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== Feebas and Magikarp ==

[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:The_dark_lord_trombonator&diff=prev&oldid=708122 Replied] on my talk page; any further discussion will be posted there. If you choose to post more there, I assume you will check it for my response and will not issue further notification. Thanks. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 02:08, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

I'm still getting used to signing and other necessities to Wiki contribution, so I apologize if I don't always remember/know things.

Secondly, I'll have to keep that in mind for future reference, as far as Pokemon-to-Pokemon comparisons. I did feel it needed to be brought up because there is not a single reference to its similarities to Magikarp in the entire article, save they have the same species type and level-up moves. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 02:14, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

==Talk Page Comments==
Please don't erase talk page comments for no reason. Trust me, you do NOT want to end up like {{u|Big Johnno}}, who got into an edit war with [[User:Fabu-Vinny|a sysop]] over comments the former had erased and was trying to keep erased. That user ended up blocked and subsequently had every erased comment restored. --[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 03:45, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Well it's my talk page, and there wasn't even a discussion taking place. It didn't seem like a big deal to delete something that had no purpose, since it was basically a private message stating to look somewhere else. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 03:53, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
:Unrelated. You leave it there no matter what. Unless it is spam, and that isn't. [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 03:49, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Well I'm just going to say that that's bullshit. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 03:53, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

:Site's rules. >_>--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 03:54, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Show me that particular rule that dictates private talk pages. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 03:56, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
:This'll do for now. {{bp|Dispute resolution}}. Also, talk to admins if you disagree. [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 04:07, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

::[[Bulbapedia:Talk page|It's here.]]--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 04:09, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
:::Good catch. Mine didn't make sense, but it was close...somewhat... [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 04:11, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Clearly I can use those rules to my benefit, since I view your comments as an attack on me. I have no idea why either of you are watching my personal talk page out of the thousands of contributors and articles on this site, nor do I feel these comments constitute as "the article itself", IE: my talk page. No, they are about the "subject of the article", IE: the comments posted on my talk page.

Because of your help in notifying me of the rules that show why I'm free to clean my talk page of this unnecessary clutter I'll be sure to delete them in due time, without further complaints. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 04:19, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
:At least use the colons (<nowiki>:</nowiki>)... [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 04:21, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
::Ok, you can archive it. Then, just link to it...don't know if it'll help. Just click move. Move to an archive. Done, the new talk page only links to archive. [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 04:24, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
:::I don't know what you mean by "use colons", though I'm sure I'll figure it out.

:::On a side note, I believe I'll leave my Talk page as is, since this was really quite fun and I wouldn't mind other people seeing me act like a douchebag. Thanks for playing it cool, both of you. :D [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 04:26, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

== Parsers... ==

It's not size...use px for the images. Otherwise, it will be too large. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 04:27, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
:What are you talking about? [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 04:36, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
::You wrote size=130. Probably not you though. Never mind. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 04:36, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
:::No, I didn't write anything... You're probably referring to my changes on either the Lugia or Ho-Oh pages, in which case I only reverted. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 04:59, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
::::That's why I said never mind... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 04:41, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::Yeah, and I just clarified that. :P [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 04:59, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

== FYI ==

Don't resign over the unsigned message. You'll put the wrong time in there. Just leave it be; forgetting is no major deal unless you do it every time. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 05:01, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
::Dude. Mind your own business. One little profile on one giant Wiki out of hundreds of equally large Wikis is no concern of yours, thanks. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 08:43, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
:::TROM is an {{bp|admin}}, as am I, so it actually is {{tt|his|and now my}} concern. Now, he's telling you this because you're not supposed to replace {{template|unsigned}} with your signature, and it would be best if you listen to his message instead of blowing it off. The time-stamp is important, so just don't replace it with your signature if you had forgotten to sign when you made the comment. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<sc>Kogoro</sc>''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<sc>Talk to me</sc>''']] - 09:10, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
::::I'm not ignorant. I know perfectly well that TROM is an admin, and I'm choosing to disregard him. Being an administrator is no excuse to micromanage. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 09:17, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::Disregarding warnings from an administrator is a great way to earn yourself blocks. I would suggest you reconsider your choice. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<sc>Kogoro</sc>''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<sc>Talk to me</sc>''']] - 09:21, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
::::::I'm not disregarding warnings from an admin, I'm ''threatening'' to disregard warnings from an admin in the future. Feel free to block me in case I do so, but for now a threat is just words. Get over it. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 09:27, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Don't worry, I'm over it. See you in a day. Take this time to have a chill pill, come back and be a constructive part of the community. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 09:34, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

== The Humans article ==

If you want to make it, go for it--even if it starts as a stub, people will add to it. And it'll be good! And interesting. -- '''[[User:evkl|evkl]]''' [[User_talk:evkl|(need to talk?)]] 01:58, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

== Since you asked ==

I like to answer. The amount of "On the forums" people keep saying is getting really annoying to me. I think that Mewtwo rumor was just a rumor, and was later proven false. However, if I'm wrong, we will know soon enough when the games come out. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 01:16, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
:Uhhh, sorry, wrong person. Forget this ever happened. =p ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 01:27, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

== Edit warring ==

Never, ever, ever, revert a revert. That's edit-warring. Even if you're right. The appropriate thing to do is turn to an admin for a ruling. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 14:09, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

:So, being an admin, what's your ruling? There are fansprites of the Nido's (at the least) [http://media.photobucket.com/image/nidogod/ForceBreaker/Nidogod.gif here], [http://img177.imageshack.us/i/nidogodsl1.png here] and [http://www.imaxenes.com/imagenes/nidogodess1fy64ko.png here], so there '''are''' fakes. --[[User:Oz|'''O''']][[User talk:Oz|'''z''']] [[Special:Contributions/Oz|(The Wizard at Work!)]] 14:14, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

::I'm in Oz's favor on this one. Other than Pikablu, they're all fake Pokémon. And ''both'' of you can consider this "strike one" on the subject of edit-warring. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 14:20, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

:::Okay, I'm willing to live with that strike. This site's bigger than me, of course. :) Also, that's two thus far, Redstar(hey, that rhymes! [[Imakuni|Maybe I should be a poet.]]). --[[User:Oz|'''O''']][[User talk:Oz|'''z''']] [[Special:Contributions/Oz|(The Wizard at Work!)]] 14:22, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

== redirecting ==

Unless the article is to be deleted, you don't need to relink these articles. It's okay to have redirects, as there is nothing wrong with them. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 21:33, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

== PokeGods ==

dont touch the page any more. if you do, i will count it as edit warring, and you will be blocked. im tired of you removing this stuff simply saying "they didnt exist" because, duh, they didnt! thats what the article is about! but, Bellossom and Ampharos were originally considered PokeGods. i cant take you back to 1997/8, but if you were into the fandom at the time, you would know. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 17:06, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
:I was into the fandom at the time, and I can tell you that neither Ampharos nor Bellossom were rumored as PokéGods. Not only that, but you remove the additions I made of other PokeGods. What's the point of having a list if you don't list the most popular ones? The page already lists several minor ones, so I just added several of the more popular ones. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 17:10, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
::the ones you listed ive never heard of. the ones Umeko listed i have. ill discuss the ones you added with some other people, but do NOT remove Amph or Bell. also, i left a message here, dont go to my page to respond. its very annoying to spread a conversation over two pages. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 17:13, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
:::Everyone responds on each other's page in that means. You should just get over it.
:::Neither Ampharos nor Bellossom were every rumored. Neither received methods for obtaining them in Red, Blue, or Yellow. They are not PokéGods. If you can find evidence to the contrary, provide a source. All you have to do is type into Google "Ampharos pokegod" or "Bellossom pokegod". We are here to provide facts, not unsourced faulty memory. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 17:21, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
::::i dont have to "get over" anything. '''you do'''. last i checked, keeping comments on one page was apart of our {{bp|Talk page}} guideline, and im one of the crew that enforces these guidelines.
::::also, i searched "Ampharos pokegod" in Google, and guess what, I GOT RESULTS! besides, you have no room to ask for sources when the last time we asked you for sources, you did not show any. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 17:30, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
:::::"Ampharos pokegod" turns up nothing, unless you mean two forums and a site updating near 2005; both examples of which are far outside the PokéGod phenomenon. So you're either lying or you didn't really look.
:::::I did provide sources. Before and after. Yoshi is a Pokémon. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 17:37, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
::::::i did look, i found plenty of sources. meanwhile, i searched all of your Pokegods and got nothing. im not arguing with you about this anymore because you dont know what youre talking about. i dont want you to touch any page even related to fake Pokemon. case closed. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 17:41, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Well, you're lying. [http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~jdonald/pokemon/factory/page3.html Here's] a page showing a sprite for Feliflame. As for Ampharos: yeah, you're still lying. There are no results for it. Maybe if you knew how to search, you'd turn up something, but, no, "Ampharos" gets nothing. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 17:52, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Are you for real?? "Ampharos Pokegod" most definitely gets results in Google. I made sure to check before I restored it to the page, after you removed it. Don't tell us it doesn't get results when they're right in front of our faces. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 17:55, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::I am "for real". Would you be so kind as to provide any of those results? Because there are none. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 17:57, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::that page you linked clearly states everything on it is made-up as "fakemon" and furthermore, its a bunch of ''horrid'' fake sprites. theres no proof there at all. and finally, if you cant find the results of "Ampharos pokegod" on Google, then you fail at Google, hard. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 18:03, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::The PokéGods page itself says that people were often misled by sprites that weren't intended to mislead. Regardless if they were originally stated to be fake or not (which the original site did not, as this is merely an archival site), many people still believed that some of them were real.

::::::::::You can keep claiming that it's my fault, but if you can't provide sources, then it shouldn't be on the page. Provide at least ''one'' rather than blame me. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 18:08, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
{{indent}}You didn't provide sources when we asked you to before, but I guess two wrongs don't make a right, and since I'm home from work now, I'll treat you to a list of PokeGod pages referencing Ampharos (or Denryu).
*[http://maxpages.com/pokemasterda/Pokedex_With_The_Pictures Last one on this page.]
*[http://www.angelfire.com/il/togepi/ Do a ctrl+F for "Denryu," unless you actually ''want'' to kill your eyes reading this site.]
*[http://www.freewebs.com/the_pokegods/morepokegodinfo.htm Included on the list here.]
There's more, but you asked only for one, so this should already be more than enough. But here's a little bonus, on that site you linked before... [http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~jdonald/pokemon/factory/page5.html ohay, now what is that last one on the page here??] [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]]
:Smart girl. You actually thought to search for its Japanese name. However, I'll point out why none of these sites are valid examples.
#Yes, "Denryu" is mentioned, but Denryu itself was never rumored in the form of a code. You'll note that Denryu is mentioned on many sites, the majority of which were actually documenting the release of Gold and Silver. Just because some people stuck to old habits and used the term "PokéGod" doesn't mean that's what they necessarily meant.
#One of the latter-day lists which includes several Pokemon (note, ''Pokémon'', not PokéGods) created by the Pokemon Factory. (See number 4)
#A site last updated near 2005, over five years ''after'' the PokéGod phenomenon. Latter-day references don't count.
#The Pokémon Factory specialized in making fake Pokémon, ''not'' PokéGods. They never intended to fool anyone, and in fact made it a part of their mission statement then and now that they were for fun or gags.

As you can see, none of those sites are valid references. You're welcome to provide more if you like, but you obviously don't understand the mentality or zeitgeist of the time to properly speak for it. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 04:02, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
::'''''You referenced Pokemon Factory for Feliflame.''''' Please explain explain to my why your hypocrisy is valid. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 04:09, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
:::It's not hypocrisy. It's a test. And MAGNEDETH failed. So did you. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 04:11, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
::::how the hell did i fail? Ume has all the details right there, you just said two different things, opposite of each other! (granted, this isnt the first time). -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 04:17, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
:::::I never said anything hypocritical or opposite of myself. Umeko has provided no details, at least nothing of valid reference. And you failed by showing your prejudice. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 04:20, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
::::::at '''16:27 UTC''' yesterday, you added '''Feliflame''' to [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pok%C3%A9Gods&diff=prev&oldid=988533 the PokeGods page].
::::::at '''17:52 UTC''' yesterday, you referenced Pokemon Factory for '''Feliflame''' using it as proof that it is a PokeGod.
::::::at '''04:02 UTC''' today you said '''AND I QUOTE''':
:::::::"The Pokémon Factory specialized in making fake Pokémon, ''not'' PokéGods. They never intended to fool anyone, and in fact made it a part of their mission statement then and now that they were for fun or gags."
::::::so, i want to know right now, if that isnt hypocrisy, what is it? because it really really looks like hypocrisy. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 04:31, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
:::::::First of all, I'd like to know why any of you are bothering with this? Do you ''love'' your sysop-positions so much that you have to micro-manage and argue? This whole discussion, let alone me, is not a big deal.

:::::::Second of all, if you were paying attention you would have read where I said that that was a test. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 04:34, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

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== Feebas and Magikarp ==

[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:The_dark_lord_trombonator&diff=prev&oldid=708122 Replied] on my talk page; any further discussion will be posted there. If you choose to post more there, I assume you will check it for my response and will not issue further notification. Thanks. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 02:08, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

I'm still getting used to signing and other necessities to Wiki contribution, so I apologize if I don't always remember/know things.

Secondly, I'll have to keep that in mind for future reference, as far as Pokemon-to-Pokemon comparisons. I did feel it needed to be brought up because there is not a single reference to its similarities to Magikarp in the entire article, save they have the same species type and level-up moves. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 02:14, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

==Talk Page Comments==
Please don't erase talk page comments for no reason. Trust me, you do NOT want to end up like {{u|Big Johnno}}, who got into an edit war with [[User:Fabu-Vinny|a sysop]] over comments the former had erased and was trying to keep erased. That user ended up blocked and subsequently had every erased comment restored. --[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 03:45, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Well it's my talk page, and there wasn't even a discussion taking place. It didn't seem like a big deal to delete something that had no purpose, since it was basically a private message stating to look somewhere else. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 03:53, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
:Unrelated. You leave it there no matter what. Unless it is spam, and that isn't. [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 03:49, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Well I'm just going to say that that's bullshit. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 03:53, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

:Site's rules. >_>--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 03:54, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Show me that particular rule that dictates private talk pages. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 03:56, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
:This'll do for now. {{bp|Dispute resolution}}. Also, talk to admins if you disagree. [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 04:07, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

::[[Bulbapedia:Talk page|It's here.]]--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 04:09, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
:::Good catch. Mine didn't make sense, but it was close...somewhat... [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 04:11, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Clearly I can use those rules to my benefit, since I view your comments as an attack on me. I have no idea why either of you are watching my personal talk page out of the thousands of contributors and articles on this site, nor do I feel these comments constitute as "the article itself", IE: my talk page. No, they are about the "subject of the article", IE: the comments posted on my talk page.

Because of your help in notifying me of the rules that show why I'm free to clean my talk page of this unnecessary clutter I'll be sure to delete them in due time, without further complaints. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 04:19, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
:At least use the colons (<nowiki>:</nowiki>)... [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 04:21, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
::Ok, you can archive it. Then, just link to it...don't know if it'll help. Just click move. Move to an archive. Done, the new talk page only links to archive. [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 04:24, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
:::I don't know what you mean by "use colons", though I'm sure I'll figure it out.

:::On a side note, I believe I'll leave my Talk page as is, since this was really quite fun and I wouldn't mind other people seeing me act like a douchebag. Thanks for playing it cool, both of you. :D [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 04:26, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

== Parsers... ==

It's not size...use px for the images. Otherwise, it will be too large. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 04:27, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
:What are you talking about? [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 04:36, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
::You wrote size=130. Probably not you though. Never mind. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 04:36, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
:::No, I didn't write anything... You're probably referring to my changes on either the Lugia or Ho-Oh pages, in which case I only reverted. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 04:59, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
::::That's why I said never mind... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 04:41, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::Yeah, and I just clarified that. :P [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 04:59, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

== FYI ==

Don't resign over the unsigned message. You'll put the wrong time in there. Just leave it be; forgetting is no major deal unless you do it every time. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 05:01, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
::Dude. Mind your own business. One little profile on one giant Wiki out of hundreds of equally large Wikis is no concern of yours, thanks. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 08:43, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
:::TROM is an {{bp|admin}}, as am I, so it actually is {{tt|his|and now my}} concern. Now, he's telling you this because you're not supposed to replace {{template|unsigned}} with your signature, and it would be best if you listen to his message instead of blowing it off. The time-stamp is important, so just don't replace it with your signature if you had forgotten to sign when you made the comment. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<sc>Kogoro</sc>''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<sc>Talk to me</sc>''']] - 09:10, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
::::I'm not ignorant. I know perfectly well that TROM is an admin, and I'm choosing to disregard him. Being an administrator is no excuse to micromanage. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 09:17, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::Disregarding warnings from an administrator is a great way to earn yourself blocks. I would suggest you reconsider your choice. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<sc>Kogoro</sc>''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<sc>Talk to me</sc>''']] - 09:21, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
::::::I'm not disregarding warnings from an admin, I'm ''threatening'' to disregard warnings from an admin in the future. Feel free to block me in case I do so, but for now a threat is just words. Get over it. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 09:27, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Don't worry, I'm over it. See you in a day. Take this time to have a chill pill, come back and be a constructive part of the community. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 09:34, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

== The Humans article ==

If you want to make it, go for it--even if it starts as a stub, people will add to it. And it'll be good! And interesting. -- '''[[User:evkl|evkl]]''' [[User_talk:evkl|(need to talk?)]] 01:58, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

== Since you asked ==

I like to answer. The amount of "On the forums" people keep saying is getting really annoying to me. I think that Mewtwo rumor was just a rumor, and was later proven false. However, if I'm wrong, we will know soon enough when the games come out. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 01:16, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
:Uhhh, sorry, wrong person. Forget this ever happened. =p ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 01:27, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

== Edit warring ==

Never, ever, ever, revert a revert. That's edit-warring. Even if you're right. The appropriate thing to do is turn to an admin for a ruling. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 14:09, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

:So, being an admin, what's your ruling? There are fansprites of the Nido's (at the least) [http://media.photobucket.com/image/nidogod/ForceBreaker/Nidogod.gif here], [http://img177.imageshack.us/i/nidogodsl1.png here] and [http://www.imaxenes.com/imagenes/nidogodess1fy64ko.png here], so there '''are''' fakes. --[[User:Oz|'''O''']][[User talk:Oz|'''z''']] [[Special:Contributions/Oz|(The Wizard at Work!)]] 14:14, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

::I'm in Oz's favor on this one. Other than Pikablu, they're all fake Pokémon. And ''both'' of you can consider this "strike one" on the subject of edit-warring. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 14:20, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

:::Okay, I'm willing to live with that strike. This site's bigger than me, of course. :) Also, that's two thus far, Redstar(hey, that rhymes! [[Imakuni|Maybe I should be a poet.]]). --[[User:Oz|'''O''']][[User talk:Oz|'''z''']] [[Special:Contributions/Oz|(The Wizard at Work!)]] 14:22, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

== redirecting ==

Unless the article is to be deleted, you don't need to relink these articles. It's okay to have redirects, as there is nothing wrong with them. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 21:33, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

== PokeGods ==

dont touch the page any more. if you do, i will count it as edit warring, and you will be blocked. im tired of you removing this stuff simply saying "they didnt exist" because, duh, they didnt! thats what the article is about! but, Bellossom and Ampharos were originally considered PokeGods. i cant take you back to 1997/8, but if you were into the fandom at the time, you would know. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 17:06, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
:I was into the fandom at the time, and I can tell you that neither Ampharos nor Bellossom were rumored as PokéGods. Not only that, but you remove the additions I made of other PokeGods. What's the point of having a list if you don't list the most popular ones? The page already lists several minor ones, so I just added several of the more popular ones. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 17:10, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
::the ones you listed ive never heard of. the ones Umeko listed i have. ill discuss the ones you added with some other people, but do NOT remove Amph or Bell. also, i left a message here, dont go to my page to respond. its very annoying to spread a conversation over two pages. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 17:13, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
:::Everyone responds on each other's page in that means. You should just get over it.
:::Neither Ampharos nor Bellossom were every rumored. Neither received methods for obtaining them in Red, Blue, or Yellow. They are not PokéGods. If you can find evidence to the contrary, provide a source. All you have to do is type into Google "Ampharos pokegod" or "Bellossom pokegod". We are here to provide facts, not unsourced faulty memory. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 17:21, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
::::i dont have to "get over" anything. '''you do'''. last i checked, keeping comments on one page was apart of our {{bp|Talk page}} guideline, and im one of the crew that enforces these guidelines.
::::also, i searched "Ampharos pokegod" in Google, and guess what, I GOT RESULTS! besides, you have no room to ask for sources when the last time we asked you for sources, you did not show any. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 17:30, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
:::::"Ampharos pokegod" turns up nothing, unless you mean two forums and a site updating near 2005; both examples of which are far outside the PokéGod phenomenon. So you're either lying or you didn't really look.
:::::I did provide sources. Before and after. Yoshi is a Pokémon. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 17:37, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
::::::i did look, i found plenty of sources. meanwhile, i searched all of your Pokegods and got nothing. im not arguing with you about this anymore because you dont know what youre talking about. i dont want you to touch any page even related to fake Pokemon. case closed. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 17:41, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Well, you're lying. [http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~jdonald/pokemon/factory/page3.html Here's] a page showing a sprite for Feliflame. As for Ampharos: yeah, you're still lying. There are no results for it. Maybe if you knew how to search, you'd turn up something, but, no, "Ampharos" gets nothing. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 17:52, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Are you for real?? "Ampharos Pokegod" most definitely gets results in Google. I made sure to check before I restored it to the page, after you removed it. Don't tell us it doesn't get results when they're right in front of our faces. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 17:55, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::I am "for real". Would you be so kind as to provide any of those results? Because there are none. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 17:57, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::that page you linked clearly states everything on it is made-up as "fakemon" and furthermore, its a bunch of ''horrid'' fake sprites. theres no proof there at all. and finally, if you cant find the results of "Ampharos pokegod" on Google, then you fail at Google, hard. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 18:03, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::The PokéGods page itself says that people were often misled by sprites that weren't intended to mislead. Regardless if they were originally stated to be fake or not (which the original site did not, as this is merely an archival site), many people still believed that some of them were real.

::::::::::You can keep claiming that it's my fault, but if you can't provide sources, then it shouldn't be on the page. Provide at least ''one'' rather than blame me. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 18:08, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
{{indent}}You didn't provide sources when we asked you to before, but I guess two wrongs don't make a right, and since I'm home from work now, I'll treat you to a list of PokeGod pages referencing Ampharos (or Denryu).
*[http://maxpages.com/pokemasterda/Pokedex_With_The_Pictures Last one on this page.]
*[http://www.angelfire.com/il/togepi/ Do a ctrl+F for "Denryu," unless you actually ''want'' to kill your eyes reading this site.]
*[http://www.freewebs.com/the_pokegods/morepokegodinfo.htm Included on the list here.]
There's more, but you asked only for one, so this should already be more than enough. But here's a little bonus, on that site you linked before... [http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~jdonald/pokemon/factory/page5.html ohay, now what is that last one on the page here??] [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]]
Smart girl. You actually thought to search for its Japanese name. However, I'll point out why none of these sites are valid examples.
#Yes, "Denryu" is mentioned, but Denryu itself was never rumored in the form of a code. You'll note that Denryu is mentioned on many sites, the majority of which were actually documenting the release of Gold and Silver. Just because some people stuck to old habits and used the term "PokéGod" doesn't mean that's what they necessarily meant.
#One of the latter-day lists which includes several Pokemon (note, ''Pokémon'', not PokéGods) created by the Pokemon Factory. (See number 4)
#A site last updated near 2005, over five years ''after'' the PokéGod phenomenon. Latter-day references don't count.
#The Pokémon Factory specialized in making fake Pokémon, ''not'' PokéGods. They never intended to fool anyone, and in fact made it a part of their mission statement then and now that they were for fun or gags.

As you can see, none of those sites are valid references. Try again, if you so choose. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 04:02, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

User talk:Zesty Cactus/Archive 2

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* [[User talk:Zesty Cactus/Archive 1|Archive 1]]: June 2008-November 2009

== Gen1king ==

Hey, hope you don't mind, but I removed the comment you just left. Deth had removed his priveleges just before you left the message. [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Porygon-''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''Z''']] 06:26, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
:I know, I just undid the revision myself anyways. ^^' thanks for letting me know. [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 06:27, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
::Before the edit conflict: Well, turns out you reverted it before mine went through, thus making me look like an idiot now. HAPPY!? (Haha, just kidding) :P [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Porygon-''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''Z''']] 06:28, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
:::YES I'M THRILLED >:D haha jokes, no worries man. [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 06:29, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

== Congratulations! ==

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'''Congratulations!''' For your outstanding service to [[Bulbapedia|{{color|000|Bulbapedia}}]] in pages regarding the [[Pokémon manga|{{color|000|Pokémon manga}}]] you have been awarded the [[Bulbapedia:Golden Poliwhirl Award|{{color|000|Golden Poliwhirl Award}}]] for October, 2009 by the [[Bulbapedia:Editorial board|{{color|000|Bulbapedia editorial board}}]]!

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Congratulations! -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 21:23, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

:Congrats, Zesty Cactus! You deserved it!--[[User:GreenGyarados|♫Green]][[Gyarados (Pokémon)|♫ギャラドス♫]][[User Talk:GreenGyarados|Talk♫]] 21:28, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
::Congratulations! '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 21:35, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
:::Congratulations and keep up the good work in the manga area. --[[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''☆''']][[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチュウ!''']] 22:07, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
::::You deserve it! [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 22:08, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::Holy crap thanks guys! :') [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 23:46, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

== re: Talk Pages topic on MonkeyJB 1988's user talk page ==

Sorry about that. I realized I forgot and just changed it. I'll remember your tip next time. Again, sorry. [[User:Monkeyjb1988|Monkeyjb1988]] 13:15, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

== The Kris lookalike ==

You added this trivia about a Kris lookalike. Could you show me a pic? MB and I are confused. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 01:12, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
:Sorry to barge in, it needs to be more specific.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 01:14, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
::[[File:S2 Heroine.png]] When you use a Crystal file in Stadium 2 and you're playing as Kris this girl appears instead of the generic boy. [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 05:03, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
:::In retrospect it's more of a female Red lookalike than Kris, but she only appears when you play as Kris [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 05:03, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
::::Well, I just found out, there is a pic of Kris in the credits. We are trying to find out a way to get it.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 05:04, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

== Could you do me a favor? ==

If possible could I get my username changed to <code>Lugia</code>, I am pretty sure that it is available. Thanks, i don't kniw how to change it myself... '''''-'''''[[User:LugiaRocks|'''LūgīāRōcks''']] ([[User talk:LugiaRocks|''Tālk'']] δ [[Special:Contributions/LugiaRocks|''Ēdīts'']]) 04:26, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
:If you want your username changed you'll have to take it to {{u|TTEchidna}}. It doesn't look like User:Lugia is in use, though, so you should be able to make the switch. Good luck! :) [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 04:28, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
Thanks :) '''''-'''''[[User:LugiaRocks|'''LūgīāRōcks''']] ([[User talk:LugiaRocks|''Tālk'']] δ [[Special:Contributions/LugiaRocks|''Ēdīts'']]) 04:41, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

== Changes ==

Hello, long time no talk. You were right [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pok%C3%A9mon_in_Latin_America&diff=952208&oldid=950707 to correct all these flaws], but it is my fault for not knowing English, why should I use a Google translator to do these things. This is one of many reasons that I had to complain and be opposed by the addition of a [[Pokéteca|wiki]], who claims to be "in Spanish" when it is actually a wiki "of spaniards or people in Spain". One thing to say
that something is "in Spanish" simply say the word adjective "Spanish". The people of Spain believes that is the only country in the world where people speak Spanish. Please, the fact that in Latin America Pokémon games come in English, not mean that we speak in English. Necessarily we need support "in Spanish" and not support "Spaniard". When something is said in Spanish it is for example: What does [[Close Combat]] "in Spanish"? means "Combate Cerrado" and not "A Bocajarro". You understand what I'm saying? I think I finally got out of the topic. As I said, OK you've done that, but there are things you should not have deleted or omitted information such as, on information from Irwin Dayaan, has doubled Pegasus Seiya in Saint Seiya "only" in the dubbing of Saint Seiya: Hades - Chapter Sanctuary and Hades - Chapter Inferno for the dubbed version for TV, You, having left simply as "Pegasus Seiya in Saint Seiya", are giving evidence that the Seiya's voice has done all series when that is not true or correct. What happens to Saint Seiya: Hades - Chapter Sanctuary, Saint Seiya: Hades - Chapter Inferno in Latin America, is that there are two versions dubbed in Spanish, a version that is exclusive to DVD, and another exclusive for TV, and folded each version has a different voice cast, since in the DVD versions are the original cast of voices while the dubbed version for TV there is another cast of voices other than the original. Other things have also removed when all that is true. In summary, it would not take this wrong but "There are people from the same town you do not know what is done in the same medium" You know?, I might not put the text as modified is very wrong but as I said before, I do not speak the English language, I speak Spanish and I'm from Latin America, a very large region where there are most people who speak the Spanish language worldwide. --[[User:Toonamimaniacolatino|Toonami]][http://wiki.pkstadium.com/Usuario:Toonamimaniacolatino maniacolatino] 16:38, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

:OK. Thank you very much to understand everything I said above and correct and amend all such errors the article. If anything I have with this article, I'm considering working with to do a feature article and besides all that show that in Latin America, Pokemon is very dear and above "respected" in this great region hispanic speaking. What you think? --[[User:Toonamimaniacolatino|Toonami]][http://wiki.pkstadium.com/Usuario:Toonamimaniacolatino maniacolatino] 03:18, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
::Class would be a great honor. The merchandise of Pokemon in Latin America, was something that I also had in mind, especially the issue of Tazoz, since this was a product of Pokemon that they had more momentum in countries like Ecuador during the golden age (2000-2001). If Pokemon merchandise in Latin America is, there are things worth mentioning since there are always interesting things to come as the TCG in fast food locals of Burger King. In fact 4 months ago (in August and September to be exact) the most recent Pokemon at Burger King was a promotion of Pokemon Platinum TCG. --[[User:Toonamimaniacolatino|Toonami]][http://wiki.pkstadium.com/Usuario:Toonamimaniacolatino maniacolatino] 03:06, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
::The Burger King and the Tazos are definitely worth mentioning. Do you know how many times Burger King has brought Pokémon promotions to Latin America? I remember my friend told me that she couldn't get the first set of toys in 1999 because they weren't available in Mexico (where she lives). Also, I was wondering if there were any Spanish Pokémon comic books? Do you know? Thanks for all your help :D [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 05:01, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
:::There have been some Pokemon promotions at Burger King, in most of them were on TCG. In general, most of the Pokémon merchandise is currently made in order to Mexico. For Pokémon Manga unfortunately not been a publisher who is engaged in translating and distributing unlike Naruto, Bleach and others. Now that I remember, in January 2010, Pokémon will be re-debut in another cable television channel which is also operated by TBS (Turner Broadcasting System) and owned by Time Warner. The channel is called {{wp|Tooncast}} (brother of Cartoon Network and Boomerang Latin America) and is a channel that function the same that Boomerang in USA. (If you wonder that Pokémon premieres in Tooncast instead of Boomerang, what you say) The problem with Boomerang Latin America, is that since 2006, the channel changed its policy of classic series and other contemporary productions targeted for teen (something like the block CN REAL in USA). Sure Pokemon on Cartoon Network Latin America will continue and indeed confirm that Galactic Battles will be released January. 10. Indeed, this may not believe me and this is something I forget to include in the information of Gabriel Ramos. Ramos himself in an anime event held in a school in the city of Buenos Aires, Argentina; confirmed that Galactic Battles, have a total of 54 episodes (therefore, will be the same amount of episodes that have in the USA) In case you want to check, I pass this [http://pokemon-project.com/index.php?c=comentar&modo=ver&nid=333 link] (this in Spanish, even there are also videos of Gabriel talking) --[[User:Toonamimaniacolatino|Toonami]][http://wiki.pkstadium.com/Usuario:Toonamimaniacolatino maniacolatino] 22:50, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
::::Well actually I think there was a small mistake at the time you added informaicion of Pokémon in Tooncast. luckily I corrected and got some references to be precise. Finally. regarding Tooncast coverage in Latin America, the channel is new (in fact 2 months ago has just celebrated its first-anniversary) but the channel is for the whole region including Brazil (clear signal that there is exclusive to that country because it is in Portuguese). The drawback with Tooncast is that, as a new channel is not well known even by people, not available in some cable operators in most countries of Latin America and may thereby obtain only in exclusive packages of channels and not on basic packages. Well, I'll looking more and more information to keep adding to the article. Indeed, in the Wiki "in Spanish" where I am (which is linked in my signature) had created [http://wiki.pkstadium.com/Cartoon_Network_Latinoam%C3%A9rica an article] on Cartoon Network Latin America and its history with Pokémon. There are several things there and it was thought that if you would be bringing some data in there and make the article a section exclusively for Cartoon Network. If you look at the article (although this in Spanish) and then tell me your opinion --[[User:Toonamimaniacolatino|Toonami]][http://wiki.pkstadium.com/Usuario:Toonamimaniacolatino maniacolatino] 15:33, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
:::::That's right, there Tooncast for all countries of Latin America who speak Spanish and another that is unique to Brazil. Ok, no problem, take your time reviewing the article. --[[User:Toonamimaniacolatino|Toonami]][http://wiki.pkstadium.com/Usuario:Toonamimaniacolatino maniacolatino] 02:04, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
::::::Hi, wanted to know how you go with the translation of the article and that you think. Likewise also want to ask which we should put in the [[Pokémon in Latin America|article]], ie add other sections. --[[User:Toonamimaniacolatino|Toonami]][http://wiki.pkstadium.com/Usuario:Toonamimaniacolatino maniacolatino] 17:41, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Well I think I'll see as I do the section on Cartoon Network in article but I must say you're right on some points. Also on the schedule, I think it would be somewhat tedious because although Cartoon Network covers throughout Latin America in Spanish, the signals of Cartoon Network to Mexico, Cartoon Network to Argentina and Cartoon Network to the rest of Latin America tend to be different is, its programming may be the same but the schedules are others except when it comes to premieres. Well, I wanted to ask what else should go in the article. Think you should have something like Fandom? ie things like fan sites that originate in Latin America or what? what else do you think should be added. --[[User:Toonamimaniacolatino|Toonami]][http://wiki.pkstadium.com/Usuario:Toonamimaniacolatino maniacolatino] 01:38, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

==To do list==
I was going around, fixing up stuff linking to Chiisai-u instead of ゥ, and found your [[User:Zesty Cactus/To-do list|To do list]]. It uses Chiisai-u instead of ゥ and many glitch-related tasks have already been completed. Do what you want with it, I'm just letting you know. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|Snorlax]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|Monster]] 03:00, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
:Yeah I know I haven't updated it since like August :P I guess I should probably clear that off... [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 03:02, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

==Not quite stubs, but something is lacking...==

I have discussed this question earlier on Turtwig A's talkpage, and they have come to the conclusion that the question is best reserved for an administrator (such as yourself, Zesty Cactus--you in particular because it seems that you have an unfailing penchant for giving articles cover pictures)
Would it be logical to create a template--like the template used to classify articles for being stubs--that designates book articles as needing pictures of their covers (or otherwise stating that the article 'is lacking important pictures'?) Several books appear to lack pictures of their covers, most notably the book Battle for the Zephyr Badge. Along this, should location stubs possess a similar 'this article needs pictures', to provide a picture of the area described? For example, the article for Sayda Island does not have a picture.[[User:Steph|Steph]] 18:45, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
:Um... Zesty isn't as admin... [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 18:47, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
::Sorry...I was under the impression that Zesty Cactus was an administrator--or otherwise, as aforementioned she does have an unfailing penchant for putting cover pictures into articles. Still, that would not make her an admin. Sorry for any inconvenience I may have caused you, Zesty Cactus. So, if not Zesty Cactus...who would you advise that I discuss the matter of my proposed 'this article is lacking important pictures' template? [[User:Steph|Steph]] 19:03, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
:::Well, still, Zesty is a very good user, she can help. Also, I myself agree for the creation of such a template. It may be a good idea {{ut|TTEchidna|here}} to ask, or [[Bulbapedia talk:Project Merchandise/Books to-do list|here in the case of the books]]. In the meantime, it would be a good idea to create the template at User:Steph/(template name). [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 19:41, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
::::Not a bad idea, although I don't know how used it will be. I guess Pokémon Adventures has a "this round needs a picture" template... although I could just go through all the books myself and add missing covers. D; Are a lot of books missing covers or just a few random ones? [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 20:41, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
:::::I don't think PS rounds have a missing image ''template'' per say. I can make the infobox work to show us which ones need an image through a category, if you so please. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 20:49, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
::::::That's probably a better idea. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 20:51, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
::::::(got conflicted) I think that's more or less what she/I had in mind, so I guess you or someone could just set up the infobox to do that? Please? I would, but I don't know how. :P [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 20:52, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
:::::::There are NOT 50. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 22:26, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Dah... those all have covers? o_O I think you got it reversed XD [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 22:28, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
:::::(Inclined to the left as not for the text to make a scroll bar appear at the bottom) Excellent, Zesty Cactus! Truly, you are an awesome contributor to the images of Project Merchandise! Maybe Project Merchandise will acquire some recognition someday....I shall now resume my work on adding Merchandise details. Also, is there any way I can help with correcting those erroneously listed and adding the proper books to the list? [[User:Steph|Steph]] 22:38, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
(resetting indent) I looked at the coding for the infobox and I don't know why it's screwing up... I mean, you can look at it too, but it's probably easier to just wait for someone who's better at wikicode to fix it. :P I guess just keep working at the articles for now. That Battle for the Zephyr Badge page could use some help? [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 22:43, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
:There are two: [[Pokémon Pop Quiz 3: Brain Busters]] and [[The Rise of Darkrai (book)]]. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 23:24, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

== Re:Tooncast ==

Hello, firstly happy new year!} and second, well I think with what you did [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pok%C3%A9mon_in_Latin_America&diff=976798&oldid=967721 here] is enough, after all, Tooncast is for all Latin America. --[[User:Toonamimaniacolatino|Toonami]][http://wiki.pkstadium.com/Usuario:Toonamimaniacolatino maniacolatino] 15:29, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

== Re:Hey*Can you respond to my questions soon?* ==

What you said"Thanks for the help with the 9th Summit Pass article, but in the future, please try not to use the term "you" in encyclopedic articles. I know it can be kind of difficult to convert instructions to something completely third-person but it's a rule D; thanks!" --ZestyCactus 02:00, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

'What I said back" Opps, I forgot about that. Did you fix it or should I go do that right now?
Also, I was thinking about adding pages for the Stations in between the Station Passes. What do you think?

Also, I have the game with me right here, so I was counting floors. But right now I'm finding the Pokémon in each pass. I up to the 3rd Station Pass so far. Want me to type in what I have so far, you know, in one of those little Pokémon graphs that have the floor and lv and other stuff? I can do that if you think I should.

Also (I'm using that too much), I'm going to keep adding the stations and pass areas so people can add info to the pages too, and make it better.

I can't believe I'm adding pages to Bulbapedia!Woot!"--[[User:Spotman234|Spotman234]] 02:11, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

''What i'm saying now"ANSWER MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!! Thank you.--[[User:Spotman234|Spotman234]] 03:36, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
:I fixed up the 9th Summit Pass for you, don't worry about it. As for the Station Passes, quite frankly I don't know enough about the Mystery Dungeon games to give you my own opinion or even an educated guess. You could always ask one of our {{bp|administrators}} what they think :) --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 03:41, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

==Topps "Pikablu" Cards==
You really own the Topps cards that identify Marill as "Pikablu"? {{unsigned|Redstar}}
:Sure do. Did you want to see a scan or something? --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 00:25, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
::Definitely. I've been trying to find a copy of them for reference-purposes. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 00:43, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
:::[http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/zeldascousin/scan0036.jpg Ta-da!] I love how they make a point of calling him "Pikablu" like, five times. --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 01:01, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
::::Thank you very much! Would you mind me using the scan for the page I'm working on, and, if so, would you like credit of any kind? [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 01:05, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
:::::No problem! You can use it on your page for sure, and I don't really care if I get any credit or not, it's just a trading card. :P (though, I'd be interested in seeing the page when you're done) --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 01:08, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
::::::Well, it's only fair to credit you since it was difficult trying to get information on the card. How should we credit you? Funny how you just gave an off-hand reference and that was it.

::::::The page is already up, though we've been updating and expanding it almost daily the last couple of weeks. You're welcome to see it now, but maybe you'd rather wait until we can expand for this new reference? [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 01:10, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
:::::::The card took me like 5 seconds to find and another 5 to scan, it's no big deal haha! (if you insist, just "Zesty Cactus" is cool) And it's up to you, just link me whenever. --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 01:15, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
::::::::I'll let you know... Are there any more references? I was recently told that card 52 says "meanwhile Pikablu, Buru, Seubone and Raichu watch and laugh". We could really use any and all. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 01:20, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

User talk:Zesty Cactus/Archive 2

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* [[User talk:Zesty Cactus/Archive 1|Archive 1]]: June 2008-November 2009

== Gen1king ==

Hey, hope you don't mind, but I removed the comment you just left. Deth had removed his priveleges just before you left the message. [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Porygon-''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''Z''']] 06:26, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
:I know, I just undid the revision myself anyways. ^^' thanks for letting me know. [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 06:27, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
::Before the edit conflict: Well, turns out you reverted it before mine went through, thus making me look like an idiot now. HAPPY!? (Haha, just kidding) :P [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Porygon-''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''Z''']] 06:28, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
:::YES I'M THRILLED >:D haha jokes, no worries man. [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 06:29, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

== Congratulations! ==

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Congratulations! -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 21:23, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

:Congrats, Zesty Cactus! You deserved it!--[[User:GreenGyarados|♫Green]][[Gyarados (Pokémon)|♫ギャラドス♫]][[User Talk:GreenGyarados|Talk♫]] 21:28, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
::Congratulations! '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 21:35, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
:::Congratulations and keep up the good work in the manga area. --[[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''☆''']][[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチュウ!''']] 22:07, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
::::You deserve it! [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 22:08, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::Holy crap thanks guys! :') [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 23:46, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

== re: Talk Pages topic on MonkeyJB 1988's user talk page ==

Sorry about that. I realized I forgot and just changed it. I'll remember your tip next time. Again, sorry. [[User:Monkeyjb1988|Monkeyjb1988]] 13:15, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

== The Kris lookalike ==

You added this trivia about a Kris lookalike. Could you show me a pic? MB and I are confused. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 01:12, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
:Sorry to barge in, it needs to be more specific.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 01:14, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
::[[File:S2 Heroine.png]] When you use a Crystal file in Stadium 2 and you're playing as Kris this girl appears instead of the generic boy. [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 05:03, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
:::In retrospect it's more of a female Red lookalike than Kris, but she only appears when you play as Kris [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 05:03, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
::::Well, I just found out, there is a pic of Kris in the credits. We are trying to find out a way to get it.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 05:04, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

== Could you do me a favor? ==

If possible could I get my username changed to <code>Lugia</code>, I am pretty sure that it is available. Thanks, i don't kniw how to change it myself... '''''-'''''[[User:LugiaRocks|'''LūgīāRōcks''']] ([[User talk:LugiaRocks|''Tālk'']] δ [[Special:Contributions/LugiaRocks|''Ēdīts'']]) 04:26, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
:If you want your username changed you'll have to take it to {{u|TTEchidna}}. It doesn't look like User:Lugia is in use, though, so you should be able to make the switch. Good luck! :) [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 04:28, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
Thanks :) '''''-'''''[[User:LugiaRocks|'''LūgīāRōcks''']] ([[User talk:LugiaRocks|''Tālk'']] δ [[Special:Contributions/LugiaRocks|''Ēdīts'']]) 04:41, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

== Changes ==

Hello, long time no talk. You were right [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pok%C3%A9mon_in_Latin_America&diff=952208&oldid=950707 to correct all these flaws], but it is my fault for not knowing English, why should I use a Google translator to do these things. This is one of many reasons that I had to complain and be opposed by the addition of a [[Pokéteca|wiki]], who claims to be "in Spanish" when it is actually a wiki "of spaniards or people in Spain". One thing to say
that something is "in Spanish" simply say the word adjective "Spanish". The people of Spain believes that is the only country in the world where people speak Spanish. Please, the fact that in Latin America Pokémon games come in English, not mean that we speak in English. Necessarily we need support "in Spanish" and not support "Spaniard". When something is said in Spanish it is for example: What does [[Close Combat]] "in Spanish"? means "Combate Cerrado" and not "A Bocajarro". You understand what I'm saying? I think I finally got out of the topic. As I said, OK you've done that, but there are things you should not have deleted or omitted information such as, on information from Irwin Dayaan, has doubled Pegasus Seiya in Saint Seiya "only" in the dubbing of Saint Seiya: Hades - Chapter Sanctuary and Hades - Chapter Inferno for the dubbed version for TV, You, having left simply as "Pegasus Seiya in Saint Seiya", are giving evidence that the Seiya's voice has done all series when that is not true or correct. What happens to Saint Seiya: Hades - Chapter Sanctuary, Saint Seiya: Hades - Chapter Inferno in Latin America, is that there are two versions dubbed in Spanish, a version that is exclusive to DVD, and another exclusive for TV, and folded each version has a different voice cast, since in the DVD versions are the original cast of voices while the dubbed version for TV there is another cast of voices other than the original. Other things have also removed when all that is true. In summary, it would not take this wrong but "There are people from the same town you do not know what is done in the same medium" You know?, I might not put the text as modified is very wrong but as I said before, I do not speak the English language, I speak Spanish and I'm from Latin America, a very large region where there are most people who speak the Spanish language worldwide. --[[User:Toonamimaniacolatino|Toonami]][http://wiki.pkstadium.com/Usuario:Toonamimaniacolatino maniacolatino] 16:38, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

:OK. Thank you very much to understand everything I said above and correct and amend all such errors the article. If anything I have with this article, I'm considering working with to do a feature article and besides all that show that in Latin America, Pokemon is very dear and above "respected" in this great region hispanic speaking. What you think? --[[User:Toonamimaniacolatino|Toonami]][http://wiki.pkstadium.com/Usuario:Toonamimaniacolatino maniacolatino] 03:18, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
::Class would be a great honor. The merchandise of Pokemon in Latin America, was something that I also had in mind, especially the issue of Tazoz, since this was a product of Pokemon that they had more momentum in countries like Ecuador during the golden age (2000-2001). If Pokemon merchandise in Latin America is, there are things worth mentioning since there are always interesting things to come as the TCG in fast food locals of Burger King. In fact 4 months ago (in August and September to be exact) the most recent Pokemon at Burger King was a promotion of Pokemon Platinum TCG. --[[User:Toonamimaniacolatino|Toonami]][http://wiki.pkstadium.com/Usuario:Toonamimaniacolatino maniacolatino] 03:06, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
::The Burger King and the Tazos are definitely worth mentioning. Do you know how many times Burger King has brought Pokémon promotions to Latin America? I remember my friend told me that she couldn't get the first set of toys in 1999 because they weren't available in Mexico (where she lives). Also, I was wondering if there were any Spanish Pokémon comic books? Do you know? Thanks for all your help :D [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 05:01, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
:::There have been some Pokemon promotions at Burger King, in most of them were on TCG. In general, most of the Pokémon merchandise is currently made in order to Mexico. For Pokémon Manga unfortunately not been a publisher who is engaged in translating and distributing unlike Naruto, Bleach and others. Now that I remember, in January 2010, Pokémon will be re-debut in another cable television channel which is also operated by TBS (Turner Broadcasting System) and owned by Time Warner. The channel is called {{wp|Tooncast}} (brother of Cartoon Network and Boomerang Latin America) and is a channel that function the same that Boomerang in USA. (If you wonder that Pokémon premieres in Tooncast instead of Boomerang, what you say) The problem with Boomerang Latin America, is that since 2006, the channel changed its policy of classic series and other contemporary productions targeted for teen (something like the block CN REAL in USA). Sure Pokemon on Cartoon Network Latin America will continue and indeed confirm that Galactic Battles will be released January. 10. Indeed, this may not believe me and this is something I forget to include in the information of Gabriel Ramos. Ramos himself in an anime event held in a school in the city of Buenos Aires, Argentina; confirmed that Galactic Battles, have a total of 54 episodes (therefore, will be the same amount of episodes that have in the USA) In case you want to check, I pass this [http://pokemon-project.com/index.php?c=comentar&modo=ver&nid=333 link] (this in Spanish, even there are also videos of Gabriel talking) --[[User:Toonamimaniacolatino|Toonami]][http://wiki.pkstadium.com/Usuario:Toonamimaniacolatino maniacolatino] 22:50, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
::::Well actually I think there was a small mistake at the time you added informaicion of Pokémon in Tooncast. luckily I corrected and got some references to be precise. Finally. regarding Tooncast coverage in Latin America, the channel is new (in fact 2 months ago has just celebrated its first-anniversary) but the channel is for the whole region including Brazil (clear signal that there is exclusive to that country because it is in Portuguese). The drawback with Tooncast is that, as a new channel is not well known even by people, not available in some cable operators in most countries of Latin America and may thereby obtain only in exclusive packages of channels and not on basic packages. Well, I'll looking more and more information to keep adding to the article. Indeed, in the Wiki "in Spanish" where I am (which is linked in my signature) had created [http://wiki.pkstadium.com/Cartoon_Network_Latinoam%C3%A9rica an article] on Cartoon Network Latin America and its history with Pokémon. There are several things there and it was thought that if you would be bringing some data in there and make the article a section exclusively for Cartoon Network. If you look at the article (although this in Spanish) and then tell me your opinion --[[User:Toonamimaniacolatino|Toonami]][http://wiki.pkstadium.com/Usuario:Toonamimaniacolatino maniacolatino] 15:33, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
:::::That's right, there Tooncast for all countries of Latin America who speak Spanish and another that is unique to Brazil. Ok, no problem, take your time reviewing the article. --[[User:Toonamimaniacolatino|Toonami]][http://wiki.pkstadium.com/Usuario:Toonamimaniacolatino maniacolatino] 02:04, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
::::::Hi, wanted to know how you go with the translation of the article and that you think. Likewise also want to ask which we should put in the [[Pokémon in Latin America|article]], ie add other sections. --[[User:Toonamimaniacolatino|Toonami]][http://wiki.pkstadium.com/Usuario:Toonamimaniacolatino maniacolatino] 17:41, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Well I think I'll see as I do the section on Cartoon Network in article but I must say you're right on some points. Also on the schedule, I think it would be somewhat tedious because although Cartoon Network covers throughout Latin America in Spanish, the signals of Cartoon Network to Mexico, Cartoon Network to Argentina and Cartoon Network to the rest of Latin America tend to be different is, its programming may be the same but the schedules are others except when it comes to premieres. Well, I wanted to ask what else should go in the article. Think you should have something like Fandom? ie things like fan sites that originate in Latin America or what? what else do you think should be added. --[[User:Toonamimaniacolatino|Toonami]][http://wiki.pkstadium.com/Usuario:Toonamimaniacolatino maniacolatino] 01:38, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

==To do list==
I was going around, fixing up stuff linking to Chiisai-u instead of ゥ, and found your [[User:Zesty Cactus/To-do list|To do list]]. It uses Chiisai-u instead of ゥ and many glitch-related tasks have already been completed. Do what you want with it, I'm just letting you know. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|Snorlax]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|Monster]] 03:00, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
:Yeah I know I haven't updated it since like August :P I guess I should probably clear that off... [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 03:02, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

==Not quite stubs, but something is lacking...==

I have discussed this question earlier on Turtwig A's talkpage, and they have come to the conclusion that the question is best reserved for an administrator (such as yourself, Zesty Cactus--you in particular because it seems that you have an unfailing penchant for giving articles cover pictures)
Would it be logical to create a template--like the template used to classify articles for being stubs--that designates book articles as needing pictures of their covers (or otherwise stating that the article 'is lacking important pictures'?) Several books appear to lack pictures of their covers, most notably the book Battle for the Zephyr Badge. Along this, should location stubs possess a similar 'this article needs pictures', to provide a picture of the area described? For example, the article for Sayda Island does not have a picture.[[User:Steph|Steph]] 18:45, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
:Um... Zesty isn't as admin... [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 18:47, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
::Sorry...I was under the impression that Zesty Cactus was an administrator--or otherwise, as aforementioned she does have an unfailing penchant for putting cover pictures into articles. Still, that would not make her an admin. Sorry for any inconvenience I may have caused you, Zesty Cactus. So, if not Zesty Cactus...who would you advise that I discuss the matter of my proposed 'this article is lacking important pictures' template? [[User:Steph|Steph]] 19:03, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
:::Well, still, Zesty is a very good user, she can help. Also, I myself agree for the creation of such a template. It may be a good idea {{ut|TTEchidna|here}} to ask, or [[Bulbapedia talk:Project Merchandise/Books to-do list|here in the case of the books]]. In the meantime, it would be a good idea to create the template at User:Steph/(template name). [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 19:41, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
::::Not a bad idea, although I don't know how used it will be. I guess Pokémon Adventures has a "this round needs a picture" template... although I could just go through all the books myself and add missing covers. D; Are a lot of books missing covers or just a few random ones? [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 20:41, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
:::::I don't think PS rounds have a missing image ''template'' per say. I can make the infobox work to show us which ones need an image through a category, if you so please. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 20:49, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
::::::That's probably a better idea. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 20:51, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
::::::(got conflicted) I think that's more or less what she/I had in mind, so I guess you or someone could just set up the infobox to do that? Please? I would, but I don't know how. :P [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 20:52, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
:::::::There are NOT 50. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 22:26, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Dah... those all have covers? o_O I think you got it reversed XD [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 22:28, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
:::::(Inclined to the left as not for the text to make a scroll bar appear at the bottom) Excellent, Zesty Cactus! Truly, you are an awesome contributor to the images of Project Merchandise! Maybe Project Merchandise will acquire some recognition someday....I shall now resume my work on adding Merchandise details. Also, is there any way I can help with correcting those erroneously listed and adding the proper books to the list? [[User:Steph|Steph]] 22:38, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
(resetting indent) I looked at the coding for the infobox and I don't know why it's screwing up... I mean, you can look at it too, but it's probably easier to just wait for someone who's better at wikicode to fix it. :P I guess just keep working at the articles for now. That Battle for the Zephyr Badge page could use some help? [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 22:43, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
:There are two: [[Pokémon Pop Quiz 3: Brain Busters]] and [[The Rise of Darkrai (book)]]. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 23:24, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

== Re:Tooncast ==

Hello, firstly happy new year!} and second, well I think with what you did [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pok%C3%A9mon_in_Latin_America&diff=976798&oldid=967721 here] is enough, after all, Tooncast is for all Latin America. --[[User:Toonamimaniacolatino|Toonami]][http://wiki.pkstadium.com/Usuario:Toonamimaniacolatino maniacolatino] 15:29, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

== Re:Hey*Can you respond to my questions soon?* ==

What you said"Thanks for the help with the 9th Summit Pass article, but in the future, please try not to use the term "you" in encyclopedic articles. I know it can be kind of difficult to convert instructions to something completely third-person but it's a rule D; thanks!" --ZestyCactus 02:00, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

'What I said back" Opps, I forgot about that. Did you fix it or should I go do that right now?
Also, I was thinking about adding pages for the Stations in between the Station Passes. What do you think?

Also, I have the game with me right here, so I was counting floors. But right now I'm finding the Pokémon in each pass. I up to the 3rd Station Pass so far. Want me to type in what I have so far, you know, in one of those little Pokémon graphs that have the floor and lv and other stuff? I can do that if you think I should.

Also (I'm using that too much), I'm going to keep adding the stations and pass areas so people can add info to the pages too, and make it better.

I can't believe I'm adding pages to Bulbapedia!Woot!"--[[User:Spotman234|Spotman234]] 02:11, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

''What i'm saying now"ANSWER MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!! Thank you.--[[User:Spotman234|Spotman234]] 03:36, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
:I fixed up the 9th Summit Pass for you, don't worry about it. As for the Station Passes, quite frankly I don't know enough about the Mystery Dungeon games to give you my own opinion or even an educated guess. You could always ask one of our {{bp|administrators}} what they think :) --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 03:41, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

==Topps "Pikablu" Cards==
You really own the Topps cards that identify Marill as "Pikablu"? {{unsigned|Redstar}}
:Sure do. Did you want to see a scan or something? --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 00:25, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
::Definitely. I've been trying to find a copy of them for reference-purposes. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 00:43, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
:::[http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/zeldascousin/scan0036.jpg Ta-da!] I love how they make a point of calling him "Pikablu" like, five times. --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 01:01, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
::::Thank you very much! Would you mind me using the scan for the page I'm working on, and, if so, would you like credit of any kind? [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 01:05, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
:::::No problem! You can use it on your page for sure, and I don't really care if I get any credit or not, it's just a trading card. :P (though, I'd be interested in seeing the page when you're done) --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 01:08, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
::::::Well, it's only fair to credit you since it was difficult trying to get information on the card. Funny how you just gave an off-hand reference and that was it.

::::::The page is already up, though we've been updating and expanding it almost daily the last couple of weeks. You're welcome to see it now, but maybe you'd rather wait until we can expand for this new reference? [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 01:10, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

User talk:Zesty Cactus/Archive 2

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Redstar:

Talk:Fake Pokémon

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0:
Someone should add a bit on here about the fake Shaymin Sky Form, that counts as a fake Pokémon [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 23:52, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

That Shaymin Sky Form fooled everybody. PK's too good of an artist. [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 16:18, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Agreed |: I wish i could draw like that! [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 16:43, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

::It's not that hard. The only thing that stops me from doing that is the color. To tell the truth, I'm a good drawer but a horrible colorer.[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 16:45, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Oh! and I don't like tricking people like that...[[Image:Shaymin_Sky.png]]...Shaymin says ROAR!!!--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 16:48, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
::::I suck at drawing, but i'm a good colored 0: We're like opposites! [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 16:56, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

I actually looked up "Enpandought" and the only page I got was this page (Bulbapedia's Fake Pokémon) where did y'all get that Pokémon? [[User:Psuamkpukrian]] 10:00, November 27, 2009 (UTC)
:Same thing happened here. Being an expert on fake Pokémon and the Pokégods, can't say that I've ever seen this "Enpandought" mentioned at any time at any place. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 09:21, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
::The actual Pokemon name appears to be "Enpanda". It is a fake Pokemon that is on Serebii's fake Pokemon page. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 14:14, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

==Move==
I think this should be at "Fakémon", as that is what these things are commonly known as. Anyone else? ''Alpha'' [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 16:34, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
:This name is better since not everyone uses "Fakémon" as a term (and Fake Pokémon is quite easily understandable). Fakémon is a redirect here, I think that's enough. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 17:06, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

==Definition==
We need to define what a "fake" Pokémon is. Some of the examples on here would be more appropriately placed on the [[PokéGods]] article. There's a clear difference between fake Pokémon (created with no intention of being viewed as real) and the PokéGods (believed to be real by many). [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 14:20, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

==Yoshi & Luigi==
Why are the fake Pokémon Yoshi and Luigi not allowed on this article? [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 22:15, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
:Because they aren't fake Pokemon. This article is for LITERAL fake Pokemon. Not jokes of Nintendo characters being Pokemon. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 01:44, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
::How can a fake Pokémon be non-literal? By definition, an April Fool's day joke is a ''joke''. By your logic, we shouldn't include any of the other April Fool's day fake Pokémon. In fact, ''none'' of the Pokémon on this page should be here under your logic because they're all fake. The fact of the matter is that both Yoshi and Luigi were presented as Pokémon for April Fool's days jokes, and Yoshi was even given a Pokédex entry by the magazine that perpetrated the hoax. There's no more ways for a fake Pokémon to be "literal". [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 02:21, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
:::i actually do recall many magazines tricking fans into thinking Yoshi was in Red and Blue. not so much Luigi. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 02:24, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
::::Expert Gamer magazine was the original source for Yoshi code, which was then re-printed and presented as real in other magazines later on. I have that particular issue coming in the mail for reference purposes, so I could provide the information here if needed. The Luigi trick supposedly originated in Nintendo Power, but I don't recall seeing that so I'm researching the origin of that one to be sure. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 02:26, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
:::::If we can verify that completely, sure... but only if they're mentioned as "non-Pokémon fake Pokémon". '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:48, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
::::::Agreed perfectly. I'll get sources when I can. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 03:08, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
Expert Gamer issue #58. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 14:17, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

==Incorrect information==
The article currently lists information that is incorrect or inappropriate for this article's subject. "Assumptions of '''real''' Pokémon", key-word "real", indicates that they are not fake. "Previously false assumptions" is also incorrect because not a single one of those assumed Pokémon had any fake artwork for them, with the exception of Leafeon.

This article is about FAKE Pokémon, not word-of-mouth mentions of something that may exist, but was never in any way presented as real. Even the recommended Nidogod and Nidogoddess turn up nothing on a Google search; the former a single result on a Spanish forum for fusions, and the latter nothing at all. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 14:16, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
:I agree with you on Nidogod/Nidogoddess, I've never ever heard of those before (ditto for the Teddiursa one). An article like this should only present the really really well known stuff, like Mewthree and the stupid Pikablu thing. --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 17:56, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
::I've actually been informed that "Nidogoddess" turns up more when searching for "Nidogodess" (one d). However, both should be relegated only to the [[PokéGods]] page, since they don't necessarily fit the profile of a "fake" Pokémon. I feel we should only cover Pokémon on here that were intended to hoax or mislead people, as if we didn't, we'd be obligated to cover fan sprites and designs, of which there are hundreds. There's a clear difference between intent and "everyone knows they're fake".

::As for your comment on Pikablu: several official sources identified Marill as "Pikablu", so it wasn't necessarily "stupid". [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 18:00, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
:::Oh, I know the Pikablu thing was acknowledged by Nintendo, I have some Pikachu's Vacation cards that call it "Pikablu". I just think it's "stupid" because I personally believe they tried to make Marill the "next" Pikachu and that's why they planted the Pikablu thing. :P (and when that didn't work, they invented Pichu. That's just my theory though ^^)
:::Oh, and I agree with moving the Nidogod(dess) stuff et al to the PokéGods page. This article should be about hoaxes and widespread rumours, not fanon. --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 00:11, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
::::I can't say one way or the other, but it does seem likely that Nintendo intended to market Marill as the "next" Pikachu. Funny how nothing beat the original, huh? They haven't even tried again, except maybe with Lucario.

::::You can move Nidogod(dess) yourself, or discuss it, but I'm no longer allowed to touch the PokéGods article. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 00:23, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

Manectric (Pokémon)

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{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Electrike | next=Plusle |type=electric|prevnum=309|nextnum=311}}
{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Manectric |
jname=ライボルト |
tmname=Livolt |
image=310Manectric.png|size=130|
caption=Artwork from R/S/E |
pron=<sc>men-nec-tric</sc>|
ndex=310 |
hdex=079 |
fdex=147 |
typen=1 |
type1=Electric |
type2= |
species=Discharge |
height-ftin=4'11" |
height-m=1.5 |
weight-lbs=88.6 |
weight-kg=40.2 |
abilityn=2 |
ability1=Static |
ability2=Lightningrod |
egggroupn=1 |
egggroup1=Ground |
egggroup2= |
eggcycles=20 |
evsp=2 |
expyield=168 |
lv100exp=1,250,000 |
gendercode=127 |
color=Yellow |
catchrate=45 |
body=08 |
pokefordex=manectric |
generation=3 |
footnotes=}}
'''Manectric''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''ライボルト''' ''Livolt'') is an {{type2|Electric}} Pokémon.

It [[Evolution|evolves]] from {{p|Electrike}} starting at [[level]] 26.

==Biology==
===Physiology===
Manectric is a mammal-like Pokémon that resembles a blue dog or wolf. It has a yellow mane on its head that it discharges electricity from, as well as yellow clumps of fur at the top of its hind legs and around its front two feet.
====Gender differences====
None.

====Special abilities====
Manectric can discharge electricity from its mane to create thunderstorms and thunderclouds in the atmosphere. The sparks can often start fires. Like its pre-evolution {{p|Electrike}}, it possibly generates the electricity in its fur and mane from the friction caused when it runs. The electricity it discharges ranges from a weak shock such as {{m|Thunder Wave}} to paralyze the opponent, to a strong {{m|Thunderbolt}} to deal large amounts of damage. Manectric also has the ability to learn {{m|Flamethrower}} and {{m|Overheat}}.

===Behavior===
Manectric is an independent Pokémon; it rarely appears before humans. This may be due to the fact that it summons storm clouds upon entering a battle.

===Habitat===
[[Image:Grassland.gif|right|frame|{{DL|List of Pokémon by habitat|Grassland Pokémon}}]]

===Diet===
{{main|Pokémon food}}

==In the anime==
[[Image:Wattson'sManectric.png|right|thumb|220px|[[Wattson]]'s {{TP|Wattson|Manectric}}]]
{{TP|Wattson|Manectric}} was first seen under the ownership of [[Wattson]]. {{Ash}}'s {{AP|Torkoal}} battled against it and lost.

Manectric made a cameo in ''[[AG135|Numero Uno Articuno!]]'' as one of {{FB|Factory Head|Noland}}'s Pokémon.

An Electrike that evolved into Manectric appeared in ''[[DP042|The Electrike Company!]]''.

===Pokédex entries===
{{Animedexheader|Hoenn}}
{{Animedexbody|AG059|Manectric|Ash's Pokédex|Manectric, the Discharge Pokémon. Manectric has the ability to gather local electrical energy in its mane, and then {{m|Discharge|discharge}} it, creating thunder clouds.}}
{{Animedexfooter/Pokémon|''Advanced Generation''|Hoenn}}

==In the manga==
In the manga adaption of [[Arceus and the Jewel of Life]], [[Marcus]] owned a Manectric and he used it along with his other Pokémon to attack Arceus.

==In the TCG==
{{main|Manectric (TCG)}}

==Game data==
===NPC appearances===
* [[Pokémon Trozei!]]: [[Lucy Fleetfoot]] owns a Manectric.

===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex
|type=electric
|gen=3
|rubydex=Manectric is constantly discharging electricity from its mane. The sparks sometimes ignite forest fires. When it enters a battle, this Pokémon creates thunderclouds.
|sapphiredex=Manectric discharges strong electricity from its mane. The mane is used for collecting electricity in the atmosphere. This Pokémon creates thunderclouds above its head.
|emeralddex=Because lightning falls in their vicinities, Manectric were thought to have been born from lightning. In battle, they create thunderclouds.
|firereddex=It rarely appears before people. It is said to nest where lightning has fallen.
|leafgreendex=It rarely appears before people. It is said to nest where lightning has fallen.
|diamonddex=It {{M|discharge}}s electricity from its mane. It creates a thundercloud overhead to {{M|Thunder|drop lightning bolts}}.
|pearldex=It {{M|discharge}}s electricity from its mane. It creates a thundercloud overhead to drop lightning bolts.
|platinumdex=It {{M|discharge}}s electricity from its mane. It creates a thundercloud overhead to drop lightning bolts.
|}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability|
type=electric |
gen=3 |
frlgex=rse|
rsrarity=Rare |
rsarea=[[Route]] {{rtn|118}} |
erarity=Rare |
earea=[[Route]] {{rtn|118}} |
xdrarity=One |
xdarea=[[Citadark Isle]] ([[Shadow Pokémon|Shadow]]) |
dparea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Electrike}} |
ptarea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Electrike}} |
palarea=Field |
}}

====In side games====

{{SidegameAvail
|type=electric
|pinballrs=Evolve from {{p|Electrike}}
|trozei=Endless Level 51 Endless Level 57 Forever Level 1 Mr. Who's Den
|md=Evolve from {{p|Electrike}}
|ranger=[[Olive Jungle]] [[Jungle Relic]]
|md2=Evolve from {{p|Electrike}}
}}

===Stats===
====Base stats====
{{BaseStats|
type=electric |
HP=70 |
Attack=75 |
Defense=60 |
SpAtk=105 |
SpDef=60 |
Speed=105 }}

====Pokéthlon stats====
{{Pokéthlon
|type=Electric
|Speed=4
|SpeedMax=5
|Power=3
|PowerMax=3
|Technique=4
|TechniqueMax=4
|Stamina=3
|StaminaMax=3
|Jump=3
|JumpMax=4
}}

===Type effectiveness===
{{DP Type effectiveness|
type1=electric |
Normal= 100 |
Fighting=100 |
Flying= 50 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 200 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 100 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 50 |

Fire= 100 |
Water= 100 |
Grass= 100 |
Electric= 50 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 100 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 }}

===Learnset===
{{learnset intro|Manectric}}
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{movelist|electric|electric|4|3|Manectric}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Fire Fang|Fire|Physical|65|95|15|Beauty|3}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Tackle|Normal|Physical|35|95|35|Tough|3}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Thunder Wave|Electric|Status|—|100|10|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Leer|Normal|Status|—|100|30|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Howl|Normal|Status|—|—|40|Cool|0}}
{{mlentry4|4|Thunder Wave|Electric|Status|—|100|10|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|9|Leer|Normal|Status|—|100|30|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|12|Howl|Normal|Status|—|—|40|Cool|0}}
{{mlentry4|17|Quick Attack|Normal|Physical|40|100|30|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|20|Spark|Electric|Physical|65|100|20|Cool|3||'''}}
{{mlentry4|25|Odor Sleuth|Normal|Status|—|—|40|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|30|Bite|Dark|Physical|60|100|25|Tough|3}}
{{mlentry4|37|Thunder Fang|Electric|Physical|65|95|15|Smart|3||'''}}
{{mlentry4|42|Roar|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|49|Discharge|Electric|Special|80|100|15|Cool|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|54|Charge|Electric|Status|—|—|20|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|61|Thunder|Electric|Special|120|70|10|Cool|2||'''}}
{{movelist/note|4|electric}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{movelisttm|electric|electric|4|3|Manectric}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM05]]|Roar|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM06]]|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|85|10|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM10]]|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|—|100|15|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM15]]|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|5|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM16]]|Light Screen|Psychic|Status|—|—|30|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM17]]|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM18]]|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM21]]|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM24]]|Thunderbolt|Electric|Special|95|100|15|Cool|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM25]]|Thunder|Electric|Special|120|70|10|Cool|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM27]]|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM32]]|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM34]]|Shock Wave|Electric|Special|60|—|20|Cool|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM35]]|Flamethrower|Fire|Special|95|100|15|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM42]]|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM43]]|Secret Power|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM44]]|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM45]]|Attract|Normal|Status|—|100|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM46]]|Thief|Dark|Physical|40|100|10|Tough|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM50]]|Overheat|Fire|Special|140|90|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM57]]|Charge Beam|Electric|Special|50|90|10|Beauty|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM58]]|Endure|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM68]]|Giga Impact|Normal|Physical|150|90|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM70]]|Flash|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM73]]|Thunder Wave|Electric|Status|—|100|10|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM78]]|Captivate|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM82]]|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM83]]|Natural Gift|Normal|Physical|—|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM87]]|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM90]]|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM04]]|Strength|Normal|Physical|80|100|15|Tough|3}}
{{movelist/note|4|electric}}

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
{{eggmoves|electric|electric|4|3|Manectric}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Rattata}}, {{p|Raticate}} {{p|Arbok}} {{p|Growlithe}}, {{p|Arcanine}} {{p|Girafarig}} {{p|Snubbull}}, {{p|Granbull}} {{p|Houndour}}, {{p|Houndoom}} {{p|Poochyena}}, {{p|Mightyena}} {{p|Exploud}} {{p|Mawile}} {{p|Seviper}} {{p|Walrein}} {{p|Shinx}}, {{p|Luxio}}, {{p|Luxray}} {{p|Floatzel}} {{p|Hippopotas}}, {{p|Hippowdon}}|Crunch|Dark|Physical|80|100|15|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Torkoal}}|Curse|???|Status|—|—|10|Tough|0}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Pikachu}}, {{p|Raichu}} {{p|Mareep}}, {{p|Flaaffy}}, {{p|Ampharos}} {{p|Electrike}}, {{p|Manectric}} {{p|Shinx}}, {{p|Luxio}}, {{p|Luxray}} {{p|Pachirisu}}|Discharge|Electric|Special|80|100|15|Cool|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Snubbull}}, {{p|Granbull}} {{p|Houndour}}, {{p|Houndoom}} {{p|Manectric}} {{p|Arbok}} {{p|Growlithe}}, {{p|Arcanine}} {{p|Flareon}} {{p|Donphan}} {{p|Exploud}} {{p|Hippowdon}}|Fire Fang|Fire|Physical|65|95|15|Beauty|3}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Seel}}, {{p|Dewgong}} {{p|Snubbull}}, {{p|Granbull}} {{p|Zigzagoon}}, {{p|Linoone}} {{p|Bidoof}}, {{p|Bibarel}}|Headbutt|Normal|Physical|70|100|15|Tough|3}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Snubbull}}, {{p|Granbull}} {{p|Snorunt}}, {{p|Glalie}} {{p|Arbok}} {{p|Piloswine}}, {{p|Mamoswine}} {{p|Glaceon}} {{p|Floatzel}} {{p|Walrein}} {{p|Exploud}} {{p|Hippowdon}}|Ice Fang|Ice|Physical|65|95|15|Cool|3}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Sandshrew}}, {{p|Sandslash}} {{p|Cyndaquil}}, {{p|Quilava}}, {{p|Typhlosion}} {{p|Aipom}}, {{p|Ambipom}} {{p|Espeon}} {{p|Pachirisu}} {{p|Buizel}}, {{p|Floatzel}}|Swift|Normal|Special|60|—|20|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Persian}} {{P|Linoone}}|Switcheroo|Dark|Status|—|100|10|Cool|0|||HGSS}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Snubbull}}, {{p|Granbull}} {{p|Houndoom}} {{p|Electrike}}, {{p|Manectric}} {{p|Arbok}} {{p|Shinx}}, {{p|Luxio}}, {{p|Luxray}} {{p|Arcanine}} {{p|Jolteon}} {{p|Exploud}} {{p|Donphan}} {{p|Hippowdon}}|Thunder Fang|Electric|Physical|65|95|15|Smart|3||'''}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Vigoroth}}, {{p|Slaking}} {{p|Whismur}}, {{p|Loudred}}, {{p|Exploud}} {{p|Spinda}}|Uproar|Normal|Special|50|100|10|Cute|2}}
{{eggmoves/note|4|electric}}

====By [[Move tutor|tutoring]]====
{{tutor|electric|electric|4b|3a|Manectric}}
{{mtentry4|Headbutt|Normal|Physical|70|100|15|Tough|3|||no|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Magnet Rise|Electric|Status|—|—|10|Cute|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Mud-Slap|Ground|Special|20|100|10|Cute|3|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Signal Beam|Bug|Special|75|100|15|Beauty|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Snore|Normal|Special|40|100|15|Cool|3|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Swift|Normal|Special|60|—|20|Cool|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{tutor/note|4|electric}}

====Special moves====
{{Shadow moves|310|44|Shadow End|Shadow Mist|Shadow Sky|--|Refresh|Normal|Thunder|Electric|Rain Dance|Water|Bite|Dark|xd|electric|electric}}

===Side game data===

{{Side game|
type=electric |
ndex=310 |
PinRSevo=yes |
Trozei=yes |
rarity=Rare |
Dungeon=yes |
body=1 |
rate=Evolve |
area=Thunder Meadow |
P1= Lightning becomes my energy! |
P2= My health has gone down by half. That's not good. |
P3= I'm finished... My lightning energy is just about gone... |
PL= I've leveled up! I'm brimming with the power of lightning! |
Partner=no |
Ranger=yes |
typeG= Electric |
typeA= Electric |
field= Recharge |
fieldpower= 2 |
loop=3 |
MinEXP=12 |
MaxEXP=12 |
browser= Manectric launches orbs of electricity. It can also recharge the [[Capture Styler|Styler]]. |
Dungeon2=yes |
body2=1 |
rate2=-10% |
iq=F |
}}

===Evolution===
{{evobox
|family=Normal
|sprite1=309
|name1=Electrike
|type1-1=Electric
|evotype1=Level
|level1=26
|sprite2=310
|name2=Manectric
|type1-2=Electric}}

===Sprites===
{{Sprite|
type=electric|
gen=3|
gender=none|
ndex=310|
name=Manectric|
}}

==Trivia==
* Although in the anime it is [[Wattson]]'s main battler, in the games Manectric wasn't even on Wattson's team until {{v2|Emerald}}.
===Origin===
It may be based on a demon of Japanese lore, the 雷獣 ''[[wp:Raiju|raijū]]'', an elemental lightning creature that can take on the shape of various mammals.
====Name origin====
Manectric's name can be broken down into ''mane'' and ''electric''. Alternatively, "manticore" and "electric".

''Livolt'' may be a combination of ''lion'' or ''live'', referring to a wire actively carrying an electric current, and ''volt''. The name may also be a combination of 雷 ''rai'', thunder, and ''bolt''.

==In other languages==
*[[List of German Pokémon names|German]]: Voltenso - Includes ''volt''.
*[[List of French Pokémon names|French]]: Elecsprint - From ''electric'' and ''{{wp|sprint (race)|sprint}}''.

*[[List of Korean Pokémon names|Korean]]: 썬더볼트 ''Thunderbolt''

==Related articles==
* [[Wattson's Manectric]]

==External links==

{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Electrike | next=Plusle |type=electric|prevnum=309|nextnum=311}}
{{Project Pokédex notice}}

[[de:Voltenso]]
[[es:Manectric]]
[[fr:Élecsprint]]
[[ja:ライボルト]]
[[pl:Manectric]]
[[pt:Manectric (pokémon)]]

2010-01-14T14:30:08Z

Redstar: /* Fake Pokémon */

Mewthree

2010-01-14T14:26:28Z

Redstar: There are five users in favor of deletion and/or merging on the talk page. That's certainly enough

{{delete}}
[[Image:Mewthree.jpg|thumb|right|Mewthree X in Pokémon ChaosBlack.]]
'''Mewthree''' is possibly one of the most famous [[fake Pokémon]]. It appears commonly in fake [[cheating|cheats]] and [[fan fiction]].

Rumors of Mewthree's existence within the [[Pokémon games]] have circulated since the [[Generation I|first generation]]. Many fake methods were created, that were often impossible to perform or resulted in the player deleting their save file. These stories have led to a number of [[hack games]] focusing on this unofficial Pokémon. The most notable of these is {{DL|Hack games|Pokémon Chaos Black}}, in which Mewthree can [[Evolution|evolve]] into another fake Pokémon, Mewthree X.

Mewthree was also one of the names given to the silhouette of {{p|Lucario}} early after its release on many internet forums because it appeared strikingly similar to Mewtwo.

==Example of a fake method==
One fake method of catching Mewthree is that after all 150 [[Pokémon]] are captured in the [[Pokédex]] in {{game|Red and Blue|s}}, returning to the [[Cerulean Cave]] where {{p|Mewtwo}} was found and using {{m|Rock Smash}} on a rock 50 times would make a [[level|Lv.]] 99 Mewthree appear. This, of course, is impossible, as Rock Smash was not introduced until [[Generation II]], and Pokémon with [[move]]s not available in [[Generation I]] were unable to be traded back.

{{Project Fandom notice}}
[[Category:Fake Pokémon]]

User talk:Oz

2010-01-14T14:23:02Z

Redstar: /* Fake Pokémon */

User talk:Oz

2010-01-14T14:21:02Z

Redstar:

Talk:Fake Pokémon

2010-01-14T14:17:40Z

Redstar: /* Yoshi & Luigi */

Talk:Fake Pokémon

2010-01-14T14:17:09Z

Redstar: /* Incorrect information */

0:
Someone should add a bit on here about the fake Shaymin Sky Form, that counts as a fake Pokémon [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 23:52, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

That Shaymin Sky Form fooled everybody. PK's too good of an artist. [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 16:18, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Agreed |: I wish i could draw like that! [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 16:43, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

::It's not that hard. The only thing that stops me from doing that is the color. To tell the truth, I'm a good drawer but a horrible colorer.[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 16:45, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Oh! and I don't like tricking people like that...[[Image:Shaymin_Sky.png]]...Shaymin says ROAR!!!--[[User:Taviource|Taviource]] 16:48, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
::::I suck at drawing, but i'm a good colored 0: We're like opposites! [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 16:56, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

I actually looked up "Enpandought" and the only page I got was this page (Bulbapedia's Fake Pokémon) where did y'all get that Pokémon? [[User:Psuamkpukrian]] 10:00, November 27, 2009 (UTC)
:Same thing happened here. Being an expert on fake Pokémon and the Pokégods, can't say that I've ever seen this "Enpandought" mentioned at any time at any place. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 09:21, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
::The actual Pokemon name appears to be "Enpanda". It is a fake Pokemon that is on Serebii's fake Pokemon page. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 14:14, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

==Move==
I think this should be at "Fakémon", as that is what these things are commonly known as. Anyone else? ''Alpha'' [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 16:34, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
:This name is better since not everyone uses "Fakémon" as a term (and Fake Pokémon is quite easily understandable). Fakémon is a redirect here, I think that's enough. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 17:06, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

==Definition==
We need to define what a "fake" Pokémon is. Some of the examples on here would be more appropriately placed on the [[PokéGods]] article. There's a clear difference between fake Pokémon (created with no intention of being viewed as real) and the PokéGods (believed to be real by many). [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 14:20, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

==Yoshi & Luigi==
Why are the fake Pokémon Yoshi and Luigi not allowed on this article? [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 22:15, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
:Because they aren't fake Pokemon. This article is for LITERAL fake Pokemon. Not jokes of Nintendo characters being Pokemon. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 01:44, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
::How can a fake Pokémon be non-literal? By definition, an April Fool's day joke is a ''joke''. By your logic, we shouldn't include any of the other April Fool's day fake Pokémon. In fact, ''none'' of the Pokémon on this page should be here under your logic because they're all fake. The fact of the matter is that both Yoshi and Luigi were presented as Pokémon for April Fool's days jokes, and Yoshi was even given a Pokédex entry by the magazine that perpetrated the hoax. There's no more ways for a fake Pokémon to be "literal". [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 02:21, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
:::i actually do recall many magazines tricking fans into thinking Yoshi was in Red and Blue. not so much Luigi. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 02:24, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
::::Expert Gamer magazine was the original source for Yoshi code, which was then re-printed and presented as real in other magazines later on. I have that particular issue coming in the mail for reference purposes, so I could provide the information here if needed. The Luigi trick supposedly originated in Nintendo Power, but I don't recall seeing that so I'm researching the origin of that one to be sure. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 02:26, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
:::::If we can verify that completely, sure... but only if they're mentioned as "non-Pokémon fake Pokémon". '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:48, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
::::::Agreed perfectly. I'll get sources when I can. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 03:08, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

==Incorrect information==
The article currently lists information that is incorrect or inappropriate for this article's subject. "Assumptions of '''real''' Pokémon", key-word "real", indicates that they are not fake. "Previously false assumptions" is also incorrect because not a single one of those assumed Pokémon had any fake artwork for them, with the exception of Leafeon.

This article is about FAKE Pokémon, not word-of-mouth mentions of something that may exist, but was never in any way presented as real. Even the recommended Nidogod and Nidogoddess turn up nothing on a Google search; the former a single result on a Spanish forum for fusions, and the latter nothing at all. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 14:16, 14 January 2010 (UTC)