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Template talk:Pokémon Infobox

2018-11-27T18:35:12Z

Reboot:

== Parameters ==

Any parameters which are unused should be left out. Calling but leaving blank unused parameters can lead to errors.

*''name'' : English name. If unknown, leave out.
*''jname'' : Japanese name.
*''tmname'' : Romanisation of Japanese name. Trademarked version if available.
*''jtranslit'' : Transliteration of Japanese name.
*''category'' : Category name, from the Pokédex.
*''forme'' : Number of images to display. Only to be used if the Pokémon has more than one form.
*''form1'' : Name of form 1, if applicable. Not needed for Pokémon with no forms.
*''form2'' : Name of form 2, if applicable.
*''form3'' : Name of form 3, if applicable.
*''form4'' : Name of form 4, if applicable.
*''form5'' : Name of form 5, if applicable.
*''form6'' : Name of form 6, if applicable.
*''image'' : Filename of image, if not at the default location.
*''image2'' : Filename of form 2 (or Mega Evolution) image.
*''image3'' : Filename of form 3 (or Mega Evolution 2) image.
*''image4'' : Filename of form 4 image.
*''image5'' : Filename of form 5 image.
*''image6'' : Filename of form 6 image.
*''mega'' : Name of the Mega Stone (first Mega Stone where applicable). Also controls Mega Evolution related displays.
*''mega2'' : Name of the second Mega Stone. Also controls Mega Evolution related displays.
*''generation'' : Generation Pokémon was introduced
*''ndex'' : National Pokédex number
*''jdex'' : Johto Pokédex number. New number, where applicable.
*''oldjdex'' : Old Johto Pokédex number.
*''hdex'' : Hoenn Pokédex number
*''sdex'' : Sinnoh Pokédex number
*''udex'' : Unova (BW) Pokédex number
*''u2dex'' : Unova (B2W2) Pokédex number
*''karea'' : Kalos Pokédex area (Central, Coastal, or Mountain)
*''kdex'' : Kalos Pokédex number
*''adex'' : Alola Pokédex number
*''fbrow'' : Fiore Browser number
*''abrow'' : Almia Browser number
*''obrow'' : Oblivia (Present) Browser number
*''opbrow'' : Oblivia (Past) Browser number, including prefix
*''type1'' : Type. (First type listed in the Pokédex, where applicable)
*''type2'' : Second type, if applicable.
*''form2type1'' : Form 2 type. (First type listed in the Pokédex, where applicable)
*''form2type2'' : Form 2 second type, if applicable.
*''form3type1'' : Form 3 type. (First type listed in the Pokédex, where applicable)
*''form3type2'' : Form 3 second type, if applicable.
*''form4type1'' : Form 4 type. (First type listed in the Pokédex, where applicable)
*''form4type2'' : Form 4 second type, if applicable.
*''form5type1'' : Form 5 type. (First type listed in the Pokédex, where applicable)
*''form5type2'' : Form 5 second type, if applicable.
*''form6type1'' : Form 6 type. (First type listed in the Pokédex, where applicable)
*''form6type2'' : Form 6 second type, if applicable.
*''abilitylayout'' : The basic desired layout of the Abilities, in the form "''cells_in_first_row''+''cells_in_second_row''". (Each cell can contain one or two Abilities per form, or a Mega or Hidden Ability, mainly depending on which Ability parameters are set.)
*''abilitycold'' : If the Pokémon has a Hidden Ability that will be the only cell in the second row, set this to 2 so it spans both cells above
*''abilitycolm'' : If the Pokémon has a Mega Ability that will be the only cell in the second row, set this to 2 so it spans both cells above
*''ability1'' : First (or only) standard Ability
*''ability2'' : Second standard Ability
*''ability2-1'' : Form 2 first (or only) Ability
*''ability2-2'' : Form 2 second Ability
*''ability3-1'' : Form 3 first (or only) Ability
*''ability3-2'' : Form 3 second Ability
*''abilityd'' : Hidden Ability
*''abilitydcaption'' : A caption prefixed to the label for ''abilityd''
*''abilityd2'' : Second Hidden Ability (for an alternate form)
*''abilityd2caption'' : A caption prefixed to the label for ''abilityd2''
*''abilitym'' : First (only) Mega Evolution Ability
*''abilitym2'' : Second Mega Evolution Ability
*''gendercode'' : Byte setting for the species' gender ratios:
** 256 = unknown, 255 = genderless, 254 = all female, 223 = 1 male:7 female, 191 = 1 male:3 female, 127 = 1 male:1 female, 63 = 3 male:1 female, 31 = 7 male:1 female, 0 = male only.
*''catchrate'' : Catch rate
*''egggroupn'' : Number of Egg Groups. 0 if "Undiscovered group" (i.e., no Eggs)
*''egggroup1'' : Egg Group 1
*''egggroup2'' : Egg Group 2
*''eggcycles'' : How many Egg cycles it takes for an Egg to hatch.
*''height-ftin'' : Imperial height
*''height-m'' : Metric height
*''height-ftin2'' : Form 2 imperial height
*''height-m2'' : Form 2 metric height
*''height-ftin3'' : Form 3 imperial height
*''height-m3'' : Form 3 metric height
*''weight-lbs'' : Imperial weight
*''weight-kg'' : Metric weight
*''weight-lbs2'' : Form 2 imperial weight
*''weight-kg2'' : Form 2 metric weight
*''weight-lbs3'' : Form 3 imperial weight
*''weight-kg3'' : Form 3 metric weight
*''expyield'' : Experience yield
*''oldexp'' : Experience yield prior to Gen V
*''g4exp'' : Experience yield in Gen IV, if Pokémon is available ''and'' has a different yield prior to Gen IV.
*''lv100exp'' : Total experience required to reach level 100. Sets levelling rate.
*''evforms'' : Number of forms which have different EV yield.
*''evtotal'' : Total EV yield
*''evhp'' : HP EV yield
*''evat'' : Attack EV yield
*''evde'' : Defence EV yield
*''evsa'' : Special attack EV yield
*''evsd'' : Special defence EV yield
*''evsp'' : Speed EV yield
*''evhp2'' : Form 2 HP EV yield
*''evat2'' : Form 2 attack EV yield
*''evde2'' : Form 2 defence EV yield
*''evsa2'' : Form 2 special attack EV yield
*''evsd2'' : Form 2 special defence EV yield
*''evsp2'' : Form 2 speed EV yield
*''evhp3'' : Form 3 HP EV yield
*''evat3'' : Form 3 attack EV yield
*''evde3'' : Form 3 defence EV yield
*''evsa3'' : Form 3 special attack EV yield
*''evsd3'' : Form 3 special defence EV yield
*''evsp3'' : Form 3 speed EV yield
*''evhp4'' : Form 4 HP EV yield
*''evat4'' : Form 4 attack EV yield
*''evde4'' : Form 4 defence EV yield
*''evsa4'' : Form 4 special attack EV yield
*''evsd4'' : Form 4 special defence EV yield
*''evsp4'' : Form 4 speed EV yield
*''body'' : Body style (number)
*''body2'' : Form 2 body style (number)
*''foot2'' : Second footprint file name, not including the leading F or file extension.
*''color'' : Color listed in the Pokédex.
*''formcolors'' : Set to "yes" if any forms have different colors.
*''friendship'' : Base friendship value.
*''pokefordex'' : Name for external links which don't use the standard name or ndex number

Let me know if there are any issues. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 08:09, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

== Tweaks ==

Just wondered if maybe the border should be made 3px, and also, that the border woudl be that if the Pokémon has a secondary type the border would be the same color as the second type. Just so the Pokémon articles keep cohesive with the templates etc. --[[User:S2daam|--samm :D]] 15:07, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
:Also, when I edited Flabébé/Floette/Florges article, there is a mysterious 4 next to one of the images, despite there being no error in the code on the articles (or I seem to be missing) --[[User:S2daam|--samm :D]] 19:17, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

== Hidden Abilities. ==

So Duskull line gained Frisk in G6 (despite being a G4 Ability), while Litwick family got Shadow Tag changed to Infiltrator. There should be something to note that. [[User:Uploader|Uploader]] ([[User talk:Uploader|talk]]) 14:08, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

== Footprint data for X/Y Pokémon ==

I'm not sure if this is technically possibly via MediaWiki, but if it is one could make the footprint area disappear, stretching the body style template if the national dex number is above 649. I propose this to remove all those broken file links. [[User:Pikachu Bros.|Pikachu Bros.]] ([[User talk:Pikachu Bros.|talk]]) 16:06, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
:Yeah, it's certainly possible, and needs to be done. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 21:11, 3 May 2014 (UTC)
::It is possible, but may require some rearranging to implement. I'll speak with the other staff members to see about a solution. [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 21:27, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

== Missing padding for main page text ==

On my end, at least, the infoboxes don't seem to have left-edge padding, causing text in a page to run up to the edge, which makes a bit of text hard to read. I would attempt to fix it, but I am neither very familiar with table formatting, nor do I have the permissions to do so. Can someone who is able to make sure there is enough padding? [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] ([[User talk:TruePikachu|talk]]) 04:23, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

== Hoopa's form changes ==

Would it be possible for someone to please edit the template to account for the names of {{p|Hoopa}}'s [[Form differences#Hoopa|alternate forms]] (similar to [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Template%3APok%C3%A9mon_Infobox&type=revision&diff=1978734&oldid=1954090 what was done] for {{p|Charizard}} and {{p|Mewtwo}}'s dual [[Mega Evolution]]s)? The correct form names are "Hoopa Confined" and "Hoopa Unbound", though as it is now, the template displays them as "Confined Hoopa" and "Unbound Hoopa".

[[User:Xérnéas|Xérnéas]] ([[User talk:Xérnéas|talk]]) 22:46, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

== How do the heights of the boxes in this template work? ==

Hi, sorry for asking a question like this, but I wonder, how do you make it so that the boxes that display the stats are the same height no matter what, in every resolution, browser and zoom %? For example, in the [[Sylveon (Pokémon)]] page, the gender and the catch rate boxes [the white boxes that contain the actual information] are the exact same size--symmetrical--even though the "Gender" box is larger than the "Catch rate" box; I assume that the "Catch rate" box automatically adjusted to the same height as the "Gender" box. How do you do this? I can't seem to find a solution for this problem that's in another wiki I'm part of. Over on that wiki, whenever one box has more info than the one next to it, they don't automatically adjust, and the only solution would be to add exact pixel heights, which would be unbelievably cumbersome for over 2,000 pages. I hope you find the time to answer my question, and if you don't want to, I understand. Thanks! ♥ [[User:493Darkrai|493Darkrai]] ([[User talk:493Darkrai|talk]]) 01:11, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

== Some updates ==

I just want to leave this somewhere it will hopefully be easy to remember. There are a couple things that need updating in this template. Whenever an update becomes convenient (perhaps whenever Gen VII info like the Pokedex/region name is added), hopefully these can be incorporated.

;Form names
Some Pokemon like {{p|Hoopa}} should properly have "backwards" form names to how most other form names are constructed. The simple solution would be to just do something like replace
<pre>
{{{forme4|}}} {{{name|{{{tmname|}}}}}}
</pre>
With:
<pre>{{{override4|{{{forme4|}}} {{{name|{{{tmname|}}}}}}}}}</pre>
(Or what-have-you. And that for each forme1-5 parameter, and perhaps forme6 for good measure.)

;Hatch time
The hatch time has been wrong for a while (but then, so was [[Egg cycle]]). To fix this, these two pieces of code:
<pre>
{{#expr:{{{eggcycles|0}}}*255}}
{{#expr:({{{eggcycles|0}}}*255)+254}}
</pre>
Should be changed to:
<pre>
{{#expr: 257*{{{eggcycles|0}}}}}
{{#expr: 257*{{{eggcycles|0}}}+256}}
</pre>

[[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:53, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
:As a couple of more trivial suggestions, I think it might be nice to change <code><nowiki>{{tt|*|Not legitimately obtainable as an Egg}}</nowiki></code> to <code><nowiki> Egg not obtainable</nowiki></code> just so that's not hidden (for smartphone users and such); and just for a sort of consistency, <code><nowiki>Undiscovered group</nowiki></code> could be changed to <code><nowiki>Undiscovered</nowiki></code> (this is shown if ''egggroupn'' is set to 0, but without that, Egg Groups are just displayed like "Field" and "Undiscovered"). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:58, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
::I am wondering if the parameters have been passed wrongly in some of the existing articles of legendary Pokemon? {{p|Hoopa}}, for example, passes
<pre>
egggroupn=1 |
egggroup1=Undiscovered |
</pre>
::while if <code>egggroupn</code> was 0 in the first place, <code>egggroup1</code> would not be necessary and would be automatically filled in by the template, along with the "not obtainable as egg" text. [[User:Chenzw|Chenzw]] ([[User talk:Chenzw|talk]]) 05:02, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
:::They're not exactly wrong. But at any rate, I'd ask you to just leave those ''egggroup1'' parameters for now for the possibility of the changes below. =P (Hell, I should probably just make my own userpage for this template.)
:::Perhaps Ditto/Ditto's Egg Group could also receive a similar note when ''egggroupn'' is set to 0... <code><nowiki>|0=[[Undiscovered (Egg Group)|Undiscovered group]]</nowiki></code> could be removed (it'll fall through to call on ''egggroup1'') along with <code><nowiki>=[[Category:Undiscovered group Pokémon]]</nowiki></code> (the 0 case will then be grouped with 1, and work the same so long as ''egggroup1'' has been set.
:::(Also, the Egg Group categories line could be shorter just by using <code><nowiki>
[[Category:{{{egggroup1}}} group Pokémon]] {{#ifeq: {{{egggroupn|0}}}|2|[[Category:{{{egggroup2}}} group Pokémon]]}}</nowiki></code> instead... Again, so long as ''egggroup1'' has been set.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:22, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
::::I've mocked up the changes above at [[User:Tiddlywinks/Pokémon Infobox]], excluding the form override (I'll set about just reworking that entirely later so we just need a parameter for each full form name). You can test it on any species pages by substituting my userspace template name and previewing (it might be quickest to just copy the template call to an empty/dummy page and preview there).
::::Removing the ''Not legitimately obtainable as an Egg'' note from hovertext kind of required an extra parser function to work (perhaps) best, so it may be preferred to leave out that extra #ifeq and the change to the note... [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:40, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

== Alola Dex==

Since the Alola Pokédex is split up into areas like the Kalos dex, should this template be updated to allow for specifying the dex region? [[User:N. Onymous|N. Onymous]] ([[User talk:N. Onymous|talk]]) 23:19, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
:Pokemon can be in multiple island dexes. That would just get too messy to be worth anything. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:17, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
::Besides the official numbering from the original Alola Pokédex list remains the same despite the how the Pokémon are listed in each of the different four variants such as Pikipek remaining listed as 010 despite being presented first for the other three variants and therefore unlike Kalos each area does not have it's own separate numbering, which unfortunately renders this unnecessary. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] ([[User talk:Tyler53841|talk]]) 07:19, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

== body style ==

zygarde has 3 body style due to its forme. can someone update the template so we can add the third forme in? the current template only support 2 body style. -[[User:Pokeant|Pokeant]] ([[User talk:Pokeant|talk]]) 02:52, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

== Is the catch probability still accurate in Generation VI? ==

It is noted in the '[[Catch rate#Capture method (Generation VI)|Catch rate]]' page that the formula was changed to make the catch probability approximately the same as in Generation V, which only did three shake checks instead of four. Thus, wouldn't the probabilities be slightly higher than those indicated by this template?

For example, the probability of catching a fully healthy [[Pidgey]] with a [[Poké Ball|basic Poké Ball]] works out to 43.9%, not 33.3%.

- [[User:Andrio Celos|Andrio Celos]] ([[User talk:Andrio Celos|talk]]) 09:56, 23 April 2017 (UTC)
:I haven't done the numbers, but I think that article says that basically, the lowered shake probability (exactly) makes up for an additional shake check, so that the overall catch probability remains largely unchanged. I imagine you've just made an error somewhere in your calculation!? [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 11:15, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

:: Generation V changed the system so that three shake checks were done instead of four. The success chance of each shake check is almost exactly the same ((a/256)^(1/4)). This means that the chance of catching a Pokémon actually increased a little ((a/256)^(3/4)), compared to Generation IV.
:: Generation VI does four shake checks again, but the success chance of each shake check was increased ((a/256)^(3/16)) so that the overall chance of catching the Pokémon didn't change ((a/256)^(3/4)).
:: - [[User:Andrio Celos|Andrio Celos]] ([[User talk:Andrio Celos|talk]]) 14:06, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

== Catch rate formula error ==

Like Generation V, the catch probability for an ordinary Poké Ball at full HP in Generation VI–VII is very nearly (C / 765)^.75, where C is the species catch rate. However, the formula used in the infobox — C/255 * 1/3 — does not include the exponent. This means the probability given is lower than the actual probability; for instance, Pokémon with a catch rate of 30 are listed as having a 3.9% chance to be caught, when the correct value 8.8%.

To correct this, I'm pretty sure the line just needs to be changed from

<nowiki>| {{#iferror: {{#expr:{{{catchrate|Unknown}}} - 1}}|Unknown|{{{catchrate|3}}} ({{tt|{{#expr: ({{{catchrate|3}}}/255 * 1/3 * 100) round 1}}%|When an ordinary Poké Ball is thrown at full health}})}}</nowiki>

to

<nowiki>| {{#iferror: {{#expr:{{{catchrate|Unknown}}} - 1}}|Unknown|{{{catchrate|3}}} ({{tt|{{#expr: (({{{catchrate|3}}}/765)^.75 * 100) round 1}}%|When an ordinary Poké Ball is thrown at full health}})}}</nowiki>

[[User:Randomwaffle23|Randomwaffle23]] ([[User talk:Randomwaffle23|talk]]) 22:31, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

== Why hasn't this template been updated for USUM yet? ==

Pokemon Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon have been out for two months now. This template still hasn't been updated for those games. What gives? [[User:MasterBraixen96|MasterBraixen96]] ([[User talk:MasterBraixen96|talk]]) 21:34, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
:Bumping this. This and the held items template are still outdated, and should be relatively easy to update.[[User:Lanthanum|Lanthanum]] ([[User talk:Lanthanum|talk]]) 17:48, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
:7 months and still nothing. I think it's time for an update. [[User:Oneofthosedf|Oneofthosedf]] ([[User talk:Oneofthosedf|talk]]) 19:59, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
:: It hasn't been updated as we are working on moving the numbers to the Pokedex boxes. The technicalities of this are taking slightly longer then expected. --[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] ([[User talk:Spriteit|talk]]) 08:16, 12 June 2018 (UTC)

== Kanto Pokedex expansion ==

I think that Kanto formula should be updated, as in LGPE Meltan and Melmetal are respectively #152 and #153. [[User:Asmod96|Asmod96]] ([[User talk:Asmod96|talk]]) 01:00, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

The problem is that there's no kanto variable. Changing the <nowiki>{{{ndex|000}}} to {{{ndex|{{{kpedex|000}}}}}}</nowiki> in
The problem is that there's no kanto variable. Changing the <nowiki>{{{ndex|000}}} to {{{ndex|{{{kantodex|000}}}}}}</nowiki> in
<pre><nowiki>| style="{{#ifexpr: {{{ndex|999}}} < 152||display: none;}}" | <nowiki>#</nowiki>{{{ndex|000}}} [[List of Pokémon by Kanto Pokédex number|Kanto]]</nowiki></pre>

And

<pre><nowiki>{{#ifexpr: {{{ndex|999}}} < 152|[[Category:Pokémon in the Kanto Pokédex|{{{ndex|}}}]]}}</nowiki></pre>
to
<pre><nowiki>{{#if: {{{kantodex|}}}|[[Category:Pokémon in the Kanto Pokédex|{{{kantodex|}}}]]|{{#ifexpr: {{{ndex|999}}} < 152|[[Category:Pokémon in the Kanto Pokédex|{{{ndex|}}}]]}}}}</nowiki></pre>

...would basically do it, I think (kantodex since kdex is taken by Kalos). If a different category was wanted for the two Pokemon in question (ala Black 2/White 2 having separate categories from Black/White), it would even be simpler since you just add another line to the second part rather than messing with an extra #if. - [[User:Reboot|Reboot]] ([[User talk:Reboot|talk]]) 18:33, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

PS: I can't remove the messed-up copy/paste error in the first line of my own post? Seriously? - [[User:Reboot|Reboot]] ([[User talk:Reboot|talk]]) 18:35, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

Template talk:Pokémon Infobox

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Talk:Meltan (Pokémon)

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==Generational status==
[https://old.reddit.com/r/TheSilphRoad/comments/9ihip7/ According to Joe Merrick], Meltan is treated internally as if it were part of Generation VII, but that does not necessarily mean that it ''is'' part of Generation VII. Am I correct in saying that its generational status is unconfirmed at this time? [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 14:31, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
:I'm pretty sure Bulbapedia doesn't consider "treated internally" to mean much of anything, judging by the way folks handled the question of which Gen VII Pokémon are Legendary. Unless Meltan itself becomes available in a game that's definitely Gen VII or definitely Gen VIII, we should hold off on classifying it one way or the other. — [[User:Randomwaffle23|Randomwaffle23]] ([[User talk:Randomwaffle23|talk]]) 15:18, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
::That being the case, considering sources have cited that it is introduced in Let's Go and conventions state that Let's Go is part of Gen VII, it would probably be similar in case to that of the USUM exclusive Legends/UBs.
::On the other hand, what if it stands as a cameo appearance in Let's Go (ala Munchlax, Bonsly, and Lucario in Rescue Team)? Would conventions point it to a Gen VIII label instead?
::— [[User:Lanthanum|Lanthanum]] ([[User talk:Lanthanum|talk]]) 15:52, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
:::I honestly think Meltan counts as a Gen 7 Pokémon. Since it was introduced in a Gen 7 Game and not as of yet the unknown Gen 8 game , plus they have not officially stated it for the moment. Heck the Mythical Pokémon section on here conspired it a Gen 7 Pokémon. For now I think it should stay that under Generation 7 section for the time until the game are fully released and explains it properly.--[[User:Jacob9594|Jacob Kogan]] ([[User talk:Jacob9594|talk]]) 17:51, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
Are we waiting until its National Dex number is confirmed before calling it a Gen 7 Pokemon? We have all the other proof: available in a main series game considered Gen 7 by Bulbapedia; available in a main series game released between Sun/Moon and 2019. — [[User:Crunchdog29|Crunchdog29]] ([[User talk:Crunchdog29|talk]]) 23:19, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
:We're waiting on what the official sources say. Its dex number isn't going to be of any help, since the USUM Ultra Beasts comes after the first SM mons.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:03, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
::That's assuming that Meltan is placed between the Gen 7 and Gen 8 Pokémon. If they place him among other G8 Pokémon, surely that would mean that he's officially considered part of that Gen. - [[User:Golden Trainer|Golden Trainer]] ([[User talk:Golden Trainer|talk]]) 21:26, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
:::Regardless of its generational status, although it's more than likely that they're Gen VII Pokémon due to making their mainline debut in LGPE, [https://twitter.com/JoeMerrick/status/1055928496344711169 datamining of Go's traffic network by the same guy who initially discovered Meltan has found their dex numbers to be 808 and 809]. [[User:Azureprism|Azureprism]] ([[User talk:Azureprism|talk]]) 07:03, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

==Trivia piece==
Can someone add the following as trivia:
* Meltan is tied with {{alo|Diglett}} and {{p|Klefki}} as the [[List of Pokémon by height|shortest]] {{type|Steel}} Pokémon.

Please and thank you. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 18:11, 25 September 2018 (UTC)

== Additional Info ==

The Let's Go site
[https://pokemonletsgo.pokemon.com/en-us/new-pokemon/]
has a bunch of new info. Someone with write access please add. [[User:Mtmerrick|Mtmerrick]] ([[User talk:Mtmerrick|talk]]) 18:42, 25 September 2018 (UTC)

== More additional info ==

Add "It is currently unknown if it [[Evolution|evolves]] into or from another Pokémon.", just below what the top text says. [[User:Wrrasba|Wrrasba]] ([[User talk:Wrrasba|talk]]) 21:55, 25 September 2018 (UTC)

==Suggestion for some more additional info==
===In side games===
Meltan first appeared as a disguised [[Ditto (Pokémon)|Ditto]] in [[Pokémon GO]] immediately after the conclusion of the [[Chikorita (Pokémon)|Chikorita]] [[Community Day (Pokémon GO)|Community Day]] on September 22nd 2018 in the Asia-Pacific region when it was widely in the wild available for 30 minutes. The same phenomenon repeated itself at the conclusion of the other 2 regions' respective community days later on that day. After his initial appearance in the Asia-Pacific region, Meltan-disguised Ditto remained available in the wild as a rare spawn worldwide. On September 25th 2018, official announcement revealing the name of this new Pokémon was published in-game and on the official Pokémon GO website<ref>[https://pokemongolive.com/en/post/meltan-announcement/ Trainers from all over the world have reported sightings of a mysterious Pokémon!]</ref>.

===In other media===
On September 25th 2018, publications on the official Twitter pages of The Pokémon Company<ref>[https://twitter.com/Pokemon The Pokémon Company official Twitter]</ref>, Pokémon GO<ref>[https://twitter.com/PokemonGoApp Pokémon GO official Twitter]</ref> and Nintendo of America<ref>[https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica Nintendo of America official Twitter]</ref> revealed facts about Meltan, including its name, type, height and weight. Later on that day the Official Pokémon YouTube channel<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/user/pokemon The Official Pokémon YouTube channel]</ref> also released a video were [[Professor Willow]] contacts his mentor [[Professor Oak]] to discuss about the new species discovered<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvLDA70ZvbU The Two Professors Episode 1: A New Pokémon Has Been Discovered!] on YouTube</ref>.

Thanks. [[User:JaxomNC|JaxomNC]] ([[User talk:JaxomNC|talk]]) 22:03, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
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== Additional info ==

Can someone add that Meltan is tied with Land Forme Shaymin as the shortest Mythical Pokémon in the trivia? Please? [[User:Pika fanatic|Pika fanatic]] ([[User talk:Pika fanatic|talk]]) 23:11, 25 September 2018 (UTC)

:I concur. This hasn't been added in yet. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 02:49, 27 September 2018 (UTC)

Considering Meltan uses electricity, I think his tail with the two ends is supposed to be an electric plug. [[User:Eevee-Girl|Eevee-Girl]] ([[User talk:Eevee-Girl|talk]]) 06:34, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
:: I think it's more like a cut electrical wire, since the ends are too thin to be plugs. I believe the concept comes from an electromagnet, with the cord attaching to the metal nut to create a magnetic field within the "head" in which its eye is floating. [[User:Yoriven|Yoriven]] ([[User talk:Yoriven|talk]]) 07:35, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
::: That might make more sense! Although Japanese plug ends are very thin and flat. [[User:Eevee-Girl|Eevee-Girl]] ([[User talk:Eevee-Girl|talk]]) 09:03, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

== Name Origin ==

What exactly is Meltan's name origin? I assume that the "Melt" part comes from its liquid body but what about the rest? It might need adding. '''Ice''' [[User talk:The IceCream|Cream]] 14:45, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
:It's already on the page. [[User:ArcToraphim|Kai]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 16:15, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
::Oh it was? Ah, must have missed it. '''Ice''' [[User talk:The IceCream|Cream]] 19:29, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

== Nuts and Bolts ==
Can someone change the "hexagonal bolt" in the Biology paragraph to say "hexagonal nut"? A bolt is what would go into the nut. Someone got it right in the Origin section but not in Biology. [[User:Yoriven|Yoriven]] ([[User talk:Yoriven|talk]]) 13:34, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

== Meltan's New Form ==

It seems like Meltan is going to have a new form!

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVbH3pNuipc

[[User:RieHatori|RieHatori]] ([[User talk:RieHatori|talk]]) 03:12, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
:I won't speculate but seeing a bunch of them merge into one kind of reminds me of Zygarde's forms. Now I want to know what all happens when they transform, should be interesting. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 03:24, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
:: According to Serebii's Joe Merrick, it's most likely an evolution- https://twitter.com/JoeMerrick/status/1050279215936008194 [[User:Yoriven|Yoriven]] ([[User talk:Yoriven|talk]]) 16:14, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
::: Someone's at work on Melmetal's page, I presume? [[User:Monchi132390|Monchi132390]] ([[User talk:Monchi132390|talk]]) 14:17, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

== National Dex number. ==

Shouldn't we add the National Dex number for Meltan and Melmetal? According to network traffic from Pokémon Go, the National Dex numbers for them are #808 and #809, respectively. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] ([[User talk:Weedle Mchairybug|talk]]) 10:25, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

::It's official, Meltan and Melmetal are 808 and 809 respectively. Source: https://reddit.com/r/TheSilphRoad/comments/9x3ong/melmetal_in_pokedex_by_chrales — [[User:Rmkane|Rmkane]] ([[User talk:Rmkane|talk]]) 22:04, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

:::People are reporting that Meltan and Melmetal are 152 and 153 respectively in LGPE Kanto Pokedex, shouldn't it be added? [[User:Asmod96|Asmod96]] ([[User talk:Asmod96|talk]]) 10:02, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

::::Probably, but there doesn't currently appear to be a Kanto Dex variable separate from the National Dex variable. Someone will need to edit the template first. - [[User:Reboot|Reboot]] ([[User talk:Reboot|talk]]) 18:10, 27 November 2018 (UTC)