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Talk:Cheren

2012-10-29T04:32:51Z

Professorbel: /* Alternate Gym Leader Title? */ new section

==Animated Sprite==
[http://i.imgur.com/dbEPJ.gif Here's] an animated sprite I made. It's not perfect, but at least it's better than the current static image. --[[User:SpeedSuicune|SpeedSuicune]] 16:20, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

==Unprotect==
This article should be unprotected and created now that enough information is known. --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 01:12, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
:[[User:Umeko/Cheren|Behold.]] It's in the works. It's ''been'' in the works. It'll be moved when it's ready. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 01:14, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

==Черен==
"Черен" means "black" in Russian also. [[User:Kikugi|Kikugi]] 08:23, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
:Nope. Russian for black is {{tt|чёрный|Chornyi}}. I'm learning the language. Also, I think that rather than wondering what language is it taken from, we should say that it's actually a SLAVIC root. Russian, Bulgarian, Polish, Czech, Serbian, Ukrainian etc. - those are all Slavic languages and the words for "black" and "white" are very similar in all of them, as they all came from the same Proto-Slavic root. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 09:47, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
::So isn't "черен" a short form of "чёрный" like "бел" (Bel) is a short form of "белый"? [[User:Kikugi|Kikugi]] 10:27, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
:::Well, it's possible. But such forms seem to be very rarely used and somewhat obsolete. I really think that it's hard to specify what language are the names Bel and Cheren derived from. Both are from common Slavonic roots běl- and čĭrn- which evolved differently in respective languages. I'm a linguist (not a professional yet but studying and striving to become one), so if you've got questions about such thing, then call me. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 10:44, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
::::Well, thanks :) [[User:Kikugi|Kikugi]] 13:53, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
::::Russian here. "Черен" is never used in common speach term for "black in coloration". --[[User:ЫъГЬ|ЫъГЬ]] 15:55, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

== Starter choice ==

Pokebeach has confirmed that Cheren chooses the starter strong against yours. --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 20:01, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

== yeah about the manga info ==

the chapter's already out and Cheren does appear in it with Pokabu (Pokabu only uses Ember in thc chapter) so the line should be changed so that it's current [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 05:18, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:Changed, thanks. I only knew about the preview on CoroCoro's site... I didnt realize the chapter was already released. --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 05:25, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
::also Wargle makes an appearance too(belonging to some old guy), more info is on the forums along with (not so good) pictures of it... [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 05:56, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

== Hair ==

Shouldn't we note that Cheren has black hair (or at least, dark hair), corresponding to the name and Bel vice versa with lighter hair?-[[User talk:444Zekrom|444]][[User:444Zekrom|Z]][[Zekrom|ekrom]] 06:57, 04 September 2010 (UTC)

== Rival? ==

Could Cheren be the player's rival? [[User:Ruberduck0123|'''Ruber''']][[User talk:Ruberduck0123|'''duck''']][[Special:Contributions/Ruberduck0123|'''0123''']] 06:47, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
:I think he and Bel would both count as the player's rivals. I wonder why it's not included on the page in any way. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 11:33, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

== wrong sprite ==

the sprite used is the sprite shown in the intro after naming your character. the sprite used in battle is different. same with bel. -[[User:Pokeant|Pokeant]] 06:53, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

==Question==
So, we only battle him 3 times, Bel 3 times, with the starters they chose un-evovled?
[[User:Da'Chimchar Fan|Da'Chimchar Fan]] 19:10, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
:[[File:050Diglett.png|50px]] This article is incomplete. Please feel free to edit this article to add missing sections and complete it. '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 19:19, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

== 3rd battle ==
Info about third battle here and in [[Unova Route 3]] is contradactory (Tepig's level, Oshawott's item and moveset), so which one is right? Haven't checked other battles. --[[User:ЫъГЬ|ЫъГЬ]] 15:55, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
:A few things with my battle were contradictory too. I chose Snivy, and instead of scratch, the purrloin knew fury swipes instead.-[[User:Ivy73|Ivy]][[User talk:Ivy73|73]][[File:002MS.png]] 16:30, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

== 8th battle ==

Hi, the link on the 8th battle goes to the Victory Road disambiguation page. Shouldn't it go to the Unova victory road page? I tried changing it, but i'm not that familiar with the code here and buggered it up, so i changed it back to what it was again. If anyone could do that, it's be great. Cheers [[User:Migrant|Migrant]] 00:52, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
: The party template coding might need to be updated. I personally don't know how, but for now, I've fixed the link. --[[User:Rockersk08|rock]][[User talk:Rockersk08|ersk]][[Special:Contributions/Rockersk08|08]] 01:01, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

==Title color==
The text above Cheren's artwork is on a dark-grey background. In some screens it's hard to read (some LCDs, for example). Is there a way to change the text color to white? [[User:Duke R|Duke R]] 14:58, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
:New comments to the bottom please. Also, I've changed it. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 08:55, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

==Should Quotes be added?==
I was thinking of getting the quotes for Cheren, Bianca and Professor Juniper; seeing as most of the other important NPCs in Unova have Quotes sections. I thought I'd better ask first, though, if anyone else thinks this would be a good idea- considering the fact that these three NPCs, Cheren in particular, have **A LOT** of quotes and this might possibly add *too much* to the pages. Any opinions on this, before I spend the rest of the week working on this? [or indeed in case anyone else might be already working on this?] [[User:ShiningSteelix|ShiningSteelix]] 15:05, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

==Komor is Hungarian????==
The article says that Cheren's Italian name, Komor means black in Hungarian. Well, that's totally wrong. There is a Hungarian word "komor", but it means "grim", not black. Black is "fekete" in Hungarian. If it's meant to be a pun on "korom", which is not that likely, it means soot, which is a black substance, but I suppose this name has nothing to do with Hungarian. BTW I am Hungarian. [[User:Prospekt|Prospekt]] 11:14, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

:I changed it to gloomy for the time being. If anyone finds something that's better and actually exists, feel free to change it though. [[User:Prospekt|Prospekt]] 18:58, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

==Trivia, Pokémon, or not add?==

On Route 1 at the start Bianca challenges you and Cheren to capture the most Pokémon and she claims both her and Cheren have 2 Pokémon. Does this mean that Cheren caught a Patrat/Lillipup and then immediately boxed/released it as it is never on his team? And should this be featured on the page at all? If so where? [[User:Wexdarn|Wexdarn]] 21:45, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
:  I always figured it meant he somehow managed to obtain his Purrloin on Route 1. But, as for mention in the article, it doesn't really seem all that notable to be put into the article... --'''[[Special:Contributions/Zordon123456789mlw7|Azurill]][[User talk:Zordon123456789mlw7|glow2]][[User:Zordon123456789mlw7|mlw7]]''' 05:02, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

== Contacts==

CoroCoro shows him without glasses in Black & White 2, also as a Normal-type Gym Leader, so I guess he replaces Lenora, and gets contacts? [[User:Pringles|プリングルズ/品客薯片/ప్రింగిల్స్]] 03:44, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

:Just because he no longer wears glasses, does not mean that he has contacts. [[User:Rai Marshall|Rai Marshall]] 04:44, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

::Ok, though it's really hard to see if you wore glasses before. Just saying. [[User:Pringles|''プリングルズ/'']][[User talk:Pringles|品客薯片/ప్రింగిల్స్]] 01:36, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

== Black and White 2 ==

Cheren is now a Normal-type Gym Leader, replacing Lenora and giving out the Basic Badge. He is the first Gym Leader.
Source: [http://pokebeach.com/2012/05/corocoro-leaks-new-b2w2-anime-and-tcg-info]

Should we add this to the page? Or wait for CoroCoro's official release?
[[User:Kookamooka|Kookamooka]] 11:05, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
:Actually, it has already been added to the infobox. And please, never use fansites like Pokébeach as a source; [[n:CoroCoro reveals new information on Black 2 and White 2|we've reported it on Bulbanews]] anyway. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:31, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

== Show/Hide ==

Shouldn't we do the show/hide thing for the battles, cuz it's goin' kinda long. It might help if you can read '''First Battle''' and click the "show", etc. [[User:Pringles|''プリングルズ/'']][[User talk:Pringles|品客薯片/ప్రింగిల్స్]] 01:38, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

== OK, we got a slight problem. ==

There are too many templates. Seems when {{u|‎Marked +-+-+}} added the Tag Partner template for B2W2, it caused the page to have one template too many. Now the ones at the bottom won't load, and when I previewed, I got a message that said "Warning: Template include size is too large. Some templates will not be included." Guess we'll need to make a subpage? [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 22:33, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
:Sounds like a plan stan, but keep his Gym Leader team template so he'll match the other leaders. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 22:36, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
::Done and done. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 22:41, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

== Wrong sprite ==

The Cheren's overworld sprite from BW2 is not the same with the one from BW. Just look at this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMjsBZSeUqM . [[User:Caciulacdlac|Caciulacdlac]] ([[User talk:Caciulacdlac|talk]]) 10:22, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
:See the one below the BW overworld sprite.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 10:28, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
::Yes, it's the same sprite from BW. We need to use the new sprite shown in that picture:[[File:Aspertia Gym Summer.png]] [[User:Caciulacdlac|Caciulacdlac]] ([[User talk:Caciulacdlac|talk]]) 12:00, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
[[File:Cheren BW OD.png|thumb|left|BW]][[File:Cheren OD.png|thumb|left|B2W2]]
<nowiki>*</nowiki>sigh*--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:13, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

== Wrong Pokemon? ==

So I just did the memory link battle against Cheren on white 2. My starter was Snivy in my original version of White and the team was the exact same. But when I did the memory link battle his monkey was Simipour not Simisage. His starter was still emboar and bianca's memory link team was the same. Did my game just glitch or something? [[User:Yug18-11|Yug18-11]] ([[User talk:Yug18-11|talk]]) 18:28, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
:His team has done this in the JP versions as well, and honestly I'm a little confused why it hasn't been fixed on the page yet. Not sure if it's just a coding mix-up or what, but regardless. My memory linked file had a different starter distribution between the three of them, so I don't think it's tied to that, as a note. [[User:Professorbel|Professorbel]] ([[User talk:Professorbel|talk]]) 04:26, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

== Alternate Gym Leader Title? ==

The gym sign post has a different translation of the title than the badge case. It reads "The one who seeks the right path." (period included, all lowercase except the T). This also happens with the other two new leader's sign posts, but not the old gym leader's. I guess this would either go under trivia or something like that? (as a note, the other new gym sign posts are, in order, "Poison days, poison on the stage!" and "More Splash than the Sea") [[User:Professorbel|Professorbel]] ([[User talk:Professorbel|talk]]) 04:32, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Cheren

2012-10-29T04:26:47Z

Professorbel: /* Wrong Pokemon? */

Talk:Pokémon Black 2 and White 2 beta

2012-08-31T20:09:43Z

Professorbel: /* Medals */ new section

==Wait==
...I did meet him in Castelia. [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 15:36, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
:In my Black 2 I didn't met him until Route 4. However I don't recall meeting him in my White 2 either. Is it possible that it is version exclusive or post-game? [[User:Lady Ariel|Lady Ariel]] ([[User talk:Lady Ariel|talk]]) 16:12, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
::I am not sure, it might be after the Route 4, I had 3 badges then. [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 16:50, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
:::A few days ago I double checked the location show in the image in my Black 2 and nothing happened. It might be after Route 4, but I never went back to Castelia in my Black 2 once I went to Route 4. I think this might need further investigation then. [[User:Lady Ariel|Lady Ariel]] ([[User talk:Lady Ariel|talk]]) 17:10, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

== Not worth its own page ==

Can't this just go in the trivia for [[Colress]]? It would simplify everything. After all, it's only one sentence. [[User:Zorocario|Zorocario]] ([[User talk:Zorocario|talk]]) 22:07, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
:This page will eventually have to be created for the beta from the games, though. However should we do similar things for the other beta games then? Also once people go through the codes of the game, there will be more details. [[User:Lady Ariel|Lady Ariel]] ([[User talk:Lady Ariel|talk]]) 22:32, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
::I doubt there is any beta left to unravel for B2W2. But I guess we at least should wait until the international releases come out. [[User:Zorocario|Zorocario]] ([[User talk:Zorocario|talk]]) 03:22, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

== Candidate for deletion ==

This page have only a beta element, what is obviously false: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDfOlBBPHaM . It must be deleted. [[User:Caciulacdlac|Caciulacdlac]] ([[User talk:Caciulacdlac|talk]]) 15:11, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

== TCRF claims ==

[http://tcrf.net/Pok%C3%A9mon_Black_2_and_White_2 TCRF] claims that the God Stone plus a number of other old key items, ones that have been used and some unused ones, remain in these games' code in image form at least. If that can be confirmed, it would seem appropriate for this page. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|'''Miles''']] ([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|talk]]) 21:57, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
:If someone can find the images in the games coding then they are encouraged to add them here. Still curious as to what the God Stone was meant to be for. Possibly Kyurem would have been sealed in that stone and unlocked through an event or something? ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 23:11, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
::Ghetsis uses a gray stone that transforms into the Gene Wedge during the final battle, when he creates Kyurem's forme. I doubt it's the God Stone but it's a lead... --[[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] ([[User talk:The Great Butler|talk]]) 01:09, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
:::Looking at the stone used, it looks very similar in design. Maybe the God Stone was a beta design? ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 01:31, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

== Medals ==

The bit about the medals is incorrect. The most recently obtained medals do shine like that the first time you open the medal box since receiving them. It's a bit hard to time taking a picture, but here's one I took of my game [[http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab77/nyaronchan/b2w2007.jpg]] You can see the stars on medals 017 and 019. [[User:Professorbel|Professorbel]] ([[User talk:Professorbel|talk]]) 20:09, 31 August 2012 (UTC)