Talk:Grand Underground

2021-12-05T21:21:01Z

Prismatic:

== Help ==
So I just joined because I wanted to get some information about the Grand underground, like more in-depth stuff that what is different than the Sinnoh underground. I am willing to provide pictures of Items in the underground, but I don't really know where to get started.
Jus hoping some person wanders along and can help me. --[[User:Prismatic|Prismatic]] ([[User talk:Prismatic|talk]]) 02:52, 26 November 2021 (UTC)

== Merge? ==
I think it's unfortunate that this articles starts with differences to the topic of another article ([[the Underground]]). I believe both articles should be merged (or shouldn't have been separate in the first place). After all, it's the same place, mostly same mechanics etc., and I think "Grand" is often omitted in in-game in BDSP anyway.

German Pokewiki [[:de:Untergrundhöhlen|has them in one page]], and I think it's way more useful (though not sure if they have the best structure). As I title, I'd suggest just "Underground" (agreeing with PalePrism at [[Talk:The Underground#Move]]), but "Grand Underground" and "Sinnoh Underground" would be fine as well. What do others think? [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 11:51, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

So I do think this does sound like it could work, Im just wondering how we would format the page?--[[User:Prismatic|Prismatic]] ([[User talk:Prismatic|talk]]) 21:20, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Grand Underground

2021-12-01T05:36:41Z

Prismatic:

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|location_name=Grand Underground
|japanese_name={{tt|地下大洞窟|ちかだいどうくつ}}
|translated_name=Grand Underground Cave
|location=Beneath [[Sinnoh]]
|region=Sinnoh
|generation={{gen|VIII}}
|map=sinnoh.png
}}
The '''Grand Underground''' (Japanese: '''{{tt|地下大洞窟|ちかだいどうくつ}}''' ''Grand Underground Cave'') is an area in {{g|Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl}} found beneath the entire [[Sinnoh]] [[region]]. Players can travel to the Grand Underground using an [[Explorer Kit]], found in [[Eterna City]].

It takes the place of [[the Underground]] from {{game2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}.

==Changes from Diamond and Pearl==
[[File:Grand Underground BDSP.png|thumb|300px|{{ga|Lucas}} and {{ga|Dawn}} in the Grand Underground]]
* The map now conforms to the shape of the Sinnoh landmass instead of a large square layout. Notably, it excludes [[Iron Island]], [[Fullmoon Island]], and {{rt|223|Sinnoh}} onwards.
* The map is still split into six disjoint areas like the original Underground, but the sizes and locations of the six areas do not match those of the original Underground.
* Areas now include Pokémon Hideaways, and each area now corresponds to a different aesthetic environment.
** At least two areas include surfable water. These hideaways are the Swampy Cave and the Lakeside Cave.
* The digging minigame returns following closely to its original incarnation with the exception of digging up Pokémon statues, which come from Stone Boxes. There are at least two kinds of Stone Boxes, the common Pretty Stone Boxes and the rare Gorgeous Stone Boxes. Statues acquired from Pretty Stone Boxes are made of normal stone, while statues from Gorgeous Stone Boxes are made of jade. There is a box for each [[type]].
** These statues may seemingly depict [[Shiny Pokémon]], due to the Pokémon's names having the shiny symbol next to it. If at least three statues from Gorgeous Stone Boxes are used, the chances of the desired type appearing are even higher.
* [[Secret Base]]s return and are created using a [[Digger Drill]] as before. Like in the original, a player can only have a single base at a time.
** Bases can only be decorated with statues and pedestals to place them on. Adding more of a specific [[type]] will slightly increase the chances of that type appearing in hideaways. This "Statue Effect" is indicated by the orb place next to the entrance of the player's base. The flag stealing mechanic has also been removed.
* [[Goods]] and [[Traps]], with the sole exception of the Digger Drill, have been removed.
* Spheres no longer have a numerical size and are instead categorized as Small or Large. They can no longer be buried either.
* Instead of goods or traps, merchants (who appear as [[Hiker]]s) in the Grand Underground can exchange treasures and for spheres. Spheres can now be exchanged for pedestals, items, and TMs.
* The radar is now triggered by pressing [R] and searches the area around the player's location.
* The Grand Underground supports online communications, compared to the original games which only supported local communications.
* {{p|Diglett}} and {{p|Dugtrio}} will occasionally pop out and leave pink sparkles that give 1 and 3 points respectively. Accumulating 40 of these points causes "something good to happen" and new digging spots with green sparkles appear that do not need radar to be found. All Stone Boxes found during this will be Gorgeous Stone Boxes. A whistle is heard when this period begins and once more when it ends.
** Leaving the Grand Underground resets the gauge, even if the player return to the same section immediately after.

==Zones==
The Grand Underground is organized into seven zones, with each zone containing Pokémon Hideaways.
* Western
* Eastern
* Central
* Northwestern
* Northeastern
* Southwestern
* Southeastern

===Pokémon Hideaways===
{{incomplete|section|Missing information on encounters available in Grand Underground.<ref>https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ttK1EPd7gKltKcW_W7EAG-tfFGj8PXVH7rtSXXJy5is/edit#gid=77857711</ref>}}
'''Pokémon Hideaways''' (Japanese: '''ポケモンの{{tt|隠|かく}}れ{{tt|家|が}}''' ''Pokémon Hideaway'') are new places where [[wild Pokémon]] can be encountered. Unlike the main overworld, these areas feature [[symbol encounter]]s. Each of the seven areas contain at least one large Hideaway, though multiple, smaller Hideaways are scattered throughout the map. Some Pokémon available in the game can only be found in Hideaways. All Pokémon in the Hideaways will have at least one [[Egg Move]] if applicable, and earning more [[Badge]]s, becoming [[Champion]], and obtaining the [[National Pokédex]] will increase the strength and variety of Pokémon found in the Hideaways. The Grand Underground also unlocks some Egg Moves that are otherwise unobtainable, e.g. {{m|Aura Sphere}} on {{p|Squirtle}}.

* Spacious Caves
* Grassland Caves
* Sunlit Cavern
* Fountainspring Caves
* Rocky Caves
* Big Bluff Cavern
* Volcanic Caves
* Swampy Caves
* Bogsunk Cavern
* Dazzling Caves
* Stargleam Cavern
* Whiteout Caves
* Icy Caves
* Glacial Cavern
* Riverbank Caves
* Still-Water Cavern
* Sandsear Caves
* Typhlo Cavern

==Additional Information==
* There are three types of merchants in the Grand Underground:
** Small sphere merchants allow the player to purchase additional [[Digger Drill]]s, small or medium pedestals, and TMs which change daily.
** Large sphere merchants who offer large or extra large pedestals, and a different set of TMs.
** An item exchange merchant, who will trade spheres in exchange for items that can be dug out. Additionally, he can also be paid to expand a player's [[Secret Base]].
* Some [[Hiker]]s found in the Grand Underground allow the player to rest, acting as a [[Pokémon Center]].
* If the player runs out of digging spots, more will appear once the player enters and exits a Hideaway.
* After the Sinnoh Pokedex is completed Mysterious shards will start appearing in the underground.
** Small and Large shards can be used at Ramanas Park in order to purchase different [[slate]] items.
* The level of Pokémon available in the Grand Underground varies, depending on the number of [[Badge|Gym Badges]] the Player received and their progression in the game.
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|+ Level ranges
|- style="background-color: #{{locationcolor/light|cave}}"
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Progression
! style="{{roundytr|5px}}" | Level Ranges
|- style="background-color: #fff"
| 1 Badge || 16-20
|- style="background-color: #fff"
| 2 Badges || 25-29
|- style="background-color: #fff"
| 3 Badges || 29-33
|- style="background-color: #fff"
| 4 Badges || 33-37
|- style="background-color: #fff"
| 5 Badges || 36-40
|- style="background-color: #fff"
| 6 Badges || 39-43
|- style="background-color: #fff"
| 7 Badges || 42-46
|- style="background-color: #fff"
| 8 Badges || 50-55
|- style="background-color: #fff"
| style="{{roundybl|5px}}" | [[Elite Four]] defeated
| style="{{roundybr|5px}}" | 58-63
|}

==In other languages==
{{langtable|color={{locationcolor/light|cave}}|bordercolor={{locationcolor/dark|cave}}
|zh_yue=地下大洞窟 ''{{tt|Deihhah Daaihduhngfāt|Grand Underground Cave}}''
|zh_cmn=地下大洞窟 ''{{tt|Dìxià Dàdòngkū|Grand Underground Cave}}''
|fr=Grands Souterrains
|de=Untergrundhöhlen
|it=Grandi Sotterranei
|ko=지하대동굴 ''{{tt|Jiha Daedonggul|Grand Underground Cave}}''
|ru=Великое подземелье ''Velikoye podzemel'ye''
|es=Grutas del Subsuelo
}}

''Pokémon Hideaway''
{{langtable|color={{locationcolor/light|grass}}|bordercolor={{locationcolor/dark|grass}}
|zh_yue=寶可夢秘巢 ''{{tt|Pokémon Beichàauh|Pokémon Den}}''
|zh_cmn=寶可夢秘巢 / 宝可梦秘巢 ''{{tt|Pokémon Mìcháo|Pokémon Den}}''
|fr=Cachette de Pokémon
|de=Pokémon-Unterschlupf
|it=Rifugio di Pokémon
|ko=포켓몬 은신처 ''{{tt|Pokémon Eunsincheo|Pokémon Hideaway}}''
|ru=Укрытие Покемонов ''Ukrytiye Pokémonov''
|es=Guarida Pokémon
}}

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[[Category:Sinnoh locations]]
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[[fr:Grands Souterrains]]
[[it:Grandi Sotterranei]]
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Talk:Grand Underground

2021-11-26T02:53:06Z

Prismatic: Created page with "So I just joined because I wanted to get some information about the Grand underground, like more in-depth stuff that what is different than the Sinnoh underground. I am willin..."

So I just joined because I wanted to get some information about the Grand underground, like more in-depth stuff that what is different than the Sinnoh underground. I am willing to provide pictures of Items in the underground, but I don't really know where to get started.
Jus hoping some person wanders along and can help me. --[[User:Prismatic|Prismatic]] ([[User talk:Prismatic|talk]]) 02:52, 26 November 2021 (UTC)

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