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<p>Porygon137: The number 139 was only accurate up to Miraidon; it does not include Pokémon introduced after the beginning of Generation IX (Walking Wake through Pecharunt).</p> <hr /> <div>{{EggGroups}}<br /> The '''No Eggs Discovered Group''' (Japanese: '''タマゴ{{tt|未発見|みはっけん}}グループ''' ''Eggs Never Discovered Group''), known as the '''No &lt;sc&gt;Egg&lt;/sc&gt;s Egg Group''' in [[Pokémon Stadium 2]], and as the '''Undiscovered Egg Group''' in [[Pokédex 3D]], is one of the fifteen [[Egg Group]]s. As of [[Generation IX]], 151 Pokémon belong to this group.<br /> <br /> ==Characteristics==<br /> The No Eggs Discovered Group is characterized by its members' inability to breed. Most of the Pokémon in the group are [[baby Pokémon]], [[Legendary Pokémon]], [[Mythical Pokémon]], [[Ultra Beasts]], or [[Paradox Pokémon]].<br /> <br /> Baby Pokémon are designated for this group due to them being too immature to breed, while Legendary Pokémon, Mythical Pokémon, Ultra Beasts and Paradox Pokémon are included to prevent players from breeding more of them in a given game (with the exception of {{p|Phione}}). Aside from those, both {{p|Nidorina}} and {{p|Nidoqueen}} are in this group (while their respective male counterparts {{p|Nidorino}} and {{p|Nidoking}}, as well as their pre-evolution {{p|Nidoran♀}} and its male counterpart {{p|Nidoran♂}}, are not), as well as {{p|Unown}}, {{p|Gimmighoul}}, {{p|Gholdengo}} and the four chimeric [[Fossil]] Pokémon of [[Galar]]. [[Cosplay Pikachu]], [[Pikachu in a cap]], and {{DL|List of Pokémon with form differences|Greninja|Battle Bond Greninja}} are included here even though others of their species are capable of breeding.<br /> <br /> In [[Pokémon X and Y]], all Pokémon in this group are guaranteed to have a perfect 31 in at least three of their [[individual values]] when caught in the wild or obtained as a gift (except via [[Mystery Gift]]). From [[Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire]] onward, this only applies to Legendary Pokémon, Mythical Pokémon, and Ultra Beasts. However, as of Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire, if the player accepts a [[Gift Pokémon]] belonging to this Egg Group while their lead Pokémon has the [[Ability]] {{a|Synchronize}}, that Gift Pokémon is guaranteed to be of the same [[nature]] as the Synchronize Pokémon (unless the Pokémon was received as an {{pkmn|Egg}} or through [[Mystery Gift]]). This property was extended to other Egg Groups in {{g|Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon}}.<br /> <br /> ==Pokémon==<br /> ===Only in this Egg Group===<br /> {{egglist|{{No Eggs Discovered egg color light}}|{{No Eggs Discovered egg color}}}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0025|Pikachu|1|Electric|form=-Cosplay|formlink=All [[Cosplay Pikachu]] forms}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0025|Pikachu|1|Electric|form=-Original Cap|formlink=All [[Pikachu in a cap]] forms}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0030|Nidorina|1|Poison|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0031|Nidoqueen|2|Poison|Ground|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0144|Articuno|2|Ice|Flying|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0144|Articuno|2|Psychic|Flying|form=-Galar|formlink=[[Galarian form|Galarian Form]]}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0145|Zapdos|2|Electric|Flying|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0145|Zapdos|2|Fighting|Flying|form=-Galar|formlink=[[Galarian form|Galarian Form]]}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0146|Moltres|2|Fire|Flying|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0146|Moltres|2|Dark|Flying|form=-Galar|formlink=[[Galarian form|Galarian Form]]}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0150|Mewtwo|1|Psychic|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0151|Mew|1|Psychic|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0172|Pichu|1|Electric|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0173|Cleffa|1|Fairy|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0174|Igglybuff|2|Normal|Fairy|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0175|Togepi|1|Fairy|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0201|Unown|1|Psychic|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0236|Tyrogue|1|Fighting|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0238|Smoochum|2|Ice|Psychic|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0239|Elekid|1|Electric|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0240|Magby|1|Fire|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0243|Raikou|1|Electric|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0244|Entei|1|Fire|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0245|Suicune|1|Water|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0249|Lugia|2|Psychic|Flying|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0250|Ho-Oh|2|Fire|Flying|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0251|Celebi|2|Psychic|Grass|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0298|Azurill|2|Normal|Fairy|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0360|Wynaut|1|Psychic|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0377|Regirock|1|Rock|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0378|Regice|1|Ice|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0379|Registeel|1|Steel|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0380|Latias|2|Dragon|Psychic|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0381|Latios|2|Dragon|Psychic|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0382|Kyogre|1|Water|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0383|Groudon|1|Ground|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0384|Rayquaza|2|Dragon|Flying|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0385|Jirachi|2|Steel|Psychic|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0386|Deoxys|1|Psychic|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0386|Deoxys|1|Psychic|form=-Attack|formlink={{form|Deoxys|Attack Forme}}}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0386|Deoxys|1|Psychic|form=-Defense|formlink={{form|Deoxys|Defense Forme}}}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0386|Deoxys|1|Psychic|form=-Speed|formlink={{form|Deoxys|Speed Forme}}}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0406|Budew|2|Grass|Poison|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0433|Chingling|1|Psychic|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0438|Bonsly|1|Rock|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0439|Mime Jr.|2|Psychic|Fairy|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0440|Happiny|1|Normal|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0446|Munchlax|1|Normal|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0447|Riolu|1|Fighting|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0458|Mantyke|2|Water|Flying|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0480|Uxie|1|Psychic|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0481|Mesprit|1|Psychic|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0482|Azelf|1|Psychic|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0483|Dialga|2|Steel|Dragon|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0483|Dialga|2|Steel|Dragon|form=-Origin|formlink={{form|Pokémon of Myth|Origin Forme}}}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0484|Palkia|2|Water|Dragon|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0484|Palkia|2|Water|Dragon|form=-Origin|formlink={{form|Pokémon of Myth|Origin Forme}}}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0485|Heatran|2|Fire|Steel|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0486|Regigigas|1|Normal|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0487|Giratina|2|Ghost|Dragon|formlink={{form|Pokémon of Myth|Altered Forme}}}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0487|Giratina|2|Ghost|Dragon|form=-Origin|formlink={{form|Pokémon of Myth|Origin Forme}}}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0488|Cresselia|1|Psychic|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0491|Darkrai|1|Dark|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0492|Shaymin|1|Grass|formlink={{form|Shaymin|Land Forme}}}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0492|Shaymin|2|Grass|Flying|form=-Sky|formlink={{form|Shaymin|Sky Forme}}}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0493|Arceus|1|Normal|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0494|Victini|2|Psychic|Fire}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0638|Cobalion|2|Steel|Fighting}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0639|Terrakion|2|Rock|Fighting}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0640|Virizion|2|Grass|Fighting}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0641|Tornadus|1|Flying|formlink={{form|Forces of Nature|Incarnate Forme}}}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0641|Tornadus|1|Flying|form=-Therian|formlink={{form|Forces of Nature|Therian Forme}}}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0642|Thundurus|2|Electric|Flying|formlink={{form|Forces of Nature|Incarnate Forme}}}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0642|Thundurus|2|Electric|Flying|form=-Therian|formlink={{form|Forces of Nature|Therian Forme}}}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0643|Reshiram|2|Dragon|Fire|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0644|Zekrom|2|Dragon|Electric|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0645|Landorus|2|Ground|Flying|formlink={{form|Forces of Nature|Incarnate Forme}}}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0645|Landorus|2|Ground|Flying|form=-Therian|formlink={{form|Forces of Nature|Therian Forme}}}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0646|Kyurem|2|Dragon|Ice|}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0646|Kyurem|2|Dragon|Ice|form=-Black|formlink={{form|Kyurem|Black Kyurem}}}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0646|Kyurem|2|Dragon|Ice|form=-White|formlink={{form|Kyurem|White Kyurem}}}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0647|Keldeo|2|Water|Fighting|formlink={{form|Keldeo|Ordinary Form}}}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0647|Keldeo|2|Water|Fighting|form=-Resolute|formlink={{form|Keldeo|Resolute Form}}}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0648|Meloetta|2|Normal|Psychic|formlink={{form|Meloetta|Aria Forme}}}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0649|Genesect|2|Bug|Steel}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0658|Greninja|2|Water|Dark|formlink={{form|Greninja|Battle Bond Greninja}}}}<br /> &lt;!--{{Moveentrytm|0670|Floette|1|Fairy|||Eternal}}--&gt;<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0716|Xerneas|1|Fairy}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0717|Yveltal|2|Dark|Flying}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0718|Zygarde|2|Dragon|Ground}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0719|Diancie|2|Rock|Fairy}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0720|Hoopa|2|Psychic|Ghost|formlink={{form|Hoopa|Hoopa Confined}}}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0720|Hoopa|2|Psychic|Dark|form=-Unbound|formlink={{form|Hoopa|Hoopa Unbound}}}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0721|Volcanion|2|Fire|Water}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0772|Type: Null|1|Normal}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0773|Silvally|1|Normal}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0785|Tapu Koko|2|Electric|Fairy}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0786|Tapu Lele|2|Psychic|Fairy}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0787|Tapu Bulu|2|Grass|Fairy}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0788|Tapu Fini|2|Water|Fairy}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0789|Cosmog|1|Psychic}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0790|Cosmoem|1|Psychic}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0791|Solgaleo|2|Psychic|Steel}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0792|Lunala|2|Psychic|Ghost}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0793|Nihilego|2|Rock|Poison}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0794|Buzzwole|2|Bug|Fighting}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0795|Pheromosa|2|Bug|Fighting}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0796|Xurkitree|1|Electric}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0797|Celesteela|2|Steel|Flying}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0798|Kartana|2|Grass|Steel}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0799|Guzzlord|2|Dark|Dragon}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0800|Necrozma|1|Psychic}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0800|Necrozma|2|Psychic|Steel|form=-Dusk Mane|formlink={{form|Hoopa|Dusk Mane Necrozma}}}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0800|Necrozma|2|Psychic|Ghost|form=-Dawn Wings|formlink={{form|Hoopa|Dawn Wings Necrozma}}}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0801|Magearna|2|Steel|Fairy}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0802|Marshadow|2|Fighting|Ghost}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0803|Poipole|1|Poison}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0804|Naganadel|2|Poison|Dragon}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0805|Stakataka|2|Rock|Steel}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0806|Blacephalon|2|Fire|Ghost}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0807|Zeraora|1|Electric}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0808|Meltan|1|Steel}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0809|Melmetal|1|Steel}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0848|Toxel|2|Electric|Poison}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0880|Dracozolt|2|Electric|Dragon}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0881|Arctozolt|2|Electric|Ice}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0882|Dracovish|2|Water|Dragon}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0883|Arctovish|2|Water|Ice}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0888|Zacian|1|Fairy|form=-Hero|formlink={{form|Zacian and Zamazenta|Hero of Many Battles}}}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0889|Zamazenta|1|Fighting|form=-Hero|formlink={{form|Zacian and Zamazenta|Hero of Many Battles}}}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0890|Eternatus|2|Poison|Dragon}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0891|Kubfu|1|Fighting}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0892|Urshifu|2|Fighting|Dark|form=-Single Strike|formlink={{form|Urshifu|Single Strike Style}}}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0892|Urshifu|2|Fighting|Water|form=-Rapid Strike|formlink={{form|Urshifu|Rapid Strike Style}}}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0893|Zarude|2|Dark|Grass}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0894|Regieleki|1|Electric}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0895|Regidrago|1|Dragon}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0896|Glastrier|1|Ice}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0897|Spectrier|1|Ghost}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0898|Calyrex|2|Psychic|Grass}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0898|Calyrex|2|Psychic|Ice|form=-Ice Rider|formlink={{form|Calyrex|Ice Rider}}}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0898|Calyrex|2|Psychic|Ghost|form=-Shadow Rider|formlink={{form|Calyrex|Shadow Rider}}}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0905|Enamorus|2|Fairy|Flying|formlink={{form|Forces of Nature|Incarnate Forme}}}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0905|Enamorus|2|Fairy|Flying|form=-Therian|formlink={{form|Forces of Nature|Therian Forme}}}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0984|Great Tusk|2|Ground|Fighting}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0985|Scream Tail|2|Fairy|Psychic}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0986|Brute Bonnet|2|Grass|Dark}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0987|Flutter Mane|2|Ghost|Fairy}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0988|Slither Wing|2|Bug|Fighting}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0989|Sandy Shocks|2|Electric|Ground}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0990|Iron Treads|2|Ground|Steel}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0991|Iron Bundle|2|Ice|Water}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0992|Iron Hands|2|Fighting|Electric}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0993|Iron Jugulis|2|Dark|Flying}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0994|Iron Moth|2|Fire|Poison}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0995|Iron Thorns|2|Rock|Electric}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0999|Gimmighoul|1|Ghost||}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|0999|Gimmighoul|1|Ghost||form=-Roaming|formlink={{form|Gimmighoul|Roaming Form}}}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|1000|Gholdengo|2|Steel|Ghost}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|1001|Wo-Chien|2|Dark|Grass}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|1002|Chien-Pao|2|Dark|Ice}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|1003|Ting-Lu|2|Dark|Ground}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|1004|Chi-Yu|2|Dark|Fire}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|1005|Roaring Moon|2|Dragon|Dark}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|1006|Iron Valiant|2|Fairy|Fighting}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|1007|Koraidon|2|Fighting|Dragon}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|1008|Miraidon|2|Electric|Dragon}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|1009|Walking Wake|2|Water|Dragon}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|1010|Iron Leaves|2|Grass|Psychic}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|1014|Okidogi|2|Poison|Fighting}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|1015|Munkidori|2|Poison|Psychic}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|1016|Fezandipiti|2|Poison|Fairy}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|1017|Ogerpon|1|Grass}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|1020|Gouging Fire|2|Fire|Dragon}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|1021|Raging Bolt|2|Electric|Dragon}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|1022|Iron Boulder|2|Rock|Psychic}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|1023|Iron Crown|2|Steel|Psychic}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|1024|Terapagos|1|Normal}}<br /> {{Moveentrytm|1025|Pecharunt|2|Poison|Ghost}}<br /> |}<br /> |}<br /> <br /> ==Trivia==<br /> * This and the {{egg2|Ditto}} are the only ones in which all members are in a single group, since being a member of any other Egg Group would defeat the purpose of being in the No Eggs Discovered group.<br /> * By the time breeding became a game mechanic, it had already been established by Japanese media that {{p|Nidorina}} have lost their ability to lay Eggs upon evolving from {{p|Nidoran♀}}.&lt;ref&gt;[[Pocket Monsters Encyclopedia]]: 「ニドラン♀の進化形だが、ニドリーナになると、卵を産む能力はなくなる。」 (''&quot;It is the evolved form of Nidoran♀, but upon becoming Nidorina, has lost the ability to lay Eggs.&quot;'')&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;ref&gt;ポケットモンスター公式ファンブック ''Official Fan Book of Pocket Monsters'': 「ニドラン♀の進化形だが、卵は産めない。」 (''&quot;It is the evolved form of Nidoran♀, but it cannot lay Eggs.&quot;'')&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> * The only [[Mythical Pokémon]] not in this Egg Group are {{p|Phione}} and {{p|Manaphy}}, which are in the {{egg|Water 1}} and {{egg|Fairy}} groups.<br /> ** Despite not being in this Egg Group, Manaphy is still guaranteed three perfect [[Individual Values|IVs]] when obtained from an event.<br /> * {{p|Articuno}}, {{p|Zapdos}}, and {{p|Moltres}} are seen hatching from Eggs in [[Pokémon Snap]], even though these Pokémon belong in this Egg Group.<br /> * Despite {{p|Dialga}}, {{p|Palkia}} and {{p|Giratina}} being in this Egg Group, an event at [[Sinjoh Ruins]] shows them being created from an Egg.<br /> <br /> ==In other languages==<br /> {{langtable|color={{No Eggs Discovered egg color}}|bordercolor={{No Eggs Discovered egg color light}}|textcolor=000<br /> |fr=Inconnu{{tt|*|Pokédex 3D series and Pokémon Video Game Glossary}}&lt;br&gt;Pas d'Oeufs{{sup/ss|Stad2}}<br /> |de=Unbekannt{{tt|*|Pokédex 3D series and Pokémon Video Game Glossary}}&lt;br&gt;Keine Eier{{sup/ss|Stad2}}<br /> |it=Sconosciuto{{tt|*|Pokémon Video Game Glossary}}&lt;br&gt;Non ancora scoperto{{tt|*|Pokédex 3D series}}&lt;br&gt;Nessun Uovo{{sup/ss|Stad2}}<br /> |ko=알미발견 ''Almibalgyeon''<br /> |es=Desconocido{{tt|*|Pokédex 3D series and Pokémon Video Game Glossary}}&lt;br&gt;No pone Huevos{{sup/ss|Stad2}}<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ==References==<br /> {{reflist}}<br /> <br /> [[de:Ei-Gruppen#Unbekannt-Gruppe]]<br /> [[es:Grupo de huevo#Desconocido]]<br /> [[fr:Liste des Pokémon par groupe d'œuf#Inconnu]]<br /> [[it:Sconosciuto (Gruppo Uova)]]<br /> [[ja:タマゴみはっけん]]<br /> [[zh:未发现（蛋群）]]</div>

Porygon137 https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_by_breeding_attributes&diff=3123021 2020-02-25T20:38:13Z

<p>Porygon137: </p> <hr /> <div>=Un-hatchable Pokemon=<br /> Does this list have to include Pokemon that can't (legitimately) hatch from eggs, like evolved Pokemon or unbreedable Pokemon? If we want to keep the information on the page somehow, then I think we can delete those Pokemon from the main table and add an expandable table like we did with the unseen Hoenn Pokedex numbers. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 23:15, 9 May 2018 (UTC)<br /> :It's been more than 6 months, so I just wanted to say you're still allowed to respond to this. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]], [[Special:Contributions/Sumwun|contribs]]) 01:55, 11 February 2020 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Some Pokémon changed base egg cycles in gen 8 ==<br /> <br /> The page currently states that no Pokémon has ever had its base egg cycles change from one game to another, but this is false. The base egg cycles of several Pokémon changed between Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon and Sword/Shield -- some of those changes even appearing in the data of Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee, although not used in those games. The page must be corrected with the accurate data. [[User:Porygon137|Porygon137]] ([[User talk:Porygon137|talk]]) 13:33, 25 February 2020 (UTC)<br /> :Do you know which ones and how they changed? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]], [[Special:Contributions/Sumwun|contribs]]) 15:55, 25 February 2020 (UTC)<br /> ::I'm not seeing any changes in the dumps. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 17:06, 25 February 2020 (UTC)<br /> :::Caterpie line (15 --&gt; 10), Weedle line (15 --&gt; 10), Pikachu line (10 --&gt; 20), Clefairy line (10 --&gt; 20), Jigglypuff line (10 --&gt; 20), Aerodactyl (35 --&gt; 30), Spinda (15 --&gt; 20), Corphish line (15 --&gt; 20), Toxicroak (20 --&gt; 10) (apparently Croagunk was already 10 so one is just a weird data fix I guess), Watchog (20 --&gt; 15) (same story there with Patrat), Scolipede (20 --&gt; 15) (and here too), Zoroark (20 --&gt; 25) (and here), Meloetta (120 --&gt; 20) (ok this one is weird). I didn't check alternate forms because those are always a hassle, what with having different indexes in every game. Data sources for this comparison: USUM data that I dumped myself from the hex, and SwSh data from [https://pastebin.com/Cyg8Rp53 here] and [https://pastebin.com/c6EFsDjr here]. If I'm just looking at the wrong data somehow and I'm completely wrong, I'm going to feel very silly. [[User:Porygon137|Porygon137]] ([[User talk:Porygon137|talk]]) 20:29, 25 February 2020 (UTC)<br /> ::::Disregard me I'm wrong about everything [[User:Porygon137|Porygon137]] ([[User talk:Porygon137|talk]]) 20:38, 25 February 2020 (UTC)</div>

Porygon137 https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_by_breeding_attributes&diff=3123019 2020-02-25T20:29:43Z

<p>Porygon137: /* Some Pokémon changed base egg cycles in gen 8 */</p> <hr /> <div>=Un-hatchable Pokemon=<br /> Does this list have to include Pokemon that can't (legitimately) hatch from eggs, like evolved Pokemon or unbreedable Pokemon? If we want to keep the information on the page somehow, then I think we can delete those Pokemon from the main table and add an expandable table like we did with the unseen Hoenn Pokedex numbers. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 23:15, 9 May 2018 (UTC)<br /> :It's been more than 6 months, so I just wanted to say you're still allowed to respond to this. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]], [[Special:Contributions/Sumwun|contribs]]) 01:55, 11 February 2020 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Some Pokémon changed base egg cycles in gen 8 ==<br /> <br /> The page currently states that no Pokémon has ever had its base egg cycles change from one game to another, but this is false. The base egg cycles of several Pokémon changed between Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon and Sword/Shield -- some of those changes even appearing in the data of Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee, although not used in those games. The page must be corrected with the accurate data. [[User:Porygon137|Porygon137]] ([[User talk:Porygon137|talk]]) 13:33, 25 February 2020 (UTC)<br /> :Do you know which ones and how they changed? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]], [[Special:Contributions/Sumwun|contribs]]) 15:55, 25 February 2020 (UTC)<br /> ::I'm not seeing any changes in the dumps. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 17:06, 25 February 2020 (UTC)<br /> :::Caterpie line (15 --&gt; 10), Weedle line (15 --&gt; 10), Pikachu line (10 --&gt; 20), Clefairy line (10 --&gt; 20), Jigglypuff line (10 --&gt; 20), Aerodactyl (35 --&gt; 30), Spinda (15 --&gt; 20), Corphish line (15 --&gt; 20), Toxicroak (20 --&gt; 10) (apparently Croagunk was already 10 so one is just a weird data fix I guess), Watchog (20 --&gt; 15) (same story there with Patrat), Scolipede (20 --&gt; 15) (and here too), Zoroark (20 --&gt; 25) (and here), Meloetta (120 --&gt; 20) (ok this one is weird). I didn't check alternate forms because those are always a hassle, what with having different indexes in every game. Data sources for this comparison: USUM data that I dumped myself from the hex, and SwSh data from [https://pastebin.com/Cyg8Rp53 here] and [https://pastebin.com/c6EFsDjr here]. If I'm just looking at the wrong data somehow and I'm completely wrong, I'm going to feel very silly. [[User:Porygon137|Porygon137]] ([[User talk:Porygon137|talk]]) 20:29, 25 February 2020 (UTC)</div>

Porygon137 https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_by_breeding_attributes&diff=3122648 2020-02-25T13:33:12Z

<p>Porygon137: /* Some Pokémon changed base egg cycles in gen 8 */ new section</p> <hr /> <div>=Un-hatchable Pokemon=<br /> Does this list have to include Pokemon that can't (legitimately) hatch from eggs, like evolved Pokemon or unbreedable Pokemon? If we want to keep the information on the page somehow, then I think we can delete those Pokemon from the main table and add an expandable table like we did with the unseen Hoenn Pokedex numbers. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 23:15, 9 May 2018 (UTC)<br /> :It's been more than 6 months, so I just wanted to say you're still allowed to respond to this. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]], [[Special:Contributions/Sumwun|contribs]]) 01:55, 11 February 2020 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Some Pokémon changed base egg cycles in gen 8 ==<br /> <br /> The page currently states that no Pokémon has ever had its base egg cycles change from one game to another, but this is false. The base egg cycles of several Pokémon changed between Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon and Sword/Shield -- some of those changes even appearing in the data of Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee, although not used in those games. The page must be corrected with the accurate data. [[User:Porygon137|Porygon137]] ([[User talk:Porygon137|talk]]) 13:33, 25 February 2020 (UTC)</div>

Porygon137 https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_by_effort_value_yield_in_Generations_V_and_VI&diff=2598128 2017-02-10T20:09:49Z

<p>Porygon137: Incorrect base experience values for Gen VI</p> <hr /> <div>==Init.==<br /> Why is Speed not the last stat in the list like it is in the video games? It would make it much easier to remember which column holds which stat after the headings scroll off the screen if they were presented in the same order as they are in the games. --[[User:Kitsunegami|Kitsunegami]] 00:57, 22 May 2008 (UTC)<br /> :Yeah, I don't know why either. But right now it'd seriously be a pain to change it... '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:09, 22 May 2008 (UTC)<br /> ::I've got the time if there are no objections to it. Speed is the last stat listed on Bulbpedia except on these large lists. Fixing them would make the whole site more consistent. --[[User:Kitsunegami|Kitsunegami]] 11:20, 26 May 2008 (UTC)<br /> :::It would most definitely be appreciated if it were corrected. [[User:Podunk|Podunk]] 10:05, 5 October 2008 (UTC)<br /> ::::Still would be appreciated. Especially since '''Deoxys's freaking BST was messed up!''' '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:20, 5 March 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Movelist Tables??==<br /> Is there any chance we can do a slight revamp of this page, so that we have a movelist table for each individual stat by category? It's hard to keep in mind which column represents what once you've scrolled down to the pokemon you're looking for, so I thought this might be a good idea instead. It would be a page like &quot;List of Pokémon by effort value yield#Speed_Yield&quot;? I hope I'm explaining the idea correctly, I'm sorry if not. ^^; [[User:RWMVG1DC|RWMVG1DC]] 01:22, 15 December 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Possible numeral system?==<br /> I'm not sure whether this would have any use or relevance, but I was thinking of adding a quaternary numeral system for the tables, much like the binary numeral system, but thought I'd run the idea by here before I did anything else. [[User:Luke Davis|Luke Davis]] 19:47, 6 February 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==DONE.==<br /> I changed the speed to the last stat like in the games. [[User:Alpha Totodile|&lt;span style=&quot;color:black;&quot;&gt;'''Alpha'''&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User talk:Alpha Totodile|&lt;span style=&quot;color:blue;&quot;&gt;'''Totodile'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 22:14, 13 April 2009 (UTC)<br /> :Alpha... please please please ask before doing it next time... this is a damned sensitive table... '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:07, 14 April 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::OK. We can still keep the changes though, can't we? I know what I'm doing. [[User:Alpha Totodile|&lt;span style=&quot;color:black;&quot;&gt;'''Alpha'''&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User talk:Alpha Totodile|&lt;span style=&quot;color:blue;&quot;&gt;'''Totodile'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 01:55, 14 April 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::Oh... the changes were undone... I apparently did something wrong. [[User:Alpha Totodile|&lt;span style=&quot;color:black;&quot;&gt;'''Alpha'''&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User talk:Alpha Totodile|&lt;span style=&quot;color:blue;&quot;&gt;'''Totodile'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 02:01, 14 April 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::We're gonna template it up so as to have an easier time of adding the data in Gen V. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:24, 14 April 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::::Does that mean I don't have to change it? I'd still like to, because it's been needed for a LONG time. [[User:Alpha Totodile|&lt;span style=&quot;color:black;&quot;&gt;'''Alpha'''&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User talk:Alpha Totodile|&lt;span style=&quot;color:blue;&quot;&gt;'''Totodile'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 00:54, 15 April 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::::::Do it according to the new template. You'll have to go through each Pokémon, though, since some are wrong and Speed is in the wrong place. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:32, 15 April 2009 (UTC)<br /> :::::::Well. I just found out I ''can't'' edit it. It's protected. Can I have your permission to edit it? [[User:Alpha Totodile|&lt;span style=&quot;color:black;&quot;&gt;'''Alpha'''&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User talk:Alpha Totodile|&lt;span style=&quot;color:blue;&quot;&gt;'''Totodile'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 11:43, 16 April 2009, (UTC)<br /> ::::::::In respect to editing the table, if I find there is a row with the wrong EV, who would I have to go to to ask for it to be verified and fixed? [[User:Goddessofevil9|Goddessofevil9]] 01:51, 14 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Experience Points==<br /> I dont understand what level the experience points are set at. Can somebody help me out? &lt;small&gt;- ''unsigned comment from {{u|Ty Boyd}} ([[User talk:Ty Boyd|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ty Boyd|contribs]]) ''&lt;/small&gt;<br /> :It's the base value for the formula given [[Experience#Experience gain in battle|here]]. So, effectively, it's at level 1. &amp;mdash;'''&lt;span style=&quot;font-family:Verdana&quot;&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000&quot;&gt;darklord&lt;/span&gt;[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0047AB&quot;&gt;trom&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;''' 22:39, 8 October 2009 (UTC)<br /> ::Actually, it's effectively at level 7. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#DAA520&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#C0C0C0&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 06:08, 29 October 2009 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Gen II EVs?==<br /> In Gen II (and I) the EVs given are much greater right? (Since they go up to 65536 instead of 256 and are divided by 2048 in the formula...) Any info on these numbers?<br /> [[User:Grinnz|Grinnz]] 00:34, 19 April 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Nevermind...I found out it's just the base stats, which the [[Effort values]] page mentions, but apparently I didn't notice. Maybe this should be made clearer on that page, where it links to this table... --[[User:Grinnz|Grinnz]] 02:14, 11 May 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Effort points?==<br /> So it says for every four effort points in a particular stat, i will get 1 of those stats permanently at lvl 100.....say i went a bit genocidal and killed....oh say 41000 lvl 4 or 3 hoothoots which would take me to around lvl 100....and granting me 41000 hp effort points and around 10000 hp??? Why do i not believe this? Or am i miss understanding/missing something? And btw....assuming i had no life this could be accomplished in like a month. {{unsigned|Ethanwoodhouseiscool}}<br /> :Each stat can have a maximum of 255 EVs and each individual Pokémon has a maximum of 510 EVs, limiting the ammount gained by them, as mentioned [[Effort values|in their article]]. &lt;span class=&quot;sc&quot;&gt;[[User:Werdnae|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#2D4B98;&quot;&gt;Werdnae&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;[[User talk:Werdnae|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#009000;&quot;&gt;(talk)&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt; 09:20, 28 October 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Gen. V==<br /> Could someone please add the values for the Generation V Pokémon? [[User:Tschihrätschih|Tschihrätschih]] 14:03, 8 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> :Tada! [[User:Hexagon Theory|Hexagon Theory]] 12:57, 12 November 2010 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Pre-Gen. V experience yield? ==<br /> <br /> I understand that almost every Pokémon's base experience yield was changed for Black and White. So where can I find the old values? —[[User:Typhlosion|Typhlosion]] 03:54, 18 January 2011 (UTC)<br /> * IIRC, the experience yield is unchanged, only the formula has changed. --[[User:Trulyelse|Trulyelse]] 23:30, 22 January 2011 (UTC)<br /> ::Experience yield has definitely changed. For example, Blissey now has 608 base exp. compared to 255 base exp. before. [[User:Ultraflame|Ultraflame]] 00:14, 23 January 2011 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Redirect to this page ==<br /> <br /> Could the following link redirect to this page from the search menu, please:<br /> List of Pokemon by base experience<br /> <br /> If anyone who knows how to do it could, i'd be grateful. [[User:Migrant|Migrant]] 04:36, 16 February 2011 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == New base Experience? ==<br /> <br /> Are all the values updated for gen V? Some of them seem to not have been updated (for example, Silcoon and Cascoon having quite different base yields)...<br /> Thanks for taking the time to check it up! [[User:Eriorguez|Eriorguez]] 06:41, 13 March 2011 (UTC)<br /> <br /> : Can we get confirmation that all the base Exp values in this list are actually now correct, and are the Gen 5 values? Thanks. ~ [[User:Serial Colour|Serial Colour]] ([[User talk:Serial Colour|talk]]) 22:37, 5 August 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: I've tested a number of these values, and many are not the Gen 5 values. They were taken from the individual species pages, which are also inaccurate. The values I did get are consistent with the list on this website: http://upokecenter.dreamhosters.com/dex/?lang=en&amp;view=baseexp. I wanted to say this before the values were corrected and anyone got trigger-happy with the &quot;revert edit&quot; function. ~ [[User:Serial Colour|Serial Colour]] ([[User talk:Serial Colour|talk]]) 18:01, 2 September 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::: The values i got for Generation I (Gameshark Pokemon Yellow) are consistent with the ones provided by the site http://upokecenter.dreamhosters.com/dex/?lang=en&amp;version=yellow&amp;view=baseexp too. [[User:T-Rex_Lord|T-Rex_Lord]] 01:56, 29 November 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Old experience yield ==<br /> <br /> Uh, is there is a list of it? [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] 21:20, 23 April 2011 (UTC)<br /> :Best bet is to just look at an older revision (before September 2010) of this page. [[User:Ultraflame|Ultraflame]] 03:21, 24 April 2011 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Sort By Region/Generation? ==<br /> <br /> Is there any sort of way someone could add a way to sort by region dex or by generation? And maybe to sort by more than one criteria. Like sort to the top the pokemon who yield the most special attack in Unova. [[User:Theviolinkid|Theviolinkid]] 01:07, 26 April 2011 (UTC)<br /> :It isn't possible to sort by more than one criteria. And I believe the only way to sort by regional dex would be to add a column for each regional dex number, which would make the table prohibitively wide. &lt;span class=&quot;sc&quot;&gt;[[User:Werdnae|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#2D4B98;&quot;&gt;Werdnae&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;[[User talk:Werdnae|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#009000;&quot;&gt;(talk)&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/small&gt; 06:09, 26 April 2011 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Experience ==<br /> <br /> What are the &quot;other variables&quot; which determine experience yield? A formula would be nice. [[User:Tk3141|Tk3141]] ([[User talk:Tk3141|talk]]) 03:49, 20 July 2012 (UTC)<br /> :See [[experience]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A70000&quot;&gt;'''Snorlax'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000A7&quot;&gt;'''Monster'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 04:12, 20 July 2012 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Needs Redirect ==<br /> <br /> If I'm not mistaken, this page doesn't redirect &quot;List of Pokemon by effort value yield&quot; to itself. This should probably be fixed, considering that most other pages are willing to except Pokemon with the wrong 'e'. I'd do it myself, but I'm not sure how to do that. --[[User:Cedrickc|Cedrickc]] ([[User talk:Cedrickc|talk]]) 15:05, 24 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> :&quot;List of pokemon by effort value yield&quot; does, and since the search bar ignores case (unless there are two articles with the same name but a different case) it has the same function. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#A70000&quot;&gt;'''Snorlax'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000A7&quot;&gt;'''Monster'''&lt;/span&gt;]] 15:15, 24 April 2013 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Accurate from Gen V and later ==<br /> <br /> The article states the figures are accurate from Gen V onward, is this statement true as of Gen VI, or has this some how changes for one or more Pokémon or is no longer applicable. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 07:04, 9 January 2014 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Gen VI EV yields ==<br /> <br /> Thanks to [[Super Training]] this should be easy to verify in Gen VI -- just take an untrained Pokemon, defeat one wild Pokemon of the desired species, then use a Reset Bag on it. Any volunteers to fill in the gaps? (Infoboxes on species pages also need updating with the info.) For example, {{p|Helioptile}}'s EV yield appears to be +1 Speed. --''[[User:Stratelier|Stratelier]]'' 21:15, 1 February 2014 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Kalos Pokémon's EV yields ==<br /> <br /> Do we have sources for the EV yields for Kalos Pokémon? --[[User:Cinday123|&lt;span style=&quot;color:pink&quot;&gt;Cinday123&lt;/span&gt;]] &lt;small&gt;''([[User talk:Cinday123|&lt;span style=&quot;color:lightblue&quot;&gt;Talk&lt;/span&gt;]])''&lt;/small&gt; 05:24, 1 March 2014 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Equation for base Exp ==<br /> <br /> I came across [http://www.dragonflycave.com/makefake.aspx this website], and towards the bottom it has some equations for calculating the Gen 5 base Exp value for a species based on its BST. The equations are as follows:<br /> <br /> BST * 4/20, rounded to nearest whole number - first evolution<br /> BST * 7/20, rounded to nearest whole number - second evolution or non-evolving non-legendary<br /> BST * 9/20, rounded to nearest whole number - third evolution or legendary<br /> <br /> There are a few exceptions, such as the Audino/Chansey lines (lots of Exp is their thing) and the Unova starters (because you face 2 of them immediately), and some Pokémon being treated as being in different tiers according to their strengths/weaknesses (e.g. Volcarona is treated as being in the legendary tier).<br /> <br /> Should this information be put somewhere? ~ [[User:Serial Colour|Serial Colour]] ([[User talk:Serial Colour|talk]]) 22:29, 5 March 2014 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I would like to see this on the main page, since it is accurate for the majority of Pokémon. Though we might need to have a disclaimer stating that Pokémon with updated stats in Gen VI didn't gain new Base Experience values. [[User:Trainer Yusuf|Trainer Yusuf]] ([[User talk:Trainer Yusuf|talk]]) 22:10, 10 April 2015 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Should Watchog's B/W EV should be added as a note? ==<br /> <br /> In Black/White Watchog's EV was 1 Attack. Should we add that as a note under its current EV yield, like how it is on its page?<br /> [[User:Trainer Yusuf|Trainer Yusuf]] ([[User talk:Trainer Yusuf|talk]]) 08:31, 30 August 2014 (UTC)<br /> :It ''is'' noted, although it's hidden, since the template doesn't cover things like that. {{unsigned|Eridanus}}<br /> <br /> ==Florges==<br /> Floette and Florges both give two Special Defense EVs each. Is this a mistake or is Florges meant to only give two EVs despite it being third in line in its evolutionary family? --''' ''&lt;span style=&quot;color:#AB0047&quot;&gt;Scribbl&lt;/span&gt;'' ''' 03:27, 7 January 2015 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == A seperate list for Gen I-IV base experience ==<br /> <br /> Since most Pokémon had their base experience altered in Gen V, I think it would be best to have a separate list within this page, or in another page like how Base Stat lists are separated for Gen I, Gen II-V and Gen VI+. [[User:Trainer Yusuf|Trainer Yusuf]] ([[User talk:Trainer Yusuf|talk]]) 12:15, 9 April 2015 (UTC)<br /> :Yes, there should be a separate page. For reference, [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_by_effort_value_yield&amp;diff=1245700&amp;oldid=1217891 this] is right before Gen V changes were made to this page. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 12:37, 9 April 2015 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Incorrect base experience values for Gen VI ==<br /> <br /> I have noticed that several dozen Pokémon on this page have different values for base experience than the values given on veekun.com's Pokédex. I have compiled a list of the conflicting values [http://pastebin.com/RyVJKstf here]. Nearly all of them are final evolutions, with the base experience value 4 or 5 points higher according to the veekun data. This leads me to believe there was an intentional recalibration of base experience values by Gamefreak in Gen VI for several final evolutions (and alternate forms, and Megas, and some others as well) that Bulbapedia never noticed. Or, maybe the veekun data is wrong and this page is correct. But given this page's lack of form data (Megas, Eternal Floette, Rotom, Kyurem), I'm more inclined to believe veekun. Could someone more knowledgable than me verify which source is correct? And if it's not Bulbapedia, update the page appropriately? [[User:Porygon137|Porygon137]] ([[User talk:Porygon137|talk]]) 20:08, 10 February 2017 (UTC)</div>

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