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== baby text follow up ==

So, the new updated baby Template:Cardtext/Baby template you mentioned me does not support [[Smoochum_(Aquapolis_61)|this card]]. Thought I'd let you know! :) [[User:MannedTooth| MannedTooth ]] ([[User_Talk:MannedTooth|Talk]]) 13:40, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
:UPDATE: It won't support any of the babies of {{TCG|Aquapolis}}. [[User:MannedTooth| MannedTooth ]] ([[User_Talk:MannedTooth|Talk]]) 14:11, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
::I have addressed this issue [[User:Maverick Nate/Babies|one year ago Sunday]], and we will get to it. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 15:02, 14 September 2016 (UTC)

== card infobox print ==

Shouldn't the card shown in the info box of [[Delcatty_(EX_Ruby_%26_Sapphire_5)|this card]] be the most recent one (EX Power Keepers) ? It has the same code in the same order than [[Blaziken_(EX_Ruby_%26_Sapphire_3)|this one]], which shows the most recent one. How do you do that? [[User:MannedTooth| MannedTooth ]] ([[User_Talk:MannedTooth|Talk]]) 15:55, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
:It cycles on a timer. [[User:Glik|glik]][[User talk:Glik|glak]] 17:10, 15 September 2016 (UTC)

== CP6 ==

Hi. I was just wondering for the cards from the Expansion Pack 20th Anniversary subset, are we redirecting to the original Base Set article or creating a new article? — '''[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang]][[User talk:Ruixiang95|95]]''' 20:53, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
:Only reprints are ever redirected to their original article. If the card features any gameplay-differing differences, then it is considered a brand new card. If the card plays the same as its retro print, then it should be redirected to the Original Era card, as it is only then considered a reprint. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 20:59, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
::Actually, may I know the difference between [[Charmeleon (Base Set 24)]] and [[Charmeleon (Expansion Pack 20th 10)]]? And if so, may I request to have a check on the CP6 articles I recently created and delete accordingly? — '''[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang]][[User talk:Ruixiang95|95]]''' 21:04, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
:::All the articles you've created so far are fine. Kakuna has a different attack effect for Stiffen, causing the attack to play differently. Mew has an Ability instead of a Pokémon Power, which makes the Expansion Pack 20th Anniversary Mew interact with cards like {{TCG ID|Dragons Exalted|Garbodor|54}} while the Original Era Mew would not. Koffing is Psychic type and not Grass type, making it interact with different cards' Weaknesses and Resistances. Charmeleon's attack damages are different. Honestly I'm expecting there to be far fewer exact reprints than brand new cards. I was actually pretty surprised when I looked at Caterpie and realized they were the same. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 21:13, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
::::So apparently, only Caterpie and Weedle are exact reprints. I have make a mistake on [[Hitmonchan (Expansion Pack 20th 60)]] and realized that they are two different cards, because of the HP and attack damages. I may have accidentally blanked the article, and I apologize for any inconvenience caused. — '''[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang]][[User talk:Ruixiang95|95]]''' 04:26, 16 September 2016 (UTC)
:::::Not a problem! Thanks for seeing something happen with the other cards and coming to me to ask about it! ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 09:19, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

== TCG vs tt template ==

So, while I understand the uses of when we link a Ppkémon to its TCG card page when talking about the card name, but can you explain [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Feebas_(EX_Hidden_Legends_61)&curid=53698&diff=2509054&oldid=2508992 this edit] ? I would like to know why we shouldn't use the tt template instead, it makes it read as <code>Search your deck for a card that evolves from this Pokémon</code> which is more than accurate. Anyway, I've undone [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Vulpix_(EX_Hidden_Legends_81)&curid=31160&diff=2509064&oldid=2509043 this one] too in case it should stay like it was. I'm waiting for your input on this ! :) [[User:MannedTooth| MannedTooth ]] ([[User_Talk:MannedTooth|Talk]]) 01:17, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
:A card that evolves from Vulpix won't only evolve from the specific EX Hidden Legends Vulpix, but any card printed with the name ''Vulpix''. Thus, that reference isn't only talking about that specific card and is linked accordingly. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 01:21, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

== adding merchandise ==

Let's say that I want to add merchandise to the page that doesn't have it. For example [http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-tcg/product-gallery/battle-heart-tin this one]. How shall I proceed? Because I saw that many were missing. [[User:MannedTooth| MannedTooth ]] ([[User_Talk:MannedTooth|Talk]]) 00:58, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
:Find the appropriate Series of merchandise it belongs to, along with any relevant news stories, tweets, and images on Bulbanews and Archives. Post it chronologically with all of those links on the merchandise page, with a paragraph or two that includes all there is to know about the products and any exclusive merch inside them, written in such a way that makes the prose for that section distinct from the ones before it. (That page for this set of tins would be [[XY BREAK TCG Series merchandise|this one]].) Give the section any relevant subsections like ''Promo cards'' and ''Product images''. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 01:28, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
::The XY BREAK Series merchandise page is at least 30 products behind, so as with everything, it is preferred slash advised that as many are posted in {{tt|as few edits as possible|read: one}} rather than adding each individual product one by one. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 01:31, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

== template modification ==

[[Template:TCGGallery|This template]] needs to be updated to accept at least 16 cards (15 current) in order to add every print of [[Gym_Badge_(XY-P_Promo)|this card]]. [[User:MannedTooth| MannedTooth ]] ([[User_Talk:MannedTooth|Talk]]) 15:03, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
:You're probably working on this at the very moment, but just to let you know, you forgot a "|" after the line <code>| {{#if: {{{image16|}}}||style="display:none;"}} |</code>{{tt|*|look into the page code or else you won't see it full}} and so for every line after a 3rd consecutive print (so 4, 7, 10, 13, 16, 19, etc.) [[User:MannedTooth| MannedTooth ]] ([[User_Talk:MannedTooth|Talk]]) 20:32, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

== Viewing articles in a cross-section of categories ==

Hey man, been awhile. I just started a desk job where I have a fair amount of down time, so I figure I'll do a little work in my free time. Anyway, quick question that I should know the answer to: is there anywhere I can put in two or more categories and see all the article that are in both/all of said categories? Thanks. --[[User:Politoed666|'''Politoed''']][[User talk:Politoed666|'''666''']] 21:25, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
:Hey there! Glad to see you back! From what I can tell, I don't think this exists. I looked into the Special pages too, and don't see anything that looks like it will do what you want. Sorry I can't be any help! ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 23:46, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
::A relatively simple solution would be to do two searches and exclude one from the other. Like search for [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&profile=default&fulltext=Search&search=incategory%3A%22Mythical+Pok%C3%A9mon%22 incategory:"Mythical Pokémon"] and then [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&profile=default&fulltext=Search&search=incategory%3A%22Generation+VI+Pok%C3%A9mon%22+-incategory%3A%22Mythical+Pok%C3%A9mon%22 incategory:"Generation VI Pokémon" -incategory:"Mythical Pokémon"]. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:05, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

== Quick question! ==

Hi! I'm fairly new here, and while flipping through random pages to look for things that need editing, I noticed that the image we have for EX Legend Maker {{TCG ID|EX Legend Maker|Aron|48}} has some sort of funky scuff mark (maybe pen?) near the 20 for Headbutt's damage. Is there a way we could get a better image? Is there someone else I should notify to get a better picture? (If I had the card I would scan it myself but alas...) I'm still finding my way around here so thanks for any help! [[User:Terra Antiqua|Terra Antiqua]] ([[User talk:Terra Antiqua|talk]]) 21:54, 7 October 2016 (UTC)

== Evolutions ==

I mean, I don't want to direct traffic to the TCG without your consent :P ..but I knew about the hatnote, which I think is just fine for those who type in "Evolution" and expect to land at the TCG expansion. And it's really hard for me to imagine how someone typing in "Evolutions" is that much more likely to look for the concept rather than the expansion that a hatnote is the way to go. I was actually torn between a disambiguation and a redirect to the TCG (and another hatnote there). So, are you really sure? Or is there maybe something more to it, something I'm missing? [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 23:11, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
:I try my best to avoid disambiguations, so I've redirect Evolutions to the expansion and added new hatnotes there. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 08:16, 3 November 2016 (UTC)

== Hyper Rares. ==

Just a quick question to be sure. For the purpose of the {{TCG|Full Art card}} page, the new Hyper Rares count as Full Arts, right? Or will they be considered something else? [[User:Metalizard|Metalizard]] ([[User talk:Metalizard|talk]]) 19:13, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
:Yeah. I think it is fine to say that they are. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 22:48, 13 December 2016 (UTC)

== SM001 Sun & Moon ==

Hi. Just wondering if I'm good to go or would you want to upload the images before I do the edits. Just to inform you, I have already done ALL the Pokémon (excluding Trainer/GX/Rare Secret/Rare Ultra/Hyper Rare), all I need is to press submit for all of them. And for Cosmog, Cosmoem, and Eevee having the Collection Sun and Collection Moon Pokédex entries differences and the English entries having use the Pokémon Sun Dex entries. Should I put as "Sun & Moon/Collection Sun prints" or "{{tt|Sun & Moon|Collection Sun}} print"? And they have made changes of "his or her hand" into "their" hand, should I just leave it with "their" on the article? — '''[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang]][[User talk:Ruixiang95|95]]''' 09:24, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
:I won't be getting to scans anytime soon, so they are good to go as is. Change all instances to "their" since that is what is written as the cardtext now. Follow the precedence listed on [[Slurpuff (Generations RC20)]]; list "Pokédex entry (Sun & Moon print)" and "Pokédex entry (Collection Moon print)". ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 17:32, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
::I know we will be diverting to ''Category:Holofoil cards'' soon, so should I add that or ''Category:Holographic cards'' now to the Holofoil of Sun & Moon. Currently doing the items so I thought I asked. — '''[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang]][[User talk:Ruixiang95|95]]''' 01:55, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
:::Category:Holographic cards is fine for now. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 02:46, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
::::So should I leave Nest Ball and Rotom Dex in the Holofoil category currently, because if not, that would make Holofoil be an empty Category article. Also, is the four Rare Secret ITEMS in Sun & Moon just Holographic and Secret or Full art as well since I saw Glik putting Full art in also? Thanks. — '''[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang]][[User talk:Ruixiang95|95]]''' 03:08, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
:::::Either is fine. One of the categories is going to end up empty eventually anyway. Sun & Moon secret items are Holo, Secret, and Full Art. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]''

== Pokemon-GX page ==

Hey there. I don't know if you've seen my last response in my Talk page but I just finished the page: {{TCG|Pokémon-GX}}. Check it to see if everything is okay. [[User:Metalizard|Metalizard]] ([[User talk:Metalizard|talk]]) 18:08, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
:It looks really good! Thank you! I appreciate the work you put into the TCG here. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 21:12, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
::Cool, man. Glad you liked it. btw, I wanted to ask you about something else. The last time I updated the {{TCG|Full Art card}} page, I added the recent UR Double Colorless Energy from SM1+ to the list, however, first, I don't know if it is supposed to be considered a Full Art and second, if it is, I'm guessing the template has to be updated (or there's a way to do it and I don't know) cause I can't make it to show the entry for the card properly (namely, it shows the fire energy symbol by default instead of the colorless energy symbol after the 'E'). I ended up hiding the entry in the code for now. [[User:Metalizard|Metalizard]] ([[User talk:Metalizard|talk]]) 21:45, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
:I'll look into it sometime soon. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 06:42, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

== Note that needs to be modified ==

[[Holon's Electrode (EX Delta Species 21)|These]] [[Holon's Magneton (EX Delta Species 22)|cards]]' foot note must be modified to make the last sentence (the one in parantheses) italic. [[User:MannedTooth| MannedTooth ]] ([[User_Talk:MannedTooth|Talk]]) 20:32, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

== 2016 World Championships Decks ==

I created them in my usersapce, as I wasn't sure whether I should mainspace them without pictures. Also, I don't know whether it should be "Bebe" or "Bebe Deck". I was hoping maybe you could continue from there!? [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 13:38, 25 March 2017 (UTC)
:To make life easier, and because I believe those are by TPCi (I'm new to this), you (or any other TCG staff) might be able to grab images from here: [https://www.pokemoncenter.com/pok%C3%A9mon-tcg%3A-2016-world-championships-deck-mdash%3Bshunto-sadahiro-%28black-dragon%29-699-16767 1] [https://www.pokemoncenter.com/pok%C3%A9mon-tcg%3A-2016-world-championships-deck-mdash%3Bjesper-eriksen-%28bebe%29-699-16768 2] [https://www.pokemoncenter.com/pok%C3%A9mon-tcg%3A-2016-world-championships-deck-mdash%3Bshintaro-ito-%28magical-symphony%29-699-16769 3] [https://www.pokemoncenter.com/pok%C3%A9mon-tcg%3A-2016-world-championships-deck-mdash%3Bcody-walinski-%28ninja-blitz%29-699-16770 4].
:Also, links to the created pages are here: [[User:Nescientist/Black Dragon (TCG)|1]] [[User:Nescientist/Bebe (TCG)|2]] [[User:Nescientist/Magical Symphony (TCG)|3]] [[User:Nescientist/Ninja Blitz (TCG)|4]]. Thanks. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 21:40, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
::I'll do that right away! Good job on the deck pages! Sorry I missed this. Keep up the good work! ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 23:07, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
== Sun & Moon Expansion 3 ==

If it's okay with you, I have made a page about To Have Seen The Battle Rainbow/Darkness That Consumes Light. There was a picture with the card packs, with one featuring [[Ho-Oh]], the other featuring [[Necrozma]]. It also shows the release date for its debut in Japan, along with the number 150. I'm not sure if that's the total amount of the cards in the set.

Also, I saw said picture online.--Hamfart 17:55, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
:Nice! Thank you! ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 23:07, 9 April 2017 (UTC)

== Regarding TCG cards that have different effects in different languages ==

Hello, Maverick Nate. I have noticed that several cards like [[Grimer (Team Rocket 57)|this Grimer]] have differences between the English and Japanese release. I was wondering if it would be alright to create a category to note these cards. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 22:26, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
:I think that a category for now would be acceptable. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 22:29, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

== TFG conditions. ==

Not sure if it's good idea to link Duel figures to that article, since paralysis works differently than in TFG (for reference, it now always chooses the smallest non-miss piece and turns it into Miss; this will affect all instances of that piece like the four dodges on {{TFG ID|Duel|Metagross|11}}). Should I add the conditions/markers that are in Duel or would that be better suited for a separate article? [[User:Eridanus|Eridanus]] ([[User talk:Eridanus|talk]]) 22:48, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
:Looking at it, I think a separate page at {{redlink|Special Conditions (Duel)}} would be better suited for this situation. Otherwise, I'm not the person taking charge of this side game, given that I haven't ever played it, I'm simply filling in the jname and jtrans for attacks and Abilities. It may be worth asking {{u|MisterE13}} for his opinion, as he is the user taking charge of this side game. That being said, if you could add the jname and jtrans for Dodge and Miss going forward, I would appreciate it. They are <nowiki>|jname=ミス|jtrans=Miss for Miss and |jname=かわす|jtrans=Dodge for Dodge</nowiki>. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 22:57, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

== Pokémon Legend image link ==

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Pok%C3%A9mon_LEGEND.png

I noticed on this page that most if not all pages that are noted to link to the image do not contain a link or even the image itself on their pages. Most of the card pages are from the Delta Species era of the TCG. Whereas cards such as [[Lugia LEGEND (HeartGold & SoulSilver 113)|Lugia]] which do use and link to the image are not listed as linking to that image. Is this an error or did I miss something when looking through the card pages? ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 17:43, 8 June 2017 (UTC)
:[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Special:WhatLinksHere/File:Pok%C3%A9mon_LEGEND.png&limit=500 You'll want to take a look at the full list over here]. Your list is only showing the 100 pages created the longest ago. All the LEGENDS appear at the bottom of the total pages, since their era is after the initial creation of all the EX Series pages. Other than that, I believe the other pages are simply using an old template that is being phased out anyway, so there shouldn't be an issue after all is said and done. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 20:22, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

== Alternate prints from Best of XY ==

Quick question: Are the alternate prints (originally from the Best of XY) released in the Mega Powers Collection supposed to be added to their respective set pages (e.g: M-Lucario-EX FA added to Furious Fists set page) or something else like a page listing them? [[User:Metalizard|Metalizard]] ([[User talk:Metalizard|talk]]) 16:29, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
:I was thinking we make some sort of promo page for them, but then also include them in the Additional cards list on the set pages. If any come up as alternates for black star promos, then listing them in-line with the rest of the promotional cards. Does that cover all the bases? From what I know about the alternate cards, I do believe that covers it. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 23:45, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
::Ok, I think I got it. I'll create a page using the same template from the Miscellaneous promo cards/Jumbo cards (I think it's the one that fits the most in this case) and also list them in their set page like you said. Just one more question for now: The official site uses the term "Yellow A Alternate cards". I was thinking about making that the page name but also mention in the text that they are commonly referred to Alternate art prints (or something along those lines). Is that okay? [[User:Metalizard|Metalizard]] ([[User talk:Metalizard|talk]]) 15:55, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
::I just finished the page. See if everything is okay: {{TCG|Yellow A Alternate cards}}. [[User:Metalizard|Metalizard]] ([[User talk:Metalizard|talk]]) 19:40, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

== Ability List ==

Sorry it's been something like a year, but I finally finished going through the Japanese exclusives on the Pokémon Power list and I'm wondering how you'd like me to go about starting the list for Abilities (as there is currently no TCG-specific page for it), as well as how the Power table template should be changed to fit Abilites. Thanks! [[User:Yuvira|'''Yuvira''']] [[User talk:Yuvira|'''(Talk)''']] 20:52, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
:I'll get back to you on this. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 01:12, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
== Evolutions reprints ==

Should the cards with re-used art in [[Evolutions (TCG)|Evolutions]] count towards updating an illustrator in the [[List of TCG illustrators]], or should they be left alone? [[User:Yuvira|'''Yuvira''']] [[User talk:Yuvira|'''(Talk)''']] 07:30, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
:Yes. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 01:12, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
== New TCG page - Pokemon Snap Contest Winning Photos ==

While going through and adding links or updating TCG pages I noticed a few of the pages make note of Pokemon Snap contest winning photos. Does this warrant a page or is it fine to just move on and not give that a tcg page of its own? ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 15:26, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
:I don't understand the question. What page in particular? ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 01:12, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
::[[Poliwag (Base Set 59)]] for example, however; after writing this I realized they already had their own page covering them on [[Illustration contests]] ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 01:17, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

== TCG linking ==

Sorry for bothering again, I noticed when checking the main tcg pages for Pokemon that it states the Pokémon species names but does not link to that Pokémon's article. Would it be ok if I added links to their pages? Their pages link back to the tcg pages ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 01:38, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
:The header of each table on those pages is the link. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 01:39, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
::Do you mean the link for the National Pokédex order? I checked but don't see the link. For example {{p|Bulbasaur}}'s tcg section has a link to the [[Bulbasaur (TCG)|TCG]] list for their appearances in the TCG but the TCG page itself does not have a link back to the Bulbasaur article itself. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 01:44, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
:::The header of the table [[Bulbasaur_(TCG)#Bulbasaur|here]], above the line '''"Cards listed with a blue background are only legal to use in the current Expanded format."''' is the link back. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 01:45, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
::::Oh, I see it now, thank you Maverick Nate, I appreciate the help. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 01:47, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

== TCG section at the Mega Evolution article ==

I was just wondering if you'd like to just link {{DL|Mega Evolution|In the TCG|this section}} to the main {{TCG|Pokémon-EX}} article instead of listing them twice on both articles? — '''[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang]][[User talk:Ruixiang95|95]]''' 03:53, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
:And would you like the Pokémon-EX article to include Standard and Expanded format coloring? (I will do it after the new format announcement, which should be coming soon) — '''[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang]][[User talk:Ruixiang95|95]]''' 04:17, 10 July 2017 (UTC)

== SM4 Japanese names ==

Are we translating the SM4 Japanese expansions as "The Awoken Hero • The Transdimensional Beast"? I thought I asked before creating the page. And while I am here, can I request for deletion of my userspace pages: [[User:Ruixiang95/(Evolution for Future Gen Part2)|this]], [[User:Ruixiang95/(Evolve form for future generations)|this]], [[User:Ruixiang95/(Starter Pokémon)|this]], [[User:Ruixiang95/Aim to Be a Pokémon Master (single)|this]], [[User:Ruixiang95/SpritesFusion|this]] and [[User:Ruixiang95/The Greatest Everyday|this]]? Thanks ;) — '''[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang]][[User talk:Ruixiang95|95]]''' 02:37, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
:If you want a userspace page deleted put <code><nowiki>{{delete}}</nowiki></code> at the top of the page you want removed and wait for an admin to get to it. [[User:Yuvira|'''Yuvira''']] [[User talk:Yuvira|'''(Talk)''']] 03:34, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
::Hi Yuvira. It's been stated in the [[Bulbapedia:Userspace policy#Content deletion|Userspace policy]] that "...delete multiple pages...then contact an...Editorial Board member on their talk page." So since I have more than 1 pages to be deleted, I can choose to contact them. — '''[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang]][[User talk:Ruixiang95|95]]''' 03:50, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
:::I've deleted the pages. As for the set names, I've ultimately gone with '''{{TCG|Awakened Heroes}}''' and '''{{TCG|Ultradimensional Beasts}}'''. As a general rule, set names don't contain any of the articles ''a, an'' or ''the'', unless they are linguistically forced to. Additionally, Pokémon has always officially treated the past tense of the word ''wake'' to be "awakened", and has literally never used "awoken" ({{TCG|Legends Awakened}}, [[M16|Pokémon the Movie: Genesect and the Legend Awakened]], etc.). As for the other half, although transdimensional may(?{{tt|*|I say may but I'm giving more credit than deserved}}) be more common in English, another accurate translation for the suffix 超- is Ultra- instead of Trans-, which as the set is introducing [[Ultra Beast]]s from [[Ultra Space]], '''Ultradimensional Beasts''' fits the brand more accurately. I know that a certain website has already hap-haphazardly translated the set names as the names you've presented, however, they are notorious for missing how the TCG connects to the Pokémon brand and franchise as a whole (that also goes for translations of individual cards in addition to set names and such). I appreciate you coming to me first before creating the pages, because we are able push forward with the best representation of the content instead of having to retrace our steps later. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 01:04, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

== Shining Legends (English) ==

Hate to bother you, but please advise on the English Shining Legends. How are we going to differ the Japanese SM3+ and the English release for each individual card pages. Thanks. — '''[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang]][[User talk:Ruixiang95|95]]''' 20:30, 25 August 2017 (UTC)
:Can you be a little more specific with the concerns? I don't entirely think it will be a problem. Hopefully all the cards end up being released, but I don't anticipate anything preventing it from going as normal. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 00:26, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
:Sorry should have said it sooner. Regarding the card number since it's different for English and Japanese. So we just put it as Reshiram (Shining Legends 15) for Japanese and Reshiram (Shining Legends 14) for English? — '''[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang]][[User talk:Ruixiang95|95]]''' 00:32, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
::::Yeah, that's what we've done before. It had never been a problem yet. Any cards that have the same number are already the cards that belong there. Otherwise yeah, the english would just take on the new number. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 01:32, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

== Can you help? ==

So, I have a bunch of Pokemon stuff that would work well in Project Merchandise like this Pokemon Ultra Sun & Ultra Moon Official Alola Region Strategy Guide and I don't know where to put it's info in. (Actually a LOT of things!) How do I make pages and stuff like that?
--[[User:Mira Zannah|Mira]] [[User_talk:Mira Zannah|Zannah]] 16:57, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

== TCG Illustrator lists ==

This is probably not that important but thought I would ask anyways as you are the current head of the TCG. Why is it that some illustrators simply have Category lists linked for all the cards they have illustrated while others just have an in-page list? Would it not make sense to have artists who have far longer lists be given collapsible tables with lists for each card from each set they have made? I plan to expand some of the TCG illustrator lists later but I do not want to touch the pages of artists who have extensive lists before then. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 12:06, 10 June 2018 (UTC)
:It all came down to time and man-power. The pages that are only three sentences and then a massive list of pages were the old style, and we were in the middle of converting them into actually informative pages. Since we already had pages that were lists of illustrated cards (categories), we removed them from the information pages because there's no reason repeating such trivial bulk stats. [[Masakazu Fukuda]] and [[Atsuko Nishida]] are the style of illustrator pages we're looking for. Anything that currently still has the list of cards illustrated are outdated compared to what we are currently looking for. We just didn't make it to update those ones yet. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 03:02, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
::If you think about it, pages like [[Shizurow]] and [[Miki Tanaka]] literally say nothing about the illustrator at all. They should talk about their contribution to the card game, their personalized style, the types of times they get contracted to illustrate for not only the TCG but all promotional media, etc, etc. [https://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-news/shining-a-light-on-new-card-art/ Pokemon.com] and other official websites occasionally release content detailing the illustrators, and we should compile content like that instead a bunch of links and lists that say nothing about the person at all. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 03:14, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

== Username Change ==

Hi there, was hoping I could get my username changed/updated to "danke", which is my most common translation username. Let me know if this is possible. Thanks. [[User:Mefredbob|Mefredbob]] ([[User talk:Mefredbob|talk]]) 20:17, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

== About List of Abilities ==

Sorry for any bother due by my changes on Pokémon Power article. The Outdated template on top of the page is confusing: it says that the article needs list of abilities. Also, Pokémon Power article, when it talk about Abilities, link to the Ability article, which states that Abilities are a renaming of Pokémon Powers. Should we delete that template and modify that statement maybe?
This template {{TCG|Ability}} redirect to {{TCG|Pokémon Power}} too.
Anyway, I have just noticed that the user {{User|Yuvira}}(previously RetroKitty) asked you about a possible List of Ability more than one year ago. Also just read a secion named "Lists (Again)" on your Talk page.
Given that Yuvira seems no longer active and given that we still need a list of Abilities on Bulbapedia, is there any chance of using what I've already written, for a new section which can be integrated in the Ability article? [[User:Laspandrea|Laspandrea]] ([[User talk:Laspandrea|talk]]) 11:30, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
:Absolutely! Sorry, I meant to get back to you about that. If you want to edit the content of [[Ability (TCG)]] to be a page about Abilities in the card game and use what you've already written, that would be the best course of action. Thematically, card affects that affect Pokémon Powers and card effects that affect Abilities are not interchangable, so we need to keep the two concepts separate from one another. Other editors who don't understand the difference probably added those "Ability content needed" tags to the Power page. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 23:54, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

== Talk ==

Hello, Maverick. How are you? I have been blocked from the Archieves for quite a long time. I wanted to talk about something there, but no luck. And I didn’t mean to have a problem there and I want to help there again. So, if there’s anyway I can get unblocked? I want an adjustment.--[[User:CoolPokeGuy|CoolPokéGuy]] ([[User talk:CoolPokeGuy|Talk]]) 23:56, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

== Japanese cards only in latest expansions? ==

Hi,in the latest expansions,almost all the cards from the galleries are in their Japanese versions,is this intended? If not,I have many cards from these expansions,I could scan them and upload them. {{unsigned|Leonardo828}}
:If you could get the English prints, that will be nice. Only English versions, cards in other languages are not allowed. The scans should be clear and easy to see, most probably without any wear and tear. Remember to upload them in .jpg format. Thanks. — '''[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang]][[User talk:Ruixiang95|95]]''' 08:41, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

== Pokemon Advanced Action Flipz 2003 ==

Hey Maverick,

Currently, there is no distinguishing between 2003/2006 Advanced Action Flipz,

2003 Flipz have different copyright and released in different booster packs,

I am requiring a setlist/ new page created for this set? Is this possible?

Also updated 2006 advanced action flip imagery would be great,

Happy to pay, reach out at connor@gradedgem.com

thanks

Connor {{unsigned|GroudonKing}}

== Reverting ==

Why'd you revert nearly all my recent edits?[[User:Huntress|Huntress]] ([[User talk:Huntress|talk]]) 22:59, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
:Long story short, the tag that you were adding wasn't value added. We do a lot of independent reporting and research for Project TCG here. A lot of the resources that are used are official print materials and/or the scans we have present on every card page, etc. Your edits involved a sweeping change to how things are done to tens of thousands of articles on the website, and with such a vast change, it needs to be approved by the proper channels to organize efforts to make all these changes, instead of just a random tag to a small random assortment of pages. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 03:15, 10 December 2019 (UTC)

== Request to change, divide, remove and renew "List of Pokémon Trading Card Game expansions" ==

Throughout the history of this page there has been suggestions to divide the page into List of English Pokémon Trading Card Game expansions and List of Pokémon Japanese Trading Card Game expansions.

The English primary focus has meant that Japanese info is sometimes wrong eg set icons or missing eg set abbreviations many Japanese sets are also missing. This has also led to COMPLETELY ignoring sets released in other languages meaning it is extremely difficult to find what languages had which sets. The way the page is set also means that mini-sets and promos are also ignored.

I am requesting approval to remove the "List of Pokémon Trading Card Game expansions" page and replace it with the following pages;

-List of English Pokémon Trading Card Game Sets - where most of the info will be transferred but also include promo-sets and mini-sets without increasing the sets number.

-List of Japanese Pokémon Trading Card Game Sets - where most of the info will be transferred but also include promo-sets and mini-sets without increasing the sets number.

-List of German Pokémon Trading Card Game Sets

-List of French Pokémon Trading Card Game Sets

-List of Dutch Pokémon Trading Card Game Sets

-List of Spanish Pokémon Trading Card Game Sets

-List of Korean Pokémon Trading Card Game Sets

-List of Chinese Pokémon Trading Card Game Sets

[[User:The1pokedude1|The1pokedude1]] ([[User talk:The1pokedude1|talk]]) 22:21, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
:I'd like to see your idea in action! Feel free to draft up these pages in your Userspace (i.e. create pages at [[User:The1pokedude1/List of English Pokémon Trading Card Game Sets]]) and show them to me when you are done! ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 23:29, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

:: These are the pages so far.
[[User:The1pokedude1/List of English Pokémon Trading Card Game Sets]]

[[User:The1pokedude1/List_of_Japanese_Pokémon_Trading_Card_Game_Sets]]

[[User:The1pokedude1/List of Chinese Pokémon Trading Card Game Sets]]

[[User:The1pokedude1/List of Thai Pokémon Trading Card Game Sets]]

[[User:The1pokedude1/List of Dutch Pokémon Trading Card Game Sets]]

I've also noticed that there far more English and Japanese sets that are not set for set comparisons, which furthers the point for splitting.
[[User:The1pokedude1|The1pokedude1]] ([[User talk:The1pokedude1|talk]]) 18:12, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

== Sample Set Info ==

Hi there, I've signed up for BP just to ask you a question about Sample Set. It seems you've made some substantial contributions to articles about some cards from this set – my interest in Sample Set comes from the fact it used e-Card ID numbers in the format M-##; this is the same ID number format assigned to the 9 cards in EX Team Magma VS Team Aqua that supported the e-Card technology. In trying to figure out why these nine cards, which use ID numbers M-01, M-03, M-04, M-15, M-16, M-23, M-24, and M-70, have so many gaps in sequence, without any apparent cards from EX Team Magma VS Team Aqua, that would fill in the gaps, I stumbled on the fact Sample Set used M-## as well.

My first thought was a-ha, case closed. However, M-04 Sample is Koffing, and M-04 TMvTA is Psyduck. I've drafted a write-up about my interest in these cards [[https://medium.com/@INTERNETFRIEND_83649/an-unknown-and-unsolved-mystery-of-the-pokémon-e-tcg-ex-team-magma-vs-team-aqua-and-sample-set-e12608909f7f]]; I'm wondering if you have any more information about these cards or could point me in the direction of resources or individuals that might; if there's any info or interest, I'd love for you to reach out to me on Twitter at @NICOTINEFRIEND or by email at pokvarensocialscene@gmail.com

Thanks. {{unsigned|INTERNETFRIEND}}

== Question for Maverick Nate ==

Good evening!

I sent you a note on the E4 forum about potentially adding a page to BP for the 1997 Tomy Pokemon Scratch Card set.

For starters, here is a great intro guide to these cards here within E4 by majomaal:
efour.proboards.com/thread/12666/tomy-1997-pockemon-scratch-card

I also sent you scans of all of my cards in a Google drive, but I don't want to post that publicly here.

Can you please check your e4 mail for that link? Or else, please email me at info@acciosearch.com

Thanks!
Accio

== Hello and best wishes ==

Hey Nate, not sure if you'll see this (or if you remember me!) - hope you've been well! I noticed on the front page just now that you're no longer in charge of Bulbapedia's TCG and thought I'd drop you a message. Firstly, congratulations on steering the ship for so long - we both started on the project at roughly the same time, which must be ''at least ten flipping years ago'' at this point - some things change, but apparently our shared soft spot for the TCG hasn't, despite how much the game itself has. I think it's absolutely incredible and impressive beyond words that you've been involved in the project for so long and goes to show how valued you must be. On the (not so rare) occasion that I find myself reminiscing about classic TCG, I always find myself here - you and your team have built up an incredible resource over the years. Whatever you're up to these days, I hope you're keeping well. All the best, and take care! Jack, aka [[User:Cipher|'''''Cipher''''']] [[User talk:Cipher|'''''(Talk)''''']] 20:43, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
:Hello, I am going to piggyback on this to also say thanks for all you have done. When I first joined, you made me feel more at home from the harsh criticism I was getting. Those were some of my very first Wiki edits anywhere, and I went on to do thousands more! '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 07:38, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

== Jolteon (GB Mystery scan) ==

What was the name of the price guide that the scan of this non-existent card came from? Since there were other GB-only cards, were there other made up cards in the guide, such as Ninetales? Thanks!

[[User:IkeLawliet|IkeLawliet]] ([[User talk:IkeLawliet|talk]]) 02:02, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

== Poképhilia ==
I would like to make a page for Poképhilia. This is what I would write:

'''Poképhilia''' is a paraphilia where [[Humans]] possess a sexual and, or, romantic attraction towards [[Pokémon (species)|Pokémon]].

=== Overview ===
==== Ancient Times ====
The full history of Poképhilia in the franchise has largely been left ambiguous and open to interpretation for the most part, however, throughout the franchise, there have been notable clues and references about Humans in the distant past who had participated in romantic and possibly even sexual relationships with Pokémon.

This is arguably best shown in the ''[[Sinnoh_myths#Sinnoh_Folk_Tales|Sinnoh Folk Story 3]]'', in which there can be found an excerpt of a supposed myth or legend implying that Humans and Pokémon were once free to be married.

: ''"There once were Pokémon that''

: ''became very close to humans.''

: ''There once were humans and Pokémon''

: ''that ate together at the same table.''

: ''It was a time when there existed no''

: ''differences to distinguish the two."''
==== Modern Age ====
It's uncertain if Poképhilia still occurs in the modern world or if it is now largely seen as a taboo.
=== Trivia ===
*Some fans have theorized that one of the reasons why certain Humans in the franchise are capable of using strange powers such as [[aura]] or [[telepathy]] is because they may have been descended from a previous union between Humans and Pokémon though this remains unconfirmed.

([[User:Misery Vex|Misery Vex]] ([[User talk:Misery Vex|talk]]) 00:36, 1 December 2022 (UTC))
:Without commenting on the subject matter, the lack of actual factual information deems this as an non-notable page subject. Sorry! ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 02:02, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

== Spanish and Italian name lists ==

I'm thinking of mainspacing [[User:C.Ezra.M/List of Spanish Pokémon names]] and [[User:C.Ezra.M/List of Italian Pokémon names]], can I do that now? Other than the edits required to two protected templates ({{template|Lop/foreign}} and {{template|Lop/foreignhead}}), showing the templates that categorize, and moving images, I think both pages are ready. --'''''[[User:C.Ezra.M|C.Ezra.M]]''''' ([[User talk:C.Ezra.M|T]]/[[Special:Contribs/C.Ezra.M|C]]) 19:00, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

== Rising Volteccers dub names ==

The Rising Volteccers got their dub names out, can you change the file names for all the members? ([[User:CuteSylveon42|CuteSylveon42]] ([[User talk:CuteSylveon42|talk]]) 13:05, 24 March 2023 (UTC))
:It looks like someone else got to this before I did. Thanks for the heads up! ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 09:29, 26 March 2023 (UTC)

== I'm sorry ==
I didn't know that non-basic energy card images cycle.[[User:AsusE410MA|AsusE410MA]] ([[User talk:AsusE410MA|talk]]) 18:20, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

== change archive file name? ==

Could you change the file named, Liko Roomate.png, to "Ann HZ Anime.png"?
[[User:QuickJolteon|QuickJolteon]] ([[User talk:QuickJolteon|talk]]) 13:35, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
:Look's like this was already taken care of! ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 15:20, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

== Discord DM ==

(If you haven't seen it yet) I want to let you know, I've send you a DM on Discord . [[User:QuickJolteon|QuickJolteon]] ([[User talk:QuickJolteon|talk]]) 02:01, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

== Pocket Monsters Encyclopedia ==

Can you help resolve [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:Ultra_Ray#Pocket_Monsters_Encyclopedia this conflict], which esentially is an edit war? I think everything was already said in this discussion and someone should decide what to do next.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket]] [[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Grunt]]''' 10:45, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

== Can you help? ==

I made a page move: Pokémon Trading Card Game 2: The Invasion of Team GR! to [[Pokémon Trading Card Game 2: The Invasion of Team GR! (game)]]

and after, it says, "A redirect has been created. To also modify links to this page in other pages, go to Special:ReplaceText.", for which which I am not authorised. [[User:Finger|Finger]] ([[User talk:Finger|talk]]) 00:01, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

Oh, and I hope our women beat your women today :) [[User:Finger|Finger]] ([[User talk:Finger|talk]]) 00:19, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

Can you also clarify whether [[Pokémon Trading Card Game 2: The Invasion of Team GR!]], now reverted by Junior Admin 4iamking, is a game like [[Pokémon Trading Card Game (video game)]] and qualifies to have the (game) appendix despite there being no disambiguous CG2 Card Game, as both are in <nowiki>[[Category:Pokémon Trading Card Game video games]]</nowiki> [[User:Finger|Finger]] ([[User talk:Finger|talk]]) 02:33, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

The reason I moved it in the first place was because it was helpful to be able to use the ga template, which I read are preferred over direct links, due to CPU overheads? or something like that. [[User:Finger|Finger]] ([[User talk:Finger|talk]]) 02:41, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
:The <code><nowiki>{{ga}}</nowiki></code> template is preferred over <code><nowiki>[[____(game)|____]]</nowiki></code>a direct link when the disambiguation is used. But theres no need to force usage of that template when the page names dont work with it. When we add the (game) to a page name, the only reason for doing so would be if the name of the game conflicts with some other property and we need to disambiguate between the two, this isn't the case here so thats why I reverted your move. '''[[User:4iamking|4iamking]]''' 09:42, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

Then what was the point of creating the ga template in the first place if it isn't to be utilised for the purposed it was designed? [[User:Finger|Finger]] ([[User talk:Finger|talk]]) 13:11, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
:It is used for what it's designed to do, the purpose of link templates in general is to ease up on the code when linking to pages that have a disambiguation as exampled above, that we dont want to include in the articles text. That's games like {{OBP|Pokémon Ranger|video game}} or {{OBP|Pokémon Trading Card Game|video game}}. The template is designed for such situations, not to link to every game where a disambiguation isn't required, since you can just do that with a standard link, and making a template for that would be adding complexity, not removing it. '''[[User:4iamking|4iamking]]''' 13:32, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

== [[Pokémon card art life]] ==

Hi, I am trying to update this article but I do not know where to find the list of border and background colours, e.g. snoozing color dark, and what criteria is used when deciding what to choose for each entry. [[User:Finger|Finger]] ([[User talk:Finger|talk]]) 01:13, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
:I'm not generally the one who updates the page as new ones come out, but I believe the color templates are simply added based on whatever the contributor thinks fits the theme the best. The list of all possible choices should be viewable here: [[:Category:Color templates]] ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 04:31, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

== Hello ==

Hello I saw you did something to Force Fire's profile. Can you create one of his articles which was a sandbox for a very long time? This one [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User:Force_Fire/Team_Rocket%27s_arsenal&action=edit&redlink=1] I added lots of arsenal to it. It is a list the excludes mechas. Thanks. [[User:Eastern Goldfinch|Eastern Goldfinch]] ([[User talk:Eastern Goldfinch|talk]]) 12:52, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
:Hi! I did you one better and moved it to the mainspace [[Team Rocket's arsenal|here]]. Thanks for putting effort into it over the years. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 13:04, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
::Thank you very much sir. See you soon. [[User:Eastern Goldfinch|Eastern Goldfinch]] ([[User talk:Eastern Goldfinch|talk]]) 09:49, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

== Mainspaced page history ==

Hello, I saw that you were able to merge history for two different userspace pages when mainspacing them into [[Terapagos (anime)]]. Would you also be able to do the same for [[Kitakami Ogre Clan]]? [[User:Minibug/Kitakami Ogre Clan]] had been around for a while, with a very decent amount of content, when someone else directly made a mainspace page (with far less content, I might add). The content from the userspace page was eventually copy pasted into the mainspace article, but it'd be great if the article history could be restored too, to give the original authors' hard work credit. Thanks, → [[User:SuperPikaPool13|Pika]][[User talk:SuperPikaPool13|Tepig]][[Special:Contribs/SuperPikaPool13|999]] 06:25, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
:I looked into it and checked with minibug. While it is possible to do after the fact, merging page histories is best done in the moment when there are no overlapping times. Trying to do that now, in an attempt to preserve two edits, will just make the history bounce back and forth between the at-the-moment two separate pages. I don't think this is the right move, but I appreciate you looking out! ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 10:23, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

== Size reduction ==

Fixed. [[User:Finger|Finger]] ([[User talk:Finger|talk]]) 01:27, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

== How to format articles for books only featured as one half of a flip book ==

Hello. You are listed as a contact for Project Merchandise, so I figured you could answer my question. I contacted nuva-kal, the other Project Merchandise contact, a couple days ago about this, but he hasn't responded yet. So I figured it may be good to ask you as well.

I recently found a collection of 4 Pokémon flip books published by Scholastic in 2021, and they appear to be totally undocumented on Bulbapedia. The collection as a whole is called the "Pokémon Super Special Chapter Book Collection", and each of the flip books is labelled as "Super Special Flip Book #x". With the exception of the two stories in Super Special Flip Book #4, [[I Choose You! (book)|I Choose You!]] and [[Ash Ketchum, Pokémon Detective]], all of the stories in the collection appear to have been adapted specifically for this collection, and do not exist outside of it. For instance, Super Special Flip Book #1 contains "Gigantamax Clash" and "Battle for the Z-Ring", and neither of these exist as standalone books, at least as far as I could find.

So my question is this. Should separate articles be created for each individual story? For instance, Gigantamax Clash would get its own page, Battle for the Z-Ring would get its own page, etc.? Or should both of those be folded into a single article on Super Special Flip Book #1? If each story gets its own page, should separate pages also be made for the flip books themselves? For instance, should there be articles on Gigantamax Clash, Battle for the Z-Ring, and Super Special Flip Book #1? And should the collection as a whole have its own page?

Thank you.
[[User:Red Knight|Red Knight]] ([[User talk:Red Knight|talk]]) 22:17, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

I have found a standalone version of another of the flip books featured in this collection: Helena Mayer's "The Power of Three," featured in Super Special Flip Book #3. It may yet be possible that all of these books exist in standalone form, just not documented on Bulbapedia. If that does turn out to be the case, then that at least resolves the question posed by the section title. However, I am still curious about how articles about the flip books or collections of flip books should be handled.

[[User:Red Knight|Red Knight]] ([[User talk:Red Knight|talk]]) 20:50, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
:I think it really depends on how much we can say about each one. For now, I would say write out a draft in your userspace somewhere of what an ideal page would look like. I'm inclined to say each story deserves its own page, with a page on the series of items as a whole, but I'm not really familiar with the topic so it's hard to for me to envision what those articles look like. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 00:08, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

Sounds good. I'll see what I can come up with. [[User:Red Knight|Red Knight]] ([[User talk:Red Knight|talk]]) 00:50, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

== Reversion ==

https://m.bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=151_(TCG)&oldid=3902975 Why has this been left in a state of inconsistency and why just these few numbers spelt alphabetically? [[User:Finger|Finger]] ([[User talk:Finger|talk]]) 22:43, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

== Note to Archaic ==
i liked da old bulbapedia setup better from be4 da maintenance, now it just looks like wikipedia and pages r less smooth :( :( :( ---[[User:Thwackeyrabootdrizzile|Thwackey]][[User talk:Thwackeyrabootdrizzile|raboot]][[Special:Random|drizzile]] 04:52, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
:If you would like to provide a unique experience to the wiki when you are logged in, you can code your own style by writing a personal monobook.css page. I have one myself [[User:Maverick Nate/monobook.css]]. You can find everything you need to know on {{wp|Help:User style}}. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 12:03, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

== Re: User rename change==
Hi! Excellent to hear, thank you. I'd like for my username to be changed to "PorygonA" if possible. [[User:PorygonA|PorygonA]] ([[User talk:PorygonA|talk]]) 04:01, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
: Awesome, thank you! Would it be also possible to delete the redirect for the User page and Talk page? Also, I am unable to edit my userpage, [https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/809930889852092437/1237252810483961926/image.png?ex=663af8f9&is=6639a779&hm=dfac778d70c6939d0027ca21b32ccbdd654ef88c19fbdfd5f53c75ba54951eb3& here's a screenshot of what I see on my end]. Admittedly, out of date now that the username change has gone through. [[User:PorygonA|PorygonA]] ([[User talk:PorygonA|talk]]) 02:40, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
:: Gotcha. As I've been replaying, there is a project I want to do, so I can edit things. But: Would it be at all possible for you to just delete the userpage and all prior revisions? It has some information on it, namely my high school, that I put there when I was younger, and I'd really like to have that removed completely. [[User:PorygonA|PorygonA]] ([[User talk:PorygonA|talk]]) 03:42, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
::: Thank you so much! [[User:PorygonA|PorygonA]] ([[User talk:PorygonA|talk]]) 12:37, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

== Ryan Reynolds ==

Hi, I know it's been a while, but I finally managed to get around doing the [[User:SuperPikaPool13/Ryan Reynolds]] page you shared earlier this year. [[User:MasterFrostyShake|MasterFrostyShake]] ([[User talk:MasterFrostyShake|talk]]) 00:46, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

== Editing War assistance on Pokemon League (Hoenn) ==

Hello Maverick, I was wondering if you could please look into the [[Pokémon League (Hoenn)]] page, as I have had two people undo a revision without discussion on the talk page. I have invited people to discuss on the page so we can come to a common consensus, but a second person just came in to revert it again and I would like to get an administrator to weigh in, if possible. Thank you! [[User:Cinder24|Cinder24]] ([[User talk:Cinder24|talk]]) 06:30, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
:I actually just noticed that Storm Aurora has already been involved with the discussion, so I will bring it up to him. Sorry for the disturbance! You can still check on the page if you'd like though! [[User:Cinder24|Cinder24]] ([[User talk:Cinder24|talk]]) 06:47, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
::One more note: I just noticed that the second person who reverted my edit without any discussion is Force Fire, somebody who I noticed you recently had issues with in regards to his treatment of other Bulbapedia contributors. I just felt that the blunt nature of his edit wasn't really called for, so I wanted to bring it up. I am relatively new to Bulbapedia and I am still learning what the norm is for editing notes, so I am not sure if it is something that is unacceptable or not. If his editing note was satisfactory, then you can ignore this paragraph. However I just felt that there could have been some dialogue, so if you think that it wasn't handled in the best way, I would really appreciate a weigh-in! Thank you, and sorry for the large amount of text! [[User:Cinder24|Cinder24]] ([[User talk:Cinder24|talk]]) 07:39, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

== A troll recently made a 235 character username on Nookipedia ==

Is it possible to shorten character limit to about 20 characters (if not more) to prevent any people from making disruptively long usernames like this in the future? [[User:Pikmin3WiiU|Pikmin 3]] [[User talk:Pikmin3WiiU|Wii U]] 04:45, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
:Hi! Sorry, for the late response. It was recommended to me that you look at your [[MediaWiki:Titleblacklist]], or look into this configuration setting in MediaWiki [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgMaxNameChars here]. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 06:11, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

== Bulbapedia block appeal ==

It's after August 19, 2024, and I humbly ask if there's a possibility for me to be unblocked so I can edit the following pages:
*{{cat|Hybrid consoles}}
*[[Nintendo Switch]]
*[[Nintendo Switch Lite]]
*[[Nintendo Switch – OLED Model]]
*[[Pokémon of myth|Pokémon of Myth]]
*[[Pokémon of myth (Adventures)|Pokémon of Myth (Adventures)]]
First of all, I got permanently blocked from editing the Nintendo Switch pages on October 27, 2021 for [[Bulbapedia:Blocking policy#Edit/revert wars|edit warring]], and second of all, I got permanently blocked from editing the Pokémon of Myth pages on March 4, 2022 for changing the text "creation trio" to "primordial chaos" [[List of local English event Pokémon distributions in Generation V|here]] and tagging "Creation trio" and "Creation trio (Adventures)" for moving to "Primordial chaos" and "Primordial chaos (Adventures)" respectively. I believe my appeal should be accepted because I want to make better edits on the Nintendo Switch pages and the Pokémon of Myth pages. I also want to let you know, on August 25, 2023, [[User:Jacob9594|another user]] moved the pages "Creation trio" and "Creation trio (Adventures)" to "Pokémon of Myth" and "Pokémon of Myth (Adventures)" respectively because "Pokémon of Myth" is the official term referring to a legendary trio consisting of {{p|Dialga}}, {{p|Palkia}}, and {{p|Giratina}}. Finally, if I'm unblocked, I will keep the Nintendo Switch and the Nintendo Switch – OLED Model considered to be a hybrid console (both a home console and a handheld console), discuss a major change, addition, and/or removal, and never tag the hybrid consoles category for deletion. Thanks! [[User:SaturnMario|SaturnMario]], [[User talk:SaturnMario|his talk]] and [[Special:Contributions/SaturnMario|his contributions]] 19:17, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
:So, I'll be very upfront here. Your block appeal is denied, and here's why. While the one year time frame offered to you has expired, your actions during that one year time frame indicate to me that you haven't used that time to learn ''why'' you were banned in the first place and improve. Your bans are in place because of edit warring by re-adding controversial edits over and over throughout the pages' histories. Even after your previous blocks expired, you went back to continue the edit warring without using the talk pages to discuss your edits with others. Bulbapedia is a collaborative space, so it begs input from everyone. You are blocked from editing the pages because the staff team finds it necessary for you to use talk pages to ask about your controverisal edits and come to a consensus with other editors on what should be changed on the pages. Honestly, until we see that happen, any future block appeals are going to be denied. You don't *need* to have access to edit those pages to make an impact on them. The talk pages are still there and open for you to contribute to.
:Because I think it's valuable to offer you another time frame, any block appeals in between now and '''September 1, 2025''' will not be considered. But, because I think it needs to be said, until we see you '''use talk pages to discuss edits with others''', it is highly unlikely that any future block appeals will be approved. We need some sort of indication that you've learned the lessons that brought about the blocks in the first place. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 23:56, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

== Composer's birthday ==

Hello, I would like to ask if someone's tweets are a reliable source for their birthday. The composer in question was congratulated on a specific date and replied to the people who congratulated them. Would this be enough proof? And if you're not the person to ask this, could you please refer me to someone who is? Thank you. [[User:Kikugi|Kikugi]] ([[User talk:Kikugi|talk]]) 03:04, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
:I'm inclined to say yes, but let me confer with some people first. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 04:57, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

==Nebby (anime)==

Okay, since nobody is bothering to answering my questions, you're the only one I can turn to. Do you think we should move your page, [[User:Maverick Nate/Nebby (anime)]], into a separate page? Now that I gave it the information it needed, I think it deserves a mainspace. [[User:Seabiscuit2020|Seabiscuit2020]] ([[User talk:Seabiscuit2020|talk]]) 16:41, 01 Semptember 2024 (UTC)

:That page wasn't really waiting for updates, it's mostly waiting for judgement calls on how the [[Nebby]] page can be rewritten in a sensible way.
:But for now, we aren't exactly ruling on any current drafts for anime characters while we work through the [[Pokémon animated series]] corrections. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 02:07, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

== Chien-Pao ex Asian-countries stamps ==

Hey Nate, I've noticed the {{TCG|Paldea Evolved}} page says there are 8 stamped versions of Chien-Pao ex 061. 4 countries (HK, Malaysia, Philippines, Singapore) which is fine, but 2 versions for each country (according to your edit on the PAL page). What is the difference between the 2 versions? I'm confused by the 'Regional' vs non-regional wording. Just trying to clarify things, maybe they're the same versions and were added erroneously, and there are only 4. Thanks in advance! {{unsigned|mattfeeder18}}
:Hi! What I'm pretty sure is, the Championship stamp is a [https://efour.b-cdn.net/uploads/default/original/3X/3/6/36e7062271f890ba0404c622ae74bed338f927d3.jpeg yellow stamp that doesn't note the specific tournament], but the Regionals stamp is a [https://efour.b-cdn.net/uploads/default/original/3X/b/9/b93165abe26968114518e094b097d3761faaaddb.jpeg blue stamp that says 'regionals']. Hope this helps! ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 23:21, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
::That really does help, thank you! I hadn't seen the yellow stamp variant, so I know what I'm looking for (and for future cards). Thanks for the info! -- [[User:Mattfeeder18|mattfeeder18]] ([[User talk:Mattfeeder18|talk]]) 00:10, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

== Re:Japanese attack translations ==

Hey there!

First of all, I'd like to thank you for your time and patience to make sure the translations were up-to-date with mine; as a fellow wiki staff member, I totally get where you're coming from, and trust me I know that headache all too well.

Duly noted, next time I'll head to that page with a list whenever the articles for a new TCG Pocket set are complete.

Apologies for any inconveniences,
[[User:Nepepper|Nepepper]] ([[User talk:Nepepper|talk]]) 05:02, 6 January 2025 (UTC).

==Space-Time Smackdown fixed TLs.==

Hey there. Following up on our last conversation, I made a list of re-TLs. I'll probably update it later when the wiki has all Space-Time Smackdown cards.

*ひとやすみ (Hitoyasumi) ➔ Break
*ディメンションストーム (Dimenshon Sutoomu) ➔ Dimension Storm
*メタルターボ (Metaru Taabo) ➔ Metal Turbo
*ファイティングコーチ (Faitingu Koochi) ➔ Fighting Coach
*どくのムチ (Doku no Muchi) ➔ Poisonous Whip
*うみのおくりもの (Umi no Okurimono) ➔ Oceanic Gift
*エキサイトボルト (Ekisaito Boruto) ➔ Excite Volt ("Volt" instead of "Bolt" due to Thunderbolt's TL, "100,000 Volts")
*はたく (Hataku) ➔ Pound
*マジカルトリップ (Majikaru Torippu) ➔ Magical Trip
*バルーンアタック (Baruun Atakku) ➔ Baloon Attack
*エナジーブレード (Enajii Bureedo) ➔ Energy Blade
*ナイトメアオーラ (Naitomea Oora) ➔ Nightmare Aura
*ダークプリズム (Daaku Purizumu) ➔ Dark Prism
*がんめんガード (Ganmen Gaado) ➔ Rocky Face Guard (from 岩面)
*ヘッドバング (Heddobangu) ➔ Headbang
*あらけずり (Arakezuri) ➔ Roughhewn
*ベロベロラッシュ (Berobero Rasshu) ➔ Licking Rush
*バグビーム (Bagu Biimu) ➔ Bug Beam
*わしづかみ (Washi Zukami) ➔ Firm Clutch (can also be TL'd as "Clutching Eagle" since it contains 鷲, but I'm not too sure if other Pokémon that get this are also part Flying-type)
*トランスメロディ (Toransu Merodi) ➔ Trance Melody
*ウィップダウン (Wippu Daun) ➔ Whip Down
*うずまくわざわい (Uzumaku Wazawai) ➔ Swirling Disaster
*みんなでしばく (Minna de Shibaku) ➔ Everyone Beats Up
*きどる (Kidoru) ➔ Pretend
*じゃまする (Jamasuru) ➔ Interrupt
*やきこがす (Yaki Kogasu) ➔ Searing Heat
*ぶちかます (Buchikamasu) ➔ Headfirst Strike
*フロストダンプ (Furosuto Danpu) ➔ Frost Dump
*でんきのツメ (Denki no Tsume) ➔ Electric Claws
*ふくらむ (Fukuramu) ➔ Inflate (most Pokémon that get this are inspired by balloons...)
*やみのキバ (Yami no Kiba) ➔ Darkness Fang
*せんぷう (Senpuu) ➔ Whirlwind
*ポケモン通信 (Pokemon Tsuujin) ➔ Pokémon Communication
*マインドブースト (Maindo Buusuto) ➔ Mind Boost
*たたきつぶす (Tataki Tsubusu) ➔ Wrecking Strike
*かいてんアタック (Kaiten Atakku) ➔ Spinning Attack
*ころがりタックル (Koragari Takkuru) ➔ Rolling Tackle
*大きなマント (Ooki na Manto) ➔ Giant Mantle

Kind regards,
[[User:Nepepper|Nepepper]] ([[User talk:Nepepper|talk]]) 16:51, 23 January 2025 (UTC).
:I appreciate you including the ones that you added translations for. Since katakana tend to be pretty straightforward most of the time, we probably don't need to worry too much about those ones.
:I do think you are onto something with Hitoyasumi though. Since {{m|Rest}} already used ''Rest'', it's probably good to change anyway. We do run into some conflicts because of the card with おひるね. I looked into some of the other places ひとやすみ/一休み came up, and the one that stood out to me was Hitmonchan's {{game|X}} Pokédex entry. It talks about resting after bouts of fighting. I'm wondering if ''Break'' would be fine. (I asked my Japanese colleagues and they informed me that hitoyasumi doesn't always include a nap; can also include things like a coffee break after work.) ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 04:08, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
:Looking at the [[Teddiursa (Neo Discovery 65)|Teddiursa]] card itself, and also the [[:Category:Cards with Rest]], I'm actually beginning to think that 'Nap' is a slightly misleading localization in and of itself. Those other cards cause the Pokemon using the attack to fall {{TCG|Asleep}}, so it's a little odd that an attack named Nap....doesn't. Makes me think that the original intended meaning of the attack was in fact closer to ''Break'' instead of Rest/Nap/Anything that involves Sleeping. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 04:15, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
----
::Alright, seeing your efforts to make it an actual good TL, I'll rightfully change it to "Break" whenever possible then.

::Adding to this, I'm only including the moves in katakana because some of these articles just used Google TL and hoped for the best.

::[[User:Nepepper|Nepepper]] ([[User talk:Nepepper|talk]]) 10:21, 30 January 2025 (UTC).
:::Okay, I went through everything. There were maybe 1 or 2 that I shifted back to what we had before, but most everything else I found to be reasonable. Still working out what to do with [[:Category:Cards with Expand]]. While most of them are balloons, there's also a collection of sheep and other cottoney things that make me think the intention is a bit different than ''inflate''. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 04:24, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

== Could you please help settle a dispute? ==

Basically, I think we should mention Mythical Pokemon (including Darkrai) are necessary to get shiny Enamorus on Enamorus's own page. [[User:ButSmeargleCan'tUseTheMove|ButSmeargleCan'tUseTheMove]] disagrees. I don't think either of us will change our minds, am I'm not sure what else to do, so I'm asking any staff I can find. Can you please help settle the dispute? All the details are in [[User talk:Unowninator#Enamorus|my talk page]]. Thanks. [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 05:02, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

== I am back ==

Hello, I just wanted to let you know that I'm trying to solve some of the problems I had accessing Bulbapedia. In the next few days I'll have to configure my data and passwords, but from now on, I'll try to continue my work here at Bulbapedia. That's also the reason why I'm sending a message here and not through discord. I'm organizing some folders and files on my computer.--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 23:26, 31 January 2025 (UTC)
:Glad to hear you are back! I meant to get back to you, but work pulled away all my undivided attention. I'll send a follow up message to our conversation. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 01:26, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

== A few questions about merchandise and cards ==

Hello,

I saw your name on the project Merchandise contacts and on your userpage you mentioned that you're "head of the TCG", so I have a few questions for you:

1. I'm currently adding infos on merchandise to pages of Items from the games (since that's what I'm interested in; see the [[Tamato_Berry#Merchandise|Tamato Berry]] page for an example); do you think it'd also make sense to add a category like "Item there's merchandise of" or to create a new page listing all merchandise featuring Items for whoever (else) might be interested in that specifically?

2. I saw several cards featuring locations or items in their illustrations; do you think it'd make sense to add a category regarding that to their pages here and/or their image files over on archives? Or should I create a page listing all cards that do?

2.5. Do you know if there's any particular reason the "In the TCG" sections of location pages feature a table? (see [[Castelia_City#In_the_TCG|Castelia City]] for an example)
It has been done as a gallery for [[Substitute_(doll)#In_the_TCG|the Substitute doll]], and I prefer that, to be honest (since I think it's about the images, not the information featured in those tables). (I'd also change the tables to galleries myself if that's ok?) (and I'll add some cards I noticed are missing from the current lists)

Er... I'm not sure if you're also the person to ask about the following (or who that would be), but...
3. Do you think it'd make sense to create a category and/or a new page for everything in the Pokémon games that has been inspired by the Japanese culture? There's trivia scattered all around, but I was wondering if it should be compiled somewhere for whoever might be interested? (and there might be things I know of that haven't been mentioned on Bulbapedia yet)

[[User:Moribundead|Moribundead]] ([[User talk:Moribundead|talk]]) 21:29, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
:Hi! I've seen your work. It's exciting to see it! We were also [[User:Lakelimbo/Sandbox/MerchTest|working on something]] that might interest you for later down the road, but this content on the item pages looks good so far! I'll answer your questions in order.
:1) I don't think there's necessarily a strong need for such a category on the main wiki. Maybe some sort of reference (in your userspace or something) would be good to keep track of what item pages you have already added to. That or possibly an Archives category?
:2) For this question too, I don't think a main wiki category would be the best option here. Since cards are the main medium, either a reference list or an image category would be better I think, if it was something someone would want to do.
:2.5) There are a few methods for the In the TCG sections floating around, but there's not really a solid style any more, so what you think works for the content you are adding would probably be fine for now.
:3) This sounds like it might already exist? [[List of references to popular culture in Pokémon]]. Let me know if that isn't what you had in mind. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 05:06, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

::Hey again,

::sorry about the late reply! I'm kinda off and on with this interest.^^'

::Could you explain the sandbox page you linked, please? I don't quite understand it.
::1) I've made a userspace page for that: [[User:Moribundead/Items]] (this is currently mainly a sandbox page to sort my uploads and what else I find on here, but it'll also be the reference list)
::2) Also made a page for that: [[User:Moribundead/Card Locations]]
::2.5) Also changed some pages' cardlists to galleries as I said.
::3) And I made a page for that: [[User:Moribundead/Japanese Culture]]

::NEW: 4) Am I allowed to "transfer" some of the images in the Item artwork category into new categories? Like Mega Stones, Key Items, Evolution Stones, etc.

::EDIT: NEW: 5) What do I do in case of old goods/figures there are no official images of?
[[User:Moribundead|Moribundead]] ([[User talk:Moribundead|talk]]) 00:52, 16 April 2025 (UTC)

== Christian myth ==

Hello. The user going by the name Magicalgirlkat seems to be particular about changing lines including "Christian myth" to say "real Biblical story" instead. Not only does this seem unneded, they have also edit warred a bit on {{p|Hydrapple}}'s article. They haven't done it that much, but I still feel like they should be given a heads-up of sorts. Thank you. [[User:Kikugi|Kikugi]] ([[User talk:Kikugi|talk]]) 07:25, 7 February 2025 (UTC)
:It looks like some of the other staff are currently handling it. I'll jump in if it seems to get out of control. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 12:09, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

== Pictures of pokemon advanced action cards ==

Hello,

I saw your name on the project marchandise contacts and I am personally very interested in all these series of collectibles. I have all the advanced action cards in my possession and I saw that there were no photos of the cards from the series on the site.
I don't really have the time and desire to delve into editing the site by myself, but I would be happy to contribute in my own way to the knowledge on this site. I can provide images of the cards. Would you be interested in this, and if so, how can we proceed so that I can provide you with the images of the cards?

Regards [[User:KamiPein|KamiPein]] ([[User talk:KamiPein|talk]]) 20:38, 12 February 2025 (UTC)

::Hi! Sorry for the long wait on a reply. It's been busy around here.
::These are the lenticular cards, right? Those would probably be really difficult to get good images of that show the images well. We typically prefer scans (but I wouldn't know how lentical scan), but having any images would be a good first step.
::We *usually* try to have images uploaded by the person who makes them, for crediting purposes, but we could work something out via email (you can use the email function built into the wiki), discord (mavericknate#0674) or something else if you aren't interested in getting too deep into the working of the site. (I will say, image uploading is relatively simple and non-intensive; I can show you how to do it if that interests you.)
::I hope I hear back from you! ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 01:26, 26 February 2025 (UTC)

== Redirect ==

Why couldn't the episode just remain a redirect if it's already clear that there will be another episode. [[User:Modesty Elyon|Modesty Elyon]] ([[User talk:Modesty Elyon|talk]]) 01:58, 6 March 2025 (UTC)

:If it's clear there will be another episode, we should have a page on the episode. That's the practice we already do, but we also only create episode pages once the title of the episode is known. If you know the title, feel free to create the episode page. If not, it shouldn't be created in any capacity. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 02:04, 6 March 2025 (UTC)
::If the episode isn't confirmed, why is there a section for it in the episode list? It seems kind of pointless, my redirect wasn't unnecessary. [[User:Modesty Elyon|Modesty Elyon]] ([[User talk:Modesty Elyon|talk]]) 02:05, 6 March 2025 (UTC)
:::I believe those index pages are prepped as if additional episodes will exist, at least until the end of the specific series is known, in order to prevent additional work for the anime team by having to move and relink that page every week for several months.
:::But we also recognize the issues with those pages, and one of the future tasks for the anime section is to split them up onto each episode page when we have the time. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 02:11, 6 March 2025 (UTC)
::::Sorry but that's not convincing, I don't see the point in what you're doing. I created it so there would be a redirect so when a name comes up people would remember to add more information to another page about listings. The redirect isn't a separate page, and it didn't confuse anyone. Either it should exist so restore the page or there shouldn't be a section for episode 90 in the list until it's confirmed; otherwise what you're saying is completely misleading. [[User:Modesty Elyon|Modesty Elyon]] ([[User talk:Modesty Elyon|talk]]) 02:14, 6 March 2025 (UTC)
::::Well, how should I understand this? You deleted everything again without any response. Then remove the information about the non-existent episode from other pages as well. [[User:Modesty Elyon|Modesty Elyon]] ([[User talk:Modesty Elyon|talk]]) 02:40, 6 March 2025 (UTC)
:::::Our readers have likely come to expect that if a link to that page exists, that means the episode has aired and more information is now available. Changing the standard all of a sudden only serves to confuse our readers. A redirect for a page that does not exist should generally only be created if the information readers expect to find exists in detail on the target page. Since we do not have the full details yet, a redirect is inappropriate. This is no reason to remove the known content we do have, and it is unreasonable and frankly [[COC|uncivil]] to demand that it be removed and make an ultimatum in this way. [[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']] 02:56, 6 March 2025 (UTC)
::::::What exactly is uncivil? I asked why there can be a section but not a redirect to it if there is already some information about the episode. If the episode is not announced, then in your opinion, the presence of this section does not confuse anyone? [[User:Modesty Elyon|Modesty Elyon]] ([[User talk:Modesty Elyon|talk]]) 03:00, 6 March 2025 (UTC)
:::::::The [[code of conduct]] states "Do not use insults, '''demanding language''', or harassment to make a point or advance an argument." Your comments above demanding that we remove information because we did not keep the redirect like you wanted are not conducive to a healthy, collaborative discussion environment. If you think the standard should change, you can argue your points respectfully, please. [[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']] 03:12, 6 March 2025 (UTC)
::::::I saw the section and realized that the future episode was already determined and created a redirect for the fans' awareness. But now they tell me that there is no announcement, but the section should remain for… some reason?
::::::Sorry, but the presence of [[Animated series staff by episode (HZ081-HZ090)#HZ090|this section]] is precisely what misleads everyone who sees it. [[User:Modesty Elyon|Modesty Elyon]] ([[User talk:Modesty Elyon|talk]]) 03:09, 6 March 2025 (UTC)
:::::::As Nate stated before, we recognize that there are issues with the animated series staff pages and will likely split them in the future. In the meantime, they will function as they always have so that the anime team can work efficiently. [[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']] 03:16, 6 March 2025 (UTC)
::::::::So, a section without an announcement can exist because deleting it is problematic and '''convenient for a certain team''', even if it misleads all other people? [[User:Modesty Elyon|Modesty Elyon]] ([[User talk:Modesty Elyon|talk]]) 03:24, 6 March 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::Since the solution would involve realistically months of work, in this context, yes it can. Especially since the solution you are proposing misleads another separate group of people, we as staff have to determine which lesser of two evils to choose from in order to keep the least amount of people from getting confused.
:::::::::Simply, according to our statistics on page popularity, the individual episode pages are much more searched for and popular than the episode staff directory pages. While we prepare for the overhaul of episode staff directories, the least problematic solution is to keep the individual episode page uncreated until we know the title. While yes, we recognize an issue with the index pages, the solution cannot be to add a series of weekly tasks to the anime editors to solve a very minor and little known problem. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 03:38, 6 March 2025 (UTC)
::::::::::Considering that we are having such a big conversation, it does not seem that this problem is "little." From everything you have said, it is becoming clear that it was the delay in solving it that misled me and who knows how many other fans who think that the series will continue. And as I understand it, it is not a fact that this problem with the section is going to be solved at all, considering that you are talking about many months. [[User:Modesty Elyon|Modesty Elyon]] ([[User talk:Modesty Elyon|talk]]) 03:48, 6 March 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::::The point is that the staff pages are created in advance and are titled with the expectation that they will cover a certain number of episodes. Removing the section would make the title inaccurate, and it's not reasonable to expect people to have to move that page to a new title every week as new episodes air. It's better that we just split those pages into the individual episode pages as soon as we're able to (which isn't necessarily going to be "months" away). [[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']] 04:00, 6 March 2025 (UTC)
::::::::::::Well, then if this page is not private and everyone sees this info on the episode that you assumed would definitely happen, then a redirect to this section could have existed, and it was not a "speculaction" or "crack" from my side. In the end, the episode list is visible to all readers, and they wonder when the continuation will happen. And then they are told that the continuation is in question, some team just created a section because it was their "expectation." [[User:Modesty Elyon|Modesty Elyon]] ([[User talk:Modesty Elyon|talk]]) 04:19, 6 March 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::::::As I mentioned earlier, the amount of readers who click on the directory pages is extremely extremely fewer than those who would see the Episode page/redirect. Despite the attention you personally are giving this problem, I can assure you it ''is'' in fact a very minor, little problem that very few people even encounter based on the site visitor data that site staff have access to. As Editor in Chief of the largest Pokemon website on the internet, I'm not going to blow up our practices because a single reader sees a potential problem, when I've already assured that said problem is on staff's radar and will be handled as one of the next large-scale editing tasks for Project Anime. I'm glad you brought up a problem that you have with it; multiple people here have personally assured you that we see it too. But in the grand scheme of this franchise, it will have to wait until us ''volunteer'' contributors can prioritize it in a way that will see it through fully and correctly. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 04:32, 6 March 2025 (UTC)
::::::::::::::Well, we're all volunteer editors here, and as was said, either redirect and section can coexist, or neither should exist because it creates confusion. Just because one point is convenient for a small group does not mean that everyone else should feel like outsiders and think that they are doing something wrong just because there is some problem area, a trap that no one wanted to solve for a long time. There is not even any warning template in that section that this episode has not been announced yet. So anyone who sees it accepts this information as an already predetermined future. [[User:Modesty Elyon|Modesty Elyon]] ([[User talk:Modesty Elyon|talk]]) 04:52, 6 March 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::Your opinion is accepted. As this minor inconsistency you bring up will become moot and void as staff have been prepping to solve a much larger issue with these pages for some time, I won't be changing the practices anytime soon as it would be a waste of limited resources. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 05:06, 6 March 2025 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::Well, I knew more or less that no one would solve anything, it's easier for you to call someone a speculator than to admit that it was your unsolved problem that created the current situation. So I'm ending this conversation; it's obviously pointless because I and other misled people are a "waste of resources." [[User:Modesty Elyon|Modesty Elyon]] ([[User talk:Modesty Elyon|talk]]) 05:20, 6 March 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::::I recommend losing the attitude if you expect to be a successful editor here. If you are fired up enough to create a 3 hour argument over an extremely minor issue because the uneeded page you created was deleted with a default delete reason, making false accusations against others, it shows that you won't be able to collaborate well with other editors. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 05:29, 6 March 2025 (UTC)

== Verify Jirachi coin color ==

Howdy! I've been researching Pokemon coins recently and came across the [[a:File:EX05_Silver_Jirachi_Coin.jpg|silver rainbow Jirachi coin]] that you added to the Wish Maker theme deck page back in 2015.

This has been causing me quite a bit of confusion as the coin that I have from the same theme deck is definitely a soft gold like [[a:File:VS6_Gold_Jirachi_Coin.png|this one]] that is listed for the Movie Commemoration VS Pack. I haven't been able to find a silver version of this coin anywhere online (at the very least, not one that doesn't look it could be gold when held at a different angle).

I suspect that they're the same coin, or at the very least that the one from the Theme Deck is a different shade of gold than the one in the VS Pack, and not actually silver. My other running theory is that there were two slightly different colored versions of the coin included in the Wish Maker theme deck with one being soft gold and the other, seemingly rarer, one being silver.

If you still have the coin, are you able to take a new photo of it (perhaps at a few different angles) for visual comparison/confirmation?

Thanks, [[User:Rattrocker|Rattrocker]] ([[User talk:Rattrocker|talk]]) 23:36, 19 March 2025 (UTC)

:Hi! I've been meaning to get back to that message, so I'm glad you reached out to me.
:So, when my friend and I were researching coins way back when, we didn't own this coin. But, we had watched a lot of video openings of people unboxing the Wish Maker theme deck in order to try and pinpoint the exact research for it, and didn't quite feel so comfortable ascribing it as the same exact Japanese coin from the Movie Commemoration VS Packs. Those Japanese theme decks tended to be different from the coins released in the English products (despite all coins from that Generation being produced in Japan and shipped over). The image we added was a screengrab from one of those unboxing videos, and we weren't quite sure what to make of it. We figured it would be safer to consider them different and then combine them later, instead of the alternative.
:The coin images we have that are non-transparent with white backgrounds were all coins I didn't own at the time, and are partly waiting for me to find a sealed copy to verify whether or not the research we did 10 years ago was fully accurate. That being said...do you happen to specifically own the coin that comes out of {{TCG|Wish Maker}}? That would probably be a better avenue for figuring this out. I saw on that talk pages that you mentioned owning that deck multiple times before, so I'm willing to trust your first hand experience--since I don't have one myself. I do happen to own multiple copies of the Movie VS Pack coin however. I simply return to the before-mentioned problem that it would be rare that the coin between the two products would match 100%. I'd love to be able to verify 100% whether or not they are the same, but that tends to involve scanning/taking picture of both of them at the same time and seeing if there are any differences.
:Side note. Are you a coin collector? I'd love to see if we can't trade any coins to fill out the ones each of us are missing! ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 01:18, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
::Thanks for the response! You did (and still do) a ton of great work for the wiki, so I'm not complaining here about that - just trying to clarify some facts about the coins that I do own.
::I've actually got three copies of said coin - one being from my theme deck that I had as a kid (and having pretty significant signs of play), one coming from a recent purchase of a sealed copy of the theme deck (and thus very clean / near mint), and the other being one that I imported from Japan recently as well (under the assumption that it was from the VS Pack which I'm now second guessing, also very clean / near mint).
::Needless to say, I've got three samples that all look the same with two being confirmed coming from the Wish Maker theme deck and the other being identical but whose origin I am now uncertain of.
::Changing gears, I've begun to collect coins from both North America and Japan but with most of my current efforts going towards North American Gen 3 and Gen 4 coins (the eras that I grew up with). I've got a few duplicates that I'd be down to trade with you (one of them being a pretty clean copy of the Wish Maker theme deck Jirachi coin).
::I was thinking about picking up one of the VS Packs so that I can do a side-by-side comparison of the two coins but its currently outside my budget. I'm totally interested in trading one of my spare Wish Maker coins to you in exchange for your spare coin from the VS Pack (or alternatively, swap coins with you for photography/comparison purposes and then send it back once done).
::I've got some other spares too but they're in varying used condition (much of my collection is either from my childhood and is thus well-loved or are second-hand pickups from eBay or from Mercari / Yahoo Auctions via proxy seller) - I can send you a list with photos if you're interested in seeing what I've got, just let me know! [[User:Rattrocker|Rattrocker]] ([[User talk:Rattrocker|talk]]) 07:42, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
:::I have two of the Jirachi coin that I can confirm to be from the Japanese theme deck, so I can certainly give one of those up if it helps. I'd certainly love to finally be able to put one of the lingering coin mysteries to rest.
:::I took some pictures of my tradable coins and I'd be more than happy to trade whatever I can to you to help fill in your collection. I'll follow up here in an email via the wiki's email function, so be on the lookout for one! I'm willing to take closer pictures or answer any questions about what you might be looking for. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 01:14, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

== About Template:Editable Userpage ==

The template is only for use if the user allows the page to be edited by other users. Please reread the link you typed in the edit summary for the page's deletion. '''[[User:SquirtingSquirtle|SQUIRTINGSQUIRTLE''']] • [[User talk:SquirtingSquirtle|My Talk Page]] 02:59, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
:I responded on your talk page. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 03:14, 30 June 2025 (UTC)

== Gardevoir Coins ==

I've seen a silver, green, and jumbo purple gardevoir coin listed here. However, for the green coin in particular I don't see a listing, release, or set this coin should come with. Does this coin exist? I'm currently hunting all 3. [[User:Skar1899|Skar1899]] ([[User talk:Skar1899|talk]]) 05:40, 8 September 2025 (UTC)

:Hi! This coin definitely exists. Unfortunately, it's probably going to be a difficult find, and probably not on the English side of the internet. It was a Point prize for a series of tournaments happening at Pokemon Center stores in Japan for 1 month in 2016. Players could earn 1 point for participating and 1 point for winning. In order to get the Gardevoir coin (it came in a set of three with Pikachu and Charmander), you had to earn 6 points total and you could receive the coins from the tournament staff. I hope this at least provides some answers. Good luck! ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 07:02, 8 September 2025 (UTC)

== Trick or Trade 2025 ==

Hi, you've reverted my edit on [[Mega Evolution TCG Series merchandise]] about the Trick or Trade 2025 promo card, but I got the information from the official Pokemon website: https://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-news/attend-your-local-play-pokemon-store-to-celebrate-pokeween
Should I not include that on the merchandise page if it's just a promo card? 𝐍𝐚𝐌𝐫𝐨𝐳 ►[[User_talk:NaMroz|Talk]] 07:54, 8 October 2025 (UTC)

:Good question! Promo cards not included within a specific piece of merchandise would be compiled on {{TCG|Miscellaneous Promotional cards}} ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 08:53, 8 October 2025 (UTC)

== Game data sections / Pokémon page formatting and layout ==

What would be the appropriate place to propose a change to the "'''Game data'''" sections of articles on Pokémon?

These sections have become progressively less useful over time, as they are incredibly long. [[Pikachu (Pokémon)|Pikachu]] is a perfect example of this. From a personal perspective, my primary usage for these pages is checking '''Learnset''' and '''Stats''' sections. As more games are released, these sections get buried deeper and deeper in the pages, which is not useful at all.

It may be worthwhile to make separate '''Core game data''' and '''Side game data''' sections given how many games there are at this point.

Additionally, '''Pokédex entries''' could easily be its own section, following after '''Biology'''. I think this could reasonably contain core game, side game, and anime Pokédex entries, along with miscellaneous ones. Anyone looking to read Pokédex entries (which I often do) would be interested in all of these as a whole.

'''Sprites and models''' definitely needs its own section. These are inherently large and space filling, and would be best placed towards the bottom of the page.

'''Origin''', '''Name origin''', and '''In other languages''' could reasonably be combined into their own section, along with '''Concept and development'''. These are some of the things I personally find most interesting, and I definitely don't want to scroll for ages to find them. A section right at the end would be perfect.

One of the biggest problems ultimately is that the pages don't have '''Contents''' tables when viewed on mobile, whereas they do on the desktop version. Some pages, like [[Appletun (Pokémon)|Appletun]], display with the sections collapsed by default, but others like the aforementioned Pikachu display with them expanded. It's ''a lot''.

As an additional but unrelated bit of commentary, the adverts that display on Bulbapedia break the functionality of the website on mobile browsers. The implementation of adverts creates some kind of overlay which prevents clicking on wikilinks and the like, which is deeply frustrating. [[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy Appletree]] ([[User talk:Poppy Appletree|talk]]) 15:06, 13 November 2025 (UTC)

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Pokémon world in relation to the real world

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[[File:Pokemon-to-real-world.png|thumb|251px|The map of Japan (in addition to the Kuril Islands and Sakhalin) showing the four core series Japanese Pokémon regions and their sub-regions. [[Kitakami]] is not included due to the vagueness in its location compared to the other regions.]]
[[File:Pokemon-to-real-world-North America.png|thumb|251px|The map of North America showing the two core series North American Pokémon regions.]]
[[File:Pokemon-to-real-world-Europe.png|thumb|251px|The map of Europe showing the three core series European Pokémon regions and their sub-regions]]
The designs of the nine [[region]]s in the [[core series]] [[Pokémon games]]—[[Kanto]], [[Johto]], [[Hoenn]], [[Sinnoh]], [[Unova]], [[Kalos]], [[Alola]], [[Galar]], and [[Paldea]]—are inspired by real-world geography and demographics:

* The first four regions are based on parts of {{wp|Japan}}:
** Kanto is based on the {{wp|Kantō region}} of eastern {{wp|Honshu}}. Its [[Sevii Islands]] are modeled after the {{wp|Izu Islands}} and the {{wp|Bonin Islands}}, two archipelagos off the coast of Tokyo.
** Johto is based on the {{wp|Kansai region}} of southern-central Honshu, together with parts of the western {{wp|Chūbu region}} and a small portion of eastern {{wp|Shikoku}}.
** Hoenn is based on {{wp|Kyushu|Kyūshū}}, the southernmost of Japan's four major islands, together with nearby islands such as {{wp|Okinawa Island|Okinawa}}.
** Sinnoh is based on {{wp|Hokkaido}}, the northernmost of Japan's four major islands, with additional influences from the {{wp|Kuril Islands}} and {{wp|Sakhalin}}, territories disputed between Japan and {{wp|Russia}}.

* Two regions are based on parts of the {{wp|United States}}:
** Unova is based on {{wp|New York City}} and its surrounding metropolitan area, as well as parts of northeastern {{wp|New Jersey}} and western {{wp|Long Island}}.
** Alola is based on the U.S. state of {{wp|Hawaii}}.

* The remaining three regions are based on parts of {{wp|Western Europe}}:
** Kalos is based on {{wp|France}}, particularly the northern half of {{wp|Metropolitan France}}.
***Lumiose City is based on {{wp|Paris}}, with its centerpiece, the [[Prism Tower]], being based on the {{wp|Eiffel Tower}}.
** Galar is based on the {{wp|United Kingdom}}, with emphasis on the island of {{wp|Great Britain}}.
** Paldea is based on the {{wp|Iberian Peninsula}}, which includes {{wp|Spain}}, {{wp|Portugal}}, {{wp|Andorra}} and {{wp|Gibraltar}}.

In regards to the [[side series]] games, it has been confirmed that [[Orre]], the setting of [[Pokémon Colosseum]] and [[Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness]], was inspired by {{wp|Phoenix, Arizona}} in the United States. The land of [[Kitakami]], based on the {{wp|Tōhoku region}} of Japan, is part of a core series game. However, it is unclear whether it is considered its own region, part of a larger region, or neither.

==In the core series games==
===Regions===
====Kanto====
[[File:Pokémon_to_real_world_Kanto_Kanto.png|thumb|A comparison of Kanto to the Kantō region and parts of the eastern Chūbu region.]]
The {{wp|Kantō region}} of Japan (関東地方, ''Kantō-chihō'', meaning "Region East to the Barrier", referring to the east of the Hakone checkpoint) is not only identical in name to [[Kanto]] in the [[Pokémon world]], but is also very similar geographically; however, the western part of the game map corresponds to eastern {{wp|Chūbu region|Chūbu}} (中部地方, ''Chūbu-chihō'', meaning "Central region", also called 中部日本, ''Chūbu-nihon'', that means "Central Japan").

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|-
! style="background:#6AA9E4; width:15%; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Pokémon world
! style="background:#6AA9E4; width:25%" colspan="2" | Specific location
! style="background:#6AA9E4; width:20%" colspan="2" | Prefecture
! style="background:#6AA9E4; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Notes
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Pallet Town]]
| {{jwp|下田市}}
| {{wp|Shimoda, Shizuoka|Shimoda City}}
| {{jwp|静岡県}}
| {{wp|Shizuoka Prefecture|Shizuoka}}
| Pallet Town is based on [[Satoshi Tajiri]]'s hometown {{wp|Machida, Tokyo|Machida City}} during his boyhood.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Kanto Route 1|Route 1]]
| {{jwp|伊豆半島}}
| {{wp|Izu Peninsula}}
| {{jwp|静岡県}}
| {{wp|Shizuoka Prefecture|Shizuoka}}
| A peninsula that connects Shimoda City to Mishima City.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Viridian City]]
| {{jwp|三島市}} or {{jwp|箱根町}}
| {{wp|Mishima, Shizuoka|Mishima City}} or {{wp|Hakone, Kanagawa|Hakone Town}}
| {{jwp|静岡県}} or {{jwp|神奈川県}}
| {{wp|Shizuoka Prefecture|Shizuoka}} or {{wp|Kanagawa Prefecture|Kanagawa}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Viridian Forest]]
| {{jwp|奥秩父山塊}}
| {{wp|Okuchichibu Mountains}}
| {{jwp|埼玉県}}、{{jwp|山梨県}}、{{jwp|長野県}}
| {{wp|Yamanashi Prefecture|Yamanashi}}, {{wp|Saitama Prefecture|Saitama}}, and {{wp|Nagano Prefecture|Nagano}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Kanto Route 2|Route 2]]
| {{jwp|秩父市}}
| {{wp|Chichibu, Saitama|Chichibu City}}
| {{jwp|埼玉県}}
| {{wp|Saitama Prefecture|Saitama}}
| Viridian Forest being inside Route 2 is a reference to its real world counterpart's name Okuchichibu - meaning "interior of Chichibu".
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Pewter City]]
| {{jwp|前橋市}}
| {{wp|Maebashi, Gunma|Maebashi City}}
| {{jwp|群馬県}}
| {{wp|Gunma Prefecture|Gunma}}
| Maebashi rests at the foot of Mount Akagi. It is the capital city of the Gunma Prefecture. The famous {{wp|Iwajuku}} archaeological site and the Iwajuku Museum are located in the city of {{wp|Midori, Gunma|Midori}}.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Kanto Route 3|Route 3]]
| {{jwp|桐生市}} - {{jwp|足利市}}
| {{wp|Kiryū, Gunma|Kiryū City}} - {{wp|Ashikaga, Tochigi|Ashikaga City}}
| {{jwp|群馬県}}, {{jwp|栃木県}}
| {{wp|Gunma Prefecture|Gunma}}, {{wp|Tochigi Prefecture|Tochigi}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Mt. Moon]]
| {{jwp|赤城山}}
| {{wp|Mount Akagi}}
| {{jwp|群馬県}}
| {{wp|Gunma Prefecture|Gunma}}
| Mt. Akagi features a crater lake near the summit
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Kanto Route 4|Route 4]]
| {{jwp|佐野市}} - {{jwp|栃木市}}
| {{wp|Sano, Tochigi|Sano City}} - {{wp|Tochigi (city)|Tochigi City}}
| {{jwp|栃木県}}
| {{wp|Tochigi Prefecture|Tochigi}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Cerulean City]]
| {{jwp|宇都宮市}}
| {{wp|Utsunomiya|Utsunomiya City}}
| {{jwp|栃木県}}
| {{wp|Tochigi Prefecture|Tochigi}}
| Utsunomiya City is the capital city of the Tochigi Prefecture.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Cerulean Cave]]
| {{jwp|大谷資料館}}
| Ōya History Museum - Subterranean Cave
| {{jwp|栃木県}}
| {{wp|Tochigi Prefecture|Tochigi}}
| Ōya History Museum used to be a quarry with a network of monumental underground chambers, and is located in Utsunomiya City. Could also be based on {{wp|Ashio Copper Mine}}.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Kanto Route 24|Routes 24]] & [[Kanto Route 25|25]]
| {{jwp|日光国立公園}}, {{jwp|那須塩原市}}
| {{wp|Nikkō National Park}} and {{wp|Nasushiobara|Nasushiobara City}}
| {{jwp|栃木県}}
| {{wp|Tochigi Prefecture|Tochigi}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Sea Cottage]]
| {{jwp|北茨城市}}
| {{wp|Kitaibaraki, Ibaraki|Kitaibaraki City}}
| {{jwp|茨城県}}
| {{wp|Ibaraki Prefecture|Ibaraki}}
| It's known for Rokkakudō, a wooden retreat overlooking the sea along the Izura coast.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Kanto Route 9|Route 9]]
| {{jwp|水戸線}}
| {{wp|Mito Line}}
| {{jwp|栃木県}}, {{jwp|茨城県}}
| {{wp|Tochigi Prefecture|Tochigi}}, {{wp|Ibaraki Prefecture|Ibaraki}}
| Specifically, from Sakuragawa City to Ishioka City.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Rock Tunnel]]
| {{jwp|筑波山}}
| {{wp|Mount Tsukuba}}
| {{jwp|茨城県}}
| {{wp|Ibaraki Prefecture|Ibaraki}}
| A non-volcanic mountain renowned for its beautiful granite.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Kanto Route 6|Route 6]]
| {{jwp|京葉線}}
| {{wp|Keiyō Line}}
| {{jwp|千葉県}}
| {{wp|Chiba Prefecture|Chiba}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Vermilion City]]
| {{jwp|横浜市}}, {{jwp|横須賀市}}, {{jwp|千葉市}}
| A hybrid of {{wp|Yokohama, Kanagawa|Yokohama City}}, {{wp|Yokosuka|Yokosuka City}} and {{wp|Chiba (city)|Chiba City}}
| {{jwp|神奈川県}}, {{jwp|千葉県}}
| {{wp|Kanagawa Prefecture|Kanagawa}}, {{wp|Chiba Prefecture|Chiba}}
| Geographically, it is based on Chiba City (capital city of the Chiba Prefecture). However, Yokohama (capital city of the Kanagawa Prefecture) is the largest and most luxurious seaport of the three. Yokosuka has a United States Navy base, a possible inspiration for Vermilion Gym and Lt. Surge as an "American" soldier. 
During the announcement for the 2023 [[Pokémon World Championships]], [[The Pokémon Company]] used a trailer with footage of Vermilion City taken from the [[Generation I]] games before announcing that the event would be held in Yokohama.<ref>
Play Pokémon (@playpokemon) on [https://twitter.com/playpokemon/status/1561383485323055109 Twitter]: Now announcing the destination for #PokemonWorlds 2023…</ref>
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Diglett's Cave]]
| {{jwp|加曽利貝塚}}
| {{wp|Kasori Shell Mound}}
| {{jwp|千葉県}}
| {{wp|Chiba Prefecture|Chiba}}
| The largest known shell mound found in Japan which can be viewed in a tunnel.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Kanto Route 11|Routes 11]], [[Kanto Route 13|13]], [[Kanto Route 14|14]] & [[Kanto Route 15|15]]
| {{jwp|外房線}}
| {{wp|Sotobō Line}}
| {{jwp|千葉県}}
| {{wp|Chiba Prefecture|Chiba}}
| Route 11 is based on Midori-ku ward, Route 13 on Katsuura City, Route 14 on Kamogawa City (due to wind turbines), and Route 15 on Minamibōsō City.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Kanto Power Plant]]
| {{jwp|東海発電所}}
| {{wp|Tōkai Nuclear Power Plant}}
| {{jwp|茨城県}}
| {{wp|Ibaraki Prefecture|Ibaraki}}
| The first commercial nuclear power plant in Japan.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Lavender Town]]
| {{jwp|牛久市}}
| {{wp|Ushiku, Ibaraki|Ushiku City}}
| {{jwp|茨城県}}
| {{wp|Ibaraki Prefecture|Ibaraki}}
| Geographically, it is closer to {{wp|Kashima, Ibaraki|Kashima City}}. However, Ushiku City contains Ushiku Jyoen - a large scale graveyard that allows people to bury passed away pets. It also contains a small animal park, where people can feed various animals.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Pokémon Tower]]
| {{jwp|牛久大仏}}
| {{wp|Ushiku Daibutsu}}
| {{jwp|茨城県}}
| {{wp|Ibaraki Prefecture|Ibaraki}}
| The fifth tallest statue in the world, which is located near Ushiku Jyoen (a large scale graveyard). Could also be based on Kashima Shrine.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Kanto Route 8|Route 8]]
| {{jwp|京成東成田線}}
| {{wp|Keisei Higashi-Narita Line}}
| {{jwp|千葉県}}
| {{wp|Chiba Prefecture|Chiba}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Kanto Route 12|Route 12]]
| {{jwp|九十九里浜}}, {{jwp|銚子市}}
| {{wp|Kujūkuri Beach}}, {{wp|Chōshi}}
| {{jwp|千葉県}}
| {{wp|Chiba Prefecture|Chiba}}
| Chōshi City has one of the largest fish catches in Japan.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Underground Path]]
| {{jwp|東京メトロ東西線}}
| {{wp|Tokyo Metro Tozai Line}}
| {{jwp|東京都}}, {{jwp|千葉県}}
| {{wp|Tokyo}}, {{wp|Chiba Prefecture|Chiba}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Kanto Route 7|Route 7]]
| {{jwp|新宿御苑}} or {{jwp|代々木公園}}
| {{wp|Shinjuku Gyo-en}} or {{wp|Yoyogi Park}}
| {{jwp|東京都}}
| {{wp|Tokyo}}
| Shinjuku Gyo-en is the largest garden park in Shinjuku. Part of it and Yoyogi Park are in Shibuya, a ward located between Setagaya and Shinjuku wards.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Celadon City]]
| {{jwp|東京都}} ({{jwp|多摩ニュータウン}} and {{jwp|世田谷区}})
| {{wp|Tokyo}} ({{wp|Tama New Town}} and {{wp|Setagaya}} special wards)
| {{jwp|東京都}}
| {{wp|Tokyo}}
|Tama New Town is a large residential development and largest housing development in Japan. The Celadon Department Store and Celadon Game Corner may be a reference to Tama Center's Parthenon Avenue, which contains many retail and leisure complexes, such as Sanrio Puroland. Similarly, Setagaya has the largest population of Tokyo's special wards, which may be the inspiration for the [[Celadon Condominiums]].
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Kanto Route 5|Route 5]]
| {{jwp|さいたま市}}
| {{wp|Saitama (city)|Saitama City}}
| {{jwp|埼玉県}}
| {{wp|Saitama Prefecture|Saitama}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Saffron City]]
| {{jwp|東京都}} ({{jwp|新宿区}} and {{jwp|千代田区}})
| {{wp|Tokyo}} ({{wp|Shinjuku}} and {{wp|Chiyoda, Tokyo|Chiyoda}} special ward)
| {{jwp|東京都}}
| {{wp|Tokyo}}
| Shinjuku is a major commercial center of Japan known for its business and nightlife. Chiyoda is a major economical powerhouse of Japan, housing the headquarters of 19 Fortune 500 companies that contribute roughly 10% of the combined revenue of all Japanese companies. The [[Silph Co.]] headquarters being located in Saffron City may reflect this. Chiyoda is also the political center of Japan: the Imperial Palace, Prime Minister's Official Residence, the National Diet and the Supreme Court are located here.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Magnet Train|Magnet Train station]]
| {{jwp|新宿駅}} or {{jwp|新大阪駅}}
| {{wp|Tokyo Station}} and {{wp|Shin-Ōsaka Station}}
| {{jwp|東京都}}
| {{wp|Tokyo}}
| The {{wp|Tōkaidō Shinkansen}} bullet train line runs between Tokyo Station in Chiyoda special ward, Tokyo and Shin-Ōsaka Station in Yodogawa ward, Osaka.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Fuchsia City]]
| {{jwp|館山市}}, {{jwp|富津市}}, or {{jwp|南房総市}}
| {{wp|Futtsu|Futtsu City}}, {{wp|Tateyama, Chiba|Tateyama City}}, or {{wp|Minamibōsō|Minamibōsō City}}
| {{jwp|千葉県}}
| {{wp|Chiba Prefecture|Chiba}}
| All three cities are located close to the Minami Bōsō Quasi-National Park. Tateyama City contains many historic buildings. The Minami Bōsō Ninja Village “Ninja no Sato” is located in Minamibōsō City, relating to [[Koga]]’s status as a ninja.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Kanto Safari Zone]]
| {{jwp|富士箱根伊豆国立公園}} ({{jwp|マザー牧場}})
| {{wp|Minami Bōsō Quasi-National Park}} (specifically Mother Farm)
| {{jwp|千葉県}}
| {{wp|Chiba Prefecture|Chiba}}
| Mother Farm is an animal theme park located in the {{wp|Futtsu}} part of Quasi-National Park. Established in 1962, it's famous for its sheep shows and guests can interreact with various domesticated animals.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Kanto Route 16|Route 16]]
| {{jwp|鎌倉市}} - {{jwp|平塚市}}
| {{wp|Kamakura|Kamakura City}} - {{wp|Hiratsuka|Hiratsuka City}}
| {{jwp|神奈川県}}
| {{wp|Kanagawa Prefecture|Kanagawa}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Kanto Route 17|Cycling Road]]
| {{jwp|東京湾アクアライン}}
| {{wp|Tokyo Bay Aqua-Line}}
| {{jwp|神奈川県}}、{{jwp|千葉県}}
| {{wp|Kanagawa Prefecture|Kanagawa}} and {{wp|Chiba Prefecture|Chiba}}
| It connects {{wp|Kawasaki, Kanagawa|Kawasaki City}} and {{wp|Kisarazu, Chiba|Kisarazu City}} over Tokyo Bay. It was under construction when {{game|Red and Green|s}} were released.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Seafoam Islands]]
| {{jwp|江の島}}
| {{wp|Enoshima}}
| {{jwp|神奈川県}}
| {{wp|Kanagawa Prefecture|Kanagawa}}
| A small offshore island. Home to the Iwaya Caves.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Kanto Route 19|Water Routes 19]], [[Kanto Route 20|20]], & [[Kanto Route 21|21]]
| {{jwp|相模湾}}
| {{wp|Sagami Bay}}
| {{jwp|神奈川県}}
| {{wp|Kanagawa Prefecture|Kanagawa}}
| Many small islands are scattered around this bay.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Cinnabar Island]]
| {{jwp|伊豆大島}}
| {{wp|Izu Oshima|Izu-Ōshima}}
| {{jwp|東京都}}
| {{wp|Tokyo}}
| Oshima is famous for {{wp|Mount Mihara}}, an active volcano.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Kanto Route 22|Route 22]]
| {{jwp|富士箱根伊豆国立公園}}
| {{wp|Fuji-Hakone-Izu National Park}}
| {{jwp|神奈川県}}, {{jwp|静岡県}}, {{jwp|山梨県}} and {{jwp|東京都}}
| {{wp|Kanagawa Prefecture|Kanagawa}}, {{wp|Shizuoka Prefecture|Shizuoka}}, {{wp|Yamanashi Prefecture|Yamanashi}} and {{wp|Tokyo}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Indigo Plateau]]
| {{jwp|埼玉県}}, {{jwp|安中市}} or {{jwp|秩父多摩甲斐国立公園}}
| {{wp|Saitama Prefecture|Northwestern Saitama}}, {{wp|Annaka, Gunma|Annaka City}} or {{wp|Chichibu Tama Kai National Park}}
| {{jwp|群馬県}}, {{jwp|長野県}}, {{jwp|山梨県}} and {{jwp|東京都}}
| {{wp|Saitama Prefecture|Saitama}}, {{wp|Gunma Prefecture|Gunma}}, {{wp|Nagano Prefecture|Nagano}}, {{wp|Yamanashi Prefecture|Yamanashi}} and {{wp|Tokyo}}
| Due to the confusing nature of Kanto's map between Gen 1/3 and Gen 2/4, it's hard to pinpoint the exact location. It's also possible the national park is the basis for [[Kanto Route 23|Route 23]] and [[Victory Road (Kanto)|Victory Road]].
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Kanto Route 28|Route 28]]
| {{jwp|山梨県}}
| {{wp|Yamanashi Prefecture}}
| {{jwp|山梨県}}
| {{wp|Yamanashi Prefecture|Yamanashi}}
| Mt. Fuji is located here. Could possibly also based on Fujinomiya City.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Kanto Route 26|Route 26]]
| {{jwp|富士市}} - {{jwp|静岡市}}
| {{wp|Fuji, Shizuoka|Fuji City}} - {{wp|Shizuoka (city)|Shizuoka City}}
| {{jwp|静岡県}}
| {{wp|Shizuoka Prefecture|Shizuoka}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Kanto Route 27|Route 27]]
| {{jwp|駿河湾}}
| {{wp|Suruga Bay}}
| {{jwp|静岡県}}
| {{wp|Shizuoka Prefecture|Shizuoka}}
| Both {{wp|Shiraito Falls}} and {{wp|Otodome Falls}}, the real world [[Tohjo Falls]], are located close to the bay. Two waterfalls separated by a mere 600 feet, located southwest of {{wp|Mount Fuji}}.
|}

=====Sevii Islands=====
The [[Sevii Islands]] are based on two archipelagos off the coast of Tokyo: the {{wp|Izu Islands}} ({{jwp|伊豆諸島}}, ''Izu-shoto'', meaning "Izu Archipelago") and the {{wp|Bonin Islands}} ({{jwp|小笠原諸島}}, ''Ogasawara-shoto'', meaning "Ogasawara Archipelago"), both archipelagos are administered by the Tokyo Metropolis (under Japanese law, the prefecture of Tokyo is designated as a to (都), translated as metropolis)

{| style="background:#2E83D2; margin-left:10px; margin-bottom:10px; {{roundy}}; border:3px solid #81807A"
|-
! style="background:#6AA9E4; width:15%; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Pokémon world
! style="background:#6AA9E4; width:25%" colspan="2" | Specific location
! style="background:#6AA9E4; width:20%" colspan="2" | Subprefecture
! style="background:#6AA9E4; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Notes
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[One Island]]
| {{jwp|新島}}、{{jwp|神津島}}、{{jwp|式根島}}、{{jwp|利島}}
| {{wp|Niijima}}, {{wp|Kozushima|Kōzushima}}, {{wp|Shikinejima}} and {{wp|To-shima, Tokyo|To-shima}}
| {{jwp|大島支庁}}
| {{wp|Oshima Subprefecture (Tokyo)|Oshima}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Kindle Road]]
| {{jwp|新島}}
| {{wp|Niijima}}
| colspan="2" |
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Treasure Beach]]
| {{jwp|神津島}}
| {{wp|Kozushima}}
| colspan="2" |
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Mt. Ember]]
| {{jwp|利島}}宮塚山
| Mt. Miyatsuka, {{wp|Toshima Island}}
| colspan="2" |
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Two Island]]
| {{jwp|三宅島}}、{{jwp|御蔵島}}
| {{wp|Miyakejima}} and {{wp|Mikurajima}}
| {{jwp|三宅支庁}}
| {{wp|Miyake Subprefecture|Miyake}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Three Island]]
| {{jwp|八丈島}}、{{jwp|八丈小島}}
| {{wp|Hachijōjima}} and {{wp|Hachijōkojima}}
| {{jwp|八丈支庁}}
| {{wp|Hachijō Subprefecture|Hachijō}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Berry Forest]]
| {{jwp|八丈小島}}
| {{wp|Hachijōkojima}}
| colspan="2" |
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Three Isle Port]]
| 底土港
| Sokodo Port
| colspan="2" |
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Four Island]]
| {{jwp|青ヶ島}}
| {{wp|Aogashima}}
| {{jwp|八丈支庁}}
| {{wp|Hachijō Subprefecture|Hachijō}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Icefall Cave]]
| 丸山, {{jwp|青ヶ島}}
| Maruyama, {{wp|Aogashima}}
| {{jwp|八丈支庁}}
| {{wp|Hachijō Subprefecture|Hachijō}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Five Island]]
| {{jwp|聟島列島}}
| Mukojima Islands
| {{jwp|小笠原支庁}}
| {{wp|Ogasawara Subprefecture|Ogasawara}}
| All are uninhabited.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Water Labyrinth]]
| {{jwp|西之島}}
| {{wp|Nishinoshima (Ogasawara)|Nishinoshima}}
| colspan="2" |
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Resort Gorgeous]]
| 中ノ島
| Nakanoshima
| colspan="2" |
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Lost Cave]]
| 笹魚島
| Sasayojima
| colspan="2" |
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Memorial Pillar]]
| {{jwp|媒島}}
| Nakoudojima
| colspan="2" |
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Six Island]]
| {{jwp|父島列島}}
| Chichijima Islands
| {{jwp|小笠原支庁}}
| {{wp|Ogasawara Subprefecture|Ogasawara}}
| The small islands to the north of Chichijima include Anijima ({{jwp|兄島}}) and Otōtojima ({{jwp|弟島}}), among others.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Dotted Hole]]
| {{jwp|父島}}
| {{wp|Chichijima}}
| colspan="2" |
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Green Path]]
| {{jwp|兄島}}
| Anijima
| colspan="2" |
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Outcast Island]]
| {{jwp|弟島}}
| Otōtojima
| colspan="2" |
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Seven Island]]
| {{jwp|母島}}
| {{wp|Hahajima}}
| {{jwp|小笠原支庁}}
| {{wp|Ogasawara Subprefecture|Ogasawara}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Tanoby Ruins]]
| {{jwp|母島列島}}
| Hahajima Islands
| {{jwp|小笠原支庁}}
| {{wp|Ogasawara Subprefecture|Ogasawara}}
| The small islands to the south of Hahajima include Anejima ({{jwp|姉島}}) and Imōtojima ({{jwp|妹島}}), among others.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Navel Rock]]
| {{jwp|鳥島}}
| {{wp|Torishima (Izu Islands)|Torishima}}
| {{jwp|八丈支庁}}
| {{wp|Hachijō Subprefecture|Hachijō}}
| Known as the habitat of albatross.
|-
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybl|5px}}" | [[Birth Island]]
| style="background:#fff" | {{jwp|南鳥島}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{wp|Minami Torishima}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{jwp|小笠原支庁}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{wp|Ogasawara Subprefecture|Ogasawara}}
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" | The easternmost island belonging to Japan. It's also triangular in shape.
|}

====Johto====
[[File:Pokémon to real world Johto Kansai and Shikoku.png|thumb|A comparison of Johto to the Kansai region, part of western Shikoku and Awaji Island.]]
In Japan, the Kantō region is often contrasted with the {{wp|Kansai region}} (関西地方, ''Kansai-chihō'', meaning "Region West to the Tollgate", referring to the regions west to the Osaka Tollgate), also known as {{wp|Kinki region}} (近畿地方, ''Kinki-chihō'', meaning "Region Near the Capital", referring to the cities of Nara and Kyoto, Japan former capital cities), which like [[Johto]] is to the west. However, Johto is geographically more similar to the Kansai region and the western {{wp|Chūbu region}} combined, as well as a small part of eastern {{wp|Shikoku region}} (四国地方 ''Shikoku-chihō'', meaning "Region of the Four Provinces", referring to the four historical provinces that made up the island).

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|-
! style="background:#6AA9E4; width:15%; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Pokémon world
! style="background:#6AA9E4; width:25%" colspan="2" | Specific location
! style="background:#6AA9E4; width:20%" colspan="2" | Prefecture
! style="background:#6AA9E4; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Notes
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Mt. Silver]]
| {{jwp|富士山}}
| {{wp|Mount Fuji}}
| {{jwp|静岡県}} and {{jwp|山梨県}}
| {{wp|Shizuoka Prefecture|Shizuoka}} and {{wp|Yamanashi Prefecture|Yamanashi}}
| The encounter with [[Red (game)|Red]] at Mt. Silver may be a reference to {{wp|Kuninotokotachi}}. Waiting atop Mt. Silver as the series’ highest-level {{pkmn|Trainer}} opponent, Red was the player character with humble beginnings from the first Pokémon games; Kuninotokotachi is said to be the first Japanese deity, born of something resembling a reed following the creation of heaven and earth, who resides atop Mt. Fuji.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[New Bark Town]]
| {{jwp|浜松市}}
| {{wp|Hamamatsu, Shizuoka|Hamamatsu City}}
| {{jwp|静岡県}}
| {{wp|Shizuoka Prefecture|Shizuoka}}
| Could also be based on {{wp|Shizuoka, Shizuoka|Shizuoka City}} (capital city of the Shizuoka Prefecture), due to wind turbines added to New Bark Town in HGSS. At the same time construction was completed on a small wind-farm in Shizuoka City.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Johto Route 29|Route 29]]
| {{jwp|岡崎平野}}
| Okazaki Plain
| {{jwp|愛知県}}
| {{wp|Aichi Prefecture|Aichi}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Cherrygrove City]]
| {{jwp|半田市}} and {{jwp|南知多町}}
| {{wp|Handa, Aichi|Handa City}} and {{wp|Minamichita|Minamichita Town}}
| {{jwp|愛知県}}
| {{wp|Aichi Prefecture|Aichi}}
| Both residences are located in Chita Peninsula, which is famous for flower cultivation. Could possibly be based on {{wp|Nagoya|Nagoya City}}, the capital city of the Aichi Prefecture.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Johto Route 31|Route 31]]
| {{jwp|濃尾平野}}
| {{wp|Nōbi Plain}}
| {{jwp|愛知県}}
| {{wp|Aichi Prefecture|Aichi}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Violet City]]
| {{jwp|奈良市}}
| {{wp|Nara, Nara|Nara City}}
| {{jwp|奈良県}}
| {{wp|Nara Prefecture|Nara}}
| Home to many historic buildings and monuments, Nara is where Japan was founded as a state. It was the capital of Japan from 710 CE to 794 CE as the seat of the Emperor before the capital was moved to Kyoto. Currently is the capital city of the Nara Prefecture.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Sprout Tower]]
| {{jwp|興福寺}} or {{jwp|法隆寺}}
| {{wp|Kōfuku-ji}} or {{wp|Hōryū-ji}}
| {{jwp|奈良県}}
| {{wp|Nara Prefecture|Nara}}
| A five-story pagoda, Kōfuku-ji is the second-largest pagoda in Japan, located on northeast of Nara City. Hōryū-ji is the oldest wooden building in the world.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Ruins of Alph]]
| {{jwp|明日香村}}
| {{wp|Asuka, Nara|Asuka Village}}
| {{jwp|奈良県}}
| {{wp|Nara Prefecture|Nara}}
| There are many archaeological sites in Nara such as {{wp|Ishibutai Kofun}} ({{jwp|石舞台古墳}}) and {{wp|Takamatsuzuka Tomb}} ({{jwp|高松塚古墳}}).
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Johto Route 32|Route 32]]
| {{jwp|松阪市}}, {{jwp|伊勢志摩}}
| {{wp|Matsusaka|Matsusaka City}} and {{wp|Ise-Shima}}
| {{jwp|三重県}}
| {{wp|Mie Prefecture|Mie}}
| Ise-Shima is famous for fresh seafood and pearl cultivation.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Union Cave]]
| 青の洞窟（がまの口）
| Blue Grotto (Gama-no-kuchi)
| {{jwp|三重県}}
| {{wp|Mie Prefecture|Mie}}
| The Blue Grotto of Kumano is a small sea cave in Tategasaki, the largest columnar rock formation in Nigishima Bay.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Johto Route 33|Route 33]]
| {{jwp|熊野市}}
| {{wp|Kumano, Mie|Kumano City}}
| {{jwp|三重県}}
| {{wp|Mie Prefecture|Mie}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Azalea Town]]
| {{jwp|みなべ町}}
| {{wp|Minabe, Wakayama|Minabe Village}}
| {{jwp|和歌山県}}
| {{wp|Wakayama Prefecture|Wakayama}}
| Minabe is famous for its high-quality Japanese apricots, known as {{wp|umeboshi}}, and high-quality charcoal, known as {{wp|Binchōtan}}.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Slowpoke Well]]
| {{jwp|熊野本宮大社}}
| {{wp|Kumano Hongū Taisha}}
| {{jwp|和歌山県}}
| {{wp|Wakayama Prefecture|Wakayama}}
| A Shinto Shrine that was originally located on a sandbank by Kumano River. It was relocated to the mountain after being partially destroyed in a flood. The sandbank now contains the largest torii shrine gate in the world.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Ilex Forest]]
| {{jwp|熊野古道}}
| {{wp|Kumano Kodō}}
| {{jwp|和歌山県}}
| {{wp|Wakayama Prefecture|Wakayama}}
| The Kumano Kodō is a series of ancient pilgrimage routes spread across the old-growth forest that connects various sacred shrines that have been sites for centuries of ascetic worship of natural phenomenon and natural wonders.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Johto Route 34|Route 34]]
| {{jwp|有田市}} - {{jwp|和歌山市}}
| {{wp|Arida, Wakayama|Arida City}} - {{wp|Wakayama (city)|Wakayama City}}
| {{jwp|和歌山県}}
| {{wp|Wakayama Prefecture|Wakayama}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Goldenrod City]]
| {{jwp|大阪市}}
| {{wp|Osaka|Ōsaka City}}
| {{jwp|大阪府}}
| {{wp|Osaka Prefecture|Ōsaka}}
| Ōsaka is the largest and most populous city in the Kansai region, serving as a major hub and financial center in the country. It is also the capital city of the Urban Prefecture of Osaka. Osaka Prefecture is one of Japan's two "urban prefectures" using the designation fu (府) rather than the standard ken for prefectures, along with Kyoto Prefecture.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Goldenrod Radio Tower]]
| {{jwp|通天閣}}
| {{wp|Tsūtenkaku}}
| {{jwp|大阪府}}
| {{wp|Osaka Prefecture|Ōsaka}}
| Tsūtenkaku is one of the most popular landmarks in Osaka.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Goldenrod Tunnel]]
| {{jwp|梅田}}, {{jwp|心斎橋}}, and {{jwp|難波}} {{jwp|地下街}}
| {{wp|Umeda}}, {{wp|Shinsaibashi}}, and {{wp|Namba}} Underground Shopping Malls
| {{jwp|大阪府}}
| {{wp|Osaka Prefecture|Ōsaka}}
| Osaka’s districts of Umeda, Shinsaibashi, and Namba are famous for their large network of underground shopping malls and tunnels known as ''chikagai''. Examples include DIAMOR Osaka Umeda (42,977 m²), CRYSTA NAGAHORI Minamisenba Shinsaibashi (81,765 m²), and Namba Walk (37,881 m²), respectively, which have approximately 100 retail stores each.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Johto Route 35|Route 35]]
| {{jwp|服部緑地}}
| {{wp|Hattori Ryokuchi Park}}
| {{jwp|大阪府}}
| {{wp|Osaka Prefecture|Ōsaka}}
|A green space in Northern Osaka. Located close to the Expo Commemoration Park.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[National Park]]
| {{jwp|明治の森箕面国定公園}} or {{jwp|万博記念公園}}
| {{wp|Meiji no Mori Minoo Quasi-National Park}} or {{wp|Expo Commemoration Park}}
| {{jwp|大阪府}}
| {{wp|Osaka Prefecture|Ōsaka}}
| In the Expo Park, there is a famous monument called the {{wp|Tower of the Sun}}.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Pokéathlon Dome]]
| {{jwp|京セラドーム大阪}}
| {{wp|Kyocera Dome Osaka}}
| {{jwp|大阪府}}
| {{wp|Osaka Prefecture|Ōsaka}}
| A baseball stadium located in Osaka.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Johto Route 36|Route 36]]
| {{jwp|木津川市}} or {{jwp|京田辺市}}
| {{wp|Kizugawa, Kyoto|Kizugawa City}} or {{wp|Kyōtanabe, Kyoto|Kyōtanabe City}}
| {{jwp|京都府}}
| {{wp|Kyoto Prefecture|Kyōto}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Johto Route 37|Route 37]]
| {{jwp|枚方市}} or {{jwp|伏見区}}
| {{wp|Hirakata|Hirakata City}} - {{wp|Fushimi-ku, Kyoto|Fushimi-ku}}
| {{jwp|大阪府}} - {{jwp|京都府}}
| {{wp|Osaka Prefecture|Ōsaka}} - {{wp|Kyoto Prefecture|Kyōto}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Ecruteak City]]
| {{jwp|京都市}}
| {{wp|Kyoto|Kyōto City}}
| {{jwp|京都府}}
| {{wp|Kyoto Prefecture|Kyōto}}
| Having served as the seat of the imperial court for eleven centuries, Kyōto is considered to be the cultural capital of Japan. It is the capital city of the prefecture of the same name. The towers that inspired the [[Burned Tower]] and the [[Bell Tower]] are both located in Kyōto. Kyoto Prefecture is one of Japan's two "urban prefectures" using the designation fu (府) rather than the standard ken for prefectures, along with Osaka Prefecture.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Burned Tower]]
| {{jwp|西寺}}
| {{wp|Sai-ji}}
| {{jwp|京都府}}
| {{wp|Kyoto Prefecture|Kyōto}}
| The temple was burnt down in 1233 and to this day hasn't been rebuilt.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Bell Tower]]
| {{jwp|金閣}} and {{jwp|東寺}}
| {{wp|Kinkaku-ji}} and {{wp|Tō-ji}}
| {{jwp|京都府}}
| {{wp|Kyoto Prefecture|Kyōto}}
| Kinkaku-ji was set on fire by a monk in 1950 ({{jwp|金閣寺放火事件}}). The wall is covered with gold leaf. Atop the Kinkaku temple sits a golden statue of a rooster or phoenix ({{p|Ho-Oh}}). Tō-ji was build alongside Sai-ji and, unlike the later temple, it still stands to this day.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Olivine City]]
| {{jwp|神戸市}}
| {{wp|Kobe, Hyogo|Kōbe City}}
| {{jwp|兵庫県}}
| {{wp|Hyogo Prefecture|Hyōgo}}
| Kōbe is the major port city in the Kansai region. The city is also well known for ''wagyū'', or {{wp|Kobe beef}}. Is the capital city of the Hyogo Prefecture.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Johto Route 38|Route 38]] & [[Johto Route 39|39]]
| {{jwp|六甲山}}
| {{wp|Mount Rokkō}}
| {{jwp|兵庫県}}
| {{wp|Hyogo Prefecture|Hyōgo}}
|Home to Rokkosan Pasture - a public pasture farm.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Olivine Lighthouse]]
| {{jwp|神戸ポートタワー}} & {{jwp|和田岬}}
| {{wp|Kobe Port Tower}} & Cape Wada
| {{jwp|兵庫県}}
| {{wp|Hyogo Prefecture|Hyōgo}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Johto Route 40|Water Route 40]]
| {{jwp|明石海峡}}
| {{wp|Akashi Strait}}
| {{jwp|兵庫県}}
| {{wp|Hyogo Prefecture|Hyōgo}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Whirl Islands]]
| {{jwp|淡路島}}
| {{wp|Awaji Island|Awajishima}}
| {{jwp|兵庫県}}
| {{wp|Hyogo Prefecture|Hyōgo}}
| The {{wp|Naruto Strait}} between Awajishima and Shikoku is famous for the {{wp|Naruto whirlpools}}. Soul Silver describes {{p|Lugia}} splitting one island into the Whirl Islands to end a war; Awajishima was the epicenter of the {{wp|Great Hanshin earthquake}}, with a portion of the island's damaged fault zone preserved to this day.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Johto Route 41|Water Route 41]]
| {{jwp|鳴門海峡}}
| {{wp|Naruto Strait}}
| {{jwp|徳島県}}
| {{wp|Tokushima Prefecture|Tokushima}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Cianwood City]]
| {{jwp|鳴門市}} or {{jwp|鳴門市}}
| {{wp|Naruto, Tokushima|Naruto City}} or {{wp|Tokushima (city)|Tokushima City}}
| {{jwp|徳島県}}
| {{wp|Tokushima Prefecture|Tokushima}}
| Naruto is where {{wp|Otsuka Pharmaceutical Co.}} began. Tokushima is the capital city of the prefecture of same name.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Johto Route 42|Route 42]]
| {{jwp|大津市}} - {{jwp|草津市}}
| {{wp|Ōtsu|Ōtsu City}} - {{wp|Kusatsu, Shiga|Kusata City}}
| {{jwp|滋賀県}}
| {{wp|Shiga Prefecture|Shiga}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Mt. Mortar]]
| {{jwp|比叡山}}
| {{wp|Mount Hiei}}
| {{jwp|滋賀県}}
| {{wp|Shiga Prefecture|Shiga}}
| “Marathon Monks” would undergo exhaustive exercises on Mount Hiei. [[Kiyo]] trains in isolation deep within Mt. Mortar.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Johto Route 44|Route 44]]
| {{jwp|彦根市}} - {{jwp|東近江市}} & {{jwp|鈴鹿山脈}}
| {{wp|Hikone, Shiga|Hikone City}} - {{wp|Higashiōmi|Higashiōmi City}} & {{wp|Suzuka Mountains}}
| {{jwp|滋賀県}}
| {{wp|Shiga Prefecture|Shiga}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Mahogany Town]]
| {{jwp|甲賀市}}
| {{wp|Kōka, Shiga|Kōka City}}
| {{jwp|滋賀県}}
| {{wp|Shiga Prefecture|Shiga}}
| Kōka is where the famous Kōga ninja were born and educated ({{wp|Kōga-ryū}}, {{jwp|甲賀流}}).
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Johto Route 43|Route 43]]
| {{jwp|近江八幡市}}
| {{wp|Ōmihachiman|Ōmihachiman City}}
| {{jwp|滋賀県}}
| {{wp|Shiga Prefecture|Shiga}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Lake of Rage]]
| {{jwp|琵琶湖}}
| {{wp|Lake Biwa}}
| {{jwp|滋賀県}}
| {{wp|Shiga Prefecture|Shiga}}
| Lake Biwa is the largest lake in Japan.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Ice Path]]
| {{jwp|伊吹山}} and {{jwp|両白山地}}
| {{wp|Ibuki Mountains}} and {{wp|Ryōhaku Mountains}}
| {{jwp|岐阜県}} and {{jwp|滋賀県}}
| {{wp|Gifu Prefecture|Gifu}} and {{wp|Shiga Prefecture|Shiga}}
| {{wp|Mount Ibuki}} is an easy-to-climb mountain that is famous for receiving the world's heaviest recorded snowfall. The interiors could be based on {{wp|Narusawa Ice Cave|Narusawa Ice Cave}}, but geographically it's too far away from both mountains.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Blackthorn City]]
| {{jwp|白川郷}}, {{jwp|高山市}}
| Shirakawa-go (near {{wp|Takayama, Gifu|Takayama City}})
| {{jwp|岐阜県}}
| {{wp|Gifu Prefecture|Gifu}}
| Shiragawa-go is a world heritage site in Shiragawa Village , which is located near Shō River. Geographically it is placed closer to {{wp|Gifu|Gifu City}}, near Nagara River.
|-style="background:#fff"
| [[Dragon's Den]]
| {{jwp|伊吹山}}
| {{wp|Mount Ibuki}}
| {{jwp|岐阜県}}
| {{wp|Gifu Prefecture|Gifu}}
| Geographically, it seems to be two different mountains merged together - Ibuki and {{wp|Mount Kinka (Gifu)|Kinka}}. Mount Kinka is a symbol of Gifu City, known for {{wp|Gifu Castle}}. Could also be based on Shōhō-ji and its {{wp|Gifu Great Buddha}} Statue, located near said mountain.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Johto Route 45|Route 45]]
| {{jwp|天竜川}}, near {{jwp|水窪ダム (静岡県)|水窪ダム}}
| {{wp|Tenryū River}}, near {{wp|Misakubo Dam}}
| {{jwp|長野県}} and {{jwp|静岡県}}
| {{wp|Nagano Prefecture|Nagano}} and {{wp|Shizuoka Prefecture|Shizuoka}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Dark Cave]]
| {{jwp|美濃三河高原}}
| Mino Mikawa Plateau
| {{jwp|長野県}}, {{jwp|岐阜県}} and {{jwp|愛知県}}
| {{wp|Nagano Prefecture|Nagano}}, {{wp|Gifu Prefecture|Gifu}} and {{wp|Aichi Prefecture|Aichi}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Cliff Edge Gate]]
| {{jwp|那賀町}}
| {{wp|Naka, Tokushima|Naka Town}}
| {{jwp|徳島県}}
| {{wp|Tokushima Prefecture|Tokushima}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Johto Route 47|Routes 47]] & [[Johto Route 48|48]]
| {{jwp|三好市}}
| {{wp|Miyoshi, Tokushima|Miyoshi City}}
| {{jwp|徳島県}}
| {{wp|Tokushima Prefecture|Tokushima}}
| Specifically based on Oboke Gorge and Yoshino River.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Embedded Tower]]
| {{jwp|剣山}}
| {{wp|Mount Tsurugi (Tokushima)|Mount Tsurugi}}
| {{jwp|徳島県}}
| {{wp|Tokushima Prefecture|Tokushima}}
| An important site of Shugendō worship, a sect of mixture of Shintoism and Buddhism. On the top of the mountain, there is a small shrine called ‘Tsurugi Jinja’. There is also a theory that Yamatai, an ancient country that is argued to have settled in Kyūshū, was also located there.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Johto Safari Zone]]
| {{jwp|丸亀市}}
| {{wp|Marugame, Kagawa|Marugame City}}
| {{jwp|香川県}}
| {{wp|Kagawa Prefecture|Kagawa}}
| NEW REOMA WORLD amusement park is based here, which contains an animal park.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Frontier Access]]
| {{jwp|姫路市}}
| {{wp|Himeji|Himeji City}}
| {{jwp|兵庫県}}
| {{wp|Hyōgo Prefecture|Hyōgo}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Battle Frontier (Generation IV)|Battle Frontier]]
| {{jwp|姫路セントラルパーク}}
| {{wp|Himeji Central Park}}
| {{jwp|兵庫県}}
| {{wp|Hyōgo Prefecture|Hyōgo}}
| Himeji Castle is located exactly on the Battle Castle position.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Sinjoh Ruins]]
| {{jwp|立山}}
| {{wp|Mount Tate}}
| {{jwp|富山県}}
| {{wp|Toyama Prefecture|Toyama}}
| One of the Three Holy Mountains of Japan. Due to the heavy snowfalls, this mountain is famous for Yuki-no-Otani (Snow Walls), which can reach up to 20m. Inferred from the location of the callout display on the map. (Assuming that [[Ice Path]] is the {{wp|Hida Mountains}} and [[Blackthorn City]] is {{wp|Takayama City}}, Gifu Prefecture).
|- style="background:#fff"
|}

====Hoenn====
[[File:Pokémon to real world Hoenn Kyushu.png|thumb|A comparison of Hoenn to the Kyūshū region (Okinawa not pictured).]]
[[Hoenn]] is based on the southernmost parts of Japan—{{wp|Kyushu|Kyūshū region}} (九州地方, ''Kyūshū-chihō'', meaning "Region of the Nine Provinces", referring to the nine historical provinces that made up the island, currently the region is divided in seven prefectures) and surrounding islands (including the {{wp|Okinawa Island|Okinawa island}}), with its main island flipped counter-clockwise ninety degrees with the smaller islands pushed close together and circulating around its southern side.

{| style="background:#2E83D2; margin-left:10px; margin-bottom:10px; {{roundy}}; border:3px solid #81807A"
|-
! style="background:#6AA9E4; width:15%; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Pokémon world
! style="background:#6AA9E4; width:25%" colspan="2" | Specific location
! style="background:#6AA9E4; width:20%" colspan="2" | Prefecture
! style="background:#6AA9E4; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Notes
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Littleroot Town]]
| {{jwp|伊万里市}} or {{jwp|佐世保市}}
| {{wp|Imari, Saga|Imari City}} or {{wp|Sasebo, Nagasaki|Sasebo City}}
| {{jwp|佐賀県}} or {{jwp|長崎県}}
| {{wp|Nagasaki Prefecture|Nagasaki}} or {{wp|Saga Prefecture|Saga}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Hoenn Route 101|Route 101]]
| {{jwp|佐世保線}}
| {{wp|Sasebo Line}}
| {{jwp|佐賀県}} or {{jwp|長崎県}}
| {{wp|Nagasaki Prefecture|Nagasaki}} or {{wp|Saga Prefecture|Saga}}
|A railway line that connects Sasebo City to Saga City.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Oldale Town]]
| {{jwp|佐賀市}}
| {{wp|Saga, Saga|Saga City}}
| {{jwp|佐賀県}}
| {{wp|Saga Prefecture|Saga}}
|Capital city of the prefecture of same name.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Hoenn Route 102|Route 102]]
| {{jwp|唐津線}}
| {{wp|Karatsu Line}}
| {{jwp|佐賀県}}
| {{wp|Saga Prefecture|Saga}}
|A railway line that connects Saga City to Karatsu City.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Hoenn Route 103|Route 103]]
| {{jwp|雲仙市}}, near {{jwp|有明海}}
| {{wp|Unzen, Nagasaki|Unzen City}}, near {{wp|Ariake Sea}}
| {{jwp|佐賀県}}
| {{wp|Nagasaki Prefecture|Nagasaki}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Trackless Forest]]
| {{jwp|吉野ヶ里遺跡}}
| {{wp|Yoshinogari site}}
| {{jwp|佐賀県}}
| {{wp|Saga Prefecture|Saga}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Petalburg City]]
| {{jwp|唐津市}}
| {{wp|Karatsu, Saga|Karatsu City}}
| {{jwp|佐賀県}}
| {{wp|Saga Prefecture|Saga}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Hoenn Route 104|Route 104]]
| {{jwp|東松浦半島}}
| Higashimatsūra Peninsula
| {{jwp|佐賀県}}
| {{wp|Saga Prefecture|Saga}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Petalburg Woods]]
| 古窯の森公園
| Koyohinomori Park
| {{jwp|佐賀県}}
| {{wp|Saga Prefecture|Saga}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Rustboro City]]
| {{jwp|福岡市}} and {{jwp|北九州市}}
| {{wp|Fukuoka|Fukuoka City}} and {{wp|Kitakyushu, Fukuoka|Kitakyushu City}}
| {{jwp|福岡県}}
| {{wp|Fukuoka Prefecture|Fukuoka}}
| Fukuoka is the sixth largest city in Japan and is famous for Kyushu University, a former Imperial University. Is also the capital city of the prefecture of same name. Kitakyushu's main industry is steelmaking. It is also home to {{wp|Zenrin}}, a company specializing in [[PokéNav|navigation software]].
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Hoenn Route 116|Route 116]]
| {{jwp|太宰府市}} - {{jwp|久留米市}}
| {{wp|Dazaifu, Fukuoka|Dazaifu City}} - {{wp|Kurume|Kurume City}}
| {{jwp|福岡県}}
| {{wp|Fukuoka Prefecture|Fukuoka}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Rusturf Tunnel]]
| {{jwp|耳納山地}} - {{jwp|筑肥山地}}
| Minō Mountains - Chikuhi Mountains
| {{jwp|福岡県}} - {{jwp|熊本県}}
| {{wp|Fukuoka Prefecture|Fukuoka}} - {{wp|Kumamoto Prefecture|Kumamoto}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Hoenn Route 105|Water Routes 105]] & [[Hoenn Route 106|106]]
| {{jwp|伊万里湾}} - {{jwp|五島列島}}
| Imari Bay - {{wp|Gotō Islands}}
| {{jwp|長崎県}}
| {{wp|Nagasaki Prefecture|Nagasaki}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Hoenn Route 107|Water Routes 107]], [[Hoenn Route 108|108]] & [[Hoenn Route 109|109]]
| {{jwp|五島灘}}
| Gotō-nada Sea
| {{jwp|長崎県}}
| {{wp|Nagasaki Prefecture|Nagasaki}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Dewford Town]]
| {{jwp|対馬島}}
| {{wp|Tsushima Island}}
| {{jwp|長崎県}}
| {{wp|Nagasaki Prefecture|Nagasaki}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Island Cave]]
| {{jwp|壱岐古墳群}}
| Iki Kofungun
| {{jwp|長崎県}}
| {{wp|Nagasaki Prefecture|Nagasaki}}
|A group of tumuli and historical site of Iki Island.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Abandoned Ship]] / [[Sea Mauville]]
| {{jwp|端島 (長崎県)}}
| {{wp|Hashima Island}}
| {{jwp|長崎県}}
| {{wp|Nagasaki Prefecture|Nagasaki}}
| Hashima Island is known for being walled and for being used for the extraction of coal for cars.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Slateport City]]
| {{jwp|長崎市|長崎市}}
| {{wp|Nagasaki, Nagasaki|Nagasaki City}}
| {{jwp|長崎県}}
| {{wp|Nagasaki Prefecture|Nagasaki}}
| The main industry is shipbuilding. Is the capital city of the prefecture of same name.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Hoenn Route 110|Route 110]]
| {{jwp|熊本フェリー}} route & {{jwp|島原鉄道線}}
| Kumamoto Ferry route & {{wp|Shimabara Railway Line}}
| {{jwp|長崎県}}
| {{wp|Nagasaki Prefecture|Nagasaki}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Mauville City]]
| {{jwp|熊本市}}
| {{wp|Kumamoto, Kumamoto|Kumamoto City}}
| {{jwp|熊本県}}
| {{wp|Kumamoto Prefecture|Kumamoto}}
|The city is undergoing a large-scale redevelopment. Is the capital city of the prefecture of same name.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[New Mauville]]
| {{jwp|熊本港}}
| Port of Kumamoto
| {{jwp|熊本県}}
| {{wp|Kumamoto Prefecture|Kumamoto}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Fabled Cave]]
| {{jwp|天草諸島}}
| {{wp|Amakusa|Amakusa Islands}}
| {{jwp|熊本県}}
| {{wp|Kumamoto Prefecture|Kumamoto}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Hoenn Route 117|Route 117]]
| {{jwp|合志市}}
| {{wp|Kōshi, Kumamoto|Kōshi City}}
| {{jwp|熊本県}}
| {{wp|Kumamoto Prefecture|Kumamoto}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Verdanturf Town]]
| {{jwp|菊池市}}
| {{wp|Kikuchi, Kumamoto|Kikuchi City}}
| {{jwp|熊本県}}
| {{wp|Kumamoto Prefecture|Kumamoto}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Hoenn Route 111|Route 111 & Desert]]
| {{jwp|豊後大野市}} - {{jwp|南阿蘇村}} + 南阿蘇村外牧
| {{wp|Bungo-Ōno|Bungo-Ōno City}} - {{wp|Minamiaso, Kumamoto|Minamiaso Village}} + Hokamaki
| {{jwp|大分県}} - {{jwp|熊本県}}
| {{wp|Ōita Prefecture|Ōita}} - {{wp|Kumamoto Prefecture|Kumamoto}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Desert Ruins]]
| {{jwp|長目塚古墳}}
| Nagamezuka Tomb
| {{jwp|熊本県}}
| {{wp|Kumamoto Prefecture|Kumamoto}}
| One of the Nakadori burial mounds, an important historical site to Kumamoto Prefecture.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Mirage Tower]]
| 阿蘇大御神御足跡石
| Aso Omikami Footprint Stone
| {{jwp|熊本県}}
| {{wp|Kumamoto Prefecture|Kumamoto}}
| A large holy stone that is believed to be prayed by Takeiwatatsu-no-Mikoto, the guardian deity of the Aso Shrine.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Gnarled Den]]
| {{jwp|九重山}}
| {{wp|Mount Kujū}}
| {{jwp|大分県}}
| {{wp|Ōita Prefecture|Ōita}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Hoenn Route 112|Route 112]]
| 南阿蘇村河陽
| Kawayo, {{wp|Minamiaso, Kumamoto|Minamiaso Village}}
| {{jwp|熊本県}}
| {{wp|Kumamoto Prefecture|Kumamoto}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Jagged Pass]] & [[Fiery Path]]
| {{jwp|熊本県道111号阿蘇吉田線}}
| Kumamoto Prefectural Road 111 Aso Yoshida Line
| {{jwp|熊本県}}
| {{wp|Kumamoto Prefecture|Kumamoto}}
|A mountaineering road that leads to Aso City and Minamiaso Village.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Mt. Chimney]]
| {{jwp|阿蘇山}}
| {{wp|Mount Aso}}
| {{jwp|熊本県}}
| {{wp|Kumamoto Prefecture|Kumamoto}}
| Mt. Aso is the largest active volcano in Japan.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Lavaridge Town]]
| {{jwp|阿蘇町}} and {{jwp|竹田市}}
| {{wp|Aso, Kumamoto|Aso Town}} and {{wp|Taketa, Ōita|Taketa City}}
| {{jwp|熊本県}} and {{jwp|大分県}}
| {{wp|Kumamoto Prefecture|Kumamoto}} and {{wp|Oita Prefecture|Ōita}}
| Aso and Taketa are home to Aso and Nagayu {{wp|onsen}}, or hot springs.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Meteor Falls]]
| {{jwp|羽門の滝}} or {{jwp|竜門の滝 (大分県)}}
| Udo Falls or Ryumon Falls
| {{jwp|大分県}}
| {{wp|Oita Prefecture|Ōita}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Hoenn Route 114|Route 114]]
| {{jwp|別府市}}
| {{wp|Beppu|Beppu City}}
| {{jwp|大分県}}
| {{wp|Oita Prefecture|Ōita}}
|The rocky area near [[Meteor Falls]] is probably based on {{wp|Mount Yufu}}, while the waterside near [[Fallarbor Town]] is based on {{wp|Beppu Onsen}}.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Fallarbor Town]]
| {{jwp|大分市}}
| {{wp|Oita, Oita|Ōita City}}
| {{jwp|大分県}}
| {{wp|Oita Prefecture|Ōita}}
| Capital city of the prefecture of same name.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Hoenn Route 119|Route 119]]
| {{jwp|高千穂峡}}
| Takachiho Gorge
| {{jwp|宮崎県}}
| {{wp|Miyazaki Prefecture|Miyazaki}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Fortree City]]
| {{jwp|日向市}}
| {{wp|Hyūga, Miyazaki|Hyūga City}}
| {{jwp|宮崎県}}
| {{wp|Miyazaki Prefecture|Miyazaki}}
| Hyūga is famous for Nippō Kaigan Quasi-National Park, which contains Cape Hyūga and Myokokuji Garden. Could also be based on {{wp|Kobayashi, Miyazaki|Kobayashi City}}, which literally means ''Small forest'', and its appearance can be based on Sukimuland, an area with various bridges that overlook lush green landscapes and waterfalls. Kobayashi is famous for mountains, flower fields and parks.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Hoenn Safari Zone]]
| {{jwp|宮崎市フェニックス自然動物園}}
| Miyazaki City Phoenix Zoo
| {{jwp|宮崎県}}
| {{wp|Miyazaki Prefecture|Miyazaki}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Scorched Slab]]
| {{jwp|天岩戸神社}}
| {{wp|Amanoiwato Shrine}}
| {{jwp|宮崎県}}
| {{wp|Miyazaki Prefecture|Miyazaki}}
| In {{wp|Japanese mythology}}, Amano-Iwato is where {{wp|Amaterasu}} hid from her brother {{wp|Susanoo}}, who had gone on a rampage.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Ancient Tomb]]
| {{jwp|高屋山上陵}}
| Takaya Yamagami Mausoleum
| {{jwp|鹿児島県}}
| {{wp|Kagoshima Prefecture|Kagoshima}}
|The tomb of the mythical Hoori-no-Mikoto, one of the ancestors of the Emperors of Japan.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Hoenn Route 120|Route 120]]
| {{jwp|霧島}}
| {{wp|Kirishima}}
| {{jwp|鹿児島県}}
| {{wp|Kagoshima Prefecture|Kagoshima}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Hoenn Route 121|Route 121]]
| {{jwp|霧島市}} - {{jwp|垂水市}}
| {{wp|Kirishima, Kagoshima|Kirishima City}} - {{wp|Tarumizu, Kagoshima|Tarumizu City}}
| {{jwp|鹿児島県}}
| {{wp|Kagoshima Prefecture|Kagoshima}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Hoenn Route 122|Water Route 122]]
| {{jwp|鹿児島湾}}
| {{wp|Kagoshima Bay}}
| {{jwp|鹿児島県}}
| {{wp|Kagoshima Prefecture|Kagoshima}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Mt. Pyre]]
| {{jwp|桜島}}
| {{wp|Sakurajima}}
| {{jwp|鹿児島県}}
| {{wp|Kagoshima Prefecture|Kagoshima}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Lilycove City]]
| {{jwp|鹿屋市}}
| {{wp|Kanoya, Kagoshima|Kanoya City}}
| {{jwp|鹿児島県}}
| {{wp|Kagoshima Prefecture|Kagoshima}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Hoenn Route 118|Route 118]]
| {{jwp|宇土市}} - {{jwp|八代市}}
| {{wp|Uto, Kumamoto|Uto City}} - {{wp|Yatsushiro|Yatsushiro City}}
| {{jwp|熊本県}}
| {{wp|Kumamoto Prefecture|Kumamoto}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Hoenn Route 123|Route 123]]
| {{jwp|出水市}} - {{jwp|南さつま市}}
| {{wp|Izumi, Kagoshima|Izumi City}} - {{wp|Minamisatsuma|Minamisatsuma City}}
| {{jwp|鹿児島県}}
| {{wp|Kagoshima Prefecture|Kagoshima}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Shoal Cave]]
| {{jwp|馬毛島}}
| {{wp|Mageshima}}
| {{jwp|鹿児島県}}
| {{wp|Kagoshima Prefecture|Kagoshima}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Hoenn Route 124|Water Routes 124]] & [[Hoenn Route 125|125]] + [[Nameless Cavern]]
| {{jwp|吐噶喇列島}} - {{jwp|奄美大島}}
| {{wp|Tokara Islands}} - {{wp|Amami Ōshima}}
| {{jwp|鹿児島県}}
| {{wp|Kagoshima Prefecture|Kagoshima}}
|While geographically don't match, these islands are very similar to the reefs and smaller islands scattered around Mossdeep City. Kikaijima is possibly an inspiration for the villain team's hideout.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Mossdeep City]]
| {{jwp|種子島}}
| {{wp|Tanegashima|Tanegashima}}
| {{jwp|鹿児島県}}
| {{wp|Kagoshima Prefecture|Kagoshima}}
|Only covers Nakatane and Minamitane towns, as the Nishinoomote City part is missing in Mossdeep City geography.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Mossdeep Space Center]]
| {{jwp|種子島宇宙センター}}
| {{wp|Tanegashima Space Center}}
| {{jwp|鹿児島県}}
| {{wp|Kagoshima Prefecture|Kagoshima}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Sootopolis City]]
| {{jwp|屋久島}}
| {{wp|Yakushima}}
| {{jwp|鹿児島県}}
| {{wp|Kagoshima Prefecture|Kagoshima}}
| Its caldera appearance was possibly inspired by Kikai Cladera, a massive yet submerged caldera north of Yakushima, while the architecture of Sootopolis City is based on {{wp|Santorini}}, {{wp|Greece}}. In ORAS, a large tree was added, similar to Jōmon Sugi found on Yakushima.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Sky Pillar]]
| {{jwp|口永良部島}}
| {{wp|Kuchinoerabu-jima}}
| {{jwp|鹿児島県}}
| {{wp|Kagoshima Prefecture|Kagoshima}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Hoenn Route 127|Water Routes 127]] & [[Hoenn Route 128|128]] + [[Seafloor Cavern]]
| {{jwp|伊平屋島}}, {{jwp|具志川島}}, {{jwp|伊江島}}, {{jwp|伊是名島}} & {{jwp|慶良間諸島}}
| {{wp|Iheya Island}}, Gushikawa Island, {{wp|Iejima}}, {{wp|Izena Island}} & {{wp|Kerama Islands}}
| {{jwp|沖縄県}}
| {{wp|Okinawa Prefecture|Okinawa}}
|While geographically don't match, these islands found on these routes are similar in shape to their real world counterparts.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Victory Road (Hoenn)|Victory Road]]
| {{jwp|山原}}
| {{wp|Yambaru}}
| {{jwp|沖縄県}}
| {{wp|Okinawa Prefecture|Okinawa}}
|The most natural region of Okinawa Island, with lot's of flowering plants growing in its hinterland, such as tiger's claw and red spider lily.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Ever Grande City]]
| {{jwp|那覇市}}
| {{wp|Naha|Naha City}}
| {{jwp|沖縄県}}
| {{wp|Okinawa Prefecture|Okinawa}}
| Could possibly be based on Amami Oshima due to being more geographically closer to Kyushu, or Nago City in Okinawa due to the waterfalls.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Pokémon League (Hoenn)|Hoenn Pokémon League]]
| {{jwp|首里城}}
| {{wp|Shuri Castle}}
| {{jwp|沖縄県}}
| {{wp|Okinawa Prefecture|Okinawa}}
| The appearance of the Pokémon League building in {{pkmn|Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire}} resembles {{wp|Shuri Castle}}, the former official residence of the kings of the {{wp|Ryukyu Kingdom}}, that was anexed by Japan in 1879. The {{wp|Ryukyuan people}} inhabits the Kagoshima and Okinawa Prefectures.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Hoenn Route 129|Water Route 129]] & [[Crescent Isle]]
| {{jwp|渡名喜島}} & {{jwp|粟国島}}
| Tonaki Island & {{wp|Aguni Island}}
| {{jwp|沖縄県}}
| {{wp|Okinawa Prefecture|Okinawa}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Mirage Island (Generation III)|Mirage Island]]
| {{jwp|八重干瀬}}
| {{wp|Yabiji}}
| {{jwp|沖縄県}}
| {{wp|Okinawa Prefecture|Okinawa}}
| Yabiji appears above the sea on March 3 by the lunisolar calendar.<ref>[http://www.oceansatlas.org/subtopic/en/c/121/ UN Atlas of the Oceans]</ref>
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Pacifidlog Town]]
| {{jwp|奄美群島}}
| {{wp|Amami Islands}}
| {{jwp|鹿児島県}}
| {{wp|Kagoshima Prefecture|Kagoshima}}
| It is designed to be located between Amami Ōshima and Kikaijima. Could also be inspired by Ishigaki Island, located in the Yaeyama Islands, which contains rare blue corals.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Hoenn Route 131|Water Routes 131]] & [[Hoenn Route 132|132]]
| {{jwp|宇治群島}} & {{jwp|草垣群島}}
| Uji Islands & {{wp|Kusagaki islets}}
| {{jwp|鹿児島県}}
| {{wp|Kagoshima Prefecture|Kagoshima}}
|The reefs on these routes imitate the real life islands.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Hoenn Route 133|Water Routes 133]] & [[Hoenn Route 134|134]]
| {{jwp|東シナ海}} ({{jwp|久米島}}, {{jwp|大東諸島}} & {{jwp|先島諸島}})
| {{wp|East China Sea}} ({{wp|Kume Island}}, {{wp|Daitō Islands}} & {{wp|Sakishima Islands}})
| {{jwp|沖縄県}}
| {{wp|Okinawa Prefecture|Okinawa}}
|The reefs on these routes imitate the real life Okinawan islands.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Pathless Plain]]
| {{jwp|下甑島}}
| {{wp|Shimokoshiki-jima}}
| {{jwp|鹿児島県}}
| {{wp|Kagoshima Prefecture|Kagoshima}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Battle Tower (Generation III)|Battle Tower]] & [[Battle Frontier (Generation III)|Battle Frontier]]
| {{jwp|徳之島}}
| {{wp|Tokunoshima}}
| {{jwp|鹿児島県}}
| {{wp|Kagoshima Prefecture|Kagoshima}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Sealed Chamber]]
| {{jwp|与那国島}}
| {{wp|Yonaguni}}
| {{jwp|沖縄県}}
| {{wp|Okinawa Prefecture|Okinawa}}
| Underneath the water's surface, natural rock formations were thought to be artificially created.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Southern Island]]
| {{jwp|男女群島}}, {{jwp|五島市}}
| {{wp|Danjo Islands}}, {{wp|Gotō, Nagasaki|Gotō City}}
| {{jwp|長崎県}}
| {{wp|Nagasaki Prefecture|Nagasaki}}
| Uninhabited islands located 70 km south-southwest of the {{wp|Gotō Islands}}. It is administratively part of {{wp|Gotō, Nagasaki|Gotō City}}.
|- style="background:#fff"
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybl|5px}}" | [[Faraway Island]]
|
|
|
|
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" | Faraway Island may be based on the lush tropical rain forests of {{wp|The Guianas}}, which is where {{p|Mew}} was discovered according to the [[Pokémon Mansion journals]].
|-
|}

====Sinnoh====
[[File:Pokémon to real world Sinnoh Hokkaido, Sakhalin and the Kurils islands.png|thumb|A comparison of Sinnoh (and by extension Hisui) to Hokkaidō, the Kuril islands and the south part of Sakhalin Oblast.]]
[[Sinnoh]] has been said to be an island like Hoenn, rather than a peninsula. It is based on the northernmost major island of Japan, {{wp|Hokkaido}} (北海道, ''Hokkaidō'', literally "Northern Sea Circuit"), as well as parts of the {{wp|Kuril Islands}} (Japanese: 千島列島 ''Chishima Rettō'', meaning "Archipelago of Thousand Islands"; Russian: Кури́льские острова́, ''Kurilskiye ostrova'', Kuril Islands). {{wp|Kunashir Island}} (Japanese: 国後島 Kunashiri Tō; Russian: Кунаши́р, "Kunashír"), which is in {{wp|Kuril Islands dispute|dispute}} between Russia and Japan, is also included. The [[Battle Zone]] is based on {{wp|Sakhalin}} (Japanese: 樺太 ''Karafuto''; Russian: Сахали́н, "Sakhalín"), a Russian island whose southern part was controlled by Japan between 1905 and 1945.

[[Hisui]] is the historical name of Sinnoh known during its discovery and settlement. The name change could be a reference to the fact that {{wp|Ezo|Ezochi}} (蝦夷地, ''Ezochi'', meaning "Land of the Ezo" or "Ezo-land", Ezo was the historical exonym that the Japanese used to the {{wp|Ainu}} people, the original inhabitants of Hokkaido) was renamed Hokkaido and established as a {{wp|Prefectures of Japan|prefecture}} after the {{wp|Meiji Restoration}}. Therefore, the Hisui region is likely based on Hokkaido in the late {{wp|Edo period|Edo}} and early {{wp|Meiji era|Meiji}} when large-scale development and modernization took place. The design of Hisui is heavily inspired by the physical geography of Hokkaido.

=====Sinnoh=====
{| style="background:#2E83D2; margin-left:10px; margin-bottom:10px; {{roundy}}; border:3px solid #81807A"
|-
! style="background:#6AA9E4; width:15%; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Pokémon world
! style="background:#6AA9E4; width:25%" colspan="2" | Specific location
! style="background:#6AA9E4; width:20%" colspan="2" | Subprefecture / Raion
! style="background:#6AA9E4; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Notes
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Twinleaf Town]]
| From {{jwp|室蘭市}} to / or {{jwp|登別市}} to / or {{jwp|白老町}}
| {{wp|Muroran|Muroran City}} to / or {{wp|Noboribetsu, Hokkaidō|Noboribetsu City}} to / or {{wp|Shiraoi, Hokkaido|Shiraoi Town}}
| {{jwp|胆振総合振興局}}
| {{wp|Iburi Subprefecture|Iburi}}
| The model appears to be based on Muroran City, but based geographically speaking around Noboribetsu City to the western part of Shiraoi Town.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Sinnoh Route 201|Route 201]]
| {{jwp|室蘭本線}}
| {{wp|Muroran Main Line}}
| {{jwp|胆振総合振興局}}
| {{wp|Iburi Subprefecture|Iburi}}
| Around the Shiraoi Town section of the Muroran Main Line to be more specific.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Verity Lakefront]]
| {{jwp|壮瞥町}}
| {{wp|Sōbetsu, Hokkaido|Sōbetsu}}
| {{jwp|胆振総合振興局}}
| {{wp|Iburi Subprefecture|Iburi}}
| In Pokémon Platinum, snow sometimes falls here, as many trees are partly covered in a thin layer of ice, while the ground can sometimes be seen with patches of snow. Sōbetsu is home of the Showa Shinzan Yukigassen Tournament, a major Japanese snowball fight tournament.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Lake Verity]]
| {{jwp|洞爺湖}}
| {{wp|Lake Toya|Lake Tōya}}
| {{jwp|胆振総合振興局}}
| {{wp|Iburi Subprefecture|Iburi}}
| Lake Tōya is a {{wp|volcanic crater lake|caldera lake}} with an {{wp|lake island|island}} located in {{wp|Shikotsu-Tōya National Park}}. [[Volo]]'s lines in {{g|Legends: Arceus}} also suggest that Lake Verity was formed by volcano eruption.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Sandgem Town]]
| {{jwp|苫小牧市}}
| {{wp|Tomakomai, Hokkaido|Tomakomai City}}
| {{jwp|胆振総合振興局}}
| {{wp|Iburi Subprefecture|Iburi}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Sinnoh Route 219|Route 219]]
| {{jwp|苫小牧西港フェリーターミナル}}
| Tomakomainishiko Ferry Terminal
| {{jwp|胆振総合振興局}}
| {{wp|Iburi Subprefecture|Iburi}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Sinnoh Route 220|Water Route 220]]
| 苫小牧沖
| Off Tomakomai
| {{jwp|胆振総合振興局}}
| {{wp|Iburi Subprefecture|Iburi}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Sinnoh Route 221|Route 221]]
| {{jwp|日高町 (北海道)|日高町}}
| {{wp|Hidaka, Hokkaido|Hidaka Town}}
| {{jwp|日高振興局}}
| {{wp|Hidaka Subprefecture|Hidaka}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Pal Park]]
| {{jwp|新ひだか町}}
| {{wp|Shinhidaka, Hokkaido|Shinhidaka Town}}
| {{jwp|日高振興局}}
| {{wp|Hidaka Subprefecture|Hidaka}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Sinnoh Route 202|Route 202]]
| {{jwp|千歳市}}
| {{wp|Chitose, Hokkaido|Chitose City}}
| {{jwp|石狩振興局}}
| {{wp|Ishikari Subprefecture|Ishikari}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Jubilife City]]
| {{jwp|札幌市}}
| {{wp|Sapporo, Hokkaido|Sapporo City}}
| {{jwp|石狩振興局}}
| {{wp|Ishikari Subprefecture|Ishikari}}
| Sapporo is the capital and largest city of Hokkaido. The [[Jubilife TV]] building is a reference to the headquarters of {{wp|Sapporo Television Broadcasting|Sapporo TV}}, the clock of the Pokétch Company can be partially based in the {{wp|Sapporo Clock Tower}}, the oldest clock tower in Japan and built in American style.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Oreburgh City]]
| {{jwp|夕張市}}
| {{wp|Yubari, Hokkaido|Yūbari City}}
| {{jwp|空知総合振興局}}
| {{wp|Sorachi Subprefecture|Sorachi}}
|Used to be famous for coal mines and has a coal mining museum. In recent years, the city suffers from financial problems, due to the closure of the mines in 1980s.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Oreburgh Mine]]
| {{jwp|夕張炭鉱}}
| Yūbari Coal Mine
| {{jwp|空知総合振興局}}
| {{wp|Sorachi Subprefecture|Sorachi}}
|In real life, the mine is not in working condition due to multiple gas explosion accidents in the past.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Oreburgh Mining Museum]]
| {{jwp|夕張市石炭博物館}}
| {{wp|Yūbari Coal Mine Museum}}
| {{jwp|空知総合振興局}}
| {{wp|Sorachi Subprefecture|Sorachi}}
|The museum documents the importance of coal mining to the local economy from the Meiji period to the Shōwa period.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Sinnoh Route 207|Route 207]]
| {{jwp|夕張岳}}
| {{wp|Mount Yūbari}}
| {{jwp|空知総合振興局}}
| {{wp|Sorachi Subprefecture|Sorachi}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Sinnoh Route 204|Route 204]]
| {{jwp|札沼線}}
| {{wp|Sasshō Line}}
| {{jwp|石狩振興局}}
| {{wp|Ishikari Subprefecture|Ishikari}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Floaroma Town]]
| {{jwp|富良野市}}, {{jwp|当別町}}, {{jwp|当別町}}
| {{wp|Furano, Hokkaido|Furano City}}, {{wp|Tōbetsu, Hokkaido|Tōbetsu Town}} or {{wp|Hokuryū, Hokkaido|Hokuryū Town}}
| {{jwp|上川総合振興局}}, {{jwp|石狩振興局}}, {{jwp|空知総合振興局}}
| {{wp|Kamikawa Subprefecture|Kamikawa}}, {{wp|Ishikari Subprefecture|Ishikari}} or {{wp|Sorachi Subprefecture|Sorachi}}
| All of these towns are famous for flower production. However, Furano City is too close to the in-game's Cycling Road geographically.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Valley Windworks]]
| {{jwp|苫前町}}
| {{wp|Tomamae, Hokkaidō|Tomamae Town}}
| {{jwp|留萌振興局}}
| {{wp|Rumoi Subprefecture|Rumoi}}
| Tomamae is famous for its windmills in the countryside.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Sinnoh Route 205|Route 205]]
| {{jwp|北海道道4号旭川芦別線}}
| Hokkaido Road No. 4 Asahikawa Ashibetsu Line
| {{jwp|上川総合振興局}}, {{jwp|空知総合振興局}}
| {{wp|Kamikawa Subprefecture|Kamikawa}}, {{wp|Sorachi Subprefecture|Sorachi}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Eterna Forest]]
| {{jwp|神居村}}
| Kamui Village
| {{jwp|上川総合振興局}}
| {{wp|Kamikawa Subprefecture|Kamikawa}}
|A forested village located west of Asahikawa City.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Old Chateau]]
| {{jwp|神居古潭}}
| Kamui Kotan
| {{jwp|上川総合振興局}}
| {{wp|Kamikawa Subprefecture|Kamikawa}}
|An area in the forest, west of Asahikawa City. There is a folklore that an evil kamui was killed there.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Eterna City]]
| {{jwp|旭川市}}
| {{wp|Asahikawa, Hokkaido|Asahikawa City}}
| {{jwp|上川総合振興局}}
| {{wp|Kamikawa Subprefecture|Kamikawa}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Sinnoh Route 206|Cycling Road]]
| {{jwp|富良野線}}
| {{wp|Furano Line}}
| {{jwp|上川総合振興局}}
| {{wp|Kamikawa Subprefecture|Kamikawa}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Sinnoh Route 211|Route 211]]
| {{jwp|石北本線}}
| {{wp|Sekihoku Main Line}}
| {{jwp|上川総合振興局}}
| {{wp|Kamikawa Subprefecture|Kamikawa}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Mount Coronet]]
| 蝦夷山系, {{jwp|日高山脈}} or {{jwp|大雪山}}
| Ezo Mountain Chain, {{wp|Hidaka Mountains}} or {{wp|Daisetsuzan Volcanic Group}}
| {{jwp|上川総合振興局}}, {{jwp|日高振興局}}, {{jwp|十勝総合振興局}}
| {{wp|Kamikawa Subprefecture|Kamikawa}}, {{wp|Hidaka Subprefecture|Hidaka}}, {{wp|Tokachi Subprefecture|Tokachi}}
| The Ezo Mountain Chain consists of the {{wp|Teshio Mountains}} ({{jwp|天塩山地}}), the {{wp|Kitami Mountains}} ({{jwp|北見山地}}), the {{wp|Ishikari Mountains}} ({{jwp|石狩山地}}), the {{wp|Yubari Mountains}} ({{jwp|夕張山地}}), and the {{wp|Hidaka Mountains}} ({{jwp|日高山脈}}).
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Spear Pillar]]
| {{jwp|旭岳}}
| {{wp|Asahi-dake}}
| {{jwp|上川総合振興局}}
| {{wp|Kamikawa Subprefecture|Kamikawa}}
| Asahi-dake is the tallest mountain peak in Hokkaido, the region which Sinnoh is based on. Its native Ainu name is Kamui-mintara, which means "the playground of the gods".
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Hearthome City]]
| {{jwp|帯広市}}
| {{wp|Obihiro, Hokkaido|Obihiro City}}
| {{jwp|十勝総合振興局}}
| {{wp|Tokachi Subprefecture|Tokachi}}
| Obihiro is considered a pleasant city for the Japanese, known for its festivals, shops, street restaurants and the horse track, from which the cheerful atmosphere of Hearthome and the contest hall take inspiration.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Sinnoh Route 208|Route 208]]
| {{jwp|清水町}} or {{jwp|新得町}}
| {{wp|Shimizu, Hokkaido|Shizumu Town}} or {{wp|Shintoku, Hokkaido|Shintoku Town}}
| {{jwp|十勝総合振興局}}
| {{wp|Tokachi Subprefecture|Tokachi}}
|The river on this route is based of Tokachi River.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Pokémon Mansion (Sinnoh)|Pokémon Mansion]]
| {{jwp|真鍋庭園}}
| Manabe Garden
| {{jwp|十勝総合振興局}}
| {{wp|Tokachi Subprefecture|Tokachi}}
|Founded by the Manabe family in 1896, this botanical garden is known for rare conifer species.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Sinnoh Route 212|Route 212]]
| {{jwp|十勝川}} & {{jwp|六花の森}}
| {{wp|Tokachi River}} & Rokka Forest
| {{jwp|十勝総合振興局}}
| {{wp|Tokachi Subprefecture|Tokachi}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Sinnoh Route 209|Route 209]]
| {{jwp|幕別町}} & {{jwp|本別町}}
| {{wp|Makubetsu, Hokkaido|Makubetsu Town}} & {{wp|Honbetsu, Hokkaido|Honbetsu Town}}
| {{jwp|十勝総合振興局}}
| {{wp|Tokachi Subprefecture|Tokachi}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Lost Tower]]
| {{jwp|常紋トンネル|常紋トンネルの近くにある殉職者追悼碑}}
| Line of Duty Death Memorial by Tsunemon Tunnel
| {{jwp|十勝総合振興局}}
| {{wp|Tokachi Subprefecture|Tokachi}}
|The memorial is dedicated toward enslaved workers, who died building the Tsunemon Tunnel. The bodies of the forced laborers were buried inside said tunnel.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Solaceon Town]]
| {{jwp|足寄町}}
| {{wp|Ashoro, Hokkaido|Ashoro Town}}
| {{jwp|十勝総合振興局}}
| {{wp|Tokachi Subprefecture|Tokachi}}
| One of Ashoro's main industries is farming.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Solaceon Ruins]] & [[Maniac Tunnel]]
| [[jwp:雄阿寒岳|雄阿寒岳]]
| Mt. Oakan
| {{jwp|十勝総合振興局}}
| {{wp|Tokachi Subprefecture|Tokachi}}
| Hikers on Mt. Oakan report several subterranean caves that vent cool air to the outside.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Veilstone City]]
| {{jwp|網走市}}, {{jwp|斜里町}}
| {{wp|Abashiri, Hokkaido|Abashiri City}} & {{wp|Shari, Hokkaido|Shari Town}}
| {{jwp|オホーツク総合振興局}}
| {{wp|Okhotsk Subprefecture|Okhotsk}}
| Both are major port and fishing settlements in Eastern Hokkaido (Japanese: {{jwp|道東}}).
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Sinnoh Route 215|Route 215]]
| {{jwp|北海道道334号中藻興部興部線}}
| Hokkaido Road No. 334 Nakamo Kobu Okoppe Line
| {{jwp|オホーツク総合振興局}}
| {{wp|Okhotsk Subprefecture|Okhotsk}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Sinnoh Route 210|Route 210]]
| {{jwp|サロマ湖}}, {{jwp|能取湖}}, {{jwp|網走湖}}
| {{wp|Lake Saroma}}, {{wp|Lake Notoro}}, {{wp|Lake Abashiri}}
| {{jwp|オホーツク総合振興局}}
| {{wp|Okhotsk Subprefecture|Okhotsk}}
| Geographically, it should be around Hokkaido Roads No. 239 Kumaushi Otofuke Line & No. 333 Engaru Stop Line
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Celestic Town]]
| {{jwp|遠軽町}} & {{jwp|湧別町}}
| {{wp|Engaru, Hokkaido|Engaru Town}} & {{wp|Yūbetsu, Hokkaido|Yūbetsu Town}}
| {{jwp|オホーツク総合振興局}}
| {{wp|Okhotsk Subprefecture|Okhotsk}}
|Both places are notable for archaeological sites, such as Shirataki Ruins and Shibunotsunai Pit-house Remains. Celestic Ruins could also be based on Tokoro Ruins, one of the important {{wp|Hokkaidō Heritage}} sites, located in Kitami City (former Tokoro Town area). However, it is geographically a bit further away from matching up with Sinnoh map, unlike the former two towns.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Sinnoh Route 214|Route 214]]
| {{jwp|清里町}}, {{jwp|弟子屈町}}
| {{wp|Kiyosato, Hokkaido|Kiyosato Town}} & {{wp|Teshikaga, Hokkaido|Teshikaga Town}}
| {{jwp|オホーツク総合振興局}}, {{jwp|釧路総合振興局}}
| {{wp|Okhotsk Subprefecture|Okhotsk}}, {{wp|Kushiro Subprefecture|Kushiro}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Sendoff Spring]]
| {{jwp|摩周湖}}
| {{wp|Lake Mashu|Lake Mashū}}
| {{jwp|釧路総合振興局}}
| {{wp|Kushiro Subprefecture|Kushiro}}
| Lake Mashu, a crater lake, is known as a mysterious spot for the fog that covers its surface.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Turnback Cave]]
| {{jwp|摩周湖#カムイシュ島（中島）|カムイシュ島}}
| Kamuishu Island
| {{jwp|釧路総合振興局}}
| {{wp|Kushiro Subprefecture|Kushiro}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Valor Lakefront]]
| {{jwp|標茶町}}
| {{wp|Shibecha, Hokkaido|Shibecha Town}}
| {{jwp|釧路総合振興局}}
| {{wp|Kushiro Subprefecture|Kushiro}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Lake Valor]]
| {{jwp|屈斜路湖}} and/or {{jwp|阿寒湖}}
| {{wp|Lake Kussharo}} and/or {{wp|Lake Akan}}
| {{jwp|釧路総合振興局}}
| {{wp|Kushiro Subprefecture|Kushiro}}
| Lake Kussharo is the largest caldera lake with the largest lake island in Japan. [[Volo]]'s alternative theory of lake formation in {{g|Legends: Arceus}} could be inspired by a real-life {{wp|Ainu people|Ainu}} legend that Lake Kussharo is formed by the landslide during the fight between a giant {{wp|Salvelinus leucomaenis|whitespotted char}} and the {{wp|Kamuy|''kamuy''}} and {{wp|culture hero|hero}} {{wp|Ae-oyna-kamuy|Okikurmi}}. Lake Akan's southern shore is home to several hotels.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Pastoria City]]
| {{jwp|釧路市}}
| {{wp|Kushiro, Hokkaido|Kushiro City}}
| {{jwp|釧路総合振興局}}
| {{wp|Kushiro Subprefecture|Kushiro}}
| Kushiro is the largest city in Eastern Hokkaido.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Sinnoh Route 213|Route 213]]
| {{jwp|厚岸町}}
| {{wp|Akkeshi, Hokkaido|Akkeshi Town}}
| {{jwp|釧路総合振興局}}
| {{wp|Kushiro Subprefecture|Kushiro}}
| Akkeshi Town is a famous tourist attraction.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Great Marsh]]
| {{jwp|釧路湿原}}
| {{wp|Kushiro-shitsugen National Park|Kushiro Wetland}}
| {{jwp|釧路総合振興局}}
| {{wp|Kushiro Subprefecture|Kushiro}}
| The Kushiro Wetland is the largest marsh in Japan.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Sinnoh Route 218|Route 218]]
| {{jwp|函館本線}}
| {{wp|Hakodate Main Line}}
| {{jwp|石狩振興局}}
| {{wp|Ishikari Subprefecture|Ishikari}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Canalave City]]
| {{jwp|小樽市}}
| {{wp|Otaru, Hokkaido|Otaru City}}
| {{jwp|後志総合振興局}}
| {{wp|Shiribeshi Subprefecture|Shiribeshi}}
| Otaru is a port city and has a canal
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Sinnoh Route 216|Route 216]]
| {{jwp|下川町}}, {{jwp|ピヤシリ山}}
| {{wp|Shimokawa, Hokkaido|Shimokawa Town}} & {{wp|Mount Piyashiri}}
| {{jwp|上川総合振興局}}
| {{wp|Kamikawa Subprefecture|Kamikawa}}
| There are many ski resorts in these areas.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Sinnoh Route 217|Route 217]]
| {{jwp|宗谷本線}}
| {{wp|Sōya Main Line}}
| {{jwp|上川総合振興局}}, {{jwp|宗谷総合振興局}}
| {{wp|Kamikawa Subprefecture|Kamikawa}}, {{wp|Soya Subprefecture|Sōya}}
| Somewhere around Toyotomi Town and Nayoro City.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Snowpoint City]]
| {{jwp|稚内市}}, {{jwp|浜頓別町}}
| {{wp|Wakkanai, Hokkaido|Wakkanai City}} & {{wp|Hamatonbetsu, Hokkaido|Hamatonbetsu Town}}
| {{jwp|宗谷総合振興局}}
| {{wp|Soya Subprefecture|Sōya}}
| Two of the northernmost settlements in mainland Japan. Wakkanai is famous for its maritime trade with Russia, and {{wp|Hokumon Jinja|Hokumon Jinja}}, a possible inspiration for [[Snowpoint Temple]]. Geographically, it is most likely Hamatonbetsu Town as the town is located immediately to the east of Lake Kutcharo (being the model for Lake Acuity) just as Snowpoint City is immediately to the east of Lake Acuity. Additionally, Hamatonbetsu was also within the radius of a volcanic eruption of the nearby Mt. Rishiri (Newmoon Island), approximately 8,000 years ago during the Jōmon period.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Snowpoint Temple]]
| {{jwp|北門神社}}
| {{wp|Hokumon Jinja|Hokumon Jinja}}
| {{jwp|宗谷総合振興局}}
| {{wp|Soya Subprefecture|Sōya}}
| A Shinto shrine located in the northern portion of the Wakkanai City.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Lake Acuity]]
| {{jwp|クッチャロ湖}}
| {{wp|Lake Kutcharo}}
| {{jwp|宗谷総合振興局}}
| {{wp|Soya Subprefecture|Sōya}}
| Lake Kutcharo is not a caldera lake but a {{wp|brackish water|brackish}} lake formed by the {{wp|Sea of Okhotsk}}. This is further hinted by [[Volo]]'s lines in {{g|Legends: Arceus}}. The lake shares its etymology with the aforementioned Lake Kussharo, Ainu ''kut-caro'' ("marsh outlet").
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Sinnoh Route 222|Route 222]]
| {{jwp|浜中町}}
| {{wp|Hamanaka, Hokkaido|Hamanaka Town}}
| {{jwp|釧路総合振興局}}
| {{wp|Kushiro Subprefecture|Kushiro}}
| Its Ainu name "ota-noske" means "center of the sandy beach".
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Sunyshore City]]
| {{jwp|根室市}}
| {{wp|Nemuro, Hokkaido|Nemuro City}}
| {{jwp|根室振興局}}
| {{wp|Nemuro Subprefecture|Nemuro}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Vista Lighthouse]]
| {{jwp|納沙布岬灯台}}
| {{wp|Nosappumisaki Lighthouse}}
| {{jwp|根室振興局}}
| {{wp|Nemuro Subprefecture|Nemuro}}
| Nosappumisaki Lighthouse is located on Cape Nosappu, Japan's easternmost spot open to the public.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Iron Island]]
| {{jwp|焼尻島}}
| {{wp|Yagishiri Island}}
| {{jwp|留萌振興局}}
| {{wp|Rumoi Subprefecture|Rumoi}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Sinnoh Route 223|Water Route 223]]
| {{jwp|歯舞群島}} & {{jwp|色丹}}
| {{wp|Habomai Islands}} & {{wp|Shikotan}}
| {{jwp|根室振興局}}
| {{wp|Nemuro Subprefecture|Nemuro}}
| The largest reef on this route resembles Shikotan.
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{si|Victory Road}}
| {{wp|ru:Вулкан Головнина|Головнин}}
| {{wp|Golovnin}}
| {{wp|ru:Южно-Курильский городской округ|Южно-Курильский}}
| {{wp|Yuzhno-Kurilsky District|Yuzhno-Kurilsky}}
| One of the location on Kunashir Island, which has been disputed between Japan and Russia since the end of WWII due to ambiguities in the Treaty of San Francisco. Though both countries claim it, the island is controlled by Russia.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Pokémon League (Sinnoh)|Pokémon League]]
| {{wp|ru:Вулкан Менделеева|Менделеева}}
| {{wp|Mendeleyeva}}
| {{wp|ru:Южно-Курильский городской округ|Южно-Курильский}}
| {{wp|Yuzhno-Kurilsky District|Yuzhno-Kurilsky}}
| The waterfall in front of the Pokémon League is probably based on the caldera lake in the central part of Kunashir Island.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Sinnoh Route 224|Route 224]]
| {{wp|ru:Тятя|Тятя}} & {{wp|ru:Маяк Ловцова|Маяк Ловцова}}
| {{wp|Tyatya}} & Cape Lovtsova
| {{wp|ru:Южно-Курильский городской округ|Южно-Курильский}}
| {{wp|Yuzhno-Kurilsky District|Yuzhno-Kurilsky}}
| The easternmost cape of Kunashir Island.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Seabreak Path]]
| {{wp|ru:Курильские острова|Курильские острова}}
| {{wp|Kuril Islands}}
| {{wp|ru:Южно-Курильский городской округ|Южно-Курильский}}, {{wp|ru:Курильский район|Курильский}}, {{wp|ru:Северо-Курильский район|Северо-Курильский}}
| {{wp|Yuzhno-Kurilsky District|Yuzhno-Kurilsky}}, {{wp|Kurilsky District|Kurilsky}}, {{wp|Severo-Kurilsky District|Severo-Kurilsky}}
| In real life, Kuril Islands are an archipelago, that forms a straight chain made of several smaller islands.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Flower Paradise]]
| {{wp|ru:Остров Атласова|Остров Атласова}}
| {{wp|Atlasov Island}}
| {{wp|ru:Северо-Курильский район|Северо-Курильский}}
| {{wp|Severo-Kurilsky District|Severo-Kurilsky}}
| Both are the northernmost islands of their respective zones: the Flower Paradise is the northernmost zone in Sinnoh, much like Atlasov, the northernmost island of the Kuril Islands.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Fight Area]]
| {{wp|ru:Невельск|Невельск}}, {{wp|ru:Холмск|Холмск}}
| {{wp|Nevelsk}} or {{wp|Kholmsk}}
| {{wp|ru:Невельский городской округ|Невельский}}
| {{wp|Nevelsky District, Sakhalin Oblast|Nevelsky}}
| Nevelsk town thrived on maritime transportation under Japanese control. It now relies on salmon fishery. Kholmsk used to be a military post and is now one of the largest and important transport center in Sakhalin.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Survival Area]]
| {{wp|ru:Анива (город)|Анива}}
| {{wp|Aniva}}
| {{wp|ru:Анивский городской округ|Анивский}}
| {{wp|Anivsky District|Anivsky}}
| The town is located in a relatively warm area with fertile land suitable for agriculture.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Sinnoh Route 230|Water Route 230]]
| {{wp|ru:Анива (залив)|Залив Анива}}
| {{wp|Aniva Bay}}
| {{wp|ru:Анивский городской округ|Анивский}}, {{wp|ru:Корсаковский городской округ|Корсаковский}}
| {{wp|Anivsky District|Anivsky}}, {{wp|Korsakovsky District, Sakhalin Oblast|Korakovsky}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Resort Area]]
| {{wp|ru:Новиково (Сахалинская область)|Новиково}}
| Novikovo
| {{wp|ru:Корсаковский городской округ|Корсаковский}}
| {{wp|Korsakovsky District, Sakhalin Oblast|Korakovsky}}
| The village shared its Japanese name and etymology with a scenic {{wp|Shiretoko Peninsula|peninsula}} in Hokkaido.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Sinnoh Route 229|Route 229]]
| Бирюзовые озера и леса возле Новиково
| Turquoise lakes and forests near Novikovo
| {{wp|ru:Корсаковский городской округ|Корсаковский}}
| {{wp|Korsakovsky District, Sakhalin Oblast|Korakovsky}}
| A popular tourist destination, due to unusually blue colored quarry lakes, a leftover of coal mining.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Sinnoh Route 228|Route 228]]
| {{wp|ru:Буссе (озеро)|Озеро Буссе}}
| Lake Busse
| {{wp|ru:Корсаковский городской округ|Корсаковский}}
| {{wp|Korsakovsky District, Sakhalin Oblast|Korakovsky}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Sinnoh Route 227|Route 227]]
| {{wp|ru:Дачное (Сахалинская область)|Дачное}}, {{wp|ru:Южно-Сахалинск|Южно-Сахалинск}}
| Dachnoe & {{wp|Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk}}
| {{wp|ru:Корсаковский городской округ|Корсаковский}}, {{wp|ru:Южно-Сахалинск (городской округ)|Южно-Сахалинск}}
| {{wp|Korsakovsky District, Sakhalin Oblast|Korakovsky}}, Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk
| The black rocks found Route 227 could be based on red soil near Dachnoe.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Stark Mountain]]
| {{wp|ru:Пик Чехова|Пик Чехова}}
| Pik Chekhova
| {{wp|ru:Южно-Сахалинск (городской округ)|Южно-Сахалинск}}
|Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk
| This mountain near the Oblast capital {{wp|Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk}} (formerly {{jwp|豊原市|Toyohara}}) is named after {{wp|Anton Chekhov}}, who visited Sakhalin in 1890, in Russian. Unlike the game location, the real mountain is not a volcano.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Sinnoh Route 226|Water Route 226]]
| {{wp|ru:Анива (залив)|Залив Анива}}
| {{wp|Aniva Bay}}
| {{wp|ru:Анивский городской округ|Анивский}}, {{wp|ru:Корсаковский городской округ|Корсаковский}}
| {{wp|Anivsky District|Anivsky}}, {{wp|Korsakovsky District, Sakhalin Oblast|Korakovsky}}
| The island in the middle of this route could be based on Moneron Island, but it is located west of Sakhalin, not in Aniva Bay itself.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Fullmoon Island]]
| {{jwp|礼文島}}
| {{wp|Rebun Island}}
| {{jwp|宗谷総合振興局}}
| {{wp|Soya Subprefecture|Sōya}}
| Rebun Island is famous for its flowers and mountains, reflected in the geography of Fullmoon Island. Rebun Island was a cult site for the god {{wp|Rep-un-kamuy}}, worshiped for offering food and guiding navigators. Rep-un-kamuy is described as being generous, similar to Cresselia's peaceful demeanor, and offering help, much like Cresselia does in the form of the [[Lunar Feather]] to the player.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Newmoon Island]]
| {{jwp|利尻島}}
| {{wp|Rishiri Island}}
| {{jwp|宗谷総合振興局}}
| {{wp|Soya Subprefecture|Sōya}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
|}

=====Hisui=====
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|-
! style="background:#6AA9E4; width:15%; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Pokémon world
! style="background:#6AA9E4; width:25%" colspan="2" | Specific location
! style="background:#6AA9E4; width:20%" colspan="2" | Subprefecture
! style="background:#6AA9E4; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Notes
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Prelude Beach]]
| {{jwp|石狩湾}}
| {{wp|Ishikari Bay}}
| colspan="2" |
| Both {{wp|Otaru}} and Sapporo developed from Japanese trading posts and early settlements around Ishikari Bay.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Jubilife Village]]
| {{jwp|札幌市}}
| {{wp|Sapporo, Hokkaido|Sapporo City}}
| rowspan="4" | {{jwp|石狩振興局}}
| rowspan="4" | {{wp|Ishikari Subprefecture|Ishikari}}
| Many locations within Jubilife Village appear to be based on historical landmarks of Sapporo. [[Galaxy Hall]] is based on the {{wp|Former Hokkaidō Government Office}}, an example of American {{wp|Baroque Revival architecture}} in Japan. [[Jubilife Village#Floaro Main Street|Floaro Main Street]] is based on the {{wp|Odori Park|Odori}} street (now an urban park). Canala Bridge is based on Sosei Bridge, both featuring {{wp|Giboshi}} on railings. The [[Jubilife Village#Farm|Farm]] and [[Pasture]] could correspond to the merged {{jwp|山鼻村|Yamana Village}} and {{jwp|札幌村|Sapporo Village}} (now {{wp|Higashi-ku, Sapporo|Higashi-ku}} or "east ward").
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Aspiration Hill]]
| {{jwp|羊ケ丘}}
| {{wp|Hitsujigaoka Observation Hill|Hitsujigaoka}}
| The bronze statue of Dr. {{wp|William S. Clark}}, co-founder and President of the {{wp|Sapporo Agricultural College}} (later the {{wp|Hokkaido University}}), stands on the hill. The name "Aspiration" could be a reference to Dr. Clark's parting words to his Japanese students, "Boys, be ambitious!"
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Horseshoe Plains]]
| {{jwp|道立自然公園野幌森林公園|野幌森林}}
| {{wp|Nopporo Shinrin Kōen Prefectural Natural Park|Nopporo Forest}}
| Now a {{wp|List of national parks of Japan#History|Prefectural Natural Park}}.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Deertrack Heights]]
| {{jwp|馬追丘陵}}
| Maoi Hills
| {{wp|Eniwa, Hokkaido|Eniwa}} and {{wp|Chitose, Hokkaido|Chitose}}, two satellite cities of Sapporo, are situated on the west slope of the Maoi Hills.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Sandgem Flats]]
| {{jwp|勇払平野}}
| Yūfutsu Plain
| {{jwp|胆振総合振興局}}
| {{wp|Iburi Subprefecture|Iburi}}
| {{wp|Tomakomai, Hokkaido|Tomakomai City}} is located in the middle of the Yūfutsu Plain.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Obsidian Falls]]
| 千鳥ヶ滝
| Chidori Falls
| rowspan="2" | {{jwp|空知総合振興局}}
| rowspan="2" | {{wp|Sorachi Subprefecture|Sorachi}}
| The {{wp|Yūbari River}} formed various cascades on the west boundary of the Yūbari City, collectively known as "Chidori".
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Grueling Grove]]
| {{jwp|栗山町}}
| {{wp|Kuriyama, Hokkaido|Kuriyama Town}}
| The town is named after the dense chestnut forest on the site.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Golden Lowlands]] and [[Gapejaw Bog]]
| {{wp|十勝平野}}
| {{wp|Tokachi Plain}}
| {{jwp|十勝総合振興局}}
| {{wp|Tokachi Subprefecture|Tokachi}}
| Japan's second largest plain and major crop production area is shaped by the {{wp|Tokachi River}}. The region also saw wetland restoration and indigenous cultural revival in recent years.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Scarlet Bog]]
| {{jwp|鶴居村}}
| {{wp|Tsurui|Tsurui Village}}
| rowspan="4" | {{jwp|釧路総合振興局}}
| rowspan="4" | {{wp|Kushiro Subprefecture|Kushiro}}
| The {{wp|Kushiro-shitsugen National Park|wetland national park}} spans the administrative areas of Kushiro City, Tsurui Village, and Shibecha Town. The location of Scaelet Bog in Crimson Mireland is comparable to that of Tsurui in the Kushiro wetland.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Cottonsedge Prairie]]
| {{jwp|弟子屈町}}
| {{wp|Teshikaga, Hokkaido|Teshikaga Town}}
| The southern half of Teshikaga consists of the lower plains south of Lake Lake Kussharo and Lake Akan.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Droning Meadow]]
| {{jwp|標茶町}}
| {{wp|Shibecha, Hokkaido|Shibecha Town}}
| The pond where wild {{p|Turtwig}} is encountered may be based on {{jwp|シラルトロ沼|Lake Shirarutoro}} or {{jwp|塘路湖|Lake Tо̄ro}}.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Sludge Mound]] and [[Ursa's Ring]]
| {{jwp|阿寒町}}
| {{wp|Akan, Hokkaido|Akan Town}}
| The former Yūbestu Coal Mine (雄別炭鉱) and the Kushiro City Zoo are located in Akan Town, now part of Kushiro City. Following the closure of the coal mine in 1970, forests were restored and sightings of {{wp|Ussuri brown bear}} have become common in recent decades.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Solaceon Ruins]], [[Bolderoll Slope]], and [[Diamond Heath]]
| {{wp|阿寒岳}}
| {{wp|Akan Volcanic Complex}}
| colspan="2" |
| The mountain in which the Solaceon Ruins are carved resembles Mount Akan-Fuji, and the ridges on its northwest resemble {{wp|Mount Meakan}}. The peak to the east of the settlement could be based on {{wp|Mount Oakan}}.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Diamond Settlement]]
| 阿寒湖アイヌコタン
| Lake Akan Ainu Kotan
| rowspan="3" | {{jwp|釧路総合振興局}}
| rowspan="3" | {{wp|Kushiro Subprefecture|Kushiro}}
| It is the largest Ainu settlement in Hokkaido with 120 inhabitants. Most of the ''Kotan'' have been converted into tourist attractions and cultural facilities.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Cloudpool Ridge]]
| {{jwp|釧北峠}}
| Senpoku Pass
| This mountain pass through the watershed of the Kushiro River, the Tokachi River, and the {{wp|Abashiri River}} is part of an Ainu road leading to seaside.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Shrouded Ruins]]
| {{jwp|津別峠}}
| Tsubetsu Pass
| Known for cloud view and dense mountain fog, this mountain pass is the site of an observation deck in a European-style castle that oversees Lake Kussharo.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Crossing Slope]]
| {{jwp|中標津町}}
| {{wp|Nakashibetsu, Hokkaido|Nakashibetsu Town}}
| rowspan="8" | {{jwp|根室振興局}}
| rowspan="8" | {{wp|Nemuro Subprefecture|Nemuro}}
| rowspan="2" | The player's encounter with the [[Ride Pokémon (Hisui)|special]] [[Basculegion]] could be a reference to the predominant role of Shibetsu, Nemuro in salmon fishery.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Ginkgo Landing]]
| {{jwp|標津町}}
| {{wp|Shibetsu, Hokkaido (Nemuro)|Shibetsu Town}}
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Bathers' Lagoon]]
| {{jwp|風蓮湖}} and {{jwp|温根沼}}
| {{wp|Lake Furen|Lake Fūren}} and Lake Onneto
| These two adjacent {{wp|brackish water|brackish}} lakes form a large lagoon in the Nemuro Bay. Lake Fūren is a {{wp|Ramsar Convention|Ramsar}} wetland.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Deadwood Haunt]]
| {{jwp|根室半島}}
| {{wp|Nemuro Peninsula}}
| The wrecked ships in this area could be a reference to the maritime archeological sites of the {{wp|Okhotsk culture}}.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Sand's Reach]]
| {{jwp|納沙布岬}}
| {{wp|Cape Nosappu}}
| Cape Nosappu is more similar to a palm facing upwards than one spreading its five fingers.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Hideaway Bay]]
| {{jwp|落石岬|落石湾}}
| Rakuseki Bay
| Rakuseki Bay refers to the water body between Cape Ochiishi and Hanamatsu, Nemuro.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Tombolo Walk]]
| {{jwp|ユルリ島}} and {{jwp|モユルリ島}}
| Yururi Island and Moyururi Island
| These two uninhabited islands off the coast of Nemuro Peninsula have been designated as nature reserve since the late 1970s.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Castaway Shore]]
| {{jwp|羅臼町}}
| {{wp|Rausu, Hokkaido|Rausu Town}}
| Named after the {{wp|Mount Rausu|main peak}} of the Shiretoko volcanoes, the town occupies the southeastern half of the peninsula.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Aipom Hill]]
| {{jwp|根釧台地}}
| Konsen Plateau
| colspan="2" |
| The lattice windbreak on its windward side is a {{wp|Hokkaidō Heritage}} site.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Tranquility Cove]]
| {{jwp|野付湾}} and {{jwp|根室湾}}
| {{wp|Notsuke Bay}} and {{wp|Nemuro Bay}}
| colspan="2" |
| The dry forest along the [[Cobalt Coastlands]] could be inspired by {{jwp|トドワラ|Todowara}}, forests of withered {{wp|Abies sachalinensis|Sakhalin fir}}s on the {{wp|Notsuke Peninsula}}.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Windbreak Stand]]
| {{jwp|斜里岳道立自然公園}}
| {{wp|Sharidake Prefectural Natural Park}}
| colspan="2" |
| This natural park is named after {{wp|Mount Shari}}, whose montane forests form natural windbreaks.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Veilstone Cape]]
| {{jwp|知床半島}}
| {{wp|Shiretoko Peninsula}}
| colspan="2" |
| Shiretoko derives from {{wp|Ainu language|Ainu}} ''sir-etok'' (land's end). The peninsula was registered as a UNESCO {{wp|World Heritage Site}} under the natural category in 2005.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Lunker's Lair]]
| {{jwp|知床岬}}
| Cape Shiretoko
| rowspan="2" | {{jwp|オホーツク総合振興局}}
| rowspan="2" | {{wp|Okhotsk Subprefecture|Okhotsk}}
| The northeastern-most portion of the Shiretoko Peninsula is under the administration of Shari.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Islespy Shore]]
| {{jwp|斜里町}}
| {{wp|Shari, Hokkaido|Shari Town}}
| The visitor center of the {{wp|Shiretoko National Park}} belongs to Shari.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Wayward Wood]]
| {{jwp|富良野岳}}
| {{wp|Mount Furano}}
| rowspan="4" | {{jwp|上川総合振興局}}
| rowspan="4" | {{wp|Kamikawa Subprefecture|Kamikawa}}
| Mt. Furano is a stratovolcano in the {{wp|Tokachi Volcanic Group}} with rich floral diversity.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Ancient Quarry]]
| {{jwp|十勝岳}}
| {{wp|Mount Tokachi (Daisetsuzan)|Mount Tokachi}}
| Mt. Tokachi is known for its sulfur deposit and bogs, along with natural hot springs. Most sulfur quarries were destroyed by the 1962 eruption.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Temple of Sinnoh]]
| 旭岳
| Mount Asahi
| The Greek architecture of the Temple of Sinnoh may be inspired by the {{wp|Parthenon}}, which was critically damaged by an {{wp|Siege of the Acropolis (1687)|explosion}} in 1687.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Cloudcap Pass]]
| {{jwp|層雲峡}}
| {{wp|Sōunkyō}}
| The ridges and valleys to the east and south of Mt. Asahi was named Sōunkyō (lit. "cloudcap gorges") in 1921.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Clamberclaw Cliffs]]
| {{jwp|石狩岳}}
| {{wp|Mount Ishikari}}
| colspan="2" |
| Mount Ishikari is the watershed of the {{wp|Pacific Ocean}} and the {{wp|Sea of Japan}}.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Whiteout Valley]]
| {{jwp|音威子府村}}
| {{wp|Otoineppu, Hokkaido|Otoineppu}}
| rowspan="2" | {{jwp|上川総合振興局}}
| rowspan="2" | {{wp|Kamikawa Subprefecture|Kamikawa}}
| The village is a tourist attraction known for Mt. Otoi-Fuji (音威富士) and ski resorts.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Avalanche Slopes]]
| {{jwp|中川町}}
| {{wp|Nakagawa, Hokkaido|Nakagawa Town}}
| The large amount of {{wp|Ammonoidea|ammonites}} excavated in this village in the Meiji era earned it the nickname "Fossile Village".
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Avalugg's Legacy]]
| {{jwp|中頓別町}}
| {{wp|Nakatonbetsu, Hokkaido|Nakatonbetsu Town}}
| rowspan="2" | {{jwp|宗谷総合振興局}}
| rowspan="2" | {{wp|Soya Subprefecture|Sōya}}
| The large ice formation may be inspired by Mount Pinneshiri (ピンネシリ岳), whose contour line resembles a tortoise shell on maps. The underground caves in this area could be based on the Nakatonbetsu Limestone Cave (中頓別鍾乳洞), which is the northernmost {{wp|Karst}} system of Japan and a nature park.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Pearl Settlement]]
| {{jwp|浜頓別町}}
| {{wp|Hamatonbetsu, Hokkaido|Hamatonbetsu Town}}
| The land was inhabited by an Ainu tribe named Nitat-nay (仁達内 ''Nitachinai''), whose name means "wetland river". First seen in 1670, the name "Tonbetsu" derives from {{wp|Ainu language|Ainu}} ''to-un-pet'' (river running out of a lake), referring to its location at the confluence of the Tonbetsu River and Lake Kutcharo.
|}

====Unova====
[[File:Pokémon to real world Unova New York.png|thumb|A comparison of Unova to New York City and parts of eastern New Jersey.]]
[[Unova]] has been said to be significantly distant from Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, and Sinnoh. Instead of being based on an area of Japan, Unova is based on {{wp|New York City}} as well as parts of northeastern {{wp|New Jersey}} and western {{wp|Long Island}}. Both New York and New Jersey are part of the {{wp|United States}}.

{| style="background:#2E83D2; margin-left:10px; margin-bottom:10px; {{roundy}}; border:3px solid #81807A"
|-
! style="background:#6AA9E4; width:15%; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Pokémon world
! style="background:#6AA9E4; width:25%" | Specific location
! style="background:#6AA9E4; width:20%" | State (New York City borough/county)
! style="background:#6AA9E4; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Notes
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Nuvema Town]]
| {{wp|Sea Gate, Brooklyn|Sea Gate}}
| {{wp|New York City}} ({{wp|Brooklyn}})
| On the map, it is clearly placed at the western tip of Coney Island. Seagate is a gated community largely consisting of single-family homes, frequently featuring fencing and barriers between it and the beach that loosely match the barriers south of Nuvema Town.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Unova Route 1]]
| {{wp|Bay Ridge, Brooklyn|Bay Ridge}}
| {{wp|New York City}} ({{wp|Brooklyn}})
| North of Coney Island and featuring the Shore Road Park, which runs nearly the entire western length of the neighborhood. It also allows direct access to the Lower and Upper New York Bay.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Unova Route 17]]
| {{wp|Lower New York Bay}}
| {{wp|New York City}} ({{wp|Brooklyn}})
| The bay immediately adjacent to Shore Road Park and Bay Ridge.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[P2 Laboratory]]
| {{wp|Swinburne Island}}
| {{wp|New York City}}
| The island was created artificially in 1873 using landfill, along with the nearby Hoffman Island, to serve as quarantine for immigrants arriving by ship. Both are currently managed by the National Park service and not open to the public - however, the ruins of structures such as a crematorium can still be seen via satellite. The elongated, hexagonal shape may have inspired the upper part of the Unova map.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Unova Route 18]]
| {{wp|Governors Island}}
| {{wp|New York City}} ({{wp|Manhattan}})
| The reference to ‘once being contiguous with Desert Resort’ (i.e. lower Manhattan) cannot match Long Island, as it was formed from leftover debris from glacial traversal and melting during the end of the last Ice Age (about 11,000 years ago) and was therefore, geologically speaking, not ‘contiguous’ with anything. Desert Resort in particular is very likely a callout to Manhattan Schist – extremely hard and durable granitic bedrock that formed due to compression by a former mountain range, and upon which most of Manhattan’s tallest skyscrapers are (or in this case, were) built. The precise distribution of this schist varies, and maps of the area have notoriously disagreed about the extent and composition of each schist section within the New York City area, explaining the allusion in the Route description. Brock and Brock (2001) place Governors Island as Manhattan schist (i.e. not the Hartland formation), but others seem to disagree. As such, Governors Island is the best fit here.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Accumula Town]]
| {{wp|Sunset Park, Brooklyn|Sunset Park}}
| {{wp|New York City}} ({{wp|Brooklyn}})
| The park this neighborhood derives its name from is known for its hills that specifically offer views of the cityscape of Manhattan.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Unova Route 2]]
| {{wp|Prospect Park (Brooklyn)}}
| {{wp|New York City}} ({{wp|Brooklyn}})
| Located between Sunset Park and Eastern Parkway, this park was known to host a variety of pastoral animals, including sheep and deer.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Striaton City]]
| {{wp|Eastern Parkway}}
| {{wp|New York City}} ({{wp|Brooklyn}})
| Eastern Parkway and the nearby Crown Heights are both steeped in Jewish history, the former having been the new home of many refugees of the Russian pogroms (referenced by 'a former home in a snowier climate' in the description). The stairs being referenced are likely the 770 Eastern Parkway stairs, which lead to an underground synagogue (actually under 784 and 788 Eastern Parkway) that was built after several important figures of the Chabad Lubavitch movement began fleeing Russia around the 1940s. It would then become 'the most recognizable Jewish building in the world,' with over 35 replicas built across various countries as a part of the Chabad Lubavitch movement.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Dreamyard]]
| {{wp|Brooklyn Navy Yard|Admiral's Row, Brooklyn Navy Yard}}
| {{wp|New York City}} ({{wp|Brooklyn}})
| While it is somewhat geographically inaccurate, this yard played an important part in both United States and Japanese history. Admiral's Row formerly housed Commodore Matthew Perry (the same U.S. captain that forcibly ended Japanese isolation in 1853, a major moment that marked the beginning of the end of the rule of the Japanese shogunate). Latios and Latias being found here likely reference the many aircraft carriers that were constructed here for use in World War II, such as the USS Bennington, Kearsarge, and Franklin D. Roosevelt. The yard was mostly demolished in 2015 to build a Wegman's grocery store and a parking lot, with Quarters B (Perry's specific quarters) being one of the few structures remaining. Before its demolition, ruins of the houses and other areas were surrounded by forest and overgrown vegetation - one of the few areas in Brooklyn left like this.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Unova Route 3]]
| {{wp|Brooklyn Botanic Garden|Japanese Hill-and-Pond Garden}}
| {{wp|New York City}} ({{wp|Brooklyn}})
| This roughly matches the Route description, and would indicate that Route 2 crossed east through Prospect Park instead of north.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Wellspring Cave]]
| {{wp|Crown Heights, Brooklyn|Crown Finish Caves (Crown Heights)}}
| {{wp|New York City}} ({{wp|Brooklyn}})
| Originally made to ferment beer 150 years ago, they were purchased in 2001 and retrofitted to instead age and store varieties of cheese, beginning in 2010. Tours of the cave were offered, but the business closed in 2022.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Nacrene City]]
| {{wp|Boerum Hill}}
| {{wp|New York City}} ({{wp|Brooklyn}})
| Used to be mostly populated by working class ironworker families, until gentrification in the late 1990s made it more popular among upper-class individuals. The decommissioned railway and museum in Nacrene City could be a reference to the New York Transit Museum, found near Boerum Hill. Also, in [[Pokémon Adventures]], the city is called "city of art" due to its avant-garde artists, a possible reference to Boerum Hill's own artists and their art galleries.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Pinwheel Forest]]
| {{wp|Cadman Plaza|Cadman Plaza park}}
| {{wp|New York City}} ({{wp|Brooklyn}})
| A park near the Brooklyn Bridge. Although it geographically fits, there are no bodies of water to cross as seen in Pinwheel Forest, nor are there any known reports of hollowed-out trees.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Skyarrow Bridge]]
| {{wp|Brooklyn Bridge}}
| {{wp|New York City}} ({{wp|Brooklyn}} and {{wp|Manhattan}})
| Though the Brooklyn Bridge is not currently the longest bridge in NYC, it was the longest suspension bridge in the world when it opened in 1883. It may also be based on {{wp|Rainbow Bridge (Tokyo)|Rainbow Bridge}} in Tokyo, Japan.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Castelia City]]
| {{wp|Lower Manhattan}}
| {{wp|New York City}} ({{wp|Manhattan}})
| Lower Manhattan is the business center of New York City, as well as the United States. The New York City Hall is located here. This building contains the Office of the Mayor of New York City (executive branch) and the chambers of the New York City Council (legislative branch). The New York County Courthouse (judicial branch) is also located here. The central park of Castelia is likely based on {{wp|The Battery (Manhattan)|Battery Park}}. According to [[Satoshi Yamamoto]], the Café Sonata was based on the {{wp|CBGB}} music club.<ref>[https://x.com/satoshi_swalot/status/1253832721685557248 Satoshi Yamamoto's post on the origin of the Café Sonata]</ref>
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Unova Route 4]]
| {{wp|World Trade Center site}}
| {{wp|New York City}} ({{wp|Manhattan}})
| In all versions of the route, it is shown that the road is being built; in some versions, the route is shown in a desolate and reconstructed form.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Desert Resort]]
| {{wp|Washington Square Park}}
| {{wp|New York City}} ({{wp|Manhattan}})
| There were never any deserts in the Manhattan area, but the presence of such may refer to the depth of bedrock in Manhattan - while lower Manhattan and upper Manhattan have bedrock near to the surface (allowing for tall skyscrapers to be built on the stable ground), mid-Manhattan (such as Greenwich Village) has bedrock at depths as much as 260 feet, and lack skyscrapers - an often-commented-on feature in satellite imagery. Washington Square Park was a dumping ground for about 20,000 bodies during the cholera and yellow fever epidemics between 1797 and 1820, which may explain the presence of Yamask and Cofagrigus in the Relic Castle.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Relic Castle]]
| {{wp|Church of St. Joseph in Greenwich Village}}
| {{wp|New York City}} ({{wp|Manhattan}})
| The oldest Roman Catholic church and sanctuary in New York, it features a prominently Greco-Roman temple-esque construction that may have inspired the same design elements in the Relic Castle.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Relic Passage]]
| {{wp|Holland Tunnel}}
| {{wp|New York City}} ({{wp|Manhattan}})
| Though it doesn't quite lead to the exact appropriate spot on the west exit, the Holland Tunnel is otherwise geographically appropriate.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Join Avenue]]
| {{wp|Fifth Avenue}}
| {{wp|New York City}} ({{wp|Manhattan}})
|5th Avenue (specifically between 49th St. and 60th St.) is the most famous shopping area in midtown Manhattan, featuring designer clothes, jewelry, electronics, and more. This is also where the Nintendo store of Manhattan (the former site of the New York City Pokemon Center) is located.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Nimbasa City]]
| {{wp|Midtown Manhattan}}
| {{wp|New York City}} ({{wp|Manhattan}})
| Midtown Manhattan is the zone where the headquarters of the New York subway, the main skyscrapers of the city and several embassies. Nimbasa's entertainment atmosphere is based on {{wp|Times Square}}, the main center of entertainment, food, sports, products etc, of New York.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Battle Subway|Gear Station]]
| {{wp|Times Square–42nd Street station}}
| {{wp|New York City}} ({{wp|Manhattan}})
| The busiest subway station in the entire NYC metro system, connecting to almost all major branches.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Big Stadium and Small Court]]
| {{wp|West Side Stadium}} and {{wp|Madison Square Garden}}
| {{wp|New York City}} ({{wp|Manhattan}})
| West Side Stadium was a proposed Olympic stadium that was cancelled in 2005. Considering American football, soccer, and baseball games are held at Big Stadium, it may also draw inspiration from {{wp|Polo Grounds}}.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Pokémon Musical|Musical Theater]]
| {{wp|Broadway theatre|Broadway}}
| {{wp|New York City}} ({{wp|Manhattan}})
| Like Broadway, Pokémon Musical is often visited in the city where dances and choreography are done with their own stories just like a real musical.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Lostlorn Forest]]
| {{wp|The Pond and Hallett Nature Sanctuary|Hallett Nature Sanctuary}}
| {{wp|New York City}} ({{wp|Manhattan}})
| It features Waterfalls Central Park, which houses most of the five artificial waterfalls of Central Park.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Unova Route 5]]
| {{wp|Bryant Park}}
| {{wp|New York City}} ({{wp|Manhattan}})
| Food trucks are only allowed in certain parts of New York City, especially midtown Manhattan. The only park near Lincoln Tunnel that is within the allowed area is Bryant Park, though it's south and slightly east of Times Square rather than west.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Driftveil Drawbridge]]
| {{wp|Lincoln Tunnel}}
| {{wp|New York City}} ({{wp|Manhattan}}) and {{wp|New Jersey}} ({{wp|Weehawken, New Jersey|Weehawken}})
| No drawbridge was ever constructed or proposed to cross the Hudson River. It's unclear why this is not based on a tunnel.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Driftveil City]]
| {{wp|Union City, New Jersey|Union City}}
| {{wp|New Jersey}} ({{wp|Hudson County, New Jersey|Hudson County}})
| Union City is known for its many mining companies. The Pokémon World Tournament stadium may reference the {{wp|MetLife Stadium}}.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Unova Route 6]]
| {{wp|Port Imperial|Port Imperial Blvd./River Road}}
| {{wp|New Jersey}} ({{wp|Weehawken, New Jersey|Weehawken}})
| Several parks full of trees run adjacent to this road, an unusual sight in the otherwise metropolitan area. While there are no direct water crossings, the name 'River Road' may have inspired the look of Route 6.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Clay Tunnel]]
| {{wp|Schuyler Copper Mine}}
| {{wp|New Jersey}} ({{wp|North Arlington, New Jersey}})
| Tunnels running off of the main mining area have been known since 1989 to collapse, creating sinkholes in the backyards of nearby houses and endangering residents.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Chargestone Cave]]
| {{wp|Edgewater Branch}}
| {{wp|New Jersey}} ({{wp|Fairview, New Jersey}})
| Directly southeast of Teterboro, much like Chargestone Cave is southeast of Mistralton. Has tourmaline deposits (the name 'Chargestone' derives from the alternate reading of tourmaline in Japanese). Opened in 1894 (116 years before the release of Black and White) and closed in 1992 to railway traffic, but is still accessible on foot. The Hudson Project, an electrical cable connecting the Bergen Power Generating Station in Ridgefield, NJ to New York City's electrical grid through the Edgewater Tunnel was submitted in February 2009, started in May 2011 and completed by 2013.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Mistralton City]]
| {{wp|Teterboro, New Jersey|Teterboro}}
| {{wp|New Jersey}} ({{wp|Bergen County, New Jersey|Bergen County}})
| The Mistralton City Airport's real-life counterpart is the {{wp|Teterboro Airport}}.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Mistralton Cave]]
| {{wp|Schuyler Copper Mine}}
| {{wp|New Jersey}} ({{wp|North Arlington, New Jersey}})
| The exact extent of the caves and tunnels under the mine are unknown, but they likely don't reach this far north. However, there are no nearby caves that would be a better fit.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Unova Route 7]]
| {{wp|Meadowlands Environment Center|Richard W. DeKorte Park (Meadowlands Environment Center)}}
| {{wp|New Jersey}} ({{wp|Lyndhurst, New Jersey|Lyndhurst}})
| The Marsh Discovery Trail features raised walkways over the marsh, grasses and rivers, though only for a small portion near the Environmental Center and New Jersey Sports and Exhibition Authority.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Celestial Tower]]
| {{wp|Hillside Cemetery (Lyndhurst, New Jersey)|Hillside Cemetery}}
| {{wp|New Jersey}} ({{wp|Lyndhurst, New Jersey|Lyndhurst}})
| The exact appearance may derive inspiration from a strange, spiral-shaped garden near the Richard W. DeKorte Environmental Center, and the presence of Ghost-types from the adjacent Hillside Cemetery. The Richard W. DeKorte Park also features the 40-foot AMVETS Carillon (a musical instrument of several bells, in this case 3 but usually at least 23), which tolls several times an hour and was constructed in 2007 by the AMVETS Post 20 (a veteran's organization located in Lyndhurst, NJ).
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Twist Mountain]]
| {{wp|Schuyler Copper Mine}}
| {{wp|New Jersey}} ({{wp|North Arlington, New Jersey}})
| Closed in 1901, this copper mine still has tunnels and caves in the present day. Ore was apparently packed in barrels (matching those strewn about Twist Mountain), and included the bright blue-green chrysocolla and deep green malachite that may be reflected in the green gemstones of Clay's hat and Gym backdrop. The cemented 'official' entrance is located at 36 Avon Pl., and the actual site of the mine appears to currently be a landfill with elevated terrain, matching the external appearance of Twist Mountain.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Icirrus City]]
| {{wp|Ridgefield Park, New Jersey|Ridgefield Park}}
| {{wp|New Jersey}} ({{wp|Bergen County, New Jersey|Bergen County}})
| Bergen County is known for being one of the snowiest counties in new Jersey. In-game terrain implies it is located on local high ground compared to the lowlands of the Moor of Icirrus and Route 8. By both name and local elevation, Ridgefield Park fits the most.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Moor of Icirrus]]
| {{wp|Englewood, New Jersey|Flat Rock Brook}}
| {{wp|New Jersey}} ({{wp|Bergen County, New Jersey|Bergen County}})
| Obviously based on the wetlands of New Jersey, which were the aftermath of the formation of the Palisades Forest - more specifically, Flat Rock Brook, which owes its name to the many 'flat rocks' in the river that trapped and slowed water flow, allowing water to pool in nearby areas and form vernal pools. These vernal pools are vital to the reproduction processes of certain species of frogs and others, and have seen major efforts at restoration in New Jersey in recent decades.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Dragonspiral Tower]]
| {{wp|Camp Merritt Memorial Monument}}
| {{wp|New Jersey}} ({{wp|Bergen County, New Jersey|Bergen County}})
| It was directly based on the {{wp||Washington Monument}}, and was constructed as a memorial to the soldiers that passed through Camp Merritt on their way to World War I, many of which died of influenza. It was named for General Wesley Merritt, who served in the American Civil War.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Unova Route 8]]
| {{wp|Overpeck County Park}}
| {{wp|New Jersey}} ({{wp|Bergen County, New Jersey|Bergen County}})
| The aptly-named Challenger Road runs through the park, towards Flat Rock Brook and the Washington Bridge.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Tubeline Bridge]]
| {{wp|George Washington Bridge}}
| {{wp|Fort Lee, New Jersey|Fort Lee}} ({{wp|New Jersey}}) and {{wp|Washington Heights, Manhattan|Washington Heights}} ({{wp|New York}})
| The lower deck of the bridge was specifically designed to carry bus traffic and other mass transportation. It also resembles the {{wp|Forth Bridge}}, which is found in Scotland.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Unova Route 9]]
| {{wp|Harlem River Drive|Harlem River Drive Greenway}}
| {{wp|The Bronx}} ({{wp|New York}})
| Proposed in 2004 by the NYC DOT and implemented no later than April 2009, the paved bike lanes and sidewalks for pedestrian travel as well as the dense foliage this route passes by are considered attractive to local biking enthusiasts.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Shopping Mall Nine]]
| {{wp|Bronx Terminal Market}}
| {{wp|The Bronx}} ({{wp|New York}})
| Given the German motto, its location in Mott Haven (a known historical German and Irish immigrant community) makes sense.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Challenger's Cave]]
| {{wp|Inwood Hill Park}}
| {{wp|New York City}} ({{wp|Manhattan}})
| Though it is on the wrong side of the bridge, it features the 'Indian Caves,' which were discovered and excavated in 1890, revealing Lenape Native American artifacts as well as a 6-foot square, 4-foot high chamber. Supposedly, there is a larger chamber deeper within.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Opelucid City]]
| {{wp|Mott Haven}}
| {{wp|The Bronx}} ({{wp|New York}})
| Mott Haven is the oldest neighborhood in the Bronx, situated on a piece of land historically called Morrisania after the Morris family, who owned it for centuries. Many buildings in the neighborhood are extremely old, having been constructed in the 1700s to the 1800s. However, extensive redevelopment of the area beginning in 2002 (after years of intentional torchings by landlords who wanted to compensate financial losses in the decaying real estate of the area) revitalized the burnt, derelict remains of much of the neighborhood, transforming it into a modern and attractive place to live. This dichotomy may have inspired the city's changing appearance between games.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Unova Route 10]]
| {{wp|Throggs Neck}}
| {{wp|The Bronx}} ({{wp|New York}})
| The neighborhood was evacuated during the events of Hurricane Irene in 2011, and the two bridges leading towards Long Island out of the area (Whitestone Bridge and Throgs Neck Bridge) were both closed. Throggs Neck suffered some of the worst of the flooding in NYC during the storm, though it's unclear if any significant landslides occurred.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Victory Road (Black and White)]]
| {{wp|Manorhaven, New York}} or {{wp|Port Washington North, New York}}
| {{wp|Long Island}} ({{wp|New York}})
| Both neighborhoods were the site of historic sand mines on Cow Neck Peninsula in the 1900s, hence the current name of Sands Point. Visible cliffs can be seen on terrain maps at the edge of each neighborhood (though they are currently covered by trees) - this may have inspired the desert aesthetic of the area.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Pokémon League (Unova)|Pokémon League]]
| {{wp|Hempstead House}}
| {{wp|Nassau County, New York|Nassau County}} ({{wp|Long Island}}) or {{wp|New York City}} ({{wp|The Bronx}})
| The cupolas of the Pokémon League are reminiscent of those found on Hempstead House, and the green domed roof is visibly taken from the same feature on the nearby Castle Gould. It is unclear exactly where the Greek colonnade is taken from, although these are frequently found in the NYC area due to the Greek Revival architectural movement.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Unova Route 11]]
| {{wp|Robert F. Kennedy Bridge}}
| {{wp|Manhattan}} ({{wp|New York}})
| If we take the stream crossings visible in the Route literally, this would involve crossing once onto Randalls Island via the north section of RFK Bridge, crossing once back out via the Harlem River Lift Span, and then using Village Bridge to cross back onto Wards Island and further on.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Village Bridge]]
| {{wp|Robert F. Kennedy Bridge}} & {{wp|Randalls and Wards Islands|Wards Island bridge}}
| {{wp|New York City}} ({{wp|Manhattan}}, {{wp|Queens}} and {{wp|The Bronx}})
|It also resembles {{wp|Ponte Vecchio}} bridge in Italy. The 200-year-old bridge referenced was constructed on Wards Island in 1807 to encourage settlement as well as transport goods from their new cotton mill to Manhattan, following a hurricane in 1788 that was strong enough to destroy the western parts of the Battery (the park at the southern tip of Manhattan). This wooden bridge was destroyed by the Hurricane of 1821, and the island was abandoned for several decades thereafter. The Robert F. Kennedy Bridge was constructed beginning in 1929, and was completed in 1936 - geographically, it connects to Randalls and Wards Islands less than 1 km north of where the Wards Island bridge would have been located.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Unova Route 12]]
| {{wp|Astoria Park}}
| {{wp|Queens}} ({{wp|Long Island}})
| The park is on a relatively gentle slope, as referenced in the description for the Route.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Lacunosa Town]]
| {{wp|Flushing, Queens|Flushing}}
| {{wp|Queens}} ({{wp|Long Island}})
| Flushing is the fourth largest central business district in New York City, and has one of the most diverse range in demographics, which is reflected in its architecture. It is also known for its vibrant Chinese community, the largest such outside Asia at 30,000 residents that were born in China as of the mid-2010s. According to local residents, the nightlife in Flushing is more or less nonexistent past 8 P.M. - this may be referenced in the town's description, as compared with the thriving nightlife of other neighborhoods in the NYC metropolitan area.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Giant Chasm]]
| {{wp|Kissena Park}}
| {{wp|Queens}} ({{wp|Long Island}})
| Located in Flushing. In Chippewa language, Kissena means "cold place", a possible inspiration for Kyurem being placed here. This may also be based on a hypothesized meteor impact theory for a tsunami that may have occurred in the NYC area 2,300 years ago, in which an asteroid presumed to be at least 100 meters in diameter slammed into the Atlanic coast. There is also a 500-foot man-made tunnel under Kissena Park, which is locally known for its 'soda-straw' stalactites and may have inspired the cave within the Giant Chasm.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Unova Route 13]]
| {{wp|Jamaica Bay}}
| {{wp|Queens}} ({{wp|Long Island}})
| The island with tall grass in the center matches the Jamaica Bay Wildlife Refuge, and the other nearby islands match the general terrain.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Undella Town]]
| {{wp|Rockaway Beach, Queens}} and {{wp|Long Beach, New York}}
| {{wp|Queens}} ({{wp|Long Island}})
| Rockaway Beach is well-known for being an expensive, desirable neighborhood, although it was devastated by Hurricane Sandy in October 2012. The area appears in New York magazine's 2007 spring travel issue as a place for "Surfing" and to "scuba dive for sunken ships,” which fits Undella Bay extremely well. However, the nearby Long Beach is both vastly more expensive to live in (fitting the wealthy patronage of Undella Town) and is known for being a hotspot for summer for local youths and college students, who rent in the area for the quiet seaside atmosphere. As such, it is probably meant to be a mix of both.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Undella Bay]]
| {{wp|Rockaway Inlet}}
| {{wp|New York City}} ({{wp|Nassau County, New York|Nassau County}})
| Located just south of Jamaica Bay.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Abyssal Ruins]]
| {{wp|Jacob Riis Park}}
| {{wp|New York City}} ({{wp|Nassau County, New York|Nassau County}})
| Ignoring the obvious in-game references to the mythological Greek city-state of Atlantis, the local beach has the foundations of former World War II installations buried in the sand, possibly underwater depending on the tides and location. It may also be based on the geographically inaccurate Republic of Atlantis section at the relatively nearby Long Island Aquarium, which features many similar elements, or the Pavlopetri Ruins, an underwater ruined city in Greece. It may also reference the presumed tsunami that struck the New York City area 2,300 years ago - many islands in the area are known to disappear underwater or be reshaped after major storms.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Unova Route 14]]
| {{wp|Marine Park (Brooklyn park)|Marine Park}}
| {{wp|New York City}} ({{wp|Brooklyn}})
| The 'island' shape in the center is suggestive of Mau Mau Island, which bisects Shell Bank Creek.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Abundant Shrine]]
| {{wp|Washington Cemetery (Brooklyn)}}
| {{wp|New York City}} ({{wp|Brooklyn}})
| There are no major 'shrines' in the Brooklyn area that would geographically or visually fit. The natural setting could then imply a park or graveyard, and the only one near enough would be the Washington Cemetery, which features several notable Jewish graves and a nearby Jewish synagogue.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Black City]]
| {{wp|Long Island City}}
| {{wp|New York City}} ({{wp|Queens}})
| It houses multiple main headquarters of companies such as Eagle Electric, Wonton Foods, Amazon etc, in addition to having luxurious lofts, all of which is reflected in the corporate and commercial atmosphere of Black City. The reference to 'ongoing development' is likely to the resurgence in development in the area starting in 2010 after the housing crisis of 2006, which saw it outpace Los Angeles and most of NYC in terms of population growth.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Black Tower]]
| {{wp|Toyoko Inn|Toyoko Inn, Long Island City (cancelled)}}
| {{wp|New York City}} ({{wp|Queens}})
| Toyoko Inn, a Japanese hotel chain, planned to build a 35-story hotel within Long Island City, set to open in 2012 and located at 24-09 Jackson Ave. However, the project was never completed, and the land was sold to Tavros Capital and Charney Companies in 2022, where they plan to build a 55-story mixed-use tower featuring apartments, residential housing, office space, and retail space.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[White Forest]]
| {{wp|Queensbridge Houses}}
| {{wp|New York City}} ({{wp|Queens}})
|Geographically, it fits Queensbridge, the largest public housing project in North America. Queensbridge features dense foliage interspersed with the cheaply-constructed Y-shaped buildings.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[White Treehollow]]
| {{wp|Queensbridge Park}}
| {{wp|New York City}} ({{wp|Queens}})
| The park is a primary place of recreation for residents of Queensbridge. It is also possible that it takes elements from two of the largest parks in Queens: Alley Pond Park ([[White Treehollow]] resembles Queens Giant, the tallest and possibly oldest tulip poplar tree in New York, which has a hollow entrance) and Forest Park (a haven for native plants and wildlife in the midst of the city's sprawl).
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Unova Route 15]]
| {{wp|Long Island City|Dutch Kills Green}}
| {{wp|New York City}} ({{wp|Brooklyn}})
| There are no significant terrain elevation changes in the minute distance between either Long Island City or Queensbridge Houses and the Queensboro Bridge. The bike path entrances and exits to the bridge are known for sharp turns as well as sudden changes in slope (as much as 10 degrees according to a report about the west side exit), which may be what is being referenced here. Cars have also had problems with the relatively sudden turns at either end of the bridge, crashing into storefronts and other areas (usually while intoxicated). Dutch Kills Green is also known as the ‘gateway’ connecting the Queensboro Bridge with Long Island City, but has no slopes or ‘cliffs’ to speak of save for some slightly steeper paths on the walkways – and, given its forested appearance, it is as good a fit as any for the forested background of the Poke Transfer minigame. It was opened officially in 2012, but was likely in development since 2010. The steep cliffs may also refer to the park’s location in an underpass area. The [[Poké Transfer Lab]] being named a 'factory' in Japanese may refer to the millstones found within the park, originally part of a factory mill.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Marvelous Bridge]]
| {{wp|Queensboro Bridge}}
| {{wp|New York City}} ({{wp|Manhattan}} and {{wp|Queens}})
| Opened in 1909, the bridge is specially designed to carry dead loads exclusively through cantilever action and live loads as a continuous bridge, requiring advanced structural design, analysis and engineering.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Unova Route 16]]
| {{wp|Dag Hammarskjöld Plaza}}
| {{wp|New York City}} ({{wp|Manhattan}})
| Located near the United Nations Headquarters, this park is well-known for being a spot of 'leafy respite' for locals - possibly referenced in the route description.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Entralink]]
| {{wp|Central Park}}
| {{wp|New York City}} ({{wp|Manhattan}})
| The Entralink also draws inspiration from the {{wp|Tokyo Imperial Palace}}.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Liberty Garden]]
| {{wp|Liberty Island}}
| {{wp|New York City}} ({{wp|Manhattan}} exclave)
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Unity Tower]]
| {{wp|Ellis Island}}
| {{wp|New York City}} ({{wp|Manhattan}}) and {{wp|Jersey City}} ({{wp|New Jersey}})
| Ellis Island was formerly the busiest immigrant processing station in the United States. It also takes visual inspiration from the {{wp|Headquarters of the United Nations}} and {{wp|Empire State Building}}.
|- style="background:#fff"
|[[Anville Town]]
| {{wp|Morristown, New Jersey|Morristown}}
| {{wp|New Jersey}} ({{wp|Morris County, New Jersey|Morris County}})
| Morristown was designated in 1999 as of one of New Jersey's first five "transit villages". In 1999, Morristown changed its zoning code to designate the area around the train station as a "Transit Village Core" for mixed-use. Could be based on {{wp|Binghamton, New York|Binghamton}}, its roundhouse and turntable and is at the end of its rail line, but it's too far away.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Aspertia City]]
| {{wp|Plainfield, New Jersey|Plainfield}}
| {{wp|New Jersey}} ({{wp|Union County, New Jersey|Union County}})
| Mountains that offer views of the whole of Unova would limit this to the relatively far western areas near Watchung and South Mountain Reservations (the actual mountainous areas are west of Morristown, which we presume to be Anville Town – the farthest-west point of Unova) or the taller parts of Staten Island (Todt Hill and Wagner College). Given an altitude of about 170 meters (the higher points of the two reservations), the distance to the horizon would then be about 47 km (or 29 miles), which would indeed allow one to just barely see all of Unova (assuming no obstructed view) from such a vantage point. As such, the best fits given the location at the foothills of these ‘mountains’ and proximity to other landmarks would be near Washington Rock State Park, which is reputed for its views of the NYC skyline. The largest city near this park would then be Plainfield.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Unova Route 19]]
| {{wp|U.S. Route 22 in New Jersey|New Jersey Route 22}}
| {{wp|New Jersey}} ({{wp|Union County, New Jersey|Union County}})
| The eastern half approximately matches the map shape of the route, and is near to both the Watchung mountains (referenced in the route description) and several small bodies of water which could match the one seen in the Route itself.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Floccesy Town]]
| {{wp|Elizabeth, New Jersey|Elizabeth}}
| {{wp|New Jersey}} ({{wp|Union County, New Jersey|Union County}})
| Elizabeth has a notable clock tower affixed to the Central Railroad of New Jersey station within the city, which was built between 1839 and 1893, and has been closed and replaced by a nearby modern station since 1978. This station allowed for the economic development of Elizabeth, such as the birth of America's first industry (the Singer Sewing Machine Company) in the town. It was also where George Washington departed from towards Manhattan by boat for his 1789 inauguration as the first President of the United States.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Floccesy Ranch]]
| {{wp|Weequahic Park}}
| {{wp|New Jersey}} ({{wp|Essex County, New Jersey|Essex County}})
| Historically, sheep were imported to Weequahic Park. There are no other possible ranches for this location to be based on, as it is illegal to keep cattle or livestock within city limits in the area.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Unova Route 20]]
| {{wp|Kill Van Kull}}
| {{wp|New Jersey}} ({{wp|Bayonne, New Jersey}}) and {{wp|New York City}} ({{wp|Staten Island}})
| Obvious due to the lower, wider section (hosting the [[Cave of Being]] and the two bridges to the north (based on the {{wp|Newark Bay Bridge}} and {{wp|Upper Bay Bridge}}).
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Cave of Being]]
| {{wp|Shooters Island}}
| {{wp|New York City}} ({{wp|Staten Island}})
| Besides being an uninhabited wilderness of a small island, it's unclear what connections to Hokkaido (historically or otherwise) this might have. However, it is a perfect match geographically.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Virbank City]]
| {{wp|Jersey City, New Jersey|Jersey City}}
| {{wp|New Jersey}} ({{wp|Hudson County, New Jersey|Hudson County}})
| [[Virbank Complex]] bears some resemblance to the oil refineries and tanker area located along the {{wp|New Jersey Turnpike}}. Bergen and Hudson Counties are among those with the worst air quality in New Jersey, with Bergen County generally being the worst.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Pokéstar Studios]]
| {{wp|New Jersey City University|Department of Media Arts (NJCU)}}
| {{wp|New Jersey}} ({{wp|Hudson County, New Jersey|Hudson County}})
| Thematically, it is based of Hollywood in Los Angeles. While there are movie studios near Jersey City, the city has a history in the film industry that has (as of 2022) earned it the nickname “the Hollywood of the East Coast.” Before 2010, this included filming for Annie (2014), The Godfather (1972), Men in Black (1997), and others. This may also be a joke about Paramount Studios’ New York Street studios, which replicate NYC in California – here, Hollywood in California is replicated in NYC. The in-city New Jersey City University has been involved in this entertainment movement for decades, having established its Department of Media Arts in 1982.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Lentimas Town]]
| {{wp|Bushwick, Brooklyn|Bushwick}}
| {{wp|New York City}} ({{wp|Brooklyn}})
| The volcanic pottery in question likely refers to ‘volcanic glaze’ or ‘lava glaze,’ a pottery glazing technique and substance that gives the appearance of dried lava on a workpiece surface. Most volcanic glaze depends on the addition of 1-3% silicon carbide for a porous effect, and has been known since at least 2008 (per the Sankey Glaze Database). Given that the Japanese and English names both represent ‘mountains’ in some way, we would reasonably expect this to be in ‘mountainous’ terrain that is ‘south’ (west) of Flushing or Astoria, this essentially limits it to somewhere along Grand Central or Jackie Robinson Parkway, which (while not mountainous) is somewhat higher in elevation than the other locations in Nassau County on Long Island. Bushwick, Ridgewood, and East Williamsburg geographically match given proximity to the Strange House and contain several clay-based art studios – most are in Bushwick. Much like Boerum Hill, Bushwick has many former warehouses that have now converted into art studios and galleries, and is part of an area of Brooklyn that became known for ‘the five black arts’ – pottery, printing, oil refining, cast iron manufacturing, and glassmaking.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Reversal Mountain]]
| {{wp|Highland Park (Brooklyn)|Highland Park}}
| {{wp|New York City}} ({{wp|Queens}})
| Seemingly based loosely on the glacial Harbor Hill moraine central to western Long Island, which formed about 18,000 years ago during the Wisconsinian glaciation. Because it is a moraine (deposit of non-ice materials left over from a glacier melting while stationary), it has nothing to do with volcanic activity. The Montauk Point bluff located on Long Island reveals glacial till via erosion that looks remarkably similar to the general appearance of the area surrounding Lentimas Town and Reversal Mountain, and 450 million years ago, the area that would one day become Long Island was a chain of volcanic islands that collided with the North American plate – evidence of this can still be seen in the hardened bedrock of the area (as well as the relatively nearby Palisades, which are made of basalt). Reversal Mountain is also said to be the same kind of volcano as Stark Mountain (the original location of Heatran) – which, given its location somewhere on south Sakhalin (formerly Karafuto Prefecture, Japan), is then unlikely to be a volcano at all, much like the Harbor Hill moraine.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Strange House]]
| {{wp|Cemetery of the Evergreens}}
| {{wp|New York City}} ({{wp|Queens}})
| Hosts the Triangle Shirtwaist Unidentified Victim Memorial, commemorating the deaths of over a hundred female workers in 1911 at the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory in Manhattan after a fire left them trapped in the building. Some of the victims buried here, such as Dora Evans, were only identified in 2011, but most were young girls. The event was such a grisly reminder of the effects of poor safety standards that it continues to be referenced to this day, and received much attention leading up to and during its 100th anniversary.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Humilau City]]
| {{wp|Jones Beach Island}}
| {{wp|New York (state)|New York}} ({{wp|Nassau County, New York|Nassau County}}
| A notable historical feature of the barrier islands along Long Island's southern coast are the 'bay houses' - built on stilts and featuring boardwalks and docks, they have been disrupted by local construction and significant storms. While there are bay houses closer to Rockaway Beach (near Woodmere and Hewlett), the ones near Jones Island seem to fit the best geographically.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Unova Route 21]]
| {{wp|Reynolds Channel|Middle Bay, New York}}
| {{wp|New York (state)|New York}} ({{wp|Nassau County, New York|Nassau County}}
| The bay is interspersed with many islands.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Seaside Cave]]
| {{wp|Jones Beach State Park}}
| {{wp|New York (state)|New York}} ({{wp|Nassau County, New York|Nassau County}}
| While there are no caves in the area, there are tunnels leading to parking lots 3, 4, and 5 at Jones Beach State Park.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Marine Tube]]
| {{wp|Ocean Parkway (Long Island)|Ocean Parkway}}
| {{wp|Long Island}} ({{wp|Nassau County, New York|Nassau County}} and {{wp|Suffolk County, New York|Suffolk County}})
| While the New York City area has no underwater tunnels akin to Marine Tube, the closest comparison both geographically and thematically is Ocean Parkway, a beachside highway which is known by locals for its beautiful views of wildlife and the ocean. It may also be based on the New York Aquarium's shark tube, which was completed some time after 2009 but is too far south geographically (being on Coney Island).
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[N's Castle]]
| {{wp|The Cloisters}} and {{wp|Hempstead House}}
| {{wp|New York (state)|New York}} ({{wp|Manhattan}})
| Both buildings have a European medieval look to them, although only one is geographically accurate.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Unova Route 22]]
| {{wp|Alley Pond Park}}
| {{wp|New York City}} ({{wp|Queens}})
| The 'ups and downs' are likely referencing the Harbor Hill Moraine, which once again appears here. Alley Pond Park also has a boardwalk through marshy terrain, similar to the DeKorte Park.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Unova Route 23]]
| {{wp|Port Washington Branch|Port Washington Branch (Long Island Railroad)}}
| {{wp|New York City}} ({{wp|Queens}} and {{wp|Nassau County, New York|Nassau County}})
| The path follows two rivers from Leeds Pond much like the river seen on the Route itself, and leads from the Kissena Park ([[Giant Chasm]]) area to the Sands Point ([[Pokémon League (Unova)]] area.
|- style="background:#fff"
|}

====Kalos====
[[File:Pokémon to real world Kalos France.png|thumb|A comparison of Kalos to France.]]
[[Kalos]] is based on the northern half of {{wp|Metropolitan France}}.

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! style="background:#6AA9E4; width:15%; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Pokémon world
! style="background:#6AA9E4; width:25%" | Specific location
! style="background:#6AA9E4; width:20%" | Administrative region
! style="background:#6AA9E4; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Notes
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Vaniville Town]]
| {{wp|Moulins, Allier|Moulins}}
| {{wp|Auvergne-Rhône-Alpes}}
| Moulins had various old terraced houses; in Vaniville, the houses of the town are all terraced.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Kalos Route 1|Vaniville Pathway (Kalos Route 1)]]
| {{wp|Moulins, Allier|Moulins}}
| {{wp|Auvergne-Rhône-Alpes}}
| The historic district of Moulins features cobblestone roads, such as the one present on the Route.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Aquacorde Town]]
| {{wp|Nevers}}
| {{wp|Bourgogne-Franche-Comté}}
| The distinctive blue-slate roofing, the riverside location (which can only be the Loire) and sloped or terraced architecture seen in the in-game version can only indicate Nevers – though this is located on the north side of the Loire, rather than the expected south. The park in the center may be loosely based on the Parc Roger Sarengro.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Kalos Route 2| Avance Trail (Kalos Route 2)]]
| {{wp|fr:Sentier de grande randonnée 3|GR3 Loire river trail}}
| {{wp|Centre-Val de Loire}}
| Given that it’s to the east of a river (likely the Loire, considering Aquacorde’s location as Nevers), and connects to Santalune Forest (Forêt de Fontainebleau), the best fit is the GR3 Loire River trail, which follows the river for over 1,300 kilometers from its source to its estuary. This trail passes directly through Nevers, and starts heading east at Orléans (the closest possible connection to Fontainebleau). Most of the trail does not feature any significant elevation change, making it extremely accessible to hikers of all skill levels.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Santalune Forest]]
| {{wp|Forest of Fontainebleau}}
| {{wp|Île-de-France}}
| The most popular forest in the area would undoubtedly be the Forêt de Fontainebleau, which is a known tourist destination. It is famous worldwide for both being the world’s first nature reserve (created around 1853) and for inspiring multiple 19th-century artists, including the Impressionist movement.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Kalos Route 3| Ouvert Way (Kalos Route 3)]]
| {{wp|fr:Forêt de Fontainebleau|Mont Aigu trail (Forest of Fontainebleau)}}
| {{wp|Île-de-France}}
| It’s described as a ‘lush forest’ with ‘little rises,’ and would be situated between the Forest of Fontainebleau (Santalune Forest) and Fontainebleau itself (Santalune City). The portions of the forest nearer to the city (such as Mont Pierreux, Mont Aigu and Mont Fessas) feature elevated terrain and hiking trails, though they are not true mountains despite the names. Of these, Mont Aigu is perhaps the most popular such hiking trail.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Santalune City]]
| {{wp|Fontainebleau}}
| {{wp|Île-de-France}}
| Fontainebleau is situated within the Forest of Fontainebleau (obviously) and features many monuments (such as the Château de Fontainebleau, Jardin de Diane, and Le Romulus) that are divided by four paths into ‘cardinal’ directions with a central element – much like the central fountain of the city. Sandalwood trees (from which Santalune derives its name) are not native to the surrounding forest or city, but are reputed for their fragrant and distinctive scent – as such, a town surrounded by forested woodlands may have some similar smell. Its description as ‘a traditional city’ may indicate the many historic monuments and movements that originated in Fontainebleau.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Kalos Route 22|Détourner Way (Kalos Route 22)]]
| {{wp|Loing}}
| {{wp|Île-de-France}}
| Near Nemours, the Loing river splits and rejoins many times. This is directly between Fontainebleau (Santalune City) and Bibracte (Kalos' Victory Road), though it is far closer to Fontainebleau. Nearby racetracks that may have inspired the Rhyhorn race track visible on the Route may include the Circuit de l'Auxois Sud, the Dijon-Prenois, or the Magny-Cours Nevers circuits.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Kalos Route 4|Parterre Way (Kalos Route 4)]]
| {{wp|Seine-et-Marne}} and the gardens of the region
| {{wp|Île-de-France}}
| The aspect of the route is modeled after the impressive Parterre gardens of the {{wp|Palace of Fontainebleau}}, located in Fontainebleau in Seine-et-Marne. The region of Marne is famous for its palaces with parterres. The route can be based in the gardens of the palace of {{wp|Vaux-le-Vicomte}}, where the parterre are similarly in the sides of the garden.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Lumiose City]]
| {{wp|Paris}}<ref name=Honedge>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pG-q-WIYTs Pokémon X and Pokémon Y: Honedge Revealed!] (YouTube)</ref>
| {{wp|Île-de-France}}
| Paris is the capital and largest city of France. The streets of Lumiose City are based on Paris's Place de l'Étoile (lit. "square of the star", now known as the {{wp|Place Charles de Gaulle}}), in which there is the {{wp|Arc de Triomphe}}. The modern buildings that surround Lumiose City may be a reference to the buildings of {{wp|La Défense}}, the most important business district in France.
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| [[Kalos Route 5|Versant Road (Kalos Route 5)]]
| {{wp|Forest of Orléans}}
| {{wp|Centre-Val de Loire}}
| There are many skateparks in and near Orléans, which is between Blois (Camphrier Town) and Paris (Lumiose City). The ‘hilly path’ mentioned is probably in the Forêt d'Orléans, home to the Orléans Massif (the westernmost such massif in the area) and several hiking trails.
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| [[Camphrier Town]]
| {{wp|Blois}}
| {{wp|Centre-Val de Loire}}
| Given that it hosts a manor of ‘a noble family’ (Shabboneau Castle, once home to ‘a generous king’), and has a farming community, the best fit is Blois, home to the Château du Blois. It is also home to the 9,000-square-meter Jardin de Cocagne (Garden of Plenty), a cooperative farming initiative that has been active since 1993 under the Bio-Solidarity Association - this may be referenced by the locals generously gifting Berry Juice and farming Berries.
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| [[Shabboneau Castle]]
| {{wp|Château of Blois}}
| {{wp|Centre-Val de Loire}}
| Clearly based on the Château du Blois, former residence of King Louis XII. Known as the ‘Father of the People’ for his generosity in reducing the ''taille'' (a land tax on French peasantry) and refusal to impose absolute monarchy on the French populace (a rarity at the time), he was widely popular (mainly due to an explosion in propaganda at the time) and had no major scandals associated with him, dying without a male heir. The chateau itself fell into near-complete disrepair between 1638 and 1789 (the beginning of the French Revolution), and only began restoration in 1840 when it was designated as a historical landmark and could therefore request restoration funding from the state. Many of the statues, royal emblems and coats of arms had already been removed by this time.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Kalos Route 7|Rivière Walk (Kalos Route 7)]]
| {{wp|Loire Valley}}
| {{wp|Centre-Val de Loire}} and {{wp|Nouvelle-Aquitaine}}
| Nicknamed "The garden of France", La Loire is a natural and historic region in the center of France, famous for its agriculture industry of fruits, vegetables in flowers. The region is famous too for the renaissance castles built near the Loire and Cher rivers. All this is represented in the route 7 landscape with many colorful flowers, the berry orchard and the Battle Chateau built in the river.
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| [[Kalos Route 6|Palais Lane (Kalos Route 6)]]
| {{wp|fr:Avenue de Paris (Versailles)|Avenue de Paris}}
| {{wp|Île-de-France}}
| The main path to the Palace of Versailles that is lined with trees.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Parfum Palace]]
| {{wp|Palace of Versailles}}
| {{wp|Île-de-France}}
| The king who ordered the construction of the palace and who is mentioned several times, is a reference to {{wp|Louis XIV of France}}. The second floor and hallway of the Parfum Palace is based in the {{wp|Hall of Mirrors|Galerie des Glaces}}.
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| [[Battle Chateau]]
| {{wp|Château de Chenonceau}}
| {{wp|Centre-Val de Loire}}
| Nicknamed the ''castle of the ladies'', in reference to the noble women who financed its reconstruction and for the parties they held. This is referenced in the fact that [[Diantha]] is the top trainer in the chateau. The façade of the Battle Chateau is reminiscent of the high-ceiling, rounded towers of Chambord.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Connecting Cave]]
| {{wp|fr:Biard|Biard}}
| {{wp|Nouvelle-Aquitaine}}
| Given its alternate name of ‘Zubat Roost,’ one would expect bats in the area, which is true of places like Poitiers and Chauvigny, in between Blois and Saint-Nazaire. The nearby city of Chauvigny is known to have a bat cave, though it’s unclear where (Grotte de la Vallée-Cuchon and Grotte de Gioux are both viable candidates, the former’s entrances having been discovered in 2001 and 2007 and the latter has been occupied since the Neolithic period). Another alternative is the Grottes de la Norée, located near Poitiers and including an exhibit on the life of bats – given its much greater popularity and likely presence of bats, it is the best fit. It is also worth noting that the French word for ‘bat’ is chauve-souris or ‘bald mouse’ – while this sounds similar to Chauvigny, it’s unclear whether the two are related etymologically.
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| [[Kalos Route 8|Muraille Coast (Kalos Route 8)]]
| {{wp|La Plaine-sur-Mer}}
| {{wp|Nouvelle-Aquitaine}}
| Given the similar presence of cliffs and beaches as in Cyllage City, and its location between Cyllage (Saint-Nazaire) and Ambrette (La Rochelle), it is likely simply the coastline between them. The islands along the route could represent Belle-Île-en-Mer in the north and Île d’Yeu in the south, as they somewhat match the shapes. The ‘peninsula’ in the middle of the route could then represent Île de Noirmoutier or La Plaine-sur-Mer.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Ambrette Town]]
| {{wp|La Rochelle}}
| {{wp|Nouvelle-Aquitaine}}
| An aquarium lies in La Rochelle. The city is famous in France for the geologic deposits from the Jurassic, that constitute great part of the coast of the city.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Kalos Route 9|Spikes Passage (Kalos Route 9)]]
| {{wp|Nouvelle-Aquitaine|Monts de Ambazac}}
| {{wp|Nouvelle-Aquitaine}}
| Jouac (nearby the basis of Glittering Cave) is located near the northern edge of the Central Massif, a regional highland in France. The closest mountain range to Jouac itself is the Ambazac Mountains (Monts d’Ambazac), a few dozen kilometers south and featuring many trails which are described as ‘rocky chaos.’
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Glittering Cave]]
| {{wp|Uranium mining in France|Jouac-Le Bernardan uranium mine}}
| {{wp|Nouvelle-Aquitaine}}
| The presence of Luminous Moss (based on Schistostega pennata) fits France, as the moss is native there and has been found as far north as Pointe du Raz and as far south as the French Pyrenees, as well as places like Auvergne (which is roughly in the right location). [[Junichi Masuda]] said in an interview that they relied on the {{wp|Catacombs of Paris}}{{fact}} – likely referring to the long, winding passageways that are easy to get lost in. The fluorescent (phosphorescent?) green crystals in the lower levels of the cave have a structure that only matches quartz – this is known to happen, such as in places like the Johannes Mine in Göpfersgrün, Germany, as the color is thought to derive from uranium ions much like hyalite. Uranium deposits in France are generally limited to the Vendée, Limousin, and the Morvan regions – the former two of which correspond well to the location of Glittering Cave. The most well-known such mine would then be Jouac-Le Bernardan in the Limousin region, the last of France’s uranium mines which closed in 2001. A nearby museum (URÊKA) opened around late July in 2013, 25 kilometers from the mine, to showcase the history of uranium production in France, just months before the release of ''X'' and ''Y''. That the area is a former uranium mine is also showcased by the minecarts in the lower level.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Cyllage City]]
| {{wp|Saint-Nazaire}}
| {{wp|Pays de la Loire}}
| Saint-Nazaire has a major harbour and a long tradition of fishing and shipbuilding. It is both adjacent to the La Vélodyssée cycling route (a famous bike route that traverses the Atlantic Coast along several countries) and is the starting point for ‘La Loire à Vélo’ (Loire by Bike), another famous biking route that follows the Loire River. It also features both cliffs and beaches, much as with most of the Atlantic coastline in the area.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Kalos Route 10|Menhir Trail (Kalos Route 10)]]
| {{wp|Carnac stones}}<ref name=Honedge/>
| {{wp|Brittany (administrative region)|Brittany}}
| There are no more famous ''menhirs'' (standing stones) in France than the ones near Carnac, which features a wide variety of megalithic sites that also include ''tumuli'' (burial mounds, much as those found in Asuka in Japan), stone alignments (in rows, typically), and ''dolmens'' (stone tombs). Local legends surrounding the stones are that they are a legion of pagan soldiers that were in pursuit of Pope Cornelius or Roman soldiers in pursuit of Merlin, either of whom turned the entire legion to stones – aiming to explain why the stones are in such straight, regular rows. This may be referenced in the in-game story surrounding the [[Ultimate weapon|Ultimate Weapon]], where many Pokemon were sacrificed and ‘turned into’ Mega Stones and/or the ''menhirs'' that line Route 10.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Geosenge Town]]
| {{wp|Carnac}}
| {{wp|Brittany (administrative region)|Brittany}}
| Given that Menhir Trail is the Carnac Stones, it then follows that Geosenge is Carnac.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Kalos Route 11|Miroir Way (Kalos Route 11)]]
| {{wp|Parc naturel régional d'Armorique}}
| {{wp|Brittany (administrative region)|Brittany}}
| One of the notable but less well-known features of the peninsula of Brittany is the coastal village of Lostmarc’h, nearby which is a cliff in which thousands of sparkling amethyst and quartz stones are set in the cliff paths and walls. Amethyst and quartz have also been found elsewhere all over the peninsula, such as Mantallot, Île-Grande, Bégard, Guipavas, and Ploemeur. Lostmarc'h also features a nearby archaeological site and several menhir of quartzite (a metamorphic rock that originated as pure quartz sandstone).
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Reflection Cave]]
| {{wp|Huelgoat}}
| {{wp|Brittany (administrative region)|Brittany}}
| Brittany, especially the area of Huelgoat, is well-known for its (former) mineralogical diversity, including deposits of silver, lead, tin, gold, and others. The silver mine in particular inspired the name of the nearby River d’Argent. The actual reflective mineral responsible for the Reflection Cave’s appearance is likely a combination of ''galena'' – a common lead and silver-impurity ore featuring a highly reflective, regular surface; and ''quartz'' – a white to clear crystal that is found all over the world. Caves in the area would be Artus Cave (where King Arthur ostensibly hid treasure extracted from The Valley of No Return with Merlin’s help) or Devil’s Cave (which mythologically was host to fairies and sprites, and historically was host to brigands, robbers and other ne’er-do-wells – the name apparently comes from a French revolutionary who tricked pursuers with his shadow to make them think they had seen the devil). The various granite stones scattered about Huelgoat, said to have been thrown chaotically about from the sea by Gargantua after receiving buckwheat gruel instead of hospitality by the locals, are also known to have a high polish – this is mostly due to ‘onion-skin’ geological weathering. Reflection Cave may also be an allusion to the 1970 novel ''Crystal Cave'' by Mary Stewart, which features a globular crystal cave (likely meant to be a massive geode) lined with glass-like crystals and is mostly set in Brittany.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Shalour City]]
| {{wp|Saint-Malo}}
| {{wp|Brittany (administrative region)|Brittany}}
| In the animated series, the city has a walled aspect; Saint-Malo is known for its fortresses and for being walled.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Tower of Mastery]]
| {{wp|Mont Saint-Michel}}
| {{wp|Normandy}}
| A island-city in the coast, the summit of the island is crowned with a gothic abbey since the early Middle Ages. This matches with the Tower of Mastery being a solemn site related with Mega Evolution and the statue of Lucario, in reference to the statue of the angel Gabriel in the summit.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Azure Bay]]
| {{wp|Îles Saint-Marcouf}}
| {{wp|Normandy}}
|Geographically, it should be located east of Manche from the map location. While the islands present both in the route and on the map may indicate the Channel Islands, these are also depicted in their proper position west of Manche. As such, the islands are likely instead meant to represent the Saint-Marcouf Islands – a relatively diminutive pair by comparison, but geographically correctly located. Notably, the southern of the pair (L'île de Terre) is a nature reservation, mostly featuring cormorants and gulls and fitting with the patch of tall grass on one of the southern major islands, while the northern of the two (L'île du Large) features a fortress in the process of restoration by an external association. The islands also played a minor part in D-Day during World War II.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Sea Spirit's Den]]
| {{wp|Tatihou}}
| {{wp|Normandy}}
| Île Tatihou is both the northernmost French island east of the Cotentin peninsula and a known ornithological sanctuary, hosting several species such as the herring gull, great black-backed gull, common shelduck, little egret, eider, wigeon and yellow-legged gull, possibly explaining why all three of the Legendary birds can potentially be encountered here.
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| [[Kalos Route 12|Fourrage Road (Kalos Route 12)]]
| {{wp|Étretat}}
| {{wp|Normandy}}
| Many goat ranches in central and west Normandy offer public demonstrations of goat milking and use it to make cheese and dairy products, as shown in the depiction of Baa de Mer Ranch in the anime. Of these, the most well-known is Le Valaine, located just outside Étretat and open since at least October 2012 – however, this is east of Le Havre, requiring some backtracking.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Coumarine City]]
| {{wp|Le Havre}}
| {{wp|Normandy}}
| The city has a monorail and several trams, in addition, like the game, the coastal part is a large tourist area and the north is residential. It is also notable for being located along the mouth of the Seine river - the same one that passes through Paris.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Kalos Route 13|Lumiose Badlands (Kalos Route 13)]]
| {{wp|Dannemarie, Yvelines}}, {{wp|Stade Roland Garros}}
| {{wp|Île-de-France}}
| The only known source for red montmorillonite clay in the area is the Dannemarie quarry west and slightly south of Paris. However, it is not the source of the 'red clay' used in the Stade Roland Garros for the French Open (a world-famous tennis tournament, itself known as the Roland Garros), which is instead made from crushed red bricks that were deemed unsuitable for construction. The court has never actually contained any clay - it is instead a fine layer of brick dust over crushed limestone and a few other layers.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Kalos Power Plant]]
| {{wp|Crucey Solar Park}}
| {{wp|Centre-Val de Loire}}
| The plant takes energy from various sources, as quoted by the researchers inside – solar and geothermal are the two major ones. While there are no geothermal plants of note within France’s borders, the Crucey Solar Park is more or less exactly where the Kalos Power Plant would be. It began construction in 2009 and was officially commissioned in 2012, making it a recent topic of news in the development timeframe of ''X'' and ''Y''.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Kalos Route 14|Laverre Nature Trail (Kalos Route 14)]]
| {{wp|fr:Marais de Sacy|Marais de Sacy}}
| {{wp|Hauts-de-France}}
| The largest swamp marsh in the Oise department (directly between Paris and the northernmost regions of France), featuring over 1,000 hectares of wetlands and peatlands. It is known for birdwatching, as several bird species breed and winter here. It also features hiking trails through the marsh. The route also may take inspiration from the Hortillonnages d'Amiens, a series of wetlands created during the Gallo-Roman period.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Laverre City]]
| {{wp|Allouville-Bellefose}} and/or {{wp|Amiens}}
| {{wp|Normandy}} or {{wp|Hauts-de-France}}
| The only individual tree of France is ''Le chêne d'Allouville'' (otherwise known as ''Chêne chapelle'', or the ‘chapel oak,’ located in Allouville-Bellefose, a small village in northern France. The tree was struck by lightning at an age of approximately 500 years, hollowing out and burning part of its trunk, and two chapels (one at the base and one further up) were established inside. Geographically, Laverre could also be based on Amiens, which has won awards for rich wooded heritage and being one of the greenest French cities and was an important industrial city in the past. Allouville-Bellefose is also known for its manor houses, much like the Laverre Gym.
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| [[Kalos Route 15|Brun Way (Kalos Route 15)]]
| {{wp|Épernay}}
| {{wp|Grand Est}}
| ‘Brun’ means brown in French, and refers to the decaying leaves on the Route. Épernay and the larger Champagne-Ardenne region of France is famous for its autumnal hillscape views and views of the ripening grapes and colorful leaves of the vineyards during the fall season. Tourists from Paris (such as the ‘directionless youths of Lumiose City’) often go on day trips to the region to sample the champagne. The two rivers in the Route are likely the Meuse and possibly the Aisne rivers.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Lost Hotel]]
| {{wp|fr:Musée-hôtel Le Vergeur|Hôtel le Vergeur}}
| {{wp|Grand Est}}
| While it was not a hotel in the ''modern'' sense, the ruins of the Hotel de Vergeur fit both geographically and thematically. Bought in the late 1800’s by Hughes Krafft, it was an old town house that overlooked the market square of Reims, a traditional crowning site of French kings since the 1000’s AD. The city was reduced to rubble during the bombings of World War I, as the Germans were only briefly able to take the city in 1914 and, unable to recapture it, decided to level it instead. By 1918, most of the city had been reduced to rubble and ruins from the constant shelling. In the 1920’s, Krafft restored most of the townhome to its former glory, leaving a single wrecked section standing as a poignant glimpse of the devastation of the city in 1918. As the ruins of the city were torn down for reconstruction in the following years, Krafft searched the ruins for remnants of the city’s historic past, bringing them to the garden of the Hotel le Vergeur. Columns, arches, and entire facades were transported to the garden of ruins. For the interior of the hotel, artworks, fireplaces and entire libraries were salvaged. Following his death in 1935, the collection and hotel were left to the Societe des Amis du Vieux Reims. While Reims has rebuilt since, the Hotel de Vergeur is a permanent reminder of the city’s horrific past.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Kalos Route 16|Mélancolie Path (Kalos Route 16)]]
| {{wp|Marne (river)}}
| {{wp|Grand Est}} and {{wp|Île-de-France}}
| Fishing spots between Verzenay and Paris would be limited to the Marne, a river that comes into Paris from the northeast and joins the Seine in Paris’ southeast (perhaps referencing the vertically-flipped layout of Lumiose’s real-world inspirations). The Fédération de pêche de la Marne (Marne Fishing Foundation) is located southeast of Reims, but has fishing locations and affiliated clubs as far west as Dormans. The Route’s name likely derives from the First or Second Battle of the Marne, located near the very same river and featuring the French and British defense against the Germans who had invaded Belgium and were within 50 kilometers of Paris. While both battles ended in decisive Allied victory (with the second proving the turning point for the Allies’ advance and subsequent armistice with Germany), the sheer amount of casualties (500,000 for the First and around 300,000 for the Second) would be marked as one of the many tragedies of war. That it connects on the map directly to Dendeville Town (Verzenay) instead of to Route 15 (Épernay and the surrounding area) is likely a result of how geographically close the three areas are in the real world.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Dendemille Town]]
| {{wp|Verzenay}}
| {{wp|Grand Est}}
| Verzenay features the iconic Moulin de Verzenay, built atop the windswept Mont Rizan in the mountainous Montagne de Reims Regional Natural Park. Winters are long and very cold, and summers are generally partly cloudy in this area.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Frost Cavern]]
| {{wp|fr:Grotte de Nichet|Grotte de Nichet}}
| {{wp|Grand Est}}
| North of Verzenay and Reims, the only cave of note is the Grotte de Nichet, located in a region of the Ardennes that is surrounded by Belgium. The cave is a mere 400 meters from the France-Belgium border. The temperature is a relatively cold 9 oC (58 oF), and it has 20 rooms across 3 floors (much like Frost Cavern has three floors).
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Kalos Route 17|Mamoswine Road (Kalos Route 17)]]
| {{wp|Route des Crêtes}}
| {{wp|Grand Est}}
| Truly constant snowstorms would be limited to regions above the permanent snow line, which are universally alpine (mountainous) in nature. France has no areas above the permanent snow line that would be geographically close to this, but the Vosges are well-known for being of the snowiest regions in France in the winter. The Route des Crêtes (Route of the Ridges) is a famous scenic mountain road that connects Sainte-Marie-Aux-Mines to various locations in the mountains.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Anistar City]]
| {{wp|Strasbourg}}
| {{wp|Grand Est}}
| The sundial, composed of an unnamed pink gemstone, possibly refers to the Cathedral de Notre-Dame de Strasbourg. Composed of pink (sometimes reddish-brown) sandstone, its unusual mineral makeup changes color throughout the day, and it features a sundial on its south portal. The location on a waterfront is likely a reference to the River Ill, which splits to encircle the area around the cathedral. Visually, it also takes clear inspiration from the {{wp|Strasbourg astronomical clock}}, located inside the same cathedral.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Kalos Route 18|Vallée Étroite Way (Kalos Route 18)]]
| {{wp|Vosges and Jura coal mining basins|Vosges mining basins}}
| {{wp|Grand Est}}
| Geographically, the Vosges (specifically the Villé valley coal basin) have been mined for coal for over 400 years, extensively shaping the landscape. Most of the towns and roads in the area are along the valleys of the mountains, likely earning this Route its nickname.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Terminus Cave]]
| {{wp|Tunnel Maurice-Lemaire}}
| {{wp|Grand Est}}
| The only historically notable coal mines of the area are once again located near Ronchamp – south of both Tendon (Coumarine) and Strasbourg (Anistar). All were backfilled with shale and topped with concrete slabs after the area’s closure in 1958, and there are no deep pits remaining. This could also refer to the Tunnel Maurice-Lemaire, a massive 7-kilometer-long tunnel dug straight through the Vosges mountain range in 1937 originally for steam trains before being reconverted to a modern highway tunnel in 1976. It closed for safety upgrades during 2004-2008 after a fire in the faraway Mont Blanc Tunnel killed 39 people. In the nearby Sainte-Croix-Aux-Mines, which the tunnel leads to, coal mines operated until 1849.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Couriway Town]]
| {{wp|Tendon, Vosges}}
| {{wp|Grand Est}}
| The falls are likely meant to be the Grande Cascade de Tendon, the largest waterfall in the Vosges Mountains at 32 meters (105 feet) high. They are officially located in Tendon, a small town at the confluence of the Ruisseau de la Hutte and a nearby mountain tributary, amidst the valleys of the Vosges Mountains.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Kalos Route 19|Grande Vallée Way (Kalos Route 19)]]
| {{wp|fr:Réserve naturelle régionale de la tourbière de la Grande Pile|Réserve naturelle régionale de la Grande Pile}}
| {{wp|Grand Est}}
| Located just south of the Vosges Mountains in France, it's unclear whether there are any especially long wooden bridges in the region. It is known for boggy and elevated terrain.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Snowbelle City]]
| {{wp|Besançon}}
| {{wp|Bourgogne-Franche-Comté}}
| It features the Citadel, situated atop a hill much like Snowbelle City is. It is also located in one of the snowiest parts of France.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Kalos Route 19|Winding Woods (Kalos Route 20)]]
| {{wp|Forest of Chaux}}
| {{wp|Bourgogne-Franche-Comté}}
| The fifth-largest forest in France, it features a gridlike pattern of trails and roads directly through the forest that may confuse newcomers.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Pokémon Village]]
| {{wp|La Vieille-Loye}}
| {{wp|Bourgogne-Franche-Comté}}
| Almost completely surrounded by the Forêt de Chaux, this town has a relatively stable population of just 395 as of 2022.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Kalos Route 21|Dernière Way (Kalos Route 21)]]
| {{wp|A36 autoroute}}
| {{wp|Bourgogne-Franche-Comté}}
| The river crossing the route most resembles the Saône, which crosses the A36 between Besançon and Bibracte near Glanon.
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{kal|Victory Road|Victory Road}}
| {{wp|Bibracte|Mont Beuvray}}
| {{wp|Bourgogne-Franche-Comté}}
| Mont Beuvray is generally identified as ancient Bibracte, a fortified settlement. It used to be capital of the Aedui and one of the most important hillforts in Gaul. Nowadays, it is an archaeological park at the center of a protected forest, and features many ruins that are visible in the various sections of Victory Road.
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{kal|Pokémon League}} building
| {{wp|Dijon Cathedral}}
| {{wp|Bourgogne-Franche-Comté}}
| The visible radiant chapels around the apse, central spire and towering transepts can only make this a cathedral. Surprisingly, the Smash Bros. interpretation best helps us here, featuring a distinctive rose window (a circular stained-glass structure particular to Gothic cathedral architecture) flanked by several lancet windows (with the distinctive curved point atop).
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Kiloude City]]
| {{wp|Lyon}}
| {{wp|Auvergne-Rhône-Alpes}}
| Lyon is located in the south, connected via train to Paris like Lumiose and has an open air zoo and a plateau.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Battle Maison]]
| {{wp|fr:Château de Saint-Trys|Château de Saint-Trys}}
| {{wp|Auvergne-Rhône-Alpes}}
| The Château de Saint-Trys, north of Lyon, has a similar yellow external façade, and the Japanese name (''Battle House'') may be inspired by how much it resembles a modern house despite being built in the 1600’s. Parties hosted inside seem to feature the same colored lights visible inside the Battle Maison.
|}
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=====Lumiose City=====
[[File:Pokémon to real world Lumiose City Paris.png|thumb|A comparison of Lumiose City to Paris]]
[[Lumiose City]] is based on {{wp|Paris}}, the capital and largest city of France.<ref name=Honedge/>
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! style="background:#6AA9E4; width:15%; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Pokémon world
! style="background:#6AA9E4; width:25%" | Specific location
! style="background:#6AA9E4; width:20%" | Administrative district
! style="background:#6AA9E4; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Notes
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Prism Tower]]
| {{wp|Eiffel Tower}}<ref>(October 9, 2025). "[https://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-news/illuminating-lumiose-city Illuminating Lumiose City]." Pokemon.com</ref><ref name=PrismTowerMasuda>Masuda, Junichi (July 6, 2016). "[https://web.archive.org/web/20200805001446/https://lineblog.me/masudajunichi/archives/4768508.html Prism Tower]." Junichi Masuda Official Blog (LINE Blog). Archived August 5, 2020.</ref>
| {{wp|Champ de Mars}}, [[wikipedia:fr:Quartier du Gros-Caillou|Quartier du Gros-Caillou]], {{wp|7th arrondissement of Paris|7th arrondissement}}, {{wp|Paris}}
| Both Prism Tower and Eiffel Tower are lattice towers. The Eiffel Tower is the tallest structure in Paris and the most emblematic monument in all of France, being a symbol of modernity. The Prism Tower reflects this by being a modern building made of glass and the tallest structure in Lumiose City. The Prism Tower is stated to be about 1,000 feet (300 meters) tall, which matches the height of the Eiffel Tower at 330 meters.

According to [[Junichi Masuda]], he requested the designer of Prism Tower to design it with the imagery of fragrance bottles as an inspiration.<ref name=PrismTowerMasuda/>

The location of Prism Tower at the center of Lumiose City is reminiscent of the {{wp|Arc de Triomphe}}'s location at the center of Paris's {{wp|Place Charles de Gaulle}}.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Lumiose Museum]]
| {{wp|UNESCO Headquarters}}
| [[wikipedia:fr:Quartier de l'École-Militaire|Quartier de l'École-Militaire]], {{wp|7th arrondissement of Paris|7th arrondissement}}, {{wp|Paris}}
| Building shape roughly matches for the conference room, and the campus contains more than 500 works from various famous artists (including Picasso) that have been added over the years. The inside may also be based on {{wp|The Louvre}}.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Quasartico Inc.]] building
| {{wp|Tour First}} and/or {{wp|Tour Montparnasse}}
|
* Tour First: {{wp|Courbevoie}}, {{wp|Hauts-de-Seine}}
* Tour Montparnasse: [[wikipedia:fr:Quartier Necker|Quartier Necker]], {{wp|15th arrondissement of Paris|15th arrondissement}}, {{wp|Paris}}
| The Tour First is the tallest building in France, located in the {{wp|La Défense}} business district, 3 km west of Paris's city limits. It formerly housed the offices of Beacon Capital Partners, an American real estate investment company, mirroring Quasartico Inc. and their remodeling project of the city. Tour Montparnasse is the third-tallest building in France and the tallest building in Paris proper, and it is generally considered the ugliest building in the city.
|- style="background:#fff"
| Lumiose shopping gallery and [[Vernal Avenue|Boutique Couture]]
| {{wp|Galeries Lafayette|Galeries Lafayette Haussmann}}
| {{wp|Boulevard Haussmann}}, {{wp|9th arrondissement of Paris|9th arrondissement}}, {{wp|Paris}}
| Considered the most expensive clothing store in Paris, with many brand stores like Louis Vuitton and Coco Chanel. The building it is located on is characterized by its Haussmann architectural style, which may allude to the Lumiose City renovation project and its parallel to {{wp|Haussmann's renovation of Paris}}.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Lumiose Station]]
| {{wp|Gare du Nord}}
| [[wikipedia:fr:Rue de Maubeuge|112 Rue de Maubeuge]], {{wp|10th arrondissement of Paris|10th arrondissement}}, {{wp|Paris}}
| The Gare du Nord is the busiest train station in France and Europe, serving various lines that connect Paris to various cities in France (including {{wp|Lyon}}, the apparent inspiration for [[Kiloude City]] in southern Kalos) and abroad.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Gare de Lumiose]]
| {{wp|Gare de Lyon}} and {{wp|Gare d'Austerlitz}}
|
* De Lyon: [[wikipedia:fr:Place Louis-Armand|Place Louis-Armand]], {{wp|12th arrondissement of Paris|12th arrondissement}}, {{wp|Paris}}
* D'Austerlitz: [[wikipedia:fr:Quartier de la Salpêtrière|Quartier de la Salpêtrière]], {{wp|13th arrondissement of Paris|13th arrondissement}}, {{wp|Paris}}
| Both are major train stations located on the southeast of Paris. Gare d'Austerlitz is the closest match in terms of location as it is on the southern bank of the River Seine, matching the Gare de Lumiose being located to the south of Saison Canal. Gare de Lyon is the third-busiest train station in France and connects central Paris to the {{wp|Orly Airport}}.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Saison Canal]]
| River {{wp|Seine}}
| {{wp|Paris}} ("La traversée de Paris")
| The Seine is the second-longest river in France, part of which flows through Paris (known colloquially as "la traversée de Paris", lit. "the crossing of Paris").
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Dormez Bien Cemetery]]
| {{wp|Père Lachaise Cemetery}}
| [[wikipedia:fr:Quartier du Père-Lachaise|Quartier du Père-Lachaise]], {{wp|20th arrondissement of Paris|20th arrondissement}}, {{wp|Paris}}
| The largest cemetery in Paris and the first {{wp|garden cemetery}}.
|}
{{clear}}

====Alola====
[[File:Pokémon to real world Alola Hawaii.png|thumb|A comparison of Alola to Hawaii.]]
[[Alola]] is based on {{wp|Hawaii}},<ref name=alola>[http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/sun_moon/ Pokémon Sun and Moon Japanese official site]</ref> one of the states that is a part of the {{wp|United States}}.

{| style="background:#2E83D2; margin-left:10px; margin-bottom:10px; {{roundy}}; border:3px solid #81807A"
|-
! style="background:#6AA9E4; width:15%; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Pokémon world
! style="background:#6AA9E4; width:25%" | Specific location
! style="background:#6AA9E4; width:20%" | Island
! style="background:#6AA9E4; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Notes
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Melemele Island]]
| colspan="2" | {{wp|Oahu|Oʻahu}}
| Houses the state capital and the former monarchy of Hawaii. Its designated island color is yellow (''melemele'' in Hawaiian) and its designated island flower is the {{wp|Sida fallax|ʻilima}}.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Hau'oli City]] (Including Beachfront, Shopping District and Marina)
| {{wp|Honolulu|Honolulu}}
| {{wp|Oahu|Oʻahu}}
| The state capital and largest city of Hawaii, Hau'oli is mainly based in {{wp|Downtown Honolulu|Downtown Honolulu}}. The Hau'oli Beachfront is based in {{wp|Waikiki|Waikīkī}}, famous for it's eponymous beach and being the place where the tourist offices are located. The shopping district its' modeled after {{wp|Ala Moana Center|Ala Moana Center}}, the biggest shopping mall of Hawaii located in the zone of the same name, Ala Moana is a retail and shopping district located near the coast. The Marina is based in the {{wp|Ala Wai Harbor}}, the largest small boat and yacht harbor in Hawaii. The Tourist Bureau office in Hau'oli is based in {{wp|The Central Ala Moana}}, the tallest building in Hawaii.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Alola Route 1#Hau'oli Outskirts|Hau'oli Outskirts]]
| {{wp|Hawaii Route 72}}, {{wp|Interstate H-1}}, {{wp|Interstate H-3}}
| {{wp|Oahu|Oʻahu}}
| Given that it has connections to Kala’e Bay (Kaneohe Bay), Iki Town (Wahaiwa), Ten Carat Hill (Diamond Head), and Hau’oli City (Honolulu), the easternmost path (Hau’oli Outskirts) is almost certainly based on Rt. 72 and Interstate H1 on Oahu, with H1 even matching the southern portion extending east directly from Hau’oli (Honolulu). That the western path merges with the eastern near both Kala’e Bay (Kaneohe Bay) and Iki Town (Wahaiwa) would then indicate it is based on Interstate H3, the last possible connection to H1 (via H201) from the eastern side of Oahu that can lead to Wahaiwa.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Trainer's School]]
| {{wp|Taki Okumura|Chuo Gakuin}}
| {{wp|Oahu|Oʻahu}}
| Given the presence of the ghost girl and her appearance as a Preschooler who was studying language, the only reasonable fit is Chuo Gakuin, a now-destroyed Japanese language school that was bombed during the attack on Pearl Harbor. One of the few preschooler-aged casualties of the attack, Nancy Arakaki Misaki, was killed during the initial strike. The school was formerly located on the intersection of Nu'uanu Avenue and N Vineyard Boulevard. Geographically, the University of Honolulu is a better fit, but does not offer courses to children.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Iki Town]]
| {{wp|Wahiawa, Hawaii|Wahiawā}}
| {{wp|Oahu|Oʻahu}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Berry fields (Alola)|Berry fields]]
| Dole Plantation
| {{wp|Oahu|Oʻahu}}
| The largest currently operating pineapple plantation in the state.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Hau'oli Cemetery]]
| Nanakuli Homestead Cemetery
| {{wp|Oahu|Oʻahu}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Mahalo Trail]]
| ʻAiea Loop Trail
| {{wp|Oahu|Oʻahu}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Alola Route 2]]
| {{wp|Farrington Highway}}
| {{wp|Oahu|Oʻahu}}
| Connections here are to Big Wave Beach (Makaha Beach), Hau’oli City (Honolulu), Verdant Cavern (Kaneana Cave), the Berry Fields (Dole Plantation), and finally to Route 3. As such, the Harrington Highway is the best fit here for the main stretch, as it has direct connections to Makaha Beach, Honolulu (through H1), and Kaneana Cave.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Alola Route 3]]
| {{wp|Kamehameha Highway}}
| {{wp|Oahu|Oʻahu}}
| Connecting to Route 2 (Harrington Highway) and Route 1 (Interstate H3), the only fit is the northern and eastern section of Rt. 83 (Kamehameha Highway).
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Verdant Cavern]]
| Kaneana Cave (Makua Cave)
| {{wp|Oahu|Oʻahu}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Melemele Meadow]]
| Kaipapau Forest Reserve
| {{wp|Oahu|Oʻahu}}
| Could also be based on National Wildlife Refuge, which is dedicated to preserving and restoring populations of endangered honeycreepers, but it doesn't match geographically.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Ten Carat Hill]]
| {{wp|Diamond Head, Hawaii|Diamond Head (Lēʻahi)}}
| {{wp|Oahu|Oʻahu}}
| {{p|Necrozma}}'s appearance here in [[Pokémon Sun and Moon]] references the historical belief by western sailors that the calcite crystals near the mountain were diamonds.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Seaward Cave]]
| {{wp|Kualoa Ranch}}
| {{wp|Oahu|Oʻahu}}
| Given that it should lie directly between Melemele Meadow (Kaipapau Forest Reserve) and Kala’e Bay (Kaneohe Bay), the best fit would seem to be the caves near Kualoa Ranch, for which only anecdotal evidence exists (mentioned as the burial location for the bones of more than 400 chiefs). It is said to be home to night-watchers – the ghosts of dead chiefs and warriors, who proceed from these burial caves towards the sea (as in, Seaward).
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Kala'e Bay]]
| {{wp|Kāneʻohe Bay}}
| {{wp|Oahu|Oʻahu}}
| It both geographically fits and features the same small islands that the outer reaches of Kala’e Bay does.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Ruins of Conflict]]
| {{wp|Keaīwa Heiau State Recreation Area|Keaīwa Heiau}}, {{wp|Pu'u o Mahuka Heiau State Monument|Puʻu o Mahuka Heiau}}
| {{wp|Oahu|Oʻahu}}
| Pu'u o Mahuka Heiau is the largest {{wp|heiau}} on Oahu. It contains a luakini, a sacrificial altar meant to bring success during times of war. It could also be based on Keaiwa Heiau, located in the Keaīwa Heiau State Recreation Area just north of ‘Aiea Heights (and directly west-adjacent to Mahalo Trail’s IRL basis), as it is located much closer to Honolulu.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Melemele Sea]]
| Kaiwi Channel
| {{wp|Oahu|Oʻahu}}
| An ocean channel that separates Oahu from {{wp|Molokai|Molokaʻi}}.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Big Wave Beach]]
| {{wp|Makana Beach}}
| {{wp|Oahu|Oʻahu}}
| Generally speaking, Oahu’s north shore is well-known for big-wave surfing in the winter – however, this practice originated near Makana Beach, which is much geographically closer to where Big Wave Beach should be. The nearby motel would then be ‘The Hawaiian Princess,’ a well-known 3-star hotel.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Sandy Cave]]
| Mermaids Cave
| {{wp|Oahu|Oʻahu}}
| Mermaids Cave fits geographically, and is one of the two most famous caves on Oahu.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Akala Island]]
| colspan="2" | {{wp|Maui}}
| Its designated island color is pink (''ʻākala'' in Hawaiian). Unlike the other Hawai'ian islands, Akala is reoriented such that its north would be considered east on Maui.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Heahea City]]
| {{wp|Kahului, Hawaii|Kahului}}
| {{wp|Maui}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Brooklet Hill]]
| {{wp|Ke'anae, Hawaii|Ke'anae}}
| {{wp|Maui}}
| Based on Ke’anae, an unincorporated region of north Maui that features the iconic Road to Hana’s halfway point (as exemplified by the Halfway to Hana rest stop). Several streams (brooks) cross the road at this particular point of Maui. The use of small waterfalls and ponds in-game may also evoke Ching’s Pond, a feature within Ke’anae.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Pikachu Valley]]
| Central Valley, {{wp|Iao Valley|ʻIao Valley}}
| {{wp|Maui}}
| Possibly based on the central valley of Maui. This valley, consisting of the flat strip of land between the western and eastern volcanoes, does not have an official name – but was important enough to grant Maui’s nickname overall, ‘The Valley Isle.’ ‘Iao Valley, given its popularity, might be a better fit culturally – but does not fit geographically, being firmly located west of Kahului rather than east.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Heahea Beach]]
| Kahului Beach
| {{wp|Maui}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Alola Route 4]]
| {{wp|Hana Highway}}, Kaupakulua Road
| {{wp|Maui}}
| The major connection between Heahea City (Kahului) and Paniola Town (Makawao) is Route 36 and then Kaupakulua Road.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Paniola Town]]
| {{wp|Makawao, Hawaii|Makawao}}
| {{wp|Maui}}
| A community on Maui known to be dominated by agriculture and ranch lands.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Paniola Ranch]]
| Haleakala Ranch
| {{wp|Maui}}
| Largest ranch on Maui.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Alola Route 5]]
| {{wp|Hana Highway}}
| {{wp|Maui}}
| This route connects between Paniola Ranch (Haleakala Ranch), Brooklet Hill (Wailua), Lush Jungle (Hana Forest Reserve), and Route 8. As such, it is mostly based on the Hana Highway.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Alola Route 6]]
| {{wp|Hawaii Route 37}}
| {{wp|Maui}}
| Given the intersection between Alola Routes 5 and 6 is adjacent to Paniola Ranch, the only reasonable fit is the initial portion of Rt. 37. This is a much ‘straighter’ connection between Kahului and Makawao, fitting its nickname of ‘Straight Street,’ and it then passes through Makawao to connect directly to Hana Highway (Route 5).
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Royal Avenue]]
| {{wp|Pukalani, Hawaii|Pukalani}}, {{wp|Hawaii Route 37}}
| {{wp|Maui}}
| Geographically, the in-game area seems to be based on Hawaii Route 37. This can’t be connected to historical royalty of Maui (before or after King Kamehameha’s invasion and conquering of the island), as Kamehameha’s seat of power was on the island of Hawaii and the Maui royalty were located near Lahaina, on the west half of the island. The nearby Thrifty Megamart may be inspired by the Pukalani Superette, a 100-year-old family-owned grocery store run by Japanese immigrants since 1926, meaning Royal Avenue should be somewhere near Pukalani.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Alola Route 7]]
| Kamanawa Point
| {{wp|Maui}}
| That this is adjacent to Royal Avenue (Rt. 37) and the Wela Volcano Park (Haleakala National Park), as well as being situated along a coastline, indicates that it is meant to be somewhere around Kamanawa or Makaakini Points. In particular, Kamanawa has a small peninsula that roughly matches the rocky outcrop of Route 7.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Alola Route 8]]
| {{wp|Hana Highway|Hawaii Route 360}}
| {{wp|Maui}}
| The presence of a roadside motel, as well as the Fossil Restoration Center being based on the Garden of Eden Arboretum of Maui (a location that was filmed for ''Jurassic Park''), would clearly indicate this as being around Rt. 360.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Diglett's Tunnel]]
| {{wp|Hawaii Route 30|Olowalu Tunnel}}
| {{wp|Maui}}
| A long road tunnel that connects Lahaina to Wailuku. Located on Honoapi'ilani Highway. It could also be based on Olowalu Shaft, which is located close to Olowalu Tunnel.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Alola Route 9]]
| {{wp|Hawaii Route 30}}
| {{wp|Maui}}
| Adjacent to Diglett’s Tunnel (Olowalu Tunnel), Konikoni City (Lahaina), and Memorial Hill (Olowalu Petroglyphs), this then has to be Rt. 30.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Konikoni City]]
| {{wp|Lahaina, Hawaii|Lāhainā}}
| {{wp|Maui}}
| Lahaina is one of numerous locations of Hawaii where Chinese immigrants immigrated to work on local sugar cane plantations. Lahaina houses the only two Chinese Society Halls that exist and are maintained in Hawaii.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Hano Grand Resort]]
| {{wp|Grand Wailea Resort}}
| {{wp|Maui}}
| The most prominent hotel in the Wailea area.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Hano Beach]]
| Makena Beach
| {{wp|Maui}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Wela Volcano Park]]
| {{wp|Haleakalā_National_Park|Haleakalā National Park}}
| {{wp|Maui}}
| The tallest volcano on Maui and is currently inactive. Terrain is closer to {{wp|Kīlauea|Kīlauea}}.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Dividing Peak Tunnel]]
| {{wp|Haleakala Highway}}
| {{wp|Maui}}
| While it visually much more greatly resembles Pali Tunnel, it is geographically too far away to fit. Given the name, Haleakala Highway is the best fit, as it winds between the various peaks of Haleakala (‘dividing’ them) and connects Haleakala’s volcanic peaks with the city of Makawao and the Koolau Forest Reserve. The highway also features far too many switchbacks to deal with the inclined slopes – as such, Game Freak may have been expressing their desire to avoid dealing with this by simply building another tunnel through the area.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Lush Jungle]]
| {{wp|Hana, Hawaii|Hana Forest Reserve}}, Koolau Forest Reserve
| {{wp|Maui}}
| While Hana Forest Reserve is the largest tropical forest on Maui, Koolau Forest Reserve is a better fit geographically.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Memorial Hill]]
| Olowalu Petroglyphs
| {{wp|Maui}}
| While not a graveyard, the Olowalu Petroglyphs both geographically fit and are located nearly adjacent to the Awalua Cemetery. Olowalu was also the site of a massacre by an American ship in 1790.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Ruins of Life]]
| {{wp|Halekiʻi-Pihana Heiau State Monument}}
| {{wp|Maui}}
| The only heiau that is geographically close to this area would be the Halekiʻi-Pihanakalani Heiau State Monument – an overgrown, forgotten heiau whose parking is closed. The site was the royal court of Kahekili, Maui’s last ruling chief, and the birthplace of Keopuolani, wife of Kamehameha the Great. After his victory at the battle of ʻIao in 1790, Kamehameha marched to this site to worship his war god Ku, offering the last human sacrifice on Maui. While this would be technically possible to access from the southern roads of West Maui via Rt 30, most visitors would tend to pass through Kahului instead.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Ula'ula Island]]
| colspan="2" | {{wp|Hawaii (island)|Hawaii Island}}
| The largest island in the archipelago. Its designated island color is red (''ʻulaʻula'' in Hawaiian).
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Malie City]]
| {{wp|Hilo, Hawaii|Hilo}}
| {{wp|Hawaii (island)|Hawaii Island}}
| Largest settlement on Hawaii Island. Noted locally for its particularly rainy climate.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Malie Garden]]
| {{wp|Liliuokalani Park and Gardens|Liliuokalani Park and Gardens}}
| {{wp|Hawaii (island)|Hawaii Island}}
| Designed like an Edo-style Japanese garden, having numerous structures such as pagodas, {{wp|torii}} (traditional Japanese gate), and a Japanese teahouse.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Alola Route 10]]
| {{wp|Hawaii Route 200}}
| {{wp|Maui}}
| It is only accessible from Malie City (Hilo) by bus, and connects to Mt. Hokulani (Mauna Kea)’s main access road. This then must be Rt. 200 or Saddle Road.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Mount Hokulani]]
| {{wp|Mauna Loa}} & {{wp|Mauna Kea}}
| {{wp|Hawaii (island)|Hawaii Island}}
| Mauna Kea is the second highest peak in the world when measured from its base below sea level. Currently a dormant volcano. Mauna Loa is a the largest subaerial volcano in the world and it is still active.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Hokulani Observatory]]
| {{wp|Mauna Loa Observatory}} & {{wp|Mauna Kea Observatories}}
| {{wp|Hawaii (island)|Hawaii Island}}
| A number of {{wp|observatory|observatories}} are located on the summits of Mauna Loa & Mauna Kea due to its ideal conditions for atmospheric & astronomy research.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Alola Route 11]]
| {{wp|Hawaii Belt Road|Mamalahoa Highway}}
| {{wp|Maui}}
| This also connects to Malie City, as well as Route 12. Both Routes 11 and 12 appear to be based on Mamalahoa Highway.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Alola Route 12]]
| {{wp|Hawaii Belt Road|Mamalahoa Highway}}
| {{wp|Maui}}
| Given that this connects to Blush Mountain (Kilauea) and the Secluded Shore (Isaac Hale Beach Park), it then must also be Mamalahoa Highway.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Blush Mountain]]
| {{wp|Kīlauea|Kīlauea}}
| {{wp|Hawaii (island)|Hawaii Island}}
| A currently active volcano. A power plant in the {{wp|Puna, Hawaii|Puna}} district of Hawaii used the {{wp|Geothermal energy|geothermal}} vents from Kilauea to generate electricity until the 2018 eruptions caused its temporary shutdown.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Blush Mountain|Geothermal Power Plant]]
| {{wp|Puna Geothermal Venture}}
| {{wp|Hawaii (island)|Hawaii Island}}
| A geothermal energy power plant that was shut down shortly after the start of the May 2018 lower Puna eruption, and resumed power generation in November 2020.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Ula'ula Beach|Secluded Shore]]{{sup/7|SM}}/[[Ula'ula Beach]]{{sup/7|USUM}}
| Ahalanui Park - {{wp|Isaac Hale Beach Park}}
| {{wp|Hawaii (island)|Hawaii Island}}
| Both are black sand beaches. Ahalanui Park was destroyed by lava due to the 2018 volcanic eruption of Kīlauea.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Alola Route 13]]
| {{wp|Hawaii Belt Road|Mamalahoa Highway}}
| {{wp|Maui}}
| Connection between Route 12 (Mamalahoa Highway), Haina Desert (Ka’u Desert), and Tapu Village (Ocean View) would indicate the latter portion of Mamalahoa Highway.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Haina Desert]]
| {{wp|Kaʻū Desert|Kaʻū Desert}}
| {{wp|Hawaii (island)|Hawaii Island}}
| Although not a true desert, the sulfur dioxide from Kīlauea's sulfuric lava plumes creates enough acid rain that plant growth is severely inhibited.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Alola Route 14]]
| {{wp|Punaluʻu Beach}}
| {{wp|Maui}}
| The presence of a black sand beach must be Punalu’u Beach. That this is directly ‘below’ Tapu Village indicates only a small amount of geographic distortion (Punalu’u being actually to the east of Ocean View).
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Tapu Village]]
| {{wp|Hawaiian Ocean View, Hawaii|Hawaii Ocean View Estates}}
| {{wp|Hawaii (island)|Hawaii Island}}
| Many development projects in Hawaii, especially on the island of the same name, were met with fierce resistance from locals and ultimately failed. The Hawaii Ocean View Estates (or HOVE) were one such project built atop recent lava flows, and are now largely abandoned and overgrown, with a few tin houses and sparse government services. As of the 2000 census, over 25% of all people living in Ocean View were below the poverty line. Recently, two new shopping centers were added.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Alola Route 15]]
| {{wp|Kealakekua Bay}}
| {{wp|Maui}}
| That you ride on a Sharpedo here may be a reference to the many shark sightings (and comparatively few, but still present) shark attacks in Kealakekua Bay, a known snorkeling spot. In addition, the general shape of the Route matches that of the bay. Many of the small islets also appear to be reflected in the in-game route.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Lake of the Sunne]]/[[Lake of the Moone]]
| {{wp|Lake Waiau|Lake Waiau}}
| {{wp|Hawaii (island)|Hawaii Island}}
| The largest lake in Hawaii, located on Mauna Kea.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Alola Route 16]]
| {{wp|Hawaii Belt Road|Mamalahoa Highway}}
| {{wp|Maui}}
| Located just before Ula’ula Meadow (Puʻuhonua o Hōnaunau National Historical Park), this would once again indicate Mamalahoa Highway.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Ula'ula Meadow]]
| {{wp|Puʻuhonua o Hōnaunau National Historical Park}}
| {{wp|Hawaii (island)|Hawaii Island}}
|The most notable of many locations in Hawaii where people who broke Kapu could escape to. Such sites are difficult to enter and heavily protected, but once entered, a Kahuna on site could bless the individual, pardoning their crime. Many native plants, including red plumeria grow near the location.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Po Town]]
| {{wp|Hala'ula, Hawaii|Hawi}}
| {{wp|Hawaii (island)|Hawaii Island}}
| The presence of a large homestead house (the Shady House) and high amounts of local poverty would seem to indicate Hala’ula, which hosts the Bond Historic District (containing the Bond House, which appears similar) and has one of the highest poverty rates on the island of Hawaii, especially in those under 18 (22.3%) and 16.5% of families overall as of 2005-2009.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Alola Route 17]]
| {{wp|Hawaii Belt Road|Mamalahoa Highway}}, {{wp|Kohala Mountain Road|Hawaii Route 250}}
| {{wp|Maui}}
| As it connects to Po Town (Hala’ula), the only reasonable option is Rt. 250 as well as the near-final stretch of Mamalahoa Highway (near Waikoloa).
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Mount Lanakila]]
| {{wp|Mauna Loa|Mauna Loa}} & {{wp|Mauna Kea}}
| {{wp|Hawaii (island)|Hawaii Island}}
| Mauna Loa is the largest shield volcano on earth; it is currently active. Mauna Loa is one of two locations to annually have snow in Hawaii, the other being Mauna Kea.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Ruins of Abundance]]
| Waha'ula Heiau
| {{wp|Hawaii (island)|Hawaii Island}}
| The only heiau that was ever near the Ka’u Desert would be Waha’ula, which was buried by lava flows from the nearby Pu‘U ‘Ō‘Ō in 1997. It might also reference the Pu‘uloa Petroglyphs, but both this and Waha’ula are too close to the Puna coastline to fit the Ruins of Abundance. However, most heiau are located on the west (Kona) coast of Hawaii, rather than the east (Hilo) coast or central/interior land.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Poni Island]]
| colspan="2" | {{wp|Kauai|Kauaʻi}}
| Its designated island color is purple (''poni'' in Hawaiian).
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Seafolk Village]]
| {{wp|Waimea, Kauai County, Hawaii|Waimea}}
| {{wp|Kauai|Kauaʻi}}
|The site where the first British contact to the Hawaiian islands were made by {{wp|James Cook}} (Portugal had likely already been in contact before his voyages).
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Poni Wilds]]
| Kekaha Game Management Area
| {{wp|Kauai|Kauaʻi}}
| Given that it’s ‘the entrance to Poni Island’ and connects directly to Seafolk Village (Waimea), and has a coastal area (Poni Beach) for fishing, the area encompassed by Polihale State Park and Kekaha Beach Park is the only reasonable fit. This is then the Kekaha Game Management Area, a large wildlife conservation area between the two where public hunting is permitted.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Poni Beach]]
| {{wp|Polihale State Park}}, Kekaha Beach Park
| {{wp|Kauai|Kauaʻi}}
| Clearly based on both Polihale State Park and Kekaha Beach Park, which are both known for fishing, recreational activities, and calm waves.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Poni Breaker Coast]]
| Shipwreck Beach
| {{wp|Kauai|Kauaʻi}}
| While the terrain might be suggestive of a black sand beach, Kauai actually has none. Instead, the darker gray area is indicative of the lavarock found on the south coast. Near Poipu, Shipwreck Beach is notable for its large waves.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Ancient Poni Path]]
| {{wp|Koloa, Hawaii|Koloa}}, Waimea Canyon Drive
| {{wp|Kauai|Kauaʻi}}
| Koloa is known for Old Koloa Town, which preserves Koloa history and traditions. The only path that leads into the Waimea Canyon State Park is, naturally, Waimea Canyon Drive. Population gets more sparse the further in one goes, as with the rest of Kauai (which has settlements more or less only on the coast).
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Vast Poni Canyon]]
| {{wp|Waimea Canyon State Park|Waimea Canyon}}
| {{wp|Kauai|Kauaʻi}}
| Waimea Canyon, also known as ‘The Grand Canyon of the Pacific,’ is naturally the best choice here.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Altar of the Sunne]]/[[Altar of the Moone]]
| Kaulu Paoa and Kaulu-o-Laka
| {{wp|Kauai|Kauaʻi}}
| The only heiau on Kauai that are not part of the Wailua Complex (too far east) would be the pair Kaulu Paoa and Kaulu-o-Laka, located above Ke’e Beach on the north shore. These readily fit the location of the Altar, but are not accessible to the public, instead only viewed from Ke’e Beach below.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Poni Grove]]
| {{wp|Huleia National Wildlife Refuge}}
| {{wp|Kauai|Kauaʻi}}
| The shape of the eastern half of the route readily matches the shape of the north section of the Huleia National Wildlife Refuge. The nearby Tree Tunnel (a photogenic spot) may also have inspired this section.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Poni Plains]]
| {{wp|Wailua River State Park}}
| {{wp|Kauai|Kauaʻi}}
| The area around Wailua River State Park is noticeably flat compared to the rest of Kauai, encircled by mountains. Unfortunately, there is no name for the larger plains area.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Poni Coast]]
| Paliku Beach
| {{wp|Kauai|Kauaʻi}}
| Paliku Beach is known for its scenic waters and rugged terrain – but not for its swimming, given the strong currents that surge from October to May.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Poni Meadow]]
| {{wp|Wailua River State Park}}
| {{wp|Kauai|Kauaʻi}}
| The Wailua River area is well-known for winding around meadow terrain.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Resolution Cave]]
| Maniniholo Dry Cave or {{wp|Fern Grotto}}
| {{wp|Kauai|Kauaʻi}}
| Maniniholo Dry Cave was believed to once house a malicious spirit deep in the cave. Fern Grotto was a well-known wedding and tourist site until its closure in 2006 - when it re-opened in 2007, events could no longer be held within the grotto, but only from the scenic viewing deck.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Poni Gauntlet]]
| Anini Beach
| {{wp|Kauai|Kauaʻi}}
| Multiple river crossings on the northernmost main section of the island would seem to indicate somewhere near Anini Beach, which features three such crossings.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Battle Tree]]
| {{wp|Na ʻĀina Kai Botanical Gardens}}
| {{wp|Kauai|Kauaʻi}}
| The only ‘sacred’ war-related site on Kauai would be the Holoholoku Heiau, which is located in the Wailua River complex – too far southeast. Banyan trees are a notable feature of Kauai for their giant size and multiple trunks, but none of the larger ones are located on the north side of the island (the ones used in filming ''Jurassic Park'' were located in the south, near Poipu). The closest geographical fit would be the Na 'Aina Kai Botanical Gardens & Sculpture Park, which features a few such banyan trees among other things like bronze sculptures and other flora. Notably, it also contains a Japanese-style teahouse.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Ruins of Hope]]
| {{wp|Kāneiolouma Complex}}
| {{wp|Kauai|Kauaʻi}}
| The closest geographical fit would be the Kāneiʻolouma Heiau.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Exeggutor Island]]
| {{wp|Niihau|Niʻihau}} & {{wp|Kahoolawe|Kahoʻolawe}}
|
| Geographically located as Niʻihau to Kauaʻi, though the lack of human inhabitants is similar to Kahoʻolawe. Both require boats and special permission to travel to.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Aether Paradise]]
| {{wp|Papahānaumokuākea Marine National Monument}}, scrapped VLFP project
|
| Papahānaumokuākea Marine National Monument consists of all the islands located northwest of Niʻihau in the Hawaiian archipelago. It is a {{wp|U.S. National Monument}} and nature preserve dedicated to preserving and protecting numerous Hawaiʻi endemic endangered species. While there are no specific VLFS (Very Large Floating Structures) currently near the Hawaiian Islands, Hawaii has held an interest in utilizing a VLFP (Very Large Floating Platform) for some time (between at the very least 1973-2000) due to the potential for offshore mineral resource exports. Papers by Ludwig H. Seidl and Craig D. Macdonald envision a ‘Floating City’ of Hawaii, and the engineering and legality thereof. The first scale model, about 17 feet long, was built off the coast of Oahu in the 1970’s, taking $80,000 and multiple teams to construct, and promptly sank, causing much ridicule. Another model floating city was built in Kaneohe Bay in Oahu for the 1995 post-apocalyptic movie ''Waterworld'', which (while it also sank) added about $35 million to Hawaii’s economy at the time. It was scuttled in shallow waters off of Coconut Island (a small island off the coast of Hilo, Hawaii Island), where it presumably remains. Given the discussion and international interest in this project, it is possible that Aether Paradise is a vision of what it could have looked like had the Floating City succeeded.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Poké Pelago]]
| {{wp|Northwestern Hawaiian Islands}}
|
| Small, uninhabited islands and atolls northwest of the main eight Hawaiian islands. Many native endemic Hawaiian organisms inhabit these islands.
|}

====Galar====
[[File:Pokémon to real world Galar United Kingdom.png|thumb|A comparison of Galar to the United Kingdom and the Isle of Man.]]
[[Galar]] is based on the {{wp|United Kingdom}},<ref>[https://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-news/we-interview-junichi-masuda-and-shigeru-ohmori-about-pokemon-sword-and-pokemon-shield/ Interview with Junichi Masuda and Shigeru Ohmori on the official Pokémon website]</ref> with the region focusing heavily on the island of Great Britain, flipped upside-down as if being viewed from the north. The main region itself is based mostly on {{wp|England and Wales}}, while the [[Crown Tundra]] is based on {{wp|Scotland}}. The [[Isle of Armor]] is based on the {{wp|Isle of Man}}, which is a self-governing {{wp|Crown dependencies|crown dependency}} of the British Crown.<ref>[https://twitter.com/pokemonnewsuk/status/1216731889920368643 Tweet regarding Isle of Armor and Crown Tundra's inspiration]</ref><ref name=Brochure>[https://assets.pokemon.com/assets/cms2/pdf/video-game/sword-shield/Galar_Tour_Brochure_US.pdf Pokémon Sword and Pokémon Shield Galar Expedition Guide]</ref>

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! style="background:#6AA9E4; width:15%" | Country
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|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Postwick]]
| {{wp|Keswick, Cumbria|Keswick}}<ref name=Brochure /> {{wp|Windermere, Cumbria (town)|Windermere}}<ref>Shea, Brian (October 4, 2019). "[https://web.archive.org/web/20240416175406/https://www.gameinformer.com/gallery/2019/10/04/exclusive-pokemon-sword-and-shield-concept-art-gallery Exclusive Pokémon Sword And Shield Concept Art Gallery]." ''Game Informer'' (Archived on April 16, 2024.)</ref>
| {{wp|Cumbria}}
| {{wp|England}}
| Two of the most popular tourist sites in the Lake District, located close to {{wp|Derwentwater}} and to {{wp|Bowness-on-Windermere}} on the shores of {{wp|Lake Windermere}} respectively.
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{rt|1|Galar}}
| {{wp|Windermere|New Road}}/{{wp|Bowness-on-Windermere|Lake Road}}
| {{wp|Cumbria}}
| {{wp|England}}
| The main {{wp|link road}} between {{wp|Windermere}} and {{wp|Bowness-on-Windermere}}.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Wedgehurst]]
| {{wp|Bowness-on-Windermere}}<ref name=Brochure />
| {{wp|Cumbria}}
| {{wp|England}}
| Located on the shores of {{wp|Lake Windermere}}, it is one of the most popular tourist sites in the Lake District.
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{rt|2|Galar}}
| {{wp|Near and Far Sawrey}}
| {{wp|Cumbria}}
| {{wp|England}}
| Two villages that act as one tourist attraction because of {{wp|Hill Top Farm}}, the home of ''{{wp|The Tale of Peter Rabbit}}'' author {{wp|Beatrix Potter}}.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Slumbering Weald]]
| {{wp|Grizedale Forest}}
| {{wp|Cumbria}}
| {{wp|England}}
| A forest area located within the Lake District. It is famous for its magic- and poetry-themed statues. The altar dedicated to {{p|Zacian}} and {{p|Zamazenta}} is similar to the Forest Fugue sculpture.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Wild Area]]
| {{wp|Lake District National Park}}<ref name=Brochure />/{{wp|Peak District National Park}}
| {{wp|Cumbria}}/{{wp|Derbyshire}}
| {{wp|England}}
| Two of the most popular national parks in England. The {{wp|Lake District}}, the inspiration for the southern section of the Wild Area, is known for its mountains and inland lakes, whilst the Peak District, the inspiration for the northern section of the Wild Area, is known for its peaks and rolling hills.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Motostoke]]
| {{wp|Manchester}}<ref name=Brochure />
| {{wp|Greater Manchester}}
| {{wp|England}}
| The third-largest city in the United Kingdom, known for its industrial and railway past. The many structures were inspired from the {{wp|Castlefield}} area.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Motostoke Stadium]]
| {{wp|Manchester Town Hall}}
| {{wp|Greater Manchester}}
| {{wp|England}}
| A {{wp|Gothic Revival architecture|Victorian Neo-Gothic}} building situated within the city.
|- style="background:#fff"|- style="background:#fff"
| {{rt|3|Galar}}
| {{wp|Astley Green Colliery}}
| {{wp|Greater Manchester}}
| {{wp|England}}
| A former coal mine that is now a {{wp|Astley Green Colliery Museum|museum}}.
|- style="background:#fff"|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Galar Mine]]
| {{wp|North York Moors|North York Moors National Park}} {{wp|Standedge Tunnels}}
| {{wp|North Yorkshire}} {{wp|Greater Manchester}}/{{wp|West Yorkshire}}
| {{wp|England}}
| Geographically, it seems to be closer to be based of North York Moors, but aesthetically it looks similar to {{wp|Standedge Tunnels}}, a trans-{{wp|Pennines|Pennine}} route for both rail and canal.
|- style="background:#fff"|- style="background:#fff"
| {{rt|4|Galar}}
| {{wp|Yorkshire Wolds}}
| {{wp|East Riding of Yorkshire}}/{{wp|North Yorkshire}}
| {{wp|England}}
| Low-lying hills that are situated east from the city of York.
|- style="background:#fff"|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Turffield]]
| {{wp|Amesbury}}
| {{wp|Wiltshire}}
| {{wp|England}}
| Aesthetically, it was heavily inspired by {{wp|Amesbury}},<ref name=Brochure /> a town located nearby the prehistoric {{wp|Stonehenge}}. The fact that Turffield is situated within the standing stones was also inspired by {{wp|Avebury}}. The hill figure is a reference to the {{wp|Cerne Abbas Giant}}, located in Dorset, Wiltshire's neighbouring county.
|- style="background:#fff"|- style="background:#fff"
| {{rt|5|Galar}}
| {{wp|Ribblehead Viaduct}}
| {{wp|North Yorkshire}}
| {{wp|England}}
| A scenic railway viaduct that carries the {{wp|Settle-Carlisle Railway}} over the {{wp|River Ribble}}.
|- style="background:#fff"|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Hulbury]]
| {{wp|Liverpool}}
| {{wp|Merseyside}}
| {{wp|England}}
| A major seaport that is known for the {{wp|Royal Albert Dock, Liverpool|Albert Dock}} and {{wp|Liver Building}}. It is also the birthplace of {{wp|The Beatles}}. The houses built on a slope may have been inspired by {{wp|St Ives, Cornwall}}.
|- style="background:#fff"|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Galar Mine No. 2]]
| {{wp|Forest of Bowland}}
| {{wp|North Yorkshire}}
| {{wp|England}}
| From a geographical standpoint, it seems to be based on caves found in Forest of Bowland, such as Hell Hole, Whitewell Cave and Whitewell Pot. It is also located between Manchester and Liverpool, albeit much norther. It could've been inspired by {{wp|Mersey Tunnels}}, major tunnels that cross under the {{wp|River Mersey}}, but then it misses the mark of being located between real life Motostoke and Hulbury.
|- style="background:#fff"|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Motostoke Outskirts]]
| {{wp|Runcorn Railway Bridge}}
| {{wp|Cheshire}}
| {{wp|England}}
| A railway bridge that crosses the {{wp|River Mersey}} between {{wp|Runcorn}} and {{wp|Widnes}}. It is parallel to the {{wp|Silver Jubilee Bridge}}.
|- style="background:#fff"|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Hammerlocke]]
| {{wp|Birmingham}}
| {{wp|West Midlands (county)|West Midlands}}
| {{wp|England}}
| The second-largest city in the United Kingdom. It is known for its vast canal network, which gives it the nickname the {{wp|Venice of the North}}.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Hammerlocke Stadium]]
| {{wp|Warwick Castle}}
| {{wp|Warwickshire}}
| {{wp|England}}
| A medieval castle with over a thousand years of history.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Energy Plant]]
| {{wp|Joseph Chamberlain Memorial Clock Tower|Chamberlain Clock tower}} (Body) and {{wp|BT Tower (Birmingham)|BT Tower}} (summit)
| {{wp|West Midlands (county)|West Midlands}}
| {{wp|England}}
| Both are the tallest buildings in Birmingham and constitute heritage of the city.
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{rt|6|Galar}}
| {{wp|Cat and Fiddle Road}}
| {{wp|Cheshire}}/{{wp|Derbyshire}}
| {{wp|England}}
| A scenic and dangerous road in the United Kingdom that passes over the Peak District between {{wp|Macclesfield}} and {{wp|Buxton}}. The route is named after a pub located at its summit. The desert theme may also be based on {{wp|Dungeness (headland)|Dungeness}}, which is known to be the only desert in the United Kingdom.
|- style="background:#fff"|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Stow-on-Side]]
| {{wp|Buxton}}/{{wp|Matlock Bath}}
| {{wp|Derbyshire}}
| {{wp|England}}
| A spa town that is described as "''The Gateway to the {{wp|Peak District National Park}}''". It is home to {{wp|Poole's Cavern}} and is also known for its spring water. Its name, as well as its potteries, may have been a reference to {{wp|Stoke-on-Trent}}. Matlock Bath is another town described as the gateway of the Peak District, the town is famous for its thermal lake (the same that surround the Gym), and the parade street, a main street filled with shops and entertainment places, just like the shops of Stow-on-Side.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Glimwood Tangle]]
| {{wp|Sherwood Forest}}<ref name=Brochure />
| {{wp|Nottinghamshire}}
| {{wp|England}}
| A well-known forest in the East Midlands that is said to be the home to the famous folklore character, {{wp|Robin Hood}}.
|- style="background:#fff"|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Ballonlea]]
| {{wp|Nottingham}} or {{wp|Stratford-Upon-Avon}}
| {{wp|Nottinghamshire}} or {{wp|Warwickshire}}
| {{wp|England}}
| Nottingham fits due to being surrounded by Sherwood Forest in the north, much like Ballonlea is surrounded by Glimwood Tangle. {{wp|Stratford-Upon-Avon}} is a heavy aesthetical inspiration, due to Tudor architecture and being a birthplace of {{wp|William Shakespeare}}, who wrote many plays including the one about fairies — ''{{wp|A Midsummer Night's Dream}}''. Another possible inspiration is a more geographically correct {{wp|Lavenham}}, a village famous for its legends about witches and was used for filming ''{{wp|Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows - Part 1}}''.
|- style="background:#fff"|- style="background:#fff"
| {{rt|7|Galar}}
| {{wp|Severn Tunnel}}
| {{wp|Gloucestershire}}/{{wp|Monmouthshire}}
| {{wp|England}}/{{wp|Wales}}
| A railway tunnel that goes under the {{wp|Severn Estuary}}.
|- style="background:#fff"|- style="background:#fff"
| {{rt|8|Galar}}
| {{wp|Shropshire}}
| {{wp|Shropshire}}
| {{wp|England}}
| Known for The Ironbridge Gorge area, a UNESCO World Heritage Site which was formed by glacial overflow during last ice age. [https://www.english-heritage.org.uk/visit/places/wroxeter-roman-city/ Wroxeter Roman City] may have inspired the ruins on Route 8. Not only do the ruins resemble Roman architecture. Additionally the Pokémon Falinks, which takes inspiration from the Roman legion, can only be found here (apart from the wild area).
|- style="background:#fff"|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Circhester]]
| {{wp|Bath, Somerset|Bath}}<ref name=Brochure />
| {{wp|Somerset}}
| {{wp|England}}
| A Roman spa city famous for its Georgian style buildings, geothermal hot springs, and the rows of houses such as the {{wp|Circus (Bath)|Circus}} and {{wp|Royal Crescent}}.
|- style="background:#fff"|- style="background:#fff"
| {{rt|9|Galar}}
| {{wp|Cardigan Bay}}
| [[wp:Ceredigion|Ceredigion]]/{{wp|Gwynedd}}
| {{wp|Wales}}
| A large inlet in the {{wp|Irish Sea}} that makes up most of Wales' coastline.
|- style="background:#fff"|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Spikemuth]]
| {{wp|Llandudno}}
| {{wp|Clwyd}}
| {{wp|Wales}}
| Llandudno is a seaside town resort, located on Creuddyn Peninsula, much like Spikemuth is located on its own peninsula. Could also be inspired by {{wp|Rhyl}}, as it is ranked as one of the UK's worst seaside resorts, but that title was only given long after the release of "Pokémon Sword & Shield".
|- style="background:#fff"|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Route 9 Tunnel]]
| {{wp|A55 road|Conwy Tunnel}}
| {{wp|Clwyd}}
| {{wp|Wales}}
| An underwater road tunnel that goes under the {{wp|River Conwy}}.
|- style="background:#fff"|- style="background:#fff"
| {{rt|10|Galar}}
| {{wp|Snowdonia|Snowdonia/Eryri}} and {{wp|Chiltern Hills}}
| {{wp|Clwyd}}/{{wp|Gwynedd}}/{{wp|Hertfordshire}}
| {{wp|Wales}}
| A mountain range in Wales and National Park, with its highest mountain being {{wp|Yr Wyddfa}}. Chiltern is a hill escarpment in the north of London.
|- style="background:#fff"|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Wyndon]]
| {{wp|London}}<ref name=Brochure />
| {{wp|Greater London}}
| {{wp|England}}
| The largest city and the capital of the United Kingdom. Home to {{wp|Big Ben}}, {{wp|Palace of Westminster}}, the {{wp|London Eye}}, and {{wp|Piccadilly Circus}}.
|- style="background:#fff"
| Rose of the Rondelands
| {{wp|Palace of Westminster}}/{{wp|Big Ben}}
| {{wp|Greater London}}
| {{wp|England}}
| While not a hotel, it is a popular tourist destination due to its neo-Gothic looking clock tower, which inspired the Rose of the Rondelands' own clock tower. The hotel facility may be inspired by the {{wp|County Hall, London|London County Hall}}, a former government building now used by two hotels. It is located on the other side of the River Thames, facing the Palace of Westminster.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Wyndon Stadium]]
| {{wp|Wembley Stadium}}
| {{wp|Greater London}}
| {{wp|England}}
| The largest and most important stadium in the British Isles.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Rose Tower]]/{{gal|Battle Tower}}
| {{wp|ArcelorMittal Orbit}}/{{wp|The Shard}}
| {{wp|Greater London}}
| {{wp|England}}
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" | The {{wp|ArcelorMittal Orbit}} was built for the {{wp|2012 Olympic Games}} and is now a slide attraction. The Shard is the tallest building in the {{wp|United Kingdom}}.
|}

=====Isle of Armor=====
The Isle of Man is a {{wp|Crown dependencies|crown dependency}} of the {{wp|United Kingdom}} in the middle of the {{wp|Irish Sea}}. It is one of the six {{wp|Celtic Nations}} along with {{wp|Ireland}}, {{wp|Scotland}}, {{wp|Wales}}, {{wp|Cornwall}}, and {{wp|Brittany}}. The island has its unique language (known as {{wp|Manx Gaelic}}) and culture, with myths and legends that derive from {{wp|Celtic mythology}}. It is also world-famous for its {{wp|Manx Grand Prix}}.
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|- style="background:#fff"|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Loop Lagoon]]
| {{wp|Ramsey Bay}}
| {{wp|Ramsey, Isle of Man|Ramsey}}
| {{wp|Ayre}}
| A bay that was designated as a {{wp|UNESCO}} {{wp|Man and the Biosphere Programme}} (MAB) biosphere reserve.
|- style="background:#fff"|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Workout Sea]]
| Smeale Beach
| {{wp|Andreas (parish)|Andreas}}
| Ayre
| A coastal area that is designated as a {{wp|dark-sky preserve}}.
|- style="background:#fff"|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Master Dojo]]
| Jurby airfield
| {{wp|Jurby}}
| {{wp|Michael, Isle of Man|Michael}}
| Land formerly used by {{wp|RAF Jurby}} as training ground. Following the closure of the station in 1973, the area has been used for air shows, gliding, and private aviation. The station complex is converted into an industrial park and houses several tourist attractions, including the {{wp|Jurby Transport Museum}} and the Isle of Man Motor Museum.
|- style="background:#fff"|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Soothing Wetlands]]
| {{wp|Sulby Glen}} and {{wp|Curraghs|Ballaugh Curraghs}}
| {{wp|Lezayre}} and {{wp|Ballaugh (parish)|Ballaugh}}
| Ayre and Michael
| The largest water reservoir on the Isle of Man is located in the Sulby valley. The Curraghs is a {{wp|Ramsar Convention|Ramsar}} wetland on the northwest of the island.
|- style="background:#fff"|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Challenge Beach]]
| {{wp|Douglas, Isle of Man|Douglas}}
| {{wp|Douglas Borough Council}}
| {{wp|Middle (sheading)|Middle}}
| The capital of the Isle of Man, which is home to many railways such as the {{wp|Douglas Bay Horse Tram}}, the {{wp|Isle of Man Railway}}, and the {{wp|Snaefell Mountain Railway}}. It is the only ferry port on the island that connects to {{wp|Great Britain|the mainland}} and {{wp|Ireland}}.
|- style="background:#fff"|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Tower of Waters]]
| {{wp|Tower of Refuge}}
| Douglas Borough Council
| Middle
| A shelter to wrecked mariners build on {{wp|St Mary's Isle}} (also known as Conister Rock) in the Douglas Bay in 1832, it becomes the landmark of Douglas. Visit to the tower is restricted due to the fragility of the Conister Rock, which is a tidal reef that reamins partially submerged expect for spring tides.
|- style="background:#fff"|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Challenge Road]]
| {{wp|Peel, Isle of Man|Peel}}
| {{wp|German (parish)|German}}
| {{wp|Glenfaba}}
| A seaside town that is home to the replica of the {{wp|Odin's Raven}} {{wp|Gokstad ship|Longboat}} in the {{wp|House of Manannan}} Museum; and {{wp|Peel Castle}}. Its location up on the highest mountain of the Isle of Armor may also be a reference to {{wp|Snaefell}}, the highest mountain on the Isle of Man.
|- style="background:#fff"|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Tower of Darkness]]
| {{wp|Peel Castle}}
| German
| Glenfaba
| Peel Castle is a Viking castle built on the remnants of earlier Celtic monasteries with a notable{{wp|Irish round tower|round tower}} in the ruins of the Cathedral of St. German. The site is believed to be one of the possible locations of {{wp|Avalon}} in the {{wp|Matter of Britain|Arthurian legends}}, which may inspire the plot of Isle of Armor and the special role of the Tower of Darkness towards the endgame. Peel castle is said to be haunted by a {{wp|Black Dog (ghost)|Black Dog}} called {{wp|Moddey Dhoo}} in Manx Gaelic. The presence of [[Wanderer|wandering]] {{p|Zorua}} and {{p|Zoroark}} in the Isle of Armor on cloudy days could be a reference to this folklore.
|- style="background:#fff"|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Forest of Focus]]
| {{wp|Fairy Bridge (Isle of Man)|Fairy Bridge}}
| {{wp|Santon}} and {{wp|Malew}}
| {{wp|Middle (sheading)|Middle}} and {{wp|Rushen (sheading)|Rushen}}
| A famous parish boundary bridge where fairies named {{wp|Mooinjer veggey}} (Manx Gaelic for 'little people') are said to dwell. People would say "Hello Fairies" when they cross and often leave wishes and notes beside the tree for good luck. Benevolent fairies are said to only appear in front of those they wish to see, and reward them with cure or blessing. The {{p|Lilligant}} that appears before the player character and [[Hop]] may be partly inspired by the story of fairies.
|- style="background:#fff"|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Training Lowlands]]
| {{wp|Castletown, Isle of Man|Castletown}} and Glen Rushen
| Malew and Rushen
| Rushen
| Castletown was the former capital of the Isle of Man before 1869. The {{wp|Isle of Man Airport}} is located in the suburb of the town. The hinterlands of Training Lowlands may be based on the Rushen Valley, which is a popular destination for hiking and camping.
|- style="background:#fff"|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Honeycalm Island]]
| {{wp|Calf of Man}}
| Rushen
| Rushen
| A small islet located off the south coast.
|- style="background:#fff"|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Honeycalm Sea]]
| {{wp|Calf Sound}}
|
|
| A body of water with various islets, which separate the Calf of Man.
|- style="background:#fff"|- style="background:#fff"
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybl|5px}}" | [[Stepping-Stone Sea]] and [[Insular Sea]]
| {{wp|Irish Sea}}
|
|
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" | Water bodies surrounding the Isle of Man was known for hazardous navigation before the age of {{wp|steamboat}}s. In modern days, the waters become ideal for viewing birds, sea mammals (particularly {{wp|harbor seal|common seals}} and {{wp|grey seal}}s), and {{wp|Basking shark}}s. The widespread presence of [[Galarian form|Galarian]] {{p|Slowpoke}} ashore and {{p|Sharpedo}} at sea around the Isle of Armor echoes with the real-life ecology of the Isle of Man.
|}

=====Crown Tundra=====
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|- style="background:#fff"|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Crown Tundra]]
| {{wp|Scottish Highlands}}
|
| {{wp|Scotland}}
| A vast mountain range in the northern parts of Scotland, home to the famous {{wp|Loch Ness}} and {{wp|Ben Nevis}}, the highest mountain in the island of {{wp|Great Britain}}.
|- style="background:#fff"|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Slippery Slope]]
| {{wp|Dinnet}}
| {{wp|Aberdeenshire}}
| {{wp|Scotland}}
| Known to be the 'gateway to the Highlands' as well as the Cairngorms National Park. It used to have a railway station which still stands today, despite not being in use anymore.
|- style="background:#fff"|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Max Lair]]
| {{wp|Burn O'Vat}}
| {{wp|Aberdeenshire}}
| {{wp|Scotland}}
| Located near Dinnet, this giant bowl shaped pothole was formed via erosion from melted glacial ice. It can be entered though a narrow opening and is often filled with water, presenting an impression of a hidden den. Local legend states a notorious outlaw hid here once, long ago.
|- style="background:#fff"|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Freezington]]
| {{wp|Ballater}}
| {{wp|Aberdeenshire}}
| {{wp|Scotland}}
| Ballater is a small town, famous for its connection with the royal family, as it has certified shops for the nobility, which supply the royal family when they are on vacation in the area. The town also has a train station. All this is related to the adoration of the inhabitants towards Calyrex.
|- style="background:#fff"|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Frostpoint Field]]
| {{wp|Lomond Hills}}
| {{wp|Fife}}
| {{wp|Scotland}}
| This location features rocky terrain, despite being called a field, and so might be an invocation of this regional park. Rounded hills and mounds here called 'paps' are volcanic in origin and breast shaped, and can be found amongst ruins dating back to the Iron Age.
|- style="background:#fff"|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Path to the Peak]]
| {{wp|Ben Nevis}} and {{wp|Schiehallion}}
| {{wp|Grampian Mountains}}/{{wp|Breadalbane, Scotland|Breadalbane}}
| {{wp|Scotland}}
| The tallest mountain in Scotland and tallest of the British Isles. Schiehallion is a mountain that its close to the geographic center of Scotland and has suffered from erosion by mountaineers, this is reflected in the mountain's location in the tundra and the path to the Crown Shrine.
|- style="background:#fff"|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Crown Shrine]]
| {{wp|Edinburgh Castle}}<ref name=Brochure />
| {{wp|Edinburgh}}
| {{wp|Scotland}}
| An immense medieval castle that was home to kings of Scotland in the past, which is referred to by Calyrex being once worshiped in the Crown Shrine.
|- style="background:#fff"|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Frigid Sea]]
| {{wp|Firth of Clyde}}
|
| {{wp|Scotland}}
| The largest island in the Frigid Sea may be based on the {{wp|Isle of Arran}}.
|- style="background:#fff"|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Three-Point Pass]]
| {{wp|Callanish Stones}}
| {{wp|Outer Hebrides}}
| {{wp|Scotland}}
| A ring of standing stones near the coast of Scotland, according to legend, a being of light known as the shining one, appears on the summer solstice, this in reference to the Dragapult and the Electivire of the game.
|- style="background:#fff"|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Roaring-Sea Caves]]
| {{wp|Fingal's Cave}}
| {{wp|Staffa}}, {{wp|Inner Hebrides}}
| {{wp|Scotland}}
| A coastal cave famous for its basalt columns and the resonant acoustics inside.
|- style="background:#fff"|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Old Cemetery]]
| {{wp|Crosbie Castle and the Fullarton estate}}
| {{wp|Troon}}, {{wp|South Ayrshire}}
| {{wp|Scotland}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Giant's Bed]]
| {{wp|Croft Moraig Stone Circle}}
| {{wp|Perth and Kinross}}
| {{wp|Scotland}}
| A stone circle that is a protected monument. The rocks of the Giant's bed had the same layout of the Croft stones.
|- style="background:#fff"|- style="background:#fff"
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybl|5px}}" | [[Ballimere Lake]] and [[Dyna Tree Hill]]
| {{wp|Loch Lomond}}
| {{wp|Stirlingshire}}/{{wp|Dunbartonshire}}
| {{wp|Scotland}}
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" | The largest Loch in Scotland. The name literally means ''Lake of the Elms'', which may be the inspiration for the Dynamax Tree resembling an elm.
|}

====Paldea====
[[File:Pokémon to real world Paldea-Iberian Peninsula.png|thumb|A comparison of Paldea to the Iberian Peninsula.]]
[[Paldea]] is based on the {{wp|Iberian Peninsula}}, primarily {{wp|Spain}} and its culture.<ref>[https://corporate.pokemon.co.jp/en/topics/detail/129.html The World of Paldea Came to Shima Spain Village]. The Pokémon Company. September 25, 2024.</ref> This is reflected in its geography, diverse biomes, architecture, cuisine, musical traditions, Pokémon nomenclature and design, and even the occasional use of the {{wp|Spanish language}} by Paldean inhabitants. Some references to {{wp|Portugal}} can also be found in western parts of the region.

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! style="background:#6AA9E4; width:11%; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Pokémon world
! style="background:#6AA9E4; width:25%" | Specific location
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|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Cabo Poco]]
| {{wp|Tarifa}}/{{wp|Punta de Tarifa}}/{{wp|Algeciras}}/{{wp|Línea de la Concepción}}/{{wp|Gibraltar}}/{{wp|Cádiz}}
| {{wp|Andalusia}}
| {{wp|Spain}}
| Cabo Poco [[a:File:Cabo Poco and Tarifa.png|is inspired by Tarifa]], a small Spanish coastal town surrounded by hills on {{wp|Punta de Tarifa}} in the {{wp|Province of Cádiz}}, {{wp|Andalusia}}. Just as Cabo Poco is the southernmost settlement on the Paldean Peninsula, Tarifa is the southernmost settlement on the {{wp|Iberian Peninsula}} and in {{wp|Continental Europe}}. The name Cabo Poco derives directly from Spanish ''cabo'' ("cape") and ''poco'' ("little"). Other language versions also echo the Spanish connections, referring to Spanish cooking measures and Andalusian cities: German "Cucharico" combines ''cucharita'' ("teaspoon", the standard 5 mL cooking measure) with ''rico'' ("rich"; "tasty"); Spanish "Pueblo Cahíz" nods to the unit ''cahíz'' (an old Spanish grain measure) and {{wp|Cádiz}}; French "Cuchalaga" blends ''cuchara'' ("spoon") with {{wp|Málaga}}; Italian "Dosilla" hints at ''dosis'' ("dose") and {{wp|Seville}}.

Cabo Poco may also have been loosely inspired by the geography of the {{wp|Bay of Gibraltar}} (which encompasses {{wp|Algeciras}}, {{wp|Línea de la Concepción}}, and {{wp|Gibraltar}}); by the surrounding hills (including the Rock of Gibraltar); and by the city of {{wp|Cádiz}}. Although many characters outside Cabo Poco also code-switch between English and Spanish, Nemona's code-switching could be a nod to {{wp|Llanito}}. At Nemona's house there is a reference to {{wp|Joan Miró|Joan Miró}}, a renowned Spanish painter whose work is widely exhibited in Spain. Additionally, both the Player's house and Nemona's house seem to be inspired by {{wp|Spanish Colonial Revival architecture}} villas, sharing hallmarks such as stucco façades; low-pitched clay tile roofs; round-arched doors and windows; brick/stone trim; wrought-iron grilles with flower boxes; ''azulejo''-style tile accents; and courtyard-like entries with planters or fountains.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Poco Path]]
| {{wp|Province of Cádiz}}
| {{wp|Andalusia}}
| {{wp|Spain}}
| In the Spanish version, this path is known as ''Sendero de Cahíz'', a reference to the city of {{wp|Cádiz}}.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Poco Path#Poco Path Lighthouse|Poco Path Lighthouse]]
| {{wp|es:Faro de Rota|Rota Lighthouse}}/{{wp|Chipiona Lighthouse}}/{{wp|Adra Lighthouse}}/{{wp|Europa Point Lighthouse}}/[https://turismo.cartagena.es/detalle_patrimonio_singular.asp?id=27 Faro de Navidad]/{{wp|es:Faro del Dique Juan Carlos I|Faro Juan Carlos I}}
| {{wp|Andalusia}}
| {{wp|Spain}}
| Poco Path Lighthouse [[a:File:Cabo Poco Rota lighthouse comparison.png|is likely inspired by Rota Lighthouse]]: Both structures share the late-20th-century Spanish ''MOPU'' style: a cylindrical concrete tower with a broad, bracketed gallery, a compact red lantern, the same daymark (a red band on white), and minimal, high-set openings. The Rota Lighthouse is also in the {{wp|province of Cádiz}}, which is consistent with the Cádiz inspiration behind Cabo Poco and Poco Path. Poco Path Lighthouse may also have been inspired by other, similarly designed lighthouses common in the south of the Iberian Peninsula, including the {{wp|Chipiona Lighthouse}}—known as the tallest on the peninsula—[[a:File:Cabo Poco Adra lighthouse comparison.png|Adra Lighthouse]], {{wp|Europa Point Lighthouse}}, [https://turismo.cartagena.es/detalle_patrimonio_singular.asp?id=27 Faro de Navidad], {{wp|es:Faro del Dique Juan Carlos I|Faro Juan Carlos I}}, among others.

The red band of the Poco Path Lighthouse is made from red mosaic tiles in the {{wp|trencadís}} style, a well-known technique of 20th-century {{wp|Modernisme|Catalan Modernisme}}.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Inlet Grotto]]
| {{wp|Los Caños de Meca}}/{{wp|Cueva del Tesoro}}
| {{wp|Andalusia}}
| {{wp|Spain}}
| The beachside entrance to Inlet Grotto [[a:File:Inlet Grotto and Las Cortinas.png|is inspired by Las Cortinas' caves]] of {{wp|Los Caños de Meca}} in the {{wp|province of Cádiz}}, renowned for their direct beach access and for attracting many hikers. Inlet Grotto also draws inspiration from the {{wp|Cueva del Tesoro}} ("Treasure Cave"), the only inlet grotto in Southern Iberia. Its second, landward entrance, cut into the coastal cliff, is also inspired by the Cueva del Tesoro’s own coastal-cliff entrance. Likewise, Inlet Grotto’s subterranean lake [[a:File:Inlet Grotto and Sala de los Lagos.png|is based on the Cueva del Tesoro’s Sala de los Lagos]] ("Lake Chamber"). In the Spanish version, it is called ''Gruta Caleta'' in reference to {{wp|La Caleta, Spain|La Caleta}}, a popular beach located also in the city of Cádiz.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Los Platos]]
| {{wp|Ciudad Real}}
| {{wp|Castilla–La Mancha}}
| {{wp|Spain}}
| A small city near the center of Spain, being a commuter town for people who study and work in Toledo and Madrid. Also, the name of the town in french is ''Plato Real''.
|- style="background:#fff" {{roundybl|5px}}"
| [[Mesagoza]]
| {{wp|Madrid}}/{{wp|Toledo, Spain|Toledo}}/{{wp|Barcelona}}/{{wp|Zaragoza}}
| {{wp|Community of Madrid}}/{{wp|Castile–La Mancha}}/{{wp|Catalonia}}/{{wp|Aragón}}
| {{wp|Spain}}
| Mesagoza is designed as a composite of several Spanish cities, with its geographical location inspired by {{wp|Madrid}} and {{wp|Toledo, Spain|Toledo}} in central Spain.<ref>https://corporate.pokemon.co.jp/en/topics/detail/129.html</ref> The city's size and importance mirror those of Madrid, the capital of Spain and the largest city in both the country and the Iberian Peninsula. Its name combines the Spanish words ''mesa'' (“table”) and ''meseta'' (“plateau”) with the city name {{wp|Zaragoza}}, evoking both the physical geography and a sense of place. Other language versions preserve the Spanish root: German (''Mesalona City'') pairs ''mesa'' with {{wp|Barcelona}}; Spanish (''Ciudad Meseta'') uses ''meseta'', referencing Spain’s central plateau, the {{wp|Meseta Central}}; French (''Mesaledo'') links ''mesa'' with {{wp|Toledo, Spain|Toledo}}; and Italian (''Mesapoli'') combines ''mesa'' with ''-poli'' (“city”).

Its architecture draws inspiration from the cities referenced in the names of its various language versions: {{wp|Naranja Academy}} and {{wp|Uva Academy}}, which are modeled after Barcelona landmarks such as the {{wp|Sagrada Família}}, {{wp|La Model (Barcelona)|La Model}}, and the {{wp|Hospital de Sant Pau}}. The city walls are inspired by the {{wp|Aljafería|Aljafería Palace}} in Zaragoza, while the bridges leading into the city are based on the {{wp|Puente de Alcántara}} over the {{wp|Tagus River}} in Toledo. The central plaza blends features from several iconic Spanish squares, including Madrid’s {{wp|Plaza Mayor, Madrid|Plaza Mayor}}, with its pointed tower rooftops, dormer windows, and arched passageways built into the surrounding buildings; Barcelona’s {{wp|Plaça Reial}}, with its yellow façades, matching patterned buildings, and palm trees; and Barcelona’s {{wp|Plaça de Catalunya}}, marked by its central wind rose and encircling segments, which likely served as the inspiration for the type-specific sectors, each reflecting a distinct Pokémon [[type]]. The city streets are inspired by Barcelona’s {{wp|Park Güell}} as well as by the historic old towns of Toledo and Zaragoza.

[[The Pokémon Company]] collaborated with the real-world theme park {{wp|Shima Spain Village}} in Japan to showcase Mesagoza’s various Spanish inspirations.<ref>[https://corporate.pokemon.co.jp/en/topics/detail/129.html The World of Paldea Came to Shima Spain Village]. The Pokémon Company. September 25, 2024.</ref>
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Naranja Academy]]{{sup/9|S}}/[[Uva Academy]]{{sup/9|V}}
| {{wp|Barcelona}}/{{wp|Segovia}}/{{wp|Salamanca}}/{{wp|Madrid}}
| {{wp|Catalonia}}/{{wp|Castile and León}}/{{wp|Community of Madrid}}
| {{wp|Spain}}
| The design of {{wp|Naranja Academy}}/{{wp|Uva Academy}} foregrounds Spanish language and architecture. The names themselves use Spanish words—naranja (“orange”) and uva (“grape”)—evoking Spain’s citrus and wine traditions, as seen in the {{wp|Horta of Valencia}} and the vineyards of {{wp|La Rioja}}. The complex blends features of the unfinished {{wp|Sagrada Família}} and the {{wp|Hospital de Sant Pau}} in {{wp|Barcelona}}, filtered through {{wp|Modernisme}}: its stained glass, organic lines, and tilework recall Gaudí’s use of {{wp|Trencadís}} (as popularized at {{wp|Park Güell}}).

Its distinctive panopticon-style plan resembles the {{wp|La Model (Barcelona)|La Model}} of Barcelona, while the surrounding arched bridges evoke the Roman engineering of the {{wp|Aqueduct of Segovia}}. Decorative stone façades and inner courtyards show parallels with {{wp|Plateresque}} ornamentation found in cities such as {{wp|Salamanca}} and {{wp|Plasencia}}, reinforcing the academic prestige of the setting. The open-air plazas and symmetrical staircases draw on Renaissance and Baroque civic design traditions seen in the grand entrances of Spanish cathedrals such as the {{wp|Catedral de Santiago de Compostela}}. TThe Academy’s age and scholarly symbolism likely pay tribute to Spain’s historic universities, especially the {{wp|University of Salamanca}}, one of the world’s oldest and the oldest in the Iberian Peninsula.

[[The Pokémon Company]] collaborated with the real-world theme park {{wp|Shima Spain Village}} in Japan to showcase the Spanish inspirations.<ref>[https://corporate.pokemon.co.jp/en/topics/detail/129.html The World of Paldea Came to Shima Spain Village]. The Pokémon Company. September 25, 2024.</ref>
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Pokémon League (Paldea)|Paldea League]] stadium
| {{wp|Santiago Bernabéu Stadium}}
| {{wp|Madrid}}
| {{wp|Spain}}
| The design of the Paldea League building in Pokémon Scarlet and Violet bears notable similarities to the renovated {{wp|Santiago Bernabéu Stadium}} in Madrid. Both share a massive, rounded, and modernized exterior with a metallic finish, giving them a sleek, high-tech appearance. The Bernabéu, home to Real Madrid CF, is situated in the {{wp|Chamartín}} district in the north of Madrid, which parallels the Paldea League’s placement north of Mesagoza on the game’s map. Madrid itself lies in the center of Spain, mirroring Mesagoza’s role as Paldea’s central hub.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[South Paldean Sea]]
| {{wp|Atlantic Ocean}}/{{wp|Strait of Gibraltar}}/{{wp|Alboran Sea}}
| Exclusive Economic Zones of {{wp|Exclusive economic zone of Spain|Spain}}
| {{wp|Spain}}
| The South Paldean Sea can be associated with the waters south of Spain, where the {{wp|Atlantic Ocean}} meets the {{wp|Alboran Sea}}, the westernmost portion of the {{wp|Mediterranean Sea}}. These two bodies of water are connected by the {{wp|Strait of Gibraltar}}, a key maritime passage linking Europe and Africa. Cabo Poco, located at the southern tip of Paldea and bathed by these waters, parallels the position of {{wp|Cádiz}}, a relevant port city situated on a narrow headland jutting into the Atlantic at the southern edge of the Iberian Peninsula.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[South Province (Area Five)]]
| {{wp|Murcia}}/{{wp|Doñana National Park}}
| {{wp|Region of Murcia}}/{{wp|Andalusia}}
| {{wp|Spain}}
| This area appears to be based on the wetlands and lagoons around Murcia, as well as the beaches of {{wp|Costa Cálida}}. The lagoons of Campotéjar, in particular, used to be a wastewater treatment plant, which could have inspired the Paldean Wooper's typing. Doñana constitutes the only tropical wetland in continental Europe, being a migration stop for flamingos and various warm climate animals, this explains why the dominant Pokémon in the area is [[Flamigo]].
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[South Province (Area Three)]]
| {{wp|Tabernas Desert}}
| {{wp|Andalusia}}
| {{wp|Spain}}
| A semi-arid desert with the characteristic landscapes of badlands, famous for being the recording location of several Western movies.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Artazon]]
| {{wp|Cartagena, Spain|Cartagena}}
| {{wp|Region of Murcia}}
| {{wp|Spain}}
| Geographically, it matches Murcia and especially Cartagena, [https://murciaplaza.com/public/Image/2020/9/31180310_1352731911538821_6995704209886674944_o_NoticiaAmpliada.jpg where a similar hedge maze can be found]. The windmill resembles the ones from La Mancha, popularized by {{wp|Don Quixote}}, {{wp|es:Molinos de Consuegra|such as those in Consuegra}}. Similar windmills can also be found on costal Murcia. Its Spanish name, Pueblo Altamía, references the {{wp|Cave of Altamira}}, though the real location of the cave is in Cantabria.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Levincia]]
| {{wp|Valencia}}
| {{wp|Valencian Community}}
| {{wp|Spain}}
| A Mediterranean coastal city, famous for the {{wp|City of Arts and Sciences}}, a complex of museums and institutions with a futuristic appearance. The overall design of Levincia also takes inspiration from other locations in the Valencian Community. The skyscrapers in Levincia resemble the coastal skyline of {{wp|Benidorm}}, which is the pioneer city of modernist architecture in Spain and precedes the {{wp|Cuatro Torres}} of Madrid. Its colorful houses might be a reference to the ones of {{wp|Villajoyosa}}. Levincia has the single [[Aquiesta Supermarket]] in Paldea, that is modeled after {{wp|Mercadona}}, the largest supermarket chain in the Iberian peninsula and founded in Valencia in 1977.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[East Province (Area Three)]]
| {{wp|Monegros Desert}}
| {{wp|Aragon}}
| {{wp|Spain}}
| Considered one of the most unique landscapes in Europe, even compared to Eurasian steppes. It is a place famous for its mining, its mountains and its festivals.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[East Province (Area Two)]]
| {{wp|Ademuz}}
| {{wp|Valencian Community}}
| {{wp|Spain}}
| Ademuz is part of a mountainous region filled with excavation sites, which may have likely served as the Area's primary inspiration.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[East Paldean Sea]]
| {{wp|Mallorca}}/{{wp|Menorca}}/{{wp|Ibiza}}/{{wp|Formentera}}
| {{wp|Balearic Islands}}
| {{wp|Spain}}
| The islands to the east likely represent the {{wp|Balearic Islands}}.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Ten Sights of Paldea#Grand Olive Orchard|Grand Olive Orchard]]
| {{wp|Province of Jaén (Spain)|Jaén}}
| {{wp|Andalusia}}
| {{wp|Spain}}
| One of the [[Ten Sights of Paldea]], the Grand Olive Orchard is a direct reference to the “Sea of Olive Trees”, the name given to the {{wp|Province of Jaén (Spain)|Province of Jaén}} in {{wp|Andalusia}}, {{wp|Spain}}, which contains the largest human-made olive grove in the world. This vast expanse of olive cultivation, shaped and maintained over centuries, is regarded as a “humanized forest” due to its entirely anthropogenic origin.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Ten Sights of Paldea#Secluded Beach|Secluded Beach]]
| {{wp|Costa del Sol|Costa del Sol}}
| {{wp|Andalusia|Andalusia}}
| {{wp|Spain}}
| One of the [[Ten Sights of Paldea]], the Secluded Beach is inspired by the beaches of the {{wp|Costa del Sol}} in southern {{wp|Andalusia}}. The real-world coastline is a major holiday destination, noted for its resort developments, holiday villas, and sheltered coves.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Colonnade Hollow]]
| {{wp|Ciudad Encantada|Ciudad Encantada}}
| {{wp|Castilla–La Mancha|Castilla–La Mancha}}
| {{wp|Spain}}
| One of the [[Ten Sights of Paldea]], Colonnade Hollow draws inspiration from the {{wp|Ciudad Encantada}} near {{wp|Cuenca, Spain|Cuenca}}, a protected natural site renowned for its unusually shaped karst formations and appearances in several films. The in-game pillar arrangement is often read as a nod to the specific formation known as “El Convento”.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Ten Sights of Paldea#Million Volt Skyline|Million Volt Skyline]]
| {{wp|Valencia}}/{{wp|Madrid}}
| {{wp|Province of Valencia}}/{{wp|Community of Madrid}}
| {{wp|Spain}}
| One of the [[Ten Sights of Paldea]], the Million Volt Skyline draws inspiration from the city of {{wp|Valencia}}, {{wp|Spain}}, reflecting its energetic character, modern architectural profile, and prominent coastal horizon. It is also influenced by {{wp|Madrid}}’s {{wp|Cuatro Torres Bussiness Area|Cinco Torres Business Area}}, as suggested by the inclusion of tall, modern skyscrapers visible from a distance.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Ten Sights of Paldea#Leaking Tower of Paldea|Leaking Tower of Paldea]]
| {{wp|Huesca}}/{{wp|Vilanova de Sau}}/{{wp|Huelva}}
| {{wp|Aragon}}/{{wp|Catalonia}}/{{wp|Andalusia}}
| {{wp|Spain}}
| One of the [[Ten Sights of Paldea]], the Leaking Tower of Paldea incorporates visual and thematic elements drawn from several well-known Spanish landmarks rather than a single real-world counterpart. Its design—a leaning, aged tower integrated into a watery landscape—bears a notable resemblance to the {{wp|bell tower of Sant Romà de Sau}} in {{wp|Catalonia}} and the {{wp|church of Mediano}} in {{wp|Aragon}}, both of which emerge dramatically from reservoir waters.

The structure’s apparent tilt recalls the {{wp|Torre de la Higuera}} in {{wp|Huelva}}, a 16th-century coastal watchtower partially collapsed on the shore. Additionally, the surrounding cascades evoke the landscapes of the {{wp|Monasterio de Piedra}} in {{wp|Zaragoza}}, where medieval architecture blends with prominent waterfalls. The tower is also a wordplay on the {{wp|Leaning Tower of Pisa}}.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Ten Sights of Paldea#Fury Falls|Fury Falls]]
| {{wp|es:Salto de la Novia|Salto de la Novia}}
| {{wp|Valencian Community}}
| {{wp|Spain}}
| One of the [[Ten Sights of Paldea]], Fury Falls is a reference to {{wp|es:Salto de la Novia|Salto de la Novia}} in {{wp|Navajas}} and its associated legend: brides were said to leap the river at this point to prove the sincerity of their love, with a successful jump auguring a happy marriage. In one version of the tale, a bride failed to clear the water and was caught in a whirlpool; her fiancé leapt in to rescue her, and both drowned. This motif is echoed in the presence of the Pokémon [[Chi-Yu]].
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Ten Sights of Paldea#Gracia Stones|Gracia Stones]]
| {{wp|Cariño}}/{{wp|Piélagos}}
| {{wp|Galicia}}/{{wp|Cantabria}}
| {{wp|Spain}}
| One of the [[Ten Sights of Paldea]], the Gracia Stones are a reference to {{wp|Os Aguillóns}} at {{wp|Cabo Ortegal}} in {{wp|A Coruña (province)|A Coruña}}, a triad of needle-like sea stacks long noted in local accounts and classical sources whose arrangement closely resembles the Stones’ clustered pinnacles. Additional visual parallels have been drawn with the {{wp|Liencres|Urros de Liencres}} along {{wp|Cantabria}}’s {{wp|Costa Quebrada}}, where prominent sea stacks and islets rise abruptly from the sea, much like the in-game landmark.
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| [[Ten Sights of Paldea#Casseroya Falls|Casseroya Falls]]
| {{wp|Ézaro}}/{{wp|Álava}}/{{wp|Burgos}}/{{wp|Puebla de Sanabria}}/{{wp|Zamora}}
| {{wp|Galicia}}/{{wp|Castilla y León}}
| {{wp|Spain}}
| One of the [[Ten Sights of Paldea]], Casseroya Falls synthesizes motifs from Spain’s Atlantic northwest, notably the {{wp|Ézaro|Ézaro Waterfall}} in {{wp|Galicia}}—frequently cited as a rare case of a river plunging directly into the sea and celebrated for its multi-ribbon descent over polished granite—and the {{wp|Nervion Waterfall}} on the {{wp|Álava}}–{{wp|Burgos}} border, the highest waterfall in the {{wp|Iberian Peninsula}}, which seasonally free-falls into a limestone canyon. Casseroya Lake is inspired by {{wp|Sanabria Lake}} in {{wp|Zamora}}, the largest glacial lake in the Iberian Peninsula and {{wp|Riberia Sacra}} in Galicia.
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| [[Ten Sights of Paldea#Glaseado’s Grasp|Glaseado’s Grasp]]
| {{wp|Gran Canaria}}/{{wp|Huesca}}
| {{wp|Canary Islands}}/{{wp|Aragón}}
| {{wp|Spain}}
| One of the [[Ten Sights of Paldea]], Glaseado’s Grasp is consistent with the inspiration that situate [[Glaseado Mountain]] within Spain’s {{wp|Pyrenees|Pyrenean}} sphere. The “hand” motif may draw on Spanish toponyms and rock silhouettes such as {{wp|El Dedo de Dios}} (“God’s Finger”) in {{wp|Gran Canaria}}—an iconic sea stack noted for its finger-like profile—as well as the finger-shaped conglomerate walls of the {{wp|Mallos de Riglos}} in {{wp|Huesca}}. Further parallels can be found in Spain’s tradition of anthropomorphic karst landscapes, notably {{wp|Cuenca}}’s {{wp|Ciudad Encantada}}, where erosion has produced formations reminiscent of living figures.
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| [[Ten Sights of Paldea#Paldea's Highest Peak|Paldea's Highest Peak]]
| {{wp|Mulhacén}}/{{wp|Aneto}}
| {{wp|Andalusia}}/{{wp|Aragón}}
| {{wp|Spain}}
| One of the [[Ten Sights of Paldea]], Paldea's Highest Peak draws inspiration from {{wp|Mulhacén}}, the highest mountain in the {{wp|Iberian Peninsula}} located in the {{wp|Sierra Nevada (Spain)|Sierra Nevada}}, and from {{wp|Aneto}}, the highest summit of the {{wp|Pyrenees}}.
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| [[Zapapico]]
| {{wp|Cuenca, Spain|Cuenca}}/{{wp|es:Setenil de las Bodegas|Setenil de las Bodegas}}
| {{wp|Castile–La Mancha}}/{{wp|Andalusia}}
| {{wp|Spain}}
| Zapapico being surrounded and built upon large plateaus is similar to Cuenca. Cuenca was also originally built as a defensive city during the medieval period, and the player obtains the armour necessary to evolve [[Charcadet]] in this town. {{wp|Setenil de las Bodegas}} is a small town built near the mountains and is famous for its historical and architectural ensemble, which includes terraced houses built on rocky walls and with white stone facades.
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| [[Tagtree Thicket]]
| {{wp|Oma forest|Bosque de Oma}}
| {{wp|Basque Country (autonomous community)|Basque Country}}
| {{wp|Spain}}
| Also known as the "painted forest" or “Bosque Animado”.
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| [[Montenevera]]
| {{wp|Ezcaray}}/{{wp|Trasmoz}} and {{wp|Zugarramurdi}}
| {{Wp|La Rioja}}/{{wp|Euskadi}}/{{wp|Navarre}}
| {{wp|Spain}}
| La Rioja is famed for its many mountain ranges and valleys, which dot Montenevera and its surrounding area. Not only are the buildings in Montenevera a similar style to [https://st.depositphotos.com/1935053/2301/i/450/depositphotos_23015216-stock-photo-street-of-ezcaray-la-rioja.jpg those found in Ezcaray], but Ezcaray’s largest tourist attraction is its ski resort. Trasmoz is known as the only excommunicated of Spain because the town was one of the few that protected the victims of witchcraft. Zugarramurdi was one of the towns most famous for the witch trials in the Basque area and is currently famous for its caves where rallies were held and for its celebrations based on witches.
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| [[Glaseado Mountain]]
| {{wp|Mulhacén}}/{{wp|Aneto}}
| {{wp|Andalusia}}/{{wp|Aragon}}
| {{wp|Spain}}
| Glaseado mountain—the region’s highest peak—draws inspiration from {{wp|Mulhacén}}, the highest mountain in the {{wp|Iberian Peninsula}} located in the {{wp|Sierra Nevada (Spain)|Sierra Nevada}}, and from {{wp|Aneto}}, the highest summit of the {{wp|Pyrenees}}. In the Spanish localization, the mountain is named ''Sierra Napada'', a clear reference to Sierra Nevada, a mountain range in southern Spain. Both Aneto and the Sierra Nevada are characterized by snow-covered peaks.
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| [[North Province (Area One)]]
| {{wp|Cantabrian Mountains}}/{{wp|Picos de Europa}}
| {{wp|Cantabria}}/{{wp|Asturias}}
| {{wp|Spain}}
| The looming, spire-like peaks of the Picos are well represented with the spires in this area. It also coincides with the far northern regions of Spain and has a similar feel overall. In particular, the spire-like shape can be best seen in examples such as The Naranjo de Bulnes/Picu Urriellu, one of the most famous locations in all of Spain for mountain climbers.
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| [[North Province (Area Two)]]
| {{wp|Cantabrian Mountains}}/{{wp|Cantabrian mixed forests}}
| {{wp|Cantabria}}/{{wp|Asturias}}
| {{wp|Spain}}
| The distinctive look of these mixed tree forests is a pretty close match to this area and its location and casts a similar image of thin, tall stands of trees. The bamboo and the overall Chinese aesthetic may also be a reference to Northern Spain having large bamboo farms which focus on the {{wp|Phyllostachys edulis}}.<ref>https://bambubatu.com/seeking-bamboo-in-spain-venture-in-valencia/</ref> It may also be a reference to the native grass, {{wp|Arundo donax}} which bears great resemblance to bamboo and grows to quite a size - both benefit more from the relatively wetter climate of the north.
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| [[North Province (Area Three)]]
| {{wp|Santander, Spain}}/{{wp|Gozón}}
| {{wp|Cantabria}}/{{wp|Asturias}}
| {{wp|Spain}}
| It coincides geographically with the regions of Cantabria and Asturias. The {{wp|es:Faro de Lastres|Faro de Lastres}} is a green lighthouse that can be found here, matching the color of the North Province lighthouse in Paldea.
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| [[North Paldean Sea]]
| {{wp|Bay of Biscay}}/Enclaves in Northern Spain/{{wp|Atlantic Islands of Galicia National Park|Atlantic Islands of Galicia}}
| Exclusive Economic Zones of {{wp|Exclusive economic zone of Spain|Spain}}/{{wp|Navarre}}/{{wp|Basque Country (autonomous community)|Basque Country}}/{{wp|Castille and León}}/{{wp|Cantabria}}/{{wp|Galicia, Spain|Galicia}}
| {{wp|Spain}}
| The North Paldean Sea can be associated with the waters off northern Spain—the {{wp|Bay of Biscay}} (locally the {{wp|Cantabrian Sea}})—along the coasts of {{wp|Galicia}}, {{wp|Asturias}}, {{wp|Cantabria}}, and the {{wp|Basque Country (autonomous community)|Basque Country}}, before opening to the {{wp|Atlantic Ocean}} in the northwest. The eastern islands may allude to the patchwork of enclaves and exclaves within {{wp|Navarre}}, the {{wp|Basque Country (autonomous community)|Basque Country}}, and {{wp|Castile and León}}—for example the {{wp|Enclave of Treviño}} (Burgos within Álava), {{wp|Valle de Villaverde}} (a Cantabrian exclave in Biscay), and the Catalan exclave of {{wp|Llívia}}. The western islands could echo the archipelagos of the {{wp|Atlantic Islands of Galicia National Park}} off the Galician coast.
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| [[Ruchbah Squad's Base]]
| {{wp|Santoña, Victoria and Joyel Marshes Natural Park}}
| {{wp|Cantabria}}
| {{wp|Spain}}
| A series of marshes and swamps in Cantabria.
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| [[Casseroya Lake]]
| {{wp|es:Ribeira Sacra|Riberia Sacra}}/{{wp|Puebla de Sanabria}}
| {{wp|Galicia (Spain)|Galicia}}/{{wp|Castilla y León}}
| {{wp|Spain}}
| Inspired by {{wp|Riberia Sacra}}, a UNESCO Heritage site. Located in {{wp|Galicia}}, at the mountainous northwestern tip of the Iberian Peninsula, the biosphere reserve is a site of great natural beauty enriched by a rich cultural heritage. The river Miño meanders at the bottom of the vertiginous Sil canyons, in a landscape of valleys, tertiary depressions and scrubland foothills, resulting in a diversity of microclimates. It is also based on {{wp|Sanabria Lake}}, the largest freshwater lake in the Iberian peninsula, the lake is an important source of seafood for the nearby towns, that explains the name of the lake and the population of Tatsugiri's in the lake.
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| [[Socarrat Trail]]
| {{wp|Monte Aloia|Monte Aloia Natural Park}}
| {{wp|Galicia (Spain)|Galicia}}
| {{wp|Spain}}
| The oldest Natural Park in Galicia, popular for its hiking trails, with similar landscapes and vegetation, [https://tui.gal/en/turismo/vive-e-conoce/monte-aloia as can be seen here]. It might also be inspired by the {{wp|Fragas do Eume}}, a closer geographic match.
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| [[Medali]]
| {{wp|Valladolid}}/{{wp|Mérida, Spain|Mérida}}
| {{wp|Castile and León}}/{{wp|Extremadura}}
| {{wp|Spain}}
| It is based on Valladolid, matching its location and [https://www.danflyingsolo.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/Tapas-valladolid-spain-1.jpg architecture], and Mérida, with its {{wp|Roman Theatre (Mérida)|Roman theatre}} and [https://static1.mclcm.net/iod/images/v2/114/citytheque/localite_101_3454/1200x600_100_300_000000x10x0.jpg white and yellow buildings].
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| [[Asado Desert]]
| {{wp|Tabernas Desert}}/{{wp|Maspalomas}}/{{wp|Bardenas Reales}}/{{wp|Corralejo, Fuerteventura|Corralejo}}/{{wp|Guadalperal}}
| {{wp|Almería}}/{{wp|Gran Canaria}}/{{wp|Fuerteventura}}/{{wp|Navarre}}/{{wp|Extremadura}}
| {{wp|Spain}}
| Asado Desert draws on multiple Spanish references. The name itself uses the Spanish word asado (“roasted”), evoking a sun-baked landscape. Its Wild West styling closely parallels the {{wp|Tabernas Desert}} in {{wp|Almería}}, often described as Europe’s only true desert and the backdrop for many {{wp|Spaghetti Western}} films by {{wp|Sergio Leone}} (e.g., {{wp|The Good, the Bad and the Ugly}}), with sets preserved at {{wp|Oasys MiniHollywood}} and {{wp|Fort Bravo, Texas Hollywood}}.

The large dune fields can also echo Spain’s Atlantic- and Saharan-influenced dune systems, notably the {{wp|Maspalomas Dunes}} (Gran Canaria) and the sands of {{wp|Corralejo Natural Park}} (Fuerteventura). Beyond Almería and the Canaries, Spain’s arid and semi-arid badlands—such as {{wp|Bardenas Reales}} (Navarre) and the steppe landscapes around {{wp|Cabo de Gata-Níjar Natural Park}}—offer further visual templates for Asado Desert’s eroded mesas, gullies, and stark vegetation.

Additionally, the presence of megalithic stone formations in western Paldea may reference the Totanes Cromlech, or the {{wp|Dolmen of Guadalperal}}, also known as the "Treasure of Guadalperal" and as "the Spanish Stonehenge", in {{wp|Extremadura}}, one of the Iberian Peninsula’s best-preserved prehistoric structures, reinforcing the region’s archaeological and cultural connections to western Spain.
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| [[Alfornada Cavern]]
| {{wp|es:Sistema Alto del Tejuelo|Sistema Alto del Tejuelo}}/{{wp|Ojo Guareña}}/{{wp|Treasure Cave, Spain|Cueva del Tesoro}}/{{wp|Caves of Nerja}}/{{wp|Gruta de las Maravillas}}/{{wp|es:Cueva del Gato|Cueva del Gato}}/{{wp|Cuevas de Sorbas}}
| {{wp|Cantabria}}/{{wp|Castilla y León}}/{{wp|Andalusia}}
| {{wp|Spain}}
| Alfornada Cavern is inspired by Spain’s greatest subterranean systems. At its core, its vast, interconnected galleries recall the monumental {{wp|es:Sistema Alto del Tejuelo|Sistema Alto del Tejuelo}} in {{wp|Cantabria}} (~213 km of mapped passages, the largest cave network in Iberia, second in Europe, and among the largest in the world) and the sprawling {{wp|Ojo Guareña}} complex in {{wp|Burgos}} (>110 km of passages and around 400 individual entrances).

Additional details layer in elements from {{wp|Andalusia|Andalusian}} cave traditions: sea-cut chambers and tidal basins echo the {{wp|Treasure Cave, Spain|Cueva del Tesoro}} at {{wp|Rincón de la Victoria}}, while broad halls adorned with dense speleothems mirror the {{wp|Caves of Nerja}} in {{wp|Nerja}} and the {{wp|Gruta de las Maravillas}} in {{wp|Aracena}} ({{wp|Province of Huelva|Huelva}}). The traversable, corridor-like structure parallels the karst through-system of {{wp|es:Cueva del Gato|Cueva del Gato}} and the connected Hundidero–Gato complex near {{wp|Benaoján}} and {{wp|Montejaque}}. The pale, sparkling walls seen in certain sections evoke the gypsum faces of the {{wp|Cuevas de Sorbas}} in {{wp|Sorbas}} ({{wp|Province of Almería}}), while the “oven/batch” etymology behind its name finds a natural counterpart in the honeycombed tafoni of the {{wp|Acantilado del Asperillo}} on the {{wp|Costa de la Luz}}, near {{wp|Mazagón, Spain|Mazagón}} in {{wp|Huelva}}.
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| [[Alfornada]]
| {{wp|Seville}}/{{wp|Huelva}}/{{wp|White Towns of Andalusia|Pueblos Blancos}}/{{wp|Sagres (Vila do Bispo)|Sagres}}
| {{wp|Andalusia}}/{{wp|Algarve}}
| {{wp|Spain}}/{{wp|Portugal}}
| The city's theme is inspired by the {{wp|Moorish art|Moorish}} influence of southern Iberia, notably {{wp|Andalusia}} and {{wp|Algarve}}. The city’s name in various languages reinforces Spanish/Andalusian connections: “Alfornada” has the Arabic-derived prefix al- (“the”); the German name “Asarilla” blends Spanish asar (“to roast”) with “Sevilla” while the Italian “Las Brasas” refers to “the embers” in Spanish language, all evoking traditional Andalusian baking culture.

In this regard, Alfornada is inspired by {{wp|White Towns of Andalusia|Pueblos Blancos}}—in its compact layout of sloping narrow streets, whitewashed façades, and tiered viewpoints—with clear parallels to {{wp|Vejer de la Frontera}} and {{wp|Frigiliana}}. The main square that serves as the Gym’s stage functions like a typical Andalusian plaza-mirador, while the decorative details—ceramic tiles, latticework, and wrought-iron balconies—point to {{wp|Seville}}, from the Mudéjar patterns of the {{wp|Alcázar of Seville|Real Alcázar}} to the {{wp|Triana, Seville|tilework of Triana}} and the patio culture, with a white-and-ochre palette and bougainvillea recalling historic quarters such as {{wp|Santa Cruz, Seville|Santa Cruz}}. Its geographical location matches the {{wp|Sagres Point}} and the {{wp|Province of Huelva}}. There are also some Algarve influences like the [https://i.imgur.com/dvsOLJ3.png historical chimneys] and the {{wp|Armillary Sphere}}, possibly related to the {{wp|Sagres school}} or [https://i.imgur.com/JMN1t7x.png the one in Albufeira].

The tradition of hanging painted ceramic dishes on exterior walls, present in both Seville and {{wp|Huelva}}, have influenced Alfornada’s decorative style, echoing Triana’s pottery heritage as well as similar displays in {{wp|Huelva}}’s coastal and inland towns. Alfornada ovens are also based on [https://santorinidave.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Seville-Attractions-Centro-Andaluz-Arte-Contemporanio.jpg Seville's ceramic ovens].
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| [[South Province (Area Six)]]
| {{wp|Almuñécar}}/{{wp|Vejer de la Frontera}}/{{wp|Nerja}}/{{wp|Sagres Point}}/{{wp|Praia da Marinha}}/{{wp|Roman Ruins of Milreu}}
| {{wp|Andalusia}}/{{wp|Algarve}}
| {{wp|Spain}}/{{wp|Portugal}}
| The elevated, cliff-ringed coast of South Province (Area Six) around Alfornada evokes the pine-topped bluffs of the {{wp|La Breña y Marismas del Barbate Natural Park}} above {{wp|Barbate}}, with a watchtower silhouette reminiscent of the {{wp|Tower of Tajo|Torre del Tajo}}; the hill town itself recalls the whitewashed profiles of {{wp|Vejer de la Frontera}}. The sea-facing headlands and coves mirror the {{wp|es:Acantilados de Maro-Cerro Gordo|Acantilados de Maro–Cerro Gordo}} between {{wp|Nerja}} and {{wp|Almuñécar}}, dotted with almenara towers such as the {{wp|es:Torre de Maro|Torre de Maro}} and {{wp|es:Torre del Pino (Nerja)|Torre del Pino}}. This [https://i.imgur.com/wn5uwXI.png semi-arid plateau could also reflects the Sagres Point].

The cavern route up to town matches show caves on the Costa del Sol—most clearly the {{wp|Caves of Nerja}} and the sea-formed {{wp|Treasure Cave, Spain|Cueva del Tesoro}} at {{wp|Rincón de la Victoria}}—while the flowered clearings on the plateau fit the Mediterranean scrub and spring bloom common to the nearby sierras. It could also have inspiration by the cliffs, arches and caves of the [https://i.imgur.com/s8BrYfW.png western Algarve coast]. The ruins match the [https://i.imgur.com/bg3qrw9.png Roman ruins of Milreu, near Faro].
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| [[Porto Marinada]]
| {{wp|pt:Costa Nova do Prado|Costa Nova do Prado}}/{{wp|Nazaré, Portugal|Nazaré}}
| {{wp|Central Region, Portugal|Central Region}}
| {{wp|Portugal}}
| The main inspiration is the coastal town of Costa Nova, as seen in its [https://i.imgur.com/tNpUjC1.png typical striped houses] and the [https://i.imgur.com/hl8pghX.png market's facade]. The layout of the town also matches [https://i.imgur.com/ZJA6obu.png Nazaré, with the lighthouse on a cliff] and a beach to the north. [https://i.imgur.com/IZLkJOK.png Ponta do Sol in Madeira Island] is also similar. The lighthouse might be inspired by the {{wp|Lighthouse of Praia da Barra}}. The market's interior resembles the [https://i.imgur.com/9j2EYFQ.png Mercado da Ribeira] in Lisbon.
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| [[West Paldean Sea]]
| {{wp|Pontevedra}}/{{wp|A Coruña}}/{{wp|Azores}}/{{wp|Berlengas}}
| {{wp|Galicia}}/{{wp|Azores}}/{{wp|Central Region, Portugal|Central Region}}
| {{wp|Spain}}/{{wp|Portugal}}
| The West Paldean Sea can be associated with the Atlantic waters off western Spain, especially the Galician coast—the {{wp|Rías Altas}} and {{wp|Rías Baixas}}—and the rugged {{wp|Costa da Morte}}. Prominent headlands like {{wp|Cape Finisterre}} and {{wp|Cape Touriñán}} (the westernmost point of mainland Spain) match the game’s cliffed capes and storm-washed shores, while historic beacons such as the Roman {{wp|Tower of Hercules}} in {{wp|A Coruña}} echo the region’s lighthouse-studded skyline.

The scattered islets and protected archipelagos off this coast, including the {{wp|Atlantic Islands of Galicia National Park}} ({{wp|Cíes Islands}}, {{wp|Ons Island}}, {{wp|Sálvora}}, {{wp|Cortegada Island}}), parallel the in-game offshore islands along Paldea’s west, tying the West Paldean Sea to Spain’s Atlantic edge. The larger archipelago might also represent the Azores, as it is similar in scale and located at a similar latitude. The smaller one could be in a location similar to the Berlengas, off the coast of {{wp|Peniche, Portugal|Peniche}}.
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| [[Cascarrafa]]
| {{wp|Alpujarras}}/{{wp|Mojácar}}/{{wp|Almendra Dam|Almendra Dam, Salamanca}}/{{wp|Porto Covo}}
| {{wp|Andalusia}}/{{wp|Castilla y León}}/{{wp|Alentejo}}
| {{wp|Spain}}/{{wp|Portugal}}
| Cascarrafa, a tiered “City of Water”, draw inspiration mostly from settlements in {{wp|Andalusia}}, where whitewashed architecture meets arid landscapes. Its position on the edge of the Asado Desert parallels the geography of the {{wp|Tabernas Desert}} in the {{wp|Province of Almería}}, Iberia’s only true desert, which lies close to hill towns and the Mediterranean coast.

The city’s narrow stepped streets and terraced design resemble Andalusia’s {{wp|White Towns of Andalusia|Pueblos Blancos}}, particularly {{wp|Mojácar}}, a historic hillside settlement overlooking semi-desert terrain. Some design elements also draw from Portuguese southern towns, such as [https://i.imgur.com/uRc3ljs.png Porto Covo], with the floor patterns resembling the [https://i.imgur.com/YI2qgxP.png traditional Portuguese pavement] style and the white-and-blue houses.

The city’s abundant cascading water features may reference Andalusian and {{wp|Islamic architecture}} traditions of hydraulic engineering, such as {{wp|Acequia|acequia}} irrigation channels and stepped fountains in the {{wp|Alpujarras}}, where water is channelled from mountain springs through towns and gardens. The Spanish localization, Ciudad Cántara, derives from ''cántara'', a traditional earthenware jug used for water storage and transport, and the Spanish city {{wp|Alcántara}}, a toponym from the Arabic al-qanṭara (“the bridge”).

The English name, “Cascarrafa,” combines ''cascada''/''cascata'' (Spanish and Portuguese for “waterfall”, respectively) with ''garrafa'' (Spanish and Portuguese for “carafe” or “jug”), further reinforcing the link to water and traditional Iberian vessels. The German “Garrafosa City” also draws from ''garrafa'' and ''hermosa'' (Spanish for “beautiful”), while the French “Jarramanca” derives from ''jarra'' (Spanish and Portuguese for “jug”) combined with the name of the Spanish city {{wp|Salamanca}}—possibly a reference to the {{wp|Almendra Dam, Salamanca|Almendra Dam}}, which matches Cascarrafa in both theme and location. The Italian “Garrafopoli” similarly uses ''garrafa'' alongside the suffix -poli (“city”).
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| [[West Province (Area One)]]
|{{wp|Huelva}}/{{wp|Cáceres}}/{{wp|Consuegra}}/{{wp|Mota del Cuervo}}/{{wp|Arrábida Natural Park|Serra da Arrábida}}/{{wp|Serras de Aire e Candeeiros Natural Park|Serra de Aire}}
| {{wp|Extremadura}}/{{wp|Andalusia}}/{{wp|Castilla–La Mancha}}/{{wp|Lisbon Region}}/{{wp|Central Region, Portugal|Central Region}}
| {{wp|Spain}}/{{wp|Portugal}}
| The sight of windmills can be read as an homage to the iconic mills of {{wp|Castilla–La Mancha}}, {{wp|es:Molinos de Consuegra|such as those in Consuegra}} and {{wp|Mota del Cuervo}}, immortalised in the famous novel {{wp|Don Quixote}}. The Open Sky Titan’s stork-like appearance may be inspired by the white storks of {{wp|Trujillo, Cáceres}}, where they famously nest atop churches, castles, and bell towers, becoming a defining part of the skyline.

The area could draw inspiration from the Costa de la Luz in {{wp|Province of Huelva}}, particularly around {{wp|Mazagón}} and the {{wp|Doñana National Park}}, where farmland meets coastal dunes and dry scrub. The coastal watchtower may be based on structures like the {{wp|es:Torre del Loro|Torre del Loro}} or the Torre del Asperillo, and the nearby cliffs resemble the {{wp|Acantilado del Asperillo}}, part of a protected natural reserve overlooking the Atlantic. The area can also be a mix of [https://i.imgur.com/hxa8eTh.png Serra da Arrábida] and [https://i.imgur.com/hy8buPC.png Serra de Aire with its traditional windmills next to modern wind farms].
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| [[South Province (Area Two)]]
| {{wp|Province of Jaén (Spain)|Jaén}}/{{wp|Province of Córdoba (Spain)|Córdoba}}/{{wp|Province_of_Cáceres|Cáceres}}/{{wp|Province_of_Badajoz|Badajoz}}//{{wp|Mota del Cuervo}}/{{wp|Consuegra}}
| {{wp|Andalusia}}/{{wp|Extremadura}}/{{wp|Castilla–La Mancha}}
| {{wp|Spain}}
| South Province (Area Two) match geographically with the {{wp|Province_of_Cáceres|Cáceres}} and {{wp|Province_of_Badajoz|Badajoz}} in {{wp|Extremadura}}, and draws clear inspiration from the landscapes and traditions of southern Spain, most notably the {{wp|Province of Jaén (Spain)|Province of Jaén}} and the {{wp|Province of Córdoba}}, in {{wp|Andalucía}}. Known as the world capital of olive oil, Jaén is covered by vast stretches of olive groves, often described as a {{wp|Province of Jaén (Spain)|Mar de Olivos}} (“Sea of Olives”), which closely resemble the unbroken agricultural vistas depicted in the game.

The Grand Olive Orchard in the game evokes the extensive groves that shape both the economy and the cultural character of Andalusian towns such as {{wp|Martos}}, {{wp|Úbeda}}, and {{wp|Baeza}}. Cortondo’s Olive Roll Gym Test, in which challengers push a giant olive through a field, parallels the celebratory nature of the {{wp|Fiesta de la Aceituna}} in Martos, a festival marking the start of the olive harvest each December. The rural scenery of Area Two, with its patchwork fields, riverside farmland, and elevated watchtower, reflects the {{wp|Guadalquivir River valley}} and the fortified hilltops of Jaén, a province noted for having one of the highest concentrations of medieval castles and watchtowers in Europe.

Elements of South Province (Area Two)’s surroundings also recall other parts of rural Spain. The presence of windmills in the nearby landscape is reminiscent of those in {{wp|Castilla–La Mancha}}, such as the preserved mills in {{wp|Consuegra}} and {{wp|Mota del Cuervo}}. These are culturally linked to {{wp|Don Quixote|Miguel de Cervantes’ Don Quixote}}, a connection further reinforced in the Spanish version of the game through businesses like “Heladería Dulcinante,” which references the character {{wp|Dulcinea del Toboso}}.
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| [[Cortondo]]
| {{wp|Jaén}}/{{wp|Córdoba}}/{{wp|Martos}}/{{wp|Mota del Cuervo}}/{{wp|Consuegra}}
| {{wp|Andalusia}}/{{wp|Castilla–La Mancha}}
| {{wp|Spain}}
| Cortondo is portrayed as a rural town surrounded by olive groves. This depiction references the olive-growing regions of Spain, particularly in {{wp|Andalusia}}, where the {{wp|Province of Jaén (Spain)|Province of Jaén}} and {{wp|Province of Córdoba (Spain)|Province of Córdoba}} are the largest producers of olives in the world. Towns in these areas celebrate the start of the harvest season with events such as the {{wp|Fiesta de la Aceituna|"Fiesta de la Aceituna"}} in {{wp|Martos}}, {{wp|Jaén}}, which parallels Cortondo’s in-game “Olive Harvest Festival” as both centre on communal celebrations of the olive harvest.

The name “Cortondo” may derive from a combination of {{wp|Córdoba}}, a historic Andalusian city, and the Spanish word redondo (“round”). In the Spanish localization, the town is called Pueblo Pirotín, Spanish for the paper liners used in baking cupcakes. In German, it is called “Moldrid,” which combines molde (Spanish for “mold”) with {{wp|Madrid}}; the French “Sevaro” is thought to derive from aro de tarta (Spanish for “cake ring”) and {{wp|Seville}}; and the Italian “Moldulcia” blends molde (Spanish for “mold”), dulce (Spanish for “sweets”), and {{wp|Andalusia}}.

Elements of Cortondo’s surroundings also recall other parts of rural Spain. The presence of windmills in the nearby landscape is reminiscent of those in {{wp|Castilla–La Mancha}}, such as the preserved mills in {{wp|Consuegra}} and {{wp|Mota del Cuervo}}. These are culturally linked to {{wp|Don Quixote|Miguel de Cervantes’ Don Quixote}}, a connection further reinforced in the Spanish version of the game through businesses like “Heladería Dulcinante,” which references the character {{wp|Dulcinea del Toboso}}.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Great Crater of Paldea]]
| {{wp|Sierra de Guadarrama}}
| {{wp|Community of Madrid}}/{{wp|Castile and León}}
| {{wp|Spain}}
| The Sierra de Guadarrama is the highest mountain system in central Spain. Since ancient times, it has been called "The Seven Peaks of the Dragon", which could be the inspiration for the Paradox Pokémon.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Area Zero]]
| {{wp|Ordesa y Monte Perdido National Park}}
| {{wp|Aragon}}
| {{wp|Spain}}
| The landscapes of {{wp|Ordesa Valley}} are reminiscent of Area Zero, with its waterfalls and steep cliffs reaching above the clouds.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Area Zero Underdepths]]
| {{wp|es:Sistema del Cerro del Cuevón|Cuevón underground system}}
| {{wp|Asturias}}
| {{wp|Spain}}
| With 1.589 meter, is the deepest cave system in the Iberian peninsula, an underground cave system full of little cliffs and vertical dim lighted tunnels in vertical and horizontal. The presence of the crystal tree in the underdepths can be a reference to the tree of the Hesperides Garden, a legendary tree of golden apples that some old world texts claimed was in the south of Spain and relationed with the {{wp|Tartessos}} people, a semi-legendary people that was believed were descendants of the atlantean people.
|}

===Other territories===
====Kitakami====
[[File:Pokémon to real world Kitakami North Honshu and Towada park.png|thumb|A comparison of Kitakami to the Tohoku prefectures and the Towada Hachimantai park.]]
While the land of Kitakami is part of the core series games, it is unclear whether it is considered its own region, part of a larger region, or neither. Kitakami is inspired by the northeastern region of Japan, the {{wp|Tohoku|Tōhoku region}} (東北地方 ''Tōhoku Chihō'', meaning "North East"); particularly {{wp|Iwate Prefecture|Iwate}}, {{wp|Akita Prefecture|Akita}}, and {{wp|Aomori Prefecture|Aomori}}, the three northernmost prefectures on {{wp|Honshu|Honshū}}. Much like the real-world location, the land of Kitakami itself is well known for its countryside atmosphere as well as its mountains and rice paddles.

The name "Kitakami" may be derived from the real-world {{wp|Kitakami River|river}}, {{wp|Kitakami Mountains|mountain range}}, or {{wp|Kitakami, Iwate|city in Iwate}}. Despite this, the terrain of the explorable areas of Kitakami in [[The Teal Mask]] is more similar to that of {{wp|Towada-Hachimantai National Park}} and neighboring areas on the borders of the three prefectures.

{| style="background:#2E83D2; margin-left:10px; margin-bottom:10px; {{roundy}}; border:3px solid #81807A"
|-
! style="background:#6AA9E4; width:15%; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Pokémon world
! style="background:#6AA9E4; width:25%" colspan="2" | Specific location
! style="background:#6AA9E4; width:20%" colspan="2" | Prefecture
! style="background:#6AA9E4; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Notes
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Mossui Town]]
| {{jwp|盛岡市}}
| {{wp|Morioka}}
| {{jwp|岩手県}}
| {{wp|Iwate Prefecture|Iwate}}
| Morioka is the capital and largest city of Iwate Prefecture. It is located at the confluence of the {{wp|Kitakami River}} and its two tributaries, the {{wp|NakatsuRiver|Nakatsu}} and the {{wp|Shizukuishi River|Shizukuishi}}. It is usually considered the gateway to the Hachimantai mountain range that crosses the border of Iwate and Akita.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Apple Hills]]
| {{jwp|江刺市}}, {{jwp|奥州市}} or {{jwp|津軽地方}}
| {{wp|Esashi, Iwate|Esashi}}, {{wp|Ōshū, Iwate|Ōshū}} or Tsugaru region
| {{jwp|岩手県}} or {{jwp|青森県}}
| {{wp|Iwate Prefecture|Iwate}} or {{wp|Aomori Prefecture|Aomori}}
| These places are notable for their apple agriculture.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Oni Mountain]] & [[Infernal Pass]]
| {{jwp|恐山}}
| {{wp|Mount Osore}}
| {{jwp|青森県}}
| {{wp|Aomori Prefecture|Aomori}}
| A Buddhist temple is located in the caldera of an active volcano and is considered to be a pilgrimage destination in Aomori Prefecture. In Japanese mythology, this mountain is believed to be one of the gates to the underworld.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Crystal Pool]]
| {{jwp|宇曽利湖}}
| {{wp|Lake Usori}}
| {{jwp|青森県}}
| {{wp|Aomori Prefecture|Aomori}}
| Lake Usori is a volcanic crater lake, located within same volcanic zone as Mount Osore. It is also known for being extremely acidic, due to hydrogen sulfide.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Chilling Waterhead]]
| {{jwp|龍泉洞}}
| {{wp|Ryūsendō}}
| {{jwp|岩手県}}
| {{wp|Iwate Prefecture|Iwate}}
| Doesn't geographically match, but it is one of the Japan's largest limestones caverns.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Timeless Woods]]
| {{jwp|白神山地}}
| {{wp|Shirakami-Sanchi}}
| {{jwp|青森県}} and {{jwp|秋田県}}
| {{wp|Aomori Prefecture|Aomori}} and {{wp|Akita Prefecture|Akita}}
| This mountainous area includes the last virgin forest of Siebold's beech which once covered most of northern Japan. It is also notable for being the habitat of Japanese black bears.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Gracious Stones]]
| {{jwp|大湯環状列石}}
| {{wp|Ōyu Stone Circles}}
| {{jwp|秋田県}}
| {{wp|Akita Prefecture|Akita}}
| A serie of stone rings condensed in a single ring, that is part of a Jomon archeological site. The only of all Japan's stone rings that has an UNESCO listing.
|}

==In the spin-off and side series games==
[[File:Pokémon to real world Fiore Okayama Hyōgo Shodo Island.png|thumb|200px|Comparison of Fiore to Okayama and Hyōgo Prefectures, and Shōdo Island]]
[[File:Pokemon-to-real-world-Japan.png|thumb|left|251px|The map of Japan showing the speculative locations of the spin-off Japanese Pokémon regions.]]
[[File:Pokemon-to-real-world-spinoff-North America.png|thumb|left|250px|The map of the Americas showing the locations of the spin-off and side series American Pokémon regions.]]
[[File:Pokemon to real world Orre Arizona.png|thumb|right|200px|Comparison of Orre in [[Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness]] to Arizona and northwestern Mexico, rotated 90 degrees clockwise]]

===Pokémon Ranger series===
====Fiore====
[[Fiore]] appears to be based on {{wp|Okayama Prefecture|Okayama}} and {{wp|Hyōgo Prefecture}}s, as well as {{wp|Shōdoshima|Shōdo Island}} in {{wp|Kagawa Prefecture}}, in {{wp|Japan}}.

{| class="roundy" style="background:#2E83D2; margin-left:10px; margin-bottom:10px; border:3px solid #81807A"
|-
! style="background:#6AA9E4; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Pokémon world
! style="background:#6AA9E4" colspan="2" | Specific location
! style="background:#6AA9E4; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Notes
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Ringtown]]
| {{wp|Kurashiki}}
| {{wp|Okayama Prefecture}}
| Both have a nearby river on the west, forests on the opposite side, and are close to the coast. Unlike Kurashiki, however, Ringtown doesn't have a port and the river doesn't traverse the settlement.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Summerland]]
| {{jwp|福田港 (香川県)|Fukuda Port}}, {{wp|Shōdoshima, Kagawa|Shōdoshima}}, {{wp|Shōdoshima|Shōdo Island}}
| {{wp|Kagawa Prefecture}}
| In-game, a tourist references how the S.S. Fiore ferries to Summerland. Similarly, there is a ferry route connecting Fukuda to Himeji. A resort in Summerland is also referenced, and present in Fukuda.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Fall City]]
| {{wp|Himeji}}
| {{wp|Hyōgo Prefecture}}
| A port city lying east from Kurashiki. Similarly to Fall City, it has water streams running through.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Wintown]]
| {{wp|Mimasaka}}
| {{wp|Okayama Prefecture}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Fiore Temple]]
| {{wp|Himeji Castle}}
| {{wp|Hyōgo Prefecture}}
| The best known of the Japanese castles
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Olive Jungle]]
| {{wp|Shōdoshima|Shōdo Island}}
| {{wp|Kagawa Prefecture}}
| A popular tourist destination, this island saw the first successful olive cultivation in Japan, hence its nickname Olive Island.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Lyra Forest]]
| Forest areas neighboring {{wp|Asakuchi}}
| {{wp|Okayama Prefecture}}
|
|-style="background:#fff"
| [[Sekra Range]]
| {{wp|Mount Hyōno}}/{{wp|Hiruzen}}
| {{wp|Okayama Prefecture}}
|
|-style="background:#fff"
| [[Kisara Plain]]
| {{wp|Yoshiokakawakita Park}}, possibly also other parks.
| {{wp|Kurashiki}}, {{wp|Okayama Prefecture}}
|
|-style="background:#fff"
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybl|5px}}" | Kalakka Desert (Unused)
| {{wp|Tottori Sand Dunes}}
| {{wp|Tottori Prefecture}}
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" | Vast desert dunes in the north of Kurashiki and Okayama that make up the only desert badland in Japan.
|}{{-}}

====Almia====
[[File:Pokémon to real world Almia Oshima.png|thumb|200px|Comparison of Almia to Oshima and northern Honshu]]
[[Almia]] appears to be based on {{wp|Oshima Subprefecture|Oshima}} and {{wp|Hiyama Subprefectures}} within the {{wp|Oshima Peninsula}} in {{wp|Hokkaido}} and the very northern part of {{wp|Honshu}} in Japan.

{| class="roundy" style="background:#2E83D2; margin-left:10px; margin-bottom:10px; border:3px solid #81807A"
|-
! style="background:#6AA9E4; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Pokémon world
! style="background:#6AA9E4" colspan="2" | Specific location
! style="background:#6AA9E4" colspan="2" | Prefecture (subprefecture)
! style="background:#6AA9E4; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Notes
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Chicole Village]]
| {{jwp|松前町 (北海道)|松前町}}
| {{wp|Matsumae, Hokkaido|Matsumae}}
| {{wp|北海道}}（{{jwp|渡島総合振興局}}）
| {{wp|Hokkaido}} ({{wp|Oshima Subprefecture|Oshima}})
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Vientown]]
| {{jwp|江差町}}
| {{wp|Esashi, Hokkaido (Hiyama)|Esashi}}
| {{wp|北海道}}（{{jwp|檜山振興局}}）
| {{wp|Hokkaido}} ({{wp|Hiyama Subprefecture|Hiyama}})
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Vien Forest]]
| {{jwp|函館山}}
| {{wp|Mount Hakodate}}
| {{wp|北海道}}（{{jwp|渡島総合振興局}}）
| {{wp|Hokkaido}} ({{wp|Oshima Subprefecture|Oshima}})
| Mount Hakodate attracts tourists for its view of Hakodate. Similarly, the scenic point Lookout Ridge in Vien Forest gives a view of Vientown.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Pueltown]]
| {{jwp|函館市}}
| {{wp|Hakodate, Hokkaido|Hakodate}}
| {{wp|北海道}}（{{jwp|渡島総合振興局}}）
| {{wp|Hokkaido}} ({{wp|Oshima Subprefecture|Oshima}})
| Hakodate and Pueltown are both port cities.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Altru Park]]
| {{jwp|五稜郭|五稜郭公園}}
| {{wp|Goryōkaku|Goryōkaku Park}}
| {{wp|北海道}}（{{jwp|渡島総合振興局}}）
| {{wp|Hokkaido}} ({{wp|Oshima Subprefecture|Oshima}})
| The Goryōkaku Tower overlooks Goryōkaku Park.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Altru Building]] [[Altru Tower]]
| {{jwp|五稜郭タワー}}
| Goryōkaku Tower
| {{wp|北海道}}（{{jwp|渡島総合振興局}}）
| {{wp|Hokkaido}} ({{wp|Oshima Subprefecture|Oshima}})
| The observation tower, which overlooks Goryōkaku Park, was rebuilt from 2004 to 2006.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Peril Cliffs]]
| {{jwp|五稜郭タワー}}
| {{wp|Mount Yōtei}}
| {{wp|北海道}}（{{jwp|羊蹄山}}）
| {{wp|Hokkaido}} ({{wp|Shiribeshi Subprefecture|Shiribeshi}})
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Boyleland]]
| {{jwp|むつ市}}
| {{wp|Mutsu, Aomori|Mutsu}}
| {{jwp|青森県}}
| {{wp|Aomori Prefecture|Aomori}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Volcano Cave|Boyleland Volcano]]
| {{jwp|恐山}}
| {{wp|Mount Osore}}
| {{jwp|青森県}}
| {{wp|Aomori Prefecture|Aomori}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Chroma Highlands]]
| {{jwp|尻別岳}}
| {{wp|Mount Shiribetsu}}
| {{wp|北海道}}（{{jwp|後志総合振興局}}）
| {{wp|Hokkaido}} ({{wp|Shiribeshi Subprefecture|Shiribeshi}})
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Shiver Camp]]
| {{jwp|ニセコ町}}
| {{wp|Niseko, Hokkaido|Niseko}}
| {{wp|北海道}}（{{jwp|後志総合振興局}}）
| {{wp|Hokkaido}} ({{wp|Shiribeshi Subprefecture|Shiribeshi}})
| Niseko is home to multiple ski resorts.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Oil Field Hideout]]
| {{jwp|青函トンネル}}
| {{wp|Seikan Tunnel|Underwater Seikan Tunnel}}
| {{wp|津軽海峡}}
| {{wp|Tsugaru Strait}}
| The underwater Seikan Tunnel is a railway tunnel connecting Hokkaido Prefecture and Aomori Prefectures. The track level is about 100 m (330 ft) below the seabed.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Haruba Village]]
| {{jwp|青森市}}
| {{wp|Aomori, Aomori|Aomori}}
| {{jwp|青森県}}
| {{wp|Aomori Prefecture|Aomori}}
| The Port of Aomori operates ferries to {{wp|Hakodate, Hokkaido|Hakodate}}.
|-
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Haruba Desert]]
| {{jwp|猿ヶ森砂丘}}
| {{wp|Sarugamori Sand Dunes|Sarugamori Sand Dunes}}
| {{jwp|青森県}}
| {{wp|Aomori Prefecture|Aomori}}
| One of the few deserts in Japan, and the only in the north of the country. In real life, the zone is not an arid yellow sand desert like the games, instead it is a zone of sand dunes adjacent to a beach.
|-
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Hippowdon Temple]]
| {{jwp|三内丸山遺跡}}
| {{wp|Sannai-Maruyama_Site|Sannai-Maruyama Site}}
| {{jwp|青森県}}
| {{wp|Aomori Prefecture|Aomori}}
| An archaeological site and museum in Aomori Prefecture containing the ruins of a very large {{wp|Jōmon period}} settlement. The presence of the Yellow Gem in Hippowdon Temple that {{p|Cresselia}} protects may be a reference to the extensive jewelry and pottery treasures of the Jōmon people.
|-
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Almia Castle]]
| {{jwp|志苔館}}
| {{wp|Shinoridate|Shinoridate}} and other castles of the peninsula
| {{jwp|青森県}}
| {{wp|Aomori Prefecture|Aomori}}
| Shinoridate is a destoryed fort near Hakodate. It is famous for the ''Shinori Hoard'', a treasure of ninety-three golden coins from various parts of Asia (in reference to the treasure of the Almia castle). Another possible inspiration could be the {{wp|Matsumae Castle|Matsumae Castle}}, the only traditional Edo-period Japanese castle in Hokkaido, and the only in perfect condition, much like the Almia castle.
|-
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybl|5px}}" | [[Capture Arena]]
| style="background:#fff" | {{jwp|渡島大島}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{wp|Oshima (Hokkaido)|Ōshima}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{wp|北海道}}（{{jwp|渡島総合振興局}}）
| style="background:#fff" | {{wp|Hokkaido}} ({{wp|Oshima Subprefecture|Oshima}})
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" | The uninhabited island is also a nature preserve.
|}{{-}}

====Oblivia====
[[File:Pokémon to real world Oblivia Oki Islands.png|thumb|200px|Comparison of Oblivia to the Oki Islands]]
[[Oblivia]] may be based on the {{wp|Oki Islands}} in {{wp|Shimane Prefecture}}.

{| class="roundy" style="background:#2E83D2; margin-left:10px; margin-bottom:10px; border:3px solid #81807A"
|-
! style="background:#6AA9E4; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Pokémon world
! style="background:#6AA9E4" colspan="2" | Specific location
! style="background:#6AA9E4" colspan="2" | Prefecture
! style="background:#6AA9E4; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Notes
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Dolce Island]]
| Kamijima Island
| 神島
| {{wp|Shimane Prefecture}}
| {{jwp|島根県}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Renbow Island]]
| {{wp|Chiburijima}}
| {{jwp|知夫里島}}
| {{wp|Shimane Prefecture}}
| {{jwp|島根県}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Cocona Village]]
| {{wp|Chibu, Shimane|Chibu Village}}
| {{jwp|知夫村}}
| {{wp|Shimane Prefecture}}
| {{jwp|島根県}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Mitonga Island]]
| {{wp|Nakanoshima (Shimane)|Nakanoshima}}
| {{jwp|中ノ島 (島根県)|中ノ島}}
| {{wp|Shimane Prefecture}}
| {{jwp|島根県}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Faldera Island]]
| Matsushima Island
| 松島
| {{wp|Shimane Prefecture}}
| {{jwp|島根県}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Sophian Island]]
| {{wp|Dōgojima|Dōgojima}}
| {{jwp|島後}}
| {{wp|Shimane Prefecture}}
| {{jwp|島根県}}
| It is the largest island of the Oki archipelago and the one that contains the capital of the islands.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Aqua Resort]]
| {{wp|Okinoshima, Shimane|Okinoshima City}}
| {{jwp|隠岐の島町}}
| {{wp|Shimane Prefecture}}
| {{jwp|島根県}}
| Both are the largest and most populated cities of their islands. Both are port cities.
|-
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Mt. Sorbet]]
| Mt. Daimanji
| {{jwp|大満寺山}}
| {{wp|Shimane Prefecture}}
| {{jwp|島根県}}
| Both are the tallest mountains in the islands.
|-
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Tilikule Island]]
| {{wp|Takeshima}}
| {{jwp|竹島}}
| {{wp|Shimane Prefecture}}
| {{jwp|島根県}}
|
|
|}{{-}}

===New Pokémon Snap===
====Lental====
[[File:Pokémon to real world Lental Galapagos Islands.jpg|thumb|200px|Comparison of Lental to the Galapagos Islands]]
[[Lental]] may be based on the {{wp|Galápagos Islands}} in {{wp|Ecuador}}. The Galápagos Islands have a notable variety of {{wp|endemic species}} and have been historically important to ecological research, due to the different island's distinct environment and wildlife, most famously in the {{wp|Second voyage of HMS Beagle}}. Lental's islands seem to exaggerate this distinctiveness, presenting several very distinct environments in just a small selection of islands.

{| class="roundy" style="background:#2E83D2; margin-left:10px; margin-bottom:10px; border:3px solid #81807A"
|-
! style="background:#6AA9E4; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Pokémon world
! style="background:#6AA9E4" | Specific location
! style="background:#6AA9E4; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Notes
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Florio Island]]
| {{wp|Floreana Island}}
| Name sounds evocatively similar, and its shape is not unlike the real island.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Belusylva Island]]
| {{wp|Isabela Island (Galápagos)|Isabela Island}}
| A similar case of being reminiscent of the real island's shape and name.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Maricopia Islands]]
| {{wp|Tortuga Bay|Santa Cruz Island (Galápagos)}}
| This bay has a preserved beach, notable for its abundance of aquatic life.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Voluca Island]]
| {{wp|Santiago Island (Galápagos)|Santiago Island}}
| Similar to what appears in the map art for Voluca, this island contains two overlapping volcanoes.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Durice Island]]
| {{wp|San Cristóbal Island|San Cristóbal Island}}
| Contains the freshwater lake {{wp|El Junco}}. It is made up of several extinct volcanoes.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Aurus Island]]
| {{wp|Española Island|Española Island}}
| One of the smaller islands, the most southerly, and is thought one of the oldest geographically.
|}
{{-}}

===Pokkén Tournament===
====Ferrum====
[[File:Pokémon to real world Ferrum Iriomote.png|thumb|200px|Comparison of Iriomote Island to the Ferrum region]]
[[Ferrum]] may be based on {{wp|Iriomote Island}}, the largest of the {{wp|Yaeyama Islands}} in {{wp|Okinawa Prefecture}}, Japan. It seems to have had some of its islands brought closer into the mainland, and also submerged and merged parts of the geography. Alternatively, it may also be derived from {{wp|Sardinia}} as some of the landscape and architecture have similar features.

{| class="roundy" style="background:#2E83D2; margin-left:10px; margin-bottom:10px; border:3px solid #81807A"
|-
! style="background:#6AA9E4; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Pokémon world
! style="background:#6AA9E4" | Specific location
! style="background:#6AA9E4; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Notes
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Old Ferrum Town]]
| {{wp|Nuxis}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Techne City]]
| {{wp|Cagliari}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Tellur Town]]
| {{wp|Dolianova}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Ferrum Stadium]]
| {{wp|Pineta di Musei}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Selen Island]]
| {{wp|San Pietro Island}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Neos City]]
| {{wp|Teulada, Sardinia|Teulada}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Haunted House]]
| Villaggio Minerario Asproni
| An old mining village outside the city of {{wp|Iglesias, Sardinia|Iglesias}}, now an open-air museum.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Thalia Beach]]
| Cavoli Island
|
|}
===Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness===
====Orre====
[[Orre]] is based on {{wp|Phoenix, Arizona|Phoenix}}, {{wp|Arizona}}, {{wp|United States}}.<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20031204082736/https://www.nintendo.co.jp/nom/0311/soft/interv01.html</ref> Many areas in Orre bear similarities to other locations in Arizona and northern Mexico as well, though it's not confirmed if these are intentional references.

{| class="roundy" style="background:#2E83D2; margin-left:10px; margin-bottom:10px; border:3px solid #81807A"
|-
! style="background:#6AA9E4; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Pokémon world
! style="background:#6AA9E4; width:15%" | Specific location
! style="background:#6AA9E4" | State
! style="background:#6AA9E4; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Notes
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Phenac City]]
| {{wp|Phoenix, Arizona|Phoenix}}
| {{wp|Arizona}}
| Both cities were founded when a man brought water to the city and have similar names.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Pyrite Town]]
| {{wp|Aguila}}/{{wp|Wickenburg}}/{{wp|Sonoyta}}
| {{wp|Arizona}}/{{wp|Sonora}}
| Likely inspired by local smuggling routes and former mining towns such as Aguila and Wickenburg, or Sonoyta, Sonora, commonly used to illegally cross the border.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Agate Village]]
| {{wp|Flagstaff, Arizona|Flagstaff}}
| {{wp|Arizona}}
| Agate Village is a mountainous, forested town, much like Flagstaff, which is located in the mountains north of Phoenix and has some prominent alpine forests due to its higher elevation.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Gateon Port]]
| {{wp|Lake Havasu City, Arizona|Lake Havasu City}}/{{wp|San Felipe, Baja California|San Felipe}}
| {{wp|Arizona}}/{{wp|Baja California}}
| Lake Havasu City and Gateon Port are towns located beside large bodies of water near Phoenix and Phenac, and are home to lighthouses and unusual bridges. Could also be based on San Felipe, Baja California, another coastal port town with square docks, which matches Gateon Port's location geographically, assuming Orre in [[Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness|Pokémon XD]] is equivalent to the area around the {{wp|Gulf of California}} rotated 90 degrees clockwise (seen in the picture to the right).
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Mt. Battle]]
| {{wp|San Francisco volcanic field}}
| {{wp|Arizona}}
| An area of dormant volcanoes in Arizona, located near Flagstaff. May be specifically based on {{wp|Humphreys Peak}}, the highest peak of the range, or any of the nearby {{wp|cinder cone}}s in the area.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Outskirt Stand]]
| {{wp|Black Canyon City, Arizona}}
| {{wp|Arizona}}
| A small town north of Phoenix that was once a popular stop along the railway from Phoenix to Prescott. The home of two of its first inhabitants still stands, as a historical site, that bear a passing resemblance to the rubble behind the traincar.
|- style="background:#fff"
| style="{{roundybl|5px}}" | [[Citadark Isle]]
| {{wp|Isla Ángel de la Guarda}}/{{wp|Isla San Luis}}
| {{wp|Baja California}}
| style="{{roundybr|5px}}" | Isla San Luis could be the primary inspiration for the design of the island, including the large volcanic center. Isla Ángel de la Guarda is home to unique species of snake and mouse, as well as a diverse range of other animal life, which may have inspired the amount of [[Shadow Pokémon]] encountered on the island.
|}
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==In the anime==
===Landscapes===
{{incomplete|section|needs=Missing notes}}
While the above locations are meant to correspond to the different regions around the real-life world, great liberties were taken with the design of their landscapes. Some of the designers have admitted to drawing inspiration from real-world locations outside their stated real-world counterparts, especially with locations depicted in [[Pokémon movie]]s.

{| style="background:#2E83D2; margin-left:10px; margin-bottom:10px; {{roundy}}; border:3px solid #81807A"
|-
! colspan="2" style="background:#6AA9E4; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Pokémon world
! style="background:#6AA9E4" colspan="2" | Inspiration
! style="background:#6AA9E4; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Notes
|- style="background:#fff"
! [[File:Porta Vista.png|Porta Vista|200px]]
| [[Porta Vista]]
| {{wp|Acapulco}}
| {{wp|Guerrero}}, {{wp|Mexico}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
! [[File:Scissor Street.png|Scissor Street|200px]]
| [[Scissor Street]]
| {{wp|Ginza}}/{{wp|Harajuku}}
| {{wp|Tokyo}}, {{wp|Japan}}
| The main building of Scissor Street (the one pictured), bears a resemblance to the {{wp|Wako (retailer)|Wako Store}} building in Ginza. Harajuku is famous for being the birthplace of many Japanese retro fashion styles, including ''Shinorer'', the one represented in the episode with Misty.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[File:Neon Town.png|Neon Town|230px]]
| [[Neon Town]]
| {{wp|Las Vegas}}
| {{wp|Nevada}}, {{wp|United States}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[File:Hollywood.png|Hollywood|230px]]
| [[Hollywood]]
| {{wp|Hollywood}}, {{wp|Los Angeles}}
| {{wp|California}}, {{wp|United States}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[File:Pummelo Island.png|Pummelo Island|230px]]
| [[Pummelo Island]]
| {{wp|Oban}}
| {{wp|Argyll and Bute}}, {{wp|Scotland}}
| Both are resort towns in an island, the houses of Pummelo had the same English architecture of Oban. The [[Pummelo Stadium]] is modeled after the {{wp|McCaig's Tower}}, a folly colosseum in a hill of the city.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[File:Big Town.png|Big Town|230px]]
| [[Big Town]]
| {{wp|Boston}}
| {{wp|Massachusetts}}, {{wp|United States}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[File:Whitestone.png|Whitestone|230px]]
| [[Whitestone]]
| {{wp|Ostuni}}
| {{wp|Apulia}}, {{wp|Italy}}
| The white façade of Whitestone's buildings is reminiscent of the medieval town of Ostuni. Domed buildings in the background draw inspiration from Byzantine architecture, and flat-roofed structures mirror those of the city's real-world counterpart.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[File:Mount Quena.png|Mount Quena|230px]]
| [[Mount Quena]]
| {{wp|Uluru}}
| {{wp|Northern Territory}}, {{wp|Australia}}
| The name of Mount Quena in Japanese is ''Pures Rock'', in reference to ''Ayers Rock'', the obsolete name of Uluru. Both places are mounts made of red stone and located in the middle of a desolate part of their respective countries and like Uluru, Mount Quena is connected with purity and mystical traditions.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[File:Devon Corporation anime.png|Devon Corporation|230px]]
| [[Devon Corporation]]
| {{wp|Toronto City Hall}}
| {{wp|Ontario}}, {{wp|Canada}}
| In the animated series, the Devon Corporation largely resembles the Toronto City Hall, the seats of the Toronto Municipal Government.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[File:Sootopolis City anime.png|Sootopolis City|230px]]
| [[Sootopolis City]]
| {{wp|Santorini}}
| {{wp|Greece}}
| Like its name suggests, Sootopolis City was created in the wake of a volcanic eruption (per {{game2|Ruby|Sapphire|Emerald}}). Similarly, Santorini, Greece, was formed as a result of the {{wp|Minoan eruption}}, which left a large {{wp|caldera}} that filled with water and became the current bay in the center of the island of Santorini (Thera). Both cities boast landscapes dotted with vivid blue domed roofs.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[File:Solaceon Ruins anime.png|Solaceon Ruins|230px]]
| [[Solaceon Ruins]]
| {{wp|Ziggurat of Ur}}
| {{wp|Dhi Qar Governorate}}, {{wp|Iraq}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[File:Area 28.png|Area 28|230px]]
| [[Area 28]]
| {{wp|Area 51}}
| {{wp|Nevada}}, {{wp|United States}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[File:Odyssey Village.png|Odyssey Village|230px]]
| [[Odyssey Village]]
| {{wp|Circuit de Nevers Magny-Cours}}
| {{wp|Bourgogne-Franche-Comté}}, {{wp|France}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybl|5px}}" |[[File:Kalos Canyon.png|Kalos Canyon|230px]]
| style="background:#fff" | [[Kalos Canyon]]
| style="background:#fff" | {{wp|Grand Canyon}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{wp|Arizona}}, {{wp|United States}}
| style="background:#fff" |
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[File:Fleurrh Showcase theater.png|Fleurrh City|230px]]
| [[Fleurrh City]] showcase theater
| {{wp|Metz}} and the Pompidou
| {{wp|Grand Est}}, {{wp|France}}
| The modernist and undulating design of the theater could be based on that of the {{wp|Centre Pompidou-Metz}}, which also operates as a theater and show room.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[File:Anistar Gym anime.png|Anistar City Gym|230px]]
| [[Anistar Gym]]
| Fusion between the {{wp|Observatory of Strasbourg}} and the {{wp|Strasbourg Mosque}}
| {{wp|Strasbourg}}, {{wp|France}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[File:Gloire City.png|Gloire City|230px]]
| [[Gloire City]]
| {{wp|Menthon-Saint-Bernard}}
| {{wp|Auvergne-Rhône-Alpes}}, {{wp|France}}
| A coastal city located on Lake Annecy, famous for its medieval {{wp|Château de Menthon-Saint-Bernard|Château}} perched above on a 660-foot-tall rock.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[File:Eclipse Castle.png|Eclipse Castle|230px]]
| [[Eclipse Castle]]
| {{wp|Hikone Castle}}
| {{wp|Shiga Prefecture}}, {{wp|Japan}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[File:Mega Island.png|Mega Island|230px]]
| [[Mega Island]]
| {{wp|Grand Bé}} and {{wp|Petit Bé}}
| {{wp|Brittany (administrative region)|Brittany}}, {{wp|France}}
| The first island is located on the outskirts of Saint-Malo but not as far out to sea as in the animated series, Petit Bé houses a fort from the year 1667, which may inspire the structures of the Mega Island.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[File:Steelbound Town.png|Steelbound Town|230px]]
| [[Steelbound Town]]
| {{wp|Hamilton, Ontario|Hamilton}}
| {{wp|Ontario}}, {{wp|Canada}}
| Like Steelbound Town, which is an industrial town that sells industrial and construction products, industrial plants in Hamilton also produce parts like for automotive, construction, infrastructure, agriculture, appliance, manufacturing, and pipe and tube industries. The steel mill speficially is based on the {{wp|ArcelorMittal Dofasco}} steel mill. The name "Steelbound Town" also closely derives from Hamilton's nickname {{wp|Steel Town}}.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[File:Marnya house.png|Marnya house|230px]]
| [[Marnya's house]]
| {{wp|Griffin House (Ancaster, Ontario)|Griffin House}}
| {{wp|Ancaster, Ontario|Ancaster}}, {{wp|Ontario}}, {{wp|Canada}}
| Located near Steelbound Town which is based on Hamilton, Canada. Marnya's house is largely shares some similarities to the surroundings of the real-life Griffin House, one of the designated {{wp|National Historic Sites of Canada}} (built in 1827) where the surrounding wild areas shares some similarities to the {{wp|Dundas Valley Conservation Area}} and the {{wp|Niagara Escarpment}}.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[File:Paldea Postal Service.png|Paldea Postal Service|230px]]
| [[Paldea Postal Service]]
| {{wp|es:Edificio de Correos de Barcelona|Correos y Telégrafos}}
| {{wp|Barcelona}}, {{wp|Spain}}
| Both buildings share the same baroque architecture, the facade with columns and four corner spires. Both buildings act as postal offices.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[File:Uiro City.png|Uirō City|230px]]
| [[Uirō City]]
| {{wp|Miami}}
| {{wp|Florida}}, {{wp|United States}}
| The hotel in that photo largely resembles one of the entrances of the {{wp|Mount Sinai Medical Center (Miami)|Mount Sinai Medical Center in Miami Beach.}}
|}

====In the movies====
{| style="background:#2E83D2; margin-left:10px; margin-bottom:10px; {{roundy}}; border:3px solid #81807A"
|-
! style="background:#6AA9E4; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Movie
! style="background:#6AA9E4" colspan="2" | Pokémon world
! style="background:#6AA9E4" colspan="2" | Inspiration
! style="background:#6AA9E4; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Notes
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[M05]]
| [[File:Alto Mare sunrise.png|Alto Mare|230px]]
| [[Alto Mare]]
| {{wp|Venice}}
| {{wp|Italy}}
| Venice's canals were likely an inspiration for the canals of Alto Mare.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[M06]]
| [[File:Forina.png|Forina|230px]]
| [[Forina]]
| {{wp|Wulingyuan}}
| {{wp|Hunan}}, {{wp|China}}
| Wulingyuan is famed for its {{wp|karst}} formation of quartzite sandstone pillars. Along with its ravines and gorges, the site also features a lush forest, several caves, natural bridges, and waterfalls.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[M07]]
| [[File:LaRousse City from above.png|LaRousse City|230px]]
| [[LaRousse City]]
| {{wp|Vancouver}}
| {{wp|British Columbia}}, {{wp|Canada}}
| Vancouver is the city with the best quality of life in Canada and like the movie, it is a very ecological city with many scientific facilities.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[M08]]
| [[File:Cameran Palace.png|Cameran Palace|230px]]
| [[Cameran Palace]]
| {{wp|Neuschwanstein Castle}}
| {{wp|Bavaria}}, {{wp|Germany}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[M09]]
| [[File:Samiya.png|Samiya|230px]]
| [[Samiya]]
| {{wp|Atlantis}} and {{wp|Colosseum}}
| {{wp|Rome}}, {{wp|Italy}}
| The design of the exterior of Samiya also closely resembles the Colosseum in Rome, one of Italy's most famous ancient landmarks.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[M10]]
| [[File:Alamos Town closer view.png|Alamos Town|230px]]
| [[Alamos Town]]
| {{wp|Ronda}}, {{wp|Granada}} and {{wp|Barcelona}}
| {{wp|Andalusia}} and {{wp|Catalonia}}, {{wp|Spain}}
| The town's name is the Spanish word for {{wp|Populus|poplar}}, ''álamos''. The town itself is based on {{wp|Ronda}}, notably its gorge and the Tajo de Ronda, which links both sides of the city. The [[Space-Time Towers]] and Godey's Garden are modeled after Barcelona’s {{wp|Sagrada Família}} and {{wp|Park Güell}}, both designed by {{wp|Antoni Gaudí}}. [[Godey]] and his descendant {{OBP|Tonio|M10}} are likewise inspired by the Catalan architect. Alamos Town also features {{wp|Flamenco}} dancing, a tradition characteristic of Spain, particularly {{wp|Andalucia}}. The surrounding mountains are inspired by the {{wp|Sierra Nevada (Spain)|Sierra Nevada}} in Granada and the [[wp:es:Macizo de Montserrat|Macizo de Montserrat]] in {{wp|Catalonia}}.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[M11]]
| [[File:Teni Village.png|Ten'i Village|230px]]
| [[Ten'i Village]]
| {{wp|Geiranger}}
| {{wp|Sunnmøre}}, {{wp|Norway}}
| A village that was nearly destroyed by a {{wp|glacier}}. It is based on a town in Norway, which is threatened by the possibility of the mountain Åkerneset eroding into the {{wp|fjord}}, causing a {{wp|Tsunami#Landslides|landslide-induced tsunami}}.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[M12]]
| [[File:Michina Town.png|Michina Town|230px]]
| [[Michina Town]]
| {{wp|Meteora}}
| {{wp|Thessaly}}, {{wp|Greece}}
| Its landscape, which is filled with towering rock formations, resembles Meteora. Also, the architecture of the temples resembles that of ancient Greek temples.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[M13]]
| [[File:Crown City.png|Crown City|230px]]
| [[Crown City]]
| {{wp|Amsterdam}}
| {{wp|The Netherlands}}
| Its modern buildings are based on the many new buildings in parts of Amsterdam, and the [[Pokémon Baccer World Cup|Pokémon Baccer]] stadium is based on the {{wp|Amsterdam Arena|Arena}}, the city's local football stadium.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[M14]]
| [[File:Eindoak Town.png|Eindoak Town|230px]]
| [[Eindoak Town]]
| {{wp|Gourdon, Alpes-Maritimes|Gourdon}}, {{wp|Tourrettes-sur-Loup}} and {{wp|Mont Saint-Michel}}
| {{wp|France}}
|
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[M15]]
| [[File:Roshan City.png|Roshan City|230px]]
| [[Roshan City]]
| {{wp|Shinjuku, Tokyo|Shinjuku}}, {{wp|Shinagawa, Tokyo|Shinagawa}}, and Tennouzu Isle
| {{wp|Tokyo}}, {{wp|Japan}}
| The Roshan tower is inspired by the {{wp|Tokyo Skytree}}.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[M16]]
| [[File:New Tork City.png|New Tork City|230px]]
| [[New Tork City]]
| {{wp|New York City}}
| {{wp|New York}}, {{wp|United States}}
| A giant sprawling city with many skyscrapers, a large park in the middle of the city resembling {{wp|Central Park}}, and a similar name. New Tork City as seen from above also resembles New York City's shape.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[M17]]
| [[File:Avignon Town.png|Avignon Town|230px]]
| [[Avignon Town]]
| {{wp|Quebec City}}
| {{wp|Quebec}}, {{wp|Canada}}
| The castle of Avignon Town, however, is based on the {{wp|Château Frontenac}}, a large hotel that overlooks {{wp|Quebec City}} much like Avignon Town's castle overlooks the town. The name "Avignon Town" however, comes from the {{wp|Avignon|French commune in the real world}}.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[M17]]
| [[File:Orsay City.png|Orsay City|230px]]
| [[Orsay City]]
| {{wp|Toronto}}
| {{wp|Ontario}}, {{wp|Canada}}
| A city in southern Ontario famous for its port and city skylines. Like Toronto, Orsay City has a large port as well. The large mall in the city is based on the Toronto Eaton Centre, a large mall in the center of city.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[M17]]
| [[File:Allearth Forest.png|Allearth Forest|230px]]
| [[Allearth Forest]]
| {{wp|Niagara Falls}}
| {{wp|Canada}} and {{wp|United States}}
| Like several elements of the movie based in Canada, the design of the waterfalls is quite similar to the Niagara Falls which are recognizable as vertical falls and two large walls of water.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[M18]]
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybl|5px}}" |[[File:Dahara City.png|Dahara City|230px]]
| style="background:#fff" | [[Dahara City]]
| style="background:#fff" | {{wp|Dubai}} and {{wp|Abu Dhabi}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{wp|United Arab Emirates}}
| style="background:#fff" | Dubai is located within the {{wp|Arabian Desert}} and houses some of the world's tallest skyscrapers. The highest skyscraper is based on the {{wp|Burj Khalifa}}.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[M19]]
| [[File:Azoth Kingdom.png|Azoth Kingdom|230px]]
| [[Azoth Kingdom]]
| {{wp|Carcassonne}}
| {{wp|Occitanie}}, {{wp|France}}
| Occitanie is an ancient city famous for being the meeting point between the Mediterranean and the towns of the Massif Central (the inspiration for the Nebel Plateau). It is also recognizable by its enormous walls of the citadel.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[M19]]
| [[File:Nebel Plateau.png|Nebel Plateau|230px]]
| [[Nebel Plateau]]
| {{wp|Massif Central}} and {{wp|Chaîne des Puys}}
| {{wp|France}}
| This area is similar to the Auvergne volcanoes in the {{wp|Massif Central}}, which is a highland region containing large mountain ranges and vast plateaus full of greenery and rich biodiversity.
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[M21]]
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybl|5px}}" |[[File:Fula City.png|Fula City|230px]]
| style="background:#fff" | [[Fula City]]
| style="background:#fff" | {{wp|San Francisco}} and {{wp|Los Angeles}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{wp|California}}, {{wp|United States}}
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" |
|}

==In the manga==
===Pokémon Adventures===
===={{MangaArc|Red, Green & Blue}}====
In ''[[PS040|A Charizard...and a Champion]]'', a reference to Greek people was added in the English versions by [[Chuang Yi]] and [[VIZ Media|VIZ]], where {{adv|Blue}} says this: ''"As the Greek said, 'give me a long enough lever... and I can move the Earth'!"'' This quote is not present in the Japanese version.

==In the TCG==
The TCG is home to a few specific regions, which are more loosely based than the game regions seem to be, opting instead to provide an overall impression of a real world region. Nonetheless, their motifs and inspirations still seem somewhat coherent to real world geography, and like the games, use artistic licence to produce art for the sets that provides an overall story to the visuals.

===[[Puzzle Continent]]===
[[File:Puzzle continent detailed.png|thumb|A map of the continent - showing the landscape from the bottom penninsula, pointing north]]
The e-card sets, such as [[Aquapolis]] and [[Skyridge]] are constituted of four Japanese sets which included promotional material revealing the [[Puzzle Continent]] as their setting. Judging by the overall appearance and several other factors, such as geographical features and certain relics and motifs, the continent could be said to be an amalgamated {{wp|South America}}, which has either been condensed and rearranged, or not represented to scale on the map. Much of the continent seems to be centered around the {{wp|Andean States}}, as the map points north from what looks to be a small peninsula, potentially based on the {{wp|Tierra del Fuego}}. Material released on the topic does claim that the map is a work of imagination on the part of its creator.

{| class="roundy" style="background:#2E83D2; margin-left:10px; margin-bottom:10px; border:3px solid #81807A"
|-
! style="background:#6AA9E4; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Pokémon world
! style="background:#6AA9E4" colspan="2" | Specific location
! style="background:#6AA9E4; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Notes
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[The Town on No Map (TCG)]]
| {{wp|Buenos Aires}}
| {{wp|Argentina}}
| Aside from the coastline being similar for both, the {{wp|Art Deco}} clock tower and surrounding buildings, seen in some concept art as well as on many cards such as [[Growlithe (Aquapolis 80)]] and both [[Umbreon (Aquapolis 41)]] and [[Umbreon (Aquapolis H29)]] resemble the {{wp|Torre Monumental}} clock tower in Buenos Aires. The red {{wp|double-decker bus}} seen in that last card could also allude to the cities use of such buses, and the numerous canals could be a reference to {{wp|Tigre, Buenos Aires}}, just outside the main city, or the {{wp|Puerto Madero}} waterfront area. The power plant, which seems to be relatively close to the town's port might be an allusion to the Dr. Carlos Givogri power plant, found likewise inside the {{wp|Port of Buenos Aires}}. Furthermore, the lighthouse from the set somewhat resembles the one on top of The Yacht Club Argentino, in Puerto Madero, but might also be loosely based on {{wp|Palacio Barolo}}.

|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Undersea Ruins (Aquapolis 138)]]
| {{wp|Tulum}}
| {{wp|Mexico}}
| The ruins are the only truly coastal {{wp|Pre-Columbian}} ruins, and similarly to the location on the [[Puzzle Continent]], situated on a peninsula, namely the {{wp|Yucatán peninsula}}, which is at the top end of the real world continent. Therefore, the strongest candidate for inspiration of a real place for these ruins is probably this site; however, due to the ancient Greek style of architecture and unmatching geographical location, it could also be a nod towards theories of {{wp|Atlantis}} being located near {{wp|South America}}.

|- style="background:#fff"
| Giant Tree [[Flaaffy (Aquapolis 47)]]
| {{wp|Los Alerces National Park}}
| {{wp|Argentina}}
| This park could be one of a number of possible inspirations. It is known for its enormous {{wp|Fitzroya}} trees, one of which, known as Alerzal Milenario, is 57 metres (187 ft) tall, 2.2 metres (7.2 ft) in diameter, and 2,600 years old. The park is also close to the border of Chile, and the La union region, where other such massive specimens live such as El Gran Abuelo, which has an 11 m (36 ft) wide tree trunk.

|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Apricorn Forest (Aquapolis 118)]]
| {{wp|Bosque Andino Patagónico}}
| {{wp|Argentina}}
| This forest full of {{wp|Apricorns}} might be an allusion to the patagonian andean forests, based on its geography. These forests are very dominated by tree growth, and include many fruiting trees, particularly berries such as the {{wp|Berberis microphylla}}, {{wp|Aristotelia chilensis}} {{wp|Gevuina}} and many more.

|- style="background:#fff"
| Crop Circles [[Exeggcute (Aquapolis 77)]]
| {{wp|Moray (Inca ruin)}}
| {{wp|Peru}}
| Whilst not strictly speaking a crop circle, the Incan ruins of Moray does closely resemble the shape shown on the cards. The concentric circles were used for farming purposes, as terraced crops would be irrigated and lower crops would be out of the sunlight. Alternatively, it could be based on {{wp|geoglyphs}} found in after deforestation in the {{wp|Amazon Rainforest}} which are circular.

|- style="background:#fff"
| Geoglyph [[Ho-Oh (Skyridge 149)]]
| {{wp|Nazca Lines}}
| {{wp|Peru}}
| These geoglyphs are the most obvious reference to a real location, and indicate this area of the continent takes inspiration from {{wp|Peru}}. The particular reference to [[Ho-Oh]] and appearance of the {{wp|geoglyph}} is actually a very close match to a particular formation, known as 'The Condor'.

|- style="background:#fff"
| Split Earth [[Pineco (Skyridge 85)]]
| {{wp|Colca Canyon}}
| {{wp|Peru}}
| An enormous {{wp|canyon}} in Peru, this incredibly deep formation brings to mind a tremendous split in the earth. It is 43 miles long, and is up to 2000 m (6600 ft) deep at its deepest points. The massive crack in the earth featured in this set is located at the bottom and travels down a huge canyon, which might have been an expression of the vastness of this real world canyon.

|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Underground Lake (Skyridge 141)]]
| {{wp|Sima Pumacocha}}
| {{wp|Peru}}
| Underneath the great split, there is said to be an underground lake where [[fossil Pokémon]] still live. Not long before the set released, this cave, not too far from the Colca Canyon, was thought to be the world's deepest, at places reaching 638 m (2093 ft) deep. It contains an underground stream and many {{wp|Ammonites}} were found in its various tunnels.

|- style="background:#fff"
| Crater Village [[Meowth (Skyridge 78)]]
| {{wp|Huacachina}}
| {{wp|Peru}}
| A very convincing inspiration for the crater village in the set - based around an {{wp|oasis}} in an area close to the Nazca lines. Even the simple buildings with a white square appearance are reminiscent of the real village, and the {{wp|sand dune}} around the real location mirrors that crater of the set's village.

|- style="background:#fff"
| Stone Circle [[Kadabra (Skyridge 69)]]
| {{wp|Sillustani}}
| {{wp|Peru}}
| One of the few stone circles found in South America, these jagged rocks in a circle match well with the rectangular shaped {{wp|menhir}} on the card art. This shape was significant in determining their pre-{{wp|Incan}} origins, as the {{wp|Qulla}} people used rectangular edges whilst Inca tended not to. The stone circles were actually the foundations of a tower-like tomb called a {{wp|chullpa}}.

|- style="background:#fff"
| Cave Art [[Ditto (Skyridge 51)]]
| {{wp|Toquepala Caves}}
| {{wp|Peru}}
| These small caves resemble quite closely the art on the card art, even down to the caves in the card art showing the cave paintings close by the entrance; the real life caves are only around 5 m (16 ft) deep.

|- style="background:#fff"
| Geysers [[Machoke (Skyridge 38)]]
| {{wp|Puyehue-Cordón Caulle}}
| {{wp|Chile}}
| This area is an active volcanic area, that features many geyser-like {{wp|Fumeroles}} and several boiling {{wp|hot springs}}, which experienced an eruption in 2012 (long after the set was released). In particular, a landscape that looks particularly similar to this one appears in the card [[Staryu (Skyridge 103)]]. These geysers might instead be based on {{wp|El Tatio}}, which are more correctly actual {{wp|Geysers}}, but this doesn't relate much to their apparent geographical location on the map.

|- style="background:#fff"
| Caldera Lake [[Diglett (Skyridge 50)]]
| {{wp|Todos los Santos Lake}}
| {{wp|Chile}}
| A similar landscape to the card art, this lake is the result of the nearby volcanic activity from nearby {{wp|Osorno}} and {{wp|Calbuco}}, similarly to which the set's promotional material claims the water landscapes from this set are all derived from volcanic activity.

|- style="background:#fff"
| Waterfall [[Magikarp (Skyridge 75)]]
| {{wp|Petrohué Waterfalls}}
| {{wp|Chile}}
| This waterfall is part of a rapid river, claimed by promotional material to be volcanic in origin. If so, then this waterfall and rapids may be a depiction of the Petrohué river and waterfall. The river originates from the Todos los Santos Lake - and both are volcanic in nature, and this may match up to how the caldera lake might flow into the waterfall in the card art. The river contains {{wp|andesite}}, a volcanic rock, and like the river in the card art, has a fast flow - torrents can become quite dangerous in the rainy season.

|- style="background:#fff"
| [https://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/3/30/Mysterious_Moutain_birds.jpg Mysterious Mountain]
| {{wp|Torres del Paine National Park}}
| {{wp|Chile}}
| Three striking {{wp|granite}} peaks jut out, known as Torres d'Agostini, Torres Central and Torres Monzino. These closely resemble the mountains used in the set - though the set is not always consistent in how they are depicted. The promotional art tends to emphasise the spire-like formation that seems to match the Torres del Paine. In addition, the several lakes, shown on the map below the peaks, is probably a reference to the similarly located lakes in the park, such as {{wp|Grey Lake}}, {{wp|Lake Pehoé}}, {{wp|Nordenskjöld Lake}}, and {{wp|Sarmiento Lake}}. These lakes are glacial, some with small {{wp|Icebergs}} floating in them - which further matches the promotional art.

|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Ancient Ruins (Skyridge 119)]]
| {{wp|Machu Picchu}}
| {{wp|Peru}}
| The temple shown in the art for [[Moltres (Skyridge H20)]] has a stone dial shaped layout that is remincient of the {{wp|Intihuatana, Urubamba}}, a sacred stone that may have been by the {{wp|Inca}} as an {{wp|Astronomic}} clock, calendar or {{wp|sundial}}. An enigmatic site, it is associated with the Incan god of the sun, {{wp|Inti}} which may be the inspiration for the veneration the temple has for the [[legendary birds]].

|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Mystery Zone (Skyridge 137)]]
| {{wp|Diquís Spheres}}
| {{wp|Costa Rica}}
| The 'Finca 6' site hosts these mysterious {{wp|Petrospheres}} and has a layout closely matching the art for this card - even the sunken spheres are present. The spheres themselves, [[Miracle Sphere α (Skyridge 129)]], [[Miracle Sphere β (Skyridge 130)]] and [[Miracle Sphere γ (Skyridge 131)]] have their Japanese attack text reference [[Moltres]], [[Articuno]] and [[Zapdos]] respectively, further pointing to these Pokémon's significance in this region.

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===[[Holon]]===
The [[Delta Species]] based sets surrounding areas might be based in {{wp|South East Asia}}, perhaps specifically the {{wp|Philippines}}, as some of the motifs, backgrounds and aesthetics seem to indicate this as an inspiration. Whilst certain regions can be seen as likely allusions to real places, trying to identify specific locations is less clear cut.

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! style="background:#6AA9E4; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Pokémon world
! style="background:#6AA9E4" colspan="2" | Specific location
! style="background:#6AA9E4; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Notes
|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Holon]]
| {{wp|Lake Holon}}
| {{wp|T'boli, South Cotabato}}
| Similar geography; mountains surrounding a deep lake, and the card [[Latias δ (EX Holon Phantoms 11)]] even seems to show a fairly close match for the lake's shoreline and general appearance. The real lake inspires myths and legends that include a submerged advanced ancient civilisation and a great serpent beneath the depths, which might go some way to explain the Holon research tower and [[Gyarados ☆ δ (EX Holon Phantoms 102)]].

|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Crystal Guardians]]
| {{wp|Palawan}}
| {{wp|Philippines}}
| Might be based on the general region of the island {{wp|Palawan}}, the Philippine's biggest habitat of {{wp|mangroves}}, which are featured in cards such as [[Gulpin (EX Crystal Guardians 33)]] along with sandy beaches with lush forested islets such as those found on [[Crystal Beach (EX Crystal Guardians 75)]].

|- style="background:#fff"
| [[Dragon Frontiers]]
| {{wp|Luzon}}
| {{wp|Philippines}}
| With its sky island seen on cards such as [[Typhlosion δ (EX Dragon Frontiers 12)]], may be inspired by the effect the {{wp|sea of clouds}} has on {{wp|Mount Pulag}} in the mountainous region of {{wp|Benguet}}, making the peak appear to be floating above the sky. The desert scenery in the set featured on cards such as [[Mareep δ (EX Dragon Frontiers 54)]] might be evocative of the desert areas of {{wp|La Paz Sand Dunes}}, found in the region of {{wp|Laoag}}, meaning [[Dragon Frontiers]] could be located generally on the island of {{wp|Luzon}}.
|}{{-}}

==In the guidebooks==
===''The Official Pokémon Handbook''===
In ''[[The Official Pokémon Handbook|The Official Pokémon Handbook: Deluxe Edition]]'', {{p|Seel}}'s entry claims that "it lives in the freezing-cold {{wp|Arctic}}".

==Real-world mentions==
===Real-world mentions in the games===
====Locations====
[[File:Mewtwo in the City.png|thumb|260px|Mewtwo overlooking a "faraway city" at the end of ''[[Mewtwo Returns]]'']]
[[File:AG145 noodles.png|thumb|200px|Chinese noodles]]
* Prior to [[Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee!]], [[Lt. Surge]] was known as "The Lightning {{wp|United States|American}}!". In {{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}}, Pokémon Journal entries state that he "is rumored to have been a pilot while home in America."
* [[Game Freak]]'s offices are present in the [[Celadon Condominiums]], the equivalent location of their former real-world office in {{wp|Carrot Tower}}. Likewise, they have a building in [[Castelia City]], and are found on 22F, the same floor that their former offices were on in Carrot Tower.
* In the [[Generation I]] games and {{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}}, {{tc|Scientist}} Taylor in the [[Silph Co.]] building mentions an international branch of Silph Co. In English, he states that the {{wp|Tiksi}} branch of the company is "in {{wp|Russia}}n no-man's-land". In the Japanese version, he states that the Ponaya Tunguska (Japanese: ポナヤツングスカ) branch is located "deep in Russia". Ponaya Tunguska appears to be a shortened form of the transliterated name of {{wp|Podkamennaya Tunguska (rural locality)|Podkamennaya Tunguska}} in Japanese (ポドカメンナヤツングースカ).
* {{p|Mew}} was originally discovered in the jungles of the {{wp|South America}}n country [[Guyana]]. This is mentioned in logs inside of Cinnabar Island's {{ka|Pokémon Mansion}}.
* In Gold, Silver, {{v2|Crystal}}, HeartGold, and SoulSilver, {{jo|Webster}}, the guard in the [[gate]] north of [[Goldenrod City]], will give the player a {{p|Spearow}} holding mail to deliver. The Spearow is nicknamed {{wp|Kenya}}, the name of a country in {{wp|Africa}}.
* Upon losing to [[Misty]] in the original Japanese version of {{g|Stadium 2}}, one of her possible lines is "Kasumi-chan is number 1 in Japan! Just kidding." (カスミちゃん　にほんいちぃ！　なーんてね。)
* In the original Japanese version of FireRed and LeafGreen, Blaine refers to {{wp|Kyoto}}.
* Upon defeating Fisherman Bronson in the [[Sinnoh]] {{si|Battle Tower}}, he will say, "Why the emperor of fishing? It's an ancient Chinese legend...".
* A {{tc|Guitarist}} that can be battled in [[Generation IV]]'s {{Gdis|Battle Frontier|IV}} mentions that his guitar is actually a {{wp|Shamisen|Japanese instrument}}.
* Among the exhibits of the Nacrene museum, there is an African mask, referring to a place in the real world, in addition to being different from other exhibitions, which are related to the history of the Pokémon.
* {{p|Articuno}}, {{p|Beartic}}, {{p|Arctozolt}}, and {{p|Arctovish}}'s names are derived from a real-world location, the {{wp|Arctic}}.
* {{p|Arcanine}}'s {{game|Yellow}}, {{pkmn|Stadium}}, [[Pokémon Gold and Silver Versions|Gold]], [[Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen Versions|FireRed]], and [[Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions|HeartGold]] [[Pokédex entry|Pokédex entries]] state that it is mentioned in {{wp|China|Chinese}} legends. Its entries in [[Pokémon Sun and Moon|Pokémon Sun]] and {{LGPE}} instead refer to "the East".
* {{p|Parasect}}'s Stadium and FireRed Pokédex entries mention that its spores are used in medicine in China.
* {{p|Ponyta}}'s Stadium Pokédex entry mentions that it can clear the Eiffel Tower ({{wp|Tokyo Tower}} in the original Japanese version) in one leap, and its FireRed entry says that it can clear {{wp|Uluru|Ayers Rock}} in one leap.
* {{p|Poliwrath}}'s Gold, [[Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Versions|Ruby, Sapphire]], {{v2|Emerald}}, [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|Diamond, Pearl]], {{v2|Platinum}}, HeartGold, [[Pokémon Black and White Versions|Black, White]], [[Pokémon Black and White Versions 2|Black 2, White 2]] and [[Pokémon X and Y|X]] Pokédex entries mention its ability to swim the {{wp|Pacific Ocean}}. Also, the direction of a Poliwrath's spirals depends on its geographical location. In [[Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire|Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire]], it instead refers to "the ocean".
* {{p|Xatu}}'s Silver, FireRed, and SoulSilver Pokédex entries mention that South Americans say that it can see both the future and past.
* {{p|Delibird}}'s Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald Pokédex entries explain that a Delibird helped a famous explorer reach the top of {{wp|Mt. Everest}}. In Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire, it instead refers to "the world's highest mountain," which is what Mt. Everest is to Earth.
* {{p|Regice}}'s Emerald Pokédex entry mentions {{wp|Antarctica|Antarctic}} ice.
* [[Galarian form|Galarian]] {{p|Meowth}} are implied to have been raised by Vikings in ancient times, and share many similarities with them.

====People and cultures====
* In the original Japanese version of {{g|Stadium 2}}, one of [[Lt. Surge]]'s possible lines is 'How do you say "electric" in Japanese?' (エレクトリック　って　にほんごで　なんと　いいますか？)
* {{p|Hitmonlee}} and {{p|Hitmonchan}} are explicitly named after martial artists {{wp|Bruce Lee}} and {{wp|Jackie Chan}}, respectively. In other languages where their names are different, those names are likewise derived from real people.
* {{p|Snorlax}}'s design and Japanese name ''Kabigon'' are derived from [[Game Freak]] programmer [[Kōji Nishino]] and his nickname of "Kirby" (Japanese: カービィ ''Kābī''), which in turn is derived from {{wk|Kirby|the video game character of the same name}}, which was in turn named after the lawyer {{wp|John Kirby (attorney)|John Kirby}}.<ref>Shea, Brian (October 24, 2019). "[https://web.archive.org/web/20230805233026/https://www.gameinformer.com/interview/2019/10/24/more-burning-questions-for-the-pokemon-series More Burning Questions For The Pokémon Series]." ''Game Informer'' (Archived on August 5, 2023.)</ref> This is referenced in {{2v2|Black|White|2}}, in which Nishino appears as a battleable NPC and his highest-leveled Pokémon is Snorlax.
* The core series games have featured staff members of [[Game Freak]] that typically [[Diploma|reward]] the player for completing the [[National Pokédex]], or occasionally through alternative methods. [[Shigeki Morimoto]] can be battled in the [[Generation V]], {{gen|VII}}, and {{gen|VIII}} games; in {{pkmn|Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon}}, he is fought in a Double Battle that also features director [[Kazumasa Iwao]].
* NPCs in the [[core series]] games are regularly named after real-world people.
** [[Johto Route 35]], [[Connecting Cave]], [[Hau'oli Cemetery]], and [[Viridian Forest]] (in [[Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee!]]) each contain a Trainer whose Japanese name is ''Ikue'' (in the latter two cases, this name was preserved in other languages as well) and who uses a Pikachu. [[Ikue Otani]] is the voice actress for [[Ash's Pikachu]].
** In [[Pokémon Gold and Silver Versions|Gold, Silver,]] {{v2|Crystal}}, [[Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Versions|Ruby, Sapphire]], {{v2|Emerald}}, [[Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions|HeartGold, SoulSilver,]] [[Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire|Omega Ruby, and Alpha Sapphire]], there are {{tc|Black Belt}}s named Nob, after translator [[Nob Ogasawara]]. Additionally, in {{2v2|FireRed|LeafGreen}} and [[Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee!|Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee!]], there is a {{tc|Hiker}} named Nob on {{rt|25|Kanto}}. Ogasawara confirmed via Twitter that his name was assigned to NPC trainers not by him, but by [[Nintendo of America]] staff as a reference to him.<ref>[https://twitter.com/DougDinsdale/status/1305200714587619328 Tweet by Nob Ogasawara (@DougDinsdale).] Posted on September 13, 2020.</ref>
** [[Alola Route 5]] contains a [[Double Battle]] against trainers named Isa and Nico, named in honor of the daughters of [[Eric Medalle]], a Pokémon creative director who was killed in an accident during the time [[Pokémon Sun and Moon]] were in development.<ref>[https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2016/03/21/pokemon-eric-medalle-seattle-weather-falling-tree/82094134/ Falling tree kills Pokémon designer and Detroit native Eric Medalle - Detroit Free Press]</ref>
** In {{game|Sword and Shield|s}}, an [[Artist]] NPC named Kapoor can [[In-game trade|trade]] with the player, a reference to British artist Anish Kapoor.
** In {{game|Crystal}}, several Trainers in the {{Gdis|Battle Tower|II}} are references to [[Staff of Pokémon Crystal|people involved in the creation of the game]].<ref>[https://iimarckus.org/i/tower-references/ iimarck.us - Battle Tower In‐Jokes]</ref>
*** {{tc|Guitarist}} Masuda is a reference to [[Junichi Masuda]], Crystal's music director.
*** {{tc|Bug Catcher}} Tajiri is a reference to Pokémon's creator, [[Satoshi Tajiri]], and his childhood fixation with bug catching.
*** {{tc|Scientist}} Mori is a reference to Akito Mori, who is listed under "special thanks" in Crystal.
*** {{tc|Teacher}} Kawakami is a reference to Naoko Kawakami, who is listed under "special thanks" in Crystal.
* In {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}, a {{tc|Team Rocket Grunt}} mentions the {{wp|hula}} dance to a [[Kimono Girl]] while in the [[Ecruteak City#Kimono Dance Theater|Kimono Dance Theater]].
* In {{game|Black and White|s}}, six of the [[Seven Sages]] quote proverbs from several Chinese philosophers.
** [[Zinzolin]] quotes a proverb from ''{{wp|Mencius (book)|Mencius}}'' and a line from ''{{wp|Tao Te Ching}}'' at N's Castle.
** [[Gorm]] quotes a proverb from {{wp|Sun Tzu}}'s ''{{wp|The Art of War}}'' in Pinwheel Forest, and a line from both The {{wp|Analects}} and ''{{wp|Huainanzi}}'' at N's Castle.
** [[Bronius]] quotes another line from ''Tao Te Ching'' at N's Castle.
** [[Giallo]] quotes another line from ''Mencius'' at N's Castle.
** In the Japanese version, [[Ryoku]] quotes a line from ''{{wp|Zhuangzi (book)|Zhuangzi}}'' at N's Castle. In both versions, he also quotes a proverb by {{wp|Song Dynasty}} philosopher Hu Yin at N's Castle.
** [[Rood]] quotes another proverb from the Analects and made a reference to a Chinese idiom at N's Castle.
* In {{4v|Black|White}}, the woman in [[Mistralton City]] who normally gives a [[Heart Scale]] in exchange for ten [[Sweet Heart]]s will trade a Heart Scale for only five Sweet Hearts on {{wp|Valentine's Day}} and {{wp|White Day}}.
* {{p|Archeops}}'s name is possibly derived from ''Cheops'', the Greek name for Egyptian pharaoh {{wp|Khufu}}.

====Other references====
* In all of the [[core series]] {{pkmn|games}} and some [[side series]] games, there is a [[Nintendo]] gaming console in the {{player}}'s [[Player's house|bedroom]]. This is a reference to the real-world gaming company that owns the [[Pokémon|franchise]].
* In the Generation I games and their Generation III remakes, an old man at the [[Pewter Museum of Science]] states that the first moon landing occurred on July 20, 1969, the same date as the real world {{wp|Apollo 11}} flight. In Generation VII, he instead merely states that it has been "decades" since the moon landing, but also talks about humankind's plans to set foot on a "faraway red planet" (implied to be {{wp|Mars}}).
* {{p|Raichu}} and {{p|Gastly}}'s [[Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen Versions|FireRed]] [[Pokédex entry|Pokédex entries]] mention both Pokémon being able to easily knock out an {{wp|Indian Elephant}}, an [[Animals in the Pokémon world|actual animal]]. However, in [[Pokémon Legends: Arceus]], Raichu's entry instead mentions {{p|Copperajah}}.
* The {{p|Arceus}} [[Sinjoh Ruins#Arceus event|event]] that takes place in {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}} includes real life pictures in the game.
* {{p|Porygon}}'s [[Pokémon Sun and Moon|Sun]], [[Pokémon Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon|Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon]] Pokédex entries mentions it was created "20 years ago", referencing the release of Pocket Monsters Red and Green.
* Multiple references to the geographical relations between the real world locations the in-game regions are based on have been made throughout the games; for example, a {{tc|Swimmer}} on [[Galar Route 9]] says people have {{wp|List of successful English Channel swimmers|successfully swum}} between [[Kalos]] and [[Galar]].

===Real-world mentions in the anime===
====Locations====
* In ''[[EP009|School of Hard Knocks]]'', {{an|Misty}} fantasizes about {{wp|Paris}} and the {{wp|Eiffel Tower}}.
* In ''[[EP032|The Ninja Poké-Showdown]]'', James says that the [[Fuchsia Gym]] looks like a {{wp|Japan|Japanese}} restaurant.
* In the English [[dub]] of ''[[EP043|The March of the Exeggutor Squad]]'', Melvin says he wanted to make it to {{wp|Las Vegas}}. In the Japanese version, he said that he wanted to make it to {{wp|Broadway}}.
* In ''[[EP066|The Evolution Solution]]'', Meowth says, "Keep digging till you hit China!" to Jessie and James, who were digging for clam shells.
* In the {{wp|William Shakespeare}}-inspired episode ''[[EP100|Wherefore Art Thou, Pokémon?]]'', Misty described the town as like being in "merry old {{wp|England}}".
* In ''[[M01|Mewtwo Strikes Back]]'', Team Rocket are disguised as {{wp|Vikings}}. In the English dub, [[Brock]] says that he didn't know that Vikings still existed and {{Ash}} replies that they "mostly live in {{wp|Minnesota}}". This is a reference to the Minnesota Vikings, a football team in the area.
:*In the {{pmin|Sweden|Swedish dub}} of the movie, Ash says that they come from {{wp|Norway}}, a reference to the Norse Vikings who lived from the 8th to the 11th century.
:* In the {{pmin|Denmark|Danish dub}} of the movie, Ash tells Brock that the Vikings are mostly on trips in {{wp|Sweden}}, again referring to the Norse Vikings, but may also refer to {{wp|Vikingarna (band)|Vikingarna}}, a Swedish {{wp|dansband}}.
:* In the {{pmin|Finland|Finnish dub}} of the movie, Ash quips that Vikings still live in the {{wp|Sipoo}} archipelago, referring to the fact that Sipoo was at the time mostly inhabited by Swedish-speaking Finns (another reference to Norse Vikings).
* At the end of ''[[Mewtwo Returns]]'', Mewtwo is shown overlooking a "faraway city" that greatly resembles New York City. Buildings similar to the {{wp|Chrysler Building}} and the {{wp|MetLife Building}} are visible in the distance.
* In ''[[M05|Pokémon Heroes: Latios & Latias]]'', Misty makes a direct reference to the Earth, saying, "The Earth is so pretty." However, she may be referring to the landscape rather than the literal planet.
* In ''[[EP270|Can't Beat the Heat]]'', {{Ash}}'s {{AP|Charizard}} uses {{m|Seismic Toss}}. Normally, a cloudy globe can be seen, but this time the Pacific Ocean and {{wp|Australia}} are prominent. This also happens in ''[[EP059|Volcanic Panic]]'' and the introduction to ''[[M01|Mewtwo Strikes Back]]''.
* In the English dub of ''[[AG132|The Scheme Team]]'', [[Jessie]] talks about Antarctica, the place where their next assignment is located.
* In ''[[AG145|Pasta La Vista!]]'', an ad in {{an|May}}'s food guidebook mentions "Chinese noodles".
* A map of the Pokémon world seen in ''[[BW009|The Bloom Is On Axew!]]'' centered on Unova features several landmasses resembling Europe and Scandinavia, with some of them either being rotated or flipped.
* In the {{pmin|South Asia|Hindi}} dub of ''[[BW28|Oshawott's Lost Scalchop!]]'', while [[Ash's Oshawott]] was perfecting {{m|Aqua Jet}}, {{an|Cilan}} states "{{tt|जाना था जापान पर पहुंच गए चाइना|We wanted to go to Japan, but ended up in China}}" (lit. ''Jānā thā Japan, par pahunch gaye China''), which refers to the real-world countries of {{wp|Japan}} and {{wp|China}}. The phrase itself can be interpreted roughly as "The aim and the result were different".
* In ''[[BW038|Movie Time! Zorua in "The Legend of the Pokémon Knight"!]]'', the Eiffel Tower and the {{wp|Arc de Triomphe}} were seen on a movie poster.
* In the Hindi dub of ''[[XY030|Mega Revelations!]]'' , {{MTR}} says "{{tt|हम सब जानते हैं कश्मीर से कन्याकुमारी तक|We know everything, from Kashmir to Kanyakumari}}" (lit. ''Ham sab jānte hain, Kashmīr se Kanyākumāri tak''). This is a common Indian saying, roughly translating to "Our knowledge is supreme", which refers to the Indian subcontinent's northernmost region, {{wp|Kashmir}}, and its southernmost city, {{wp|Kanyakumari}}.
* Starting with [[M16|the sixteenth movie]], each Pokémon movie features a recurring globe texture in the intro used to represent the Pokémon world (as opposed to simply featuring randomly-shaped, nondescript landmasses below the clouds): the globe texture features altered landmasses such as one resembling Africa but featuring only the Sahara Desert and the southern half being missing, a large island to the northwest of the Sahara-like landmass, the Arabian Peninsula missing several large chunks, a landmass resembling Australia but rotated 90 degrees clockwise in the middle of a body of water resembling the Indian Ocean, and the northeastern portion of Russia being missing. However, other parts of the globe remain virtually unchanged, like those resembling most of Europe, the Indian subcontinent, Central and Southeast Asia, and Papua New Guinea.
* In ''[[XYS04|Mega Evolution Special IV]]'', a holographic globe can be seen inside Lysandre Labs. The globe features continents similar to the real Earth, implying that the planet's continents may probably look very similar to that of the real Earth, and that all of the known regions in the Pokémon world may actually in fact be smaller parts of a much larger landmass.
* In the planetarium special ''[[Celestial Debris]]'', a map of the Pokémon world can be seen on a computer monitor. The map texture looks very similar to the one used to represent the planet in later Pokémon films, with three landmasses resembling North America, Europe, and eastern Russia all appearing upside down.

====People and cultures====
* In ''[[EP016|Pokémon Shipwreck]]'', Brock directly refers to the tale of {{wp|Noah}} who sent a {{wp|Columbidae|dove}} to find dry land after a {{wp|Flood myth|great flood}}, according to most Abrahamic religions.
* The Japanese version of the song [[Team Rocket Forever]] includes the lines 「ムサシ!/コジロウ!/関門海峡/門司/下関」"''Musashi!/Kojirō!/Kanmon Straits.../Moji.../Shimonoseki...''", referencing the famous duel that {{wp|Miyamoto Musashi}} and {{wp|Sasaki Kojirō}} (the name basis for [[Jessie]] and [[James]]'s Japanese names, Musashi and Kojirō) fought on an island in the {{wp|Kanmon Straits}}, which is located between {{wp|Moji-ku, Kitakyūshū|Moji}} and {{wp|Shimonoseki}}.
* The Japanese holiday ''{{wp|Hinamatsuri}}'' (means Doll Festival, but sometimes referred to as Girls' Day) is featured in ''[[EP052|Princess vs. Princess]]'' (dubbed as the [[Princess Festival]]).
* The Japanese holiday {{wp|Children's Day (Japan)|Children's Day}} (''Kodomo no Hi'') is featured in ''[[EP053|The Purr-fect Hero]]'' (dubbed as [[Kids Day]]).
* [[Christmas]] is mentioned several times in the animated series and manga. [[Santa Claus]] is a recurring character in {{aniseries|PTS}} who first appeared in ''[[Holiday Hi-Jynx]]''. In the dub, Santa's home is called the [[North Pole]].
* In ''[[EP197|The Art of Pokémon]]'', James mentions the presence of {{wp|Pablo Picasso|Picasso}} and {{wp|Rembrandt}}'s paintings at his home.
* In ''[[M04|Celebi: The Voice of the Forest]]'', Meowth asks if they saw the [[Iron-Masked Marauder]] in a {{wp|Lucha libre|Mexican wrestling}} movie.
* In ''[[AG011|A Bite to Remember]]'', Jessie says that {{wp|Albert Einstein}} created the {{wp|Incandescent light bulb|light bulb}}. Max corrects her, saying that {{wp|Thomas Edison}} was the creator.

====Other references====
* In ''[[BW045|Beheeyem, Duosion, and the Dream Thief!]]'', a painting within the resort created by {{p|Beheeyem}} bears a striking resemblance to ''{{wp|Relativity (M. C. Escher)|Relativity}}'' by {{wp|M. C. Escher}}.
* One of the hotels Ash and his group tried to stay at and ultimately failed to do so in the episode ''[[EP058|Riddle Me This!]]'' featured a painting of a tiger near grass, mirroring a similar painting found at {{wp|Azuchi Castle}}.
* The nameless movie May describes in ''[[AG086|Lights, Camerupt, Action!]]'' is a reference to the movie ''{{wp|Titanic (1997 film)|Titanic}}''.
* In {{an|Dawn}}'s flashback in ''[[DP161|Yes In Dee Dee, It's Dawn]]'', a teacher tells her students a tale about {{p|Buneary}} and {{p|Turtwig}}, which is similar to "{{wp|The Tortoise and the Hare}}".
* In ''[[M20|I Choose You!]]'', Ash dreams about being in an alternate reality where no Pokémon exist and children attend regular school.

===Real-world mentions in the TCG===
* In the TCG [[Secret Mission (Gym Heroes 118)]] card, the map in the background shows German occupied Poland during World War II: Warsaw is located right above Raichu's right ear, Białystok and Brest-Litowsk behind Lt. Surge, and the Silesian Border between Andreashütte and Festenberg right below Raichu's binoculars. The rivers Weichsel, Narew and Bug are also depicted.
* In the TCG [[Lucky Stadium (Neo Destiny 100)]] card, there is a promotional {{wp|New York City}} print with a {{p|Pichu}} and a {{p|Pikachu}} flying on a {{p|Charizard}} in New York City, with the {{wp|Empire State Building}} visible in the background.

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Galar

2025-11-12T19:25:32Z

Poppy Appletree: The Isle of Man is not part of the UK and it is technically incorrect to describe it as a Crown Dependency of the UK

{{RegionInfobox
|regioncolor=galar
|name=Galar
|jname=ガラル
|tmname=Galar
|image=Galar artwork.png
|size=300
|caption=Artwork of the Galar region from {{g|Sword and Shield}}
|introduction={{g|Sword and Shield}}
|professor=[[Professor Magnolia]] [[Sonia|Professor Sonia]]
|firstpartner={{p|Grookey}}, {{p|Scorbunny}}, and {{p|Sobble}}
|villain=[[Team Yell]] [[Macro Cosmos]] [[Sordward]] and [[Shielbert]] [[Explorers]] (''{{aniseries|HZ|Horizons}}'')
|league=[[Galar League]]
|location=[[Wyndon Stadium]]
|pokelist=[[List of Pokémon by Galar Pokédex number|Galar Pokédex]] [[List of Pokémon by Isle of Armor Pokédex number|Isle of Armor Pokédex]] [[List of Pokémon by Crown Tundra Pokédex number|Crown Tundra Pokédex]]
|generation={{Gen|VIII}}
|games={{pkmn|Sword and Shield}}
|series={{aniseries|PTS}}  ''{{aniseries|JN|Journeys}}'' {{aniseries|HZ}}  ''[[Liko and Roy's Departure]]''  ''[[The Sparkling of Terapagos]]''  ''[[Mega Voltage]]'' ''[[Pokémon: Twilight Wings]]''
|season=[[S23|Journeys]] (23) [[S24|Master Journeys]] (24) [[S25|Ultimate Journeys]] (25) [[Pokémon Horizons: The Series (season)|Horizons]]
|manga=''[[PASS01|Wow!! That's One Big Pokémon]]''
}}
The '''Galar''' region (Japanese: '''ガラル{{tt|地方|ちほう}}''' ''Galar {{tt|region|chihō}}'') is a [[region]] of the [[Pokémon world]], and the eighth [[core series]] region to be introduced. It is the setting of {{g|Sword and Shield}}.

==Etymology and design concept==
===Etymology===
Galar may have been derived from ''gallant'', ''gala'' (a special occasion), or ''{{wp|Galahad}}''. It may also come from an anagram of ''San-Graal'', the French name of the {{wp|Holy Grail}}. Another possible etymology may be ''galar'', Irish and Scottish Gaelic for "disease," in reference to either [[Dynamax]] and {{p|Eternatus}} or one of Britain's nicknames, Blighty.

===Design concept===
{{main|Pokémon world in relation to the real world#Galar|Pokémon world in relation to the real world → Galar}}
[[File:Pokemon-to-real-world-Europe.png|thumb|left|250px|The map of Europe showing the Galar region as {{wp|Great Britain}}.]]
Galar is based on the {{wp|United Kingdom}}. According to [[Shigeru Ohmori]], the UK was chosen as the basis for Galar to reflect {{g|Sword and Shield}}’s theme of "strength"—the pursuit of becoming the strongest—highlighting the spirit of competitiveness that defines Pokémon battles.<ref>[https://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-news/we-interview-junichi-masuda-and-shigeru-ohmori-about-pokemon-sword-and-pokemon-shield/ We Interview Junichi Masuda and Shigeru Ohmori about ''Pokémon Sword'' and ''Pokémon Shield'' | Pokemon.com]</ref>

The main part of Galar focuses heavily on the island of Great Britain, especially {{wp|England}} and (to a lesser extent) {{wp|Wales}}. However, the orientation of the landmass is rotated 180° compared to real-world Great Britain: for example, northern Galar is based on southern England. The parts of Galar introduced in the [[Pokémon Sword and Shield Expansion Pass]] are based on other parts of the British Isles: the [[Isle of Armor]] is based on the {{wp|Isle of Man}}, a self-governing {{wp|Crown Dependencies|crown dependency}} of the British Crown, and the [[Crown Tundra]] is based on {{wp|Scotland}}.<ref>[https://twitter.com/pokemonnewsuk/status/1216731889920368643 Tweet regarding Isle of Armor and Crown Tundra's inspiration]</ref>
{{left clear}}

==History==
===Prehistory===
20,000 years prior to the events of {{g|Sword and Shield}}, a meteorite containing {{p|Eternatus}} fell in Galar. 3,000 years prior, Eternatus awakened for the first time and started an event known as the [[Darkest Day]], causing a black storm to spread across Galar, but Eternatus was stopped by [[First kings of Galar|two humans]] and the [[legendary heroes]], resulting in the boys being crowned as the kings of the region. During the battle, pieces of Eternatus's body were scattered across the region, giving origin to the [[Wishing Piece]]s and [[Wishing Star]]s, and consequently, to the [[Dynamax Band]]s. Statues of the two kings and the two Pokémon were also built at some point in [[Stow-on-Side]]. Over time, the wolves were forgotten by time.

At some point, the heavily injured {{ga|Calyrex}} was found by a group of humans in the [[Crown Tundra]] who, after gaining its trust, took care of it and healed it back to its full strength. In gratitude for the humans, Calyrex used its powers to turn the frozen tundra they lived in into a habitable land filled with lush and rich soil. Since then, Calyrex was worshipped as the king of bountiful harvests. At some point later, Calyrex saved its worshippers from the lord of the Crown Tundra {{p|Glastrier}}/{{p|Spectrier}}, forcing it to become its steed. Over time, however, Calyrex was slowly forgotten, greatly weakening it as a result. As it continued to grow weaker, its steed eventually abandoned it, leaving the king with a mere fraction of its original power.

Galar has historically had a strained relationship with the [[Kalos]] region.<ref>'''Lumiose Museum, The Commander's Armor:''' ''"However, it is difficult to verify such claims, given relations between Kalos and Galar during the era."'' ({{pkmn|Legends: Z-A}})</ref>

70 years prior, [[Opal]] inherited the [[Ballonlea]] [[Gym Leader]] from her mother. 50 years prior, [[Mustard]] defeated Opal and went on to become Galar's {{pkmn|Champion}}, which he succeeded in doing. He held his position for 18 years, longer than any other League Champion before or since. However, Mustard loses his position as Galar's Champion after the death of his Pokémon partner. After retiring from the Pokémon League and traveling the world, Mustard returned to Galar, bought an island, named it the [[Isle of Armor]], and founded the [[Master Dojo]] in it.

===Contemporary history===
===={{g|Sword and Shield}}====
{{ga|Victor}}/{{ga|Gloria}} and their best friend, [[Hop]], receive their [[first partner Pokémon]] from [[Leon]], the undefeated {{pkmn|Champion}} and Hop's brother. Shortly thereafter, they meet a mysterious {{OBP|Pokémon|species}} in the [[Slumbering Weald]]. As they begin their {{pkmn|journey}}, they receive [[Pokédex]]es from [[Sonia]], [[Dynamax Band]]s from [[Professor Magnolia]], and [[endorsement]]s from Leon to enter the [[Galar League|Gym Challenge]]. They travel across Galar, challenging [[Gym]]s to earn the eight [[Badge]]s they need to enter the Champion Cup. Over the course of their journey, they encounter a group called [[Team Yell]], whose members support [[Marnie]] in the Gym Challenge. They also encounter another group called [[Macro Cosmos]], a conglomerate led by [[Rose]], who has endorsed his ward [[Bede]] in the Gym Challenge. During the Champion Cup in [[Wyndon Stadium]], Rose interrupts the Championship Match by reawakening {{p|Eternatus}}, bringing about the [[Darkest Day]] in an attempt to provide energy for Galar for 1,000 years. To stop Rose's plan, Victor/Gloria and Hop search for the [[Rusted Sword]] and [[Rusted Shield]] in the Slumbering Weald, and with those [[item]]s in hand, they head to the [[Energy Plant]] in [[Hammerlocke]] to face Rose. Victor/Gloria battles and defeats Rose, then joins Leon and Hop to face Eternatus; in the course of the battle, the Rusted Sword and Rusted Shield summon {{p|Zacian}} and {{p|Zamazenta}} (respectively) to their aid. After defeating Eternatus, Victor/Gloria manages to catch it. They then return to [[Wyndon]] to defeat Leon in the Championship Match, becoming the new Champion of Galar.

After becoming Champion, Hop and Victor/Gloria travel back to the Slumbering Weald to return the Rusted Sword and Rusted Shield. While there, they encounter an odd pair of brothers, [[Sordward]] and [[Shielbert]], who proclaim themselves descendants of the original kings of Galar and steal the Rusted Sword and Rusted Shield. The brothers seek to undermine Zacian and Zamazenta's reputation as saviors of Galar by turning them instead into threats. As an experiment to further their plan, they release Dynamax particles across Galar, sending multiple Dynamax Pokémon out of control across multiple stadiums. Victor/Gloria, Hop, and then-former [[Gym Leader]] [[Piers]] set out to stop the rampaging Pokémon, while Sonia tracks the brothers. The group finds them at the Hammerlocke Energy Plant, where they attempt to use Dynamax particles to send Zamazenta{{sup/8|Sw}}/Zacian{{sup/8|Sh}} into an uncontrollable fury. Zamazenta{{sup/8|Sw}}/Zacian{{sup/8|Sh}} resists, instead attacking Shielbert{{sup/8|Sw}}/Sordward{{sup/8|Sh}}. With the help of Hop and Zacian{{sup/8|Sw}}/Zamazenta{{sup/8|Sh}}, Victor/Gloria successfully calms Zamazenta{{sup/8|Sw}}/Zacian{{sup/8|Sh}}. Zamazenta{{sup/8|Sw}}/Zacian{{sup/8|Sh}} then flees, pursued by Hop, while Zacian{{sup/8|Sw}}/Zamazenta{{sup/8|Sh}} allows Victor/Gloria to catch them by defeating them in battle. Victor/Gloria and their new Pokémon return to find Hop in the Slumbering Weald. There, Hop successfully calms and catches Zamazenta/Zacian, and challenges Victor/Gloria to one final battle.

=====[[The Isle of Armor]]=====
Victor/Gloria travels to the [[Isle of Armor]] off the coast of Galar and becomes an apprentice in the local [[Master Dojo]], a [[battle facility]] run by former Champion [[Mustard]]. They also develop a new [[rival]]ry with a Gym Leader-in-training and fellow apprentice named [[Klara]]{{sup/8|Sw}}/[[Avery]]{{sup/8|Sh}}. Victor/Gloria enrolls and takes part in a series of trials, first chasing a trio of fast Galarian {{p|Slowpoke}}, searching for Max Mushrooms, and having a final showdown with Klara/Avery. In doing so, Victor/Gloria proves to be Mustard's best student since [[Leon]], as claimed by Mustard himself. As a reward for completing Mustard's trials, they are given a {{p|Kubfu}} as a companion to raise, with the goal of raising it into a great {{p|Urshifu}}. After developing a strong bond with {{p|Kubfu}}, Victor/Gloria heads to the [[Tower of Darkness]] or the [[Tower of Waters]], and completes a rite of passage to ultimately earn the right to evolve Kubfu into Urshifu. After Victor/Gloria become Champion of Galar, they are tasked by Mustard to find [[Max Honey]] for Urshifu to achieve [[Gigantamax]] transformation, and work alongside Hop to find it. Once Urshifu has achieved the ability to Gigantamax, Victor/Gloria have a final showdown with Mustard, who now holds nothing back, and prevails. Mustard congratulates them, and tells them to be ready for [[Galarian Star Tournament|what's to come]].

=====[[The Crown Tundra]]=====
Victor/Gloria travels to the [[Crown Tundra]] in southern Galar, where they meet [[Peony]], an enthusiastic former {{type|Steel}} Gym Leader and Champion as well as the younger brother of [[Rose]], and take his daughter [[Peonia]]'s place in his explorations of solving the legends lurking around the Tundra, since Peonia refuses to do so. As such, Peony assigns Victor/Gloria as the leader of his "expedition team" and tasks them with searching for various [[Legendary Pokémon]] who are known to reside in the Crown Tundra. One of these Pokémon is the King of Bountiful Harvests, a known figurehead in the Crown Tundra and its small town of [[Freezington]], but one whose stories are now only known to a few. Victor/Gloria eventually meets this Pokémon after restoring its statue, who reveals its name to be {{p|Calyrex}}, while it uses [[Peony]] as a means to communicate with them. It reveals that it had lost its power over the years as less and less people believed in it, and it eventually lost the ability to bring bountiful harvests. Calyrex tasks Victor/Gloria with creating the Reins of Unity (which Peony successfully creates) and planting either an Iceroot Carrot or Shaderoot Carrot in hopes of reclaiming its long lost steed, who is later revealed to be {{p|Glastrier}}/{{p|Spectrier}}. They eventually lure the steed into the Crown Shrine, and Calyrex takes its Reins of Unity and bonds with Glastrier or Spectrier once more, achieving its full power again. Now having regained its power, Calyrex allows Victor/Gloria to challenge it to a battle to catch it, and they succeed in doing so. Calyrex thanks the player and looks forward to the journeys they will share.

In the midst of doing so, Victor/Gloria explores the entirety of the Crown Tundra, discovering several ruins that uncover the [[legendary giants]], including two newly discovered ones in {{p|Regieleki}} and {{p|Regidrago}}. They also discover a tree where [[Galarian form]]s of the [[legendary birds]] come, and chases them all around Galar, one in the Crown Tundra itself, one in the Isle of Armor, and one in Galar's own Wild Area.

In doing all this, Victor/Gloria eventually reports these back to Peony, and eventually they go all the way to the [[Max Lair]] and rejoin Peonia, in which they all partake in [[Dynamax Adventure]]s. In the midst of these, it is revealed a strange Pokémon appeared in the Max Lair and multiple [[Ultra Beast]]s came as well: eventually, Victor/Gloria discover that it was in fact {{p|Necrozma}}, and reports it to Peony, which is then noticed by the scientist running the [[Max Lair]].

After having explored the [[Crown Tundra]], Victor/Gloria receives a call from [[Leon]], who formally invites them to the [[Galarian Star Tournament]] in Wyndon, which involves two-on-two [[Multi Battle]]s, and Victor/Gloria partners with either Hop or Marnie in a series of battles against all of Galar's Gym Leaders and emerges victorious.

==Geography==
[[File:Galar Adventures.png|thumb|250px|Galar in [[Pokémon Adventures]]]]
The Galar region is an expansive region, including varied environments such as idyllic countrysides, contemporary cities, and snow-covered mountains. Galar comprises a long mainland area as well as an outlying island area, the [[Isle of Armor]], east of the mainland.

The extreme south of the Galarian mainland includes the [[Crown Tundra]]. This area is isolated from the rest of the mainland by a tall mountain range, which extends north along both mainland coasts. However, the Galarian train system allows for travel through these mountains.

Just north of the southern mountains, in the broad valley between its coastal spurs, lie the dense [[Slumbering Weald]] and nearby village of [[Postwick]]. This valley also marks the beginning of a long stretch of plains dotted with hills, ending just north of [[Hammerlocke]], that cover the majority of mainland Galar. These plains are home to two of the three main cities in Galar: Hammerlocke and [[Motostoke]]. Various arid, rocky environments sit at the northern edges of the plains, including the cliffs outside [[Stow-on-Side]] on {{rt|6|Galar}} and the ruins south of [[Circhester]] on {{rt|8|Galar}}. In northwest Galar, surrounding [[Ballonlea]], is the [[Glimwood Tangle]], a thick, gloomy forest. East of this forest lies a broad tundra that includes the city of Circhester and a range of snowy and jagged mountains that separates the metropolis of [[Wyndon]] from the rest of Galar.

The Isle of Armor sits in the sea to the east, closest to the mainland town of [[Spikemuth]]. Much of the isle consists of lush forests, caves, rolling hills and tree-filled valleys that rise from its long beaches. Despite being an island, it is connected to mainland Galar's train system with dedicated [[Flying Taxi]]s.

In the {{pkmn|animated series}}, it was revealed Galar is far enough away from Kanto (and presumably Johto, Hoenn, and Sinnoh) to require airplanes for travel between them. Dialogue in [[Pokémon Sword and Shield|the games]] reveals that Galar is within swimming distance of Kalos.

===Demographics===
The Galar region has a total population of 727, including all towns, cities, and other areas. Upon its introduction in [[Generation VIII]], it was the {{tt|fourth|While Sinnoh has a lower population than Galar in Diamond and Pearl, it has a higher population in Platinum.}} largest region by population. Currently, it is the fifth.

===Notable locations===
Galar has 12 cities and towns. Like in [[Unova]], [[Kalos]], and [[Alola]], Galarian route numbers start from 1, likely due to the geographical isolation of these regions from both the original four regions and each other. There are 10 routes in total, all on the Galarian mainland, divided into four groups:
* {{rt|1|Galar}} & {{rt|2|Galar}} in southern Galar, around [[Wedgehurst]] and surrounding locations;
* {{rt|3|Galar}}, {{rt|4|Galar}}, & {{rt|5|Galar}} in central Galar, forming a loop between [[Motostoke]] and the nearby towns;
* {{rt|6|Galar}}, {{rt|7|Galar}}, {{rt|8|Galar}}, & {{rt|9|Galar}} in central Galar, around [[Hammerlocke]] and the nearby towns; and
* {{rt|10|Galar}} in northern Galar, connecting to the southern gates of [[Wyndon]].
Unlike in most other regions, it is impossible to travel through Galar using just these routes. Instead, a train system connects different cities and towns, and thus connects the different sets of routes.

The Galar region also has an extensive area called the [[Wild Area]] which adjoins several towns and cities in the region.

====Settlements====
{| style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background:#{{galar color dark}}; {{roundy|5px}}; border: 2px solid #{{galar color}}"
|- style="color:#FFF"
! style="background:#{{galar color}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Map
! style="background:#{{galar color}}" | Name
! style="background:#{{galar color}}" | Population
! style="background:#{{galar color}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Description
|- style="background:#FFF"
| [[File:Postwick SwSh.png|100px]]
| [[Postwick]]
| 5
| A farming town since days of old, where people and their Pokémon live in close harmony.
|- style="background:#FFF"
| [[File:Wedgehurst SwSh.png|100px]]
| [[Wedgehurst]]
| 31
| Our quiet borough is home to the esteemed Pokémon Research Lab.
|- style="background:#FFF"
| [[File:Motostoke SwSh.png|100px]]
| [[Motostoke]]
| 120
| An industrial city studded with steam-powered marvels of modern engineering.
|- style="background:#FFF"
| [[File:Turffield SwSh.png|100px]]
| [[Turffield]]
| 36
| A town nestled within the nurturing bowl of our many terraced farming fields.
|- style="background:#FFF"
| [[File:Hulbury SwSh.png|100px]]
| [[Hulbury]]
| 54
| A bustling seaport that many visit to see its lively market stalls and famed restaurant.
|- style="background:#FFF"
| [[File:Hammerlocke SwSh.png|100px]]
| [[Hammerlocke]]
| 102
| A city of great history, living and thriving within castle walls that date back to the Middle Ages.
|- style="background:#FFF"
| [[File:Stow-On-Side SwSh.png|100px]]
| [[Stow-on-Side]]
| 44
| A vibrant town that has grown up around an ancient mural tucked away in the mountains.
|- style="background:#FFF"
| [[File:Ballonlea SwSh.png|100px]]
| [[Ballonlea]]
| 31
| A charming town where the people make their homes among the trunks of the towering trees.
|- style="background:#FFF"
| [[File:Circhester SwSh.png|100px]]
| [[Circhester]]
| 97
| Buildings from an age long gone still stand about the steaming hot spring that covers the town.
|- style="background:#FFF"
| [[File:Spikemuth SwSh.png|100px]]
| [[Spikemuth]]
| 29
| This rocking town has a punk vibe and streets crammed with shops lined up cheek by jowl.
|- style="background:#FFF"
| [[File:Wyndon SwSh.png|100px]]
| [[Wyndon]]
| 157
| This booming metropolis was designed and developed by our very own Chairman Rose.
|- style="background:#FFF"
| [[File:Galar Freezington SwSh.png|100px]]
| [[Freezington]]
| 9
| None
|}
====Landmarks====
[[File:Galar Wild Area SwSh.png|thumb|200px|A map of the [[Wild Area]], with landmarks indicated by blue squares]]
* [[Wild Area]]
** [[Meetup Spot]]
** [[Rolling Fields]]
** [[Dappled Grove]]
** [[Watchtower Ruins]]
** [[East Lake Axewell]]
** [[West Lake Axewell]]
** [[Axew's Eye]]
** [[South Lake Miloch]]
** [[Giant's Seat]]
** [[North Lake Miloch]]
** [[Motostoke Riverbank]]
** [[Bridge Field]]
** [[Stony Wilderness]]
** [[Dusty Bowl]]
** [[Giant's Mirror]]
** [[Hammerlocke Hills]]
** [[Giant's Cap]]
** [[Lake of Outrage]]
* [[Slumbering Weald]]
* [[Galar Mine]]
* [[Galar Mine No. 2]]
* [[Motostoke Outskirts]]
* [[Glimwood Tangle]]
* [[Route 9 Tunnel]]
[[File:Rose Tower TW.png|thumb|250px|[[Rose Tower]] in [[Pokémon: Twilight Wings]]]]
* [[Rose Tower]]/{{gal|Battle Tower}}
* [[Energy Plant]]
[[File:Master Dojo SwSh.png|thumb|250px|The [[Isle of Armor]]'s [[Master Dojo]]]]
* [[Isle of Armor]]
** [[Fields of Honor]]
** [[Workout Sea]]
** [[Master Dojo]]
** [[Soothing Wetlands]]
** [[Courageous Cavern]]
** [[Loop Lagoon]]
** [[Forest of Focus]]
** [[Warm-Up Tunnel]]
** [[Potbottom Desert]]
** [[Training Lowlands]]
** [[Challenge Road]]
** [[Tower of Darkness]]
** [[Brawlers' Cave]]
** [[Challenge Beach]]
** [[Tower of Waters]]
** [[Honeycalm Sea]]
** [[Honeycalm Island]]
** [[Stepping-Stone Sea]]
** [[Insular Sea]]
[[File:Galar Dyna Tree Hill SwSh.png|thumb|250px|The [[Crown Tundra]]'s [[Dyna Tree Hill|Dyna Tree]]]]
* [[Crown Tundra]]
** [[Slippery Slope]]
** [[Max Lair]]
** [[Freezington]]
** [[Frostpoint Field]]
** [[Giant's Bed]]
** {{Gal|Rock Peak Ruins}}
** {{Gal|Iron Ruins}}
** [[Old Cemetery]]
** [[Snowslide Slope]]
** {{Gal|Iceberg Ruins}}
** [[Tunnel to the Top]]
** [[Path to the Peak]]
** [[Crown Shrine]]
** [[Giant's Foot]]
** [[Roaring-Sea Caves]]
** [[Frigid Sea]]
** [[Three-Point Pass]]
** [[Split-Decision Ruins]]
** [[Ballimere Lake]]
** [[Lakeside Cave]]
** [[Dyna Tree Hill]]

====Animated series-exclusive====
{| style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background: #{{galar color dark}}; {{roundy|5px}}; border: 2px solid #{{galar color}}"
|- style="color:#FFF"
! style="background:#{{galar color}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Picture
! style="background:#{{galar color}}" | Location
! style="background:#{{galar color}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Description
|- style="background:#FFF"
| [[File: Ancient Castle.png|100px]]
| [[Ancient castle]]
| style="text-align:left" | An ancient castle located near [[Hammerlocke]] that serves as one of [[Diana]]'s hideouts.
|- style="background:#FFF"
| [[File:Karna Poké Ball factory.png|100px]]
| [[Karna's Poké Ball factory]]
| style="text-align:left" | A factory run by [[Karna]] that produces custom [[Poké Ball]]s.
|- style="background:#FFF"
|}

===Appearance===
====In-game====
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{| cellpadding="2" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background:#{{galar color dark}}; {{roundy|5px}} border:2px solid #{{galar color}}"
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{roundytl|5px}}" | [[File:Galar Sw DLC.png|364px]]
| {{roundytr|5px}}" | [[File:Galar Sh.png|200px]]
|- style="background:#fff; font-size:80%;"
| Galar as seen in {{color2|000|Pokémon Sword and Shield|Pokémon Sword}} with the {{color2|000|Expansion Pass}} (Version 1.3.0+)
| Galar as seen in {{color2|000|Pokémon Sword and Shield|Pokémon Shield}} (Version 1.1.1 or earlier)
|-
| class="roundy" colspan="2" style="border:2px solid #{{Galar color dark}}; background:#{{Galar color light}}; width:95px" | [[File:Victor Mindscape.png|240px]]
|-
| colspan="2" | {{color2|000|Victor (Masters)|Victor}}'s {{color2|000|sync move}} mindscape from {{color2|000|Pokémon Masters EX}}
|}
* Between [[Pokémon Sword and Shield|Pokémon Sword and Pokémon Shield]], the two version-exclusive [[Gym]]s show up in different colors on the map. After the release of [[The Isle of Armor]], an extra set of train tracks and a train station were added to the main part of the Galar map. After the release of [[The Crown Tundra]], an additional set of train tracks was added. These train tracks appear even if the player has not purchased the [[Pokémon Sword and Shield Expansion Pass]].

==Galar League==
{{main|Galar League}}
The Galar League is the regional [[Pokémon League]] of the Galar region. Trainers who have received a letter of [[endorsement]] may compete in the Gym Challenge. After obtaining the eight [[Badge]]s of the region, a Trainer may participate in the annual Champion Cup at [[Wyndon Stadium]].

===Gym Leaders===
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background: #{{Galar color dark}}; border: 4px solid #{{Galar color}};" colspan=4 cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|-
! style="background: #{{Galar color dark}};" colspan="7" | {{color|{{Galar color light}}|Galar League}}
|-
! style="background: #{{Galar color dark}};" colspan="4" | {{color2|{{Galar color light}}|Generation VIII}}
! style="background: #{{Galar color dark}};" colspan="3" | {{color2|{{Galar color light}}|Region|Region:}} {{color2|{{Galar color light}}|Galar}}
|-
! colspan="2" style="background: #{{Galar color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | {{color|{{Galar color dark}}|Gym Leader Japanese}}
! style="background: #{{Galar color light}};" | {{color|{{Galar color dark}}|Location Japanese}}
! colspan="2" style="background: #{{Galar color light}};" | {{color2|{{Galar color dark}}|Type}}
! colspan="2" style="background: #{{Galar color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | {{color2|{{Galar color dark}}|Badge}}
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{{gldr|col=2|tcol=2|bcol=2|type=Water|logo=yes|pic=VSNessa.png|ldr=Nessa|djap=ルリナ|drm=Rurina|loc=Hulbury|cjap=バウタウン|crm=Bow Town|bdg=Water|size=x100px}}
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{{gldr2|type=Fighting|logo=yes|pic=VSBea.png|size=x100px|ldr=Bea|djap=サイトウ|drm=Saitou{{sup/8|Sw}}|type2=Ghost|pic2=VSAllister.png|size2=x100px|ldr2=Allister|djap2=オニオン|drm2=Onion{{sup/8|Sh}}|loc=Stow-on-Side|cjap=ラテラルタウン|crm=Lateral Town|bdg=Fighting|bdg2=Ghost}}
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===Champion Cup===
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==Trivia==
* Galar is the only [[core series]] [[region]] to:
** Not have a [[Pokémon academy]].
** Not have an [[Elite Four]].
*** A similar role is fulfilled by the Champion Cup.
** Contain a single landmass with a map that does not fit on the screen. Previous regions with multiple maps either [[Kanto|contained]] or [[Alola|were]] archipelagos.
** Introduce four [[fossil]]s, the most of any region so far.
*** Despite this, the region does not beat the record for most Fossil Pokémon introduced (five in [[Kanto]]) due to the Galarian Fossil Pokémon being unable to evolve.
** Have two [[Gym Leader]]s resign from their posts over the course of a single game's plot.
* Galar is the first region to:
** Contain no settlements that end in "City" or "Town" in their English names.
** Have a {{type|Dark}} Gym.
** Not have a [[Victory Road]].
** To introduce Fossil Pokémon that are not {{type|Rock}}, incapable of {{pkmn|breeding}}, and do not have genders.
** Introduce no [[Mythical Pokémon]] at the time of its release.
** Not have a [[series]] of {{aniseries|PTS}} solely dedicated to [[Ash Ketchum]] fully exploring the region in a journey.
* In keeping with the sports theme of the region's Gyms, the names of the cities and towns in Galar are derived from sports terminology.
* Galar has the second fewest numbered [[route]]s of any core series region, with a total of ten. [[Paldea]] has none at all.
* Galar is tied with [[Unova]] as the region that has the most [[Gym Leader]]s, with a total of 14.
* In {{aniseries|JN}}, Galar is often depicted with a cloudy, gray sky, similar to the common weather of the country it's based on, the {{wp|United Kingdom}}.
* Galar having a rough history with the [[Kalos]] region, as revealed in {{g|Legends: Z-A}}, is similar to the history between England and France, the latter of which Kalos is based on.
* The {{wp|Demonym|adjectival form}} of Galar is "Galarian", as seen in the term "[[Galarian form]]".

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| กาลาร์ ''Galar''
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==Related articles==
* [[Pokémon Sword and Shield]]
* [[Generation VIII]]
* [[Galarian form]]

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Talk:Power item

2025-11-11T15:15:08Z

Poppy Appletree: /* Legends Z-A */ new section

I have a question.Although the page says that the power items are affected by pokerus, i was ev training not to long ago and the powers didnt give me the evs. Hell, they didnt have any effect at all. I was training my Gallade and fighting bibarels, which give me 4 atk's since i had pokerus on it, and i killed about 4 of them upon level up and should have gotten 48 evs, im=f my calculations are correct. Am i doing something wrong?--[[User: Mr T Tar]]
:No, not at all. The Pokémon doesn't get the extra stat points all at once, it gets them gradually as it grows, with all of them by level 100. It'll get maybe one extra point per level (but with nothing to compare it to, you'd actually need an exact clone to see). Trust me, your Gallade will have maximum Attack by 100 if its nature is Adamant. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 04:31, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

weird, because my friend says that it should get them all at once(apparently his did). Yeah its an adamant gah what a relief i thought my game was screwed up >.<.

I think it depends on the level the training starts at, because I had a lv 28 or so Monferno who was battling bidoof with the power bracer (the attack one) and got 27 more attack when he leveled up, so its probably spread out so if it starts at level one you'll get them slowly, but at higher levels you'll get them in a larger set for a few levels until it evens out [[User:Triceratops9|Triceratops9]] 01:01, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
== Clarification question... ==

does the given item completely overwrite the natural EVs that a given pokemon is supposed to supply?

for example; if I have a Power Anklet on my pokemon (promotes speed), and I go fight Chansies (who give HP EVs) which of the following happens?

4 Spd EVs
4 Spd EVs + 2 HP EVs

what about if I kill a Golbat?

4 Spd EVs
4 Spd EVs + 2 Spd EVs

I'm just wondering on this, because if it's the second option, I'll just stick to my macho brace...
:I think it does. What I do is just use the Macho Brace and train against Rattata/Raticate/Spearow/Fearow on {{rt|225}} for Speed, though... '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 22:58, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

==Answer==

The power items do not overwrite the regular EVs given.
So if you have the power anklet and fight a Chansey the Evs given would be 4 Spd EVs (from the anklet) plus 2 HP EVs (from the Chansey)
--[[User:Trainer-c|Trainer-c]] 08:50, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

== Confuzzling Sort of GameFreak Thing..... ==

So if I gave a Pokemon a Power Bracer, in example, would this mean that no matter '''which''' Pokemon I battle, I will always get 4 EV's added along with the EV i got from the Pokemon I battled? So:
* Magikarp is holding a Power bracer. I battle a Bulbasaur.
Do

<big> or </big>

Do I get 4 Attack EV's

<big> or </big>

Do I get 1 Speed EV <big> ? </big> [[User:Tesh|TESH]][[User Talk:Tesh|TALK]][[User:Tesh/Sandbox|SAND]] 19:55, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

==Correct==
You are correct, the Power items at 4 EVs to their chosen stat along with the EVs gained from defeating the Pokémon.
So fighting a Bulbasaur while holding the Power Bracer, you would get 4 Attack EV's + 1 Speed EV.

==Macho Brace==
Does macho brace reduce the in-battle speed? or it makes the pokémon get regular EVs for speed instead of doubled? '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 01:50, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
:It reduces the Speed in battle only; I can confirm this after getting Speed increases of 15+ points when trying to raise the stats on my Pokémon for the Battle Tower and for Battle Revolution. [[User:Diachronos|Diachronos]] 16:20, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
:Well I actually confirmed that long ago and added to the article... but anyways thank you. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 18:06, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

==Exp. Share + Ev Item==
Say pokémon "a" is holding the power lens and pokémon "b" is holding the exp. share, does pokémon "b" gain the +4 Sp.Atk Evs from the power lens when pokémon "a" defeats an opponent? [[User:DesiAdame|DesiAdame]] 18:50, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
:Nopes. Pokémon "b" gets the normal amount of EVs the wild/foe Pokémon gives. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 03:13, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

== I've been wondering... ==
if Pokemon "a" holds, say, a Power Lens, and Pokémon "b" is another pokémon, and both are in your party, what happens if:
*a battles and runs away
*a doesn't battle, but b runs away
*a battles, is switched for b, who then runs away
*a doesn't battle and b defats a pokemon
*a battles, but switches for b, who defeats the foe
-- Sk8torchic

:wait... is it 2-on-2? '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 04:50, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
::1-on-1 Me and my fellow torchics agree on this - Sk8torchic 22:22, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

This is what happens respectively:
*no Pokémon receive EVs
*no Pokémon receive EVs
*no Pokémon receive EVs
*'''b''' gets all EVs, but '''a''' doesn't
*'''a''' and '''b''' receive the same amount of EVs the foe gives (meaning if it is a Haunter, then '''a''' and '''b''' get 2 Sp.Atk EVs) '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 03:11, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
so if '''a'''holds one these items in the last one, it still counts toward the EV's? i'm REALLY confused as to all this. I've never really ev trained before. Me and my fellow torchics agree on this - Sk8torchic 16:53, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
:In the example, '''a''' was holding a Power Lens, so it got 2 Sp.Atk EVs that Haunter gives + 4 EVs for the Power Lens for a total of 6 and '''b''' got only 2. And yes, I agree this is pretty confusing when you just discover that EVs exist, but if you keep on training, it becomes simple. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 22:57, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

==Speed Reduction==
Do the power items simply slow down the wearer like the Macho Brace or Lagging Tail, or does it actually subtract from the stat like the Tomato Berry. If the latter, whats the point of the anklet? {{u|Starmie121}} 16:10 (UTC)
:The power items simply slow down the wearer like the Macho Brace (but not exactly like the Lagging Tail, which causes the wearer to go ''last'').  — [[User:Laoris|Laoris]] ([[User_Talk:Laoris|Blah]]) 16:18, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

== Macho Brace and Rare Candies ==

If you use a Macho Brace on a pokemon, and you level it up with a rare candy, do you still get the benefits of the Macho Brace?
For instance, if you have a dratini and you raise it from level 1 to 2--using a rare candy--do its EVs still get the boost? Or is it battle-experience only?
:Its base stats improve, but EVs can only be improved from battling other Pokémon or by using a Carbos, Vitamin, etc.--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[User talk:RexRacer|Racer''']] 01:55, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

== Effect of Pokérus ==

Today I was training a Pokérus infected Pokémon while holding the Power Weight and fighting Wooper on Route 212. Since Wooper give 1 HP EV and the Power Weight gives 4, with the addition of Pokérus that comes to 10 HP EVs per battle, if Pokérus doubles the extra EVs from the Power Weight like it says here. After counting up 255 I went over to Sunyshore to pick up the Effort Ribbon, just to be sure, (I'd already gotten all the other EVs I needed, using the Macho Brace), but she didn't give me the ribbon. I figured maybe I had just miscounted but after a few more battles, she still wouldn't hand it over. Finally I decided to count up the EVs by feeding it Pomeg Berries (reduce EVs by 10), and it only ate 12 of them. So I was off by 111-120 points, which is more like what you'd expect if the Power Weight just gave a flat 4 EVs not affected by the Pokérus at all. Can anyone contend this or should I just change it? [[User:Dragoness|Dragoness]] 00:07, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

:Update: Using the Power Weight still, I've counted up an additional 164 assumed EVs and the lady still won't give me the Effort Ribbon, which makes me wonder if the Power Weight does override the Pokémon's natural EV bonus after all. [[User:Dragoness|Dragoness]] 19:47, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
::Update2: Ok it stopped at 12 Pomegs again. I'm giving up and going with the Macho Brace. I have no idea what's going on anymore. Someone else can test it. [[User:Dragoness|Dragoness]] 19:53, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

This is not as you think.

The Effort Ribbon is rewarded for maxing ALL your EVs, meaning you have to get all 510 EVs to get the Effort Ribbon. It is not awarded for getting 255 for one stat.

The berries removes 10 each, That is true. Although it removes 10 each, eating one berry when you are over 100 will always reduce the stat to 100 even though you are at 255 or 105, that berry will reduce your stat to 100. This is why you only ate 12 berries multiple times.
[[User:Growlithe1996|Growlithe1996]] ([[User talk:Growlithe1996|talk]]) 16:56, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

== Effect on IV passing ==

In recently I have find a unconfirmed(?) special information, from HGSS,as one of the parents when put in the day care while holding a Power item, their specific IV will pass down to the egg. (for example, if a Sneasel who has 31 Attack IV, while in Day Care it held Power Bracer, the egg will result in 31 Attack IV) Can anyone could test about it? If it is true, if both parents held the item as in Day Care, will both parents specific IV will pass down? Also if both parents hold the same power item, which one will choose?(Since I didn't have HGSS).[[User:chungkingpun|chungkingpun]] 06:03, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

== Embargo? ==

This has happened to me many times while training on route 226. I have a Macho Brace equipped, and then encounter a wild bannette. It uses embargo on me. I know my speed obviously has returned to normal, but what about EVs earned from the battle. Are they still doubled?[[User:Morgil27|Morgil27]] 06:03, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

:If Embargo is still in effect by the end of the battle, then no. Embargo negates ''all'' effects of an item. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 13:12, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

== Breeding ==

According to [http://serebii.net/heartgoldsoulsilver/breeding.shtml this article], these items have an extra use in HG/SS. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 05:12, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

== Breeding Question ==

This page is the only place I've found mention of a 50% chance to pass down IV's for the stat that a Power item affects, including the Pokemon Breeding page. I have seen mention of a 50% chance to pass the IV along if both parents have Power items. Thus, I am wondering if the 50% chance is confirmed. [[User:Ronin316|Ronin316]] 03:12, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
:This article is incorrect. Apparently what actually happens is that if only one parent holds a power item, that parent's relevant IV will be passed down 100% of the time. If each parent holds a power item, either of the parents' relevant IVs will be passed down, but never both at the same time. [[User:Ultraflame|Ultraflame]] 02:49, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
::Thank you for clarifying that for me. Now I am un-confused. [[User:Ronin316|Ronin316]] 17:11, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

== I'm confused? ==

The article says "Promotes HP gain on level up, but halves Speed stat in battle. Adds 4 HP EVs after each battle, regardless of the Pokémon fought", so do I get the EVs on level up, or after the battle? [[User:Miscs|Miscs]] 10:58, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
:You get the EVs after the battle, but they don't show as stats until you level up. See {{EV}} for more information. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:03, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

==Making sure...==
I have a level 11 Panpour whose Sp. Atk I want to maximize. But I also want to max her Attack. So, she's defeating Pokémon like Lillipup and Patrat while holding the Power Lens. She was also given Proteins and Calciums. I want to make sure that what I'm doing is right. Is it? [[User:RedYoshi|RedYoshi]] 21:37, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
:Well, have you bred the Panpour? --[[User:YoshisWorld|'''☆Yoshis''']][[User talk:YoshisWorld|'''World☆''']] 21:40, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
:No. I got her from a girl in the Dreamyard. [[User:RedYoshi|RedYoshi]] 21:41, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
::Well then you can't fully maximize it if it was not bred, as it doesn't have the right nature. But you can still make it relatively high. --[[User:YoshisWorld|'''☆Yoshis''']][[User talk:YoshisWorld|'''World☆''']] 22:01, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
:::Oh wait, never mind. How do I know it's not the right nature? Anyway, what nature is it? --[[User:YoshisWorld|'''☆Yoshis''']][[User talk:YoshisWorld|'''World☆''']] 22:03, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
:::Mild nature. I think her characteristic is "michievous." So, what I'm doing is wrong? Then how do I maximize two stats at once? By they way, she is a level 20 Simipour now. [[User:RedYoshi|RedYoshi]] 20:35, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

== Clarification ==

Just to clarify... do the power items give the bonus after every battle, or every pokemon defeated?
:I have tested this, and it appears to be after a Pokémon gets defeated. I'm changing this page. [[User:Tk3141|Tk3141]] 17:16, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

== EV-enhancing item vs. Power Item ==

This isn't a rename request (at this time), but I do notice that with the exception of the Macho Brace, all of these items are called "Power ______". I know I've personally referred to them as "[[Power item]]s", but do we have any data for alternate or official names these items are known by? --''[[User:Stratelier|Stratelier]]'' 19:58, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

== Macho Brace Vs Power Items + Pokérus ==

Which is better when stacked with Pokérus, the article doesn't make it clear. I know the Macho Brace doubles all EVs and stacks with Pokérus, and the power items focuses on one EV and gives that 4.

You see I'm horde Speed EV training a Timid 5IV (HP, Def, SpA, SpD, Spd) Charmander I just breed and I am confused on which of the following happens.

a horde of Wingull gives 5Spd evs., The Macho brace doubles it to 10 and then Pokérus doubles it to 20.

or

a horde of Wingull gives 5Spd evs., The Power Anklet adds 4 more Spd Evs to it, and then Pokérus doubles it to 18.

or

a horde of Wingull gives 5Spd Evs. The Power Anklet adds (4x5) 20 more Spd Evs to it, and then Pokérus doubles it to 50.

Or does it go some other way, 10:49 Am without my coffee yet is making it impossible for me to comprehend until I get my caffeine levels to critical mass? [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 15:50, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
:Power items add 4 EVs per Pokémon defeated. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 15:59, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

== Does the Power Items Stakc with themselves and each other? ==

So I know the items stack with Pokérus, and when done with a Horde Battle, EV trainer can be sped up 5-folds or more...anyways what I don't know is this... do the items stack with themselves and each other as well? Like, if I sent my lead Pokémon into battle with a Power Bracer against a horde of Weepingbel, and then switched it out with a Charizard with another Power Bracer and KO all the Weepingbel with earthquake...would only 1 Power Bracer go into effect, or would both? What if one had a Power Bracer and the other a Power Anklet? And Appologies in advance if I didn't ask my question clear enough...I am sick as a rained out Houndoom and my chest feels like its filled with Gloom's honey drool. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 15:08, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
:I am sure the power items only affect the holder. (Your question sounds like you're implying they affect entire party). [[User:Eridanus|Eridanus]] ([[User talk:Eridanus|talk]]) 15:13, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
::(ec)Yeah, I'm not sure what you mean by stack, but they would affect whichever Pokémon was holding the item, and both would go off as long as both Pokémon were in the battle in any way. So the lead Pokémon would get their Power Bracer effects and the Charizard would get their Power Bracer effects, but neither would get both. --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 15:14, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
:::What about if Exp. Share was on, would the other Pokemon get 8 points from the two Power Bracers instead of 4? [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 16:54, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
::::The Power items only affect the Pokémon holding the item. --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 16:58, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

== Not in Platinum ==

The page claims that the Power Accessories have their IV-breeding effect in Platinum, but I seriously don't think that's true. I just began breeding Horsea in Platinum, and my parents included a female Seadra holding an Everstone (nature reasons) and a Ditto with a Speed IV of 31 holding a Power Anklet. The offspring Horsea did not have 31 Speed IVs. Just thought I'd point this out, because I feel like this could use some further looking into. (Meanwhile, it's back to HeartGold for me.) '''[[User:SharKing|SharKing]] [[User talk:SharKing|Productions]]''' 14:19, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
:Yep, it was a new feature in HGSS. I'm not sure why that was there. I've corrected the page and contacted the user that added it. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 14:41, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

== Secondary Effect in Gen 7 ==

Do these items still pass on IVs when breeding in Gen 7? ''' ''Scribbl'' ''' 07:05, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

== Move ==

The page's current title, EV-enhancing item, was used only to include the tangentially related Macho Brace among the power items. This was done because, at the time, items did not have their own pages, so it made the most sense to try and include somewhat related items on the same page.

However, now that all items have their own pages, there is no longer any reason to keep the Macho Brace on the same page as the power items. "Power item" is [https://www.pokemon.com/us/play-pokemon/about/video-game-glossary/ officially used], so I propose we move the article to that title and take the Macho Brace out of the article's scope. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:27, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

I agree! [[User:Kirsten Thomas|Kirsten Thomas]] ([[User talk:Kirsten Thomas|talk]]) 10:14, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

== Legends Z-A ==

I can confirm that they still give +8 in Legends Z-A. [[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy Appletree]] ([[User talk:Poppy Appletree|talk]]) 15:15, 11 November 2025 (UTC)

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== Sun2020 ==

Hey! I have a strong reason to believe {{user|Sun2020}} is yet ''another'' sockpuppet of {{user|Kittystyler}}. Sun2020's writing style for [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Ash_Ketchum&type=revision&diff=3088750&oldid=3088687 this edit] to [[Ash Ketchum]] is extremely reminiscent of Kittystyler's old writing style for [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Ash_Ketchum&type=revision&diff=2955518&oldid=2955392 this edit] to the same article. Do you think you can look into it? Thank you! [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 21:20, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
:Why does Kittystyler refuse to give up? I find these repeated comebacks very tiresome. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 21:25, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
::Because they're a troll, especially considering they refused to even acknowledge the existence of their original talk page when they were still active here. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 21:28, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
:::They were indeed Kittystyler and have been dealt with.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:46, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
::::Okay, thanks! :D [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 07:09, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

== Archive 10 ==

I removed the link to an image that doesn't exist on the Archives in the topic I wrote. [[Special:Diff/3090821]] --[[User:TheICTLiker4|'''キー''']][[Special:Contributions/TheICTLiker4|'''Ａ''']][[User talk:TheICTLiker4|'''コン''']] 10:08, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

== Template approval ==

If you have the time, please let me know if {{red link|User:Daniel Carrero/Puzzle}} needs anything to be approved (any change in contents, layout, etc.). If/when possible, I'd like it to be moved back to the template namespace. I also asked about aproving it on Discord, though I'm still waiting to see if anyone will reply there.

I created that template and used it in these pages:

* [[List of puzzles (PPL)]]
* [[List of puzzles (PPC)]]

--[[User:Daniel Carrero|Daniel Carrero]] ([[User talk:Daniel Carrero|talk]]) 16:30, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
:I think asking staff who has more knowledge on the side games would give a better opinion.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:57, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

== Pseudo-legendary ==

Hi Force Fire, thanks for adding Dragapult to the [[Pseudo-legendary Pokémon]] article (which I requested on Discord since I don't have edit access). The box for Dragapult is bigger than the other boxes in the first section, though. [[User:Qzekrom|Qzekrom]] ([[User talk:Qzekrom|talk]]) 18:55, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
:You're welcome. I'm aware that the Dragapult image is large, I did try to resize it to make it smaller (as to make the template even with the others) but felt that it made the image look too small and unidentifiable, so I just left it as is.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:57, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
:: Is there a way make it smaller for the section that shows all [[Pseudo-legendary Pokémon]] together? It jsut getting clutter up and hard to see them all.--[[User:Jacob9594|Jacob Kogan]] ([[User talk:Jacob9594|talk]]) 05:59, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
:::That's the section I was talking about. Felt that making the Dragapult image smaller made the image unidentifiable.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:05, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

== Two things ==

# Why did you revert me at those pages about types?
# I'm still waiting for approval of these pages:
#* [[User:TheICTLiker4/E O]]
#* [[User:TheICTLiker4/Template:NewMove]]
Please respond quickly. --[[User:TheICTLiker4|'''TheI''']][[Special:Contributions/TheICTLiker4|'''CTLi''']][[User talk:TheICTLiker4|'''ker4''']] 08:30, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
:#Mass updates involving multiple article must be approved by a staff member. You can't just do as you please.
:#None of those are up to standards, especially the latter.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 09:09, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
::#Okay. I will follow this rule, even while moving pages.
::#Both pages are marked for mainspacing, and they're awaiting approval. “[...] especially the latter” — you are wrong, as some content is hidden by <includeonly> because if not, the page would be in categories reserved for move pages, and [[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] has fixed that. --[[User:TheICTLiker4|'''TheI''']][[Special:Contributions/TheICTLiker4|'''CTLi''']][[User talk:TheICTLiker4|'''ker4''']] 18:58, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
:::Granted I didn't really look at the coding and just saw the template as is and thought that it looked incomplete and far too different to that actual "NewX" templates that we have.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 01:48, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
::::But what about the first page I listed in this subject ([[User:TheICTLiker4/E O]])? --[[User:TheICTLiker4|'''TheI''']][[Special:Contributions/TheICTLiker4|'''CTLi''']][[User talk:TheICTLiker4|'''ker4''']] 20:00, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

== What's the point? ==

Why did you revert my episode title changes? SM003 is CLEARLY a pun, that's not difficult to see at all. We've added pun titles before. So why not now? And the others were put in the correct order of the Japanese title (not the translations of them) and added with words that needed to be added, like "region", when region is clearly in the title and has been included in other episode titles that had the Japanese characters for the word "region" in them before? Why stop now? We don't NEED to rely off translations from people over at Serebii. Other people CAN add titles as well. If there's a problem with them, at the very least explain why, I'm so annoyed with you being angry at me. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 09:43, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
:And I've done nothing wrong to deserve this from just a single admin. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 09:45, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
::I rolled back your edit on the episode list article based off your SM003 edit. The other changes, while questionable, were fine. As for SM003, as we discussed before, not everything is a pun. "Fushigi da ne" can be an actual phrase. Just because "fushigi" is in the title, doesn't automatically make it a pun.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 10:01, 12 January 2020 (UTC)

== Template edit request ==

Given the fact that Go is on a pretty constant catching spree, should the category for episodes in which a main character obtains a new Pokémon be included in the new episode template? Kinda like how the category for Mythical Pokémon appearances was included in it while Ash had Meltan/Melmetal in his active team? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 15:24, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
:I've brought up the suggestion with the other staff members.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 16:43, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
::Having the category there before the episode airs is a bit assumptious, especially if said episode isn't an episode where Go catches anything. So the category is not going in the template.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:23, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

== Noise Reduction on Gen 8 Pokemon images ==

I've done some easy experimenting with noise reduction on the grainy Pokemon images in photoshop, with much improved quality. Was wondering if there was any reason this hasn't been done already. [[User:Lanthanum|Lanthanum]] ([[User talk:Lanthanum|talk]]) 05:42, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

== Pichu Posse members ==

Dear ForceFire,

I've been in the process of reviewing the appearances of the Pichu Brothers and their associates in the anime. However I noticed there were some Pokémon listed on the Pichu Brothers page as members of the Posse who wouldn't fit the description of being a "friend" and are simply recurring wild Pokémon such as Snorlax, Houndour and the Squirtle Squad. Feraligatr and Murkrow other recurring wild Pokémon, that are yet to have a mention anywhere, however their appearances are brief like the others. Should they have separate sections on the [[Recurring wild Pokémon in the anime]] page or should all the recurring Big Town Pokémon be listed on one page with the subsections "Pichu Brothers", "Pichu Posse" and "Other Big Town Pokémon"? Regards, [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 13:41, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

== Why did you undo my Wedgehurst edit? ==

[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Wedgehurst&diff=3097122&oldid=3097003 You didn't even leave a reason why.]] [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 17:05, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
:It's not notable. The other trainers "not noticing the Slowpoke" isn't notable either. The nurse knowing it isn't suppose to be some in-universe thing. Just like the bulletin boards in Black and White announcing the Pokemon outbreaks, it's not meant to be an in-universe thing where everyone in that universe knows about the outbreak (I don't recall other NPC characters commenting on the B/W outbreaks).--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:25, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

== Origins Corrections ==

Hello! I am new to bulbapedia and I saw you reverted some of my changes to the verb conjugation implying uncertainty in two different articles. You mentioned that I would be allowed to do this in the future in the case that I have an official source. What constitutes an official source in this case? I ask because I would be willing to write to someone (maybe a developer?) in order to get confirmation but I do not wish to do this if it is unlikely written confirmation would not count as an official source. Are interviews with developers acceptable? Ideally, if you could link me to some sort of list that includes examples of acceptable sources that would be very helpful for me. Thank you for your time. [[User:DeterministicSpaceRichard|DeterministicSpaceRichard]] ([[User talk:DeterministicSpaceRichard|talk]])
:An interview with the original Japanese (or Western, in James Turner's case) designer is the absolute source. An example would be the interview with Pikachu's designer where she revealed its origin. We don't have a list because interviews with the designers regarding Pokemon origins are scarce.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:54, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

== why did you revert my edit? ==

I'm completely new to editing this wiki and was wondering why you [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Ponyta_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&diff=3097546&oldid=3097545 undid my first edit]? You didn't leave a reason in the reversion's edit summary and I didn't think my edit was "bad". Is there some policy about the trivia/name origin section I don't know about? {{unsigned|Twisted Code}}
:I had already removed that previously, as I felt that it was not really necessary to point out.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:28, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
::By that standard, what makes anything else on this wiki "necessary", especially stuff in the trivia section? I don't really understand the line you're drawing, as it seems like it could go either way. Then again, I'm new here so what do I know?¯\_(ツ)_/¯--[[User:Twisted Code|Twisted Code]] ([[User talk:Twisted Code|talk]]) 18:33, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
:::If you don't mind me inserting myself, I think that that's a worthy trivia point. I didn't realize it until reading it here. It's the exact kind of thing I'd expect to see in a trivia section. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 19:31, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
::::Trivia point, sure. Just don't think it's worth pointing out in the name origin section as the line before already conveys what is being said well enough without trying to be witty.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 07:32, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
:::::maybe we could move the "based on a unicorn" trivia point altogether then? Seems that point being in *specifically* the name origin subsection is the issue. I'd like to point out the pun one way or another, as I thought it was a clever quip from the developers.--[[User:Twisted Code|Twisted Code]] ([[User talk:Twisted Code|talk]]) 13:46, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
::::::Uh... no. That line is meant to be in the origins sections as it's detailing what Galarian Ponyta might be based off. The extra bit about "unique horn" isn't necessary.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:38, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
:::::::... And "unique horn" supports that point that it "might be" based on a unicorn. I don't see what the big deal is here, or why one piece of trivia is more "necessary" than any other piece? Is there some sort of rule against acknowledging puns (even to support another point) or something? --[[User:Twisted Code|Twisted Code]] ([[User talk:Twisted Code|talk]]) 13:21, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
:::::::After a bit of thought and reading [[WP:WP:WIN|one of Wikipedia's (a.k.a. the mother of all wikis or "MOAW") policies concerning impasses like this]], I've decided I'm willing to just leave it go. Mostly because I know you're an admin and I don't feel like challenging the "staff won't bite" claim in the [[template:welcome]] message, but also because this impasse is such an enigma to me that it doesn't feel worthwhile trying to understand it — especially in light of the policy I mentioned (which presumably also applies to any wiki created in the same spirit of collaboration). That said, please register and take into account my STRONG objection to your decision in this matter, and on that note, have a nice day :-)--[[User:Twisted Code|Twisted Code]] ([[User talk:Twisted Code|talk]]) 22:43, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
::::::::Apologies for the late response. It saying that Galarian Ponyta might be based of a Unicorn is suffice enough, without the need to be witty or smart. Like I said, if anything, the pun goes in the main trivia section, not the name origin section. As for the Wikipedia policy, we are not Wikipedia. We do not share the same rules or guidelines (well, we might share some, but not all, and definitely not that one).--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:32, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
:::::::::I accept that explanation, though I'm struggling slightly to reconcile it with my original thinking (though in any case, my initial question is settled). As for the thing about Wikipedia: yes I realize this is not Wikipedia, nor is it a project belonging to Wikimedia; what I meant by what I said was that, as both wikis are, by nature, collaborative projects and that policy is conducive to cooperation, I felt it could be applicable here, not that it would actually be enforced because, as you said, this isn't Wikipedia. Sorry about that, I should've been more clear.--[[User:Twisted Code|Twisted Code]] ([[User talk:Twisted Code|talk]]) 19:10, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

== Sobble's Origin for Trivia Section ==

We know Sobble is based on a chameleon and it says that's it's Water-typing is based on the basilisk lizard, but here's another thing you could add which makes a lot of sense (like how it also connects to water). Below are the reasons/facts and links.

Because of its color scheme and type, Sobble could be based on the Veiled chameleon. Even though it's not aquatic, it has a special adaption to collect water in its habitat where there is little water. This species of chameleon has a casque (the helmet-like protrusion on top of its head) that collects water. At night, droplets of moisture roll down the casque and into the chameleon's mouth.

The way the droplets flow down the Veiled chameleon's face could give the illusion that it's crying which could explain the teardrop markings on Sobble's face. The adult males of this species have defined bands of blue and yellow. Those two colors are part of Sobble's color scheme.

Here are the links for more information: https://animals.sandiegozoo.org/animals/chameleon (As you scroll down, start reading where is says "A water-catching casque.") https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veiled_chameleon

Here is a picture of the adult male Veiled chameleon: https://flchams.com/chameleon/adult-veiled-chameleons-for-sale/ [[User:Macpika|Macpika]] ([[User talk:Macpika|talk]]) 04:02, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
:Its behavior and appearance is similar enough, you can add it if you want to, just remember to use "may be based off" or "appears to be based off" rather than "is based off", since it's still speculation.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:11, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

== Adding Tabs ==

ForceFire,
How do I add tabs to pages? I want to add a trivia tab to a move page, [[G-Max Wind Rage]]. How do I do that?
[[User:PeakA|PeakA]] ([[User talk:PeakA|talk]]) 18:33, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

== How is that correct? ==

[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Chandelure_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&curid=115955&diff=3102742&oldid=3102717] Isn't it pronounced "home-ige"? Thus it should be "a" instead of "an". [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 16:20, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
:You need to google how to pronounce it. It comes in two English-speaking flavors and isn't worth making a change for. [[User:ArcToraphim|Kai]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 17:02, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
::Sorry if I'm being a pest, but the first result I found is literally "hom·age". [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 17:09, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
:::And underneath that is how to pronounce it. "/ˈ(h)ämij/" [https://www.google.com/search?q=homage+pronunciation&oq=homage+&aqs=chrome.0.69i59l3j69i57j0j69i60l3.3435j1j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 The h is in parentheses for a reason.] If you straight up google 'herb' like you did with homage, you'll get the same thing, even tho we don't say the 'h' at all. [[User:ArcToraphim|Kai]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 17:28, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
:::::I think you picked a poor example, because everyone I hear that says "herb" uses the "h". However, it's clear I'm not going to make any progress talking about this, so you'll probably be happy to know that I give up. [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 17:40, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

== Question ==
Do you believe that Ōkido (オーキド) means anything in Japanese? [[User:Wc12271991|Wc12271991]] ([[User talk:Wc12271991|talk]]) 22:19, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

== Pseudo-legendary Pokémon ==
Now that Ash has captured a Dragonite, can you unlock the Pseudo-legendary Pokémon page so I can add that information to it, please? [[User:Seabiscuit2020|Seabiscuit2020]] ([[User talk:Seabiscuit2020|talk]]) 17:40, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
:The pseudo legendary page is '''never''' getting unprotected. If an edit needs to be made, request it on the talk page of the article or go to an admin.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:02, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

== Vandal ==

We have a vandal on the loose. Could you or some other admin do something about them? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:46, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
:Never mind. They were just dealt with. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:46, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

== New page ==

Thank you,ForceFire for helping me out in the talk. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 14:25, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

== Split ==

Could the Wyndon Stadium article be split to have a subpage for the Champion tournaments the same way as "Pokémon League (Alola)" was split to have a separate subpage for Title Defense? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:41, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
:I've brought the suggestion up to the others. I personally wouldn't mind it being split, since the page is already large.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:14, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
::Thank you. Please let me know when a decision is made. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:55, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

== Recurring definition? ==

I'm confused. Please explain why {{MTR}} was removed from the recurring wild Pokémon in the anime page? I agree that he is a main character, however he is also a wild Pokémon that has been featured in than one episode, meeting the recurring wild Pokémon criteria. Recurring means just that occurring again. [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 13:52, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
:Meowth doesn't appear every now and then, he appears in every episode (bar B/W, but that has already come and gone), which is the direct opposite of being recurring.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 16:05, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
::Speaking of other things not meeting the criteria … the list of Ash's temporary traveling companions has some questionable additions.

::Ritchie was simply encountered and is listed even though his appearances over three episodes was part of the Team Rocket-Lugia arc, plus Oliver and Luka who appeared during the same period are not.
::Zoey, while she appeared across multiple episodes in Snowpoint City, she simply met up with the group rather than traveled with them.
::Dia is another questionable addition, and while he appeared in two episodes, it was only while Ash was in the alternate dimension. Your thoughts? [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 23:21, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
:::Can Mewtwo of the original series be added? It appeared in two main episodes and multiple specials. [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 08:36, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
:::Zeraora matches the definition of a recurring wild Pokémon: a wild Pokémon that appears in more than one episode and has some enough notable sort of involvement in the plot. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:46, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
::::I'm not sure if there is a criteria for Ash's temporary travelling companions, but I think the idea should be if they're with Ash for more than three episodes and travel from place to place, they should be added. Which I guess would discount Dia. Get second opinions.
::::I'm not sure if major movie characters count? I know there's Slowking there, but it doesn't play a major role in its movie. As for Zeraora, I think it comes down to how many episode appearances counts as "recurring". I don't think Zeroara as much as most of the Pokemon on the recurring article.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 10:05, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
:::::I've sought a second opinion. Thanks for the replies on today's queries. [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 10:55, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

== BW058? ==

I saw the change made to BW058. However I based those additions on the fact that Gym Leader's Pokémon evolving like [[Roark's Cranidos]] has been listed in the past, plus Chili is a recurring character and also the brother of Cilan. {{unsigned|PardescanSlowbro}}
:Roark's Cranidos evolving is notable as it effects Ash's battle with him. The additions you made to BW058 weren't that major and didn't need to be elaborated on.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 09:54, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

== Upload problem ==

I belong to the autoconfirmed members group and recently created my userpage. I can't upload any images and it denied permission saying I must be autoconfirmed. Please look into this issue and I also have have a lot of images from the new series, that I want to upload!! [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 11:27, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
:Image uploading is done over at the [https://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Main_Page Archives], and you have to be autconfirmed over there. Autoconfirmation on the archives is separate than on Bulbapedia. So you have to make some edits on the Archives to become autoconfirmed.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:40, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
Thank you ForceFire for your advice --[[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 15:37, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

I have a doubt,is there any colour difference between Ash's Pikachu in the Japanese and English dub of the pokémon anime? Can you please say something about it! --[[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 15:39, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

== About Dinamax/Gigantamax in the anime ==

When a Poké evolves, here it usually says "x took y episodes to evolve" or something. How will you do with Pokémon that reach that level?For example, I'm doing a Gyarados'page for Lance. I put something like Lance's Gyarados took xxx episodes to dinamax (is that the name we should put?)? Where is this kind of information going to be? In the box with the animal's information?Are there any rules or tutorials already done explaining this? I really appreciate it if you can help me.--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hilaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 13:54, 02 February 2020 (UTC)
:That's probably not going to be noted in the infobox, we don't note "how long" it took for a Pokemon to Mega Evolve. If anything, that goes into the main history section of the article.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 15:24, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
::Thank you--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hilaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 16:08, 02 February 2020 (UTC)

== Champion ==

Lance was mentioned as the Indigo league champion in the preview of SS012. But, the trivia of SS012 has a edit that says he lost his championship somewhere in the middle of the anime. Is it right? --[[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 16:30, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
:Please answer my question quickly [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 14:10, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
::Trivia has since been removed as it needs to be verified if he states that he's an Elite Four member in the original Japanese version.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 14:15, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
I'm sorry about that, actually Lance is mentioned as the member of Kanto Elite four by Go in the preview. I checked it and undid the edit in SS012. Hope you wouldn't mind about the undo and thank you, ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 14:20, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
:I've found Japanese sources describing [[AG097]] that describe Lance as an Elite Four member in his Hoenn appearance as well. He indeed hasn't been referred to as a Champion since the Johto era of the anime. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 14:50, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
::Dhiwakar, please don't add back the trivia until the problem has been resolved. Finnish, if someone can find the Japanese episode and confirm it, I think that would be solid evidence.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 17:02, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
: Okay ForceFire, I assure you I would not add it in the trivia until it is solved. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 17:09, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
: If you don't mind, I shall ask something. Lance was mentioned as the member of Kanto Elite four in the preview of SS012. Isn't it enough to solve the problem? [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 16:54, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
::I'm afraid you're missing the point here. We're trying to solve if he was referred to as an Elite Four members Pokémon in [[AG097]], because that affects the piece of trivia you're wanting to add to SM012. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:02, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
: I get it now,thank you FinnishPokéFan92. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 05:45, 8 February 2020 (UTC)

== Question, out of curiosity ==

When you customize a signature, does that affect signatures that have been already submitted ''before'' said customization? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 09:08, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
:No. The new signatures comes into affect after you've changed it.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 09:29, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
::Okay, thanks. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 09:38, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

== Delete, please ==

I recently moved Porygon's evolution category, following its Evolution item's new formatting. Could you delete the unnecessary redirect that was formed in the process? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:48, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
:Done.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 13:02, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
::Now I've moved the category for Elite Four members' Pokémon to remove an unnecessary uppercase "M". Could you remove the redirect? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 13:23, 12 February 2020 (UTC)
:::Done.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:01, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

== Colour difference ==

Is thre any difference between Ash's Pikachu in the Japanese and English dub of the anime. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 14:40, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
:Please answer this question, ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 13:53, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
::Not too sure what you mean here. Could be a number of factors.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:45, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
Sorry about that, i forgot to mention the word colour inthe above question. It was actually, " Is there any colour difference between Ash's Pikachu in the Japanese and English dub of the anime?". [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 08:37, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
:Not that I'm aware of.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:31, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
Thank you ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 14:20, 8 February 2020 (UTC)

== Debut uncertainty ==

For movie 22, should cases like Gary's Pokémon on his page or Mewtwo on Viridian Gym's page have their debut appearances listed to be their main series debuts or M22? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:44, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
:Whichever one aired first in Japan. M01 (I believe aired first before EP063). Not M22.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:45, 8 February 2020 (UTC)

== User page ==

I want to move the usertag box to the right corner of my page. But I don't know how to do it. Can you please help with this!I won't edit it if you say it today itself,because I have already done three edits in my userpage!! [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 09:53, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
:The code containing the tags should go above everything.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:31, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
I can't understand completely, can you show me a pic of it, please. Thank you ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 14:20, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
:The table containing all your usertags should be placed '''above''' the first section. I.e. just swap the placement of your sections around.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 14:58, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
Can you see if have done it correctly, unfortunately I have wasted my edits and unable to delete the excess points and thank you, ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 05:30, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
:It's fine.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 07:03, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
: Thanks a lot, ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 09:42, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

== Dynamax ==

Isn't Pikachu Dynamaxing without going into it's pokéball, important? If it is too specific,it is notable right? I also have an intuition, that it has something to do with Eternatus. Moreover, it is supposed to go into the trivia. Thank you, ForceFire [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 13:12, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
:No, it isn't notable. It doesn't matter whether Pikachu returned to his Poke Ball or not.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 07:31, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
Thanks again, ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 13:54, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

== Magearna ==

Pokémon HOME reveals that Shiny Magearna doesn't have any paint on it, like the Magearna from the Sun & Moon series. Should it be considered a Shiny Magearna in the light of this new information? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 13:44, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
:I would think so, if it's the most recent design of the Shiny form.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:40, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
::It is. [https://66.media.tumblr.com/4870664d714ac276fbb98e9a9d72afb8/eec1975ebfa88305-2d/s540x810/0258c33075f759d2fd334cceb64a1dd429db6f86.png Here] is an image I found of the Shiny Magearna Sprite from HOME, while [[:File:Mohn Magearna.png|here]] in an image of the S&M series Magearna. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:25, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
:::Based on those images, do I have your permission to classify Magearna as a Shiny in the anime? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 15:37, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
::::I'd say it's fine to classify it as a Shiny form of Magearna.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 16:21, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
:::::Thank you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 13:58, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

== Ash's Dynamax Band ==

Ash doesn't seem to wear the Dynamax band, continuously like the Z-Ring in the new series. Is it to be noted in the major events of SS014. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 15:00, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
:No. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 15:19, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
:Ash not wearing his Z-Ring anymore wasn't a major event. And it's likely he'll just wear it when he's in Galar and can actually use it. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 15:20, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
I wasn't asking about the Z-Ring. I just wanted to ask about the Dynamax Band, whether not wearing it continuously must be noted, if not in major events atleast in trivia! Hope you understand. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 16:13, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
:I used Z-Ring as a comparison. And him not continuously wearing it is definitely not major event worthy. Not sure about trivia worthiness either, but we'll see. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:16, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
Thank you, FinnishPokéFan [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 13:46, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
:Sorry about that edit, ForceFire. I added it because FinnishPokéFan92 was not sure about trivia worthiness,also I didn't do it on purpose. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 14:02, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

== Help me ==

I am getting a blank of space in my userpage. How can remove it? If you want a clear picture of my query,see my userpage. Thank you, ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 17:28, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
:It's because the Ash's Pokemon template is stretching the page due to it's size.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 01:35, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
:: It was there before adding the template. How to clear it? I see there is no space in your page,eve though you usertags. Thank you,ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 13:42, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
:::There's always going to be whitespace on your userpage because their are things stretching the page, the template or the usertags prior to you adding the template. If you want to get rid of the whitespace, you can use the "expandable" tags to hide the templates or usertages so there's less whitespace.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 15:15, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
Thank you so much, ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 13:45, 22 February 2020 (UTC)

== Deleting sandbox article ==

Hey! It's been a while. I created [[User:GrammarFreak01/Pikachu in a cap|a sandbox article]] for the [[Pikachu in a cap]] article, but it seems someone's already beat me to the punch. Mind deleting it for me, please? Thanks! [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 10:12, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
:Done.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:57, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
::Thank you. :) [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 11:24, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

== Minor disagreement ==

In SS013, Ash loses a battle for the first time in 54 episodes, a rarely and possibly even never before seen long streak for him. I think this should be noted in the episode's trivia section, but GrammarFreak01 disagrees, saying it's not notable. What's your opinion? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:27, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
:You should've made it clear that 54 episodes was the longest period of time Ash has gone without a loss in the anime, because I did not know this. I'll restore the edit with the necessary addendum. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 23:37, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
::I did not say that because I wasn't sure. I only figured it was notably long. And I may have just discovered an even longer lossless period for him from the XY series (from XY036 to XY106). --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 14:47, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

== RedneckAnimeGeek ==

{{user|RedneckAnimeGeek}} has made excessively many edits on Hop and Leon's pages. I tried to notify them on their talk page to use the preview button and lessen the amount of their edits, but their actions did not change. Could you help? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 20:46, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

== GaOlé ==

https://postimg.cc/gallery/ikii6jsa/
Hello, can these images be placed on Archives and consequently placed on the pages of the respective characters?They are from the Ga Olé game with the theme of the new anime series.[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 12:15, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

== Reinhartmax's categories ==

{{user|Reinhartmax}} has just created categories for Trainers with giant, Fossil, and baby Pokémon. I personally can see the notability in the first one and maybe in the second one, but not really in the last one. What's your opinion? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 22:11, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
:I don't think all three are notable. I've brought it up to the staff, and gave Reinhartmax a message to cease making more categories.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:32, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
::Thank you. I won't mind if all three of them were removed, so no objections there. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:38, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
:::Has the staff made a decision yet? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 19:51, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
::::Not yet. It got put off to the side for other things.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:19, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
:::::Is this subject still waiting to be solved? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 20:27, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
::::::Can those categories be removed? Has a decision been reached yet? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 20:08, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
:::::::Hello? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 11:05, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
::::::::Discussions regarding this has kinda stalled. Though I think it's rather clear that they aren't needed. I'll be deleting them in a bit.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:37, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
:::::::::Thank you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 14:25, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

== Process for reporting an admin ==

Hey! Is there a formal process to report an admin for shirking their duties? [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:Ataro#Iris_edit I've been trying] [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:Ataro#Iris_edit.2C_continued for months] to talk with {{U|Ataro}} about an editing style that I strongly disagree with, which led to what I believe to be an unnecessary three-day block on my end. Ataro [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AAtaro&type=revision&diff=3032795&oldid=3031944 responded], and this was [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AAtaro&type=revision&diff=3032886&oldid=3032814 my response]. For months, I haven't received another response from them. I am led to believe Ataro is ignoring me on purpose because [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AAtaro&type=revision&diff=3068489&oldid=3068474 they] [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AAtaro&type=revision&diff=3068499&oldid=3068496 have] [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AAtaro&type=revision&diff=3107287&oldid=3107274 responded] to other talk page messages, but not mine. They have also been active many times since that initial response, so it would've been absolutely difficult for them not to see all the talk page notifications that were sent by my many attempts to contact them.

I find it hard to believe they were unaware of all of that. If there was supposed to be another, more appropriate way to reach them, then my apologies; I didn't know. But nevertheless, I find it absolutely disgusting that this admin would engage in such selective behavior. Trying to contact them even before they initially responded was an extremely tedious debacle, and by this point, I am absolutely done with their conduct. I'd like to see if there's a formal procedure to address this. Thank you. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 11:05, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
:If you have a concern about a staff member ignoring you, you can bring it up to either the Editor in Chief (Kogoro) or the Deputy Editor in Chief (Pokemaster97).--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 13:17, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
::Thank you. :) [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 08:48, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

== Explain. ==

Hello, why is it that you removed my Shadow Lugia base stats from the Shadow Lugia page? Those were the real base stats so they had no reason to be changed. Email me at JonahLeeWalker.123@gmail.com with your reply. {{unsigned|Gamer PROJonah}}
:It was improperly formatted. See how the base stats on other articles are done.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:22, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

== Vandal alert ==

It looks like {{user|Justin Bibarel}} is going to be nothing but a vandal. Take care of it? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 01:34, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

:Never mind, {{U|SnorlaxMonster}} took care of it. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 01:41, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

== SS017 ==

Is the title of SS017 is "Something happens to Hibanny". I saw the news about this in Twitter. So, I want you confirm the truthness of this fact. Because I can't edit unless I have proof about it,right! [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 09:04, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
:Hi,ForceFire please answer my question! Thank you. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 04:17, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
::Where did you get the title from?--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:03, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
::: I'm not completely sure about the title. I saw it in #anipoke in twitter. Hence, I asked you if you're aware of it. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 08:24, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
::::A simple Twitter hashtag is not a reliable source. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 08:30, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
::::: I'm not trying to prove my fact,I was just confirming it here. Also,it is the official hashtag of the Pokémon anime. The tweets may not be reliable, I accept. Hope you understand my point of view GrammarFreak01. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 15:24, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
:::::: Don't worry about it,since we got the title. Thank you ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 03:50, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

== Gary's Journey ==

Hi, please, I wanted to understand why the change was reversed with Gary's page. Why no other human character has the separation between Kanto / Johto / Hoenn or anything like that anymore. The marking says "Orange Islands", but Gary was never said to have been on the islands. And the page is about Gary's point of view, isn't it? What's the point of keeping that with Gary only?Shouldn't that be standard for everyone?[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 15:17, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
:Could've sworn we also split the history sections of human characters too, but that doesn't seem to be the case. I've reverted myself.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 15:34, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

== List of references to Pokémon in popular culture edit ==
Hello there. May I ask as to why you have deleted my writing on [[Difference between revisions of "List of references to Pokémon in popular culture"|this page]]? If you would have given me some more time, I would have fixed up my own work, rather than someone else deleting it. Could you please explain as to why you have deleted this specific section? I recognise that some of my information is incorrect, and I would have fixed it up myself. If there is an alternate section where you want me to put it under, I will be more than happy to do this change. Thank you for taking the time to read this, and I hope you recosider your reversion. [[User:BlueDecoRoller|BlueDecoRoller]] ([[User talk:BlueDecoRoller|talk]]) 01:31, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
:As I said in my edit summary, passing mentions are not notable. It has to be more than just a namedrop.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:03, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
::As an alternative, could I add my information [[List of background references to Pokémon|here instead]]? I could create a new section for Books, comics and Manga, and put it in there, along with a stub. What do you think? If you approve, I should have it done by 06:00 03/05/20 (UTC). Hopefully. [[User:BlueDecoRoller|BlueDecoRoller]] ([[User talk:BlueDecoRoller|talk]]) 21:51, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
:::It's fine there.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:19, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
::::All fixed. Thank you for clarifying as to where I should put it.[[User:BlueDecoRoller|BlueDecoRoller]] ([[User talk:BlueDecoRoller|talk]]) 06:34, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

== Focus on Ash ==

Isn't [[SS013]] an episode focusing on Ash. I don't know how to add it in the Category: Episodes focusing on Ash. If it is an episode focusing on Ash,could you add it in the category for me, ForceFire! [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 08:26, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
:Not really.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:19, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
:: Thank you, ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 15:00, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

== Appearance info for Series-exclusive Recurring Characters: ==

Hello,

I wish to clarify whether all appearances for recurring characters in a particular series should be documented. This comes in the wake of GrammarFreak01 restoring deletions made to [[Abe]], [[Sarah and Harper]] and [[Anela]]'s pages of otherwise unimportant or minor appearances, plus Poké Problem scenes which have little to do with the respective episode plots. As such I'd prefer for these changes to be reverted to make for a succinct article. [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 09:15, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

:I disagree with making articles such as those succinct. It needs material to fill it up, otherwise it'll be painfully short. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 09:16, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
::Only major appearances should be noted, if they didn't do much and was simply a background character, then it's not notable. And the Poke Problem segments are clearly not notable at all. It doesn't matter if it's too short, Reggie has appeared quite a few times and his article isn't that long. Quality over quantity.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:22, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
:::Thank you for the clarification. [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 12:48, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
::::So would this have to apply to ''every'' recurring character article, including those who only had major roles in just two episodes like [[Savannah]] and [[Sandra]]? If not, what's exactly the limit? Which recurring character articles have to be succinct and which ones don't have to be? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 09:13, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
:::::If they contributed to the plot of the episode, then it's notable. And it counts for every recurring character, it doesn't matter of one page is longer than the other. That's simply not a problem.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 09:38, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
::::::GrammarFreak01, the examples you gave were deliberate cameos, which are different from background appearances of the examples I explained. [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 09:42, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
:::::::Allow me to rephrase, then: is the mention of cameos and flashbacks notable for all recurring characters' histories, or not? That's among the material that's being contested in [[Abe]] and [[Sarah and Harper]]. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 09:46, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
::::::::If they are important cameos or flashbacks.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 09:50, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
:::::::::How so? Examples? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 09:52, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
::::::::::If they are important to the plot of the episode, then it's notable. If they didn't do anything at all, then it's not notable..--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 09:57, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
:::::::::::Okay, gotcha. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 10:00, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

== The trivia ==

The music from the trailer of the new series was used in [[SS014]],when the egg containing the Golurk emerged from the underground of the ruins. Could it be treated as part of trivia of SS014, as we treated the use of Gym battle theme from SwSh. If it is a part of trivia, can you add it in the trivia of SS014 for me,as I don't really know how to frame it properly for the trivia. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 15:09, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
:It's not a notable piece of music, so it's not notable.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 15:40, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

== User YayBoy7 vandalizing the site. ==

I think you should have access to the last changes, the user in question started to vandalize the pages of some users and places and characters with bad words. I tried to modify what I could, but I couldn't prevent other changes and as I don't know if it is possible to report here, it probably must have happened without me seeing it. 01:43 [[Hikaru Wazana]] 05 March 2020

== Request ==

I appreciate you protecting SS017's page for the time being. But could I request you'll remove the last edit that was there before the protection took place? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 11:58, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
:Eh, if it wasn't hidden, then I'd remove it. But since it's hidden, so it's doing no harm. It can be removed/corrected once the protection expires.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:55, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

== Lugia (Pocket monsters) ==

In [[SS020]],the Lugia from the second episode of the series is going to appear. Can we categorize this Lugia as a recurring character in the anime? [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 15:32, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
:I also wanted to ask you one more question,i.e How do I join in Project anime? [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 15:44, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
::Once the episode airs. "Joining" projects is an out of use thing, everyone is editing under a certain project, regardless of them "joining" it. Though you can still add the "User is a part of Project..." usertags to your userpage if you like.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 16:07, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
::: I get the idea about it now. You mean that the edits under the anime pages are part of Project anime. Thanks a lot, ForceFire. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 17:25, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

== Item Sprites ==

Hey, I've made a suggestion here [[Template talk:Bag2]]. What do you think about it?--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket Grunt]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Report To Me]])''' 22:25, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

==User edit-warring on an article==
I've got {{user|Kirigayaray}} [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pok%C3%A9mon_world_in_relation_to_the_real_world&type=revision&diff=3129878&oldid=3129829 continuously reverting my own reversions] of the [[Pokémon world in relation to the real world]] article. [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pok%C3%A9mon_world_in_relation_to_the_real_world&type=revision&diff=3129839&oldid=3129835 I've talked with them] about going to the talk page to discuss the contested edits, but [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pok%C3%A9mon_world_in_relation_to_the_real_world&type=revision&diff=3129878&oldid=3129839 they still made a reversion]. Would you mind intervening, please? Thank you! [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 09:13, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
:The entire article is speculation, so it's fine for them to change it within reason. If you feel that their edits are wrong, then go to their talk page or the talk page of the article. Would also help if you had knowledge on what those areas the location is supposedly based on. That way, your reversion might hold water.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 09:48, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

== Recurring character categories ==

Hey! Since I noticed there's an entire set of categories for [[Character of the day|characters of the day]], I was wondering if we could create the same for recurring characters in the anime. I feel like they could use some further categorization and distinction. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 10:54, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
:The main anime characters category covers those fairly well, in my opinion.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:52, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
::But it's already so hard to look for some of them, like [[Savannah]]. I think we need such categories. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:12, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

== Deleted ==

Why did you delete [[:Category:Pages with ignored display titles]], even though I think it is needed? --[[User:TheICTLiker4|'''TheI''']][[Special:Contributions/TheICTLiker4|'''CTLi''']][[User talk:TheICTLiker4|'''ker4''']] 11:27, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
:No... it's not needed.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:52, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

== Feedback ==

Hi, I'm putting together a custom template for the characters that will be in the world competition. Some details are still needed, but I would like to know the opinion of the site staff. Is there any chance of being approved? Is it worth it to keep doing this?My inspiration is something that I saw on sports websites. I thought it might be interesting given the importance of the event.
Here is an example:
---------------
This marks the position that Trainer _____ took in the world ranking:

{| class="roundy" style="margin: auto; text-align: center; background: #{{water color}}; border: 3px solid #{{water color dark}}" cellpadding=5px
|-style="background: #{{water color light}}"
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" |[[File:Pokémon World Championships logo.png|75px]] Pokémon World Championish
! [[File:Bag Poké Ball Sprite.png‎]] Normal Class
! [[File:Bag Great Ball Sprite.png]] Super Class
! [[File:Bag Ultra Ball Sprite.png]] Hyper Class
! style="{{roundytr|5px}}" | [[File:Bag Master Ball Sprite.png]] Master Class
|- style="background: #FFF"
| Ranking position
| {{color2|000|SS018|Not Avaliable}}
| {{color2|000|SS018|Top 999}}
| {{color2|000|SS018|Top 99}}
| {{color2|000|SS012|Top 8}}
|- style="background: #FFF"
|-
| class="roundybottom" style="background: #{{water color light}}" colspan="5" |
|}

What do you think?--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 16:17, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
:Initially thought this was for the TCG worlds tournament thing, so there was a bit of confusion on my end. I've asked and the judgement was that it's a bit too early for such a template, when we know very little of it and its competitors. Maybe once that gets revealed it could be used.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:14, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

== Let's Go plot description ==

I personally think the plot description {{user|Kahchun}} wrote for Let's Go Pikachu and Eevee today isn't up to code. Do you agree? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:21, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

== Articles for the Mainspace ==

Hello. I'd hoped for a response from Abcboy or G50, in regards to some of these pages which are ready to be mainspaced, hopefully you can help.

*[[User:PardescanSlowbro/Legend Festival]]
*[[User:PardescanSlowbro/Pokéstar Studios Film Competition]]
*[[User:PardescanSlowbro/Subway Bosses's Stamp Rally]]
*[[User:PardescanSlowbro/The Marina Group]]
*[[User:PardescanSlowbro/Pershie/The Protectors]]
*[[User:PardescanSlowbro/Bloom Canyon]]
*[[User:PardescanSlowbro/Flower Garden Troupe]] - I've structured it like other organization pages like the [[Pokémon Lover's Club]] and [[B-Button League]] as its HQ was shown in the anime
*[[User:PardescanSlowbro/Pokémon Training Center]]
*[[User:PardescanSlowbro/Unnamed Island (EP060)]] - We have other unnamed island pages like the ones featured during the Orange and Decolore sagas
*[[User:PardescanSlowbro/Big Town Pokémon]] - This one needs further discussion as these are the recurring Pokémon that aren't part of the Pichu Posse, as to whether this should be a separate page or rather the Pichu Posse page gets reconfigured to account for this.
*[[User:PardescanSlowbro/Pershie]]

Regards [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 08:55, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
:*Legend festival should be fine.
:*The PokeStar competition article should detail its competitors like the other competition articles.
:*Same as above.
:*Marina group should be fine.
:*(not sure why it's a subpage of Pershie) Protectors is fine, though is looking bare without a navigation template.
:*Bloom Canyon could do with a bit more, but if nothing else major happens there, then I guess it'd do.
:*Flower Garden Troupe is fine.
:*Pokemon Training Center is fine.
:*Unnamed Island is fine, again navigation template would help it look nicer.
:*Big Town Pokemon needs further discussion about splitting it off from Pichu Brothers.
:*Pershie didn't do much, and didn't really have an impact in any of the episodes it was in. Not notable.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:14, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
::Just confirming, Bloom Canyon had a brief appearance in the episode.
::Anyway, I've made those suggested changes, the pages are now ready for the mainspace. Thanks for the reply. [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 07:45, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
:::Hi. I've noticed only two pages have been mainspaced so far. When will the other approved pages be uploaded to the mainspace? [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 09:40, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
::::Apologies for that, all the approved articles have been moved.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 10:08, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
:::::Much appreciated, thanks. [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 10:25, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

== Professor Burnet ==

{| max-width="80%" style="margin:auto; background: transparent; {{roundy|10px}} border: 0px solid #C4E673; padding:2px;"
|-
| colspan="2" width="100%" style="background: #E0F2B6; {{roundy|10px 10px {{#switch:{{{2|author}}}|author=10px|0px}} 10px}} border: 2px solid #a1c747; padding-top:5px; padding-bottom:10px; padding-left:5px; padding-right:5px;" | '''“''' Her name is Burnet, which comes from the Japanese name. Profesor is her title/occupation, not part of her name, so it's not counted. '''”'''
|-
|
|}
Thank you for this explanation while you “rollbacked” these edits, this will be useful in my future contributions. --[[User:TheICTLiker4|'''TheI''']][[Special:Contributions/TheICTLiker4|'''CTLi''']][[User talk:TheICTLiker4|'''ker4''']] 18:44, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

== Mythical pokémon pics ==

Hi! I'd like to know the ratio over using promotional images of past mythical pokémon in the [[Mythical Pokémon|general page]] while the latest ones have to use the Sugimori artwork. I edited it because I thought it looked better and more cohesive. Thank you! --[[User:Crikko|'''★''''''Cri''''''ққ''''''ѳ~''''''*''']] 16:58, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

== Gen 8 Sprites ==

Hi do you think we should start on the gen 8 sprites now and use the front sprites such as Grookey's front sprite

[[File:Spr 8s 810.png|300px]]

and upload the backsprites later? I apologize about my wording and English BTW ([[User:Mr.GodzillaMan|Mr.GodzillaMan]] ([[User talk:Mr.GodzillaMan|talk]]) 16:27, 17 March 2020 (UTC))

== New vandal alert ==

Hey! We've got {{user|Yeety}} being a vandal here. Take care of it, please? Thank you! [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 20:27, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

:Now this person's directly harassing me on my talk page and spreading lies about me on other users' talk pages. I need assistance! [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 20:47, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

::Never mind, {{U|Abcboy}} took care of it. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 20:52, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

== Rillaboom's Drumsticks ==

I know that Rillaboom carries its drum on its back, but where does it keep its drumsticks? The leaf-like fur near its hands (like how Delphox keeps its branch in the fur on its arm)? [[User:Macpika|Macpika]] ([[User talk:Macpika|talk]]) 17:38, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

== Totodile’s Tackle ==

Excuse me, I already know which episode Ash's Totodile used Tackle, and Duplica's Mini-Dit did the same, but why did it get reverted? Dub edits or something?--[[User:CoolPokeGuy|CoolPokéGuy]] ([[User talk:CoolPokeGuy|Talk]]) 19:03, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
:Was it stated or are you just guessing? I don't particularly remember the episode.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:08, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
:It was stated. I’ve seen that episode for a very long time.--[[User:CoolPokeGuy|CoolPokéGuy]] ([[User talk:CoolPokeGuy|Talk]]) 07:13, 20 March 2020 (UTC)

== Relicanth ==

You can't just delete a fan theory from a paragraph designated to fan speculation. And why isn't Relicanth a map?--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket Grunt]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Report To Me]])''' 16:34, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
:Do not edit war. Wait for a response. No response does not mean you can just add it back. Have patience.
:I already said why on Relicanth's talk page. It's an opinion. Relicanth's body design looks nothing like the map of Hoenn. And it's a very large stretch to say that its design is why it's needed to unlock the Regis when the far simpler and probable reason is because it's a living fossil Pokemon.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 17:02, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
::I'm not saying it's a map of Hoenn, but it surely is a map. Being brown (like old maps), having unexpleined by any other mean red spot, being unchanged for centuries and always placed sideway instead of heading the player in game sprites, all these things together suggest that. And as a theory of Hoenn map, even if you can't see it, it has no reason to not be added under speculations.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket Grunt]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Report To Me]])''' 20:50, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
:::It would make more sense if it looked like the map of Hoenn, otherwise, it's just a random design. Again, all of those are a stretch when the more simpler and probable reason is because it's an ancient Pokemon. It still needs to be reasonable speculation, and the whole map thing just isn't.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 01:39, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

== Bulbapedia Rework ==

Hello, Force Fire.
My name is Xeraphyy. Last month, a tweet was made announcing that Bulbapedia was going through some site upgrades. The link to the tweet is below.

https://twitter.com/Bulbapedia/status/1228458215324545024

I was wondering if the site upgrades are still continuing. Do you know of the status of the rework? Please get back to me when you can. [[User:Xeraphyy|Xeraphyy]] ([[User talk:Xeraphyy|talk]]) 18:34, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

== Raichu's gender ==

May I ask why the gender of Visquez's Raichu can't be confirmed? It's a Raichu that was first seen after gender differences were implemented, we've seen Pikachu's gender differences before, and her Raichu's tail clearly was that of a male Raichu. I personally fail to see the reason to not consider its gender confirmed based on its tail. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 21:58, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
:That's Pikachu's gender difference. Not Raichu's gender difference. Just because one gender difference has been acknowledged, does not mean the others exist. They still need to be acknowledged by the animators. They could easily acknowledge one difference but not the other, because they can just be like that sometimes.
:A female Raichu has appeared in the anime, but it was drawn with a male tail (Tierno's). So we still can't use gender differences, until the female variant Raichu appears in the anime. Other than that, it needs to be explicitly stated or hit with attract/cute charm. But you know that already.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 01:39, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
::Oh, right. I had completely forgotten about Tierno's Raichu. Sorry. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:31, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
:::How is Tierno's Raichu a cetain case? I've ask about this [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Talk:Tierno_(anime) here].--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket Grunt]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Report To Me]])''' 11:36, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

==Hikaru Wazana==
Me and FinnishPokéfan92 have been having some trouble with Hikaru Wazana, mainly on the Archive section with him uploading images that aren't the right size or quality, adding more work for us and other users. I've spoken to Chosen and Abcboy about this but haven't had any response. Was wondering if you could look into it? I'm bringing this up now as he's starting making more work on this side of Bulbapedia, notably the [[Elite Four‎‎]] and [[Casey's Meganium]] pages.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 22:38, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
::I didn’t upload anything to Casey’s Meganium page, the only thing I did was expand the page, which YEARS passed without anyone putting anything relevant about her role. The other uploads I made with images with the best quality I got, unfortunately I can't change them with the standard quality. If the images of the E4 you are talking about are those of the Pokemon Puzzle League, unfortunately I couldn't get any better, so I wondered if it was better to add content or not. I chose to add the content.

What should I do? There is a page that, as notable as it is, no one takes the trouble to update. It seems that people care more about putting Trivia than really supporting the site. The other day I sent you the screencaptures of a hosted site, but doing that for all the ones I get is an extra job. I don't want to give extra work to the people who collaborate here,[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]10:15, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
:I don't pay too much attention to the archives side of things, so any issues should be brought up with someone that spends more time over there. As for Hikaru's edits here, they're fine. If they feel like a page can be expanded, they are free to expand it to the best of their abilities.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:05, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

== Gender ==

So why exactly you reverted back the table for Pokemon that evolve depending on gender? It wasn't big edit, not even mine.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket Grunt]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Report To Me]])''' 17:02, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
:Because it wasn't necessary. Not every page have to have the same template design. You also made a large scale edit without consulting others on the talk page, like you usually do. If you want to suggest a drastic change, always propose it on the talk page first. Don't just do as you please.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 08:00, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
::I'm too convinced that Bulbapedia's style should be precise and consistent as it is on most of pages already. Do you have any reason for this page to not be like the others? Because there is one reason for and zero against. Also, I do many bigger changes by myself because my questions and suggestions are rarely answered and when they do there is almost no reason presented. For example you still haven't answered my question about Tierno's Raichu.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket Grunt]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Report To Me]])''' 16:31, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
:::Don't just go ahead with making largescale edits just because no one responds, that does not give you the privilege to just make the edit anyway. Wait for a response. The evolution chain is not the point of that section of the article, so there is not needs for a template that showcases an entire evolutionary line. The article is about gender, so it shows the different gender specific Pokemon. Evolutionary line has nothing to do with the article. And Tierno's Raichu is confirmed female because the original version stated that Attract failed on Blastoise because Blastoise was male.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 16:55, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
::::If there is no point in showing whole evolutionary line, then why don't you simplify it in the same way on other pages? And if Tierno's Raichu is confirmed female then why don't you mention that on page of Visquez's Raichu that it is the reason for not giving him gender. It's really annoying how you're making decisions you're not fully abide to.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket Grunt]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Report To Me]])''' 15:16, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
:::::Just leave it. It's fine the way it is and gets the point across just as well. The point is to show the evolution method and the gender specific forms, since the section is titled "gender based evolution", and using the artwork shows the differences much more clearly than a minisprite. That and your template makes it inconsistent in design with the template right below it.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 16:17, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
:::::And as I said, they don't all have to have the same template design. Some pages can have unique templates designs depending on the article. There is no inconsistency issue.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 16:21, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

== Urshifu ==
Honestly just a small issue I spotted regarding Urshifu's page, where the Tower of Darkness and Tower of Waters are referred to as the Temple of Darkness and Temple of Waters in the evolution box. It's a minor error, but it bothered me, so I made an account specifically to try to fix it, but of course it was protected, which I didn't realize was a thing because I didn't ever consider it. Anyway, just something I felt obligated to point out for the sake of accuracy. Thanks for your time reading this. --[[User:ArcaneCrystal|ArcaneCrystal]] ([[User talk:ArcaneCrystal|talk]]) 07:30, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
:Fixed.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 08:00, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

== List Grammar ==

On the Normal (type) page, you reverted my edit to the sentence, "Their inability to hit Ghost-type Pokémon can be nullified by using Foresight, Odor Sleuth, or by Pokémon with the Ability Scrappy." That's a list of two nouns (''Foresight'' and ''Odor Sleuth'') and a prepositional phrase ("by Pokémon with the Ability Scrappy"), which just doesn't work, or a list of two prepositional phrases ("by using Foresight" and "by Pokémon with the Ability Scrappy") and a noun (''Odor Sleuth''), which also just doesn't work. (At least, it doesn't work in American English; I don't know about other major dialects.)
[[User:Matthias von Schwarzwald|Matthias von Schwarzwald]] ([[User talk:Matthias von Schwarzwald|talk]]) 16:41, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

== "In the movies"? ==

Dear ForceFire,

I noticed several of the anime characters that have been featured in the Pokémon movies have sections titled "In the movies", while most are "In the anime". Is there a reason for this, or should it all be standardized to one format?[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 07:28, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
:If they've featured in both the main series and the movie series, then it should have two subsections for anime and movies (order goes by whichever they first appeared in). Movie exclusive characters get a history section.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 08:59, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

== Pokémon seen sections for anime locations ==

Dear ForceFire,

I would also like to clarify what Pokémon are typically included in the Pokémon seen sections of the location pages. While I think we can do away with these sections entirely due to differences in formatting and non-specific images as some appearance have only occurred in a group. I've noticed that some Trainer owned Pokémon are included in these segments, especially locations that hosted Contests, should it only be wild Pokémon and Pokémon known to actually reside in the area with their Trainer? [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 07:34, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
:I think the section is necessary to showcase what Pokemon reside in the area. Multiple images of the same thing for individual Pokemon isn't a problem. It should ideally just be for wild Pokemon. I don't think a trainer's Pokemon being at a location counts, since it technically doesn't reside there (not sure why a contest location would have a section for that).--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 08:59, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

== [[Tracey's Scyther]] ==

The Grammarfreak user insists on putting a "Johto" section for Tracey's Scyther. Since Tracey didn't have a "Johto Journey", does that make any sense?I mean, the Johto and Kanto level is not separated with Kanto arc and Johto arc unless the respective Pokémon has a journey in such a place (Gary's Eevee, Gary Arcanine they are like that as far as I'm concerned, right?).

Doesn't the page just list the point of view of that respective character?Even if you allow me, I think the division should be just in the anime saga (something like Original Series, Advance, Diamond and so on). As is done even in the manga section. In this case of Tracey, what is the point in creating a section to detail a journey it did not take?I don't know I managed to put my point of view correctly, I apologize if you may have been a little confused.[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]10:30, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
:The history is only separated by region if they have appeared in that region, yes. Though, in the case of Scyther, it did appear after the Orange Island arc but in Kanto and not Johto. I think renaming the section "Kanto", "Other", or "post Orange Islands" would be more appropriate.
:The region specific separation should only be for Pokemon that appeared in two different regions in an arc (so Hoenn and Kanto for AG, Kanto, Orange, and Johto for OS, so on so forth). If the Pokemon has done something notable or important in a region, then it should be noted.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:05, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

== New titles of new series ==

SS021 - Hit Your Mark, Wave Guidance! Satoshi and the Mysterious Egg!!(12/4)

SS022 - Farewell, Rabbifoot!(19/4)

SS023 - Massive Panic! Sakuragi Park!!
(26/4)

These are the new titles. Could you confirm and them in the list of new series episodes. {{unsigned|Dhiwakar}}

Don't worry about it, ForceFire. It's already added. Thank you. [[User:Dhiwakar|Dhiwakar]] ([[User talk:Dhiwakar|talk]]) 13:25, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

== Suggestion ==

I was wondering that should the Battle Frontier facility info templates be edited to include the possibility of a battlefield section, like with Gym info templates, and the game image of the facility in the template be replaced with the anime image, if possible. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:22, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
:While I wouldn't be against it (I only really checked the Battle Pyramid article, and an anime image would be a better alternative), tryask for second opinions.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:10, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
::Blazingfist has [[User talk:Blazingfist#Suggestion|also agreed to the idea]]. Should I ask some more users, or is this fine? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:30, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
:::If you'd like, you can make a mockup in your userspace and I can get the Editorial board to check it.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 15:27, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
::::I created a mockup [[User:FinnishPokéFan92/Template:Facility Infobox|here]]. I mainly just added another image section to the bottom of the template. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:10, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
:::::I've brought it up with the editorial board, waiting approval.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:49, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

== Does not explain name origin? ==

howdy, Force Fire. i'm just here to ask you, why have you removed my edit on Hawlucha's page? i was thinking it'd be possible that a Matador (Bullfighter) puts the "bull" in Luchabull. which is why i added it in the name origin. was there something wrong with it? ----[[User:inukoinu.k9|i n u k o i n u]] ''([[User talk:inukoinu.k9|talk]])'' 19:37, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
:It did not explain how the word "matador" itself is incorporated into the name. The relevance to bulls is already mentioned with just "bull" before it.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:10, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
::oh, i really wanted to add how i thought it meant but i guess not. i'm still just a bit new at this so, sorry. heh. ----[[User:inukoinu.k9|i n u k o i n u]] ''([[User talk:inukoinu.k9|talk]])'' 13:40, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

== Ash Ketchum page split suggestion ==

Hi Force Fire, I've started [[Talk:Ash_Ketchum#Article_split_suggestion|a proposal on Ash Ketchum's talk page]] about splitting it into different pages and I would like to hear from you as Senior Administrator! Thanks!--[[User:Crikko|'''★''''''Cri''''''ққ''''''ѳ~''''''*''']] 15:08, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

==Cynthia (anime)==
I was wondering if it might be worth giving Cynthia her own anime page or start work on one at least.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 11:54, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
:Sorry to use another user's conversation, but as the subject is the same ... Well, I started creating a [[User:Hikaru_Wazana/Korrina_(anime)|page for Korrina]]. I wanted your opinion, should I continue with it? I think that here I could start making more exclusive pages for the counterparts of some characters, mainly to relieve the space of some "official" pages of some. Because here there are a lot of pages I could gain from this, as the tidy could be more detailed and the main page would stay with only the basics.
:I think the site has a problem that many people prefer to fill the pages of Trivias, but do not put relevant content on the same page. This happens very often on trainer's Pokémon pages ([[Maylene's Lucario]] for example). But even relevant characters went through this, the page of the matriarch of Village of Dragons was almost a summary and did not even have all the character's participation. Bulbapedia could create a stricter rule for placing Trivias on the pages. I mean, it's just a suggestion.--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 23:19, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
::I agree that some more Gym Leaders might necessitate sub-articles for their anime counterparts and so on and so forth, not just those who accompanied Ash on his journey. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 23:24, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
:::I think both Cynthia and Korrina are notable for their own article, though I suggest adding something to the "pre-series" section of her page before moving first.
:::As for anime articles for game characters, only if they've played an important role and appeared in more than a few episodes, obviously Surge, Roxanne, and Clay aren't notable for anime articles. If you have any suggestions, you can always start one up in your userpage and the staff will take a look.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 15:27, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
::::Went to mainspace Cynthia, but got this message. You do not have permission to move this page, for the following reason:
::::A page of that name already exists, or the name you have chosen is not valid. Please choose another name.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 15:41, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
::I did the pre-series section and put content from episodes that were not included in the main article, as you suggested, Force Fire. If someone wants to coordinate efforts and make pages for characters notable enough for the page, I volunteer. I'm already making some Pokés for some characters.--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 21:04, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
::I have moved both Cynthia and Korrina to the mainspace, though cynthia could do with an introductory paragraph, like the other anime character articles...--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:49, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
::::What are the rules for a character to get his own page? I mean, there is one, right?I know some people made a page for Hau, I have one in progress for Steve Stone. I believe that Clair has what is necessary, but it would be good to have an official opinion so that we don't have to make a lot of pages that we don't need. What rules do they use in the manga section? Would Morty, Norman, Roark, Gardenia or Brandon be notable?Sorry about the lot of questions. LOL.--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 15:04, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
:::::There isn't a hard notability rule for anime characters as there is for anime Pokemon, though some of the rules there would probably apply. Basically they must appear from more than a few episodes, play an important role in the series, and do more than just battle the main characters. Norman and Brandon could be notable, but not the others you mentioned.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:51, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
::::::Created a [[User:BigDocFan/Brandon (anime)|page]] for Brandon, was wondering if you could have a look.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 08:43, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
:::::::Both Steven Stone and Brandon are fine to be mainspaced, both played a major role in their series.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 09:53, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
::::::::I personally disagree. We don't need to create such an excessive amount of separate pages. Cynthia and Korrina I can understand, but Steven and Brandon I disagree with. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:08, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
:::::::::Both have played major parts in an arc they appeared in (Regigas arc for Brandon, Mega Evolution arc for Steven), and have done more that just battle. While I do go on and on over quality over quantity, the quality of those pages are fine.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:43, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
I added information to Brandon's page, I hope everything is right. Despite that, from now on I will only suggest the page when it is ready, Brandon's page was still far from ready(We still need to find a better image to put in the infobox). The one I'm doing for Steven I'll be letting you know when it's ready to head to the main space.--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 22:04, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
:::https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User:Hikaru_Wazana/Clair_(anime)
Hi, I did the first drafts on this page, do you think it is good enough to go to the main space?--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 20:09, 05 May 2020 (UTC)
:I've brought up that page with the other staff members, as I wasn't sure if Clair had done enough outside of battling to warrant a separate page, and they deemed Clair not notable for an anime specific article.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:55, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

== Undoing ==

I tried to undo an edit on my talkpage but the abuse filter wouldn't let me. --[[User:CaliforniaPokemonGirl623|CaliforniaPokemonGirl623]] ([[User talk:CaliforniaPokemonGirl623|talk]]) 03:30, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
:That usually happens when new users attempt to remove large amounts of information. I've removed the template from your talk page. Again, your talk should not be used as a userpage. The only thing that should be on your talk page, aside form the welcome template, are comments and discussions.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:49, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
::Hi [[User:Force Fire|Force Fire]] How many edits (specific number) are needed to get autoconfirmed? --[[User:CaliforniaPokemonGirl623|CaliforniaPokemonGirl623]] ([[User talk:CaliforniaPokemonGirl623|talk]]) 15:38, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
:::The number is kept secret, even I don't know what the number is. It's kept secret so users don't just make the reuired amount of edits and abandon the mainspace for the userpace.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:51, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

== Blast Burn, etc. ==

Hey, if I recall I don't think I repeatedly edited the pages for Blast Burn and similar moves to state that they were the Kanto starters' signature moves - I think I only edited each of them once (or possibly twice to correct mistakes). But in any case, before XD was released, the Kanto starters ''were'' the only Pokémon that could learn those moves, similar to Greninja with {{m|Water Shuriken}} before ORAS. They're even listed on the [[signature move]] page as such. Therefore, if they don't qualify as signature moves, then Water Shuriken shouldn't either. --[[User:Darthrai|Darthrai]] ([[User talk:Darthrai|talk]]) 03:40, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
:I checked the history section of Blast Burn and you added it a few years back, which subsequently got reverted. Yes, the Kanto starters were the only one that can learn it, but it didn't ''keep'' it as a signature move for a generation, which is what (one of) the criteria is. I've removed the Greninja line on Water Shuriken.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:49, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

== Dinosaurtime.YT ==

Hey! It's clear {{user|Dinosaurtime.YT}} is going to continue edit-warring on articles rather than use the talk page. Do something about it? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:08, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
:It's just a matter of explaining to him how things work and that he can help in other sections, there are loads of pages that need help.There is no point in creating a problem with this, or to reach the moderator's page with that tone of words.[[User:Hikaru Wazana |Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 00:30, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
::It wouldn't be a problem if the user hadn't immediately gone to the talk page when their edits were contested. Repeated reversions is automatically punished with a block, whether anyone likes it or not. I would know. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:33, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
:::I've given them a message.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:51, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
::::Okay, thank you. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 23:19, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
Dinosaurtime.YT - Can i say something? I am not Edit-warring. It am just correcting information that is wrong. Many people seem to think that 1-57 is 52 episodes when it is not, it is 57 episodes. I am merely correcting people who are mistaken and wrong.{{unsigned|Dinosaurtime.YT}}
:You are clearly counting the episodes that never aired in the US. Because while EP001 to EP057 are season one, only 52 of them actually aired in the US (EP018, EP035, EP038, EP052, and EP053 were either banned or aired later).--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:51, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
Oh, ok then, i din't know. I just thought it was a typo that had become believed. I made an extra point in the seasons page to correct it and let people know, just in case they didn't know and i apologise for the inconvenience and misconception. {user:Dinosaurtime.YT} {{unsigned|Dinosaurtime.YT}}
:That's not what the dot points are for. The dot points are listing the different definitions of a season. The stuff about irregularities in count can go elsewhere.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 13:12, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
:Where should it go then? In the first section of the page?--[[User:Dinosaurtime.YT|Dinosaurtime.YT]] ([[User talk:Dinosaurtime.YT|talk]]) 13:19, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

== Mainspacing suggestion ==

I have a page about [[User:FinnishPokéFan92/Miette's Slurpuff|Miette's Slurpuff]] that's been waiting for a mainspacing decision for years now. Do you think it's notable and complete enough to be mainspaced? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:59, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

:I feel like Miette's Slurpuff hasn't done much outside of performing in Showcases, if I remember correctly. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:51, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
::Miette's Slurpuff isn't notable. It didn't do anything major, apart from its debut episode, and every appearance afterwards was just battling/performances.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:51, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
:::...Fine... --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 09:25, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

== Team Rocket's disguises ==

I noticed the page on Team Rocket's disguises is written in the present tense, while we typically write in the past tense. Is there a reason for this? Also Butch and Cassidy have used disguises during some of their schemes, should these be included on the [[List of Team Rocket's disguises]] page?[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 09:54, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
:The wording on that article should be in past tense, yes. As for Butch and Cassidy's disguise, I wouldn't be against it, though you might need to suggest it to others.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:11, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
::Not a problem thanks. I'll message BlazingFist to confirm whether Butch and Cassidy's disguises should be added to the page. [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 02:42, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
:::I've always thought the article should be written in present tense because it's always been that way. My bad, I guess. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 06:45, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

==Spoiler tags for Lusamine page? Maybe also for Chairman Rose?==
Okay as the both of us know, the wiki still has not tolerated spoilers in the opening paragraph of the [[Lusamine]] page (this may also be a good thing to potentially apply to [[Chairman Rose]].
Last I checked, the original Sun and Moon (the storyline where this fits into) was released approximately 3 - 3.5 years ago. Unowninator suggested spoiler tags, and I think that may be a worthy solution.
What do you think? [[User:Crummymummy|Crummymummy]] ([[User talk:Crummymummy|talk]]) 03:38, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
:It can be mentioned in the story section of her article, with a spoiler tag in the section (though I think the twist already been alluded to anyway), it will not go to the main paragraph as it is too much of a spoiler. It being 3 years after SM has been released means nothing. It's been years since Colosseum and XD were released and their villains have separate pages from their disguised characters.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:07, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

== Sun and Moon Walkthrough edits ==

Hi, I am a new user here who wants to edit and create walkthroughs. The [[Appendix:Sun and Moon walkthrough/Section 3]] page is essentially a copy and paste of the [[Hau'oli City]] page. When I tried deleting the parts unrelated or out of place in the walkthrough, I found that I couldn't, as it was automatically labeled as vandalism. Do I need to become an autoconfirmed user first, or do I need some other privileges? Thanks for your help. [[User:Mercilessstarfish|Mercilessstarfish]] ([[User talk:Mercilessstarfish|talk]]) 02:32, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
:That normally happens when new users try to remove large amounts of information. You just need to wait a while.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:00, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

== Lickitung's Lick ==

In 2016, you said on Jessie's Lickitung's talk page that the action of licking does not equal the move Lick. However, the announcer in Lickitung's debut episode clearly refers to the action as "Lick attack", as in "Lick the move". If you ask me, this is just an example of an anime move error than an "improvised" move. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 19:24, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
:I'm aware of what the announcer said, though I do not remember if it was dub added or from the original. I've removed the improved moves template from the page, the template itself having already been removed multiple times before only to be re-added again.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:14, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
::Okay. I looked into it, and it turns out that Lickitung's licking wasn't referred to as a move in the Japanese version. So yeah. I stand corrected. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 09:44, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

== My edits ==

Why are you reverting my edits to the Pokémon pages?--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 04:53, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

== Do paintings of Pokémon count as anime appearances? ==

{{U|KnightGalarie}} [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Squirtle_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&diff=0&oldid=3152250 certainly seems to think so]. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 08:48, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
:Paintings are images, right?--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 08:50, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
::I've been getting mixed signals about that, honestly. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 08:54, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
:::[[Bulbapedia:Manual of style/Anime#Pokémon appearances and debuts]].--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 09:09, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
::::So the Pokemon Park robots/animatronics don’t count as appearances at all?--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 09:12, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
:::::An exception can be made for those as they played a major role in their episode.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 09:49, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

==May's Ivysaur==
And hey as long as we’ve got you, why is May’s Ivysaur considered a “Major appearance” when her Ivysaur never actually appeared? I brought it up on the Ivysaur talk page but it didn’t get any traction--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 09:20, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

:If it has an article and belonged to a main character, then it's automatically a major appearance. The fact that most of its major appearances were spent as a Bulbasaur carried over to its time as an Ivysaur and then a Venusaur (which, if I may recall, didn't appear for too long either). [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 09:21, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
::But Venusaur at least got ''an'' appearance. Ivysaur has zero appearances. It can’t be a major appearance if there’s no appearance to speak of--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 09:24, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
:::The section is just more or less stating that May's Bulbasaur eventually evolved into an Ivysaur. It's fine.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 09:49, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

== My own block ==

Hey! I think I might have to be blocked too. I've reverted {{U|KnightGalarie}} so many times on so many different articles that I've lost count. Review my history and see if I've done enough reverts to warrant some sort of block, because I do feel like I've jumped the gun one too many times here. But at this point, I'm too tired to check for myself. Thank you! [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 10:10, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

== GalarPony and KnightGalarie ==

Hey! Call it a far-fetched hunch, but is it possible {{user|GalarPony}} and {{user|KnightGalarie}} could be one and the same person? Not only do their usernames both have "Galar" in it, but both [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:GalarPony#Refusal_to_use_talk_pages GalarPony] and [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:KnightGalarie#Block KnightGalarie] have a bad tendency to edit-war and use edit summaries to make their argument rather than trying to go to the talk page first. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 07:27, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
:Did a check between the two accounts. I've given them a message.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 08:31, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
::I just read your message. Honestly, given the similarities you just described (some of which I hadn't even thought of, honestly), it looks super-suspicious. I'm personally convinced they're the same person, but I suppose GalarPony's multiple IP addresses complicates things for you. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 08:34, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
:::Whoa, whoa, whoa, how can the issue be [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AKnightGalarie&type=revision&diff=3153995&oldid=3153986 cleared up]? How could KnightGalarie share the same computer details as GalarPony and yet say they created their account on a cellphone? Unless there's something about computers I don't know about (and please feel free to explain it to me if this is the case), this is telling me two possible scenarios:

:::1) KnightGalarie is GalarPony and created the account with a cellphone, and then used the same computer to make their edits.

:::2) KnightGalarie and GalarPony are different people who share access to the same computer (which KnightGalarie hadn't exactly confirmed).

:::I think you should press for some clarification on their explanation, because I'm still suspicious about this. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 21:01, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
::::I don't believe that he is GalarPony. The only thing connecting the two are the matching devices, which isn't that helpful if it is a mobile device. The similar names isn't even a good reason, anyone can use the word "Galar" in their name. Their behaviors, whilst similar, are still circumstantial. In a sense, I decided not to pursue it any further. If you still have concerns, you can bring it up with someone of a higher rank than me.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:47, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

== Cynthia149 ==

{{user|Cynthia149}} had [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ANew_series&type=revision&diff=3154191&oldid=3154141 this lovely comment] to say at the [[new series]] talk page. Mind giving them a warning? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 21:27, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
:<s>Don't think it's too bad, but I'll leave a response on that talk page.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:47, 25 April 2020 (UTC)</s>
:Nah, I'll give them a message on their talk page instead.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:51, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
::Okay, thank you. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 18:52, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

== Pokérap backwards ==

Hello Force Fire, I was browsing through my previous contributions to the Wiki and decided to look at the controversy page, I noticed that the point about the Pokérap had an inadequate source. After doing a search for "Pokérap" and "Satan" I found no first had source, I reckon this could be a myth like Lavender Town and the Vikings wearing horns on their helmets so removed it but you want a discussion so I'm starting one. The point doesn't have a valid source and makes Christians come across as overly paranoid, I don't think this site should allow misconceptions to spread, I mean after all the Lavender Town point isn't on the page which is a similar myth so why should this one?[[User:Great Bear|Great Bear]] ([[User talk:Great Bear|talk]]) 21:53, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
:The Lavender town myth was actually busted. The Pokerap thing hasn't been busted. Does it make Christians look bad? Maybe? But people from other religions have said stuff about the franchise, so Christians saying such things wouldn't be too far off. I've already had a discussion about this with another user years ago, but it most likely happened during the 90s when Pokemon was at the height of its craze. Stuff like this probably wasn't documented at the time, and if it was, most likely died along with the 90s.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:29, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
::Your response comes down to "I speculate that it happened even though there's no evidence to support thid from the time, but I think it happened, therefore it must remain". Just because you think it MIGHT have happened doesn't mean it did and if a source died in the 90s we should assume it didn't happen (evidence must exist to confirm something). I think it seems quite a stretch because why would people decide to play specifically the Kanto Pokérap backwards. This is exactly like the Vikings with horned helmets, no account at the time yet believed to have happened because people spread their ideas after the time. Could it not be reworded to remove the piece about Christian fundamentalist, as we have no evidence that they specifically complained about this and instead just say that people (not Christians) have noticed (not complained) that you might be able to hear "I love you Satan" essentially showing that it's a rumour on the internet.[[User:Great Bear|Great Bear]] ([[User talk:Great Bear|talk]]) 11:09, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
:::I will agree with ForceFire on this one. Given that there was a "Satanic Panic" starting in the 1980s and lasting well into the 1990s before it finally stopped for the most part. I would assume that there was a lot of overly zealous christians at the time trying to say ANYTHING they could to get people to stop being fans of the franchise, including making up lyrics and such that they may have heard in the songs when played backwards. The earliest record I could find making mention of this "backmask message" was from a forum thread documented in 2004 where someone asked if others had heard of this rumor before and if they thought they heard the message as well. So while it has been pretty much impossible to find videos or articles where christian folks are flat out stating this, it likely had been stated at one point in time during the late 90s - early 00s before the website was removed. Given most early internet websites were poorly archived, it would likely be impossible to find records of older christian websites making note of it these days. That being said, as youtuber SteveTerreberry has shown, if you try hard enough, you can hear whatever you want out of a song in reverse, even though 99% of the time, there is nothing there in the lyrics anyways. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 12:30, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
::::I completely disagree, it all boils down to did Christians specifically say that you could hear "I love Satan" in the Pokérap played backwards. The answer is "we don't know, we have no evidence to show that they ever did" and Frozen Fennec saying that it wasn't properly archived is not an excuse, it needs to be proved and saying that it could have happened but we have no evidence is NOT an excuse. Just because they may have complained about other recordings doesn't mean that they did about this one and shows them as overzealous people who complain about a children's entertainment franchise (which really doesn't portray them as good people, and some people might find this unproven information offensive). Force Fire saying that this hasn't been debunked is also not an excuse because you need to prove that something happened, not assume that something happened because of something that appeared on the internet after the time. Finally it's not opinion it's about objectivity and fact and you need information to prove a FACT otherwise it should only belong on speculative forums and not an encyclopedia.[[User:Great Bear|Great Bear]] ([[User talk:Great Bear|talk]]) 14:58, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
:::::Another thing I just thought of is why does it really matter if it remains on the page? If it's removed for being an internet rumour then it will still exist on speculative forums, that I mentioned earlier.[[User:Great Bear|Great Bear]] ([[User talk:Great Bear|talk]]) 15:03, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
::::::I just noticed something else, it says "Some claim" present tense, in other words happening right now. Regardless of everything recently discussed it should be past tense.[[User:Great Bear|Great Bear]] ([[User talk:Great Bear|talk]]) 15:25, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

== KnightGalarie again ==

I don't appreciate the tone he's using [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ANew_series&type=revision&diff=3160327&oldid=3160316 here]. I most certainly wasn't lying; I didn't see the first template at first. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:14, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
:In what way is this acceptable behavior? The minute you see something you don’t like, your first thought is punishment?--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 00:21, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
::I'm already on hot water with admins for sending my own warnings to other users, so I'm not taking any chances. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:24, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
:::But your first thought was still punishment for saying something you disagreed with. I didn’t call you names--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 00:25, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
::::You're claiming I lied, which was extremely rude and uncalled for. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:26, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
:::::Uncalled for? You stated an easily-provable falsity in your argument. What else was I supposed to think?--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 00:28, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
::::::Very bold of you to assume I was maliciously lying when I was just distracted by other tabs on my computer at the time. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:31, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
:::::::Which is why you acted out of malice by running to an admin after a single occurrence instead of solely talking it out with me--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 00:32, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
::::::::Because, knowing me, I was going to remind you of certain site rules, which only admins could do. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:34, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
:::::::::Rules that weren’t violated--[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 00:35, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
::::::::::Correction, certain user etiquette. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:38, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
:::::::::::And yet you still thought you needed an admin to scold me --[[User:KnightGalarie|KnightGalarie]] ([[User talk:KnightGalarie|talk]]) 00:39, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
::::::::::::Because said etiquette is documented in the site rules. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:40, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

== Attention: Rillaboom's Biology Section - Please Add Info About Its Drumsticks ==

Could you please mention where Rillaboom keeps its drumsticks? It appears that they are in the leaf-like fur near its hands (similar to how Delphox keeps its branch in the fur on its arm).

We know this Pokémon carries its drum on its back, but if we don't mention where it keeps its drumsticks, it would feel incomplete. [[User:Macpika|Macpika]] ([[User talk:Macpika|talk]]) 18:21, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

==What did I do wrong?==

I made an edit on the [[move variations]] page about adding [[m|Pika Papow]] and [[m|Veevee Volley]] to the section about [[m|Frustration]]. I edited it and added the detail about the two moves being unable to miss and it was deleted by [[u|KnightGalarie]] for “changing criteria without permission”. I don’t know what I did wrong but is there a way I can fix this so I can add these moves into the page? Or better yet, how can I get permission to change criteria without permission? I just want to be able to do better next time.
[[User:PeakA|PeakA]] ([[User talk:PeakA|talk]]) 23:13, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
:The criteria is in the first line of the article, which you did not change, so you're fine in that regard. In regards to those two moves being variations of Frustration, they are not. A move with 100% accuracy can still miss, where those two moves cannot miss.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 08:16, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
::That’s what it was. Thank you for telling me about this. I am going to make a new section to out these moves in as I am sure they are variations of one another. Thank you for your help. Also someone mentioned for me to take down this question but I said no. Do they have permission to do that? [[User:PeakA|PeakA]] ([[User talk:PeakA|talk]]) 15:39, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
:::No, they don't have permission to tell you to remove this section. I'll send a message their way.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 17:02, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

==Zeno Robinson/Ray Chase/Cherami Leigh==
With their roles of Goh, Cerise and Chloe being main or major recurring characters, I was wondering if I could mainspace the pages I created for them? [[User:BigDocFan/Zeno Robinson]], [[User:BigDocFan/Ray Chase]] and [[User:BigDocFan/Cherami Leigh]]--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 09:36, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
:I would say yes to all three, only because we know those characters are recurring/main characters.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 10:16, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

== Idol Trainer class ==

Hello!!

[[Hibana]] isn't a even a tainer. You removed Idol characters in the anime section who are indeed trainers, idols, and use pokémon from fairy-egg group, such as [[Brittany (EP243)|Brittany]]. If you don't remove Hibana from the Anime section, you should at least add Brittany and [[Marina (Johto)|Marina]] who also are confirmed Idol in the anime. [[User:Jeangabin666|Jeangabin666]] ([[User talk:Jeangabin666|talk]]) 13:52, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
:Hibana is referred to as an Idol. Brittany and Marina existed before the trainer class, so they can't be part of a trainer class that didn't exist at the time of their appearances (and Marina isn't even referred to as an Idol in her DP cameo).--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 14:24, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

== Privacy cleanup ==

Hi there, just doing some Internet history cleaning for privacy reasons. Would you mind deleting my user page and its page history (and the same for talk, if that's okay), as well as wiping this edit? No need to reply, thanks. --[[user:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] 21:39, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
: For the avoidance of doubt, this is a GDPR Article 17 request for the removal of personal data. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy Appletree]] ([[User talk:Poppy Appletree|talk]]) 21:51, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

User talk:Force Fire/Archive 11

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Poppy Appletree: /* Privacy cleanup */ new section

User talk:FinnishPokéFan92/Archive 2

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Poppy Appletree: /* Trophy Garden edit war */

'''Archieved talks:''' [[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92/Archive 1]] (archieved on November 5, 2015)

== XY093 errors ==

Why did you erase the error section of ''[[XY093|All Eyes on the Future!]]''? You said you disagree with them, but that doesn't make them any less of mistakes. {{m|Light Screen}} was shown protecting the male {{p|Meowstic}} from {{AP|Talonflame}}'s {{m|Flame Charge}} despite Light Screen only reducing damage from Special Attacks, like {{AP|Frogadier}}'s {{m|Water Pulse}}, not from Physical Attacks like Talonflame's Flame Charge. Later on in that episode, when Talonflame used {{m|Steel Wing}} on the male Meowstic, [[Professor Sycamore]] said that Light Screen doesn't work on Physical Attacks like Steel Wing. Later, {{an|Clemont}} claimed that {{a|Prankster}} was making {{m|Helping Hand}} a priority move when Helping Hand is already one to begin with, for Helping Hand always goes first even if the Pokémon using it didn't have Prankster as their ability. {{a|Keen Eye}} only prevents your Pokémon's accuracy from lowering and ignores an opponent's evasive stats. Professor Sycamore claimed that Psyshock was chasing Frogadier and Talonflame because the female Meostic had Keen Eye, but moments ago, you clearly see the Meowstic using Psychic to make the Psyshock go after Ash's Pokémon. That's why these are mistakes. --[[User:PKMNAdventurer|PKMNAdventurer]] ([[User talk:PKMNAdventurer|talk]]) 17:11, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

== Finally some Colo data ==

I finally got my rear in gear with some of that [[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92/Archive 1#Colo/XD data|Colo/XD team data]]. I've got Colosseum teams now. [http://www.mediafire.com/download/t6gaudyp6atho2b/ Here's] the file.

There are some comments in the file. The file is huge... I imagine the easiest thing will be to poke around BP's pages and just search for the right Trainers in the file. If you have any questions about anything, feel free to ask. =) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:32, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

:Thanks a ton! I'll hopefully get on with it later today. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:56, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
::I figured out a couple things I did wrong for that Colosseum data with the gender. Half is BP's Shadow and non-Shadow templates acting a bit differently when the "gender=" parameter is missing, and half is a separate mistake on my part. I'll fix that up later on and update the link above.
::FYI, right now for XD, I've mostly got the story data converted (just testing a few Trainers, and finding things like that gender issue), but XD also has a good amount of data for other modes, which (with the lazy-ish way I'm doing it) will also be a bit of an annoyance to make work (mostly tedious). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 21:43, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
:::[http://www.mediafire.com/download/ra320pu97afz07x/ XD data]. I've also fixed up the Colosseum data (replaced above; if you wanna check some of the differences, try searching for Entei.)
:::Colosseum's gender data is pretty straightforward, so I think it's OK now, but XD's is less so... For now for XD, I've assumed all Shadow Pokemon have a random gender (so far as they can), and everything else's gender works like I *think* it does. If you're ever in doubt, you can always try to check playthrough videos. I've done that a bit already while testing my output, and where I have, my data was right (and not just for gender; though Abilities can be hard to be sure about). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:09, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

==Hyperspace Hole==
Did Hoopa literally used Hyperspace Hole in the movie when it was summoning Pokémon? Because someone told me it did. [[User:Seabiscuit2020|Seabiscuit2020]] ([[User talk:Seabiscuit2020|talk]]) 20:21, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
:I doubt it was Hyperspace Hole, since Hoopa Unbound did it too, and it already has four other moves. Remember, the anime has been pretty consistent with the "only four moves at a time" thing over the recent years, so... --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:40, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
::That was Hyperspace Fury. It's Unbound Form doesn't use Hyperspace Hole. Only when it is in its Confined Form.[[User:Seabiscuit2020|Seabiscuit2020]] ([[User talk:Seabiscuit2020|talk]]) 06:45, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
:::I know. That's what I was saying. The rings are just Hoopa's special power. Confined didn't use them as an attack, so it wasn't Hyperspace Hole. Also, Unbound used its rings the same way too, so it can't be that move. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 14:56, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

==Clemont's Inventions==
Can you add the information of Clemont's inventions from [[XY088]] and [[XY089]], please? -- [[User:Seabiscuit2020|Seabiscuit2020]] ([[User talk:Seabiscuit2020|talk]]) 22:10, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

== Old Amber ==
I don't understand why there's no need for that. In gen. I there weren't key items, and it doesnt say so in the text. ( first time: 8 November 2015 9:33:45 (UTC)) [[User:Lokki|Lokki]] ([[User talk:Lokki|talk]]) 20:04, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

== Items! ==

I just want to go into a bit more detail about why I like the order I wrote on [[Dewford Town]]. I can certainly understand reasons for liking other orderings, and it's hard to say what may be "always" best, so I think there's definitely room for discussion. =)

1) I don't think there should be any "separation" of the games (which I'm just guessing is the reason you put the Ribbon last on Dewford). I.e., I really don't like the idea of putting all the items that first appeared in RS first, then all the items that appeared in E (but not RS), then all the items that appeared in ORAS (but not RSE) (or whatever games). That's just confusing as hell in longer lists.

2) I think items should be listed by an order of traversal. Basically, pick something that at least makes ''some'' (consistent) sense, and stick to it. Basically, N to S then E to W, or E to W then N to S, or... Anyway, this one I'm kind of taking on a case-by-case, "how do I feel" sort of basis. Currently, I'm not entirely sure if it should ''very strictly'' obey the location's natural traversal (like, you first enter from N/S/E/W, so that's where the list should start), or if maybe it should always be "reading" order (left>right (E>W), top>bottom (N>S)), or what.

2b) I'm a little torn on whether accessibility requirements should affect the order things are listed in. I.e., when you first reach some places, you may not have an HM that will let you get some of the items, so any of those that you'd have to return for could be listed after all of the things you can get immediately. ...The thing that kind of tilts my opinion in this case is that, if you don't grab any items at first and only scour the town after you have all necessary HMs (like in the postgame), then a single, coherent listing of all the items is best, otherwise you may be forced to backtrack a bit for an item that needs an HM. And at the same time, with a single, coherent list, people who are only on their first visit can easily just skip those items they can't get.

These things basically seem best and simplest/most consistent all around, to me. (And simple is best. Less room for arguments; or confusion.)

(Hope all that's not too wall-of-texty... =P ) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 16:19, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

== Aero ==

hey! How are you? :) You must know that your page was chosen to be the official [[Aero]] one. I just happen to have worked on it too ( [[User:MannedTooth/Aero]]) and wondered if there is anything you would like to add to yours? I'm thinking of the Giovanni part, since Aero technically was owned by him before Red. Anyway, take a look at that :) [[User:MannedTooth| MannedTooth ]] ([[User_Talk:MannedTooth|Talk]]) 15:12, 7 April 2016 (UTC)

== XYZ ==

Can you add the Finnish/Swedish name origins for [[Squishy]] and lyrics/translations for [[Stand Tall]] to the [[List of Finnish Pokémon themes]] and [[List of Swedish Pokémon themes]]? Thanks! --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 04:02, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
:I'd be pleased to do so if I knew where to watch those XYZ episodes. I didn't even know they had Finnish titles until just now to be honest. The previous season ended just last week or so. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 04:09, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
::http://www.pokemon.com/fi/pokemon-jaksot/ and http://www.pokemon.com/se/pokemon-avsnitt/ --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 04:18, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
:::Thanks! I'll get to work on them tomorrow, I am unable to watch them just now. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 04:39, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
::::Also, when you get around to adding the lyrics, the titles of the songs need to go on [[Stand Tall]] in the "In other languages" section; I forgot to mention that earlier. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 17:46, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
:::::Of course. I'll keep that in mind. Also, I kinda forgot to do that today, so I'll try to remember it tomorrow. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:02, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

== Lyrics problem ==

Hello, I don't know how much Swedish you speak but I was wondering if you could take a look at Bli en hjälte and Pokémonsången XY because I can't make out the two dotted lines I left at Bli en hjälte and also the question mark at Pokémonsången XY. I'm afraid that I couldn't find Bli en hjälte on youtube, I listened to that at tv4 play, [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODba6H8vVJs&list=PL-mKIkFm-cVXWMv4Nmb_S1c9uzx1glO9E&index=3&nohtml5=False here is the link to Pokémonsången XY movie version at youtube]. Tack på förhand. --[[User:Raltseye|Ralts]][[User talk:Raltseye|eye]] 19:28, 3 June 2016 (UTC)

== Stadium 2 Trainers ==

First of all, thanks for working on getting the details for the trainers in each cup, I at least really appreciate it. :) Do you have any plans to continue with work on the Gym Leader Castle trainers? Currently all of the more detailed information is scattered over about two dozen pages, and only the Gym Leaders and Rocket Executives have any detailed data. The same thing is the case for Stadium 1's GLC as well. If you weren't planning on doing anything with them, I'd probably get to it eventually, but I thought I'd check in with you first. [[User:VioletPumpkin|VioletPumpkin]] ([[User talk:VioletPumpkin|talk]]) 02:00, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
:First of all, thanks for the compliment. Second, no I wasn't planning on doing anything with the GLC Trainers. Much like core series Gym Trainers, I don't think they really need any detailed info, at least not on the Gym pages. If there are separate pages for GLC Trainers, I can reconsider. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:09, 21 June 2016 (UTC) PS. The only Cup thing that I haven't been able to completely add was the Jr. female's Squirtle's moveset in Stadium's [[Fancy Cup|Petit Cup]] Round 2. Any source material I could find incorrectly listed its moveset as the same used by the same Trainer's Meowth in Round 1, which is why it was initially missing from the otherwise already completed Trainer list for the Cup. By watching several videos, I was able to figure out three of Squirtle's moves, but the fourth one is still unknown to me. I hate incompleteness, so I'd really appreciate any kind of help. Thank you.
::I understand, and agree that putting them onto the general "Pewter Gym" and similar pages might be a bit much. I'll probably try making dedicated GLC trainer pages since it feels at least as significant as the other cups to me, but I'm not sure when I'd get around to it. And thanks for the notice about the Squirtle, I'll take a closer look at it. [[User:VioletPumpkin|VioletPumpkin]] ([[User talk:VioletPumpkin|talk]]) 15:55, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

== Colo/XD script (Miror B) ==

In response to [[Special:Diff/2469466|this]] lament for Miror B's quotes, you could try checking the {{DL|User:Abcboy|text dumps}} I made for Colo/XD linked on Abcboy's userpage. If you can identify enough of the quote, you can probably get the rest of what came after it. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 12:02, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
:Thanks a ton! I more than appreciate your gesture! :D --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:14, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

== Anime edits ==

Hi! Playerking95 [[User talk:Playerking95#About unnecessary edits|seems to think]] that you've been targetting him/his edits. I'd like to ask you to describe your perspective on this situation. (Please understand I make no judgement either way at this point.)

Thanks. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 14:52, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
:(P.S. I'm asking you do it here rather than respond at Playerking's talk page. It could "explode" either way, but it's a bit less likely if we keep this part here for now. Thanks.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 14:53, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

== New episodes ==

In the future, please use {{template|New episode}} when creating pages for new episodes. It's fine to make another edit after substituting the template to change anything the template doesn't fill in. This prevents errors like incorrect preview threads, incorrect ordinal numbers in the intro, allows the interwiki links to be automatically generated, and helps prevent other copy-and-paste errors. Thanks! --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 15:36, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
:Thanks. I had kinda forgotten that. I'll keep that in mind. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:00, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

== Swimming to Kalos ==
How on earth could that be interpreted as not the same person? A person in a game says he will do the exact same action as someone in a different game has completed, within the same generation, when we know ORAS is set before XY and has references which say as much, and it's the same trainer class, but they're different people? I legitimately dont understand how one could come to that conclusion. [[User:Smear-Gel|Smear-Gel]] ([[User talk:Smear-Gel|talk]]) 05:11, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
:How about the fact that they '''don't even have the same name?''' Word that piece of trivia a bit differently, and the only thing left to fix are possible grammar errors. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:46, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
::Well that's dumb, I didnt even consider they'd do that. Now I wonder why on earth Gamefreak would have put that effort into that easter egg and then make the names different. Not even the Japanese names are the same? Because that seems silly. Either way I guess I need to look into that and reword it before posting again. [[User:Smear-Gel|Smear-Gel]] ([[User talk:Smear-Gel|talk]]) 22:26, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

== Deoxys ==

Did Deoxys use Safeguard or Protect in PG09? And did Deoxys use Recover when it regenerated itself? [[User:Seabiscuit2020|Seabiscuit2020]] ([[User talk:Seabiscuit2020|talk]]) 20:08, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
:First off: I'm surprised you thought of ME of all people when deciding to ask someone. Second: I think it was Protect, but I don't think it used Recover. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 20:13, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

== Edit Summaries (again) ==

You've been spoken to before about using edit summaries to vent/complain about other users in the past. Edit summaries like [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pok%C3%A9_Ball&curid=759&diff=2526760&oldid=2526478 these] are unnecessary and does nothing to contribute to the overall project of Bulbapedia. Follow the {{bp|Code of Conduct}} at all times. Thank you. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 23:44, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

== Heatran ==

What moves did Heatran use in PG12? One of which looked like Protect while the first one looked like either Flamethrower or Eruption. [[User:Seabiscuit2020|Seabiscuit2020]] ([[User talk:Seabiscuit2020|talk]]) 19:43, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

== Heatran and Mimikyu ==

What moves did Heatran use in PG12? One of which looked like Protect while the first one looked like either Flamethrower or Eruption. And was Mimikyu using Feint Attack or Wood Hammer in SM003? [[User:Seabiscuit2020|Seabiscuit2020]] ([[User talk:Seabiscuit2020|talk]]) 20:19, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

== Trainer classes ==

It seems to me that if old information on Plasma and Flare is wrong, we should be correcting that rather than citing it as a justification for maintaining false information on Skull, don't you think? [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 20:14, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
:Are you going to answer me? [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 15:51, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

== Edit warring ==

I just wanna let you know part of my own personal definition of edit warring. IMO, if you revert (basically) the same edit up to two times, that may or may not be edit warring, depending on the overall situation. But if you do it a third time, that's definitely crossed a line.

That's certainly not to say that toeing that line every time would be advisable or anything. If you can settle a conflict with discussion sooner rather than later, that's definitely preferable. And you've been around long enough. You definitely should know to use talk pages for this sort of thing, rather than trying to do it all right on [[Gladion]]. Please take more care in the future. Thanks. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:27, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

== Electric Terrain ==

The dub CCs state explicitly that Tapu Koko used the move Electric Terrain. Unless there's explicit evidence to the contrary (like if a character states that the Electric Terrain in SM002 was a result of its Ability) it should be kept on the page. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 18:17, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

== Playthroughs in your userspace ==
Hi!

I really like your playthrough section and would like to use your code to list my playthroughs in my userpage. Is that okay? [[User:Arctic|Arctic]] ([[User talk:Arctic|talk]]) 19:40, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
:Of course. Go ahead. It's not like I'm the only person who's using it to begin with. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 04:19, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

== Anime moves ==

It looks like you [[Special:Diff/2635947|recently added]] some moves that Playerking removed. I just want to make sure our policy on adding moves from the anime is clear: unless the move is called (or else explicitly identified after being used), don't assume.

The only moves it's tentatively acceptable to identify by animation alone are the ones listed [[User:Force Fire/List of moves with unique animations|here]]. Honestly, I don't know the scenes in question, and Hyper Beam is on that list so I don't know what to say about that; but Bite isn't.

Anyway, please keep this in mind when adding moves for the anime in the future. Thanks! [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 14:15, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
:[[Special:Diff/2663846|Please remember]] the above. If you think Hydro Pump has a unique animation, consider bringing it up on the talk page Force Fire's user page. Please be careful as well about generally engaging in edit wars.
:I don't think this guideline is all that hard to grasp. Please remember next time. Thanks. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 14:59, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
::[[Special:Diff/2678822|This thing]] with Thunder Wave seems to be the exact same situation as Hydro Pump just above. It's been a little while since then so I'm going to remind you this once more, but if it happens again, as far as I'm concerned you will be earning a block to help you remember afterwards. If a move is not stated explicitly, do not add it; at most, ask someone. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:10, 17 August 2017 (UTC)
:::''(The resposne below is technically copied from [[Special:Diff/2678964|here]].)''
:::I'm sorry if I seemed arrogant or whatever by adding that {{m|Thunder Wave}} use. However, I would like to assure you that I've learned my lesson: I don't add too ambiguous moves without them being confirmed anymore. However, this case wasn't ambiguous at all in my mind: the animation used for the move was identical to the one used in the {{series|XY}}, you can check it out yourself if you want. A couple other users have also already left agreeing opinions to T-Wave's talk page. Do you give me the permission to restore my edit? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 04:30, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
::::Please keep conversations in one place.
::::In case it wasn't clear after all, this isn't about adding moves that are "too ambiguous". This is about adding moves that are ''not explicitly stated''. If such a move is not on Force Fire's user page, don't add it. Neither Hydro Pump nor Thunder Wave were on that page. You're welcome to ask, but it's not your judgement to make. Ask. Always ask.
::::Thanks. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:48, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
:::::The point my friend is trying to make is that Thunder Wave is a completely unique animation and, without a doubt, SHOULD be added to Force Fire's page. [[User:05308|Diamond]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|Lanturn]] [[User talk:05308|CodeName: 05308]] 09:43, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
::::::For Tiddlywinks: That sounds pretty complicated. I recall that it hasn't always been like that, which is probably why I'm having tough times adapting to this way of doing things. Also, I think that having to wait for an agreement on any unspoken move or Ability's identity sounds really boring, and it feels to me like a legit fact is being withheld from the site for no good reason. But it seems I have no choice but to submit... 
::::::For 05308: Yeah, I agree that it should be done ASAP.
::::::PS. Sorry for rambling. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 11:12, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
:::::::I understand your point, 05308; it's still ''your'' opinion and not your decision to make. I hope you follow the same guidelines: ask. Thanks. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:34, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
::::::::Hol on a minute, is a "point" or an "opinion"- the animation for Thunder Wave that has been used throughout the XY series (And now in the Sun and Moon series) IS a unique animation. That is a fact and not an opinion. Even if you want to argue that what Murkrow used was Upproar, and the animation was (for some reason) exactly the same as Thunder Wave's animation in XY. Thunder Wave's animation in XY was factually unique. Force Fire has acknowledged the list is unfinished so Thunder Wave's absence from the list is not invocative of Thunder Wave not having a unique animation. Don't patronize me with nonsense about everything being an opinion. Thunder Wave should be on the list for its XY (and SM) animation- that's not an opinion. [[User:05308|Diamond]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|Lanturn]] [[User talk:05308|CodeName: 05308]] 19:38, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
:::::::::''It's not your judgement to make''.
:::::::::If we just go, sure, we're sure you're right, then we have to allow anyone's opinion about anything. We're not opening that can of worms or we'll just have basically the same as we did before and/or more edit wars.
:::::::::This isn't hard: just ask. I hope you understand. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 19:56, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
::::::::::If I may intrude, 05308, I think Tiddlywinks' point that you aren't understanding is that because it's not on the list ''yet'', we must wait until it has been added to the list ''before'' we can add it based on appearance. It's not about whether Thunder Wave might or might not be something else, it's about jumping through the proper hoops even with things you think are "obvious" so that there isn't a precedent for cutting corners in the future when someone decides something else is "obvious" and gets it wrong. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 21:37, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
I absolutely understand the thing about not assuming moves and all that comes with it- I don't always agree but whatever. However, Thunder Wave did have a unique animation in XY- that is a fact and not an opinion. I don't care what you put on any of the pages, but opinions and facts are different. If being an admin means you'll not admit you're wrong even at the expense of showing you can understand very simple concepts- you are not doing a good job.

I apologise that all this has to happen on FinnishPokéfan's page. [[User:05308|Diamond]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|Lanturn]] [[User talk:05308|CodeName: 05308]] 22:03, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
:Come on... Look. I'm not saying Thunder Wave isn't a unique move—I'm not making any judgement on that score. Okay? I'm saying your judgement doesn't decide whether it can be added as "unique". I hope you understand. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:51, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
::I understand, I've understood since before I interjected into to conversation, but you keep saying "I hope you understand" and that makes it look like I don't understand. Please stop. By the by, I realise what I said about "simple concepts" would come across quite rude so I apologise for that. [[User:05308|Diamond]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|Lanturn]] [[User talk:05308|CodeName: 05308]] 23:04, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
:::I feel pretty safe in saying that "I hope you understand" doesn't usually mean literally understand the concepts; it usually means more like "I hope you understand where we're coming from (and can accept it)"... I'm not trying to belittle you, I'm trying to be polite. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:24, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
::::Bureaucracy at its finest. ''Nothing'' goes ''anywhere'' without first being signed in triplicate, sent in, sent back, queried, lost, found, subjected to public inquiry, lost again, and finally buried in soft peat for three months and recycled as firelighters. This is honestly getting kinda ridiculous. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:43, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

== Image ==

I removed the image because out of all the Sun&Moon capture episodes, this was the only one to have it. I thought that images were not suppose to go there.-- --[[User:Handmaiden 101|Handmaiden 101]] ''([[User talk:Handmaiden 101|tAlk]])'' 18:29, 6 May 2017 (UTC)

== Cleanup ==

Noticed a few episodes I have created synopsis' for have received a cleanup requirement, any advice on how to clean it up, checked the manual but can't quite understand in relation to my synopsis'--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 15:04, 10 May 2017 (UTC)

== Code of Conduct ==

Over the last several years, you've had many talk page message left by various staff members about following the Code of Conduct and remaining respectful in edit summaries. As you [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=List_of_Sun_%26_Moon_series_episodes&curid=217082&diff=2664255&oldid=2664243 demonstrated here] this message hasn't reached you. I understand you may disagree or have conflicts with other users, but behavior of this nature creates a very abrasive and non-inviting atmosphere on Bulbapedia. Please take 3 days off and when you return, make it an effort to be more conscious of our policies. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 21:29, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

== Conduct ==

In [[Special:Diff/2669087|your recent comment]] to Playerking, you appear to have tried to avoid directly insulting Playerking, but you quite failed. You did not at all need that line before the "PS". Attempting to disclaim it at the end doesn't make it "OK", it's still an insult. Be careful about how your passions sway you in the future. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 13:49, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
:My apologies. I guess since I was having a sort of bad mood at the moment (walking outside in a rain and so forth) I wanted to vent that bad mood into that insult. But I fully admit, it was inappropriate, and I apologize. I tried to avoid being rude, but it seems I didn't quite make it all the way through. I promise I'll do my best to avoid this in the future. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 14:08, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

== Edit Warring ==

Rather than [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Kiawe%27s_Marowak&diff=2670213&oldid=2670210 complaining about it in the edit summary], try using the talk pages to sort out issues. They are there for a reason. You've been here long enough to know not to edit war. Regarding the trivia, you're stretching the trivia too far to make it notable.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 14:59, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

== Talk pages ==

Rather than trying to sort out disagreements using the edit summaries, go to the user's talk page and discuss it there. Going back and forth in the edit summaries is a futile attempt and comes off as edit warring. Thank you.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 03:36, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

== Direct linking ==

I'm not gonna try to argue with you because it's clear you won't listen. But I just want to ask you this: what is the point of the staff ruling on something if you're just going to ignore the ruling and say you "don't care" about it? [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 16:29, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
:Sorry, that's just how I can be when I'm in a grumpy. I know it doesn't justify anything, and I apologize. I just get irritated when I see redirect links being added on purpose. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:34, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

== DJ Leo ==

Were the Dugtrio's names the same in the Finnish dub as in the English? --[[User:Raltseye|Raltseye]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 15:30, 28 October 2017 (UTC)
:Nope. They're the same as the Swedish ones. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:56, 28 October 2017 (UTC)

==Hey==
Goes without saying, I'm glad that Bulbapedia is unlocked once more--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 09:58, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
:Agreed. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 10:00, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

== hello ==

Hello, well, I'm new to the page and I wanted to know what is the error of my grammar, I do not see anything wrong, I just wanted to know what are the mistakes friend.

--[[User:Grizzlyring123|Grizzlyring123]] ([[User talk:Grizzlyring123|talk]]) 11:47, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
:Sorry if this sounds harsh, but your grammar is unsuitable for Bulbapedia's standards. Not using big capital letters when needed is just one of your many problems. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:51, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

Well, I'm sorry, my English is not so good, but I can fix it
--[[User:Grizzlyring123|Grizzlyring123]] ([[User talk:Grizzlyring123|talk]]) 11:47, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

== Help please ==

I would like to be able to edit my profile, but since I am a user I can not do it and it is frustrating. How can I change user to another rank? I want to edit my profile.

I've seen other people if they can

--Grizzlyring123 (talk) 12:16, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
:If you want to edit your user page, just click the red link on your user name. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:18, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

== Finnish name ==

I'm sort of iffy on this one, could you check if it adds up? [[Special:diff/2734483]] --[[User:Raltseye|Raltseye]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 13:11, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
:Yeah, that wasn't right at all. Thanks for asking. Also, it's just a direct translation of "Repel" instead of "Max Repel", so I took the liberty of removing it from that page. If you wish for me to add the correct translation to [[Repel]]'s page, I can gladly do that. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 14:05, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
::Yeah, why not? The Swedish and Danish are litterally both just "Insect spray" anyway, I'll move them too. --[[User:Raltseye|Raltseye]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 16:15, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

== Update Snap Articuno ==

Hi,

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Articuno_(Fossil_2)&diff=0&oldid=2737190
The information on the trivia section is incorrect as the card will have the SNAP writing on the bottom as seen on a copy I have recently purchase from Japan - https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/m224480649
This is misinformation from the old pokemon book which had the wrong scans inside it which didnt have the writing on 3 of the card Squirtle, Charmander and Articuno. I had purchased a squirtle and charmander S~nap promo and forwarded scans for you to update a couple months back and will do the same once the articuno is in my hands. Il send the scans through the discord server as last time.

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:CharmanderSnapBestPhotoContest.jpg /https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:SquirtleSnapBestPhotoContest.jpg As you can see I provided the scans for both of the updated images.

Any problems and information you require just let me know.

[[User:Onlycollectables|Onlycollectables]] ([[User talk:Onlycollectables|talk]]) 12:37, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

== Edit summaries ==

Could you please stop with the semi-aggressive edit summaries, like the "Please" and "No, no, no" that you commonly do. If you have a problem with someone's reading and writing skills, you can go to the user's talk page and correct them on their errors. Do understand that there are some users who first language is not English, so errors are bound to appear. Thank you.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:20, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

== Bone Rush edit ==

I apologize, I was looking at the wrong section. That said, I think the 'Incomplete' tag belongs in the 'In other generations' section, as that is where the Gen VI image is missing from {{unsigned|Bg samm}}
:I can understand that. Just be careful not to make this kind of mistakes in the future. Also, don't forget to sign your comments on talk pages. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:03, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

== Item availability ==

I'd argue that since Po Town is only accessible in Sun, Moon, Ultra Sun, and Ultra Moon(as of right now), someone would know that an item is available in all those versions without it having to be stated outright.--[[User:Voltdetector|Voltdetector]] ([[User talk:Voltdetector|talk]]) 13:08, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
:I was merely trying to avoid confusion, so that people don't mistake that the note saying "USUM" would be referring to ''both'' items, instead of just the latter. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 13:20, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
::You could simply put the Team Skull Cap first, I feel that could resolve the problem just as well.--[[User:Voltdetector|Voltdetector]] ([[User talk:Voltdetector|talk]]) 03:04, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

== Platinum's Froslass ==
Do you want [[User:FinnishPokéFan92/Platinum's Froslass]] to be mainspaced? If so ask [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] to do it. I'll also stop creating redirect links. [[User:Reinhartmax|Reinhartmax]] ([[User talk:Reinhartmax|talk]]) 11:53, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
:Thanks. I'll do so. And thanks for hearing me out. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 11:56, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
::Do you plan on asking him anytime soon? [[User:Reinhartmax|Reinhartmax]] ([[User talk:Reinhartmax|talk]]) 18:57, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
:::I meant to ask during the weekend, but forgot. I'll get to it at some point, I haven't forgotten about it. Don't worry. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:03, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

== Undoing linking edits ==

We were talking about this before, and as far as I'm concerned, my conclusion was to respect you and your position even though I don't really understand all of it. And because you do have a point that, at any specific point in time, {{template|DL}}s are typically better than redirect links, I've refrained from going to any page in order to only change links there when I have no intention to create the item article(s) myself soonish. It's just a matter of time, though, since all (regular) items are going to receive independent articles in the near future (hopefully). Not sure if you knew this, but now you do, please be aware that I don't really see the point in changing links to future articles back to DLs as adamantly as you have done. That's essentially two extra edits (and I'm trying to minimize edits), and more future work.

To answer [[Special:Diff/2754146|your specific question]]: I've asked a staff member who has the appropriate powers to mainspace articles on both "Bottle Cap" and "Gold Bottle Cap" that already exist in the userspace. You will see my motivation when you think of what would happen if these are mainspaced ''before'' the links are changed: text that says "Gold Bottle Cap" would link to a page that does not cover "Gold Bottle Cap", and that's to be avoided. (And I didn't look for pages with only <code><nowiki>{{DL|Bottle Cap|Bottle Cap}}</nowiki></code> but without <code><nowiki>{{DL|Bottle Cap|Gold Bottle Cap}}</nowiki></code>, because the first one technically ''can'' be changed later, which I understand you prefer.)

So, please, try to not only see your position, and try to avoid edit wars, for I can assure you I try to do the same. If any of ''my'' edits are of serious concern, I will probably have a reason, and some others probably have, too. And before anything else, please don't just undo, and don't undo and ask for clarification in the edit summary; I know you know where my talk page is. Thanks! [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 16:33, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

:I've had some (kinda sorta) paperwork to do today, so I'm going to be brief here: I apologize for my apparent selfishness. It's a trait I have that is not intentional, and I didn't mean to offend you. I understand now. Thanks for explaining. (PS. I had kinda already forgotten about this whole thing already, in fact, so this came just a little bit out of the blue.) --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:39, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
::You're welcome, and thanks for understanding. (I wasn't offended anyway, there's no hard feelings.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 16:45, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
:::Good. No hard feelings on either side. Let's hope you'll get those item pages done soon. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:48, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

== Violet City ==

Why are you continually undoing changes that make the page more accurate and precise? Retrogression = Evil, are you trying to be evil?

[[User:Monsterhart|monsterhart]] ([[User talk:Monsterhart|talk]]) 09:54, 5 April 2018 (PT)

In the future if you notice a formatting error in 1 part of a multipart edit where the other part(s) are simply corrections to text, edit the page and fix the formatting of that one part. Don't just undo the entire edit, leave it alone and let someone else fix it if you don't feel like fixing the mistake properly. I eventually figured out the mistake and fixed it myself anyway.

[[User:Monsterhart|monsterhart]] ([[User talk:Monsterhart|talk]]) 10:57, 5 April 2018 (PT)

:1) Whoa! That's a bit too much. There's no reason to be rude. 2) Except that you didn't. You only added one item instead of the complete Rock Smash item list. However, I ''do'' thank you for noticing that Violet City had a smashable rock which Bulbapedia had forgotten to mention. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:20, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

::1) Why didn’t you answer my question? How is it too much to ask if your intention is to hurt the website rather than improve it? And is it considered rude to ask someones intentions now? Where I’m from asking someones intentions is how issues are resolved and thus is seen as a sign of maturity, not rudeness.

::2) Except that I did, which you know because in your most recent edit in order to worsen the grammar you edited the same thing which was the other thing I had edited. I changed it from “On the grey island...” to “In the upper left of the grey island...” which I made to improve the website after spending a significant amount of time searching the entire island and it being in the last place I looked. You were undoing this the entire time too, and it shows you what has been changed so I don’t understand how you could have actually missed it and assume you are just lying for some reason... Further more you changed it to “On the upper left side of the small grey island...” which adds an unnecessary word (more reading without improved clarity is a detriment) and changes a correct word to an incorrect one. Though in your defense that is a common mistake for ESL learners, at least I’m assuming Finnish is your first language.

::So why would you undo that? In my second message and on I then knew you were undoing it because of the rock smash thing but I didn’t know that at the time I wrote the first message. Also I’ve played HG twice and SS once and all 3 times I found a Heart Scale in that exact rock, so I assumed it was a permanent fixture rather than just a random event.

::So the only reason I was able to imagine that you would be undoing my post is because you wanted the website to not progress, but instead of just reporting you I did the mature thing in recognizing that it could be for some practical reason I was unable to imagine and asked you in the most concise way I could think of (because people on the internet vehemently insist on conciseness 99.9% of the time) if what I thought was truly the case or if you had some other reason for it. Which it turns out you did have a good reason, at least for part of it. You’ve yet to give me a good reason for why you were also undoing my clarity change for that specific item though.

::[[User:Monsterhart|monsterhart]] ([[User talk:Monsterhart|talk]]) 10:27, 6 April 2018 (PT)

:::I'll be as brief as possible with my answer: I'm not trying to be evil or prevent this site from progressing, quite the opposite, in fact. I'm merely trying to keep the quality as close to Bulbapedia's standards as possible. And you can see that your most recent edit on the page was reversed by one of the higher-ranking members of this site, meaning that you may have to broaden your views on how to improve this site. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:47, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

::::He clearly did that to be offensive. He was flaunting his authority in order to punish me for “attacking” you (as he stated on my talk page) even though I clearly did not do that. Such a thing is an abuse of power and does not mean that I was wrong about this.

::::Edit: However I do feel that the situation on the Violet City page between the two of us is more or less resolved, and no longer feel the need to further discuss it with you. If you really were offended by the wording of my initial question I apologize, that was not my intention. My intention was to express my perspective on your actions and give you the opportunity to present an alternative possibility, so as to lead to the resolution of the “undo war” between us which was indeed the result.

::::[[User:Monsterhart|monsterhart]] ([[User talk:Monsterhart|talk]]) 11:44, 6 April 2018 (PT)

== SM052 Complaint ==

"Not good enough for Bulbapedia's standards"? Dude, I left that incomplete stub tag there for a reason. The plot was still incomplete. I was gonna go back to add more and you went and deleted it entirely, all because it's not good enough for Bulbapedia's standards? How could the plot I put in, which was incomplete as the stub stated, be not good enough for Bulbapedia's standards? You have to be more specific than that, or do you insist the plot remains blank until its fully complete? You sir, have no disrespect for those who were just trying to help. Now thanks to you, I lost motivation to work on that page. [[User:Char89|Char89]] ([[User talk:Char89|talk]]) 05:16, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
:Whoa! No need to be aggressive! Just leaving the synopsis temporarily incomplete wasn't the problem. (I've done some synopsises in bits myself, too.) The problem was your grammar. ''That'' was the thing I felt wasn't up to code. Sorry. I know you want to help, but if your help isn't good enough, it will just take other users' time in fixing it. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:21, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
::My grammar? You mean to tell me, the plot I've written on that page was deleted because of my grammar? What are you, an English teacher? What the heck's wrong with my grammar that causes you to delete it? And don't think I don't notice the other complaints you've been receiving. I've seen users upset with you because you delete their edits because of "Bulbapedia's standards." If it violates the standards, then let the admins handle it. You're making a bad reputation for yourself by being the grammar nazi here. I was only trying to contribute to the wiki, but instead you undo my edit saying my grammar is bad. What a waste of my time. Listen, if you don't stop deleting pages because it doesn't meet the standards, sooner or later someone will report you to the admin. You want to talk grammar, here's something. "Synopsises" is not even a real word. [[User:Char89|Char89]] ([[User talk:Char89|talk]]) 05:39, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

== Core Series games Quotes ==

I'm currently doing a overhaul of all the quotes for NPCs for all core series games from Kanto to Alola. For Colress, the line for Route 8 after becoming the Champion "Genesect is a..." only happens when a player selects "I don't", and not for "I do!". And last time, we have decided against bold-ing the words in a "scream" speech balloon. As for the linking of references to other characters or items, I'll have to ask if we are doing the linking or not (well, I predict they'll say it doesn't matter). If yes, I'll have to apply this to all other NPCs. If not, all links references will be removed. Cheers! — '''[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang]][[User talk:Ruixiang95|95]]''' 08:50, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
:Sorry. I just got a little carried away. I can easily get arrogant towards people who are doing stuff I at first glance deem wrong. I apologize. It's a characteristic of mine that needs some SERIOUS work. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 09:31, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

== Re: {{t|Dragon}} trivia. ==

Another page ''used to'' have trivia like that, but not anymore. Also, if we say that Dragon has been combined with every type except Bug, shouldn't we say Grass has been combined with every type except Fire? (We say that Water and Flying have been combined with every type in their lists of Pokémon). [[User:Dinosauramiable|Dinosauramiable]] ([[User talk:Dinosauramiable|talk]]) 12:15, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
:If that fact is indeed true, I see why not. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:18, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
It's already listed there. [[User:Dinosauramiable|Dinosauramiable]] ([[User talk:Dinosauramiable|talk]]) 20:13, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

== File name mistake on the Archives ==
I accidentally uploaded a file to "BW076 original trailer.png" when I meant to put "SM076 original trailer.png." Are you able to fix it, please? [[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] ([[User talk:The Great Butler|talk]]) 04:40, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
:I'd love to help you, but I can't. Only admins are allowed to move image file names. Ask one of them if they could help. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 04:57, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

==Adding legendary stats==
I am planning to add the stats of the legendary Pokémon encounters that are uncatchable (eg. fused Kyurem, fused Necrozma, Ultra Necrozma). [[User:Jskylinegtr|Jskylinegtr]] ([[User talk:Jskylinegtr|talk]]) 05:43, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
:Sorry, but the higher-ups have said no to this kind of stuff before and now. Talk with them if you want to. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:50, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

== Poke ball on Route 104 ==

It requires going through a certain section of Petalburg Woods, and doesn't that section require cut? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 19:39, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
:I checked it, and it doesn't. Next time, please check stuff like this before making an edit. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 03:38, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
::You're right. Sorry. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 04:05, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

== Shadow Hold ==

Why did you delete my edit? [[Shadow Hold]] IS similar to [[Spirit Shackle]] in the way it prevents opponents from switching out.
:All they have in common is that they trap the opposing Pokémon. That's it. Shadow Hold doesn't even do damage like Spirit Shackle. Besides, they were released four Generations apart. PS. Please use link templates to avoid redirect links. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:17, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

== Protecting moves ==

Why did you delete my edits on Protecting moves failing? If both mons use Protect in the same turn, then the move for the mon that protects last fails. I described this and, instead of fixing it yourself because I have bad grammar or something, you deleted it; your reasoning was that it "Needs a bit of adjusting... " Here is a link to why that information is important in battle: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7randombattle-767832306 (skip to turn 19). {{unsigned|Dawkamist}}
:It's not that I don't believe the validity of your information. I just think you didn't do those edits properly, like placing the text in improper places, and not putting links where they should be. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 04:42, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

== Unique moves ==

The point of not presuming a move is for people not to presume they know best. You may think this or that case is COMPLETELY obvious, but if we allow one person to get by because something is "obvious", that just leaves room for someone else to think they know best too and complain if it was okay for someone else but not them. The whole point is to just cut out ANY possibility for such arguments by ONLY acknowledging moves that have been explicitly named or (at least tentatively) explicitly approved otherwise.

Mind Blown has not been approved. You cannot assume that it should be.

It may be very possible that Mind Blown will be approved, but that's not ''your'' decision. Ask. Ask anyone on staff. Then we'll decide what's warranted.

[[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 13:48, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

== Clean Up messages ==

Hi FinnishPokéFan92,

I've noticed you have placed several clean up messages on a few of the plot summaries that I have posted. While other users have cleaned up several other Sun and Moon episode plots, I've noticed that SM063 and SM068 are yet to be cleaned up, as well as an earlier alert posted on Morty's Gengar. It would be of great assistance if you can point out what glaring issues that are required to be cleaned up, I'm afraid that I cannot see any issues, and maybe other users cannot either. Plus the feedback would also help me for my future edits going forward.

Also thank you for the work you have been doing on various associated anime pages. I appreciated the note of feedback on the Cinnabar Island page as it allowed me to put the right information on the right pages.[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 14:37, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the compliment! 
The thing is, I just find that the language in some synopsises is kinda clunky and does not flow too well. I would want to help fixing them, but, to be perfectly blunt, I don't usually have the patience or attention span required for that kind of thing. Sorry. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:08, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
:: Flow - that gives me some direction to follow. Thanks [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 16:43, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

== SM081 ==

I was wondering why you removed the Battle Royal part from the major events. I would think a battle like that would be important enough. {{unsigned|Rahl}}
:I don't see it being as important to the overall plot of the series as Ash's previous matches with the Masked Royal. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 19:05, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

== Stub Removal ==

Hi FinnishPokéFan92,

I and GrammarFreak01 have been busy editing several stub pages in the hope of having them be removed from the stub list. I thought it was best that a third party, like yourself, do the evaluation and hopefully the removal of such messages? Or is there someone else who is in charge of such a procedure? [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 04:15, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
:Oh? Was supposed to be decided by somebody else? Sorry. I didn't know. I just figured that those pages seemed long enough to not be considered stubs anymore. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 04:19, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
:: I'm afraid they hadn't been evaluated yet. Here are the pages:

*[[Absentia Natural Park]]
*[[Ephraim's parents]]
*[[Alex's grandfather]]
*[[Angus]]
*[[Corina]]
*[[Betty]]
*[[Delbert]]
*[[Gail]]
*[[Luna Carson]]
*[[cliff]]
*[[Kingdom of the Vale]]
*[[Galea]]
*[[Fitzwilliam]]
*[[Connally]]
*[[Edmund]]

Thanks [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 04:29, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
:::I'm sorry, but I really didn't need that list. I didn't even ask for it. I merely apologized for not knowing that the removal of the "stub" template apparently requires a third party decision (if that indeed is the case, because I've never even heard of it before). In either case, that list is completely unnecessary for me. Just so that you know. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 04:51, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
::::I'd misinterpreted your earlier comment. And I am not aware of needing a third party to remove stubs, I just assumed that may be the case, apologies for the confusion.[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 04:57, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
:::::Good. So no harm done. Apology accepted. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:08, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
::::::I found information on the stub removal policy. It clarified that if a page was filled with enough information the stub alert could be deleted. For some other features like voice actor's or a new image an incomplete alert could be placed instead. [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 06:01, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

I think all you need to do to remove stubs is to add verifiable information to it that might've been originally missing. That's all. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 08:06, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

== Route 112 trivia ==

When someone adds trivia that's good but has bad grammar, you're supposed to correct the grammar, right? Not delete it completely? Anyway, what was wrong with my trivium? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 20:26, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
:The grammar wasn't up to code, the title was done the wrong way... I admit. It was late and I simply didn't feel up to just fixing it, so I took the easier route. But whatever the case, it wasn't up to code. The piece of trivia itself may very well have been valid, but the way you tried to add it to the page was inadequate. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 04:33, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
::I re-added it. Is it better now? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 05:06, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
:::Almost. The title was a bit off, but I fixed it. Now it should be fine. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:16, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
::::Thanks for not deleting it this time. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 05:31, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
:::::The mistakes were much more easier to fix up and I wasn't as tired as before, so it was no problem. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:39, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

== Route 5 Cut link ==

I'm trying my best, but I can't for the life of me think of any good reason to remove a link to {{m|Cut}} on the [[Kalos Route 5]] page. Is there some Bulbapedia policy that discourages linking to moves in that context? Or one that encourages scouring page histories to undo any revision that didn't add ''enough'' to the article? I was under the impression that minor edits were allowed. And if it were up to me, I'd say the only revisions that should be undone are ones that make an article worse. — [[User:Randomwaffle23|Randomwaffle23]] ([[User talk:Randomwaffle23|talk]]) 02:20, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
:Oh, minor edits are allowed. We just don't tend to add links to Trainer template divider titles. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:31, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
::Why? — [[User:Randomwaffle23|Randomwaffle23]] ([[User talk:Randomwaffle23|talk]]) 14:31, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
:::Why not? Besides, the links to those moves also exist elsewhere on the page. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:17, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
::::"Why not?" Because links can be helpful, that's why we have them. And I really, truly doubt that duplicating links is the issue, because if it were, we wouldn't allow [[Kalos Route 18#West of the river|fifty-one duplicate links in a single table]]. The most relevant portion of the [[Bulbapedia:Manual of style#Article titles|manual of style]] recommends to "only link to an article once within a given portion of text". I assume a portion of text means a paragraph, bullet point, table cell, or the like, not a whole article. "''Instances further apart may be linked to more than once.''" (The [[wp:Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Linking#Repeated links|corresponding Wikipedia policy]] is that "a link may be repeated in infoboxes, ''tables'', […] and at the first occurrence after the lead.")
::::The question you should ask yourself when undoing an edit is, ''How did this edit make the article worse?'' You need a better answer than "why not". — [[User:Randomwaffle23|Randomwaffle23]] ([[User talk:Randomwaffle23|talk]]) 17:24, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
:::::Whoa! You were more versed in this than I would've guessed. I'll be honest with you, I just saw that your edit was poorly made (as well as unnecessary for the reasons I gave above), so I deleted it. Sorry. But I still stand by my point: there's no need for it. It's perfectly fine to have repeated move links in the item templates and such, but there's no need to start adding move links to where they have never existed, such as the Trainer template divider titles. So may I please ask you to let this go? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:31, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
::::::I'm curious what you mean when you say the edit was "poorly made". I took care to include an HTML span tag to make sure the link stayed white instead of turning blue, since blue would've looked poor on the dark background. (The <nowiki>{{m|Cut}}</nowiki> template doesn't allow tags like that, which is why I didn't use it.) The only way someone would even have noticed the link is if they wanted to click it, or if they were scouring the page history.
::::::At this point don't really care anymore whether the thing's linked or not. I'm not gonna re-link it. I just want to convince you not to undo any more people's contributions without a better reason than "because I personally wouldn't have bothered making this edit". Can we agree to that? — [[User:Randomwaffle23|Randomwaffle23]] ([[User talk:Randomwaffle23|talk]]) 18:50, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
:::::::Hey, I swear that has NEVER been my (main) reason for undoing edits. Most of the time, there hs been a very good reason for it, only in a small minority have I done it for personal disagreement. Also, I recommend you learn to use the {{template|color}} and {{template|color2}} templates. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 19:02, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
::::::::If that's not the reason, then what is? I can't think what the difference might be between an "unnecessary" edit and one that's not worth bothering to make. And if it's because I didn't use the template, why would you undo rather than improve? Adding {{template|color2}} is easy. I didn't know about the template, but you did, and that's why wikis are collaborative.
::::::::[[wp:Help:Reverting#Before reverting|Undoing a good-faith edit is invalidating someone's attempt to help the wiki,]] which discourages them from contributing in the future. It should be done ''only'' when there's no feasible way to improve their contribution instead. — [[User:Randomwaffle23|Randomwaffle23]] ([[User talk:Randomwaffle23|talk]]) 21:09, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::Geez! Based on your edit that I undid, I jumped to conclusions and assumed you were just a new user who didn't know their stuff, but clearly I was wrong! I'm sorry. Also, I'm not defending those edits that I've done for personal disagreements rather than solid reasons. I was being kinda stupid at those times. And hey, I hope those new templates will come in handy for you! --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:41, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

== "That is only if we have more Team Skull Grunts than them" ==
No it isn't. Look at BW114 and SM025's pages. It's listed because they're a part of the collection of Grunts. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 14:50, 26 July 2018 (UTC)
:Thanks for pointing those out. I fixed them now. That is only used if more than the named Grunts appear in an episode. Otherwise, that's misleading. And it applies to other groups of people as well. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 15:49, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

== SM083 ==

Hi,

Just saw the large undoing, which wasn't required.

I was about to apologize, and have also just re-checked you edits but they are reading in unnecessary information and grammatical errors that my edition had previously fixed. The reason for the drastic changes was largely due words ending in -ing, which are typically avoided to give the sentences more of an present tense than sounding like you are in midst of an action. And I noticed a few of the links were missing. Though I must commend you on the detail, an edit summary with over 10,000 bytes usually indicates an action packed episode and I feel you were able to capture that. I apologize for the sudden changes, but saw that they were needed. I wouldn't view the changes as a complete re-write, as I didn't have to add anything to the actual plot, it was literally just editing the sentences which in some were sometimes too long (I make the same error as well).[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 11:35, 28 July 2018 (UTC)
:I haven't had time and currently don't have time to sort out who's in the right or in the wrong here but I do know you both need to stop edit warring. It accomplishes nothing, so talk it out here or on the article's talk page. ☼ Blazing[[User talk:Blazingfist|Fist ☼]] 11:50, 28 July 2018 (UTC)
::To clarify the situation, FinnishPokeFan92 became overwhelmed with all of my changes which were grammar based and undid everything by republished his old edition. I later found out and re-added them, with some of his later ones in mind as the same issues had persisted from earlier.[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 11:56, 28 July 2018 (UTC)
:::I had actually only ''mostly'' undone your edit earlier today, modifying some of the parts you had added to better fit into the synopsis, while readding some stuff that I feel was unnecessarily removed or removing some overly detailed parts. GrammarFreak01 had actually already redone a lot of your edits when I plastered my own version on top of their version, but they took it well. Let's be honest here: your intentions were good, but you also ended up adding a lot of new errors in the process, replacing the mistakes that were already being fixed. You should try just fixing the mistakes instead of rewriting the entire synopsis, unless the mistakes simply are that extensive. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:18, 28 July 2018 (UTC)
:::: I streamlined the plot to reduce some of the sentence lengths and also some of the unnecessary details such as characters asking questions. GrammarFreak01 made some structural changes which were incorporated and I re-added some of your edits, prior to me reading the edited plot summary that I had earlier done as yes, there were in fact a few wrong words used by me. The sentences that were re-written was because the tense was wrong (words ending in -ing are usually avoided, but were throughout the old edition), not the information. And some words don't work well in the same sentence with just a change of tense, so a sentence has to be reconfigured to account for that.[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 12:32, 28 July 2018 (UTC)
:::::Please note that I saw your re added segments to the plot line, despite them having been removed for good reasons. I will not be making any further changes despite my previously outlined reasons for the deletions.

:::::Now my real issue is with your snide comments on the SM084 and SM085 pages and again leaving another useless "not up to standards" template. Whether those are of a personal nature or not, please note that actual feedback for both myself and for PKMN Trainer Ryan who added the respective plots is required to ensure such errors do not occur again and that either the users in question or another user can rectify them. Do not continue this same conduct as it is a cause for friction and does not aid anyone or even the site, as you are unwilling to make the necessary changes yourself, in becoming better [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 09:05, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
::::::Firstly: what added segments are you referring to?
::::::Secondly: those templates are not "useless". Those synopsises are in a genuine need of improvement, no matter who made them. True, maybe I should notify the users who made said synopsises directly on their talk pages, but I don't see that I did anything wrong by adding those cleanup templates. Also, your words come off as unnecessarily rude and rather self-important. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 09:33, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
:::::::PardescanSlowbro is right, just adding a cleanup template with a frustrated edit summary helps no one, especially in 1) recent contributions (as opposed to old/low traffic pages), 2) such large contributions, and 3) contributions by regular editors.
:::::::You should try to always make your edit summaries useful if you're going to put anything there. If people are going to contribute regularly, it's much better to help them. More--and more experienced--people on Bulbapedia is a good thing. FYI I read at least the first paragraph of SM 84 and 85 and there's nothing that ABSOLUTELY needs improvement to my eye. (And FWIW, don't worry about telling ME what all the problems are here; I don't need it, they do.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:58, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
::::::::SM085 I can somewhat agree with, but if you seriously aren't seeing anything wrong with SM084's synopsis... I'm actually inclined to just deleting said synopsis so that it can be rewritten from the ground up later. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 07:23, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

== Paintings depicting Pokémon ==

As noted in the [[Bulbapedia:Manual of style/Anime|Manual of Style for anime articles]], statues, posters, and other man made object depicting Pokémon do not count as appearances. Paintings fall under man made objects.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 11:42, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

== Stealing items from [[Iris]] ==

It's possible to steal the Life Orb from Iris' {{tt|Druddigon|All battles except the rematches in Challenge Mode}} or {{tt|Salamence|Rematch in Challenge Mode}}.
[[User:TheICTLiker4|TheICTLiker4]] ([[User talk:TheICTLiker4|talk]]) 05:57, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
:It is. However, you can't just keep the item after the battle, so it doesn't count. Permanently stealing items from NPC Pokémon has been impossible since [[Generation IV]]. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:59, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

== mt moon items ==

i was just being more specific. dome and helix are the actual fossils and it seems better than just fossils, so why not? -[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 02:21, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
:You don't have to be ''too'' specific. They're listed right there on the same list. And about the Super Nerd, he didn't have a name in Generation I, so simply referring him to as "Super Nerd" in the item location description applies to all Generations where he's present. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:05, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
::but dome and helix fossils link to regular fossils so fossils are just another click away. me personally i treat each item as a separate line thats why they all have links so i think being more specific is only beneficial. i agree with the super nerd tho. -[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 17:38, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
:::The paired Fossil articles are planned to be split into their articles, plus I don't think repeated links would look good. Also, why aren't you using any capital letters? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:55, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
::::even if they are being planned to split, we can still link to both when that time comes. and when u say repeating links i see team rocket grunt repeated a million times, which seems fine to me. too lazy to use shift. -[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 21:48, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
:::::Whatever. And I meant repeating links in the item list location descriptions. Also, being too lazy to use shift... Wow. Just, wow. It's honestly not that hard. Don't make yourself look ridiculously lazy, please. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:02, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
::::::so by whatever can i take it i can change the link to dome and helix fossils? :) yeah i also meant repeating links in the item list. i see rocket grunt links a million times there. -[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 21:59, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
:::::::Go ahead. I'll make adjustments if I see it necessary, but I'll keep this conversation in mind while doing so. PS. Please start using big capital letters. It's honestly not that hard. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 07:23, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

== repeated links ==

u seem to have a problem with repeated links; however if i go to mt moon items section i can see a team rocket grunt link over and over. so what's the problem? -[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 19:27, 23 August 2018 (UTC)
:The problem is that you shouldn't ''purposefully'' add repeated links. And removing them is always a plus. Plus, repeated Trainer class links on Trainer lists are a bit different case than repeated links in the item descriptions. PS. Please start using big capital letters when necessary. You're making yourself look lazy by not doing it. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 20:53, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

== {{t|Fairy}} type vs. {{type|Fairy}} ==

What's the difference supposed to be between those two? When am I supposed to use {{t|Fairy}} type and when am I supposed to use {{type|Fairy}}? I find this very confusing. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:26, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
:The difference is that "X-type" is an adjective, while "X type" is a noun. A good mnemonic is that "X-type" is always followed by a word, like "Sylveon is a Fairy-type Pokémon", but "X type" is not, like "Sylveon is a Fairy type". I hope that clears it up for you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:09, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
::Yeah, I think I get it now. Thanks. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 07:27, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

==Redirect==
Don't suppose you know how we can redirect links like Lusamine's Cleffa and Lusamine's Clefairy to [[Lusamine's Clefable]]?--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 19:43, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

:I think I just took care of that. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 21:11, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

::It's really simple, actually. Just make a page with the redirect title, write <nowiki>#REDIRECT</nowiki>, and add the link to the page you want the redirect to lead to after that. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:48, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

== Regarding Playerking ==

Hey, I just want to point out that edit summaries like [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Air_Slash_(move)&diff=2841270&oldid=2841250 these] can be considered rude. It's fine to have disagreements with another user, but to tell them to be quiet isn't the way to solve those disagreements. Preferably, discuss it with Playerking on a suitable talk page.

Besides that, may I ask what your motivation is for adding several moves, such as Flash Cannon for Nebby and Air Slash? I haven't seen the episode yet, but you should know by now that Bulbapedia is built on proof, especially when it comes to moves being used. If they weren't called out on screen, please wait until they are in another episode or wait for the closed captioning. ☼ Blazing[[User talk:Blazingfist|Fist ☼]] 14:33, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
:Okay, I admit that I may have been a bit rude, but those moves have exactly same animations as we've already seen in the anime. Air Slash is even used in this very same episode. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 15:01, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

== Route 206 items ==

Why did you undo my edit? A bunch of other location pages, like Mt. Coronet, have multiple item tables. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 19:55, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
:Yes, your edit was valid. There were just a couple of errors I noticed. 1) Leave a space in between the templates. 2) You missed a couple of items that should've been under the bridge. I also felt a bit grumpy yesterday, so I didn't feel like fixing your edit, so I instead went the lazy route and undid it entirely. Don't worry. I can put it the proper way to satisfy us both now. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:07, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
::Okay thanks. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 16:27, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

== Anime move mistakes ==

I am hereby informing you that, due to continued and widespread failure to follow the anime move policy, I will be instituting a '''3 strikes policy''' for anime moves. If a user adds a move that should not be added, they get a strike. If they make another mistake when they have 3 strikes, they will receive a block. This applies to you as soon as this is posted. (I.e., you are currently at 0 strikes.)

I will attempt to reiterate the anime move policy here so that it as simple as possible to follow:
* If a move is explicitly commanded, identified by a character after the fact, or identified by closed captions, it can be added.
* If the move is on [[User:Force Fire/List of moves with unique animations]], it can be added.
In no other circumstances should a move be added. If you cannot testify that the above conditions were met ''when you added a move'', you will receive a strike. If you feel that a move ''should'' be acknowledged, please feel free to bring it up to me or any {{bp|staff}} member.

[[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:03, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
:I'm going to give you 24 hours to explain how [[Special:Diff/2850812|this reversion]] meets the criteria outlined above. If you cannot, you will gain a strike. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:19, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
::Okay, maybe it doesn't, but honestly, you just aren't using common sense! You are actively removing valid information by saying that since it wasn't stated out loud, it doesn't count. This wasn't an issue at one point in Bulbapedia's history, so why is it now? '''Why?!''' There was a time when we weren't restricted by rules as unnecessarily strict as these! You are actively making Bulbapedia '''lie''' to people by removing information that even '''they''' can see is true and valid! Honestly, if there is uncertainty about a move's identity, then '''discuss''' about it! Don't '''remove''' it!
::Also, like I said in the edit summary, Nebby's attack '''was''' Sunsteel Strike, since it's required to use Searing Sunraze Smash, which it had used in the previous episode. "Glowing headbutt"? Are you serious?! The animation even looks identical to the one in the games in the later appearance! I don't want to consider you as a narrow-minded or stupid person, so please, don't act like one! I'm only trying to help Bulbapedia from hurting itself! --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:23, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
::PS. Sorry about my rudeness there. I'm just really passionate about this subject. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:39, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
:::''"Why is it [an issue] now?"'' Because of things like finding out someone made a wrong guess with Air Slash or Psycho Cut or whatever.
:::You say, ''"if there is uncertainty about a move's identity, then '''discuss''' about it!"'' A number of people one way or another missed the chance...[[Talk:Sunsteel Strike (move)#SM053]]. In fact, I ''was'' half prepared to remove it, but I decided instead to leave that question on the talk page. Then I forgot for a while and when I remembered again I was disappointed to notice it still hadn't gotten any response. Besides which, the same goes for you: '''discuss''' it. Stop reverting just because you're "sure". Stop reverting without any new insights. I don't like to pull the authority card, but stop reverting staff just because you don't like it. '''Discuss'''. This here is important: I DO NOT say that we are hostile to all of your wants. But I, for one, just want some ''order''. We never said that people can just assume—in one place or another, we have explicitly said that's what we don't want. But I've also asked you all to ask someone on staff, and I really can't think of one time where that was anyone's first reaction. Can you see how that just gets frustrating, when I keep trying to push that? That's why I went to zero tolerance with these strikes.
:::DISCUSS. We/I am here to listen. You may be very reasonable, and we may find a way to accomodate you. But it doesn't happen if you won't talk first. (Editing first will get you strikes.)
:::So... You're maintaining that Nebby used Sunsteel Strike. Just to be sure we can talk about the same thing reliably, please...well, please just respond to [[Talk:Sunsteel Strike (move)#SM053]] as requested there. We'll figure it out there.
:::Since you have not been able to meet the criteria clearly outlined above...
:::You are at 1 strike. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 10:40, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
::::I left the response. Again, sorry for my rudeness. I can be rude when I get frustrated, even on authority figures, because in those cases, my mindset basically becomes: "Oh, so this authority figure thinks I can't say something against their opinion? Just watch me!" I know it's not right or polite in the slightest, so, again, I apologise. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 10:59, 20 September 2018 (UTC) PS. I had actually completely forgotten about this strike system until now. That's what tends to happen with me with things that I haven't been reminded of enough.

You're super bringing this on yourself... I'm thinking that if you haven't learned so far (and with so little time passed as well in this recent case), then I'll let you dig your own grave until you finally get deep enough to learn something from it.

I'm going to skip checking whether you can justify [[Special:Diff/2852505|this edit]] since it's about the same thing you got strike 1 for and nothing has changed since then.

You are at 2 strikes. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:21, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
:To be honest, I WAS going to reverse the edit on Sunsteel Strike's own page as well. But I knew you'd react like this, so I instead left a message on the talk page. But apparently, even the thing I did was too much for you. Bleh... --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 07:09, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
:Yeah. I admit. I should've removed the edit I did, or better yet, not done it at all. I'm sorry. Is it possible for me to get that second strike removed? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 07:14, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
::I think not. FWIW 3 strikes is not "out", it's basically your last warning. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 10:22, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

== My error ==

Sorry about mistaking Magic Coat as Mirror Coat, I should have read a little more before posting that. :P ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 13:39, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
:It's okay. The important thing is you recognized your mistake and fixed it. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 13:49, 9 September 2018 (UTC)

== Skrub's Hitmontop ==

Since I was the one who found the information in question I was told I should be the one to explain it. I was prompted to look into this when someone asked me why Eagun's Pikachu could miss moves with 100 Accuracy when battling Skrub. Since I had the files and the know-how, I looked at each instance of Skrub's Hitmontop in Colosseum's common.rel. The important thing to note is that:

The Hitmontop for Eagun's Battle at 0xDD66F9, lists 0xED as holding 0xB3, which translates to a Bright Powder
All other instances, such as in his first battle with you at 0xD34A9, list 0xED as holding 0xCF, which translates to a Black Belt.

I've not seen anyone else who's proven this, so you'll just have to take my word on it.

https://imgur.com/a/YTWog00

[[User:Unalive|Unalive]] ([[User talk:Unalive|talk]]) 18:55, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
:Okay. Thank you. This is a good and reliable source. But next time, please provide your source right away to avoid cases like this. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 20:02, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

== floor order ==

floor order overrides game order? Since when? there are plenty of pages where game order is used over floor order. here's two: https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Rock_Tunnel#Items
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Seafoam_Islands#Items
plus game order is easier to follow--[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 17:20, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
:Those are pages where this issue just hasn't been fixed yet. Feel free to do it yourself, if you want to. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:29, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
::"those are the pages". every page is like this. why is it an issue? why feel the need to impose floor order? game order is so much better. if i am playing a certain game i can just scroll to it and not have to wade thru the items. where did u even get this idea from? --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 18:56, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
:::It's not on '''every''' page. In fact, it's on a ton of pages already. Not in every page (and, as I said above, it'd be good for those pages where this is not the case to have it fixed), but generally speaking, it's preferred to list items in the order of accessibility, which, in the case of places like caves and buildings, means floors, even if it contradicts the game order. This order has received admin approval, as you can see [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Cave_of_Origin&diff=2220841&oldid=2220824 here]. It's an old edit, I know, but the point is still valid. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 19:39, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
::::what u linked i have no problem with: oras and ruby/saph are basically the same game. look at seafoam islands. rby and frlg items are interwoven, which is fine. its that hgss should be listed after, because its layout is entirely different and should not be interwoven with rbyfrlg. and yes it is every page. since u claim its not every page, id like to see an example where its not. cave of origin is not an example. i am listing items in order of accessibility. frlg was released before hg/ss. so hgss items should come after. that simple. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 19:50, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
:::::If the layout of the floors is different, then just keep the floors in a numerical order but put the newer games after the older ones. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:55, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
::::::..that's exactly what i'm doing. for every kanto page i did that since it overlaps with the johto pages. that includes celadon department. why keep that one different. hgss should come after. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 11:42, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
:::::::The point is, '''keep the floors in numerical order'''. You can put the items '''on a floor''' in the obtainable and/or game order, but keep the floor numbers in numerical order. I hope you understood. PS. You should '''seriously''' start using capital letters. It's not that hard or tiresome. Honestly. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:50, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
::::::::why would i use floor order. u said urself that i should list the items in terms of accessibility. not every single place is linear in the sense that i can obtain every single item on a floor before moving on to the next one. sometimes i will for example be able to get an item on the second floor before an item on the first floor. floor order is meaningless. and as ive said, if we do floor order the games will all be mixed together, and why would you want that? --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 17:07, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
::::::::::...This isn't getting us anywhere. We need to ask an admin about this, although I still think you should try to understand my point. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:15, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::::what is ur point exactly? the only thing ive gathered is "use floor order". not a single reason why, tho. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 17:19, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
::::::::::::Why not? It only makes sense. People see the floor numbers before the games anyway, as they, more often than not, read from right to left, so it makes sense to list them in that order. Floor order is the first priority, game order is the second. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:33, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::::::have you not read a single thing ive said. ive given you many reasons why floor order is bad. when people are looking at the items they are playing the game and trying to find them. if u put an item that can be found at the end first thats awful. u said it urself, you should list the itens in terms of accessibility. thats what im doing. now ur saying floor order trumps that? ur contradiciting urself. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 18:44, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
::::::::::::::EternalDragonX, at what order the player finds the items is '''not''' something we can control. Especially for a place that has no linearity. Just because you find an item at a certain order, doesn't mean everyone else will. Most of your concerns (this ties back to the discussion you had on TiddlyWinks page) are just things we cannot control. How the player plays the game is not our issue. Therefore, at what order a player can obtain the item is not a priority since players finds items at a different order.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 08:24, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::so, what, we should list all the items in floor order? and mix all the games together? yea that seems like a great idea, considering no pages are like that. not to mention how confusing that is. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 11:51, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::also, are you suggesting that the order we list items in is irrelevant? thats what it sounds like ur saying, since it isn't something we can "control". which also means that i might as well list an item at the very back of the dungeon before an item right by the entrance right? --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 21:33, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
{{indent}}Floor order and ''then'' game order. The ordering that you're suggesting ("sometimes i will for example be able to get an item on the second floor before an item on the first floor") is what we can't control. So what if you found the item on the second floor first before an item on the first floor? That's not something we can control. Different players play the game differently. The order where you obtain them is not of a high priority for a place like Seafoam Islands or Rock Tunnel, since it's an open area. Routes are a different story, where the ordering should be the items from point A to point B.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:17, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
:so youre seriously telling me that you would mix the gsc items with the firered items in rock tunnel? why would you do that. it serves 0 benefit. and again, youre also saying that i should list an item that may be right by the exit of an area before one near the entrance of an area? that makes no sense. these are yes or no questions by the way. also, im not really "controlling" the players, im just giving them a suggested sequence of obtaining the items; one that wouldnt involve much if any backtracking at all. accessibility order is just so much more convenient: you can get every single item by going down the list, not having to skip several items and then go back up to try and find them again. there's no reason to use floor order --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 11:58, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
::It's not ''that'' confusing. It's not as jumbled up as you're making it out to be. The ordering is still going to be RBY>GSC>FRLG>HGSS, regardless of the template going by floor order. Common sense should still be considered, if you know you're not going to place an item from deep in a dungeon as the first item listed, then I don't know what the problem is. You're well aware of how nonsensical that is. To make it easier, if there are two items by the entrance (one on the left and one on the right), it doesn't matter which one gets listed first because different players are going to get different items first.
::We are not a walkthrough, we are not going to give a suggested ordering, we're just listing the items. No need to be nit picky about the specifics. whether someone doesn't want to backtrack isn't really our problem. Again, players play the games differently. I'd be happy to back track, while other probably wouldn't. That's just how it goes. It's not a high priority.
::If you want to continue this discussion, feels free to come to my talk page or any of the location talk pages. Finnish probably wouldn't want to keep getting notified about his talk page.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:18, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

==Thank you!==
Thanks for helping me out with the formatting on the [[Lush Jungle]] and [[Diglett's Tunnel]] pages! I'm new to editing Bulbapedia, so I'm still getting the hang of how the shortcuts work and what the standards are. If you have any tips/tricks, please let me know! '''[[User:Butterfreeism|–Butterfreeism''']] 18:10, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
:Thanks for the compliment. And certainly! If you feel uncertain about something, feel free to ask me or some other more experienced user. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:29, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

== viridian gym ==

what the hell was the point of that edit. its clearly not about floor order anymore so why even bother. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 12:00, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
:no ones going to answer this for you --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 12:58, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
::I know. I'm just getting tired of this. I saw it as other Gym items going after the reward TMs, but rethinking about it, I'm not so sure about that anymore. I'll see what I'll do with it. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 15:22, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
:::i still dont have the faintest why you put that macho brace at the end. wasnt it you yourself who said items on the same floor can be in game order? --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 17:37, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
::::They're technically in the obtaining order now. The Revive is first because you can obtain it before the Gym battle, the reward TMs are obtained right after the Gym battle (regardless of the game, which is why ''they'' are in game order), and the Macho Brace can be obtained after Giovanni has left after the Gym battle. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 19:04, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
:::::im all for accessibility order. im the one thats preaching it. but that is only limited to being in the same game; rby and frlg are basically the same game. if there was say a potion in the exact same spot as the revive in rby in frlg, yes i would list it right after the revive, before the tm. but hgss is an entirely different game. the layout of everything is different. if an item is in a different location, it should follow game order instead. aka kanto>johto. just because the items happen to be given by the gym leader after being defeated shouldnt mean they should be together. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 19:31, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
::::::first of all that was my talk page not his. secondly i can see you have the time to go through other peoples talk pages but not your own... --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 14:42, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
:::::::i like how u read that talk page but you completely ignore the fact that i specifically ask not to just go and undo my edit because there ARE other improvements i made but you went ahead and undid all of them anyway. so thanks. real classy move. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 14:49, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
::::::::yeah u know what your edit was just so appalling im just gonna undo it and separate the tables myself... something i was planning on doing later... --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 14:56, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::In case you're referring to the Victory Road edit, I reversed it because it was the easy way to put it back the way it was. If you feel like you want to improve it somehow now, feel free to do so. Just don't combine the sections to one again. Also, I DID check my talk page. I'm simply just growing tired of arguing against you and your stubbornness. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 14:58, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
::::::::::jesus christ i LITERALLY said that i was just going to separate the tables right now. and ill do it by breaking it up from MY edit. not yours. still also love the fact that you havent even addressed the issue of viridian gym but you do all this... --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 15:09, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::::I think you're taking this a biiit too seriously. I'm honestly not sure about Gyms, since it's not often we get items other than the reward TMs from them, but for now, I'm satisfied woth how it is, for the reasons I gave you earlier. PS. Could YOU also please respond to my question? Why do you refuse to use big capital letters? It's honestly not hard at all. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:35, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
::::::::::::no im not taking this too seriously. because u went and did your victory road edit i had to undo it so that i could make my edit, which i said i would literally on my talk page, which i know you read. then you go ahead and undo my undo literally WHILE i was making my edit like i said above and i had to go and undo that AGAIN. anymore and they'd accuse me of edit warring.
::::::::::::not sure eh? well guess what. i am. if you dont give me a good reason and address what i said above im undoing your edit on viridian gym.
:::::::::::: ... use ... capital letters? ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4p-SUvicno --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 20:34, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::::::yooooooo i know you read my last message. the fact that you made an edit means youve been on and i seriously doubt you didnt read it. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 16:11, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
::::::::::::::Again, I didn't reply because I'm getting tired of this. Also, you didn't give any good reasoning for why you don't use big capital letters. Or reasoning at all, in fact. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:43, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::all right im undoing your edit. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 17:04, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

== celadon department store ==

im undoing your edit. cuz we talked about how the items should follow game order regardless of floor order. :) --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 01:23, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
:No. You should follow the floor order. Why are you so obsessed about this? It's not right! --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 04:12, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
::wot m8. we talked about it in the first two paragraphs: https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:Force_Fire#floor_order_cont
::game order will always be the same. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 15:33, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
:::...I honestly can't understand your mindset. You're way too obsessed about this. Also, '''please''', write with big capital letters like a mature person would. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 15:47, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
::::You've clearly misinterpreted what I said EternalDragon. What I meant was that the order of the games is always going to be the same order even if the list is following floor order. So for example:
:::::Floor 1:
::::::RBY/FRLG
::::::GSC/HGSS
::::::FRLG
::::::HGSS
:::::Floor 2:
::::::RBY/FRLG
::::::GSC/HGSS
::::::FRLG
::::::HGSS
:::::Floor 3:
::::::RBY/FRLG
::::::GSC/HGSS
::::::FRLG
::::::HGSS
::::The game order is not going to get jumbled up if you follow by floor order.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 16:27, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

==SM084==
Regarding [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=SM084&diff=next&oldid=2859383 my edit here], I had looked beforehand if events such as this one had been noted on other episode pages, but I couldn't find any so I removed it. I figured it'd be weird to leave this when it wasn't done for other Pokémon. But you say it has been done for other Pokémon, so I was wondering what pages you were talking about. Could you maybe show an example? [[User:Satsjoe|Satsjoe]] ([[User talk:Satsjoe|talk]]) 10:46, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
:[[EP075]], [[EP077]], and [[EP111]]. I also guess it could be applied to one or two of Ash's Unova Pokémon that he didn't add to his party right away too, like {{AP|Palpitoad}}. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 10:50, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
::Thanks. Guess I didn't search well enough, my bad. [[User:Satsjoe|Satsjoe]] ([[User talk:Satsjoe|talk]]) 10:58, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
:::It's okay. Errare humanum est. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:55, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

== why not ==

all i did was reorder the items and add links. of course reordering them isnt absolutely necessary, but why not? now theres a semblance of how you obtain the items. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 05:48, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
:Links I can understand, but the reordering? No. These lists are '''supposed''' to be in alphabetical order, '''not''' in obtainable order. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:16, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

== When Nebby learned Sunsteel Strike ==

Can you explain why you think [[Nebby]] learned {{m|Sunsteel Strike}} when it evolved?

I'm also curious about what you meant when you said you received approval for it.

(FYI I'm not inclined to worry about strikes in this case/at this point because it's a weird situation. This is worth sorting out on its own terms for now.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:08, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
:For the exact same reason I said in the edit summary and what we discussed on your talk page just a little while ago: the anime [[SM091#Trivia|recently confirmed]] that exclusive Z-Moves need a certain move to act as their basis, just like in the games. Since Nebby used Searing Sunraze Smash in the episode where it evolved into Solgaleo, it must have also known Sunsteel Strike at the time. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:37, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

== External link on Pokemon breeding ==

Hey, I can see you reverted my change on [[Pokémon breeding]]. Would it be OK to add the link as a referrence? I'd add new section as it doesn't exists for that article. --[[User:Robdy|Robdy]] ([[User talk:Robdy|talk]]) 13:21, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
:Ask an admin. I'd say no, but ask one of them to be sure. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 14:26, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

== Spiritomb edits ==

Is there any specific reason why you removed my edits in the Spiritomb page? {{unsigned|ABlinkAway4}}
:First off: new comments go to the bottom of the talk page. You can add a new section by clicking the "+" next to the "Edit" button.
:Second: don't forget to sign your comments. The sign button is right above the edit window, the second to last button.
:Third: while the trivia '''was''' valid, it was poorly written and placed. Sorry. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 10:31, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

==Archive images==
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pok%C3%A9_Problem&diff=prev&oldid=2870434
I hid them for the simple reason that I didn't know they were uploaded yet and they always get hidden there without any problem. They were also hidden because they don't get uploaded that quickly. I don't hide things for no reasons, so please don't get annoyed without knowing the reason. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]])!
:I managed to find a HD version of the episode soon after it had aired. That's where I got those pictures. Sorry if you felt like I offended you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 15:41, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

== Pokémon League (Alola)/Title Defense page ==

I confirmed that Sophocles's Magnezone is Analytic in USUM. See also [https://twitter.com/zakocky/status/1056857442246569984 my tweet]. Deutsch and Chinese version say too so.--[[User:Zaggyo|Zaggyo]] ([[User talk:Zaggyo|talk]]) 06:56, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
:Okay. Sorry. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 07:01, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

== Beta Page Revision ==

Just curious why my two edits were undone; I thought they were helpful. The space on the XD page in case people though the entire thing was one item and the notes on the Colosseum page to note that there were only a handful of noted Pokémon among the lists are never available in the final game. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 19:37, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
:Pardon me. I didn't think that the space was necessary and the Colosseum edit could've been done a bit better. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 20:12, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
::Ah, let me know how it could be done better so I can improve on it then; thank you. :) ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 20:20, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

== wat ==

why are you removing my links --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 11:03, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
:They were repeat links. Also, don't forget to use the {{template|pkmn}} and {{template|pkmn2}} templates to make links simpler to add. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 13:05, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
::gee, maybe it wouldve been nice to say that in the change instead of having me come and ask. hmmmmmmmmmmmmm. and those links were the first in those sections; they were repeated, but in an above section. it should be fine to repeat them --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 13:21, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
:::1) You're being unnecessarily rude. 2) Okay, valid point, but I'm still not sure. 3) I'm really not in the mood of arguing with you again. Please ask someone higher up, like Force Fire or Chosen. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 13:24, 31 October 2018 (UTC)

== Facade ==

I checked the RAWs, and Viz's translation is correct. It was Facade. I want to move the file, but which is the Electrike's nickname in the Viz version? The image currently says "Rikey", but it says "Rikelec" on the template itself. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 17:47, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
:It's the latter. I added it to the template only a few hours ago. And while you're at it, could you also move the other move pictures from the same page? I also changed their names in the templates to match the ones in the Viz translation. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:18, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

== Recent edit ==
You've been told by an admin that you shouldn't undo an edit just because YOU think it includes bad grammar. https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Spiritomb_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&diff=prev&oldid=2868512 That's not constructive. [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 15:33, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
:Sorry. It's just a fact that said edit legitimately contained grammatical errors. I also personally saw that the sentence structure could've been better. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:46, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

== Detective Pikachu Cameos ==

Why did you remove the cameo Pokemon from the Detective Pikachu film page? They do appear in the film and I did specifically list them as being a cameo. So, why did you remove them? Thanks. '''Ice''' [[User talk:The IceCream|Cream]] 16:28, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
:Because they weren't even actually featured. For example, Articuno and Steelix were only mentioned on a poster. That does not count as an appearance. Not even as a cameo. And same goes for other Pokémon pictures as well. Bulbapedia only counts direct appearances. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 19:21, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
::Well, they make an appearance somewhere in the trailer even if it's so small. Shouldn't that count for something? '''Ice''' [[User talk:The IceCream|Cream]] 21:57, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
:::I just told you: indirect appearances don't count. Especially ones that are only mentioned. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:55, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
::::How does appearing on a poster not count as a cameo? I am just curious to why you think this. '''Ice''' [[User talk:The IceCream|Cream]] 15:51, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
:::::Even if it DOES count as a cameo, it still doesn't count as a proper appearance. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:33, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
::::::That's why I listed it as a cameo and not a proper appearance. '''Ice''' [[User talk:The IceCream|Cream]] 19:04, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
:::::::I said: Bulbapedia doesn't count those. Period. As in, they do not belong to the characters section. At all. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 19:58, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

== [[Trophy Garden]] edit war ==

Hi there. You removed my edits, despite me requesting a discussion before doing so, and me having started a talk page discussion about this topic. I am happy to talk about this if you will stop reverting without discussion, but due to the edit warring, I will also be calling in an administrator. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 13:03, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
:Your links and references needed fixing, which I've done now. There's no need for an admin. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 13:09, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
:: Thanks for the fixes! I haven't been an active wiki contributor in several years now, and I'm a bit rusty. I would have appreciated if you'd have just talked to me, though I circled [[user:Blazingfist]] in for oversight. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 13:13, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
:::It seems that {{user|Force Fire}} agrees with me about the notability of this rumor. Sorry. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 13:41, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
:::: Would you mind having a look at the scope of materials discussing the Secret Garden rumour and re-evaluating? --[[user:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] 11:20, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
:::::Sorry, but I agree with Force Fire. It's not as notable as the Mew truck. You shouldn't trust sites that rely on speculation instead of any creditable sources. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 11:32, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
:::::: What exactly is your criteria here for speculation and credible sources? Many of those articles are published on highly notable sites like Destructoid, and they themselves compare the notability of the Secret Garden rumour to that of the truck. Take for example the start of the Syfy article:

::::::: Whether it's Pikablu, the Mew under the truck, the PokeGods, Bill's secret garden, or Pokémon Purple, the game where you could play as Team Rocket, you've probably heard a Pokémon rumor or two if you've spent any amount of time with the franchise.

:::::: The Secret Garden is one of the most notable rumours from Gen I, and its longevity and spread demonstrate that. --[[user:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] 11:46, 21 November 2018 (UTC)

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== Subpages of a userpage ==

Hello, I noticed you warning people about their userpages, so I thought you'd be the right person to ask this. The thing is, I would like to create a subpage listing my in-game teams using the standard team template, since I want there to be more things related to Pokémon and me on my page. I wanted to ask whether or not it is allowed at all and what I should keep in mind besides not editing excessively. Thank you! [[User:Kikugi|Kikugi]] ([[User talk:Kikugi|talk]]) 10:16, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
:Making subpages for that is fine, the rules for subpages is the same as a normal userpage. An edit to your subpage also counts to the "three userspace edits per day" rule.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 10:28, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

== Another offensive username ==

Puta is a really rude word in Spanish(I think the account maker failed to use proper alts, but their intent is clear...is this worth your time for an unacceptable username?--[[User:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|BlisseyandtheAquaJets]] ([[User talk:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|talk]]) 17:16, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

== "Not everything is a pun" ==

...I never said everything is, but SM is known for them and "ワル" is not a Japanese word, but "warui" (悪い) is! And since it's spelled as "ワル" and "Warubiaru" (ワルビアル) is in the episode it makes sense it's a pun. I have no idea what your problem is and I don't care, but I've already explained why it's a pun. "ワル" isn't used as "bad" in katakana, but words are used in different characters when they're a joke. Like the episode with Dhelmise with "Ikari" (anger) being used as "いかり" as "anchor" but the same spelling "Ikari" also can be used to mean "怒り" (anger). [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 19:31, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
:Please respond and change it back because it's not spelled the right way, meaning it is a pun. I don't care what your problem is, but not correctly addressing a pun in a title that clearly has one just makes Bulbapedia look stupid. I've been obvious why it's a pun. Why can episode titles like SM071, SM065, and SM040 be acknowledged but not this? [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 14:54, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
::Just because "waru" is written in katakana, doesn't mean it no longer means "悪" or has a different meaning. "ワル" is still "悪", it's not some nonsensical word. And yes, "悪" can be used by itself. As for the title, "waru" could also be referring to Nanu, considering his attire and the fact the title includes "oyaji" (since it's "...waru oyaji wa...").
::As for the other episodes, they're fine. Ikari can mean either Anchor and Anger, like you said, so that's a pun. "Mairimasu" ''is'' pure nonsense and could only be a pun. "Pan-paka-pan" is a trumpet fanfare with just happens to include the word "pan", and the episode was about bread.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 15:20, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
:::The idea that not translating a pun is bad needs to be addressed.
:::Translating puns is HARD.
:::It is ''not'' always worth wracking your brain over or compensating for otherwise. And it's not even necessarily worth forcing something. Not translating a pun does not make Bulbapedia look stupid... [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:37, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

== Surge/Terrain confusion ==

There's confusion going on in the anime whether the [[Tapu]] are activating their signature abilities or using the Terrain moves. This issue has been resolved with {{DL|Recurring wild Pokémon in the anime|Tapu Koko}}, but people are still mixing up {{DL|Recurring wild Pokémon in the anime|Tapu Lele}} and {{DL|Recurring wild Pokémon in the anime|Tapu Bulu}}'s Abilities with their Terrain moves. When Tapu Lele and Tapu Bulu activated their Abilities {{a|Psychic Surge}} and {{a|Grassy Surge}} respectively, users are assuming that they are using the attacks {{m|Psychic Terrain}} and {{m|Grassy Terrain}} instead. That is not the case. In ''[[SM037|Rising from the Ruins!]]'' and [[SM075]], when Tapu Lele and Tapu Bulu enter battle with Rockruff and {{AP|Lycanroc}} respectively, their Surge Abilities go off at the start of their battles. This happened with Tapu Koko as well when it battled {{AP|Pikachu}} in ''[[SM002|The Guardian's Challenge!]]'' and ''[[SM019|A Guardian Rematch!]]''. The Terrain moves can go off during any point of the battle, however the Surge Abilities can only activate when the Pokémon enter the field. Another point to show that it's their abilities activating in those episodes and not their attacks is in ''[[SM052|Revealing the Stuff of Legend!]]'' where all four Tapu used the four Terrain moves to show {{Ash}} and {{ashfr|the gang}} [[Nebby#In_the_anime|Nebby]]'s backstory. Even the anime makes mistakes as shown in SM075 where [[Acerola]] and {{Rotom}} misidentify Tapu Bulu's Grassy Surge as Grassy Terrain. --[[User:PKMNAdventurer|PKMNAdventurer]] ([[User talk:PKMNAdventurer|talk]]) 21:32, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
:I've removed them and added a hidden notice. Abilities and moves need to be explicitly said, especially those that would potentially have the same exact animation.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 03:11, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
::Ok, looks like Psychic Terrain was confirmed via dub captions (which is fine, until/unless the Japanese version says that it's something else later on). Grassy Terrain was said, which you've noted. Is it an error? We don't know. But for now, it is not an error unless they contradict themselves and call it Grassy Surge later on. At the end of the day, the is no confusion. Assuming moves is something you shouldn't be doing. If it is said or revealed in close caption, then that's final.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:08, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
:::Ok. I wanted to make sure if the move used was either the Terrain Move or the Surge Ability. Thank you for clearing it up. --[[User:PKMNAdventurer|PKMNAdventurer]] ([[User talk:PKMNAdventurer|talk]]) 20:48, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

== Requests ==

If you would be so kind, could you please hear me out and consider doing a couple things I can't do (at least without permission, in some cases):
* Template {{template|Trainerentry}} has several handy redirects for Trainer classes that have changed their names over the years, such as "Cooltrainer" to "Ace Trainer" and "Rocket" to "Team Rocket Grunt". However, there are several Trainer class name changes that have either been missed or happened after the template was last edited, like "Rocket Grunt"{{tt|*|From Generation II}} to "Team Rocket Grunt", "Pokéfan" to "Poké Fan", "Swimmer ♂/♀" to "Swimmer", and "Clerk ♂/♀" to "Office Worker". There may be others than these, but anyway, my point is, could you please add the missing redirects to the template in the same way as the already existing redirects?
* Back in January, I suggested that the [[Pokémon League (Alola)/Title Defense]] page should be split into separate SM and USUM Title Defense pages. I've already got the USUM section ready right [[User:FinnishPokéFan92/Pokémon League (Alola)/Title Defense/Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon|here]] under my own userspace in case the idea gets approved. Do you think the page should be split?
* Ummm... I recall having a third request, but it doesn't come to my mind right now. I'll come back if I can remember it.
:--[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:59, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
::I've added the examples you've provided. If there are any more, do let me know.
::I've forwarded the article with the other staff members.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 08:16, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
:::Thank you for hearing me out. And indeed, I've discovered a few more redirect links that should be fixed: "Officer" and "Policeman" to "Police Officer", "Interviewer" to "Interviewers", "Socialite" to "Madame", and "School Kid" to "Schoolkid". Also, a couple of other things related to this subject:
::::In Generation II, the "Swimmer" class was classified as "Swimmer♂/♀", as in without a space, while in Generation VI, it's "Swimmer ♂/♀", as in ''with'' a space. The latter redirect is yet to be fixed.
::::In Generation II, the Trainer class that would later be known as "Schoolkid" was called "Schoolboy", hence why "Schoolboy" redirects to "Schoolkid" (or rather "School Kid", a redirect link). And then, in Generation VI, we were introduced to the separate "Schoolboy" Trainer class. As such, the Schoolboy links from Generation VI now lead to an incorrect article (similar to the "Medium" link from [[Saffron Gym]]'s page, actually, due to the Channeler class's renaming in Stadium, but that's a much more minor subject). I know this may be an impossible or at least a difficult problem to solve properly, but I decided to bring it up nevertheless, just in case.
:::The request I forgot about yesterday is actually a pretty old one: back in 2013, I made a suggestion to change the {{template|Gym Leaders of Unova}} to better separate the BW and B2W2 Gym Leaders from each other, but my edit (which you can see [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Template:Gym_Leaders_of_Unova&oldid=1865505 here]) was undone, because I hadn't talked about it beforehand. Since then, I've forgotten, remembered, and re-forgotten this multiple times, but now I've finally managed to make myself bring this long-forgotten topic up again. Could the template be edited in this or at least in a similar kind of way, or do you feel it's good enough as it is?
:::Also, I've also come up with a couple new things I'd want to propose since yesterday: could "Tide Song Hotel" and "Kantonian Gym" receive their own articles? I've already asked people's opinions about these ideas on [[Heahea City]] and [[Malie City]]'s talk pages, and at least the Tide Song Hotel split seems to have gotten some support already. Could you take these splits into consideration as well? Thank you.
:::--[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 10:04, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
::::Oh, and while I'm at it, I also found one Orre Trainer class redirect to fix: "Fun Old Lady" to "Matron". --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:35, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
:::::Ah, didn't see the subtle difference with the Swimmer trainer class. I've added the other TCs.
:::::I think the Unova Gym Leader Template is fine the way it is. Repeating the same Gym Leaders is pretty unnecessary, while I do get why, the template is about who are the Gym Leaders, separating by game isn't necessary. Plus, the three newer Gym Leaders being at the bottom of the first eight already implies that they were added later on.
:::::I've forwarded those suggestions to the other admins as well.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:11, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
::::::I actually just saw you making that edit. Thanks a lot.
::::::I understand. It's fine. I won't raise that topic again.
::::::Thanks once again. I'll be waiting for the results. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:36, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
:::::::Sorry to bother you again, but I've found a couple more links to fix, mainly from the Orre games:
::::::::Let's get the simpler ones out of the way first: "Researcher" and "Cipher R&D" to "Scientist".
::::::::Now, for something I'm not so sure of: the Orre-exclusive classes "Rogue" "Kaminko Aide", and "Robo Groudon" are Trainer classes used by only one person each, and they also only appear as redirect links on one page each. Hence why I'm not sure if these redirects should be removed or not. What do you think?
::::::::And finally, something a bit different, but still involving the same template. A big number of Fighting-type Trainers in FireRed and LeafGreen have their Pokémon holding Black Belts. However, the template links the "Black Belt" held item to "Type-enhancing item#Black Belt". This was understandable before, but now "Black Belt (item)" has its own article. Could you change the link to go to the item's own page now?
:::::::Thank you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:59, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
::::::::Done. As for the three single trainer trainer classes, I think they're fine, due to the way the template works (the second parameter is under a TC template, so their has to be a [name] (Trainer class) link.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 03:29, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::Thank you once again. However, when I looked at your edits, I also happened to notice that, similar to the Black Belt link you fixed, the held item link for "Metronome" leads to "In-battle effect item#Metronome". I can understand that you didn't notice that during your edit, so I'm not blaming you of anything, but could you be so kind and fix that one, too? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:25, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
::::::::::Whoopsie! Every time I think I'm done with this issue, I notice something new. The redirect link of "Poké'''F'''an" to "Poké Fan" has been fixed, but it's formatted as "Poké'''f'''an" on every pre-Generation VI page (as well as on the "Poké Fan (Trainer class)" article), and ''that'' redirect link still remains to be fixed. Could you do this one more thing? I'm sorry if you feel bothered by this. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:40, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::::(deep sigh) One. More. Once again I've noticed something. In Generation II, some Poké Fans had their Pokémon holding Berries, as in "Berry (item)", but link just goes to "Berry". Could that be fixed? PS. I also have other stuff to talk about with you, but I'll probably start a new section for that purpose later. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:04, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

== Force preview question ==

I've heard about the force preview group, where you have to preview your edits before publishing them. And I thought it might help me slow down and evaluate if my edits are actually helpful, since I have a tendency to act impulsively. Is it possible to ask to be put in that group? I was just curious. [[User:Veralann|'''Incentive'''''' (a.k.a. Veralann)''']] 02:49, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

== PokeShay ==

I think it was a little harsh to block him for that. You could've just asked about it on his talk page. --[[User:Raltseye|Raltseye]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 16:03, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

== "Pokémon seen" lists for movie locations ==

I wasn't too sure who to ask about this, though I have noticed that some movie-based locations have got the "Pokémon seen" lists and others don't. What is the requirement for these types of pages?. E.g. The Lake of Life has an incomplete list whilst Forina and the Tree of Beginning do not have any list, instead the Pokémon are just listed in the description section.

Also who is the authority on uploading images to the archives? I have a few images in mind that are needed to complete other pages like the Pokémon mate page.

Thanks. [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 09:55, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
:Locations where Pokémon actually live there have the Pokémon list. Though I'm not too sure if it's needed, as most are just wild Pokémon. Maybe if they play a large role in the area, such as the titans in Tree of Beginning, then they can be listed. Otherwise, it's unnecessary. As for the archives, you have to create an account at the archives and wait to be autoconfirmed there (the requirements are the same as it is on the wiki).--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 02:43, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

::Thank you for the information. [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 09:36, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

== Unaccpetable username ==

[[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Special:Contributions/Son_of_a_gun]] {{unsigned|RubyLeafGreenCrystal}}
:No it's not.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 02:43, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

== Bulbapedia lagging ==

Not really sure if this is the appropriate place to ask, but is the site undergoing updates or something? Loading for this site is lagging for me. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 20:45, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

:Never mind. The issue seems to have resolved itself. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 21:48, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

== Could I have my userspace privileges back? ==

It's been like 6 years and I mostly just wanna delete it lmao --[[User:Pokelova|Pokelova]] ([[User talk:Pokelova|talk]]) 12:17, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
:Done.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 14:18, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

== Edgreen293 ==

{{user|Edgreen293}} is at it again ([https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Chopper&diff=prev&oldid=2803690] [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Janet&diff=prev&oldid=2803692] [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Damian&diff=prev&oldid=2803693]). [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 22:29, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
: I might also add {{user|Tygamer64}} since both GrammarFreak01 and I were discussing him on his talk page. Since he has made rather pointless edits and we were told to report these cases. '''Ice''' [[User talk:The IceCream|Cream]] 15:25, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

== RE: Episode links ==

The links I added are from a licensed Pokémon copyright holder, so there is no copyright issue here. They are all legal.--[[User:Magicknight94|Magicknight94]] ([[User talk:Magicknight94|talk]]) 09:31, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
:Did you read my reply?--[[User:Magicknight94|Magicknight94]] ([[User talk:Magicknight94|talk]]) 14:52, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
::You still can't link to full episodes or episode clips, regardless of whether it comes from an official source or not.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:35, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
:::Why not? If copyright is not the issue here, what is the problem? Can you explain? --[[User:Magicknight94|Magicknight94]] ([[User talk:Magicknight94|talk]]) 07:33, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
:::Hello?--[[User:Magicknight94|Magicknight94]] ([[User talk:Magicknight94|talk]]) 05:22, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
::::Be patient. Force Fire is probably busy. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 05:31, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
:::::The issue '''is''' copyright. We choose not to link to episodes available on streaming sites, regardless of it being from an official source or not, just to be on the safe side. Also, the link you provided was for the Vietnamese dub, which I don't think anyone visiting an ''English'' wiki would be interested in.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:14, 12 June 2018 (UTC)

== Pokemon 4ever working title? ==

https://www.serebii.net/archive/September-2000.shtml Scrolling down that page a bit shows a 7-frame promo for a project simply called ''Pokémon 2001'' and one of the frames shows a Celebi, no plans to currently add anything about it to the Pokémon 4ever page but I was wondering what your thoughts were on this. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 14:05, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
:Do you have another source for that other than Serebii? Serebii is not a credible source, as it's a fansite.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 13:10, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
::Nope, just randomly came across that and given how old the page was, got a little curious. Tried to reverse image search the frames but could not find anything at all. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 13:12, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
:::Not sure if I can post this video, but here's video proof. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Od-eFQhVRI [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 13:56, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
::::Oh wow, did not know there was still video footage, I just thought it was those seven screenshots. Wonder if this would be worth adding to the Pokémon 4ever section as trivia. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 14:01, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

== PardescanSlowbro ==

I'm having a really big problem with {{user|PardescanSlowbro}} right now. I once sent him [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2768197&oldid=2766807 this message] in response to his editing style, and [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2768426&oldid=2768197 he took it pretty personally] (even though I was also [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AGrammarFreak01&type=revision&diff=2768465&oldid=2766949 in the wrong here]). Since then, the user has made edits to a variety of articles, and I've commonly had to edit them to rectify errors that he made. For example, [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=EP045&type=revision&diff=2809520&oldid=2806418 he very recently edited] the plot summary of [[EP045]] and [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=EP045&diff=next&oldid=2809520 this] was what I did to improve it (note that I also did some unrelated changes at the same time).

[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2801230&oldid=2801220 I once tried] to inform him of some of the kinds of errors he kept making in his edits, like [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AGrammarFreak01&type=revision&diff=2768465&oldid=2766949 you suggested], but [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2801256&oldid=2801230 this] was his response. He also said [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2801220&oldid=2801168 this beforehand]. [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2801258&oldid=2801256 I tried] to be rational and explain myself this time, but the conversation did not move forward anymore, so I gave up trying to reason with him and just resorted to editing at his heels whenever I saw an error. He eventually [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2809534&oldid=2809278 got agitated] by this. [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2809538&oldid=2809534 I tried] asking for specifics about his complaints of me, but [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2809541&oldid=2809538 he claimed I already knew what I was doing] (I legitimately do not). After I [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2809547&oldid=2809541 responded a couple of times], he went on [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2809557&oldid=2809547 a tirade] against me.

If any, if not all of his grievances towards me are legitimate, then I do apologize immensely. But I sincerely believe I've been trying to be helpful and he just rebuffs it. Either way, could you please step in? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 07:39, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

:He also had [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2809565&oldid=2809561 this] to say recently. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 07:44, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

::{{user|Tiddlywinks}} has [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:PardescanSlowbro&diff=0&oldid=2809568 pitched in]. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 19:25, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

== Harassment Procedure ==

Dear ForceFire,

I have felt personally vindicated and harassed by the user GrammarFreak01 on a continuous basis. I have pleaded to be left alone by the user and made them clearly aware of my feelings on their conduct towards myself. I was never under the assumption that any of my edits were to be untouched, though found the user in question deliberately followed and made, in some cases minor and pointless changes to over 40 pages (Episode 1 to 46 and some associated anime pages) directly after I did over recent days. The pages in question, at least the plot sections required some detail corrections but until my additions had not been looked at for several years. I had earlier requested significant action be taken against the user on Tiddlywinks page after an earlier spate of unexplained deletions to additions which were quickly reinstated by Tiddlywinks. Nothing came of this request on Tiddlywinks page, and the behaviour has persisted and worsened into vitriol that centres on GrammarFreak01's belief I referred to them as racist, though nothing of the sorts has occurred. I can no longer handle the barrage of blatancy and continuous harassment written on my discussion page by GrammarFreak01, and wish for those actions to end. At all times I have maintained my distance, and have thanked the user for their efforts when they have worked in collaboration with myself. Though their commentary and vicious attacks on my supposed sensitivities and linguistics must end. I have let things slide, despite my discontent, as to avoid further escalation. The user has been told to maintain their distance and respect previously written advices to improve their conduct, though such warnings remain unheeded and their pattern of behaviour towards me continues to intensify. I am completely naïve when it comes to Bulbapedia's bullying procedures, though require strong action be taken to ensure the harassment, belittlement and bullying that I have been exposed to by user GrammarFreak01 does not ever repeat.

I look forward to your reply, though will maintain my reserve and distance nonetheless,
[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 12:04, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

: Seeing as I have been the only one to receive any commentary it is best I be moved on. My claims have been outright ignored and also denied, despite the sheer amount of evidence to say otherwise. At the very least the user in question should have been told to remain at a distance, though has immediately gone on the attack again; though of course I am making everything up and overreacting as you pointed out. As such, please delete my account, this forum is no longer suitable to myself, my temperament or my skills. Thanks.[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 13:44, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

== Move trivia ==

How do I know if trivia about moves is notable? The stuff I add sometimes gets undone even if it's unique to that move. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 17:54, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
:Depends on what the trivia is.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:34, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
::I guess a recent example would be my attempt to add a trivium to thunder wave. It said that thunder wave is currently the only status move whose effectiveness depends on the type chart, so that ground Pokemon were immune because it was electric type and not because it was programmed separately. I thought it was unique and notable, but it was taken down. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 17:57, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

== Erica124 yet again ==

{{user|Erica124}} has once again shown [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Walking_Pok%C3%A9mon&type=revision&diff=2810509&oldid=2808316 her inability] to use her force preview, despite [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AErica124&type=revision&diff=2808504&oldid=2771952 my earlier warning]. Maybe it's time to let her go? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 04:24, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
:Perma-blocking her is for the staff to decide, not you. You also need to calm down when approaching "problem" users, yes their continuous wrongdoings can be frustrating, by try to keep a level head when dealing with them. As for blocking, it's not excessive. Can't do much if it's a once in a while thing.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:34, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
::Oh, I thought you were part of staff? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 06:56, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
:::Also, just so you know, it's not a once-in-a-while thing. Erica124 made [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Walking_Pok%C3%A9mon&type=revision&diff=2756991&oldid=2756735 the same exact error] on the same article before, and [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AErica124&type=revision&diff=2808504&oldid=2771952 I did warn her about it once]. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 06:59, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
::::I am. A perma block is something that needs to be discussed with other staff members first, not just immediately executed, unless the user we're dealing with is a vandal.
::::Yes, but her recent spate of unpreviewed edits aren't happening as frequently as it did back in March. She's not editing daily. She only didn't use the preview button on one article today. The last one before today was June 15th, four days ago. And the one before that was last month. Compare it to March where it was almost daily. --[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 07:25, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
:::::Oh, okay. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 07:51, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

== Reply ==

Anything to say on my page? [[User:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|RubyLeafGreenCrystal]] ([[User talk:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|talk]]) 06:39, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

== Quick query==
This is present in the trivia section on the Slowbro page:

*Slowbro's Pokédex entries state that if the Shellder is removed, it will revert to its Slowpoke form.
**This is the only mentioning of a Pokémon possibly devolving anywhere in the Pokémon games, aside from a card in the game versions of the TCG.

The first part is fine, the second point is incorrect as Exeggutor can also revert. Should the second point be deleted entirely as it both untrue and not unique or altered to include a connection with Exeggutor

e.g Slowbro and Exeggutor are the only recorded cases of Pokémon capable of devolution [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 12:43, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
:The second point may be removed as it is not unique to one Pokémon.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 13:19, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

:: No worries, thank you.[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 13:40, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

== Poké Problem characters list ==

OK, so my recent edit of [[SM080]] was taken down by you on the basis that, since the Pokémon I put on the appearance list appeared exclusively in the episode's Poké Problem, it doesn't deserve a mention (since Poké Problems are part of the episode apparently). I've also noticed that some edits on [[SM079]] also got erased on the same reason. Yet previous episodes' character lists feature characters that only appeared in the episodes' Poké Problem segments (for example Brock & Misty's siblings in [[SM042]]'s case and Harper and Sarah for [[SM071]]). As such, I have to wonder why its sometimes okay for characters and Pokémon that appeared exclusively in the Poké Problem of an episode to be mentioned on the character lists of said episode, but other times it's not OK? [[User:Pulsaro23|Pulsaro23]] ([[User talk:Pulsaro23|talk]]) 17:03, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
:Then those need to removed from their episodes and any other episodes that list PokéProblem appearances needs to be fixed. PokéProblem is a segment similar to Who's That Pokémon, it is not part of the actual episode.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 13:57, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
::While I'll agree that the Poké Problem and Who's that Pokémon segments share a similarity (the fact that they are tied to a situation/Pokémon from the episode), they are also very different. By that I mean that, while the WtP segment doesn't have any impact on the overall story of the episode, the bonus scenes shown after the Poké Problem segments expand upon the story of the episode (personally, I'd say they're very similar to the after-credits scenes form the Marvel & DC movies). For example, the Poké Problem segments for SM022 and SM057 feature scenes that resolve the episodes' ending cliffhangers, while others, like the ones for SM042 and SM030, flesh out more of the characters' personality and traits, as well as showing their relationships with other characters. As such, I'd say that, while Poké Problem segments are really part of the main episode, they still have some degree of importance, since the scenes shown at the end of those segments expand upon the main theme/story/characters of the episode (and as such, they should, as you say, "count"). Plus, in the case of the XY series, characters that appeared exclusively in its Poké TV segments were mentioned on the appearance list for its episodes (e.g. XY096, XY099, XY106 etc.). So why should the Poké TV segments receive special treatment and the Poké Problem ones not? [[User:Pulsaro23|Pulsaro23]] ([[User talk:Pulsaro23|talk]]) 14:37, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

== Usage of the word "native" ==

{{user|PardescanSlowbro}} is [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Raichu_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29&type=revision&diff=2813914&oldid=2812285 concerned] about using the word "native" to describe the residents of [[Alola]] in the {{p|Raichu}} article, due to its connection to indigenous peoples who have been plagued with stereotypes and also its purported implicit nature as a development discourse, thus making it potentially offensive to some people. I did not see anything wrong with the word's usage, however, since it can alternatively be used as a synonym for "resident" or "citizen", as I [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2813930&oldid=2813886 pointed out to him]. He's still concerned and has [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:PardescanSlowbro&diff=next&oldid=2813930 pointed out] that official literature no longer uses the word, seemingly making it taboo, even though I have still heard it being used in the context I just described.

Do you think it is appropriate to use "native" in any shape or form here? I'm not aware of any other articles here that use the word. I do acknowledge the potential issue of indigenous peoples being offended, but I don't think anyone will be offended given the word's context in the Raichu article. What do you think? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 06:12, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
:It's fine to use the word "native". No need to think that someone will get offended by the word.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 09:44, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

:: You failed to acknowledge my concerns, and reverted my re-edit after GrammarFreak01 again deleted it. The latest addition aided the sentence in making it more concise, and as stated, the phrase 'the natives' is not used by the Pokémon Company in any of it literature, and probably for good measure. The term 'native' to mean local makes sense though should only be applied to describe an area or plant such as on the Vileplume page under the biology section. I would like another opinion as you have allowed a good edit to be reverted[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 05:52, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
:::It's very clear you changed the sentence because of your dislike of the word "native", whether it was a good change or not. You made the change because there was a word you didn't like. That's why it got reverted. There's is nothing wrong with using the word. The Pokémon Company not using it doesn't mean we can't use the word. You're thinking too much into the negative connotation of the word.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:00, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
:::: Negative connotations is your justification? I saw the term and looked at it as an opportunity to make a positive change in line with one of Bulbapedia's major aims, inclusivity. Allowing the phrase 'the natives' is an issue as it is loaded language and may be used on other pages in much the same way. But correcting the term to something more global and neutral has become the issue, leaving aside the issues associated with using this turn of phrase in the first place, even though the original editor of course had no intention of being racist or degrading to particular demographics. By actually allowing this term to pass through with your acceptance, you are also condoning the use of this term in much the same way across potentially other articles and it may enter people's own thoughts on people of different backgrounds. Inclusivity was my motivation because of the so-called negative and very true reality for many individuals on this planet, that terms like this are harmful. I cannot imagine the editor's guide has any detail on this specific turn of phrase, though it would diffidently be designed to uphold inclusivity of all peoples.[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 06:23, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
:::::You just admitted that the editor that added the word had no intention of being racist or degrading, if you already think that then it shouldn't be an issue. It's not offensive unless someone makes it offensive. The sentence is in no way written in an offensive manner, and no one will take it as an insult. You're looking to much into it.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:57, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
::::::I'm afraid you are wrong when it comes to the development discourse, it is an issue incidental or not. I am going to contact someone higher up to alert them to my concerns about the phrase, not word, "the natives", as you have plainly ignored the fact that such terminology is typically avoided due to taboo and discrimination surrounding it. Thanks [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 07:06, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
:::::::When used correctly, "native" can also be "global and neutral". The only way it can be considered "loaded language" is if the person writing it in question ''makes'' it loaded language. I understand the history behind the word, and I also understand that the current political climate makes usage of certain words even more dangerous, but if the word has alternate meanings that are more acceptable, then I don't see why we must avoid using it, no matter how incidental the racism. If you have a problem with it, take it up with Merriam-Webster, not the admins here. If someone else does have a problem with it, we'll talk it out, see where it goes. But in the meantime, we can't simply just avoid using a certain word out of concern of potentially offending someone, even if the word in question is used in an appropriate, non-offensive context. I can't think of anyone else here who would think this word, or similarly loaded language of any kind, should be omitted in its entirety even though it's being used in a non-offensive context. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 07:11, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
::::::::Exactly. The word is not used in a derogatory manner, it is completely fine. It's all about context, and in this case, the context is not offensive. The only person that has a problem with it is you, Pardescan. And we won't change it just because one person thinks it may be offensive. I'll repeat this again, because you seem to be ignoring it, '''you are looking too much into the negative aspects of the word'''.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 07:32, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::It looks like [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AAbcboy&type=revision&diff=2814552&oldid=2806683 he's made good on his promise]. I've already pitched my counterargument. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 07:43, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

== Template mainspace request ==

For the new Light trio page, there would need to be six Pokémon in the stats section, but there is no such template. I made a [[User:Celadonkey/Template:Groupstats/6|template]] for it and I wanted to know if I could mainspace it to add to the Light trio page. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 14:05, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

== Integration of Spaceworld Iterations of Existing Pokémon ==

I felt I would ask this here, since you're the one who linked the in-progress pages for the Pokémon Gold/Silver Spaceworld demo and you seem to know what the plans for them are, and the Gold and Silver Beta discussion page is rather cluttered and doesn't seem like a good place to catch the attention of anybody in particular.

There are a number of Pokémon added for the demo that did end up being released as official Pokémon, such as the Mareep, and Phanpy lines, Crobat, Espeon, Umbreon, Miltank, and others, who are present in the Spaceworld demo build, sometimes with different names and subtly-different designs. Additionally, there are Pokémon such as Haneko, Poponeko, and Wataneko, Gift, Blissey, Scissors, Leafeon, etc. that are very obviously earlier drafts of Pokémon that would appear in Generation II or later.

Are these Pokémon going to be integrated into the site differently compared to, say, Pokémon like Honoguma, Kurusu, Norowara, Wolfman, or Twinz, that were very clearly cut entirely and have yet to appear in any official, publicly-released Pokémon game?

As an aside, how are name labels going to be handled for Pokémon such as Kingdra, Girafarig, and Bellossom, whose final names are already present and in use in the demo? It seems to me that the sensible thing to do would be to label them with their final English names, since the names they have do have official English-language counterparts, and it would be clearer and easier to read for readers who might be unfamiliar with with the Japanese names of those Pokémon.
[[User:Topaz Light|Topaz Light]] ([[User talk:Topaz Light|talk]]) 14:38, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
:Right now, the focus should be filling out the userpages with information before all that. The staff will figure out how the handle them in the mean time.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:58, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

== A Small Request ==

Hi. A while ago I had asked to be put in the forcepreview group for editing. If possible, I think I'm ready to edit without needing to look at all my edits beforehand. If you could please take me out of forcepreview, and abuse as well, I would really appreciate it. Thank you. [[User:Veralann|'''Incentive'''''' (a.k.a. Veralann)''']] 19:57, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
:I'll take you out of force preview, but not out of abuse. You have not made nearly enough mainspace edits to warrant be placed out of abuse. Being away for a month means absolutely nothing. If you want out of abuse, prove that you will contribute more to the mainspace by making a whole lot of edits there.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:04, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

== Random question ==

On the Pokemon articles, why do the Pokedex entry, location, and sprite tables always put Emerald before FireRed and LeafGreen even though Emerald was released after? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 18:42, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
:Probably to group the hoenn games together.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:18, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
::Thanks for answering, I guess. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 06:03, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

== Bulbapedia lagging again ==

It seems this site is becoming very laggy for me. Is there an issue with the site? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 06:28, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
:Site's running smoothly for me. Probably something on your end.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:37, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
::Well, it seems the site's running smoothly for me now. It might've had something to do with the connection. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 06:42, 16 July 2018 (UTC)

== List of locations by name ==

I personally think the page should stop excluding named routes. Even if we somehow made the definition clear, I still don't want people checking both that page and "list of routes" to see if either of them has the location they want. I also don't see a good reason for the exclusion. I think excluding cities and numbered routes is okay because people can tell if somewhere is a city or numbered route just by looking at the name. Even then, I'm leaning toward including cities because some places (like Two Island) don't end in "City" or "Town" and aren't obviously cities. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 05:40, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

== Staff imitating user ==

{{u|Форс файре}} is a cyrillisation of your name. --[[User:Raltseye|Raltseye]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 18:47, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

== Nintenchris5963 ==

The user {{user|Nintenchris5963}} added something to the [[Talk:Mt. Silver]] which I'm pretty sure isn't allowed on talk pages. Should the comment he made be removed or should it stay? (I'm only asking since it's normally not allowed to remove Talk Page comments). '''Ice''' [[User talk:The IceCream|Cream]] 10:46, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
:You can remove comments that breach the talk page policy.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 11:53, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

== "Faint" versus "Get knocked out" ==

"Faint" is the more technical term, so I try to change "knocked out" to "faint" wherever I can. Also, a few days ago, I tried to look for information about fainting by doing ctrl+f "faint" and couldn't find anything because the article said "knocked out" instead, so what I wanted took me a few minutes longer to find. I eventually made that edit in attempt to save time for anyone who might attempt the same thing in the future. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 15:03, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
:That sounds like a problem specifically for you. We are not going to cater the site whenever you face a problem. "Knocked out" carries the same meaning as "fainted", like what else could it possibly mean.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 15:21, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
::The reasons why "fainted" is better than "knocked out", however insignificant, exist. Is there a reason why "knocked out" is better than "fainted"? And aren't we supposed to use technical terms over "fanmade terms" whenever possible? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 23:25, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
:::Neither is better, but both '''mean the same thing in spirit''' (unable to battle). It's not a necessary change. And "knocked out" is not "fan made" it's just a word used to substitute "fainted". Using a word that is not official doesn't make the word "fan made", that's just being ridiculous. Don't change things because you couldn't find something, just because you couldn't find something doesn't mean everyone else will face the same problem.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 02:57, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
::::If neither is better, why do you care which one the article says? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 17:28, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
:::::Because it's an '''unnecessary change'''. Just because we use another word other than fainted, doesn't make that word fan-made. Like in a plot synopsis, we're not going to use the term "fainted" every time a Pokémon faints, we're going to use other terms like "knocked out" from time to time. Y'know, have a bit of variety in our articles.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:12, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
::::::That section was a game mechanic, not a plot synopsis. Aren't they different? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 17:45, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
:::::::That's not the point. The point is, '''it's an unnecessary change'''. Stop reading what you want to read. It doesn't matter if it's not using the word "faint". Using another word other than "faint" doesn't make the article more inaccurate. It's just a word. You're thinking too much into it. No one will get confused by the term "knocked out". They'll know what it means.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:09, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
:::::I think what Force Fire tries to tell you isn't "don't change specifically this to specifically that", it's rather "don't change '''anything''' if the change doesn't clearly improve the article". The larger the number of edits, the more work there is for the servers; we should only change anything if it's justified. That's why he cares which one of the equally good terms stays — because changing it will unnecessarily overload servers. First come, first served in this case. [[User:Kikugi|Kikugi]] ([[User talk:Kikugi|talk]]) 15:37, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

== Mallow Tsareena Sweet Scent ==

Hi. So in SM082 Mallow's Tsareena does something that some would describe as Sweet Scent, as it has a similar appearance and effect to how the move was used in its pre-evolved forms. PlayerKing95 has removed it because we don't have enough proof, despite the evidence pointing towards it. I, as well as another user, has reached out to him to discuss it. It has been more than a week now and he has ignored multiple messages to resolve this issue, and it is making me think that he will continue to ignore messages because it means the page can't be changed. Could I get some help with this? Thank you. --[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 14:48, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
:I have given him a message. I currently have no strong opinions on this matter, generally we can say it's Sweet Scent because the animation is unlikely to change upon evolution. But I'm interested in what Playerking has to say.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 15:11, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
::Thank you, looks like he finally responded to it. Based on his answer is it safe to put Sweet Scent back on, as there doesn't seem to be an argument against it.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 16:14, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
:::Hello again. It's been a couple weeks and I was wondering what the status of Sweet Scent is. Thanks.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 13:59, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

== Random question ==

When I type just about anything in the search bar, the autocomplete suggestions always appear in the same order. For example, typing only "user:" always displays "User:Tiddlywinks", "User:Force Fire", "User:Raltseye", "User:SnorlaxMonster", etc. in that order. Do you have any idea what determines that order? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 04:12, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
:Pretty sure the ordering is just random.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:18, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
::If it was completely random, would it still put more active users closer to the top? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 04:35, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
:::It's probably fixed, random but fixed. The listing probably wouldn't change regardless of how active a user is.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:51, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
::::It could be fixed by the most visisted user pages. --[[User:Raltseye|Raltseye]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 11:00, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

== Reason ==

Could you give a summary rather than only reverting a contribution without reason, that's irritating. {{unsigned|KyleRGiggs}}

:He's reverting you because this is the mandatory writing style for a recurring character in the anime and you're pointlessly changing it at [[Professor Burnet]]. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 04:45, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
::Exactly. Your reasoning for removing it didn't even make sense, and if you actually read other anime character articles, other recurring characters also use the term "reappears".--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:51, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
:::So DID both of you read the article CAREFULLY why "Since their marriage, Burnet has moved in with Kukui and Ash and '''has made regular appearances''' in the Sun & Moon series ever since." is present in the sentence? So why don't Professor Kukui being "reappear" for every episode? Regular appearancing should not be recurring? I don't get the sense. {{unsigned|KyleRGiggs}}
::::Just because someone makes regular appearances, doesn't mean we can't use the word "reappear". Besides, the two don't appear that regularly, especially for Burnet who only appeared once in between SM071-80 (not counting the PokeProblem segment) and Kukui only physically appears four times in that 10 episode span. And sign your comments.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:18, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
:::::I did read that sentence. To be honest, that sentence needs to be reworded. As Force Fire said, it's not as regular as that sentence implies. If she did appear "regularly", then she'd actually be a main character, and then the need to list every episode she appears in is diminished. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 05:46, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

== Random stuff ==

Since I last contacted you, I've come up with a few new things to ask every now and then, but they keep slipping my mind when I don't talk about them. Hence why I've decided to dedicate this section of the talk page for subjects that I come up with and need admin help for, which means that I may sometimes come back here when I come up with something new. But anyway, let's get started with the most recent subject I've come up with: the [[Looker]] Bureau post-game story from {{pkmn|X and Y}}. Since the [[Delta Episode]] and [[Episode RR]] have their own pages, shouldn't the Looker Bureau storyline also get its own article? I think it would deserve it. 
Oh, and speaking of new articles: has my suggestion of splitting the Kantonian Gym and Tide Song Hotel into their own location articles been moving forward? Has it received enough approval to actually be done some day? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 10:17, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
:I did bring them (Kantonian Gym and Tide Song Hotel) up with the other staff members, didn't really come to a solid conclusion. For me, they both appear to have very little information text wise (from what is already there), and what we don't want are articles that are just one paragraph and a whole bunch of templates. I think it'd be good to create them in your userspace to see how the page will look.
:The Looker saga could be made into it's own page. Make on in your userpage so the staff can decide if it's needed.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:22, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
::I've created the page for the Kantonian Gym [[User:FinnishPokéFan92/Kantonian Gym|here]], and I also intend to start making the Tide Song Hotel and Looker Bureau pages as soon as I find the time for it. In the meantime, though, there's a couple of other things I would like to bring up.
::Firstly, [[Talk:Serena (game)#Father? (revived)|this talk]] regarding the X and Y rival's father. Evidence heavily suggests that Calem/Serena's father is a Veteran Trainer who can be found in [[Snowbelle City]], but for the last bit of confirmation, we need someone who can read Japanese. Could you ask someone to help with that?
::And secondly... Secondly... Well, this is ''exactly'' why I should come here to vent ideas out of my head more often. I've forgotten my second point. Embarrassing, I know, but I'll come back to it once I remember it.
::--[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 07:22, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
::Ah, I remember now! Some time ago, I created a category for {{cat|Legendary and Mythical Pokémon locations}}, my intention being to have it attached to the {{template|legendarylocations}} template. However, said template is protected, so I'd need help from a user like you to put it there. Could you do it? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:59, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
:::I've brought the Kantonian Gym page to the others. There was talks of the Serena's father issue a while back, I think one of the staff members found in game text supporting it, though I asked again to be sure. Navigation templates only need the Navigation template category, the category you provided would go on the actual location pages.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 09:59, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
::::Thanks, looking forward to the results.
::::Yes, it's been proven that the gender pronoun used by the supposed father changes depending on the player character's gender, but we now also have links to two Japanese videos to see if this occurs in the Japanese version too, which could count as the final piece of evidence, and is why we need someone who can understand Japanese to confirm it.
::::I mean like this: <nowiki><includeonly>[[Category:Legendary and Mythical Pokémon locations]]</includeonly></nowiki> When a category is attached to a template like this, it will only apply to the pages where said template is used at, not the template itself. That's what I would like you to do, if possible.
::::--[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 10:56, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
:::::I've now finished the Tide Song Hotel page as well. You can find it [[User:FinnishPokéFan92/Tide Song Hotel|here]]. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:20, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
::::::Excuse the delay. The Looker bureau post game story can be made, with the title "Looker events" as that is what it's called in-game, according to another staff member. Haven't gotten much feedback regarding the other stuff that you brought up. I'll keep you updated regarding those.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 07:14, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
:::::::Thanks for the update. Will do. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:45, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
::::::::I haven't started working on the Looker evernts yet, but I haven't forgotten about them. In the meantime, though, there's an issue that has been bugging me for years now, which nobody has appparently done anything to fix yet. I'm talking about Generation VI models. Not only are we still missing most VS models from at least one set of the Generation VI core series games, we are also still missing a couple VS models: [[Archie]] and [[Zinnia]] are missing their VS models altogether (they've been using temporary ones for years now), and {{an|Brendan}} and {{an|May}} are missing their VS models with a [[Key Stone|Mega Bracelet]]. I've also wondered if the difference between the {{tc|Team Flare Grunt}}s who are striking a pose and those who aren't would warrant alternate VS models for them, but that's a lesser priority in my books.
::::::::And, as for a more recent case of the same issue, we're still missing several US/UM VS models as well, including the {{tc|Master & Apprentice}} and {{tc|Sparring Partners}} VS models and [[Gladion]]'s VS model with a Z-Power Ring. Could you bring this up with people who could possibly fix these issues? I've tried to do it myself a couple times over the years, but it has never lead to anything. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 09:02, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
::::::::Oh, almost forgot! [[Giovanni]]'s first VS model is a bit dark, and [[Professor Kukui]] is also missing his model with the Z-Power Ring. PS. Has the Serena/Calem father topic been solved? Can it be considered confirmed? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 11:18, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::The VS sprites are something that is still ongoing, it just gets lower and lower on the priority list whenever something new comes around. It's something that will be done, "when" I can't really say for sure. Users are free to upload the models themselves, granted they get it from somewhere that isn't a fan site.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 11:54, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
::::::::::Figures. I'm just a guy who hates incompleteness, so these lingering cases of incompleteness tend to bug me a lot. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:17, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::::For a while now already, I've been planning a massive edit project, where I go over '''every single''' page with a Stadium and Stadium 2 party template, and change the number of Poké Balls in the template(s) to 3 instead of 6 (since only three of the six Pokémon are always used per battle), as well as remove the word "Pokémon" from the game name, as it isn't that way in any other game party templates either. But that's why I've come here for you this time: in preparation for this project, could you edit {{template|Party/Single}} to include codes for Stadium and Stadium 2 in the game name section? And while we're on the topic of this template, do the Battle Chatelaines alone warrant a combined code for X, Y, OR, and AS, and the few version-exclusive Battle Tree Trainers from Generation VII codes for S/US and M/UM, respectively? PS. I hope you understood that last part. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:51, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::::Thanks. I saw you just doing this, and I'm honestly really grateful for it, but in case you didn't know, when we refer to "Pokémon Stadium", the link should go to "[[Pokémon Stadium (English)]]", instead of just "[[Pokémon Stadium]]". --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 07:37, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::::Never mind. You noticed that yourself. Sorry. XP --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 07:38, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

{{indent}}Added Stadium/2 to the template. As for changing the Poké Ball number, I'm iffy about it. I get what you're saying, but they still have six possible Pokémon. As for the last request, I assume you mean for the party template?, if so, they're already coded in.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 07:40, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
:Yeah. Personally, I'm inclined to keep the six Poké Balls too, but, as you can see {{DL|Professor Kukui|Battle Royal Dome|here}}, for example, some user(s) apparently think that the number of shown Poké Balls should be equal to the maximum number of Pokémon that can be used from said selection of Pokémon at a time. Hence why most [[Pokémon World Tournament|PWT]] teams have six Balls, since all six Pokémon are used if the [[Triple Battle]] format is in used. Then there's also the case where the pool of possible Pokémon is greater than six, but I can understand that one.
:As for the codes, I meant as in a code of "XYORAS" turning out as "X, Y, Omega Ruby, and Alpha Sapphire", and codes "SUS" and "MUM" turning out as "Sun and Ultra Sun" and "Moon and Ultra Moon", respectively. However, as I said, the former would only apply to the four {{tc|Battle Chatelaine}}s, while the latter ones would only apply for the few [[Battle Tree]] Special Trainers who are version-exclusive, so I wondered if that's a good enough reason for those codes to be created. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 09:26, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
::For the Kukui article, I think the line "Master Rank challenge of the Battle Royal, using three of the following Pokémon" will suffice. If they're confused, then they are just flat out not reading the article. As for the stadium articles, I think a similar line could work.
::Ah I see, I've added the code for those.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 09:45, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
:::Thanks a ton! Now there's nothing stopping me from starting my grand edit project! And it's going to be even easier I expected, thanks to you!
:::Nice work... Except that you made a small typo. You accidentally wrote "SUM" instead of "MUM" for "Moon and Ultra Moon". --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 11:18, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
::::Another small typo found. The link for Stadium 2 leads just to "Pokémon Stadium". You forgot the "2" from the end. Whoops...
::::Also, another unrelated thing: in Pokémon Colosseum, the player character starts the game off with a number of healing items in their Bag. Does this qualify as a method of acquiring these items for their respective articles? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:52, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
:::::Fixed. As for the items, I'd say those count.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 07:02, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
::::::I think we need a link template to make the Alola game links easier to create, as writing "<nowiki>[[Pokémon Sun and Moon|Pokémon Sun, Moon]], [[Pokémon Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon|Ultra Sun, and Ultra Moon]]</nowiki>" for a link version of "Pokémon Sun, Moon, Ultra Sun, and Ultra Moon" again and again can get tiresome, plus it eats up a lot of unnecessary space. I'd do it myself, but I'm not sure how, so I've come to ask for your help again. Can you do it, or at least ask someone else to do it? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 09:30, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
:::::::Took a while to remember what the template was, but [[Template:Game4]] exists, though I edited it to add USUM. Typing the code <nowiki>{{game4|Sun|Moon|Sun|Moon}}</nowiki> should give you this: {{game4|Sun|Moon|Sun|Moon}}.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 11:54, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
::::::::Thank you! Also, another issue regarding link templates: when adding a link to a Pokémon's alternate form, it's usually written as <nowiki>{{DL|List of Pokémon with form differences|<Pokémon>|<Form name>}}</nowiki>, which, like the previous thing you fixed, is a bit lengthy, especially if done repeatedly. So I've been thinking about the creation of a link template to fix the issue, going something like this: <nowiki>{{form|<Pokémon>|<Form name>}}</nowiki>, which would lead to the correct section of [[List of Pokémon with form differences]], based on the contents of the second slot (the one with <Pokémon> in my example here). Do you think this could/should be made? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 13:58, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
::::::::Also, I just noticed: your edit on {{template|game4}} was a bit flawed. The "Sun and Moon" part of the link includes the word "Versions", even though it's not supposed to. I saw you fixed this issue regarding the "Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon" part of the link, but it seems you still missed something. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:04, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
::::::::Did you miss my above messages? Or have you just been too busy to answer yet? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:55, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::I purposely left the "versions" in the first link as I wasn't confident whether adding a switch would mess the template up and mess up other pages that are using the template, so I didn't risk it. I'll bring up to idea for a "form template" to the other staff members, though I think it's a fine idea.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:45, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::::1) Oh. I see. Well, I've already used the template on a couple pages, so now what? 2) Thank you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 13:32, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
::::::::::::Just leave the ones you've added. I'll tweak the template in a userspace at some point. As for the form template, [[User:Abcboy/Form|Abcboy]] has already made a template in his userpage, that'll be under consideration.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 13:03, 27 September 2018 (UTC)
{{indent}}Thank you. Also, whoa. It appears that this template idea wasn't as new as I thought. Let's hope it'll finally get mainspaced some day. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 14:04, 27 September 2018 (UTC)
:Thanks for helping me out with {{user|EternalDragonX}}. He also left a reply to your response already, just in case you haven't noticed yet. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:45, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
::He still doesn't believe either of us. Could you do something about it? And, if possible, could you continue the talk with him on his page instead of mine? PS. His refusal to use big capital letters in talk pages irks me. I know there's technically nothing wrong with it, but if you see fit to notify him about it too, then please do. If you don't, I won't hold it against you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:18, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
:::A few days ago, he started arguing with me about [[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92#viridian gym|another subject (s)]]. Please help me. I'm seriously growing tired of this. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:39, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
::::I'll leave a message on their talk page.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 03:01, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
:::::Thank you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:55, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

== Undoing changes ==

Please, don't revert changes as I add information that a [[Focus Sash]] can be stolen from [[Iris]]' {{p|Haxorus}} during all the battles. I don't want to cause an edit war, but I placed the information in the correct row ({{gameabbrev5|B2W2}}). [[User:TheICTLiker4|TheICTLiker4]] ([[User talk:TheICTLiker4|talk]]) 06:56, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
:And as Finnish said, you don't permanently keep the item. It doesn't count.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 07:14, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

== Status ==

What does "status" mean when used to describe Bulbapedia users? Like, how do we know the difference between "hiatus" and "inactive"? How long of a break counts as a hiatus? What does "X" mean? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 01:31, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
:If someone is on "hiatus", that means they are away for some time but will return eventually, how long the hiatus is differs between staff members. "Inactive" is detailed {{bp|Inactive Staff|here}}. X denotes someone of high authority, they may not be very active but they are still very important staff members.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 11:54, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
::If someone says he/she/it is on hiatus and doesn't come back, then how long does it usually take for other people to change that person's status to "inactive"? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 18:18, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
:::That decision is up to the Editor in Chief.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:34, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
::::Okay thanks. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 00:07, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

== Possible inappropriate name ==

Someone under {{user|RAEVEisdumb}} was created after someone called {{user|RAEVE}} was just created. Should it be flagged? '''Ice''' [[User talk:The IceCream|Cream]] 19:43, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
:I've blocked the former but left the latter unblocked. I ''could'' block them both since they both share the same IP, but since RAEVE hasn't done anything yet, I'll leave them unblocked unless they become a problem.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:34, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

== PardescanSlowbro again ==

I have tried to offer [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2840364&oldid=2826236 constructive criticism] on PardescanSlowbro's spelling of "compliment" in [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Tyson_%28Hoenn%29&type=revision&diff=2840264&oldid=2834631 this edit], but once again, he responded with paranoia, a refusal to cooperate, and accusations of edit-stalking ([https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2840597&oldid=2840364] [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2840645&oldid=2840640] [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2840648&oldid=2840647] [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2840661&oldid=2840649]). In the last diff, he even had the gall to tell me I shouldn't be contacting anyone if that's how I'm going to talk to people. This is in spite of me [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2840647&oldid=2840645 admitting that my original message unintentionally did not come across as constructive and apologizing for that]. I cannot even talk about the most basic constructive criticism with this guy, and it is so frustrating. I was actually hoping I could have a more in-depth discussion about his writing style in regards to his recent edits, but given that he's always reacting like this in some form or fashion, I cannot muster the courage to talk to him, no matter what the subject is. I can't even properly talk to him about the minor stuff (silly, I know, but I can't even talk to him about the major stuff in the first place). I talk to other users the same way I'm talking to him, yet he's always the one who responds with hostility and vitriol. I'm really not trying to be malicious towards him or anything like that. Can you please comment on this? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 08:59, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

== Grammarfreak at it again ==
I know, you're very busy. But it seems that Grammarfreak are trying everything to post his/her claim are right. While everyone is wrong. Especially, when he illegally created it voice actress article without admin permission. Especially for trying to make it sounds he taken command of everything. If you can, could you please ban him/her. I tired of his aggression and persistent changing the sentences to be great. Thank you! [[User:Singaporean|Singaporean]] ([[User talk:Singaporean|talk]]) 02:57, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

:[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ASingaporean&type=revision&diff=2843736&oldid=2839035 I already told you], I didn't know you already had a userspace article for [[Sumire Morohoshi]] in the works, and I'm sorry about that! That aside, how is that "illegal"? I admitted it was a mistake caused by a lazy eye. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 03:18, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
:: You know, you create with one article after another without admin permission is already officially illegal. That is also included disrespectful to me after all the hard work, I have done and learns to make a better article. But it seems that, you had a history of pattern aggressive toward everybody. I wasn't surprised, your primary target now is me. It wasn't take every long in a next few day. You will ditch my all my userspace edited and try to create one to waste more page to fill in the empty to draw attention to everyone. Remind you again, this is not your playground of editing. [[User:Singaporean|Singaporean]] ([[User talk:Singaporean|talk]]) 03:28, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
:::A while back, I [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:Tiddlywinks#Creating_Japanese_voice_actor_articles asked] {{U|Tiddlywinks}} about the process of creating VA articles, and they directed me to [[Bulbapedia:Project VA]] without mentioning anything else. The main project page ''never'', ''EVER'' said anything about having to consult with the admins first before the creation of an individual article, and trust me, I read through that thing thoroughly. I've been at this since last month, and no one has given me any warnings or blocked me for creating so many VA articles during that time. This is in comparison to [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:GrammarFreak01/Archive_1#Creating_pages the warning I got] from Tiddlywinks hours after I created the [[Ash's Pikachu (M20)]] article (which was what motivated me to ask Tiddlywinks about the VA articles in the first place). Because of all that, I took it that my actions were already cleared by Tiddlywinks and I didn't even have to worry about asking the admins any further.

:::If it was supposed to be common sense for me to just alert the admins about the creation of any kind of article beforehand, then I do apologize for that. I was simply following everything that was laid out for me at [[Bulbapedia:Project VA]], with the misconception that Tiddlywinks was alright with everything simply because I contacted him only once before my article creation spree. And ''trust me'', I am now reviewing all of the other userspace articles you've got so I will know which VAs you are already working on. I'm so sorry if you felt cheated and that your hard work on the Morohoshi userspace article was wasted because of me. I swear, I was not aware of that userspace article, and that is not going to happen again, I promise. Especially now that you've got your own eye on me and my conduct. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 03:48, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
::::Regardless of your apologize to me or not. The action will be leave to [[User:Force Fire|Force Fire]] to dealt with. Even though of the risk for me being banned one more time again. I also satisfied. [[User:Singaporean|Singaporean]] ([[User talk:Singaporean|talk]]) 03:57, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
:::::I'm well aware that it's all up to Force Fire, given the severity of your complaints against me. I'm just trying to explain what you would call my more egregious actions. I at least have that right to do so, don't I? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 03:59, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

GrammarFreak already clarified that he didn't see your userpage, Singaporean. No need to overreact the way you did. He apologized, move on. Anyone can create a VA article, granted that it fits the notability criteria. Users can make it on the mainspace, '''only if''' they are capable of making it up to Bulbapedia standards upon making the article (to which I feel GrammarFreak did). And don't take that as an invitation to create VA article on the mainspace, Singaporean.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 07:18, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
:If you say so, then I will go ahead and create all my remaining work directly without the need of my userspace. Thanks. [[User:Singaporean|Singaporean]] ([[User talk:Singaporean|talk]]) 12:30, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
::No. I '''did not''' say you can make them in the mainspace. I literally said it in my response. The ones you made on your userspace still needs to be approved. And that is '''NOT''' how you move userpages to the mainspace.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:59, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
:::My apologized for my rush work. I didn't know about it. It is already almost a year and I didn't heard anything about you and the other approved my work to main article is just really frustrating. I do hope, you can give me an answer after a few days later. Thank you! [[User:Singaporean|Singaporean]] ([[User talk:Singaporean|talk]]) 13:05, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

== A strange user talk page ==

Hello and sorry if I'm bothering you, but I started to wonder, if such content as [[User talk:CarterLumpkins|this]] is OK to have on one's user talk page. This doesn't seem to aggressively promote some service, thought it does have a weblink. However, the topic is so NOT Pokémon... is this allowed? Is this evidence of a spammer? The user page was created three minutes before the talk page. Thank you! [[User:Kikugi|Kikugi]] ([[User talk:Kikugi|talk]]) 12:33, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
:Dealt with. Those are usually spambots.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:55, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

== Search bar problems ==

I just started having a problem with the search bar at the left of my screen. Every time I type something in, it won't show me a list of options, and every time I try to look up a list of pages containing a certain word(s), it won't show the lists. Instead, there's a message that reads, "An error has occurred while searching: We could not complete your search due to a temporary problem. Please try again later." I definitely know I'm not misspelling anything. What's going on with that? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 04:15, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
:Staff are aware of the issue and will try to get to the bottom of it asap.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:01, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
::Okay. That's good to know. Thanks for the heads-up. :) [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 05:06, 9 September 2018 (UTC)

== Internal error ==

Occasionally, since about last week, I've been getting these "Internal error" messages every time I try to submit an edit. I manage to get through it, but the frequency of these messages is starting to increase and I don't know what's going on. This is an example of the "Internal error" message I tend to get.

[8e5e0cf8d713375f0b2bb8b3] 2018-09-17 04:55:29: Fatal exception of type "Error"

Would you mind getting to the bottom of this? Thank you. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 04:57, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

:I'm still getting these messages with intensifying frequency. Here's the latest one:

[d52bf67181c53700b65c1f44] 2018-09-18 04:52:01: Fatal exception of type "Error"

:[[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 04:53, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
::Staff are aware of the issues and are looking into it.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:58, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
:::Thank you. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 19:19, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

::::I'm not sure what's being done to rectify this problem, nor do I presume to know, but for the record, I'm still having these problems. Here's the latest one I got:

[39026dee922ac834907c8f6e] 2018-09-20 07:23:46: Fatal exception of type "Error"

::::[[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 07:25, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

:::::My apologies, but this problem is still happening for me. Is the staff still investigating the issue? Or did they think they found a solution and implemented it already? Not that I doubt anyone's effectiveness in this matter. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 23:43, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
::::::Still haven't heard back on whether the problem was fixed or not, but I'll ping the higher ups about the issue.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:31, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
:::::::Okay, thanks. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 04:45, 13 October 2018 (UTC)

== Transfer-only moves and ability changes ==

Can we add a section to every Pokemon page that lists all the moves the Pokemon can know only if it originated in an earlier generation (move tutors, old TMs, etc.)? Cross-checking multiple pages for this information is annoying. Second, can we change the Pokemon infobox template to make pages like {{p|Pelipper}} clear that Pelipper can't have drizzle in Generations 3-6? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 18:06, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

== Zlblosser18 ==

A little heads-up, it looks like in spite of [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AZlblosser18&type=revision&diff=2853997&oldid=2853990 your advice], Zlblosser18 is still [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Charmander_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29&type=revision&diff=2855104&oldid=2855092 removing templates]. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 20:22, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

:It also seems like they're disregarding [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Zlblosser18&diff=prev&oldid=2855095 my advice] that titles like [[Pokémon Origins]] and [[Pokémon Generations]] are not traditionally italicized here. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 20:25, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
::Looks like TiddlyWinks has given them a final warning. --[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:33, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
:::Seems like it. I'll withdraw the complaint, then. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 05:02, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

== floor order cont ==

im confused, youre saying the ordering will be RBY>GSC>FRLG>HGSS regardless of floor order? so do you mean list all rby items before gsc or put them together if there are two items on the same floor? yes, i am using common sense by not putting an item deep in the dungeon first, but what if said deep item were to be on one of the earlier floors if not the earliest? then floor order dictates i would have to list said item before many of the other items i pass by before i even get to it. thats why floor order is bad. i know were not a walkthrough, but we have to list the items in one way or another, and like you said, it should make sense atleast right? I understand that it is not a "high" priority. but if i can list in an order that makes sense, why not? is floor order really a higher priority? again im trying to say that floor order is bad. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 12:58, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
:Yes, the game order will still be the same regardless of the template going by floor order. If an items exist in more than one set of games and is in the same location, the games get put together.
:Just so we're on the same page here, when you say "deep" you mean tucked in the furthest part of the first floor, right? Because there's no way the place I just described could be the first thing you come across. If you mean if the player traverses from the opposite end (say Victory Road, Pokemon League entrance to Route 22 entrance), then that's not really important. The location ordering should be from the player's first run through of the area (so Route 22 to Pokemon League).
:Sorting by floor order helps users see what items are available at a certain floor in one grouping. It'd actually be ''more'' confusing if the listing were to alternate between "Floor 1" and "Floor 2", especially if there's suddenly a "Basement floor" in between them.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 14:43, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
::may i suggest instead of RBY>GSC>FRLG>HGSS, that it be RBY>FRLG>GSC>HGSS? because rby frlg are basically the same games and a lot of the time they will have items that are common to all of them, but also a lot of the time frlg will have some new items, and shoving gsc items in between would not only look weird, but confusing.
::yes i mean for example tucked away in a place on the first floor that also serves as the back exit. therefore in a regular playthrough, most players would pick up said item last, since you run by every other item before it. victory road is a perfect example of what im talking about. of course i wouldnt list the items as if they were going from indigo plateau to route 22. that makes no sense. if you look at the list: https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Victory_Road_(Kanto)#Items i list guard spec ultra ball and full restore on floor 2 after overheat on floor 3. why? because those 3 items are grouped in an area in floor 2 that can only be accessible after passing through the entirety of floor 3; the area in this case being the exit. so in my head, this ordering makes perfect sense. blindly following floor order would mean i would list these items before the max revive, which again i dont think makes much sense since we talked about how they literally cant be come acrossed before the floor 3 items. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 18:11, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
:::Any unpredictable order is bad. A reasonable person would generally expect to see everything for a floor together. If I see several items that start with something like 1F, 2F, 1F, 3F, 5F (or whatever), it just looks messy to me. Nothing that extreme may occur in the games, but that's what your logic would demand. (And less extreme examples are still messy IMO.)
:::It's not exactly hard to look back to the "end" of a floor if there were items you just couldn't get to when you passed through the first part (if floors are grouped). But if floors aren't grouped, then if I see several items starting with "2F" and then that turns into "3F", I'm gonna think those were all the items on 2F in the list, and that can be very confusing. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:34, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
::::altho i still believe that 1F, 2F, 1F, 3F, 5F (or whatever) would be better if it made sense that you'd get the items that way, i have argued my point to the fullest and i can respect it if you disagree. however, still waiting on you force fire to answer my question about listing the items in region order rather than game order. aka kanto>johto>hoenn etc. over rby>gsc>frlg etc. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 00:57, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
:::::Ordering the games by RBY>FRLG>GSC>HGSS is fine, some (or a majority of) articles are like this.
:::::So we are talking about the same thing, that brings up the question of why you are concerned about having to place an item that is deep in a dungeon as the first item. As I said, the order should be listed on the players first run through of the area. You don't need to worry about those that'll traverse the opposite way.
:::::As for items that can only be accessed via another floor, group those under all the other Floor 2 items and say in the descriptor that it requires traversing through Floor 3. Putting those items below Floor 3 makes it a touch confusing, and also a bit walkthrough-ish. I guess it's just me being condescending, but players should be able figure that stuff (having to traverse through floor 3 to get to some floor 2 items) for themselves. And ass TiddlyWinks said, listing the items by floor looks much more cleaner and easier on the eyes.
:::::Also, I saw and checked that you changed the template to be one big listing rather than separate listings. Maybe that should've been discussed first before making the edit. --[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:47, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
::::::i am concerned about having to place an item that is deep as the first item because if for example it was one of, if not the only, items on the first accessible floor (say floor 1), but not accessible unless you traverse one of the other floors (say floor 2), then we gotta list it first even tho you probably get the other items on floor 2 before it. you already answered this in your 3rd paragraph. like i said to tiddlywinks if u guys feel like floor order is cleaner then fine. i also like your solution of putting in the descriptor that it requires traversing through floor 3. i think ill do that. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 14:33, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
::::::about putting in the descriptor that obtaining an item requires traversing another floor.. would you just list that as a sentence at the end? or would you like put it in an asterisk at the end? --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 15:24, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
:::::::Examples of these sorts of explanations/directions can be seen on pages like [[Frost Cavern]], [[Victory Road (Kalos)]], and [[Haina Desert]]. The descriptions should be easily readable, which tooltips are not (mobile users cannot read them at all AFAIK). The only reason to consider a tooltip would be if the detail is exceptionally long. (Because a very long description is, itself, also not the most readable thing.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:24, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

== Satomi Kōrogi ==

I need help moving the [[Satomi Kōrogi]] article. The romanization seems to prefer using Satomi K'''oo'''rogi instead but I am unable to move the article because of a redirect interfering. Thank you. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 22:33, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
:Moved.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 03:01, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
::Thanks! :D [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 03:18, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

== Transfer-only moves and ability changes ==

Can we add a section to every Pokemon page that lists all the moves the Pokemon can know only if it originated in an earlier generation (move tutors, old TMs, etc.)? Cross-checking multiple pages for this information is annoying. Second, can we change the Pokemon infobox template to make pages like {{p|Pelipper}} clear that Pelipper can't have drizzle in Generations 3-6? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 20:34, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
:I personally see no need in listing transferable moves, it's common sense. Of course a Pokémon that only knows X move in Gen III is going to know it if you transfer it to a Gen vII game. And it's really not much of a nuisance. Want a to know a Pokémon's moveset from a specific generation? go to the separate learnlists. Want a specific move? go to the specific move article. It's not ''that'' annoying.
:The infobox templates is currently in discussions of an update. The update will accommodate having more abilities listed. Have patience.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 07:05, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
::The whole purpose of learnset sections was to put every move that a Pokemon can know in one place, right? If the learnset sections are not doing that, what other purpose do they have? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 19:47, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
:::It's to list moves a Pokémon can learn in the '''current''' generation. Transferring moves isn't exactly "learning a move by level up or breeding in Generation VII". If a Pokémon can only learn a move in a previous generation, go to that generation's learnset or the move's article. You're only clicking one link, not 500. It's not as mundane as you're making it out to be.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:29, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
::::It appears to me you're just saying how another question is easy to answer.
::::If you're seriously interested in this (not just stalling), let me suggest (with best intentions) to just try to answer "What moves can Pikachu '''''know''''' in a copy of, say, USUM?" by browsing Bulbapedia. I currently need more than 5 minutes, and I would consider this ''the'' central use case, and probably the most important question for competitive play. (It's not even easy to be confident the resulting list was exhaustive, so if you'd like, you may even post your list here, and let me see if I have any more.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 09:46, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
:::::Saying "what can Pikachu learn in USUM" is literally the same as saying "what can Pikachu learn in Gen VII". Not Gen II. Not Gen IV. Saying a specific game means you're looking for a learnset from a specific generation. And it certainly does not take "more than 5 minutes" to find what you want. If you know what you're looking for, you have a Pokémon and move/generation in mind, it should only take you one minute top. A few clicks. You're not going to be scouring the entire site just to look for one move.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 11:43, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
::::::Neither of these question were asked, you just continue to answer them.
::::::Pikachu can ''know'' moves in USUM that it cannot ''learn'' in USUM, {{m|Mega Kick}}, for example. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 12:10, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
:::::::It's called a learnlist for a reason, moves a Pokémon can learn in a game or generation. Of course it'll know a move from a previous generation if you transfer it to a current game, that does not need to be spelled out. No one is going to think that it won't know the move once they transfer the Pokémon. If users want to know what moves it can learn previously, they can browse the site.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:24, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
{{indent}}I'm not sure you understand me/us (or even try to, really). So, just for me to get this clear: Are you saying that, in your opinion, a) the question "What moves can <species> '''''know''''' in <game/generation>?" is not relevant, not worthwhile for Bulbapedia to easily provide an answer to, and that b) species pages should only provide moves a Pokémon can ''learn'' in the current generation? [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 14:14, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
:It's not hard to find what you're looking for, all you're doing is clicking on one link, totaling up to a few seconds. If you had to go through page after page, I can get why it'd be annoying or hard. But it's not.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 14:39, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
::I'm beginning to feel confident you're just stalling. I'm asking questions, I don't get answers.
::I'll just continue trying to keep this simple: Please list all moves Pikachu can know (in a USUM game). If it's not hard, I'd be glad to hear that it's easily possible using Bulbapedia (and preferably also how). Also (and in particular if you're unable or unwilling to list all of Pikachu's moves), please answer the two questions I just asked, a) and b). [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 15:02, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
:::Bulbapedia is not a strategy guide. Comp is not our focus.
:::You're highlighting comp as your reason for a promoting "moves a [species] can know" angle. But there's a bunch of comp stuff we're never going to do. We're not doing tier lists. We're not gonna tell you what "good" movesets are. Comp is no reason that we would "have" to accomodate anything.
:::That's not to say we're thoroughly hostile to a list of "legacy" moves.
:::But kind of like ForceFire has said, learnlists ARE for what a Pokemon can learn ''within'' a generation. It doesn't ''strictly'' make sense to include "legacy" moves; that's a concern that comes from a pretty specific focus like comp/challenges.
:::Yes, it would be somewhat easier if we had a list of legacy moves. But (to repeat myself) that's not necessarily our focus and you ''can'' figure the information out if you really need to.
:::(And to repeat myself once more, we're not hostile to a legacy move list. I just can't tell you if/when it might happen at the moment.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:39, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
::::Thanks, Tiddlywinks.
::::I may be highlighting comp as the use case, and/but I know it's not our focus, I don't do so because I want to promote comp or anything. What I'm basically trying to do is rephrase Sumwun's question of what use case species (or learnset) pages currently try to serve; basically, why are they there, what are they supposed to easily provide an answer to:
::::"What move can <species> ''learn'' in <game/generation>?" may be equally sensible/important, but if the pages were focused (solely/primarily) on that, there would be no need to have an "By events" subsection (to a lesser extent, probably not even "By breeding"), and I think we can all agree that this information is valuable/sensible. What I'm thinking, and what I believe Sumwun thinks, is that a "By transfer from a prior generation" subsection is equally valuable/sensible.
::::Anyway, I know how that's a hassle to create or even design, and I'm not forcing it. But I'd like to stress that Sumwun's suggestion, in my opinion, is far from focusing on some weird, minor edge case, and is providing benefit. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 16:17, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
:::::"Please list Pikachu's moves in USUM". Just go to its page. It's right ''there''. Want to know it's previous moves, go click on ''one'' link. Easy. And I'm answering sumwun's reasoning of "cross checking multiple pages is annoying", since he's the one that stated this conversation. All you're trying to do is justify sumwun's laziness.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 16:49, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
::::::Right now, I can't just click one link. Depending on how old a Pokemon is, I may need to click 1-6 links, load 1-6 learnset pages, and scan 2-25 sections. I would consider reducing this to 0 clicks and 1 section a big and worthwhile improvement. If this kind of laziness is unjustified, why do we have any learnset pages at all? We might as well be saying, "Want to know whether <Pokemon> can learn <move>? Load ''one'' move article and do ''one'' ctrl f. Easy."
::::::By the way, I would also like to know the answers to Nescientist's 2 questions. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 22:05, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
:::::::That's an exaggeration. If you know what you're looking for, it'll only taking you one-two clicks. You can't be searching for what move a Pokemon can learn previously without a set goal. You're playing Ultra Sun, but you want to know what it can learn in '''Diamond''' version. Diamond is the key word which equates to '''Gen IV'''. So you're already looking for its Gen IV learnset. Go to its page and click on Gen IV. Done.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 11:54, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
::::::::I have moved this discussion to [[Bulbapedia talk:Project Pokédex/Structure#Adding moves available only by transfer from an earlier generation|a more public place]], so others have an easier opportunity to chime in (and so that possibly, ForceFire doesn't receive as much email notifications about messages not directed to them directly).
::::::::ForceFire, the question "What moves can Pikachu know in USUM?" does not include "Diamond", and [[Pikachu (Pokémon)]] does not mention Mega Kick. I have detailed some more about what pages you'd need to traverse where I have continued the discussion I'm interested in.
::::::::Tiddlywinks, I have addressed some of your comments there, and would appreciate to get to know your opinions. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 12:18, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::Pikachu cannot '''learn''' Mega Kick in USUM (hence why it's not there at first glance), but it can know it if you transfer it from another game (which is common sense, of course it's going to know Mega Kick if you transfer it, the game isn't going to force it to forget the move).
:::::::::I just gave an example of how it only take one-two clicks to find what you're looking for. And you misinterpreted my example. If you're thinking of a certain game, you're automatically thinking of a certain generation. Go to the page and click on that specific generation.
:::::::::You can convince me to change my mind, but so far, "it's too hard, annoying, and boring to sift through a few pages" is not convincing enough to change my mind.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:28, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
::::::::::I don't understand. Please name the page(s) I need to answer "What moves can Pikachu '''''KNOW''''' in USUM?". [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 12:31, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
{{indent}}When you say "know" you're saying what it can learn via other means, and that includes transfer. The pages are the previous gen learnset pages, those are the moves Pikachu can know in USUM if you were to transfer it to USUM. Honestly...--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:35, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
:And those are six, plus Pikachus page, that's seven. (I even mentioned other difficulties at the other page.) It's not easy, it's hard. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 12:37, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
::If you have a game in mind, you have a generation in mind. You mentioned Mega Kick, Pikachu can only learn it in Gen I, III, and VI. So you're '''ONLY''' going to click '''one''' of those link, not the other links. Why would you. You already have the generation you need, you don't need to click on the others. If someone is unsure of the generation, they would look through the move article and ctrl+f "Pikachu".
::It's like if I wanted to watch a certain Johto league episode, but I don't know which number it is. I'm not going to watch the entirety of the XY series, I'm going to look through the Johto arc.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:44, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
:::You're exactly right there, but you're answering "Can Pikachu know Mega Kick in USUM?", not "What moves can Pikachu know in USUM?". I have no prior knowledge that Mega Kick is a possible solution. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 12:47, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
::::If you don't have a move in mind, then you have a previous generation in mind (to transfer from). If you have neither in mind, then you're not really looking for "what move can Pikachu know in USUM".--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:51, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
:::::I'm positive that I have neither in mind, and that I am looking for "what moves can Pikachu know in USUM". [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 13:22, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
::::::Then you're not transferring then. The only other viable option of wanting to know what moves Pikachu can ''know'' is events, since everything else it learns, and events are already listed.
::::::If you're transferring Pokémon, you already have either a generation or move in mind. You're either thinking "I want to transfer Pikachu from <game>, but am not sure what it can learn in that game", which you then click on the '''appropriate''' generation moveset. Or you're thinking "I know Pikachu can learn <move> in a previous generation, but I don't know what game", which you then go to the move page and ctrl+f PIkachu.
::::::If you're not thinking of neither of those, then you aren't looking to transfer Pokémon.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 13:46, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
:::::::I'm not thinking of a specific generation. I want to know the answer to "What moves can Pikachu know in USUM".
:::::::I can post some ''more special'' questions that require the same page traversion, such as "Can Pikachu know a sleep-inducing move?" (i.e., can I get a Pikachu on my copy of USUM with a sleep-inducing move, by whatever means?"), or "What is the most powerful move Magikarp may know in USUM?" (i.e., what's the maximum base power for any move a Magikarp may know in USUM, by whatever means).
:::::::These should be questions you may understand better. Please try to answer them. (If you do, you will find out that you won't find the answers at the species pages alone.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 15:50, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
::::::::If we are expected to be able to go to the move page and ctrl f the Pokemon's name for transfer-only moves, why are we not expected to do that for all moves? Why do we have full lists of level up moves and TM moves for each Pokemon?
::::::::By the way, another example of a question that would become a lot easier is, "What are all the ways I can get a Golem that knows a physical attack that is strong against psychic?" [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 22:20, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
{{indent}}Nescientist... what do you mean by "know"? Because a Pokémon can "know" a move via transfer or events. If you have neither a generation or move in mind, then you are '''''not''''' transferring. You are just blindly going through pages for no reason. If you're question ends so vaguely at "What moves can Pikachu know in USUM", then I don't know what you're looking for because you're not explaining the method. It's either "What can Pikachu know in USUM '''via transfer'''" or "What can Pikachu know in USUM '''via events'''". If you're talking about transfers, then I've already answered that many times.

Wanting to know what "sleep inducing moves" or "highest possible power" is competitive fluff. We are not a strategy guide. Casual gamers aren't going to care about that stuff. A casual gamer is going to want to know what moves their Pokemon can know in the game they have in their hands without outside influence (i.e. transfer or events). They're not going to care about sleep inducing move or highest based power. Not everyone is a competitive player.

Sumwun, don't be difficult. I don't even know what you're talking about. If you have a '''''move''''' in mind, go to the move page and ctrl+f. If you have a '''''game''''' in mind, go to the appropriate learnset page. You are '''''not''''' going to be looking through the learnsets to look for a single move. No one is going to do that. '''''No one''''' is going to blindly look through six learnsets looking for just one move, when they can just go to the move article itself. It's not that hard. I don't think you understand what the different kinds templates are for, and assuming they're all do the same thing.

You're Golem question, like Nescientist's "sleep inducing" question is competitive fluff. Again, we are not a strategy guide. And your question was '''even more vague'''. What is the method you seek? level up? breeding? TM? what? Be more specific in your searches. I like to think users are browsing the site fully aware of what they are looking for, not exact but an idea of what they are looking for. By the sounds of it, you're browsing the site without a single thing in mind. It stops at "What can Golem learn/know" rather than specifying "What can Golem learn/know via this specific method".--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:31, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
:I already rephrased what it means when I do not specify: it means "by whatever means", which means at all, by level-up or events or transfer or ''anything'' else. Moves a Pokémon may know in USUM. I'm explicitly ''not'' saying "by transfer only" (or anything else), I don't know why you insist I need to say that; because that is not what I'm asking.
:Anyway, you seem to have understood that my specific questions (and Sumwun's) are hard to answer, not easy. (Which is good, because that's why I mentioned them; my original question is ''more general''.)
:I would object to your take that it's only competitive fluff (and I did so [[Bulbapedia talk:Project Pokédex/Structure#Adding moves available only by transfer from an earlier generation|here]]). What do you think casual gamers would be looking for? If you're excluding what you call "competitive fluff", do you think they would need "By breeding"? (If so, why?) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 16:33, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
::If nobody goes through learnset pages for moves, what do people use them for?
::Transfer-only moves are not competitive fluff or strategy guides. They are real Pokemon information that is true even when nobody is competitive battling and is not at all fan-made, but they simply happen to be more useful to competitive battlers. If this kind of information isn't allowed on Bulbapedia, why do we have a page called "World Championships", which is pretty much the definition of competitive battling? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 03:10, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
:::Nescientist: This discussion is about transfer moves, so I assume you're talking about and looking for transfer moves. If you're looking for "anything at all", then you're not looking for anything specific so the '''bare minimum''' is already on the species article, you do not need to click on anything else. Everything it can know at '''bare minimum''' is ''right there''.
:::I didn't even answer both of your questions. I basically said that they are irrelevant because we are not a strategy guide. We're not going to say "This Pokemon can know this move which is X power" because that is competitive fluff and strategy guide-ish. No casual gamer is going to think that specifically.
:::I just said what casual gamers are looking for "'''things their Pokemon can learn normally within the game they have in their hands, without outside influence like transfers and events'''". This includes, level up moves, TMs, and such. Breeding is game mechanic and should be listed, I don't regard it as competitive fluff.
:::Sumwun: I don't think you understand how these things work. People look through the learnsets to look for moves '''''from a specific game or generation'''''. They are looking for the '''entire moveset''', not just one move. '''The entire moveset'''. If you're looking for one move, go to the move article. Looking for a moveset for a specific game, look through the learnset. It's not that hard to understand.
:::"World Championships" is an article detailing an event. It's not detailing strategies. It's not detailing what moves would be better. It's not detailing which Pokemon would be better. It's just detailing the event. Again, it's like you have no idea what that article is about.
:::It's real information, yes. But it can be seen by going through the moveset pages, because like I said, someone looking to transfer their Pokemon over so they can have a Pokemon with a move they can no longer learn, already have a game or move in mind. They are not blindly looking through pages.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:23, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
::::Just going to put my 2 cents in here (I'm not strongly for nor against):
::::1) Firstly, I think an important question that needs to be answered first is: Does a section on transfer-only moves have any role outside of the competitive field? All the examples raised at the moment have all been competitive play-oriented which I agree shouldn't be Bulbapedia's focus. I can think of one question where a transfer-only moves section ''could'' help with (e.g. "A Corsola I received from a trade has Whirlpool, Sucker Punch, and Secret Power. Is it hacked?" - although it wouldn't be too hard to find this information elsewhere + it is quite a specific question).
::::2) Another point that should be discussed is that some (albeit a small number of) moves may not be obvious to some users whether they can be transferred or not - e.g. inability to transfer most HMs, ability to transfer from VC, ability to transfer certain HMs (e.g. Defog, Whirlpool)
::::3) Lastly, I should note that a transfer-only moves section is likely to be longer than most will think (esp. as most of it is made up of moves which lost their TM status in a new gen) - though the length isn't as important --[[User:Wowy|'''Wowy''']][[User talk:Wowy|'''(토크)''']] 07:01, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
:::::i don't think your example is all that great, because force fire is going to say you would just look up the move pages of each of those individual moves and ctrl f for corsola. an example i could think of which is pretty niche, but possible i think, is "im dead set on having a corsola for my playthrough of ultra sun. i want it to have the best movelist possible; im willing to transfer from prev gens to do so. is there a quick way i can get a list of all those moves without having to go through all the pages?" so imo this new section for moves learned from prev gens isnt useless; theres definitely a benefit. i think the question is, is it worth it.
:::::if you ARE going through the lists of previous gens, you already know what you ARENT looking for: every move learnable from the current gen. although i dont think going through lists for new moves requires THAT much work, i dont think the work is negligible either. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 07:47, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
::::::Yes, I completely agree with you (maybe I should have made that more clear). I was just trying to give an example of a question which would be less competitive play-oriented (because the examples already given are not), and I as I said, the information could easily be found elsewhere --[[User:Wowy|'''Wowy''']][[User talk:Wowy|'''(토크)''']] 08:48, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
:::::::I don't know how I can be any clearer, but the question is "What are moves Pikachu can know in USUM", i.e. by whatever means; it is not, I repeat, NOT something else. The species page alone does not answer it: you need that and ''all'' previous generation learnsets, at minimum. (And that's all I'm saying, basically. I believe you, ForceFire, finally understood that.)
:::::::Wowy, I believe it would only be beneficial if you presented your opinion at [[Bulbapedia talk:Project Pokédex/Structure#Adding moves available only by transfer from an earlier generation|that other talk page]] (maybe even answered my question there). Anyway, I'm just gonna address your points here:
:::::::1. I wouldn't know how any question about moves would not have at least some relevance to competitive play; battles and moves are a central concept of the Pokémon franchise, and anyone who plays Pokémon should have some interest in competitive play. It's a different thing to talk about serious competitive battlers (like, those who maintain tier lists and whatnot), though; and I think they wouldn't really care what the answer to my two questions are (but I could be mistaken, because again, I'm not a competitive player myself). The Swinub I mentioned at that other page was purely non-competitive in that sense, too; I used it for a playthrough. As an aside, I guess the section I propose wouldn't necessarily answer your type of "legal" question; for example, a section would include both {{m|Pay Day}} and {{m|Mimic}} for Pikachu, but a Pikachu that knows both moves simultaneously would still be illegal (I think that's similar to how the current "By breeding" section cannot answer whether two Egg Moves at the same time are legal.)
:::::::2. I already said that at that other page when I explained that it is even harder to find out than I initially thought. (A "By transfer" section will ''not'' necessarily include all moves a Pokémon may have known at some earlier game (Pikachu ''can'' know {{m|Petal Dance}}, for example, but ''not'' in USUM by any means such as transfer); therefore, I also don't think Tiddlywinks' choice of the word "legacy moves" was exact for my proposal.)
:::::::3. I'm not sure it will be that long, but as you said, it shouldn't really matter.
:::::::Sumwun: I ''do'' understand what you're saying (and I agree), but you seem to derail the discussion with some of your more provocative questions (ForceFire never said Bulbapedia shouldn't cover anything that has anything to do with competitive play, for example). I hope that's not your intention, let's try to keep it simple. :)
:::::::ForceFire, moves listed under "By breeding" are not covered by the text you bolded (and by the way, in my opinion, those are about as much "competitive fluff" as "By transfer" is), "By events" even less. I think you didn't answer whether you think casual gamers would need "By breeding"!? (Or did you? I'm still - seriously - trying to get to the bottom of what you think move sections should cover and why.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 16:57, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
::::::::You didn't even read what I wrote, because I already answered that in my previous response. And I know it's an outright lie when you say you don't have a game or generation in mind, because the question is "What can Pikachu know in '''USUM'''". You've singled out '''USUM'''. That is that game you have in mind. And since you're not looking for anything specific, just the bare minimum (level up, TMS) and that's already on the article. All moves that Pikachu can know through '''normal gameplay (i.e. not anything specific, by any means)''' in '''USUM''' are already on the Pikachu page. The species page already has the most current (i.e. '''USUM''' or '''Gen VII''') moveset. Why are you even looking through the previous generation movesets if you're only looking for moves it can know in'''USUM'''? It's already on the species page, you don't need to click on anything else.
::::::::Breeding is a game mechanic. It's as important as TMs and level up moves. The move sections should cover all moves a Pokémon can learn '''through normal gameplay''' in the most '''recent game or generation'''. Transferring isn't '''learning through normal gameplay". Sure, neither are events, but I can look past that because those are generally one time things and should be noted.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 17:39, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::Nescientist didn't ask for moves that could be known "through normal gameplay". He/she/it asked for moves that could be known "by whatever means", which includes transfer as well as normal gameplay. Is this not a valid question to ask? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 18:14, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
::::::::::Sigh.. Going through it step by step:
::::::::::# I did read your (whole) message.
::::::::::# I did not lie.
::::::::::# I am not looking for a bare minimum. (My question was on "moves Pikachu can know in USUM [by whatever means]".)
::::::::::# What Sumwun said (and everyone, including Sumwun, should be able to see how it is a ''valid'' question to ask).
::::::::::# I am looking through previous movesets because not all moves Pikachu can know in USUM are at [[Pikachu (Pokémon)]]; Mega Kick, for example, isn't. (We've been there before, I mentioned that way up above, even rephrased it repeatedly.)
::::::::::# Yes, I do need to click on something else to check, i.e. all previous movesets (at minimum).
::::::::::# Transfer is a game mechanic.
::::::::::# In my opinion, breeding is not quite as important as TMs and level-up moves, if only because I cannot—by no means—teach (an individual) Pokémon I already own its species' Egg Moves. (It's still important, though.)
::::::::::# Finally, a "definition" of what you think move sections should cover: moves Pokémon may ''learn'' through normal gameplay within the generation, plus event moves. I'll just mention that they do already cover more than that, for example how {{p|Cubchoo}} may learn Avalanche in USUM.
::::::::::Beyond that, of course, I can't be of any help to you when you claim that I didn't read your message and outright lied. And, up to this point, I was trying hard. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 20:02, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::::I think the problem with the "outright lie" is that transferring a Pokemon requires 2 games. Nescientist knew that the END game would be US or UM. When Nescientist said he didn't have a game "in mind", he/she/it was referring to the START game, and his/her/its willingness to transfer a Pokemon FROM any game TO US or UM. Nescientist, is this right? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 20:52, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
::::::::::::Yes, in your words/example, the end game would be USUM, but the start game could be anything (including USUM itself, i.e. no transfer at all). [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 16:42, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::::::Should we bring this discussion to another administrator's talk page? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 17:22, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

== Need your help ==

Hi there! Can you please help me with [[User talk:Mikuri#Who's stalking whose edits?|this discussion]]? I am tired of explaining to them that their obsession with having the current revision of a page is more of a hindrance than a help. Aside from the examples I offered in my talk page, you can check GrammarFreak01's latest edits to [[Marian]]'s page. That sentence they edited was perfectly fine as it was, but they changed it for no reason other than being the last person to have edited the page.

In doing so, they added misleading information because they clearly have no knowledge on the matter, first by saying that Jessie was disguised as Jessedia "at the time", creating a false impression that she disguised as Jessedia on one occasion when in fact this is a recurring disguise Jessie has changed into at least three times, and then by saying she was "briefly disguised". Assuming you don't know, Jessie has appeared as Jessedia for the duration of the entire Kanto Grand Festival and the Wallace Cup's Battle Stage, as well as in DP093 when she was interviewing Fantina.

This is not what one would call "briefly". This is not a one-time disguise that is blown off by Ash and his friends at the end of the episode. It's a recurring thing, and GrammarFreak01 is apparently unaware of that and changing a sentence that was completely okay with their nonsense just to accomplish their "goal". It's getting tired and I'm asking for help because these are instances in which I got involved, but who knows the amount of wrong information they have added to the tons of pages they edit daily.

It's frankly discouraging to edit a page only to have its content vandalized (inserting gibberish into pages counts as vandalism, right?) by someone who has no idea what they're doing and are just trying to get the most recent revision of a page. Also, judging by their latest edit to my talk page, they expect me to be some sort of wizard who can see into the future and tell them that their edit is wrong ''before'' they even make it. I don't know how to respond to that and I'm not the only user who has complained about GrammarFreak01's bad editing habits. Something needs to be done about this situation and that's why I'm asking you to intervene. Please help. --[[User:Mikuri|'''Mi''']][[User talk: Mikuri|'''ku''']][[Special:Contributions/Mikuri|'''ri''']] 15:12, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

:I am well aware of how long Jessie has been disguised as Jessedia and what she used that disguise for. [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Marian&type=revision&diff=2860143&oldid=2860142 The original sentence] in question just did not make sense to me from a grammatical standpoint. Also, for someone who constantly complains about me having a need to "have the current revision of a page", Mikuri has a nasty habit of editing articles hours and even minutes right after me, leading me to assume she is maliciously following me using my edit history. Examples of this are:

:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Melody_(M02)&action=history Melody (M02)]
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Maren&action=history Maren]
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Carol&action=history Carol]
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Tobias_(M02)&action=history Tobias (M02)]
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Molly_Hale&action=history Molly Hale]
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Liza_(Johto)&action=history Liza (Johto)]
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Oakley&action=history Oakley]
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Annie_(M05)&action=history Annie (M05)]
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Ross&action=history Ross]
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Butler&action=history Butler]
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Rafe&action=history Rafe]
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Jack_Walker&action=history Jack Walker]
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Lugia_(M02)&action=history Lugia (M02)]
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Entei_(M03)&action=history Entei (M03)]
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Celebi_(M04)&action=history Celebi (M04)]
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Suicune_(M04)&action=history Suicune (M04)]
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Lucario_(M08)&action=history Lucario (M08)]

:If you've noticed in the edit histories I provided, much of the articles hadn't been edited in months prior to my original edits. Then, when I make an edit, Mikuri follows after, which I find to be a complete contradiction to their complaints about my editing practices. This was also a problem back in June, when I first [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AMikuri&type=revision&diff=2809252&oldid=2808516 confronted Mikuri about it]. The articles in question were:

:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Lillie_(anime)&offset=20180628163311&action=history Lillie (anime)]
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Brock%27s_Vulpix&action=history Brock's Vulpix]
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Matori&offset=20180818063550&action=history Matori]

:At one point in our argument, I said [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AMikuri&type=revision&diff=2859786&oldid=2859767 this]. I admit that it was poorly worded due to my blinding irritation of the situation (and that I probably should've changed it once I calmed down). But what I was hoping to convey was that if Mikuri had a problem with me trying to hog the latest revision of a page, they should've tried to take it to the talk page sooner, just like what was usually done with me whenever there was a problem.

:Clearly, this is a problem that has been going on for months now and I would appreciate your mediation. I don't particularly care about any outcome anymore, so fire away. I only ask that this contradiction on Mikuri's part be addressed in some way. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 22:34, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

::I started "maliciously following" GrammarFreak01's edit history '''after''' I noticed they were stalking my edits. Usually after I finished doing a major edit to a page, they would appear to unnecessarily tweak image sizes (something Tiddlywinks has warned them about) or make another one of their pointless edits. I accused them of doing that in some of my edit summaries and they decided to [[User talk:Mikuri#You're being paranoid|come to my talk page]] and call me paranoid. I could provide a laundry list of that, but I don't feel like it's needed. For one, GrammarFreak01's talk page is chock-full of messages telling them to stop with the pointless edits (and some of them were left there by you, Force Fire). In addition, I am not the only user who has complained about their edit stalking habits, as there is a [[User talk:GrammarFreak01#Edit Stalking|message left by PardescanSlowbro]] detailing the exact same behavior.
::In their defense, all GrammarFreak01 had to say is that they receive email notifications after someone edits a page they have edited in the past. So what? This is no excuse to go around and make needless edits only to have the current revision of a page. And that is the main point of this discussion: GrammarFreak01's history of wholly unnecessary edits that add nothing to our pages. Correction: sometimes their edits make the page worse, as they add wrong information about a subject they know nothing about only to have the most recent revision, as was the case with [[Yuzo]]'s page. Their concern isn't quality content and accurate information, but rather an enormous amount of unverified nonsense. I honestly don't care if my revision isn't the current one and I don't have this kind of problem with any other user in this entire wiki, '''unlike GrammarFreak01'''. Several users have contributed to pages I had worked on, and you don't see me complaining about them. But GrammarFreak01 is not here to contribute, they're here to make unnecessary edits.
::So yes, I can admit that I have edited several pages upon seeing one of GrammarFreak01's edits, but I guess this comes as no surprise considering the recent changes are there for everyone to see, and again, this was '''after''' I noticed they were stalking my edits and making unnecessary changes to them. And there's one notable difference: it was never to add information that was untrue about a subject I know nothing about. My point isn't that they are editing after me, but that those edits are needless. Editing a page after another user isn't a blockable offense, but inserting gibberish into pages is, as is edit flood and edit wars, behaviors also exhibited by GrammarFreak01. And I think it is worth comparing our contributions: I usually do a complete overhaul by adding verified information I gathered and uploading high quality images to the Archives, while GrammarFreak01 has a long and documented history of making pointless edits that add no real content to Bulbapedia and edit warring. --[[User:Mikuri|'''Mi''']][[User talk: Mikuri|'''ku''']][[Special:Contributions/Mikuri|'''ri''']] 00:34, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
:::If you read the entire discussion, you will see that [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AGrammarFreak01&type=revision&diff=2825193&oldid=2825153 I explained myself and asked PardescanSlowbro for examples] where my edits were unnecessary and clearly malicious. I was happy to address those concerns. But they did not get back to me on that. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 01:25, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

== False positive abuse filter triggers ==

Hello, recently I tried to move a message I misplaced on a user's talk page (see log [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Special:AbuseLog?wpSearchUser=Ozank&wpSearchTitle=&wpSearchWiki= here]) to the bottom where it should have been, but the abuse filter didn't let me. If you want to look into this, feel free. [[User:Ozank|Ozank]] ([[User talk:Ozank|talk]]) 16:43, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

:He already [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:GrammarFreak01#Re:_Heads_up responded to that]. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 17:39, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
::Yeah, I've already answered this on GrammarFreak's talk page. I think the system may have deemed moving sections (to the proper place) a drastic edit for a new user. Other than that, you should be fine once you've become a member for a period of time.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:20, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

== Mimikyu's name ==

Hi there,
Since you're the one who placed the warning in Mimikyu's "Name Origin", would you mind giving it a look [[Talk:Mimikyu (Pokémon)#Mimic_.2B_Q_2|here]]? Seeing that talking about it in the talk page was the recommendation, I'd like to discuss about it a little. Thanks. [[User:ExLight|ExLight]] ([[User talk:ExLight|talk]]) 01:46, 20 October 2018 (UTC)

== Mewtwo's voice actor ==

I just watched [https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lrTmDZavVVc a video] where it was revealed that the English voice actor of the {{OBP|Mewtwo|original series|original series Mewtwo}} was actually ''not'' Philip Bartlett. That was a stage name, and the Philip Bartlett who died years ago was a completely different person, with the ''real'' English voice actor behind Mewtwo ''and'' the Philip Bartlett stage name being a man named Jay Goede. I feel like this is worth checking into. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:22, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
:[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Dr._Fuji_(anime)&diff=2200677&oldid=2192996 Judging by this] and [[Talk:M01#Dr. Fuji's voice|this]], it's been acknowledged back in 2014.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 09:38, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
::Ah. Okay. Sorry. Shouldn't there then be something like a tooltip on Mewtwo's page to indicate that "Philip Bartlett" is just a stage name? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 09:58, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
:::Don't think it's too much of an issue to do so.

== Troublesome user ==

Heads up. Clearly [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Special:Contributions/Cheekybutthole this user] is [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Probopass_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&diff=prev&oldid=2868297 not here to contribute]. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 03:26, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

:Never mind, {{U|Abcboy}} took care of it. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 03:41, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

== links ==

is it all right to repeat links from an above section in a lower one. and u know that internal error that was mentioned above? im still getting it. also i couldnt help noticing ur ignoring a poor man's cry for help up above. not a very nice thing to do, wouldnt u say? :) --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 14:16, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
:If something has already been linked in a section, it does not need to be linked again. It's fine to have one link per section, '''only if said link isn't directly below the previous section'''. Once every few sections is fine, but not literally the next section below it.
:The internal error issue is being looked into. There has been no updates yet on its progress.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:41, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
::so lets say a link keyword is in every section. you'd want it to be linked in every other section? 1st, 3rd, 5th, etc. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 06:10, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
:::Use common sense. Also, you don't have to link every time the word "Pokémon species", "Pokémon trainer", or whatever appears.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:21, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

==Voice Actors==
Sent you an email with a list of voice actors from Lisa Ortiz, do I have your approval?--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 16:12, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
:Those are fine to be added.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:45, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

== Statistic ==

Why did you undo my edit to statistic? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 17:56, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
:You're change wasn't necessary. It was basically saying the same thing.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 03:44, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
::I changed "take effect" to "start affecting turn order", which does not mean the same thing. Speed has other effects, such as determining the base power of gyro ball and electro ball, and those other effects immediately respond to changes to speed. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 04:52, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
:::The full sentence is " will not take effect until the following turn". What you changed it to is still saying that it wont take effect until the next turn.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:00, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
::::What it currently says is false because it implies that changes to speed do not start affecting the power of gyro ball and electro ball until the next turn. What I changed it to is true because it does not imply that. How can they say the same thing if one is false and the other is true? Would it be better if it said, "An in-battle change to a Pokémon's Speed stat will not start affecting turn order until the following turn, but otherwise takes effect immediately"? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 18:49, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
:::::If I might butt in here, if what Sumwun is saying is true (I've not seen any information whether it is or not), then there 'is' a difference between the two, and I think Sumwun's edit should be reinstated. Speed has effect on more things than just turn order, and some might react to changes sooner than others. --[[User:Felthry|Felthry]] ([[User talk:Felthry|talk]]) 18:00, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
:::::Why would you assume the sentence is talking about Gyro Ball or Electro Ball? It clearly isn't. It's talking about when a Pokémon's speed gets changed due to a stat change, it won't take affect until the following turn. Gyro Ball and Electro Ball are not moves that affect the user's speed, but rely on it, it's not going to get affected by a stat changing move.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:48, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
:::::::Before commenting on the first 2 sentences of that comment, I just wanted to tell you that the last 2 sentences [https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7anythinggoes-834770797 are false]. I will admit that Showdown! is the most reliable battle simulator available to me, and I'm sorry if that's not reliable enough. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 06:51, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
::::::::"Simulator", hence why it isn't reliable. You can change things with a simulator.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 07:17, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::The replay was done in "Anything Goes", a standard format that does not change any battle mechanics. Do you still not trust it? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 16:38, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
::::::::::No.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 16:40, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::::If not a Showdown! replay, what can convince you that changes in speed can take effect immediately? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 18:03, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
::::::Gyro Ball and Electro Ball both depend on the user's speed, right? So why would you expect that changes to the user's speed wouldn't affect those moves? Regardless of whether it "clearly isn't" talking about them as you personally see it, it's better to be precise than to rely on implicit statements. --[[User:Felthry|Felthry]] ([[User talk:Felthry|talk]]) 23:38, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

== New Devolution ==
Hello Force Fire, I am a foreigner and reader on the Bulbapedia site. I only created an account in order to discuss a possible Pokémon capable of performing a Devolution, I mean Silvally (Type: Full).

Since originally this was his original form, however, he involuted to Type: Null after Faba added a helmet to his face, slowing him down. He will only be Silvally again when he destroys the helmet, that is, if it is valid I would like some moderator on the site to add this Pokémon to the article [[Devolution]]. [[User:NanayaShiki07|NanayaShiki07]] ([[User talk:NanayaShiki07|talk]]) 20:07, 10 November 2018 (~)
:Games=/=anime. I personally don't think it counts as anything. I also don't really care, mainly because the whole story behind Silvally and Type: Null, and how the latter is just the former with a helmet. It just unnecessarily makes things confusing and messes the whole concept of evolution in the franchise. So I don't have any strong opinions about this.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:48, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

== N as a rival ==

Don't put a message that says "Please do not add N, as he is not a rival" on the page, If you have an argument against it then put it in the talk page! [[User:Nightfall217|Nightfall217]] ([[User talk:Nightfall217|talk]]) 23:48, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
:As an administrator I ''can'' place a hidden message telling users what not to do until a consensus has been made.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:48, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

== Leaf Discussion Page ==
I noticed you left a note on my userpage telling me not to delete other people's comments. I want to assure you that I have not done so, and in fact had my comments removed twice by other people when they re-formatted the page. --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 07:16, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

== Spaceworld Mainspace ==

Hello, I was wondering if we could start slowly mainspacing some Pokémon Gold and Silver beta information, as the leaked Spaceworld ROM has been around for nearly a half a year now. A lot of the interest for adding this information onto the site has slowed down, and I thought that perhaps if only a little bit of information was added, like, for example, [[User:Celadonkey/Spaceworld/Dex|a list of Pokémon]], [[User:Celadonkey/Spaceworld#Chikorita_.28Pok.C3.A9mon.29.2FBeta|one or two Pokémon articles]], or [[User:Frozen Fennec/Pokémon Gold and Silver Spaceworld Demo|some information on the gameplay]], then maybe it would spur interest and additions to the wiki. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 16:39, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
:Spaceworld stuff shouldn't be the priority right now, clearly. The staff still hasn't decided on how to handle this. Please don't think you can just move them without permission.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 16:57, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
::I wasn't going to move it without permission, that's why I asked you. And alright. Please let me know when staff has reached a decision because this is something I am very interested in helping out with --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 17:02, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

== I want to turn a redirect into an article for something else, but I don't have the writing skills. ==

I asked Chosen 5 days ago, but he never responded. I asked Glik earlier today, but unfortunately he doesn't play the game and couldn't help.

Anyway, there's a substance called R in the game Detective Pikachu, and it's a big part of the game's story. When I went to search its article, it redirects me to the Trainer Tower instead. I am definitely not able to write the article myself (I sucked at Language Arts), but I also don't want to leave the page as this redirect. What can I do? [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 01:24, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
:Write a stub or incomplete article? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 02:33, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
::You already created a userpage it seems. You can invite others to help flesh out the article. Sadly, I've never played Detective Pikachu, so I wouldn't know much.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:58, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
:::Well I did ask Abcboy, as he added the plot into the game's article. Hopefully he responds. *checks edit history* Maybe I'll ask GrammarFreak01 too. Thanks for the advice. [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 16:29, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

== [[Sea Cottage]] and [[Trophy Garden]] ==

Hi there. You recently removed information relating to the Bill's Secret Garden rumour without engaging in discussion first, as I had explicitly requested on the talk pages for those articles. I have provided four different articles regarding Bill's Secret Garden and it's mentioned on numerous fansites, so I'm not sure what further evidence you require. It's an extremely notorious rumour. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 13:43, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
:I was in the midst of responding on those talk pages whilst you wrote this.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 13:54, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
:: Commenting 20 minutes ''after'' the removals isn't exactly a discussion. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 13:57, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

Now that you have hopefully had some time to cool off, can I get you to re-appraise your behaviour? Condescending comments like "learn some patience" and referring to seeking a second opinion as "spamming" staff members do not convey respect to others, and I would appreciate it if you would apologise for these comments. Additionally, I would appreciate if you would acknowledge wrong-doing in burying the list of discussion materials I provided to show the scope of the Secret Garden rumour. Whilst you claim that you were trying to figure out how to add a collapsible section, I am genuinely unsure how I would be expected to intent for something you would not do for another hour. I'd like to encourage you to be more transparent: throughout our interactions yesterday you have seemed to think that I should know what you are doing when you provided no explanation for your actions.

I'd also like you to acknowledge that jumped the gun in issuing a warning, since you started reverting pages without offering discussion, and I have been actively trying to discuss the issues raised and establish consensus with other users. (For the record, your lone opinion isn't a consensus.) Please consider the effect that such actions will have upon others; if you disregard the views of regular users, that will have a chilling effect upon editing activity. Nobody wants to have their edits reverted immediately and then be insulted by admins, and treating people that way puts them off editing.

For the record, this isn't the first time you've been insulting towards me: [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:Force_Fire/Archive_3#Reversion_of_my_edit] That was a long time ago, but it's kind of telling that you didn't actually apologise. Perhaps we can try a different resolution this time, where you apologise for your behaviour? --[[user:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] 11:34, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
: I actually just looked through the edit chain associated with that post, and it's interesting how similar your behaviour is to that of 8 years ago: edit warring whilst insisting your opinion is correct without engaging with others who are telling you that you're wrong. It would probably be a good idea to learn to be more open to the views of others, and apologise more readily when you step on people's toes. Without resolution, bruised feelings fester into resentment, which can result in long-standing feuds. It's so much easier to just apologise and let things drop. --[[user:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] 11:39, 21 November 2018 (UTC)

User talk:Force Fire/Archive 9

2018-11-21T11:34:24Z

Poppy Appletree: /* Sea Cottage and Trophy Garden */

User talk:FinnishPokéFan92/Archive 2

2018-11-21T11:20:21Z

Poppy Appletree: /* Trophy Garden edit war */

Brittany (TCG GB)

2018-11-21T11:08:04Z

Poppy Appletree: Cleaning up run-on sentence

'''Brittany''' (Japanese: '''アヤコ''' ''Ayako'') is one of the three Club Members from the [[Grass Club]], under [[Club Master Nikki]], in {{ga|Pokémon Trading Card Game}}.

==In {{ga|Pokémon Trading Card Game}}==
[[File:TCG1 Brittany.png|thumb|right]]
The player is required to battle with Brittany, in a 4 prize card match, in order to challenge Club Master Nikki. Upon defeat, Brittany awards the player with two {{GB|1|Mystery}} booster packs.

==={{TCG|Etc. Deck}}===
{{decklist/header}}
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Caterpie|45}}|Grass||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Weedle|69}}|Grass||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Nidoran♀|57}}|Grass||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Oddish|58}}|Grass||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Tangela|66}}|Grass||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Charmander|46}}|Fire||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Fossil|Magmar|39}}|Fire||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Pikachu|58}}|Lightning||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Magnemite|53}}|Lightning||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Diglett|47}}|Fighting||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Machop|52}}|Fighting||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Gastly|50}}|Psychic||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Jynx|31}}|Psychic||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Bill|91}}|Trainer||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Energy Retrieval|81}}|Trainer||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Fossil|Energy Search|59}}|Trainer||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Poké Ball|64}}|Trainer||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Base Set|PlusPower|84}}|Trainer||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Defender|80}}|Trainer||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|8|{{TCG|Grass Energy}}|Energy|Grass}}
{{decklist/entry|4|{{TCG|Fire Energy}}|Energy|Fire}}
{{decklist/entry|4|{{TCG|Lightning Energy}}|Energy|Lightning}}
{{decklist/entry|4|{{TCG|Fighting Energy}}|Energy|Fighting}}
{{decklist/entry|4|{{TCG|Psychic Energy}}|Energy|Psychic}}
{{decklist/footer}}

==In [[Pokémon Card GB2: Here Comes Team GR!]]==
Brittany plays two different decks over the course of the game. Both decks are four prize card matches.

===Poison Bee Deck===
'''Poison Bee Deck''' (Japanese: '''のこされたみどりのデッキ''') is the first deck played by Brittany. Upon defeat, she awards the player with two {{GB|2|Beginning Pokémon}} booster packs.

This is a required matchup to progress the storyline towards fighting [[GR-2]]. Brittany can first be found at the dueling table in the communications room of the [[Grass Club]]. Defeating Brittany for the first time gets the player information about her superior, Nikki, who is hiding out at [[Mr. Ishihara's House]] and will only appear there at this point in the story. This battle therefore must be played at least once to progress the game.

If you challenge Brittany at a later point in the game, she will have upgraded her deck and will no longer use this decklist.

{{decklist/header}}
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Bulbasaur Deck|Bulbasaur|1}}|Grass||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Bulbasaur Deck|Ivysaur|22}}|Grass||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|4|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Weedle|69}}|Grass||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Kakuna|33}}|Grass||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Beedrill|17}}|Grass||Rare}}
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Nidoran♂|55}}|Grass||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Nidorino|37}}|Grass||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Vending|Venonat|S3}}|Grass||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Tangela|66}}|Grass||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Fossil|Energy Search|59}}|Trainer||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Potion|94}}|Trainer||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Full Heal|82}}|Trainer||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Bill|91}}|Trainer||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|4|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Poké Ball|64}}|Trainer||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|27|{{TCG|Grass Energy}}|Energy|Grass|None}}
{{decklist/footer}}

===Poison Curse Deck===
'''Poison Curse Deck''' (Japanese: '''どくばちデッキ''') is the second deck played by Brittany. Defeating Brittany while she uses this deck gets the player a {{GB|2|Beginning Pokémon}} booster pack and a {{GB|2|Psychic Battle}} booster pack.

Brittany begins using this deck at some point late in the story, at which point she will always play with this decklist.

{{decklist/header}}
{{decklist/entry|4|{{TCG ID|Vending|Weedle|S1}}|Grass||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Vending|Kakuna|S1}}|Grass||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Beedrill|17}}|Grass||Rare}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Bellsprout|49}}|Grass||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Weepinbell|48}}|Grass||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Victreebel|14}}|Grass||Rare Holo}}
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Tangela|66}}|Grass||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|GB|Tangela|1}}|Grass||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Vending|Scyther|S3}}|Grass||Rare}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Pinsir|9}}|Grass||Rare Holo}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Energy Removal|92}}|Trainer||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Professor Oak|88}}|Trainer||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Potion|94}}|Trainer||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Super Energy Removal|79}}|Trainer||Rare}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Defender|80}}|Trainer||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Switch|95}}|Trainer||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Bill|91}}|Trainer||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Double Colorless Energy|96}}|Energy|Colorless|Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|25|{{TCG|Grass Energy}}|Energy|Grass|None}}
{{decklist/footer}}

{{Club Members}}
{{Project CharacterDex notice}}

{{DEFAULTSORT:Brittany}}
[[Category:Female characters]]

[[de:Clubmitglied Britta]]

Kristin (TCG GB)

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'''Kristin''' (Japanese: '''ハルナ''' ''Haruna'') is one of the three Club Members from the [[Grass Club]], under [[Club Master Nikki]], in {{ga|Pokémon Trading Card Game}}.

==In {{ga|Pokémon Trading Card Game}}==
[[Image:TCG1 Kristin.png|thumb|right]]
The player is required to battle with Kristin, in a 4 prize card match, in order to challenge Club Master Nikki. Upon defeat, Kristin awards the player with two {{GB|1|Evolution}} booster packs.

==={{TCG|Flower Garden Deck}}===
{{decklist/header}}
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Bulbasaur|44}}|Grass||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Ivysaur|30}}|Grass||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Venusaur|15}}|Grass||Rare Holo}}
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Oddish|58}}|Grass||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Gloom|37}}|Grass||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Vileplume|15}}|Grass||Rare Holo}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Bellsprout|49}}|Grass||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Weepinbell|48}}|Grass||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Victreebel|14}}|Grass||Rare Holo}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|GB|Tangela|1}}|Grass||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Tangela|66}}|Grass||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Lickitung|38}}|Colorless||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Pokémon Trader|77}}|Trainer||Rare}}
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Pokémon Breeder|76}}|Trainer||Rare}}
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Fossil|Energy Search|59}}|Trainer||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Switch|95}}|Trainer||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Potion|94}}|Trainer||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Full Heal|82}}|Trainer||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|24|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Grass Energy|99}}|Energy|Grass|None}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Double Colorless Energy|96}}|Energy|Colorless|None}}
{{decklist/footer}}

==In [[Pokémon Card GB2: Here Comes Team GR!]]==
===Glittering Scales Deck===
'''Glittering Scales Deck''' (Japanese: '''かがやくりんぷんデッキ''') is the only deck played by Kristen in a 4 prize card match. Defeating Kristin gets the player a {{GB|2|Legendary Power}} booster pack.

Kristin initially will not battle the player. If the player speaks to her in the communications room while [[GR-2]] is in control of the Grass Club, she will give the player a free Legendary Power booster pack. After [[GR-3]] leaves the [[Water Club]], Kristin will have this deck ready for battle. If GR-3 leaves the Water Club before the Grass Club is freed, Kristin will be ready to battle immediately following the Grass Club being freed.

{{decklist/header}}
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Bulbasaur Deck|Bulbasaur|1}}|Grass||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Bulbasaur Deck|Ivysaur|22}}|Grass||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|4|{{TCG ID|Vending|Venonat|S3}}|Grass||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Venomoth|13}}|Grass||Rare Holo}}
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Tangela|66}}|Grass||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Vending|Scyther|S3}}|Grass||Rare}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Jigglypuff|54}}|Colorless||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Wigglytuff|16}}|Colorless||Rare Holo}}
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Chansey|3}}|Colorless||Rare Holo}}
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Kangaskhan|5}}|Colorless||Rare Holo}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Porygon|39}}|Colorless||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Energy Removal|92}}|Trainer||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Professor Oak|88}}|Trainer||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Potion|94}}|Trainer||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Gust of Wind|93}}|Trainer||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Full Heal|82}}|Trainer||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Bill|91}}|Trainer||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|24|{{TCG|Grass Energy}}|Energy|Grass|None}}
{{decklist/footer}}

{{Club Members}}
{{Project CharacterDex notice}}
[[Category:Female characters]]

[[de:Clubmitglied Laura]]

Heather (TCG GB)

2018-11-21T11:07:11Z

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'''Heather''' (Japanese: '''ミサオ''' ''Misao'') is one of the three Club Members from the [[Grass Club]], under [[Club Master Nikki]], in {{ga|Pokémon Trading Card Game}}

==In {{ga|Pokémon Trading Card Game}}==
[[Image:TCG1 Heather.png|thumb|right]]
The player is required to battle with Heather, in a 4 prize card match, in order to challenge Club Master Nikki. Upon defeat, Heather awards the player with two {{GB|1|Colosseum}} booster packs.

==={{TCG|Kaleidoscope Deck}}===
{{decklist/header}}
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Venonat|63}}|Grass||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Venomoth|13}}|Grass||Rare Holo}}
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|GB|Flareon|1}}|Fire||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Flareon|3}}|Fire||Rare Holo}}
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|GB|Vaporeon|1}}|Water||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Vaporeon|12}}|Water||Rare Holo}}
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|GB|Jolteon|1}}|Lightning||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Jolteon|4}}|Lightning||Rare Holo}}
{{decklist/entry|4|{{TCG ID|GB|Ditto|1}}|Colorless||Rare}}
{{decklist/entry|4|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Eevee|51}}|Colorless||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|4|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Porygon|39}}|Colorless||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Bill|91}}|Trainer||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Fossil|Mr. Fuji|58}}|Trainer||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Fossil|Energy Search|59}}|Trainer||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|4|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Switch|95}}|Trainer||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Gust of Wind|93}}|Trainer||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|10|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Grass Energy|99}}|Energy|Grass|None}}
{{decklist/entry|4|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Fire Energy|98}}|Energy|Fire|None}}
{{decklist/entry|4|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Water Energy|102}}|Energy|Water|None}}
{{decklist/entry|4|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Lightning Energy|100}}|Energy|Lightning|None}}
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Double Colorless Energy|96}}|Energy|Colorless|None}}
{{decklist/footer}}

==In [[Pokémon Card GB2: Here Comes Team GR!]]==
===Steady Increase Deck===
'''Steady Increase Deck''' (Japanese: '''ドンドンぞうしょくデッキ''') is the deck played by Heather in a 4 prize card match. Defeating Heather gets the player an {{GB|2|Island of Fossil}} booster pack.

Heather is available to battle at some point later in the game after the player can access [[GR Island]]. Before the Grass Club is freed from [[GR-2]], the player can speak to Heather in the communications room and obtain a free Island of Fossil booster pack.

This deck is also available in Autodeck Machine 1 for the player to build automatically.

{{decklist/header}}
{{decklist/entry|4|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Oddish|58}}|Grass||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Gloom|37}}|Grass||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Vileplume|15}}|Grass||Rare Holo}}
{{decklist/entry|4|{{TCG ID|Vending|Paras|S1}}|Grass||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Vending|Parasect|S1}}|Grass||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|4|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Bellsprout|49}}|Grass||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Weepinbell|48}}|Grass||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Energy Retrieval|81}}|Trainer||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Professor Oak|88}}|Trainer||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Potion|94}}|Trainer||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Defender|80}}|Trainer||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Full Heal|82}}|Trainer||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|4|{{TCG ID|Fossil|Mr. Fuji|58}}|Trainer||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|23|{{TCG|Grass Energy}}|Energy|Grass}}
{{decklist/footer}}

{{Club Members}}
{{Project CharacterDex notice}}
[[Category:Female characters]]

[[de:Clubmitglied Vanessa]]

Jonathan (TCG GB)

2018-11-21T11:05:48Z

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'''Jonathan''' (Japanese: '''マサトシ''' ''Masatoshi'') is one of the three Club Members from the [[Fire Club]], under [[Club Master Ken]], in {{ga|Pokémon Trading Card Game}}.

==In {{ga|Pokémon Trading Card Game}}==
[[File:TCG1 Jonathan.png|thumb]]
This person challenges the player to a 4 prize card match.

Upon defeat, Jonathan awards the player with two {{GB|1|Colosseum}} booster packs.

==={{TCG|Reshuffle Deck}}===
{{decklist/header}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Ponyta|60}}|Fire||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|4|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Vulpix|68}}|Fire||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|GB|Ninetales|1}}|Fire||Rare}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Growlithe|28}}|Fire||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Arcanine|23}}|Fire||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|4|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Pidgey|57}}|Colorless||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Pidgeotto|22}}|Colorless||Rare}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|GB|Pidgeot|1}}|Colorless||Rare}}
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|GB|Jigglypuff|1}}|Colorless||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Wigglytuff|16}}|Colorless||Rare Holo}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Lickitung|38}}|Colorless||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Kangaskhan|5}}|Colorless||Rare Holo}}
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Tauros|47}}|Colorless||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Bill|91}}|Trainer||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Energy Retrieval|81}}|Trainer||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Energy Removal|92}}|Trainer||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Super Energy Removal|79}}|Trainer||Rare}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Switch|95}}|Trainer||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG|Double Colorless Energy}}|Energy|Colorless|Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|23|{{TCG|Fire Energy}}|Energy|Fire}}
{{decklist/footer}}

==In [[Pokémon Card GB2: Here Comes Team GR!]]==
===Immortal Flame Deck===

'''Immortal Flame Deck''' (Japanese: '''ふめつのほのおデッキ''') is the only deck played by Jonathan, played as a 4 prize card match. Defeating Jonathan gets the player two {{GB|2|Legendary Power}} booster packs.

Jonathan starts the game trapped in a cage with the other Fire Club members. After [[GR-3]] is defeated for the second time, he leaves the Fire Club and all members are freed. Jonathan can be battled immediately upon revisiting the club.

{{decklist/header}}
{{decklist/entry|4|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Charmander|46}}|Fire||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Charmeleon|24}}|Fire||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|4|{{TCG ID|Squirtle Deck|Growlithe|26}}|Fire||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Squirtle Deck|Arcanine|32}}|Fire||Rare}}
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Magmar|36}}|Fire||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Flareon|3}}|Fire||Rare Holo}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Kangaskhan|5}}|Colorless||Rare Holo}}
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Eevee|51}}|Colorless||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|4|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Energy Retrieval|81}}|Trainer||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Professor Oak|88}}|Trainer||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Potion|94}}|Trainer||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Full Heal|82}}|Trainer||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Bill|91}}|Trainer||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|25|{{TCG|Fire Energy}}|Energy|Fire|None}}
{{decklist/footer}}

==In other languages==
{{langtable|color={{tcg fire color}}|bordercolor={{tcg fire color dark}}
|de=Peter
|es=Genaro
|fr=Jonathan
|it=Jonathan
}}

{{Club Members}}
{{Project CharacterDex notice}}

{{DEFAULTSORT:Jonathan}}
[[Category:Male characters]]

[[de:Clubmitglied Peter]]

John (TCG GB)

2018-11-21T11:05:34Z

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:''For other uses for "John", see [[John]].''
----
'''John''' (Japanese: '''タカシ''' ''Takashi'') is one of the three Club Members from the [[Fire Club]], under [[Club Master Ken]], in {{ga|Pokémon Trading Card Game}}.

==In {{ga|Pokémon Trading Card Game}}==
[[File:TCG1 John.png|thumb|left]]
This person challenges the player to a 4 prize card match.

Upon defeat, this person awards the player with two {{GB|1|Evolution}} booster packs.

==={{TCG|Anger Deck}}===
{{decklist/header}}
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Growlithe|28}}|Fire||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Wizards Promo|Arcanine|6}}|Fire||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Cubone|50}}|Fighting||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Rattata|61}}|Colorless||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Raticate|40}}|Colorless||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Doduo|48}}|Colorless||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Dodrio|34}}|Colorless||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Tauros|47}}|Colorless||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Professor Oak|88}}|Trainer||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Bill|91}}|Trainer||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Energy Retrieval|81}}|Trainer||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Computer Search|71}}|Trainer||Rare}}
{{decklist/entry|4|{{TCG ID|Base Set|PlusPower|84}}|Trainer||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Defender|80}}|Trainer||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Gust of Wind|93}}|Trainer||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|4|{{TCG|Double Colorless Energy}}|Energy|Colorless|Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|10|{{TCG|Fire Energy}}|Energy|Fire}}
{{decklist/entry|8|{{TCG|Fighting Energy}}|Energy|Fighting}}
{{decklist/footer}}

==In [[Pokémon Card GB2: Here Comes Team GR!]]==
===Flame Festival Deck===

'''Flame Festival Deck''' (Japanese: '''ほのおのおまつりデッキ''') is the only deck played by John, played as a 4 prize card match. Defeating John gets the player two {{GB|2|Psychic Battle}} booster packs.

John starts the game trapped in a cage with the other Fire Club members. After [[GR-3]] is defeated for the second time, he leaves the Fire Club and all members are freed. John still cannot be battled at this point, but will be able to accept challenges at some point after the player can access [[GR Island]].

This deck is also available in Autodeck Machine 1 for the player to build automatically when the Fire Club is free.

{{decklist/header}}
{{decklist/entry|4|{{TCG ID|Vending|Vulpix|S3}}|Fire||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|GB|Ninetales|1}}|Fire||Rare}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Vending|Growlithe|S3}}|Fire||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Toyota|Arcanine|promo}}|Fire||None}}
{{decklist/entry|4|{{TCG ID|Vending|Ponyta|S3}}|Fire||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Vending|Rapidash|S1}}|Fire||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Vending|Magmar|S3}}|Fire||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Fossil|Magmar|39}}|Fire||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|CoroCoro|Meowth|promo}}|Colorless||None}}
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Energy Retrieval|81}}|Trainer||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Potion|94}}|Trainer||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Fan Book|Super Energy Retrieval|promo}}|Trainer||None}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Impostor Professor Oak|73}}|Trainer||Rare}}
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Bill|91}}|Trainer||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|26|{{TCG|Fire Energy}}|Energy|Fire|None}}
{{decklist/footer}}

{{Club Members}}
{{Project CharacterDex notice}}

{{DEFAULTSORT:John}}
[[Category:Male characters]]

[[de:Clubmitglied Tom]]

Adam (TCG GB)

2018-11-21T11:05:04Z

Poppy Appletree: Phrasing

'''Adam''' (Japanese: '''ワタルン''' ''Watarun'') is one of the three Club Members from the [[Fire Club]], under [[Club Master Ken]], in {{ga|Pokémon Trading Card Game}}.

==In {{ga|Pokémon Trading Card Game}}==
[[File:TCG1 Adam.png|thumb|left]]
This person challenges the player to a 4 prize card match.

Upon defeat, Adam awards the player with two {{GB|1|Colosseum}} booster packs.

==={{TCG|Flamethrower Deck}}===
{{decklist/header}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Charmander|46}}|Fire||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Charmeleon|24}}|Fire||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Charizard|4}}|Fire||Rare Holo}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Vulpix|68}}|Fire||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Ninetales|12}}|Fire||Rare Holo}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Growlithe|28}}|Fire||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Arcanine|23}}|Fire||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Magmar|36}}|Fire||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Flareon|3}}|Fire||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Eevee|51}}|Colorless||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Bill|91}}|Trainer||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Pokémon Trader|77}}|Trainer||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Energy Retrieval|81}}|Trainer||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Neo Genesis|Super Energy Retrieval|89}}|Trainer||Rare}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Switch|95}}|Trainer||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|PlusPower|84}}|Trainer||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Gust of Wind|93}}|Trainer||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|4|{{TCG|Double Colorless Energy}}|Energy|Colorless|Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|22|{{TCG|Fire Energy}}|Energy|Fire}}
{{decklist/footer}}

==In [[Pokémon Card GB2: Here Comes Team GR!]]==
===Electric Current Shock Deck===

'''Electric Current Shock Deck''' (Japanese: '''でんりゅうひばなデッキ''') is the only deck played by Adam, played as a 4 prize card match. Defeating Adam awards the player a {{GB|2|Beginning Pokémon}} booster pack.

Adam starts the game trapped in a cage with the other Fire Club members. After [[GR-3]] is defeated for the second time, he leaves the Fire Club and all members are freed. Adam can be battled immediately upon revisiting the club.

{{decklist/header}}
{{decklist/entry|4|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Vulpix|68}}|Fire||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Ninetales|12}}|Fire||Rare Holo}}
{{decklist/entry|4|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Ponyta|60}}|Fire||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Rapidash|44}}|Fire||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Fossil|Moltres|12}}|Fire||Rare Holo}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Pikachu|60}}|Lightning||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Fossil|Raichu|14}}|Lightning||Rare Holo}}
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Magnemite|53}}|Lightning||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Vending|Magneton|S2}}|Lightning||Rare}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Energy Retrieval|81}}|Trainer||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Fossil|Energy Search|59}}|Trainer||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Professor Oak|88}}|Trainer||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Switch|95}}|Trainer||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Bill|91}}|Trainer||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|16|{{TCG|Fire Energy}}|Energy|Fire|None}}
{{decklist/entry|12|{{TCG|Lightning Energy}}|Energy|Lightning|None}}
{{decklist/footer}}

{{Club Members}}
{{Project CharacterDex notice}}

{{DEFAULTSORT:Adam}}
[[Category:Male characters]]

[[de:Clubmitglied Kevin]]

Adam (TCG GB)

2018-11-21T11:04:19Z

Poppy Appletree: Incomplete sentence

'''Adam''' (Japanese: '''ワタルン''' ''Watarun'') is one of the three Club Members from the [[Fire Club]], under [[Club Master Ken]], in {{ga|Pokémon Trading Card Game}}.

==In {{ga|Pokémon Trading Card Game}}==
[[File:TCG1 Adam.png|thumb|left]]
This person challenges the player to a 4 prize card match.

Upon defeat, Adam awards the player with two {{GB|1|Colosseum}} booster packs.

==={{TCG|Flamethrower Deck}}===
{{decklist/header}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Charmander|46}}|Fire||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Charmeleon|24}}|Fire||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Charizard|4}}|Fire||Rare Holo}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Vulpix|68}}|Fire||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Ninetales|12}}|Fire||Rare Holo}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Growlithe|28}}|Fire||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Arcanine|23}}|Fire||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Magmar|36}}|Fire||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Flareon|3}}|Fire||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Eevee|51}}|Colorless||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Bill|91}}|Trainer||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Pokémon Trader|77}}|Trainer||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Energy Retrieval|81}}|Trainer||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Neo Genesis|Super Energy Retrieval|89}}|Trainer||Rare}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Switch|95}}|Trainer||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|PlusPower|84}}|Trainer||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Gust of Wind|93}}|Trainer||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|4|{{TCG|Double Colorless Energy}}|Energy|Colorless|Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|22|{{TCG|Fire Energy}}|Energy|Fire}}
{{decklist/footer}}

==In [[Pokémon Card GB2: Here Comes Team GR!]]==
===Electric Current Shock Deck===

'''Electric Current Shock Deck''' (Japanese: '''でんりゅうひばなデッキ''') is the only deck played by Adam, played as a 4 prize card match. Defeating Adam gets the player a {{GB|2|Beginning Pokémon}} booster pack.

Adam starts the game trapped in a cage with the other Fire Club members. After [[GR-3]] is defeated for the second time, he leaves the Fire Club and all members are freed. Adam can be battled immediately upon revisiting the club.

{{decklist/header}}
{{decklist/entry|4|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Vulpix|68}}|Fire||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Ninetales|12}}|Fire||Rare Holo}}
{{decklist/entry|4|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Ponyta|60}}|Fire||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Rapidash|44}}|Fire||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Fossil|Moltres|12}}|Fire||Rare Holo}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Jungle|Pikachu|60}}|Lightning||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Fossil|Raichu|14}}|Lightning||Rare Holo}}
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Magnemite|53}}|Lightning||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Vending|Magneton|S2}}|Lightning||Rare}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Energy Retrieval|81}}|Trainer||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Fossil|Energy Search|59}}|Trainer||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Professor Oak|88}}|Trainer||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Switch|95}}|Trainer||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Base Set|Bill|91}}|Trainer||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|16|{{TCG|Fire Energy}}|Energy|Fire|None}}
{{decklist/entry|12|{{TCG|Lightning Energy}}|Energy|Lightning|None}}
{{decklist/footer}}

{{Club Members}}
{{Project CharacterDex notice}}

{{DEFAULTSORT:Adam}}
[[Category:Male characters]]

[[de:Clubmitglied Kevin]]

User:Poppy Appletree

2018-11-21T11:01:04Z

Poppy Appletree:

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=About me=

I've been playing Pokémon since the release of Red and Blue, which at the time of writing is more than 20 years ago. I own all of the main series games, as well as a great number of side games. I collect Pokémon cards because I love the card art, and I have gained an appreciation for many Pokémon I'd otherwise never consider (such as Ducklett and Trubbish) due to great card art. Likewise, whilst I generally dislike Legendary/Mythical Pokémon and Ubers in general, sidegames have given me an appreciation for some of them. I also have a collection of Pokémon plushes, and I'm sad that the Gold and Silver remakes removed the ability to decorate your room with plush toys.

=Wiki philosophy=

I am a staunch inclusionist. Wikis are not paper encyclopaedias; you're not going to run out of paper anytime soon.

I used to edit extensively on Wikipedia and wrote and expanded many pages on geeky topics like Dungeons and Dragons, but got over time I became jaded with wikis due to increasing deletionism which led to purges of such content. I find it thoroughly depressing that this trend has spread to the fan wikis which were once a haven for material considered "not notable" enough for inclusion on Wikipedia.

I view trivia as an extremely important part of Bulbapedia - it's honestly one of the main things that draws me to the website. I see attempts to excise trivia sections as destroying Bulbapedia's soul, and adamantly oppose the introduction of a "no trivia" policy. This website exists because of fans of the Pokémon series, and a large amount of content within the Pokémon games is a result of the creators interacting with their fans. Fandoms are at their heart a discourse between creator and consumer, and I view trying to exclude aspects which pertain to fandom as degrading to the project. Ultimately, the wiki isn't about the Pokémon
franchise. It is about ''our relationship'' with a franchise that is extremely dear to us all.

User:Poppy Appletree

2018-11-20T16:56:59Z

Poppy Appletree:

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=About me=

I've been playing Pokémon since the release of Red and Blue, which at the time of writing is more than 20 years ago. I own all of the main series games, as well as a great number of side games. I collect Pokémon cards because I love the card art, and I have gained an appreciation for many Pokémon I'd otherwise never consider (such as Ducklett and Trubbish) due to great card art. Likewise, whilst I generally dislike Legendary/Mythical Pokémon and Ubers in general, sidegames have given me an appreciation for some of them. I also have a collection of Pokémon plushes, and I'm sad that the Gold and Silver remakes removed the ability to decorate your room with plush toys.

=Wiki philosophy=

I am a staunch inclusionist. Wikis are not paper encyclopaedias; you're not going to run out of paper anytime soon.

I used to edit extensively on Wikipedia and wrote and expanded many pages on geeky topics like Dungeons and Dragons, but got over time I became jaded with wikis due to increasing deletionism which led to purges of such content. I find it thoroughly depressing that this trend has spread to the fan wikis which were once a haven for material considered "not notable" enough for inclusion on Wikipedia.

I view trivia as an extremely important part of Bulbapedia - it's honestly one of the main things that draws me to the website. I see attempts to excise trivia sections as destroying Bulbapedia's soul, and adamantly oppose the introduction of a "no trivia" policy. This website exists because of fans of the Pokémon series, and a large amount of content within the Pokémon games is a result of the creators interacting with their fans. Fandoms are at their heart a discourse between creator and consumer, and I view trying to exclude aspects which pertain to fandom as degrading to the project. Ultimately, the wiki isn't about the Pokémon
franchise. It is about ''our relationship'' with a franchise that is extremely dear to us all.

User:Poppy Appletree

2018-11-20T16:19:54Z

Poppy Appletree:

=About me=

I've been playing Pokémon since the release of Red and Blue, which at the time of writing is more than 20 years ago. I own all of the main series games, as well as a great number of side games. I collect Pokémon cards because I love the card art, and I have gained an appreciation for many Pokémon I'd otherwise never consider (such as Ducklett and Trubbish) due to great card art. Likewise, whilst I generally dislike Legendary/Mythical Pokémon and Ubers in general, sidegames have given me an appreciation for some of them. I also have a collection of Pokémon plushes, and I'm sad that the Gold and Silver remakes removed the ability to decorate your room with plush toys.

=Wiki philosophy=

I am a staunch inclusionist. Wikis are not paper encyclopaedias; you're not going to run out of paper anytime soon.

I used to edit extensively on Wikipedia and wrote and expanded many pages on geeky topics like Dungeons and Dragons, but got over time I became jaded with wikis due to increasing deletionism which led to purges of such content. I find it thoroughly depressing that this trend has spread to the fan wikis which were once a haven for material considered "not notable" enough for inclusion on Wikipedia.

I view trivia as an extremely important part of Bulbapedia - it's honestly one of the main things that draws me to the website. I see attempts to excise trivia sections as destroying Bulbapedia's soul, and adamantly oppose the introduction of a "no trivia" policy. This website exists because of fans of the Pokémon series, and a large amount of content within the Pokémon games is a result of the creators interacting with their fans. Fandoms are at their heart a discourse between creator and consumer, and I view trying to exclude aspects which pertain to fandom as degrading to the project. Ultimately, the wiki isn't about the Pokémon franchise. It is about ''our relationship'' with a franchise that is extremely dear to us all.

User talk:Poppy Appletree

2018-11-20T15:47:14Z

Poppy Appletree: /* Edit Warring */

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== Battle Videos ==

25-92783-94490 --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy Appletree]] 16:17, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

== Link templates ==

[[LLT|Use them.]]----'''''無限の知性''''' ◎ [[User:Dennou Zenshi|ＤＥＮＮＯＵ]]'''[[Special:Random|◆]]'''[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|ＺＥＮＳＨＩ]] 16:38, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

== Edit Warring ==
Please do not revert or add back information that was removed, it constitutes as [[edit warring]] and is a blockable offense. If you have a problem with an edit, take it up to the talk page of the disputed article or the user that reverted you. Thank you. --[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 14:47, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
:: ''You'' are the one edit warring. I have sought discussion at all points and provided documentation to support my case, whereas you have ignored this in favour of your own opinion. Suffice to say, I think your actions are extremely inappropriate. You are exactly the type of person who should not be given power, and the reason I rarely edit wikis these days. I have contacted Dennou and Kogoro for comment and oversight. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 14:58, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
::: Please remove this comment from my page, or I will. As you are participating in an edit war, it is a conflict of interest and abuse of power for you to issue a warning to the person you are warring with. I have consistently sought dialogue, so to suggest that I have not already taken the actions you suggest is simply insulting. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 15:16, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
:::: Read the {{bp|Talk page policy}}. You '''cannot''' removed talk page comments. And as a matter of fact, you did edit war. You added it, it got removed by Finnish. Added it back again, I removed it. You then added it again after I took a while to respond. Is that not edit warring?.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 15:29, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
::::: That's rich, given that you removed ''my'' talk page comments. Please excuse yourself from this matter and let someone else handle it. --Poppy Appletree 15:31, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
::::: Additionally, you have entirely ignored the substance of my correspondence with Finnish. We successfully resolved our edit dispute without admin input and I offered discourse and civility at all points. You then came in and began engaging in unilateral action without discussion. You have directed personal attacks towards me and issued warnings for things which you yourself are guilty, whilst I have (despite my frustration with your actions) provided documentation to support my position. --Poppy Appletree 15:47, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

== Learn some patience ==

Rather than going around and spamming every other staff member's talk page, you can actually wait for me or someone else to respond. Spamming other staff member's talk pages just because I take a while to respond doesn't help you. Just wait a few minutes.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 14:59, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
: I will not tolerate personal attacks, thank you. I am not "spamming" their pages, I am seeking alternative opinions because you are behaving inappropriately. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 15:01, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
:: Also, by a "few minutes" do you mean more than 20? That is hardly a reasonable amount of time to wait for a person to provide an explanation for their actions - perhaps you should learn to use edit summaries instead of using default revert comments? --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 15:02, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

Talk:Sea Cottage

2018-11-20T15:36:22Z

Poppy Appletree: /* Inclusion of Bill's Secret Garden rumour */

==Merge with Sea Cottage and Bill's Lighthouse?==

Cerulean Cape and Sea Cottage are both stub articles. Bill's Lighthouse, while not a stub, is still quite short. All three deal with essentially the same material, though Bill's Lighthouse is only in the Anime, while the Sea Cottage is in the games and other canon. I think the three articles should be merge to flesh out one larger, better article that deals with Cerulean Cape and it's landmark of the Sea Cottage/Lighthouse as a whole rather than split into three small articles. [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 14:51, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
:I agree. [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 13:55, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
::I brought it up {{red link|Talk:Sea Cottage|here}} and I'm going to do it again. I agree as well.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 14:02, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
:::I agree merging Sea Cottage with this one, but not sure of Bill's Lighthouse. We have tons of anime-exclusive location, so that one might belong to those. '''►[[User:Kevzo8|Ҝə]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|υz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|ø8]]''' 14:15, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
::::I'll Do this now. But what should we call it?--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 14:16, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::Cerulean Cape is fine. Just, um, redirect the old page to the new one next time you merge something :D — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 05:35, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::Yep. Got a bit into a edit war with that, but I added info to thee pages. :D--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 05:50, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

==Merge with Cerulean Cape and Bill's Lighthouse?==

Cerulean Cape and Sea Cottage are both stub articles. Bill's Lighthouse, while not a stub, is still quite short. All three deal with essentially the same material, though Bill's Lighthouse is only in the Anime, while the Sea Cottage is in the games and other canon. I think the three articles should be merge to flesh out one larger, better article that deals with Cerulean Cape and it's landmark of the Sea Cottage/Lighthouse as a whole rather than split into three small articles. [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 14:51, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
:I am going to bring this up again. Satosuke makes a valid point, [[Bill's Lighthouse]] and Sea Cottage are both very short articles.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 13:32, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
::The main discussion for this topic is located [[Talk:Sea Cottage#Merge with Sea Cottage and Bill's Lighthouse?|here]]. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 05:35, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

== Bill's Grandpa ==

Okay, so I've shown Bill's grandpa all the pokemon he asks to see (in HGSS). Here's the list of pokemon and the stones you get in return:
* Lickitung - Everstone
* Oddish - Leaf Stone
* Staryu - Water Stone
* Vulpix - Fire Stone (in SS, possibly Growlithe in HG)
* Pichu - Thunderstone
Is this information worth including in this article? --[[User:Oatzy|Oatzy]] 22:04, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
:I had to show him a Jigglypuff to get an Everstone, not a Lickitung. Could it be because we're playing different versions? I'm using HeartGold. --[[User:Paranoid Trainer|Paranoid Trainer]] 23:30, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
::Yeah, probably is. I'm playing SoulSilver. Do you know if any of the others different?
:::Well, Oddish and Pichu are definitely correct, and your Growlithe guess was on the money, but instead of a Staryu I'm being asked for a Marill. Or at least, the description matches Marill perfectly (round and blue, with a white belly and a floating tail end), but since I don't have one yet I can't confirm it yet. --[[User:Paranoid Trainer|Paranoid Trainer]] 00:05, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
::::Sounds about right, yeah. What was the order he asked to see them in?--[[User:Oatzy|Oatzy]] 13:46, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
:I have HeartGold, and can confirm that he asks for the Oddish first. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 15:06, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
::I just confirmed Marill in HG. Oddish was first for me as well, followed by either Jigglypuff and Growlithe, and then the other. Sadly I can't recall with of them was second and which was third, but I'm almost certain Pichu was the 4th and Marill was definitely the last. --[[User:Paranoid Trainer|Paranoid Trainer]] 01:46, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
:::Haven't gotten the Water Stone part yet, but in HG for me, it was Oddish, Growlithe, Jigglypuff, Pichu. [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 17:47, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

== SS Anne ticket ==
Shouldn't this item be on the item list for R/B/Y and FR/LG? [[User:Moltres93|Moltres93]] 10:22, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

== Inclusion of Bill's Secret Garden rumour ==

I have added a section regarding the Bill's Secret Garden rumour. This is one of the most infamous rumours in Pokémon history, on par with [[the truck]] and [[Mewthree]], and I believe this should remain in the article. To this day articles are written about this - see the following links: [https://www.gamesradar.com/uk/rumors-everyone-believed-about-pokemon/] [https://www.techradar.com/uk/news/gaming/gotta-debunk-em-all-the-pokemon-rumors-and-urban-legends-we-all-fell-for-1315898] [https://www.thegamer.com/pokemon-areas-that-are-impossible-to-find-and-how-to-find-them/][https://www.thegamer.com/pokemon-areas-that-are-impossible-to-find-and-how-to-find-them/]. I genuinely think it cheapens the wiki not to mention the existence of this rumour, especially when it was seemingly referenced in the Generation IV games with the [[Trophy Garden]], similar to how the truck had a hidden [[lava cookie]] added as a nod to the rumours in FRLG. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 12:53, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
:All those sites are clickbait sites on par with buzzfeed and does not make it "infamous". The Mew rumor is the most well known rumor of the three, while Mewthree is part of the Fakemon article, so I treat that as talking about "Mewthree the fakemon" and not "Mewthree the rumor". The "Secret Garden" is just not as well known as the other two.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 13:49, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
:: Since you seem keen to ignore how widespread and well-known this rumour is, I have compiled a (non-exhaustive) mentions of the rumour, which you can see below. Several of these include people ''still'' spreading the rumour more than 20 years later, so it's almost negligent not to mention it on the ''premier Pokémon wiki''.

::You can call literally anything clickbait these days because the standard of news has degraded exceptionally, but I'm honestly not sure what you're expecting with regards to Pokémon. Most traditional news sources give incorrect details about Pokémon anyway because they don't care enough to cover it properly. A bunch of those sites which have posted articles (TechRadar, GamesRadar, Syfy, Screenrant, Den of Geek, Destructoid) are very well-known sites. With the combination of those articles you would pass ''Wikipedia's'' notability standards, and they have come down hard on this kind of thing.

::The Bill's Secret Garden is notorious, long-lived, well-documented, and ''still being spread to this day''. It is notable enough for this wiki, and that will be the case regardless of what you say, because your opinion on this matter is blatantly counterfactual. As such, I am reversing your removal of the Secret Garden rumour. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 14:31, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
::[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Sea_Cottage&diff=prev&oldid=2883550 Sources].
:::Firstly, please do just add back the information without a consensus. Wait until this discussion has reached a conclusion. Don't just add it back.
:::Secondly, all your "evidence" isn't reliable. Especially fan related stuff... so everything but the articles. And the articles, like I said, are clickbait stuff like "ooooh, the ten thing you didn't know about Pokemon ooooh". Those articles are not reliable at all, they are opinion pieces. They may be acceptable on Wikipedia, though I don't think they are, but we are not Wikipedia. Just because we're both wikis doesn't mean we share the same rules and standards.
:::Thirdly, The mew rumor is far more notorious and popular than the sea cottage rumor. It has also been blatantly referenced in the games. The sea cottage rumor is just as minor as the Lavender town rumor.-[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 14:56, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

:::: Please be aware that I consider it inapppropriate for you to have removed the sources that I posted, especially as doing so supports your own position. It is a serious breach of wiki etiquette to remove another person's comments. Relegating the information to a link which could easily be missed vastly minimises the extent of discussion that the rumour has generated. If you have concerns about length there are better ways to deal with that, and archives ''do'' exist to clean up discussions. I cannot fairly have a discussion with a person who abuses their role to issue warnings to people who disagree with them when they themselves are the offending party. As such, I would politely request that you recuse yourself from this matter due to your conflict of interest, and allow another admin to comment instead. --Poppy Appletree 15:29, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

::::: As you yourself have confirmed your own violation of the talk page policy, I am restoring the list of sources I posted below. --Poppy Appletree 15:36, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

===Articles===

https://www.complex.com/pop-culture/2013/01/the-10-most-bizarre-schoolyard-pokmon-rumors/bills-gardenmountainforrest

https://www.grunge.com/32359/false-facts-pokemon-always-thought-true/

http://aribaa.com/2018/01/surfing-glitch-pokemon-red-blue/

https://www.techradar.com/uk/news/gaming/gotta-debunk-em-all-the-pokemon-rumors-and-urban-legends-we-all-fell-for-1315898

https://www.gamesradar.com/uk/rumors-everyone-believed-about-pokemon/

https://www.thegamer.com/pokemon-areas-that-are-impossible-to-find-and-how-to-find-them/

https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/fact-theres-a-lost-original-pokemon-game-that-americans-never-played

https://screenrant.com/pokemon-gold-silver-hidden-locations/

http://www.oldandnewtoys.com/our-blog/the-best-forgotten-pokemon-urban-legends

https://cinemashelf.com/theory-raider-1-pokemon-red-blue/

https://skirmishfrogs.com/2016/03/04/pokemon-day-week-7-top-myths-from-gen-1/

https://www.denofgeek.com/us/games/pok-mon/258818/chasing-mew-how-the-world-became-obsessed-with-pokemon

https://www.poke-blast-news.net/2015/09/5-mitos-sobre-pokemon-nos-quais-voce.html

https://www.giantbomb.com/pokemon-redblue/3030-3966/

http://www.syfygames.com/news/article/exploring-the-weird-world-of-pokmon-urban-legend-jessicafamularo

https://twinfinite.net/2016/02/10-pokemon-red-and-blue-myths-you-probably-fell-for/

===Fansites===

http://pokegods.wikia.com/wiki/Bill%27s_Secret_Garden

http://gaming-urban-legends.wikia.com/wiki/Bill%27s_Secret_Garden

https://glitchcity.info/wiki/Surf_down_glitch

https://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~jdonald/pokemon/ssanne.html

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/UrbanLegendOfZelda/Pokemon

http://en.illogicopedia.org/wiki/Pokemon_cheats

https://www.facebook.com/BillsSecretGarden

http://floatzel.net/pokemon/pokemon_rumors.htm

http://www.rigelatin.net/copycat/games/mewrumors.php

https://aminoapps.com/c/pokemon/page/blog/myths-behind-the-glitches-part-2/Mjhk_uadKjrb61WngqZ6nnN13Vxw4p

http://harveststone.tripod.com/homepage_console/rumors.htm

http://editthis.info/fake_cheats/Pokemon#Bill.27s_secret_garden

https://cheatcodesnow.ise.com.bd/cheat-guide/faq-3-pokemon-yellow-gameboy-53125/

===Discussion topics===

https://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=138709

http://arvee3zy.tumblr.com/post/11342420988/bills-secret-garden

http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/3298/t636831-bills-secret-garden/

https://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=151782

https://www.reddit.com/r/twitchplayspokemon/comments/48hm5c/could_someone_clarify_on_bill_secret_garden/

https://www.supercheats.com/gameboyadvance/questions/pokemonleafgreen/200566/is-it-possible-to-get-all-3-le.htm

http://www.answers.com/Q/How_do_you_get_to_bills_secret_garden_in_Pokemon_fire_red

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090807160420AAEfL2y&guccounter=1

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/22699-13-frlg-celio-phrases

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/907714-pokemon-blue-version/46871149

https://omggirlsgame.wordpress.com/tag/pokemon-red-rumor/

http://forums.pokemontcg.com/topic/12690-pok%C3%A9mon-memes/

http://boards.4chan.org/vp/thread/37022107/dumbshit-rumors-you-belived-as-a-kid

https://www.destructoid.com/experience-points-28-pokemon-red-blue-325884.phtml

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/rttp-the-pokemon-all-721-of-them-and-counting.1120680/page-65

https://forums.serebii.net/threads/the-worst-and-the-best-old-pokemon-1st-gen-rumors.430057/

https://www.math.miami.edu/~jam/azure/forum/buzz/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=4;t=000256;p=

https://animesuperhero.com/forums/threads/legit-way-to-get-mew-in-pokemon-blue-red-yellow.3337661/

http://www.cheatsguru.com/nds/pokemon_soul_silver/questions/2153368/

https://twitter.com/pokemon/status/917812373255110656?lang=en

https://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.201136-Fake-game-rumors-from-the-past?page=3

https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/history-of-pok%C3%A9mon-fan-speculation.3607682/

===Videos===

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrhdZVN1qT4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfWPy4JXCtk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4A8YUZQK30

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6E9mZrkSg8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cONW--1dVo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62Pl6OIUSTM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C57tp5DmCk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRnaaGCdP-8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdhEtMsn1ug

===Artwork and stories===

https://www.deviantart.com/bluespeon/art/Bill-s-Secret-Garden-Magazine-606852169

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/8024317/1/Bill-s-Secret-Garden

https://www.deviantart.com/ibolrock/art/Bill-s-Secret-Garden-186768405

http://www.nerdragecomic.com/index.php?date=2013-11-22

http://fyeahpokemoncreepypasta.tumblr.com/post/19400092319/leaf-green-beta

https://memegenerator.net/instance/57825682/pokemon-kid-help-me-find-bills-secret-garden-hell-give-me-mewthree

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== Your talk archive ==

I'd like to point out that there are multiple unresolved concerns presented at [[User talk:Kogoro/8#Template:MoveInfobox]]. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 09:34, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

== Usage of the word "native" ==

Hello. I noticed that you and the other chiefs of staff have ruled that the term "natives" should absolutely not be used on the "Biology" section of the {{p|Raichu}} article, and I was redirected to you by {{U|Abcboy}} for further discussion on the matter. It was an issue that {{U|PardescanSlowbro}} raised out of concerns that the word is inherently offensive and incidentally racist to people of indigenous descent, a viewpoint that I and {{U|Force Fire}} highly disagreed with because the word was being used in an entirely non-offensive context. I'm not going to argue against your ruling because you all apparently reached this ruling with a reasoning that had nothing to do with concerns of incidental racism. But I am now curious as to whether your ruling will apply to all other articles that use the word "native(s)" in some way or form, or even phrases like "native to" or something along those lines. I hope it won't, because I feel doing so would be a silly overreaction, but I digress.

Hope to hear from you about the matter soon. Thanks! [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 05:10, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

== Why is Shipping allowed? ==

Hello Kogoro, I was wondering, why is shipping allowed on this encyclopedia? There is almost no fact behind it, a lot of the time it claims that "shippers" have noticed something that suggests that 10 year olds should be in a relationship, but never cites it. Why not just have one article that merely acknowledgeds its existence but doesn't promote fan theories that should be left on web fourms. If this speculation is allowed then many other fan theories should be by this logic be allowed.[[User:Great Bear|Great Bear]] ([[User talk:Great Bear|talk]]) 23:47, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

== [[Sea Cottage]] Bill's Secret Garden rumours - edit war with ForceFire ==

Hi Kogoro. I recently added information regarding the Bill's Secret Garden rumour to the [[Sea Cottage]] page, one of the most notorious Pokémon rumours of all time. After doing so, ForceFire removed it without adequate discussion, claiming that it lacked appropriate notability. I have provided a wealth of sources on the talk page attesting to the spread and notoriety of the rumour, including many well-known sites which compare the Secret Garden rumour to [[the truck]] and [[Mewthree]]. I requested a second opinion from Dennou as I felt ForceFire was behaving in an authoritarian manner, but I'm now contacting you because ForceFire is continuing to remove this information without engaging in discussion. I find this deeply troubling, as this disregard for regular users and rejection of accountability is bound to have a negative effect on the wiki as a whole. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 14:54, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
: As a follow-up, ForceFire has inappropriately issued a warning for edit warring, despite it being him who is engaging in edit warring. I have at all points sought discussion, whereas he has ignored my comments and provided extremely tardy accounts for his actions. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 15:00, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
:: Additionally, ForceFire has removed the evidence I have provided on the talk page for the [[Sea Cottage]] page, contrary to the talk page policy. I believe it would be appropriate for him to recuse himself from this matter. --Poppy Appletree 15:32, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

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== Edit Warring ==
Please do not revert or add back information that was removed, it constitutes as [[edit warring]] and is a blockable offense. If you have a problem with an edit, take it up to the talk page of the disputed article or the user that reverted you. Thank you. --[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 14:47, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
:: ''You'' are the one edit warring. I have sought discussion at all points and provided documentation to support my case, whereas you have ignored this in favour of your own opinion. Suffice to say, I think your actions are extremely inappropriate. You are exactly the type of person who should not be given power, and the reason I rarely edit wikis these days. I have contacted Dennou and Kogoro for comment and oversight. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 14:58, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
::: Please remove this comment from my page, or I will. As you are participating in an edit war, it is a conflict of interest and abuse of power for you to issue a warning to the person you are warring with. I have consistently sought dialogue, so to suggest that I have not already taken the actions you suggest is simply insulting. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 15:16, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
:::: Read the {{bp|Talk page policy}}. You '''cannot''' removed talk page comments. And as a matter of fact, you did edit war. You added it, it got removed by Finnish. Added it back again, I removed it. You then added it again after I took a while to respond. Is that not edit warring?.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 15:29, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
::::: That's rich, given that you removed ''my'' talk page comments. Please excuse yourself from this matter and let someone else handle it. --Poppy Appletree 15:31, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

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Rather than going around and spamming every other staff member's talk page, you can actually wait for me or someone else to respond. Spamming other staff member's talk pages just because I take a while to respond doesn't help you. Just wait a few minutes.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 14:59, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
: I will not tolerate personal attacks, thank you. I am not "spamming" their pages, I am seeking alternative opinions because you are behaving inappropriately. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 15:01, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
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== Battle Videos ==

25-92783-94490 --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy Appletree]] 16:17, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

== Link templates ==

[[LLT|Use them.]]----'''''無限の知性''''' ◎ [[User:Dennou Zenshi|ＤＥＮＮＯＵ]]'''[[Special:Random|◆]]'''[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|ＺＥＮＳＨＩ]] 16:38, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

== Edit Warring ==
Please do not revert or add back information that was removed, it constitutes as [[edit warring]] and is a blockable offense. If you have a problem with an edit, take it up to the talk page of the disputed article or the user that reverted you. Thank you. --[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 14:47, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
:: ''You'' are the one edit warring. I have sought discussion at all points and provided documentation to support my case, whereas you have ignored this in favour of your own opinion. Suffice to say, I think your actions are extremely inappropriate. You are exactly the type of person who should not be given power, and the reason I rarely edit wikis these days. I have contacted Dennou and Kogoro for comment and oversight. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 14:58, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
::: Please remove this comment from my page, or I will. As you are participating in an edit war, it is a conflict of interest and abuse of power for you to issue a warning to the person you are warring with. I have consistently sought dialogue, so to suggest that I have not already taken the actions you suggest is simply insulting. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 15:16, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

== Learn some patience ==

Rather than going around and spamming every other staff member's talk page, you can actually wait for me or someone else to respond. Spamming other staff member's talk pages just because I take a while to respond doesn't help you. Just wait a few minutes.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 14:59, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
: I will not tolerate personal attacks, thank you. I am not "spamming" their pages, I am seeking alternative opinions because you are behaving inappropriately. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 15:01, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
:: Also, by a "few minutes" do you mean more than 20? That is hardly a reasonable amount of time to wait for a person to provide an explanation for their actions - perhaps you should learn to use edit summaries instead of using default revert comments? --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 15:02, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

User talk:Poppy Appletree

2018-11-20T15:16:31Z

Poppy Appletree: /* Edit Warring */

==Welcome==
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== Battle Videos ==

25-92783-94490 --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy Appletree]] 16:17, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

== Link templates ==

[[LLT|Use them.]]----'''''無限の知性''''' ◎ [[User:Dennou Zenshi|ＤＥＮＮＯＵ]]'''[[Special:Random|◆]]'''[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|ＺＥＮＳＨＩ]] 16:38, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

== Edit Warring ==
Please do not revert or add back information that was removed, it constitutes as [[edit warring]] and is a blockable offense. If you have a problem with an edit, take it up to the talk page of the disputed article or the user that reverted you. Thank you. --[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 14:47, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
:: ''You'' are the one edit warring. I have sought discussion at all points and provided documentation to support my case, whereas you have ignored this in favour of your own opinion. Suffice to say, I think your actions are extremely inappropriate. You are exactly the type of person who should not be given power, and the reason I rarely edit wikis these days. I have contacted Dennou and Kogoro for comment and oversight. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 14:58, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
::: Please remove this comment from my page, or I will. As you are participating in an edit war, it is a conflict of interest and abuse of power for you to issue a warning to the person you are warring with. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 15:16, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

== Learn some patience ==

Rather than going around and spamming every other staff member's talk page, you can actually wait for me or someone else to respond. Spamming other staff member's talk pages just because I take a while to respond doesn't help you. Just wait a few minutes.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 14:59, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
: I will not tolerate personal attacks, thank you. I am not "spamming" their pages, I am seeking alternative opinions because you are behaving inappropriately. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 15:01, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
:: Also, by a "few minutes" do you mean more than 20? That is hardly a reasonable amount of time to wait for a person to provide an explanation for their actions - perhaps you should learn to use edit summaries instead of using default revert comments? --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 15:02, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

User talk:Poppy Appletree

2018-11-20T15:02:54Z

Poppy Appletree: /* Learn some patience */

==Welcome==
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The Manual of Style, or MoS, outlines the format of all pages on Bulbapedia.
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== Battle Videos ==

25-92783-94490 --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy Appletree]] 16:17, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

== Link templates ==

[[LLT|Use them.]]----'''''無限の知性''''' ◎ [[User:Dennou Zenshi|ＤＥＮＮＯＵ]]'''[[Special:Random|◆]]'''[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|ＺＥＮＳＨＩ]] 16:38, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

== Edit Warring ==
Please do not revert or add back information that was removed, it constitutes as [[edit warring]] and is a blockable offense. If you have a problem with an edit, take it up to the talk page of the disputed article or the user that reverted you. Thank you. --[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 14:47, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
:: ''You'' are the one edit warring. I have sought discussion at all points and provided documentation to support my case, whereas you have ignored this in favour of your own opinion. Suffice to say, I think your actions are extremely inappropriate. You are exactly the type of person who should not be given power, and the reason I rarely edit wikis these days. I have contacted Dennou and Kogoro for comment and oversight. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 14:58, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

== Learn some patience ==

Rather than going around and spamming every other staff member's talk page, you can actually wait for me or someone else to respond. Spamming other staff member's talk pages just because I take a while to respond doesn't help you. Just wait a few minutes.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 14:59, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
: I will not tolerate personal attacks, thank you. I am not "spamming" their pages, I am seeking alternative opinions because you are behaving inappropriately. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 15:01, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
:: Also, by a "few minutes" do you mean more than 20? That is hardly a reasonable amount of time to wait for a person to provide an explanation for their actions - perhaps you should learn to use edit summaries instead of using default revert comments? --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 15:02, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

User talk:Poppy Appletree

2018-11-20T15:01:32Z

Poppy Appletree: /* Learn some patience */

==Welcome==
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The Manual of Style, or MoS, outlines the format of all pages on Bulbapedia.
</div>
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On Bulbapedia, the ability to edit personal userpages is a privilege. Per our userpage policy, this must be earned by first making constructive edits to the {{bp|mainspace}}. Once you can, remember to keep userspace edits (edits to User:Poppy Appletree) to a minimum.
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== Battle Videos ==

25-92783-94490 --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy Appletree]] 16:17, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

== Link templates ==

[[LLT|Use them.]]----'''''無限の知性''''' ◎ [[User:Dennou Zenshi|ＤＥＮＮＯＵ]]'''[[Special:Random|◆]]'''[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|ＺＥＮＳＨＩ]] 16:38, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

== Edit Warring ==
Please do not revert or add back information that was removed, it constitutes as [[edit warring]] and is a blockable offense. If you have a problem with an edit, take it up to the talk page of the disputed article or the user that reverted you. Thank you. --[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 14:47, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
:: ''You'' are the one edit warring. I have sought discussion at all points and provided documentation to support my case, whereas you have ignored this in favour of your own opinion. Suffice to say, I think your actions are extremely inappropriate. You are exactly the type of person who should not be given power, and the reason I rarely edit wikis these days. I have contacted Dennou and Kogoro for comment and oversight. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 14:58, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

== Learn some patience ==

Rather than going around and spamming every other staff member's talk page, you can actually wait for me or someone else to respond. Spamming other staff member's talk pages just because I take a while to respond doesn't help you. Just wait a few minutes.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 14:59, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
: I will not tolerate personal attacks, thank you. I am not "spamming" their pages, I am seeking alternative opinions because you are behaving inappropriately. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 15:01, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

User talk:Kogoro

2018-11-20T15:00:34Z

Poppy Appletree:

User talk:Poppy Appletree

2018-11-20T14:58:34Z

Poppy Appletree: /* Edit Warring */

User talk:Kogoro

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Poppy Appletree: /* Sea Cottage Bill's Secret Garden rumours - edit war with ForceFire */ new section

User talk:Dennou Zenshi

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Poppy Appletree: /* Sea Cottage Bill's Secret Garden rumours */ new section

{{User:Dennou Zenshi/talk|User talk:Dennou Zenshi}}

== Trouble with [[Hidden Grotto]] page ==

{{u|Lady Ariel}} is [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Hidden_Grotto&diff=2049933&oldid=2049908 showing] herself [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Hidden_Grotto&diff=2050166&oldid=2049989 determined] to undo my fixes for the roundy bits of the table in the [[Hidden Grotto#Items in each Hidden Grotto|Items in each Hidden Grotto]] section on the [[Hidden Grotto]] page. (I also forgot that other tables on that page need the same fixes, but I'd expect to encounter the same resistance if I try to fix those right now.) Without the changes I made, the roundy templates ([[Template:roundytl]], etc.) end up having ''no effect'' whatsoever on the table; you can take out those templates/styles and the table looks exactly the same. In order for them to work, the row cannot have a background color style, and the cells must each have it instead. If you look carefully at the tables in the [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Hidden_Grotto&oldid=2050166#Items_in_each_Hidden_Grotto before] and [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Hidden_Grotto&oldid=2049989#Items_in_each_Hidden_Grotto after] revisions, you can see that the corners are actually round in the before version with my edits.

Can you impress on Lady Ariel that she has no call to undo those fixes of mine? ...Or am I somehow not as right as I think? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:20, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
:Looks like you're right there. Your version is visually the correct one, and it's not like the extra ~250 bytes cause some issues. So I think you can add it back. If Ariel still disagrees, she should take part in the discussion.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 17:39, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
::The corners are identical in both versions (using Safari and Chrome). It is possible to have the background color set for the entire row and have rounded corners for individual cells. In addition I changed the color scheme of the tables. The actual edit I just did is [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Hidden_Grotto&oldid=2050253 here], which makes the table borders less blocky (similar background and border colors in the old versions) and removes unnecessary coding. Also the way I re-coded those few cells is how a majority of tables are coded on Bulbapedia. Should I take pictures of the corners of the cells and provide them or should it be reverted to my recent edit? '''[[User:Lady Ariel|Lady]] [[User talk:Lady Ariel|Ariel]]''' 19:26, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
:::Looking at your revision in Chromium, I now see why you've been undoing my changes. The problem is, in Firefox, my changes actually ''do'' change the way the tables display.
:::As I mentioned when I reverted it, you're entirely welcome to redo any of the changes that don't affect the roundy fixes (as above: each cell in a roundy row has to have its own background color, and the row cannot have a background color); I just didn't have the patience to sort out your new changes from the roundy stuff myself, or redo the roundy stuff. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 19:38, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
::::It is like to the colspan issue with tables, which is caused when a table has a number set for colspan that is greater than the number of columns some browsers display a gap and others don't. I will go ahead and change the tables then (leaving the roundy now that we know it is a browser issue). However, finding the countless number of tables that use the coding I used on the Hidden Grotto page won't be easy. '''[[User:Lady Ariel|Lady]] [[User talk:Lady Ariel|Ariel]]''' 19:55, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
:::::If you mean finding those "countless numbers of tables" to fix the roundy stuff, I don't expect to or even intend to try. I just fix whatever I happen to notice (and manage to care about that moment). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 20:10, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
::::::Having a "countless{{tt|*|everything on the wiki is countable}}" number of things to fix isn't supposed to be a deterrent from completing a task that need to be finished. It is ''more'' a reason to change something you see is wrong when you see it, because otherwise, it may not be found again for a long while. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 21:06, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

== Page without category ==

Since a user has created a page about roller-shake tricks, will you either add a category or delete the page? [[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ''([[User talk:Cinday123|Talk]])'' 02:05, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

== Shared species into mainspace ==

Can I get permission to move {{u|Relicant/List of Pokémon with shared species names‎|this sub page of an user}} into the mainspace or you do it for it? --[[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ''([[User talk:Cinday123|Talk]])'' 09:13, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
:It's not just up to me. It should be discussed [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/f195/candidates-merging-moving-mainspacing-splitting-discussion-thread-114138/ here] first.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 12:42, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

==Silcoon and Cascoon==
Both of them having the same base stats, type, learnset and Ability all seem rather obvious with them being counterparts in the same evolutionary family. Metapod and Kakuna also have the same base stat total, learnset and Ability (and share at least ''one'' type, since Kakuna is dual Bug/Poison). Seems to me, the trivia should be combined, but with the shared species trivia being uniform throughout all the species' pages, I'm not sure if it should be merged, a separate trivia point, or a subsequent trivia point. What say you? [[User:Glik|Glik]] ([[User talk:Glik|talk]]) 15:06, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
:It's not that obvious considering that ''Beautifly and Dustox'' don't have ''any'' of those similarities. The species name should stay separate since Silcoon and Cascoon have ''more'' in common with each other than with Metapod or Kakuna.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 17:02, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

== Absol ==

Umm...Do you also think that this does not fit [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Absol_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29&diff=2076439&oldid=2076429 here] as it was undone by user Glik, I personally think that this trivia is ABSOLutely correct. {{unsigned|Viv}}
:Almost every Pokémon with Super Luck can do the same thing. It's correct, but not notable.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 15:46, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
::Okay, got it!.--[[User:Viv|Viv]] ([[User talk:Viv|talk]]) 12:26, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

== Edit Block ==

I was wondering if the amount of time on the ban increases with each consecutive ban?

Also on the ban notice it tells me to write on your page to discuss the ban with you, but isn't that redundent since I can't edit/talk on your page while I'm banned? I had to wait till the ban was over, but I just joined today so I'm probably just missing something! I look forward to hearing back from you.

[[User:Nicodeamus|Nicodeamus]] ([[User talk:Nicodeamus|talk]]) 19:34, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Thank you so much for clearing that up for me, I can't believe I overlooked the Gen used in the Learnsets. I appreciate your timely response and I'm correcting my errors now.

[[User:Nicodeamus|Nicodeamus]] ([[User talk:Nicodeamus|talk]]) 20:09, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

== Diancie's stats ==

I saw Diancie's stats in [http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-xy/719.shtml here] (on the lowermost part of the page). Can I write them on Diancie's page? --[[User:Blinx9999guizar|Blinx9999guizar]] ([[User talk:Blinx9999guizar|talk]]) 23:26, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
:Serebii (or other fansites) should never be used as a source. If you can get a Diancie yourself and determine its base stats reliably, then they can be added.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 23:30, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
::Then OK, I guess... --[[User:Blinx9999guizar|Blinx9999guizar]] ([[User talk:Blinx9999guizar|talk]]) 23:41, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

== Fur Coat and Psyshock ==

As we know, Furfrou's signature Ability, {{a|Fur Coat}}, halves the damage taken from Physical moves. But there seems to be a little confusion at the page does this affect the damage taken from Special moves that inflict Physical damage, such as {{m|Psyshock}} and {{m|Secret Sword}}. I don't know the answer myself, nor am I able to research it effectively, so I decided to ask someone else, and since I trust you as a fellow Bulbapedia user and Finn, I decided to try and ask you if you know the answer. If not, that's fine. I'll just have to ask someone else in that case. Whichever way it goes, thank you in advance. :) --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 15:10, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

== Wonder Guard blocks OHKOs?? ==

I'm rather skeptical that the Wonder Guard Ability actually blocks OHKOs just like Sturdy does. I'm under the impression that the only reason OHKOs don't work on Shedinja is because Shedinja simply isn't weak to any of Normal, Ground, or Ice. To test this, it might be necessary to either hack or do some fancy stuff with Trace/Reflect Type/blah to get, say, an Electric-type with Wonder Guard, and see if it's still immune to Fissure. If Fissure can hit an Electric-type with Wonder Guard, then Wonder Guard does not inherently block OHKOs; it's simply blocking them since they aren't normally super effective. As far as I know, there is no easy way to pull off such a test, save hacking. [[User:Blueapple128|Blueapple128]] ([[User talk:Blueapple128|talk]]) 02:55, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

== Previewing ==
I know to preview my page first before saving it. But the glitch I kept encountering on the page in question would only appear after I saved it. I would preview the page, everything looked okay, and then saved it only to find that odd garbled code at the end.

-{{unsigned|TBustah}}

== What should I do? ==

If opinions aren't allowed, I'm trying to make mainspace edits, but I don't have any important factual information, so I'm not sure what to do. -{{unsigned|YoshiDino90}}
:There are thousands of {{cat|stubs}} and {{cat|articles needing more information}}, hundreds of {{cat|articles needing improvement}} and lots of pages with typos or formatting mistakes. I'm pretty sure you'll find something.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 00:02, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

Well I'm doing what I can, but most of the stuff is on Generation VI, which I'm not particularly fond of mainly because I only have the games up to Generation IV. -{{unsigned|YoshiDino90}}

== Incorrect edit on your part (AG093) ==

I'm sorry to tell you that the edit of mine that you undid is actually correct. Your edit summary: "AG043 was the first completely accurate one" is completely irrelevant to what I actually posted. I posted that [[AG093]] is the first episode to use the new and more accurate Pokémon Trainer's Choice. This is correct and backed up by the actual [[Pokémon Trainer's Choice|Trainer's Choice page]] which states:

''In Pokémon: Advanced Battle, the creation of questions for Trainer's Choice was credited to Lawrence Neves and the accuracy rate greatly improved. During this season, the variety in the types of questions being asked expanded beyond simply type match-ups and evolutionary lines, as well as featuring more difficult questions. ''

As you should know by now, AG093 was the first episode of the Advanced Battle season and as a corollary, the first to contain the new Trainer's Choice by Lawrence Neves. I ask that you revert your edit to my post.

Thank you,
[[User:Yaminichi|Yaminichi]] ([[User talk:Yaminichi|talk]]) 02:38, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

== [[Shiny Pokémon]] edit: Smogon user says FS has increased shiny rate ==

Edit war-y stuff is supposed to be brought to staff, so I'd ask you{{tt|*|or another staff member; I'm just guessing you might be the one that might be around soonest}} to once more revert/readd [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Shiny_Pok%C3%A9mon&diff=2097053&oldid=2096889 the point] about increased shiny rate in the Friend Safari, as the back-and-forth reversions are on the brink of making an edit war. The Smogon user analyzed a very large set of data, so it should be something we can rely upon. (I might even suggest it be added as a reference note.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 12:40, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
:Reverted for obvious reasons.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 13:22, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
::Dennou Zenshi, I have a question, is Smogon a official website or a fan website? --[[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ''([[User talk:Cinday123|Talk]])'' 04:45, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
:::Of course it's a fansite. However, that doesn't mean its forums posts are never reliable.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 05:01, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
::::So the forums posts are reliable, right Dennou Zenshi? --[[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ''([[User talk:Cinday123|Talk]])'' 05:04, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
:::::As I said above, some can be reliable, but not all are.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 05:09, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
::::::I know Dennou Zenshi, I'll have to be careful next time about my edits. --[[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ''([[User talk:Cinday123|Talk]])'' 05:18, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

==Fokko==
Have you watched this episode XY021? I think this is not just my speculation, but I am sure there are some other people would agree. {{unsigned|Zhixun}}

Your comments make sense. I will stop editing that page then. Zhixun 11:25, 4 April 2014 (UTC).

== Floette's gender ==

I originally added AZ's Floette's gender as female because of her being an all-female species. I removed it as I found out in one of the revisions that an admin removed it and I wanted to play it safe to avoid getting yelled at. I do agree with you though about Floette being an all-female species, not like the legendary Pokémon in the anime (and possibly Pokémon Adventures) having genders even though their status is normally genderless. [[User:Pattyman|Patty]][[User talk:Pattyman|Man]] 01:27, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
:Yes, I know why did you remove it. I guess Ataro just didn't remember Floette's gender ratio back in October or he removed it by mistake while removing the wrong image (as he's only talking about that in the summary).--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 05:47, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

== Version mascot (sprites and artwork) ==

I saw a user turning all generational sprites into artwork on the [[version mascot]] page, do you prefer generational sprites or artwork? --[[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ''([[User talk:Cinday123|Talk]])'' 10:36, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
:Since we don't have Gen VI sprites for Xerneas and Yveltal, I think it's better to use artwork to keep things consistent. As a completely unrelated note, [[User:Cinday123/Generation VII Stuff#Mega Evolutions|you have pretty nice predictions]], but Mega Pokémon cannot use {{a|Magician}}, Water Absorb Mega Azumarill is just weaker than Huge Power Azumarill, and Insomnia Mega Slaking is too broken.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 10:52, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

== Type/stat superlative trivia ==

If the type pages aren't the place for it, is there ''any''thing we can do to cut down on the massive waste of space these trivia comprise? Perhaps mainspacing [[User:Pumpkinking0192/Pokémon with the highest base stats of their type]] would be an acceptable substitute for having the trivia sprawled across 120+ separate pages? [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 23:20, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
:(For the record, in addition to my concern about the space-wasting nature of these trivia, there's also the fact that 120+ pages is simply impossible to manage with any reasonable amount of fact-checking or new-generation upkeep. For instance, just among the three types I got through, Hawlucha hadn't had the trivium added to its page yet, and Pirouette Meloetta still had out-of-date Gen V trivia even though it was unseated by Mega Mewtwo X. It's just not feasible to have these trivia spread across so many pages.) [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 23:29, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
::That's pretty good point, though your page isn't ''that'' much easier to keep up to date. Anyways, I think it's a good idea to mainspace the page whether we remove the trivia from the individual articles. Though I wonder why Megas that are beaten only by legendaries are omitted, for example Mega Abomasnow has the highest Attack and Special Attack of all non-legendary Ice types but isn't listed. Also, there should't be highest stat trivia that excludes ''both'' Megas and legendaries on individual pages, like Hawlucha having the highest Speed.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 00:20, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
:::It's in one place instead of 120+, which makes it 120+ times easier to keep up-to-date as long as someone remembers to do it. As for the page's content, are Megas-surpassed-by-legends the only group I should add to the table, or should I also add legends-surpassed-by-Megas? And should I remove normals-surpassed-by-legends/Megas altogether, or is that worth keeping in the table but not individual trivia sections? [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 04:30, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
::::IMO we shouldn't give Megas any special treatment and just treat them as non-legendaries (or legendaries in case of Mewtwo and Latis when they're available). Some may argue that they're treated differently because of their high stats, but for example Slaking and pseudo-legendaries have higher bst than many Megas. So I think legends-surpassed-by-Megas and "normals"-surpassed-by-legends/Megas are not needed. But it's just my opinion and some users, including staff members, may disagree.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 09:54, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
:::::I've updated my userspace article to match your request. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 17:58, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
Plainly speaking, what's notable and what's not? I present to you the {{DL|Emboar (Pokémon)|Trivia}} section of Emboar's article, which thinks it's notable to say that Emboar has the highest HP but lowest Defense and Special Defense of all starters, is the heaviest and has the lowest BST of all final-evo Fire-type starters (a group with 6 members), and is the only final-evo Unova starter with a second type (a group with 3 members). Surely a line needs to be drawn. The only thing [[User:Force Fire/Trivia Policy/Species]] rules on is that Emboar's tie with Sceptile for lowest Defense isn't notable. —[[User:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|The]]Very[[User talk:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|Best]] 05:57, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
:I think trivia about fully evolved starters is notable only if it's not only about starters of certain region or primary type. And despite that page, at least ties in highest stats/BSTs are currently considered notable.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 06:54, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

== TPP ==
There's an issue with the Twitch page. I can't add the ten most recent captures without there being a "template overload" or some sort, which messes up the bag contents. The bag contents can only be displayed without listing those ten captures.
[[User:Philosophical-Psychological Informist Togekiss|Philosophical-Psychological Informist Togekiss]] ([[User talk:Philosophical-Psychological Informist Togekiss|talk]]) 21:11, 12 May 2014 (UTC)
:I have moved the Platinum section to a subpage. Future TPP runs such as SoulSilver should be created as a subpage to avoid the same problem.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 21:29, 12 May 2014 (UTC)
::Just wan't to let you know I did send {{u|Pokemaster97}} a message on AIM about this. He was going to discuss this with some more staff later. Also wouldn't it make the most sense to just have the Pokemon and items on a separate page and have the gameplay changes on the main page (for easy viewing)? And wouldn't it be better to have the current game on the main TPP article and have the older games on sub-pages (similar to how some of the old party templates for characters such as {{ga|Blue}} are on sub-pages)? '''[[User:Lady Ariel|Lady]] [[User talk:Lady Ariel|Ariel]]''' 21:40, 12 May 2014 (UTC)
:::Yes, on another thought it makes more sense to have the current game info on main article since most people come to see information about that game. I really should've thought about that. I'll undo my edits and let's see what the other staff members think about this.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 21:52, 12 May 2014 (UTC)
::::Given that the underlying problem is the [[:Category:Pages where template include size is exceeded|bane of my existence]] (I've had too many run-ins with that category), this might be the most logical solution. Or, just have general information on the main page and have all games, even the current one, in subpages. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy (瀬藤健二)]] ([[User talk:Schiffy|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|Contribs]]) 21:59, 5/12/2014 (UTC)

==Impossible Name Icon==
What does that weird Gold Poké Ball on your name mean? [[User:Tag365|Tag365]] ([[User talk:Tag365|talk]]) 12:27, 13 May 2014 (UTC)
:It's not impossible or weird, it means I'm a senior admin. You can see all icons and their meaning on the right side of [[Special:RecentChanges|recent changes]].--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 12:40, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

== Writing Myths as a Section ==

As many hardcore Pokémon fans know, myths make up a huge part of the fandom. Myths about Pokémon, people, the past, the Great Pokémon War- plenty of myths for each and every one of those topics, Lavender Town being the largest myth generator of them all. Does adding myths as their own section make sense? Perhaps with or after the Trivia? Myths may be exactly what they are - myths, but are a huge part of the Pokémon universe, sometimes eclipsing the thing it's about. I'm a newbie, and, at the time of writing, I've only joined yesterday. Please answer my question. ---[[User:TongueTwisted|TongueTwisted]] ([[User talk:TongueTwisted|talk]]) 21:38, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
:Fan-created myths and stories don't really belong to this wiki, we focus on canon information. There would just be edits wars over which myths are "right" and what myths can/cannot be added. Notable expections are [[Lavender Town]] and [[Vermilion]] truck, which have brief mentions on the trivia sections about their influence on fan myths.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 21:58, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

== Please help me figure this out? ==

Ok, so I'm trying to figure out the values Rare Soda, Ultra Rare Soda and Colurful Shakes add to a Pokémon's friendship.

As you know, I am not good with math as stated multiple times, and I remember you said you were a Math Major.

I used various lv 1 Eevee in the experiment, but that shouldn't hold any real baring on the results.

37 rare candies = evolution at lv 38

colorful shake (2,200) + 29 rare candies = Evolution at lv 30

colorful shake (2,200) + blended colorful shake (Starf Berry + Cheri Berry) + 21 Rare Candies = Evolution at lv 22

colorful shake (2,200) + blended colorful shake (Starf Berry + Chilan Berry) + 18 Rare Candies = Evolution at lv 19

colorful shake (2,200) + blended colorful shake (Starf Berry + Roseli Berry) + 18 Rare Candies = Evolution at lv 19

colorful shake (2,200) + blended colorful shake (Starf Berry + Ganlon Berry) + 18 Rare Candies = Evolution at lv 19

blended colorful shake (Starf Berry + Cheri Berry) + 28 rare candies = Evolution at lv 29

blended colorful shake (Cheri Berry + Chilan Berry) + 31 rare candies = Evolution at lv 32

blended colorful shake (Chesto Berry + Chople Berry) + 31 rare candies = Evolution at lv 32

blended colorful shake (Starf Berry + Chilan Berry) + 25 rare candies = Evolution at lv 26

blended colorful shake (Starf Berry + Roseli Berry) + 25 rare candies = Evolution at lv 26

blended colorful shake (Starf Berry + Ganlon Berry) + 25 rare candies = Evolution at lv 26

colorful shake (3,000) + 27 Rare Candies = Evolution at lv 28

colorful shake (3,000) + Rare Soda (3 lvs) + 25 Rare Candies = Evolution at lv 29

colorful shake (3,000) + Ultra Rare Soda (5 lvs) + 25 Rare Candies = Evolution at lv 31

colorful shake (3,400) + 25 Rare Candies = Evolution at lv 26

Rare Sode (3 lvs) + 35 Rare Candies = Evolution at lv 39

Ultra Rare Sode (5 lvs) + 35 Rare Candies = Evolution at lv 41

Ultra Rare Soda (5 lvs) + Rare Soda (3 lvs) + 34 rare candies = Evolution at lv 43

Ultra Rare Soda (5 lvs) + Rare Soda (3 lvs) + 24 rare candies given at place met/hatched = Evolution at lv 33

I know Eevee has a base friendship value of 70 and evolves with max friendship, but every time I try to do the math, I over shoot the limit friendship stops growing. So given this small amount of data, can you please help me figure out the (rough) values of Rare Soda, Ultra Rare Soda and Colurful Shake? [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 19:43, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
:Wow, that'd require lots of work and honestly, I'm pretty lazy. Even though it requires lots of Flying, wouldn't it be easier by checking how many drinks you need to get the ''"It's a little bit friendly to you… Something like that."'' (100+) rating from the friendship rater.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 20:13, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
::I think we're on two different pages here?
::This shouldn't require any flying at all, just math which I am not good with.
::I know that Rare candies gives a Pokémon +5 until it reaches 100 value of friendship. they also gain +5 for each level they go up until their friendship value is 100 as well. Between values 100-199 it only increases +3 for every vitamin and lv up, then +2 when the friendship value hits 200 up until the max value at 255.
::A Eevee starts with its friendship at 70, and 37 rare candies max out friendship and induce the evolution to Espeon or Umbreon depending on time of day.
::If I am correct, 1 rare candy alone should raise Eevee's friendship from 70 to 80. 2 rare candies will get you to 90. Then when it's at a value of 99 it only increases by 3 instead of 5.

::If you give the Eevee a Colorful Shake that cost 2.200 Pokédollars, instead of 37 rare candies by themselves, you only need 29 rare candies to get Eevee to try and evolve. That means the Colorful shake is about the same value as 8 rare candies/lv ups. That is something like 35-36 value or something like that.

::The work has been done, its just the math that is being tricky, at least for me. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 20:46, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

Ok, I went to the friendship rater and did some test with an lv 1 Eevee of the GTS

Base Friendship of 70 + 6 rare candies = 100~ Friendship

Base Friendship of 70 + 23 rare candies = 150~ Friendship

Base Friendship of 70 + Colorful Shake (3,000) = 100~ Friendship

Base Friendship of 70 + Colorful Shake (3,000) + 17 Rare Candies = 150~ Friendship

Base Friendship of 70 + Rare Soda (3lvs boost) = 70-89

Base Friendship of 70 + Rare Soda (3lvs boost) + 5 Rare Candies = 100~ Friendship

Base Friendship of 70 + Rare Soda (3lvs boost) + 21 Rare Candies = 150~ Friendship

Base Friendship of 70 + Rare Soda (3lvs boost) + 38 Rare Candies = 200~ Friendship

Base Friendship of 70 + Ultra Rare Soda (3lvs boost) = 70-89

Base Friendship of 70 + Ultra Rare Soda (3lvs boost) + 6 Rare Candies = 100~ Friendship

Base Friendship of 70 + Rare Soda (3lvs boost) + 22 Rare Candies = 150~ Friendship

Base Friendship of 70 + Rare Soda (3lvs boost) + 38 Rare Candies = 200~ Friendship

So it would seem that the Colorful Shake that costs 3,000 pokedollars is likely 30 points of friendship.

Rare Soda seems to be worth the same a 1 rare candy it seem. However it looks like judging from all the data...the Ultra Rare Soda takes away friendship or doesn't give as much friendship as Rare soda? [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 00:48, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

== Eevee Evolution Box Template issue ==

On the Eevee Article, the Evolution box lists ♥♥+Fairy-type instead of ♥♥ + Fairy type move or the TM Icon of Fairy type moves. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 02:58, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

== I want to mention how you got rid of my triva for {{t|Electric}} type ==

Hi it's me Pokemonfansuper i thought it was important we mention that so players of the game who do monotype it's actually something that people do not sure if you know about it so i'll explain it you a player has team full of pokemon who share a common type mega evolutions can change type but charziard x can't be on monotype dragon team because it is a {{t|Fire}} {{t|Flying}} type. i thought it could be useful to them especially with magnezone. {{unsigned|Pokemonfansuper}}

I have an idea would a section for how some logic for the weaknesses and strengths fit in be useful.
--[[User:Pokemonfansuper|Pokemonfansuper]] ([[User talk:Pokemonfansuper|talk]]) 18:23, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
i know i'm editting but how is it notable on ground but not on electric.
--[[User:Pokemonfansuper|Pokemonfansuper]] ([[User talk:Pokemonfansuper|talk]]) 18:25, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
:As a wiki we shouldn't really have metagame trivia like that in mainspace. Our readers should develop strategies by themselves by reading pure facts from articles. Also, please improve your grammar, especially punctuation and capitalization, your posts are pretty painful to read.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 18:58, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

== First Pokemon (Pidgey) on [[Kalos Route 2]] ==

[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Kalos_Route_2&diff=2093509&oldid=2093460 You said] that the Pidgey trivia needs more research, but exactly what kind of "research" do you mean? Personally, in the several times I've reset one of my games (and a little bit of SR'ing), I always encountered Pidgey at (as I recall) the 2nd step north into the grass and (I believe) it was always the same gender and level. Are you looking for some kind of "proof", or further information like I just mentioned...or what? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 17:24, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
:Yes, I specifically wanted more information than just "it's always a Pidgey". What about its Nature and IVs? I think you can unhide the trivia if you reword it so that it lists all things about the encounter that are constant.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 17:45, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
::For the record, it does not have a set nature or gender. IVs, iirc, has at least one 30, I believe. [[User:ArcToraphim|Kai]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 18:06, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

==Need some help==
Could you talk to LatS and the edits he is making on the Mega Sableye section on the Mega Evolution talk page because of they way he is doing it is improper. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] ([[User talk:Tyler53841|talk]]) 21:24, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
::Some of these problems were from not signing his post, overwriting my edit when I used an unsigned tag and not making a separate section for later additions to that talk page. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] ([[User talk:Tyler53841|talk]]) 21:30, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
:::If (s)he keeps doing that, I'll notify him/her about it.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 21:46, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

== Alternative Finnish names for certain terms ==

I found my old Crystal version manual just a moment ago and it uses Finnish translations that aren't found on this site. These are "salivalmentaja" for Gym Leader and "arvomerkki" for Badge. They should be mentioned but I'm not sure if they are used in the manual of Red, Blue, and Yellow versions. Likewise, in the Gen III manuals the term "rintamerkki" (a direct translation of badge) can also be found. Later manuals (when listing such things) usually use the terms "salijohtaja" and "salimerkki". [[User: Ariano|Արիանո]] 08:12, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
:I don't have any manuals older than the LG one, so I don't know what translations Gen I manuals use. But I think you can already add the Crystal translations regardless of that.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 08:31, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
::Okey-dokey.[[User: Ariano|Արիանո]] 08:38, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

== Userpage Block ==

I was wondering if I have done enough mainspace edits and went long enough with my block yet. I have made about 100 edits since the ban and was hoping that was enough to get it removed.[[User:Rahl|Chy-i]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 01:56, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
:Even though it's more like 50 edits, I guess that's enough. Just remember to not break the userspace policy anymore or your next userspace block will be much longer. Also, your signature should resemble your username in some way.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 07:41, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

== pokemon powerhouse ==

why cant we talk about powerhouse or just how powerful the pokemon we seen int he show

ash snivy having high level moves and able to endure super effective moves well she shown to be very powerful
ash skeptial is major powerhouse or massive powerhouse able to defeat many foes for ash as shown on anime also defeated darkrai, snorlax major powerhouse able to take two pokemon of ash foes down before loosing. ash charizard is the massive powerhouse. --[[User:Terryberry94|Terryberry94]] ([[User talk:Terryberry94|talk]]) 01:34, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
:Because it's kind of redundant; there are so many powerful Pokémon in the anime that we don't have to mention it, and the articles already list the battles and moves that Pokémon have had. Also, as other users have mentioned, you really should improve your grammar so that your edits and messages are easier to read for other users and our readers. You can preview your edits by pressing the 'show preview' button. If you find any mistakes in your edit, you can fix them and then press the 'save page' button.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 07:13, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

== Adding when a location is mention to the location's article ==

Hey, Dennou Zenshi. I have a question from another user on if it would be acceptable to add when a location is mentioned to that location's "In the anime" section. [[User_talk:WATERWARRIOR67#Snowpoint_City_and_Sunyshore_City|Here is the discussion that I have had with them]]. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 18:40, 16 August 2014 (UTC)
:IMO all mentions about a location can be added to the anime section as long as they also provide new information about the location, such as the location having the next Gym/Contest or being a character's hometown.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 19:44, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

== Userpage creation ==

How can I add to my own userpage? I clicked in it and I saw that I cannot add anything to any pages that start with '''User'''. I know this is for safety reasons and to prevent multi-accounting, but could you please do something for that? --[[User:PokémonXXXPlayer|PokémonXXXPlayer]] ([[User talk:PokémonXXXPlayer|talk]]) 12:35, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
:You have to become [[Bulbapedia:Autoconfirmed users|autoconfirmed]] first. Just make more mainspace edits and you'll eventually be able to edit your userpage. But remember to not make pointless or stupid edits just to become autoconfirmed.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 12:57, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

== Template:Epilang categorisation ==

I suggest to add a parameter or something that when a language parameter is inserted to an article using this template, the article automatically is categorised to: Category:List of episodes in <language>; e. g. if parameter gr is inserted to the article using this template, the article is automatically listed to Category:List of episodes in Greek. Thank you for your time. --[[User:PokémonXXXPlayer|PokémonXXXPlayer]] ([[User talk:PokémonXXXPlayer|talk]]) 13:51, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

== Category:Pokémon page revert ==

I am confused by the revert that you made to the page. The link I got was to user talk and does not really seem to explain it.

While I know that the Megas should be in the subcategory with the others, when I try to exit the page that section does not come up nor do I see any other way to edit it. I thought that having the Megas linked there would make sense given they are a specific, separate category of pokémon. Please let me know why this is not the case or, if they should be there, how to edit the page so I can place them in properly.

Thank you for your time.{{unsigned|Indagare}}
:[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Category%3APok%C3%A9mon_with_Mega_Evolutions&diff=2193908&oldid=1980303 I have added] "Category:Pokémon with Mega Evolutions" to the "Category:Pokémon". As you can see, you must do it by adding the link of the supercategory to the subcategory page, not vice versa.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 16:05, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

== [[Zygarde (Pokémon)|Zygarde]] ==

On November 3, 2013, you protected this page with the reason "Speculation crackdown: this should be semi-protected until we create pages for those three".

This makes sense then. And the page is now created. While it didn't stop me editing it now, that protection's still there. I speculate that it's safe to remove that protection at this point, but wanted to raise this and also find out if there's a reason it's still needed. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 08:29, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

== Undoing edits ==

Hi. I noticed you reverted my edit the hard way. Yeah, I didn't think ''that'' through, though. But there ''is'' an easier way to undo the edit, though the edit ''does'' need to be the latest edit on the page. At the end of the edit description, there's an "Undo" button. All you need to do is to click that link, type in your reason, then click "Save Page"! That's as simple as it gets! This isn't meant to be harrasment of any kind, just a friendly reminder. [[User:?8|???]][[User talk:?8|???]] 20:25, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
:I reverted your edit exactly that way, but I removed the "Undo revision ..." part so that the description wouldn't be too long. In case you didn't know, I am a senior admin and have been here for 4 and half years, so I know very well how to edit.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 20:49, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

== Clemont's Pokémon ==

Hi Dennou Zenshi. I was wondering if you felt that [[User:Rahl/Clemont's Magneton]] and [[User:Relicant/Clemont's Heliolisk]] are able to be moved into the mainspace. Both of these Pokémon have met the notability requirements and I was hoping to get your approval. Thank you.[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] 16:58, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
:Those pages look fine and as you said, they meet the notability requirements, so it should be okay to mainspace them.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 17:15, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

== About Nkun54543. ==
He wasn't exactly a fail vandal, he didn't spam "485348785fdshfshefhkj" etc all over the place...he could type words. All he wanted was Touhou. You should give him a second chance, I only want to block users who post gibberish like "584689dfsdfjsjd" into Bulbapedia's pages. [[User:Dancingbug11|Dancingbug11]] ([[User talk:Dancingbug11|talk]]) 20:45, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
:Posting gibberish is not the only form of vandalism. He was knowingly adding all kinds of blatantly false, fanfic-like information on articles and removing content, which are actually even worse forms of vandalism. If he had given a better first impression and had also made constructive edits, I wouldn't have blocked him indefinitely. Bulbapedia is a reliable Pokémon encyclopedia, not anyone's personal playground.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 21:06, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
:How do you know what he added and removed? Maybe he shoulda used the sandbox to do it. How did he fail? I'm new to this wiki. The best (worst?) was N being a maid. Of course I try to make constructive edits, too. Maybe we should try to give him a second chance? [[User:Dancingbug11|Dancingbug11]] ([[User talk:Dancingbug11|talk]]) 21:31, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
::I think 'fail' in this context is more like internet slang than a literal fail. You can check edits of any user with [[special:Contributions]] tool. [[special:Contributions/Nkun54543|Here are his edits]]. You can see how he edited the page by clicking the 'diff' link. Anyway as I said, what he did deserves him permanent ban. Also, that happened in 2012. Even if I unblocked him he would most likely never notice.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 21:47, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
::Nkun's actually on our Pokemon Black 2 Let's Play team, and he seems MUCH nicer now than he was in 2012. [[User:Dancingbug11|Dancingbug11]] ([[User talk:Dancingbug11|talk]]) 22:26, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

== Copied userspace ==

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User:Jskylinegtr/Anime_Predictions

This link goes to a page where a user has copied and pasted a page in my userspace. I wouldn't have minded that he used my style but he has added very little of his own work and even keeps a section where I talk about my own personal predictions. The entire page was copied over to his userspace and I don't feel that should be allowed. He has also made edits to my userspace [[User:05308|Diamond]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|Lanturn]] [[User talk:05308|CodeName: 05308]] 16:09, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

== Språk ==

Hej där Dennou Zenshi jag undrar om du nu är från Finland och talar Svenska på nivå 2 så utgår jag ifrån att du har Finska/Soumi som modersmål :) så varför står inte det på din användarsida? Med vänliga välsningar [[User:Raltseye|Raltseye]] ([[User talk:Raltseye|talk]]) 00:47, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
:Det finns inte en mall i Bulbapedia som säger så.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 06:24, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
::Åhå, men du kan ju alltid skapa en :) eller? Det finns ju minst 11 användare här som är från Finland. Med vänliga hälsningar [[User:Raltseye|Raltseye]] ([[User talk:Raltseye|talk]]) 10:34, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

== Main space ==

This page[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User:Hikaru_Wazana/Ash%27s_Rivals#XY_series] is good enough to go to the main space ?I had been talking with Kenji Girl when I started, but I could see lately she has been having little contact with the site. I have not had much time to contribute as before, but want to least to leave this page ready.--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] 02:37- 14 August 2016
:I haven't been that active lately either and I'm not sure exactly how mainspacing currently works. {{u|Pokemaster97}} is an editorial board member and the current head of anime and should know better. That said, as for my personal thoughts about the page, it looks good but I wouldn't include May and Rafe and I doubt Ash's rivals need a collective article in the first place.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 12:17, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
::Yes about May, I changed my mind after I started the page. However Rafe is an occasion rival like A.J, Shamus or Sho, in the seventh film the focus of Ash is to defeat Rafe. Unfortunately he did not appear again like Astrid (personally I think he is a better rival than Morrison). Do you think better to change these points? My point with this page is to gather these characters in a single article, as some are important for the development of the anime. And some follow the same behavior patterns. Well, thanks for your attention.--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] 14:09- 14 August 2016

== [[Receiver (Ability)]] ==

I've been meaning to ask, why did you put Receiver in the category for {{cat|Abilities with negative effects}}? The Abilities in that category usually have a more direct negative effect than Receiver does. I'm not even really sure what you're taking the negative to be (I can think of a couple possibilities, but I'm not sure what you had in mind). (If you can get on Discord, it may be easier to discuss there.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 19:39, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
:The reason I put it to the category is because you can receive an Ability that ''is'' in the category. But actually I started to rethink about it being in the category myself the other day for the very reason you stated and because similar Ability Trace is not there, but I never remembered to undo my edit :P But I will do so now that I was reminded about it. As for Discord, I haven't used it since accepting the invitation year(s) ago and don't really remember how it works.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 19:55, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
::It's basically just a chat. [https://discordapp.com/ Their web page] has links to download it or open it right in your browser. If you've accepted the invitation already, then I imagine it won't be ''too'' hard to find us if you just try opening the app and poke around. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 20:03, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

== Legendary Pokémon ==

I'm probably being pretty impatient about this issue, but I like to know what's going on so I know when and how I can help. So, regarding the legendary Pokémon, are the staff members discussing it? I couldn't tell what ForceFire meant when he said "whether it takes a day or a year". --[[User:Celadonkey|Celad]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|onkey]] 15:21, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
:There was some discussion last week that I wasn't part of (I hardly ever go there), and apparently Japanese versions do not say on GTS that those groups are legendary (or mythical), only that they're [[special Pokémon]], so it's too early to say which of them are legendary. Would've been nice if somebody who knew that before me would've said so also publically on the talk page :P--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 16:32, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
::Huh, that's interesting. What's the link to the discussion, so I can read it? --[[User:Celadonkey|Celad]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|onkey]] 16:47, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
:::It's on Bulbapedia staff's private Discord channel.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 16:53, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
::::Ah. Thanks anyways --[[User:Celadonkey|Celad]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|onkey]] 17:12, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

== Duo/trio colors ==

When I was making the [[Cosmic duo]] article, I decided to play around with the colors for the stat/moveset sections, because I didn't feel {{Color|{{steel color}}|gray}} and {{Color|{{ghost color}}|grayish-purple}} really symbolized Solgaleo and Lunala, so instead I used {{Color|{{Sun color}}|Template:Sun color}} and {{Color|{{Moon color}}|Template:Moon color}}. I was wondering if I could do the same thing with other duos and trios, for example like this:

{{duostats|flying|249|Lugia|soulsilver|106|90|130|90|154|110|250|Ho-Oh|heartgold|106|130|90|110|154|90}}

Is that ok? --[[User:Celadonkey|Celad]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|onkey]] 22:28, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
:I'd rather all Pokémon have type colors on every table for consistency reasons for now, including the Cosmic duo. Most legendaries do not have a designated "version color" for them after all. Also some Pokémon, like the Weather trio, blend too much into their version color too much imo. The colors in this table

{{duostats|psychic|791|Solgaleo|steel|137|137|107|113|89|97|792|Lunala|ghost|137|113|89|137|107|97}}

:look just fine to me. I guess it depends on whether one sees Solgaleo as a "Sun Pokémon" or "Steel/Psychic Pokémon"...--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 23:56, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
::I've always thought it was a bit odd to represent a Special Pokémon or version mascot by its type color, especially with Pokémon like Solgaleo, Lugia, and the aura trio. With a lot of these Pokémon the type color doesn't really fit. That all being said, I think it would be silly for Pokemon like, say, the Regis to have special colors as their designated color - only version mascots.

::On another, related note, I feel like it would look better and fit with the rest of the page if the background for the Pokemon picture was a light color template instead of just a regular color template. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celad]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|onkey]] 13:31, 11 March 2017 (UTC)
:::As I said, it's subjective which colors reresent them the best. I personally couldn't decide easily, but consistency makes me lean toward type colors. I think you should've asked about this on a general talk page in the first place to get opinions from different people rather than just one arbitrary admin. As for lightening the background color, that requires even bigger approval among the staff since it's a tempate edit.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 14:50, 11 March 2017 (UTC)
::::Who would I talk to for that? --[[User:Celadonkey|Celad]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|onkey]] 16:12, 11 March 2017 (UTC)
:::::Looks like you've already posted about it to [[template talk:duostats]]. If nobody is responding, you could ask the head of games, {{u|Jo The Marten}}, about it.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 16:53, 11 March 2017 (UTC)
::::::Yup, I posted it there two days ago, and I didn't get a response, so I brought it to you. Thanks! --[[User:Celadonkey|Celad]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|onkey]] 16:56, 11 March 2017 (UTC)

== Russia pokemon ==
What i edited was the truth. I found sources for the info in the Russian internet. Can you not delete the other stuff i wrote??? Like about real reasons for Pokemon cancellation and the popularity of gen 3 and [[Pokemon GO]] in {{wp|Russia}} [[User:ZmeyKolbasnik|ZmeyKolbasnik]] ([[User talk:ZmeyKolbasnik|talk]]) 11:47, 12 April 2017 (UTC) [[User:Zmey Kolbasnik|Zmey (Speaks Russian and lives in Kazakhstan)]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]), 17:45 GMT +6,00 Almaty, Dhaka, 12 April 2017
:One of your edits claimed that literally nobody in Russia cared about Pokemon for over a ''decade''. How am I supposed to take you seriously after that. And just because those pastas or Soviet fanatic websites exist doesn't make them notable on Bulbapedia.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 13:05, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

== Makuhita ==

Hi, this is random but I noticed you hid a vandlism edit (I read it before it was hidden). What makes ce4tain edits be hidden? At Wikipedia edits like the one you hid are normally left in history. I just wanted to know what makes the diffrence here frok Wikipedia. [[User:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|RubyLeafGreenCrystal]] ([[User talk:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|talk]]) 18:15, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
:Mostly to not give others any ideas, I think. Some vandal edits may also be pretty offensive and our readers are generally younger than Wikipedia's. While that edit on Makuhita wasn't so offensive, it's not like keeping it visible for everyone would contribute anything (other than getting somebody giggle, but that's not what Bulbapedia is for).--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 19:01, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

== Moving to Mainspace ==

Asking here before doing anything. As I have never made a side page or moved a page to the mainspace I was curious as to how the process works and if I have permission or if staff is the only ones allowed to move pages. Any info on how the process would be greatly appreciated for future reference. :) ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 18:12, 29 July 2017 (UTC)
:Well, there aren't really any rules against anyone mainspacing an article (or even creating one directly to the mainspace) if it's clearly notable and is not very poor in quality, and your articles fulfill that criteria. So if you ask me, you could already move them to mainspace and then edit them to unhide mainspace-only stuff and remove userspace templates. Of course if you're not sure, you can always contact an active (note that not everyone marked "Active" on the staff page is actually active in practice) high-ranking staff member specialicing in the article's subject.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 19:50, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

== Moving and naming pages for mainspacing ==

Hi, I tried to move some voice actor articles to the mainspace but when I tried, it claimed that another page has it's name and so the page cannot be mainspaced. However the page in particular(specifically Wataru Takagi) is a redirect to the List of Japanese voice actors page. So is there a way to possibly rename the redirect in order to allow my article to be mainspaced please(note that it has already been discussed with Pokemaster97 that the articles subject of the voice actors are notably enough to be mainspaced)? Thanks.[[User:Nikuriku|Nikuriku]] ([[User talk:Nikuriku|talk]]) 08:01, 17 August 2017 (UTC)
:I have moved those pages to mainspace. It was in fact impossible to move them without help of someone with page deletion powers (i.e. admin or higher) because it's the only way to get rid of the redirects.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 08:24, 17 August 2017 (UTC)
::Interesting, didn't know that. Gee, thanks for mainspacing the articles along with the other ones I made. Much appreciated. Also sorry about a while back for throwing in the totem page that Scizor was the only one not able to be found in the natural area. Forgot all about Charjabug.[[User:Nikuriku|Nikuriku]] ([[User talk:Nikuriku|talk]]) 10:08, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

== Type effectiveness ==

Hi there. As you may or may not know, we currently have type effectiveness info spread across three different pages, i.e. [[damage]], [[type]], and [[Type/Type chart]]. "Type/Type chart" was apparently intended to kinda work like a subpage, but I guess it is implicitly clear that it should work as an independent page (and, in fact, despite its title, it is not in [[:Category:Subpages]]); currently, that page basically repeats what "type" says, then adds past generations' type charts, while the section at "damage" mentions "super effective" etc., but has no details like "¼ damage" or type charts (but details on GO that appear to be exclusive to that page).

I hope you see my issue, but before I continue with my proposal, I propose you may take a short break and open-mindedly/unbiasedly consider what a good solution will be for a few moments.

My goal is to reduce what information is presented at "damage" to a bare minimum (basically, that's the bullet point and a link), to have "type" still display the current type chart and the idea (because type interaction is an essential part of "type"), and to have all the details somewhere else. And I think a really good solution is to have a page on type effectiveness that combines what is now spread across those pages (''roughly'' similar to {{STAB}}), and is linked to from both "type" (via {{template|main}}) and "damage" (pretty much how it's done already, except the info wouldn't be "detailed below"). Would/could you approve that? (Also, me posting this here should in no way deter SnorlaxMonster or really anyone else from chiming in if desired.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 11:33, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
:All of your propositions make more or less sense to me. The "Type effectiveness" section at [[damage]] indeed looks out of place and I'm for removing it. However (albeit not a bad idea), rather than having a page named "Type effectiveness" for detailed information about super-effectiveness etc. and all type charts, I think all that information would also fit into the [[type]] article just fine. And if old type charts make the article seem too long, they could be put under a show/hide button.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 15:17, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
::Thanks for your help, that'd be a great solution as well! Actually, I had assumed there was a solid reason why it was initially subpaged (article size etc.), but [[Special:LongPages|as that doesn't seem to be the case]], sure. (The only downside I still see is that I guess show/hide buttons don't work without Javascript, and it's not the bottom of the page in this case.)
::May I propose you take care of merging the two "type"s then (since I lack your powers), and I'll take care of what's at damage thereafter? [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 17:40, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
:::Um, I was just telling my opinion on the matter. While doing the said content removal to [[damage]] and re-redirecting words like "[[super effective]]" could be done already (it's dumb how "[[type effectiveness]]" redirects to [[type]] while effectiveness messages redirect to damage), merging articles is something I'm fairly sure needs wider staff approval.

:::So I think you should add {{template|merge}} to [[Type/Type chart]] and add a talk page section about the merge, stating your reasons and maybe linking to this dicussion. That way the issue can get more attention from staff and non-staff alike and get an actual resolution.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 18:33, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
::::Well, I admit there's a little hope you had access to something that could help.. speed things up a little? (Anyway, I don't want to pressure you personally; I'm kinda happy with what you already did.)
::::I'll officially propose the merge then. I'd like to wait with moving the damage stuff for a couple days, cause ''if'' there's approval for the merge within the next week or so, it's really easier to start there. (And it'll be quite some work either way.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 10:24, 17 September 2017 (UTC)

==Mainspacing VA articles==

Hi there, I have some articles on voice actors that I'd like to be mainspaced. When a time is convenient, are you able to mainspace the articles for me please? I'm unable to as you said in a previous message, only those with admin powers can delete redirects. The pages can be found on my userpage under the 'pages made but currently in userspace'. Thanks(note that it has already been discussed with Pokemaster97 that the articles subject of the voice actors are notably enough to be mainspaced).[[User:Nikuriku|Nikuriku]] ([[User talk:Nikuriku|talk]]) 01:48, 7 October 2017 (UTC)
:I moved all of them but Rintaro Nishi's page, as he has had a role only in one episode. I've also edited all moved pages to fit into the mainspace, but I'm not going to do relinking.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 07:45, 7 October 2017 (UTC)
::Thanks! Really appreciate it! Yeah, I'll do the relinking myself as well as link the character articles to their respective VA's.[[User:Nikuriku|Nikuriku]] ([[User talk:Nikuriku|talk]]) 11:13, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

==Mainspacing Gladion(anime) ==

This page[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User:Hikaru_Wazana/Gladion_(anime)] is good enough to go to the main space ?.--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] 03:01- 07 January 2018
:The intro and infobox need some editing and the Character section is empty, but otherwise it looks good. However, since it's not clear if that page is actually needed, you should first add the [[template:split]] to [[Gladion]], start a discussion, and wait until it gets an approval from the Editorial Board.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 08:51, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

== Wigglytuff ==

[[File:Pokémon Quiz XY046.png|left|thumb|200px|''The Clumsy Crier Quiets the Chaos!'''s Pokémon Quiz featuring Wigglytuff]]
The [[Pokémon Quiz]] for ''[[XY046|The Clumsy Crier Quiets the Chaos!]]'' confirms that {{p|Wigglytuff}} are {{t|Normal}}/{{type|Fairy}}. As mentioned on [[Talk:Misty's Togetic#Fairy type]], Pokémon that are retconned as being part Fairy are not acknowledged as having the type unless the anime has confirmed the species as being part Fairy. --[[User:PKMNAdventurer|PKMNAdventurer]] ([[User talk:PKMNAdventurer|talk]]) 19:34, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
:The Pokémon also has to physically appear after the type retcon, something those Wigglytuff haven't done. See how we consider {{OBP|Ethan|EP101}}'s Magnemite a pure Electric type and [[Jessie's Arbok]]'s Bite a Normal move.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 20:30, 12 June 2018 (UTC)

== [[Sea Cottage]] Bill's Secret Garden rumours ==

Hi Dennou, long time no speak. I'm contacting you because ForceFire has decided that the Bill's Secret Garden rumour shouldn't be included on the [[Sea Cottage]] page, so I am seeking a second opinion. I have provided a wealth of information on the talk page showing that it is a highly notorious (and persistent) rumour on par with [[the truck]] and [[Mewthree]], and merits inclusion in the wiki. If you can weigh in, I'd appreciate it. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 14:39, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

Sea Cottage

2018-11-20T14:33:33Z

Poppy Appletree: Reverting ForceFire's edit. I have provided a huge wealth of evidence for the rumour's spread and notoriety on the talk page, so its notability cannot be denied.

{{incomplete|2=Missing interior images}}
{{Infobox location
|image=Cerulean Cape HGSS.png
|type=land
|location_name=Sea Cottage
|japanese_name={{tt|岬の小屋|みさきのこや}}
|translated_name=Cape Cottage
|location=Northeast of [[Cerulean City]] on {{rt|25|Kanto}}
|region=Kanto
|generation={{Gen|I}}, {{Gen|II}}, {{Gen|III}}, {{Gen|IV}}
|map=Kanto Route 25 Map.png
}}
The '''Sea Cottage''' (Japanese: '''{{tt|岬の小屋|みさきのこや}}''' ''Cape Cottage'') is a small building located in the northeast of [[Kanto]] on {{rt|25|Kanto}}. It is on Cerulean Cape and is home to [[Bill]].

==In the games==
[[File:Sea Cottage interior RBY.png|thumb|left|200px|Sea Cottage in {{game|Red and Blue|s}}]]
[[File:Sea Cottage FRLG.png|thumb|right|200px|The Sea Cottage in [[Generation III]]]]
In Generations {{gen|I}}, {{gen|III}}, and {{gen|VII}}, the Sea Cottage is home to Bill. While experimenting with his Teleporter, he was accidentally combined with a {{p|Clefairy}}{{sup/3|FRLG}}/{{p|Nidorino}}{{sup/7|PE}}, and he asks the player to help him by running the Cell Separation System for him. After he is back to normal, he rewards the player with a [[S.S. Ticket|ticket]] for the [[S.S. Anne]]. In Generations I and III, Bill's computer contains info about {{p|Eevee}}, {{p|Flareon}}, {{p|Jolteon}}, and {{p|Vaporeon}}, allowing the player to add their seen entries to their [[Pokédex]], while in Generation VII, it instead contains info regarding the [[Legendary birds]] and their habitats.

In Generations {{gen|II}} and {{gen|IV}}, [[Bill's grandfather]] is housesitting the Sea Cottage and will ask the player to show him certain Pokémon. In return, he will give out related [[evolutionary stone]]s.
{{left clear}}

==Items==
{{Itlisth|land}}
{{Itemlist|S.S. Ticket|Reward for helping [[Bill]] turn back to normal|R=yes|B=yes|Y=yes|FR=yes|LG=yes|LP=yes|LE=yes}}
{{Itemlist|Everstone|From [[Bill's grandfather]] for showing him a {{p|Lickitung}}|G=yes|S=yes|C=yes|SS=yes}}
{{Itemlist|Everstone|From Bill's grandfather for showing him a {{p|Jigglypuff}}|HG=yes}}
{{Itemlist|Fire Stone|From Bill's grandfather for showing him a {{p|Growlithe}}|G=yes|C=yes|HG=yes}}
{{Itemlist|Fire Stone|From Bill's grandfather for showing him a {{p|Vulpix}}|S=yes|SS=yes}}
{{Itemlist|Leaf Stone|From Bill's grandfather for showing him an {{p|Oddish}}|G=yes|S=yes|C=yes|HG=yes|SS=yes}}
{{Itemlist|Thunder Stone|From Bill's grandfather for showing him a {{p|Pichu}}|G=yes|S=yes|C=yes|HG=yes|SS=yes|display=[[Thunder Stone|Thunderstone]]}}
{{Itemlist|Water Stone|From Bill's grandfather for showing him a {{p|Staryu}}|G=yes|S=yes|C=yes|SS=yes}}
{{Itemlist|Water Stone|From Bill's grandfather for showing him a {{p|Marill}}|HG=yes}}
{{Itlistfoot|land}}

==In the anime==
[[File:Bill Lighthouse.png|thumb|250px|Bill's Lighthouse in the {{pkmn|anime}}]]
{{main|Bill's Lighthouse}}
While the Sea Cottage does not appear in the anime, the [[Bill's Lighthouse|lighthouse]] in ''[[EP013|Mystery at the Lighthouse]]'' fills the same purpose as the home of Bill.

{{Ash}} and {{ashfr}} first stumbled across the lighthouse after Ash {{pkmn2|caught}} a {{AP|Krabby}} and it disappeared. When {{an|Brock}} explained that Krabby was sent to [[Professor Oak's Laboratory]] due to Ash already having six Pokémon [[party|on hand]], Ash immediately wanted to call {{an|Professor Oak}} to see if Krabby made it safely. Spotting the lighthouse, the group decided to visit it in the hopes of being able to use a phone there. At the lighthouse, the group met Bill, who told them about the history of the [[Pokémon world]]. He also told them about a {{pkmn2|giant}}, {{p|Dragonite|mysterious Pokémon}} that he had been researching. Coincidentally, that giant Pokémon ended up showing up at the lighthouse that night, but due to {{TRT}} attacking it, the Pokémon ended up destroying the lighthouse and leaving almost immediately, despite Bill's pleas for it to stay.
{{-}}

==In the manga==
===In the Pokémon Adventures manga===
[[File:Sea Cottage Adventures.png|thumb|230px|Sea Cottage in Pokémon Adventures]]
The Sea Cottage debuted in ''[[PS009|...But Fearow Itself!]]'' as {{adv|Bill}}'s home and the place where he makes all of his inventions. Bill was transformed into a mutated {{p|Rattata}} by accident when he was fixing one of his two Pokémon Transporters. As a Rattata, Bill got snatched by a {{pkmn2|wild}} {{p|Fearow}}, which {{adv|Red}} saved him from before {{pkmn2|caught|catching}} it. Later Red helped Bill to turn back to normal, and as a thanks, Bill offered Red the chance to use the [[Pokémon Storage System]] to lessen the amount of Pokémon he had to carry around with him.

The Sea Cottage reappeared in the {{chap|Yellow}}, where {{adv|Green}} snuck into the house in order to find information about the missing Red, believing the culprits behind his disappearance also having been behind her own childhood kidnapping. Bill, thinking she was a burglar, tried to attack her, but was quickly overpowered by [[Blasty]]. Green managed to convince Bill into helping her, but before they could find out anything other than that Red had withdrawn his [[Vee|Eevee]] from the Storage System after his disappearance, they were attacked by a {{p|Hitmonlee}}, which the [[Elite Four]] had sent after them, forcing the two to escape.

In the {{chap|Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire}}, it was revealed that Bill had kept the {{OBP|Ruby|item}} and {{OBP|Sapphire|item}} retrieved from [[Team Rocket]] during the {{chap|FireRed & LeafGreen}} at the Sea Cottage. Bill noticed that the gems had started changing back into the [[Colored orbs|orbs]] they had been before, and called Red and Green to his cottage to investigate, because {{adv|Blue}} was away from Kanto at the time. However, before Red and Green could reach the Sea Cottage, Bill was attacked by [[Maxie]] and [[Archie]], who stole the reforming orbs and headed towards [[Hoenn]] on Bill's boat.
{{-}}

==Rumors==
===Bill's Secret Garden===
Due to the map featuring an open area behind the cottage in the Generation I games, a widely circulated rumor claimed that players could unlock an area known as "Bill's Secret Garden", where all kinds of rare Pokémon could be found.<ref>https://www.gamesradar.com/uk/rumors-everyone-believed-about-pokemon/</ref><ref>https://www.techradar.com/uk/news/gaming/gotta-debunk-em-all-the-pokemon-rumors-and-urban-legends-we-all-fell-for-1315898</ref><ref>https://www.thegamer.com/pokemon-areas-that-are-impossible-to-find-and-how-to-find-them/</ref>

==Layout==
{{mapgen
|genI=Cerulean Cape RBY.png
|sizeI=200px
|genII=Cerulean Cape GSC.png
|sizeII=170px
|genIII=Cerulean Cape FRLG.png
|sizeIII=250px
|genIV=Cerulean Cape HGSS.png
|sizeIV=250px
}}

==In other languages==
{{langtable|color={{locationcolor/med|land}}|bordercolor={{locationcolor/dark|land}}
|zh_yue=海角小屋 ''{{tt|Hóigok Síu'ūk|Cape Cottage}}'' {{tt|*|Games}} 海岸小屋 ''{{tt|Hóingohn Síu'ūk|Seaside Cottage}}'' {{tt|*|Manga}}
|zh_cmn=海角小屋 ''{{tt|Hǎijiǎo Xiǎowū|Cape Cottage}}'' {{tt|*|Games}} 海岸小屋 ''{{tt|Hǎi'àn Xiǎowū|Seaside Cottage}}'' {{tt|*|Manga}}
|fr=Villa du Cap
|de=Küstenhaus
|it=Miramare
|ko=호수공원의 오두막 ''{{tt|Hosugongwon-ui Odumak|Lake Park Cottage}}''
|pt_br=Casebre do Litoral (manga) Chalé do Mar (The Official Pokémon Handbook)
|ru=Дом на побережье ''Dom na poberezh'ye''
|es=Casa del Mar Casa del mar{{sup/4|HGSS}}
|vi=Căn hộ trên mũi đất
}}

==See also==
* {{rt|25|Kanto}}

{{Kanto}} 
{{Project Locations notice}}

[[Category:Kanto locations]]
[[Category:Red, Blue and Yellow locations]]
[[Category:Gold, Silver and Crystal locations]]
[[Category:FireRed and LeafGreen locations]]
[[Category:HeartGold and SoulSilver locations]]
[[Category:Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee! locations]]

[[de:Bills Küstenhaus]]
[[it:Miramare]]
[[ja:みさきのこや]]
[[zh:海角小屋]]

Talk:Sea Cottage

2018-11-20T14:31:45Z

Poppy Appletree: /* Inclusion of Bill's Secret Garden rumour */

==Merge with Sea Cottage and Bill's Lighthouse?==

Cerulean Cape and Sea Cottage are both stub articles. Bill's Lighthouse, while not a stub, is still quite short. All three deal with essentially the same material, though Bill's Lighthouse is only in the Anime, while the Sea Cottage is in the games and other canon. I think the three articles should be merge to flesh out one larger, better article that deals with Cerulean Cape and it's landmark of the Sea Cottage/Lighthouse as a whole rather than split into three small articles. [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 14:51, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
:I agree. [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 13:55, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
::I brought it up {{red link|Talk:Sea Cottage|here}} and I'm going to do it again. I agree as well.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 14:02, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
:::I agree merging Sea Cottage with this one, but not sure of Bill's Lighthouse. We have tons of anime-exclusive location, so that one might belong to those. '''►[[User:Kevzo8|Ҝə]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|υz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|ø8]]''' 14:15, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
::::I'll Do this now. But what should we call it?--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 14:16, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::Cerulean Cape is fine. Just, um, redirect the old page to the new one next time you merge something :D — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 05:35, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::Yep. Got a bit into a edit war with that, but I added info to thee pages. :D--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 05:50, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

==Merge with Cerulean Cape and Bill's Lighthouse?==

Cerulean Cape and Sea Cottage are both stub articles. Bill's Lighthouse, while not a stub, is still quite short. All three deal with essentially the same material, though Bill's Lighthouse is only in the Anime, while the Sea Cottage is in the games and other canon. I think the three articles should be merge to flesh out one larger, better article that deals with Cerulean Cape and it's landmark of the Sea Cottage/Lighthouse as a whole rather than split into three small articles. [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 14:51, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
:I am going to bring this up again. Satosuke makes a valid point, [[Bill's Lighthouse]] and Sea Cottage are both very short articles.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 13:32, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
::The main discussion for this topic is located [[Talk:Sea Cottage#Merge with Sea Cottage and Bill's Lighthouse?|here]]. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 05:35, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

== Bill's Grandpa ==

Okay, so I've shown Bill's grandpa all the pokemon he asks to see (in HGSS). Here's the list of pokemon and the stones you get in return:
* Lickitung - Everstone
* Oddish - Leaf Stone
* Staryu - Water Stone
* Vulpix - Fire Stone (in SS, possibly Growlithe in HG)
* Pichu - Thunderstone
Is this information worth including in this article? --[[User:Oatzy|Oatzy]] 22:04, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
:I had to show him a Jigglypuff to get an Everstone, not a Lickitung. Could it be because we're playing different versions? I'm using HeartGold. --[[User:Paranoid Trainer|Paranoid Trainer]] 23:30, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
::Yeah, probably is. I'm playing SoulSilver. Do you know if any of the others different?
:::Well, Oddish and Pichu are definitely correct, and your Growlithe guess was on the money, but instead of a Staryu I'm being asked for a Marill. Or at least, the description matches Marill perfectly (round and blue, with a white belly and a floating tail end), but since I don't have one yet I can't confirm it yet. --[[User:Paranoid Trainer|Paranoid Trainer]] 00:05, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
::::Sounds about right, yeah. What was the order he asked to see them in?--[[User:Oatzy|Oatzy]] 13:46, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
:I have HeartGold, and can confirm that he asks for the Oddish first. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 15:06, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
::I just confirmed Marill in HG. Oddish was first for me as well, followed by either Jigglypuff and Growlithe, and then the other. Sadly I can't recall with of them was second and which was third, but I'm almost certain Pichu was the 4th and Marill was definitely the last. --[[User:Paranoid Trainer|Paranoid Trainer]] 01:46, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
:::Haven't gotten the Water Stone part yet, but in HG for me, it was Oddish, Growlithe, Jigglypuff, Pichu. [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 17:47, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

== SS Anne ticket ==
Shouldn't this item be on the item list for R/B/Y and FR/LG? [[User:Moltres93|Moltres93]] 10:22, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

== Inclusion of Bill's Secret Garden rumour ==

I have added a section regarding the Bill's Secret Garden rumour. This is one of the most infamous rumours in Pokémon history, on par with [[the truck]] and [[Mewthree]], and I believe this should remain in the article. To this day articles are written about this - see the following links: [https://www.gamesradar.com/uk/rumors-everyone-believed-about-pokemon/] [https://www.techradar.com/uk/news/gaming/gotta-debunk-em-all-the-pokemon-rumors-and-urban-legends-we-all-fell-for-1315898] [https://www.thegamer.com/pokemon-areas-that-are-impossible-to-find-and-how-to-find-them/][https://www.thegamer.com/pokemon-areas-that-are-impossible-to-find-and-how-to-find-them/]. I genuinely think it cheapens the wiki not to mention the existence of this rumour, especially when it was seemingly referenced in the Generation IV games with the [[Trophy Garden]], similar to how the truck had a hidden [[lava cookie]] added as a nod to the rumours in FRLG. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 12:53, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
:All those sites are clickbait sites on par with buzzfeed and does not make it "infamous". The Mew rumor is the most well known rumor of the three, while Mewthree is part of the Fakemon article, so I treat that as talking about "Mewthree the fakemon" and not "Mewthree the rumor". The "Secret Garden" is just not as well known as the other two.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 13:49, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
:: Since you seem keen to ignore how widespread and well-known this rumour is, I have compiled a (non-exhaustive) mentions of the rumour, which you can see below. Several of these include people ''still'' spreading the rumour more than 20 years later, so it's almost negligent not to mention it on the ''premier Pokémon wiki''.

::You can call literally anything clickbait these days because the standard of news has degraded exceptionally, but I'm honestly not sure what you're expecting with regards to Pokémon. Most traditional news sources give incorrect details about Pokémon anyway because they don't care enough to cover it properly. A bunch of those sites which have posted articles (TechRadar, GamesRadar, Syfy, Screenrant, Den of Geek, Destructoid) are very well-known sites. With the combination of those articles you would pass ''Wikipedia's'' notability standards, and they have come down hard on this kind of thing.

::The Bill's Secret Garden is notorious, long-lived, well-documented, and ''still being spread to this day''. It is notable enough for this wiki, and that will be the case regardless of what you say, because your opinion on this matter is blatantly counterfactual. As such, I am reversing your removal of the Secret Garden rumour. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 14:31, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

===Articles===

https://www.complex.com/pop-culture/2013/01/the-10-most-bizarre-schoolyard-pokmon-rumors/bills-gardenmountainforrest

https://www.grunge.com/32359/false-facts-pokemon-always-thought-true/

http://aribaa.com/2018/01/surfing-glitch-pokemon-red-blue/

https://www.techradar.com/uk/news/gaming/gotta-debunk-em-all-the-pokemon-rumors-and-urban-legends-we-all-fell-for-1315898

https://www.gamesradar.com/uk/rumors-everyone-believed-about-pokemon/

https://www.thegamer.com/pokemon-areas-that-are-impossible-to-find-and-how-to-find-them/

https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/fact-theres-a-lost-original-pokemon-game-that-americans-never-played

https://screenrant.com/pokemon-gold-silver-hidden-locations/

http://www.oldandnewtoys.com/our-blog/the-best-forgotten-pokemon-urban-legends

https://cinemashelf.com/theory-raider-1-pokemon-red-blue/

https://skirmishfrogs.com/2016/03/04/pokemon-day-week-7-top-myths-from-gen-1/

https://www.denofgeek.com/us/games/pok-mon/258818/chasing-mew-how-the-world-became-obsessed-with-pokemon

https://www.poke-blast-news.net/2015/09/5-mitos-sobre-pokemon-nos-quais-voce.html

https://www.giantbomb.com/pokemon-redblue/3030-3966/

http://www.syfygames.com/news/article/exploring-the-weird-world-of-pokmon-urban-legend-jessicafamularo

https://twinfinite.net/2016/02/10-pokemon-red-and-blue-myths-you-probably-fell-for/

===Fansites===

http://pokegods.wikia.com/wiki/Bill%27s_Secret_Garden

http://gaming-urban-legends.wikia.com/wiki/Bill%27s_Secret_Garden

https://glitchcity.info/wiki/Surf_down_glitch

https://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~jdonald/pokemon/ssanne.html

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/UrbanLegendOfZelda/Pokemon

http://en.illogicopedia.org/wiki/Pokemon_cheats

https://www.facebook.com/BillsSecretGarden

http://floatzel.net/pokemon/pokemon_rumors.htm

http://www.rigelatin.net/copycat/games/mewrumors.php

https://aminoapps.com/c/pokemon/page/blog/myths-behind-the-glitches-part-2/Mjhk_uadKjrb61WngqZ6nnN13Vxw4p

http://harveststone.tripod.com/homepage_console/rumors.htm

http://editthis.info/fake_cheats/Pokemon#Bill.27s_secret_garden

https://cheatcodesnow.ise.com.bd/cheat-guide/faq-3-pokemon-yellow-gameboy-53125/

===Discussion topics===

https://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=138709

http://arvee3zy.tumblr.com/post/11342420988/bills-secret-garden

http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/3298/t636831-bills-secret-garden/

https://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=151782

https://www.reddit.com/r/twitchplayspokemon/comments/48hm5c/could_someone_clarify_on_bill_secret_garden/

https://www.supercheats.com/gameboyadvance/questions/pokemonleafgreen/200566/is-it-possible-to-get-all-3-le.htm

http://www.answers.com/Q/How_do_you_get_to_bills_secret_garden_in_Pokemon_fire_red

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090807160420AAEfL2y&guccounter=1

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/22699-13-frlg-celio-phrases

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/907714-pokemon-blue-version/46871149

https://omggirlsgame.wordpress.com/tag/pokemon-red-rumor/

http://forums.pokemontcg.com/topic/12690-pok%C3%A9mon-memes/

http://boards.4chan.org/vp/thread/37022107/dumbshit-rumors-you-belived-as-a-kid

https://www.destructoid.com/experience-points-28-pokemon-red-blue-325884.phtml

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/rttp-the-pokemon-all-721-of-them-and-counting.1120680/page-65

https://forums.serebii.net/threads/the-worst-and-the-best-old-pokemon-1st-gen-rumors.430057/

https://www.math.miami.edu/~jam/azure/forum/buzz/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=4;t=000256;p=

https://animesuperhero.com/forums/threads/legit-way-to-get-mew-in-pokemon-blue-red-yellow.3337661/

http://www.cheatsguru.com/nds/pokemon_soul_silver/questions/2153368/

https://twitter.com/pokemon/status/917812373255110656?lang=en

https://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.201136-Fake-game-rumors-from-the-past?page=3

https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/history-of-pok%C3%A9mon-fan-speculation.3607682/

===Videos===

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrhdZVN1qT4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfWPy4JXCtk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4A8YUZQK30

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6E9mZrkSg8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cONW--1dVo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62Pl6OIUSTM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C57tp5DmCk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRnaaGCdP-8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdhEtMsn1ug

===Artwork and stories===

https://www.deviantart.com/bluespeon/art/Bill-s-Secret-Garden-Magazine-606852169

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/8024317/1/Bill-s-Secret-Garden

https://www.deviantart.com/ibolrock/art/Bill-s-Secret-Garden-186768405

http://www.nerdragecomic.com/index.php?date=2013-11-22

http://fyeahpokemoncreepypasta.tumblr.com/post/19400092319/leaf-green-beta

https://memegenerator.net/instance/57825682/pokemon-kid-help-me-find-bills-secret-garden-hell-give-me-mewthree

User talk:Force Fire/Archive 9

2018-11-20T13:57:48Z

Poppy Appletree: /* Sea Cottage and Trophy Garden */

{{User:Force Fire/Archive}}

== Subpages of a userpage ==

Hello, I noticed you warning people about their userpages, so I thought you'd be the right person to ask this. The thing is, I would like to create a subpage listing my in-game teams using the standard team template, since I want there to be more things related to Pokémon and me on my page. I wanted to ask whether or not it is allowed at all and what I should keep in mind besides not editing excessively. Thank you! [[User:Kikugi|Kikugi]] ([[User talk:Kikugi|talk]]) 10:16, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
:Making subpages for that is fine, the rules for subpages is the same as a normal userpage. An edit to your subpage also counts to the "three userspace edits per day" rule.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 10:28, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

== Another offensive username ==

Puta is a really rude word in Spanish(I think the account maker failed to use proper alts, but their intent is clear...is this worth your time for an unacceptable username?--[[User:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|BlisseyandtheAquaJets]] ([[User talk:BlisseyandtheAquaJets|talk]]) 17:16, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

== "Not everything is a pun" ==

...I never said everything is, but SM is known for them and "ワル" is not a Japanese word, but "warui" (悪い) is! And since it's spelled as "ワル" and "Warubiaru" (ワルビアル) is in the episode it makes sense it's a pun. I have no idea what your problem is and I don't care, but I've already explained why it's a pun. "ワル" isn't used as "bad" in katakana, but words are used in different characters when they're a joke. Like the episode with Dhelmise with "Ikari" (anger) being used as "いかり" as "anchor" but the same spelling "Ikari" also can be used to mean "怒り" (anger). [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 19:31, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
:Please respond and change it back because it's not spelled the right way, meaning it is a pun. I don't care what your problem is, but not correctly addressing a pun in a title that clearly has one just makes Bulbapedia look stupid. I've been obvious why it's a pun. Why can episode titles like SM071, SM065, and SM040 be acknowledged but not this? [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 14:54, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
::Just because "waru" is written in katakana, doesn't mean it no longer means "悪" or has a different meaning. "ワル" is still "悪", it's not some nonsensical word. And yes, "悪" can be used by itself. As for the title, "waru" could also be referring to Nanu, considering his attire and the fact the title includes "oyaji" (since it's "...waru oyaji wa...").
::As for the other episodes, they're fine. Ikari can mean either Anchor and Anger, like you said, so that's a pun. "Mairimasu" ''is'' pure nonsense and could only be a pun. "Pan-paka-pan" is a trumpet fanfare with just happens to include the word "pan", and the episode was about bread.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 15:20, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
:::The idea that not translating a pun is bad needs to be addressed.
:::Translating puns is HARD.
:::It is ''not'' always worth wracking your brain over or compensating for otherwise. And it's not even necessarily worth forcing something. Not translating a pun does not make Bulbapedia look stupid... [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:37, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

== Surge/Terrain confusion ==

There's confusion going on in the anime whether the [[Tapu]] are activating their signature abilities or using the Terrain moves. This issue has been resolved with {{DL|Recurring wild Pokémon in the anime|Tapu Koko}}, but people are still mixing up {{DL|Recurring wild Pokémon in the anime|Tapu Lele}} and {{DL|Recurring wild Pokémon in the anime|Tapu Bulu}}'s Abilities with their Terrain moves. When Tapu Lele and Tapu Bulu activated their Abilities {{a|Psychic Surge}} and {{a|Grassy Surge}} respectively, users are assuming that they are using the attacks {{m|Psychic Terrain}} and {{m|Grassy Terrain}} instead. That is not the case. In ''[[SM037|Rising from the Ruins!]]'' and [[SM075]], when Tapu Lele and Tapu Bulu enter battle with Rockruff and {{AP|Lycanroc}} respectively, their Surge Abilities go off at the start of their battles. This happened with Tapu Koko as well when it battled {{AP|Pikachu}} in ''[[SM002|The Guardian's Challenge!]]'' and ''[[SM019|A Guardian Rematch!]]''. The Terrain moves can go off during any point of the battle, however the Surge Abilities can only activate when the Pokémon enter the field. Another point to show that it's their abilities activating in those episodes and not their attacks is in ''[[SM052|Revealing the Stuff of Legend!]]'' where all four Tapu used the four Terrain moves to show {{Ash}} and {{ashfr|the gang}} [[Nebby#In_the_anime|Nebby]]'s backstory. Even the anime makes mistakes as shown in SM075 where [[Acerola]] and {{Rotom}} misidentify Tapu Bulu's Grassy Surge as Grassy Terrain. --[[User:PKMNAdventurer|PKMNAdventurer]] ([[User talk:PKMNAdventurer|talk]]) 21:32, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
:I've removed them and added a hidden notice. Abilities and moves need to be explicitly said, especially those that would potentially have the same exact animation.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 03:11, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
::Ok, looks like Psychic Terrain was confirmed via dub captions (which is fine, until/unless the Japanese version says that it's something else later on). Grassy Terrain was said, which you've noted. Is it an error? We don't know. But for now, it is not an error unless they contradict themselves and call it Grassy Surge later on. At the end of the day, the is no confusion. Assuming moves is something you shouldn't be doing. If it is said or revealed in close caption, then that's final.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:08, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
:::Ok. I wanted to make sure if the move used was either the Terrain Move or the Surge Ability. Thank you for clearing it up. --[[User:PKMNAdventurer|PKMNAdventurer]] ([[User talk:PKMNAdventurer|talk]]) 20:48, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

== Requests ==

If you would be so kind, could you please hear me out and consider doing a couple things I can't do (at least without permission, in some cases):
* Template {{template|Trainerentry}} has several handy redirects for Trainer classes that have changed their names over the years, such as "Cooltrainer" to "Ace Trainer" and "Rocket" to "Team Rocket Grunt". However, there are several Trainer class name changes that have either been missed or happened after the template was last edited, like "Rocket Grunt"{{tt|*|From Generation II}} to "Team Rocket Grunt", "Pokéfan" to "Poké Fan", "Swimmer ♂/♀" to "Swimmer", and "Clerk ♂/♀" to "Office Worker". There may be others than these, but anyway, my point is, could you please add the missing redirects to the template in the same way as the already existing redirects?
* Back in January, I suggested that the [[Pokémon League (Alola)/Title Defense]] page should be split into separate SM and USUM Title Defense pages. I've already got the USUM section ready right [[User:FinnishPokéFan92/Pokémon League (Alola)/Title Defense/Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon|here]] under my own userspace in case the idea gets approved. Do you think the page should be split?
* Ummm... I recall having a third request, but it doesn't come to my mind right now. I'll come back if I can remember it.
:--[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:59, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
::I've added the examples you've provided. If there are any more, do let me know.
::I've forwarded the article with the other staff members.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 08:16, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
:::Thank you for hearing me out. And indeed, I've discovered a few more redirect links that should be fixed: "Officer" and "Policeman" to "Police Officer", "Interviewer" to "Interviewers", "Socialite" to "Madame", and "School Kid" to "Schoolkid". Also, a couple of other things related to this subject:
::::In Generation II, the "Swimmer" class was classified as "Swimmer♂/♀", as in without a space, while in Generation VI, it's "Swimmer ♂/♀", as in ''with'' a space. The latter redirect is yet to be fixed.
::::In Generation II, the Trainer class that would later be known as "Schoolkid" was called "Schoolboy", hence why "Schoolboy" redirects to "Schoolkid" (or rather "School Kid", a redirect link). And then, in Generation VI, we were introduced to the separate "Schoolboy" Trainer class. As such, the Schoolboy links from Generation VI now lead to an incorrect article (similar to the "Medium" link from [[Saffron Gym]]'s page, actually, due to the Channeler class's renaming in Stadium, but that's a much more minor subject). I know this may be an impossible or at least a difficult problem to solve properly, but I decided to bring it up nevertheless, just in case.
:::The request I forgot about yesterday is actually a pretty old one: back in 2013, I made a suggestion to change the {{template|Gym Leaders of Unova}} to better separate the BW and B2W2 Gym Leaders from each other, but my edit (which you can see [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Template:Gym_Leaders_of_Unova&oldid=1865505 here]) was undone, because I hadn't talked about it beforehand. Since then, I've forgotten, remembered, and re-forgotten this multiple times, but now I've finally managed to make myself bring this long-forgotten topic up again. Could the template be edited in this or at least in a similar kind of way, or do you feel it's good enough as it is?
:::Also, I've also come up with a couple new things I'd want to propose since yesterday: could "Tide Song Hotel" and "Kantonian Gym" receive their own articles? I've already asked people's opinions about these ideas on [[Heahea City]] and [[Malie City]]'s talk pages, and at least the Tide Song Hotel split seems to have gotten some support already. Could you take these splits into consideration as well? Thank you.
:::--[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 10:04, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
::::Oh, and while I'm at it, I also found one Orre Trainer class redirect to fix: "Fun Old Lady" to "Matron". --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:35, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
:::::Ah, didn't see the subtle difference with the Swimmer trainer class. I've added the other TCs.
:::::I think the Unova Gym Leader Template is fine the way it is. Repeating the same Gym Leaders is pretty unnecessary, while I do get why, the template is about who are the Gym Leaders, separating by game isn't necessary. Plus, the three newer Gym Leaders being at the bottom of the first eight already implies that they were added later on.
:::::I've forwarded those suggestions to the other admins as well.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:11, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
::::::I actually just saw you making that edit. Thanks a lot.
::::::I understand. It's fine. I won't raise that topic again.
::::::Thanks once again. I'll be waiting for the results. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:36, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
:::::::Sorry to bother you again, but I've found a couple more links to fix, mainly from the Orre games:
::::::::Let's get the simpler ones out of the way first: "Researcher" and "Cipher R&D" to "Scientist".
::::::::Now, for something I'm not so sure of: the Orre-exclusive classes "Rogue" "Kaminko Aide", and "Robo Groudon" are Trainer classes used by only one person each, and they also only appear as redirect links on one page each. Hence why I'm not sure if these redirects should be removed or not. What do you think?
::::::::And finally, something a bit different, but still involving the same template. A big number of Fighting-type Trainers in FireRed and LeafGreen have their Pokémon holding Black Belts. However, the template links the "Black Belt" held item to "Type-enhancing item#Black Belt". This was understandable before, but now "Black Belt (item)" has its own article. Could you change the link to go to the item's own page now?
:::::::Thank you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:59, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
::::::::Done. As for the three single trainer trainer classes, I think they're fine, due to the way the template works (the second parameter is under a TC template, so their has to be a [name] (Trainer class) link.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 03:29, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::Thank you once again. However, when I looked at your edits, I also happened to notice that, similar to the Black Belt link you fixed, the held item link for "Metronome" leads to "In-battle effect item#Metronome". I can understand that you didn't notice that during your edit, so I'm not blaming you of anything, but could you be so kind and fix that one, too? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:25, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
::::::::::Whoopsie! Every time I think I'm done with this issue, I notice something new. The redirect link of "Poké'''F'''an" to "Poké Fan" has been fixed, but it's formatted as "Poké'''f'''an" on every pre-Generation VI page (as well as on the "Poké Fan (Trainer class)" article), and ''that'' redirect link still remains to be fixed. Could you do this one more thing? I'm sorry if you feel bothered by this. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:40, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::::(deep sigh) One. More. Once again I've noticed something. In Generation II, some Poké Fans had their Pokémon holding Berries, as in "Berry (item)", but link just goes to "Berry". Could that be fixed? PS. I also have other stuff to talk about with you, but I'll probably start a new section for that purpose later. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:04, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

== Force preview question ==

I've heard about the force preview group, where you have to preview your edits before publishing them. And I thought it might help me slow down and evaluate if my edits are actually helpful, since I have a tendency to act impulsively. Is it possible to ask to be put in that group? I was just curious. [[User:Veralann|'''Incentive'''''' (a.k.a. Veralann)''']] 02:49, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

== PokeShay ==

I think it was a little harsh to block him for that. You could've just asked about it on his talk page. --[[User:Raltseye|Raltseye]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 16:03, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

== "Pokémon seen" lists for movie locations ==

I wasn't too sure who to ask about this, though I have noticed that some movie-based locations have got the "Pokémon seen" lists and others don't. What is the requirement for these types of pages?. E.g. The Lake of Life has an incomplete list whilst Forina and the Tree of Beginning do not have any list, instead the Pokémon are just listed in the description section.

Also who is the authority on uploading images to the archives? I have a few images in mind that are needed to complete other pages like the Pokémon mate page.

Thanks. [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 09:55, 28 May 2018 (UTC)
:Locations where Pokémon actually live there have the Pokémon list. Though I'm not too sure if it's needed, as most are just wild Pokémon. Maybe if they play a large role in the area, such as the titans in Tree of Beginning, then they can be listed. Otherwise, it's unnecessary. As for the archives, you have to create an account at the archives and wait to be autoconfirmed there (the requirements are the same as it is on the wiki).--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 02:43, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

::Thank you for the information. [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 09:36, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

== Unaccpetable username ==

[[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Special:Contributions/Son_of_a_gun]] {{unsigned|RubyLeafGreenCrystal}}
:No it's not.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 02:43, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

== Bulbapedia lagging ==

Not really sure if this is the appropriate place to ask, but is the site undergoing updates or something? Loading for this site is lagging for me. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 20:45, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

:Never mind. The issue seems to have resolved itself. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 21:48, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

== Could I have my userspace privileges back? ==

It's been like 6 years and I mostly just wanna delete it lmao --[[User:Pokelova|Pokelova]] ([[User talk:Pokelova|talk]]) 12:17, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
:Done.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 14:18, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

== Edgreen293 ==

{{user|Edgreen293}} is at it again ([https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Chopper&diff=prev&oldid=2803690] [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Janet&diff=prev&oldid=2803692] [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Damian&diff=prev&oldid=2803693]). [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 22:29, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
: I might also add {{user|Tygamer64}} since both GrammarFreak01 and I were discussing him on his talk page. Since he has made rather pointless edits and we were told to report these cases. '''Ice''' [[User talk:The IceCream|Cream]] 15:25, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

== RE: Episode links ==

The links I added are from a licensed Pokémon copyright holder, so there is no copyright issue here. They are all legal.--[[User:Magicknight94|Magicknight94]] ([[User talk:Magicknight94|talk]]) 09:31, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
:Did you read my reply?--[[User:Magicknight94|Magicknight94]] ([[User talk:Magicknight94|talk]]) 14:52, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
::You still can't link to full episodes or episode clips, regardless of whether it comes from an official source or not.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:35, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
:::Why not? If copyright is not the issue here, what is the problem? Can you explain? --[[User:Magicknight94|Magicknight94]] ([[User talk:Magicknight94|talk]]) 07:33, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
:::Hello?--[[User:Magicknight94|Magicknight94]] ([[User talk:Magicknight94|talk]]) 05:22, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
::::Be patient. Force Fire is probably busy. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 05:31, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
:::::The issue '''is''' copyright. We choose not to link to episodes available on streaming sites, regardless of it being from an official source or not, just to be on the safe side. Also, the link you provided was for the Vietnamese dub, which I don't think anyone visiting an ''English'' wiki would be interested in.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:14, 12 June 2018 (UTC)

== Pokemon 4ever working title? ==

https://www.serebii.net/archive/September-2000.shtml Scrolling down that page a bit shows a 7-frame promo for a project simply called ''Pokémon 2001'' and one of the frames shows a Celebi, no plans to currently add anything about it to the Pokémon 4ever page but I was wondering what your thoughts were on this. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 14:05, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
:Do you have another source for that other than Serebii? Serebii is not a credible source, as it's a fansite.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 13:10, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
::Nope, just randomly came across that and given how old the page was, got a little curious. Tried to reverse image search the frames but could not find anything at all. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 13:12, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
:::Not sure if I can post this video, but here's video proof. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Od-eFQhVRI [[User:Playerking95|Playerking95]] ([[User talk:Playerking95|talk]]) 13:56, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
::::Oh wow, did not know there was still video footage, I just thought it was those seven screenshots. Wonder if this would be worth adding to the Pokémon 4ever section as trivia. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 14:01, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

== PardescanSlowbro ==

I'm having a really big problem with {{user|PardescanSlowbro}} right now. I once sent him [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2768197&oldid=2766807 this message] in response to his editing style, and [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2768426&oldid=2768197 he took it pretty personally] (even though I was also [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AGrammarFreak01&type=revision&diff=2768465&oldid=2766949 in the wrong here]). Since then, the user has made edits to a variety of articles, and I've commonly had to edit them to rectify errors that he made. For example, [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=EP045&type=revision&diff=2809520&oldid=2806418 he very recently edited] the plot summary of [[EP045]] and [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=EP045&diff=next&oldid=2809520 this] was what I did to improve it (note that I also did some unrelated changes at the same time).

[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2801230&oldid=2801220 I once tried] to inform him of some of the kinds of errors he kept making in his edits, like [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AGrammarFreak01&type=revision&diff=2768465&oldid=2766949 you suggested], but [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2801256&oldid=2801230 this] was his response. He also said [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2801220&oldid=2801168 this beforehand]. [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2801258&oldid=2801256 I tried] to be rational and explain myself this time, but the conversation did not move forward anymore, so I gave up trying to reason with him and just resorted to editing at his heels whenever I saw an error. He eventually [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2809534&oldid=2809278 got agitated] by this. [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2809538&oldid=2809534 I tried] asking for specifics about his complaints of me, but [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2809541&oldid=2809538 he claimed I already knew what I was doing] (I legitimately do not). After I [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2809547&oldid=2809541 responded a couple of times], he went on [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2809557&oldid=2809547 a tirade] against me.

If any, if not all of his grievances towards me are legitimate, then I do apologize immensely. But I sincerely believe I've been trying to be helpful and he just rebuffs it. Either way, could you please step in? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 07:39, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

:He also had [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2809565&oldid=2809561 this] to say recently. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 07:44, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

::{{user|Tiddlywinks}} has [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:PardescanSlowbro&diff=0&oldid=2809568 pitched in]. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 19:25, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

== Harassment Procedure ==

Dear ForceFire,

I have felt personally vindicated and harassed by the user GrammarFreak01 on a continuous basis. I have pleaded to be left alone by the user and made them clearly aware of my feelings on their conduct towards myself. I was never under the assumption that any of my edits were to be untouched, though found the user in question deliberately followed and made, in some cases minor and pointless changes to over 40 pages (Episode 1 to 46 and some associated anime pages) directly after I did over recent days. The pages in question, at least the plot sections required some detail corrections but until my additions had not been looked at for several years. I had earlier requested significant action be taken against the user on Tiddlywinks page after an earlier spate of unexplained deletions to additions which were quickly reinstated by Tiddlywinks. Nothing came of this request on Tiddlywinks page, and the behaviour has persisted and worsened into vitriol that centres on GrammarFreak01's belief I referred to them as racist, though nothing of the sorts has occurred. I can no longer handle the barrage of blatancy and continuous harassment written on my discussion page by GrammarFreak01, and wish for those actions to end. At all times I have maintained my distance, and have thanked the user for their efforts when they have worked in collaboration with myself. Though their commentary and vicious attacks on my supposed sensitivities and linguistics must end. I have let things slide, despite my discontent, as to avoid further escalation. The user has been told to maintain their distance and respect previously written advices to improve their conduct, though such warnings remain unheeded and their pattern of behaviour towards me continues to intensify. I am completely naïve when it comes to Bulbapedia's bullying procedures, though require strong action be taken to ensure the harassment, belittlement and bullying that I have been exposed to by user GrammarFreak01 does not ever repeat.

I look forward to your reply, though will maintain my reserve and distance nonetheless,
[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 12:04, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

: Seeing as I have been the only one to receive any commentary it is best I be moved on. My claims have been outright ignored and also denied, despite the sheer amount of evidence to say otherwise. At the very least the user in question should have been told to remain at a distance, though has immediately gone on the attack again; though of course I am making everything up and overreacting as you pointed out. As such, please delete my account, this forum is no longer suitable to myself, my temperament or my skills. Thanks.[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 13:44, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

== Move trivia ==

How do I know if trivia about moves is notable? The stuff I add sometimes gets undone even if it's unique to that move. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 17:54, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
:Depends on what the trivia is.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:34, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
::I guess a recent example would be my attempt to add a trivium to thunder wave. It said that thunder wave is currently the only status move whose effectiveness depends on the type chart, so that ground Pokemon were immune because it was electric type and not because it was programmed separately. I thought it was unique and notable, but it was taken down. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 17:57, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

== Erica124 yet again ==

{{user|Erica124}} has once again shown [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Walking_Pok%C3%A9mon&type=revision&diff=2810509&oldid=2808316 her inability] to use her force preview, despite [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AErica124&type=revision&diff=2808504&oldid=2771952 my earlier warning]. Maybe it's time to let her go? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 04:24, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
:Perma-blocking her is for the staff to decide, not you. You also need to calm down when approaching "problem" users, yes their continuous wrongdoings can be frustrating, by try to keep a level head when dealing with them. As for blocking, it's not excessive. Can't do much if it's a once in a while thing.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:34, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
::Oh, I thought you were part of staff? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 06:56, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
:::Also, just so you know, it's not a once-in-a-while thing. Erica124 made [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Walking_Pok%C3%A9mon&type=revision&diff=2756991&oldid=2756735 the same exact error] on the same article before, and [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AErica124&type=revision&diff=2808504&oldid=2771952 I did warn her about it once]. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 06:59, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
::::I am. A perma block is something that needs to be discussed with other staff members first, not just immediately executed, unless the user we're dealing with is a vandal.
::::Yes, but her recent spate of unpreviewed edits aren't happening as frequently as it did back in March. She's not editing daily. She only didn't use the preview button on one article today. The last one before today was June 15th, four days ago. And the one before that was last month. Compare it to March where it was almost daily. --[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 07:25, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
:::::Oh, okay. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 07:51, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

== Reply ==

Anything to say on my page? [[User:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|RubyLeafGreenCrystal]] ([[User talk:RubyLeafGreenCrystal|talk]]) 06:39, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

== Quick query==
This is present in the trivia section on the Slowbro page:

*Slowbro's Pokédex entries state that if the Shellder is removed, it will revert to its Slowpoke form.
**This is the only mentioning of a Pokémon possibly devolving anywhere in the Pokémon games, aside from a card in the game versions of the TCG.

The first part is fine, the second point is incorrect as Exeggutor can also revert. Should the second point be deleted entirely as it both untrue and not unique or altered to include a connection with Exeggutor

e.g Slowbro and Exeggutor are the only recorded cases of Pokémon capable of devolution [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 12:43, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
:The second point may be removed as it is not unique to one Pokémon.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 13:19, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

:: No worries, thank you.[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 13:40, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

== Poké Problem characters list ==

OK, so my recent edit of [[SM080]] was taken down by you on the basis that, since the Pokémon I put on the appearance list appeared exclusively in the episode's Poké Problem, it doesn't deserve a mention (since Poké Problems are part of the episode apparently). I've also noticed that some edits on [[SM079]] also got erased on the same reason. Yet previous episodes' character lists feature characters that only appeared in the episodes' Poké Problem segments (for example Brock & Misty's siblings in [[SM042]]'s case and Harper and Sarah for [[SM071]]). As such, I have to wonder why its sometimes okay for characters and Pokémon that appeared exclusively in the Poké Problem of an episode to be mentioned on the character lists of said episode, but other times it's not OK? [[User:Pulsaro23|Pulsaro23]] ([[User talk:Pulsaro23|talk]]) 17:03, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
:Then those need to removed from their episodes and any other episodes that list PokéProblem appearances needs to be fixed. PokéProblem is a segment similar to Who's That Pokémon, it is not part of the actual episode.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 13:57, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
::While I'll agree that the Poké Problem and Who's that Pokémon segments share a similarity (the fact that they are tied to a situation/Pokémon from the episode), they are also very different. By that I mean that, while the WtP segment doesn't have any impact on the overall story of the episode, the bonus scenes shown after the Poké Problem segments expand upon the story of the episode (personally, I'd say they're very similar to the after-credits scenes form the Marvel & DC movies). For example, the Poké Problem segments for SM022 and SM057 feature scenes that resolve the episodes' ending cliffhangers, while others, like the ones for SM042 and SM030, flesh out more of the characters' personality and traits, as well as showing their relationships with other characters. As such, I'd say that, while Poké Problem segments are really part of the main episode, they still have some degree of importance, since the scenes shown at the end of those segments expand upon the main theme/story/characters of the episode (and as such, they should, as you say, "count"). Plus, in the case of the XY series, characters that appeared exclusively in its Poké TV segments were mentioned on the appearance list for its episodes (e.g. XY096, XY099, XY106 etc.). So why should the Poké TV segments receive special treatment and the Poké Problem ones not? [[User:Pulsaro23|Pulsaro23]] ([[User talk:Pulsaro23|talk]]) 14:37, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

== Usage of the word "native" ==

{{user|PardescanSlowbro}} is [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Raichu_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29&type=revision&diff=2813914&oldid=2812285 concerned] about using the word "native" to describe the residents of [[Alola]] in the {{p|Raichu}} article, due to its connection to indigenous peoples who have been plagued with stereotypes and also its purported implicit nature as a development discourse, thus making it potentially offensive to some people. I did not see anything wrong with the word's usage, however, since it can alternatively be used as a synonym for "resident" or "citizen", as I [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2813930&oldid=2813886 pointed out to him]. He's still concerned and has [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:PardescanSlowbro&diff=next&oldid=2813930 pointed out] that official literature no longer uses the word, seemingly making it taboo, even though I have still heard it being used in the context I just described.

Do you think it is appropriate to use "native" in any shape or form here? I'm not aware of any other articles here that use the word. I do acknowledge the potential issue of indigenous peoples being offended, but I don't think anyone will be offended given the word's context in the Raichu article. What do you think? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 06:12, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
:It's fine to use the word "native". No need to think that someone will get offended by the word.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 09:44, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

:: You failed to acknowledge my concerns, and reverted my re-edit after GrammarFreak01 again deleted it. The latest addition aided the sentence in making it more concise, and as stated, the phrase 'the natives' is not used by the Pokémon Company in any of it literature, and probably for good measure. The term 'native' to mean local makes sense though should only be applied to describe an area or plant such as on the Vileplume page under the biology section. I would like another opinion as you have allowed a good edit to be reverted[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 05:52, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
:::It's very clear you changed the sentence because of your dislike of the word "native", whether it was a good change or not. You made the change because there was a word you didn't like. That's why it got reverted. There's is nothing wrong with using the word. The Pokémon Company not using it doesn't mean we can't use the word. You're thinking too much into the negative connotation of the word.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:00, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
:::: Negative connotations is your justification? I saw the term and looked at it as an opportunity to make a positive change in line with one of Bulbapedia's major aims, inclusivity. Allowing the phrase 'the natives' is an issue as it is loaded language and may be used on other pages in much the same way. But correcting the term to something more global and neutral has become the issue, leaving aside the issues associated with using this turn of phrase in the first place, even though the original editor of course had no intention of being racist or degrading to particular demographics. By actually allowing this term to pass through with your acceptance, you are also condoning the use of this term in much the same way across potentially other articles and it may enter people's own thoughts on people of different backgrounds. Inclusivity was my motivation because of the so-called negative and very true reality for many individuals on this planet, that terms like this are harmful. I cannot imagine the editor's guide has any detail on this specific turn of phrase, though it would diffidently be designed to uphold inclusivity of all peoples.[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 06:23, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
:::::You just admitted that the editor that added the word had no intention of being racist or degrading, if you already think that then it shouldn't be an issue. It's not offensive unless someone makes it offensive. The sentence is in no way written in an offensive manner, and no one will take it as an insult. You're looking to much into it.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:57, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
::::::I'm afraid you are wrong when it comes to the development discourse, it is an issue incidental or not. I am going to contact someone higher up to alert them to my concerns about the phrase, not word, "the natives", as you have plainly ignored the fact that such terminology is typically avoided due to taboo and discrimination surrounding it. Thanks [[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 07:06, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
:::::::When used correctly, "native" can also be "global and neutral". The only way it can be considered "loaded language" is if the person writing it in question ''makes'' it loaded language. I understand the history behind the word, and I also understand that the current political climate makes usage of certain words even more dangerous, but if the word has alternate meanings that are more acceptable, then I don't see why we must avoid using it, no matter how incidental the racism. If you have a problem with it, take it up with Merriam-Webster, not the admins here. If someone else does have a problem with it, we'll talk it out, see where it goes. But in the meantime, we can't simply just avoid using a certain word out of concern of potentially offending someone, even if the word in question is used in an appropriate, non-offensive context. I can't think of anyone else here who would think this word, or similarly loaded language of any kind, should be omitted in its entirety even though it's being used in a non-offensive context. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 07:11, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
::::::::Exactly. The word is not used in a derogatory manner, it is completely fine. It's all about context, and in this case, the context is not offensive. The only person that has a problem with it is you, Pardescan. And we won't change it just because one person thinks it may be offensive. I'll repeat this again, because you seem to be ignoring it, '''you are looking too much into the negative aspects of the word'''.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 07:32, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::It looks like [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AAbcboy&type=revision&diff=2814552&oldid=2806683 he's made good on his promise]. I've already pitched my counterargument. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 07:43, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

== Template mainspace request ==

For the new Light trio page, there would need to be six Pokémon in the stats section, but there is no such template. I made a [[User:Celadonkey/Template:Groupstats/6|template]] for it and I wanted to know if I could mainspace it to add to the Light trio page. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 14:05, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

== Integration of Spaceworld Iterations of Existing Pokémon ==

I felt I would ask this here, since you're the one who linked the in-progress pages for the Pokémon Gold/Silver Spaceworld demo and you seem to know what the plans for them are, and the Gold and Silver Beta discussion page is rather cluttered and doesn't seem like a good place to catch the attention of anybody in particular.

There are a number of Pokémon added for the demo that did end up being released as official Pokémon, such as the Mareep, and Phanpy lines, Crobat, Espeon, Umbreon, Miltank, and others, who are present in the Spaceworld demo build, sometimes with different names and subtly-different designs. Additionally, there are Pokémon such as Haneko, Poponeko, and Wataneko, Gift, Blissey, Scissors, Leafeon, etc. that are very obviously earlier drafts of Pokémon that would appear in Generation II or later.

Are these Pokémon going to be integrated into the site differently compared to, say, Pokémon like Honoguma, Kurusu, Norowara, Wolfman, or Twinz, that were very clearly cut entirely and have yet to appear in any official, publicly-released Pokémon game?

As an aside, how are name labels going to be handled for Pokémon such as Kingdra, Girafarig, and Bellossom, whose final names are already present and in use in the demo? It seems to me that the sensible thing to do would be to label them with their final English names, since the names they have do have official English-language counterparts, and it would be clearer and easier to read for readers who might be unfamiliar with with the Japanese names of those Pokémon.
[[User:Topaz Light|Topaz Light]] ([[User talk:Topaz Light|talk]]) 14:38, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
:Right now, the focus should be filling out the userpages with information before all that. The staff will figure out how the handle them in the mean time.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:58, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

== A Small Request ==

Hi. A while ago I had asked to be put in the forcepreview group for editing. If possible, I think I'm ready to edit without needing to look at all my edits beforehand. If you could please take me out of forcepreview, and abuse as well, I would really appreciate it. Thank you. [[User:Veralann|'''Incentive'''''' (a.k.a. Veralann)''']] 19:57, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
:I'll take you out of force preview, but not out of abuse. You have not made nearly enough mainspace edits to warrant be placed out of abuse. Being away for a month means absolutely nothing. If you want out of abuse, prove that you will contribute more to the mainspace by making a whole lot of edits there.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:04, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

== Random question ==

On the Pokemon articles, why do the Pokedex entry, location, and sprite tables always put Emerald before FireRed and LeafGreen even though Emerald was released after? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 18:42, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
:Probably to group the hoenn games together.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:18, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
::Thanks for answering, I guess. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 06:03, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

== Bulbapedia lagging again ==

It seems this site is becoming very laggy for me. Is there an issue with the site? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 06:28, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
:Site's running smoothly for me. Probably something on your end.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:37, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
::Well, it seems the site's running smoothly for me now. It might've had something to do with the connection. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 06:42, 16 July 2018 (UTC)

== List of locations by name ==

I personally think the page should stop excluding named routes. Even if we somehow made the definition clear, I still don't want people checking both that page and "list of routes" to see if either of them has the location they want. I also don't see a good reason for the exclusion. I think excluding cities and numbered routes is okay because people can tell if somewhere is a city or numbered route just by looking at the name. Even then, I'm leaning toward including cities because some places (like Two Island) don't end in "City" or "Town" and aren't obviously cities. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 05:40, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

== Staff imitating user ==

{{u|Форс файре}} is a cyrillisation of your name. --[[User:Raltseye|Raltseye]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 18:47, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

== Nintenchris5963 ==

The user {{user|Nintenchris5963}} added something to the [[Talk:Mt. Silver]] which I'm pretty sure isn't allowed on talk pages. Should the comment he made be removed or should it stay? (I'm only asking since it's normally not allowed to remove Talk Page comments). '''Ice''' [[User talk:The IceCream|Cream]] 10:46, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
:You can remove comments that breach the talk page policy.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 11:53, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

== "Faint" versus "Get knocked out" ==

"Faint" is the more technical term, so I try to change "knocked out" to "faint" wherever I can. Also, a few days ago, I tried to look for information about fainting by doing ctrl+f "faint" and couldn't find anything because the article said "knocked out" instead, so what I wanted took me a few minutes longer to find. I eventually made that edit in attempt to save time for anyone who might attempt the same thing in the future. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 15:03, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
:That sounds like a problem specifically for you. We are not going to cater the site whenever you face a problem. "Knocked out" carries the same meaning as "fainted", like what else could it possibly mean.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 15:21, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
::The reasons why "fainted" is better than "knocked out", however insignificant, exist. Is there a reason why "knocked out" is better than "fainted"? And aren't we supposed to use technical terms over "fanmade terms" whenever possible? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 23:25, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
:::Neither is better, but both '''mean the same thing in spirit''' (unable to battle). It's not a necessary change. And "knocked out" is not "fan made" it's just a word used to substitute "fainted". Using a word that is not official doesn't make the word "fan made", that's just being ridiculous. Don't change things because you couldn't find something, just because you couldn't find something doesn't mean everyone else will face the same problem.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 02:57, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
::::If neither is better, why do you care which one the article says? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 17:28, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
:::::Because it's an '''unnecessary change'''. Just because we use another word other than fainted, doesn't make that word fan-made. Like in a plot synopsis, we're not going to use the term "fainted" every time a Pokémon faints, we're going to use other terms like "knocked out" from time to time. Y'know, have a bit of variety in our articles.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:12, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
::::::That section was a game mechanic, not a plot synopsis. Aren't they different? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 17:45, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
:::::::That's not the point. The point is, '''it's an unnecessary change'''. Stop reading what you want to read. It doesn't matter if it's not using the word "faint". Using another word other than "faint" doesn't make the article more inaccurate. It's just a word. You're thinking too much into it. No one will get confused by the term "knocked out". They'll know what it means.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:09, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
:::::I think what Force Fire tries to tell you isn't "don't change specifically this to specifically that", it's rather "don't change '''anything''' if the change doesn't clearly improve the article". The larger the number of edits, the more work there is for the servers; we should only change anything if it's justified. That's why he cares which one of the equally good terms stays — because changing it will unnecessarily overload servers. First come, first served in this case. [[User:Kikugi|Kikugi]] ([[User talk:Kikugi|talk]]) 15:37, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

== Mallow Tsareena Sweet Scent ==

Hi. So in SM082 Mallow's Tsareena does something that some would describe as Sweet Scent, as it has a similar appearance and effect to how the move was used in its pre-evolved forms. PlayerKing95 has removed it because we don't have enough proof, despite the evidence pointing towards it. I, as well as another user, has reached out to him to discuss it. It has been more than a week now and he has ignored multiple messages to resolve this issue, and it is making me think that he will continue to ignore messages because it means the page can't be changed. Could I get some help with this? Thank you. --[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 14:48, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
:I have given him a message. I currently have no strong opinions on this matter, generally we can say it's Sweet Scent because the animation is unlikely to change upon evolution. But I'm interested in what Playerking has to say.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 15:11, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
::Thank you, looks like he finally responded to it. Based on his answer is it safe to put Sweet Scent back on, as there doesn't seem to be an argument against it.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 16:14, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
:::Hello again. It's been a couple weeks and I was wondering what the status of Sweet Scent is. Thanks.--[[User:Rahl|Rahl]] ([[User talk:Rahl|talk]]) 13:59, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

== Random question ==

When I type just about anything in the search bar, the autocomplete suggestions always appear in the same order. For example, typing only "user:" always displays "User:Tiddlywinks", "User:Force Fire", "User:Raltseye", "User:SnorlaxMonster", etc. in that order. Do you have any idea what determines that order? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 04:12, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
:Pretty sure the ordering is just random.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:18, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
::If it was completely random, would it still put more active users closer to the top? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 04:35, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
:::It's probably fixed, random but fixed. The listing probably wouldn't change regardless of how active a user is.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:51, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
::::It could be fixed by the most visisted user pages. --[[User:Raltseye|Raltseye]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 11:00, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

== Reason ==

Could you give a summary rather than only reverting a contribution without reason, that's irritating. {{unsigned|KyleRGiggs}}

:He's reverting you because this is the mandatory writing style for a recurring character in the anime and you're pointlessly changing it at [[Professor Burnet]]. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 04:45, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
::Exactly. Your reasoning for removing it didn't even make sense, and if you actually read other anime character articles, other recurring characters also use the term "reappears".--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:51, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
:::So DID both of you read the article CAREFULLY why "Since their marriage, Burnet has moved in with Kukui and Ash and '''has made regular appearances''' in the Sun & Moon series ever since." is present in the sentence? So why don't Professor Kukui being "reappear" for every episode? Regular appearancing should not be recurring? I don't get the sense. {{unsigned|KyleRGiggs}}
::::Just because someone makes regular appearances, doesn't mean we can't use the word "reappear". Besides, the two don't appear that regularly, especially for Burnet who only appeared once in between SM071-80 (not counting the PokeProblem segment) and Kukui only physically appears four times in that 10 episode span. And sign your comments.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:18, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
:::::I did read that sentence. To be honest, that sentence needs to be reworded. As Force Fire said, it's not as regular as that sentence implies. If she did appear "regularly", then she'd actually be a main character, and then the need to list every episode she appears in is diminished. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 05:46, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

== Random stuff ==

Since I last contacted you, I've come up with a few new things to ask every now and then, but they keep slipping my mind when I don't talk about them. Hence why I've decided to dedicate this section of the talk page for subjects that I come up with and need admin help for, which means that I may sometimes come back here when I come up with something new. But anyway, let's get started with the most recent subject I've come up with: the [[Looker]] Bureau post-game story from {{pkmn|X and Y}}. Since the [[Delta Episode]] and [[Episode RR]] have their own pages, shouldn't the Looker Bureau storyline also get its own article? I think it would deserve it. 
Oh, and speaking of new articles: has my suggestion of splitting the Kantonian Gym and Tide Song Hotel into their own location articles been moving forward? Has it received enough approval to actually be done some day? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 10:17, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
:I did bring them (Kantonian Gym and Tide Song Hotel) up with the other staff members, didn't really come to a solid conclusion. For me, they both appear to have very little information text wise (from what is already there), and what we don't want are articles that are just one paragraph and a whole bunch of templates. I think it'd be good to create them in your userspace to see how the page will look.
:The Looker saga could be made into it's own page. Make on in your userpage so the staff can decide if it's needed.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:22, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
::I've created the page for the Kantonian Gym [[User:FinnishPokéFan92/Kantonian Gym|here]], and I also intend to start making the Tide Song Hotel and Looker Bureau pages as soon as I find the time for it. In the meantime, though, there's a couple of other things I would like to bring up.
::Firstly, [[Talk:Serena (game)#Father? (revived)|this talk]] regarding the X and Y rival's father. Evidence heavily suggests that Calem/Serena's father is a Veteran Trainer who can be found in [[Snowbelle City]], but for the last bit of confirmation, we need someone who can read Japanese. Could you ask someone to help with that?
::And secondly... Secondly... Well, this is ''exactly'' why I should come here to vent ideas out of my head more often. I've forgotten my second point. Embarrassing, I know, but I'll come back to it once I remember it.
::--[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 07:22, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
::Ah, I remember now! Some time ago, I created a category for {{cat|Legendary and Mythical Pokémon locations}}, my intention being to have it attached to the {{template|legendarylocations}} template. However, said template is protected, so I'd need help from a user like you to put it there. Could you do it? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:59, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
:::I've brought the Kantonian Gym page to the others. There was talks of the Serena's father issue a while back, I think one of the staff members found in game text supporting it, though I asked again to be sure. Navigation templates only need the Navigation template category, the category you provided would go on the actual location pages.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 09:59, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
::::Thanks, looking forward to the results.
::::Yes, it's been proven that the gender pronoun used by the supposed father changes depending on the player character's gender, but we now also have links to two Japanese videos to see if this occurs in the Japanese version too, which could count as the final piece of evidence, and is why we need someone who can understand Japanese to confirm it.
::::I mean like this: <nowiki><includeonly>[[Category:Legendary and Mythical Pokémon locations]]</includeonly></nowiki> When a category is attached to a template like this, it will only apply to the pages where said template is used at, not the template itself. That's what I would like you to do, if possible.
::::--[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 10:56, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
:::::I've now finished the Tide Song Hotel page as well. You can find it [[User:FinnishPokéFan92/Tide Song Hotel|here]]. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:20, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
::::::Excuse the delay. The Looker bureau post game story can be made, with the title "Looker events" as that is what it's called in-game, according to another staff member. Haven't gotten much feedback regarding the other stuff that you brought up. I'll keep you updated regarding those.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 07:14, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
:::::::Thanks for the update. Will do. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:45, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
::::::::I haven't started working on the Looker evernts yet, but I haven't forgotten about them. In the meantime, though, there's an issue that has been bugging me for years now, which nobody has appparently done anything to fix yet. I'm talking about Generation VI models. Not only are we still missing most VS models from at least one set of the Generation VI core series games, we are also still missing a couple VS models: [[Archie]] and [[Zinnia]] are missing their VS models altogether (they've been using temporary ones for years now), and {{an|Brendan}} and {{an|May}} are missing their VS models with a [[Key Stone|Mega Bracelet]]. I've also wondered if the difference between the {{tc|Team Flare Grunt}}s who are striking a pose and those who aren't would warrant alternate VS models for them, but that's a lesser priority in my books.
::::::::And, as for a more recent case of the same issue, we're still missing several US/UM VS models as well, including the {{tc|Master & Apprentice}} and {{tc|Sparring Partners}} VS models and [[Gladion]]'s VS model with a Z-Power Ring. Could you bring this up with people who could possibly fix these issues? I've tried to do it myself a couple times over the years, but it has never lead to anything. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 09:02, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
::::::::Oh, almost forgot! [[Giovanni]]'s first VS model is a bit dark, and [[Professor Kukui]] is also missing his model with the Z-Power Ring. PS. Has the Serena/Calem father topic been solved? Can it be considered confirmed? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 11:18, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::The VS sprites are something that is still ongoing, it just gets lower and lower on the priority list whenever something new comes around. It's something that will be done, "when" I can't really say for sure. Users are free to upload the models themselves, granted they get it from somewhere that isn't a fan site.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 11:54, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
::::::::::Figures. I'm just a guy who hates incompleteness, so these lingering cases of incompleteness tend to bug me a lot. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:17, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::::For a while now already, I've been planning a massive edit project, where I go over '''every single''' page with a Stadium and Stadium 2 party template, and change the number of Poké Balls in the template(s) to 3 instead of 6 (since only three of the six Pokémon are always used per battle), as well as remove the word "Pokémon" from the game name, as it isn't that way in any other game party templates either. But that's why I've come here for you this time: in preparation for this project, could you edit {{template|Party/Single}} to include codes for Stadium and Stadium 2 in the game name section? And while we're on the topic of this template, do the Battle Chatelaines alone warrant a combined code for X, Y, OR, and AS, and the few version-exclusive Battle Tree Trainers from Generation VII codes for S/US and M/UM, respectively? PS. I hope you understood that last part. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:51, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::::Thanks. I saw you just doing this, and I'm honestly really grateful for it, but in case you didn't know, when we refer to "Pokémon Stadium", the link should go to "[[Pokémon Stadium (English)]]", instead of just "[[Pokémon Stadium]]". --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 07:37, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::::Never mind. You noticed that yourself. Sorry. XP --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 07:38, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

{{indent}}Added Stadium/2 to the template. As for changing the Poké Ball number, I'm iffy about it. I get what you're saying, but they still have six possible Pokémon. As for the last request, I assume you mean for the party template?, if so, they're already coded in.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 07:40, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
:Yeah. Personally, I'm inclined to keep the six Poké Balls too, but, as you can see {{DL|Professor Kukui|Battle Royal Dome|here}}, for example, some user(s) apparently think that the number of shown Poké Balls should be equal to the maximum number of Pokémon that can be used from said selection of Pokémon at a time. Hence why most [[Pokémon World Tournament|PWT]] teams have six Balls, since all six Pokémon are used if the [[Triple Battle]] format is in used. Then there's also the case where the pool of possible Pokémon is greater than six, but I can understand that one.
:As for the codes, I meant as in a code of "XYORAS" turning out as "X, Y, Omega Ruby, and Alpha Sapphire", and codes "SUS" and "MUM" turning out as "Sun and Ultra Sun" and "Moon and Ultra Moon", respectively. However, as I said, the former would only apply to the four {{tc|Battle Chatelaine}}s, while the latter ones would only apply for the few [[Battle Tree]] Special Trainers who are version-exclusive, so I wondered if that's a good enough reason for those codes to be created. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 09:26, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
::For the Kukui article, I think the line "Master Rank challenge of the Battle Royal, using three of the following Pokémon" will suffice. If they're confused, then they are just flat out not reading the article. As for the stadium articles, I think a similar line could work.
::Ah I see, I've added the code for those.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 09:45, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
:::Thanks a ton! Now there's nothing stopping me from starting my grand edit project! And it's going to be even easier I expected, thanks to you!
:::Nice work... Except that you made a small typo. You accidentally wrote "SUM" instead of "MUM" for "Moon and Ultra Moon". --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 11:18, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
::::Another small typo found. The link for Stadium 2 leads just to "Pokémon Stadium". You forgot the "2" from the end. Whoops...
::::Also, another unrelated thing: in Pokémon Colosseum, the player character starts the game off with a number of healing items in their Bag. Does this qualify as a method of acquiring these items for their respective articles? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:52, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
:::::Fixed. As for the items, I'd say those count.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 07:02, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
::::::I think we need a link template to make the Alola game links easier to create, as writing "<nowiki>[[Pokémon Sun and Moon|Pokémon Sun, Moon]], [[Pokémon Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon|Ultra Sun, and Ultra Moon]]</nowiki>" for a link version of "Pokémon Sun, Moon, Ultra Sun, and Ultra Moon" again and again can get tiresome, plus it eats up a lot of unnecessary space. I'd do it myself, but I'm not sure how, so I've come to ask for your help again. Can you do it, or at least ask someone else to do it? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 09:30, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
:::::::Took a while to remember what the template was, but [[Template:Game4]] exists, though I edited it to add USUM. Typing the code <nowiki>{{game4|Sun|Moon|Sun|Moon}}</nowiki> should give you this: {{game4|Sun|Moon|Sun|Moon}}.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 11:54, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
::::::::Thank you! Also, another issue regarding link templates: when adding a link to a Pokémon's alternate form, it's usually written as <nowiki>{{DL|List of Pokémon with form differences|<Pokémon>|<Form name>}}</nowiki>, which, like the previous thing you fixed, is a bit lengthy, especially if done repeatedly. So I've been thinking about the creation of a link template to fix the issue, going something like this: <nowiki>{{form|<Pokémon>|<Form name>}}</nowiki>, which would lead to the correct section of [[List of Pokémon with form differences]], based on the contents of the second slot (the one with <Pokémon> in my example here). Do you think this could/should be made? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 13:58, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
::::::::Also, I just noticed: your edit on {{template|game4}} was a bit flawed. The "Sun and Moon" part of the link includes the word "Versions", even though it's not supposed to. I saw you fixed this issue regarding the "Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon" part of the link, but it seems you still missed something. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 06:04, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
::::::::Did you miss my above messages? Or have you just been too busy to answer yet? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:55, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::I purposely left the "versions" in the first link as I wasn't confident whether adding a switch would mess the template up and mess up other pages that are using the template, so I didn't risk it. I'll bring up to idea for a "form template" to the other staff members, though I think it's a fine idea.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:45, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::::1) Oh. I see. Well, I've already used the template on a couple pages, so now what? 2) Thank you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 13:32, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
::::::::::::Just leave the ones you've added. I'll tweak the template in a userspace at some point. As for the form template, [[User:Abcboy/Form|Abcboy]] has already made a template in his userpage, that'll be under consideration.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 13:03, 27 September 2018 (UTC)
{{indent}}Thank you. Also, whoa. It appears that this template idea wasn't as new as I thought. Let's hope it'll finally get mainspaced some day. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 14:04, 27 September 2018 (UTC)
:Thanks for helping me out with {{user|EternalDragonX}}. He also left a reply to your response already, just in case you haven't noticed yet. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:45, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
::He still doesn't believe either of us. Could you do something about it? And, if possible, could you continue the talk with him on his page instead of mine? PS. His refusal to use big capital letters in talk pages irks me. I know there's technically nothing wrong with it, but if you see fit to notify him about it too, then please do. If you don't, I won't hold it against you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 16:18, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
:::A few days ago, he started arguing with me about [[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92#viridian gym|another subject (s)]]. Please help me. I'm seriously growing tired of this. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:39, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
::::I'll leave a message on their talk page.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 03:01, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
:::::Thank you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 05:55, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

== Undoing changes ==

Please, don't revert changes as I add information that a [[Focus Sash]] can be stolen from [[Iris]]' {{p|Haxorus}} during all the battles. I don't want to cause an edit war, but I placed the information in the correct row ({{gameabbrev5|B2W2}}). [[User:TheICTLiker4|TheICTLiker4]] ([[User talk:TheICTLiker4|talk]]) 06:56, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
:And as Finnish said, you don't permanently keep the item. It doesn't count.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 07:14, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

== Status ==

What does "status" mean when used to describe Bulbapedia users? Like, how do we know the difference between "hiatus" and "inactive"? How long of a break counts as a hiatus? What does "X" mean? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 01:31, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
:If someone is on "hiatus", that means they are away for some time but will return eventually, how long the hiatus is differs between staff members. "Inactive" is detailed {{bp|Inactive Staff|here}}. X denotes someone of high authority, they may not be very active but they are still very important staff members.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 11:54, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
::If someone says he/she/it is on hiatus and doesn't come back, then how long does it usually take for other people to change that person's status to "inactive"? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 18:18, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
:::That decision is up to the Editor in Chief.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:34, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
::::Okay thanks. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 00:07, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

== Possible inappropriate name ==

Someone under {{user|RAEVEisdumb}} was created after someone called {{user|RAEVE}} was just created. Should it be flagged? '''Ice''' [[User talk:The IceCream|Cream]] 19:43, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
:I've blocked the former but left the latter unblocked. I ''could'' block them both since they both share the same IP, but since RAEVE hasn't done anything yet, I'll leave them unblocked unless they become a problem.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:34, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

== PardescanSlowbro again ==

I have tried to offer [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2840364&oldid=2826236 constructive criticism] on PardescanSlowbro's spelling of "compliment" in [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Tyson_%28Hoenn%29&type=revision&diff=2840264&oldid=2834631 this edit], but once again, he responded with paranoia, a refusal to cooperate, and accusations of edit-stalking ([https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2840597&oldid=2840364] [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2840645&oldid=2840640] [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2840648&oldid=2840647] [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2840661&oldid=2840649]). In the last diff, he even had the gall to tell me I shouldn't be contacting anyone if that's how I'm going to talk to people. This is in spite of me [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3APardescanSlowbro&type=revision&diff=2840647&oldid=2840645 admitting that my original message unintentionally did not come across as constructive and apologizing for that]. I cannot even talk about the most basic constructive criticism with this guy, and it is so frustrating. I was actually hoping I could have a more in-depth discussion about his writing style in regards to his recent edits, but given that he's always reacting like this in some form or fashion, I cannot muster the courage to talk to him, no matter what the subject is. I can't even properly talk to him about the minor stuff (silly, I know, but I can't even talk to him about the major stuff in the first place). I talk to other users the same way I'm talking to him, yet he's always the one who responds with hostility and vitriol. I'm really not trying to be malicious towards him or anything like that. Can you please comment on this? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 08:59, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

== Grammarfreak at it again ==
I know, you're very busy. But it seems that Grammarfreak are trying everything to post his/her claim are right. While everyone is wrong. Especially, when he illegally created it voice actress article without admin permission. Especially for trying to make it sounds he taken command of everything. If you can, could you please ban him/her. I tired of his aggression and persistent changing the sentences to be great. Thank you! [[User:Singaporean|Singaporean]] ([[User talk:Singaporean|talk]]) 02:57, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

:[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ASingaporean&type=revision&diff=2843736&oldid=2839035 I already told you], I didn't know you already had a userspace article for [[Sumire Morohoshi]] in the works, and I'm sorry about that! That aside, how is that "illegal"? I admitted it was a mistake caused by a lazy eye. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 03:18, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
:: You know, you create with one article after another without admin permission is already officially illegal. That is also included disrespectful to me after all the hard work, I have done and learns to make a better article. But it seems that, you had a history of pattern aggressive toward everybody. I wasn't surprised, your primary target now is me. It wasn't take every long in a next few day. You will ditch my all my userspace edited and try to create one to waste more page to fill in the empty to draw attention to everyone. Remind you again, this is not your playground of editing. [[User:Singaporean|Singaporean]] ([[User talk:Singaporean|talk]]) 03:28, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
:::A while back, I [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:Tiddlywinks#Creating_Japanese_voice_actor_articles asked] {{U|Tiddlywinks}} about the process of creating VA articles, and they directed me to [[Bulbapedia:Project VA]] without mentioning anything else. The main project page ''never'', ''EVER'' said anything about having to consult with the admins first before the creation of an individual article, and trust me, I read through that thing thoroughly. I've been at this since last month, and no one has given me any warnings or blocked me for creating so many VA articles during that time. This is in comparison to [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:GrammarFreak01/Archive_1#Creating_pages the warning I got] from Tiddlywinks hours after I created the [[Ash's Pikachu (M20)]] article (which was what motivated me to ask Tiddlywinks about the VA articles in the first place). Because of all that, I took it that my actions were already cleared by Tiddlywinks and I didn't even have to worry about asking the admins any further.

:::If it was supposed to be common sense for me to just alert the admins about the creation of any kind of article beforehand, then I do apologize for that. I was simply following everything that was laid out for me at [[Bulbapedia:Project VA]], with the misconception that Tiddlywinks was alright with everything simply because I contacted him only once before my article creation spree. And ''trust me'', I am now reviewing all of the other userspace articles you've got so I will know which VAs you are already working on. I'm so sorry if you felt cheated and that your hard work on the Morohoshi userspace article was wasted because of me. I swear, I was not aware of that userspace article, and that is not going to happen again, I promise. Especially now that you've got your own eye on me and my conduct. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 03:48, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
::::Regardless of your apologize to me or not. The action will be leave to [[User:Force Fire|Force Fire]] to dealt with. Even though of the risk for me being banned one more time again. I also satisfied. [[User:Singaporean|Singaporean]] ([[User talk:Singaporean|talk]]) 03:57, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
:::::I'm well aware that it's all up to Force Fire, given the severity of your complaints against me. I'm just trying to explain what you would call my more egregious actions. I at least have that right to do so, don't I? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 03:59, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

GrammarFreak already clarified that he didn't see your userpage, Singaporean. No need to overreact the way you did. He apologized, move on. Anyone can create a VA article, granted that it fits the notability criteria. Users can make it on the mainspace, '''only if''' they are capable of making it up to Bulbapedia standards upon making the article (to which I feel GrammarFreak did). And don't take that as an invitation to create VA article on the mainspace, Singaporean.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 07:18, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
:If you say so, then I will go ahead and create all my remaining work directly without the need of my userspace. Thanks. [[User:Singaporean|Singaporean]] ([[User talk:Singaporean|talk]]) 12:30, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
::No. I '''did not''' say you can make them in the mainspace. I literally said it in my response. The ones you made on your userspace still needs to be approved. And that is '''NOT''' how you move userpages to the mainspace.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:59, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
:::My apologized for my rush work. I didn't know about it. It is already almost a year and I didn't heard anything about you and the other approved my work to main article is just really frustrating. I do hope, you can give me an answer after a few days later. Thank you! [[User:Singaporean|Singaporean]] ([[User talk:Singaporean|talk]]) 13:05, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

== A strange user talk page ==

Hello and sorry if I'm bothering you, but I started to wonder, if such content as [[User talk:CarterLumpkins|this]] is OK to have on one's user talk page. This doesn't seem to aggressively promote some service, thought it does have a weblink. However, the topic is so NOT Pokémon... is this allowed? Is this evidence of a spammer? The user page was created three minutes before the talk page. Thank you! [[User:Kikugi|Kikugi]] ([[User talk:Kikugi|talk]]) 12:33, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
:Dealt with. Those are usually spambots.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:55, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

== Search bar problems ==

I just started having a problem with the search bar at the left of my screen. Every time I type something in, it won't show me a list of options, and every time I try to look up a list of pages containing a certain word(s), it won't show the lists. Instead, there's a message that reads, "An error has occurred while searching: We could not complete your search due to a temporary problem. Please try again later." I definitely know I'm not misspelling anything. What's going on with that? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 04:15, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
:Staff are aware of the issue and will try to get to the bottom of it asap.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:01, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
::Okay. That's good to know. Thanks for the heads-up. :) [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 05:06, 9 September 2018 (UTC)

== Internal error ==

Occasionally, since about last week, I've been getting these "Internal error" messages every time I try to submit an edit. I manage to get through it, but the frequency of these messages is starting to increase and I don't know what's going on. This is an example of the "Internal error" message I tend to get.

[8e5e0cf8d713375f0b2bb8b3] 2018-09-17 04:55:29: Fatal exception of type "Error"

Would you mind getting to the bottom of this? Thank you. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 04:57, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

:I'm still getting these messages with intensifying frequency. Here's the latest one:

[d52bf67181c53700b65c1f44] 2018-09-18 04:52:01: Fatal exception of type "Error"

:[[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 04:53, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
::Staff are aware of the issues and are looking into it.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:58, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
:::Thank you. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 19:19, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

::::I'm not sure what's being done to rectify this problem, nor do I presume to know, but for the record, I'm still having these problems. Here's the latest one I got:

[39026dee922ac834907c8f6e] 2018-09-20 07:23:46: Fatal exception of type "Error"

::::[[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 07:25, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

:::::My apologies, but this problem is still happening for me. Is the staff still investigating the issue? Or did they think they found a solution and implemented it already? Not that I doubt anyone's effectiveness in this matter. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 23:43, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
::::::Still haven't heard back on whether the problem was fixed or not, but I'll ping the higher ups about the issue.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:31, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
:::::::Okay, thanks. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 04:45, 13 October 2018 (UTC)

== Transfer-only moves and ability changes ==

Can we add a section to every Pokemon page that lists all the moves the Pokemon can know only if it originated in an earlier generation (move tutors, old TMs, etc.)? Cross-checking multiple pages for this information is annoying. Second, can we change the Pokemon infobox template to make pages like {{p|Pelipper}} clear that Pelipper can't have drizzle in Generations 3-6? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 18:06, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

== Zlblosser18 ==

A little heads-up, it looks like in spite of [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AZlblosser18&type=revision&diff=2853997&oldid=2853990 your advice], Zlblosser18 is still [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Charmander_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29&type=revision&diff=2855104&oldid=2855092 removing templates]. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 20:22, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

:It also seems like they're disregarding [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Zlblosser18&diff=prev&oldid=2855095 my advice] that titles like [[Pokémon Origins]] and [[Pokémon Generations]] are not traditionally italicized here. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 20:25, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
::Looks like TiddlyWinks has given them a final warning. --[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:33, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
:::Seems like it. I'll withdraw the complaint, then. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 05:02, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

== floor order cont ==

im confused, youre saying the ordering will be RBY>GSC>FRLG>HGSS regardless of floor order? so do you mean list all rby items before gsc or put them together if there are two items on the same floor? yes, i am using common sense by not putting an item deep in the dungeon first, but what if said deep item were to be on one of the earlier floors if not the earliest? then floor order dictates i would have to list said item before many of the other items i pass by before i even get to it. thats why floor order is bad. i know were not a walkthrough, but we have to list the items in one way or another, and like you said, it should make sense atleast right? I understand that it is not a "high" priority. but if i can list in an order that makes sense, why not? is floor order really a higher priority? again im trying to say that floor order is bad. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 12:58, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
:Yes, the game order will still be the same regardless of the template going by floor order. If an items exist in more than one set of games and is in the same location, the games get put together.
:Just so we're on the same page here, when you say "deep" you mean tucked in the furthest part of the first floor, right? Because there's no way the place I just described could be the first thing you come across. If you mean if the player traverses from the opposite end (say Victory Road, Pokemon League entrance to Route 22 entrance), then that's not really important. The location ordering should be from the player's first run through of the area (so Route 22 to Pokemon League).
:Sorting by floor order helps users see what items are available at a certain floor in one grouping. It'd actually be ''more'' confusing if the listing were to alternate between "Floor 1" and "Floor 2", especially if there's suddenly a "Basement floor" in between them.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 14:43, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
::may i suggest instead of RBY>GSC>FRLG>HGSS, that it be RBY>FRLG>GSC>HGSS? because rby frlg are basically the same games and a lot of the time they will have items that are common to all of them, but also a lot of the time frlg will have some new items, and shoving gsc items in between would not only look weird, but confusing.
::yes i mean for example tucked away in a place on the first floor that also serves as the back exit. therefore in a regular playthrough, most players would pick up said item last, since you run by every other item before it. victory road is a perfect example of what im talking about. of course i wouldnt list the items as if they were going from indigo plateau to route 22. that makes no sense. if you look at the list: https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Victory_Road_(Kanto)#Items i list guard spec ultra ball and full restore on floor 2 after overheat on floor 3. why? because those 3 items are grouped in an area in floor 2 that can only be accessible after passing through the entirety of floor 3; the area in this case being the exit. so in my head, this ordering makes perfect sense. blindly following floor order would mean i would list these items before the max revive, which again i dont think makes much sense since we talked about how they literally cant be come acrossed before the floor 3 items. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 18:11, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
:::Any unpredictable order is bad. A reasonable person would generally expect to see everything for a floor together. If I see several items that start with something like 1F, 2F, 1F, 3F, 5F (or whatever), it just looks messy to me. Nothing that extreme may occur in the games, but that's what your logic would demand. (And less extreme examples are still messy IMO.)
:::It's not exactly hard to look back to the "end" of a floor if there were items you just couldn't get to when you passed through the first part (if floors are grouped). But if floors aren't grouped, then if I see several items starting with "2F" and then that turns into "3F", I'm gonna think those were all the items on 2F in the list, and that can be very confusing. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:34, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
::::altho i still believe that 1F, 2F, 1F, 3F, 5F (or whatever) would be better if it made sense that you'd get the items that way, i have argued my point to the fullest and i can respect it if you disagree. however, still waiting on you force fire to answer my question about listing the items in region order rather than game order. aka kanto>johto>hoenn etc. over rby>gsc>frlg etc. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 00:57, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
:::::Ordering the games by RBY>FRLG>GSC>HGSS is fine, some (or a majority of) articles are like this.
:::::So we are talking about the same thing, that brings up the question of why you are concerned about having to place an item that is deep in a dungeon as the first item. As I said, the order should be listed on the players first run through of the area. You don't need to worry about those that'll traverse the opposite way.
:::::As for items that can only be accessed via another floor, group those under all the other Floor 2 items and say in the descriptor that it requires traversing through Floor 3. Putting those items below Floor 3 makes it a touch confusing, and also a bit walkthrough-ish. I guess it's just me being condescending, but players should be able figure that stuff (having to traverse through floor 3 to get to some floor 2 items) for themselves. And ass TiddlyWinks said, listing the items by floor looks much more cleaner and easier on the eyes.
:::::Also, I saw and checked that you changed the template to be one big listing rather than separate listings. Maybe that should've been discussed first before making the edit. --[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:47, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
::::::i am concerned about having to place an item that is deep as the first item because if for example it was one of, if not the only, items on the first accessible floor (say floor 1), but not accessible unless you traverse one of the other floors (say floor 2), then we gotta list it first even tho you probably get the other items on floor 2 before it. you already answered this in your 3rd paragraph. like i said to tiddlywinks if u guys feel like floor order is cleaner then fine. i also like your solution of putting in the descriptor that it requires traversing through floor 3. i think ill do that. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 14:33, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
::::::about putting in the descriptor that obtaining an item requires traversing another floor.. would you just list that as a sentence at the end? or would you like put it in an asterisk at the end? --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 15:24, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
:::::::Examples of these sorts of explanations/directions can be seen on pages like [[Frost Cavern]], [[Victory Road (Kalos)]], and [[Haina Desert]]. The descriptions should be easily readable, which tooltips are not (mobile users cannot read them at all AFAIK). The only reason to consider a tooltip would be if the detail is exceptionally long. (Because a very long description is, itself, also not the most readable thing.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:24, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

== Satomi Kōrogi ==

I need help moving the [[Satomi Kōrogi]] article. The romanization seems to prefer using Satomi K'''oo'''rogi instead but I am unable to move the article because of a redirect interfering. Thank you. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 22:33, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
:Moved.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 03:01, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
::Thanks! :D [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 03:18, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

== Transfer-only moves and ability changes ==

Can we add a section to every Pokemon page that lists all the moves the Pokemon can know only if it originated in an earlier generation (move tutors, old TMs, etc.)? Cross-checking multiple pages for this information is annoying. Second, can we change the Pokemon infobox template to make pages like {{p|Pelipper}} clear that Pelipper can't have drizzle in Generations 3-6? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 20:34, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
:I personally see no need in listing transferable moves, it's common sense. Of course a Pokémon that only knows X move in Gen III is going to know it if you transfer it to a Gen vII game. And it's really not much of a nuisance. Want a to know a Pokémon's moveset from a specific generation? go to the separate learnlists. Want a specific move? go to the specific move article. It's not ''that'' annoying.
:The infobox templates is currently in discussions of an update. The update will accommodate having more abilities listed. Have patience.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 07:05, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
::The whole purpose of learnset sections was to put every move that a Pokemon can know in one place, right? If the learnset sections are not doing that, what other purpose do they have? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 19:47, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
:::It's to list moves a Pokémon can learn in the '''current''' generation. Transferring moves isn't exactly "learning a move by level up or breeding in Generation VII". If a Pokémon can only learn a move in a previous generation, go to that generation's learnset or the move's article. You're only clicking one link, not 500. It's not as mundane as you're making it out to be.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:29, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
::::It appears to me you're just saying how another question is easy to answer.
::::If you're seriously interested in this (not just stalling), let me suggest (with best intentions) to just try to answer "What moves can Pikachu '''''know''''' in a copy of, say, USUM?" by browsing Bulbapedia. I currently need more than 5 minutes, and I would consider this ''the'' central use case, and probably the most important question for competitive play. (It's not even easy to be confident the resulting list was exhaustive, so if you'd like, you may even post your list here, and let me see if I have any more.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 09:46, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
:::::Saying "what can Pikachu learn in USUM" is literally the same as saying "what can Pikachu learn in Gen VII". Not Gen II. Not Gen IV. Saying a specific game means you're looking for a learnset from a specific generation. And it certainly does not take "more than 5 minutes" to find what you want. If you know what you're looking for, you have a Pokémon and move/generation in mind, it should only take you one minute top. A few clicks. You're not going to be scouring the entire site just to look for one move.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 11:43, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
::::::Neither of these question were asked, you just continue to answer them.
::::::Pikachu can ''know'' moves in USUM that it cannot ''learn'' in USUM, {{m|Mega Kick}}, for example. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 12:10, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
:::::::It's called a learnlist for a reason, moves a Pokémon can learn in a game or generation. Of course it'll know a move from a previous generation if you transfer it to a current game, that does not need to be spelled out. No one is going to think that it won't know the move once they transfer the Pokémon. If users want to know what moves it can learn previously, they can browse the site.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:24, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
{{indent}}I'm not sure you understand me/us (or even try to, really). So, just for me to get this clear: Are you saying that, in your opinion, a) the question "What moves can <species> '''''know''''' in <game/generation>?" is not relevant, not worthwhile for Bulbapedia to easily provide an answer to, and that b) species pages should only provide moves a Pokémon can ''learn'' in the current generation? [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 14:14, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
:It's not hard to find what you're looking for, all you're doing is clicking on one link, totaling up to a few seconds. If you had to go through page after page, I can get why it'd be annoying or hard. But it's not.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 14:39, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
::I'm beginning to feel confident you're just stalling. I'm asking questions, I don't get answers.
::I'll just continue trying to keep this simple: Please list all moves Pikachu can know (in a USUM game). If it's not hard, I'd be glad to hear that it's easily possible using Bulbapedia (and preferably also how). Also (and in particular if you're unable or unwilling to list all of Pikachu's moves), please answer the two questions I just asked, a) and b). [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 15:02, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
:::Bulbapedia is not a strategy guide. Comp is not our focus.
:::You're highlighting comp as your reason for a promoting "moves a [species] can know" angle. But there's a bunch of comp stuff we're never going to do. We're not doing tier lists. We're not gonna tell you what "good" movesets are. Comp is no reason that we would "have" to accomodate anything.
:::That's not to say we're thoroughly hostile to a list of "legacy" moves.
:::But kind of like ForceFire has said, learnlists ARE for what a Pokemon can learn ''within'' a generation. It doesn't ''strictly'' make sense to include "legacy" moves; that's a concern that comes from a pretty specific focus like comp/challenges.
:::Yes, it would be somewhat easier if we had a list of legacy moves. But (to repeat myself) that's not necessarily our focus and you ''can'' figure the information out if you really need to.
:::(And to repeat myself once more, we're not hostile to a legacy move list. I just can't tell you if/when it might happen at the moment.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:39, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
::::Thanks, Tiddlywinks.
::::I may be highlighting comp as the use case, and/but I know it's not our focus, I don't do so because I want to promote comp or anything. What I'm basically trying to do is rephrase Sumwun's question of what use case species (or learnset) pages currently try to serve; basically, why are they there, what are they supposed to easily provide an answer to:
::::"What move can <species> ''learn'' in <game/generation>?" may be equally sensible/important, but if the pages were focused (solely/primarily) on that, there would be no need to have an "By events" subsection (to a lesser extent, probably not even "By breeding"), and I think we can all agree that this information is valuable/sensible. What I'm thinking, and what I believe Sumwun thinks, is that a "By transfer from a prior generation" subsection is equally valuable/sensible.
::::Anyway, I know how that's a hassle to create or even design, and I'm not forcing it. But I'd like to stress that Sumwun's suggestion, in my opinion, is far from focusing on some weird, minor edge case, and is providing benefit. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 16:17, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
:::::"Please list Pikachu's moves in USUM". Just go to its page. It's right ''there''. Want to know it's previous moves, go click on ''one'' link. Easy. And I'm answering sumwun's reasoning of "cross checking multiple pages is annoying", since he's the one that stated this conversation. All you're trying to do is justify sumwun's laziness.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 16:49, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
::::::Right now, I can't just click one link. Depending on how old a Pokemon is, I may need to click 1-6 links, load 1-6 learnset pages, and scan 2-25 sections. I would consider reducing this to 0 clicks and 1 section a big and worthwhile improvement. If this kind of laziness is unjustified, why do we have any learnset pages at all? We might as well be saying, "Want to know whether <Pokemon> can learn <move>? Load ''one'' move article and do ''one'' ctrl f. Easy."
::::::By the way, I would also like to know the answers to Nescientist's 2 questions. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 22:05, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
:::::::That's an exaggeration. If you know what you're looking for, it'll only taking you one-two clicks. You can't be searching for what move a Pokemon can learn previously without a set goal. You're playing Ultra Sun, but you want to know what it can learn in '''Diamond''' version. Diamond is the key word which equates to '''Gen IV'''. So you're already looking for its Gen IV learnset. Go to its page and click on Gen IV. Done.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 11:54, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
::::::::I have moved this discussion to [[Bulbapedia talk:Project Pokédex/Structure#Adding moves available only by transfer from an earlier generation|a more public place]], so others have an easier opportunity to chime in (and so that possibly, ForceFire doesn't receive as much email notifications about messages not directed to them directly).
::::::::ForceFire, the question "What moves can Pikachu know in USUM?" does not include "Diamond", and [[Pikachu (Pokémon)]] does not mention Mega Kick. I have detailed some more about what pages you'd need to traverse where I have continued the discussion I'm interested in.
::::::::Tiddlywinks, I have addressed some of your comments there, and would appreciate to get to know your opinions. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 12:18, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::Pikachu cannot '''learn''' Mega Kick in USUM (hence why it's not there at first glance), but it can know it if you transfer it from another game (which is common sense, of course it's going to know Mega Kick if you transfer it, the game isn't going to force it to forget the move).
:::::::::I just gave an example of how it only take one-two clicks to find what you're looking for. And you misinterpreted my example. If you're thinking of a certain game, you're automatically thinking of a certain generation. Go to the page and click on that specific generation.
:::::::::You can convince me to change my mind, but so far, "it's too hard, annoying, and boring to sift through a few pages" is not convincing enough to change my mind.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:28, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
::::::::::I don't understand. Please name the page(s) I need to answer "What moves can Pikachu '''''KNOW''''' in USUM?". [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 12:31, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
{{indent}}When you say "know" you're saying what it can learn via other means, and that includes transfer. The pages are the previous gen learnset pages, those are the moves Pikachu can know in USUM if you were to transfer it to USUM. Honestly...--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:35, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
:And those are six, plus Pikachus page, that's seven. (I even mentioned other difficulties at the other page.) It's not easy, it's hard. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 12:37, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
::If you have a game in mind, you have a generation in mind. You mentioned Mega Kick, Pikachu can only learn it in Gen I, III, and VI. So you're '''ONLY''' going to click '''one''' of those link, not the other links. Why would you. You already have the generation you need, you don't need to click on the others. If someone is unsure of the generation, they would look through the move article and ctrl+f "Pikachu".
::It's like if I wanted to watch a certain Johto league episode, but I don't know which number it is. I'm not going to watch the entirety of the XY series, I'm going to look through the Johto arc.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:44, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
:::You're exactly right there, but you're answering "Can Pikachu know Mega Kick in USUM?", not "What moves can Pikachu know in USUM?". I have no prior knowledge that Mega Kick is a possible solution. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 12:47, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
::::If you don't have a move in mind, then you have a previous generation in mind (to transfer from). If you have neither in mind, then you're not really looking for "what move can Pikachu know in USUM".--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:51, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
:::::I'm positive that I have neither in mind, and that I am looking for "what moves can Pikachu know in USUM". [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 13:22, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
::::::Then you're not transferring then. The only other viable option of wanting to know what moves Pikachu can ''know'' is events, since everything else it learns, and events are already listed.
::::::If you're transferring Pokémon, you already have either a generation or move in mind. You're either thinking "I want to transfer Pikachu from <game>, but am not sure what it can learn in that game", which you then click on the '''appropriate''' generation moveset. Or you're thinking "I know Pikachu can learn <move> in a previous generation, but I don't know what game", which you then go to the move page and ctrl+f PIkachu.
::::::If you're not thinking of neither of those, then you aren't looking to transfer Pokémon.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 13:46, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
:::::::I'm not thinking of a specific generation. I want to know the answer to "What moves can Pikachu know in USUM".
:::::::I can post some ''more special'' questions that require the same page traversion, such as "Can Pikachu know a sleep-inducing move?" (i.e., can I get a Pikachu on my copy of USUM with a sleep-inducing move, by whatever means?"), or "What is the most powerful move Magikarp may know in USUM?" (i.e., what's the maximum base power for any move a Magikarp may know in USUM, by whatever means).
:::::::These should be questions you may understand better. Please try to answer them. (If you do, you will find out that you won't find the answers at the species pages alone.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 15:50, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
::::::::If we are expected to be able to go to the move page and ctrl f the Pokemon's name for transfer-only moves, why are we not expected to do that for all moves? Why do we have full lists of level up moves and TM moves for each Pokemon?
::::::::By the way, another example of a question that would become a lot easier is, "What are all the ways I can get a Golem that knows a physical attack that is strong against psychic?" [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 22:20, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
{{indent}}Nescientist... what do you mean by "know"? Because a Pokémon can "know" a move via transfer or events. If you have neither a generation or move in mind, then you are '''''not''''' transferring. You are just blindly going through pages for no reason. If you're question ends so vaguely at "What moves can Pikachu know in USUM", then I don't know what you're looking for because you're not explaining the method. It's either "What can Pikachu know in USUM '''via transfer'''" or "What can Pikachu know in USUM '''via events'''". If you're talking about transfers, then I've already answered that many times.

Wanting to know what "sleep inducing moves" or "highest possible power" is competitive fluff. We are not a strategy guide. Casual gamers aren't going to care about that stuff. A casual gamer is going to want to know what moves their Pokemon can know in the game they have in their hands without outside influence (i.e. transfer or events). They're not going to care about sleep inducing move or highest based power. Not everyone is a competitive player.

Sumwun, don't be difficult. I don't even know what you're talking about. If you have a '''''move''''' in mind, go to the move page and ctrl+f. If you have a '''''game''''' in mind, go to the appropriate learnset page. You are '''''not''''' going to be looking through the learnsets to look for a single move. No one is going to do that. '''''No one''''' is going to blindly look through six learnsets looking for just one move, when they can just go to the move article itself. It's not that hard. I don't think you understand what the different kinds templates are for, and assuming they're all do the same thing.

You're Golem question, like Nescientist's "sleep inducing" question is competitive fluff. Again, we are not a strategy guide. And your question was '''even more vague'''. What is the method you seek? level up? breeding? TM? what? Be more specific in your searches. I like to think users are browsing the site fully aware of what they are looking for, not exact but an idea of what they are looking for. By the sounds of it, you're browsing the site without a single thing in mind. It stops at "What can Golem learn/know" rather than specifying "What can Golem learn/know via this specific method".--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:31, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
:I already rephrased what it means when I do not specify: it means "by whatever means", which means at all, by level-up or events or transfer or ''anything'' else. Moves a Pokémon may know in USUM. I'm explicitly ''not'' saying "by transfer only" (or anything else), I don't know why you insist I need to say that; because that is not what I'm asking.
:Anyway, you seem to have understood that my specific questions (and Sumwun's) are hard to answer, not easy. (Which is good, because that's why I mentioned them; my original question is ''more general''.)
:I would object to your take that it's only competitive fluff (and I did so [[Bulbapedia talk:Project Pokédex/Structure#Adding moves available only by transfer from an earlier generation|here]]). What do you think casual gamers would be looking for? If you're excluding what you call "competitive fluff", do you think they would need "By breeding"? (If so, why?) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 16:33, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
::If nobody goes through learnset pages for moves, what do people use them for?
::Transfer-only moves are not competitive fluff or strategy guides. They are real Pokemon information that is true even when nobody is competitive battling and is not at all fan-made, but they simply happen to be more useful to competitive battlers. If this kind of information isn't allowed on Bulbapedia, why do we have a page called "World Championships", which is pretty much the definition of competitive battling? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 03:10, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
:::Nescientist: This discussion is about transfer moves, so I assume you're talking about and looking for transfer moves. If you're looking for "anything at all", then you're not looking for anything specific so the '''bare minimum''' is already on the species article, you do not need to click on anything else. Everything it can know at '''bare minimum''' is ''right there''.
:::I didn't even answer both of your questions. I basically said that they are irrelevant because we are not a strategy guide. We're not going to say "This Pokemon can know this move which is X power" because that is competitive fluff and strategy guide-ish. No casual gamer is going to think that specifically.
:::I just said what casual gamers are looking for "'''things their Pokemon can learn normally within the game they have in their hands, without outside influence like transfers and events'''". This includes, level up moves, TMs, and such. Breeding is game mechanic and should be listed, I don't regard it as competitive fluff.
:::Sumwun: I don't think you understand how these things work. People look through the learnsets to look for moves '''''from a specific game or generation'''''. They are looking for the '''entire moveset''', not just one move. '''The entire moveset'''. If you're looking for one move, go to the move article. Looking for a moveset for a specific game, look through the learnset. It's not that hard to understand.
:::"World Championships" is an article detailing an event. It's not detailing strategies. It's not detailing what moves would be better. It's not detailing which Pokemon would be better. It's just detailing the event. Again, it's like you have no idea what that article is about.
:::It's real information, yes. But it can be seen by going through the moveset pages, because like I said, someone looking to transfer their Pokemon over so they can have a Pokemon with a move they can no longer learn, already have a game or move in mind. They are not blindly looking through pages.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:23, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
::::Just going to put my 2 cents in here (I'm not strongly for nor against):
::::1) Firstly, I think an important question that needs to be answered first is: Does a section on transfer-only moves have any role outside of the competitive field? All the examples raised at the moment have all been competitive play-oriented which I agree shouldn't be Bulbapedia's focus. I can think of one question where a transfer-only moves section ''could'' help with (e.g. "A Corsola I received from a trade has Whirlpool, Sucker Punch, and Secret Power. Is it hacked?" - although it wouldn't be too hard to find this information elsewhere + it is quite a specific question).
::::2) Another point that should be discussed is that some (albeit a small number of) moves may not be obvious to some users whether they can be transferred or not - e.g. inability to transfer most HMs, ability to transfer from VC, ability to transfer certain HMs (e.g. Defog, Whirlpool)
::::3) Lastly, I should note that a transfer-only moves section is likely to be longer than most will think (esp. as most of it is made up of moves which lost their TM status in a new gen) - though the length isn't as important --[[User:Wowy|'''Wowy''']][[User talk:Wowy|'''(토크)''']] 07:01, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
:::::i don't think your example is all that great, because force fire is going to say you would just look up the move pages of each of those individual moves and ctrl f for corsola. an example i could think of which is pretty niche, but possible i think, is "im dead set on having a corsola for my playthrough of ultra sun. i want it to have the best movelist possible; im willing to transfer from prev gens to do so. is there a quick way i can get a list of all those moves without having to go through all the pages?" so imo this new section for moves learned from prev gens isnt useless; theres definitely a benefit. i think the question is, is it worth it.
:::::if you ARE going through the lists of previous gens, you already know what you ARENT looking for: every move learnable from the current gen. although i dont think going through lists for new moves requires THAT much work, i dont think the work is negligible either. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 07:47, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
::::::Yes, I completely agree with you (maybe I should have made that more clear). I was just trying to give an example of a question which would be less competitive play-oriented (because the examples already given are not), and I as I said, the information could easily be found elsewhere --[[User:Wowy|'''Wowy''']][[User talk:Wowy|'''(토크)''']] 08:48, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
:::::::I don't know how I can be any clearer, but the question is "What are moves Pikachu can know in USUM", i.e. by whatever means; it is not, I repeat, NOT something else. The species page alone does not answer it: you need that and ''all'' previous generation learnsets, at minimum. (And that's all I'm saying, basically. I believe you, ForceFire, finally understood that.)
:::::::Wowy, I believe it would only be beneficial if you presented your opinion at [[Bulbapedia talk:Project Pokédex/Structure#Adding moves available only by transfer from an earlier generation|that other talk page]] (maybe even answered my question there). Anyway, I'm just gonna address your points here:
:::::::1. I wouldn't know how any question about moves would not have at least some relevance to competitive play; battles and moves are a central concept of the Pokémon franchise, and anyone who plays Pokémon should have some interest in competitive play. It's a different thing to talk about serious competitive battlers (like, those who maintain tier lists and whatnot), though; and I think they wouldn't really care what the answer to my two questions are (but I could be mistaken, because again, I'm not a competitive player myself). The Swinub I mentioned at that other page was purely non-competitive in that sense, too; I used it for a playthrough. As an aside, I guess the section I propose wouldn't necessarily answer your type of "legal" question; for example, a section would include both {{m|Pay Day}} and {{m|Mimic}} for Pikachu, but a Pikachu that knows both moves simultaneously would still be illegal (I think that's similar to how the current "By breeding" section cannot answer whether two Egg Moves at the same time are legal.)
:::::::2. I already said that at that other page when I explained that it is even harder to find out than I initially thought. (A "By transfer" section will ''not'' necessarily include all moves a Pokémon may have known at some earlier game (Pikachu ''can'' know {{m|Petal Dance}}, for example, but ''not'' in USUM by any means such as transfer); therefore, I also don't think Tiddlywinks' choice of the word "legacy moves" was exact for my proposal.)
:::::::3. I'm not sure it will be that long, but as you said, it shouldn't really matter.
:::::::Sumwun: I ''do'' understand what you're saying (and I agree), but you seem to derail the discussion with some of your more provocative questions (ForceFire never said Bulbapedia shouldn't cover anything that has anything to do with competitive play, for example). I hope that's not your intention, let's try to keep it simple. :)
:::::::ForceFire, moves listed under "By breeding" are not covered by the text you bolded (and by the way, in my opinion, those are about as much "competitive fluff" as "By transfer" is), "By events" even less. I think you didn't answer whether you think casual gamers would need "By breeding"!? (Or did you? I'm still - seriously - trying to get to the bottom of what you think move sections should cover and why.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 16:57, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
::::::::You didn't even read what I wrote, because I already answered that in my previous response. And I know it's an outright lie when you say you don't have a game or generation in mind, because the question is "What can Pikachu know in '''USUM'''". You've singled out '''USUM'''. That is that game you have in mind. And since you're not looking for anything specific, just the bare minimum (level up, TMS) and that's already on the article. All moves that Pikachu can know through '''normal gameplay (i.e. not anything specific, by any means)''' in '''USUM''' are already on the Pikachu page. The species page already has the most current (i.e. '''USUM''' or '''Gen VII''') moveset. Why are you even looking through the previous generation movesets if you're only looking for moves it can know in'''USUM'''? It's already on the species page, you don't need to click on anything else.
::::::::Breeding is a game mechanic. It's as important as TMs and level up moves. The move sections should cover all moves a Pokémon can learn '''through normal gameplay''' in the most '''recent game or generation'''. Transferring isn't '''learning through normal gameplay". Sure, neither are events, but I can look past that because those are generally one time things and should be noted.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 17:39, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::Nescientist didn't ask for moves that could be known "through normal gameplay". He/she/it asked for moves that could be known "by whatever means", which includes transfer as well as normal gameplay. Is this not a valid question to ask? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 18:14, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
::::::::::Sigh.. Going through it step by step:
::::::::::# I did read your (whole) message.
::::::::::# I did not lie.
::::::::::# I am not looking for a bare minimum. (My question was on "moves Pikachu can know in USUM [by whatever means]".)
::::::::::# What Sumwun said (and everyone, including Sumwun, should be able to see how it is a ''valid'' question to ask).
::::::::::# I am looking through previous movesets because not all moves Pikachu can know in USUM are at [[Pikachu (Pokémon)]]; Mega Kick, for example, isn't. (We've been there before, I mentioned that way up above, even rephrased it repeatedly.)
::::::::::# Yes, I do need to click on something else to check, i.e. all previous movesets (at minimum).
::::::::::# Transfer is a game mechanic.
::::::::::# In my opinion, breeding is not quite as important as TMs and level-up moves, if only because I cannot—by no means—teach (an individual) Pokémon I already own its species' Egg Moves. (It's still important, though.)
::::::::::# Finally, a "definition" of what you think move sections should cover: moves Pokémon may ''learn'' through normal gameplay within the generation, plus event moves. I'll just mention that they do already cover more than that, for example how {{p|Cubchoo}} may learn Avalanche in USUM.
::::::::::Beyond that, of course, I can't be of any help to you when you claim that I didn't read your message and outright lied. And, up to this point, I was trying hard. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 20:02, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::::I think the problem with the "outright lie" is that transferring a Pokemon requires 2 games. Nescientist knew that the END game would be US or UM. When Nescientist said he didn't have a game "in mind", he/she/it was referring to the START game, and his/her/its willingness to transfer a Pokemon FROM any game TO US or UM. Nescientist, is this right? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 20:52, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
::::::::::::Yes, in your words/example, the end game would be USUM, but the start game could be anything (including USUM itself, i.e. no transfer at all). [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 16:42, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::::::Should we bring this discussion to another administrator's talk page? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 17:22, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

== Need your help ==

Hi there! Can you please help me with [[User talk:Mikuri#Who's stalking whose edits?|this discussion]]? I am tired of explaining to them that their obsession with having the current revision of a page is more of a hindrance than a help. Aside from the examples I offered in my talk page, you can check GrammarFreak01's latest edits to [[Marian]]'s page. That sentence they edited was perfectly fine as it was, but they changed it for no reason other than being the last person to have edited the page.

In doing so, they added misleading information because they clearly have no knowledge on the matter, first by saying that Jessie was disguised as Jessedia "at the time", creating a false impression that she disguised as Jessedia on one occasion when in fact this is a recurring disguise Jessie has changed into at least three times, and then by saying she was "briefly disguised". Assuming you don't know, Jessie has appeared as Jessedia for the duration of the entire Kanto Grand Festival and the Wallace Cup's Battle Stage, as well as in DP093 when she was interviewing Fantina.

This is not what one would call "briefly". This is not a one-time disguise that is blown off by Ash and his friends at the end of the episode. It's a recurring thing, and GrammarFreak01 is apparently unaware of that and changing a sentence that was completely okay with their nonsense just to accomplish their "goal". It's getting tired and I'm asking for help because these are instances in which I got involved, but who knows the amount of wrong information they have added to the tons of pages they edit daily.

It's frankly discouraging to edit a page only to have its content vandalized (inserting gibberish into pages counts as vandalism, right?) by someone who has no idea what they're doing and are just trying to get the most recent revision of a page. Also, judging by their latest edit to my talk page, they expect me to be some sort of wizard who can see into the future and tell them that their edit is wrong ''before'' they even make it. I don't know how to respond to that and I'm not the only user who has complained about GrammarFreak01's bad editing habits. Something needs to be done about this situation and that's why I'm asking you to intervene. Please help. --[[User:Mikuri|'''Mi''']][[User talk: Mikuri|'''ku''']][[Special:Contributions/Mikuri|'''ri''']] 15:12, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

:I am well aware of how long Jessie has been disguised as Jessedia and what she used that disguise for. [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Marian&type=revision&diff=2860143&oldid=2860142 The original sentence] in question just did not make sense to me from a grammatical standpoint. Also, for someone who constantly complains about me having a need to "have the current revision of a page", Mikuri has a nasty habit of editing articles hours and even minutes right after me, leading me to assume she is maliciously following me using my edit history. Examples of this are:

:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Melody_(M02)&action=history Melody (M02)]
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Maren&action=history Maren]
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Carol&action=history Carol]
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Tobias_(M02)&action=history Tobias (M02)]
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Molly_Hale&action=history Molly Hale]
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Liza_(Johto)&action=history Liza (Johto)]
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Oakley&action=history Oakley]
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Annie_(M05)&action=history Annie (M05)]
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Ross&action=history Ross]
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Butler&action=history Butler]
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Rafe&action=history Rafe]
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Jack_Walker&action=history Jack Walker]
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Lugia_(M02)&action=history Lugia (M02)]
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Entei_(M03)&action=history Entei (M03)]
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Celebi_(M04)&action=history Celebi (M04)]
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Suicune_(M04)&action=history Suicune (M04)]
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Lucario_(M08)&action=history Lucario (M08)]

:If you've noticed in the edit histories I provided, much of the articles hadn't been edited in months prior to my original edits. Then, when I make an edit, Mikuri follows after, which I find to be a complete contradiction to their complaints about my editing practices. This was also a problem back in June, when I first [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AMikuri&type=revision&diff=2809252&oldid=2808516 confronted Mikuri about it]. The articles in question were:

:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Lillie_(anime)&offset=20180628163311&action=history Lillie (anime)]
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Brock%27s_Vulpix&action=history Brock's Vulpix]
:*[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Matori&offset=20180818063550&action=history Matori]

:At one point in our argument, I said [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AMikuri&type=revision&diff=2859786&oldid=2859767 this]. I admit that it was poorly worded due to my blinding irritation of the situation (and that I probably should've changed it once I calmed down). But what I was hoping to convey was that if Mikuri had a problem with me trying to hog the latest revision of a page, they should've tried to take it to the talk page sooner, just like what was usually done with me whenever there was a problem.

:Clearly, this is a problem that has been going on for months now and I would appreciate your mediation. I don't particularly care about any outcome anymore, so fire away. I only ask that this contradiction on Mikuri's part be addressed in some way. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 22:34, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

::I started "maliciously following" GrammarFreak01's edit history '''after''' I noticed they were stalking my edits. Usually after I finished doing a major edit to a page, they would appear to unnecessarily tweak image sizes (something Tiddlywinks has warned them about) or make another one of their pointless edits. I accused them of doing that in some of my edit summaries and they decided to [[User talk:Mikuri#You're being paranoid|come to my talk page]] and call me paranoid. I could provide a laundry list of that, but I don't feel like it's needed. For one, GrammarFreak01's talk page is chock-full of messages telling them to stop with the pointless edits (and some of them were left there by you, Force Fire). In addition, I am not the only user who has complained about their edit stalking habits, as there is a [[User talk:GrammarFreak01#Edit Stalking|message left by PardescanSlowbro]] detailing the exact same behavior.
::In their defense, all GrammarFreak01 had to say is that they receive email notifications after someone edits a page they have edited in the past. So what? This is no excuse to go around and make needless edits only to have the current revision of a page. And that is the main point of this discussion: GrammarFreak01's history of wholly unnecessary edits that add nothing to our pages. Correction: sometimes their edits make the page worse, as they add wrong information about a subject they know nothing about only to have the most recent revision, as was the case with [[Yuzo]]'s page. Their concern isn't quality content and accurate information, but rather an enormous amount of unverified nonsense. I honestly don't care if my revision isn't the current one and I don't have this kind of problem with any other user in this entire wiki, '''unlike GrammarFreak01'''. Several users have contributed to pages I had worked on, and you don't see me complaining about them. But GrammarFreak01 is not here to contribute, they're here to make unnecessary edits.
::So yes, I can admit that I have edited several pages upon seeing one of GrammarFreak01's edits, but I guess this comes as no surprise considering the recent changes are there for everyone to see, and again, this was '''after''' I noticed they were stalking my edits and making unnecessary changes to them. And there's one notable difference: it was never to add information that was untrue about a subject I know nothing about. My point isn't that they are editing after me, but that those edits are needless. Editing a page after another user isn't a blockable offense, but inserting gibberish into pages is, as is edit flood and edit wars, behaviors also exhibited by GrammarFreak01. And I think it is worth comparing our contributions: I usually do a complete overhaul by adding verified information I gathered and uploading high quality images to the Archives, while GrammarFreak01 has a long and documented history of making pointless edits that add no real content to Bulbapedia and edit warring. --[[User:Mikuri|'''Mi''']][[User talk: Mikuri|'''ku''']][[Special:Contributions/Mikuri|'''ri''']] 00:34, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
:::If you read the entire discussion, you will see that [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AGrammarFreak01&type=revision&diff=2825193&oldid=2825153 I explained myself and asked PardescanSlowbro for examples] where my edits were unnecessary and clearly malicious. I was happy to address those concerns. But they did not get back to me on that. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 01:25, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

== False positive abuse filter triggers ==

Hello, recently I tried to move a message I misplaced on a user's talk page (see log [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Special:AbuseLog?wpSearchUser=Ozank&wpSearchTitle=&wpSearchWiki= here]) to the bottom where it should have been, but the abuse filter didn't let me. If you want to look into this, feel free. [[User:Ozank|Ozank]] ([[User talk:Ozank|talk]]) 16:43, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

:He already [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:GrammarFreak01#Re:_Heads_up responded to that]. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 17:39, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
::Yeah, I've already answered this on GrammarFreak's talk page. I think the system may have deemed moving sections (to the proper place) a drastic edit for a new user. Other than that, you should be fine once you've become a member for a period of time.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:20, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

== Mimikyu's name ==

Hi there,
Since you're the one who placed the warning in Mimikyu's "Name Origin", would you mind giving it a look [[Talk:Mimikyu (Pokémon)#Mimic_.2B_Q_2|here]]? Seeing that talking about it in the talk page was the recommendation, I'd like to discuss about it a little. Thanks. [[User:ExLight|ExLight]] ([[User talk:ExLight|talk]]) 01:46, 20 October 2018 (UTC)

== Mewtwo's voice actor ==

I just watched [https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lrTmDZavVVc a video] where it was revealed that the English voice actor of the {{OBP|Mewtwo|original series|original series Mewtwo}} was actually ''not'' Philip Bartlett. That was a stage name, and the Philip Bartlett who died years ago was a completely different person, with the ''real'' English voice actor behind Mewtwo ''and'' the Philip Bartlett stage name being a man named Jay Goede. I feel like this is worth checking into. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:22, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
:[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Dr._Fuji_(anime)&diff=2200677&oldid=2192996 Judging by this] and [[Talk:M01#Dr. Fuji's voice|this]], it's been acknowledged back in 2014.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 09:38, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
::Ah. Okay. Sorry. Shouldn't there then be something like a tooltip on Mewtwo's page to indicate that "Philip Bartlett" is just a stage name? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 09:58, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
:::Don't think it's too much of an issue to do so.

== Troublesome user ==

Heads up. Clearly [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Special:Contributions/Cheekybutthole this user] is [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Probopass_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&diff=prev&oldid=2868297 not here to contribute]. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 03:26, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

:Never mind, {{U|Abcboy}} took care of it. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 03:41, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

== links ==

is it all right to repeat links from an above section in a lower one. and u know that internal error that was mentioned above? im still getting it. also i couldnt help noticing ur ignoring a poor man's cry for help up above. not a very nice thing to do, wouldnt u say? :) --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 14:16, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
:If something has already been linked in a section, it does not need to be linked again. It's fine to have one link per section, '''only if said link isn't directly below the previous section'''. Once every few sections is fine, but not literally the next section below it.
:The internal error issue is being looked into. There has been no updates yet on its progress.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:41, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
::so lets say a link keyword is in every section. you'd want it to be linked in every other section? 1st, 3rd, 5th, etc. --[[User:EternalDragonX|EternalDragonX]] ([[User talk:EternalDragonX|talk]]) 06:10, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
:::Use common sense. Also, you don't have to link every time the word "Pokémon species", "Pokémon trainer", or whatever appears.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:21, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

==Voice Actors==
Sent you an email with a list of voice actors from Lisa Ortiz, do I have your approval?--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 16:12, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
:Those are fine to be added.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:45, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

== Statistic ==

Why did you undo my edit to statistic? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 17:56, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
:You're change wasn't necessary. It was basically saying the same thing.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 03:44, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
::I changed "take effect" to "start affecting turn order", which does not mean the same thing. Speed has other effects, such as determining the base power of gyro ball and electro ball, and those other effects immediately respond to changes to speed. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 04:52, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
:::The full sentence is " will not take effect until the following turn". What you changed it to is still saying that it wont take effect until the next turn.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:00, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
::::What it currently says is false because it implies that changes to speed do not start affecting the power of gyro ball and electro ball until the next turn. What I changed it to is true because it does not imply that. How can they say the same thing if one is false and the other is true? Would it be better if it said, "An in-battle change to a Pokémon's Speed stat will not start affecting turn order until the following turn, but otherwise takes effect immediately"? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 18:49, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
:::::If I might butt in here, if what Sumwun is saying is true (I've not seen any information whether it is or not), then there 'is' a difference between the two, and I think Sumwun's edit should be reinstated. Speed has effect on more things than just turn order, and some might react to changes sooner than others. --[[User:Felthry|Felthry]] ([[User talk:Felthry|talk]]) 18:00, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
:::::Why would you assume the sentence is talking about Gyro Ball or Electro Ball? It clearly isn't. It's talking about when a Pokémon's speed gets changed due to a stat change, it won't take affect until the following turn. Gyro Ball and Electro Ball are not moves that affect the user's speed, but rely on it, it's not going to get affected by a stat changing move.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:48, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
:::::::Before commenting on the first 2 sentences of that comment, I just wanted to tell you that the last 2 sentences [https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7anythinggoes-834770797 are false]. I will admit that Showdown! is the most reliable battle simulator available to me, and I'm sorry if that's not reliable enough. [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 06:51, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
::::::::"Simulator", hence why it isn't reliable. You can change things with a simulator.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 07:17, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::The replay was done in "Anything Goes", a standard format that does not change any battle mechanics. Do you still not trust it? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 16:38, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
::::::::::No.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 16:40, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::::If not a Showdown! replay, what can convince you that changes in speed can take effect immediately? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 18:03, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
::::::Gyro Ball and Electro Ball both depend on the user's speed, right? So why would you expect that changes to the user's speed wouldn't affect those moves? Regardless of whether it "clearly isn't" talking about them as you personally see it, it's better to be precise than to rely on implicit statements. --[[User:Felthry|Felthry]] ([[User talk:Felthry|talk]]) 23:38, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

== New Devolution ==
Hello Force Fire, I am a foreigner and reader on the Bulbapedia site. I only created an account in order to discuss a possible Pokémon capable of performing a Devolution, I mean Silvally (Type: Full).

Since originally this was his original form, however, he involuted to Type: Null after Faba added a helmet to his face, slowing him down. He will only be Silvally again when he destroys the helmet, that is, if it is valid I would like some moderator on the site to add this Pokémon to the article [[Devolution]]. [[User:NanayaShiki07|NanayaShiki07]] ([[User talk:NanayaShiki07|talk]]) 20:07, 10 November 2018 (~)
:Games=/=anime. I personally don't think it counts as anything. I also don't really care, mainly because the whole story behind Silvally and Type: Null, and how the latter is just the former with a helmet. It just unnecessarily makes things confusing and messes the whole concept of evolution in the franchise. So I don't have any strong opinions about this.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:48, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

== N as a rival ==

Don't put a message that says "Please do not add N, as he is not a rival" on the page, If you have an argument against it then put it in the talk page! [[User:Nightfall217|Nightfall217]] ([[User talk:Nightfall217|talk]]) 23:48, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
:As an administrator I ''can'' place a hidden message telling users what not to do until a consensus has been made.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:48, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

== Leaf Discussion Page ==
I noticed you left a note on my userpage telling me not to delete other people's comments. I want to assure you that I have not done so, and in fact had my comments removed twice by other people when they re-formatted the page. --[[User:LavaringX|LavaringX]] ([[User talk:LavaringX|talk]]) 07:16, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

== Spaceworld Mainspace ==

Hello, I was wondering if we could start slowly mainspacing some Pokémon Gold and Silver beta information, as the leaked Spaceworld ROM has been around for nearly a half a year now. A lot of the interest for adding this information onto the site has slowed down, and I thought that perhaps if only a little bit of information was added, like, for example, [[User:Celadonkey/Spaceworld/Dex|a list of Pokémon]], [[User:Celadonkey/Spaceworld#Chikorita_.28Pok.C3.A9mon.29.2FBeta|one or two Pokémon articles]], or [[User:Frozen Fennec/Pokémon Gold and Silver Spaceworld Demo|some information on the gameplay]], then maybe it would spur interest and additions to the wiki. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 16:39, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
:Spaceworld stuff shouldn't be the priority right now, clearly. The staff still hasn't decided on how to handle this. Please don't think you can just move them without permission.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 16:57, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
::I wasn't going to move it without permission, that's why I asked you. And alright. Please let me know when staff has reached a decision because this is something I am very interested in helping out with --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 17:02, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

== I want to turn a redirect into an article for something else, but I don't have the writing skills. ==

I asked Chosen 5 days ago, but he never responded. I asked Glik earlier today, but unfortunately he doesn't play the game and couldn't help.

Anyway, there's a substance called R in the game Detective Pikachu, and it's a big part of the game's story. When I went to search its article, it redirects me to the Trainer Tower instead. I am definitely not able to write the article myself (I sucked at Language Arts), but I also don't want to leave the page as this redirect. What can I do? [[User:Unowninator|¿¡Unowninator?!]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 01:24, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
:Write a stub or incomplete article? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 02:33, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
::You already created a userpage it seems. You can invite others to help flesh out the article. Sadly, I've never played Detective Pikachu, so I wouldn't know much.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:58, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

== [[Sea Cottage]] and [[Trophy Garden]] ==

Hi there. You recently removed information relating to the Bill's Secret Garden rumour without engaging in discussion first, as I had explicitly requested on the talk pages for those articles. I have provided four different articles regarding Bill's Secret Garden and it's mentioned on numerous fansites, so I'm not sure what further evidence you require. It's an extremely notorious rumour. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 13:43, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
:I was in the midst of responding on those talk pages whilst you wrote this.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 13:54, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
:: Commenting 20 minutes ''after'' the removals isn't exactly a discussion. --[[User:Poppy Appletree|Poppy]] [[User talk:Poppy Appletree|:3]] 13:57, 20 November 2018 (UTC)