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Walkthrough:Pokémon Sword and Shield/Part 24

2026-02-09T09:03:36Z

PokeMaster99999: Shielbert was mistakenly labelled as also being in Sword - switched that to the correct Shield. Really small edit.

==Energy Plant==
Speak to [[Sonia]] at the elevator doors in [[Hammerlocke Stadium]], and her {{p|Yamper}} will handily give them the jolt of electricity needed to open. Head down to the [[Energy Plant]] and you’ll be confronted by either [[Sordward]] or [[Shielbert]]. They’ll then reveal their plan to you - they were testing the ability to [[Dynamax]] Pokémon against their will in all the Stadiums, and plan to do the same to {{p|Zacian}} and {{p|Zamazenta}} to prove that they were unworthy and incapable of saving [[Galar]], thus proving that the brothers were in fact descended from royalty. You can try to put a stop to this, of course, by defeating them in battle.

{{Party
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| walkthrough = yes
| background = {{sword color}}
| border = {{sword color dark}}
| headcolor = {{sword color light}}
| sprite = VSSordward.png
| size = 150px
| prize = {{PDollar}}12,800
| class = Pokémon Trainer
| name = {{color2|000|Sordward}}
| location = Energy Plant
| game = Sw
| pokemon = 4
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{{Pokémon
| walkthrough = yes
| gen = 8
| ndex = 0865
| pokemon = Sirfetch'd
| gender = male
| level = 64
| type1 = Fighting
| ability = Steadfast
| move1 = Leaf Blade | move1type = Grass | move1cat = Physical
| move2 = Slam | move2type = Normal | move2cat = Physical
| move3 = Meteor Assault | move3type = Fighting | move3cat = Physical
| move4 = Swords Dance | move4type = Normal | move4cat = Status
}}
{{Pokémon
| walkthrough = yes
| gen = 8
| ndex = 0768
| pokemon = Golisopod
| gender = male
| level = 64
| type1 = Bug
| type2 = Water
| ability = Emergency Exit
| move1 = First Impression | move1type = Bug | move1cat = Physical
| move2 = Liquidation | move2type = Water | move2cat = Physical
| move3 = X-Scissor | move3type = Bug | move3cat = Physical
| move4 = Sucker Punch | move4type = Dark | move4cat = Physical
}}
{{Pokémon
| walkthrough = yes
| gen = 8
| ndex = 0680
| pokemon = Doublade
| gender = male
| level = 64
| type1 = Steel
| type2 = Ghost
| ability = No Guard
| move1 = Sacred Sword | move1type = Fighting | move1cat = Physical
| move2 = Iron Head | move2type = Steel | move2cat = Physical
| move3 = Night Slash | move3type = Dark | move3cat = Physical
| move4 = Swords Dance | move4type = Normal | move4cat = Status
}}
{{Pokémon
| walkthrough = yes
| gen = 8
| ndex = 0625
| pokemon = Bisharp
| gender = male
| level = 64
| type1 = Dark
| type2 = Steel
| ability = Defiant
| move1 = Iron Head | move1type = Steel | move1cat = Physical
| move2 = Night Slash | move2type = Dark | move2cat = Physical
| move3 = Swords Dance | move3type = Normal | move3cat = Status
| move4 = Stone Edge | move4type = Rock | move4cat = Physical
}}
{{Party/end}}

{{Party
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| walkthrough = yes
| background = {{shield color}}
| border = {{shield color dark}}
| headcolor = {{shield color light}}
| sprite = VSShielbert.png
| size = 150px
| prize = {{PDollar}}12,800
| class = Pokémon Trainer
| name = {{color2|000|Shielbert}}
| location = Energy Plant
| game = Sh
| pokemon = 4
}}
{{Pokémon
| walkthrough = yes
| gen = 8
| ndex = 0865
| pokemon = Sirfetch'd
| gender = male
| level = 64
| type1 = Fighting
| ability = Steadfast
| move1 = Leaf Blade | move1type = Grass | move1cat = Physical
| move2 = Slam | move2type = Normal | move2cat = Physical
| move3 = Meteor Assault | move3type = Fighting | move3cat = Physical
| move4 = Iron Defense | move4type = Steel | move4cat = Status
}}
{{Pokémon
| walkthrough = yes
| gen = 8
| ndex = 0437
| pokemon = Bronzong
| gender = none
| level = 64
| type1 = Steel
| type2 = Psychic
| ability = Levitate
| move1 = Light Screen | move1type = Psychic | move1cat = Status
| move2 = Extrasensory | move2type = Psychic | move2cat = Special
| move3 = Gyro Ball | move3type = Steel | move3cat = Physical
| move4 = Hypnosis | move4type = Psychic | move4cat = Status
}}
{{Pokémon
| walkthrough = yes
| gen = 8
| ndex = 0870
| pokemon = Falinks
| gender = none
| level = 64
| type1 = Fighting
| ability = Battle Armor
| move1 = No Retreat | move1type = Fighting | move1cat = Status
| move2 = First Impression | move2type = Bug | move2cat = Physical
| move3 = Close Combat | move3type = Fighting | move3cat = Physical
| move4 = Megahorn | move4type = Bug | move4cat = Physical
}}
{{Pokémon
| walkthrough = yes
| gen = 8
| ndex = 0601
| pokemon = Klinklang
| gender = none
| level = 64
| type1 = Steel
| ability = Plus
| move1 = Gear Grind | move1type = Steel | move1cat = Physical
| move2 = Shift Gear | move2type = Steel | move2cat = Status
| move3 = Protect | move3type = Normal | move3cat = Status
| move4 = Wild Charge | move4type = Electric | move4cat = Physical
}}
{{Party/end}}

Neither brother carries a full team of six Pokémon, and Sordward hasn’t even evolved his {{p|Doublade}} yet, but with each Pokémon at level 64 this can be a tricky battle if you’re not prepared. Both lead with {{p|Sirfetch’d}}, which can give you valuable setup time as {{m|Meteor Assault}} has a recharge turn afterwards. Sordward has better type diversity than Shielbert - a strong {{type|Fire}} deals well with the {{type|Steel}} Pokémon on both teams, however, and only really has to worry about {{m|Liquidation}} from {{p|Golisopod}}, but if you can play around it then you should be good to go.

After your victory a familiar howling echoes from the summit, and it seems the precious battle might have given the brothers enough time to enact their nefarious scheme. Heal your party as required before going up.

On the roof you’ll find the other brother standing before Zacian ([[Shield]]) or Zamazenta ([[Sword]]), having used the appropriate artifact to lure them there before bombarding them with Galar particles. In this wild, out of control state, only one person is strong enough to stop it, and that’s you! You can’t capture them in this battle, so just knock them out instead - remember that in the Hero of Many Battles form they’re not part Steel-type, and also not as powerful, and it should be smooth sailing.

After your win Zacian/Zamazenta charges towards [[Hop]], only for the other Legendary Pokémon to appear in the nick of time to stop them! The previously enraged Pokémon then flees, and Hop takes the [[Rusted Sword]] or [[Rusted Shield]] back to its rightful place in hopes of calming it down. You then have a stare down with our newly-arrived Pokémon, before it settles itself in the middle of the arena, waiting for you to take it on!

Make sure to save your game if you want to catch it in a specific ball, because this catch, unlike {{p|Eternatus}}, is not guaranteed, and this is your only chance. It’ll be at level 70, and in its more powerful [[Crowned Sword]] (Zacian) or [[Crowned Shield]] (Zamazenta) [[form]], so it can very easily sweep your team if you’re unprepared. You do, of course, have the [[Master Ball]] at this point, and now would be an opportune time to use it.

With Zacian/Zamazenta now captured, Sordward and Shielbert recognise your strength and the error of their ways, and ask [[Piers]] to hand them over to the authorities (but not before Piers hands over his rare [[League Card]]). As they leave your [[Rotom Phone]] rings - it’s Hop calling, and he wants you to go to the [[Slumbering Weald]] to help with the other Legendary Pokémon. If that wasn’t persuasive enough, your own Legend howls in agreement, so head back to the heart of the forest.

==Slumbering Weald==
Once you arrive at the Slumbering Weald you can find [[Sonia]] at the entrance, and she will take you straight to the altar in the center of the woods. There you’ll find Hop trying to calm down Zacian/Zamazenta. Somehow, not only has Hop succeeded, but he’s convinced the Pokémon enough to let him catch it (in a [[Poké Ball]], no less)! Of course, now that he’s got a legend of his own, there’s only one thing left to do… That’s right, it’s a final battle!

===Pokémon Sword===
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| move3 = Double-Edge | move3type = Normal | move3cat = Physical
| move4 = Headbutt | move4type = Normal | move4cat = Physical
}}
{{Pokémon
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| gen = 8
| ndex = 0143
| pokemon = Snorlax
| gender = male
| level = 68
| type1 = Normal
| ability = Thick Fat
| move1 = Hammer Arm | move1type = Fighting | move1cat = Physical
| move2 = Earthquake | move2type = Ground | move2cat = Physical
| move3 = Heavy Slam | move3type = Steel | move3cat = Physical
| move4 = Crunch | move4type = Dark | move4cat = Physical
}}
{{Pokémon
| walkthrough = yes
| gen = 8
| ndex = 0871
| pokemon = Pincurchin
| gender = female
| level = 68
| type1 = Electric
| ability = Lightning Rod
| move1 = Zing Zap | move1type = Electric | move1cat = Physical
| move2 = Poison Jab | move2type = Poison | move2cat = Physical
| move3 = Liquidation | move3type = Water | move3cat = Physical
| move4 = Recover | move4type = Normal | move4cat = Status
}}
{{Pokémon
| walkthrough = yes
| gen = 8
| ndex = 0823
| pokemon = Corviknight
| gender = male
| level = 69
| type1 = Flying
| type2 = Steel
| ability = Unnerve
| move1 = Steel Wing | move1type = Steel | move1cat = Physical
| move2 = Drill Peck | move2type = Flying | move2cat = Physical
| move3 = Swagger | move3type = Normal | move3cat = Status
| move4 = Light Screen | move4type = Psychic | move4cat = Status
}}
{{Pokémon
| walkthrough = yes
| gen = 8
| ndex = 0818
| pokemon = Inteleon
| gender = male
| level = 70
| type1 = Water
| ability = Torrent
| move1 = Snipe Shot | move1type = Water | move1cat = Special
| move2 = Sucker Punch | move2type = Dark | move2cat = Physical
| move3 = Ice Beam | move3type = Ice | move3cat = Special
| move4 = Dark Pulse | move4type = Dark | move4cat = Special
}}
{{Pokémon
| walkthrough = yes
| gen = 8
| ndex = 0889
| pokemon = Zamazenta
| gender = none
| level = 70
| type1 = Fighting
| type2 = Steel
| ability = Dauntless Shield
| held = Rusted Shield
| move1 = Crunch | move1type = Dark | move1cat = Physical
| move2 = Behemoth Bash | move2type = Steel | move2cat = Physical
| move3 = Psychic Fangs | move3type = Psychic | move3cat = Physical
| move4 = Play Rough | move4type = Fairy | move4cat = Physical
}}
{{Party/end}}
{{Party
| caption = {{PlayerChoice|0813|Scorbunny}}
| walkthrough = yes
| background = {{sword color}}
| border = {{sword color dark}}
| headcolor = {{sword color light}}
| sprite = VSHop 2.png
| size = 150px
| prize = {{PDollar}}11,200
| class = Pokémon Trainer
| name = {{color2|000|Hop}}
| location = Slumbering Weald
| game = Sw
| pokemon = 6
}}
{{Pokémon
| walkthrough = yes
| gen = 8
| ndex = 0832
| pokemon = Dubwool
| gender = male
| level = 69
| type1 = Normal
| ability = Steadfast
| move1 = Cotton Guard | move1type = Grass | move1cat = Status
| move2 = Double Kick | move2type = Fighting | move2cat = Physical
| move3 = Double-Edge | move3type = Normal | move3cat = Physical
| move4 = Headbutt | move4type = Normal | move4cat = Physical
}}
{{Pokémon
| walkthrough = yes
| gen = 8
| ndex = 0143
| pokemon = Snorlax
| gender = male
| level = 68
| type1 = Normal
| ability = Thick Fat
| move1 = Hammer Arm | move1type = Fighting | move1cat = Physical
| move2 = Earthquake | move2type = Ground | move2cat = Physical
| move3 = Heavy Slam | move3type = Steel | move3cat = Physical
| move4 = Crunch | move4type = Dark | move4cat = Physical
}}
{{Pokémon
| walkthrough = yes
| gen = 8
| ndex = 0871
| pokemon = Pincurchin
| gender = female
| level = 68
| type1 = Electric
| ability = Lightning Rod
| move1 = Zing Zap | move1type = Electric | move1cat = Physical
| move2 = Poison Jab | move2type = Poison | move2cat = Physical
| move3 = Liquidation | move3type = Water | move3cat = Physical
| move4 = Recover | move4type = Normal | move4cat = Status
}}
{{Pokémon
| walkthrough = yes
| gen = 8
| ndex = 0823
| pokemon = Corviknight
| gender = male
| level = 69
| type1 = Flying
| type2 = Steel
| ability = Unnerve
| move1 = Steel Wing | move1type = Steel | move1cat = Physical
| move2 = Drill Peck | move2type = Flying | move2cat = Physical
| move3 = Swagger | move3type = Normal | move3cat = Status
| move4 = Light Screen | move4type = Psychic | move4cat = Status
}}
{{Pokémon
| walkthrough = yes
| gen = 8
| ndex = 0812
| pokemon = Rillaboom
| gender = male
| level = 70
| type1 = Grass
| ability = Overgrow
| move1 = Drum Beating | move1type = Grass | move1cat = Physical
| move2 = Slam | move2type = Normal | move2cat = Physical
| move3 = Knock Off | move3type = Dark | move3cat = Physical
| move4 = High Horsepower | move4type = Ground | move4cat = Physical
}}
{{Pokémon
| walkthrough = yes
| gen = 8
| ndex = 0889
| pokemon = Zamazenta
| gender = none
| level = 70
| type1 = Fighting
| type2 = Steel
| ability = Dauntless Shield
| held = Rusted Shield
| move1 = Crunch | move1type = Dark | move1cat = Physical
| move2 = Behemoth Bash | move2type = Steel | move2cat = Physical
| move3 = Psychic Fangs | move3type = Psychic | move3cat = Physical
| move4 = Play Rough | move4type = Fairy | move4cat = Physical
}}
{{Party/end}}
{{Party
| caption = {{PlayerChoice|0816|Sobble}}
| walkthrough = yes
| background = {{sword color}}
| border = {{sword color dark}}
| headcolor = {{sword color light}}
| sprite = VSHop 2.png
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| class = Pokémon Trainer
| name = {{color2|000|Hop}}
| location = Slumbering Weald
| game = Sw
| pokemon = 6
}}
{{Pokémon
| walkthrough = yes
| gen = 8
| ndex = 0832
| pokemon = Dubwool
| gender = male
| level = 69
| type1 = Normal
| ability = Steadfast
| move1 = Cotton Guard | move1type = Grass | move1cat = Status
| move2 = Double Kick | move2type = Fighting | move2cat = Physical
| move3 = Double-Edge | move3type = Normal | move3cat = Physical
| move4 = Headbutt | move4type = Normal | move4cat = Physical
}}
{{Pokémon
| walkthrough = yes
| gen = 8
| ndex = 0143
| pokemon = Snorlax
| gender = male
| level = 68
| type1 = Normal
| ability = Thick Fat
| move1 = Hammer Arm | move1type = Fighting | move1cat = Physical
| move2 = Earthquake | move2type = Ground | move2cat = Physical
| move3 = Heavy Slam | move3type = Steel | move3cat = Physical
| move4 = Crunch | move4type = Dark | move4cat = Physical
}}
{{Pokémon
| walkthrough = yes
| gen = 8
| ndex = 0871
| pokemon = Pincurchin
| gender = female
| level = 68
| type1 = Electric
| ability = Lightning Rod
| move1 = Zing Zap | move1type = Electric | move1cat = Physical
| move2 = Poison Jab | move2type = Poison | move2cat = Physical
| move3 = Liquidation | move3type = Water | move3cat = Physical
| move4 = Recover | move4type = Normal | move4cat = Status
}}
{{Pokémon
| walkthrough = yes
| gen = 8
| ndex = 0823
| pokemon = Corviknight
| gender = male
| level = 69
| type1 = Flying
| type2 = Steel
| ability = Unnerve
| move1 = Steel Wing | move1type = Steel | move1cat = Physical
| move2 = Drill Peck | move2type = Flying | move2cat = Physical
| move3 = Swagger | move3type = Normal | move3cat = Status
| move4 = Light Screen | move4type = Psychic | move4cat = Status
}}
{{Pokémon
| walkthrough = yes
| gen = 8
| ndex = 0815
| pokemon = Cinderace
| gender = male
| level = 70
| type1 = Fire
| ability = Blaze
| move1 = Gunk Shot | move1type = Poison | move1cat = Physical
| move2 = Iron Head | move2type = Steel | move2cat = Physical
| move3 = Pyro Ball | move3type = Fire | move3cat = Physical
| move4 = Zen Headbutt | move4type = Psychic | move4cat = Physical
}}
{{Pokémon
| walkthrough = yes
| gen = 8
| ndex = 0889
| pokemon = Zamazenta
| gender = none
| level = 70
| type1 = Fighting
| type2 = Steel
| ability = Dauntless Shield
| held = Rusted Shield
| move1 = Crunch | move1type = Dark | move1cat = Physical
| move2 = Behemoth Bash | move2type = Steel | move2cat = Physical
| move3 = Psychic Fangs | move3type = Psychic | move3cat = Physical
| move4 = Play Rough | move4type = Fairy | move4cat = Physical
}}
{{Party/end}}

===Pokémon Shield===
{{Party
| caption = {{PlayerChoice|0810|Grookey}}
| walkthrough = yes
| background = {{sword color}}
| border = {{sword color dark}}
| headcolor = {{sword color light}}
| sprite = VSHop 2.png
| size = 150px
| prize = {{PDollar}}11,200
| class = Pokémon Trainer
| name = {{color2|000|Hop}}
| location = Slumbering Weald
| game = Sh
| pokemon = 6
}}
{{Pokémon
| walkthrough = yes
| gen = 8
| ndex = 0832
| pokemon = Dubwool
| gender = male
| level = 69
| type1 = Normal
| ability = Steadfast
| move1 = Cotton Guard | move1type = Grass | move1cat = Status
| move2 = Double Kick | move2type = Fighting | move2cat = Physical
| move3 = Double-Edge | move3type = Normal | move3cat = Physical
| move4 = Headbutt | move4type = Normal | move4cat = Physical
}}
{{Pokémon
| walkthrough = yes
| gen = 8
| ndex = 0143
| pokemon = Snorlax
| gender = male
| level = 68
| type1 = Normal
| ability = Thick Fat
| move1 = Hammer Arm | move1type = Fighting | move1cat = Physical
| move2 = Earthquake | move2type = Ground | move2cat = Physical
| move3 = Heavy Slam | move3type = Steel | move3cat = Physical
| move4 = Crunch | move4type = Dark | move4cat = Physical
}}
{{Pokémon
| walkthrough = yes
| gen = 8
| ndex = 0871
| pokemon = Pincurchin
| gender = female
| level = 68
| type1 = Electric
| ability = Lightning Rod
| move1 = Zing Zap | move1type = Electric | move1cat = Physical
| move2 = Poison Jab | move2type = Poison | move2cat = Physical
| move3 = Liquidation | move3type = Water | move3cat = Physical
| move4 = Recover | move4type = Normal | move4cat = Status
}}
{{Pokémon
| walkthrough = yes
| gen = 8
| ndex = 0823
| pokemon = Corviknight
| gender = male
| level = 69
| type1 = Flying
| type2 = Steel
| ability = Unnerve
| move1 = Steel Wing | move1type = Steel | move1cat = Physical
| move2 = Drill Peck | move2type = Flying | move2cat = Physical
| move3 = Swagger | move3type = Normal | move3cat = Status
| move4 = Light Screen | move4type = Psychic | move4cat = Status
}}
{{Pokémon
| walkthrough = yes
| gen = 8
| ndex = 0818
| pokemon = Inteleon
| gender = male
| level = 70
| type1 = Water
| ability = Torrent
| move1 = Snipe Shot | move1type = Water | move1cat = Special
| move2 = Sucker Punch | move2type = Dark | move2cat = Physical
| move3 = Ice Beam | move3type = Ice | move3cat = Special
| move4 = Dark Pulse | move4type = Dark | move4cat = Special
}}
{{Pokémon
| walkthrough = yes
| gen = 8
| ndex = 0888
| pokemon = Zacian
| gender = none
| level = 70
| type1 = Fairy
| type2 = Steel
| ability = Intrepid Sword
| held = Rusted Sword
| move1 = Crunch | move1type = Dark | move1cat = Physical
| move2 = Behemoth Blade | move2type = Steel | move2cat = Physical
| move3 = Wild Charge | move3type = Electric | move3cat = Physical
| move4 = Close Combat | move4type = Fighting | move4cat = Physical
}}
{{Party/end}}
{{Party
| caption = {{PlayerChoice|0813|Scorbunny}}
| walkthrough = yes
| background = {{sword color}}
| border = {{sword color dark}}
| headcolor = {{sword color light}}
| sprite = VSHop 2.png
| size = 150px
| prize = {{PDollar}}11,200
| class = Pokémon Trainer
| name = {{color2|000|Hop}}
| location = Slumbering Weald
| game = Sh
| pokemon = 6
}}
{{Pokémon
| walkthrough = yes
| gen = 8
| ndex = 0832
| pokemon = Dubwool
| gender = male
| level = 69
| type1 = Normal
| ability = Steadfast
| move1 = Cotton Guard | move1type = Grass | move1cat = Status
| move2 = Double Kick | move2type = Fighting | move2cat = Physical
| move3 = Double-Edge | move3type = Normal | move3cat = Physical
| move4 = Headbutt | move4type = Normal | move4cat = Physical
}}
{{Pokémon
| walkthrough = yes
| gen = 8
| ndex = 0143
| pokemon = Snorlax
| gender = male
| level = 68
| type1 = Normal
| ability = Thick Fat
| move1 = Hammer Arm | move1type = Fighting | move1cat = Physical
| move2 = Earthquake | move2type = Ground | move2cat = Physical
| move3 = Heavy Slam | move3type = Steel | move3cat = Physical
| move4 = Crunch | move4type = Dark | move4cat = Physical
}}
{{Pokémon
| walkthrough = yes
| gen = 8
| ndex = 0871
| pokemon = Pincurchin
| gender = female
| level = 68
| type1 = Electric
| ability = Lightning Rod
| move1 = Zing Zap | move1type = Electric | move1cat = Physical
| move2 = Poison Jab | move2type = Poison | move2cat = Physical
| move3 = Liquidation | move3type = Water | move3cat = Physical
| move4 = Recover | move4type = Normal | move4cat = Status
}}
{{Pokémon
| walkthrough = yes
| gen = 8
| ndex = 0823
| pokemon = Corviknight
| gender = male
| level = 69
| type1 = Flying
| type2 = Steel
| ability = Unnerve
| move1 = Steel Wing | move1type = Steel | move1cat = Physical
| move2 = Drill Peck | move2type = Flying | move2cat = Physical
| move3 = Swagger | move3type = Normal | move3cat = Status
| move4 = Light Screen | move4type = Psychic | move4cat = Status
}}
{{Pokémon
| walkthrough = yes
| gen = 8
| ndex = 0812
| pokemon = Rillaboom
| gender = male
| level = 70
| type1 = Grass
| ability = Overgrow
| move1 = Drum Beating | move1type = Grass | move1cat = Physical
| move2 = Slam | move2type = Normal | move2cat = Physical
| move3 = Knock Off | move3type = Dark | move3cat = Physical
| move4 = High Horsepower | move4type = Ground | move4cat = Physical
}}
{{Pokémon
| walkthrough = yes
| gen = 8
| ndex = 0888
| pokemon = Zacian
| gender = none
| level = 70
| type1 = Fairy
| type2 = Steel
| ability = Intrepid Sword
| held = Rusted Sword
| move1 = Crunch | move1type = Dark | move1cat = Physical
| move2 = Behemoth Blade | move2type = Steel | move2cat = Physical
| move3 = Wild Charge | move3type = Electric | move3cat = Physical
| move4 = Close Combat | move4type = Fighting | move4cat = Physical
}}
{{Party/end}}
{{Party
| caption = {{PlayerChoice|0816|Sobble}}
| walkthrough = yes
| background = {{sword color}}
| border = {{sword color dark}}
| headcolor = {{sword color light}}
| sprite = VSHop 2.png
| size = 150px
| prize = {{PDollar}}11,200
| class = Pokémon Trainer
| name = {{color2|000|Hop}}
| location = Slumbering Weald
| game = Sh
| pokemon = 6
}}
{{Pokémon
| walkthrough = yes
| gen = 8
| ndex = 0832
| pokemon = Dubwool
| gender = male
| level = 69
| type1 = Normal
| ability = Steadfast
| move1 = Cotton Guard | move1type = Grass | move1cat = Status
| move2 = Double Kick | move2type = Fighting | move2cat = Physical
| move3 = Double-Edge | move3type = Normal | move3cat = Physical
| move4 = Headbutt | move4type = Normal | move4cat = Physical
}}
{{Pokémon
| walkthrough = yes
| gen = 8
| ndex = 0143
| pokemon = Snorlax
| gender = male
| level = 68
| type1 = Normal
| ability = Thick Fat
| move1 = Hammer Arm | move1type = Fighting | move1cat = Physical
| move2 = Earthquake | move2type = Ground | move2cat = Physical
| move3 = Heavy Slam | move3type = Steel | move3cat = Physical
| move4 = Crunch | move4type = Dark | move4cat = Physical
}}
{{Pokémon
| walkthrough = yes
| gen = 8
| ndex = 0871
| pokemon = Pincurchin
| gender = female
| level = 68
| type1 = Electric
| ability = Lightning Rod
| move1 = Zing Zap | move1type = Electric | move1cat = Physical
| move2 = Poison Jab | move2type = Poison | move2cat = Physical
| move3 = Liquidation | move3type = Water | move3cat = Physical
| move4 = Recover | move4type = Normal | move4cat = Status
}}
{{Pokémon
| walkthrough = yes
| gen = 8
| ndex = 0823
| pokemon = Corviknight
| gender = male
| level = 69
| type1 = Flying
| type2 = Steel
| ability = Unnerve
| move1 = Steel Wing | move1type = Steel | move1cat = Physical
| move2 = Drill Peck | move2type = Flying | move2cat = Physical
| move3 = Swagger | move3type = Normal | move3cat = Status
| move4 = Light Screen | move4type = Psychic | move4cat = Status
}}
{{Pokémon
| walkthrough = yes
| gen = 8
| ndex = 0815
| pokemon = Cinderace
| gender = male
| level = 70
| type1 = Fire
| ability = Blaze
| move1 = Gunk Shot | move1type = Poison | move1cat = Physical
| move2 = Iron Head | move2type = Steel | move2cat = Physical
| move3 = Pyro Ball | move3type = Fire | move3cat = Physical
| move4 = Zen Headbutt | move4type = Psychic | move4cat = Physical
}}
{{Pokémon
| walkthrough = yes
| gen = 8
| ndex = 0888
| pokemon = Zacian
| gender = none
| level = 70
| type1 = Fairy
| type2 = Steel
| ability = Intrepid Sword
| held = Rusted Sword
| move1 = Crunch | move1type = Dark | move1cat = Physical
| move2 = Behemoth Blade | move2type = Steel | move2cat = Physical
| move3 = Wild Charge | move3type = Electric | move3cat = Physical
| move4 = Close Combat | move4type = Fighting | move4cat = Physical
}}
{{Party/end}}

Hop’s team is much the same as it was the last time you fought him, with two key differences. The first is that his party is roughly ten levels higher, so he might well outlevel you at this point, possibly the first time all game. The second is that his {{p|Cramorant}} has had to make way for either Zacian or Zamazenta, undoubtedly now the toughest Pokémon on his team. He still leads off with his trusty {{p|Dubwool}}, which for all its charm does not hit particularly hard. You can use this to your advantage by boosting your stats against it, either with a setup move such as {{m|Bulk Up}} or {{m|Dragon Dance}}, or with the use of X items (or both), and sweeping through his team once you're ready. He always saves his Legend for last, so keep that in mind, and take him out one final time.

The battle helps Hop come to a realization - rather than try to become {{pkmn|Champion}}, he wants to help people and Pokémon in need by becoming a [[Professor]]. The two of you exchange a handshake, acknowledging that you’ll still always be rivals, before Sonia offers Hop the opportunity to become her assistant, which he gladly accepts. Hop hands you his rare League Card as [[Leon]], Piers, Sordward, and Shielbert arrive on the scene. The brothers apologize for their misdeeds, before scampering off to continue on their apology tour. Leon offers his younger words of pride and encouragement, leaving Hop very unusually lost for words, before everyone leaves the altar, your main adventure now at end. There is, however, still more to uncover, including the brand new [[Battle Tower]] in [[Wyndon]], where we’ll go next.

{{WalkthroughPrevNext
|game=Sword
|game2=Shield
|gamename=Pokémon Sword and Shield
|prev=yes
|prevname=Stow-on-Side Stadium, Ballonlea Stadium, Circhester Stadium, Hammerlocke Stadium
|prevsection=23
|next=yes
|nextname=Battle Tower, Hulbury, Motostoke, Spikemuth
|nextsection=25
}}

{{Project Walkthroughs notice}}
[[Category:Sword and Shield walkthrough|024]]

Wild Zone 19

2026-01-10T10:43:44Z

PokeMaster99999: Detailing when this opens up, since it was missing before.

{{Infobox location
|image=Wild Zone 19 ZA.png
|type=jaune
|location_name=Wild Zone 19
|japanese_name=１９番ワイルドゾーン
|translated_name=Wild Zone 19
|reclvl=Lv. 48 or above
|mapdesc=Try to hide yourself behind the greenery to sneak up on wild Pokémon undetected.
|location=[[Jaune District]], [[Lumiose City]]
|region=Kalos
|mapsize=300px
|generation={{gen|IX}}
}}

'''Wild Zone 19''' (Japanese: '''１９番ワイルドゾーン''' ''Wild Zone 19'') is one of the [[wild zone]]s in [[Lumiose City]] in the [[Kalos]] [[region]]. It is located in parts of [[Jaune Sector 8]] in the [[Jaune District]].

It is unlocked at the beginning of Mission 31.



==Pokémon==

{{Catch/header/za|jaune|clear=yes|sun=yes|cloudy=yes|rain=yes|fog=yes}}
{{Catch/entryza|0133|Eevee|48-49|✔|||✔||||||type1=normal}}
{{Catch/entryza|0676|Furfrou|48-51|✔|||✔||||||type1=normal}}
{{Catch/entryza|0780|Drampa|49-51||''{{tt|✔|Only During Morning}}''||✔||||||type1=normal|type2=dragon}}
{{Catch/entryza|0115|Kangaskhan|50-51|✔|||✔||||||type1=normal}}
{{Catch/entryza|0531|Audino|50-51|✔|||✔||||||type1=normal}}
{{Catch/entryza|0035|Clefairy|48-50|||✔|✔||||||type1=fairy}}
{{Catch/entryza|0173|Cleffa|49-50|||✔|✔||||||type1=fairy}}
{{Catch/div|jaune|{{color2|000|Alpha Pokémon|Fixed alpha Pokémon spawns}}}}
{{Catch/entryza|0676|Furfrou|58-61||''{{tt|✔|Only After Morning}}''||✔|||||alpha=yes|type1=normal}}
{{Catch/entryza|0035|Clefairy|58-60|||✔|✔|||||alpha=yes|type1=fairy}}
{{Catch/footer/za|jaune}}

==In other languages==
{{langtable|color={{Locationcolor/light|jaune}}|bordercolor={{Locationcolor/dark|jaune}}
|zh_cmn=１９號野生特區 / １９号野生特区 ''{{tt|Shíjiǔ-Hào Yěshēng Tèqū|Wild Zone 19}}''
|zh_yue=１９號野生特區 ''{{tt|Sahpgáu-Houh Yéhsāang Dahkkēui|Wild Zone 19}}''
|fr=Zone savage nº 19
|de=Wildsektor 19
|it=Zona selvaggia 19
|ko=19번 와일드 존 ''{{tt|Sipgu-Beon Waildeu Jon|Wild Zone 19}}''
|es=Zona salvaje 19
}}

==Related articles==
{{Lumiose City}}
{{Project Locations notice}}

[[Category:Wild zones]]
[[Category:Legends: Z-A locations]]

[[de:Wildsektor 19]]
[[es:Zona salvaje 19]]
[[it:Zona selvaggia 19]]
[[zh:１９號野生特區]]

Wild Zone 18

2026-01-10T10:43:04Z

PokeMaster99999: Detailing when this opens up, since it was missing before.

{{Infobox location
|image=Wild Zone 18 ZA.png
|type=magenta
|location_name=Wild Zone 18
|japanese_name=１８番ワイルドゾーン
|translated_name=Wild Zone 18
|reclvl=Lv. 46 or above
|mapdesc=Use the alleyway and scaffolding wisely to navigate around the tall buildings here.
|location=[[Magenta District]], [[Lumiose City]]
|region=Kalos
|mapsize=300px
|generation={{gen|IX}}
}}

'''Wild Zone 18''' (Japanese: '''１８番ワイルドゾーン''' ''Wild Zone 18'') is one of the [[wild zone]]s in [[Lumiose City]] in the [[Kalos]] [[region]]. It is located in parts of [[Magenta Sector 9]] and [[North Boulevard]] in the [[Magenta District]].

It is unlocked at the beginning of Mission 31.


==Pokémon==
There are 6 Pokémon available in this zone.
{{Catch/header/za|magenta|clear=yes|sun=yes|cloudy=yes|rain=yes|fog=yes}}
{{Catch/entryza|0714|Noibat|44-45|||✔|✔||||||type1=flying|type2=dragon}}
{{Catch/entryza|0653|Fennekin|20-25|✔|||✔||||||type1=fire}}
{{Catch/entryza|0371|Bagon|44-45|✔|||✔||||||type1=dragon}}
{{Catch/entryza|0334|Altaria|46-47||✔||✔||||||type1=dragon|type2=flying}}
{{Catch/entryza|0715|Noivern|48-49|||✔|✔||||||type1=flying|type2=dragon}}
{{Catch/entryza|0333|Swablu|44-45||✔||✔||||||type1=normal|type2=flying}}
{{Catch/div|magenta|{{color2|000|Alpha Pokémon|Fixed alpha Pokémon spawns}}}}
{{Catch/entryza|0373|Salamence|61-62|✔|||✔||||||alpha=yes|type1=dragon|type2=flying}}
{{Catch/entryza|0428|Lopunny|55-56|✔|||✔||||||alpha=yes|type1=normal}}
{{Catch/footer/za|magenta}}


==In other languages==
{{langtable|color={{Locationcolor/light|magenta}}|bordercolor={{Locationcolor/dark|magenta}}
|zh_cmn=１８號野生特區 / １８号野生特区 ''{{tt|Shíbā-Hào Yěshēng Tèqū|Wild Zone 18}}''
|zh_yue=１８號野生特區 ''{{tt|Sahpbaat-Houh Yéhsāang Dahkkēui|Wild Zone 18}}''
|fr=Zone savage nº 18
|de=Wildsektor 18
|it=Zona selvaggia 18
|ko=18번 와일드 존 ''{{tt|Sippal-Beon Waildeu Jon|Wild Zone 18}}''
|es=Zona salvaje 18
}}

==Related articles==
{{Lumiose City}}
{{Project Locations notice}}

[[Category:Wild zones]]
[[Category:Legends: Z-A locations]]

[[de:Wildsektor 18]]
[[es:Zona salvaje 18]]
[[it:Zona selvaggia 18]]
[[zh:１８號野生特區]]

Wild Zone 17

2026-01-09T20:48:05Z

PokeMaster99999: Adding details about when this opens up, too, just like Wild Zone 16.

{{Infobox location
|image=Wild Zone 17 ZA.png
|type=vert
|location_name=Wild Zone 17
|japanese_name=１７番ワイルドゾーン
|translated_name=Wild Zone 17
|reclvl=Lv. 44 or above
|mapdesc=There’s little to hide behind. You may well get surrounded by wild Pokémon here.
|location=[[Vert District]], [[Lumiose City]]
|region=Kalos
|mapsize=300px
|generation={{gen|IX}}
}}

'''Wild Zone 17''' (Japanese: '''１７番ワイルドゾーン''' ''Wild Zone 17'') is one of the [[wild zone]]s in [[Lumiose City]] in the [[Kalos]] [[region]]. It is located in [[Vert Sector 7]] in the [[Vert District]].

It is unlocked at the start of Mission 25.


==Pokémon==
There are 6 Pokémon available in this zone.
{{Catch/header/za|vert|clear=yes|sun=yes|cloudy=yes|rain=yes|fog=yes}}
{{Catch/entryza|0707|Klefki|44-46||✔||✔||||||type1=steel|type2=fairy}}
{{Catch/entryza|0608|Lampent|45-46|||✔|✔||||||type1=ghost|type2=fire}}
{{Catch/entryza|0227|Skarmory|45-46|✔||||✔|✔|✔||✔|type1=steel|type2=flying}}
{{Catch/entryza|0663|Talonflame|45-46|✔|||✔||||||type1=fire|type2=flying}}
{{Catch/entryza|0668-Female|Pyroar|form=Female|44-47|✔|||✔||||||type1=fire|type2=normal}}
{{Catch/entryza|0660|Diggersby|44-46|✔|||✔||||||type1=normal|type2=ground}}
{{Catch/entryza|0650|Chespin|20-25|✔|||✔||||||type1=grass}}
{{Catch/div|vert|{{color2|000|Alpha Pokémon|Fixed alpha Pokémon spawns}}}}
{{Catch/entryza|0668|Pyroar|form=Male|56-57|✔|||✔||||||alpha=yes|type1=fire|type2=normal}}
{{Catch/entryza|0303|Mawile|56-57|✔|||✔||||||alpha=yes|type1=steel|type2=fairy}}
{{Catch/footer/za|vert}}

==Special encounters==
A [[Skarmory]] is battled here during [[Side Mission]] 114: ''A Feather from Skarmory''. It cannot be caught.

{{Pokémon
| gen = ZA
| ndex = 0227
| pokemon = Skarmory
| level = 65
| type1 = Steel
| type2 = Flying
| move1 = Steel Wing
| move1type = Steel
| move1cat = Physical
| move2 = Drill Run
| move2type = Ground
| move2cat = Physical
| move3 = Night Slash
| move3type = Dark
| move3cat = Physical
| move4 = Spikes
| move4type = Ground
| move4cat = Status
}}



==In other languages==
{{langtable|color={{Locationcolor/light|vert}}|bordercolor={{Locationcolor/dark|vert}}
|zh_cmn=１７號野生特區 / １７号野生特区 ''{{tt|Shíqī-Hào Yěshēng Tèqū|Wild Zone 17}}''
|zh_yue=１７號野生特區 ''{{tt|Sahpchāt-Houh Yéhsāang Dahkkēui|Wild Zone 17}}''
|fr=Zone sauvage nº 17
|de=Wildsektor 17
|it=Zona selvaggia 17
|ko=17번 와일드 존 ''{{tt|Sipchil-Beon Waildeu Jon|Wild Zone 17}}''
|es=Zona salvaje 17
}}

==Related articles==
{{Lumiose City}}
{{Project Locations notice}}

[[Category:Wild zones]]
[[Category:Legends: Z-A locations]]

[[de:Wildsektor 17]]
[[es:Zona salvaje 17]]
[[fr:Zone sauvage n° 17]]
[[it:Zona selvaggia 17]]
[[zh:１７號野生特區]]

Wild Zone 16

2026-01-09T20:46:16Z

PokeMaster99999: Adding a line detailing when Wild Zone 16 opens up - previously lacked details about this.

{{Infobox location
|image=Wild Zone 16 ZA.png
|type=bleu
|location_name=Wild Zone 16
|japanese_name=１６番ワイルドゾーン
|translated_name=Wild Zone 16
|reclvl=Lv. 42 or above
|mapdesc=Watch out for obstacles when throwing Poké Balls in this zone of varied terrain.
|location=[[Bleu District]], [[Lumiose City]]
|region=Kalos
|mapsize=300px
|generation={{gen|IX}}
}}

'''Wild Zone 16''' (Japanese: '''１６番ワイルドゾーン''' ''Wild Zone 16'') is one of the [[wild zone]]s in [[Lumiose City]] in the [[Kalos]] [[region]]. It is located at [[Bleu Plaza]] in the [[Bleu District]].

It is unlocked at the start of Mission 25.


==Pokémon==
There are 7 Pokémon available in this zone.
{{Catch/header/za|bleu|clear=yes|sun=yes|cloudy=yes|rain=yes|fog=yes}}
{{Catch/entryza|0870|Falinks|41-42|✔|||✔||||||type1=fighting}}
{{Catch/entryza|0180|Flaaffy|40-41|✔|||✔||||||type1=electric}}
{{Catch/entryza|0121|Starmie|41-43|||✔|✔||||||type1=water|type2=psychic}}
{{Catch/entryza|0689|Barbaracle|41-43|||✔|✔||||||type1=rock|type2=water}}
{{Catch/entryza|0308|Medicham|40-42||✔||✔||||||type1=fighting|type2=psychic}}
{{Catch/entryza|0671|Florges|form=Red Flower|42-43||✔||✔||||||type1=fairy}}
{{Catch/entryza|0671-Blue|Florges|form=Blue Flower|42-43||✔||✔||||||type1=fairy}}
{{Catch/entryza|0671-White|Florges|form=White Flower|42-43||✔||✔||||||type1=fairy}}
{{Catch/entryza|0656|Froakie|20-25|✔|||✔||||||type1=water}}
{{Catch/div|bleu|{{color2|000|Alpha Pokémon|Fixed alpha Pokémon spawns}}}}
{{Catch/entryza|0181|Ampharos|52-53|✔|||✔|||||alpha=yes|type1=electric}}
{{Catch/footer/za|bleu}}



==In other languages==
{{langtable|color={{Locationcolor/light|bleu}}|bordercolor={{Locationcolor/dark|bleu}}
|zh_cmn=１６號野生特區 / １６号野生特区 ''{{tt|Shíliù-Hào Yěshēng Tèqū|Wild Zone 16}}''
|zh_yue=１６號野生特區 ''{{tt|Sahpluhk-Houh Yéhsāang Dahkkēui|Wild Zone 16}}''
|fr=Zone savage nº 16
|de=Wildsektor 16
|it=Zona selvaggia 16
|ko=16번 와일드 존 ''{{tt|Simnyuk-Beon Waildeu Jon|Wild Zone 16}}''
|es=Zona salvaje 16
}}

==Related articles==
{{Lumiose City}}
{{Project Locations notice}}

[[Category:Wild zones]]
[[Category:Legends: Z-A locations]]

[[de:Wildsektor 16]]
[[es:Zona salvaje 16]]
[[fr:Zone sauvage n° 16]]
[[it:Zona selvaggia 16]]
[[zh:１６號野生特區]]

Sneasel (Pokémon)

2024-06-24T09:30:36Z

PokeMaster99999: Johto Sneasel learns Throat Chop by TM, but it's not italicised to indicate STAB. Hopefully this fixes it.

{{PokémonPrevNext/Head|type=Dark|type2=Ice}}
{{PokémonPrevNext/GO|species=Sneasel}}
{{PokémonPrevNext/Pokémon|type=Dark|prevnum=0214|prev=Heracross|nextnum=0216|next=Teddiursa|round=none}}
{{PokémonPrevNext/Disambig|species=Sneasel}}
|}
{{Pokémon Infobox
|name=Sneasel
|jname=ニューラ
|jtranslit=Nyūra
|tmname=Nyula
|category=Sharp Claw
|ndex=0215
|forme=2
|form1=Sneasel
|form2=Hisuian Sneasel
|image2=0215Sneasel-Hisui.png
|type1=Dark
|type2=Ice
|form2type1=Fighting
|form2type2=Poison
|height-ftin=2'11"
|height-m=0.9
|weight-lbs=61.7
|weight-kg=28.0
|weight-lbs2=59.5
|weight-kg2=27.0
|abilityn=d
|ability1=Inner Focus
|ability2=Keen Eye
|abilityd=Pickpocket
|egggroupn=1
|egggroup1=Field
|eggcycles=20
|evtotal=1
|evsp=1
|expyield=86
|oldexp=132
|lv100exp=1,059,860
|gendercode=127
|color=Black
|formcolors=yes
|catchrate=60
|body=06
|pokefordex=sneasel
|generation=2
|friendship=35
}}
'''Sneasel''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''ニューラ''' ''Nyula'') is a dual-type {{2t|Dark|Ice}} {{OBP|Pokémon|species}} introduced in [[Generation II]].

It [[Evolution|evolve]]s into {{p|Weavile}} when [[level]]ed up while holding a [[Razor Claw]] during the {{DL|Time|Time-based evolutions|night}}.

In [[Hisui]], Sneasel has a dual-type {{2t|Fighting|Poison}} [[regional form]]. It evolves into {{p|Sneasler}} when [[level]]ed up while holding a Razor Claw during the day.

(Specifics may differ in past games. Refer to [[#Evolution data|Game data→Evolution data]] for more details.)

==Biology==
Sneasel is a bipedal {{wp|mustelid}} {{OBP|Pokémon|species}} that resembles both a cat and a weasel. It is primarily bluish-black with three bright red feathers for its tail and a single one on its left ear. The ear feather is shorter on the female than on the male. The other ear is short and pointed, and it has narrow red eyes. On its forehead and chest are oval, yellow gem-like protrusions. It has red eyes with black eyelash-like markings on the edges. It has long limbs with two large, white retractable claws on its hands and feet. It is perfectly capable of using its claws to do substantial damage. Its claws are also used for climbing trees in {{DL|List of Pokémon by habitat|Forest Pokémon|boreal or sub-alpine forests}} where it lives. It can also bring out its claws to startle foes that attacked it.

Sneasel is a smart, sneaky, and notoriously vicious Pokémon, and blends well into the night in order to ambush their prey. Sneasel feeds on {{pkmn|Eggs}}, such as those of {{p|Pidgey}}, that it steals from unattended nests. It uses its claws to poke a hole in the Egg before slurping the contents out. It has been known to form pairs to hunt: one Sneasel will lure the parents away from their nest, while the other steals their Eggs. Although the Sneasel pair works together, they will also fight over their hunt among themselves. As a result of its Egg-based diet, Sneasel are despised by [[Pokémon Breeder (Trainer class)|Breeders]] to the point where they try to drive away or eradicate the former. Sneasel also preys on {{rf|Alolan}} {{p|Sandshrew}}, but the Sandshrew's skin is so hard that it can cause Sneasel's claws to snap off.

Prior to [[Generation IV]], {{m|Beat Up}} was its [[signature move]], but other Pokémon could still inherit it via {{pkmn|breeding}}.

===Forms===
Sneasel has a [[regional form]]: {{rf|Hisuian}} Sneasel.

In [[Hisui]], Sneasel has a similar appearance to its Johtonian counterpart. It has a white body with purple colorations on its face, chest, shoulders, and forelimbs. The feathers on its tail and ear are light purple; like Johtonian Sneasel, the ear feather is shorter on the female than on the male. It has rounder eyes than its Johtonian form, although it shares the latter's gem-like protrusions, as well as the large claws on its hands and feet. The claws are tipped with poison, and are purple on its forelimbs and white on its feet.

Hisuian Sneasel's sturdy and curved claws allow it to climb and travel through the walls of precipitous cliffs where it lives. The venom from the tips of its claws is capable of invading the nervous system of any prey it scratches. It has been observed that Hisuian Sneasel lacks the spitefulness of its Johtonian counterpart, and it has been theorized that differences in their environments account for the differing personalities. As a result, Hisuian Sneasel evolves into {{p|Sneasler}} instead of {{p|Weavile}}.

===Evolution===
Sneasel evolves into {{p|Weavile}}.

{{rf|Hisuian}} Sneasel evolves into {{p|Sneasler}}.
<div style="display: flex; flex-wrap: wrap; justify-content: space-evenly">

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'''Sneasel'''
{{Evobox-2
|type1=Dark
|type2=Ice
|pictype=art
|no1=0215
|name1=Sneasel
|type1-1=Dark
|type2-1=Ice
|evo1=
|no2=0461
|name2=Weavile
|type1-2=Dark
|type2-2=Ice}}
</div>

<div style="max-width:100%; text-align:center;">
'''Hisuian Sneasel'''
{{Evobox-2
|type1=Fighting
|type2=Poison
|pictype=sprite
|no1=0215Sneasel-Hisui
|name1=Sneasel
|form1=Hisuian Form
|type1-1=Fighting
|type2-1=Poison
|evo1=
|no2=0903Sneasler
|name2=Sneasler
|type1-2=Fighting
|type2-2=Poison}}
</div>
</div>

==Game data==
===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex/Header|type=Dark|type2=Ice}}
{{Dex/NA|gen=II}}
{{Dex/Gen/1|gen=II|reg1=Johto|num1=213}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Gold|entry=Its paws conceal sharp claws. If attacked, it suddenly extends the claws and startles its enemy.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Silver|entry=Vicious in nature, it drives Pidgey from their nests and feasts on the eggs that are left behind.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Crystal|entry=This cunning Pokémon hides in the cover of darkness, waiting to attack its prey.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Stadium 2|t=FFF|color=000|entry=Its paws conceal sharp claws. If attacked, it suddenly extends the claws and startles its enemy.}}
|}
|}
{{Dex/Gen/2|gen=III|reg1=Hoenn|reg2=Kanto}}
{{Dex/Entry2|v=Ruby|v2=Sapphire|t=FFF|t2=FFF|entry=Sneasel scales trees by punching its hooked claws into the bark. This Pokémon seeks out unguarded nests and steals eggs for food while the parents are away.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Emerald|t=FFF|entry=A Sneasel scales trees by punching its hooked claws into the bark. It seeks out unguarded nests and steals eggs for food while the parents are away.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=FireRed|entry=Vicious in nature, it drives Pidgey from their nests and feasts on the Eggs that are left behind.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=LeafGreen|entry=Its paws conceal sharp claws. If attacked, it suddenly extends the claws and startles its enemy.}}
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{{Dex/Gen/2|gen=IV|reg1=Sinnoh|num1=144|reg2=Johto|num2=218}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Diamond|entry=It feeds on Eggs stolen from nests. Its sharply hooked claws rip vulnerable spots on prey.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Pearl|entry=It is extremely vicious and will not stop attacking until its foe is incapable of moving.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Platinum|entry=A smart and sneaky Pokémon. A pair may work together to steal Eggs by having one lure the parents away.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=HeartGold|entry=Its paws conceal sharp claws. If attacked, it suddenly extends the claws and startles its enemy.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=SoulSilver|entry=Vicious in nature, it drives Pidgey from their nests and scavenges any leftovers it can find.}}
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{{Dex/Gen/1|gen=V|reg1=Unova|num1=252|label1={{gameIcon|B2}}{{gameIcon|W2}}:}}
{{Dex/Entry2|v=Black|v2=White|t=FFF|entry=A smart and sneaky Pokémon. A pair may work together to steal Eggs by having one lure the parents away.}}
{{Dex/Entry2|v=Black 2|v2=White 2|t=FFF|entry=A smart and sneaky Pokémon, it makes its opponents flinch by suddenly showing the claws hidden in its paws.}}
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{{Dex/Gen/2|gen=VI|reg1=Kalos|num1=091|label1=Mountain|reg2=Hoenn}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=X|t=FFF|entry=It feeds on eggs stolen from nests. Its sharply hooked claws rip vulnerable spots on prey.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Y|t=FFF|entry=Its paws conceal sharp claws. If attacked, it suddenly extends the claws and startles its enemy.}}
{{Dex/Entry2|v=Omega Ruby|v2=Alpha Sapphire|t=FFF|t2=fff|entry=Sneasel scales trees by punching its hooked claws into the bark. This Pokémon seeks out unguarded nests and steals eggs for food while the parents are away.}}
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{{Dex/Gen/3|gen=VII|reg1=Alola|num1=249|label1={{gameIcon|Su}}{{gameIcon|M}}:|reg2=Alola|num2=326|label2={{gameIcon|US}}{{gameIcon|UM}}:|reg3=Kanto}}
{{Dex/NE|[[Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee!|Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee!]]}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Sun|entry=It has a cunning yet savage disposition. It waits for parents to leave their nests, and then it sneaks in to steal their eggs.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Moon|entry=It uses its claws to poke holes in eggs so it can slurp out the insides. Breeders consider it a scourge and will drive it away or eradicate it.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Ultra Sun|t=FFF|entry=They will cooperate to steal eggs from the nests of bird Pokémon, but fights break out to determine which one gets to eat the eggs.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Ultra Moon|t=FFF|entry=It blends into the dark of night to ambush its prey. Sneasel will attack Sandshrew, but its hard skin can cause Sneasel's claws to snap off.}}
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{{Dex/Gen/4|gen=VIII|reg1=Galar|num1=292|reg2=Galar|label2=Crown Tundra|num2=028|reg3=Sinnoh|num3=144|reg4=Hisui|num4=202}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Sword|t=FFF|entry=Its paws conceal sharp claws. If attacked, it suddenly extends the claws and startles its enemy.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Shield|t=FFF|entry=It has a cunning yet savage disposition. It waits for parents to leave their nests, and then it sneaks in to steal their eggs.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Brilliant Diamond|entry=It feeds on eggs stolen from nests. Its sharply hooked claws rip vulnerable spots on prey.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Shining Pearl|entry=It is extremely vicious and will not stop attacking until its foe is incapable of moving.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Legends: Arceus|t=FFF|entry=This Pokémon shares roots with the Sneasel of Hisui, but unlike that species, this one is spiteful in personality. I hypothesize that water and earth can affect Sneasel's mind and body.}}
{{Dex/Form|Hisuian Sneasel}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Legends: Arceus|t=FFF|entry=Its sturdy, curved claws are ideal for traversing precipitous cliffs. From the tips of these claws drips a venom that infiltrates the nerves of any prey caught in Sneasel's grasp.}}
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{{Dex/Gen/3|gen=IX|reg1=Paldea|num1=230|reg2=Kitakami|num2=170|reg3=Blueberry}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Scarlet|t=fff|entry=This cunning Pokémon hides under the cover of darkness, waiting to attack its prey.}}
{{Dex/Entry1|v=Violet|t=FFF|entry=This is a smart and sneaky Pokémon. A pair may work together to steal eggs by having one lure the parents away.}}
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|Sneasel in the {{color2|000|List of Pokémon by Alola Pokédex number|Alola Pokédex}}
|Sneasel in the {{color2|000|List of Pokémon by Paldea Pokédex number|Paldea Pokédex}}
|Sneasel in the {{color2|000|List of Pokémon by Kitakami Pokédex number|Kitakami Pokédex}}
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===Game locations===
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{{Availability/Entry1|v=Legends: Arceus|t=FFF|area='''[[Obsidian Fieldlands]]:''' [[Space-time distortion]]s ('''Johtonian Form''') '''[[Coronet Highlands]]:''' near [[Celestica Trail]], near [[Primeval Grotto]], massive [[mass outbreak]]s ('''Hisuian Form''') '''[[Alabaster Icelands]]:''' near [[Avalugg's Legacy]] (additional [[File:Alpha icon.png|link=Alpha Pokémon|14px]]), [[Glacier Terrace]], near [[Pearl Settlement]] ('''Hisuian Form''')}}
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{{Availability/Gen|gen=IX}}
{{Availability/Entry2|v=Scarlet|v2=Violet|t=FFF|t2=FFF|area=North Province: [[Dalizapa Passage]], [[Glaseado Mountain]] ('''Johtonian Form''') North Province: [[Dalizapa Passage]] ({{t|Fighting}} [[Terastal phenomenon|Tera]] [[Type]]) ('''Johtonian Form''') [[Area Zero]] ('''Johtonian Form''') [[Tera Raid Battle]]s ({{DL|List of 3★ Tera Raid Battles (Paldea)|Sneasel|3★}}) ('''Johtonian Form''') {{g|HOME}} ('''Hisuian Form''')}}
{{Availability/Entry1|v=The Hidden Treasure of Area Zero|color={{Teal Mask color}}|t={{Indigo Disk color}}|link=The Hidden Treasure of Area Zero|area=[[Oni Mountain]], [[Chilling Waterhead]], [[Timeless Woods]] ('''Johtonian Form''')}}
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====In side games====
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{{Availability/Entry1|v=MD Sky|link=Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky|area=[[Blizzard Island]] (1F-20F), [[Crevice Cave]] (B1F-B10F, Lower Crevice Cave B1F-B4F), [[Mt. Avalanche]] (1F-19F)}}
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====In events====
{{eventAvail/h|type=Dark|type2=Ice}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev2|GSC}}|Gotta Catch 'Em All Station! Moonlight Sneasel|English|United States|5|December 27, 2002 to January 2, 2003|link=List of PCNY event Pokémon distributions (Generation II)#Moonlight Sneasel}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev3|RSEFRLG}}|Gather More Pokémon! Third Campaign Sneasel|Japanese|Japan|10|January 14 to 29, 2006|link=List of Gather More Pokémon! Campaign event Pokémon#Sneasel}}
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===Held items===
====Sneasel====
In {{g|Emerald}}, Sneasel can only be found in the {{OBP|Battle Frontier|Generation III}}.
{{HeldItems/header|type=Dark|type2=Ice}}
{{HeldItems/Games2|Gold|Silver|Pokémon Gold and Silver Versions}}
{{HeldItems/Items1|Quick Claw|2|rows=2}}
{{HeldItems/Games1|Crystal|Pokémon Crystal Version}}
{{HeldItems/Games1|Emerald|tcolor=fff|Pokémon Emerald Version}}
{{HeldItems/Items1|Quick Claw|5}}
{{HeldItems/Games2|Diamond|Pearl|Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions}}
{{HeldItems/Items2|Grip Claw|50|Quick Claw|5|rows=6}}
{{HeldItems/Games1|Platinum|Pokémon Platinum Version}}
{{HeldItems/Games2|HeartGold|SoulSilver|Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions}}
{{HeldItems/Games2|Black|White|tcolor1=FFF|Pokémon Black and White Versions}}
{{HeldItems/Games2|Black 2|White 2|tcolor1=FFF|Pokémon Black and White Versions 2}}
{{HeldItems/Games2|X|Y|tcolor1=fff|Pokémon X and Y}}
{{HeldItems/Games2|Sun|Moon|Pokémon Sun and Moon}}
{{HeldItems/Items1|Quick Claw|5|rows=4}}
{{HeldItems/Games2|Ultra Sun|Ultra Moon|tcolor1=FFF|tcolor2=FFF|Pokémon Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon}}
{{HeldItems/Games2|Sword|Shield|tcolor1=FFF|tcolor2=FFF|Pokémon Sword and Shield}}
{{HeldItems/Games2|Brilliant Diamond|Shining Pearl|Pokémon Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl}}
{{HeldItems/Games1|Legends: Arceus|tcolor=FFF|Pokémon Legends: Arceus}}
{{HeldItems/ItemsLA|Pep-Up Plant|35|Razor Claw|8|Exp. Candy S|100|Seed of Mastery|10}}
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====Hisuian Sneasel====
{{HeldItems/header|type=Fighting|type2=Poison}}
{{HeldItems/Games1|Legends: Arceus|tcolor=FFF|Pokémon Legends: Arceus}}
{{HeldItems/ItemsLA|Pep-Up Plant|35|Razor Claw|8|Exp. Candy S|100|Seed of Mastery|10}}
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===Stats===
====Base stats====
=====Sneasel=====
{{BaseStats
|type=Dark
|type2=Ice
|HP= 55
|Attack= 95
|Defense=55
|SpAtk= 35
|SpDef= 75
|Speed= 115}}

=====Hisuian Sneasel=====
Hisuian Sneasel has the same base stats as Johtonian Sneasel. Due to the different way stats are calculated in [[Pokémon Legends: Arceus]], exact minimum and maximum stats are not shown in this table.

====Pokéathlon stats====
{{Pokéthlon
|type=Dark
|type2=Ice
|Speed=5
|SpeedMax=5
|Power=2
|PowerMax=3
|Technique=4
|TechniqueMax=5
|Stamina=1
|StaminaMax=1
|Jump=3
|JumpMax=4
}}

===Type effectiveness===
====Sneasel====
{{TypeEffectiveness
|type1=Dark
|type2=Ice
|Normal= 100
|Fighting=400
|Flying= 100
|Poison= 100
|Ground= 100
|Rock= 200
|Bug= 200
|Ghost= 50
|Steel= 200
|Fire= 200
|Water= 100
|Grass= 100
|Electric=100
|Psychic= 0
|Ice= 50
|Dragon= 100
|Dark= 50
|Fairy= 200
|notes=yes
|dark=yes
|newpsychic=1}}

====Hisuian Sneasel====
{{TypeEffectiveness
|type1=Fighting
|type2=Poison
|Normal= 100
|Fighting= 50
|Flying= 200
|Poison= 50
|Ground= 200
|Rock= 50
|Bug= 25
|Ghost= 100
|Steel= 100
|Fire= 100
|Water= 100
|Grass= 50
|Electric=100
|Psychic= 400
|Ice= 100
|Dragon= 100
|Dark= 50
|Fairy= 100
}}

===Learnset===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
=====Sneasel=====
{{learnlist/levelh/9|Sneasel|Dark|Ice|2}}
{{learnlist/level9|1|Scratch|Normal|Physical|40|100|35}}
{{learnlist/level9|1|Leer|Normal|Status|—|100|30}}
{{learnlist/level9|6|Taunt|Dark|Status|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/level9|12|Quick Attack|Normal|Physical|40|100|30}}
{{learnlist/level9|18|Metal Claw|Steel|Physical|50|95|35}}
{{learnlist/level9|24|Icy Wind|Ice|Special|55|95|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/level9|30|Fury Swipes|Normal|Physical|18|80|15}}
{{learnlist/level9|36|Hone Claws|Dark|Status|—|—|15}}
{{learnlist/level9|42|Beat Up|Dark|Physical|—|100|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/level9|48|Agility|Psychic|Status|—|—|30}}
{{learnlist/level9|54|Screech|Normal|Status|—|85|40}}
{{learnlist/level9|60|Slash|Normal|Physical|70|100|20}}
{{learnlist/levelf/9|Sneasel|Dark|Ice|2}}

=====Hisuian Sneasel=====
{{learnlist/levelh/9|Sneasel|Fighting|Poison|8}}
{{learnlist/level9|1|Scratch|Normal|Physical|40|100|35}}
{{learnlist/level9|1|Leer|Normal|Status|—|100|30}}
{{learnlist/level9|1|Rock Smash|Fighting|Physical|40|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/level9|6|Taunt|Dark|Status|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/level9|12|Quick Attack|Normal|Physical|40|100|30}}
{{learnlist/level9|18|Metal Claw|Steel|Physical|50|95|35}}
{{learnlist/level9|24|Poison Jab|Poison|Physical|80|100|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/level9|30|Brick Break|Fighting|Physical|75|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/level9|36|Hone Claws|Dark|Status|—|—|15}}
{{learnlist/level9|42|Slash|Normal|Physical|70|100|20}}
{{learnlist/level9|48|Agility|Psychic|Status|—|—|30}}
{{learnlist/level9|54|Screech|Normal|Status|—|85|40}}
{{learnlist/level9|60|Close Combat|Fighting|Physical|120|100|5||'''}}
{{learnlist/levelf/9|Sneasel|Fighting|Poison|8}}

====By [[TM]]====
=====Sneasel=====
{{learnlist/tmh/9|Sneasel|Dark|Ice|2}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM001|Take Down|Normal|Physical|90|85|20}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM003|Fake Tears|Dark|Status|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM004|Agility|Psychic|Status|—|—|30}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM006|Scary Face|Normal|Status|—|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM007|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM011|Water Pulse|Water|Special|60|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM012|Low Kick|Fighting|Physical|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM018|Thief|Dark|Physical|60|100|25||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM020|Trailblaze|Grass|Physical|50|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM025|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM027|Aerial Ace|Flying|Physical|60|—|20}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM030|Snarl|Dark|Special|55|95|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM031|Metal Claw|Steel|Physical|50|95|35}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM032|Swift|Normal|Special|60|—|20}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM034|Icy Wind|Ice|Special|55|95|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM039|Low Sweep|Fighting|Physical|65|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM043|Fling|Dark|Physical|—|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM046|Avalanche|Ice|Physical|60|100|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM047|Endure|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM049|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|—|—|5}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM050|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM052|Snowscape|Ice|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM055|Dig|Ground|Physical|80|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM057|False Swipe|Normal|Physical|40|100|40}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM058|Brick Break|Fighting|Physical|75|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM061|Shadow Claw|Ghost|Physical|70|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM062|Foul Play|Dark|Physical|95|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM069|Ice Punch|Ice|Physical|75|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM070|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM083|Poison Jab|Poison|Physical|80|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM085|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|5}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM087|Taunt|Dark|Status|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM088|Swords Dance|Normal|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM094|Dark Pulse|Dark|Special|80|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM103|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM105|X-Scissor|Bug|Physical|80|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM114|Shadow Ball|Ghost|Special|80|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM123|Surf|Water|Special|90|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM129|Calm Mind|Psychic|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM130|Helping Hand|Normal|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM134|Reversal|Fighting|Physical|—|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM135|Ice Beam|Ice|Special|90|100|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM140|Nasty Plot|Dark|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM143|Blizzard|Ice|Special|110|70|5||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM152|Giga Impact|Normal|Physical|150|90|5}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM171|Tera Blast|Normal|Special|80|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM177|Spite|Ghost|Status|—|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM181|Knock Off|Dark|Physical|65|100|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM187|Icicle Spear|Ice|Physical|25|100|30||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM192|Focus Punch|Fighting|Physical|150|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM199|Lash Out|Dark|Physical|75|100|5||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM212|Triple Axel|Ice|Physical|20|90|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM221|Throat Chop|Dark|Physical|80|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM229|Upper Hand|Fighting|Physical|65|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tmf/9|Sneasel|Dark|Ice|2}}

=====Hisuian Sneasel=====
{{learnlist/tmh/9|Sneasel|Fighting|Poison|8}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM001|Take Down|Normal|Physical|90|85|20}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM004|Agility|Psychic|Status|—|—|30}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM007|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM012|Low Kick|Fighting|Physical|—|100|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM013|Acid Spray|Poison|Special|40|100|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM018|Thief|Dark|Physical|60|100|25}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM020|Trailblaze|Grass|Physical|50|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM025|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM026|Poison Tail|Poison|Physical|50|100|25||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM027|Aerial Ace|Flying|Physical|60|—|20}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM031|Metal Claw|Steel|Physical|50|95|35}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM032|Swift|Normal|Special|60|—|20}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM039|Low Sweep|Fighting|Physical|65|100|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM043|Fling|Dark|Physical|—|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM045|Venoshock|Poison|Special|65|100|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM047|Endure|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM049|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|—|—|5}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM050|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM055|Dig|Ground|Physical|80|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM057|False Swipe|Normal|Physical|40|100|40}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM058|Brick Break|Fighting|Physical|75|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM061|Shadow Claw|Ghost|Physical|70|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM064|Bulk Up|Fighting|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM070|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM081|Grass Knot|Grass|Special|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM083|Poison Jab|Poison|Physical|80|100|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM085|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|5}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM087|Taunt|Dark|Status|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM088|Swords Dance|Normal|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM091|Toxic Spikes|Poison|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM102|Gunk Shot|Poison|Physical|120|80|5||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM103|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM105|X-Scissor|Bug|Physical|80|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM114|Shadow Ball|Ghost|Special|80|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM129|Calm Mind|Psychic|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM134|Reversal|Fighting|Physical|—|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM140|Nasty Plot|Dark|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM148|Sludge Bomb|Poison|Special|90|100|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM152|Giga Impact|Normal|Physical|150|90|5}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM158|Focus Blast|Fighting|Special|120|70|5||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM167|Close Combat|Fighting|Physical|120|100|5||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM171|Tera Blast|Normal|Special|80|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM175|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|90|10}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM177|Spite|Ghost|Status|—|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM184|Vacuum Wave|Fighting|Special|40|100|30||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM192|Focus Punch|Fighting|Physical|150|100|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM199|Lash Out|Dark|Physical|75|100|5}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM213|Coaching|Fighting|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM214|Sludge Wave|Poison|Special|95|100|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm9|TM221|Throat Chop|Dark|Physical|80|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tmf/9|Sneasel|Fighting|Poison|8}}

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
=====Sneasel=====
{{learnlist/breedh/9|Sneasel|Dark|Ice|2}}
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{{learnlist/breed9|{{MSP/H|0287|Slakoth}}{{MSP/H|0288|Vigoroth}}{{MSP/H|0289|Slaking}}{{MSP/H|0335|Zangoose}}{{MSP/H|0448|Lucario}}{{MSP/H|0745|Lycanroc|form=-Midnight}}{{MSP/H|0745|Lycanroc|form=-Dusk}}{{MSP/H|0749|Mudbray}}{{MSP/H|0750|Mudsdale}}{{MSP/H|0813|Scorbunny}}{{MSP/H|0814|Raboot}}{{MSP/H|0815|Cinderace}}{{MSP/H|0819|Skwovet}}{{MSP/H|0820|Greedent}}{{MSP/H|0979|Annihilape}}|Counter|Fighting|Physical|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/breed9|{{MSP/H|0190|Aipom}}{{MSP/H|0424|Ambipom}}{{MSP/H|0203|Girafarig}}{{MSP/H|0981|Farigiraf}}{{MSP/H|0335|Zangoose}}{{MSP/H|0418|Buizel}}{{MSP/H|0419|Floatzel}}{{MSP/H|0473|Mamoswine}}{{MSP/H|0811|Thwackey}}{{MSP/H|0812|Rillaboom}}{{MSP/H|0963|Finizen}}{{MSP/H|0964|Palafin}}|Double Hit|Normal|Physical|35|90|10}}
{{learnlist/breed9|{{MSP/H|0052|Meowth}}{{MSP/H|0052|Meowth|form=-Alola}}{{MSP/H|0052|Meowth|form=-Galar}}{{MSP/H|0053|Persian}}{{MSP/H|0053|Persian|form=-Alola}}{{MSP/H|0863|Perrserker}}{{MSP/H|0274|Nuzleaf}}{{MSP/H|0275|Shiftry}}{{MSP/H|0619|Mienfoo}}{{MSP/H|0620|Mienshao}}{{MSP/H|0677|Espurr}}{{MSP/H|0678|Meowstic}}|Fake Out|Normal|Physical|40|100|10}}
{{learnlist/breed9|{{MSP/H|0025|Pikachu}}{{MSP/H|0026|Raichu}}{{MSP/H|0026|Raichu|form=-Alola}}{{MSP/H|0052|Meowth}}{{MSP/H|0052|Meowth|form=-Alola}}{{MSP/H|0053|Persian}}{{MSP/H|0053|Persian|form=-Alola}}{{MSP/H|0335|Zangoose}}{{MSP/H|0336|Seviper}}{{MSP/H|0391|Monferno}}{{MSP/H|0392|Infernape}}{{MSP/H|0434|Stunky}}{{MSP/H|0435|Skuntank}}{{MSP/H|0448|Lucario}}{{MSP/H|0652|Chesnaught}}{{MSP/H|0815|Cinderace}}|Feint|Normal|Physical|30|100|10}}
{{learnlist/breed9|{{MSP/H|0037-Alola|Vulpix}}{{MSP/H|0038-Alola|Ninetales}}{{MSP/H|0086|Seel}}{{MSP/H|0087|Dewgong}}{{MSP/H|0220|Swinub}}{{MSP/H|0221|Piloswine}}{{MSP/H|0473|Mamoswine}}{{MSP/H|0461|Weavile}}{{MSP/H|0471|Glaceon}}{{MSP/H|0974|Cetoddle}}{{MSP/H|0975|Cetitan}}|Ice Shard|Ice|Physical|40|100|30||'''}}
{{learnlist/breed9|{{MSP/H|0028-Alola|Sandslash}}{{MSP/H|0614|Beartic}}|Icicle Crash|Ice|Physical|85|90|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/breed9|{{MSP/H|0037|Vulpix}}{{MSP/H|0037-Alola|Vulpix}}{{MSP/H|0038|Ninetales}}{{MSP/H|0038-Alola|Ninetales}}{{MSP/H|0570|Zorua|form=-Hisui}}{{MSP/H|0571|Zoroark|form=-Hisui}}{{tt|*|Hisuian Zorua learned Spite via level-up prior to Version 2.0.1; it can still learn Spite via TM177}}|Spite|Ghost|Status|—|100|10}}
{{learnlist/breedf/9|Sneasel|Dark|Ice|2}}

=====Hisuian Sneasel=====
{{learnlist/breedh/9|Sneasel|Fighting|Poison|8}}
{{learnlist/breed9|{{MSP/H|0287|Slakoth}}{{MSP/H|0288|Vigoroth}}{{MSP/H|0289|Slaking}}{{MSP/H|0335|Zangoose}}{{MSP/H|0448|Lucario}}{{MSP/H|0745|Lycanroc|form=-Midnight}}{{MSP/H|0745|Lycanroc|form=-Dusk}}{{MSP/H|0749|Mudbray}}{{MSP/H|0750|Mudsdale}}{{MSP/H|0813|Scorbunny}}{{MSP/H|0814|Raboot}}{{MSP/H|0815|Cinderace}}{{MSP/H|0819|Skwovet}}{{MSP/H|0820|Greedent}}{{MSP/H|0979|Annihilape}}|Counter|Fighting|Physical|—|100|20|grid=8}}
{{learnlist/breed9|{{MSP/H|0190|Aipom}}{{MSP/H|0424|Ambipom}}{{MSP/H|0203|Girafarig}}{{MSP/H|0981|Farigiraf}}{{MSP/H|0335|Zangoose}}{{MSP/H|0418|Buizel}}{{MSP/H|0419|Floatzel}}{{MSP/H|0473|Mamoswine}}{{MSP/H|0811|Thwackey}}{{MSP/H|0812|Rillaboom}}{{MSP/H|0963|Finizen}}{{MSP/H|0964|Palafin}}|Double Hit|Normal|Physical|35|90|10|grid=8}}
{{learnlist/breed9|{{MSP/H|0052|Meowth}}{{MSP/H|0052|Meowth|form=-Alola}}{{MSP/H|0052|Meowth|form=-Galar}}{{MSP/H|0053|Persian}}{{MSP/H|0053|Persian|form=-Alola}}{{MSP/H|0863|Perrserker}}{{MSP/H|0274|Nuzleaf}}{{MSP/H|0275|Shiftry}}{{MSP/H|0619|Mienfoo}}{{MSP/H|0620|Mienshao}}{{MSP/H|0677|Espurr}}{{MSP/H|0678|Meowstic}}|Fake Out|Normal|Physical|40|100|10|grid=8}}
{{learnlist/breed9|{{MSP/H|0025|Pikachu}}{{MSP/H|0026|Raichu}}{{MSP/H|0026|Raichu|form=-Alola}}{{MSP/H|0052|Meowth}}{{MSP/H|0052|Meowth|form=-Alola}}{{MSP/H|0053|Persian}}{{MSP/H|0053|Persian|form=-Alola}}{{MSP/H|0335|Zangoose}}{{MSP/H|0336|Seviper}}{{MSP/H|0391|Monferno}}{{MSP/H|0392|Infernape}}{{MSP/H|0434|Stunky}}{{MSP/H|0435|Skuntank}}{{MSP/H|0448|Lucario}}{{MSP/H|0652|Chesnaught}}{{MSP/H|0815|Cinderace}}|Feint|Normal|Physical|30|100|10|grid=8}}
{{learnlist/breed9|{{MSP/H|0051|Dugtrio}}{{MSP/H|0051|Dugtrio|form=-Alola}}{{MSP/H|0052|Meowth|form=-Alola}}{{MSP/H|0053|Persian|form=-Alola}}{{MSP/H|0335|Zangoose}}{{MSP/H|0434|Stunky}}{{MSP/H|0435|Skuntank}}{{MSP/H|0461|Weavile}}{{MSP/H|0571|Zoroark}}{{MSP/H|0908|Meowscarada}}|Night Slash|Dark|Physical|70|100|15|grid=8}}
{{learnlist/breed9|{{MSP/H|0335|Zangoose}}{{MSP/H|0448|Lucario}}{{MSP/H|0619|Mienfoo}}{{MSP/H|0620|Mienshao}}{{MSP/H|0678|Meowstic}}{{MSP/H|0745|Lycanroc}}{{MSP/H|0745|Lycanroc|form=-Dusk}}|Quick Guard|Fighting|Status|—|—|15|grid=8}}
{{learnlist/breed9|{{MSP/H|0053|Persian}}{{MSP/H|0053|Persian|form=-Alola}}{{MSP/H|0335|Zangoose}}{{MSP/H|0655|Delphox}}{{MSP/H|0944|Shroodle}}{{MSP/H|0945|Grafaiai}}|Switcheroo|Dark|Status|—|100|10|grid=8}}
{{learnlist/breedf/9|Sneasel|Fighting|Poison|8}}

====Special moves====
=====Sneasel=====
{{learnlist/eventh/9|Sneasel|Dark|Ice|2}}
{{learnlist/event9|[[Dalizapa Passage|Wild Tera Pokémon]]|Brick Break|Fighting|Physical|75|100|15}}
{{learnlist/event9|[[Dalizapa Passage|Wild Tera Pokémon]]|Ice Shard|Ice|Physical|40|100|30||'''}}
{{learnlist/eventf/9|Sneasel|Dark|Ice|2}}

===={{Trading Card Game}}-only moves====
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; background: #{{tcg darkness color}}; border: 3px solid #{{tcg darkness color dark}}"
|-
! style="background: #{{tcg darkness color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Move
! style="background: #{{tcg darkness color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Card
|-
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybl|5px}}" | {{m|Double Slap}}
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" | [[Sneasel (Diamond & Pearl 100)]]
|}

===Side game data===
====Sneasel====
{{Spindata/Head|type=Dark|type2=Ice}}
{{Spindata/Trozei|col=6|type=Dark|ndex=215|rarity=Common}}
|-
{{Spindata/MDRB|col=6|type=Dark|ndex=215
|body=1
|rate=7.7
|area=Darkness Ridge
|P1=Never let your guard down. That's for your own benefit.
|P2=Tch. My HP's down halfway already?
|P3=The jig is up... I can't put any power behind my claws...
|PL=Yes! I leveled up. Watch me claw with authority!
}}
|-
{{Spindata/MDTDS|col=6|type=Dark|ndex=215
|body=1
|rate=6.4
|IQ=F
}}
|-
{{Spindata/PSMD|col=6|type=Dark|ndex=215
|coset=3
|conto={{p|Dragonite}}, {{p|Duskull}}, {{p|Pansear}}
|recruitment=Rescue
|P1=Don't make me mad if you don't want to taste my claws!
|P2=I won't give up...
}}
|-
{{Spindata/Ranger|col=6|type=Dark
|group=Dark
|assist=Dark
|fieldpower=2
|field=Cut
|loop=3
|MinEXP=42
|MaxEXP=52
|num=199
|browser=Sneasel dashes about to slash with its claws. They have amazing cutting power!
}}
|-
{{Spindata/Ranger SoA|col=6|type=Dark
|group=Dark
|assist=Dark
|field=None
|fieldpower=-
|num=244
|browser=It hurls blocks of ice and sends gusts of dark wind to attack.
}}
|-
{{Spindata/Ranger GS|col=6|type=Dark
|group=Dark
|assist=Dark
|field=Cut
|fieldpower=2
|num=202
|pastnum=130
|browser=It sends gusts of dark wind to attack.
}}
|-
{{Spindata/RumbleBlast|col=6|type=Dark
|att=3
|def=3
|speed=4
}}
|-
{{Spindata/RumbleRush|col=6|type=Dark|ndex=215 f
|walk=1.75
|hp=49
|attack=76
|defense=52
|speed=70
}}
|-
{{Spindata/PokéPark|col=6|type=Dark|ndex=215
|Pad=A pair of naughty Sneasel came to the [[Iceberg Zone]] to see the Ice Tree. Their favorite Attraction is {{DL|Attraction (PokéPark)|Tangrowth's Swing-Along}}.
}}
|-
{{Spindata/PokéPark2|col=6|type=Dark|ndex=215
|strong=[[File:Tepig icon.png|link=Tepig (Pokémon)]]
|pad=He came to explore the warehouse. He is wandering around to find something interesting but hasn't found anything yet.
}}
|-
{{Spindata/Conquest|col=6|type=Dark|ndex=215
|HP=2
|atk=3
|def=2
|spd=5
|range=3
|move=Faint Attack
|ability1=Inner Focus
|ability2=High-rise
|ability3=Melee
|evo=Evolves into {{p|Weavile}} when its Speed is 175 or higher, and its [[link]] is improved while its [[Warrior]] is equipped with a [[Razor Claw]]
|link='''[[Kunoichi]]''' and [[Toshimitsu]]
}}
|-
{{Spindata/Battle Trozei|col=3|type=Dark|ndex=215
|power=2
}}
{{Spindata/Shuffle|col=3|type=Dark|ndex=215|num=234
|min=60
|max=105
|raisemaxlevel=5
|skill=Prank
|skilldesc=Sometimes changes when a foe will next disrupt your play.
|swapper=Flash Mob
}}
|-
{{Spindata/GO|col=6|type=Dark|ndex=215
|hatch=N/A
|buddy=3
|candy=Sneasel
|evocandy=100 + {{bag/GO|Sinnoh Stone}}1
|stamina=146|attack=189|defense=146
|fast={{m|Ice Shard}}, {{m|Feint Attack}}
|special={{m|Avalanche}}, {{m|Ice Punch}}, {{m|Foul Play}}, {{m|Triple Axel}}{{tt|*|From September 1, 2023 onward}}, {{m|Frustration}}[[File:GO Shadow icon.png|24px|link=Shadow Pokémon (GO)|As Shadow Pokémon]], {{m|Return}}[[File:GO Purified icon.png|24px|link=Shadow Pokémon (GO)|As Purified Pokémon]]
}}
|}
{{-}}
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|-
! colspan="5" style="{{roundy|20px}} background:#{{ice color light}};" | '''{{Colorlink|Event Pokémon (GO)|000|Costumes in Pokémon GO}}'''
|-
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border:2px solid #{{ice color dark}}; background:#{{dark color light}};"| [[File:GO215Fashion2021.png|100px]]
|-
| Fashionable costume
|}

====Hisuian Sneasel====
{{Spindata/Head|type=Fighting|type2=Poison}}
{{Spindata/GO|col=6|type=Fighting|ndex=215H
|hatch=7 km
|buddy=3
|candy=Sneasel
|evocandy=100 + [[File:Sunny icon GO.png|20px|Day mode|link=Time]] + [[File:GO Buddy icon.png|20px|link=Buddy Pokémon]] 7 km
|stamina=146
|attack=189
|defense=146
|fast={{m|Poison Jab}}, {{m|Rock Smash}}
|special={{m|Aerial Ace}}, {{m|Close Combat}}, {{m|X-Scissor}}, {{m|Frustration}}[[File:GO Shadow icon.png|24px|link=Shadow Pokémon (GO)|As Shadow Pokémon]], {{m|Return}}[[File:GO Purified icon.png|24px|link=Shadow Pokémon (GO)|As Purified Pokémon]]
}}
|}

===Evolution data===
====Sneasel====
Sneasel [[Evolution|evolve]]s into {{p|Weavile}} when [[level]]ed up while holding a [[Razor Claw]] during the {{DL|Time|Time-based evolutions|night}}. In {{g|Legends: Arceus}}, it evolves into Weavile when exposed to a Razor Claw during the night.
{{Evobox-2
|type1=Dark
|type2=Ice
|pictype=art
|no1=0215
|name1=Sneasel
|type1-1=Dark
|type2-1=Ice
|evo1={{bag/s|Rare Candy|SV}} + {{Bag/s|Razor Claw|SV}} + [[File:Night Icon SV.png|40px|link=Time]] {{color2|000|Level|Level up}} holding {{color2|000|Razor Claw}} at {{color2|000|Time|night}}
|no2=0461
|name2=Weavile
|type1-2=Dark
|type2-2=Ice
}}

====Hisuian Sneasel====
{{rf|Hisuian}} Sneasel evolves into {{p|Sneasler}} when [[level]]ed up while holding a Razor Claw during the day. In {{g|Legends: Arceus}}, it evolves into Sneasler when exposed to a Razor Claw during the day.
{{Evobox-2
|type1=Fighting
|type2=Poison
|pictype=sprite
|no1=0215Sneasel-Hisui
|name1=Sneasel
|form1=Hisuian Form
|type1-1=Fighting
|type2-1=Poison
|evo1={{bag/s|Rare Candy|SV}} + {{Bag/s|Razor Claw|SV}} + [[File:Day Icon SV.png|40px|link=Time]] {{color2|000|Level|Level up}} holding {{color2|000|Razor Claw}} during the {{color2|000|Time|day}}
|no2=0903Sneasler
|name2=Sneasler
|type1-2=Fighting
|type2-2=Poison}}

===Sprites===
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==In the anime==
[[File:Sneasel anime.png|thumb|250px|Sneasel in the {{pkmn|anime}}]]
===Major appearances===
====[[Harrison's Sneasel]]====
Sneasel made its main series debut in ''[[EP265|Pop Goes The Sneasel]]'', where one was blocking access to the Flame of {{p|Ho-Oh}}. {{jo|Harrison}} {{pkmn2|caught}} it and later used it in his [[Silver Conference]] {{pkmn|battle}} against {{Ash}}. It defeated {{AP|Pikachu}} and then lost to {{AP|Totodile}}.

====Other====
Sneasel debuted in ''[[M04|Celebi: The Voice of the Forest]]'', under the ownership of the [[Iron-Masked Marauder]]. He used it, along with a {{p|Scizor}}, to retrieve {{OBP|Celebi|M04}}.

In ''[[AG141|Hail to the Chef]]'', [[Rhoda]]'s Sneasel is her sous-chef. It took a dislike to {{MTR}} and deliberately made his food taste terrible.

In ''[[AG185|Duels of the Jungle]]'', a female Sneasel tried to stop a feud between two {{p|Weavile}}.

In ''[[DP127|Sliding Into Seventh!]]'', [[Candice]] used a Sneasel in her [[Gym]] battle against Ash. It battled {{AP|Grotle}} and lost despite being at a type advantage.

{{tc|Team Flare Grunt}}s used multiple Sneasel in ''[[XY094|From A to Z!]]'', ''[[XY107|An Explosive Operation!]]'', and ''[[XY134|The Right Hero for the Right Job!]]''.

In ''[[SM060|Getting a Jump on the Competition!]]'', a Sneasel battled and lost to [[Hala]]'s {{p|Crabrawler}}. Its defeat triggered Crabrawler's evolution into a {{p|Crabominable}}.

In ''[[M21|The Power of Us]]'', a [[Pokémon hunters (M21)|Pokémon hunter]]'s Sneasel and another hunter's {{p|Houndoom}} searched for {{OBP|Zeraora|M21}}, but targeted a {{p|Teddiursa}} and {{p|Ditto}} instead. This forced Zeraora and soon {{OBP|Ash Ketchum|M20|Ash}} and his friends to intervene, eventually leaving Sneasel defeated.

===Minor appearances===
In ''[[AG015|Gonna Rule The School!]]'', the [[Pokémon Trainers' School]] lent a Sneasel to the school's underage students for use in lessons.

In ''[[AG159|Off the Unbeaten Path]]'', a Trainer's Sneasel participated in the [[Pokémon Orienteering]] competition.

A {{pkmn|Coordinator}}'s Sneasel appeared in ''[[DP027|Settling a Not-So-Old Score!]]''.

A Sneasel appeared in ''[[DP091|One Team, Two Team, Red Team, Blue Team!]]''.

In ''[[XY041|Foggy Pokémon Orienteering!]]'' and ''[[XY042|Battling Into the Hall of Fame!]]'', a Trainer's Sneasel attended the [[Pokémon Summer Camp]].

In ''[[XY080|Performing with Fiery Charm!]]'', a {{pkmn|Performer}}'s Sneasel competed in the {{to|Dendemille}} {{pkmn|Showcase}}. In ''[[XY091|A Performance Pop Quiz!]]'', it competed in the {{ci|Anistar}} Showcase. In ''[[XY105|Party Dancecapades!]]'' it attended [[Monsieur Pierre]]'s dance party. In ''[[XY112|Master Class is in Session!]]'', it competed in the [[Gloire City]] Master Class Showcase but was eliminated. Afterwards, Sneasel spectated the rest of the Showcase in ''[[XY113|Performing a Pathway to the Future!]]''.

A Trainer's Sneasel appeared in ''[[SM060|Getting a Jump on the Competition!]]''.

In ''[[SM129|Battle Royal 151!]]'', a Trainer's Sneasel competed in the [[Battle Royal]] preliminary round of the [[Manalo Conference]] but ended up losing.

A Sneasel appeared in ''[[JN004|Settling the Scorbunny!]]''.

A Trainer's Sneasel appeared in ''[[JN008|The Sinnoh Iceberg Race!]]''.

A Trainer's Sneasel appeared in ''[[M23|Secrets of the Jungle]]''.

A Sneasel appeared in [[HZ040]] at [[Manya's house]].

===Pokédex entries===
{{Animedexheader|Johto}}
{{Animedexbody|EP265|Sneasel|Ash's Pokédex|Sneasel, the Sharp Claw Pokémon. Sneasel can extend or retract its claws instantly during attack.}}
{{Animedexfooter/Pokémon|Johto}}

==In the manga==
[[File:Silver Sneasel.png|thumb|200px|Sneasel in [[Pokémon Adventures]]]]
[[File:Black Sneasel Golden Boys.png|thumb|left|200px|Sneasel in [[Pokémon Gold & Silver: The Golden Boys]]]]
===Movie adaptations===
Two Sneasel appeared in [[ICYR2]].

===Pokémon + Nobunaga's Ambition ~ Ranse's Color Picture Scroll ~===
[[Kunoichi]] was seen with a Sneasel.

===Pokémon Adventures===
{{main|Silver's Sneasel}}
Sneasel's most predominant role is as one of {{adv|Silver}}'s Pokémon. He first appeared in ''[[PS092|Who Gives a Hoothoot?]]''. It is his first Pokémon as he was the Pokémon that he used during his {{pkmn|training}} under the [[Masked Man]], and the only one seen with him in flashbacks of his childhood prior to being kidnapped. He is a dexterous and crafty fighter that fully utilizes his speed and attacks of both the {{t|Dark}} type and the {{t|Ice}} type. After many years, he evolved into a {{p|Weavile}} in [[Lance]]'s hidden [[Whirl Islands]] chamber.

In ''[[PS276|My, My, My Mimic]]'', a Sneasel was captured by [[Carr]], who wanted to ambush {{adv|Red}} and {{adv|Blue}}. However, it is frozen and beaten by the newly arrived [[Lorelei]].

Two Sneasel appeared in ''[[PS386|Disagreeable Graveler]]''.

In ''[[PS387|Striking Out Snover]]'', three {{pkmn2|wild}} Sneasel were near [[Snowpoint City]], with some of them being cared by [[Candice]].

A Sneasel appeared in ''[[PS388|To and Fro with Froslass]]''.

Multiple Sneasel appeared in ''[[PS484|All About Arceus III]]''.

A {{tc|Team Plasma Grunt}}'s Sneasel appeared in ''[[PS547|The Final Battle: Crushed Ambition]]''.

Two Sneasel belonging to {{tc|Worker}}s appeared in [[PS611]]. They reappeared in a flashback in [[PS615]].

Multiple Sneasel appeared in the {{MangaArc|Sun, Moon, Ultra Sun & Ultra Moon}}, where it was seen on [[Mount Lanakila]].

===Pokémon Battrio: Aim to be Battrio Master!===
[[Ryū Tendō|Ryū]] owns a Sneasel.

===Pokémon Gold & Silver: The Golden Boys===
Sneasel is {{GnB|Black}}'s main Pokémon in [[Pokémon Gold & Silver: The Golden Boys]].

===Pokémon Gotta Catch 'Em All===
A Sneasel appeared in [[GDZ47]], under the ownership of a {{OBP|thief|GDZ47}}.

[[Asuka and Maya|Asuka]] is revealed to have a Sneasel, which first appeared in [[GDZ59]].

A Sneasel appeared in [[GDZ67]], under the ownership of a {{OBP|monk|GDZ}}.

[[Shu]] {{pkmn2|caught}} a Sneasel, as seen in [[GDZ73]].

===Pokémon + Nobunaga's Ambition ~ Ranse's Color Picture Scroll ~===
A Sneasel appeared in ''[[PNA4|The Scarlet Scroll: Kunoichi's Situation]]'', under the ownership of [[Kunoichi]].

==In the TCG==
{{main|Sneasel (TCG)}}

==Other appearances==
==={{DetPikMov}}===
Multiple Sneasel appeared in {{DetPikMov}}.

==Trivia==
[[File:Cats by Kino Takahashi.png|right|thumb|Sneasel in Galarian Meowth merchandise by [[Kino Takahashi]].]]
* Sneasel is one of fourteen {{OBP|Pokémon|species}} that one could collect [[foreign Pokédex entries]] for in {{game|Diamond and Pearl|s}}.
* Sneasel can be seen as a counterpart to {{p|Gligar}}. Both of them have two [[type]]s which cause them to have a 4× [[Type#Type effectiveness|weakness]] to another type, have the same [[base stat]] total, evolve into Pokémon that were introduced in [[Generation IV]] ({{p|Weavile}} and {{p|Gliscor}}), and do so by leveling up at night while holding an [[Evolution item]] whose name includes the word ''razor'' ([[Razor Claw]] and [[Razor Fang]]).
* Sneasel has the highest base {{stat|Speed}} stat of all Pokémon that are capable of evolving.
* Despite Sneasel being based on the ''kamaitachi'', which has the same Japanese name as {{m|Razor Wind}}, Sneasel cannot learn this move.
* Sneasel is the only Pokémon to have a [[gender difference]] in both its standard form and [[regional form]].
** Furthermore, Hisuan Sneasel is the only regional form to have gender differences.
* Sneasel is the only dual-type Pokémon to have a dual-type regional form that doesn't share either of its types.
* Sneasel is the only Pokémon with a Hisuian form to have its original form available in any capacity in [[Pokémon Legends: Arceus]].
* Hisuian Sneasel and {{p|Sneasler|its evolution}} were designed by [[Hitoshi Ariga]].<ref>[https://twitter.com/ariga_megamix/status/1493600999038021632 Tweet by ありがひとし/ArigaHitoshi (@ariga_megamix).] Posted on February 16, 2022.</ref>
* In [[Pokémon Legends: Arceus]]'s internal code, Hisuian Sneasel's Hidden Ability is {{a|Poison Touch}} instead of {{a|Pickpocket}}.
* Sneasel has been depicted with three variants in color. In {{game|Gold and Silver|s}}, Sneasel had a bronze coloration while its tail feathers were a dark cyan; while in [[Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness]], Sneasel had a light purple body. The third color variant is its current bluish black color which has been consistently depicted in the main series games from {{game|Crystal}} onwards.
* Johtonian Sneasel and its evolved form, Weavile, are the only {{DL|List of Pokémon by color|black}} {{type|Ice}} Pokémon.

===Origin===
Sneasel may be based on the ''{{wp|kamaitachi}}'', a type of ''{{wp|yōkai}}'' often represented as weasel demons with sickles on their front legs and sometimes understood as the cause of mysterious cuts on the skin, especially in cold weather. It also resembles {{wp|black cats}}. It may also draw inspiration from the {{wp|Viverridae|viverrids}}, {{wp|weasel}}-like mammals with half-retractable claws that are sometimes mistaken for cats; its "feathers" perhaps represent the dorsal crest seen on some species. These {{wp|feather}}s could also represent the wind itself, the key element of kamaitachi, as feathers are often associated with the wind, because they allow birds to move in the air and create gusts. Its eye markings are similar to that of ones in Egyptian style, possibly {{wp|Eye of Horus|Horus}}'s.

====Name origin====
Sneasel is a combination of ''sneaky'' and ''weasel''. It may also derive from ''sneeze'', an action associated with having a cold or being cold, or ''sneesl'' (Scots for ''to begin to rain or snow'') — both of which refer to its Ice type.

Nyula may be a combination of 潜入 ''sennyū'' (sneaking in) and 鼬 ''yū'' (weasel, an alternate reading of ''itachi''). Alternatively, it may be a combination of ''new'', ニャー ''nya'' (the sound a cat makes), and 野良 ''nora'' (stray, as in a stray cat, as strays are usually violent and tricky).

==In other languages==
{{Other languages|type=Dark|type2=Ice
|ja=ニューラ ''Nyula''|jameaning=From {{tt|潜入 ''sennyū''|sneaking in}}, {{tt|ニャー ''nya''|meow}}, {{tt|鼬 ''yū''|weasel}}, ''new'', and {{tt|野良 ''nora''|stray}}
|fr=Farfuret|frmeaning=From ''{{wp|Farfadet|farfadet}}'' and ''{{tt|furet|ferret}}''
|es=Sneasel|esmeaning=Same as English name
|de=Sniebel|demeaning=From its English name and ''{{tt|Dieb|thief}}''
|it=Sneasel|itmeaning=Same as English name
|ko=포푸니 ''Popuni''|komeaning=From {{tt|폭풍 (暴風) ''pokpung''|storm}} and {{tt|스라소니 ''seurasoni''|lynx}}
|zh_cmn=狃拉 ''Niǔlā''|zh_cmnmeaning=Transcription of Japanese name. Contains {{tt|狃 ''niǔ''|to covet}}
|zh_yue=狃拉 ''Náulāai''|zh_yuemeaning=Mandarin-based transcription of Japanese name. Contains {{tt|狃 ''náu''|to covet}}
|he=סניזל ''Snizel''|hemeaning=Transcription of English name
|hi=चोरीला ''Chorila''|himeaning=From {{tt|चोरी ''chori''|theft}} or {{tt|चोर ''chor''|thief}}
|ru=Снизел ''Snizel''|rumeaning=Transcription of English name
|th=นิวลา ''Niola''|thmeaning=Transcription of Japanese name
}}
 

==Related articles==
* [[Silver's Sneasel]]
* [[Harrison's Sneasel]]
* [[Regional form]]

==References==
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==External links==
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Talk:Triage (Ability)

2023-05-01T22:56:17Z

PokeMaster99999: /* Is Bitter Blade affected by Triage? */ new section

==Trivia==
<nowiki> *In a Polish trailer for Sun and Moon Triage is mistakenly spelled Traige.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uM9J6rVpBD0</ref> </nowiki>

Would this be considered notable for trivia? --[[User:Raltseye|Raltseye]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 19:18, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

== List the Affected Moves ==

Shouldn't there be a list of the moves that the Triage Ability affects? Like how it is on the page for Iron Fist? ([[User:Yater31|Yater31]] ([[User talk:Yater31|talk]]) 03:26, 16 December 2016 (UTC))

== Researched moves ==

Pollen Puff, Grassy Terrain and HP restoring Z-moves are unaffected. Present is unaffected whether it deals damage or heals the target. Funnily enough, Healing Wish seems to be prioritized, and I assume so would be Lunar Dance, but I haven't tested that one. Tested wtíth a friend, I can link Battle Videos if needed. [[User:KingisNitro|KingisNitro]] ([[User talk:KingisNitro|talk]]) 16:09, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
:Thanks, I've added that. In the future, you can just add information like that yourself (preferably with details in your edit summary). [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 16:41, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

== Is Bitter Blade affected by Triage? ==

Bitter Blade is a Gen 9 Fire-type move that drains HP, like Drain Punch and Giga Drain - and those two moves are affected by Triage.
Is Bitter Blade affected similarly, gaining increased priority?

If it is, then it should be added to the list of moves that are affected but can't be learned by Comfey; if it isn't then it should be a Trivia dot point (and it'd show Game Freak forgot about this ability).
--[[User:PokeMaster99999|PokeMaster99999]] ([[User talk:PokeMaster99999|talk]]) 22:56, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

Talk:Wild Area

2022-01-13T03:05:24Z

PokeMaster99999:

:I don't think that I've found all Pokémon Breeder Chloe's locations yet.
*[[Rolling Fields]]
**At the cliff, East [[Meetup Spot]], facing [[South Lake Miloch]].
**At the tree next to the ramp to [[South Lake Miloch]].
*[[Giant's Seat]]
**At the small tree, Southeast of the giant rock.
*[[Axew's Eye]]
**At the tree.
*[[East Lake Axewell]]
**At the first tree, West from [[Motostoke]]'s entrance.
**At the second buttress, East from [[Motostoke]]'s entrance.
*[[Motostoke Riverbank]]
**At the tree, West of the lake.
*[[Bridge Field]]
**At the tree, Northwest of the lake.
**At the tree, Northeast of [[Motostoke]].
**At the third pillar of {{rt|5|Galar}} bridge from the West.
*[[Stony Wilderness]]
**At the first stone arch from the West.
*[[Giant's Mirror]]
**At the pine tree, North of the lake.
*[[Dusty Bowl]]
**At the furthest rock, in the Northeast.
*[[Giant's Cap]]
**At the tree, in the South.
*[[Lake of Outrage]]
**Southeast of the giant rock.
*[[Hammerlocke Hills]]
**At the cliff, in front of [[Hammerlocke]]'s entrance
--[[User:Maximoss|Maximoss]] ([[User talk:Maximoss|talk]]) 01:32, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
:I've been trying to get at this from the ROM and I think I know the full list now. Bolded ones are missing from your list above. 2 in Rolling Fields, 2 in East Lake Axewell, 1 in Axew's Eye, 1 in Giant's Seat, 1 in '''Motostoke Riverbank''', 3 in Bridge Field, 1 in Stony Wilderness, 2 in '''Giant's Mirror''', and 1 each in Hammerlocke Hills, '''Giant's Cap''', and Lake of Outrage.
:I do have screenshots I took a while ago of these places too; now I can also say that I'm pretty sure there's nowhere else. But one of the Giant's Mirror ones may be the Dusty Bowl one. (There's likewise a case where the ROM lists [[Watchtower Ruins]]' White Herb in Dappled Grove's info, and in-game it's a little close but still plainly "in" Watchtower Ruins.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:49, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
:Thanks, [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]]. I've managed to find them all.--[[User:Maximoss|Maximoss]] ([[User talk:Maximoss|talk]]) 05:50, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
::Is it possible to get Chloe to respawn without battling her? --[[User:PokeMaster99999|PokeMaster99999]] ([[User talk:PokeMaster99999|talk]]) 03:05, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

Talk:Max Lure

2021-12-17T02:12:53Z

PokeMaster99999: Created page with "How do Lures work? I'm in the basement of Mt. Moon, trying to find an Onix (1% chance), and I've got a Lure applied - and while I've seen a bunch of Clefable (also a 1% chance..."

How do Lures work? I'm in the basement of Mt. Moon, trying to find an Onix (1% chance), and I've got a Lure applied - and while I've seen a bunch of Clefable (also a 1% chance) and even a couple Chansey ("rare spawn", whatever that means), I've not seen a single Onix yet.
Just plenty of Zubat, Geodude and Clefairy irritants, with the occasional Chansey and Paras, so the Lure doesn't seem to affect Onix spawns, annoyingly. --[[User:PokeMaster99999|PokeMaster99999]] ([[User talk:PokeMaster99999|talk]]) 02:12, 17 December 2021 (UTC)

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2021-11-18T19:17:53Z

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== BDSP: No EXP Share toggle and single-use TMs ==

WHY.

Did the devs not see the backlash Game Freak got for removing the EXP Share from LGPE and Sw/Sh? The mods made specifically to remove shared EXP? How it completely ruins any kind of challenge whatsoever due to it inevitably leading to being overlevelled? Arceus-damnit.

And single-use TMs...ugh. TRs were bad enough in Sw/Sh, but at least we still had infinite-use TMs, and Unova, Kalos, Hoenn and Alola all had that superior advancement. Why regress to a worse state? What benefit does single-use provide that infinite-use does not? There was a sense of achievement when you finally got all 95-100 TMs, not to mention how handy it was to be able to teach Rock Tomb to everyone; neither of which applies with single-use Machines.

Do BDSP at least have every move, including Hidden Power and Return and stuff? Because so far that's two good reasons to ''not'' buy either game. [[User:PokeMaster99999|PokeMaster99999]] ([[User talk:PokeMaster99999|talk]]) 19:17, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

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== BDSP: No EXP Share toggle and single-use TMs ==

WHY.

Did the devs not see the backlash Game Freak got for removing the EXP Share from LGPE and Sw/Sh? The mods made specifically to remove shared EXP? How it completely ruins any kind of challenge whatsoever due to it inevitably leading to being overlevelled? Arceus-damnit.
And single-use TMs...ugh. TRs were bad enough in Sw/Sh, but at least we still had infinite-use TMs, and Unova, Kalos, Hoenn and Alola all had that superior advancement. Why regress to a worse state? What benefit does single-use provide that infinite-use does not? There was a sense of achievement when you finally got all 95-100 TMs, not to mention how handy it was to be able to teach Rock Tomb to everyone; neither of which applies with single-use Machines.

Do BDSP at least have every move, including Hidden Power and Return and stuff? Because so far that's two good reasons to ''not'' buy either game. [[User:PokeMaster99999|PokeMaster99999]] ([[User talk:PokeMaster99999|talk]]) 19:17, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

Talk:Lumiose City

2021-10-01T22:23:18Z

PokeMaster99999: /* Trainer locations */

==Name Similarities to Illumise==
Should it be noted that Lumiose City's French name, Illumis; is almost the same as [[Illumise]]? [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 03:40, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

==Pikachu==
Minor speculation but i can't help but notice the pikachu in the picture. Either this is just because it's the franchise mascot or pokemon from gens 1 to 5 will be in Kalos unlike Unova's first two games. --[[User:Bomyne|Bomyne]] ([[User talk:Bomyne|talk]]) 11:43, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
:[[a:File:XY Pokedex.png|We know]] that Zigzagoon (and Linoone) will be in the Kalos Pokédex. However, Pikachu might just make a cameo, like it did in [[Castelia City]] and like Shroomish did in [[Hearthome City]].--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 11:57, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
:: In the announcement trailer back in Jan where Pikachu is on the tower, they mention that favorite old Pokémon would make an appearance, and they showed an encounter with a wild Pikachu.
:: Also, while this part is speculation on my own behalf; with the emphasis on light for this city, the tower's tip might light up. It is also likely, if it does light up, it does so possibly with the aid of a (Electric-Type) Pokémon much in the same way that the lighthouse in Olivine City (did I get the right city, been a long time since I played G&S.) Plus Pikachu was shown using its electricity on top of the tower in the announcement trailer. I wouldn't be surprise if a whole slew of Electric-Type Pokémon could be found in and near Lumiose City. But, we'll have to wait and see. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 21:18, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
:::Well it would go with the name (Luminose=Light=Electricity=Electric Pokemon). And yes Yamitora the city you are thinking of is Olivine City. [[User:Nuckles123|Nuckles123]] ([[User talk:Nuckles123|talk]]) 21:33, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

==Tourism==
Why does this page sound like it has been taken from a travel book all of a sudden? Doesn't sound professional. [[User:Nuckles123|Nuckles123]] ([[User talk:Nuckles123|talk]]) 00:20, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
: I shortened and dulled it down. I don't see how it was Touristy. Also thanks ‎ArcToraphim for the fix. I keep forgetting to do that when linking Pokémon names to their articles. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 01:40, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
:: It sounded touristy to me because of the mention to shopping and fine dining but it reads more professional now. Also, for creating Pokemon templates, do {{p|Name of Pokemon} } <--(but without this extra space). [[User:Nuckles123|Nuckles123]] ([[User talk:Nuckles123|talk]]) 02:21, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

==Lumiose City Gym==
In the 3rd Pokémon X and Y trailer, at 0:34, there is an image of the tower in the centre of the city. At the entrance of the tower is the same symbol that is in front of the Santalune City Gym, in the 2nd trailer, at 0:42. This symbol is the Gym symbol from Unova, so it is safe to assume that Lumiose City also has a Gym. From Kalos' map, Lumiose City is the 3rd Location to visit, after Vaniville and Santalune, so it could be the 2nd Gym, although it could act like Petalburg or Viridian and have the Gym challenged later on. Since Lumiose City is based on Paris, the City of Lights, then the Gym type could be Electric or Fairy (there probably will be some sort of Fairy Gym/Elite Four Member somewhere in Kalos), but this is very speculative. [[User:Xolotl|Xolotl]] ([[User talk:Xolotl|talk]]) 10:21, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
:I too, noticed this in the trailer. The gym logo is also visible in a screenshot for Pokémon X and Y (I think there is a YouTube video pointing this out.), so I would think that it is fair to say that it is not just an animé variation. There have however been gyms in the animé that have not appeared in games such as those of the [[Orange Archipelago]], and unofficial gyms, including a fake gym set up by [[Team Rocket]], but I would think it unusual to have an unofficial gym ''in-game''. Of course the ''typing'' of the gym is completely speculative, however, I think that the fact that there ''is'' a Lumiose Gym is pretty conclusive.--[[User:ShinyPatch|ShinyPatch]] ([[User talk:ShinyPatch|talk]]) 18:19, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
::The odds are pretty high that it has an actual Gym, but I have to point out that it's not unprecedented to have an unofficial Gym in-game — see the [[Fighting Dojo]] in Saffron City. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 18:26, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

== Korean name for Lumiose City ==

Its Korean name is 미스시티 ''Miseu {{tt|Siti|City}}''.
* I suspect it's based on the English word "myth", although that would be transliterated as 미쓰. Alternatively, 미스 could be "Miss" (whether "female tiitle" or "opposite of hit"), but I have my doubts. I'll have to get back to this. -- [[User:Nick15|Nick15]] ([[User talk:Nick15|talk]]) 23:01, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

== Plants and Lights? ==

How come all of the other cities and towns in Kalos so far are named after plants, yet Lumiose city is named after Paris' nickname 'the city of lights'? Shouldn't it be added to the trivia that Lumiose city is the only one not named after a plant? [[User:Ziggyangelo88|Ziggyangelo88]] ([[User talk:Ziggyangelo88|talk]]) 07:47, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
:We don't know all the cities, so we don't know yet whether another will be not named after a plant. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 07:48, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

==Prism Tower==
It should be worth noted that the Eiffel-Tower like thing is called Prism Tower. [[User:Dinodestroyer|Dinodestroyer]] ([[User talk:Dinodestroyer|talk]]) 11:07, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

==The second story of one of the north buildings==
I went there and something... odd happened. Im not even sure what it was. A very strange NPC is all i can say without spoiling. You'd know it if you saw it. well whatever it was, its clearly worth mentioning. If anyone has a clue what this thing was or what it meant, that should probably be included in the article somewhere. I think it was the building with the Dojo/Dance school on top, with the 2nd floor totally empty. I can't be sure because it only happened the one time and there are no signs left behind.

So yeah. That. Anyone know what that was and can put it on the page? [[User:PowerPlantRaichu|PowerPlantRaichu]] ([[User talk:PowerPlantRaichu|talk]]) 03:07, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
:No. You aren't the one. Yes, the dojo was on top. Given the servers and computers in the room, I surmise that it could be Game Freak, but the NPC makes me think event possibly. [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] ([[User talk:TruePikachu|talk]]) 09:52, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

==Looker Bureau==
Can somebody put something explaining this? I would, but I do not have the time. It is after you go to Anistar City and receive the Mega Ring upgrade. I would appreciate it, and I will help where I can.--[[User:Darkmaster|Darkmaster]] ([[User talk:Darkmaster|talk]]) 03:40, 26 October 2013 (UTC) As I said, I would do it all, but I have neither the time or the experience to do it. {{unsigned|Darkmaster}}

== On the glitches thing shall we put about this ghost girl? ==

Apparently there's this ghost girl thing which people are talking about. Is this a glitch if so put it on the glitches. I'm not sure if it's a reference to Unova about that girl in the Strange House or just a glitch. If anyone does know can someone either add it in the glitches or make note of it in the trivia section?--[[User:Hydreigonfan1|Hydreigonfan1]] ([[User talk:Hydreigonfan1|talk]]) 18:27, 27 October 2013 (UTC)
:It's pretty clear to me that it's not a glitch. It's just supposed to be a creepy thing they put into the game. --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 18:29, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

:: they put a ghost (or a few) in each game, so far i can remember DPP's house where u can find rotom, there's 2 ghosts there, also the girl in the bridge and in the abandoned house in BWB2B2 --[[User:Cabasho|Cabasho]] 10:06 11 November 2013 (-5 GMT)

== Sushi High Roller requirements ==

Can anyone help verify the requirements to get into Sushi High Roller? I know the only requirement isn't being the Champion, but I know it is one since the NPC that lets you in mentions it. I know there is something else since after becoming Champion, I did a bunch of style stuff and the Looker side quests and got access after that. Someone updated it to say the Looker sidequests are the other prereq, but that seems weird to me. Don't those also increase your style by completing them? Unfortunately, I don't know for a fact if completing that was what gave me access or not. [[User:Linkmastr001|Linkmastr001]] ([[User talk:Linkmastr001|talk]]) 21:39, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

Actually, I had a thought. One thing I did before doing this restaurant was participate in each of the other restaurants, perhaps that is the other requirement? [[User:Linkmastr001|Linkmastr001]] ([[User talk:Linkmastr001|talk]]) 01:48, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

I did that and beat the Elite Four, anyone else had that experience? -[[User:IVsaur|EVsandIVsaurs]] 01:56, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
:"The player needs to have become the Champion, completed the side quest, and have gotten his or her style up in the city."
:So is this meant to refer to the Looker sidequests? Because "the side quest" is completely unclear and I have no idea what I'm supposed to do. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 17:13, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

==Stone Emporium==
Does anyone know whether or not this shop gets more than just Leaf, Fire and Water Stones post game?--[[User:Ditto51|Tom]] ([[User_Talk:Ditto51|My Talk Page]]) 10:16, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
:Doesn't seem to do so. I think that's it unless you get more for becoming a full celebrity in Lumiose. I'm getting close to that stage (Venusarite is only 70,000, once it gets to 10,000 I will know). ☆[[User:Solar Dragon|The]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|Solar]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|Dragon]]☆ 10:23, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

==Sushi High Roller prize==
Has anyone completed a course? If so, what did you get? Apparently it's Big Nuggets, but the quantities are still undetermined on Bulbapedia. -- [[User:Pringles|Pringles]] 01:06, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

havent done it myself but the it says it is imposible to turn out profit from this restaurant... if the info presented here is correct, then its true, but the loss can be lowered to 191760 if using a double money item during the battles (such as an amulet coin). -- [[User:Cabasho|Cabasho]] 10:03 11 November 2013 (-5 GMT)
:Wait... 30k * 25 = 750k; 750k->500k... so what. [[User:Uploader|Uploader]] ([[User talk:Uploader|talk]]) 17:55, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
::Just checked on this, 30,000 for each Big Nugget and a perfect is 25 of them. You make profit since you get over $500,000 when selling... Not sure how you would be ''losing'' profit here. Anyone mind fixing up that trivia error? ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 04:11, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Wrong. In X/Y, you can sell the Big Nuggets for only 10,000 (not 30,000 like in Gen V). Therefore, you do NOT make profit in Sushi High Roller. Here's my result, using Amulet Coin + Prize Money Power lv 2, Triple Battle course.

'''1,454,404''' (my amount of money prior to selecting a course)
-450,000 (entrance cost)

1,004,404 (my amount of money prior to battling)
+18,720
+18,720
+18,720
+18,720
+41,600
+250,000 (10,000 x 25)

I ends up with '''1,370,884''' which means '''a loss'''.
So yeah, '''no''' profit, at least with PMP lv 2. I haven't try PMP lv 3. But if even with Amulet Coin and PMP lv 2 I still get a loss, that clearly means without Amulet Coin and PMP, the loss will be even greater....and even if using PMP lv 3 lets us receive some profit, it's still bad, as you must use the strongest boost just to receive a small amount of profit. Sushi High Roller? More like Sushi High ''Troll''er.[[User:Magnezone|Magnezone]] ([[User talk:Magnezone|talk]]) 01:09, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

:Then let me make a suggestion as to determine this, use Prize Money Power Level 3 + Luck Incense/Amulet Coin(Doesn't seem to stack) + {{m|Happy Hour}}. If that doesn't work, then we will need to say that the only way to make a profit is to use Pay Day to be able to make a profit. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 01:37, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
:: Extrapolating the results from your data.

-450,000 (entrance cost)
+ 56,160 (9,360 is assumed to be the amount with the Amulet Coin, *3 with PMP 3, *2 with Happy Hour)
+ 56,160
+ 56,160
+ 56,160
+ 124,800 (20,800 is assumed to be the amount with the Amulet Coin, *3 with PMP 3, *2 with Happy Hour)
+ 250,000 (250,000 is the normal sell value of 25 Big Nuggets.)
That means the balance should become a net gain of 149,440. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 18:44, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

==Splitting up the article==
Given the current size of the article, and that it's still marked "incomplete," it would probably be a good idea to start giving certain sections their own articles. {{redlink|Hotel Richissime}} should probably be first, as it's currently the most well-developed section. I'm also planning, when I get the time, to transcribe all of the Lumiose Museum audio guides and use them in making a page for that building as well. Any objections or suggestions for further splitting? —[[User:Minimiscience|Minimiscience]] ([[User talk:Minimiscience|talk]]) 00:36, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
:The restaurants use a fair amount of templates, which makes them a pretty good candidate to split off if we're trying to do it for size purposes. I agree that Hotel Richissime can be split off; the Lumiose Museum stuff sounds like it'd be more quote-heavy than content-heavy, so it might be suited more as a subpage of this article than its own article, though that's probably something for a staff member to decide. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 00:41, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
::Lumiose Museum would have a lot of quotes, though (there are 20-30 paintings in it), and some of the paintings appear to be art from previous games that's already on the Archives, so I'd imagine we'd want to include those in the Museum's section/article, making it longer and more article-worthy. —[[User:Minimiscience|Minimiscience]] ([[User talk:Minimiscience|talk]]) 00:51, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
:::Yeah, I'd say this article could certainly use splitting up. The Hotel Richissime and Lumiose Museum getting their own pages would work. Restaurants maybe. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 03:31, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

[[Hotel Richissime]] is now a separate article. —[[User:Minimiscience|Minimiscience]] ([[User talk:Minimiscience|talk]]) 04:19, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

[[Lumiose Museum]] is now an article. The formatting could probably use some work. —[[User:Minimiscience|Minimiscience]] ([[User talk:Minimiscience|talk]]) 09:31, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

==Pokemon Centers==
Should it be noted that Lumiose City is the first and only city in the entire Pokemon World to have more than one Pokemon Center within the city? I'm a bit surprised nobody has brought this up. {{unsigned|Noah★|17:38, 27 December 2013 (UTC)}}
:That's because it's not. [[Ever Grande City]] was the first. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 17:43, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

== Rare Soda and Ultra Rare Soda Evoltuion ==

Ok, so I bought an Ultra Rare Soda (50,000 pokedollars), gave it to my lv 34 Servine which increased its level to lv 39, and she did not evolve. Is this possibly only Ultra Rare Soda, or does also raise level but does not invoke evolution?[[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 06:50, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

== Restaurants ==

Has anyone really figured out how the restaurants are scored aside from number of turns and Pokémon fainted? For some reason, I actually got 24 Balm Mushrooms in Le Wow when I completed the entire Double Battle course in 10 turns and no faints, but actually got a ''smaller'' reward (around 19-21) when I completed the entire thing in one turn per battle. From what I've seen, at least, you seem to get a better reward for getting closer to the designated turn count over taken the least possible amount of turns. This really doesn't seem right and I'm starting to think that there is more to the scoring. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy (瀬藤健二)]] ([[User talk:Schiffy|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|Contribs]]) 22:01,1/13/2014 (UTC)
:I don't see what you're having an issue with... You're not supposed to go for the least possible amount of turns, since the point is to hit the target number of turns ''exactly''. Going over ''or'' under will detract from the reward, and I think the article's pretty clear about that. Unless I've misunderstood your question? [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 03:52, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
::"For each faint or turn difference, the player will receive one less of the reward item." - Ignore me, I'm stupid and I can't read. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy (瀬藤健二)]] ([[User talk:Schiffy|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|Contribs]]) 05:16,1/14/2014 (UTC)

==Discount Coupon==
So, from what I gathered from the PGL and my game, the Discount Coupon seems to have the following properties:
:#They cost zero Poké Miles
:#They can be used one time at {{tt|''any'' Boutique|it's mentioned on this page already, hence why I'm using this talk page}} (seemingly on one item, but that also might be one full transaction); and give you 50% off
:#They can be sold to a Poké Mart for {{PD}}10
:#They can only be obtained once
:#They go in the main Items slot
:#They have the following description: "This special coupon allows you to buy items at a discount when you are shopping at a boutique."
I can't seem to find a page of (non key) items introduced in Gen VI if there is one, so I'm leaving the information here in hopes of finding said page. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy (瀬藤健二)]] ([[User talk:Schiffy|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|Contribs]]) 19:52,1/15/2014 (UTC)
:Wouldn't it fit best in [[exchangeable item]]s? It's only function is to be exchanged after all. And I recall the Bulbanews article saying you could buy multiple items. [[User:Glik|Glik]] ([[User talk:Glik|talk]]) 21:10, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
::Well, to start off, I set it up [[Bulbapedia:Sandbox#Discount Coupon|here]], since there's still a few things missing, for sure. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy (瀬藤健二)]] ([[User talk:Schiffy|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|Contribs]]) 23:01,1/15/2014 (UTC)

== Soft Resetting Changes the Menu in the Juice Shoppe ==

So, I discovered soft resetting changes the Juice Shoppe Menu to some degree under certain circumstances.

I was leveling up two 5IV Charmander (one Impish, one Careful) to see which had the best Attack of the two (Only HP, Def, Sp.Atk, Sp. Def and Speed are 31IV)

Well I used rare candies while in Kiloude City to get them the first one (Impish) to level 21, then I flew to Lumiose City to see if the Juice Shoppe was selling Rare or Ultra Rare Soda. I know its a gamble, but it paid of, they were selling Rare Soda for 20k. So that got it to level 23.

I soft reset, repeated the rare candies and then flew from Kiloude to Lumiose and when I got to the Juice Shoppe, the Rare Soda was now 50k Ultra Rare Soda, which was surprising. So I was able to get the Careful Charmander to level 26 instead of lv 23 like I had the Impish one.

I have saved and then soft reset before inside the shoppe and the menu stayed the same. This time however I had saved in Kiloude and flew back to the Juice Shoppe. If I were to guess, I would assume that the menu changes based on similar math that a roaming Pokémon's route changes. This needs further investigation, but if proven to some degree, would soft resetting to change the menu be worth noting in the article/Juice Shoppe section? [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 15:57, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
:Well, I screwed up in my attempt to investigate this further, but it wasn't a total lost.

:So after I soft reset and flew back to the Juice Shoppe, the menu changed again, this time to the 20k rare soda and a 40k Ultra rare soda and a pink 2100 juice. I saved after seeing these items, now the menu is stuck as that..so it seems as long as you save before you find out the menu, it is not locked in and can be changed with further soft resets. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 16:04, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

==Restaurant Stars==
It mentions in the article that if you complete the selected option for battling (Double, Triple, Rotation, ect) and get a perfect score, then a star appears next to that option. However do these stars actually do anything? Like if I completed all of them perfectly, would I get a discount or something important like that? [[User:Darkcloud1111|'''''Darkcloud1111''''']][[User talk:Darkcloud1111|'''~Fastest Hero Alive''']] 20:44, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
:I think its mostly a Aesthetic badge of honor showing that you've achieved the goal for that battle option. I've noticed no change outside of that in terms of price or prize money.[[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 21:43, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
::I have just got perfect scores/stars in every battle type in all 4 restaurants and it doesn't seem to do anything other that allow you to tip that restaurant $10,000 and have the person that serves you at the counter have different dialog (treating you like a regular customer). I though it might add a star/change the color of my Trainer Card, but I guess not! --[[User:Evacino|'''evacino''']][[User talk:Evacino|''' (talk)''']] 15:49, 17 February 2014 (GMT)

==Do Cookies Go With Milk?==
I've been buying Lumiose Galettes for a LONG time, and I've never received a Moomoo Milk. [[User:NerfPlayeR135|NerfPlayeR135]] ([[User talk:NerfPlayeR135|talk]]) 00:25, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
:I think you only get the Moomoo Milk if you buy a Galette within an hour of a sale starting (i.e., from 3 to 4 or from 9 to 10), and even then I think you only get one per day. —[[User:Minimiscience|Minimiscience]] ([[User talk:Minimiscience|talk]]) 16:08, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

== Help Needed Roseli Berry used in Ultra Rare Soda it seems, whats the other berry? ==

So, I saw a image of a snapshot taken of the Roseli berry's official guide entry, and it states the berry newcomer is one of the ingredients needed to make Ultra Rare Soda.

It took me a 1 hour and 10 minutes but I tested each combination of Roseli berry with the berries I have, and none worked.

The only berries I have yet to test are...
Starf Berry (which is needed to make normal Rare Soda)
Enigma Berry
Micle Berry
Custap Berry
Jaboca Berry
Rowap Berry

Those six berries I do not possess, so testing them on my side is impossible. so could someone test the other berries if possible? [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 06:21, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
:I'm sure we spoke about this in the forums today, but I forgot to mention that I am willing to try to get my hands on a Starf so I can test it out (unless if someone else has tested it). We'd have to wait on the other 5 Berries you listed since they aren't available in X and Y yet. [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 01:45, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
::yes we did, hopefully we can test this soon. As for the other 5, I was wondering about how we even know if those are in the game or not. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 02:06, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
:::Good news: I got my hands on a Starf, and I have plenty of Roseli, so I can test. However, the combination gives a Mixed Shake. Once the other 5 are made available, we can test those. [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 02:45, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
Ok thank you, that sure helps. Well lets hope the other berries are released soon. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 05:12, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

==Restaurant Template==
Should we switch the current trainer template in those restaurants to the template which features Pokémon moves? (I don't know what's that called)
It is better to know their moves, so we could somehow prepare in advance to earn the stars. --[[User:Yukyankee|Yukyankee]] ([[User talk:Yukyankee|talk]]) 16:03, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

==Style & Tiers==
SciresM went and figured out how style works, and at what Style decreases Mega Stone prices. If you want a table of it for here, read more at ProjectPokemon [http://projectpokemon.org/forums/showthread.php?37269-X-Y-Save-File-Research#post181290]. [[User:Kaphotics|Kaphotics]] ([[User talk:Kaphotics|talk]]) 01:15, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

==Pokemon Center Poke Miles shop, Heart Scale?==
I just moved a shop listing for items exchangeable for Poke Miles to this page. In the process, I deleted an entry for Heart Scales that was [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pok%C3%A9_Mile&oldid=2084166 previously] included in the shop. I doubt this is true (in [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dm4g370aCrw a YouTube video] of someone who's beaten the Elite Four, it doesn't appear on their list of items; I can't readily imagine any circumstance that might add Heart Scales to that shop, then), but I just wanted to leave this note so maybe other people could check it on their games. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:28, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
::No HeartScale from the guy's menu, only acquirable thru the global link shop [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 05:40, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

== Juice Shoppe Berry Mixing Research ==

Ok, so right now I am researching and collecting data on mixing red berries together to see how strong the juice they make is.

Results so far

{| class="roundy" style="border: 2px solid #111111; background:#555555; margin-right: 5px; margin-bottom: 5px"
|-
! colspan="2" rowspan="2" |
! colspan="10" style="{{roundytr|5px}} background:#999999" | Second Berry
|-
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Cheri Berry Sprite.png]]
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Leppa Berry Sprite.png]]
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Figy Berry Sprite.png]]
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Pomeg Berry Sprite.png]]
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Tamato Berry Sprite.png]]
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Occa Berry Sprite.png]]
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Chople Berry Sprite.png]]
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Haban Berry Sprite.png]]
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Liechi Berry Sprite.png]]
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Lansat Berry Sprite.png]]
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! rowspan="10" style="background:#999999" | F i r s t B e r r y
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Cheri Berry Sprite.png]]
| 4
| 8
| 16
| 16
| 16
| N/A
| 12
| 12
| 16
| 16
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Leppa Berry Sprite.png]]
| 8
| 4
| 16
| 16
| 16
| N/A
| 12
| 12
| 16
| 16
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Figy Berry Sprite.png]]
| 16
| 16
| 12
| 32
| 32
| N/A
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Pomeg Berry Sprite.png]]
| 16
| 16
| 32
| 12
| 32
| N/A
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Tamato Berry Sprite.png]]
| 16
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 12
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Occa Berry Sprite.png]]
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Chople Berry Sprite.png]]
| 12
| 12
| 32
| 32
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Haban Berry Sprite.png]]
| 12
| 12
| 32
| 32
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Liechi Berry Sprite.png]]
| 16
| 16
| 32
| 32
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Lansat Berry Sprite.png]]
| 16
| 16
| 32
| 32
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
|-
| colspan="12" style="{{roundybottom|5px}}; background:#999999" |
|}{{-}}

Since making a chart with all 50+ available in-game berries would be too hard (I tried, I wanted to go on a murderous rampage using a kantana followed by Hari kari) this seems to be the best way to show the effects of mixing each berries, at least within the same color group. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 08:49, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

:Ok, here is a updated red berry chart and the charts for the other berries. The colored numbers will be explained later down...

Red Berry Chart
{| class="roundy" style="text-align:center; font-size:90%; border: 2px solid #111; background:#555; margin-right: 5px; margin-bottom: 5px"
|-
! colspan="2" rowspan="2" |
! colspan="10" style="{{roundytr|5px}} background:#999; font-size:111%" | Second Berry
|- style="background:#FF5656"
! [[File:Bag Cheri Berry Sprite.png|link=Cheri Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Leppa Berry Sprite.png|link=Leppa Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Figy Berry Sprite.png|link=Figy Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Pomeg Berry Sprite.png|link=Pomeg Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Tamato Berry Sprite.png|link=Tamato Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Occa Berry Sprite.png|link=Occa Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Chople Berry Sprite.png|link=Chople Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Haban Berry Sprite.png|link=Haban Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Liechi Berry Sprite.png|link=Liechi Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Lansat Berry Sprite.png|link=Lansat Berry]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
! rowspan="10" style="background:#999" | F i r s t B e r r y
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Cheri Berry Sprite.png|link=Cheri Berry]]
| style="background:#FF8989" | 4
| 8
| 16
| 16
| 16
| 12
| 12
| 12
| 16
| 16
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Leppa Berry Sprite.png|link=Leppa Berry]]
| 8
| style="background:#FF8989" | 4
| 16
| 16
| 16
| 12
| 12
| 12
| 16
| 16
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Figy Berry Sprite.png|link=Figy Berry]]
| 16
| 16
| style="background:#FF5656" | 12
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Pomeg Berry Sprite.png|link=Pomeg Berry]]
| 16
| 16
| 32
| style="background:#FF5656" | 12
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Tamato Berry Sprite.png|link=Tamato Berry]]
| 16
| 16
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#FF5656" | 12
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Occa Berry Sprite.png|link=Occa Berry]]
| 12
| 12
| 32
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#FF7070" | 8
| 16
| 16
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Chople Berry Sprite.png|link=Chople Berry]]
| 12
| 12
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 16
| style="background:#FF7070" | 8
| 16
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Haban Berry Sprite.png|link=Haban Berry]]
| 12
| 12
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 16
| 16
| style="background:#FF7070" | 8
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Liechi Berry Sprite.png|link=Liechi Berry]]
| 16
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#FF5656" | 12
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Lansat Berry Sprite.png|link=Lansat Berry]]
| 16
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#FF5656" | 12
|-
| colspan="12" style="{{roundybottom|5px}}; background:#999" |
|}{{-}}

Purple Berry Chart
{| class="roundy" style="text-align:center; font-size:90%; border: 2px solid #111; background:#555; margin-right: 5px; margin-bottom: 5px"
|-
! colspan="2" rowspan="2" |
! colspan="6" style="{{roundytr|5px}} background:#999; font-size:111%" | Second Berry
|- style="background:#b154ba"
! [[File:Bag Chesto Berry Sprite.png|link=Chesto Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Wiki Berry Sprite.png|link=Wiki Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Payapa Berry Sprite.png|link=Payapa Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Kasib Berry Sprite.png|link=Kasib Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Colbur Berry Sprite.png|link=Colbur Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Ganlon Berry Sprite.png|link=Ganlon Berry]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
! rowspan="6" style="background:#999" | F i r s t B e r r y
! style="background:#b154ba" | [[File:Bag Chesto Berry Sprite.png|link=Chesto Berry]]
| style="background:#c278c9" | 4
| 16
| 12
| 12
| 12
| 16
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#b154ba" | [[File:Bag Wiki Berry Sprite.png|link=Wiki Berry]]
| 16
| style="background:#b154ba" | 12
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#b154ba" | [[File:Bag Payapa Berry Sprite.png|link=Payapa Berry]]
| 12
| 32
| style="background:#b966c1" | 8
| 16
| 16
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#b154ba" | [[File:Bag Kasib Berry Sprite.png|link=Kasib Berry]]
| 12
| 32
| 16
| style="background:#b966c1" | 8
| 16
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#b154ba" | [[File:Bag Colbur Berry Sprite.png|link=Colbur Berry]]
| 12
| 32
| 16
| 16
| style="background:#b966c1" | 8
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#b154ba" | [[File:Bag Ganlon Berry Sprite.png|link=Ganlon Berry]]
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#b154ba" | 12
|-
| colspan="8" style="{{roundybottom|5px}}; background:#999" |
|}{{-}}

Pink Berry Chart
{| class="roundy" style="text-align:center; font-size:90%; border: 2px solid #111; background:#555; margin-right: 5px; margin-bottom: 5px"
|-
! colspan="2" rowspan="2" |
! colspan="5" style="{{roundytr|5px}} background:#999; font-size:111%" | Second Berry
|- style="background:#{{fairy color}}"
! [[File:Bag Pecha Berry Sprite.png|link=Pecha Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Persim Berry Sprite.png|link=Persim Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Mago Berry Sprite.png|link=Mago Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Petaya Berry Sprite.png|link=Petaya Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Roseli Berry Sprite.png|link=Roseli Berry]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
! rowspan="5" style="background:#999" | F i r s t B e r r y
! style="background:#{{fairy color}}" | [[File:Bag Pecha Berry Sprite.png|link=Pecha Berry]]
| style="background:#f8d3db" | 4
| 12
| 16
| 16
| 16
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#{{fairy color}}" | [[File:Bag Persim Berry Sprite.png|link=Persim Berry]]
| 12
| style="background:#{{fairy color light}}" | 8
| 32
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#{{fairy color}}" | [[File:Bag Mago Berry Sprite.png|link=Mago Berry]]
| 16
| 32
| style="background:#{{fairy color}}" | 12
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#{{fairy color}}" | [[File:Bag Petaya Berry Sprite.png|link=Petaya Berry]]
| 16
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#{{fairy color}}" | 12
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#{{fairy color}}" | [[File:Bag Roseli Berry Sprite.png|link=Roseli Berry]]
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#{{fairy color}}" | 12
|-
| colspan="9" style="{{roundybottom|5px}}; background:#999" |
|}{{-}}

Green Berry Chart
{| class="roundy" style="text-align:center; font-size:90%; border: 2px solid #111; background:#555; margin-right: 5px; margin-bottom: 5px"
|-
! colspan="2" rowspan="2" |
! colspan="10" style="{{roundytr|5px}} background:#999; font-size:111%" | Second Berry
|- style="background:#56FF56"
! [[File:Bag Rawst Berry Sprite.png|link=Rawst Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Lum Berry Sprite.png|link=Lum Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Aguav Berry Sprite.png|link=Aguav Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Hondew Berry Sprite.png|link=Hondew Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Rindo Berry Sprite.png|link=Rindo Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Kebia Berry Sprite.png|link=Kebia Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Tanga Berry Sprite.png|link=Tanga Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Babiri Berry Sprite.png|link=Babiri Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Salac Berry Sprite.png|link=Salac Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Starf Berry Sprite.png|link=Starf Berry]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
! rowspan="10" style="background:#999" | F i r s t B e r r y
! style="background:#56FF56" | [[File:Bag Rawst Berry Sprite.png|link=Rawst Berry]]
| style="background:#89FF98" | 4
| 12
| 16
| 16
| 12
| 12
| 12
| 12
| 16
| 16
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#56FF56" | [[File:Bag Lum Berry Sprite.png|link=Lum Berry]]
| 12
| style="background:#70FF70" | 8
| 32
| 32
| 16
| 16
| 16
| 16
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#56FF56" | [[File:Bag Aguav Berry Sprite.png|link=Aguav Berry]]
| 16
| 32
| style="background:#56FF56" | 12
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#56FF56" | [[File:Bag Hondew Berry Sprite.png|link=Hondew Berry]]
| 16
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#56FF56" | 12
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#56FF56" | [[File:Bag Rindo Berry Sprite.png|link=Rindo Berry]]
| 12
| 16
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#70FF70" | 8
| 16
| 16
| 16
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#56FF56" | [[File:Bag Kebia Berry Sprite.png|link=Kebia Berry]]
| 12
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 16
| style="background:#70FF70" | 8
| 16
| 16
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#56FF56" | [[File:Bag Tanga Berry Sprite.png|link=Tanga Berry]]
| 12
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 16
| 16
| style="background:#70FF70" | 8
| 16
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#56FF56" | [[File:Bag Babiri Berry Sprite.png|link=Babiri Berry]]
| 12
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 16
| 16
| 16
| style="background:#70FF70" | 8
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#56FF56" | [[File:Bag Salac Berry Sprite.png|link=Salac Berry]]
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#56FF56" | 12
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#56FF56" | [[File:Bag Starf Berry Sprite.png|link=Starf Berry]]
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#56FF56" | 12
|-
| colspan="12" style="{{roundybottom|5px}}; background:#999" |
|}{{-}}

Yellow Berry Chart
{| class="roundy" style="text-align:center; font-size:90%; border: 2px solid #111; background:#555; margin-right: 5px; margin-bottom: 5px"
|-
! colspan="2" rowspan="2" |
! colspan="10" style="{{roundytr|5px}} background:#999; font-size:111%" | Second Berry
|- style="background:#FFFF56"
! [[File:Bag Aspear Berry Sprite.png|link=Aspear Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Sitrus Berry Sprite.png|link=Sitrus Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Iapapa Berry Sprite.png|link=Iapapa Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Qualot Berry Sprite.png|link=Qualot Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Grepa Berry Sprite.png|link=Grepa Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Wacan Berry Sprite.png|link=Wacan Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Shuca Berry Sprite.png|link=Shuca Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Charti Berry Sprite.png|link=Charti Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Chilan Berry Sprite.png|link=Chilan Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Kee Berry Sprite.png|link=Kee Berry]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
! rowspan="10" style="background:#999" | F i r s t B e r r y
! style="background:#FFFF56" | [[File:Bag Aspear Berry Sprite.png|link=Aspear Berry]]
| style="background:#FFFFa3" | 4
| 12
| 16
| 16
| 16
| 12
| 12
| 12
| 12
| 16
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FFFF56" | [[File:Bag Sitrus Berry Sprite.png|link=Sitrus Berry]]
| 12
| style="background:#FFFF89" | 8
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 16
| 16
| 16
| 16
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FFFF56" | [[File:Bag Iapapa Berry Sprite.png|link=Iapapa Berry]]
| 16
| 32
| style="background:#FFFF56" | 12
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FFFF56" | [[File:Bag Qualot Berry Sprite.png|link=Qualot Berry]]
| 16
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#FFFF56" | 12
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FFFF56" | [[File:Bag Grepa Berry Sprite.png|link=Grepa Berry]]
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#FFFF56" | 12
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FFFF56" | [[File:Bag Wacan Berry Sprite.png|link=Wacan Berry]]
| 12
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#FFFF89" | 8
| 16
| 16
| 16
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FFFF56" | [[File:Bag Shuca Berry Sprite.png|link=Shuca Berry]]
| 12
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 16
| style="background:#FFFF89" | 8
| 16
| 16
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FFFF56" | [[File:Bag Charti Berry Sprite.png|link=Charti Berry]]
| 12
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 16
| 16
| style="background:#FFFF89" | 8
| 16
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FFFF56" | [[File:Bag Chilan Berry Sprite.png|link=Chilan Berry]]
| 12
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 16
| 16
| 16
| style="background:#FFFF89" | 8
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FFFF56" | [[File:Bag Kee Berry Sprite.png|link=Kee Berry]]
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#FFFF56" | 12
|-
| colspan="12" style="{{roundybottom|5px}}; background:#999" |
|}{{-}}

Blue Berry Chart
{| class="roundy" style="text-align:center; font-size:90%; border: 2px solid #111; background:#555; margin-right: 5px; margin-bottom: 5px"
|-
! colspan="2" rowspan="2" |
! colspan="7" style="{{roundytr|5px}} background:#999; font-size:111%" | Second Berry
|- style="background:#5656ff"
! [[File:Bag Oran Berry Sprite.png|link=Oran Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Kelpsy Berry Sprite.png|link=Kelpsy Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Passho Berry Sprite.png|link=Passho Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Yache Berry Sprite.png|link=Yache Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Coba Berry Sprite.png|link=Coba Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Apicot Berry Sprite.png|link=Apicot Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Maranga Berry Sprite.png|link=Maranga Berry]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
! rowspan="7" style="background:#999" | F i r s t B e r r y
! style="background:#5656ff" | [[File:Bag Oran Berry Sprite.png|link=Oran Berry]]
| style="background:#8989ff" | 4
| 16
| 12
| 12
| 12
| 16
| 16
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#5656ff" | [[File:Bag Kelpsy Berry Sprite.png|link=Kelpsy Berry]]
| 16
| style="background:#5656ff" | 12
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#5656ff" | [[File:Bag Passho Berry Sprite.png|link=Passho Berry]]
| 12
| 32
| style="background:#7070ff" | 8
| 16
| 16
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#5656ff" | [[File:Bag Yache Berry Sprite.png|link=Yache Berry]]
| 12
| 32
| 16
| style="background:#7070ff" | 8
| 16
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#5656ff" | [[File:Bag Coba Berry Sprite.png|link=Coba Berry]]
| 12
| 32
| 16
| 16
| style="background:#7070ff" | 8
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#5656ff" | [[File:Bag Apicot Berry Sprite.png|link=Apicot Berry]]
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#5656ff" | 12
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#5656ff" | [[File:Bag Maranga Berry Sprite.png|link=Maranga Berry]]
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#5656ff" | 12
|-
| colspan="9" style="{{roundybottom|5px}}; background:#999" |
|}{{-}}

:Thank to a collaboration with '''Tiddlywinks''' it has been discovered that berries, no mater the color, can be cataloged into 3 groups based on one single property, the strength of the juice they make when mixed with themselves.

:Group 1 berries will always result in a 4 when mixed with themselves, group 2 berries a 8 and group 3 a 12. No currently known berry will result in a 16 or 32 when mixed with itself. On the charts above, I have marked all berry group indicators by a color, I also believe this helps a person better follow the flow of the chart since plain white can kind of blur into a wall of text.

:Berry groups will also always result in the same berry juice strength when mixed with another (different) berry of the same color in the same group. Group 1 berries will always result in a strength of 8 when mixed with another group 1 berry. They will also result in a 16 or a 12 when mixed with a group 2 or group 3 berry respectively. Group 2 berries will always result in 16 when mixed with another group 2 berry, and a 32 when mixed with any group 3 berry. Whenever 2 group 3 berries are mixed, the result is always 32.

:These two charts can better illustrate the berry groups and their mixing results.

{| class="roundy" style="text-align:center; border: 2px solid #111; background:#555; margin-right: 5px; margin-bottom: 5px" cellpadding="2px"
! colspan=3 style="background:#999; {{roundytop|5px}}" | Berry Groups
|- style="background:#{{steel color}}"
! 1
! 2
! 3
|- style="background:#FF5656"
| [[File:Bag Cheri Berry Sprite.png|link=Cheri Berry]] [[File:Bag Leppa Berry Sprite.png|link=Leppa Berry]]
| [[File:Bag Occa Berry Sprite.png|link=Occa Berry]] [[File:Bag Chople Berry Sprite.png|link=Chople Berry]] [[File:Bag Haban Berry Sprite.png|link=Haban Berry]]
| [[File:Bag Figy Berry Sprite.png|link=Figy Berry]] [[File:Bag Pomeg Berry Sprite.png|link=Pomeg Berry]] [[File:Bag Tamato Berry Sprite.png|link=Tamato Berry]] [[File:Bag Liechi Berry Sprite.png|link=Liechi Berry]] [[File:Bag Lansat Berry Sprite.png|link=Lansat Berry]]
|- style="background:#B154BA"
| [[File:Bag Chesto Berry Sprite.png|link=Chesto Berry]]
| [[File:Bag Payapa Berry Sprite.png|link=Payapa Berry]] [[File:Bag Kasib Berry Sprite.png|link=Kasib Berry]] [[File:Bag Colbur Berry Sprite.png|link=Colbur Berry]]
| [[File:Bag Wiki Berry Sprite.png|link=Wiki Berry]] [[File:Bag Ganlon Berry Sprite.png|link=Ganlon Berry]]
|- style="background:#{{fairy color}}"
| [[File:Bag Pecha Berry Sprite.png|link=Pecha Berry]]
| [[File:Bag Persim Berry Sprite.png|link=Persim Berry]]
| [[File:Bag Mago Berry Sprite.png|link=Mago Berry]] [[File:Bag Petaya Berry Sprite.png|link=Petaya Berry]] [[File:Bag Roseli Berry Sprite.png|link=Roseli Berry]]
|- style="background:#56FF56"
| [[File:Bag Rawst Berry Sprite.png|link=Rawst Berry]]
| [[File:Bag Lum Berry Sprite.png|link=Lum Berry]] [[File:Bag Rindo Berry Sprite.png|link=Rindo Berry]] [[File:Bag Kebia Berry Sprite.png|link=Kebia Berry]] [[File:Bag Tanga Berry Sprite.png|link=Tanga Berry]] [[File:Bag Babiri Berry Sprite.png|link=Babiri Berry]]
| [[File:Bag Aguav Berry Sprite.png|link=Aguav Berry]] [[File:Bag Hondew Berry Sprite.png|link=Hondew Berry]] [[File:Bag Salac Berry Sprite.png|link=Salac Berry]] [[File:Bag Starf Berry Sprite.png|link=Starf Berry]]
|-
| style="background:#FFFF56" | [[File:Bag Aspear Berry Sprite.png|link=Aspear Berry]]
| style="background:#FFFF56" | [[File:Bag Sitrus Berry Sprite.png|link=Sitrus Berry]] [[File:Bag Wacan Berry Sprite.png|link=Wacan Berry]] [[File:Bag Shuca Berry Sprite.png|link=Shuca Berry]] [[File:Bag Charti Berry Sprite.png|link=Charti Berry]] [[File:Bag Chilan Berry Sprite.png|link=Chilan Berry]]
| style="background:#FFFF56" | [[File:Bag Iapapa Berry Sprite.png|link=Iapapa Berry]] [[File:Bag Qualot Berry Sprite.png|link=Qualot Berry]] [[File:Bag Grepa Berry Sprite.png|link=Grepa Berry]] [[File:Bag Kee Berry Sprite.png|link=Kee Berry]]
|- style="background:#5656FF"
| [[File:Bag Oran Berry Sprite.png|link=Oran Berry]]
| [[File:Bag Passho Berry Sprite.png|link=Passho Berry]] [[File:Bag Yache Berry Sprite.png|link=Yache Berry]] [[File:Bag Coba Berry Sprite.png|link=Coba Berry]]
| [[File:Bag Kelpsy Berry Sprite.png|link=Kelpsy Berry]] [[File:Bag Apicot Berry Sprite.png|link=Apicot Berry]] [[File:Bag Maranga Berry Sprite.png|link=Maranga Berry]]
|-
|}{{-}}
{| class="roundy" style="text-align:center; border: 2px solid #111; background:#555; margin-right: 5px; margin-bottom: 5px"
!
! style="background:#{{steel color}}" | Group 1
! style="background:#{{steel color}}" | Group 2
! style="background:#{{steel color}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Group 3
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#{{steel color}}" | Group 1
| {{tt|4|Mixing two of the same berry}}-8 || 16 || 12
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#{{steel color}}" | Group 2
| 16 || {{tt|8|Mixing two of the same berry}}-16 || 32
|-
! style="background:#{{steel color}}; {{roundybl|5px}}" | Group 3
| style="background:#FFF" | 12
| style="background:#FFF" | 32
| style="background:#FFF; {{roundybr|5px}}" | {{tt|12|Mixing two of the same berry}}-32
|}{{-}}

I'm not sure what the best way to relay this message is, but hopefully this can help educate people on how best to get the most out of their berry mixes and better EV train their Pokémon to the specifications of their choice.[[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 21:21, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

:Some of this information seems to be incorrect. Specifically, values received from mixing two different groups of berries. Just now, I attempted to mix two Yellow berries, one Aspear (Group 1) and one Sitrus (Group 2), seeing that mixing a Group 1 and a Group 2 would give better results than mixing a Group 1 and a Group 3. However, I only actually received 12 EVs from the resulting shake, not 16. I then confirmed that those two berries were in the groups they're stated to be in by mixing two of the same, and finally tested mixing a Group 1 and a Group 3, which resulted in 16 EVs. It seems the values for mixing between groups is reversed, which would make more sense anyway.

:Also, your original set of charts seems to agree with my findings, showing an Aspear plus a Sitrus as giving 12, and Group 1 plus Group 3 berries giving 16. It seems something just got lost in the translation to the new charts. [[User:True Hitoare|True Hitoare]] ([[User talk:True Hitoare|talk]]) 06:35, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

==Juice Shoppe split==
I plan to add a big table (or tables, not sure right now) describing exactly what results you get for mixing what Berries to the Juice Shoppe. At that point, it's really better off as its own page. If you'd like an idea, the data may end up something like the chart at the end of [[User talk:Tiddlywinks#Could you spellcheck this Chart please?|this section]], or it may end up more like the first rainbow-colored chart in the middle of that section. (I can appreciate if you might feel like critiquing those charts, but please understand they are works in progress.)

I don't think there's any overriding need for much of the Juice Shoppe section to be on this page. A little summary with a "main" link to the separate page should be just fine. If you want to know about the Juice Shoppe - especially if we're giving all the exact mixing results - then it's really better off as its own page rather than as a section of Lumiose City. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:13, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

:I think given the complexity of mixing berries, a article for the Juice Shoppe would be appropriate.

:I was looking at the Juice Shoppe section, comparing it to the other sections, and it throws off the flow of the page. It has more info in it than two of the other sections combined. It seems so out of place and bulgy compared to the other sections that consist of a simple introductory sentence or paragraph.

:Plus, once we figure out how best to implement some table(s) in order to illustrate the data, it will become even more bulky. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 20:15, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
::Could you develop a page on your userpage so we can have a general idea of how it will look and such before we make a final decision about the split? '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 21:07, 11 April 2014 (UTC)
:::...A general idea? That's easy enough. '''[[User:Tiddlywinks/Juice Shoppe|Here]]'''. Do understand that I deliver what you asked for: the general idea. I don't at the moment have all the information I want for that page (notably, "extremely"/"really" are basically placeholders for hard numbers), and without that, I don't really feel like I can make it "complete", so past a certain point (e.g., color scheme...) I won't even try yet. I am not satisfied with that as an end product, but I also don't like waiting, so I hope you can make a decision off of that "general idea". I'm entirely open to suggestions or comments. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:07, 11 April 2014 (UTC)
::::After discussion with some of the other staff, we'd like to see a more finalized version of the draft you made before we give the final thumbs up for the split. Suggestion wise, I think a picture or two would be beneficial to help make the page "pop" a little more. I like the direction the page is headed in though and hope to follow up on it after it's developed a bit more. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 03:31, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
:::::Another user filled in the data I most needed, so I finally decided to put more work into this. I don't know how you expected me to add any pictures when this whole site is fishing for anything it can use, so instead, I [[User:Tiddlywinks/Juice Shoppe|decided to rework it]] so the information is laid out more evenly.
:::::I've still put off choosing a cohesive color scheme, but except for that (and the missing friendship data for the <Color> Juices), I consider that page complete, so I'd appreciate it if you could say whether (color scheme aside) that'd be worth a thumbs up now.
:::::...Actually, I'm also not sure what categories to give it, so maybe you could suggest (or add) a few? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:58, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
I went ahead and added some info on the berry groups and whatnot to the article's Juice Shoppe section. My worse fear was that it would make that section bulky, and I was right. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 00:39, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

:I agree wholeheartedly about the split. The Juice Shoppe section is too large. [[User:Mr. Guye|Mr. Guye]] ([[User talk:Mr. Guye|talk]]) 17:47, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

==Demographics==
Just wondering, but does anybody know what the population of Lumiose City is, because I noticed a lack of demographics section and a population number in the Kalos Region page. {{unsigned|Zallaraxium}}
:Would the disappearing pedestrians be counted? {{ci|Castelia}} has them too and yet has a stated population of 127. I would think only stationary residents are counted. --[[User:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|The]]Very[[User talk:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|Best]] 04:44, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
::I would think so, I wouldn't really know as I a new here. [[User:Zallaraxium|Zallaraxium]] ([[User talk:Zallaraxium|talk]]) 10:59, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
:::Taxi drivers count too. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 15:16, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
::::It has been added now, 416 people, that easily dwarfs all of the oter large cities [[User:Zallaraxium|Zallaraxium]] ([[User talk:Zallaraxium|talk]]) 20:07, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

==Pearl Strings and Furfrou styling==
So, I'm on a solid 18 days straight with my lovely Furfrou, and I'm not actually given any Pearl Strings by the only Madame in the shop. I must ask, where was this information gained? I believe it may be false. I can't seem to find good proof, but perhaps someone else can test this? [[User:Thieverpedia|Thieverpedia]] ([[User talk:Thieverpedia|talk]]) 23:28, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
:The article states that the Pearl Strings are from a Madame in Café Woof, not Friseur Furfrou (which is next door). Are you sure you're looking in the correct building? —[[User:Minimiscience|Minimiscience]] ([[User talk:Minimiscience|talk]]) 15:37, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
:Ah. That was the problem. I must have missed it when I was reading the small text on my tablet. Thanks for clearing that up! [[User:Thieverpedia|Thieverpedia]] ([[User talk:Thieverpedia|talk]]) 04:51, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

==Stylishness Redirects?==
I realise that there's already a redirect for "style", linking to the 'Style' section of this article, but should there also be redirects for 'Stylish' and 'Stylishness' to make them easier to find? Just an idea. [[User:Ben10do|–Ben10do]] ([[User talk:Ben10do|talk]]) 17:41, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
:Not to mention a table explaining how Style works, which is info we've had since [http://projectpokemon.org/forums/showthread.php?37269-X-Y-Save-File-Research#post181290 February…] --[[User:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|The]]Very[[User talk:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|Best]] 04:44, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

==Stone Emporium's Mega Stone==
I picked Bulbasaur as my Kanto starter and this article makes it seem like I can buy either Charizardite X or Blastoisinite now and the other in the post-game. However, the NPC will only sell me Charizardite X. I'm pretty sure this means that you actually have no choice in the order of Mega Stones, and that the first buyable one is for the starter with the advantage over yours, but I came here first as a formality. {{tt|If|another formality}} I'm right, this distinction needs to be stated in the {{DL|Lumiose City|Stone Emporium}} section. Furthermore, these Mega Stones aren't shown anywhere in the items section, only the ones given by Prof. Sycamore. They [[Lumiose City#Stone Emporium 2|belong here]] in a separate table that explains that they are sold by the elderly man in the Emporium, not the clerk, and with the aforementioned restrictions. --[[User:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|The]]Very[[User talk:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|Best]] 04:44, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
:Actually, I think I chose Squirtle (I already had Fennekin) and I'm being given the Venusaurite first. I think you are correct. Though it would have someone with Charizard chosen first to confirm this since it could also be going in stone order, with the Venusaurite first unless already claimed by choosing Bulbasaur. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 15:21, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

== Style/lottery ==

I just added data for style (thanks in part to info from a link above). I've not proceeded to (or especially near) the post-game as yet, so I couldn't add data for stuff like Sushi High Roller, but there's one really big question that stands out...style increases for the lottery.

When I didn't get any match at the lottery, I got 0 style. When I only matched 1 digit, I got 1 style. ...I don't know about any higher matches right now; while it'd make sense if the style increase equals the size of the match, that's just a guess right now. The big problem here is that it seems lotto numbers don't soft reset easily. So it'd be a big help if anyone who doesn't have max style could try the lotto and see how much style is increased if they get a 2-digit or larger match. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:28, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

== Is there really a Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}40,000? ==

Ok, this has been bugging me for a while now. Can someone verify if there really is a Rare Soda (Not Ultra Rare Soda) that costs {{pokedollar}}40,000 and increases level by 4?

I've run across lots of {{pokedollar}}30,000 Rare Sodas from the man, but I can't recall running into a {{pokedollar}}40,000 Rare Soda, Only Ultra Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}40,000.

It kind of seems pointless to have both a Rare Soda that raises lv by 4, and also have a Ultra Rare Soda that raises lv by 4. Why on green earth would GameFreak program in such a repetitive thing? [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 07:34, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

:Ok, I've soft reset 20 times and have not come across a '''Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}40,000'''. I've come across 6 Ultra Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}50,000, 1 Ultra Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}40,000, 4 Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}30,000 2 Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}20,000 and 3 {{pokedollar}}10,000 but not a single Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}40,000. Does the Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}40,000 show up in a guide, or was it editor generated? [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 22:10, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
::20 times isn't all bad, but you only actually saw 9 Rare Sodas, which makes a big(ger) difference. If you could find at least 30 different Rare Sodas and none are 40000, that'd be fairly weighty.
::...Which isn't to say I think there is a 40000 Rare Soda. Another user [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User:Tiddlywinks/Juice_Shoppe&diff=2104627&oldid=2103370 previously] edited exactly that on my Juice Shoppe page (possibly based on information from a guidebook). I mean, yeah, it doesn't really make sense to have a Rare Soda that adds 4 levels when you've got an Ultra Rare Soda that does that (for the same price). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:24, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
:::Well regardless this needs further Investigating. I am about to do another round of soft resets to see if I find the mystical Rare Soda. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 21:31, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
I unfortunately lost exact count how many times I soft reset, but It was at least 25 (had a note pad open and pressed enter for each soft reset, so the count is 25-27 with 25 defiantly the min) but I saw 3 Ultra Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}40,000, 5 Ultra Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}50,000, 2 Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}20,000 and 2 {{pokedollar}}10,000 7 Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}30,000. Next time I guess I will document each item shown with each soft reset. On a side note, it seems that Colorful Shake {{pokedollar}}5,000 exists, not sure if anything higher exists but that's the highest colorful shake I've ever come across.[[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 21:53, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
Ok, I did 25 soft resets and not once did the Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}40,000 show up.

I compiled the results with a Excel spread sheet that I also used to keep track of resets. In 25 soft resets I saw 8 Blue juices of various values. 8 Colorful Shakes of various values, one of which was '''OVER 9000!!!''' (lol sorry), 8 Green juices of various values. 9 Pink Juices of various values. 5 Purple Juices of various values. 4 Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}10,000, 5 Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}20,000 and 4 Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}30,000. Again, 0 Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}40,000 to be found. There were 7 Red Juices of various values. I saw 2 Ultra Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}40,000 and 3 Ultra Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}50,000. I also saw 12 Yellow juices of various values.

http://dc700.4shared.com/img/3YBoAKi-ce/s7/1467b3ad640/Snapshot_20140608.JPG?

The only significant find in that test was that Colorful Shake can sell as High, maybe higher then {{pokedollar}}10,000 Coincidentally, that was on the 25th soft reset.

Given that in the last week I've soft reset somewhere in the neighborhood of 75 times, I should have statistically came across the Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}40,000 by now. The more I soft reset, the more I am believing the Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}40,000 is a mistaken identity for a Ultra Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}40,000 [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 11:44, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

==PR Video==
I know we don't have much on it right now, but I think "Trainer PR Video" should be an article. We could list all the different effects and makeup stuff. [[User:GreenFlame|GreenFlame]] ([[User talk:GreenFlame|talk]]) 00:19, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
:I entirely agree. That's why I actually started [[Trainer PR Video|such a page]]. What it primarily needs at the moment is coverage of the creation/editing of videos; except for that, it's basically ready for the mainspace. I just haven't had the motivation to make myself sit down and write that up. (It's also missing a couple of the captions in English still and a section for the makeup, but those are pretty easy fixes.)
:I'll see about writing the "Making" section to my satisfaction tomorrow or so, but if I can't make myself do that and if you're willing, I might be willing to let you have at it. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:51, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
::I've got some ideas for an article I guess and I could handle the makeup part, but where do I put them? Also apologies about putting comments in the wrong place, I'm new to this.[[User:GreenFlame|GreenFlame]] ([[User talk:GreenFlame|talk]]) 06:01, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
:::I'll try to do what needs doing myself tomorrow, you don't need to worry about where to put anything (hopefully at all, as far as PR Videos go). I just haven't had any motivation to take even the time it'd require. If I need anything, I'll let you know what's up. =) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 06:29, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

== Style chart ==

[[User:Ocelot King|Ocelot King]] ([[User talk:Ocelot King|talk]]) 02:38, 5 June 2015 (UTC) I went into Café Introversion to get the Hatching Power, and got it. Then I went into The Stone Emporium and the Mega Stone was only discounted to 50,000. I think that the Style benefits chart is wrong.

== add kalos league anime ==

according to the latest pokemon anime episode, the kalos league will be in lumiose city so could someone please add that? [[User:Alondon17|Alondon17]] ([[User talk:Alondon17|talk]]) 11:16, 26 May 2016 (UTC)

== Split ==

This page, like its namesake, is huge and difficult to navigate. Each of the major sections of the page is already divided between the different sections of the city. If the page was split into individual pages for each of the major roads, information on South Boulevard wouldn't need to be separated by information on the rest of the city and could much more easily be managed. This would also allow space for more images to identify locations in the city, easing navigation by users. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 01:51, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

:That seems to be a good idea. But I can't actually do it, for I'm not autoconfirmed yet and thus can't create pages. [[User:AquaMaster777|AquaMaster777]] ([[User talk:AquaMaster777|talk]]) 19:13, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

::I second this proposal as well. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 04:36, 13 October 2018 (UTC)

:::I think we should have an overview article on the whole of the city, then link to the sections in the page. Also make the section articles available by search, of course. [[User:DoubleDeckerDave|DoubleDeckerDave]] ([[User talk:DoubleDeckerDave|talk]]) 14:40, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

::::I created an account purely for the sake of bumping this suggestion. There's a lot of content in Lumiose city, although i'll never get to most of it in-game. Even just walking through that stupid city gives me nausea and headaches, literally and figuratively. [[User:Lusamine is bae|Lusamine is bae]] ([[User talk:Lusamine is bae|talk]]) 01:40, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

== Trainer locations ==

I've managed to locate ''all'' of the ten regular Trainers present.

* Garçon Jacopo is in the alleyway past Loto-ID.
* Waitress Paget is near Bleu Plaza, on the way to the Southern Boulevard.
* Owner Toro is also near Bleu Plaza, on the way to Prism Tower - i.e. opposite Paget.
* Chef Kamaboko is past Paget, in a hidden alleyway.
* Preeetty sure Punk Girl Lillian is near Vert Plaza, opposite Cafe Cyclone.
* Punk Guy Faust is in an alleyway north of Rouge Plaza, opposite Sushi High Roller.
* Black Belt Killian is in the alleyway north of Restaurant Le Wow.
* Beauty Aimee is near Vert Plaza, outside Cafe Cyclone.
* Beauty Anais is in the back alleyway linking Jaune Plaza to Hibernal Avenue, past Trevor's house.
* Beauty Cassandra is located just past Paget, near Bleu Plaza.

It'd be nice to note all then locations somewhere on the main page; if someone could get a simple map and mark the locations on it, even better (I've no experience with image manipulation).

--[[User:PokeMaster99999|PokeMaster99999]] ([[User talk:PokeMaster99999|talk]]) 09:17, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

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==Name Similarities to Illumise==
Should it be noted that Lumiose City's French name, Illumis; is almost the same as [[Illumise]]? [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 03:40, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

==Pikachu==
Minor speculation but i can't help but notice the pikachu in the picture. Either this is just because it's the franchise mascot or pokemon from gens 1 to 5 will be in Kalos unlike Unova's first two games. --[[User:Bomyne|Bomyne]] ([[User talk:Bomyne|talk]]) 11:43, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
:[[a:File:XY Pokedex.png|We know]] that Zigzagoon (and Linoone) will be in the Kalos Pokédex. However, Pikachu might just make a cameo, like it did in [[Castelia City]] and like Shroomish did in [[Hearthome City]].--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 11:57, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
:: In the announcement trailer back in Jan where Pikachu is on the tower, they mention that favorite old Pokémon would make an appearance, and they showed an encounter with a wild Pikachu.
:: Also, while this part is speculation on my own behalf; with the emphasis on light for this city, the tower's tip might light up. It is also likely, if it does light up, it does so possibly with the aid of a (Electric-Type) Pokémon much in the same way that the lighthouse in Olivine City (did I get the right city, been a long time since I played G&S.) Plus Pikachu was shown using its electricity on top of the tower in the announcement trailer. I wouldn't be surprise if a whole slew of Electric-Type Pokémon could be found in and near Lumiose City. But, we'll have to wait and see. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 21:18, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
:::Well it would go with the name (Luminose=Light=Electricity=Electric Pokemon). And yes Yamitora the city you are thinking of is Olivine City. [[User:Nuckles123|Nuckles123]] ([[User talk:Nuckles123|talk]]) 21:33, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

==Tourism==
Why does this page sound like it has been taken from a travel book all of a sudden? Doesn't sound professional. [[User:Nuckles123|Nuckles123]] ([[User talk:Nuckles123|talk]]) 00:20, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
: I shortened and dulled it down. I don't see how it was Touristy. Also thanks ‎ArcToraphim for the fix. I keep forgetting to do that when linking Pokémon names to their articles. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 01:40, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
:: It sounded touristy to me because of the mention to shopping and fine dining but it reads more professional now. Also, for creating Pokemon templates, do {{p|Name of Pokemon} } <--(but without this extra space). [[User:Nuckles123|Nuckles123]] ([[User talk:Nuckles123|talk]]) 02:21, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

==Lumiose City Gym==
In the 3rd Pokémon X and Y trailer, at 0:34, there is an image of the tower in the centre of the city. At the entrance of the tower is the same symbol that is in front of the Santalune City Gym, in the 2nd trailer, at 0:42. This symbol is the Gym symbol from Unova, so it is safe to assume that Lumiose City also has a Gym. From Kalos' map, Lumiose City is the 3rd Location to visit, after Vaniville and Santalune, so it could be the 2nd Gym, although it could act like Petalburg or Viridian and have the Gym challenged later on. Since Lumiose City is based on Paris, the City of Lights, then the Gym type could be Electric or Fairy (there probably will be some sort of Fairy Gym/Elite Four Member somewhere in Kalos), but this is very speculative. [[User:Xolotl|Xolotl]] ([[User talk:Xolotl|talk]]) 10:21, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
:I too, noticed this in the trailer. The gym logo is also visible in a screenshot for Pokémon X and Y (I think there is a YouTube video pointing this out.), so I would think that it is fair to say that it is not just an animé variation. There have however been gyms in the animé that have not appeared in games such as those of the [[Orange Archipelago]], and unofficial gyms, including a fake gym set up by [[Team Rocket]], but I would think it unusual to have an unofficial gym ''in-game''. Of course the ''typing'' of the gym is completely speculative, however, I think that the fact that there ''is'' a Lumiose Gym is pretty conclusive.--[[User:ShinyPatch|ShinyPatch]] ([[User talk:ShinyPatch|talk]]) 18:19, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
::The odds are pretty high that it has an actual Gym, but I have to point out that it's not unprecedented to have an unofficial Gym in-game — see the [[Fighting Dojo]] in Saffron City. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 18:26, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

== Korean name for Lumiose City ==

Its Korean name is 미스시티 ''Miseu {{tt|Siti|City}}''.
* I suspect it's based on the English word "myth", although that would be transliterated as 미쓰. Alternatively, 미스 could be "Miss" (whether "female tiitle" or "opposite of hit"), but I have my doubts. I'll have to get back to this. -- [[User:Nick15|Nick15]] ([[User talk:Nick15|talk]]) 23:01, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

== Plants and Lights? ==

How come all of the other cities and towns in Kalos so far are named after plants, yet Lumiose city is named after Paris' nickname 'the city of lights'? Shouldn't it be added to the trivia that Lumiose city is the only one not named after a plant? [[User:Ziggyangelo88|Ziggyangelo88]] ([[User talk:Ziggyangelo88|talk]]) 07:47, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
:We don't know all the cities, so we don't know yet whether another will be not named after a plant. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 07:48, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

==Prism Tower==
It should be worth noted that the Eiffel-Tower like thing is called Prism Tower. [[User:Dinodestroyer|Dinodestroyer]] ([[User talk:Dinodestroyer|talk]]) 11:07, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

==The second story of one of the north buildings==
I went there and something... odd happened. Im not even sure what it was. A very strange NPC is all i can say without spoiling. You'd know it if you saw it. well whatever it was, its clearly worth mentioning. If anyone has a clue what this thing was or what it meant, that should probably be included in the article somewhere. I think it was the building with the Dojo/Dance school on top, with the 2nd floor totally empty. I can't be sure because it only happened the one time and there are no signs left behind.

So yeah. That. Anyone know what that was and can put it on the page? [[User:PowerPlantRaichu|PowerPlantRaichu]] ([[User talk:PowerPlantRaichu|talk]]) 03:07, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
:No. You aren't the one. Yes, the dojo was on top. Given the servers and computers in the room, I surmise that it could be Game Freak, but the NPC makes me think event possibly. [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] ([[User talk:TruePikachu|talk]]) 09:52, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

==Looker Bureau==
Can somebody put something explaining this? I would, but I do not have the time. It is after you go to Anistar City and receive the Mega Ring upgrade. I would appreciate it, and I will help where I can.--[[User:Darkmaster|Darkmaster]] ([[User talk:Darkmaster|talk]]) 03:40, 26 October 2013 (UTC) As I said, I would do it all, but I have neither the time or the experience to do it. {{unsigned|Darkmaster}}

== On the glitches thing shall we put about this ghost girl? ==

Apparently there's this ghost girl thing which people are talking about. Is this a glitch if so put it on the glitches. I'm not sure if it's a reference to Unova about that girl in the Strange House or just a glitch. If anyone does know can someone either add it in the glitches or make note of it in the trivia section?--[[User:Hydreigonfan1|Hydreigonfan1]] ([[User talk:Hydreigonfan1|talk]]) 18:27, 27 October 2013 (UTC)
:It's pretty clear to me that it's not a glitch. It's just supposed to be a creepy thing they put into the game. --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 18:29, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

:: they put a ghost (or a few) in each game, so far i can remember DPP's house where u can find rotom, there's 2 ghosts there, also the girl in the bridge and in the abandoned house in BWB2B2 --[[User:Cabasho|Cabasho]] 10:06 11 November 2013 (-5 GMT)

== Sushi High Roller requirements ==

Can anyone help verify the requirements to get into Sushi High Roller? I know the only requirement isn't being the Champion, but I know it is one since the NPC that lets you in mentions it. I know there is something else since after becoming Champion, I did a bunch of style stuff and the Looker side quests and got access after that. Someone updated it to say the Looker sidequests are the other prereq, but that seems weird to me. Don't those also increase your style by completing them? Unfortunately, I don't know for a fact if completing that was what gave me access or not. [[User:Linkmastr001|Linkmastr001]] ([[User talk:Linkmastr001|talk]]) 21:39, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

Actually, I had a thought. One thing I did before doing this restaurant was participate in each of the other restaurants, perhaps that is the other requirement? [[User:Linkmastr001|Linkmastr001]] ([[User talk:Linkmastr001|talk]]) 01:48, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

I did that and beat the Elite Four, anyone else had that experience? -[[User:IVsaur|EVsandIVsaurs]] 01:56, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
:"The player needs to have become the Champion, completed the side quest, and have gotten his or her style up in the city."
:So is this meant to refer to the Looker sidequests? Because "the side quest" is completely unclear and I have no idea what I'm supposed to do. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 17:13, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

==Stone Emporium==
Does anyone know whether or not this shop gets more than just Leaf, Fire and Water Stones post game?--[[User:Ditto51|Tom]] ([[User_Talk:Ditto51|My Talk Page]]) 10:16, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
:Doesn't seem to do so. I think that's it unless you get more for becoming a full celebrity in Lumiose. I'm getting close to that stage (Venusarite is only 70,000, once it gets to 10,000 I will know). ☆[[User:Solar Dragon|The]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|Solar]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|Dragon]]☆ 10:23, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

==Sushi High Roller prize==
Has anyone completed a course? If so, what did you get? Apparently it's Big Nuggets, but the quantities are still undetermined on Bulbapedia. -- [[User:Pringles|Pringles]] 01:06, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

havent done it myself but the it says it is imposible to turn out profit from this restaurant... if the info presented here is correct, then its true, but the loss can be lowered to 191760 if using a double money item during the battles (such as an amulet coin). -- [[User:Cabasho|Cabasho]] 10:03 11 November 2013 (-5 GMT)
:Wait... 30k * 25 = 750k; 750k->500k... so what. [[User:Uploader|Uploader]] ([[User talk:Uploader|talk]]) 17:55, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
::Just checked on this, 30,000 for each Big Nugget and a perfect is 25 of them. You make profit since you get over $500,000 when selling... Not sure how you would be ''losing'' profit here. Anyone mind fixing up that trivia error? ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 04:11, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Wrong. In X/Y, you can sell the Big Nuggets for only 10,000 (not 30,000 like in Gen V). Therefore, you do NOT make profit in Sushi High Roller. Here's my result, using Amulet Coin + Prize Money Power lv 2, Triple Battle course.

'''1,454,404''' (my amount of money prior to selecting a course)
-450,000 (entrance cost)

1,004,404 (my amount of money prior to battling)
+18,720
+18,720
+18,720
+18,720
+41,600
+250,000 (10,000 x 25)

I ends up with '''1,370,884''' which means '''a loss'''.
So yeah, '''no''' profit, at least with PMP lv 2. I haven't try PMP lv 3. But if even with Amulet Coin and PMP lv 2 I still get a loss, that clearly means without Amulet Coin and PMP, the loss will be even greater....and even if using PMP lv 3 lets us receive some profit, it's still bad, as you must use the strongest boost just to receive a small amount of profit. Sushi High Roller? More like Sushi High ''Troll''er.[[User:Magnezone|Magnezone]] ([[User talk:Magnezone|talk]]) 01:09, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

:Then let me make a suggestion as to determine this, use Prize Money Power Level 3 + Luck Incense/Amulet Coin(Doesn't seem to stack) + {{m|Happy Hour}}. If that doesn't work, then we will need to say that the only way to make a profit is to use Pay Day to be able to make a profit. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 01:37, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
:: Extrapolating the results from your data.

-450,000 (entrance cost)
+ 56,160 (9,360 is assumed to be the amount with the Amulet Coin, *3 with PMP 3, *2 with Happy Hour)
+ 56,160
+ 56,160
+ 56,160
+ 124,800 (20,800 is assumed to be the amount with the Amulet Coin, *3 with PMP 3, *2 with Happy Hour)
+ 250,000 (250,000 is the normal sell value of 25 Big Nuggets.)
That means the balance should become a net gain of 149,440. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 18:44, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

==Splitting up the article==
Given the current size of the article, and that it's still marked "incomplete," it would probably be a good idea to start giving certain sections their own articles. {{redlink|Hotel Richissime}} should probably be first, as it's currently the most well-developed section. I'm also planning, when I get the time, to transcribe all of the Lumiose Museum audio guides and use them in making a page for that building as well. Any objections or suggestions for further splitting? —[[User:Minimiscience|Minimiscience]] ([[User talk:Minimiscience|talk]]) 00:36, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
:The restaurants use a fair amount of templates, which makes them a pretty good candidate to split off if we're trying to do it for size purposes. I agree that Hotel Richissime can be split off; the Lumiose Museum stuff sounds like it'd be more quote-heavy than content-heavy, so it might be suited more as a subpage of this article than its own article, though that's probably something for a staff member to decide. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 00:41, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
::Lumiose Museum would have a lot of quotes, though (there are 20-30 paintings in it), and some of the paintings appear to be art from previous games that's already on the Archives, so I'd imagine we'd want to include those in the Museum's section/article, making it longer and more article-worthy. —[[User:Minimiscience|Minimiscience]] ([[User talk:Minimiscience|talk]]) 00:51, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
:::Yeah, I'd say this article could certainly use splitting up. The Hotel Richissime and Lumiose Museum getting their own pages would work. Restaurants maybe. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 03:31, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

[[Hotel Richissime]] is now a separate article. —[[User:Minimiscience|Minimiscience]] ([[User talk:Minimiscience|talk]]) 04:19, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

[[Lumiose Museum]] is now an article. The formatting could probably use some work. —[[User:Minimiscience|Minimiscience]] ([[User talk:Minimiscience|talk]]) 09:31, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

==Pokemon Centers==
Should it be noted that Lumiose City is the first and only city in the entire Pokemon World to have more than one Pokemon Center within the city? I'm a bit surprised nobody has brought this up. {{unsigned|Noah★|17:38, 27 December 2013 (UTC)}}
:That's because it's not. [[Ever Grande City]] was the first. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 17:43, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

== Rare Soda and Ultra Rare Soda Evoltuion ==

Ok, so I bought an Ultra Rare Soda (50,000 pokedollars), gave it to my lv 34 Servine which increased its level to lv 39, and she did not evolve. Is this possibly only Ultra Rare Soda, or does also raise level but does not invoke evolution?[[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 06:50, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

== Restaurants ==

Has anyone really figured out how the restaurants are scored aside from number of turns and Pokémon fainted? For some reason, I actually got 24 Balm Mushrooms in Le Wow when I completed the entire Double Battle course in 10 turns and no faints, but actually got a ''smaller'' reward (around 19-21) when I completed the entire thing in one turn per battle. From what I've seen, at least, you seem to get a better reward for getting closer to the designated turn count over taken the least possible amount of turns. This really doesn't seem right and I'm starting to think that there is more to the scoring. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy (瀬藤健二)]] ([[User talk:Schiffy|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|Contribs]]) 22:01,1/13/2014 (UTC)
:I don't see what you're having an issue with... You're not supposed to go for the least possible amount of turns, since the point is to hit the target number of turns ''exactly''. Going over ''or'' under will detract from the reward, and I think the article's pretty clear about that. Unless I've misunderstood your question? [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 03:52, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
::"For each faint or turn difference, the player will receive one less of the reward item." - Ignore me, I'm stupid and I can't read. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy (瀬藤健二)]] ([[User talk:Schiffy|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|Contribs]]) 05:16,1/14/2014 (UTC)

==Discount Coupon==
So, from what I gathered from the PGL and my game, the Discount Coupon seems to have the following properties:
:#They cost zero Poké Miles
:#They can be used one time at {{tt|''any'' Boutique|it's mentioned on this page already, hence why I'm using this talk page}} (seemingly on one item, but that also might be one full transaction); and give you 50% off
:#They can be sold to a Poké Mart for {{PD}}10
:#They can only be obtained once
:#They go in the main Items slot
:#They have the following description: "This special coupon allows you to buy items at a discount when you are shopping at a boutique."
I can't seem to find a page of (non key) items introduced in Gen VI if there is one, so I'm leaving the information here in hopes of finding said page. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy (瀬藤健二)]] ([[User talk:Schiffy|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|Contribs]]) 19:52,1/15/2014 (UTC)
:Wouldn't it fit best in [[exchangeable item]]s? It's only function is to be exchanged after all. And I recall the Bulbanews article saying you could buy multiple items. [[User:Glik|Glik]] ([[User talk:Glik|talk]]) 21:10, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
::Well, to start off, I set it up [[Bulbapedia:Sandbox#Discount Coupon|here]], since there's still a few things missing, for sure. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy (瀬藤健二)]] ([[User talk:Schiffy|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|Contribs]]) 23:01,1/15/2014 (UTC)

== Soft Resetting Changes the Menu in the Juice Shoppe ==

So, I discovered soft resetting changes the Juice Shoppe Menu to some degree under certain circumstances.

I was leveling up two 5IV Charmander (one Impish, one Careful) to see which had the best Attack of the two (Only HP, Def, Sp.Atk, Sp. Def and Speed are 31IV)

Well I used rare candies while in Kiloude City to get them the first one (Impish) to level 21, then I flew to Lumiose City to see if the Juice Shoppe was selling Rare or Ultra Rare Soda. I know its a gamble, but it paid of, they were selling Rare Soda for 20k. So that got it to level 23.

I soft reset, repeated the rare candies and then flew from Kiloude to Lumiose and when I got to the Juice Shoppe, the Rare Soda was now 50k Ultra Rare Soda, which was surprising. So I was able to get the Careful Charmander to level 26 instead of lv 23 like I had the Impish one.

I have saved and then soft reset before inside the shoppe and the menu stayed the same. This time however I had saved in Kiloude and flew back to the Juice Shoppe. If I were to guess, I would assume that the menu changes based on similar math that a roaming Pokémon's route changes. This needs further investigation, but if proven to some degree, would soft resetting to change the menu be worth noting in the article/Juice Shoppe section? [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 15:57, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
:Well, I screwed up in my attempt to investigate this further, but it wasn't a total lost.

:So after I soft reset and flew back to the Juice Shoppe, the menu changed again, this time to the 20k rare soda and a 40k Ultra rare soda and a pink 2100 juice. I saved after seeing these items, now the menu is stuck as that..so it seems as long as you save before you find out the menu, it is not locked in and can be changed with further soft resets. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 16:04, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

==Restaurant Stars==
It mentions in the article that if you complete the selected option for battling (Double, Triple, Rotation, ect) and get a perfect score, then a star appears next to that option. However do these stars actually do anything? Like if I completed all of them perfectly, would I get a discount or something important like that? [[User:Darkcloud1111|'''''Darkcloud1111''''']][[User talk:Darkcloud1111|'''~Fastest Hero Alive''']] 20:44, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
:I think its mostly a Aesthetic badge of honor showing that you've achieved the goal for that battle option. I've noticed no change outside of that in terms of price or prize money.[[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 21:43, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
::I have just got perfect scores/stars in every battle type in all 4 restaurants and it doesn't seem to do anything other that allow you to tip that restaurant $10,000 and have the person that serves you at the counter have different dialog (treating you like a regular customer). I though it might add a star/change the color of my Trainer Card, but I guess not! --[[User:Evacino|'''evacino''']][[User talk:Evacino|''' (talk)''']] 15:49, 17 February 2014 (GMT)

==Do Cookies Go With Milk?==
I've been buying Lumiose Galettes for a LONG time, and I've never received a Moomoo Milk. [[User:NerfPlayeR135|NerfPlayeR135]] ([[User talk:NerfPlayeR135|talk]]) 00:25, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
:I think you only get the Moomoo Milk if you buy a Galette within an hour of a sale starting (i.e., from 3 to 4 or from 9 to 10), and even then I think you only get one per day. —[[User:Minimiscience|Minimiscience]] ([[User talk:Minimiscience|talk]]) 16:08, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

== Help Needed Roseli Berry used in Ultra Rare Soda it seems, whats the other berry? ==

So, I saw a image of a snapshot taken of the Roseli berry's official guide entry, and it states the berry newcomer is one of the ingredients needed to make Ultra Rare Soda.

It took me a 1 hour and 10 minutes but I tested each combination of Roseli berry with the berries I have, and none worked.

The only berries I have yet to test are...
Starf Berry (which is needed to make normal Rare Soda)
Enigma Berry
Micle Berry
Custap Berry
Jaboca Berry
Rowap Berry

Those six berries I do not possess, so testing them on my side is impossible. so could someone test the other berries if possible? [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 06:21, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
:I'm sure we spoke about this in the forums today, but I forgot to mention that I am willing to try to get my hands on a Starf so I can test it out (unless if someone else has tested it). We'd have to wait on the other 5 Berries you listed since they aren't available in X and Y yet. [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 01:45, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
::yes we did, hopefully we can test this soon. As for the other 5, I was wondering about how we even know if those are in the game or not. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 02:06, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
:::Good news: I got my hands on a Starf, and I have plenty of Roseli, so I can test. However, the combination gives a Mixed Shake. Once the other 5 are made available, we can test those. [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 02:45, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
Ok thank you, that sure helps. Well lets hope the other berries are released soon. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 05:12, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

==Restaurant Template==
Should we switch the current trainer template in those restaurants to the template which features Pokémon moves? (I don't know what's that called)
It is better to know their moves, so we could somehow prepare in advance to earn the stars. --[[User:Yukyankee|Yukyankee]] ([[User talk:Yukyankee|talk]]) 16:03, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

==Style & Tiers==
SciresM went and figured out how style works, and at what Style decreases Mega Stone prices. If you want a table of it for here, read more at ProjectPokemon [http://projectpokemon.org/forums/showthread.php?37269-X-Y-Save-File-Research#post181290]. [[User:Kaphotics|Kaphotics]] ([[User talk:Kaphotics|talk]]) 01:15, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

==Pokemon Center Poke Miles shop, Heart Scale?==
I just moved a shop listing for items exchangeable for Poke Miles to this page. In the process, I deleted an entry for Heart Scales that was [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pok%C3%A9_Mile&oldid=2084166 previously] included in the shop. I doubt this is true (in [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dm4g370aCrw a YouTube video] of someone who's beaten the Elite Four, it doesn't appear on their list of items; I can't readily imagine any circumstance that might add Heart Scales to that shop, then), but I just wanted to leave this note so maybe other people could check it on their games. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:28, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
::No HeartScale from the guy's menu, only acquirable thru the global link shop [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 05:40, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

== Juice Shoppe Berry Mixing Research ==

Ok, so right now I am researching and collecting data on mixing red berries together to see how strong the juice they make is.

Results so far

{| class="roundy" style="border: 2px solid #111111; background:#555555; margin-right: 5px; margin-bottom: 5px"
|-
! colspan="2" rowspan="2" |
! colspan="10" style="{{roundytr|5px}} background:#999999" | Second Berry
|-
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Cheri Berry Sprite.png]]
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Leppa Berry Sprite.png]]
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Figy Berry Sprite.png]]
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Pomeg Berry Sprite.png]]
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Tamato Berry Sprite.png]]
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Occa Berry Sprite.png]]
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Chople Berry Sprite.png]]
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Haban Berry Sprite.png]]
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Liechi Berry Sprite.png]]
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Lansat Berry Sprite.png]]
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! rowspan="10" style="background:#999999" | F i r s t B e r r y
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Cheri Berry Sprite.png]]
| 4
| 8
| 16
| 16
| 16
| N/A
| 12
| 12
| 16
| 16
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Leppa Berry Sprite.png]]
| 8
| 4
| 16
| 16
| 16
| N/A
| 12
| 12
| 16
| 16
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Figy Berry Sprite.png]]
| 16
| 16
| 12
| 32
| 32
| N/A
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Pomeg Berry Sprite.png]]
| 16
| 16
| 32
| 12
| 32
| N/A
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Tamato Berry Sprite.png]]
| 16
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 12
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Occa Berry Sprite.png]]
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Chople Berry Sprite.png]]
| 12
| 12
| 32
| 32
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Haban Berry Sprite.png]]
| 12
| 12
| 32
| 32
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Liechi Berry Sprite.png]]
| 16
| 16
| 32
| 32
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Lansat Berry Sprite.png]]
| 16
| 16
| 32
| 32
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
|-
| colspan="12" style="{{roundybottom|5px}}; background:#999999" |
|}{{-}}

Since making a chart with all 50+ available in-game berries would be too hard (I tried, I wanted to go on a murderous rampage using a kantana followed by Hari kari) this seems to be the best way to show the effects of mixing each berries, at least within the same color group. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 08:49, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

:Ok, here is a updated red berry chart and the charts for the other berries. The colored numbers will be explained later down...

Red Berry Chart
{| class="roundy" style="text-align:center; font-size:90%; border: 2px solid #111; background:#555; margin-right: 5px; margin-bottom: 5px"
|-
! colspan="2" rowspan="2" |
! colspan="10" style="{{roundytr|5px}} background:#999; font-size:111%" | Second Berry
|- style="background:#FF5656"
! [[File:Bag Cheri Berry Sprite.png|link=Cheri Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Leppa Berry Sprite.png|link=Leppa Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Figy Berry Sprite.png|link=Figy Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Pomeg Berry Sprite.png|link=Pomeg Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Tamato Berry Sprite.png|link=Tamato Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Occa Berry Sprite.png|link=Occa Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Chople Berry Sprite.png|link=Chople Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Haban Berry Sprite.png|link=Haban Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Liechi Berry Sprite.png|link=Liechi Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Lansat Berry Sprite.png|link=Lansat Berry]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
! rowspan="10" style="background:#999" | F i r s t B e r r y
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Cheri Berry Sprite.png|link=Cheri Berry]]
| style="background:#FF8989" | 4
| 8
| 16
| 16
| 16
| 12
| 12
| 12
| 16
| 16
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Leppa Berry Sprite.png|link=Leppa Berry]]
| 8
| style="background:#FF8989" | 4
| 16
| 16
| 16
| 12
| 12
| 12
| 16
| 16
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Figy Berry Sprite.png|link=Figy Berry]]
| 16
| 16
| style="background:#FF5656" | 12
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Pomeg Berry Sprite.png|link=Pomeg Berry]]
| 16
| 16
| 32
| style="background:#FF5656" | 12
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Tamato Berry Sprite.png|link=Tamato Berry]]
| 16
| 16
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#FF5656" | 12
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Occa Berry Sprite.png|link=Occa Berry]]
| 12
| 12
| 32
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#FF7070" | 8
| 16
| 16
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Chople Berry Sprite.png|link=Chople Berry]]
| 12
| 12
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 16
| style="background:#FF7070" | 8
| 16
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Haban Berry Sprite.png|link=Haban Berry]]
| 12
| 12
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 16
| 16
| style="background:#FF7070" | 8
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Liechi Berry Sprite.png|link=Liechi Berry]]
| 16
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#FF5656" | 12
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Lansat Berry Sprite.png|link=Lansat Berry]]
| 16
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#FF5656" | 12
|-
| colspan="12" style="{{roundybottom|5px}}; background:#999" |
|}{{-}}

Purple Berry Chart
{| class="roundy" style="text-align:center; font-size:90%; border: 2px solid #111; background:#555; margin-right: 5px; margin-bottom: 5px"
|-
! colspan="2" rowspan="2" |
! colspan="6" style="{{roundytr|5px}} background:#999; font-size:111%" | Second Berry
|- style="background:#b154ba"
! [[File:Bag Chesto Berry Sprite.png|link=Chesto Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Wiki Berry Sprite.png|link=Wiki Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Payapa Berry Sprite.png|link=Payapa Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Kasib Berry Sprite.png|link=Kasib Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Colbur Berry Sprite.png|link=Colbur Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Ganlon Berry Sprite.png|link=Ganlon Berry]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
! rowspan="6" style="background:#999" | F i r s t B e r r y
! style="background:#b154ba" | [[File:Bag Chesto Berry Sprite.png|link=Chesto Berry]]
| style="background:#c278c9" | 4
| 16
| 12
| 12
| 12
| 16
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#b154ba" | [[File:Bag Wiki Berry Sprite.png|link=Wiki Berry]]
| 16
| style="background:#b154ba" | 12
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#b154ba" | [[File:Bag Payapa Berry Sprite.png|link=Payapa Berry]]
| 12
| 32
| style="background:#b966c1" | 8
| 16
| 16
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#b154ba" | [[File:Bag Kasib Berry Sprite.png|link=Kasib Berry]]
| 12
| 32
| 16
| style="background:#b966c1" | 8
| 16
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#b154ba" | [[File:Bag Colbur Berry Sprite.png|link=Colbur Berry]]
| 12
| 32
| 16
| 16
| style="background:#b966c1" | 8
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#b154ba" | [[File:Bag Ganlon Berry Sprite.png|link=Ganlon Berry]]
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#b154ba" | 12
|-
| colspan="8" style="{{roundybottom|5px}}; background:#999" |
|}{{-}}

Pink Berry Chart
{| class="roundy" style="text-align:center; font-size:90%; border: 2px solid #111; background:#555; margin-right: 5px; margin-bottom: 5px"
|-
! colspan="2" rowspan="2" |
! colspan="5" style="{{roundytr|5px}} background:#999; font-size:111%" | Second Berry
|- style="background:#{{fairy color}}"
! [[File:Bag Pecha Berry Sprite.png|link=Pecha Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Persim Berry Sprite.png|link=Persim Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Mago Berry Sprite.png|link=Mago Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Petaya Berry Sprite.png|link=Petaya Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Roseli Berry Sprite.png|link=Roseli Berry]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
! rowspan="5" style="background:#999" | F i r s t B e r r y
! style="background:#{{fairy color}}" | [[File:Bag Pecha Berry Sprite.png|link=Pecha Berry]]
| style="background:#f8d3db" | 4
| 12
| 16
| 16
| 16
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#{{fairy color}}" | [[File:Bag Persim Berry Sprite.png|link=Persim Berry]]
| 12
| style="background:#{{fairy color light}}" | 8
| 32
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#{{fairy color}}" | [[File:Bag Mago Berry Sprite.png|link=Mago Berry]]
| 16
| 32
| style="background:#{{fairy color}}" | 12
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#{{fairy color}}" | [[File:Bag Petaya Berry Sprite.png|link=Petaya Berry]]
| 16
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#{{fairy color}}" | 12
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#{{fairy color}}" | [[File:Bag Roseli Berry Sprite.png|link=Roseli Berry]]
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#{{fairy color}}" | 12
|-
| colspan="9" style="{{roundybottom|5px}}; background:#999" |
|}{{-}}

Green Berry Chart
{| class="roundy" style="text-align:center; font-size:90%; border: 2px solid #111; background:#555; margin-right: 5px; margin-bottom: 5px"
|-
! colspan="2" rowspan="2" |
! colspan="10" style="{{roundytr|5px}} background:#999; font-size:111%" | Second Berry
|- style="background:#56FF56"
! [[File:Bag Rawst Berry Sprite.png|link=Rawst Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Lum Berry Sprite.png|link=Lum Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Aguav Berry Sprite.png|link=Aguav Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Hondew Berry Sprite.png|link=Hondew Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Rindo Berry Sprite.png|link=Rindo Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Kebia Berry Sprite.png|link=Kebia Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Tanga Berry Sprite.png|link=Tanga Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Babiri Berry Sprite.png|link=Babiri Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Salac Berry Sprite.png|link=Salac Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Starf Berry Sprite.png|link=Starf Berry]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
! rowspan="10" style="background:#999" | F i r s t B e r r y
! style="background:#56FF56" | [[File:Bag Rawst Berry Sprite.png|link=Rawst Berry]]
| style="background:#89FF98" | 4
| 12
| 16
| 16
| 12
| 12
| 12
| 12
| 16
| 16
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#56FF56" | [[File:Bag Lum Berry Sprite.png|link=Lum Berry]]
| 12
| style="background:#70FF70" | 8
| 32
| 32
| 16
| 16
| 16
| 16
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#56FF56" | [[File:Bag Aguav Berry Sprite.png|link=Aguav Berry]]
| 16
| 32
| style="background:#56FF56" | 12
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#56FF56" | [[File:Bag Hondew Berry Sprite.png|link=Hondew Berry]]
| 16
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#56FF56" | 12
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#56FF56" | [[File:Bag Rindo Berry Sprite.png|link=Rindo Berry]]
| 12
| 16
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#70FF70" | 8
| 16
| 16
| 16
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#56FF56" | [[File:Bag Kebia Berry Sprite.png|link=Kebia Berry]]
| 12
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 16
| style="background:#70FF70" | 8
| 16
| 16
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#56FF56" | [[File:Bag Tanga Berry Sprite.png|link=Tanga Berry]]
| 12
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 16
| 16
| style="background:#70FF70" | 8
| 16
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#56FF56" | [[File:Bag Babiri Berry Sprite.png|link=Babiri Berry]]
| 12
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 16
| 16
| 16
| style="background:#70FF70" | 8
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#56FF56" | [[File:Bag Salac Berry Sprite.png|link=Salac Berry]]
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#56FF56" | 12
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#56FF56" | [[File:Bag Starf Berry Sprite.png|link=Starf Berry]]
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#56FF56" | 12
|-
| colspan="12" style="{{roundybottom|5px}}; background:#999" |
|}{{-}}

Yellow Berry Chart
{| class="roundy" style="text-align:center; font-size:90%; border: 2px solid #111; background:#555; margin-right: 5px; margin-bottom: 5px"
|-
! colspan="2" rowspan="2" |
! colspan="10" style="{{roundytr|5px}} background:#999; font-size:111%" | Second Berry
|- style="background:#FFFF56"
! [[File:Bag Aspear Berry Sprite.png|link=Aspear Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Sitrus Berry Sprite.png|link=Sitrus Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Iapapa Berry Sprite.png|link=Iapapa Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Qualot Berry Sprite.png|link=Qualot Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Grepa Berry Sprite.png|link=Grepa Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Wacan Berry Sprite.png|link=Wacan Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Shuca Berry Sprite.png|link=Shuca Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Charti Berry Sprite.png|link=Charti Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Chilan Berry Sprite.png|link=Chilan Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Kee Berry Sprite.png|link=Kee Berry]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
! rowspan="10" style="background:#999" | F i r s t B e r r y
! style="background:#FFFF56" | [[File:Bag Aspear Berry Sprite.png|link=Aspear Berry]]
| style="background:#FFFFa3" | 4
| 12
| 16
| 16
| 16
| 12
| 12
| 12
| 12
| 16
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FFFF56" | [[File:Bag Sitrus Berry Sprite.png|link=Sitrus Berry]]
| 12
| style="background:#FFFF89" | 8
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 16
| 16
| 16
| 16
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FFFF56" | [[File:Bag Iapapa Berry Sprite.png|link=Iapapa Berry]]
| 16
| 32
| style="background:#FFFF56" | 12
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FFFF56" | [[File:Bag Qualot Berry Sprite.png|link=Qualot Berry]]
| 16
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#FFFF56" | 12
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FFFF56" | [[File:Bag Grepa Berry Sprite.png|link=Grepa Berry]]
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#FFFF56" | 12
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FFFF56" | [[File:Bag Wacan Berry Sprite.png|link=Wacan Berry]]
| 12
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#FFFF89" | 8
| 16
| 16
| 16
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FFFF56" | [[File:Bag Shuca Berry Sprite.png|link=Shuca Berry]]
| 12
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 16
| style="background:#FFFF89" | 8
| 16
| 16
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FFFF56" | [[File:Bag Charti Berry Sprite.png|link=Charti Berry]]
| 12
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 16
| 16
| style="background:#FFFF89" | 8
| 16
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FFFF56" | [[File:Bag Chilan Berry Sprite.png|link=Chilan Berry]]
| 12
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 16
| 16
| 16
| style="background:#FFFF89" | 8
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FFFF56" | [[File:Bag Kee Berry Sprite.png|link=Kee Berry]]
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#FFFF56" | 12
|-
| colspan="12" style="{{roundybottom|5px}}; background:#999" |
|}{{-}}

Blue Berry Chart
{| class="roundy" style="text-align:center; font-size:90%; border: 2px solid #111; background:#555; margin-right: 5px; margin-bottom: 5px"
|-
! colspan="2" rowspan="2" |
! colspan="7" style="{{roundytr|5px}} background:#999; font-size:111%" | Second Berry
|- style="background:#5656ff"
! [[File:Bag Oran Berry Sprite.png|link=Oran Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Kelpsy Berry Sprite.png|link=Kelpsy Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Passho Berry Sprite.png|link=Passho Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Yache Berry Sprite.png|link=Yache Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Coba Berry Sprite.png|link=Coba Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Apicot Berry Sprite.png|link=Apicot Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Maranga Berry Sprite.png|link=Maranga Berry]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
! rowspan="7" style="background:#999" | F i r s t B e r r y
! style="background:#5656ff" | [[File:Bag Oran Berry Sprite.png|link=Oran Berry]]
| style="background:#8989ff" | 4
| 16
| 12
| 12
| 12
| 16
| 16
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#5656ff" | [[File:Bag Kelpsy Berry Sprite.png|link=Kelpsy Berry]]
| 16
| style="background:#5656ff" | 12
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#5656ff" | [[File:Bag Passho Berry Sprite.png|link=Passho Berry]]
| 12
| 32
| style="background:#7070ff" | 8
| 16
| 16
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#5656ff" | [[File:Bag Yache Berry Sprite.png|link=Yache Berry]]
| 12
| 32
| 16
| style="background:#7070ff" | 8
| 16
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#5656ff" | [[File:Bag Coba Berry Sprite.png|link=Coba Berry]]
| 12
| 32
| 16
| 16
| style="background:#7070ff" | 8
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#5656ff" | [[File:Bag Apicot Berry Sprite.png|link=Apicot Berry]]
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#5656ff" | 12
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#5656ff" | [[File:Bag Maranga Berry Sprite.png|link=Maranga Berry]]
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#5656ff" | 12
|-
| colspan="9" style="{{roundybottom|5px}}; background:#999" |
|}{{-}}

:Thank to a collaboration with '''Tiddlywinks''' it has been discovered that berries, no mater the color, can be cataloged into 3 groups based on one single property, the strength of the juice they make when mixed with themselves.

:Group 1 berries will always result in a 4 when mixed with themselves, group 2 berries a 8 and group 3 a 12. No currently known berry will result in a 16 or 32 when mixed with itself. On the charts above, I have marked all berry group indicators by a color, I also believe this helps a person better follow the flow of the chart since plain white can kind of blur into a wall of text.

:Berry groups will also always result in the same berry juice strength when mixed with another (different) berry of the same color in the same group. Group 1 berries will always result in a strength of 8 when mixed with another group 1 berry. They will also result in a 16 or a 12 when mixed with a group 2 or group 3 berry respectively. Group 2 berries will always result in 16 when mixed with another group 2 berry, and a 32 when mixed with any group 3 berry. Whenever 2 group 3 berries are mixed, the result is always 32.

:These two charts can better illustrate the berry groups and their mixing results.

{| class="roundy" style="text-align:center; border: 2px solid #111; background:#555; margin-right: 5px; margin-bottom: 5px" cellpadding="2px"
! colspan=3 style="background:#999; {{roundytop|5px}}" | Berry Groups
|- style="background:#{{steel color}}"
! 1
! 2
! 3
|- style="background:#FF5656"
| [[File:Bag Cheri Berry Sprite.png|link=Cheri Berry]] [[File:Bag Leppa Berry Sprite.png|link=Leppa Berry]]
| [[File:Bag Occa Berry Sprite.png|link=Occa Berry]] [[File:Bag Chople Berry Sprite.png|link=Chople Berry]] [[File:Bag Haban Berry Sprite.png|link=Haban Berry]]
| [[File:Bag Figy Berry Sprite.png|link=Figy Berry]] [[File:Bag Pomeg Berry Sprite.png|link=Pomeg Berry]] [[File:Bag Tamato Berry Sprite.png|link=Tamato Berry]] [[File:Bag Liechi Berry Sprite.png|link=Liechi Berry]] [[File:Bag Lansat Berry Sprite.png|link=Lansat Berry]]
|- style="background:#B154BA"
| [[File:Bag Chesto Berry Sprite.png|link=Chesto Berry]]
| [[File:Bag Payapa Berry Sprite.png|link=Payapa Berry]] [[File:Bag Kasib Berry Sprite.png|link=Kasib Berry]] [[File:Bag Colbur Berry Sprite.png|link=Colbur Berry]]
| [[File:Bag Wiki Berry Sprite.png|link=Wiki Berry]] [[File:Bag Ganlon Berry Sprite.png|link=Ganlon Berry]]
|- style="background:#{{fairy color}}"
| [[File:Bag Pecha Berry Sprite.png|link=Pecha Berry]]
| [[File:Bag Persim Berry Sprite.png|link=Persim Berry]]
| [[File:Bag Mago Berry Sprite.png|link=Mago Berry]] [[File:Bag Petaya Berry Sprite.png|link=Petaya Berry]] [[File:Bag Roseli Berry Sprite.png|link=Roseli Berry]]
|- style="background:#56FF56"
| [[File:Bag Rawst Berry Sprite.png|link=Rawst Berry]]
| [[File:Bag Lum Berry Sprite.png|link=Lum Berry]] [[File:Bag Rindo Berry Sprite.png|link=Rindo Berry]] [[File:Bag Kebia Berry Sprite.png|link=Kebia Berry]] [[File:Bag Tanga Berry Sprite.png|link=Tanga Berry]] [[File:Bag Babiri Berry Sprite.png|link=Babiri Berry]]
| [[File:Bag Aguav Berry Sprite.png|link=Aguav Berry]] [[File:Bag Hondew Berry Sprite.png|link=Hondew Berry]] [[File:Bag Salac Berry Sprite.png|link=Salac Berry]] [[File:Bag Starf Berry Sprite.png|link=Starf Berry]]
|-
| style="background:#FFFF56" | [[File:Bag Aspear Berry Sprite.png|link=Aspear Berry]]
| style="background:#FFFF56" | [[File:Bag Sitrus Berry Sprite.png|link=Sitrus Berry]] [[File:Bag Wacan Berry Sprite.png|link=Wacan Berry]] [[File:Bag Shuca Berry Sprite.png|link=Shuca Berry]] [[File:Bag Charti Berry Sprite.png|link=Charti Berry]] [[File:Bag Chilan Berry Sprite.png|link=Chilan Berry]]
| style="background:#FFFF56" | [[File:Bag Iapapa Berry Sprite.png|link=Iapapa Berry]] [[File:Bag Qualot Berry Sprite.png|link=Qualot Berry]] [[File:Bag Grepa Berry Sprite.png|link=Grepa Berry]] [[File:Bag Kee Berry Sprite.png|link=Kee Berry]]
|- style="background:#5656FF"
| [[File:Bag Oran Berry Sprite.png|link=Oran Berry]]
| [[File:Bag Passho Berry Sprite.png|link=Passho Berry]] [[File:Bag Yache Berry Sprite.png|link=Yache Berry]] [[File:Bag Coba Berry Sprite.png|link=Coba Berry]]
| [[File:Bag Kelpsy Berry Sprite.png|link=Kelpsy Berry]] [[File:Bag Apicot Berry Sprite.png|link=Apicot Berry]] [[File:Bag Maranga Berry Sprite.png|link=Maranga Berry]]
|-
|}{{-}}
{| class="roundy" style="text-align:center; border: 2px solid #111; background:#555; margin-right: 5px; margin-bottom: 5px"
!
! style="background:#{{steel color}}" | Group 1
! style="background:#{{steel color}}" | Group 2
! style="background:#{{steel color}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Group 3
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#{{steel color}}" | Group 1
| {{tt|4|Mixing two of the same berry}}-8 || 16 || 12
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#{{steel color}}" | Group 2
| 16 || {{tt|8|Mixing two of the same berry}}-16 || 32
|-
! style="background:#{{steel color}}; {{roundybl|5px}}" | Group 3
| style="background:#FFF" | 12
| style="background:#FFF" | 32
| style="background:#FFF; {{roundybr|5px}}" | {{tt|12|Mixing two of the same berry}}-32
|}{{-}}

I'm not sure what the best way to relay this message is, but hopefully this can help educate people on how best to get the most out of their berry mixes and better EV train their Pokémon to the specifications of their choice.[[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 21:21, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

:Some of this information seems to be incorrect. Specifically, values received from mixing two different groups of berries. Just now, I attempted to mix two Yellow berries, one Aspear (Group 1) and one Sitrus (Group 2), seeing that mixing a Group 1 and a Group 2 would give better results than mixing a Group 1 and a Group 3. However, I only actually received 12 EVs from the resulting shake, not 16. I then confirmed that those two berries were in the groups they're stated to be in by mixing two of the same, and finally tested mixing a Group 1 and a Group 3, which resulted in 16 EVs. It seems the values for mixing between groups is reversed, which would make more sense anyway.

:Also, your original set of charts seems to agree with my findings, showing an Aspear plus a Sitrus as giving 12, and Group 1 plus Group 3 berries giving 16. It seems something just got lost in the translation to the new charts. [[User:True Hitoare|True Hitoare]] ([[User talk:True Hitoare|talk]]) 06:35, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

==Juice Shoppe split==
I plan to add a big table (or tables, not sure right now) describing exactly what results you get for mixing what Berries to the Juice Shoppe. At that point, it's really better off as its own page. If you'd like an idea, the data may end up something like the chart at the end of [[User talk:Tiddlywinks#Could you spellcheck this Chart please?|this section]], or it may end up more like the first rainbow-colored chart in the middle of that section. (I can appreciate if you might feel like critiquing those charts, but please understand they are works in progress.)

I don't think there's any overriding need for much of the Juice Shoppe section to be on this page. A little summary with a "main" link to the separate page should be just fine. If you want to know about the Juice Shoppe - especially if we're giving all the exact mixing results - then it's really better off as its own page rather than as a section of Lumiose City. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:13, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

:I think given the complexity of mixing berries, a article for the Juice Shoppe would be appropriate.

:I was looking at the Juice Shoppe section, comparing it to the other sections, and it throws off the flow of the page. It has more info in it than two of the other sections combined. It seems so out of place and bulgy compared to the other sections that consist of a simple introductory sentence or paragraph.

:Plus, once we figure out how best to implement some table(s) in order to illustrate the data, it will become even more bulky. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 20:15, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
::Could you develop a page on your userpage so we can have a general idea of how it will look and such before we make a final decision about the split? '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 21:07, 11 April 2014 (UTC)
:::...A general idea? That's easy enough. '''[[User:Tiddlywinks/Juice Shoppe|Here]]'''. Do understand that I deliver what you asked for: the general idea. I don't at the moment have all the information I want for that page (notably, "extremely"/"really" are basically placeholders for hard numbers), and without that, I don't really feel like I can make it "complete", so past a certain point (e.g., color scheme...) I won't even try yet. I am not satisfied with that as an end product, but I also don't like waiting, so I hope you can make a decision off of that "general idea". I'm entirely open to suggestions or comments. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:07, 11 April 2014 (UTC)
::::After discussion with some of the other staff, we'd like to see a more finalized version of the draft you made before we give the final thumbs up for the split. Suggestion wise, I think a picture or two would be beneficial to help make the page "pop" a little more. I like the direction the page is headed in though and hope to follow up on it after it's developed a bit more. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 03:31, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
:::::Another user filled in the data I most needed, so I finally decided to put more work into this. I don't know how you expected me to add any pictures when this whole site is fishing for anything it can use, so instead, I [[User:Tiddlywinks/Juice Shoppe|decided to rework it]] so the information is laid out more evenly.
:::::I've still put off choosing a cohesive color scheme, but except for that (and the missing friendship data for the <Color> Juices), I consider that page complete, so I'd appreciate it if you could say whether (color scheme aside) that'd be worth a thumbs up now.
:::::...Actually, I'm also not sure what categories to give it, so maybe you could suggest (or add) a few? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:58, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
I went ahead and added some info on the berry groups and whatnot to the article's Juice Shoppe section. My worse fear was that it would make that section bulky, and I was right. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 00:39, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

:I agree wholeheartedly about the split. The Juice Shoppe section is too large. [[User:Mr. Guye|Mr. Guye]] ([[User talk:Mr. Guye|talk]]) 17:47, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

==Demographics==
Just wondering, but does anybody know what the population of Lumiose City is, because I noticed a lack of demographics section and a population number in the Kalos Region page. {{unsigned|Zallaraxium}}
:Would the disappearing pedestrians be counted? {{ci|Castelia}} has them too and yet has a stated population of 127. I would think only stationary residents are counted. --[[User:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|The]]Very[[User talk:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|Best]] 04:44, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
::I would think so, I wouldn't really know as I a new here. [[User:Zallaraxium|Zallaraxium]] ([[User talk:Zallaraxium|talk]]) 10:59, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
:::Taxi drivers count too. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 15:16, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
::::It has been added now, 416 people, that easily dwarfs all of the oter large cities [[User:Zallaraxium|Zallaraxium]] ([[User talk:Zallaraxium|talk]]) 20:07, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

==Pearl Strings and Furfrou styling==
So, I'm on a solid 18 days straight with my lovely Furfrou, and I'm not actually given any Pearl Strings by the only Madame in the shop. I must ask, where was this information gained? I believe it may be false. I can't seem to find good proof, but perhaps someone else can test this? [[User:Thieverpedia|Thieverpedia]] ([[User talk:Thieverpedia|talk]]) 23:28, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
:The article states that the Pearl Strings are from a Madame in Café Woof, not Friseur Furfrou (which is next door). Are you sure you're looking in the correct building? —[[User:Minimiscience|Minimiscience]] ([[User talk:Minimiscience|talk]]) 15:37, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
:Ah. That was the problem. I must have missed it when I was reading the small text on my tablet. Thanks for clearing that up! [[User:Thieverpedia|Thieverpedia]] ([[User talk:Thieverpedia|talk]]) 04:51, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

==Stylishness Redirects?==
I realise that there's already a redirect for "style", linking to the 'Style' section of this article, but should there also be redirects for 'Stylish' and 'Stylishness' to make them easier to find? Just an idea. [[User:Ben10do|–Ben10do]] ([[User talk:Ben10do|talk]]) 17:41, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
:Not to mention a table explaining how Style works, which is info we've had since [http://projectpokemon.org/forums/showthread.php?37269-X-Y-Save-File-Research#post181290 February…] --[[User:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|The]]Very[[User talk:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|Best]] 04:44, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

==Stone Emporium's Mega Stone==
I picked Bulbasaur as my Kanto starter and this article makes it seem like I can buy either Charizardite X or Blastoisinite now and the other in the post-game. However, the NPC will only sell me Charizardite X. I'm pretty sure this means that you actually have no choice in the order of Mega Stones, and that the first buyable one is for the starter with the advantage over yours, but I came here first as a formality. {{tt|If|another formality}} I'm right, this distinction needs to be stated in the {{DL|Lumiose City|Stone Emporium}} section. Furthermore, these Mega Stones aren't shown anywhere in the items section, only the ones given by Prof. Sycamore. They [[Lumiose City#Stone Emporium 2|belong here]] in a separate table that explains that they are sold by the elderly man in the Emporium, not the clerk, and with the aforementioned restrictions. --[[User:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|The]]Very[[User talk:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|Best]] 04:44, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
:Actually, I think I chose Squirtle (I already had Fennekin) and I'm being given the Venusaurite first. I think you are correct. Though it would have someone with Charizard chosen first to confirm this since it could also be going in stone order, with the Venusaurite first unless already claimed by choosing Bulbasaur. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 15:21, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

== Style/lottery ==

I just added data for style (thanks in part to info from a link above). I've not proceeded to (or especially near) the post-game as yet, so I couldn't add data for stuff like Sushi High Roller, but there's one really big question that stands out...style increases for the lottery.

When I didn't get any match at the lottery, I got 0 style. When I only matched 1 digit, I got 1 style. ...I don't know about any higher matches right now; while it'd make sense if the style increase equals the size of the match, that's just a guess right now. The big problem here is that it seems lotto numbers don't soft reset easily. So it'd be a big help if anyone who doesn't have max style could try the lotto and see how much style is increased if they get a 2-digit or larger match. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:28, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

== Is there really a Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}40,000? ==

Ok, this has been bugging me for a while now. Can someone verify if there really is a Rare Soda (Not Ultra Rare Soda) that costs {{pokedollar}}40,000 and increases level by 4?

I've run across lots of {{pokedollar}}30,000 Rare Sodas from the man, but I can't recall running into a {{pokedollar}}40,000 Rare Soda, Only Ultra Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}40,000.

It kind of seems pointless to have both a Rare Soda that raises lv by 4, and also have a Ultra Rare Soda that raises lv by 4. Why on green earth would GameFreak program in such a repetitive thing? [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 07:34, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

:Ok, I've soft reset 20 times and have not come across a '''Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}40,000'''. I've come across 6 Ultra Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}50,000, 1 Ultra Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}40,000, 4 Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}30,000 2 Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}20,000 and 3 {{pokedollar}}10,000 but not a single Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}40,000. Does the Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}40,000 show up in a guide, or was it editor generated? [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 22:10, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
::20 times isn't all bad, but you only actually saw 9 Rare Sodas, which makes a big(ger) difference. If you could find at least 30 different Rare Sodas and none are 40000, that'd be fairly weighty.
::...Which isn't to say I think there is a 40000 Rare Soda. Another user [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User:Tiddlywinks/Juice_Shoppe&diff=2104627&oldid=2103370 previously] edited exactly that on my Juice Shoppe page (possibly based on information from a guidebook). I mean, yeah, it doesn't really make sense to have a Rare Soda that adds 4 levels when you've got an Ultra Rare Soda that does that (for the same price). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:24, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
:::Well regardless this needs further Investigating. I am about to do another round of soft resets to see if I find the mystical Rare Soda. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 21:31, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
I unfortunately lost exact count how many times I soft reset, but It was at least 25 (had a note pad open and pressed enter for each soft reset, so the count is 25-27 with 25 defiantly the min) but I saw 3 Ultra Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}40,000, 5 Ultra Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}50,000, 2 Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}20,000 and 2 {{pokedollar}}10,000 7 Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}30,000. Next time I guess I will document each item shown with each soft reset. On a side note, it seems that Colorful Shake {{pokedollar}}5,000 exists, not sure if anything higher exists but that's the highest colorful shake I've ever come across.[[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 21:53, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
Ok, I did 25 soft resets and not once did the Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}40,000 show up.

I compiled the results with a Excel spread sheet that I also used to keep track of resets. In 25 soft resets I saw 8 Blue juices of various values. 8 Colorful Shakes of various values, one of which was '''OVER 9000!!!''' (lol sorry), 8 Green juices of various values. 9 Pink Juices of various values. 5 Purple Juices of various values. 4 Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}10,000, 5 Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}20,000 and 4 Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}30,000. Again, 0 Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}40,000 to be found. There were 7 Red Juices of various values. I saw 2 Ultra Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}40,000 and 3 Ultra Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}50,000. I also saw 12 Yellow juices of various values.

http://dc700.4shared.com/img/3YBoAKi-ce/s7/1467b3ad640/Snapshot_20140608.JPG?

The only significant find in that test was that Colorful Shake can sell as High, maybe higher then {{pokedollar}}10,000 Coincidentally, that was on the 25th soft reset.

Given that in the last week I've soft reset somewhere in the neighborhood of 75 times, I should have statistically came across the Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}40,000 by now. The more I soft reset, the more I am believing the Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}40,000 is a mistaken identity for a Ultra Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}40,000 [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 11:44, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

==PR Video==
I know we don't have much on it right now, but I think "Trainer PR Video" should be an article. We could list all the different effects and makeup stuff. [[User:GreenFlame|GreenFlame]] ([[User talk:GreenFlame|talk]]) 00:19, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
:I entirely agree. That's why I actually started [[Trainer PR Video|such a page]]. What it primarily needs at the moment is coverage of the creation/editing of videos; except for that, it's basically ready for the mainspace. I just haven't had the motivation to make myself sit down and write that up. (It's also missing a couple of the captions in English still and a section for the makeup, but those are pretty easy fixes.)
:I'll see about writing the "Making" section to my satisfaction tomorrow or so, but if I can't make myself do that and if you're willing, I might be willing to let you have at it. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:51, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
::I've got some ideas for an article I guess and I could handle the makeup part, but where do I put them? Also apologies about putting comments in the wrong place, I'm new to this.[[User:GreenFlame|GreenFlame]] ([[User talk:GreenFlame|talk]]) 06:01, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
:::I'll try to do what needs doing myself tomorrow, you don't need to worry about where to put anything (hopefully at all, as far as PR Videos go). I just haven't had any motivation to take even the time it'd require. If I need anything, I'll let you know what's up. =) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 06:29, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

== Style chart ==

[[User:Ocelot King|Ocelot King]] ([[User talk:Ocelot King|talk]]) 02:38, 5 June 2015 (UTC) I went into Café Introversion to get the Hatching Power, and got it. Then I went into The Stone Emporium and the Mega Stone was only discounted to 50,000. I think that the Style benefits chart is wrong.

== add kalos league anime ==

according to the latest pokemon anime episode, the kalos league will be in lumiose city so could someone please add that? [[User:Alondon17|Alondon17]] ([[User talk:Alondon17|talk]]) 11:16, 26 May 2016 (UTC)

== Split ==

This page, like its namesake, is huge and difficult to navigate. Each of the major sections of the page is already divided between the different sections of the city. If the page was split into individual pages for each of the major roads, information on South Boulevard wouldn't need to be separated by information on the rest of the city and could much more easily be managed. This would also allow space for more images to identify locations in the city, easing navigation by users. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 01:51, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

:That seems to be a good idea. But I can't actually do it, for I'm not autoconfirmed yet and thus can't create pages. [[User:AquaMaster777|AquaMaster777]] ([[User talk:AquaMaster777|talk]]) 19:13, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

::I second this proposal as well. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 04:36, 13 October 2018 (UTC)

:::I think we should have an overview article on the whole of the city, then link to the sections in the page. Also make the section articles available by search, of course. [[User:DoubleDeckerDave|DoubleDeckerDave]] ([[User talk:DoubleDeckerDave|talk]]) 14:40, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

::::I created an account purely for the sake of bumping this suggestion. There's a lot of content in Lumiose city, although i'll never get to most of it in-game. Even just walking through that stupid city gives me nausea and headaches, literally and figuratively. [[User:Lusamine is bae|Lusamine is bae]] ([[User talk:Lusamine is bae|talk]]) 01:40, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

== Trainer locations ==

I've managed to locate nine of the ten regular Trainers present, but I currently have ''no idea'' where Beauty Cassandra is.

* Garçon Jacopo is in the alleyway past Loto-ID.
* Waitress Paget is near Bleu Plaza, on the way to the Southern Boulevard.
* Owner Toro is also near Bleu Plaza, on the way to Prism Tower - i.e. opposite Paget.
* Chef Kamaboko is past Paget, in a hidden alleyway.
* Preeetty sure Punk Girl Lillian is near Vert Plaza, opposite Cafe Cyclone.
* Punk Guy Faust is in an alleyway north of Rouge Plaza, opposite Sushi High Roller.
* Black Belt Killian is in the alleyway north of Restaurant Le Wow.
* Beauty Aimee is near Vert Plaza, outside Cafe Cyclone.
* Beauty Anais is in the back alleyway linking Jaune Plaza to Hibernal Avenue, past Trevor's house.

Once Cassandra's found, it'd be nice to note all then locations somewhere on the main page; if someone could get a simple map and mark the locations on it, even better (I've no experience with image manipulation).

--[[User:PokeMaster99999|PokeMaster99999]] ([[User talk:PokeMaster99999|talk]]) 09:17, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

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==Name Similarities to Illumise==
Should it be noted that Lumiose City's French name, Illumis; is almost the same as [[Illumise]]? [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 03:40, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

==Pikachu==
Minor speculation but i can't help but notice the pikachu in the picture. Either this is just because it's the franchise mascot or pokemon from gens 1 to 5 will be in Kalos unlike Unova's first two games. --[[User:Bomyne|Bomyne]] ([[User talk:Bomyne|talk]]) 11:43, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
:[[a:File:XY Pokedex.png|We know]] that Zigzagoon (and Linoone) will be in the Kalos Pokédex. However, Pikachu might just make a cameo, like it did in [[Castelia City]] and like Shroomish did in [[Hearthome City]].--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 11:57, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
:: In the announcement trailer back in Jan where Pikachu is on the tower, they mention that favorite old Pokémon would make an appearance, and they showed an encounter with a wild Pikachu.
:: Also, while this part is speculation on my own behalf; with the emphasis on light for this city, the tower's tip might light up. It is also likely, if it does light up, it does so possibly with the aid of a (Electric-Type) Pokémon much in the same way that the lighthouse in Olivine City (did I get the right city, been a long time since I played G&S.) Plus Pikachu was shown using its electricity on top of the tower in the announcement trailer. I wouldn't be surprise if a whole slew of Electric-Type Pokémon could be found in and near Lumiose City. But, we'll have to wait and see. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 21:18, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
:::Well it would go with the name (Luminose=Light=Electricity=Electric Pokemon). And yes Yamitora the city you are thinking of is Olivine City. [[User:Nuckles123|Nuckles123]] ([[User talk:Nuckles123|talk]]) 21:33, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

==Tourism==
Why does this page sound like it has been taken from a travel book all of a sudden? Doesn't sound professional. [[User:Nuckles123|Nuckles123]] ([[User talk:Nuckles123|talk]]) 00:20, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
: I shortened and dulled it down. I don't see how it was Touristy. Also thanks ‎ArcToraphim for the fix. I keep forgetting to do that when linking Pokémon names to their articles. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 01:40, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
:: It sounded touristy to me because of the mention to shopping and fine dining but it reads more professional now. Also, for creating Pokemon templates, do {{p|Name of Pokemon} } <--(but without this extra space). [[User:Nuckles123|Nuckles123]] ([[User talk:Nuckles123|talk]]) 02:21, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

==Lumiose City Gym==
In the 3rd Pokémon X and Y trailer, at 0:34, there is an image of the tower in the centre of the city. At the entrance of the tower is the same symbol that is in front of the Santalune City Gym, in the 2nd trailer, at 0:42. This symbol is the Gym symbol from Unova, so it is safe to assume that Lumiose City also has a Gym. From Kalos' map, Lumiose City is the 3rd Location to visit, after Vaniville and Santalune, so it could be the 2nd Gym, although it could act like Petalburg or Viridian and have the Gym challenged later on. Since Lumiose City is based on Paris, the City of Lights, then the Gym type could be Electric or Fairy (there probably will be some sort of Fairy Gym/Elite Four Member somewhere in Kalos), but this is very speculative. [[User:Xolotl|Xolotl]] ([[User talk:Xolotl|talk]]) 10:21, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
:I too, noticed this in the trailer. The gym logo is also visible in a screenshot for Pokémon X and Y (I think there is a YouTube video pointing this out.), so I would think that it is fair to say that it is not just an animé variation. There have however been gyms in the animé that have not appeared in games such as those of the [[Orange Archipelago]], and unofficial gyms, including a fake gym set up by [[Team Rocket]], but I would think it unusual to have an unofficial gym ''in-game''. Of course the ''typing'' of the gym is completely speculative, however, I think that the fact that there ''is'' a Lumiose Gym is pretty conclusive.--[[User:ShinyPatch|ShinyPatch]] ([[User talk:ShinyPatch|talk]]) 18:19, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
::The odds are pretty high that it has an actual Gym, but I have to point out that it's not unprecedented to have an unofficial Gym in-game — see the [[Fighting Dojo]] in Saffron City. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 18:26, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

== Korean name for Lumiose City ==

Its Korean name is 미스시티 ''Miseu {{tt|Siti|City}}''.
* I suspect it's based on the English word "myth", although that would be transliterated as 미쓰. Alternatively, 미스 could be "Miss" (whether "female tiitle" or "opposite of hit"), but I have my doubts. I'll have to get back to this. -- [[User:Nick15|Nick15]] ([[User talk:Nick15|talk]]) 23:01, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

== Plants and Lights? ==

How come all of the other cities and towns in Kalos so far are named after plants, yet Lumiose city is named after Paris' nickname 'the city of lights'? Shouldn't it be added to the trivia that Lumiose city is the only one not named after a plant? [[User:Ziggyangelo88|Ziggyangelo88]] ([[User talk:Ziggyangelo88|talk]]) 07:47, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
:We don't know all the cities, so we don't know yet whether another will be not named after a plant. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 07:48, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

==Prism Tower==
It should be worth noted that the Eiffel-Tower like thing is called Prism Tower. [[User:Dinodestroyer|Dinodestroyer]] ([[User talk:Dinodestroyer|talk]]) 11:07, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

==The second story of one of the north buildings==
I went there and something... odd happened. Im not even sure what it was. A very strange NPC is all i can say without spoiling. You'd know it if you saw it. well whatever it was, its clearly worth mentioning. If anyone has a clue what this thing was or what it meant, that should probably be included in the article somewhere. I think it was the building with the Dojo/Dance school on top, with the 2nd floor totally empty. I can't be sure because it only happened the one time and there are no signs left behind.

So yeah. That. Anyone know what that was and can put it on the page? [[User:PowerPlantRaichu|PowerPlantRaichu]] ([[User talk:PowerPlantRaichu|talk]]) 03:07, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
:No. You aren't the one. Yes, the dojo was on top. Given the servers and computers in the room, I surmise that it could be Game Freak, but the NPC makes me think event possibly. [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] ([[User talk:TruePikachu|talk]]) 09:52, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

==Looker Bureau==
Can somebody put something explaining this? I would, but I do not have the time. It is after you go to Anistar City and receive the Mega Ring upgrade. I would appreciate it, and I will help where I can.--[[User:Darkmaster|Darkmaster]] ([[User talk:Darkmaster|talk]]) 03:40, 26 October 2013 (UTC) As I said, I would do it all, but I have neither the time or the experience to do it. {{unsigned|Darkmaster}}

== On the glitches thing shall we put about this ghost girl? ==

Apparently there's this ghost girl thing which people are talking about. Is this a glitch if so put it on the glitches. I'm not sure if it's a reference to Unova about that girl in the Strange House or just a glitch. If anyone does know can someone either add it in the glitches or make note of it in the trivia section?--[[User:Hydreigonfan1|Hydreigonfan1]] ([[User talk:Hydreigonfan1|talk]]) 18:27, 27 October 2013 (UTC)
:It's pretty clear to me that it's not a glitch. It's just supposed to be a creepy thing they put into the game. --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 18:29, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

:: they put a ghost (or a few) in each game, so far i can remember DPP's house where u can find rotom, there's 2 ghosts there, also the girl in the bridge and in the abandoned house in BWB2B2 --[[User:Cabasho|Cabasho]] 10:06 11 November 2013 (-5 GMT)

== Sushi High Roller requirements ==

Can anyone help verify the requirements to get into Sushi High Roller? I know the only requirement isn't being the Champion, but I know it is one since the NPC that lets you in mentions it. I know there is something else since after becoming Champion, I did a bunch of style stuff and the Looker side quests and got access after that. Someone updated it to say the Looker sidequests are the other prereq, but that seems weird to me. Don't those also increase your style by completing them? Unfortunately, I don't know for a fact if completing that was what gave me access or not. [[User:Linkmastr001|Linkmastr001]] ([[User talk:Linkmastr001|talk]]) 21:39, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

Actually, I had a thought. One thing I did before doing this restaurant was participate in each of the other restaurants, perhaps that is the other requirement? [[User:Linkmastr001|Linkmastr001]] ([[User talk:Linkmastr001|talk]]) 01:48, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

I did that and beat the Elite Four, anyone else had that experience? -[[User:IVsaur|EVsandIVsaurs]] 01:56, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
:"The player needs to have become the Champion, completed the side quest, and have gotten his or her style up in the city."
:So is this meant to refer to the Looker sidequests? Because "the side quest" is completely unclear and I have no idea what I'm supposed to do. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 17:13, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

==Stone Emporium==
Does anyone know whether or not this shop gets more than just Leaf, Fire and Water Stones post game?--[[User:Ditto51|Tom]] ([[User_Talk:Ditto51|My Talk Page]]) 10:16, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
:Doesn't seem to do so. I think that's it unless you get more for becoming a full celebrity in Lumiose. I'm getting close to that stage (Venusarite is only 70,000, once it gets to 10,000 I will know). ☆[[User:Solar Dragon|The]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|Solar]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|Dragon]]☆ 10:23, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

==Sushi High Roller prize==
Has anyone completed a course? If so, what did you get? Apparently it's Big Nuggets, but the quantities are still undetermined on Bulbapedia. -- [[User:Pringles|Pringles]] 01:06, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

havent done it myself but the it says it is imposible to turn out profit from this restaurant... if the info presented here is correct, then its true, but the loss can be lowered to 191760 if using a double money item during the battles (such as an amulet coin). -- [[User:Cabasho|Cabasho]] 10:03 11 November 2013 (-5 GMT)
:Wait... 30k * 25 = 750k; 750k->500k... so what. [[User:Uploader|Uploader]] ([[User talk:Uploader|talk]]) 17:55, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
::Just checked on this, 30,000 for each Big Nugget and a perfect is 25 of them. You make profit since you get over $500,000 when selling... Not sure how you would be ''losing'' profit here. Anyone mind fixing up that trivia error? ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 04:11, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Wrong. In X/Y, you can sell the Big Nuggets for only 10,000 (not 30,000 like in Gen V). Therefore, you do NOT make profit in Sushi High Roller. Here's my result, using Amulet Coin + Prize Money Power lv 2, Triple Battle course.

'''1,454,404''' (my amount of money prior to selecting a course)
-450,000 (entrance cost)

1,004,404 (my amount of money prior to battling)
+18,720
+18,720
+18,720
+18,720
+41,600
+250,000 (10,000 x 25)

I ends up with '''1,370,884''' which means '''a loss'''.
So yeah, '''no''' profit, at least with PMP lv 2. I haven't try PMP lv 3. But if even with Amulet Coin and PMP lv 2 I still get a loss, that clearly means without Amulet Coin and PMP, the loss will be even greater....and even if using PMP lv 3 lets us receive some profit, it's still bad, as you must use the strongest boost just to receive a small amount of profit. Sushi High Roller? More like Sushi High ''Troll''er.[[User:Magnezone|Magnezone]] ([[User talk:Magnezone|talk]]) 01:09, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

:Then let me make a suggestion as to determine this, use Prize Money Power Level 3 + Luck Incense/Amulet Coin(Doesn't seem to stack) + {{m|Happy Hour}}. If that doesn't work, then we will need to say that the only way to make a profit is to use Pay Day to be able to make a profit. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 01:37, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
:: Extrapolating the results from your data.

-450,000 (entrance cost)
+ 56,160 (9,360 is assumed to be the amount with the Amulet Coin, *3 with PMP 3, *2 with Happy Hour)
+ 56,160
+ 56,160
+ 56,160
+ 124,800 (20,800 is assumed to be the amount with the Amulet Coin, *3 with PMP 3, *2 with Happy Hour)
+ 250,000 (250,000 is the normal sell value of 25 Big Nuggets.)
That means the balance should become a net gain of 149,440. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 18:44, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

==Splitting up the article==
Given the current size of the article, and that it's still marked "incomplete," it would probably be a good idea to start giving certain sections their own articles. {{redlink|Hotel Richissime}} should probably be first, as it's currently the most well-developed section. I'm also planning, when I get the time, to transcribe all of the Lumiose Museum audio guides and use them in making a page for that building as well. Any objections or suggestions for further splitting? —[[User:Minimiscience|Minimiscience]] ([[User talk:Minimiscience|talk]]) 00:36, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
:The restaurants use a fair amount of templates, which makes them a pretty good candidate to split off if we're trying to do it for size purposes. I agree that Hotel Richissime can be split off; the Lumiose Museum stuff sounds like it'd be more quote-heavy than content-heavy, so it might be suited more as a subpage of this article than its own article, though that's probably something for a staff member to decide. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 00:41, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
::Lumiose Museum would have a lot of quotes, though (there are 20-30 paintings in it), and some of the paintings appear to be art from previous games that's already on the Archives, so I'd imagine we'd want to include those in the Museum's section/article, making it longer and more article-worthy. —[[User:Minimiscience|Minimiscience]] ([[User talk:Minimiscience|talk]]) 00:51, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
:::Yeah, I'd say this article could certainly use splitting up. The Hotel Richissime and Lumiose Museum getting their own pages would work. Restaurants maybe. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 03:31, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

[[Hotel Richissime]] is now a separate article. —[[User:Minimiscience|Minimiscience]] ([[User talk:Minimiscience|talk]]) 04:19, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

[[Lumiose Museum]] is now an article. The formatting could probably use some work. —[[User:Minimiscience|Minimiscience]] ([[User talk:Minimiscience|talk]]) 09:31, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

==Pokemon Centers==
Should it be noted that Lumiose City is the first and only city in the entire Pokemon World to have more than one Pokemon Center within the city? I'm a bit surprised nobody has brought this up. {{unsigned|Noah★|17:38, 27 December 2013 (UTC)}}
:That's because it's not. [[Ever Grande City]] was the first. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 17:43, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

== Rare Soda and Ultra Rare Soda Evoltuion ==

Ok, so I bought an Ultra Rare Soda (50,000 pokedollars), gave it to my lv 34 Servine which increased its level to lv 39, and she did not evolve. Is this possibly only Ultra Rare Soda, or does also raise level but does not invoke evolution?[[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 06:50, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

== Restaurants ==

Has anyone really figured out how the restaurants are scored aside from number of turns and Pokémon fainted? For some reason, I actually got 24 Balm Mushrooms in Le Wow when I completed the entire Double Battle course in 10 turns and no faints, but actually got a ''smaller'' reward (around 19-21) when I completed the entire thing in one turn per battle. From what I've seen, at least, you seem to get a better reward for getting closer to the designated turn count over taken the least possible amount of turns. This really doesn't seem right and I'm starting to think that there is more to the scoring. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy (瀬藤健二)]] ([[User talk:Schiffy|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|Contribs]]) 22:01,1/13/2014 (UTC)
:I don't see what you're having an issue with... You're not supposed to go for the least possible amount of turns, since the point is to hit the target number of turns ''exactly''. Going over ''or'' under will detract from the reward, and I think the article's pretty clear about that. Unless I've misunderstood your question? [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 03:52, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
::"For each faint or turn difference, the player will receive one less of the reward item." - Ignore me, I'm stupid and I can't read. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy (瀬藤健二)]] ([[User talk:Schiffy|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|Contribs]]) 05:16,1/14/2014 (UTC)

==Discount Coupon==
So, from what I gathered from the PGL and my game, the Discount Coupon seems to have the following properties:
:#They cost zero Poké Miles
:#They can be used one time at {{tt|''any'' Boutique|it's mentioned on this page already, hence why I'm using this talk page}} (seemingly on one item, but that also might be one full transaction); and give you 50% off
:#They can be sold to a Poké Mart for {{PD}}10
:#They can only be obtained once
:#They go in the main Items slot
:#They have the following description: "This special coupon allows you to buy items at a discount when you are shopping at a boutique."
I can't seem to find a page of (non key) items introduced in Gen VI if there is one, so I'm leaving the information here in hopes of finding said page. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy (瀬藤健二)]] ([[User talk:Schiffy|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|Contribs]]) 19:52,1/15/2014 (UTC)
:Wouldn't it fit best in [[exchangeable item]]s? It's only function is to be exchanged after all. And I recall the Bulbanews article saying you could buy multiple items. [[User:Glik|Glik]] ([[User talk:Glik|talk]]) 21:10, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
::Well, to start off, I set it up [[Bulbapedia:Sandbox#Discount Coupon|here]], since there's still a few things missing, for sure. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy (瀬藤健二)]] ([[User talk:Schiffy|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|Contribs]]) 23:01,1/15/2014 (UTC)

== Soft Resetting Changes the Menu in the Juice Shoppe ==

So, I discovered soft resetting changes the Juice Shoppe Menu to some degree under certain circumstances.

I was leveling up two 5IV Charmander (one Impish, one Careful) to see which had the best Attack of the two (Only HP, Def, Sp.Atk, Sp. Def and Speed are 31IV)

Well I used rare candies while in Kiloude City to get them the first one (Impish) to level 21, then I flew to Lumiose City to see if the Juice Shoppe was selling Rare or Ultra Rare Soda. I know its a gamble, but it paid of, they were selling Rare Soda for 20k. So that got it to level 23.

I soft reset, repeated the rare candies and then flew from Kiloude to Lumiose and when I got to the Juice Shoppe, the Rare Soda was now 50k Ultra Rare Soda, which was surprising. So I was able to get the Careful Charmander to level 26 instead of lv 23 like I had the Impish one.

I have saved and then soft reset before inside the shoppe and the menu stayed the same. This time however I had saved in Kiloude and flew back to the Juice Shoppe. If I were to guess, I would assume that the menu changes based on similar math that a roaming Pokémon's route changes. This needs further investigation, but if proven to some degree, would soft resetting to change the menu be worth noting in the article/Juice Shoppe section? [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 15:57, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
:Well, I screwed up in my attempt to investigate this further, but it wasn't a total lost.

:So after I soft reset and flew back to the Juice Shoppe, the menu changed again, this time to the 20k rare soda and a 40k Ultra rare soda and a pink 2100 juice. I saved after seeing these items, now the menu is stuck as that..so it seems as long as you save before you find out the menu, it is not locked in and can be changed with further soft resets. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 16:04, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

==Restaurant Stars==
It mentions in the article that if you complete the selected option for battling (Double, Triple, Rotation, ect) and get a perfect score, then a star appears next to that option. However do these stars actually do anything? Like if I completed all of them perfectly, would I get a discount or something important like that? [[User:Darkcloud1111|'''''Darkcloud1111''''']][[User talk:Darkcloud1111|'''~Fastest Hero Alive''']] 20:44, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
:I think its mostly a Aesthetic badge of honor showing that you've achieved the goal for that battle option. I've noticed no change outside of that in terms of price or prize money.[[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 21:43, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
::I have just got perfect scores/stars in every battle type in all 4 restaurants and it doesn't seem to do anything other that allow you to tip that restaurant $10,000 and have the person that serves you at the counter have different dialog (treating you like a regular customer). I though it might add a star/change the color of my Trainer Card, but I guess not! --[[User:Evacino|'''evacino''']][[User talk:Evacino|''' (talk)''']] 15:49, 17 February 2014 (GMT)

==Do Cookies Go With Milk?==
I've been buying Lumiose Galettes for a LONG time, and I've never received a Moomoo Milk. [[User:NerfPlayeR135|NerfPlayeR135]] ([[User talk:NerfPlayeR135|talk]]) 00:25, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
:I think you only get the Moomoo Milk if you buy a Galette within an hour of a sale starting (i.e., from 3 to 4 or from 9 to 10), and even then I think you only get one per day. —[[User:Minimiscience|Minimiscience]] ([[User talk:Minimiscience|talk]]) 16:08, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

== Help Needed Roseli Berry used in Ultra Rare Soda it seems, whats the other berry? ==

So, I saw a image of a snapshot taken of the Roseli berry's official guide entry, and it states the berry newcomer is one of the ingredients needed to make Ultra Rare Soda.

It took me a 1 hour and 10 minutes but I tested each combination of Roseli berry with the berries I have, and none worked.

The only berries I have yet to test are...
Starf Berry (which is needed to make normal Rare Soda)
Enigma Berry
Micle Berry
Custap Berry
Jaboca Berry
Rowap Berry

Those six berries I do not possess, so testing them on my side is impossible. so could someone test the other berries if possible? [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 06:21, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
:I'm sure we spoke about this in the forums today, but I forgot to mention that I am willing to try to get my hands on a Starf so I can test it out (unless if someone else has tested it). We'd have to wait on the other 5 Berries you listed since they aren't available in X and Y yet. [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 01:45, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
::yes we did, hopefully we can test this soon. As for the other 5, I was wondering about how we even know if those are in the game or not. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 02:06, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
:::Good news: I got my hands on a Starf, and I have plenty of Roseli, so I can test. However, the combination gives a Mixed Shake. Once the other 5 are made available, we can test those. [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 02:45, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
Ok thank you, that sure helps. Well lets hope the other berries are released soon. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 05:12, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

==Restaurant Template==
Should we switch the current trainer template in those restaurants to the template which features Pokémon moves? (I don't know what's that called)
It is better to know their moves, so we could somehow prepare in advance to earn the stars. --[[User:Yukyankee|Yukyankee]] ([[User talk:Yukyankee|talk]]) 16:03, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

==Style & Tiers==
SciresM went and figured out how style works, and at what Style decreases Mega Stone prices. If you want a table of it for here, read more at ProjectPokemon [http://projectpokemon.org/forums/showthread.php?37269-X-Y-Save-File-Research#post181290]. [[User:Kaphotics|Kaphotics]] ([[User talk:Kaphotics|talk]]) 01:15, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

==Pokemon Center Poke Miles shop, Heart Scale?==
I just moved a shop listing for items exchangeable for Poke Miles to this page. In the process, I deleted an entry for Heart Scales that was [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pok%C3%A9_Mile&oldid=2084166 previously] included in the shop. I doubt this is true (in [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dm4g370aCrw a YouTube video] of someone who's beaten the Elite Four, it doesn't appear on their list of items; I can't readily imagine any circumstance that might add Heart Scales to that shop, then), but I just wanted to leave this note so maybe other people could check it on their games. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:28, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
::No HeartScale from the guy's menu, only acquirable thru the global link shop [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 05:40, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

== Juice Shoppe Berry Mixing Research ==

Ok, so right now I am researching and collecting data on mixing red berries together to see how strong the juice they make is.

Results so far

{| class="roundy" style="border: 2px solid #111111; background:#555555; margin-right: 5px; margin-bottom: 5px"
|-
! colspan="2" rowspan="2" |
! colspan="10" style="{{roundytr|5px}} background:#999999" | Second Berry
|-
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Cheri Berry Sprite.png]]
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Leppa Berry Sprite.png]]
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Figy Berry Sprite.png]]
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Pomeg Berry Sprite.png]]
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Tamato Berry Sprite.png]]
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Occa Berry Sprite.png]]
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Chople Berry Sprite.png]]
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Haban Berry Sprite.png]]
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Liechi Berry Sprite.png]]
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Lansat Berry Sprite.png]]
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! rowspan="10" style="background:#999999" | F i r s t B e r r y
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Cheri Berry Sprite.png]]
| 4
| 8
| 16
| 16
| 16
| N/A
| 12
| 12
| 16
| 16
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Leppa Berry Sprite.png]]
| 8
| 4
| 16
| 16
| 16
| N/A
| 12
| 12
| 16
| 16
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Figy Berry Sprite.png]]
| 16
| 16
| 12
| 32
| 32
| N/A
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Pomeg Berry Sprite.png]]
| 16
| 16
| 32
| 12
| 32
| N/A
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Tamato Berry Sprite.png]]
| 16
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 12
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Occa Berry Sprite.png]]
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Chople Berry Sprite.png]]
| 12
| 12
| 32
| 32
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Haban Berry Sprite.png]]
| 12
| 12
| 32
| 32
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Liechi Berry Sprite.png]]
| 16
| 16
| 32
| 32
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Lansat Berry Sprite.png]]
| 16
| 16
| 32
| 32
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
|-
| colspan="12" style="{{roundybottom|5px}}; background:#999999" |
|}{{-}}

Since making a chart with all 50+ available in-game berries would be too hard (I tried, I wanted to go on a murderous rampage using a kantana followed by Hari kari) this seems to be the best way to show the effects of mixing each berries, at least within the same color group. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 08:49, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

:Ok, here is a updated red berry chart and the charts for the other berries. The colored numbers will be explained later down...

Red Berry Chart
{| class="roundy" style="text-align:center; font-size:90%; border: 2px solid #111; background:#555; margin-right: 5px; margin-bottom: 5px"
|-
! colspan="2" rowspan="2" |
! colspan="10" style="{{roundytr|5px}} background:#999; font-size:111%" | Second Berry
|- style="background:#FF5656"
! [[File:Bag Cheri Berry Sprite.png|link=Cheri Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Leppa Berry Sprite.png|link=Leppa Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Figy Berry Sprite.png|link=Figy Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Pomeg Berry Sprite.png|link=Pomeg Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Tamato Berry Sprite.png|link=Tamato Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Occa Berry Sprite.png|link=Occa Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Chople Berry Sprite.png|link=Chople Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Haban Berry Sprite.png|link=Haban Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Liechi Berry Sprite.png|link=Liechi Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Lansat Berry Sprite.png|link=Lansat Berry]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
! rowspan="10" style="background:#999" | F i r s t B e r r y
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Cheri Berry Sprite.png|link=Cheri Berry]]
| style="background:#FF8989" | 4
| 8
| 16
| 16
| 16
| 12
| 12
| 12
| 16
| 16
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Leppa Berry Sprite.png|link=Leppa Berry]]
| 8
| style="background:#FF8989" | 4
| 16
| 16
| 16
| 12
| 12
| 12
| 16
| 16
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Figy Berry Sprite.png|link=Figy Berry]]
| 16
| 16
| style="background:#FF5656" | 12
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Pomeg Berry Sprite.png|link=Pomeg Berry]]
| 16
| 16
| 32
| style="background:#FF5656" | 12
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Tamato Berry Sprite.png|link=Tamato Berry]]
| 16
| 16
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#FF5656" | 12
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Occa Berry Sprite.png|link=Occa Berry]]
| 12
| 12
| 32
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#FF7070" | 8
| 16
| 16
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Chople Berry Sprite.png|link=Chople Berry]]
| 12
| 12
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 16
| style="background:#FF7070" | 8
| 16
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Haban Berry Sprite.png|link=Haban Berry]]
| 12
| 12
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 16
| 16
| style="background:#FF7070" | 8
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Liechi Berry Sprite.png|link=Liechi Berry]]
| 16
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#FF5656" | 12
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Lansat Berry Sprite.png|link=Lansat Berry]]
| 16
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#FF5656" | 12
|-
| colspan="12" style="{{roundybottom|5px}}; background:#999" |
|}{{-}}

Purple Berry Chart
{| class="roundy" style="text-align:center; font-size:90%; border: 2px solid #111; background:#555; margin-right: 5px; margin-bottom: 5px"
|-
! colspan="2" rowspan="2" |
! colspan="6" style="{{roundytr|5px}} background:#999; font-size:111%" | Second Berry
|- style="background:#b154ba"
! [[File:Bag Chesto Berry Sprite.png|link=Chesto Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Wiki Berry Sprite.png|link=Wiki Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Payapa Berry Sprite.png|link=Payapa Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Kasib Berry Sprite.png|link=Kasib Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Colbur Berry Sprite.png|link=Colbur Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Ganlon Berry Sprite.png|link=Ganlon Berry]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
! rowspan="6" style="background:#999" | F i r s t B e r r y
! style="background:#b154ba" | [[File:Bag Chesto Berry Sprite.png|link=Chesto Berry]]
| style="background:#c278c9" | 4
| 16
| 12
| 12
| 12
| 16
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#b154ba" | [[File:Bag Wiki Berry Sprite.png|link=Wiki Berry]]
| 16
| style="background:#b154ba" | 12
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#b154ba" | [[File:Bag Payapa Berry Sprite.png|link=Payapa Berry]]
| 12
| 32
| style="background:#b966c1" | 8
| 16
| 16
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#b154ba" | [[File:Bag Kasib Berry Sprite.png|link=Kasib Berry]]
| 12
| 32
| 16
| style="background:#b966c1" | 8
| 16
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#b154ba" | [[File:Bag Colbur Berry Sprite.png|link=Colbur Berry]]
| 12
| 32
| 16
| 16
| style="background:#b966c1" | 8
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#b154ba" | [[File:Bag Ganlon Berry Sprite.png|link=Ganlon Berry]]
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#b154ba" | 12
|-
| colspan="8" style="{{roundybottom|5px}}; background:#999" |
|}{{-}}

Pink Berry Chart
{| class="roundy" style="text-align:center; font-size:90%; border: 2px solid #111; background:#555; margin-right: 5px; margin-bottom: 5px"
|-
! colspan="2" rowspan="2" |
! colspan="5" style="{{roundytr|5px}} background:#999; font-size:111%" | Second Berry
|- style="background:#{{fairy color}}"
! [[File:Bag Pecha Berry Sprite.png|link=Pecha Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Persim Berry Sprite.png|link=Persim Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Mago Berry Sprite.png|link=Mago Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Petaya Berry Sprite.png|link=Petaya Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Roseli Berry Sprite.png|link=Roseli Berry]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
! rowspan="5" style="background:#999" | F i r s t B e r r y
! style="background:#{{fairy color}}" | [[File:Bag Pecha Berry Sprite.png|link=Pecha Berry]]
| style="background:#f8d3db" | 4
| 12
| 16
| 16
| 16
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#{{fairy color}}" | [[File:Bag Persim Berry Sprite.png|link=Persim Berry]]
| 12
| style="background:#{{fairy color light}}" | 8
| 32
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#{{fairy color}}" | [[File:Bag Mago Berry Sprite.png|link=Mago Berry]]
| 16
| 32
| style="background:#{{fairy color}}" | 12
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#{{fairy color}}" | [[File:Bag Petaya Berry Sprite.png|link=Petaya Berry]]
| 16
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#{{fairy color}}" | 12
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#{{fairy color}}" | [[File:Bag Roseli Berry Sprite.png|link=Roseli Berry]]
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#{{fairy color}}" | 12
|-
| colspan="9" style="{{roundybottom|5px}}; background:#999" |
|}{{-}}

Green Berry Chart
{| class="roundy" style="text-align:center; font-size:90%; border: 2px solid #111; background:#555; margin-right: 5px; margin-bottom: 5px"
|-
! colspan="2" rowspan="2" |
! colspan="10" style="{{roundytr|5px}} background:#999; font-size:111%" | Second Berry
|- style="background:#56FF56"
! [[File:Bag Rawst Berry Sprite.png|link=Rawst Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Lum Berry Sprite.png|link=Lum Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Aguav Berry Sprite.png|link=Aguav Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Hondew Berry Sprite.png|link=Hondew Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Rindo Berry Sprite.png|link=Rindo Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Kebia Berry Sprite.png|link=Kebia Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Tanga Berry Sprite.png|link=Tanga Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Babiri Berry Sprite.png|link=Babiri Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Salac Berry Sprite.png|link=Salac Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Starf Berry Sprite.png|link=Starf Berry]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
! rowspan="10" style="background:#999" | F i r s t B e r r y
! style="background:#56FF56" | [[File:Bag Rawst Berry Sprite.png|link=Rawst Berry]]
| style="background:#89FF98" | 4
| 12
| 16
| 16
| 12
| 12
| 12
| 12
| 16
| 16
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#56FF56" | [[File:Bag Lum Berry Sprite.png|link=Lum Berry]]
| 12
| style="background:#70FF70" | 8
| 32
| 32
| 16
| 16
| 16
| 16
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#56FF56" | [[File:Bag Aguav Berry Sprite.png|link=Aguav Berry]]
| 16
| 32
| style="background:#56FF56" | 12
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#56FF56" | [[File:Bag Hondew Berry Sprite.png|link=Hondew Berry]]
| 16
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#56FF56" | 12
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#56FF56" | [[File:Bag Rindo Berry Sprite.png|link=Rindo Berry]]
| 12
| 16
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#70FF70" | 8
| 16
| 16
| 16
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#56FF56" | [[File:Bag Kebia Berry Sprite.png|link=Kebia Berry]]
| 12
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 16
| style="background:#70FF70" | 8
| 16
| 16
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#56FF56" | [[File:Bag Tanga Berry Sprite.png|link=Tanga Berry]]
| 12
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 16
| 16
| style="background:#70FF70" | 8
| 16
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#56FF56" | [[File:Bag Babiri Berry Sprite.png|link=Babiri Berry]]
| 12
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 16
| 16
| 16
| style="background:#70FF70" | 8
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#56FF56" | [[File:Bag Salac Berry Sprite.png|link=Salac Berry]]
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#56FF56" | 12
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#56FF56" | [[File:Bag Starf Berry Sprite.png|link=Starf Berry]]
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#56FF56" | 12
|-
| colspan="12" style="{{roundybottom|5px}}; background:#999" |
|}{{-}}

Yellow Berry Chart
{| class="roundy" style="text-align:center; font-size:90%; border: 2px solid #111; background:#555; margin-right: 5px; margin-bottom: 5px"
|-
! colspan="2" rowspan="2" |
! colspan="10" style="{{roundytr|5px}} background:#999; font-size:111%" | Second Berry
|- style="background:#FFFF56"
! [[File:Bag Aspear Berry Sprite.png|link=Aspear Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Sitrus Berry Sprite.png|link=Sitrus Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Iapapa Berry Sprite.png|link=Iapapa Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Qualot Berry Sprite.png|link=Qualot Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Grepa Berry Sprite.png|link=Grepa Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Wacan Berry Sprite.png|link=Wacan Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Shuca Berry Sprite.png|link=Shuca Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Charti Berry Sprite.png|link=Charti Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Chilan Berry Sprite.png|link=Chilan Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Kee Berry Sprite.png|link=Kee Berry]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
! rowspan="10" style="background:#999" | F i r s t B e r r y
! style="background:#FFFF56" | [[File:Bag Aspear Berry Sprite.png|link=Aspear Berry]]
| style="background:#FFFFa3" | 4
| 12
| 16
| 16
| 16
| 12
| 12
| 12
| 12
| 16
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FFFF56" | [[File:Bag Sitrus Berry Sprite.png|link=Sitrus Berry]]
| 12
| style="background:#FFFF89" | 8
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 16
| 16
| 16
| 16
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FFFF56" | [[File:Bag Iapapa Berry Sprite.png|link=Iapapa Berry]]
| 16
| 32
| style="background:#FFFF56" | 12
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FFFF56" | [[File:Bag Qualot Berry Sprite.png|link=Qualot Berry]]
| 16
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#FFFF56" | 12
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FFFF56" | [[File:Bag Grepa Berry Sprite.png|link=Grepa Berry]]
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#FFFF56" | 12
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FFFF56" | [[File:Bag Wacan Berry Sprite.png|link=Wacan Berry]]
| 12
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#FFFF89" | 8
| 16
| 16
| 16
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FFFF56" | [[File:Bag Shuca Berry Sprite.png|link=Shuca Berry]]
| 12
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 16
| style="background:#FFFF89" | 8
| 16
| 16
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FFFF56" | [[File:Bag Charti Berry Sprite.png|link=Charti Berry]]
| 12
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 16
| 16
| style="background:#FFFF89" | 8
| 16
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FFFF56" | [[File:Bag Chilan Berry Sprite.png|link=Chilan Berry]]
| 12
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 16
| 16
| 16
| style="background:#FFFF89" | 8
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FFFF56" | [[File:Bag Kee Berry Sprite.png|link=Kee Berry]]
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#FFFF56" | 12
|-
| colspan="12" style="{{roundybottom|5px}}; background:#999" |
|}{{-}}

Blue Berry Chart
{| class="roundy" style="text-align:center; font-size:90%; border: 2px solid #111; background:#555; margin-right: 5px; margin-bottom: 5px"
|-
! colspan="2" rowspan="2" |
! colspan="7" style="{{roundytr|5px}} background:#999; font-size:111%" | Second Berry
|- style="background:#5656ff"
! [[File:Bag Oran Berry Sprite.png|link=Oran Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Kelpsy Berry Sprite.png|link=Kelpsy Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Passho Berry Sprite.png|link=Passho Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Yache Berry Sprite.png|link=Yache Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Coba Berry Sprite.png|link=Coba Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Apicot Berry Sprite.png|link=Apicot Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Maranga Berry Sprite.png|link=Maranga Berry]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
! rowspan="7" style="background:#999" | F i r s t B e r r y
! style="background:#5656ff" | [[File:Bag Oran Berry Sprite.png|link=Oran Berry]]
| style="background:#8989ff" | 4
| 16
| 12
| 12
| 12
| 16
| 16
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#5656ff" | [[File:Bag Kelpsy Berry Sprite.png|link=Kelpsy Berry]]
| 16
| style="background:#5656ff" | 12
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#5656ff" | [[File:Bag Passho Berry Sprite.png|link=Passho Berry]]
| 12
| 32
| style="background:#7070ff" | 8
| 16
| 16
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#5656ff" | [[File:Bag Yache Berry Sprite.png|link=Yache Berry]]
| 12
| 32
| 16
| style="background:#7070ff" | 8
| 16
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#5656ff" | [[File:Bag Coba Berry Sprite.png|link=Coba Berry]]
| 12
| 32
| 16
| 16
| style="background:#7070ff" | 8
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#5656ff" | [[File:Bag Apicot Berry Sprite.png|link=Apicot Berry]]
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#5656ff" | 12
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#5656ff" | [[File:Bag Maranga Berry Sprite.png|link=Maranga Berry]]
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#5656ff" | 12
|-
| colspan="9" style="{{roundybottom|5px}}; background:#999" |
|}{{-}}

:Thank to a collaboration with '''Tiddlywinks''' it has been discovered that berries, no mater the color, can be cataloged into 3 groups based on one single property, the strength of the juice they make when mixed with themselves.

:Group 1 berries will always result in a 4 when mixed with themselves, group 2 berries a 8 and group 3 a 12. No currently known berry will result in a 16 or 32 when mixed with itself. On the charts above, I have marked all berry group indicators by a color, I also believe this helps a person better follow the flow of the chart since plain white can kind of blur into a wall of text.

:Berry groups will also always result in the same berry juice strength when mixed with another (different) berry of the same color in the same group. Group 1 berries will always result in a strength of 8 when mixed with another group 1 berry. They will also result in a 16 or a 12 when mixed with a group 2 or group 3 berry respectively. Group 2 berries will always result in 16 when mixed with another group 2 berry, and a 32 when mixed with any group 3 berry. Whenever 2 group 3 berries are mixed, the result is always 32.

:These two charts can better illustrate the berry groups and their mixing results.

{| class="roundy" style="text-align:center; border: 2px solid #111; background:#555; margin-right: 5px; margin-bottom: 5px" cellpadding="2px"
! colspan=3 style="background:#999; {{roundytop|5px}}" | Berry Groups
|- style="background:#{{steel color}}"
! 1
! 2
! 3
|- style="background:#FF5656"
| [[File:Bag Cheri Berry Sprite.png|link=Cheri Berry]] [[File:Bag Leppa Berry Sprite.png|link=Leppa Berry]]
| [[File:Bag Occa Berry Sprite.png|link=Occa Berry]] [[File:Bag Chople Berry Sprite.png|link=Chople Berry]] [[File:Bag Haban Berry Sprite.png|link=Haban Berry]]
| [[File:Bag Figy Berry Sprite.png|link=Figy Berry]] [[File:Bag Pomeg Berry Sprite.png|link=Pomeg Berry]] [[File:Bag Tamato Berry Sprite.png|link=Tamato Berry]] [[File:Bag Liechi Berry Sprite.png|link=Liechi Berry]] [[File:Bag Lansat Berry Sprite.png|link=Lansat Berry]]
|- style="background:#B154BA"
| [[File:Bag Chesto Berry Sprite.png|link=Chesto Berry]]
| [[File:Bag Payapa Berry Sprite.png|link=Payapa Berry]] [[File:Bag Kasib Berry Sprite.png|link=Kasib Berry]] [[File:Bag Colbur Berry Sprite.png|link=Colbur Berry]]
| [[File:Bag Wiki Berry Sprite.png|link=Wiki Berry]] [[File:Bag Ganlon Berry Sprite.png|link=Ganlon Berry]]
|- style="background:#{{fairy color}}"
| [[File:Bag Pecha Berry Sprite.png|link=Pecha Berry]]
| [[File:Bag Persim Berry Sprite.png|link=Persim Berry]]
| [[File:Bag Mago Berry Sprite.png|link=Mago Berry]] [[File:Bag Petaya Berry Sprite.png|link=Petaya Berry]] [[File:Bag Roseli Berry Sprite.png|link=Roseli Berry]]
|- style="background:#56FF56"
| [[File:Bag Rawst Berry Sprite.png|link=Rawst Berry]]
| [[File:Bag Lum Berry Sprite.png|link=Lum Berry]] [[File:Bag Rindo Berry Sprite.png|link=Rindo Berry]] [[File:Bag Kebia Berry Sprite.png|link=Kebia Berry]] [[File:Bag Tanga Berry Sprite.png|link=Tanga Berry]] [[File:Bag Babiri Berry Sprite.png|link=Babiri Berry]]
| [[File:Bag Aguav Berry Sprite.png|link=Aguav Berry]] [[File:Bag Hondew Berry Sprite.png|link=Hondew Berry]] [[File:Bag Salac Berry Sprite.png|link=Salac Berry]] [[File:Bag Starf Berry Sprite.png|link=Starf Berry]]
|-
| style="background:#FFFF56" | [[File:Bag Aspear Berry Sprite.png|link=Aspear Berry]]
| style="background:#FFFF56" | [[File:Bag Sitrus Berry Sprite.png|link=Sitrus Berry]] [[File:Bag Wacan Berry Sprite.png|link=Wacan Berry]] [[File:Bag Shuca Berry Sprite.png|link=Shuca Berry]] [[File:Bag Charti Berry Sprite.png|link=Charti Berry]] [[File:Bag Chilan Berry Sprite.png|link=Chilan Berry]]
| style="background:#FFFF56" | [[File:Bag Iapapa Berry Sprite.png|link=Iapapa Berry]] [[File:Bag Qualot Berry Sprite.png|link=Qualot Berry]] [[File:Bag Grepa Berry Sprite.png|link=Grepa Berry]] [[File:Bag Kee Berry Sprite.png|link=Kee Berry]]
|- style="background:#5656FF"
| [[File:Bag Oran Berry Sprite.png|link=Oran Berry]]
| [[File:Bag Passho Berry Sprite.png|link=Passho Berry]] [[File:Bag Yache Berry Sprite.png|link=Yache Berry]] [[File:Bag Coba Berry Sprite.png|link=Coba Berry]]
| [[File:Bag Kelpsy Berry Sprite.png|link=Kelpsy Berry]] [[File:Bag Apicot Berry Sprite.png|link=Apicot Berry]] [[File:Bag Maranga Berry Sprite.png|link=Maranga Berry]]
|-
|}{{-}}
{| class="roundy" style="text-align:center; border: 2px solid #111; background:#555; margin-right: 5px; margin-bottom: 5px"
!
! style="background:#{{steel color}}" | Group 1
! style="background:#{{steel color}}" | Group 2
! style="background:#{{steel color}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Group 3
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#{{steel color}}" | Group 1
| {{tt|4|Mixing two of the same berry}}-8 || 16 || 12
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#{{steel color}}" | Group 2
| 16 || {{tt|8|Mixing two of the same berry}}-16 || 32
|-
! style="background:#{{steel color}}; {{roundybl|5px}}" | Group 3
| style="background:#FFF" | 12
| style="background:#FFF" | 32
| style="background:#FFF; {{roundybr|5px}}" | {{tt|12|Mixing two of the same berry}}-32
|}{{-}}

I'm not sure what the best way to relay this message is, but hopefully this can help educate people on how best to get the most out of their berry mixes and better EV train their Pokémon to the specifications of their choice.[[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 21:21, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

:Some of this information seems to be incorrect. Specifically, values received from mixing two different groups of berries. Just now, I attempted to mix two Yellow berries, one Aspear (Group 1) and one Sitrus (Group 2), seeing that mixing a Group 1 and a Group 2 would give better results than mixing a Group 1 and a Group 3. However, I only actually received 12 EVs from the resulting shake, not 16. I then confirmed that those two berries were in the groups they're stated to be in by mixing two of the same, and finally tested mixing a Group 1 and a Group 3, which resulted in 16 EVs. It seems the values for mixing between groups is reversed, which would make more sense anyway.

:Also, your original set of charts seems to agree with my findings, showing an Aspear plus a Sitrus as giving 12, and Group 1 plus Group 3 berries giving 16. It seems something just got lost in the translation to the new charts. [[User:True Hitoare|True Hitoare]] ([[User talk:True Hitoare|talk]]) 06:35, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

==Juice Shoppe split==
I plan to add a big table (or tables, not sure right now) describing exactly what results you get for mixing what Berries to the Juice Shoppe. At that point, it's really better off as its own page. If you'd like an idea, the data may end up something like the chart at the end of [[User talk:Tiddlywinks#Could you spellcheck this Chart please?|this section]], or it may end up more like the first rainbow-colored chart in the middle of that section. (I can appreciate if you might feel like critiquing those charts, but please understand they are works in progress.)

I don't think there's any overriding need for much of the Juice Shoppe section to be on this page. A little summary with a "main" link to the separate page should be just fine. If you want to know about the Juice Shoppe - especially if we're giving all the exact mixing results - then it's really better off as its own page rather than as a section of Lumiose City. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:13, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

:I think given the complexity of mixing berries, a article for the Juice Shoppe would be appropriate.

:I was looking at the Juice Shoppe section, comparing it to the other sections, and it throws off the flow of the page. It has more info in it than two of the other sections combined. It seems so out of place and bulgy compared to the other sections that consist of a simple introductory sentence or paragraph.

:Plus, once we figure out how best to implement some table(s) in order to illustrate the data, it will become even more bulky. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 20:15, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
::Could you develop a page on your userpage so we can have a general idea of how it will look and such before we make a final decision about the split? '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 21:07, 11 April 2014 (UTC)
:::...A general idea? That's easy enough. '''[[User:Tiddlywinks/Juice Shoppe|Here]]'''. Do understand that I deliver what you asked for: the general idea. I don't at the moment have all the information I want for that page (notably, "extremely"/"really" are basically placeholders for hard numbers), and without that, I don't really feel like I can make it "complete", so past a certain point (e.g., color scheme...) I won't even try yet. I am not satisfied with that as an end product, but I also don't like waiting, so I hope you can make a decision off of that "general idea". I'm entirely open to suggestions or comments. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:07, 11 April 2014 (UTC)
::::After discussion with some of the other staff, we'd like to see a more finalized version of the draft you made before we give the final thumbs up for the split. Suggestion wise, I think a picture or two would be beneficial to help make the page "pop" a little more. I like the direction the page is headed in though and hope to follow up on it after it's developed a bit more. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 03:31, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
:::::Another user filled in the data I most needed, so I finally decided to put more work into this. I don't know how you expected me to add any pictures when this whole site is fishing for anything it can use, so instead, I [[User:Tiddlywinks/Juice Shoppe|decided to rework it]] so the information is laid out more evenly.
:::::I've still put off choosing a cohesive color scheme, but except for that (and the missing friendship data for the <Color> Juices), I consider that page complete, so I'd appreciate it if you could say whether (color scheme aside) that'd be worth a thumbs up now.
:::::...Actually, I'm also not sure what categories to give it, so maybe you could suggest (or add) a few? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:58, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
I went ahead and added some info on the berry groups and whatnot to the article's Juice Shoppe section. My worse fear was that it would make that section bulky, and I was right. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 00:39, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

:I agree wholeheartedly about the split. The Juice Shoppe section is too large. [[User:Mr. Guye|Mr. Guye]] ([[User talk:Mr. Guye|talk]]) 17:47, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

==Demographics==
Just wondering, but does anybody know what the population of Lumiose City is, because I noticed a lack of demographics section and a population number in the Kalos Region page. {{unsigned|Zallaraxium}}
:Would the disappearing pedestrians be counted? {{ci|Castelia}} has them too and yet has a stated population of 127. I would think only stationary residents are counted. --[[User:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|The]]Very[[User talk:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|Best]] 04:44, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
::I would think so, I wouldn't really know as I a new here. [[User:Zallaraxium|Zallaraxium]] ([[User talk:Zallaraxium|talk]]) 10:59, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
:::Taxi drivers count too. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 15:16, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
::::It has been added now, 416 people, that easily dwarfs all of the oter large cities [[User:Zallaraxium|Zallaraxium]] ([[User talk:Zallaraxium|talk]]) 20:07, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

==Pearl Strings and Furfrou styling==
So, I'm on a solid 18 days straight with my lovely Furfrou, and I'm not actually given any Pearl Strings by the only Madame in the shop. I must ask, where was this information gained? I believe it may be false. I can't seem to find good proof, but perhaps someone else can test this? [[User:Thieverpedia|Thieverpedia]] ([[User talk:Thieverpedia|talk]]) 23:28, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
:The article states that the Pearl Strings are from a Madame in Café Woof, not Friseur Furfrou (which is next door). Are you sure you're looking in the correct building? —[[User:Minimiscience|Minimiscience]] ([[User talk:Minimiscience|talk]]) 15:37, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
:Ah. That was the problem. I must have missed it when I was reading the small text on my tablet. Thanks for clearing that up! [[User:Thieverpedia|Thieverpedia]] ([[User talk:Thieverpedia|talk]]) 04:51, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

==Stylishness Redirects?==
I realise that there's already a redirect for "style", linking to the 'Style' section of this article, but should there also be redirects for 'Stylish' and 'Stylishness' to make them easier to find? Just an idea. [[User:Ben10do|–Ben10do]] ([[User talk:Ben10do|talk]]) 17:41, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
:Not to mention a table explaining how Style works, which is info we've had since [http://projectpokemon.org/forums/showthread.php?37269-X-Y-Save-File-Research#post181290 February…] --[[User:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|The]]Very[[User talk:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|Best]] 04:44, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

==Stone Emporium's Mega Stone==
I picked Bulbasaur as my Kanto starter and this article makes it seem like I can buy either Charizardite X or Blastoisinite now and the other in the post-game. However, the NPC will only sell me Charizardite X. I'm pretty sure this means that you actually have no choice in the order of Mega Stones, and that the first buyable one is for the starter with the advantage over yours, but I came here first as a formality. {{tt|If|another formality}} I'm right, this distinction needs to be stated in the {{DL|Lumiose City|Stone Emporium}} section. Furthermore, these Mega Stones aren't shown anywhere in the items section, only the ones given by Prof. Sycamore. They [[Lumiose City#Stone Emporium 2|belong here]] in a separate table that explains that they are sold by the elderly man in the Emporium, not the clerk, and with the aforementioned restrictions. --[[User:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|The]]Very[[User talk:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|Best]] 04:44, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
:Actually, I think I chose Squirtle (I already had Fennekin) and I'm being given the Venusaurite first. I think you are correct. Though it would have someone with Charizard chosen first to confirm this since it could also be going in stone order, with the Venusaurite first unless already claimed by choosing Bulbasaur. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 15:21, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

== Style/lottery ==

I just added data for style (thanks in part to info from a link above). I've not proceeded to (or especially near) the post-game as yet, so I couldn't add data for stuff like Sushi High Roller, but there's one really big question that stands out...style increases for the lottery.

When I didn't get any match at the lottery, I got 0 style. When I only matched 1 digit, I got 1 style. ...I don't know about any higher matches right now; while it'd make sense if the style increase equals the size of the match, that's just a guess right now. The big problem here is that it seems lotto numbers don't soft reset easily. So it'd be a big help if anyone who doesn't have max style could try the lotto and see how much style is increased if they get a 2-digit or larger match. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:28, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

== Is there really a Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}40,000? ==

Ok, this has been bugging me for a while now. Can someone verify if there really is a Rare Soda (Not Ultra Rare Soda) that costs {{pokedollar}}40,000 and increases level by 4?

I've run across lots of {{pokedollar}}30,000 Rare Sodas from the man, but I can't recall running into a {{pokedollar}}40,000 Rare Soda, Only Ultra Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}40,000.

It kind of seems pointless to have both a Rare Soda that raises lv by 4, and also have a Ultra Rare Soda that raises lv by 4. Why on green earth would GameFreak program in such a repetitive thing? [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 07:34, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

:Ok, I've soft reset 20 times and have not come across a '''Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}40,000'''. I've come across 6 Ultra Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}50,000, 1 Ultra Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}40,000, 4 Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}30,000 2 Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}20,000 and 3 {{pokedollar}}10,000 but not a single Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}40,000. Does the Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}40,000 show up in a guide, or was it editor generated? [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 22:10, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
::20 times isn't all bad, but you only actually saw 9 Rare Sodas, which makes a big(ger) difference. If you could find at least 30 different Rare Sodas and none are 40000, that'd be fairly weighty.
::...Which isn't to say I think there is a 40000 Rare Soda. Another user [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User:Tiddlywinks/Juice_Shoppe&diff=2104627&oldid=2103370 previously] edited exactly that on my Juice Shoppe page (possibly based on information from a guidebook). I mean, yeah, it doesn't really make sense to have a Rare Soda that adds 4 levels when you've got an Ultra Rare Soda that does that (for the same price). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:24, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
:::Well regardless this needs further Investigating. I am about to do another round of soft resets to see if I find the mystical Rare Soda. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 21:31, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
I unfortunately lost exact count how many times I soft reset, but It was at least 25 (had a note pad open and pressed enter for each soft reset, so the count is 25-27 with 25 defiantly the min) but I saw 3 Ultra Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}40,000, 5 Ultra Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}50,000, 2 Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}20,000 and 2 {{pokedollar}}10,000 7 Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}30,000. Next time I guess I will document each item shown with each soft reset. On a side note, it seems that Colorful Shake {{pokedollar}}5,000 exists, not sure if anything higher exists but that's the highest colorful shake I've ever come across.[[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 21:53, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
Ok, I did 25 soft resets and not once did the Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}40,000 show up.

I compiled the results with a Excel spread sheet that I also used to keep track of resets. In 25 soft resets I saw 8 Blue juices of various values. 8 Colorful Shakes of various values, one of which was '''OVER 9000!!!''' (lol sorry), 8 Green juices of various values. 9 Pink Juices of various values. 5 Purple Juices of various values. 4 Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}10,000, 5 Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}20,000 and 4 Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}30,000. Again, 0 Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}40,000 to be found. There were 7 Red Juices of various values. I saw 2 Ultra Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}40,000 and 3 Ultra Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}50,000. I also saw 12 Yellow juices of various values.

http://dc700.4shared.com/img/3YBoAKi-ce/s7/1467b3ad640/Snapshot_20140608.JPG?

The only significant find in that test was that Colorful Shake can sell as High, maybe higher then {{pokedollar}}10,000 Coincidentally, that was on the 25th soft reset.

Given that in the last week I've soft reset somewhere in the neighborhood of 75 times, I should have statistically came across the Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}40,000 by now. The more I soft reset, the more I am believing the Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}40,000 is a mistaken identity for a Ultra Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}40,000 [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 11:44, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

==PR Video==
I know we don't have much on it right now, but I think "Trainer PR Video" should be an article. We could list all the different effects and makeup stuff. [[User:GreenFlame|GreenFlame]] ([[User talk:GreenFlame|talk]]) 00:19, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
:I entirely agree. That's why I actually started [[Trainer PR Video|such a page]]. What it primarily needs at the moment is coverage of the creation/editing of videos; except for that, it's basically ready for the mainspace. I just haven't had the motivation to make myself sit down and write that up. (It's also missing a couple of the captions in English still and a section for the makeup, but those are pretty easy fixes.)
:I'll see about writing the "Making" section to my satisfaction tomorrow or so, but if I can't make myself do that and if you're willing, I might be willing to let you have at it. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:51, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
::I've got some ideas for an article I guess and I could handle the makeup part, but where do I put them? Also apologies about putting comments in the wrong place, I'm new to this.[[User:GreenFlame|GreenFlame]] ([[User talk:GreenFlame|talk]]) 06:01, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
:::I'll try to do what needs doing myself tomorrow, you don't need to worry about where to put anything (hopefully at all, as far as PR Videos go). I just haven't had any motivation to take even the time it'd require. If I need anything, I'll let you know what's up. =) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 06:29, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

== Style chart ==

[[User:Ocelot King|Ocelot King]] ([[User talk:Ocelot King|talk]]) 02:38, 5 June 2015 (UTC) I went into Café Introversion to get the Hatching Power, and got it. Then I went into The Stone Emporium and the Mega Stone was only discounted to 50,000. I think that the Style benefits chart is wrong.

== add kalos league anime ==

according to the latest pokemon anime episode, the kalos league will be in lumiose city so could someone please add that? [[User:Alondon17|Alondon17]] ([[User talk:Alondon17|talk]]) 11:16, 26 May 2016 (UTC)

== Split ==

This page, like its namesake, is huge and difficult to navigate. Each of the major sections of the page is already divided between the different sections of the city. If the page was split into individual pages for each of the major roads, information on South Boulevard wouldn't need to be separated by information on the rest of the city and could much more easily be managed. This would also allow space for more images to identify locations in the city, easing navigation by users. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 01:51, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

:That seems to be a good idea. But I can't actually do it, for I'm not autoconfirmed yet and thus can't create pages. [[User:AquaMaster777|AquaMaster777]] ([[User talk:AquaMaster777|talk]]) 19:13, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

::I second this proposal as well. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 04:36, 13 October 2018 (UTC)

:::I think we should have an overview article on the whole of the city, then link to the sections in the page. Also make the section articles available by search, of course. [[User:DoubleDeckerDave|DoubleDeckerDave]] ([[User talk:DoubleDeckerDave|talk]]) 14:40, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

::::I created an account purely for the sake of bumping this suggestion. There's a lot of content in Lumiose city, although i'll never get to most of it in-game. Even just walking through that stupid city gives me nausea and headaches, literally and figuratively. [[User:Lusamine is bae|Lusamine is bae]] ([[User talk:Lusamine is bae|talk]]) 01:40, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

== Trainer locations ==

Does anyone even know where all ten Trainers even are? I only know of seven, thanks to [https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/66464a83-76b4-4d9e-841f-c3b033f103b8/d6r3yi4-02fa6935-5cde-408a-82e6-562a83a939a2.jpg/v1/fill/w_1024,h_1221,q_75,strp/lumiose_city_map_by_rain_of_ashes-d6r3yi4.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJpc3MiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwic3ViIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsImF1ZCI6WyJ1cm46c2VydmljZTppbWFnZS5vcGVyYXRpb25zIl0sIm9iaiI6W1t7InBhdGgiOiIvZi82NjQ2NGE4My03NmI0LTRkOWUtODQxZi1jM2IwMzNmMTAzYjgvZDZyM3lpNC0wMmZhNjkzNS01Y2RlLTQwOGEtODJlNi01NjJhODNhOTM5YTIuanBnIiwid2lkdGgiOiI8PTEwMjQiLCJoZWlnaHQiOiI8PTEyMjEifV1dfQ.jivXKYgpKZCmXBQOtCfxR1UjcBe-Dfne6rs8Mg-qoFQ this image], but the other three are still unknown.

Also not sure how to spawn these Trainers, once I've beaten them...

* Garçon Jacopo is in the alleyway past Loto-ID.
* Waitress Paget is near Bleu Plaza, on the way to the Southern Boulevard.
* Owner Toro is also near Bleu Plaza, on the way to Prism Tower - i.e. opposite Paget.
* Chef Kamaboko is past Paget, in a hidden alleyway.
* Preeetty sure Punk Girl Lillian is near Vert Plaza, opposite Cafe Cyclone.
* Punk Guy Faust is in an alleyway north of Rouge Plaza, opposite Sushi High Roller.
* Black Belt Killian is in the alleyway north of Restaurant Le Wow.

No idea where the three Beauties are.

EDIT: Beauty Aimee is near Vert Plaza, outside Cafe Cyclone.
Beauty Anais is in the back alleyway linking Jaune Plaza to Hibernal Avenue, past Trevor's house.--[[User:PokeMaster99999|PokeMaster99999]] ([[User talk:PokeMaster99999|talk]]) 09:17, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

Talk:Lumiose City

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==Name Similarities to Illumise==
Should it be noted that Lumiose City's French name, Illumis; is almost the same as [[Illumise]]? [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 03:40, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

==Pikachu==
Minor speculation but i can't help but notice the pikachu in the picture. Either this is just because it's the franchise mascot or pokemon from gens 1 to 5 will be in Kalos unlike Unova's first two games. --[[User:Bomyne|Bomyne]] ([[User talk:Bomyne|talk]]) 11:43, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
:[[a:File:XY Pokedex.png|We know]] that Zigzagoon (and Linoone) will be in the Kalos Pokédex. However, Pikachu might just make a cameo, like it did in [[Castelia City]] and like Shroomish did in [[Hearthome City]].--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 11:57, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
:: In the announcement trailer back in Jan where Pikachu is on the tower, they mention that favorite old Pokémon would make an appearance, and they showed an encounter with a wild Pikachu.
:: Also, while this part is speculation on my own behalf; with the emphasis on light for this city, the tower's tip might light up. It is also likely, if it does light up, it does so possibly with the aid of a (Electric-Type) Pokémon much in the same way that the lighthouse in Olivine City (did I get the right city, been a long time since I played G&S.) Plus Pikachu was shown using its electricity on top of the tower in the announcement trailer. I wouldn't be surprise if a whole slew of Electric-Type Pokémon could be found in and near Lumiose City. But, we'll have to wait and see. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 21:18, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
:::Well it would go with the name (Luminose=Light=Electricity=Electric Pokemon). And yes Yamitora the city you are thinking of is Olivine City. [[User:Nuckles123|Nuckles123]] ([[User talk:Nuckles123|talk]]) 21:33, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

==Tourism==
Why does this page sound like it has been taken from a travel book all of a sudden? Doesn't sound professional. [[User:Nuckles123|Nuckles123]] ([[User talk:Nuckles123|talk]]) 00:20, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
: I shortened and dulled it down. I don't see how it was Touristy. Also thanks ‎ArcToraphim for the fix. I keep forgetting to do that when linking Pokémon names to their articles. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 01:40, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
:: It sounded touristy to me because of the mention to shopping and fine dining but it reads more professional now. Also, for creating Pokemon templates, do {{p|Name of Pokemon} } <--(but without this extra space). [[User:Nuckles123|Nuckles123]] ([[User talk:Nuckles123|talk]]) 02:21, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

==Lumiose City Gym==
In the 3rd Pokémon X and Y trailer, at 0:34, there is an image of the tower in the centre of the city. At the entrance of the tower is the same symbol that is in front of the Santalune City Gym, in the 2nd trailer, at 0:42. This symbol is the Gym symbol from Unova, so it is safe to assume that Lumiose City also has a Gym. From Kalos' map, Lumiose City is the 3rd Location to visit, after Vaniville and Santalune, so it could be the 2nd Gym, although it could act like Petalburg or Viridian and have the Gym challenged later on. Since Lumiose City is based on Paris, the City of Lights, then the Gym type could be Electric or Fairy (there probably will be some sort of Fairy Gym/Elite Four Member somewhere in Kalos), but this is very speculative. [[User:Xolotl|Xolotl]] ([[User talk:Xolotl|talk]]) 10:21, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
:I too, noticed this in the trailer. The gym logo is also visible in a screenshot for Pokémon X and Y (I think there is a YouTube video pointing this out.), so I would think that it is fair to say that it is not just an animé variation. There have however been gyms in the animé that have not appeared in games such as those of the [[Orange Archipelago]], and unofficial gyms, including a fake gym set up by [[Team Rocket]], but I would think it unusual to have an unofficial gym ''in-game''. Of course the ''typing'' of the gym is completely speculative, however, I think that the fact that there ''is'' a Lumiose Gym is pretty conclusive.--[[User:ShinyPatch|ShinyPatch]] ([[User talk:ShinyPatch|talk]]) 18:19, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
::The odds are pretty high that it has an actual Gym, but I have to point out that it's not unprecedented to have an unofficial Gym in-game — see the [[Fighting Dojo]] in Saffron City. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 18:26, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

== Korean name for Lumiose City ==

Its Korean name is 미스시티 ''Miseu {{tt|Siti|City}}''.
* I suspect it's based on the English word "myth", although that would be transliterated as 미쓰. Alternatively, 미스 could be "Miss" (whether "female tiitle" or "opposite of hit"), but I have my doubts. I'll have to get back to this. -- [[User:Nick15|Nick15]] ([[User talk:Nick15|talk]]) 23:01, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

== Plants and Lights? ==

How come all of the other cities and towns in Kalos so far are named after plants, yet Lumiose city is named after Paris' nickname 'the city of lights'? Shouldn't it be added to the trivia that Lumiose city is the only one not named after a plant? [[User:Ziggyangelo88|Ziggyangelo88]] ([[User talk:Ziggyangelo88|talk]]) 07:47, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
:We don't know all the cities, so we don't know yet whether another will be not named after a plant. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 07:48, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

==Prism Tower==
It should be worth noted that the Eiffel-Tower like thing is called Prism Tower. [[User:Dinodestroyer|Dinodestroyer]] ([[User talk:Dinodestroyer|talk]]) 11:07, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

==The second story of one of the north buildings==
I went there and something... odd happened. Im not even sure what it was. A very strange NPC is all i can say without spoiling. You'd know it if you saw it. well whatever it was, its clearly worth mentioning. If anyone has a clue what this thing was or what it meant, that should probably be included in the article somewhere. I think it was the building with the Dojo/Dance school on top, with the 2nd floor totally empty. I can't be sure because it only happened the one time and there are no signs left behind.

So yeah. That. Anyone know what that was and can put it on the page? [[User:PowerPlantRaichu|PowerPlantRaichu]] ([[User talk:PowerPlantRaichu|talk]]) 03:07, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
:No. You aren't the one. Yes, the dojo was on top. Given the servers and computers in the room, I surmise that it could be Game Freak, but the NPC makes me think event possibly. [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] ([[User talk:TruePikachu|talk]]) 09:52, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

==Looker Bureau==
Can somebody put something explaining this? I would, but I do not have the time. It is after you go to Anistar City and receive the Mega Ring upgrade. I would appreciate it, and I will help where I can.--[[User:Darkmaster|Darkmaster]] ([[User talk:Darkmaster|talk]]) 03:40, 26 October 2013 (UTC) As I said, I would do it all, but I have neither the time or the experience to do it. {{unsigned|Darkmaster}}

== On the glitches thing shall we put about this ghost girl? ==

Apparently there's this ghost girl thing which people are talking about. Is this a glitch if so put it on the glitches. I'm not sure if it's a reference to Unova about that girl in the Strange House or just a glitch. If anyone does know can someone either add it in the glitches or make note of it in the trivia section?--[[User:Hydreigonfan1|Hydreigonfan1]] ([[User talk:Hydreigonfan1|talk]]) 18:27, 27 October 2013 (UTC)
:It's pretty clear to me that it's not a glitch. It's just supposed to be a creepy thing they put into the game. --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 18:29, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

:: they put a ghost (or a few) in each game, so far i can remember DPP's house where u can find rotom, there's 2 ghosts there, also the girl in the bridge and in the abandoned house in BWB2B2 --[[User:Cabasho|Cabasho]] 10:06 11 November 2013 (-5 GMT)

== Sushi High Roller requirements ==

Can anyone help verify the requirements to get into Sushi High Roller? I know the only requirement isn't being the Champion, but I know it is one since the NPC that lets you in mentions it. I know there is something else since after becoming Champion, I did a bunch of style stuff and the Looker side quests and got access after that. Someone updated it to say the Looker sidequests are the other prereq, but that seems weird to me. Don't those also increase your style by completing them? Unfortunately, I don't know for a fact if completing that was what gave me access or not. [[User:Linkmastr001|Linkmastr001]] ([[User talk:Linkmastr001|talk]]) 21:39, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

Actually, I had a thought. One thing I did before doing this restaurant was participate in each of the other restaurants, perhaps that is the other requirement? [[User:Linkmastr001|Linkmastr001]] ([[User talk:Linkmastr001|talk]]) 01:48, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

I did that and beat the Elite Four, anyone else had that experience? -[[User:IVsaur|EVsandIVsaurs]] 01:56, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
:"The player needs to have become the Champion, completed the side quest, and have gotten his or her style up in the city."
:So is this meant to refer to the Looker sidequests? Because "the side quest" is completely unclear and I have no idea what I'm supposed to do. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 17:13, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

==Stone Emporium==
Does anyone know whether or not this shop gets more than just Leaf, Fire and Water Stones post game?--[[User:Ditto51|Tom]] ([[User_Talk:Ditto51|My Talk Page]]) 10:16, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
:Doesn't seem to do so. I think that's it unless you get more for becoming a full celebrity in Lumiose. I'm getting close to that stage (Venusarite is only 70,000, once it gets to 10,000 I will know). ☆[[User:Solar Dragon|The]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|Solar]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|Dragon]]☆ 10:23, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

==Sushi High Roller prize==
Has anyone completed a course? If so, what did you get? Apparently it's Big Nuggets, but the quantities are still undetermined on Bulbapedia. -- [[User:Pringles|Pringles]] 01:06, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

havent done it myself but the it says it is imposible to turn out profit from this restaurant... if the info presented here is correct, then its true, but the loss can be lowered to 191760 if using a double money item during the battles (such as an amulet coin). -- [[User:Cabasho|Cabasho]] 10:03 11 November 2013 (-5 GMT)
:Wait... 30k * 25 = 750k; 750k->500k... so what. [[User:Uploader|Uploader]] ([[User talk:Uploader|talk]]) 17:55, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
::Just checked on this, 30,000 for each Big Nugget and a perfect is 25 of them. You make profit since you get over $500,000 when selling... Not sure how you would be ''losing'' profit here. Anyone mind fixing up that trivia error? ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 04:11, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Wrong. In X/Y, you can sell the Big Nuggets for only 10,000 (not 30,000 like in Gen V). Therefore, you do NOT make profit in Sushi High Roller. Here's my result, using Amulet Coin + Prize Money Power lv 2, Triple Battle course.

'''1,454,404''' (my amount of money prior to selecting a course)
-450,000 (entrance cost)

1,004,404 (my amount of money prior to battling)
+18,720
+18,720
+18,720
+18,720
+41,600
+250,000 (10,000 x 25)

I ends up with '''1,370,884''' which means '''a loss'''.
So yeah, '''no''' profit, at least with PMP lv 2. I haven't try PMP lv 3. But if even with Amulet Coin and PMP lv 2 I still get a loss, that clearly means without Amulet Coin and PMP, the loss will be even greater....and even if using PMP lv 3 lets us receive some profit, it's still bad, as you must use the strongest boost just to receive a small amount of profit. Sushi High Roller? More like Sushi High ''Troll''er.[[User:Magnezone|Magnezone]] ([[User talk:Magnezone|talk]]) 01:09, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

:Then let me make a suggestion as to determine this, use Prize Money Power Level 3 + Luck Incense/Amulet Coin(Doesn't seem to stack) + {{m|Happy Hour}}. If that doesn't work, then we will need to say that the only way to make a profit is to use Pay Day to be able to make a profit. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 01:37, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
:: Extrapolating the results from your data.

-450,000 (entrance cost)
+ 56,160 (9,360 is assumed to be the amount with the Amulet Coin, *3 with PMP 3, *2 with Happy Hour)
+ 56,160
+ 56,160
+ 56,160
+ 124,800 (20,800 is assumed to be the amount with the Amulet Coin, *3 with PMP 3, *2 with Happy Hour)
+ 250,000 (250,000 is the normal sell value of 25 Big Nuggets.)
That means the balance should become a net gain of 149,440. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 18:44, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

==Splitting up the article==
Given the current size of the article, and that it's still marked "incomplete," it would probably be a good idea to start giving certain sections their own articles. {{redlink|Hotel Richissime}} should probably be first, as it's currently the most well-developed section. I'm also planning, when I get the time, to transcribe all of the Lumiose Museum audio guides and use them in making a page for that building as well. Any objections or suggestions for further splitting? —[[User:Minimiscience|Minimiscience]] ([[User talk:Minimiscience|talk]]) 00:36, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
:The restaurants use a fair amount of templates, which makes them a pretty good candidate to split off if we're trying to do it for size purposes. I agree that Hotel Richissime can be split off; the Lumiose Museum stuff sounds like it'd be more quote-heavy than content-heavy, so it might be suited more as a subpage of this article than its own article, though that's probably something for a staff member to decide. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 00:41, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
::Lumiose Museum would have a lot of quotes, though (there are 20-30 paintings in it), and some of the paintings appear to be art from previous games that's already on the Archives, so I'd imagine we'd want to include those in the Museum's section/article, making it longer and more article-worthy. —[[User:Minimiscience|Minimiscience]] ([[User talk:Minimiscience|talk]]) 00:51, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
:::Yeah, I'd say this article could certainly use splitting up. The Hotel Richissime and Lumiose Museum getting their own pages would work. Restaurants maybe. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 03:31, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

[[Hotel Richissime]] is now a separate article. —[[User:Minimiscience|Minimiscience]] ([[User talk:Minimiscience|talk]]) 04:19, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

[[Lumiose Museum]] is now an article. The formatting could probably use some work. —[[User:Minimiscience|Minimiscience]] ([[User talk:Minimiscience|talk]]) 09:31, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

==Pokemon Centers==
Should it be noted that Lumiose City is the first and only city in the entire Pokemon World to have more than one Pokemon Center within the city? I'm a bit surprised nobody has brought this up. {{unsigned|Noah★|17:38, 27 December 2013 (UTC)}}
:That's because it's not. [[Ever Grande City]] was the first. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 17:43, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

== Rare Soda and Ultra Rare Soda Evoltuion ==

Ok, so I bought an Ultra Rare Soda (50,000 pokedollars), gave it to my lv 34 Servine which increased its level to lv 39, and she did not evolve. Is this possibly only Ultra Rare Soda, or does also raise level but does not invoke evolution?[[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 06:50, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

== Restaurants ==

Has anyone really figured out how the restaurants are scored aside from number of turns and Pokémon fainted? For some reason, I actually got 24 Balm Mushrooms in Le Wow when I completed the entire Double Battle course in 10 turns and no faints, but actually got a ''smaller'' reward (around 19-21) when I completed the entire thing in one turn per battle. From what I've seen, at least, you seem to get a better reward for getting closer to the designated turn count over taken the least possible amount of turns. This really doesn't seem right and I'm starting to think that there is more to the scoring. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy (瀬藤健二)]] ([[User talk:Schiffy|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|Contribs]]) 22:01,1/13/2014 (UTC)
:I don't see what you're having an issue with... You're not supposed to go for the least possible amount of turns, since the point is to hit the target number of turns ''exactly''. Going over ''or'' under will detract from the reward, and I think the article's pretty clear about that. Unless I've misunderstood your question? [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 03:52, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
::"For each faint or turn difference, the player will receive one less of the reward item." - Ignore me, I'm stupid and I can't read. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy (瀬藤健二)]] ([[User talk:Schiffy|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|Contribs]]) 05:16,1/14/2014 (UTC)

==Discount Coupon==
So, from what I gathered from the PGL and my game, the Discount Coupon seems to have the following properties:
:#They cost zero Poké Miles
:#They can be used one time at {{tt|''any'' Boutique|it's mentioned on this page already, hence why I'm using this talk page}} (seemingly on one item, but that also might be one full transaction); and give you 50% off
:#They can be sold to a Poké Mart for {{PD}}10
:#They can only be obtained once
:#They go in the main Items slot
:#They have the following description: "This special coupon allows you to buy items at a discount when you are shopping at a boutique."
I can't seem to find a page of (non key) items introduced in Gen VI if there is one, so I'm leaving the information here in hopes of finding said page. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy (瀬藤健二)]] ([[User talk:Schiffy|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|Contribs]]) 19:52,1/15/2014 (UTC)
:Wouldn't it fit best in [[exchangeable item]]s? It's only function is to be exchanged after all. And I recall the Bulbanews article saying you could buy multiple items. [[User:Glik|Glik]] ([[User talk:Glik|talk]]) 21:10, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
::Well, to start off, I set it up [[Bulbapedia:Sandbox#Discount Coupon|here]], since there's still a few things missing, for sure. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy (瀬藤健二)]] ([[User talk:Schiffy|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|Contribs]]) 23:01,1/15/2014 (UTC)

== Soft Resetting Changes the Menu in the Juice Shoppe ==

So, I discovered soft resetting changes the Juice Shoppe Menu to some degree under certain circumstances.

I was leveling up two 5IV Charmander (one Impish, one Careful) to see which had the best Attack of the two (Only HP, Def, Sp.Atk, Sp. Def and Speed are 31IV)

Well I used rare candies while in Kiloude City to get them the first one (Impish) to level 21, then I flew to Lumiose City to see if the Juice Shoppe was selling Rare or Ultra Rare Soda. I know its a gamble, but it paid of, they were selling Rare Soda for 20k. So that got it to level 23.

I soft reset, repeated the rare candies and then flew from Kiloude to Lumiose and when I got to the Juice Shoppe, the Rare Soda was now 50k Ultra Rare Soda, which was surprising. So I was able to get the Careful Charmander to level 26 instead of lv 23 like I had the Impish one.

I have saved and then soft reset before inside the shoppe and the menu stayed the same. This time however I had saved in Kiloude and flew back to the Juice Shoppe. If I were to guess, I would assume that the menu changes based on similar math that a roaming Pokémon's route changes. This needs further investigation, but if proven to some degree, would soft resetting to change the menu be worth noting in the article/Juice Shoppe section? [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 15:57, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
:Well, I screwed up in my attempt to investigate this further, but it wasn't a total lost.

:So after I soft reset and flew back to the Juice Shoppe, the menu changed again, this time to the 20k rare soda and a 40k Ultra rare soda and a pink 2100 juice. I saved after seeing these items, now the menu is stuck as that..so it seems as long as you save before you find out the menu, it is not locked in and can be changed with further soft resets. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 16:04, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

==Restaurant Stars==
It mentions in the article that if you complete the selected option for battling (Double, Triple, Rotation, ect) and get a perfect score, then a star appears next to that option. However do these stars actually do anything? Like if I completed all of them perfectly, would I get a discount or something important like that? [[User:Darkcloud1111|'''''Darkcloud1111''''']][[User talk:Darkcloud1111|'''~Fastest Hero Alive''']] 20:44, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
:I think its mostly a Aesthetic badge of honor showing that you've achieved the goal for that battle option. I've noticed no change outside of that in terms of price or prize money.[[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 21:43, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
::I have just got perfect scores/stars in every battle type in all 4 restaurants and it doesn't seem to do anything other that allow you to tip that restaurant $10,000 and have the person that serves you at the counter have different dialog (treating you like a regular customer). I though it might add a star/change the color of my Trainer Card, but I guess not! --[[User:Evacino|'''evacino''']][[User talk:Evacino|''' (talk)''']] 15:49, 17 February 2014 (GMT)

==Do Cookies Go With Milk?==
I've been buying Lumiose Galettes for a LONG time, and I've never received a Moomoo Milk. [[User:NerfPlayeR135|NerfPlayeR135]] ([[User talk:NerfPlayeR135|talk]]) 00:25, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
:I think you only get the Moomoo Milk if you buy a Galette within an hour of a sale starting (i.e., from 3 to 4 or from 9 to 10), and even then I think you only get one per day. —[[User:Minimiscience|Minimiscience]] ([[User talk:Minimiscience|talk]]) 16:08, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

== Help Needed Roseli Berry used in Ultra Rare Soda it seems, whats the other berry? ==

So, I saw a image of a snapshot taken of the Roseli berry's official guide entry, and it states the berry newcomer is one of the ingredients needed to make Ultra Rare Soda.

It took me a 1 hour and 10 minutes but I tested each combination of Roseli berry with the berries I have, and none worked.

The only berries I have yet to test are...
Starf Berry (which is needed to make normal Rare Soda)
Enigma Berry
Micle Berry
Custap Berry
Jaboca Berry
Rowap Berry

Those six berries I do not possess, so testing them on my side is impossible. so could someone test the other berries if possible? [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 06:21, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
:I'm sure we spoke about this in the forums today, but I forgot to mention that I am willing to try to get my hands on a Starf so I can test it out (unless if someone else has tested it). We'd have to wait on the other 5 Berries you listed since they aren't available in X and Y yet. [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 01:45, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
::yes we did, hopefully we can test this soon. As for the other 5, I was wondering about how we even know if those are in the game or not. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 02:06, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
:::Good news: I got my hands on a Starf, and I have plenty of Roseli, so I can test. However, the combination gives a Mixed Shake. Once the other 5 are made available, we can test those. [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 02:45, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
Ok thank you, that sure helps. Well lets hope the other berries are released soon. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 05:12, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

==Restaurant Template==
Should we switch the current trainer template in those restaurants to the template which features Pokémon moves? (I don't know what's that called)
It is better to know their moves, so we could somehow prepare in advance to earn the stars. --[[User:Yukyankee|Yukyankee]] ([[User talk:Yukyankee|talk]]) 16:03, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

==Style & Tiers==
SciresM went and figured out how style works, and at what Style decreases Mega Stone prices. If you want a table of it for here, read more at ProjectPokemon [http://projectpokemon.org/forums/showthread.php?37269-X-Y-Save-File-Research#post181290]. [[User:Kaphotics|Kaphotics]] ([[User talk:Kaphotics|talk]]) 01:15, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

==Pokemon Center Poke Miles shop, Heart Scale?==
I just moved a shop listing for items exchangeable for Poke Miles to this page. In the process, I deleted an entry for Heart Scales that was [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pok%C3%A9_Mile&oldid=2084166 previously] included in the shop. I doubt this is true (in [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dm4g370aCrw a YouTube video] of someone who's beaten the Elite Four, it doesn't appear on their list of items; I can't readily imagine any circumstance that might add Heart Scales to that shop, then), but I just wanted to leave this note so maybe other people could check it on their games. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:28, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
::No HeartScale from the guy's menu, only acquirable thru the global link shop [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 05:40, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

== Juice Shoppe Berry Mixing Research ==

Ok, so right now I am researching and collecting data on mixing red berries together to see how strong the juice they make is.

Results so far

{| class="roundy" style="border: 2px solid #111111; background:#555555; margin-right: 5px; margin-bottom: 5px"
|-
! colspan="2" rowspan="2" |
! colspan="10" style="{{roundytr|5px}} background:#999999" | Second Berry
|-
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Cheri Berry Sprite.png]]
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Leppa Berry Sprite.png]]
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Figy Berry Sprite.png]]
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Pomeg Berry Sprite.png]]
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Tamato Berry Sprite.png]]
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Occa Berry Sprite.png]]
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Chople Berry Sprite.png]]
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Haban Berry Sprite.png]]
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Liechi Berry Sprite.png]]
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Lansat Berry Sprite.png]]
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! rowspan="10" style="background:#999999" | F i r s t B e r r y
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Cheri Berry Sprite.png]]
| 4
| 8
| 16
| 16
| 16
| N/A
| 12
| 12
| 16
| 16
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Leppa Berry Sprite.png]]
| 8
| 4
| 16
| 16
| 16
| N/A
| 12
| 12
| 16
| 16
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Figy Berry Sprite.png]]
| 16
| 16
| 12
| 32
| 32
| N/A
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Pomeg Berry Sprite.png]]
| 16
| 16
| 32
| 12
| 32
| N/A
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Tamato Berry Sprite.png]]
| 16
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 12
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Occa Berry Sprite.png]]
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Chople Berry Sprite.png]]
| 12
| 12
| 32
| 32
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Haban Berry Sprite.png]]
| 12
| 12
| 32
| 32
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Liechi Berry Sprite.png]]
| 16
| 16
| 32
| 32
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Lansat Berry Sprite.png]]
| 16
| 16
| 32
| 32
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
|-
| colspan="12" style="{{roundybottom|5px}}; background:#999999" |
|}{{-}}

Since making a chart with all 50+ available in-game berries would be too hard (I tried, I wanted to go on a murderous rampage using a kantana followed by Hari kari) this seems to be the best way to show the effects of mixing each berries, at least within the same color group. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 08:49, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

:Ok, here is a updated red berry chart and the charts for the other berries. The colored numbers will be explained later down...

Red Berry Chart
{| class="roundy" style="text-align:center; font-size:90%; border: 2px solid #111; background:#555; margin-right: 5px; margin-bottom: 5px"
|-
! colspan="2" rowspan="2" |
! colspan="10" style="{{roundytr|5px}} background:#999; font-size:111%" | Second Berry
|- style="background:#FF5656"
! [[File:Bag Cheri Berry Sprite.png|link=Cheri Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Leppa Berry Sprite.png|link=Leppa Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Figy Berry Sprite.png|link=Figy Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Pomeg Berry Sprite.png|link=Pomeg Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Tamato Berry Sprite.png|link=Tamato Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Occa Berry Sprite.png|link=Occa Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Chople Berry Sprite.png|link=Chople Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Haban Berry Sprite.png|link=Haban Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Liechi Berry Sprite.png|link=Liechi Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Lansat Berry Sprite.png|link=Lansat Berry]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
! rowspan="10" style="background:#999" | F i r s t B e r r y
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Cheri Berry Sprite.png|link=Cheri Berry]]
| style="background:#FF8989" | 4
| 8
| 16
| 16
| 16
| 12
| 12
| 12
| 16
| 16
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Leppa Berry Sprite.png|link=Leppa Berry]]
| 8
| style="background:#FF8989" | 4
| 16
| 16
| 16
| 12
| 12
| 12
| 16
| 16
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Figy Berry Sprite.png|link=Figy Berry]]
| 16
| 16
| style="background:#FF5656" | 12
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Pomeg Berry Sprite.png|link=Pomeg Berry]]
| 16
| 16
| 32
| style="background:#FF5656" | 12
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Tamato Berry Sprite.png|link=Tamato Berry]]
| 16
| 16
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#FF5656" | 12
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Occa Berry Sprite.png|link=Occa Berry]]
| 12
| 12
| 32
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#FF7070" | 8
| 16
| 16
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Chople Berry Sprite.png|link=Chople Berry]]
| 12
| 12
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 16
| style="background:#FF7070" | 8
| 16
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Haban Berry Sprite.png|link=Haban Berry]]
| 12
| 12
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 16
| 16
| style="background:#FF7070" | 8
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Liechi Berry Sprite.png|link=Liechi Berry]]
| 16
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#FF5656" | 12
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Lansat Berry Sprite.png|link=Lansat Berry]]
| 16
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#FF5656" | 12
|-
| colspan="12" style="{{roundybottom|5px}}; background:#999" |
|}{{-}}

Purple Berry Chart
{| class="roundy" style="text-align:center; font-size:90%; border: 2px solid #111; background:#555; margin-right: 5px; margin-bottom: 5px"
|-
! colspan="2" rowspan="2" |
! colspan="6" style="{{roundytr|5px}} background:#999; font-size:111%" | Second Berry
|- style="background:#b154ba"
! [[File:Bag Chesto Berry Sprite.png|link=Chesto Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Wiki Berry Sprite.png|link=Wiki Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Payapa Berry Sprite.png|link=Payapa Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Kasib Berry Sprite.png|link=Kasib Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Colbur Berry Sprite.png|link=Colbur Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Ganlon Berry Sprite.png|link=Ganlon Berry]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
! rowspan="6" style="background:#999" | F i r s t B e r r y
! style="background:#b154ba" | [[File:Bag Chesto Berry Sprite.png|link=Chesto Berry]]
| style="background:#c278c9" | 4
| 16
| 12
| 12
| 12
| 16
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#b154ba" | [[File:Bag Wiki Berry Sprite.png|link=Wiki Berry]]
| 16
| style="background:#b154ba" | 12
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#b154ba" | [[File:Bag Payapa Berry Sprite.png|link=Payapa Berry]]
| 12
| 32
| style="background:#b966c1" | 8
| 16
| 16
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#b154ba" | [[File:Bag Kasib Berry Sprite.png|link=Kasib Berry]]
| 12
| 32
| 16
| style="background:#b966c1" | 8
| 16
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#b154ba" | [[File:Bag Colbur Berry Sprite.png|link=Colbur Berry]]
| 12
| 32
| 16
| 16
| style="background:#b966c1" | 8
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#b154ba" | [[File:Bag Ganlon Berry Sprite.png|link=Ganlon Berry]]
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#b154ba" | 12
|-
| colspan="8" style="{{roundybottom|5px}}; background:#999" |
|}{{-}}

Pink Berry Chart
{| class="roundy" style="text-align:center; font-size:90%; border: 2px solid #111; background:#555; margin-right: 5px; margin-bottom: 5px"
|-
! colspan="2" rowspan="2" |
! colspan="5" style="{{roundytr|5px}} background:#999; font-size:111%" | Second Berry
|- style="background:#{{fairy color}}"
! [[File:Bag Pecha Berry Sprite.png|link=Pecha Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Persim Berry Sprite.png|link=Persim Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Mago Berry Sprite.png|link=Mago Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Petaya Berry Sprite.png|link=Petaya Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Roseli Berry Sprite.png|link=Roseli Berry]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
! rowspan="5" style="background:#999" | F i r s t B e r r y
! style="background:#{{fairy color}}" | [[File:Bag Pecha Berry Sprite.png|link=Pecha Berry]]
| style="background:#f8d3db" | 4
| 12
| 16
| 16
| 16
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#{{fairy color}}" | [[File:Bag Persim Berry Sprite.png|link=Persim Berry]]
| 12
| style="background:#{{fairy color light}}" | 8
| 32
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#{{fairy color}}" | [[File:Bag Mago Berry Sprite.png|link=Mago Berry]]
| 16
| 32
| style="background:#{{fairy color}}" | 12
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#{{fairy color}}" | [[File:Bag Petaya Berry Sprite.png|link=Petaya Berry]]
| 16
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#{{fairy color}}" | 12
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#{{fairy color}}" | [[File:Bag Roseli Berry Sprite.png|link=Roseli Berry]]
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#{{fairy color}}" | 12
|-
| colspan="9" style="{{roundybottom|5px}}; background:#999" |
|}{{-}}

Green Berry Chart
{| class="roundy" style="text-align:center; font-size:90%; border: 2px solid #111; background:#555; margin-right: 5px; margin-bottom: 5px"
|-
! colspan="2" rowspan="2" |
! colspan="10" style="{{roundytr|5px}} background:#999; font-size:111%" | Second Berry
|- style="background:#56FF56"
! [[File:Bag Rawst Berry Sprite.png|link=Rawst Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Lum Berry Sprite.png|link=Lum Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Aguav Berry Sprite.png|link=Aguav Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Hondew Berry Sprite.png|link=Hondew Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Rindo Berry Sprite.png|link=Rindo Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Kebia Berry Sprite.png|link=Kebia Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Tanga Berry Sprite.png|link=Tanga Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Babiri Berry Sprite.png|link=Babiri Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Salac Berry Sprite.png|link=Salac Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Starf Berry Sprite.png|link=Starf Berry]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
! rowspan="10" style="background:#999" | F i r s t B e r r y
! style="background:#56FF56" | [[File:Bag Rawst Berry Sprite.png|link=Rawst Berry]]
| style="background:#89FF98" | 4
| 12
| 16
| 16
| 12
| 12
| 12
| 12
| 16
| 16
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#56FF56" | [[File:Bag Lum Berry Sprite.png|link=Lum Berry]]
| 12
| style="background:#70FF70" | 8
| 32
| 32
| 16
| 16
| 16
| 16
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#56FF56" | [[File:Bag Aguav Berry Sprite.png|link=Aguav Berry]]
| 16
| 32
| style="background:#56FF56" | 12
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#56FF56" | [[File:Bag Hondew Berry Sprite.png|link=Hondew Berry]]
| 16
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#56FF56" | 12
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#56FF56" | [[File:Bag Rindo Berry Sprite.png|link=Rindo Berry]]
| 12
| 16
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#70FF70" | 8
| 16
| 16
| 16
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#56FF56" | [[File:Bag Kebia Berry Sprite.png|link=Kebia Berry]]
| 12
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 16
| style="background:#70FF70" | 8
| 16
| 16
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#56FF56" | [[File:Bag Tanga Berry Sprite.png|link=Tanga Berry]]
| 12
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 16
| 16
| style="background:#70FF70" | 8
| 16
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#56FF56" | [[File:Bag Babiri Berry Sprite.png|link=Babiri Berry]]
| 12
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 16
| 16
| 16
| style="background:#70FF70" | 8
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#56FF56" | [[File:Bag Salac Berry Sprite.png|link=Salac Berry]]
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#56FF56" | 12
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#56FF56" | [[File:Bag Starf Berry Sprite.png|link=Starf Berry]]
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#56FF56" | 12
|-
| colspan="12" style="{{roundybottom|5px}}; background:#999" |
|}{{-}}

Yellow Berry Chart
{| class="roundy" style="text-align:center; font-size:90%; border: 2px solid #111; background:#555; margin-right: 5px; margin-bottom: 5px"
|-
! colspan="2" rowspan="2" |
! colspan="10" style="{{roundytr|5px}} background:#999; font-size:111%" | Second Berry
|- style="background:#FFFF56"
! [[File:Bag Aspear Berry Sprite.png|link=Aspear Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Sitrus Berry Sprite.png|link=Sitrus Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Iapapa Berry Sprite.png|link=Iapapa Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Qualot Berry Sprite.png|link=Qualot Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Grepa Berry Sprite.png|link=Grepa Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Wacan Berry Sprite.png|link=Wacan Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Shuca Berry Sprite.png|link=Shuca Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Charti Berry Sprite.png|link=Charti Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Chilan Berry Sprite.png|link=Chilan Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Kee Berry Sprite.png|link=Kee Berry]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
! rowspan="10" style="background:#999" | F i r s t B e r r y
! style="background:#FFFF56" | [[File:Bag Aspear Berry Sprite.png|link=Aspear Berry]]
| style="background:#FFFFa3" | 4
| 12
| 16
| 16
| 16
| 12
| 12
| 12
| 12
| 16
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FFFF56" | [[File:Bag Sitrus Berry Sprite.png|link=Sitrus Berry]]
| 12
| style="background:#FFFF89" | 8
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 16
| 16
| 16
| 16
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FFFF56" | [[File:Bag Iapapa Berry Sprite.png|link=Iapapa Berry]]
| 16
| 32
| style="background:#FFFF56" | 12
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FFFF56" | [[File:Bag Qualot Berry Sprite.png|link=Qualot Berry]]
| 16
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#FFFF56" | 12
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FFFF56" | [[File:Bag Grepa Berry Sprite.png|link=Grepa Berry]]
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#FFFF56" | 12
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FFFF56" | [[File:Bag Wacan Berry Sprite.png|link=Wacan Berry]]
| 12
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#FFFF89" | 8
| 16
| 16
| 16
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FFFF56" | [[File:Bag Shuca Berry Sprite.png|link=Shuca Berry]]
| 12
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 16
| style="background:#FFFF89" | 8
| 16
| 16
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FFFF56" | [[File:Bag Charti Berry Sprite.png|link=Charti Berry]]
| 12
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 16
| 16
| style="background:#FFFF89" | 8
| 16
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FFFF56" | [[File:Bag Chilan Berry Sprite.png|link=Chilan Berry]]
| 12
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 16
| 16
| 16
| style="background:#FFFF89" | 8
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FFFF56" | [[File:Bag Kee Berry Sprite.png|link=Kee Berry]]
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#FFFF56" | 12
|-
| colspan="12" style="{{roundybottom|5px}}; background:#999" |
|}{{-}}

Blue Berry Chart
{| class="roundy" style="text-align:center; font-size:90%; border: 2px solid #111; background:#555; margin-right: 5px; margin-bottom: 5px"
|-
! colspan="2" rowspan="2" |
! colspan="7" style="{{roundytr|5px}} background:#999; font-size:111%" | Second Berry
|- style="background:#5656ff"
! [[File:Bag Oran Berry Sprite.png|link=Oran Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Kelpsy Berry Sprite.png|link=Kelpsy Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Passho Berry Sprite.png|link=Passho Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Yache Berry Sprite.png|link=Yache Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Coba Berry Sprite.png|link=Coba Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Apicot Berry Sprite.png|link=Apicot Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Maranga Berry Sprite.png|link=Maranga Berry]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
! rowspan="7" style="background:#999" | F i r s t B e r r y
! style="background:#5656ff" | [[File:Bag Oran Berry Sprite.png|link=Oran Berry]]
| style="background:#8989ff" | 4
| 16
| 12
| 12
| 12
| 16
| 16
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#5656ff" | [[File:Bag Kelpsy Berry Sprite.png|link=Kelpsy Berry]]
| 16
| style="background:#5656ff" | 12
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#5656ff" | [[File:Bag Passho Berry Sprite.png|link=Passho Berry]]
| 12
| 32
| style="background:#7070ff" | 8
| 16
| 16
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#5656ff" | [[File:Bag Yache Berry Sprite.png|link=Yache Berry]]
| 12
| 32
| 16
| style="background:#7070ff" | 8
| 16
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#5656ff" | [[File:Bag Coba Berry Sprite.png|link=Coba Berry]]
| 12
| 32
| 16
| 16
| style="background:#7070ff" | 8
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#5656ff" | [[File:Bag Apicot Berry Sprite.png|link=Apicot Berry]]
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#5656ff" | 12
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#5656ff" | [[File:Bag Maranga Berry Sprite.png|link=Maranga Berry]]
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#5656ff" | 12
|-
| colspan="9" style="{{roundybottom|5px}}; background:#999" |
|}{{-}}

:Thank to a collaboration with '''Tiddlywinks''' it has been discovered that berries, no mater the color, can be cataloged into 3 groups based on one single property, the strength of the juice they make when mixed with themselves.

:Group 1 berries will always result in a 4 when mixed with themselves, group 2 berries a 8 and group 3 a 12. No currently known berry will result in a 16 or 32 when mixed with itself. On the charts above, I have marked all berry group indicators by a color, I also believe this helps a person better follow the flow of the chart since plain white can kind of blur into a wall of text.

:Berry groups will also always result in the same berry juice strength when mixed with another (different) berry of the same color in the same group. Group 1 berries will always result in a strength of 8 when mixed with another group 1 berry. They will also result in a 16 or a 12 when mixed with a group 2 or group 3 berry respectively. Group 2 berries will always result in 16 when mixed with another group 2 berry, and a 32 when mixed with any group 3 berry. Whenever 2 group 3 berries are mixed, the result is always 32.

:These two charts can better illustrate the berry groups and their mixing results.

{| class="roundy" style="text-align:center; border: 2px solid #111; background:#555; margin-right: 5px; margin-bottom: 5px" cellpadding="2px"
! colspan=3 style="background:#999; {{roundytop|5px}}" | Berry Groups
|- style="background:#{{steel color}}"
! 1
! 2
! 3
|- style="background:#FF5656"
| [[File:Bag Cheri Berry Sprite.png|link=Cheri Berry]] [[File:Bag Leppa Berry Sprite.png|link=Leppa Berry]]
| [[File:Bag Occa Berry Sprite.png|link=Occa Berry]] [[File:Bag Chople Berry Sprite.png|link=Chople Berry]] [[File:Bag Haban Berry Sprite.png|link=Haban Berry]]
| [[File:Bag Figy Berry Sprite.png|link=Figy Berry]] [[File:Bag Pomeg Berry Sprite.png|link=Pomeg Berry]] [[File:Bag Tamato Berry Sprite.png|link=Tamato Berry]] [[File:Bag Liechi Berry Sprite.png|link=Liechi Berry]] [[File:Bag Lansat Berry Sprite.png|link=Lansat Berry]]
|- style="background:#B154BA"
| [[File:Bag Chesto Berry Sprite.png|link=Chesto Berry]]
| [[File:Bag Payapa Berry Sprite.png|link=Payapa Berry]] [[File:Bag Kasib Berry Sprite.png|link=Kasib Berry]] [[File:Bag Colbur Berry Sprite.png|link=Colbur Berry]]
| [[File:Bag Wiki Berry Sprite.png|link=Wiki Berry]] [[File:Bag Ganlon Berry Sprite.png|link=Ganlon Berry]]
|- style="background:#{{fairy color}}"
| [[File:Bag Pecha Berry Sprite.png|link=Pecha Berry]]
| [[File:Bag Persim Berry Sprite.png|link=Persim Berry]]
| [[File:Bag Mago Berry Sprite.png|link=Mago Berry]] [[File:Bag Petaya Berry Sprite.png|link=Petaya Berry]] [[File:Bag Roseli Berry Sprite.png|link=Roseli Berry]]
|- style="background:#56FF56"
| [[File:Bag Rawst Berry Sprite.png|link=Rawst Berry]]
| [[File:Bag Lum Berry Sprite.png|link=Lum Berry]] [[File:Bag Rindo Berry Sprite.png|link=Rindo Berry]] [[File:Bag Kebia Berry Sprite.png|link=Kebia Berry]] [[File:Bag Tanga Berry Sprite.png|link=Tanga Berry]] [[File:Bag Babiri Berry Sprite.png|link=Babiri Berry]]
| [[File:Bag Aguav Berry Sprite.png|link=Aguav Berry]] [[File:Bag Hondew Berry Sprite.png|link=Hondew Berry]] [[File:Bag Salac Berry Sprite.png|link=Salac Berry]] [[File:Bag Starf Berry Sprite.png|link=Starf Berry]]
|-
| style="background:#FFFF56" | [[File:Bag Aspear Berry Sprite.png|link=Aspear Berry]]
| style="background:#FFFF56" | [[File:Bag Sitrus Berry Sprite.png|link=Sitrus Berry]] [[File:Bag Wacan Berry Sprite.png|link=Wacan Berry]] [[File:Bag Shuca Berry Sprite.png|link=Shuca Berry]] [[File:Bag Charti Berry Sprite.png|link=Charti Berry]] [[File:Bag Chilan Berry Sprite.png|link=Chilan Berry]]
| style="background:#FFFF56" | [[File:Bag Iapapa Berry Sprite.png|link=Iapapa Berry]] [[File:Bag Qualot Berry Sprite.png|link=Qualot Berry]] [[File:Bag Grepa Berry Sprite.png|link=Grepa Berry]] [[File:Bag Kee Berry Sprite.png|link=Kee Berry]]
|- style="background:#5656FF"
| [[File:Bag Oran Berry Sprite.png|link=Oran Berry]]
| [[File:Bag Passho Berry Sprite.png|link=Passho Berry]] [[File:Bag Yache Berry Sprite.png|link=Yache Berry]] [[File:Bag Coba Berry Sprite.png|link=Coba Berry]]
| [[File:Bag Kelpsy Berry Sprite.png|link=Kelpsy Berry]] [[File:Bag Apicot Berry Sprite.png|link=Apicot Berry]] [[File:Bag Maranga Berry Sprite.png|link=Maranga Berry]]
|-
|}{{-}}
{| class="roundy" style="text-align:center; border: 2px solid #111; background:#555; margin-right: 5px; margin-bottom: 5px"
!
! style="background:#{{steel color}}" | Group 1
! style="background:#{{steel color}}" | Group 2
! style="background:#{{steel color}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Group 3
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#{{steel color}}" | Group 1
| {{tt|4|Mixing two of the same berry}}-8 || 16 || 12
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#{{steel color}}" | Group 2
| 16 || {{tt|8|Mixing two of the same berry}}-16 || 32
|-
! style="background:#{{steel color}}; {{roundybl|5px}}" | Group 3
| style="background:#FFF" | 12
| style="background:#FFF" | 32
| style="background:#FFF; {{roundybr|5px}}" | {{tt|12|Mixing two of the same berry}}-32
|}{{-}}

I'm not sure what the best way to relay this message is, but hopefully this can help educate people on how best to get the most out of their berry mixes and better EV train their Pokémon to the specifications of their choice.[[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 21:21, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

:Some of this information seems to be incorrect. Specifically, values received from mixing two different groups of berries. Just now, I attempted to mix two Yellow berries, one Aspear (Group 1) and one Sitrus (Group 2), seeing that mixing a Group 1 and a Group 2 would give better results than mixing a Group 1 and a Group 3. However, I only actually received 12 EVs from the resulting shake, not 16. I then confirmed that those two berries were in the groups they're stated to be in by mixing two of the same, and finally tested mixing a Group 1 and a Group 3, which resulted in 16 EVs. It seems the values for mixing between groups is reversed, which would make more sense anyway.

:Also, your original set of charts seems to agree with my findings, showing an Aspear plus a Sitrus as giving 12, and Group 1 plus Group 3 berries giving 16. It seems something just got lost in the translation to the new charts. [[User:True Hitoare|True Hitoare]] ([[User talk:True Hitoare|talk]]) 06:35, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

==Juice Shoppe split==
I plan to add a big table (or tables, not sure right now) describing exactly what results you get for mixing what Berries to the Juice Shoppe. At that point, it's really better off as its own page. If you'd like an idea, the data may end up something like the chart at the end of [[User talk:Tiddlywinks#Could you spellcheck this Chart please?|this section]], or it may end up more like the first rainbow-colored chart in the middle of that section. (I can appreciate if you might feel like critiquing those charts, but please understand they are works in progress.)

I don't think there's any overriding need for much of the Juice Shoppe section to be on this page. A little summary with a "main" link to the separate page should be just fine. If you want to know about the Juice Shoppe - especially if we're giving all the exact mixing results - then it's really better off as its own page rather than as a section of Lumiose City. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:13, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

:I think given the complexity of mixing berries, a article for the Juice Shoppe would be appropriate.

:I was looking at the Juice Shoppe section, comparing it to the other sections, and it throws off the flow of the page. It has more info in it than two of the other sections combined. It seems so out of place and bulgy compared to the other sections that consist of a simple introductory sentence or paragraph.

:Plus, once we figure out how best to implement some table(s) in order to illustrate the data, it will become even more bulky. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 20:15, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
::Could you develop a page on your userpage so we can have a general idea of how it will look and such before we make a final decision about the split? '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 21:07, 11 April 2014 (UTC)
:::...A general idea? That's easy enough. '''[[User:Tiddlywinks/Juice Shoppe|Here]]'''. Do understand that I deliver what you asked for: the general idea. I don't at the moment have all the information I want for that page (notably, "extremely"/"really" are basically placeholders for hard numbers), and without that, I don't really feel like I can make it "complete", so past a certain point (e.g., color scheme...) I won't even try yet. I am not satisfied with that as an end product, but I also don't like waiting, so I hope you can make a decision off of that "general idea". I'm entirely open to suggestions or comments. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:07, 11 April 2014 (UTC)
::::After discussion with some of the other staff, we'd like to see a more finalized version of the draft you made before we give the final thumbs up for the split. Suggestion wise, I think a picture or two would be beneficial to help make the page "pop" a little more. I like the direction the page is headed in though and hope to follow up on it after it's developed a bit more. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 03:31, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
:::::Another user filled in the data I most needed, so I finally decided to put more work into this. I don't know how you expected me to add any pictures when this whole site is fishing for anything it can use, so instead, I [[User:Tiddlywinks/Juice Shoppe|decided to rework it]] so the information is laid out more evenly.
:::::I've still put off choosing a cohesive color scheme, but except for that (and the missing friendship data for the <Color> Juices), I consider that page complete, so I'd appreciate it if you could say whether (color scheme aside) that'd be worth a thumbs up now.
:::::...Actually, I'm also not sure what categories to give it, so maybe you could suggest (or add) a few? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:58, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
I went ahead and added some info on the berry groups and whatnot to the article's Juice Shoppe section. My worse fear was that it would make that section bulky, and I was right. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 00:39, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

:I agree wholeheartedly about the split. The Juice Shoppe section is too large. [[User:Mr. Guye|Mr. Guye]] ([[User talk:Mr. Guye|talk]]) 17:47, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

==Demographics==
Just wondering, but does anybody know what the population of Lumiose City is, because I noticed a lack of demographics section and a population number in the Kalos Region page. {{unsigned|Zallaraxium}}
:Would the disappearing pedestrians be counted? {{ci|Castelia}} has them too and yet has a stated population of 127. I would think only stationary residents are counted. --[[User:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|The]]Very[[User talk:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|Best]] 04:44, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
::I would think so, I wouldn't really know as I a new here. [[User:Zallaraxium|Zallaraxium]] ([[User talk:Zallaraxium|talk]]) 10:59, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
:::Taxi drivers count too. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 15:16, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
::::It has been added now, 416 people, that easily dwarfs all of the oter large cities [[User:Zallaraxium|Zallaraxium]] ([[User talk:Zallaraxium|talk]]) 20:07, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

==Pearl Strings and Furfrou styling==
So, I'm on a solid 18 days straight with my lovely Furfrou, and I'm not actually given any Pearl Strings by the only Madame in the shop. I must ask, where was this information gained? I believe it may be false. I can't seem to find good proof, but perhaps someone else can test this? [[User:Thieverpedia|Thieverpedia]] ([[User talk:Thieverpedia|talk]]) 23:28, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
:The article states that the Pearl Strings are from a Madame in Café Woof, not Friseur Furfrou (which is next door). Are you sure you're looking in the correct building? —[[User:Minimiscience|Minimiscience]] ([[User talk:Minimiscience|talk]]) 15:37, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
:Ah. That was the problem. I must have missed it when I was reading the small text on my tablet. Thanks for clearing that up! [[User:Thieverpedia|Thieverpedia]] ([[User talk:Thieverpedia|talk]]) 04:51, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

==Stylishness Redirects?==
I realise that there's already a redirect for "style", linking to the 'Style' section of this article, but should there also be redirects for 'Stylish' and 'Stylishness' to make them easier to find? Just an idea. [[User:Ben10do|–Ben10do]] ([[User talk:Ben10do|talk]]) 17:41, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
:Not to mention a table explaining how Style works, which is info we've had since [http://projectpokemon.org/forums/showthread.php?37269-X-Y-Save-File-Research#post181290 February…] --[[User:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|The]]Very[[User talk:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|Best]] 04:44, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

==Stone Emporium's Mega Stone==
I picked Bulbasaur as my Kanto starter and this article makes it seem like I can buy either Charizardite X or Blastoisinite now and the other in the post-game. However, the NPC will only sell me Charizardite X. I'm pretty sure this means that you actually have no choice in the order of Mega Stones, and that the first buyable one is for the starter with the advantage over yours, but I came here first as a formality. {{tt|If|another formality}} I'm right, this distinction needs to be stated in the {{DL|Lumiose City|Stone Emporium}} section. Furthermore, these Mega Stones aren't shown anywhere in the items section, only the ones given by Prof. Sycamore. They [[Lumiose City#Stone Emporium 2|belong here]] in a separate table that explains that they are sold by the elderly man in the Emporium, not the clerk, and with the aforementioned restrictions. --[[User:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|The]]Very[[User talk:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|Best]] 04:44, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
:Actually, I think I chose Squirtle (I already had Fennekin) and I'm being given the Venusaurite first. I think you are correct. Though it would have someone with Charizard chosen first to confirm this since it could also be going in stone order, with the Venusaurite first unless already claimed by choosing Bulbasaur. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 15:21, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

== Style/lottery ==

I just added data for style (thanks in part to info from a link above). I've not proceeded to (or especially near) the post-game as yet, so I couldn't add data for stuff like Sushi High Roller, but there's one really big question that stands out...style increases for the lottery.

When I didn't get any match at the lottery, I got 0 style. When I only matched 1 digit, I got 1 style. ...I don't know about any higher matches right now; while it'd make sense if the style increase equals the size of the match, that's just a guess right now. The big problem here is that it seems lotto numbers don't soft reset easily. So it'd be a big help if anyone who doesn't have max style could try the lotto and see how much style is increased if they get a 2-digit or larger match. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:28, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

== Is there really a Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}40,000? ==

Ok, this has been bugging me for a while now. Can someone verify if there really is a Rare Soda (Not Ultra Rare Soda) that costs {{pokedollar}}40,000 and increases level by 4?

I've run across lots of {{pokedollar}}30,000 Rare Sodas from the man, but I can't recall running into a {{pokedollar}}40,000 Rare Soda, Only Ultra Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}40,000.

It kind of seems pointless to have both a Rare Soda that raises lv by 4, and also have a Ultra Rare Soda that raises lv by 4. Why on green earth would GameFreak program in such a repetitive thing? [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 07:34, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

:Ok, I've soft reset 20 times and have not come across a '''Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}40,000'''. I've come across 6 Ultra Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}50,000, 1 Ultra Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}40,000, 4 Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}30,000 2 Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}20,000 and 3 {{pokedollar}}10,000 but not a single Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}40,000. Does the Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}40,000 show up in a guide, or was it editor generated? [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 22:10, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
::20 times isn't all bad, but you only actually saw 9 Rare Sodas, which makes a big(ger) difference. If you could find at least 30 different Rare Sodas and none are 40000, that'd be fairly weighty.
::...Which isn't to say I think there is a 40000 Rare Soda. Another user [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User:Tiddlywinks/Juice_Shoppe&diff=2104627&oldid=2103370 previously] edited exactly that on my Juice Shoppe page (possibly based on information from a guidebook). I mean, yeah, it doesn't really make sense to have a Rare Soda that adds 4 levels when you've got an Ultra Rare Soda that does that (for the same price). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:24, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
:::Well regardless this needs further Investigating. I am about to do another round of soft resets to see if I find the mystical Rare Soda. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 21:31, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
I unfortunately lost exact count how many times I soft reset, but It was at least 25 (had a note pad open and pressed enter for each soft reset, so the count is 25-27 with 25 defiantly the min) but I saw 3 Ultra Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}40,000, 5 Ultra Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}50,000, 2 Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}20,000 and 2 {{pokedollar}}10,000 7 Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}30,000. Next time I guess I will document each item shown with each soft reset. On a side note, it seems that Colorful Shake {{pokedollar}}5,000 exists, not sure if anything higher exists but that's the highest colorful shake I've ever come across.[[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 21:53, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
Ok, I did 25 soft resets and not once did the Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}40,000 show up.

I compiled the results with a Excel spread sheet that I also used to keep track of resets. In 25 soft resets I saw 8 Blue juices of various values. 8 Colorful Shakes of various values, one of which was '''OVER 9000!!!''' (lol sorry), 8 Green juices of various values. 9 Pink Juices of various values. 5 Purple Juices of various values. 4 Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}10,000, 5 Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}20,000 and 4 Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}30,000. Again, 0 Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}40,000 to be found. There were 7 Red Juices of various values. I saw 2 Ultra Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}40,000 and 3 Ultra Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}50,000. I also saw 12 Yellow juices of various values.

http://dc700.4shared.com/img/3YBoAKi-ce/s7/1467b3ad640/Snapshot_20140608.JPG?

The only significant find in that test was that Colorful Shake can sell as High, maybe higher then {{pokedollar}}10,000 Coincidentally, that was on the 25th soft reset.

Given that in the last week I've soft reset somewhere in the neighborhood of 75 times, I should have statistically came across the Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}40,000 by now. The more I soft reset, the more I am believing the Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}40,000 is a mistaken identity for a Ultra Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}40,000 [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 11:44, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

==PR Video==
I know we don't have much on it right now, but I think "Trainer PR Video" should be an article. We could list all the different effects and makeup stuff. [[User:GreenFlame|GreenFlame]] ([[User talk:GreenFlame|talk]]) 00:19, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
:I entirely agree. That's why I actually started [[Trainer PR Video|such a page]]. What it primarily needs at the moment is coverage of the creation/editing of videos; except for that, it's basically ready for the mainspace. I just haven't had the motivation to make myself sit down and write that up. (It's also missing a couple of the captions in English still and a section for the makeup, but those are pretty easy fixes.)
:I'll see about writing the "Making" section to my satisfaction tomorrow or so, but if I can't make myself do that and if you're willing, I might be willing to let you have at it. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:51, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
::I've got some ideas for an article I guess and I could handle the makeup part, but where do I put them? Also apologies about putting comments in the wrong place, I'm new to this.[[User:GreenFlame|GreenFlame]] ([[User talk:GreenFlame|talk]]) 06:01, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
:::I'll try to do what needs doing myself tomorrow, you don't need to worry about where to put anything (hopefully at all, as far as PR Videos go). I just haven't had any motivation to take even the time it'd require. If I need anything, I'll let you know what's up. =) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 06:29, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

== Style chart ==

[[User:Ocelot King|Ocelot King]] ([[User talk:Ocelot King|talk]]) 02:38, 5 June 2015 (UTC) I went into Café Introversion to get the Hatching Power, and got it. Then I went into The Stone Emporium and the Mega Stone was only discounted to 50,000. I think that the Style benefits chart is wrong.

== add kalos league anime ==

according to the latest pokemon anime episode, the kalos league will be in lumiose city so could someone please add that? [[User:Alondon17|Alondon17]] ([[User talk:Alondon17|talk]]) 11:16, 26 May 2016 (UTC)

== Split ==

This page, like its namesake, is huge and difficult to navigate. Each of the major sections of the page is already divided between the different sections of the city. If the page was split into individual pages for each of the major roads, information on South Boulevard wouldn't need to be separated by information on the rest of the city and could much more easily be managed. This would also allow space for more images to identify locations in the city, easing navigation by users. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 01:51, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

:That seems to be a good idea. But I can't actually do it, for I'm not autoconfirmed yet and thus can't create pages. [[User:AquaMaster777|AquaMaster777]] ([[User talk:AquaMaster777|talk]]) 19:13, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

::I second this proposal as well. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 04:36, 13 October 2018 (UTC)

:::I think we should have an overview article on the whole of the city, then link to the sections in the page. Also make the section articles available by search, of course. [[User:DoubleDeckerDave|DoubleDeckerDave]] ([[User talk:DoubleDeckerDave|talk]]) 14:40, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

::::I created an account purely for the sake of bumping this suggestion. There's a lot of content in Lumiose city, although i'll never get to most of it in-game. Even just walking through that stupid city gives me nausea and headaches, literally and figuratively. [[User:Lusamine is bae|Lusamine is bae]] ([[User talk:Lusamine is bae|talk]]) 01:40, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

== Trainer locations ==

Does anyone even know where all ten Trainers even are? I only know of seven, thanks to [https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/66464a83-76b4-4d9e-841f-c3b033f103b8/d6r3yi4-02fa6935-5cde-408a-82e6-562a83a939a2.jpg/v1/fill/w_1024,h_1221,q_75,strp/lumiose_city_map_by_rain_of_ashes-d6r3yi4.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJpc3MiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwic3ViIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsImF1ZCI6WyJ1cm46c2VydmljZTppbWFnZS5vcGVyYXRpb25zIl0sIm9iaiI6W1t7InBhdGgiOiIvZi82NjQ2NGE4My03NmI0LTRkOWUtODQxZi1jM2IwMzNmMTAzYjgvZDZyM3lpNC0wMmZhNjkzNS01Y2RlLTQwOGEtODJlNi01NjJhODNhOTM5YTIuanBnIiwid2lkdGgiOiI8PTEwMjQiLCJoZWlnaHQiOiI8PTEyMjEifV1dfQ.jivXKYgpKZCmXBQOtCfxR1UjcBe-Dfne6rs8Mg-qoFQ this image], but the other three are still unknown.

Also not sure how to spawn these Trainers, once I've beaten them...

* Garçon Jacopo is in the alleyway past Loto-ID.
* Waitress Paget is near Bleu Plaza, on the way to the Southern Boulevard.
* Owner Toro is also near Bleu Plaza, on the way to Prism Tower - i.e. opposite Paget.
* Chef Kamaboko is past Paget, in a hidden alleyway.
* Preeetty sure Punk Girl Lillian is near Vert Plaza, opposite Cafe Cyclone.
* Punk Guy Faust is in an alleyway north of Rouge Plaza, opposite Sushi High Roller.
* Black Belt Killian is in the alleyway north of Restaurant Le Wow.

No idea where the three Beauties are.

EDIT: Beauty Aimee is near Vert Plaza, outside Cafe Cyclone.--[[User:PokeMaster99999|PokeMaster99999]] ([[User talk:PokeMaster99999|talk]]) 09:17, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

Talk:Lumiose City

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==Name Similarities to Illumise==
Should it be noted that Lumiose City's French name, Illumis; is almost the same as [[Illumise]]? [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 03:40, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

==Pikachu==
Minor speculation but i can't help but notice the pikachu in the picture. Either this is just because it's the franchise mascot or pokemon from gens 1 to 5 will be in Kalos unlike Unova's first two games. --[[User:Bomyne|Bomyne]] ([[User talk:Bomyne|talk]]) 11:43, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
:[[a:File:XY Pokedex.png|We know]] that Zigzagoon (and Linoone) will be in the Kalos Pokédex. However, Pikachu might just make a cameo, like it did in [[Castelia City]] and like Shroomish did in [[Hearthome City]].--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 11:57, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
:: In the announcement trailer back in Jan where Pikachu is on the tower, they mention that favorite old Pokémon would make an appearance, and they showed an encounter with a wild Pikachu.
:: Also, while this part is speculation on my own behalf; with the emphasis on light for this city, the tower's tip might light up. It is also likely, if it does light up, it does so possibly with the aid of a (Electric-Type) Pokémon much in the same way that the lighthouse in Olivine City (did I get the right city, been a long time since I played G&S.) Plus Pikachu was shown using its electricity on top of the tower in the announcement trailer. I wouldn't be surprise if a whole slew of Electric-Type Pokémon could be found in and near Lumiose City. But, we'll have to wait and see. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 21:18, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
:::Well it would go with the name (Luminose=Light=Electricity=Electric Pokemon). And yes Yamitora the city you are thinking of is Olivine City. [[User:Nuckles123|Nuckles123]] ([[User talk:Nuckles123|talk]]) 21:33, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

==Tourism==
Why does this page sound like it has been taken from a travel book all of a sudden? Doesn't sound professional. [[User:Nuckles123|Nuckles123]] ([[User talk:Nuckles123|talk]]) 00:20, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
: I shortened and dulled it down. I don't see how it was Touristy. Also thanks ‎ArcToraphim for the fix. I keep forgetting to do that when linking Pokémon names to their articles. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 01:40, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
:: It sounded touristy to me because of the mention to shopping and fine dining but it reads more professional now. Also, for creating Pokemon templates, do {{p|Name of Pokemon} } <--(but without this extra space). [[User:Nuckles123|Nuckles123]] ([[User talk:Nuckles123|talk]]) 02:21, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

==Lumiose City Gym==
In the 3rd Pokémon X and Y trailer, at 0:34, there is an image of the tower in the centre of the city. At the entrance of the tower is the same symbol that is in front of the Santalune City Gym, in the 2nd trailer, at 0:42. This symbol is the Gym symbol from Unova, so it is safe to assume that Lumiose City also has a Gym. From Kalos' map, Lumiose City is the 3rd Location to visit, after Vaniville and Santalune, so it could be the 2nd Gym, although it could act like Petalburg or Viridian and have the Gym challenged later on. Since Lumiose City is based on Paris, the City of Lights, then the Gym type could be Electric or Fairy (there probably will be some sort of Fairy Gym/Elite Four Member somewhere in Kalos), but this is very speculative. [[User:Xolotl|Xolotl]] ([[User talk:Xolotl|talk]]) 10:21, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
:I too, noticed this in the trailer. The gym logo is also visible in a screenshot for Pokémon X and Y (I think there is a YouTube video pointing this out.), so I would think that it is fair to say that it is not just an animé variation. There have however been gyms in the animé that have not appeared in games such as those of the [[Orange Archipelago]], and unofficial gyms, including a fake gym set up by [[Team Rocket]], but I would think it unusual to have an unofficial gym ''in-game''. Of course the ''typing'' of the gym is completely speculative, however, I think that the fact that there ''is'' a Lumiose Gym is pretty conclusive.--[[User:ShinyPatch|ShinyPatch]] ([[User talk:ShinyPatch|talk]]) 18:19, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
::The odds are pretty high that it has an actual Gym, but I have to point out that it's not unprecedented to have an unofficial Gym in-game — see the [[Fighting Dojo]] in Saffron City. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 18:26, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

== Korean name for Lumiose City ==

Its Korean name is 미스시티 ''Miseu {{tt|Siti|City}}''.
* I suspect it's based on the English word "myth", although that would be transliterated as 미쓰. Alternatively, 미스 could be "Miss" (whether "female tiitle" or "opposite of hit"), but I have my doubts. I'll have to get back to this. -- [[User:Nick15|Nick15]] ([[User talk:Nick15|talk]]) 23:01, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

== Plants and Lights? ==

How come all of the other cities and towns in Kalos so far are named after plants, yet Lumiose city is named after Paris' nickname 'the city of lights'? Shouldn't it be added to the trivia that Lumiose city is the only one not named after a plant? [[User:Ziggyangelo88|Ziggyangelo88]] ([[User talk:Ziggyangelo88|talk]]) 07:47, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
:We don't know all the cities, so we don't know yet whether another will be not named after a plant. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 07:48, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

==Prism Tower==
It should be worth noted that the Eiffel-Tower like thing is called Prism Tower. [[User:Dinodestroyer|Dinodestroyer]] ([[User talk:Dinodestroyer|talk]]) 11:07, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

==The second story of one of the north buildings==
I went there and something... odd happened. Im not even sure what it was. A very strange NPC is all i can say without spoiling. You'd know it if you saw it. well whatever it was, its clearly worth mentioning. If anyone has a clue what this thing was or what it meant, that should probably be included in the article somewhere. I think it was the building with the Dojo/Dance school on top, with the 2nd floor totally empty. I can't be sure because it only happened the one time and there are no signs left behind.

So yeah. That. Anyone know what that was and can put it on the page? [[User:PowerPlantRaichu|PowerPlantRaichu]] ([[User talk:PowerPlantRaichu|talk]]) 03:07, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
:No. You aren't the one. Yes, the dojo was on top. Given the servers and computers in the room, I surmise that it could be Game Freak, but the NPC makes me think event possibly. [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] ([[User talk:TruePikachu|talk]]) 09:52, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

==Looker Bureau==
Can somebody put something explaining this? I would, but I do not have the time. It is after you go to Anistar City and receive the Mega Ring upgrade. I would appreciate it, and I will help where I can.--[[User:Darkmaster|Darkmaster]] ([[User talk:Darkmaster|talk]]) 03:40, 26 October 2013 (UTC) As I said, I would do it all, but I have neither the time or the experience to do it. {{unsigned|Darkmaster}}

== On the glitches thing shall we put about this ghost girl? ==

Apparently there's this ghost girl thing which people are talking about. Is this a glitch if so put it on the glitches. I'm not sure if it's a reference to Unova about that girl in the Strange House or just a glitch. If anyone does know can someone either add it in the glitches or make note of it in the trivia section?--[[User:Hydreigonfan1|Hydreigonfan1]] ([[User talk:Hydreigonfan1|talk]]) 18:27, 27 October 2013 (UTC)
:It's pretty clear to me that it's not a glitch. It's just supposed to be a creepy thing they put into the game. --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 18:29, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

:: they put a ghost (or a few) in each game, so far i can remember DPP's house where u can find rotom, there's 2 ghosts there, also the girl in the bridge and in the abandoned house in BWB2B2 --[[User:Cabasho|Cabasho]] 10:06 11 November 2013 (-5 GMT)

== Sushi High Roller requirements ==

Can anyone help verify the requirements to get into Sushi High Roller? I know the only requirement isn't being the Champion, but I know it is one since the NPC that lets you in mentions it. I know there is something else since after becoming Champion, I did a bunch of style stuff and the Looker side quests and got access after that. Someone updated it to say the Looker sidequests are the other prereq, but that seems weird to me. Don't those also increase your style by completing them? Unfortunately, I don't know for a fact if completing that was what gave me access or not. [[User:Linkmastr001|Linkmastr001]] ([[User talk:Linkmastr001|talk]]) 21:39, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

Actually, I had a thought. One thing I did before doing this restaurant was participate in each of the other restaurants, perhaps that is the other requirement? [[User:Linkmastr001|Linkmastr001]] ([[User talk:Linkmastr001|talk]]) 01:48, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

I did that and beat the Elite Four, anyone else had that experience? -[[User:IVsaur|EVsandIVsaurs]] 01:56, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
:"The player needs to have become the Champion, completed the side quest, and have gotten his or her style up in the city."
:So is this meant to refer to the Looker sidequests? Because "the side quest" is completely unclear and I have no idea what I'm supposed to do. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 17:13, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

==Stone Emporium==
Does anyone know whether or not this shop gets more than just Leaf, Fire and Water Stones post game?--[[User:Ditto51|Tom]] ([[User_Talk:Ditto51|My Talk Page]]) 10:16, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
:Doesn't seem to do so. I think that's it unless you get more for becoming a full celebrity in Lumiose. I'm getting close to that stage (Venusarite is only 70,000, once it gets to 10,000 I will know). ☆[[User:Solar Dragon|The]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|Solar]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|Dragon]]☆ 10:23, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

==Sushi High Roller prize==
Has anyone completed a course? If so, what did you get? Apparently it's Big Nuggets, but the quantities are still undetermined on Bulbapedia. -- [[User:Pringles|Pringles]] 01:06, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

havent done it myself but the it says it is imposible to turn out profit from this restaurant... if the info presented here is correct, then its true, but the loss can be lowered to 191760 if using a double money item during the battles (such as an amulet coin). -- [[User:Cabasho|Cabasho]] 10:03 11 November 2013 (-5 GMT)
:Wait... 30k * 25 = 750k; 750k->500k... so what. [[User:Uploader|Uploader]] ([[User talk:Uploader|talk]]) 17:55, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
::Just checked on this, 30,000 for each Big Nugget and a perfect is 25 of them. You make profit since you get over $500,000 when selling... Not sure how you would be ''losing'' profit here. Anyone mind fixing up that trivia error? ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 04:11, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Wrong. In X/Y, you can sell the Big Nuggets for only 10,000 (not 30,000 like in Gen V). Therefore, you do NOT make profit in Sushi High Roller. Here's my result, using Amulet Coin + Prize Money Power lv 2, Triple Battle course.

'''1,454,404''' (my amount of money prior to selecting a course)
-450,000 (entrance cost)

1,004,404 (my amount of money prior to battling)
+18,720
+18,720
+18,720
+18,720
+41,600
+250,000 (10,000 x 25)

I ends up with '''1,370,884''' which means '''a loss'''.
So yeah, '''no''' profit, at least with PMP lv 2. I haven't try PMP lv 3. But if even with Amulet Coin and PMP lv 2 I still get a loss, that clearly means without Amulet Coin and PMP, the loss will be even greater....and even if using PMP lv 3 lets us receive some profit, it's still bad, as you must use the strongest boost just to receive a small amount of profit. Sushi High Roller? More like Sushi High ''Troll''er.[[User:Magnezone|Magnezone]] ([[User talk:Magnezone|talk]]) 01:09, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

:Then let me make a suggestion as to determine this, use Prize Money Power Level 3 + Luck Incense/Amulet Coin(Doesn't seem to stack) + {{m|Happy Hour}}. If that doesn't work, then we will need to say that the only way to make a profit is to use Pay Day to be able to make a profit. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 01:37, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
:: Extrapolating the results from your data.

-450,000 (entrance cost)
+ 56,160 (9,360 is assumed to be the amount with the Amulet Coin, *3 with PMP 3, *2 with Happy Hour)
+ 56,160
+ 56,160
+ 56,160
+ 124,800 (20,800 is assumed to be the amount with the Amulet Coin, *3 with PMP 3, *2 with Happy Hour)
+ 250,000 (250,000 is the normal sell value of 25 Big Nuggets.)
That means the balance should become a net gain of 149,440. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 18:44, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

==Splitting up the article==
Given the current size of the article, and that it's still marked "incomplete," it would probably be a good idea to start giving certain sections their own articles. {{redlink|Hotel Richissime}} should probably be first, as it's currently the most well-developed section. I'm also planning, when I get the time, to transcribe all of the Lumiose Museum audio guides and use them in making a page for that building as well. Any objections or suggestions for further splitting? —[[User:Minimiscience|Minimiscience]] ([[User talk:Minimiscience|talk]]) 00:36, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
:The restaurants use a fair amount of templates, which makes them a pretty good candidate to split off if we're trying to do it for size purposes. I agree that Hotel Richissime can be split off; the Lumiose Museum stuff sounds like it'd be more quote-heavy than content-heavy, so it might be suited more as a subpage of this article than its own article, though that's probably something for a staff member to decide. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 00:41, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
::Lumiose Museum would have a lot of quotes, though (there are 20-30 paintings in it), and some of the paintings appear to be art from previous games that's already on the Archives, so I'd imagine we'd want to include those in the Museum's section/article, making it longer and more article-worthy. —[[User:Minimiscience|Minimiscience]] ([[User talk:Minimiscience|talk]]) 00:51, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
:::Yeah, I'd say this article could certainly use splitting up. The Hotel Richissime and Lumiose Museum getting their own pages would work. Restaurants maybe. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 03:31, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

[[Hotel Richissime]] is now a separate article. —[[User:Minimiscience|Minimiscience]] ([[User talk:Minimiscience|talk]]) 04:19, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

[[Lumiose Museum]] is now an article. The formatting could probably use some work. —[[User:Minimiscience|Minimiscience]] ([[User talk:Minimiscience|talk]]) 09:31, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

==Pokemon Centers==
Should it be noted that Lumiose City is the first and only city in the entire Pokemon World to have more than one Pokemon Center within the city? I'm a bit surprised nobody has brought this up. {{unsigned|Noah★|17:38, 27 December 2013 (UTC)}}
:That's because it's not. [[Ever Grande City]] was the first. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 17:43, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

== Rare Soda and Ultra Rare Soda Evoltuion ==

Ok, so I bought an Ultra Rare Soda (50,000 pokedollars), gave it to my lv 34 Servine which increased its level to lv 39, and she did not evolve. Is this possibly only Ultra Rare Soda, or does also raise level but does not invoke evolution?[[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 06:50, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

== Restaurants ==

Has anyone really figured out how the restaurants are scored aside from number of turns and Pokémon fainted? For some reason, I actually got 24 Balm Mushrooms in Le Wow when I completed the entire Double Battle course in 10 turns and no faints, but actually got a ''smaller'' reward (around 19-21) when I completed the entire thing in one turn per battle. From what I've seen, at least, you seem to get a better reward for getting closer to the designated turn count over taken the least possible amount of turns. This really doesn't seem right and I'm starting to think that there is more to the scoring. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy (瀬藤健二)]] ([[User talk:Schiffy|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|Contribs]]) 22:01,1/13/2014 (UTC)
:I don't see what you're having an issue with... You're not supposed to go for the least possible amount of turns, since the point is to hit the target number of turns ''exactly''. Going over ''or'' under will detract from the reward, and I think the article's pretty clear about that. Unless I've misunderstood your question? [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 03:52, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
::"For each faint or turn difference, the player will receive one less of the reward item." - Ignore me, I'm stupid and I can't read. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy (瀬藤健二)]] ([[User talk:Schiffy|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|Contribs]]) 05:16,1/14/2014 (UTC)

==Discount Coupon==
So, from what I gathered from the PGL and my game, the Discount Coupon seems to have the following properties:
:#They cost zero Poké Miles
:#They can be used one time at {{tt|''any'' Boutique|it's mentioned on this page already, hence why I'm using this talk page}} (seemingly on one item, but that also might be one full transaction); and give you 50% off
:#They can be sold to a Poké Mart for {{PD}}10
:#They can only be obtained once
:#They go in the main Items slot
:#They have the following description: "This special coupon allows you to buy items at a discount when you are shopping at a boutique."
I can't seem to find a page of (non key) items introduced in Gen VI if there is one, so I'm leaving the information here in hopes of finding said page. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy (瀬藤健二)]] ([[User talk:Schiffy|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|Contribs]]) 19:52,1/15/2014 (UTC)
:Wouldn't it fit best in [[exchangeable item]]s? It's only function is to be exchanged after all. And I recall the Bulbanews article saying you could buy multiple items. [[User:Glik|Glik]] ([[User talk:Glik|talk]]) 21:10, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
::Well, to start off, I set it up [[Bulbapedia:Sandbox#Discount Coupon|here]], since there's still a few things missing, for sure. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy (瀬藤健二)]] ([[User talk:Schiffy|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|Contribs]]) 23:01,1/15/2014 (UTC)

== Soft Resetting Changes the Menu in the Juice Shoppe ==

So, I discovered soft resetting changes the Juice Shoppe Menu to some degree under certain circumstances.

I was leveling up two 5IV Charmander (one Impish, one Careful) to see which had the best Attack of the two (Only HP, Def, Sp.Atk, Sp. Def and Speed are 31IV)

Well I used rare candies while in Kiloude City to get them the first one (Impish) to level 21, then I flew to Lumiose City to see if the Juice Shoppe was selling Rare or Ultra Rare Soda. I know its a gamble, but it paid of, they were selling Rare Soda for 20k. So that got it to level 23.

I soft reset, repeated the rare candies and then flew from Kiloude to Lumiose and when I got to the Juice Shoppe, the Rare Soda was now 50k Ultra Rare Soda, which was surprising. So I was able to get the Careful Charmander to level 26 instead of lv 23 like I had the Impish one.

I have saved and then soft reset before inside the shoppe and the menu stayed the same. This time however I had saved in Kiloude and flew back to the Juice Shoppe. If I were to guess, I would assume that the menu changes based on similar math that a roaming Pokémon's route changes. This needs further investigation, but if proven to some degree, would soft resetting to change the menu be worth noting in the article/Juice Shoppe section? [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 15:57, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
:Well, I screwed up in my attempt to investigate this further, but it wasn't a total lost.

:So after I soft reset and flew back to the Juice Shoppe, the menu changed again, this time to the 20k rare soda and a 40k Ultra rare soda and a pink 2100 juice. I saved after seeing these items, now the menu is stuck as that..so it seems as long as you save before you find out the menu, it is not locked in and can be changed with further soft resets. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 16:04, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

==Restaurant Stars==
It mentions in the article that if you complete the selected option for battling (Double, Triple, Rotation, ect) and get a perfect score, then a star appears next to that option. However do these stars actually do anything? Like if I completed all of them perfectly, would I get a discount or something important like that? [[User:Darkcloud1111|'''''Darkcloud1111''''']][[User talk:Darkcloud1111|'''~Fastest Hero Alive''']] 20:44, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
:I think its mostly a Aesthetic badge of honor showing that you've achieved the goal for that battle option. I've noticed no change outside of that in terms of price or prize money.[[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 21:43, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
::I have just got perfect scores/stars in every battle type in all 4 restaurants and it doesn't seem to do anything other that allow you to tip that restaurant $10,000 and have the person that serves you at the counter have different dialog (treating you like a regular customer). I though it might add a star/change the color of my Trainer Card, but I guess not! --[[User:Evacino|'''evacino''']][[User talk:Evacino|''' (talk)''']] 15:49, 17 February 2014 (GMT)

==Do Cookies Go With Milk?==
I've been buying Lumiose Galettes for a LONG time, and I've never received a Moomoo Milk. [[User:NerfPlayeR135|NerfPlayeR135]] ([[User talk:NerfPlayeR135|talk]]) 00:25, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
:I think you only get the Moomoo Milk if you buy a Galette within an hour of a sale starting (i.e., from 3 to 4 or from 9 to 10), and even then I think you only get one per day. —[[User:Minimiscience|Minimiscience]] ([[User talk:Minimiscience|talk]]) 16:08, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

== Help Needed Roseli Berry used in Ultra Rare Soda it seems, whats the other berry? ==

So, I saw a image of a snapshot taken of the Roseli berry's official guide entry, and it states the berry newcomer is one of the ingredients needed to make Ultra Rare Soda.

It took me a 1 hour and 10 minutes but I tested each combination of Roseli berry with the berries I have, and none worked.

The only berries I have yet to test are...
Starf Berry (which is needed to make normal Rare Soda)
Enigma Berry
Micle Berry
Custap Berry
Jaboca Berry
Rowap Berry

Those six berries I do not possess, so testing them on my side is impossible. so could someone test the other berries if possible? [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 06:21, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
:I'm sure we spoke about this in the forums today, but I forgot to mention that I am willing to try to get my hands on a Starf so I can test it out (unless if someone else has tested it). We'd have to wait on the other 5 Berries you listed since they aren't available in X and Y yet. [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 01:45, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
::yes we did, hopefully we can test this soon. As for the other 5, I was wondering about how we even know if those are in the game or not. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 02:06, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
:::Good news: I got my hands on a Starf, and I have plenty of Roseli, so I can test. However, the combination gives a Mixed Shake. Once the other 5 are made available, we can test those. [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 02:45, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
Ok thank you, that sure helps. Well lets hope the other berries are released soon. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 05:12, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

==Restaurant Template==
Should we switch the current trainer template in those restaurants to the template which features Pokémon moves? (I don't know what's that called)
It is better to know their moves, so we could somehow prepare in advance to earn the stars. --[[User:Yukyankee|Yukyankee]] ([[User talk:Yukyankee|talk]]) 16:03, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

==Style & Tiers==
SciresM went and figured out how style works, and at what Style decreases Mega Stone prices. If you want a table of it for here, read more at ProjectPokemon [http://projectpokemon.org/forums/showthread.php?37269-X-Y-Save-File-Research#post181290]. [[User:Kaphotics|Kaphotics]] ([[User talk:Kaphotics|talk]]) 01:15, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

==Pokemon Center Poke Miles shop, Heart Scale?==
I just moved a shop listing for items exchangeable for Poke Miles to this page. In the process, I deleted an entry for Heart Scales that was [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pok%C3%A9_Mile&oldid=2084166 previously] included in the shop. I doubt this is true (in [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dm4g370aCrw a YouTube video] of someone who's beaten the Elite Four, it doesn't appear on their list of items; I can't readily imagine any circumstance that might add Heart Scales to that shop, then), but I just wanted to leave this note so maybe other people could check it on their games. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:28, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
::No HeartScale from the guy's menu, only acquirable thru the global link shop [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 05:40, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

== Juice Shoppe Berry Mixing Research ==

Ok, so right now I am researching and collecting data on mixing red berries together to see how strong the juice they make is.

Results so far

{| class="roundy" style="border: 2px solid #111111; background:#555555; margin-right: 5px; margin-bottom: 5px"
|-
! colspan="2" rowspan="2" |
! colspan="10" style="{{roundytr|5px}} background:#999999" | Second Berry
|-
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Cheri Berry Sprite.png]]
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Leppa Berry Sprite.png]]
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Figy Berry Sprite.png]]
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Pomeg Berry Sprite.png]]
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Tamato Berry Sprite.png]]
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Occa Berry Sprite.png]]
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Chople Berry Sprite.png]]
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Haban Berry Sprite.png]]
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Liechi Berry Sprite.png]]
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Lansat Berry Sprite.png]]
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! rowspan="10" style="background:#999999" | F i r s t B e r r y
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Cheri Berry Sprite.png]]
| 4
| 8
| 16
| 16
| 16
| N/A
| 12
| 12
| 16
| 16
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Leppa Berry Sprite.png]]
| 8
| 4
| 16
| 16
| 16
| N/A
| 12
| 12
| 16
| 16
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Figy Berry Sprite.png]]
| 16
| 16
| 12
| 32
| 32
| N/A
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Pomeg Berry Sprite.png]]
| 16
| 16
| 32
| 12
| 32
| N/A
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Tamato Berry Sprite.png]]
| 16
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 12
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Occa Berry Sprite.png]]
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Chople Berry Sprite.png]]
| 12
| 12
| 32
| 32
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Haban Berry Sprite.png]]
| 12
| 12
| 32
| 32
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Liechi Berry Sprite.png]]
| 16
| 16
| 32
| 32
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFFFFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Lansat Berry Sprite.png]]
| 16
| 16
| 32
| 32
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
| N/A
|-
| colspan="12" style="{{roundybottom|5px}}; background:#999999" |
|}{{-}}

Since making a chart with all 50+ available in-game berries would be too hard (I tried, I wanted to go on a murderous rampage using a kantana followed by Hari kari) this seems to be the best way to show the effects of mixing each berries, at least within the same color group. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 08:49, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

:Ok, here is a updated red berry chart and the charts for the other berries. The colored numbers will be explained later down...

Red Berry Chart
{| class="roundy" style="text-align:center; font-size:90%; border: 2px solid #111; background:#555; margin-right: 5px; margin-bottom: 5px"
|-
! colspan="2" rowspan="2" |
! colspan="10" style="{{roundytr|5px}} background:#999; font-size:111%" | Second Berry
|- style="background:#FF5656"
! [[File:Bag Cheri Berry Sprite.png|link=Cheri Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Leppa Berry Sprite.png|link=Leppa Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Figy Berry Sprite.png|link=Figy Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Pomeg Berry Sprite.png|link=Pomeg Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Tamato Berry Sprite.png|link=Tamato Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Occa Berry Sprite.png|link=Occa Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Chople Berry Sprite.png|link=Chople Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Haban Berry Sprite.png|link=Haban Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Liechi Berry Sprite.png|link=Liechi Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Lansat Berry Sprite.png|link=Lansat Berry]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
! rowspan="10" style="background:#999" | F i r s t B e r r y
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Cheri Berry Sprite.png|link=Cheri Berry]]
| style="background:#FF8989" | 4
| 8
| 16
| 16
| 16
| 12
| 12
| 12
| 16
| 16
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Leppa Berry Sprite.png|link=Leppa Berry]]
| 8
| style="background:#FF8989" | 4
| 16
| 16
| 16
| 12
| 12
| 12
| 16
| 16
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Figy Berry Sprite.png|link=Figy Berry]]
| 16
| 16
| style="background:#FF5656" | 12
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Pomeg Berry Sprite.png|link=Pomeg Berry]]
| 16
| 16
| 32
| style="background:#FF5656" | 12
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Tamato Berry Sprite.png|link=Tamato Berry]]
| 16
| 16
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#FF5656" | 12
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Occa Berry Sprite.png|link=Occa Berry]]
| 12
| 12
| 32
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#FF7070" | 8
| 16
| 16
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Chople Berry Sprite.png|link=Chople Berry]]
| 12
| 12
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 16
| style="background:#FF7070" | 8
| 16
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Haban Berry Sprite.png|link=Haban Berry]]
| 12
| 12
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 16
| 16
| style="background:#FF7070" | 8
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Liechi Berry Sprite.png|link=Liechi Berry]]
| 16
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#FF5656" | 12
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FF5656" | [[File:Bag Lansat Berry Sprite.png|link=Lansat Berry]]
| 16
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#FF5656" | 12
|-
| colspan="12" style="{{roundybottom|5px}}; background:#999" |
|}{{-}}

Purple Berry Chart
{| class="roundy" style="text-align:center; font-size:90%; border: 2px solid #111; background:#555; margin-right: 5px; margin-bottom: 5px"
|-
! colspan="2" rowspan="2" |
! colspan="6" style="{{roundytr|5px}} background:#999; font-size:111%" | Second Berry
|- style="background:#b154ba"
! [[File:Bag Chesto Berry Sprite.png|link=Chesto Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Wiki Berry Sprite.png|link=Wiki Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Payapa Berry Sprite.png|link=Payapa Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Kasib Berry Sprite.png|link=Kasib Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Colbur Berry Sprite.png|link=Colbur Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Ganlon Berry Sprite.png|link=Ganlon Berry]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
! rowspan="6" style="background:#999" | F i r s t B e r r y
! style="background:#b154ba" | [[File:Bag Chesto Berry Sprite.png|link=Chesto Berry]]
| style="background:#c278c9" | 4
| 16
| 12
| 12
| 12
| 16
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#b154ba" | [[File:Bag Wiki Berry Sprite.png|link=Wiki Berry]]
| 16
| style="background:#b154ba" | 12
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#b154ba" | [[File:Bag Payapa Berry Sprite.png|link=Payapa Berry]]
| 12
| 32
| style="background:#b966c1" | 8
| 16
| 16
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#b154ba" | [[File:Bag Kasib Berry Sprite.png|link=Kasib Berry]]
| 12
| 32
| 16
| style="background:#b966c1" | 8
| 16
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#b154ba" | [[File:Bag Colbur Berry Sprite.png|link=Colbur Berry]]
| 12
| 32
| 16
| 16
| style="background:#b966c1" | 8
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#b154ba" | [[File:Bag Ganlon Berry Sprite.png|link=Ganlon Berry]]
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#b154ba" | 12
|-
| colspan="8" style="{{roundybottom|5px}}; background:#999" |
|}{{-}}

Pink Berry Chart
{| class="roundy" style="text-align:center; font-size:90%; border: 2px solid #111; background:#555; margin-right: 5px; margin-bottom: 5px"
|-
! colspan="2" rowspan="2" |
! colspan="5" style="{{roundytr|5px}} background:#999; font-size:111%" | Second Berry
|- style="background:#{{fairy color}}"
! [[File:Bag Pecha Berry Sprite.png|link=Pecha Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Persim Berry Sprite.png|link=Persim Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Mago Berry Sprite.png|link=Mago Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Petaya Berry Sprite.png|link=Petaya Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Roseli Berry Sprite.png|link=Roseli Berry]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
! rowspan="5" style="background:#999" | F i r s t B e r r y
! style="background:#{{fairy color}}" | [[File:Bag Pecha Berry Sprite.png|link=Pecha Berry]]
| style="background:#f8d3db" | 4
| 12
| 16
| 16
| 16
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#{{fairy color}}" | [[File:Bag Persim Berry Sprite.png|link=Persim Berry]]
| 12
| style="background:#{{fairy color light}}" | 8
| 32
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#{{fairy color}}" | [[File:Bag Mago Berry Sprite.png|link=Mago Berry]]
| 16
| 32
| style="background:#{{fairy color}}" | 12
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#{{fairy color}}" | [[File:Bag Petaya Berry Sprite.png|link=Petaya Berry]]
| 16
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#{{fairy color}}" | 12
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#{{fairy color}}" | [[File:Bag Roseli Berry Sprite.png|link=Roseli Berry]]
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#{{fairy color}}" | 12
|-
| colspan="9" style="{{roundybottom|5px}}; background:#999" |
|}{{-}}

Green Berry Chart
{| class="roundy" style="text-align:center; font-size:90%; border: 2px solid #111; background:#555; margin-right: 5px; margin-bottom: 5px"
|-
! colspan="2" rowspan="2" |
! colspan="10" style="{{roundytr|5px}} background:#999; font-size:111%" | Second Berry
|- style="background:#56FF56"
! [[File:Bag Rawst Berry Sprite.png|link=Rawst Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Lum Berry Sprite.png|link=Lum Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Aguav Berry Sprite.png|link=Aguav Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Hondew Berry Sprite.png|link=Hondew Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Rindo Berry Sprite.png|link=Rindo Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Kebia Berry Sprite.png|link=Kebia Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Tanga Berry Sprite.png|link=Tanga Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Babiri Berry Sprite.png|link=Babiri Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Salac Berry Sprite.png|link=Salac Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Starf Berry Sprite.png|link=Starf Berry]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
! rowspan="10" style="background:#999" | F i r s t B e r r y
! style="background:#56FF56" | [[File:Bag Rawst Berry Sprite.png|link=Rawst Berry]]
| style="background:#89FF98" | 4
| 12
| 16
| 16
| 12
| 12
| 12
| 12
| 16
| 16
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#56FF56" | [[File:Bag Lum Berry Sprite.png|link=Lum Berry]]
| 12
| style="background:#70FF70" | 8
| 32
| 32
| 16
| 16
| 16
| 16
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#56FF56" | [[File:Bag Aguav Berry Sprite.png|link=Aguav Berry]]
| 16
| 32
| style="background:#56FF56" | 12
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#56FF56" | [[File:Bag Hondew Berry Sprite.png|link=Hondew Berry]]
| 16
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#56FF56" | 12
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#56FF56" | [[File:Bag Rindo Berry Sprite.png|link=Rindo Berry]]
| 12
| 16
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#70FF70" | 8
| 16
| 16
| 16
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#56FF56" | [[File:Bag Kebia Berry Sprite.png|link=Kebia Berry]]
| 12
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 16
| style="background:#70FF70" | 8
| 16
| 16
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#56FF56" | [[File:Bag Tanga Berry Sprite.png|link=Tanga Berry]]
| 12
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 16
| 16
| style="background:#70FF70" | 8
| 16
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#56FF56" | [[File:Bag Babiri Berry Sprite.png|link=Babiri Berry]]
| 12
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 16
| 16
| 16
| style="background:#70FF70" | 8
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#56FF56" | [[File:Bag Salac Berry Sprite.png|link=Salac Berry]]
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#56FF56" | 12
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#56FF56" | [[File:Bag Starf Berry Sprite.png|link=Starf Berry]]
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#56FF56" | 12
|-
| colspan="12" style="{{roundybottom|5px}}; background:#999" |
|}{{-}}

Yellow Berry Chart
{| class="roundy" style="text-align:center; font-size:90%; border: 2px solid #111; background:#555; margin-right: 5px; margin-bottom: 5px"
|-
! colspan="2" rowspan="2" |
! colspan="10" style="{{roundytr|5px}} background:#999; font-size:111%" | Second Berry
|- style="background:#FFFF56"
! [[File:Bag Aspear Berry Sprite.png|link=Aspear Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Sitrus Berry Sprite.png|link=Sitrus Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Iapapa Berry Sprite.png|link=Iapapa Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Qualot Berry Sprite.png|link=Qualot Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Grepa Berry Sprite.png|link=Grepa Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Wacan Berry Sprite.png|link=Wacan Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Shuca Berry Sprite.png|link=Shuca Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Charti Berry Sprite.png|link=Charti Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Chilan Berry Sprite.png|link=Chilan Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Kee Berry Sprite.png|link=Kee Berry]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
! rowspan="10" style="background:#999" | F i r s t B e r r y
! style="background:#FFFF56" | [[File:Bag Aspear Berry Sprite.png|link=Aspear Berry]]
| style="background:#FFFFa3" | 4
| 12
| 16
| 16
| 16
| 12
| 12
| 12
| 12
| 16
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FFFF56" | [[File:Bag Sitrus Berry Sprite.png|link=Sitrus Berry]]
| 12
| style="background:#FFFF89" | 8
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 16
| 16
| 16
| 16
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FFFF56" | [[File:Bag Iapapa Berry Sprite.png|link=Iapapa Berry]]
| 16
| 32
| style="background:#FFFF56" | 12
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FFFF56" | [[File:Bag Qualot Berry Sprite.png|link=Qualot Berry]]
| 16
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#FFFF56" | 12
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FFFF56" | [[File:Bag Grepa Berry Sprite.png|link=Grepa Berry]]
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#FFFF56" | 12
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FFFF56" | [[File:Bag Wacan Berry Sprite.png|link=Wacan Berry]]
| 12
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#FFFF89" | 8
| 16
| 16
| 16
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FFFF56" | [[File:Bag Shuca Berry Sprite.png|link=Shuca Berry]]
| 12
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 16
| style="background:#FFFF89" | 8
| 16
| 16
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FFFF56" | [[File:Bag Charti Berry Sprite.png|link=Charti Berry]]
| 12
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 16
| 16
| style="background:#FFFF89" | 8
| 16
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FFFF56" | [[File:Bag Chilan Berry Sprite.png|link=Chilan Berry]]
| 12
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 16
| 16
| 16
| style="background:#FFFF89" | 8
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#FFFF56" | [[File:Bag Kee Berry Sprite.png|link=Kee Berry]]
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#FFFF56" | 12
|-
| colspan="12" style="{{roundybottom|5px}}; background:#999" |
|}{{-}}

Blue Berry Chart
{| class="roundy" style="text-align:center; font-size:90%; border: 2px solid #111; background:#555; margin-right: 5px; margin-bottom: 5px"
|-
! colspan="2" rowspan="2" |
! colspan="7" style="{{roundytr|5px}} background:#999; font-size:111%" | Second Berry
|- style="background:#5656ff"
! [[File:Bag Oran Berry Sprite.png|link=Oran Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Kelpsy Berry Sprite.png|link=Kelpsy Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Passho Berry Sprite.png|link=Passho Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Yache Berry Sprite.png|link=Yache Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Coba Berry Sprite.png|link=Coba Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Apicot Berry Sprite.png|link=Apicot Berry]]
! [[File:Bag Maranga Berry Sprite.png|link=Maranga Berry]]
|- style="background:#FFF"
! rowspan="7" style="background:#999" | F i r s t B e r r y
! style="background:#5656ff" | [[File:Bag Oran Berry Sprite.png|link=Oran Berry]]
| style="background:#8989ff" | 4
| 16
| 12
| 12
| 12
| 16
| 16
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#5656ff" | [[File:Bag Kelpsy Berry Sprite.png|link=Kelpsy Berry]]
| 16
| style="background:#5656ff" | 12
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#5656ff" | [[File:Bag Passho Berry Sprite.png|link=Passho Berry]]
| 12
| 32
| style="background:#7070ff" | 8
| 16
| 16
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#5656ff" | [[File:Bag Yache Berry Sprite.png|link=Yache Berry]]
| 12
| 32
| 16
| style="background:#7070ff" | 8
| 16
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#5656ff" | [[File:Bag Coba Berry Sprite.png|link=Coba Berry]]
| 12
| 32
| 16
| 16
| style="background:#7070ff" | 8
| 32
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#5656ff" | [[File:Bag Apicot Berry Sprite.png|link=Apicot Berry]]
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#5656ff" | 12
| 32
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#5656ff" | [[File:Bag Maranga Berry Sprite.png|link=Maranga Berry]]
| 16
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| 32
| style="background:#5656ff" | 12
|-
| colspan="9" style="{{roundybottom|5px}}; background:#999" |
|}{{-}}

:Thank to a collaboration with '''Tiddlywinks''' it has been discovered that berries, no mater the color, can be cataloged into 3 groups based on one single property, the strength of the juice they make when mixed with themselves.

:Group 1 berries will always result in a 4 when mixed with themselves, group 2 berries a 8 and group 3 a 12. No currently known berry will result in a 16 or 32 when mixed with itself. On the charts above, I have marked all berry group indicators by a color, I also believe this helps a person better follow the flow of the chart since plain white can kind of blur into a wall of text.

:Berry groups will also always result in the same berry juice strength when mixed with another (different) berry of the same color in the same group. Group 1 berries will always result in a strength of 8 when mixed with another group 1 berry. They will also result in a 16 or a 12 when mixed with a group 2 or group 3 berry respectively. Group 2 berries will always result in 16 when mixed with another group 2 berry, and a 32 when mixed with any group 3 berry. Whenever 2 group 3 berries are mixed, the result is always 32.

:These two charts can better illustrate the berry groups and their mixing results.

{| class="roundy" style="text-align:center; border: 2px solid #111; background:#555; margin-right: 5px; margin-bottom: 5px" cellpadding="2px"
! colspan=3 style="background:#999; {{roundytop|5px}}" | Berry Groups
|- style="background:#{{steel color}}"
! 1
! 2
! 3
|- style="background:#FF5656"
| [[File:Bag Cheri Berry Sprite.png|link=Cheri Berry]] [[File:Bag Leppa Berry Sprite.png|link=Leppa Berry]]
| [[File:Bag Occa Berry Sprite.png|link=Occa Berry]] [[File:Bag Chople Berry Sprite.png|link=Chople Berry]] [[File:Bag Haban Berry Sprite.png|link=Haban Berry]]
| [[File:Bag Figy Berry Sprite.png|link=Figy Berry]] [[File:Bag Pomeg Berry Sprite.png|link=Pomeg Berry]] [[File:Bag Tamato Berry Sprite.png|link=Tamato Berry]] [[File:Bag Liechi Berry Sprite.png|link=Liechi Berry]] [[File:Bag Lansat Berry Sprite.png|link=Lansat Berry]]
|- style="background:#B154BA"
| [[File:Bag Chesto Berry Sprite.png|link=Chesto Berry]]
| [[File:Bag Payapa Berry Sprite.png|link=Payapa Berry]] [[File:Bag Kasib Berry Sprite.png|link=Kasib Berry]] [[File:Bag Colbur Berry Sprite.png|link=Colbur Berry]]
| [[File:Bag Wiki Berry Sprite.png|link=Wiki Berry]] [[File:Bag Ganlon Berry Sprite.png|link=Ganlon Berry]]
|- style="background:#{{fairy color}}"
| [[File:Bag Pecha Berry Sprite.png|link=Pecha Berry]]
| [[File:Bag Persim Berry Sprite.png|link=Persim Berry]]
| [[File:Bag Mago Berry Sprite.png|link=Mago Berry]] [[File:Bag Petaya Berry Sprite.png|link=Petaya Berry]] [[File:Bag Roseli Berry Sprite.png|link=Roseli Berry]]
|- style="background:#56FF56"
| [[File:Bag Rawst Berry Sprite.png|link=Rawst Berry]]
| [[File:Bag Lum Berry Sprite.png|link=Lum Berry]] [[File:Bag Rindo Berry Sprite.png|link=Rindo Berry]] [[File:Bag Kebia Berry Sprite.png|link=Kebia Berry]] [[File:Bag Tanga Berry Sprite.png|link=Tanga Berry]] [[File:Bag Babiri Berry Sprite.png|link=Babiri Berry]]
| [[File:Bag Aguav Berry Sprite.png|link=Aguav Berry]] [[File:Bag Hondew Berry Sprite.png|link=Hondew Berry]] [[File:Bag Salac Berry Sprite.png|link=Salac Berry]] [[File:Bag Starf Berry Sprite.png|link=Starf Berry]]
|-
| style="background:#FFFF56" | [[File:Bag Aspear Berry Sprite.png|link=Aspear Berry]]
| style="background:#FFFF56" | [[File:Bag Sitrus Berry Sprite.png|link=Sitrus Berry]] [[File:Bag Wacan Berry Sprite.png|link=Wacan Berry]] [[File:Bag Shuca Berry Sprite.png|link=Shuca Berry]] [[File:Bag Charti Berry Sprite.png|link=Charti Berry]] [[File:Bag Chilan Berry Sprite.png|link=Chilan Berry]]
| style="background:#FFFF56" | [[File:Bag Iapapa Berry Sprite.png|link=Iapapa Berry]] [[File:Bag Qualot Berry Sprite.png|link=Qualot Berry]] [[File:Bag Grepa Berry Sprite.png|link=Grepa Berry]] [[File:Bag Kee Berry Sprite.png|link=Kee Berry]]
|- style="background:#5656FF"
| [[File:Bag Oran Berry Sprite.png|link=Oran Berry]]
| [[File:Bag Passho Berry Sprite.png|link=Passho Berry]] [[File:Bag Yache Berry Sprite.png|link=Yache Berry]] [[File:Bag Coba Berry Sprite.png|link=Coba Berry]]
| [[File:Bag Kelpsy Berry Sprite.png|link=Kelpsy Berry]] [[File:Bag Apicot Berry Sprite.png|link=Apicot Berry]] [[File:Bag Maranga Berry Sprite.png|link=Maranga Berry]]
|-
|}{{-}}
{| class="roundy" style="text-align:center; border: 2px solid #111; background:#555; margin-right: 5px; margin-bottom: 5px"
!
! style="background:#{{steel color}}" | Group 1
! style="background:#{{steel color}}" | Group 2
! style="background:#{{steel color}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Group 3
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#{{steel color}}" | Group 1
| {{tt|4|Mixing two of the same berry}}-8 || 16 || 12
|- style="background:#FFF"
! style="background:#{{steel color}}" | Group 2
| 16 || {{tt|8|Mixing two of the same berry}}-16 || 32
|-
! style="background:#{{steel color}}; {{roundybl|5px}}" | Group 3
| style="background:#FFF" | 12
| style="background:#FFF" | 32
| style="background:#FFF; {{roundybr|5px}}" | {{tt|12|Mixing two of the same berry}}-32
|}{{-}}

I'm not sure what the best way to relay this message is, but hopefully this can help educate people on how best to get the most out of their berry mixes and better EV train their Pokémon to the specifications of their choice.[[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 21:21, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

:Some of this information seems to be incorrect. Specifically, values received from mixing two different groups of berries. Just now, I attempted to mix two Yellow berries, one Aspear (Group 1) and one Sitrus (Group 2), seeing that mixing a Group 1 and a Group 2 would give better results than mixing a Group 1 and a Group 3. However, I only actually received 12 EVs from the resulting shake, not 16. I then confirmed that those two berries were in the groups they're stated to be in by mixing two of the same, and finally tested mixing a Group 1 and a Group 3, which resulted in 16 EVs. It seems the values for mixing between groups is reversed, which would make more sense anyway.

:Also, your original set of charts seems to agree with my findings, showing an Aspear plus a Sitrus as giving 12, and Group 1 plus Group 3 berries giving 16. It seems something just got lost in the translation to the new charts. [[User:True Hitoare|True Hitoare]] ([[User talk:True Hitoare|talk]]) 06:35, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

==Juice Shoppe split==
I plan to add a big table (or tables, not sure right now) describing exactly what results you get for mixing what Berries to the Juice Shoppe. At that point, it's really better off as its own page. If you'd like an idea, the data may end up something like the chart at the end of [[User talk:Tiddlywinks#Could you spellcheck this Chart please?|this section]], or it may end up more like the first rainbow-colored chart in the middle of that section. (I can appreciate if you might feel like critiquing those charts, but please understand they are works in progress.)

I don't think there's any overriding need for much of the Juice Shoppe section to be on this page. A little summary with a "main" link to the separate page should be just fine. If you want to know about the Juice Shoppe - especially if we're giving all the exact mixing results - then it's really better off as its own page rather than as a section of Lumiose City. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:13, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

:I think given the complexity of mixing berries, a article for the Juice Shoppe would be appropriate.

:I was looking at the Juice Shoppe section, comparing it to the other sections, and it throws off the flow of the page. It has more info in it than two of the other sections combined. It seems so out of place and bulgy compared to the other sections that consist of a simple introductory sentence or paragraph.

:Plus, once we figure out how best to implement some table(s) in order to illustrate the data, it will become even more bulky. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 20:15, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
::Could you develop a page on your userpage so we can have a general idea of how it will look and such before we make a final decision about the split? '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 21:07, 11 April 2014 (UTC)
:::...A general idea? That's easy enough. '''[[User:Tiddlywinks/Juice Shoppe|Here]]'''. Do understand that I deliver what you asked for: the general idea. I don't at the moment have all the information I want for that page (notably, "extremely"/"really" are basically placeholders for hard numbers), and without that, I don't really feel like I can make it "complete", so past a certain point (e.g., color scheme...) I won't even try yet. I am not satisfied with that as an end product, but I also don't like waiting, so I hope you can make a decision off of that "general idea". I'm entirely open to suggestions or comments. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:07, 11 April 2014 (UTC)
::::After discussion with some of the other staff, we'd like to see a more finalized version of the draft you made before we give the final thumbs up for the split. Suggestion wise, I think a picture or two would be beneficial to help make the page "pop" a little more. I like the direction the page is headed in though and hope to follow up on it after it's developed a bit more. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 03:31, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
:::::Another user filled in the data I most needed, so I finally decided to put more work into this. I don't know how you expected me to add any pictures when this whole site is fishing for anything it can use, so instead, I [[User:Tiddlywinks/Juice Shoppe|decided to rework it]] so the information is laid out more evenly.
:::::I've still put off choosing a cohesive color scheme, but except for that (and the missing friendship data for the <Color> Juices), I consider that page complete, so I'd appreciate it if you could say whether (color scheme aside) that'd be worth a thumbs up now.
:::::...Actually, I'm also not sure what categories to give it, so maybe you could suggest (or add) a few? [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:58, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
I went ahead and added some info on the berry groups and whatnot to the article's Juice Shoppe section. My worse fear was that it would make that section bulky, and I was right. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 00:39, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

:I agree wholeheartedly about the split. The Juice Shoppe section is too large. [[User:Mr. Guye|Mr. Guye]] ([[User talk:Mr. Guye|talk]]) 17:47, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

==Demographics==
Just wondering, but does anybody know what the population of Lumiose City is, because I noticed a lack of demographics section and a population number in the Kalos Region page. {{unsigned|Zallaraxium}}
:Would the disappearing pedestrians be counted? {{ci|Castelia}} has them too and yet has a stated population of 127. I would think only stationary residents are counted. --[[User:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|The]]Very[[User talk:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|Best]] 04:44, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
::I would think so, I wouldn't really know as I a new here. [[User:Zallaraxium|Zallaraxium]] ([[User talk:Zallaraxium|talk]]) 10:59, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
:::Taxi drivers count too. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 15:16, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
::::It has been added now, 416 people, that easily dwarfs all of the oter large cities [[User:Zallaraxium|Zallaraxium]] ([[User talk:Zallaraxium|talk]]) 20:07, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

==Pearl Strings and Furfrou styling==
So, I'm on a solid 18 days straight with my lovely Furfrou, and I'm not actually given any Pearl Strings by the only Madame in the shop. I must ask, where was this information gained? I believe it may be false. I can't seem to find good proof, but perhaps someone else can test this? [[User:Thieverpedia|Thieverpedia]] ([[User talk:Thieverpedia|talk]]) 23:28, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
:The article states that the Pearl Strings are from a Madame in Café Woof, not Friseur Furfrou (which is next door). Are you sure you're looking in the correct building? —[[User:Minimiscience|Minimiscience]] ([[User talk:Minimiscience|talk]]) 15:37, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
:Ah. That was the problem. I must have missed it when I was reading the small text on my tablet. Thanks for clearing that up! [[User:Thieverpedia|Thieverpedia]] ([[User talk:Thieverpedia|talk]]) 04:51, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

==Stylishness Redirects?==
I realise that there's already a redirect for "style", linking to the 'Style' section of this article, but should there also be redirects for 'Stylish' and 'Stylishness' to make them easier to find? Just an idea. [[User:Ben10do|–Ben10do]] ([[User talk:Ben10do|talk]]) 17:41, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
:Not to mention a table explaining how Style works, which is info we've had since [http://projectpokemon.org/forums/showthread.php?37269-X-Y-Save-File-Research#post181290 February…] --[[User:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|The]]Very[[User talk:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|Best]] 04:44, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

==Stone Emporium's Mega Stone==
I picked Bulbasaur as my Kanto starter and this article makes it seem like I can buy either Charizardite X or Blastoisinite now and the other in the post-game. However, the NPC will only sell me Charizardite X. I'm pretty sure this means that you actually have no choice in the order of Mega Stones, and that the first buyable one is for the starter with the advantage over yours, but I came here first as a formality. {{tt|If|another formality}} I'm right, this distinction needs to be stated in the {{DL|Lumiose City|Stone Emporium}} section. Furthermore, these Mega Stones aren't shown anywhere in the items section, only the ones given by Prof. Sycamore. They [[Lumiose City#Stone Emporium 2|belong here]] in a separate table that explains that they are sold by the elderly man in the Emporium, not the clerk, and with the aforementioned restrictions. --[[User:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|The]]Very[[User talk:IWannaBeTheVeryBest|Best]] 04:44, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
:Actually, I think I chose Squirtle (I already had Fennekin) and I'm being given the Venusaurite first. I think you are correct. Though it would have someone with Charizard chosen first to confirm this since it could also be going in stone order, with the Venusaurite first unless already claimed by choosing Bulbasaur. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 15:21, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

== Style/lottery ==

I just added data for style (thanks in part to info from a link above). I've not proceeded to (or especially near) the post-game as yet, so I couldn't add data for stuff like Sushi High Roller, but there's one really big question that stands out...style increases for the lottery.

When I didn't get any match at the lottery, I got 0 style. When I only matched 1 digit, I got 1 style. ...I don't know about any higher matches right now; while it'd make sense if the style increase equals the size of the match, that's just a guess right now. The big problem here is that it seems lotto numbers don't soft reset easily. So it'd be a big help if anyone who doesn't have max style could try the lotto and see how much style is increased if they get a 2-digit or larger match. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 23:28, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

== Is there really a Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}40,000? ==

Ok, this has been bugging me for a while now. Can someone verify if there really is a Rare Soda (Not Ultra Rare Soda) that costs {{pokedollar}}40,000 and increases level by 4?

I've run across lots of {{pokedollar}}30,000 Rare Sodas from the man, but I can't recall running into a {{pokedollar}}40,000 Rare Soda, Only Ultra Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}40,000.

It kind of seems pointless to have both a Rare Soda that raises lv by 4, and also have a Ultra Rare Soda that raises lv by 4. Why on green earth would GameFreak program in such a repetitive thing? [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 07:34, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

:Ok, I've soft reset 20 times and have not come across a '''Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}40,000'''. I've come across 6 Ultra Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}50,000, 1 Ultra Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}40,000, 4 Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}30,000 2 Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}20,000 and 3 {{pokedollar}}10,000 but not a single Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}40,000. Does the Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}40,000 show up in a guide, or was it editor generated? [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 22:10, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
::20 times isn't all bad, but you only actually saw 9 Rare Sodas, which makes a big(ger) difference. If you could find at least 30 different Rare Sodas and none are 40000, that'd be fairly weighty.
::...Which isn't to say I think there is a 40000 Rare Soda. Another user [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User:Tiddlywinks/Juice_Shoppe&diff=2104627&oldid=2103370 previously] edited exactly that on my Juice Shoppe page (possibly based on information from a guidebook). I mean, yeah, it doesn't really make sense to have a Rare Soda that adds 4 levels when you've got an Ultra Rare Soda that does that (for the same price). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:24, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
:::Well regardless this needs further Investigating. I am about to do another round of soft resets to see if I find the mystical Rare Soda. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 21:31, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
I unfortunately lost exact count how many times I soft reset, but It was at least 25 (had a note pad open and pressed enter for each soft reset, so the count is 25-27 with 25 defiantly the min) but I saw 3 Ultra Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}40,000, 5 Ultra Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}50,000, 2 Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}20,000 and 2 {{pokedollar}}10,000 7 Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}30,000. Next time I guess I will document each item shown with each soft reset. On a side note, it seems that Colorful Shake {{pokedollar}}5,000 exists, not sure if anything higher exists but that's the highest colorful shake I've ever come across.[[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 21:53, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
Ok, I did 25 soft resets and not once did the Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}40,000 show up.

I compiled the results with a Excel spread sheet that I also used to keep track of resets. In 25 soft resets I saw 8 Blue juices of various values. 8 Colorful Shakes of various values, one of which was '''OVER 9000!!!''' (lol sorry), 8 Green juices of various values. 9 Pink Juices of various values. 5 Purple Juices of various values. 4 Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}10,000, 5 Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}20,000 and 4 Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}30,000. Again, 0 Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}40,000 to be found. There were 7 Red Juices of various values. I saw 2 Ultra Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}40,000 and 3 Ultra Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}50,000. I also saw 12 Yellow juices of various values.

http://dc700.4shared.com/img/3YBoAKi-ce/s7/1467b3ad640/Snapshot_20140608.JPG?

The only significant find in that test was that Colorful Shake can sell as High, maybe higher then {{pokedollar}}10,000 Coincidentally, that was on the 25th soft reset.

Given that in the last week I've soft reset somewhere in the neighborhood of 75 times, I should have statistically came across the Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}40,000 by now. The more I soft reset, the more I am believing the Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}40,000 is a mistaken identity for a Ultra Rare Soda {{pokedollar}}40,000 [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 11:44, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

==PR Video==
I know we don't have much on it right now, but I think "Trainer PR Video" should be an article. We could list all the different effects and makeup stuff. [[User:GreenFlame|GreenFlame]] ([[User talk:GreenFlame|talk]]) 00:19, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
:I entirely agree. That's why I actually started [[Trainer PR Video|such a page]]. What it primarily needs at the moment is coverage of the creation/editing of videos; except for that, it's basically ready for the mainspace. I just haven't had the motivation to make myself sit down and write that up. (It's also missing a couple of the captions in English still and a section for the makeup, but those are pretty easy fixes.)
:I'll see about writing the "Making" section to my satisfaction tomorrow or so, but if I can't make myself do that and if you're willing, I might be willing to let you have at it. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:51, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
::I've got some ideas for an article I guess and I could handle the makeup part, but where do I put them? Also apologies about putting comments in the wrong place, I'm new to this.[[User:GreenFlame|GreenFlame]] ([[User talk:GreenFlame|talk]]) 06:01, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
:::I'll try to do what needs doing myself tomorrow, you don't need to worry about where to put anything (hopefully at all, as far as PR Videos go). I just haven't had any motivation to take even the time it'd require. If I need anything, I'll let you know what's up. =) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 06:29, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

== Style chart ==

[[User:Ocelot King|Ocelot King]] ([[User talk:Ocelot King|talk]]) 02:38, 5 June 2015 (UTC) I went into Café Introversion to get the Hatching Power, and got it. Then I went into The Stone Emporium and the Mega Stone was only discounted to 50,000. I think that the Style benefits chart is wrong.

== add kalos league anime ==

according to the latest pokemon anime episode, the kalos league will be in lumiose city so could someone please add that? [[User:Alondon17|Alondon17]] ([[User talk:Alondon17|talk]]) 11:16, 26 May 2016 (UTC)

== Split ==

This page, like its namesake, is huge and difficult to navigate. Each of the major sections of the page is already divided between the different sections of the city. If the page was split into individual pages for each of the major roads, information on South Boulevard wouldn't need to be separated by information on the rest of the city and could much more easily be managed. This would also allow space for more images to identify locations in the city, easing navigation by users. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 01:51, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

:That seems to be a good idea. But I can't actually do it, for I'm not autoconfirmed yet and thus can't create pages. [[User:AquaMaster777|AquaMaster777]] ([[User talk:AquaMaster777|talk]]) 19:13, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

::I second this proposal as well. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 04:36, 13 October 2018 (UTC)

:::I think we should have an overview article on the whole of the city, then link to the sections in the page. Also make the section articles available by search, of course. [[User:DoubleDeckerDave|DoubleDeckerDave]] ([[User talk:DoubleDeckerDave|talk]]) 14:40, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

::::I created an account purely for the sake of bumping this suggestion. There's a lot of content in Lumiose city, although i'll never get to most of it in-game. Even just walking through that stupid city gives me nausea and headaches, literally and figuratively. [[User:Lusamine is bae|Lusamine is bae]] ([[User talk:Lusamine is bae|talk]]) 01:40, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

== Trainer locations ==

Does anyone even know where all ten Trainers even are? I only know of seven, thanks to [https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/66464a83-76b4-4d9e-841f-c3b033f103b8/d6r3yi4-02fa6935-5cde-408a-82e6-562a83a939a2.jpg/v1/fill/w_1024,h_1221,q_75,strp/lumiose_city_map_by_rain_of_ashes-d6r3yi4.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJpc3MiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwic3ViIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsImF1ZCI6WyJ1cm46c2VydmljZTppbWFnZS5vcGVyYXRpb25zIl0sIm9iaiI6W1t7InBhdGgiOiIvZi82NjQ2NGE4My03NmI0LTRkOWUtODQxZi1jM2IwMzNmMTAzYjgvZDZyM3lpNC0wMmZhNjkzNS01Y2RlLTQwOGEtODJlNi01NjJhODNhOTM5YTIuanBnIiwid2lkdGgiOiI8PTEwMjQiLCJoZWlnaHQiOiI8PTEyMjEifV1dfQ.jivXKYgpKZCmXBQOtCfxR1UjcBe-Dfne6rs8Mg-qoFQ this image], but the other three are still unknown.

Also not sure how to spawn these Trainers, once I've beaten them...

* Garçon Jacopo is in the alleyway past Loto-ID.
* Waitress Paget is near Bleu Plaza, on the way to the Southern Boulevard.
* Owner Toro is also near Bleu Plaza, on the way to Prism Tower - i.e. opposite Paget.
* Chef Kamaboko is past Paget, in a hidden alleyway.
* Preeetty sure Punk Girl Lillian is near Vert Plaza, opposite Cafe Cyclone.
* Punk Guy Faust is in an alleyway north of Rouge Plaza, opposite Sushi High Roller.
* Black Belt Killian is in the alleyway north of Restaurant Le Wow.

No idea where the three Beauties are. --[[User:PokeMaster99999|PokeMaster99999]] ([[User talk:PokeMaster99999|talk]]) 09:17, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

Talk:Stat

2017-10-30T20:25:38Z

PokeMaster99999: /* Platinum Stat Caps */ new section

In the modifiers table, how about items such as Light Ball, Thick Club? [[User:Lahar|Lahar]] 23:16, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Whats the maximum for the stats? [[User:Kpokefan|'''K''']][[User talk:Kpokefan|'''P''']][[User:Kpokefan/Missions|'''F''']] 01:32, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

== Stat modification in battle. ==

okay, this is probably the best place to raise the question.

the stat altering moves change stats in "levels" of up to six. how much does each "level" change the stats by? If this is already listed somewhere, i don't know where to find it.
:As far as I can tell, it works like this<nowiki>:</nowiki> Unmodified, stats are multiplied by 2/2 (with the exception of evasion and accuracy, which use 3/3 instead). Raising a stat by one level adds 1 to the numerator, whereas lowering by one level adds 1 to the denominator. This means that if you use a move like [[Growl]], the opponent's attack stat is multiplied by 2/3. Using it again changes 2/3 to 2/4, a.k.a. 1/2, and if you use it again it goes to 2/5, then 2/6, (or 1/3,) etc. --[[User:Legollama|Legollama]] 02:09, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

: Do negative stat changes in battle stay even after you switch out?[[User:Summerscythe|Summerscythe]] 20:34, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
:: No. Switching out resets all stat alterations, +ve or -ve. - [[User:Solarys|Solarys]] 06:03, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

==Speed question==

If two Pokémon have the same speed stat in battle, what determines which will attack first? [[User:Lucario12|Lucario12]] 16:48, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
:Good question. I'm sure that it will be chosen randomly. [[User:Tesh|'''TESH''']][[User_talk:Tesh|'''IGIGAS''']] 16:54, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

== All Stats Referred to Collectively ==

It's just an idea but I've noticed something. I've had the idea of instead of just reffering to a Pokemon's indivisual Stats; HP, Attack, Defense, Special Atk, Special Def and Speed, one could refer to all values that effect a battle.
Observe;

'''S'''pecial Attack

'''H'''P

'''A'''ttack

'''D'''efense

'''S'''pecial Defense

'''E'''vasiveness

'''A'''ccuracy

'''S'''peed

Reading the first letter of each Stat forms the word "SHADSEAS" (or an alteration on the order). What do you think? Could it be a new lingo? [[User:Bttsstewart|Bttsstewart]] 17:33, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
:Maybe, but the order seems pretty messy to me, as I'm more comfortable with the order HP-Atk-Def-SPAtk-SPDef-Spd. And remember to sign your comments on talk pages with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>), this was already mentioned in your welcome message (I hope you already read it through). '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 17:15, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, signed it now [[User:Bttsstewart|Bttsstewart]] 17:33, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

== Evasion stages/modifiers? ==

What's the maximum % of evasion a PKMN can have? (I.e. 6 uses of Double Team, Bright Powder and Hail/Sandstorm ability bonus.)

Firstly, do the items/abilities stack with each other and stages linearly or diminishingly?

If linearly, it will be 96.67%: 6 stages (9/3 multiplier) = 66.67% evasion + 20% from ability boost + 10% from Bright Powder

If diminishingly with stages only, it's 76.67%: 66.67% + 6.67%{{tt|*|(100-66.67)×0.2)}} from ability boost + 3.33%{{tt|*|(100-66.67)×0.1)}} from Bright Powder

Or if diminishingly with each other AND stages, it's around 75~76%, depending on whether the item or ability is accounted for first.

- [[User:Solarys|Solarys]] 06:01, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

:I've been wondering this same thing, every time one of my Pokémon will get hit by {{m|SmokeScreen|Smokescreen}} or {{m|Sand-Attack}}, they miss more then half the time. But additional uses don't seem to make a huge difference. [[User:Derian|[[Derian]]]] 19:00, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

::They stack diminishingly. So the effects of bright powder/your ability get smaller the more you double team or minimize. However, they remain the same if you sand attack because accuray is a diffrent stat.

-[[User:Kin-Kyukon|Kin-Kyukon]]

== Incorrect formulas ==

Hey, sorry to revert the awesome-looking formula images in the [[Stats#Formula|#Formula]] section to text, but they're incorrect.

Generations {{gen|III}} and {{gen|IV}} have ''Nature ×'' '''at first''', when [[Stats#Nature|#Nature]] says this:

: ''After all other calculations are finished, the stat that the nature enhances will be 110% of what it would be without the nature, and the stat hindered will be 90% of its normal value.''

Generations {{gen|I}} and {{gen|II}} have ''EV / 2048'', when [[Effort values#Generation I]] says the formula is [[File:Statexp.png]].

And since I don't know how to make those awesome-looking formula images or even update them, I'll leave it to the uploader to modify them. The relevant files are StatFormulaHPGenI.png, StatFormulaGenI.png, StatFormulaHPGen3.png and StatFormulaGen3.png. [[User:Looce|Looce]] 17:09, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
:If you can explicitly point out the corrections to be made, I can get on that for you. When I created the images I was going on the information I was provided with. If it is incorrect, I'm happy to provide a fix given that you tell me what to change it to. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:51, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
:: To the current revision of [[Stats#Formula|#Formula]]'s text. Namely,
::* In Gen I and II, both formulas, update EV/2048 to be squareroot(EV + 3) / 4. Even better would be to say STAT EXP in Gen I and II's formulas instead of EV, because that's what they were known as back then.
:::* So, like this, then?
::: [[File:HP_calc.png]]
::: Except that formula is wrong, because it has to be divided by 8, not 4 (the denominator on the bottom is 50, not 100.) My mistake.[[User:Ztobor|Ztobor]] 03:39, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
::* In Gen III and IV, other status formula, move ''Nature ×'' to the end as '''× Nature'''
:: Though it may be that the ''(... + 50 + ...) / 50'' thing for Gen I and II's HP was correct, even if it's in Gen III and IV as ''+ Level + 10'', so you don't really need to update that. Thanks in advance :) [[User:Looce|Looce]] 03:15, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

I disagree with changing the terms to the obsolete ones. It is confusing. I have been having problems with the term “effort points” in the last two generations, which I suspect are being used interchangeably for “effort values”. Note that the terms have been changed, but stick to one or the other from then on. Of course it would have been better to have not changed the terms at all, but what’s done is done. [[User:White Phoenix|White Phoenix]] 11:22, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
:Just a little thing for Looce, um... Nature's first because of the transitive property. Notice the parentheticals? Plus, the correct answer is not gotten... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 10:06, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

In the first paragraph under Effort Values, before the formulas, shouldn’t that be “For every 4 ''effort points'' gained, a level 100 Pokémon will have 1 extra point in its stats”? And where did the 50 and 2048 come from? It isn’t mentioned anywhere on this page or in the Effort Values article. So which formula for determining the stat points is correct? 50+(EV/2048) or squareroot(EV+3)/4? [[User:White Phoenix|White Phoenix]] 13:54, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
:: Whoever wrote the current Gen III-IV "Other Stats" formula left Level out of the calculations. Smogon's formula is Stat = (((2 * BaseStat + IV + (EV / 4)) * Level / 100 + 5) * Nature) [[User:Professor|The Professor]] 15:44, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
::: It's been fixed, BTW. My bad. [[User:Ztobor|Ztobor]] 04:19, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

===Now wait a minute!===
Your stat calcs are wrong! Arceus with a 31 IV and 252 EV in HP will have 444 HP. Your calculation gives it a maximum of 394. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 10:31, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
:Do the math again. It gives exactly 444. --[[User:Miliko|Miliko]] 18:52, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

===Off by one?===
I implemented this formula in Lua: http://pastie.org/7732032

but, sometimes I'm getting results that are one more than the game's result (in Soul Silver). Maybe the rounding is wrong? This happens with neutral natures too (e.g. Hardy), so that shouldn't be it. [[User:HyperHacker|HyperHacker]] ([[User talk:HyperHacker|talk]]) 07:17, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

e.g. Eevee, base special attack is 45, level 18, EV 6, IV 3, the result should be 21, but I get 22.01 (truncated to 22). The other stats are fine. For EVs of 0-2 I get 21 as expected. [[User:HyperHacker|HyperHacker]] ([[User talk:HyperHacker|talk]]) 07:30, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

:Found it: EV / 4 needs to be floor(EV / 4). So the article needs to be corrected; unfortunately I don't know how to go about generating those nice images. [[User:HyperHacker|HyperHacker]] ([[User talk:HyperHacker|talk]]) 08:00, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
::I found this to be also inaccurate to Gens I and II. The game rounds UP, not DOWN. I was making a mockup calculator in MS Excel to know the amount of EVs to give to my Pokémon using Pikasav (for testing reasons) and found out that sometimes the value was off by one, since I was using the ROUNDDOWN function. Using ROUNDDUP actually gave me the exact values the game used. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 22:51, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

==Nature Factor==
After some tests using the formula on Lv5 Pokémon on my Emerald Rom, I think the Nature factor on it is placed on the wrong place. It should not affect the final "5" on it. I specifically tested it on an Adamant Magikarp with perfect Atk IV, the formula gives me a stat of 8, and in the game it is 7 (I tested the IV with the IV Man). And in other Pokémon (Breloom IIRC), I had the same problem. Could someone test it? --[[User:Miliko|Miliko]] 18:52, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
*You need to truncate (drop the decimals) before applying the nature boost. --[[User:Sp unit 262|sp unit 262]] 03:11, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

== What happens with Speed? ==

When two Pokémon's speeds are equal, they attack first with 50% probability each. If the speeds are a bit off, the probability does not jump to 100%. What actually happens? [[User:Ztobor|Ztobor]] 21:24, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

*I noticed this too, especially in the older generations; I think the higher level one with a slightly lower speed may have a chance to go first. I don't remember seeing this happening in the battle tower/frontier, or link battles, though, even when there's a level difference. ~ [[User:Solarys|Solarys]] 12:16, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

:*Btw, you can easily test this on an emulator. Make sure you have a spare slot in your party, and an active Pokémon with non-damaging moves (optional, but preferred). First take note of your active Pokémon's speed, then go fight something with a similar level and base speed. Save a state when you enter the fight, then catch the enemy to see its speed. If it's off from yours by more than, say, 3 points, load your saved state and run; otherwise load your saved state, keep choosing different moves to see whether the faster one always goes first. ~ [[User:Solarys|Solarys]] 12:45, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

::*I can confirm this with a non-emulator device - the slower one can also sometimes go first. But the greater the speed difference, the less likely it happens. [[User:Ztobor|Ztobor]] 04:41, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

== In the anime ==
A while back ago I made an edit about how Speed worked in the anime. Is it possible that we could make a seperate section or page that's about how stats work in the anime, because I can definitely see a bit of a difference. For example, Double Team normally raises evasion but it also seems to raise attack power in the anime because all of the clones can attack. --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 00:04, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
:Well? --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 21:48, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

== Can we please ==

Make a clear definition of stages? I only get the gist of it. --[[User talk:Venomoth|☯ ]][[User:Venomoth|*Ɣℯ№ӎօṫհ*]][[User talk:Venomoth| ☯]] 00:52, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
:Stages are incredibly simple. Let's say my Pokémon has 420 Attack and it gets hit with FeatherDance (which lowers the Attack stat by two stages). The second stage of decrease is 1/2. 420 * .5 = 210, meaning that whenever damage calculations have to take my Attack stat into consideration, it will use 210 instead of 420.{{unsigned|Hexagon Theory }}
::Thanks, I found some extra info on it. —[[User:Venomoth|'''''V'''e№moth'']][[User talk:Venomoth| ♦]] 09:33, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

== Regarding calculation of successful hit in battle ==

"If P is greater than 1, the move will surely hit." But what if P isn't greater than 1? Surely it won't always miss... does anybody know anything about the formula that determines successful move hits? [[User:Hexagon Theory|Hexagon Theory]] 21:27, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
:P is just the probability that the move will hit. Probabilities greater than 1 don't make any sense, so it's explicitly stated that they're the same as 1 (i.e., always hit). Once the probability is calculated, the game (in effect) generates a random number between 0 and 1; if P is greater than or equal to this number, the attack hits. --[[User:Minimiscience|Minimiscience]] 16:10, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
::D'you know for certain that the random number is uniformly distributed?{{unsigned|Hexagon Theory}}
:::Technically, no, I don't know that, though I would expect it to be (or, at least, as close to uniform as pseudo-randomness can get you). --[[User:Minimiscience|Minimiscience]] 19:49, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
:::The games use a single source of randomness, which really is uniformly distributed (or close), but only when taking individual random numbers — it isn't a particularly high quality pseudorandom number generator (even more so for the older generations), meaning that consecutive random numbers do correlate to each other (comes to mind the Gen III PRNG, where each number is a linear function of the previous one modulo 232). [[User:Aaaaaa123456789|Aaaaaa123456789]] ([[User talk:Aaaaaa123456789|talk]]) 08:35, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

== Trading and level up ==

If you have a level 100 Scyther, with a speed of 300, and trade with metal coat, than wouldn't it have a higher speed than a scizor level 100 can have?(its highest according to the sat calculation is 251, and I only used this as an example.) Also, what if you had a level 100 Eevee(with a speed of 229, it's highest possible speed), and for example, you evolve it into a Jolteon, it will still have less than the minimum speed a level 100 Jolteon can have, so how does this work? Do the stats get reset? {{unsigned|Phoenixon}}
:Stats are always recalculated upon evolution. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 22:49, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

== Contrary ==

Why is Contrary listed as an ability that lowers Attack and Defense? That's not what it does... [[User:EnosShayrem|Enos]][[Shaymin (Pokémon)|Shay]][[Kyurem (Pokémon)|rem]][[User_talk:EnosShayrem|Talk]] 04:31, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

== Wrong example ==

For the example showing how to work out a Pokémon's Sp.Att it shows: 
[[Image:StatExampleSpAtkGen4_1.png]]
[[Image:StatExampleSpAtkGen4_2.png]]
 When the game calculates a stat it rounds down '''before''' applying the nature. The example applies the nature first and then rounds down, that Pokémon would actually have a Sp. Att of 135. It's not that important but it should still be fixed. [[User:Pikiwyn|'''Pikiwyn''']] [[User talk:Pikiwyn|<tt>'''''talk'''''</tt>]] 19:34, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

== Garchomp total? ==

The base stat total + the EV total + the IV total of the lv. 78 Garchomp = 1220 but its stat total is 1240.
Can someone explain this? Nickvang 19:13 10 june 2011
* The stat total and the totals you see there are not equal. It takes 4 EV's to raise the stat total by 1, and each base stat raises the total by 2. [[User:Ztobor|Ztobor]] 02:04, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

== Wrong information on the color of the HP bar ==

"If a Pokémon has less than 1/4 of their HP remaining, the color will turn red" http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/8161/immagine1jxc.png 165/4=41.25, so what? It has less than 1/4, and its HP bar isn't red. [[User:Shepeedy|Shepeedy]] 20:10, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
:Perhaps it's 1/5? Try lowering the HP to less than 33. [[User:Ztobor|Ztobor]] 14:13, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
::I'll try the next time I'll be able to. [[User:Shepeedy|Shepeedy]] 20:08, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
::I can confirm 1/5. I don't have any screenshot proof, but I'll run through the numbers. My Vaporeon has 314 HP. 314*1/5=62.8. Lo and behold, at 63 HP the bar is yellow, and at 62 HP the bar is red. 1/5 it is. [[User:Phizzle|Phizzle]] 07:23, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
:::Ok, feel free to edit it. [[User:Shepeedy|Shepeedy]] 08:27, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

== Stuff ==

If Paralyzed Pokémon has -6 in Speed, how much it will be slowed?

Also...

*+1 - <Pokémon>'s <Stat> rose!
*+2 - <Pokémon>'s <Stat> rose sharply!
*+3 - <Pokémon>'s <Stat> rose drastically!
*+6 - While no move (save for {{m|Belly Drum}}) can raise stat so much, the Wonder Launch item says ''immensely''.
*-1 - <Pokémon>'s <Stat> fell!
*-2 - <Pokémon>'s <Stat> harshly fell!
[[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] 13:12, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
:I know I'm responding to an old post but I added the in-game message information because it informs the player how many stages the stats have been changed (sort of.) I'm pretty sure it says "sharply rose" instead of the other way around, and there's "severely fell" for -3. For the record, a paralyzed Pokémon will be slowed by a fourth.HADAA 16:45, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

== Stat colors ==

It should be pointed out somewhere in the article something about the distinctive colors of stat modifiers. You know, the colors that were used in Gen III, but later dropped in Gen IV. The colors in Gen III are:
*Red/Yellow: Attack
*Light/Dark Green: Defense
*Orange/White: Sp.Atk
*Dark Green/White: Sp.Def
*Light Blue: Speed
*Purple: Accuracy
*Teal: Evasion
*Gray: Two or more stats

Whereas in Gen IV the colours are:
*Orange/Yellow: Positive modifier
*Blue: Negative modifier

'''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 01:57, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

== Moxie? ==

I was scanning the items that are supposed to raise stats, and I did not see Moxie under the 'Attack' heading when it should be there.

--[[User:Sovest555|Drakkon]] 15:58, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

== Stat modifiers vs. EVs ==

The section on "Stat modifiers" largely discusses ''in-battle'' stat modifers (i.e. the six stages of increase/decrease for Attack/Defense/Specials/Accuracy/Evasion). Vitamins, wings, and EV berries are ''not'' part of this (they act on EVs directly). Should they be moved to the Effort Values section instead? --''[[User:Stratelier|Stratelier]]'' 18:01, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

== Stats about the stats ==

I think it may be a great idea to include an overall summary of all Pokémon stats in this article, like what already exists on the articles of individual types. An average may be a good feature, as well as upper and lower quartiles. This data could be sampled separately to incorporate all Pokémon in one table and all fully evolved Pokémon in another. I'd be happy to know what you all think. [[User:Superbreeder|Super]][[User talk:Superbreeder|breeder]] 12:38, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

==Health Bar Color==
Recently I was playing HeartGold and noticed that my Girafarig (level 15 and caught in HG, near Lake of Rage) had a max health of 50 with a current amount of 26 but a yellow health bar. Why was this so? [[User:MethodicMockingbird|MethodicMockingbird]] ([[User talk:MethodicMockingbird|talk]]) 22:58, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Why is Contrary only listed as affecting a few stats on this page?--[[User:Chris Broach|Chris Broach]] ([[User talk:Chris Broach|talk]]) 04:47, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

== Should the Generation 5 formula for determining non-HP stats at level 50 be listed here? ==

I wasn't sure whether to add it, so I'll ask it here. Since some may be training their Pokémon for battling on the Battle Subway, Wi-Fi, or situations where a Pokémon's level is rounded down to level 50, should the formula [http://www.smogon.com/bw/articles/bw_ev#level50 listed here] be somehow implemented into the article? Or instead of implementing the formula, should it just be mentioned that the formula for stat calculation is halved when determining stats? [[User:NOBODY|NOBODY]] ([[User talk:NOBODY|talk]]) 03:38, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

== Stat equation layout ==

Is there any particular reason they're laid out as they are? For instance,
[[File:OtherStatCalcGen34.png]]
is equivilant to
[[File:AltGen3PlusStatFormula.png]]
and the latter is MUCH easier to read. --[[User:Keiya|Keiya]] ([[User talk:Keiya|talk]]) 10:17, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
:They are both mathematically correct so it's just a matter of choice. I probably won't fix it because if it ain't broke...
HADAA 16:49, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

Because rounding. Level/100 will round down to 0 (except at level 100 which would be 1) before the multiplier whereas if you divide by 100 after all the multiplications it won't round until after the division (which is the way it works in-game). As an example, the part that is EV/4 is rounded before it is multiplied by level (which is why we want our EVs to be in multiples of 4 otherwise they are wasted.)
[[User:Shivafang|Shivafang]] ([[User talk:Shivafang|talk]]) 22:06, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

== Stat modifiers chart ==

I think the stat modifiers chart needs modifying to decrease clutter. If we can separate them by stat and use {{template|movedesc}} or a table similar to that, I think we can make things easier to sort through. - [[User:Chosen|Chosen]] of [[User talk:Chosen|Mana]] 19:29, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

== Mega Evolutions as Pokémon with the highest stat ==
As of now, the article mentions:
:- Mega Mewtwo X as the Pokémon with the highest Attack stat;
:- Mega Aggron as one of the Pokémon with the highest Defense stat;
:- Mega Mewtwo Y as the Pokémon with the highest Special Attack stat.
I'm wondering, is this an objective evaluation? Mega Evolutions (unlike most other alternate Formes) require an item, they aren't a Pokémon's "natural" stats. If we take items into accounts, then a Choice Banded Deoxys-A has a higher Attack than Mega Mewtwo X (which can't hold a Choice Band since it's already holding another item).
If neither Mewtwo nor Deoxys are allowed to hold items, Deoxys is the one with the highest Attack. If both Mewtwo and Deoxys are allowed to hold a item, it's still Deoxys that has the highest Attack. So what is the criterion that the article is using?
[[User:Loudo|Loudo]] ([[User talk:Loudo|talk]]) 17:33, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
:The stat increases with Choice items doesn't affect the stats on the Pokémon's summary, do they? Mega Evolution stat increases do, suggesting that they're intrinsic to the Pokémon. Also, Giratina's Origin Forme also requires an item in almost every situation, yet it's included. In any case, leaving the Mega Evolutions' stats off the page would only make the page less complete, and less useful as reference. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 23:20, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
::Oops. Forgot which page I was editing the talk page to. Those last two sentences don't really apply for this page. Nonetheless, I do think the base stats of Mega Evolutions are more valid than the item-adjusted stats of other Pokémon. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 23:23, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
:::"Intrinsic to the Pokémon" when a Pokémon cannot attain them without using a specific item in battle sounds like a contradiction to me.
:::Anyway, what I think you're saying is that Mega Evolution affects base stats, while an item like Choice Band only affect the stat itself (however, if that's the point the article is trying to make, it should use a more precise terminology). While that is true, I still have two issues with this statement. First, that is not the Pokémon's natural base stat. That base stat is being boosted. Second, this information, even if it were true, is pretty much irrelevant to the actual game. Mega Mewtwo X's "boosted" base Attack stat doesn't work the same as a natural base Attack stat, since it is incompatible with other items that increase Attack. Saying "Mega Mewtwo X forme currently has the highest Attack stat among all the Pokémon," is misleading, because it gives you the impression that Mega Mewtwo X... really has the highest Attack. Which isn't true, because any Pokémon with an high natural Attack using a different boosting item (ex. Choice Band, Life Orb) is going to do more physical damage than Mega Mewtwo X.
:::It's like the article is giving two different weights to items. Mega Stones are just that: items.[[User:Loudo|Loudo]] ([[User talk:Loudo|talk]]) 15:03, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
::::Mega Stones are items, true, but Mega Pokémon are at least different forms, if not different Pokémon altogether. Mega Pokémon are thus just as valid as Deoxys Attack Forme. Just because a Mega Evolution can't exist without an item being held does not mean that their base stats are less "natural". Mega Mewtwo X REALLY DOES have the highest natural Attack stat, and the fact that you can boost Deoxys' effective Attack with an item is no more relevant than that you can make Shuckle have a higher effective Attack than both of them with Power Trick. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 19:52, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::It is more relevant because the method is exactly the same: you give them an item. In Mewtwo's case it's a Mega Stone, in Deoxys's case a Choice Band. Power Trick would be relevant if we included moves into the discussion, but we don't.
:::::If this were an article about Pokémon in general (i.e. all kinds of games, manga, anime, etc.) than I might agree with you that Mega Evolutions are a special case. But this is not the case, this is an article about the main games and should give the reader useful and not misleading information about the main games. From this point of view, Mega Evolutions are just an effect of items, they're not a Pokémon's "natural" anything. Mega Mewtwo X's Special Attack is not its natural stat, it's a "boosted" stat, so to speak. [[User:Loudo|Loudo]] ([[User talk:Loudo|talk]]) 15:24, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
::::::By Loudo: ''that is not the Pokémon's natural base stat. That base stat is being boosted''. Wrong. You ''cannot'' "boost" base stats. You can only boost the ''invisible'' in-battle value of stats. A Pokemon's ''base'' stats are always reflected in the stats on its stat screen, so as long as those don't change, its base stats (or possibly EVs) haven't changed. And boosts such as Choice Band and Power Trick and Swords Dance never change the numbers on the stat screen. If{{tt|*|note: I don't actually have X/Y}} a Mega Evolution changes what's shown on the stat screen, then the base stats have changed. It may indeed be a temporary change, but it is absolutely unlike Choice Band or anything else.
::::::So really, rather than saying ''Mewtwo in its Mega Mewtwo X forme currently has the highest Attack stat'', the article should say it...''has the highest'' '''''base''''' ''Attack stat''. I don't know why anyone ever wanted to say just "stat" instead of "base stat", really...
::::::Personally, though, I would kind of like to know who has the highest base stat(s) both when you include Mega Evolutions and when you don't. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 15:57, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::::Yes, you can boost base stats. The difference is that a Mega Stone boosts ''base'' stats, while a Choice Band boosts a ''stat.'' But it's a boost in both case, you're just boosting a different value. (Note: I use "boost" loosely. Technically neither the improvements of a Choice Band nor those of a Mega Stone are treated as boosts by moves like Punishment or Tupsy-Turvy. They are boosts in the sense that they improve a Pokémon's natural values.)
:::::::That said, how is the boost provided by a Mega Stone more relevant than the one provided by any other item (like a Choice Band)? It isn't. Base stats are just values that contribute to calculate "stats." Stats are the values the game uses in any other relevant formula. Those are the values that matter.
:::::::On the same note, I would like to point out that these rankings on who has the better stats are not placed in the section about ''base stats.'' They are placed in the section about ''stats.'' Ranking the Pokémon's stats taking into account only some things (Mega Stones) but not others ''of the same kind'' (other items) is not objective. Either we leave out everything and we consider only "naked" Pokémon, or we take into account everything (including all items and abilities like Huge Power). In neither case Mega Mewtwo X comes out as the Pokémon with the highest Attack.[[User:Loudo|Loudo]] ([[User talk:Loudo|talk]]) 21:00, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
::::::::Because you seem to have missed it earlier, let me reiterate AndyPKMN's point that Mega Pokemon have their increased stats visible on the Summary screen, whereas Choice items and other items do not boost the Summary screen stats. Thus, there is a fundamental canonical difference between Mega Evolution base stat increases and held item stat boosts. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 21:13, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::::::The plain fact is, Loudo, what's being ranked is the stats that can appear on a Pokemon's Summary screen. Since Mega Evolutions change those stats, it's entirely "objective" to mention it if they have the highest of a given stat. Perhaps it could be worded more clearly, but it's simply not something you're going to argue completely away. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:38, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
::::::::::Why? Why are we ranking that? It's not even something you can give a name to. We're ranking "what's on the summary screen." What is that? It's not the base stat, because it's not. It's not the stat, because items like Choice Band and abilities like Huge Ability are already active at the start of the battle. It's not enough you give me a criterion, you have to give me a reason why that criterion is used. What useful information does it give to the reader? None, because "what appears on the screen" is not something (s)he can actually put to use in the game. The "screen value" is not something that has any real meaning in the actual game mechanics.
::::::::::May I also remind you that Mega Evolutions ''don't exist outside battles''? That's right, if you check the summary screen outside battle, you see the Pokémon's natural stats, because Mega Evolution is an ingame battle effect. Kinda like Choice Band... [[User:Loudo|Loudo]] ([[User talk:Loudo|talk]]) 23:37, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::::::::"It's not the base stat, because it's not." If you can't give a better reason than that, you've already admitted defeat. It's as close to the base stats as the game will show visibly, and until we can hack into the 3DS and potentially prove otherwise, the only reasonable assumption is that the increases shown in the Summary screen do actually represent base stat changes. In other words, Mega Evolved Pokemon have different base stats from regular Pokemon, whereas giving a Pokemon a Choice item does not alter their base stats. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 23:42, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
::::::::::::That value is not the base stat because it isn't. If you check the summary screen for Mega Mewtwo X you won't see 190 (which is the base stat).
::::::::::::Also, I don't get why you are trying to convince me that the value is close to the base stat. I already said that Mega Stones affect base stats, while a Choice Band affects the stat itself. My point is: ranking Pokémon by "base stat" is not an objective criterion to give the reader a useful non-misleading impression of the Pokémon's actual power level, unless by ranking "base stats" you only rank the Pokémon "natural" base stats. Why that? Because the base stat boosts provided by a Mega Stone is incompatible with other boosts the Pokémon could receive from other items. In other words Deoxys-A's 180 base Attack and Mega Mewtwo X's 190 base Attack are not the same thing. The first is compatible with further boosts, the second is not. In other words, you are comparing two things that are not alike.
::::::::::::In the actual game, many Mega Evolutions are worse than the standard Pokémon because their attacks are weaker than they could be by providing the same Pokémon with a different item. This is why I say that sentences like "This Mega Evolution has the highest stat," are misleading to the reader. [[User:Loudo|Loudo]] ([[User talk:Loudo|talk]]) 23:54, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::::::::::Ah, I see what (I think) your real concern is, and I completely disagree. We are not a strategy guide and avoid dealing with the metagame as much as possible, so separating your categories of "natural" and non-"natural" base stats is introducing a non-canon attempt at metagame analysis to our encyclopedia. Misleading or not, "such-and-such has the highest whatever base stat" is factually accurate, and that is more important than telling people whether a Pokemon is "better" or "worse". [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 00:05, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::::::::::P.S. I also only just noticed what probably caused your confusion. All of the notes in the article's text should (and used to, I think) specify "highest base stat" rather than "highest stat". I've fixed this. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 00:09, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
::::::::::::::I'm relieved by the fact that at least we are on the same page now, even if we disagree. =)
::::::::::::::However, my concern is not "strategic," it's purely technical. I'll try to make myself clear with an example, using the damage calculator:
:::::::::::::::-'''154+ SpA Choice Specs (custom) Psychic vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD (custom): 92-109 (26.97 - 31.96%) -- guaranteed 4HKO''' This is normal Mewtwo's strongest possible Psychic (with no set up).
:::::::::::::::-'''194+ SpA (custom) Psychic vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD (custom): 65-77 (19.06 - 22.58%) -- possible 5HKO''' This is Mega Mewtwo Y's strongest possible Psychic (with no set up).
::::::::::::::This is Mega Mewtwo Y's strongest Psychic (with no set up). As you can see, a normal Mewtwo with the highest possible Special Attack deals more damage with its special attacks than a Mega Mewtwo Y with the highest possible Special Attack. This is what I mean by "stronger/weaker." I don't mean that a Pokémon is better than another from a competitive point of view, I mean it deals more damage using the exact same move.
::::::::::::::Don't you think there is something wrong with the criterion the article is currently using if it ranks Mega Mewtwo Y higher than normal Mewtwo, and yet Mewtwo can deal more special damage using the exact same move? This issue has nothing to do with competitive battling or turning Bulbapedia into a strategy guide. [[User:Loudo|Loudo]] ([[User talk:Loudo|talk]]) 00:26, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::I think if you're going so far as to calculate damage outputs, you've pretty heavily crossed into looking at it "from a competitive point of view". We're just reporting the highest base stat, not "ranking" anything higher than another or claiming that having higher base stats makes a Pokemon "stronger". [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 00:34, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::Now that you bring it up, though, I'm starting to question whether it's even necessary for us to report the highest base stat at all, given that a person could just look at [[List of Pokémon by base stats]]... [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 00:37, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::To answer your first message: I'm simply following the definitions the article gives me. By the article's own words: "''The '''Special Attack''' stat determines how much damage a Pokémon can deal using a special move.''" This is what Special Attack is according to the article. I'm a dumb reader who knows nothing about Pokémon and I trust the page to inform me. I just learned that SpA = more damage with special moves. Then the article proceeds to rank Pokémon by SpA. I expect at this point that the Pokémon proclaimed as the one with the highest SpA is the one who does more damage with special moves. Otherwise, why would that information be relevant with the definition the article just taught me?
::::::::::::::::To answer your second message: Personally I believe that if you guys really want so much compare base stats and say who has the highest (which I find rather unnecessary, especially with these criteria being used), you should do that in the actual section which deals with the base stats. Not in the section where the article talks about the stats themselves. You can't blame me dumb reader for getting confused if I keep confusing "stats" and "base stats" otherwise. =P [[User:Loudo|Loudo]] ([[User talk:Loudo|talk]]) 00:44, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::::Okay, so you're just being a devil's advocate. Point taken. Those sentences have been removed. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 00:52, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

== Max and Min ==

I think that it should say which Pokémon has the highest Base Stat for each Stat and which Pokémon has the lowest of each Stat.[[User:Mangaman13|Mangaman13]] ([[User talk:Mangaman13|talk]]) 23:08, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
:It used to, but as you can see above, people fought over which criteria should be used to determine it, so it was removed entirely to stop the arguing. Personally, I don't think it's all that relevant here; if you want to see, you can just go to the [[List of Pokémon by base stats]] and use the sortable columns there. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 23:15, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

== New Formula ==
i was trying to calculate the IVs of a squirtle i just breeded in pokemon xusing the formulas presented here (inversing them so IV is the result) and found something weird.... at a certain level the max was 26 but at another lvl the min was 29.... so i tried testing diferent values of IVs for him at diferent levels and cant manage to make the numbers fit... think there might be a new formula for Gen VI (other reason for this is because at certain levels the stat will raise by 2 while in others it wont rise... wich mathematically makes no sense to me)... so... does anyone know anything about this? ([[User:Cabasho|Cabasho]] ([[User talk:Cabasho|talk]]) 10:21, 15 February 2014 (UTC))
:Maybe you just did the math wrong. Do it again and make sure there wasn't a mistake. [[User:Mangaman13|Mangaman13]] ([[User talk:Mangaman13|talk]]) 22:45, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
::I don't think the formula has changed at all. If you're having any trouble with the math yourself, you could always use the [http://www.psypokes.com/dex/iv.php Psypokes] calculator, which seems to be very accurate for even Gen VI. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy (瀬藤健二)]] ([[User talk:Schiffy|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|Contribs]]) 22:47,2/15/2014 (UTC)
:::found my mistake, sorry about this, i was forgetting i had to round down both before and after applying the nature modifier [[User:Cabasho|Cabasho]] ([[User talk:Cabasho|talk]]) 00:47, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

== How are the modifiers applied? ==

I've been up and down this article, and I am more confused than a hippie at Woodstock.

There is no example or step by step of the results of a modifier. Like what happens when a Lax Nature Aegislash in shield forme with 252 EVs (438) on its Def stat uses Iron Defense; does that make its in battle Def be 876?

I do not have a head for math, and all this talk of fractions and stages with no real example has me all kinds of confused. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 04:18, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
:Changing the wording did not do much to relieve me of my confusion. Again, I am not good with math.

:All I see is a table with numbers, but nothing illustrated beyond that. I am still in the dark as to how, and to what the modifiers are applied to. What is being multiplied by 1.5, what is being multiplied by 2.0 ect...the article is still leaving out this part. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 05:30, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
::The stat itself is multiplied — the thing you see on the Summary screen when you view your Pokemon in-game. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 05:42, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
:::Ok thank you. So if for example a Adament Absol with 252 EVs on its Atk Stat (394) used Sword Dance 3 times, its Attack stat would be 1576 if I am understanding this all correctly?[[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 05:49, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

== Stat formula and rounding ==

The current gen 1 stat formula sometimes gives incorrect results (off by one) due to rounding. I believe the correct formula is to calculate (2*base + 2*IV + sqrt(EV)/4) before rounding, and then multiply by level/100. I updated the text to reflect this, but I'm not sure how to fix the images. Anyone know? [[User:Gorypon|Gorypon]] ([[User talk:Gorypon|talk]]) 20:23, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
:You'll have to upload a new image over the old ones on the Archives. [[User:Glik|glik]][[User talk:Glik|glak]] 21:01, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

== RBY stat modifying. ==

There's some stuff [http://www.dragonflycave.com/rbystatmods.aspx here] we could use. [[User:Eridanus|Eridanus]] ([[User talk:Eridanus|talk]]) 13:12, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

== Pokémon with highest stats ==

Should the section on each stat show the non-legendary Pokémon with the highest base stat for that stat? --[[User talk:Player3.25|Brought to you by]] [[User:Player3.25|player 3.25]] 21:46, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

== Garchomp stat Example ==

In the Garchomp example, the Attack, Defense, Sp. Atk and Speed stats are off by one. The cause of this error is due to the rounding down the quatity EV/4. I don't know how to properly edit the images used in the example and would not like to edit the table with the correct stats without editing the formulas first. [[User:Zombiedude347|Zombiedude347]] ([[User talk:Zombiedude347|talk]]) 14:49, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

== Need confirmation before I upload something ==

Are the Pokémon status screens between Pokémon X and Y the same? Like, my status screen features an orange bar at the top of the first page, and a green one at the top of the second page. I only have Pokémon X, so I don't want to make any assumptions. I have a screenshot created with my capture board prepared. --[[User:Chickasaurus|Chickasaurus]] ([[User talk:Chickasaurus|talk]]) 20:50, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
:Edit: These are my screenshots for X, so that people who only have Y may help. <nowiki>http://i.minus.com/jbneKllRFOnm7d.png, http://i.minus.com/jTbdCDUbAJDdc.png</nowiki> --[[User:Chickasaurus|Chickasaurus]] ([[User talk:Chickasaurus|talk]]) 21:04, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
:: Yes, the screens are indeed the same between X and Y. --[[User:SFAfreak|SFAfreak]] ([[User talk:SFAfreak|talk]]) 01:18, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

== Incomplete sections header missing. ==

This page does not have a "Some sections are incomplete" header at the top of the article. Someone who knows how to do this please do so. --[[User:SFAfreak|SFAfreak]] ([[User talk:SFAfreak|talk]]) 01:31, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

== Base HP mechanic ==

When a Pokemon evolves into a new form, it will either increase in HP, or like Shedinja, will be set to 1 HP max. When a Pokemon changes Forme or Mega Evolves, Base HP is never modified. This leads to my question that my friends keep insisting could happen; if any situation presents itself where either Forme Change or Mega Evolution alters the Base HP stat with either an increase or decrease in Base HP, what'll happen to the current HP amount (Not Maximum HP) when this happens in-battle or out? [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] ([[User talk:Shiramu Kuromu|talk]]) 21:52, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
: I believe the ambiguity behind this very question is the exact reason why Game Freak will never make a Mega Evolution or form change that changes base HP. If current HP is kept intact, then a full HP Pokemon transforming into a form with more HP would look like it took damage from nowhere. If the difference between current and maximum HP is kept intact, like with leveling up, then you get the [[Pomeg glitch]] problem where lowering yourself to 1 HP and transforming from the higher-HP form into the lower-HP form would make your HP negative. There's ways around that of course, but why go through the coding trouble? [[User:Blueapple128|Blueapple128]] ([[User talk:Blueapple128|talk]]) 22:28, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

== The Speed Stat is not as the Descriptions Said ==
And they're not only spread all round the place, some of them are disappointing.

Raikou with a Speed base stat of 115, can reach Mach ~300. But Talonflame with a base stat of 126, can only reach 310 mph (138.5824 m/s). Not even faster than sound.

It gets better. Tornadus, in its Incarnate Form can only reach 200 mph (89.408 m/s) with a base stat of 111, but Latios & Latias with a BS of 110, and Garchomp with 102, are faster than jet fighter planes (Mach 6.72).

Also, Archeops with a BS of 110, same as Latios & Latias, can only reach 25 mph (11.176 m/s) Huh.

Here's another kicker. Rapidash (BS: 105) can only reach 150 mph. Yet it's faster than Garchomp and Pidgeot (BS: 101) who can fly at Mach 2. Even Skarmory's faster (BS: 70) as it can reach 180 mph (80.4672 m/s). But it is Electrike (BS: 65) who is the shining star as it can run at 250 m/s, outrunning both Rapidash & Skarmory.

Another is Dragonite, who can fly at Mach 2 (Earth's Circumference = 40,075 km. Therefore 40,075 km / 16 Hours = 695.747 m/s) only has a BS of 80.

Now for the Disappointments:
Arcanine can only run at 115.4853 m/s (6,200 miles in 24 hours)
Frogadier can only run at 10.16 m/s (2,000 feet in a minute)

But the kicker is Linoone and Dodrio with a BS of 100, can only run at 60 mph (26.8224 m/s) & 40 mph (17.8616 m/s) respectively.

They should really be looking out for these sorts of things. Also I think I just realised what the BS stands for; It's certainly not Base Stat.

Also:

Speeds faster than the eye can see: 250 m/s

Speed of sound: 343.2 m/s

Speed of lightning: 100,137 m/s

Speed of light: 299,792,458 m/s

Note: m/s is metres per second {{unsigned|Geode7}}

:Pokedex entries (or whatever) are not tied to stats in any (reliable) way. You shouldn't expect them to be. Practically (mechanically), it's just flavor text. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 08:46, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

Yet the flavour texts should at least have the courtesy to correspond to the Speed in the mechanics. {{unsigned|Geode7}}
:It might be nice, but all you're doing is dreaming. If you want to change it, this is hardly the place to plead your case... [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 09:06, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

Technically from the descriptions, Lugia should be the second fastest. Seriously, one flap of its wings causes a 40-Day storm? Pidgeot can only hold up a gust for what? 5 minutes or something? If Pidgeot can fly at Mach 2, then Lugia is an easy Mach 80, even 100. Also Raikou should be the fastest. Mach ~300?

It's just, well, I want the day when the games become like the anime, a sort of mishmash between Nintendogs & Pokemon that makes those flavour texts real. Seriously, train a Pidgey to get a jet fighter plane. Coolest idea ever.--[[User:Geode7|Geode7]] ([[User talk:Geode7|talk]]) 09:11, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
:A tip (and no offense, but...): if all you've got is "I wish" and "coolest idea ever", that really belongs on the forums. Talk pages should be about improving the wiki (or clearing up confusion). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 09:15, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

Also, oh dear patronising person, if this is what you thought it was all about, then I must disappoint you. You see, one day I had the idea of reverse engineering the speeds of the base stats and corresponding them to the flavour texts. You know, so we could see that a Lugia could fly at speeds of whatever. I thought it was a cool idea and I thought it would be a nice thing for Bulbapedia to have. But alas, flavour texts are flavour texts and I just found myself slightly pissed off from irregularities between the two (as seen above).

Another of my pet hates:

Why all Fire-types are so exaggerated. (Seriously, 1,600 degrees Celsius is the hottest magma can reach Game Freak). I just now cut a zero in all flavour texts regarding Fire-Types.

Absolute Zero. now this is a more widespread nitpick that is basically, if you remove all energy, aren't you also destroying energy? Isn't that impossible? (Yes, yes I know, imagination, fantasy and all that pizzazz)

Now, my pet likes:

Electrike. Uses. Adiabatic Friction. To Its Advantage.
So if this train of thought continues and Manectric has essentially mastered that, how fast is Manectric? Because as it goes faster and faster, it creates more friction, creating more energy, making Manectric even faster, and so on and so on. Essentially a perpetual energy generator. Can it get as fast as Raikou since its another interpretation of the Raijuu? Well, technically its faster than Raikou, so yes? Oh wait, I can't tell because the bloody stats and flavour texts are all over the place!--[[User:Geode7|Geode7]] ([[User talk:Geode7|talk]]) 09:35, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

I actually wanted to go a bit further, and you know, analyse all the pokemon's strengths in comparison to one another and see if such claims were actually true. Like if Machamp could actually throw you over the horizon? How fast is a Crobat? Why is Alakazam so fast for such a frail body? How much force is in Hitmontop's spin? How much speed Ponyta has to jump over Ayer's Rock (which, when I think about it, is faster than Rapidash). Stuff like that.--[[User:Geode7|Geode7]] ([[User talk:Geode7|talk]]) 09:47, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

Also, Game Freak were the ones that created the game mechanics as well as the flavour texts but never thought to combine them? Really it's rather simple. Hell, I can even do it. Just let me get the rest of my data and I should be done.--[[User:Geode7|Geode7]] ([[User talk:Geode7|talk]]) 10:02, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

== ORAS HP Bar? ==

While I was editing the HP in-battle appearance section, I saw a file that isn't existing yet. The missing file:
[[a:File:ORAS HP bar.png]]
Please feel free to upload that file.
P.S. I put an incomplete section template on the section.
[[User:PKMNTrainerRed2|PKMNTrainerRed2]] ([[User talk:PKMNTrainerRed2|talk]]) 07:54, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

== I think I disagree to move this article to Statistics. ==

It is because it sounded like business, or something. So, I disagree. Does anyone have other opinions? [[User:Pokéfan95|Pokéfan95]] ([[User talk:Pokéfan95|talk]]) 10:09, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

== Deal Zero Damage ==

This is an easy method to do zero damage. Was anyone looking for this?
In a Double Battle, a level 1 Burned Shuckle with minumum Attack uses Constrict, a Normal-type physical attack, against another, maximum Defense, level 100 Shuckle with Reflect up. It does not get a critical hit.
The Shuckle’s Attack is 4 since its base Attack is 10, it has 0 IVs and EVs, and it has a hindering Nature.
Shuckle’s Defense:
Its base is 230 and it has an IV of 31 and EVs of 252. It is level 100 and has a helpful Nature.
614 is its stat.
The burn cuts Attack in half. Constrict is not very effective against Shuckle and Reflect cuts power to 1/3 in a Double Battle. Constrict has a power of 10 and plugging into the damage formula:
Damage Dealt: Rand(0.07023464169, 0.08262899022) or rounded to 0, by far. Does this work?
[[User:MMMMMMMMMMMMM|MMMMMMMMMMMMM]] ([[User talk:MMMMMMMMMMMMM|talk]]) 22:47, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

== Turn order decisions ==

Consider the following situation:
*In a double battle, the four participants have speed stats of 100, 99, 97, and 96.
*The pokemon with the speed stat of 100 knocks out the one with the speed stat of 99.
*The experience from this causes the speed-96 pokemon to level up, and it now has a speed stat of 98.

Which pokemon attacks next? The one with the speed stat of 98, which had a speed stat of 96 when the turn began, or the one with the speed stat of 97, which had the higher speed when the turn began?
Is this the same as if the pokemon gets a speed boost during the battle from e.g. its partner using Tailwind?

--[[User:Xolroc|Xolroc]] ([[User talk:Xolroc|talk]]) 12:21, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

== Contradiction ==

The example given for stat calculations, [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Statistic#In_Generation_III_onward here], contradicts itself. It is stated at the beginning that "The stat is also rounded down before the Nature multiplier, if any, is applied.", but this rounding is not performed in the calculations shown, and the special attack example is actually off by one if that rounding is applied. I am asking here rather than just editing the page because it is not clear which piece of information is incorrect; does the rounding occur before or after the nature modifier? [[User:Xolroc|Xolroc]] ([[User talk:Xolroc|talk]]) 17:39, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
:According to [https://www.dragonflycave.com/mechanics/stats this] (and to all I know), the example is off, not the formula/rounding; there's a rounding before the Nature modifier is multiplied. That's not only what the prose says, but also what our general formula says. The offending example formula pictures would need to be recreated (e.g. with [http://www.codecogs.com/eqnedit.php this]) and then reuploaded. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 18:20, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
::I can generate the new image, then. Would just want to make sure it ends up matching the other ones on the page... This wiki ought to have a TeX extension installed for things like this, I think. [[User:Xolroc|Xolroc]] ([[User talk:Xolroc|talk]]) 20:53, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
:::Well, the LaTeX for the attack one (others are trivially modified from it) is `Attack=\left \lfloor \left ( \left \lfloor \frac{\left [12 + 2 \times 130 + \tfrac{190}{4} \right ] \times 78}{100} \right \rfloor + 5 \right ) \times 1.1 \right \rfloor = \left \lfloor \left ( \left \lfloor \frac{320.75 \times 78}{100} \right \rfloor + 5 \right ) \times 1.1 \right \rfloor = \left \lfloor 255 \times 1.1 \right \rfloor = \left \lfloor 280.5 \right \rfloor = 280` but I can't seem to find any renderer to use that gives anything that matches the other equations. The codecogs one you linked above puts it on two lines, and every other renderer I've tried doesn't size things properly. If anyone can figure out how to get that rendered to match the others, please replace the images for accuracy.
:::We really ought to get some kind of built-in math renderer like wikipedia has on here. [[User:Xolroc|Xolroc]] ([[User talk:Xolroc|talk]]) 21:28, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
::::I noticed that the images I need to replace for the formula are split in two, so I've been able to generate files that look perfectly fine since the shorter LaTeX means each half will render in codecogs on one line. But now I'm facing a different problem: it won't let me upload the files! I've asked about this on the editor's hub talk page, which seems to be the closest thing I can find to a help page, so when I figure out how I will get the files uploaded. [[User:Xolroc|Xolroc]] ([[User talk:Xolroc|talk]]) 21:49, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
:::::Thanks, Xolroc. I noticed that you apparently calculated with an Attack EV of 190 instead of 195, so I just changed our Garchomp's EVs (which I think is easier to do) and also recalculated everything with proper rounding. If you want to, you could also try to reupload that HP calculation; it's not exactly wrong, but it doesn't match the HP formula given above, so it might not be as easy to understand to some. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 12:05, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
::::::Actually, it looks like it is wrong. There's a +level term I seem to have missed! --[[User:Xolroc|Felthry]] (F.K.A. Xolroc) ([[User talk:Xolroc|talk]]) 13:18, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
:::::::And then there's an additional +100 in the numerator (that's subsequently multiplied by level and divided by 100), which means it's basically rearranged. Anyway, apparently, not as easy to understand. :P [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 16:16, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
{{indent}}All images have been updated. Turns out some of them had incorrect LaTeX in the description too--one was missing the =, for example. --[[User:Xolroc|Felthry]] (F.K.A. Xolroc) ([[User talk:Xolroc|talk]]) 16:42, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
:Thanks. Shiny! :) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 19:33, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

== Z-Move Boosts ==

In the Section where moves, abilities, and items that affect stats are listed, status Z-moves have yet to added to it. They need to be. {{unsigned|‎Yater31}}

== Platinum Stat Caps ==

After giving Arceus 255 in every Base Stat via PPRE-editing a Platinum ROM, and a traditional Jolly 252 Atk/252 Spe EV spread, I went in-game only to find that, at level 100, Arceus now had 14 Speed (instead of 669).
Curious, I subtracted EVs until it hadn't apparently rolled over, and ended on 196 Spe EVs - which gave Arceus 654 Speed.
Anything more results in 0 Speed, then 1, 2, all the way to 14. So I unintentionally learned that stats cap at 654 - except for HP; haven't yet found the cap for that.
Also, the stat only hits this cap if it's boosted by Arceus's Nature - I tried the same thing on a 248 HP/252 Def/10 Sp. Def Bold Arceus, and Defense was the one to roll over.

Rather interesting, in my opinion; I hadn't known this cap existed before I started to level up my Arceus.
Also doubt it had to do with the ROM itself; it was still a normal Platinum ROM, just with an overpowered Arceus (because the 'God' Pokémon should be overpowered, in my opinion).
[[User:PokeMaster99999|PokeMaster99999]] ([[User talk:PokeMaster99999|talk]]) 20:25, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

Talk:Cipher Key Lair

2017-07-14T07:28:40Z

PokeMaster99999: Cipher Peon Jelstin Location Error

== Cipher Peon Jelstin's Location ==
On the main article, Cipher Peon Jelstin (the female Peon with the Roselia, Hoppip, Masquerain and Bellossom) is listed as being on the Fourth Floor.
However, in order to battle her, the player must go up the northeast stairs on 1F, then go south on 2F, then take the stairs down, back to 1F (the distinctive middle portion of 1F can be seen from the top left corner of the room Jelstin resides in).

Shouldn't Jelstin's info be moved to the 1F table? I'd do it myself, but I'm afraid I'll break the formatting there (I have inadvertently done so in the past, both on this wiki and others).

[[User:PokeMaster99999|PokeMaster99999]] ([[User talk:PokeMaster99999|talk]]) 07:28, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

Talk:Hoenn Route 123

2015-11-08T06:11:11Z

PokeMaster99999: /* ORAS Map? */ new section

There's been an edit war with the "Celebi glitch" mentioned. Can anyone tell me what it is? Also, if it's a glitch, then shouldn't it be left to glitch pages, and not the actual route article? --[[User:Someone Else|Someone Else]] 14:13, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

== Tree Maze Confusion ==

I found a Rare Candy and PP Up at the maze in the southeast corner in my Emerald game, both hidden, but the route description seems to refer to only two paths in the maze, where I clearly saw three! I have no access to Ruby or Sapphire, but did this tree maze change between the games? I suspect the PP Up to be Emerald-only because of this, but I might be wrong. I understand the description refers to Ruby and Sapphire, but the Rare Candy it mentions I found in Emerald as well. Can someone with Ruby or Sapphire help clarify this? --[[User:Chicobo329|Chicobo329]] 06:24, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

== Weather conditions with Route 119 ==

This article said that there would be thunderstorms here when {{rt|119|Hoenn}} has thunderstorms, but my ([[berry glitch]]ed) game has thunder in 119 but rain here. I edited the article to try to account for it - but what happens when Route 119 has other weather conditions? [[User:AySz88|AySz88]] 01:56, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

== CONTEST- SUPER words ==

After have some problems with those words playing with my pokemon sapphire, and a bit of research on google, I got this info about the Berry Master wife:

- To get the words "CONTEST" and "SUPER" in your vocabulary you need beat the Elite 4.([[User:.Rawr!|.Rawr!]] ([[User talk:.Rawr!|talk]]) 07:50, 28 December 2014 (UTC))

: Added to article. [[User:AySz88|AySz88]] ([[User talk:AySz88|talk]]) 00:43, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

::This information is incorrect I have successfully used all 5 codes in my version of Alpha where I have only 6 Gym badges, the only problem I had was I didn't type the first one in capitals, after that I have used all fully capitalised and they worked perfect. [[User:Tsitra|Tsitra]] ([[User talk:Tsitra|talk]]) 21:21, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
::: Might it be RSE-only, and not ORAS? [[User:AySz88|AySz88]] ([[User talk:AySz88|talk]]) 22:11, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
::: Judging by recent changes, the E4 requirement is indeed RSE-only. [[User:AySz88|AySz88]] ([[User talk:AySz88|talk]]) 18:10, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

== 123 Go Fish ==

Both this and the secret bases page mentions "123 Go Fish"
what is 123 Go Fish??!
--ZaphodBeeblebrox 23:29, 10 February 2015 (UTC) [ [[User_talk:ZaphodBeeblebrox|talk]] ]

== ORAS Map? ==

I found this map of Route 123 online: http://www.pokebip.com/pokemon/pages/jeuxvideo/pokemon_rubis_omega_ruby_pokemon_saphir_alpha_sapphire/guide_des_lieux/maps/060route123 .jpg (added space so it wouldn't load the image here and clutter the page)

Sure, it may be French, but someone who's skilled at photoshop could remove that (I cannot use it for the life of me), and it's better than the Emerald map, surely - change in graphics and ledges and the like.
Just wanted to share it, in case someone could potentially use it (and update the main page image so it conforms to Gen VI standards). [[User:PokeMaster99999|PokeMaster99999]] ([[User talk:PokeMaster99999|talk]]) 06:11, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Cosplay Pikachu

2015-05-01T09:51:14Z

PokeMaster99999: /* Interesting bit of trivia */ new section

Cosplay Pikachu cannot evolve, but does the [[Eviolite]] work on it? [[User:Sidnoea|Sidnoea]] ([[User talk:Sidnoea|talk]]) 17:30, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

== Interesting bit of trivia ==

Not that it affects anything, or is legitimately possible, but through the use of PKHeX (oh how I love you; now I can skip the unbearable randomness that breeding and Legendary soft-resetting are saturated with), Cosplay Pikachu can be turned into a male; despite this, the heart-shaped tail remains.
Does this possibly mean it *might* be possible a male cosplay Pikachu will become available later? Hope so, as otherwise, useful moves like Icicle Crash, Meteor Mash and Flying Press will be forever locked off for me (I personally only use male Pokémon; heck, I even 'rehacked' BlazeBlack so all female Pokémon would have Base Stats of 1 across the board - which did bring some interesting results, but I'm rambling).
[[User:PokeMaster99999|PokeMaster99999]] ([[User talk:PokeMaster99999|talk]]) 09:51, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Talk:List of glitches in Generation VI

2015-04-05T23:44:11Z

PokeMaster99999: /* Friendship Evolution Glitch */

== Sky Trainers ==

This isn't really a glitch, the player can't speak with them because they're too far away, and when the player steps into the area, they're not programmed to do anything if the player's already fought them. Like the previous rebattling trainers, {{tc|Pokémon Breeder}} in [[Pokémon Black and White Versions 2#Gameplay changes|Black 2 and White 2]]. -[[User:IVsaur|EVsandIVsaurs]] 12:18, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

You can't rematch Sky Trainers, though, and Pokémon Breeders could be spoken to after battles. It seems odd that you addressed it as "it always happens", because it clearly doesn't. [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 12:26, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

You can't? I thought I had done that before.... -[[User:IVsaur|EVsandIVsaurs]] 12:56, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

:You can talk to them after you have fought them. However, you need to leave the area and come back later to do so, which is different when compared to other trainers. (Making sure the game is patched to 1.1 may help as well.) --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 23:47, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

== Mystery Egg ==
We should probably mention its effects, shouldn't we?--[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 01:50, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
:I don't think anyone actually knows of any as of yet. [[User:OwnageMuch|OwnageMuch]] ([[User talk:OwnageMuch|talk]]) 21:49, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
::It is known that Mystery Eggs can duplicate after an unspecified amount of time and take up space in the PC Boxes, eventually rendering them unusable. Sort of like the Bad Eggs of previous gens. --[[User talk:Relicant|The]] [[Special:Contributions/Relicant|Truth]] aka Relicant 22:12, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
::: Okay, wasn't it confirmed that the Mystery Egg glitch was happening to ''one guy'' because of a hardware issue, not anything to do with the game's coding? In that case, I don't think it qualifies for Bulbapedia coverage any more than Pokemon X Special Headless Edition does. Unless there's actual reports of other players with this problem who probably don't have the same hardware issues, in which case, please link me to them. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 22:47, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
:::People have been receiving them off Wonder Trade, and some have had them pop up in their boxes randomly. It's not "just one guy". --[[User talk:Relicant|The]] [[Special:Contributions/Relicant|Truth]] aka Relicant 23:00, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
:::: I say again, give me a link to actual proof. I don't want to go by hearsay, because hearsay is what started the whole "bad eggs on WT because people started hacking" fiasco despite hacking being quite impossible at this point. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 01:00, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::I don't think anyone actually has gotten Bad Eggs from Wonder Trade. To my knowledge, people (who didn't get them) just speculated that was where they came from. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 03:24, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
Well, I found [http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/60943/t1911857-mystery-eggs/ two] other people who got them, though the thread quickly devolves into "they're from wonder trade because hacks!" nonsense. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 15:15, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
:I've heard that it may have something to do with the SD card. Bishopped (the guy with the video) said that the eggs remained in his game even when he made a new save too.--[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 06:05, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
::They will duplicate in every box, and if all boxes are filled, they will replace your team. [[User:BlueJolteon|BlueJolteon]] ([[User talk:BlueJolteon|talk]]) 10:15, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
:::Well I have tried and succeeded in viewing game data from the cartridge, and seeing that even being able to get into the game's code is semi-easy, you could easily recreate your boxes and whatnot. I've watched people copy pokemon by using the sd card. I don't understand most of the code within the data, but all of your pc information is stored in your sd. I saw a guy deposited a pokemon on the gts and he re-wrote his sd card to have its previous data, he was able to "go back in time" and withdraw a pokemon from te gts but it wasalso in it's pc. And if the gts is still on the same lines as the previous one, who says that no one got a hacked egg from the gts and somehow spread it? Not very much proof, but theories and other occurrences is what I'm relying on. [[User:Kiko2558|Kiko2558]] ([[User talk:Kiko2558|talk]]) 06:42, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
::::That's a pretty wild claim, Kiko. I don't suppose you could supply some proof that you've gotten into the game's code? From what I've heard, it's quite far from easy this generation. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 16:31, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
:::::You can still mod your 3DS to get into significant parts of the code. But to the point, the game does store the data on the SD card for the Pokémon. It doesn't make sense to anyone at the moment, so most just copy the whole thing so that they can do the GTS clone trick since the data for the GTS Pokémon isn't stored on the SD card. As for the Mystery Egg issue, we would need video proof that someone can trade it to another cart without using SD cards. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 00:22, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
::::::I'd been under the impression that the game kept track of its most recent save file, so the player couldn't just swap in an earlier one like that. Am I mistaken? Can you provide some proof for this? [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 03:14, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
:::::::[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Sau6iqSsEE This was what I was referring to.] It looks like if this worked, then the 1.2 patch fixed it. A different cloning glitch would is discussed [http://forums.glitchcity.info/index.php?topic=6791.0 on Glitch Laboratories] and [http://projectpokemon.org/forums/showthread.php?34160-Cloning-Pokemon-in-X-Y on Pokemon Project]. A good video of it is [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMTR6bq3A9E located on Youtube.] --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 03:52, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

This glitch might be created by acquiring pokemon by illegitimate means, and the code will terminate all pokemon in the same box as the cheated pokemon. This is just a basic guess made by complete nonsense, so it might not even be close to the reason. You can never too be sure, anyways. [[User:Space1255|Space1255]] ([[User talk:Space1255|talk]]) 13:21, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
: Nnnnnnnnnnnnope. This glitch showed up long before any cheating devices were created. Not to mention that now that cheating ''is'' possible, no one's apparently managed to accidentally stick themselves with a Bad Egg. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 16:37, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

I just encountered this glitch, and since I didn't acquire any Pokemon via hacking or any other illegitimate means, I can safely say that it has nothing to do with illegitimate Pokemon. I don't know how I got it (nor how to show proof of it, I'm kind of a noob to this Bulbapedia thing), but I am working on seeing all of its effects. [[User:Andy_314|Andy_314]] ([[User talk:Andy_314|talk]]) 01:54, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
: Well, just showing proof that it happened would be a good start. Take a photo of your 3ds's screen (I'm assuming you don't have a capture card :P) and upload it on Imgur or Imageshack or wherever. And if you do figure out anything else, do tell. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 03:38, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
::I think a good step is figuring out what happens when it hatches. Yes, it will freeze and screw up your game, that's a given.
::Y'know, I don't feel so bad about using a Power Saves any longer; I can borrow someone, trade a bad Egg (X) out, then trade it into the backup cart. (Y) and crush it with a save overwrite for the backup cart. Victory for the player. Haven't seen any ill effects of overwriting newer saves with older backed-up ones yet. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 05:01, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
:::I think the first mystery eggs guy confirmed that they take forever to hatch. I'm not sure if he ever actually got one to hatch; it might not even be possible. Regarding Powersaves, that does sound like a good way to get rid of the eggs (sounds like getting rid of bad eggs by reversing the Emerald cloning glitch), but it won't address whatever the underlying problem is that causes the eggs to appear in the first place. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 18:05, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
::::It does, however, accomplish the short-term goal of creating an omelette out of it. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 18:11, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
Okay, I took your advice and have a picture for you: [http://oi57.tinypic.com/m79jcm.jpg] (I still don't know how to make a link actually look like a URL, but it's there and works). The egg hasn't had any real ill effects on my game; it hasn't multiplied, hasn't glitched anything, it has only caused a minor inconvenience of taking up a slot in my PC. I'm currently trying to hatch it, I'll keep you all posted! [[User:Andy_314|Andy_314]] ([[User talk:Andy_314|talk]]) 15:35, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

The whole cause is just a flipped bit in the Pokemon's data. When a checksum is bad, it'll show up as a bad egg. The default data is essentially all zeroes with the name "Egg" (localized to the language) and includes your Country/(3DS)Region/Language, thus is why the 0/0/2000 date appears (the value of 00 00...). — [[User:Kaphotics|Kaphotics]] ([[User talk:Kaphotics|talk]]) 07:16, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

== Wonder Trade evolution movelearning glitch ==

I don't think the description up now is quite right- I received a Phantump over Wonder Trade which, of course, evolved, and in doing so learned a few new moves (it was at level 1, so all its starting moves). Rather than both moves vanishing, the old moves just weren't replaced. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 01:27, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
:I'm pretty sure that the description meant that when a Wonder Traded Pokémon learns a new move that replaces the old move, they both disappear, rather than slots being filled. -- [[User:Pringles|Pringles]] 23:23, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
::The Phantump I received had all four moveslots filled up already (egg moves, I guess), if that's what you mean. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 23:37, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

== Pumpkaboo Hp problem ==
Whilst training pumpkaboo with the exp.share, I viewed my party and noticed that pumpkaboo - which was never used once in battle - mysteriously had 1 less Hp than maximum. No clue why or how. [[User:CraftyWeavile|CraftyWeavile]] ([[User talk:CraftyWeavile|talk]]) 22:49, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

Maybe it got EVs? --[[User:Flametix|Flametix]] ([[User talk:Flametix|talk]]) 22:48, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
:I think it gained an HP point through EV training. Because you weren't at the Pokémon Centre since that happened, it looks like Pumpkaboo wasn't getting maximum HP. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 18:13, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
::Doesn't gaining HP through EV training also "heal" you by the same amount? [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 21:26, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
:::Maybe that's the problem with Pumpkaboo. It doesn't "heal" that 1 HP. If so, that should be easy to test; keep it in the field and monitor it against an Audino Safari. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 21:46, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
:::: The problem may not lie with the species, though. Unfortunately, since this was from nearly a year ago now, I doubt CraftyWeavile will be able to recall any specifics that could lead us to the source either of the glitch or the damage (they might have well put Pumpkaboo into battle at some point and forgot they did it). [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 23:36, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

== Friend Safari Menu Glitch ==
When on Friend Safari, while being online with the other player, I met a Butterfree, Beautifly and Vivillion (3rd slot). But after coming out the menu displaying for that certain Safari did not display Vivillion but the Pokéball sign remained. I went back in and confirmed that Vivillion was in fact there. But when I came back out again no Vivillion was still displayed.--[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] ([[User talk:Wowy|talk]]) 23:36, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
:The Vivillon icon glitch used to be here but some believe it to be intentional. Though in my opinion it's quite clearly not, at the very least don't add that back on the page until there's a consensus supporting its readdition. '''Soulweaver''' (U.S.) ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 00:02, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
::Vivillon does show up properly in my Safari listing where it exists. I believe this to be a glitch and consent to its readdition. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 18:14, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

==Daycare Sign glitch==
I've run by just about every sign that's the same type as the Daycare's with no glitches; the two in front of Connecting Cave's entrances don't turn your head until you're directly in front of them, though. The only sign I know I haven't checked is the one in front of the monument in Geosenge. Also, the sign at the beginning of Santalune Forest doesn't cause the head turn, but it's a different kind of sign. [[User:Glik|Glik]] ([[User talk:Glik|talk]]) 02:35, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
:Well, I just went to the Friend Safari, the Battle Chateau, and the Connecting Cave signs and got a reaction from the four, but still nothing for the Day Care. I will note that if your a step away from being infront of the sign, your head will turn towards the sign just a bit. (As for the Trainer Tip signs, they act a bit weird in that the player will only face the closest part of the sign, but I still get a reaction.) --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 06:00, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
:Guessing this sign is similar to route signs which have the same behavior. Your head won't turn towards a route sign, but they still display text. I could spend the rest of the day going through all the signs in the game, but I'm sure there's quite a few signs that share the same behavior as the Day Care sign. [[User:Rcmaehl|Rcmaehl]] ([[User talk:Rcmaehl|talk]]) 14:59, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
::Well, the problem is that it isn't designed as a route sign. It is designed as a notable location sign. Yet, this is the only sign of its design that I have seen in the game that does not act as it should. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 03:16, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

==Possible Damage Glitch==
As I was doing a triple battle at restaurant le yeah, I had a lv 100 charizard, 52 typhlosion, and 46 swampert. My charizard mega evolves and uses solar beam on a level 31 sigiylf, no problem there. My fully special attack ev trained lv 52 typhlosion uses an eruption and gets a crit on swampert, does half health, still sort of normal. Then my swampert, who has almost no ev training at all, uses earthquake on my typhlosion, super effective, critical hit, does only half health. (Also, I just left out the mantine and Emolga since they used protect or something). No video proof, it only happened once. {{unsigned|Kiko2558}}

FLAMETIX:
Maybe the Swampert had an Attack lowering nature.

Also, here's damage calculations from Showdown's damage calculator:
0- Atk Swampert Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 252+ Def Typhlosion on a critical hit: 74-90 (46.5 - 56.6%) -- 69.9% chance to 2HKO

Lowest attack possible with the Typhlosion being EVd in Defense results in a 2HKO.

0- Atk Swampert Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0+ Def Typhlosion on a critical hit: 98-116 (51 - 60.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

EV'd in HP.

Triple battles and doubles lower the power of multi target moves, and both things point to doing a 2HKO.

It depends on the Swampert's stats: if it's not a -Attack or it has high IVs, it can change. --[[User:Flametix|Flametix]] ([[User talk:Flametix|talk]]) 22:56, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

== Move overwriting glitch ==

This seems like intentional behavior to me. Either they simply let the Pokémon use the move that it no longer knows, or it lets the Pokémon use the new move, which could cause problems. For example, if you select a move that hits multiple targets, and then replace it with a move that has only a single target before the move is made, then what? The only other alternative is to force the Pokémon to make no move at all.

So, this doesn't really seem like a glitch to me. Interested to hear what you think. --[[User:Dada|Dada]] ([[User talk:Dada|talk]]) 14:38, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
:Dunno. In Generation III at least, the new move is used. [[User:Eridanus|Eridanus]] ([[User talk:Eridanus|talk]]) 16:18, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

== Memory girl glitch ==

Having defeated a few of the battle chatelaines - with Xerneas sitting out in my party during the battles - I checked its "memories" in Anistar city, and found that "Xerneas battled at <name>'s side and defeated a battle chatelaine." [[User:CraftyWeavile|CraftyWeavile]] ([[User talk:CraftyWeavile|talk]]) 03:24, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

== Super Training forme glitch ==

I'm thinking of adding this to the page, but does anyone want to confirm it first?

If the [[Super Training]] screen is visible while certain Pokémon change [[forme]], it will show the Pokemon in their previous forme instead of their current one. The Pokémon will be shown in its proper forme after switching to a different screen (even the Super Training Regimen screen) and back. This happens with {{p|Burmy}} (whose form changes automatically after a battle) and {{p|Rotom}} (whose form can be changed using the boxed appliances in Sycamore's lab), and possibly others ({{p|Shaymin}}?).

--''[[User:Stratelier|Stratelier]]'' 19:30, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

:I tested this with {{p|Rotom}} and it didn't show his changed forme until I went into the Regimen screen so that does work! But I tried with {{p|Shaymin}} and {{p|Kyurem}} and it didn't work, I believe their forme has to be changed without re-loading the screen for it to work. Since the {{key|IV|Gracidea}} and {{key|V|DNA Splicers}} cannot be registered you have to go into your bag which will re-load their sprites in the [[Super Training]]. --[[User:DanceMan|DanceMan]] 20:13, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

== PSS standby glitch ==

This has to be the #1 most obvious glitch I've personally encountered in XY, and I've heard anectodal tales of other people having the same issue:

If the player is connected to the Internet via PSS, suspending the game software by any means (e.g: closing the 3DS lid, or pressing the HOME button) will trigger a "communication error" message (e.g. code 003-4099) immediately upon returning to the game. This does not happen when using the GTS (where the HOME button is disabled).

--''[[User:Stratelier|Stratelier]]'' 20:53, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
:This hardly seems like a glitch to me. It makes sense that putting the game on standby would disconnect it from the most energy consuming part of the game, connecting to the Internet. ☆[[User:Solar Dragon|The]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|Solar]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|Dragon]]☆ 20:56, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
:: The 3DS generally disconnects from the internet when closed. This happens if you have the browser open, too, though that just reconnects without any message. I believe this happened on the DS as well. So no, not a glitch, just a normal (3)DS function. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 02:00, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

::I can confirm what Yamiidenryuu said, this is not a glitch the 3DS is functioning as intended.[[User:Rcmaehl|Rcmaehl]] ([[User talk:Rcmaehl|talk]]) 06:59, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

==Sylveon==
Not sure if it's a glitch or not, but thought I might mention it here. I've had this happen to me before and others have also seen it too, but a Sylveon which evolved from a non-Kalos native Eevee doesn't register on the Pokédex. It seems the game doesn't recognise non-native Kalos Pokémon, which could possibly be on purpose.--[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] ([[User talk:Wowy|talk]]) 02:31, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
:I'm not sure about it "not recognizing" non native Kalos Pokémon, since everything I've ever obtained in my Gen VI game that came from an older game still registers, but the symbol for it being "caught" on the Pokédex is a Pokéball instead of the Kalos symbol (it's been known that this happens if the only Pokémon you've ever gotten of that species have been from non Gen VI games), but regardless, they still do register. So a Sylveon not showing up as caught seems to be a bug, probably (and this is only a guess, mind you) that the {{tt|69|70-72?}} Gen VI Pokémon are set to never have that symbol in the Pokédex next to their name, which also shows up from evolutions. For example:
:*Getting a non-Kalos native Eevee (without ever having obtained an Eevee otherwise) would give you the Pokéball symbol, evolving it into any of the older Eeveelutions would give that Pokémon the same symbol in the Dex.
:*Getting that same Eevee, but evolving it into a Sylveon should ''logically'' give the Sylveon the Pokéball symbol, but the game's Pokédex is probably programmed to not do this for any Pokémon introduced in Gen VI, which Sylveon was.
:Regardless, I'd say this is in fact an oversight/glitch, not something intentional on Nintendo's part. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy (瀬藤健二)]] ([[User talk:Schiffy|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|Contribs]]) 03:18,2/20/2014 (UTC)
::"Getting that same Eevee, but evolving it into a Sylveon should ''logically'' give the Sylveon the Pokéball symbol, but the game's Pokédex is probably programmed to not do this for any Pokémon introduced in Gen VI, which Sylveon was" is what I meant when I said that the game doesn't seem to recognise non-native Kalos Pokémon. Sorry if that wasn't very obvious what I meant earlier.
::In any case, should it be added to this page?--[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] ([[User talk:Wowy|talk]]) 03:22, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
:::Ah, my mistake. I see what you were saying. Anyway, since it seems pretty clear that this was some form of oversight, I don't really see why not. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy (瀬藤健二)]] ([[User talk:Schiffy|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|Contribs]]) 03:28,2/20/2014 (UTC)

== Pokémon-Amie Glitch not a glitch ==

I do not think that is a glitch, I think that is just how new Pokemon are until they are fed. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 23:33, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
: I doubt it. If the intent was to imply the trainer gets better at reading a Pokemon's emotions as they got to know each other, or that the Pokemon grew to be more open with the trainer, I'd expect it to last at least until an actual affection levelup, not just until the tiniest bit of affection is earned. And it doesn't change the fact that a Pokemon in this condition will ''like'' being petted in its disliked spot, which doesn't make sense at all. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 01:53, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

The 'disliked spot' in most Pokemon are spots that they know can harm their trainers, eg. Espurr's ears, Honedge's cloth. They prefer to let their trainers pat them in those spots due to the fact they have no sentimental value to the trainer, as they have 0 affection until they are fed, which they then gain 1. Basically, with no affection, the Pokemon doesn't care whether their trainers get harmed or not. The Pokemon-amie reaction glitch is not a glitch, else it would have already been patched. [[User:EnderoftheEnd|EnderoftheEnd]] ([[User talk:EnderoftheEnd|talk]]) 06:51, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
: ... There's a buttload of exceedingly minor glitches in these games that have yet to be patched, as evidenced by this very page. Nintendo has no real reason to care about anything this vanishingly insignificant, compared to something that completely ruins the game like the Lumiose save glitch. That doesn't prove it's deliberate.

:Also, even if that was the case, I don't think all of one point of affection out of the hundreds of points you max out at would be enough to make a Pokemon care deeply about you. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 14:27, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
::It makes sense why Beedrill hates being petted on its stingers, then. However, Pikachu hating being petted on its stomach makes zero sense. I agree with Yamiidenryuu, one point out of all those points for max affection doesn't make sense for it to suddenly care for its trainer. Purely visual glitches are usually not patched, unless it makes the game unplayable (e.g. making all NPCs invisible or something). [[User:Pikachu Bros.|Pikachu Bros.]] ([[User talk:Pikachu Bros.|talk]]) 14:45, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
:::Well, think of it this way...when you are at a petting zoo, those animals are petted all day. They could care less if a new child comes up and starts petting them. Now if a kid shows up with those pellets, that there is a game changer. The animal will act special towards that kid, hoping for more food. its like "Oh you are so awesome, please pet me, don't mind me while I nibble those pellets out of your hand." then when another kid shows up without food its like "Hey kid unless you got some peanuts in your pocket backoff until I am done with this awesome guy here who I totally like not because he is feeding me pellets but because he is awesome."
:::lol but seriously, any animal will be more (genuinely) affectionate towards you after giving them food. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 01:09, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
:::: Feeding isn't the only way to get that first affection point. You can open Amie, close it for a bit and open it again; after that you can get like one heart by petting the Pokemon, and the glitch will stop taking effect. I expect you can do the same by playing a game with the Pokemon, allowing you to get more hearts by petting. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 15:48, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

== Back-to-Back WonderTrade System Date/Time Save Glitch ==

If you select WonderTrade, the game saves and then takes you to the WonderTrade interface. Once your trade is completed, or you exit out without trading, you are taken back to the PSS interfect. From there, if you select WonderTrade again, the time and saved will be the same time and date saved from the first interaction. This will continue until the PSS Menu Interface is exited out.

So for instance, If I was trying to get a WonderTradeWednesday Pokémon from @BulbaTrade, If I saved at 2/26/2014 at 18:39, If I select WonderTrade again, it will continue saving 2/26/2014 at 18:39 no mater how much time has passed. Only the Time and date retrieved from the system seems effected by this glitch. The Player's Time they've played the game will continue to move forward. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 23:47, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
: This happens if you use the GTS as well, so it seems like it's a problem with the PSS menu rather than Wonder Trade. Incidentally, I could swear this glitch didn't occur before the 1.2 patch, but I don't think there's any way to test that anymore... [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 01:53, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
::I believe it is as well. You can remove your SD card to check, since the patch is on there and not the game itself. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 02:26, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
::: I know that, but without the upgrades, you can't get online. I'll try it later, but I'm not sure I'll even be able to get to the right parts of the menu. ._. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 14:56, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
::: Ha ha nope, couldn't even load the game. Got a message about the SD card not being recognised. I think there's a way around that, but for now I'm stuck. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 21:48, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
:::: I guess until its able to be researched, we can add the glitch under All versions? [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 22:12, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
:::::This appears to also happen with the battle maison.[[User:CraftyWeavile|CraftyWeavile]] ([[User talk:CraftyWeavile|talk]]) 05:22, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
How does this happen with the Battle Maison, and you describe it? [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 07:02, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
:*Can you describe it?* typo. Anyways I seems to be unable to repeat it properly so can you describe the process in which this occurs? [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 23:37, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
I think a while back, someone asked if the Pokedex count was affected or not (though apparently not here?), and I can confirm that it updates correctly- receiving a Pokemon I didn't already have over Wondertrade changed my dex count from 666 (hah) to 667, as it should. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 02:33, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

== Holocaster Stereo Camera Glitch? ==

I am not sure about the 3DS, since I have a 2DS...but when I go to the Holocaster's menu and select the '''Check Announcements''' option, the front stereo cameras activate. Is this a glitch, or a feature meant for something further down the line like QR code recognition or whatever? [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 02:11, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
: I don't know about the 2DS, but on the 3DS it shows whatever the cameras capture behind the announcer lady, in 3D. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 21:47, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

== Glittering Cave Glitch ==

I don't think anyone has noticed this, but in the room where you meet Team Flare for the first time, there is a graphical glitch. First, break open the rock in the top right corner of the room. Then, take a step forward. You should notice that your hat/head goes through the wall. [[User:PixelMuffin|PixelMuffin]] ([[User talk:PixelMuffin|talk]]) 16:18, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
:Added. Should check Terminus Caves and the like to see if there's any more. [[User:Glik|Glik]] ([[User talk:Glik|talk]]) 16:42, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

:Shall do, while I have the time. Meanwhile, though, I can tell you that nothing like this occurs in Reflection cave, or the rest of Glittering cave. [[User:PixelMuffin|PixelMuffin]] ([[User talk:PixelMuffin|talk]]) 21:29, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

:Ok, so I've checked all of the caves now, and I can assure you that this happens in none of the other caves, not even the little ones like Unknown Dungeon. Have a nice day, guys. [[User:PixelMuffin|PixelMuffin]] ([[User talk:PixelMuffin|talk]]) 21:29, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

::I've noticed that a few of the trees on the south end of route 14 tend to look as if they have pierced the player's hat thoroughly.[[User:CraftyWeavile|CraftyWeavile]] ([[User talk:CraftyWeavile|talk]]) 05:17, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

::: There seems to be a good handful of problems with model collision in general. Mawile's extra mouth will clip through the floor when it turns to you in battle, Talonflame's wing clips through its own body right at the base... [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 18:03, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

:::: Oh yeah, I've noticed this too. I remember one time I used False Swipe on an Onix in Glittering cave, and half it went through the wall! [[User:PixelMuffin|PixelMuffin]] ([[User talk:PixelMuffin|talk]]) 21:29, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
:::::If clipping issues are that prevalent, perhaps a sub page could be made? I haven't noticed any, but I'm terrible at small details if I'm not consciously searching for them. [[User:Glik|glik]][[User talk:Glik|glak]] 01:15, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
:::::: I don't think it needs its own subpage, since it's a relatively minor glitch that just has lots of examples. A general subsection would probably be best. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 16:24, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
::::::: I've noticed that this glitch has been taken off the page? Was there a problem in terms of being genuine? If that's the right word? [[User:PixelMuffin|PixelMuffin]] ([[User talk:PixelMuffin|talk]]) 20:10, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
The reasoning given for its removal that that it was a "sprite error" rather than a glitch. I'm not sure I agree with that, really. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 19:19, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
: I'm not sure I agree with that either, but I can see where they were coming from. Thanks for telling me. [[User:PixelMuffin|Do you know...The Muffin Man?]] ([[User talk:PixelMuffin|talk]]) 15:51, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
:: Does anyone mind if I can add this glitch back to the page? ([[User:PixelMuffin|Do you know...The Muffin Man?]] ([[User talk:PixelMuffin|talk]]) 17:53, 30 August 2014 (UTC))

== Flabebe with Floette's cry ==

Suprised this hasn't been added yet, but in the Battle Chateau, Baroness Francine's Flabebe has a Floette's cry.----[[User:BigBadBatter|Big]][[User talk:BigBadBatter|Bad]][[User:BigBadBatter|Batter]] 21:44, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

==Level disappearing==

When more than one of my team was KO'd in the same turn in doubles/triples, after having chosen one replacement and going for my second selection, I noticed that the replacement's level # was missing. Have found that it returns if I go as far as the summary/check moves screens of any pokemon in the team. [[User:CraftyWeavile|CraftyWeavile]] ([[User talk:CraftyWeavile|talk]]) 03:39, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

== Pokedex glitch ==

Ok, so this glitch isn't something that happened to me, but something I saw on the net a week back. Apparently, if you complete any of the pokedexes with a Pokémon that isn't Kalos-native (Basically, a Pokémon from Gen V), then the game doesn't recognize it, and marks the Pokedex as incomplete. I can find a link to the page, if that'll help (Since I don't make much sense) [[User:PixelMuffin|PixelMuffin]] ([[User talk:PixelMuffin|talk]]) 21:29, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Decided to add a link, so people can understand what I mean better- http://motoringcrunch.com/news/pokemon-x-y-kalos-pokedex-ending-with-a-stray-pre-gen-entry-has-these-consequences/10011335/
[[User:PixelMuffin|PixelMuffin]] ([[User talk:PixelMuffin|talk]]) 16:01, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
: That could be deliberate. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 20:08, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

==Head-Turning Glitch==
Outside Lumiose Station, I've noticed that the player's head turns to examine the entrance of the station rather than the sign. When walking past the sign, the player will still be able to read the sign without facing it.[[User:CraftyWeavile|CraftyWeavile]] ([[User talk:CraftyWeavile|talk]]) 03:09, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
:That's because your head turns to look inside any building. The station is one of the few that actually has signs, and likely this is to not to require players to face the sign manually [[User:Pikachu Bros.|Pikachu Bros.]] ([[User talk:Pikachu Bros.|talk]]) 20:04, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

== Pokemon Center Point of View Glitch ==

This need further testing and documentation, but I have noticed that if you enter a Pokemon Center while riding a bike or roller skating and immediately walk up to the front desk and talk to Nurse Joy to heal your Pokemon, the point of view during the conversation and subsequent healing of your Pokemon is zoomed in a couple different ways. It immediately returns to normal afterwards, but this doesn't seem normal. Has anyone else ever run across this...?

I have Pokemon Y by the way. --[[User:Ulithium Dragon|Ulithium Dragon]] ([[User talk:Ulithium Dragon|talk]]) 15:23, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
:Happens randomly even if you don't go directly to the desk or without using either of those items, and it's pretty clearly an intentional effect to spice up the visits to the center a bit, not a glitch. '''[[User:Soulweaver|Soulweaver]]''' ([[User talk:Soulweaver|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Soulweaver|edits]]) 15:52, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

== Birthday music glitch ==

As this was in need of more info: I had my bday in November and as I always (it's a habit) save inside the Pokémon Center, I loaded the game on my bday and there were no effects or music. Had to leave and re-enter to get the effects and the music. This should be confirmed by someone else to be absolutely sure.

--{{unsigned|MasterErnst}}
:It's far from a glitch; it's like how the seasons don't change in BW until you enter and exit a house, if you saved outside before the month was over: the event doesn't trigger without a location "reset". In the same vein, the birthday music will last after your birthday is over if you save inside the Pokécenter and never leave. [[User:ArcToraphim|Kai]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 20:26, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

== Geosenge sitting stone glitch ==

So there are many stones in Geosenge where you can sit. Well the stone second closes to the Pokémon center has a weird glitch. Whenever you sit on it from the front, the player character twists to the left. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 05:05, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
:Should I add this to the article? [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 04:05, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
::That's just what chairs do, not a glitch. Just look in the hotel. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 06:17, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

== front gates of Parfum Palace ==

So I don't know how I triggered this glitch, but I've done it twice, once in X and once in Y. Unfortunately, trying to [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9_IEqHWi0k record it the second time] failed, and worse yet, the graphics reset when I attempted to do it again, so I can't properly show off the gates, but you get an idea of what happens during the glare: the gates are shown as open, but the animation of them opening works as if the gates were closed, so the gates jump from being wide open to closed-and-opening.

Nothing I've done so far seems to work in triggering the gates to be opened preemptively, so it might have to do with the items I collected while training on route 6. That's my best guess, since I can't repeat that. [[User:ArcToraphim|Kai]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 16:10, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

== Save before PSS ==

I don't know if this should actually be called a "glitch," but the option (in the options menu) to disable forced saving before using PSS features is broken. It doesn't make a difference whether it is on or off, you are forced to save either way. It makes Wonder Trading a real pain.
[[User:Efureie|Efureie]] ([[User talk:Efureie|talk]]) 23:45, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
: It does actually disable forced saving on some features, though. I think connecting to the internet without trying to trade is affected, if I remember correctly... And forced saves before trading is kind of a necessary feature to prevent things like cloning or Pokemon getting deleted, so I imagine that not being disabled is deliberate. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 00:28, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

== Drasna Aura Sphere glitch ==

Can I request the removal of this glitch? I went to battle Drasna to verify this glitch, and can verify that this may not be a glitch after all- The black lines that are seen are actually part of the scenary. You know the two pillars that are next to you when you battle? That's one of them. I know I probably don't make a whole lot of sense, but if you see for yourself, then it'll make a lot more sense. [[User:PixelMuffin|Do you know...The Muffin Man?]] ([[User talk:PixelMuffin|talk]]) 15:51, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
:I tested it for myself, and have concluded that it actually is a glitch. The pillars are in the background, while the black bar appears in the foreground and partially covers Drasna's Pokémon. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zj3OPED2fuY See for yourself.] -- [[User:Umbee|Umbee]] ([[User talk:Umbee|talk]]) 00:52, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
::It's really hard to notice because it only happens for 3 seconds at most, but if you look ''really'' closely you can see the black lines really do make up a fence, like the ones surrounding the pillars. I think the real glitch here is not the black lines, but the fact that the camera doesn't exactly act as it should (Not that I'm making any sense XD) ([[User:PixelMuffin|Do you know...The Muffin Man?]] ([[User talk:PixelMuffin|talk]]) 14:56, 29 August 2014 (UTC))
:::I think we can conclude that there's definitely a glitch going on here, but my low-quality video alone isn't going to tell us what the exact cause is. It's probably worth noting, though, that I've heard claims of the black lines appearing elsewhere on the screen when used on Drasna's other Pokémon. -- [[User:Umbee|Umbee]] ([[User talk:Umbee|talk]]) 19:16, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
::::Haven't heard about that, will make sure to check that out when I get time. Thanks for telling me :) ([[User:PixelMuffin|Do you know...The Muffin Man?]] ([[User talk:PixelMuffin|talk]]) 20:48, 2 September 2014 (UTC))
:::::I have tested it, too! It '''''is''''' actually a glitch, because as the article says, it may be a glitch in the VFX algorithm. I have confirmed it using Mewtwo's Aura Sphere and the black lines are ''way'' to big! --[[User:PokémonXXXPlayer|PokémonXXXPlayer]] ([[User talk:PokémonXXXPlayer|talk]]) 08:11, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
:::::: The VFX algorithm? Do you mind sending me a link to this article? I've never heard of that before. Also, if you use Aura sphere against Dragalge (I forget what it's called XD) you really can make out a fence shape. Those black lines are big though (not sure what that proves but heyho) ([[User:PixelMuffin|Do you know...The Muffin Man?]] ([[User talk:PixelMuffin|talk]]) 08:56, 3 September 2014 (UTC))
:::::::Here is what I see. At the beginning of the fifteenth second in the video, we see Drasna's Pokémon take the hit from Aura Sphere. Aura Sphere is programmed in such a way as to cause the field to temporary appear to be yellow with no details. At the middle of the fifteenth second, after the Aura Sphere object has made contact, Drasna's Pokémon is mostly done recoiling from the attack when most of its model is suddenly covered obscured by yellow. The only available details at this moment is the head, part of the left wing, the left leg which is slightly faded, and the tail which is also faded. Towards the end of the fifteenth second, the yellow field returns to the normal field, which now shows the fence that covers the rightmost incense emitter is now in the foreground, while the battle is the background. Thus, the camera angle for Aura Sphere causes an issue with the field, but it is only after Aura Sphere hits since the animation of Aura Sphere ignores the fence until that point. I would like to note that there either the field for Drasna's Chamber is different from the other fields for the Elite Four or that no one has checked to see if the other fields cause this same issue. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 21:03, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
: I didn't test exhaustively, but I didn't get any of the other E4 fields to glitch out with Aura Sphere. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 22:21, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
:: Then the fields for the other chambers must be different since Aura Sphere causes the camera angle to be set a fixed distance away. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 05:46, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

== Bike Music glitch ==

The bike music glitch that has appeared in previous generations- The one where the bike music will play again when you save the game in a city and then reset, even when the city theme is playing- also appears in X and Y. I tested it in boredom. [[User:PixelMuffin|Do you know...The Muffin Man?]] ([[User talk:PixelMuffin|talk]]) 17:28, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

== Fainted Pokemon Evolving ==

This is a beneficial glitch, but a glitch nonetheless. When a Pokémon gains a level and then faints in battle, if it was at a high enough level to evolve, it will after battle.
For example, I was trying to evolve a Spewpa into Vivillon. I battled a trainer who had two Pokeémon. I had the Exp. Share on. I defeated the trainer's first Pokémon, and Spewpa gained a level. It was now at a high enough level to evolve. On the trainer's second Pokémon, I accidentally used U-Turn and had to switch Pokémon. I switched out Spewpa. Spewpa fainted. I switched back to my original Pokémon and defeated the trainer. To my surprise, Spewpa evolved into Vivillon. It's interesting to note that it wasn't revived after evolving.
[[User:Efureie|Efureie]] ([[User talk:Efureie|talk]]) 12:48, 13 May 2014 (UTC)
: I know that's supposed to happen in at least some games, so it very well might be by design rather than an error. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 13:52, 13 May 2014 (UTC)
::I don't know if I consider this a glitch. It met the requirements to evolve. So, if it reaches Lv.100 while in a pre-evo (trainer's choice) and then faints, it can never evolve? I think it's allowed to happen as a safety measure more than anything. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 15:11, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

== Graphics cache flushing oversight (An image overlap) ==

As the list says this needs talking about. I found a trigger: after being in a 3D area with the 3D on, enter a 2D area (or at least when the 3D light turns off) turn off the 3D. Then go into a 3D area where a field move can be used, as you use the field move the screen temporarily flashes white, quickly turn on the 3D and the last screen you had 3D on will overlap the Pokemon using the field move. But I still have no idea why this happens.--{{unsigned|DanceMan}}

== weird can't walk glitch ==

Ok, so every now and then, I run into a glitch where I come out of a menus, then I try to walk by a NPC through a path that goes through a spot the NPC was just at, and the character acts like the NPC is still there. Has anyone else run into this? [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 01:47, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

== O-Power and Super Training Visual Glitches ==

Just had this happen earlier today: http://p.twpl.jp/show/orig/xdyUC

It's mostly a visual glitch. If I touched the bottom "speed power" I'd get speed power like usual, but if I touched the top one I'd get attack power. So it seems like just the graphic is wrong. But what's interesting is if I touched that blank spot, nothing would happen. So it's not just the screen not being drawn correctly; the menu itself got corrupted somehow. I'm not sure how. I tried to scroll it with the stylus and it seemed to "stick" for a moment and then this. It stayed like this when I scrolled and when I selected a power and then went back; it only fixed itself when I actually used an O-Power.

A similar thing I've seen is that you can often trigger one thing while another thing is activating. For example touch something on the Pokemon-amie or Super Training screen, then immediately press L/R; you hear the sound as if you touched it and maybe even see it react but then the screen switches. Sometimes I've also pressed a button or walked into something while passing into a loading zone, and it'd start to open a menu or play a sound while fading the screen out. You can see the player character walking around while it fades out too. I haven't found any useful effects from this but I wouldn't be at all surprised if you can cause some interesting glitches by doing these things with precise timing; after all, so many glitches are just the result of "what if I do this and this at the exact same time"?

Not quite related: at one point I noticed what I think is a sprite glitch as well. I had Mightyena on the Super Training screen (beating up a bag) while walking around and I looked down and saw his icon-sprite ([[File:Ani262MS.png]]) right beside the left arrow (that you can touch to switch to Pokemon-amie). I thought maybe it's telling me to check the other pages, so I pressed L a couple times, but nothing seemed unusual, and when I came back to the Super Training screen, the sprite was gone. I don't know if this is something that's supposed to happen? Seemed like a glitch to me since it didn't appear to actually ''do'' anything. [[User:HyperHacker|⬡]] ([[User talk:HyperHacker|talk]]) 07:48, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
:Mightyena was probably hungry: [[Pokémon-Amie#Stats]], end of 5th paragraph. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 12:32, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
:: I've seen that effect on both the O-power and GTS request lists, so I guess the glitch applies to all lists using that same code/setup. I've discovered that you can consistently corrupt the list in a particular way: Scroll down from the very top with just the right speed and one menu entry will appear to turn into another one two (I think what I usually got was Stealth Power replacing PP Restoring Power). Scrolling during the exact frame when one of your O-power circles fills up also screws things up, probably because the game has to refresh the list to see if any more powers are usable.

:: I actually have video of some of this; I'll try and put it on Youtube soon. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 15:59, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

:::I've been trying to recreate this and see if there are any other interesting effects, but it hasn't happened again since. [[User:HyperHacker|⬡]] ([[User talk:HyperHacker|talk]]) 15:18, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

== Idle speculation about some glitches ==

It seems like some of these glitches are, or might be, caused by people putting X and Y on failing SD cards, especially the save corruption glitch and possibly the Mystery Egg glitch. The previous games wouldn't have had these issues. [[User:FSX|FSX]] ([[User talk:FSX|talk]]) 02:13, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
:I know I have my own corrupted save issue on a regular cartridge, so I do not fully believe it is just the SD cards. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 00:25, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

== Heatran GTS Double Post Glitch ==

[[http://www.4shared.com/download/OwTwjOZ3ce/Snapshot_20140815_2.JPG]]

Ok, so sometimes when I go onto the GTS, deposit a Pokémon and then browse the H's, this happens. I am not sure the cause, but it happens every now and then. If I select something, or leave the list in any way, it turns back to normal. I've stumbled across this glitch several times, this is the first time I was able to get photographic evidence of it. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 12:48, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
: This is a known glitch that affects the sort of list used for both the GTS search and the O-powers. If you scroll down from the top with just the right speed, it'll cause an entry in the list to "disguise" itself as another entry. This only affects how the entry looks. There's an entry just a bit above this one about O-power visual glitches that mentions it. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 15:29, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

== Backward sign-reading ==

I have tried this glitch in many occassions, but it is impossible to read a sign while facing away from it in this way.
I would like to see proof that somebody actually is able to do this, as it would open up new possibilities for glitching
in other scenarios. --> I have found a video on youtube showing this does indeed work. Yet I cannot get it to work.
I would say it has to to something with the amount of active memory, as a cause of lag. I will try to confirm this. {{unsigned|Yavga}}
:What is more likely is that you aren't doing things with frame-perfect timing; one likely would need to read the sign in the same frame as turning away from it; the action of reading (which might be lagged from when (A) is pressed) likely needs to be in the same frame as the attempt to move away. I doubt that the number of actors has anything to do with it, but it is possible there is a thread sync error if it does. [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] ([[User talk:TruePikachu|talk]]) 05:15, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
::Was able to reproduce ONCE, can't seem to do it again. I should buy a raspberry pi for this but I don't want to mutilate my 3DS[[User:Rcmaehl|Rcmaehl]] ([[User talk:Rcmaehl|talk]]) 20:28, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

== Possible Recycle Air Balloon Glitch ==

I use Klefki. Whenever I attempt to Recover my air balloon, it fails, but for every other item it works. Hmm... these are troubling times in the kingdom. {{unsigned|HOTFIER!}}

== ORAS PSS Glitch ==

Not sure if anyone else experiences this, but whenever I connect to the internet, the screen freezes on the connecting message, even well after I've connected and people icons are moving and what friends are online show up. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 19:45, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

:Have the same issue but after about 30-60 seconds, everything unfreezes. I'm guessing if you have slower internet than me it'll take longer. [[User:Rcmaehl|Rcmaehl]] ([[User talk:Rcmaehl|talk]]) 20:26, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

::But its only with ORAS, XY acts normally.[[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 20:29, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
:::It is very possible it is exchanging all the new StreetPass data during the delay. I'm pretty sure that ORAS still exchanges the same info that XY does (Amie visitors is all I can think of right now, which would be a very small structure), but it also needs to exchange mirage spot info, trendy phrase info, BuzzFeed info, and secret base layouts and teams. I'd need to intercept the traffic to make any sort of confirmation about that (which is next to impossible because of the encryption), but checking the total amount of data transferred might give a partial confirmation, as well as an idea of just how much more data is being passed. I can't easily check that right now, though, since prominiscient mode on my main system's network adapter seems to have stopped working after a driver update... [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] ([[User talk:TruePikachu|talk]]) 04:51, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

== Glitches with bookcases and Geosenge ==

Whilst messing around in Looker's Bureau just now, I clicked on the side of the bookcase, and the text came up, despite me clicking on it's side. Did it to the two bookcases in the Lumiose Press, and the same thing happened, it's very similar to the café glitch in Black and White, can this be added as I look for more examples of this? Also, I was hatching an egg in Geosenge, and whilst I was cycling around the hole in the middle of the town, I noticed that in the corners (?) of the hole, the front of my bike partially went through it. [[User:PixelMuffin|Do you know...The Muffin Man?]] ([[User talk:PixelMuffin|talk]]) 21:39, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

== Friendship Evolution Glitch ==
Good day, people. I have looked for this issue but I couldn't find any answer. I am currently playing Pokémon Alpha Sapphire in Spanish and my in-game team was bred in an English Pokémon Omega Ruby version (I don't know if this is related). So, I traded my Pokémon using the Pokémon Bank app from [[Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire|Pokémon Omega Ruby to Alpha Sapphire]]. And my {{p|Togepi}} won't evolve by any means!
At first I thought it could be an error in my cartridge, but then I found some cases while I was looking for them in the internet. Here are some: [http://www.gamefaqs.com/3ds/792673-pokemon-omega-ruby/answers/384388-my-eevee-has-full-friendship-but-still-wont-evolve-into Case1] and [http://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/2o7uvi/oras_my_max_friendship_buneary_wont_evolve/ Case2]. If you search correctly, you'll find many others complaining. So, I guess that this is a widespread glitch, however I'd bet some conditions have to be met.
By the way, I also noticed most people don't believe the thread authors. Statiscally people always ask them if the [[Pokémon (species)|Pokémon]] is holding an [[Evolutionary_stone#Everstone|Everstone]]. Because of that I decided to record a [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7SSlc-f1Vg video] so that you can believe me and maybe help me. Note: you should understand some Spanish in order to understand the [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7SSlc-f1Vg video].
I guess this issue may need further research in order to find out what makes this 'glitch' happen. [[User:Diby esp|Gabriel Rocha (Diby esp)]] ([[User talk:Diby esp|talk]]) 21:52, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
:Perhaps the transfer reset its friendship value? Make sure its friendship is high and try again. If it still does not evolve, then return it to the original game (if possible) and see if it evolves there with high friendship. If the evolution fails in the second game, the glitch should be added to the page. [[User:PartHunter|PartHunter]] ([[User talk:PartHunter|talk]]) 12:40, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
::The same thing happened to me today; I got 3 Igglybuff from the QR exploit, Banked them, and withdrew them in OR (where due to the Blissey Bases, I do most of my levelling and evolving). However, no matter what I did, the Igglybuff wouldn't evolve into Jigglypuff. The Verdanturf friendship checker confirmed that all 3 had 255 happiness ("they couldn't love you more"), and Kelpsy Berries and the like "had no effect". Weirdly enough, though, I managed to evolve a Budew, Chansey, Azurill and Togepi, acquired in similar circumstances, in the last few weeks (up until the 2nd of April, where Xenoblade Chronicles stole my attention). I don't know if this is a fault with ORAS, Bank or any update patches, because I did run into a few other people who had similar problems last December, before update 1.2 or 1.3 (maybe even 1.1?). [[User:PokeMaster99999|PokeMaster99999]] ([[User talk:PokeMaster99999|talk]]) 22:59, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
:Food for thought. In Generation VI, there is new part of the Pokémon data structure that stores the Pokémon's latest owner. Though I'm by far no expert on the workings of Generation VI, I suspect it may be related to that. Maybe there was a glitch in Pokémon Bank where the game doesn't update the latest owner if you transfer the Pokémon to another game and that disables friendship evolution? I have the ability to generate custom Pokémon with a tool and the QR Code exploit that was patched in version 9.5.0-23 (but I never updated my regular 3DS), so I could test this. [[User:Chickasaurus|Chickasaurus]] ([[User talk:Chickasaurus|talk]]) 23:22, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
::Oh, but if it does involve [[Pokémon Bank]] and the glitch was patched out then I guess it may be impossible to try and re-create the glitch now. That would be sad if it remains a mystery. I don't know for sure whether you have to perform a software update to use Pokémon Bank though. Do you? [[User:Chickasaurus|Chickasaurus]] ([[User talk:Chickasaurus|talk]]) 23:30, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
:::I personally have a 3DS (the first kind released), a 3DS XL (which I don't tend to use, as the Circle Pad on it has no rubber; the adhesive wore out, I'm guessing) and a New 3DS XL. I've never actually updated my 3DS, meaning I can (and have) been using the QR exploits for a while. My method is to put my OR cart into my 3DS, get into the game, then when I'm in the 'overworld', I do the exploit, then save my game. I then put OR into my New 3DS XL, and put any Pokémon I 'received' into Bank, as the PokéDex entries obviously don't unlock immediately. As soon as Bank finishes saving, I go straight back in and withdraw said Pokémon. Until now, this has enabled me to evolve anything I put in, but these Igglybuff...I have no idea. I also had a Croagunk that went through exactly the same process, and he evolved into a Toxicroak, so it can't be affecting everything... Anyway, yeah, my Bank is on a different 3DS than the one I use for the QR exploits. [[User:PokeMaster99999|PokeMaster99999]] ([[User talk:PokeMaster99999|talk]]) 23:44, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

== Muting Mauville Food Court ==
I accidentally encountered a glitch in Omega Ruby where after entering [[Mauville City#Food Court|Mauville Food Court]] the music was silent, and if I recall correctly so was the sound effect for exiting(?). I unfortunately cannot replicate the glitch. Has anyone else encountered this? [[User:Chickasaurus|Chickasaurus]] ([[User talk:Chickasaurus|talk]]) 20:19, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

== Ferroseed ==

Any notice whe a Ferroseed come s to the battle its buring? --[[User:HoopsterJohn|HoopsterJohn]] ([[User talk:HoopsterJohn|talk]]) 17:28, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

== Surfing Wailmer Glitch ==
There's some speculation that the Surfing Wailmer glitch is caused by the change in surfing models. Has anyone tried triggering the glitch with a Carvanha? That could help confirm or deny that theory. -- [[User:Umbee|Umbee]] ([[User talk:Umbee|talk]]) 16:58, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

I was the one who discovered said glitch, and yes, I also tested it with a Carvanha. It's only Wailmer that does it. [[User:The Dreamer|The Dreamer]] ([[User talk:The Dreamer|talk]]) 17:00, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

:Has anyone else noticed that if a Sharpedo that does not know Surf uses Dive as a field move, the Pokémon being ridden changes to Sharpedo, even upon surfacing? Does this qualify as a glitch? [[User:PartHunter|PartHunter]] ([[User talk:PartHunter|talk]]) 12:44, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

== Mauville City and DexNav Taillow ==
In the lower-right corner of the central area of Mauville City (the part that contains the Pokémon Center), my DexNav picks up a Taillow that isn't actually in the area, which I think I can safely say is a glitch. As for a probable cause, if I take the elevator up to Mauville Hills and go onto the balcony of Apartment 13, there is a Taillow there, and the view from the balcony suggests that the Taillow is directly above the spot in the square where my DexNav is picking it up.
[http://oi59.tinypic.com/30rtdw6.jpg 1]
[http://oi58.tinypic.com/dvjb6x.jpg 2]
[http://oi62.tinypic.com/oiamvn.jpg 3]
-- [[User:Umbee|Umbee]] ([[User talk:Umbee|talk]]) 05:50, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
:Like you say, though, it ''is'' there, just not visible. A similar sort of thing actually happens on Mauville's roof with a Taillow on a tower in the east. They're both detected for basically the same reason. I think (in the square on 1F) it's confusing to the player and probably shouldn't behave like that, but I don't think I'd call it a glitch or bug, personally; just bad design/a missed edge case (or it wasn't a high priority to "fix"). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 06:08, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

::The area was made as a three-dimensional environment, even if certain parts of it can only be accessed, it is still programmed and treated as the same area no matter where you are. Think about playing an other game like Halo or something, you jump down and are on a new floor, but you are in the same stage so even if you can't reach certain areas, that doesn't mean they're not still part of the stage. not sure if that is a good way of explaining it or not. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 15:22, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
:::Yeah, Chikasaurus [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zog1ksXXFbo made a video] about this. It's the Taillow on the balcony, so I certainly don't think it counts as a glitch, and is exactly how I would expect it to behave. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:20, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Talk:List of glitches in Generation VI

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== Sky Trainers ==

This isn't really a glitch, the player can't speak with them because they're too far away, and when the player steps into the area, they're not programmed to do anything if the player's already fought them. Like the previous rebattling trainers, {{tc|Pokémon Breeder}} in [[Pokémon Black and White Versions 2#Gameplay changes|Black 2 and White 2]]. -[[User:IVsaur|EVsandIVsaurs]] 12:18, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

You can't rematch Sky Trainers, though, and Pokémon Breeders could be spoken to after battles. It seems odd that you addressed it as "it always happens", because it clearly doesn't. [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 12:26, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

You can't? I thought I had done that before.... -[[User:IVsaur|EVsandIVsaurs]] 12:56, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

:You can talk to them after you have fought them. However, you need to leave the area and come back later to do so, which is different when compared to other trainers. (Making sure the game is patched to 1.1 may help as well.) --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 23:47, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

== Mystery Egg ==
We should probably mention its effects, shouldn't we?--[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 01:50, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
:I don't think anyone actually knows of any as of yet. [[User:OwnageMuch|OwnageMuch]] ([[User talk:OwnageMuch|talk]]) 21:49, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
::It is known that Mystery Eggs can duplicate after an unspecified amount of time and take up space in the PC Boxes, eventually rendering them unusable. Sort of like the Bad Eggs of previous gens. --[[User talk:Relicant|The]] [[Special:Contributions/Relicant|Truth]] aka Relicant 22:12, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
::: Okay, wasn't it confirmed that the Mystery Egg glitch was happening to ''one guy'' because of a hardware issue, not anything to do with the game's coding? In that case, I don't think it qualifies for Bulbapedia coverage any more than Pokemon X Special Headless Edition does. Unless there's actual reports of other players with this problem who probably don't have the same hardware issues, in which case, please link me to them. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 22:47, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
:::People have been receiving them off Wonder Trade, and some have had them pop up in their boxes randomly. It's not "just one guy". --[[User talk:Relicant|The]] [[Special:Contributions/Relicant|Truth]] aka Relicant 23:00, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
:::: I say again, give me a link to actual proof. I don't want to go by hearsay, because hearsay is what started the whole "bad eggs on WT because people started hacking" fiasco despite hacking being quite impossible at this point. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 01:00, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
:::::I don't think anyone actually has gotten Bad Eggs from Wonder Trade. To my knowledge, people (who didn't get them) just speculated that was where they came from. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 03:24, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
Well, I found [http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/60943/t1911857-mystery-eggs/ two] other people who got them, though the thread quickly devolves into "they're from wonder trade because hacks!" nonsense. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 15:15, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
:I've heard that it may have something to do with the SD card. Bishopped (the guy with the video) said that the eggs remained in his game even when he made a new save too.--[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 06:05, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
::They will duplicate in every box, and if all boxes are filled, they will replace your team. [[User:BlueJolteon|BlueJolteon]] ([[User talk:BlueJolteon|talk]]) 10:15, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
:::Well I have tried and succeeded in viewing game data from the cartridge, and seeing that even being able to get into the game's code is semi-easy, you could easily recreate your boxes and whatnot. I've watched people copy pokemon by using the sd card. I don't understand most of the code within the data, but all of your pc information is stored in your sd. I saw a guy deposited a pokemon on the gts and he re-wrote his sd card to have its previous data, he was able to "go back in time" and withdraw a pokemon from te gts but it wasalso in it's pc. And if the gts is still on the same lines as the previous one, who says that no one got a hacked egg from the gts and somehow spread it? Not very much proof, but theories and other occurrences is what I'm relying on. [[User:Kiko2558|Kiko2558]] ([[User talk:Kiko2558|talk]]) 06:42, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
::::That's a pretty wild claim, Kiko. I don't suppose you could supply some proof that you've gotten into the game's code? From what I've heard, it's quite far from easy this generation. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 16:31, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
:::::You can still mod your 3DS to get into significant parts of the code. But to the point, the game does store the data on the SD card for the Pokémon. It doesn't make sense to anyone at the moment, so most just copy the whole thing so that they can do the GTS clone trick since the data for the GTS Pokémon isn't stored on the SD card. As for the Mystery Egg issue, we would need video proof that someone can trade it to another cart without using SD cards. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 00:22, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
::::::I'd been under the impression that the game kept track of its most recent save file, so the player couldn't just swap in an earlier one like that. Am I mistaken? Can you provide some proof for this? [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 03:14, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
:::::::[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Sau6iqSsEE This was what I was referring to.] It looks like if this worked, then the 1.2 patch fixed it. A different cloning glitch would is discussed [http://forums.glitchcity.info/index.php?topic=6791.0 on Glitch Laboratories] and [http://projectpokemon.org/forums/showthread.php?34160-Cloning-Pokemon-in-X-Y on Pokemon Project]. A good video of it is [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMTR6bq3A9E located on Youtube.] --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 03:52, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

This glitch might be created by acquiring pokemon by illegitimate means, and the code will terminate all pokemon in the same box as the cheated pokemon. This is just a basic guess made by complete nonsense, so it might not even be close to the reason. You can never too be sure, anyways. [[User:Space1255|Space1255]] ([[User talk:Space1255|talk]]) 13:21, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
: Nnnnnnnnnnnnope. This glitch showed up long before any cheating devices were created. Not to mention that now that cheating ''is'' possible, no one's apparently managed to accidentally stick themselves with a Bad Egg. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 16:37, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

I just encountered this glitch, and since I didn't acquire any Pokemon via hacking or any other illegitimate means, I can safely say that it has nothing to do with illegitimate Pokemon. I don't know how I got it (nor how to show proof of it, I'm kind of a noob to this Bulbapedia thing), but I am working on seeing all of its effects. [[User:Andy_314|Andy_314]] ([[User talk:Andy_314|talk]]) 01:54, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
: Well, just showing proof that it happened would be a good start. Take a photo of your 3ds's screen (I'm assuming you don't have a capture card :P) and upload it on Imgur or Imageshack or wherever. And if you do figure out anything else, do tell. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 03:38, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
::I think a good step is figuring out what happens when it hatches. Yes, it will freeze and screw up your game, that's a given.
::Y'know, I don't feel so bad about using a Power Saves any longer; I can borrow someone, trade a bad Egg (X) out, then trade it into the backup cart. (Y) and crush it with a save overwrite for the backup cart. Victory for the player. Haven't seen any ill effects of overwriting newer saves with older backed-up ones yet. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 05:01, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
:::I think the first mystery eggs guy confirmed that they take forever to hatch. I'm not sure if he ever actually got one to hatch; it might not even be possible. Regarding Powersaves, that does sound like a good way to get rid of the eggs (sounds like getting rid of bad eggs by reversing the Emerald cloning glitch), but it won't address whatever the underlying problem is that causes the eggs to appear in the first place. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 18:05, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
::::It does, however, accomplish the short-term goal of creating an omelette out of it. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 18:11, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
Okay, I took your advice and have a picture for you: [http://oi57.tinypic.com/m79jcm.jpg] (I still don't know how to make a link actually look like a URL, but it's there and works). The egg hasn't had any real ill effects on my game; it hasn't multiplied, hasn't glitched anything, it has only caused a minor inconvenience of taking up a slot in my PC. I'm currently trying to hatch it, I'll keep you all posted! [[User:Andy_314|Andy_314]] ([[User talk:Andy_314|talk]]) 15:35, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

The whole cause is just a flipped bit in the Pokemon's data. When a checksum is bad, it'll show up as a bad egg. The default data is essentially all zeroes with the name "Egg" (localized to the language) and includes your Country/(3DS)Region/Language, thus is why the 0/0/2000 date appears (the value of 00 00...). — [[User:Kaphotics|Kaphotics]] ([[User talk:Kaphotics|talk]]) 07:16, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

== Wonder Trade evolution movelearning glitch ==

I don't think the description up now is quite right- I received a Phantump over Wonder Trade which, of course, evolved, and in doing so learned a few new moves (it was at level 1, so all its starting moves). Rather than both moves vanishing, the old moves just weren't replaced. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 01:27, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
:I'm pretty sure that the description meant that when a Wonder Traded Pokémon learns a new move that replaces the old move, they both disappear, rather than slots being filled. -- [[User:Pringles|Pringles]] 23:23, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
::The Phantump I received had all four moveslots filled up already (egg moves, I guess), if that's what you mean. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 23:37, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

== Pumpkaboo Hp problem ==
Whilst training pumpkaboo with the exp.share, I viewed my party and noticed that pumpkaboo - which was never used once in battle - mysteriously had 1 less Hp than maximum. No clue why or how. [[User:CraftyWeavile|CraftyWeavile]] ([[User talk:CraftyWeavile|talk]]) 22:49, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

Maybe it got EVs? --[[User:Flametix|Flametix]] ([[User talk:Flametix|talk]]) 22:48, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
:I think it gained an HP point through EV training. Because you weren't at the Pokémon Centre since that happened, it looks like Pumpkaboo wasn't getting maximum HP. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 18:13, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
::Doesn't gaining HP through EV training also "heal" you by the same amount? [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 21:26, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
:::Maybe that's the problem with Pumpkaboo. It doesn't "heal" that 1 HP. If so, that should be easy to test; keep it in the field and monitor it against an Audino Safari. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 21:46, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
:::: The problem may not lie with the species, though. Unfortunately, since this was from nearly a year ago now, I doubt CraftyWeavile will be able to recall any specifics that could lead us to the source either of the glitch or the damage (they might have well put Pumpkaboo into battle at some point and forgot they did it). [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 23:36, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

== Friend Safari Menu Glitch ==
When on Friend Safari, while being online with the other player, I met a Butterfree, Beautifly and Vivillion (3rd slot). But after coming out the menu displaying for that certain Safari did not display Vivillion but the Pokéball sign remained. I went back in and confirmed that Vivillion was in fact there. But when I came back out again no Vivillion was still displayed.--[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] ([[User talk:Wowy|talk]]) 23:36, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
:The Vivillon icon glitch used to be here but some believe it to be intentional. Though in my opinion it's quite clearly not, at the very least don't add that back on the page until there's a consensus supporting its readdition. '''Soulweaver''' (U.S.) ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 00:02, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
::Vivillon does show up properly in my Safari listing where it exists. I believe this to be a glitch and consent to its readdition. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 18:14, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

==Daycare Sign glitch==
I've run by just about every sign that's the same type as the Daycare's with no glitches; the two in front of Connecting Cave's entrances don't turn your head until you're directly in front of them, though. The only sign I know I haven't checked is the one in front of the monument in Geosenge. Also, the sign at the beginning of Santalune Forest doesn't cause the head turn, but it's a different kind of sign. [[User:Glik|Glik]] ([[User talk:Glik|talk]]) 02:35, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
:Well, I just went to the Friend Safari, the Battle Chateau, and the Connecting Cave signs and got a reaction from the four, but still nothing for the Day Care. I will note that if your a step away from being infront of the sign, your head will turn towards the sign just a bit. (As for the Trainer Tip signs, they act a bit weird in that the player will only face the closest part of the sign, but I still get a reaction.) --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 06:00, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
:Guessing this sign is similar to route signs which have the same behavior. Your head won't turn towards a route sign, but they still display text. I could spend the rest of the day going through all the signs in the game, but I'm sure there's quite a few signs that share the same behavior as the Day Care sign. [[User:Rcmaehl|Rcmaehl]] ([[User talk:Rcmaehl|talk]]) 14:59, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
::Well, the problem is that it isn't designed as a route sign. It is designed as a notable location sign. Yet, this is the only sign of its design that I have seen in the game that does not act as it should. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 03:16, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

==Possible Damage Glitch==
As I was doing a triple battle at restaurant le yeah, I had a lv 100 charizard, 52 typhlosion, and 46 swampert. My charizard mega evolves and uses solar beam on a level 31 sigiylf, no problem there. My fully special attack ev trained lv 52 typhlosion uses an eruption and gets a crit on swampert, does half health, still sort of normal. Then my swampert, who has almost no ev training at all, uses earthquake on my typhlosion, super effective, critical hit, does only half health. (Also, I just left out the mantine and Emolga since they used protect or something). No video proof, it only happened once. {{unsigned|Kiko2558}}

FLAMETIX:
Maybe the Swampert had an Attack lowering nature.

Also, here's damage calculations from Showdown's damage calculator:
0- Atk Swampert Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 252+ Def Typhlosion on a critical hit: 74-90 (46.5 - 56.6%) -- 69.9% chance to 2HKO

Lowest attack possible with the Typhlosion being EVd in Defense results in a 2HKO.

0- Atk Swampert Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0+ Def Typhlosion on a critical hit: 98-116 (51 - 60.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

EV'd in HP.

Triple battles and doubles lower the power of multi target moves, and both things point to doing a 2HKO.

It depends on the Swampert's stats: if it's not a -Attack or it has high IVs, it can change. --[[User:Flametix|Flametix]] ([[User talk:Flametix|talk]]) 22:56, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

== Move overwriting glitch ==

This seems like intentional behavior to me. Either they simply let the Pokémon use the move that it no longer knows, or it lets the Pokémon use the new move, which could cause problems. For example, if you select a move that hits multiple targets, and then replace it with a move that has only a single target before the move is made, then what? The only other alternative is to force the Pokémon to make no move at all.

So, this doesn't really seem like a glitch to me. Interested to hear what you think. --[[User:Dada|Dada]] ([[User talk:Dada|talk]]) 14:38, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
:Dunno. In Generation III at least, the new move is used. [[User:Eridanus|Eridanus]] ([[User talk:Eridanus|talk]]) 16:18, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

== Memory girl glitch ==

Having defeated a few of the battle chatelaines - with Xerneas sitting out in my party during the battles - I checked its "memories" in Anistar city, and found that "Xerneas battled at <name>'s side and defeated a battle chatelaine." [[User:CraftyWeavile|CraftyWeavile]] ([[User talk:CraftyWeavile|talk]]) 03:24, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

== Super Training forme glitch ==

I'm thinking of adding this to the page, but does anyone want to confirm it first?

If the [[Super Training]] screen is visible while certain Pokémon change [[forme]], it will show the Pokemon in their previous forme instead of their current one. The Pokémon will be shown in its proper forme after switching to a different screen (even the Super Training Regimen screen) and back. This happens with {{p|Burmy}} (whose form changes automatically after a battle) and {{p|Rotom}} (whose form can be changed using the boxed appliances in Sycamore's lab), and possibly others ({{p|Shaymin}}?).

--''[[User:Stratelier|Stratelier]]'' 19:30, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

:I tested this with {{p|Rotom}} and it didn't show his changed forme until I went into the Regimen screen so that does work! But I tried with {{p|Shaymin}} and {{p|Kyurem}} and it didn't work, I believe their forme has to be changed without re-loading the screen for it to work. Since the {{key|IV|Gracidea}} and {{key|V|DNA Splicers}} cannot be registered you have to go into your bag which will re-load their sprites in the [[Super Training]]. --[[User:DanceMan|DanceMan]] 20:13, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

== PSS standby glitch ==

This has to be the #1 most obvious glitch I've personally encountered in XY, and I've heard anectodal tales of other people having the same issue:

If the player is connected to the Internet via PSS, suspending the game software by any means (e.g: closing the 3DS lid, or pressing the HOME button) will trigger a "communication error" message (e.g. code 003-4099) immediately upon returning to the game. This does not happen when using the GTS (where the HOME button is disabled).

--''[[User:Stratelier|Stratelier]]'' 20:53, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
:This hardly seems like a glitch to me. It makes sense that putting the game on standby would disconnect it from the most energy consuming part of the game, connecting to the Internet. ☆[[User:Solar Dragon|The]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|Solar]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|Dragon]]☆ 20:56, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
:: The 3DS generally disconnects from the internet when closed. This happens if you have the browser open, too, though that just reconnects without any message. I believe this happened on the DS as well. So no, not a glitch, just a normal (3)DS function. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 02:00, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

::I can confirm what Yamiidenryuu said, this is not a glitch the 3DS is functioning as intended.[[User:Rcmaehl|Rcmaehl]] ([[User talk:Rcmaehl|talk]]) 06:59, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

==Sylveon==
Not sure if it's a glitch or not, but thought I might mention it here. I've had this happen to me before and others have also seen it too, but a Sylveon which evolved from a non-Kalos native Eevee doesn't register on the Pokédex. It seems the game doesn't recognise non-native Kalos Pokémon, which could possibly be on purpose.--[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] ([[User talk:Wowy|talk]]) 02:31, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
:I'm not sure about it "not recognizing" non native Kalos Pokémon, since everything I've ever obtained in my Gen VI game that came from an older game still registers, but the symbol for it being "caught" on the Pokédex is a Pokéball instead of the Kalos symbol (it's been known that this happens if the only Pokémon you've ever gotten of that species have been from non Gen VI games), but regardless, they still do register. So a Sylveon not showing up as caught seems to be a bug, probably (and this is only a guess, mind you) that the {{tt|69|70-72?}} Gen VI Pokémon are set to never have that symbol in the Pokédex next to their name, which also shows up from evolutions. For example:
:*Getting a non-Kalos native Eevee (without ever having obtained an Eevee otherwise) would give you the Pokéball symbol, evolving it into any of the older Eeveelutions would give that Pokémon the same symbol in the Dex.
:*Getting that same Eevee, but evolving it into a Sylveon should ''logically'' give the Sylveon the Pokéball symbol, but the game's Pokédex is probably programmed to not do this for any Pokémon introduced in Gen VI, which Sylveon was.
:Regardless, I'd say this is in fact an oversight/glitch, not something intentional on Nintendo's part. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy (瀬藤健二)]] ([[User talk:Schiffy|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|Contribs]]) 03:18,2/20/2014 (UTC)
::"Getting that same Eevee, but evolving it into a Sylveon should ''logically'' give the Sylveon the Pokéball symbol, but the game's Pokédex is probably programmed to not do this for any Pokémon introduced in Gen VI, which Sylveon was" is what I meant when I said that the game doesn't seem to recognise non-native Kalos Pokémon. Sorry if that wasn't very obvious what I meant earlier.
::In any case, should it be added to this page?--[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] ([[User talk:Wowy|talk]]) 03:22, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
:::Ah, my mistake. I see what you were saying. Anyway, since it seems pretty clear that this was some form of oversight, I don't really see why not. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy (瀬藤健二)]] ([[User talk:Schiffy|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|Contribs]]) 03:28,2/20/2014 (UTC)

== Pokémon-Amie Glitch not a glitch ==

I do not think that is a glitch, I think that is just how new Pokemon are until they are fed. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 23:33, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
: I doubt it. If the intent was to imply the trainer gets better at reading a Pokemon's emotions as they got to know each other, or that the Pokemon grew to be more open with the trainer, I'd expect it to last at least until an actual affection levelup, not just until the tiniest bit of affection is earned. And it doesn't change the fact that a Pokemon in this condition will ''like'' being petted in its disliked spot, which doesn't make sense at all. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 01:53, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

The 'disliked spot' in most Pokemon are spots that they know can harm their trainers, eg. Espurr's ears, Honedge's cloth. They prefer to let their trainers pat them in those spots due to the fact they have no sentimental value to the trainer, as they have 0 affection until they are fed, which they then gain 1. Basically, with no affection, the Pokemon doesn't care whether their trainers get harmed or not. The Pokemon-amie reaction glitch is not a glitch, else it would have already been patched. [[User:EnderoftheEnd|EnderoftheEnd]] ([[User talk:EnderoftheEnd|talk]]) 06:51, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
: ... There's a buttload of exceedingly minor glitches in these games that have yet to be patched, as evidenced by this very page. Nintendo has no real reason to care about anything this vanishingly insignificant, compared to something that completely ruins the game like the Lumiose save glitch. That doesn't prove it's deliberate.

:Also, even if that was the case, I don't think all of one point of affection out of the hundreds of points you max out at would be enough to make a Pokemon care deeply about you. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 14:27, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
::It makes sense why Beedrill hates being petted on its stingers, then. However, Pikachu hating being petted on its stomach makes zero sense. I agree with Yamiidenryuu, one point out of all those points for max affection doesn't make sense for it to suddenly care for its trainer. Purely visual glitches are usually not patched, unless it makes the game unplayable (e.g. making all NPCs invisible or something). [[User:Pikachu Bros.|Pikachu Bros.]] ([[User talk:Pikachu Bros.|talk]]) 14:45, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
:::Well, think of it this way...when you are at a petting zoo, those animals are petted all day. They could care less if a new child comes up and starts petting them. Now if a kid shows up with those pellets, that there is a game changer. The animal will act special towards that kid, hoping for more food. its like "Oh you are so awesome, please pet me, don't mind me while I nibble those pellets out of your hand." then when another kid shows up without food its like "Hey kid unless you got some peanuts in your pocket backoff until I am done with this awesome guy here who I totally like not because he is feeding me pellets but because he is awesome."
:::lol but seriously, any animal will be more (genuinely) affectionate towards you after giving them food. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 01:09, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
:::: Feeding isn't the only way to get that first affection point. You can open Amie, close it for a bit and open it again; after that you can get like one heart by petting the Pokemon, and the glitch will stop taking effect. I expect you can do the same by playing a game with the Pokemon, allowing you to get more hearts by petting. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 15:48, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

== Back-to-Back WonderTrade System Date/Time Save Glitch ==

If you select WonderTrade, the game saves and then takes you to the WonderTrade interface. Once your trade is completed, or you exit out without trading, you are taken back to the PSS interfect. From there, if you select WonderTrade again, the time and saved will be the same time and date saved from the first interaction. This will continue until the PSS Menu Interface is exited out.

So for instance, If I was trying to get a WonderTradeWednesday Pokémon from @BulbaTrade, If I saved at 2/26/2014 at 18:39, If I select WonderTrade again, it will continue saving 2/26/2014 at 18:39 no mater how much time has passed. Only the Time and date retrieved from the system seems effected by this glitch. The Player's Time they've played the game will continue to move forward. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 23:47, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
: This happens if you use the GTS as well, so it seems like it's a problem with the PSS menu rather than Wonder Trade. Incidentally, I could swear this glitch didn't occur before the 1.2 patch, but I don't think there's any way to test that anymore... [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 01:53, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
::I believe it is as well. You can remove your SD card to check, since the patch is on there and not the game itself. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 02:26, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
::: I know that, but without the upgrades, you can't get online. I'll try it later, but I'm not sure I'll even be able to get to the right parts of the menu. ._. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 14:56, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
::: Ha ha nope, couldn't even load the game. Got a message about the SD card not being recognised. I think there's a way around that, but for now I'm stuck. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 21:48, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
:::: I guess until its able to be researched, we can add the glitch under All versions? [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 22:12, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
:::::This appears to also happen with the battle maison.[[User:CraftyWeavile|CraftyWeavile]] ([[User talk:CraftyWeavile|talk]]) 05:22, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
How does this happen with the Battle Maison, and you describe it? [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 07:02, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
:*Can you describe it?* typo. Anyways I seems to be unable to repeat it properly so can you describe the process in which this occurs? [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 23:37, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
I think a while back, someone asked if the Pokedex count was affected or not (though apparently not here?), and I can confirm that it updates correctly- receiving a Pokemon I didn't already have over Wondertrade changed my dex count from 666 (hah) to 667, as it should. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 02:33, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

== Holocaster Stereo Camera Glitch? ==

I am not sure about the 3DS, since I have a 2DS...but when I go to the Holocaster's menu and select the '''Check Announcements''' option, the front stereo cameras activate. Is this a glitch, or a feature meant for something further down the line like QR code recognition or whatever? [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 02:11, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
: I don't know about the 2DS, but on the 3DS it shows whatever the cameras capture behind the announcer lady, in 3D. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 21:47, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

== Glittering Cave Glitch ==

I don't think anyone has noticed this, but in the room where you meet Team Flare for the first time, there is a graphical glitch. First, break open the rock in the top right corner of the room. Then, take a step forward. You should notice that your hat/head goes through the wall. [[User:PixelMuffin|PixelMuffin]] ([[User talk:PixelMuffin|talk]]) 16:18, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
:Added. Should check Terminus Caves and the like to see if there's any more. [[User:Glik|Glik]] ([[User talk:Glik|talk]]) 16:42, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

:Shall do, while I have the time. Meanwhile, though, I can tell you that nothing like this occurs in Reflection cave, or the rest of Glittering cave. [[User:PixelMuffin|PixelMuffin]] ([[User talk:PixelMuffin|talk]]) 21:29, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

:Ok, so I've checked all of the caves now, and I can assure you that this happens in none of the other caves, not even the little ones like Unknown Dungeon. Have a nice day, guys. [[User:PixelMuffin|PixelMuffin]] ([[User talk:PixelMuffin|talk]]) 21:29, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

::I've noticed that a few of the trees on the south end of route 14 tend to look as if they have pierced the player's hat thoroughly.[[User:CraftyWeavile|CraftyWeavile]] ([[User talk:CraftyWeavile|talk]]) 05:17, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

::: There seems to be a good handful of problems with model collision in general. Mawile's extra mouth will clip through the floor when it turns to you in battle, Talonflame's wing clips through its own body right at the base... [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 18:03, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

:::: Oh yeah, I've noticed this too. I remember one time I used False Swipe on an Onix in Glittering cave, and half it went through the wall! [[User:PixelMuffin|PixelMuffin]] ([[User talk:PixelMuffin|talk]]) 21:29, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
:::::If clipping issues are that prevalent, perhaps a sub page could be made? I haven't noticed any, but I'm terrible at small details if I'm not consciously searching for them. [[User:Glik|glik]][[User talk:Glik|glak]] 01:15, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
:::::: I don't think it needs its own subpage, since it's a relatively minor glitch that just has lots of examples. A general subsection would probably be best. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 16:24, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
::::::: I've noticed that this glitch has been taken off the page? Was there a problem in terms of being genuine? If that's the right word? [[User:PixelMuffin|PixelMuffin]] ([[User talk:PixelMuffin|talk]]) 20:10, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
The reasoning given for its removal that that it was a "sprite error" rather than a glitch. I'm not sure I agree with that, really. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 19:19, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
: I'm not sure I agree with that either, but I can see where they were coming from. Thanks for telling me. [[User:PixelMuffin|Do you know...The Muffin Man?]] ([[User talk:PixelMuffin|talk]]) 15:51, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
:: Does anyone mind if I can add this glitch back to the page? ([[User:PixelMuffin|Do you know...The Muffin Man?]] ([[User talk:PixelMuffin|talk]]) 17:53, 30 August 2014 (UTC))

== Flabebe with Floette's cry ==

Suprised this hasn't been added yet, but in the Battle Chateau, Baroness Francine's Flabebe has a Floette's cry.----[[User:BigBadBatter|Big]][[User talk:BigBadBatter|Bad]][[User:BigBadBatter|Batter]] 21:44, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

==Level disappearing==

When more than one of my team was KO'd in the same turn in doubles/triples, after having chosen one replacement and going for my second selection, I noticed that the replacement's level # was missing. Have found that it returns if I go as far as the summary/check moves screens of any pokemon in the team. [[User:CraftyWeavile|CraftyWeavile]] ([[User talk:CraftyWeavile|talk]]) 03:39, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

== Pokedex glitch ==

Ok, so this glitch isn't something that happened to me, but something I saw on the net a week back. Apparently, if you complete any of the pokedexes with a Pokémon that isn't Kalos-native (Basically, a Pokémon from Gen V), then the game doesn't recognize it, and marks the Pokedex as incomplete. I can find a link to the page, if that'll help (Since I don't make much sense) [[User:PixelMuffin|PixelMuffin]] ([[User talk:PixelMuffin|talk]]) 21:29, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Decided to add a link, so people can understand what I mean better- http://motoringcrunch.com/news/pokemon-x-y-kalos-pokedex-ending-with-a-stray-pre-gen-entry-has-these-consequences/10011335/
[[User:PixelMuffin|PixelMuffin]] ([[User talk:PixelMuffin|talk]]) 16:01, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
: That could be deliberate. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 20:08, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

==Head-Turning Glitch==
Outside Lumiose Station, I've noticed that the player's head turns to examine the entrance of the station rather than the sign. When walking past the sign, the player will still be able to read the sign without facing it.[[User:CraftyWeavile|CraftyWeavile]] ([[User talk:CraftyWeavile|talk]]) 03:09, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
:That's because your head turns to look inside any building. The station is one of the few that actually has signs, and likely this is to not to require players to face the sign manually [[User:Pikachu Bros.|Pikachu Bros.]] ([[User talk:Pikachu Bros.|talk]]) 20:04, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

== Pokemon Center Point of View Glitch ==

This need further testing and documentation, but I have noticed that if you enter a Pokemon Center while riding a bike or roller skating and immediately walk up to the front desk and talk to Nurse Joy to heal your Pokemon, the point of view during the conversation and subsequent healing of your Pokemon is zoomed in a couple different ways. It immediately returns to normal afterwards, but this doesn't seem normal. Has anyone else ever run across this...?

I have Pokemon Y by the way. --[[User:Ulithium Dragon|Ulithium Dragon]] ([[User talk:Ulithium Dragon|talk]]) 15:23, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
:Happens randomly even if you don't go directly to the desk or without using either of those items, and it's pretty clearly an intentional effect to spice up the visits to the center a bit, not a glitch. '''[[User:Soulweaver|Soulweaver]]''' ([[User talk:Soulweaver|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Soulweaver|edits]]) 15:52, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

== Birthday music glitch ==

As this was in need of more info: I had my bday in November and as I always (it's a habit) save inside the Pokémon Center, I loaded the game on my bday and there were no effects or music. Had to leave and re-enter to get the effects and the music. This should be confirmed by someone else to be absolutely sure.

--{{unsigned|MasterErnst}}
:It's far from a glitch; it's like how the seasons don't change in BW until you enter and exit a house, if you saved outside before the month was over: the event doesn't trigger without a location "reset". In the same vein, the birthday music will last after your birthday is over if you save inside the Pokécenter and never leave. [[User:ArcToraphim|Kai]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 20:26, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

== Geosenge sitting stone glitch ==

So there are many stones in Geosenge where you can sit. Well the stone second closes to the Pokémon center has a weird glitch. Whenever you sit on it from the front, the player character twists to the left. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 05:05, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
:Should I add this to the article? [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 04:05, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
::That's just what chairs do, not a glitch. Just look in the hotel. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 06:17, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

== front gates of Parfum Palace ==

So I don't know how I triggered this glitch, but I've done it twice, once in X and once in Y. Unfortunately, trying to [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9_IEqHWi0k record it the second time] failed, and worse yet, the graphics reset when I attempted to do it again, so I can't properly show off the gates, but you get an idea of what happens during the glare: the gates are shown as open, but the animation of them opening works as if the gates were closed, so the gates jump from being wide open to closed-and-opening.

Nothing I've done so far seems to work in triggering the gates to be opened preemptively, so it might have to do with the items I collected while training on route 6. That's my best guess, since I can't repeat that. [[User:ArcToraphim|Kai]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 16:10, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

== Save before PSS ==

I don't know if this should actually be called a "glitch," but the option (in the options menu) to disable forced saving before using PSS features is broken. It doesn't make a difference whether it is on or off, you are forced to save either way. It makes Wonder Trading a real pain.
[[User:Efureie|Efureie]] ([[User talk:Efureie|talk]]) 23:45, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
: It does actually disable forced saving on some features, though. I think connecting to the internet without trying to trade is affected, if I remember correctly... And forced saves before trading is kind of a necessary feature to prevent things like cloning or Pokemon getting deleted, so I imagine that not being disabled is deliberate. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 00:28, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

== Drasna Aura Sphere glitch ==

Can I request the removal of this glitch? I went to battle Drasna to verify this glitch, and can verify that this may not be a glitch after all- The black lines that are seen are actually part of the scenary. You know the two pillars that are next to you when you battle? That's one of them. I know I probably don't make a whole lot of sense, but if you see for yourself, then it'll make a lot more sense. [[User:PixelMuffin|Do you know...The Muffin Man?]] ([[User talk:PixelMuffin|talk]]) 15:51, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
:I tested it for myself, and have concluded that it actually is a glitch. The pillars are in the background, while the black bar appears in the foreground and partially covers Drasna's Pokémon. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zj3OPED2fuY See for yourself.] -- [[User:Umbee|Umbee]] ([[User talk:Umbee|talk]]) 00:52, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
::It's really hard to notice because it only happens for 3 seconds at most, but if you look ''really'' closely you can see the black lines really do make up a fence, like the ones surrounding the pillars. I think the real glitch here is not the black lines, but the fact that the camera doesn't exactly act as it should (Not that I'm making any sense XD) ([[User:PixelMuffin|Do you know...The Muffin Man?]] ([[User talk:PixelMuffin|talk]]) 14:56, 29 August 2014 (UTC))
:::I think we can conclude that there's definitely a glitch going on here, but my low-quality video alone isn't going to tell us what the exact cause is. It's probably worth noting, though, that I've heard claims of the black lines appearing elsewhere on the screen when used on Drasna's other Pokémon. -- [[User:Umbee|Umbee]] ([[User talk:Umbee|talk]]) 19:16, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
::::Haven't heard about that, will make sure to check that out when I get time. Thanks for telling me :) ([[User:PixelMuffin|Do you know...The Muffin Man?]] ([[User talk:PixelMuffin|talk]]) 20:48, 2 September 2014 (UTC))
:::::I have tested it, too! It '''''is''''' actually a glitch, because as the article says, it may be a glitch in the VFX algorithm. I have confirmed it using Mewtwo's Aura Sphere and the black lines are ''way'' to big! --[[User:PokémonXXXPlayer|PokémonXXXPlayer]] ([[User talk:PokémonXXXPlayer|talk]]) 08:11, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
:::::: The VFX algorithm? Do you mind sending me a link to this article? I've never heard of that before. Also, if you use Aura sphere against Dragalge (I forget what it's called XD) you really can make out a fence shape. Those black lines are big though (not sure what that proves but heyho) ([[User:PixelMuffin|Do you know...The Muffin Man?]] ([[User talk:PixelMuffin|talk]]) 08:56, 3 September 2014 (UTC))
:::::::Here is what I see. At the beginning of the fifteenth second in the video, we see Drasna's Pokémon take the hit from Aura Sphere. Aura Sphere is programmed in such a way as to cause the field to temporary appear to be yellow with no details. At the middle of the fifteenth second, after the Aura Sphere object has made contact, Drasna's Pokémon is mostly done recoiling from the attack when most of its model is suddenly covered obscured by yellow. The only available details at this moment is the head, part of the left wing, the left leg which is slightly faded, and the tail which is also faded. Towards the end of the fifteenth second, the yellow field returns to the normal field, which now shows the fence that covers the rightmost incense emitter is now in the foreground, while the battle is the background. Thus, the camera angle for Aura Sphere causes an issue with the field, but it is only after Aura Sphere hits since the animation of Aura Sphere ignores the fence until that point. I would like to note that there either the field for Drasna's Chamber is different from the other fields for the Elite Four or that no one has checked to see if the other fields cause this same issue. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 21:03, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
: I didn't test exhaustively, but I didn't get any of the other E4 fields to glitch out with Aura Sphere. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 22:21, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
:: Then the fields for the other chambers must be different since Aura Sphere causes the camera angle to be set a fixed distance away. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 05:46, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

== Bike Music glitch ==

The bike music glitch that has appeared in previous generations- The one where the bike music will play again when you save the game in a city and then reset, even when the city theme is playing- also appears in X and Y. I tested it in boredom. [[User:PixelMuffin|Do you know...The Muffin Man?]] ([[User talk:PixelMuffin|talk]]) 17:28, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

== Fainted Pokemon Evolving ==

This is a beneficial glitch, but a glitch nonetheless. When a Pokémon gains a level and then faints in battle, if it was at a high enough level to evolve, it will after battle.
For example, I was trying to evolve a Spewpa into Vivillon. I battled a trainer who had two Pokeémon. I had the Exp. Share on. I defeated the trainer's first Pokémon, and Spewpa gained a level. It was now at a high enough level to evolve. On the trainer's second Pokémon, I accidentally used U-Turn and had to switch Pokémon. I switched out Spewpa. Spewpa fainted. I switched back to my original Pokémon and defeated the trainer. To my surprise, Spewpa evolved into Vivillon. It's interesting to note that it wasn't revived after evolving.
[[User:Efureie|Efureie]] ([[User talk:Efureie|talk]]) 12:48, 13 May 2014 (UTC)
: I know that's supposed to happen in at least some games, so it very well might be by design rather than an error. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 13:52, 13 May 2014 (UTC)
::I don't know if I consider this a glitch. It met the requirements to evolve. So, if it reaches Lv.100 while in a pre-evo (trainer's choice) and then faints, it can never evolve? I think it's allowed to happen as a safety measure more than anything. [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 15:11, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

== Graphics cache flushing oversight (An image overlap) ==

As the list says this needs talking about. I found a trigger: after being in a 3D area with the 3D on, enter a 2D area (or at least when the 3D light turns off) turn off the 3D. Then go into a 3D area where a field move can be used, as you use the field move the screen temporarily flashes white, quickly turn on the 3D and the last screen you had 3D on will overlap the Pokemon using the field move. But I still have no idea why this happens.--{{unsigned|DanceMan}}

== weird can't walk glitch ==

Ok, so every now and then, I run into a glitch where I come out of a menus, then I try to walk by a NPC through a path that goes through a spot the NPC was just at, and the character acts like the NPC is still there. Has anyone else run into this? [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 01:47, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

== O-Power and Super Training Visual Glitches ==

Just had this happen earlier today: http://p.twpl.jp/show/orig/xdyUC

It's mostly a visual glitch. If I touched the bottom "speed power" I'd get speed power like usual, but if I touched the top one I'd get attack power. So it seems like just the graphic is wrong. But what's interesting is if I touched that blank spot, nothing would happen. So it's not just the screen not being drawn correctly; the menu itself got corrupted somehow. I'm not sure how. I tried to scroll it with the stylus and it seemed to "stick" for a moment and then this. It stayed like this when I scrolled and when I selected a power and then went back; it only fixed itself when I actually used an O-Power.

A similar thing I've seen is that you can often trigger one thing while another thing is activating. For example touch something on the Pokemon-amie or Super Training screen, then immediately press L/R; you hear the sound as if you touched it and maybe even see it react but then the screen switches. Sometimes I've also pressed a button or walked into something while passing into a loading zone, and it'd start to open a menu or play a sound while fading the screen out. You can see the player character walking around while it fades out too. I haven't found any useful effects from this but I wouldn't be at all surprised if you can cause some interesting glitches by doing these things with precise timing; after all, so many glitches are just the result of "what if I do this and this at the exact same time"?

Not quite related: at one point I noticed what I think is a sprite glitch as well. I had Mightyena on the Super Training screen (beating up a bag) while walking around and I looked down and saw his icon-sprite ([[File:Ani262MS.png]]) right beside the left arrow (that you can touch to switch to Pokemon-amie). I thought maybe it's telling me to check the other pages, so I pressed L a couple times, but nothing seemed unusual, and when I came back to the Super Training screen, the sprite was gone. I don't know if this is something that's supposed to happen? Seemed like a glitch to me since it didn't appear to actually ''do'' anything. [[User:HyperHacker|⬡]] ([[User talk:HyperHacker|talk]]) 07:48, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
:Mightyena was probably hungry: [[Pokémon-Amie#Stats]], end of 5th paragraph. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 12:32, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
:: I've seen that effect on both the O-power and GTS request lists, so I guess the glitch applies to all lists using that same code/setup. I've discovered that you can consistently corrupt the list in a particular way: Scroll down from the very top with just the right speed and one menu entry will appear to turn into another one two (I think what I usually got was Stealth Power replacing PP Restoring Power). Scrolling during the exact frame when one of your O-power circles fills up also screws things up, probably because the game has to refresh the list to see if any more powers are usable.

:: I actually have video of some of this; I'll try and put it on Youtube soon. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 15:59, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

:::I've been trying to recreate this and see if there are any other interesting effects, but it hasn't happened again since. [[User:HyperHacker|⬡]] ([[User talk:HyperHacker|talk]]) 15:18, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

== Idle speculation about some glitches ==

It seems like some of these glitches are, or might be, caused by people putting X and Y on failing SD cards, especially the save corruption glitch and possibly the Mystery Egg glitch. The previous games wouldn't have had these issues. [[User:FSX|FSX]] ([[User talk:FSX|talk]]) 02:13, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
:I know I have my own corrupted save issue on a regular cartridge, so I do not fully believe it is just the SD cards. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 00:25, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

== Heatran GTS Double Post Glitch ==

[[http://www.4shared.com/download/OwTwjOZ3ce/Snapshot_20140815_2.JPG]]

Ok, so sometimes when I go onto the GTS, deposit a Pokémon and then browse the H's, this happens. I am not sure the cause, but it happens every now and then. If I select something, or leave the list in any way, it turns back to normal. I've stumbled across this glitch several times, this is the first time I was able to get photographic evidence of it. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 12:48, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
: This is a known glitch that affects the sort of list used for both the GTS search and the O-powers. If you scroll down from the top with just the right speed, it'll cause an entry in the list to "disguise" itself as another entry. This only affects how the entry looks. There's an entry just a bit above this one about O-power visual glitches that mentions it. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 15:29, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

== Backward sign-reading ==

I have tried this glitch in many occassions, but it is impossible to read a sign while facing away from it in this way.
I would like to see proof that somebody actually is able to do this, as it would open up new possibilities for glitching
in other scenarios. --> I have found a video on youtube showing this does indeed work. Yet I cannot get it to work.
I would say it has to to something with the amount of active memory, as a cause of lag. I will try to confirm this. {{unsigned|Yavga}}
:What is more likely is that you aren't doing things with frame-perfect timing; one likely would need to read the sign in the same frame as turning away from it; the action of reading (which might be lagged from when (A) is pressed) likely needs to be in the same frame as the attempt to move away. I doubt that the number of actors has anything to do with it, but it is possible there is a thread sync error if it does. [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] ([[User talk:TruePikachu|talk]]) 05:15, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
::Was able to reproduce ONCE, can't seem to do it again. I should buy a raspberry pi for this but I don't want to mutilate my 3DS[[User:Rcmaehl|Rcmaehl]] ([[User talk:Rcmaehl|talk]]) 20:28, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

== Possible Recycle Air Balloon Glitch ==

I use Klefki. Whenever I attempt to Recover my air balloon, it fails, but for every other item it works. Hmm... these are troubling times in the kingdom. {{unsigned|HOTFIER!}}

== ORAS PSS Glitch ==

Not sure if anyone else experiences this, but whenever I connect to the internet, the screen freezes on the connecting message, even well after I've connected and people icons are moving and what friends are online show up. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 19:45, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

:Have the same issue but after about 30-60 seconds, everything unfreezes. I'm guessing if you have slower internet than me it'll take longer. [[User:Rcmaehl|Rcmaehl]] ([[User talk:Rcmaehl|talk]]) 20:26, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

::But its only with ORAS, XY acts normally.[[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 20:29, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
:::It is very possible it is exchanging all the new StreetPass data during the delay. I'm pretty sure that ORAS still exchanges the same info that XY does (Amie visitors is all I can think of right now, which would be a very small structure), but it also needs to exchange mirage spot info, trendy phrase info, BuzzFeed info, and secret base layouts and teams. I'd need to intercept the traffic to make any sort of confirmation about that (which is next to impossible because of the encryption), but checking the total amount of data transferred might give a partial confirmation, as well as an idea of just how much more data is being passed. I can't easily check that right now, though, since prominiscient mode on my main system's network adapter seems to have stopped working after a driver update... [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] ([[User talk:TruePikachu|talk]]) 04:51, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

== Glitches with bookcases and Geosenge ==

Whilst messing around in Looker's Bureau just now, I clicked on the side of the bookcase, and the text came up, despite me clicking on it's side. Did it to the two bookcases in the Lumiose Press, and the same thing happened, it's very similar to the café glitch in Black and White, can this be added as I look for more examples of this? Also, I was hatching an egg in Geosenge, and whilst I was cycling around the hole in the middle of the town, I noticed that in the corners (?) of the hole, the front of my bike partially went through it. [[User:PixelMuffin|Do you know...The Muffin Man?]] ([[User talk:PixelMuffin|talk]]) 21:39, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

== Friendship Evolution Glitch ==
Good day, people. I have looked for this issue but I couldn't find any answer. I am currently playing Pokémon Alpha Sapphire in Spanish and my in-game team was bred in an English Pokémon Omega Ruby version (I don't know if this is related). So, I traded my Pokémon using the Pokémon Bank app from [[Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire|Pokémon Omega Ruby to Alpha Sapphire]]. And my {{p|Togepi}} won't evolve by any means!
At first I thought it could be an error in my cartridge, but then I found some cases while I was looking for them in the internet. Here are some: [http://www.gamefaqs.com/3ds/792673-pokemon-omega-ruby/answers/384388-my-eevee-has-full-friendship-but-still-wont-evolve-into Case1] and [http://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/2o7uvi/oras_my_max_friendship_buneary_wont_evolve/ Case2]. If you search correctly, you'll find many others complaining. So, I guess that this is a widespread glitch, however I'd bet some conditions have to be met.
By the way, I also noticed most people don't believe the thread authors. Statiscally people always ask them if the [[Pokémon (species)|Pokémon]] is holding an [[Evolutionary_stone#Everstone|Everstone]]. Because of that I decided to record a [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7SSlc-f1Vg video] so that you can believe me and maybe help me. Note: you should understand some Spanish in order to understand the [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7SSlc-f1Vg video].
I guess this issue may need further research in order to find out what makes this 'glitch' happen. [[User:Diby esp|Gabriel Rocha (Diby esp)]] ([[User talk:Diby esp|talk]]) 21:52, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
:Perhaps the transfer reset its friendship value? Make sure its friendship is high and try again. If it still does not evolve, then return it to the original game (if possible) and see if it evolves there with high friendship. If the evolution fails in the second game, the glitch should be added to the page. [[User:PartHunter|PartHunter]] ([[User talk:PartHunter|talk]]) 12:40, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
::The same thing happened to me today; I got 3 Igglybuff from the GTS in Y, Banked them, and withdrew them in OR (where due to the Blissey Bases, I do most of my levelling and evolving). However, no matter what I did, the Igglybuff wouldn't evolve into Jigglypuff. The Verdanturf friendship checker confirmed that all 3 had 255 happiness ("they couldn't love you more"), and Kelpsy Berries and the like "had no effect". Weirdly enough, though, I managed to evolve a Budew, Chansey, Azurill and Togepi, acquired in similar circumstances, in the last few weeks (up until the 2nd of April, where Xenoblade Chronicles stole my attention). I don't know if this is a fault with ORAS, Bank or any update patches, because I did run into a few other people who had similar problems last December, before update 1.2 or 1.3 (maybe even 1.1?). [[User:PokeMaster99999|PokeMaster99999]] ([[User talk:PokeMaster99999|talk]]) 22:59, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

== Muting Mauville Food Court ==
I accidentally encountered a glitch in Omega Ruby where after entering [[Mauville City#Food Court|Mauville Food Court]] the music was silent, and if I recall correctly so was the sound effect for exiting(?). I unfortunately cannot replicate the glitch. Has anyone else encountered this? [[User:Chickasaurus|Chickasaurus]] ([[User talk:Chickasaurus|talk]]) 20:19, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

== Ferroseed ==

Any notice whe a Ferroseed come s to the battle its buring? --[[User:HoopsterJohn|HoopsterJohn]] ([[User talk:HoopsterJohn|talk]]) 17:28, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

== Surfing Wailmer Glitch ==
There's some speculation that the Surfing Wailmer glitch is caused by the change in surfing models. Has anyone tried triggering the glitch with a Carvanha? That could help confirm or deny that theory. -- [[User:Umbee|Umbee]] ([[User talk:Umbee|talk]]) 16:58, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

I was the one who discovered said glitch, and yes, I also tested it with a Carvanha. It's only Wailmer that does it. [[User:The Dreamer|The Dreamer]] ([[User talk:The Dreamer|talk]]) 17:00, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

:Has anyone else noticed that if a Sharpedo that does not know Surf uses Dive as a field move, the Pokémon being ridden changes to Sharpedo, even upon surfacing? Does this qualify as a glitch? [[User:PartHunter|PartHunter]] ([[User talk:PartHunter|talk]]) 12:44, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

== Mauville City and DexNav Taillow ==
In the lower-right corner of the central area of Mauville City (the part that contains the Pokémon Center), my DexNav picks up a Taillow that isn't actually in the area, which I think I can safely say is a glitch. As for a probable cause, if I take the elevator up to Mauville Hills and go onto the balcony of Apartment 13, there is a Taillow there, and the view from the balcony suggests that the Taillow is directly above the spot in the square where my DexNav is picking it up.
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-- [[User:Umbee|Umbee]] ([[User talk:Umbee|talk]]) 05:50, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
:Like you say, though, it ''is'' there, just not visible. A similar sort of thing actually happens on Mauville's roof with a Taillow on a tower in the east. They're both detected for basically the same reason. I think (in the square on 1F) it's confusing to the player and probably shouldn't behave like that, but I don't think I'd call it a glitch or bug, personally; just bad design/a missed edge case (or it wasn't a high priority to "fix"). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 06:08, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

::The area was made as a three-dimensional environment, even if certain parts of it can only be accessed, it is still programmed and treated as the same area no matter where you are. Think about playing an other game like Halo or something, you jump down and are on a new floor, but you are in the same stage so even if you can't reach certain areas, that doesn't mean they're not still part of the stage. not sure if that is a good way of explaining it or not. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 15:22, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
:::Yeah, Chikasaurus [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zog1ksXXFbo made a video] about this. It's the Taillow on the balcony, so I certainly don't think it counts as a glitch, and is exactly how I would expect it to behave. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:20, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Friendship

2015-04-05T22:45:12Z

PokeMaster99999: /* Friendship Evolution Bug in ORAS */ new section

==Soothe Bell==
What happens if you give one of the bitter healing items to a Pokemon holding a Soothe Bell? --Ketsuban

:Even better question: What happen when you give a Pokémon that likes bitter food the bitter herbs? [[Image:Psychic-attack.png|Psychic]] '''[[User:Optimus35|Agent]] [[User:Optimus35/Mission|4]][[User:Optimus35/Emerald|4]][[Gallade (Pokémon)|8]][[User talk:Optimus35|δ]] | [[User:Optimus35/Diamond&Pearl|DP]]''' [[Image:Fighting-attack.png|Fighting]] 12:55, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
:As for the first question: Giving bitter herbs are negative events so the Soothe Bell won't help there...
::Second, it's a different type of bitter, like earwax bitter. No one likes that kind. '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:18, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

With evolution based on happiness, does the evolution occur when the happines level is reached, or when the pokemon grows a level at that happiness rating? --[[User:Mooresnakes|Mooresnakes]] 17:13, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

:The latter. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 17:24, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

::Thanks, i just looked down at the bottom of the page and i noticed it said that under pokemon evolutions. Sorry! --[[User:Mooresnakes|Mooresnakes]] 17:27, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

:What happen at the happiness if I trade my pokémon? --[[User:I.megaphone|I.megaphone]] 15:46, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

It resets the happiness. [[User:Midnight Celtic|Midnight Celtic]] 15:56, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

thank--[[User:I.megaphone|I.megaphone]] 16:05, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

How the hell do you make a pokémon happy in Gen II? I know the methods, but it's almost impossible =S [[User:Hfc2x|Hfc2x]] 03:46, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
:: You smack it over the head until it learns it either has the choice of being happy or being beaten with a stick. [[User:MasterRichmond|MasterRichmond]] 02:53, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

== An observation on egg hatching ==

"When a Pokémon is still in its egg, its happiness value is ignored and the happiness value is used as a decrementing step value that triggers the egg hatch when it reaches zero."
''Unlikely'' - Cheat search couldn't find any values in RAM that decreased by any amount each step. Also, if "decrementing step value" means the happiness value is subtracted from a seperate counter (which I couldn't find), why do higher values give longer wait times? On 50, the egg would "take a long time" to hatch, while on 1 it was almost ready. --[[User:Kyoufu Kawa|Kyoufu Kawa]] 18:18, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
: I'm an idiot. --[[User:Kyoufu Kawa|Kyoufu Kawa]] 19:34, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

== Justification Request - "positive event" ==

I was just wondering, what exactly constitutes to fulfilling the term "positive event". Is it simply all of the things that are above the statement which increase happiness or are there (other) specific things? --[[User:Arpaleggia|Arpaleggia]] 22:12, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

== Generation II Happiness Checking ==

Quickly putting: is there anyway to check a Pokémon's happiness in Generation II games? It'd be useful to know at least wether my Pokémon are at maximum happiness or not. -- [[User:Pro-mole|Professional Mole]] ([[User talk:Pro-mole|Talk here]]) 13:28, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
:There's a lady in Goldenrod somewhere. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 13:32, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
::Near the bike shop. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 19:37, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

== Herb Items ==

I have two Ambipoms, same level, same Attack IV, same nature and same Attack EVs.
I got them to from trade because a friend of mine had borrowed them.
One has Frustration and the other one Return.
I gave 10 Energy Roots to the first and walked less than 200 steps, and the second one, I did nothing but walk around (a little).

I used them in PBR, against the same Pokémon and Return caused much more damage than Frustration, but I thought Frustration should be meaximum power.

Can anyone explain? {{unsigned|Diby esp}}

Sorry, I forgot to sign [[User:Diby esp|Gabriel Rocha (Diby esp)]] 20:35, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
:Try again in a handheld version. Stadium‐style games tend to keep happiness at a specific value for all Pokémon. [[User:IIMarckus|IIMarckus]] 21:03, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

::Thank you! =) Ok, I will. By the way, the one with Frustration was holding a Silk Scarf =D [[User:Diby esp|Gabriel Rocha (Diby esp)]] 21:06, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

== Healing Items and Drink Items ==

In Generation IV, do these two types of items that help Pokémon recover HP have different Happiness bonuses?
I am asking because I have heard/read this from somewhere some time ago, and I would like to hear from Bulbapedia regarding this. Thank you. --[[User:HechEff|HechEff]] 12:20, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
:I think its, stat vitamins, like Protein and Iron greatly boost happiness. Other items somewhat boost happiness, and herbal medicine lowers happiness. That's all I can think of. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]]. See my new and improved user page, and [[User talk:Missingno. Master|comment on it!]] 12:23, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

== Evolving a Golbat in pseudo-Gen I ==
Can [[Golbat]] evolve in [[Fire Red]] or [[Leaf Green]] before I have the [[national dex]]? If it does and its not in the [[Kanto dex]] does it end up being one of those Pokémon that doesn't have a dex number, kind of like a few of them that I traded from [[Colosseum]] on the Wi (in cube mode) into [[Sapphire]] on the GBA, before getting the national dex? [[User:Iliekmudkips|Iliekmudkips]] 23:52, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
:It won’t evolve. The Pokémon will glow but then return to normal, with text saying “…?”. [[User:IIMarckus|IIMarckus]] 01:33, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

::No body thought that this important piece of information would be useful to include in the article? --[[User:Sadfdas3243|Sadfdas3243]] ([[User talk:Sadfdas3243|talk]]) 03:10, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

== More info. ==

Does anyone know the values of happiness corresponding to one or two hearts on the friendship checker -being that 2 big hearts is max/255- ? - ''unsigned comment from {{u|Twistedpokefan}} ([[User talk:Twistedpokefan|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Twistedpokefan|contribs]]) ''

== Again? ==
It already states that the Friend Checker checks a Pokémon's happiness in the middle of the article. Do we really need to put it again? --[[User:The Bulb's Master|The Bulb's Master]] 16:40, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

== Happiness from healing in Gen IV ==
I just checked this after reading on Serebii that healing a pokemon does not effect happiness. My pokemon was at a happiness of 208. I got into a random battle, got injured, and ran. I used a hyper potion on the pokemon, saved, and checked happiness again. It was still 208. Do we have any proof that this actually works? Because according to this, it doesn't. [[User:Lnodiv|Lnodiv]] 02:24, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

* I think you just proved your own point... the fact that it's still at 208 means that happiness is not affected. Letting your Pokémon get damaged doesn't affect happiness either, until it faints. [[User:Ztobor|Ztobor]] 01:44, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

== Friend Ball ==

There is nothing in regards to Johto's Friend Ball... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 07:26, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
The Friend ball sets happiness to 200, but does nothing else in terms of happiness. Its catch rate is the same as a pokéball. {{unsigned|Joninwannab}}

==Base happiness==
This was alluded to briefly in the article, but I'm curious about the details of this mechanic. Most Pokémon, when caught, have a base happiness value of 70. There are, however, few exceptions to this, with certain species having either a higher (Clefairy, Chansey etc) or lower (Ralts, Absol etc) value when caught. It's also said that trading resets happiness to 70.

My question is: does this also apply to the species with non-standard base happiness? When Absol is traded, is its happiness reset to 70 or to zero? Similarly, what's the situation with eggs? Would a newly-hatched Absol have a happiness of 70 or zero? Do the modified happiness values apply only to Pokémon caught in the wild, or do they carry over to other methods of obtaining Pokémon as well? [[User:Bikini Miltank|Bikini Miltank]] 17:54, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

== Walking 256 steps? ==

I've been playing Pokémon Gold on a tool-assisted emulator (Don't worry, the only cheats I use are save-states and "unlimited TM", basically creating my own GameShark code that sets the number of each TM available to 1, and makes it stay there), and it seems that in Gen.2, it takes 512 walked steps to raise a Pokémon's happiness by 1, not 256. (I've been watching the memory addresses for steps walked and happiness.) Can somebody verify this? [[User:Ztobor|Ztobor]] 00:51, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

== Pokewalker Happiness ==

If anyone knows the rate at which the [[Pokewalker]] increases the happiness of the pokemon within, it should probably be submitted here as well as the Pokewalker page. Thanks :) [[User:MarkoOhNo|MarkoOhNo]] 08:19, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

== Pikachu 147 Happiness ==
Does anyone know how Pikachu will react to being talked to if it has a happiness of 147+?--[[User:Zybera|Zybera]] 00:02, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
: I don't know where 147 came from, testing in Mt. Moon's exterior, there are actually a whole range of default responses for 147+, they include Pikachu jumping smiling, blinking and shifting his ear giving the "Pika Pika" message (actually 131 to 160), Pikachu excited, jumping fast and giving a swift "Pikachu!" message from (161 to 200), Pikachu giving a passionate "Pikachu" message with one heart from (201 to 250) and Pikachu giving two hearts touching his own cheeks from (251 to 255).

If you want the Bulbasaur from Melanie in Celadon City you could keep battling until he gives the "Pika Pika" message and then use a Potion on him 16 times, it'll even work when it gives the "It won't have any effect." message, you could use it 15 times when he has full HP and then win a battle. --[[User:Chickasaurus|Chickasaurus]] 14:29, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

== LG/FR Item Usage ==
When you use an item on your Pokémon outside of battle, doesn't the size of your Pokémon's sprite have some relation to happiness? It gets bigger/closer as it gets happier, right? [[User:Spudwalt|-Spudwalt]] 05:02, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
:I believe that's correct, though I don't know for sure. --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 05:32, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

== Any way to get the exact values for gen IV methods? ==

Would reducing a Pokemon to zero, then doing each happiness raising event with an unknown value (using methods that have exact values to get exact values from these events) suffice? If not, could one state where I would find happiness values in the memory (I'm a bit of a newbie at reading the memory) [[User:Shadowater|Shadowater]] 17:27, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
:You should be able to find them incrementally by searching the game RAM; start at zero happiness and perform a search for integer 00. Now perform one of the Generation IV methods and use the 'value higher' feature, you can keep raising the Pokémon's happiness and use the 'value higher' feature again to narrow down the results and even more so by perhaps using something like an [[Energy Root]] and performing a 'value lower' search. --[[User:Chickasaurus|Chickasaurus]] 00:07, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

== Move/Rename article==

Kill me if you want, but I've always wondered why do we call this feature (and thus the article) "happiness" and not "Friendship". I mean, In-game I've seen few (if any) hints about it being actual happiness, but lots of references towards merely making your Pokémon strongly bonded to you, thus "friendship":

-Dr. Footstep is supposed to measure your Pokémon's happiness, but his dialog has NOTHING to do with your Pokémon's actual happiness; instead his interpretations of your Pokémon's thoughts are always about how much they like your or how attached they are toward you. Just the same, every other in-game happiness indicator deals with you and your Pokémon being friends rather than your Pokémon being happy ("your Pokémon seems to like you" and so on).

-When you get a Pokémon on a trade or catch one from the wild, its happiness is low. I see this more having to do with your Pokémon not knowing you and thus not feeling attached to you. In a similar note, when you hatch a Pokémon, its happiness is higher, which can be interpreted as babies feeling attached to their mother or whatever they first see after being born, in this case, you.

-Many official guides (at least the ones I've read translated into Sppanish in my country, but still official) call it friendship, not happiness.

-Hell, the whole point of the games is to became friends with your Pokémon and build a deep bond with them.

-And maybe the strongest one as actual proof, as this one comes from the STATUS screen (so it's somehow of an actual name and not just a hint): when you use a EV berry or whatever item to raise your Pokémon's so-called 'happines', the text says "Your Pokémon became friendly", not "Your Pokémon became happy".

-On a similar note, all of the Soothe Bell bag descriptions say it boosts the Pokémon's friendship, not happiness: "A held item that calms spirits and fosters '''friendship'''." from RSE, "An item to be held by a Pokémon. A bell with a comforting chime that makes the holder calm and '''friendly'''." from FRLG and "An item to be held by a Pokémon. It is a bell with a comforting chime that calms the holder and makes it '''friendly'''." from GenIV. See, where is happiness ever mentioned?

So from this (I mean the latter two) I assume the official in-game term for it as a status/condition is "Friendship", not "Happiness".

I know a lot of articles link to here and changing all of them would be a hell, but I think Bulbapedia's policy is to give preference to correct information over comodity, so here's my contribution to the 'pedia. Think about it.- ''unsigned comment from {{u|Veggietable}} ([[User talk:Veggietable|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Veggietable|contribs]]) ''

: These are interesting arguments. Yes, the English versions explicitly and without exception refer to it in-game as "friendly" and not "happy", and there are some ways where it makes more sense that way (say, how can a {{p|Psyduck}} be all that ''happy'' when it is constantly having a headache?). And yes, happiness is the term already used extensively across Bulbapedia. But on the other hand, what is the term used in other language releases (like the Japanese originals) and what term does Nintendo/Game Freak officially refer to it as? ("Happiness" also seems to roll off the tongue a bit easier than "friendliness", but that's just IMO.) --''[[User:Stratelier|Stratelier]] 18:22, 14 April 2011 (UTC)''

== Amity Square ==

I didn't see this down there, so sorry if it is but... Does walking in Amity Square increase happiness any more than normal? --[[User:Mew is the Original One|Mew is the Original One]] 23:18, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

== List of Gen V phrases ==

Can we start compiling a list of phrases from Gen V? There are two happiness raters, and their responses differ not only from previous generations, but also each other. Here's some the ones I've seen:

{|
|Rater
|Phrase
|My context
|-
|[[Icirrus City]]
|"It is super friendly to you! I'm a bit jealous!"
|(Said of my Lv.75 [[starter Pokémon]])
|-
|
|"It is quite friendly to you! You must be a kind person!"
|(Said of a {{p|Glaceon}} bred and raised to Lv.25)
|-
|
|"The relationship is neither good nor bad... It looks neutral."
|(Said of a freshly caught, Lv.10 {{p|Taillow}})
|-
|[[Nacrene City]]
|"It's very friendly toward you! It must be happy with you."
|(both my starter and Glaceon)
|-
|
|"It's a little bit friendly to you... Something like that."
|(freshly caught Taillow)
|}

Evidently, the two Unova happiness raters also have different ranges for their responses. --''[[User:Stratelier|Stratelier]] 18:38, 14 April 2011 (UTC)''

:This is what the Icirrus woman says:
::It is super friendly to you! I'm a bit jealous!
::It is quite friendly to you! You must be a kind person!
::It is friendly to you. It must be happy with you.
::It is a little friendly to you... That's what I'm getting.
::The relationship is neither good nor bad... It looks neutral.
::Hmmm... It may not like you very much.
::By any chance, you... Are you a very strict person? I feel that it really doesn't like you...
:And from Nacrene City, only three phrases:
::It's very friendly toward you! It must be happy with you.
::It's a little bit friendly to you... Something like that.
::Hmmm... It may still take some time.
:[[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 22:04, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

== Pokemon Dreamworld Happiness Effects (Gen V) ==

Anyone know anything about effects of Pokemon Dreamworld on happiness?
I've been putting in a Woobat daily and it seems to become happier just from that according to the lady in Icirrus City. [Though I have also been getting it a massage daily, but I just went up a level of happiness from yesterday before getting the daily massage today. (Only maybe 3 massages ever, and I'm on "It is friendly to you. It must be happy with you." from the rater in Iciruss City on Pokemon White.)]

No idea how to find numbers, but it seems like Pokemon Dreamworld can raise happiness -- [[User:RyelaSilverwolf|RyelaSilverwolf]] 02:43, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

It could be the [[Pokémon Dream World|Dreamworld]], but it is likely that just by keeping [[Woobat|Woobat]] with you in your party and walking around will be contributing these increments in [[Happiness|happiness]]. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe it is about 256 steps for one [[Happiness|happiness]] point cycle? [[User:Herbalfusion|Herbalfusion]] 08:03, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

== FR/LG and R/S/E ==

I've found phrases list (do not ask how). Unfortunately I do not know at what happiness they are...

{{sup/3|FRLG}}
{| class="expandable" border=1 align="left" style="background: #fff; border:1px solid #000; border-collapse:collapse;"
|- style="background: #CCCCFF;"
! Statement
! Happiness
|-
| "It couldn't possibly love you any more than it does now. Your POKéMON is happy beyond words."
| ???
|-
| "It looks very happy. I wish <rival> could see this and learn something from it."
| ???
|-
| "It's quite friendly with you. Keep being good to it!"
| ???
|-
| "It's warming up to you. Trust must be growing between you."
| ???
|-
| "It's not quite familiar with you yet. POKéMON are all quite wary when you first get them."
| ???
|-
| "<Player>, I don't like the way it glares at you. Could you try being a little nicer to it?"
| ???
|-
| "...Um, it's not easy for me to say this, but... Is there some reason why your POKéMON would hate you so much?"
| ???
|}

{|
|Phrase
|Pokémon rated
|-
| "It looks very happy. I wish <rival> could see this and learn something from it."
| My level 83 starter and level 67 Pidgeotto caught at Route 24 (at level 11)... I guess their happiness is high, but not close to maximum.
|-
| "It's quite friendly with you. Keep being good to it!"
| Level 54 Golem caught at Rock Tunnel at level 16 and level 35 Beedrill caught in Viridian Forest at level 3
|-
| "It's not quite familiar with you yet. POKéMON are all quite wary when you first get them."
| Freshly caught Doduo.
|}
Note that the Pokémon other than Doduo are in my team since early game (and ofk all were evolved).

{{sup/3|RSE}}
{| class="expandable" border=1 align="left" style="background: #fff; border:1px solid #000; border-collapse:collapse;"
|- style="background: #CCCCFF;"
! Statement
! Happiness
|-
| "It adores you. It can't possibly love you any more. I even feel happy seeing it."
| ???
|-
| "It seems to be very happy. It obviously likes you a whole lot."
| ???
|-
| "It likes you quite a lot. It seems to want to be babied a little."
| ???
|-
| "It's getting used to you. It seems to believe in you."
| ???
|-
| "It's not very used to you yet. It neither loves nor hates you."
| ???
|-
| "It's very wary. It has scary viciousness in its eyes. It doesn't like you much at all."
| ???
|-
| "This is a little hard for me to say... Your POKéMON simply detests you. Doesn't that make you uncomfortable?"
| ???
|}
{|
|Phrase
|Pokémon rated
|-
| "It adores you. It can't possibly love you any more. I even feel happy seeing it."
| Level 100 starter, level 100 Metagross, level 91 Azumarill (caught at level 13), level 83 Pellipper (caught at level 14), level {{tt|69|SERIOUSLY}} (caught at level 7) Delcatty, level 44 Weezing (caught at level 16) and Level 64 Machoke (caught at level 15).
|-
| "It seems to be very happy. It obviously likes you a whole lot."
| Level 54 Graveler (caught at level 8).
|-
| "It's getting used to you. It seems to believe in you."
| Level 33 Electrode (caught at level 23), and level 50 Salamence (caught at level 35).
|-
| "It's not very used to you yet. It neither loves nor hates you."
| Level 15 Spinda that for most time was in Box.
|}

Can anyone find out happiness for these phrases? [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] 20:35, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

== Gym Leader & Elite 4 effect? ==

It says battling gym leaders and elite 4 increases happiness in generations 1-2, but there is no mention of it from gen 3 onwards. Did this get removed? [[User:DisgruntledGoat|DisgruntledGoat]] 12:22, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

== In Pokemon Colosseum side series? ==

Should we include the happiness raters in ''[[Pokemon Colosseum]]'' and ''[[Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness]]'' as well? In ''Colosseum'', the happiness rater is an elderly woman living in [[Agate Village]], however she will not rate happiness if there is a [[Shadow Pokémon]] currently in the player's party. In ''XD'', the rater is a man in the upstairs floor of [[Gateon Port]]'s Club Krabby, and his phrases are quite different from the ones seen in the main series. --''[[User:Stratelier|Stratelier]]'' 20:48, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
:They should definitely added. Since you seem to have a better idea then me, go ahead. --[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] 14:48, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

== Icirrus name rater ==

I was just checking my Swaldoon's friendship (gona take a while to get used to that) in Icirrus City and the rater said a quote that wasn't on the list: It is a little frendly to you... That's what I'm getting. i '''think''' that it's 150-199 but i'm not sure... if someone could confirm this that would help. [[User:Volcronaperson|_Volcronaperson_]] 16:23, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
:I just got the same quote with my new Shiny Eevee. i then went to the Nacrene one and she said It's very friendly toward you! It must be happy with you. i get the idea that that's very high, but i'm not sure [[User:Volcronaperson|_Volcronaperson_]] 23:08, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

== Name change ==
Why was the name of the article changed to freindship? It is supposed to be happiness, right? Tell me the reason, please. [[User:PSinha|PSinha]] 07:51, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
:It has actually always officially been called friendship; for some reason, fans interpretted it as happiness. A bunch of sources were mentioned on the forums starting from [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/f195/suggestions-ideas-problems-39604/index123.html#post3959760 this post] (be sure to look at the next page). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 08:10, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

== Icirrus City Friendship checker values ==

Just posting this if someone wants to check my results and point out any flaws in it. (Possible friendship points are in the parentheses)

I did a bit of testing to see what the values were for the messages. To test, I caught a Scraggy on Route 4 since they only start out with 35 Friendship points. I flew to Icirrus City for a check of the message getting: "Hmmm... It may not like you very much."(35/36) Then I went to the grass outside of Dragonspiral Tower and fainted Scraggy.(34/35) After battle, I used Revival Herb and went back to check the message getting again, "Hmmm... It may not like you very much."(19/20) Another battle where I used an Energy Root and checked again to get the same message.(9-11) Another Battle, using EnergyPowder and getting fainted again.(3-5) Did another checked and still got the same message. Used a Revival Herb and Checked to finally get "By any chance, you... Are you a very strict person? I feel that it really doesn't like you..."

With Scraggy have zero friendship points, I prepared to give some vitamins to Scraggy. First doing calculations to reach 179 and 186 since I felt that it was somewhere in that range I gave Vitamins to get to those values. I gave Scraggy a Soothe Bell to bring the value of giving Vitamins from 5 points to 7 points(due to rounding down) and gave Scraggy seven Proteins(49) before I removed the Soothe Bell. Next I gave Scraggy ten Irons without the bell.(99) I checked and received the message: "The relationship is neither good nor bad... It looks neutral." Next I used another Protein to get to 102 and then gave Scraggy the bell a second time. For the next part I gave Scraggy ten Calciums(142) and then seven Zincs with the bell on(170). A check gave the message: "It is friendly to you. It must be happy with you." Afterwards, I took the bell off and gave Scraggy two more Zincs to get to 176 and then put the Soothe Bell on again. I used a final Zinc to get to 180 and check to get "It is friendly to you. It must be happy with you." With that, I remove the bell for the final time and used two Carbos.(186) Checking still gave the same message. From here, Soft resetting several times from 186 gave 194(2 vitamins with Soothe Bell) as the end of one message and 195(3 vitamins without Bell) the being of the next.

For the final part I captured a Mienfoo to clean the slate at 70 points. This time around I gave Mienfoo the Vitamins with the Soothe Bell up until 252 points, then adding one move Vitamin without the Bell and checking the message at 254. The result was "It is quite friendly to you! You must be a kind person!" and a final Vitamin gave "It is super friendly to you! I'm a bit jealous!"(255)

Sorry for this being so long, but I wanted to give an explanation of the values on the page. Hopefully, this will be useful. [[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 06:30, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

== Does walking include bike riding and surfing? ==

When it says, "Walking X steps", does that include bike riding and surfing? –[[User:PatPeter|'''Pat''']][[User talk:PatPeter|'''Peter''']] 19:39, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
:I would assume it the same way Egg steps, Vs. Seeker recharging, Safari Zone step counting, and the Pedometer Pokétch app, so yes. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 09:37, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

== Translation ==

Isn't "degree of emotional attachment" an actual definition of "friendship"? I don't know how different can it be in japanese, however. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 17:07, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
:There is a word for "friendship" in Japanese (several in fact), but the phrase used here isn't one of them. So I went with the literal translation rather than the logical one (which is essentially what the localizers did). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 09:31, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

== Bianca's phrases in BW2 ==

Shortly after receiving the Badge from [[Aspertia City]] Gym, [[Bianca]] registers herself in the player's [[Xtransceiver]] and specifically says you can call her to check the friendship between you and your party members. Some of the phrases I've seen from her are:

*"You and <Pokemon>..."
** "You two sure get along great! It looks like you are having fun being together! You seem bright and cheerful!"
** "You seem really close! You look so, so happy! It's enough to make me happy, too!"
** "You're starting to get to be friends. Just maybe, walking along the same path has made you understand one another."
** "You still have room for improvement. How nice! I mean, you can become even better friends!"

There's probably one or two more phrases - anyone know what they are? --''[[User:Stratelier|Stratelier]]'' 22:56, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

== Cute color ==

Should we keep the cute coloring, or change it to another coloring? It clashes with the evo table. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 03:19, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
:Considering the large amount of tables that have cute coloring to the color of the evolution table leads me to think that the evolution table should be changed to the cute color. Plus, the cute color fits the theme of friendship. :) --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 04:26, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

== Pal Park/PokeTransfer? ==

Say, I know that friendliness resets upon trading but does it reset upon transfer using either Pal Park (Gen III to Gen IV) or PokeTransfer (Gen IV to Gen V)? [[User:JessicaSideways|JessicaSideways]] ([[User talk:JessicaSideways|talk]]) 22:47, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
:Yes. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 23:00, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

== Groomer in Castelia City in B2W2 ==

I've been using the groomer in Castelia City to raise the happiness of my Eevee, in White 2. I noticed that the effect it gives is much like the Haircut Brothers in HG/SS, in that she says: "a little bit more friendly", "more friendly", and "much more friendly". This responses have corresponded to an increase in friendship of +5/+10/+30, regardless of what the value is. The current article says it's just +3, but that's not correct. Was there a change from BW to B2W2 with this? -[[User:Jdthebud|Jdthebud]] ([[User talk:Jdthebud|talk]]) 02:01, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
:I've updated the page in regards to this and our new findings of Location influence. I dunno what BW1 was, but it definitely is the +5 +10 +30 as I noted here [http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4515547&postcount=1017]. I figured someone else would add it as a few people normally snipe our findings :P -[[User:Kaphotics|Kaphotics]] ([[User talk:Kaphotics|talk]]) 09:26, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

== Mystery Dungeon ==

It appears the page lacks ''Mystery Dungeon'' info. Does this mean that they do not evolve or that the info is missing? Or do they evolve via another method? [[User:Pikachu Bros.|Pikachu Bros.]] ([[User talk:Pikachu Bros.|talk]]) 15:36, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
: The MD games seem to use [[IQ]] instead of friendship. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] ([[User talk:Yamiidenryuu|talk]]) 00:01, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

== Generation V section bonuses ==

Why couldn't the {{DL|Out-of-battle effect item|Soothe Bell}} and the catch location bonuses simply be listed in the [[Friendship#Generation V|Generation V]] table along with everything else? Why do they have to be as separate info? --[[User:Det|Det]] ([[User talk:Det|talk]]) 08:22, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
:It's best to keep them outside of the table, as they are not '''events which prompt a change of friendship'''. They only modify the net change, same with the location based boost. +1 if PokeBall=Luxury, +1 if Location_Current=Location_Met, *1.5 if Holding_Soothe.
:I guess it would be possible to add these "amps" to a new table beneath. Remember, they're only for friendship raising events :P —[[User:Kaphotics|Kaphotics]] ([[User talk:Kaphotics|talk]]) 07:01, 18 July 2013 (UT

==Bonnie: Friendship Rater?==
I noticed that Bonnie says stuff implying that she rates people's Pokémon.

Direct quote: "Oh, you and Delphox are...Becoming good friends! I can tell!"
[[User:Mr. Guye|Mr. Guye]] ([[User talk:Mr. Guye|talk]]) 01:45, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

== Unclear wording? ==

The articles says:
:''Friendship in Generation III works similarly to Generation II but with two additional mechanics to boost it. If a Pokémon is caught in a Luxury Ball or is holding a Soothe Bell, all friendship-raising events will increase the Pokémon's friendship value by one point; friendship-lowering events are not affected. These effects stack on each other, meaning a Pokémon in a Luxury Ball holding a Soothe Bell increases the value by two points.''
I'm having trouble understanding the effect of these items given the wording. If friendship-lowering effects remain the same, that would indicate this is a postive (as in good) change. However, it states plainly that these items cause all friendship-increasing events to increase the value by one point; presumably '''only''' one point in '''all''' cases, ''regardless of whether more would normally be given''. I would consider that capping to be a bad thing, but the paragraph goes on to describe stacking the gains by having a Pokemon in a Luxury Ball hold a Soothe Bell.

In short, I think it was intended to say "by one ''additional'' point", but the word seems to have been omitted by accident. Can anyone confirm this? --[[User:GARY-DOS|GARY-DOS]] ([[User talk:GARY-DOS|talk]]) 04:27, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

::I have edited the wording slightly to be more clear. --[[User:Kaphotics|Kaphotics]] ([[User talk:Kaphotics|talk]]) 21:49, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

==Again w/ Bonnie==

I am quite certain that Bonnie (whom one can find in Prism Tower) should be considered as a potential friendship checker. Reference my previous edit to this talk page. [[User:Mr. Guye|Mr. Guye]] ([[User talk:Mr. Guye|talk]]) 18:25, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
:She is not a friendship checker as she just checks the Pokémon-Amie affection stat. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 18:30, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

== Friendship event values in Generation VI ==

Since we can't read the memory of the game yet, I thought maybe we could find out the values with enough experimentation, taking as a starting point the fact that the values barely change from generation to generation; the programmers seems to seldom break something that currently works. People is welcome to reproduce the experiments, check values with another methods and Pokémon, criticize and with enough confirmation take them as valid.

I've been playing around with friendship triggered evolution and I've found some interesting things that will give us some insight about any new mechanics. My test subjects are a couple of Riolu freshly caught in the Friend Safari, one caught in a Repeat Ball and another kept in a [[Luxury Ball]]. It's very easy to reach the PC at the reception once you catch one before walking 128 steps to keep them at base Friendship 70.

Once I got my test Pokémon I saved in front of the PC to repeat and play around with the values. By saving there I could also control the location of the events; by staying inside the Location_Met matches and I just need to walk outside the building to make it mismatch.

I started with the assumption that Friendship starts at 70 for wild Riolu and that they evolve after a level-up when the friendship value is of at least 220 points, level up bonus included in this reckoning (same behavior as Generation V).

'''Following the GenV reckoning it seems like [[vitamins]] and [[level]] up still act the same:''' For the range of (0 to 99), (100 to 199) and (200 to 255), changes are +5, +3, +2 in the Riolu at the Repeat Ball. Reckoning acts the same way as in Generation V. Two experiments went as follow:

* 47 Vitamins + 1 Rare Candy = NO Evolution
** 47 Vitamins + 2 Rare Candies = '''Evolution'''
* 48 Vitamins + 1 Rare Candy = '''Evolution'''

'''Bonus of +1 if the event happens at the Location_Met seems to still apply:''' Changes by vitamins and level up are now +6, +4, +3 for the Riolu in the Repeat Ball. Reckoning matches to the method used in Generation V. Two experiment went as follow:

* 35 Vitamins + 1 Rare Candy = NO Evolution
** 35 Vitamins + 2 Rare Candies = '''Evolution'''
* 36 Vitamins + 1 Rare Candy = '''Evolution'''

'''[[Luxury Ball]] now seems to give a +1 bonus to all events, not only level up,''' ''but this needs to be tested in other events besides vitamins.'' Two experiments went as follow:

* 34 Vitamins + 1 Rare Candy = NO Evolution
** 34 Vitamins + 2 Rare Candies = NO Evolution
** 34 Vitamins + 3 Rare Candies = '''Evolution'''
* 36 Vitamins + 1 Rare Candy = '''Evolution'''

'''[[Luxury Ball]] and Location_Met bonus seems to stack.''' ''Luxury Ball bonus needs confirmation.'' Two experiments went as follow:

* 27 Vitamins + 1 Rare Candy = NO Evolution
** 27 Vitamins + 2 Rare Candies = '''Evolution'''
* 28 Vitamins + 1 Rare Candy = '''Evolution'''

Knowing this I set to find the elusive value of the [[Super Training#Training Bags|Soothing Bag]], which is the newest friendship mechanic in the game. Unfortunately night time caught me so it will have to wait for tomorrow. Just before the time ran out I found that at least at 199 points the Soothing bag is worth +19 or +20, that the change isn't dependent of the number of hits you need to break the bag (Flare + Soothing yields the same as the Soothing alone) and that the change seems to be tiered as well. Further tests are needed but today's experiments went as follow for the Riolu at the Repeat Ball, outside the Friend Safari building:

* 38 Vitamins + 1 Soothing Bag + 1 Rare Candy = NO Evolution
** 38 Vitamins + 1 Soothing Bag + 2 Rare Candies = '''Evolution'''
* 39 Vitamins + 1 Soothing Bag + 1 Rare Candy = '''Evolution'''
* 1 Soothing Bag + 38 Vitamins + 6 Rare Candies = NO Evolution
** 1 Soothing Bag + 38 Vitamins + 7 Rare Candies = '''Evolution'''
--[[User:Profesor Rod|Profesor Rod]] ([[User talk:Profesor Rod|talk]]) 04:08, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

:Found the Soothing Bag and confirmed the vitamins values thanks to the confirmed values for the Friendship Checker at Laverre. A bag and 2 vitamins are just enough to tip the friendship to 100. Hence, the bag is worth +20 and isn't tiered (possible values of +18 and +19 are now discarded). --[[User:Profesor Rod|Profesor Rod]] ([[User talk:Profesor Rod|talk]]) 21:50, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

::Playing around a bit more with this, with the Riolu in the Luxury Ball, breaking the bag in Location_Met while holding a [[Soothe Bell]] I came up with an unchanged value of +20. '''Soothing Bag isn't affected by any modifier.''' --[[User:Profesor Rod|Profesor Rod]] ([[User talk:Profesor Rod|talk]]) 22:24, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

:[[Soothe Bell]] still behaves the same as in Generation V. Order of operations is as follow:

# Take the value from the table.
# If the current location matches the location of meeting, Add +1 to the boost. (All exceptions are unknown. At least the Soothing Bag skips this check.)
# If the Pokémon is holding a Soothe Bell, Multiply the boost by 1.5 and round down. (All exceptions are unknown. At least the Soothing Bag skips this check.)

:An educated guess is that the Amie boost and the negative ones are exceptions to all modifiers. --[[User:Profesor Rod|Profesor Rod]] ([[User talk:Profesor Rod|talk]]) 01:47, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Feel free to elaborate from here. I don't have EV-Lowering Berries and "bitter herbs", nor I've devised a way to check their values. They shouldn't be hard to figure out. They are probably the same as in Gen V. --[[User:Profesor Rod|Profesor Rod]] ([[User talk:Profesor Rod|talk]]) 01:47, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

:Nevermind about the EV Berries. I got some and confirmed the old values. Added all the values that were missing in the table. Juices will be particularly hard to test as they may need Pokémon at level 100 for testing the Sodas and Fully EV trained ones for testing the Juices. Perilious Soup, Colorful Shake, the Bitter Herbs and Fainting may be slightly easier but still difficult since there is lots of walking involved. Evolution by Friendship or a Pokémon with full friendship might be the ticket on these cases. I have no clue about when Amie adds friendship but once someone knows this info, getting the actual value by playing near the Friendship rater might be easy. I don't have information about massages or walking and these probably will be impossible to get without seeing the memory since chance-controlled events forces us to tackle these with statistics coming from big samples; too painful, slow and unreliable. --[[User:Profesor Rod|Profesor Rod]] ([[User talk:Profesor Rod|talk]]) 03:56, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
::Walking shouldn't be so difficult. Nor should massage, I think. For walking, just put your Pokemon, say, 3 points away from evolving by friendship (or from an evaluation border, like "Well, I think you and <Pokémon> will be an even greater combo someday!"), save (that's the easy way, at least), and then test whether walking 128 steps will make the Pokemon evolve (resetting each time you've walked 128 steps); if it won't evolve (or the evaluation doesn't change) after 5 or 10 (or more) tries, probably walking ''can't'' add 3 points. So then try the same with your Pokemon 2 points away from evolving/an evaluation border, and if that doesn't work try it at 1 point away. (Or do that backwards; start 1 point away and see where it ''stops'' working.)
::If you're ever worried about any values that walking might have added that you don't know, you should be able to trade with someone, while you're standing wherever you need to be (by the massager or the evaluater, I imagine), to reset your Pokemon's friendship or to get a Pokemon with base friendship. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 04:16, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
:::Or, after flying into Lumiose city, take a cab, which will drop you off right outside the juice shop's front door. [[User:Yamikuronue|Yamikuronue]] ([[User talk:Yamikuronue|talk]]) 01:41, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

::What do you mean by "chance controlled events"? Are you saying massages are unlikely to give the same amount twice? [[User:Lithium|Lithium]] ([[User talk:Lithium|talk]]) 20:02, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
:::Last gen ([[Friendship#Generation V|gen V]]), walking only increased friendship half the time and massaging might randomly add more friendship than it usually would. It's possible they act the same in X/Y (but right now, we don't know whether they do). [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:18, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

Just a single data point, but it might be useful: I hatched an Eevee from an egg, and so did my husband. We swapped eevees, and each did a single massage + a colorful shake. I took a Persim berry + Iapapa berry, under the suspicion that if I picked a group 3 and a group 2 berry, it would give more happiness than two group 1 berries. My husband picked an Oran berry + Mago berry, because he happened to have those on hand. He also fed his two Irons, but I didn't have any handy. We each went to the happiness rater and mine said "It's amazingly friendly toward you! It must be so happy spending every day with you!" while his said "It's a little bit friendly to you… Something like that." Clearly the different berries give a varying result in the colorful shake, and it at least partially matches up to the EV effectiveness from the EV shakes; Occam's razor suggests that it's probably the same tiers of effectiveness. Well, that or the massage has a super wide range of variance; a more effective experiment can probably be devised to follow up on this. [[User:Yamikuronue|Yamikuronue]] ([[User talk:Yamikuronue|talk]]) 01:27, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

:I hope this helps for determining the value of Rare Soda and Ultra Rare Soda

:Subject: Lv 1 Eevee with a Timid nature, electric hp, somewhat vein characteristic.
:IVs: 31 / 31 / 29 / 2 / 31 / 31

:Ultra Rare Soda (5 lvs) + Rare Soda (3 lvs) + 34 rare candies = Evolution at lv 43

:Ultra Rare Soda (5 lvs) + 35 Rare Candies = Evolution at lv 41

:Rare Soda (3 lvs) + 35 Rare Candies = Evolution at lv 39

:37 Rare Candy = evolution at lv 38

:It seems that both the Ultra Rare Soda and Rare Soda both have the same value more or less. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 18:25, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

::Subject 2: Lv 1 Eevee with a timid nature, dark hidden power, alert to sounds characteristic
::IVs: IVs: 31 / 9 / 3 / 31 / 31 / 31

::Ultra Rare Soda (5 lvs) + Rare Soda (3 lvs) + 24 rare candies given at place met/hatched = Evolution at lv 33

::Ultra Rare Soda (5 lvs) + 25 Rare Candies given at place met/hatched = Evolution at lv 31

::Rare Soda (3 lvs) + 25 Rare Candies given at place met/hatched = Evolution at lv 29

::26 Rare Candy given at place met/hatched = evolution at lv 27

::Possible varrible is that I had to leave the juice shoppe to administer the rare candies, this means walking 128+ steps. The Eevee was hatched at Parfum Palace, outside in the front entrance yard. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 23:54, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

Green Juice 4 + 35 rare candies = Evolution at lv 36

Green Juice 8 + 35 rare candies = Evolution at lv 36

Green Juice 32 + 35 rare candies = Evolution at lv 36

colorful shake (2,200) + 29 rare candies = Evolution at lv 30

colorful shake (2,200) + Rare Soda (3 lvs) + 35 Rare Candies = Evolution at lv 31

colorful shake (2,200) + blended colorful shake (Starf Berry + Cheri Berry) + 21 Rare Candies = Evolution at lv 22

colorful shake (2,200) + blended colorful shake (Starf Berry + Chilan Berry) + 18 Rare Candies = Evolution at lv 19

colorful shake (2,200) + blended colorful shake (Starf Berry + Roseli Berry) + 18 Rare Candies = Evolution at lv 19

colorful shake (2,200) + blended colorful shake (Starf Berry + Ganlon Berry) + 18 Rare Candies = Evolution at lv 19

blended colorful shake (Cheri Berry + Chesto bery) + 28 rare candies = Evolution at lv 29

blended colorful shake (Cheri Berry + Chilan Berry) + 31 rare candies = Evolution at lv 32

blended colorful shake (Cheri Berry + Starf Berry) + 32 rare candies = Evolution at lv 33

blended colorful shake (Chesto Berry + Chople Berry) + 31 rare candies = Evolution at lv 32

blended colorful shake (Starf Berry + Chilan Berry) + 25 rare candies = Evolution at lv 26

blended colorful shake (Starf Berry + Roseli Berry) + 25 rare candies = Evolution at lv 26

blended colorful shake (Starf Berry + Ganlon Berry) + 25 rare candies = Evolution at lv 26

It would seem that Berry Groups don't adhere to the same rules for colorful shake as they do for <color> juices. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 01:39, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

:I got a lv 1 Riolu to evolve at lv 20 while holding sooth bell while it drank a 2,100 Pokédollar Colorful shake, then a Starf Berry + Roseli Berry blended Colorful shake, then a massage followed by a horde Durant battle with befriending 0-power 3 and Exp O-power 3 on. In the battle it went from lv 1 to 20 then evolved into Lucario. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 19:34, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

Ok, I went to the friendship rater and did some test with an lv 1 Eevee of the GTS

Base Friendship of 70 + 6 rare candies = 100~ Friendship

Base Friendship of 70 + 23 rare candies = 150~ Friendship

Base Friendship of 70 + Colorful Shake (3,000) = 100~ Friendship

Base Friendship of 70 + Colorful Shake (3,000) + 17 Rare Candies = 150~ Friendship

Base Friendship of 70 + Rare Soda (3lvs boost) = 70-89

Base Friendship of 70 + Rare Soda (3lvs boost) + 5 Rare Candies = 100~ Friendship

Base Friendship of 70 + Rare Soda (3lvs boost) + 21 Rare Candies = 150~ Friendship

Base Friendship of 70 + Rare Soda (3lvs boost) + 38 Rare Candies = 200~ Friendship

Base Friendship of 70 + Ultra Rare Soda (5lvs boost) = 70-89

Base Friendship of 70 + Ultra Rare Soda (5lvs boost) + 6 Rare Candies = 100~ Friendship

Base Friendship of 70 + Ultra Rare Soda (5lvs boost) + 22 Rare Candies = 150~ Friendship

Base Friendship of 70 + Ultra Rare Soda (5lvs boost) + 38 Rare Candies = 200~ Friendship

So it would seem that the Colorful Shake that costs 3,000 pokedollars is likely 30 points of friendship.

Rare Soda seems to be worth the same a 1 rare candy it seem. However it looks like judging from all the data...the Ultra Rare Soda takes away friendship or doesn't give as much friendship as Rare soda? [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 00:49, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
: I seem to have had quite a few copy paste related problems with my data. In any case, I think we might have to split the Juice Shoppe stuff into a separate table. Especially with the Colorful Shake stuff. Colorful Shakes seem to raise friendship by large leaps, and seems to have a numeral value that correlates with its price. Kind of like how Purple Juice priced at {{Pdollar}}1,500 will increase HP EVs of the Pokémon by 15, a Colorful shake prices at {{Pdollar}}3,000 seems to raise a Pokémon's happiness by 30. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 07:12, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

== Rare Candies and the lv up it causes ==

Does a Pokémon gain +5 for being given a rare candy (which counts as a vitamin) and another +5 for the lv up it causes, or is it just +5 for the rare candy by itself? [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 21:02, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

== Guide Book Conflict ==

I am reading "Pokémon X & Pokémon Y: The Official Kalos Region Guidebook" (Published by the Pokémon Company International),
and it says "Every activity in Pokémon-Amie increases friendship." This is in the section regarding friendship and is
included along with "Have it hold a Soothe Bell", "Get it a massage", "Travel together", and "Level it up."

The Page says that Pokémon-Amie has no effect on friendship. Can Someone explain this?([[User:Kentmanecke|Kentmanecke]] ([[User talk:Kentmanecke|talk]]) 22:51, 13 July 2014 (UTC))
:Explain? How about: the guide book is wrong.
:I tested it. I didn't test it to extremes, but if "every activity" in Amie is supposed to affect friendship, I would have seen something; I didn't. So it comes down to this: either the guide book is wrong, or I'm wrong (or we're both half wrong: ''something'' might affect friendship, but not "everything" and not anything I tested). I'm more than happy to admit a mistake if you can show me exactly how Amie increases friendship. But for now, I've not seen that it does. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 22:57, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

== Info on Chance when Walking? ==

The current versions of the tables give the impression that walking increases friendship every 256 steps. That is not necessarily the case. The table for Gen V says it's only 50 % of the time but the tables for Gen III and Gen IV lack that information. In older versions of this page, there were notes saying that the exact chance had not yet been calculated (I assume it’s 50 % as in Gen V but you never know), which I guess wasn’t great but at least it served as a hint to inform readers that sometimes you don’t get any increase in friendship through walking. Now this information is only in the edit-header and gets easily overlooked. Can we add something like this in the tables themselves again? [[User:Peterpansexuell|Peterpansexuell]] ([[User talk:Peterpansexuell|talk]]) 16:45, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

== Mauville Massages ==

Is it safe to presume massages at Mauville City are as effective as those from Cyllage?
[[User:Gamescook|Gamescook]] ([[User talk:Gamescook|talk]]) 04:37, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

== pikachu base value? ==

So what is the base value of the starter pikachu in yellow? the whole section on generation i only state "reset to base value" but did not once state what is the base value. -[[User:Pokeant|Pokeant]] ([[User talk:Pokeant|talk]]) 05:52, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
:The base value is set to 5A (90 in decimal) when you start a new game. You can read Pikachu's happiness with the memory address D46F. However, that statement seems to be wrong. When I traded Pikachu its happiness changed from 4C to 42 (a reduction of 10). [[User:Chickasaurus|Chickasaurus]] ([[User talk:Chickasaurus|talk]]) 06:06, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

== Stadium 2 ==

The Japanese name seems to be a little different in Stadium 2. It seems to [http://i.imgur.com/ReCG9eX.png be] ''なっきぐぁい'' rather than what is in article. [[User:Eridanus|Eridanus]] ([[User talk:Eridanus|talk]]) 10:25, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

== Friendship Evolution Bug in ORAS ==

This is literally the first time I've ever run into a glitch in the Gen VI games (luckily I never saved in Lumiose City...), but when I tried to evolve 3 Igglybuff I recevied over the GTS, they wouldn't evolve. I know Igglybuff evolves through friendship, and according to the Verdanturf checker, all 3 of my Igglybuff "couldn't love me any more" - in addition, I tried giving them Kelpsy Berries and the like, but they "had no effect". Upon searching for possible fixes, I noticed that a few other people had experienced this as well - Pokémon that are meant to evolve by friendship not evolving (and some were from December 2014, before any official patches). Interestingly enough, I managed to evolve a Budew and Chansey, a Togepi and an Azurill last week or so, but now I can't evolve Igglybuff... Odd.

Maybe I'll have to Bank my Igglybuff over to Y and evolve them there, then Bank them back into OR.
[[User:PokeMaster99999|PokeMaster99999]] ([[User talk:PokeMaster99999|talk]]) 22:45, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

Farfetch'd (Pokémon)/Generation V learnset

2014-09-15T03:43:45Z

PokeMaster99999: /* By {{pkmn|breeding}} */ Finally removed the Bunnelby/Diggersby error from the Flail entry. As noted in the Talk page, these two are from Gen VI, while this is the Gen V learnset page.

{{Pokelinkback|083|Farfetch'd|5}}
====By [[level|leveling up]]====
{{learnlist/levelh|Farfetch'd|Normal|Flying|5|1}}
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Poison Jab|Poison|Physical|80|100|20||}}
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Peck|Flying|Physical|35|100|35||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Sand-Attack|Ground|Status|—|100|15||}}
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Leer|Normal|Status|—|100|30||}}
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Fury Cutter|Bug|Physical|20|95|20||}}
{{learnlist/level5|7|Fury Attack|Normal|Physical|15|85|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|9|Knock Off|Dark|Physical|20|100|20||}}
{{learnlist/level5|13|Aerial Ace|Flying|Physical|60|—|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|19|Slash|Normal|Physical|70|100|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|21|Air Cutter|Flying|Special|55|95|25||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|25|Swords Dance|Normal|Status|—|—|30||}}
{{learnlist/level5|31|Agility|Psychic|Status|—|—|30||}}
{{learnlist/level5|33|Night Slash|Dark|Physical|70|100|15||}}
{{learnlist/level5|37|Acrobatics|Flying|Physical|55|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|43|Feint|Normal|Physical|30|100|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|45|False Swipe|Normal|Physical|40|100|40||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|49|Air Slash|Flying|Special|75|95|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|55|Brave Bird|Flying|Physical|120|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/levelf|Farfetch'd|Normal|Flying|5|1}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{learnlist/tmh|Farfetch'd|Normal|Flying|5|1}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM06|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|90|10||}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM10|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|—|100|15||}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM11|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|—|—|5||}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM17|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10||}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM21|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM27|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM32|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15||}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM40|Aerial Ace|Flying|Physical|60|—|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM42|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM44|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10||}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM45|Attract|Normal|Status|—|100|15||}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM46|Thief|Dark|Physical|40|100|10||}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM48|Round|Normal|Special|60|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM54|False Swipe|Normal|Physical|40|100|40||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM62|Acrobatics|Flying|Physical|55|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM67|Retaliate|Normal|Physical|70|100|5||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM75|Swords Dance|Normal|Status|—|—|30||}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM77|Psych Up|Normal|Status|—|—|10||}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM83|Work Up|Normal|Status|—|—|30||}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM84|Poison Jab|Poison|Physical|80|100|20||}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM87|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15||}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM88|Pluck|Flying|Physical|60|100|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM89|U-turn|Bug|Physical|70|100|20||}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM90|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10||}}
{{learnlist/tm5|HM01|Cut|Normal|Physical|50|95|30||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|HM02|Fly|Flying|Physical|90|95|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tmf|Farfetch'd|Normal|Flying|5|1}}

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
{{learnlist/breedh|Farfetch'd|Normal|Flying|5|1}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|056|Mankey}}{{MSP|216|Teddiursa}}{{MSP|217|Ursaring}}{{MSP|263|Zigzagoon}}{{MSP|264|Linoone}}{{MSP|287|Slakoth}} {{MSP|289|Slaking}}{{MSP|300|Skitty}}|Covet|Normal|Physical|60|100|40||||'''}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|324|Torkoal}}{{MSP|399|Bidoof}}{{MSP|400|Bibarel}}|Curse|Ghost|Status|—|—|10|Tough|0}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|016|Pidgey}}{{MSP|017|Pidgeotto}}{{MSP|018|Pidgeot}}{{MSP|441|Chatot}}{{MSP|519|Pidove}}{{MSP|520|Tranquill}} {{MSP|521|Unfezant}}{{MSP|580|Ducklett}}{{MSP|581|Swanna}}|FeatherDance|Flying|Status|—|100|15||}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|206|Dunsparce}}{{MSP|220|Swinub}}{{MSP|231|Phanpy}}{{MSP|263|Zigzagoon}}{{MSP|287|Slakoth}}{{MSP|289|Slaking}} {{MSP|324|Torkoal}}{{MSP|327|Spinda}}{{MSP|613|Cubchoo}}{{MSP|614|Beartic}}|Flail|Normal|Physical|—|100|15||||'''}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|161|Sentret}}{{MSP|162|Furret}}{{MSP|163|Hoothoot}}{{MSP|164|Noctowl}}{{MSP|300|Skitty}}{{MSP|427|Buneary}} {{MSP|428|Lopunny}}{{MSP|448|Lucario}}|Foresight|Normal|Status|—|—|40||}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|016|Pidgey}}{{MSP|017|Pidgeotto}}{{MSP|018|Pidgeot}}{{MSP|519|Pidove}}{{MSP|520|Tranquill}}{{MSP|521|Unfezant}} {{MSP|527|Woobat}}{{MSP|528|Swoobat}}{{MSP|561|Sigilyph}}|Gust|Flying|Special|40|100|35||||'''}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|470|Leafeon}}{{MSP|495|Snivy}}{{MSP|496|Servine}}{{MSP|497|Serperior}}|Leaf Blade|Grass|Physical|90|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|016|Pidgey}}{{MSP|017|Pidgeotto}}{{MSP|018|Pidgeot}}{{MSP|021|Spearow}}{{MSP|022|Fearow}}{{MSP|255|Torchic}} {{MSP|256|Combusken}}{{MSP|257|Blaziken}}{{MSP|333|Swablu}}{{MSP|334|Altaria}}{{MSP|441|Chatot}}{{MSP|561|Sigilyph}}|Mirror Move|Flying|Status|—|—|20||}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|050|Diglett}}{{MSP|051|Dugtrio}}{{MSP|220|Swinub}}{{MSP|221|Piloswine}}{{MSP|473|Mamoswine}}{{MSP|529|Drilbur}} {{MSP|530|Excadrill}}{{MSP|551|Sandile}}{{MSP|552|Krokorok}}{{MSP|553|Krookodile}}|Mud-Slap|Ground|Special|20|100|10||}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|051|Dugtrio}}{{MSP|052|Meowth}}{{MSP|053|Persian}}{{MSP|083|Farfetch'd}}{{MSP|227|Skarmory}}{{MSP|336|Seviper}} {{MSP|359|Absol}}{{MSP|430|Honchkrow}}{{MSP|434|Stunky}}{{MSP|435|Skuntank}}{{MSP|461|Weavile}}{{MSP|509|Purrloin}} {{MSP|510|Liepard}}{{MSP|571|Zoroark}}|Night Slash|Dark|Physical|70|100|15||}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|016|Pidgey}}{{MSP|017|Pidgeotto}}{{MSP|018|Pidgeot}}{{MSP|019|Rattata}}{{MSP|020|Raticate}}{{MSP|025|Pikachu}} {{MSP|037|Vulpix}}{{MSP|038|Ninetales}}{{MSP|078|Rapidash}}{{MSP|084|Doduo}}{{MSP|085|Dodrio}}{{MSP|133|Eevee}} {{MSP|134|Vaporeon}}{{MSP|135|Jolteon}}{{MSP|136|Flareon}}{{MSP|196|Espeon}}{{MSP|197|Umbreon}}{{MSP|470|Leafeon}} {{MSP|471|Glaceon}}{{MSP|155|Cyndaquil}}{{MSP|156|Quilava}}{{MSP|157|Typhlosion}}{{MSP|161|Sentret}}{{MSP|162|Furret}} {{MSP|215|Sneasel}}{{MSP|461|Weavile}}{{MSP|255|Torchic}}{{MSP|256|Combusken}}{{MSP|257|Blaziken}}{{MSP|276|Taillow}} {{MSP|277|Swellow}}{{MSP|278|Wingull}}{{MSP|279|Pelipper}}{{MSP|309|Electrike}}{{MSP|310|Manectric}}{{MSP|335|Zangoose}} {{MSP|359|Absol}}{{MSP|396|Starly}}{{MSP|397|Staravia}}{{MSP|398|Staraptor}}{{MSP|417|Pachirisu}}{{MSP|418|Buizel}} {{MSP|419|Floatzel}}{{MSP|427|Buneary}}{{MSP|428|Lopunny}}{{MSP|448|Lucario}}{{MSP|519|Pidove}}{{MSP|520|Tranquill}} {{MSP|521|Unfezant}}{{MSP|522|Blitzle}}{{MSP|523|Zebstrika}}{{MSP|566|Archen}}{{MSP|567|Archeops}}{{MSP|587|Emolga}}|Quick Attack|Normal|Physical|40|100|30||||'''}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|461|Weavile}}{{MSP|501|Oshawott}}{{MSP|502|Dewott}}{{MSP|503|Samurott}}{{MSP|626|Bouffalant}}|Revenge|Fighting|Physical|60|100|10||}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|016|Pidgey}}{{MSP|017|Pidgeotto}}{{MSP|018|Pidgeot}}{{MSP|021|Spearow}}{{MSP|022|Fearow}}{{MSP|163|Hoothoot}} {{MSP|164|Noctowl}}{{MSP|206|Dunsparce}}{{MSP|278|Wingull}}{{MSP|279|Pelipper}}{{MSP|441|Chatot}}{{MSP|519|Pidove}} {{MSP|520|Tranquill}}{{MSP|521|Unfezant}}{{MSP|580|Ducklett}}{{MSP|581|Swanna}}|Roost|Flying|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|227|Skarmory}}|Steel Wing|Steel|Physical|70|90|25||}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|133|Eevee}}|Trump Card|Normal|Special|—|—|5||||'''}}
{{learnlist/breedf|Farfetch'd|Normal|Flying|5|1}}

====By [[Move Tutor|tutoring]]====
{{learnlist/tutorh|Farfetch'd|Normal|Flying|5|1}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Covet|Normal|Physical|60|100|40||'''|no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Heat Wave|Fire|Special|100|90|10|||no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Helping Hand|Normal|Status|—|—|20|||no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Iron Tail|Steel|Physical|100|75|15|||no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Knock Off|Dark|Physical|20|100|20|||no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Last Resort|Normal|Physical|140|100|5||'''|no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Roost|Flying|Status|—|—|10|||no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Sky Attack|Flying|Physical|140|90|5||'''|no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10|||no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Snore|Normal|Special|40|100|15||'''|no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Tailwind|Flying|Status|—|—|30|||no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Uproar|Normal|Special|90|100|10||'''|no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutorf|Farfetch'd|Normal|Flying|5|1}}

===={{pkmn|Dream World}} moves====
{{learnlist/eventh|Farfetch'd|Normal|Flying|5|1}}
{{learnlist/event5|{{dwa|Pleasant Forest}}|Leaf Blade|Grass|Physical|90|100|15}}
{{learnlist/event5|{{dwa|Pleasant Forest}}|Roost|Flying|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/eventf|Farfetch'd|Normal|Flying|5|1}}

Ampharos (Pokémon)/Generation V learnset

2014-09-15T03:25:31Z

PokeMaster99999: /* By tutoring */ Um...Mega Ampharos didn't exist in Generation V, so there's no reason why Outrage should be italicised. As such, I just removed the italics.

{{pokelinkback|181|Ampharos|5}}

====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{learnlist/levelh|Ampharos|Electric|Electric|V|2}}
{{learnlist/levelV|Start|Start|Fire Punch|Fire|Physical|75|100|15}}
{{learnlist/levelV|Start|Start|Tackle|Normal|Physical|50|100|35}}
{{learnlist/levelV|Start|Start|Growl|Normal|Status|—|100|40}}
{{learnlist/levelV|Start|Start|Thunder Wave|Electric|Status|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/levelV|Start|Start|ThunderShock|Electric|Special|40|100|30||'''}}
{{learnlist/levelV|5|N/A|Growl|Normal|Status|—|100|40}}
{{learnlist/levelV|14|4|Thunder Wave|Electric|Status|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/levelV|10|8|ThunderShock|Electric|Special|40|100|30||'''}}
{{learnlist/levelV|20|11|Cotton Spore|Grass|Status|—|100|40}}
{{learnlist/levelV|25|16|Charge|Electric|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/levelV|N/A|20|Take Down|Normal|Physical|90|85|20}}
{{learnlist/levelV|33|25|Electro Ball|Electric|Special|—|100|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/levelV|N/A|29|Confuse Ray|Ghost|Status|—|100|10}}
{{learnlist/levelV|30|30|ThunderPunch|Electric|Physical|75|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/levelV|71|35|Power Gem|Rock|Special|70|100|20}}
{{learnlist/levelV|48|40|Discharge|Electric|Special|80|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/levelV|40|46|Cotton Guard|Grass|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/levelV|55|51|Signal Beam|Bug|Special|75|100|15}}
{{learnlist/levelV|63|57|Light Screen|Psychic|Status|—|—|30}}
{{learnlist/levelV|79|62|Thunder|Electric|Special|120|70|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/levelf|Ampharos|Electric|Electric|5|2}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{learnlist/tmh|Ampharos|Electric|Electric|5|2}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM06|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|90|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM10|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|—|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM15|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM16|Light Screen|Psychic|Status|—|—|30}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM17|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM18|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM20|Safeguard|Normal|Status|—|—|25}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM21|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM24|Thunderbolt|Electric|Special|95|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM25|Thunder|Electric|Special|120|70|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM27|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM31|Brick Break|Fighting|Physical|75|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM32|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM42|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM44|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM45|Attract|Normal|Status|—|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM48|Round|Normal|Special|60|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM49|Echoed Voice|Normal|Special|40|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM52|Focus Blast|Fighting|Special|120|70|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM56|Fling|Dark|Physical|—|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM57|Charge Beam|Electric|Special|50|90|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM68|Giga Impact|Normal|Physical|150|90|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM70|Flash|Normal|Status|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM72|Volt Switch|Electric|Special|70|100|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM73|Thunder Wave|Electric|Status|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM78|Bulldoze|Ground|Physical|60|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM87|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM90|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM93|Wild Charge|Electric|Physical|90|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM94|Rock Smash|Fighting|Physical|40|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|HM04|Strength|Normal|Physical|80|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tmf|Ampharos|Electric|Electric|5|2}}

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
{{learnlist/breedh|Ampharos|electric|electric|5|2}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|427|Buneary}}{{MSP|428|Lopunny}}{{MSP|504|Patrat}}{{MSP|505|Watchog}}{{MSP|572|Minccino}}{{MSP|573|Cinccino}}|After You|Normal|Status|—|—|15}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|025|Pikachu}}{{MSP|026|Raichu}}{{MSP|058|Growlithe}}{{MSP|059|Arcanine}}{{MSP|077|Ponyta}}{{MSP|078|Rapidash}} {{MSP|083|Farfetch'd}}{{MSP|135|Jolteon}}{{MSP|160|Feraligatr}}{{MSP|190|Aipom}}{{MSP|424|Ambipom}}{{MSP|203|Girafarig}} {{MSP|215|Sneasel}}{{MSP|461|Weavile}}{{MSP|252|Treecko}}{{MSP|253|Grovyle}}{{MSP|254|Sceptile}}{{MSP|418|Buizel}} {{MSP|419|Floatzel}}{{MSP|427|Buneary}}{{MSP|428|Lopunny}}{{MSP|522|Blitzle}}{{MSP|523|Zebstrika}}{{MSP|570|Zorua}} {{MSP|571|Zoroark}}{{MSP|587|Emolga}}|Agility|Psychic|Status|—|—|30}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|131|Lapras}}{{MSP|143|Snorlax}}{{MSP|152|Chikorita}}{{MSP|153|Bayleef}}{{MSP|154|Meganium}}{{MSP|324|Torkoal}} {{MSP|357|Tropius}}{{MSP|363|Spheal}}{{MSP|364|Sealeo}}{{MSP|365|Walrein}}{{MSP|432|Purugly}}|Body Slam|Normal|Physical|85|100|15}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|179|Mareep}}{{MSP|180|Flaaffy}}{{MSP|181|Ampharos}}{{MSP|309|Electrike}}{{MSP|310|Manectric}}{{MSP|403|Shinx}} {{MSP|404|Luxio}}{{MSP|405|Luxray}}{{MSP|522|Blitzle}}{{MSP|523|Zebstrika}}{{MSP|587|Emolga}}|Charge|Electric|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|032|Nidoran♂}}{{MSP|033|Nidorino}}{{MSP|034|Nidoking}}|Flatter|Dark|Status|—|100|15}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|304|Aron}}{{MSP|305|Lairon}}{{MSP|306|Aggron}}|Iron Tail|Steel|Physical|100|75|15}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|058|Growlithe}}{{MSP|059|Arcanine}}{{MSP|203|Girafarig}}{{MSP|220|Swinub}}{{MSP|221|Piloswine}}{{MSP|473|Mamoswine}} {{MSP|228|Houndour}}{{MSP|229|Houndoom}}{{MSP|231|Phanpy}}{{MSP|232|Donphan}}{{MSP|261|Poochyena}}{{MSP|262|Mightyena}} {{MSP|263|Zigzagoon}}{{MSP|264|Linoone}}{{MSP|309|Electrike}}{{MSP|310|Manectric}}{{MSP|325|Spoink}}{{MSP|326|Grumpig}} {{MSP|498|Tepig}}{{MSP|499|Pignite}}{{MSP|500|Emboar}}{{MSP|506|Lillipup}}{{MSP|507|Herdier}}{{MSP|508|Stoutland}} {{MSP|527|Woobat}}{{MSP|528|Swoobat}}{{MSP|631|Heatmor}}|Odor Sleuth|Normal|Status|—|—|40}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|027|Sandshrew}}{{MSP|028|Sandslash}}{{MSP|050|Diglett}}{{MSP|051|Dugtrio}}{{MSP|083|Farfetch'd}}{{MSP|133|Eevee}} {{MSP|134|Vaporeon}}{{MSP|135|Jolteon}}{{MSP|136|Flareon}}{{MSP|196|Espeon}}{{MSP|197|Umbreon}}{{MSP|470|Leafeon}} {{MSP|471|Glaceon}}{{MSP|190|Aipom}}{{MSP|424|Ambipom}}{{MSP|234|Stantler}}{{MSP|255|Torchic}}{{MSP|256|Combusken}} {{MSP|257|Blaziken}}{{MSP|261|Poochyena}}{{MSP|262|Mightyena}}{{MSP|263|Zigzagoon}}{{MSP|264|Linoone}}{{MSP|443|Gible}} {{MSP|444|Gabite}}{{MSP|445|Garchomp}}{{MSP|449|Hippopotas}}{{MSP|450|Hippowdon}}{{MSP|504|Patrat}}{{MSP|505|Watchog}} {{MSP|509|Purrloin}}{{MSP|510|Liepard}}{{MSP|551|Sandile}}{{MSP|552|Krokorok}}{{MSP|553|Krookodile}}{{MSP|559|Scraggy}} {{MSP|560|Scrafty}}{{MSP|585|Deerling}}{{MSP|586|Sawsbuck}}|Sand-Attack|Ground|Status|—|100|15}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|023|Ekans}}{{MSP|024|Arbok}}{{MSP|052|Meowth}}{{MSP|053|Persian}}{{MSP|054|Psyduck}}{{MSP|055|Golduck}} {{MSP|056|Mankey}}{{MSP|057|Primeape}}{{MSP|108|Lickitung}}{{MSP|463|Lickilicky}}{{MSP|158|Totodile}}{{MSP|159|Croconaw}} {{MSP|160|Feraligatr}}{{MSP|190|Aipom}}{{MSP|424|Ambipom}}{{MSP|197|Umbreon}}{{MSP|206|Dunsparce}}{{MSP|215|Sneasel}} {{MSP|461|Weavile}}{{MSP|246|Larvitar}}{{MSP|247|Pupitar}}{{MSP|248|Tyranitar}}{{MSP|252|Treecko}}{{MSP|253|Grovyle}} {{MSP|254|Sceptile}}{{MSP|293|Whismur}}{{MSP|294|Loudred}}{{MSP|295|Exploud}}{{MSP|336|Seviper}}{{MSP|352|Kecleon}} {{MSP|408|Cranidos}}{{MSP|409|Rampardos}}{{MSP|434|Stunky}}{{MSP|435|Skuntank}}|Screech|Normal|Status|—|85|40}}
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{{learnlist/breedf|Ampharos|electric|electric|5|2}}

====By [[Move Tutor|tutoring]]====
{{learnlist/tutorh|Ampharos|Electric|electric|5|2}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|After You|Normal|Status|—|—|15|||no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Fire Punch|Fire|Physical|75|100|15|||no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Heal Bell|Normal|Status|—|—|5|||no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Iron Tail|Steel|Physical|100|75|15|||no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Magnet Rise|Electric|Status|—|—|10|||no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Outrage|Dragon|Physical|120|100|10|||no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Signal Beam|Bug|Special|75|100|15|||no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10|||no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Snore|Normal|Special|40|100|15|||no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|ThunderPunch|Electric|Physical|75|100|15||'''|no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutorf|Ampharos|electric|electric|5|2}}

====By a prior [[evolution]]====
{{Learnlist/prevoh|Ampharos|Electric|Electric|5|2}}
{{Learnlist/prevo5|179|Mareep|d||||Reflect|Psychic|Status|—|—|20}}
{{Learnlist/prevo5|179|Mareep|d||||Shock Wave|Electric|Special|60|—|20|'''}}
{{Learnlist/prevof|Ampharos|Electric|Electric|5|2}}

Explosion (move)

2014-08-28T06:14:53Z

PokeMaster99999: /* Trivia */ Added a note about Lickilicky's STAB exclusivity, when it comes to Explosion.

{{bad picture|2=Should be replaced with Generation VI images}}
{{MoveInfobox|
n=153 |
name=Explosion |
jname=だいばくはつ |
jtrans=Giant Explosion |
jtranslit=Dai Bakuhatsu |
gameimage=Explosion V.png |
type=Normal |
damagecategory=Physical |
basepp=5 |
maxpp=8 |
power={{tt|250|170 in Generation I}} |
accuracy=100 |
bdesc=??? |
gen=I |
category=Beauty |
appeal=8 |
jam=0 |
cdesc=Makes a great appeal, but allows no more to the end. |
appealsc=0 |
scdesc=Earn +15 if all the Pokémon choose the same Judge. |
pokefordex=explosion |
touches=no |
protect=yes |
magiccoat=no |
snatch=no |
mirrormove=yes |
kingsrock=yes |
flag7=no |
flag8=no |
sound=no |
target=alladjacent |
tm1=yes |
tm#1=47 |
tm4=yes |
tm#4=64 |
tm5=yes|
tm#5=64|
tm6=yes|
tm#6=64|
mtfl=yes |
mte=yes |
na=no |
footnotes= }}
'''Explosion''' (Japanese '''だいばくはつ''' ''Giant Explosion'') is a damage-dealing {{type|Normal}} [[move]] introduced in [[Generation I]]. It is currently the most powerful move in terms of its base power. It was [[TM47]] in Generation I before losing its TM status in Generation II. It regained its TM status, albeit as [[TM64]], in Generation IV onwards.

==Effect==
===Generation I===
Explosion has a power of 170 in Generation I.

Explosion does damage, and causes the user to faint. Though its power is listed as 170, the target's {{stat|Defense}} will be halved when damage from this attack is calculated, giving it an effective power of 340. The game rounds up to avoid infinite damage, so Explosion will then effectively have a power of 170 if used against a target with a Defense value of 1.

If Explosion breaks a target's {{m|substitute}}, the user will not faint, though its image will be replaced by a blank image. Additionally, if the user of Explosion had a substitute at the time of such a situation, uses Substitute later, or switches out, its regular image will once again become visible.

If the user of Explosion attacks first and faints itself, the target will not attack or be subjected to recurrent damage during that round.

In Stadium, if Explosion breaks a target's substitute, the user will faint. The base power listed in Stadium is the one after halving Defense, ie. 340.

===Generation II===
Explosion's base power was [[List of modified moves|changed]] to the current 250. The Defense-halving step still applies, giving it an effective power of 500.

If Explosion is used against a {{m|substitute}}, a {{t|Ghost}} type, or a Pokémon that has used {{m|Protect}} or {{m|Detect}}, the user will still faint.

Unlike in the previous game, Stadium 2 lists Explosion's base power before halving Defense.

The {{DL|In-battle effect item|Focus Band}} won't prevent the user of Explosion from fainting.

===Generations III and IV===
Explosion cannot be used when a Pokémon with the Ability {{a|Damp}} is on the field. User's sprite no longer disappears upon the use of move.

Explosion will also affect all other Pokémon on the field in [[Double Battle]]s.

The {{DL|In-battle effect item|Focus Sash}} won't prevent the user of Explosion from fainting.

===Generation V===
Explosion no longer halves the target's Defense. Also, the user now faints before dealing damage as opposed to fainting after dealing damage in previous generations.

{{a|Sturdy}} won't prevent the user of Explosion from fainting.

===Pokémon Mystery Dungeon===
Explosion does not cause the user to faint, but instead cuts its HP in half, and affects all Pokémon, items, and walls within 2 tiles of the user, reducing HP by half on teammates, by 80 on hostile Pokémon, and destroying all walls, items, and [[dungeon tiles|special tiles]]. Explosion cannot be used in {{weather|rain}} or on any floor with a Pokémon with the Ability {{a|Damp}}. Additionally, {{type|Fire}} Pokémon take only 50% of usual damage.

==Description==
{{movedesc|Normal}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev3|Stad}}{{gameabbrev3|Stad2}}|The most powerful attack of all. However, the attacker faints after using this move.}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev3|GSC}}|Very powerful but makes user faint.}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev3|RSE}}{{gameabbrev3|Colo}}{{gameabbrev3|XD}}|Inflicts severe damage but makes the user faint.}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev3|FRLG}}|The user explodes to inflict terrible damage even while fainting itself.}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev3|DPPt}}{{gameabbrev3|HGSS}}|The user explodes to inflict damage on all Pokémon in battle. The user faints upon using this move.}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev3|BWB2W2}}|The user explodes to inflict damage on those around it. The user faints upon using this move.}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev3|XY}}|The user attacks everything around it by causing a tremendous explosion. The user faints upon using this move.}}
|}
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==Learnset==
===By [[Level|leveling up]]===
{{Moveheader/Level|Normal|1}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|074|Geodude|2|Rock|Ground|36|41|41|32|43|43}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|075|Graveler|2|Rock|Ground|43|48|53|38|53|53}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|076|Golem|2|Rock|Ground|43|48|53|38|53|53}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|100|Voltorb|1|Electric|Electric|43|39|46|43|47|47}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|101|Electrode|1|Electric|Electric|50|44|54|51|57|57}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|109|Koffing|1|Poison|Poison|48|41|41|37|42|B2W2=37|37}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|110|Weezing|1|Poison|Poison|53|44|44|40|46|B2W2=40|40}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|204|Pineco|1|Bug|Bug|no|36|36|31|PtHGSS=34|34|34}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|205|Forretress|2|Bug|Steel|no|39|39|33|PtHGSS=38|42|42}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|273|Seedot|1|Grass|Grass|no|no|43|43|43|43}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|337|Lunatone|2|Rock|Psychic|no|no|49|56|56|B2W2=49|49}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|338|Solrock|2|Rock|Psychic|no|no|49|56|56|B2W2=49|49}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|343|Baltoy|2|Ground|Psychic|no|no|45|71|60|B2W2=49|49}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|344|Claydol|2|Ground|Psychic|no|no|55|86|72|B2W2=61|61}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|377|Regirock|1|Rock|Rock|no|no|--|--|--|--}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|378|Regice|1|Ice|Ice|no|no|--|--|--|--}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|379|Registeel|1|Steel|Steel|no|no|--|--|--|--}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|425|Drifloon|2|Ghost|Flying|no|no|no|43|46|B2W2=50|50}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|426|Drifblim|2|Ghost|Flying|no|no|no|51|56|B2W2=60|60}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|434|Stunky|2|Poison|Dark|no|no|no|44|49|49}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|435|Skuntank|2|Poison|Dark|no|no|no|52|61|61}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|482|Azelf|1|Psychic|Psychic|no|no|no|76|76|76}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|524|Roggenrola|1|Rock|Rock|no|no|no|no|40|40}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|525|Boldore|1|Rock|Rock|no|no|no|no|55|55}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|526|Gigalith|1|Rock|Rock|no|no|no|no|55|55}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|568|Trubbish|1|Poison|Poison|no|no|no|no|47|47}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|569|Garbodor|1|Poison|Poison|no|no|no|no|59|59}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|597|Ferroseed|2|Grass|Steel|no|no|no|no|55|55}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|598|Ferrothorn|2|Grass|Steel|no|no|no|no|67|67}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|711|Gourgeist|2|Ghost|Grass|no|no|no|no|no|--, 75}}
{{Movefooter|Normal|1}}

===By {{pkmn|breeding}}===
{{Moveheader/Breed|Normal|2}}
{{Moveentry/Breed2|088|Grimer|1|Poison|Poison|no|{{MSP|109|Koffing}}{{MSP|110|Weezing}}|{{MSP|109|Koffing}}{{MSP|110|Weezing}}{{MSP|425|Drifloon}}{{MSP|426|Drifblim}}|no}}
{{Moveentry/Breed2|092|Gastly|2|Ghost|Poison|no|{{MSP|109|Koffing}}{{MSP|110|Weezing}}|{{MSP|109|Koffing}}{{MSP|110|Weezing}}{{MSP|425|Drifloon}}{{MSP|426|Drifblim}}|no}}
{{Moveentry/Breed2|095|Onix|2|Rock|Ground|no|{{MSP|074|Geodude}}{{MSP|075|Graveler}}{{MSP|076|Golem}}|{{MSP|074|Geodude}}{{MSP|075|Graveler}}{{MSP|076|Golem}}|no}}
{{Moveentry/Breed2|299|Nosepass|1|Rock|Rock|no|{{MSP|074|Geodude}}{{MSP|075|Graveler}}{{MSP|076|Golem}}|{{MSP|074|Geodude}}{{MSP|075|Graveler}}{{MSP|076|Golem}}|no}}
{{Movefooter|Normal|2}}

===By [[TM]]===
{{Moveheader/TM|Normal|1|TM47|no|no|TM64|TM64|TM64}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|074|Geodude|2|Rock|Ground|yes|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|075|Graveler|2|Rock|Ground|yes|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|076|Golem|2|Rock|Ground|yes|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|081|Magnemite|2|Electric|Steel|no|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|082|Magneton|2|Electric|Steel|no|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|088|Grimer|1|Poison|Poison|yes|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|089|Muk|1|Poison|Poison|yes|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|090|Shellder|1|Water|Water|yes|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|091|Cloyster|2|Water|Ice|yes|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|092|Gastly|2|Ghost|Poison|yes|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|093|Haunter|2|Ghost|Poison|yes|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|094|Gengar|2|Ghost|Poison|yes|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|095|Onix|2|Rock|Ground|yes|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|100|Voltorb|1|Electric|Electric|yes|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|101|Electrode|1|Electric|Electric|yes|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|102|Exeggcute|2|Grass|Psychic|yes|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|103|Exeggutor|2|Grass|Psychic|yes|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|109|Koffing|1|Poison|Poison|yes|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|110|Weezing|1|Poison|Poison|yes|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|151|Mew|1|Psychic|Psychic|yes|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|185|Sudowoodo|1|Rock|Rock|no|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|204|Pineco|1|Bug|Bug|no|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|205|Forretress|2|Bug|Steel|no|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|208|Steelix|2|Steel|Ground|no|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|211|Qwilfish|2|Water|Poison|no|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|219|Magcargo|2|Fire|Rock|no|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|222|Corsola|2|Water|Rock|no|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|273|Seedot|1|Grass|Grass|no|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|274|Nuzleaf|2|Grass|Dark|no|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|275|Shiftry|2|Grass|Dark|no|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|299|Nosepass|1|Rock|Rock|no|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|316|Gulpin|1|Poison|Poison|no|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|317|Swalot|1|Poison|Poison|no|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|323|Camerupt|2|Fire|Ground|no|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|324|Torkoal|1|Fire|Fire|no|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|337|Lunatone|2|Rock|Psychic|no|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|338|Solrock|2|Rock|Psychic|no|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|343|Baltoy|2|Ground|Psychic|no|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|344|Claydol|2|Ground|Psychic|no|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|362|Glalie|1|Ice|Ice|no|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|375|Metang|2|Steel|Psychic|no|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|376|Metagross|2|Steel|Psychic|no|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|377|Regirock|1|Rock|Rock|no|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|378|Regice|1|Ice|Ice|no|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|379|Registeel|1|Steel|Steel|no|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|425|Drifloon|2|Ghost|Flying|no|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|426|Drifblim|2|Ghost|Flying|no|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|434|Stunky|2|Poison|Dark|no|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|435|Skuntank|2|Poison|Dark|no|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|437|Bronzong|2|Steel|Psychic|no|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|438|Bonsly|1|Rock|Rock|no|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|462|Magnezone|2|Electric|Steel|no|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|463|Lickilicky|1|Normal|Normal|no|no|no|yes|yes|yes|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|476|Probopass|2|Rock|Steel|no|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|482|Azelf|1|Psychic|Psychic|no|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|485|Heatran|2|Fire|Steel|no|no|no|yes|yes|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|524|Roggenrola|1|Rock|Rock|no|no|no|no|yes|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|525|Boldore|1|Rock|Rock|no|no|no|no|yes|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|526|Gigalith|1|Rock|Rock|no|no|no|no|yes|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|568|Trubbish|1|Poison|Poison|no|no|no|no|yes|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|569|Garbodor|1|Poison|Poison|no|no|no|no|yes|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|577|Solosis|1|Psychic|Psychic|no|no|no|no|yes|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|578|Duosion|1|Psychic|Psychic|no|no|no|no|yes|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|579|Reuniclus|1|Psychic|Psychic|no|no|no|no|yes|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|582|Vanillite|1|Ice|Ice|no|no|no|no|yes|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|583|Vanillish|1|Ice|Ice|no|no|no|no|yes|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|584|Vanilluxe|1|Ice|Ice|no|no|no|no|yes|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|597|Ferroseed|2|Grass|Steel|no|no|no|no|yes|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|598|Ferrothorn|2|Grass|Steel|no|no|no|no|yes|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|615|Cryogonal|1|Ice|Ice|no|no|no|no|yes|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|645|Landorus|2|Ground|Flying|no|no|no|no|yes|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|649|Genesect|2|Bug|Steel|no|no|no|no|yes|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|703|Carbink|2|Rock|Fairy|no|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|710|Pumpkaboo|2|Ghost|Grass|no|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|711|Gourgeist|2|Ghost|Grass|no|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|719|Diancie|2|Rock|Fairy|no|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{Movefooter|Normal|1}}

===By [[Move Tutor]]===
{{Moveheader/tutor|Normal|2}}
{{Moveheader/tutor/3|yes|yes|no}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|074|Geodude|2|Rock|Ground|X|yes|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|075|Graveler|2|Rock|Ground|X|yes|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|076|Golem|2|Rock|Ground|X|yes|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|088|Grimer|1|Poison|Poison|X|yes|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|089|Muk|1|Poison|Poison|X|yes|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|090|Shellder|1|Water|Water|X|yes|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|091|Cloyster|2|Water|Ice|X|yes|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|092|Gastly|2|Ghost|Poison|X|yes|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|093|Haunter|2|Ghost|Poison|X|yes|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|094|Gengar|2|Ghost|Poison|X|yes|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|095|Onix|2|Rock|Ground|X|yes|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|100|Voltorb|1|Electric|Electric|X|yes|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|101|Electrode|1|Electric|Electric|X|yes|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|102|Exeggcute|2|Grass|Psychic|X|yes|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|103|Exeggutor|2|Grass|Psychic|X|yes|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|109|Koffing|1|Poison|Poison|X|yes|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|110|Weezing|1|Poison|Poison|X|yes|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|151|Mew|1|Psychic|Psychic|X|yes|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|185|Sudowoodo|1|Rock|Rock|X|yes|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|204|Pineco|1|Bug|Bug|X|yes|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|205|Forretress|2|Bug|Steel|X|yes|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|208|Steelix|2|Steel|Ground|X|yes|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|222|Corsola|2|Water|Rock|X|yes|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|273|Seedot|1|Grass|Grass|X|yes|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|274|Nuzleaf|2|Grass|Dark|X|yes|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|275|Shiftry|2|Grass|Dark|X|yes|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|299|Nosepass|1|Rock|Rock|X|yes|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|316|Gulpin|1|Poison|Poison|X|yes|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|317|Swalot|1|Poison|Poison|X|yes|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|323|Camerupt|2|Fire|Ground|X|yes|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|324|Torkoal|1|Fire|Fire|X|yes|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|337|Lunatone|2|Rock|Psychic|X|yes|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|338|Solrock|2|Rock|Psychic|X|yes|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|343|Baltoy|2|Ground|Psychic|X|yes|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|344|Claydol|2|Ground|Psychic|X|yes|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|362|Glalie|1|Ice|Ice|X|yes|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|375|Metang|2|Steel|Psychic|X|yes|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|376|Metagross|2|Steel|Psychic|X|yes|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|377|Regirock|1|Rock|Rock|X|yes|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|378|Regice|1|Ice|Ice|X|yes|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|379|Registeel|1|Steel|Steel|X|yes|yes|X|X|X|X|X|X}}
{{Movefooter/tutor|Normal|2}}

==In the anime==
{{moveanime|type=normal|exp=yes|gen=The user glows brightly and then suddenly explodes, or causes everything around it to explode.|image1=Brock Forretress Explosion.png|image1p=Forretress|image2=Brock Forretress Explosion impact.png|image2p=Explodes|image3=Electrode Explosion.png|image3p=Electrode|image4=Clefairy PK04 Metronome Explosion.png|image4p=Clefairy}}
{{movep|type=normal|ms=035|pkmn=Clefairy|method=Clefairy causes everything around it to explode violently.}}
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Clefairy (Pokémon)|user1=Multiple wild Clefairy|startcode=EP006|startname=Clefairy and the Moon Stone|notes=Debut Used via {{color2|{{normal color dark}}|Metronome (move)|Metronome}}}}
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Clefairy (Pokémon)|user1=Multiple wild Clefairy|startcode=PK04|startname=Pikachu's Rescue Adventure|notes=Used via {{color2|{{normal color dark}}|Metronome (move)|Metronome}}}}
{{movep|type=normal|ms=101|pkmn=Electrode|method=Electrode's body glows red, yellow, or white, becomes surrounded in yellow sparks and explodes violently.}}
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Electrode (Pokémon)|user1=Unknown Trainer's Electrode|startcode=EP033|startname=The Flame Pokémon-athon!}}
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Electrode (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Electrode|startcode=PK01|startname=Pikachu's Vacation}}
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Professor Oak (anime)#Other|user1=Multiple wild Electrode|startcode=EP065|startname=Showdown at the Po-ké Corral}}
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Danny|user1=Danny's Electrode|startcode=EP093|startname=Navel Maneuvers}}
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Electrode (Pokémon)|user1=Multiple wild Electrode|startcode=EP114|startname=The Underground Round-Up}}
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Electrode (Pokémon)|user1=Multiple Electrode guarding the Electric Company|startcode=EP199|startname=Current Events}}
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Electrode (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Electrode|startcode=AG079|startname=Pearls are a Spoink's Best Friend}}
{{movep|type=normal|ms=110|pkmn=Weezing|method=Weezing's body glows white, then explodes violently.}}
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Pokémon League entrance exam instructor|user1=Pokémon League entrance exam instructor's Weezing|startcode=EP056|startname=The Ultimate Test}}
{{movep|type=normal|ms=205|pkmn=Forretress|method=Forretress's body glows white, then explodes violently.}}
{{movebtm|type=normal|user=Brock's Forretress|startcode=AG004|startname=You Never Can Taillow!}}

==In the manga==
===In The Electric Tale of Pikachu manga===
{{movemanga|type=normal|exp=yes|gen=The user makes its body explode violently.|image1=Black Fog Explosion.png|image1p=Haunter}}
{{movep|type=normal|ms=093|pkmn=Haunter|method=Haunter's body explodes violently. After the huge explosion, Haunter's body turns white for a few moments. The attack does not make Haunter faint, but it brings its HP close to zero.}}
{{movebtmManga|type=normal|user=Black Fog|startcode=ET04|startname=Haunting my Dreams|notes=Debut}}

===In the Pokémon Adventures manga===
{{movemanga|type=normal|exp=yes|gen=The user explodes violently.|image1=Giovanni Golem Explosion Adventures.png|image1p=Golem|image2=Brandon Regirock Explosion Adventures.png|image2p=Regirock|image3=Carr Forretress Explosion.png|image3p=Forretress}}
{{movep|type=normal|ms=076|pkmn=Golem|method=All the rocks on Golem's body explode violently.}}
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Giovanni (Adventures)|user1=Giovanni's Golem|startcode=PS037|startname=Golly, Golem!|notes=Debut}}
{{movep|type=normal|ms=205|pkmn=Forretress|method=Forretress's body glows white and it explodes violently.}}
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Carr|user1=Carr's Forretress|startcode=PS277|startname=A Beastly Cold Reception}}
{{movep|type=normal|ms=377|pkmn=Regirock|method=Regirock's body starts to crack and it suddenly explodes violently.}}
{{movebtmManga|type=normal|user=Brandon's legendary golems#In the Pokémon Adventures manga|user1=Brandon's Regirock|startcode=PS312|startname=VS. Regirock}}

===In the Pocket Monsters Diamond & Pearl manga===
{{movemanga|type=normal|exp=yes|gen=The user explodes violently.|image1=Koffing Explosion 1 PDP.png|image1p=Koffing|image2=Koffing Explosion 2 PDP.png|image2p=Koffing}}
{{movep|type=normal|ms=109|pkmn=Koffing|method=Koffing glows up and then explodes violently.}}
{{movebtmManga|type=normal|user=Koffing (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Koffing|startcode=PDP13|notes=Debut}}

===In the Pokémon Gotta Catch 'Em All manga===
{{movemanga|type=normal|exp=yes|gen=The user explodes violently.|image1=Asuka Koffing Explosion GDZ.png|image1p=Koffing}}
{{movep|type=normal|ms=109|pkmn=Koffing|method=Koffing glows and then explodes violently.}}
{{movebtmManga|type=normal|user=Asuka and Maya|user1=Asuka's Koffing|startcode=GDZ60|notes=Debut}}

===In the Pocket Monsters Platinum: Aim to Be Battle King manga===
{{movemanga|type=normal|exp=yes|gen=The user makes its body blow up.|image1=Yuu Shirogane Bronzong Explosion.png|image1p=Bronzong}}
{{movep|type=normal|ms=437|pkmn=Bronzong|method=Bronzong explodes violently.}}
{{movebtmManga|type=normal|user=Yū Shirogane|user1=Yū's Bronzong|startcode=PBK4|notes=Debut}}

===In the Pokémon Pocket Monsters manga===
{{movemanga|type=normal|exp=yes|gen=The user explodes violently.|image1=Pineco Explosion PM.png|image1p=Pineco}}
{{movep|ms=204|type=normal|pkmn=Pineco|method=Pineco explodes violently.}}
{{movebtmManga|type=normal|user=Pineco (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Pineco|startcode=PM105|startname=Return light to Bellossom!!}}

==In other generations ==
{{Movegen|
type=Normal|
genI=Explosion I|
genII=Explosion II|
genIII=Explosion III|
genIV=Explosion IV|
}}
{{Movegen|
type=Normal|
PMDRB=Explosion PMD RB|
}}
{{Movegen|
type=Normal|
Stad=Explosion Stad|
Stad2=Explosion Stad2|
}}

==Trivia==
* In Generation I, if {{m|Self-Destruct}} or Explosion causes the player to win and lose at the same time, the player [[black out|blacks out]] as normal, but the victory music plays.
* All Pokémon that can have the Ability {{a|Aftermath}} can learn Explosion.
* Self-Destruct and Explosion are the only two damaging moves whose battle animations play out in the main series even if they would miss or have no effect.
* Lickilicky is the only Pokémon capable of learning Explosion to get STAB from it.

==In other languages==
{{Langtable|color={{normal color}}|bordercolor={{normal color dark}}
|zh_cmn=大爆炸 ''{{tt|Dà Bàozhà|Large Explosion}}''
|da=Eksplosion
|nl=Explosie
|fi=Räjähdys
|no=Eksplosjon
|fr=Explosion
|de=Explosion
|el=Έκρηξη
|it=Esplosione
|pt_br=Explosão
|ko=대폭발 ''Dae Pokbal''
|pl=Eksplozja
|sr=Eksplozija
|es=Explosión}}
{{-}}

{{Generation I TMs}}
{{Generation IV TMs}}
{{Generation V TMs}}
{{Generation VI TMs}}
{{-}}
{{Project Moves and Abilities notice}}

[[Category:Moves that cause the user to faint]]

[[de:Explosion]]
[[fr:Explosion]]
[[it:Esplosione (mossa)]]
[[ja:だいばくはつ]]
[[pl:Explosion]]
[[pt:Explosion]]
[[zh:大爆炸（技能）]]

Talk:Farfetch'd (Pokémon)/Generation V learnset

2014-08-14T08:58:16Z

PokeMaster99999: Bunnelby and Diggersby in Gen V Breeding table?

I don't know why, but Bunnelby and Diggersby both appear in Farfetch'd's Breeding table, under the entry for Flail.
Makes no sense, as Bunnelby and Diggersby were introduced in Generation VI, and not Generation V.
I'd have removed them myself, but...the editing code thing for the table seemed a bit more complex than I originally thought. As such, not wanting to screw something up, I decided to just make a mention of it here.
[[User:PokeMaster99999|PokeMaster99999]] ([[User talk:PokeMaster99999|talk]]) 08:58, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

Dragon (type)

2014-05-23T06:21:33Z

PokeMaster99999: /* Trivia */

{{types}}
The '''Dragon type''' (Japanese: '''ドラゴンタイプ''' ''Dragon type'') is one of the eighteen [[type]]s. Notable Trainers who specialize in Dragon-type Pokémon are [[Lance]] of the [[Indigo Plateau]] [[Elite Four]], [[Clair]] of [[Blackthorn City]], {{EF|Drake}} of the [[Hoenn]] Elite Four, [[Iris]] and [[Drayden]] of [[Opelucid City]], and [[Drasna]] of the [[Kalos]] Elite Four. Prior to [[Generation IV#Advances in gameplay|changes in Generation IV]], all Dragon-type moves were [[special move|special]], but they may now also be [[physical move|physical]] depending on the attack.

==Statistical averages==
===Overall===
{{BaseStatNoCat|
type=dragon|
HP=82.43 |
Attack=103.93 |
Defense=83.17 |
SpAtk=87.67 |
SpDef=81.17 |
Speed=79.47 |
Total=517.83 }}

==={{tt|Fully evolved|Considering Giratina's Formes as different Pokémon}}===
{{BaseStatNoCat|
type=dragon|
HP=97.32 |
Attack=116.63 |
Defense=95.53 |
SpAtk=110.00 |
SpDef=98.68 |
Speed=92.11 |
Total=610.26 }}


==Battle properties==
===Generation I===
{{typebattle
|type=Dragon
|weakto1=Dragon
|weakto2=Ice
|resist1=Electric
|resist2=Fire
|resist3=Grass
|resist4=Water
|weaken1=Dragon
}}

===Generation II-V===
{{typebattle
|type=Dragon
|weakto1=Dragon
|weakto2=Ice
|resist1=Electric
|resist2=Fire
|resist3=Grass
|resist4=Water
|weaken1=Dragon
|resisted1=Steel
}}

===Generation VI-onward===
{{typebattle
|type=Dragon
|weakto1=Dragon
|weakto2=Fairy
|weakto3=Ice
|resist1=Electric
|resist2=Fire
|resist3=Grass
|resist4=Water
|noeffect1=Fairy
|weaken1=Dragon
|resisted1=Steel
}}

==Characteristics==
The Dragon type is statistically the best type overall. Many of them do not evolve from their first stage to their second until a [[level]] at which many Pokémon are near their final evolutions, and their final evolution near level 50; {{p|Zweilous}} evolves into {{p|Hydreigon}} at level 64, the latest of any Pokémon.

===Offense===
Most Dragon-type Pokémon have high {{stat|Attack}} and {{stat|Special Attack}} and are further blessed with wide movepools to complement this. Even though Dragon-type moves are only [[Damage modification#super effective|super effective]] against Dragon-type Pokémon, the only two types that resist Dragon are {{t|Steel}} and {{t|Fairy}}, with Fairy types being completely immune to Dragon attacks. This gives Dragon-type Pokémon good use of their [[Same-type attack bonus|STAB]]. However, because of Dragon-type Pokémon's wide movepools, they still have some ability to counter Fairy types.

===Defense===
Defensively, they have resistances to Electric, Grass, Water and Fire. However, many fully-[[Evolution|evolved]], non-{{pkmn2|legendary}} Dragon-type Pokémon have a double weakness to {{type|Ice}} moves, due to their secondary [[type]]s. Dragon is the only type resistant to all types of starter Pokémon, including [[Electric]]. Their weakness to themselves and [[Fairy]] is balanced by the fact that few Pokémon can learn Fairy-type moves in the first place.

===Contest properties===
When used in Contests, Dragon-type moves typically become [[Cool Contest|Cool]] moves, but some may be [[Smart Contest|Smart]] or [[Tough Contest|Tough]] moves.

==Pokémon==
As of Generation VI, there are 40 Dragon-type Pokémon or 5.4% of all Pokémon (counting [[Form differences|forms]] and [[Mega Evolution]]s that change typing as different Pokémon), making it the 4th rarest type.

===Pure Dragon-type Pokémon===
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; background: #{{dragon color light}}; border: 5px solid #{{dragon color}};"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" class="sortable" style="margin:auto; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #{{dragon color light}}; border-collapse:collapse;"
|-style="background: #{{dragon color light}};"
! #
!
! Name
|-
|147
|{{MSP|147|Dratini}}
|{{p|Dratini}}
|-
|148
|{{MSP|148|Dragonair}}
|{{p|Dragonair}}
|-
|371
|{{MSP|371|Bagon}}
|{{p|Bagon}}
|-
|372
|{{MSP|372|Shelgon}}
|{{p|Shelgon}}
|-
|610
|{{MSP|610|Axew}}
|{{p|Axew}}
|-
|611
|{{MSP|611|Fraxure}}
|{{p|Fraxure}}
|-
|612
|{{MSP|612|Haxorus}}
|{{p|Haxorus}}
|-
|621
|{{MSP|621|Druddigon}}
|{{p|Druddigon}}
|-
|704
|{{MSP|704|Goomy}}
|{{p|Goomy}}
|-
|705
|{{MSP|705|Sliggoo}}
|{{p|Sliggoo}}
|-
|706
|{{MSP|706|Goodra}}
|{{p|Goodra}}
|}
|}

===Half Dragon-type Pokémon===
====Primary Dragon-type Pokémon====
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; background: #{{dragon color light}}; border: 5px solid #{{dragon color}};"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" class="sortable" style="margin:auto; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #{{dragon color light}}; border-collapse:collapse;"
|-style="background: #{{dragon color light}};"
! #
!
! Name
! Type 1
! Type 2
|-
|149
|{{MSP|149|Dragonite}}
|{{p|Dragonite}}
{{typetable|Dragon}}
{{typetable|Flying}}
|-
|334
|{{MSP|334|Altaria}}
|{{p|Altaria}}
{{typetable|Dragon}}
{{typetable|Flying}}
|-
|373
|{{MSP|373|Salamence}}
|{{p|Salamence}}
{{typetable|Dragon}}
{{typetable|Flying}}
|-
|380
|{{MSP|380|Latias}}
|{{p|Latias}}
{{typetable|Dragon}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
|-
|380
|{{MSP|380|Latias}}
|{{p|Latias|Mega Latias}}
{{typetable|Dragon}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
|-
|381
|{{MSP|381|Latios}}
|{{p|Latios}}
{{typetable|Dragon}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
|-
|381
|{{MSP|381|Latios}}
|{{p|Latios|Mega Latios}}
{{typetable|Dragon}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
|-
|384
|{{MSP|384|Rayquaza}}
|{{p|Rayquaza}}
{{typetable|Dragon}}
{{typetable|Flying}}
|-
|443
|{{MSP|443|Gible}}
|{{p|Gible}}
{{typetable|Dragon}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
|-
|444
|{{MSP|444|Gabite}}
|{{p|Gabite}}
{{typetable|Dragon}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
|-
|445
|{{MSP|445|Garchomp}}
|{{p|Garchomp}}
{{typetable|Dragon}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
|-
|445
|{{MSP|445M|Garchomp}}
|{{p|Garchomp|Mega Garchomp}}
{{typetable|Dragon}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
|-
|643
|{{MSP|643|Reshiram}}
|{{p|Reshiram}}
{{typetable|Dragon}}
{{typetable|Fire}}
|-
|644
|{{MSP|644|Zekrom}}
|{{p|Zekrom}}
{{typetable|Dragon}}
{{typetable|Electric}}
|-
| rowspan="3" |646
|{{MSP|646|Kyurem}}
| rowspan="3" |{{p|Kyurem}}
{{typetable|Dragon}}
{{typetable|Ice}}
|-
|{{MSP|646B|Kyurem}}
{{typetable|Dragon}}
{{typetable|Ice}}
|-
|{{MSP|646W|Kyurem}}
{{typetable|Dragon}}
{{typetable|Ice}}
|-
|718
|{{MSP|718|Zygarde}}
|{{p|Zygarde}}
{{typetable|Dragon}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
|}
|}

====Secondary Dragon-type Pokémon====
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; background: #{{dragon color light}}; border: 5px solid #{{dragon color}};"
|-
|
{| border=1 width="100%" class="sortable" style="margin:auto; background: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #{{dragon color light}}; border-collapse:collapse;"
|-style="background: #{{dragon color light}};"
! #
!
! Name
! Type 1
! Type 2
|-
|006
|{{MSP|006|Charizard}}
|{{p|Charizard|Mega Charizard X}}
{{typetable|Fire}}
{{typetable|Dragon}}
|-
|181
|{{MSP|181M|Ampharos}}
|{{p|Ampharos|Mega Ampharos}}
{{typetable|Electric}}
{{typetable|Dragon}}
|-
|230
|{{MSP|230|Kingdra}}
|{{p|Kingdra}}
{{typetable|Water}}
{{typetable|Dragon}}
|-
|329
|{{MSP|329|Vibrava}}
|{{p|Vibrava}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
{{typetable|Dragon}}
|-
|330
|{{MSP|330|Flygon}}
|{{p|Flygon}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
{{typetable|Dragon}}
|-
|483
|{{MSP|483|Dialga}}
|{{p|Dialga}}
{{typetable|Steel}}
{{typetable|Dragon}}
|-
|484
|{{MSP|484|Palkia}}
|{{p|Palkia}}
{{typetable|Water}}
{{typetable|Dragon}}
|-
| rowspan="2" |487
|{{MSP|487|Giratina}}
| rowspan="2" |{{p|Giratina}}
{{typetable|Ghost}}
{{typetable|Dragon}}
|-
|{{MSP|487O|Giratina}}
{{typetable|Ghost}}
{{typetable|Dragon}}
|-
|633
|{{MSP|633|Deino}}
|{{p|Deino}}
{{typetable|Dark}}
{{typetable|Dragon}}
|-
|634
|{{MSP|634|Zweilous}}
|{{p|Zweilous}}
{{typetable|Dark}}
{{typetable|Dragon}}
|-
|635
|{{MSP|635|Hydreigon}}
|{{p|Hydreigon}}
{{typetable|Dark}}
{{typetable|Dragon}}
|-
|691
|{{MSP|691|Dragalge}}
|{{p|Dragalge}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
{{typetable|Dragon}}
|-
|696
|{{MSP|696|Tyrunt}}
|{{p|Tyrunt}}
{{typetable|Rock}}
{{typetable|Dragon}}
|-
|697
|{{MSP|697|Tyrantrum}}
|{{p|Tyrantrum}}
{{typetable|Rock}}
{{typetable|Dragon}}
|-
|714
|{{MSP|714|Noibat}}
|{{p|Noibat}}
{{typetable|Flying}}
{{typetable|Dragon}}
|-
|715
|{{MSP|715|Noivern}}
|{{p|Noivern}}
{{typetable|Flying}}
{{typetable|Dragon}}
|}
|}

==Moves==
{{movelist/battle-head|Dragon}}
{{movelist/battle|4|Draco Meteor|Special|Smart|130|90|5|anyadjacent|Comets are summoned down from the sky onto the target. The attack's recoil harshly reduces the user's Sp. Atk stat.}}
{{movelist/battle|2|Dragon Breath|Special|Cool|60|100|20|anyadjacent|The user exhales a mighty gust that inflicts damage. It may also leave the target with paralysis.}}
{{movelist/battle|3|Dragon Claw|Physical|Cool|80|100|15|anyadjacent|The user slashes the target with huge, sharp claws.}}
{{movelist/battle|3|Dragon Dance|Status|Cool|—|—|20|self|The user vigorously performs a mystic, powerful dance that boosts its Attack and Speed stats.}}
{{movelist/battle|4|Dragon Pulse|Special|Smart|85|100|10|any|The target is attacked with a shock wave generated by the user's gaping mouth.}}
{{movelist/battle|1|Dragon Rage|Special|Cool|—|100|10|anyadjacent|This attack hits the target with a shock wave of pure rage. This attack always inflicts 40 HP damage.}}
{{movelist/battle|4|Dragon Rush|Physical|Cool|100|75|10|anyadjacent|The user tackles the target while exhibiting overwhelming menace. It may also make the target flinch.}}
{{movelist/battle|5|Dragon Tail|Physical||60|90|10|anyadjacent|The user knocks away the target and drags out another Pokémon in its party. In the wild, the battle ends.}}
{{movelist/battle|5|Dual Chop|Physical||40|90|15|anyadjacent|The user attacks its target by hitting it with brutal strikes. The target is hit twice in a row.}}
{{movelist/battle|2|Outrage|Physical|Cool|120|100|10|adjacentfoe|The user rampages and attacks for two to three turns. It then becomes confused, however.}}
{{movelist/battle|4|Roar of Time|Special|Cool|150|90|5|anyadjacent|The user blasts the target with power that distorts even time. The user must rest on the next turn.}}
{{movelist/battle|4|Spacial Rend|Special|Tough|100|95|5|anyadjacent|The user tears the target along with the space around it. Critical hits land more easily.}}
{{movelist/battle|2|Twister|Special|Cool|40|100|20|adjacentfoes|The user whips up a vicious tornado to tear at the opposing team. It may also make targets flinch.}}
{{movelist/battle-foot|Dragon}}

==Abilities==
===Interacting with Dragon-type===
User of {{a|Color Change}} will be changed into Dragon-type after it is hit with a Dragon-type move. {{a|Protean}} will change its user into Dragon-type when it uses a Dragon-type move. When a Pokémon with {{a|Multitype}} holds a [[Draco Plate]], it will become a Dragon-type Pokémon. When a Pokémon with {{a|Imposter}} is sent out and its opposite opponent is Dragon-type, it will transform into that Pokémon and turn into Dragon-type.

===Exclusive Abilities===
Only Dragon-type Pokémon can have these Abilities. Not include [[Signature Ability|signature Abilities]]

==Trivia==
* Generation V introduced the most Dragon-type Pokémon of any generation, with 10, and Generation II introduced the fewest Dragon-type Pokémon, with only {{p|Kingdra|one}}.
* Generation IV introduced the most Dragon-type moves of any generation, with five, and Generation VI did not introduce any Dragon-type moves.
* In [[Generation I]], there was no way to do super-effective Dragon-type damage, since the then-only Dragon-type attack, {{m|Dragon Rage}}, always deals 40 HP of damage.
** Also, for the same reasons, there was no way to get [[STAB]] from a Dragon-type move in Generation I.
* [[Sinnoh]] is the only region without a notable Dragon-type specialist.
* There are only thirteen Dragon-type moves, the fewest of any type.
** The Dragon type also has the fewest number of non-damaging moves out of all of the types, with only one, {{m|Dragon Dance}}.
* From Generations II to V, Dragon-type moves were only resisted by the {{t|Steel}}-type, making it the only type of move that was not resisted by at least two types of Pokémon. This changed with the introduction of the {{t|Fairy}}-type.
** Also, in [[Generation I]], no type resisted the Dragon-type, making it the only type to ever have this distinction.
***However, there were no Dragon-type moves that utilised the standard damage formula in [[Generation I]], making this a moot point.
* In Generation III, all Dragon-type moves were [[Cool Contest|Cool]] moves.
* The average fully evolved stat of the Dragon type never goes below base 90.
** However, this can be attributed to the fact that a large portion of Dragon-type Pokémon are Legendary or Pseudo-Legendary.
* Dragon-type moves are tied with the {{t|Water}} type for having the most [[held item]]s that boost their power: {{DL|Plate|Draco Plate}}, {{DL|Type-enhancing item|Dragon Fang}}, {{DL|Gem|Dragon Gem}}, and all three [[timespace orbs]].
* The Dragon type resists all three of the traditional primary types of core series [[starter Pokémon]]: {{t|Grass}}, {{t|Fire}} and {{t|Water}}.
** In addition, it resists {{t|Electric}}, which was the type of the player's starter in {{g|Yellow}}.

==In other languages==
{{langtable
|color={{dragon color}}|bordercolor={{dragon color light}}
|zh_cmn=龍 / 龙 ''Lóng''
|nl=Draak
|fi=Lohikäärme
|fr=Dragon
|da=Drage
|de=Drache
|el=Δράκου ''Drakou''
|he=דרקון ''Dracon''
|id=Naga Dragon
|it=Drago
|ja=ドラゴン ''Dragon''
|ko=드래곤 ''Dragon''
|no=Drage
|pl=Smok Smoczy
|pt=Dragão
|es=Dragón
|sv=Drake
|ro=Dragon
|ru=Драконий ''Draconiyi''
|th=มังกร
}}

[[de:Drache (Typ)]]
[[es:Tipo Dragón]]
[[fr:Dragon]]
[[it:Drago (tipo)]]
[[ja:ドラゴン]]
[[pt:Tipo Dragon]]
[[zh:龙（属性）]]

Talk:Sky Attack (move)

2014-05-12T18:06:22Z

PokeMaster99999: /* High Critical-hit ratio */ new section

==Signature move==
As far as i could tell from the signature moves page, it counted all methods of learning the move. So since sky attack was a TM in gen 1 i dont think it was moltres signature move, since 8+ other pokemon could learn it. That also makes it not work for gen 2 because of the ability to move pokemon over. {{unsigned|Gardeford}}
:It was a signature move only in Generation II. Connecting to a previous Generation isn't considered for signature moves. [[User:Glik|Glik]] ([[User talk:Glik|talk]]) 18:17, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

==Farfetch'd==
The Farfetch'd page says he learns the move as well via TM... Can anyone add that information, or confirm it at the very least? [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 08:53, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
:Um... no it doesn't. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:03, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
::Fourteenth row down: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Farfetch%27d_(Pok%C3%A9mon)/Generation_I_learnset#By_TM.2FHM [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 09:06, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
:::Three other sites say no. It's been removed. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:23, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

== Lugia ==
Lugia can learn Sky Attack at Lv. 99, yet I don't see Lugia on the Page under "By level up"
[[User:Truthseeker4449|Truthseeker4449]] 20:08, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
:Fixed. Looks like it was accidentally removed during the (ongoing) template upgrade. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 22:08, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

== High Critical-hit ratio ==

Can anyone confirm that Sky Attack still lacks a high critical-hit chance? I'm pretty sure I've seen it get ''WAY'' too many crits for a 'normal' move...that just may be me being unlucky, but the 'information' is still pretty old.
So in general, I'd like that Trivia statement checked for two reasons:
1. It's old information (I swear it's been unchanged for ''years'')
2. Personal experience of it getting more crits than normal.
[[User:PokeMaster99999|PokeMaster99999]] ([[User talk:PokeMaster99999|talk]]) 18:06, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

Talk:Light of Ruin (move)

2014-04-20T00:46:28Z

PokeMaster99999: /* Page Creation? */ new section

I think that this page should be protected, because of the fact that it sometimes appears in the Hotel Richissime but we don't know what it does and a lot of people are speculating about it. Of course, nobody has tried to make the page on Bulbapedia, so I understand if it isn't protected. ^^ [[User:EpicDeino|EpicDeino]] ([[User talk:EpicDeino|talk]]) 15:43, 15 December 2013 (UTC)
:Unnecessary protecting is unnecessary. Unless there is a huge problem with people trying to create the page, it doesn't need to be protected. ☆[[User:Solar Dragon|The]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|Solar]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|Dragon]]☆ 15:52, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

== Page Creation? ==

Should the "Light of Ruin" page be created? Its power, accuracy, PP, type and secondary effect have already been leaked (140, 90, 5, Fairy, recoil equal to half damage dealt, respectively), along with distribution ("Eternal Flower" Floette). All that's missing is images, and many XY moves are still imageless, so this doesn't matter so much. [[User:PokeMaster99999|PokeMaster99999]] ([[User talk:PokeMaster99999|talk]]) 00:46, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

Talk:Battle CD

2014-04-19T12:43:19Z

PokeMaster99999:

Uh... the comment about the Sacred Ash (''Once all 50 Battle CDs have been defeated, the player receives the Sacred Ash. '') is inaccurate. You get the Sacred Ash from a specific CD, not from completing them all. [[User:Fishman|Fishman]] 00:14, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

== [[Battle CD]] vs. [[Battle CDs]] ==
For some odd reason, we've got two articles that are basically the same thing. It's obvious we're going to have to merge them, but the questions are how the information's going to be merged and where the merged article's title should be...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 18:00, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
:Is there a template that suggests that an article should be merged with another? That'd be useful[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|Maniac]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|102]] 22:58, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
::No there isn't... let TTE decide.[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|Maniac]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|102]] 23:04, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

::::...there are other admins yknow [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 23:11, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::Yea but if we were to wait for the others, it would probably be ages.[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|Maniac]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|102]] 23:11, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
::::::Sigh....Theryguy512 to the rescue to alert an admin...--'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 23:18, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::::How cliché.........lol........[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|Maniac]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|102]] 23:18, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
::::::::I pick....Sketchies. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 23:20, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

== The "Unknowns" in the CD profiles ==

The CD profiles still appear to have "unknown" in their profiles, and experiments would need to be done to figure them out. For example I experimented Battle CD 16, when {{p|Misdreavus}} used {{m|Confuse Ray}} to test {{p|Slowking}}'s ability, it confused it, revealing it indeed has {{a|Oblivious}} and not {{a|Own Tempo}}. [[User:Pikachu25|Pikachu25]] 15:33, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

== Battle CD Guide ==

I was wondering, why not add a walkthrough for each Battle CD? I can help with some, since I recently finished all 50 Battle CDs (Latios and Latias Side B took me ages).
[[User:8o8 Dark|-- 8o8 Dark]] 17:43, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
:I started compiling the in-game advice (what the receptionist tells you if you lose) and have most up through 35 currently. Missing 6, 10, 12, 14, 15, 18, 21, 22, 24, 29, 31, 33, 34 and 36-50. There's not currently a designated spot for them but there could be in the future... Anyway, I think these would be nice but an actual walkthrough would go against policy. [[User:Dragoness|Dragoness]] 10:13, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
::Well, it wouldn't be against policy if it were in the appendix namespace as part of {{bp|Project Walkthroughs}}. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 10:22, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

== BCD Template ==

Well, I tried. Was going to just take a break at 25, but it kind of broke the page... Maybe it'll be better if I complete it, I dunno. [[User:Dragoness/Battle CD]] Here for now. [[User:Dragoness|Dragoness]] 09:36, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
:I tried manually coding the templates within templates to reduce the number of templates used, but it didn't help anywhere near enough. I think this page is going to have to be broken up into multiple subpages (20-40 at a time?). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 10:11, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
::It looks like 25 will fit on one page, so maybe just split it in half? [[User:Dragoness|Dragoness]] 10:14, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
:::Yeah, I suggest {{redlink|Battle CD/CDs 1-25}} and {{redlink|Battle CD/CDs 26-50}} or {{redlink|Battle CD/1-25}} and {{redlink|Battle CD/26-50}}. This page would be kept with all the general info, while the CDs themselves would go on those pages. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 10:22, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
::::Alright, I'll try that tomorrow. On a related note, I noticed the auto-formatting screwed up for some of the prizes... I don't really know how to get around that or if that requires a template change or what? 21 and 25 are the ones having problems. One's a TM and the other is a multiple. [[User:Dragoness|Dragoness]] 10:28, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
:::::I don't see that formatting problem. Can you be more specific about what the problem is? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 10:34, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
::::::I meant 24 not 25 oops. Anyway, for 21, the icon shows up as a red link, since Focus Punch doesn't have its own designated icon, and for 24, there is no item called "Lum Berry x5" so neither part works there. I tried changing Focus Punch to TM01 and that didn't work either. [[User:Dragoness|Dragoness]] 10:39, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
:::::::Oh, you meant on your page, not this one (I wasn't thinking). I fixed them for you. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:04, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
::::::::Sweet, thanks. [[User:Dragoness|Dragoness]] 22:26, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

== Outdated Trivia ==
..."This makes them the only Pokémon with variable shiny status that cannot be caught, as the shiny Pokémon found inside of [[Trainer Tower]] are always shiny."
:That's untrue because a Trainer's Pokémon fought in [[Pokémon Battle Revolution]]'s single player also has a small chance (presumably the same 1/8192?) of being shiny. (I couldn't remove that part of the Trivia because this article is currently locked.) --[[User:Chickasaurus|Chickasaurus]] 11:19, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
::Done. Hasn't that been outdated since Emerald anyway? I know you could find shinies in the Battle Pyramid. [[User:Blazios|Blazios]] 11:23, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
:::Yeah that's true. At least since {{2v2|Ruby|Sapphire}} if you're unlucky enough to fight a shiny {{p|Poochyena}} in [[Professor Birch]]'s battle mode. Maybe since [[Generation II]] and [[Pokémon Stadium 2]] / {{game|Crystal}}'s [[Battle Tower]] too... --[[User:Chickasaurus|Chickasaurus]] 11:47, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

== Battle CD 51-60? ==

How come there's a link to Battle CDs 51-60? I know there's only 50 CDs in the game, and even the page itself says this. [[User:PokeMaster99999|PokeMaster99999]] ([[User talk:PokeMaster99999|talk]]) 03:12, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
:They're "in the game", just not "available"... [[User:Vuvuzela2010/Battle CDs 51-60|It looks like]] we haven't gotten all the data for them so far. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:38, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
::Wait...aren't those the Battle Sims available at the Pokémon HQ Lab? As in, the tutorial ones located in the same Battle Sim system where you battle with a Salamence against a Metagross at the beginning off the game?
::So now I know how those matches are stored on the disk... Just makes me question why they would be added to this collection of pages, as I don't think it'd be very useful, or necessary. [[User:PokeMaster99999|PokeMaster99999]] ([[User talk:PokeMaster99999|talk]]) 12:43, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

Talk:Justy

2014-04-18T08:07:48Z

PokeMaster99999: /* Pokémon XD Prize */ new section

He gave me the TM for Double Team in XD, not Return. {{unsigned|Kimori-Hinoarashi}}

== Pokémon XD Prize ==

OK, a few things:
1. Shouldn't the formatting be fixed? For me, the formatting for the Prize is off, most likely due to the addition of the TM, which is unlike other Trainers that give out TMs upon defeat (e.g. Gym Leaders).

Example: http://i.imgur.com/Viach65.png against http://i.imgur.com/vnzGbU1.png

As such, the TM should be removed from the "Battle Info box", as it is already in the top section.

2. Justy also hands out a Lum Berry upon defeat; this is not pointed out anywhere in the article, at least not that I can see. This should be mentioned alongside the TM32 (Double Team) that he gives the player.
[[User:PokeMaster99999|PokeMaster99999]] ([[User talk:PokeMaster99999|talk]]) 08:07, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

Talk:Battle CD

2014-04-18T03:12:55Z

PokeMaster99999: /* Battle CD 51-60? */ new section

Whismur (Pokémon)/Generation V learnset

2014-04-15T08:17:08Z

PokeMaster99999: /* By {{pkmn|breeding}} */ Fake Tears has a 'Power' rating of 40? Since when could Fake Tears do damage?

{{pokelinkback|293|Whismur|5}}
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{learnlist/levelh|Whismur|Normal|Normal|5|3}}
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Pound|Normal|Physical|40|100|35||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|5|Uproar|Normal|Special|90|100|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|11|Astonish|Ghost|Physical|30|100|15}}
{{learnlist/level5|15|Howl|Normal|Status|—|—|40}}
{{learnlist/level5|21|Supersonic|Normal|Status|—|55|20}}
{{learnlist/level5|25|Stomp|Normal|Physical|65|100|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|31|Screech|Normal|Status|—|85|40}}
{{learnlist/level5|35|Roar|Normal|Status|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/level5|41|Synchronoise|Psychic|Special|70|100|15}}
{{learnlist/level5|45|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/level5|45|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/level5|51|Hyper Voice|Normal|Special|90|100|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/levelf|Whismur|Normal|Normal|5|3}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{learnlist/tmh|Whismur|Normal|Normal|5|3}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM05|Roar|Normal|Status|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM06|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|90|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM10|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|—|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM11|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|—|—|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM13|Ice Beam|Ice|Special|95|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM14|Blizzard|Ice|Special|120|70|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM17|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM18|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM21|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM22|SolarBeam|Grass|Special|120|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM27|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM30|Shadow Ball|Ghost|Special|80|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM32|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM35|Flamethrower|Fire|Special|95|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM38|Fire Blast|Fire|Special|120|85|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM42|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM44|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM45|Attract|Normal|Status|—|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM48|Round|Normal|Special|60|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM49|Echoed Voice|Normal|Special|40|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM56|Fling|Dark|Physical|—|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM59|Incinerate|Fire|Special|30|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM67|Retaliate|Normal|Physical|70|100|5||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM83|Work Up|Normal|Status|—|—|30}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM87|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM90|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tmf|Whismur|Normal|Normal|5|3}}

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
{{learnlist/breedh|Whismur|Normal|Normal|5|3}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|427|Buneary}}{{MSP|428|Lopunny}}{{MSP|448|Lucario}}|Circle Throw|Fighting|Physical|60|90|10|||*}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|019|Rattata}}{{MSP|020|Raticate}}{{MSP|104|Cubone}}{{MSP|105|Marowak}}{{MSP|206|Dunsparce}}{{MSP|258|Mudkip}} {{MSP|259|Marshtomp}}{{MSP|260|Swampert}}{{MSP|409|Rampardos}}{{MSP|527|Woobat}}{{MSP|528|Swoobat}}|Endeavor|Normal|Physical|—|100|5}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|037|Vulpix}}{{MSP|038|Ninetales}}{{MSP|274|Nuzleaf}}{{MSP|275|Shiftry}}|Extrasensory|Psychic|Special|80|100|30}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|216|Teddiursa}}{{MSP|217|Ursaring}}{{MSP|303|Mawile}}{{MSP|570|Zorua}}{{MSP|571|Zoroark}}|Fake Tears|Dark|Status|—|100|15}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|112|Rhydon}}{{MSP|464|Rhyperior}}{{MSP|217|Ursaring}}{{MSP|260|Swampert}}{{MSP|289|Slaking}}{{MSP|500|Emboar}}{{MSP|555|Darmanitan}}|Hammer Arm|Fighting|Physical|100|90|10}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|056|Mankey}}{{MSP|057|Primeape}}{{MSP|108|Lickitung}}{{MSP|463|Lickilicky}}{{MSP|209|Snubbull}}{{MSP|210|Granbull}} {{MSP|255|Torchic}}{{MSP|256|Combusken}}{{MSP|257|Blaziken}}{{MSP|304|Aron}}{{MSP|305|Lairon}}{{MSP|306|Aggron}} {{MSP|327|Spinda}}{{MSP|619|Mienfoo}}{{MSP|620|Mienshao}}|SmellingSalt|Normal|Physical|60|100|10|||*|'''}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|004|Charmander}}{{MSP|005|Charmeleon}}{{MSP|006|Charizard}}{{MSP|155|Cyndaquil}}{{MSP|156|Quilava}}{{MSP|157|Typhlosion}} {{MSP|324|Torkoal}}{{MSP|434|Stunky}}{{MSP|435|Skuntank}}|SmokeScreen|Normal|Status|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|143|Snorlax}}{{MSP|216|Teddiursa}}{{MSP|217|Ursaring}}{{MSP|325|Spoink}}{{MSP|326|Grumpig}}{{MSP|363|Spheal}} {{MSP|364|Sealeo}}{{MSP|365|Walrein}}|Snore|Normal|Special|40|100|15||||'''}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|001|Bulbasaur}}{{MSP|002|Ivysaur}}{{MSP|003|Venusaur}}{{MSP|058|Growlithe}}{{MSP|059|Arcanine}}{{MSP|077|Ponyta}} {{MSP|078|Rapidash}}{{MSP|086|Seel}}{{MSP|087|Dewgong}}{{MSP|111|Rhyhorn}}{{MSP|112|Rhydon}}{{MSP|464|Rhyperior}} {{MSP|128|Tauros}}{{MSP|133|Eevee}}{{MSP|134|Vaporeon}}{{MSP|135|Jolteon}}{{MSP|136|Flareon}}{{MSP|196|Espeon}} {{MSP|197|Umbreon}}{{MSP|470|Leafeon}}{{MSP|471|Glaceon}}{{MSP|206|Dunsparce}}{{MSP|209|Snubbull}}{{MSP|210|Granbull}} {{MSP|220|Swinub}}{{MSP|221|Piloswine}}{{MSP|473|Mamoswine}}{{MSP|231|Phanpy}}{{MSP|232|Donphan}}{{MSP|234|Stantler}} {{MSP|258|Mudkip}}{{MSP|259|Marshtomp}}{{MSP|260|Swampert}}{{MSP|261|Poochyena}}{{MSP|262|Mightyena}}{{MSP|304|Aron}} {{MSP|305|Lairon}}{{MSP|306|Aggron}}{{MSP|322|Numel}}{{MSP|323|Camerupt}}{{MSP|399|Bidoof}}{{MSP|400|Bibarel}} {{MSP|408|Cranidos}}{{MSP|409|Rampardos}}{{MSP|410|Shieldon}}{{MSP|411|Bastiodon}}{{MSP|443|Gible}}{{MSP|444|Gabite}} {{MSP|445|Garchomp}}{{MSP|449|Hippopotas}}{{MSP|450|Hippowdon}}{{MSP|498|Tepig}}{{MSP|499|Pignite}}{{MSP|500|Emboar}} {{MSP|506|Lillipup}}{{MSP|507|Herdier}}{{MSP|508|Stoutland}}{{MSP|585|Deerling}}{{MSP|586|Sawsbuck}}|Take Down|Normal|Physical|90|85|20||||'''}}
{{learnlist/breedf|Whismur|Normal|Normal|5|3}}

====By [[Move Tutor|tutoring]]====
{{learnlist/tutorh|Whismur|normal|normal|5|3}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Endeavor|Normal|Physical|—|100|5|||no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Fire Punch|Fire|Physical|75|100|15|||no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Hyper Voice|Normal|Special|90|100|10||'''|no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Ice Punch|Ice|Physical|75|100|15|||no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10|||no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Snore|Normal|Special|40|100|15||'''|no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|ThunderPunch|Electric|Physical|75|100|15|||no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Uproar|Normal|Special|90|100|10||'''|no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Zen Headbutt|Psychic|Physical|80|90|15|||no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutorf|Whismur|normal|normal|5|3}}

===={{pkmn|Dream World}} moves====
{{learnlist/eventh|Whismur|normal|normal|5|3}}
{{learnlist/event5|{{dwa|Icy Cave}}|Zen Headbutt|Psychic|Physical|80|90|15}}
{{learnlist/event5|{{dwa|Icy Cave}}|Endeavor|Normal|Physical|—|100|5}}
{{learnlist/eventf|Whismur|normal|normal|5|3}}

Talk:Barry (game)/Diamond and Pearl

2014-03-29T21:54:10Z

PokeMaster99999: /* Hacked Starly? */ new section

A lot of these are very wrong and incomplete. This page needs help :( [[User:Malake256|WeavilePwns]] 15:42, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

==....?==
Why is this a seperate page from Barry's article? I didn't move it back because I figured there was something, but... could someone explain? [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] 21:44, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

==Minor addition==
I had added Metal Claw and Swagger to Empoleon's moveset for the Spear Pillar fight as it used those attacks and they weren't listed on the moveset. [[User:zdude0127|zdude0127]] 18:20, April 17 2013

== Hacked Starly? ==

In the first fight against Barry, which takes place on Route 203, he uses a Lv 7 Starly with Wing Attack. The fact that he's got a Starly isn't the problem; it's the fact that he's got a Lv 7 one with Wing Attack, which Starly doesn't learn until Lv 9.
I know this isn't "important" or anything; just pointing out that Barry either has a hacked Starly, or he hatched it from an Egg despite not having access to Solaceon Town yet. [[User:PokeMaster99999|PokeMaster99999]] ([[User talk:PokeMaster99999|talk]]) 21:54, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

Opelucid Gym

2013-12-06T08:55:48Z

PokeMaster99999: /* Trivia */ Just something weird/interesting I noticed while looking up Iris' team for my current White run-through.

{{GymInfobox
|name=Opelucid
|characters=ソウリュウ
|japanese=Soryu
|image=Opelucid Gym anime.png
|location=Opelucid City
|leader=[[Drayden]]{{sup/5|B}}{{sup/5|B2W2}} [[Iris]]{{sup/5|W}}
|badge=Legend Badge
|type=Dragon
|region=Unova
|battlefield=Opelucid Gym field.png
|colordark=555555
|colorlight=999999
}}
The '''Opelucid Gym''' (Japanese: '''ソウリュウジム''' ''Soryu Gym'') is the official [[Gym]] of [[Opelucid City]]. The Gym specializes in {{type|Dragon}} {{OBP|Pokémon|species}}. The [[Gym Leader]] the player battles is dependent on the version being played. In [[Pokémon Black and White Versions|Pokémon Black]], {{2v2|Black|White|2}}, the player will battle [[Drayden]] and in [[Pokémon Black and White Versions|Pokémon White]], the player will battle [[Iris]]. {{pkmn|Trainer}}s who defeat them receive the {{Badge|Legend}}.

==In the games==
{|
|-
| style="vertical-align:top" |
{{sign|bwbuilding|Opelucid City Pokémon Gym Leader: Drayden|"The Spartan Mayor"}}
| style="vertical-align:top" |
{{sign|bwbuilding|Opelucid City Pokémon Gym Leader: Iris|"The Girl Who Knows the Hearts of Dragons"}}
|}{{left clear}}
The Opelucid Gym is designed like a thin maze, with switches to open up the correct path. These switches cause dragon statues' heads to move, creating new paths for the player. After the switches have been hit in the right order, the path will lead the player to the Leader.
[[File:Opelucid Gym Drayden BW.png|thumb|right|Opelucid Gym in Black and White]]

Clyde tells the player about the mechanics of the maze, although he says there are only two dragons, when there are actually three.

In the two years between Black and White and Black 2 and White 2, the Opelucid Gym was remodeled to hide the {{key|V|DNA Splicers}}; signs of construction can still be seen around the Gym.

In {{2v2|Black|White|2}}, the Gym features a white{{sup/5|B2}}/black{{sup/5|W2}} dragon vertically on a wall and a black{{sup/5|B2}}/white{{sup/5|W2}} dragon which the player can control to move to a certain position by stepping on the buttons appearing on its head. The Trainers of the Gym are on four different levels; the player must defeat at least one Trainer from each level to be able to proceed to the next level. On the topmost level, the player will meet Drayden. The DNA Splicers are hidden within the Gym; because of this, [[Team Plasma]] froze Opelucid City.

===Trainers===
===={{game|Black and White|s}}====
{{Trainerheader|Dragon}}
{{Trainerentry|Spr BW Ace Trainer M.png|Ace Trainer|Webster|2460|1|611|Fraxure|♂|41|None|36=ユウジ|37=Yūji}}
{{Trainerdiv|Dragon}}
{{Trainerentry|Spr BW Ace Trainer F.png|Ace Trainer|Olwen|2460|1|633|Deino|♀|41|None|36=マドカ|37=Madoka}}
{{Trainerdiv|Dragon}}
{{Trainerentry|Spr BW Ace Trainer M.png|Ace Trainer|Jose|2400|2|611|Fraxure|♂|40|None|611|Fraxure|♂|40|None|36=エイジ|37=Eiji}}
{{Trainerdiv|Dragon}}
{{Trainerentry|Spr BW Ace Trainer F.png|Ace Trainer|Clara|2460|1|611|Fraxure|♀|41|None|36=クレア|37=Claire}}
{{Trainerdiv|Dragon}}
{{Trainerentry|Spr BW Veteran M.png|Veteran|Hugo|3360|1|621|Druddigon|♂|42|None|36=ユウゴ|37=Yūgo}}
{{Trainerdiv|Dragon}}
{{Trainerentry|Spr BW Ace Trainer M.png|Ace Trainer|Tom|2340|3|633|Deino|♂|39|None|611|Fraxure|♂|39|None|621|Druddigon|♂|39|None|36=ケント|37=Kent}}
{{Trainerdiv|Dragon}}
{{Trainerentry|Spr BW Ace Trainer F.png|Ace Trainer|Dara|2400|2|633|Deino|♀|40|None|621|Druddigon|♀|40|None|36=ユウカ|37=Yūka}}
{{Trainerdiv|Dragon}}
{{Trainerentry|Spr BW Veteran F.png|Veteran|Kim|3280|2|611|Fraxure|♀|40|None|611|Fraxure|♀|41|None|36=キム|37=Kim}}
{{Trainerfooter|Dragon|1}}

====={{game|Black and White|s|Black}}=====
{{Party
|color={{dragon color}}
|bordercolor={{dragon color dark}}
|headcolor={{dragon color light}}
|sprite=Spr BW Drayden.png
|prize={{PDollar}}5160
|class=Leader
|name={{color2|000|Drayden}}
|game=Bl
|location=Opelucid Gym
|pokemon=3
|pokemon1={{Pokémon/5
|game=Black
|ndex=611
|pokemon=Fraxure
|level=41
|gender=male
|type1=Dragon
|ability=Rivalry
|move1=Dragon Tail|move1type=Dragon|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Dragon Dance|move2type=Dragon|move2cat=Status
|move3=Assurance|move3type=Dark|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Dragon Rage|move4type=Dragon|move4cat=Special}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon/5
|game=Black
|ndex=621
|pokemon=Druddigon
|level=41
|gender=male
|type1=Dragon
|ability=Rough Skin
|move1=Night Slash|move1type=Dark|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Revenge|move2type=Fighting|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Dragon Tail|move3type=Dragon|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Chip Away|move4type=Normal|move4cat=Physical}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon/5
|game=Black
|ndex=612
|pokemon=Haxorus
|level=43
|gender=male
|type1=Dragon
|ability=Mold Breaker
|move1=Dragon Tail|move1type=Dragon|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Dragon Dance|move2type=Dragon|move2cat=Status
|move3=Slash|move3type=Normal|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Assurance|move4type=Dark|move4cat=Physical}}
}}

====={{game|Black and White|s|White}}=====
{{Party
|color={{dragon color}}
|bordercolor={{dragon color dark}}
|headcolor={{dragon color light}}
|sprite=Spr BW Iris.png
|prize={{PDollar}}5160
|class=Leader
|name={{color2|000|Iris}}
|game=W
|location=Opelucid Gym
|pokemon=3
|pokemon1={{Pokémon/5
|game=Black
|ndex=611
|pokemon=Fraxure
|level=41
|gender=female
|type1=Dragon
|ability=Rivalry
|move1=Dragon Tail|move1type=Dragon|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Dragon Dance|move2type=Dragon|move2cat=Status
|move3=Assurance|move3type=Dark|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Dragon Rage|move4type=Dragon|move4cat=Special}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon/5
|game=Black
|ndex=621
|pokemon=Druddigon
|level=41
|gender=female
|type1=Dragon
|ability=Sheer Force
|move1=Dragon Tail|move1type=Dragon|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Revenge|move2type=Fighting|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Night Slash|move3type=Dark|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Chip Away|move4type=Normal|move4cat=Physical}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon/5
|game=Black
|ndex=612
|pokemon=Haxorus
|level=43
|gender=female
|type1=Dragon
|ability=Mold Breaker
|move1=Dragon Tail|move1type=Dragon|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Dragon Dance|move2type=Dragon|move2cat=Status
|move3=Slash|move3type=Normal|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Assurance|move4type=Dark|move4cat=Physical}}
}}

===={{game|Black and White|s|Pokémon Black 2 and White 2|2}}====
{{Trainerheader|Dragon}}
{{Trainerentry|Spr B2W2 Veteran M.png|Veteran|Lucius|{{tt|3680|3360 in Easy Mode, 4000 in Challenge Mode}}|1|611|Fraxure|♂|{{tt|46|42 in Easy Mode, 50 in Challenge Mode}}|None|36=リュウセイ|37=Ryūsei}}
{{Trainerdiv|Dragon}}
{{Trainerentry|Spr B2W2 Veteran F.png|Veteran|Rhona|{{tt|3600|3280 in Easy Mode, 3920 in Challenge Mode}}|2|611|Fraxure|♀|{{tt|45|41 in Easy Mode, 49 in Challenge Mode}}|Haban Berry|621|Druddigon|♀|{{tt|45|41 in Easy Mode, 49 in Challenge Mode}}|Rocky Helmet|36=タツミ|37=Tatsumi}}
{{Trainerdiv|Dragon}}
{{Trainerentry|Spr B2W2 Veteran M.png|Veteran|Jerry|{{tt|3600|3280 in Easy Mode, 3920 in Challenge Mode}}|2|611|Fraxure|♂|{{tt|45|41 in Easy Mode, 49 in Challenge Mode}}|Dragon Fang|621|Druddigon|♂|{{tt|45|41 in Easy Mode, 49 in Challenge Mode}}|Dragon Gem|36=タツロウ|37=Tatsurō}}
{{Trainerdiv|Dragon}} '''{{color|FFF|Rotation Battle}}'''
{{Trainerentry|Spr B2W2 Veteran F.png|Veteran|Denae|{{tt|3520|3200 in Easy Mode, 3840 in Challenge Mode}}|3|611|Fraxure|♀|{{tt|44|40 in Easy Mode, 48 in Challenge Mode}}|None|621|Druddigon|♀|{{tt|44|40 in Easy Mode, 48 in Challenge Mode}}|None|610|Axew|♀|{{tt|44|40 in Easy Mode, 48 in Challenge Mode}}|None|36=ドレイク|37=Drake}}
{{Trainerdiv|Dragon}} '''{{color|FFF|Triple Battle}}'''
{{Trainerentry|Spr B2W2 Veteran M.png|Veteran|Ron|{{tt|3520|3200 in Easy Mode, 3840 in Challenge Mode}}|3|611|Fraxure|♂|{{tt|44|40 in Easy Mode, 48 in Challenge Mode}}|None|621|Druddigon|♂|{{tt|44|40 in Easy Mode, 48 in Challenge Mode}}|None|610|Axew|♂|{{tt|44|40 in Easy Mode, 48 in Challenge Mode}}|None|36=ロン|37=Long}}
{{Trainerfooter|Dragon|1}}

=====Easy Mode/Normal Mode=====
{{Party
|color={{dragon color}}
|bordercolor={{dragon color dark}}
|headcolor={{dragon color light}}
|sprite=Spr B2W2 Drayden.png
|prize={{tt|{{pdollar}}4320|Easy Mode}}/{{tt|{{pdollar}}5760|Normal Mode}}
|class=Leader
|name={{color2|000|Drayden}}
|game=B2W2
|location=Opelucid Gym
|pokemon=3
|pokemon1={{Pokémon/5
|game=Black
|ndex=621
|pokemon=Druddigon
|level={{tt|42|Easy Mode}}/{{tt|46|Normal Mode}}
|gender=male
|type1=Dragon
|ability=Sheer Force
|move1=Revenge|move1type=Fighting|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Crunch|move2type=Dark|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Slash|move3type=Normal|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Dragon Tail|move4type=Dragon|move4cat=Physical}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon/5
|game=Black
|ndex=330
|pokemon=Flygon
|level={{tt|42|Easy Mode}}/{{tt|46|Normal Mode}}
|gender=male
|type1=Ground
|type2=Dragon
|ability=Levitate
|move1=Rock Slide|move1type=Rock|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Earth Power|move2type=Ground|move2cat=Special
|move3=Crunch|move3type=Dark|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Dragon Tail|move4type=Dragon|move4cat=Physical}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon/5
|game=Black
|ndex=612
|pokemon=Haxorus
|level={{tt|44|Easy Mode}}/{{tt|48|Normal Mode}}
|gender=male
|type1=Dragon
|held=Sitrus Berry
|ability=Mold Breaker
|move1=Dragon Dance|move1type=Dragon|move1cat=Status
|move2=Dragon Tail|move2type=Dragon|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Slash|move3type=Normal|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Assurance|move4type=Dark|move4cat=Physical}}
}}

=====Challenge Mode=====
{{Party
|color={{dragon color}}
|bordercolor={{dragon color dark}}
|headcolor={{dragon color light}}
|sprite=Spr B2W2 Drayden.png
|prize={{PDollar}}6240
|class=Leader
|name={{color2|000|Drayden}}
|game=B2W2
|location=Opelucid Gym
|pokemon=4
|pokemon1={{Pokémon/5
|game=Black
|ndex=621
|pokemon=Druddigon
|level=50
|gender=male
|type1=Dragon
|held=Sitrus Berry
|ability=Sheer Force
|move1=Revenge|move1type=Fighting|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Crunch|move2type=Dark|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Slash|move3type=Normal|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Rock Slide|move4type=Rock|move4cat=Physical}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon/5
|game=Black
|ndex=330
|pokemon=Flygon
|level=50
|gender=male
|type1=Ground
|type2=Dragon
|ability=Levitate
|move1=Rock Slide|move1type=Rock|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Dragon Tail|move2type=Dragon|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Crunch|move3type=Dark|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Earth Power|move4type=Ground|move4cat=Special}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon/5
|game=Black
|ndex=334
|pokemon=Altaria
|level=50
|gender=male
|type1=Dragon
|type2=Flying
|ability=Natural Cure
|move1=Cotton Guard|move1type=Grass|move1cat=Status
|move2=Fire Blast|move2type=Fire|move2cat=Special
|move3=Sing|move3type=Normal|move3cat=Status
|move4=Dragon Pulse|move4type=Dragon|move4cat=Special}}
|pokemon4={{Pokémon/5
|game=Black
|ndex=612
|pokemon=Haxorus
|level=52
|gender=male
|type1=Dragon
|held=Sitrus Berry
|ability=Mold Breaker
|move1=Dragon Dance|move1type=Dragon|move1cat=Status
|move2=Dragon Tail|move2type=Dragon|move2cat=Physical
|move3=X-Scissor|move3type=Bug|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Shadow Claw|move4type=Ghost|move4cat=Physical}}
}}

===Items===
{{Itlisth|dragon}}
{{Itemlist|Fresh Water|From [[Gym guide|Clyde]] at the entrance|Bl=yes|W=yes|B2=yes|W2=yes|display={{DL|Drink|Fresh Water}}}}
{{Itemlist|TM Dragon|Reward for defeating Drayden{{sup/5|B}}{{sup/5|B2W2}}/Iris{{sup/5|W}}|Bl=yes|W=yes|B2=yes|W2=yes|display={{TM|82|Dragon Tail}}}}
{{Itlistfoot|dragon}}

==In the anime==
Opelucid Gym was first mentioned by [[Brycen]] in ''[[BW079|Caution: Icy Battle Conditions!]]'' as the next Gym that {{Ash}} could challenge. However, before Ash and his friends could start on their road to there, a [[Nurse Joy]] in ''[[BW080|Clash of the Connoisseurs!]]'' mentions that the Gym was closed, in which {{an|Iris}} seemed to be very happy about.

The Gym appeared for the first time in ''[[BW101|Drayden Versus Iris: Past, Present, and Future!]]'' where [[Drayden]] battled Iris and won. The Gym is a stone building with two stone dragon statues lining the entrance to the Gym. Inside is a dimly lit battlefield with statues of {{p|Druddigon}}, {{p|Haxorus}} and {{p|Hydreigon}} overlooking the field near the ceiling.

==Trivia==
* This is the first Gym to have two different Gym Leaders between the initial two versions, and the second Gym to have two different Gym Leaders in the same generation (the first being the eighth Gym of [[Hoenn]], [[Sootopolis Gym]]).
* Iris and Drayden's teams are identical except for their [[gender]]s and the Ability of their {{p|Druddigon}}; Iris's Pokémon are all female and Drayden's are all male, while Iris's Druddigon has {{a|Sheer Force}} and Drayden's Druddigon has {{a|Rough Skin}}.
* In {{2v2|Black|White|2}}, the Veterans' Japanese names are all based on the word "dragon" in different languages: Ryūsei, Tatsumi, and Tatsurō are from the Japanese words ''ryū'' and ''tatsu'', Drake is a term sometimes used to refer to European dragons, and Long is Chinese for dragon.
* In {{2v2|Black|White}}, Iris's Druddigon's Ability is {{a|Sheer Force}}, yet it has no moves that take advantage of it.

{{-}}
{{Gym Leaders of Unova}} 
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[[Category:Gyms]]
[[Category:Unova Gyms]]

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Steel Wing (move)

2013-12-04T11:13:45Z

PokeMaster99999: /* By TM */ Fixed my error.

{{MoveInfobox|
n=211 |
name=Steel Wing |
jname=はがねのつばさ |
jtrans=Steel Wing |
jtranslit=Hagane no Tsubasa |
gameimage=Steel Wing V.png |
type=Steel |
damagecategory=Physical |
basepp=25 |
maxpp=40 |
power=70 |
accuracy=90 |
bdesc=10% chance of raising Defense by one level. |
gen=II |
category=Cool |
appeal=2 |
jam=0 |
cdesc=Works better if the previous appealer also used a Cool move. |
appealsc=3 |
scdesc=A basic performance using a move known by the Pokémon. |
pokefordex=Steel%20Wing |
tm2=yes |
tm#2=47 |
tm3=yes |
tm#3=47 |
tm4=yes |
tm#4=47 |
tm6=yes |
tm#6=51 |
na=no |
touches=yes |
protect=yes |
magiccoat=no |
snatch=no |
brightpowder=yes |
kingsrock=yes |
flag7=no |
flag8=no |
sound=no |
target=anyadjacent |
footnotes= }}

'''Steel Wing''' (Japanese: '''はがねのつばさ''' ''Steel Wing'') is a damage-dealing {{type|Steel}} [[move]] introduced in [[Generation II]]. It was [[TM47]] from Generation II to Generation IV. It regained its TM status in Generation VI, albeit as [[TM51]].

==Effect==
Steel Wing inflicts damage and has a 10% chance of raising the user's {{stat|Defense}}.

==Description==
{{movedesc|steel}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev3|Stad2}}|Strikes the target with stiff wings. Has a one-in-ten chance of raising the user's <sc>Defense</sc>.}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev3|GSC}}|Stiff wings strike the foe.}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev3|RSE}}|Strikes the foe with hard wings spread wide.{{tt|*|Move}} Spreads hard-edged wings and slams into the foe.{{tt|*|TM}}}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev3|FRLG}}|The foe is hit with wings of steel. It may also raise the user’s <sc>Defense</sc>.}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev3|Colo}}{{gameabbrev3|XD}}|Strikes target with wings. May raise <sc>Defense</sc>.{{tt|*|Move}} Spreads hard-edged wings and slams into the target.{{tt|*|TM}}}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev3|DPPt}}{{gameabbrev3|HGSS}}|The foe is hit with wings of steel. It may also raise the user's Defense stat.}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev3|BWB2W2}}|The target is hit with wings of steel. It may also raise the user's Defense stat.}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev3|XY}}|The target is hit with wings of steel. This may also raise the user's Defense stat.}}
|}
|}{{left clear}}

==Learnset==
===By [[Level|leveling up]]===
{{Moveheader/Level|Steel|2}}
{{Moveentry/Level2|227|Skarmory|2|Steel|Flying|49|32|38|PtHGSS=34|34|34|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/Level2|661|Fletchling|2|Normal|Flying|no|no|no|no|48}}
{{Moveentry/Level2|662|Fletchinder|2|Fire|Flying|no|no|no|no|55}}
{{Moveentry/Level2|663|Talonflame|2|Fire|Flying|no|no|no|no|60}}
{{Movefooter|Steel|2}}

===By {{pkmn|breeding}}===
{{Moveheader/Breed|Steel|2}}
{{Moveentry/Breed2|016|Pidgey|2|Normal|Flying|no|no|no|{{MSP|227|Skarmory}}|{{MSP|227|Skarmory}}{{MSP|661|Fletchling}}{{MSP|662|Fletchinder}}{{MSP|663|Talonflame}}}}
{{Moveentry/Breed2|021|Spearow|2|Normal|Flying|no|no|no|{{MSP|227|Skarmory}}|{{MSP|227|Skarmory}}{{MSP|661|Fletchling}}{{MSP|662|Fletchinder}}{{MSP|663|Talonflame}}}}
{{Moveentry/Breed2|041|Zubat|2|Poison|Flying|no|no|no|{{MSP|227|Skarmory}}|{{MSP|227|Skarmory}}{{MSP|661|Fletchling}}{{MSP|662|Fletchinder}}{{MSP|663|Talonflame}}}}
{{Moveentry/Breed2|123|Scyther|2|Bug|Flying|no|no|no|{{MSP|123|Scyther}}{{MSP|212|Scizor}}{{MSP|193|Yanma}}{{MSP|469|Yanmega}}{{MSP|207|Gligar}}{{MSP|472|Gliscor}}{{MSP|329|Vibrava}}{{MSP|330|Flygon}}|STAB=''|note=Breed from TM}}
{{Moveentry/Breed2|083|Farfetch'd|2|Normal|Flying|no|no|no|{{MSP|227|Skarmory}}|{{MSP|227|Skarmory}}{{MSP|661|Fletchling}}{{MSP|662|Fletchinder}}{{MSP|663|Talonflame}}}}
{{Moveentry/Breed2|142|Aerodactyl|2|Rock|Flying|no|no|no|{{MSP|227|Skarmory}}|{{MSP|227|Skarmory}}{{MSP|661|Fletchling}}{{MSP|662|Fletchinder}}{{MSP|663|Talonflame}}}}
{{Moveentry/Breed2|177|Natu|2|Psychic|Flying|{{MSP|227|Skarmory}}|no|no|{{MSP|227|Skarmory}}|{{MSP|227|Skarmory}}{{MSP|661|Fletchling}}{{MSP|662|Fletchinder}}{{MSP|663|Talonflame}}}}
{{Moveentry/Breed2|333|Swablu|2|Normal|Flying|no|no|no|{{MSP|227|Skarmory}}|{{MSP|227|Skarmory}}{{MSP|661|Fletchling}}{{MSP|662|Fletchinder}}{{MSP|663|Talonflame}}}}
{{Moveentry/Breed2|396|Starly|2|Normal|Flying|no|no|no|{{MSP|227|Skarmory}}|{{MSP|227|Skarmory}}{{MSP|661|Fletchling}}{{MSP|662|Fletchinder}}{{MSP|663|Talonflame}}}}
{{Moveentry/Breed2|441|Chatot|2|Normal|Flying|no|no|no|{{MSP|227|Skarmory}}|{{MSP|227|Skarmory}}{{MSP|661|Fletchling}}{{MSP|662|Fletchinder}}{{MSP|663|Talonflame}}}}
{{Moveentry/Breed2|519|Pidove|2|Normal|Flying|no|no|no|{{MSP|227|Skarmory}}|{{MSP|227|Skarmory}}{{MSP|661|Fletchling}}{{MSP|662|Fletchinder}}{{MSP|663|Talonflame}}}}
{{Moveentry/Breed2|561|Sigilyph|2|Psychic|Flying|no|no|no|{{MSP|227|Skarmory}}|{{MSP|227|Skarmory}}{{MSP|661|Fletchling}}{{MSP|662|Fletchinder}}{{MSP|663|Talonflame}}}}
{{Moveentry/Breed2|566|Archen|2|Rock|Flying|no|no|no|{{MSP|227|Skarmory}}|{{MSP|227|Skarmory}}{{MSP|661|Fletchling}}{{MSP|662|Fletchinder}}{{MSP|663|Talonflame}}}}
{{Moveentry/Breed2|580|Ducklett|2|Water|Flying|no|no|no|{{MSP|227|Skarmory}}|{{MSP|227|Skarmory}}{{MSP|661|Fletchling}}{{MSP|662|Fletchinder}}{{MSP|663|Talonflame}}}}
{{Moveentry/Breed2|629|Vullaby|2|Dark|Flying|no|no|no|{{MSP|227|Skarmory}}|{{MSP|227|Skarmory}}{{MSP|661|Fletchling}}{{MSP|662|Fletchinder}}{{MSP|663|Talonflame}}}}
{{Movefooter|Steel|2}}

===By [[TM]]===
{{Moveheader/TM|Steel|2|no|TM47|TM47|TM47|no|TM51}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|006|Charizard|2|Fire|Flying|yes|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|016|Pidgey|2|Normal|Flying|yes|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|017|Pidgeotto|2|Normal|Flying|yes|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|018|Pidgeot|2|Normal|Flying|yes|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|021|Spearow|2|Normal|Flying|yes|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|022|Fearow|2|Normal|Flying|yes|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|041|Zubat|2|Poison|Flying|yes|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|042|Golbat|2|Poison|Flying|yes|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|083|Farfetch'd|2|Normal|Flying|yes|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|084|Doduo|2|Normal|Flying|yes|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|085|Dodrio|2|Normal|Flying|yes|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|123|Scyther|2|Bug|Flying|yes|yes|yes|no|yes|STAB=''}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|142|Aerodactyl|2|Rock|Flying|yes|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|144|Articuno|2|Ice|Flying|yes|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|145|Zapdos|2|Electric|Flying|yes|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|146|Moltres|2|Fire|Flying|yes|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|149|Dragonite|2|Dragon|Flying|yes|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|151|Mew|1|Psychic|Psychic|yes|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|163|Hoothoot|2|Normal|Flying|yes|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|164|Noctowl|2|Normal|Flying|yes|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|169|Crobat|2|Poison|Flying|yes|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|176|Togetic|2|Normal|Flying|yes|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|177|Natu|2|Psychic|Flying|no|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|178|Xatu|2|Psychic|Flying|no|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|193|Yanma|2|Bug|Flying|no|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|198|Murkrow|2|Dark|Flying|yes|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|207|Gligar|2|Ground|Flying|no|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|212|Scizor|2|Bug|Steel|yes|yes|yes|no|yes|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|227|Skarmory|2|Steel|Flying|yes|yes|yes|no|yes|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|249|Lugia|2|Psychic|Flying|yes|yes|yes|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|250|Ho-Oh|2|Fire|Flying|yes|yes|yes|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|276|Taillow|2|Normal|Flying|no|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|277|Swellow|2|Normal|Flying|no|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|278|Wingull|2|Water|Flying|no|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|279|Pelipper|2|Water|Flying|no|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|329|Vibrava|2|Ground|Dragon|no|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|330|Flygon|2|Ground|Dragon|no|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|333|Swablu|2|Normal|Flying|no|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|334|Altaria|2|Dragon|Flying|no|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|357|Tropius|2|Grass|Flying|no|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|373|Salamence|2|Dragon|Flying|no|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|380|Latias|2|Dragon|Psychic|no|yes|yes|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|381|Latios|2|Dragon|Psychic|no|yes|yes|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|395|Empoleon|2|Water|Steel|no|no|yes|no|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|396|Starly|2|Normal|Flying|no|no|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|397|Staravia|2|Normal|Flying|no|no|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|398|Staraptor|2|Normal|Flying|no|no|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|430|Honchkrow|2|Dark|Flying|no|no|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|441|Chatot|2|Normal|Flying|no|no|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|468|Togekiss|2|Normal|Flying|no|no|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|469|Yanmega|2|Bug|Flying|no|no|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|472|Gliscor|2|Ground|Flying|no|no|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|487|Giratina|2|Ghost|Dragon|no|no|yes|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|519|Pidove|2|Normal|Flying|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|520|Tranquill|2|Normal|Flying|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|521|Unfezant|2|Normal|Flying|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|527|Woobat|2|Psychic|Flying|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|528|Swoobat|2|Psychic|Flying|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|542|Leavanny|2|Bug|Grass|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|561|Sigilyph|2|Psychic|Flying|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|566|Archen|2|Rock|Flying|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|567|Archeops|2|Rock|Flying|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|580|Ducklett|2|Water|Flying|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|581|Swanna|2|Water|Flying|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|627|Rufflet|2|Normal|Flying|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|628|Braviary|2|Normal|Flying|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|629|Vullaby|2|Dark|Flying|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|630|Mandibuzz|2|Dark|Flying|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|635|Hydreigon|2|Dark|Dragon|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|661|Fletchling|2|Normal|Flying|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|662|Fletchinder|2|Fire|Flying|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|663|Talonflame|2|Fire|Flying|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|701|Hawlucha|2|Fighting|Flying|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|714|Noibat|2|Flying|Dragon|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|715|Noivern|2|Flying|Dragon|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|717|Yveltal|2|Dark|Flying|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{Movefooter|Steel|2}}

===By {{pkmn2|event}}===
====[[Generation II]]====
{{Learnlistspecial|Steel}}
{{Moveentryspecial|193|Yanma|2|Bug|Flying|[[List of Gotta Catch 'Em All event Pokémon#Steel Wing Yanma|New York City Pokémon Center]]|}}
{{Learnlist/footer}}

====[[Generation V]]====
{{Learnlistspecial|Steel}}
{{Moveentryspecial|016|Pidgey|2|Normal|Flying|{{pkmn|Dream World}} - {{dwa|Windswept Sky}}|}}
{{Moveentryspecial|021|Spearow|2|Normal|Flying|{{pkmn|Dream World}} - {{dwa|Windswept Sky}}|}}
{{Learnlist/footer}}

==In the anime==
{{moveanime|type=steel|exp=yes|gen=The foe is hit with wings of steel.|image1=Nurse Joy Latias Steel Wing.png|image1p=Latias|image2=Ash Fletchling Steel Wing.png|image2p=Fletchling|image3=Gary Scizor Steel Wing.png|image3p=Scizor|image4=Winona Skarmory Steel Wing.png|image4p=Skarmory}}
{{movep|type=steel|ms=227|pkmn=Skarmory|method=One or both of Skarmory's wings glow white, and it slams it into the opponent, or Skarmory's body glows white, and it slams into the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=steel|user=Miki|user1=Miki's Skarmory|startcode=EP152|startname=Hot Matches!|notes=Debut}}
{{movemid|type=steel|user=Attila|user1=Attila's Skarmory|startcode=The Legend of Thunder!}}
{{movemid|type=steel|user=Winona|user1=Winona's Skarmory|startcode=AG084|startname=Who's Flying Now?}}
{{movemid|type=steel|user=Skarmory (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Skarmory|startcode=SS019|startname=Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Team Go-Getters Out of the Gate!}}
{{movemid|type=steel|user=Skarmory (Pokémon)|user1=Green Army's Skarmory|startcode=M08|startname=Lucario and the Mystery of Mew}}
{{movemid|type=steel|user=Skarmory (Pokémon)|user1=A Coordinator's Skarmory|startcode=AG175|startname=Going for Choke!}}
{{movemid|type=steel|user=Skarmory (Pokémon)|user1=Unknown Trainer's Skarmory|startcode=DP010|startname=Not on MY Watch Ya Don't!}}
{{movemid|type=steel|user=Skarmory (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Skarmory|startcode=DP110|startname=Steeling a Peace of Mind!}}
{{movep|type=steel|ms=212|pkmn=Scizor|method=Scizor's wings glow white and it hits the opponent with them.}}
{{movemid|type=steel|suser=Gary Oak|user1=Gary's Scizor|startcode=EP270|startname=Can't Beat the Heat!}}
{{movep|type=steel|ms=279|pkmn=Pelipper|method=One of Pelipper's wings glows white. Pelipper then slams its wing into the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=steel|user=Winona|user1=Winona's Pelipper|startcode=AG085|startname=Sky High Gym Battle!}}
{{movep|type=steel|ms=330|pkmn=Flygon|method=Both of Flygon's wings glow white and it hits the opponent with them.}}
{{movemid|type=steel|user=Drew|user1=Drew's Flygon|startcode=AG123|startname=Rhapsody in Drew}}
{{movep|type=steel|ms=207|pkmn=Gligar|method=The blue parts of Gligar's wings glow white, and it hits the opponent with them. While flying, it leaves a white streak behind it.}}
{{movemid|type=steel|user=Morrison|user1=Morrison's Gligar|startcode=AG127|startname=From Brags to Riches}}
{{movemid|type=steel|user=Ash's Gligar|startcode=DP070|startname=The Bells are Singing!}}
{{movep|type=steel|ms=144|pkmn=Articuno|method=Both of Articuno's wings glow white and it strikes the opponent with them.}}
{{movemid|type=steel|user=Noland's Articuno|startcode=AG136|startname=The Symbol Life}}
{{movemid|type=steel|user=Dr. Yung|user1=A mirage Articuno|startcode=The Mastermind of Mirage Pokémon|startname=The Mastermind of Mirage Pokémon}}
{{movep|type=steel|ms=006|pkmn=Charizard|method=Both of Charizard's wings glow white and it strikes the opponent with them.}}
{{movemid|type=steel|user=Clark|user1=Clark's Charizard|startcode=AG128|startname=Shocks and Bonds}}
{{movemid|type=steel|user=Ash's Charizard|startcode=AG189|startname=Gathering the Gang of Four!}}
{{movep|type=steel|ms=357|pkmn=Tropius|method=The leaves on Tropius's back glow white and it hits the opponent with them.}}
{{movemid|type=steel|user=Tropius (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Tropius|startcode=AG161|startname=Odd Pokémon Out!}}
{{movep|type=steel|ms=042|pkmn=Golbat|method=Both of Golbat's wings glow white and it hits the opponent with them.}}
{{movemid|type=steel|user=J's henchmen|user1=J's henchmen's Golbat|startcode=DP020|startname=Mutiny in the Bounty!}}
{{movep|type=steel|ms=193|pkmn=Yanma|method=Both of Yanma's wings glow white and it hits the opponent with them.}}
{{movemid|type=steel|user=Yanma (Pokémon)|user1=Unknown Trainer's Yanma|startcode=DP050|startname=Tag! We're it...!}}
{{movep|type=steel|ms=398|pkmn=Staraptor|method=Both of Staraptor's wings glow white, and it hits the opponent with them.}}
{{movemid|type=steel|user=Reggie|user1=Reggie's Staraptor|startcode=DP066|startname=Lost Leader Strategy!}}
{{movep|type=steel|ms=472|pkmn=Gliscor|method=The black parts of Gliscor's wings glow white and it hits the opponent with them.}}
{{movemid|type=steel|user=Ash's Gliscor|startcode=DP085|startname=Fighting Fear with Fear!}}
{{movep|type=steel|ms=469|pkmn=Yanmega|method=Both of Yanmega's wings glow white and it hits the opponent with them.}}
{{movemid|type=steel|user=Jessie's Yanmega|startcode=DP084|startname=Hungry for the Good Life!}}
{{movep|type=steel|ms=395|pkmn=Empoleon|method=Both or one of Empoleon's wings glow white and it hits the opponent with them.}}
{{movemid|type=steel|user=Barry's Empoleon|startcode=DP101|startname=Barry's Busting Out All Over!}}
{{movep|type=steel|ms=441|pkmn=Chatot|method=Both of Chatot's wings glow white and it repeatedly hits the opponent with them.}}
{{movemid|type=steel|user=Officer Jenny|user1=Officer Jenny's Buddy|startcode=DP115|startname=Stealing the Conversation!}}
{{movep|type=steel|ms=380|pkmn=Latias|method=Both of Latias's wings glow white and it repeatedly hits the opponent with them.}}
{{movemid|type=steel|user=Nurse Joy|user1=Nurse Joy's Latias|startcode=SS025}}
{{movep|type=steel|ms=661|pkmn=Fletchling|method=Fletchling's wings glow a metal-gray color and it hits the opponent with them.}}
{{movebtm|type=steel|user=Ash's Fletchling|startcode=XY006}}

==In the manga==
===In the Pokémon Adventures manga===
{{movemanga|type=steel|exp=yes|gen=The user's wings turn metallic and it hits the opponent with them.|image1=Blue Scizor Steel Wing.png|image1p=Scizor|image2=Dragonite Steel Wing Adventures.png|image2p=Dragonite|image3=PS138.png|image3p=Skarmory}}
{{movep|type=steel|ms=227|pkmn=Skarmory|method=Skarmory's wings turn metallic and it hits the opponent with one of them.}}
{{movemid|type=steel|user=Falkner|user1=Falkner's Skarmory|startcode=PS138|startname=Really Raikou & Entirely Entei II|notes=Debut}}
{{movep|type=steel|ms=212|pkmn=Scizor|method=Scizor slices the opponent with one of its wings.}}
{{movemid|type=steel|user=Blue's Scizor|startcode=PS274|startname=Activate: The Ultimate Move}}
{{movep|type=steel|ms=149|pkmn=Dragonite|method=One of Dragonite's wings glow white and it slashes the opponent with it.}}
{{movebtmManga|type=steel|user=Dragonite (Pokémon)|user1=The Battle Hall's Dragonite|startcode=PS429|startname=VS. Dragonite}}

==In other generations==
{{Movegen|
type=steel|
genII=Steel Wing II|
genIII=Steel Wing III|
genIV=Steel Wing IV|
}}
{{Movegen|
type=Steel|
Stad2=Steel Wing Stad2|
}}

==In other languages==
{{Langtable|color={{steel color}}|bordercolor={{steel color dark}}
|zh_cmn=鋼翼 ''{{tt|Gāngyì|Steel Wing}}''
|nl=Staalvleugel
|fi=Terässiipi
|fr=Aile d'Acier
|de=Stahlflügel
|el=Ατσάλινα Φτερά
|hi=स्टील के पंख ''Steel kay Pankh''
|id=Sayap Baja Sayap Besi
|it=Alacciaio
|ko=강철날개 ''Gangcheol Nalgae''
|pl=Stalowe Skrzydła
|pt_br=Asa de Aço
|pt_eu=Asa de Aço
|sr=Čelično Krilo
|es_la= Ala de Acero
|es_eu=Ala Acero
|ro=Aripa de Metal}}
{{-}}

{{Generation II TMs}}
{{Generation III TMs}}
{{Generation IV TMs}}
{{Generation VI TMs}}
{{Project Moves and Abilities notice}}

[[Category:Signature moves]]
[[Category:Moves that can raise the user's Defense]]

[[de:Stahlflügel]]
[[fr:Aile d'Acier]]
[[it:Alacciaio (mossa)]]
[[ja:はがねのつばさ]]
[[pl:Steel Wing]]
[[pt:Steel Wing]]
[[zh:钢翼（技能）]]

Steel Wing (move)

2013-12-04T11:10:14Z

PokeMaster99999: /* By TM */ Changed it so that it shows Mew can learn TM51 in Gen VI; after all, Mew is known for the unique ability to use any and all TMs and HMs, so why wouldn't it be able to use TM51?

{{MoveInfobox|
n=211 |
name=Steel Wing |
jname=はがねのつばさ |
jtrans=Steel Wing |
jtranslit=Hagane no Tsubasa |
gameimage=Steel Wing V.png |
type=Steel |
damagecategory=Physical |
basepp=25 |
maxpp=40 |
power=70 |
accuracy=90 |
bdesc=10% chance of raising Defense by one level. |
gen=II |
category=Cool |
appeal=2 |
jam=0 |
cdesc=Works better if the previous appealer also used a Cool move. |
appealsc=3 |
scdesc=A basic performance using a move known by the Pokémon. |
pokefordex=Steel%20Wing |
tm2=yes |
tm#2=47 |
tm3=yes |
tm#3=47 |
tm4=yes |
tm#4=47 |
tm6=yes |
tm#6=51 |
na=no |
touches=yes |
protect=yes |
magiccoat=no |
snatch=no |
brightpowder=yes |
kingsrock=yes |
flag7=no |
flag8=no |
sound=no |
target=anyadjacent |
footnotes= }}

'''Steel Wing''' (Japanese: '''はがねのつばさ''' ''Steel Wing'') is a damage-dealing {{type|Steel}} [[move]] introduced in [[Generation II]]. It was [[TM47]] from Generation II to Generation IV. It regained its TM status in Generation VI, albeit as [[TM51]].

==Effect==
Steel Wing inflicts damage and has a 10% chance of raising the user's {{stat|Defense}}.

==Description==
{{movedesc|steel}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev3|Stad2}}|Strikes the target with stiff wings. Has a one-in-ten chance of raising the user's <sc>Defense</sc>.}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev3|GSC}}|Stiff wings strike the foe.}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev3|RSE}}|Strikes the foe with hard wings spread wide.{{tt|*|Move}} Spreads hard-edged wings and slams into the foe.{{tt|*|TM}}}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev3|FRLG}}|The foe is hit with wings of steel. It may also raise the user’s <sc>Defense</sc>.}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev3|Colo}}{{gameabbrev3|XD}}|Strikes target with wings. May raise <sc>Defense</sc>.{{tt|*|Move}} Spreads hard-edged wings and slams into the target.{{tt|*|TM}}}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev3|DPPt}}{{gameabbrev3|HGSS}}|The foe is hit with wings of steel. It may also raise the user's Defense stat.}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev3|BWB2W2}}|The target is hit with wings of steel. It may also raise the user's Defense stat.}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev3|XY}}|The target is hit with wings of steel. This may also raise the user's Defense stat.}}
|}
|}{{left clear}}

==Learnset==
===By [[Level|leveling up]]===
{{Moveheader/Level|Steel|2}}
{{Moveentry/Level2|227|Skarmory|2|Steel|Flying|49|32|38|PtHGSS=34|34|34|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/Level2|661|Fletchling|2|Normal|Flying|no|no|no|no|48}}
{{Moveentry/Level2|662|Fletchinder|2|Fire|Flying|no|no|no|no|55}}
{{Moveentry/Level2|663|Talonflame|2|Fire|Flying|no|no|no|no|60}}
{{Movefooter|Steel|2}}

===By {{pkmn|breeding}}===
{{Moveheader/Breed|Steel|2}}
{{Moveentry/Breed2|016|Pidgey|2|Normal|Flying|no|no|no|{{MSP|227|Skarmory}}|{{MSP|227|Skarmory}}{{MSP|661|Fletchling}}{{MSP|662|Fletchinder}}{{MSP|663|Talonflame}}}}
{{Moveentry/Breed2|021|Spearow|2|Normal|Flying|no|no|no|{{MSP|227|Skarmory}}|{{MSP|227|Skarmory}}{{MSP|661|Fletchling}}{{MSP|662|Fletchinder}}{{MSP|663|Talonflame}}}}
{{Moveentry/Breed2|041|Zubat|2|Poison|Flying|no|no|no|{{MSP|227|Skarmory}}|{{MSP|227|Skarmory}}{{MSP|661|Fletchling}}{{MSP|662|Fletchinder}}{{MSP|663|Talonflame}}}}
{{Moveentry/Breed2|123|Scyther|2|Bug|Flying|no|no|no|{{MSP|123|Scyther}}{{MSP|212|Scizor}}{{MSP|193|Yanma}}{{MSP|469|Yanmega}}{{MSP|207|Gligar}}{{MSP|472|Gliscor}}{{MSP|329|Vibrava}}{{MSP|330|Flygon}}|STAB=''|note=Breed from TM}}
{{Moveentry/Breed2|083|Farfetch'd|2|Normal|Flying|no|no|no|{{MSP|227|Skarmory}}|{{MSP|227|Skarmory}}{{MSP|661|Fletchling}}{{MSP|662|Fletchinder}}{{MSP|663|Talonflame}}}}
{{Moveentry/Breed2|142|Aerodactyl|2|Rock|Flying|no|no|no|{{MSP|227|Skarmory}}|{{MSP|227|Skarmory}}{{MSP|661|Fletchling}}{{MSP|662|Fletchinder}}{{MSP|663|Talonflame}}}}
{{Moveentry/Breed2|177|Natu|2|Psychic|Flying|{{MSP|227|Skarmory}}|no|no|{{MSP|227|Skarmory}}|{{MSP|227|Skarmory}}{{MSP|661|Fletchling}}{{MSP|662|Fletchinder}}{{MSP|663|Talonflame}}}}
{{Moveentry/Breed2|333|Swablu|2|Normal|Flying|no|no|no|{{MSP|227|Skarmory}}|{{MSP|227|Skarmory}}{{MSP|661|Fletchling}}{{MSP|662|Fletchinder}}{{MSP|663|Talonflame}}}}
{{Moveentry/Breed2|396|Starly|2|Normal|Flying|no|no|no|{{MSP|227|Skarmory}}|{{MSP|227|Skarmory}}{{MSP|661|Fletchling}}{{MSP|662|Fletchinder}}{{MSP|663|Talonflame}}}}
{{Moveentry/Breed2|441|Chatot|2|Normal|Flying|no|no|no|{{MSP|227|Skarmory}}|{{MSP|227|Skarmory}}{{MSP|661|Fletchling}}{{MSP|662|Fletchinder}}{{MSP|663|Talonflame}}}}
{{Moveentry/Breed2|519|Pidove|2|Normal|Flying|no|no|no|{{MSP|227|Skarmory}}|{{MSP|227|Skarmory}}{{MSP|661|Fletchling}}{{MSP|662|Fletchinder}}{{MSP|663|Talonflame}}}}
{{Moveentry/Breed2|561|Sigilyph|2|Psychic|Flying|no|no|no|{{MSP|227|Skarmory}}|{{MSP|227|Skarmory}}{{MSP|661|Fletchling}}{{MSP|662|Fletchinder}}{{MSP|663|Talonflame}}}}
{{Moveentry/Breed2|566|Archen|2|Rock|Flying|no|no|no|{{MSP|227|Skarmory}}|{{MSP|227|Skarmory}}{{MSP|661|Fletchling}}{{MSP|662|Fletchinder}}{{MSP|663|Talonflame}}}}
{{Moveentry/Breed2|580|Ducklett|2|Water|Flying|no|no|no|{{MSP|227|Skarmory}}|{{MSP|227|Skarmory}}{{MSP|661|Fletchling}}{{MSP|662|Fletchinder}}{{MSP|663|Talonflame}}}}
{{Moveentry/Breed2|629|Vullaby|2|Dark|Flying|no|no|no|{{MSP|227|Skarmory}}|{{MSP|227|Skarmory}}{{MSP|661|Fletchling}}{{MSP|662|Fletchinder}}{{MSP|663|Talonflame}}}}
{{Movefooter|Steel|2}}

===By [[TM]]===
{{Moveheader/TM|Steel|2|no|TM47|TM47|TM47|no|TM51}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|006|Charizard|2|Fire|Flying|yes|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|016|Pidgey|2|Normal|Flying|yes|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|017|Pidgeotto|2|Normal|Flying|yes|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|018|Pidgeot|2|Normal|Flying|yes|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|021|Spearow|2|Normal|Flying|yes|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|022|Fearow|2|Normal|Flying|yes|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|041|Zubat|2|Poison|Flying|yes|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|042|Golbat|2|Poison|Flying|yes|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|083|Farfetch'd|2|Normal|Flying|yes|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|084|Doduo|2|Normal|Flying|yes|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|085|Dodrio|2|Normal|Flying|yes|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|123|Scyther|2|Bug|Flying|yes|yes|yes|no|yes|STAB=''}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|142|Aerodactyl|2|Rock|Flying|yes|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|144|Articuno|2|Ice|Flying|yes|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|145|Zapdos|2|Electric|Flying|yes|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|146|Moltres|2|Fire|Flying|yes|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|149|Dragonite|2|Dragon|Flying|yes|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|151|Mew|1|Psychic|Psychic|yes|yes|yes|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|163|Hoothoot|2|Normal|Flying|yes|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|164|Noctowl|2|Normal|Flying|yes|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|169|Crobat|2|Poison|Flying|yes|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|176|Togetic|2|Normal|Flying|yes|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|177|Natu|2|Psychic|Flying|no|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|178|Xatu|2|Psychic|Flying|no|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|193|Yanma|2|Bug|Flying|no|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|198|Murkrow|2|Dark|Flying|yes|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|207|Gligar|2|Ground|Flying|no|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|212|Scizor|2|Bug|Steel|yes|yes|yes|no|yes|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|227|Skarmory|2|Steel|Flying|yes|yes|yes|no|yes|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|249|Lugia|2|Psychic|Flying|yes|yes|yes|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|250|Ho-Oh|2|Fire|Flying|yes|yes|yes|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|276|Taillow|2|Normal|Flying|no|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|277|Swellow|2|Normal|Flying|no|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|278|Wingull|2|Water|Flying|no|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|279|Pelipper|2|Water|Flying|no|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|329|Vibrava|2|Ground|Dragon|no|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|330|Flygon|2|Ground|Dragon|no|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|333|Swablu|2|Normal|Flying|no|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|334|Altaria|2|Dragon|Flying|no|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|357|Tropius|2|Grass|Flying|no|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|373|Salamence|2|Dragon|Flying|no|yes|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|380|Latias|2|Dragon|Psychic|no|yes|yes|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|381|Latios|2|Dragon|Psychic|no|yes|yes|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|395|Empoleon|2|Water|Steel|no|no|yes|no|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|396|Starly|2|Normal|Flying|no|no|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|397|Staravia|2|Normal|Flying|no|no|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|398|Staraptor|2|Normal|Flying|no|no|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|430|Honchkrow|2|Dark|Flying|no|no|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|441|Chatot|2|Normal|Flying|no|no|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|468|Togekiss|2|Normal|Flying|no|no|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|469|Yanmega|2|Bug|Flying|no|no|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|472|Gliscor|2|Ground|Flying|no|no|yes|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|487|Giratina|2|Ghost|Dragon|no|no|yes|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|519|Pidove|2|Normal|Flying|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|520|Tranquill|2|Normal|Flying|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|521|Unfezant|2|Normal|Flying|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|527|Woobat|2|Psychic|Flying|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|528|Swoobat|2|Psychic|Flying|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|542|Leavanny|2|Bug|Grass|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|561|Sigilyph|2|Psychic|Flying|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|566|Archen|2|Rock|Flying|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|567|Archeops|2|Rock|Flying|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|580|Ducklett|2|Water|Flying|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|581|Swanna|2|Water|Flying|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|627|Rufflet|2|Normal|Flying|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|628|Braviary|2|Normal|Flying|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|629|Vullaby|2|Dark|Flying|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|630|Mandibuzz|2|Dark|Flying|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|635|Hydreigon|2|Dark|Dragon|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|661|Fletchling|2|Normal|Flying|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|662|Fletchinder|2|Fire|Flying|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|663|Talonflame|2|Fire|Flying|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|701|Hawlucha|2|Fighting|Flying|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|714|Noibat|2|Flying|Dragon|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|715|Noivern|2|Flying|Dragon|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{Moveentry/TM2|717|Yveltal|2|Dark|Flying|no|no|no|no|yes}}
{{Movefooter|Steel|2}}

===By {{pkmn2|event}}===
====[[Generation II]]====
{{Learnlistspecial|Steel}}
{{Moveentryspecial|193|Yanma|2|Bug|Flying|[[List of Gotta Catch 'Em All event Pokémon#Steel Wing Yanma|New York City Pokémon Center]]|}}
{{Learnlist/footer}}

====[[Generation V]]====
{{Learnlistspecial|Steel}}
{{Moveentryspecial|016|Pidgey|2|Normal|Flying|{{pkmn|Dream World}} - {{dwa|Windswept Sky}}|}}
{{Moveentryspecial|021|Spearow|2|Normal|Flying|{{pkmn|Dream World}} - {{dwa|Windswept Sky}}|}}
{{Learnlist/footer}}

==In the anime==
{{moveanime|type=steel|exp=yes|gen=The foe is hit with wings of steel.|image1=Nurse Joy Latias Steel Wing.png|image1p=Latias|image2=Ash Fletchling Steel Wing.png|image2p=Fletchling|image3=Gary Scizor Steel Wing.png|image3p=Scizor|image4=Winona Skarmory Steel Wing.png|image4p=Skarmory}}
{{movep|type=steel|ms=227|pkmn=Skarmory|method=One or both of Skarmory's wings glow white, and it slams it into the opponent, or Skarmory's body glows white, and it slams into the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=steel|user=Miki|user1=Miki's Skarmory|startcode=EP152|startname=Hot Matches!|notes=Debut}}
{{movemid|type=steel|user=Attila|user1=Attila's Skarmory|startcode=The Legend of Thunder!}}
{{movemid|type=steel|user=Winona|user1=Winona's Skarmory|startcode=AG084|startname=Who's Flying Now?}}
{{movemid|type=steel|user=Skarmory (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Skarmory|startcode=SS019|startname=Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Team Go-Getters Out of the Gate!}}
{{movemid|type=steel|user=Skarmory (Pokémon)|user1=Green Army's Skarmory|startcode=M08|startname=Lucario and the Mystery of Mew}}
{{movemid|type=steel|user=Skarmory (Pokémon)|user1=A Coordinator's Skarmory|startcode=AG175|startname=Going for Choke!}}
{{movemid|type=steel|user=Skarmory (Pokémon)|user1=Unknown Trainer's Skarmory|startcode=DP010|startname=Not on MY Watch Ya Don't!}}
{{movemid|type=steel|user=Skarmory (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Skarmory|startcode=DP110|startname=Steeling a Peace of Mind!}}
{{movep|type=steel|ms=212|pkmn=Scizor|method=Scizor's wings glow white and it hits the opponent with them.}}
{{movemid|type=steel|suser=Gary Oak|user1=Gary's Scizor|startcode=EP270|startname=Can't Beat the Heat!}}
{{movep|type=steel|ms=279|pkmn=Pelipper|method=One of Pelipper's wings glows white. Pelipper then slams its wing into the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=steel|user=Winona|user1=Winona's Pelipper|startcode=AG085|startname=Sky High Gym Battle!}}
{{movep|type=steel|ms=330|pkmn=Flygon|method=Both of Flygon's wings glow white and it hits the opponent with them.}}
{{movemid|type=steel|user=Drew|user1=Drew's Flygon|startcode=AG123|startname=Rhapsody in Drew}}
{{movep|type=steel|ms=207|pkmn=Gligar|method=The blue parts of Gligar's wings glow white, and it hits the opponent with them. While flying, it leaves a white streak behind it.}}
{{movemid|type=steel|user=Morrison|user1=Morrison's Gligar|startcode=AG127|startname=From Brags to Riches}}
{{movemid|type=steel|user=Ash's Gligar|startcode=DP070|startname=The Bells are Singing!}}
{{movep|type=steel|ms=144|pkmn=Articuno|method=Both of Articuno's wings glow white and it strikes the opponent with them.}}
{{movemid|type=steel|user=Noland's Articuno|startcode=AG136|startname=The Symbol Life}}
{{movemid|type=steel|user=Dr. Yung|user1=A mirage Articuno|startcode=The Mastermind of Mirage Pokémon|startname=The Mastermind of Mirage Pokémon}}
{{movep|type=steel|ms=006|pkmn=Charizard|method=Both of Charizard's wings glow white and it strikes the opponent with them.}}
{{movemid|type=steel|user=Clark|user1=Clark's Charizard|startcode=AG128|startname=Shocks and Bonds}}
{{movemid|type=steel|user=Ash's Charizard|startcode=AG189|startname=Gathering the Gang of Four!}}
{{movep|type=steel|ms=357|pkmn=Tropius|method=The leaves on Tropius's back glow white and it hits the opponent with them.}}
{{movemid|type=steel|user=Tropius (Pokémon)|user1=A wild Tropius|startcode=AG161|startname=Odd Pokémon Out!}}
{{movep|type=steel|ms=042|pkmn=Golbat|method=Both of Golbat's wings glow white and it hits the opponent with them.}}
{{movemid|type=steel|user=J's henchmen|user1=J's henchmen's Golbat|startcode=DP020|startname=Mutiny in the Bounty!}}
{{movep|type=steel|ms=193|pkmn=Yanma|method=Both of Yanma's wings glow white and it hits the opponent with them.}}
{{movemid|type=steel|user=Yanma (Pokémon)|user1=Unknown Trainer's Yanma|startcode=DP050|startname=Tag! We're it...!}}
{{movep|type=steel|ms=398|pkmn=Staraptor|method=Both of Staraptor's wings glow white, and it hits the opponent with them.}}
{{movemid|type=steel|user=Reggie|user1=Reggie's Staraptor|startcode=DP066|startname=Lost Leader Strategy!}}
{{movep|type=steel|ms=472|pkmn=Gliscor|method=The black parts of Gliscor's wings glow white and it hits the opponent with them.}}
{{movemid|type=steel|user=Ash's Gliscor|startcode=DP085|startname=Fighting Fear with Fear!}}
{{movep|type=steel|ms=469|pkmn=Yanmega|method=Both of Yanmega's wings glow white and it hits the opponent with them.}}
{{movemid|type=steel|user=Jessie's Yanmega|startcode=DP084|startname=Hungry for the Good Life!}}
{{movep|type=steel|ms=395|pkmn=Empoleon|method=Both or one of Empoleon's wings glow white and it hits the opponent with them.}}
{{movemid|type=steel|user=Barry's Empoleon|startcode=DP101|startname=Barry's Busting Out All Over!}}
{{movep|type=steel|ms=441|pkmn=Chatot|method=Both of Chatot's wings glow white and it repeatedly hits the opponent with them.}}
{{movemid|type=steel|user=Officer Jenny|user1=Officer Jenny's Buddy|startcode=DP115|startname=Stealing the Conversation!}}
{{movep|type=steel|ms=380|pkmn=Latias|method=Both of Latias's wings glow white and it repeatedly hits the opponent with them.}}
{{movemid|type=steel|user=Nurse Joy|user1=Nurse Joy's Latias|startcode=SS025}}
{{movep|type=steel|ms=661|pkmn=Fletchling|method=Fletchling's wings glow a metal-gray color and it hits the opponent with them.}}
{{movebtm|type=steel|user=Ash's Fletchling|startcode=XY006}}

==In the manga==
===In the Pokémon Adventures manga===
{{movemanga|type=steel|exp=yes|gen=The user's wings turn metallic and it hits the opponent with them.|image1=Blue Scizor Steel Wing.png|image1p=Scizor|image2=Dragonite Steel Wing Adventures.png|image2p=Dragonite|image3=PS138.png|image3p=Skarmory}}
{{movep|type=steel|ms=227|pkmn=Skarmory|method=Skarmory's wings turn metallic and it hits the opponent with one of them.}}
{{movemid|type=steel|user=Falkner|user1=Falkner's Skarmory|startcode=PS138|startname=Really Raikou & Entirely Entei II|notes=Debut}}
{{movep|type=steel|ms=212|pkmn=Scizor|method=Scizor slices the opponent with one of its wings.}}
{{movemid|type=steel|user=Blue's Scizor|startcode=PS274|startname=Activate: The Ultimate Move}}
{{movep|type=steel|ms=149|pkmn=Dragonite|method=One of Dragonite's wings glow white and it slashes the opponent with it.}}
{{movebtmManga|type=steel|user=Dragonite (Pokémon)|user1=The Battle Hall's Dragonite|startcode=PS429|startname=VS. Dragonite}}

==In other generations==
{{Movegen|
type=steel|
genII=Steel Wing II|
genIII=Steel Wing III|
genIV=Steel Wing IV|
}}
{{Movegen|
type=Steel|
Stad2=Steel Wing Stad2|
}}

==In other languages==
{{Langtable|color={{steel color}}|bordercolor={{steel color dark}}
|zh_cmn=鋼翼 ''{{tt|Gāngyì|Steel Wing}}''
|nl=Staalvleugel
|fi=Terässiipi
|fr=Aile d'Acier
|de=Stahlflügel
|el=Ατσάλινα Φτερά
|hi=स्टील के पंख ''Steel kay Pankh''
|id=Sayap Baja Sayap Besi
|it=Alacciaio
|ko=강철날개 ''Gangcheol Nalgae''
|pl=Stalowe Skrzydła
|pt_br=Asa de Aço
|pt_eu=Asa de Aço
|sr=Čelično Krilo
|es_la= Ala de Acero
|es_eu=Ala Acero
|ro=Aripa de Metal}}
{{-}}

{{Generation II TMs}}
{{Generation III TMs}}
{{Generation IV TMs}}
{{Generation VI TMs}}
{{Project Moves and Abilities notice}}

[[Category:Signature moves]]
[[Category:Moves that can raise the user's Defense]]

[[de:Stahlflügel]]
[[fr:Aile d'Acier]]
[[it:Alacciaio (mossa)]]
[[ja:はがねのつばさ]]
[[pl:Steel Wing]]
[[pt:Steel Wing]]
[[zh:钢翼（技能）]]

Talk:Battle Chatelaine (Trainer class)

2013-11-21T18:55:02Z

PokeMaster99999:

==Battle Chatelaine Nita==
After a bit of research, I have found a bit of Nita's team. Sure, the knowledge that she has a Purugly, Grumpig and Wigglytuff is somewhat well-known, but I have discovered a few interesting things.
For one, her Purugly has Shadow Ball, Round and Hypnosis. Still don't know item, potential Ability or fourth move.
Her Grumpig has Thick Fat/? (When I used a Fire-type attack, it didn't do much despite not being resisted, but the Ability could be randomised), along with Power Gem, Shadow Ball and Energy Ball.
Her Wigglytuff has Frisk/?, Disarming Voice, and Round.

So there's a bit of stuff to create the article with. [[User:PokeMaster99999|PokeMaster99999]] ([[User talk:PokeMaster99999|talk]]) 10:38, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

==Full official artworks? ==
I found the official artwork in Bulbapedia and guidebook are different.

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/3000/f1fq.jpg

Look Evelyn's fingers holding the Poke Ball, and Nita's waist.

Whether Evelyn's full artwork in Bulbapedia is likely to be false?

http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=39171678

([[User:E9310103838|E9310103838]] ([[User talk:E9310103838|talk]]) 04:12, 21 November 2013 (UTC))

==Teams==

As these, uh, "fine ladies" are kind of bosses/important, shouldn't they have more than just the regular old 'list' of Pokémon? I think they deserve the same kind of thing as people like Trevor or Diana - in other words, the article should list their Pokémon's moves and items, along with Abilities.
After all, the Battle Frontier Brains and the Battle Subway Bosses had that, why not the Battle Maison Chatelaines?

I also know it says "DO NOT STEAL INFORMATION FROM OTHER SITES" up top, but Serebii.net has a full list of moves and items we could use - all we'd need to do is reference it. [[User:PokeMaster99999|PokeMaster99999]] ([[User talk:PokeMaster99999|talk]]) 18:55, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

Sewaddle (Pokémon)

2013-11-21T10:52:19Z

PokeMaster99999: /* By leveling up */ In Generation VI (X and Y), Struggle Bug has 50 Base Power, not 30. Also, how do we know Sewaddle's Generation VI learnset, anyway? It's not even available there yet!

{{PokémonPrevNextHead | species=Sewaddle | prev=Sawk | next=Swadloon | prevnum=539 | nextnum=541 | type=Bug | type2=Grass }}
{{Pokémon Infobox |
name=Sewaddle |
jname=クルミル |
tmname=Kurumiru |
species=Sewing |
typebox=1 |
type1=Bug |
type2=Grass |
abilityn=d |
ability1=Swarm |
ability2=Chlorophyll |
abilityd=Overcoat |
ndex=540 |
udex=046 |
u2dex=017 |
height-ftin=1'00" |
height-m=0.3 |
weight-lbs=5.5 |
weight-kg=2.5 |
egggroupn=1 |
egggroup1=Bug |
eggcycles=16 |
evtotal=1 |
evde=1 |
expyield=62 |
lv100exp=1,059,860 |
gendercode=127 |
color=Yellow |
catchrate=255 |
body=14 |
pokefordex=sewaddle |
generation=5 |
friendship=70 |
}}
'''Sewaddle''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''クルミル''' ''Kurumiru'') is a {{2t|Bug|Grass}} Pokémon.

It [[Evolution|evolves]] into {{p|Swadloon}} starting at [[level]] 20, which evolves into {{p|Leavanny}} when [[level]]ed up with high [[friendship]].

==Biology==
[[File:Ash Sewaddle Rolled Up.png|thumb|left|250px|Sewaddle sleeping by covering its head with its hood]]
Sewaddle is a caterpillar-like Pokémon with a broad, bitten leaf enfolding its head like a hood. Its large, spherical head is an orange-yellow with two small, close-together knobs on its forehead. Sewaddle's eyes are black and circular, and its mouth has a downward-pointing, crescent-shaped orange snout with a sharp tiny tooth at either end. The underside between the snout and its neck is white. Its green body has three segements with a pair stubby, spherical orange legs on each segment.

Sewaddle makes itself leafy clothes using chewed-up leaves and a thread-like substance it produces from its mouth, though {{p|Leavanny}} tends to make its first set after hatching. By folding it over its face, its leafy hood is used to help hide it from enemies, whether awake or asleep. [[BW018|It has been shown]] to eat berries, but when food is scarce it will eat its leafy clothing as an alternative.

==In the anime==
[[File:Ash Sewaddle.png|thumb|250px|Sewaddle in the anime]]
===Major appearances===
====[[Ash's Sewaddle]]====
Ash's Sewaddle made its debut in ''[[BW018|Sewaddle and Burgh in Pinwheel Forest!]]'' where {{Ash}} caught it. It evolved into a {{p|Swadloon}} in ''[[BW023|Battling For The Love of Bug-Types!]]'' while battling [[Burgh]]'s {{p|Whirlipede}}, and later evolved into a {{p|Leavanny}} in ''[[BW074|Battling the Leaf Thieves!]]''.

====Other====
A Sewaddle appeared in ''[[BW119|Meowth, Colress and Team Rivalry!]]''.

===Minor appearances===
In ''[[BW019|A Connoisseur's Revenge!]]'', multiple Trainers' Sewaddle were seen at a [[Poké Mart]].

In ''[[BW023|Battling For The Love of Bug-Types!]]'', a Sewaddle was shown to reside at the [[Castelia Gym]].

A photo of a Sewaddle appeared in ''[[BW054|The Four Seasons of Sawsbuck!]]''.

Multiple Sewaddle appeared in ''[[BW053|A Maractus Musical!]]'' and Sewaddle made brief appearances in ''[[BW066|Baffling the Bouffalant!]]'', ''[[BW067|Cilan Takes Flight!]]'', ''[[BW069|Climbing the Tower of Success!]]'', and ''[[BW074|Battling the Leaf Thieves!]]''.

A Sewaddle appeared in ''[[BW080|Clash of the Connoisseurs!]]''.

A Sewaddle appeared in ''[[BW132|Searching for a Wish!]].''

A Sewaddle appeared in a flashback in ''[[BW140|Survival of the Striaton Gym!]]''.

A group of Sewaddle also appeared in ''[[M16|Genesect and the Legend Awakened]]'' at [[Pokémon Hills]].

===Pokédex entries===
{{Animedexheader|Unova}}
{{Animedexbody|BW018|Sewaddle|Ash's Pokédex|Sewaddle, the Sewing Pokémon. Sewaddle hides from its enemies by covering its head with a hood made from a leaf, and is known to eat its leafy clothing when food is scarce.}}
{{Animedexfooter/Pokémon|''Best Wishes''|Unova}}

==In the manga==
[[File:Sewaddle Adventures.png|thumb|Sewaddle in Pokémon Adventures]]
===In the Pokémon Adventures manga===
Sewaddle made its debut in ''[[PS462|Choices]]'', where it attacked {{adv|Black}} after he disturbed its nest.
{{-}}

===Pokédex entries===
{{Mangadexheader}}
{{Mangadexbody|Pokémon Adventures|[[PS462|Choices]]|This Pokémon makes clothes for itself. It chews up leaves and sews them with sticky thread extruded from its mouth.}}
{{Mangadexfooter}}

==In the TCG==
{{main|Sewaddle (TCG)}}

==Game data==

===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex
|type=Bug
|type2=Grass
|gen=5
|blackdex={{p|Leavanny}} dress it in clothes they made for it when it hatched. It hides its head in its hood while it is sleeping.
|whitedex=This Pokémon makes clothes for itself. It chews up leaves and sews them with sticky thread extruded from its mouth.
|b2w2dex=Since this Pokémon makes its own clothes out of leaves, it is a popular mascot for fashion designers.
|xdex=This Pokémon makes clothes for itself. It chews up leaves and sews them with sticky thread extruded from its mouth.
|ydex=Since this Pokémon makes its own clothes out of leaves, it is a popular mascot for fashion designers.
}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability|
type=Bug|
type2=Grass|
gen=5 |
bwrarity=Common|
bwarea=[[Pinwheel Forest]]|
b2w2rarity=Unknown|
b2w2area=[[Route]]s {{rtn|12|Unova}} and {{rtn|20|Unova}}|
}}

====In side games====
{{SidegameAvail
|type=bug
|type2=grass
|rumble2=Treetops: [[Soothing Shore]] Field: [[Soothing Shore]]
|mdgti=[[Hazy Pass]], [[Stompstump Peak]], [[Forest Grotto]], [[Mountain Pass]], Magnagate dungeons, [[Silent Tundra]], [[Moonlit Forest]], [[Slumbering Cave]], [[Dreamy Island]], [[Path of No Return]]
|conquest=[[Greenleaf]] [[Chrysalia]] [[Valora]]
}}

===Held items===
{{HeldItems
|type=bug|type2=grass
|bw1=Mental Herb|bw1type=In-battle effect item|bw1rar=5|
|b2w21=Mental Herb|b2w21type=In-battle effect item|b2w21rar=5|
}}

===Stats===
====Base stats====
{{BaseStats|
type=Bug|
type2=Grass|
HP=45|
Attack=53|
Defense=70|
SpAtk=40|
SpDef=60|
Speed=42}}

===Type effectiveness===
{{TypeEffectiveness|
type1=bug|
type2=grass|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting= 50 |
Flying= 400 |
Poison= 200 |
Ground= 25 |
Rock= 200 |
Bug= 200 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 400 |
Water= 50 |
Grass= 25 |
Electric= 50 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 200 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 |
Fairy = 100}}

===Learnset===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{learnlist/levelh/6|Sewaddle|Bug|Grass|5}}
{{learnlist/level6|Start|Tackle|Normal|Physical|50|100|35}}
{{learnlist/level6|Start|String Shot|Bug|Status|—|95|40}}
{{learnlist/level6|8|Bug Bite|Bug|Physical|60|100|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/level6|15|Razor Leaf|Grass|Physical|55|95|25||'''}}
{{learnlist/level6|22|Struggle Bug|Bug|Special|50|100|20||'''}}

{{learnlist/levelf|Sewaddle|Bug|Grass|6|5}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{learnlist/tmh|Sewaddle|Bug|Grass|5|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM04|Calm Mind|Psychic|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM06|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|90|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM10|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|—|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM11|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|—|—|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM16|Light Screen|Psychic|Status|—|—|30}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM17|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM20|Safeguard|Normal|Status|—|—|25}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM21|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM22|SolarBeam|Grass|Special|120|100|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM27|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM32|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM42|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM44|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM45|Attract|Normal|Status|—|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM48|Round|Normal|Special|60|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM53|Energy Ball|Grass|Special|80|100|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM66|Payback|Dark|Physical|50|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM70|Flash|Normal|Status|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM76|Struggle Bug|Bug|Special|30|100|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM85|Dream Eater|Psychic|Special|100|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM86|Grass Knot|Grass|Special|—|100|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM87|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM90|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|HM01|Cut|Normal|Physical|50|95|30}}
{{learnlist/tmf|Sewaddle|Bug|Grass|5|5}}

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
{{learnlist/breedh|Sewaddle|Bug|Grass|5|5}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|015|Beedrill}}{{MSP|123|Scyther}}{{MSP|212|Scizor}}{{MSP|165|Ledyba}}{{MSP|166|Ledian}}{{MSP|167|Spinarak}} {{MSP|168|Ariados}}{{MSP|283|Surskit}}{{MSP|291|Ninjask}}{{MSP|543|Venipede}}{{MSP|544|Whirlipede}}{{MSP|545|Scolipede}} {{MSP|595|Joltik}}{{MSP|596|Galvantula}}{{MSP|617|Accelgor}}{{MSP|632|Durant}}|Agility|Psychic|Status|—|—|30|}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|123|Scyther}}{{MSP|193|Yanma}}{{MSP|469|Yanmega}}{{MSP|284|Masquerain}}{{MSP|414|Mothim}}|Air Slash|Flying|Special|75|95|20|}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|165|Ledyba}}{{MSP|166|Ledian}}{{MSP|283|Surskit}}{{MSP|291|Ninjask}}{{MSP|545|Scolipede}}|Baton Pass|Normal|Status|—|—|40|}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|414|Mothim}}|Camouflage|Normal|Status|—|—|20|}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|617|Accelgor}}|Me First|Normal|Status|—|—|20|}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|290|Nincada}}{{MSP|291|Ninjask}}|Mind Reader|Normal|Status|—|—|5|}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|123|Scyther}}{{MSP|212|Scizor}}|Razor Wind|Normal|Special|80|100|10|}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|193|Yanma}}{{MSP|469|Yanmega}}{{MSP|207|Gligar}}{{MSP|472|Gliscor}}{{MSP|291|Ninjask}}{{MSP|329|Vibrava}} {{MSP|330|Flygon}}{{MSP|402|Kricketune}}{{MSP|543|Venipede}}{{MSP|544|Whirlipede}}{{MSP|545|Scolipede}}{{MSP|595|Joltik}} {{MSP|596|Galvantula}}|Screech|Normal|Status|—|85|40|}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|012|Butterfree}}{{MSP|049|Venomoth}}{{MSP|165|Ledyba}}{{MSP|166|Ledian}}{{MSP|267|Beautifly}}{{MSP|269|Dustox}} {{MSP|284|Masquerain}}{{MSP|414|Mothim}}{{MSP|637|Volcarona}}|Silver Wind|Bug|Special|60|100|5||||'''}}{{learnlist/breedf|Sewaddle|Bug|Grass|5|5}}

====By [[Move Tutor|tutoring]]====
{{learnlist/tutorh|Sewaddle|bug|grass|5|5}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Bug Bite|Bug|Physical|60|100|20||'''|no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Electroweb|Electric|Special|55|95|15|||no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Giga Drain|Grass|Special|75|100|10||'''|no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Iron Defense|Steel|Physical|—|—|15|||no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Magic Coat|Psychic|Status|—|—|15|||no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Seed Bomb|Grass|Physical|80|100|15||'''|no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Signal Beam|Bug|Special|75|100|15||'''|no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10|||no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Snore|Normal|Special|40|100|15|||no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Synthesis|Grass|Status|—|—|5|||no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Worry Seed|Grass|Status|—|100|10|||no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutorf|Sewaddle|bug|grass|5|5}}

===Side game data===
{{Sidegame|
type=Bug |
type2=Grass |
ndex=540 |
rumble2=yes|
rumble2attack=1 |
rumble2defense=3 |
rumble2speed=3 |
Pad2=Her job was to eat and sleep up until recently. She just started walking down her own path. |
Park2strong= |
Park2weak= |
Conquest=yes |
ConquestAtk=1 |
ConquestSpd=2 |
ConquestDef=2 |
ConquestHP=2 |
ConquestRange=3 |
ConquestMove={{m|Bug Bite}} |
ConquestAbility1={{DL|List of Abilities in Pokémon Conquest|Grass Cloak}} |
ConquestAbility2={{DL|List of Abilities in Pokémon Conquest|Stealth}} |
ConquestAbility3={{DL|List of Abilities in Pokémon Conquest|Herbivore}} |
ConquestEvo=Evolves into {{p|Swadloon}} when its Defense is 60 or higher |
ConquestLink={{DL|List of Pokémon Conquest characters|Ujichika}} and {{DL|List of Pokémon Conquest characters|Ujihiro}}
}}

===Evolution===
{{evobox-3
|type1=Bug
|type2=Grass
|pictype=art
|no1=540
|name1=Sewaddle
|type1-1=Bug
|type2-1=Grass
|evo1={{bag|Rare Candy}} {{color2|000|Level|Level 20}}
|no2=541
|name2=Swadloon
|type1-2=Bug
|type2-2=Grass
|evo2={{bag|Rare Candy}} + {{bag|Soothe Bell}} {{color2|000|Level|Level up}} with high {{color2|000|friendship}}
|no3=542
|name3=Leavanny
|type1-3=Bug
|type2-3=Grass
}}

===Sprites===
{{Sprite |
type=bug |
type2=grass |
gen=5 |
gender=none |
name=Sewaddle |
ndex=540 |
}}

==Trivia==
* Sewaddle was first seen after it was revealed on Yahoo's official Pokémon site. It was later released in the September issue of CoroCoro.

===Origin===
Sewaddle is based on the {{wp|caterpillar}} of the {{wp|Epargyreus clarus}}, who fold leaves over themselves for shelter and also produce silk.

====Name origin====
Sewaddle may be a combination of ''{{wp|sewing|sew}}'' and ''waddle'' (referring to how a baby walks) or ''swaddle'' (to wrap a baby in cloth).

Kurumiru may be derived from 包む ''kurumu'' (to wrap up) or 胡桃 ''kurumi'' ({{wp|Juglans|walnut tree}}).

==In other languages==
{{Other languages|type=bug|type2=grass
|ja=クルミル ''Kurumiru''|jameaning=From {{tt|包む ''kurumu''|to wrap up}} or {{tt|胡桃 ''kurumi''|walnut tree}}
|de=Strawickl|demeaning=From ''{{tt|Strahl|beam}}'' and ''{{tt|wickeln|to swaddle}}''
|fr=Larveyette|frmeaning=From ''{{tt|larve|larva}}'' and ''{{tt|layette|baby linen}}''
|es=Sewaddle|esmeaning=Same as English name
|it=Sewaddle|itmeaning=Same as English name
|ko=두르보 ''Dureubo''|komeaning=From {{tt|두르다 ''dureuda''|to wrap around, to wear}} and {{tt|보 (褓)|a wrapping cloth}}
|zh_cmn=蟲寶包 / 虫宝包 ''Chóngbǎobāo''|zh_cmnmeaning=From {{tt|蟲 ''chóng''|bug}}, {{tt|寶寶 ''bǎobǎo''|baby}} and {{tt|包 ''bāo''|to wrap}}.
}}
 

==Related articles==
* [[Ash's Swadloon|Ash's Sewaddle]]


==External links==
{{PokémonPrevNextFoot | prev=Sawk | next=Swadloon | prevnum=539 | nextnum=541 | type=Bug | type2=Grass }}
{{-}}
{{Project Pokédex notice}}

[[de:Strawickl]]
[[es:Sewaddle]]


[[fr:Larveyette]]
[[it:Sewaddle]]
[[ja:クルミル]]
[[pl:Sewaddle]]
[[zh:虫宝包]]

Talk:Celebrate (move)

2013-11-14T09:55:09Z

PokeMaster99999: /* Move Description? */ The page doesn't actually have a separate 'Effect' section; it only has the Japanese move description. I was thinking of Happy Hour.

== Move Description? ==

Could someone who knows Japanese and English please translate the move description? I'm guessing most of the visitors (and most likely members) cannot read Japanese.
Either that or get one of the Birthday Eevee/Umbreon/Sylveon on a Japanese save and trade it to an English save.
I've got the general gist from Google Translate, which says "Pokemon is willing to celebrate about you happy even if I take it". Obviously, online translators aren't the best, so I'd reckon the page would need either a human translator or the game's description.

Just one more thing: is it possible to start a new game in Japanese now that you can select the language and get Japanese events, or is it still region-locked? Like, "this is an Australian/American/European version of the game so you can't get Japan events"? [[User:PokeMaster99999|PokeMaster99999]] ([[User talk:PokeMaster99999|talk]]) 09:52, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Talk:Celebrate (move)

2013-11-14T09:52:47Z

PokeMaster99999: /* Move Description? */

== Move Description? ==

Could someone who knows Japanese and English please translate the move description? I'm guessing most of the visitors (and most likely members) cannot read Japanese.
Either that or get one of the Birthday Eevee/Umbreon/Sylveon on a Japanese save and trade it to an English save.
I've got the general gist from the effect and Google Translate, which says "Pokemon is willing to celebrate about you happy even if I take it". Obviously, online translators aren't the best, so I'd reckon the page would need either a human translator or the game's description.

Just one more thing: is it possible to start a new game in Japanese now that you can select the language and get Japanese events, or is it still region-locked? Like, "this is an Australian/American/European version of the game so you can't get Japan events"? [[User:PokeMaster99999|PokeMaster99999]] ([[User talk:PokeMaster99999|talk]]) 09:52, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Talk:Celebrate (move)

2013-11-14T09:52:10Z

PokeMaster99999:

== Move Description? ==

Could someone who knows Japanese and English please translate the move description? I'm guessing most of the visitors (and most likely members) cannot read Japanese.
Either that or get one of the Birthday Eevee/Umbreon/Sylveon on a Japanese save and trade it to an English save.
I've got the general gist from the effect and Google Translate, which says "Pokemon is willing to celebrate about you happy even if I take it". Obviously, online translators aren't the best, so I'd reckon the page would need either a human translator or the game's description.

Just one more thing: is it possible to start a new game in Japanese now that you can select the language and get Japanese events, or is it still region-locked? Like, "this is an Australian/American/European version of the game so you can't get Japan events"?[[User:PokeMaster99999|PokeMaster99999]] ([[User talk:PokeMaster99999|talk]]) 09:49, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Talk:Celebrate (move)

2013-11-14T09:49:15Z

PokeMaster99999: Created page with "Move Description? Could someone who knows Japanese and English please translate the move description? I'm guessing most of the visitors (and most likely members) cannot read ..."

Move Description?

Could someone who knows Japanese and English please translate the move description? I'm guessing most of the visitors (and most likely members) cannot read Japanese.
Either that or get one of the Birthday Eevee/Umbreon/Sylveon on a Japanese save and trade it to an English save.
I've got the general gist from the effect and Google Translate, which says "Pokemon is willing to celebrate about you happy even if I take it". Obviously, online translators aren't the best, so I'd reckon the page would need either a human translator or the game's description.

Just one more thing: is it possible to start a new game in Japanese now that you can select the language and get Japanese events, or is it still region-locked? Like, "this is an Australian/American/European version of the game so you can't get Japan events"?[[User:PokeMaster99999|PokeMaster99999]] ([[User talk:PokeMaster99999|talk]]) 09:49, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Talk:Pure Power (Ability)

2013-11-08T20:45:59Z

PokeMaster99999: Created page with "==Ability Box== It doesn't apply only to Pure Power, but the box still says "only 100% accurate to Generation V games", even though Mega Medicham's listed, which is one of the..."

==Ability Box==
It doesn't apply only to Pure Power, but the box still says "only 100% accurate to Generation V games", even though Mega Medicham's listed, which is one of the new features of Generation VI. Shouldn't the Ability boxes be updated to say "only 100% accurate to Generation VI"? I can't do it myself, as the text is part of the template, I believe.
It is in urgent need of an upgrade, however small and inconsequential it might seem. [[User:PokeMaster99999|PokeMaster99999]] ([[User talk:PokeMaster99999|talk]]) 20:45, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

Talk:Battle Chatelaine (Trainer class)

2013-10-31T10:38:09Z

PokeMaster99999: /* Battle Chatelaine Nita */

Talk:Battle Chatelaine (Trainer class)

2013-10-31T10:37:51Z

PokeMaster99999: Created page with "==Battle Chatelaine Nita== After a bit of research, I have found a bit of Nita's team. Sure, the knowledge that she has a Purugly, Grumpig and Wigglytuff is somewhat well-know..."

Talk:Kiloude City

2013-10-26T23:00:15Z

PokeMaster99999: Created page with "==Serena battle== I began formatting one of those 'Battle info boxes' (as I call them) for Serena, but it screwed up the one for Calem when I clicked 'Show Preview'. As such..."

==Serena battle==

I began formatting one of those 'Battle info boxes' (as I call them) for Serena, but it screwed up the one for Calem when I clicked 'Show Preview'.

As such, I am putting the info here, in the format used for the boxes:

If the {{player}} chose {{p|Chespin}}:
{{Party
|color={{y color}}
|headcolor={{y color light}}
|bordercolor={{y color dark}}
|sprite=None.png
|prize={{pdollar}}7000
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name={{color2|000|Serena (game)|Serena}}
|game={{color2|000|Pokémon X and Y|X and Y}}
|location=Kiloude City
|pokemon=6
|pokemon1={{Pokémon/6
|ndex=678
|pokemon=Meowstic
|level=66
|gender=female
|spritegender=female
|type1=Psychic
|ability=Unknown
|move1=Psychic|move1type=Psychic|move1cat=Special
|move2=Shadow Ball|move2type=Ghost|move2cat=Special}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon/6
|ndex=135
|pokemon=Jolteon
|level=66
|gender=male
|type1=Electric
|move1=Thunder|move1type=Electric|move1cat=Special
|ability=Volt Absorb}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon/6
|ndex=036
|pokemon=Clefable
|level=68
|gender=female
|type1=Fairy
|move1=Sing|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Status
|move2=Meteor Mash|move2type=Steel|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Moonblast|move3type=Fairy|move3cat=Special
|ability=Unknown}}
|pokemon4={{Pokémon/6
|ndex=334
|pokemon=Altaria
|level=67
|gender=female
|type1=Dragon
|type2=Flying
|ability=Unknown
|move1=Dazzling Gleam|move1type=Fairy|move1cat=Special
|move2=Confide|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status
|move3=Dragon Pulse|move3type=Dragon|move3cat=Special}}
|pokemon5={{Pokémon/6
|ndex=655
|pokemon=Delphox
|level=70
|gender=male
|type1=Fire
|type2=Psychic
|ability=Unknown
|move1=Psychic|move1type=Psychic|move1cat=Special}}
|pokemon6={{Pokémon/6
|ndex=359
|pokemon=Absol
|level=68
|gender=male
|type1=Dark
|ability=Unknown
|held=Absolite}}
}}{{-}}

Also, I'm just wondering: if an NPC Pokémon, like Serena's Delphox, has only 1 Non-Hidden Ability, couldn't we just put that in instead of 'Unknown'? It's just that, well, that never made sense to me - for example, I put Jolteon's Ability as Volt Absorb without testing that it had it, as NPC Pokémon never have Hidden Abilities. [[User:PokeMaster99999|PokeMaster99999]] ([[User talk:PokeMaster99999|talk]]) 23:00, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

Noivern (Pokémon)

2013-10-26T11:10:16Z

PokeMaster99999: /* By leveling up */ Moonlight is now Fairy-type, not Normal-type.

{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Noibat | next=Xerneas | type=Flying | type2=Dragon | prevnum=714 | nextnum=716}}
{{Pokémon Infobox|
name=Noivern |
jname=オンバーン |
tmname=Onvern |
pron=<sc></sc> |
species=Sound Wave |
typebox=1 |
type1=Flying |
type2=Dragon |
abilityn=d |
ability1=Frisk |
ability2=Infiltrator |
abilityd=Telepathy |
ndex=715 |
karea=Mountain |
kdex=114 |
height-ftin=4'11"|
height-m=1.5|
weight-lbs=187.4|
weight-kg=85|
egggroupn=1 |
egggroup1=Flying |
gendercode=256|
eggcycles=Unknown|
expyield=? |
lv100exp=Unknown|
color=Purple |
catchrate=0 |
body=09 |
pokefordex=Unknown |
generation=6 |
friendship=? |
footnotes=}}
'''Noivern''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''オンバーン''' ''Onvern'') is a dual-type {{2t|Flying|Dragon}} Pokémon.

It [[evolution|evolves]] from {{p|Noibat}} starting at [[level]] 48.

==Biology==
Noivern is extremely combative toward anything that wanders too close to it. It flies through even the darkest nights using ultrasonic waves it emits from its ears.

Noivern loves fruit, and feeding it fruit will keep it calm.

==In the anime==
===Major appearances===
Noivern debuted in ''[[BW137|Celebrating the Hero's Comet!]]'' under the ownership of [[Alexa]].

===Minor appearances===

===Pokédex entries===

==In the manga==

==In the TCG==
Noivern has not yet been featured in the [[Pokémon Trading Card Game]].

==Game data==
===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex
|type=Flying
|type2=Dragon
|gen=6
|xdex=They fly around on moonless nights and attack careless prey. Nothing can beat them in a battle in the dark.
|ydex=The ultrasonic waves it emits from its ears can reduce a large boulder to pebbles. It swoops out of the dark to attack.
}}

===Game locations===

===Stats===
====Base stats====
{{Base Stats|
type=Flying|
type2=Dragon|
HP=85|
Attack=70|
Defense=80|
SpAtk=97|
SpDef=80|
Speed=123}}

===Type effectiveness===
{{TypeEffectiveness|
type1=Flying|
type2=Dragon|
Normal= 100 |
Flying= 100 |
Fighting= 50 |
Ground= 0 |
Rock= 200 |
Bug= 50 |
Poison= 100 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 100 |
Fire= 50 |
Water= 50 |
Grass= 25 |
Electric=100 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 400 |
Dragon= 200 |
Dark= 100 |
Fairy= 200 |
notes=yes|
flying=yes|
newground=1}}

===Learnset===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{Learnlist/levelh/6|Noivern|Flying|Dragon|6}}
{{Learnlist/level6|Start|Moonlight|Fairy|Status|—|—|5}}
{{Learnlist/level6|Start|Boomburst|Normal|Special|140|100|10}}
{{Learnlist/level6|Start|Dragon Pulse|Dragon|Special|85|100|10||'''}}
{{Learnlist/level6|Start|Hurricane|Flying|Special|110|70|10||'''}}
{{Learnlist/level6|Start|Screech|Normal|Status|—|85|40}}
{{Learnlist/level6|Start|Supersonic|Normal|Status|—|55|20}}
{{Learnlist/level6|Start|Tackle|Normal|Physical|50|100|35}}
{{Learnlist/level6|5|Leech Life|Bug|Physical|20|100|15}}
{{Learnlist/level6|11|Gust|Flying|Special|40|100|35||'''}}
{{Learnlist/level6|13|Bite|Dark|Physical|60|100|25}}
{{Learnlist/level6|16|Wing Attack|Flying|Physical|60|100|35||'''}}
{{Learnlist/level6|18|Agility|Psychic|Status|—|—|30}}
{{Learnlist/level6|23|Air Cutter|Flying|Special|60|95|25||'''}}
{{Learnlist/level6|27|Roost|Flying|Status|—|—|10}}
{{Learnlist/level6|31|Razor Wind|Normal|Special|80|100|10}}
{{Learnlist/level6|35|Tailwind|Flying|Status|—|—|30}}
{{Learnlist/level6|40|Whirlwind|Normal|Status|—|—|20}}
{{Learnlist/level6|43|Super Fang|Normal|Physical|—|90|10}}
{{Learnlist/level6|53|Air Slash|Flying|Special|75|95|20||'''}}
{{Learnlist/level6|62|Hurricane|Flying|Special|110|70|10||'''}}
{{Learnlist/level6|70|Dragon Pulse|Dragon|Special|85|100|10||'''}}
{{Learnlist/level6|75|Boomburst|Normal|Special|140|100|10}}
{{Learnlist/levelf|Noivern|Flying|Dragon|6}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{learnlist/tmh/6|Noivern|Flying|Dragon|6}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM01|Hone Claws|Dark|Status|—|—|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM02|Dragon Claw|Dragon|Physical|80|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM06|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|90|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM10|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|60|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM11|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|—|—|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM12|Taunt|Dark|Status|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM15|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM17|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM19|Roost|Flying|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM21|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM22|Solar Beam|Grass|Special|120|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM27|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM29|Psychic|Psychic|Special|90|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM30|Shadow Ball|Ghost|Special|80|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM31|Brick Break|Fighting|Physical|75|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM32|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM35|Flamethrower|Fire|Special|90|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM40|Aerial Ace|Flying|Physical|60|—|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM41|Torment|Dark|Status|—|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM42|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM44|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM45|Attract|Normal|Status|—|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM46|Thief|Dark|Physical|60|100|25}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM48|Round|Normal|Special|60|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM49|Echoed Voice|Normal|Special|40|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM51|Steel Wing|Steel|Physical|70|90|25}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM52|Focus Blast|Fighting|Special|120|70|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM62|Acrobatics|Flying|Physical|55|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM65|Shadow Claw|Ghost|Physical|70|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM68|Giga Impact|Normal|Physical|150|90|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM81|X-Scissor|Bug|Physical|80|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM85|Dream Eater|Psychic|Special|100|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM87|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM88|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM89|U-turn|Bug|Physical|70|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM90|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM93|Wild Charge|Electric|Physical|90|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM100|Confide|Normal|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|HM01|Cut|Normal|Physical|50|95|30}}
{{learnlist/tm5|HM02|Fly|Flying|Physical|90|95|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tmf|Noivern|Flying|Dragon|5|6}}
|}

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====

====By [[Move Tutor|tutoring]]====
{{learnlist/tutorh/6|Noivern|Flying|Dragon|6}}
{{learnlist/tutor6|Draco Meteor|Dragon|Special|130|90|5||'''|yes|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutorf|Noivern|Flying|Dragon|5|6}}
|}

====By a prior [[evolution]]====

===Evolution===
{{evobox
|family=Normal
|sprite1=000
|name1=Noibat
|type1-1=Flying
|type2-1=Dragon
|evotype1=Level
|level1=48
|sprite2=000
|name2=Noivern
|type1-2=Flying
|type2-2=Dragon}}

===Sprites===

==Trivia==
* Noivern is the first dual-typed Pokémon with {{t|Flying}} as its primary type.

===Origin===
Noivern seems to be based on a combination of {{wp|wyvern}}, {{wp|Pteropus|fruit bat/flying fox}}, and {{wp|loudspeaker}} or {{wp|tweeter}}.

====Name origin====
Noivern may be a combination of ''noise'' and ''{{wp|wyvern}}''. 

Onvern may be a combination of 音 ''on'' (sound), 音波 ''onpa'' (sound wave), and ワイバーン ''wyvern''.

==In other languages==
{{Other languages|type=Flying|type2=Dragon
|ja=オンバーン ''Onvern''|jameaning=From {{tt|音 ''on''|sound}}, {{tt|音波 ''onpa''|sound wave}}, and ''wyvern''
|fr=Bruyverne |frmeaning=From ''{{tt|bruit|noise}}'' and ''{{tt|wyverne|wyvern}}
|es=Noivern |esmeaning=Same as English name
|de=UHaFnir |demeaning=From ''{{wp|UHF}}'' and ''{{wp|Fafnir}}
|it=Noivern |itmeaning=Same as English name
|ko=음번 ''Eumbeon''|komeaning=From {{tt|음 (音) ''eum''|sound}} and ''wyvern''}}
{{-}}

==External links==

{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Noibat | next=Xerneas | type=Flying | type2=Dragon | prevnum=714 | nextnum=716}}
{{Project Pokédex notice}}

[[de:UHaFnir]]
[[es:Noivern]]
[[fr:Bruyverne]]
[[it:Noivern]]
[[ja:オンバーン]]
[[zh:オンバーン]]

Whismur (Pokémon)

2013-10-24T19:51:21Z

PokeMaster99999: /* Game locations */

{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Shedinja | next=Loudred | prevnum=292 | nextnum=294 | type=normal}}
{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Whismur |
jname=ゴニョニョ |
tmname=Gonyonyo |
art=RS |
size=180px |
ndex=293 |
hdex=045 |
fbrow=176 |
type1=Normal |
species=Whisper |
height-ftin=2'00" |
height-m=0.6 |
weight-lbs=35.9 |
weight-kg=16.3 |
abilityn=1 |
ability1=Soundproof |
abilityd=Rattled |
egggroupn=2 |
egggroup1=Monster |
egggroup2=Field |
eggcycles=20 |
evhp=1 |
expyield=68 |
lv100exp=1,059,860 |
gendercode=127 |
color=Pink |
catchrate=190 |
body=06 |
pokefordex=whismur |
generation=3 |
footnotes=}}
'''Whismur''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''ゴニョニョ''' ''Gonyonyo'') is a {{type|Normal}} Pokémon.

It [[Evolution|evolves]] into {{p|Loudred}} starting at [[level]] 20, which evolves into {{p|Exploud}} starting at level 40.

==Biology==
Whismur is a mauve, bipedal Pokémon with a spherical body. It has two stubby arms and two round, yellow-tipped feet that lack toes. Its ear covers are long and rabbit-like with yellow tips, and the ear openings can be seen as a hole at the base of each ear cover. Its eyes appear as cross or plus sign-like black marks, and it has a simple, wide mouth usually shown open. It has a small, plug-like tail with a hole in it and a yellow crescent marking above it.

Whismur's murmurs are barely audible, but when it senses danger, it lets out a cry at an ear-splitting level. While it is crying, it will cry louder from being startled by its own cries. It breathes through its ear canals, which allow it to cry continually without having to breathe. It stops crying when its ear covers are shut. It lives in {{DL|List of Pokémon by habitat|Cave Pokémon|caves.}}

==In the anime==
[[File:Alanna Whismur.png|left|thumb|Whismur in the anime]]
===Major appearances===
A Whismur owned by [[Alanna]] first appeared in ''[[AG039|A Pokéblock Party!]]'' When {{an|Jigglypuff}} showed up to {{m|Sing}} for everyone, Whismur was the only one who stayed awake, due to {{a|Soundproof|its Ability}}.

{{MTR}} captured a trio of Whismur to perform for {{an|Giovanni}} in ''[[PK12|Gotta Dance!!]]''

A Whismur was one of the many Pokémon at the Pokémon Center in ''[[AG188|Pinch Healing!]]''

Another one appeared in ''[[DP109|Leading a Stray!]]'' where it was helping a {{p|Wailmer}} return to its friends.

===Minor appearances===
{{Ho|Guy}} had a flashback in ''[[AG066|Exploud and Clear!]]'' where he was shown to own a Whismur.

A Whismur appeared in ''[[M07|Destiny Deoxys]]''.

A Whismur appeared in ''[[AG119|The Ribbon Cup Caper]]'' at the ship’s Pokémon Center.

A Whismur also appeared in ''[[DP124|To Thine Own Pokémon Be True!]]''.

A Whismur made a brief appearance under the ownership of a Trainer in the [[Lily of the Valley Conference]] in ''[[DP182|An Old Family Blend!]]''.

A Whismur made a very brief appearance in ''[[DP183|League Unleashed!]]''.

===Pokédex entries===
{{Animedexheader|Hoenn}}
{{Animedexbody|AG039|Whismur|Ash's Pokédex|Whismur, the Whisper Pokémon. Whismur can become so startled by the sound of its own crying, that it will continue to cry until finally falling asleep from exhaustion.}}
{{Animedexfooter/Pokémon|''Advanced Generation''|Hoenn}}

==In the manga==
[[File:Konkon Attract.png|thumb|Whismur in [[Pokémon Adventures]]]]
===In the Pokémon Adventures manga===
A herd of Whismur first appeared during [[Magma Admin Courtney|Courtney]]'s attack on {{adv|Ruby}} in the [[Rusturf Tunnel]]. Their combined {{m|Hyper Voice}} attacks with several {{p|Loudred}} and {{p|Exploud}} proved useful in clearing the obstacles that blockaded the area.

Another Whismur, nicknamed Konkon, under the ownership of Mr. Mickey appeared while {{adv|Ruby}} was participating in a Pokémon Contest.

==In the TCG==
{{main|Whismur (TCG)}}

==Game data==
===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex
|type=normal
|gen=3
|rubydex=Normally, Whismur's voice is very quiet - it is barely audible even if one is paying close attention. However, if this Pokémon senses danger, it starts crying at an earsplitting volume.
|sapphiredex=Whismur is very timid. If it starts to {{m|Screech|cry loudly}}, it becomes startled by its own crying and cries even harder. When it finally stops crying, the Pokémon goes to sleep, all tired out.
|emeralddex=Its cries equal a jet plane in volume. It inhales through its ear canals. Because of this system, it can cry continually without having to catch its breath.
|frlgdex=It usually murmurs, but starts crying loudly if it senses danger. It stops when its ear covers are shut.
|dpptdex=Usually, its cries are like quiet murmurs. If frightened, it shrieks at the same volume as a jet plane.
|hgssdex=If it senses danger, it scares the foe by crying out with the volume of a jet-plane engine.
|bwdex=Usually, its cries are like quiet murmurs. If frightened, it shrieks at the same volume as a jet plane.
|b2w2dex=Usually, its cries are like quiet murmurs. If frightened, it shrieks at the same volume as a jet plane.
|xdex=It usually murmurs but starts crying loudly if it senses danger. It stops when its ear covers are shut.
|ydex=If it senses danger, it scares the foe by crying out with the volume of a jet-plane engine.
}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability |
gen=3 |
type=normal |
frlgex=rse |
rsrarity=Common |
rsarea={{rt|116|Hoenn}}, [[Rusturf Tunnel]], {{ho|Victory Road}} |
erarity=Common |
earea={{rt|116|Hoenn}}, [[Desert Underpass]], [[Rusturf Tunnel]], {{ho|Victory Road}} |
dparea=Breed {{p|Loudred}} |
ptarea=Breed {{p|Loudred}} |
hgssrarity=Common |
hgsssound=Hoenn |
hgssarea=[[Route]]s {{rtn|30|Johto}}, {{rtn|31|Johto}}, {{rtn|32|Johto}}, {{rtn|34|Johto}}, {{rtn|35|Johto}}, {{rtn|42|Johto}}, {{rtn|43|Johto}}, {{rtn|44|Johto}}, {{rtn|45|Johto}}, {{rtn|47|Johto}}, {{rtn|4|Kanto}}, {{rtn|6|Kanto}}, {{rtn|9|Kanto}}, {{rtn|10|Kanto}}, {{rtn|13|Kanto}}, {{rtn|21|Kanto}}, {{rtn|22|Kanto}}, {{rtn|24|Kanto}}, {{rtn|25|Kanto}}, {{rtn|26|Kanto}}, {{rtn|27|Kanto}}, {{rtn|28|Kanto}}, [[Ruins of Alph]], [[Mt. Silver]]|
palarea=Mountain |
bwrarity=Unknown |
bwarea=[[White Forest]] |
gen5ex=white |
b2w2ex=none |
b2w2area=[[Trade]]|
dwarea={{dwa|Icy Cave}} |

xyrarity=Common |
xyarea=[[Connecting Cave]] |
}}

====In side games====
{{SidegameAvail
|type=normal
|pinballrs=Hatch from Egg
|trozei=[[Huge Storage 3]] Endless Level 10 Pair Trozei [[Mr. Who's Den]]
|md=[[Howling Forest]] (1F-8F) [[Buried Relic]] (4F-8F)
|ranger=[[Panula Cave]]
|md2=[[Marine Resort]] (1F-18F: Random Assortment)
|rumble2=Cave: [[Rugged Flats]]
}}

====In events====
{{eventAvail/h|type=normal}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev3|FRLG}}{{gameabbrev3|E}}|PokéPark Egg Whismur|Japanese|Japan|5|March 12 to May 8, 2005|link=List of Japanese event Pokémon distributions in Generation III#Whismur}}
|}

===Held items===
{{HeldItems|type=normal
|rse1=Chesto Berry|rse1type=Berry|rse1rar=5
|hgss1=Chesto Berry|hgss1type=Berry|hgss1rar=5
|w1=Chesto Berry|w1type=Berry|w1rar=5
}}

===Stats===
====Base stats====
{{BaseStats|
type=normal |
HP= 64 |
Attack= 51 |
Defense=23 |
SpAtk= 51 |
SpDef= 23 |
Speed= 28 }}

====Pokéathlon stats====
{{Pokéthlon
|type=Normal
|Speed=4
|SpeedMax=5
|Power=2
|PowerMax=3
|Technique=2
|TechniqueMax=4
|Stamina=3
|StaminaMax=3
|Jump=2
|JumpMax=3
}}

===Type effectiveness===
{{Type effectiveness|
type1=normal |
Normal= 100 |
Fighting=200 |
Flying= 100 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 100 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 100 |
Ghost= 0 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 100 |
Water= 100 |
Grass= 100 |
Electric=100 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 100 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 |

notes=yes|
normal=yes|
newghost=1}}

===Learnset===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{learnlist/levelh|Whismur|Normal|Normal|5|3}}
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Pound|Normal|Physical|40|100|35||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|5|Uproar|Normal|Special|90|100|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|11|Astonish|Ghost|Physical|30|100|15}}
{{learnlist/level5|15|Howl|Normal|Status|—|—|40}}
{{learnlist/level5|21|Supersonic|Normal|Status|—|55|20}}
{{learnlist/level5|25|Stomp|Normal|Physical|65|100|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|31|Screech|Normal|Status|—|85|40}}
{{learnlist/level5|35|Roar|Normal|Status|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/level5|41|Synchronoise|Psychic|Special|70|100|15}}
{{learnlist/level5|45|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/level5|45|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/level5|51|Hyper Voice|Normal|Special|90|100|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/levelf|Whismur|Normal|Normal|5|3}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{learnlist/tmh|Whismur|Normal|Normal|5|3}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM05|Roar|Normal|Status|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM06|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|90|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM10|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|—|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM11|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|—|—|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM13|Ice Beam|Ice|Special|95|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM14|Blizzard|Ice|Special|120|70|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM17|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM18|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM21|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM22|SolarBeam|Grass|Special|120|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM27|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM30|Shadow Ball|Ghost|Special|80|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM32|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM35|Flamethrower|Fire|Special|95|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM38|Fire Blast|Fire|Special|120|85|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM42|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM44|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM45|Attract|Normal|Status|—|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM48|Round|Normal|Special|60|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM49|Echoed Voice|Normal|Special|40|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM56|Fling|Dark|Physical|—|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM59|Incinerate|Fire|Special|30|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM67|Retaliate|Normal|Physical|70|100|5||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM83|Work Up|Normal|Status|—|—|30}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM87|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM90|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tmf|Whismur|Normal|Normal|5|3}}

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
{{learnlist/breedh|Whismur|Normal|Normal|5|3}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|427|Buneary}}{{MSP|428|Lopunny}}{{MSP|448|Lucario}}|Circle Throw|Fighting|Physical|60|90|10|||*}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|019|Rattata}}{{MSP|020|Raticate}}{{MSP|104|Cubone}}{{MSP|105|Marowak}}{{MSP|206|Dunsparce}}{{MSP|258|Mudkip}} {{MSP|259|Marshtomp}}{{MSP|260|Swampert}}{{MSP|409|Rampardos}}{{MSP|527|Woobat}}{{MSP|528|Swoobat}}|Endeavor|Normal|Physical|—|100|5}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|037|Vulpix}}{{MSP|038|Ninetales}}{{MSP|274|Nuzleaf}}{{MSP|275|Shiftry}}|Extrasensory|Psychic|Special|80|100|30}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|216|Teddiursa}}{{MSP|217|Ursaring}}{{MSP|303|Mawile}}{{MSP|570|Zorua}}{{MSP|571|Zoroark}}|Fake Tears|Dark|Status|40|100|15}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|112|Rhydon}}{{MSP|464|Rhyperior}}{{MSP|217|Ursaring}}{{MSP|260|Swampert}}{{MSP|289|Slaking}}{{MSP|500|Emboar}}{{MSP|555|Darmanitan}}|Hammer Arm|Fighting|Physical|100|90|10}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|056|Mankey}}{{MSP|057|Primeape}}{{MSP|108|Lickitung}}{{MSP|463|Lickilicky}}{{MSP|209|Snubbull}}{{MSP|210|Granbull}} {{MSP|255|Torchic}}{{MSP|256|Combusken}}{{MSP|257|Blaziken}}{{MSP|304|Aron}}{{MSP|305|Lairon}}{{MSP|306|Aggron}} {{MSP|327|Spinda}}{{MSP|619|Mienfoo}}{{MSP|620|Mienshao}}|SmellingSalt|Normal|Physical|60|100|10|||*|'''}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|004|Charmander}}{{MSP|005|Charmeleon}}{{MSP|006|Charizard}}{{MSP|155|Cyndaquil}}{{MSP|156|Quilava}}{{MSP|157|Typhlosion}} {{MSP|324|Torkoal}}{{MSP|434|Stunky}}{{MSP|435|Skuntank}}|SmokeScreen|Normal|Status|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|143|Snorlax}}{{MSP|216|Teddiursa}}{{MSP|217|Ursaring}}{{MSP|325|Spoink}}{{MSP|326|Grumpig}}{{MSP|363|Spheal}} {{MSP|364|Sealeo}}{{MSP|365|Walrein}}|Snore|Normal|Special|40|100|15||||'''}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|001|Bulbasaur}}{{MSP|002|Ivysaur}}{{MSP|003|Venusaur}}{{MSP|058|Growlithe}}{{MSP|059|Arcanine}}{{MSP|077|Ponyta}} {{MSP|078|Rapidash}}{{MSP|086|Seel}}{{MSP|087|Dewgong}}{{MSP|111|Rhyhorn}}{{MSP|112|Rhydon}}{{MSP|464|Rhyperior}} {{MSP|128|Tauros}}{{MSP|133|Eevee}}{{MSP|134|Vaporeon}}{{MSP|135|Jolteon}}{{MSP|136|Flareon}}{{MSP|196|Espeon}} {{MSP|197|Umbreon}}{{MSP|470|Leafeon}}{{MSP|471|Glaceon}}{{MSP|206|Dunsparce}}{{MSP|209|Snubbull}}{{MSP|210|Granbull}} {{MSP|220|Swinub}}{{MSP|221|Piloswine}}{{MSP|473|Mamoswine}}{{MSP|231|Phanpy}}{{MSP|232|Donphan}}{{MSP|234|Stantler}} {{MSP|258|Mudkip}}{{MSP|259|Marshtomp}}{{MSP|260|Swampert}}{{MSP|261|Poochyena}}{{MSP|262|Mightyena}}{{MSP|304|Aron}} {{MSP|305|Lairon}}{{MSP|306|Aggron}}{{MSP|322|Numel}}{{MSP|323|Camerupt}}{{MSP|399|Bidoof}}{{MSP|400|Bibarel}} {{MSP|408|Cranidos}}{{MSP|409|Rampardos}}{{MSP|410|Shieldon}}{{MSP|411|Bastiodon}}{{MSP|443|Gible}}{{MSP|444|Gabite}} {{MSP|445|Garchomp}}{{MSP|449|Hippopotas}}{{MSP|450|Hippowdon}}{{MSP|498|Tepig}}{{MSP|499|Pignite}}{{MSP|500|Emboar}} {{MSP|506|Lillipup}}{{MSP|507|Herdier}}{{MSP|508|Stoutland}}{{MSP|585|Deerling}}{{MSP|586|Sawsbuck}}|Take Down|Normal|Physical|90|85|20||||'''}}
{{learnlist/breedf|Whismur|Normal|Normal|5|3}}

====By [[Move Tutor|tutoring]]====
{{learnlist/tutorh|Whismur|normal|normal|5|3}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Endeavor|Normal|Physical|—|100|5|||no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Fire Punch|Fire|Physical|75|100|15|||no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Hyper Voice|Normal|Special|90|100|10||'''|no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Ice Punch|Ice|Physical|75|100|15|||no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10|||no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Snore|Normal|Special|40|100|15||'''|no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|ThunderPunch|Electric|Physical|75|100|15|||no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Uproar|Normal|Special|90|100|10||'''|no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Zen Headbutt|Psychic|Physical|80|90|15|||no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutorf|Whismur|normal|normal|5|3}}

===={{pkmn|Dream World}} moves====
{{learnlist/eventh|Whismur|normal|normal|5|3}}
{{learnlist/event5|{{dwa|Icy Cave}}|Zen Headbutt|Psychic|Physical|80|90|15}}
{{learnlist/event5|{{dwa|Icy Cave}}|Endeavor|Normal|Physical|—|100|5}}
{{learnlist/eventf|Whismur|normal|normal|5|3}}

===Side game data===
{{Sidegame|
type=normal |
ndex=293 |
pinballrs=Hatch |
Trozei=yes |
rarity=Common |
Dungeon=yes |
body=1 |
rate=8.8 |
area=Echo Cave |
P1=Whisper... Murmur... |
P2=Whisper... HP is... Murmur... Half... |
P3=Whisper... No more... Murmur... No more HP... |
PL=Whisper... Level... Murmur... Up... |
Partner=no |
Ranger=yes |
group=Normal |
Assist=no |
fieldpower=0 |
field=None |
loop=4 |
MinEXP=25 |
MaxEXP=35 |
browser=Whismur is nimble and hard to capture. Touching it makes it cry out in shock. |
Dungeon2=yes |
body2=1 |
rate2=8.2 |
iq=B |
rumble2=yes |
rumble2attack=1 |
rumble2defense=1 |
rumble2speed=3 |
}}

===Evolution===
{{evobox
|family=Normal
|sprite1=293
|name1=Whismur
|type1-1=Normal
|evotype1=Level
|level1=20
|sprite2=294
|name2=Loudred
|type1-2=Normal
|evotype2=Level
|level2=40
|sprite3=295
|name3=Exploud
|type1-3=Normal}}

===Sprites===
{{Sprite|
type=normal|
gen=3|
gender=none|
ndex=293|
name=Whismur|
}}

==Trivia==
* Whismur's base stats all rise by 20 when it evolves into {{p|Loudred}}.

===Origin===
Whismur is based on a {{wp|rabbit}} or a {{wp|stuffed animal}}, and its ears resemble {{wp|earmuffs}} which are used to protect one's ears against loud noises. It may also be based on an electronic amplifier as its tail resembles an input or output port.

====Name origin====
Whismur is a combination of ''whisper'' and ''murmur'', both of which mean speaking in a very soft voice.

Gonyonyo is derived from ごにょごにょ ''gonyogonyo'', the sound of mumbling, murmuring, or whispering.

==In other languages==
{{Other languages|type=normal|type2=normal
|ja=ゴニョニョ ''Gonyonyo''|jameaning=From {{tt|ごにょごにょ ''gonyogonyo''|the sound of mumbling, murmuring, or whispering}}
|fr=Chuchmur|frmeaning=From {{tt|''chuchoter''|whisper}} and ''murmur.''
|es=Whismur|esmeaning=Same as English name
|de=Flurmel|demeaning=From {{tt|''flüstern''|to whisper}} and {{tt|''murmeln''|to mutter}}
|it=Whismur|itmeaning=Same as English name
|ko=소곤룡 ''Sogonryong''|komeaning=From {{tt|소고 ''sogo''|a small hand drum}}, {{tt|수군수군 ''sugun-sugun''|whispering}}, and {{tt|룡(龍) ''ryong''|(Chinese) dragon}}
|zh_cmn=咕妞妞 ''Gūniūniū'' |zh_cmnmeaning=Literally "Murmuring girl". Also phonetically similar to its Japanese name
}}

 

==External links==

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