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Talk:Diancie (Pokémon)

2014-02-20T01:54:11Z

Poke1: /* Diance and the others. */

==Userspace==
Out of curiosity, is this meant to be part of your user talk, or the actual page for Diancie (Pokemon). Because the page for Diancie (Pokemon has no text on it.--[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 23:15, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
:Pages are occasionally developed in the userspace and moved to the mainspace later on, rather than making it directly in the mainspace. It should be moving to the mainspace soon though. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 23:40, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
::Thanks for clarifying, I was pretty confused!--[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 02:02, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

==Category==
Just wondering, why is Diancie listed on [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Category:Pok%C3%A9mon_whose_Special_stat_became_both_Special_Attack_and_Special_Defense this page], when it does not fit that category? --[[User:GoldenSandslash15|GoldenSandslash15]] ([[User talk:GoldenSandslash15|talk]]) 04:57, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
:It's because the BaseStat template on the page was empty, so the cat is added by default when that happens. [[User:ArcToraphim|Kai]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 05:16, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
::It's just because the base stats template has all 0's in it right now. The math that that template does interprets that (or rather, the SpAtk and SpDef parts) as "Special stat became both Special Attack and Special Defense". The template could be commented out for now (which got done), or we could just let it sit, as is, until we can put the right stats in there. Or someone could also just change the 0's to -1's. That'd still be recognizable as dummy data, and it wouldn't set the category.
::I would point out, ArcToraphim, that Zygarde has a TCG section that looks exactly like Diancie's did before you hid it (that's what I took it from in fact). I just think they should be treated the same (one way or the other). (Likewise the manga section...) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:26, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

==Unknown Pokémon==
Would [[Template:Unknown Pokémon]] be appropriate here? [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|'''Miles''']] ([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|talk]]) 05:17, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

== biology ==

wouldn't it be more accurate to say headdress instead of hair?[[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 02:09, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
:Since I was the one who added in the biology, I think headdress sounds better now that I think about it. Will change it if it's okay with everyone...or I would have, but it's protected. [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 02:24, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

== Ability ==

It was recently revealed in clearer CoroCoro scans that Diancie's ability is {{a|Clear Body}}. Could someone add this? --[[User:GoldenSandslash15|GoldenSandslash15]] ([[User talk:GoldenSandslash15|talk]]) 05:12, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

== Diancie and Carbink ==

Would it be worth mentioning in the Trivia section that Diancie shares several similarities with Carbink, including its type? [[User:Eskay64|Eskay64]] ([[User talk:Eskay64|talk]]) 11:53, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
:Their shared species name should be put, but that's about it. Lots of Pokémon have the same type combinations and similar origins. [[User:Glik|Glik]] ([[User talk:Glik|talk]]) 13:43, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
::It's not just that they have the same type combination, they're the only Pokémon to have it. Also, they have the same regular Ability (and similar stat distibution, though the exact numbers aren't known). I think they have so many similarities that they all are worth noting.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 14:08, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
::: Not to mention the similar Japanese names: Melecie, Diancie. Too many similarities to ignore. - [[User:Taylor|Taylor]] ([[User talk:Taylor|talk]]) 14:12, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
::::Shared species name? Maybe. Same type combination? No, even if they're the only ones to have it, they are not related. Base stats? No. We don't even know Diancie's base stats. Name? Leaning towards no. Origins? It could be mentioned in the origin section, but not as trivia.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 14:24, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
:::::I thought we axed comparison trivia a while ago. Just because two Pokemon are very similar doesn't mean we should have to note it. I agree with the shared species name, but we don't need to state the obvious IMO. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 18:11, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
Its a waste of time and resources to note every single thing two Pokémon or more share in common. Why does any of this have to be on this or Carbink's pages? If anything it would more fit in with the fannon page, even if I think its just a waste of productive resources IMO [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 19:32, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
:Well, now there's an official link between the two, since one of Diancie's Pokédex entries calls Diancie [http://www.pokemonxy.com/_ui/img/_en/screenshots/february/diancie_01.jpg "A sudden transformation of Carbink"]. - [[User:Blazios|Blazios]] [[User Talk:Blazios|talk]] 15:15, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
::This isn't the first time a Pokémon, even a legendary Pokémon, has spontaneously formed from a lesser Pokémon, life form or substance. Deoxys came from a simple virus that mutated when exposed to laser radiation. Grimer came about from a sudden mutation of industrial pollutants, same as Muk IIRC. Garbador and it's line are also a similar case. Doduo was discovered as a sudden mutation from a never revealed previous Pokémon. Koffing is another example, in the Y Pokédex (and probably a dex from a previous gen) states "Very rarely, a sudden mutation can result in two small Koffing twins becoming conjoined as a Weezing." Bagon wanted to fly, and a spontaneous change in its cells gave it that wish. Shedinja appears out of the blue when a Nincada evolves into a Ninjask. The genetic disaster known as Eevee is the poster child for sudden mutations. Heck, its not even Pokémon anymore, but also even the berries in the games can now suddenly produce mutations. And its believed all Pokémon outside of Arceus and the trios it created come from Mew.

::Over time Pokémon don't just evolve into a new stage, but they also evolve in a Darwin-like fashion. Their genes become stronger or weaker, they begin to take on new shapes and even coloration. But going back to the Doduo thing, we never mention the Pokémon it mutated from, and treat it as a whole new Pokémon altogether without having "evolved" from the previous Pokémon, which like I said has never been revealed. Also touching back onto the Shedinja thing as well, it too is not 100% considered to be a evolution of Nincada, and is also treated as its own Pokémon for most intents and purposes.

::Unfortunately its still too early to really say much about this new development. Since little info is around, we don't want to make ourselves look foolish by latching onto the smallest bit of info and make a mountain out of an anthill sort-of-speak. For all we know right now, it might turn out that Carbink/Diancie is a {{wp|Zooid}} similar to the Portuguese Man o' war. So until more information is released, we have to remain diligent in preventing speculation and spreading misinformation. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 18:19, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

So I have a question, are Diancie and Carbink not releated according to a Pokémon fan website? --[[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ''([[User talk:Cinday123|Talk]])'' 23:21, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

:They are related according to a Pokédex entry, but so far nothing more. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy (瀬藤健二)]] ([[User talk:Schiffy|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|Contribs]]) 23:23,2/14/2014 (UTC)
::So are they're the ones that will never evolve? --[[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ''([[User talk:Cinday123|Talk]])'' 23:26, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

:::We don't know at the moment. Information is only just coming out. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy (瀬藤健二)]] ([[User talk:Schiffy|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|Contribs]]) 23:27,2/14/2014 (UTC)

::::More or less you can think of their relationship this way. They are related in a similar manner that Plusle and Minun or Sawk and Throh are related. Its clear they share a distinct relationship to one another, but the origin of how each one came to be different from the other has yet to be revealed.

::::To put a real world spin on it, think about how the domesticated dog, in all its breeds are all related to and have ancestry with the Wolf. A wolf and a beagle are clearly thought and classified as separate animals, but the beagle still derives form the wolf regardless of this.

::::I'm not sure if I helped explain it or made it more confusing, but that's my observation of the situation. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 18:08, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

== Plus, Diance was discovered by a hacker. ==

Diance was discovered by a hacker. applys to the other 2 as well. [[User:Igor The Mii|Igor The Mii]] ([[User talk:Igor The Mii|talk]]) 19:06, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
:That's not really relevant to the article..... [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy (瀬藤健二)]] ([[User talk:Schiffy|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|Contribs]]) 19:07,2/13/2014 (UTC)

== Base Stats ==

According to http://uk.news.yahoo.com/pokemon-diancie-legendary-character-arrive-pokemon-x-y-113013968.html#G3DXfZk Dianice's base stats are Her base stats: HP 60, Attack 75, Defense 175, Special Attack 75, Special Defense 175, Speed 50, total 610.

I'm not sure how reliable this is, but I thought I would bring it up. If this is true, we know that Dianice is not this Gen's "Mew". [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 19:57, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
== Signature move ==
Being a hacker myself I have found that it's signature move is Diamond Storm, rock type move it has 100 power and 95 acc and is like skull bash, it charges up and razes defense and next turn attacks. [[User:Superbobbobbob3|Superbobbobbob3]] ([[User talk:Superbobbobbob3|talk]]) 16:02, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
:We only use information that is official, so until it's announced in CoroCoro or some other official resource, we won't use this information. Thank you, though. :) --[[User:FireGambit|'''FireGambit''']] [[User talk:FireGambit|'''(talk)''']] 16:04, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
::First of all, that isn't true at all, Superbobbobbob3. We've already known from an actual photograph from the same hacker who discovered Diancie (Smealum) - and is therefore far more reliable - that Diancie has a signature move called Diamond Storm, and we've already known its type, power, and accuracy. We also know that it is NOT like Skull Bash, but a single-turn move that merely has a chance of raising defense when completed. Please don't take credit for Smealum's discovery, even if you did change it to the point of being false. [[User:EpicDeino|EpicDeino]] ([[User talk:EpicDeino|talk]]) 16:17, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
:::I'm not taking credit for his discovery (as I only looked into Diancie because of him), I'm giving you the info that I know from hacking in my game, I didn't know that it was a one turn move because my game freezes when it uses it, plus the move info sounds like it's like skull bash or a nother charge move (and if you are wrong I am going to be all told you so) it says quote "the user WHIPS UP a storm of diamonds to damage the opposing pokemon, this may also raise the users defense stat" whip up sounds a lot like razer wind and how it charges.[[User:Superbobbobbob3|Superbobbobbob3]] ([[User talk:Superbobbobbob3|talk]]) 20:46, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
::::Just to inform you, every move that take two turns to execute ({{m|Solar Beam}}, {{m|Razor Wind}}, {{m|Geomancy}}, {{m|Skull Bash}}, etc) all note more that one turn is involved in their descriptions. What's been circulating about Diamond Storm makes no indication of that. [[User:ArcToraphim|Kai]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 20:58, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

== Genderless ==
According to screenshots on pokemonxy.com, Diancie is genderless.
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== Base HP ==

Diancie's HP at level 50 is 125 as shown in a screenshot at Pokemon.com. This is the same as Carbink at level 50 with 31 IVs in HP and no EVs. Diancie's base HP is 50, the same as Carbink. This is also further supported by leaks. [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]]) 18:58, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

It is possible that it could be higher or lower. We don't know the IVs and/or EVs of the Diancie in the screenshots. --[[User talk:Relicant|The]] [[Special:Contributions/Relicant|Truth]] aka Relicant 19:02, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

== Regarding Diancie and the other two leaked Pokemon ==

A while back when the Gen IV and V games first launched, we had articles of Pokemon like [[Arceus]] and [[Genesect]] well before official sources revealed them or gave them artwork. So why with Gen VI we're being forced to wait for official sources to reveal these event legendaries before we start articles on them? [[User:Superjustinbros.|Superjustinbros.]] ([[User talk:Superjustinbros.|talk]]) 19:15, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
:At the first leak of the three legends, we only had one source that said for certain that these three (Diancie, Volcanion, Hoopa), are in the game's data. This one single hacker was the only first hand source, as every other site that had them claiming to exist sourced him. Anyone in a journalism field will tell you that one source is not enough, and this (at least in my opinion) should apply to Wikis as well. So at the current moment, while we do have official confirmation from CoroCoro that Diancie exists, we still only have one first hand source saying that the other two do. Granted, we will most likely hear from official sources sooner or later, but for now, it's staying as is. Just to not flood yet another talk page with this, the full discussion from ''before'' Diancie was revealed on this topic can be read {{DL|Bulbapedia talk:Editor's Hub|Regarding Volcanion, Hoopa and Diancie|here}}. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy (瀬藤健二)]] ([[User talk:Schiffy|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|Contribs]]) 19:26,2/14/2014 (UTC)
::Also there is a fact that hacking 3DS is far harder than DS. Digging into data to prove that they exist is anything but easy. [[User:Eridanus|Eridanus]] ([[User talk:Eridanus|talk]]) 21:45, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

== Pokédex entry ==

The Pokédex entry is out now, so should it be added on the page, or do we wait for the revelation of which version the entry belongs to? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 20:12, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
:Yes we do.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 20:20, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

== Categories ==

Because it's missing the Legendary Pokémon and Kalos Legendary Pokémon categories, will a staff member add it? --[[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ''([[User talk:Cinday123|Talk]])'' 01:15, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

== Korean name ==

Can someone add the Korean name because it was just confirmed? --[[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ''([[User talk:Cinday123|Talk]])'' 10:39, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
:Do you have a source link? Nintendo Korea nor their official website appears to have it. [[User:G50|''ㄱ'']][[User talk:G50|''쉰'']] G50 11:47, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

::Here's the source link right [http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-xy/719.shtml here] for Diancie's Korean name. --[[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ''([[User talk:Cinday123|Talk]])'' 11:53, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
:::Only official sources may be used. Fansites may not be used as a source for information. [[User:G50|''ㄱ'']][[User talk:G50|''쉰'']] G50 11:58, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

::::OK, so when Diancie will appear on a Pokémon official website in Korean? --[[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ''([[User talk:Cinday123|Talk]])'' 12:04, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
:::::It'll probably be in a couple of days. [http://pokemonxy.pokemonkorea.co.kr/news.html This link] will update when Diancie is officially announced for Korea. [[User:G50|''ㄱ'']][[User talk:G50|''쉰'']] G50 12:10, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
::::::Um, check on its page, Diancie got the Korean name when translated and trademarked Diancie, you should change it to Diansi. --[[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ''([[User talk:Cinday123|Talk]])'' 06:27, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

== Better Quality Image ==

So, the Financial Post has an article about Diancie with a nice, clear image. [http://wpmedia.business.financialpost.com/2014/02/diancie_pokemon_x_and_y_002.jpg] I would go and upload it myself, but I'm not sure I have permission to do that (what with this article being super-important and all), nor am I too sure about how. If somebody could upload it, that'd be great!

(Sorry if this isn't the best spot to say this, by the way.) [[User:~Piika|~Piika]] ([[User talk:~Piika|talk]]) 18:43, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
:A clear, 1280px image has already been uploaded; it just takes some time to update.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 19:01, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
::Press the F5 button while on the page, it will then reload with the new image.[[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 19:07, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

== Category request ==

Because the category Promotion-only Pokémon, I would like to request this by adding this category to this page. --[[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ''([[User talk:Cinday123|Talk]])'' 00:04, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

== English name ==

I was wondering could the English name come also from the word Fiancée. It's "dress" looks really much like wedding dress and its name resembles the word. ([[User:Heke97|Heke97]] ([[User talk:Heke97|talk]]) 11:35, 19 February 2014 (UTC))
:That's too much of a stretch.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:58, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

== Diance and the other legendary pokemon ==

Since the hacker correctly predicted a diancie does that mean the other two legendaries he revealed are real as well?
PS: I forgot how to sign my username and stuff.

Talk:Diancie (Pokémon)

2014-02-20T01:52:30Z

Poke1: /* Diance and the others. */

==Userspace==
Out of curiosity, is this meant to be part of your user talk, or the actual page for Diancie (Pokemon). Because the page for Diancie (Pokemon has no text on it.--[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 23:15, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
:Pages are occasionally developed in the userspace and moved to the mainspace later on, rather than making it directly in the mainspace. It should be moving to the mainspace soon though. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 23:40, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
::Thanks for clarifying, I was pretty confused!--[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 02:02, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

==Category==
Just wondering, why is Diancie listed on [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Category:Pok%C3%A9mon_whose_Special_stat_became_both_Special_Attack_and_Special_Defense this page], when it does not fit that category? --[[User:GoldenSandslash15|GoldenSandslash15]] ([[User talk:GoldenSandslash15|talk]]) 04:57, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
:It's because the BaseStat template on the page was empty, so the cat is added by default when that happens. [[User:ArcToraphim|Kai]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 05:16, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
::It's just because the base stats template has all 0's in it right now. The math that that template does interprets that (or rather, the SpAtk and SpDef parts) as "Special stat became both Special Attack and Special Defense". The template could be commented out for now (which got done), or we could just let it sit, as is, until we can put the right stats in there. Or someone could also just change the 0's to -1's. That'd still be recognizable as dummy data, and it wouldn't set the category.
::I would point out, ArcToraphim, that Zygarde has a TCG section that looks exactly like Diancie's did before you hid it (that's what I took it from in fact). I just think they should be treated the same (one way or the other). (Likewise the manga section...) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:26, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

==Unknown Pokémon==
Would [[Template:Unknown Pokémon]] be appropriate here? [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|'''Miles''']] ([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|talk]]) 05:17, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

== biology ==

wouldn't it be more accurate to say headdress instead of hair?[[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 02:09, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
:Since I was the one who added in the biology, I think headdress sounds better now that I think about it. Will change it if it's okay with everyone...or I would have, but it's protected. [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 02:24, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

== Ability ==

It was recently revealed in clearer CoroCoro scans that Diancie's ability is {{a|Clear Body}}. Could someone add this? --[[User:GoldenSandslash15|GoldenSandslash15]] ([[User talk:GoldenSandslash15|talk]]) 05:12, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

== Diancie and Carbink ==

Would it be worth mentioning in the Trivia section that Diancie shares several similarities with Carbink, including its type? [[User:Eskay64|Eskay64]] ([[User talk:Eskay64|talk]]) 11:53, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
:Their shared species name should be put, but that's about it. Lots of Pokémon have the same type combinations and similar origins. [[User:Glik|Glik]] ([[User talk:Glik|talk]]) 13:43, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
::It's not just that they have the same type combination, they're the only Pokémon to have it. Also, they have the same regular Ability (and similar stat distibution, though the exact numbers aren't known). I think they have so many similarities that they all are worth noting.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 14:08, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
::: Not to mention the similar Japanese names: Melecie, Diancie. Too many similarities to ignore. - [[User:Taylor|Taylor]] ([[User talk:Taylor|talk]]) 14:12, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
::::Shared species name? Maybe. Same type combination? No, even if they're the only ones to have it, they are not related. Base stats? No. We don't even know Diancie's base stats. Name? Leaning towards no. Origins? It could be mentioned in the origin section, but not as trivia.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 14:24, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
:::::I thought we axed comparison trivia a while ago. Just because two Pokemon are very similar doesn't mean we should have to note it. I agree with the shared species name, but we don't need to state the obvious IMO. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 18:11, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
Its a waste of time and resources to note every single thing two Pokémon or more share in common. Why does any of this have to be on this or Carbink's pages? If anything it would more fit in with the fannon page, even if I think its just a waste of productive resources IMO [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 19:32, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
:Well, now there's an official link between the two, since one of Diancie's Pokédex entries calls Diancie [http://www.pokemonxy.com/_ui/img/_en/screenshots/february/diancie_01.jpg "A sudden transformation of Carbink"]. - [[User:Blazios|Blazios]] [[User Talk:Blazios|talk]] 15:15, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
::This isn't the first time a Pokémon, even a legendary Pokémon, has spontaneously formed from a lesser Pokémon, life form or substance. Deoxys came from a simple virus that mutated when exposed to laser radiation. Grimer came about from a sudden mutation of industrial pollutants, same as Muk IIRC. Garbador and it's line are also a similar case. Doduo was discovered as a sudden mutation from a never revealed previous Pokémon. Koffing is another example, in the Y Pokédex (and probably a dex from a previous gen) states "Very rarely, a sudden mutation can result in two small Koffing twins becoming conjoined as a Weezing." Bagon wanted to fly, and a spontaneous change in its cells gave it that wish. Shedinja appears out of the blue when a Nincada evolves into a Ninjask. The genetic disaster known as Eevee is the poster child for sudden mutations. Heck, its not even Pokémon anymore, but also even the berries in the games can now suddenly produce mutations. And its believed all Pokémon outside of Arceus and the trios it created come from Mew.

::Over time Pokémon don't just evolve into a new stage, but they also evolve in a Darwin-like fashion. Their genes become stronger or weaker, they begin to take on new shapes and even coloration. But going back to the Doduo thing, we never mention the Pokémon it mutated from, and treat it as a whole new Pokémon altogether without having "evolved" from the previous Pokémon, which like I said has never been revealed. Also touching back onto the Shedinja thing as well, it too is not 100% considered to be a evolution of Nincada, and is also treated as its own Pokémon for most intents and purposes.

::Unfortunately its still too early to really say much about this new development. Since little info is around, we don't want to make ourselves look foolish by latching onto the smallest bit of info and make a mountain out of an anthill sort-of-speak. For all we know right now, it might turn out that Carbink/Diancie is a {{wp|Zooid}} similar to the Portuguese Man o' war. So until more information is released, we have to remain diligent in preventing speculation and spreading misinformation. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 18:19, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

So I have a question, are Diancie and Carbink not releated according to a Pokémon fan website? --[[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ''([[User talk:Cinday123|Talk]])'' 23:21, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

:They are related according to a Pokédex entry, but so far nothing more. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy (瀬藤健二)]] ([[User talk:Schiffy|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|Contribs]]) 23:23,2/14/2014 (UTC)
::So are they're the ones that will never evolve? --[[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ''([[User talk:Cinday123|Talk]])'' 23:26, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

:::We don't know at the moment. Information is only just coming out. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy (瀬藤健二)]] ([[User talk:Schiffy|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|Contribs]]) 23:27,2/14/2014 (UTC)

::::More or less you can think of their relationship this way. They are related in a similar manner that Plusle and Minun or Sawk and Throh are related. Its clear they share a distinct relationship to one another, but the origin of how each one came to be different from the other has yet to be revealed.

::::To put a real world spin on it, think about how the domesticated dog, in all its breeds are all related to and have ancestry with the Wolf. A wolf and a beagle are clearly thought and classified as separate animals, but the beagle still derives form the wolf regardless of this.

::::I'm not sure if I helped explain it or made it more confusing, but that's my observation of the situation. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 18:08, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

== Plus, Diance was discovered by a hacker. ==

Diance was discovered by a hacker. applys to the other 2 as well. [[User:Igor The Mii|Igor The Mii]] ([[User talk:Igor The Mii|talk]]) 19:06, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
:That's not really relevant to the article..... [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy (瀬藤健二)]] ([[User talk:Schiffy|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|Contribs]]) 19:07,2/13/2014 (UTC)

== Base Stats ==

According to http://uk.news.yahoo.com/pokemon-diancie-legendary-character-arrive-pokemon-x-y-113013968.html#G3DXfZk Dianice's base stats are Her base stats: HP 60, Attack 75, Defense 175, Special Attack 75, Special Defense 175, Speed 50, total 610.

I'm not sure how reliable this is, but I thought I would bring it up. If this is true, we know that Dianice is not this Gen's "Mew". [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 19:57, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
== Signature move ==
Being a hacker myself I have found that it's signature move is Diamond Storm, rock type move it has 100 power and 95 acc and is like skull bash, it charges up and razes defense and next turn attacks. [[User:Superbobbobbob3|Superbobbobbob3]] ([[User talk:Superbobbobbob3|talk]]) 16:02, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
:We only use information that is official, so until it's announced in CoroCoro or some other official resource, we won't use this information. Thank you, though. :) --[[User:FireGambit|'''FireGambit''']] [[User talk:FireGambit|'''(talk)''']] 16:04, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
::First of all, that isn't true at all, Superbobbobbob3. We've already known from an actual photograph from the same hacker who discovered Diancie (Smealum) - and is therefore far more reliable - that Diancie has a signature move called Diamond Storm, and we've already known its type, power, and accuracy. We also know that it is NOT like Skull Bash, but a single-turn move that merely has a chance of raising defense when completed. Please don't take credit for Smealum's discovery, even if you did change it to the point of being false. [[User:EpicDeino|EpicDeino]] ([[User talk:EpicDeino|talk]]) 16:17, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
:::I'm not taking credit for his discovery (as I only looked into Diancie because of him), I'm giving you the info that I know from hacking in my game, I didn't know that it was a one turn move because my game freezes when it uses it, plus the move info sounds like it's like skull bash or a nother charge move (and if you are wrong I am going to be all told you so) it says quote "the user WHIPS UP a storm of diamonds to damage the opposing pokemon, this may also raise the users defense stat" whip up sounds a lot like razer wind and how it charges.[[User:Superbobbobbob3|Superbobbobbob3]] ([[User talk:Superbobbobbob3|talk]]) 20:46, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
::::Just to inform you, every move that take two turns to execute ({{m|Solar Beam}}, {{m|Razor Wind}}, {{m|Geomancy}}, {{m|Skull Bash}}, etc) all note more that one turn is involved in their descriptions. What's been circulating about Diamond Storm makes no indication of that. [[User:ArcToraphim|Kai]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 20:58, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

== Genderless ==
According to screenshots on pokemonxy.com, Diancie is genderless.
{{unsigned|JRBockus}}

== Base HP ==

Diancie's HP at level 50 is 125 as shown in a screenshot at Pokemon.com. This is the same as Carbink at level 50 with 31 IVs in HP and no EVs. Diancie's base HP is 50, the same as Carbink. This is also further supported by leaks. [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]]) 18:58, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

It is possible that it could be higher or lower. We don't know the IVs and/or EVs of the Diancie in the screenshots. --[[User talk:Relicant|The]] [[Special:Contributions/Relicant|Truth]] aka Relicant 19:02, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

== Regarding Diancie and the other two leaked Pokemon ==

A while back when the Gen IV and V games first launched, we had articles of Pokemon like [[Arceus]] and [[Genesect]] well before official sources revealed them or gave them artwork. So why with Gen VI we're being forced to wait for official sources to reveal these event legendaries before we start articles on them? [[User:Superjustinbros.|Superjustinbros.]] ([[User talk:Superjustinbros.|talk]]) 19:15, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
:At the first leak of the three legends, we only had one source that said for certain that these three (Diancie, Volcanion, Hoopa), are in the game's data. This one single hacker was the only first hand source, as every other site that had them claiming to exist sourced him. Anyone in a journalism field will tell you that one source is not enough, and this (at least in my opinion) should apply to Wikis as well. So at the current moment, while we do have official confirmation from CoroCoro that Diancie exists, we still only have one first hand source saying that the other two do. Granted, we will most likely hear from official sources sooner or later, but for now, it's staying as is. Just to not flood yet another talk page with this, the full discussion from ''before'' Diancie was revealed on this topic can be read {{DL|Bulbapedia talk:Editor's Hub|Regarding Volcanion, Hoopa and Diancie|here}}. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy (瀬藤健二)]] ([[User talk:Schiffy|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|Contribs]]) 19:26,2/14/2014 (UTC)
::Also there is a fact that hacking 3DS is far harder than DS. Digging into data to prove that they exist is anything but easy. [[User:Eridanus|Eridanus]] ([[User talk:Eridanus|talk]]) 21:45, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

== Pokédex entry ==

The Pokédex entry is out now, so should it be added on the page, or do we wait for the revelation of which version the entry belongs to? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 20:12, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
:Yes we do.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 20:20, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

== Categories ==

Because it's missing the Legendary Pokémon and Kalos Legendary Pokémon categories, will a staff member add it? --[[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ''([[User talk:Cinday123|Talk]])'' 01:15, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

== Korean name ==

Can someone add the Korean name because it was just confirmed? --[[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ''([[User talk:Cinday123|Talk]])'' 10:39, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
:Do you have a source link? Nintendo Korea nor their official website appears to have it. [[User:G50|''ㄱ'']][[User talk:G50|''쉰'']] G50 11:47, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

::Here's the source link right [http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-xy/719.shtml here] for Diancie's Korean name. --[[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ''([[User talk:Cinday123|Talk]])'' 11:53, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
:::Only official sources may be used. Fansites may not be used as a source for information. [[User:G50|''ㄱ'']][[User talk:G50|''쉰'']] G50 11:58, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

::::OK, so when Diancie will appear on a Pokémon official website in Korean? --[[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ''([[User talk:Cinday123|Talk]])'' 12:04, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
:::::It'll probably be in a couple of days. [http://pokemonxy.pokemonkorea.co.kr/news.html This link] will update when Diancie is officially announced for Korea. [[User:G50|''ㄱ'']][[User talk:G50|''쉰'']] G50 12:10, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
::::::Um, check on its page, Diancie got the Korean name when translated and trademarked Diancie, you should change it to Diansi. --[[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ''([[User talk:Cinday123|Talk]])'' 06:27, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

== Better Quality Image ==

So, the Financial Post has an article about Diancie with a nice, clear image. [http://wpmedia.business.financialpost.com/2014/02/diancie_pokemon_x_and_y_002.jpg] I would go and upload it myself, but I'm not sure I have permission to do that (what with this article being super-important and all), nor am I too sure about how. If somebody could upload it, that'd be great!

(Sorry if this isn't the best spot to say this, by the way.) [[User:~Piika|~Piika]] ([[User talk:~Piika|talk]]) 18:43, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
:A clear, 1280px image has already been uploaded; it just takes some time to update.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 19:01, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
::Press the F5 button while on the page, it will then reload with the new image.[[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 19:07, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

== Category request ==

Because the category Promotion-only Pokémon, I would like to request this by adding this category to this page. --[[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ''([[User talk:Cinday123|Talk]])'' 00:04, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

== English name ==

I was wondering could the English name come also from the word Fiancée. It's "dress" looks really much like wedding dress and its name resembles the word. ([[User:Heke97|Heke97]] ([[User talk:Heke97|talk]]) 11:35, 19 February 2014 (UTC))
:That's too much of a stretch.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:58, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

== Diance and the others. ==

Since the hacker correctly predicted a diancie does that mean the other two legendaries he revealed are real as well?
PS: I forgot how to sign my username and stuff.

Talk:Diancie (Pokémon)

2014-02-20T01:51:55Z

Poke1: /* Diance and the others. */ new section

==Userspace==
Out of curiosity, is this meant to be part of your user talk, or the actual page for Diancie (Pokemon). Because the page for Diancie (Pokemon has no text on it.--[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 23:15, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
:Pages are occasionally developed in the userspace and moved to the mainspace later on, rather than making it directly in the mainspace. It should be moving to the mainspace soon though. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 23:40, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
::Thanks for clarifying, I was pretty confused!--[[User:BigBadBatter|BigBadBatter]] ([[User talk:BigBadBatter|talk]]) 02:02, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

==Category==
Just wondering, why is Diancie listed on [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Category:Pok%C3%A9mon_whose_Special_stat_became_both_Special_Attack_and_Special_Defense this page], when it does not fit that category? --[[User:GoldenSandslash15|GoldenSandslash15]] ([[User talk:GoldenSandslash15|talk]]) 04:57, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
:It's because the BaseStat template on the page was empty, so the cat is added by default when that happens. [[User:ArcToraphim|Kai]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 05:16, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
::It's just because the base stats template has all 0's in it right now. The math that that template does interprets that (or rather, the SpAtk and SpDef parts) as "Special stat became both Special Attack and Special Defense". The template could be commented out for now (which got done), or we could just let it sit, as is, until we can put the right stats in there. Or someone could also just change the 0's to -1's. That'd still be recognizable as dummy data, and it wouldn't set the category.
::I would point out, ArcToraphim, that Zygarde has a TCG section that looks exactly like Diancie's did before you hid it (that's what I took it from in fact). I just think they should be treated the same (one way or the other). (Likewise the manga section...) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 05:26, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

==Unknown Pokémon==
Would [[Template:Unknown Pokémon]] be appropriate here? [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|'''Miles''']] ([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|talk]]) 05:17, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

== biology ==

wouldn't it be more accurate to say headdress instead of hair?[[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 02:09, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
:Since I was the one who added in the biology, I think headdress sounds better now that I think about it. Will change it if it's okay with everyone...or I would have, but it's protected. [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 02:24, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

== Ability ==

It was recently revealed in clearer CoroCoro scans that Diancie's ability is {{a|Clear Body}}. Could someone add this? --[[User:GoldenSandslash15|GoldenSandslash15]] ([[User talk:GoldenSandslash15|talk]]) 05:12, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

== Diancie and Carbink ==

Would it be worth mentioning in the Trivia section that Diancie shares several similarities with Carbink, including its type? [[User:Eskay64|Eskay64]] ([[User talk:Eskay64|talk]]) 11:53, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
:Their shared species name should be put, but that's about it. Lots of Pokémon have the same type combinations and similar origins. [[User:Glik|Glik]] ([[User talk:Glik|talk]]) 13:43, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
::It's not just that they have the same type combination, they're the only Pokémon to have it. Also, they have the same regular Ability (and similar stat distibution, though the exact numbers aren't known). I think they have so many similarities that they all are worth noting.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 14:08, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
::: Not to mention the similar Japanese names: Melecie, Diancie. Too many similarities to ignore. - [[User:Taylor|Taylor]] ([[User talk:Taylor|talk]]) 14:12, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
::::Shared species name? Maybe. Same type combination? No, even if they're the only ones to have it, they are not related. Base stats? No. We don't even know Diancie's base stats. Name? Leaning towards no. Origins? It could be mentioned in the origin section, but not as trivia.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 14:24, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
:::::I thought we axed comparison trivia a while ago. Just because two Pokemon are very similar doesn't mean we should have to note it. I agree with the shared species name, but we don't need to state the obvious IMO. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 18:11, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
Its a waste of time and resources to note every single thing two Pokémon or more share in common. Why does any of this have to be on this or Carbink's pages? If anything it would more fit in with the fannon page, even if I think its just a waste of productive resources IMO [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 19:32, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
:Well, now there's an official link between the two, since one of Diancie's Pokédex entries calls Diancie [http://www.pokemonxy.com/_ui/img/_en/screenshots/february/diancie_01.jpg "A sudden transformation of Carbink"]. - [[User:Blazios|Blazios]] [[User Talk:Blazios|talk]] 15:15, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
::This isn't the first time a Pokémon, even a legendary Pokémon, has spontaneously formed from a lesser Pokémon, life form or substance. Deoxys came from a simple virus that mutated when exposed to laser radiation. Grimer came about from a sudden mutation of industrial pollutants, same as Muk IIRC. Garbador and it's line are also a similar case. Doduo was discovered as a sudden mutation from a never revealed previous Pokémon. Koffing is another example, in the Y Pokédex (and probably a dex from a previous gen) states "Very rarely, a sudden mutation can result in two small Koffing twins becoming conjoined as a Weezing." Bagon wanted to fly, and a spontaneous change in its cells gave it that wish. Shedinja appears out of the blue when a Nincada evolves into a Ninjask. The genetic disaster known as Eevee is the poster child for sudden mutations. Heck, its not even Pokémon anymore, but also even the berries in the games can now suddenly produce mutations. And its believed all Pokémon outside of Arceus and the trios it created come from Mew.

::Over time Pokémon don't just evolve into a new stage, but they also evolve in a Darwin-like fashion. Their genes become stronger or weaker, they begin to take on new shapes and even coloration. But going back to the Doduo thing, we never mention the Pokémon it mutated from, and treat it as a whole new Pokémon altogether without having "evolved" from the previous Pokémon, which like I said has never been revealed. Also touching back onto the Shedinja thing as well, it too is not 100% considered to be a evolution of Nincada, and is also treated as its own Pokémon for most intents and purposes.

::Unfortunately its still too early to really say much about this new development. Since little info is around, we don't want to make ourselves look foolish by latching onto the smallest bit of info and make a mountain out of an anthill sort-of-speak. For all we know right now, it might turn out that Carbink/Diancie is a {{wp|Zooid}} similar to the Portuguese Man o' war. So until more information is released, we have to remain diligent in preventing speculation and spreading misinformation. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 18:19, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

So I have a question, are Diancie and Carbink not releated according to a Pokémon fan website? --[[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ''([[User talk:Cinday123|Talk]])'' 23:21, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

:They are related according to a Pokédex entry, but so far nothing more. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy (瀬藤健二)]] ([[User talk:Schiffy|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|Contribs]]) 23:23,2/14/2014 (UTC)
::So are they're the ones that will never evolve? --[[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ''([[User talk:Cinday123|Talk]])'' 23:26, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

:::We don't know at the moment. Information is only just coming out. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy (瀬藤健二)]] ([[User talk:Schiffy|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|Contribs]]) 23:27,2/14/2014 (UTC)

::::More or less you can think of their relationship this way. They are related in a similar manner that Plusle and Minun or Sawk and Throh are related. Its clear they share a distinct relationship to one another, but the origin of how each one came to be different from the other has yet to be revealed.

::::To put a real world spin on it, think about how the domesticated dog, in all its breeds are all related to and have ancestry with the Wolf. A wolf and a beagle are clearly thought and classified as separate animals, but the beagle still derives form the wolf regardless of this.

::::I'm not sure if I helped explain it or made it more confusing, but that's my observation of the situation. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 18:08, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

== Plus, Diance was discovered by a hacker. ==

Diance was discovered by a hacker. applys to the other 2 as well. [[User:Igor The Mii|Igor The Mii]] ([[User talk:Igor The Mii|talk]]) 19:06, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
:That's not really relevant to the article..... [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy (瀬藤健二)]] ([[User talk:Schiffy|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|Contribs]]) 19:07,2/13/2014 (UTC)

== Base Stats ==

According to http://uk.news.yahoo.com/pokemon-diancie-legendary-character-arrive-pokemon-x-y-113013968.html#G3DXfZk Dianice's base stats are Her base stats: HP 60, Attack 75, Defense 175, Special Attack 75, Special Defense 175, Speed 50, total 610.

I'm not sure how reliable this is, but I thought I would bring it up. If this is true, we know that Dianice is not this Gen's "Mew". [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 19:57, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
== Signature move ==
Being a hacker myself I have found that it's signature move is Diamond Storm, rock type move it has 100 power and 95 acc and is like skull bash, it charges up and razes defense and next turn attacks. [[User:Superbobbobbob3|Superbobbobbob3]] ([[User talk:Superbobbobbob3|talk]]) 16:02, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
:We only use information that is official, so until it's announced in CoroCoro or some other official resource, we won't use this information. Thank you, though. :) --[[User:FireGambit|'''FireGambit''']] [[User talk:FireGambit|'''(talk)''']] 16:04, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
::First of all, that isn't true at all, Superbobbobbob3. We've already known from an actual photograph from the same hacker who discovered Diancie (Smealum) - and is therefore far more reliable - that Diancie has a signature move called Diamond Storm, and we've already known its type, power, and accuracy. We also know that it is NOT like Skull Bash, but a single-turn move that merely has a chance of raising defense when completed. Please don't take credit for Smealum's discovery, even if you did change it to the point of being false. [[User:EpicDeino|EpicDeino]] ([[User talk:EpicDeino|talk]]) 16:17, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
:::I'm not taking credit for his discovery (as I only looked into Diancie because of him), I'm giving you the info that I know from hacking in my game, I didn't know that it was a one turn move because my game freezes when it uses it, plus the move info sounds like it's like skull bash or a nother charge move (and if you are wrong I am going to be all told you so) it says quote "the user WHIPS UP a storm of diamonds to damage the opposing pokemon, this may also raise the users defense stat" whip up sounds a lot like razer wind and how it charges.[[User:Superbobbobbob3|Superbobbobbob3]] ([[User talk:Superbobbobbob3|talk]]) 20:46, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
::::Just to inform you, every move that take two turns to execute ({{m|Solar Beam}}, {{m|Razor Wind}}, {{m|Geomancy}}, {{m|Skull Bash}}, etc) all note more that one turn is involved in their descriptions. What's been circulating about Diamond Storm makes no indication of that. [[User:ArcToraphim|Kai]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 20:58, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

== Genderless ==
According to screenshots on pokemonxy.com, Diancie is genderless.
{{unsigned|JRBockus}}

== Base HP ==

Diancie's HP at level 50 is 125 as shown in a screenshot at Pokemon.com. This is the same as Carbink at level 50 with 31 IVs in HP and no EVs. Diancie's base HP is 50, the same as Carbink. This is also further supported by leaks. [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]]) 18:58, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

It is possible that it could be higher or lower. We don't know the IVs and/or EVs of the Diancie in the screenshots. --[[User talk:Relicant|The]] [[Special:Contributions/Relicant|Truth]] aka Relicant 19:02, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

== Regarding Diancie and the other two leaked Pokemon ==

A while back when the Gen IV and V games first launched, we had articles of Pokemon like [[Arceus]] and [[Genesect]] well before official sources revealed them or gave them artwork. So why with Gen VI we're being forced to wait for official sources to reveal these event legendaries before we start articles on them? [[User:Superjustinbros.|Superjustinbros.]] ([[User talk:Superjustinbros.|talk]]) 19:15, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
:At the first leak of the three legends, we only had one source that said for certain that these three (Diancie, Volcanion, Hoopa), are in the game's data. This one single hacker was the only first hand source, as every other site that had them claiming to exist sourced him. Anyone in a journalism field will tell you that one source is not enough, and this (at least in my opinion) should apply to Wikis as well. So at the current moment, while we do have official confirmation from CoroCoro that Diancie exists, we still only have one first hand source saying that the other two do. Granted, we will most likely hear from official sources sooner or later, but for now, it's staying as is. Just to not flood yet another talk page with this, the full discussion from ''before'' Diancie was revealed on this topic can be read {{DL|Bulbapedia talk:Editor's Hub|Regarding Volcanion, Hoopa and Diancie|here}}. [[User:Schiffy|Schiffy (瀬藤健二)]] ([[User talk:Schiffy|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Schiffy|Contribs]]) 19:26,2/14/2014 (UTC)
::Also there is a fact that hacking 3DS is far harder than DS. Digging into data to prove that they exist is anything but easy. [[User:Eridanus|Eridanus]] ([[User talk:Eridanus|talk]]) 21:45, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

== Pokédex entry ==

The Pokédex entry is out now, so should it be added on the page, or do we wait for the revelation of which version the entry belongs to? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 20:12, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
:Yes we do.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 20:20, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

== Categories ==

Because it's missing the Legendary Pokémon and Kalos Legendary Pokémon categories, will a staff member add it? --[[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ''([[User talk:Cinday123|Talk]])'' 01:15, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

== Korean name ==

Can someone add the Korean name because it was just confirmed? --[[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ''([[User talk:Cinday123|Talk]])'' 10:39, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
:Do you have a source link? Nintendo Korea nor their official website appears to have it. [[User:G50|''ㄱ'']][[User talk:G50|''쉰'']] G50 11:47, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

::Here's the source link right [http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-xy/719.shtml here] for Diancie's Korean name. --[[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ''([[User talk:Cinday123|Talk]])'' 11:53, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
:::Only official sources may be used. Fansites may not be used as a source for information. [[User:G50|''ㄱ'']][[User talk:G50|''쉰'']] G50 11:58, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

::::OK, so when Diancie will appear on a Pokémon official website in Korean? --[[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ''([[User talk:Cinday123|Talk]])'' 12:04, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
:::::It'll probably be in a couple of days. [http://pokemonxy.pokemonkorea.co.kr/news.html This link] will update when Diancie is officially announced for Korea. [[User:G50|''ㄱ'']][[User talk:G50|''쉰'']] G50 12:10, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
::::::Um, check on its page, Diancie got the Korean name when translated and trademarked Diancie, you should change it to Diansi. --[[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ''([[User talk:Cinday123|Talk]])'' 06:27, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

== Better Quality Image ==

So, the Financial Post has an article about Diancie with a nice, clear image. [http://wpmedia.business.financialpost.com/2014/02/diancie_pokemon_x_and_y_002.jpg] I would go and upload it myself, but I'm not sure I have permission to do that (what with this article being super-important and all), nor am I too sure about how. If somebody could upload it, that'd be great!

(Sorry if this isn't the best spot to say this, by the way.) [[User:~Piika|~Piika]] ([[User talk:~Piika|talk]]) 18:43, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
:A clear, 1280px image has already been uploaded; it just takes some time to update.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 19:01, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
::Press the F5 button while on the page, it will then reload with the new image.[[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 19:07, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

== Category request ==

Because the category Promotion-only Pokémon, I would like to request this by adding this category to this page. --[[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ''([[User talk:Cinday123|Talk]])'' 00:04, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

== English name ==

I was wondering could the English name come also from the word Fiancée. It's "dress" looks really much like wedding dress and its name resembles the word. ([[User:Heke97|Heke97]] ([[User talk:Heke97|talk]]) 11:35, 19 February 2014 (UTC))
:That's too much of a stretch.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:58, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

== Diance and the others. ==

Since the hacker correctly predicted a diancie does that mean the other two legendaries he revealed are real as well?

M15

2012-09-18T00:33:06Z

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'''Kyurem VS. The Sword of Justice''' (Japanese: '''キュレムVS聖剣士ケルディオ''' ''Kyurem VS the Sacred Swordsman: Keldeo'') is the second {{series|Best Wishes}} movie and the fifteenth [[Pokémon movie]] overall. It premiered in Japanese theaters on July 14, 2012. It will premiere in the US on Cartoon Network on December 8, 2012.

The movie features {{p|Kyurem}} and its two formes and the [[legendary musketeers]]: {{p|Cobalion}}, {{p|Terrakion}}, {{p|Virizion}} and {{p|Keldeo}}.

M15 features the [[Pikachu Shorts|Pikachu Short]] movie ''[[PK24|Meloetta's Dazzling Recital]]''.

==Other posters and logos==
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File:M15 teaser poster.png|Kyurem VS the Sacred Swordsman
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File:M15 Pikachu the Movie poster.png|Pikachu the Movie 15th poster
File:Pikachu the Movie M15.png|Pikachu the Movie 15th logo
File:Pikachu and Keldeo M15.png|Keldeo and Pikachu in one of the artworks
File:Movie15.jpg| English Logo for Kyurem vs The Sword of Justice
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==Featured Pokémon==
* {{p|Kyurem}}
* {{p|Cobalion}}
* {{p|Terrakion}}
* {{p|Virizion}}
* {{p|Keldeo}}

==Debuts==
* {{p|Kyurem}}
* {{p|Cobalion}}
* {{p|Terrakion}}
* {{p|Virizion}}
* {{p|Keldeo}}

==Characters==
===Human===
* {{Ash}}
* {{an|Iris}}
* {{an|Cilan}}
* [[Jessie]]
* [[James]]
* [[Nurse Joy]]
* [[Malin]]
* [[Elder]] (flashback)
* [[Mother and daughter]]
* Station attendant

===Pokémon===
* {{p|Pikachu}} ({{OP|Ash|Pikachu}})
* {{p|Axew}} ({{OP|Iris|Axew}})
* {{p|Meowth}} ({{TRM}})

* {{p|Oshawott}} ({{OP|Ash|Oshawott}})
* {{p|Pignite}} ({{OP|Ash|Pignite}})
* {{p|Snivy}} ({{OP|Ash|Snivy}})
* {{p|Scraggy}} ({{OP|Ash|Scraggy}})


* {{p|Boldore}} ({{OP|Ash|Boldore}})


* {{p|Emolga}} ({{OP|Iris|Emolga}})
* {{p|Pansage}} ({{OP|Cilan|Pansage}})
* {{p|Crustle}} ({{OP|Cilan|Crustle}})
* {{p|Stunfisk}} ({{OP|Cilan|Stunfisk}})


* {{p|Audino}} ({{OP|Nurse Joy|Audino}})
* {{p|Vanillite}} ([[Malin]]'s)
* {{p|Kyurem}} ([[Kyurem (M15)|wild]])
* {{p|Keldeo}} ([[Keldeo (M15)|wild]])
* {{p|Cobalion}}
* {{p|Terrakion}}
* {{p|Virizion}}
* {{p|Cryogonal}} (multiple)






* {{p|Druddigon}}

==Cast==
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{{cast|Unova2|Ash's Pikachu|disp=Pikachu|Ikue Ohtani|Pikachu|Ikue Ohtani|ピカチュウ|大谷育江}}
{{cast|Unova2|Cilan (anime)|disp=Cilan|Jason Griffith|Dent|Mamoru Miyano|デント|宮野真守}}
{{cast|Unova2|Iris (anime)|disp=Iris|Eileen Stevens|Iris|Aoi Yūki|アイリス|悠木碧}}
{{cast|Unova2|Iris's Axew|disp=Axew|Kayzie Rogers|Kibago|Minami Tsuda|キバゴ|津田美波}}
{{cast|Unova2|Nurse Joy|Alyson Rosenfeld|Joy|Chika Fujimura|ジョーイ |藤村知可}}
{{cast|Unova2|Narrator|disp=Narration|Rodger Parsons|Narration|Unshō Ishizuka|ナレーション|石塚運昇|bottom=yes}}
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{{cast|Unova2|Malin|none|Malin|Rola|マリン|ローラ|top=yes}}
{{cast|Unova2|Keldeo (M15)|disp=Keldeo|none|Keldeo|Shōko Nakagawa|ケルディオ|中川翔子}}
{{cast|Unova2|Cobalion (Pokémon)|disp=Cobalion|none|Cobalon|Kōichi Yamadera|コバルオン|山寺宏一}}
{{cast|Unova2|Terrakion (Pokémon)|disp=Terrakion|none|Terrakion|Hiroki Yasumoto|テラキオン|安元洋貴}}
{{cast|Unova2|Virizion (Pokémon)|disp=Virizion|none|Virizion|Takako Honda|ビリジオン|本田貴子}}
{{cast|Unova2|Kyurem (M15)|disp=Kyurem|none|Kyurem|Katsumi Takahashi|キュレム|高橋克実|bottom=yes}}
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==Soundtrack==
{{main|Kyurem VS the Sacred Swordsman: Keldeo / Meloetta's Dazzling Recital Music Collection}}

==Events==

==Trivia==
* This is the fourth consecutive film in which Ash and his friends do not encounter Team Rocket. It is also the first movie in which Jessie, James and Meowth do not have speaking roles, only making brief cameo appearances in the introduction, credits and one scene during the actual story.
* Despite being released during Best Wishes Season 2, this film does not feature any pre-Generation V Pokémon other than Pikachu and Meowth.
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==External links==
*[http://www.pokemon-movie.jp Japanese movie website]
*[http://www.pokemon.co.jp/anime/movie Pokemon.co.jp movie website]

==See also==
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Legendary Pokémon

2012-05-23T00:37:32Z

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[[File:Entei_Book.png|thumb|right|370px|An artist's interpretation of {{p|Entei}}, a legendary Pokémon, in the anime.]]
'''Legendary Pokémon''' are a group of incredibly rare and often very powerful {{OBP|Pokémon|species}}.

While in English, all are typically grouped under the banner of "legendary", there are three distinct terms in Japanese that are used to refer to them. One, '''伝説のポケモン''' ''densetsu no Pokémon'', literally "legendary Pokémon", refers to Pokémon such as {{p|Kyogre}} and {{p|Groudon}}, who are featured prominently in the legends of the Pokémon world. A second, '''幻のポケモン''' ''maboroshi no Pokémon'', literally "illusory Pokémon", refers to Pokémon seen so rarely, such as {{p|Mew}}, that some question their very existence. This term was translated in the [[Generation IV]] games as "mirage Pokémon", in reference to the various [[Sinnoh myths|myths of Sinnoh]], and many consider it to refer to Pokémon that are restricted to [[event Pokémon|Nintendo event]]s, not available during the course of normal gameplay. The third and newest term is '''神話のポケモン''' ''shinwa no Pokémon'', literally "mythical Pokémon", which refers to the Pokémon which are spoken of as the creators of the Sinnoh region.

==Characteristics of legendary Pokémon==

===Statistical averages{{tt|*|Considering Alternate Formes as separate Pokémon, counting Arceus once only and without Phione}}===
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HP=93.13 |
Attack=106.21 |
Defense=99.42 |
SpAtk=111.51 |
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Speed=101.15 }}

Aside from the high [[stats]] shared by most legendary Pokémon, many of them are only available once to the {{player}} in a given save file, and to obtain another legitimately, one must [[trade]] with another game. The [[gender]] of most legendary Pokémon is unknown (though there are seven notable exceptions in {{p|Latios}}, {{p|Latias}}, {{p|Heatran}}, {{p|Cresselia}}, {{p|Tornadus}}, {{p|Thundurus}}, and {{p|Landorus}}), and all but {{p|Manaphy}} are unable to breed in captivity, even with {{p|Ditto}} (and Manaphy only produces the unevolvable {{p|Phione}} when it breeds with Ditto.)

No legendary Pokémon is known to [[evolution|evolve]], though many are part of a [[legendary trio]] or [[legendary duo]]. Much like [[starter Pokémon]] appear at the beginning of each [[regional Pokédex]] and their generation's portion of the [[National Pokédex]], legendary Pokémon typically appear at the very end of them. There is one exception to this rule: {{p|Victini}}. Victini's [[Unova Pokédex]] number is #000, coming before the region's [[starter Pokémon]] in the Pokédex.

===In the anime===
Legendary Pokémon typically make their anime debut in a {{pkmn|movie}}, rather than first appearing in a normal episode. Many are held in very high regard in all forms of canon, though their status varies between the games and anime. For example, their {{wp|deity|godlike}} status is expressed in both the anime and the games, though in the anime they are shown to be able to breed, whereas in the games they cannot, and in the anime most of them supposedly cannot be caught in Poké Balls, while in the games, they can. In the anime they are often only seen by special {{pkmn|Trainer}}s, usually the anime's main protagonist, [[Ash Ketchum]], and other people who have a special connection to them. [[Villainous teams]] and others with bad intentions often seek them out, due both to their rarity and their superior power.

It has been shown that the capture of certain legendary Pokémon may lead to great catastrophe, due to their often pivotal role in nature. Despite this, however, trainers using Legendary Pokémon via [[Poké Ball]]s or even as a non-owned Pokémon is not unheard of. An example of the latter use is the fact that {{FB|Factory Head|Noland}} befriended and fought official {{pkmn|battle}}s with an {{TP|Noland|Articuno}}. Likewise, {{FB|Pyramid King|Brandon}} in the anime owned the three {{TP|Brandon|Regis}} in Poké Balls and trained them and there were no chaotic events that followed. {{si|Tobias}} is another Trainer who has been shown to have legendary Pokémon in Poké Balls, seeing to own a {{p|Darkrai}} and a {{p|Latios}}. Another Trainer in the [[Lily of the Valley Conference]] owned a {{p|Heatran}}. Finally, a [[Nurse Joy]] who visited the Pewter Gym under assignment of the [[Pokémon Inspection Agency|PIA]] kept a {{p|Latias}} in a Poké Ball.

There are some cases where legendary Pokémon are implied to breed in the wild, as seen with {{p|Lugia}}, though this is not the case in the games. Some are not immortal nor invincible, as seen by the death of {{OBP|Celebi|M04}}. The injury of {{p|Arceus}} is also a debatable factor in the immortality of legendaries. Only some, in fact, are often considered unique, some of these being {{an|Mewtwo}} (due to the [[The Birth of Mewtwo|circumstances of its creation]]), {{p|Arceus}}, {{p|Dialga}}, {{p|Palkia}}, {{p|Reshiram}}, and {{p|Zekrom}}, due to their roles in the creation of the Pokémon world and their respective regions. {{p|Genesect}} is also presumed to be a unique species, due to the modifications made to it by [[Team Plasma]].

==List of legendary Pokémon==
Of the {{numpkmn}} Pokémon species, 47 are considered to be legendary (7,24%), while several more have certain characteristics of legendary Pokémon. Each [[generation]] has introduced at least one legendary trio and one legendary duo, with the notable exception of [[Generation V]] which introduced the first legendary quartet and no legendary duo.

===Generation I===
The legendary Pokémon introduced in [[Generation I]] can be broken into two groups: the [[legendary birds]] and the Mew duo.

====Legendary birds====
{{main|Legendary birds}}
[[File:Legendary birds.png|thumb|right|270px|{{p|Zapdos}}, {{p|Articuno}}, and {{p|Moltres}}; art from a [[Articuno, Moltres, and Zapdos (Warner Bros. promo)|TCG card]] by [[Mitsuhiro Arita]]]]
The three legendary birds, also known as the Winged Mirages, are the resident [[legendary trio]] of the [[Kanto]] region. Each of them is based on a mythical bird, and each is associated with a [[season]] (though none of the three is associated with autumn).

In the games, all three are available in the Kanto region in all of its appearances except for [[Generation II]]. {{p|Articuno}} takes up residence in the [[Seafoam Islands]] in the south, {{p|Zapdos}} in the [[Power Plant]] (next to it in Generation IV) in the east, and {{p|Moltres}} in a variety of places, {{ka|Victory Road}}, [[Mt. Ember]], or [[Mt. Silver]], depending on the generation. In Generation IV, they are also found {{pkmn2|roaming}} [[Sinnoh]], but only in {{game|Platinum}}.

In the anime, the legendary birds appear together in ''[[M02|The Power of One]]'', where they rule over the islands surrounding [[Shamouti Island]]. If they are disturbed and begin to fight, only {{OBP|Lugia|M02}} can stop them, though it will fail without additional help from the Chosen One. Separately, Articuno appears in ''[[EP189|Freeze Frame]]'', ''[[AG135|Numero Uno Articuno]]'', and ''[[AG136|The Symbol Life]]'', while Zapdos appears in ''[[EP242|As Clear As Crystal]]'', ''[[M09|Pokémon Ranger and the Temple of the Sea]]'', and ''[[DP094|Doc Brock!]]'', and Moltres appears in ''[[EP074|All Fired Up!]]'' and ''[[SS018|The Search for the Legend]]''.

====Mew duo====
[[Image:Mewtwo and Mew.png|thumb|250px|left|{{p|Mewtwo}} and {{p|Mew}} in [[M01|the first movie]]]]
The Mew duo, so named because of their similar genetic structure and Mewtwo's origin as an enhanced clone of Mew, are a pair of catlike Pokémon which are believed by many to be among the most rare and powerful Pokémon that exist.

In the games, {{p|Mew}} is only mentioned in years-old journals found in the {{ka|Pokémon Mansion}} on [[Cinnabar Island]]. It was the first {{pkmn2|event}}-exclusive Pokémon, being otherwise available only by [[Mew glitch|glitching the game]] or [[cheating]]. One is available in the wild on [[Faraway Island]], an event area in {{game|Emerald}}, the only time it is legitimately able to be caught from the wild.

Mew appears in the anime in both [[M01|the first movie]] and [[M08|the eighth movie]]. In the first, it appears to fight against Mewtwo, while in the second, its status as the Pokémon from which life began is explored.

In the games, {{p|Mewtwo}} is revealed to have been cloned from Mew in the journals in the Pokémon Mansion. Unlike most Pokémon, however, Mew gave live birth to Mewtwo, rather than laying an {{pkmn|Egg}} and Mewtwo hatching from it. Mewtwo was too powerful, however, and it escapes from the Pokémon Mansion, destroying it in the process. Mewtwo then makes its home in [[Cerulean Cave]], where all kinds of powerful Pokémon live.

In the anime, {{an|Mewtwo}} was featured prominently, appearing in several episodes of the [[original series]], [[M01|the first movie]], and [[Mewtwo Returns|the first special episode]]. Mewtwo's origin is slightly different as well, with [[Team Rocket]] boss {{an|Giovanni}} funding a group of scientists to create an enhanced clone of {{p|Mew}} for his own use. Though Mewtwo is initially a very angry Pokémon, viewing all humans as evil due to the acts of the scientists and Giovanni, eventually, when [[Ash Ketchum]] sacrifices himself to stop the fighting between Mew and Mewtwo, Mewtwo's heart softens, and he learns that some humans do care about their, and all, Pokémon. Meeting up with Ash again, Mewtwo is further shown that, although it is a genetically-enhanced clone of Mew, it and the other clones are no different than normal Pokémon, and because it erased Ash and his friends' memory at the end of their first meeting, realizes that Ash himself truly does care for others, even if he doesn't know them.

Mewtwo is known in the anime to travel around the world, traversing rooftops at night, and living its life free. It occasionally appears in anime openings, sometimes with Mew, and sometimes alone.

===Generation II===
More legendary Pokémon were introduced in [[Generation II]], adding six more for a running total of 11. The legendary Pokémon introduced in this generation down can be separated into three groups.

====Legendary beasts====
{{main|Legendary beasts}}
[[File:Entei Raikou Suicune.png|thumb|right|250px|[[Eusine]] and {{ga|Lyra}} discover {{p|Raikou}}, {{p|Entei}}, and {{p|Suicune}} in the basement of the [[Burned Tower]]]]
Like the legendary birds of the previous generation, a second trio of similar types was introduced in the neighboring [[Johto]] region. These legendary beasts, so named because their features are based on many different creatures, both real and mythical, as well as mythological deities, were trapped in the [[Burned Tower|Brass Tower]] when it was struck by lightning and burned to the ground, resulting in their death. The trio was revived by the power of {{p|Ho-Oh}} and now [[roaming Pokémon|roam across the land]] because of their great power. It is unknown whether the three were already a Suicune, Raikou, and Entei when they died, or whether they were simply three non-legendary Pokémon, and Ho-oh reincarnated them as the first legendary beasts. In the case of the latter, it is possible that these three would be the original three beasts, who created multiple decendants. For example, a new Entei is said to be born whenever a new volcano is formed.

In the games, more than one of each exists, with only the trio that roams Johto after being discovered in Brass Tower's basement during [[Generation II]] and [[Generation IV]] being that of the legend. Each was captured and changed into a [[Shadow Pokémon]] by [[Cipher]] in {{g|Colosseum}}, while one of the three, depending on the player's [[starter Pokémon]] choice, roams Kanto in {{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}}, {{p|Entei}} for {{p|Bulbasaur}}, {{p|Raikou}} for {{p|Squirtle}}, and {{p|Suicune}} for {{p|Charmander}}.

In the anime, the legendary beasts did not appear together until [[M13|the thirteenth movie]], despite being introduced in Generation II. It appears that an initial plan for the three Johto-era {{pkmn|movie}}s was to have each feature one of the legendary beasts in a central role, with {{OBP|Entei|M03}} taking a central role in ''[[M03|Spell of the Unown]]'' and {{OBP|Suicune|M04}} taking the stage in ''[[M04|Celebi: Voice of the Forest]]''. This did not pan out, however, possibly due to the canning of Johto's {{p|Celebi}} plotline, and Raikou was relegated to a role in ''[[The Legend of Thunder]]'', featuring anime characters based on {{ga|Ethan}} and {{ga|Kris}}, rather than [[M05|the fifth movie]], which focused on legendary Pokémon from the then-upcoming [[Generation III]] instead.

Each of the beasts made an episodic appearance, as well, with Entei appearing in ''[[EP259|Entei at Your Own Risk]]'', Raikou briefly appearing in ''[[EP180|Houndoom's Special Delivery]]'', and Suicune having the most prominence (as in the games) through its appearance in ''[[EP117|Don't Touch That 'Dile]]'', ''[[EP227|For Ho-Oh the Bells Toll]]'', and ''[[DP028|Drifloon On the Wind!]]''.

====Tower duo====
[[Image:Lugia_and_ho-oh.jpg|200px|thumb|left|{{p|Lugia}} and {{p|Ho-Oh}}]]
The first [[version mascot]]s that were also legendary Pokémon, {{p|Lugia}} and {{p|Ho-Oh}} are a pair of legendary birds which formerly resided in [[Ecruteak City]] atop tall towers, leading to their designation. However, when the [[Burned Tower|Brass Tower]], the home of Lugia, was struck by lightning, burned to the ground, and they both flew away, Lugia resolved to make its new home in the [[Whirl Islands]] and Ho-Oh to search the world for a pure-hearted Trainer. The two are thought to be as closely related as they are polar opposites, being based on the eastern legends of the {{wp|Fènghuáng}} and {{wp|Ryūjin}}.

In the games, Lugia does not play a central role in the Generation II storyline, instead being mentioned only as having lived in Ecruteak City before the Brass Tower burned. It is found in the Whirl Islands in the Generation II games and their {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s|remakes}} if the player holds a {{DL|List of key items in Generation IV|Silver Wing}}. It reaches prominence in the storyline of {{g|XD: Gale of Darkness}}, where [[XD001|one]] is corrupted by [[Cipher]] to become the ultimate [[Shadow Pokémon]], unable to be purified. It is also available on [[Navel Rock]] in Generation III, as an event-exclusive legendary Pokémon.

In the anime, Lugia is featured in a central role in ''[[M02|The Power of One]]'', where it is revealed that {{Ash}} is the Chosen One who must help it to quell the fighting of the [[legendary birds]]. Another pair of them appeared when Ash and his friends traveled to the Whirl Islands in Johto. This implied that legendary Pokémon could breed, though it is unknown whether this is should be considered a "mistake" by the anime cannon, as legendary Pokémon cannot breed in the games.

Ho-Oh has a much greater focus during Generation II, being named as the creator of the legendary beasts. It can be found, if the player has a {{DL|List of key items in Generation IV|Rainbow Wing}}, atop [[Bell Tower]] in the Generation II games and their remakes. It makes an appearance in {{g|Colosseum}}, as well, as a reward for purifying all Shadow Pokémon, and on [[Navel Rock]] like Lugia.

In the anime, {{an|Ho-Oh}} is notably the first legendary Pokémon that appeared (outside of the [[Aim to Be a Pokémon Master|opening animation]], at least), flying over a rainbow at the start of [[Ash Ketchum]]'s journey at the end of ''[[EP001|Pokémon - I Choose You!]]''. Ash has subsequently seen it several times over the course of his journey, but has never come face-to-face with it.

====Celebi====
[[Image:Celebi_Shrine.png|thumb|right|100px|{{p|Celebi}} on its shrine in [[Ilex Forest]]]]
Although it has no relation to Mew that has been revealed, {{p|Celebi}} was dubbed the "New Mew" when it was introduced in Generation II because of their similar size and stats, as well as the status of being the last in the [[National Pokédex]] as of its generation and being unobtainable through normal gameplay. Unlike Mew, however, it was not believed to be the ancestor of all Pokémon, but merely the guardian of forests, traveling through time to make sure of their purity.

In the games, Celebi is available only by event, either directly (via [[Trade|trading]] or [[Mystery Gift]]), or, in {{game|Crystal}}, through an event involving the [[GS Ball]]. This made it the first event Pokémon that was able to be captured from the wild in the games after using an event-only item, something which would continue forward even to the current generation. Celebi also makes an appearance in {{g|Colosseum}} and {{g|XD: Gale of Darkness}}, but it is unobtainable.

In the anime, Celebi takes a central role in ''[[M04|Celebi: Voice of the Forest]]'' and ''[[AG155|The Green Guardian]]''. In the movie, [[Celebi (M04)|one]] accidentally brings [[Sam]] to the future when attempting to escape from a poacher, and is later captured in a [[Iron-Masked Marauder|Team Rocket member]]'s [[Dark Ball]]s to be used to destroy the forest and rule the world. In the episode, another is attempting to heal after putting out a forest fire, and needs the help of Pokémon Ranger [[Solana]], as well as the anime's protagonists, to do so. A {{OBP|Celebi|M13}} also played an important role in ''[[M13|Zoroark: Master of Illusions]]'', where [[Grings Kodai]] wanted to use the "ripple of time" created by Celebi's time travels to allow himself to get visions of the future.

===Generation III===
Many more legendary Pokémon were added to the roster in [[Generation III]], with the ten new legendary Pokémon bringing the total to 21. At this point in the series, legendary Pokémon began to have a greater role in the storyline of the games, with the plot of the [[villainous teams]] introduced in this generation and the next involving the reawakening of ancient legendary Pokémon for the team's own use.

====Legendary golems====
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[[Image:Regis.png|thumb|left|{{p|Regice}}, {{p|Registeel}}, and {{p|Regirock}}]]
This third trio of legendary Pokémon, based on the {{wp|golem}}s of Hebrew legend, featured minimally in Hoenn-region legend. They are based on the three ancient ages of humanity, the ice age, the stone age, and the iron age. Truly, this legendary trio, as well as its [[trio master|master]], {{p|Regigigas}}, feature the most complicated method of in-game availability, with puzzles made of [[braille]] in the Hoenn region being the keys to unlocking their mystery.

As complex as the method in which they are obtained is the legend of the golems, which is told in {{game2|Ruby|Sapphire|Emerald}} and finally completed in {{game2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}. Long ago, an ancient Pokémon was said to have moved the continents into their present positions by pulling them with ropes. After it was finished, it created in its image three Pokémon: {{p|Regirock}}, from clay, {{p|Regice}}, from ice, and {{p|Registeel}}, from magma. Ancient people, seeing that the Pokémon was so powerful, sealed it away in [[Snowpoint Temple]], while those it had created were separated from it and taken to the Hoenn region, sealed in three chambers, and left in the hopes that one day, someone would unlock the chambers and be able to tame the three so as to tame Regigigas. They are available in the [[Desert Ruins]], [[Island Cave]], and [[Ancient Tomb]] in Hoenn, as well as the [[Rock Peak Ruins]], [[Iceberg Ruins]], and [[Iron Ruins]] in [[Sinnoh]] with an event {{p|Regigigas}}.

In the anime, the [[Legendary golems (M08)|three legendary golems]] starred together guarding the [[Tree of Beginning]] in ''[[M08|Lucario and the Mystery of Mew]]'', as well as members of {{FB|Pyramid King|Brandon}}'s team in the Battle Frontier saga.

====Eon duo====
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[[File:Latias Latios.png|thumb|220px|right|{{p|Latias}} and {{p|Latios}}]]
Another of Hoenn's minor legendary Pokémon, {{p|Latias}} and {{p|Latios}} do not feature a distinct legend behind them. Nonetheless, they are incredibly rare, with only one of the two available normally to players, and the other available through an event.

Latios and Latias take on counterpart availability in {{game2|Ruby|Sapphire|Emerald}} as well as {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}, with Latios being a [[roaming Pokémon]] in Ruby and SoulSilver, and Latias doing the same in Sapphire and HeartGold. In Emerald, after the player has defeated the Elite Four, their mother will ask if the Pokémon mentioned on TV was red or blue, and depending on that, one of the two will be roaming Hoenn. The other member of the duo will be found on [[Southern Island]], accessible by [[Eon Ticket]], in Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald, and in [[Pewter City]], through the [[Enigma Stone]] event, in HeartGold and SoulSilver.

In the anime, Latios and Latias were the stars of ''[[M05|Pokémon Heroes]]'', where the two guarded the legendary city of [[Alto Mare]]. With a strong connection to the [[Soul Dew]], the two were responsible for protecting it from {{mov|Annie}} and [[Oakley]], who wished to steal it. In the main series, {{si|Tobias}} used a Latios against Ash, as his second Pokémon in the first semi-final battle of the [[Lily of the Valley Conference]].

====Weather trio====
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[[Image:Weather trio.png|250px|thumb|right|A depiction of the cataclysmic battle between {{p|Groudon}}, {{p|Kyogre}}, and {{p|Rayquaza}}]]
The trio of super-ancient Pokémon, known for their [[weather conditions|weather-related]] [[Ability|Abilities]] as the weather trio, serve as the [[version mascot]]s of {{game2|Ruby|Sapphire|Emerald}}, being the first legendary trio to be version mascots, and represent the three major components of the Earth: the hydrosphere, the lithosphere, and the atmosphere. Said to have shaped the land and sea, {{p|Groudon}} and {{p|Kyogre}} are among the most powerful legendary Pokémon, while {{p|Rayquaza}} prevents the two from quarreling.

During the course of {{game|Ruby and Sapphire|s}}, [[Team Magma]] or [[Team Aqua]], depending on version, seek out Groudon or Kyogre, with the intention of awakening them to make more homes for Pokémon of the land or sea. Eventually, the plan goes wrong, and the player is forced to defeat or capture the legendary Pokémon to stop a global disaster. In {{game|Emerald}}, instead, both teams are on the loose, intending to awaken their respective legendary Pokémon, and only with interference by the player and {{p|Rayquaza}} does the fight end up resolved.

In the anime, Groudon and Kyogre appeared in the two-part episode consisting of ''[[AG097|Gaining Groudon]]'' and ''[[AG098|The Scuffle of Legends]]''. In these episodes, Team Magma and Team Aqua finally succeed in awakening the two, as in the games, though their conflict is resolved very quickly, much to the annoyance of viewers. Rayquaza appeared in ''[[M07|Destiny Deoxys]]'', where it fought against the pair of {{OBP|Deoxys|M07}}.

====Jirachi====
[[File:385Jirachi AG anime.png|thumb|left|{{p|Jirachi}} in the anime]]
One of the two event legendary Pokémon of Generation III, {{p|Jirachi}} is known to grant wishes written on the tags on its head each time it awakens: once every millennium.

In the games, Jirachi has never had a concrete location tied to it, and it cannot be captured from the wild legitimately. However, several direct transfers have been present in the history of the franchise, most notably in the form of a [[Pokémon Colosseum Bonus Disc|bonus disc]] released as a preview of {{g|Colosseum}} which fixes the [[Berry glitch]] present in {{game|Ruby and Sapphire|s}}.

Jirachi starred in ''[[M06|Jirachi: Wish Maker]]'', where it befriended [[Max]] as the group attempted to keep it away from [[Butler]], a former [[Team Magma]] operative.

====Deoxys====
[[File:386Deoxys formes.png|thumb|right|{{p|Deoxys}} in its four Formes: Attack, Normal, Defense, Speed]]
A virus from space which mutated when shot by a laser, {{p|Deoxys}} was the first legendary Pokémon known to [[Form differences|change form]], taking different forms on in each of the [[Generation III]] games - Normal Forme in {{game|Ruby and Sapphire|s}}, Attack Forme in {{game3|FireRed and LeafGreen|Pokémon FireRed|s}}, Defense Forme in {{game3|FireRed and LeafGreen|Pokémon LeafGreen|s}}, and Speed Forme in {{game|Emerald}}, and being able to change them at will starting from [[Generation IV]] games with special meteorites found in [[Veilstone City]], {{rt|3|Kanto}} and [[Nacrene City]].

In the games, Deoxys is only available on [[Birth Island]] when the {{DL|Event item|AuroraTicket}} is downloaded to FireRed, LeafGreen, or Emerald, though as with all event legendary Pokémon, it has also been available through direct download via [[Mystery Gift]].

Deoxys featured heavily in the seventh Pokémon movie, ''[[M07|Destiny Deoxys]]'', where its Attack and Defense Formes were first revealed. One of the two {{OBP|Deoxys|M07}} featured befriends a boy named [[Tory Lund]], who fears Pokémon otherwise and does not realize what Deoxys is, while the other seeks out the first, concerned for its safety. Another Deoxys featured in ''[[AG171|Pokémon Ranger - Deoxys Crisis!]]'', where Deoxys's Speed Forme debuted in the anime.

===Generation IV===
Thirteen more legendary Pokémon were added in [[Generation IV]], the most of any generation so far, bringing the total to a whopping 34. Many of the legendary Pokémon of this generation have little connection to the plot of the games, instead being minor, post-League sidequests for the player to go on. Six of the 13 introduced, even, are not in Sinnoh's regional Pokédex, appearing only in the National Dex, a first for any Pokémon.

Prior to Generation IV, 680 had been the limit on a legendary Pokémon's [[Base stats|base stat]] total: this limit was set by {{p|Mewtwo}} in [[Generation I]] and was only matched - never surpassed - in Generation II and Generation III. As of Generation IV, however, the most powerful of all Pokémon in terms of base stats is no longer Mewtwo or any of its equals, but {{p|Arceus}}, the supposed creator of the Pokémon universe.

====Lake guardians====
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[[File:Mesprit Azelf Uxie anime.png|thumb|right|{{p|Azelf}}, {{p|Mesprit}}, and {{p|Uxie}} in the anime]]
The lake guardians, [[Sinnoh]]'s native legendary trio, represent the spirit of all consciousness, with {{p|Uxie}} embodying knowledge, {{p|Mesprit}} embodying emotion, and {{p|Azelf}} embodying willpower. According to legend, having been created by {{p|Arceus|the Original One}}, the trio have the power to tame the powerful dragons it also created.

In the games, Uxie, Mesprit, and Azelf are found in the caverns of [[Lake Acuity]], [[Lake Verity]], and [[Lake Valor]], though Mesprit will roam Sinnoh after the player has encountered it, rather than battle immediately as the other two will. The trio are captured by [[Team Galactic]]'s {{tc|Commander}}s, [[Jupiter]], [[Mars]], and [[Saturn]], and subjected to the experiments of [[Charon]] to draw out the [[Red Chain]] from the gems in their bodies. Cyrus summons {{p|Dialga}} and {{p|Palkia}}, and alone, the lake guardians' power is not enough to stop them. {{p|Giratina}} interferes and draws Cyrus into the Distortion World, where the lake guardians assist the player in navigation toward Giratina's lair.

In the anime, the lake guardians appeared, first in spirit form, in ''[[DP001|Following a Maiden's Voyage]]'', ''[[DP078|Pruning a Passel of Pals]]'', and ''[[DP133|Uncrushing Defeat!]]'', to {{an|Dawn}}, {{Ash}}, and {{an|Brock}}. They were captured by [[J]], who had been hired by [[Team Galactic]], in ''[[DP151|The Needs of the Three!]]'', and were freed by Ash, Dawn, and Brock to stop the power of Dialga and Palkia in ''[[DP152|The Battle Finale of Legend!]]''.

====Creation trio====
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[[File:Dialga-Palkia-Giratina.jpg|180px|thumb|right|Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina artwork from {{game|Platinum}}]]
The legendary creators of the Pokémon universe, the creation trio consisting of {{p|Dialga}} of time, {{p|Palkia}} of space, and {{p|Giratina}} of antimatter, are, like the weather trio before them, the mascots of [[Sinnoh]]'s trio of games, {{game2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}.

In the games, Dialga and Palkia are sought by [[Cyrus]] to destroy and then remake the universe without spirit, a thing he hates about humanity. At [[Spear Pillar]], one of the two will be able to be captured in Diamond and Pearl, depending on the game, while Giratina may be obtained after the Pokémon League has been conquered. In Platinum, however, Giratina interferes with Cyrus's planned destruction of the universe, and may be captured in its home, the [[Distortion World]], while Dialga and Palkia cannot be found until the Elite Four have been defeated.

In the anime, {{mov|Dialga}} and {{mov|Palkia}} appeared together, fighting, in ''[[M10|The Rise of Darkrai]]'', while Dialga and {{mov|Giratina}} appeared in ''[[M11|Giratina and the Sky Warrior]]''. The three appeared together, finally, in ''[[M12|Arceus and the Jewel of Life]]''. Dialga and Palkia were also summoned at Spear Pillar and chained by Cyrus in ''[[DP152|The Battle Finale of Legend!]]'', but were freed when he escaped into another universe and the Red Chain was shattered by Ash, Dawn, Brock, and their Pokémon.

====Lunar duo====
[[File:Darkrai-Newmoon Island.png|thumb|left|{{p|Darkrai}} on [[Newmoon Island]]]]
Two sidequest legendary Pokémon and event legendary Pokémon, {{p|Cresselia}} and {{p|Darkrai}} represent two phases of the moon with opposite connotations: Darkrai represents the {{wp|new moon}}, the cause of the darkest nights and bringer of nightmares, while Cresselia represents the {{wp|full moon}}, a sign of hope and good dreams.

In the games, Cresselia can be found on [[Fullmoon Island]] as part of a post-League quest to rid {{tc|Sailor}} Eldrich's son of a nightmare. It will flee immediately, roaming Sinnoh and leaving behind a [[Lunar Wing]], which will heal the boy. Darkrai is found on [[Newmoon Island]], accessible only with a [[Member Card]], and can only be obtained through an event.

The lunar duo made their debuts separately, with a {{OBP|Darkrai|M10}} appearing in ''[[M10|The Rise of Darkrai]]'', attempting to stop Dialga and Palkia's fight from destroying its home, [[Alamos Town]], and protecting [[Alice]], its friend. Cresselia first appeared in ''[[DP104|Sleepless in Pre-Battle!]]'', where it fought briefly against a Darkrai.

====Sea guardians====
[[File:Manaphyphione.png|thumb|right|{{p|Manaphy}} and {{p|Phione}}]]
The sea guardian Pokémon are a legendary duo that, somewhat like Mewtwo and Mew, is comprised of a parent and child. {{p|Manaphy}}, a legendary Pokémon that makes its home in warmer seas south of the known regions, bears {{p|Phione}} when bred in captivity in the known regions.

In the games, Manaphy can only be found through an event: either it may be transferred in its Egg from one of the {{ga|Pokémon Ranger|Ranger}} games after activating an event in those games, or can be directly received via various Mystery Gift events. Like Jirachi, it cannot be legitimately found in the wild. Phione, of course, must be bred from a Manaphy and a {{p|Ditto}}, making it the only legendary Pokémon available only through this method.

In the anime, Manaphy debuted in ''[[M09|Pokémon Ranger and the Temple of the Sea]]'', where, like in the games, it first appeared as an Egg, and befriended {{an|May}}, who it regarded as its mother. It was the only Pokémon able to find the mysterious Temple of the Sea, [[Samiya]], and was regarded as the Prince of the Sea. For this, it was sought by [[the Phantom]], a pirate who wished to take the jewels of the Sea Crown deep in Samiya. Phione debuted under different circumstances, being found in [[Chocovine Town]] in ''[[DP113|Hold the Phione!]]'', where they were revered as bringers of good luck.

Phione's status as a legendary Pokémon is often disputed, due to the fact that it can breed and multiple individuals can be obtained. [[Pokémon.com]]'s mailbag was once asked if Phione was legendary, to which the answer was initially no, but was quickly changed to yes; the whole mailbag section has since been taken down with the restructure of Pokémon.com. In the official game guide to {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}, which is made by [[The Pokémon Company International]], it is stated that Phione is not legendary. In [[Pokémon Ranger: Guardian Signs]], it is not referred to by the game as "rare" or "legendary", which is the case for all other legendary Pokémon in the game. In {{game|Black and White|s}}, it is banned from the [[Battle Subway]], a rule which typically applies only to legendary Pokémon.

====Heatran====
[[File:Heatran anime.png|thumb|right|{{p|Heatran}} in the anime]]
{{p|Heatran}} is the embodiment of the planet's boiling {{wp|core}}, appearing in [[Stark Mountain]] in [[Sinnoh]], where it was said to have been born at the same time as Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina created Sinnoh at [[Spear Pillar]] and created the [[Battle Zone]]. Heatran is the first, and currently only, legendary Pokémon with a variable gender.

Heatran first appeared in the anime in ''[[M12|Arceus and the Jewel of Life]]'', under the control of [[Marcus]], and later appeared in ''[[DP169|Pokémon Ranger: Heatran Rescue!]]'' as part of a Pokémon Ranger rescue mission.

====Regigigas====
[[File:Regigigas anime.png|thumb|left|{{p|Regigigas}} in the anime]]
{{p|Regigigas}} is the master of the [[legendary golems]], having created them in ancient times and was said to have moved the continents in place, pulling them by rope.

In the games, Regigigas is found at [[Snowpoint Temple]], though it will not awaken unless all three of the legendary golems are in the player's party.

Regigigas appeared in the anime in ''[[M11|Giratina and the Sky Warrior]]'', where it attempted to stop a glacier from destroying [[Ten'i Village]]. Another appeared in ''[[DP129|Pillars of Friendship!]]'', where it was hunted by [[J]] and defended by {{FB|Pyramid King|Brandon}}.

====Shaymin====
[[File:Seabreak path.png|thumb|right|{{p|Shaymin}} running down [[Seabreak Path]]]]
A legendary Pokémon that has the Ability to purify areas instantly and bring plant life in abundance, {{p|Shaymin}} is referred to as the Mew of Generation IV. Unlike previous event legendary Pokémon with its straight-100 base stats, however, Shaymin has the Ability to change forms, between Land Forme and Sky Forme.

In the games, like Darkrai, Shaymin is catchable in the wild after an event item has been obtained: this time [[Oak's Letter]], which requests the player's help on {{rt|224|Sinnoh}}. After giving thanks to someone or something, Shaymin will appear, and will be available to be caught at the end of the [[Seabreak Path]] that appears, in the [[Flower Paradise]].

Shaymin has a central role in ''[[M11|Giratina and the Sky Warrior]]'', when it, as well as its Sky Forme, were officially revealed. It also has a minor role in ''[[DP168|Keeping In Top Forme!]]'' involving [[Marley]].

====Arceus====
[[File:Arceus ruins art.png|thumb|left|{{p|Arceus}} creates a Pokémon Egg for {{ga|Ethan}} and {{ga|Lyra}}]]
The final Pokémon of Generation IV and the most powerful known so far, {{p|Arceus}} is, according to legend, the creator of the Pokémon universe. Born of an Egg in the chaos at the beginning, Arceus's powers were awakened immediately, and from itself it made time and space, matter and antimatter, and set {{p|Dialga}}, {{p|Palkia}}, and {{p|Giratina}} to guard them. It created spirit as well, setting {{p|Uxie}} in charge of knowledge, {{p|Mesprit}} in charge of emotion, and {{p|Azelf}} in charge of willpower, before falling into an eternal slumber.

Arceus can be awoken from its sleep using an [[Azure Flute]] at [[Spear Pillar]], which will open a staircase to its home, the [[Hall of Origin]]. There it can be captured, though no legitimate way of obtaining the Azure Flute has yet been released.

In the anime, {{OBP|Arceus|M12}} starred in ''[[M12|Arceus and the Jewel of Life]]'', where it set out to destroy [[Michina Town]] and its people for their betrayal in ancient times. After changing history with the help of Dialga, Ash and his friends revealed to Arceus the true nature of human beings, and it left Michina Town in peace.

===Generation V===
Thirteen additional legendary Pokémon were added in [[Generation V]], tying with Generation IV to be the largest addition to the ranks, totaling 47 legendary Pokémon. {{p|Reshiram}} and {{p|Zekrom}} played a large role in the storyline of Black & White, with the respective mascot Pokémon being a necessary and unavoidable capture to progress to the endgame. The rest of the Pokémon mattered little to the narrative progression and some are still unavailable legitimately, waiting instead on future events to unlock their existence.

====Victini====
[[File:Victini-Liberty Garden Island.png|thumb|160px|{{ga|Hilda}}, {{p|Victini}}, and {{ga|Hilbert}}]]
{{p|Victini}} is found at the beginning of [[List of Pokémon by Unova Pokédex number|Unova's Pokédex]], being #000. Much like {{p|Mew}}, {{p|Celebi}}, {{p|Jirachi}}, {{p|Manaphy}} and {{p|Shaymin}} before it, each of its base stats are 100. It is the first [[Generation V]] [[event Pokémon]] revealed and allowed to be obtained. Victini is considered the embodiment of victory. It is said that a Trainer with a Victini will win anything no matter what.

In Pokémon Black and White, if the player possesses the [[Liberty Ticket]], the player can take a boat to [[Liberty Garden]], where Team Plasma is attempting to obtain Victini for the energy it radiates. It is later revealed that Victini was sealed in the basement of the lighthouse by a wealthy person in order to protect it from people with bad intentions.

Victini is the star of ''[[M14|White—Victini and Zekrom and Black—Victini and Reshiram]]''.

====Legendary musketeers====
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[[File:Legendary Musketeers.png|thumb|left|200px|The legendary musketeers]]
{{p|Cobalion}}, {{p|Terrakion}}, {{p|Virizion}} are a trio of Pokémon based on the titular characters of the 1844 French novel ''{{wp|The Three Musketeers}}'', and partially on hooved mammals such as deer, antelopes, oxen, goats, and horses. According to legend, they protect Pokémon from having their habitats destroyed by humans and have been known to have attacked human castles during the Middle Ages. Like the Three Musketeers, they are considered a trio but have a fourth, younger member in the form of {{p|Keldeo}} who the other three rescued and raised after its home was destroyed by fire. All four of them can use their horns like swords, and learn their [[signature move]], {{m|Sacred Sword}}, at level 42 (43 for {{p|Keldeo}}, most likely to refer to it becoming part of the group later).

====Kami trio====
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{{p|Tornadus}}, {{p|Thundurus}}, and {{p|Landorus}} are a trio of Pokémon based on Japanese deities: {{wp|Fūjin}}, god of wind, {{wp|Raijin}}, god of thunder and lightning, and {{wp|Inari Ōkami|Inari}}, a fertility god. Together the three represent the heavens and the nourishing effect the sky has upon the earth.

====Tao trio====
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[[File:Reshiram Zekrom anime.png|thumb|right|280px|{{p|Reshiram}} and {{p|Zekrom}}]]
{{p|Zekrom}} and {{p|Reshiram}} represent balance through the aspects of {{wp|Tao|Yin and Yang}}, respectively. Originally, they were a single dragon that helped found the Unova region's nation, but fighting between the two brothers who founded the nation split them into two halves. Despite this, the two Pokémon do not willingly fight each other.

Reshiram and Zekrom are the stars of ''[[M14|Pokémon The Movie: White—Victini and Zekrom and Pokémon The Movie: Black—Victini and Reshiram ]]'' along with Victini.

{{p|Kyurem}} is related to Zekrom and Reshiram. Kyurem represents {{wp|Wuji (philosophy)|wuji}}, which is the absence of Yin and Yang.

Kyurem is the star of ''[[M15|Pokémon The Movie: Kyurem VS the Sacred Swordsman: Keldeo]]'' along with Keldeo.

====Meloetta====
[[File:648Meloetta P BW anime.png|thumb|left|100px]]
{{p|Meloetta}} represents music and dance. Legend says that it once sang and danced joyfully. However, when sorrow darkened the world, it lost the melody and its red shoes. {{m|Relic Song}} changes its form.

Meloetta will make its anime debut in the [[Pikachu short]] [[PK23]], which will air alongside M15.

====Genesect====
{{p|Genesect}} is an experimental creature created by Team Plasma, under [[N]], attempting to create the strongest Pokémon in existence by altering an ancient insect Pokémon with cybernetic upgrades. It uses special [[Drives]] to make variations to its signature move, {{m|Techno Blast}}.

==Trivia==
* Though {{p|Unown}} is not considered to be a legendary Pokémon, in ''[[M03|Spell of the Unown]]'', {{p|Unown}} are shown in [[Molly Hale]]'s ''Book of Legendary Pokémon'', their power appears to match that of legendary Pokémon and they are explicitly referred to as legendary Pokémon.
* Generation I is the only generation (excluding Generation V) where all of its legendaries have appeared in a movie. Mewtwo appeared in ''[[M01|Mewtwo Strikes Back]]''. Mew appeared in both ''Mewtwo Strikes Back'' and in ''[[M08|Lucario and the Mystery of Mew]]'', while the birds appeared in ''[[M02|The Power of One]]''.
** Ho-Oh is the only Generation II legendary who hasn't appeared in a movie, only appearing in anime appearances, opening sequences, and in a cameo in ''Lucario and the Mystery of Mew'', only to be Mew in disguise.
** Groudon is the only Generation III legendary who hasn't appeared in a movie, only appearing in the opening sequences of ''[[M10|The Rise of Darkrai]]'', ''[[M12|Arceus and the Jewel of Life]]'' and ''[[M13|Zoroark: Master of Illusions]]''. There was a fake Groudon in ''Jirachi: Wish Maker''. However, the real Groudon has appeared with its counterpart, Kyogre, in ''[[AG097|Gaining Groudon]]'' and ''[[AG098|The Scuffle of Legends]]''.
** Generation IV is the generation with the greatest amount of legendaries that haven't appeared in a movie: the [[lake guardians]] and {{p|Cresselia}}. This group is notable for not even appearing via cameos in the movies, except for Cresselia, who appeared in the opening of ''[[M10|Giratina and the Sky Warrior]]''. All four have their own debut episodes in the anime, however.
* In all but one of the games, there appears to only be one of each legendary Pokémon, but in the {{pkmn|anime}}, there is more than one of most legendary Pokémon. This may just mean that the creators of the game intended the {{player}} to only ever happen to meet one of them canonically, and in fact there are others elsewhere which the player does not encounter.
** This may be supported by the possibility of acquiring Eggs of {{p|Dialga}}, {{p|Palkia}} and {{p|Giratina}} in {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}, and {{p|Manaphy}} in the [[Generation IV]] games.
* Each generation has introduced at least one {{type2|Psychic}} legendary Pokémon and one {{type2|Flying}} legendary Pokémon, though the {{p|Shaymin|only}} {{p|Arceus|two}} Flying-type legendaries in Generation IV gain this type only in an {{DL|Form differences|Shaymin|alternate}} {{DL|Form differences|Arceus|form}}.
* According to interviews with [[Junichi Masuda]] in 2009, legendary Pokémon are the most difficult to design names for because Game Freak strives to make sure that the names of legendary Pokémon are universal across the different translations, so extra work must be put into their names to make sure that they work universally in all languages and don't conflict with anything else. This is consistent with the relatively small number of legendary Pokémon who have had their names changed outside of Japan (currently nine: the [[legendary birds]], the [[lake guardians]], and the [[Kami trio]]).
* As of [[Generation V]], aside from {{p|Arceus}}'s use of [[Plates]], there has never been a {{type|Poison}} legendary Pokémon.
* Only {{p|Deoxys}}, {{p|Giratina}}, {{p|Arceus}}, {{p|Lugia}}, and {{p|Ho-Oh}} have a battle theme that is shared with no other. {{p|Mew}} has its own battle theme; however, it is a remixed version of the normal [[Kanto]] wild battle theme.
** Each member of the [[legendary beasts]] and the [[Tao trio]] has its own remix of each trio's designated battle theme:
*** In {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}, Suicune's theme uses bells, Entei's theme uses an electric guitar, and Raikou's theme is synthesized.
*** Reshiram's theme employs a burning fire effect, Zekrom's theme employs a crackling thunder effect, and Kyurem's theme features an extra slapped bass part playing in the background.
* The legendary birds of Kanto are the most available wild legendary Pokémon, able to be caught in nine main series games each ({{2v2|Red|Green}}, {{v|Blue}}, {{v|Yellow}}, {{2v2|FireRed|LeafGreen}}, {{v2|Platinum}}, {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}). The least available wild legendary Pokémon are {{p|Celebi}} and {{p|Mew}}, which only appear in the wild in one game apiece; each encounter requires an [[event item]] to activate it. {{p|Shaymin}} and {{p|Darkrai}} may also count, as the event items for the two, though existent in the games' coding, were not released to players of {{2v2|Diamond|Pearl}}, with the Mystery Gift events only available for players of {{v2|Platinum}}.

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*[[Myths and legends involving legendary Pokémon]]
*[[Sinnoh myths]]
*[[History of the Pokémon world]]
*[[Pseudo-legendary Pokémon]]

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== "Raijin" ==

Still not thinking it's the best name for them. As continued from here: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Talk:Legendary_Pok%C3%A9mon#.22Raijin.22_Trio [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 03:12, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
:I agree. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:09, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
::As do I. Should it be moved? --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 22:47, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
::: Kami trio makes more sense... Well, Landlos doesn't make any sense except as a trio master that should had been external and its place taken by a Water/Flying Suijin, but oh well... [[User:Eriorguez|Eriorguez]] 21:11, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
::::Kami makes a lot more sense than Raijin since, as stated, only one is a thunder god.[[User:Megaplex|Megaplex]] 00:19, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::So seeing as everyone who commented here seems to agree, can it be moved? --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 11:31, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

=="Trio or Duo"==

is they to be considered a trio because as what i think they were just duo and landlos was the duo master much like how regigigas was not part of the regi quadruped. [[User:Badwolf1234|Badwolf1234]] 11:34, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
:Rayquaza is the leader of the [[Weather trio]]. Sometimes trios have their masters within the group. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 11:49, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

== Trivia: Djinn ==

They're Djinn inspired also, as evidenced by the clouds, and crossed arms. FYI Djinn is the proper term for "Genie".[[User:Tesseract|Tesseract]] 08:25, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

== PokeDex ==

The Unova PokéDex, last I checked, is completed by marking all Pokemon as Seen like the Sinnoh Dex is. How you first encounter Tornadus/Thundurus depending on the version, how do you get the other Kami and Landorus marked as Seen? [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] 14:59, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

== Trivia ==

It's noted by Dialga, Palkia and Giratina, that the three legendary dragons share their primary types with the 4th (Crasher Wake/Water), 5th (Fantina/Ghost) and 6th (Byron/Steel) gym leader of their region. The funny thing is, that the three legendary Pokémon, Tornadus, Thundurus and Landorus, share the primary type with the 4th (Elesa/Electric), 5th (Clay/Ground) and 6th (Skyla/Flying) gym leaderof their region as well, if it's noted by the cration trio, we should add it here too.
(I am talking about '''primary''' types, I do know that Tornadus is pure-flying, since it can't be a flying/flying type.) ([[User:Celebi 21|Celebi 21]] 16:29, 20 June 2011 (UTC))

== Kami Trio and Whether Trio. ==

Shouldn't we be adding that the Kami Trio has a lot in common with the Whether Trio? Such as, Tornadus and Thundurus being able to create whether changes overworld, and Landurus being their master that can stop the massive destruction they are able to create much like Rayquaza can stop Groudon and Kyogre? {{unsigned|MrAkmalDanish}}

== Suggestion ==

Once the new forms are officially revealed, the term "Kami" would no longer apply to this trio. I know this is fanterm, but however they turn out to be called, clouds are the main feature shared by all six forms. So I suggest this page to be named "Cloud trio". Thank you. [[User:Duke R|'''|) u |( e''']] [[User talk:Duke R|'''®''']] 14:08, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

:Well, Tornadus' new forme seems to have only a small cloud on its tail, Landorus has small anklets of clouds, and Thundurus seems to feature clouds most, so I doubt they could go by "Cloud Trio". It just seems to me that they're still the Kami Trio, as they still have their main appearance (somewhat). I guess they'll just keep it at Kami Trio unless it's official revealed that they have different types or something. [[User:Pringles|プリングルズ/品客薯片/ప్రింగిల్స్]] 04:55, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

::Many kami in Shinto mythology are able to shape-shift their appearances into a wide variety of forms. While Rajin and Fujin are not known for shape-shifting, Inari definitely is, but that doesn't mean that Raijin and Fujin would be out of the question as they're still kami all the same. I personally think that "kami trio" can still work even with the introduction of the new forms, especially considering the shape-shifting tendencies of many kami. [[User:Rai Marshall|Rai Marshall]] 05:35, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

::: I agree with the Duke R. How about 'Prankster Trio'? In fact, why wasn't this used in first place? It is pretty much their main attribute, more than the fact that their appearances are based on Kami. Furthermore, there is quite some speculation that the new formes are based on Aztec mythology, in which case the term "Kami" is indeed a very partial description. -[[User:Ash Pokemaster|Ash_Pokemaster]] 08:50, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

== 'us' end ==

All the names of the pokemon end in 'us'. That comes from Latin. All '''male''' objects or persons do also end in 'us'. Also, that they are based on gods, there are also (other) gods in Latin.{{unsigned|Stomata}}

== Formes ==

i HAVE SEEN according to translations Tornadus, Thundurus and Landorus original forms are Incarnation Forme. Their new forms are Sacred Beast Formes. {{Unsigned|Poke1}}
:We. Know. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 01:12, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
::Other sites may use the fan translations, but we'd prefer to use the Japanese names until English names are released. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 01:40, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
:::Just gonna throw out that [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/ar_searcher/characters/ the official website posted official art of their alternate formes] and let you guys decide what to do about that. --[[User:HeroicJay|HeroicJay]] 07:54, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

== official artwork ==

new official artwork can this be used i got it from the Japanese official website.

<gallery>
File:ThunderusB2W2.jpg
File:LandorusB2W2.jpg
File:TornadusB2W2.png
</gallery>

Talk:Forces of nature/Archive 1

2012-05-15T01:10:50Z

Poke1: /* Formes */ new section

== "Raijin" ==

Still not thinking it's the best name for them. As continued from here: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Talk:Legendary_Pok%C3%A9mon#.22Raijin.22_Trio [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 03:12, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
:I agree. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:09, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
::As do I. Should it be moved? --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 22:47, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
::: Kami trio makes more sense... Well, Landlos doesn't make any sense except as a trio master that should had been external and its place taken by a Water/Flying Suijin, but oh well... [[User:Eriorguez|Eriorguez]] 21:11, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
::::Kami makes a lot more sense than Raijin since, as stated, only one is a thunder god.[[User:Megaplex|Megaplex]] 00:19, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::So seeing as everyone who commented here seems to agree, can it be moved? --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 11:31, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

=="Trio or Duo"==

is they to be considered a trio because as what i think they were just duo and landlos was the duo master much like how regigigas was not part of the regi quadruped. [[User:Badwolf1234|Badwolf1234]] 11:34, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
:Rayquaza is the leader of the [[Weather trio]]. Sometimes trios have their masters within the group. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 11:49, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

== Trivia: Djinn ==

They're Djinn inspired also, as evidenced by the clouds, and crossed arms. FYI Djinn is the proper term for "Genie".[[User:Tesseract|Tesseract]] 08:25, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

== PokeDex ==

The Unova PokéDex, last I checked, is completed by marking all Pokemon as Seen like the Sinnoh Dex is. How you first encounter Tornadus/Thundurus depending on the version, how do you get the other Kami and Landorus marked as Seen? [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] 14:59, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

== Trivia ==

It's noted by Dialga, Palkia and Giratina, that the three legendary dragons share their primary types with the 4th (Crasher Wake/Water), 5th (Fantina/Ghost) and 6th (Byron/Steel) gym leader of their region. The funny thing is, that the three legendary Pokémon, Tornadus, Thundurus and Landorus, share the primary type with the 4th (Elesa/Electric), 5th (Clay/Ground) and 6th (Skyla/Flying) gym leaderof their region as well, if it's noted by the cration trio, we should add it here too.
(I am talking about '''primary''' types, I do know that Tornadus is pure-flying, since it can't be a flying/flying type.) ([[User:Celebi 21|Celebi 21]] 16:29, 20 June 2011 (UTC))

== Kami Trio and Whether Trio. ==

Shouldn't we be adding that the Kami Trio has a lot in common with the Whether Trio? Such as, Tornadus and Thundurus being able to create whether changes overworld, and Landurus being their master that can stop the massive destruction they are able to create much like Rayquaza can stop Groudon and Kyogre? {{unsigned|MrAkmalDanish}}

== Suggestion ==

Once the new forms are officially revealed, the term "Kami" would no longer apply to this trio. I know this is fanterm, but however they turn out to be called, clouds are the main feature shared by all six forms. So I suggest this page to be named "Cloud trio". Thank you. [[User:Duke R|'''|) u |( e''']] [[User talk:Duke R|'''®''']] 14:08, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

:Well, Tornadus' new forme seems to have only a small cloud on its tail, Landorus has small anklets of clouds, and Thundurus seems to feature clouds most, so I doubt they could go by "Cloud Trio". It just seems to me that they're still the Kami Trio, as they still have their main appearance (somewhat). I guess they'll just keep it at Kami Trio unless it's official revealed that they have different types or something. [[User:Pringles|プリングルズ/品客薯片/ప్రింగిల్స్]] 04:55, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

::Many kami in Shinto mythology are able to shape-shift their appearances into a wide variety of forms. While Rajin and Fujin are not known for shape-shifting, Inari definitely is, but that doesn't mean that Raijin and Fujin would be out of the question as they're still kami all the same. I personally think that "kami trio" can still work even with the introduction of the new forms, especially considering the shape-shifting tendencies of many kami. [[User:Rai Marshall|Rai Marshall]] 05:35, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

== 'us' end ==

All the names of the pokemon end in 'us'. That comes from Latin. All '''male''' objects or persons do also end in 'us'. Also, that they are based on gods, there are also (other) gods in Latin.

== Formes ==

i HAVE SEEN according to translations Tornadus, Thundurus and Landorus original forms are Incarnation Forme. Their new forms are Sacred Beast Formes.

Horn Drill (move)

2012-05-13T19:04:36Z

Poke1: /* In the anime */

{{MoveInfobox|
n=32 |
name=Horn Drill |
jname=つのドリル |
jtranslit=Tsuno Doriru |
jtrans=Horn Drill |
gameimage=Horn Drill.png |
type=Normal |
damagecategory=Physical |
basepp=5 |
maxpp=8 |
power=— |
accuracy={{tt|—|30% in Generation I}} |
bdesc=The move is highly inaccurate, but a hit results in a one-hit KO. |
gen=I |
category=Cool |
appeal=2 |
jam=1 |
cdesc=Badly startles all Pokémon that made good appeals. |
appealsc=0 |
scdesc=Earn +15 if all the Pokémon choose the same Judge. |
pokefordex=Horn%20Drill |
touches=yes |
protect=yes |
magiccoat=no |
snatch=no |
brightpowder=no |
kingsrock=no |
flag7=no |
flag8=no |
sound=no |
tm1=yes|
tm#1=07|
na=no|
target=anyadjacent |
footnotes= }}
'''Horn Drill''' (Japanese: '''つのドリル''' ''Horn Drill'') is a {{type2|Normal}} [[one-hit knockout move]] introduced in [[Generation I]]. It was [[TM07]] in Generation I.

==Effect==
===Generation I===
Horn Drill has 30% accuracy and inflicts damage equal to the target's current {{stat|HP}}. Horn Drill will break a {{m|Substitute}} if it hits, and can be {{m|counter}}ed for infinite damage when it does so.

Horn Drill will not affect a target whose current {{stat|Speed}} stat is greater than the user's current Speed stat.

===Generation II and on===
Unlike in Generation I, Horn Drill can affect a Pokémon whose Speed stat is greater than the user's current Speed stat. However, it cannot affect a Pokémon of a higher level. The accuracy of Horn Drill depends on the level of the user and the level of the target and is worked out with the formula: Accuracy = ((level of user-level of target) + 30)%. Horn Drill ignores all changes to accuracy and evasion stats.

Horn Drill can be {{m|counter}}ed for infinite damage if it misses in {{game2|Gold|Silver|Crystal}}. However, this does not apply to [[Pokémon Stadium 2]] and later games.
==Description==
{{incomplete|section|XD description}}
{{movedesc|Normal}}
{{movedescentry|Stad|A single-hit knockout attack. Learned only by Pokémon with a horn or horns.}}
{{movedescentry|Stad2|A single-hit knockout attack. Learned only by <sc>Pokémon</sc> with a horn or horns.}}
{{movedescentry|GSC|A one-hit KO, drill attack.}}
{{movedescentry|RSE|A one-hit KO attack that uses a horn like a drill.}}
{{movedescentry|FRLG|The horn is rotated like a drill to ram. The foe will faint if it hits.}}
{{movedescentry|Colo|A one-hit KO attack that uses a horn like a drill.}}
{{movedescentry|DPPtHGSS|The foe is stabbed with a horn rotating like a drill. The foe instantly faints if it hits.}}
{{movedescentry|BW|The user stabs the target with a horn that rotates like a drill. If it hits, the target faints instantly.}}
|}
|}{{left clear}}

==Learnset==
===By [[Level|leveling up]]===
{{Moveheader/Level|Normal|1}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|032|Nidoran♂|1|Poison|Poison|36|Y=38|38|47|45|45}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|033|Nidorino|1|Poison|Poison|41|Y=46|46|53|58|58}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|111|Rhyhorn|2|Ground|Rock|45|37|38|37|63}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|112|Rhydon|2|Ground|Rock|48|37|38|37|71}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|118|Goldeen|1|Water|Water|45|43|43|41|41}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|119|Seaking|1|Water|Water|48|49|49|47|47}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|464|Rhyperior|2|Ground|Rock|no|no|no|37|71}}
{{Moveentry/Level1|530|Excadrill|2|Ground|Steel|no|no|no|no|31}}
{{Movefooter|Normal|1}}

===By [[TM]]===
{{Moveheader/TM|Normal|1|TM07|no|no|no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|030|Nidorina|1|Poison|Poison|yes|no|no|no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|031|Nidoqueen|2|Poison|Ground|yes|no|no|no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|032|Nidoran♂|1|Poison|Poison|yes|no|no|no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|033|Nidorino|1|Poison|Poison|yes|no|no|no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|034|Nidoking|2|Poison|Ground|yes|no|no|no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|077|Ponyta|1|Fire|Fire|yes|no|no|no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|078|Rapidash|1|Fire|Fire|yes|no|no|no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|086|Seel|1|Water|Water|yes|no|no|no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|087|Dewgong|2|Water|Ice|yes|no|no|no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|111|Rhyhorn|2|Ground|Rock|yes|no|no|no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|112|Rhydon|2|Ground|Rock|yes|no|no|no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|118|Goldeen|1|Water|Water|yes|no|no|no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|119|Seaking|1|Water|Water|yes|no|no|no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|128|Tauros|1|Normal|Normal|yes|no|no|no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|131|Lapras|2|Water|Ice|yes|no|no|no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|139|Omastar|2|Rock|Water|yes|no|no|no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|148|Dragonair|1|Dragon|Dragon|yes|no|no|no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|149|Dragonite|2|Dragon|Flying|yes|no|no|no|no}}
{{Moveentry/TM1|151|Mew|1|Psychic|Psychic|yes|no|no|no|no}}
{{Movefooter|Normal|1}}

===By {{pkmn|breeding}}===
{{Moveheader/Breed|Normal|2}}
{{Moveentry/Breed2|077|Ponyta|1|Fire|Fire|no|no|{{MSP|032|Nidoran♂}}{{MSP|033|Nidorino}}{{MSP|111|Rhyhorn}}{{MSP|112|Rhydon}}{{MSP|464|Rhyperior}}|{{MSP|032|Nidoran♂}}{{MSP|033|Nidorino}}{{MSP|111|Rhyhorn}}{{MSP|112|Rhydon}}{{MSP|464|Rhyperior}}{{MSP|530|Excadrill}}}}
{{Moveentry/Breed2|086|Seel|1|Water|Water|no|{{MSP|032|Nidoran♂}}{{MSP|033|Nidorino}}{{MSP|111|Rhyhorn}}{{MSP|112|Rhydon}}|{{MSP|032|Nidoran♂}}{{MSP|033|Nidorino}}{{MSP|111|Rhyhorn}}{{MSP|112|Rhydon}}{{MSP|464|Rhyperior}}|{{MSP|032|Nidoran♂}}{{MSP|033|Nidorino}}{{MSP|111|Rhyhorn}}{{MSP|112|Rhydon}}{{MSP|464|Rhyperior}}{{MSP|530|Excadrill}}}}
{{Moveentry/Breed2|131|Lapras|2|Water|Ice|no|{{MSP|032|Nidoran♂}}{{MSP|033|Nidorino}}{{MSP|111|Rhyhorn}}{{MSP|112|Rhydon}}|{{MSP|032|Nidoran♂}}{{MSP|033|Nidorino}}{{MSP|111|Rhyhorn}}{{MSP|112|Rhydon}}{{MSP|464|Rhyperior}}|{{MSP|032|Nidoran♂}}{{MSP|033|Nidorino}}{{MSP|111|Rhyhorn}}{{MSP|112|Rhydon}}{{MSP|464|Rhyperior}}}}
{{Movefooter|Normal|2}}

===By {{pkmn2|event}}===
====[[Generation II]]====
{{Learnlistspecial|Normal}}
{{Moveentryspecial|206|Dunsparce|1|Normal|Normal|{{DL|List of Nintendo event Pokémon in Generation II|Exeggcute|New York City Pokémon Center}}}}
{{Learnlist/footer}}

====[[Generation V]]====
{{Learnlistspecial|Normal}}
{{Moveentryspecial|131|Lapras|2|Water|Ice|{{pkmn|Dream World}} - {{dwa|Sparkling Sea}}}}
{{Learnlist/footer}}

==In the anime==
{{moveanime|type=normal|exp=yes|gen=The foe is stabbed with a horn rotating like a drill.|image3=Misty Goldeen Horn Drill.png|image3p=Goldeen|image1=Rhydon Horn Drill.png|image1p=Rhydon|image2=Forrest Rhyperior Horn Drill.png|image2p=Rhyperior|image4=Clay Excadrill Horn Drill.png|image4p=Excadrill}}
{{movep|type=normal|ms=112|pkmn=Rhydon|method=Rhydon's horn spins like a drill and it charges at the opponent. It then stabs the opponent with its horn.}}
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Blaine|user1=Blaine's Rhydon|startcode=EP058|startname=Riddle Me This|notes=Debut}}
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Rhydon (Pokémon)|user1=An archeologist's Rhydon|startcode=EP089|startname=Shell Shock!}}
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Pietra|user1=Pietra's Rhydon|startcode=EP204|startname=Right on, Rhydon!}}
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Rhydon (Pokémon)|user1=A Coordinator's Rhydon|startcode=AG160|startname=Harley Rides Again}}
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Head engineer|user1=Head engineer's Rhydon|startcode=DP057|startname=Bibarel Gnaws Best!}}
{{movep|type=normal|ms=119|pkmn=Seaking|method=Seaking's horn begins to spin like a drill. Then, it rams its spinning horn into the opponent, sometimes repeatedly.}}
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Seaking (Pokémon)|user1=Cerulean Gym's Seaking|startcode=EP061|startname=The Misty Mermaid}}
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Seaking (Pokémon)|user1=Unknown Trainer's Seaking|startcode=EP075|startname=Round One - Begin!}}
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Juan|user1=Juan's Seaking|startcode=AG110|startname=The Great Eight Fate!|endcode=AG111|endname=Eight Ain't Enough!}}
{{movep|type=normal|ms=118|pkmn=Goldeen|method=Goldeen's horn spins like a drill and it hits the opponent with it.}}
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Misty's Goldeen|startcode=EP256|startname=Just Add Water}}
{{movep|type=normal|ms=464|pkmn=Rhyperior|method=Rhyperior's horn spins like a drill and it hits the opponent with it.}}
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Forrest|user1=Forrest's Rhyperior|startcode=SS025|startname=SS025}}
{{movep|type=normal|ms=530|pkmn=Excadrill|method=The helmet on Excadrill's head glows silver, grows longer and spins like a drill. Excadrill then rams the opponent with it.}}
{{movebtm|type=normal|user=Clay|user1=Clay's Excadrill|startcode=BW061|startname=Battling the King of the Mines!}}

==In the manga==
===Pokémon Adventures===
{{Movemanga|type=normal|exp=yes|gen=The foe is stabbed with a horn rotating like a drill.|image1=Rhydon Horn Drill Adventures.png|image1p=Rhydon}}
{{movep|type=normal|ms=112|pkmn=Rhydon|method=Rhydon's horn spins like a drill and it stabs the opponent with it.}}
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Koga|user1=Koga's Rhydon|startcode=PS007|startname=Raging Rhydon|notes=Debut}}
{{movebtmManga|type=normal|user=Silver (Adventures)|user1=Silver's Rhydon|startcode=PS162|startname=Spinning Top Hitmontop}}

==In other generations==
{{Movegen|
type=normal|
genI=Horn Drill I|
genII=Horn Drill II|
genIII=Horn Drill III|
genIV=Horn Drill IV|
}}
{{Movegen|
type=Normal|
Stad=Horn Drill Stadium|
}}

==Trivia==
* {{p|Mew}} and {{p|Ponyta}} are the only Pokémon that can learn this move without having any visible horns, spikes, or stingers.

==In other languages==
{{Langtable|color={{normal color}}|bordercolor={{normal color dark}}
|zh_cmn=獨角鑽 ''{{tt|Dújiǎozuān|Horn Drill}}''
|nl=Hoornboor
|fi=Sarvipora
|fr=Empal'Korne
|de=Hornbohrer
|el=Κέρατο Τρυπάνι
|it=Perforcorno
|ko=뿔드릴 ''Ppul Drill''
|pl=Świdroróg
|sr=Rog-Bušilica
|es=Perforador}}
{{-}}
{{OHKO|Normal}}
{{-}}
{{Generation I TMs}}
{{-}}
{{Project Moves and Abilities notice}}

[[Category:One-hit knockout moves]]

[[de:Hornbohrer]]
[[fr:Empal'Korne]]
[[it:Perforcorno (mossa)]]
[[ja:つのドリル]]
[[pl:Horn Drill]]
[[pt:Horn Drill]]

Talk:Pokémon Black and White Versions 2

2012-04-20T22:54:16Z

Poke1: /* Pictures */

==Formes==
It says "Two new formes" but it does not say "of Kyurem." [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]]) 02:22, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:We won't know if they are formes of Kyurem until a source confirms it. Right now, it's all speculation.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 02:26, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
::While it is all speculation they look more like alternate forms of Reshiram and Zekrom instead. [[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen Fennec]] 02:34, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:::[https://twitter.com/#!/Junichi_Masuda/status/173576515219505153 Stated Kyurem here.] But there's debate on whether they're forms or separate Pokémon. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 02:36, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
::::Ah, nice to know then. Wonder if they'll have something to do with Reshiram and Zekrom at all, also looking forward to a bit of change in the overall story plot. [[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen Fennec]] 02:39, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:::::Well, from what it looks like, it seems that it is combining Zekrom/Reshiram with Kyurem. I wonder how they will do that? Item? Special shrine? But about what Jo said above, they will be forms, as it says in [[Kyurem]]s trivia ''"There is placeholder data for an alternate form of Kyurem in Pokémon Black and White".'' --[[User:Rsrdaman|'''×Rsr''']][[User_Talk:Rsrdaman|'''daman×''']] 02:59, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
::::::Actually, if you watch the trailer for the new movie coming out on the Japanese website, it shows Zekrom and Reshiram's powers going into Kyurem. This further confirms that these are Kyurem's alternate formes, and not Zekrom's our Reshiram's. [[User:Mikk317|Mikk317]] 05:10, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
I saw the covers of the games,and the white and black kyurem's on the covers look completely different then normal white kyurem and black kyurem.What gives?--[[User:Supermon|Supermon]] 12:38, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
:There's also two "formes" for Reshiram and Zekrom (lit up and not lit up). They are apparently some "mode" (Formes with forms?). We don't really know much about them yet. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:44, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

thanks. i thought that Kyurem had 5 formes or something!--[[User:Supermon|Supermon]] 11:30, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

reshiram and zekrom don't have two forms that is their animation.--[[User:Poke1|Poke1]] 22:48, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

And in the commercial it shows how kyurem changes from white kyurem without the tubes on the back to the white kyurem on the boxart.--[[User:Poke1|Poke1]] 23:58, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

== Names of mascots ==

Junichi Masuda has stated on Twitter that the names of the new forms are '''White Kyurem''' and '''Black Kyurem'''. [[User:ZMT123|ZMT123]] 03:32, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

==Interwiki==
Page is blocked, could you add an interwiki link to [[:it:Pokémon Nero e Bianco 2]]?--[[User:Qwilava|Qwilava]] 08:37, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:Added. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 08:38, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

==US website==
Doesn't appear to have been added. [http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-video-games/pokemon-black-version-2-and-pokemon-white-version-2/ It's not much, but it's official.] [[User:GoldenCelebi|GoldenCelebi]] 10:57, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:I am reluctant to add it. It is just a sub-section, unlike [http://www.pokemonblackwhite.com/ this one]. ♫♪ [[User:Adyniz|'''エイデ''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''ィニズ''']] ♪♫ 11:21, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

== Color's for representation. ==

To avoid confusion with Black and White I think the 2 colors that represent this game on Wiki pages should be a blue and red to match the color on each logo and background for the official site. What do you guys think? [[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 12:41, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:What about if it gets confused instead with the Generation I games Red and Blue? Just pointing out... [[User:Haxorus|'''Hax''']][[User talk:Haxorus|'''or''']][[Special:MyContributions|'''us''']] 12:45, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
::All I have to say is Ruby and Sapphire. Besides they will be a different shade just like Ruby and Sapphire where and they will also be reversed, being Blue and Red instead of Red and Blue.[[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 12:55, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:::Thank you to the person who changed the color.[[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 13:14, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
::::Wait, who changed it back and why?[[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 13:53, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

== Mascots reversed? ==

I just noticed something on [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/4/46/Kyurem_forms.png the new release]. The Kyurem/Zekrom and Kyurem/Reshiram are reversed. On the original B/W, Zekrom was on the white side, and Reshiram on the black side. Its seems its reversed now.--[[User:Rsrdaman|'''×Rsr''']][[User_Talk:Rsrdaman|'''daman×''']] 15:28, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:Yes they are, but this isn't the right place for that discussion. Please go to the forums with comments/questions of this nature. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 15:44, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

== generation ==

why is it under generation v? is there any offical source to this (even though we know it might be true) -[[User:Pokeant|Pokeant]] 16:37, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

We don't really know if it is Gen V, but the fact that it uses forms of a Gen V Pokemon as its mascot make if all but confirmed. The way it looks, at least for now, is that they decided to ditch the 3rd game idea for this Gen and instead do two full sequels to BW. If they say these are a new gen or we see completely new Pokemon then we can start talking about this being Gen VI, but as it stands I think we should just leave it be.[[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 16:41, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

== Trying to clear up some unconfirmed rumors ==

I suggest a paragraph be added to the article stating something like "There is no confirmation on whether these games are a [[third version]] or not." [[User:Bwburke94|Bwburke94]] 20:26, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

The article doesn't even insinuate that, it says out right that they are second paired versions. 2 games can't be a 3rd version.[[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 22:43, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

:What he trying to mean is, most people think that these games are the '"double" 3rd versions, like Platinum, Emerald and Crystal. But if that's so, you mean these are just the continued part of original B&W? There will be a real "third" version? That's almost impossible. {{unsigned|Acellutor}}

== Classification ==

Well,looks like it can have'''3''' types-Dragon+ice+fire\electric.And can it be a new duo or trio with Kyurem or Part of the tao trio?--Shravs [[User talk:Littleroot leader shravan(ability leader)|(New Bark Gym)]] 05:09, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
:From sources, Kyurem has two new forms, each resemblin to Zekrom and/or Reshiram. So it would still be within the Tao trio. But 3 types is OP, and awkward considering the type advantages/disadvantages. I would say Kyurem would be Ice/Dragon but retaining the power of it's other form. My speculation point, but I would doubt 3 types. [[User:Chocos0|Chocos0]] 06:06, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

==European Autumn 2012 Release Confirmed==
Could someone with the powers to edit this page please add that Nintendo UK have confirmed an Autumn 2012 release for this pair? Source: http://www.officialnintendomagazine.co.uk/35866/pokemon-black-and-white-2-uk-release-date-is-autumn-2012/ [[User:Ryu Shoji|Ryu Shoji]], 10:56, 27 February, 2012 (BST)
:Done. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:14, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

== North America release confirmed: Fall 2012 ==

The American release window has been confirmed - see this article: http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2012/02/north_america_gets_pokemon_black_and_white_2_this_fall

I'm unable to add it to the article myself, so can someone who is able to edit it add the date?
[[User:NFreak007|NFreak007]] 14:55, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
:I just found out about this myself and updated [[n:Pokémon Black and White 2 coming to North America and Europe this autumn|the Bulbanews article]]. This page is now fixed too. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 15:01, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

== Redirect sentence regarding the BW002 episode ==

Greetings, I respectfully disagree with the unitalicising of the English title portion, "Enter Iris and Axew". On this site, all episode titles are italicised when put against regular unitalicised text, and the opposite should be done in this case as in other examples elsewhere in life. [[User:Haxorus|'''Hax''']][[User talk:Haxorus|'''or''']][[Special:MyContributions|'''us''']] 15:51, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
:It is already italicized, which is what is used for titles. When it is surrounded by italicized text, it doesn't need to become un-italicized. This is how everything else does it anyway. It is more important to have the title in italics rather than in contrast to regular text. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 03:23, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

== 3ds or ds ==

will this be on 3ds or ds i need to know {{unsigned|Pokefanboy}}

:It'll be on the [[Nintendo DS]], but will be compatible with the [[Nintendo 3DS]]. Yes, the press release was confusing. By the way, it's a good idea to sign your posts with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>, which is converted into an automatic link to your userpage. {{unsigned|GoldenCelebi}}
:That article mentions this. Don't mean to sound rude, but this is exactly what this site is for. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 18:05, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

== English artwork ==
Possible to use these artworks? [http://fronttowardsgamer.com/2012/02/27/pokemon-black-and-white-2-announced/ Black & White 2] -- [[User:Chickensdoorknob|ℂℏɨ₡ƙ℮ᵰᵴ∂ⱺ☮яϰŊøɓ]] 23:53, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
:Those look fanmade. They look nothing like the leaked Japanese boxes and they always use the same. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 00:02, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
::Those aren't fanmade, actually- they're on [http://www.play-asia.com/Pokemon_White_Version_2/paOS-13-71-ba-49-en-70-4lbh.html Playasia] and other pre-order sites. They're only placeholders, though. Official placeholders, but placeholders nonetheless. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] 15:04, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
:::Look at them, they were made in MSPaint. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 15:08, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

== Two official artworks? ==

How come Black Kyurem and White Kyurem have two official artworks? I'm not saying it's a mistake or even a lie, you can easily check that it's true by watching the Flash intro animation of the Japanese website. But that's the issue here: why are there two different yet official artworks for both of Kyurem's new Formes? [[User:Pokemon lover|Sato]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|Mew]] 17:33, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
:There's also two artworks for Reshiram and Zekrom (lit up and not lit up). They are apparently some "mode" (Formes with forms?). We don't really know much about them yet. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:36, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

I have the same opinion. The boxart may be some kind of 'mode' as in 'burst mode'or something. The boxart of White Kyurem looks vaguely similar to the art of primal dialga. The pic aforementioned is present in the bulbapedia archive. Please give ur thoughts on this post.[[User:Auraguardian197|Auraguardian197]]

i think it has to do with its ability. the glowing might be from turboblaze ant terravolt to white/black kyurem respectively. -{{u|deoxys80}}
:It's just their Overdrive mode. Reshiram and Zekrom had the ''exact same thing''. [[:a:File:643Reshiram.png|Normal Reshiram]], [[:a:File:643Reshiram-Activated.png|Overdrive Reshiram]]. [[:a:File:644Zekrom.png|Normal Zekrom]], [[:a:File:644Zekrom-Activated.png|Overdrive Zekrom]]. It has nothing to do with abilities, or moves, or formes. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 18:21, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

== Trivia? ==

Would it be relevant and/or noteworthy to add that these games mark the second time the main series Pokémon games have the number 2 in their names, with the first time being the name initially announced for the original Gold and Silver ('''{{tt|ポケットモンスター２金・銀|Poketto Monsutā 2: Kin Gin}}''' ''Pocket Monsters 2: Gold and Silver'')? Even though the 2 was eventually dropped for Gold and Silver, it was still an official yet temporary name. [[User:Pokemon lover|Sato]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|Mew]] 17:49, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
:I'm totally for this. Something like: "These games are the first games in the main series to be released with a "2" in their name, though the Japanese versions of G/S were intended to have tis number in their name but this was dropped before release" ?? As long as there's a nod to the almost-Pkmn 2: G/S thing I think it's a great idea! [[User:Oshawhat?|Oshawhat?]] 09:14, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

== Parameter on the Japanese website URL ==

The URL for the Japanese website does not need the '''?a001=msign''' parameter. Please remove it. [[User:Pokemon lover|Sato]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|Mew]] 22:25, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

== Second set of direct sequels? ==

Aren't Black 2 and White 2 the second set of direct sequels in the main series? Gold and Silver are direct sequels to Red and Green (likewise, HeartGold and SoulSilver are direct sequels to FireRed and LeafGreen). The only difference is that they're from separate generations, since for all we know, Black 2 and White 2 are Generation V games like Black and White. If so, shouldn't this be mentioned in the article? [[User:Pokemon lover|Sato]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|Mew]] 22:31, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
:Considering that it hasn't even really been confirmed that these are sequels, I'd say no. Wait until we know for sure at least. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] 00:11, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
::Don't worry, I'll wait. I can't edit the article anyway. I was just pointing out this so it can be taken in consideration when we have full details about the games. [[User:Pokemon lover|Sato]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|Mew]] 13:56, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

==No info?==

Ummmm... The games are available for preorder. Shouldn't there be info on the storyline and stuff? it's-a me, [[User:Slowbro|anonymous]]
:One would think there would be more info by now, but the reason is simply because no more info has been released. When more info is released it will be added to the article. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 22:50, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
::We will be getting lots of info next [[Pokémon Smash!]] (they said they would be revealing B2W2 info on that episode). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:14, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

==Beta==

This could turn into beta. Any official source confirming that people are making this game? The above [[Special:Contributions/Wildgoose|comment]] is [[User talk: Wildgoose|supported]] by [[User:Wildgoose|Wildgoose]]. 00:57, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
:Go to the article and scroll to the bottom. There is a list of sources there. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 01:09, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

== Australian Release Date ==

In the infobox, it lists the Australian release as Spring 2012. At first this really confused me as I thought only Japan got it this Spring. Because of the different seasons in the Northern and Southern hemisphere, and because a lot of Bulbapedia's users come from the Northern Hemisphere, could we add a tooltip to make it {{tt|Spring 2012|Northern Hemisphere Fall/Autumn}}. I think this would help a lot of people who came to the site. [[User:MajesticRayquaza|''Majestic'']][[User talk:MajesticRayquaza|'''Rayquaza''']] 09:08, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
:I don't think so. The seasons will become irrelevant once we get an actual date, and the only people who should really be concerned with the release date are the people it applies to (i.e. Oceanians.) Plus it might seem unfair. If we put a note for the Northerners that South Spring = North Autumn, then we should do the same for Southerners that North Autumn = South Spring. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 09:16, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

== Amazon release date ==

Not sure if this means anything but I just saw that Amazon (through the official Nintendo seller) has the two versions up for pre-order with a release date of December 31, 2012 (I'm not sure if that's their generic date for an unknown release or the actual date though). [[User:OnixPachirisu|OnixPachirisu]] 18:52, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
:It's just a placeholder so they can take pre-orders. Nintendo already announced a fall (Sept-Nov) release. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 18:57, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

== More Release Date info ==

Per Play-Asia, the Japanese Version's release date is June 23rd, and the US release will be in October: http://www.play-asia.com/paOScore/19-71-8s-49-en-15-Pokemon-43-8s-18-2.html

[[User:Luigi-San|Luigi-San]] 03:09, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
:Well the Japanese release date is true. October does fit for the US, though is Play-asia a good source for information on the US release date? In any case, we'll probably find out about the US release date in a few months. Maybe E3? [[User:Torpoleon|Torpoleon]] 17:38, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
::It's been known for like [https://twitter.com/#!/bulbanews/status/179568320293511168 a month now]. Play-Asia is a decent source but I would still prefer to wait for an official source to confirm it, just for precautionary measures. ♫♪ [[User:Adyniz|'''エイデ''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''ィニズ''']] ♪♫ 17:46, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

== Update ==
Page needs to be updated with new Coro Coro information. [[User:Dragonace|Dragonace]] 06:58, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
:Not yet.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 07:24, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

== Ice cover ==

I don't think the article should say that Unova is engulfed in ice because it says in the Bulbanews article that it is unconfirmed whether that is actually part of the region or it is just there to cover up areas that haven't been revealed yet. [[User:PkmnChmp5|PkmnChmp5]] 23:38, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
:I agree too. There seems to be a confusion. [[User:Han Ji-Wan|Han Ji-Wan]] 23:47, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
From a talk page it says that CoroCoro confirmed the ice is only to cover upcoming stuff--[[User:Poke1|Poke1]] 17:12, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
:::According to {{u|Umeko}}'s Nihongo-fu: ''What Corocoro says in reference to the ice is essentially "What in the world is with the map freezing over? Has something strange happened?!"'' [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 17:26, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

what is a Umeko's Nihongo-fu?--[[User:Poke1|Poke1]] 20:59, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
* Umeko is a person, and "Nihongo" is the Japanese word for "Japanese". It's an attempt by Umeko at translating it from Japanese. [[User:Rickie-d|Rickie-d]] 01:19, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

== Towns ==

I am 99.9% certain that there are 3 towns in Southwest Unova, not 2. [[User:Han Ji-Wan|Han Ji-Wan]] 03:15, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

It says at least 2 towns.--[[User:Poke1|Poke1]] 20:58, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

I see three towns but the one below Driftveil City could also be something similar to Cold Storage. [[User:Ariano|Ariano]] 08:19, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

=="2"==
I think that Black ＆ White 2 is a reference to this version taking place 2 years after Black ＆ White. [[User:Ethan12|Ethan12]] 14:18, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

== Images ==

I don't know if I'm doing this right, but... maybe these images can be used in the article?

<gallery>
File:BlackWhite2-SC1.png|The theater?
File:BlackWhite2-SC2.png|The male player character and the rival's VS sprites
File:BlackWhite2-SC3.png|The player character meeting the rival
File:BlackWhite2-SC4.png|Akuroma...
File:BlackWhite2-SC5.png|The player meets Akuroma in Castelia
File:BlackWhite2-SC6.png|The player meets Shizui
File:BlackWhite2-SC7.png|The player and Akuroma in an unknown location
File:BlackWhite2-SC8.png|Homika's gym
File:BlackWhite2-SC9.png|Possibly outside Shizui's gym
File:BlackWhite2-SC10.png|The player character, the rival and Shizui in a beach, near to the entrance of a cave
</gallery>

--[[User:PenblooeR|PenblooeR]] 19:56, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
That depends.did you get these pictures from a reliable source? [[User:Pokabu218|Pokabu218]] 14:56, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

[http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/b2w2/characters/ I think so.] --[[User:PenblooeR|PenblooeR]] 15:50, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

It looks like the official Japanese black2 and white2 so I would say those pictures are valid but I'm not sure so I would ask help from another editor.

[http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/b2w2/characters/ They're from the japanese Pokémon website.] What do you think? --[[User:PenblooeR|PenblooeR]] 19:45, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

== Starters ==

Are the starters for black and white 2 tepig oshawott and snivy because pokemon smash shows it.--[[User:Poke1|Poke1]] 01:59, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
:Obviously. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 02:12, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

==battle animations?==

I guess constant battle animations are confirmed, due to the trailer? [[User:Pringles|Pringles]] 02:56, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

== English Cover ==

The english Cover is revealed: http://www.wog.ch/nas/cover_large/ds/ds_pokemonblack2.jpg --[[User:Altruis|Altruis]] 18:24, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
:Can you please provide the source of the picture? [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 18:27, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Yes: http://www.wog.ch/index.cfm/details/product/28172-Pokemon-Schwarze-Edition-2 and http://www.softridge.ch/c1-/p4880/pokemon-schwarze-edition-2.html --[[User:Altruis|Altruis]] 18:29, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
:IMO it looks like placeholder boxart, because it doesn't match the Japanese artwork (which is usually does). There is also a watermark in the image. I would wait for a more official source to confirm it. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 18:40, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
I agree also because it is rating pending by ESRB but it shows a rating in the bottom right corner [[User:Pokabu218|Pokabu218]] 14:37, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
:That's not an ESRB rating. It's PEGI. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 16:13, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
Your right. I noticed that after I made the comment but did not have the time to fix it. [[User:Pokabu218|Pokabu218]] 17:44, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

== Unova Ice unconfirmed. ==

(Yeah, I know somebody already posted something like this...)
I don't think we should say that Unova is engulfed in ice, unless that is specifically confirmed. Maybe the ice is just there to cover up the other changes of Unova just for now, and I think if that much of Unova was covered in ice, there would only be like, three gyms. I think we should remove the part saying that part of Unova is covered in ice, because that is just speculation from the art, we have no proof that this is confirmed. [[User:Zarthga|Zarthga]] 07:23, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
:"I think if that much of Unova was covered in ice, there would only be like, three gyms." Castelia, Nimbasa, Driftveil, Mistralton and Opelucid aren't covered in ice. And there will be two new leaders, Shizui and Homika, totalizing seven citites with gyms that aren't covered in ice. Maybe the Icirrus gym will be still active, as it's an Ice-type gym... --[[User:PenblooeR|PenblooeR]] 15:50, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
::God, there are still people who believe that they really destroyed half of Unova? God... --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 17:39, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
:::"The Unova region ''appears'' to have changed greatly." (From the article; italics mine.) It does actually imply that it's inferred from the map, although I agree it's a little ambiguous. -- [[User:GoldenCelebi|Golden]][[User talk:GoldenCelebi|Celebi]] 17:50, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
::::Guys, this is turning into a speculation discussion. Unless you have undeniable proof one way or the other, please take this to the forums and stop the discussion here. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 18:23, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

== Pictures ==

Can this pic be used?

<gallery>
File:RivalBW2.png|rival from opening.
</gallery>

Talk:Pokémon Black and White Versions 2

2012-04-20T22:54:02Z

Poke1: /* Pictures */ new section

Aspertia City

2012-04-19T23:54:51Z

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{{upcoming notice}}
{{Town infobox
|name=Hiougi City
|jpname=ヒオウギシティ
|jptrans=Hiougi City
|image=Hiougi City CoroCoro May 2012.png
|size=256
|region=Unova
|generation=5
|regionnorth=Unova
|colordark=444
|colormed=838383
|colorlight=C3C3C3
}}
(Japanese: '''ヒオウギシティ''' ''Hiougi City'') is a small city situated in the southwestern [[Unova]] and serves as the hometown of the main protagonists in {{game|Black and White|s 2|Pokémon Black 2 and White 2}}. The settlement exists on Unova's western strip of land, and is surrounded by forest. The entrance to the city is through a yet unnamed route to the north.

Hiougi City contains some prominent areas of interest such as the Trainers' School, a lookout, and a [[Pokémon Center]]. It is a newly developed area containing modern buildings and houses. The city is respectively larger than other [[hometown]]s within the [[version|main series games]] and is the first to be a city and to contain a Pokémon Center, Trainer's School, and a concreted path.

==Places of interest==
===Player's house===
{{main|Bedroom}}
The player's house lies in southeastern Hiougi City and is where the player lives before beginning their journey. The player's house has a small flower garden and is situated by a body of water.

===Trainers' School===
A Trainers' School, situated just west of the Pokémon Center, is a school where students and {{pkmn|Trainer}}s can learn more about {{OBP|Pokémon|species}}.

===Lookout===
The lookout is a platform built onto a hill at the cities north-most point. There are stairs, which ascend to an observation deck hosting a green lamppost. The lookout overlooks a panoramic view of a scenic landscape featuring trees and a lake in the foreground and a mountain range in the background.

==Gallery==
<gallery>
File:B2W2 Hiougi City House.png|The player's house with a garden
File:B2W2 Hiougi City Center.png|The Trainers' School and a Pokémon Center
File:B2W2 Hiougi City Lookout.png|A lookout overlooking a scenic landscape north of the city
</gallery>

==Trivia==
*Hiougi City is the only city to serve as a [[hometown]] to the [[player character]] in the [[version|main series]] {{pkmn|games|video games}}, whereas all other main series games begin in a town.
*This is the first [[hometown]] to have a Pokémon Center and the first to have a Trainers' school.

==Name origin==
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| ヒオウギシティン ''Hiougi City''
| From 檜扇紋 ''hiougimon'', a pattern based on a folding fan made made from a hinoki cypress.
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User talk:Pokemaster97/Archive 3

2012-04-16T03:10:58Z

Poke1: /* Arceus */

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== Appearances ==

Ok, isn't the same thing appeared in a brief cameo or made ? And the other section is created when there is a spotlight section. Read my discussion with MAGNEDETH on my talk page and you'll understand.--[[User:DJWolfy|--'''DJ''']][[User talk:DJWolfy|'''Wolfy''']] 08:09, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
:I changed the wording to "Made a brief cameo appearance" because it flowed better than what you wrote originally. Regarding the "Other" section I didn't see what you were doing at first so that's why I undid you. So I'll take responsibility for that part. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 13:41, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
::No need to worry, just wanted to make sure you understand. I sure had a rough time trying to understand what magnedeth was trying to explain me. As for the "flow" you're welcome to modify ~appeared to made~ everywhere I added. There's a complete list on [[M11]]'s {{tt|page|marked with (cameo)}}.--[[User:DJWolfy|--'''DJ''']][[User talk:DJWolfy|'''Wolfy''']] 14:55, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

== Crydex ==

You must use FireFox or a similar browser with .ogg support. IE will not work. Also the linkage doesn't really matter, only the browser. I'll put that on there then...--[[User:Rsrdaman|'''×Rsr''']][[User_Talk:Rsrdaman|'''daman×''']] 07:42, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
:Hmmm, well while it's not a problem for me (I have FireFox as well) it does kinda leave out users with Internet Explorer which could be inconvient for some users/readers. Not saying your idea is bad, but just consider those people stuck with IE. Keep up the good work though~ [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 21:09, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

== Bianca's Emboar ==

Please calculate again. It shows the episode as a Pignite, not the episode for waiting to evolve as a Emboar. [[User:KyleRGiggs|[[User:KyleRGiggs|Ray]][[User talk:KyleRGiggs|mond]]]] 12:20, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
:But we don't know ''when'' it evolved.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:25, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
::The last time we saw Pignite (BW049) it was a Pignite. When we saw it in BW071, it was an Emboar. She never stated when it evolved, therefore it evolved somewhere between BW050 and BW069. Considering its debut was BW013, that makes it somewhere between 22 and 58 episodes which we ''know'' it was a Pignite. It is like this on other pages as well. (See: [[May's Wartortle]]) [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 12:42, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

==Mack==
A [http://www.mangareader.net/458-28418-6/pokemon-adventures/chapter-220.html scan] of Pokémon Adventures says otherwise. {{unsigned|Mikuri}}
:I'm sorry, but that image isn't showing up on my computer, can you explain what the image is or link to another site please? [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 03:46, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
::The images shows Courtney saying that the Three Fires in Team Magma refer to the three Coordinators within the team, so Mack and Tabitha are also Coordinators.--[[User:Mikuri|Mikuri]] 03:55, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
::Try [http://manga.animea.net/pokemon-adventures-chapter-220-page-6.html this] link. --[[User:Mikuri|Mikuri]] 04:02, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
:::Hmmm, I don't think the type of Coordinator they are referring to are the kind that enter contests correct? If that's correct that means you are correct to say that they are coordinators, but the category link you used links to the wrong type of coordinator. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 04:21, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
::::Courtney tries to convince Ruby to join Team Magma telling him that the three admins of the team are Coordinators like him. See the following page. Well, that's how I interpreted. If I'm wrong, I apologize. --[[User:Mikuri|Mikuri]] 04:28, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
:::::I'm honestly conflicted :/ You would probably be better off going to the Head of Manga {{u|Zesty Cactus}} and see what she thinks about it. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 04:46, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
::::::I'll talk to her. Thank you. --[[User:Mikuri|Mikuri]] 04:54, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

== Juanita's Golurk and Fly ==
There has been some disagreement that Juanita's Golurk actually used Fly. While I agree that the mere act of flying is not in and of itself a use of the move Fly, I would like to argue that Juanita's Golurk is a different case, because not only does Golurk fly, it uses flight to launch a direct attack on Damon's Reshiram/Zekrom repeatedly that cannot be recognized as any other move. In addition, just before Golurk attacks Reshiram/Zekrom for the first time, Juanita calls out "Golurk, stop <Reshiram/Zekrom>!" which is an attack order that doesn't actually name an attack, which we've seen before. --[[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] 03:16, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
:Yea, I wasn't really involved with that issue so I'll give you BotD. On the Samurai's talk page I was saying be careful not to assume that actions are moves all of the time. This is one of those cases where it would be fair to assume it was the move fly. However, with less appearent moves we can't be 100% sure. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 15:51, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

== Arceus ==

Is it possible for arceus to learn draco meteor without the draco plate? because mine did.--[[User:Poke1|Poke1]] 16:07, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
:According to the Draco Meteor page, Arceus should not be able to learn that move without the Draco plate. Are you sure it wasn't holding a draco plate at the time? [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 00:54, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
No i sold the draco plate on accident--[[User:Poke1|Poke1]] 03:10, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

== Congratulations! ==

Welcome aboard! <s>officially.</s> So happy to have you on board with us. May not get a chance to talk to you on AIM 'cause of the busy schedule, so here it is. Also, use your new ''tools'' wisely and keep up the good work ;) ♫♪ [[User:Adyniz|'''エイデ''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''ィニズ''']] ♪♫ 17:16, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
:Oh my goodness. All these colors and links~ I'm still having a hard time believing this, thank you and I will do my best! [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 21:58, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
::Congrats on the promotion mate :) [[User:05308|Diamond]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|Lanturn]] [[User talk:05308|CodeName: 05308]] 22:14, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
:::Thanks :) [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 22:30, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
congrats--[[User:Poke1|Poke1]] 00:48, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
:Thanks :) [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 00:54, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

User talk:Pokemaster97/Archive 3

2012-04-16T00:48:02Z

Poke1: /* Congratulations! */

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== Appearances ==

Ok, isn't the same thing appeared in a brief cameo or made ? And the other section is created when there is a spotlight section. Read my discussion with MAGNEDETH on my talk page and you'll understand.--[[User:DJWolfy|--'''DJ''']][[User talk:DJWolfy|'''Wolfy''']] 08:09, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
:I changed the wording to "Made a brief cameo appearance" because it flowed better than what you wrote originally. Regarding the "Other" section I didn't see what you were doing at first so that's why I undid you. So I'll take responsibility for that part. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 13:41, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
::No need to worry, just wanted to make sure you understand. I sure had a rough time trying to understand what magnedeth was trying to explain me. As for the "flow" you're welcome to modify ~appeared to made~ everywhere I added. There's a complete list on [[M11]]'s {{tt|page|marked with (cameo)}}.--[[User:DJWolfy|--'''DJ''']][[User talk:DJWolfy|'''Wolfy''']] 14:55, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

== Crydex ==

You must use FireFox or a similar browser with .ogg support. IE will not work. Also the linkage doesn't really matter, only the browser. I'll put that on there then...--[[User:Rsrdaman|'''×Rsr''']][[User_Talk:Rsrdaman|'''daman×''']] 07:42, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
:Hmmm, well while it's not a problem for me (I have FireFox as well) it does kinda leave out users with Internet Explorer which could be inconvient for some users/readers. Not saying your idea is bad, but just consider those people stuck with IE. Keep up the good work though~ [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 21:09, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

== Bianca's Emboar ==

Please calculate again. It shows the episode as a Pignite, not the episode for waiting to evolve as a Emboar. [[User:KyleRGiggs|[[User:KyleRGiggs|Ray]][[User talk:KyleRGiggs|mond]]]] 12:20, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
:But we don't know ''when'' it evolved.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:25, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
::The last time we saw Pignite (BW049) it was a Pignite. When we saw it in BW071, it was an Emboar. She never stated when it evolved, therefore it evolved somewhere between BW050 and BW069. Considering its debut was BW013, that makes it somewhere between 22 and 58 episodes which we ''know'' it was a Pignite. It is like this on other pages as well. (See: [[May's Wartortle]]) [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 12:42, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

==Mack==
A [http://www.mangareader.net/458-28418-6/pokemon-adventures/chapter-220.html scan] of Pokémon Adventures says otherwise. {{unsigned|Mikuri}}
:I'm sorry, but that image isn't showing up on my computer, can you explain what the image is or link to another site please? [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 03:46, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
::The images shows Courtney saying that the Three Fires in Team Magma refer to the three Coordinators within the team, so Mack and Tabitha are also Coordinators.--[[User:Mikuri|Mikuri]] 03:55, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
::Try [http://manga.animea.net/pokemon-adventures-chapter-220-page-6.html this] link. --[[User:Mikuri|Mikuri]] 04:02, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
:::Hmmm, I don't think the type of Coordinator they are referring to are the kind that enter contests correct? If that's correct that means you are correct to say that they are coordinators, but the category link you used links to the wrong type of coordinator. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 04:21, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
::::Courtney tries to convince Ruby to join Team Magma telling him that the three admins of the team are Coordinators like him. See the following page. Well, that's how I interpreted. If I'm wrong, I apologize. --[[User:Mikuri|Mikuri]] 04:28, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
:::::I'm honestly conflicted :/ You would probably be better off going to the Head of Manga {{u|Zesty Cactus}} and see what she thinks about it. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 04:46, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
::::::I'll talk to her. Thank you. --[[User:Mikuri|Mikuri]] 04:54, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

== Juanita's Golurk and Fly ==
There has been some disagreement that Juanita's Golurk actually used Fly. While I agree that the mere act of flying is not in and of itself a use of the move Fly, I would like to argue that Juanita's Golurk is a different case, because not only does Golurk fly, it uses flight to launch a direct attack on Damon's Reshiram/Zekrom repeatedly that cannot be recognized as any other move. In addition, just before Golurk attacks Reshiram/Zekrom for the first time, Juanita calls out "Golurk, stop <Reshiram/Zekrom>!" which is an attack order that doesn't actually name an attack, which we've seen before. --[[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] 03:16, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
:Yea, I wasn't really involved with that issue so I'll give you BotD. On the Samurai's talk page I was saying be careful not to assume that actions are moves all of the time. This is one of those cases where it would be fair to assume it was the move fly. However, with less appearent moves we can't be 100% sure. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 15:51, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

== Arceus ==

Is it possible for arceus to learn draco meteor without the draco plate? because mine did.--[[User:Poke1|Poke1]] 16:07, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

== Congratulations! ==

Welcome aboard! <s>officially.</s> So happy to have you on board with us. May not get a chance to talk to you on AIM 'cause of the busy schedule, so here it is. Also, use your new ''tools'' wisely and keep up the good work ;) ♫♪ [[User:Adyniz|'''エイデ''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''ィニズ''']] ♪♫ 17:16, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
:Oh my goodness. All these colors and links~ I'm still having a hard time believing this, thank you and I will do my best! [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 21:58, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
::Congrats on the promotion mate :) [[User:05308|Diamond]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|Lanturn]] [[User talk:05308|CodeName: 05308]] 22:14, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
:::Thanks :) [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 22:30, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
congrats--[[User:Poke1|Poke1]] 00:48, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Freeze Shock (move)

2012-04-15T16:23:03Z

Poke1: /* Possible new Freeze Shock/Ice Burn mechanics with Black/White Kyurem? */

See [[Talk:Ice Burn (move)|here.]] --[[User:Flyingtypefan|~~☆Flyingtypefan☆~~]] ''[[User talk:Flyingtypefan|•Talk•]] [[Duskull (Pokemon)|Spookiness•]]'' 02:40, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
== Move Description ==

"On the second turn, the user hits the target with electrically charged ice. It may leave the target with paralysis." Should some more explicit reference to the need to charge on the first turn be made? I know the move isn't available legally yet but the line doesnt read too well. [[User:Oshawhat?|Oshawhat?]] 11:48, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
:That's the official in-game description of the move, which is what that part of the table is designated for. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 13:05, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

== Speculation ==

I'm assuming that Freeze Shock is going to be the signature move of Black Kyurem and Ice Burn is going to be the signature move of White Kyurem. However, this is just speculation and shouldn't be added to the article. [[User:FrankTheTank000|FrankTheTank000]] 19:56, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

== picture ==

How did you get the picture if freeze shock is not usable in black and white?

== Possible new Freeze Shock/Ice Burn mechanics with Black/White Kyurem? ==

On [[Pokémon Smash]] they showed a video of Black {{p|Kyurem}} using {{m|Freeze Shock}} on {{p|Reshiram}}. Now, I could have sworn I saw it use the move immediately, and then charge on the second turn; Ozy's summary of the episode on PokéJungle concurs with this. I assumed this was a special mechanic unique to the two Kyurem formes and added this to the pages for Freeze Shock and {{m|Ice Burn}}. But in the comments, someone claimed that they indeed charged BEFORE using the move, not after (I have since reverted my edits to both pages). The thing is, I distinctly remember seeing Black Kyurem use Freeze Shock immediately, and at least one other person saw the same thing. Can anyone who recorded the video confirm whether they charged before or after using the moves? - [[User:Radio Rebel|Radio Rebel]] 00:17, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

I think i saw it charge before the move was used--[[User:Poke1|Poke1]] 16:23, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

User talk:Pokemaster97/Archive 3

2012-04-15T16:07:06Z

Poke1: /* Arceus */ new section

Plate

2012-04-15T16:03:22Z

Poke1: /* Trivia */

[[File:Arceus Formes.gif|frame|Animation showing Arceus's forms]]
A '''Plate''' (Japanese: '''プレート''' ''Plate'') is a type of [[held item]] introduced in [[Generation IV]], primarily for use in changing the type and form of {{p|Arceus}} and the type of its [[signature move]], {{m|Judgment}} to the corresponding type of Plate. However, it will also increase the attack power of [[move]]s of the Plate's type used by any Pokémon holding it by 20%. There is a Plate available for every elemental type except {{t|Normal}}, and while there exists a {{type2|???}} Arceus in the Generation IV data, there is no associated ??? Plate, meaning there are 16 Plates in total. In Generation V, the ???-type has been removed from the data altogether.

The 16 Plates are spread far and wide across [[Sinnoh]], and additional ones can also be dug up in [[the Underground]]. The captain of the [[S.S. Aqua]] will also give one away in index number order each day; however the player must have all 16 badges first. In {{game|Black and White|s}}, two of the plates are given to the player by a treasure hunter in a house in {{rt|13|Unova}}. The treasure hunter will mention that he found the plates in the [[Abyssal Ruins]], and indeed the rest of the plates can be found there. What follows is a list of what effect a Plate has when held and where they can be found in Generation IV, besides in the Underground, and in Generation V.

==List of Plates==
{{Item
|name=Draco Plate
|jp=りゅうのプレート
|jpt=Dragon Plate
|gen=IV
|bag=Items
|sell=500
|buyable=no
|effect=Raises the power of {{type2|Dragon}} moves.
|effect2=Makes {{p|Arceus}} a Dragon-type Pokémon and makes {{m|Judgment}} a Dragon-type move.
|descdppt=A stone tablet that boosts the power of Dragon-type moves.
|deschgss=An item to be held by a Pokémon. It is a stone tablet that boosts the power of Dragon-type moves.
|descbw=An item to be held by a Pokémon. It is a stone tablet that boosts the power of Dragon-type moves.
|locdppt=Hidden behind the {{p|Dialga}}/{{p|Palkia}} statue in [[Eterna City]]. [[The Underground]]
|lochgss=Receive from [[S.S. Aqua]] captain.{{tt|*|After obtaining all 16 Gym Badges.}}
|locbw={{rt|13|Unova}}
}}

{{Item
|name=Dread Plate
|jp=こわもてプレート
|jpt=Fearful Favor Plate
|gen=IV
|bag=Items
|sell=500
|buyable=no
|effect=Raises the power of {{type2|Dark}} moves.
|effect2=Makes {{p|Arceus}} a Dark-type Pokémon and makes {{m|Judgment}} a Dark-type move.
|descdppt=A stone tablet that boosts the power of Dark-type moves.
|deschgss=An item to be held by a Pokémon. It is a stone tablet that boosts the power of Dark-type moves.
|descbw=An item to be held by a Pokémon. It is a stone tablet that boosts the power of Dark-type moves.
|locdppt=On the second floor of the [[Old Chateau]], go through the door to the north. The Plate is in a Poké Ball in the left hand room. [[The Underground]]
|lochgss=Receive from [[S.S. Aqua]] captain.{{tt|*|After obtaining all 16 Gym Badges.}}
|locbw=[[Abyssal Ruins]] 1F.
}}

{{Item
|name=Earth Plate
|jp=だいちのプレート
|jpt=Earth Plate
|gen=IV
|bag=Items
|sell=500
|buyable=no
|effect=Raises the power of {{type2|Ground}} moves.
|effect2=Makes {{p|Arceus}} a Ground-type Pokémon and makes {{m|Judgment}} a Ground-type move.
|descdppt=A stone tablet that boosts the power of Ground-type moves.
|deschgss=An item to be held by a Pokémon. It is a stone tablet that boosts the power of Ground-type moves.
|descbw=An item to be held by a Pokémon. It is a stone tablet that boosts the power of Ground-type moves.
|locdppt=Inside [[Oreburgh Gate]], use {{m|Rock Smash}} to go north up the path, then follow around and take the stairs to the basement. {{m|Surf}} to the far left of the cave and use {{m|Strength}} to get to the Poké Ball. [[The Underground]]
|lochgss=Receive from [[S.S. Aqua]] captain.{{tt|*|After obtaining all 16 Gym Badges.}}
|locbw=[[Abyssal Ruins]] 1F.
}}

{{Item
|name=Fist Plate
|jp=こぶしのプレート
|jpt=Fist Plate
|gen=IV
|bag=Items
|sell=500
|buyable=no
|effect=Raises the power of {{type2|Fighting}} moves.
|effect2=Makes {{p|Arceus}} a Fighting-type Pokémon and makes {{m|Judgment}} a Fighting-type move.
|descdppt=A stone tablet that boosts the power of Fighting-type moves.
|deschgss=An item to be held by a Pokémon. It is a stone tablet that boosts the power of Fighting-type moves.
|descbw=An item to be held by a Pokémon. It is a stone tablet that boosts the power of Fighting-type moves.
|locdppt=On {{rt|215|Sinnoh}}, to the right of the twin wooden bridges. Requires {{HM|01|Cut}} to reach. [[The Underground]]
|lochgss=Receive from [[S.S. Aqua]] captain.{{tt|*|After obtaining all 16 Gym Badges.}}
|locbw=[[Abyssal Ruins]] 1F.
}}

{{Item
|name=Flame Plate
|jp=ひのたまプレート
|jpt=Fireball Plate
|gen=IV
|bag=Items
|sell=500
|buyable=no
|effect=Raises the power of {{type2|Fire}} moves.
|effect2=Makes {{p|Arceus}} a Fire-type Pokémon and makes {{m|Judgment}} a Fire-type move.
|descdppt=A stone tablet that boosts the power of Fire-type moves.
|deschgss=An item to be held by a Pokémon. It is a stone tablet that boosts the power of Fire-type moves.
|descbw=An item to be held by a Pokémon. It is a stone tablet that boosts the power of Fire-type moves.
|locdppt=Embedded in the westernmost wall of the largest room in [[Stark Mountain]] on a ledge above [[TM50]]. Received from a {{tc|Hiker}} in [[Oreburgh Mine]] if the player has a [[fateful encounter]] {{p|Arceus}} in their party.{{sup|Pt}} [[The Underground]]
|lochgss=Receive from [[S.S. Aqua]] captain.{{tt|*|After obtaining all 16 Gym Badges.}}
|locbw=[[Abyssal Ruins]] 1F.
}}

{{Item
|name=Icicle Plate
|jp=つららのプレート
|jpt=Icicle Plate
|gen=IV
|bag=Items
|sell=500
|buyable=no
|effect=Raises the power of {{type2|Ice}} moves.
|effect2=Makes {{p|Arceus}} an Ice-type Pokémon and makes {{m|Judgment}} an Ice-type move.
|descdppt=A stone tablet that boosts the power of Ice-type moves.
|deschgss=An item to be held by a Pokémon. It is a stone tablet that boosts the power of Ice-type moves.
|descbw=An item to be held by a Pokémon. It is a stone tablet that boosts the power of Ice-type moves.
|locdppt=On {{rt|217|Sinnoh}}, talk to the man in the house closest to {{HM|08|Rock Climb}} after picking the HM up. [[The Underground]]
|lochgss=Receive from [[S.S. Aqua]] captain.{{tt|*|After obtaining all 16 Gym Badges.}}
|locbw=[[Abyssal Ruins]] 1F.
}}

{{Item
|name=Insect Plate
|jp=たまむしプレート
|jpt={{wp|Buprestidae|Jewel Beetle}} Plate
|gen=IV
|bag=Items
|sell=500
|buyable=no
|effect=Raises the power of {{type2|Bug}} moves.
|effect2=Makes {{p|Arceus}} a Bug-type Pokémon and makes {{m|Judgment}} a Bug-type move.
|descdppt=A stone tablet that boosts the power of Bug-type moves.
|deschgss=An item to be held by a Pokémon. It is a stone tablet that boosts the power of Bug-type moves.
|descbw=An item to be held by a Pokémon. It is a stone tablet that boosts the power of Bug-type moves.
|locdppt=Hidden in the rock wall to the right of the [[Old Chateau]] in [[Eterna Forest]]. Requires {{HM|01|Cut}}. [[The Underground]]
|lochgss=Receive from [[S.S. Aqua]] captain.{{tt|*|After obtaining all 16 Gym Badges.}}
|locbw=[[Abyssal Ruins]] 1F.
}}

{{Item
|name=Iron Plate
|jp=こうてつプレート
|jpt=Steel Plate
|gen=IV
|bag=Items
|sell=500
|buyable=no
|effect=Raises the power of {{type2|Steel}} moves.
|effect2=Makes {{p|Arceus}} a Steel-type Pokémon and makes {{m|Judgment}} a Steel-type move.
|descdppt=A stone tablet that boosts the power of Steel-type moves.
|deschgss=An item to be held by a Pokémon. It is a stone tablet that boosts the power of Steel-type moves.
|descbw=An item to be held by a Pokémon. It is a stone tablet that boosts the power of Steel-type moves.
|locdppt=Hidden in a depression in the far southeastern corner of the third floor of [[Iron Island]]. [[The Underground]]
|lochgss=Receive from [[S.S. Aqua]] captain.{{tt|*|After obtaining all 16 Gym Badges.}}
|locbw=[[Abyssal Ruins]] 1F.
}}

{{Item
|name=Meadow Plate
|jp=みどりのプレート
|jpt=Verdure Plate
|gen=IV
|bag=Items
|sell=500
|buyable=no
|effect=Raises the power of {{type2|Grass}} moves.
|effect2=Makes {{p|Arceus}} a Grass-type Pokémon and makes {{m|Judgment}} a Grass-type move.
|descdppt=A stone tablet that boosts the power of Grass-type moves.
|deschgss=An item to be held by a Pokémon. It is a stone tablet the boosts the power of Grass-type moves.
|descbw=An item to be held by a Pokémon. It is a stone tablet that boosts the power of Grass-type moves.
|locdppt=Hidden in the rock wall on {{rt|210|Sinnoh}}, beneath a bridge, up the eastern-most {{m|waterfall}}. [[The Underground]]
|lochgss=Receive from [[S.S. Aqua]] captain.{{tt|*|After obtaining all 16 Gym Badges.}}
|locbw=[[Abyssal Ruins]] 1F.
}}

{{Item
|name=Mind Plate
|jp=ふしぎのプレート
|jpt=Mystery Plate
|gen=IV
|bag=Items
|sell=500
|buyable=no
|effect=Raises the power of {{type2|Psychic}} moves.
|effect2=Makes {{p|Arceus}} a Psychic-type Pokémon and makes {{m|Judgment}} a Psychic-type move.
|descdppt=A stone tablet that boosts the power of Psychic-type moves.
|deschgss=An item to be held by a Pokémon. It is a stone tablet that boosts the power of Psychic-type moves.
|descbw=An item to be held by a Pokémon. It is a stone tablet that boosts the power of Psychic-type moves.
|locdppt=On the seventh (last) floor of the [[Solaceon Ruins]]. [[The Underground]]
|lochgss=Receive from [[S.S. Aqua]] captain.{{tt|*|After obtaining all 16 Gym Badges.}}
|locbw=[[Abyssal Ruins]] 1F.
}}

{{Item
|name=Sky Plate
|jp=あおぞらプレート
|jpt=Blue Sky Plate
|gen=IV
|bag=Items
|sell=500
|buyable=no
|effect=Raises the power of {{type2|Flying}} moves.
|effect2=Makes {{p|Arceus}} a Flying-type Pokémon and makes {{m|Judgment}} a Flying-type move.
|descdppt=A stone tablet that boosts the power of Flying-type moves.
|deschgss=An item to be held by a Pokémon. It is a stone tablet that boosts the power of Flying-type moves.
|descbw=An item to be held by a Pokémon. It is a stone tablet that boosts the power of Flying-type moves.
|locdppt=At the exit of {{si|Victory Road}}, hidden outside the cave, three tiles south of the southwestern Poké Ball statue. [[The Underground]]
|lochgss=Receive from [[S.S. Aqua]] captain.{{tt|*|After obtaining all 16 Gym Badges.}}
|locbw=[[Abyssal Ruins]] 1F.
}}

{{Item
|name=Splash Plate
|jp=しずくプレート
|jpt=Drop Plate
|gen=IV
|bag=Items
|sell=500
|buyable=no
|effect=Raises the power of {{type2|Water}} moves.
|effect2=Makes {{p|Arceus}} a Water-type Pokémon and makes {{m|Judgment}} a Water-type move.
|descdppt=A stone tablet that boosts the power of Water-type moves.
|deschgss=An item to be held by a Pokémon. It is a stone tablet that boosts the power of Water-type moves.
|descbw=An item to be held by a Pokémon. It is a stone tablet that boosts the power of Water-type moves.
|locdppt=Bottom part of first sandbar on {{rt|220|Sinnoh}}. [[The Underground]]
|lochgss=Receive from [[S.S. Aqua]] captain.{{tt|*|After obtaining all 16 Gym Badges.}}
|locbw={{rt|13|Unova}}
}}

{{Item
|name=Spooky Plate
|jp=もののけプレート
|jpt=Specter Plate
|gen=IV
|bag=Items
|sell=500
|buyable=no
|effect=Raises the power of {{type2|Ghost}} moves.
|effect2=Makes {{p|Arceus}} a Ghost-type Pokémon and makes {{m|Judgment}} a Ghost-type move.
|descdppt=A stone tablet that boosts the power of Ghost-type moves.
|deschgss=An item to be held by a Pokémon. It is a stone tablet that boosts the power of Ghost-type moves.
|descbw=An item to be held by a Pokémon. It is a stone tablet that boosts the power of Ghost-type moves.
|locdppt=Next to one of the stone houses on the eastern side of [[Amity Square]].{{sup|DP}} On one of the plateaus in [[Amity Square]] that can be reached through the warp points in the stone huts.{{sup|Pt}} [[The Underground]]
|lochgss=Receive from [[S.S. Aqua]] captain.{{tt|*|After obtaining all 16 Gym Badges.}}
|locbw=[[Abyssal Ruins]] 1F.
}}

{{Item
|name=Stone Plate
|jp=がんせきプレート
|jpt=Rock Plate
|gen=IV
|bag=Items
|sell=500
|buyable=no
|effect=Raises the power of {{type2|Rock}} moves.
|effect2=Makes {{p|Arceus}} a Rock-type Pokémon and makes {{m|Judgment}} a Rock-type move.
|descdppt=A stone tablet that boosts the power of Rock-type moves.
|deschgss=An item to be held by a Pokémon. It is a stone tablet that boosts the power of Rock-type moves.
|descbw=An item to be held by a Pokémon. It is a stone tablet that boosts the power of Rock-type moves.
|locdppt=Hidden in a rock in the waterfall room inside [[Mt. Coronet]]. Requires {{HM|03|Surf}}, {{HM|08|Rock Climb}}, {{HM|07|Waterfall}}, and in {{v2|Platinum}}, {{HM|04|Strength}}. [[The Underground]]
|lochgss=Receive from [[S.S. Aqua]] captain.{{tt|*|After obtaining all 16 Gym Badges.}}
|locbw=[[Abyssal Ruins]] 1F.
}}

{{Item
|name=Toxic Plate
|jp=もうどくプレート
|jpt=Deadly Poison Plate
|gen=IV
|bag=Items
|sell=500
|buyable=no
|effect=Raises the power of {{type2|Poison}} moves.
|effect2=Makes {{p|Arceus}} a Poison-type Pokémon and makes {{m|Judgment}} a Poison-type move.
|descdppt=A stone tablet that boosts the power of Poison-type moves.
|deschgss=An item to be held by a Pokémon. It is a stone tablet that boosts the power of Poison-type moves.
|descbw=An item to be held by a Pokémon. It is a stone tablet that boosts the power of Poison-type moves.
|locdppt=Hidden in the northeast corner of the [[Great Marsh]]. [[The Underground]]
|lochgss=Receive from [[S.S. Aqua]] captain.{{tt|*|After obtaining all 16 Gym Badges.}}
|locbw=[[Abyssal Ruins]] 1F.
}}

{{Item
|name=Zap Plate
|jp=いかずちプレート
|jpt=Thunder Plate
|gen=IV
|bag=Items
|sell=500
|buyable=no
|effect=Raises the power of {{type2|Electric}} moves.
|effect2=Makes {{p|Arceus}} an Electric-type Pokémon and makes {{m|Judgment}} an Electric-type move.
|descdppt=A stone tablet that boosts the power of Electric-type moves.
|deschgss=An item to be held by a Pokémon. It is a stone tablet that boosts the power of Electric-type moves.
|descbw=An item to be held by a Pokémon. It is a stone tablet that boosts the power of Electric-type moves.
|locdppt=Hidden in front of [[Sunyshore City]]'s [[Vista Lighthouse|lighthouse]]. [[The Underground]]
|lochgss=Held by [[Spiky-eared Pichu]]. Receive from [[S.S. Aqua]] captain.{{tt|*|After obtaining all 16 Gym Badges.}}
|locbw=[[Abyssal Ruins]] 1F.
}}

==Engravings==
Each Plate has a different engraving which reveals part of the myth of the creation of the Pokémon universe. No engraving is tied to a specific Plate; they will appear each one at a time depending on how many Plates the player has found so far, with the ninth Plate found using the same engraving as the first. In Platinum, after talking to the Hiker on the second floor of the Canalave Library, a book on the second floor with the engravings written in it will be left by the Hiker the player met in Oreburgh Mine.
*''"When the {{pkmn|universe}} was created, its [[shard]]s became this Plate."''
*''"The power of defeated giants infuses this Plate."''
*''"Two beings of {{p|Dialga|time}} and {{p|Palkia|space}} set free from the {{p|Arceus|Original One}}."''
*''"[[Lake trio|Three beings]] were born to bind {{p|Dialga|time}} and {{p|Palkia|space}}."''
*''"[[creation trio|Two]] make matter and [[Lake guardians|three]] make spirit, shaping the {{pkmn|world}}."''
*''"The {{p|Arceus|Original One}} breathed alone before the {{pkmn|universe}} came."''
*''"The powers of Plates are [[held item|shared among Pokémon]]."''
*''"The rightful bearer of a Plate {{a|Multitype|draws from}} the Plate it holds."''

==Appearance==
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|- align="center"
| width="160px" style="background: #{{dragon color}}; {{roundytop|5px}}" | [[File:Mine Draco Plate.png|120px]]
| width="160px" style="background: #{{dark color}}; {{roundytop|5px}}" | [[File:Mine Dread Plate.png|120px]]
| width="160px" style="background: #{{ground color}}; {{roundytop|5px}}" | [[File:Mine Earth Plate.png|120px]]
| width="160px" style="background: #{{fighting color}}; {{roundytop|5px}}" | [[File:Mine Fist Plate.png|120px]]
|- align="center"
| style="background: #{{dragon color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}" | {{color|{{dragon color dark}}|Draco Plate}}
| style="background: #{{dark color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}" | {{color|{{dark color dark}}|Dread Plate}}
| style="background: #{{ground color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}" | {{color|{{ground color dark}}|Earth Plate}}
| style="background: #{{fighting color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}" | {{color|{{fighting color dark}}|Fist Plate}}
|- align="center"
| width="160px" style="background: #{{fire color}}; {{roundytop|5px}}" | [[File:Mine Flame Plate.png|120px]]
| width="160px" style="background: #{{ice color}}; {{roundytop|5px}}" | [[File:Mine Icicle Plate.png|120px]]
| width="160px" style="background: #{{bug color}}; {{roundytop|5px}}" | [[File:Mine Insect Plate.png|120px]]
| width="160px" style="background: #{{steel color}}; {{roundytop|5px}}" | [[File:Mine Iron Plate.png|120px]]
|- align="center"
| style="background: #{{fire color light}}; -{{roundybottom|5px}}" | {{color|{{fire color dark}}|Flame Plate}}
| style="background: #{{ice color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}" | {{color|{{ice color dark}}|Icicle Plate}}
| style="background: #{{bug color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}" | {{color|{{bug color dark}}|Insect Plate}}
| style="background: #{{steel color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}" | {{color|{{steel color dark}}|Iron Plate}}
|- align="center"
| width="160px" style="background: #{{grass color}}; {{roundytop|5px}}" | [[File:Mine Meadow Plate.png|120px]]
| width="160px" style="background: #{{psychic color}}; {{roundytop|5px}}" | [[File:Mine Mind Plate.png|120px]]
| width="160px" style="background: #{{flying color}}; {{roundytop|5px}}" | [[File:Mine Sky Plate.png|120px]]
| width="160px" style="background: #{{water color}}; {{roundytop|5px}}" | [[File:Mine Splash Plate.png|120px]]
|- align="center"
| style="background: #{{grass color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}" | {{color|{{grass color dark}}|Meadow Plate}}
| style="background: #{{psychic color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}" | {{color|{{psychic color dark}}|Mind Plate}}
| style="background: #{{flying color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}" | {{color|{{flying color dark}}|Sky Plate}}
| style="background: #{{water color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}" | {{color|{{water color dark}}|Splash Plate}}
|- align="center"
| width="160px" style="background: #{{ghost color}}; {{roundytop|5px}}" | [[File:Mine Spooky Plate.png|120px]]
| width="160px" style="background: #{{rock color}}; {{roundytop|5px}}" | [[File:Mine Stone Plate.png|120px]]
| width="160px" style="background: #{{poison color}}; {{roundytop|5px}}" | [[File:Mine Toxic Plate.png|120px]]
| width="160px" style="background: #{{electric color}}; {{roundytop|5px}}" | [[File:Mine Zap Plate.png|120px]]
|- align="center"
| style="background: #{{ghost color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}" | {{color|{{ghost color dark}}|Spooky Plate}}
| style="background: #{{rock color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}" | {{color|{{rock color dark}}|Stone Plate}}
| style="background: #{{poison color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}" | {{color|{{poison color dark}}|Toxic Plate}}
| style="background: #{{electric color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}" | {{color|{{electric color dark}}|Zap Plate}}
|}{{-}}

==In the anime==
Plates first appeared in ''[[DP060|Journey to the Unown!]]'', where [[Saturn]] and two {{tc|Galactic Grunt}}s placed them in a room of the [[Solaceon Ruins]] to obtain the [[Spear Key]] and awaken the {{p|Unown}} there. These Plates were specifically the Draco Plate, Iron Plate, and Splash Plate, which power up the three types of {{p|Palkia}} and {{p|Dialga}} ({{t|Dragon}}, {{t|Steel}}, and {{t|Water}}) combined.

The Plates appeared again in ''[[M12|Arceus and the Jewel of Life]]'', where {{mov|Arceus|Arceus|12}} used them to change its type, and almost died when it lost all of the Plates after having destroyed a meteor. [[Damos]] found one of these lost Plates and returned it to Arceus, giving it the strength to recall the other 15 plates. That act earned its trust and prompted it to detach the Earth Plate, Splash Plate, Meadow Plate, Zap Plate, and Draco Plate in the form of the [[Jewel of Life]] so Damos could make [[Michina Town]] flourish.
<gallery>
File:Arceus Plates anime.png|Five of Arceus's Plates
File:ThreePlates.png|Three Plates placed in the Solaceon Ruins
File:Arceus Plates.png|Arceus using its Plates
</gallery>

==In the manga==
[[File:Arceus Plates Adventures.png|thumb|right|150px|Several Plates]]
===Pokémon Adventures===
The plates first appeared in the {{chap|HeartGold & SoulSilver}}. The plates were used by [[Team Rocket]] in order to summon {{p|Arceus}}.

==Trivia==
* While the presence of hidden Plates can be determined with the [[Pokétch]] application {{DL|Pokétch|Dowsing Machine}}, their exact location is difficult to ascertain. The Plate's exact location must be touched on the Dowsing Machine in order for it to be revealed.
* Plates may have some relation to [[shard]]s, which are described as pieces of ancient tools. Their underground sprites likewise indicate that they are merely broken parts of plates.
* Although there is not a plate to change Arceus's type to ???-type, in the "After You Complete Diamond and Pearl" guide, in the Underground section, in the list of plates it includes "Magical Plate". The reason for this is unknown, although it is possible there was originally going to be such a plate.
* While all plates will rearrange Arceus's [[Pokéathlon]] stats, the Draco Plate will boost Arceus's total Pokéathlon stats by 1.

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Aspertia City

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{{upcoming notice}}
{{Town infobox
|name=Hiougi City
|jpname=ヒオウギシティ
|jptrans=Hiougi City
|image=Hiougi City CoroCoro May 2012.png
|size=256
|region=Unova
|generation=5
|regionnorth=Unova
|colordark=444
|colormed=838383
|colorlight=C3C3C3
}}
(Japanese: '''ヒオウギシティ''' ''Hiougi City'') is a small city situated in the southwestern [[Unova]] and serves as the hometown of the main protagonists in {{game|Black and White|s 2|Pokémon Black 2 and White 2}}. The settlement exists on Unova's western strip of land, and is surrounded by forest. The entrance to the city is through an unnamed route to the north.

Hiougi City contains some prominent areas of interest such as the Trainers' School, a lookout, and a [[Pokémon Center]]. It is a newly developed area containing modern buildings and houses. The city is respectively larger than other [[hometown]]s within the [[version|main series games]] and is the first to contain a Pokémon Center and a concreted path.

==Places of interest==
===Player's house===
{{main|Bedroom}}
The player's house lies in southeastern Hiougi City and is where the player lives before beginning their journey. The player's house has a small flower garden and is situated by a body of water.

===Trainers' School===
A Trainers' School, situated just west of the Pokémon Center, is a school where students and {{pkmn|Trainer}}s can learn more about {{OBP|Pokémon|species}}.

===Lookout===
The lookout is a platform built onto a hill at the cities north-most point. There are stairs, which ascend to an observation deck hosting a green lamppost. The lookout overlooks a panoramic view of a scenic landscape featuring trees and a lake in the foreground and a mountain range in the background.

==Gallery==
<gallery>
File:B2W2 Hiougi City House.png|The player's house with a garden
File:B2W2 Hiougi City Center.png|The Trainers' School and a Pokémon Center
File:B2W2 Hiougi City Lookout.png|A lookout overlooking a scenic landscape north of the city
</gallery>

==Trivia==
*Hiougi City is the only city to serve as a [[hometown]] to the [[player character]] in the [[version|main series]] {{pkmn|games|video games}}. All other main series games start out in towns.
*This is the first [[hometown]] to have a trainer's school and a pokemon center.

==Name origin==
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|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Japanese
| ヒオウギシティン ''Hiougi City''
| From 檜扇紋 ''hiougimon'', a pattern based on a folding fan made made from a hinoki cypress.
|}
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==Formes==
It says "Two new formes" but it does not say "of Kyurem." [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]]) 02:22, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:We won't know if they are formes of Kyurem until a source confirms it. Right now, it's all speculation.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 02:26, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
::While it is all speculation they look more like alternate forms of Reshiram and Zekrom instead. [[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen Fennec]] 02:34, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:::[https://twitter.com/#!/Junichi_Masuda/status/173576515219505153 Stated Kyurem here.] But there's debate on whether they're forms or separate Pokémon. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 02:36, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
::::Ah, nice to know then. Wonder if they'll have something to do with Reshiram and Zekrom at all, also looking forward to a bit of change in the overall story plot. [[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen Fennec]] 02:39, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:::::Well, from what it looks like, it seems that it is combining Zekrom/Reshiram with Kyurem. I wonder how they will do that? Item? Special shrine? But about what Jo said above, they will be forms, as it says in [[Kyurem]]s trivia ''"There is placeholder data for an alternate form of Kyurem in Pokémon Black and White".'' --[[User:Rsrdaman|'''×Rsr''']][[User_Talk:Rsrdaman|'''daman×''']] 02:59, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
::::::Actually, if you watch the trailer for the new movie coming out on the Japanese website, it shows Zekrom and Reshiram's powers going into Kyurem. This further confirms that these are Kyurem's alternate formes, and not Zekrom's our Reshiram's. [[User:Mikk317|Mikk317]] 05:10, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
I saw the covers of the games,and the white and black kyurem's on the covers look completely different then normal white kyurem and black kyurem.What gives?--[[User:Supermon|Supermon]] 12:38, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
:There's also two "formes" for Reshiram and Zekrom (lit up and not lit up). They are apparently some "mode" (Formes with forms?). We don't really know much about them yet. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:44, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

thanks. i thought that Kyurem had 5 formes or something!--[[User:Supermon|Supermon]] 11:30, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

reshiram and zekrom don't have two forms that is their animation.--[[User:Poke1|Poke1]] 22:48, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

And in the commercial it shows how kyurem changes from white kyurem without the tubes on the back to the white kyurem on the boxart.--[[User:Poke1|Poke1]] 23:58, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

== Names of mascots ==

Junichi Masuda has stated on Twitter that the names of the new forms are '''White Kyurem''' and '''Black Kyurem'''. [[User:ZMT123|ZMT123]] 03:32, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

==Interwiki==
Page is blocked, could you add an interwiki link to [[:it:Pokémon Nero e Bianco 2]]?--[[User:Qwilava|Qwilava]] 08:37, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:Added. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 08:38, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

==US website==
Doesn't appear to have been added. [http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-video-games/pokemon-black-version-2-and-pokemon-white-version-2/ It's not much, but it's official.] [[User:GoldenCelebi|GoldenCelebi]] 10:57, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:I am reluctant to add it. It is just a sub-section, unlike [http://www.pokemonblackwhite.com/ this one]. ♫♪ [[User:Adyniz|'''エイデ''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''ィニズ''']] ♪♫ 11:21, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

== Color's for representation. ==

To avoid confusion with Black and White I think the 2 colors that represent this game on Wiki pages should be a blue and red to match the color on each logo and background for the official site. What do you guys think? [[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 12:41, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:What about if it gets confused instead with the Generation I games Red and Blue? Just pointing out... [[User:Haxorus|'''Hax''']][[User talk:Haxorus|'''or''']][[Special:MyContributions|'''us''']] 12:45, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
::All I have to say is Ruby and Sapphire. Besides they will be a different shade just like Ruby and Sapphire where and they will also be reversed, being Blue and Red instead of Red and Blue.[[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 12:55, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:::Thank you to the person who changed the color.[[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 13:14, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
::::Wait, who changed it back and why?[[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 13:53, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

== Mascots reversed? ==

I just noticed something on [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/4/46/Kyurem_forms.png the new release]. The Kyurem/Zekrom and Kyurem/Reshiram are reversed. On the original B/W, Zekrom was on the white side, and Reshiram on the black side. Its seems its reversed now.--[[User:Rsrdaman|'''×Rsr''']][[User_Talk:Rsrdaman|'''daman×''']] 15:28, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:Yes they are, but this isn't the right place for that discussion. Please go to the forums with comments/questions of this nature. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 15:44, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

== generation ==

why is it under generation v? is there any offical source to this (even though we know it might be true) -[[User:Pokeant|Pokeant]] 16:37, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

We don't really know if it is Gen V, but the fact that it uses forms of a Gen V Pokemon as its mascot make if all but confirmed. The way it looks, at least for now, is that they decided to ditch the 3rd game idea for this Gen and instead do two full sequels to BW. If they say these are a new gen or we see completely new Pokemon then we can start talking about this being Gen VI, but as it stands I think we should just leave it be.[[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 16:41, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

== Trying to clear up some unconfirmed rumors ==

I suggest a paragraph be added to the article stating something like "There is no confirmation on whether these games are a [[third version]] or not." [[User:Bwburke94|Bwburke94]] 20:26, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

The article doesn't even insinuate that, it says out right that they are second paired versions. 2 games can't be a 3rd version.[[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 22:43, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

:What he trying to mean is, most people think that these games are the '"double" 3rd versions, like Platinum, Emerald and Crystal. But if that's so, you mean these are just the continued part of original B&W? There will be a real "third" version? That's almost impossible. {{unsigned|Acellutor}}

== Classification ==

Well,looks like it can have'''3''' types-Dragon+ice+fire\electric.And can it be a new duo or trio with Kyurem or Part of the tao trio?--Shravs [[User talk:Littleroot leader shravan(ability leader)|(New Bark Gym)]] 05:09, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
:From sources, Kyurem has two new forms, each resemblin to Zekrom and/or Reshiram. So it would still be within the Tao trio. But 3 types is OP, and awkward considering the type advantages/disadvantages. I would say Kyurem would be Ice/Dragon but retaining the power of it's other form. My speculation point, but I would doubt 3 types. [[User:Chocos0|Chocos0]] 06:06, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

==European Autumn 2012 Release Confirmed==
Could someone with the powers to edit this page please add that Nintendo UK have confirmed an Autumn 2012 release for this pair? Source: http://www.officialnintendomagazine.co.uk/35866/pokemon-black-and-white-2-uk-release-date-is-autumn-2012/ [[User:Ryu Shoji|Ryu Shoji]], 10:56, 27 February, 2012 (BST)
:Done. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:14, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

== North America release confirmed: Fall 2012 ==

The American release window has been confirmed - see this article: http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2012/02/north_america_gets_pokemon_black_and_white_2_this_fall

I'm unable to add it to the article myself, so can someone who is able to edit it add the date?
[[User:NFreak007|NFreak007]] 14:55, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
:I just found out about this myself and updated [[n:Pokémon Black and White 2 coming to North America and Europe this autumn|the Bulbanews article]]. This page is now fixed too. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 15:01, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

== Redirect sentence regarding the BW002 episode ==

Greetings, I respectfully disagree with the unitalicising of the English title portion, "Enter Iris and Axew". On this site, all episode titles are italicised when put against regular unitalicised text, and the opposite should be done in this case as in other examples elsewhere in life. [[User:Haxorus|'''Hax''']][[User talk:Haxorus|'''or''']][[Special:MyContributions|'''us''']] 15:51, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
:It is already italicized, which is what is used for titles. When it is surrounded by italicized text, it doesn't need to become un-italicized. This is how everything else does it anyway. It is more important to have the title in italics rather than in contrast to regular text. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 03:23, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

== 3ds or ds ==

will this be on 3ds or ds i need to know {{unsigned|Pokefanboy}}

:It'll be on the [[Nintendo DS]], but will be compatible with the [[Nintendo 3DS]]. Yes, the press release was confusing. By the way, it's a good idea to sign your posts with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>, which is converted into an automatic link to your userpage. {{unsigned|GoldenCelebi}}
:That article mentions this. Don't mean to sound rude, but this is exactly what this site is for. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 18:05, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

== English artwork ==
Possible to use these artworks? [http://fronttowardsgamer.com/2012/02/27/pokemon-black-and-white-2-announced/ Black & White 2] -- [[User:Chickensdoorknob|ℂℏɨ₡ƙ℮ᵰᵴ∂ⱺ☮яϰŊøɓ]] 23:53, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
:Those look fanmade. They look nothing like the leaked Japanese boxes and they always use the same. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 00:02, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
::Those aren't fanmade, actually- they're on [http://www.play-asia.com/Pokemon_White_Version_2/paOS-13-71-ba-49-en-70-4lbh.html Playasia] and other pre-order sites. They're only placeholders, though. Official placeholders, but placeholders nonetheless. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] 15:04, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
:::Look at them, they were made in MSPaint. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 15:08, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

== Two official artworks? ==

How come Black Kyurem and White Kyurem have two official artworks? I'm not saying it's a mistake or even a lie, you can easily check that it's true by watching the Flash intro animation of the Japanese website. But that's the issue here: why are there two different yet official artworks for both of Kyurem's new Formes? [[User:Pokemon lover|Sato]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|Mew]] 17:33, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
:There's also two artworks for Reshiram and Zekrom (lit up and not lit up). They are apparently some "mode" (Formes with forms?). We don't really know much about them yet. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:36, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

== Trivia? ==

Would it be relevant and/or noteworthy to add that these games mark the second time the main series Pokémon games have the number 2 in their names, with the first time being the name initially announced for the original Gold and Silver ('''{{tt|ポケットモンスター２金・銀|Poketto Monsutā 2: Kin Gin}}''' ''Pocket Monsters 2: Gold and Silver'')? Even though the 2 was eventually dropped for Gold and Silver, it was still an official yet temporary name. [[User:Pokemon lover|Sato]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|Mew]] 17:49, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
:I'm totally for this. Something like: "These games are the first games in the main series to be released with a "2" in their name, though the Japanese versions of G/S were intended to have tis number in their name but this was dropped before release" ?? As long as there's a nod to the almost-Pkmn 2: G/S thing I think it's a great idea! [[User:Oshawhat?|Oshawhat?]] 09:14, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

== Parameter on the Japanese website URL ==

The URL for the Japanese website does not need the '''?a001=msign''' parameter. Please remove it. [[User:Pokemon lover|Sato]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|Mew]] 22:25, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

== Second set of direct sequels? ==

Aren't Black 2 and White 2 the second set of direct sequels in the main series? Gold and Silver are direct sequels to Red and Green (likewise, HeartGold and SoulSilver are direct sequels to FireRed and LeafGreen). The only difference is that they're from separate generations, since for all we know, Black 2 and White 2 are Generation V games like Black and White. If so, shouldn't this be mentioned in the article? [[User:Pokemon lover|Sato]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|Mew]] 22:31, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
:Considering that it hasn't even really been confirmed that these are sequels, I'd say no. Wait until we know for sure at least. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] 00:11, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
::Don't worry, I'll wait. I can't edit the article anyway. I was just pointing out this so it can be taken in consideration when we have full details about the games. [[User:Pokemon lover|Sato]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|Mew]] 13:56, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

==No info?==

Ummmm... The games are available for preorder. Shouldn't there be info on the storyline and stuff? it's-a me, [[User:Slowbro|anonymous]]
:One would think there would be more info by now, but the reason is simply because no more info has been released. When more info is released it will be added to the article. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 22:50, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
::We will be getting lots of info next [[Pokémon Smash!]] (they said they would be revealing B2W2 info on that episode). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:14, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

==Beta==

This could turn into beta. Any official source confirming that people are making this game? The above [[Special:Contributions/Wildgoose|comment]] is [[User talk: Wildgoose|supported]] by [[User:Wildgoose|Wildgoose]]. 00:57, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
:Go to the article and scroll to the bottom. There is a list of sources there. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 01:09, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

== Australian Release Date ==

In the infobox, it lists the Australian release as Spring 2012. At first this really confused me as I thought only Japan got it this Spring. Because of the different seasons in the Northern and Southern hemisphere, and because a lot of Bulbapedia's users come from the Northern Hemisphere, could we add a tooltip to make it {{tt|Spring 2012|Northern Hemisphere Fall/Autumn}}. I think this would help a lot of people who came to the site. [[User:MajesticRayquaza|''Majestic'']][[User talk:MajesticRayquaza|'''Rayquaza''']] 09:08, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
:I don't think so. The seasons will become irrelevant once we get an actual date, and the only people who should really be concerned with the release date are the people it applies to (i.e. Oceanians.) Plus it might seem unfair. If we put a note for the Northerners that South Spring = North Autumn, then we should do the same for Southerners that North Autumn = South Spring. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 09:16, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

== Amazon release date ==

Not sure if this means anything but I just saw that Amazon (through the official Nintendo seller) has the two versions up for pre-order with a release date of December 31, 2012 (I'm not sure if that's their generic date for an unknown release or the actual date though). [[User:OnixPachirisu|OnixPachirisu]] 18:52, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
:It's just a placeholder so they can take pre-orders. Nintendo already announced a fall (Sept-Nov) release. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 18:57, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

== More Release Date info ==

Per Play-Asia, the Japanese Version's release date is June 23rd, and the US release will be in October: http://www.play-asia.com/paOScore/19-71-8s-49-en-15-Pokemon-43-8s-18-2.html

[[User:Luigi-San|Luigi-San]] 03:09, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
:Well the Japanese release date is true. October does fit for the US, though is Play-asia a good source for information on the US release date? In any case, we'll probably find out about the US release date in a few months. Maybe E3? [[User:Torpoleon|Torpoleon]] 17:38, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
::It's been known for like [https://twitter.com/#!/bulbanews/status/179568320293511168 a month now]. Play-Asia is a decent source but I would still prefer to wait for an official source to confirm it, just for precautionary measures. ♫♪ [[User:Adyniz|'''エイデ''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''ィニズ''']] ♪♫ 17:46, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

== Update ==
Page needs to be updated with new Coro Coro information. [[User:Dragonace|Dragonace]] 06:58, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
:Not yet.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 07:24, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

== Ice cover ==

I don't think the article should say that Unova is engulfed in ice because it says in the Bulbanews article that it is unconfirmed whether that is actually part of the region or it is just there to cover up areas that haven't been revealed yet. [[User:PkmnChmp5|PkmnChmp5]] 23:38, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
:I agree too. There seems to be a confusion. [[User:Han Ji-Wan|Han Ji-Wan]] 23:47, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
From a talk page it says that CoroCoro confirmed the ice is only to cover upcoming stuff--[[User:Poke1|Poke1]] 17:12, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
:::According to {{u|Umeko}}'s Nihongo-fu: ''What Corocoro says in reference to the ice is essentially "What in the world is with the map freezing over? Has something strange happened?!"'' [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 17:26, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

what is a Umeko's Nihongo-fu?--[[User:Poke1|Poke1]] 20:59, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

== Towns ==

I am 99.9% certain that there are 3 towns in Southwest Unova, not 2. [[User:Han Ji-Wan|Han Ji-Wan]] 03:15, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

It says at least 2 towns.--[[User:Poke1|Poke1]] 20:58, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

I see three towns but the one below Driftveil City could also be something similar to Cold Storage. [[User:Ariano|Ariano]] 08:19, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

=="2"==
I think that Black ＆ White 2 is a reference to this version taking place 2 years after Black ＆ White. [[User:Ethan12|Ethan12]] 14:18, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

== Images ==

I don't know if I'm doing this right, but... maybe these images can be used in the article?

<gallery>
File:BlackWhite2-SC1.png|The theater?
File:BlackWhite2-SC2.png|The male player character and the rival's VS sprites
File:BlackWhite2-SC3.png|The player character meeting the rival
File:BlackWhite2-SC4.png|Akuroma...
File:BlackWhite2-SC5.png|The player meets Akuroma in Castelia
File:BlackWhite2-SC6.png|The player meets Shizui
File:BlackWhite2-SC7.png|The player and Akuroma in an unknown location
File:BlackWhite2-SC8.png|Homika's gym
File:BlackWhite2-SC9.png|Possibly outside Shizui's gym
File:BlackWhite2-SC10.png|The player character, the rival and Shizui in a beach, near to the entrance of a cave
</gallery>

--[[User:PenblooeR|PenblooeR]] 19:56, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

== Starters ==

Are the starters for black and white 2 tepig oshawott and snivy because pokemon smash shows it.--[[User:Poke1|Poke1]] 01:59, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

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== Eevee brothers ==

Mikey is actually an eevee brother because at the end of the episode one of them say to him they are truely the eevee brothers. {{unsigned|Yoster10}}
:I know. But he also has his own page [[Mikey|here]] while his brothers only share a [[Eevee brothers|collective page]]. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 23:09, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
Ok then fair enough, but dont you think he should be on the page. {{unsigned|Yoster10}}
:Mikey is mentioned on the page, but it also links to his main article. It's like when a Pokémon has an article. We link to their article, not to their table on their trainer's page. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 23:21, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
This is a bit of a wierd question and you will probably say no but do you have any legendaries you are willing to trade for non-legendaries because on monday i am getting the final Pokémon i need to obtain all non-legendaries so i need just 8 legendaries left which are: [[Mew]], [[Celebi]], [[Jirachi]], [[Deoxys]], [[Darkrai]], [[Keldeo]], [[Meloetta]] and [[Genesect]]. {{unsigned|Yoster10}}
:I don't own a Keldeo, Meloette, or Genesect, and I'm not interested in trading any of my others. Plus I've had issues with wi-fi lately. Sorry. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 01:21, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
It's ok i was just wondering. [[User:Yoster10|Yoster10]] 13:11, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

== Orange Islands Who's That Pokemon? ==
Do you also need me to obtain the images for the English Who's That Pokemon? from the Orange Islands saga? Since I also have that whole box set as well. I am almost done with the Pokemon Master Quest, since I am going to work on the second box set today. --[[User:Lady Ariel|Lady Ariel]] 17:59, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
:Sure, that'd be fine. [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=File:WTP_EP026.png&action=edit Just be sure to use this for the summary] when you upload (and of course change everything accordingly). Thanks again for all your help. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 18:05, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

== User Page ==

On your user page it shows Pokémon in circles at the top how could i do that please if it is ok for me to do. [[User:Yoster10|Yoster10]] 18:33, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
:You can use it as a base, but try to add your own unique twist to it. Here's a base code with nothing in it:

<pre>{| width="64px" height="64px" align="center" style="{{roundy|80px}}; border: 5px solid #000000; background: #FFFFFF;"
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[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 18:39, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Cheers. [[User:Yoster10|Yoster10]] 18:42, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
I tried to put in a picture and i put down smaller sizes but when i added the picture this happened.

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Do you know how i can make it smaller and take off the rectangles at the bottom and top. [[User:Yoster10|Yoster10]] 19:14, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
:Those rectangles are your border. I've made the image smaller for you. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 19:26, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
What about the extra space at the bottom can that be taken off by any chance. [[User:Yoster10|Yoster10]] 19:34, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
:Did you only want one circle? I was under the impression you wanted the whole circle with four Pokémon. In that case, I've edited the code accordingly. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 19:40, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for that you are a big help. [[User:Yoster10|Yoster10]] 19:45, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

== Watchlist. ==

When i go onto my watchlist i see numbers such as (+249) and (-59), what does this mean? [[User:Yoster10|Yoster10]] 21:19, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
:That's the number of {{wp|Byte|bytes}} have been added/removed in the edit. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 21:21, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
Ok, thank you. [[User:Yoster10|Yoster10]] 21:22, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

== Whoops ==

I somehow managed to put a welcome template on a {{u|Rozi|user's page}} instead of their talk page. Since you're an admin, would you mind fixing it for me? --[[User:Darth Zekrom|'''Darth''']] [[User talk:Darth Zekrom|'''Zekrom''']] 02:03, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
:All fixed. Have a nice evening.[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 02:45, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

== Template: MftE ==

Just a minor thing: Trom didn't change his Haunter to a Winter Sawsbuck in the permitted editors list on the page...--[[User:SandmanDP|SandmanDP]] 02:34, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
:That's because he only did it so it'd match the winter-themed main page back during December. He's still represented by a Haunter. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 02:37, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
::Oops, my mistake. I forgot how long it's been since it was updated...--[[User:SandmanDP|SandmanDP]] 02:45, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

== Spellcheck ==

Just letting you know, because of my less than good spelling, I've given others permission to fix them [[User:05308|Diamond]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|Lanturn]] [[User talk:05308|CodeName: 05308]] 09:37, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

== Page. ==

There was no content on the page because i was creating it, could you please undo your deletion please. if you cannot i will just recreate it and add the content. [[User:Yoster10|Yoster10]] 19:07, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

Do not threaten an administrator. By the way, the page was previously here [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Mini-Dit&diff=prev&oldid=534358] but was redirected over three years ago--[[User:SandmanDP|SandmanDP]] 19:11, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
:@Yoster: I won't restore it, and if you make it again, I will protect it from creation. If you look at [[Duplica]]'s page, we can see that Mini-Dit barely has any content in its table. I think that's a tell-tale sign that it's simply not notable enough for its own page. The next time you start an article, give it more substance. Pages with just the infobox and opening sentence will be deleted.
:@Sandman: Please don't butt into a conversation you're not a part of, or respond for me. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 19:14, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
::Other users do it all the time on behalf of the intended user. I was only trying to help. . PS you may wanna protect this too[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Mini-Dit&redirect=no]--[[User:SandmanDP|SandmanDP]] 19:18, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
I was not being threatening, if you are reffering to where i said 'i will just recreate it and add the content.' i meant that if you are unable to undo the deletion then i would not mind recreating. If i was being threatening then i would of said "if you do not undo your deletion then i will recreate it". I looked at that link and what i already done (including what you did not see) looked better so i suggest that you allow me to be able to do mine instead of that please.[[User:Yoster10|Yoster10]] 19:19, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
:It was still said threateningly. Just because you meant it that way doesn't mean the original connotation changed back to your intention--[[User:SandmanDP|SandmanDP]] 19:24, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
Ok then i phrased it wrong, but that does not mean i am threatening him. [[User:Yoster10|Yoster10]] 19:26, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
:@Sandman: That's the user's decision, but if it's on a staff member's page, leave it to the staff member to respond.
:@Yoster10: When users use all capital letters, it is seen as shouting, and in turn makes it sound rude. I'll leave it to the {{u|Kenji-girl|anime head}} to decide if it's notable or not. But considering it doesn't meet the {{bp|Notability requirements/Anime Pokémon|notablility requirements}}, I doubt it will be made into a page. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 19:29, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
::Mini-Dit actually had a page at one point, but it was deemed unnotable and redirected in November 2008. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[Special:Contributions/MAGNEDETH|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 19:32, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
I did not use all capital letters anywhere, i only use capital letters when i am starting a new sentence or writing a name or any other reason because that is proper-English-grammer.{{unsigned|Yoster10}}
:While that may be true, you basically said "If you don't do what I want I will defy you using alternative methods no matter what you say". That's pretty threatening--[[User:SandmanDP|SandmanDP]] 19:55, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
::@Yoster10: [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jo_The_Marten&diff=prev&oldid=1586091 Case in point.]
::@Sandman: Sandman, please, this is my talk page. I would really appreciate it if you'd leave the conversation. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 20:01, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
I never said that in any sort, what i basically said was "if you cannot undo it then i do not mind recreating it." Please just look at what i said carefully because i think you and Jo The Marten have looked at what i said in the wrong way and jumped to conclusion. [[User:Yoster10|Yoster10]] 20:01, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
:Since you're now in a state of infuriating denial, I will follow Jo's orders and leave this to her--[[User:SandmanDP|SandmanDP]] 20:05, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
@Jo The Marten i looked at the link you put and i do not recall putting that in capital letters, if i did then that means i accentually done that because usually when i type the letter 'a' i accentually click the 'Cap Lock' button. [[User:Yoster10|Yoster10]] 20:07, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

@SandmanDP i am not in denial i am just stubborn. [[User:Yoster10|Yoster10]] 20:09, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
:Fair enough. You changed it, so it seemed you were aware of it at the time. But yeah, it comes down to: Mini-Dit isn't getting a page. Next time, check the notability requirements, and if you're still not sure, ask Kenji-girl. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 20:11, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
Ok then i shall end it then, i think i was drawing a blank then because i really do not remember doing capitals but seeing you have the evidence i will leave you alone then. Sorry for the trouble i have caused you. [[User:Yoster10|Yoster10]] 20:13, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

== General Pokemon B/W Question ==
Do Pokemon B/W games, or any other Pokemon games reset on their own once you have a certain number of hours on a game? I've heard that the maximum time that can be set in a saved file is 999:57. What happens when my game reaches that - does the time just reset, or will my saved game delete itself? [[User:Judgement|Judgement]] 01:43, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
:Nope. A few of my games have reached 999:59 and the time just stops. But it doesn't affect the gameplay at all.[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 02:04, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
Thank you [[User:Judgement|Judgement]] 20:36, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

==i'm confused==
Hi, I just made my Bulbapedia account, and I went to my homepage and it says you deleted my account. Could you tell me if you did and if so, why?
[[User:Chandelure1166|Carson]] 07:28, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
:I didn't delete your account. {{u|Crystal Talian}} accidentally put a welcome template on your userpage instead of your talkpage, and so I deleted your userpage after she fixed her mistake. You should still be able to create your page once you've done some work around the site, so it's not a big deal. You're not in any trouble or anything. Also, your signature should reflect your username in some way so people can immediately tell who they're talking to. For more info see the {{bp|Signature policy}}. Have a nice day. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 07:33, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
:Okay thanks!
[[User:Chandelure1166|Chandelure1166]] 08:35, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

== Curiosity Question ==

Hello. I wan to ask something. Can a regular user (like me) greet a "newcomer"? (sorry I forgot the correct term) If I can, may I?

P.S. if I posted it in the "wrong place", I'll give my apologies (I'm not used with "sophisticated" talkpages like yours :) I say its cool. :) )

--[[User:Harv13|This is Harv13]] 10:34, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
:We prefer that people who welcome new users are constructive users that have been around for a while, since it's likely the new user will go to whoever welcomed them for help and advice. But you fit that category well enough, so I don't see any reason why you can't welcome new users. Go right ahead. Just put <nowiki>{{subst:welcome}}</nowiki> on a new user's talk, or click on it in the toolbar below, and it'll come up with the welcome message. Though just so it's put on the table, if there's someone that registered a while ago, and they haven't been welcomed, make sure they weren't blocked for some reason. We don't welcome users that are blocked indefinitely. Also, I'll answer just about any general question to the best of my abilities, as will the rest of the admins (Junior, regular, senior). There's no need to feel intimidated. With all that in mind, have fun welcoming the new users. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 10:43, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

:: Ah, I see. Thanks for the answer. I'll try to do it once. (when there's one to welcome to. But maybe a little bit later.)
--[[User:Harv13|This is Harv13]] 10:49, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

== Black Tyranitar ==

Can I ask why you [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Black_Tyranitar&diff=1592129&oldid=1577060 altered the edit summary for this]? There wasnt any sort of copyright infringement involved. [[User:Vuvuzela2010|'''Vuvuzela2010''']][[Latios (Pokémon)| Δ ]] 01:12, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
:We're not supposed to link to Serebii or any other unreliable, or unofficial site as reference. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 01:20, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

==HEY!==
Not that you can capture tornadus pre-ending. Somebody did it. Of course you don't know cause you have completed the game.--My r6g4rdz, [[User:Mr-ex777|TEH GIGA-UBER-1337-HAX0R(Mr-ex777)]] 09:50, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
:Would you mind showing some form of proof? [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 09:55, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
::Never mind, I checked the official source. It says nothing about the pair being post-ending whereas it labels everything else that is post-ending. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 10:02, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

== Mrwhatever ==
has performed several vandalism-type edits, has not defended himself, and has not discussed his POVs on talk pages. He needs a block longer than 3 months.--[[User:Muk-a-matic|Muk-a-matic-Maketh the Muk go round...]] 09:05, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
:I wouldn't necessarily call his edits "vandal-like" from what I've seen. (Unless I'm missing something.) They just seem misguided, and while they should state their reasonings, I don't think it warrants a three month+ block. Help to drive them in the right direction, and if they disregard these advises, then we can think about a short block. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 09:14, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

== Kyurem EX ND 96 ==

Okay to replace the current photo with the english FA?

[[User:Bluefinancier|Bluefinancier]] 14:32, 29 January 2012 (UTC)bluefinancier
:You need to upload over the old file instead of simply uploading it as if it's a different file. You have to keep the naming standard for TCG card files. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 20:48, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

== AG068 ==

I wrote in AG068 "For the first time in the [[Pokemon_anime|Pokemon anime]], battle is lost due to trainer was unable to fight", you removed this addition.

And in which episode was it? I mean that the trainer is unable to battle, but does not refuse to continue it.
[[User:Rootaria|Rootaria]] 15:54, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
:I'd say in [[EP001]]; Pikachu is incapacitated by the Spearow, leaving Ash with no more Pokémon to use. If not that, then maybe one of the early Team Rocket battles (before they started blasting off), any of the gym battles Ash (or anyone else) lost, or even the Leagues. Needless to say, battles losing by running out of usable Pokémon are fairly common place material. I don't think we should really point it out, anyway. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 16:01, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

It's usual situation when the trainer has left no Pokemon and so couldn't continue the battle.
In AG068 Ash was hit by Ember and fell into a swoon although his Pokemon (Taillow) was '''not''' hurt. That's why he lose the battle with May and this situation is unusual. What do you think about it?

[[User:Rootaria|Rootaria]] 16:42, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

== Android Question ==

Well, as I've been looking around, I haven't been able to find any kind of android app based on the fantastic content on this site. I was wonder, is there an app in development? And if there is, is there any way I might be able to assist with the process? If not, I would be more than happy to volunteer to develop such an app. --[[User:Lord Pent|Lord Pent]] 20:30, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
:No, I do not believe anyone is making an app for Bulbapedia. If I recall, I think it would be illegal since no one here owns Pokémon? But I could be wrong. If you like, [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/f195/suggestions-ideas-problems-39604/ bring it up here] and see what someone else says. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 20:38, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
::We were looking into working with the creators of one of the Pokedex apps to create one when Nintendo issued cease and desist notices to the creators of all Pokedex/similar apps. Basically, Nintendo has made their stance clear - they draw the line between fansites and apps. Thus there will not be a Bulbapedia app created for either android or ipod/iphone in the near future. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 07:40, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

==Rarity==
its not unkown that is why im changing it to rare because i can find 5 in 5 min - {{unsigned|Pokemonlover91}}

== Nimbasa City ==

Um can I please know why you erased the photo I put? {{unsigned|MaidensGhost}}
:Because cities featured in the main series must have an in-game screenshot in their infobox. Anime screenshots belong in the "In the anime" section. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 02:25, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Ok thanks for explaining. ([[User:MaidensGhost|ღMaidensGhostღ]] 04:24, 8 February 2012 (UTC))

== How did it happen! ==

Hi! I'm new to bulbapedia.I recently expanded an article using another article's info and it got deleted.Was I doing something wrong or is someone playing a prank on me?

--[[User:Littleroot leader shravan(ability leader)|Shravs]] 13:13, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
:If you're referring to your addition to [[International Police]], it's because it didn't meet Bulbapedia's quality expectations. Your addition was mostly focused on the character, [[Looker]], and not the International Police as a whole. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 13:17, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
May I know how to put pics,please!

--Shravs [[User talk:Littleroot leader shravan(ability leader)|(New Bark Gym)]] 14:27, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

== Delete Image? ==

{{redlink|File:Coronet1.png}} {{img|Mt_Coronet_south.png}}

Guess what image needs deleting? Don't worry! I already checked to see if other pages link to that old file and made the correct revisions. --[[User:Wildgoosespeeder|Wildgoosespeeder]] 22:40, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
:Deleted. Though next time, just put a <nowiki>{{delete}}</nowiki> on the image summary. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 01:50, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
::OK then. I'll make sure to place <nowiki>{{delete}}</nowiki> next time. I think I tried using that template once and got a very delayed response. --[[User:Wildgoosespeeder|Wildgoosespeeder]] 02:04, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

== Another Pokemon merchandise page? ==

Would it be alright to make a new one? Got a book today called "The Art of: Pokémon The First Movie". Was wondering if that would be worth making a page on as well? [[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen Fennec]] 22:00, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
:Sure. I think any official book is worth a page. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 22:03, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
::Alright then. Will try to get the cover image of it too. Thanks for permission again. [[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen Fennec]] 22:04, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
:::If you know the {{wp|ISBN}} code, you should be able to find the book online and get a cover image that way. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 22:08, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

== Submit Image ==

Good evening administrator!
I would like to submit an image which is related to [[AG173|All That Glitters is Not Golden!]].
Specifically it is related to this error:When everyone fled into Keenan's house for the first time, the golden Sudowoodo appeared on the screen for a split second. The golden Sudowoodo wasn't with them at this point.
Here is the link:http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/703/sudowoodoerror.png/

19:52:27,14 February 2012 (UTC) DJ Wolfy
:The bottom right corner is all smudged like someone tried to cover up a watermark, poorly. So get an image without a watermark, then upload it [[a:Special:Upload|here]] with all the proper licensing and categorization. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 20:03, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Sorry I can't upload it due to this:The action you have requested is limited to users in one of the groups: Bots, Administrators, Bureaucrats, emailconfirmed, Senior Administrators, Editorial Board, Technical staff.
Return to Main Page.

I couldn't find a non-watermarked image so I cut it down.
Here is the link again:http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/210/sudowoodoerror.png/

P.S. - What is the code for writing in blue text ?

--'''DJWolfy''' 20:11, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
:I checked. It seems you're not even registered. There are separate registrations between Bulbapedia and the Archives. So just because you have an account on Bulbapedia doesn't mean you have an account on the Archives, and vice versa. While we'd prefer the images weren't cropped just to hide a watermark, it's better than nothing...

:Also, <nowiki>This code will make blue text.</nowiki> This code will make blue text. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 20:18, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Thank you!
Well it seems I can log onto Archives using my Bulbapedia account.Does that mean I am registered on Archives?
--DJWolfy. 20:22, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
:Oh, yes. It's been a looooong time since I registered so it slipped my mind...so yeah, it's global. Same can be done with Bulbanews. Also, be sure to link to your page or talk page in your signature. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 20:31, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Well,I don't have my personal page,but if you would show me a link with all or some of the templates maybe I'll make my personal page,since I don't want it to be plain.
--'''DJWolfy'''. 20:35, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

== Sorry ==
Sorry for using my userspace too much. Do you forgive me? [[User:LMFS|LMFS]] 03:04, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
Oh, I am also sorry for all the other stuff I did. I am new (kind of) to Bulbapedia [[User:LMFS|LMFS]] 03:18, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

== His edits ==

You might want to do something about {{tt|this user|MrMarpinjo62}} as he keeps on making useless edits despite multiple warnings. [[User:Pattyman|Patty]][[User talk:Pattyman|Man]] 20:20, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
Can you tell me which user please? [[User:LMFS|LMFS]] 01:58, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

==SandmanDP==
Hi Jo, I'm coming to you because you're the latest admin who's made an edit on my watchlist. ^-^; SandmanDP is repeatedly reverting edits, and not listening to order, even removing my comments on his talk page and saying that I was spamming and harrasing him. Can you please do something about it? He isn't listening to reason. ^-^; [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 16:14, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
:Jo, she went against the leader of Project Anime and defied intervention to continue the edit war. Vuvu even tried to stop her but obviously was not available. I had every right to revert her for ignoring two talkpages--[[User:SandmanDP|SandmanDP]] 16:17, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
::I'm killing this argument before it even begins. Drop this for right now, both of you. I'll share this with the other admins later when they get online, and we'll investigate what's going on and reach a consensus. For now, both of you either take a break from the internet, or try to avoid each other. Just please do not get in an argument on my talk page. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 16:21, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

== "Cooling down" ==

Not saying your edit summary is involved, because it isn't, but how many times does the newbie have to be bullied before the bullies are finally punished?--[[User:SandmanDP|SandmanDP]] 18:03, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
:First off: I'm going to answer your question bluntly and honestly, and I don't want to get into an argument with you. If you don't like what I have to say, fine, but you came to me and asked me, so I'm going to be honest. We all clear? Okay.
:{| width="100%" class="expandable" |
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| So far, I've yet to see any real harassment towards you. What I do see is you jumping down people's throats and acting too hasty. The issue is that you tend [http://www.thefreedictionary.com/antagonize antagonize] people who are just trying to have a civil conversation. When you do this, you start feeling like everyone is against you and you do basically what you're doing now. Warring, arguing, and reports fly everywhere because everyone feels like they're a victim. Let me just say this as clearly as I can: <div style="text-decoration:blink"><big><big><big><big>No one is out to get you.</big></big></big></big></div>
You need to take the time to stop, breathe, calm down, and think logically about what the person is trying to tell you. I assure you, no one takes pleasure in picking on you. In fact, most of us would rather do something else than spend hours arguing with someone. So I'll tell you once again: Take a break and relax. The site isn't going anywhere. I promise you'll live if you just back off for an hour or two.
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:[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 18:27, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

== Gotta Catch 'Em All Event Question ==
There was over 30 (possibly 40+) Gotta Catch 'Em All events distributed in Japan for the GBA games. I was wondering if there should be separate list dedicated (new page) to just these events (similar to the 10th Anniversary and Jeremy). There was 5 different distributions, with each one containing different Pokémon. Each Pokémon had the OT of フクオカ, オ-サカ, ナゴヤ, サッポロ, トウキョ- or ヨコハマ depending of the Pokémon Center it was obtained from. Do you think a new page should be created just for the Gotta Catch 'Em All events? --[[User:Lady Ariel|Lady Ariel]] 22:16, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

== EP 149 ==

Good afternoon!
I managed to complete the synopsis for [[EP149]].I think it is safe now to remove the incomplete synopsis template.On another notice, the image I've sent for [[AG173]] wasn't added.Will it be ?--[[User:DJWolfy|--'''DJ''']][[User talk:DJWolfy|'''Wolfy''']] 11:49, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

== admin ==

--[[User:Saumya 1234|S.M]] 09:58, 24 February 2012 (UTC)please make me the admin i will try my best to do in this website.
:No. Firstly, you need experience to become an admin. You also can't ''ask'' to be an admin. See: {{bp|FAQ#How do I become an admin?|this section.}} Secondly, you came to the wrong person. I can't promote or demote anybody. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 17:54, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

== Pokémon Rumble Blast moves ==

The thing about Pokémon Rumble Blast moves is that it's not just "Attack. Attack. Attack." but there's position, direction, etc. Plus there is a damage rating in ☆s or {{color|F8D030|★}}s. But yes, I will leave moves like {{m|Barrier}} untouched...
——{{u|Pokéglare|Po}}{{ut|Pokéglare|ké}}[[Special:Contributions/Pokéglare|glare]]

== Meowth in Pokémon Apokélypse ==

I would've asked somebody else, but I couldn't find anybody so I turned to you. Meowth in [[Pokémon Apokélypse]] did not have a voice that was shown in the trailer, I would understand why it's on the cast list, but can I add some reference to him not having any speaking lines? [[User:Pokedex493|Pokedex493]] 05:16, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
:Just put N/A next to his name. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 05:29, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
::Okay thanks. [[User:Pokedex493|Pokedex493]] 05:31, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

== PokéPark 2 ==

Seeing as you are creating and updating articles for that game would you mind writing in the info on the back of the game case [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_games here]]. Would be nice. Almost wrote in the Pokémon Puzzle Challenge one but the only image I could find was small and there was camera glare all over it making reading it impossible. :( ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 20:31, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

== Usertags ==

Asked this on Knji-Girl's page without knowing she's one of the main admins. :( Was wondering if redirects count as edits to the mainspace and if so did I do enough to warrant the use of any edit milestone tags? If I haven't earned them then that is OK with me. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 04:42, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
:Eh, they're nice, but not a huge deal. They don't count towards the [[TCM]] either. We prefer milestone tags be used for TCM-qualifying edits. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 05:07, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
::Alright, thanks for letting me know. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 05:10, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

== My Edits ==

Have I done better with my edits?[[User:LMFS|LMFS]] 05:12, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
:No. No you have not. You've made three edits, all of which were almost immediately undone. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 05:19, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
Okay, can you come to my talkpage and discuss it with me?[[User:LMFS|LMFS]] 04:43, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
I must disagree, I did edits but others corrected my grammar mistakes & mistakes in general and made it understandable.[[User:LMFS|LMFS]] 04:34, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
== Sandman0721 ==

I just welcomed this new user, Sandman0721, but I have a sneeking suspicion about this user. It's similar to SandmanDP, who we know got into feuds with practically everyone (even me), and was blocked for about 2 months by [[User:MAGNEDETH|MAGNEDETH]]. Anyway, my suspicion is that this new user might be a sockpuppet of SandmanDP, as a loophole from the block. You might want to check Sandman0721's background (confirm his identity). Thanks! [[User:Satoshi101|サトシ]] 23:13, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
:I've investigated and found the IPs do not match. The term "sandman" is a popular term so it's not unlikely that more than one person might use this title. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 23:39, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

== Usertag boxes? ==

Was wondering if it would be alright if I redid my usertags section to being similar to {{tt|yours|not the same exact usertags though}}. As in similar in design. Would this be ok with you? ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 00:27, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
:You can use it as a base, but be sure to make it unique to you. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 00:36, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
::Will do. Thank you for giving me permission. :) ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 00:36, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

== VANDAL ==

{{u|Turtlesonturtles}}, quickly block him please!--[[User:Rsrdaman|'''×Rsr''']][[User_Talk:Rsrdaman|'''daman×''']] 01:24, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
:Nevermind, {{u|Masatoshi}} got him.--[[User:Rsrdaman|'''×Rsr''']][[User_Talk:Rsrdaman|'''daman×''']] 01:38, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

== important question from me ==

What is a speculation crackdown? [[User:Chomper4|Chomper4]] 17:17, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
:That's the protection reason used when the protection exists to prevent people making an article/adding info before it is officially confirmed. It's often used when we get information from a source which is known to be unreliable, although that isn't the only reason. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 20:37, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

== User Country ==

When you added the protection to the User:Country template in February, the same level of protection was [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Template:User_Country/List_of_countries&diff=1595053&oldid=1570079 accidentally added] to a related page, [[Template:User Country/List of countries]], though [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Special%3AWhatLinksHere&target=Template%3AUser+Country%2FList+of+countries&namespace= that page isnt linked to like the tempate is]. A Slovakian user wants to change the Slovakian tag I added to something more appropriate, but they are unable to do so because of the protection. Is it possible to unprotect that page, while keeping the template protected? '''X'''[[User:Vuvuzela2010|'''Vuvuzela2010''']]'''X''' 12:51, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

== Thanks :) ==

Hey, thanks for sticking up for me before. You have no idea how many times I'll write something and someone just deletes it, without explanation, even if it's true! :) ''[[User:Charlize de Rose|Charli]] [[User talk:Charlize de Rose|♥]]'' 05:52, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

== Uh... ==

I thought that jumping the gun was discouraged on this pedia. But looks like this doesn't apply to admins. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 10:24, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
:It's not jumping any guns. He is going to be a major character throughout the tournament, like Morrison, Tyson, Tobias, and many more. We know this for a fact. Like I said, if you disagree with something, ask '''before''' you take action. Additionally, if you don't agree with something someone did, don't be rude about it. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 11:00, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
::I thought that being a Wiki editor means that you can edit articles WITHOUT consulting everything. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 11:09, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
:::Just think I should point out that I removed Harrison and Tyson from that template (for some reason, they were in the ''Rivals'' section) since they were only around for a small arc of episodes, and never appeared again after that. '''X'''[[User:Vuvuzela2010|'''Vuvuzela2010''']]'''X''' 11:15, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
::::This isn't simply adding or removing content from a page, it was deciding the classification of a character. The style is decided by the Heads of the various fields of the franchise. So yes, you are allowed to edit whatever without having to ask, but if it has to do with something major to a project, you need to bring it up with the Head of that section or project. They are in charge of the movement of that field, and they look over the work that is done and make major decisions. As such, they ''always'' have a good reason to do something, and their opinion should be respected. If you disagree, you may bring it up with them (Third time). That's democracy, and before you say it's unfair, this is how most governments work. It's similar to the {{wp|Cabinet (government)|Cabinet}} in government being in charge of various fields of the economy. They're in charge of making the big decisions that they feel are best for the economy, and the citizens. If you disagree, you're allowed to voice your opinion to them. But to go against them without due process could get you arrested. I fail to see how this is any different. If you're still confused, then it can't be helped. But I feel I've explained it to the best of my abilities. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 11:53, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

== Time display at the top of your talkpage ==

Hi,

May I have your permission to take the time display markup you have at the top of your talk page for my own page? I'll only take the markup for the hour, minute, whether it's AM or PM and the purge link. Is that all right with you? Thanks for your time and have a nice weekend! Cheers, [[User:Haxorus|'''Hax''']][[User talk:Haxorus|'''or''']][[Special:MyContributions|'''us''']] 14:21, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
:Sure. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 22:43, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
::Thanks! Enjoy your weekend. :-) Cheers, [[User:Haxorus|'''Hax''']][[User talk:Haxorus|'''or''']][[Special:MyContributions|'''us''']] 04:02, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

==Can you explain something for me?==
So I can only make 3 edits total to any pages that start with User:then my username? Is there a restriction on talk pages? I was just wondering. [[User:Pringles|Pringles]] 20:09, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
:I think it depends. If you're making personal edits to your talk, like giving it its own style, I think it should count towards userspace edits. But if you're just responding to messages, then no, it shouldn't count. There is sort of a talk page restriction, but it's only if you edit nothing except talk pages for unnecessarily long periods of time. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 23:42, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

Okay, thanks.[[User:Pringles|Pringles]] 00:51, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

== Just askin' ==

I'm just asking since you're a staff member, how do I change the size of a file? Chowolun 20:32, 3 April 2012 (UTC) [[User:Lucario985]]
:On a page? Just change then number: <nowiIki>[[File:None.png|</nowiki>'''200px'''<nowiki>]]</nowiki> Before you upload it? You'll need image editing software. Some versions of Paint let you edit size somewhat cleanly, but more expansive ones like Photoshop are better. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 20:38, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

== Some more help ==

As you responded to my question to ForceFire, I thought you may be able to help me with something else. You said I need to edit around the site for a bit. I presumed this meant mainspace however since walkthroughs are my favourite thing to edit and they are not like userpages (the are partially encyclopaedic), do they count in the 'editing around the site' that you mentioned. [[User:MajesticRayquaza|''Majestic'']][[User talk:MajesticRayquaza|'''Rayquaza''']] 10:58, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
:Sure do. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 12:48, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
:Edit: Actually, while Appendix edits do count, don't completely ignore the main-mainspace either. :P Main-Mainspace >>> Appendix [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 13:40, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

== The +/- numbers on the contribution pages ==

What does the +/- number stat mean on the Contributions page? [[User:G50|G50]] 02:24, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
:It's the number of characters added/removed from the page during that edit. I'm not entirely sure what the bold is for, though. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 02:53, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
::I believe bold is for additions/subtractions of 500 or more characters. - [[User:Poikins|'''poi''']][[User talk:Poikins|'''kins''']] 02:55, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

== [[User:Marked +-+-+/Types color coding|Types' colors]] ==

Didn't had anything to do, so I started this (and planning to do this with Stadium, RSE, FRLG, and both PMD; rest will need help). Not sure if this could be useful to mainspace. Oh, and Stadium 2 colors can be bit off, it's hard to pick the right color (in Paint I see that icon and text are in many shades of their colors). [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] 17:57, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

==Hello!==
This pic is good for [[Lyra (anime)]]??
:http://www.netupload.org/files/2tx2tfj0pbf3zwi2t0cb.png
--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] 01:23 - 10 April 2012 (UTC)
:No. It's very blurry and poorly cropped. Plus she's missing her feet. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 01:28, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

== IRC ==

Hi Jo, I was wondering if you knew the name of Bulbapedia's IRC channel? I know there's a direct link to it in the side navbar, but my laptop doesn't seem to recognise <code>irc://</code> as a web address, and I can't find the name anywhere else. D: [[User:Ronan|'''Ronan''']] 10:16, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
:I know there's one called #bulbagarden, but that is general for the whole of Bulbagarden (The wiki, archives, news, and forums), then there should be #bulbapedia. I can't say for sure how many people will be there though. Not many of our staff use irc. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 10:33, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
::Ah, okay. Thanks. [[User:Ronan|'''Ronan''']] 10:55, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
:::There is the #bulbapedia channel on the IRC.[[User:G50|태권도]] [[User_talk:G50|합기도]] 10:58, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
::::Yes, I just said that. But none of the staff really go there. The only one that might is {{u|Masatoshi}}. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 11:00, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

==Rumble==

I was wondering if I could tweak the rumble location sections for kanto/sin oh pokemon? For instance, instead of just putting "fiery furnace" for flareon's rumble section, could i put "fiery furnace normal mode s"? It saves a lot of user's time, as they won't have to search thru a ton of pages to find the game location. It'll also give me something to do. I'm not sure if rumble blast could be the same, but I'm glad to do it for that too.[[User:Pringles|Pringles]] 21:16, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
:Something like that would be good. But Rumble Blast is all taken care of. There shouldn't be anything needing done for that. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 23:44, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

== keldeo ==

the old pic for keldeo in the anime was bad because there was a thing that said it was bad so i changed it but why did you change it back?--[[User:Poke1|Poke1]] 00:10, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
:Cause it's supposed to stay Keldeo_anime.png. I uploaded your image over the old image rather than uploading a completely new image. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 00:13, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

i don't get what you said.--[[User:Poke1|Poke1]] 00:16, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

Keldeo (Pokémon)

2012-04-14T00:12:44Z

Poke1: /* In the anime */

{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Kyurem | next=Meloetta | prevnum=646 | nextnum=648 | type=Water | type2=Fighting }}
{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Keldeo |
jname=ケルディオ |
tmname=Keldeo |
size=190px |
art=BW |
pron=<sc>''{{{pron|kel-de-o}}}''</sc> |
species=Colt |
typen=2 |
type1=Water |
type2=Fighting |
abilityn=1 |
ability1=Justified |
ndex=647 |
udex=153 |
height-ftin=4'08" |
height-m=1.4|
weight-lbs=106.9 |
weight-kg=48.5 |
egggroupn=1 |
egggroup1=Undiscovered |
egggroup2= |
evsp=1|
evsa=1|
evsd=1|
eggcycles=80|
expyield=261 |
lv100exp=1,250,000|
gendercode=255|
color=Yellow |
evspat=3|
catchrate=3 |
body=08 |
pokefordex=keldeo |
generation=5 |
footnotes=}}
'''Keldeo''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''ケルディオ''' ''Keldeo'') is a dual-type {{2t|Water|Fighting}} [[legendary Pokémon]].

It is not known to [[Evolution|evolve]] into or from any Pokémon.

It was first officially revealed on [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/info/2012/02/120215_g01.html?a001=news February 15, 2012], with a photo of a page from the [[CoroCoro]] magazine {{n|Keldeo to be revealed in upcoming CoroCoro|leaked}} just a few days before.

Along with {{p|Cobalion}}, {{p|Terrakion}}, and {{p|Virizion}}, Keldeo is a member of the [[legendary musketeers]].

==Biology==
===Physiology===
Keldeo is pony-like, with a large, feathery red mane, long, dark blue, ridged eyebrow-like features, and a single cream-colored horn that is slightly curved. The back of its head, as well as its neck, has light blue-and-white-spotted coloration with spiky edges at the lower portion. Its body is cream-colored, with blue hooves. Its blue-and-white-spotted, lifted and feathery tail is comparable to an elaborate feather in a cap.

====Gender differences====
Keldeo is a genderless species.

===Special abilities===
Keldeo has the ability to cross water by ejecting water from its hooves, similar to {{p|Suicune}}.

===Behavior===
Keldeo tends to run about the entire world, running on the surface of seas and rivers.

===Habitat===
Keldeo appears at beautiful watersides.

===Diet===
{{main|Pokémon food}}

==History==
Long ago, a fire started in the [[Moor of Icirrus]] because of a war among people. In this fire, Keldeo was separated from its parents, but together, {{p|Cobalion}}, {{p|Terrakion}}, and {{p|Virizion}} took care of Keldeo. They acted as its parents, and they taught it knowledge and moves for survival. Keldeo eventually grew and even surpassed the three Pokémon. One day, Keldeo took off from the forest with no one knowing why.

When the three meet again, they teach Keldeo the move {{m|Secret Sword}}.

==In the anime==
[[File:Keldeo.png|thumb|250px|Keldeo in the anime]]
===Major appearances===
Keldeo will make its debut in the [[M15|fifteenth]] [[Pokémon movie]], being one of its stars along with {{p|Cobalion}}, {{p|Terrakion}}, {{p|Virizion}} and {{p|Kyurem}}.

===Minor appearances===

==In the manga==

==In the TCG==
{{main|Keldeo (TCG)}}

==Game data==

===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex
|type=Water
|type2=Fighting
|gen=5
|blackdex=By blasting water from its hooves, it can glide across water. It excels at using leg moves while battling.
|whitedex=It crosses the world, running over the surfaces of oceans and rivers. It appears at scenic waterfronts.
}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability|
type=Water|
type2=Fighting |
gen=5 |
gen5ex=none |
bwrarity=None|
bwarea=[[Event]]|
}}

====In side games====

===Held items===

===Stats===
====Base stats====
{{BaseStats|
type=Water|
type2=Fighting |
HP= 91 |
Attack= 72 |
Defense=90 |
SpAtk= 129 |
SpDef= 90 |
Speed= 108 }}

===Type effectiveness===
{{Type effectiveness|
type1=Water|
type2=Fighting|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting=100 |
Flying= 200 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 100 |
Rock= 50 |
Bug= 50 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 50 |

Fire= 50 |
Water= 50 |
Grass= 200 |
Electric=200 |
Psychic= 200 |
Ice= 50 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 50 |
}}

===Learnset===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{learnlist/levelh|Keldeo|Water|Fighting|5|5}}
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Aqua Jet|Water|Physical|40|100|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Leer|Normal|Status|—|100|30}}
{{learnlist/level5|7|Double Kick|Fighting|Physical|30|100|30||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|13|BubbleBeam|Water|Special|65|100|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|19|Take Down|Normal|Physical|90|85|20}}
{{learnlist/level5|25|Helping Hand|Normal|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/level5|31|Retaliate|Normal|Physical|70|100|5}}
{{learnlist/level5|37|Aqua Tail|Water|Physical|90|90|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|43|Sacred Sword|Fighting|Physical|90|100|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|49|Swords Dance|Normal|Status|—|—|30}}
{{learnlist/level5|55|Quick Guard|Fighting|Status|—|—|15}}
{{learnlist/level5|61|Work Up|Normal|Status|—|—|30}}
{{learnlist/level5|67|Hydro Pump|Water|Special|120|80|5||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|73|Close Combat|Fighting|Physical|120|100|5||'''}}
{{learnlist/levelf|Keldeo|Water|Fighting|5|5}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{learnlist/tmh|Keldeo|Water|Fighting|5|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM04|Calm Mind|Psychic|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM05|Roar|Normal|Status|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM06|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|90|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM07|Hail|Ice|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM10|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|—|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM12|Taunt|Dark|Status|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM15|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM17|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM18|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM20|Safeguard|Normal|Status|—|—|25}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM21|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM27|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM32|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM33|Reflect|Psychic|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM40|Aerial Ace|Flying|Physical|60|—|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM42|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM44|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM48|Round|Normal|Special|60|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM52|Focus Blast|Fighting|Special|120|70|5||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM54|False Swipe|Normal|Physical|40|100|40}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM55|Scald|Water|Special|80|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM67|Retaliate|Normal|Physical|70|100|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM68|Giga Impact|Normal|Physical|150|90|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM71|Stone Edge|Rock|Physical|100|80|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM75|Swords Dance|Normal|Status|—|—|30}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM77|Psych Up|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM81|X-Scissor|Bug|Physical|80|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM83|Work Up|Normal|Status|—|—|30}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM84|Poison Jab|Poison|Physical|80|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM87|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM90|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM94|Rock Smash|Fighting|Physical|40|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|HM01|Cut|Normal|Physical|50|95|30}}
{{learnlist/tm5|HM03|Surf|Water|Special|95|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|HM04|Strength|Normal|Physical|80|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tmf|Keldeo|Water|Fighting|5|5}}

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
{{learnlist/breedh|Keldeo|Water|Fighting|5|5}}
{{learnlist/breed5null}}
{{learnlist/breedf|Keldeo|Water|Fighting|5|5}}

====By [[Move tutor|tutoring]]====
=====Special moves=====
{{learnlist/tutorh|Keldeo|water|fighting|5|5}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Secret Sword|Fighting|Special|85|100|10|{{tt|*|Fateful encounter only}}|'''|yes}}
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===Evolution===
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==Trivia==
* As the fourth member of the [[legendary musketeers]], it shares several traits with them, but is somewhat different in a number of ways:
** Unlike the others, Keldeo is unable to learn {{m|Quick Attack}}. Instead, it is capable of learning {{m|Aqua Jet}}, a [[move variations|variation]] of Quick Attack.
** The moves that Keldeo learns by level have higher base powers than the moves learned by the other legendary musketeers.
** Keldeo learns {{m|Sacred Sword}} one level later than the other three.
** Keldeo is not listed near the other three in [[National Pokédex]] order.
** It distributes {{EV}}s for three different stats ({{stat|Special Attack}}, {{stat|Special Defense}}, and {{stat|Speed}}) as opposed to a single stat.
** Its legs seem to be stylized after animal legs and hooves, unlike the others, which seem to have boots.
* Keldeo has the highest {{stat|Special Attack}} of all {{type|Fighting}} Pokémon.
* Keldeo, along with {{p|Meloetta}}, are the only {{pkmn2|event}}-exclusive [[legendary Pokémon]] to learn their [[signature move]]s from an external source.
* Keldeo has the lowest base stat total of all event-exclusive legendary Pokémon, excluding {{p|Phione}}, whose legendary status is disputed.
* Its trait of running across water mirrors {{p|Suicune}}, another quadrupedal {{type|Water}} legendary Pokémon.

===Origin===
Keldeo is most likely based on a combination of the legend of the {{wp|kelpie}}, a supernatural water horse that sometimes appeared as a lost pony, and a {{wp|unicorn}}. Keldeo may also be inspired by the character of {{wp|d'Artagnan}} from the novel ''{{wp|The Three Musketeers}}''. Like d'Artagnan, it is the latest and youngest addition to the group. Keldeo's tail also resembles d'Artagnan's trademark feathered cap.

====Name origin====
Keldeo's name is probably derived from ''kelda'', which means 'spring' in {{wp|Old Norse}}, or ''{{wp|kelpie}}'', a water horse from Celtic folklore and the word ''{{wp|rodeo}}'', a sport involving skills with horses, cows and other livestock.

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* '''Please use English.''' It's not that I'm against other languages, it's just...how am I suppose to respond when I don't know what you said?
* '''Please do not respond for me.''' I don't mind people tacking on their own questions to a discussion that's already been made, even before I have the chance to answer the initial post. But when someone personally has come here to ask ''me'' a question, don't answer for me. And if someone has answered for me, please don't take their word for my own. I can guarantee you that almost no one on this site knows me as well as I do. If you want ''my'' opinion, you wait for ''my'' response. [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jo_The_Marten&action=edit&section=new Leave new messages at the '''bottom''' of this page.]
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== Eevee brothers ==

Mikey is actually an eevee brother because at the end of the episode one of them say to him they are truely the eevee brothers. {{unsigned|Yoster10}}
:I know. But he also has his own page [[Mikey|here]] while his brothers only share a [[Eevee brothers|collective page]]. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 23:09, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
Ok then fair enough, but dont you think he should be on the page. {{unsigned|Yoster10}}
:Mikey is mentioned on the page, but it also links to his main article. It's like when a Pokémon has an article. We link to their article, not to their table on their trainer's page. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 23:21, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
This is a bit of a wierd question and you will probably say no but do you have any legendaries you are willing to trade for non-legendaries because on monday i am getting the final Pokémon i need to obtain all non-legendaries so i need just 8 legendaries left which are: [[Mew]], [[Celebi]], [[Jirachi]], [[Deoxys]], [[Darkrai]], [[Keldeo]], [[Meloetta]] and [[Genesect]]. {{unsigned|Yoster10}}
:I don't own a Keldeo, Meloette, or Genesect, and I'm not interested in trading any of my others. Plus I've had issues with wi-fi lately. Sorry. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 01:21, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
It's ok i was just wondering. [[User:Yoster10|Yoster10]] 13:11, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

== Orange Islands Who's That Pokemon? ==
Do you also need me to obtain the images for the English Who's That Pokemon? from the Orange Islands saga? Since I also have that whole box set as well. I am almost done with the Pokemon Master Quest, since I am going to work on the second box set today. --[[User:Lady Ariel|Lady Ariel]] 17:59, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
:Sure, that'd be fine. [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=File:WTP_EP026.png&action=edit Just be sure to use this for the summary] when you upload (and of course change everything accordingly). Thanks again for all your help. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 18:05, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

== User Page ==

On your user page it shows Pokémon in circles at the top how could i do that please if it is ok for me to do. [[User:Yoster10|Yoster10]] 18:33, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
:You can use it as a base, but try to add your own unique twist to it. Here's a base code with nothing in it:

<pre>{| width="64px" height="64px" align="center" style="{{roundy|80px}}; border: 5px solid #000000; background: #FFFFFF;"
| style="{{roundy|150px}} background: #FFFFFF;"| [[File:None.png]]
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[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 18:39, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Cheers. [[User:Yoster10|Yoster10]] 18:42, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
I tried to put in a picture and i put down smaller sizes but when i added the picture this happened.

{| width="64px" height="64px" align="center" style="{{roundy|80px}}; border: 5px solid #000000; background: #FFFFFF;"
| style="{{roundy|150px}} background: #FFFFFF;"| [[File:151Mew.png|64px]]
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Do you know how i can make it smaller and take off the rectangles at the bottom and top. [[User:Yoster10|Yoster10]] 19:14, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
:Those rectangles are your border. I've made the image smaller for you. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 19:26, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
What about the extra space at the bottom can that be taken off by any chance. [[User:Yoster10|Yoster10]] 19:34, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
:Did you only want one circle? I was under the impression you wanted the whole circle with four Pokémon. In that case, I've edited the code accordingly. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 19:40, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for that you are a big help. [[User:Yoster10|Yoster10]] 19:45, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

== Watchlist. ==

When i go onto my watchlist i see numbers such as (+249) and (-59), what does this mean? [[User:Yoster10|Yoster10]] 21:19, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
:That's the number of {{wp|Byte|bytes}} have been added/removed in the edit. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 21:21, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
Ok, thank you. [[User:Yoster10|Yoster10]] 21:22, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

== Whoops ==

I somehow managed to put a welcome template on a {{u|Rozi|user's page}} instead of their talk page. Since you're an admin, would you mind fixing it for me? --[[User:Darth Zekrom|'''Darth''']] [[User talk:Darth Zekrom|'''Zekrom''']] 02:03, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
:All fixed. Have a nice evening.[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 02:45, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

== Template: MftE ==

Just a minor thing: Trom didn't change his Haunter to a Winter Sawsbuck in the permitted editors list on the page...--[[User:SandmanDP|SandmanDP]] 02:34, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
:That's because he only did it so it'd match the winter-themed main page back during December. He's still represented by a Haunter. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 02:37, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
::Oops, my mistake. I forgot how long it's been since it was updated...--[[User:SandmanDP|SandmanDP]] 02:45, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

== Spellcheck ==

Just letting you know, because of my less than good spelling, I've given others permission to fix them [[User:05308|Diamond]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|Lanturn]] [[User talk:05308|CodeName: 05308]] 09:37, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

== Page. ==

There was no content on the page because i was creating it, could you please undo your deletion please. if you cannot i will just recreate it and add the content. [[User:Yoster10|Yoster10]] 19:07, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

Do not threaten an administrator. By the way, the page was previously here [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Mini-Dit&diff=prev&oldid=534358] but was redirected over three years ago--[[User:SandmanDP|SandmanDP]] 19:11, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
:@Yoster: I won't restore it, and if you make it again, I will protect it from creation. If you look at [[Duplica]]'s page, we can see that Mini-Dit barely has any content in its table. I think that's a tell-tale sign that it's simply not notable enough for its own page. The next time you start an article, give it more substance. Pages with just the infobox and opening sentence will be deleted.
:@Sandman: Please don't butt into a conversation you're not a part of, or respond for me. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 19:14, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
::Other users do it all the time on behalf of the intended user. I was only trying to help. . PS you may wanna protect this too[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Mini-Dit&redirect=no]--[[User:SandmanDP|SandmanDP]] 19:18, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
I was not being threatening, if you are reffering to where i said 'i will just recreate it and add the content.' i meant that if you are unable to undo the deletion then i would not mind recreating. If i was being threatening then i would of said "if you do not undo your deletion then i will recreate it". I looked at that link and what i already done (including what you did not see) looked better so i suggest that you allow me to be able to do mine instead of that please.[[User:Yoster10|Yoster10]] 19:19, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
:It was still said threateningly. Just because you meant it that way doesn't mean the original connotation changed back to your intention--[[User:SandmanDP|SandmanDP]] 19:24, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
Ok then i phrased it wrong, but that does not mean i am threatening him. [[User:Yoster10|Yoster10]] 19:26, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
:@Sandman: That's the user's decision, but if it's on a staff member's page, leave it to the staff member to respond.
:@Yoster10: When users use all capital letters, it is seen as shouting, and in turn makes it sound rude. I'll leave it to the {{u|Kenji-girl|anime head}} to decide if it's notable or not. But considering it doesn't meet the {{bp|Notability requirements/Anime Pokémon|notablility requirements}}, I doubt it will be made into a page. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 19:29, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
::Mini-Dit actually had a page at one point, but it was deemed unnotable and redirected in November 2008. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[Special:Contributions/MAGNEDETH|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 19:32, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
I did not use all capital letters anywhere, i only use capital letters when i am starting a new sentence or writing a name or any other reason because that is proper-English-grammer.{{unsigned|Yoster10}}
:While that may be true, you basically said "If you don't do what I want I will defy you using alternative methods no matter what you say". That's pretty threatening--[[User:SandmanDP|SandmanDP]] 19:55, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
::@Yoster10: [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jo_The_Marten&diff=prev&oldid=1586091 Case in point.]
::@Sandman: Sandman, please, this is my talk page. I would really appreciate it if you'd leave the conversation. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 20:01, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
I never said that in any sort, what i basically said was "if you cannot undo it then i do not mind recreating it." Please just look at what i said carefully because i think you and Jo The Marten have looked at what i said in the wrong way and jumped to conclusion. [[User:Yoster10|Yoster10]] 20:01, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
:Since you're now in a state of infuriating denial, I will follow Jo's orders and leave this to her--[[User:SandmanDP|SandmanDP]] 20:05, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
@Jo The Marten i looked at the link you put and i do not recall putting that in capital letters, if i did then that means i accentually done that because usually when i type the letter 'a' i accentually click the 'Cap Lock' button. [[User:Yoster10|Yoster10]] 20:07, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

@SandmanDP i am not in denial i am just stubborn. [[User:Yoster10|Yoster10]] 20:09, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
:Fair enough. You changed it, so it seemed you were aware of it at the time. But yeah, it comes down to: Mini-Dit isn't getting a page. Next time, check the notability requirements, and if you're still not sure, ask Kenji-girl. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 20:11, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
Ok then i shall end it then, i think i was drawing a blank then because i really do not remember doing capitals but seeing you have the evidence i will leave you alone then. Sorry for the trouble i have caused you. [[User:Yoster10|Yoster10]] 20:13, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

== General Pokemon B/W Question ==
Do Pokemon B/W games, or any other Pokemon games reset on their own once you have a certain number of hours on a game? I've heard that the maximum time that can be set in a saved file is 999:57. What happens when my game reaches that - does the time just reset, or will my saved game delete itself? [[User:Judgement|Judgement]] 01:43, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
:Nope. A few of my games have reached 999:59 and the time just stops. But it doesn't affect the gameplay at all.[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 02:04, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
Thank you [[User:Judgement|Judgement]] 20:36, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

==i'm confused==
Hi, I just made my Bulbapedia account, and I went to my homepage and it says you deleted my account. Could you tell me if you did and if so, why?
[[User:Chandelure1166|Carson]] 07:28, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
:I didn't delete your account. {{u|Crystal Talian}} accidentally put a welcome template on your userpage instead of your talkpage, and so I deleted your userpage after she fixed her mistake. You should still be able to create your page once you've done some work around the site, so it's not a big deal. You're not in any trouble or anything. Also, your signature should reflect your username in some way so people can immediately tell who they're talking to. For more info see the {{bp|Signature policy}}. Have a nice day. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 07:33, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
:Okay thanks!
[[User:Chandelure1166|Chandelure1166]] 08:35, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

== Curiosity Question ==

Hello. I wan to ask something. Can a regular user (like me) greet a "newcomer"? (sorry I forgot the correct term) If I can, may I?

P.S. if I posted it in the "wrong place", I'll give my apologies (I'm not used with "sophisticated" talkpages like yours :) I say its cool. :) )

--[[User:Harv13|This is Harv13]] 10:34, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
:We prefer that people who welcome new users are constructive users that have been around for a while, since it's likely the new user will go to whoever welcomed them for help and advice. But you fit that category well enough, so I don't see any reason why you can't welcome new users. Go right ahead. Just put <nowiki>{{subst:welcome}}</nowiki> on a new user's talk, or click on it in the toolbar below, and it'll come up with the welcome message. Though just so it's put on the table, if there's someone that registered a while ago, and they haven't been welcomed, make sure they weren't blocked for some reason. We don't welcome users that are blocked indefinitely. Also, I'll answer just about any general question to the best of my abilities, as will the rest of the admins (Junior, regular, senior). There's no need to feel intimidated. With all that in mind, have fun welcoming the new users. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 10:43, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

:: Ah, I see. Thanks for the answer. I'll try to do it once. (when there's one to welcome to. But maybe a little bit later.)
--[[User:Harv13|This is Harv13]] 10:49, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

== Black Tyranitar ==

Can I ask why you [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Black_Tyranitar&diff=1592129&oldid=1577060 altered the edit summary for this]? There wasnt any sort of copyright infringement involved. [[User:Vuvuzela2010|'''Vuvuzela2010''']][[Latios (Pokémon)| Δ ]] 01:12, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
:We're not supposed to link to Serebii or any other unreliable, or unofficial site as reference. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 01:20, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

==HEY!==
Not that you can capture tornadus pre-ending. Somebody did it. Of course you don't know cause you have completed the game.--My r6g4rdz, [[User:Mr-ex777|TEH GIGA-UBER-1337-HAX0R(Mr-ex777)]] 09:50, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
:Would you mind showing some form of proof? [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 09:55, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
::Never mind, I checked the official source. It says nothing about the pair being post-ending whereas it labels everything else that is post-ending. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 10:02, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

== Mrwhatever ==
has performed several vandalism-type edits, has not defended himself, and has not discussed his POVs on talk pages. He needs a block longer than 3 months.--[[User:Muk-a-matic|Muk-a-matic-Maketh the Muk go round...]] 09:05, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
:I wouldn't necessarily call his edits "vandal-like" from what I've seen. (Unless I'm missing something.) They just seem misguided, and while they should state their reasonings, I don't think it warrants a three month+ block. Help to drive them in the right direction, and if they disregard these advises, then we can think about a short block. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 09:14, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

== Kyurem EX ND 96 ==

Okay to replace the current photo with the english FA?

[[User:Bluefinancier|Bluefinancier]] 14:32, 29 January 2012 (UTC)bluefinancier
:You need to upload over the old file instead of simply uploading it as if it's a different file. You have to keep the naming standard for TCG card files. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 20:48, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

== AG068 ==

I wrote in AG068 "For the first time in the [[Pokemon_anime|Pokemon anime]], battle is lost due to trainer was unable to fight", you removed this addition.

And in which episode was it? I mean that the trainer is unable to battle, but does not refuse to continue it.
[[User:Rootaria|Rootaria]] 15:54, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
:I'd say in [[EP001]]; Pikachu is incapacitated by the Spearow, leaving Ash with no more Pokémon to use. If not that, then maybe one of the early Team Rocket battles (before they started blasting off), any of the gym battles Ash (or anyone else) lost, or even the Leagues. Needless to say, battles losing by running out of usable Pokémon are fairly common place material. I don't think we should really point it out, anyway. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 16:01, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

It's usual situation when the trainer has left no Pokemon and so couldn't continue the battle.
In AG068 Ash was hit by Ember and fell into a swoon although his Pokemon (Taillow) was '''not''' hurt. That's why he lose the battle with May and this situation is unusual. What do you think about it?

[[User:Rootaria|Rootaria]] 16:42, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

== Android Question ==

Well, as I've been looking around, I haven't been able to find any kind of android app based on the fantastic content on this site. I was wonder, is there an app in development? And if there is, is there any way I might be able to assist with the process? If not, I would be more than happy to volunteer to develop such an app. --[[User:Lord Pent|Lord Pent]] 20:30, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
:No, I do not believe anyone is making an app for Bulbapedia. If I recall, I think it would be illegal since no one here owns Pokémon? But I could be wrong. If you like, [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/f195/suggestions-ideas-problems-39604/ bring it up here] and see what someone else says. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 20:38, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
::We were looking into working with the creators of one of the Pokedex apps to create one when Nintendo issued cease and desist notices to the creators of all Pokedex/similar apps. Basically, Nintendo has made their stance clear - they draw the line between fansites and apps. Thus there will not be a Bulbapedia app created for either android or ipod/iphone in the near future. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 07:40, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

==Rarity==
its not unkown that is why im changing it to rare because i can find 5 in 5 min - {{unsigned|Pokemonlover91}}

== Nimbasa City ==

Um can I please know why you erased the photo I put? {{unsigned|MaidensGhost}}
:Because cities featured in the main series must have an in-game screenshot in their infobox. Anime screenshots belong in the "In the anime" section. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 02:25, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Ok thanks for explaining. ([[User:MaidensGhost|ღMaidensGhostღ]] 04:24, 8 February 2012 (UTC))

== How did it happen! ==

Hi! I'm new to bulbapedia.I recently expanded an article using another article's info and it got deleted.Was I doing something wrong or is someone playing a prank on me?

--[[User:Littleroot leader shravan(ability leader)|Shravs]] 13:13, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
:If you're referring to your addition to [[International Police]], it's because it didn't meet Bulbapedia's quality expectations. Your addition was mostly focused on the character, [[Looker]], and not the International Police as a whole. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 13:17, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
May I know how to put pics,please!

--Shravs [[User talk:Littleroot leader shravan(ability leader)|(New Bark Gym)]] 14:27, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

== Delete Image? ==

{{redlink|File:Coronet1.png}} {{img|Mt_Coronet_south.png}}

Guess what image needs deleting? Don't worry! I already checked to see if other pages link to that old file and made the correct revisions. --[[User:Wildgoosespeeder|Wildgoosespeeder]] 22:40, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
:Deleted. Though next time, just put a <nowiki>{{delete}}</nowiki> on the image summary. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 01:50, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
::OK then. I'll make sure to place <nowiki>{{delete}}</nowiki> next time. I think I tried using that template once and got a very delayed response. --[[User:Wildgoosespeeder|Wildgoosespeeder]] 02:04, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

== Another Pokemon merchandise page? ==

Would it be alright to make a new one? Got a book today called "The Art of: Pokémon The First Movie". Was wondering if that would be worth making a page on as well? [[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen Fennec]] 22:00, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
:Sure. I think any official book is worth a page. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 22:03, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
::Alright then. Will try to get the cover image of it too. Thanks for permission again. [[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen Fennec]] 22:04, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
:::If you know the {{wp|ISBN}} code, you should be able to find the book online and get a cover image that way. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 22:08, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

== Submit Image ==

Good evening administrator!
I would like to submit an image which is related to [[AG173|All That Glitters is Not Golden!]].
Specifically it is related to this error:When everyone fled into Keenan's house for the first time, the golden Sudowoodo appeared on the screen for a split second. The golden Sudowoodo wasn't with them at this point.
Here is the link:http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/703/sudowoodoerror.png/

19:52:27,14 February 2012 (UTC) DJ Wolfy
:The bottom right corner is all smudged like someone tried to cover up a watermark, poorly. So get an image without a watermark, then upload it [[a:Special:Upload|here]] with all the proper licensing and categorization. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 20:03, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Sorry I can't upload it due to this:The action you have requested is limited to users in one of the groups: Bots, Administrators, Bureaucrats, emailconfirmed, Senior Administrators, Editorial Board, Technical staff.
Return to Main Page.

I couldn't find a non-watermarked image so I cut it down.
Here is the link again:http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/210/sudowoodoerror.png/

P.S. - What is the code for writing in blue text ?

--'''DJWolfy''' 20:11, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
:I checked. It seems you're not even registered. There are separate registrations between Bulbapedia and the Archives. So just because you have an account on Bulbapedia doesn't mean you have an account on the Archives, and vice versa. While we'd prefer the images weren't cropped just to hide a watermark, it's better than nothing...

:Also, <nowiki>This code will make blue text.</nowiki> This code will make blue text. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 20:18, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Thank you!
Well it seems I can log onto Archives using my Bulbapedia account.Does that mean I am registered on Archives?
--DJWolfy. 20:22, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
:Oh, yes. It's been a looooong time since I registered so it slipped my mind...so yeah, it's global. Same can be done with Bulbanews. Also, be sure to link to your page or talk page in your signature. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 20:31, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Well,I don't have my personal page,but if you would show me a link with all or some of the templates maybe I'll make my personal page,since I don't want it to be plain.
--'''DJWolfy'''. 20:35, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

== Sorry ==
Sorry for using my userspace too much. Do you forgive me? [[User:LMFS|LMFS]] 03:04, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
Oh, I am also sorry for all the other stuff I did. I am new (kind of) to Bulbapedia [[User:LMFS|LMFS]] 03:18, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

== His edits ==

You might want to do something about {{tt|this user|MrMarpinjo62}} as he keeps on making useless edits despite multiple warnings. [[User:Pattyman|Patty]][[User talk:Pattyman|Man]] 20:20, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
Can you tell me which user please? [[User:LMFS|LMFS]] 01:58, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

==SandmanDP==
Hi Jo, I'm coming to you because you're the latest admin who's made an edit on my watchlist. ^-^; SandmanDP is repeatedly reverting edits, and not listening to order, even removing my comments on his talk page and saying that I was spamming and harrasing him. Can you please do something about it? He isn't listening to reason. ^-^; [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 16:14, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
:Jo, she went against the leader of Project Anime and defied intervention to continue the edit war. Vuvu even tried to stop her but obviously was not available. I had every right to revert her for ignoring two talkpages--[[User:SandmanDP|SandmanDP]] 16:17, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
::I'm killing this argument before it even begins. Drop this for right now, both of you. I'll share this with the other admins later when they get online, and we'll investigate what's going on and reach a consensus. For now, both of you either take a break from the internet, or try to avoid each other. Just please do not get in an argument on my talk page. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 16:21, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

== "Cooling down" ==

Not saying your edit summary is involved, because it isn't, but how many times does the newbie have to be bullied before the bullies are finally punished?--[[User:SandmanDP|SandmanDP]] 18:03, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
:First off: I'm going to answer your question bluntly and honestly, and I don't want to get into an argument with you. If you don't like what I have to say, fine, but you came to me and asked me, so I'm going to be honest. We all clear? Okay.
:{| width="100%" class="expandable" |
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| So far, I've yet to see any real harassment towards you. What I do see is you jumping down people's throats and acting too hasty. The issue is that you tend [http://www.thefreedictionary.com/antagonize antagonize] people who are just trying to have a civil conversation. When you do this, you start feeling like everyone is against you and you do basically what you're doing now. Warring, arguing, and reports fly everywhere because everyone feels like they're a victim. Let me just say this as clearly as I can: <div style="text-decoration:blink"><big><big><big><big>No one is out to get you.</big></big></big></big></div>
You need to take the time to stop, breathe, calm down, and think logically about what the person is trying to tell you. I assure you, no one takes pleasure in picking on you. In fact, most of us would rather do something else than spend hours arguing with someone. So I'll tell you once again: Take a break and relax. The site isn't going anywhere. I promise you'll live if you just back off for an hour or two.
|}
:[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 18:27, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

== Gotta Catch 'Em All Event Question ==
There was over 30 (possibly 40+) Gotta Catch 'Em All events distributed in Japan for the GBA games. I was wondering if there should be separate list dedicated (new page) to just these events (similar to the 10th Anniversary and Jeremy). There was 5 different distributions, with each one containing different Pokémon. Each Pokémon had the OT of フクオカ, オ-サカ, ナゴヤ, サッポロ, トウキョ- or ヨコハマ depending of the Pokémon Center it was obtained from. Do you think a new page should be created just for the Gotta Catch 'Em All events? --[[User:Lady Ariel|Lady Ariel]] 22:16, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

== EP 149 ==

Good afternoon!
I managed to complete the synopsis for [[EP149]].I think it is safe now to remove the incomplete synopsis template.On another notice, the image I've sent for [[AG173]] wasn't added.Will it be ?--[[User:DJWolfy|--'''DJ''']][[User talk:DJWolfy|'''Wolfy''']] 11:49, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

== admin ==

--[[User:Saumya 1234|S.M]] 09:58, 24 February 2012 (UTC)please make me the admin i will try my best to do in this website.
:No. Firstly, you need experience to become an admin. You also can't ''ask'' to be an admin. See: {{bp|FAQ#How do I become an admin?|this section.}} Secondly, you came to the wrong person. I can't promote or demote anybody. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 17:54, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

== Pokémon Rumble Blast moves ==

The thing about Pokémon Rumble Blast moves is that it's not just "Attack. Attack. Attack." but there's position, direction, etc. Plus there is a damage rating in ☆s or {{color|F8D030|★}}s. But yes, I will leave moves like {{m|Barrier}} untouched...
——{{u|Pokéglare|Po}}{{ut|Pokéglare|ké}}[[Special:Contributions/Pokéglare|glare]]

== Meowth in Pokémon Apokélypse ==

I would've asked somebody else, but I couldn't find anybody so I turned to you. Meowth in [[Pokémon Apokélypse]] did not have a voice that was shown in the trailer, I would understand why it's on the cast list, but can I add some reference to him not having any speaking lines? [[User:Pokedex493|Pokedex493]] 05:16, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
:Just put N/A next to his name. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 05:29, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
::Okay thanks. [[User:Pokedex493|Pokedex493]] 05:31, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

== PokéPark 2 ==

Seeing as you are creating and updating articles for that game would you mind writing in the info on the back of the game case [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_games here]]. Would be nice. Almost wrote in the Pokémon Puzzle Challenge one but the only image I could find was small and there was camera glare all over it making reading it impossible. :( ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 20:31, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

== Usertags ==

Asked this on Knji-Girl's page without knowing she's one of the main admins. :( Was wondering if redirects count as edits to the mainspace and if so did I do enough to warrant the use of any edit milestone tags? If I haven't earned them then that is OK with me. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 04:42, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
:Eh, they're nice, but not a huge deal. They don't count towards the [[TCM]] either. We prefer milestone tags be used for TCM-qualifying edits. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 05:07, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
::Alright, thanks for letting me know. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 05:10, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

== My Edits ==

Have I done better with my edits?[[User:LMFS|LMFS]] 05:12, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
:No. No you have not. You've made three edits, all of which were almost immediately undone. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 05:19, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
Okay, can you come to my talkpage and discuss it with me?[[User:LMFS|LMFS]] 04:43, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
I must disagree, I did edits but others corrected my grammar mistakes & mistakes in general and made it understandable.[[User:LMFS|LMFS]] 04:34, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
== Sandman0721 ==

I just welcomed this new user, Sandman0721, but I have a sneeking suspicion about this user. It's similar to SandmanDP, who we know got into feuds with practically everyone (even me), and was blocked for about 2 months by [[User:MAGNEDETH|MAGNEDETH]]. Anyway, my suspicion is that this new user might be a sockpuppet of SandmanDP, as a loophole from the block. You might want to check Sandman0721's background (confirm his identity). Thanks! [[User:Satoshi101|サトシ]] 23:13, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
:I've investigated and found the IPs do not match. The term "sandman" is a popular term so it's not unlikely that more than one person might use this title. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 23:39, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

== Usertag boxes? ==

Was wondering if it would be alright if I redid my usertags section to being similar to {{tt|yours|not the same exact usertags though}}. As in similar in design. Would this be ok with you? ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 00:27, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
:You can use it as a base, but be sure to make it unique to you. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 00:36, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
::Will do. Thank you for giving me permission. :) ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 00:36, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

== VANDAL ==

{{u|Turtlesonturtles}}, quickly block him please!--[[User:Rsrdaman|'''×Rsr''']][[User_Talk:Rsrdaman|'''daman×''']] 01:24, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
:Nevermind, {{u|Masatoshi}} got him.--[[User:Rsrdaman|'''×Rsr''']][[User_Talk:Rsrdaman|'''daman×''']] 01:38, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

== important question from me ==

What is a speculation crackdown? [[User:Chomper4|Chomper4]] 17:17, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
:That's the protection reason used when the protection exists to prevent people making an article/adding info before it is officially confirmed. It's often used when we get information from a source which is known to be unreliable, although that isn't the only reason. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 20:37, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

== User Country ==

When you added the protection to the User:Country template in February, the same level of protection was [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Template:User_Country/List_of_countries&diff=1595053&oldid=1570079 accidentally added] to a related page, [[Template:User Country/List of countries]], though [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Special%3AWhatLinksHere&target=Template%3AUser+Country%2FList+of+countries&namespace= that page isnt linked to like the tempate is]. A Slovakian user wants to change the Slovakian tag I added to something more appropriate, but they are unable to do so because of the protection. Is it possible to unprotect that page, while keeping the template protected? '''X'''[[User:Vuvuzela2010|'''Vuvuzela2010''']]'''X''' 12:51, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

== Thanks :) ==

Hey, thanks for sticking up for me before. You have no idea how many times I'll write something and someone just deletes it, without explanation, even if it's true! :) ''[[User:Charlize de Rose|Charli]] [[User talk:Charlize de Rose|♥]]'' 05:52, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

== Uh... ==

I thought that jumping the gun was discouraged on this pedia. But looks like this doesn't apply to admins. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 10:24, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
:It's not jumping any guns. He is going to be a major character throughout the tournament, like Morrison, Tyson, Tobias, and many more. We know this for a fact. Like I said, if you disagree with something, ask '''before''' you take action. Additionally, if you don't agree with something someone did, don't be rude about it. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 11:00, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
::I thought that being a Wiki editor means that you can edit articles WITHOUT consulting everything. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 11:09, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
:::Just think I should point out that I removed Harrison and Tyson from that template (for some reason, they were in the ''Rivals'' section) since they were only around for a small arc of episodes, and never appeared again after that. '''X'''[[User:Vuvuzela2010|'''Vuvuzela2010''']]'''X''' 11:15, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
::::This isn't simply adding or removing content from a page, it was deciding the classification of a character. The style is decided by the Heads of the various fields of the franchise. So yes, you are allowed to edit whatever without having to ask, but if it has to do with something major to a project, you need to bring it up with the Head of that section or project. They are in charge of the movement of that field, and they look over the work that is done and make major decisions. As such, they ''always'' have a good reason to do something, and their opinion should be respected. If you disagree, you may bring it up with them (Third time). That's democracy, and before you say it's unfair, this is how most governments work. It's similar to the {{wp|Cabinet (government)|Cabinet}} in government being in charge of various fields of the economy. They're in charge of making the big decisions that they feel are best for the economy, and the citizens. If you disagree, you're allowed to voice your opinion to them. But to go against them without due process could get you arrested. I fail to see how this is any different. If you're still confused, then it can't be helped. But I feel I've explained it to the best of my abilities. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 11:53, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

== Time display at the top of your talkpage ==

Hi,

May I have your permission to take the time display markup you have at the top of your talk page for my own page? I'll only take the markup for the hour, minute, whether it's AM or PM and the purge link. Is that all right with you? Thanks for your time and have a nice weekend! Cheers, [[User:Haxorus|'''Hax''']][[User talk:Haxorus|'''or''']][[Special:MyContributions|'''us''']] 14:21, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
:Sure. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 22:43, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
::Thanks! Enjoy your weekend. :-) Cheers, [[User:Haxorus|'''Hax''']][[User talk:Haxorus|'''or''']][[Special:MyContributions|'''us''']] 04:02, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

==Can you explain something for me?==
So I can only make 3 edits total to any pages that start with User:then my username? Is there a restriction on talk pages? I was just wondering. [[User:Pringles|Pringles]] 20:09, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
:I think it depends. If you're making personal edits to your talk, like giving it its own style, I think it should count towards userspace edits. But if you're just responding to messages, then no, it shouldn't count. There is sort of a talk page restriction, but it's only if you edit nothing except talk pages for unnecessarily long periods of time. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 23:42, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

Okay, thanks.[[User:Pringles|Pringles]] 00:51, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

== Just askin' ==

I'm just asking since you're a staff member, how do I change the size of a file? Chowolun 20:32, 3 April 2012 (UTC) [[User:Lucario985]]
:On a page? Just change then number: <nowiIki>[[File:None.png|</nowiki>'''200px'''<nowiki>]]</nowiki> Before you upload it? You'll need image editing software. Some versions of Paint let you edit size somewhat cleanly, but more expansive ones like Photoshop are better. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 20:38, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

== Some more help ==

As you responded to my question to ForceFire, I thought you may be able to help me with something else. You said I need to edit around the site for a bit. I presumed this meant mainspace however since walkthroughs are my favourite thing to edit and they are not like userpages (the are partially encyclopaedic), do they count in the 'editing around the site' that you mentioned. [[User:MajesticRayquaza|''Majestic'']][[User talk:MajesticRayquaza|'''Rayquaza''']] 10:58, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
:Sure do. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 12:48, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
:Edit: Actually, while Appendix edits do count, don't completely ignore the main-mainspace either. :P Main-Mainspace >>> Appendix [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 13:40, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

== The +/- numbers on the contribution pages ==

What does the +/- number stat mean on the Contributions page? [[User:G50|G50]] 02:24, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
:It's the number of characters added/removed from the page during that edit. I'm not entirely sure what the bold is for, though. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 02:53, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
::I believe bold is for additions/subtractions of 500 or more characters. - [[User:Poikins|'''poi''']][[User talk:Poikins|'''kins''']] 02:55, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

== [[User:Marked +-+-+/Types color coding|Types' colors]] ==

Didn't had anything to do, so I started this (and planning to do this with Stadium, RSE, FRLG, and both PMD; rest will need help). Not sure if this could be useful to mainspace. Oh, and Stadium 2 colors can be bit off, it's hard to pick the right color (in Paint I see that icon and text are in many shades of their colors). [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] 17:57, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

==Hello!==
This pic is good for [[Lyra (anime)]]??
:http://www.netupload.org/files/2tx2tfj0pbf3zwi2t0cb.png
--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] 01:23 - 10 April 2012 (UTC)
:No. It's very blurry and poorly cropped. Plus she's missing her feet. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 01:28, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

== IRC ==

Hi Jo, I was wondering if you knew the name of Bulbapedia's IRC channel? I know there's a direct link to it in the side navbar, but my laptop doesn't seem to recognise <code>irc://</code> as a web address, and I can't find the name anywhere else. D: [[User:Ronan|'''Ronan''']] 10:16, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
:I know there's one called #bulbagarden, but that is general for the whole of Bulbagarden (The wiki, archives, news, and forums), then there should be #bulbapedia. I can't say for sure how many people will be there though. Not many of our staff use irc. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 10:33, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
::Ah, okay. Thanks. [[User:Ronan|'''Ronan''']] 10:55, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
:::There is the #bulbapedia channel on the IRC.[[User:G50|태권도]] [[User_talk:G50|합기도]] 10:58, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
::::Yes, I just said that. But none of the staff really go there. The only one that might is {{u|Masatoshi}}. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 11:00, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

==Rumble==

I was wondering if I could tweak the rumble location sections for kanto/sin oh pokemon? For instance, instead of just putting "fiery furnace" for flareon's rumble section, could i put "fiery furnace normal mode s"? It saves a lot of user's time, as they won't have to search thru a ton of pages to find the game location. It'll also give me something to do. I'm not sure if rumble blast could be the same, but I'm glad to do it for that too.[[User:Pringles|Pringles]] 21:16, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
:Something like that would be good. But Rumble Blast is all taken care of. There shouldn't be anything needing done for that. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 23:44, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

== keldeo ==

the old pic for keldeo in the anime was bad so i changed it but why did you change it back?--[[User:Poke1|Poke1]] 00:10, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

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* '''Please use English.''' It's not that I'm against other languages, it's just...how am I suppose to respond when I don't know what you said?
* '''Please do not respond for me.''' I don't mind people tacking on their own questions to a discussion that's already been made, even before I have the chance to answer the initial post. But when someone personally has come here to ask ''me'' a question, don't answer for me. And if someone has answered for me, please don't take their word for my own. I can guarantee you that almost no one on this site knows me as well as I do. If you want ''my'' opinion, you wait for ''my'' response. [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jo_The_Marten&action=edit&section=new Leave new messages at the '''bottom''' of this page.]
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== Eevee brothers ==

Mikey is actually an eevee brother because at the end of the episode one of them say to him they are truely the eevee brothers. {{unsigned|Yoster10}}
:I know. But he also has his own page [[Mikey|here]] while his brothers only share a [[Eevee brothers|collective page]]. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 23:09, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
Ok then fair enough, but dont you think he should be on the page. {{unsigned|Yoster10}}
:Mikey is mentioned on the page, but it also links to his main article. It's like when a Pokémon has an article. We link to their article, not to their table on their trainer's page. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 23:21, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
This is a bit of a wierd question and you will probably say no but do you have any legendaries you are willing to trade for non-legendaries because on monday i am getting the final Pokémon i need to obtain all non-legendaries so i need just 8 legendaries left which are: [[Mew]], [[Celebi]], [[Jirachi]], [[Deoxys]], [[Darkrai]], [[Keldeo]], [[Meloetta]] and [[Genesect]]. {{unsigned|Yoster10}}
:I don't own a Keldeo, Meloette, or Genesect, and I'm not interested in trading any of my others. Plus I've had issues with wi-fi lately. Sorry. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 01:21, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
It's ok i was just wondering. [[User:Yoster10|Yoster10]] 13:11, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

== Orange Islands Who's That Pokemon? ==
Do you also need me to obtain the images for the English Who's That Pokemon? from the Orange Islands saga? Since I also have that whole box set as well. I am almost done with the Pokemon Master Quest, since I am going to work on the second box set today. --[[User:Lady Ariel|Lady Ariel]] 17:59, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
:Sure, that'd be fine. [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=File:WTP_EP026.png&action=edit Just be sure to use this for the summary] when you upload (and of course change everything accordingly). Thanks again for all your help. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 18:05, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

== User Page ==

On your user page it shows Pokémon in circles at the top how could i do that please if it is ok for me to do. [[User:Yoster10|Yoster10]] 18:33, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
:You can use it as a base, but try to add your own unique twist to it. Here's a base code with nothing in it:

<pre>{| width="64px" height="64px" align="center" style="{{roundy|80px}}; border: 5px solid #000000; background: #FFFFFF;"
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[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 18:39, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Cheers. [[User:Yoster10|Yoster10]] 18:42, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
I tried to put in a picture and i put down smaller sizes but when i added the picture this happened.

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Do you know how i can make it smaller and take off the rectangles at the bottom and top. [[User:Yoster10|Yoster10]] 19:14, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
:Those rectangles are your border. I've made the image smaller for you. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 19:26, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
What about the extra space at the bottom can that be taken off by any chance. [[User:Yoster10|Yoster10]] 19:34, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
:Did you only want one circle? I was under the impression you wanted the whole circle with four Pokémon. In that case, I've edited the code accordingly. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 19:40, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for that you are a big help. [[User:Yoster10|Yoster10]] 19:45, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

== Watchlist. ==

When i go onto my watchlist i see numbers such as (+249) and (-59), what does this mean? [[User:Yoster10|Yoster10]] 21:19, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
:That's the number of {{wp|Byte|bytes}} have been added/removed in the edit. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 21:21, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
Ok, thank you. [[User:Yoster10|Yoster10]] 21:22, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

== Whoops ==

I somehow managed to put a welcome template on a {{u|Rozi|user's page}} instead of their talk page. Since you're an admin, would you mind fixing it for me? --[[User:Darth Zekrom|'''Darth''']] [[User talk:Darth Zekrom|'''Zekrom''']] 02:03, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
:All fixed. Have a nice evening.[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 02:45, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

== Template: MftE ==

Just a minor thing: Trom didn't change his Haunter to a Winter Sawsbuck in the permitted editors list on the page...--[[User:SandmanDP|SandmanDP]] 02:34, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
:That's because he only did it so it'd match the winter-themed main page back during December. He's still represented by a Haunter. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 02:37, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
::Oops, my mistake. I forgot how long it's been since it was updated...--[[User:SandmanDP|SandmanDP]] 02:45, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

== Spellcheck ==

Just letting you know, because of my less than good spelling, I've given others permission to fix them [[User:05308|Diamond]] [[Lanturn (Pokémon)|Lanturn]] [[User talk:05308|CodeName: 05308]] 09:37, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

== Page. ==

There was no content on the page because i was creating it, could you please undo your deletion please. if you cannot i will just recreate it and add the content. [[User:Yoster10|Yoster10]] 19:07, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

Do not threaten an administrator. By the way, the page was previously here [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Mini-Dit&diff=prev&oldid=534358] but was redirected over three years ago--[[User:SandmanDP|SandmanDP]] 19:11, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
:@Yoster: I won't restore it, and if you make it again, I will protect it from creation. If you look at [[Duplica]]'s page, we can see that Mini-Dit barely has any content in its table. I think that's a tell-tale sign that it's simply not notable enough for its own page. The next time you start an article, give it more substance. Pages with just the infobox and opening sentence will be deleted.
:@Sandman: Please don't butt into a conversation you're not a part of, or respond for me. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 19:14, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
::Other users do it all the time on behalf of the intended user. I was only trying to help. . PS you may wanna protect this too[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Mini-Dit&redirect=no]--[[User:SandmanDP|SandmanDP]] 19:18, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
I was not being threatening, if you are reffering to where i said 'i will just recreate it and add the content.' i meant that if you are unable to undo the deletion then i would not mind recreating. If i was being threatening then i would of said "if you do not undo your deletion then i will recreate it". I looked at that link and what i already done (including what you did not see) looked better so i suggest that you allow me to be able to do mine instead of that please.[[User:Yoster10|Yoster10]] 19:19, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
:It was still said threateningly. Just because you meant it that way doesn't mean the original connotation changed back to your intention--[[User:SandmanDP|SandmanDP]] 19:24, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
Ok then i phrased it wrong, but that does not mean i am threatening him. [[User:Yoster10|Yoster10]] 19:26, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
:@Sandman: That's the user's decision, but if it's on a staff member's page, leave it to the staff member to respond.
:@Yoster10: When users use all capital letters, it is seen as shouting, and in turn makes it sound rude. I'll leave it to the {{u|Kenji-girl|anime head}} to decide if it's notable or not. But considering it doesn't meet the {{bp|Notability requirements/Anime Pokémon|notablility requirements}}, I doubt it will be made into a page. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 19:29, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
::Mini-Dit actually had a page at one point, but it was deemed unnotable and redirected in November 2008. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[Special:Contributions/MAGNEDETH|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 19:32, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
I did not use all capital letters anywhere, i only use capital letters when i am starting a new sentence or writing a name or any other reason because that is proper-English-grammer.{{unsigned|Yoster10}}
:While that may be true, you basically said "If you don't do what I want I will defy you using alternative methods no matter what you say". That's pretty threatening--[[User:SandmanDP|SandmanDP]] 19:55, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
::@Yoster10: [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jo_The_Marten&diff=prev&oldid=1586091 Case in point.]
::@Sandman: Sandman, please, this is my talk page. I would really appreciate it if you'd leave the conversation. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 20:01, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
I never said that in any sort, what i basically said was "if you cannot undo it then i do not mind recreating it." Please just look at what i said carefully because i think you and Jo The Marten have looked at what i said in the wrong way and jumped to conclusion. [[User:Yoster10|Yoster10]] 20:01, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
:Since you're now in a state of infuriating denial, I will follow Jo's orders and leave this to her--[[User:SandmanDP|SandmanDP]] 20:05, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
@Jo The Marten i looked at the link you put and i do not recall putting that in capital letters, if i did then that means i accentually done that because usually when i type the letter 'a' i accentually click the 'Cap Lock' button. [[User:Yoster10|Yoster10]] 20:07, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

@SandmanDP i am not in denial i am just stubborn. [[User:Yoster10|Yoster10]] 20:09, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
:Fair enough. You changed it, so it seemed you were aware of it at the time. But yeah, it comes down to: Mini-Dit isn't getting a page. Next time, check the notability requirements, and if you're still not sure, ask Kenji-girl. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 20:11, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
Ok then i shall end it then, i think i was drawing a blank then because i really do not remember doing capitals but seeing you have the evidence i will leave you alone then. Sorry for the trouble i have caused you. [[User:Yoster10|Yoster10]] 20:13, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

== General Pokemon B/W Question ==
Do Pokemon B/W games, or any other Pokemon games reset on their own once you have a certain number of hours on a game? I've heard that the maximum time that can be set in a saved file is 999:57. What happens when my game reaches that - does the time just reset, or will my saved game delete itself? [[User:Judgement|Judgement]] 01:43, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
:Nope. A few of my games have reached 999:59 and the time just stops. But it doesn't affect the gameplay at all.[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 02:04, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
Thank you [[User:Judgement|Judgement]] 20:36, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

==i'm confused==
Hi, I just made my Bulbapedia account, and I went to my homepage and it says you deleted my account. Could you tell me if you did and if so, why?
[[User:Chandelure1166|Carson]] 07:28, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
:I didn't delete your account. {{u|Crystal Talian}} accidentally put a welcome template on your userpage instead of your talkpage, and so I deleted your userpage after she fixed her mistake. You should still be able to create your page once you've done some work around the site, so it's not a big deal. You're not in any trouble or anything. Also, your signature should reflect your username in some way so people can immediately tell who they're talking to. For more info see the {{bp|Signature policy}}. Have a nice day. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 07:33, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
:Okay thanks!
[[User:Chandelure1166|Chandelure1166]] 08:35, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

== Curiosity Question ==

Hello. I wan to ask something. Can a regular user (like me) greet a "newcomer"? (sorry I forgot the correct term) If I can, may I?

P.S. if I posted it in the "wrong place", I'll give my apologies (I'm not used with "sophisticated" talkpages like yours :) I say its cool. :) )

--[[User:Harv13|This is Harv13]] 10:34, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
:We prefer that people who welcome new users are constructive users that have been around for a while, since it's likely the new user will go to whoever welcomed them for help and advice. But you fit that category well enough, so I don't see any reason why you can't welcome new users. Go right ahead. Just put <nowiki>{{subst:welcome}}</nowiki> on a new user's talk, or click on it in the toolbar below, and it'll come up with the welcome message. Though just so it's put on the table, if there's someone that registered a while ago, and they haven't been welcomed, make sure they weren't blocked for some reason. We don't welcome users that are blocked indefinitely. Also, I'll answer just about any general question to the best of my abilities, as will the rest of the admins (Junior, regular, senior). There's no need to feel intimidated. With all that in mind, have fun welcoming the new users. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 10:43, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

:: Ah, I see. Thanks for the answer. I'll try to do it once. (when there's one to welcome to. But maybe a little bit later.)
--[[User:Harv13|This is Harv13]] 10:49, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

== Black Tyranitar ==

Can I ask why you [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Black_Tyranitar&diff=1592129&oldid=1577060 altered the edit summary for this]? There wasnt any sort of copyright infringement involved. [[User:Vuvuzela2010|'''Vuvuzela2010''']][[Latios (Pokémon)| Δ ]] 01:12, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
:We're not supposed to link to Serebii or any other unreliable, or unofficial site as reference. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 01:20, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

==HEY!==
Not that you can capture tornadus pre-ending. Somebody did it. Of course you don't know cause you have completed the game.--My r6g4rdz, [[User:Mr-ex777|TEH GIGA-UBER-1337-HAX0R(Mr-ex777)]] 09:50, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
:Would you mind showing some form of proof? [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 09:55, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
::Never mind, I checked the official source. It says nothing about the pair being post-ending whereas it labels everything else that is post-ending. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 10:02, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

== Mrwhatever ==
has performed several vandalism-type edits, has not defended himself, and has not discussed his POVs on talk pages. He needs a block longer than 3 months.--[[User:Muk-a-matic|Muk-a-matic-Maketh the Muk go round...]] 09:05, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
:I wouldn't necessarily call his edits "vandal-like" from what I've seen. (Unless I'm missing something.) They just seem misguided, and while they should state their reasonings, I don't think it warrants a three month+ block. Help to drive them in the right direction, and if they disregard these advises, then we can think about a short block. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 09:14, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

== Kyurem EX ND 96 ==

Okay to replace the current photo with the english FA?

[[User:Bluefinancier|Bluefinancier]] 14:32, 29 January 2012 (UTC)bluefinancier
:You need to upload over the old file instead of simply uploading it as if it's a different file. You have to keep the naming standard for TCG card files. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 20:48, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

== AG068 ==

I wrote in AG068 "For the first time in the [[Pokemon_anime|Pokemon anime]], battle is lost due to trainer was unable to fight", you removed this addition.

And in which episode was it? I mean that the trainer is unable to battle, but does not refuse to continue it.
[[User:Rootaria|Rootaria]] 15:54, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
:I'd say in [[EP001]]; Pikachu is incapacitated by the Spearow, leaving Ash with no more Pokémon to use. If not that, then maybe one of the early Team Rocket battles (before they started blasting off), any of the gym battles Ash (or anyone else) lost, or even the Leagues. Needless to say, battles losing by running out of usable Pokémon are fairly common place material. I don't think we should really point it out, anyway. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 16:01, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

It's usual situation when the trainer has left no Pokemon and so couldn't continue the battle.
In AG068 Ash was hit by Ember and fell into a swoon although his Pokemon (Taillow) was '''not''' hurt. That's why he lose the battle with May and this situation is unusual. What do you think about it?

[[User:Rootaria|Rootaria]] 16:42, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

== Android Question ==

Well, as I've been looking around, I haven't been able to find any kind of android app based on the fantastic content on this site. I was wonder, is there an app in development? And if there is, is there any way I might be able to assist with the process? If not, I would be more than happy to volunteer to develop such an app. --[[User:Lord Pent|Lord Pent]] 20:30, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
:No, I do not believe anyone is making an app for Bulbapedia. If I recall, I think it would be illegal since no one here owns Pokémon? But I could be wrong. If you like, [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/f195/suggestions-ideas-problems-39604/ bring it up here] and see what someone else says. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 20:38, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
::We were looking into working with the creators of one of the Pokedex apps to create one when Nintendo issued cease and desist notices to the creators of all Pokedex/similar apps. Basically, Nintendo has made their stance clear - they draw the line between fansites and apps. Thus there will not be a Bulbapedia app created for either android or ipod/iphone in the near future. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 07:40, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

==Rarity==
its not unkown that is why im changing it to rare because i can find 5 in 5 min - {{unsigned|Pokemonlover91}}

== Nimbasa City ==

Um can I please know why you erased the photo I put? {{unsigned|MaidensGhost}}
:Because cities featured in the main series must have an in-game screenshot in their infobox. Anime screenshots belong in the "In the anime" section. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 02:25, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Ok thanks for explaining. ([[User:MaidensGhost|ღMaidensGhostღ]] 04:24, 8 February 2012 (UTC))

== How did it happen! ==

Hi! I'm new to bulbapedia.I recently expanded an article using another article's info and it got deleted.Was I doing something wrong or is someone playing a prank on me?

--[[User:Littleroot leader shravan(ability leader)|Shravs]] 13:13, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
:If you're referring to your addition to [[International Police]], it's because it didn't meet Bulbapedia's quality expectations. Your addition was mostly focused on the character, [[Looker]], and not the International Police as a whole. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 13:17, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
May I know how to put pics,please!

--Shravs [[User talk:Littleroot leader shravan(ability leader)|(New Bark Gym)]] 14:27, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

== Delete Image? ==

{{redlink|File:Coronet1.png}} {{img|Mt_Coronet_south.png}}

Guess what image needs deleting? Don't worry! I already checked to see if other pages link to that old file and made the correct revisions. --[[User:Wildgoosespeeder|Wildgoosespeeder]] 22:40, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
:Deleted. Though next time, just put a <nowiki>{{delete}}</nowiki> on the image summary. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 01:50, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
::OK then. I'll make sure to place <nowiki>{{delete}}</nowiki> next time. I think I tried using that template once and got a very delayed response. --[[User:Wildgoosespeeder|Wildgoosespeeder]] 02:04, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

== Another Pokemon merchandise page? ==

Would it be alright to make a new one? Got a book today called "The Art of: Pokémon The First Movie". Was wondering if that would be worth making a page on as well? [[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen Fennec]] 22:00, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
:Sure. I think any official book is worth a page. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 22:03, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
::Alright then. Will try to get the cover image of it too. Thanks for permission again. [[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen Fennec]] 22:04, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
:::If you know the {{wp|ISBN}} code, you should be able to find the book online and get a cover image that way. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 22:08, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

== Submit Image ==

Good evening administrator!
I would like to submit an image which is related to [[AG173|All That Glitters is Not Golden!]].
Specifically it is related to this error:When everyone fled into Keenan's house for the first time, the golden Sudowoodo appeared on the screen for a split second. The golden Sudowoodo wasn't with them at this point.
Here is the link:http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/703/sudowoodoerror.png/

19:52:27,14 February 2012 (UTC) DJ Wolfy
:The bottom right corner is all smudged like someone tried to cover up a watermark, poorly. So get an image without a watermark, then upload it [[a:Special:Upload|here]] with all the proper licensing and categorization. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 20:03, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Sorry I can't upload it due to this:The action you have requested is limited to users in one of the groups: Bots, Administrators, Bureaucrats, emailconfirmed, Senior Administrators, Editorial Board, Technical staff.
Return to Main Page.

I couldn't find a non-watermarked image so I cut it down.
Here is the link again:http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/210/sudowoodoerror.png/

P.S. - What is the code for writing in blue text ?

--'''DJWolfy''' 20:11, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
:I checked. It seems you're not even registered. There are separate registrations between Bulbapedia and the Archives. So just because you have an account on Bulbapedia doesn't mean you have an account on the Archives, and vice versa. While we'd prefer the images weren't cropped just to hide a watermark, it's better than nothing...

:Also, <nowiki>This code will make blue text.</nowiki> This code will make blue text. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 20:18, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Thank you!
Well it seems I can log onto Archives using my Bulbapedia account.Does that mean I am registered on Archives?
--DJWolfy. 20:22, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
:Oh, yes. It's been a looooong time since I registered so it slipped my mind...so yeah, it's global. Same can be done with Bulbanews. Also, be sure to link to your page or talk page in your signature. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 20:31, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Well,I don't have my personal page,but if you would show me a link with all or some of the templates maybe I'll make my personal page,since I don't want it to be plain.
--'''DJWolfy'''. 20:35, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

== Sorry ==
Sorry for using my userspace too much. Do you forgive me? [[User:LMFS|LMFS]] 03:04, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
Oh, I am also sorry for all the other stuff I did. I am new (kind of) to Bulbapedia [[User:LMFS|LMFS]] 03:18, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

== His edits ==

You might want to do something about {{tt|this user|MrMarpinjo62}} as he keeps on making useless edits despite multiple warnings. [[User:Pattyman|Patty]][[User talk:Pattyman|Man]] 20:20, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
Can you tell me which user please? [[User:LMFS|LMFS]] 01:58, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

==SandmanDP==
Hi Jo, I'm coming to you because you're the latest admin who's made an edit on my watchlist. ^-^; SandmanDP is repeatedly reverting edits, and not listening to order, even removing my comments on his talk page and saying that I was spamming and harrasing him. Can you please do something about it? He isn't listening to reason. ^-^; [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 16:14, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
:Jo, she went against the leader of Project Anime and defied intervention to continue the edit war. Vuvu even tried to stop her but obviously was not available. I had every right to revert her for ignoring two talkpages--[[User:SandmanDP|SandmanDP]] 16:17, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
::I'm killing this argument before it even begins. Drop this for right now, both of you. I'll share this with the other admins later when they get online, and we'll investigate what's going on and reach a consensus. For now, both of you either take a break from the internet, or try to avoid each other. Just please do not get in an argument on my talk page. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 16:21, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

== "Cooling down" ==

Not saying your edit summary is involved, because it isn't, but how many times does the newbie have to be bullied before the bullies are finally punished?--[[User:SandmanDP|SandmanDP]] 18:03, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
:First off: I'm going to answer your question bluntly and honestly, and I don't want to get into an argument with you. If you don't like what I have to say, fine, but you came to me and asked me, so I'm going to be honest. We all clear? Okay.
:{| width="100%" class="expandable" |
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| So far, I've yet to see any real harassment towards you. What I do see is you jumping down people's throats and acting too hasty. The issue is that you tend [http://www.thefreedictionary.com/antagonize antagonize] people who are just trying to have a civil conversation. When you do this, you start feeling like everyone is against you and you do basically what you're doing now. Warring, arguing, and reports fly everywhere because everyone feels like they're a victim. Let me just say this as clearly as I can: <div style="text-decoration:blink"><big><big><big><big>No one is out to get you.</big></big></big></big></div>
You need to take the time to stop, breathe, calm down, and think logically about what the person is trying to tell you. I assure you, no one takes pleasure in picking on you. In fact, most of us would rather do something else than spend hours arguing with someone. So I'll tell you once again: Take a break and relax. The site isn't going anywhere. I promise you'll live if you just back off for an hour or two.
|}
:[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 18:27, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

== Gotta Catch 'Em All Event Question ==
There was over 30 (possibly 40+) Gotta Catch 'Em All events distributed in Japan for the GBA games. I was wondering if there should be separate list dedicated (new page) to just these events (similar to the 10th Anniversary and Jeremy). There was 5 different distributions, with each one containing different Pokémon. Each Pokémon had the OT of フクオカ, オ-サカ, ナゴヤ, サッポロ, トウキョ- or ヨコハマ depending of the Pokémon Center it was obtained from. Do you think a new page should be created just for the Gotta Catch 'Em All events? --[[User:Lady Ariel|Lady Ariel]] 22:16, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

== EP 149 ==

Good afternoon!
I managed to complete the synopsis for [[EP149]].I think it is safe now to remove the incomplete synopsis template.On another notice, the image I've sent for [[AG173]] wasn't added.Will it be ?--[[User:DJWolfy|--'''DJ''']][[User talk:DJWolfy|'''Wolfy''']] 11:49, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

== admin ==

--[[User:Saumya 1234|S.M]] 09:58, 24 February 2012 (UTC)please make me the admin i will try my best to do in this website.
:No. Firstly, you need experience to become an admin. You also can't ''ask'' to be an admin. See: {{bp|FAQ#How do I become an admin?|this section.}} Secondly, you came to the wrong person. I can't promote or demote anybody. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 17:54, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

== Pokémon Rumble Blast moves ==

The thing about Pokémon Rumble Blast moves is that it's not just "Attack. Attack. Attack." but there's position, direction, etc. Plus there is a damage rating in ☆s or {{color|F8D030|★}}s. But yes, I will leave moves like {{m|Barrier}} untouched...
——{{u|Pokéglare|Po}}{{ut|Pokéglare|ké}}[[Special:Contributions/Pokéglare|glare]]

== Meowth in Pokémon Apokélypse ==

I would've asked somebody else, but I couldn't find anybody so I turned to you. Meowth in [[Pokémon Apokélypse]] did not have a voice that was shown in the trailer, I would understand why it's on the cast list, but can I add some reference to him not having any speaking lines? [[User:Pokedex493|Pokedex493]] 05:16, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
:Just put N/A next to his name. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 05:29, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
::Okay thanks. [[User:Pokedex493|Pokedex493]] 05:31, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

== PokéPark 2 ==

Seeing as you are creating and updating articles for that game would you mind writing in the info on the back of the game case [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_games here]]. Would be nice. Almost wrote in the Pokémon Puzzle Challenge one but the only image I could find was small and there was camera glare all over it making reading it impossible. :( ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 20:31, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

== Usertags ==

Asked this on Knji-Girl's page without knowing she's one of the main admins. :( Was wondering if redirects count as edits to the mainspace and if so did I do enough to warrant the use of any edit milestone tags? If I haven't earned them then that is OK with me. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 04:42, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
:Eh, they're nice, but not a huge deal. They don't count towards the [[TCM]] either. We prefer milestone tags be used for TCM-qualifying edits. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 05:07, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
::Alright, thanks for letting me know. ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 05:10, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

== My Edits ==

Have I done better with my edits?[[User:LMFS|LMFS]] 05:12, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
:No. No you have not. You've made three edits, all of which were almost immediately undone. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 05:19, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
Okay, can you come to my talkpage and discuss it with me?[[User:LMFS|LMFS]] 04:43, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
I must disagree, I did edits but others corrected my grammar mistakes & mistakes in general and made it understandable.[[User:LMFS|LMFS]] 04:34, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
== Sandman0721 ==

I just welcomed this new user, Sandman0721, but I have a sneeking suspicion about this user. It's similar to SandmanDP, who we know got into feuds with practically everyone (even me), and was blocked for about 2 months by [[User:MAGNEDETH|MAGNEDETH]]. Anyway, my suspicion is that this new user might be a sockpuppet of SandmanDP, as a loophole from the block. You might want to check Sandman0721's background (confirm his identity). Thanks! [[User:Satoshi101|サトシ]] 23:13, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
:I've investigated and found the IPs do not match. The term "sandman" is a popular term so it's not unlikely that more than one person might use this title. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 23:39, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

== Usertag boxes? ==

Was wondering if it would be alright if I redid my usertags section to being similar to {{tt|yours|not the same exact usertags though}}. As in similar in design. Would this be ok with you? ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 00:27, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
:You can use it as a base, but be sure to make it unique to you. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 00:36, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
::Will do. Thank you for giving me permission. :) ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 00:36, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

== VANDAL ==

{{u|Turtlesonturtles}}, quickly block him please!--[[User:Rsrdaman|'''×Rsr''']][[User_Talk:Rsrdaman|'''daman×''']] 01:24, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
:Nevermind, {{u|Masatoshi}} got him.--[[User:Rsrdaman|'''×Rsr''']][[User_Talk:Rsrdaman|'''daman×''']] 01:38, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

== important question from me ==

What is a speculation crackdown? [[User:Chomper4|Chomper4]] 17:17, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
:That's the protection reason used when the protection exists to prevent people making an article/adding info before it is officially confirmed. It's often used when we get information from a source which is known to be unreliable, although that isn't the only reason. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 20:37, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

== User Country ==

When you added the protection to the User:Country template in February, the same level of protection was [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Template:User_Country/List_of_countries&diff=1595053&oldid=1570079 accidentally added] to a related page, [[Template:User Country/List of countries]], though [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Special%3AWhatLinksHere&target=Template%3AUser+Country%2FList+of+countries&namespace= that page isnt linked to like the tempate is]. A Slovakian user wants to change the Slovakian tag I added to something more appropriate, but they are unable to do so because of the protection. Is it possible to unprotect that page, while keeping the template protected? '''X'''[[User:Vuvuzela2010|'''Vuvuzela2010''']]'''X''' 12:51, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

== Thanks :) ==

Hey, thanks for sticking up for me before. You have no idea how many times I'll write something and someone just deletes it, without explanation, even if it's true! :) ''[[User:Charlize de Rose|Charli]] [[User talk:Charlize de Rose|♥]]'' 05:52, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

== Uh... ==

I thought that jumping the gun was discouraged on this pedia. But looks like this doesn't apply to admins. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 10:24, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
:It's not jumping any guns. He is going to be a major character throughout the tournament, like Morrison, Tyson, Tobias, and many more. We know this for a fact. Like I said, if you disagree with something, ask '''before''' you take action. Additionally, if you don't agree with something someone did, don't be rude about it. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 11:00, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
::I thought that being a Wiki editor means that you can edit articles WITHOUT consulting everything. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 11:09, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
:::Just think I should point out that I removed Harrison and Tyson from that template (for some reason, they were in the ''Rivals'' section) since they were only around for a small arc of episodes, and never appeared again after that. '''X'''[[User:Vuvuzela2010|'''Vuvuzela2010''']]'''X''' 11:15, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
::::This isn't simply adding or removing content from a page, it was deciding the classification of a character. The style is decided by the Heads of the various fields of the franchise. So yes, you are allowed to edit whatever without having to ask, but if it has to do with something major to a project, you need to bring it up with the Head of that section or project. They are in charge of the movement of that field, and they look over the work that is done and make major decisions. As such, they ''always'' have a good reason to do something, and their opinion should be respected. If you disagree, you may bring it up with them (Third time). That's democracy, and before you say it's unfair, this is how most governments work. It's similar to the {{wp|Cabinet (government)|Cabinet}} in government being in charge of various fields of the economy. They're in charge of making the big decisions that they feel are best for the economy, and the citizens. If you disagree, you're allowed to voice your opinion to them. But to go against them without due process could get you arrested. I fail to see how this is any different. If you're still confused, then it can't be helped. But I feel I've explained it to the best of my abilities. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 11:53, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

== Time display at the top of your talkpage ==

Hi,

May I have your permission to take the time display markup you have at the top of your talk page for my own page? I'll only take the markup for the hour, minute, whether it's AM or PM and the purge link. Is that all right with you? Thanks for your time and have a nice weekend! Cheers, [[User:Haxorus|'''Hax''']][[User talk:Haxorus|'''or''']][[Special:MyContributions|'''us''']] 14:21, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
:Sure. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 22:43, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
::Thanks! Enjoy your weekend. :-) Cheers, [[User:Haxorus|'''Hax''']][[User talk:Haxorus|'''or''']][[Special:MyContributions|'''us''']] 04:02, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

==Can you explain something for me?==
So I can only make 3 edits total to any pages that start with User:then my username? Is there a restriction on talk pages? I was just wondering. [[User:Pringles|Pringles]] 20:09, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
:I think it depends. If you're making personal edits to your talk, like giving it its own style, I think it should count towards userspace edits. But if you're just responding to messages, then no, it shouldn't count. There is sort of a talk page restriction, but it's only if you edit nothing except talk pages for unnecessarily long periods of time. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 23:42, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

Okay, thanks.[[User:Pringles|Pringles]] 00:51, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

== Just askin' ==

I'm just asking since you're a staff member, how do I change the size of a file? Chowolun 20:32, 3 April 2012 (UTC) [[User:Lucario985]]
:On a page? Just change then number: <nowiIki>[[File:None.png|</nowiki>'''200px'''<nowiki>]]</nowiki> Before you upload it? You'll need image editing software. Some versions of Paint let you edit size somewhat cleanly, but more expansive ones like Photoshop are better. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 20:38, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

== Some more help ==

As you responded to my question to ForceFire, I thought you may be able to help me with something else. You said I need to edit around the site for a bit. I presumed this meant mainspace however since walkthroughs are my favourite thing to edit and they are not like userpages (the are partially encyclopaedic), do they count in the 'editing around the site' that you mentioned. [[User:MajesticRayquaza|''Majestic'']][[User talk:MajesticRayquaza|'''Rayquaza''']] 10:58, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
:Sure do. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 12:48, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
:Edit: Actually, while Appendix edits do count, don't completely ignore the main-mainspace either. :P Main-Mainspace >>> Appendix [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 13:40, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

== The +/- numbers on the contribution pages ==

What does the +/- number stat mean on the Contributions page? [[User:G50|G50]] 02:24, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
:It's the number of characters added/removed from the page during that edit. I'm not entirely sure what the bold is for, though. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 02:53, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
::I believe bold is for additions/subtractions of 500 or more characters. - [[User:Poikins|'''poi''']][[User talk:Poikins|'''kins''']] 02:55, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

== [[User:Marked +-+-+/Types color coding|Types' colors]] ==

Didn't had anything to do, so I started this (and planning to do this with Stadium, RSE, FRLG, and both PMD; rest will need help). Not sure if this could be useful to mainspace. Oh, and Stadium 2 colors can be bit off, it's hard to pick the right color (in Paint I see that icon and text are in many shades of their colors). [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] 17:57, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

==Hello!==
This pic is good for [[Lyra (anime)]]??
:http://www.netupload.org/files/2tx2tfj0pbf3zwi2t0cb.png
--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] 01:23 - 10 April 2012 (UTC)
:No. It's very blurry and poorly cropped. Plus she's missing her feet. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 01:28, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

== IRC ==

Hi Jo, I was wondering if you knew the name of Bulbapedia's IRC channel? I know there's a direct link to it in the side navbar, but my laptop doesn't seem to recognise <code>irc://</code> as a web address, and I can't find the name anywhere else. D: [[User:Ronan|'''Ronan''']] 10:16, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
:I know there's one called #bulbagarden, but that is general for the whole of Bulbagarden (The wiki, archives, news, and forums), then there should be #bulbapedia. I can't say for sure how many people will be there though. Not many of our staff use irc. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 10:33, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
::Ah, okay. Thanks. [[User:Ronan|'''Ronan''']] 10:55, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
:::There is the #bulbapedia channel on the IRC.[[User:G50|태권도]] [[User_talk:G50|합기도]] 10:58, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
::::Yes, I just said that. But none of the staff really go there. The only one that might is {{u|Masatoshi}}. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 11:00, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

==Rumble==

I was wondering if I could tweak the rumble location sections for kanto/sin oh pokemon? For instance, instead of just putting "fiery furnace" for flareon's rumble section, could i put "fiery furnace normal mode s"? It saves a lot of user's time, as they won't have to search thru a ton of pages to find the game location. It'll also give me something to do. I'm not sure if rumble blast could be the same, but I'm glad to do it for that too.[[User:Pringles|Pringles]] 21:16, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
:Something like that would be good. But Rumble Blast is all taken care of. There shouldn't be anything needing done for that. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 23:44, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

== keldeo ==

the old pic for keldeo in the anime was bad so i changed it but why did you ahnge it back?--[[User:Poke1|Poke1]] 00:10, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

Keldeo (Pokémon)

2012-04-14T00:06:06Z

Poke1: /* In the anime */

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'''Keldeo''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''ケルディオ''' ''Keldeo'') is a dual-type {{2t|Water|Fighting}} [[legendary Pokémon]].

It is not known to [[Evolution|evolve]] into or from any Pokémon.

It was first officially revealed on [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/info/2012/02/120215_g01.html?a001=news February 15, 2012], with a photo of a page from the [[CoroCoro]] magazine {{n|Keldeo to be revealed in upcoming CoroCoro|leaked}} just a few days before.

Along with {{p|Cobalion}}, {{p|Terrakion}}, and {{p|Virizion}}, Keldeo is a member of the [[legendary musketeers]].

==Biology==
===Physiology===
Keldeo is pony-like, with a large, feathery red mane, long, dark blue, ridged eyebrow-like features, and a single cream-colored horn that is slightly curved. The back of its head, as well as its neck, has light blue-and-white-spotted coloration with spiky edges at the lower portion. Its body is cream-colored, with blue hooves. Its blue-and-white-spotted, lifted and feathery tail is comparable to an elaborate feather in a cap.

====Gender differences====
Keldeo is a genderless species.

===Special abilities===
Keldeo has the ability to cross water by ejecting water from its hooves, similar to {{p|Suicune}}.

===Behavior===
Keldeo tends to run about the entire world, running on the surface of seas and rivers.

===Habitat===
Keldeo appears at beautiful watersides.

===Diet===
{{main|Pokémon food}}

==History==
Long ago, a fire started in the [[Moor of Icirrus]] because of a war among people. In this fire, Keldeo was separated from its parents, but together, {{p|Cobalion}}, {{p|Terrakion}}, and {{p|Virizion}} took care of Keldeo. They acted as its parents, and they taught it knowledge and moves for survival. Keldeo eventually grew and even surpassed the three Pokémon. One day, Keldeo took off from the forest with no one knowing why.

When the three meet again, they teach Keldeo the move {{m|Secret Sword}}.

==In the anime==
{{bad picture|section}}
[[File:Keldeo.png|thumb|250px|Keldeo in the anime]]
===Major appearances===
Keldeo will make its debut in the [[M15|fifteenth]] [[Pokémon movie]], being one of its stars along with {{p|Cobalion}}, {{p|Terrakion}}, {{p|Virizion}} and {{p|Kyurem}}.

===Minor appearances===

==In the manga==

==In the TCG==
{{main|Keldeo (TCG)}}

==Game data==

===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex
|type=Water
|type2=Fighting
|gen=5
|blackdex=By blasting water from its hooves, it can glide across water. It excels at using leg moves while battling.
|whitedex=It crosses the world, running over the surfaces of oceans and rivers. It appears at scenic waterfronts.
}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability|
type=Water|
type2=Fighting |
gen=5 |
gen5ex=none |
bwrarity=None|
bwarea=[[Event]]|
}}

====In side games====

===Held items===

===Stats===
====Base stats====
{{BaseStats|
type=Water|
type2=Fighting |
HP= 91 |
Attack= 72 |
Defense=90 |
SpAtk= 129 |
SpDef= 90 |
Speed= 108 }}

===Type effectiveness===
{{Type effectiveness|
type1=Water|
type2=Fighting|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting=100 |
Flying= 200 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 100 |
Rock= 50 |
Bug= 50 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 50 |

Fire= 50 |
Water= 50 |
Grass= 200 |
Electric=200 |
Psychic= 200 |
Ice= 50 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 50 |
}}

===Learnset===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{learnlist/levelh|Keldeo|Water|Fighting|5|5}}
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Aqua Jet|Water|Physical|40|100|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Leer|Normal|Status|—|100|30}}
{{learnlist/level5|7|Double Kick|Fighting|Physical|30|100|30||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|13|BubbleBeam|Water|Special|65|100|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|19|Take Down|Normal|Physical|90|85|20}}
{{learnlist/level5|25|Helping Hand|Normal|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/level5|31|Retaliate|Normal|Physical|70|100|5}}
{{learnlist/level5|37|Aqua Tail|Water|Physical|90|90|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|43|Sacred Sword|Fighting|Physical|90|100|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|49|Swords Dance|Normal|Status|—|—|30}}
{{learnlist/level5|55|Quick Guard|Fighting|Status|—|—|15}}
{{learnlist/level5|61|Work Up|Normal|Status|—|—|30}}
{{learnlist/level5|67|Hydro Pump|Water|Special|120|80|5||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|73|Close Combat|Fighting|Physical|120|100|5||'''}}
{{learnlist/levelf|Keldeo|Water|Fighting|5|5}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{learnlist/tmh|Keldeo|Water|Fighting|5|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM04|Calm Mind|Psychic|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM05|Roar|Normal|Status|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM06|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|90|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM07|Hail|Ice|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM10|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|—|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM12|Taunt|Dark|Status|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM15|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM17|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM18|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM20|Safeguard|Normal|Status|—|—|25}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM21|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM27|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM32|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM33|Reflect|Psychic|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM40|Aerial Ace|Flying|Physical|60|—|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM42|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM44|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM48|Round|Normal|Special|60|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM52|Focus Blast|Fighting|Special|120|70|5||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM54|False Swipe|Normal|Physical|40|100|40}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM55|Scald|Water|Special|80|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM67|Retaliate|Normal|Physical|70|100|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM68|Giga Impact|Normal|Physical|150|90|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM71|Stone Edge|Rock|Physical|100|80|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM75|Swords Dance|Normal|Status|—|—|30}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM77|Psych Up|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM81|X-Scissor|Bug|Physical|80|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM83|Work Up|Normal|Status|—|—|30}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM84|Poison Jab|Poison|Physical|80|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM87|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM90|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM94|Rock Smash|Fighting|Physical|40|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|HM01|Cut|Normal|Physical|50|95|30}}
{{learnlist/tm5|HM03|Surf|Water|Special|95|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|HM04|Strength|Normal|Physical|80|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tmf|Keldeo|Water|Fighting|5|5}}

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
{{learnlist/breedh|Keldeo|Water|Fighting|5|5}}
{{learnlist/breed5null}}
{{learnlist/breedf|Keldeo|Water|Fighting|5|5}}

====By [[Move tutor|tutoring]]====
=====Special moves=====
{{learnlist/tutorh|Keldeo|water|fighting|5|5}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Secret Sword|Fighting|Special|85|100|10|{{tt|*|Fateful encounter only}}|'''|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutorf|Keldeo|water|fighting|5|5}}

===={{Trading Card Game}}-only moves====

===Side game data===

===Evolution===
{{evobox
|family=None
|sprite1=647
|name1=Keldeo
|type1-1=Water
|type2-1=Fighting
}}

===Sprites===
{{Sprite|
type=water|
type2=fighting|
gen=5|
gender=none|
name=Keldeo|
ndex=647|
}}

==Trivia==
* As the fourth member of the [[legendary musketeers]], it shares several traits with them, but is somewhat different in a number of ways:
** Unlike the others, Keldeo is unable to learn {{m|Quick Attack}}. Instead, it is capable of learning {{m|Aqua Jet}}, a [[move variations|variation]] of Quick Attack.
** The moves that Keldeo learns by level have higher base powers than the moves learned by the other legendary musketeers.
** Keldeo learns {{m|Sacred Sword}} one level later than the other three.
** Keldeo is not listed near the other three in [[National Pokédex]] order.
** It distributes {{EV}}s for three different stats ({{stat|Special Attack}}, {{stat|Special Defense}}, and {{stat|Speed}}) as opposed to a single stat.
** Its legs seem to be stylized after animal legs and hooves, unlike the others, which seem to have boots.
* Keldeo has the highest {{stat|Special Attack}} of all {{type|Fighting}} Pokémon.
* Keldeo, along with {{p|Meloetta}}, are the only {{pkmn2|event}}-exclusive [[legendary Pokémon]] to learn their [[signature move]]s from an external source.
* Keldeo has the lowest base stat total of all event-exclusive legendary Pokémon, excluding {{p|Phione}}, whose legendary status is disputed.
* Its trait of running across water mirrors {{p|Suicune}}, another quadrupedal {{type|Water}} legendary Pokémon.

===Origin===
Keldeo is most likely based on a combination of the legend of the {{wp|kelpie}}, a supernatural water horse that sometimes appeared as a lost pony, and a {{wp|unicorn}}. Keldeo may also be inspired by the character of {{wp|d'Artagnan}} from the novel ''{{wp|The Three Musketeers}}''. Like d'Artagnan, it is the latest and youngest addition to the group. Keldeo's tail also resembles d'Artagnan's trademark feathered cap.

====Name origin====
Keldeo's name is probably derived from ''kelda'', which means 'spring' in {{wp|Old Norse}}, or ''{{wp|kelpie}}'', a water horse from Celtic folklore and the word ''{{wp|rodeo}}'', a sport involving skills with horses, cows and other livestock.

==In other languages==
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|- style="background:#FFF;"
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| Keldeo
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|- style="background:#FFF;"
| [[List of Korean Pokémon names|Korean]]
| 케르디오 ''Kereudio''
|
|}
|-
|}
 

==Notes==
<references />

==External links==
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{{Legendary Pokémon}}
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{{Project Pokédex notice}}

[[Category:Legendary Pokémon]]
[[Category:Unova Legendary Pokémon]]
[[Category:Promotion-only Pokémon]]

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Talk:Pokémon Black and White Versions 2

2012-04-13T23:58:07Z

Poke1: /* Formes */

==Formes==
It says "Two new formes" but it does not say "of Kyurem." [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]]) 02:22, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:We won't know if they are formes of Kyurem until a source confirms it. Right now, it's all speculation.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 02:26, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
::While it is all speculation they look more like alternate forms of Reshiram and Zekrom instead. [[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen Fennec]] 02:34, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:::[https://twitter.com/#!/Junichi_Masuda/status/173576515219505153 Stated Kyurem here.] But there's debate on whether they're forms or separate Pokémon. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 02:36, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
::::Ah, nice to know then. Wonder if they'll have something to do with Reshiram and Zekrom at all, also looking forward to a bit of change in the overall story plot. [[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen Fennec]] 02:39, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:::::Well, from what it looks like, it seems that it is combining Zekrom/Reshiram with Kyurem. I wonder how they will do that? Item? Special shrine? But about what Jo said above, they will be forms, as it says in [[Kyurem]]s trivia ''"There is placeholder data for an alternate form of Kyurem in Pokémon Black and White".'' --[[User:Rsrdaman|'''×Rsr''']][[User_Talk:Rsrdaman|'''daman×''']] 02:59, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
::::::Actually, if you watch the trailer for the new movie coming out on the Japanese website, it shows Zekrom and Reshiram's powers going into Kyurem. This further confirms that these are Kyurem's alternate formes, and not Zekrom's our Reshiram's. [[User:Mikk317|Mikk317]] 05:10, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
I saw the covers of the games,and the white and black kyurem's on the covers look completely different then normal white kyurem and black kyurem.What gives?--[[User:Supermon|Supermon]] 12:38, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
:There's also two "formes" for Reshiram and Zekrom (lit up and not lit up). They are apparently some "mode" (Formes with forms?). We don't really know much about them yet. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:44, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

thanks. i thought that Kyurem had 5 formes or something!--[[User:Supermon|Supermon]] 11:30, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

reshiram and zekrom don't have two forms that is their animation.--[[User:Poke1|Poke1]] 22:48, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

And in the commercial it shows how kyurem changes from white kyurem without the tubes on the back to the white kyurem on the boxart.--[[User:Poke1|Poke1]] 23:58, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

== Names of mascots ==

Junichi Masuda has stated on Twitter that the names of the new forms are '''White Kyurem''' and '''Black Kyurem'''. [[User:ZMT123|ZMT123]] 03:32, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

==Interwiki==
Page is blocked, could you add an interwiki link to [[:it:Pokémon Nero e Bianco 2]]?--[[User:Qwilava|Qwilava]] 08:37, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:Added. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 08:38, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

==US website==
Doesn't appear to have been added. [http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-video-games/pokemon-black-version-2-and-pokemon-white-version-2/ It's not much, but it's official.] [[User:GoldenCelebi|GoldenCelebi]] 10:57, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:I am reluctant to add it. It is just a sub-section, unlike [http://www.pokemonblackwhite.com/ this one]. ♫♪ [[User:Adyniz|'''エイデ''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''ィニズ''']] ♪♫ 11:21, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

== Color's for representation. ==

To avoid confusion with Black and White I think the 2 colors that represent this game on Wiki pages should be a blue and red to match the color on each logo and background for the official site. What do you guys think? [[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 12:41, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:What about if it gets confused instead with the Generation I games Red and Blue? Just pointing out... [[User:Haxorus|'''Hax''']][[User talk:Haxorus|'''or''']][[Special:MyContributions|'''us''']] 12:45, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
::All I have to say is Ruby and Sapphire. Besides they will be a different shade just like Ruby and Sapphire where and they will also be reversed, being Blue and Red instead of Red and Blue.[[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 12:55, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:::Thank you to the person who changed the color.[[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 13:14, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
::::Wait, who changed it back and why?[[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 13:53, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

== Mascots reversed? ==

I just noticed something on [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/4/46/Kyurem_forms.png the new release]. The Kyurem/Zekrom and Kyurem/Reshiram are reversed. On the original B/W, Zekrom was on the white side, and Reshiram on the black side. Its seems its reversed now.--[[User:Rsrdaman|'''×Rsr''']][[User_Talk:Rsrdaman|'''daman×''']] 15:28, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:Yes they are, but this isn't the right place for that discussion. Please go to the forums with comments/questions of this nature. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 15:44, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

== generation ==

why is it under generation v? is there any offical source to this (even though we know it might be true) -[[User:Pokeant|Pokeant]] 16:37, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

We don't really know if it is Gen V, but the fact that it uses forms of a Gen V Pokemon as its mascot make if all but confirmed. The way it looks, at least for now, is that they decided to ditch the 3rd game idea for this Gen and instead do two full sequels to BW. If they say these are a new gen or we see completely new Pokemon then we can start talking about this being Gen VI, but as it stands I think we should just leave it be.[[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 16:41, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

== Trying to clear up some unconfirmed rumors ==

I suggest a paragraph be added to the article stating something like "There is no confirmation on whether these games are a [[third version]] or not." [[User:Bwburke94|Bwburke94]] 20:26, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

The article doesn't even insinuate that, it says out right that they are second paired versions. 2 games can't be a 3rd version.[[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 22:43, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

:What he trying to mean is, most people think that these games are the '"double" 3rd versions, like Platinum, Emerald and Crystal. But if that's so, you mean these are just the continued part of original B&W? There will be a real "third" version? That's almost impossible. {{unsigned|Acellutor}}

== Classification ==

Well,looks like it can have'''3''' types-Dragon+ice+fire\electric.And can it be a new duo or trio with Kyurem or Part of the tao trio?--Shravs [[User talk:Littleroot leader shravan(ability leader)|(New Bark Gym)]] 05:09, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
:From sources, Kyurem has two new forms, each resemblin to Zekrom and/or Reshiram. So it would still be within the Tao trio. But 3 types is OP, and awkward considering the type advantages/disadvantages. I would say Kyurem would be Ice/Dragon but retaining the power of it's other form. My speculation point, but I would doubt 3 types. [[User:Chocos0|Chocos0]] 06:06, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

==European Autumn 2012 Release Confirmed==
Could someone with the powers to edit this page please add that Nintendo UK have confirmed an Autumn 2012 release for this pair? Source: http://www.officialnintendomagazine.co.uk/35866/pokemon-black-and-white-2-uk-release-date-is-autumn-2012/ [[User:Ryu Shoji|Ryu Shoji]], 10:56, 27 February, 2012 (BST)
:Done. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:14, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

== North America release confirmed: Fall 2012 ==

The American release window has been confirmed - see this article: http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2012/02/north_america_gets_pokemon_black_and_white_2_this_fall

I'm unable to add it to the article myself, so can someone who is able to edit it add the date?
[[User:NFreak007|NFreak007]] 14:55, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
:I just found out about this myself and updated [[n:Pokémon Black and White 2 coming to North America and Europe this autumn|the Bulbanews article]]. This page is now fixed too. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 15:01, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

== Redirect sentence regarding the BW002 episode ==

Greetings, I respectfully disagree with the unitalicising of the English title portion, "Enter Iris and Axew". On this site, all episode titles are italicised when put against regular unitalicised text, and the opposite should be done in this case as in other examples elsewhere in life. [[User:Haxorus|'''Hax''']][[User talk:Haxorus|'''or''']][[Special:MyContributions|'''us''']] 15:51, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
:It is already italicized, which is what is used for titles. When it is surrounded by italicized text, it doesn't need to become un-italicized. This is how everything else does it anyway. It is more important to have the title in italics rather than in contrast to regular text. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 03:23, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

== 3ds or ds ==

will this be on 3ds or ds i need to know {{unsigned|Pokefanboy}}

:It'll be on the [[Nintendo DS]], but will be compatible with the [[Nintendo 3DS]]. Yes, the press release was confusing. By the way, it's a good idea to sign your posts with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>, which is converted into an automatic link to your userpage. {{unsigned|GoldenCelebi}}
:That article mentions this. Don't mean to sound rude, but this is exactly what this site is for. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 18:05, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

== English artwork ==
Possible to use these artworks? [http://fronttowardsgamer.com/2012/02/27/pokemon-black-and-white-2-announced/ Black & White 2] -- [[User:Chickensdoorknob|ℂℏɨ₡ƙ℮ᵰᵴ∂ⱺ☮яϰŊøɓ]] 23:53, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
:Those look fanmade. They look nothing like the leaked Japanese boxes and they always use the same. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 00:02, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
::Those aren't fanmade, actually- they're on [http://www.play-asia.com/Pokemon_White_Version_2/paOS-13-71-ba-49-en-70-4lbh.html Playasia] and other pre-order sites. They're only placeholders, though. Official placeholders, but placeholders nonetheless. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] 15:04, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
:::Look at them, they were made in MSPaint. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 15:08, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

== Two official artworks? ==

How come Black Kyurem and White Kyurem have two official artworks? I'm not saying it's a mistake or even a lie, you can easily check that it's true by watching the Flash intro animation of the Japanese website. But that's the issue here: why are there two different yet official artworks for both of Kyurem's new Formes? [[User:Pokemon lover|Sato]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|Mew]] 17:33, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
:There's also two artworks for Reshiram and Zekrom (lit up and not lit up). They are apparently some "mode" (Formes with forms?). We don't really know much about them yet. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:36, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

== Trivia? ==

Would it be relevant and/or noteworthy to add that these games mark the second time the main series Pokémon games have the number 2 in their names, with the first time being the name initially announced for the original Gold and Silver ('''{{tt|ポケットモンスター２金・銀|Poketto Monsutā 2: Kin Gin}}''' ''Pocket Monsters 2: Gold and Silver'')? Even though the 2 was eventually dropped for Gold and Silver, it was still an official yet temporary name. [[User:Pokemon lover|Sato]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|Mew]] 17:49, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
:I'm totally for this. Something like: "These games are the first games in the main series to be released with a "2" in their name, though the Japanese versions of G/S were intended to have tis number in their name but this was dropped before release" ?? As long as there's a nod to the almost-Pkmn 2: G/S thing I think it's a great idea! [[User:Oshawhat?|Oshawhat?]] 09:14, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

== Parameter on the Japanese website URL ==

The URL for the Japanese website does not need the '''?a001=msign''' parameter. Please remove it. [[User:Pokemon lover|Sato]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|Mew]] 22:25, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

== Second set of direct sequels? ==

Aren't Black 2 and White 2 the second set of direct sequels in the main series? Gold and Silver are direct sequels to Red and Green (likewise, HeartGold and SoulSilver are direct sequels to FireRed and LeafGreen). The only difference is that they're from separate generations, since for all we know, Black 2 and White 2 are Generation V games like Black and White. If so, shouldn't this be mentioned in the article? [[User:Pokemon lover|Sato]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|Mew]] 22:31, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
:Considering that it hasn't even really been confirmed that these are sequels, I'd say no. Wait until we know for sure at least. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] 00:11, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
::Don't worry, I'll wait. I can't edit the article anyway. I was just pointing out this so it can be taken in consideration when we have full details about the games. [[User:Pokemon lover|Sato]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|Mew]] 13:56, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

==No info?==

Ummmm... The games are available for preorder. Shouldn't there be info on the storyline and stuff? it's-a me, [[User:Slowbro|anonymous]]
:One would think there would be more info by now, but the reason is simply because no more info has been released. When more info is released it will be added to the article. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 22:50, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
::We will be getting lots of info next [[Pokémon Smash!]] (they said they would be revealing B2W2 info on that episode). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:14, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

==Beta==

This could turn into beta. Any official source confirming that people are making this game? The above [[Special:Contributions/Wildgoose|comment]] is [[User talk: Wildgoose|supported]] by [[User:Wildgoose|Wildgoose]]. 00:57, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
:Go to the article and scroll to the bottom. There is a list of sources there. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 01:09, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

== Australian Release Date ==

In the infobox, it lists the Australian release as Spring 2012. At first this really confused me as I thought only Japan got it this Spring. Because of the different seasons in the Northern and Southern hemisphere, and because a lot of Bulbapedia's users come from the Northern Hemisphere, could we add a tooltip to make it {{tt|Spring 2012|Northern Hemisphere Fall/Autumn}}. I think this would help a lot of people who came to the site. [[User:MajesticRayquaza|''Majestic'']][[User talk:MajesticRayquaza|'''Rayquaza''']] 09:08, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
:I don't think so. The seasons will become irrelevant once we get an actual date, and the only people who should really be concerned with the release date are the people it applies to (i.e. Oceanians.) Plus it might seem unfair. If we put a note for the Northerners that South Spring = North Autumn, then we should do the same for Southerners that North Autumn = South Spring. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 09:16, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

== Amazon release date ==

Not sure if this means anything but I just saw that Amazon (through the official Nintendo seller) has the two versions up for pre-order with a release date of December 31, 2012 (I'm not sure if that's their generic date for an unknown release or the actual date though). [[User:OnixPachirisu|OnixPachirisu]] 18:52, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
:It's just a placeholder so they can take pre-orders. Nintendo already announced a fall (Sept-Nov) release. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 18:57, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

== More Release Date info ==

Per Play-Asia, the Japanese Version's release date is June 23rd, and the US release will be in October: http://www.play-asia.com/paOScore/19-71-8s-49-en-15-Pokemon-43-8s-18-2.html

[[User:Luigi-San|Luigi-San]] 03:09, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
:Well the Japanese release date is true. October does fit for the US, though is Play-asia a good source for information on the US release date? In any case, we'll probably find out about the US release date in a few months. Maybe E3? [[User:Torpoleon|Torpoleon]] 17:38, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
::It's been known for like [https://twitter.com/#!/bulbanews/status/179568320293511168 a month now]. Play-Asia is a decent source but I would still prefer to wait for an official source to confirm it, just for precautionary measures. ♫♪ [[User:Adyniz|'''エイデ''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''ィニズ''']] ♪♫ 17:46, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

== Update ==
Page needs to be updated with new Coro Coro information. [[User:Dragonace|Dragonace]] 06:58, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
:Not yet.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 07:24, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

== Ice cover ==

I don't think the article should say that Unova is engulfed in ice because it says in the Bulbanews article that it is unconfirmed whether that is actually part of the region or it is just there to cover up areas that haven't been revealed yet. [[User:PkmnChmp5|PkmnChmp5]] 23:38, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
:I agree too. There seems to be a confusion. [[User:Han Ji-Wan|Han Ji-Wan]] 23:47, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
From a talk page it says that CoroCoro confirmed the ice is only to cover upcoming stuff--[[User:Poke1|Poke1]] 17:12, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
:::According to {{u|Umeko}}'s Nihongo-fu: ''What Corocoro says in reference to the ice is essentially "What in the world is with the map freezing over? Has something strange happened?!"'' [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 17:26, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

what is a Umeko's Nihongo-fu?--[[User:Poke1|Poke1]] 20:59, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

== Towns ==

I am 99.9% certain that there are 3 towns in Southwest Unova, not 2. [[User:Han Ji-Wan|Han Ji-Wan]] 03:15, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

It says at least 2 towns.--[[User:Poke1|Poke1]] 20:58, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Pokémon Black and White Versions 2

2012-04-13T22:48:00Z

Poke1: /* Formes */

==Formes==
It says "Two new formes" but it does not say "of Kyurem." [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]]) 02:22, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:We won't know if they are formes of Kyurem until a source confirms it. Right now, it's all speculation.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 02:26, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
::While it is all speculation they look more like alternate forms of Reshiram and Zekrom instead. [[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen Fennec]] 02:34, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:::[https://twitter.com/#!/Junichi_Masuda/status/173576515219505153 Stated Kyurem here.] But there's debate on whether they're forms or separate Pokémon. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 02:36, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
::::Ah, nice to know then. Wonder if they'll have something to do with Reshiram and Zekrom at all, also looking forward to a bit of change in the overall story plot. [[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen Fennec]] 02:39, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:::::Well, from what it looks like, it seems that it is combining Zekrom/Reshiram with Kyurem. I wonder how they will do that? Item? Special shrine? But about what Jo said above, they will be forms, as it says in [[Kyurem]]s trivia ''"There is placeholder data for an alternate form of Kyurem in Pokémon Black and White".'' --[[User:Rsrdaman|'''×Rsr''']][[User_Talk:Rsrdaman|'''daman×''']] 02:59, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
::::::Actually, if you watch the trailer for the new movie coming out on the Japanese website, it shows Zekrom and Reshiram's powers going into Kyurem. This further confirms that these are Kyurem's alternate formes, and not Zekrom's our Reshiram's. [[User:Mikk317|Mikk317]] 05:10, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
I saw the covers of the games,and the white and black kyurem's on the covers look completely different then normal white kyurem and black kyurem.What gives?--[[User:Supermon|Supermon]] 12:38, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
:There's also two "formes" for Reshiram and Zekrom (lit up and not lit up). They are apparently some "mode" (Formes with forms?). We don't really know much about them yet. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:44, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

thanks. i thought that Kyurem had 5 formes or something!--[[User:Supermon|Supermon]] 11:30, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

reshiram and zekrom don't have two forms that is their animation.--[[User:Poke1|Poke1]] 22:48, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

== Names of mascots ==

Junichi Masuda has stated on Twitter that the names of the new forms are '''White Kyurem''' and '''Black Kyurem'''. [[User:ZMT123|ZMT123]] 03:32, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

==Interwiki==
Page is blocked, could you add an interwiki link to [[:it:Pokémon Nero e Bianco 2]]?--[[User:Qwilava|Qwilava]] 08:37, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:Added. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 08:38, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

==US website==
Doesn't appear to have been added. [http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-video-games/pokemon-black-version-2-and-pokemon-white-version-2/ It's not much, but it's official.] [[User:GoldenCelebi|GoldenCelebi]] 10:57, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:I am reluctant to add it. It is just a sub-section, unlike [http://www.pokemonblackwhite.com/ this one]. ♫♪ [[User:Adyniz|'''エイデ''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''ィニズ''']] ♪♫ 11:21, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

== Color's for representation. ==

To avoid confusion with Black and White I think the 2 colors that represent this game on Wiki pages should be a blue and red to match the color on each logo and background for the official site. What do you guys think? [[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 12:41, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:What about if it gets confused instead with the Generation I games Red and Blue? Just pointing out... [[User:Haxorus|'''Hax''']][[User talk:Haxorus|'''or''']][[Special:MyContributions|'''us''']] 12:45, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
::All I have to say is Ruby and Sapphire. Besides they will be a different shade just like Ruby and Sapphire where and they will also be reversed, being Blue and Red instead of Red and Blue.[[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 12:55, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:::Thank you to the person who changed the color.[[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 13:14, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
::::Wait, who changed it back and why?[[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 13:53, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

== Mascots reversed? ==

I just noticed something on [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/4/46/Kyurem_forms.png the new release]. The Kyurem/Zekrom and Kyurem/Reshiram are reversed. On the original B/W, Zekrom was on the white side, and Reshiram on the black side. Its seems its reversed now.--[[User:Rsrdaman|'''×Rsr''']][[User_Talk:Rsrdaman|'''daman×''']] 15:28, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:Yes they are, but this isn't the right place for that discussion. Please go to the forums with comments/questions of this nature. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 15:44, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

== generation ==

why is it under generation v? is there any offical source to this (even though we know it might be true) -[[User:Pokeant|Pokeant]] 16:37, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

We don't really know if it is Gen V, but the fact that it uses forms of a Gen V Pokemon as its mascot make if all but confirmed. The way it looks, at least for now, is that they decided to ditch the 3rd game idea for this Gen and instead do two full sequels to BW. If they say these are a new gen or we see completely new Pokemon then we can start talking about this being Gen VI, but as it stands I think we should just leave it be.[[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 16:41, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

== Trying to clear up some unconfirmed rumors ==

I suggest a paragraph be added to the article stating something like "There is no confirmation on whether these games are a [[third version]] or not." [[User:Bwburke94|Bwburke94]] 20:26, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

The article doesn't even insinuate that, it says out right that they are second paired versions. 2 games can't be a 3rd version.[[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 22:43, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

:What he trying to mean is, most people think that these games are the '"double" 3rd versions, like Platinum, Emerald and Crystal. But if that's so, you mean these are just the continued part of original B&W? There will be a real "third" version? That's almost impossible. {{unsigned|Acellutor}}

== Classification ==

Well,looks like it can have'''3''' types-Dragon+ice+fire\electric.And can it be a new duo or trio with Kyurem or Part of the tao trio?--Shravs [[User talk:Littleroot leader shravan(ability leader)|(New Bark Gym)]] 05:09, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
:From sources, Kyurem has two new forms, each resemblin to Zekrom and/or Reshiram. So it would still be within the Tao trio. But 3 types is OP, and awkward considering the type advantages/disadvantages. I would say Kyurem would be Ice/Dragon but retaining the power of it's other form. My speculation point, but I would doubt 3 types. [[User:Chocos0|Chocos0]] 06:06, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

==European Autumn 2012 Release Confirmed==
Could someone with the powers to edit this page please add that Nintendo UK have confirmed an Autumn 2012 release for this pair? Source: http://www.officialnintendomagazine.co.uk/35866/pokemon-black-and-white-2-uk-release-date-is-autumn-2012/ [[User:Ryu Shoji|Ryu Shoji]], 10:56, 27 February, 2012 (BST)
:Done. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:14, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

== North America release confirmed: Fall 2012 ==

The American release window has been confirmed - see this article: http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2012/02/north_america_gets_pokemon_black_and_white_2_this_fall

I'm unable to add it to the article myself, so can someone who is able to edit it add the date?
[[User:NFreak007|NFreak007]] 14:55, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
:I just found out about this myself and updated [[n:Pokémon Black and White 2 coming to North America and Europe this autumn|the Bulbanews article]]. This page is now fixed too. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 15:01, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

== Redirect sentence regarding the BW002 episode ==

Greetings, I respectfully disagree with the unitalicising of the English title portion, "Enter Iris and Axew". On this site, all episode titles are italicised when put against regular unitalicised text, and the opposite should be done in this case as in other examples elsewhere in life. [[User:Haxorus|'''Hax''']][[User talk:Haxorus|'''or''']][[Special:MyContributions|'''us''']] 15:51, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
:It is already italicized, which is what is used for titles. When it is surrounded by italicized text, it doesn't need to become un-italicized. This is how everything else does it anyway. It is more important to have the title in italics rather than in contrast to regular text. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 03:23, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

== 3ds or ds ==

will this be on 3ds or ds i need to know {{unsigned|Pokefanboy}}

:It'll be on the [[Nintendo DS]], but will be compatible with the [[Nintendo 3DS]]. Yes, the press release was confusing. By the way, it's a good idea to sign your posts with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>, which is converted into an automatic link to your userpage. {{unsigned|GoldenCelebi}}
:That article mentions this. Don't mean to sound rude, but this is exactly what this site is for. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 18:05, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

== English artwork ==
Possible to use these artworks? [http://fronttowardsgamer.com/2012/02/27/pokemon-black-and-white-2-announced/ Black & White 2] -- [[User:Chickensdoorknob|ℂℏɨ₡ƙ℮ᵰᵴ∂ⱺ☮яϰŊøɓ]] 23:53, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
:Those look fanmade. They look nothing like the leaked Japanese boxes and they always use the same. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 00:02, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
::Those aren't fanmade, actually- they're on [http://www.play-asia.com/Pokemon_White_Version_2/paOS-13-71-ba-49-en-70-4lbh.html Playasia] and other pre-order sites. They're only placeholders, though. Official placeholders, but placeholders nonetheless. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] 15:04, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
:::Look at them, they were made in MSPaint. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 15:08, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

== Two official artworks? ==

How come Black Kyurem and White Kyurem have two official artworks? I'm not saying it's a mistake or even a lie, you can easily check that it's true by watching the Flash intro animation of the Japanese website. But that's the issue here: why are there two different yet official artworks for both of Kyurem's new Formes? [[User:Pokemon lover|Sato]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|Mew]] 17:33, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
:There's also two artworks for Reshiram and Zekrom (lit up and not lit up). They are apparently some "mode" (Formes with forms?). We don't really know much about them yet. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:36, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

== Trivia? ==

Would it be relevant and/or noteworthy to add that these games mark the second time the main series Pokémon games have the number 2 in their names, with the first time being the name initially announced for the original Gold and Silver ('''{{tt|ポケットモンスター２金・銀|Poketto Monsutā 2: Kin Gin}}''' ''Pocket Monsters 2: Gold and Silver'')? Even though the 2 was eventually dropped for Gold and Silver, it was still an official yet temporary name. [[User:Pokemon lover|Sato]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|Mew]] 17:49, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
:I'm totally for this. Something like: "These games are the first games in the main series to be released with a "2" in their name, though the Japanese versions of G/S were intended to have tis number in their name but this was dropped before release" ?? As long as there's a nod to the almost-Pkmn 2: G/S thing I think it's a great idea! [[User:Oshawhat?|Oshawhat?]] 09:14, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

== Parameter on the Japanese website URL ==

The URL for the Japanese website does not need the '''?a001=msign''' parameter. Please remove it. [[User:Pokemon lover|Sato]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|Mew]] 22:25, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

== Second set of direct sequels? ==

Aren't Black 2 and White 2 the second set of direct sequels in the main series? Gold and Silver are direct sequels to Red and Green (likewise, HeartGold and SoulSilver are direct sequels to FireRed and LeafGreen). The only difference is that they're from separate generations, since for all we know, Black 2 and White 2 are Generation V games like Black and White. If so, shouldn't this be mentioned in the article? [[User:Pokemon lover|Sato]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|Mew]] 22:31, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
:Considering that it hasn't even really been confirmed that these are sequels, I'd say no. Wait until we know for sure at least. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] 00:11, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
::Don't worry, I'll wait. I can't edit the article anyway. I was just pointing out this so it can be taken in consideration when we have full details about the games. [[User:Pokemon lover|Sato]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|Mew]] 13:56, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

==No info?==

Ummmm... The games are available for preorder. Shouldn't there be info on the storyline and stuff? it's-a me, [[User:Slowbro|anonymous]]
:One would think there would be more info by now, but the reason is simply because no more info has been released. When more info is released it will be added to the article. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 22:50, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
::We will be getting lots of info next [[Pokémon Smash!]] (they said they would be revealing B2W2 info on that episode). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:14, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

==Beta==

This could turn into beta. Any official source confirming that people are making this game? The above [[Special:Contributions/Wildgoose|comment]] is [[User talk: Wildgoose|supported]] by [[User:Wildgoose|Wildgoose]]. 00:57, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
:Go to the article and scroll to the bottom. There is a list of sources there. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 01:09, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

== Australian Release Date ==

In the infobox, it lists the Australian release as Spring 2012. At first this really confused me as I thought only Japan got it this Spring. Because of the different seasons in the Northern and Southern hemisphere, and because a lot of Bulbapedia's users come from the Northern Hemisphere, could we add a tooltip to make it {{tt|Spring 2012|Northern Hemisphere Fall/Autumn}}. I think this would help a lot of people who came to the site. [[User:MajesticRayquaza|''Majestic'']][[User talk:MajesticRayquaza|'''Rayquaza''']] 09:08, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
:I don't think so. The seasons will become irrelevant once we get an actual date, and the only people who should really be concerned with the release date are the people it applies to (i.e. Oceanians.) Plus it might seem unfair. If we put a note for the Northerners that South Spring = North Autumn, then we should do the same for Southerners that North Autumn = South Spring. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 09:16, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

== Amazon release date ==

Not sure if this means anything but I just saw that Amazon (through the official Nintendo seller) has the two versions up for pre-order with a release date of December 31, 2012 (I'm not sure if that's their generic date for an unknown release or the actual date though). [[User:OnixPachirisu|OnixPachirisu]] 18:52, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
:It's just a placeholder so they can take pre-orders. Nintendo already announced a fall (Sept-Nov) release. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 18:57, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

== More Release Date info ==

Per Play-Asia, the Japanese Version's release date is June 23rd, and the US release will be in October: http://www.play-asia.com/paOScore/19-71-8s-49-en-15-Pokemon-43-8s-18-2.html

[[User:Luigi-San|Luigi-San]] 03:09, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
:Well the Japanese release date is true. October does fit for the US, though is Play-asia a good source for information on the US release date? In any case, we'll probably find out about the US release date in a few months. Maybe E3? [[User:Torpoleon|Torpoleon]] 17:38, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
::It's been known for like [https://twitter.com/#!/bulbanews/status/179568320293511168 a month now]. Play-Asia is a decent source but I would still prefer to wait for an official source to confirm it, just for precautionary measures. ♫♪ [[User:Adyniz|'''エイデ''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''ィニズ''']] ♪♫ 17:46, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

== Update ==
Page needs to be updated with new Coro Coro information. [[User:Dragonace|Dragonace]] 06:58, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
:Not yet.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 07:24, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

== Ice cover ==

I don't think the article should say that Unova is engulfed in ice because it says in the Bulbanews article that it is unconfirmed whether that is actually part of the region or it is just there to cover up areas that haven't been revealed yet. [[User:PkmnChmp5|PkmnChmp5]] 23:38, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
:I agree too. There seems to be a confusion. [[User:Han Ji-Wan|Han Ji-Wan]] 23:47, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
From a talk page it says that CoroCoro confirmed the ice is only to cover upcoming stuff--[[User:Poke1|Poke1]] 17:12, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
:::According to {{u|Umeko}}'s Nihongo-fu: ''What Corocoro says in reference to the ice is essentially "What in the world is with the map freezing over? Has something strange happened?!"'' [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 17:26, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

what is a Umeko's Nihongo-fu?--[[User:Poke1|Poke1]] 20:59, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

== Towns ==

I am 99.9% certain that there are 3 towns in Southwest Unova, not 2. [[User:Han Ji-Wan|Han Ji-Wan]] 03:15, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

It says at least 2 towns.--[[User:Poke1|Poke1]] 20:58, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Pokémon Black and White Versions 2

2012-04-13T22:46:51Z

Poke1: /* Formes */

==Formes==
It says "Two new formes" but it does not say "of Kyurem." [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]]) 02:22, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:We won't know if they are formes of Kyurem until a source confirms it. Right now, it's all speculation.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 02:26, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
::While it is all speculation they look more like alternate forms of Reshiram and Zekrom instead. [[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen Fennec]] 02:34, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:::[https://twitter.com/#!/Junichi_Masuda/status/173576515219505153 Stated Kyurem here.] But there's debate on whether they're forms or separate Pokémon. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 02:36, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
::::Ah, nice to know then. Wonder if they'll have something to do with Reshiram and Zekrom at all, also looking forward to a bit of change in the overall story plot. [[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen Fennec]] 02:39, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:::::Well, from what it looks like, it seems that it is combining Zekrom/Reshiram with Kyurem. I wonder how they will do that? Item? Special shrine? But about what Jo said above, they will be forms, as it says in [[Kyurem]]s trivia ''"There is placeholder data for an alternate form of Kyurem in Pokémon Black and White".'' --[[User:Rsrdaman|'''×Rsr''']][[User_Talk:Rsrdaman|'''daman×''']] 02:59, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
::::::Actually, if you watch the trailer for the new movie coming out on the Japanese website, it shows Zekrom and Reshiram's powers going into Kyurem. This further confirms that these are Kyurem's alternate formes, and not Zekrom's our Reshiram's. [[User:Mikk317|Mikk317]] 05:10, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
I saw the covers of the games,and the white and black kyurem's on the covers look completely different then normal white kyurem and black kyurem.What gives?--[[User:Supermon|Supermon]] 12:38, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
:There's also two "formes" for Reshiram and Zekrom (lit up and not lit up). They are apparently some "mode" (Formes with forms?). We don't really know much about them yet. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:44, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

thanks. i thought that Kyurem had 5 formes or something!--[[User:Supermon|Supermon]] 11:30, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

reshiram and zekrom don't have two forms that is their animation.

== Names of mascots ==

Junichi Masuda has stated on Twitter that the names of the new forms are '''White Kyurem''' and '''Black Kyurem'''. [[User:ZMT123|ZMT123]] 03:32, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

==Interwiki==
Page is blocked, could you add an interwiki link to [[:it:Pokémon Nero e Bianco 2]]?--[[User:Qwilava|Qwilava]] 08:37, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:Added. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 08:38, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

==US website==
Doesn't appear to have been added. [http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-video-games/pokemon-black-version-2-and-pokemon-white-version-2/ It's not much, but it's official.] [[User:GoldenCelebi|GoldenCelebi]] 10:57, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:I am reluctant to add it. It is just a sub-section, unlike [http://www.pokemonblackwhite.com/ this one]. ♫♪ [[User:Adyniz|'''エイデ''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''ィニズ''']] ♪♫ 11:21, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

== Color's for representation. ==

To avoid confusion with Black and White I think the 2 colors that represent this game on Wiki pages should be a blue and red to match the color on each logo and background for the official site. What do you guys think? [[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 12:41, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:What about if it gets confused instead with the Generation I games Red and Blue? Just pointing out... [[User:Haxorus|'''Hax''']][[User talk:Haxorus|'''or''']][[Special:MyContributions|'''us''']] 12:45, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
::All I have to say is Ruby and Sapphire. Besides they will be a different shade just like Ruby and Sapphire where and they will also be reversed, being Blue and Red instead of Red and Blue.[[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 12:55, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:::Thank you to the person who changed the color.[[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 13:14, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
::::Wait, who changed it back and why?[[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 13:53, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

== Mascots reversed? ==

I just noticed something on [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/4/46/Kyurem_forms.png the new release]. The Kyurem/Zekrom and Kyurem/Reshiram are reversed. On the original B/W, Zekrom was on the white side, and Reshiram on the black side. Its seems its reversed now.--[[User:Rsrdaman|'''×Rsr''']][[User_Talk:Rsrdaman|'''daman×''']] 15:28, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:Yes they are, but this isn't the right place for that discussion. Please go to the forums with comments/questions of this nature. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 15:44, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

== generation ==

why is it under generation v? is there any offical source to this (even though we know it might be true) -[[User:Pokeant|Pokeant]] 16:37, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

We don't really know if it is Gen V, but the fact that it uses forms of a Gen V Pokemon as its mascot make if all but confirmed. The way it looks, at least for now, is that they decided to ditch the 3rd game idea for this Gen and instead do two full sequels to BW. If they say these are a new gen or we see completely new Pokemon then we can start talking about this being Gen VI, but as it stands I think we should just leave it be.[[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 16:41, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

== Trying to clear up some unconfirmed rumors ==

I suggest a paragraph be added to the article stating something like "There is no confirmation on whether these games are a [[third version]] or not." [[User:Bwburke94|Bwburke94]] 20:26, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

The article doesn't even insinuate that, it says out right that they are second paired versions. 2 games can't be a 3rd version.[[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 22:43, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

:What he trying to mean is, most people think that these games are the '"double" 3rd versions, like Platinum, Emerald and Crystal. But if that's so, you mean these are just the continued part of original B&W? There will be a real "third" version? That's almost impossible. {{unsigned|Acellutor}}

== Classification ==

Well,looks like it can have'''3''' types-Dragon+ice+fire\electric.And can it be a new duo or trio with Kyurem or Part of the tao trio?--Shravs [[User talk:Littleroot leader shravan(ability leader)|(New Bark Gym)]] 05:09, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
:From sources, Kyurem has two new forms, each resemblin to Zekrom and/or Reshiram. So it would still be within the Tao trio. But 3 types is OP, and awkward considering the type advantages/disadvantages. I would say Kyurem would be Ice/Dragon but retaining the power of it's other form. My speculation point, but I would doubt 3 types. [[User:Chocos0|Chocos0]] 06:06, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

==European Autumn 2012 Release Confirmed==
Could someone with the powers to edit this page please add that Nintendo UK have confirmed an Autumn 2012 release for this pair? Source: http://www.officialnintendomagazine.co.uk/35866/pokemon-black-and-white-2-uk-release-date-is-autumn-2012/ [[User:Ryu Shoji|Ryu Shoji]], 10:56, 27 February, 2012 (BST)
:Done. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:14, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

== North America release confirmed: Fall 2012 ==

The American release window has been confirmed - see this article: http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2012/02/north_america_gets_pokemon_black_and_white_2_this_fall

I'm unable to add it to the article myself, so can someone who is able to edit it add the date?
[[User:NFreak007|NFreak007]] 14:55, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
:I just found out about this myself and updated [[n:Pokémon Black and White 2 coming to North America and Europe this autumn|the Bulbanews article]]. This page is now fixed too. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 15:01, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

== Redirect sentence regarding the BW002 episode ==

Greetings, I respectfully disagree with the unitalicising of the English title portion, "Enter Iris and Axew". On this site, all episode titles are italicised when put against regular unitalicised text, and the opposite should be done in this case as in other examples elsewhere in life. [[User:Haxorus|'''Hax''']][[User talk:Haxorus|'''or''']][[Special:MyContributions|'''us''']] 15:51, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
:It is already italicized, which is what is used for titles. When it is surrounded by italicized text, it doesn't need to become un-italicized. This is how everything else does it anyway. It is more important to have the title in italics rather than in contrast to regular text. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 03:23, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

== 3ds or ds ==

will this be on 3ds or ds i need to know {{unsigned|Pokefanboy}}

:It'll be on the [[Nintendo DS]], but will be compatible with the [[Nintendo 3DS]]. Yes, the press release was confusing. By the way, it's a good idea to sign your posts with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>, which is converted into an automatic link to your userpage. {{unsigned|GoldenCelebi}}
:That article mentions this. Don't mean to sound rude, but this is exactly what this site is for. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 18:05, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

== English artwork ==
Possible to use these artworks? [http://fronttowardsgamer.com/2012/02/27/pokemon-black-and-white-2-announced/ Black & White 2] -- [[User:Chickensdoorknob|ℂℏɨ₡ƙ℮ᵰᵴ∂ⱺ☮яϰŊøɓ]] 23:53, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
:Those look fanmade. They look nothing like the leaked Japanese boxes and they always use the same. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 00:02, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
::Those aren't fanmade, actually- they're on [http://www.play-asia.com/Pokemon_White_Version_2/paOS-13-71-ba-49-en-70-4lbh.html Playasia] and other pre-order sites. They're only placeholders, though. Official placeholders, but placeholders nonetheless. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] 15:04, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
:::Look at them, they were made in MSPaint. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 15:08, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

== Two official artworks? ==

How come Black Kyurem and White Kyurem have two official artworks? I'm not saying it's a mistake or even a lie, you can easily check that it's true by watching the Flash intro animation of the Japanese website. But that's the issue here: why are there two different yet official artworks for both of Kyurem's new Formes? [[User:Pokemon lover|Sato]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|Mew]] 17:33, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
:There's also two artworks for Reshiram and Zekrom (lit up and not lit up). They are apparently some "mode" (Formes with forms?). We don't really know much about them yet. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:36, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

== Trivia? ==

Would it be relevant and/or noteworthy to add that these games mark the second time the main series Pokémon games have the number 2 in their names, with the first time being the name initially announced for the original Gold and Silver ('''{{tt|ポケットモンスター２金・銀|Poketto Monsutā 2: Kin Gin}}''' ''Pocket Monsters 2: Gold and Silver'')? Even though the 2 was eventually dropped for Gold and Silver, it was still an official yet temporary name. [[User:Pokemon lover|Sato]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|Mew]] 17:49, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
:I'm totally for this. Something like: "These games are the first games in the main series to be released with a "2" in their name, though the Japanese versions of G/S were intended to have tis number in their name but this was dropped before release" ?? As long as there's a nod to the almost-Pkmn 2: G/S thing I think it's a great idea! [[User:Oshawhat?|Oshawhat?]] 09:14, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

== Parameter on the Japanese website URL ==

The URL for the Japanese website does not need the '''?a001=msign''' parameter. Please remove it. [[User:Pokemon lover|Sato]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|Mew]] 22:25, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

== Second set of direct sequels? ==

Aren't Black 2 and White 2 the second set of direct sequels in the main series? Gold and Silver are direct sequels to Red and Green (likewise, HeartGold and SoulSilver are direct sequels to FireRed and LeafGreen). The only difference is that they're from separate generations, since for all we know, Black 2 and White 2 are Generation V games like Black and White. If so, shouldn't this be mentioned in the article? [[User:Pokemon lover|Sato]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|Mew]] 22:31, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
:Considering that it hasn't even really been confirmed that these are sequels, I'd say no. Wait until we know for sure at least. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] 00:11, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
::Don't worry, I'll wait. I can't edit the article anyway. I was just pointing out this so it can be taken in consideration when we have full details about the games. [[User:Pokemon lover|Sato]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|Mew]] 13:56, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

==No info?==

Ummmm... The games are available for preorder. Shouldn't there be info on the storyline and stuff? it's-a me, [[User:Slowbro|anonymous]]
:One would think there would be more info by now, but the reason is simply because no more info has been released. When more info is released it will be added to the article. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 22:50, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
::We will be getting lots of info next [[Pokémon Smash!]] (they said they would be revealing B2W2 info on that episode). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:14, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

==Beta==

This could turn into beta. Any official source confirming that people are making this game? The above [[Special:Contributions/Wildgoose|comment]] is [[User talk: Wildgoose|supported]] by [[User:Wildgoose|Wildgoose]]. 00:57, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
:Go to the article and scroll to the bottom. There is a list of sources there. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 01:09, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

== Australian Release Date ==

In the infobox, it lists the Australian release as Spring 2012. At first this really confused me as I thought only Japan got it this Spring. Because of the different seasons in the Northern and Southern hemisphere, and because a lot of Bulbapedia's users come from the Northern Hemisphere, could we add a tooltip to make it {{tt|Spring 2012|Northern Hemisphere Fall/Autumn}}. I think this would help a lot of people who came to the site. [[User:MajesticRayquaza|''Majestic'']][[User talk:MajesticRayquaza|'''Rayquaza''']] 09:08, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
:I don't think so. The seasons will become irrelevant once we get an actual date, and the only people who should really be concerned with the release date are the people it applies to (i.e. Oceanians.) Plus it might seem unfair. If we put a note for the Northerners that South Spring = North Autumn, then we should do the same for Southerners that North Autumn = South Spring. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 09:16, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

== Amazon release date ==

Not sure if this means anything but I just saw that Amazon (through the official Nintendo seller) has the two versions up for pre-order with a release date of December 31, 2012 (I'm not sure if that's their generic date for an unknown release or the actual date though). [[User:OnixPachirisu|OnixPachirisu]] 18:52, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
:It's just a placeholder so they can take pre-orders. Nintendo already announced a fall (Sept-Nov) release. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 18:57, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

== More Release Date info ==

Per Play-Asia, the Japanese Version's release date is June 23rd, and the US release will be in October: http://www.play-asia.com/paOScore/19-71-8s-49-en-15-Pokemon-43-8s-18-2.html

[[User:Luigi-San|Luigi-San]] 03:09, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
:Well the Japanese release date is true. October does fit for the US, though is Play-asia a good source for information on the US release date? In any case, we'll probably find out about the US release date in a few months. Maybe E3? [[User:Torpoleon|Torpoleon]] 17:38, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
::It's been known for like [https://twitter.com/#!/bulbanews/status/179568320293511168 a month now]. Play-Asia is a decent source but I would still prefer to wait for an official source to confirm it, just for precautionary measures. ♫♪ [[User:Adyniz|'''エイデ''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''ィニズ''']] ♪♫ 17:46, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

== Update ==
Page needs to be updated with new Coro Coro information. [[User:Dragonace|Dragonace]] 06:58, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
:Not yet.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 07:24, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

== Ice cover ==

I don't think the article should say that Unova is engulfed in ice because it says in the Bulbanews article that it is unconfirmed whether that is actually part of the region or it is just there to cover up areas that haven't been revealed yet. [[User:PkmnChmp5|PkmnChmp5]] 23:38, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
:I agree too. There seems to be a confusion. [[User:Han Ji-Wan|Han Ji-Wan]] 23:47, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
From a talk page it says that CoroCoro confirmed the ice is only to cover upcoming stuff--[[User:Poke1|Poke1]] 17:12, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
:::According to {{u|Umeko}}'s Nihongo-fu: ''What Corocoro says in reference to the ice is essentially "What in the world is with the map freezing over? Has something strange happened?!"'' [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 17:26, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

what is a Umeko's Nihongo-fu?--[[User:Poke1|Poke1]] 20:59, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

== Towns ==

I am 99.9% certain that there are 3 towns in Southwest Unova, not 2. [[User:Han Ji-Wan|Han Ji-Wan]] 03:15, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

It says at least 2 towns.--[[User:Poke1|Poke1]] 20:58, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Pokémon Black and White Versions 2

2012-04-13T20:59:54Z

Poke1: /* Ice cover */

==Formes==
It says "Two new formes" but it does not say "of Kyurem." [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]]) 02:22, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:We won't know if they are formes of Kyurem until a source confirms it. Right now, it's all speculation.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 02:26, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
::While it is all speculation they look more like alternate forms of Reshiram and Zekrom instead. [[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen Fennec]] 02:34, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:::[https://twitter.com/#!/Junichi_Masuda/status/173576515219505153 Stated Kyurem here.] But there's debate on whether they're forms or separate Pokémon. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 02:36, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
::::Ah, nice to know then. Wonder if they'll have something to do with Reshiram and Zekrom at all, also looking forward to a bit of change in the overall story plot. [[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen Fennec]] 02:39, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:::::Well, from what it looks like, it seems that it is combining Zekrom/Reshiram with Kyurem. I wonder how they will do that? Item? Special shrine? But about what Jo said above, they will be forms, as it says in [[Kyurem]]s trivia ''"There is placeholder data for an alternate form of Kyurem in Pokémon Black and White".'' --[[User:Rsrdaman|'''×Rsr''']][[User_Talk:Rsrdaman|'''daman×''']] 02:59, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
::::::Actually, if you watch the trailer for the new movie coming out on the Japanese website, it shows Zekrom and Reshiram's powers going into Kyurem. This further confirms that these are Kyurem's alternate formes, and not Zekrom's our Reshiram's. [[User:Mikk317|Mikk317]] 05:10, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
I saw the covers of the games,and the white and black kyurem's on the covers look completely different then normal white kyurem and black kyurem.What gives?--[[User:Supermon|Supermon]] 12:38, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
:There's also two "formes" for Reshiram and Zekrom (lit up and not lit up). They are apparently some "mode" (Formes with forms?). We don't really know much about them yet. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:44, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

thanks. i thought that Kyurem had 5 formes or something!--[[User:Supermon|Supermon]] 11:30, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

== Names of mascots ==

Junichi Masuda has stated on Twitter that the names of the new forms are '''White Kyurem''' and '''Black Kyurem'''. [[User:ZMT123|ZMT123]] 03:32, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

==Interwiki==
Page is blocked, could you add an interwiki link to [[:it:Pokémon Nero e Bianco 2]]?--[[User:Qwilava|Qwilava]] 08:37, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:Added. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 08:38, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

==US website==
Doesn't appear to have been added. [http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-video-games/pokemon-black-version-2-and-pokemon-white-version-2/ It's not much, but it's official.] [[User:GoldenCelebi|GoldenCelebi]] 10:57, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:I am reluctant to add it. It is just a sub-section, unlike [http://www.pokemonblackwhite.com/ this one]. ♫♪ [[User:Adyniz|'''エイデ''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''ィニズ''']] ♪♫ 11:21, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

== Color's for representation. ==

To avoid confusion with Black and White I think the 2 colors that represent this game on Wiki pages should be a blue and red to match the color on each logo and background for the official site. What do you guys think? [[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 12:41, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:What about if it gets confused instead with the Generation I games Red and Blue? Just pointing out... [[User:Haxorus|'''Hax''']][[User talk:Haxorus|'''or''']][[Special:MyContributions|'''us''']] 12:45, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
::All I have to say is Ruby and Sapphire. Besides they will be a different shade just like Ruby and Sapphire where and they will also be reversed, being Blue and Red instead of Red and Blue.[[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 12:55, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:::Thank you to the person who changed the color.[[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 13:14, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
::::Wait, who changed it back and why?[[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 13:53, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

== Mascots reversed? ==

I just noticed something on [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/4/46/Kyurem_forms.png the new release]. The Kyurem/Zekrom and Kyurem/Reshiram are reversed. On the original B/W, Zekrom was on the white side, and Reshiram on the black side. Its seems its reversed now.--[[User:Rsrdaman|'''×Rsr''']][[User_Talk:Rsrdaman|'''daman×''']] 15:28, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:Yes they are, but this isn't the right place for that discussion. Please go to the forums with comments/questions of this nature. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 15:44, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

== generation ==

why is it under generation v? is there any offical source to this (even though we know it might be true) -[[User:Pokeant|Pokeant]] 16:37, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

We don't really know if it is Gen V, but the fact that it uses forms of a Gen V Pokemon as its mascot make if all but confirmed. The way it looks, at least for now, is that they decided to ditch the 3rd game idea for this Gen and instead do two full sequels to BW. If they say these are a new gen or we see completely new Pokemon then we can start talking about this being Gen VI, but as it stands I think we should just leave it be.[[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 16:41, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

== Trying to clear up some unconfirmed rumors ==

I suggest a paragraph be added to the article stating something like "There is no confirmation on whether these games are a [[third version]] or not." [[User:Bwburke94|Bwburke94]] 20:26, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

The article doesn't even insinuate that, it says out right that they are second paired versions. 2 games can't be a 3rd version.[[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 22:43, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

:What he trying to mean is, most people think that these games are the '"double" 3rd versions, like Platinum, Emerald and Crystal. But if that's so, you mean these are just the continued part of original B&W? There will be a real "third" version? That's almost impossible. {{unsigned|Acellutor}}

== Classification ==

Well,looks like it can have'''3''' types-Dragon+ice+fire\electric.And can it be a new duo or trio with Kyurem or Part of the tao trio?--Shravs [[User talk:Littleroot leader shravan(ability leader)|(New Bark Gym)]] 05:09, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
:From sources, Kyurem has two new forms, each resemblin to Zekrom and/or Reshiram. So it would still be within the Tao trio. But 3 types is OP, and awkward considering the type advantages/disadvantages. I would say Kyurem would be Ice/Dragon but retaining the power of it's other form. My speculation point, but I would doubt 3 types. [[User:Chocos0|Chocos0]] 06:06, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

==European Autumn 2012 Release Confirmed==
Could someone with the powers to edit this page please add that Nintendo UK have confirmed an Autumn 2012 release for this pair? Source: http://www.officialnintendomagazine.co.uk/35866/pokemon-black-and-white-2-uk-release-date-is-autumn-2012/ [[User:Ryu Shoji|Ryu Shoji]], 10:56, 27 February, 2012 (BST)
:Done. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:14, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

== North America release confirmed: Fall 2012 ==

The American release window has been confirmed - see this article: http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2012/02/north_america_gets_pokemon_black_and_white_2_this_fall

I'm unable to add it to the article myself, so can someone who is able to edit it add the date?
[[User:NFreak007|NFreak007]] 14:55, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
:I just found out about this myself and updated [[n:Pokémon Black and White 2 coming to North America and Europe this autumn|the Bulbanews article]]. This page is now fixed too. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 15:01, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

== Redirect sentence regarding the BW002 episode ==

Greetings, I respectfully disagree with the unitalicising of the English title portion, "Enter Iris and Axew". On this site, all episode titles are italicised when put against regular unitalicised text, and the opposite should be done in this case as in other examples elsewhere in life. [[User:Haxorus|'''Hax''']][[User talk:Haxorus|'''or''']][[Special:MyContributions|'''us''']] 15:51, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
:It is already italicized, which is what is used for titles. When it is surrounded by italicized text, it doesn't need to become un-italicized. This is how everything else does it anyway. It is more important to have the title in italics rather than in contrast to regular text. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 03:23, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

== 3ds or ds ==

will this be on 3ds or ds i need to know {{unsigned|Pokefanboy}}

:It'll be on the [[Nintendo DS]], but will be compatible with the [[Nintendo 3DS]]. Yes, the press release was confusing. By the way, it's a good idea to sign your posts with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>, which is converted into an automatic link to your userpage. {{unsigned|GoldenCelebi}}
:That article mentions this. Don't mean to sound rude, but this is exactly what this site is for. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 18:05, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

== English artwork ==
Possible to use these artworks? [http://fronttowardsgamer.com/2012/02/27/pokemon-black-and-white-2-announced/ Black & White 2] -- [[User:Chickensdoorknob|ℂℏɨ₡ƙ℮ᵰᵴ∂ⱺ☮яϰŊøɓ]] 23:53, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
:Those look fanmade. They look nothing like the leaked Japanese boxes and they always use the same. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 00:02, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
::Those aren't fanmade, actually- they're on [http://www.play-asia.com/Pokemon_White_Version_2/paOS-13-71-ba-49-en-70-4lbh.html Playasia] and other pre-order sites. They're only placeholders, though. Official placeholders, but placeholders nonetheless. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] 15:04, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
:::Look at them, they were made in MSPaint. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 15:08, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

== Two official artworks? ==

How come Black Kyurem and White Kyurem have two official artworks? I'm not saying it's a mistake or even a lie, you can easily check that it's true by watching the Flash intro animation of the Japanese website. But that's the issue here: why are there two different yet official artworks for both of Kyurem's new Formes? [[User:Pokemon lover|Sato]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|Mew]] 17:33, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
:There's also two artworks for Reshiram and Zekrom (lit up and not lit up). They are apparently some "mode" (Formes with forms?). We don't really know much about them yet. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:36, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

== Trivia? ==

Would it be relevant and/or noteworthy to add that these games mark the second time the main series Pokémon games have the number 2 in their names, with the first time being the name initially announced for the original Gold and Silver ('''{{tt|ポケットモンスター２金・銀|Poketto Monsutā 2: Kin Gin}}''' ''Pocket Monsters 2: Gold and Silver'')? Even though the 2 was eventually dropped for Gold and Silver, it was still an official yet temporary name. [[User:Pokemon lover|Sato]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|Mew]] 17:49, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
:I'm totally for this. Something like: "These games are the first games in the main series to be released with a "2" in their name, though the Japanese versions of G/S were intended to have tis number in their name but this was dropped before release" ?? As long as there's a nod to the almost-Pkmn 2: G/S thing I think it's a great idea! [[User:Oshawhat?|Oshawhat?]] 09:14, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

== Parameter on the Japanese website URL ==

The URL for the Japanese website does not need the '''?a001=msign''' parameter. Please remove it. [[User:Pokemon lover|Sato]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|Mew]] 22:25, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

== Second set of direct sequels? ==

Aren't Black 2 and White 2 the second set of direct sequels in the main series? Gold and Silver are direct sequels to Red and Green (likewise, HeartGold and SoulSilver are direct sequels to FireRed and LeafGreen). The only difference is that they're from separate generations, since for all we know, Black 2 and White 2 are Generation V games like Black and White. If so, shouldn't this be mentioned in the article? [[User:Pokemon lover|Sato]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|Mew]] 22:31, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
:Considering that it hasn't even really been confirmed that these are sequels, I'd say no. Wait until we know for sure at least. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] 00:11, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
::Don't worry, I'll wait. I can't edit the article anyway. I was just pointing out this so it can be taken in consideration when we have full details about the games. [[User:Pokemon lover|Sato]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|Mew]] 13:56, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

==No info?==

Ummmm... The games are available for preorder. Shouldn't there be info on the storyline and stuff? it's-a me, [[User:Slowbro|anonymous]]
:One would think there would be more info by now, but the reason is simply because no more info has been released. When more info is released it will be added to the article. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 22:50, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
::We will be getting lots of info next [[Pokémon Smash!]] (they said they would be revealing B2W2 info on that episode). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:14, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

==Beta==

This could turn into beta. Any official source confirming that people are making this game? The above [[Special:Contributions/Wildgoose|comment]] is [[User talk: Wildgoose|supported]] by [[User:Wildgoose|Wildgoose]]. 00:57, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
:Go to the article and scroll to the bottom. There is a list of sources there. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 01:09, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

== Australian Release Date ==

In the infobox, it lists the Australian release as Spring 2012. At first this really confused me as I thought only Japan got it this Spring. Because of the different seasons in the Northern and Southern hemisphere, and because a lot of Bulbapedia's users come from the Northern Hemisphere, could we add a tooltip to make it {{tt|Spring 2012|Northern Hemisphere Fall/Autumn}}. I think this would help a lot of people who came to the site. [[User:MajesticRayquaza|''Majestic'']][[User talk:MajesticRayquaza|'''Rayquaza''']] 09:08, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
:I don't think so. The seasons will become irrelevant once we get an actual date, and the only people who should really be concerned with the release date are the people it applies to (i.e. Oceanians.) Plus it might seem unfair. If we put a note for the Northerners that South Spring = North Autumn, then we should do the same for Southerners that North Autumn = South Spring. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 09:16, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

== Amazon release date ==

Not sure if this means anything but I just saw that Amazon (through the official Nintendo seller) has the two versions up for pre-order with a release date of December 31, 2012 (I'm not sure if that's their generic date for an unknown release or the actual date though). [[User:OnixPachirisu|OnixPachirisu]] 18:52, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
:It's just a placeholder so they can take pre-orders. Nintendo already announced a fall (Sept-Nov) release. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 18:57, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

== More Release Date info ==

Per Play-Asia, the Japanese Version's release date is June 23rd, and the US release will be in October: http://www.play-asia.com/paOScore/19-71-8s-49-en-15-Pokemon-43-8s-18-2.html

[[User:Luigi-San|Luigi-San]] 03:09, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
:Well the Japanese release date is true. October does fit for the US, though is Play-asia a good source for information on the US release date? In any case, we'll probably find out about the US release date in a few months. Maybe E3? [[User:Torpoleon|Torpoleon]] 17:38, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
::It's been known for like [https://twitter.com/#!/bulbanews/status/179568320293511168 a month now]. Play-Asia is a decent source but I would still prefer to wait for an official source to confirm it, just for precautionary measures. ♫♪ [[User:Adyniz|'''エイデ''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''ィニズ''']] ♪♫ 17:46, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

== Update ==
Page needs to be updated with new Coro Coro information. [[User:Dragonace|Dragonace]] 06:58, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
:Not yet.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 07:24, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

== Ice cover ==

I don't think the article should say that Unova is engulfed in ice because it says in the Bulbanews article that it is unconfirmed whether that is actually part of the region or it is just there to cover up areas that haven't been revealed yet. [[User:PkmnChmp5|PkmnChmp5]] 23:38, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
:I agree too. There seems to be a confusion. [[User:Han Ji-Wan|Han Ji-Wan]] 23:47, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
From a talk page it says that CoroCoro confirmed the ice is only to cover upcoming stuff--[[User:Poke1|Poke1]] 17:12, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
:::According to {{u|Umeko}}'s Nihongo-fu: ''What Corocoro says in reference to the ice is essentially "What in the world is with the map freezing over? Has something strange happened?!"'' [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 17:26, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

what is a Umeko's Nihongo-fu?--[[User:Poke1|Poke1]] 20:59, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

== Towns ==

I am 99.9% certain that there are 3 towns in Southwest Unova, not 2. [[User:Han Ji-Wan|Han Ji-Wan]] 03:15, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

It says at least 2 towns.--[[User:Poke1|Poke1]] 20:58, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Pokémon Black and White Versions 2

2012-04-13T20:59:44Z

Poke1: /* Ice cover */

==Formes==
It says "Two new formes" but it does not say "of Kyurem." [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]]) 02:22, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:We won't know if they are formes of Kyurem until a source confirms it. Right now, it's all speculation.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 02:26, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
::While it is all speculation they look more like alternate forms of Reshiram and Zekrom instead. [[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen Fennec]] 02:34, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:::[https://twitter.com/#!/Junichi_Masuda/status/173576515219505153 Stated Kyurem here.] But there's debate on whether they're forms or separate Pokémon. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 02:36, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
::::Ah, nice to know then. Wonder if they'll have something to do with Reshiram and Zekrom at all, also looking forward to a bit of change in the overall story plot. [[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen Fennec]] 02:39, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:::::Well, from what it looks like, it seems that it is combining Zekrom/Reshiram with Kyurem. I wonder how they will do that? Item? Special shrine? But about what Jo said above, they will be forms, as it says in [[Kyurem]]s trivia ''"There is placeholder data for an alternate form of Kyurem in Pokémon Black and White".'' --[[User:Rsrdaman|'''×Rsr''']][[User_Talk:Rsrdaman|'''daman×''']] 02:59, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
::::::Actually, if you watch the trailer for the new movie coming out on the Japanese website, it shows Zekrom and Reshiram's powers going into Kyurem. This further confirms that these are Kyurem's alternate formes, and not Zekrom's our Reshiram's. [[User:Mikk317|Mikk317]] 05:10, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
I saw the covers of the games,and the white and black kyurem's on the covers look completely different then normal white kyurem and black kyurem.What gives?--[[User:Supermon|Supermon]] 12:38, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
:There's also two "formes" for Reshiram and Zekrom (lit up and not lit up). They are apparently some "mode" (Formes with forms?). We don't really know much about them yet. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:44, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

thanks. i thought that Kyurem had 5 formes or something!--[[User:Supermon|Supermon]] 11:30, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

== Names of mascots ==

Junichi Masuda has stated on Twitter that the names of the new forms are '''White Kyurem''' and '''Black Kyurem'''. [[User:ZMT123|ZMT123]] 03:32, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

==Interwiki==
Page is blocked, could you add an interwiki link to [[:it:Pokémon Nero e Bianco 2]]?--[[User:Qwilava|Qwilava]] 08:37, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:Added. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 08:38, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

==US website==
Doesn't appear to have been added. [http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-video-games/pokemon-black-version-2-and-pokemon-white-version-2/ It's not much, but it's official.] [[User:GoldenCelebi|GoldenCelebi]] 10:57, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:I am reluctant to add it. It is just a sub-section, unlike [http://www.pokemonblackwhite.com/ this one]. ♫♪ [[User:Adyniz|'''エイデ''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''ィニズ''']] ♪♫ 11:21, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

== Color's for representation. ==

To avoid confusion with Black and White I think the 2 colors that represent this game on Wiki pages should be a blue and red to match the color on each logo and background for the official site. What do you guys think? [[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 12:41, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:What about if it gets confused instead with the Generation I games Red and Blue? Just pointing out... [[User:Haxorus|'''Hax''']][[User talk:Haxorus|'''or''']][[Special:MyContributions|'''us''']] 12:45, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
::All I have to say is Ruby and Sapphire. Besides they will be a different shade just like Ruby and Sapphire where and they will also be reversed, being Blue and Red instead of Red and Blue.[[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 12:55, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:::Thank you to the person who changed the color.[[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 13:14, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
::::Wait, who changed it back and why?[[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 13:53, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

== Mascots reversed? ==

I just noticed something on [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/4/46/Kyurem_forms.png the new release]. The Kyurem/Zekrom and Kyurem/Reshiram are reversed. On the original B/W, Zekrom was on the white side, and Reshiram on the black side. Its seems its reversed now.--[[User:Rsrdaman|'''×Rsr''']][[User_Talk:Rsrdaman|'''daman×''']] 15:28, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:Yes they are, but this isn't the right place for that discussion. Please go to the forums with comments/questions of this nature. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 15:44, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

== generation ==

why is it under generation v? is there any offical source to this (even though we know it might be true) -[[User:Pokeant|Pokeant]] 16:37, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

We don't really know if it is Gen V, but the fact that it uses forms of a Gen V Pokemon as its mascot make if all but confirmed. The way it looks, at least for now, is that they decided to ditch the 3rd game idea for this Gen and instead do two full sequels to BW. If they say these are a new gen or we see completely new Pokemon then we can start talking about this being Gen VI, but as it stands I think we should just leave it be.[[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 16:41, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

== Trying to clear up some unconfirmed rumors ==

I suggest a paragraph be added to the article stating something like "There is no confirmation on whether these games are a [[third version]] or not." [[User:Bwburke94|Bwburke94]] 20:26, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

The article doesn't even insinuate that, it says out right that they are second paired versions. 2 games can't be a 3rd version.[[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 22:43, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

:What he trying to mean is, most people think that these games are the '"double" 3rd versions, like Platinum, Emerald and Crystal. But if that's so, you mean these are just the continued part of original B&W? There will be a real "third" version? That's almost impossible. {{unsigned|Acellutor}}

== Classification ==

Well,looks like it can have'''3''' types-Dragon+ice+fire\electric.And can it be a new duo or trio with Kyurem or Part of the tao trio?--Shravs [[User talk:Littleroot leader shravan(ability leader)|(New Bark Gym)]] 05:09, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
:From sources, Kyurem has two new forms, each resemblin to Zekrom and/or Reshiram. So it would still be within the Tao trio. But 3 types is OP, and awkward considering the type advantages/disadvantages. I would say Kyurem would be Ice/Dragon but retaining the power of it's other form. My speculation point, but I would doubt 3 types. [[User:Chocos0|Chocos0]] 06:06, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

==European Autumn 2012 Release Confirmed==
Could someone with the powers to edit this page please add that Nintendo UK have confirmed an Autumn 2012 release for this pair? Source: http://www.officialnintendomagazine.co.uk/35866/pokemon-black-and-white-2-uk-release-date-is-autumn-2012/ [[User:Ryu Shoji|Ryu Shoji]], 10:56, 27 February, 2012 (BST)
:Done. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:14, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

== North America release confirmed: Fall 2012 ==

The American release window has been confirmed - see this article: http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2012/02/north_america_gets_pokemon_black_and_white_2_this_fall

I'm unable to add it to the article myself, so can someone who is able to edit it add the date?
[[User:NFreak007|NFreak007]] 14:55, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
:I just found out about this myself and updated [[n:Pokémon Black and White 2 coming to North America and Europe this autumn|the Bulbanews article]]. This page is now fixed too. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 15:01, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

== Redirect sentence regarding the BW002 episode ==

Greetings, I respectfully disagree with the unitalicising of the English title portion, "Enter Iris and Axew". On this site, all episode titles are italicised when put against regular unitalicised text, and the opposite should be done in this case as in other examples elsewhere in life. [[User:Haxorus|'''Hax''']][[User talk:Haxorus|'''or''']][[Special:MyContributions|'''us''']] 15:51, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
:It is already italicized, which is what is used for titles. When it is surrounded by italicized text, it doesn't need to become un-italicized. This is how everything else does it anyway. It is more important to have the title in italics rather than in contrast to regular text. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 03:23, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

== 3ds or ds ==

will this be on 3ds or ds i need to know {{unsigned|Pokefanboy}}

:It'll be on the [[Nintendo DS]], but will be compatible with the [[Nintendo 3DS]]. Yes, the press release was confusing. By the way, it's a good idea to sign your posts with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>, which is converted into an automatic link to your userpage. {{unsigned|GoldenCelebi}}
:That article mentions this. Don't mean to sound rude, but this is exactly what this site is for. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 18:05, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

== English artwork ==
Possible to use these artworks? [http://fronttowardsgamer.com/2012/02/27/pokemon-black-and-white-2-announced/ Black & White 2] -- [[User:Chickensdoorknob|ℂℏɨ₡ƙ℮ᵰᵴ∂ⱺ☮яϰŊøɓ]] 23:53, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
:Those look fanmade. They look nothing like the leaked Japanese boxes and they always use the same. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 00:02, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
::Those aren't fanmade, actually- they're on [http://www.play-asia.com/Pokemon_White_Version_2/paOS-13-71-ba-49-en-70-4lbh.html Playasia] and other pre-order sites. They're only placeholders, though. Official placeholders, but placeholders nonetheless. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] 15:04, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
:::Look at them, they were made in MSPaint. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 15:08, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

== Two official artworks? ==

How come Black Kyurem and White Kyurem have two official artworks? I'm not saying it's a mistake or even a lie, you can easily check that it's true by watching the Flash intro animation of the Japanese website. But that's the issue here: why are there two different yet official artworks for both of Kyurem's new Formes? [[User:Pokemon lover|Sato]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|Mew]] 17:33, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
:There's also two artworks for Reshiram and Zekrom (lit up and not lit up). They are apparently some "mode" (Formes with forms?). We don't really know much about them yet. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:36, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

== Trivia? ==

Would it be relevant and/or noteworthy to add that these games mark the second time the main series Pokémon games have the number 2 in their names, with the first time being the name initially announced for the original Gold and Silver ('''{{tt|ポケットモンスター２金・銀|Poketto Monsutā 2: Kin Gin}}''' ''Pocket Monsters 2: Gold and Silver'')? Even though the 2 was eventually dropped for Gold and Silver, it was still an official yet temporary name. [[User:Pokemon lover|Sato]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|Mew]] 17:49, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
:I'm totally for this. Something like: "These games are the first games in the main series to be released with a "2" in their name, though the Japanese versions of G/S were intended to have tis number in their name but this was dropped before release" ?? As long as there's a nod to the almost-Pkmn 2: G/S thing I think it's a great idea! [[User:Oshawhat?|Oshawhat?]] 09:14, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

== Parameter on the Japanese website URL ==

The URL for the Japanese website does not need the '''?a001=msign''' parameter. Please remove it. [[User:Pokemon lover|Sato]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|Mew]] 22:25, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

== Second set of direct sequels? ==

Aren't Black 2 and White 2 the second set of direct sequels in the main series? Gold and Silver are direct sequels to Red and Green (likewise, HeartGold and SoulSilver are direct sequels to FireRed and LeafGreen). The only difference is that they're from separate generations, since for all we know, Black 2 and White 2 are Generation V games like Black and White. If so, shouldn't this be mentioned in the article? [[User:Pokemon lover|Sato]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|Mew]] 22:31, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
:Considering that it hasn't even really been confirmed that these are sequels, I'd say no. Wait until we know for sure at least. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] 00:11, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
::Don't worry, I'll wait. I can't edit the article anyway. I was just pointing out this so it can be taken in consideration when we have full details about the games. [[User:Pokemon lover|Sato]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|Mew]] 13:56, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

==No info?==

Ummmm... The games are available for preorder. Shouldn't there be info on the storyline and stuff? it's-a me, [[User:Slowbro|anonymous]]
:One would think there would be more info by now, but the reason is simply because no more info has been released. When more info is released it will be added to the article. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 22:50, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
::We will be getting lots of info next [[Pokémon Smash!]] (they said they would be revealing B2W2 info on that episode). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:14, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

==Beta==

This could turn into beta. Any official source confirming that people are making this game? The above [[Special:Contributions/Wildgoose|comment]] is [[User talk: Wildgoose|supported]] by [[User:Wildgoose|Wildgoose]]. 00:57, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
:Go to the article and scroll to the bottom. There is a list of sources there. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 01:09, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

== Australian Release Date ==

In the infobox, it lists the Australian release as Spring 2012. At first this really confused me as I thought only Japan got it this Spring. Because of the different seasons in the Northern and Southern hemisphere, and because a lot of Bulbapedia's users come from the Northern Hemisphere, could we add a tooltip to make it {{tt|Spring 2012|Northern Hemisphere Fall/Autumn}}. I think this would help a lot of people who came to the site. [[User:MajesticRayquaza|''Majestic'']][[User talk:MajesticRayquaza|'''Rayquaza''']] 09:08, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
:I don't think so. The seasons will become irrelevant once we get an actual date, and the only people who should really be concerned with the release date are the people it applies to (i.e. Oceanians.) Plus it might seem unfair. If we put a note for the Northerners that South Spring = North Autumn, then we should do the same for Southerners that North Autumn = South Spring. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 09:16, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

== Amazon release date ==

Not sure if this means anything but I just saw that Amazon (through the official Nintendo seller) has the two versions up for pre-order with a release date of December 31, 2012 (I'm not sure if that's their generic date for an unknown release or the actual date though). [[User:OnixPachirisu|OnixPachirisu]] 18:52, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
:It's just a placeholder so they can take pre-orders. Nintendo already announced a fall (Sept-Nov) release. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 18:57, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

== More Release Date info ==

Per Play-Asia, the Japanese Version's release date is June 23rd, and the US release will be in October: http://www.play-asia.com/paOScore/19-71-8s-49-en-15-Pokemon-43-8s-18-2.html

[[User:Luigi-San|Luigi-San]] 03:09, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
:Well the Japanese release date is true. October does fit for the US, though is Play-asia a good source for information on the US release date? In any case, we'll probably find out about the US release date in a few months. Maybe E3? [[User:Torpoleon|Torpoleon]] 17:38, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
::It's been known for like [https://twitter.com/#!/bulbanews/status/179568320293511168 a month now]. Play-Asia is a decent source but I would still prefer to wait for an official source to confirm it, just for precautionary measures. ♫♪ [[User:Adyniz|'''エイデ''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''ィニズ''']] ♪♫ 17:46, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

== Update ==
Page needs to be updated with new Coro Coro information. [[User:Dragonace|Dragonace]] 06:58, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
:Not yet.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 07:24, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

== Ice cover ==

I don't think the article should say that Unova is engulfed in ice because it says in the Bulbanews article that it is unconfirmed whether that is actually part of the region or it is just there to cover up areas that haven't been revealed yet. [[User:PkmnChmp5|PkmnChmp5]] 23:38, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
:I agree too. There seems to be a confusion. [[User:Han Ji-Wan|Han Ji-Wan]] 23:47, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
From a talk page it says that CoroCoro confirmed the ice is only to cover upcoming stuff--[[User:Poke1|Poke1]] 17:12, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
:::According to {{u|Umeko}}'s Nihongo-fu: ''What Corocoro says in reference to the ice is essentially "What in the world is with the map freezing over? Has something strange happened?!"'' [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 17:26, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

what is a Umeko's Nihongo-fu?

== Towns ==

I am 99.9% certain that there are 3 towns in Southwest Unova, not 2. [[User:Han Ji-Wan|Han Ji-Wan]] 03:15, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

It says at least 2 towns.--[[User:Poke1|Poke1]] 20:58, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

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==Formes==
It says "Two new formes" but it does not say "of Kyurem." [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]]) 02:22, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:We won't know if they are formes of Kyurem until a source confirms it. Right now, it's all speculation.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 02:26, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
::While it is all speculation they look more like alternate forms of Reshiram and Zekrom instead. [[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen Fennec]] 02:34, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:::[https://twitter.com/#!/Junichi_Masuda/status/173576515219505153 Stated Kyurem here.] But there's debate on whether they're forms or separate Pokémon. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 02:36, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
::::Ah, nice to know then. Wonder if they'll have something to do with Reshiram and Zekrom at all, also looking forward to a bit of change in the overall story plot. [[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen Fennec]] 02:39, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:::::Well, from what it looks like, it seems that it is combining Zekrom/Reshiram with Kyurem. I wonder how they will do that? Item? Special shrine? But about what Jo said above, they will be forms, as it says in [[Kyurem]]s trivia ''"There is placeholder data for an alternate form of Kyurem in Pokémon Black and White".'' --[[User:Rsrdaman|'''×Rsr''']][[User_Talk:Rsrdaman|'''daman×''']] 02:59, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
::::::Actually, if you watch the trailer for the new movie coming out on the Japanese website, it shows Zekrom and Reshiram's powers going into Kyurem. This further confirms that these are Kyurem's alternate formes, and not Zekrom's our Reshiram's. [[User:Mikk317|Mikk317]] 05:10, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
I saw the covers of the games,and the white and black kyurem's on the covers look completely different then normal white kyurem and black kyurem.What gives?--[[User:Supermon|Supermon]] 12:38, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
:There's also two "formes" for Reshiram and Zekrom (lit up and not lit up). They are apparently some "mode" (Formes with forms?). We don't really know much about them yet. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:44, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

thanks. i thought that Kyurem had 5 formes or something!--[[User:Supermon|Supermon]] 11:30, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

== Names of mascots ==

Junichi Masuda has stated on Twitter that the names of the new forms are '''White Kyurem''' and '''Black Kyurem'''. [[User:ZMT123|ZMT123]] 03:32, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

==Interwiki==
Page is blocked, could you add an interwiki link to [[:it:Pokémon Nero e Bianco 2]]?--[[User:Qwilava|Qwilava]] 08:37, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:Added. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 08:38, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

==US website==
Doesn't appear to have been added. [http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-video-games/pokemon-black-version-2-and-pokemon-white-version-2/ It's not much, but it's official.] [[User:GoldenCelebi|GoldenCelebi]] 10:57, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:I am reluctant to add it. It is just a sub-section, unlike [http://www.pokemonblackwhite.com/ this one]. ♫♪ [[User:Adyniz|'''エイデ''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''ィニズ''']] ♪♫ 11:21, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

== Color's for representation. ==

To avoid confusion with Black and White I think the 2 colors that represent this game on Wiki pages should be a blue and red to match the color on each logo and background for the official site. What do you guys think? [[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 12:41, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:What about if it gets confused instead with the Generation I games Red and Blue? Just pointing out... [[User:Haxorus|'''Hax''']][[User talk:Haxorus|'''or''']][[Special:MyContributions|'''us''']] 12:45, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
::All I have to say is Ruby and Sapphire. Besides they will be a different shade just like Ruby and Sapphire where and they will also be reversed, being Blue and Red instead of Red and Blue.[[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 12:55, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:::Thank you to the person who changed the color.[[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 13:14, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
::::Wait, who changed it back and why?[[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 13:53, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

== Mascots reversed? ==

I just noticed something on [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/4/46/Kyurem_forms.png the new release]. The Kyurem/Zekrom and Kyurem/Reshiram are reversed. On the original B/W, Zekrom was on the white side, and Reshiram on the black side. Its seems its reversed now.--[[User:Rsrdaman|'''×Rsr''']][[User_Talk:Rsrdaman|'''daman×''']] 15:28, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:Yes they are, but this isn't the right place for that discussion. Please go to the forums with comments/questions of this nature. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 15:44, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

== generation ==

why is it under generation v? is there any offical source to this (even though we know it might be true) -[[User:Pokeant|Pokeant]] 16:37, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

We don't really know if it is Gen V, but the fact that it uses forms of a Gen V Pokemon as its mascot make if all but confirmed. The way it looks, at least for now, is that they decided to ditch the 3rd game idea for this Gen and instead do two full sequels to BW. If they say these are a new gen or we see completely new Pokemon then we can start talking about this being Gen VI, but as it stands I think we should just leave it be.[[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 16:41, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

== Trying to clear up some unconfirmed rumors ==

I suggest a paragraph be added to the article stating something like "There is no confirmation on whether these games are a [[third version]] or not." [[User:Bwburke94|Bwburke94]] 20:26, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

The article doesn't even insinuate that, it says out right that they are second paired versions. 2 games can't be a 3rd version.[[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 22:43, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

:What he trying to mean is, most people think that these games are the '"double" 3rd versions, like Platinum, Emerald and Crystal. But if that's so, you mean these are just the continued part of original B&W? There will be a real "third" version? That's almost impossible. {{unsigned|Acellutor}}

== Classification ==

Well,looks like it can have'''3''' types-Dragon+ice+fire\electric.And can it be a new duo or trio with Kyurem or Part of the tao trio?--Shravs [[User talk:Littleroot leader shravan(ability leader)|(New Bark Gym)]] 05:09, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
:From sources, Kyurem has two new forms, each resemblin to Zekrom and/or Reshiram. So it would still be within the Tao trio. But 3 types is OP, and awkward considering the type advantages/disadvantages. I would say Kyurem would be Ice/Dragon but retaining the power of it's other form. My speculation point, but I would doubt 3 types. [[User:Chocos0|Chocos0]] 06:06, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

==European Autumn 2012 Release Confirmed==
Could someone with the powers to edit this page please add that Nintendo UK have confirmed an Autumn 2012 release for this pair? Source: http://www.officialnintendomagazine.co.uk/35866/pokemon-black-and-white-2-uk-release-date-is-autumn-2012/ [[User:Ryu Shoji|Ryu Shoji]], 10:56, 27 February, 2012 (BST)
:Done. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:14, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

== North America release confirmed: Fall 2012 ==

The American release window has been confirmed - see this article: http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2012/02/north_america_gets_pokemon_black_and_white_2_this_fall

I'm unable to add it to the article myself, so can someone who is able to edit it add the date?
[[User:NFreak007|NFreak007]] 14:55, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
:I just found out about this myself and updated [[n:Pokémon Black and White 2 coming to North America and Europe this autumn|the Bulbanews article]]. This page is now fixed too. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 15:01, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

== Redirect sentence regarding the BW002 episode ==

Greetings, I respectfully disagree with the unitalicising of the English title portion, "Enter Iris and Axew". On this site, all episode titles are italicised when put against regular unitalicised text, and the opposite should be done in this case as in other examples elsewhere in life. [[User:Haxorus|'''Hax''']][[User talk:Haxorus|'''or''']][[Special:MyContributions|'''us''']] 15:51, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
:It is already italicized, which is what is used for titles. When it is surrounded by italicized text, it doesn't need to become un-italicized. This is how everything else does it anyway. It is more important to have the title in italics rather than in contrast to regular text. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 03:23, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

== 3ds or ds ==

will this be on 3ds or ds i need to know {{unsigned|Pokefanboy}}

:It'll be on the [[Nintendo DS]], but will be compatible with the [[Nintendo 3DS]]. Yes, the press release was confusing. By the way, it's a good idea to sign your posts with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>, which is converted into an automatic link to your userpage. {{unsigned|GoldenCelebi}}
:That article mentions this. Don't mean to sound rude, but this is exactly what this site is for. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 18:05, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

== English artwork ==
Possible to use these artworks? [http://fronttowardsgamer.com/2012/02/27/pokemon-black-and-white-2-announced/ Black & White 2] -- [[User:Chickensdoorknob|ℂℏɨ₡ƙ℮ᵰᵴ∂ⱺ☮яϰŊøɓ]] 23:53, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
:Those look fanmade. They look nothing like the leaked Japanese boxes and they always use the same. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 00:02, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
::Those aren't fanmade, actually- they're on [http://www.play-asia.com/Pokemon_White_Version_2/paOS-13-71-ba-49-en-70-4lbh.html Playasia] and other pre-order sites. They're only placeholders, though. Official placeholders, but placeholders nonetheless. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] 15:04, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
:::Look at them, they were made in MSPaint. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 15:08, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

== Two official artworks? ==

How come Black Kyurem and White Kyurem have two official artworks? I'm not saying it's a mistake or even a lie, you can easily check that it's true by watching the Flash intro animation of the Japanese website. But that's the issue here: why are there two different yet official artworks for both of Kyurem's new Formes? [[User:Pokemon lover|Sato]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|Mew]] 17:33, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
:There's also two artworks for Reshiram and Zekrom (lit up and not lit up). They are apparently some "mode" (Formes with forms?). We don't really know much about them yet. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:36, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

== Trivia? ==

Would it be relevant and/or noteworthy to add that these games mark the second time the main series Pokémon games have the number 2 in their names, with the first time being the name initially announced for the original Gold and Silver ('''{{tt|ポケットモンスター２金・銀|Poketto Monsutā 2: Kin Gin}}''' ''Pocket Monsters 2: Gold and Silver'')? Even though the 2 was eventually dropped for Gold and Silver, it was still an official yet temporary name. [[User:Pokemon lover|Sato]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|Mew]] 17:49, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
:I'm totally for this. Something like: "These games are the first games in the main series to be released with a "2" in their name, though the Japanese versions of G/S were intended to have tis number in their name but this was dropped before release" ?? As long as there's a nod to the almost-Pkmn 2: G/S thing I think it's a great idea! [[User:Oshawhat?|Oshawhat?]] 09:14, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

== Parameter on the Japanese website URL ==

The URL for the Japanese website does not need the '''?a001=msign''' parameter. Please remove it. [[User:Pokemon lover|Sato]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|Mew]] 22:25, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

== Second set of direct sequels? ==

Aren't Black 2 and White 2 the second set of direct sequels in the main series? Gold and Silver are direct sequels to Red and Green (likewise, HeartGold and SoulSilver are direct sequels to FireRed and LeafGreen). The only difference is that they're from separate generations, since for all we know, Black 2 and White 2 are Generation V games like Black and White. If so, shouldn't this be mentioned in the article? [[User:Pokemon lover|Sato]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|Mew]] 22:31, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
:Considering that it hasn't even really been confirmed that these are sequels, I'd say no. Wait until we know for sure at least. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] 00:11, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
::Don't worry, I'll wait. I can't edit the article anyway. I was just pointing out this so it can be taken in consideration when we have full details about the games. [[User:Pokemon lover|Sato]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|Mew]] 13:56, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

==No info?==

Ummmm... The games are available for preorder. Shouldn't there be info on the storyline and stuff? it's-a me, [[User:Slowbro|anonymous]]
:One would think there would be more info by now, but the reason is simply because no more info has been released. When more info is released it will be added to the article. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 22:50, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
::We will be getting lots of info next [[Pokémon Smash!]] (they said they would be revealing B2W2 info on that episode). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:14, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

==Beta==

This could turn into beta. Any official source confirming that people are making this game? The above [[Special:Contributions/Wildgoose|comment]] is [[User talk: Wildgoose|supported]] by [[User:Wildgoose|Wildgoose]]. 00:57, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
:Go to the article and scroll to the bottom. There is a list of sources there. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 01:09, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

== Australian Release Date ==

In the infobox, it lists the Australian release as Spring 2012. At first this really confused me as I thought only Japan got it this Spring. Because of the different seasons in the Northern and Southern hemisphere, and because a lot of Bulbapedia's users come from the Northern Hemisphere, could we add a tooltip to make it {{tt|Spring 2012|Northern Hemisphere Fall/Autumn}}. I think this would help a lot of people who came to the site. [[User:MajesticRayquaza|''Majestic'']][[User talk:MajesticRayquaza|'''Rayquaza''']] 09:08, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
:I don't think so. The seasons will become irrelevant once we get an actual date, and the only people who should really be concerned with the release date are the people it applies to (i.e. Oceanians.) Plus it might seem unfair. If we put a note for the Northerners that South Spring = North Autumn, then we should do the same for Southerners that North Autumn = South Spring. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 09:16, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

== Amazon release date ==

Not sure if this means anything but I just saw that Amazon (through the official Nintendo seller) has the two versions up for pre-order with a release date of December 31, 2012 (I'm not sure if that's their generic date for an unknown release or the actual date though). [[User:OnixPachirisu|OnixPachirisu]] 18:52, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
:It's just a placeholder so they can take pre-orders. Nintendo already announced a fall (Sept-Nov) release. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 18:57, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

== More Release Date info ==

Per Play-Asia, the Japanese Version's release date is June 23rd, and the US release will be in October: http://www.play-asia.com/paOScore/19-71-8s-49-en-15-Pokemon-43-8s-18-2.html

[[User:Luigi-San|Luigi-San]] 03:09, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
:Well the Japanese release date is true. October does fit for the US, though is Play-asia a good source for information on the US release date? In any case, we'll probably find out about the US release date in a few months. Maybe E3? [[User:Torpoleon|Torpoleon]] 17:38, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
::It's been known for like [https://twitter.com/#!/bulbanews/status/179568320293511168 a month now]. Play-Asia is a decent source but I would still prefer to wait for an official source to confirm it, just for precautionary measures. ♫♪ [[User:Adyniz|'''エイデ''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''ィニズ''']] ♪♫ 17:46, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

== Update ==
Page needs to be updated with new Coro Coro information. [[User:Dragonace|Dragonace]] 06:58, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
:Not yet.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 07:24, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

== Ice cover ==

I don't think the article should say that Unova is engulfed in ice because it says in the Bulbanews article that it is unconfirmed whether that is actually part of the region or it is just there to cover up areas that haven't been revealed yet. [[User:PkmnChmp5|PkmnChmp5]] 23:38, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
:I agree too. There seems to be a confusion. [[User:Han Ji-Wan|Han Ji-Wan]] 23:47, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
From a talk page it says that CoroCoro confirmed the ice is only to cover upcoming stuff--[[User:Poke1|Poke1]] 17:12, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
:::According to {{u|Umeko}}'s Nihongo-fu: ''What Corocoro says in reference to the ice is essentially "What in the world is with the map freezing over? Has something strange happened?!"'' [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 17:26, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

== Towns ==

I am 99.9% certain that there are 3 towns in Southwest Unova, not 2. [[User:Han Ji-Wan|Han Ji-Wan]] 03:15, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

It says at least 2 towns.--[[User:Poke1|Poke1]] 20:58, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

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==Formes==
It says "Two new formes" but it does not say "of Kyurem." [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]]) 02:22, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:We won't know if they are formes of Kyurem until a source confirms it. Right now, it's all speculation.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 02:26, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
::While it is all speculation they look more like alternate forms of Reshiram and Zekrom instead. [[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen Fennec]] 02:34, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:::[https://twitter.com/#!/Junichi_Masuda/status/173576515219505153 Stated Kyurem here.] But there's debate on whether they're forms or separate Pokémon. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 02:36, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
::::Ah, nice to know then. Wonder if they'll have something to do with Reshiram and Zekrom at all, also looking forward to a bit of change in the overall story plot. [[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen Fennec]] 02:39, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:::::Well, from what it looks like, it seems that it is combining Zekrom/Reshiram with Kyurem. I wonder how they will do that? Item? Special shrine? But about what Jo said above, they will be forms, as it says in [[Kyurem]]s trivia ''"There is placeholder data for an alternate form of Kyurem in Pokémon Black and White".'' --[[User:Rsrdaman|'''×Rsr''']][[User_Talk:Rsrdaman|'''daman×''']] 02:59, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
::::::Actually, if you watch the trailer for the new movie coming out on the Japanese website, it shows Zekrom and Reshiram's powers going into Kyurem. This further confirms that these are Kyurem's alternate formes, and not Zekrom's our Reshiram's. [[User:Mikk317|Mikk317]] 05:10, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
I saw the covers of the games,and the white and black kyurem's on the covers look completely different then normal white kyurem and black kyurem.What gives?--[[User:Supermon|Supermon]] 12:38, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
:There's also two "formes" for Reshiram and Zekrom (lit up and not lit up). They are apparently some "mode" (Formes with forms?). We don't really know much about them yet. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:44, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

thanks. i thought that Kyurem had 5 formes or something!--[[User:Supermon|Supermon]] 11:30, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

== Names of mascots ==

Junichi Masuda has stated on Twitter that the names of the new forms are '''White Kyurem''' and '''Black Kyurem'''. [[User:ZMT123|ZMT123]] 03:32, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

==Interwiki==
Page is blocked, could you add an interwiki link to [[:it:Pokémon Nero e Bianco 2]]?--[[User:Qwilava|Qwilava]] 08:37, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:Added. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 08:38, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

==US website==
Doesn't appear to have been added. [http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-video-games/pokemon-black-version-2-and-pokemon-white-version-2/ It's not much, but it's official.] [[User:GoldenCelebi|GoldenCelebi]] 10:57, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:I am reluctant to add it. It is just a sub-section, unlike [http://www.pokemonblackwhite.com/ this one]. ♫♪ [[User:Adyniz|'''エイデ''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''ィニズ''']] ♪♫ 11:21, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

== Color's for representation. ==

To avoid confusion with Black and White I think the 2 colors that represent this game on Wiki pages should be a blue and red to match the color on each logo and background for the official site. What do you guys think? [[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 12:41, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:What about if it gets confused instead with the Generation I games Red and Blue? Just pointing out... [[User:Haxorus|'''Hax''']][[User talk:Haxorus|'''or''']][[Special:MyContributions|'''us''']] 12:45, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
::All I have to say is Ruby and Sapphire. Besides they will be a different shade just like Ruby and Sapphire where and they will also be reversed, being Blue and Red instead of Red and Blue.[[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 12:55, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:::Thank you to the person who changed the color.[[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 13:14, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
::::Wait, who changed it back and why?[[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 13:53, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

== Mascots reversed? ==

I just noticed something on [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/4/46/Kyurem_forms.png the new release]. The Kyurem/Zekrom and Kyurem/Reshiram are reversed. On the original B/W, Zekrom was on the white side, and Reshiram on the black side. Its seems its reversed now.--[[User:Rsrdaman|'''×Rsr''']][[User_Talk:Rsrdaman|'''daman×''']] 15:28, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
:Yes they are, but this isn't the right place for that discussion. Please go to the forums with comments/questions of this nature. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 15:44, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

== generation ==

why is it under generation v? is there any offical source to this (even though we know it might be true) -[[User:Pokeant|Pokeant]] 16:37, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

We don't really know if it is Gen V, but the fact that it uses forms of a Gen V Pokemon as its mascot make if all but confirmed. The way it looks, at least for now, is that they decided to ditch the 3rd game idea for this Gen and instead do two full sequels to BW. If they say these are a new gen or we see completely new Pokemon then we can start talking about this being Gen VI, but as it stands I think we should just leave it be.[[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 16:41, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

== Trying to clear up some unconfirmed rumors ==

I suggest a paragraph be added to the article stating something like "There is no confirmation on whether these games are a [[third version]] or not." [[User:Bwburke94|Bwburke94]] 20:26, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

The article doesn't even insinuate that, it says out right that they are second paired versions. 2 games can't be a 3rd version.[[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 22:43, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

:What he trying to mean is, most people think that these games are the '"double" 3rd versions, like Platinum, Emerald and Crystal. But if that's so, you mean these are just the continued part of original B&W? There will be a real "third" version? That's almost impossible. {{unsigned|Acellutor}}

== Classification ==

Well,looks like it can have'''3''' types-Dragon+ice+fire\electric.And can it be a new duo or trio with Kyurem or Part of the tao trio?--Shravs [[User talk:Littleroot leader shravan(ability leader)|(New Bark Gym)]] 05:09, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
:From sources, Kyurem has two new forms, each resemblin to Zekrom and/or Reshiram. So it would still be within the Tao trio. But 3 types is OP, and awkward considering the type advantages/disadvantages. I would say Kyurem would be Ice/Dragon but retaining the power of it's other form. My speculation point, but I would doubt 3 types. [[User:Chocos0|Chocos0]] 06:06, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

==European Autumn 2012 Release Confirmed==
Could someone with the powers to edit this page please add that Nintendo UK have confirmed an Autumn 2012 release for this pair? Source: http://www.officialnintendomagazine.co.uk/35866/pokemon-black-and-white-2-uk-release-date-is-autumn-2012/ [[User:Ryu Shoji|Ryu Shoji]], 10:56, 27 February, 2012 (BST)
:Done. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:14, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

== North America release confirmed: Fall 2012 ==

The American release window has been confirmed - see this article: http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2012/02/north_america_gets_pokemon_black_and_white_2_this_fall

I'm unable to add it to the article myself, so can someone who is able to edit it add the date?
[[User:NFreak007|NFreak007]] 14:55, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
:I just found out about this myself and updated [[n:Pokémon Black and White 2 coming to North America and Europe this autumn|the Bulbanews article]]. This page is now fixed too. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 15:01, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

== Redirect sentence regarding the BW002 episode ==

Greetings, I respectfully disagree with the unitalicising of the English title portion, "Enter Iris and Axew". On this site, all episode titles are italicised when put against regular unitalicised text, and the opposite should be done in this case as in other examples elsewhere in life. [[User:Haxorus|'''Hax''']][[User talk:Haxorus|'''or''']][[Special:MyContributions|'''us''']] 15:51, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
:It is already italicized, which is what is used for titles. When it is surrounded by italicized text, it doesn't need to become un-italicized. This is how everything else does it anyway. It is more important to have the title in italics rather than in contrast to regular text. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 03:23, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

== 3ds or ds ==

will this be on 3ds or ds i need to know {{unsigned|Pokefanboy}}

:It'll be on the [[Nintendo DS]], but will be compatible with the [[Nintendo 3DS]]. Yes, the press release was confusing. By the way, it's a good idea to sign your posts with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>, which is converted into an automatic link to your userpage. {{unsigned|GoldenCelebi}}
:That article mentions this. Don't mean to sound rude, but this is exactly what this site is for. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 18:05, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

== English artwork ==
Possible to use these artworks? [http://fronttowardsgamer.com/2012/02/27/pokemon-black-and-white-2-announced/ Black & White 2] -- [[User:Chickensdoorknob|ℂℏɨ₡ƙ℮ᵰᵴ∂ⱺ☮яϰŊøɓ]] 23:53, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
:Those look fanmade. They look nothing like the leaked Japanese boxes and they always use the same. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 00:02, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
::Those aren't fanmade, actually- they're on [http://www.play-asia.com/Pokemon_White_Version_2/paOS-13-71-ba-49-en-70-4lbh.html Playasia] and other pre-order sites. They're only placeholders, though. Official placeholders, but placeholders nonetheless. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] 15:04, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
:::Look at them, they were made in MSPaint. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 15:08, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

== Two official artworks? ==

How come Black Kyurem and White Kyurem have two official artworks? I'm not saying it's a mistake or even a lie, you can easily check that it's true by watching the Flash intro animation of the Japanese website. But that's the issue here: why are there two different yet official artworks for both of Kyurem's new Formes? [[User:Pokemon lover|Sato]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|Mew]] 17:33, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
:There's also two artworks for Reshiram and Zekrom (lit up and not lit up). They are apparently some "mode" (Formes with forms?). We don't really know much about them yet. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:36, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

== Trivia? ==

Would it be relevant and/or noteworthy to add that these games mark the second time the main series Pokémon games have the number 2 in their names, with the first time being the name initially announced for the original Gold and Silver ('''{{tt|ポケットモンスター２金・銀|Poketto Monsutā 2: Kin Gin}}''' ''Pocket Monsters 2: Gold and Silver'')? Even though the 2 was eventually dropped for Gold and Silver, it was still an official yet temporary name. [[User:Pokemon lover|Sato]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|Mew]] 17:49, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
:I'm totally for this. Something like: "These games are the first games in the main series to be released with a "2" in their name, though the Japanese versions of G/S were intended to have tis number in their name but this was dropped before release" ?? As long as there's a nod to the almost-Pkmn 2: G/S thing I think it's a great idea! [[User:Oshawhat?|Oshawhat?]] 09:14, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

== Parameter on the Japanese website URL ==

The URL for the Japanese website does not need the '''?a001=msign''' parameter. Please remove it. [[User:Pokemon lover|Sato]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|Mew]] 22:25, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

== Second set of direct sequels? ==

Aren't Black 2 and White 2 the second set of direct sequels in the main series? Gold and Silver are direct sequels to Red and Green (likewise, HeartGold and SoulSilver are direct sequels to FireRed and LeafGreen). The only difference is that they're from separate generations, since for all we know, Black 2 and White 2 are Generation V games like Black and White. If so, shouldn't this be mentioned in the article? [[User:Pokemon lover|Sato]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|Mew]] 22:31, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
:Considering that it hasn't even really been confirmed that these are sequels, I'd say no. Wait until we know for sure at least. [[User:Yamiidenryuu|Yamiidenryuu]] 00:11, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
::Don't worry, I'll wait. I can't edit the article anyway. I was just pointing out this so it can be taken in consideration when we have full details about the games. [[User:Pokemon lover|Sato]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|Mew]] 13:56, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

==No info?==

Ummmm... The games are available for preorder. Shouldn't there be info on the storyline and stuff? it's-a me, [[User:Slowbro|anonymous]]
:One would think there would be more info by now, but the reason is simply because no more info has been released. When more info is released it will be added to the article. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 22:50, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
::We will be getting lots of info next [[Pokémon Smash!]] (they said they would be revealing B2W2 info on that episode). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:14, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

==Beta==

This could turn into beta. Any official source confirming that people are making this game? The above [[Special:Contributions/Wildgoose|comment]] is [[User talk: Wildgoose|supported]] by [[User:Wildgoose|Wildgoose]]. 00:57, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
:Go to the article and scroll to the bottom. There is a list of sources there. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 01:09, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

== Australian Release Date ==

In the infobox, it lists the Australian release as Spring 2012. At first this really confused me as I thought only Japan got it this Spring. Because of the different seasons in the Northern and Southern hemisphere, and because a lot of Bulbapedia's users come from the Northern Hemisphere, could we add a tooltip to make it {{tt|Spring 2012|Northern Hemisphere Fall/Autumn}}. I think this would help a lot of people who came to the site. [[User:MajesticRayquaza|''Majestic'']][[User talk:MajesticRayquaza|'''Rayquaza''']] 09:08, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
:I don't think so. The seasons will become irrelevant once we get an actual date, and the only people who should really be concerned with the release date are the people it applies to (i.e. Oceanians.) Plus it might seem unfair. If we put a note for the Northerners that South Spring = North Autumn, then we should do the same for Southerners that North Autumn = South Spring. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 09:16, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

== Amazon release date ==

Not sure if this means anything but I just saw that Amazon (through the official Nintendo seller) has the two versions up for pre-order with a release date of December 31, 2012 (I'm not sure if that's their generic date for an unknown release or the actual date though). [[User:OnixPachirisu|OnixPachirisu]] 18:52, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
:It's just a placeholder so they can take pre-orders. Nintendo already announced a fall (Sept-Nov) release. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 18:57, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

== More Release Date info ==

Per Play-Asia, the Japanese Version's release date is June 23rd, and the US release will be in October: http://www.play-asia.com/paOScore/19-71-8s-49-en-15-Pokemon-43-8s-18-2.html

[[User:Luigi-San|Luigi-San]] 03:09, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
:Well the Japanese release date is true. October does fit for the US, though is Play-asia a good source for information on the US release date? In any case, we'll probably find out about the US release date in a few months. Maybe E3? [[User:Torpoleon|Torpoleon]] 17:38, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
::It's been known for like [https://twitter.com/#!/bulbanews/status/179568320293511168 a month now]. Play-Asia is a decent source but I would still prefer to wait for an official source to confirm it, just for precautionary measures. ♫♪ [[User:Adyniz|'''エイデ''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''ィニズ''']] ♪♫ 17:46, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

== Update ==
Page needs to be updated with new Coro Coro information. [[User:Dragonace|Dragonace]] 06:58, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
:Not yet.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 07:24, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

== Ice cover ==

I don't think the article should say that Unova is engulfed in ice because it says in the Bulbanews article that it is unconfirmed whether that is actually part of the region or it is just there to cover up areas that haven't been revealed yet. [[User:PkmnChmp5|PkmnChmp5]] 23:38, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
:I agree too. There seems to be a confusion. [[User:Han Ji-Wan|Han Ji-Wan]] 23:47, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
From a talk page it says that CoroCoro confirmed the ice is only to cover upcoming stuff--[[User:Poke1|Poke1]] 17:12, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
:::According to {{u|Umeko}}'s Nihongo-fu: ''What Corocoro says in reference to the ice is essentially "What in the world is with the map freezing over? Has something strange happened?!"'' [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 17:26, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

== Towns ==

I am 99.9% certain that there are 3 towns in Southwest Unova, not 2. [[User:Han Ji-Wan|Han Ji-Wan]] 03:15, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
It says at least 2 towns.--[[User:Poke1|Poke1]] 20:58, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

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I just noticed arceus can learn draco meteor holding the ice plate how is this possible?[[User:Poke1|Poke1]] 01:30, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

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How does Kureym change form. The commercial for M15 shows he was shocked lighting and fire?[[User:Poke1|Poke1]] 01:02, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

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{{Town infobox
|name=Nuvema Town
|jpname=カノコタウン
|jptrans=Kanoko Town
|image=Nuvema Town.png
|size=256
|region=Unova
|generation=5
|slogan=The Start of Something Big
|mapdesc=A rural town whose sea breezes give the sense of something coming.
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'''Nuvema Town''' (Japanese: '''カノコタウン''' ''Kanoko Town'') is situated in the southeastern part of the [[Unova]] [[region]]. Like [[Pallet Town]], [[New Bark Town]], [[Littleroot Town]], and [[Twinleaf Town]], Nuvema Town is where the journey begins for the {{player}}. It is where the protagonists of the [[Generation V]] games {{game|Black and White|s}} start their journeys. It is also the hometown of the {{player}} and their friends [[Bianca]] and [[Cheren]].

[[Professor Juniper]]'s laboratory is located here. The town features the same windmills that appear in [[New Bark Town]] in {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}, as well as an view of the ocean. {{p|Pidove}} and {{p|Woobat}} can be seen flying around town during the day and night, respectively.

==Places of interest==
===Player's house===
The player's house lies in the middle of Nuvema Town and is where the player lives before beginning their journey. The [[Mom|player's mother]] lives here. The player, [[Bianca]], and [[Cheren]] get their [[starter Pokémon]] from [[Professor Juniper]] here at the start of their journeys. There are two stories in the house, the first being a living room and kitchen area, while upstairs on the second story is the [[Bedroom|player's bedroom]]. It contains a [[Wii]] controlled with a Wii Remote, connected to a television, and a [[PC]], although this PC only includes information on "Pokémon Basics". [[Looker]] meets the player here and gives a {{DL|Fishing|Super Rod}} after entering the [[Hall of Fame]] for the first time.

===Rivals' houses===
[[Bianca]] and [[Cheren]]'s houses are located at the bottom of Nuvema Town. Bianca's house is home to her mother and father. When the player first visits her house, her father is shouting at her for going on her journey but she goes on her journey anyway.

===Professor Juniper's lab===
[[File:Prof Juniper Lab anime.png|thumb|230px|right|Professor Juniper's lab in the anime]]
[[Professor Juniper]]'s lab lies in the northwest of Nuvema Town; when the player first starts their journey [[Bianca]] and [[Cheren]] are waiting for the player outside. When the trio go inside Professor Juniper is waiting for them. She lets the player [[nickname]] their Pokémon before giving the player a [[Pokédex]]. When spoken to, Professor Juniper asks to see the player's Pokédex and count the number of Pokémon seen; she will give three prizes based on the total number of Pokémon encountered. [[Cedric Juniper]] will be here post-game. He provides a count of Pokémon caught against the [[National Pokédex]]. After the tutorial on how to catch Pokémon, the Patrat Professor Juniper caught can be seen wandering around the lab.

==Demographics==
The population of Nuvema Town is 10 (excluding the {{player}}, [[Bianca]] and [[Cheren]]).

==Items==
{{Itlisth}}
{{Itlistbod|Xtransceiver-{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 2}}|0=m|1=f}}|Gift from [[mom]] at the beginning of the game|BW|display=[[Xtransceiver]]}}
{{Itlistbod|Town Map|Gift from [[mom]] after getting the Pokédex|BW|display={{DL|List of key items in Generation V|Town Map}}}}
{{Itlistbod|TM Normal|Gift from [[Professor Juniper]] for seeing 25 Pokémon|BW|display={{TM|54|False Swipe}}}}
{{Itlistbod|TM Normal|Gift from [[Professor Juniper]] for seeing 60 Pokémon|BW|display={{TM|17|Protect}}}}
{{Itlistbod|TM Normal|Gift from [[Professor Juniper]] for seeing 115 Pokémon|BW|display={{TM|10|Hidden Power}}}}
{{Itlistbod|Super Rod|Gift from [[Looker]] after beating the game|BW|display={{DL|Fishing|Super Rod}}}}
{{Itlistfoot}}

==Pokémon==
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{{catch/div|land|Gift Pokémon}}
{{catch/entry5|495|Snivy|yes|yes|no|Starter|5|all=One|type1=Grass}}
{{catch/entry5|498|Tepig|yes|yes|no|Starter|5|all=One|type1=Fire}}
{{catch/entry5|501|Oshawott|yes|yes|no|Starter|5|all=One|type1=Water}}
{{catch/footer|land}}

==Trainers==
{{MSP|495|Snivy}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Snivy}}:
{{Party
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|headcolor={{white color light}}
|bordercolor={{white color dark}}
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|prize={{Pdollar}}500
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|name=Bianca
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|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
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|ndex=501
|pokemon=Oshawott
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|type1=Water
|ability=Torrent
|move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Tail Whip|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status}}
}}
 
{{Party
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|headcolor={{black color light}}
|bordercolor={{black color dark}}
|sprite=Spr BW Cheren.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}500
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name={{color2|000000|Cheren}}
|game=BW
|location=Nuvema Town
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
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|pokemon=Tepig
|level=5
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|type1=Fire
|ability=Blaze
|move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Tail Whip|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status}}
}}

{{MSP|498|Tepig}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Tepig}}:
{{Party
|color={{white color}}
|headcolor={{white color light}}
|bordercolor={{white color dark}}
|sprite=Spr BW Bianca.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}500
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Bianca
|game=BW
|location=Nuvema Town
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=5
|game=Black
|ndex=495
|pokemon=Snivy
|level=5
|gender=male
|type1=Grass
|ability=Overgrow
|move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Leer|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status}}
}}
 
{{Party
|color={{black color}}
|headcolor={{black color light}}
|bordercolor={{black color dark}}
|sprite=Spr BW Cheren.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}500
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name={{color2|000000|Cheren}}
|game=BW
|location=Nuvema Town
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=5
|game=Black
|ndex=501
|pokemon=Oshawott
|level=5
|gender=male
|type1=Water
|ability=Torrent
|move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Tail Whip|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status}}
}}

{{MSP|501|Oshawott}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Oshawott}}:
{{Party
|color={{white color}}
|headcolor={{white color light}}
|bordercolor={{white color dark}}
|sprite=Spr BW Bianca.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}500
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Bianca
|game=BW
|location=Nuvema Town
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=5
|game=Black
|ndex=498
|pokemon=Tepig
|level=5
|gender=male
|type1=Fire
|ability=Blaze
|move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Tail Whip|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status}}
}}
 
{{Party
|color={{black color}}
|headcolor={{black color light}}
|bordercolor={{black color dark}}
|sprite=Spr BW Cheren.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}500
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name={{color2|000000|Cheren}}
|game=BW
|location=Nuvema Town
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=5
|game=Black
|ndex=495
|pokemon=Snivy
|level=5
|gender=male
|type1=Grass
|ability=Overgrow
|move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Leer|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status}}
}}

====Post-game (weekends)====
{{MSP|495|Snivy}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Snivy}}:
{{Party
|color={{white color}}
|headcolor={{white color light}}
|bordercolor={{white color dark}}
|sprite=Spr BW Bianca.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}6500
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Bianca
|game=BW
|location=Nuvema Town
|pokemon=6
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=5
|game=Black
|ndex=508
|pokemon=Stoutland
|level=63
|gender=female
|type1=Normal
|ability=Intimidate
|move1=Return|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Ice Fang|move2type=Ice|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Surf|move3type=Water|move3cat=Special
|move4=Wild Charge|move4type=Electric|move4cat=Physical}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=5
|game=Black
|ndex=514
|pokemon=Simisear
|level=63
|gender=male
|type1=Fire
|ability=Gluttony
|move1=Return|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Flamethrower|move2type=Fire|move2cat=Special
|move3=Rock Slide|move3type=Rock|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Brick Break|move4type=Fighting|move4cat=Physical}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=5
|game=Black
|ndex=518
|pokemon=Musharna
|level=63
|gender=female
|type1=Psychic
|ability=Synchronize
|move1=Return|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Yawn|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status
|move3=Dream Eater|move3type=Psychic|move3cat=Special
|move4=Psychic|move4type=Psychic|move4cat=Special}}
|pokemon4={{Pokémon
|gen=5
|game=Black
|ndex=620
|pokemon=Mienshao
|level=63
|gender=female
|type1=Fighting
|ability=Inner Focus
|move1=Return|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Drain Punch|move2type=Fighting|move2cat=Physical
|move3=U-turn|move3type=Bug|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Fake Out|move4type=Normal|move4cat=Physical}}
|pokemon5={{Pokémon
|gen=5
|game=Black
|ndex=609
|pokemon=Chandelure
|level=63
|gender=female
|type1=Ghost
|type2=Fire
|ability=Flash Fire
|move1=Return|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Shadow Ball|move2type=Ghost|move2cat=Special
|move3=Overheat|move3type=Fire|move3cat=Special
|move4=Psychic|move4type=Psychic|move4cat=Special}}
|pokemon6={{Pokémon
|gen=5
|game=Black
|ndex=503
|pokemon=Samurott
|level=65
|gender=male
|type1=Water
|ability=Torrent
|move1=Return|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Aerial Ace|move2type=Flying|move2cat=Physical
|move3=X-Scissor|move3type=Bug|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Aqua Tail|move4type=Water|move4cat=Physical}}
}}

{{MSP|498|Tepig}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Tepig}}:
{{Party
|color={{white color}}
|headcolor={{white color light}}
|bordercolor={{white color dark}}
|sprite=Spr BW Bianca.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}6500
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Bianca
|game=BW
|location=Nuvema Town
|pokemon=6
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=5
|game=Black
|ndex=508
|pokemon=Stoutland
|level=63
|gender=female
|type1=Normal
|ability=Intimidate
|move1=Return|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Ice Fang|move2type=Ice|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Surf|move3type=Water|move3cat=Special
|move4=Wild Charge|move4type=Electric|move4cat=Physical}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=5
|game=Black
|ndex=516
|pokemon=Simipour
|level=63
|gender=male
|type1=Water
|ability=Gluttony
|move1=Return|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Surf|move2type=Water|move2cat=Special
|move3=Rock Slide|move3type=Rock|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Brick Break|move4type=Fighting|move4cat=Physical}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=5
|game=Black
|ndex=518
|pokemon=Musharna
|level=63
|gender=female
|type1=Psychic
|ability=Synchronize
|move1=Return|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Yawn|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status
|move3=Dream Eater|move3type=Psychic|move3cat=Special
|move4=Psychic|move4type=Psychic|move4cat=Special}}
|pokemon4={{Pokémon
|gen=5
|game=Black
|ndex=620
|pokemon=Mienshao
|level=63
|gender=female
|type1=Fighting
|ability=Inner Focus
|move1=Return|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Drain Punch|move2type=Fighting|move2cat=Physical
|move3=U-turn|move3type=Bug|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Fake Out|move4type=Normal|move4cat=Physical}}
|pokemon5={{Pokémon
|gen=5
|game=Black
|ndex=609
|pokemon=Chandelure
|level=63
|gender=female
|type1=Ghost
|type2=Fire
|ability=Flash Fire
|move1=Return|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Shadow Ball|move2type=Ghost|move2cat=Special
|move3=Overheat|move3type=Fire|move3cat=Special
|move4=Psychic|move4type=Psychic|move4cat=Special}}
|pokemon6={{Pokémon
|gen=5
|game=Black
|ndex=497
|pokemon=Serperior
|level=65
|gender=male
|type1=Grass
|ability=Overgrow
|move1=Return|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Leaf Storm|move2type=Grass|move2cat=Special
|move3=Dragon Tail|move3type=Dragon|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Coil|move4type=Poison|move4cat=Status}}
}}

{{MSP|501|Oshawott}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Oshawott}}:
{{Party
|color={{white color}}
|headcolor={{white color light}}
|bordercolor={{white color dark}}
|sprite=Spr BW Bianca.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}6500
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Bianca
|game=BW
|location=Nuvema Town
|pokemon=6
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=5
|game=Black
|ndex=508
|pokemon=Stoutland
|level=63
|gender=female
|type1=Normal
|ability=Intimidate
|move1=Return|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Ice Fang|move2type=Ice|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Surf|move3type=Water|move3cat=Special
|move4=Wild Charge|move4type=Electric|move4cat=Physical}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=5
|game=Black
|ndex=512
|pokemon=Simisage
|level=63
|gender=male
|type1=Grass
|ability=Gluttony
|move1=Return|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Energy Ball|move2type=Grass|move2cat=Special
|move3=Rock Slide|move3type=Rock|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Brick Break|move4type=Fighting|move4cat=Physical}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=5
|game=Black
|ndex=518
|pokemon=Musharna
|level=63
|gender=female
|type1=Psychic
|ability=Synchronize
|move1=Return|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Yawn|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status
|move3=Dream Eater|move3type=Psychic|move3cat=Special
|move4=Psychic|move4type=Psychic|move4cat=Special}}
|pokemon4={{Pokémon
|gen=5
|game=Black
|ndex=620
|pokemon=Mienshao
|level=63
|gender=female
|type1=Fighting
|ability=Inner Focus
|move1=Return|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Drain Punch|move2type=Fighting|move2cat=Physical
|move3=U-turn|move3type=Bug|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Fake Out|move4type=Normal|move4cat=Physical}}
|pokemon5={{Pokémon
|gen=5
|game=Black
|ndex=609
|pokemon=Chandelure
|level=63
|gender=female
|type1=Ghost
|type2=Fire
|ability=Flash Fire
|move1=Return|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Shadow Ball|move2type=Ghost|move2cat=Special
|move3=Overheat|move3type=Fire|move3cat=Special
|move4=Psychic|move4type=Psychic|move4cat=Special}}
|pokemon6={{Pokémon
|gen=5
|game=Black
|ndex=500
|pokemon=Emboar
|level=65
|gender=male
|type1=Fire
|type2=Fighting
|ability=Blaze
|move1=Return|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Flare Blitz|move2type=Fire|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Brick Break|move3type=Fighting|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Wild Charge|move4type=Electric|move4cat=Physical}}
}}

==In other media==
===In the anime===
[[File:Nuvema Town anime.png|250px|right|thumb|Nuvema Town in a storm in the anime]]
[[File:Nuvema Town Harbor.png|250px|right|thumb|Nuvema Town Harbor and Airport Tower]]
Nuvema Town made its first appearance in ''[[BW001|In The Shadow of Zekrom!]]''. Part of it is shown to have a harbor and airport tower with an airport. [[Professor Juniper]]'s lab is located here with a variety of Pokémon living there. Nuvema Town also has houses and shops.

{{Ash}}, {{Delia}}, and {{an|Professor Oak}} arrived by airplane, and were greeted by [[Professor Juniper]]. Soon afterwards, Ash left Nuvema Town to begin his journey in Unova.

Nuvema Town is [[Trip]]'s [[hometown]].

===In the manga===
====In the Pokémon Adventures manga====
Nuvema Town appeared in the first chapter of Pokémon Adventures where {{adv|Black}} receives the gift holding the Pokémon {{p|Snivy}}, {{p|Tepig}}, and {{p|Oshawott}}.

==Trivia==
* Nuvema's Japanese town motto is {{tt|様々な点が集う街|Town where various dots gather}}.

==Name origin==
{| class="roundy" align="left" style="background: #519EE2; border: 3px solid #488AC7"
|- align=center
! style="{{roundytl}}" | Language
! Name
! style="{{roundytr|5px}}" | Origin
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Japanese
| カノコタウン ''Kanoko Town''
| 鹿の子 ''kanoko'', a pattern based around white spots ([[Media:Kanoko pattern.jpg|example]]).
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| English
| Nuvema Town
| From the Portuguese word ''nuvem'' (cloud). May also be from the Latin ''novum'' (new).
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| French
| Renouet
| From the word ''"Renouer"'' (revive)
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| German
| Avenitia
| From the French word ''Aventure'' (adventure).
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Italian
| Soffiolieve
| Literally means ''mild breath''.
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Spanish
| Pueblo Arcilla
| From ''Arcilla'', clay.
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Korean
| 마름꽃마을 ''Mareumggot Maeul''
| 마름꽃 (''mareumggot'') is a combination of two words; 마름 (''mareum'') means ''a bundle of woven straw for thatching'' and 꽃 (''ggot'') means ''flower''.
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Chinese ({{tt|Mandarin|Taiwan}})
| 鹿子鎮 ''Lùzi Zhèn''
| From 鹿の子 ''kanoko''. 鹿子 means ''fawn''.
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|}
{{-}}
{{Unova}} 
{{Project Cities and Towns notice}}

[[Category:Unova locations]]
[[Category:Black and White locations]]
[[Category:Towns]]

[[de:Avenitia]]
[[es:Pueblo Arcilla]]
[[fr:Renouet]]
[[it:Soffiolieve]]
[[ja:カノコタウン]]
[[pl:Nuvema Town]]

Nuvema Town

2012-04-13T17:23:04Z

Poke1: /* In the anime */

{{bad picture|info box|Low quality scan from a game guide}}
{{Town infobox
|name=Nuvema Town
|jpname=カノコタウン
|jptrans=Kanoko Town
|image=Nuvema Town.png
|size=256
|region=Unova
|generation=5
|slogan=The Start of Something Big
|mapdesc=A rural town whose sea breezes give the sense of something coming.
|north=Route 1
|regionnorth=Unova
|colordark=488AC7
|colormed=519EE2
|colorlight=7FBCD2
|map=Unova Nuvema Town Map.png
}}

'''Nuvema Town''' (Japanese: '''カノコタウン''' ''Kanoko Town'') is situated in the southeastern part of the [[Unova]] [[region]]. Like [[Pallet Town]], [[New Bark Town]], [[Littleroot Town]], and [[Twinleaf Town]], Nuvema Town is where the journey begins for the {{player}}. It is where the protagonists of the [[Generation V]] games {{game|Black and White|s}} start their journeys. It is also the hometown of the {{player}} and their friends [[Bianca]] and [[Cheren]].

[[Professor Juniper]]'s laboratory is located here. The town features the same windmills that appear in [[New Bark Town]] in {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}, as well as an overlook by the ocean. {{p|Pidove}} and {{p|Woobat}} can be seen flying around town during the day and night, respectively.

==Places of interest==
===Player's house===
The player's house lies in the middle of Nuvema Town and is where the player lives before beginning their journey. The [[Mom|player's mother]] lives here. The player, [[Bianca]], and [[Cheren]] get their [[starter Pokémon]] from [[Professor Juniper]] here at the start of their journeys. There are two stories in the house, the first being a living room and kitchen area, while upstairs on the second story is the [[Bedroom|player's bedroom]]. It contains a [[Wii]] controlled with a Wii Remote, connected to a television, and a [[PC]], although this PC only includes information on "Pokémon Basics". [[Looker]] meets the player here and gives a {{DL|Fishing|Super Rod}} after entering the [[Hall of Fame]] for the first time.

===Rivals' houses===
[[Bianca]] and [[Cheren]]'s houses are located at the bottom of Nuvema Town. Bianca's house is home to her mother and father. When the player first visits her house, her father is shouting at her for going on her journey but she goes on her journey anyway.

===Professor Juniper's lab===
[[File:Prof Juniper Lab anime.png|thumb|230px|right|Professor Juniper's lab in the anime]]
[[Professor Juniper]]'s lab lies in the northwest of Nuvema Town; when the player first starts their journey [[Bianca]] and [[Cheren]] are waiting for the player outside. When the trio go inside Professor Juniper is waiting for them. She lets the player [[nickname]] their Pokémon before giving the player a [[Pokédex]]. When spoken to, Professor Juniper asks to see the player's Pokédex and count the number of Pokémon seen; she will give three prizes based on the total number of Pokémon encountered. [[Cedric Juniper]] will be here post-game. He provides a count of Pokémon caught against the [[National Pokédex]]. After the tutorial on how to catch Pokémon, the Patrat Professor Juniper caught can be seen wandering around the lab.

==Demographics==
The population of Nuvema Town is 10 (excluding the {{player}}, [[Bianca]] and [[Cheren]]).

==Items==
{{Itlisth}}
{{Itlistbod|Xtransceiver-{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 2}}|0=m|1=f}}|Gift from [[mom]] at the beginning of the game|BW|display=[[Xtransceiver]]}}
{{Itlistbod|Town Map|Gift from [[mom]] after getting the Pokédex|BW|display={{DL|List of key items in Generation V|Town Map}}}}
{{Itlistbod|TM Normal|Gift from [[Professor Juniper]] for seeing 25 Pokémon|BW|display={{TM|54|False Swipe}}}}
{{Itlistbod|TM Normal|Gift from [[Professor Juniper]] for seeing 60 Pokémon|BW|display={{TM|17|Protect}}}}
{{Itlistbod|TM Normal|Gift from [[Professor Juniper]] for seeing 115 Pokémon|BW|display={{TM|10|Hidden Power}}}}
{{Itlistbod|Super Rod|Gift from [[Looker]] after beating the game|BW|display={{DL|Fishing|Super Rod}}}}
{{Itlistfoot}}

==Pokémon==
{{catch/header|land|seasons=yes}}
{{catch/div|land|Gift Pokémon}}
{{catch/entry5|495|Snivy|yes|yes|no|Starter|5|all=One|type1=Grass}}
{{catch/entry5|498|Tepig|yes|yes|no|Starter|5|all=One|type1=Fire}}
{{catch/entry5|501|Oshawott|yes|yes|no|Starter|5|all=One|type1=Water}}
{{catch/footer|land}}

==Trainers==
{{MSP|495|Snivy}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Snivy}}:
{{Party
|color={{white color}}
|headcolor={{white color light}}
|bordercolor={{white color dark}}
|sprite=Spr BW Bianca.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}500
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Bianca
|game=BW
|location=Nuvema Town
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=5
|game=Black
|ndex=501
|pokemon=Oshawott
|level=5
|gender=male
|type1=Water
|ability=Torrent
|move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Tail Whip|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status}}
}}
 
{{Party
|color={{black color}}
|headcolor={{black color light}}
|bordercolor={{black color dark}}
|sprite=Spr BW Cheren.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}500
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name={{color2|000000|Cheren}}
|game=BW
|location=Nuvema Town
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=5
|game=Black
|ndex=498
|pokemon=Tepig
|level=5
|gender=male
|type1=Fire
|ability=Blaze
|move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Tail Whip|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status}}
}}

{{MSP|498|Tepig}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Tepig}}:
{{Party
|color={{white color}}
|headcolor={{white color light}}
|bordercolor={{white color dark}}
|sprite=Spr BW Bianca.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}500
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Bianca
|game=BW
|location=Nuvema Town
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=5
|game=Black
|ndex=495
|pokemon=Snivy
|level=5
|gender=male
|type1=Grass
|ability=Overgrow
|move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Leer|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status}}
}}
 
{{Party
|color={{black color}}
|headcolor={{black color light}}
|bordercolor={{black color dark}}
|sprite=Spr BW Cheren.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}500
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name={{color2|000000|Cheren}}
|game=BW
|location=Nuvema Town
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=5
|game=Black
|ndex=501
|pokemon=Oshawott
|level=5
|gender=male
|type1=Water
|ability=Torrent
|move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Tail Whip|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status}}
}}

{{MSP|501|Oshawott}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Oshawott}}:
{{Party
|color={{white color}}
|headcolor={{white color light}}
|bordercolor={{white color dark}}
|sprite=Spr BW Bianca.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}500
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Bianca
|game=BW
|location=Nuvema Town
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=5
|game=Black
|ndex=498
|pokemon=Tepig
|level=5
|gender=male
|type1=Fire
|ability=Blaze
|move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Tail Whip|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status}}
}}
 
{{Party
|color={{black color}}
|headcolor={{black color light}}
|bordercolor={{black color dark}}
|sprite=Spr BW Cheren.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}500
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name={{color2|000000|Cheren}}
|game=BW
|location=Nuvema Town
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=5
|game=Black
|ndex=495
|pokemon=Snivy
|level=5
|gender=male
|type1=Grass
|ability=Overgrow
|move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Leer|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status}}
}}

====Post-game (weekends)====
{{MSP|495|Snivy}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Snivy}}:
{{Party
|color={{white color}}
|headcolor={{white color light}}
|bordercolor={{white color dark}}
|sprite=Spr BW Bianca.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}6500
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Bianca
|game=BW
|location=Nuvema Town
|pokemon=6
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=5
|game=Black
|ndex=508
|pokemon=Stoutland
|level=63
|gender=female
|type1=Normal
|ability=Intimidate
|move1=Return|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Ice Fang|move2type=Ice|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Surf|move3type=Water|move3cat=Special
|move4=Wild Charge|move4type=Electric|move4cat=Physical}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=5
|game=Black
|ndex=514
|pokemon=Simisear
|level=63
|gender=male
|type1=Fire
|ability=Gluttony
|move1=Return|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Flamethrower|move2type=Fire|move2cat=Special
|move3=Rock Slide|move3type=Rock|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Brick Break|move4type=Fighting|move4cat=Physical}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=5
|game=Black
|ndex=518
|pokemon=Musharna
|level=63
|gender=female
|type1=Psychic
|ability=Synchronize
|move1=Return|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Yawn|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status
|move3=Dream Eater|move3type=Psychic|move3cat=Special
|move4=Psychic|move4type=Psychic|move4cat=Special}}
|pokemon4={{Pokémon
|gen=5
|game=Black
|ndex=620
|pokemon=Mienshao
|level=63
|gender=female
|type1=Fighting
|ability=Inner Focus
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|move2=Drain Punch|move2type=Fighting|move2cat=Physical
|move3=U-turn|move3type=Bug|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Fake Out|move4type=Normal|move4cat=Physical}}
|pokemon5={{Pokémon
|gen=5
|game=Black
|ndex=609
|pokemon=Chandelure
|level=63
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|move4=Psychic|move4type=Psychic|move4cat=Special}}
|pokemon6={{Pokémon
|gen=5
|game=Black
|ndex=503
|pokemon=Samurott
|level=65
|gender=male
|type1=Water
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|move2=Aerial Ace|move2type=Flying|move2cat=Physical
|move3=X-Scissor|move3type=Bug|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Aqua Tail|move4type=Water|move4cat=Physical}}
}}

{{MSP|498|Tepig}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Tepig}}:
{{Party
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|headcolor={{white color light}}
|bordercolor={{white color dark}}
|sprite=Spr BW Bianca.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}6500
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Bianca
|game=BW
|location=Nuvema Town
|pokemon=6
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=5
|game=Black
|ndex=508
|pokemon=Stoutland
|level=63
|gender=female
|type1=Normal
|ability=Intimidate
|move1=Return|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Ice Fang|move2type=Ice|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Surf|move3type=Water|move3cat=Special
|move4=Wild Charge|move4type=Electric|move4cat=Physical}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=5
|game=Black
|ndex=516
|pokemon=Simipour
|level=63
|gender=male
|type1=Water
|ability=Gluttony
|move1=Return|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Surf|move2type=Water|move2cat=Special
|move3=Rock Slide|move3type=Rock|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Brick Break|move4type=Fighting|move4cat=Physical}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=5
|game=Black
|ndex=518
|pokemon=Musharna
|level=63
|gender=female
|type1=Psychic
|ability=Synchronize
|move1=Return|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Yawn|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status
|move3=Dream Eater|move3type=Psychic|move3cat=Special
|move4=Psychic|move4type=Psychic|move4cat=Special}}
|pokemon4={{Pokémon
|gen=5
|game=Black
|ndex=620
|pokemon=Mienshao
|level=63
|gender=female
|type1=Fighting
|ability=Inner Focus
|move1=Return|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Drain Punch|move2type=Fighting|move2cat=Physical
|move3=U-turn|move3type=Bug|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Fake Out|move4type=Normal|move4cat=Physical}}
|pokemon5={{Pokémon
|gen=5
|game=Black
|ndex=609
|pokemon=Chandelure
|level=63
|gender=female
|type1=Ghost
|type2=Fire
|ability=Flash Fire
|move1=Return|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Shadow Ball|move2type=Ghost|move2cat=Special
|move3=Overheat|move3type=Fire|move3cat=Special
|move4=Psychic|move4type=Psychic|move4cat=Special}}
|pokemon6={{Pokémon
|gen=5
|game=Black
|ndex=497
|pokemon=Serperior
|level=65
|gender=male
|type1=Grass
|ability=Overgrow
|move1=Return|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Leaf Storm|move2type=Grass|move2cat=Special
|move3=Dragon Tail|move3type=Dragon|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Coil|move4type=Poison|move4cat=Status}}
}}

{{MSP|501|Oshawott}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Oshawott}}:
{{Party
|color={{white color}}
|headcolor={{white color light}}
|bordercolor={{white color dark}}
|sprite=Spr BW Bianca.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}6500
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|name=Bianca
|game=BW
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|pokemon=6
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=5
|game=Black
|ndex=508
|pokemon=Stoutland
|level=63
|gender=female
|type1=Normal
|ability=Intimidate
|move1=Return|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Ice Fang|move2type=Ice|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Surf|move3type=Water|move3cat=Special
|move4=Wild Charge|move4type=Electric|move4cat=Physical}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=5
|game=Black
|ndex=512
|pokemon=Simisage
|level=63
|gender=male
|type1=Grass
|ability=Gluttony
|move1=Return|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Energy Ball|move2type=Grass|move2cat=Special
|move3=Rock Slide|move3type=Rock|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Brick Break|move4type=Fighting|move4cat=Physical}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=5
|game=Black
|ndex=518
|pokemon=Musharna
|level=63
|gender=female
|type1=Psychic
|ability=Synchronize
|move1=Return|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Yawn|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status
|move3=Dream Eater|move3type=Psychic|move3cat=Special
|move4=Psychic|move4type=Psychic|move4cat=Special}}
|pokemon4={{Pokémon
|gen=5
|game=Black
|ndex=620
|pokemon=Mienshao
|level=63
|gender=female
|type1=Fighting
|ability=Inner Focus
|move1=Return|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Drain Punch|move2type=Fighting|move2cat=Physical
|move3=U-turn|move3type=Bug|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Fake Out|move4type=Normal|move4cat=Physical}}
|pokemon5={{Pokémon
|gen=5
|game=Black
|ndex=609
|pokemon=Chandelure
|level=63
|gender=female
|type1=Ghost
|type2=Fire
|ability=Flash Fire
|move1=Return|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Shadow Ball|move2type=Ghost|move2cat=Special
|move3=Overheat|move3type=Fire|move3cat=Special
|move4=Psychic|move4type=Psychic|move4cat=Special}}
|pokemon6={{Pokémon
|gen=5
|game=Black
|ndex=500
|pokemon=Emboar
|level=65
|gender=male
|type1=Fire
|type2=Fighting
|ability=Blaze
|move1=Return|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Flare Blitz|move2type=Fire|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Brick Break|move3type=Fighting|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Wild Charge|move4type=Electric|move4cat=Physical}}
}}

==In other media==
===In the anime===
[[File:Nuvema Town anime.png|250px|right|thumb|Nuvema Town in a storm in the anime]]
[[File:Nuvema Town Harbor.png|250px|right|thumb|Nuvema Town Harbor and Airport Tower]]
Nuvema Town made its first appearance in ''[[BW001|In The Shadow of Zekrom!]]''. Part of it is shown to have a harbor and airport tower with an airport. [[Professor Juniper]]'s lab is located here with a variety of Pokémon living there. Nuvema Town also has houses and shops.

{{Ash}}, {{Delia}}, and {{an|Professor Oak}} arrived by airplane, and were greeted by [[Professor Juniper]]. Soon afterwards, Ash left Nuvema Town to begin his journey in Unova.

Nuvema Town is [[Trip]]'s [[hometown]].

===In the manga===
====In the Pokémon Adventures manga====
Nuvema Town appeared in the first chapter of Pokémon Adventures where {{adv|Black}} receives the gift holding the Pokémon {{p|Snivy}}, {{p|Tepig}}, and {{p|Oshawott}}.

==Trivia==
* Nuvema's Japanese town motto is {{tt|様々な点が集う街|Town where various dots gather}}.

==Name origin==
{| class="roundy" align="left" style="background: #519EE2; border: 3px solid #488AC7"
|- align=center
! style="{{roundytl}}" | Language
! Name
! style="{{roundytr|5px}}" | Origin
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Japanese
| カノコタウン ''Kanoko Town''
| 鹿の子 ''kanoko'', a pattern based around white spots ([[Media:Kanoko pattern.jpg|example]]).
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| English
| Nuvema Town
| From the Portuguese word ''nuvem'' (cloud). May also be from the Latin ''novum'' (new).
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| French
| Renouet
| From the word ''"Renouer"'' (revive)
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| German
| Avenitia
| From the French word ''Aventure'' (adventure).
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Italian
| Soffiolieve
| Literally means ''mild breath''.
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Spanish
| Pueblo Arcilla
| From ''Arcilla'', clay.
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Korean
| 마름꽃마을 ''Mareumggot Maeul''
| 마름꽃 (''mareumggot'') is a combination of two words; 마름 (''mareum'') means ''a bundle of woven straw for thatching'' and 꽃 (''ggot'') means ''flower''.
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Chinese ({{tt|Mandarin|Taiwan}})
| 鹿子鎮 ''Lùzi Zhèn''
| From 鹿の子 ''kanoko''. 鹿子 means ''fawn''.
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|}
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{{Unova}} 
{{Project Cities and Towns notice}}

[[Category:Unova locations]]
[[Category:Black and White locations]]
[[Category:Towns]]

[[de:Avenitia]]
[[es:Pueblo Arcilla]]
[[fr:Renouet]]
[[it:Soffiolieve]]
[[ja:カノコタウン]]
[[pl:Nuvema Town]]

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2012-04-13T17:12:39Z

Poke1: /* Ice cover */

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2012-04-13T14:56:35Z

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2012-04-13T14:54:02Z

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2012-04-01T01:44:17Z

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== Arceus ==

I just noticed arceus can learn draco meteor holding the ice plate how is this possible?[[User:Poke1|Poke1]] 01:30, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

== User page ==

How do you edit the user page i don't get the userspace policy?[[User:Poke1|Poke1]] 15:42, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

== Kuyrem ==

How does Kureym change form. The commercial for M15 shows he was shocked lighting and fire?[[User:Poke1|Poke1]] 01:02, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

== Your User page ==
Is ''very'' familiar. While there isn't any rules about it, it is preferred that you ask users before directly copying their personal page layout and such. Many users try to be unique with their userpages and not only is it upsetting when they see that someone directly copied, but that it looses that uniqueness. I'm fine with you being inspired by my page, but next time could you please ask or at least let me know? Cheers! [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 20:28, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

== User page ==

so can i still use it? And how do you make that kind of stuff? [[User:Poke1|Poke1]] 00:20, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

== mainspace ==

how do i edit the mainspace?--[[User:Poke1|Poke1]] 01:44, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

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2012-03-31T00:23:35Z

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2012-03-31T00:20:06Z

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2012-03-20T01:07:38Z

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2012-03-20T01:02:36Z

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2012-03-20T01:01:59Z

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2012-03-20T00:54:31Z

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[[File:Pokemon_red_box.jpg|right|thumb|Poke1's first Pokémon game played]]

User:Poke1

2012-03-20T00:46:35Z

Poke1: /* Intro */

== ''"There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle."'' ==

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Hi i am poke1!Thanks for visiting my page! I am a new person here. My first game was Pokemon red and I played all Pokemon games ever since. I usually play Pokemon black to keep myself busy. To me My favorite Pokemon is every Pokemon! My first Pokemon I ever heard of was Charmander. I first heard of Pokemon when i got a deck called Terra Firma as a gift. Now I have 2591 pokemon cards in all! ☆★☆★--[[User:Poke1|Poke1]] 23:31, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

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2012-03-18T23:31:17Z

Poke1: /* Intro */

''There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle.''

{{CharInfobox|
color={{black color}} |
corecolor={{black color light}} |
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Hi i am poke1!Thanks for visiting my page! I am a new person here. My first game was Pokemon red and I played all Pokemon games ever since. I usually play Pokemon black to keep myself busy. To me My favorite Pokemon is every Pokemon! My first Pokemon I ever heard of was Charmander. I first heard of Pokemon when i got a deck called Terra Firma as a gift. Now I have 2591 pokemon cards in all! ☆★☆★--[[User:Poke1|Poke1]] 23:31, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

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2012-03-18T23:22:45Z

Poke1:

''There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle.''

{{CharInfobox|
color={{black color}} |
corecolor={{black color light}} |
bordercolor={{black color dark}} |
name=Jonathan |
slogan=Let's battle! |
image=Black White Hilbert.png |
size=185px |
gender=Male |
hometown=[[Nuvema Town]] |
region=[[Unova]] |
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[[File:646Kyurem-White2.png]]

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Hi i am poke1! I am a new person here. My first game was Pokemon red and I played all Pokemon games ever since. I usually play Pokemon black to keep myself busy. To me My favorite Pokemon is every Pokemon! My first Pokemon I ever heard of was Charmander.--[[User:Poke1|Poke1]] 23:22, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

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2012-03-18T21:23:55Z

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