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I rendered the scan of Soul (I guess that's what we're all calling her now) if you want to use it...

[[File:HGSS_Soul.png]]
:The top of her head's cut off. Can you fix that? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:35, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
::Um....shouldn't we wait until a REAL source gives her name? Or has one been given? --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 03:48, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
:::There was a poll, and it is mentioned that there is no official name yet, and this is a fanname. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 03:54, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

I can't do anything about the hat because it was like that in the scan. It went off the page. (Sorry, I'm new to this wiki stuff, so I don't know how to do a lot...)
:How about [http://bayimg.com/image/aapfgaabl.jpg this one], or should we just wait for the official individual art from [[Ken Sugimori]] to be released.--[[User talk:AOS|AOS]] 20:34, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
::If you click through to the archives from the image's page, you'll notice that it's already been updated to the official art, taken from the HG/SS official site. There's just something up with the way images are being shown on the 'pedia. '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 21:35, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

== Name ==

According to the screen revealed in CoroCoro and Famitsu, Soul seems to be the boy's name... --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 07:07, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
:Sigh. You know as well as I do that "Leaf" is among the optional names for Red in LeafGreen, too, don't you? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:28, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
::Well. I know that it doesn't indicate anything. But I noted it here to show that the assumption that her name will be "Soul" is nothing more than gunjumping. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 07:30, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Either way, we needed a name for her page and we couldn't really name her "That girl who replaced Kris causing all the fans to whine (game)". '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:34, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

I really think for the time being we should call her the "Un-named female trainer", or something like that. Besides, we can't assume her name based on what [[Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen versions|one generation]] did.[[User:Zabbethx|Zabbethx]] 15:16, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
:The name is pretty much a place-holder (no user is going to be willing to search something like "Un-named female trainer" just to find the this article) at this point, which is why it is clearly tagged in the article to avoid confusion. And if the precedent from gen III holds, the article will have already had its proper name, and if not, it can very easily be corrected. [[User:Trainer-c|Trainer-c]] 15:25, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
::Check [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Talk:Leaf_(game) this] if you don't mind since I gave my opinion as well as a few facts (at least one XD). [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 15:51, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
:::I knew it! her name was going to be Soul just like I predicted in Kris's Talk Page. [[User:AlienX2008|AlienX2008]] 17:52, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Actually we don't know for a fact yet AlienX2008. While there is a 99% chance of her name being Soul (which I am starting to think is her name as opposed to Heart which I previously thought), there is no official word yet. Right now Soul is just her fan-name.[[User:Zabbethx|Zabbethx]] 18:49, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
:Is it Heart? I heard that according to those scans that the Pokemon website has,it has the Gold character with the default name "Soul"? [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 22:56, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Personally, i hope its Heart. But i'd be ok with Soul. {{unsigned|Golden}}

I personally think this article should be called "Female character (Heart Gold/Soul Silver)" since we don't know her name yet.It's best we avoid misinformation until more is revealed. - seriousexpression
:There would be no point in having an article then. Although I think it is jumping the gun as well, the article does say that it is a fan-made name. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 00:35, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
::This article may be jumping the gun slightly, maybe, but truly, I'd rather have done it now just in case some dork comes along and wonders where she is. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:28, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
:::We can always change it later.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 00:48, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

I've seen her called Mariko on the Japanese site Pixiv. I haven't heard it anywhere else; is this another fan nickname, or is it official? --[[User:Lime|Lime]] 21:42, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
:Might be one of the default names. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:47, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Isn't the female referred to as like Haato and the male referred to as Souru? [[User:Erik Destler|~*~ Erik Destler ~*~]] 22:48, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

== New screenshot ==

Can someone translate what she is saying in the new screenshot, please? This may give us some kind of information about her... [[User:Mr. Charlie|'''Mr. Charlie''']]([[User_Talk:Mr. Charlie|''TalkToMe'']]) 20:51, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v727/joodude/1245089067561.jpg

This one? -[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 20:58, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
::Yes. I've tried to translate it, but realized soon enough that translating anything that does not use our alphabet is not for me. I got "Steer!". Please. [[User:Mr. Charlie|'''Mr. Charlie''']]([[User_Talk:Mr. Charlie|''TalkToMe'']]) 21:01, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
:::According to the gallery on {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}} it reads ''"Yeah! How about you show your mom, too?"'' '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 21:09, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

== About Soul...==

I know this is simply speculation,but Soul looks a lot like that [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/1/1a/Playergirl.png girl] that replaces Red if you insert a Crystal cart. with Kris into the game,right? Okay,maybe not a lot but still..Leaf is obviously based off that girl playable character that was left out of the first generation,right? Maybe Soul is based off this girl? If so,could we put it in the article? [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 20:54, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
:A. This comparison is an opinion, and B. No, because it's an opinion it cannot go into the article. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 20:57, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
::Oh,okay,just making sure. [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 20:58, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Sketch: If that's so, then why is the following paragraph in the article:
:::"Due to her similar hair, it is believed by some fans that she is to Kris what Leaf is to Blue: a vastly redesigned version of her. As Kris's Special counterpart Crystal likewise had brown hair initially (though it was changed to blue to match her counterparts of Kris and Marina), and currently has brown hair again." -[[User:Spideym|Spideym]] 21:55, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
::::Ask the Echidna. He put it in. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 21:57, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::If anything, Stadium Boy and Stadium Girl are just that. Stadium people. Because this was before they identified your game as your game through the Trainer's appearance. Plus, since RGBY are playable with Stadium 2, it'd look really odd to see Red face... himself. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:49, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

==SERIOUS BUSINESS==
I just read one of the scans's captions on the [[Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions]]page. It said:

'''Inside Professor Elm's laboratory. "Oh, Soul! I've been waiting for you to come!"''

Does this mean the name is now set in stone? I don't want to edit it straight away incase this isn't the case. - ''[[User:Lucadan|Lucadan]] ([[User talk:Lucadan|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Lucadan|contribs]])'' 15:42, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

:New stuff goes at the bottom. Also, look at that picture. Elm is talking to GOLD, not [[Soul|this new girl <s>that no one cares about</s>]]. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 20:21, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
::Most likely, "Soul" is a default name for Gold, like how "Diamond" and "Pearl" are default names for Lucas. '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 20:30, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
:::{{tt|Exactly.|Which probably means that was a screenshot from SoulSilver.}} --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 20:46, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

So, why not change the article to Heart? [[User:Erik Destler|~*~ Erik Destler ~*~]] 22:49, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
:That will likely be a default name for '''both''' in ''HeartGold'', just like Soul will be in ''SS'', just as “Red” was a default for both the [[Red (game)|boy]] '''and''' the [[Leaf (game)|girl]] in ''FireRed'' and “Green” for both in ''LeafGreen''. --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 13:11, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
== Final proof ==

Eusine in HGSS. Means Crystal stuff is there. Means Soul is Kris. Yes or yes? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:27, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
: Hmm... Let's do it. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 19:35, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
::I think we should wait for CoroCoro to come out before making any decisions just yet.--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[User talk:RexRacer|Racer''']] 19:44, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Three days? Good for me. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:44, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
::::Waiting for concrete proof would be ideal. If it explicitly mentions that it's Kris, then go for it. Otherwise... well isn't that a lot of speculation that we can enjoy ;) '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 19:51, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::What does Eusine have to do with anything? Just because he's from Crystal doesn't mean that everything else is. They could just be simply putting some events from Crystal into this game. Chris is right. Wait for concrete proof. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 20:10, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::The main argument in the past was that this girl must be a new character because HeartGold and SoulSilver are not remakes of Crystal, so anything that was in Crystal can't be in HG/SS. Now that that argument has been put to rest, there's really no reason left to believe she isn't Kris. At the very least, a merge would solve the problem that this page is located at an unofficial title.[[User:Jeff|-Jeff]][[User talk:Jeff|(talk)]] 20:56, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::...No reason? How about the fact that Soul looks NOTHING like Kris, unlike the other redesigned characters? Or the fact that that her clothes DON'T look like they're based on Kris' ones, unlike the other player characters' outfits? Or the fact that she would be the only player character whose hair color was changed to a totally different one in a remake (Red had brown hair in Pokémon Stadium 2, so no, FR/LG didn't change his hair from black to brown), and even compared to the few characters who had a hair color change (Lance and Lorelei), the change between from Kris' and Soul's hair color is too drastic (Lance and Lorelei's new hair colors [reddish pink and red respectively] could be obtained by changing the tonality of the original ones [reddish orange and purple], but you can't get Soul's hair color [brown] by changing the tonality of Kris' [blue])? - [[User:Pokéman|Pokéman]] 21:34, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Kris's hair color was originally dark brown before they changed it to fit with the "Crystal" theme. '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 21:39, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::::When did game Kris have brown hair? - [[User:Pokéman|Pokéman]] 21:41, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::The manga. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 22:19, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::Which should be irrelevant because Special Crystal is based on game Kris, and not the other way around. - [[User:Pokéman|Pokéman]] 22:25, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::However, she did still have Brown hair...--[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 22:32, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::::Yeah, there was something about a prototype female character similar to Kris that had brown hair, but I haven't found a picture so far x.x '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 22:35, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::::PsychicRider: And anime Bill had green hair. So?
:::::::::::::Sol: You mean the "prototypical" artwork that was revealed years before Gold and Silver came out?:
:::::::::::::http://web.archive.org/web/20041021125709/http://pokefor.greenchu.de/meowth346/gbc/alpha/alpha_girltrainer.png
::::::::::::: - [[User:Pokéman|Pokéman]] 22:43, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
Bill has nothing to do with this...He may or may not be getting new artwork...--[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 23:08, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
:Neither have Pokémon Special or Special Crystal. The manga has even less influence in the games than the anime. - [[User:Pokéman|Pokéman]] 23:13, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
::You can't even keep your point. Special Crys did get a change...She had brown that switched to blue...Oh, kinda like this, but reversed...hm...--[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 23:19, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
:::"You can't even keep your point." < What? - [[User:Pokéman|Pokéman]] 23:27, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
::::Guys, how much like Red did Red look? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:20, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::A lot. Both original and FRLG Red have brown spiky hair, red-and-white jacket and cap, black shirt, blue pants... - [[User:Pokéman|Pokéman]] 23:27, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::Just wanted to say, I support the merge, for what that's worth. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 00:33, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
:The whole thing with PokéSpe Crystal's Blue/Brown hair aside, I'm going to side with Chris and Kenji-girl and suggest waiting until we at least get more concrete evidence pertaining specifically to this character -- such as [[Kris_(game)#Optional_names_for_Kris|sharing default names]], a mention on [http://www.gamefreak.co.jp/blog/dir/ Masuda's blog] (or preferably [http://www.gamefreak.co.jp/blog/art/ Sugimori's] with some early concept art, just to see that blog updated more than once a year), etc. -- before accepting that Kris and Soul are the same character.
::Not even Leaf's design is changed as drastically from the prototype RGB girl -- Leaf and RBG girl both have long brown hair, a mini-skirt, and no sleeves -- as Soul is from Kris. [[User:Quagbert|Quagbert]] 02:41, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
we already jumped the gun by making this page, so we might as well keep it until everything is 100% confirmed. I don't see how Crystal stuff being in these remakes automatically makes Soul Kris. What is so bad about waiting. And just throwing this in, but how about in the future we actually wait instead of having to go through this again. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 02:13, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Waiting would mean someone comes along and makes an article at "NOO GURL (Hartgald/soulver)" that's an absolute mess. And considering the fandom's whining about "SHE'S NOT KRIS" and all that bullcrap... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 17:29, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
She's not Kris. EoT. I don't see how Eusine has anything to do with that. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 17:34, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
:What evidence is there that she's not Kris, aside from their appearances? We've come up with evidence to indicate she is, the appearance of Crystal elements and her appearing with Eusine in a picture being a few. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 00:06, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
::It's not any evidence. It's just a failed comparative logic. Come on, we didn't even believe CONFIRMED dub title when it revealed [[Barry (anime)|Barry]]'s name. We didn't move his page until the airing of the episode. So, why are we supposed to believe some failed logic? Because the main 'Pedia admin is supporter of the "Soul is Kris" theory? It is NOT an evidence. As long as it's not blatantly stated that she is design-raped Kris after a nuclear explosion, we should not believe any failed "evidences" like that. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 08:41, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
:::I just want to say that I oppose the merge. They are obviously different people, and like said above, if you do merge them people will be saying "WTH! SOUL ISNT KRIS" and making fail pages named "new gil(hgss)" --[[User:Blake|Blake]] 13:46, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
:''An'' evidence? Sheez. Anyway, Maxim, I'm still not seeing any logic coming from you, aside from "they look different." Well, you also had "Not a Crystal remake," but that's obviously no longer the case. We've got "They don't look ''that'' different," "They fill the same role in-game," "Kris appears in a shot with Eusine," "Other characters have undergone drastic visual changes," etc.
:Please, if you have an argument, present it. It doesn't seem like you're using any logic, and I'd love for that to change. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 17:22, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
::We have no proof that Soul is Kris, or even that Kris wont even be a character. She might pop up somewhere else, like Blue being a Gym Leader. --[[User:Blake|Blake]] 19:23, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
:::We also have no proof that Soul is '''''NOT''''' Kris. Blue popped up as Gym Leader 3 years after he began his journey. This is back at the beginning of Gold/Kris's journey. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 19:27, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
::::Both sides of the argument piss off the other side, so maybe we should leave this as is for now. We have no evidence to support either side, and all that is happening now are insults on how the other side isn't right. So just drop the subject for now, and we will pick it up once something in the Pokémon world actually happens. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 19:34, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
Does it really matter if she is Kris or not. At least they are remaking G/S. That's what matters. I would love to have Kris back. Soul and Kris have similarities. They probably did that on purpose. To make her look similar to Kris. So until she is confirmed to be Kris, if she is her, i say no merger yet.--[[User:Pokéboy93|Pokéboy93]] 04:58, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::I say no to any merger at this point. There is strong evidence in favour of her being Kris, however it is nowhere near confirmed. I say we leave it as it is for the moment, otherwise, the situation could arise where we merge the pages, and then have the messy job of unmerging them, and removing all the Soul stuff from Kris's page. Surely you guys can wait til September 12th to merge the page, just to make sure your doing it when it is confirmed, and not another instance where Bulbapedia jumps the gun.
But I have a question, what will be the proof for either side, when the game comes out, if Kris isn't her name, when she is the NPC, will that confirm she's not Kris, equally if Kris is in her optional names, will that confirm she is Kris? [[User:Max King|Max King]] 14:17, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::Personally, I believe it's what her NPC "helper" name is, what will determine who she is. Be it Kris, Soul or something totally different. '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 18:34, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::@ Max King: No, it wouldn't prove a damned thing. If you'll recall, the player character from Diamond and Pearl have Ash/Satoshi or Gary/Shigeru amongst their default names, but that most certainly does not make them Red or Green. Player-Character Girl should use this name for now, since the mob of fanon has spoken. It'll be changed later whether they like it or not. [[User:Fishman|Fishman]] 13:44, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::If I may add my opinion into this, I don't believe for a second they are the same and oppose the merge. In FireRed/LeafGreen, Red and Leaf were recognisable as who they were meant to be (albeit Leaf never appeared in the original, but there WAS beta artwork of her); Red still had a red jacket, red hat, blue pants; and Leaf still had the boots and same hairstyle. On the other hand, Soul resembles Kris in no way, shape, or form beyond the hair, and even then...I don't see the hair similarities beyond pigtails. Alongside that, if Soul WAS Kris, why would she look so utterly different if Gold and Silver are easily recognizable? It just doesn't make sense. [[User:Reign|Reign]] 09:19, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
:Given her weird hair similar to the original Kris’s, and her appearance alongside Eusine in that [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/hgss/pokemon/images/img_pokemon_03_04.jpg Burned Tower/Legendary Beasts artwork], I am inclined to agree with TTE that she seems to be mainly a heavy redesign Kris/Crystal, and she will definitely be named the latter when I play her in ''SoulSilver''( now that I feel pretty sure ''HG''/''SS'' will be thirdversionless like ''FR/LG''). But there is something to be said for putting her at her NPC name, unless she is nameable as an NPC, in which case I say merge to Kris for sure. The REAL question we should be asking is what we do with '''''Gold''''' if '''''his''''' NPC name is nothing like “Gold”. --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 13:11, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
::Eusine's design hardly changed from his Crystal art, at all. The only thing that stands out as "major" is the designs on his suit. Everything else is basically the same (unless you consider adding lines to his hair a major addition, or that his one bang flipped sides). [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 13:41, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Sorry, I think I said that badly. Wasn’t saying Eusine looks weird. Should be more clear now. --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 14:41, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
::::To answer your question, if Gold gets a new NPC name, then the obvious solution is to create a new article for him with regards to HG/SS, and leave [[Gold (game)]] solely for any and all details with regards to G/S/C.
::::But, this has nothing to do with improvement to {{tt|Soul's|Or whoever the heck she is!}} article, so back to point, or continue the discussion [[Talk:Gold (game)|somewhere else]]? '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 15:51, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::Yeah, I didn’t mean to start a tangent on it here, just honestly think it’s a more pertinent question than this one. But not one that needs addressing just yet... kinda like this. --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 16:19, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
===Hey look, a section break!===
Strange as it may sound, I agree with Mav. Neither side is really gaining any ground here, so we should all just call her what we want to call her, be it "Soul," "Kris," "Maria," etc, and stop yelling at people who don't agree. And it's not like Bulbapedia defines reality. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 08:39, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
:But both sides should agree that the name "Soul" for the girl is practically denied. All screens confirm "Heart" as a version name for the girl and the page should be moved. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 08:41, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
While I think she's clearly just supposed to be Crys's equivalent, and Crys in the Special manga will thus have her outfit when she reappears, if the article really MUST use a name to refer to this "new" girl, why the hell is Soul used? The ONLY names that have been seen for her are Heart and Miki, while the MALE character has only been seen with the names Soul and Hiroshi. (Miki and Hiroshi only being used in a wireless battle for the second versions of them.) If there's a name used for her, it should be Heart for now. [[User:Capsule Computer|Capsule Computer]] 00:42, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
::Soul is mainly used because the FRLG girl was Leaf. Therefore, it's only logical that she'd be named Soul, following Leaf's pattern of being named after the first word in the second game. I say we keep it as Soul until the game comes out, where if it turns out she's Heart we change it then. [[User:Reign|Reign]] 01:37, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
::::How can this be logical when screens say otherwise? :/ [[User:Erik Destler|~*~ Erik Destler ~*~]] 22:52, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Except to me, it's only logical that she's just the new version of Crys, regardless of what you wanna call her, or what she's called when she's an NPC. (I'm betting the boy won't be named "Gold" when he's an NPC, but he doesn't have a separate page from the G/S/C versions' boy. Odds are very likely that the boy and girl will get 'real' names just like gen 3 and 4 gave them.) Bottom line is that "Soul" has never been used in any way for her; it's nothing but speculation, and thus it should not be presented as such on an encyclopedia. [[User:Capsule Computer|Capsule Computer]] 02:10, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
::::That's why we have the template... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 02:30, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::If you mean the "has no official name", that doesn't change the fact she's referred to as Soul throughout the article, which has lead to everyone annoyingly calling her as such like it's official. The most ridiculous thing is that the Japanese equivalent is there; seriously, what the hell? She should either not be referred to with any name or be called by a name that she's actually been seen having in-game, Heart. Not to mention it should be written in a way that explains where her names come from, rather than misleadingly-worded statements like "Soul is the female player character..." [[User:Capsule Computer|Capsule Computer]] 02:45, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::Perhaps the best way to approach this for now is to give the article a more neutral point of view with respect to the Kris/Soul debate. Also, I've stated several times on BMGf why I think using the default names isn't an indicator of this girl's identity. Default names have changed from game to game, see [[Gold (game)]]. Chances are, she'll have a new default name in HG/SS, but then again, so will Gold. The best evidence I can think of is to look at the anime and manga. If this girl is introduced as a separate character in those media, we can assume she's a new character in the games, if Crystal and Marina just end up getting new looks, then it's safe to say that this girl is Kris.[[User:Jeff|-Jeff]][[User talk:Jeff|(talk)]] 15:34, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::@ Eric Destler: Screens tell us which names the people who took the screens are using, not which names are default. As others have pointed out, we've seen screens with a number of names for the characters in Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum, and none of them were the names we wound up using for the characters. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 23:55, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Guys Kris is Soul. Give me one good reason why Kris isn't Soul.{{unsigned|Pokemon1234567890}}
:::::::::Because she broke Strong Bad's rule about Japanese cartoons. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:51, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
:Why cant you all just wait 40 days until the games come out and we can finally have the answer? Soul is an unofficial name. and think about it. Green/Leaf diddnt appear in Red/Blue/Yellow other then that picture in the guidebook. Even then, she was portrayed by her Manga counterpart. In the remakes she got a new look, and was basically a new character. --[[User:Blake|Blake]] 18:04, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

As far as I can tell, neither side of this argument has any real evidence to support its opinion. At this point, all anyone knows is that there's a female playable character in this game. Some people look at the design and see a radical redesign of Kris; others think it's a new character. The art is the only grounds anyone has for forming an opinion, and this page has certainly proved that that's not a good enough basis for making a decision. Since we've seen that the pre-release screenshots have a history of giving the characters different names from their "real" ones, the text boxes referring to her as "Heart" aren't any help either. In lieu of any new information either way, it would seem most reasonable to me to leave this page as it is until we know more. After all, if this is a redesign of Kris, I don't think anyone can disagree that it has succeeded in making her look like a new character, at least moreso than any previous redesign. We don't have any concrete information, so there's really nothing to do but wait. Bickering over whether Kris and "Soul's" hairstyles match obviously isn't going to get us anywhere. Actually, with the ridiculously fierce debate this trivial issue has inspired, I can only hope the girl ends up being named "Cindy." [[User:Kyunji|Kyunji]] 04:54, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Kyunji is right you know! Let's just STOP! It's really annoying! Let's just WAIT! Gees! Why does NO ONE listens!?

Signed,
--[[User:The Bulb's Master|The Bulb's Master]] 18:09, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
Master of Bulbasaur and the Turtwig♀
:Wait for what exactly? Nintendo to hold a press conference revealing this girl's identity? It's not going to happen, and no matter what evidence we get, this debate will continue to exist. I'm hoping that we can get some resolution when we find out how the Manga and possibly Anime handle this but I'm not holding my breath. The only thing that is known for now is that some people view her as an updated Kris, and some people view her as a new character. Currently, there are still articles, such as [[Kris (game)]] which refer to "Soul" as a new character. These need to be fixed to be more neutral with respect to the debate. Also, to fix this article, how about merging it with Kris's article, but giving the HG/SS girl her own section along with some background on the Kris/Soul debate?[[User:Jeff|-Jeff]][[User talk:Jeff|(talk)]] 17:21, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
::I agree. I think the primary reason most of the fandom is treating this as a new girl named Soul is because of the BP page. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 17:39, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:::I just think once we play the game and learn more of the storyline behind her, then we might have more of an idea of who she is. Merging them into one article will be messy, because once the games come out, there will be many things to add to this article, such as Party template(if you battle her), and the list of names to choose from. and she is obviously a new character. Soul really doesnt look much like her. Different hair styles, different clothes, different eye/hair colors, etc. Soul isnt any more a remake of Kris as [[Pearl (game)|Pearl]] is a remake of [[Wally]]. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 20:18, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
::Once again: Since we've established that there is no definite evidence to support either side of the argument, it would be illogical to reverse the article's current stance on the situation. Merging this article with Kris's would be an entirely subjective decision, and one could use what little we know now to make an equally valid case for separating the two again. Whatever happens, the nickname "Soul" is certainly here to stay; it's far too late to do anything about that. Personally, I'm fine with it -- if this is indeed a new character, there's precedent for the nomenclature in FRLG -- but unfortunately for those who disagree, it is very hard to remove an idea from the minds of the fanbase once it has been planted. On another note, I would certainly support making the other articles more neutral on the subject, since this has somehow turned into a serious issue. [[User:Kyunji|Kyunji]] 23:28, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Hasn't anyone thought that her name might change if you pick a diffrent starter Pokemon? For example: If you pick Totodile, her name is Kris. And if you pick a Chikitora, it's Heart! No one ever thought of that! Signed,--[[User:The Bulb's Master|The Bulb's Master]] 12:51, 5 August 2009 (UTC) Master of Bulbasaur and Turtwig♀
:That is very unlikely. The rival's Pokemon usually has an advantage over yours, and the Female's Pokemon usualy is whatever is left.(Although May/Brendan isnt considered your rival?) It has nothing to do with the names. The names are based on which version game you are playing. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 13:11, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
::Having watched this go nowhere for months, I have no hesitation in saying [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/index.php get to the forums] if you really want to theorize. There will be no solution to this debate, and hence Bulbapedia will stay with this ''temporary'' name until something more official comes out. End of story. Don't reply here. Srsly. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:31, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
:::I agree, I can see it that we might have to ban this if it get out of hand in forums and Bulbapedia.--[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight Blue]] 03:30, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Look, with the games announced here now, Pokémon.com will soon have pictures of the player characters (I give it a week or two) and one of us can write in and say: "I wemembew in Pokemon Cwystal, you could be a girl too, is this the same one?" then we'll have confirmation and we can wait to learn her pseudo-rival name to make it official (in less than a month).--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 03:35, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::I don't mean to get in the heat of the arguement here, but i have a question. Why are we calling her Soul? I'm neutral on the aspect of she is Kris or not (nor could i care), but if she's being called Heart in all the screenshots so far, and Gold being called Soul, why is she being called Soul? It's weird to base it off of one game's name. Wouldn't it be best to call her by the name she's being called in the screenshots? [[User:CherryParanoia|CherryParanoia]] 05:48, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::When FireRed and LeafGreen were made, they introduced a female playable character. It was later discovered that her name was Leaf, the prefix of the second remake name. Because of this, people gave this girl the name Soul. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 05:57, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Not to sound rude but... so what? In the screenshots, the guy is being referred to as Soul (well, Souru-Kun. Same thing) and she's being referred to as Heart. So wouldn't it be more correct to call her Heart? I don't think it matters what happened in Leaf Green, considering it makes no difference to this game at all. If the screenshots call her Heart, why can't we call her Heart? Even if we don't... its really incorrect to call her Soul because thats what the guy (known as Gold in the originals) is being referred to. Very confusing, if you ask me. o.O [[User:CherryParanoia|CherryParanoia]] 20:47, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Don't preach to me. I gave you the answer you were looking for, and I wasn't the one who named this page. It's not like it matters anyway. The Games come out in less then a month and then all will be set straight. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 04:49, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

===Section break 2===
Does any1 remember what was said on the remake speculation page? once doesn't make a pattern. [[User talk: ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']] 14:48, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
:Ok, look, seriously. Did my last "get off the page" rant not work? Listen.
:This is going nowhere. The game comes out in three weeks. It is noted on the page that it is a ''placeholder'' name, until we get the official one. When the game comes out, and we get a name, we'll move it then. And. Only. Then. No discussions.
:If you really feel so passionate about the Soul/Heart/Kris debate, there are more likeminded people [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/forumdisplay.php?f=368 right here]. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:05, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
::Has anyone actually thought that another reason for Soul to be Kris can be based on comparison of the female player character's artwork from RGBY and FRLG? Leaf doesn't look like anything as the Gen I girl yet they're the same characters and this is confirmed by the manga since it's based on the games. Likely, Leaf might not even be her real name, which means it's Blue. For English versions, she might be called Green unless we believe that FRLG fixed the RB fiasco. Also, for those that say the girl's Heart and that Gold is Soul, have you forgotten that those are example names like Diamond and Plato are for Lucas, right? Thus, the screenshots might be from SS. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 18:04, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
:::Leaf's her name. Confirmed by game data. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:34, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Yeah, you're right. I don't even know why I thought otherwise when I wrote that, seriously. But my point remains valid though. I'm still doubtful that Gold is now Hibiki and Soul is Kotone, just because of the anime and Pokémon Sunday. Marina is Kris' anime counterpart but they didn't get the same name. So Kotone is still Soul for me. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 12:34, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::In the games she is Kotone. Deal with it. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 13:36, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::I won't get over it until the games have been hacked through and the data for both Gold and Soul has been obtained, like everyone else. And by your logic, then Dia and Pearl should've been the Japanese names for Lucas and Dawn, when they're obviously not. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 13:43, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

== A vast redesign? ==
She could just be a vast redesign of [[Kris (game)|Kris]]. The hair color change could be to get out of the Crystal theme, and Lorelei's hair went from deep purple to bright red. Both Lucas's and Dawn's outfuts changed vastly, so, my opinion is she's a redesign. [[User:Alec9|''alec'''9''''']] [[Special:Contributions/Alec9|*]] [[User talk:Alec9|-]] [[Gallade (Pokémon)|*]] 18:12, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

== Possible names ==

Okay lemme put these forward:
* ソウル ''Soul'' (based on precedent set by {{ga|Leaf}})
* ミキ ''Miki'' (default name used in Festa battle)
* ハート ''Heart'' (default name used in Festa battle)
* コトネ ''Kotone'' (according to [http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/9950/400760.jpg this])
* クリス ''Kris'' (Crystal, thanks)
* マリナ ''Marina'' (why not?)

Or it could be something completely out of the blue. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:04, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
:I think they called her Kotone in the anime as well. According to that scan anyway. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 04:05, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
::Still doesn't mean anything until the games say it. All the game/anime connection can help us with is her dub name for the episode, due to the {{an|May}}/{{ga|May}} and {{an|Dawn}}/{{ga|Dawn}} connection. And unless they rename Green as Gary and Red as Ash, that's still an up-in-the-air point. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:18, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
:I'm done with the whole Kris/Soul debate as it's completely ridiculous and dependent on one's definition of the word "character". That said, I still think this article belongs merged with [[Kris (game)]] for the sake of consistency with [[Gold (game)]].[[User:Jeff|-Jeff]][[User talk:Jeff|(talk)]] 14:25, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
::Regarding the so-called "precedent" set by Fire Red and Leaf Green, something happening once does not make it a pattern. [[User:Fishman|Fishman]] 18:56, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
:::I know, right? :/ But people don't listen. But judging by the screenshots, she appears as an NPC in game. So we'll have clarification that her name is Heart when the game is out. [[User:CherryParanoia|CherryParanoia]] 19:06, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
::::Did you guys ''REALLY'' have to reopen old wounds? The page was protected because of ranting like this. You want it to happen again? DROP IT. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 19:09, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

== The Final Judgment ==
Pokémon Sunday just confirmed Kotone to be her name in the games. --[[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] 23:26, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
:That's it! That's pretty much solid evidence! Is it not?! [[User:Alec9|''alec'''9''''']] [[Special:Contributions/Alec9|*]] [[User talk:Alec9|-]] [[Gallade (Pokémon)|*]] 23:44, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
Rain: How does this confirm she's not Kris again?
Remember, Gold has a new name too, it's Hibiki. He's not a new character though. It confirms her name, yes. But I say wait for the slight chance of the opposite gender being nameable and the girl being referred as 'Soul/Heart' confirming she's a new character.

Speaking of Hibiki, why isn't Gold (game) moved to Hibiki (game)?
EDIT: Even if she looked exactly like Kris, would anyone honestly expect her have to her pre-set name to be such? I'm doubtful people would be saying it confirms her being a new character if she looked exactly like Kris, but was still named Kotone. I can see why people see the anime thing as a confirmation, but ''this''? Gold and Kris didn't co-exist originally, so they didn't have normal common names. You guys may as well jump the gun and make a new article for the new male playable character, Hibiki. They can look exactly alike to be the different characters too, Cal anyone? {{unsigned|Raine}}

:Can you please go to the forum about this? We are totally sick of the arguments. For now, Gold is Gold and Kotone is Kotone. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 02:25, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

== Why remove all hints of Soul? ==

Shouldn't there be a trivia section mentioning that fans named her Soul and that she was referred to as Soul since she was revealed to this day? We do it for Silver saying how fans named him "Kamon". It's a big part of Kotone's history. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 00:08, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
:Thanks! --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 00:26, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

As for the trivia section, the page refers to her as having a Gold and Silver counterpart, shouldn't that be changed to Crystal as she never did have a G/S counterpart?--[[User:Terrios|Terrios]] 12:52, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

== As for her anime appearance ==

Remember what happened when [[Barry]] debuted. He wasn't part of {{ga|Pearl}}'s page for a reason: they're different characters. Same with {{an|Dawn}}-- she's barely mentioned on {{ga|Dawn}}'s page, and game-Dawn is not at all reflected on anime-Dawn's page.

So when Kotone appears in the anime, she'll be at {{an|Kotone}}. Until we get English names. Then we move both of these to the respective English names like we did Dawn and May.

Everyone got that? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:14, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
:Yes, TTE, most of us do remember what happen with Barry (or Jun for awhile). No1 make a page of Kotone until the Episodes ([[DP143]]/[[DP144]]) air. [[User talk: ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']] 02:59, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

== Her name actually is Soul. ==

I told my friend(who speaks Japanese fluently) about Soul being named Kotone, and he said Kotone is Soul in Japanese. So really, her name is Soul? '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 13:37, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
:Until the games are released, she'll remain Soul. For me, Kotone is to Soul what Diamond and Plato were to Lucas, placeholders used by Nintendo to showcase the games. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 13:49, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
::I am just saying, because I dont want everyone to change every single link and image name yet. Get a real translator(not google translator) and see what it says. Cause my friend said he looked in his Japanese dictionary and thats what it said. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 14:19, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
:::It should stay at Kotone because that is her name in Japanese. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 14:21, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
::::Where have Hibiki and Kotone been revealed to be Gold's and Soul's names? In Pokémon Sunday? Those names sound more like examples than the characters' real names. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 15:08, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::Well Kotone is still better than Soul. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 15:09, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::How is Kotone a better name then Soul? Still, the point is, the Pokemon sunday thing might have called her Kotone because Kotone is Soul in Japanese. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 15:53, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::::No, Kotone DOES NOT mean "Soul" in Japanese. Even if it did, we DO NOT translate names like that. It's like saying that Dawn is called "Light" in Japanese. But Kotone does not mean soul, anyway. It means "sound of a koto (harp)". --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 17:36, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

== Can someone change something for me plz ==

Can they change 6 September 2009's to September 6, 2009's that sounds a lot better. Plus I can't change it.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 15:17, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
:That's odd...you should be able to...it's not protected anymore...--'''Dark''' [[Mask of Ice|'''ICE''']] (User:Cold)([[user:Cold|page]], [[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 15:23, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
::Only established editors can edit it. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 15:56, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

== Page name ==

Why does it need to be "Kotone (game)", with "Kotone" being a redirect? If she's the only Kotone, her page should just be "Kotone", and, if there are others, "Kotone" needs to be a disambiguation page rather than a redirect. [[User:Flicky|Fli]][[User talk:Flicky|cky]][[User:Flicky/Latin|1991]] 07:52, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
:There is a change she will be named that in the anime. --[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 07:53, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
::Same as with {{ga|Pearl}} and {{ga|May}} and {{ga|Dawn}}. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:09, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

== Pronunciation? ==

I know this is a bit daft, but how do you pronounce Kotone's name? Is it KO-toan, ko-TOAN-ee or ko-TOAN-ay? [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 20:24, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
:I have no idea myself, but I've been pronouncing it "Koh-toe-nee". [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 00:02, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
::It's "Koh-toh-neh". →''[[User:Tina|'''T'''inā]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|★]] 00:06, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
:::According to Marriland and his videos, Its "Koh-toh-nay"[[User talk: ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']] 21:40, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
I have been saying it as Ko-tone(tone as in monotone)[[User:Evandeck|Evandeck]] 15:33, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
:Check your Japanese, then. Ko-to-ne. コトネ. コ (ko) ト (to) ネ (ne). Hiragana and katakana are syllabic script, kanji is logographic. Unlike rōmaji, of course, which we use (Roman characters), which are... letters. The only single-letter syllables in Japanese are ア/あ(a), イ/い (i), ウ/う (u), エ/え (e), オ/お (o), and ン/ん (n); all others are transliterated as more than one letter (at most three). Anything that's not hiragana, katakana, or rōmaji is kanji... and for that... well, that requires memorization, considering each can have ''several'' pronunciations and thus several romanizations. Now let's let 琴音 continue her journey in 城都 (way to go copy/paste from the {{wp|list of jōyō kanji}}). '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 18:42, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

== Kotone in japan. ==

This may be a stupid question but, don't you think Kotone is just her japenese name? Lunick v sonela 07:20, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
:Uhh... yeah. It's only in the infobox because it looks better than a blank. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 07:23, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
::No I mean won't they call her something else when they get to english speaking contries. Lunick v sonela 08:17, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
:::Most likely, yes, she will have an English name just like every other character. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 08:19, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

I maybe new here, but I've done a lot of research before. We know that Kotone means harp; lute, sound, right?
So, here's a quick detour of past names. 1st: When Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire were released in Japan, May's japanese name reveiled as Haruka which means spring/flowers, of course, in Pokemon Gold/Silver/Crystal, there was a twin trainer at the bug gym that had names of Amy and MAY, but by the time R/S/E were in USA, another clue was reveiled within the game that, when D/P came out in Japan, Dawn's name in japanese means light, so in the 3rd generation R/S/E, there was a Swimmer (Female) by Regice's chamber named DAWN, now that D/P/Plat. came out, yet another well played clue hides in the game. With HGSS coming out in Japan, we hear this new trainer named Kotone, which means, like I said, harp, lute; sound. Now here's where my prediction comes in. One of you meantioned a japanese friend saying Kotone means Soul, but you're all close! What is the only thing that has a soul? The answer is Angels! What names have the word Angel in it? Two of them: Angelica, which has too many letters in it, and Angela, which has all 7 spaces filled, but where does this have to do with the 2nd/3rd generation? Answer: In the Eterna City Gym, a Aroma Lady had the name ANGELA!
Conclusion: By looking in the games of the past, there will be clues. It happened the same in R/S when they talked about Kanto and they made FR/LG, and in D/P/Plat, they meantioned a few things about Johto, which made HGSS.- ''unsigned comment from {{u|Poke.trainer.1}} ([[User talk:Poke.trainer.1|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Poke.trainer.1|contribs]]) ''
:Erm... let's wait 'til it comes out for the English name.--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[User talk:RexRacer|Racer''']] 22:19, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
::I'll wait too. [[User:Lunick v sonela|Lunick v sonela]] 13:49, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
:::Those Trainer Names from previous generations are a coincidence. I wouldn't believe them. It's a very far-fetched and naive theory. We must wait. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 13:56, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
::::It's like saying that her name will be something like Sonora or Melody simply because they follow the HGSS sound-based naming conventions. Also "Angela" has six letters in it, not seven. ...Yeah that's not the point of this discussion, but hey. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 14:12, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
:::::Something has to be put in there, so until the english name comes out keep it there.--[[user:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] We are the Void 23:44, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

== Yes, I'm new, but ==

http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:HGSS_Kotone_Pokéthlon_Jersey.png - This ain't fan art, and I uploaded it, but I can't seem to edit the page and add it. Meh well. Same case with http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:HGSS_Hibiki_Pokéthlon_Jersey.png . -- [[User:Sotomura|Sotomura]] 05:39, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
:Gold/Hibiki's page is locked, so only admins can edit it. As for Kotone's, it's set so only "established users" can edit it, whatever that means. :P I can add the Kotone sprite if you'd like... where in the game is it from, exactly? [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 05:42, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
::I'd tell you to read the description, but I have to consider that I'm not the only lazy one. Anyway, it's their Pokéthlon sprites from HeartGold/SoulSilver. -- [[User:Sotomura|Sotomura]] 05:50, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

== Anime counterpart only? ==

"Due to the recent release of the games, no more counterparts for Kotone in other media have currently been released."

I do believe I saw a scan of her in some manga. Anyone want to look into that? --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 04:44, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
:From what I've read, the artwork your thinking of is of [[Crystal (Special)|Crystal]] [[User:ShinyPikachu/Petition|Never Give Up]] [[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']] 20:59, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
::No...there was a scan of her in some manga...I think that's where we first saw her name. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 21:21, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
:::Yeah, what Sketch said. This is the pic
:::http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/9950/400760.jpg
:::--[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 22:18, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
:::That scan is from a one-shot manga called ''Pocket Monsters HeartGold SoulSilver - Go! Go! Pokethlon'' by Ihara Shigekatsu and Hibiki also showed up in that manga, except his name was Takashi. It was released before the actual game, so I can see why Ihara named accidently named him that instead. Of course, it could be like Mistumi's and Hareta's situations.--[[User:Raine|Raine]] 19:33, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

== Do we know for sure that Hibiki/Kotone didn't take the third starter? ==
In the trivia section, it says Kotone is the only pseudo rival not to have a starter. (I'm wondering why it's not on Hibiki's page.) However, early in the game, they are seen with a different Pokemon, Zubat, so Marill isn't their only Pokemon not to mention later in the game the player sees thast the third starter is gone and asks him/herself said question. They could of taken the third starter, Marill might just be their first Pokemon in their party and we know that they have more than one Pokemon, so it's possible.
:Unless they are actually seen WITH the starter, it is speculation and it will not go in the article. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 16:17, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
::There's still a Poké Ball in Elm's lab, so it's pretty likely that Kotone/Hibiki doesn't have one of the actual Johto starters. →''[[User:Tina|'''T'''inā]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|★]] 16:26, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
:::No, no Tina...the Poké Ball disappears...but we don't know where to. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 16:54, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
::::Ooooh... heh. Japanese is a little lackluster. <_<; Assumed that it said something about a Poké Ball still being in there. HUR DISREGARD THAT. →''[[User:Tina|'''T'''inā]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|★]] 16:56, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

==Protection Next Week?==

Well, [[DP143]] is airing stateside next week, in which [[Kotone (anime)|Kotone]] will appear in the show. I was thinking that maybe this article should be protected next week since we won't know 100% if the name given to the anime version will be the same as the games. I mean sure there's really no reason they wouldn't be the same, but just in case maybe? --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 13:16, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
:I agree that it's pretty much guaranteed that the anime name used for her will be the same as the game one, but we're not moving the game one ''or'' {{ga|Gold}} until March 15. Because we'll be sure then. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:34, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

==English name==
It has been stated on Serebii.net that her english name is Lyra, but you guys are going to wait until its offically revealed, right? [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 23:22, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
:Indeed. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:42, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
::Where did Serebii ever say that was her name? --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 23:47, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
:::It's on their front page. Pokemon.com says it too. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 23:49, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
::::It didn't say it when this was posted. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 00:18, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::Lol, yeah it did, I'm not psychic. [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 00:20, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::Not on my computer. I refreshed like 5 times and nothing new was posted. Anyway, why is the official site distrusted so much. It's the official site and they have never been wrong about an English name. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 00:22, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
:I think sometimes it gives out not false, but information with errors in it. I couldn't give you any example though. Well, I could if I really wanted to look, but sometimes in the naming of the episodes. [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 00:34, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
::Just wait for the episode to air... it's just easier. And although it's been the trend for the past forever, her anime name is not neccesarily her game name anyways. --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 00:36, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
:::You're wrong about not making a mistake about an English name. [[Roman]] and [[Kylie]] had different names in their synopsis. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 00:39, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
::::Wow, two in a line of hundreds. Doesn't make the '''official''' site untrustworthy. Not to mention I changed Marcus's guide to his dub name when the Movie 12 site launched and no admin changed it back. I don't see why this has to be different. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 04:39, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::I personally think the Pokémon website is credible enough, however, the rule is we have to wait until the episode airs, especially because she's such a high-profile character. The page won't explode if it doesn't move for five days :P --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 06:33, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::Yeah, I realize that. It's just stupid that the admins don't trust the official site, except for rare circumstances. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 07:39, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
::It's not false. It's the correct name. Don't be ignorant. If Pokemon.com says it then that's an official source saying it. You can't trust an official source one time and then not another. Life doesn't work like that --[[User:Serebii|Serebii]] 08:18, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
:::I agree with Serebii. Her anime name IS Lyra, and Kotone (anime) SHOULD be renamed Lyra (anime). Or possibly just "Lyra", as we don't know if that'll be her name in the games. If it turns out to be wrong, it can be changed again, right? [[User:FireMeowth|FireMeowth]] 11:39, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
::::OMG... It's been like this for years now. You know the drill. Why are you all whining about this? And Serebii, we're not being ignorant. We just don't want to change names everywhere in case it turns out wrong. Pokemon.com has been wrong before. Just wait until Saturday. It's not a big deal. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 16:42, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::Because its a stupid rule. Official site is an official source. They've been wrong a couple times, doesn't mean it's untrustworthy. Not to mention they've never given wrong names to characters. All of those have been done by CN. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 21:47, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::Lol, omg u guys. Just wait 4 days, it's not the end of the world. Don't forget, Pokemon.com got [[Ada]]'s name wrong, calling her Audrey. And also, [[Kylie]], [[Roman]], and [[Thatcher]] as well. So just calm down, and wait. Bulbapedia has rules that we have to follow. No exceptions. [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 22:07, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::If everyone's going to make such a big stink of it, how about something like this as a compromise? In the trivia section:
::::::::On February 1, 2010, Pokémon.com announced the name of her anime counterpart to be Lyra, but as of {{#time: F j, Y}} is the only official source to have done so.
:::::::[[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 22:08, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
:::That would be alright, but you'd have to do it to Hibiki/Ethan/Gold, and the rocket admins as well for people to stop complaining? [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 22:19, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
::::They're a different story, because so far as I know they haven't been announced by any official source yet, have they? [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 22:33, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::Yes they have, they announced their names on serebii, and the same debate is going on on Gold's page as well. I dunno about Team Rocket's, i don't have them on my watchlist. [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 22:35, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::Serebii's not an official source. And although he must have gotten the names from somewhere, that somewhere might not be an official source either. [[User:Reign|Reign]] 22:48, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Lol, which brings us right back to the top of the discussion again. I think it is a good idea to put it on the trivia, do what you want to do, Umeko, kay? [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 22:54, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::::It should be in the trivia section of the anime character, though. [[User:FireMeowth|FireMeowth]] 22:59, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::I couldn't edit it in even if I wanted. Talk to an admin about it, not me. \o/ [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 23:04, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::No trivia section. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:15, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
Like I said, Bulbapedia may have it's rules, but not trusting the official source for one confirmed mistake doesn't make them untrustworthy. They could have easily changed their minds about character names just like they did with the episode titles [[EP070]] and [[DP091]]. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 04:56, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
:They could change their minds again. Nothing's stopping them. They could make her Jeena and Gold Rick by March 14, though likely the games are 99.9% ready to go at this point in time. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:33, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

== Korean Name ==

Because of page block I can't put it. It's 금선 ''Geumseon''. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 10:15, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
:Done. --[[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''☆''']][[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチュウ!''']] 10:22, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

== The name's Lyra ==

Yup. It is. --[[User:Poke nav|Po]][[User talk:Poke nav|ké]][[Special:Contributions/Poke nav|nav]]. [[User:Poke nav/Glitch|Is]] [[User:Poke nav/User Boxes|a]] [[User:Poke nav/Histories|glitch]] [[User:Poke nav/Manga|master!]] 01:28, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Running Shoes

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Poke nav: /* In other languages */

[[File:Bag Running Shoes Sprite.png|frame]]
'''Running Shoes''' (Japanese: '''ランニングシューズ''') are a piece of equipment developed by the [[Devon Corporation]]. They were introduced in {{game|Ruby and Sapphire|s}} and used in all standard [[Generation III]] and [[Generation IV]] games.

They are typically received shortly after the beginning of the game, and allow the {{player}} [[Transportation in Pokémon|to run]] instead of walk, by holding the B button and pressing the D-pad in any direction. In {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}, this method is overhauled and replaced with a panel on the lower screen that, when touched with the stylus, automatically put on the Running Shoes, allowing the player to run without having to hold the B button. However, there are a few places that cannot be run through, such as very tall, thick grass or deep snow. Most caves and routes, though, as well as some buildings, will allow for running inside of them. In [[Generation IV]], all buildings allow running, but deep snow is added in which one can sometimes run but never bike.

The speed at which players can run is about twice as that of walking, yet slower than any of the [[bicycle]]s.

In {{3v2|Ruby|Sapphire|Emerald}}, and {{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}, the Running Shoes are given by the player's [[mom|mother]] before they leave on the journey. In {{2v2|FireRed|LeafGreen}}, their [[mom]] sends them to the player via one of [[Professor Oak]]'s aides, who is met after entering Route 3. Finally, in {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}, they are given by the old man who gives the player a tour of Cherrygrove City.

In [[Generation IV]], the player can use running shoes inside of all structures instead of being limited to certain buildings in [[Generation III|past games]].

==In the manga==
In [[Pokémon Adventures]], {{adv|Ruby}} has a pair of Running Shoes, given to him as a birthday present by his father, [[Norman]]. They, like the in-game ones, allow Ruby to run far faster than normal.

==In other languages==
* German: '''Turbotreter'''
* Spanish: '''Deportivas'''

[[Category:Equipment]]

[[de:Turbotreter]]
[[ja:ランニングシューズ]]

Ethan (game)

2009-12-06T14:33:59Z

Poke nav: /* Artwork */

{{CharacterInfobox|
name=Gold |
jname=ゴールド |
tmname=Gold |
slogan=no |
image=[[File:HeartGold SoulSilver Gold.png]] |
caption=Art from HeartGold and SoulSilver |
gender=Male |
hometown=[[New Bark Town]] |
region=[[Johto]] |
relatives=[[Mom]] (as player) [[Daycare Couple]] (as NPC)|
trainer=yes |
trainerclass=[[Pokémon Trainer]], [[Player character]] |
game=yes |
generation={{gen|II}}, {{gen|IV}} |
games=[[Pokémon Gold and Silver Versions|Gold, Silver]], {{v2|Crystal}}, [[Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions|HeartGold, SoulSilver]] |
leader=no |
anime=counterpart |
animecounterpart={{jo|Jimmy}}|
}}
'''Gold''' (Japanese: '''ゴールド''' ''Gold'') is the main {{player|playable character}} in {{game|Gold and Silver|s}} and is the male choice in {{game|Crystal}} and {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}. In Crystal, his female counterpart is {{ga|Kris}}, while in HeartGold and SoulSilver his female counterpart is {{ga|Kotone}}.

He is a caring young boy who lives with his mother in [[New Bark Town]]. His name, if he is not chosen as the player in HeartGold and SoulSilver, is '''Hibiki''' ('''ヒビキ''' ''Hibiki'').

==Storyline in the games==
===When selected as the player character===
Gold's journey as a {{pkmn|Trainer}} begins when [[Professor Elm]] asks him to run an errand for [[Mr. Pokémon]], who lives north of [[Cherrygrove City]]. Because he may encounter dangerous wild [[Pokémon]] along the way, Elm gives him a choice between three Pokémon to protect him: {{p|Cyndaquil}}, {{p|Totodile}} or {{p|Chikorita}}.

Gold meets another boy his age watching Elm's Lab from outside. When he tries to talk to him, the boy abruptly shoves him away. The boy, {{ga|Silver}}, will become Gold's rival, analagous to {{ga|Blue}} in [[Generation I]].

Gold continues onward and finally meets Mr. Pokémon and completes his errand. While there he meets [[Professor Oak]] who, upon realizing Gold's bond with his new Pokémon, gives him a [[Pokédex]]. On his way back home, Gold again meets Silver, who has stolen one of Elm's remaining Pokémon. After defeating the boy in battle, he learns his name and relays it to the police in New Bark Town. Professor Elm allows Gold to keep the Pokémon he chose earlier, and encourages him to compete in the [[Johto League]].

From there Gold begins on a Pokémon journey in the [[Johto]] [[region]], facing off against its eight [[Gym Leader]]s, defeating and disbanding the newly reformed [[Team Rocket]], and becoming [[Champion|League Champion]] by defeating the [[Elite Four]] and its previous Champion, [[Lance]] at the [[Indigo Plateau]]. Along the way he also teaches Silver to respect Pokémon as living creatures and not just as tools for battle.

After being declared the League Champion, Gold then takes a short trip on a ship, the [[S.S. Aqua]], from [[Olivine City]] to [[Vermilion City]] in [[Kanto]]. Journeying across that region, he battles against its own set of eight Gym Leaders. Upon getting permission from [[Professor Oak]] in [[Pallet Town]], Gold heads for [[Mt. Silver]] via {{rt|28}}. His journey comes to a close when he faces the legendary trainer {{ga|Red}} deep in Mt. Silver's cave, who had been training there since shortly after he became League Champion [[Generation I|three years prior]].

===When not selected as the player character===
In {{v2|Crystal}}, {{2v|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}, there is a choice between two player characters. If {{ga|Kris}}, Gold's female counterpart in Crystal only is selected as the player, then Gold will not appear in the game at all (although his sprite will be used in a link battle with another game from Generation II). In the fourth generation games, Gold will appear in a number of cameo roles as a [[non-player character]] when the player opts to use {{ga|Kotone}}. In this capacity he will teach the player how to catch Pokémon; it is later revealed that his grandparents are the [[Day Care couple]] who live on [[Route 34]]. Naturally, when the roles are reversed and Gold is the player character, this role is given to Kotone.

==Pokémon==
Gold uses this party to show the {{player}} how to catch Pokémon when {{ga|Kotone}} is selected as the player character in {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}.

{{Party|color={{heartgold color}}|bordercolor={{heartgold color dark}}
|headcolor={{heartgold color light}}
|sprite=HGSS Gold Back.png‎
|class={{color2|000|Pokémon Trainer}}
|name=Hibiki
|prize=None
|game=[[Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions|{{color|000000|HeartGold and SoulSilver}}]]
|location=[[Route 29|{{color|000000|Route 29}}]]
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon|gen=4|game=HeartGold and SoulSilver|ndex=183|pokemon=Marill|level=5|type1=Water|ability=Unknown
|move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Defense Curl|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status}}}}

==Artwork==
Artwork from the {{game|Gold and Silver|s}} manual and player's guide:
<gallery perrow=3>
File:Gold1.png|Gold holds his backpack.
File:Crystal Gold.png|Artwork from {{game|Crystal}}.
File:Hiro2.png|Gold running.
File:Gold3.png|Gold checks his [[PokéGear]].
File:Gold4.png|Gold approaches a [[Time Capsule]].
</gallery>

Sprites:
{| align=left border="1" style="border: 1px solid #000; border-collapse: collapse;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2" width=700px
|- align=center
| [[File:GS Gold.png]]
| [[File:Gold_crystal.png]]
| [[File:GS Gold Back.png]]
| [[File:Gold_HGSS.png]]
| [[File:HibikiChallenge.png]]
| [[File:HGSS_Gold_Back.png]]
| [[File:HGSS Hibiki Pokéthlon Jersey.png]]
|- align=center style="font-size: 80%;"
| Gold's sprite from {{2v2|Gold|Silver}}
| Gold's sprite from {{v2|Crystal}}
| Gold's backsprite from Generation II
| Gold's sprite from {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}
| Gold's Challenge sprite from {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}
| Gold's backsprite from {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}
| Gold's Pokéthlon sprite from {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}
|}{{-}}

== Optional names for Gold ==
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #88a; border-collapse: collapse;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #ccf;"
! Language !! Gold !! Silver !! Crystal !! HeartGold/SoulSilver
|-
|| English
||
* Gold
* Hiro
* Taylor
* Karl
||
* Silver
* Kamon
* Oscar
* Max
||
* Chris
* Mat
* Allan
* Jon
||
|-
|| Japanese
||
* ゴールド ''Gold''
* ヒロキ ''Hiroki''
* テツオ ''Tetsuo''
* タカシ ''Takashi''
||
* シルバー ''Silver''
* カモン ''Kamon''
* トオル ''Tōru''
* マサオ ''Masao''
||
* クリス ''Chris''
* ヨウスケ ''Yōsuke''
* タケヒロ ''Takehiro''
* タカオ ''Takao''
||
* ハート ''Heart''
* ソウル ''Soul''
* サトシ ''Satoshi''
* ケン ''Ken''
* カケル ''Kakeru''
* ジャック ''Jack''
* ジャン ''Jean''
* ジョン ''John''
* カモン ''Kamon''
* タカシ ''Takashi''
* テツオ ''Tetsuo''
* トオル ''Tooru''
* ヒロキ ''Hiroki''
* マサオ ''Masao''
* タカオ ''Takao''
* タケヒロ ''Takehiro''
* トウゴ ''Tōgo''
* ヒトシ ''Hitoshi''
* ヨシナオ ''Yoshinao''
|-
|| French
||
* Gold
* Julien
* Jean
* Jacques
||
* Silver
* Daniel
* Pierre
* Paul
||
* Chris
* Benji
* Nicolas
* Jean
||
|-
|| German
||
* Gold
* Daniel
* Fritz
* Karl
||
* Silber
* Thomas
* Oscar
* Hans
||
* Chris
* Arnold
* Gert
* Jon
||
|-
|| Italian
||
* Oro
* Paolo
* Diego
* Carlo
||
* Argento
* Luca
* Paolo
* Max
||
* Chris
* Sergio
* Giacomo
* Manuele
|-
|| Spanish
||
* Oro
* Hiro
* Tomás
* Carlos
||
* Plata
* Kamon
* Óscar
* Max
||
* Cris
* Antonio
* Álex
* Emilio
||
|-
|| Korean
||
* 골드 ''Gold''
* 수호 ''Suho''
* 인철 ''Incheol''
* 강산 ''Gangsan''
||
* 실버 ''Silver''
* 청운 ''Cheong'un''
* 지겸 ''Jigyeom''
* 찬호 ''Chanho
||
*UNAVAILABLE
||
|}

==Counterparts==
{{jo|Jimmy}} from the special episode ''[[The Legend of Thunder]]'', seems to be based off of Gold in the most basic sense, much more than {{Ash}} was based off of his counterpart, {{ga|Red}}. However, like Ash and Red aren't interchangeable, neither are Jimmy and Gold, nor {{jo|Marina}} and her game counterpart, {{ga|Kris}}.

Other counterparts of Gold include {{adv|Gold}} from [[Pokémon Adventures]] manga, {{OBP|Gold|Golden Boys}} from [[Pokémon Gold & Silver: The Golden Boys|Golden Boys]] manga and [[Kinnosuke]] from [[Pokémon Pocket Monsters]] manga.

==Trivia==
* Gold is the only male player character who does not wear long pants, instead opting for shorts.
* Gold is the only male player character to have two different female counterparts.
* Gold is the main protagonist in [[Pokémon Puzzle Challenge]]'s Challenge Mode.
* The majority of his Japanese default names from {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}} are shared with {{ga|Lucas}} and {{ga|Red}}. The same is true of their {{ga|Kotone|resepective}} {{ga|Leaf|female}} {{ga|Dawn|counterparts}}.
* Gold and {{ga|Kotone}} are the only pseudo-rivals, (along with the only [[rival]] characters in any game apart from Wally), to not appear to have a starter Pokémon from the professor in that region.
* Gold's sprite in HeartGold and SoulSilver is positioned the same as Lucas's in Platinum.

{{Player characters}}
{{Johto NPCs}}
{{Project CharacterDex notice}}
[[Category:Game characters]]
[[Category:Playable characters]]
[[Category:Gold, Silver and Crystal characters]]
[[Category:HeartGold and SoulSilver characters]]
[[Category:Male characters]]

[[fr:Gold (jeux vidéo)]]

Lyra (game)

2009-12-06T14:33:18Z

Poke nav: /* Optional names for Kotone */

{{CharacterInfobox|
name=Kotone |
jname=コトネ |
tmname=Kotone |
slogan=no |
image=[[Image:HGSSSoul.png]] |
caption=Art from HeartGold and SoulSilver |
gender=Female |
hometown=[[New Bark Town]] |
region=[[Johto]] |
relatives=Mom (as player) Grandparents (as NPC)|
trainer=yes |
trainerclass=[[Pokémon Trainer]], [[Player character]] |
game=yes |
generation={{gen|IV}} |
games=[[Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions|HeartGold, SoulSilver]] |
leader=no |
anime=no |
anime=counterpart |
animecounterpart={{an|Kotone}}
}}
'''Kotone''' (Japanese: '''コトネ''' ''Kotone'') is the female [[player character]] in {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}. In these remakes of Pokémon {{2v|Gold|Silver}}, she is the counterpart to {{ga|Gold}}, taking over the role from {{ga|Kris}} in the original games. Her hometown is [[New Bark Town]]; she lives there with [[Mom|her mother]].

==Storyline in the games==
===When selected as the player character===
Kotone's journey as a {{pkmn|Trainer}} begins when [[Professor Elm]] asks her to run an errand for [[Mr. Pokémon]], who lives north of [[Cherrygrove City]]. Because she may encounter dangerous wild [[Pokémon]] along the way, Elm gives her a choice between three Pokémon for protection: {{p|Cyndaquil}}, {{p|Totodile}} or {{p|Chikorita}}.

Kotone meets a strange boy the same age as her watching Elm's Lab from outside. When she tries to talk to him, the boy abruptly shoves her away. The boy, {{ga|Silver}}, will become Kotone's rival, analogous to {{ga|Blue}} in [[Generation I]].

Kotone continues onward and finally meets Mr. Pokémon and completes the errand. While there she meets [[Professor Oak]] who, upon realizing Kotone's bond with her new Pokémon, gives her a [[Pokédex]]. On her way back home, Kotone again meets Silver, who has stolen one of Elm's remaining Pokémon. After defeating the boy in battle, she learns his name and relays it to the police in New Bark Town. Professor Elm allows Kotone to keep the Pokémon she chose earlier, and encourages her to compete in the [[Johto League]].

From there Kotone begins on a Pokémon journey in the [[Johto]] [[region]], facing off against its eight [[Gym Leader]]s, defeating and disbanding the newly reformed [[Team Rocket]], and becoming [[Champion|League Champion]] by defeating the [[Elite Four]] and its previous Champion, [[Lance]] at the [[Indigo Plateau]]. Along the way she also teaches Silver to respect Pokémon as living creatures and not just as tools for battle.

After being declared the League Champion, Kotone then takes a short trip on a ship, the [[S.S. Aqua]], from [[Olivine City]] to [[Vermilion City]] in [[Kanto]]. Journeying across that region, she battles against its own set of eight Gym Leaders. Upon getting permission from [[Professor Oak]] in [[Pallet Town]], Kotone heads for [[Mt. Silver]] via {{rt|28}}. Her journey comes to a close when she faces the legendary trainer {{ga|Red}} deep in Mt. Silver's cave, who had been training there since shortly after he became League Champion [[Generation I|three years prior]].

===When not selected as the player character===
[[File:Goldandsoul.png|thumb|left|200px|Kotone speaking with {{ga|Gold}}]]
If {{ga|Gold}} is selected to be the player character, Kotone meets him in [[New Bark Town]] at the start of the game. In this particular scene, she is seen with a {{p|Marill}}. She will always have Marill even if another [[starter Pokémon]] is selected. In addition, she doesn't appear to take the remaining starter Pokémon. Her role in the storyline of HeartGold and SoulSilver is similar to that of {{ga|Lucas}}/{{ga|Dawn}} in {{game2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}} if they are not chosen as the player character, while Gold takes this place if she is selected as the player.

While playing as Gold, her grandparents run the [[Pokémon Day Care]] on [[Route 34]]. Naturally, this role is given to Gold if she is the player character.

{{-}}

==Pokémon==
Kotone uses this party to show the {{player}} how to catch Pokémon when {{ga|Gold}} is selected as the player character in {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}.
{{Party|color={{soulsilver color}}|bordercolor={{soulsilver color dark}}
|headcolor={{soulsilver color light}}
|sprite=HGSS_Kotone_Back.png
|class={{color2|000|Pokémon Trainer}}
|name=Kotone
|prize=None
|game=[[Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions|{{color|000000|HeartGold and SoulSilver}}]]
|location=[[Route 29|{{color|000000|Route 29}}]]
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon|gen=4|game=HeartGold and SoulSilver|ndex=183|pokemon=Marill|level=5|type1=Water|ability=Unknown
|move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Defense Curl|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status}}}}

==Optional names for Kotone==
{| align=right border="1" style="border: 1px solid #000; border-collapse: collapse;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- align=center
| [[Image:KotoneHGSS.png]]
| [[Image:HGSS Kotone Pokéthlon Jersey.png]]
|- align=center style="font-size: 80%;"
| Kotone's sprite from {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}
| Kotone's Pokéthlon sprite from {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}
|- align=center
| [[Image:HGSS_Kotone_Back.png]]
| [[Image:KotoneChallenge.png]]
|- align=center style="font-size: 80%;"
| Kotone's backsprite from {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}
| Kotone's Challenge sprite from {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}
|}
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #88a; border-collapse: collapse;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #ccf;"
! Language
! HeartGold/SoulSilver

|-
| Japanese
|
*ハート ''Heart''
*ソウル ''Soul''
*キヨミ ''Kiyomi''
*サトコ ''Satoko''
*チホ ''Chiho''
*イオリ ''Iori''
*マキコ ''Makiko''
*ミキコ ''Mikiko''
*ウララ ''Urara''
*ジュンコ ''Junko''
*フウカ ''Fūka''
*リエ ''Rie''
*セツコ ''Setsuko''
*ニッキ ''Nikki''
*マミナ ''Mamina''
*ノリコ ''Noriko''
*ユミカ ''Yumika''
*モモコ ''Momoko''
*ミスズ ''Misuzu''

|}

==Counterparts==
[[File:KotoneAn.png|thumb|200px|right|Kotone's anime counterpart]]
Shortly after the release of {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}, an {{an|Kotone|anime counterpart}} of Kotone appeared in [[DP143]]. Much like {{ga|May}} and {{ga|Dawn}}'s counterparts, she has the same name as the game character, unlike {{ga|Red}}, {{ga|Blue}}, and {{ga|Gold}}'s counterparts. As of yet, no other counterparts have been revealed.

==Trivia==
*Much like {{ga|Silver}} received the fan name "Kamon" from the list of {{ga|Gold}}'s names in {{game|Silver}} for discerning purposes, Kotone was known by much of the fandom as "Soul", following the precedent of {{ga|Red}}'s {{ga|Leaf|female counterpart}} introduced in {{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}}. Interestingly, {{ga|Gold}} was the only one who appeared in-game in demos with the name Soul: Kotone's name was in fact "Heart" (though likewise, ''Leaf'' was a default name for Red in LeafGreen, and ''Fire'' and ''Red'' default names for Leaf in FireRed).
**As predicted, much like {{ga|Leaf}}, "Soul" is one of the optional names for Kotone in Pokémon SoulSilver Version.
*Previously to the announcement of Kotone's name on September 6th, 2009's episode of [[Pokémon Sunday]], she was seen by many fans as an updated form of {{ga|Kris}}, rather than a new character.
*Kotone's name when translated means "sound of the harp."
*Kotone and {{ga|Gold}} are the only pseudo-rivals, (along with the only [[rival]] characters in any game apart from Wally), to not appear to have a starter Pokémon from the professor in that region.
*Kotone shares many of her Japanese default names with {{ga|Leaf}} and {{ga|Dawn}}. She also shares all of {{ga|Kris}}'s default Japanese names.
{{-}}
{{Player characters}} 
{{Johto NPCs}} 
{{Project CharacterDex notice}}
[[Category:HeartGold and SoulSilver characters]]
[[Category:Female characters]]

[[ja:コトネ (ゲーム)]]

Lucas (game)

2009-12-06T14:30:32Z

Poke nav: /* Third battle (as partner) */

{{CharacterInfobox|
name=Lucas |
jname=コウキ |
tmname=Kōki |
image=[[File:Platinum_Lucas.png|220px]] |
caption=Art from Platinum |
gender=Male |
hometown=[[Twinleaf Town]] (as player), [[Sandgem Town]] (as partner) |
region=[[Sinnoh]] |
relatives=[[Johanna]], unnamed father (as player), unnamed sister, grandfather, father (as partner) |
trainer=yes |
trainerclass={{pkmn|Trainer}} |
numpkmncaught=Varies with canon |
game=yes |
generation={{Gen|IV}} |
games={{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}} |
leader=no |
elite=no |
team=no |
brain=no |
anime=no |
}}

'''Lucas''' (Japanese: '''コウキ''' ''Kōki'') is the male player character of {{game|Diamond and Pearl|s}}. The female counterpart is {{ga|Dawn}}. If the player chooses Dawn, he will become {{Prof|Rowan}}'s assistant for the game. Lucas lives in [[Sandgem Town]] with his little sister, grandfather, and father - who works as an assistant of Professor Rowan. He is already the Professor's assistant at the beginning of the game. He also demonstrates to the player how to capture Pokémon by capturing a wild {{p|Bidoof}}.

The character {{adv|Diamond}} from the [[Pokémon Adventures]] manga is based off of the design of Lucas.

His English name is derived from "lux", the Latin root word for light, while his Japanese name is a reference to the Japanese word for "brightness" (光輝 ''kōki''), much like {{ga|Dawn|Hikari}} means light (光). It is also similar to 金剛石 '''''k'''ong'''ō'''se'''ki''''', a Japanese word for {{game3|Diamond and Pearl|diamond|s}}.

==Pokémon==
{| align=right border="1" style="border: 1px solid #000; border-collapse: collapse;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- align=center
| [[Image:Koki.png]]
| [[Image:lucasplatinum.png]]
| [[Image:LucasChallenge.png]]
|- align=center style="font-size: 80%;"
| Lucas's sprite from {{2v2|Diamond|Pearl}}
| Lucas's sprite from {{v2|Platinum}}
| Lucas's Challenge sprite from {{v2|Platinum}}
|}

This listing is for Lucas's Pokémon in the video games in which he has appeared.
===First battle (capture tutorial)===
If the {{player}} chose {{p|Turtwig}}:
{{Party
|color={{diamond color}}
|headcolor={{pearl color}}
|bordercolor={{platinum color}}
|sprite=Pt_Lucas_Back.png
|prize=None
|class=[[Pokémon Trainer|PKMN Trainer]]
|name=Lucas
|game={{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}
|location=[[Route 202]]
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=393
|pokemon=Piplup
|gender=male/female
|level=5
|type1=Water
|ability=Torrent
|move1=Pound
|move1type=Normal
|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Growl
|move2type=Normal
|move2cat=Status}}
}}

If the {{player}} chose {{p|Chimchar}}:
{{Party
|color={{diamond color}}
|headcolor={{pearl color}}
|bordercolor={{platinum color}}
|sprite=Pt_Lucas_Back.png
|prize=None
|class=[[Pokémon Trainer|PKMN Trainer]]
|name=Lucas
|game={{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}
|location=[[Route 202]]
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=387
|pokemon=Turtwig
|gender=male/female
|level=5
|type1=Grass
|ability=Overgrow
|move1=Tackle
|move1type=Normal
|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Withdraw
|move2type=Water
|move2cat=Status}}
}}

If the {{player}} chose {{p|Piplup}}:
{{Party
|color={{diamond color}}
|headcolor={{pearl color}}
|bordercolor={{platinum color}}
|sprite=Pt_Lucas_Back.png
|prize=None
|class=[[Pokémon Trainer|PKMN Trainer]]
|name=Lucas
|game={{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}
|location=[[Route 202]]
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=390
|pokemon=Chimchar
|gender=male/female
|level=5
|type1=Fire
|ability=Blaze
|move1=Scratch
|move1type=Normal
|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Leer
|move2type=Normal
|move2cat=Status}}
}}

===Second battle (as partner)===
If the {{player}} chose {{p|Turtwig}}:
{{Party
|color={{diamond color}}
|headcolor={{pearl color}}
|bordercolor={{platinum color}}
|sprite=Pt_Lucas_Back.png
|prize=None
|class=[[Pokémon Trainer|PKMN Trainer]]
|name=Lucas
|game={{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}
|location=[[Jubilife City]]
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=393
|pokemon=Piplup
|gender=male/female
|level=13
|type1=Water
|ability=Torrent
|move1=Bubble
|move1type=Water
|move1cat=Special
|move2=Pound
|move2type=Normal
|move2cat=Physical}}
}}

If the {{player}} chose {{p|Chimchar}}:
{{Party
|color={{diamond color}}
|headcolor={{pearl color}}
|bordercolor={{platinum color}}
|sprite=Pt_Lucas_Back.png
|prize=None
|class=[[Pokémon Trainer|PKMN Trainer]]
|name=Lucas
|game={{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}
|location=[[Jubilife City]]
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=387
|pokemon=Turtwig
|gender=male/female
|level=13
|type1=Grass
|ability=Overgrow
|move1=Absorb
|move1type=Grass
|move1cat=Special
|move2=Tackle
|move2type=Normal
|move2cat=Physical}}
}}

If the {{player}} chose {{p|Piplup}}:
{{Party
|color={{diamond color}}
|headcolor={{pearl color}}
|bordercolor={{platinum color}}
|sprite=Pt_Lucas_Back.png
|prize=None
|class=[[Pokémon Trainer|PKMN Trainer]]
|name=Lucas
|game={{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}
|location=[[Jubilife City]]
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=390
|pokemon=Chimchar
|gender=male/female
|level=13
|type1=Fire
|ability=Blaze
|move1=Ember
|move1type=Fire
|move1cat=Special
|move2=Scratch
|move2type=Normal
|move2cat=Physical}}
}}

===Third battle (as partner)===
If the {{player}} chose {{p|Turtwig}}:
{{Party
|color={{diamond color}}
|headcolor={{pearl color}}
|bordercolor={{platinum color}}
|sprite=Pt_Lucas_Back.png
|prize=None
|class=[[Pokémon Trainer|PKMN Trainer]]
|name=Lucas
|game={{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}
|location=[[Veilstone City]]
|pokemon=3
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=035
|pokemon=Clefairy
|gender=
|level=25
|type1=Normal
|ability=Cute Charm
|move1=Metronome
|move1type=Normal
|move1cat=Status
|move2=Sing
|move2type=Normal
|move2cat=Status
|move3=Gravity
|move3type=Psychic
|move3cat=Status
|move4=Wake-Up Slap
|move4type=Fighting
|move4cat=Physical}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=064 m
|pokemon=Kadabra
|gender=
|level=25
|type1=Psychic
|ability=Synchronize
|move1=Psybeam
|move1type=Psychic
|move1cat=Special
|move2=Psycho Cut
|move2type=Psychic
|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Reflect
|move3type=Psychic
|move3cat=Status
|move4=Light Screen
|move4type=Psychic
|move4cat=Status}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=394
|pokemon=Prinplup
|gender=male/female
|level=28
|type1=Water
|ability=Torrent
|move1=BubbleBeam
|move1type=Water
|move1cat=Special
|move2=Peck
|move2type=Flying
|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Fury Attack
|move3type=Normal
|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Metal Claw
|move4type=Steel
|move4cat=Physical}}
}}

If the {{player}} chose {{p|Chimchar}}:
{{Party
|color={{diamond color}}
|headcolor={{pearl color}}
|bordercolor={{platinum color}}
|sprite=Pt_Lucas_Back.png
|prize=None
|class=[[Pokémon Trainer|PKMN Trainer]]
|name=Lucas
|game={{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}
|location=[[Veilstone City]]
|pokemon=3
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=035
|pokemon=Clefairy
|gender=
|level=25
|type1=Normal
|ability=Cute Charm
|move1=Metronome
|move1type=Normal
|move1cat=Status
|move2=Sing
|move2type=Normal
|move2cat=Status
|move3=Gravity
|move3type=Psychic
|move3cat=Status
|move4=Wake-Up Slap
|move4type=Fighting
|move4cat=Physical}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=064 m
|pokemon=Kadabra
|gender=
|level=25
|type1=Psychic
|ability=Synchronize
|move1=Psybeam
|move1type=Psychic
|move1cat=Special
|move2=Psycho Cut
|move2type=Psychic
|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Reflect
|move3type=Psychic
|move3cat=Status
|move4=Light Screen
|move4type=Psychic
|move4cat=Status}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=388
|pokemon=Grotle
|gender=male/female
|level=28
|type1=Grass
|ability=Overgrow
|move1=Razor Leaf
|move1type=Grass
|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Mega Drain
|move2type=Grass
|move2cat=Special
|move3=Bite
|move3type=Dark
|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Curse
|move4type=???
|move4cat=Status}}
}}

If the {{player}} chose {{p|Piplup}}:
{{Party
|color={{diamond color}}
|headcolor={{pearl color}}
|bordercolor={{platinum color}}
|sprite=Pt_Lucas_Back.png
|prize=None
|class=[[Pokémon Trainer|PKMN Trainer]]
|name=Lucas
|game={{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}
|location=[[Veilstone City]]
|pokemon=3
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=035
|pokemon=Clefairy
|gender=
|level=25
|type1=Normal
|ability=Cute Charm
|move1=Metronome
|move1type=Normal
|move1cat=Status
|move2=Sing
|move2type=Normal
|move2cat=Status
|move3=Gravity
|move3type=Psychic
|move3cat=Status
|move4=Wake-Up Slap
|move4type=Fighting
|move4cat=Physical}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=064 m
|pokemon=Kadabra
|gender=
|level=25
|type1=Psychic
|ability=Synchronize
|move1=Psybeam
|move1type=Psychic
|move1cat=Special
|move2=Psycho Cut
|move2type=Psychic
|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Reflect
|move3type=Psychic
|move3cat=Status
|move4=Light Screen
|move4type=Psychic
|move4cat=Status}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=391
|pokemon=Monferno
|gender=male/female
|level=28
|type1=Fire
|type2=Fighting
|ability=Blaze
|move1=Flame Wheel
|move1type=Fire
|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Ember
|move2type=Fire
|move2cat=Special
|move3=Mach Punch
|move3type=Fighting
|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Fury Swipes
|move4type=Normal
|move4cat=Physical}}
}}

==Optional names for Lucas (as player character)==
[[File:Diamond Pearl Lucas.png|thumb|right|120px|Art from Diamond and Pearl]]

{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #88a; border-collapse: collapse;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #ccf;"
! Language || English || Japanese || German || French || Italian || Spanish || Korean
|-
! Diamond/Pearl
||
* ''Diamond''
* ''Pearl''
* ''Ash''
* ''Nic''
* ''Jimmy''
* ''Duncan''
* ''Todd''
* ''Ross''
* ''Steven''
* ''Darrell''
* ''Reed''
* ''Chris''
* ''Brad''
* ''Dwight''
* ''Randy''
* ''Andy''
* ''Joey''
* ''Eric''
* ''Mark''
||
* ダイヤ ''Dia''
* パール ''Pearl''
* カモン ''Kamon''
* ケイ ''Kay''
* ケン ''Ken''
* サトシ ''Satoshi''
* シゲキ ''Shigeki''
* ジャック ''Jack''
* ジャン ''Jean''
* ジョン ''John''
* タカオ ''Takao''
* タカシ ''Takashi''
* タケヒロ ''Takehiro''
* テツオ ''Tetsuo''
* トオル ''Tōru''
* ヒトシ ''Hitoshi''
* ヒロアキ ''Hiroaki''
* ヒロキ ''Hiroki''
* マサオ ''Masao''
||
* ''Diamant''
* ''Perl''
* ''Helge''
* ''Udo''
* ''Thomas''
* ''Boris''
* ''Hans''
* ''Silvio''
* ''Daniel''
* ''Gerd''
* ''Ralf''
* ''Jack''
* ''John''
* ''Bert''
* ''Uli''
* ''Tobi''
* ''Jon''
* ''Jan''
* ''Karsten''
||
* ''Diamant''
* ''Perlo''
* ''Gurvan''
* ''Polo''
* ''Dilan''
* ''Gabriel''
* ''Zack''
* ''Greg''
* ''Loris''
* ''Seb''
* ''Thomas''
* ''Tom''
* ''Kamel''
* ''Ralph''
* ''Marc''
* ''Max''
* ''Daniel''
* ''Franck''
* ''Damien''
||
* ''Diaman''
* ''Perl''
* ''Attilio''
* ''Marco''
* ''Manuele''
* ''Gabry''
* ''Silvano''
* ''Mattia''
* ''Ash''
* ''Paolo''
* ''Lucio''
* ''Ralph''
* ''Dino''
* ''Karl''
* ''Kamon''
* ''Rossano''
* ''Dimitri''
* ''Oscar''
* ''Daniel''
||
* ''Diamant''
* ''Perla''
* ''Quimi''
* ''Ner''
* ''Ral''
* ''Sergi''
* ''Ash''
* ''Candel''
* ''Rafa''
* ''Juno''
* ''Juanma''
* ''Marino''
* ''Max''
* ''Morel''
* ''Eric''
* ''Llamin''
* ''Javi''
* ''Rudy''
* ''Toilo''
||
* 다이아몬드 ''Diamond''
* 펄 ''Pearl''
* 강산 ''Gangsan''
* 다인 ''Dain''
* 상우 ''Sang'u''
* 상현 ''Sanghyeon''
* 수호 ''Suho''
* 윤호 ''Yunho''
* 인철 ''Incheol''
* 재범 ''Jaebeom''
* 쟝 ''Jyang''
* 지겸 ''Jigyeom''
* 지우 ''{{tt|Jiu|Ash}}
* 지훈 ''Jihun''
* 찬호 ''Chanho''
* 청운 ''Cheong'un''
* 캔 ''Ken''
* 케이 ''Kay''
* 호진 ''Hojin''
|}

==In the anime==
[[Image:Lucas.png|230px|thumb|Lucas in the anime]]
Lucas has a cameo appearance at the beginning of ''[[Giratina and the Sky Warrior]]'', in a battle against {{ga|Brendan}}.

===Pokémon===
This is a listing of Lucas' known Pokémon in the anime:
{|border="1" style="border: 1px solid #000; border-collapse: collapse;" width=100px cellspacing="0"
|-
| align=center | [[Image:467.png]] {{p|Magmortar}}
|}

==Trivia==
[[File:Lucas anime.png|Anime artwork|thumb|220px]]
* Like {{ga|Pearl}} having one of his default Japanese names being [[Gary Oak|Shigeru]], one of Lucas's default names is [[Ash Ketchum|Satoshi]]. In English translations "Ash" is one of default names for Lucas, but there is no "Gary" among {{ga|Pearl}}'s names. However, this was apparently recognized in German and Korean translations, which also have Ash's and Gary's name as one of Lucas's and Pearl's names.
* One of Lucas's optional names include [[Todd Snap|Todd]] in English translation and トオル ''Tōru'' (Todd's Japanese name) in Japanese translations. Other language versions do not catch this. Another name from the show is {{jo|Jimmy}}. This one, however, is probably coincidental.
**Another of Lucas's optional names is Mark, the name of the male protagonist from the Game Boy TCG games.
* The majority of his Japanese default names are shared with {{ga|Red}} from {{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}} and {{ga|Gold}} from {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}.
* Unlike most game characters with anime counterparts, the clothes of Lucas's anime counterpart are of different colors to his.
* Lucas is 4'7" (145 cm) tall and weighs 83.8 lbs (38 kg).
* Lucas and Dawn are asked if they are a couple by [[Mars]] during the Lake Acuity battle: ''"So what is it? Are you some [[FortuneShipping|lovey-dovey couple]] to the rescue?"''
* After the {{player}} defeats the {{DL|Elite Four|Sinnoh Elite Four}} and becomes the {{pkmn|Champion}}, Lucas will stay at the front side of [[Professor Rowan]]'s laboratory in [[Sandgem Town]] (if the player chose Dawn). If the player has set the birth date on the DS Settings, he'll say the following in conversation when talked to on that day:

"''Hey,<player's name>? Is it maybe your birthday today?''"

If "Yes":

"''I thought so! Congratulations, <player's name>! You know, I'm glad we're friends!''"

If "No":

"''Huh? It isn't? Now, what made me think it was your birthday? Freaky weird.''"
*{{ga|Dawn}} and Lucas were shown to be holding [[Repeat Ball]] in their {{v2|Platinum}} artwork, while {{ga|May}} and {{ga|Brendan}} are holding a [[Premier Ball]] in their {{v2|Emerald}} artwork.
*The position of his {{v2|Platinum}} sprite looks similar to the position of {{ga|Kris}}'s Sugimori artwork in {{v2|Crystal}}.

{{Player characters}} 
{{Project CharacterDex notice}}
[[Category:Diamond and Pearl characters]]
[[Category:Platinum characters]]
[[Category:Male characters]]

[[es:León (personaje)]]
[[fr:Louka]]

Lucas (game)

2009-12-06T14:29:53Z

Poke nav: /* Second battle (as partner) */

{{CharacterInfobox|
name=Lucas |
jname=コウキ |
tmname=Kōki |
image=[[File:Platinum_Lucas.png|220px]] |
caption=Art from Platinum |
gender=Male |
hometown=[[Twinleaf Town]] (as player), [[Sandgem Town]] (as partner) |
region=[[Sinnoh]] |
relatives=[[Johanna]], unnamed father (as player), unnamed sister, grandfather, father (as partner) |
trainer=yes |
trainerclass={{pkmn|Trainer}} |
numpkmncaught=Varies with canon |
game=yes |
generation={{Gen|IV}} |
games={{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}} |
leader=no |
elite=no |
team=no |
brain=no |
anime=no |
}}

'''Lucas''' (Japanese: '''コウキ''' ''Kōki'') is the male player character of {{game|Diamond and Pearl|s}}. The female counterpart is {{ga|Dawn}}. If the player chooses Dawn, he will become {{Prof|Rowan}}'s assistant for the game. Lucas lives in [[Sandgem Town]] with his little sister, grandfather, and father - who works as an assistant of Professor Rowan. He is already the Professor's assistant at the beginning of the game. He also demonstrates to the player how to capture Pokémon by capturing a wild {{p|Bidoof}}.

The character {{adv|Diamond}} from the [[Pokémon Adventures]] manga is based off of the design of Lucas.

His English name is derived from "lux", the Latin root word for light, while his Japanese name is a reference to the Japanese word for "brightness" (光輝 ''kōki''), much like {{ga|Dawn|Hikari}} means light (光). It is also similar to 金剛石 '''''k'''ong'''ō'''se'''ki''''', a Japanese word for {{game3|Diamond and Pearl|diamond|s}}.

==Pokémon==
{| align=right border="1" style="border: 1px solid #000; border-collapse: collapse;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- align=center
| [[Image:Koki.png]]
| [[Image:lucasplatinum.png]]
| [[Image:LucasChallenge.png]]
|- align=center style="font-size: 80%;"
| Lucas's sprite from {{2v2|Diamond|Pearl}}
| Lucas's sprite from {{v2|Platinum}}
| Lucas's Challenge sprite from {{v2|Platinum}}
|}

This listing is for Lucas's Pokémon in the video games in which he has appeared.
===First battle (capture tutorial)===
If the {{player}} chose {{p|Turtwig}}:
{{Party
|color={{diamond color}}
|headcolor={{pearl color}}
|bordercolor={{platinum color}}
|sprite=Pt_Lucas_Back.png
|prize=None
|class=[[Pokémon Trainer|PKMN Trainer]]
|name=Lucas
|game={{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}
|location=[[Route 202]]
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=393
|pokemon=Piplup
|gender=male/female
|level=5
|type1=Water
|ability=Torrent
|move1=Pound
|move1type=Normal
|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Growl
|move2type=Normal
|move2cat=Status}}
}}

If the {{player}} chose {{p|Chimchar}}:
{{Party
|color={{diamond color}}
|headcolor={{pearl color}}
|bordercolor={{platinum color}}
|sprite=Pt_Lucas_Back.png
|prize=None
|class=[[Pokémon Trainer|PKMN Trainer]]
|name=Lucas
|game={{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}
|location=[[Route 202]]
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=387
|pokemon=Turtwig
|gender=male/female
|level=5
|type1=Grass
|ability=Overgrow
|move1=Tackle
|move1type=Normal
|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Withdraw
|move2type=Water
|move2cat=Status}}
}}

If the {{player}} chose {{p|Piplup}}:
{{Party
|color={{diamond color}}
|headcolor={{pearl color}}
|bordercolor={{platinum color}}
|sprite=Pt_Lucas_Back.png
|prize=None
|class=[[Pokémon Trainer|PKMN Trainer]]
|name=Lucas
|game={{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}
|location=[[Route 202]]
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=390
|pokemon=Chimchar
|gender=male/female
|level=5
|type1=Fire
|ability=Blaze
|move1=Scratch
|move1type=Normal
|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Leer
|move2type=Normal
|move2cat=Status}}
}}

===Second battle (as partner)===
If the {{player}} chose {{p|Turtwig}}:
{{Party
|color={{diamond color}}
|headcolor={{pearl color}}
|bordercolor={{platinum color}}
|sprite=Pt_Lucas_Back.png
|prize=None
|class=[[Pokémon Trainer|PKMN Trainer]]
|name=Lucas
|game={{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}
|location=[[Jubilife City]]
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=393
|pokemon=Piplup
|gender=male/female
|level=13
|type1=Water
|ability=Torrent
|move1=Bubble
|move1type=Water
|move1cat=Special
|move2=Pound
|move2type=Normal
|move2cat=Physical}}
}}

If the {{player}} chose {{p|Chimchar}}:
{{Party
|color={{diamond color}}
|headcolor={{pearl color}}
|bordercolor={{platinum color}}
|sprite=Pt_Lucas_Back.png
|prize=None
|class=[[Pokémon Trainer|PKMN Trainer]]
|name=Lucas
|game={{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}
|location=[[Jubilife City]]
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=387
|pokemon=Turtwig
|gender=male/female
|level=13
|type1=Grass
|ability=Overgrow
|move1=Absorb
|move1type=Grass
|move1cat=Special
|move2=Tackle
|move2type=Normal
|move2cat=Physical}}
}}

If the {{player}} chose {{p|Piplup}}:
{{Party
|color={{diamond color}}
|headcolor={{pearl color}}
|bordercolor={{platinum color}}
|sprite=Pt_Lucas_Back.png
|prize=None
|class=[[Pokémon Trainer|PKMN Trainer]]
|name=Lucas
|game={{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}
|location=[[Jubilife City]]
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=390
|pokemon=Chimchar
|gender=male/female
|level=13
|type1=Fire
|ability=Blaze
|move1=Ember
|move1type=Fire
|move1cat=Special
|move2=Scratch
|move2type=Normal
|move2cat=Physical}}
}}

===Third battle (as partner)===
If the {{player}} chose {{p|Turtwig}}:
{{Party
|color={{diamond color}}
|headcolor={{pearl color}}
|bordercolor={{platinum color}}
|sprite=DP_Lucas_Back.png
|prize=None
|class=[[Pokémon Trainer|PKMN Trainer]]
|name=Lucas
|game={{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}
|location=[[Veilstone City]]
|pokemon=3
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=035
|pokemon=Clefairy
|gender=
|level=25
|type1=Normal
|ability=Cute Charm
|move1=Metronome
|move1type=Normal
|move1cat=Status
|move2=Sing
|move2type=Normal
|move2cat=Status
|move3=Gravity
|move3type=Psychic
|move3cat=Status
|move4=Wake-Up Slap
|move4type=Fighting
|move4cat=Physical}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=064 m
|pokemon=Kadabra
|gender=
|level=25
|type1=Psychic
|ability=Synchronize
|move1=Psybeam
|move1type=Psychic
|move1cat=Special
|move2=Psycho Cut
|move2type=Psychic
|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Reflect
|move3type=Psychic
|move3cat=Status
|move4=Light Screen
|move4type=Psychic
|move4cat=Status}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=394
|pokemon=Prinplup
|gender=male/female
|level=28
|type1=Water
|ability=Torrent
|move1=BubbleBeam
|move1type=Water
|move1cat=Special
|move2=Peck
|move2type=Flying
|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Fury Attack
|move3type=Normal
|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Metal Claw
|move4type=Steel
|move4cat=Physical}}
}}

If the {{player}} chose {{p|Chimchar}}:
{{Party
|color={{diamond color}}
|headcolor={{pearl color}}
|bordercolor={{platinum color}}
|sprite=DP_Lucas_Back.png
|prize=None
|class=[[Pokémon Trainer|PKMN Trainer]]
|name=Lucas
|game={{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}
|location=[[Veilstone City]]
|pokemon=3
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=035
|pokemon=Clefairy
|gender=
|level=25
|type1=Normal
|ability=Cute Charm
|move1=Metronome
|move1type=Normal
|move1cat=Status
|move2=Sing
|move2type=Normal
|move2cat=Status
|move3=Gravity
|move3type=Psychic
|move3cat=Status
|move4=Wake-Up Slap
|move4type=Fighting
|move4cat=Physical}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=064 m
|pokemon=Kadabra
|gender=
|level=25
|type1=Psychic
|ability=Synchronize
|move1=Psybeam
|move1type=Psychic
|move1cat=Special
|move2=Psycho Cut
|move2type=Psychic
|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Reflect
|move3type=Psychic
|move3cat=Status
|move4=Light Screen
|move4type=Psychic
|move4cat=Status}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=388
|pokemon=Grotle
|gender=male/female
|level=28
|type1=Grass
|ability=Overgrow
|move1=Razor Leaf
|move1type=Grass
|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Mega Drain
|move2type=Grass
|move2cat=Special
|move3=Bite
|move3type=Dark
|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Curse
|move4type=???
|move4cat=Status}}
}}

If the {{player}} chose {{p|Piplup}}:
{{Party
|color={{diamond color}}
|headcolor={{pearl color}}
|bordercolor={{platinum color}}
|sprite=DP_Lucas_Back.png
|prize=None
|class=[[Pokémon Trainer|PKMN Trainer]]
|name=Lucas
|game={{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}
|location=[[Veilstone City]]
|pokemon=3
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=035
|pokemon=Clefairy
|gender=
|level=25
|type1=Normal
|ability=Cute Charm
|move1=Metronome
|move1type=Normal
|move1cat=Status
|move2=Sing
|move2type=Normal
|move2cat=Status
|move3=Gravity
|move3type=Psychic
|move3cat=Status
|move4=Wake-Up Slap
|move4type=Fighting
|move4cat=Physical}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=064 m
|pokemon=Kadabra
|gender=
|level=25
|type1=Psychic
|ability=Synchronize
|move1=Psybeam
|move1type=Psychic
|move1cat=Special
|move2=Psycho Cut
|move2type=Psychic
|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Reflect
|move3type=Psychic
|move3cat=Status
|move4=Light Screen
|move4type=Psychic
|move4cat=Status}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=391
|pokemon=Monferno
|gender=male/female
|level=28
|type1=Fire
|type2=Fighting
|ability=Blaze
|move1=Flame Wheel
|move1type=Fire
|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Ember
|move2type=Fire
|move2cat=Special
|move3=Mach Punch
|move3type=Fighting
|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Fury Swipes
|move4type=Normal
|move4cat=Physical}}
}}

==Optional names for Lucas (as player character)==
[[File:Diamond Pearl Lucas.png|thumb|right|120px|Art from Diamond and Pearl]]

{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #88a; border-collapse: collapse;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #ccf;"
! Language || English || Japanese || German || French || Italian || Spanish || Korean
|-
! Diamond/Pearl
||
* ''Diamond''
* ''Pearl''
* ''Ash''
* ''Nic''
* ''Jimmy''
* ''Duncan''
* ''Todd''
* ''Ross''
* ''Steven''
* ''Darrell''
* ''Reed''
* ''Chris''
* ''Brad''
* ''Dwight''
* ''Randy''
* ''Andy''
* ''Joey''
* ''Eric''
* ''Mark''
||
* ダイヤ ''Dia''
* パール ''Pearl''
* カモン ''Kamon''
* ケイ ''Kay''
* ケン ''Ken''
* サトシ ''Satoshi''
* シゲキ ''Shigeki''
* ジャック ''Jack''
* ジャン ''Jean''
* ジョン ''John''
* タカオ ''Takao''
* タカシ ''Takashi''
* タケヒロ ''Takehiro''
* テツオ ''Tetsuo''
* トオル ''Tōru''
* ヒトシ ''Hitoshi''
* ヒロアキ ''Hiroaki''
* ヒロキ ''Hiroki''
* マサオ ''Masao''
||
* ''Diamant''
* ''Perl''
* ''Helge''
* ''Udo''
* ''Thomas''
* ''Boris''
* ''Hans''
* ''Silvio''
* ''Daniel''
* ''Gerd''
* ''Ralf''
* ''Jack''
* ''John''
* ''Bert''
* ''Uli''
* ''Tobi''
* ''Jon''
* ''Jan''
* ''Karsten''
||
* ''Diamant''
* ''Perlo''
* ''Gurvan''
* ''Polo''
* ''Dilan''
* ''Gabriel''
* ''Zack''
* ''Greg''
* ''Loris''
* ''Seb''
* ''Thomas''
* ''Tom''
* ''Kamel''
* ''Ralph''
* ''Marc''
* ''Max''
* ''Daniel''
* ''Franck''
* ''Damien''
||
* ''Diaman''
* ''Perl''
* ''Attilio''
* ''Marco''
* ''Manuele''
* ''Gabry''
* ''Silvano''
* ''Mattia''
* ''Ash''
* ''Paolo''
* ''Lucio''
* ''Ralph''
* ''Dino''
* ''Karl''
* ''Kamon''
* ''Rossano''
* ''Dimitri''
* ''Oscar''
* ''Daniel''
||
* ''Diamant''
* ''Perla''
* ''Quimi''
* ''Ner''
* ''Ral''
* ''Sergi''
* ''Ash''
* ''Candel''
* ''Rafa''
* ''Juno''
* ''Juanma''
* ''Marino''
* ''Max''
* ''Morel''
* ''Eric''
* ''Llamin''
* ''Javi''
* ''Rudy''
* ''Toilo''
||
* 다이아몬드 ''Diamond''
* 펄 ''Pearl''
* 강산 ''Gangsan''
* 다인 ''Dain''
* 상우 ''Sang'u''
* 상현 ''Sanghyeon''
* 수호 ''Suho''
* 윤호 ''Yunho''
* 인철 ''Incheol''
* 재범 ''Jaebeom''
* 쟝 ''Jyang''
* 지겸 ''Jigyeom''
* 지우 ''{{tt|Jiu|Ash}}
* 지훈 ''Jihun''
* 찬호 ''Chanho''
* 청운 ''Cheong'un''
* 캔 ''Ken''
* 케이 ''Kay''
* 호진 ''Hojin''
|}

==In the anime==
[[Image:Lucas.png|230px|thumb|Lucas in the anime]]
Lucas has a cameo appearance at the beginning of ''[[Giratina and the Sky Warrior]]'', in a battle against {{ga|Brendan}}.

===Pokémon===
This is a listing of Lucas' known Pokémon in the anime:
{|border="1" style="border: 1px solid #000; border-collapse: collapse;" width=100px cellspacing="0"
|-
| align=center | [[Image:467.png]] {{p|Magmortar}}
|}

==Trivia==
[[File:Lucas anime.png|Anime artwork|thumb|220px]]
* Like {{ga|Pearl}} having one of his default Japanese names being [[Gary Oak|Shigeru]], one of Lucas's default names is [[Ash Ketchum|Satoshi]]. In English translations "Ash" is one of default names for Lucas, but there is no "Gary" among {{ga|Pearl}}'s names. However, this was apparently recognized in German and Korean translations, which also have Ash's and Gary's name as one of Lucas's and Pearl's names.
* One of Lucas's optional names include [[Todd Snap|Todd]] in English translation and トオル ''Tōru'' (Todd's Japanese name) in Japanese translations. Other language versions do not catch this. Another name from the show is {{jo|Jimmy}}. This one, however, is probably coincidental.
**Another of Lucas's optional names is Mark, the name of the male protagonist from the Game Boy TCG games.
* The majority of his Japanese default names are shared with {{ga|Red}} from {{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}} and {{ga|Gold}} from {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}.
* Unlike most game characters with anime counterparts, the clothes of Lucas's anime counterpart are of different colors to his.
* Lucas is 4'7" (145 cm) tall and weighs 83.8 lbs (38 kg).
* Lucas and Dawn are asked if they are a couple by [[Mars]] during the Lake Acuity battle: ''"So what is it? Are you some [[FortuneShipping|lovey-dovey couple]] to the rescue?"''
* After the {{player}} defeats the {{DL|Elite Four|Sinnoh Elite Four}} and becomes the {{pkmn|Champion}}, Lucas will stay at the front side of [[Professor Rowan]]'s laboratory in [[Sandgem Town]] (if the player chose Dawn). If the player has set the birth date on the DS Settings, he'll say the following in conversation when talked to on that day:

"''Hey,<player's name>? Is it maybe your birthday today?''"

If "Yes":

"''I thought so! Congratulations, <player's name>! You know, I'm glad we're friends!''"

If "No":

"''Huh? It isn't? Now, what made me think it was your birthday? Freaky weird.''"
*{{ga|Dawn}} and Lucas were shown to be holding [[Repeat Ball]] in their {{v2|Platinum}} artwork, while {{ga|May}} and {{ga|Brendan}} are holding a [[Premier Ball]] in their {{v2|Emerald}} artwork.
*The position of his {{v2|Platinum}} sprite looks similar to the position of {{ga|Kris}}'s Sugimori artwork in {{v2|Crystal}}.

{{Player characters}} 
{{Project CharacterDex notice}}
[[Category:Diamond and Pearl characters]]
[[Category:Platinum characters]]
[[Category:Male characters]]

[[es:León (personaje)]]
[[fr:Louka]]

Lucas (game)

2009-12-06T14:29:25Z

Poke nav: /* First battle (capture tutorial) */

{{CharacterInfobox|
name=Lucas |
jname=コウキ |
tmname=Kōki |
image=[[File:Platinum_Lucas.png|220px]] |
caption=Art from Platinum |
gender=Male |
hometown=[[Twinleaf Town]] (as player), [[Sandgem Town]] (as partner) |
region=[[Sinnoh]] |
relatives=[[Johanna]], unnamed father (as player), unnamed sister, grandfather, father (as partner) |
trainer=yes |
trainerclass={{pkmn|Trainer}} |
numpkmncaught=Varies with canon |
game=yes |
generation={{Gen|IV}} |
games={{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}} |
leader=no |
elite=no |
team=no |
brain=no |
anime=no |
}}

'''Lucas''' (Japanese: '''コウキ''' ''Kōki'') is the male player character of {{game|Diamond and Pearl|s}}. The female counterpart is {{ga|Dawn}}. If the player chooses Dawn, he will become {{Prof|Rowan}}'s assistant for the game. Lucas lives in [[Sandgem Town]] with his little sister, grandfather, and father - who works as an assistant of Professor Rowan. He is already the Professor's assistant at the beginning of the game. He also demonstrates to the player how to capture Pokémon by capturing a wild {{p|Bidoof}}.

The character {{adv|Diamond}} from the [[Pokémon Adventures]] manga is based off of the design of Lucas.

His English name is derived from "lux", the Latin root word for light, while his Japanese name is a reference to the Japanese word for "brightness" (光輝 ''kōki''), much like {{ga|Dawn|Hikari}} means light (光). It is also similar to 金剛石 '''''k'''ong'''ō'''se'''ki''''', a Japanese word for {{game3|Diamond and Pearl|diamond|s}}.

==Pokémon==
{| align=right border="1" style="border: 1px solid #000; border-collapse: collapse;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- align=center
| [[Image:Koki.png]]
| [[Image:lucasplatinum.png]]
| [[Image:LucasChallenge.png]]
|- align=center style="font-size: 80%;"
| Lucas's sprite from {{2v2|Diamond|Pearl}}
| Lucas's sprite from {{v2|Platinum}}
| Lucas's Challenge sprite from {{v2|Platinum}}
|}

This listing is for Lucas's Pokémon in the video games in which he has appeared.
===First battle (capture tutorial)===
If the {{player}} chose {{p|Turtwig}}:
{{Party
|color={{diamond color}}
|headcolor={{pearl color}}
|bordercolor={{platinum color}}
|sprite=Pt_Lucas_Back.png
|prize=None
|class=[[Pokémon Trainer|PKMN Trainer]]
|name=Lucas
|game={{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}
|location=[[Route 202]]
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=393
|pokemon=Piplup
|gender=male/female
|level=5
|type1=Water
|ability=Torrent
|move1=Pound
|move1type=Normal
|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Growl
|move2type=Normal
|move2cat=Status}}
}}

If the {{player}} chose {{p|Chimchar}}:
{{Party
|color={{diamond color}}
|headcolor={{pearl color}}
|bordercolor={{platinum color}}
|sprite=Pt_Lucas_Back.png
|prize=None
|class=[[Pokémon Trainer|PKMN Trainer]]
|name=Lucas
|game={{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}
|location=[[Route 202]]
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=387
|pokemon=Turtwig
|gender=male/female
|level=5
|type1=Grass
|ability=Overgrow
|move1=Tackle
|move1type=Normal
|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Withdraw
|move2type=Water
|move2cat=Status}}
}}

If the {{player}} chose {{p|Piplup}}:
{{Party
|color={{diamond color}}
|headcolor={{pearl color}}
|bordercolor={{platinum color}}
|sprite=Pt_Lucas_Back.png
|prize=None
|class=[[Pokémon Trainer|PKMN Trainer]]
|name=Lucas
|game={{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}
|location=[[Route 202]]
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=390
|pokemon=Chimchar
|gender=male/female
|level=5
|type1=Fire
|ability=Blaze
|move1=Scratch
|move1type=Normal
|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Leer
|move2type=Normal
|move2cat=Status}}
}}

===Second battle (as partner)===
If the {{player}} chose {{p|Turtwig}}:
{{Party
|color={{diamond color}}
|headcolor={{pearl color}}
|bordercolor={{platinum color}}
|sprite=DP_Lucas_Back.png
|prize=None
|class=[[Pokémon Trainer|PKMN Trainer]]
|name=Lucas
|game={{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}
|location=[[Jubilife City]]
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=393
|pokemon=Piplup
|gender=male/female
|level=13
|type1=Water
|ability=Torrent
|move1=Bubble
|move1type=Water
|move1cat=Special
|move2=Pound
|move2type=Normal
|move2cat=Physical}}
}}

If the {{player}} chose {{p|Chimchar}}:
{{Party
|color={{diamond color}}
|headcolor={{pearl color}}
|bordercolor={{platinum color}}
|sprite=DP_Lucas_Back.png
|prize=None
|class=[[Pokémon Trainer|PKMN Trainer]]
|name=Lucas
|game={{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}
|location=[[Jubilife City]]
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=387
|pokemon=Turtwig
|gender=male/female
|level=13
|type1=Grass
|ability=Overgrow
|move1=Absorb
|move1type=Grass
|move1cat=Special
|move2=Tackle
|move2type=Normal
|move2cat=Physical}}
}}

If the {{player}} chose {{p|Piplup}}:
{{Party
|color={{diamond color}}
|headcolor={{pearl color}}
|bordercolor={{platinum color}}
|sprite=DP_Lucas_Back.png
|prize=None
|class=[[Pokémon Trainer|PKMN Trainer]]
|name=Lucas
|game={{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}
|location=[[Jubilife City]]
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=390
|pokemon=Chimchar
|gender=male/female
|level=13
|type1=Fire
|ability=Blaze
|move1=Ember
|move1type=Fire
|move1cat=Special
|move2=Scratch
|move2type=Normal
|move2cat=Physical}}
}}

===Third battle (as partner)===
If the {{player}} chose {{p|Turtwig}}:
{{Party
|color={{diamond color}}
|headcolor={{pearl color}}
|bordercolor={{platinum color}}
|sprite=DP_Lucas_Back.png
|prize=None
|class=[[Pokémon Trainer|PKMN Trainer]]
|name=Lucas
|game={{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}
|location=[[Veilstone City]]
|pokemon=3
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=035
|pokemon=Clefairy
|gender=
|level=25
|type1=Normal
|ability=Cute Charm
|move1=Metronome
|move1type=Normal
|move1cat=Status
|move2=Sing
|move2type=Normal
|move2cat=Status
|move3=Gravity
|move3type=Psychic
|move3cat=Status
|move4=Wake-Up Slap
|move4type=Fighting
|move4cat=Physical}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=064 m
|pokemon=Kadabra
|gender=
|level=25
|type1=Psychic
|ability=Synchronize
|move1=Psybeam
|move1type=Psychic
|move1cat=Special
|move2=Psycho Cut
|move2type=Psychic
|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Reflect
|move3type=Psychic
|move3cat=Status
|move4=Light Screen
|move4type=Psychic
|move4cat=Status}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=394
|pokemon=Prinplup
|gender=male/female
|level=28
|type1=Water
|ability=Torrent
|move1=BubbleBeam
|move1type=Water
|move1cat=Special
|move2=Peck
|move2type=Flying
|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Fury Attack
|move3type=Normal
|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Metal Claw
|move4type=Steel
|move4cat=Physical}}
}}

If the {{player}} chose {{p|Chimchar}}:
{{Party
|color={{diamond color}}
|headcolor={{pearl color}}
|bordercolor={{platinum color}}
|sprite=DP_Lucas_Back.png
|prize=None
|class=[[Pokémon Trainer|PKMN Trainer]]
|name=Lucas
|game={{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}
|location=[[Veilstone City]]
|pokemon=3
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=035
|pokemon=Clefairy
|gender=
|level=25
|type1=Normal
|ability=Cute Charm
|move1=Metronome
|move1type=Normal
|move1cat=Status
|move2=Sing
|move2type=Normal
|move2cat=Status
|move3=Gravity
|move3type=Psychic
|move3cat=Status
|move4=Wake-Up Slap
|move4type=Fighting
|move4cat=Physical}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=064 m
|pokemon=Kadabra
|gender=
|level=25
|type1=Psychic
|ability=Synchronize
|move1=Psybeam
|move1type=Psychic
|move1cat=Special
|move2=Psycho Cut
|move2type=Psychic
|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Reflect
|move3type=Psychic
|move3cat=Status
|move4=Light Screen
|move4type=Psychic
|move4cat=Status}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=388
|pokemon=Grotle
|gender=male/female
|level=28
|type1=Grass
|ability=Overgrow
|move1=Razor Leaf
|move1type=Grass
|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Mega Drain
|move2type=Grass
|move2cat=Special
|move3=Bite
|move3type=Dark
|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Curse
|move4type=???
|move4cat=Status}}
}}

If the {{player}} chose {{p|Piplup}}:
{{Party
|color={{diamond color}}
|headcolor={{pearl color}}
|bordercolor={{platinum color}}
|sprite=DP_Lucas_Back.png
|prize=None
|class=[[Pokémon Trainer|PKMN Trainer]]
|name=Lucas
|game={{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}
|location=[[Veilstone City]]
|pokemon=3
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=035
|pokemon=Clefairy
|gender=
|level=25
|type1=Normal
|ability=Cute Charm
|move1=Metronome
|move1type=Normal
|move1cat=Status
|move2=Sing
|move2type=Normal
|move2cat=Status
|move3=Gravity
|move3type=Psychic
|move3cat=Status
|move4=Wake-Up Slap
|move4type=Fighting
|move4cat=Physical}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=064 m
|pokemon=Kadabra
|gender=
|level=25
|type1=Psychic
|ability=Synchronize
|move1=Psybeam
|move1type=Psychic
|move1cat=Special
|move2=Psycho Cut
|move2type=Psychic
|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Reflect
|move3type=Psychic
|move3cat=Status
|move4=Light Screen
|move4type=Psychic
|move4cat=Status}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=391
|pokemon=Monferno
|gender=male/female
|level=28
|type1=Fire
|type2=Fighting
|ability=Blaze
|move1=Flame Wheel
|move1type=Fire
|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Ember
|move2type=Fire
|move2cat=Special
|move3=Mach Punch
|move3type=Fighting
|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Fury Swipes
|move4type=Normal
|move4cat=Physical}}
}}

==Optional names for Lucas (as player character)==
[[File:Diamond Pearl Lucas.png|thumb|right|120px|Art from Diamond and Pearl]]

{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #88a; border-collapse: collapse;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #ccf;"
! Language || English || Japanese || German || French || Italian || Spanish || Korean
|-
! Diamond/Pearl
||
* ''Diamond''
* ''Pearl''
* ''Ash''
* ''Nic''
* ''Jimmy''
* ''Duncan''
* ''Todd''
* ''Ross''
* ''Steven''
* ''Darrell''
* ''Reed''
* ''Chris''
* ''Brad''
* ''Dwight''
* ''Randy''
* ''Andy''
* ''Joey''
* ''Eric''
* ''Mark''
||
* ダイヤ ''Dia''
* パール ''Pearl''
* カモン ''Kamon''
* ケイ ''Kay''
* ケン ''Ken''
* サトシ ''Satoshi''
* シゲキ ''Shigeki''
* ジャック ''Jack''
* ジャン ''Jean''
* ジョン ''John''
* タカオ ''Takao''
* タカシ ''Takashi''
* タケヒロ ''Takehiro''
* テツオ ''Tetsuo''
* トオル ''Tōru''
* ヒトシ ''Hitoshi''
* ヒロアキ ''Hiroaki''
* ヒロキ ''Hiroki''
* マサオ ''Masao''
||
* ''Diamant''
* ''Perl''
* ''Helge''
* ''Udo''
* ''Thomas''
* ''Boris''
* ''Hans''
* ''Silvio''
* ''Daniel''
* ''Gerd''
* ''Ralf''
* ''Jack''
* ''John''
* ''Bert''
* ''Uli''
* ''Tobi''
* ''Jon''
* ''Jan''
* ''Karsten''
||
* ''Diamant''
* ''Perlo''
* ''Gurvan''
* ''Polo''
* ''Dilan''
* ''Gabriel''
* ''Zack''
* ''Greg''
* ''Loris''
* ''Seb''
* ''Thomas''
* ''Tom''
* ''Kamel''
* ''Ralph''
* ''Marc''
* ''Max''
* ''Daniel''
* ''Franck''
* ''Damien''
||
* ''Diaman''
* ''Perl''
* ''Attilio''
* ''Marco''
* ''Manuele''
* ''Gabry''
* ''Silvano''
* ''Mattia''
* ''Ash''
* ''Paolo''
* ''Lucio''
* ''Ralph''
* ''Dino''
* ''Karl''
* ''Kamon''
* ''Rossano''
* ''Dimitri''
* ''Oscar''
* ''Daniel''
||
* ''Diamant''
* ''Perla''
* ''Quimi''
* ''Ner''
* ''Ral''
* ''Sergi''
* ''Ash''
* ''Candel''
* ''Rafa''
* ''Juno''
* ''Juanma''
* ''Marino''
* ''Max''
* ''Morel''
* ''Eric''
* ''Llamin''
* ''Javi''
* ''Rudy''
* ''Toilo''
||
* 다이아몬드 ''Diamond''
* 펄 ''Pearl''
* 강산 ''Gangsan''
* 다인 ''Dain''
* 상우 ''Sang'u''
* 상현 ''Sanghyeon''
* 수호 ''Suho''
* 윤호 ''Yunho''
* 인철 ''Incheol''
* 재범 ''Jaebeom''
* 쟝 ''Jyang''
* 지겸 ''Jigyeom''
* 지우 ''{{tt|Jiu|Ash}}
* 지훈 ''Jihun''
* 찬호 ''Chanho''
* 청운 ''Cheong'un''
* 캔 ''Ken''
* 케이 ''Kay''
* 호진 ''Hojin''
|}

==In the anime==
[[Image:Lucas.png|230px|thumb|Lucas in the anime]]
Lucas has a cameo appearance at the beginning of ''[[Giratina and the Sky Warrior]]'', in a battle against {{ga|Brendan}}.

===Pokémon===
This is a listing of Lucas' known Pokémon in the anime:
{|border="1" style="border: 1px solid #000; border-collapse: collapse;" width=100px cellspacing="0"
|-
| align=center | [[Image:467.png]] {{p|Magmortar}}
|}

==Trivia==
[[File:Lucas anime.png|Anime artwork|thumb|220px]]
* Like {{ga|Pearl}} having one of his default Japanese names being [[Gary Oak|Shigeru]], one of Lucas's default names is [[Ash Ketchum|Satoshi]]. In English translations "Ash" is one of default names for Lucas, but there is no "Gary" among {{ga|Pearl}}'s names. However, this was apparently recognized in German and Korean translations, which also have Ash's and Gary's name as one of Lucas's and Pearl's names.
* One of Lucas's optional names include [[Todd Snap|Todd]] in English translation and トオル ''Tōru'' (Todd's Japanese name) in Japanese translations. Other language versions do not catch this. Another name from the show is {{jo|Jimmy}}. This one, however, is probably coincidental.
**Another of Lucas's optional names is Mark, the name of the male protagonist from the Game Boy TCG games.
* The majority of his Japanese default names are shared with {{ga|Red}} from {{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}} and {{ga|Gold}} from {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}.
* Unlike most game characters with anime counterparts, the clothes of Lucas's anime counterpart are of different colors to his.
* Lucas is 4'7" (145 cm) tall and weighs 83.8 lbs (38 kg).
* Lucas and Dawn are asked if they are a couple by [[Mars]] during the Lake Acuity battle: ''"So what is it? Are you some [[FortuneShipping|lovey-dovey couple]] to the rescue?"''
* After the {{player}} defeats the {{DL|Elite Four|Sinnoh Elite Four}} and becomes the {{pkmn|Champion}}, Lucas will stay at the front side of [[Professor Rowan]]'s laboratory in [[Sandgem Town]] (if the player chose Dawn). If the player has set the birth date on the DS Settings, he'll say the following in conversation when talked to on that day:

"''Hey,<player's name>? Is it maybe your birthday today?''"

If "Yes":

"''I thought so! Congratulations, <player's name>! You know, I'm glad we're friends!''"

If "No":

"''Huh? It isn't? Now, what made me think it was your birthday? Freaky weird.''"
*{{ga|Dawn}} and Lucas were shown to be holding [[Repeat Ball]] in their {{v2|Platinum}} artwork, while {{ga|May}} and {{ga|Brendan}} are holding a [[Premier Ball]] in their {{v2|Emerald}} artwork.
*The position of his {{v2|Platinum}} sprite looks similar to the position of {{ga|Kris}}'s Sugimori artwork in {{v2|Crystal}}.

{{Player characters}} 
{{Project CharacterDex notice}}
[[Category:Diamond and Pearl characters]]
[[Category:Platinum characters]]
[[Category:Male characters]]

[[es:León (personaje)]]
[[fr:Louka]]

Lucas (game)

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{{CharacterInfobox|
name=Lucas |
jname=コウキ |
tmname=Kōki |
image=[[File:Platinum_Lucas.png|220px]] |
caption=Art from Platinum |
gender=Male |
hometown=[[Twinleaf Town]] (as player), [[Sandgem Town]] (as partner) |
region=[[Sinnoh]] |
relatives=[[Johanna]], unnamed father (as player), unnamed sister, grandfather, father (as partner) |
trainer=yes |
trainerclass={{pkmn|Trainer}} |
numpkmncaught=Varies with canon |
game=yes |
generation={{Gen|IV}} |
games={{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}} |
leader=no |
elite=no |
team=no |
brain=no |
anime=no |
}}

'''Lucas''' (Japanese: '''コウキ''' ''Kōki'') is the male player character of {{game|Diamond and Pearl|s}}. The female counterpart is {{ga|Dawn}}. If the player chooses Dawn, he will become {{Prof|Rowan}}'s assistant for the game. Lucas lives in [[Sandgem Town]] with his little sister, grandfather, and father - who works as an assistant of Professor Rowan. He is already the Professor's assistant at the beginning of the game. He also demonstrates to the player how to capture Pokémon by capturing a wild {{p|Bidoof}}.

The character {{adv|Diamond}} from the [[Pokémon Adventures]] manga is based off of the design of Lucas.

His English name is derived from "lux", the Latin root word for light, while his Japanese name is a reference to the Japanese word for "brightness" (光輝 ''kōki''), much like {{ga|Dawn|Hikari}} means light (光). It is also similar to 金剛石 '''''k'''ong'''ō'''se'''ki''''', a Japanese word for {{game3|Diamond and Pearl|diamond|s}}.

==Pokémon==
{| align=right border="1" style="border: 1px solid #000; border-collapse: collapse;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- align=center
| [[Image:Koki.png]]
| [[Image:lucasplatinum.png]]
| [[Image:LucasChallenge.png]]
|- align=center style="font-size: 80%;"
| Lucas's sprite from {{2v2|Diamond|Pearl}}
| Lucas's sprite from {{v2|Platinum}}
| Lucas's Challenge sprite from {{v2|Platinum}}
|}

This listing is for Lucas's Pokémon in the video games in which he has appeared.
===First battle (capture tutorial)===
If the {{player}} chose {{p|Turtwig}}:
{{Party
|color={{diamond color}}
|headcolor={{pearl color}}
|bordercolor={{platinum color}}
|sprite=DP_Lucas_Back.png
|prize=None
|class=[[Pokémon Trainer|PKMN Trainer]]
|name=Lucas
|game={{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}
|location=[[Route 202]]
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=393
|pokemon=Piplup
|gender=male/female
|level=5
|type1=Water
|ability=Torrent
|move1=Pound
|move1type=Normal
|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Growl
|move2type=Normal
|move2cat=Status}}
}}

If the {{player}} chose {{p|Chimchar}}:
{{Party
|color={{diamond color}}
|headcolor={{pearl color}}
|bordercolor={{platinum color}}
|sprite=DP_Lucas_Back.png
|prize=None
|class=[[Pokémon Trainer|PKMN Trainer]]
|name=Lucas
|game={{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}
|location=[[Route 202]]
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=387
|pokemon=Turtwig
|gender=male/female
|level=5
|type1=Grass
|ability=Overgrow
|move1=Tackle
|move1type=Normal
|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Withdraw
|move2type=Water
|move2cat=Status}}
}}

If the {{player}} chose {{p|Piplup}}:
{{Party
|color={{diamond color}}
|headcolor={{pearl color}}
|bordercolor={{platinum color}}
|sprite=DP_Lucas_Back.png
|prize=None
|class=[[Pokémon Trainer|PKMN Trainer]]
|name=Lucas
|game={{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}
|location=[[Route 202]]
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=390
|pokemon=Chimchar
|gender=male/female
|level=5
|type1=Fire
|ability=Blaze
|move1=Scratch
|move1type=Normal
|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Leer
|move2type=Normal
|move2cat=Status}}
}}

===Second battle (as partner)===
If the {{player}} chose {{p|Turtwig}}:
{{Party
|color={{diamond color}}
|headcolor={{pearl color}}
|bordercolor={{platinum color}}
|sprite=DP_Lucas_Back.png
|prize=None
|class=[[Pokémon Trainer|PKMN Trainer]]
|name=Lucas
|game={{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}
|location=[[Jubilife City]]
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=393
|pokemon=Piplup
|gender=male/female
|level=13
|type1=Water
|ability=Torrent
|move1=Bubble
|move1type=Water
|move1cat=Special
|move2=Pound
|move2type=Normal
|move2cat=Physical}}
}}

If the {{player}} chose {{p|Chimchar}}:
{{Party
|color={{diamond color}}
|headcolor={{pearl color}}
|bordercolor={{platinum color}}
|sprite=DP_Lucas_Back.png
|prize=None
|class=[[Pokémon Trainer|PKMN Trainer]]
|name=Lucas
|game={{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}
|location=[[Jubilife City]]
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=387
|pokemon=Turtwig
|gender=male/female
|level=13
|type1=Grass
|ability=Overgrow
|move1=Absorb
|move1type=Grass
|move1cat=Special
|move2=Tackle
|move2type=Normal
|move2cat=Physical}}
}}

If the {{player}} chose {{p|Piplup}}:
{{Party
|color={{diamond color}}
|headcolor={{pearl color}}
|bordercolor={{platinum color}}
|sprite=DP_Lucas_Back.png
|prize=None
|class=[[Pokémon Trainer|PKMN Trainer]]
|name=Lucas
|game={{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}
|location=[[Jubilife City]]
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=390
|pokemon=Chimchar
|gender=male/female
|level=13
|type1=Fire
|ability=Blaze
|move1=Ember
|move1type=Fire
|move1cat=Special
|move2=Scratch
|move2type=Normal
|move2cat=Physical}}
}}

===Third battle (as partner)===
If the {{player}} chose {{p|Turtwig}}:
{{Party
|color={{diamond color}}
|headcolor={{pearl color}}
|bordercolor={{platinum color}}
|sprite=DP_Lucas_Back.png
|prize=None
|class=[[Pokémon Trainer|PKMN Trainer]]
|name=Lucas
|game={{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}
|location=[[Veilstone City]]
|pokemon=3
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=035
|pokemon=Clefairy
|gender=
|level=25
|type1=Normal
|ability=Cute Charm
|move1=Metronome
|move1type=Normal
|move1cat=Status
|move2=Sing
|move2type=Normal
|move2cat=Status
|move3=Gravity
|move3type=Psychic
|move3cat=Status
|move4=Wake-Up Slap
|move4type=Fighting
|move4cat=Physical}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=064 m
|pokemon=Kadabra
|gender=
|level=25
|type1=Psychic
|ability=Synchronize
|move1=Psybeam
|move1type=Psychic
|move1cat=Special
|move2=Psycho Cut
|move2type=Psychic
|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Reflect
|move3type=Psychic
|move3cat=Status
|move4=Light Screen
|move4type=Psychic
|move4cat=Status}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=394
|pokemon=Prinplup
|gender=male/female
|level=28
|type1=Water
|ability=Torrent
|move1=BubbleBeam
|move1type=Water
|move1cat=Special
|move2=Peck
|move2type=Flying
|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Fury Attack
|move3type=Normal
|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Metal Claw
|move4type=Steel
|move4cat=Physical}}
}}

If the {{player}} chose {{p|Chimchar}}:
{{Party
|color={{diamond color}}
|headcolor={{pearl color}}
|bordercolor={{platinum color}}
|sprite=DP_Lucas_Back.png
|prize=None
|class=[[Pokémon Trainer|PKMN Trainer]]
|name=Lucas
|game={{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}
|location=[[Veilstone City]]
|pokemon=3
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=035
|pokemon=Clefairy
|gender=
|level=25
|type1=Normal
|ability=Cute Charm
|move1=Metronome
|move1type=Normal
|move1cat=Status
|move2=Sing
|move2type=Normal
|move2cat=Status
|move3=Gravity
|move3type=Psychic
|move3cat=Status
|move4=Wake-Up Slap
|move4type=Fighting
|move4cat=Physical}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=064 m
|pokemon=Kadabra
|gender=
|level=25
|type1=Psychic
|ability=Synchronize
|move1=Psybeam
|move1type=Psychic
|move1cat=Special
|move2=Psycho Cut
|move2type=Psychic
|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Reflect
|move3type=Psychic
|move3cat=Status
|move4=Light Screen
|move4type=Psychic
|move4cat=Status}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=388
|pokemon=Grotle
|gender=male/female
|level=28
|type1=Grass
|ability=Overgrow
|move1=Razor Leaf
|move1type=Grass
|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Mega Drain
|move2type=Grass
|move2cat=Special
|move3=Bite
|move3type=Dark
|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Curse
|move4type=???
|move4cat=Status}}
}}

If the {{player}} chose {{p|Piplup}}:
{{Party
|color={{diamond color}}
|headcolor={{pearl color}}
|bordercolor={{platinum color}}
|sprite=DP_Lucas_Back.png
|prize=None
|class=[[Pokémon Trainer|PKMN Trainer]]
|name=Lucas
|game={{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}
|location=[[Veilstone City]]
|pokemon=3
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=035
|pokemon=Clefairy
|gender=
|level=25
|type1=Normal
|ability=Cute Charm
|move1=Metronome
|move1type=Normal
|move1cat=Status
|move2=Sing
|move2type=Normal
|move2cat=Status
|move3=Gravity
|move3type=Psychic
|move3cat=Status
|move4=Wake-Up Slap
|move4type=Fighting
|move4cat=Physical}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=064 m
|pokemon=Kadabra
|gender=
|level=25
|type1=Psychic
|ability=Synchronize
|move1=Psybeam
|move1type=Psychic
|move1cat=Special
|move2=Psycho Cut
|move2type=Psychic
|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Reflect
|move3type=Psychic
|move3cat=Status
|move4=Light Screen
|move4type=Psychic
|move4cat=Status}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=391
|pokemon=Monferno
|gender=male/female
|level=28
|type1=Fire
|type2=Fighting
|ability=Blaze
|move1=Flame Wheel
|move1type=Fire
|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Ember
|move2type=Fire
|move2cat=Special
|move3=Mach Punch
|move3type=Fighting
|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Fury Swipes
|move4type=Normal
|move4cat=Physical}}
}}

==Optional names for Lucas (as player character)==
[[File:Diamond Pearl Lucas.png|thumb|right|120px|Art from Diamond and Pearl]]

{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #88a; border-collapse: collapse;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #ccf;"
! Language || English || Japanese || German || French || Italian || Spanish || Korean
|-
! Diamond/Pearl
||
* ''Diamond''
* ''Pearl''
* ''Ash''
* ''Nic''
* ''Jimmy''
* ''Duncan''
* ''Todd''
* ''Ross''
* ''Steven''
* ''Darrell''
* ''Reed''
* ''Chris''
* ''Brad''
* ''Dwight''
* ''Randy''
* ''Andy''
* ''Joey''
* ''Eric''
* ''Mark''
||
* ダイヤ ''Dia''
* パール ''Pearl''
* カモン ''Kamon''
* ケイ ''Kay''
* ケン ''Ken''
* サトシ ''Satoshi''
* シゲキ ''Shigeki''
* ジャック ''Jack''
* ジャン ''Jean''
* ジョン ''John''
* タカオ ''Takao''
* タカシ ''Takashi''
* タケヒロ ''Takehiro''
* テツオ ''Tetsuo''
* トオル ''Tōru''
* ヒトシ ''Hitoshi''
* ヒロアキ ''Hiroaki''
* ヒロキ ''Hiroki''
* マサオ ''Masao''
||
* ''Diamant''
* ''Perl''
* ''Helge''
* ''Udo''
* ''Thomas''
* ''Boris''
* ''Hans''
* ''Silvio''
* ''Daniel''
* ''Gerd''
* ''Ralf''
* ''Jack''
* ''John''
* ''Bert''
* ''Uli''
* ''Tobi''
* ''Jon''
* ''Jan''
* ''Karsten''
||
* ''Diamant''
* ''Perlo''
* ''Gurvan''
* ''Polo''
* ''Dilan''
* ''Gabriel''
* ''Zack''
* ''Greg''
* ''Loris''
* ''Seb''
* ''Thomas''
* ''Tom''
* ''Kamel''
* ''Ralph''
* ''Marc''
* ''Max''
* ''Daniel''
* ''Franck''
* ''Damien''
||
* ''Diaman''
* ''Perl''
* ''Attilio''
* ''Marco''
* ''Manuele''
* ''Gabry''
* ''Silvano''
* ''Mattia''
* ''Ash''
* ''Paolo''
* ''Lucio''
* ''Ralph''
* ''Dino''
* ''Karl''
* ''Kamon''
* ''Rossano''
* ''Dimitri''
* ''Oscar''
* ''Daniel''
||
* ''Diamant''
* ''Perla''
* ''Quimi''
* ''Ner''
* ''Ral''
* ''Sergi''
* ''Ash''
* ''Candel''
* ''Rafa''
* ''Juno''
* ''Juanma''
* ''Marino''
* ''Max''
* ''Morel''
* ''Eric''
* ''Llamin''
* ''Javi''
* ''Rudy''
* ''Toilo''
||
* 다이아몬드 ''Diamond''
* 펄 ''Pearl''
* 강산 ''Gangsan''
* 다인 ''Dain''
* 상우 ''Sang'u''
* 상현 ''Sanghyeon''
* 수호 ''Suho''
* 윤호 ''Yunho''
* 인철 ''Incheol''
* 재범 ''Jaebeom''
* 쟝 ''Jyang''
* 지겸 ''Jigyeom''
* 지우 ''{{tt|Jiu|Ash}}
* 지훈 ''Jihun''
* 찬호 ''Chanho''
* 청운 ''Cheong'un''
* 캔 ''Ken''
* 케이 ''Kay''
* 호진 ''Hojin''
|}

==In the anime==
[[Image:Lucas.png|230px|thumb|Lucas in the anime]]
Lucas has a cameo appearance at the beginning of ''[[Giratina and the Sky Warrior]]'', in a battle against {{ga|Brendan}}.

===Pokémon===
This is a listing of Lucas' known Pokémon in the anime:
{|border="1" style="border: 1px solid #000; border-collapse: collapse;" width=100px cellspacing="0"
|-
| align=center | [[Image:467.png]] {{p|Magmortar}}
|}

==Trivia==
[[File:Lucas anime.png|Anime artwork|thumb|220px]]
* Like {{ga|Pearl}} having one of his default Japanese names being [[Gary Oak|Shigeru]], one of Lucas's default names is [[Ash Ketchum|Satoshi]]. In English translations "Ash" is one of default names for Lucas, but there is no "Gary" among {{ga|Pearl}}'s names. However, this was apparently recognized in German and Korean translations, which also have Ash's and Gary's name as one of Lucas's and Pearl's names.
* One of Lucas's optional names include [[Todd Snap|Todd]] in English translation and トオル ''Tōru'' (Todd's Japanese name) in Japanese translations. Other language versions do not catch this. Another name from the show is {{jo|Jimmy}}. This one, however, is probably coincidental.
**Another of Lucas's optional names is Mark, the name of the male protagonist from the Game Boy TCG games.
* The majority of his Japanese default names are shared with {{ga|Red}} from {{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}} and {{ga|Gold}} from {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}.
* Unlike most game characters with anime counterparts, the clothes of Lucas's anime counterpart are of different colors to his.
* Lucas is 4'7" (145 cm) tall and weighs 83.8 lbs (38 kg).
* Lucas and Dawn are asked if they are a couple by [[Mars]] during the Lake Acuity battle: ''"So what is it? Are you some [[FortuneShipping|lovey-dovey couple]] to the rescue?"''
* After the {{player}} defeats the {{DL|Elite Four|Sinnoh Elite Four}} and becomes the {{pkmn|Champion}}, Lucas will stay at the front side of [[Professor Rowan]]'s laboratory in [[Sandgem Town]] (if the player chose Dawn). If the player has set the birth date on the DS Settings, he'll say the following in conversation when talked to on that day:

"''Hey,<player's name>? Is it maybe your birthday today?''"

If "Yes":

"''I thought so! Congratulations, <player's name>! You know, I'm glad we're friends!''"

If "No":

"''Huh? It isn't? Now, what made me think it was your birthday? Freaky weird.''"
*{{ga|Dawn}} and Lucas were shown to be holding [[Repeat Ball]] in their {{v2|Platinum}} artwork, while {{ga|May}} and {{ga|Brendan}} are holding a [[Premier Ball]] in their {{v2|Emerald}} artwork.
*The position of his {{v2|Platinum}} sprite looks similar to the position of {{ga|Kris}}'s Sugimori artwork in {{v2|Crystal}}.

{{Player characters}} 
{{Project CharacterDex notice}}
[[Category:Diamond and Pearl characters]]
[[Category:Platinum characters]]
[[Category:Male characters]]

[[es:León (personaje)]]
[[fr:Louka]]

Dawn (game)

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{{CharacterInfobox|
name=Dawn |
jname=ヒカリ |
tmname=Hikari |
image=[[File:Platinum Dawn.png|250px]] |
caption=Art from Platinum |
gender=Female |
hometown=[[Twinleaf Town]] (as player) [[Sandgem Town]] (as partner) |
region=[[Sinnoh]] |
relatives=[[Johanna]], unnamed father (as player) Unnamed sister, grandfather, father (as partner) |
trainer=yes |
trainerclass={{pkmn|Trainer}} |
numpkmncaught=Varies with canon |
game=yes |
generation={{Gen|IV}} |
games=[[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|Diamond]], [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|Pearl]], and {{v2|Platinum}} |
leader=no |
elite=no |
team=no |
brain=no |
anime=counterpart |
animecounterpart={{an|Dawn}}
}}

'''Dawn''' (Japanese: '''ヒカリ''' ''Hikari'') is the female player character of {{game|Diamond and Pearl|s}}. The male counterpart is {{ga|Lucas}}. If the player chooses Lucas, she will become [[Professor Rowan|Rowan]]'s assistant for the game. Dawn lives in [[Sandgem Town]] with her little sister, grandfather, and father - who works as an assistant of [[Professor Rowan]]. She is already the Professor's assistant at the beginning of the game. She also demonstrates to the player how to capture Pokémon by capturing a wild {{p|Bidoof}}. In {{game|Platinum}}, she will also demonstrate how to use the [[Poké Radar]].

{{an|Dawn}} is also a character from the {{pkmn|anime}} who travels with {{Ash}} and [[Brock]] in [[Sinnoh]]. She is modeled after the game character.

[[Platinum (Adventures)|Platinum Berlitz]] from [[Pokémon Adventures]] and [[Mitsumi]] from [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Adventure!]] are based off Dawn's design.

==Pokémon==
{| align=right border="1" style="border: 1px solid #000; border-collapse: collapse;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- align=center
| [[Image:Hikari.png]]
| [[Image:Dawnplatinum.png]]
| [[Image:DawnChallenge.png]]
|- align=center style="font-size: 80%;"
| Dawn's sprite from {{2v2|Diamond|Pearl}}
| Dawn's sprite from {{v2|Platinum}}
| Dawn's Challenge sprite from {{v2|Platinum}}
|}

This listing is for Dawn's Pokémon in the video games in which she has appeared.

===First battle (capture tutorial)===
If the {{player}} chose {{p|Turtwig}}:
{{Party
|color={{diamond color}}
|headcolor={{pearl color}}
|bordercolor={{platinum color}}
|sprite=DP_Dawn_Back.png
|prize=None
|class=[[Pokémon Trainer|PKMN Trainer]]
|name=Dawn
|game={{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}
|location=[[Route 202]]
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=393
|pokemon=Piplup
|gender=male/female
|level=5
|type1=Water
|ability=Torrent
|move1=Pound
|move1type=Normal
|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Growl
|move2type=Normal
|move2cat=Status}}
}}

If the {{player}} chose {{p|Chimchar}}:
{{Party
|color={{diamond color}}
|headcolor={{pearl color}}
|bordercolor={{platinum color}}
|sprite=DP_Dawn_Back.png
|prize=None
|class=[[Pokémon Trainer|PKMN Trainer]]
|name=Dawn
|game={{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}
|location=[[Route 202]]
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=387
|pokemon=Turtwig
|gender=male/female
|level=5
|type1=Grass
|ability=Overgrow
|move1=Tackle
|move1type=Normal
|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Withdraw
|move2type=Water
|move2cat=Status}}
}}

If the {{player}} chose {{p|Piplup}}:
{{Party
|color={{diamond color}}
|headcolor={{pearl color}}
|bordercolor={{platinum color}}
|sprite=DP_Dawn_Back.png
|prize=None
|class=[[Pokémon Trainer|PKMN Trainer]]
|name=Dawn
|game={{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}
|location=[[Route 202]]
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=390
|pokemon=Chimchar
|gender=male/female
|level=5
|type1=Fire
|ability=Blaze
|move1=Scratch
|move1type=Normal
|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Leer
|move2type=Normal
|move2cat=Status}}
}}

===Second battle (as partner)===
If the {{player}} chose {{p|Turtwig}}:
{{Party
|color={{diamond color}}
|headcolor={{pearl color}}
|bordercolor={{platinum color}}
|sprite=DP_Dawn_Back.png
|prize=None
|class=[[Pokémon Trainer|PKMN Trainer]]
|name=Dawn
|game={{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}
|location=[[Jubilife City]]
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=393
|pokemon=Piplup
|gender=male/female
|level=13
|type1=Water
|ability=Torrent
|move1=Bubble
|move1type=Water
|move1cat=Special
|move2=Pound
|move2type=Normal
|move2cat=Physical}}
}}

If the {{player}} chose {{p|Chimchar}}:
{{Party
|color={{diamond color}}
|headcolor={{pearl color}}
|bordercolor={{platinum color}}
|sprite=DP_Dawn_Back.png
|prize=None
|class=[[Pokémon Trainer|PKMN Trainer]]
|name=Dawn
|game={{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}
|location=[[Jubilife City]]
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=387
|pokemon=Turtwig
|gender=male/female
|level=13
|type1=Grass
|ability=Overgrow
|move1=Absorb
|move1type=Grass
|move1cat=Special
|move2=Tackle
|move2type=Normal
|move2cat=Physical}}
}}

If the {{player}} chose {{p|Piplup}}:
{{Party
|color={{diamond color}}
|headcolor={{pearl color}}
|bordercolor={{platinum color}}
|sprite=DP_Dawn_Back.png
|prize=None
|class=[[Pokémon Trainer|PKMN Trainer]]
|name=Dawn
|game={{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}
|location=[[Jubilife City]]
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=390
|pokemon=Chimchar
|gender=male/female
|level=13
|type1=Fire
|ability=Blaze
|move1=Ember
|move1type=Fire
|move1cat=Special
|move2=Scratch
|move2type=Normal
|move2cat=Physical}}
}}

===Third battle (as partner)===
If the {{player}} chose {{p|Turtwig}}:
{{Party
|color={{diamond color}}
|headcolor={{pearl color}}
|bordercolor={{platinum color}}
|sprite=DP_Dawn_Back.png
|prize=None
|class=[[Pokémon Trainer|PKMN Trainer]]
|name=Dawn
|game={{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}
|location=[[Veilstone City]]
|pokemon=3
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=035
|pokemon=Clefairy
|gender=
|level=25
|type1=Normal
|ability=Cute Charm
|move1=Metronome
|move1type=Normal
|move1cat=Status
|move2=Sing
|move2type=Normal
|move2cat=Status
|move3=Gravity
|move3type=Psychic
|move3cat=Status
|move4=Wake-Up Slap
|move4type=Fighting
|move4cat=Physical}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=064 m
|pokemon=Kadabra
|gender=
|level=25
|type1=Psychic
|ability=Synchronize
|move1=Psybeam
|move1type=Psychic
|move1cat=Special
|move2=Psycho Cut
|move2type=Psychic
|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Reflect
|move3type=Psychic
|move3cat=Status
|move4=Light Screen
|move4type=Psychic
|move4cat=Status}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=394
|pokemon=Prinplup
|gender=male/female
|level=28
|type1=Water
|ability=Torrent
|move1=BubbleBeam
|move1type=Water
|move1cat=Special
|move2=Peck
|move2type=Flying
|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Fury Attack
|move3type=Normal
|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Metal Claw
|move4type=Steel
|move4cat=Physical}}
}}

If the {{player}} chose {{p|Chimchar}}:
{{Party
|color={{diamond color}}
|headcolor={{pearl color}}
|bordercolor={{platinum color}}
|sprite=DP_Dawn_Back.png
|prize=None
|class=[[Pokémon Trainer|PKMN Trainer]]
|name=Dawn
|game={{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}
|location=[[Veilstone City]]
|pokemon=3
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=035
|pokemon=Clefairy
|gender=
|level=25
|type1=Normal
|ability=Cute Charm
|move1=Metronome
|move1type=Normal
|move1cat=Status
|move2=Sing
|move2type=Normal
|move2cat=Status
|move3=Gravity
|move3type=Psychic
|move3cat=Status
|move4=Wake-Up Slap
|move4type=Fighting
|move4cat=Physical}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=064 m
|pokemon=Kadabra
|gender=
|level=25
|type1=Psychic
|ability=Synchronize
|move1=Psybeam
|move1type=Psychic
|move1cat=Special
|move2=Psycho Cut
|move2type=Psychic
|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Reflect
|move3type=Psychic
|move3cat=Status
|move4=Light Screen
|move4type=Psychic
|move4cat=Status}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=388
|pokemon=Grotle
|gender=male/female
|level=28
|type1=Grass
|ability=Overgrow
|move1=Razor Leaf
|move1type=Grass
|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Mega Drain
|move2type=Grass
|move2cat=Special
|move3=Bite
|move3type=Dark
|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Curse
|move4type=???
|move4cat=Status}}
}}

If the {{player}} chose {{p|Piplup}}:
{{Party
|color={{diamond color}}
|headcolor={{pearl color}}
|bordercolor={{platinum color}}
|sprite=DP_Dawn_Back.png
|prize=None
|class=[[Pokémon Trainer|PKMN Trainer]]
|name=Dawn
|game={{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}
|location=[[Veilstone City]]
|pokemon=3
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=035
|pokemon=Clefairy
|gender=
|level=25
|type1=Normal
|ability=Cute Charm
|move1=Metronome
|move1type=Normal
|move1cat=Status
|move2=Sing
|move2type=Normal
|move2cat=Status
|move3=Gravity
|move3type=Psychic
|move3cat=Status
|move4=Wake-Up Slap
|move4type=Fighting
|move4cat=Physical}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=064 m
|pokemon=Kadabra
|gender=
|level=25
|type1=Psychic
|ability=Synchronize
|move1=Psybeam
|move1type=Psychic
|move1cat=Special
|move2=Psycho Cut
|move2type=Psychic
|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Reflect
|move3type=Psychic
|move3cat=Status
|move4=Light Screen
|move4type=Psychic
|move4cat=Status}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Diamond
|ndex=391
|pokemon=Monferno
|gender=male/female
|level=28
|type1=Fire
|type2=Fighting
|ability=Blaze
|move1=Flame Wheel
|move1type=Fire
|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Ember
|move2type=Fire
|move2cat=Special
|move3=Mach Punch
|move3type=Fighting
|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Fury Swipes
|move4type=Normal
|move4cat=Physical}}
}}

==Optional names for Dawn (as player character)==
[[File:Diamond Pearl Dawn.png|thumb|right|150px|Art from Diamond & Pearl]]
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #88a; border-collapse: collapse;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #ccf;"
! Language || English || Japanese || German || French || Italian || Spanish || Korean
|-
!
Diamond
Pearl
Platinum
||
* ''Diamond''
* ''Pearl''
* ''Karla''
* ''Britney''
* ''Kelli''
* ''Nina''
* ''Heidi''
* ''Miriam''
* ''Teresa''
* ''Aubrey''
* ''Kelly''
* ''Naomi''
* ''Abby''
* ''Denise''
* ''Tamara''
* ''Linda''
* ''Faith''
* ''Mari''
* ''Maggie''
||
* ダイヤ ''Dia''
* パール ''Pearl''
* キョウコ ''Kyōko''
* キヨミ ''Kiyomi''
* サトコ ''Satoko''
* ジュンコ ''Junko''
* セツコ ''Setsuko''
* チナミ ''Chinami''
* チホ ''Chiho''
* ノリコ ''Noriko''
* ヒサエ ''Hisae''
* マキコ ''Makiko''
* マミナ ''Mamina''
* ミキコ ''Mikiko''
* ミスズ ''Misuzu''
* ミチコ ''Michiko''
* モモコ ''Momoko''
* ユキコ ''Yukiko''
* リエ ''Rie''
||
* ''Diamant''
* ''Perl''
* ''Sina''
* ''Pia''
* ''Mandy''
* ''Sigrun''
* ''Daniela''
* ''Silke''
* ''Ute''
* ''Linda''
* ''Susi''
* ''Diana''
* ''Andrea''
* ''Elena''
* ''Birgit''
* ''Antje''
* ''Eva''
* ''Sara''
* ''Jamie''
||
* ''Diamant''
* ''Perle''
* ''Flo''
* ''Linda''
* ''Audrey''
* ''Marion''
* ''Hélène''
* ''Sayaka''
* ''Claire''
* ''Coralie''
* ''Noémie''
* ''Lucie''
* ''Nadia''
* ''Yuki''
* ''Joanna''
* ''Edith''
* ''Carmen''
* ''Sophie''
* ''Caro''
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* ''Diaman''
* ''Perl''
* ''Lorenza''
* ''Wilma''
* ''Claudia''
* ''Letizia''
* ''Amanda''
* ''Viviana''
* ''Elisa''
* ''Isotta''
* ''Monia''
* ''Paola''
* ''Sara''
* ''Ivana''
* ''Linda''
* ''Gaia''
* ''Luisa''
* ''Ilaria''
* ''Cinzia''
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* ''Diamant''
* ''Perla''
* ''Susa''
* ''Aria''
* ''Salia''
* ''Cira''
* ''Nuria''
* ''Nayra''
* ''María''
* ''Mirta''
* ''Rita''
* ''Matilde''
* ''Aiora''
* ''Teresa''
* ''Claudia''
* ''Mariau''
* ''Izarbe''
* ''Mena''
* ''Miriam''
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* 다이아몬드 ''Diamond''
* 펄 ''Pearl''
* 꽃님 ''Kkotnim''
* 나영 ''Nayeong''
* 나정 ''Najeong''
* 링링 ''Ringring''
* 미영 ''Miyeong''
* 사희 ''Sahyi''
* 서연 ''Seoyeon''
* 설아 ''Seola''
* 아라 ''Ara''
* 유경 ''Yugyeong''
* 윤혜 ''Yunhye''
* 은영 ''Eun'yeong''
* 인희 ''Inhyi''
* 주애 ''Juae''
* 지나 ''Jina''
* 태희 ''Taehyi''
* 해나 ''Haena''
|}

==Trivia==
*In both English and Japanese, Dawn shares her name with an [[evolutionary stone]]. However, it is not the same stone: her Japanese name is the same as the name of the Shiny Stone, not the Dawn Stone.
*After the {{player}} defeats the {{DL|Elite Four|Elite Four|Sinnoh Elite Four}} and becomes the [[Champion]], Dawn will stay at the front side of [[Professor Rowan]]'s laboratory in [[Sandgem Town]] (if the player chose Lucas). If the player has set the birth date on the DS Settings, she'll say the following in conversation when talked to on that day:

"''Is today maybe... Your birthday, (player's name)?''"

If "Yes":

"''Giggle... Congratulations, (player's name)! And many more happy returns!''"

If "No":

"''Oh, it isn't? I wonder what made me think that today was your birthday?''".
*Upon reaching the [[Route 207]] entrance to [[Mt. Coronet]], Dawn will appear and ask the player to choose her right or left hand. However, no matter which hand the player chooses, the outcome will be the same: the player will receive the [[Vs. Seeker]] and [[Dowsing Machine]].
*Dawn is 4'6" (140 cm) tall and weighs 75 lbs (34 kg).
*Dawn and Lucas are asked if they are a couple by [[Mars]] during the Lake Verity battle: ''"So what is it? Are you some [[FortuneShipping|lovey-dovey couple]] to the rescue?"''
*Both {{ga|Lucas}}'s and Dawn's {{v2|Platinum}} artwork feature them holding a [[Repeat Ball]]. This may be a subtle pun that Platinum "repeats" the adventure in Sinnoh.
*Like how one of Lucas's default names is [[Ash Ketchum|Satoshi]], one of Dawn's in the Japanese version is [[Ashley|Satoko]]. This is the pseudonym Ash uses in the episode ''[[EP026|Pokémon Scent-sation!]]'' to get into the [[Celadon Gym]].
* The majority of her Japanese default names are shared with {{ga|Leaf}} and {{ga|Kotone}}. She also shares all of {{ga|Kris}}'s alternate Japanese names.
* She shares her Chinese name with [[Wally]].
{{-}}
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! Language
! Name
! Reference to
|-
| Japanese
| ヒカリ ''Hikari''
| Means "light."
|-
| English
| Dawn
| Probably a reference to ''Hikari''; dawn is the day's first light.
|-
| German
| Lucia
| From Latin ''lux'', light.
|-
| French
| Aurore
| Means "dawn" in French.
|-
| Italian
| Lucinda
| From ''Luce'', Italian for light.
|-
| Spanish
| Maya
|
|-
| Korean
| 빛나 ''Bitna''
| Means "lighting", "shining".
|-
| Chinese (Taiwan)
| 小光 ''Xiǎo Guāng''
| From 光 ''hikari'', means "young light".
|}

==Related articles==
*[[Dawn (anime)]]

{{Player characters}}
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{{Project CharacterDex notice}}
[[Category:Diamond and Pearl characters]]
[[Category:Platinum characters]]
[[Category:Female characters]]

[[de:Lucia]]
[[fr:Aurore (jeux)]]
[[pl:Dawn]]
[[pt:Dawn]]

Sprout Tower

2009-12-03T20:07:58Z

Poke nav: /* Trivia */

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|location_name=Sprout Tower
|japanese_name=マダツボミのとう
|translated_name=Madatsubomi Tower
|location=[[Violet City]]
|region=Johto
|generation={{gen|II}}, {{gen|IV}}
|map=Johto Sprout Tower map.gif
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'''Sprout Tower''' (Japanese: '''マダツボミのとう''' ''{{tt|Madatsubomi|Bellsprout}} Tower'') is a pagoda in [[Violet City]] in [[Johto]]. It is inhabited by monks who teach that all living beings coexist through cooperation. These monks train {{p|Bellsprout}}, and occasionally {{p|Hoothoot}}.

As trainers battle, the flexible pagoda shakes from side to side. This flexibility protects the tall tower from earthquakes. This technology is now known as [[jwp:柔構造|柔構造]] ''jūkōzō'', and applied to hundreds of modern high-rise buildings. Legend has it that a 100-foot-tall Bellsprout was used to make the swaying pillar.

As night falls, ghosts are said to appear in the tower, in the form of {{p|Gastly}}.

The design of Sprout Tower is inspired by Buddhist temples in the Nara Prefecture of Japan, such as {{wp|Kōfuku-ji}} and {{wp|Hōryū-ji}} temples.

In {{3v2|Gold|Silver|Crystal}}, after defeating Sage Li, players receive {{HM|05|Flash}}. In {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}, after defeating [[Elder]] Kōsei, players receive {{TM|70|Flash}}.

==Items==
* {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Parlyz Heal}}
* [[X Defend]]
* [[X Accuracy]]
* [[Potion]]
* [[Escape Rope]]
* [[HM05]]/[[TM70]] ({{m|Flash}}): Gift after defeating Sage Li

==Pokémon==
[[Image:HGSS Sprout Tower.png|thumb|right|Sprout Tower in Generation IV]]
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{{catchentry2|019|Rattata|yes|yes|yes|2F, 3F|3-6|100%}}
{{catchtime|night}}
{{catchentry2|019|Rattata|yes|yes|yes|2F, 3F|3-5|15%}}
{{catchentry2|092|Gastly|yes|yes|yes|2F, 3F|3-6|85%}}
{{catchablefooter|road}}

==Trainers==
===Generation II===
{{Trainerheader|road}}
{{Trainerentry|GSC Sage.png|Sage|Nico|96|3|069|Bellsprout|♂|3|None|069|Bellsprout|♂|3|None|069|Bellsprout|♂|3|None}}
{{Trainerdiv|road}}
{{Trainerentry|GSC Sage.png|Sage|Chow|96|3|069|Bellsprout|♂|3|None|069|Bellsprout|♂|3|None|069|Bellsprout|♂|3|None}}
{{Trainerdiv|road}}
{{Trainerentry|GSC Sage.png|Sage|Edmond|96|3|069|Bellsprout|♂|3|None|069|Bellsprout|♂|3|None|069|Bellsprout|♂|3|None}}
{{Trainerdiv|road}}
{{Trainerentry|GSC Sage.png|Sage|Jin|192|1|069|Bellsprout|♂|6|None}}
{{Trainerdiv|road}}
{{Trainerentry|GSC Sage.png|Sage|Neal|192|1|069|Bellsprout|♂|6|None}}
{{Trainerdiv|road}}
{{Trainerentry|GSC Sage.png|Sage|Troy|224|2|069|Bellsprout|♂|7|None|163|Hoothoot|♂|7|None}}
{{Trainerdiv|road}}
{{Trainerentry|GSC Sage.png|Sage|Li|320|3|069|Bellsprout|♂|7|None|163|Hoothoot|♂|10|None|069|Bellsprout|♂|7|None}}
{{Trainerfooter|road|II}}

===Generation IV===
{{Trainerheader|road}}
{{Trainerentry|HGSS Sage.png|Sage|チンネン|144|3|069|Bellsprout|♂|3|None|069|Bellsprout|♂|3|None|069|Bellsprout|♂|3|None|37=Chinnen}}
{{Trainerdiv|road}}
{{Trainerentry|HGSS Sage.png|Sage|モクネン|144|3|069|Bellsprout|♂|3|None|069|Bellsprout|♂|3|None|069|Bellsprout|♂|3|None|37=Mokunen}}
{{Trainerdiv|road}}
{{Trainerentry|HGSS Sage.png|Sage|エイソウ|144|3|069|Bellsprout|♂|3|None|069|Bellsprout|♂|3|None|069|Bellsprout|♂|3|None|37=Eisō}}
{{Trainerdiv|road}}
{{Trainerentry|HGSS Sage.png|Sage|ソウネン|288|1|069|Bellsprout|♂|6|None|37=Sōnen}}
{{Trainerdiv|road}}
{{Trainerentry|HGSS Sage.png|Sage|カクネン|288|1|069|Bellsprout|♂|6|None|37=Kakunen}}
{{Trainerdiv|road}}
{{Trainerentry|HGSS Sage.png|Sage|カイネン|336|2|069|Bellsprout|♂|7|None|163|Hoothoot|♂|7|None|37=Kainen}}
{{Trainerdiv|road}}
{{Trainerentry|HGSS Elder.png|Elder|コウセイ|1200|3|069|Bellsprout|♂|7|None|163|Hoothoot|♂|10|None|069|Bellsprout|♂|7|None|37=Kōsei}}
{{Trainerfooter|road|II}}

==Layout==

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! style="background:#{{steel color light}}" | First floor
! style="background:#{{steel color light}}; -moz-border-radius-topright: 5px;" | Second floor
|- style="background:#000"
! style="background:#{{gold color}}" | {{color2|000|Pokémon Gold and Silver Versions|Gold}}
| rowspan="3" | [[File:Sprouttower1.png|180px]]
| rowspan="3" | [[File:Sprouttower2.png|180px]]
| rowspan="3" | [[File:Sprouttower3.png|180px]]
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==Eyecatch==
<gallery>
File:HGSS Sprout Tower M.png|Morning
File:Screen5.png|Day
File:HGSS Sprout Tower N.png|Night
</gallery>

==Trivia==
*It is actually possible to use {{m|Dig}} to escape from Sprout Tower— even the top floor— and return to the entrance; this is because, as can be seen from the in-battle background used in [[Generation IV]], Sprout Tower is classified as a cave area, rather than a building.

==In other languages==
* '''Dutch:''' ''Bellsprout Toren''
* '''Spanish:''' ''Torre Bellsprout''
* '''Italian:''' ''Torre Sprout''
* '''German:''' ''Knofensaturm''
* '''French:''' ''Tour Chétiflor''

{{Johto}}
{{Project Locations notice}}

[[Category:Johto locations]]
[[Category:Gold, Silver and Crystal locations]]
[[Category:HeartGold and SoulSilver locations]]
[[Category:Towers]]
[[Category:Monuments]]

[[de:Knofensaturm]]
[[fr:Tour Chétiflor]]
[[ja:マダツボミのとう]]

Gracidea (Sinnoh)

2009-11-20T00:00:47Z

Poke nav: Lie. I catched a Shaymin with Ultra Ball, and it was a Fateful encounter Shaymin! The lady gave me the Gracidea with this Shaymin.

{{samename|flower with the same name|Gracidea (flower)}}
----
[[Image:Glacidia.PNG|thumb|right|250px|In the {{pkmn|anime}}]]
'''Gracidea''' (Japanese: '''グラシデア''') is a vast area located in [[Sinnoh]]. It is near the top of a mountain. {{mov|Shaymin|Shaymin|11}}, along with others of its species, lives here. If a Shaymin touches [[Gracidea (flower)|one of the flowers native to this place]], it will immediately change Forme.

==In the anime==
Gracidea was featured in ''[[Giratina and the Sky Warrior]]''. Shaymin was in a rush to get there in time for "flower bearing", a ritual where many Shaymin gather, transform into Sky Forme, and fly away to start a new Gracidea garden in a faraway place.

The Gracidea garden featured in the movie was located at the base of a glacier, and was threatened with destruction when [[Zero]]'s actions in the [[Reverse World]] caused it to start moving. A {{p|Regigigas}}, who inhabited a temple in the mountains of Gracidea, awoke just in time to help stop the impending disaster. In the English dub, the Gracidea garden was also referred to as the "flower garden".
[[Image:Shaymin in glacidia.PNG|thumb|right|210px|Several Shaymin in Gracidea]]

==In the games==
Gracidea did not appear in {{game2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}, but its equivalent is the [[Flower Paradise]], as Shaymin can be found there in the games and there are plenty of flowers, just like Gracidea. In {{game|Platinum}}, the {{OBP|Gracidea|flower}} is given to the player by a lady in [[Floaroma Town]]. The player can only obtain it if they have a fateful encounter Shaymin in their team.

It has also been confirmed by a few people that if using an [[Action Replay]] to cheat for both [[Oak's Letter]] and Cherish Balls, a Gracidea may be obtained. By capturing Shaymin with a Cherish Ball, the game is tricked into believing that the Shaymin was obtained from a from a Nintendo Event.

==Trivia==
*Gracidea's name may come from the word "gratitude", because Shaymin is the [[species|Gratitude Pokémon]]. It might also come from a combination of the Latin words ''gracilis'', modest, and ''dea'', goddess.
*Gracideas were featured in {{p|Shaymin}}'s {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}} Pokédex entry.
{{-}}
{{Sinnohanime}} 
{{Project Anime notice|loc}}

[[Category:Anime locations]]
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User:Poke nav

2009-10-24T12:48:34Z

Poke nav:

{{/Templates/UsertagTower}}
Hello! Well, I'm a fan of Pokémon... see all my usertags. Hope that all this little biography make satisface you!
== BIO ==
I'm a FAN of Pokémon. Fan in CAPS because I<big><big>...LOVE POKÉMON!</big></big> (Ignoring the anime). That is the STUPIDNESS OF [[Ash Ketchum|AXX]] OR WHATEVER HE IS CALLED that came me Interest in the videogames. Bulbapedia is AWESOME guys! Well, bye...

User:Poke nav/Usertags

2009-10-24T12:46:04Z

Poke nav: moved User:Poke nav/Templates/UsertagTower to User:Poke nav/Usertags

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{{User Platinum}}
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User talk:PsychicRider/Archive4

2009-10-23T22:06:53Z

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== Sup! Hi! Yo! WHAT? ==

What do you mean by I'm editing my user too much? I'm a little confused, I'm new here. Can you please leave something on my talk page when you get a chance? [[User:Tommy-SAN|Tommy-SAN]] 23:28, 21 August 2009 (UTC) Tommy-SAN ~ My talk

== Project Merge ==

As you are one of the project leaders involved, I feel obligated to ask before doing this. I think [[Bulbapedia:Project CharacterDex]] and [[Bulbapedia:Project Trainer Class]] should be merged. They are over very similar subjects, and I believe it would be more efficient to have them put together, and modified to encompass more than just game characters. I think CharacterDex is the most appropriate name, because Trainer classes are related articles to the characters. You and Clarky would consequently become Co-Leaders. Do you have any problems with this? ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 23:09, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
:Not at all. I'd be fine with that. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 23:23, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

== Sorry... ==

I'm sorry about all the User: namespace edits that I have been doing but I just wanted my User: PikaPower page to look nice and I would always forget something and have to go back and put it in. I do use the preview button a lot but I always seem to forget something or have to put something new. I have it just the way I want it now so I wont make anymore edits to it for a while. --[[User:PikaPower|'''Pika''']][[User talk:PikaPower|'''Power''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PikaPower|'''♦''']]'' 03:54, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
:M'kay. Just try to limit it to about 4 or so a day. Also, can you...um...change your sig so that it isn't like mine but with your name and links and a diamond shape please? --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 03:59, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
::Okay and sorry about that. I just wanted to try it out. ^-^; How's this one? --[[User:PikaPower|'''Pika''']][[User talk:PikaPower|'''Power''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PikaPower|'''¥''']]'' 04:47, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
:::Uh, it's a little too bright...but it's better...^_^ --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 04:52, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

== Hey ==

It still won't work. ''Alpha'' [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 20:51, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
:It might have to do with the opening in GreenGyarados's Talk Page...Try it again~--[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 20:52, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
::I want to award it to GreenGyarados though... ''Alpha'' [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 20:53, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
:::Yeah, there was an opening in one of the templates in the warning he got or something...Try adding it again, but preview before you save...--[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 20:54, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

== One guestion ==

Can we create our own tags like for example like "this user is from the of" or "this user is in grade"--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 17:48, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
:I think that the Grade one is already existent, but the first example if it doesn't exist, you have to create it in your userspace due to the {{bp|Usertag policy}}. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 18:08, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
::Alright, I was just using those as example to let you know what I was talking about.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 18:16, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

== I've read it and... ==

...when I tryied to edit it everytime my computer shut off. That's why. But I've read the Userspace policy. --[[User:Poke nav|Po]][[User talk:Poke nav|ké]][[Special:Contributions/Poke nav|nav]]. [[User:Poke nav/Glitch|Is]] [[User:Poke nav/User Boxes|a]] [[User:Poke nav/Histories|glitch]] [[User:Poke nav/Manga|master!]] 22:06, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

User:Poke nav

2009-10-23T21:48:28Z

Poke nav: Created page with '{{/Templates/UsertagTower}} Hello! Well, I'm a fan of Pokémon... see all my usertags. I have too many subpages as well my Fanmade. So... Hope that all this little biography make…'

{{/Templates/UsertagTower}}
Hello! Well, I'm a fan of Pokémon... see all my usertags. I have too many subpages as well my Fanmade. So... Hope that all this little biography make satisface you!
== BIO ==
I'm a FAN of Pokémon. Fan in CAPS because I<big><big>...LOVE POKÉMON!</big></big> (Ignoring the anime). That is the STUPIDNESS OF [[Ash Ketchum|AXX]] OR WHATEVER HE IS CALLED that came me Interest in the videogames. Bulbapedia is AWESOME guys! Well, BYE!

User:Poke nav/WildPokémonExample

2009-10-23T21:39:08Z

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Frontier Access

2009-10-23T20:47:18Z

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[[File:HGSS Frontier Front.png|thumb|right|{{ga|Kotone}} and {{p|Rotom}} in the Frontier Front]]
The '''Frontier Front''' (Japanese: '''フロンティアフロント''' ''Frontier Front'') is a location in [[Johto]]. It debuted in {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}.

Located to the west of [[Olivine City]], the Frontier Front immediately connects to {{rt|40}} to the south and the {{G4|Battle Frontier}} to the north. It is a small town situated as a staging area for challengers to the Battle Frontier, much like the [[Fight Area]]. It also features prize redemption shops that [[Battle Points]] can be used at.

{{Johto}}
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[[Category:Johto locations]]
[[Category:HeartGold and SoulSilver locations]]

GB Sounds

2009-10-16T14:24:02Z

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{{search|key item in Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver|the Nintendo GameCube accessory|Game Boy Player}}
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[[File:Bag GB Player Sprite.png|right|frame]]
The '''GB Player''' is an item obtainable in {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}. After the player has defeated all 16 gyms in the game, they can receive it from one of the [[Game Freak]] employees in [[Celadon Mansion]]. It allows the player to change the game's background music to redone 8-bit tracks from {{2v2|Gold|Silver}}.

==Trivia==
* The tracks that weren't in the original Gold and Silver (such as the theme of [[Route]]s {{rtn|47}} and {{rtn|48}}) have received an 8-bit version as well. For example the song at the [[Global Trade Station]] has a new 8-bit version, as it did not appear in the original games.
* The item only changes background themes, not other audio effects.

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[[Category:Items]]

Will-O-Wisp (move)

2009-10-15T23:15:07Z

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{{MoveInfobox|
n=261 |
name=Will-O-Wisp |
jname=おにび |
jtrans=Will-O-Wisp |
desc=The user shoots a sinister, bluish white flame at the foe to inflict a burn. |
gameimage=DPWill o wisp.PNG |
type=Fire |
damagecategory=Status |
basepp=15 |
maxpp=24 |
power=— |
accuracy=75 |
bdesc=??? |
gen=III |
tm4=yes |
tm#4=61 |
na=no |
category=Beauty |
appeal=1 |
jam=4 |
cdesc=Badly startles the Pokémon in front. |
appealsc=2 |
scdesc=Earn +2 if the Pokémon performs first in the turn. |
pokefordex=will-o-wisp |
touches=no |
protect=yes |
magiccoat=yes |
snatch=no |
brightpowder=yes |
kingsrock=no |
flag7=no |
flag8=no |
sound=no |
target=any |
footnotes= }}
'''Will-O-Wisp''' (Japanese: '''おにび''' ''Will-O-Wisp'') is a non-damaging {{type2|Fire}} [[move]] introduced in [[Generation III]].

==Effect==
Will-O-Wisp causes a {{status|burn}} on the target. It has no effect on {{type2|Fire}} Pokémon.

==In the anime==
<gallery perrow=2>
Image:Dusclops will-O-Wisp.jpg|Dusclops using '''Will-O-Wisp'''
Image:Drifblim Will-o-wisp.jpg|{{TP|Fantina|Drifblim}} using '''Will-O-Wisp'''
Image:Giratina will.o.wisp.jpg|{{an|Giratina}} using '''Will-O-Wisp'''
File:BanetteWill-O-Wisp.png|[[Harley|Harley's]] {{p|Banette}} using '''Will-O-Wisp'''
</gallery>

===Pokémon===
'''{{p|Banette}}'''. Banette releases blue flames and shoots them at its foe.
* Used by [[Harley]]'s {{TP|Harley|Banette}} from ''[[AG122|Deceit and Assist!]]'' to present.
'''{{p|Dusclops}}'''. Dusclops releases blue flames.
* Used by a Dusclops in ''[[DP026|Getting the Pre-Contest Titters]]''.
'''{{p|Giratina}}'''. Giratina releases a blue flame from its mouth.
* Used by {{an|Giratina}} in ''[[Giratina and the Sky Warrior]]''.
'''{{p|Dusknoir}}'''. Dusknoir releases blue fireballs from its hands.
* Used by Dusknoir in ''[[Ghoul Daze!]]''.
'''{{p|Drifloon}}''' and '''{{p|Drifblim}}'''. Its eyes glow blue and then it surrounds itself in blue flames in a circular formation. The flames are then fired at the opponent.
* Used by [[Fantina]]'s {{TP|Fantina|Drifloon and Drifblim|Drifblim}} from ''[[DP093|Playing the Leveling Field!]]'' to present.
'''{{p|Magmar}}'''. Magmar releases orange flames from its mouth.
* Used by [[Paul's Magmar]] in ''[[DP128|A Pyramiding Rage!]]''.

==Learnset==
===Generation III===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{Learnlist|Fire}}
{{Moveentry|037|Vulpix|1|Fire||17|}}
{{Moveentry|353|Shuppet|1|Ghost||32}}
{{Moveentry|354|Banette|1|Ghost||32}}
{{Moveentry|355|Duskull|1|Ghost||38}}
{{Moveentry|356|Dusclops|1|Ghost||41}}
{{Learnlist/footer}}

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
{{Breedlist|Fire}}
{{Moveentry|092|Gastly|2|Ghost|Poison|{{p|Koffing}}, {{p|Weezing}} {{p|Ralts}}, {{p|Kirlia}}, {{p|Gardevoir}} {{p|Shuppet}}, {{p|Banette}} {{p|Duskull}}, {{p|Dusclops}}|}}
{{Moveentry|109|Koffing|1|Poison||{{p|Gastly}}, {{p|Haunter}}, {{p|Gengar}} {{p|Ralts}}, {{p|Kirlia}}, {{p|Gardevoir}} {{p|Shuppet}}, {{p|Banette}} {{p|Duskull}}, {{p|Dusclops}}|}}
{{Moveentry|228|Houndour|2|Dark|Fire|{{p|Vulpix}}, {{p|Ninetales}}|}}
{{Moveentry|280|Ralts|1|Psychic||{{p|Gastly}}, {{p|Haunter}}, {{p|Gengar}} {{p|Koffing}}, {{p|Weezing}} {{p|Shuppet}}, {{p|Banette}} {{p|Duskull}}, {{p|Dusclops}}|}}
{{Learnlist/footer/breeding}}

====By [[purification]]====
{{Purificationlist|Fire}}
{{Moveentry|146|Moltres|2|Fire|Flying|[[Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness|XD]]|}}
{{Learnlist/footer}}

===Generation IV===
====By leveling up====
{{Learnlist|Fire}}
{{Moveentry|037|Vulpix|1|Fire||14|}}
{{Moveentry|353|Shuppet|1|Ghost||23}}
{{Moveentry|354|Banette|1|Ghost||23}}
{{Moveentry|355|Duskull|1|Ghost||33}}
{{Moveentry|356|Dusclops|1|Ghost||33}}
{{Moveentry|477|Dusknoir|1|Ghost||33}}
{{Learnlist/footer}}

====By TM61====
{{Learnlist/TM|Fire}}
{{Moveentrytm|004|Charmander|1|Fire|}}
{{Moveentrytm|005|Charmeleon|1|Fire|}}
{{Moveentrytm|006|Charizard|2|Fire|Flying}}
{{Moveentrytm|037|Vulpix|1|Fire|}}
{{Moveentrytm|038|Ninetales|1|Fire|}}
{{Moveentrytm|058|Growlithe|1|Fire}}
{{Moveentrytm|059|Arcanine|1|Fire}}
{{Moveentrytm|077|Ponyta|1|Fire}}
{{Moveentrytm|078|Rapidash|1|Fire|}}
{{Moveentrytm|092|Gastly|2|Ghost|Poison}}
{{Moveentrytm|093|Haunter|2|Ghost|Poison}}
{{Moveentrytm|094|Gengar|2|Ghost|Poison}}
{{Moveentrytm|109|Koffing|1|Poison}}
{{Moveentrytm|110|Weezing|1|Poison}}
{{Moveentrytm|126|Magmar|1|Fire}}
{{Moveentrytm|136|Flareon|1|Fire}}
{{Moveentrytm|146|Moltres|2|Fire|Flying}}
{{Moveentrytm|150|Mewtwo|1|Psychic}}
{{Moveentrytm|151|Mew|1|Psychic}}
{{Moveentrytm|155|Cyndaquil|1|Fire}}
{{Moveentrytm|156|Quilava|1|Fire}}
{{Moveentrytm|157|Typhlosion|1|Fire}}
{{Moveentrytm|200|Misdreavus|1|Ghost}}
{{Moveentrytm|218|Slugma|1|Fire}}
{{Moveentrytm|219|Magcargo|2|Fire|Rock}}
{{Moveentrytm|228|Houndour|2|Dark|Fire}}
{{Moveentrytm|229|Houndoom|2|Dark|Fire}}
{{Moveentrytm|240|Magby|1|Fire}}
{{Moveentrytm|244|Entei|1|Fire|}}
{{Moveentrytm|255|Torchic|1|Fire}}
{{Moveentrytm|256|Combusken|2|Fire|Fighting}}
{{Moveentrytm|257|Blaziken|2|Fire|Fighting}}
{{Moveentrytm|292|Shedinja|2|Bug|Ghost}}
{{Moveentrytm|302|Sableye|2|Dark|Ghost}}
{{Moveentrytm|322|Numel|2|Fire|Ground}}
{{Moveentrytm|323|Camerupt|2|Fire|Ground}}
{{Moveentrytm|324|Torkoal|1|Fire}}
{{Moveentrytm|338|Solrock|2|Rock|Psychic}}
{{Moveentrytm|353|Shuppet|1|Ghost}}
{{Moveentrytm|354|Banette|1|Ghost}}
{{Moveentrytm|355|Duskull|1|Ghost}}
{{Moveentrytm|356|Dusclops|1|Ghost}}
{{Moveentrytm|359|Absol|1|Dark}}
{{Moveentrytm|390|Chimchar|1|Fire}}
{{Moveentrytm|391|Monferno|2|Fire|Fighting}}
{{Moveentrytm|392|Infernape|2|Fire|Fighting}}
{{Moveentrytm|425|Drifloon|2|Ghost|Flying}}
{{Moveentrytm|426|Drifblim|2|Ghost|Flying}}
{{Moveentrytm|429|Mismagius|1|Ghost}}
{{Moveentrytm|442|Spiritomb|2|Ghost|Dark}}
{{Moveentrytm|467|Magmortar|1|Fire}}
{{Moveentrytm|477|Dusknoir|1|Ghost}}
{{Moveentrytm|479|Rotom|2|Electric|Ghost}}
{{Moveentrytm|479|Rotom|2|Electric|Ghost||Heat}}
{{Moveentrytm|479|Rotom|2|Electric|Ghost||Wash}}
{{Moveentrytm|479|Rotom|2|Electric|Ghost||Frost}}
{{Moveentrytm|479|Rotom|2|Electric|Ghost||Fan}}
{{Moveentrytm|479|Rotom|2|Electric|Ghost||Mow}}
{{Moveentrytm|485|Heatran|2|Fire|Steel}}
{{Moveentrytm|487|Giratina|2|Ghost|Dragon}}
{{Moveentrytm|487|Giratina|2|Ghost|Dragon||Origin}}
{{Moveentrytm|491|Darkrai|1|Dark}}
{{Moveentrytm|493|Arceus|1|{{Arceustype}}}}
{{Learnlist/footer}}

====By breeding====
{{Breedlist|Fire}}
{{Moveentry|092|Gastly|2|Ghost|Poison|{{p|Koffing}}, {{p|Weezing}} {{p|Ralts}}, {{p|Kirlia}}, {{p|Gardevoir}} {{p|Shuppet}}, {{p|Banette}} {{p|Duskull}}, {{p|Dusclops}}, {{p|Dusknoir}}|}}
{{Moveentry|109|Koffing|1|Poison||{{p|Gastly}}, {{p|Dusknoir}}, {{p|Gengar}} {{p|Ralts}}, {{p|Kirlia}}, {{p|Gardevoir}} {{p|Shuppet}}, {{p|Banette}} {{p|Duskull}}, {{p|Dusclops}}, {{p|Dusknoir}}|}}
{{Moveentry|228|Houndour|2|Dark|Fire|{{p|Vulpix}}, {{p|Ninetales}}|}}
{{Moveentry|280|Ralts|1|Psychic||{{p|Gastly}}, {{p|Haunter}}, {{p|Gengar}} {{p|Koffing}}, {{p|Weezing}} {{p|Misdreavus}}, {{p|Mismagius}} {{p|Slugma}}, {{p|Magcargo}} {{p|Shuppet}}, {{p|Banette}} {{p|Duskull}}, {{p|Dusclops}}, {{p|Dusknoir}} {{p|Drifloon}}, {{p|Drifblim}} {{p|Spiritomb}}|}}
{{Learnlist/footer/breeding}}

==Trivia==
* Will-O-Wisp is the only [[Status move]] move that inflicts burn.
* {{p|Ralts}} can learn it by breeding, but not by TM.
* In {{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}, the animation shows the flames being purple, although the description says they are bluish white.
* Vulpix is the only non {{type2|Ghost}} to learn it by level up.
* Will-O-Wisp is the only move that directly causes a burn without doing damage.
* Even though Will-O-Wisp is a Status move, it's always shown as an offensive move in the anime never causing any burns at all.

==In other languages==
* Dutch: '''Dwaallicht'''
* French: '''Feu Follet'''
* German: '''Irrlicht'''
* Italian: '''Fuocofatuo'''
* Spanish: '''Fuego Fatuo'''
* Latin American Spanish: '''Luz Fantasma'''
* Portuguese (Brazilian anime): '''Labareda''' or '''Acender Pavio''' (Means '''Fogo Fátuo''')

{{Sleep Powder}}
{{Generation IV TMs}}
{{Project MoveDex notice}}

[[de:Irrlicht]]
[[fr:Feu Follet]]
[[ja:おにび]]
[[pt:Will-O-Wisp]]

Pokémon Red and Blue Versions

2009-10-12T16:11:52Z

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:''This article is about the international releases. For the original Japanese releases, see [[Pokémon Red and Green Versions]] and [[Pokémon Blue Version (Japanese)]].''
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{{Infobox_game |
name = Pokémon Red and Blue Versions |
boxart = [[image:Pokemon_red_box.jpg|200px]][[image:Pokemon_blue_box.jpg|200px]] |
caption = Pokémon Red and Blue's boxart, [[version mascot|depicting]] {{p|Charizard}} and {{p|Blastoise}} respectively. |
category = RPG |
players = 2 players simultaneous |
release_date_ja = February 27, 1996 ({{2v2|Red|Green}}) October 10, 1996 ([[Pokémon Blue Version (Japanese)|Blue]]) |
release_date_au = November 1, 1998 |
release_date_eu = October 5, 1999 |
release_date_na = September 1, 1998 |
release_date_kr = N/A |
publisher = [[Nintendo]] |
developer = [[Game Freak]] |
esrb = E for Everyone|
website_en = [http://www.nintendo.com/gamemini?gameid=m-Game-0000-317 Games : Pokémon Red] [http://www.nintendo.com/gamemini?gameid=m-Game-0000-318 Games : Pokémon Blue] [http://web.archive.org/web/20020401233623/http://www.pokemon.com/games/redblue.html Pokémon Red and Blue] |
website_ja = [http://nintendo.co.jp/n02/dmg/apaj/index.html ポケットモンスター赤] [http://nintendo.co.jp/n02/dmg/apej/index.html ポケットモンスター青] |
}}

{{StrategyWiki|Pokémon Red and Blue}}

'''Pokémon Red Version''' and '''Pokémon Blue Version''' were the first [[Pokémon games]] to see release outside of Japan, becoming available in North America on September 1, 1998, and thus being the first Pokémon media to hit the international market. The pair were followed closely after their release by the [[Pokémon anime]], which began airing less than a week later, and within a year, Pokémon was well-known as a popular Nintendo franchise, with a third version, {{game|Yellow}}, on the way.

Unlike later [[generation]]s, Red and Blue were not the same as they were in their Japanese releases. Japan had gotten their first pair of Pokémon games as {{2v2|Red|Green}}, which in all aspects were the same as Red and Blue with the exception of sprite design. When preparing the games for their English release, it was decided that Red and Green would be merged with Japan's already-released third version, {{v2|Blue| (Japanese)}}, for its improved graphics and sound.

Despite being released towards the end of [[Game Boy|its console's]] lifespan, it quickly became the best-selling non-bundled game released for the Game Boy.

==Plot==
Illustrating the original [[version|Pokémon gameplay concepts]], players begin their game in [[Pallet Town]], a small town in the [[Kanto]] region, on the same day as their former best friend and now {{ga|Blue|rival}}. [[Professor Oak]] calls the player to his laboratory, and allows the player to choose from [[starter Pokémon]]: the {{type2|Grass}} {{p|Bulbasaur}}, {{type2|Fire}} {{p|Charmander}}, or the {{type2|Water}} {{p|Squirtle}}. After the rival has jealously chosen the starter that weakens the player's choice and had a preliminary battle, the player leaves for his journey across the region, challenging [[Gym Leaders]] and other {{pkmn|Trainer}}s on their way to the ultimate goal: the [[Pokémon League]] at the [[Indigo Plateau]].

Along the way, the player will meet up with his rival several times, and have multiple run-ins with the insidious [[Team Rocket]], a criminal group that seeks to use Pokémon for their own gain. But who is its leader... and what are his ultimate goals?

==Blurb==
"You've finally been granted your [[Pokémon Trainer]]'s license. Now, it's time to head out to become the world's greatest Pokémon Trainer. It's going to take all you've got to collect {{cat|Generation I Pokémon|150 Pokémon}} in this enormous world. Catch and train monsters like the shockingly-cute {{p|Pikachu}}. Face off against {{p|Blastoise}}'s torrential water cannons. Stand strong when facing {{p|Pidgeot}}'s stormy {{m|Gust}}. [[Trade]] with friends and watch your Pokémon evolve. Important—no single Pokémon can win at all. Can you develop the ultimate Pokémon strategy to defeat the eight [[Gym Leader]]s and become the greatest [[Pokémon Master]] of all time?"

==Connectivity==
Like in Red and Green, players may [[trade]] Pokémon between two cartridges using a [[Game Boy]] [[link cable]]. To take full advantage of this feature, several Pokémon are exclusive to each game of the pair, making it required that a person trade with others in order to complete their [[Pokédex]]. The link cable also makes possible battles with another player, allowing one to pit his or her Pokémon against new challenges.

Trades between Pokémon games in different languages are impossible in this generation, and will always result in corruption if attempted. This is due to the fact that the games cannot automatically translate the Pokémon data, since there is not enough room on either cartridge for all of the text in so many languages (a feature that would [[Generation IV|later become possible]]).

==Features==
===Gyms===
Players are introduced to the first eight Pokémon Gyms, each with their own type affiliation, of the series, led by [[Brock]] ({{t|Rock}}), [[Misty]] ({{t|Water}}), [[Lt. Surge]] ({{t|Electric}}), [[Erika]] ({{t|Grass}}), [[Koga]] ({{t|Poison}}), [[Sabrina]] ({{t|Psychic}}), [[Blaine]] ({{t|Fire}}) and [[Giovanni]] ({{t|Ground}}).

===Elite Four===
The [[Elite Four]] of Kanto are a step above the rest, all located at the [[Indigo Plateau]] and ready to take on all challengers. In order, they are [[Lorelei]] ({{t|Ice}}), [[Bruno]] ({{t|Fighting}}), [[Agatha]] ({{t|Ghost}}) and [[Lance]] ({{t|Dragon}}). The final battle a Trainer has is against the [[Champion]], {{ga|Blue|their rival}}, who has Pokémon of mixed types.

===Pokémon===
Each game contains pre-recorded data on 151 different species of Pokémon, including {{p|Mew}}, a Pokémon unavailable to players of either game under normal conditions. Despite this, not all Pokémon are available to the player, regardless of version; trades must occur between players in order to complete their Pokédex without the use of cheats or glitches. Mew is the only Pokémon in these games that ''must'' be acquired through attending either a Nintendo sponsored event, [[Mew glitch|a glitch]], or [[cheating]].

==[[Version-exclusive Pokémon|Version exclusives]]==
The following Pokémon are only obtainable in one game of this pair. In order to obtain Pokémon exclusive to the other game of this pair, they must be traded either from that game or from another compatible game of [[Generation I]] which has that Pokémon available.
{| align="center"
|- align="center" valign="top"
|
{| align="center" style="background: #{{red color}}; -moz-border-radius: 1em; border: 5px solid #{{red color light}};"
|-
! Red
|- align="center"
|
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #{{red color}}; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- align="center"
{{Moveentrytm|023|Ekans|1|Poison|}}
{{Moveentrytm|024|Arbok|1|Poison|}}
{{Moveentrytm|043|Oddish|2|Grass|Poison}}
{{Moveentrytm|044|Gloom|2|Grass|Poison}}
{{Moveentrytm|045|Vileplume|2|Grass|Poison}}
{{Moveentrytm|056|Mankey|1|Fighting|}}
{{Moveentrytm|057|Primeape|1|Fighting|}}
{{Moveentrytm|058|Growlithe|1|Fire|}}
{{Moveentrytm|059|Arcanine|1|Fire|}}
{{Moveentrytm|123|Scyther|2|Bug|Flying}}
{{Moveentrytm|125|Electabuzz|1|Electric|}}
|}
|}
|
{| align="center" style="background: #{{blue color}}; -moz-border-radius: 1em; border: 5px solid #{{blue color light}};"
|-
! Blue
|- align="center"
|
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #{{blue color}}; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- align="center"
{{Moveentrytm|027|Sandshrew|1|Ground|}}
{{Moveentrytm|028|Sandslash|1|Ground|}}
{{Moveentrytm|037|Vulpix|1|Fire|}}
{{Moveentrytm|038|Ninetales|1|Fire|}}
{{Moveentrytm|052|Meowth|1|Normal|}}
{{Moveentrytm|053|Persian|1|Normal|}}
{{Moveentrytm|069|Bellsprout|2|Grass|Poison}}
{{Moveentrytm|070|Weepinbell|2|Grass|Poison}}
{{Moveentrytm|071|Victreebel|2|Grass|Poison}}
{{Moveentrytm|126|Magmar|1|Fire|}}
{{Moveentrytm|127|Pinsir|1|Bug|}}
|}
|}
|}

==Compatibility==
Red and Blue are compatible with all games from Generations {{gen|I}} and {{gen|II}}, provided the language is the same. [[trade|Trading]] between these games, as well as battling, is allowed. However, it is incompatible with Generations {{gen|III}} and {{gen|IV}}.

==Reception==
The games received positive reviews from the press, receiving a perfect 10/10 from IGN [http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/367023.asp], with Gamespot UK calling them "an excellent RPG for players of all experience levels." [http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/launchreview.asp?reviewid=393714]. The games received an average score of 89% on [http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/367023.asp Game Rankings], the second highest on the site for a [[main series]] Pokémon game, and the 7th best score for a [[Game Boy]] title.

===Criticism===
[[Image:Koffingoldandnew.PNG|thumb|right|{{p|Koffing}}'s Red and Blue sprite ''(left)'' paired with its Diamond and Pearl sprite ''(right)''. Note that the skull and crossbones of the sprite on the left are not placed correctly.]]
While bringing Pokémon to international fame and continuing the legacy of the Japanese Red and Green, Pokémon Red and Blue have been met with much criticism, especially compared to more recent releases in the series. Aside from the number of [[glitch]]es present in the games, many Pokémon look very little like their appearance in the {{pkmn|anime}}, which premiered nearly simultaneous with the games' North American release, or later games, which improved on several other aspects as well as the graphics.

The two games are also notorious for their several drastic glitches, among them the fabled [[Missingno.]], [[Glitch City]], and the [[Mew glitch]]. Despite this, the glitches are arguably minimal points of criticism due to the reward value that comes from their activation, such as the multiplication of a player's sixth item that happens when Missingno. is encountered.

==Trivia==
*On the box art of Red and Blue, at the bottom states "Link with (Red or Blue) version to catch all 150 monsters". This is the first and only time the English version refers Pokémon as "monsters".
*A trademark was filed for "Pokémon WaterBlue Version", indicating that Nintendo possibly considered retaining the North American version renaming for the remakes {{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}}, but ultimately decided against it.
*These two titles along with {{V2|Yellow}} are the only titles to have their mascot's artwork changed from their Japanese counterparts.
*The blurb on the back of the games' boxes state that 139 different Pokémon can be obtained in the game without trading. This, however, includes all Pokémon that the player chooses (i.e. both the {{p|Omanyte}} and {{p|Kabuto}} families are counted). Therefore, the true total of different Pokémon obtainable in one adventure (without trading) is 125.

==In other languages==
* '''French''': ''Version Rouge/Version Bleu''
* '''Spanish''': ''Edición Roja/Edición Azúl''
* '''German''': ''Rot-Edition/Blau-Edition''
* '''Italian''': ''Versione Rosso/Versione Blu''
{{Main series}}
{{Project Games notice}}
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[[Category:Pokémon Red and Blue|*]]

[[de:Pokémon Rot und Blau]]
[[es:Pokémon Rojo y Azul]]
[[fr:Pokémon Rouge et Bleu]]

Talk:List of shippings

2009-10-12T16:04:52Z

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GAH! The formatting was screwed up when the list was updated...anyone able to help out? --[[User:Archaic|Archaic]] 04:58, 27 December 2005 (CST)

==Motion to rename to List of shippers==
===Aye (2)===
* Move will bring it in line with the rest of Bulbapedia. This current title can be a meta-article, about the list itself and its evolution. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 11:52, 6 Aug 2005 (CDT)
*Agreed. No need to retain the current title now. Now that there's actually a real place for it with 'pedia, it needs to become more encyclopedic. --[[User:Archaic|Archaic]] 17:59, 6 Aug 2005 (CDT)
*I would advocate giving shippers a wiki of there own, the pokemon or at least anime variety in particular.[[User:サイコウ天使|「サイコウ天使」(saikou tenshi)]] 5:03AM, 7 Nov 2005 (PDT)

===Nay (0)===
*

==Old==
Awwww bugger. Anyone know how to fix the formatting for this page? It doesn't seem to like me at all. Perhaps it's the page length? Over 43kb. --[[User:Archaic|Archaic]] 02:35, 26 Dec 2004 (GMT)

:Holy crap O_o. I never remember there being this many shipping groups. Is there anything that hasn't been shipped. I think I'm still on the webpage for Chaos Rocket's Pallet Shipping group. And Archaic, try line breaks? --[[User:Tenchi-Oak|Tenchi-Oak]] 09:49, 25 Dec 2004 (EST)

::That's all I had. Zhen's fixed it up for me though, so no more problems. Added a quick navigation to the start. Figured that with the list so long thesedays, it'd help to skip to at least the letters of the alphabet. ^^; --[[User:Archaic|Archaic]] 03:19, 26 Dec 2004 (GMT)

==Suggestions==

In the forum thread for the list, Muka-chan suggested that people add submissions here. So I'll start with one I thought up: FenceShipping, Ash & Misty + Ash & Gary. That is, someone who believes in both PokéShipping and PalletShipping. I used to be one of those poor misguided souls... ^_^ - Ketsuban

Another suggestion from the Ket... SnapShipping should be Ash & Todd. How can it not have a name yet? *is surprised* And of course the Japanese would call it SatoTo'o or To'oSato... Also, RanmaShipping: Todd & Jesse! Because Kappei Yamaguchi is male Ranma, and Megumi Hayashibara is female Ranma! Hahahahahahaha. And shoot, I added these while logged in as Blackjack. *cries* --[[User:Ketsuban|Ketsuban, NOT BLACKJACK]]

Another couple: CloneBitchShipping (Jessibelle and Misty), and CloneBrocketShipping (Jessibelle and Brock). Both of them were blushing when Jessibelle was talking about whipping James... ~Ket again

More suggestions from Ket because she has some ships that need names:

*IllusoryShipping: Brock and Lokoko
*SubmarineShipping: Hokage and Ruby
*KyogreShipping: Wattson and Flannery

Ket, FenceShipping isn't an original name. You're just reinventing one of the names I coined for them back in the old days. =p Half-breed was the term that got general acceptance BTW.
Also....GAH! Some of the names that have been edited and replaced shouldn't have been changed to their dub ones. Those Ships were meant to be specifically for the Japanese version, and not for the dubs.--[[User:Archaic|Archaic]] 10:40, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)

o_O Why the heck would a ship be specifically for the Japanese version? Can the characters not be involved with each other if they are speaking English? -ket

Cases where people feel that the hints weren't carried over to the dub, or where the feeling of the relationship has changed significantly. --[[User:Archaic|Archaic]] 21:59, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Who cares if the hints weren't carried over? Most of the shippers ''I'' know don't care about hints. And just which pairings are you talking about, anyway? -ketz

'nother suggestion: TrickShipping as Tabitha & Shizuku. [[User:Ketsuban|Ketsuban]] 20:47, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

お久しぶりだね、兄弟。The ancient one is right, Half-breeds is indeed the correct term. I'd like to advocate a complete shipper history and, just for the sake of situations such as these, a shipper dictionary of terms. How about it? Marc is already aware of what we'd like to do. And for the love, open the list up to the general public. Are you so afraid of repraisals? I mean, you're going to heavily moderate that one anyway, right, Liam? [[User:サイコウ天使|「サイコウ天使」(Most High Heaven Messenger)]] 5:13AM, 7 Nov 2005 (PDT)

Since when does "Psycho Tenshi" mean "Most High Heaven Messenger"? =p So who are you exactly anyway?
A Shippers glossary would certainly be a helpful addition to 'pedia. You want to write it, go ahead.
And as for opening up the list....no. There's far too many frivolous names on there anyway. The list was never meant to be a name for everything people came up with off the top of their head, only a name for every ship that people had actually actively used in fanfics/fanart/fandom discussions/etc --[[User:Archaic|Archaic]] 07:32, 7 November 2005 (CST)

Since I became a Cleric. >:P There are no kanji in FFXI names（ローマ字だけ）, so I prefer to katakanaize all player character names i mention from it, including my own. This is my own convention because of circumstances. My JP friends usually prefer ro-maji, but this isn't always useful. Especially when we correspond in english, I'll usually katakanaize a person's name being discussed or add a non-romanized honorific suffix so that my friend doesn't get confused. i considered going with 最高 here, but the double entendre was my initial reason for taking this alias in the first place (and a vain hope to avoid overt vanity). If you know who I am, then you'd know that allegory is of my favorites. Ironic, that. sai = most kou = high ten = heaven shi = messenger. If you want to get literal, Supreme Angel. In angelology, this would be Seraphim or Archangels. Michael and Gabriel are said to be part of this order, but then again so is The Deciever of the Entire World. To quote Raogrimm, we have the potential to be either that greater good or greater evil.

Forgive me for babbling. I don't know if I will take up these tasks. The matters of the true world are more pressing at this time. I have a role to play which supercedes games and forums, and is in fact a matter of life and death. If you want to go off topic, I believe you know my email.

And for the sake of my sentimental heart... ReunionShipper, please!
「出逢いと同じ数別れがあるのなら
ふたたび会える日を僕らは信じよう」

--[[User:サイコウ天使|「サイコウ天使」(Crazy Angel)]] 7:06PM, 7 November 2005 (PST)

* Additions: GymcestShipper - May/Max/Caroline/Norman
* HottieShipper - Ash/Daisy/Violet/Lily
* CascadeShipper - Ash/Misty/Daisy/Violet/Lily
* AbilityShipper - Ash/Anabel
* PsydragonShipper - Latias/Latios/Bianca
* SquintShipper - Brock/Lucy
* ThreewayShipper - Norman/Caroline/Petalburg City's Nurse Joy

Hey! I got a good one!

IceBeamShipping - Paul's Weavile & Dawn's Buneary

This shipping's starting to become infamous since I put up a Pokemon/BW crossover on DeviantArt. Whaddya think? --[[User:Paul'sDialga]] 8:15 PM; 9/24/08

==Um...==
Why is this protected? I wanted to move this to [[List of shippers]], as the current name is unencyclopedic. — [[User:Jellochuu|Jellochuu]][[User talk:Jellochuu|¾]] 22:37, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)

:Because the (In)Complete List of Shippers is less an article made specifically for Bulbagarden, and more an article hosted by Bulbagarden. Treat it like you'd treat a game walkthrough that the creator would allow to be posted as long as it wasn't edited.
The real reason it was protected though however was so that the Shippers Community could have more control over what names are accepted as being the "official" ship names, preventing edit-wars.--[[User:Archaic|Archaic]] 09:32, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I would like to join! May I? How do I?--[[User:Paul'sDialga|Paul'sDialga]]

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>* SahaShipper - A flaming, militant supporter of Advanceshipping
Why is that listed under Ships Involving Real People? They're not paired with anyone...

While I would assume that person meant it as a ship between a person and their own ship, you're right, it should be under the main list as an alternate name, like GakiShipping.--[[User:Archaic|Archaic]] 10:40, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)

==Flamebait Ships==
What the hell is this? "UrineShipper - Ledian_X & his toilet " Who made it? I never heard of it. Tempted to edit it out.[[User:LedianX|LedianX]] 17:12, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)

:I don't know who added that Ship, or several others like it, but I know they weren't there when I last did a full update, which means it's one of you guys who's put it in. Unless there's a *very* good historical reason to include ships like this (And in which case, it should have the historical context mentioned in a note on the list itself), it should never have been approved for addition to the list in the first place. This is disgraceful. --[[User:Archaic|Archaic]] 23:27, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)

>Should there even be ships listed in there that don't involve Pokemon characters at all? I mean, I know some of it's kitchy fandom, but where do you draw the line? Should the site cover ships that are only vaugely related to Pokemon through tenuous links via real people and unrelated other people and objects? I propose that if we DO keep the ships that have nothing to do with Pokemon and characters besides links to people who are fans of Pokemon - that they at least be regulated to a page on their own. I just don't think someone who goes "OMG! Damian and Mozz need to do eachother!" or "Rachil Lils would totally go for the Japanese voice actor of Kasumi!" deserves their own sections of the Bulbapedia, since it's not really related to Pokemon except in aroundabout way.

- Zeta

I don't think that any ships that don't involve Pokémon characters should be listed on the site. It's completely unprofessional and has nothing to do with the franchise. I mean, ships involving members of the fandom are bad enough, but why are completely unrelated pairings, like Inuyasha/Jakotsu, listed? That needs to be on an Inuyasha site, ''not'' a Pokémon encyclopedia. If you ''must'' have ships involving members of the fandom, at least put them on a separate page in the People category so that people looking for actual character ships aren't forced to dig through that other garbage. Sorry for my harsh words, but I am honestly getting fed up with the amount of non-Pokémon/unimportant fandom content going into this encyclopedia. -[[User:Argy|Argy]]

==Misspellings==
*jesse (jessie)
*nidoran(f) (nidoran♀)
*nidoran(m) (nidoran♂)
*pokemon (pokémon)
*seperated (separated)
- [[User:Jshadias|Jshadias]] 05:07, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

== Urineshipping ==

may i ask what is Urineshipping

Please read the relevant discussion above, or speak to the participants in it. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 08:24, 12 May 2005 (UTC)

==Thing==

I made a [[Template:NCS|template]] that I thought might be useful for certain articles after Meowth brought up the fact that one of the shipping articles I'd made might be offensive to some. I considered applying it to the list article, but since it's protected I figured I should ask what everyone else thinks first. [[User:Ketsuban|Ketsuban]] 19:02, 12 May 2005 (UTC)

:Go ahead and add it. There's quite a lot of offensive names on there.
:While we're at it....we really need to update this list again. --[[User:Archaic|Archaic]] 09:42, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== Yoshi/Dani/Jackson ==

These need to be updated to Jimmy, Marina, and Jackson/Vincent. [[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] 14:51, 8 November 2005 (CST)

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I notice this page is very long but doesn't have a few ships, especially with the DP characters. I guess there's not a big following now in America, but in Japan they're everywhere. So that might be part of the problem, because there might not be an American name yet.

I also wondered, maybe we could organize the article into more common ships (PokéShipping, Palletshipping, etc) and the ones that are just... really, really obscure. There might also need to be a section for ships that are a little bit more... you know, PG-13, and we could move the warning at the top to just that article (anything with incest, urine, etc...)

Anyway, here's a list of ships that I think need to be added:
* Ash x Dawn
* Paul x Dawn
* Silver x Jasmine
* Lucas x Cynthia
* Roark x Gardenia
* Volkner x Jasmine
* Volkner x Roark
* Morty x Falkner
* Lucian x Aaron
* Flint x Lucian (usually unrequitted)
* Silver x Gold -- I think "Silver" is currently listed as "Black" for some reason
* Gold x Red
*etc Unsigned comment by {{u|Greengiant}}

:The problem is that, while Luna Tiger maintains the list on BMGf, no one has updated this version of the list for over a year. That means that any ships created since then, including all the DP ships, are not reflected in it. I am a bit busy with real life at the moment but I will take a look at it on Sunday if no one updates it before then. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 18:19, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

::The ''big'' problem is that our shipping section is ''extremely'' neglected now that it's in a separate namespace. I don't even want to touch some of those articles because they're disgustingly bad. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] ~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]] 19:31, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

:::Well, that's more of an overall thing. This list can be dealt with easier. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 00:33, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

I'm starting the update now. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 16:03, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
And I'm done. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 17:56, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

I wanted to add an {{oversized article notice}} to this page (because in all honesty folks, it is) but it seems that I'm too low on the ladder to edit this particular page... [[User:Manga-in-a-bottle|Manga-in-a-bottle]]

Much agreed on the above statement of including Silver x Jasmine. --[[User:Crazy Packers Fan|Crazy Packers Fan]] 01:40, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

== Crossovers? ==

Can this page include crossover shippings? Like, say, for example someone from Pokémon and someone from Digimon? Just wondering (even though i do support a '''crack''' Pokémon/Naruto shipping xD) [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 12:45, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

:We already have a section on the page called "Crossover/Non-Pokémon Ships". They include crossover ships, including some involving the main characters of two different shows. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 17:51, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

== Dawn/Jun? ==

Please forgive me if this isn't the place to ask, I honestly don't know where to go to ask. >_> I was just wondering if a shipping for Dawn/Jun or Platina/Pearl had been created yet? ....Thanks.... [[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]] 20:59, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

:Dawn/Jun = TwinLeafShipping. No idea for Platina/Pearl. I was going to make TwinLeafShipping after the next anime episode.....'''[[Pachirisu (Pokémon)|パチリス]][[User:Pachirisulover12|の恋人]][[User talk:Pachirisulover12|12]]''' 21:50, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Oh, okay. Thank you for the answer. ..And what do you mean by 'make', do you mean a shipping article? Sorry if I come off as clueless... [[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]] 01:04, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

:Yes. And it's alright being clueless. '''[[Pachirisu (Pokémon)|パチリス]][[User:Pachirisulover12|の恋人]][[User talk:Pachirisulover12|12]]''' 19:59, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

::For the record, Pearl/Platina is Haughtyshipping. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 21:50, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

==Pokémon Ranger==

Does anyone know the Shipping names for

*[[Kellyn]] & [[Kate (Ranger)|Kate]]
*[[Keith (Ranger)|Keith]] & Kate

please tell me!- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Madch94|Madch94]] ([[User talk:Madch94|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Madch94|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''

:Almiashipping is Kellyn and Kate, and Keith/Kate is nameless. By the way, don't "correct" timestamps. It makes people mad. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 22:27, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

::Oh, sorry! And thank you! [[User:Madch94|Madch94]] 12:01, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

== Shipping ==

These are some ships there should be:
Poemshipping - Gary and Dawn
Shortshipping - (hahaha) Gary and professer Oak.
BTW, what are the LINKS for Gary and Umbreon, Gary and Paul, and Gary and Morty? THANKS!
Yeah. I am a palletshipper. Duh. I also don't think homosexuality is wrong. My sister is lesbian, and she's had boy and girl relashionships romantically. Peace love palletshipping - garyplusash
:Gary/Dawn is Cavaliershipping (which we have an article on) and Oak/Gary is already Grandson or Grandpashipping. Gary/Umbreon is Darkshipping, Gary/Paul is Darkstreakshipping, and Gary/Morty is Darkpactshipping. ...Theme'd? Course not. And you should ALWAYS sign your comments with the four tildes <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>, and not just type out your username. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 02:17, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

== Um ==

Why are we listing ships that aren't even Pokémon related? --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 06:11, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
:Because they proceed the eventual Pokémon-only case. We keep them because, once upon a time, they were still once apart of the list, and if they aren't there, they aren't anywhere else. Not an issue. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 10:27, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

== Links? ==

I'm going to go ahead and sift through the list and add links to the shipping pages. I can't be the only one who'd like to know what shipping pages we have or don't have. I'm just wondering, do I link to the 'Warning, this page contains....' page or to the actual ship page? -[[User:Smeargle|Smeargle]] 16:05, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

:Actually, if your goal is to link ''all'' of the ships on the page, you're best off holding off, lest you want {{u|Kenji-girl}} reverting you in fury. For starters, only a small handful of ships are notable for articles--I highly doubt a "Brock'sWoodenSausageShipping" (a Sudowoodo and the wooden sausage Brock carved up back in Johto) article would last long. Additionally, this list is horribly out of date, as it's accurate only to May 22, 200'''7''', more than two years ago. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 16:23, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
::I think he means adding the articles we already have to the list, and no so much making with the vagrant redlinks everywhere. Except the page is protected, and when it is updated, the process will have to be done all over again, with the relinking. It's not worth the effort. If they want to know what 'ships we have articles on, the easiest was would just be to go to {{cat|Shipping}}. ...Not that that helps identify which is which without clicking elsewhere. Hmmm. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 16:32, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

== TOC ==

I suggest that this page use something like this: (hidden). It's a bit better to look at. [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 16:39, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

== Name ==
What's the name for Bill/Daisy? Lunick v sonela 12:50, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
:Teashipping. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 16:30, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

== Gary and... ==

What are the ships for:
Gary and may
Gary and max
Gary and Dora
Gary and Crystal
Thanks!
[[User:Garyplusash|Garyplusash]] 18:06, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
peace love palletshipping-
garyplusash
: Brunettshipping, Knowitallshipping, LabCoatshipping, and nameless. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 17:10, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

== Dawn and may? ==

what's the ship name?
[[User:Garyplusash|Garyplusash]] 18:40, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
You know who I am, and you know i support palletshipping. what's the point.
:[[Shipping:SapphirePearlShipping]]. Not that I'd know much about shipping, but I just checked the [[:Category:Ships with May]] and it was IMO the most obvious one. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 18:45, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

== Didn't there used to be... ==

Didn't there used to be a thingy on the bottom of list of shippers that had a list of ships between pokemon characters and non-pokemon characters? What happened to it? * [[User:Garyplusash|Garyplusash]] 21:01, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
:That section was removed in the most recent edit, which also removed a section with a list of ships involving fandom members. Ask {{u|evkl|<strike>our resident Power Nazi</strike> evkl}} if you want to talk about that purge. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 22:16, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
::It was deleted due to its unnecessary inclusion (it does exist elsewhere, just not on the 'Pedia). I also asked him to remove it. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 05:31, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

==Berlitz==

Can we change the Berlitz to Platina instead? [[User:Mooites|Mooites]] 21:49, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
:When this version is updated, it will be so. In the mean time, making due is fine. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 05:31, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

==Just wanna ask==
Also the shipping name for GoldxSoul and SoulxSilver? Also LeafxSoul and CrystalxMisty (Special)?

I found these Shipping names, which are now recognized by fans. I hope they can be added.

*AniseShipping-SoulxMisty (Game)
*NobleLadyShipping-Erika, Misty & Platinum (Pokemon Special)
*NaiadShipping-SapphirexMisty (Pokemon Special)
*BlueGemShipping- SapphirexCrystal (Pokemon Special)
*PokegoShipping - Ash, Misty & Gary {{unsigned|Mikanlamperouge}}

:Anise, NobleLady, and PokeEgo are already recognized. Sapphire/Crystal, however, is called TreeStars (so cannot be BlueGem), and Naiad is used for Brendan/Gary. Which only leaves Sapphire/Misty officially nameless. But if you found them, please show me where you did. And please sign your name for ever talk page comment you make. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 12:26, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

::Naiad is Brendan/Gary...? Looks like I miss that part. Well, you learn something everyday. I would suggest RemakeShipping for LeafxSoul. I don't know about GoldxSoul and CrystalxMisty though... [[User:Jczala|Jczala]] 16:56, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
:::Gold/Soul is InfluenceShipping and Leaf/Soul is SweetNaturedShipping. Silver/Soul /should/ have one somewhere. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 18:26, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

== Rald X Crys ==

What is it?Lunick v sonela 18:58, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

OMG! This ship does not exeist. Does anyone know how to make a ship?Lunick v sonela 18:58, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
:You think of a name that isn't in use, meaning it's not the name of any other 'ship, and then submit it to me. =) [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 19:22, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
:: WalkaboutShipping.Lunick v sonela 15:53, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

== Darach X Catlin ==

What is it?Lunick v sonela 18:56, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
:Valetshipping. If you have any name queries, please look [http://www.freewebs.com/incompletelove/ here] if you cannot find them here, and if you cannot find them there, then please ask here, though we will probbaly not know anyway. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 21:22, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

== Kotone/Ash ==

In Bulbagarden Forums is posted a Showthread that is about the "PokeSilverShipping" (Kotone & Ash). That needs to be added. --[[User:Poke nav|Po]][[User talk:Poke nav|ké]][[Special:Contributions/Poke nav|nav]]. [[User:Poke nav/Glitch|Is]] [[User:Poke nav/User Boxes|a]] [[User:Poke nav/Histories|glitch]] [[User:Poke nav/Manga|master!]] 16:04, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

User:Poke nav/Templates/VS

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Poke nav:

{| align="center" style="background-color:{{{colorofoponent}}} border: 4px solid #FFFFFF;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|-
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! rowspan="3" style="background:#{{{colorofopponent|}}}; -moz-border-radius-topright: 5px; -moz-border-radius-bottomright: 5px;" | {{{opponent}}} {{{fileopponent}}}
|}

User:Poke nav/Templates/VS/League

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Poke nav:

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! rowspan="3" style="background:#{{{{{typeofopponent}}} color}}; -moz-border-radius-topright: 5px; -moz-border-radius-bottomright: 5px;" | {{{fileopponent}}} {{{opponent}}}
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Poke nav:

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caption=Invisible shiny Bulbasaur |
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typen=1 |
type1=None |
Versions={{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}} |
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'''Invisible {{shiny2}} {{p|Bulbasaur}}''' is a [[glitch Pokémon]] found in {{game2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}. It is usually encountered with the use of an [[Action Replay]]. Generally, it is found when using a "walk through walls" code or a similar cheat. Invisible shiny Bulbasaur is often found in [[Oreburgh Mine]], {{si|Victory Road}}, or a wild double battle triggered by a "walk over water" [[Cheating|cheat code]]. The name "Invisible shiny Bulbasaur" is derived from the fact that at the start of a battle it sparkles like a shiny Pokémon and Bulbasaur's cry is heard, suggesting that it is a shiny Bulbasaur.

Invisible shiny Bulbasaur always appears at Level 0 with 0/0 HP, similar to [[Ten question marks|??????????]] in [[Generation III]]. Its name appears as "dl dl..." appearing several times; a message displaying its name will have a glitched transition into the next message. It does not appear to have any usable attacks — in double battles, the only attack it can use is Struggle. It is apparently invisible, although it may have a sprite resembling [[DPBox]]'s (when it uses Struggle in a double battle, or when its animation occurs when it enters battle, the bottom of a sprite resembling DPBox's is visible at the top of the screen).

If the player attempts to attack it, the game will assume there is no target and end the battle immediately. Sometimes, it cannot be directly attacked at all and the player must use an attack that affects both enemies. When selecting an enemy to attack, the button on the touch screen representing the Invisible shiny Bulbasaur has no sprite or name. An Invisible shiny Bulbasaur's shadow cannot be seen under it. Instead, the shadow is found beside the real Pokémon.

==Encountering Invisible shiny Bulbasaur==

By using the [[Cheating|walk through walls]] code to walk over water, the player can trigger a {{pkmn2|wild}} [[double battle]] with an Invisible shiny Bulbasaur and a real Pokémon. The game, thinking that the player is traveling with a partner, will display two of the player's back sprite, one being the player and the "clone" being the nonexistent partner. The partner, whose name is either nothing more than a blank space or the player's name (saying "Pokémon Trainer ___ sent out..."), will send out a [[DPBox]]. If the DPBox faints, the Invisible shiny Bulbasaur will consequently faint as well. If the player does not run, then after both real Pokémon have taken their turns, one of the glitches will attack the other with {{m|Struggle}}, causing both to faint (one from damage, the other from recoil).

Another way to encounter Invisible shiny Bulbasaur is by using the "walk through walls" cheat to leave [[Amity Square]]. Because of the [[walking Pokémon]] in Amity Square, the game will assume that the player is traveling with a partner, even after leaving. When entering a battle with a wild Pokémon after leaving Amity Square, the last [[Stat trainers|trainer]] the player partnered with will appear beside the player, but they will use either an Invisible shiny Bulbasaur or a DPBox. The battle will be against one real wild Pokémon and an Invisible shiny Bulbasaur.

Finally, it is also possible to obtain Invisible shiny Bulbasaur by using the [[Cheating|instant egg]] code when two Pokémon are not in the daycare and then using the [[Cheating|hatch eggs fast]] code to hatch an otherwise unhatchable egg. However, this often results in freezing the game.

In some rare cases, an Action Replay code input wrongly may cause a permanent {{pkmn2|roaming}} Invisible shiny Bulbasaur to appear.

Interestingly, in a wild double battle, Invisible shiny Bulbasaur copies its partner's Speed stat and replaces all participating Pokémon's cries (including DPBox's) with a Bulbasaur's cry. After each attack animation, its HP counter disappears.

Invisible shiny Bulbasaur is essentially a {{wp|Null (computer programming)|null}}, which happens when an empty space in the party is called to battle, which is why the game doesn't read it as a real target.
==Game data ==
=== Game locations ===
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===Base Stats===
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Flying= 100 |
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Ground= 100 |
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Poison= 100 |
Ghost= 100 |
Fire= 100 |
Water= 100 |
Grass= 100 |
Electric=100 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 100 |
Dragon= 100 |
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== Names ==

How'd you get the titles? Do you want me to handle the titles? [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 22:27, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
:No thanks, I go it handled and I got it off the "List of rounds in the thrid chapter of PokéSpe". --[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 22:31, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

== Help please ==

I do not have an account on the forums, and cannot find a trade request subforum on them to boot.

Would you be able to help me with the trade, please?[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 02:56, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

:Trade what? --[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 02:58, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
::A male Glameow. ID: 0388 7088 4255 (Lucas)[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 02:59, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
:::But I'm kinda busy right now maybe tomorrow. --[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 03:06, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
::I need it within the next twenty minutes or not at all, so I guess never mind, and thank you for your time.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 03:08, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

== Technical User page diffuculties... ==

I was moving my usertags to a subpage in my userspace... but... when I copy-pasted them into the subpage... they came out wrong and code-ish. Help? (I'm going to the mainspace now) --[[User:CuboneKing|CUBONE PWNS]] ([[User talk:CuboneKing|Planet Cubone]] • [[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|Bone Club]]) [[Cubone (Pokémon)|THE VERY BEST PAGE!]] 04:07, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
:Add subst: after the {{ and before the u in your tags and see what happens. That should fix the issues... I hope.--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[User talk:RexRacer|Racer''']] 04:14, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
::That'll be hard... especially because I directly copied the code from the template page. (Hey, I was new to being helpful to wikis) --[[User:CuboneKing|CUBONE PWNS]] ([[User talk:CuboneKing|Planet Cubone]] • [[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|Bone Club]]) [[Cubone (Pokémon)|THE VERY BEST PAGE!]] 04:22, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Well, there's one thing you did wrong... you copied the code from the template page. Never do that. Always add <nowiki>{{User <subject>}}</nowiki>. For example <nowiki>{{User Male}}</nowiki>.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 04:53, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Scratch that. I see what you mean now...--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 04:55, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
::::Sorry, I was gone. But I hope these guys had helped you with your problem. --[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 05:01, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

== deleting?? ==

you have recently sent me a message saying that i cannot have more than 2 personal images. i uploaded 3. how do i delete an image from the archives?--[[User:Usyflad10|Usyflad]][[User talk:Usyflad10|10]] 02:22, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
:...I just told you on your talk page. --[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 02:23, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
:: yeah, sorry. dont mind this. at all. --[[User:Usyflad10|Usyflad]][[User talk:Usyflad10|10]] 02:24, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

== Hit me up ==

Hey, want to talk to you about something whenever you get the chance--but not on the talk page. IM me whenever you see me on (even if I'm away, I'm usually actually around.) -- '''[[User:evkl|evkl]]''' [[User_talk:evkl|(need to talk?)]] 03:32, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
:Hm? Well okay. --[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 04:07, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

== Special ==

Does "Pokémon Special" need to be in italics? --[[User:CuboneKing|CUBONE]] ([[User talk:CuboneKing|Planet Cubone]] • [[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|Bone Club]]) [[Cubone (Pokémon)|PWNS]] 19:43, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
:Yes, it does since it's the title{{tt|.|Unless an admi says otherwise.}} --[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 19:57, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

== Stuff ==

Okay can you add me to the page with all the users? TOTODILE!!!!!!!!! FTW...also can I join project Manga? i have some stuff to add to the pokemon diamond and pearl [[User:Totojo158|''toto'']][[User talk:Totojo158|Rulz]]''' 14:58, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
:Anyone can join the project just write your User name on the bottom of the list. --[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 20:18, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

== Nice signature ==

How do you get Japanese characters? [[User:Tommy-SAN|TOMMY-SAN *(MyTalk)*]] 19:25, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
:You kinda have to specific. One way to get them are some the Japanese websites on what you are looking for... --[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 19:26, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

TESTING MY SIGNATURE ON MY TALK PAGE! [[User:Tommy-SAN|TOMMY-SAN *(MyTalk)*]] 20:37, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

* Sorry i couldn't get back to you, but how do i archive my talk page? Please write back. * --[[User:Tommy-SAN|'''T☆MMY''']][[User talk:Tommy-SAN|'''SAN!''']][[Special:Contributions/Tommy-SAN|'''♂''']] 3:03 PM September 14, 2009 (UTC)
: Just move to {{red link|User talk:Tommy-SAN/Archive (Number)}} --[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 22:20, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

== Treasure Chest ==

...and you open the treasure chest to find, whats this? Some new tools at your disposal? Excellent. But remember, use them with responsibility, and use them wisely. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 06:15, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
:It's about damn time. Congratulations! You earned it. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 06:20, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
::<s>I'm a bit confused.</s> I'll sign on AIM{{tt|.|Thanks!}} --[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 02:43, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
:::Congrats. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 02:06, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Thanks{{tt|.|:D}} --[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 02:08, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

== Phantom Thief! Pokémon 7 Article ==

For the Phantom Thief! Pokémon 7 Article, should I use PTP701?

[[User:Kingofun|Kingofun]] 15:02, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

:I'm not the final say, but I'd actually suggest something more along the lines of "PTP7-01". "PTP701" might make it look like the 701st chapter of a manga with a "PTP" epicode as opposed to the first chapter of a manga with a "PTP7" epicode. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 15:48, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
::I'd go with P7-01, but this is not my final decision. --[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 20:48, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
:::CP's idea seems best, to me. PTP7-01 is just too long. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 21:05, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

== Hey I got a little idea for you. ==

With the movie redirects you can put "Arceus Movie" or "Shaymin Movie". Just with the main Pokémon. Or you've done this already? Just a little idea.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 02:10, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
:Seems like a good-ish idea, but I'd go ask {{u|Kenji-girl}} for a second opinion since she is in charge of the anime project. --[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 02:13, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
::Alright!--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 02:14, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
:::I've started... [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 02:14, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
::::That's cool, thank's.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 02:16, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::You go finish it, Midnight Blue. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 02:20, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::The rest of the movies? OK I'll try.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 02:21, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
:Okay, let's end this now. This is just going no where now. --[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 02:21, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Ok, what did Kenji-girl say?--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 02:26, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
::I haven't ask her you ahould since it's your idea. I have go do something. --[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 02:26, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
:::Alright.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 02:27, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

== Here. ==

{{color|{{gold color}}|★}}{{color|{{silver color}}|★}}

For finding those. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:25, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
:Awesome Gold ''and'' Silver stars{{tt|.|:D}} --[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 04:26, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
::I shall borrow, k? [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 22:23, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
:::Sure, why not --[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 22:28, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
::::Thanks! :) [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']]★ 22:30, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

== Help suggesting something to improve all Pokémon pages? ==

Um, I was wondering if there was any to suggest maybe to place the correct pronunciation of each Pokémon's name on their page, using tools such as enPR [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:American_Heritage_Dictionary_representation], IPA[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Phonetic_Alphabet], SAMPA [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAMPA], or any other method of conveying pronunciation. I know many times I've heard people pronounce a name wrong or the name doesn't phonetically represent the way its spelled and it would always be nice to have up for reference. I'd totally be up for helping construct the way it would be done or helping contribute to it by using my knowledge of the three systems I listed to transcribe names. This could even be used for other things, like town/city names, etc. Just, let me know if you think it'd be a good idea to suggest this, and if so, where I would go about these means. - [[User:JWhitt|J]][[User_talk:JWhitt|Whitt]] 06:02, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
:Well, thank you for your concern on the pronunciations for Pokémon and the cities. But, this issue has been and was done before. Then later on they were removed from the pages due to the media having different ways to pronunce them so it was all a hassle and decided to remove them so it is currently removed from the pages. Thank you your consern and time on this issue. --[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 06:11, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
::I see. Makes sense. Thanks for taking the time to read it out, though, lol. - [[User:JWhitt|J]][[User_talk:JWhitt|Whitt]] 06:13, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
:::Hahah, no problem. --[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 06:14, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

== help? ==

I would like to start a article of a tv channel for Project TV and would like to start.Where would i be able to start it without actually having it online and viewable by everyone.Thanks--[[User:Solidstate|Solid!]] 08:05, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
:Taken care of, CP. Go back to sleep. Or school. Or whatever it is you do when you don't show your face here. ;) —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 11:26, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
::It's called sleep Trommie :p. And thanks for taking care of it. --[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 22:47, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

== Hey Mr. Manga ==

Do you want this picture of Misty in her Special section.

[[File:Misty-in-Pokemon-Special.png|200px]]

The user claims this is their vector rendering of Misty in the Special manga. Truthfully, I don't prefer it. It looks too fanart-ish and it doesn't match the other pictures that you uploaded of the Gym Leaders in the manga.

So what do you think? This is your department. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 20:49, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
:I agree with you, it looks too much like fanart to have it on the manga section of Misty's page. Unless [[Mato]] had released actual art of her, before she left of her disease, we are just gonna have to settle for what we have. --[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 22:51, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

== Sorry ==

Hey :)
Thank you for showing me my mistakes. I'm new here and so I didn't know if I really could leave the fields blank, because it looked somehow odd. [[User:Celesterine|Celesterine]] 08:47, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
:No problem. --[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 19:53, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

== Manga Images ==

See [[Mitsumi]] as an example. About half the page is filled with images, and the captions are too short to fully fill up the big boxes... true, there can be change in px, but there should be a limit of how large the images are. Maybe follow the image concept like the anime, or even Special. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']]★ 21:35, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
:Yes that ''is'' an issue and there should be a size limit though. But Special doesn't even have a "size" limit to its images. --[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 21:36, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
::I'll agree... however, the images are at least more reasonable than the ones with [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Adventure!|Pokémon DP]]... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 21:38, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

== DUDE! ==

Update your Mystery Dungeon custom sprites to HGSS sprites...or someone else will do it.--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 21:46, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
:Hm... You could of IM-ed me that and I have school no time for that until the weekend.--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 22:36, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

== Oh-no! (tears in his eyes.) ==

I guess I got Rick rolled! --[[User:Pokelover195|Pokelover195]] 23:10, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

:Dude, don't be going spamming on people's pages and make some main space edits. --[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 23:12, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
::You can delete spam if you'd like. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 23:16, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Oops! Sorry about that! But I still got Rickrolled! --[[User:Pokelover195|Pokelover195]] 23:20, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

== Hey! ==

I also love Dahlia. And also I'm a NATIVE SPEAKER OF SPANISH! You are from Guatemala? Well, that doesn't worry. Well, Bye /Adiós\--[[User:Poke nav|Po]][[User talk:Poke nav|ké]][[Special:Contributions/Poke nav|nav]]. [[User:Poke nav/Glitch|Is]] [[User:Poke nav/User Boxes|a]] [[User:Poke nav/Histories|glitch]] [[User:Poke nav/Manga|master!]] 02:10, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

Morty

2009-10-10T15:37:47Z

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{{CharacterInfobox|
name=Morty |
jname=マツバ |
tmname=Matsuba |
slogan=yes |
sloganline="The Mystic Seer of the Future" |
image=[[File:HGSS_Morty_Art.png|200px]] |
caption=Art from HeartGold and SoulSilver |
gender=Male |
colors=yes |
eyes=Brown{{tt|*|Generation II and anime}}, Purple{{tt|*|Generation IV}} |
hair=Blond|
hometown=[[Ecruteak City]] |
region=[[Johto]] |
relatives=Unknown |
trainer=yes |
trainerclass=[[Gym Leader]] |
numpkmncaught=Varies with canon |
game=yes |
generation={{Gen|II}}, {{Gen|IV}} |
games={{3v2|Gold|Silver|Crystal}}, [[Pokémon Stadium 2|Stadium 2]], [[Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions|HeartGold, SoulSilver]] |
leader=yes |
gym=Ecruteak Gym |
type=[[Ghost (type)|Ghost]] |
badge=Fog Badge |
elite=no |
team=no |
brain=no |
anime=yes |
epnum=EP181 |
epname=A Ghost of a Chance |
enva=[[Andrew Rannells]] |
java=Masaya Matsukaze |
}}

'''Morty''' (Japanese: '''マツバ''' ''Matsuba'') is the [[Gym Leader]] of [[Ecruteak City]]'s [[Gym]], known officially as the [[Ecruteak Gym]]. He hands out the {{Badge|Fog}} to {{pkmn|Trainer}}s who defeat him. He is a young man who uses {{type2|Ghost}} [[Pokémon]].

==In the games==
[[Image:Morty.jpg|140px|thumb|left|Headshot of Morty from {{game|Gold and Silver|s}}]]
Morty's title is "The Mystic Seer of the Future".

The body of Morty's gym is a dark pit. Trainers appear to float over it, standing on an invisible floor. Some trainers are scared away by the ghosts within the gym. A challenger able to navigate along the invisible floor can safely reach Morty and challenge him.

Trainers in his gym: Sage Ping, Medium Grace, Sage Jeffrey, Medium Martha.

In addition to the Fog Badge, Morty gives out {{TM|30|Shadow Ball}}.

In {{game|Crystal}}, Morty joins [[Eusine]] in the [[Burned Tower]], to study what are said to be legendary Pokémon: {{p|Suicune}}, {{p|Entei}}, and {{p|Raikou}}.

In {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}. To be able to rebattle him, The Player will have to go to the [[Tin Tower]] on Tuesday Night. He is standing outside within the golden forest. Talk to him and he'll register to player's [[PokéGear]]. Then, on Tuesday Night, he can be called to arrange a rematch<ref>http://www.serebii.net/heartgoldsoulsilver/gym-rematch.shtml</ref>

===Pokémon===
This listing is of Morty's Pokémon in the video games he has appeared in.

===={{game2|Gold|Silver|Crystal}}====
{{Party
|color={{ghost color}}
|headcolor={{ghost color light}}
|bordercolor={{ghost color dark}}
|sprite=SpriteMorty.gif
|prize={{pdollar}}2300
|class=[[Leader]]
|name=Morty
|game={{game2|Gold|Silver|Crystal}}
|location=[[Ecruteak Gym]]
|pokemon=4

|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=2
|game=Gold
|ndex=092
|pokemon=Gastly
|gender=male
|level=21
|type1=Ghost
|type2=Poison
|move1=Lick
|move1type=Ghost
|move2=Spite
|move2type=Ghost
|move3=Mean Look
|move3type=Normal
|move4=Curse
|move4type=???}}

|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=2
|game=Gold
|ndex=093
|pokemon=Haunter
|gender=male
|level=21
|type1=Ghost
|type2=Poison
|move1=Hypnosis
|move1type=Psychic
|move2=Curse
|move2type=???
|move3=Mimic
|move3type=Normal
|move4=Night Shade
|move4type=Ghost}}

|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=2
|game=Gold
|ndex=093
|pokemon=Haunter
|gender=male
|level=23
|type1=Ghost
|type2=Poison
|move1=Spite
|move1type=Ghost
|move2=Mean Look
|move2type=Normal
|move3=Mimic
|move3type=Normal
|move4=Night Shade
|move4type=Ghost}}

|pokemon4={{Pokémon
|gen=2
|game=Gold
|ndex=094
|pokemon=Gengar
|gender=male
|level=25
|type1=Ghost
|type2=Poison
|move1=Hypnosis
|move1type=Psychic
|move2=Mean Look
|move2type=Normal
|move3=Shadow Ball
|move3type=Ghost
|move4=Dream Eater
|move4type=Psychic}}
}}

===={{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}====
=====Gym match=====

{{Party|color={{ghost color}}|headcolor={{ghost color light}}|bordercolor={{ghost color dark}}
|sprite=MortyHGSS.png
|prize={{pdollar}}2760
|class=[[Leader]]
|name=Morty
|game={{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}
|location=[[Ecruteak Gym]]
|pokemon=4
|pokemon1={{Pokémon|gen=4|game=HeartGold and SoulSilver|ndex=092|pokemon=Gastly
|gender=male|level=21|type1=Ghost|type2=Poison|ability=Levitate
|move1=Lick|move1type=Ghost|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Spite|move2type=Ghost|move2cat=Status
|move3=Mean Look|move3type=Normal|move3cat=Status
|move4=Curse|move4type=???|move4cat=Status}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon|gen=4|game=HeartGold and SoulSilver|ndex=093|pokemon=Haunter
|gender=male|level=21|type1=Ghost|type2=Poison|ability=Levitate
|move1=Hypnosis|move1type=Psychic|move1cat=Status
|move2=Dream Eater|move2type=Psychic|move2cat=Special
|move3=Curse|move3type=???|move3cat=Status
|move4=Nightmare|move4type=Ghost|move4cat=Status}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon|gen=4|game=HeartGold and SoulSilver|ndex=093|pokemon=Haunter
|gender=male|level=23|type1=Ghost|type2=Poison|ability=Levitate
|move1=Curse|move1type=???|move1cat=Status
|move2=Mean Look|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status
|move3=Sucker Punch|move3type=Dark|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Night Shade|move4type=Ghost|move4cat=Special}}
|pokemon4={{Pokémon|gen=4|game=HeartGold and SoulSilver|ndex=094|pokemon=Gengar
|gender=male|level=25|type1=Ghost|type2=Poison|ability=Levitate
|move1=Hypnosis|move1type=Psychic|move1cat=Status
|move2=Shadow Ball|move2type=Ghost|move2cat=Special
|move3=Mean Look|move3type=Normal|move3cat=Status
|move4=Sucker Punch|move4type=Dark|move4cat=Physical|held=Sitrus Berry}}}}

=====Second battle (rematch)=====
{{Party
|color={{ghost color}}
|headcolor={{ghost color light}}
|bordercolor={{ghost color dark}}
|sprite=MortyHGSS.gif
|prize={{pdollar}}6840
|class=[[Leader]]
|name=Morty
|game={{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}
|location=[[Fighting Dojo]]
|pokemon=6

|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Platinum
|ndex=426
|pokemon=Drifblim
|held=Sitrus Berry
|gender=male
|level=52
|ability=Unburden
|type1=Ghost
|type2=Flying}}

|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Platinum
|ndex=477
|pokemon=Dusknoir
|gender=male
|level=52
|ability=Pressure
|type1=Ghost}}

|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Platinum
|ndex=302
|pokemon=Sableye
|gender=male
|move1=Fake Out|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|level=52
|ability=Stall
|type1=Dark
|type2=Ghost}}

|pokemon4={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=HeartGold and SoulSilver
|ndex=429
|pokemon=Mismagius
|gender=male
|level=54
|ability=Levitate
|type1=Ghost}}

|pokemon5={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=HeartGold and SoulSilver
|ndex=094
|pokemon=Gengar
|gender=male
|level=57
|ability=Levitate
|type1=Ghost
|type2=Poison}}

|pokemon6={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=HeartGold and SoulSilver
|ndex=094
|pokemon=Gengar
|gender=male
|level=57
|ability=Levitate
|type1=Ghost
|type2=Poison}}
}}

====Pokémon Stadium 2====
=====Round 1=====
{{Party|color={{ghost color}}|headcolor={{ghost color light}}|bordercolor={{ghost color dark}}|sprite=S2_Leader_Morty.png|prize=None|class=[[Leader]]|name=Morty|game=Round 1|location=[[Ecruteak Gym]]|pokemon=6|
pokemon1={{Pokémon|gen=2|ndex=094|pokemon=Gengar|gender=male|level=50|type1=Ghost|type2=Poison|held=Bitter Berry|move1=Shadow Ball|move1type=Ghost|move2=Night Shade|move2type=Ghost|move3=Psychic|move3type=Psychic|move4=Fire Punch|move4type=Fire}}|
pokemon2={{Pokémon|gen=2|ndex=168|pokemon=Ariados|level=50|type1=Bug|type2=Poison|held=Burnt Berry|move1=Psychic|move1type=Psychic|move2=Sludge Bomb|move2type=Poison|move3=Dig|move3type=Ground|move4=Night Shade|move4type=Ghost}}|
pokemon3={{Pokémon|gen=2|ndex=185|pokemon=Sudowoodo|gender=male|level=50|type1=Rock|held=Berry|move1=Strength|move1type=Normal|move2=Rock Slide|move2type=Rock|move3=Low Kick|move3type=Fighting|move4=Earthquake|move4type=Ground}}|
pokemon4={{Pokémon|gen=2|ndex=105|pokemon=Marowak|level=50|type1=Ground|held=Mint Berry|move1=Bonemerang|move1type=Ground|move2=Headbutt|move2type=Normal|move3=Bone Club|move3type=Ground|move4=Iron Tail|move4type=Steel}}|
pokemon5={{Pokémon|gen=2|ndex=203|pokemon=Girafarig|level=50|type1=Normal|type2=Psychic|held=PRZCureBerry|move1=Psybeam|move1type=Psychic|move2=Thunder|move2type=Electric|move3=Swift|move3type=Normal|move4=Nightmare|move4type=Ghost}}|
pokemon6={{Pokémon|gen=2|ndex=164|pokemon=Noctowl|gender=female|level=50|type1=Normal|type2=Flying|held=PSNCureBerry|move1=Fly|move1type=Flying|move2=Confusion|move2type=Psychic|move3=Take Down|move3type=Normal|move4=Foresight|move4type=Normal}}
}}

=====Round 2=====
{{Party|color={{ghost color}}|headcolor={{ghost color light}}|bordercolor={{ghost color dark}}|sprite=S2_Leader_Morty.png|prize=None|class=[[Leader]]|name=Morty|game=Round 2|location=[[Ecruteak Gym]]|pokemon=6|
pokemon1={{Pokémon|gen=2|ndex=094|pokemon=Gengar|level=50|type1=Ghost|type2=Poison|held=King's Rock|move1=Confuse Ray|move1type=Ghost|move2=Psychic|move2type=Psychic|move3=Fire Punch|move3type=Fire|move4=Thunderbolt|move4type=Electric}}|
pokemon2={{Pokémon|gen=2|ndex=103|pokemon=Exeggutor|level=50|type1=Grass|type2=Psychic|held=Quick Claw|move1=Psychic|move1type=Psychic|move2=Giga Drain|move2type=Grass|move3=Stun Spore|move3type=Grass|move4=Double-Edge|move4type=Normal}}|
pokemon3={{Pokémon|gen=2|ndex=131|pokemon=Lapras|level=50|type1=Water|type2=Ice|held=Miracle Berry|move1=Surf|move1type=Water|move2=Ice Beam|move2type=Ice|move3=Headbutt|move3type=Normal|move4=Thunderbolt|move4type=Electric}}|
pokemon4={{Pokémon|gen=2|ndex=200|pokemon=Misdreavus|level=50|type1=Ghost|held=Focus Band|move1=Confuse Ray|move1type=Ghost|move2=Shadow Ball|move2type=Ghost|move3=Psychic|move3type=Psychic|move4=Thunderbolt|move4type=Electric}}|
pokemon5={{Pokémon|gen=2|ndex=210|pokemon=Granbull|level=50|type1=Normal|held=Scope Lens|move1=Take Down|move1type=Normal|move2=Lick|move2type=Ghost|move3=Shadow Ball|move3type=Ghost|move4=Sludge Bomb|move4type=Poison}}|
pokemon6={{Pokémon|gen=2|ndex=226|pokemon=Mantine|level=50|type1=Water|type2=Flying|held=Bright Powder|move1=Surf|move1type=Water|move2=Ice Beam|move2type=Ice|move3=Confuse Ray|move3type=Ghost|move4=Wing Attack|move4type=Flying}}
}}

===Quotes===
{| align=right border="1" style="border: 1px solid #000; border-collapse: collapse;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- align=center
| [[Image:SpriteMorty.gif]]
| [[Image:MortyHGSS.gif]]
| [[Image:VSMorty.png]]
|- align=center style="font-size: 80%;"
| Morty's sprite from [[Generation II]]
| Morty's sprite from [[Generation IV]]
| Morty's VS sprite from [[Generation IV]]
|}
''"Good of you to have come. Here, in <sc>Ecruteak</sc>, <sc>Pok</sc>é<sc>mon</sc> have been revered. It's said that a {{p|Ho-Oh|rainbow-colored}} <sc>Pok</sc>é<sc>mon</sc> will come down to appear before a truly powerful trainer. I believed that tale, so I have secretly trained here all my life. As a result, I can now see what others cannot. Just a bit more... With a little more, I could see a future in which I meet the <sc>Pok</sc>é<sc>mon</sc> of rainbow colors. You're going to help me reach that level!"''

''"I'm not good enough yet... All right. This <sc>Badge</sc> is yours."''

''"I see... your journey has taken you to far-away places. And you have witnessed much more than me. I envy you for that..."''

==In the anime==
[[Image:Morty-anime.JPG|left|thumb|175px|Morty in the anime]]
Morty appears in three episodes of the {{pkmn|anime}}: ''[[EP181|A Ghost of a Chance]]'', ''[[EP182|From Ghost to Ghost]]'', and ''[[EP227|For Ho-Oh the Bells Toll!]]''.

He teaches classes on training {{type2|Ghost}}s. He knows that most Ghosts lack physical power, and relies on disabling his opponent by confusing or frightening them.

{{Ash}}, [[Misty]] and [[Brock]] first meet Morty when they mistakenly went to the [[Brass Tower|Burned Tower]] thinking it was the Gym. His {{t|Ghost}} Pokémon had created an illusion of fire to scare the trainers away, but Morty settled them and introduced himself as Gym Leader. He told them about the legend of {{p|Ho-Oh}} and the two towers of Ecruteak, but didn't believe that Ash had ever seen Ho-Oh. [[Image:Morty Theme Song.png|thumb|right|210px|Morty and his Gengar in ''[[Born to Be a Winner]]''.]]When [[Team Rocket]] kidnapped {{AP|Pikachu}} and {{TP|Misty|Togepi}}, he used his powerful {{p|Gengar}} to stop them.

The next day, Ash and Morty had their Gym battle. Ash was able to defeat him by relying on his {{AP|Noctowl}}'s {{m|Foresight}} to weaken Morty's Ghost Pokémon and make them vulnerable to {{t|Normal}} attacks. After Morty was defeated, he said he believed that Ash may very well have seen Ho-Oh, given Ash's great spirit.

When Ash and company returned to Ecruteak on their way to [[Mahogany Town]], it is revealed that he and [[Eusine]] have a close relationship because they both study about the rare [[legendary Pokémon]].
{{-}}
===Pokémon===
This listing is of Morty's Pokémon in the Pokémon anime.
{{trainerpkmn|note=h|main=no|Morty|Gastly|{{ghost color}}|noimage.png|Morty has many {{p|Gastly}}, and one of them was the first Pokémon he used in his match against {{Ash}}. Ash started with {{AP|Noctowl}}, using {{m|Foresight}} to make Gastly vulnerable to physical attacks, but switched for {{AP|Pikachu}} shortly afterwards. Gastly defeated Pikachu easily, but was then defeated by [[Ash's Cyndaquil]].}}
{{trainerpkmn|note=|main=no|Morty|Haunter|{{ghost color}}|noimage.png|{{p|Haunter}} was the second Pokémon Morty used against {{Ash}}. It used {{m|Mean Look}} to force Ash to stick with {{AP|Cyndaquil}}, and with {{m|Confuse Ray}} and {{m|Lick}}, it won the round. Ash now had only {{AP|Noctowl}} left to battle with. Things looked bad for Ash when Haunter managed to [[Status ailment#Confusion|confuse]] Noctowl with its {{m|Confuse Ray}}, but then Noctowl learned how to use {{m|Confusion}}, and beat Haunter with one try.}}
{{trainerpkmn|note=f|main=no|Morty|Gengar|{{ghost color}}|Morty's Gengar.jpg|Gengar made its first appearance along with Morty in ''[[EP181|A Ghost Of A Chance]]''. It always hangs out with Morty and it loves to play tricks on people who enter the [[Burned Tower]]. When [[Team Rocket]] tried to steal [[Ash's Pikachu]] as usual, Morty used Gengar to blast them away with a powerful {{m|Shadow Ball}} attack.

Morty used Gengar in the gym battle against {{Ash}} in ''[[EP182|From Ghost to Ghost]]''. Gengar was shown to be a formidable battler. It is able to attack opponents even when it is invisible, making it almost impossible for its opponents to find it. It was shown to use {{m|Shadow Ball}}, {{m|Confuse Ray}}, and {{m|Night Shade}}. [[Ash's Noctowl]] was able to reveal Gengar's location by using {{m|Confusion}} through the whole building and then using {{m|Foresight}} to keep Gengar visible. It then finished Gengar off with a {{m|Tackle}} attack and Ash got the {{badge|Fog}}.

Gengar appeared again in ''[[EP227|For Ho-Oh the Bells Toll!]]'', when Ash and friends were back in [[Ecruteak City]]. Morty used it to find the lost [[Clear Bells|Crystal Bells]], and later to confuse the wild {{p|Parasect}} that were surrounding the gym.}}

====At Ecruteak Gym====
{|border="1" style="border: 1px solid #000; border-collapse: collapse;" width=200px cellspacing="0"
|-
| align=center | [[Image:092.png]] {{p|Gastly}} (Multiple)
| align=center | [[Image:093.png]] {{p|Haunter}} (Multiple)
|}

===Voice actors===
{{vatable|color={{ghost color}}|bordercolor={{ghost color light}}
|ja=松風雅也 ''Masaya Matsukaze''
|en=[[Andrew Rannells]]
|pl=Ireneusz Machnicki ([[EP181]]-[[EP182]]) Aleksander Gawek ([[EP227]])}}

==In the Pokémon Special manga==
[[File:Morty Special.png|thumb|Morty and his Misdreavus]]
In [[Pokémon Special]], he is a natural version of the [[Itemfinder]], using his powers to locate lost objects and Pokémon. He has clairvoyant psychic abilities that allow him to see things at a distance.

He was unfortunately away from Ecruteak when [[Team Rocket]] attacked it, but later assisted in its reconstruction.

His dream is to one day be able to see {{p|Ho-Oh}}. The rainbow Pokémon's power is so great, it blocks Morty's abilities.

===Pokémon===
This listing is for Morty's Pokémon in the Pokémon Special manga.
{|border="1" style="border: 1px solid #000; border-collapse: collapse;" width=200px cellspacing="0"
|-
| align=center | [[Image:200.png]] {{p|Misdreavus}}
| align=center | [[Image:092.png]] {{p|Gastly}}
|}

==In the TCG==
This listing is of cards mentioning or featuring Morty or his Pokémon in the [[Pokémon Trading Card Game]].

{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{tcg psychic color}};"
!Name
!Type
!Level
!Rarity
!Set
!Set no.
|-
| {{TCG ID|VS|Morty's Ninetales|20}} || {{e|Fire}} || - || {{rar|Common}} || {{TCG|Pokémon VS}} (no English release) || 20/141
|-
| {{TCG ID|VS|Morty's Gengar|21}} || {{e|Psychic}} || - || {{rar|Common}} || {{TCG|Pokémon VS}} (no English release) || 21/141
|-
| {{TCG ID|VS|Morty's Hypno|22}} || {{e|Psychic}} || - || {{rar|Common}} || {{TCG|Pokémon VS}} (no English release) || 22/141
|-
| {{TCG ID|VS|Morty's Marowak|23}} || {{e|Fighting}} || - || {{rar|Common}} || {{TCG|Pokémon VS}} (no English release) || 23/141
|-
| {{TCG ID|VS|Morty's Noctowl|24}} || {{e|Colorless}} || - || {{rar|Common}} || {{TCG|Pokémon VS}} (no English release) || 24/141
|-
| {{TCG ID|VS|Morty's Murkrow|25}} || {{e|Darkness}} || - || [[Image:Rarity Rare.png|Rare Holographic]]H || {{TCG|Pokémon VS}} (no English release) || 25/141
|-
| {{TCG ID|VS|Morty's Misdreavus|26}} || {{e|Psychic}} || - || {{rar|Common}} || {{TCG|Pokémon VS}} (no English release) || 26/141
|-
| {{TCG ID|VS|Morty's TM 01|109}} || - || - || {{rar|Uncommon}} || {{TCG|Pokémon VS}} (no English release) || 109/141
|-
| {{TCG ID|VS|Morty's TM 02|110}} || - || - || {{rar|Uncommon}} || {{TCG|Pokémon VS}} (no English release) || 110/141
|}

==Trivia==
*His Japanese Leader title is {{tt|千里眼を持つ修験者|Clairvoyant ascetic}}.
*Morty is currently the only known Ghost-type specialist who is male.
*Morty appears in every city where is a gym before Ecruteak in {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}.
===Names===
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #88a; border-collapse: collapse;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #ccf;"
! Language
! Name
! Origin
|-
| Japanese
| マツバ ''Matsuba''
| 松葉 ''matsuba'', a pine needle. Possible from 末 ''matsu'', the end, or 魔 ''ma'', evil spirits.
|-
| English
| Morty
| From Latin ''mortis'', death.
|-
| French
| Mortimer
| From ''mort'', death.
|-
| German
| Jens
| From ''Jenseits'', afterlife.
|-
| Italian
| Angelo
| Literally means ''angel''.
|-
| Spanish
| Morti
| From ''muerte'', death, or ''mortuorio'', mortuary.
|-
| Korean (Game translation)
| 유빈 ''Yubin''
| Similar to 유령 ''yuryeong'', ghost.
|-
| Korean (Manga translation)
| 마솔 ''Masol''
| Similar to the word 마수(masu), which means 'evil hand'.
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| Chinese
| 小松 ''Xiǎo Sōng''
| 松 is taken from 松葉 ''matsuba''.
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== References ==
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==External links==
*[http://pokeani.com/chara/gym-matuba.html Matsuba's Profile] on [[Pokeani]] (Japanese)

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'''-----''', also known as '''DPBox''', and often called the '''[[Generation IV]] [[Missingno.]]''' due to its appearance, is a [[Glitch Pokémon]] in {{game|Diamond and Pearl|s}}. It has been dubbed "DPBox" by gamers due to its appearance, a white box with two vertical black lines on it. Its blocky appearance draws comparisons to the well-known [[Missingno.]] of {{game|Red and Blue|s}}.

[[Image:DPBox.png|frame|left|DPBox in Pokémon Diamond]]

It will appear in a player's party if they attempt to enter a [[double battle]] with two [[faint]]ed Pokémon, an {{pkmn|egg}}, and a healthy Pokémon in that order in their [[party]]. The glitch does not work when using a [[Vs Seeker]] to enter the double battle. When sent out, it will have {{p|Bulbasaur}}'s cry and will sparkle as if it were a {{shiny2}} Pokémon. In the Japanese version, it is also obtainable in the wild by using a Japanese [[Action Replay]].

It can also appear when one "recruits" a partner {{pkmn|Trainer}} (such as [[Riley]]) and leaves the area the partner is "supposed" to be in using a Walk Through Walls cheat; from there, the player must trigger a wild battle (a common method is to walk on water). This results in the partner (who was replaced by a placeholder partner when the player left the "recruitment area") sending out DPBox as a placeholder Pokémon. In double battles, DPBox copies the speed of its partner and changes all Pokémon's cries to Bulbasaur's cry. After every attack animation, its [[HP]] bar disappears. It has no usable attacks (although it may have glitch attacks) and it doesn't show up on the Pokémon screen.

To get rid of this glitch, place a Pokémon where it appears to be, that Pokémon will be deleted and DPBox will became selectable(if another Pokémon is selected or even pointed DPBox will become unselectable again), after that it can be released or placed in a box. If placed in the box, it will disappear when the PC is closed. Be cautious because if it isn't in the last slot when the party is full, the Pokémon that's placed where DPBox is will be deleted and DPBox will not be selectable. Also, if it is in the first slot, the game will freeze whenever the party is displayed.

Interestingly, when using the infamous [[Cheating|walk through anything]] code and going into a [[Wild Pokémon|wild]] [[double battle]], a variant of DPBox called [[Invisible Shiny Bulbasaur]] will be one of the two wild Pokémon.

It is also possible to clone items with -----.

==Glitched partner Trainer==
As was mentioned above, when one leaves the area where one "recruited" a partner Trainer, that Trainer is replaced by placeholder data. The reason is because when the player leaves the area, the game assumes that the player is no longer traveling with the partner and it changes all of the partner's data back to placeholder data. However, the game doesn't know that the player is still traveling with them, so when the player gets in a wild battle, the placeholder Trainer appears to assist the player.

The placeholder's Trainer back sprite is identical to the player's, and their only Pokémon is DPBox.

==Invisible shiny Bulbasaur==
{{main|Invisible shiny Bulbasaur}}

'''Invisible {{shiny2}} {{p|Bulbasaur}}''' is a variant of DPBox. It is usually found in [[Sinnoh]]'s [[Oreburgh Mine]] with the use of an Action Replay. It can also be encountered using the DPBox double battle method described above.

Invisible Shiny Bulbasaur always appears at Lv.0 with 0 Max HP, similarly to [[Ten question marks|??????????]] in [[Generation III]]. It is apparently invisible, although it may have a sprite resembling DPBox's (when it uses {{m|Struggle}} in a double battle, or its animation occurs when it enters battle, the bottom of a sprite resembling DPBox's is visible at the top of the screen). If the player attempts to attack it, the game will assume there is no target and end the battle immediately.

When encountered using the double battle method, it is likely to faint; if the player does not run, then after both real Pokémon have taken their turns, one of the glitches will attack the other with {{m|Struggle}}, causing both to faint (one from damage, the other from recoil). From this method, it can also be seen that its sprite is a duplicate of DPBox's, only placed higher for some reason.

==Trivia==
*In the American version of the game, DPbox appears in {{si|Victory Road}} when the player walks over water with [[Marley]].
*DPbox has been found to display a long name, repeating the last letter that appeared and overlapping three times as its name, before the player's Pokémon is sent out.
*Walking with a Pokémon in [[Amity Square]] is also read by the game as having a partner trainer, and can therefore be used to find DPbox in wild double battles.
*When a Pokémon is used in battle, there is usually a message saying 'What will (Pokémon's name) do?' but when DPbox is in battle, the message is 'Wh t ll do?' with small bits of glitched characters in the first two spaces. The reason for this is unknown.

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Talk:List of Key Items in Generation IV

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I created this using [[List of key items in Generation III]] as a template. I think I may have added too much information on things. Feel free to trim down the wordage if you find that appropriate.

What's the policy on sprites? I don't emu the game so screencapping isn't much an option. I can find most of these sprites on serebii.net, but I understand that Bulbapedia prefers unique content when possible, and for that matter I'm not sure what serebii's opinion is on that.

With that in mind, I'm not really sure about the placement of the sprite (you can only see it on SecretPotion, since that's the only one I could find an existing sprite for). Maybe a different format would work better for the list, but I wanted to go with what already existed. To that end, I kept some of the descriptions from the Gen III items that were carried over to Gen IV (for the fishing rods, for example).

The link on [[Storage Key]] actually links to the Gen III Storage Key description. Oops. Guess that needs a disam page or somesuch.
[[User:Pdrydia|Pdrydia]] 23:00, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

:Munching red links. Munch munch. Also removing the link to Storage Key, since it's kinda not useful.

:I'm thinking maybe some of these item stub pages (the ones that get linked from this page) are superfluous, without much room for expansion, but I'mma leave that for the more Bulbapedia-savvy. I'm not terribly cool with the idea of deleting pages. -[[User:Pdrydia|Pdrydia]] 14:53, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

== beta? ==

The [[Point Card]] is not in [[Pokémon Platinum |Platinum]], so it could be beta, and the [[Vs. Recorder]] is not on this list. {{unsigned|Abcboy}}
:It's not beta if it's not in the third version. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:43, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

== help with Storage Key ==

I am having huge problems with this Storage Key item, *where* exactly is it?
can someone draw on a screen cap or something? tell me what I need to get it. pretty please. {{SUBST::User:ZaphodBeeblebrox/sig}} 19:59, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
:We're not a walkthrough, bud. It's not that difficult; I don't think you can get it until after Snowpoint, though. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:29, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

== Secret Key Problem ==

The section on the Secret Key for Rotom has a broken link to its in-game picture. The actual picture's filename is {{img|Bag Secret Key Sprite.png}}. If an administrator could change this, that would be great. --[[User:RiverAura|*River*]] [[User_Talk:RiverAura|*Aura*]] 21:03, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:Oops, I forgot there were multiple Secret Keys when I renamed the images. Fixed accordingly. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:15, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

== Apricorn Case ==

the Apricorn Case is not for growthing Apricorns its just for carrying them, so that needs to be fixed --DSDark 02:06, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

== Apricorn Shaker ==

It's not an item. It's actually an outside tool like Berry Blender or Poffin Maker. It's located somewhere near Pokethlon Place. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 13:50, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

== Berry Planter ==

I noticed the Japanese title of the berry planter isn't on the article, however, I am also unable to edit the page~. The Japanese title happens to be きのみプランター. Also, the Apricorn Case is ばんぎりケース, which also happens to be missing~. Hope that's helpful~! [[User:PoisonRose|PoisonRose]] 00:08, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
:Cheers. Added. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 00:58, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

== new images ==

Well.. for some reason the article is locked but I already uploaded the Apricorn Case [[File:Bag Apricorn Case Sprite.png]] and the Berry Planter [[File:Berry Planter.png]] images. -- [[User talk:AOS|AOS]] 20:56, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
:Done. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 20:59, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
Took and uploaded 3 more, the names are the same as in 2nd gen. but the descriptions are longer. Basement Key [[File:Bag Basement Key HGSS Sprite.png]] Card Key [[File:Bag Card Key HGSS Sprite.png]] Squirtbottle [[File:Bag Squirtbottle Sprite.png]] -- [[User talk:AOS|AOS]] 22:47, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
:Forgot the Mystery Egg [[File:Bag Mystery Egg Sprite.png]] although it looks like any other egg sprite. -- [[User talk:AOS|AOS]] 23:30, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
:also forgot the Red Scale [[File:Bag Red Scale Sprite.png]], same as gen 2, you get an [[Exp. Share]] from [[Mr. Pokémon]]. -- [[User talk:AOS|AOS]] 01:08, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
:Got the Rainbow Wing [[File:Bag Rainbow Wing Sprite.png]] and a New Item; UnownDex [[File:Bag UnownDex Sprite.png]], it does the same thing as in 2nd gen but it is now a key item instead of an extra feature in the Dex. -- [[User talk:AOS|AOS]] 06:15, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
::The "UnownDex" has its own page, [[Unown Note]], to link to, when it is added. Also, Fashion Case is given by Kotone/whateverthemalecharacter'snameis in HGSS when entering the Goldenrod Underground for the first time. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 16:57, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
:::I have restructured the article to match the setup from the List of key items in Generation III, and reduced protection so that you experienced editors can expand this article. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:31, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

== Missing items ==

Hey. I have all key items in my english Rom of Platinum, incluiding the Red Chain, Magma Stone and the Seal Bag! In adittion for that, I will add a screenshot featuring the [[Magma Stone]], [[Loot Sack]], [[Rule Book]], [[S.S Ticket]], [[Red Chain]], [[Seal Bag]] and [[Contest Pass]]. I think we need to talk about this here. And, I think that a Trivia section will be good here, because we can add in "In Pokémon Diamond, Pearl and Platinum the Red Chain, Magma Stone and other items as example the Seal Bag, in the programming data." So...What do you say? --[[User:Poke nav|Po]][[User talk:Poke nav|ké]][[Special:Contributions/Poke nav|nav]]. [[User:Poke nav/Glitch|Is]] [[User:Poke nav/User Boxes|a]] [[User:Poke nav/Histories|glitch]] [[User:Poke nav/Manga|master!]] 15:55, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions/Archive 2

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By the way, everyone's paying attention LIKE A HAWK to any and all information concerning HGSS. Cool it. We will have stuff up and ready as soon as time allows.
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==Previous discussion==
* [[/Archive 1|Archive 1]] (8 May 2009 - 25 June 2009)

== Question about the talk page thing notice at the top ==

Wouldn't it be more accurate to say that talk pages are for discussing the article and its content, not its subject? A lot of what happens on talk pages is discussing content, such as whether or not to delete or add something, something to change, etc. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 05:52, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
:You didn't see anything.... *waves hands mysteriously* — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 06:01, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
::lol Okay. *mysteriously loses memory of the incorrect wording* What was I complaining about again? --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 06:02, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

== Date announced ==

See [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/hgss/special/wallpaper.html this]! It's on September 12. [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 06:51, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
:I agree! *celebrates* <s>Now, when's it coming out in America...?</s> --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 06:54, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
*It also should be noted that even if Google's translation had the right month the problem is it was too early before the release date was announced. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 14:40, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
:The fact that Google's (mis)translation had the right month was a coincidence, because the original Japanese text only said "fall 2009." --[[User:Evice|Evice]] 20:55, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

== Due to this not being added... Once template gets modified, add the following instead of "Story on Bulbanews" ==

<code><nowiki>{{bulbanews|game}}</nowiki></code>--'''[[User:Prmatt11|''Mew'']]* [[User talk:Prmatt11|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Prmatt11|Prmatt11]]''' was here at 13:05, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

==Pedometer==
Does anyone know if this is an actual pedometer that measures steps you, the human behind the DS, take, or if it's like the pedometer poketch app? It could easily be either, so maybe I'm not alone in thinking it should be given that detail in the article... Or maybe I'm just dumb. :P [[User:Mageslayer|Mageslayer]] 00:43, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
:That last thing. It's a regular pedometer, due to each step you take, the monster deposited gains an EXP point.--'''[[User:Prmatt11|''Mew'']]* [[User talk:Prmatt11|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Prmatt11|Prmatt11]]''' was here at 00:51, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

== Two edit requests an admin never responded to ==

I put these on the talk page previously (they're archived now), and an admin never responded:

Is it worth mentioning that the New Pokédex (Johto Pokédex) has its own numbering system this time? The numbers weren't displayed in Gen II. --[[User:Evice|Evice]] 03:08, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

<s>[The Wikipedia remake article link in the opening paragraph] currently links [[wp:remake|here]]; it should instead link [[wp:video game remake|here]], as the latter link discusses the type of remake HeartGold and SoulSilver are while the former discusses remakes in general, including unrelated types of remakes such as movie remakes. --[[User:Evice|Evice]] 02:06, 20 June 2009 (UTC)</s> [An admin took care of this. --[[User:Evice|Evice]] 00:58, 28 June 2009 (UTC)]

Can those be added? --[[User:Evice|Evice]] 20:58, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

:#We don;'t know that for sure, it could be the same as the old Johto Dex.
:#I'm no admin, So I can't help on that......--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 22:56, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
::When I said the Johto Pokédex has its own numbering system, I meant that the numbers were displayed. The order's the same from what has been seen (the Pokémon shown have numbers that match up with the Johto numbers on their Bulbapedia pages), it just has numbering this time. In the original games, the New Pokédex didn't display numbers on the list screen, and when you viewed a Pokémon's data, it used the National numbering. --[[User:Evice|Evice]] 23:12, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
:: I think it's too early to say either way. We don't know for sure that the Johto Dex in HGSS will be the same as it was in Generation II. I sorta doubt Kanto Starters and Legendaries will be put in it, unless there's a way to get them in HGSS..[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 00:13, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
::: They were in the original without being available in GS. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 00:51, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
::::The order and the Pokémon present are irrelevant for what I want to be added. The point of the edit I want to be made is that numbers are displayed on the Johto Pokédex's list in HGSS, unlike in GSC in which it didn't. The point is to add a change that is confirmed to have been made, and that is numbering in the Johto Pokédex's list, with those numbers also being used in the entries, rather than using the National numbering in the Pokémon pages and no numbering at all in the list. Originally numbers were only displayed in the list if the Old Pokédex mode (i.e. Gen II's equivalent of the National Pokédex) was used, and the numbers shown in the screenshots of HGSS's Pokédex are ''not'' the National numbering. --[[User:Evice|Evice]] 00:53, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
::::I went ahead and typed out a suggested edit to the Pokédex changes listed:
<nowiki>* Much like Kanto's was for its remakes, Johto's Pokédex has been redesigned; however, just the same, it retains the same [[List of Pokémon by Johto Pokédex number|Pokédex order]] referred to as the "New Pokédex" in [[Generation II]]. However, unlike in Generation II, the numbers used are displayed in the listing and the entries (originally the listing did not display numbering, while the entries displayed the [[National Pokédex]]'s numbering when viewed).</nowiki>{{unsigned|Evice}}

== Grammar fix ==

"These games' will be released in Japan nearly one year after the Japanese release of Pokémon Platinum."

Remove the apostrophe from "games'". --Posted by [[User:Pikamander2|Pikamander2]] [[User Talk:Pikamander2|(Talk)]] at 01:27, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

== Arceus Event ==
[http://www.serebii.net/heartgoldsoulsilver/arceus.shtml Source]

If you trade {{p|Arceus}} over to Heart Gold & Soul Silver and take it with you to a specific, currently unknown location, you will meet up with Champion [[Cynthia]]. She will explain that Arceus has the ability to create [[Baby Pokémon|newborn]] Pokémon. You have the option of choosing between the [[Dragon trio|three dragons]], {{p|Dialga}}, {{p|Palkia}}, and {{p|Giratina}}, all [[level]] 1. You must choose wisely, however, as you may keep only one.

[[User:050294|050294]] 01:53, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
:We already have this image. Way to look around the Archives before uploading anything. Seriously, good job. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 03:36, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
::Hey, I was just trying to help. Besides, the information hasn't even been uploaded to this article, so the additional, HELPFUL information towards this future game isn't a bad thing, and the image was a minor fault on my part. Way to be an ass. -- [[User:050294|050294]] 20:52, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Way to lose your cool. It's done now. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 00:03, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
::::Might I remind everyone that this is for discussing the article. Asking for something to be added is OK. Insulting each other, not so much. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 01:48, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

== Can someone please add the new information from high quality trailer? ==

The official HG/SS website updated with a higher quality video as many of us already know. Serebii.net just updated with some pictures from the trailer. It shows Morty in the Ecrutek city Gym which appeared to have received a redesign. It also shows an unknown Gym puzzle with lava which many speculate to be the Blackthorn Gym. The trailer also shows that Pokemon following you on the field can use their HM moves to get rid of obstacles. Of many things, Serebii shows a picture of Tyranitar using rock smash in Cainwood City, and some pictures of Gold and Totodile and Soul and Chikorita walking around with Totodile around Violet city and Ecrutek city, and a battle with Typhlosion and Meganium versus Feraligatr and Tyranitar. Tyranitar, Feraligatr, and Mareep sport new front sprites which may or may not be beta. --[[User:Dialgafan1|Dialgafan1]] 16:57, 3 July 2009 (UTC)Dialgafan1

== "Burned" Tower ==

Could someone please change the link in the Gallery section to Brass Tower, since that's what it's English name is. [[wp:Dolphin|Dolphins]][[User:Dolphin2|_are]][[Special:Contributions|_awesome]] (and [[Vulpix (Pokémon)|Vulpix]] are too)! 21:48, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
:That was what it was called before the fire. It was called the Burned Tower in G/S/C. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 21:50, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

::Not to mention that there were no mentions of the name "Brass Tower" in Gold/Silver, only in Crystal...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 21:52, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Burned Tower is Brass Tower, but in the games you can't visit it before it's burned. The Brass Tower name is the same as if, in PMTTYD you called Rogueport the ancient city that the demon destroyed. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:00, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

== Put this image in please ==

I found photos of the Red Gyarados from HG/SS. 
[http://i26.tinypic.com/vdwmf.png]
[http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/380/gyarados.jpg]
 
All I need to do now is to upload it here. [[User:Joe9320|Giratina Joe]] - [[User talk:Joe9320|Question Giratina Here- DO NOT DISTURB IT]] 05:36, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
:Those are terrible quality. We don't put bad quality pics up...We will wait for clearer pics.--[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 05:38, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
::Doesn't matter. But what it counts is that I found the images. [[User:Joe9320|Giratina Joe]] - [[User talk:Joe9320|Question Giratina Here- DO NOT DISTURB IT]] 05:41, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Yeah, it kinda does...All the pics on the page are not bad quality...--[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 05:44, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
::::The Red Gyarados alone is of mediocre quality, sure. But the other one? That's... ew. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:49, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::We can wait for high-quality scans or screenshots. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 06:37, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::I got a better image of it. It's here:
::::::[http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/hgss/pokemon/images/img_pokemon_04_01.jpg]
::::::[http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/hgss/pokemon/images/img_pokemon_04_02.jpg]
::::::[http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/hgss/news/images/news03/img_news_03_07.jpg]
::::::[[User:Joe9320|Giratina Joe]] - [[User talk:Joe9320|Question Giratina Here- DO NOT DISTURB IT]] 02:45, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

==pokethlon==
why does pokethlon doesn't have any page at all and no one ever put here in this page
:[[Pokéthlon]]--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 10:53, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

== Hello? Any admins here? Echo! ==

Change "Story on Bulbanews" to <nowiki>{{bulbanews|game}}</nowiki>{{unsigned|Immewnity}}
:I'm not an Administrator, but you should sign your comments.--[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight Blue]] 05:58, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
:: *coughs* This was done a while ago... I just didn't bother to leave a message on the talk page about it. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 11:05, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

== Is this trivia? ==

That HGSS release date is on the 12th and the original gold and silver date was the 21st. In Japan.--[[User:Pokéboy93|Pokéboy93]] 00:14, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
:Not realy. [[User:ShinyPikachu|ŚĥîΠŶPî₭₳ĉĥŭ]] 02:05, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
::Absolutely not. GS came out 11/21/99, HGSS come out on 9/12/09. There's not even trivia for their release compared with the release of FRLG, since neither is consistent with regards to the anniversary, period, let alone to the tenth anniversary. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:17, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

== Just wondering. ==

Is the intro show by Pokébeach official. If it is, then in the trivia section should it be mention unlike how FRLG had a remade intro, that HGSS has a new intro. Except the title screen.--[[User:Pokéboy93|Pokéboy93]] 00:19, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

== ummmmmm....just a quick question. ==

does that N/A on the release dates mean it won't be coming out in other countries?--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 19:58, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
*headdesk* --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 19:59, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
:No...it means the released date is either not known or not confirmed.--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 19:59, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks that's a load off my mind.--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 23:57, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
:Imagine how fans around the world would react if they didn't release HGSS outside of Japan. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 00:33, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

they would be furious.--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 00:43, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
:They would all die from shock.--[[User:Pokéboy93|Pokéboy93]] 00:44, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
::Okay, please stop you guys are going off topic take it somewhere else. --[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 00:46, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

srry--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 00:47, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
:sorry too--[[User:Pokéboy93|Pokéboy93]] 01:02, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

==All 493 Pokemon Follow The Player?==
I noticed that the article said that all Pokemon follow the player, but so far I haven't noticed any screenshot that showed more than Pokemon from Gen 1 and 2 doing so. What's the source on that ones from Gen3 and 4 do so as well? [[User:Plasma|Plasma]] 19:05, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
:There are pics of {{p|Arceus}} and {{p|Kecleon}} following the characters, The pic of Kecleon is really bad though...--[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 19:08, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
::Actually, the Keckleon one is Larvitar. There's a clean version on the [[Walking Pokémon]] page. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 19:10, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Huh...Maybe it's a different one...Anyways, Arceus is able to follow the player, so it would make sense for a Gen III Poke to follow as well...--[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 19:13, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
::::As far as I'm aware, the Kecleon thing was just an error on Serebii's part that became widespread, like the incorrect [[PokéWalker]] name "PokéWalk" (which he did recently correct, thankfully). [[User:Capsule Computer|Capsule Computer]] 19:36, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::There probably aren't any screenshots of pokemon other then Gen 1 and 2 because it's a remake of the Gen 2 games, which means most likely no pokemon of later gens until the player beats the elite 4 (unless they include the new evolutions). I don't know about a source, but I can't imagine them making sprites for all the gen 1 and 2 pokemon and then just leaving out the later gens. [[User:Derian|[[Derian]]]] 12:09, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

==Magnet Train==

In the article [[Magnet Train]], there's pic of the train in HG/SS, but it isn't here on the HG/SS page. Maybe an administrator can put it up in the gallery. '''[[User:Timmy Tim|''Timmy'']] [[User talk:Timmy Tim|''Tim'']]''' 06:56, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
:Good idea, but we'll be fine. We don't need every single image on this particular page. As long as it's somewhere on the pedia, we're happy. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:07, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

== Pokédex Numbers Aren't the Same ==

According to Serebii.net, released info from the PokéFiesta event in Japan disprove the fact that the Pokédex numbers are the same for the New Pokédex in HGSS:

Growlithe is #129 as opposed to #127, Arcanine is #130 as opposed to #128, and Lapras is #224 as opposed to #219. [[User:Professorsamueloak|Professorsamueloak]] 16:43, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

He's right, check Serebii and see for yourself. The numbers of those Pokemon are later in the Dex order because they probably added all the evolutions that Generation II Pokemon received in later generations such as Weavile, Honchkrow, Mismagius, and Togekiss. --[[User:Dialgafan1|Dialgafan1]] 20:27, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
:Sure. Its' in. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:35, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. Now that that's done, can soemone fix the fourth bullet point under '''Aesthetic Changes''' and change the last part of the sentence to this: "however, it does not retain the same Pokedex order as the original Generation II games unlike how Firered and Leafgreen retained the same Pokedex order as the original Red and Green." or something to that effect. --[[User:Dialgafan1|Dialgafan1]] 21:12, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
:Done also. Didn't see that. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:24, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
::You know, Serebii's not the ONLY place to get this news. We were discussing all this on the forums ''yesterday''. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 21:57, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

When I saw what was happening I felt like the reason for the changes was to remove some of the previous Pokémon that aren't needed like the Kanto starters, Legendaries, etc. But as I said on that pages' talk page that there should be no changes until the entire change within the Johto Pokédex is confirmed. Also while I am happy the page has been updated with that change I am unsure the part of the inclusion of Generation IV Pokémon bit is correct. But hey the truth on what will be changed will come out eventually. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 22:50, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

:Seeing as how they wouldn't restrict getting a Razor Fang or Claw into or even within HGSS, just like you can get Fluffy Tails into Gen IV games by migrating, and also remembering that we have the real-time function, Pokémon like Gliscor and Weavile will be available. Just like Electivire and Magmortar, and the ones that evolve by stones. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 02:34, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
::[http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/forumdisplay.php?f=368 Forum for discusion]. No more here please. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:37, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

== Kanto Pokemon Exclusions ==

Is there any evidence for that? --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 07:36, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Well the starters Bulbasaur, Charmander, Squirtle as well as the fossil Pokémon and Legendaries originally could not be found in Johto during Generation II and could only be transferred with the Time Machine and from what I can notice that these Pokémon, especially the starters and Legendaries would be the most likely Pokémon to exclude first. But once the official numbers have been confirmed for the new Johto Dex then well see if any others are excluded. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 08:10, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
:But is there any reason to think that they'll be excluded from Pokedex (not counting assumptions). I think the mention about the assumed exclusions should be deleted from the article. Especially that some people have recently started using Bulbapedia as almost official source, believing in its every word... --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 08:24, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

:Have you also noticed on [[List of Pokémon by Johto Pokédex number]] only those Pokémon I mentioned here are the only ones not included there. But anyway the main reason why those 19 would be excluded from the Pokédex is they are rare Pokémon that are never used in another Pokedex in the franchise's game history starting with Gen III, especially if the Hoenn and Sinnoh Regional Dexs are taken into account. I would also suggest that you take this to a forum topic because it is well on it's way to becoming one and I will not post again. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 16:04, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
::Of course. Bringing the other article as an evidence for your claim! How genius! And I don't see how it's "becoming a forum topic". I'm talking about a passage IN THIS ARTICLE. If it wasn't mentioned in the article, I wouldn't put that up here. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 16:11, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
That is not what I meant the last part of my last post was my response I am not using that article as an official source what I meant about how rare Pokémon not being used in another Pokédex is true. What's more unbelieveable to me is mentioning the new evolutions forms from Generation IV that of course is something I don't believe is going to happen. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 16:18, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

:Three things:

-Keep to the KANTO EXCLUSIVES. You're starting to get into the last conversation right above this when you talk about the new evolutions, Tyler.

-It isn't a forum conversation. Yet. If a fight starts, then it would be best if it was moved there so that none of us have to see it.

-It's a remake. Saying it won't have Kanto exclusive Pokémon is like saying that there won't be any Johto exclusive Pokémon. And yeah, it could be said that Kanto won't have them because it was an add-on to the main storyline, but remember. Kanto was about a third to half of the whole game, {{tt|time-wise|depending on how long it took you to get through the gyms and E4}}. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 17:11, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

== Apricorns ==

Yeah, would anyone mind adding that Apricorns are making a return to the Gameplay changes, along with the info that they can be watered now? I mean, that sounds like something that should be up there, especially since their respective Pokéballs don't exist in Diamond, Pearl and Platinum. [[User:Dark_Boye|Da]][[User talk:Dark_Boye|rk Bo]][[User:Dark_Boye|ye]] 01:51, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

== Mewtwo ==

If you go to Filb.de you can see a repeat of the HGSS part of Pokemon Sunday, now I don't understand Japanese, so I'm not sure what she said, but she held up this picture of every legendary available in HGSS, and Mewtwo was included and she read them out, and as she said Mewtwo there was a gasp of shock. Can I add in that Mewtwo is in HGSS? [[User:Max King|Max King]] 19:47, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Someone over forums told me that Mt. Quena would be introduced into HG/SS, and that he would be obtainable there, but there is no evidence to support this whatsoever and this could be entirely rumour-based at the moment. However, pokébeach.com says:
"As hinted in the box showing a battle for the 2010 World Championship's video game tournament, Pokemon Sunday yesterday confirmed that Legendary Pokemon will be allowed in the tournament: Mewtwo, Lugia, Ho-Oh, Groudon, Kyogre, Rayquaza, Dialga, Palkia and Giratina can be on your team. One of the hosts on Pokemon Sunday stated that he has always had a Kyogre but was never able to use it, which means he caught it in Sapphire. If so, Pokemon Sunday may be implying that players can use the above legendaries from any of your games at next year's tournament, not just the Ho-Oh, Kyogre, Dialga, etc. caught in HeartGold and SoulSilver."

So, from that I think it'd be too early to confirm he is obtainable in the game, though some might suggest that this hints towards it. [[User:Antmoney|Antmoney]] 02:38, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

==Gallery Captions==

Can somebody PLEASE change the "Oh Soul I've been waiting for you" to "Oh GOLD, I've been waiting for you" as it is clearly Gold in the screenshot and not Soul, its been annoying me for ages. [[User:Ripp145|Ripp]] 15:20 11th August 2009

It's supposed to say that. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 14:22, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Oh, lol. I presume Soul enters after he says that then... or something. [[User:Ripp145|Ripp]] 16:02 11th August 2009

:Either it's wrong and somebody needs to change it, or the player character at that time was Soul and Gold was talking to her. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 15:25, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

::Well, Leaf was one of Red's optional names in Leaf Green, so I'm pretty sure that Soul will be one of Gold's optional names from Soul Silver and that is from Soul Silver. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 15:28, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

::: DO NOT CHANGE IT. His name is Soul in the game, or at least in that screenshot. It says "Utsugi: A Souru-kun kitekureno matte tan dayo!" So his name is Soul (Souru) in that screenshot, though his name is Gold in the original game. It'd be a mistranslation to call him Gold. [[User:CherryParanoia|CherryParanoia]] 20:43, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Well only admins can change it. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 20:45, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::Hope admins don't change it incorrectly. xD [[User:CherryParanoia|CherryParanoia]] 22:59, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

== update ==

the oficial page make an update--[[User:Kyokencl|kyokencl]] 17:16, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

== HGSS US announment ==

Pokemon.com has announced HGSS for the US![[User:Evandeck|Evandeck]] 18:53, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/rr160/obi_wan_14/pokemonheartgold-1-1.jpg
::It has been announced for Spring 2010 in the US and Europe. Additionally, here are the logos that I pulled off the site. –[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 19:22, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
:::Could some1 add the release date for HGSS in the N. America section? And add the logos as well? [[User talk: ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']] 20:00, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Make that a png and transparentify it, then upload to Archives. We'll keep the Japanese boxart up until we get English ones, but this is good. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:28, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Sorry for the stupid question, but when exactly is Spring 2010 ([[User:GT4GTR|GT4GTR]] 12:59, 15 August 2009 (UTC))
:Nevermind, i had a mental blank. It's confusing living in the southern hemisphere trying to figure out when spring is in the North, lol.
::What are the chances it will be out in Australia before 2011? ([[User:GT4GTR|GT4GTR]] 13:03, 15 August 2009 (UTC))
:Around March, April, May, and early June in the US next year [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 13:01, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
::they are high [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 13:07, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
:::Hmmm, i've always thought they're terrible releasing the games here, but recently they haven't been too bad. The anime on the other hand... Battle Dimension's only just started airing here. it's a disgrace. I'm looking forward to this game. ([[User:GT4GTR|GT4GTR]] 13:10, 15 August 2009 (UTC))
::::It'll probably be released on the same year as the American release, just at a different date (possibly july or August)--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 13:14, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

== Pokémon Centers have a different design... ==

The Pokémon centers have a different design...I watch it in the promo-video of HeartGold and SoulSilver. Yeah. That's what i watched. The Pokémon centers have non-authomatic upstairs. Thanks for hear the higlight --[[User:Poke nav|Po]][[User talk:Poke nav|ké]][[Special:Contributions/Poke nav|nav]]. [[User:Poke nav/Glitch|Is]] [[User:Poke nav/User Boxes|a]] [[User:Poke nav/Histories|glitch]] [[User:Poke nav/Manga|master!]] 18:12, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I saw that too. It's like what they did to the Kanto Centers. But are you sure that there is no non-authomatic upstairs?--[[User:Spritemaster]]

: Yes, there are like the Volkner's gym Upstairs, but the basement upstairs will not be... I'm not sure, but yeah, it have a different design. --[[User:Poke nav|Po]][[User talk:Poke nav|ké]][[Special:Contributions/Poke nav|nav]]. [[User:Poke nav/Glitch|Is]] [[User:Poke nav/User Boxes|a]] [[User:Poke nav/Histories|glitch]] [[User:Poke nav/Manga|master!]] 00:11, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

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== Friendship Request ==

[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Return_of_the_Squirtle_Squad&curid=82586&action=history The preview button is lonely. Want to be its friend?] —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:41, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
:TELL THE PREVIEW BUTTON THAT I'VE BEEN USING IT!!!! Sorry, guess I lost it there. Ok, ok, ok. I won't make multiple edits from now on. --[[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 21:44, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

== Psst. ==

Negative stuff is what happens as you get used to TEH ROOLZ. Check out my first talk page. Even I was a noob. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:07, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
:I know. I was just getting tired of seeing yelling of the past every time I go to my talkpage. I wanna get a fresh, new start. --[[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 22:12, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

== Hi there ==

Without wanting to make a huge fuss about this, I'd like to point you in the direction of the {{bp|code of conduct|coc}}. Specifically, [[BP:COC#Other_aspects_of_the_user_space|this section]]. Please and thankyou. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:09, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
:Fine, oh fine. I just wanted to express my dislike for {{u|Turtwig A}}, (I want the Golden Eevee) so I put that there, but I created a list of my opinions on users. But, ok, ok, I removed it. *Snort* --[[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 20:30, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
::Yes, hating people is the way to get recognition for being a good editor... You don't qualify, anyway. You signed up in April. The next lot of GBAs is for June/July/August. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:51, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
:::Dang. I thought I'd qualify because of the hiatus I took during late April-late June. --[[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 20:53, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
::::What do I have to do with the Golden Eevee? [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 20:56, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::Desire for an award is no reason not to be nice.--[[Flash Fire (ability)|freezing]][[Heat Wave (move)|COLD]] ([[user:Cold|page]], [[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 21:00, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::: To Turtwig: You're a new user. New user=possible Golden Eevee. I wanted Golden Eevee. Did not want you to get it. I wanted it. Trom crushed dream. I still don't want you to get it, although you'll probably get it anyway. CUBONEKING USED FLAMETHROWER! IT HIT TURTWIG A! IT'S SUPER EFFECTIVE!!!!!!!!! --[[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 21:01, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Oh don't worry yourself too much. Just be a good user and you'll probably get something. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:57, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Ok, but I just want to make it clear that I'm not Turtwig A's biggest fan. --[[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 23:59, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

== Okay, enough ==

You need to stop bugging {{u|CherryParanoia}}. I think she gets the message. She's beginning to feel harassed by you. So, can you stop bugging her now? --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 01:29, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
:Ok, sorry. --[[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 01:45, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

== Moar style ==

TCG style. Please make sure every single piece of trivia is worded and linked exactly the same as every single other piece of trivia. It's imperative. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 22:48, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
:Sorry. Where could I find the style page for TCG articles? --[[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 00:15, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
::Other card pages. The TCGMoS isn't done yet. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 00:34, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi {{unsigned|Qwerty2355‎}}
:Um... that was random? --[[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 01:35, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

== Relax ==

you need to stop overreacting about everything. one edit is not a vandal, its just "vandalism" which if continued, leads to a vandal. and while you may not see us, theres a pretty good chance an admin is watching the RC. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 17:01, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
:Sorry. That was the very first vandalism I've seen here, and I didn't know how to react(I was inactive during the Grawp incedent). --[[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 00:49, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

== Talk page policy ==

Don't delete things that make you mad. Against policy. -- '''[[User:evkl|evkl]]''' [[User_talk:evkl|(need to talk?)]] 03:18, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
:Wouldn't that make anyone mad? I'm no troll. SONICHU IS THE TROLL!!! --[[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 03:20, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

== I'll do it just now ==

Watch the new signature: --[[User:Poke nav|Po]][[User talk:Poke nav|ké]][[Special:Contributions/Poke nav|<span="color:yellow">nav]]. [[User:Poke nav/Glitch|Is]] [[User:Poke nav/User Boxes|a]] [[User:Poke nav/Histories|glitch]] [[User:Poke nav/Manga|master!]] 18:28, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

User talk:CuboneKing/Archive 2

2009-08-24T18:31:21Z

Poke nav: /* I'll do it just now */ new section

User talk:CuboneKing/Archive 2

2009-08-24T18:28:42Z

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Talk:Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions/Archive 2

2009-08-24T18:12:47Z

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{| style="background: #f3bc00; border: 5px solid #93abc3; width: 100%; -moz-border-radius: 25px; padding: 5px"
|- align="center"
| <big><big><big>'''Remember, {{color2|000|Bulbapedia:Talk page|talk pages}} are meant for discussing the article itself, not the subject. To post all your wild theories and random questions about the content of the games, see [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/forumdisplay.php?f=368 {{color|1b45c1|this forum section}}].'''</big></big></big>

By the way, everyone's paying attention LIKE A HAWK to any and all information concerning HGSS. Cool it. We will have stuff up and ready as soon as time allows.
|}{{-}}

==Previous discussion==
* [[/Archive 1|Archive 1]] (8 May 2009 - 25 June 2009)

== Question about the talk page thing notice at the top ==

Wouldn't it be more accurate to say that talk pages are for discussing the article and its content, not its subject? A lot of what happens on talk pages is discussing content, such as whether or not to delete or add something, something to change, etc. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 05:52, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
:You didn't see anything.... *waves hands mysteriously* — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 06:01, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
::lol Okay. *mysteriously loses memory of the incorrect wording* What was I complaining about again? --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 06:02, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

== Date announced ==

See [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/hgss/special/wallpaper.html this]! It's on September 12. [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 06:51, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
:I agree! *celebrates* <s>Now, when's it coming out in America...?</s> --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 06:54, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
*It also should be noted that even if Google's translation had the right month the problem is it was too early before the release date was announced. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 14:40, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
:The fact that Google's (mis)translation had the right month was a coincidence, because the original Japanese text only said "fall 2009." --[[User:Evice|Evice]] 20:55, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

== Due to this not being added... Once template gets modified, add the following instead of "Story on Bulbanews" ==

<code><nowiki>{{bulbanews|game}}</nowiki></code>--'''[[User:Prmatt11|''Mew'']]* [[User talk:Prmatt11|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Prmatt11|Prmatt11]]''' was here at 13:05, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

==Pedometer==
Does anyone know if this is an actual pedometer that measures steps you, the human behind the DS, take, or if it's like the pedometer poketch app? It could easily be either, so maybe I'm not alone in thinking it should be given that detail in the article... Or maybe I'm just dumb. :P [[User:Mageslayer|Mageslayer]] 00:43, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
:That last thing. It's a regular pedometer, due to each step you take, the monster deposited gains an EXP point.--'''[[User:Prmatt11|''Mew'']]* [[User talk:Prmatt11|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Prmatt11|Prmatt11]]''' was here at 00:51, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

== Two edit requests an admin never responded to ==

I put these on the talk page previously (they're archived now), and an admin never responded:

Is it worth mentioning that the New Pokédex (Johto Pokédex) has its own numbering system this time? The numbers weren't displayed in Gen II. --[[User:Evice|Evice]] 03:08, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

<s>[The Wikipedia remake article link in the opening paragraph] currently links [[wp:remake|here]]; it should instead link [[wp:video game remake|here]], as the latter link discusses the type of remake HeartGold and SoulSilver are while the former discusses remakes in general, including unrelated types of remakes such as movie remakes. --[[User:Evice|Evice]] 02:06, 20 June 2009 (UTC)</s> [An admin took care of this. --[[User:Evice|Evice]] 00:58, 28 June 2009 (UTC)]

Can those be added? --[[User:Evice|Evice]] 20:58, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

:#We don;'t know that for sure, it could be the same as the old Johto Dex.
:#I'm no admin, So I can't help on that......--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 22:56, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
::When I said the Johto Pokédex has its own numbering system, I meant that the numbers were displayed. The order's the same from what has been seen (the Pokémon shown have numbers that match up with the Johto numbers on their Bulbapedia pages), it just has numbering this time. In the original games, the New Pokédex didn't display numbers on the list screen, and when you viewed a Pokémon's data, it used the National numbering. --[[User:Evice|Evice]] 23:12, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
:: I think it's too early to say either way. We don't know for sure that the Johto Dex in HGSS will be the same as it was in Generation II. I sorta doubt Kanto Starters and Legendaries will be put in it, unless there's a way to get them in HGSS..[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 00:13, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
::: They were in the original without being available in GS. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 00:51, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
::::The order and the Pokémon present are irrelevant for what I want to be added. The point of the edit I want to be made is that numbers are displayed on the Johto Pokédex's list in HGSS, unlike in GSC in which it didn't. The point is to add a change that is confirmed to have been made, and that is numbering in the Johto Pokédex's list, with those numbers also being used in the entries, rather than using the National numbering in the Pokémon pages and no numbering at all in the list. Originally numbers were only displayed in the list if the Old Pokédex mode (i.e. Gen II's equivalent of the National Pokédex) was used, and the numbers shown in the screenshots of HGSS's Pokédex are ''not'' the National numbering. --[[User:Evice|Evice]] 00:53, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
::::I went ahead and typed out a suggested edit to the Pokédex changes listed:
<nowiki>* Much like Kanto's was for its remakes, Johto's Pokédex has been redesigned; however, just the same, it retains the same [[List of Pokémon by Johto Pokédex number|Pokédex order]] referred to as the "New Pokédex" in [[Generation II]]. However, unlike in Generation II, the numbers used are displayed in the listing and the entries (originally the listing did not display numbering, while the entries displayed the [[National Pokédex]]'s numbering when viewed).</nowiki>{{unsigned|Evice}}

== Grammar fix ==

"These games' will be released in Japan nearly one year after the Japanese release of Pokémon Platinum."

Remove the apostrophe from "games'". --Posted by [[User:Pikamander2|Pikamander2]] [[User Talk:Pikamander2|(Talk)]] at 01:27, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

== Arceus Event ==
[http://www.serebii.net/heartgoldsoulsilver/arceus.shtml Source]

If you trade {{p|Arceus}} over to Heart Gold & Soul Silver and take it with you to a specific, currently unknown location, you will meet up with Champion [[Cynthia]]. She will explain that Arceus has the ability to create [[Baby Pokémon|newborn]] Pokémon. You have the option of choosing between the [[Dragon trio|three dragons]], {{p|Dialga}}, {{p|Palkia}}, and {{p|Giratina}}, all [[level]] 1. You must choose wisely, however, as you may keep only one.

[[User:050294|050294]] 01:53, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
:We already have this image. Way to look around the Archives before uploading anything. Seriously, good job. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 03:36, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
::Hey, I was just trying to help. Besides, the information hasn't even been uploaded to this article, so the additional, HELPFUL information towards this future game isn't a bad thing, and the image was a minor fault on my part. Way to be an ass. -- [[User:050294|050294]] 20:52, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Way to lose your cool. It's done now. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 00:03, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
::::Might I remind everyone that this is for discussing the article. Asking for something to be added is OK. Insulting each other, not so much. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 01:48, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

== Can someone please add the new information from high quality trailer? ==

The official HG/SS website updated with a higher quality video as many of us already know. Serebii.net just updated with some pictures from the trailer. It shows Morty in the Ecrutek city Gym which appeared to have received a redesign. It also shows an unknown Gym puzzle with lava which many speculate to be the Blackthorn Gym. The trailer also shows that Pokemon following you on the field can use their HM moves to get rid of obstacles. Of many things, Serebii shows a picture of Tyranitar using rock smash in Cainwood City, and some pictures of Gold and Totodile and Soul and Chikorita walking around with Totodile around Violet city and Ecrutek city, and a battle with Typhlosion and Meganium versus Feraligatr and Tyranitar. Tyranitar, Feraligatr, and Mareep sport new front sprites which may or may not be beta. --[[User:Dialgafan1|Dialgafan1]] 16:57, 3 July 2009 (UTC)Dialgafan1

== "Burned" Tower ==

Could someone please change the link in the Gallery section to Brass Tower, since that's what it's English name is. [[wp:Dolphin|Dolphins]][[User:Dolphin2|_are]][[Special:Contributions|_awesome]] (and [[Vulpix (Pokémon)|Vulpix]] are too)! 21:48, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
:That was what it was called before the fire. It was called the Burned Tower in G/S/C. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 21:50, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

::Not to mention that there were no mentions of the name "Brass Tower" in Gold/Silver, only in Crystal...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 21:52, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Burned Tower is Brass Tower, but in the games you can't visit it before it's burned. The Brass Tower name is the same as if, in PMTTYD you called Rogueport the ancient city that the demon destroyed. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:00, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

== Put this image in please ==

I found photos of the Red Gyarados from HG/SS. 
[http://i26.tinypic.com/vdwmf.png]
[http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/380/gyarados.jpg]
 
All I need to do now is to upload it here. [[User:Joe9320|Giratina Joe]] - [[User talk:Joe9320|Question Giratina Here- DO NOT DISTURB IT]] 05:36, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
:Those are terrible quality. We don't put bad quality pics up...We will wait for clearer pics.--[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 05:38, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
::Doesn't matter. But what it counts is that I found the images. [[User:Joe9320|Giratina Joe]] - [[User talk:Joe9320|Question Giratina Here- DO NOT DISTURB IT]] 05:41, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Yeah, it kinda does...All the pics on the page are not bad quality...--[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 05:44, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
::::The Red Gyarados alone is of mediocre quality, sure. But the other one? That's... ew. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:49, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::We can wait for high-quality scans or screenshots. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 06:37, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::I got a better image of it. It's here:
::::::[http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/hgss/pokemon/images/img_pokemon_04_01.jpg]
::::::[http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/hgss/pokemon/images/img_pokemon_04_02.jpg]
::::::[http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/hgss/news/images/news03/img_news_03_07.jpg]
::::::[[User:Joe9320|Giratina Joe]] - [[User talk:Joe9320|Question Giratina Here- DO NOT DISTURB IT]] 02:45, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

==pokethlon==
why does pokethlon doesn't have any page at all and no one ever put here in this page
:[[Pokéthlon]]--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 10:53, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

== Hello? Any admins here? Echo! ==

Change "Story on Bulbanews" to <nowiki>{{bulbanews|game}}</nowiki>{{unsigned|Immewnity}}
:I'm not an Administrator, but you should sign your comments.--[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight Blue]] 05:58, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
:: *coughs* This was done a while ago... I just didn't bother to leave a message on the talk page about it. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 11:05, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

== Is this trivia? ==

That HGSS release date is on the 12th and the original gold and silver date was the 21st. In Japan.--[[User:Pokéboy93|Pokéboy93]] 00:14, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
:Not realy. [[User:ShinyPikachu|ŚĥîΠŶPî₭₳ĉĥŭ]] 02:05, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
::Absolutely not. GS came out 11/21/99, HGSS come out on 9/12/09. There's not even trivia for their release compared with the release of FRLG, since neither is consistent with regards to the anniversary, period, let alone to the tenth anniversary. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:17, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

== Just wondering. ==

Is the intro show by Pokébeach official. If it is, then in the trivia section should it be mention unlike how FRLG had a remade intro, that HGSS has a new intro. Except the title screen.--[[User:Pokéboy93|Pokéboy93]] 00:19, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

== ummmmmm....just a quick question. ==

does that N/A on the release dates mean it won't be coming out in other countries?--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 19:58, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
*headdesk* --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 19:59, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
:No...it means the released date is either not known or not confirmed.--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 19:59, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks that's a load off my mind.--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 23:57, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
:Imagine how fans around the world would react if they didn't release HGSS outside of Japan. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 00:33, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

they would be furious.--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 00:43, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
:They would all die from shock.--[[User:Pokéboy93|Pokéboy93]] 00:44, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
::Okay, please stop you guys are going off topic take it somewhere else. --[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 00:46, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

srry--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 00:47, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
:sorry too--[[User:Pokéboy93|Pokéboy93]] 01:02, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

==All 493 Pokemon Follow The Player?==
I noticed that the article said that all Pokemon follow the player, but so far I haven't noticed any screenshot that showed more than Pokemon from Gen 1 and 2 doing so. What's the source on that ones from Gen3 and 4 do so as well? [[User:Plasma|Plasma]] 19:05, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
:There are pics of {{p|Arceus}} and {{p|Kecleon}} following the characters, The pic of Kecleon is really bad though...--[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 19:08, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
::Actually, the Keckleon one is Larvitar. There's a clean version on the [[Walking Pokémon]] page. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 19:10, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Huh...Maybe it's a different one...Anyways, Arceus is able to follow the player, so it would make sense for a Gen III Poke to follow as well...--[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 19:13, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
::::As far as I'm aware, the Kecleon thing was just an error on Serebii's part that became widespread, like the incorrect [[PokéWalker]] name "PokéWalk" (which he did recently correct, thankfully). [[User:Capsule Computer|Capsule Computer]] 19:36, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::There probably aren't any screenshots of pokemon other then Gen 1 and 2 because it's a remake of the Gen 2 games, which means most likely no pokemon of later gens until the player beats the elite 4 (unless they include the new evolutions). I don't know about a source, but I can't imagine them making sprites for all the gen 1 and 2 pokemon and then just leaving out the later gens. [[User:Derian|[[Derian]]]] 12:09, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

==Magnet Train==

In the article [[Magnet Train]], there's pic of the train in HG/SS, but it isn't here on the HG/SS page. Maybe an administrator can put it up in the gallery. '''[[User:Timmy Tim|''Timmy'']] [[User talk:Timmy Tim|''Tim'']]''' 06:56, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
:Good idea, but we'll be fine. We don't need every single image on this particular page. As long as it's somewhere on the pedia, we're happy. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:07, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

== Pokédex Numbers Aren't the Same ==

According to Serebii.net, released info from the PokéFiesta event in Japan disprove the fact that the Pokédex numbers are the same for the New Pokédex in HGSS:

Growlithe is #129 as opposed to #127, Arcanine is #130 as opposed to #128, and Lapras is #224 as opposed to #219. [[User:Professorsamueloak|Professorsamueloak]] 16:43, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

He's right, check Serebii and see for yourself. The numbers of those Pokemon are later in the Dex order because they probably added all the evolutions that Generation II Pokemon received in later generations such as Weavile, Honchkrow, Mismagius, and Togekiss. --[[User:Dialgafan1|Dialgafan1]] 20:27, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
:Sure. Its' in. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:35, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. Now that that's done, can soemone fix the fourth bullet point under '''Aesthetic Changes''' and change the last part of the sentence to this: "however, it does not retain the same Pokedex order as the original Generation II games unlike how Firered and Leafgreen retained the same Pokedex order as the original Red and Green." or something to that effect. --[[User:Dialgafan1|Dialgafan1]] 21:12, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
:Done also. Didn't see that. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:24, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
::You know, Serebii's not the ONLY place to get this news. We were discussing all this on the forums ''yesterday''. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 21:57, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

When I saw what was happening I felt like the reason for the changes was to remove some of the previous Pokémon that aren't needed like the Kanto starters, Legendaries, etc. But as I said on that pages' talk page that there should be no changes until the entire change within the Johto Pokédex is confirmed. Also while I am happy the page has been updated with that change I am unsure the part of the inclusion of Generation IV Pokémon bit is correct. But hey the truth on what will be changed will come out eventually. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 22:50, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

:Seeing as how they wouldn't restrict getting a Razor Fang or Claw into or even within HGSS, just like you can get Fluffy Tails into Gen IV games by migrating, and also remembering that we have the real-time function, Pokémon like Gliscor and Weavile will be available. Just like Electivire and Magmortar, and the ones that evolve by stones. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 02:34, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
::[http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/forumdisplay.php?f=368 Forum for discusion]. No more here please. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:37, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

== Kanto Pokemon Exclusions ==

Is there any evidence for that? --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 07:36, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Well the starters Bulbasaur, Charmander, Squirtle as well as the fossil Pokémon and Legendaries originally could not be found in Johto during Generation II and could only be transferred with the Time Machine and from what I can notice that these Pokémon, especially the starters and Legendaries would be the most likely Pokémon to exclude first. But once the official numbers have been confirmed for the new Johto Dex then well see if any others are excluded. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 08:10, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
:But is there any reason to think that they'll be excluded from Pokedex (not counting assumptions). I think the mention about the assumed exclusions should be deleted from the article. Especially that some people have recently started using Bulbapedia as almost official source, believing in its every word... --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 08:24, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

:Have you also noticed on [[List of Pokémon by Johto Pokédex number]] only those Pokémon I mentioned here are the only ones not included there. But anyway the main reason why those 19 would be excluded from the Pokédex is they are rare Pokémon that are never used in another Pokedex in the franchise's game history starting with Gen III, especially if the Hoenn and Sinnoh Regional Dexs are taken into account. I would also suggest that you take this to a forum topic because it is well on it's way to becoming one and I will not post again. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 16:04, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
::Of course. Bringing the other article as an evidence for your claim! How genius! And I don't see how it's "becoming a forum topic". I'm talking about a passage IN THIS ARTICLE. If it wasn't mentioned in the article, I wouldn't put that up here. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 16:11, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
That is not what I meant the last part of my last post was my response I am not using that article as an official source what I meant about how rare Pokémon not being used in another Pokédex is true. What's more unbelieveable to me is mentioning the new evolutions forms from Generation IV that of course is something I don't believe is going to happen. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 16:18, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

:Three things:

-Keep to the KANTO EXCLUSIVES. You're starting to get into the last conversation right above this when you talk about the new evolutions, Tyler.

-It isn't a forum conversation. Yet. If a fight starts, then it would be best if it was moved there so that none of us have to see it.

-It's a remake. Saying it won't have Kanto exclusive Pokémon is like saying that there won't be any Johto exclusive Pokémon. And yeah, it could be said that Kanto won't have them because it was an add-on to the main storyline, but remember. Kanto was about a third to half of the whole game, {{tt|time-wise|depending on how long it took you to get through the gyms and E4}}. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 17:11, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

== Apricorns ==

Yeah, would anyone mind adding that Apricorns are making a return to the Gameplay changes, along with the info that they can be watered now? I mean, that sounds like something that should be up there, especially since their respective Pokéballs don't exist in Diamond, Pearl and Platinum. [[User:Dark_Boye|Da]][[User talk:Dark_Boye|rk Bo]][[User:Dark_Boye|ye]] 01:51, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

== Mewtwo ==

If you go to Filb.de you can see a repeat of the HGSS part of Pokemon Sunday, now I don't understand Japanese, so I'm not sure what she said, but she held up this picture of every legendary available in HGSS, and Mewtwo was included and she read them out, and as she said Mewtwo there was a gasp of shock. Can I add in that Mewtwo is in HGSS? [[User:Max King|Max King]] 19:47, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Someone over forums told me that Mt. Quena would be introduced into HG/SS, and that he would be obtainable there, but there is no evidence to support this whatsoever and this could be entirely rumour-based at the moment. However, pokébeach.com says:
"As hinted in the box showing a battle for the 2010 World Championship's video game tournament, Pokemon Sunday yesterday confirmed that Legendary Pokemon will be allowed in the tournament: Mewtwo, Lugia, Ho-Oh, Groudon, Kyogre, Rayquaza, Dialga, Palkia and Giratina can be on your team. One of the hosts on Pokemon Sunday stated that he has always had a Kyogre but was never able to use it, which means he caught it in Sapphire. If so, Pokemon Sunday may be implying that players can use the above legendaries from any of your games at next year's tournament, not just the Ho-Oh, Kyogre, Dialga, etc. caught in HeartGold and SoulSilver."

So, from that I think it'd be too early to confirm he is obtainable in the game, though some might suggest that this hints towards it. [[User:Antmoney|Antmoney]] 02:38, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

==Gallery Captions==

Can somebody PLEASE change the "Oh Soul I've been waiting for you" to "Oh GOLD, I've been waiting for you" as it is clearly Gold in the screenshot and not Soul, its been annoying me for ages. [[User:Ripp145|Ripp]] 15:20 11th August 2009

It's supposed to say that. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 14:22, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Oh, lol. I presume Soul enters after he says that then... or something. [[User:Ripp145|Ripp]] 16:02 11th August 2009

:Either it's wrong and somebody needs to change it, or the player character at that time was Soul and Gold was talking to her. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 15:25, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

::Well, Leaf was one of Red's optional names in Leaf Green, so I'm pretty sure that Soul will be one of Gold's optional names from Soul Silver and that is from Soul Silver. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 15:28, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

::: DO NOT CHANGE IT. His name is Soul in the game, or at least in that screenshot. It says "Utsugi: A Souru-kun kitekureno matte tan dayo!" So his name is Soul (Souru) in that screenshot, though his name is Gold in the original game. It'd be a mistranslation to call him Gold. [[User:CherryParanoia|CherryParanoia]] 20:43, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Well only admins can change it. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 20:45, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::Hope admins don't change it incorrectly. xD [[User:CherryParanoia|CherryParanoia]] 22:59, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

== update ==

the oficial page make an update--[[User:Kyokencl|kyokencl]] 17:16, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

== HGSS US announment ==

Pokemon.com has announced HGSS for the US![[User:Evandeck|Evandeck]] 18:53, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/rr160/obi_wan_14/pokemonheartgold-1-1.jpg
::It has been announced for Spring 2010 in the US and Europe. Additionally, here are the logos that I pulled off the site. –[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 19:22, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
:::Could some1 add the release date for HGSS in the N. America section? And add the logos as well? [[User talk: ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']] 20:00, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Make that a png and transparentify it, then upload to Archives. We'll keep the Japanese boxart up until we get English ones, but this is good. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:28, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Sorry for the stupid question, but when exactly is Spring 2010 ([[User:GT4GTR|GT4GTR]] 12:59, 15 August 2009 (UTC))
:Nevermind, i had a mental blank. It's confusing living in the southern hemisphere trying to figure out when spring is in the North, lol.
::What are the chances it will be out in Australia before 2011? ([[User:GT4GTR|GT4GTR]] 13:03, 15 August 2009 (UTC))
:Around March, April, May, and early June in the US next year [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 13:01, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
::they are high [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 13:07, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
:::Hmmm, i've always thought they're terrible releasing the games here, but recently they haven't been too bad. The anime on the other hand... Battle Dimension's only just started airing here. it's a disgrace. I'm looking forward to this game. ([[User:GT4GTR|GT4GTR]] 13:10, 15 August 2009 (UTC))
::::It'll probably be released on the same year as the American release, just at a different date (possibly july or August)--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 13:14, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

== Pokémon Centers have a different design... ==

The Pokémon centers have a different design...I watch it in the promo-video of HeartGold and SoulSilver. Yeah. That's what i watched. The Pokémon centers have non-authomatic upstairs. Thanks for hear the higlight --Do you [[glitch|really have]] [[Missingno.|problems]]? Get this for your advice! [[File:Ani201GMS.png|link=PokéWTrainer]][[File:Ani201LMS.png|link=Acid rain]][[File:Ani201IMS.png|I|link=Missingno.]][[File:Ani201TMS.png|T|link=Surf glitch]][[File:Ani201CMS.png|C|link=DPBox]][[File:Ani201HMS.png|H|link=q]][[File:Ani201!MS.png|!|link= a]] Hope that a [[User:Poke nav|Pokénav]] [[glitch]] [[User talk:Poke nav|ocurr]] in [[Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions|HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions]]! 18:12, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

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== Pokemon by color... ==

On the protected page List of Pokemon by Color, Weepinbell has an extra }}. Only administrators can edit it, so I am asking for your help.[[User:GreenGyarados|Green]][[User Talk:GreenGyarados|Gyarados]]

== sandbox ==

ok, sorry, i only have problems to get the all the bars to the same size ...--[[User:Hanmac|Hanmac]]

PS: [[User:TTEchidna/TypeBased]] this user make this for me (→ Pokewiki), and now i does not need this anymore --[[User:Hanmac|Hanmac]]

== Okie ==

Okie. But that does not mean that we can't have the owners listed in the Pokemon SP page. Also, the list of Pokemon SP by Owner has to be updated as it lacks many cards. It's gonna take some time. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 15:23, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

== re: Anime voice actors ==
RE: your comment on my page of 19:31, 15 July 2009 (UTC) , I was not aware of the new regulations. THanks for calling me on them.--[[User:SupremeBlisseyFan|SupremeBlisseyFan]] 23:52, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

== Pages for deletion ==

I was just bringing promo cards etc. up to date and check other lists when I noticed that the Pokémon SP article has been updated to include the owner's names. I was about to update the List of Pokémon SP by Owner article, but this seems unecessary to keep now. Other articles not needed are the individual half deck pages that cover those already in the Trainer Kits (Latias/Latios, Plusle/Minun and Lucario/Manaphy half decks). All relevant info is in the Trainer Kit articles, plus more concise card lists. '''[[Surf (move)|~~]]''''''[[User:nuva-kal|nuva]]''''''-'''[[User_talk:nuva-kal|'''kal''']] 12:15, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

== Template:Move ==

why have you change my edit? --[[User:Hanmac|Hanmac]]

How to enlarge the charizard which is inside the infobox?

== What i do? ==

I only was rearranging the Pokedex entries to not be too much closer to the image of the pokemon. Why i was blocked? [[User:Mario136|Mario136]] 18:20, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

== Uh.... ==

Any particular reason you removed the link to Serebii.net from that talk page archive? It seems like a really random and needless thing to do. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 19:59, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

== About the thing i put on Eusine ==

Then should the one for Brendan be taken off, it says that he is holding a green pokéball.--[[User:Pokéboy93|Pokéboy93]] 23:53, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
:Thanks for telling me. Those sorts of trivia shouldn't be there, because they can obviously be seen when looking at the artwork. I promptly removed it. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 00:45, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

Help is appreciated. Also, I'm embarrassed. Heh. -- '''[[User:evkl|evkl]]''' [[User_talk:evkl|(need to talk?)]] 16:20, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
:I didn't know it either, I had to look it up. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 16:21, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

== Please !!! HElp Me ==

Hi Maverick, i need your help.
Actually i used to upload new pictures (with high/better quality) for old articles of bulbapedia such as EP099.
Yesterday, i uploaded a new image for EP099 article. That image was the screenshot from the deleted scene of EP099. I uploaded it because the previous image on the deleted scene section of the article was in low and poor quality. My new image was totally fine with nice quality and was 100% suitable for that section of the article. A user named J-J-M deleted my pic and said that it is not the part of deleted scene. I don't no what's wrong with him, i saw that episode again and it was the part of it (deleted scene) along with that he also deleted that pic and i can't undo now.
Please help me and suggest whether i re-upload the image or anything else.
I am really working hard in finding new images and he don't have any right to spoil my hard work.
I am sorry if i bothered you but please tell me what should i do now.
Thank you.
--♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 05:52, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
:This is on the Archives?--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[User talk:RexRacer|Racer''']] 06:24, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

On the archieves? i am talking about EP099 article on bulbapedia not bulba archieves.
I think he (J-J-M) deleted the pic from bulba archieves too.
--♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 06:26, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
:I'd be surprised to hear that J-J-M has power on the Archives. I'll take a look, though.--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[User talk:RexRacer|Racer''']] 06:32, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
::Issue fixed. You marked '''your''' upload with <nowiki>{{delete}}</nowiki> instead of the old pic. Your upload didn't show, because an admin deleted it because of the template. J-J-M was just reverting, because of the unshowing image. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<sc>Kogoro</sc>''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<sc>Talk to me</sc>''']] - 06:32, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

What??? Really but i marked the old one to delete.
Anyway, i am sorry for the trouble and thanks for helping me.
--♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 06:39, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

My parents thought this was a FORUM, but after I showed them, they said yes. It turned out that when they mean 'online communities' they actually mean 'Chatrooms or Forums'

== Uhhh (Reply) ==

Like I said (but forgot the subject/headline) my parents thought this was a FORUM, but after I showed them, they said yes. It turned out that when they mean 'online communities' they actually mean 'Chatrooms or Forums'

TokoyamiTheDark

What are you talking about?
--♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 05:24, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

I once said at my website [http://light.cvgrenier.com] that due to my parents, I wasn't allowed on communities. But when they meant 'communities' they actually meant 'FORUMS' or 'CHATROOMS'. When they saw that BulbaPedia was a Wikia, they said I can register, since it is not a forum or chatroom. Something VERY NASTY happened on a forum years ago as somebody asked for personal information... I alerted an Admin(who banned the guy) and my parents, who told me to immediatly leave the forum and never coming back. The forum was deleted but re-uploaded. ALL messages and users have been deleted, so I was happy with that.

== Turtwig ==

About you undoing my revision... I think it should be there. If we are doing the moves, why not the held item? --[[User:CuboneKing|CUBONE PWNS]] ([[User talk:CuboneKing|Planet Cubone]] • [[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|Bone Club]]) [[Talk:Pearl (game)|I have a headache...]] 00:38, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
:I haven't thought about what the style or wording should be, and i like to avoid putting non style things on pages. That is so other users don't see it, assume it is style, and start putting it on other pages, causing a ton of pages to have incorrect styles. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 00:40, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
::{{p|Psyduck|Could you reword that? It gave me a headache...}} --[[User:CuboneKing|CUBONE PWNS]] ([[User talk:CuboneKing|Planet Cubone]] • [[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|Bone Club]]) [[Talk:Pearl (game)|I have a headache...]] 01:03, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
:::Reword what? ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 01:59, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
::::What you just said. --[[User:CuboneKing|CUBONE PWNS]] ([[User talk:CuboneKing|Planet Cubone]] • [[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|Bone Club]]) [[Talk:Pearl (game)|I have a headache...]] 02:00, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::I don't want people to see an unapproved wording, assume that it actually is what we want, and start adding that wording to pages. It is so that we don't have to end up fixing a ton of pages down the road when i get around to it. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 02:14, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::Ohhhhh. Thanks. --[[User:CuboneKing|CUBONE]] ([[User talk:CuboneKing|Planet Cubone]] • [[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|Bone Club]]) [[Cubone (Pokémon)|PWNS]] 02:15, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

== Some TCG cards we might need... ==

[http://s728.photobucket.com/albums/ww282/smpratte/?action=view&current=Snapprizecardpage.jpg Here.] I've searched for articles on those, and I can't seem to find them. I have on good sources that the cards do, in fact, exist, but only a few sets were produced. If we could get someone translating those, that would be great. Any ideas? --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 20:56, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
:Check out [[Illustration contests#CoroCoro Pokémon Snap Contest]]. We've already got articles on those, because they were all reprints in Spring of 1999 in the {{TCG|Unnumbered Promotional cards}}. We've also got images of all of them too. Also, smpratte is a user here who I have been helping trying to figure out how to upload images, which, for some reason, hasn't been working for him. He has all the remaining promo cards we need, and also all the images we need bigger, better scans of. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 21:12, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

== Regarding Those Images ==

If you haven't already got rid of them, feel free to do so. Sorry if this is too late of a reply. :P --[[User:Moisesmorales|'''''Moises''''']][[User talk:Moisesmorales|'''''morales''''']] [[User:Moisesmorales/TGC Contest|'''''δ''''']] 08:36, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

== Pokégym Research Tower ==

Thanks to [http://www.pokegym.net/tower/ the Pokégym Research Tower], I was able to find enough scans to complete the {{TCG|Supreme Victors}} set list beyond almost any shadow of a doubt. The only scan they're currently missing is retro Zapdos, which can easily be placed in the list. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 15:29, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

== Prerelease ==

I don't agree with your on their predictability. The sets are almost completely predictable; especially on the rares cards. But since you are Leader, I shall obey your every command. - [[User:Plau|plau]] 16:16, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

== Sorry ==

I understand... I realize I'm getting a little wrapped up...--[[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|Leaving]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|Soon,]][[User:Dragonbeastx|Dragonbeastx...]] 23:15, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

== Project TCGDex ==

OK, OK, I promise I won't edit attack names in the origins! You have my word! What just happened was merely a slip of the mind, a brain fart if you may. Anything to avoid getting kicked out! --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 04:49, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::I'm quite surprised. And extremely disappointed it had to resort to that. I had a notice full of quotations and research and all sorts of things; and then I got a new messages in the preview. And then an edit conflict with a new message I have a hard time believing. Just to make sure, this talk page edit will be linked in the top box. Remember, I'm always watching the cards. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 04:59, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

::Yeah, I kind of forgot I'd made that prior promise to begin with for a second when I made those edits. Sorry to have made a spectacle of things in the history. Trust me, I'll make things right and things'll be as good as if this incident never happened. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 05:03, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

== Unsatisfactory, WHY ?????? ==

Hey nate, can you please tell me why my new uploaded pictures are in unsatisfactory.
I don't think there is any problem in them. Yesterday i uploaded two images [[Mariah (Johto)]] & [[Trixie]] and both are in nice quality and there was no any reason given in unsatisfactory tag.
Please check those images and tell me if there is any problem. This is my kind request.
Why J-J-M put that unsatisfactory tag on those images?
--♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 06:10, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
:Both of them are too small and jpeg. But J-J-M still needs to learn to explain himself... --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 06:31, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Oh.
I will re-upload them in png but sorry kenji i don't have those images in large size.
--♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 06:36, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
:They really need to be larger, otherwise you can't remove the bad picture template. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 06:40, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

I will try my best.
--♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 06:42, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

==Since you asked==
Uh. I didn't ask anything. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 01:19, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
:It was {{u|Darknesslover5000}} who asked the question. A question that doesn't help the article and should be asked on the forums. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 01:28, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

== ... ==

Uh..thx?--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 01:38, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

== Giratina ==

Why'd you revert my edit on Reverse World's Giratina? I honestly think that Trivia is interesting, because on the card Will-O-Wisp is more powerful than Shadow Force... yet in the games, it's vice-versa. --[[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 03:26, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

== Talk:Azure Flute ==

Talk pages are for the content of the article, not about the subject of it. That page is clearly forum stuff. --[[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 04:04, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
:It is asking a question that, when an answer is given, it WILL help the article. I'm getting sick and tired of people removing legitimate questions from talk pages just because they don't want to deal with what the person is asking. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 04:07, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

== thx 4 the advice ==

...{{unsigned|Gen1king}}

== Heizeus ==

I'm somewhat confused, what exactly did he do? As far as I can see, he joined a few projects and made a userpage. Unless those coded messages on his userpage were insults and stuff? And even then, wouldn't that just merit a warning on his talkpage? [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 02:24, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
:They were exceptionally inappropriate. -- '''[[User:evkl|evkl]]''' [[User_talk:evkl|(need to talk?)]] 02:26, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
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== The Two images ==

Are the recently i uploaded and another...i don't remember wich. So, delete the 2 others. --[[User:Poke nav|Poke nav]] 20:05, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Bulbapedia talk:Project Anime/Archive 1

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I'd be happy to help out with Project Anime. I'm not very good at writing synopses, but I'll be able to create the character lists for many episodes from Master Quest through Advanced Battle, as well as some Orange Islands episodes and a few Johto Journies episodes. I can also put in errors and dub edits for the episodes. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] 23:50, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm also interested in participating in this project. Specifically, I was wondering if we could add for each episode a "Notes" and "References to past canon" section, similar to the format that the Battlestar Wiki [http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/33 episode guides] have. Other than that, I'm more than willing to provide the usual episode summaries and screenshots. --[[User:Swifty|Swifty]] 13:07, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

I'd be okay, since I can predict when this episode is going to air in the U.S, and I might be right, when I see the episode air, I'll put the actual date in. --[[User:NeverReturn|NeverReturn]]
16:33, 27 February 2007 (GMT)
:Please avoid all predictions or speculative information. Just because you "might be" right doesn't mean you are, unfortunately, and until we are certain of the real date it's best to have no date at all. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] ~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]] 22:58, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

What am I gonna do? --[[User:NeverReturn|NeverReturn]]
16:33, 27 February 2007 (GMT)
:If you want to know what you can do to help this project, I can whip up a to-do list in a while. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] ~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]] 23:08, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Darn it! --[[User:NeverReturn|NeverReturn]]
16:33, 27 February 2007 (GMT)

I'd like to help as well. I've already done a few synopsis sections in the original series. --[[User:Farfetch'd|Dux]]
16:16, 2 January 2008 (GMT)

== Synopsis ==
Okay, after the lack of reformatting on one tipped me off, I'm noting that there are several articles which had the same summary as can be found on Serebii.net. However, they are apparently being credited to Altomare Latias. Do we have permission to use this work? (Even if we do, they need editing - they came up because the @#$@#()% things don't use the é in Pokémon...) --[[User:Pie|Pie]] ~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]] 01:01, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm going to start adding synopses and any other information I can fill in; I've just started watching the series recently, and am only up to Episode 6, ''[[EP006|Clefairy and the Moon Stone]]'', for which I just finished the synopsis. -- [[User:DrGaellon|DrGaellon]] ([[User talk:DrGaellon|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/DrGaellon|contribs]]) 19:20, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

== Quotes ==
I just had an idea... maybe a Quotes section should be added to episode articles, split into subsection for English and Japanese? Sort of like what Pokemopolis has for their episode guides, except with quotes that are significant for any reason, not just for dodginess. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] ~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]] 16:52, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

== Pokemon anime section ==

I would also like to help with this. I could do a Pokemon featured in this episode and battles section. You know like a list of Pokemon used in the episode and the moves and pokemon used in various battles. Unsigned comment by {{u|Slyraccoon007}}
:We already have a list of the Pokémon in the episode. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 21:46, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Well I guess I could do the battles and maybe some synopsises. By slyraccoon007 Could you send me a to do list aswell.

== Timeline of events notice ==

See the template I added to [[EP001#Major events|episode 1]]. Yes, this is partially to give the users more exposure to that article, since I noticed only a few articles link to it when it's relevant to pretty much all anime articles. Anyway, thoughts or comments on the template, before I add it to more articles and find that everyone hates it or something? --[[User:Pie|Pie]] ~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]] 19:01, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
:Hmm, I definitely don't hate it, but do you think it's worth the time to put it in on all the articles? The important events for that particular episode are listed there, where they should be. Is it necessary to see all the other events too? --[[User:Greengiant|Greengiant]] 19:45, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
::Well, the idea is that if someone wants the information of the major events of many different episodes, but doesn't know about the timeline, that's the section they'll be looking in for all episode articles. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] ~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]] 22:54, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

==Shortcut Templates==
I created a couple of templates to make typing synopses easier:
*<nowiki>{{AP|Pokémon}}</nowiki> creates a link to Ash's Pokémon, but only shows the Pokémon's name: <nowiki>[[Ash's Pokémon|Pokémon]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>{{BrockP|Pokémon}}</nowiki> does the same thing for Brock
*<nowiki>{{MistyP|Pokémon}}</nowiki> does the same thing for Misty
*<nowiki>{{TP|Trainer|Pokémon}}</nowiki> does the same thing for any trainer: <nowiki>[[Trainer's Pokémon|Pokémon]]</nowiki>
*<nowiki>{{MTR}}</nowiki> is a shortcut to <nowiki>[[Meowth (Team Rocket)|Meowth]]</nowiki>: {{MTR}}
I generally prefer to subst: shortcut templates like these; that way, the final code saved in the wiki is unambiguous.
:::--[[User:DrGaellon|DrGaellon]] ([[User talk:DrGaellon|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/DrGaellon|contribs]]) 04:41, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

== I think this Project needs to include more articles. ==

Well, there is no project that has goal on the anime characters, (like [[Ash Ketchum]]) so I think this project should also help on the articles about the pokémon characters, and their pokémon's pages (like [[Ash's Charizard]]), that would make this project so much more useful. I can't see any reason why it should only focus on the episode articles. After all, it's Project Anime, not Project Episodes. What do you guys think about that idea? [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 15:51, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

== Anime Definitions ==
Should we add anime definitions of [[Pokémon]] and moves? I mean the [[Pokédex]] has identifyed almost every Pokémon and in some epiosdes Brock or someone else identifyed moves. --[[User:Theryguy512|Ryguy]].

== I got an idea for the character pages. ==

Attack used should also include the first use of the move. I will make a fake profile for "Darklord's Rayquaza" just to give you an example:

===Moves used===

* {{m|Fly}}
First used: [[epNE|The hell of heaven]] in that episode Darklord noticed that he didn't need a helicopter and could just use Rayquaza to fly.

*{{m|Hyper Beam}}
First used: [[epNE|Strong training is a good one]] It trained for 2 episodes, in this one he get's it when he beats the class.

*{{m|ExtremeSpeed}}
First used: [[epNE|Wow, that's fast]] Rayquaza noticed it can go so fast, in that episode the Rayquaza went extremely fast after Felk's Fearow.

===Back to the discussion===
So what do you guys think? Would that work? [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 22:49, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Great idea!!! [[User:Misty-may-dawn rulz|Misty-may-dawn rulz]] 08:15, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

==How to help==

HI!I'd like to help, how can I?--[[Image:May.png|30px]][[User:Haruka uzumaki|Haruka]] [[User talk:Haruka uzumaki|uzumaki]] [[Image:Ani038MS.gif|32px]] 01:03, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Can I help too?--[[User:Dawnfan47|Dawnfan47]] 20:16, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[[Image:Spr 3e 370.gif]]

I like to help too. I've already wrote the synopsis for some episodes. [[Image:Ani448MS.gif]][[User:Jmath|'''Jmath''']][[Image:Ani447MS.gif]][[User talk:Jmath|'''Talk''']][[Image:Ani448MS.gif]] 20:27, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

== Broadcast date ==

Don't you think that placing the broadcasted date in the first paragraph is kind of redundant because in the infobox of each episode, it says it right under the picture [[user:Moldy orange|Moldy orange]]

== www.serebii.net ==

May we use the synopsis provided by Serebii? [[User:Misty-may-dawn rulz|Misty-may-dawn rulz]] 08:18, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
:No, because that would be copying someone else's hard work. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 10:58, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
::But most of the pages have exactly the same synopsis as in Serebii, especially the movies! If you don't believe me, then compare the two for yourself. :'''[[User:Misty-may-dawn rulz|Misty-May-Dawn]] [[User talk:Misty-may-dawn rulz|rulz]]''' 06:19, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Then they should be rewritten, I have noticed more than once synopsis copied from somewhere else being removed from here. Just because most articles have something doesn't make it right. Likewise, just because many people believe something is right doesn't make it so.[[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 07:55, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
::::I do believe you, but I also know that copying someone else's work without permission is not alright. That's exactly why there is an FBI warning on each DVD. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 08:02, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::ok, ok, I understand... :'''[[User:Misty-may-dawn rulz|Misty-May-Dawn]] [[User talk:Misty-may-dawn rulz|rulz]]''' 10:02, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::Some of the summaries on this site were given to both Bulbapedia and Serebii to use. (For example, the summaries Altomare Latios did around the Master Quest era. The movie ones also fall under this, though they are far too large for our purposes.) However, we must not take any other synopsis without the writer's permission and Serebii does put a disclaimer to not copy from his site. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 09:57, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::I promised you all that I am not going to copy Serebii's synopsis. I mean to keep my promise, so don't worry. '''[[User:Misty-may-dawn rulz|Misty-May-Dawn]] [[User talk:Misty-may-dawn rulz|rulz]]''' 10:07, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::::I just wanted to make sure the situation was clear for everyone, especially concerning the ones that are the same. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 10:12, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

== Project Anime ==

I would like to sign up for this project please, and on the main article it said I should enquire on the talk page.
[[User:Jen The Ren|Jen The Ren]] 17:27, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

== Battle Dimension Synopses ==

Can I do some of the synopses of Battle Dimension?
I'm writing them for my website anyway so it wouldn't be too much trouble. [[User:Rpp|Rpp]] 22:21, 30 August 2008 (UTC)Rpp
:Do you really need to ask? if there isn't a synopsis, feel free to write one for the episode! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 22:29, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
I just want to be an official member of Project Anime. That's why I asked. [[User:Rpp|Rpp]] 02:13, 1 September 2008 (UTC)Rpp
::Why do people think they need to ask to join? Just put your name on the list. But you don't even have to be part of the project to contribute! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 02:25, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

I already did for Rpp, so thank me--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 02:25, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
:What if I don't feel like thanking you? ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 02:27, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Directed towards user who requested--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 02:28, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Lol. I could watch this go on but thank you. [[User:Rpp|Rpp]] 00:20, 3 September 2008 (UTC)Rpp

== Paragrahs ==

I've been noticing that a lot of anime episode articles have long paragraphs in the Synopsis and I find it pretty uncomfortable. Shouldn't there be put a limit on how long a paragraph can be in each episode article? Each paragraph should take short time to read, but really I've seen too many episode articles with long paragraphs. What I suggest is a limit, I suggest a limit to how long each paragraph in episode articles can be, what do you guys think? [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 22:57, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
:Ther is no limit on Paragraphs written in books and English, The problem here is that so few of them are written well... the ones that are written well have an adequate paragraph length. It is the ones that need revized anyway that poae the problem, but when they are revised for actual content, they can have the paragraph length reduced. It isn't something we can really pose a limit on. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 23:01, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

== hello ==

Hello, i am Poke nav. I want to comprise of this project and
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i am native speaker of Spanish and En-2 speaker, and please help me with the idiom!!!

--[[User:Poke nav|Poke nav]] 21:22, 3 November 2008 (UTC) [[Image:Sparky new.png|Pikachu!!]]

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Welcome to my userpage, I'm TTEchidna. I've been a member of Bulbapedia since mid-2006, and since then have made over twenty thousand contribs. I'm... now Mr. Super In Charge Guy. Please... come to me with your problems.

Just don't forget the rest of the [[Special:Listusers/sysop|administrators]], unless it's with the site. Then just cool it for a while and wait to see if it fixes itself. Constant refreshes will not fix it, nor will complaining that it's down for three minutes. Once it gets above three hours then worry. Because I will. And. Um. I'll be able to bug Archaic or something about it.




==Psychos==
These are essentially my ultimate team of legendaries, without which I never have them on my teams. It's because of these guys that I'm always excited about a new generation of Pokémon: there's ALWAYS something new I can make into a Psycho.

In the beginning, there was just Psycho, my Mewtwo that I caught (luckily) in a Great Ball in {{g|Red}} after not saving before the challenge. So I got off the hook there. Whew. After that, Psycho went on to be my main team member during my battles in [[Pokémon Stadium (English)|Pokémon Stadium]], but his speed just could not match [[Blue (game)|Blue]]'s {{p|Jolteon}}'s, and he fell many times. This was, of course, inevitably, my first encounter with EVs. I fought over and over, mostly to get the prize Pokémon, and soon enough, surprisingly, Psycho was faster. He had become the ultimate fighter.

By this time, of course, [[Generation II]] had been announced, and I was eagerly awaiting the time at which I would get my own copy of {{g|Gold}}, and then would start with {{p|Cyndaquil}}. Due to the fact that despite having advanced knowledge of [[alternate coloration|shiny Pokémon]], I had not even thought to look over the move lists of the new Pokémon, I did not ever anticipate any more Psychos.

...but then I played. I got the female Cyndaquil that I wanted on my first try and named her Cyndi Quil as I had planned. I beat the game. I beat Kanto.

And then... I went to the [[Whirl Islands]]. Not only did I hate it (I needed {{HM|05|Flash}} '''and''' {{HM|06|Whirlpool}}, talk about useless moves!), but the whole damn underground/underwater caves were confusing. But however I did it, I finally managed to find Lugia. And man, his battle proved to be just as tough as Mewtwo's. Because I knew that the TCG had a set, known as the ''Neo'' set, on its way out, I named him for it, and thus Neo Psycho was Psycho's counterpart.

But then, well, I went a bit overkill with a [[GameShark]], attempting to cheat and win the [[Bug-Catching Contest]] by catching sharked shiny {{p|Scizor}}. Neo was the one that went with me, while the other five stayed. Needless to say, the Scizor remained in my party instead of going to boxes, and when the contest ended, I was returned my Pokémon, which all morphed into the Scizor and became shiny. Psycho was now a shiny Mewtwo with a Scizor's moves, and a {{p|Ho-Oh}} that we had gotten through a trade, known as Hot, was also destroyed. Sadly, my brother's starter {{p|Feraligatr}} was lost as well.

But truly, while we could have just turned off the game... saving it was one of the best things we did. To help the now not-as-good Psycho and Neo Psycho, we brought out my brother's Ho-Oh and it became Hot Psycho. Eventually, over the rest of Generation II, more and more Pokémon became Psychos thanks to the [[Earl]]'s [[Pokémon Academy]] feature of [[Pokémon Stadium 2]].

Then [[Generation III]] came along. More were added to the list of potential Psychos. However, I was a bit put off from the fact that only one of the most powerful Pokémon of the generation was Psychic, and extremely put off when I couldn't trade ahead. Generation III was a dark time for the Psychos. However, since I had no idea we'd ever get FRLG, I brought out EverPsycho, who was the combination of the best of Psycho and Neo Psycho, and NovaPsycho, who was the best that Psychic/Dragon offers... well, to me. And then, of course, we got FireRed, LeafGreen, Colosseum, and XD, and so finally all of the Psychos could get into Gen III.

...then I cheated and got Deoxys. Shh. They never gave away the ticket.

So then, we get Gen IV coming along. I look among the Pokémon and see that we get a TM that acts like {{m|Recover}}. Holy crap. Immediately, {{p|Noctowl}} becomes my next plan, as do several others. But of course, as with previous generations, the most powerful legendaries are able to meet my requirements, even {{p|Arceus}}.

Now, though, I'm looking ahead, perhaps to see if the TRUE Neo Psycho, which I'd have to catch in the Whirl Islands, will return... But that's only if we get a [[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS]]...

And hey, look. The German translation of the games made me an icon: http://www.pokewiki.de/images/c/c2/PsychoIC.png

===List of Psychos===
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| align="center" | [[Image:150.png]] [[Image:GreatBallSpriteSmall.png]] {{p2|Mewtwo|Psycho}} {{ic|Psychic}}
| align="center" | {{m|Psychic}} {{m|Swift}} {{m|Recover}} {{m|Thunderbolt}}
| In [[Mewtwo Strikes Back|the First Movie]], [[Mewtwo (anime)|Mewtwo]] went completely insane.
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! rowspan="8" | [[Generation II|II]]
| align="center" | [[Image:249.png]] [[Image:UltraBallSpriteSmall.png]] {{p2|Lugia|Neo Psycho}} {{ic|Psychic}} {{ic|Flying}}
| align="center" | {{m|Psycho Boost}} {{m|Aeroblast}} {{m|Recover}} {{m|Surf}}
| Originally just to be the Generation II representation of Psycho, with all of the same moves, Neo was named after the upcoming {{TCG|Neo Genesis}} expansion of the {{g|Trading Card Game}}. He soon, however, became his own force, with Aeroblast and the always-awesome Surf.
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| align="center" | [[Image:250.png]] [[Image:UltraBallSpriteSmall.png]] {{p2|Ho-Oh|Hot Psycho}} {{ic|Fire}} {{ic|Flying}}
| align="center" | {{m|Psychic}} {{m|AncientPower}} {{m|Recover}} {{m|Sacred Fire}}
| After what my brother and I term the "GameShark incident", in which we lost the real Psycho and a Ho-Oh named Hot, we decided to add Ho-Oh to the Psychos. This one, of course, was known as Hot Psycho, in memory of Hot, as well as because fire is hot.
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| align="center" | [[Image:196.png]] [[Image:PokeBallSpriteSmall.png]] {{p2|Espeon|ESP Psycho}} <big>♂</big> {{ic|Psychic}}
| align="center" | {{m|Psychic}} {{m|Shadow Ball}} {{m|Morning Sun}} {{m|Swift}}
| The first non-legendary Psycho, as well as the first Psycho with a gender, ESP Psycho was a break from the traditional Psychos in the name of making up for Psycho's lessened power. It also was the first Psycho to take advantage of the then newly-introduced {{m|Shadow Ball}}. It was named for what Espeon was named for: Extrasensory perception.
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| align="center" | [[Image:251.png]] [[Image:PokeBallSpriteSmall.png]] {{p2|Celebi|Era Psycho}} {{ic|Psychic}} {{ic|Grass}}
| align="center" | {{m|Psychic}} {{m|Giga Drain}} {{m|Recover}} {{m|AncientPower}}
| Era Psycho became a Psycho to add more types to the team. It was named for the eras that Celebi travels across.
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| align="center" | [[Image:151.png]] [[Image:PokeBallSpriteSmall.png]] {{p2|Mew|MiniPsycho}} {{ic|Psychic}}
| align="center" | {{m|Psychic}} {{m|Transform}} {{m|Softboiled}} {{m|Thunderbolt}}
| Mew became a Psycho mostly because of its connection to Mewtwo. Its name comes from the fact that it is essentially a smaller version of Psycho.
|-
| align="center" | [[Image:197.png]] [[Image:PokeBallSpriteSmall.png]] {{p2|Umbreon|Fox Psycho}} <big>♂</big> {{ic|Dark}}
| align="center" | {{m|Psychic}} {{m|Faint Attack}} {{m|Moonlight}} {{m|Shadow Ball}}
| Fox Psycho brought more types into the fray, however, I never used it much. It just took up space in Gen II. Perhaps I'll try to raise a new version in Gen IV. The name comes from a fox, which Umbreon seems to be based on.
|-
| align="center" | [[Image:065.png]] [[Image:UltraBallSpriteSmall.png]] {{p2|Alakazam|Psy Psycho}} <big>♂</big> {{ic|Psychic}}
| align="center" | {{m|Psychic}} {{m|Future Sight}} {{m|Recover}} {{m|Psybeam}}
| Psy Psycho was essentially my way of including more non-legendaries so that even if I faced someone who didn't want me to use them, I could still use the Psychos. The name comes from Psychic.
|-
| align="center" | [[Image:474.png]] [[Image:PokeBallSpriteSmall.png]] {{p2|Porygon-Z|V/R Psycho}} {{ic|Normal}}
| align="center" | {{m|Psychic}} {{m|Tri Attack}} {{m|Recover}} {{m|Thunderbolt}}
| V/R Psycho was another of my "get non-legendaries on here" selections, as a Porygon2 in Generation II. However, he... wasn't so good. When Generation IV came along, however, V/R Psycho was able to evolve into a Porygon-Z, and through this, became a whole lot better. The name comes from virtual reality.
|-
! rowspan="4" | [[Generation III|III]]
| align="center" | [[Image:381.png]] [[Image:UltraBallSpriteSmall.png]] {{p2|Latios|EverPsycho}} <big>♂</big> {{ic|Dragon}} {{ic|Psychic}}
| align="center" | {{m|Psychic}} {{m|Surf}} {{m|Recover}} {{m|Thunderbolt}}
| EverPsycho was set up to be the essential replacement of Psycho and Neo Psycho, being that neither could be transferred forward from Generation II. His name comes from "forever", since an eon is quite nearer to that than anything.
|-
| align="center" | [[Image:380.png]] [[Image:TimerBallSpriteSmall.png]] {{p2|Latias|NovaPsycho}} <big>♀</big> {{ic|Dragon}} {{ic|Psychic}}
| align="center" | {{m|Psychic}} {{m|SolarBeam}} {{m|Recover}} {{m|Dragon Pulse}}
| NovaPsycho is the new Psycho of this generation, and as such her name reflects it. She also has the honor of being the first female Psycho.
|-
| align="center" | [[Image:385.png]] [[Image:PokeBallSpriteSmall.png]] {{p2|Jirachi|Zeo Psycho}} {{ic|Steel}} {{ic|Psychic}}
| align="center" | {{m|Psychic}} {{m|Doom Desire}} {{m|Recover}} {{m|Future Sight}}
| Zeo Psycho's the only one of the Psychos that I never actually named. Its name comes from a joke involving Jirachi's Sapphire [[Pokédex]] entry, which states that one must sing to it in a voice of purity, with Purity being one of the webmasters of [[Pokémon Zeo!]].
|-
| align="center" | [[Image:386E.png]] [[Image:MasterBallSpriteSmall.png]] {{p2|Deoxys|DNA Psycho}} {{ic|Psychic}}
| align="center" | {{m|Psycho Boost}} {{m|ExtremeSpeed}} {{m|Recover}} {{m|Zap Cannon}}
| DNA Psycho is the one Psycho I hate training. Not only is the thing disobedient (damn you Game Freak for catching we who cheat), but the moves it learns SUCK. You need a load of TMs to make that thing good. But it's DNA Psycho nonetheless.
|-
! rowspan="3" | [[Generation IV|IV]]
| align="center" | [[Image:488.png]] [[Image:UltraBallSpriteSmall.png]] {{p2|Cresselia|LunaPsycho}} <big>♀</big> {{ic|Psychic}}
| align="center" | {{m|Psychic}} {{m|Ice Beam}} {{m|Moonlight}} {{m|Energy Ball}}
| Luna was the first of the Generation IV Psychos I knew would undoubtedly exist. She was also the first one that I didn't even need to think about the name of, unlike Ever and Nova, which both took weeks of internal debates with myself over what to call them.
|-
| align="center" | [[Image:430.png]] [[Image:DuskBallSpriteSmall.png]] {{p2|Honchkrow|Mob Psycho}} <big>♂</big> {{ic|Dark}} {{ic|Flying}}
| align="center" | {{m|Psychic}} {{m|Hyper Beam}} {{m|Roost}} {{m|Dark Pulse}}
| For the longest time, I've wanted to use Murkrow competitively, and finally with its evolution in Generation IV, I can. Not only did I use my other Honchkrow in the first battle I had with the [[Elite Four]], but I keep using it in {{g|Battle Revolution}}. Currently, Mob Psycho is in the process of being trained.
|-
| align="center" | [[Image:036.png]] [[Image:PokeBallSpriteSmall.png]] {{p2|Clefable|PinkPsycho}} <big>♀</big> {{ic|Normal}}
| align="center" | {{m|Psychic}} {{m|Flamethrower}} {{m|Softboiled}} {{m|Metronome}}
| Ah, yes, the fairy joins the Psychos. And it's about time, too. I know these things can have Moonlight, but Softboiled just has more PP and does the same thing most often. Currently, PinkPsycho is in the process of being trained.
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==Shinies==
You know you all wanted them from the moment you knew of them. I was no different. Researching Gold and Silver on the internet before they came out here told me of the mysterious "red Gyarados that has three pluses by its gender on the status screen and that sparkles when coming from its ball". So I was of course intrigued. Then someone announces that they've found an Oddish that's green and has gold-colored leaves. It has the same [[Image:ShinyGSStars.png]] that the Gyarados has. That was the first shiny I heard about.

And so I waited eagerly for GS. I hoped I could get so lucky as to get a Pokémon like that.

First few days of playing, it was great. I started with a female Cyndaquil, which I got on the first try, and began a trek across Johto. I got stuck, however, in Union Cave. It was like... pow. Couldn't figure out where to go. So I'm going out, yet again, to heal my Pokémon after making it halfway in. As I'm about five steps from the exit, suddenly, a wild Pokémon appears.

Ch-ch-ch-ch-ching. Shiny Sandshrew, female. I ''had'' to get it. I was worried I'd lose it, and I'd never have another chance at it. But I caught it. Lucky that I picked up some Great Balls around beforehand, eh?

So of course I'm thrilled to have this Sandshrew. She becomes a Sandslash soon enough, and I got the Gyarados, too. I got Stadium 2, but mostly Psycho and Neo Psycho dominated. Then I see a Dragonite use Outrage. It's the coolest move ever and so I use the Earl's Pokémon Academy feature to see who can learn it. Well, of course, I see that Charizard can because of Dragonite. So I set out to get a Charmander with Outrage. Female Charizard and male Dragonite in the daycare, I'm ready to hatch my first egg. And I do. It's a baby Charmander, and I name him Outrageous. Then I look at his status screen to make sure he has Outrage. He does, but I notice something odd... He has the three stars. "But that means he's shiny" I think... since the colors are so close, I decide to send him into battle (but make sure he doesn't get experience) to be sure.

Holy crap, he's shiny. I have a shiny Charmander! I use him in the Little Cup for a short while, realizing soon that he's just not working out. I decide to take him up a notch... to the Poké Cup. He becomes Charmeleon, then Charizard. And wins me some.

Meanwhile, though, I'm busy goofing off in Victory Road. No idea why. Maybe I was training... I forget. Anyway, I'm in the final room, and out of nowhere, a Golbat appears.

And it's shiny too! So I'm thrilled. Third shiny. I catch it without much difficulty and evolve it into a Crobat.

And then... I go into a drought. No shinies in Ruby. FireRed makes me angry because of that DAMN Espeon in the Trainer Tower, and Emerald offers nothing either.

DP doesn't help. I still have no shinies... of my own. I traded for all of 'em.

But my goal if there is a GSDS is to spend as long as it takes in Union Cave to get another shiny female Sandshrew.

==Interesting...==
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| colspan="2" | {{#expr: (({{#time: U}} - {{#time: U|April 22, 2007}} - ({{#time: U}} - {{#time: U|April 22, 2007}}) mod 86400)) div 86400}}
| N/A
|- align="center"
! Days between
| N/A
| colspan="2" | {{#expr: {{#expr: (({{#time: U}} - {{#time: U|September 1, 1998}} - ({{#time: U}} - {{#time: U|September 1, 1998}}) mod 86400)) div 86400}} - {{#expr: (({{#time: U}} - {{#time: U|October 15, 2000}} - ({{#time: U}} - {{#time: U|October 15, 2000}}) mod 86400)) div 86400}}}}
| colspan="2" | {{#expr: {{#expr: (({{#time: U}} - {{#time: U|October 15, 2000}} - ({{#time: U}} - {{#time: U|October 15, 2000}}) mod 86400)) div 86400}} - {{#expr: (({{#time: U}} - {{#time: U|March 17, 2003}} - ({{#time: U}} - {{#time: U|March 17, 2003}}) mod 86400)) div 86400}}}}
| colspan="2" | {{#expr: {{#expr: (({{#time: U}} - {{#time: U|March 17, 2003}} - ({{#time: U}} - {{#time: U|March 17, 2003}}) mod 86400)) div 86400}} - {{#expr: (({{#time: U}} - {{#time: U|April 22, 2007}} - ({{#time: U}} - {{#time: U|April 22, 2007}}) mod 86400)) div 86400}}}}
| colspan="2" | {{#expr: (({{#time: U}} - {{#time: U|April 22, 2007}} - ({{#time: U}} - {{#time: U|April 22, 2007}}) mod 86400)) div 86400}}
|}

Apparently, the gap between Gen II and III is the shortest. Why we thought Johto lasted forever... oh wait. Fillers. Augh.

===We're all DOOMED===
Only {{formatnum:{{#expr: {{#time: U|January 19 2038 03:14:08 UTC}} - {{#time: U}} + 1}}}} seconds until all of our computers crash!

By the way, that's exactly {{#expr: {{#time: Y|January 19 2038 03:14:08 UTC}} - {{#time: Y}} {{#ifexpr: {{#time: z}} > {{#time: z|January 19 2038 03:14:08 UTC}}|- 1}}}} years, {{#expr: 13 - {{#time: m}} {{#ifexpr: {{#time: j}} > {{#time: j|January 19 2038 03:14:08 UTC}}|- 1}}}} months, {{#ifexpr: {{#time: j}} > {{#time: j|January 19 2038 03:14:08 UTC}}|
{{#expr: {{#expr: {{#switch: {{#time: m}}|1=28|2|4|6|7|9|11|12=31|3|5|8|10=30}} {{#ifexpr: {{#time: m}} = 2|+ {{#time:L}}}}}} - ({{#time: j}} - 19)}}|{{#expr: 19 - {{#time: j}}}}}} days, {{#ifexpr: {{#time: h}} > 3|{{#expr: 24 - {{#expr: {{#time: h}} - 3}}}}|{{#expr: 3 - {{#time: h}}}}}} hours, {{#ifexpr: {{#time: i}} > 14|{{#expr: 60 - {{#expr: {{#time: i}} - 14}}}}|{{#expr: 14 - {{#time: i}}}}}} minutes, {{#expr: {{#expr: {{#time: U|January 19 2038 03:14:08 UTC}} - {{#time: U}} + 1}} mod 60}} seconds... enjoy it while it lasts!

{{#time: F j, Y "at" h:i:s A|January 19 2038 03:14:08 UTC}}... Unix time rolls over to {{#time: U|January 19 2038 03:14:08 UTC}}... setting it negative and therefore back to the 1900's. Will we fix it in time?

We'd better!

==Ending section==
And still with all of that, my userboxes take up a bigger length... I have WAY too many. Ah well, the important contact information is below. And now with the expandable/collapsible sections... they can all VANISH!

===And now for something completely different...===
FICTONIAN TIME!
{|
! Place
! Day of year
! Month
! Day
! Year
! Hour
! Minute
! Second
! AM/PM
|- align="center"
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| {{#time: j|- 6 hours}}
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| {{#expr: {{#time: Y}} + 2929}}NE
| {{#expr: ({{#time: G|- 6 hours}} + 18) mod 12}}
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| {{#expr: floor(({{#time: U|- 6 hours}} mod 60) * 100/60)}}
|}
 
Isn't it great?

==Contact info==
For just in case you REALLY want to talk to me:
* AIM: TTFutureEchidna
* Email: [[Special:Emailuser/TTEchidna|Right here, man.]]

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Sparky

2008-11-03T02:16:58Z

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: ''If you were looking for the Jolteon trainer, see [[Eevee brothers#Sparky|Eevee brothers]].''
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{{AnimePokémonInfobox|
nickname=Sparky|
jnickname=レオン|
tmnickname=Leon|
image=[[Image:SparkyRitchie.jpg|190px]] |
caption=Sparky and Ritchie |
epnum=EP078|
pokemonname=Pikachu|
epname=A Friend in Deed|
prevonum=025|
current=[[Party|With Ritchie]]|
java1=[[Satomi Kōrogi]]|
}}
[[Image:Sparky new.png|thumb|80x80px|Sparky new sprite.]]
[[Image:Sparky Sprite.png|thumb|80x80px|Sparky Pt sprite.]]
'''Sparky''' (Japanese: '''レオン''' ''Leon'', '''ヒロシのピカチュウ''' ''Hiroshi's Pikachu'') is [[Ritchie]]'s main [[Pokémon]], a Pikachu, even though it was not the first of his Pokémon introduced. It is distinguished from other Pikachu by a scruff of hair on the top of its head. This was most likely done to distinguish it from Ash's Pikachu, to avoid confusion when they were in the same scene. It is voiced by ''[[Satomi Kōrogi]]'' in both Japanese and English.

Prior to meeting {{Ash}}, Ritchie had always kept Sparky in a [[Poké Ball]] just like his other Pokémon, but as seen in later episodes, Sparky has always been outside of its ball. It is unclear whether Sparky or [[Zippo]] was Ritchie's [[starter Pokémon|first Pokémon]].

==Moves used==
* {{m|Agility}}
* {{m|Thunderbolt}}
* {{m|Thunder}}
* {{m|Quick Attack}}
[[Image:AFriendinDeed.gif|thumb|left|[[Ash's Pikachu]] with Sparky.]]

==Trivia==
*When participating in a [[Pokémon Super Contest]], one of the opposing coordinators players may face named Luis will have a Pikachu named Sparky.
* In the English version of [[Electric Tale of Pikachu]] manga, he is named Chuchino instead of Sparky.

==Related articles==
{{Animespecies|Pikachu}}
 
{{Ritchie's Pokémon}}
[[Category:Ritchie's Pokémon]]

[[fr:Sparky]]
[[ja:レオン]]

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2008-11-03T01:07:42Z

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