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Talk:First partner Pokémon/Archive 1

2013-09-05T17:32:17Z

Pocketfanmk: /* Kanto Starters for X and Y */

==Normal Starters==
Should Pikachu be considered a 'normal' starter? I mean, it isn't part of the Fire/Water/Grass triangle, and it can also be captured in the wild in many of the other games, something that no other starters have right now. It's also the starter only in one game (although, so have Colosseum Starters, XD Starter, and Ranger Starter). --[[User:PikamasterADV|PikamasterADV]] 12:01, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
:Well, why not? The fact it is not part of the triangle does not disqualify him as a starter Pokémon. If we had a Dark/Fighting/Psych triangle, wouldn't still they be starters? Also, the Fire/Grass/Water triangle is already broken is some cases, like the 4th generation starters having second types after they evolve. In any case, he is undoubtedly a starter in the ranks of Squirtle and Charmander. He is given out by a professor (and our very original professor Oak in his case), is given in one of the "main" games of the series, and is a basic Pokémon. --[[User:Andrelvis|Andrelvis]] 15:53, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
::Well, don't forget that also, pretty much every starter gets a second type through evolution. Only ones who don't are Squirtle, Chikorita, Cyndaquil, Totodile, and Treecko. Hell, Bulbasaur has two types in its basic form.
::And I think the division's more on the games that are defined as the main RPG series vs the side games. After all, Pichu makes Pikachu a stage 1 now, in all technicalities. But, of course, Yellow is just as much a main game as Red, Blue, and Green are, unlike Colosseum and XD compared to Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald, even though all of them are RPGs. [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 01:02, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
:::Exactly. And that's why we have the "special starters" section. They are starters, but not as much so as the "main game" ones. --[[User:Andrelvis|Andrelvis]] 17:37, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
::::But they're not special per se. They're just... not mainstream. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 17:56, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
:::::A little off-topic, but I heard a rumor that Game Freak was considering a Fighting/Psychic/Dark trio for the Gen IV starters, but they decided to switch back to the usual Grass/Fire/Water trio. [[User:Diachronos|Diachronos]] 16:15, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

== To add to Trivia ==

I noticed this. Of the Grass starters up to and including Generation IV, all of the final forms have eight-letter English names. Venusaur, Meganium, Sceptile, and Torterra.
:Hmmm. Well, it's interesting, but the trivia section's already huge! '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 09:22, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

== To Remove from Trivia ==
"Usually upon evolution, the starter Pokémon gain another type. However, Blastoise, the three Johto starters' final forms (Meganium, Typhlosion, and Feraligatr), and Sceptile do not have a second type." This quote is not very accurate. The trivia itself lists 5 out of the 12 final evolutions of the main series' starters that don't gain a new type (technically it should be 6 of 13 because of [[Pikachu]]; which while it can't evolve in Yellow still does in every other version). 5 out of 12 is about 42%; which means that "usually" is used to define an occurance rate barely over 50% and is like saying Pokemon split equally into both [[gender|genders]] are "usually" one over the other. Additionally, only 6 of the 13 (about 46%) main series staters actually gain a new type out of evolution, as [[Bulbasaur]] starts with the {{type|Poison}}. I'm not sure if complete removal of this trivia is called for, but it definitely needs to be reworded. --[[User:ZellMurasame|ZellMurasame]] 05:15, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
:That's an overinspective technicality... but sure, it should be reworded if that's statistically the case. Just make sure not to link species with square brackets, man. The {{template|p}} template is there for use, especially with the starters and their families... all of which have appeared owned by a main anime character... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 08:57, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

==Pikachu==

Just saying buy uh.. You guys put every Pokemon's evolutions in the normal games. But not Pikachu's in Pokemon Yellow?
:Pikachu can't evolve in Yellow. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 04:16, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

== Colosseum elemental starters ==

Even though you can get the remaining two at the end of the game, let's not forget that Bayleef, Quilava, and Croconaw are somewhat "starter" Pokémon in Pokémon Colosseum, since you need to snag one of them at the beginning of the adventure. Maybe they're like Eevee's evolutionary stones or shards in that their availability isn't immediate... However, one of the things that make them non-traditional starters is that the game doesn't explicitly ask you "you want this Pokémon, or this one, or this one?". --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 03:07, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

You just have to beat Rosso, Verde, or Bluno. You don't have to snag their Shadow Pokémon. [[User:Gligar|Gli]][[User talk:Gligar|gar]] ''I am not removing this lengthy addition to my signature until all moves have been updated to Platinum standard.'' 00:11, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

== Obediance ==

I seem to recall that in the main series, a Starter Pokémon will always obey even if its level surpasses the mark of a required Gym Badge. Has anyone else experienced this? If so, should it be added to the article somewhere? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 19:37, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

All Pokémon caught by the trainer will, they wont obey if they have been received in a trade.[[User:David aipom|Davidaipom]] 19:39, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

:The page on [[Badge]]s does not make that distinction. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 19:48, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
::well that's how it works --lord mada 19:50, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

:::So what you're saying is that if a player was able to start a new game and somehow "catch" a Level 70 Pokémon right off the bat, it will obey? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 19:54, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
::::yeah I'm pretty sure --lord mada 19:55, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

:::::Interesting... Well then, disregard. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 19:57, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::Yes but dont forget that's very unlikely in the main series. [[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]
:::::::Start a new game, trade away a random caught Pokémon, get it back after a while at level 70 and it likely will obey. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 18:54, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Unlikely, but possible. Especially with an Action Replay. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:53, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

== Trivia overload? ==

Don't get me wrong, I always love a lot of additions to the trivia section, but even now it seems like it's way too much. We might want to cut back on some more esoteric things, and group the move pattern observations together. [[User:Toastypk|'''''~Toastypk''''']] - [[User_Talk:Toastypk|'''Loom.''']] 17:41, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
:Maybe it would be possible to encorporate some of the more anime-exclusive trivia into the anime section and likewise for game-exclusive, and only put overall trivia at the bottom. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:45, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
::Something I noticed on the Trivia section is that one of the links is broken; specifically, the cross-Wiki link about Charmander being based of the mythical Salamander. --[[User:Mikekearn|Mike]] | [[Special:Contributions/Mikekearn|Contrib]] 03:00, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
:::This was a stupid error on my part; I fixed it just now. I had fixed the link before, but I put wp:Salamander (legendary creature) rather than wp|Salamander (legendary creature). This caused a broken link. It was very unprofessional of me, and I greatly apologize for the error. [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 03:18, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

==No editing?==
Why cant I edit this? I found an error... --'''[[User:Mooites|Mooites]]''' [[User talk:Mooites|Talk to me, baby!]] 18:47, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
:So did I. I don't know if it's the same as yours, but its at the end of the page. It's missing a period. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 18:50, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
::In the middle of something, didn't want an edit conflict. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 18:54, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

==Gen IV type-trumping==
I just noticed something about the Sinnoh starters' final forms. Each of them gains a a type advantage over the starter it is weak to in some way:
*Torterra gains the Ground-type, which is super-effective against Infernape.
*Infernape gains the Fighting-type, which is super-effective against Empoleon's Steel-type.
*Empoleon gains the Steel-type, which gives it a resistance to Torterra's Grass-type (although it does give a weakness to Torterra's Ground-type (maybe for balance issues); however, being a Water-type, Empoleon can learn Ice-type attacks to deal super-effective damage against both of Torterra's types).
[[User:Diachronos|Diachronos]] 16:26, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
:However, the steel type also renders Empoleon without a resistance to either of Infernape's types, thus actually making it WEAK to Infernape (at least to it's fighting type, and the steel offbalances the water resistance to fire). [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 11:40, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
::Including Empoleon's ability to learn Ice moves, all the starters have moves which are super effective against the other two starters. As in, the examples listed above and the normal type advantage circle (except Empoleon is weak to Ground not Grass)So, in a way, it means that none of them are superior to the others. [[User:Gastly's Mama|Gastly's Mama]]

==Gary's Starter==
Is the statement "it caused many to hearken back to Pokémon Yellow, where the player starts with Pikachu, like Ash, and the rival starts with Eevee" the wrong way round because Pokemon Yellow was based on the anime and because Gary's true starter had not been revealed at the time, the makers made Eevee his starter, as the game required him to have a confirmed one? Therefore rather than people thinking this because that was his starter in Yellow, is it not much more likely that this was his starter in Yellow because people thought it was starter already? - ''unsigned comment from {{u|Gastlys mama}} ([[User talk:Gastlys mama|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Gastlys mama|contribs]]) ''

== Platinum ==

It's different in Platinum. There are no Starly. He just give them out for some reason to the two and they battle each other. Someone who knows the reason should place it. *[[User:Tc26|Tc]][[User talk:Tc26|26]]* 07:02, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
:Maybe it's to test out their newly received pokémon? that seems the most logical to me... [[User:Mijzelffan|Mijzelffan]] 15:40, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
::I think the question is why did Rowan give them to the character and Pearl. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 15:45, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
:::Well, that can wait until March... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:25, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
::::Its almost time for Platinum to come out in America, better get ready to fill that in!--[[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X, PEACE TO]][[User:Dragonbeastx|THE DRAGONS AND]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|THE BEASTS]] 07:18, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

== Trivia Addition ==

I felt it would be interesting to note that all of the starter's first evolutions have the same base stat total of 405, whereas the base and final forms vary greatly.
:Every middle evolution, you mean? Definitely something to say. But the final forms' variance needn't be mentioned; it's not like they're Butterfree vs Arceus in terms of BST difference. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:50, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

== Second Trivia Addition ==

Wouldn't it be a good idea to post the fact that in the anime, the protagonist's starter Pokémon actually has a type advantage over the rival's starter Pokémon other than the other way around? (Ash obviously had Pikachu whereas Gary had Squirtle) Seems relevant --[[User:Blackstone Dresden|Blackstone Dresden]] 03:47, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
:No. Basically what they did was say Gary had a MYSTERY OMGEEZ and then an EEVEE OMGEEZ YELOW and then BLASTOISE HAHA. And by that third point, in Johto, Ash's Charizard counted almost as much as Pikachu anyway, especially considering the battle the two had using those. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:52, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

== Kanto starters in HGSS? ==

I just got all 16 badges, Oak gives me a HM08, but no starter. Do i have to do something beforehand? -->'''[[User:223david|223]][[User_talk:223david|david]]''' 01:19, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
:This sounds kind of forum-y to me, but you might have to do the Copycat event first - I read somewhere that you have to do that in order to get a Hoenn starter from Steven, at least. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 01:23, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
::All events done ''except for red''. do i have to beat him firsT? -->'''[[User:223david|223]][[User_talk:223david|david]]''' 01:26, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
:::Yes. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 01:27, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

== The mystical, amazing disappearing starter Pokemon! ==

I could have sworn I saw this discussed somewhere before, but for the life of me I can't find it now. Oh well.

Anyway, at some point in HGSS (not sure exactly when) the third starter Pokemon which wasn't chosen by the PC or the rival mysteriously vanishes from its place in Elm's lab. (The game text when the... whatever that machine is... is examined is something along the lines of, "Hey! The third Pokeball is gone! Was it given to someone?" though I can't be bothered to switch games in my DS to check for sure.) I figure that this is notable enough to go into the article, and I'd put it in there myself, but I quite honestly don't know if its disappearance is ever explained, and I figure that if it ''were'' explained that should go in the article too.

Thoughts?/Anyone know what in the world happened to it? [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 00:29, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
:If you're looking for a general discussion on this, head to the forums. Pedia-wise, the only thing we can really do is say that it vanishes and we don't know where to. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 00:35, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
::Nah, wasn't looking for a general discussion. I brought it up for the purpose of adding it into the article... And I haven't beaten the game yet, so I don't know if its disappearance is left unexplained, and that's why I didn't want to say that in the article (maybe it is explained, and I just haven't gotten that far yet!). I thought maybe someone else would have the answer so that it could be added to the article, definitively stating whether its disappearance was explained or not. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 00:40, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

== Can someone please put these up? ==

They're missing from the page. Pokabu's picture is the only one on there. --[[User:Dialgafan1|Dialgafan1]] 18:42, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

== Was this ever confirmed? ==

On the article it said "In Pokémon Black and White, the regional professor, yet unnamed, will offer the player a choice of the Grass-type Tsutarja, the Fire-type Pokabu, or the Water-type Mijumaru. " It's very likely this is true, but this was never confirmed so should we edit it?--[[User:Eastern|Eastern]] 18:07, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
:It's been proven. There's even an official site of the game that confirms this. - [[User:050294|050294]] 23:40, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
::I think what he means is, does the professor actually give it to the player, or is there a situation similar to DPPt, where they decide to take them and are allowed to keep them later, et cetera.—[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 09:24, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Yeah, that's what I mean.--[[User:Eastern|Eastern]] 15:26, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

== Ranger "starters"? ==

I just now noticed that the Ranger partner Pokemon weren't included in the page (but I remember them being on there before). But can they be considered starter Pokemon? They probably weren't the first Pokemon the player captured (except in the first ranger game), but they are the first Pokemon they get to keep for themselves. So can they still be considered starters?

== Cheren & Bel Starters ==

Example: I choose Pokabu, Cheren will Choose Mijumaru and Belle will chose Tsutarja. But this is

not confirmmed---[[User:Franztrovao]] July 24, 2010 - 18:10 (UTC)

:It '''''IS''''' confirmed ([[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 18:15, 24 July 2010 (UTC))

== Trivia ==

Since I want no part in the edit war, I'm going to explain the trivia piece here:

<code>
As of [[Generation IV]], every '''starter-type''' in the main series (with the exception of {{p|Pikachu}}) has have one Pokémon in its final-stage of evolution to have a double weakness; {{p|Charizard}} is doubly weak to {{type|Rock}}, {{p|Swampert}} is doubly weak to {{type|Grass}} and {{p|Torterra}} is doubly weak to {{type|Ice}}.</code>

It doesn't say by generation. It says by starter ''type''. That means Fire, Water, and Grass.
Charizard, Torterra, and Swampert are members of these respective types and have double weaknesses. The trivia, meaning-wise, is fine. (Unless one were to count Bulbasaur's Poison typing...)

So yeah, if you're going to remove it, remove it for a different reason plz and thanks.--[[User:Cold|Cold]] ([[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 23:33, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

== Should Mystery Dungeon initial Pokémon be considered starters? ==

I've looked through Mystery Dungeon: Blue's manual, Bulbapedia's pages on all three sets of games, and the official Explorers of Sky webpage and have seen no mention of the initial Pokémon from MD as "starters", just "Hero Pokémon" (for the player) and "Partner Pokémon" (for the partner). They seem to lack the basic criteria for being starters (the initial Pokémon owned by a ''trainer''), even more so than the Ranger's [[Partner Pokémon]] which were already deemed not to be starters. Now I'll admit I never even played through Blue fully (and never played the others), so there may be something in-game, but I think we should separate them into their own ''Hero and Partner Pokémon'' page or something, as they don't seem to belong here. '''[[User:Memo326|Memo]]'''[[User talk:Memo326|326]] 02:48, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
:Completely agree. I've fixed this page, but the navigation template needs to be modified still. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 15:34, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

== Pokémon Yellow Evolution ==

The article says that the rival's {{p|Eevee}} evolves into {{p|Jolteon}}, {{p|Flareon}} or {{p|Vaporeon}} depending on the outcomes of battles between the player and the rival. Specifically, which battles are important, and how do the results affect the evolution? It seems like this would be a useful thing to add to the article. I believe that if the player loses the first battle in Pallet Town, the {{p|Eevee}} will evolve into a {{p|Vaporeon}}, but this should probably be double-checked. [[User:Tk3141|Tk3141]] 20:52, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Ive heard that if you win both battles, lose both battles, or lose one and win one, the outcome will be different. But im not that far in the game so I don't know the specific outcomes. --[[User:Supermon|Supermon]] 21:07, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
:It's explained in more detail [[Blue (game)/Yellow|here]]. Basically the results of the first two possible battles are summed. Two wins = Jolteon. One win and one loss/skip = Flareon. Two losses/One loss one skip = Vaporeon. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 03:54, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

== Lyra/Khoury ==

Is it confirmed that Lyra and Khoury received their starters from Professor Elm or is it speculation? [[User:Duke R|'''|) u |( e''']] [[User talk:Duke R|'''®''']] 16:06, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

== Mystery Dungeon and Ranger starters ==

I think we need to move the starters of Mystery Dungeon to Player character, because thats basically what they are, people you can play as. Also, the Ranger Pokemon should be removed because we already have the Partner Pokemon page, which contains the same information. [[User:Iml908|Iml908]] ([[User talk:Iml908|talk]]) 20:37, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
:I agree with both. [[User:Duke R|'''|) u |( e''']] [[User talk:Duke R|'''®''']] 21:24, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
::I think that they should still be linked with {{template|main}}. Also, Rumble is in the same situation as PMD. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 05:10, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

== New Trivia (yeah, I know it's a little big already) ==

(First time, forgive me if I screw this up horribly)

Since Pikachu knows Thundershock, Yellow is the only main series game in which the player's starter pokemon begins play with a STAB move. Incidentally, the Rival's starter also has a STAB move, as Eevee knows tackle and is of the normal-type.

There's probably a better way of wording this. but I thought it was neat.
22:26, 20 November 2012 (UTC)HH

== Definition of starter Pokémon ==

I've always thought of starter Pokémon as meaning the sets of three Pokémon that are given by the professor, not merely a Trainer's first Pokémon. I don't mind including Pikachu and Eevee, ''that'' much (although I'm still uncertain about them), adding Marill and Ralts, and calling things like [[Growlie]] "starter Pokémon" just seems wrong to me. If people really want to list Trainer's first Pokémon, then I think that page should be at {{redlink|first Pokémon}}; however, IMO starter Pokémon should refer only to Bulbasaur, Charmander, Bulbasaur, Chikorita, Cyndaquil, Totodile, Treecko, Torchic, Mudkip, Turtwig, Chimchar, Piplup, Snivy, Tepig, Oshawott, and maybe Pikachu and Eevee if you really want. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 08:42, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
:Personally, I feel it's the Pokémon someone ''starts'' with. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 08:54, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
::I agree with Jo, even though the ones listed by SnorlaxMonster are treated completely different from the other "first Pokémon" from other media. Since this page is huge, maybe splitting into "Starter Pokémon (main series)", "Starter Pokémon (spin-off)", "Starter Pokémon (anime)" and "Starter Pokémon (Adventures)" could be taken into account but is not the best option. [[User:Duke R|'''|) u |( e''']] [[User talk:Duke R|'''®''']] 10:50, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
:::Splitting like that completely ignores the point. The idea is that the Pokémon I listed are a group of Pokémon, while this page just lists the first Pokémon of a bunch of Trainers. If we want to redefine starter Pokémon as "the first Pokémon a Trainer owns" rather than the traditional "the three Pokémon that Trainers can choose from to start their journey" and give the traditional grouping their own name, then while I wouldn't prefer it, it would be better than what we have now. What I'm saying is that we have a distinct group of Pokémon that the fandom have always called "starter Pokémon", and this page seems to have merged that group with everyone's first Pokémon. So regardless of what you want to call "starter Pokémon", the traditional starter Pokémon need a separate page from people's first Pokémon. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 06:14, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
::::For what it's worth, I would define the starter pokemon as the sets of three plus Pikachu and Eevee. We categorize pokemon beyond their obvious classification by their secondary characteristics. Legendary Pokemon, other than those explicitly called out as such, are typically unique pokemon within the games that may or may not have a defining role in the story- even beginning trainers have a pretty good idea what you're talking about when you say "legendary". Pseudo-Legendaries bear some explanation, but fall within obviously recognizable parameters- 600 base stats, typically a double weakness to something, general badassedness, etc. The "starters" of the main series of games are typically in line in terms of stats and evolutions without significant variation- It would not surprise me if next generation we had to call out Charizard and Typhlosion as the exceptions to the "Fire/Fighting Rule". Spinoff series games should at best get their own page and at worst be merely mentioned on their own page. "Games" that are effectively pokedexes shouldn't be listed at all outside the article affirming their existence, as there is no meaningful way to interact with them. Eevee and Pikachu get to be the exceptions because they ''are'' the exceptions- the only main series game not to play by their own rules. You might not even list Eevee, as it's not technically an option for the trainer- It's not a "starter" pokemon, it's a "rival" pokemon.[[User:TheHateHat|TheHateHat]] ([[User talk:TheHateHat|talk]]) 04:36, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
:::::I going to say that there needs to be a distinction between "starter" and "first". For example, in the TCG a "starter set" is a set intended for people just starting to learn the TCG. However, it does not have to be their first TCG set, and their first TCG set is not necessarily a "starter set". A "starter Pokémon" is a Pokémon given to Trainers when they begin their journey to get them started. Therefore, instances like Wally's Ralts are not starter Pokémon; it is his first Pokémon, and if people want that to have a page that's fine, but they shouldn't be here. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 15:33, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
::::::I second that. The eighteen starter Pokémon from main series games must have an article of their own, they are a group of distinct Pokémon, always treated specially in every medium of the Pokémon franchise. [[User:Duke R|'''|) u |( e''']] [[User talk:Duke R|'''®''']] 04:27, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

== Eevee in Yellow ==

It seems strange to me that Eevee should be included as a starter Pokemon in Yellow on the bit at the bottom of pages about specific starter Pokemon. (Sorry don't know the correct technical term.) The player cannot start with Eevee. If the starter Pokemon of NPCs qualify for this definition of starter Pokemon then surely every known starter Pokemon for NPCs should be added to both of these sections in order to be logically consistent? If it is just because Blue is the rival of this game that his starter is notable why aren't the starters of Wally and Ethan/Lyra as NPCs? I understand their inclusion in the article but I don't understand how Blue's Eevee is any more notable than the starters of those two trainers, particularly not to the degree that it gets a mention at the bottom of the page when the others don't. [[User:Gastly's Mama|Gastly's Mama]] ([[User talk:Gastly's Mama|talk]]) 17:55, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
:Eevee was supposed to be player's starter, but Blue snatched it. [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 18:46, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
::But it is still not an option for the player to get it, which is more the point I feel. It is still not an option to start with. No matter what the storyline claims, the player was never "supposed" to get Eevee. Also, I'm not even sure the storyline DOES claim that.[[User:Gastly's Mama|Gastly's Mama]] ([[User talk:Gastly's Mama|talk]]) 14:07, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
:::Any Pokémon given by the Professor is a starter Pokémon, imo.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 14:16, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

== Fire Starter Trivia ==

Should it be added that there's a trend that all of the fire starters are all members of the Chinese Zodiac? There's been dragon (the Charmander line), rat (Cyndaquil being the fire '''mouse''' pokemon), rooster (the Torchic line), monkey (the Chimchar line), pig (the Tepig line), and just recently, dog (Fennekin being a fox). --[[User:GodzillaMaster|GodzillaMaster]] ([[User talk:GodzillaMaster|talk]]) 20:12, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
:I say this is more opinion than fact. Yes, Cyndaquil is the Fire Mouse Pokémon but it isn't based on a mouse (or a rat). Fennekin, while based of a species of canines, isn't a dog. Though I agree with the others. So you could say I'm neutral/indifferent on this trivia.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 02:31, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
:Yes, I know that Cyndaquil isn't based on an actual mouse, but the species name still counts and fox should be close enough to dog to count. --[[User:GodzillaMaster|GodzillaMaster]] ([[User talk:GodzillaMaster|talk]]) 03:30, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

== Shininess ==

Is it possible that received starter in main series will be shiny?
[[User:SFtheGreat|SFtheGreat]] ([[User talk:SFtheGreat|talk]]) 19:53, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
: Yes, it's the same probability as if you were to catch them in the wild (approximately 1/8192). [[User:ChiefbozX|ChiefbozX]] ([[User talk:ChiefbozX|talk]]) 20:44, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

== Kanto Starters for X and Y ==

"Soon afterwards, Professor Sycamore will give the player a choice between one of the classic Kanto starter Pokémon, whom, upon reaching their final stages, will have access to Mega Evolved forms, given the prequisite Mega Stone."

This is more speculation than factual. We do not meet Professor Sycamore until Lumoise City. This was stated in the preview clips when he was released as well as stated on the main web site. Lumoise City is after the first Gym so the player has a good bit of play time before they ever meet Professor Sycamore in Lumoise. We also have not been given any information as to whether or not the Kanto Starters are Post Game hand outs like all other Non-Regional Starters are like in Pokemon Emerald and forward. Should probably wait for more information before saying we get two starters in the game since this has the makings of being post-game hand outs like they always end up. [[User:XanderO|XanderO]] ([[User talk:XanderO|talk]]) 14:08, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
:While I do believe we should wait till we have more information on this, I thought we had more reason to believe that the Kanto starters weren't post-game hand outs. First of all, I don't believe they revealed post-game starters before during pre-release. And second, I believe in the Pokémon Direct, the man asked Masuda if there was going to be anything different about this game. Masuda then answered by talking about Sycamore giving out one of the Kanto starters. If it was post-game, that wouldn't be different from previous games at all. They even showed that picture with the three Kalos starters and the three Kanto starters. I think that the implication is that we're supposed to have 2 starters early on this time around. [[User:Pocketfanmk|Pocketfanmk]] ([[User talk:Pocketfanmk|talk]]) 17:32, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

Talk:Calem (game)

2013-08-21T20:43:31Z

Pocketfanmk: /* Player versus NPC */

==Why?==

Um, why does the trivia say: "'''''Prior to the release''''' of Pokémon X and Y, pre-release media '''''reffered''''' to Calem as "Xavier." "

Wouldn't it make more sense to say: "'''''Currently''''' Pokémon X and Y pre-release media '''''is reffering''''' to Calem as "Xavier." "?
You know, beacause the game ''isn't actually released yet''? ★☆[[User:Togetic45|'''Toge''']][[User talk:Togetic45|'''tic''']][[Special:Contributions/Togetic45|'''45''']]☆★ 15:12, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

:It would make more sense to hide it until October 12th, same with [[Serena|Yvonne]]'s trivia. --[[User:Relicant|'''Reli'''★'''ジーランス''']]'''?''' 15:39, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
::Why would we hide it? We know their real names ''now''. [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 16:38, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Because the game hasn't been released yet. It's just stupid to have trivia about their prerelease names up here when it's not even October 12th yet. (Also Xavier and Yvonne need to be turned into redirects, Whitlea and Blair are) --[[User:Relicant|'''Reli'''★'''ジーランス''']]'''?''' 16:43, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Ok. A big fuss happened just because I asked something, but no matter. I'm sure the higher ranked users know more then me. Whatever. :) ★☆[[User:Togetic45|'''Toge''']][[User talk:Togetic45|'''tic''']][[Special:Contributions/Togetic45|'''45''']]☆★ 11:56, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

== Player versus NPC ==

Judging from where both Xavier and Calem's names are located on the official website, why can't we say that the NPC's name is Calem and that the identical player's name is Xavier? Obviously, they don't have the same plotline (one being your neighbor and one being you), so technically they could be considered separate characters. Besides, the official website is actually using both names, in what seem to be these two situations. I know that this is a rather complicated way to put it, and it may be easier to call him Calem and say that Xavier was exclusively prerelease (although Calem technically is, too), but this is what the website seems to be saying, and saying otherwise would be just as speculative, if not more so. (For proof of my statements, see the official website's "Characters" part of the X and Y section.) [[User:EpicDeino|EpicDeino]] ([[User talk:EpicDeino|talk]]) 17:45, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
:No. This happens every single game. When you play as {{ga|May}}, you get {{ga|Brendan}} and your neighbor. When you play as {{ga|Lucas}}, {{ga|Dawn}} is [[Professor Rowan]]'s assistant. When you play as {{ga|Ethan}}, {{ga|Lyra}} is your neighbor. When you play as {{ga|Hilbert}} or {{ga|Nate}}, {{ga|Hilda}} or {{ga|Rosa}} is your [[Battle Subway]] partner. It's the same thing that happens every single game. The names as NPCs are the official names. Xavier and Yvonne are just placeholder names, which they also use every game. The Japanese site just uses X and Y, respectively. Which aren't names at all. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 17:52, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
::They are still being referred to as Xavier and Yvonne. I think this is the first time where the default name and NPC name differ. That and the NPC versions aren't exactly the same as the default characters. Is it safe to keep them as Xavier and Yvonne as by now we would have seen Gamefreak change the names to Calem/Serena if those were the default names. [[User:XanderO|XanderO]] ([[User talk:XanderO|talk]]) 02:36, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
:::I'll assume this was meant to be here. No, that's not how it works. Xavier and Yvonne are nothing more than names that they use for promotional material. That's it. It happens every single game. If they were the canon names, then Ethan would be called "Heart" and Lyra would be called "Soul". Same goes for Nate being "Black2" and Rosa being "White2". Even if the NPCs thing has been revealed, they aren't going to stop using the names they were using earlier. If you must know, it basically works like this. You, the player, can name your character whatever you want. However, the character you didn't pick appears in the game with a preset name. This is how the naming for player characters work and it's not different here. In summation, Xavier and Yvonne are not the names. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 03:25, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
::::The new gameplay demon also has the Player character as Xavier even though his female rival is Serena. {{unsigned|Clark Griswald}}
:::::I wanted to post that too. The Demo still shows a difference between the two character name sets. The PC's names are Xavier and Yvonne while the NPC versions are called Calem and Serena. I think this shows that the Default names for the PC and the names for your look alike rivals are different as they are supposedly different characters in the game. When the real names were shown in the past they stopped using the filler names and showed the revealed names on the characters, while X and Y are continuing with two different sets of names. [[User:XanderO|XanderO]] ([[User talk:XanderO|talk]]) 18:53, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
::::::Whether or not they're continuing with two sets of names, Bulbapedia's policy has always been that player character articles are named based on what the character is named when they appear as an NPC. Since the games aren't out yet, I think it's absurd to argue over what name to use until then, since literally nobody can be right because the games aren't out yet. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 19:15, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
:::::::Just wanted to say that while the American demo has the player character's names as "Xavier" and "Yvonne," the Japanese demo has the player's names as "エックス" (X/ekkusu) and "ワイ" (Y/wai). Which means that this argument with the name demo is arguing that Nate and Rosa's official names are Black2 and White2. The Japanese equivalents of Xavier and Yvonne are X and Y, and there's no reason to believe that those are the player character's "official" names any more than Ethan is named Soul and Lyra is named Heart. [[User:Pocketfanmk|Pocketfanmk]] ([[User talk:Pocketfanmk|talk]]) 20:43, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

== Friends ==

Serena is also one of the friends he meets in Vaniville, not only Tierno, Shauna and Trevor. [[User:Duke R|'''|) u |( e''']] [[User talk:Duke R|'''®''']] 03:11, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

== Korean name for Calem ==

His Korean name is 칼름 ''Kalleum''.
* Basically the transliteration of "Calem". -- [[User:Nick15|Nick15]] ([[User talk:Nick15|talk]]) 23:23, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

== Eye color is grey, not brown. ==

Calem's eye color is listed as brown. However, I'm sure he has grey eyes. By the way, someone else also noted this on Serena's Talk Page. Could anyone change it? [[User:Nickvang|Nickvang]] ([[User talk:Nickvang|talk]]) 19:25, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

== Pokémon-Amie artwork ==
[[File:Pokémon-Amie artwork.png|thumb]]
This is another artwork for Calem, but the page is protected. Same with Serena. [[User:PaulMacciatto|PaulMacciatto]] ([[User talk:PaulMacciatto|talk]]) 06:45, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
:Not every image that contains Calem needs to be on his page. This is artwork of [[Pokémon-Amie]], so it belongs on that page. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 10:40, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

== Image ==

Someone should probably put the main image size to something like 120px so it's a little smaller --[[User:S2daam|--samm :D]] 10:24, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

Talk:Swords of Justice/Archive 1

2012-09-25T07:39:45Z

Pocketfanmk: /* Question? */

==Other possible inspirations?==
Couple of observations that have been pointed out to me that may have also been part of the inspiration for the quartet. In France, where the Musketeer stories originate, there's a variation of Rock, Paper, Scissors which includes a fourth option: Well. It may be coincidence, but the primary types of the Musketeer quartet seem to reflect this. Rock, Steel/Scissors, Grass/Paper, and Water/Well.
Another, slightly more unlikely proposition I've heard is that the four are based upon the four horsemen, with their livestock basis being a nod towards Arceus'[the God or creator] design as an equine creature. Kobaruon would be Conquest; Terakion, War; Birijion, Famine [its pokedex entry specifying it trifles with opponents, implying a slow demise]; and Keldeo, Death.

Should these possible influences be considered and added to the article at some point? When it comes to design inspiration, most pages tend to take liberties, especially with the newer Pokémon. In any case, I felt the two observations were worth bringing up. [[User:Tindil|Tindil]] 19:10, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

:The Rock-Scissors-Paper thing makes a lot of sense to me. Seems like a valid connection.--[[User:Podunk|Podunk]] 07:11, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

== Different name? ==

Okay, so, before, I know, the [[lake guardians]] were called by us the lake trio. And now with Gen V being new, this is the musketeer trio. One problem there, though.

'''''THERE ARE FOUR OF THEM.'''''

So I propose naming this page either musketeer ungulates (goes with the rest of the non-mascot trios, which don't use trio in their name), or legendary ungulates. And yes, I do intend for you guys to stop linking to them at every damned chance. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:05, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
:It's called the three musketeers hence why it's a trio remember, Keldeo(d'Artagnan) isn't considered one yet as he's a new member and Keldeo being based on him should have the same treatment [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 19:09, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
::This is still a dumb name. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 16:43, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

I get an odd feeling to rant about how Keldeo doesn't belong, but something tells me that would get me banned again. So rather than ranting, I'll just list what discludes Keldeo.

*Exhibit A) MASS distance; seven Pokédex slots between Terrakion (last in the lineup) and Keldeo.
*Exhibit B) Altered learnset; knows Aqua Jet rather than Quick Attack, learns Sacred Sword at 43 rather than 42, and is the only one to learn Sword of Mystery.
*Exhibit C) Obtain method; the others roam, and Keldeo is an event Pokémon

To think that I inverbally supported the dragons but am disaproving of musketeer junior here. [[User:Giratina's Embodiment|Giratina's Embodiment]] - [[User talk:Giratina's Embodiment|Please don't hurt us...]] 01:48, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

: 1)You mean Virizion.

2) god forbid it learns something different

3) It's the youngest so it takes longer to learn. and Sword of Mystery is an event so it doesn't count

4) your point? [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 01:53, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, that last part was me just thinking out loud... or something like that. And just because we're making an anology to a story/legend doesn't mean we need to link together every little bit of the story/legend to Pokémon. [[User:Giratina's Embodiment|Giratina's Embodiment]] - [[User talk:Giratina's Embodiment|Please don't hurt us...]] 02:03, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Also, Keldeo is event-exclusive, so yes, Sword of Mystery does, in a way, count. [[User:Giratina's Embodiment|Giratina's Embodiment]] - [[User talk:Giratina's Embodiment|Please don't hurt us...]] 02:07, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Hm... Musketeers doesn't make much sense unless you know the origin, and even then Keldeo doesn't really count, even though it's definitely a counterpart. On the other hand, ungulates is very vague and lame; what would we do if another trio were based on ungulates? We'd have another "Dragon Trio" on our hands. I would lean toward Legendary Musketeers: it's not perfect, but it's the best I can think of. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 14:33, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
:I'm totally with TTE on this one (I actually came to this page to request a move). Sure, it's not a member of the trio, but it is closely related. We could call it "legendary musketeers", "musketeer Pokémon", "musketeer ungulates" or "legendary ungulates". As TTE mentioned, only box legends get trio, and there can be considered to be four of these. Also, unless it was officially stated that they are inspired by the musketeers, this is a poor title choice. "Legendary ungulates" seems to be the best choice. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 02:43, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
::"Ungulates" isn't going to garner favor or use. "Trio" is also not exclusive to box mascot trios; that's simply how it's happened so far (the Raijin/Kami trio will break it if the Three Musketeers don't). How hard is it to call them the Musketeer Quartet? They're going to be called the "musketeers" for short by the rest of the fandom, no matter '''which''' name is used here, ultimately. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 02:59, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
:::But it's debateable whether there re 3 or 4 of them, so just not mentioning it is better. Calling them the "Legendary Musketeers" seems to solve this problem. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:24, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

== Remove Keldeo from the article ==

Just because it's another Fighting legendary doesn't mean the trio is a quartet. Besides, it's not confirmed. [[User:Bwburke94|Bwburke94]] 16:54, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
:ahahahahaha no. Keldeo has a connection to the other three (and yes it happens in game) and it was adopted by them [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 16:58, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

== Trio Master ==
If, as we have noted, Keldeo is not truly part of the trio, and it is (semi) far apart from the others in the Pokedex, wouldn't Keldeo be qualified for Trio Master? This would also save us from the trio/musketeers/quartet dilemma. [[User:Mewtwo777|I am Darth Mewtwo... Fear me, and my team made entirely of Mewtwo!!!]] 18:37, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
:''A Pokémon that is a trio master is one who, in some way, oversees a legendary trio of Pokémon.'' Keldeo does this in no way, as he is the least experienced of the group. Just because he breaks the conventions of the other three, that doesn't make him the master. --[[User:Jda95|'''jda''']][[User talk:Jda95|'''95''']] 03:39, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

== Moving it to Legendary musketeers ==

Is someone approves of this move, say I. Since there are four members, its more likely. [[User:Duo2nd|Duo2nd]] 10:11, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
:I agree. Since it is debatable whether or not Keldeo is part of the trio, it is better to not mention it. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 06:30, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
::I guess there's a difference between "Musketeer Trio" and "The Three Musketeer". They are not a trio, but they are "The Three Musketeer", get it? I mean, the name "Three Musketeer" is about the original three and a friend who came after. Making a gross comparison, it's the same difference between United States of America and America's states united. The latter would be a union of all states all over the continent, and the first is a country's name, although not all states of the America got together to build a country. [[User:Diby esp|Gabriel Rocha (Diby esp)]] 22:40, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
:Can we just call them the "the Musketeers"? No "Legendary", no "trio", no "quartet", no "Muskedeers". There is nothing else in the series that can be called a "musketeer", thus is should not need a "Legendary" to differentiate them from anything else. They're special and unique enough that Musketeer is a big enough blanket term to cover all four of them, or all three of them. Birds are birds (half the flying class), beasts are beasts (most of the ground group), golems are {{p|Golem}}s. Since there will never be a consensus on the numbers, eliminate them. Since there hasn't been anything else based on the Musketeers, no need to separate them with a "Legendary" prefix, because it's obvious they're referring to the legendaries without having to call them that; if this changes in the future, you can talk about it then. But I say make this easy: just call them the Musketeers. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 17:18, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
::I think Luna's thought is a good one, but if that doesn't work, I think the next best would be Legendary musketeers. [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] 23:51, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
:::I think just {{red link|musketeers}} works as well, but I also feel that it implies that they are human; however, the is just a minor complaint, and I would be happy with them at either musketeers or legendary musketeers, just as long as the title does not specify number. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 08:47, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
::::Not that I disagree with this, but the musketeers seem too...general to refer to them. "Legendary Musketeers" at least would highlight the fact they're legendaries. [[User:J-J-M|'''J''']]'''-'''[[User talk:J-J-M|'''J''']]'''-'''[[Special:Contributions/J-J-M|'''M''']] 09:36, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
:::::But why not musketeer quartet? They are with 4 members, and that is a quartet. --[[User:Nazirbashir|Nazirbashir]] 18:20, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
I concur we should move it to Legendary musketeers unless there is a confirmed trio master.Could Cobalion be the master you need to battle him before you can get the others. --[[User:Pokemonboy3000|Pokemonboy3000]] 05:51, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
:Cobalion could be a trio master - I would consider him one - but he's also a part of the trio, which is in fact not a trio, but a quartet, which is the root of the problem. I'm in favor of Legendary Musketeers. [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] 16:19, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
I agree with Luna. [[User:DeniedGrox|DeniedGrox]] 18:23, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

Move to [[Legendary musketeers]] supported. --[[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] 07:47, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

==Les Trois Mousquetaires==
Les Trois Mousquetaires (The Three Musketeer) is a novel by Alexandre Dumas. It talks about Three men and one friend of them, the younger D'Artagnan. So, what's the problem with the name? That perfectly fits the story--[[User:TheFaither|TheFaither]] 19:02, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
:People are literal with their numbers. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 19:35, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

== Official source. based on a The Three Musketeers. ==

It is being described by Nintendo Dream vol.204. [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 19:06, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

== types ==

There types may be refer to the homes of pokémon: rock for cave pokémon, grass for pokémon in the forest, woods or just tall grass, water for pokémon that life in lakes or in the sea and steel may be refer to pokémon that life in the city (like the trash cloak of wormadam). Nickvang 22:47 25 june 2011

== Keldeo is special ==

Keldeo is clearly sticking out. Its an "additional/extra/hidden" member of the legendary trio.

--It is an event pokemon; not obtainable on the actual playthrough; one of those hidden ones at the end of the dex; It doesn't share the battle music because you don't even get to encounter it; You have to drive to a movie or download it via wifi at a specific month in the near future; This is glaringly obvious and causes facepalming.

--It has a unique move which it does not share with the three that teach it: Secret Sword
The unlocking method (bringing the legendary group to a certain place) has been used for making "additional members" of legendary groups appear several times:
*Crystal: Beasts->Ho-oh
*DPt: Lake guardians->dimension legendary
*DP/Pt: golems->Regigigas / Regigigas->golems
*HGSS: Weather duo->Rayquaza
*BW: Kami demons->Harvest Kami

-Even from a lore standpoint: It has not been with them from the start.
The musketeers rescued the orphan from certain death, noticed its potential, and trained it, which surprisingly resulted in it rapidly growing as strong as them, which is when all they had left to teach it was a unique move for it. While it is indeed on par statwise with the trio, consider that it does this while lacking the adult and elegant design accompanied with that on the other three.

Just because it doesn't fit the conventional fan-made term "trio master", does not mean you should force it into the group as a proper member and ignore it being the apprentice. If anything, the term "trio master" needs an update to additional group/duo/trio member. There might as well be weaker additional members someday for example anyway.
--[[User:Saiph charon|Saiph charon]] 18:27, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

:I wonder whether it gaining a "Resolution forme" will finally make the musketeers fit the legendary trio classification again?... Which is what they are, with or without Keldeos existence, they're as much of a trio as any other. Keldeo is the extra, not the norm. Event->unavailable in normal gameplay.... There has always been groups of legendaries that share an equal ammount of similarities, AND have a more special additional member :/ --[[User:Saiph charon|Saiph charon]] 07:28, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

== Move ==

Will you please move this page to "Sacred swordsmen"? [[User:SaturnMario|SaturnMario]], [[User talk:SaturnMario|his talk]] and [[Special:Contributions/SaturnMario|his contributions]] 23:35, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
:I think Legendary Musketeers is fine. Sacred Swordsmen is the Japanese name, and we generally go with the English name for the page title. [[User:MatchMaster|MatchMaster]] ([[User talk:MatchMaster|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/MatchMaster|Contribs]]) 00:38, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
::I think it's better to just wait for the dub of [[M15]] to come out and see how TPCI will translate this. --[[User:神奇超龍|'''Chao''']]「'''[[User talk:神奇超龍|超龍]]'''」 02:45, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
:::My two cents: I understand that they are based on the Three Musketeers. Still, why are they actually called the Musketeer Trio (or Legendary Musketeers, whichever you prefer,) at all? A musketeer is a soldier equipped with a musket, and these Pokémon do not seem to be wielding muskets. If you're not interested in nitpicking the wording, the theme of RSE was centered around ecological balance, yet the legendary trio is not called the 'Ecological Trio'. Groudon and Kyogre comprise the Weather Duo, so named based upon the Pokémon, not what they represent. 'Sacred Swordsmen' seems to be based more on the Pokémon themselves. We could also do as the last post suggests. Regardless of the debate, I think referring to a Pokémon as a musketeer may simply send the wrong message. Here end my thoughts for the penny jar. [[User:SaxyOmega90125|SaxyOmega90125]] ([[User talk:SaxyOmega90125|talk]]) 04:03, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
::::"Musketeer" may literally mean a soldier wielding a musket, but in common modern parlance it's rarely used except to refer to ''The Three Musketeers'', so I see no problem with keeping the current name until TPCI translates M15, and possibly beyond that indefinitely if, for some reason, the movie avoids translating the term. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 06:04, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
:::::If the movie avoids translating it, I would rather use "sacred swordsmen" (but I don't know how they would manage that). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 06:06, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
::::::People, just because the ''Three Muskteers'' ''has "Three" in '''it doesn't mean''' its Three Musketeers'', their Japanese name ''is'' "Scared Swords Men", but lets keep the American Name. -[[User:Clubchloe1|'''Club''']][[User talk:Clubchloe1|'''chloe''']][[Special:Contributions/Clubchloe1|'''1''']] 19:52, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
:::::::I think we should just wait until the dub name of the move is released. [[User:Satoshi101|サトシ101]] ([[User talk:Satoshi101|talk]]) 00:58, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
::::::::Pokemon.com officially names the trio on the movie page as the Swords of Justice. While we should wait for the movie to be released since Pokemon.com has made mistakes before, as of now, Swords of Justice I think is the most official term used for them (similar to the Lake Guardians). [[User:Pocketfanmk|Pocketfanmk]] ([[User talk:Pocketfanmk|talk]]) 06:54, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
:::::::::No. Swords of Justice is clearly the official English term. The title confirms that it's not a mistake. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 07:08, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
::::::::::Oh, right. Well there you go. We move to Swords of Justice, yes? It's official and everything. [[User:Pocketfanmk|Pocketfanmk]] ([[User talk:Pocketfanmk|talk]]) 01:37, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

== Question? ==

Just wondering. Why aren't the Swords of Justice categorized with the legendary trios again? [[User:Pocketfanmk|Pocketfanmk]] ([[User talk:Pocketfanmk|talk]]) 01:37, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
:{{p|Keldeo}}. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 01:44, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
:: I thought we said that Keldeo was a "special" member. The exception. [[User:Pocketfanmk|Pocketfanmk]] ([[User talk:Pocketfanmk|talk]]) 07:39, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Swords of Justice/Archive 1

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Kris (game)

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Pocketfanmk:

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'''Kris''' (Japanese: '''クリス''' ''Kris'') is the female counterpart to {{ga|Ethan}} and is the female playable character in {{game|Crystal}}. She is from [[New Bark Town]]. Her rival is {{ga|Silver}}.

She was the first female player character in the Pokémon videogame series, a feature that would be carried on in subsequent game releases.

As she only appears in {{game|Crystal}}, she has the least number of a player character appearances. In {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}} she's replaced by {{ga|Lyra}}.

==Storyline in the games==
Kris's journey as a [[Pokémon Trainer]] begins when [[Professor Elm]] asks her to run an errand for [[Mr. Pokémon]], who lives north of [[Cherrygrove City]]. Because she may encounter dangerous [[wild Pokémon]] along the way, Elm gives her a choice between three Pokémon to protect her: {{p|Cyndaquil}}, {{p|Totodile}} or {{p|Chikorita}}.

Kris meets a boy watching Elm's Lab from outside. When she tries to talk to him, the boy abruptly shoves her away. The boy, {{ga|Silver}}, will become Kris's rival, analogous to {{ga|Blue}} in [[Generation I]].

Kris continues onward and finally meets Mr. Pokémon and completes her errand. While there she meets [[Professor Oak]] who, upon realizing Kris's bond with her new Pokémon, gives her a [[Pokédex]]. On her way back home, Kris again meets Silver, who has stolen one of Elm's remaining Pokémon. After defeating the boy in battle, she learns his name and relays it to the police in New Bark Town. Professor Elm allows Kris to keep the Pokémon she chose earlier, and encourages her to compete in the [[Johto League]].

From there Kris begins on a Pokémon journey in the [[Johto]] [[region]], facing off against its eight [[Gym Leader]]s, defeating and disbanding the newly reformed [[Team Rocket]], and becoming [[Pokémon Champion|Pokémon League Champion]] by defeating the [[Elite Four]] and its previous Champion, [[Lance]] at [[Indigo Plateau]]. Along the way she also teaches Silver to respect Pokémon as living creatures and not just as tools for battle. Kris also uncovered the mystery of the [[Bell Tower|Tin Tower]] and its legendary Pokémon, {{p|Entei}}, {{p|Suicune}}, and {{p|Raikou}}.

After being declared the Pokémon League Champion, Kris then takes a short trip on a ship, the [[S.S. Aqua]], from [[Olivine City]] to [[Vermilion City]] in [[Kanto]]. Journeying across that region, she battles against its own set of eight Gym Leaders, including two new faces, [[Janine]], who replaced her father [[Koga]] on his promotion to the Elite Four, and {{ga|Blue}}, who was formerly Pokémon League Champion himself, and replaced [[Giovanni]] after the latter fled. Upon getting permission from [[Professor Oak]] in [[Pallet Town]], Kris heads for [[Mt. Silver]] via {{rt|28|Kanto}}. Her journey comes to a close when she faces the Champion from Pallet Town Pokémon Trainer {{ga|Red}} deep in Mt. Silver Cave, who had been training there since shortly after he became Pokémon League Champion [[Generation I|three years prior]].

==Artwork==
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==Counterparts==
Kris, like the other in-game characters, has an anime counterpart in {{jo|Marina}}. However, the two are not interchangeable and neither name applies to both, much like the case with {{Ash}} and {{ga|Red}}.

Kris's other counterparts include {{adv|Crystal}} from the [[Pokémon Adventures]] manga and {{GnB|Chris}} from the [[Pokémon Gold & Silver: The Golden Boys|Golden Boys]] manga.

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==Trivia==
[[File:BetaCrystal.png|thumb|right|Beta Kris]]
* Kris is the first playable female character in [[Pokémon games]], a feature included in all traditional Pokémon RPGs since. Despite this, the female choice in {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}} is {{ga|Lyra}}, who was designed from scratch by [[Takao Unno]].
* A beta screenshot from {{game|Crystal}} indicates that Kris had a different design at some point in the game's development.
* Kris's alternate Japanese names would later be shared with {{ga|Leaf}}, {{ga|Dawn}}, and {{ga|Lyra}}.
 
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==Other possible inspirations?==
Couple of observations that have been pointed out to me that may have also been part of the inspiration for the quartet. In France, where the Musketeer stories originate, there's a variation of Rock, Paper, Scissors which includes a fourth option: Well. It may be coincidence, but the primary types of the Musketeer quartet seem to reflect this. Rock, Steel/Scissors, Grass/Paper, and Water/Well.
Another, slightly more unlikely proposition I've heard is that the four are based upon the four horsemen, with their livestock basis being a nod towards Arceus'[the God or creator] design as an equine creature. Kobaruon would be Conquest; Terakion, War; Birijion, Famine [its pokedex entry specifying it trifles with opponents, implying a slow demise]; and Keldeo, Death.

Should these possible influences be considered and added to the article at some point? When it comes to design inspiration, most pages tend to take liberties, especially with the newer Pokémon. In any case, I felt the two observations were worth bringing up. [[User:Tindil|Tindil]] 19:10, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

The Rock-Scissors-Paper thing makes a lot of sense to me. Seems like a valid connection.--[[User:Podunk|Podunk]] 07:11, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

== Different name? ==

Okay, so, before, I know, the [[lake guardians]] were called by us the lake trio. And now with Gen V being new, this is the musketeer trio. One problem there, though.

'''''THERE ARE FOUR OF THEM.'''''

So I propose naming this page either musketeer ungulates (goes with the rest of the non-mascot trios, which don't use trio in their name), or legendary ungulates. And yes, I do intend for you guys to stop linking to them at every damned chance. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:05, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
:It's called the three musketeers hence why it's a trio remember, Keldeo(d'Artagnan) isn't considered one yet as he's a new member and Keldeo being based on him should have the same treatment [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 19:09, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
::This is still a dumb name. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 16:43, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

I get an odd feeling to rant about how Keldeo doesn't belong, but something tells me that would get me banned again. So rather than ranting, I'll just list what discludes Keldeo.

*Exhibit A) MASS distance; seven Pokédex slots between Terrakion (last in the lineup) and Keldeo.
*Exhibit B) Altered learnset; knows Aqua Jet rather than Quick Attack, learns Sacred Sword at 43 rather than 42, and is the only one to learn Sword of Mystery.
*Exhibit C) Obtain method; the others roam, and Keldeo is an event Pokémon

To think that I inverbally supported the dragons but am disaproving of musketeer junior here. [[User:Giratina's Embodiment|Giratina's Embodiment]] - [[User talk:Giratina's Embodiment|Please don't hurt us...]] 01:48, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

: 1)You mean Virizion.

2) god forbid it learns something different

3) It's the youngest so it takes longer to learn. and Sword of Mystery is an event so it doesn't count

4) your point? [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 01:53, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, that last part was me just thinking out loud... or something like that. And just because we're making an anology to a story/legend doesn't mean we need to link together every little bit of the story/legend to Pokémon. [[User:Giratina's Embodiment|Giratina's Embodiment]] - [[User talk:Giratina's Embodiment|Please don't hurt us...]] 02:03, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Also, Keldeo is event-exclusive, so yes, Sword of Mystery does, in a way, count. [[User:Giratina's Embodiment|Giratina's Embodiment]] - [[User talk:Giratina's Embodiment|Please don't hurt us...]] 02:07, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Hm... Musketeers doesn't make much sense unless you know the origin, and even then Keldeo doesn't really count, even though it's definitely a counterpart. On the other hand, ungulates is very vague and lame; what would we do if another trio were based on ungulates? We'd have another "Dragon Trio" on our hands. I would lean toward Legendary Musketeers: it's not perfect, but it's the best I can think of. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 14:33, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
:I'm totally with TTE on this one (I actually came to this page to request a move). Sure, it's not a member of the trio, but it is closely related. We could call it "legendary musketeers", "musketeer Pokémon", "musketeer ungulates" or "legendary ungulates". As TTE mentioned, only box legends get trio, and there can be considered to be four of these. Also, unless it was officially stated that they are inspired by the musketeers, this is a poor title choice. "Legendary ungulates" seems to be the best choice. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 02:43, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
::"Ungulates" isn't going to garner favor or use. "Trio" is also not exclusive to box mascot trios; that's simply how it's happened so far (the Raijin/Kami trio will break it if the Three Musketeers don't). How hard is it to call them the Musketeer Quartet? They're going to be called the "musketeers" for short by the rest of the fandom, no matter '''which''' name is used here, ultimately. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 02:59, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
:::But it's debateable whether there re 3 or 4 of them, so just not mentioning it is better. Calling them the "Legendary Musketeers" seems to solve this problem. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:24, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

== Remove Keldeo from the article ==

Just because it's another Fighting legendary doesn't mean the trio is a quartet. Besides, it's not confirmed. [[User:Bwburke94|Bwburke94]] 16:54, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
:ahahahahaha no. Keldeo has a connection to the other three (and yes it happens in game) and it was adopted by them [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 16:58, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

== Trio Master ==
If, as we have noted, Keldeo is not truly part of the trio, and it is (semi) far apart from the others in the Pokedex, wouldn't Keldeo be qualified for Trio Master? This would also save us from the trio/musketeers/quartet dilemma. [[User:Mewtwo777|I am Darth Mewtwo... Fear me, and my team made entirely of Mewtwo!!!]] 18:37, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
:''A Pokémon that is a trio master is one who, in some way, oversees a legendary trio of Pokémon.'' Keldeo does this in no way, as he is the least experienced of the group. Just because he breaks the conventions of the other three, that doesn't make him the master. --[[User:Jda95|'''jda''']][[User talk:Jda95|'''95''']] 03:39, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

== Moving it to Legendary musketeers ==

Is someone approves of this move, say I. Since there are four members, its more likely. [[User:Duo2nd|Duo2nd]] 10:11, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
:I agree. Since it is debatable whether or not Keldeo is part of the trio, it is better to not mention it. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 06:30, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
::I guess there's a difference between "Musketeer Trio" and "The Three Musketeer". They are not a trio, but they are "The Three Musketeer", get it? I mean, the name "Three Musketeer" is about the original three and a friend who came after. Making a gross comparison, it's the same difference between United States of America and America's states united. The latter would be a union of all states all over the continent, and the first is a country's name, although not all states of the America got together to build a country. [[User:Diby esp|Gabriel Rocha (Diby esp)]] 22:40, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
:Can we just call them the "the Musketeers"? No "Legendary", no "trio", no "quartet", no "Muskedeers". There is nothing else in the series that can be called a "musketeer", thus is should not need a "Legendary" to differentiate them from anything else. They're special and unique enough that Musketeer is a big enough blanket term to cover all four of them, or all three of them. Birds are birds (half the flying class), beasts are beasts (most of the ground group), golems are {{p|Golem}}s. Since there will never be a consensus on the numbers, eliminate them. Since there hasn't been anything else based on the Musketeers, no need to separate them with a "Legendary" prefix, because it's obvious they're referring to the legendaries without having to call them that; if this changes in the future, you can talk about it then. But I say make this easy: just call them the Musketeers. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 17:18, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
::I think Luna's thought is a good one, but if that doesn't work, I think the next best would be Legendary musketeers. [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] 23:51, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
:::I think just {{red link|musketeers}} works as well, but I also feel that it implies that they are human; however, the is just a minor complaint, and I would be happy with them at either musketeers or legendary musketeers, just as long as the title does not specify number. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 08:47, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
::::Not that I disagree with this, but the musketeers seem too...general to refer to them. "Legendary Musketeers" at least would highlight the fact they're legendaries. [[User:J-J-M|'''J''']]'''-'''[[User talk:J-J-M|'''J''']]'''-'''[[Special:Contributions/J-J-M|'''M''']] 09:36, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
:::::But why not musketeer quartet? They are with 4 members, and that is a quartet. --[[User:Nazirbashir|Nazirbashir]] 18:20, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
I concur we should move it to Legendary musketeers unless there is a confirmed trio master.Could Cobalion be the master you need to battle him before you can get the others. --[[User:Pokemonboy3000|Pokemonboy3000]] 05:51, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
:Cobalion could be a trio master - I would consider him one - but he's also a part of the trio, which is in fact not a trio, but a quartet, which is the root of the problem. I'm in favor of Legendary Musketeers. [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] 16:19, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
I agree with Luna. [[User:DeniedGrox|DeniedGrox]] 18:23, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

Move to [[Legendary musketeers]] supported. --[[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] 07:47, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

==Les Trois Mousquetaires==
Les Trois Mousquetaires (The Three Musketeer) is a novel by Alexandre Dumas. It talks about Three men and one friend of them, the younger D'Artagnan. So, what's the problem with the name? That perfectly fits the story--[[User:TheFaither|TheFaither]] 19:02, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
:People are literal with their numbers. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 19:35, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

== Official source. based on a The Three Musketeers. ==

It is being described by Nintendo Dream vol.204. [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 19:06, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

== types ==

There types may be refer to the homes of pokémon: rock for cave pokémon, grass for pokémon in the forest, woods or just tall grass, water for pokémon that life in lakes or in the sea and steel may be refer to pokémon that life in the city (like the trash cloak of wormadam). Nickvang 22:47 25 june 2011

== Keldeo is special ==

Keldeo is clearly sticking out. Its an "additional/extra/hidden" member of the legendary trio.

--It is an event pokemon; not obtainable on the actual playthrough; one of those hidden ones at the end of the dex; It doesn't share the battle music because you don't even get to encounter it; You have to drive to a movie or download it via wifi at a specific month in the near future; This is glaringly obvious and causes facepalming.

--It has a unique move which it does not share with the three that teach it: Secret Sword
The unlocking method (bringing the legendary group to a certain place) has been used for making "additional members" of legendary groups appear several times:
*Crystal: Beasts->Ho-oh
*DPt: Lake guardians->dimension legendary
*DP/Pt: golems->Regigigas / Regigigas->golems
*HGSS: Weather duo->Rayquaza
*BW: Kami demons->Harvest Kami

-Even from a lore standpoint: It has not been with them from the start.
The musketeers rescued the orphan from certain death, noticed its potential, and trained it, which surprisingly resulted in it rapidly growing as strong as them, which is when all they had left to teach it was a unique move for it. While it is indeed on par statwise with the trio, consider that it does this while lacking the adult and elegant design accompanied with that on the other three.

Just because it doesn't fit the conventional fan-made term "trio master", does not mean you should force it into the group as a proper member and ignore it being the apprentice. If anything, the term "trio master" needs an update to additional group/duo/trio member. There might as well be weaker additional members someday for example anyway.
--[[User:Saiph charon|Saiph charon]] 18:27, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

:I wonder whether it gaining a "Resolution forme" will finally make the musketeers fit the legendary trio classification again?... Which is what they are, with or without Keldeos existence, they're as much of a trio as any other. Keldeo is the extra, not the norm. Event->unavailable in normal gameplay.... There has always been groups of legendaries that share an equal ammount of similarities, AND have a more special additional member :/ --[[User:Saiph charon|Saiph charon]] 07:28, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

== Move ==

Will you please move this page to "Sacred swordsmen"? [[User:SaturnMario|SaturnMario]], [[User talk:SaturnMario|his talk]] and [[Special:Contributions/SaturnMario|his contributions]] 23:35, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
:I think Legendary Musketeers is fine. Sacred Swordsmen is the Japanese name, and we generally go with the English name for the page title. [[User:MatchMaster|MatchMaster]] ([[User talk:MatchMaster|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/MatchMaster|Contribs]]) 00:38, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
::I think it's better to just wait for the dub of [[M15]] to come out and see how TPCI will translate this. --[[User:神奇超龍|'''Chao''']]「'''[[User talk:神奇超龍|超龍]]'''」 02:45, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
:::My two cents: I understand that they are based on the Three Musketeers. Still, why are they actually called the Musketeer Trio (or Legendary Musketeers, whichever you prefer,) at all? A musketeer is a soldier equipped with a musket, and these Pokémon do not seem to be wielding muskets. If you're not interested in nitpicking the wording, the theme of RSE was centered around ecological balance, yet the legendary trio is not called the 'Ecological Trio'. Groudon and Kyogre comprise the Weather Duo, so named based upon the Pokémon, not what they represent. 'Sacred Swordsmen' seems to be based more on the Pokémon themselves. We could also do as the last post suggests. Regardless of the debate, I think referring to a Pokémon as a musketeer may simply send the wrong message. Here end my thoughts for the penny jar. [[User:SaxyOmega90125|SaxyOmega90125]] ([[User talk:SaxyOmega90125|talk]]) 04:03, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
::::"Musketeer" may literally mean a soldier wielding a musket, but in common modern parlance it's rarely used except to refer to ''The Three Musketeers'', so I see no problem with keeping the current name until TPCI translates M15, and possibly beyond that indefinitely if, for some reason, the movie avoids translating the term. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 06:04, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
:::::If the movie avoids translating it, I would rather use "sacred swordsmen" (but I don't know how they would manage that). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 06:06, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
::::::People, just because the ''Three Muskteers'' ''has "Three" in '''it doesn't mean''' its Three Musketeers'', their Japanese name ''is'' "Scared Swords Men", but lets keep the American Name. -[[User:Clubchloe1|'''Club''']][[User talk:Clubchloe1|'''chloe''']][[Special:Contributions/Clubchloe1|'''1''']] 19:52, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
:::::::I think we should just wait until the dub name of the move is released. [[User:Satoshi101|サトシ101]] ([[User talk:Satoshi101|talk]]) 00:58, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
::::::::Pokemon.com officially names the trio on the movie page as the Swords of Justice. While we should wait for the movie to be released since Pokemon.com has made mistakes before, as of now, Swords of Justice I think is the most official term used for them (similar to the Lake Guardians). [[User:Pocketfanmk|Pocketfanmk]] ([[User talk:Pocketfanmk|talk]]) 06:54, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
:::::::::No. Swords of Justice is clearly the official English term. The title confirms that it's not a mistake. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 07:08, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
::::::::::Oh, right. Well there you go. We move to Swords of Justice, yes? It's official and everything. [[User:Pocketfanmk|Pocketfanmk]] ([[User talk:Pocketfanmk|talk]]) 01:37, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Swords of Justice/Archive 1

2012-09-18T06:54:12Z

Pocketfanmk: /* Move */

==Other possible inspirations?==
Couple of observations that have been pointed out to me that may have also been part of the inspiration for the quartet. In France, where the Musketeer stories originate, there's a variation of Rock, Paper, Scissors which includes a fourth option: Well. It may be coincidence, but the primary types of the Musketeer quartet seem to reflect this. Rock, Steel/Scissors, Grass/Paper, and Water/Well.
Another, slightly more unlikely proposition I've heard is that the four are based upon the four horsemen, with their livestock basis being a nod towards Arceus'[the God or creator] design as an equine creature. Kobaruon would be Conquest; Terakion, War; Birijion, Famine [its pokedex entry specifying it trifles with opponents, implying a slow demise]; and Keldeo, Death.

Should these possible influences be considered and added to the article at some point? When it comes to design inspiration, most pages tend to take liberties, especially with the newer Pokémon. In any case, I felt the two observations were worth bringing up. [[User:Tindil|Tindil]] 19:10, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

The Rock-Scissors-Paper thing makes a lot of sense to me. Seems like a valid connection.--[[User:Podunk|Podunk]] 07:11, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

== Different name? ==

Okay, so, before, I know, the [[lake guardians]] were called by us the lake trio. And now with Gen V being new, this is the musketeer trio. One problem there, though.

'''''THERE ARE FOUR OF THEM.'''''

So I propose naming this page either musketeer ungulates (goes with the rest of the non-mascot trios, which don't use trio in their name), or legendary ungulates. And yes, I do intend for you guys to stop linking to them at every damned chance. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:05, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
:It's called the three musketeers hence why it's a trio remember, Keldeo(d'Artagnan) isn't considered one yet as he's a new member and Keldeo being based on him should have the same treatment [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 19:09, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
::This is still a dumb name. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 16:43, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

I get an odd feeling to rant about how Keldeo doesn't belong, but something tells me that would get me banned again. So rather than ranting, I'll just list what discludes Keldeo.

*Exhibit A) MASS distance; seven Pokédex slots between Terrakion (last in the lineup) and Keldeo.
*Exhibit B) Altered learnset; knows Aqua Jet rather than Quick Attack, learns Sacred Sword at 43 rather than 42, and is the only one to learn Sword of Mystery.
*Exhibit C) Obtain method; the others roam, and Keldeo is an event Pokémon

To think that I inverbally supported the dragons but am disaproving of musketeer junior here. [[User:Giratina's Embodiment|Giratina's Embodiment]] - [[User talk:Giratina's Embodiment|Please don't hurt us...]] 01:48, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

: 1)You mean Virizion.

2) god forbid it learns something different

3) It's the youngest so it takes longer to learn. and Sword of Mystery is an event so it doesn't count

4) your point? [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 01:53, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, that last part was me just thinking out loud... or something like that. And just because we're making an anology to a story/legend doesn't mean we need to link together every little bit of the story/legend to Pokémon. [[User:Giratina's Embodiment|Giratina's Embodiment]] - [[User talk:Giratina's Embodiment|Please don't hurt us...]] 02:03, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Also, Keldeo is event-exclusive, so yes, Sword of Mystery does, in a way, count. [[User:Giratina's Embodiment|Giratina's Embodiment]] - [[User talk:Giratina's Embodiment|Please don't hurt us...]] 02:07, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Hm... Musketeers doesn't make much sense unless you know the origin, and even then Keldeo doesn't really count, even though it's definitely a counterpart. On the other hand, ungulates is very vague and lame; what would we do if another trio were based on ungulates? We'd have another "Dragon Trio" on our hands. I would lean toward Legendary Musketeers: it's not perfect, but it's the best I can think of. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 14:33, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
:I'm totally with TTE on this one (I actually came to this page to request a move). Sure, it's not a member of the trio, but it is closely related. We could call it "legendary musketeers", "musketeer Pokémon", "musketeer ungulates" or "legendary ungulates". As TTE mentioned, only box legends get trio, and there can be considered to be four of these. Also, unless it was officially stated that they are inspired by the musketeers, this is a poor title choice. "Legendary ungulates" seems to be the best choice. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 02:43, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
::"Ungulates" isn't going to garner favor or use. "Trio" is also not exclusive to box mascot trios; that's simply how it's happened so far (the Raijin/Kami trio will break it if the Three Musketeers don't). How hard is it to call them the Musketeer Quartet? They're going to be called the "musketeers" for short by the rest of the fandom, no matter '''which''' name is used here, ultimately. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 02:59, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
:::But it's debateable whether there re 3 or 4 of them, so just not mentioning it is better. Calling them the "Legendary Musketeers" seems to solve this problem. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:24, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

== Remove Keldeo from the article ==

Just because it's another Fighting legendary doesn't mean the trio is a quartet. Besides, it's not confirmed. [[User:Bwburke94|Bwburke94]] 16:54, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
:ahahahahaha no. Keldeo has a connection to the other three (and yes it happens in game) and it was adopted by them [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 16:58, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

== Trio Master ==
If, as we have noted, Keldeo is not truly part of the trio, and it is (semi) far apart from the others in the Pokedex, wouldn't Keldeo be qualified for Trio Master? This would also save us from the trio/musketeers/quartet dilemma. [[User:Mewtwo777|I am Darth Mewtwo... Fear me, and my team made entirely of Mewtwo!!!]] 18:37, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
:''A Pokémon that is a trio master is one who, in some way, oversees a legendary trio of Pokémon.'' Keldeo does this in no way, as he is the least experienced of the group. Just because he breaks the conventions of the other three, that doesn't make him the master. --[[User:Jda95|'''jda''']][[User talk:Jda95|'''95''']] 03:39, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

== Moving it to Legendary musketeers ==

Is someone approves of this move, say I. Since there are four members, its more likely. [[User:Duo2nd|Duo2nd]] 10:11, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
:I agree. Since it is debatable whether or not Keldeo is part of the trio, it is better to not mention it. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 06:30, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
::I guess there's a difference between "Musketeer Trio" and "The Three Musketeer". They are not a trio, but they are "The Three Musketeer", get it? I mean, the name "Three Musketeer" is about the original three and a friend who came after. Making a gross comparison, it's the same difference between United States of America and America's states united. The latter would be a union of all states all over the continent, and the first is a country's name, although not all states of the America got together to build a country. [[User:Diby esp|Gabriel Rocha (Diby esp)]] 22:40, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
:Can we just call them the "the Musketeers"? No "Legendary", no "trio", no "quartet", no "Muskedeers". There is nothing else in the series that can be called a "musketeer", thus is should not need a "Legendary" to differentiate them from anything else. They're special and unique enough that Musketeer is a big enough blanket term to cover all four of them, or all three of them. Birds are birds (half the flying class), beasts are beasts (most of the ground group), golems are {{p|Golem}}s. Since there will never be a consensus on the numbers, eliminate them. Since there hasn't been anything else based on the Musketeers, no need to separate them with a "Legendary" prefix, because it's obvious they're referring to the legendaries without having to call them that; if this changes in the future, you can talk about it then. But I say make this easy: just call them the Musketeers. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 17:18, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
::I think Luna's thought is a good one, but if that doesn't work, I think the next best would be Legendary musketeers. [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] 23:51, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
:::I think just {{red link|musketeers}} works as well, but I also feel that it implies that they are human; however, the is just a minor complaint, and I would be happy with them at either musketeers or legendary musketeers, just as long as the title does not specify number. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 08:47, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
::::Not that I disagree with this, but the musketeers seem too...general to refer to them. "Legendary Musketeers" at least would highlight the fact they're legendaries. [[User:J-J-M|'''J''']]'''-'''[[User talk:J-J-M|'''J''']]'''-'''[[Special:Contributions/J-J-M|'''M''']] 09:36, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
:::::But why not musketeer quartet? They are with 4 members, and that is a quartet. --[[User:Nazirbashir|Nazirbashir]] 18:20, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
I concur we should move it to Legendary musketeers unless there is a confirmed trio master.Could Cobalion be the master you need to battle him before you can get the others. --[[User:Pokemonboy3000|Pokemonboy3000]] 05:51, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
:Cobalion could be a trio master - I would consider him one - but he's also a part of the trio, which is in fact not a trio, but a quartet, which is the root of the problem. I'm in favor of Legendary Musketeers. [[User:Ikarishipper900|Ikarishipper900]] 16:19, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
I agree with Luna. [[User:DeniedGrox|DeniedGrox]] 18:23, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

Move to [[Legendary musketeers]] supported. --[[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] 07:47, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

==Les Trois Mousquetaires==
Les Trois Mousquetaires (The Three Musketeer) is a novel by Alexandre Dumas. It talks about Three men and one friend of them, the younger D'Artagnan. So, what's the problem with the name? That perfectly fits the story--[[User:TheFaither|TheFaither]] 19:02, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
:People are literal with their numbers. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 19:35, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

== Official source. based on a The Three Musketeers. ==

It is being described by Nintendo Dream vol.204. [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 19:06, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

== types ==

There types may be refer to the homes of pokémon: rock for cave pokémon, grass for pokémon in the forest, woods or just tall grass, water for pokémon that life in lakes or in the sea and steel may be refer to pokémon that life in the city (like the trash cloak of wormadam). Nickvang 22:47 25 june 2011

== Keldeo is special ==

Keldeo is clearly sticking out. Its an "additional/extra/hidden" member of the legendary trio.

--It is an event pokemon; not obtainable on the actual playthrough; one of those hidden ones at the end of the dex; It doesn't share the battle music because you don't even get to encounter it; You have to drive to a movie or download it via wifi at a specific month in the near future; This is glaringly obvious and causes facepalming.

--It has a unique move which it does not share with the three that teach it: Secret Sword
The unlocking method (bringing the legendary group to a certain place) has been used for making "additional members" of legendary groups appear several times:
*Crystal: Beasts->Ho-oh
*DPt: Lake guardians->dimension legendary
*DP/Pt: golems->Regigigas / Regigigas->golems
*HGSS: Weather duo->Rayquaza
*BW: Kami demons->Harvest Kami

-Even from a lore standpoint: It has not been with them from the start.
The musketeers rescued the orphan from certain death, noticed its potential, and trained it, which surprisingly resulted in it rapidly growing as strong as them, which is when all they had left to teach it was a unique move for it. While it is indeed on par statwise with the trio, consider that it does this while lacking the adult and elegant design accompanied with that on the other three.

Just because it doesn't fit the conventional fan-made term "trio master", does not mean you should force it into the group as a proper member and ignore it being the apprentice. If anything, the term "trio master" needs an update to additional group/duo/trio member. There might as well be weaker additional members someday for example anyway.
--[[User:Saiph charon|Saiph charon]] 18:27, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

:I wonder whether it gaining a "Resolution forme" will finally make the musketeers fit the legendary trio classification again?... Which is what they are, with or without Keldeos existence, they're as much of a trio as any other. Keldeo is the extra, not the norm. Event->unavailable in normal gameplay.... There has always been groups of legendaries that share an equal ammount of similarities, AND have a more special additional member :/ --[[User:Saiph charon|Saiph charon]] 07:28, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

== Move ==

Will you please move this page to "Sacred swordsmen"? [[User:SaturnMario|SaturnMario]], [[User talk:SaturnMario|his talk]] and [[Special:Contributions/SaturnMario|his contributions]] 23:35, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
:I think Legendary Musketeers is fine. Sacred Swordsmen is the Japanese name, and we generally go with the English name for the page title. [[User:MatchMaster|MatchMaster]] ([[User talk:MatchMaster|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/MatchMaster|Contribs]]) 00:38, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
::I think it's better to just wait for the dub of [[M15]] to come out and see how TPCI will translate this. --[[User:神奇超龍|'''Chao''']]「'''[[User talk:神奇超龍|超龍]]'''」 02:45, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
:::My two cents: I understand that they are based on the Three Musketeers. Still, why are they actually called the Musketeer Trio (or Legendary Musketeers, whichever you prefer,) at all? A musketeer is a soldier equipped with a musket, and these Pokémon do not seem to be wielding muskets. If you're not interested in nitpicking the wording, the theme of RSE was centered around ecological balance, yet the legendary trio is not called the 'Ecological Trio'. Groudon and Kyogre comprise the Weather Duo, so named based upon the Pokémon, not what they represent. 'Sacred Swordsmen' seems to be based more on the Pokémon themselves. We could also do as the last post suggests. Regardless of the debate, I think referring to a Pokémon as a musketeer may simply send the wrong message. Here end my thoughts for the penny jar. [[User:SaxyOmega90125|SaxyOmega90125]] ([[User talk:SaxyOmega90125|talk]]) 04:03, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
::::"Musketeer" may literally mean a soldier wielding a musket, but in common modern parlance it's rarely used except to refer to ''The Three Musketeers'', so I see no problem with keeping the current name until TPCI translates M15, and possibly beyond that indefinitely if, for some reason, the movie avoids translating the term. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 06:04, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
:::::If the movie avoids translating it, I would rather use "sacred swordsmen" (but I don't know how they would manage that). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 06:06, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
::::::People, just because the ''Three Muskteers'' ''has "Three" in '''it doesn't mean''' its Three Musketeers'', their Japanese name ''is'' "Scared Swords Men", but lets keep the American Name. -[[User:Clubchloe1|'''Club''']][[User talk:Clubchloe1|'''chloe''']][[Special:Contributions/Clubchloe1|'''1''']] 19:52, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
:::::::I think we should just wait until the dub name of the move is released. [[User:Satoshi101|サトシ101]] ([[User talk:Satoshi101|talk]]) 00:58, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
::::::::Pokemon.com officially names the trio on the movie page as the Swords of Justice. While we should wait for the movie to be released since Pokemon.com has made mistakes before, as of now, Swords of Justice I think is the most official term used for them (similar to the Lake Guardians). [[User:Pocketfanmk|Pocketfanmk]] ([[User talk:Pocketfanmk|talk]]) 06:54, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

List of game characters

2012-02-21T01:12:49Z

Pocketfanmk: I've done what I can do for now :( But can somebody add some overworlds to the archives?

{{cleanup}}
The following is a '''list of characters that appear in the games''', listed by game in chronological order of its release. It should be noted that the games {{g|Snap}} and {{ga|Pokémon Ranger}} are associated with the generations of their release, although they are not actually games of those generations.

New {{OBP|Pokémon|species}} also debuted at the launch of each generation.

==[[Generation I]]==
==={{game|Red and Blue|s}}===
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| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Kanto color dark}}; background: #{{Blue color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:RB Oak.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Kanto color dark}}; background: #{{Blue color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Kanto color dark}}; background: #{{Blue color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:Brockblue.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Kanto color dark}}; background: #{{Blue color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:Misty Blue.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Kanto color dark}}; background: #{{Blue color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:LtSurgeBlue.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Kanto color dark}}; background: #{{Blue color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:ErikaRBYsprite.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Kanto color dark}}; background: #{{Blue color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:KogaBlue.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Kanto color dark}}; background: #{{Blue color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:Sabrina Blue.png]]
|- align=center style="font-size: 80%;"
| {{color2|000|Red (game)|Red}}
| {{color2|000|Blue (game)|Blue}}
| {{color2|000|Professor Oak}}
| {{color2|000|Daisy Oak}}
| {{color2|000|Brock}}
| {{color2|000|Misty}}
| {{color2|000|Lt. Surge}}
| {{color2|000|Erika}}
| {{color2|000|Koga}}
| {{color2|000|Sabrina}}
|- align=center
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| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Kanto color dark}}; background: #{{Blue color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:Giovanni RB.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Kanto color dark}}; background: #{{Blue color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:RBLorelei.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Kanto color dark}}; background: #{{Blue color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:RB Bruno.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Kanto color dark}}; background: #{{Blue color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:RB Agatha.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Kanto color dark}}; background: #{{Blue color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:LanceRB.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Kanto color dark}}; background: #{{Blue color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Kanto color dark}}; background: #{{Blue color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Kanto color dark}}; background: #{{Blue color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Kanto color dark}}; background: #{{Blue color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
|- align=center style="font-size: 80%;"
| {{color2|000|Blaine}}
| {{color2|000|Giovanni}}
| {{color2|000|Lorelei}}
| {{color2|000|Bruno}}
| {{color2|000|Agatha}}
| {{color2|000|Lance}}
| {{color2|000|Bill}}
| {{color2|000|Mr. Fuji}}
| {{color2|000|Mr. Psychic}}
| {{color2|000|Copycat (character)|Copycat}}

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| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Kanto color dark}}; background: #{{Blue color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:GenIRocket.png]]
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| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Kanto color dark}}; background: #{{Blue color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:GenIBlackbelt.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Kanto color dark}}; background: #{{Blue color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Kanto color dark}}; background: #{{Blue color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Kanto color dark}}; background: #{{Blue color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:RB Old Man.png]]
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| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Kanto color dark}}; background: #{{Blue color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:Ghost I.png]]
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| {{color2|000|Baoba|Safari Zone Warden}}
| {{color2|000|Team Rocket}}
| {{color2|000|Pokémon Center Nurse|Pokémon Center Nurses}}
| {{color2|000|Kiyo}}
| Red's {{color2|000|mom}}
| {{color2|000|Name Rater|Kanto Name Rater}}
| {{color2|000|Old man (Kanto)|Old man}}
| {{color2|000|Professors' aides|Professor Oak's aides}}
| {{color2|000|Literal ghost}}
| {{color2|000|Marowak (literal ghost)|Ghost Marowak}}
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==={{game|Yellow}}===
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|- align=center style="font-size: 80%;"
| {{color2|000|Red's Pikachu (game)|Red's Pikachu}}
| {{color2|000|Jessie}} and {{color2|000|James}}
|}
 

===[[Pokémon Trading Card Game (game)|Pokémon Trading Card Game]]===
* [[Mark]]
* [[Ronald]]

* [[Dr. Mason]]
* [[Tech Sam|Technician Sam]]
* [[Tech Aaron|Technician Aaron]]

* [[Fighting Club]] [[Club Master Mitch|Master Mitch]]
** [[Club Member Chris]]
** [[Club Member Jessica]]
** [[Club Member Michael]]

* [[Fire Club]] [[Club Master Ken|Master Ken]]
** [[Club Member Adam]]
** [[Club Member John]]
** [[Club Member Jonathan]]

* [[Grass Club]] [[Club Master Nikki|Master Nikki]]
** [[Club Member Brittany]]
** [[Club Member Heather]]
** [[Club Member Kristin]]

* [[Lightning Club]] [[Club Master Isaac|Master Isaac]]
** [[Club Member Brandon]]
** [[Club Member Jennifer]]
** [[Club Member Nicholas]]

* [[Psychic Club]] [[Club Master Murray|Master Murray]]
** [[Club Member Daniel]]
** [[Club Member Robert]]
** [[Club Member Stephanie]]

* [[Rock Club]] [[Club Master Gene|Master Gene]]
** [[Club Member Andrew]]
** [[Club Member Matthew]]
** [[Club Member Ryan]]

* [[Science Club]] [[Club Master Rick|Master Rick]]
** [[Club Member David]]
** [[Club Member Erik]]
** [[Club Member Joseph]]

* [[Water Club]] [[Club Master Amy|Master Amy]]
** [[Club Member Amanda]]
** [[Club Member Joshua]]
** [[Club Member Sara]]

* [[Grand Master Courtney]]
* [[Grand Master Steve]]
* [[Grand Master Jack]]
* [[Grand Master Rod]]

* [[Ishihara|Mr. Ishihara]]
* [[Tomoaki Imakuni|Imakuni?]]

==={{g|Snap}}===
* [[Todd Snap|Todd]]

==[[Generation II]]==
==={{game|Gold and Silver|s}}===
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|- align=center
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Johto color dark}}; background: #{{Silver color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:GS Ethan.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Johto color dark}}; background: #{{Silver color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:GSC Silver Johto.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Johto color dark}}; background: #{{Silver color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:Elm II OD.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Johto color dark}}; background: #{{Silver color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Johto color dark}}; background: #{{Silver color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:LeaderFalkner_GSC.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Johto color dark}}; background: #{{Silver color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:LeaderBugsy_GSC.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Johto color dark}}; background: #{{Silver color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:LeaderWhitney_GSC.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Johto color dark}}; background: #{{Silver color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:LeaderMorty_GSC.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Johto color dark}}; background: #{{Silver color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:LeaderChuck_GSC.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Johto color dark}}; background: #{{Silver color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:LeaderJasmine_GSC.png]]
|- align=center style="font-size: 80%;"
| {{color2|000|Ethan (game)|Ethan}}
| {{color2|000|Silver (game)|Silver}}
| {{color2|000|Professor Elm}}
| {{color2|000|Mr. Pokémon}}
| {{color2|000|Falkner}}
| {{color2|000|Bugsy}}
| {{color2|000|Whitney}}
| {{color2|000|Morty}}
| {{color2|000|Chuck}}
| {{color2|000|Jasmine}}
|- align=center
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Johto color dark}}; background: #{{Silver color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:LeaderPryce_GSC.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Johto color dark}}; background: #{{Silver color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:LeaderClair_GSC.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Johto color dark}}; background: #{{Silver color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:WillGSCsprite.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Johto color dark}}; background: #{{Silver color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:GSC_Karen.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Johto color dark}}; background: #{{Silver color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:GSC_Janine.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Johto color dark}}; background: #{{Silver color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:GSC_Rocket_ExecutiveM.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Johto color dark}}; background: #{{Silver color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:GSC_Rocket_ExecutiveF.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Johto color dark}}; background: #{{Silver color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:GSC_Rocket_ExecutiveM.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Johto color dark}}; background: #{{Silver color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:GSC_Rocket_ExecutiveM.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Johto color dark}}; background: #{{Silver color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
|- align=center style="font-size: 80%;"
| {{color2|000|Pryce}}
| {{color2|000|Clair}}
| {{color2|000|Will}}
| {{color2|000|Karen}}
| {{color2|000|Janine}}
| {{color2|000|Archer}}
| {{color2|000|Ariana}}
| {{color2|000|Petrel}}
| {{color2|000|Proton}}
| {{color2|000|Earl_Dervish|Earl Dervish}}
|- align=center
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Johto color dark}}; background: #{{Silver color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Johto color dark}}; background: #{{Silver color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Johto color dark}}; background: #{{Silver color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Johto color dark}}; background: #{{Silver color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Johto color dark}}; background: #{{Silver color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Johto color dark}}; background: #{{Silver color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Johto color dark}}; background: #{{Silver color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:GS Ethan.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Johto color dark}}; background: #{{Silver color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Johto color dark}}; background: #{{Silver color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Johto color dark}}; background: #{{Silver color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:Spr_2g_181.png]]
|- align=center style="font-size: 80%;"
| {{color2|000|DJ_Mary|DJ Mary}}
| {{color2|000|DJ#Ben|Ben}}
| {{color2|000|DJ#Snap|Snap}}
| {{color2|000|DJ#Lily|Lily}}
| {{color2|000|Week_Siblings|Week Siblings}}
| {{color2|000|Kurt}}
| {{color2|000|Cal_(game)|Cal}}
| {{color2|000|Webster (Johto)|Randy}}
| {{color2|000|Carrie}}
| {{color2|000|Amphy}}
|- align=center
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Johto color dark}}; background: #{{Silver color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:GSC Dude Back.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Johto color dark}}; background: #{{Silver color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Johto color dark}}; background: #{{Silver color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:GSC Youngster.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Johto color dark}}; background: #{{Silver color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:GSC_Biker.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Johto color dark}}; background: #{{Silver color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:GSC KimonoGirl.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Johto color dark}}; background: #{{Silver color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Johto color dark}}; background: #{{Silver color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Johto color dark}}; background: #{{Silver color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Johto color dark}}; background: #{{Silver color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Johto color dark}}; background: #{{Silver color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
|- align=center style="font-size: 80%;"
| {{color2|000|Dude}}
| {{color2|000|DJ#Fern|Fern}}
| {{color2|000|Joey}}
| {{color2|000|Kanto Pokémon Federation}}
| {{color2|000|Kimono Girl|Kimono Girls}}
| {{color2|000|Maisy|Kurt's Granddaughter}}
| {{color2|000|Move Deleter|Johto Move Deleter}}
| {{color2|000|Name Rater|Johto Name Rater}}
| {{color2|000|Professors' aides|Professor Elm's Aide}}
| {{color2|000|Radio Director}}
|- align=center
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Johto color dark}}; background: #{{Silver color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:Spr_2s_130_s.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Johto color dark}}; background: #{{Silver color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Johto color dark}}; background: #{{Silver color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Johto color dark}}; background: #{{Silver color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:GSC Sage.png]]
|- align=center style="font-size: 80%;"
| {{color2|000|Red Gyarados}}
| {{color2|000|DJ#Reed|Reed}}
| {{color2|000|Mom|Player's Mom}}
| {{color2|000|Li}}
|}
 

==={{game|Crystal}}===
{| align="center" style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{Crystal color dark}}; background: #{{Crystal color}};"
|- align=center
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Crystal color dark}}; background: #{{Crystal color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:C Kris.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Crystal color dark}}; background: #{{Crystal color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:Eusinesprite.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Crystal color dark}}; background: #{{Crystal color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Crystal color dark}}; background: #{{Crystal color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
|- align=center style="font-size: 80%;"
| {{color2|000|Kris}}
| {{color2|000|Eusine}}
| {{color2|000|Buena}}
| {{color2|000|Dragon Clan Elder}}
|}
 

==[[Generation III]]==
==={{game|Ruby and Sapphire|s}}===
{| align="center" style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{Hoenn color dark}}; background: #{{Ruby color}};"
|- align=center
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Hoenn color dark}}; background: #{{Sapphire color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:RS Brendan.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Hoenn color dark}}; background: #{{Sapphire color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:RS May.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Hoenn color dark}}; background: #{{Sapphire color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:Professor Birch Sprite.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Hoenn color dark}}; background: #{{Sapphire color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:SpriteRoxanne.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Hoenn color dark}}; background: #{{Sapphire color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:SpriteBrawly.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Hoenn color dark}}; background: #{{Sapphire color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:SpriteWattson.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Hoenn color dark}}; background: #{{Sapphire color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:SpriteFlannery.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Hoenn color dark}}; background: #{{Sapphire color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:SpriteNorman.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Hoenn color dark}}; background: #{{Sapphire color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:SpriteWinona.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Hoenn color dark}}; background: #{{Sapphire color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:SpriteTateandLiza.png]]
|- align=center style="font-size: 80%;"
| {{color2|000|Brendan (game)|Brendan}}
| {{color2|000|May (game)|May}}
| {{color2|000|Professor Birch}}
| {{color2|000|Roxanne}}
| {{color2|000|Brawly}}
| {{color2|000|Wattson}}
| {{color2|000|Flannery}}
| {{color2|000|Norman}}
| {{color2|000|Winona}}
| {{color2|000|Tate and Liza}}
|- align=center
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Hoenn color dark}}; background: #{{Sapphire color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:SpriteWallace.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Hoenn color dark}}; background: #{{Sapphire color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:E Sidney.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Hoenn color dark}}; background: #{{Sapphire color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:E Phoebe.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Hoenn color dark}}; background: #{{Sapphire color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:E Glacia.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Hoenn color dark}}; background: #{{Sapphire color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:E Drake.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Hoenn color dark}}; background: #{{Sapphire color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:RS Steven.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Hoenn color dark}}; background: #{{Sapphire color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Hoenn color dark}}; background: #{{Sapphire color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Hoenn color dark}}; background: #{{Sapphire color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:RSE Wally.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Hoenn color dark}}; background: #{{Sapphire color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
|- align=center style="font-size: 80%;"
| {{color2|000|Wallace}}
| {{color2|000|Sidney}}
| {{color2|000|Phoebe}}
| {{color2|000|Glacia}}
| {{color2|000|Drake}}
| {{color2|000|Steven Stone}}
| {{color2|000|Mr. Briney}}
| {{color2|000|Mr. Stone}}
| {{color2|000|Wally}}
| {{color2|000|Lanette}}
|- align=center
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Hoenn color dark}}; background: #{{Sapphire color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:Interview.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Hoenn color dark}}; background: #{{Sapphire color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Hoenn color dark}}; background: #{{Sapphire color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Hoenn color dark}}; background: #{{Sapphire color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Hoenn color dark}}; background: #{{Sapphire color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:RSE PokeFanM.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Hoenn color dark}}; background: #{{Sapphire color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Hoenn color dark}}; background: #{{Sapphire color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:RSE MagmaGruntF.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Hoenn color dark}}; background: #{{Sapphire color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:RSE AquaGruntM.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Hoenn color dark}}; background: #{{Sapphire color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:AquaLeaderArchie.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Hoenn color dark}}; background: #{{Sapphire color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:MagmaBossMaxie.png]]
|- align=center style="font-size: 80%;"
| {{color2|000|Gabby & Ty}}
| {{color2|000|Professor Cozmo}}
| {{color2|000|Rydel}}
| {{color2|000|Wanda}}
| {{color2|000|Winstrate Family}}
| {{color2|000|Captain Stern}}
| {{color2|000|Team Magma}}
| {{color2|000|Team Aqua}}
| {{color2|000|Archie}}
| {{color2|000|Maxie}}
|- align=center
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Hoenn color dark}}; background: #{{Sapphire color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:Tabithasprite.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Hoenn color dark}}; background: #{{Sapphire color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:Courtney Sprite.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Hoenn color dark}}; background: #{{Sapphire color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:Mattsprite.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Hoenn color dark}}; background: #{{Sapphire color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:Shelly sprite.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Hoenn color dark}}; background: #{{Sapphire color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Hoenn color dark}}; background: #{{Sapphire color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Hoenn color dark}}; background: #{{Sapphire color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Hoenn color dark}}; background: #{{Sapphire color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Hoenn color dark}}; background: #{{Sapphire color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Hoenn color dark}}; background: #{{Sapphire color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
|- align=center style="font-size: 80%;"
| {{color2|000|Tabitha}}
| {{color2|000|Magma Admin Courtney|Courtney}}
| {{color2|000|Aqua Admin Matt|Matt}}
| {{color2|000|Shelly}}
| {{color2|000|Diving Treasure Hunter}}
| {{color2|000|Dock}}
| {{color2|000|Fossil Maniac}}
| {{color2|000|Kiri}}
| {{color2|000|Mom|Player's Mom}}
| {{color2|000|Move Deleter|Hoenn Move Deleter}}
|- align=center
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Hoenn color dark}}; background: #{{Sapphire color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Hoenn color dark}}; background: #{{Sapphire color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:Spr 3r 278.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Hoenn color dark}}; background: #{{Sapphire color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Hoenn color dark}}; background: #{{Sapphire color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:RSE BattleGirl.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Hoenn color dark}}; background: #{{Sapphire color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
|- align=center style="font-size: 80%;"
| {{color2|000|Name Rater|Hoenn Name Rater}}
| {{color2|000|Peeko}}
| {{color2|000|Pokemon Center Men}}
| {{color2|000|Shauna}}
| {{color2|000|Trick Master}}
|}
 

==={{g|Box Ruby & Sapphire}}===
* [[Brigette]]

===[[Pokémon Colosseum]]===
* [[Wes]]
* [[Rui]]
* [[Team Snagem]]
* [[Gonzap]]
* [[Cipher]]
* [[Miror B.]]
* [[Mirakle B.]]
* [[Dakim]]
* [[Venus]]
* [[Ein]]
* [[Nascour]]
* [[Mayor Es Cade]]
* [[Justy]]
* [[Duking]]
* [[Silva]]
* [[Fateen]]
* [[Chief Sherles]]
* [[Officer Johnson]]
* [[Nett]]
* [[Perr]]
* [[Megg]]
* [[Bitt]]
* [[Secc]]
* [[Eagun]]
* [[Beluh]]
* [[Agnol]]
* [[Folly]]
* [[Trudly]]
* [[Reath]]
* [[Ferma]]
* [[Cail]]
* [[Agrev]]
* [[Ancha]]
* [[Biden]]
* [[Bluno]]
* [[Cipher Peons in Pokémon Colosseum]]
* [[Duking]]
* [[Evice]]
* [[Fein]]
* [[Ferma]]
* [[Infin]]
* [[Inity]]
* [[Makan]]
* [[Marcia]]
* [[Move Deleter|Orre Move Deleter]]
* [[Name Rater|Orre Name Rater]]
* [[Reath]]
* [[Rosso]]
* [[Shadow Pokémon Trainers in Pokémon Colosseum]]
* [[Skrub]]
* [[Somek]]
* [[Vander]]
* [[Verde]]
* [[Wakin]]
* [[Willie]]

==={{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}}===
{| align="center" style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{Kanto color dark}}; background: #{{FireRed color}};"
|- align=center
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Kanto color dark}}; background: #{{LeafGreen color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:FRLG Leaf.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Kanto color dark}}; background: #{{LeafGreen color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Kanto color dark}}; background: #{{LeafGreen color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Kanto color dark}}; background: #{{LeafGreen color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:FL Lady.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Kanto color dark}}; background: #{{LeafGreen color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:FL Scientist.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Kanto color dark}}; background: #{{LeafGreen color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:Poké Dude.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Kanto color dark}}; background: #{{LeafGreen color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
|- align=center style="font-size: 80%;"
| {{color2|000|Leaf (game)|Leaf}}
| {{color2|000|Celio}}
| {{color2|000|Lostelle}}
| {{color2|000|Selphy}}
| {{color2|000|Gideon}}
| {{color2|000|Primo}}
| {{color2|000|Move Deleter|Kanto Move Deleter}}
|}
 

===[[Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness]]===
* [[Michael]]
* [[Shadow Lugia]]
* [[Professor Krane]]
* {{OBP|Lily|XD}}
* [[Jovi]]
* [[Lovrina]]
* [[Gorigan]]
* [[Eldes]]
* [[Ardos]]
* [[Snattle]]
* [[Mr. Verich]]
* [[Dr. Kaminko]]
* [[Chobin]]
* [[Naps]]
* [[Zook]]
* [[Battlus]]
* [[Beluh]]
* [[Cipher Peons in Pokémon XD]]
* [[Exol]]
* [[Greevil]]
* [[Hexagon Brothers]]
** [[Hexagon Brothers|Resix]]
** [[Hexagon Brothers|Blusix]]
** [[Hexagon Brothers|Greesix]]
** [[Hexagon Brothers|Purpsix]]
** [[Hexagon Brothers|Yellosix]]
** [[Hexagon Brothers|Browsix]]
* [[Hordel]]
* [[Trest]]

==={{game|Emerald}}===
{| align="center" style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{Emerald color dark}}; background: #{{Emerald color}};"
|- align=center
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Emerald color dark}}; background: #{{Emerald color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Emerald color dark}}; background: #{{Emerald color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:SpriteJuan.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Emerald color dark}}; background: #{{Emerald color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:SpriteNoland.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Emerald color dark}}; background: #{{Emerald color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:SpriteGreta.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Emerald color dark}}; background: #{{Emerald color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:SpriteTucker.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Emerald color dark}}; background: #{{Emerald color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:SpriteLucy.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Emerald color dark}}; background: #{{Emerald color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:SpriteSpenser.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Emerald color dark}}; background: #{{Emerald color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:SpriteBrandon.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Emerald color dark}}; background: #{{Emerald color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:SpriteAnabel.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Emerald color dark}}; background: #{{Emerald color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
|- align=center style="font-size: 80%;"
| {{color2|000|Scott}}
| {{color2|000|Juan}}
| {{color2|000|Factory Head Noland|Noland}}
| {{color2|000|Arena Tycoon Greta|Greta}}
| {{color2|000|Dome Ace Tucker|Tucker}}
| {{color2|000|Pike Queen Lucy|Lucy}}
| {{color2|000|Palace Maven Spencer|Spencer}}
| {{color2|000|Pyramid King Brandon|Brandon}}
| {{color2|000|Salon Maiden Anabel|Anabel}}
| {{color2|000|Walda}}
|- align=center
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Emerald color dark}}; background: #{{Emerald color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Emerald color dark}}; background: #{{Emerald color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
|- align=center style="font-size: 80%;"
| {{color2|000|Legendary Top Pokémon Breeder}}
| {{color2|000|Pokémon Center Ladies}}
|- align=center
|}
 

==={{ga|Pokémon Ranger}}===
* [[Solana]]
* [[Lunick]]
* [[Professor Hastings]]
* {{ra|Spenser}}
* [[Joel]]
* {{ra|Cameron}}
* [[Elita]]
* [[Go-Rock Squad]]
* [[Go-Rock Quads]]
* [[Gordor]]
* [[Aria]]
* [[Freddie]]
* {{OBP|Keith|Fall City}}
* [[Larry]]
* [[Percy]]
* [[Leilani]]
* [[Lind]]
* [[Drowsy Guy|Drowzee Man]]
* {{ra|Chris}}
* [[Janice]]
* [[Mr. Kaplan]]
* [[Murph]]

==[[Generation IV]]==
==={{game|Diamond and Pearl|s}}===
{| align="center" style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{Sinnoh color dark}}; background: #{{Diamond color}};"
|- align=center
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Sinnoh color dark}}; background: #{{Pearl color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:DP Lucas.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Sinnoh color dark}}; background: #{{Pearl color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:DP Dawn.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Sinnoh color dark}}; background: #{{Pearl color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:Jun.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Sinnoh color dark}}; background: #{{Pearl color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:CherylPlatinum.gif]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Sinnoh color dark}}; background: #{{Pearl color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:MiraPlatinum.gif]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Sinnoh color dark}}; background: #{{Pearl color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:RileyPlatinum.gif]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Sinnoh color dark}}; background: #{{Pearl color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:MarleyPlatinum.gif]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Sinnoh color dark}}; background: #{{Pearl color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:BuckPlatinum.gif]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Sinnoh color dark}}; background: #{{Pearl color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:Rowan OD.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Sinnoh color dark}}; background: #{{Pearl color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:SpriteRoark.png]]
|- align=center style="font-size: 80%;"
| {{color2|000|Lucas (game)|Lucas}}
| {{color2|000|Dawn (game)|Dawn}}
| {{color2|000|Barry (game)|Barry}}
| {{color2|000|Cheryl}}
| {{color2|000|Mira}}
| {{color2|000|Riley}}
| {{color2|000|Marley}}
| {{color2|000|Buck}}
| {{color2|000|Professor Rowan}}
| {{color2|000|Roark}}
|- align=center
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Sinnoh color dark}}; background: #{{Pearl color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:SpriteGardenia.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Sinnoh color dark}}; background: #{{Pearl color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:SpriteMaylene.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Sinnoh color dark}}; background: #{{Pearl color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:SpriteCrasherWake.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Sinnoh color dark}}; background: #{{Pearl color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:SpriteFantina.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Sinnoh color dark}}; background: #{{Pearl color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:SpriteByron.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Sinnoh color dark}}; background: #{{Pearl color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:SpriteCandice.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Sinnoh color dark}}; background: #{{Pearl color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:SpriteVolkner.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Sinnoh color dark}}; background: #{{Pearl color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:Aaron E4 sprite.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Sinnoh color dark}}; background: #{{Pearl color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:DP Bertha.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Sinnoh color dark}}; background: #{{Pearl color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:DP Flint E4.png]]
|- align=center style="font-size: 80%;"
| {{color2|000|Gardenia}}
| {{color2|000|Maylene}}
| {{color2|000|Crasher Wake}}
| {{color2|000|Fantina}}
| {{color2|000|Byron}}
| {{color2|000|Candice}}
| {{color2|000|Volkner}}
| {{color2|000|Aaron (Elite Four)|Aaron}}
| {{color2|000|Bertha}}
| {{color2|000|Flint(Elite Four)|Flint}}
|- align=center
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Sinnoh color dark}}; background: #{{Pearl color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:DP Lucian.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Sinnoh color dark}}; background: #{{Pearl color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:DP Cynthia.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Sinnoh color dark}}; background: #{{Pearl color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:GalacticBossCyrus.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Sinnoh color dark}}; background: #{{Pearl color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:SpriteMars.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Sinnoh color dark}}; background: #{{Pearl color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:SpriteJupiter.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Sinnoh color dark}}; background: #{{Pearl color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:SpriteSaturn.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Sinnoh color dark}}; background: #{{Pearl color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
[[Image:DPGalacticF.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Sinnoh color dark}}; background: #{{Pearl color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:Tower Tycoon Palmer DP.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Sinnoh color dark}}; background: #{{Pearl color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:DP Battle Girl.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Sinnoh color dark}}; background: #{{Pearl color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:Backlot OD.png]]
|- align=center style="font-size: 80%;"
| {{color2|000|Lucian}}
| {{color2|000|Cynthia}}
| {{color2|000|Cyrus}}
| {{color2|000|Mars}}
| {{color2|000|Jupiter}}
| {{color2|000|Saturn}}
| {{color2|000|Team Galactic}}
| {{color2|000|Tower Tycoon Palmer|Palmer}}
| {{color2|000|Bebe}}
| {{color2|000|Mr. Backlot}}
|- align=center
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Sinnoh color dark}}; background: #{{Pearl color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Sinnoh color dark}}; background: #{{Pearl color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Sinnoh color dark}}; background: #{{Pearl color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Sinnoh color dark}}; background: #{{Pearl color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:Backlot OD.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Sinnoh color dark}}; background: #{{Pearl color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Sinnoh color dark}}; background: #{{Pearl color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Sinnoh color dark}}; background: #{{Pearl color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Sinnoh color dark}}; background: #{{Pearl color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Sinnoh color dark}}; background: #{{Pearl color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
|- align=center style="font-size: 80%;"
| {{color2|000|Eldritch}}
| {{color2|000|Felicity}}
| {{color2|000|Dr. Footstep}}
| {{color2|000|Mr. Fuego}}
| {{color2|000|Helena}}
| {{color2|000|Johanna}}
| {{color2|000|Sinnoh Move Deleter}}
| {{color2|000|Sinnoh Name Rater}}
| {{color2|000|Pokétch Co. President}}
|- align=center
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Sinnoh color dark}}; background: #{{Pearl color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Sinnoh color dark}}; background: #{{Pearl color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Sinnoh color dark}}; background: #{{Pearl color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Sinnoh color dark}}; background: #{{Pearl color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Sinnoh color dark}}; background: #{{Pearl color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Sinnoh color dark}}; background: #{{Pearl color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:DP Cool Trainer F.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Sinnoh color dark}}; background: #{{Pearl color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:DP Cool Trainer M.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Sinnoh color dark}}; background: #{{Pearl color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:DP Cool Trainer F.png]]
|- align=center style="font-size: 80%;"
| {{color2|000|Rad Rickshaw}}
| {{color2|000|Roseanne}}
| {{color2|000|Rad Rickshaw}}
| {{color2|000|Underground Man}}
| {{color2|000|Wilma}}
| {{color2|000|Rebecca}}
| {{color2|000|Butler}}
| {{color2|000|Diane}}
|}
 

===[[Pokémon Battle Revolution]]===
* [[Colosseum Master Joe|Joe]]
* [[Colosseum Leader Taylor|Taylor]]
* [[Colosseum Leader Marina|Marina]]
* [[Rosie]]
* [[Voldon]]
* [[Sashay]]
* [[Terrell]]
* [[Dusty]]
* [[Kruger]]
* [[Mysterial]]

===[[Pokémon Ranger: Shadows of Almia]]===
* [[Kellyn]]
* {{OBP|Kate|Ranger}}
* [[Barlow]]
* [[Crawford]]
* [[Blake Hall]]
* [[Wheeler]]
* [[Kincaid]]
* {{DL|Sinis Trio|Ice}}
* {{DL|Sinis Trio|Lavana}}
* {{DL|Sinis Trio|Heath}}
* {{OBP|Luana|Ranger}}
* [[Ollie]]
* [[Elaine]]
* {{OBP|Keith|Ranger}}
* [[Rhythmi]]
* {{OBP|Isaac|Ranger}}
* {{OBP|Melody|Ranger}}
* [[Erma]]
* {{OBP|Wendy|Ranger}}
* [[Sven]]
* [[Linda]]
* [[Pamur]]
* [[Mrs. Winter]]
* [[Ponte]]
* [[Ms. April]]
* [[Lamont]]
* [[Mr. Kaplan]]
* [[Ms. Claire]]
* [[Janice]]
* [[Mr. Woodward]]
* {{OBP|Mimi|Ranger}}
* {{OBP|Kyle|Ranger}}
* [[Brook]]
* [[Henry]]
* [[Little Tim]]
* [[Big Bertha]]
* [[Vatona and Nage]]
* {{OBP|Oscar|Ranger}}

===[[My Pokémon Ranch]]===
* [[Hayley]]
* [[Club Look-See]] Members
** [[Club Look-See|Bobbie]]
** [[Club Look-See|Mirabel]]
** [[Club Look-See|Tanner]]
** [[Club Look-See|Maggie]]
** [[Club Look-See|Wanda]]
** [[Club Look-See|Maribel]]
** [[Club Look-See|Dugan]]
** [[Club Look-See|Pikabo]]
** [[Club Look-See|Nathan]]
** [[Club Look-See|Cherry]]
** [[Club Look-See|Raby]]
** [[Club Look-See|Penny]]
** [[Club Look-See|Todd]]
** [[Club Look-See|Sammie]]
** [[Club Look-See|Crofton]]
** [[Club Look-See|Robert]]
** [[Club Look-See|Kristy]]
** [[Club Look-See|Pattie]]
** [[Club Look-See|Douglas]]
** [[Club Look-See|Martha]]
** [[Club Look-See|Sunny]]
** [[Club Look-See|Grace]]
** [[Club Look-See|Pamela]]
** [[Club Look-See|Mason]]
** [[Club Look-See|Barbara]]
** [[Club Look-See|Abella]]
** [[Club Look-See|Magnes]]
** [[Club Look-See|Marita]]
** [[Club Look-See|Webb]]
** [[Club Look-See|Leah]]
** [[Club Look-See|Spencer]]
** [[Club Look-See|Deanna]]
** [[Club Look-See|Troy]]
** [[Club Look-See|Jules]]
** [[Club Look-See|Lucius]]
** [[Club Look-See|Trevor]]
** [[Club Look-See|Nita]]

==={{game|Platinum}}===
{| align="center" style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{Platinum color dark}}; background: #{{Platinum color}};"
|- align=center
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Platinum color dark}}; background: #{{Platinum color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:Looker Sprite.png|90px]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Platinum color dark}}; background: #{{Platinum color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:Charon Sprite.png|90px]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Platinum color dark}}; background: #{{Platinum color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:Spr PtHGSS Thorton.gif]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Platinum color dark}}; background: #{{Platinum color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:DahliaPtHGSS.gif]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Platinum color dark}}; background: #{{Platinum color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:Spr Darach PtHGSS.gif]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Platinum color dark}}; background: #{{Platinum color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:Spr Argenta PtHGSS.gif]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Platinum color dark}}; background: #{{Platinum color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Platinum color dark}}; background: #{{Platinum color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
|- align=center style="font-size: 80%;"
| {{color2|000|Looker}}
| {{color2|000|Charon}}
| {{color2|000|Factory Head Thorton|Thorton}}
| {{color2|000|Arcade Star Dahlia|Dahlia}}
| {{color2|000|Castle Valet Darach}} and {{color2|000|Caitlin}}
| {{color2|000|Hall Matron Argenta|Argenta}}
| {{color2|000|Ketch Appy}}
| {{color2|000|Sinnoh Stats Judge|Stats judge}}
|- align=center
|}
 

==={{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}===
{| align="center" style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{Johto color dark}}; background: #{{Heartgold color}};"
|- align=center
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Johto color dark}}; background: #{{Soulsilver color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:HGSS Lyra.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Johto color dark}}; background: #{{Soulsilver color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:Magnus OD.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Johto color dark}}; background: #{{Soulsilver color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
|- align=center style="font-size: 80%;"
| {{color2|000|Lyra (game)|Lyra}}
| {{color2|000|Magnus}}
| {{color2|000|Maximo}}
|- align=center
|}
 

==={{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}===
* {{ga|Lyra}}
* [[Magnus]]
* [[Maximo]]

===[[Pokémon Ranger: Guardian Signs]]===
* {{ra|Ben}}
* {{ra|Summer}}
* [[Herio]]
* [[Booker]]
* [[Red Eyes]]
* [[Blue Eyes]]
* [[Purple Eyes]]
* [[Nema]]

==[[Generation V]]==
==={{game|Black and White|s}}===
{| align="center" style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{Unova color dark}}; background: #{{Black color}};"
|- align=center
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Unova color dark}}; background: #{{White color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:BW Hilbert.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Unova color dark}}; background: #{{White color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:BW Hilda.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Unova color dark}}; background: #{{White color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:Spr BW Cheren.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Unova color dark}}; background: #{{White color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:Spr BW Bianca.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Unova color dark}}; background: #{{White color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:Juniper OD.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Unova color dark}}; background: #{{White color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Unova color dark}}; background: #{{White color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:Spr BW Cilan.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Unova color dark}}; background: #{{White color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:Spr BW Chili.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Unova color dark}}; background: #{{White color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:Spr BW Cress.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Unova color dark}}; background: #{{White color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:Spr BW Lenora.png]]
|- align=center style="font-size: 80%;"
| {{color2|000|Hilbert (game)|Hilbert}}
| {{color2|000|Hilda (game)|Hilda}}
| {{color2|000|Cheren}}
| {{color2|000|Bianca}}
| {{color2|000|Professor Juniper}}
| {{color2|000|Cedric Juniper|Professor Juniper Sr.}}
| {{color2|000|Cilan}}
| {{color2|000|Chili}}
| {{color2|000|Cress}}
| {{color2|000|Lenora}}
|- align=center
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Sinnoh color dark}}; background: #{{Pearl color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:Spr BW Burgh.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Sinnoh color dark}}; background: #{{Pearl color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:Spr BW Elesa.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Sinnoh color dark}}; background: #{{Pearl color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:Spr BW Clay.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Sinnoh color dark}}; background: #{{Pearl color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:Spr BW Skyla.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Sinnoh color dark}}; background: #{{Pearl color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:Spr BW Brycen.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Sinnoh color dark}}; background: #{{Pearl color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:Spr BW Iris.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Sinnoh color dark}}; background: #{{Pearl color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:Spr BW Drayden.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Sinnoh color dark}}; background: #{{Pearl color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:Spr BW Shauntal.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Sinnoh color dark}}; background: #{{Pearl color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:Spr BW Grimsley.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Sinnoh color dark}}; background: #{{Pearl color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:Spr BW Marshal.png]]
|- align=center style="font-size: 80%;"
| {{color2|000|Burgh}}
| {{color2|000|Elesa}}
| {{color2|000|Clay}}
| {{color2|000|Skyla}}
| {{color2|000|Brycen}}
| {{color2|000|Iris}}
| {{color2|000|Drayden}}
| {{color2|000|Shauntal}}
| {{color2|000|Grimsley}}
| {{color2|000|Marshal}}
|- align=center
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Unova color dark}}; background: #{{White color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:Spr BW Alder.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Unova color dark}}; background: #{{White color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Unova color dark}}; background: #{{White color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:Spr BW Plasma Grunt M.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Unova color dark}}; background: #{{White color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:Spr BW N.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Unova color dark}}; background: #{{White color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:Spr BW Ghetsis.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Unova color dark}}; background: #{{White color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:Anthea OD.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Unova color dark}}; background: #{{White color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:Concordia OD.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Unova color dark}}; background: #{{White color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Unova color dark}}; background: #{{White color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Unova color dark}}; background: #{{White color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
|- align=center style="font-size: 80%;"
| {{color2|000|Alder}}
| {{color2|000|Fennel}}
| {{color2|000|Team Plasma}}
| {{color2|000|N}}
| {{color2|000|Ghetsis}} and the {{color2|000|Seven Sages}}
| {{color2|000|Anthea and Concordia|Anthea}}
| {{color2|000|Anthea and Concordia|Concordia}}
| {{color2|000|Shadow Triad}}
| {{color2|000|Amanita}}
| {{color2|000|Hawes}}
|- align=center
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Unova color dark}}; background: #{{White color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
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First partner Pokémon

2011-10-02T00:27:42Z

Pocketfanmk:

[[File:MainSeriesStarters.png|thumb|250px|Artwork featuring the starter Pokémon up to Generation IV]]
At the beginning of their quest, {{pkmn|Trainer}}s are given a '''starter Pokémon''' (Japanese: '''はじめてのポケモン''' ''Beginning Pokémon'' or '''さいしょのポケモン''' ''first Pokémon''; known as '''{{tt|'御三家|ごさんけ}}''' ''the big three'' among Japanese fans). This Pokémon will be used to {{pkmn|battle}} the first [[wild Pokémon]] that the Trainer encounters.

Once another Pokémon is caught, the starter Pokémon may be retired, but it is often with this Pokémon that Trainers learn friendship and trust. As such, even advanced Trainers may still use their starter Pokémon, and they will often be the most powerful Pokémon on their respective teams.

==In the games==
In the main {{pkmn|games}}, each starter Pokémon is at [[level]] 5, armed with one damage-dealing [[move]] and another that affects [[stat]]s. Trainers can choose a {{t|Fire}}-, {{t|Water}}-, or {{type2|Grass}} Pokémon ([[Pokémon Yellow Version|with one exception]]). The Trainer that will be designated as the player's [[rival]] will always choose or have the Pokémon of the starter trio that has a type advantage over the one the player chooses, though it may not be the case that they remain the true rival.

The following is a list of starter Pokémon by region:

===Starter Pokémon===
====Main series====
=====[[Kanto]]=====
In {{game5|Red|Green|Blue|FireRed|LeafGreen}}, [[Professor Oak]] will bring Trainers to his lab to give them one of the following to begin their journey:

{| align="center" style="background: #{{kanto color dark}}; font-size:85%; {{roundy}}; border: 5px solid #{{kanto color}}"
|-
! style="width:80px; background:#{{kanto color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}};" colspan="2" | [[File:001.png]] '''{{pcolor|Bulbasaur|{{kanto color dark}}}}''' 
! style="width:80px; background:#{{kanto color light}}" colspan="2" | [[File:004.png]] '''{{pcolor|Charmander|{{kanto color dark}}}}''' 
! style="width:80px; background:#{{kanto color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}};" colspan="2" | [[File:007.png]] '''{{pcolor|Squirtle|{{kanto color dark}}}}'''
|- align="center"
| style="background:#{{grass color}}" | {{tcolor|Grass|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{poison color}}" | {{tcolor|Poison|FFF}}
| colspan="2" style="background:#{{fire color}}" | {{tcolor|Fire|FFF}}
| colspan="2" style="background:#{{water color}}" | {{tcolor|Water|FFF}}
|- align="center" style="background: #{{kanto color light}}"
| {{MSP|002|Ivysaur}}
| {{pcolor|Ivysaur|{{kanto color dark}}}}
| {{MSP|005|Charmeleon}}
| {{pcolor|Charmeleon|{{kanto color dark}}}}
| {{MSP|008|Wartortle}}
| {{pcolor|Wartortle|{{kanto color dark}}}}
|- align="center" style="background: #{{kanto color light}}"
| style="background:#{{grass color}}" | {{tcolor|Grass|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{poison color}}" | {{tcolor|Poison|FFF}}
| colspan="2" style="background:#{{fire color}}" | {{tcolor|Fire|FFF}}
| colspan="2" style="background:#{{water color}}" | {{tcolor|Water|FFF}}
|- align="center" style="background: #{{kanto color light}}"
| {{MSP|003|Venusaur}}
| {{pcolor|Venusaur|{{kanto color dark}}}}
| {{MSP|006|Charizard}}
| {{pcolor|Charizard|{{kanto color dark}}}}
| {{MSP|009|Blastoise}}
| {{pcolor|Blastoise|{{kanto color dark}}}}
|- align="center"
| style="background:#{{grass color}}; {{roundybl|5px}};" | {{tcolor|Grass|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{poison color}}" | {{tcolor|Poison|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{fire color}}" | {{tcolor|Fire|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{flying color}}" | {{tcolor|Flying|FFF}}
| colspan="2" style="background:#{{water color}}; {{roundybr|5px}};" | {{tcolor|Water|FFF}}
|}

The player's {{ga|Blue|rival}} will then pick the type-advantageous starter Pokémon, and the remaining Pokémon will sit in its [[Poké Ball]] on Oak's desk for the rest of the game.

Professor Oak offers one of this trio of Pokémon to the player in {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}} after the player has defeated {{ga|Red}}, making reference to the fact that he gives them out as starter Pokémon in Kanto-based games, suggesting the player will be able to make it to [[Viridian City|the next town]] with one of these Pokémon by his or her side.

In {{game|Yellow}}, Oak instead gives out:

{| align="center" style="background: #{{kanto color dark}}; font-size:85%; {{roundy}}; border: 5px solid #{{kanto color}}"
|-
! style="width:80px; background: #{{kanto color light}}; {{roundytop|5px}};" | [[File:025.png]] '''{{color2|{{kanto color dark}}|Red's Pikachu (game)|Pikachu}}'''
|-
| align="center" style="background:#{{electric color}}; {{roundybottom|5px}};" | {{tcolor|Electric|FFF}}
|}

This {{ga|Red's Pikachu|Pikachu}} is the same one that attacked the player when they ventured onto {{rt|1|Kanto}} that Oak caught, which will be the only choice the player gets. Another notable change here involves the player's rival receiving an {{p|Eevee}} from Oak, which will evolve into one of its three [[Generation I]] evolutions, depending on the outcome of the battles between the player and the rival. During the adventure, the player will be able to get the original three Kanto starter Pokémon through special events not present in the earlier games. It remains to be the only main series game to allow the player to obtain all three starter Pokémon from a previous game legitimately, without trading. The Pikachu received from Oak will also refuse to evolve into {{p|Raichu}} by use of a {{evostone|Thunderstone}} unless it is traded away to do so.

=====[[Johto]]=====
In {{game5|Gold|Silver|Crystal|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}, [[Professor Elm]] will have an errand for the player to run, and will give them one of the following for protection on this errand, which they will then keep after completion:

{| align="center" style="background: #{{johto color dark}}; font-size:85%; {{roundy}}; border: 5px solid #{{johto color}}"
|-
! style="width:80px; background:#{{johto color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}};" colspan="2" | [[File:152.png‎]] '''{{pcolor|Chikorita|{{johto color dark}}}}'''
! style="width:80px; background:#{{johto color light}}" colspan="2" | [[File:155.png]] '''{{pcolor|Cyndaquil|{{johto color dark}}}}'''
! style="width:80px; background:#{{johto color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}};" colspan="2" | [[File:158.png]] '''{{pcolor|Totodile|{{johto color dark}}}}'''
|- align="center"
| colspan="2" style="background:#{{grass color}}" | {{tcolor|Grass|FFF}}
| colspan="2" style="background:#{{fire color}}" | {{tcolor|Fire|FFF}}
| colspan="2" style="background:#{{water color}}" | {{tcolor|Water|FFF}}
|- style="background: #{{johto color light}}" align="center"
| {{MSP|153|Bayleef}}
| {{pcolor|Bayleef|{{johto color dark}}}}
| {{MSP|156|Quilava}}
| {{pcolor|Quilava|{{johto color dark}}}}
| {{MSP|159|Croconaw}}
| {{pcolor|Croconaw|{{johto color dark}}}}
|- align="center"
| colspan="2" style="background:#{{grass color}}" | {{tcolor|Grass|FFF}}
| colspan="2" style="background:#{{fire color}}" | {{tcolor|Fire|FFF}}
| colspan="2" style="background:#{{water color}}" | {{tcolor|Water|FFF}}
|- style="background: #{{johto color light}}" align="center"
| {{MSP|154|Meganium}}
| {{pcolor|Meganium|{{johto color dark}}}}
| {{MSP|157|Typhlosion}}
| {{pcolor|Typhlosion|{{johto color dark}}}}
| {{MSP|160|Feraligatr}}
| {{pcolor|Feraligatr|{{johto color dark}}}}
|- align="center"
| colspan="2" style="background:#{{grass color}}; {{roundybl|5px}}" | {{tcolor|Grass|FFF}}
| colspan="2" style="background:#{{fire color}}" | {{tcolor|Fire|FFF}}
| colspan="2" style="background:#{{water color}}; {{roundybr|5px}}" | {{tcolor|Water|FFF}}
|}

After the player meets with [[Mr. Pokémon]] and receives a [[Pokédex]] from [[Professor Oak]], Professor Elm will call the player to tell them that {{ga|Silver|a thief}} has taken a Pokémon. As the player returns to [[New Bark Town]], he or she will encounter the thief, who will have the stolen Pokémon with the type advantage over the player's own. From this point onward, the thief will be the player's rival, while Professor Elm keeps the Pokémon that was left behind by the thief on his desk for the remainder of the game (in {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}, the last Pokémon mysteriously disappears at some point).

In Generation II, the Pokémon will be holding a {{DL|Berries (Generation II)|Berry}} when received from Elm, though the rival's stolen starter Pokémon will not.

In {{game|Emerald}}, after the player has caught all Pokémon in the [[List of Pokémon by Hoenn Pokédex number|Hoenn Pokédex]] with the exception of {{p|Jirachi}} and {{p|Deoxys}}, [[Professor Birch]] will offer one of these Pokémon as a reward.

=====[[Hoenn]]=====
In {{game2|Ruby|Sapphire|Emerald}}, after [[Professor Birch]] is rescued from a {{p|Poochyena}}{{sup|RS}} or {{p|Zigzagoon}}{{sup|E}}, he allows the player to keep the Pokémon they chose to rescue him with, either:

{| align="center" style="background: #{{hoenn color dark}}; text-align: center; font-size:85%; {{roundy}}; border: 5px solid #{{hoenn color}}"
|-
! style="width:80px; background:#{{hoenn color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}};" colspan="2" | [[File:252.png]] '''{{pcolor|Treecko|{{hoenn color dark}}}}''' 
! style="width:80px; background:#{{hoenn color light}}" colspan="2" | [[File:255.png]] '''{{pcolor|Torchic|{{hoenn color dark}}}}''' 
! style="width:80px; background:#{{hoenn color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}};" colspan="2" | [[File:258.png]] '''{{pcolor|Mudkip|{{hoenn color dark}}}}'''
|-
| colspan="2" style="background:#{{grass color}}" | {{tcolor|Grass|FFF}}
| colspan="2" style="background:#{{fire color}}" | {{tcolor|Fire|FFF}}
| colspan="2" style="background:#{{water color}}" | {{tcolor|Water|FFF}}
|- style="background: #{{hoenn color light}}"
| {{MSP|253|Grovyle}}
| {{pcolor|Grovyle|{{hoenn color dark}}}}
| {{MSP|256|Combusken}}
| {{pcolor|Combusken|{{hoenn color dark}}}}
| {{MSP|259|Marshtomp}}
| {{pcolor|Marshtomp|{{hoenn color dark}}}}
|-
| colspan="2" style="background:#{{grass color}}" | {{tcolor|Grass|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{fire color}}" | {{tcolor|Fire|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{fighting color}}" | {{tcolor|Fighting|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{water color}}" | {{tcolor|Water|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{ground color}}" | {{tcolor|Ground|FFF}}
|- style="background: #{{hoenn color light}}"
| {{MSP|254|Sceptile}}
| {{pcolor|Sceptile|{{hoenn color dark}}}}
| {{MSP|257|Blaziken}}
| {{pcolor|Blaziken|{{hoenn color dark}}}}
| {{MSP|260|Swampert}}
| {{pcolor|Swampert|{{hoenn color dark}}}}
|-
| colspan="2" style="background:#{{grass color}}; {{roundybl|5px}};" | {{tcolor|Grass|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{fire color}}" | {{tcolor|Fire|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{fighting color}}" | {{tcolor|Fighting|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{water color}}" | {{tcolor|Water|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{ground color}}; {{roundybr|5px}};" | {{tcolor|Ground|FFF}}
|}

The player's neighbor, {{ga|Brendan}} or {{ga|May}}, already has his or her starter Pokémon, which is always the one with the type advantage. [[Wally]] starts with {{p|Ralts}}; he seeks [[Norman]]'s and the player's assistance in catching his first Pokémon. By the end of the game, it seems that the player's nominal rival, the son/daughter of Professor Birch, has stopped being a Trainer, and Wally is actually the true rival, facing the player before he or she can leave {{ho|Victory Road}} and staying there to rebattle the player later.

In {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}, [[Steven Stone]] offers one of these Pokémon to the player after he or she has defeated {{ga|Red}}.

=====[[Sinnoh]]=====
In {{game|Diamond and Pearl|s}}, when two {{p|Starly}} attack the player and rival at [[Lake Verity]], to which they travel upon hearing reports of a [[Shiny Pokémon|red]] {{p|Gyarados}}, they will choose one of the following from [[Professor Rowan]]'s briefcase, which he left at the lake:

{| align="center" style="background: #{{sinnoh color dark}}; text-align: center; font-size:85%; {{roundy}}; border: 5px solid #{{sinnoh color}}"
|-
! style="width:80px; background:#{{sinnoh color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}};" colspan="2" | [[File:387.png]] '''{{pcolor|Turtwig|{{sinnoh color dark}}}}''' 
! style="width:80px; background:#{{sinnoh color light}}" colspan="2" | [[File:390.png]] '''{{pcolor|Chimchar|{{sinnoh color dark}}}}''' 
! style="width:80px; background:#{{sinnoh color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}};" colspan="2" | [[File:393.png]] '''{{pcolor|Piplup|{{sinnoh color dark}}}}'''
|-
| colspan="2" style="background:#{{grass color}}" | {{tcolor|Grass|FFF}}
| colspan="2" style="background:#{{fire color}}" | {{tcolor|Fire|FFF}}
| colspan="2" style="background:#{{water color}}" | {{tcolor|Water|FFF}}
|- style="background: #{{sinnoh color light}}"
| {{MSP|388|Grotle}}
| {{pcolor|Grotle|{{sinnoh color dark}}}}
| {{MSP|391|Monferno}}
| {{pcolor|Monferno|{{sinnoh color dark}}}}
| {{MSP|394|Prinplup}}
| {{pcolor|Prinplup|{{sinnoh color dark}}}}
|-
| colspan="2" style="background:#{{grass color}}" | {{tcolor|Grass|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{fire color}}" | {{tcolor|Fire|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{fighting color}}" | {{tcolor|Fighting|FFF}}
| colspan="2" style="background:#{{water color}}" | {{tcolor|Water|FFF}}
|- style="background: #{{sinnoh color light}}"
| {{MSP|389|Torterra}}
| {{pcolor|Torterra|{{sinnoh color dark}}}}
| {{MSP|392|Infernape}}
| {{pcolor|Infernape|{{sinnoh color dark}}}}
| {{MSP|395|Empoleon}}
| {{pcolor|Empoleon|{{sinnoh color dark}}}}
|-
| style="background:#{{grass color}}; {{roundybl|5px}}" | {{tcolor|Grass|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{ground color}}" | {{tcolor|Ground|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{fire color}}" | {{tcolor|Fire|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{fighting color}}" | {{tcolor|Fighting|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{water color}}" | {{tcolor|Water|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{steel color}}; {{roundybr|5px}}" | {{tcolor|Steel|FFF}}
|}

The player's friend and rival {{ga|Barry}} will choose the starter Pokémon that has a type advantage against the player's choice, and the [[non-player character|NPC]] who is the other-gender choice ({{ga|Lucas}}/{{ga|Dawn}}) will have the Pokémon weak to the player's choice. After fighting off the two Starly at the lake and returning the briefcase to Rowan, the professor will allow the player and {{ga|Barry}} to keep the Pokémon they used.

In {{game|Platinum}}, the player and the rival are stopped by Professor Rowan just as they are about to run through tall grass to get to Sandgem Town to ask the Professor for Pokémon. After some questions about the player and the rival's love for Pokémon, he decides to entrust them with one starter Pokémon each.

=====[[Unova]]=====
In {{game|Black and White|s}}, [[Professor Juniper]] leaves a gift with the player's [[mom|mother]] in [[Nuvema Town]] to give to him or her, containing the following three Pokémon:

{| class="roundy" align="center" style="background: #{{Unova color dark}}; text-align: center; font-size:85%; border: 5px solid #{{Unova color}}"
|-
! style="width:80px; background:#{{Unova color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" colspan="2" | [[File:495.png]] '''{{pcolor|Snivy|{{Unova color dark}}}}''' 
! style="width:80px; background:#{{Unova color light}}" colspan="2" | [[File:498.png]] '''{{pcolor|Tepig|{{Unova color dark}}}}''' 
! style="width:80px; background:#{{Unova color light}};{{roundytr|5px}}" colspan="2" | [[File:501.png]] '''{{pcolor|Oshawott|{{Unova color dark}}}}'''
|-
| colspan="2" style="background:#{{grass color}}" | {{tcolor|Grass|FFF}}
| colspan="2" style="background:#{{fire color}}" | {{tcolor|Fire|FFF}}
| colspan="2" style="background:#{{water color}}" | {{tcolor|Water|FFF}}
|- style="background: #{{Unova color light}}"
| {{MSP|496|Servine}}
| {{pcolor|Servine|{{Unova color dark}}}}
| {{MSP|499|Pignite}}
| {{pcolor|Pignite|{{Unova color dark}}}}
| {{MSP|502|Dewott}}
| {{pcolor|Dewott|{{Unova color dark}}}}
|-
| colspan="2" style="background:#{{grass color}}" | {{tcolor|Grass|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{fire color}}" | {{tcolor|Fire|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{fighting color}}" | {{tcolor|Fighting|FFF}}
| colspan="2" style="background:#{{water color}}" | {{tcolor|Water|FFF}}
|- style="background: #{{Unova color light}}"
| {{MSP|497|Serperior}}
| {{pcolor|Serperior|{{Unova color dark}}}}
| {{MSP|500|Emboar}}
| {{pcolor|Emboar|{{Unova color dark}}}}
| {{MSP|503|Samurott}}
| {{pcolor|Samurott|{{Unova color dark}}}}
|-
| colspan="2" style="background:#{{grass color}}; {{roundybl|5px}}" | {{tcolor|Grass|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{fire color}}" | {{tcolor|Fire|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{fighting color}}" | {{tcolor|Fighting|FFF}}
| colspan="2" style="background:#{{water color}}; {{roundybr|5px}}" | {{tcolor|Water|FFF}}
|}

The player's friend [[Cheren]] will choose the Pokémon that is strong against the player's choice, while the player's other friend [[Bianca]] will choose the one weak to the player's choice. The choice of starter Pokémon affects which of the [[Gym Leader]]s of [[Striaton City]] will be battled; players who chose Snivy will face [[Chili]], a {{type2|Fire}} specialist, players who chose Tepig will face [[Cress]], a {{type2|Water}} specialist, and players who chose Oshawott will face [[Cilan]], a {{type2|Grass}} specialist. Also, the choice affects the [[Elemental monkeys|Pokémon]] given to the player in the [[Dreamyard]]. Choosing Snivy gives the player a {{p|Panpour}}, Tepig a {{p|Pansage}} and Oshawott a {{p|Pansear}}.

====Side series====
=====[[Orre]]=====
In {{g|Colosseum}}:

{| align="center" style="background: #{{colo color dark}}; text-align: center; font-size:85%; {{roundy}}; border: 5px solid #{{colo color}}"
|-
! style="width:80px; background:#{{colo color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}};" | [[File:196.png]] '''{{pcolor|Espeon|{{colo color dark}}}}'''
! style="width:80px; background:#{{colo color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}};" | [[File:197.png]] '''{{pcolor|Umbreon|{{colo color dark}}}}'''
|-
| style="background:#{{psychic color}}; {{roundybl|5px}};" | {{tcolor|Psychic|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{dark color}}; {{roundybr|5px}};" | {{tcolor|Dark|FFF}}
|}

A first for the Pokémon games, these starter Pokémon come as a pair as to represent the double-battle system, and are also different in that they are in the player's possession right at start of play. Umbreon is at level 26, knowing the [[TM]] moves {{m|Taunt}} and {{m|Snatch}}, as well as {{m|Bite}} which is otherwise only available through {{pkmn|breeding}} at such a level. Espeon is at level 25, knowing the TM moves {{m|Return}} (and appears to start with maximum [[Happiness]]) and {{m|Reflect}}. Both are always male.

In [[Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness]]:

{| align="center" style="background: #{{xd color dark}}; text-align: center; font-size:85%; {{roundy}}; border: 5px solid #{{xd color}}"
|-
! colspan="10" align="center" style="width:80px; background: #{{xd color light}}; {{roundytop|5px}};" | [[File:133.png]] '''{{pcolor|Eevee|{{xd color dark}}}}'''
|-
| colspan="10" style="background:#{{normal color}}" | {{tcolor|Normal|FFF}}
|- style="background: #{{xd color light}}"
| {{MSP|134|Vaporeon}}
| {{pcolor|Vaporeon|{{xd color dark}}}}
| {{MSP|135|Jolteon}}
| {{pcolor|Jolteon|{{xd color dark}}}}
| {{MSP|136|Flareon}}
| {{pcolor|Flareon|{{xd color dark}}}}
| {{MSP|196|Espeon}}
| {{pcolor|Espeon|{{xd color dark}}}}
| {{MSP|197|Umbreon}}
| {{pcolor|Umbreon|{{xd color dark}}}}
|-
| colspan="2" style="background:#{{water color}}; {{roundybl|5px}}" | {{tcolor|Water|FFF}}
| colspan="2" style="background:#{{electric color}}" | {{tcolor|Electric|FFF}}
| colspan="2" style="background:#{{fire color}}" | {{tcolor|Fire|FFF}}
| colspan="2" style="background:#{{psychic color}}" | {{tcolor|Psychic|FFF}}
| colspan="2" style="background:#{{dark color}}; {{roundybr|5px}}" | {{tcolor|Dark|FFF}}
|}

This starter Pokémon is also in the player's possession right at the beginning. It is at level 10, knowing Bite which is again unique for this level. At an early point in the game, the player is offered one of five evolutionary items, {{evostone|Water Stone}}, {{evostone|Thunderstone}}, {{evostone|Fire Stone}}, [[Sun and Moon Shards|Moon Shard]] and [[Sun and Moon Shards|Sun Shard]], to make the Eevee evolve into any of its ([[Generation III|then]]) [[Eeveelution|evolutions]].

In Pokémon XD, if the player completes the [[Mt. Battle]] challenge and beats all 100 Trainers without quitting or switching Pokémon, [[Battlus]] will give one of the Johto starter Pokémon as a reward.

===Starting Pokémon===
While not actually starter Pokémon, these are the first Pokémon obtained in each of these games.

====[[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon]]====
In the [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon]] series, the player starts with a two-Pokémon team, with one Pokémon representing them as the [[player character]], and the other being their partner. The species available are based mostly starter Pokémon, and vary slightly with each game. Some of them are exclusive to the player (including their given gender), while others are exclusive to the partner.

In [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Red Rescue Team and Blue Rescue Team]]:

{| align="center" style="background: #{{md red color dark}}; text-align: center; font-size:85%; {{roundy}}; border: 5px solid #{{md blue color}}"
|-
! colspan="2" style="width:80px; background:#{{md red color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}};" | [[File:001.png]] '''{{pcolor|Bulbasaur|{{md red color dark}}}}'''
! style="width:80px; background:#{{md blue color light}};" | [[File:004.png]] '''{{pcolor|Charmander|{{md blue color dark}}}}'''
! style="width:80px; background:#{{md red color light}};" | [[File:007.png]] '''{{pcolor|Squirtle|{{md red color dark}}}}'''
! style="width:80px; background:#{{md blue color light}};" | [[File:025.png]] '''{{pcolor|Pikachu|{{md blue color dark}}}}'''
! style="width:80px; background:#{{md red color light}};" | [[File:052.png]] '''{{pcolor|Meowth|{{md red color dark}}}}'''
! style="width:80px; background:#{{md blue color light}};" | [[File:054.png]] '''{{pcolor|Psyduck|{{md blue color dark}}}}'''
! style="width:80px; background:#{{md red color light}};" | [[File:066.png]] '''{{pcolor|Machop|{{md red color dark}}}}'''
! style="width:80px; background:#{{md blue color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}};" | [[File:104.png]] '''{{pcolor|Cubone|{{md blue color dark}}}}'''
|-
| style="background:#{{grass color}}" | {{tcolor|Grass|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{poison color}}" | {{tcolor|Poison|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{fire color}}" | {{tcolor|Fire|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{water color}}" | {{tcolor|Water|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{electric color}}" | {{tcolor|Electric|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{normal color}}" | {{tcolor|Normal|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{water color}}" | {{tcolor|Water|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{fighting color}}" | {{tcolor|Fighting|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{ground color}}" | {{tcolor|Ground|FFF}}
|-
! colspan="2" style="width:80px; background:#{{md blue color light}};" | [[File:133.png]] '''{{pcolor|Eevee|{{md blue color dark}}}}'''
! style="width:80px; background:#{{md red color light}};" | [[File:152.png]] '''{{pcolor|Chikorita|{{md red color dark}}}}'''
! style="width:80px; background:#{{md blue color light}};" | [[File:155.png]] '''{{pcolor|Cyndaquil|{{md blue color dark}}}}'''
! style="width:80px; background:#{{md red color light}};" | [[File:158.png]] '''{{pcolor|Totodile|{{md red color dark}}}}'''
! style="width:80px; background:#{{md blue color light}};" | [[File:252.png]] '''{{pcolor|Treecko|{{md blue color dark}}}}'''
! style="width:80px; background:#{{md red color light}};" | [[File:255.png]] '''{{pcolor|Torchic|{{md red color dark}}}}'''
! style="width:80px; background:#{{md blue color light}};" | [[File:258.png]] '''{{pcolor|Mudkip|{{md blue color dark}}}}'''
! style="width:80px; background:#{{md red color light}};" | [[File:300.png]] '''{{pcolor|Skitty|{{md red color dark}}}}'''
|-
| colspan="2" style="background:#{{normal color}}; {{roundybl|5px}};" | {{tcolor|Normal|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{grass color}}" | {{tcolor|Grass|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{fire color}}" | {{tcolor|Fire|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{water color}}" | {{tcolor|Water|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{grass color}}" | {{tcolor|Grass|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{fire color}}" | {{tcolor|Fire|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{water color}}" | {{tcolor|Water|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{normal color}}; {{roundybr|5px}};" | {{tcolor|Normal|FFF}}
|}

In [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness]]:

{| align="center" style="background: #{{md time color dark}}; text-align: center; font-size:85%; {{roundy}}; border: 5px solid #{{md darkness color}}"
|-
! colspan="2" style="width:80px; background:#{{md time color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}};" | [[File:001.png]] '''{{pcolor|Bulbasaur|{{md time color dark}}}}'''
! style="width:80px; background:#{{md darkness color light}};" | [[File:004.png]] '''{{pcolor|Charmander|{{md darkness color dark}}}}'''
! style="width:80px; background:#{{md time color light}};" | [[File:007.png]] '''{{pcolor|Squirtle|{{md time color dark}}}}'''
! style="width:80px; background:#{{md darkness color light}};" | [[File:025.png]] '''{{pcolor|Pikachu|{{md darkness color dark}}}}'''
! style="width:80px; background:#{{md time color light}};" | [[File:052.png]] '''{{pcolor|Meowth|{{md time color dark}}}}'''
! style="width:80px; background:#{{md darkness color light}};" | [[File:152.png]] '''{{pcolor|Chikorita|{{md darkness color dark}}}}'''
! style="width:80px; background:#{{md time color light}};" | [[File:155.png]] '''{{pcolor|Cyndaquil|{{md time color dark}}}}'''
! style="width:80px; background:#{{md darkness color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}};" | [[File:158.png]] '''{{pcolor|Totodile|{{md darkness color dark}}}}'''
|-
| style="background:#{{grass color}}" | {{tcolor|Grass|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{poison color}}" | {{tcolor|Poison|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{fire color}}" | {{tcolor|Fire|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{water color}}" | {{tcolor|Water|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{electric color}}" | {{tcolor|Electric|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{normal color}}" | {{tcolor|Normal|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{grass color}}" | {{tcolor|Grass|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{fire color}}" | {{tcolor|Fire|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{water color}}" | {{tcolor|Water|FFF}}
|-
! colspan="2" style="width:80px; background:#{{md darkness color light}};" | [[File:252.png]] '''{{pcolor|Treecko|{{md darkness color dark}}}}'''
! style="width:80px; background:#{{md time color light}};" | [[File:255.png]] '''{{pcolor|Torchic|{{md time color dark}}}}'''
! style="width:80px; background:#{{md darkness color light}};" | [[File:258.png]] '''{{pcolor|Mudkip|{{md darkness color dark}}}}'''
! style="width:80px; background:#{{md time color light}};" | [[File:300.png]] '''{{pcolor|Skitty|{{md time color dark}}}}'''
! style="width:80px; background:#{{md darkness color light}};" | [[File:387.png]] '''{{pcolor|Turtwig|{{md darkness color dark}}}}'''
! style="width:80px; background:#{{md time color light}};" | [[File:390.png]] '''{{pcolor|Chimchar|{{md time color dark}}}}'''
! style="width:80px; background:#{{md darkness color light}};" | [[File:393.png]] '''{{pcolor|Piplup|{{md darkness color dark}}}}'''
! style="width:80px; background:#{{md time color light}};" | [[File:446.png]] '''{{pcolor|Munchlax|{{md time color dark}}}}'''
|-
| colspan="2" style="background:#{{grass color}}; {{roundybl|5px}}" | {{tcolor|Grass|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{fire color}}" | {{tcolor|Fire|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{water color}}" | {{tcolor|Water|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{normal color}}" | {{tcolor|Normal|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{grass color}}" | {{tcolor|Grass|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{fire color}}" | {{tcolor|Fire|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{water color}}" | {{tcolor|Water|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{normal color}}; {{roundybr|5px}};" | {{tcolor|Normal|FFF}}
|}

In [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky]]:
{| align="center" style="background: #{{md sky color dark}}; text-align: center; font-size:85%; {{roundy}}; border: 5px solid #{{md sky color}}"
|-
! colspan="2" style="width:80px; background:#{{md sky color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}};" | [[File:001.png]] '''{{pcolor|Bulbasaur|{{md sky color dark}}}}'''
! style="width:80px; background:#{{md sky color light}};" | [[File:004.png]] '''{{pcolor|Charmander|{{md sky color dark}}}}'''
! style="width:80px; background:#{{md sky color light}};" | [[File:007.png]] '''{{pcolor|Squirtle|{{md sky color dark}}}}'''
! style="width:80px; background:#{{md sky color light}};" | [[File:025.png]] '''{{pcolor|Pikachu|{{md sky color dark}}}}'''
! style="width:80px; background:#{{md sky color light}}" | [[File:037.png]] '''{{pcolor|Vulpix|{{md sky color dark}}}}
! style="width:80px; background:#{{md sky color light}}" | [[File:133.png]] '''{{pcolor|Eevee|{{md sky color dark}}}}
! style="width:80px; background:#{{md sky color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}};" | [[File:152.png]] '''{{pcolor|Chikorita|{{md sky color dark}}}}
|-
| style="background:#{{grass color}}" | {{tcolor|Grass|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{poison color}}" | {{tcolor|Poison|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{fire color}}" | {{tcolor|Fire|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{water color}}" | {{tcolor|Water|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{electric color}}"| {{tcolor|Electric|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{fire color}}"| {{tcolor|Fire|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{normal color}}"| {{tcolor|Normal|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{grass color}}" | {{tcolor|Grass|FFF}}
|-
! colspan="2" style="width:80px; background:#{{md sky color light}}" | [[File:155.png]] '''{{pcolor|Cyndaquil|{{md sky color dark}}}}
! style="width:80px; background:#{{md sky color light}}"| [[File:158.png]] '''{{pcolor|Totodile|{{md sky color dark}}}}
! style="width:80px; background:#{{md sky color light}}" | [[File:231.png]] '''{{pcolor|Phanpy|{{md sky color dark}}}}
! style="width:80px; background:#{{md sky color light}}" | [[File:252.png]] '''{{pcolor|Treecko|{{md sky color dark}}}}
! style="width:80px; background:#{{md sky color light}}" | [[File:255.png]] '''{{pcolor|Torchic|{{md sky color dark}}}}
! style="width:80px; background:#{{md sky color light}}" | [[File:258.png]] '''{{pcolor|Mudkip|{{md sky color dark}}}}
! style="width:80px; background:#{{md sky color light}}" | [[File:300.png]] '''{{pcolor|Skitty|{{md sky color dark}}}}
|-
| colspan="2" style="background:#{{fire color}}" | {{tcolor|Fire|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{water color}}" | {{tcolor|Water|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{ground color}}" | {{tcolor|Ground|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{grass color}}" | {{tcolor|Grass|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{fire color}}" | {{tcolor|Fire|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{water color}}" | {{tcolor|Water|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{normal color}}" | {{tcolor|Normal|FFF}}
|-
! colspan="2" |
! style="width:80px; background:#{{md sky color light}}" | [[File:387.png]] '''{{pcolor|Turtwig|{{md sky color dark}}}}
! style="width:80px; background:#{{md sky color light}}" | [[File:390.png]] '''{{pcolor|Chimchar|{{md sky color dark}}}}
! style="width:80px; background:#{{md sky color light}}" | [[File:393.png]] '''{{pcolor|Piplup|{{md sky color dark}}}}
! style="width:80px; background:#{{md sky color light}}" | [[File:403.png]] '''{{pcolor|Shinx|{{md sky color dark}}}}
! style="width:80px; background:#{{md sky color light}}" | [[File:447.png]] '''{{pcolor|Riolu|{{md sky color dark}}}}
|-
| colspan="2" |
| style="background:#{{grass color}}" | {{tcolor|Grass|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{fire color}}" | {{tcolor|Fire|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{water color}}" | {{tcolor|Water|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{electric color}}" | {{tcolor|Electric|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{fighting color}}" | {{tcolor|Fighting|FFF}}
|}

In [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon (WiiWare)|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Keep Going! Blazing Adventure Squad!]]:

{| align="center" style="background: #{{fire color dark}}; text-align: center; font-size:85%; {{roundy}}; border: 5px solid #{{fire color}}"
|-
! style="width:80px; background:#{{fire color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}};" | [[File:004.png]] '''{{pcolor|Charmander|{{fire color dark}}}}'''
! style="width:80px; background:#{{fire color light}};" | [[File:037.png]] '''{{pcolor|Vulpix|{{fire color dark}}}}'''
! style="width:80px; background:#{{fire color light}};" | [[File:058.png]] '''{{pcolor|Growlithe|{{fire color dark}}}}'''
! style="width:80px; background:#{{fire color light}};" | [[File:133.png]] '''{{pcolor|Eevee|{{fire color dark}}}}'''
! style="width:80px; background:#{{fire color light}};" | [[File:155.png]] '''{{pcolor|Cyndaquil|{{fire color dark}}}}'''
|-
| style="background:#{{fire color}}; {{roundybl|5px}};" | {{tcolor|Fire|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{fire color}}" | {{tcolor|Fire|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{fire color}}" | {{tcolor|Fire|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{normal color}}" | {{tcolor|Normal|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{fire color}}" | {{tcolor|Fire|FFF}}
|-
! style="width:80px; background:#{{fire color light}};" | [[File:216.png]] '''{{pcolor|Teddiursa|{{fire color dark}}}}'''
! style="width:80px; background:#{{fire color light}};" | [[File:255.png]] '''{{pcolor|Torchic|{{fire color dark}}}}'''
! style="width:80px; background:#{{fire color light}};" | [[File:390.png]] '''{{pcolor|Chimchar|{{fire color dark}}}}'''
! style="width:80px; background:#{{fire color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}};" | [[File:427.png]] '''{{pcolor|Buneary|{{fire color dark}}}}'''
|-
| style="background:#{{normal color}}" | {{tcolor|Normal|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{fire color}}" | {{tcolor|Fire|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{fire color}}" | {{tcolor|Fire|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{normal color}}; {{roundybr|5px}};" | {{tcolor|Normal|FFF}}
|}

In [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon (WiiWare)|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Let's Go! Stormy Adventure Squad!]]:

{| align="center" style="background: #{{water color dark}}; text-align: center; font-size:85%; {{roundy}}; border: 5px solid #{{water color}}"
|-
! style="width:80px; background:#{{water color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}};" | [[File:007.png]] '''{{pcolor|Squirtle|{{water color dark}}}}'''
! style="width:80px; background:#{{water color light}};" | [[File:158.png]] '''{{pcolor|Totodile|{{water color dark}}}}'''
! colspan="2" style="width:80px; background:#{{water color light}};" | [[File:194.png]] '''{{pcolor|Wooper|{{water color dark}}}}'''
! style="width:80px; background:#{{water color light}};" | [[File:231.png]] '''{{pcolor|Phanpy|{{water color dark}}}}'''
! style="width:80px; background:#{{water color light}};" | [[File:258.png]] '''{{pcolor|Mudkip|{{water color dark}}}}'''
|-
| style="background:#{{water color}}; {{roundybl|5px}};" | {{tcolor|Water|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{water color}}" | {{tcolor|Water|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{water color}}" | {{tcolor|Water|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{ground color}}" | {{tcolor|Ground|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{ground color}}" | {{tcolor|Ground|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{water color}}" | {{tcolor|Water|FFF}}
|-
! style="width:80px; background:#{{water color light}};" | [[File:298.png]] '''{{pcolor|Azurill|{{water color dark}}}}'''
! style="width:80px; background:#{{water color light}};" | [[File:360.png]] '''{{pcolor|Wynaut|{{water color dark}}}}'''
! colspan="2" style="width:80px; background:#{{water color light}};" | [[File:393.png]] '''{{pcolor|Piplup|{{water color dark}}}}'''
! style="width:80px; background:#{{water color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}};" | [[File:447.png]] '''{{pcolor|Riolu|{{water color dark}}}}'''
|-
| style="background:#{{normal color}}" | {{tcolor|Normal|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{psychic color}}" | {{tcolor|Psychic|FFF}}
| colspan="2" style="background:#{{water color}}" | {{tcolor|Water|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{fighting color}}; {{roundybr|5px}};" | {{tcolor|Fighting|FFF}}
|}

In [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon (WiiWare)|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Go For It! Light Adventure Squad!]]:

{| align="center" style="background: #{{electric color dark}}; text-align: center; font-size:85%; {{roundy}}; border: 5px solid #{{electric color}}"
|-
! style="width:80px; background:#{{electric color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}};" | [[File:025.png]] '''{{pcolor|Pikachu|{{electric color dark}}}}'''
! style="width:80px; background:#{{electric color light}};" | [[File:052.png]] '''{{pcolor|Meowth|{{electric color dark}}}}'''
! style="width:80px; background:#{{electric color light}};" | [[File:054.png]] '''{{pcolor|Psyduck|{{electric color dark}}}}'''
! style="width:80px; background:#{{electric color light}};" | [[File:172.png]] '''{{pcolor|Pichu|{{electric color dark}}}}'''
! style="width:80px; background:#{{electric color light}};" | [[File:175.png]] '''{{pcolor|Togepi|{{electric color dark}}}}'''
|-
| style="background:#{{electric color}}; {{roundybl|5px}};" | {{tcolor|Electric|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{normal color}}" | {{tcolor|Normal|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{water color}}" | {{tcolor|Water|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{electric color}}" | {{tcolor|Electric|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{normal color}}" | {{tcolor|Normal|FFF}}
|-
! style="width:80px; background:#{{electric color light}};" | [[File:179.png]] '''{{pcolor|Mareep|{{electric color dark}}}}'''
! style="width:80px; background:#{{electric color light}};" | [[File:239.png]] '''{{pcolor|Elekid|{{electric color dark}}}}'''
! style="width:80px; background:#{{electric color light}};" | [[File:403.png]] '''{{pcolor|Shinx|{{electric color dark}}}}'''
! style="width:80px; background:#{{electric color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}};" | [[File:417.png]] '''{{pcolor|Pachirisu|{{electric color dark}}}}'''
|-
| style="background:#{{electric color}}" | {{tcolor|Electric|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{electric color}}" | {{tcolor|Electric|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{electric color}}" | {{tcolor|Electric|FFF}}
| style="background:#{{electric color}}; {{roundybr|5px}};" | {{tcolor|Electric|FFF}}
|}

====Pokémon Ranger series====
In {{ga|Pokémon Ranger}}, the player starts with either {{p|Plusle}} or {{p|Minun}} as the [[partner Pokémon]]. The one which the {{player}} gets depends on their chosen [[gender]], with males receiving Minun and females receiving Plusle.

{| align="center" style="background: #{{ranger color dark}}; font-size:85%; {{roundy|10px}} border: 5px solid #{{ranger color}}"
|- align="center"
| colspan="2" style="background: #e82010; {{roundytl|5px}}" | {{color2|fff|Solana|Females}}
| colspan="2" style="background: #0070f8; {{roundytr|5px}}" | {{color2|fff|Lunick|Males}}
|-
| colspan="2" align="center" style="width:80px; background:#{{ranger color light}};" | [[File:311.png]]
| colspan="2" align="center" style="width:80px; background:#{{ranger color light}};" | [[File:312.png]]
|- align="center"
| colspan="4" style="background:#{{electric color}}" | {{tcolor|Electric|fff}}
|- align="center" style="background: #{{ranger color light}}"
| style="{{roundybl|5px}}" | [[File:311msra.png]]
| {{pcolor|Plusle|{{ranger color dark}}}}
| [[File:312msra.png]]
| style="{{roundybr|5px}}" | {{pcolor|Minun|{{ranger color dark}}}}
|}

In [[Pokémon Ranger: Shadows of Almia]], the player chooses to start with either {{p|Pachirisu}}, {{p|Starly}}, or {{p|Munchlax}} as the [[partner Pokémon]].

{| align="center" style="background: #{{SoA color dark}}; font-size:85%; {{roundy|10px}} border: 5px solid #{{SoA color}}"
|- align="center"
| colspan="2" style="background: #{{SoA color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | [[Image:417.png]]
| colspan="2" style="background: #{{SoA color light}}" | [[Image:396.png]]
| colspan="2" style="background: #{{SoA color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | [[Image:446.png]]
|- align="center"
| colspan="2" style="background: #{{electric color}}" | {{tcolor|Electric|fff}}
| colspan="2" style="background: #{{flying color}}" | {{tcolor|Flying|fff}}
| colspan="2" style="background: #{{normal color}}" | {{tcolor|Normal|fff}}
|- align="center"
| style="background: #{{SoA color light}}; {{roundybl|5px}}" | [[File:417mssoa.png]]
| style="background: #{{SoA color light}}" | {{pcolor|Pachirisu|{{SoA color dark}}}}
| style="background: #{{SoA color light}}" | [[File:396mssoa.png]]
| style="background: #{{SoA color light}}" | {{pcolor|Starly|{{SoA color dark}}}}
| style="background: #{{SoA color light}}" | [[File:446mssoa.png]]
| style="background: #{{SoA color light}}; {{roundybr|5px}}" | {{pcolor|Munchlax|{{SoA color dark}}}}
|}

In [[Pokémon Ranger: Guardian Signs]], the player's [[partner Pokémon]] is [[ukulele Pichu]].

{| align="center" style="background: #{{GS color dark}}; font-size:85%; {{roundy|10px}} border: 5px solid #{{GS color}}"
|- align="center"
| colspan="2" align="center" style="width:80px; background:#{{GS color light}}; {{roundytop|5px}}" | [[File:172.png]]
|- align="center"
| colspan="2" style="background:#{{electric color}}" | {{tcolor|Electric|fff}}
|- align="center" style="background: #{{GS color light}}"
| style="{{roundybl|5px}}" | [[File:172Umsgs.png]]
| style="{{roundybr|5px}}" | {{pcolor|Pichu|{{GS color dark}}}}
|}

====Pokémon Rumble series====
In [[Pokémon Rumble]], the player starts out with a {{p|Rattata}}.

{| align="center" style="background: #{{sinnoh color dark}}; text-align: center; font-size:85%; {{roundy}}; border: 5px solid #{{sinnoh color}}"
|-
! style="width:80px; background:#{{sinnoh color light}}; {{roundytop|5px}};" | [[File:019.png]] '''{{pcolor|Rattata|{{sinnoh color dark}}}}'''
|-
| style="background:#{{normal color}}; {{roundybottom|5px}};" | {{tcolor|Normal|FFF}}

|}

In [[Pokémon Rumble Blast]], the player starts out with a {{p|Pikachu}}.
{| align="center" style="background: #{{unova color dark}}; text-align: center; font-size:85%; {{roundy}}; border: 5px solid #{{unova color}}"
|-
! style="width:80px; background:#{{unova color light}}; {{roundytop|5px}};" | [[File:025.png]] '''{{pcolor|Pikachu|{{unova color dark}}}}'''
|-
| style="background:#{{electric color}}; {{roundybottom|5px}};" | {{tcolor|Electric|FFF}}

|}

====Pokédex 3D====
In [[Pokédex 3D]], all players begin with these Pokémon.
{| align="center" style="background: #{{Unova color dark}}; text-align: center; font-size:85%; {{roundy}}; border: 5px solid #{{Unova color}}"
|-
! colspan="2" style="width:80px; background:#{{Unova color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}};" | [[File:495.png]] '''{{pcolor|Snivy|{{Unova color dark}}}}'''
! style="width:80px; background:#{{Unova color light}};" | [[File:496.png]] '''{{pcolor|Servine|{{Unova color dark}}}}'''
! style="width:80px; background:#{{Unova color light}};" | [[File:497.png]] '''{{pcolor|Serperior|{{Unova color dark}}}}'''
! style="width:80px; background:#{{Unova color light}};" | [[File:498.png]] '''{{pcolor|Tepig|{{Unova color dark}}}}'''
! style="width:80px; background:#{{Unova color light}};" | [[File:499.png]] '''{{pcolor|Pignite|{{Unova color dark}}}}'''
! style="width:80px; background:#{{Unova color light}};" | [[File:500.png]] '''{{pcolor|Emboar|{{Unova color dark}}}}'''
! style="width:80px; background:#{{Unova color light}};" | [[File:501.png]] '''{{pcolor|Oshawott|{{Unova color dark}}}}'''
! style="width:80px; background:#{{Unova color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}};" | [[File:502.png]] '''{{pcolor|Dewott|{{Unova color dark}}}}'''
|-
! colspan="2" style="width:80px; background:#{{Unova color light}};" | [[File:503.png]] '''{{pcolor|Samurott|{{Unova color dark}}}}'''
! style="width:80px; background:#{{Unova color light}};" | [[File:531.png]] '''{{pcolor|Audino|{{Unova color dark}}}}'''
! style="width:80px; background:#{{Unova color light}};" | [[File:559.png]] '''{{pcolor|Scraggy|{{Unova color dark}}}}'''
! style="width:80px; background:#{{Unova color light}};" | [[File:572.png]] '''{{pcolor|Minccino|{{Unova color dark}}}}'''
! style="width:80px; background:#{{Unova color light}};" | [[File:587.png]] '''{{pcolor|Emolga|{{Unova color dark}}}}'''
! style="width:80px; background:#{{Unova color light}};" | [[File:590.png]] '''{{pcolor|Foongus|{{Unova color dark}}}}'''
! style="width:80px; background:#{{Unova color light}};" | [[File:610.png]] '''{{pcolor|Axew|{{Unova color dark}}}}'''
! style="width:80px; background:#{{Unova color light}};" | [[File:635.png]] '''{{pcolor|Hydreigon|{{Unova color dark}}}}'''
|-
|}

==In the anime==
Upon their tenth birthday, youths can register for a [[Pokédex]] and pick up a starter Pokémon from the local [[Pokémon professor]] or [[Pokémon Center]] free of charge. Starter Pokémon are usually raised specifically to be easy to train.

Like in the games, the specific starter Pokémon available vary from region to region, but are the same in each region as the games. That is, Kanto Trainers can only choose Bulbasaur, Charmander or Squirtle, Johto Trainers can only choose Chikorita, Cyndaquil, or Totodile, and so on.

In ''[[AG025|A Mudkip Mission]]'', it was shown where starter Pokémon come from. Each region has special breeding grounds for starter Pokémon. The [[Pokémon League]] sends these breeders the Pokémon eggs for them to hatch at secret breeding grounds. The breeders then hatch, care for, and raise the young Pokémon until they are ready to be proper starter Pokémon for new Trainers. As these young ones are virtually defenseless, the locations of breeding grounds (or even the knowledge of their existence) is a secret unknown to most in the [[Pokémon world]]. This is likely to guard against unscrupulous individuals or groups (such as [[Team Rocket]]) from poaching the young Pokémon.

Other rookie Trainers may receive their first Pokémon from a friend or relative instead. Others, on the other hand, may befriend a Pokémon in the wild. These mean that Trainers can, in fact, start with any Pokémon.

<gallery perrow=5>
File:Starter Pokemon poster.png|A poster on Ash Ketchum's bedroom wall, depicting the Kanto starter Pokémon
File:LoT starters.png|[[Vincent]], {{jo|Marina}}, and {{jo|Jimmy}} with their starter Pokémon
File:Hoenn starters anime.png|The Hoenn starter Pokémon; owned by Brock, Ash, and May from left to right
File:Sinnoh Starters.png|A postcard that Dawn received from Professor Rowan, depicting the Sinnoh starter Pokémon
File:Unova starters anime.png|The Unova region starter Pokémon in [[Professor Juniper]]'s laboratory
</gallery>

===List of starter Pokémon in the anime===
{{spoilers}}
* {{Ash}} received a {{AP|Pikachu}} from {{an|Professor Oak}}.
* {{an|Brock}} received an {{p|Onix}} from {{ka|Flint|his father}} that now belongs to his brother, [[Forrest]], with whom it evolved into a {{TP|Brock|Steelix}}.
* {{Gary}} received a {{p|Squirtle}} from Professor Oak that [[evolution|evolved]] into a {{TP|Gary|Blastoise}}.
* [[James]]'s first Pokémon is his pet {{p|Growlithe}} named [[Growlie]]. However, he left it at home when he ran away.
* {{an|Casey}} received a {{p|Chikorita}} from [[Professor Elm]] that evolved into a {{TP|Casey|Meganium}}.
* {{Jo|Jimmy}} received a {{p|Cyndaquil}} from Professor Elm that evolved into a {{TP|Jimmy|Typhlosion}}.
* {{Jo|Marina}} received a {{p|Totodile}} from Professor Elm that evolved into a [[Wani-Wani|Feraligatr]].
* [[Vincent]] received a Chikorita from Professor Elm that evolved into a {{TP|Vincent|Meganium}}.
* {{Jo|Harrison}} received a {{p|Torchic}} from [[Professor Birch]] that evolved into a {{TP|Harrison|Blaziken}}.
* {{an|May}} received a Torchic from [[Professor Birch]] that evolved into a {{TP|May|Blaziken}}.
* {{Ho|Tommy}}'s first Pokémon was a {{p|Mudkip}}, that he evolved into a {{p|Marshtomp}}. He lost it on the [[Abandoned Ship]], where it evolved again into {{p|Swampert}}. They were later reunited.
* {{Ho|Stephanie}} (''[[AG034|Having a Wailord of a Time]]'') received a {{p|Mudkip}} from Nurse Joy at the [[Slateport City]] [[Pokémon Center]].
**[[Stephanie's father]] received a {{p|Treecko}} at the same time.
* [[Xander]]'s (''[[AG142|Caterpie's Big Dilemma]]'') Caterpie was implied to be his starter Pokémon in the episode, as he mentioned that his Caterpie was his first Pokémon, albeit it was "not caught".
* {{Ka|Gilbert}} (''[[SS014|Journey to the Starting Line]]'') received a {{p|Bulbasaur}} from Professor Oak.
* {{an|Dawn}} received a {{TP|Dawn|Piplup}} from [[Professor Rowan]].
* [[Yuzo]] said that he started his Pokémon journey with a {{p|Starly}}.
* [[Paul]]'s starter Pokémon was a {{p|Turtwig}}, now a {{TP|Paul|Torterra}}.
* {{Si|Kenny}}'s first Pokémon was a {{p|Piplup}} that evolved into an {{TP|Kenny|Empoleon}}.
* [[Tyler]] (''[[DP080|Thief That Keeps on Thieving!]]'') received a {{p|Piplup}} named ''Pippy'' from an unknown location in East [[Sinnoh]].
* [[Zoey]]'s first Pokémon was a {{TP|Zoey|Glameow}} that she raised after it was abandoned. It is her signature Pokémon.
* [[Max]] intends to begin his journey with the {{p|Ralts}} that he met in ''[[AG109|Do I Hear a Ralts?]]''.
* {{an|Lyra}} received a {{p|Chikorita}} from [[Professor Elm]].
* [[Khoury]] received a {{p|Totodile}} from [[Professor Elm]] that evolved into a {{p|Croconaw}}.
* [[Trip]] received a {{TP|Trip|Snivy}} from [[Professor Juniper]] in ''[[BW001|In The Shadow of Zekrom!]]''.
* {{an|Iris}}'s first Pokémon was a {{TP|Iris|Drilbur|Excadrill}} that she saved from falling off a cliff when she was a little girl.
* Ash was also allowed to keep an {{AP|Oshawott}}, who was a starter Pokémon Professor Juniper was giving away after Oshawott had run away to be with Ash.
* {{an|Bianca}} started with her {{TP|Bianca|Pignite}} which she likely had since a Tepig.
* [[Emmy]] was given her {{p|Druddigon}} from her father when she started her journey.
Several characters have also captured Pokémon in the wild that are, in the games, only available as starter Pokémon.
* Ash Ketchum captured a {{AP|Bulbasaur}}, a {{AP|Charmander}}, and a {{AP|Squirtle}} in quick succession in the [[Kanto]] region. Of the three, only Charmander evolved, becoming a {{p|Charmeleon}}, and later a {{AP|Charizard}}, both of which were ''very'' disobedient to Ash until [[EP105|an incident]] in the [[Orange Archipelago]], after which it served Ash as it had when it was a Charmander. Bulbasaur was also going to evolve, but decided itself against becoming an {{p|Ivysaur}} in ''[[EP051|Bulbasaur's Mysterious Garden]]''.
* Ash also captured the three [[Johto]] region starter Pokémon, {{p|Chikorita}}, {{AP|Cyndaquil}} and {{AP|Totodile}}, of which Cyndaquil and Chikorita evolved, into {{AP|Quilava}} and {{AP|Bayleef}}, respectively.
* Ash captured as well a {{AP|Treecko}} in [[Hoenn]], while Brock captured a {{TP|Brock|Mudkip}}. Treecko evolved twice, becoming {{AP|Sceptile}} before Ash left it at {{an|Professor Oak}}'s lab, while Brock's Mudkip evolved into {{TP|Brock|Marshtomp}}. Along with May's {{TP|May|Torchic}}, the traveling trio had the three starter Pokémon of Hoenn.
* {{an|May}} captured a {{p|Bulbasaur}} midway through her journey in Hoenn, and was given a {{TP|May|Squirtle}} by Professor Oak when she journeyed to Kanto. Bulbasaur evolved all the way into {{TP|May|Venusaur}} during May's travels through Johto. Squirtle also evolved into {{TP|May|Wartortle}} during May's travels through Johto.
* In [[Sinnoh]], Ash repeated himself by capturing {{AP|Turtwig}}, which has since evolved into a {{AP|Torterra}}. His rival, [[Paul]] owned a Chimchar that was confirmed to be caught in the wild. It was released, recaught by Ash, and is now an {{AP|Infernape}}.
* Dawn hatched a {{TP|Dawn|Cyndaquil}} during her journey in Sinnoh.
* Ash reused his pattern from the [[original series]] of capturing all starter Pokémon in [[Unova]], {{AP|Oshawott}}, {{AP|Tepig}} and {{AP|Snivy}}. However this time around he caught them in reverse of the Pokédex order rather than following it as he did in the original series, and Oshawott was in fact a starter Pokémon that Professor Juniper allowed Ash to have after it ran away to be with him.
* Gary Oak had an {{TP|Gary|Eevee}} at least since Ash was traveling in the [[Orange Archipelago|Orange Islands]]. As it was revealed to be under his ownership before his Blastoise, it caused many to hearken back to {{game|Yellow}}, where the player starts with {{p|Pikachu}}, like Ash, and the rival starts with Eevee. Either way, it was disproven that this was the case when Gary finally revealed his Blastoise to Ash. His Eevee eventually evolved into {{TP|Gary|Umbreon}}.

==In the manga==
===In the Pokémon Adventures manga===
In [[Pokémon Adventures]], the starter Pokémon featured in the games are reserved for the few people who hold a Pokédex. [[Professor Oak]] produces three Pokédex for each region, and gives out the three starter Pokémon in each region along with the Pokédex to Trainers he thinks are talented. He has colleagues and friends like Professor Birch do this for him in regions in which he isn't present.

Most characters in the manga do not start out with one of the Pokédex-related starter Pokémon. Instead, they usually have a Pokémon they were given by their parents when they were infants that they use as their starter Pokémon. Occasionally, it is not directly stated which Pokémon were their starter Pokémon in the manga, but in profiles of their teams, their starter Pokémon is marked with a star and is among the highest level in the party, even if they acquired more than one Pokémon at first.

====List of starter Pokémon in Pokémon Adventures====
* {{adv|Red}}'s starter Pokémon was his [[Poli|Poliwag]]. Later, Professor Oak gave him a [[Saur|Bulbasaur]], which became a {{p|Venusaur}} in his travels.
* {{adv|Blue}}'s starter Pokémon was his [[Blue's Scizor|Scyther]]. His grandfather later gave him a {{TP|Blue|Charmander}}, which evolved twice into a {{p|Charizard}} before Red's had.
* {{adv|Green}}'s starter Pokémon was her [[Jiggly|Jigglypuff]]. She stole a [[Blasty|Squirtle]] from Professor Oak and later obtained the third Pokédex after breaking down in tears in front of Professor Oak, who then recognized her a true Pokédex Holder and forgave her theft. By the time this happened, it had already evolved to a {{p|Blastoise}}.
* {{adv|Yellow}}'s starter Pokémon was a [[Ratty|Rattata]] that Red caught for her. Later, she borrowed Red's [[Pika|Pikachu]], and after Red took him back, caught a [[Chuchu|female Pikachu]] for herself. She originally borrowed Red's Pokédex for her journey to find and save Red, which she received permanently in the end of the {{chap|FireRed & LeafGreen}} after the three Pallet Town trainers received National Pokédexes (and the other two copies of the original Pokédex were destroyed dangerously close to the data transfer's finish). Like the Pikachu in {{v2|Yellow}}, neither evolved.
* {{adv|Gold}}'s starter Pokémon was his [[Aibo|Aipom]] that his mother gave him. Professor Elm allows him to keep a [[Exbo|Cyndaquil]], which becomes a {{p|Typhlosion}} alongside the other two starter Pokémon.
* {{adv|Silver}}'s starter Pokémon was the [[Silver's Weavile|Sneasel]] that Giovanni gave him as a child. He later stole a {{TP|Silver|Totodile}} from Professor Elm, as well as the first Pokédex of [[Johto]]. His starter Pokémon evolved twice into a {{p|Feraligatr}}.
* {{adv|Crystal}}'s starter Pokémon is officially her Smoochum, although she acquired many wild Pokémon that lived as a family while she was in the wild. [[Megaree|Chikorita]] later ran away from Professor Elm to go with her, and became a {{p|Meganium}} midway into their journey.
* {{adv|Ruby}}'s starter Pokémon was his Ralts that he received from his father, though he also received his Skitty and Poochyena at the same time. Later, he got Professor Birch's [[Zuzu|Mudkip]]. It evolved into a {{p|Swampert}} from the concussive battles it underwent. He was never formally given the Pokédex, it ended up in his hands, and he was allowed to keep it.
* {{adv|Sapphire}}'s first Pokémon was the [[Rono|Aron]] her father gave her. Later, he gave her a [[Toro|Torchic]] along with her Pokédex, which evolved twice under her care into {{p|Blaziken}}.
* {{adv|Wally}}'s first Pokémon was a Kecleon that Ruby helped him capture. However, he also borrowed Ruby's Ralts and rescued the Treecko intended for Emerald, but they ended up returned to their rightful owners, and the third Pokédex was returned to Birch, which was then finally given to Emerald.
* {{adv|Emerald}}'s first battle Pokémon was the {{TP|Emerald|Sceptile}} he rescued from the {{Gdis|Battle Frontier|III}}, which was supposed to be his in the first place. It evolved from its {{p|Grovyle}} stage in the wild, after evolving once in Wally's care.
* {{adv|Diamond}}'s first was his Munchlax, and later he received a [[Tru|Turtwig]] from Professor Rowan because of a misunderstanding. It has since evolved to {{p|Torterra}} alongside the others.
* {{adv|Pearl}}'s first was his [[Chatler|Chatot]], and later he received a [[Chimler|Chimchar]] from Professor Rowan with Diamond. The Chimchar has since evolved twice into an {{p|Infernape}}.
* {{adv|Platinum}}'s first Pokémon was her [[Platinum's Rapidash|Ponyta]], and later she received a [[Platinum's Empoleon|Piplup]] from Professor Rowan. It has since become an {{p|Empoleon}} under her care.
* {{adv|Black}} started with a {{p|Rufflet}} and a {{p|Munna}} and later acquired a {{p|Tepig}} from [[Professor Juniper]].

==Trivia==
* For [[DP001]], [[Professor Oak's lecture]] is about the starter Pokémon of Sinnoh. He writes this [[Pokémon senryū]] about them: シンオウで　たびがはじまる　ポケモンと ''Shin'ō de tabi ga hajimaru Pokémon to.'' "In [[Sinnoh]], a journey begins with Pokémon."
* For [[BW003]], [[Professor Oak's lecture]] is about the starter Pokémon of Unova. He writes this [[Pokémon senryū]] about them: パートナー　みず・くさ・ほのお　まよっちゃう ''Pātonā, mizu kusa honō, mayocchau.'' "Partner, {{t|Water}}, {{t|Grass}}, {{t|Fire}}, I can't decide."
* All starter Pokémon in the [[main series]] besides Pikachu have a 7:1 ratio of males to females.
** Due to this, as well as the way in which gender and shininess were determined, it was impossible to have a {{Shiny}} female starter Pokémon in [[Generation II]], as the lowest Attack {{IV}} a [[Shiny Pokémon]] could have was 2, while the highest Attack IV a female Pokémon in that gender group could have was 1.
* Each of the {{type2|Grass}} starter Pokémon is based on a reptilian creature, with Bulbasaur and Chikorita being based on {{wp|dicynodont|prehistoric}} {{wp|sauropod|reptiles}}, Treecko on {{wp|gecko}}s, Turtwig on {{wp|turtle}}s, and Snivy on a lizard/snake.
* The Hoenn starter Pokémon all evolve for the first time at level 16, then again at level 36. The Unova starter Pokémon all evolve for the first time at level 17, and then again at level 36. Other trios have differences among the three in either one or both evolutionary levels.
* The starter Pokémon from [[Generation I]] are the only ones to appear in more than one [[regional Pokédex]].
* In interviews with [[Junichi Masuda]] during 2009, he stated that starter Pokémon are the Pokémon from each game that the most work goes into, and usually take significantly more time than other Pokémon in each generation.
* When a starter Pokémon is first obtained, all are at level 5. Each knows one {{type2|Normal}} [[physical move]] and a stat-altering [[status move]] at this level, except for {{p|Pikachu}}, which has {{m|ThunderShock}} instead of a Normal-type move.
* Other than the Mystery Dungeon series, Pokémon Colosseum is the only Pokémon game that the player starts out with two Pokémon. They are also the highest leveled.
* In {{game5|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum|Black|White}}, all of the starter Pokémon are taken, instead of one being left at the lab.
* All of the Grass-type starter Pokémon have the ability {{a|Overgrow}}, the Fire-type ones {{a|Blaze}}, and the Water-type ones {{a|Torrent}}. The exception to this are the evolutions of the {{p|Eevee}} obtained in Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness.
** However, through the {{pkmn|Dream World}}, it is possible to find starter Pokémon with other abilities.
* In the [[National Pokédex]] and the regional Pokédexes, the Grass-type starter Pokémon comes numerically before the others. The Water-type ones always come last numerically.
* Espeon and Umbreon are the only starter Pokémon that are received fully evolved. Also, these two are the only starter Pokémon which are received together.
* Neither of the main series starter Pokémon that are based on birds ({{p|Torchic}} and {{p|Piplup}}) are {{type2|Flying}} nor are able to {{m|fly}}.
* {{p|Bulbasaur}} is the only starter Pokémon in the main series to have a secondary type in its unevolved stage.
* All three Johto starter Pokémon stay a single type throughout their evolutionary lines, while all three Sinnoh starter Pokémon have dual-types by their last evolutionary stage.
* All three starter Pokémon types in the main series (with the exception of {{t|Electric}}) has had one Pokémon in its final-stage of evolution to have a double weakness; {{p|Charizard}} is doubly weak to {{type2|Rock}}, {{p|Swampert}} is doubly weak to {{type2|Grass}} and {{p|Torterra}} is doubly weak to {{type2|Ice}}.
* Two of the three Johto fully evolved starter Pokémon, {{p|Typhlosion}} and {{p|Feraligatr}}, share the position of the fully evolved starter Pokémon to have the longest name. However, they tie with the not fully evolved starter Pokémon {{p|Charmander}} and {{p|Charmeleon}}. Also, two of the three Unova starter Pokémon, {{p|Snivy}} and {{p|Tepig}}, share the position of the starter Pokémon or its evolutions with the shortest name.
* All three of the [[Unova]] starters start out with the ability to use {{m|Tackle}} as part of their movesets. They also start out with the ability to learn a status move that lowers the opponent's defense by one level, with {{p|Snivy}} knowing {{m|Leer}} and {{p|Tepig}} and {{p|Oshawott}} knowing {{m|Tail Whip}}.
* All evolved {{type|Fire}} starter Pokémon introduced since [[Generation III]] have had a secondary type of {{t|Fighting}}.

===Anime similarities===
* Ash has owned all five Grass-type starter Pokémon: {{AP|Bulbasaur}}, {{AP|Chikorita}}, {{AP|Treecko}}, {{AP|Turtwig}} and {{AP|Snivy}}. All of them except Bulbasaur and Snivy have evolved since then.
*Each {{type2|Water}} starter Pokémon obtained by a main character was not battled: [[Ash's Squirtle]] and {{AP|Oshawott}} chose to join his team, while Ash fought and won against Misty for his {{AP|Totodile}}. Brock did not battle {{TP|Brock|Mudkip}} to obtain it. May received her {{TP|May|Squirtle}} from [[Professor Oak]], and Dawn received her {{TP|Dawn|Piplup}} from [[Professor Rowan]].
* {{p|Charmander}} and {{p|Treecko}} are both based on lizards (salamander, gecko). Ash had the final forms of them: {{AP|Charizard}} and {{AP|Sceptile}}. A real life salamander is an amphibian, not a lizard; however, Charmander is based upon the legendary creature known as the {{wp|salamander (legendary creature)|Salamander}}.
* {{p|Squirtle}} and {{p|Turtwig}} are both based on turtles and were the starter Pokémon of two of Ash's rivals, {{Gary}} and [[Paul]].
* {{p|Torchic}} and {{p|Piplup}} are both based on birds (chicken, penguin). They were also both owned by the anime's resident [[Pokémon Coordinator]]s.
* Both May and Dawn have a second starter Pokémon from a previous generation with a type disadvantage to their first. These starter Pokémon are both from two generations prior to their owner's introduction, and featured in the anime likely due to the same-generation [[remake]]s.

==Notes==
{{Starter Pokémon|Arceus}}

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Ruby (Adventures)

2011-10-02T00:18:22Z

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jname=ルビー|
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caption=Ruby |
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years=12 (as of [[List of rounds in the sixth chapter of Pokémon Adventures|the sixth chapter]]) |
gender=Male|
birthday=July 2|
hometown=[[Goldenrod City]]|
region=[[Johto]]|
relatives= [[Norman]], Unnamed mother|
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eyes=Red|
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'''Ruby''' (Japanese: '''ルビー''' ''Ruby'') is the eighth main character of the manga series [[Pokémon Adventures]]. As a counterpart to {{adv|Sapphire}}, Ruby has a great passion for [[Pokémon Contest]]s. While he's an excellent battler, he only fights when necessary or when no one takes notice. He believes that Pokémon battles are barbaric, and get his Pokémon dirty — something that he does not like.

His first Pokémon were {{p|Skitty}}, {{p|Poochyena}}, and {{p|Ralts}}, all given by his father [[Norman]]; his "starter" Pokémon was a {{p|Mudkip}} which he received from [[Professor Birch]].

Ruby has admitted to having a [[FranticShipping|crush]] on his rival, Sapphire.

==Personality==
Ruby's extremely good at sewing and knitting. He makes clothes for all his Pokémon to wear, and even made Sapphire the clothes she wears for much of her adventures. He is shortsighted and wears contacts to correct his eyes as he is too vain to wear glasses. His other hobby is photography. He has a photo album of all of his Pokémon's biggest moments - such as evolutions or contest victories. He's not shy about showing it off, either. He is constantly lying to Sapphire about not being powerful enough, but then, his secret is revealed when he tries to save Sapphire from the Grumpig stampede.

Ruby can be quite shallow at times, putting too much emphasis on outward appearances. He even once kicked Mimi out of his party for not being beautiful enough. Recently, however, Mimi returned to Ruby and, after being mocked by [[Archie]] for being weak and ugly, Ruby declared that Mimi had inner beauty and it evolved into a Milotic.

==Character history==
===Past===
[[File:Young ruby.png|thumb|right|Ruby when he was younger]]
Ruby was born in [[Goldenrod City]], Johto. His father was [[Norman]], who was an aspiring Gym leader. He met Sapphire once, and the young Ruby and Sapphire had a lot of fun with each other, until their fun was interrupted by a {{p|Salamence}}. Acting quickly, Ruby was able to knock it out with his {{OBP|Pokémon|species}}, but got his forehead split open in the process. It was his fault that his father failed the Gym Leader Test because the Salamence broke into Rayquaza's containment area and set it free. At that time, Rayquaza was being held by the Pokémon Association near the place he and Sapphire were playing. Sapphire ran away crying, and later came to realize she ruined Ruby's dignity, and vowed to become stronger. Ruby, on the other hand, realized he had been too brutal, and promised to suppress his strength in battle.

==={{chap|Ruby & Sapphire}}===
[[File:Ruby RSchapter.png|thumb|left|250px|Ruby in the Ruby and Sapphire chapter]]
On his eleventh birthday, Ruby and his mother moved to [[Littleroot Town]], [[Hoenn]]. Ruby was displeased with this decision as he preferred [[Johto]]'s modern cities over Hoenn's rural countryside. After getting to the small town, Ruby ran away as he didn't want to face his father, who didn't approve of Ruby's hobby of Pokémon Contests. Just as he left the town, he met [[Professor Birch]], who was attacked by two {{p|Mightyena}}. Ruby refused to battle, stating his reason was because he didn't want his Pokémon dirty. Instead, he asked the two Dark-types to join him on his quest to conquer the contests of Hoenn. However, they started to chase him. Ruby still didn't fear him and instead picked up Birch's nearby Pokédex and used it to learn about Mightyena.

Amazed by the fact that the Mightyena were evolved, he sent out his [[Nana]], a {{p|Poochyena}}, and showed off her elegant moves against the stronger Pokémon. However, the attacks did no damage and Ruby and Birch were forced to run from the wild Pokémon. Due to the [[Running Shoes]] that had been given to him by his parents for his birthday, Ruby got ahead of Birch and fell off a cliff and was knocked unconscious. Fortunately, a mysterious {{adv|Sapphire|Pokémon}} caught him and brought him into its cave.

Ruby was soon awakened by the lick of Nana. Upon waking up, he received a call on Professor Birch's [[Pokégear]] from the researcher himself. Ruby explained where he was and Birch introduced himself formally. During the conversation, Ruby realized that Birch was a friend of his father but the man didn't know that the boy had ran away yet.

The Pokémon then noticed that Ruby was awake and spoke to him. Shocked, Ruby backed up in fear and Nana attacked it. The Pokémon then revealed itself to be a human girl. She attacked Nana with her {{p|Torchic}}. In order to help the boy, Birch told him to take out the {{type2|Water}} Pokémon {{p|Mudkip}} out of his bag. Ruby was disappointed by the lack of coolness and beauty in the Pokémon, but stated that it could be in a tough contest. Ruby refused to battle, which angered the girl. It was at that point that Birch realized that it was his daughter {{adv|Sapphire}} that Ruby was fighting. As Birch explained this to Ruby, the reception between the two was lost. Moments later, the two children were attacked by a {{p|Seviper}}.

Ruby still refused to fight, forcing Sapphire to defeat the Tail Snake Pokémon all by herself. After this the two got into an argument over their interests, which made Sapphire ask Ruby to take a bet. The two would go on a journey and see who would reach their goals in 80 days. Ruby agreed and then Sapphire fainted from the damage that she received from the battle with the Mightyena. Realizing the girl was hurt, Ruby helped her and left her some new clothes. Before he left, the Seviper awakened, but Ruby released a mysterious light from a Poké Ball and the Seviper fell to the floor.

After leaving the cave, Ruby came to a bridge, where he showed his new Mudkip how to perform in a contest. When he had the Water-type try for itself, they were attacked by a {{p|Dustox}}. He and his [[party]] ran away and Ruby noticed that he had accidentally forgotten to give back Birch's Pokédex. The machine then scanned the {{type2|Bug}} and Ruby learned that it was incredibly powerful. However, Mudkip saved them with his {{m|Water Gun}} and Ruby nicknamed it [[Zuzu]]. He then set off yet again.

The next day, Ruby arrived in [[Petalburg City]]. He headed through the city carefully so that he wouldn't be found by his father. However, he came across a sickly boy named {{adv|Wally}}, who had been attacked by a {{p|Nuzleaf}} while trying to catch a Pokémon. After receiving a complement from the other boy, Ruby quickly offered to try and catch a Pokémon for him. However, Ruby learned that his dad was coming to help Wally do the task!

Upon seeing his father come, Ruby grabbed Wally and jumped into a nearby bush. Wally, however, came out and asked Norman if he would help him catch a Pokémon but the Gym leader said that he wouldn't because Wally was too ill to journey with one. Although his father nearly caught him, Ruby was able to stay hidden, but when he came out of hiding he found Wally unconscious on the ground.

Ruby took the sick boy home and that night the two left home and Ruby promised to let Wally use his {{p|Ralts|Ruru}} in order to catch a Pokémon. The two found a {{p|Kecleon}}, which Wally was determined to catch. Although Wally failed to catch it many times, Ruby stuck by him and was given a [[PokéNav]] as thanks. After Wally caught Kecleon, the area they were in was struck by an earthquake and Ruby fell into the sea. Thankfully though, he was saved by [[Mr. Briney]], who took him to [[Dewford Island]].

After arriving on Dewford, he once again met up with Sapphire and went into the [[Granite Cave]] in order to find the powerful, yet beautiful Water-type Pokémon {{p|Milotic}}. However, he instead found a bunch of {{p|Mawile}}. He, however, was saved by [[Steven Stone]]. During the battle with the Mawile, Ruby's Nana and {{Adv|Coco}} evolved. After the battle, Ruby left the Island by riding Sapphire's {{p|Wailord|Walo}}. One night, they stopped at the [[Abandoned Ship]] on {{rt|109|Hoenn}}. There, Ruby and Sapphire teamed up with a {{p|Plusle}} and a {{p|Minun}} to fight [[Team Magma]]. After this fight, the two trainers left the {{type2|Electric}}s behind.

Soon, Ruby was let off Walo at [[Slateport City]]. There, his Zuzu evolved into {{p|Marshtomp}}, which attracted the notice of the Hoenn [[Pokémon Fan Club Chairman]], who took Ruby to the Contest Hall, where they made Poké Blocks with [[Captain Stern]] before being taken away by Team Magma, who was targeting Stern. Ruby fought against Mack in the S.S. Kaien 1 in order to free the Chairman and Stern.

After winning, he drifted away from Slateport and landed on {{rt|118|Hoenn}}, where he caught a {{p|Feebas}} before being attacked by a {{p|Zangoose}} and a {{p|Seviper}}. Ruby and the Swimmer that he had befriended escaped into the [[Weather Institute]], where Ruby was found by Norman.

[[File:Norman saving Ruby.png|thumb|right|Ruby being saved by Norman]]
The father and son had a showdown between the two, which resulted in Ruby falling off the Weather Institute but was saved by Norman, who gave Ruby permission to participate in contests. Overjoyed, Ruby headed off with [[Gabby & Ty|Maryann and Tyler]], a pair of interviewers who had witnessed the battle between Ruby and his father, to [[Verdanturf Town]]. There, he participated in, and won, all of the normal rank contests. After winning he spotted Wally in the crowd and chased after him, only to find out it was not Wally, but his cousin [[Wanda]].

Soon, Ruby, Tyler and Maryann heard of a riot caused by {{p|Whismur}}. They went to the [[Rusturf Tunnel]] to investigate and fought against Team Magma's [[Marge]]. After a long battle, Ruby and his two new comrades headed towards [[Fallarbor Town]].

Upon arriving in the small, Ruby immediately entered the Tough, Cool, Cute and Smart categories of the Super Rank contests. However, he was too late to enter the Beauty category and was forced to watch. During the Beauty category, he fell in love with [[Wallace]]'s performance and, afterward, asked the older man to be his master. Although Wallace originally refused, he changed his mind after witnessing Ruby battle. The two then headed for [[Fortree City]], where Wallace was to meet with the other Gym leaders.

After arriving in the city, Ruby meet up with Sapphire again and battled against a group of {{p|Grumpig}}, during witch Sapphire realized that Ruby wasn't as weak as he claimed to be. This led to the biggest argument between the two and Sapphire telling Ruby that she never wanted to see him again.

Due to this argument, Ruby ran from Fortree and went to the flooded Slateport City and participating in all the Hyper Rank contests. He won all of them too, but lost to Wallace in the beauty category, which led to Ruby telling {{Adv|Mimi}} that she was ugly after which Mimi ran away from Ruby, who cried himself unconscious.

[[File:Ruby Vol 22.png|thumb|250px|left|Ruby in the last R/S chapter volume]]When he awoke, he was feeling bad about what he had done when he saw Sapphire on TV, along with her new {{p|Relicanth}}, which he recognized as the Pokémon that Mr. Briney said could {{m|dive}} deep into the sea. Realizing that he was the only one who knew this, Ruby left the first aid station and saved a blind boy's {{p|Magikarp}} that he had initially thought was Mimi. The boy then made Ruby realize that he should help out in the crisis that was happening in Hoenn and Ruby then sent a letter to Wallace stating that he would fight against the Ancient Pokémon.

Wallace drove Ruby in his air car to Sapphire's location. He then explained to everyone that Relicanth could take him and Sapphire to the [[Seafloor Cavern]]. They then dived under the sea together, their goal to defeat Maxie and Archie.

At the bottom of the sea, the young pair squared off against Maxie and Archie, gaining the edge by taking advantage of their selfish mindsets. However, the two leaders became fully taken over by the power of the orbs they held, and dragged their foes to [[Sootopolis City]], where the two titans were having their tremendous battle. Ruby and Sapphire, seeing the overwhelming power the two monsters held before them, lose all hope and tell their mentors to abscond. [[Winona]] and Wallace, however, managed to snap them out of it, and after the two young [[Pokédex Holder]]s reminisce of their forgotten past, are able to drive the Red and Blue orbs out of the insane leaders' bodies using the [[Meteorite]] that deactivated [[Mt. Chimney]] earlier.

In the ensuing explosion, the two were blown away, and soon were then taken to Mirage Island, where they, under the leadership of Wallace's master [[Juan]], trained and learned that they had absorbed the Blue and Red Orbs. After they complete their training and learn to control the orbs to their will, Sapphire receives the [[Badge#Mind Badge|Mind]] and {{badge|Rain}}s.

[[File:Rubynohat.png|thumb|right|Ruby, without his hat, revealing his scar]]
Just before leaving Mirage Island to embark on their final mission, Sapphire told a shocked Ruby that she liked him. Before Ruby could respond, they had to leave and he didn't get to tell that he felt the same way until they reached [[Sootopolis City]], where he pushed Sapphire away in order to protect her. Ruby then left with Marge in order to fight against Maxie, Archie, and the Ancient Pokémon {{p|Groudon}} and {{p|Kyogre}}.

After Marge's death, Ruby reunited with Mimi, who then evolved into a {{p|Milotic}}. Sapphire then came to the battle field and the two rivals charged up {{p|Plusle}} and {{p|Minun}} and finally defeated Archie and Maxie. Ruby then used Celebi to restore peace.

The next day was the eightieth day of the bet and Ruby had succeed in his goal of getting all of the ribbons in Hoenn. He then ran off into the sunset with Sapphire to Littleroot Town, where a party was awaiting them.

==={{chap|Emerald}}===
[[File:Ruby Emerald Chapter.png|thumb|left|190px|Ruby in the sixth chapter]]
Almost a year later, Ruby, along with {{Adv|Sapphire}}, was sent to the Battle Frontier by [[Professor Birch]] to help out the third [[Pokédex holder]] {{Adv|Emerald}} in his quest to save {{p|Jirachi}} from [[Guile Hideout]]. They first met up with the boy at the Battle Dome but it soon became clear that he resented them. So, in order to get to know Emerald, the two entered the Battle Dome tournament. Ruby fought Emerald in the semi-finals but lost. He did however help [[Emerald's Sceptile]] regain its memories of its past with [[Professor Birch]]. He and Sapphire were then kicked out of the Battle Dome by Emerald.

Outside, the two ran into [[Palace Maven Spenser]], who recognized Sapphire as a person who had held the {{DL|List of key items in Generation III|Blue Orb}}. Ruby found this odd and recorded this encounter with the power of the Memory Lighter that he had been given from Marge. After Guile Hideout captured Jirachi, Ruby and Sapphire teamed up with {{FB|Factory Head|Noland}} and Emerald and challenged the Battle Tower as a four man team.

On the top floor, the team found {{FB|Salon Maiden|Anabel}} brainwashed and under the control of Guile Hideout. With the use of {{p|Latios}} and {{p|Latias}} shared sight ability, Spenser informed the trio of Pokédex Holders that Guile had touched the Blue Orb, forcing Guile to reveal his true identity as [[Archie]]. After Archie summoned the Great Sea Beast to flood the Battle Frontier, Ruby, Sapphire and Emerald were joined by {{adv|Crystal}} and {{adv|Gold}}, who revealed that Ruby and Sapphire needed Jirachi to revive their senior Pokédex Holders {{adv|Red}}, {{adv|Blue}}, {{adv|Green}}, {{adv|Yellow}} and {{adv|Silver}}, who had all been petrified by a beam that was meant for {{p|Deoxys}} at the end of the {{chap|FireRed and LeafGreen}}.

After Emerald was able to awaken the older Pokédex Holders from their petrification, Ruby used Zuzu's newly learned {{m|Hydro Cannon}} attack to destroy the sea beast. After the battle was over, Ruby participated in a tournament between all ten Pokédex Holders, which he, at some point, lost.
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==Pokémon==
This listing is for Ruby's Pokémon as of the most recent chapter.

===On hand===
{{TrainerPoké
|main=Nana
|trainer=Ruby
|pkmn=Mightyena
|nick=Nana
|gender=female
|type1=Dark
|img=Nana.png
|epnum=PS181
|epname=VS. Cacnea
|desc='''Nana''' (Jp: '''{{tt|NANA|ナナ}}''') was a {{p|Poochyena}} when Norman gave her to Ruby, having learned {{m|Hyper Beam}} from the man. She {{p|Mightyena|evolved}} in Granite Cave while fighting off a group of {{p|Mawile}}. Ruby uses her in [[Cool Contest]]s and she has an Adamant nature. Her Contest call is, "Regardless of the effects of time, the coolness that this body encompasses never changes. Carrying with her the tough {{a|Intimidate}}, this is the Pokémon Mightyena—Nana!"}}

{{TrainerPoké
|main=Coco (Adventures)
|trainer=Ruby
|pkmn=Delcatty
|nick=Coco
|gender=female
|type1=Normal
|img=Coco Delcatty.png
|epnum=PS181
|epname=VS. Cacnea
|desc='''Coco''' (Jp: '''{{tt|COCO|ココ}}''') was also given to Ruby when he was a child by [[Norman]] (as a {{p|Skitty}}), who taught her {{m|Iron Tail}}. She {{p|Delcatty|evolved}} in [[Granite Cave]] after touching a {{evostone|Moon Stone}} on [[Steven Stone]]'s belt. She is used in [[Cute Contest]]s. She has a [[Nature|Naive nature]] and her Contest call is, "Regardless of the effects of time, the cuteness that this body encompasses never changes. Oozing {{a|Cute Charm}} from her body, this is the Pokémon Delcatty—Coco!"}}

{{TrainerPoké
|main=Zuzu
|trainer=Ruby
|pkmn=Swampert
|nick=Zuzu
|gender=male
|type1=Water
|type2=Ground
|img=Zuzu Swampert.png
|epnum=PS182
|epname=VS. Mightyena
|desc=When Ruby picked one Pokémon in Professor Birch's bag to use against Sapphire's [[Toro]], he had chosen the {{p|Mudkip}} as he had a type advantage over the unknown "attacker's" {{p|Torchic}}. '''Zuzu''' (Jp: '''{{tt|ZUZU|ズズ}}''') tended to have a running nose until his final evolution. Later on, he evolved into a {{p|Marshtomp}} at Slateport fighting a {{tc|Magma Admin}} and later evolved into a {{p|Swampert}} at [[Fortree City]] from the experience it gathered in its various battles afterward. Then during the battle at {{ci|Sootopolis}}, he partnered up with Sapphire's Toro against Archie and Maxie to free the Red and Blue Orbs, and succeeds in defeating their Pokémon and forcing them to flee. In the Emerald arc, he was used in Ruby's Battle Dome and Tower challenges, though he isn't the one to battle [[Emerald's Sceptile]]. Then after he learned Hydro Cannon from the bangle Kimberly has given Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald, he teamed up with the other starters to defeat [[Guile Hideout]]'s giant, fake Kyogre. Ruby uses Zuzu in [[Tough Contest]]s, thus mastering all the ranks during the [[Timeline of Ruby and Sapphire's 80-day challenge|80-day challenge]] in the Ruby and Sapphire arc. He has a Relaxed nature and his Contest call is, "Regardless of the effects of time, the toughness that this body encompasses never changes. Boiling with raging {{a|Torrent}}, this is the Pokémon Swampert—Zuzu!"}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Ruby
|pkmn=Castform
|nick=Popo
|gender=female
|type1=Normal
|img={{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: H}} mod 3}}|0|1=Popo|2=Popo Forecast Rainy}}.png
|img2=Popo Forecast {{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: H}} mod 3}}|0|1=Sunny|2=Snowy}}.png
|epnum=PS188
|epname=VS. Lombre
|desc='''Popo''' (Jp: '''{{tt|POPO|ポポ}}''') is a {{p|Castform}} given to Ruby by Maryann and Tyler after Ruby's battle with Norman at the [[Weather Institute]]. She was originally owned by [[Mr. Stone]]. She was used in [[Smart Contest]]s. Her ability is Forecast and she has a Careful nature. Her contest call is, "Regardless of the effects of time, the smartness that this body encompasses never changes. Hopping between rain, sun, and snow with {{a|Forecast}}, this is the Pokémon Castform—Popo!"

Popo's known moves are {{m|Sunny Day}}, {{m|Shadow Ball}}, {{m|Hail}}, and {{m|Weather Ball}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|main=Mimi (Adventures)
|trainer=Ruby
|pkmn=Milotic
|nick=Mimi
|gender=female
|type1=Water
|img=Mimi Milotic.png
|epnum=PS206
|epname=VS. Feebas
|desc=Ruby fished the {{p|Feebas}} later known as '''Mimi''' (Jp: '''{{tt|MIMI|ミミ}}''') in Route 118. Mimi evolved into {{p|Milotic}} after receiving the Beauty Contest Hyper Rank Ribbon from [[Wallace]]. She is used in [[Beauty Contest]]s. Her ability is {{a|Marvel Scale}} and she has a Modest nature. Her Contest call as a Feebas was, "Regardless of what becomes of the body, the beauty that lies in the heart never changes. Floating with {{a|Swift Swim}}, this is the Pokémon Feebas—Mimi!" but after her evolution it became, "Having released its body with its heart, it shines with overwhelming beauty. Possessing the Marvel Scale, this is the Pokémon Milotic—Mimi!"}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Ruby
|pkmn=Kirlia
|nick=Ruru
|gender=female
|type1=Psychic
|img=Ruru.png
|epnum=PS181
|epname=VS. Cacnea
|desc='''Ruru''' (Jp: '''{{tt|RURU|ルル}}''') was also given to Ruby by his father as a {{p|Ralts}}. Ruby had intended to use her in [[Smart Contest]]s, but she was lent to {{adv|Wally}}, who (inadvertently) kept her for quite some time after Ruby nearly drowned from being caught in an earthquake where they first met. She evolved into a {{p|Kirlia}} during Wally's training under [[Norman]]'s wing, something which Wally thought he had no right to have initiated, as she wasn't his own Pokémon to keep. Norman reassured the sickly boy, telling him that since he was the one who gave the Pokémon to Ruby, it's all right as Norman originally caught it. After the scuffle with {{p|Kyogre}} and {{p|Groudon}} was resolved, she was returned to Ruby, and was used in the {{Gdis|Battle Frontier|III}} against {{adv|Emerald}}'s {{p|Dusclops}}. She has a Gentle nature and has the ability {{a|Synchronize}}.

Ruru's known moves are {{m|Confusion}}, {{m|Imprison}}, and {{m|Hypnosis}}.}}

===Status unknown===
{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Ruby
|pkmn=Plusle
|gender=male
|type1=Electric
|img=Ruby Plusle.png
|epnum=PS198
|epname=VS. Plusle & Minun I
|desc=Plusle met Ruby on the [[Abandoned Ship]], where he helped the boy fight Team Magma. He was later partnered with Ruby during his training on [[Mirage Island]] and in the final battle. He hasn't been seen since. He has a Jolly nature and the ability {{a|Plus}}.

Plusle's known moves are {{m|Double Team}}, {{m|Helping Hand}}, and {{m|Fake Tears}}.}}

===Released===
{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Ruby
|pkmn=Celebi
|type1=Psychic
|type2=Grass
|img=Ruby Celebi.png
|epnum=PS267
|epname=The Final Battle VIII
|desc=Ruby caught Celebi in [[Johto]] without knowing how to deal with its powers. He used it to take the Red and Blue orbs from [[Maxie]] and [[Archie]]. As a secondary effect, Celebi revived his loved ones including his [[Norman|father]]. After fulfilling its duty, Celebi left Hoenn and Ruby behind.}}

==Backpack==
[[File:Ruby Running Shoes.png|thumb|left|Ruby using his running shoes]]
Besides necessities, Ruby also has a "Makeup Box" and "Sewing Box" in his backpack, for his contest appearances. Ruby has a pair of [[Running Shoes]] made by the [[Devon Corporation]] which he received from his father for his eleventh birthday. They're extremely powerful and useful, and propel Ruby along the ground with bursts of compressed air.

Ruby's eyes are {{wp|Myopia|myopic}}, and he has a pair of glasses to correct this. He's usually too vain to wear them, though.

==Trivia==
* Ruby is the first main character whose starter Pokémon has a type advantage over that of his rival (his Mudkip vs {{adv|Sapphire}}'s {{p|Torchic}}).
* Ruby's birthday is July 2nd.
** A ruby is the birthstone for those born in July.
* Ruby's blood type is O.
* All of Ruby's Pokémon have nicknames in which the first two letters are repeated.
* Ruby shares his {{wp|astrological sign}} with {{adv|Gold}}; they are both {{wp|Cancer (astrology)|Cancer}}.

==Names==
{| class="roundy" align="left" style="background: #{{ruby color light}}; border: 3px solid #{{ruby color}}"
|- align=center
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Language
! Name
! style="{{roundytr|5px}}" | Origin
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Japanese
|ルビー ''Ruby''
|From the game, {{game3|Ruby and Sapphire|Pokémon Ruby|s}}.
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|English (Singapore)
|Ruby
|From the game, {{game3|Ruby and Sapphire|Pokémon Ruby|s}}.
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Korean
|루비 ''Ruby''
|From the game, {{game3|Ruby and Sapphire|Pokémon Ruby|s}}.
|- style="background:#FFF;"
|Chinese
|路比 ''Lùbǐ''
|Phonetical translation of Ruby.
|}{{-}}

==Related pages==
*[[Timeline of Ruby and Sapphire's 80-day challenge]]

==External links==
* [http://netkun.com/pockemon/story/comic/character/ruby/ruby.html Netkun on Ruby] (Japanese)

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Talk:Wally (Adventures)

2011-07-29T20:42:18Z

Pocketfanmk: Created page with "==Third Pokedex holder== I'm not too sure, but I believe I've read somewhere that Coronis said a while that back Wally was registered as the third Dex Holder in the magazine vers..."

==Third Pokedex holder==
I'm not too sure, but I believe I've read somewhere that Coronis said a while that back Wally was registered as the third Dex Holder in the magazine version? And also apparently there is some Netkun page that states he is the first Pokedex holder without a colored name? (This was before Emerald came along) Since it seems as if this was the writer's original intention (not being an Emerald representation but being the THIRD HoennDex Holder), should we add that somewhere in the article like the intro or trivia? [[User:Pocketfanmk|Pocketfanmk]] 20:42, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

History of the Pokémon world

2011-07-11T07:42:50Z

Pocketfanmk:

{{fan speculation}}

There are many stories and legends surrounding the history of the [[Pokémon world]] as it is known to us today. Nobody knows if such legends are true or not, but there are many clues in the games, anime and manga that suggest that they are.

Below is a timeline of events in the history of the Pokémon world, primarily those established in the [[canon]] of the [[Pokémon game]]s since these apply most to other forms of canon. There is also a separate [[Timeline of events in the anime|timeline of events]] for the [[Pokémon anime]].

Please note that the below timeline is based on speculation and possible information from different aspects of the Pokémon franchise.

It is still unknown exactly where Generation V fits in the timeline, but a Team Rocket Grunt and [[Cynthia]] reveal that it must occur a few years after the events of {{game|Platinum}}.

==Timeline==
===Beginning of the {{pkmn|universe}}===
This information is based primarily on [[Sinnoh myths|the mythology]] of both the [[Hoenn]] and [[Sinnoh]] regions.
[[File:Dialga-Palkia-Giratina.jpg|thumb|right|290px|Palkia, Giratina and Dialga]]
* In a vortex of complete chaos and nothingness, a single {{pkmn|egg}} comes into being, which then hatches into {{p|Arceus}}, the first Pokémon in existence. Arceus creates {{p|Dialga}}, {{p|Palkia}}, and {{p|Giratina}}, giving them power over {{wp|time}}, {{wp|space}}, and {{wp|antimatter}}. Giratina, as punishment for its destructive nature, is sent by Arceus to live in the [[Distortion World]]. Dialga and Palkia succeed in creating the universe and [[Pokémon world]], retreating into their own [[dimensions]] afterwards, with a point of access being at the ancient [[Spear Pillar]] in Sinnoh.
* Arceus creates {{p|Uxie}}, {{p|Mesprit}}, and {{p|Azelf}}, giving knowledge, emotion, and willpower to all living things that come into existence in the Pokémon world. The three dive into caves at the bottom of [[Lake Verity]], [[Lake Valor]], and [[Lake Acuity]] in Sinnoh, giving them the name "[[lake guardians]]".
* {{p|Kyogre}} is formed by the pressure in the deep sea trenches, {{p|Groudon}} is formed deep inside the Earth, likely from hardened magma and earth, and {{p|Rayquaza}} is formed by the minerals of the ozone layer. Rayquaza proceeds to fly around in the ozone layer, occasionally coming to rest at [[Sky Pillar]]. Kyogre and Groudon then proceed to fill the sea and create land, respectively. A chance meeting turns the two into rivals, and a conflict for dominance over the Pokémon world begins. This battle continues until Rayquaza quells it, causing Kyogre and Groudon to retreat to special caverns, where they {{m|rest}} until the events of [[Generation III]] many years later. The Red and Blue Orbs are created to prevent the reawakening of Kyogre and Groudon, and are left at [[Mt. Pyre]] for safekeeping. At this time, Mew may have been plentiful and lived in large numbers.
[[File:Regis.png|thumb|right|200px| The Legendary Golems: Regice, Registeel and Regirock]]
*Landmasses such as [[Mt. Coronet]] are created, and {{p|Regigigas}} moves the continents, forming the regions, and at some point created {{p|Regice}}, {{p|Regirock}}, and {{p|Registeel}}. The [[Sinnoh]] region is created around Mt. Coronet. During this violent procedure, [[Stark Mountain]] is created due to shifts in the crust of the world and {{p|Heatran}} is formed in a pool of lava. Arceus creates the Adamant, Lustrous and Griseous Orbs before falling into a deep sleep.

===Prehistory===
This information is based primarily on the study of [[Fossil|fossils]] and other archaeological remains. Some of this information is also based on scientific research.

* '''Millions of years before [[Generation I]]:'''
** Earliest known [[Fossil|prehistoric Pokémon]] exist. It is possible that the Mew population may have decreased at this stage, as they slowly gave way to other Pokémon species.
** First humans appear in the Pokémon world.
** At some point after the Iron Age, Regigigas is sealed away in Snowpoint Temple, and Regirock, Regice and Registeel are sealed away at various points across the [[Hoenn]] region.
** At some point 300 million years ago, {{p|Genesect}} was born and was known as the most powerful prehistoric Pokémon in existence.

* '''1500 years before [[Generation I]]:'''
** The earliest known system for writing is developed and used at the [[Ruins of Alph]], [[Tanoby Ruins]], and [[Solaceon Ruins]]. Archaeologists are currently unsure whether the nearly identical {{p|Unown}} preceded or succeeded the writing system, but it is assumed they share some sort of connection.
** The {{p|Farfetch'd}} population decreases due to overhunting.
** {{p|Magikarp}} population mutates and becomes weaker.

===Recent history===
This information is based on historic records.
[[File:Ecruteak City Landscape.png|thumb|right|290px|Ecruteak City]]

* '''Hundreds of years before [[Generation I]]:'''
** The events of [[Pokémon Ranger: Guardian Signs]]'s past.

* '''c. 700 years before [[Generation I]]:'''
** [[Bell Tower]] and [[Burned Tower|Brass Tower]] are constructed in [[Ecruteak City]], and {{p|Lugia}} and {{p|Ho-Oh}} perch at their tops.

* '''c. 500 years before [[Generation I]]:'''
** The first {{p|Spiritomb}} is sealed in the [[Hallowed Tower]] for its unforgivable misdeeds.
** The {{DL|Cianwood City|Cianwood City Pharmacy}} is built.

* '''c. 400 years before [[Generation I]]:'''
** [[Azalea Town]] in Johto is struck by a long-term drought wave. After bringing the rain back once again by {{m|yawn}}ing, {{p|Slowpoke}} gains an honorable position in that town.
** The Pokémon move {{m|Toxic}} is invented by a ninja.

* '''c. 150 years before [[Generation I]]:'''
** [[Burned Tower|Brass Tower]] burns to the ground, killing three Pokémon inside. Lugia flees to the [[Whirl Islands]], Ho-Oh resurrects the three as the [[legendary beasts]] and flies off in search of a {{player|pure-hearted trainer}}.
** The first [[Pokémon League]] competitions take place.

* '''c. 100 years before [[Generation V]]:'''
** {{p|Klink}} begin to appear in [[Chargestone Cave]].

* '''c. 50 years before [[Generation V]]:'''
** {{p|Elgyem}} and {{p|Beheeyem}} appear in the [[Desert Resort]].

* '''1969:'''
** [[Pewter Museum of Science#Exhibits|First humans land on the Moon]].

* '''Less than 10 years before [[Generation I]]:'''
** The ferry [[S.S. Tidal]] is constructed.
** The first Pokémon created by scientific engineering, {{p|Porygon}}, is created.
** Rotom inhabits an [[Old Chateau|abandoned mansion]] in Sinnoh.

===Contemporary history===
From the [[Pokémon games]]:
* '''Some years prior to [[Generation I]]:'''
** A team of scientists discover a new Pokémon (at the time) deep in a jungle in [[Guyana]], South America on July 5. They name the Pokémon {{p|Mew}} on July 10. Mew gives birth, the only known case of a live Pokémon birth (possibly due to the scientists' genetic experimentation), and the scientists name the newborn {{p|Mewtwo}} on February 6. Mewtwo escapes from and destroys [[Cinnabar Island]]'s {{ka|Pokémon Mansion}} on September 1 and then goes to [[Cerulean Cave]]. At some point after Mewtwo's birth, Mew goes to [[Faraway Island]].
** [[Mr. Fuji]], the writer of the [[Pokémon Mansion journals]], goes to Faraway Island and leaves a message on the island's sign on the 6th of September, October, November, or December (depending on which of these months appear in the message) sometime after Mewtwo's escape.
** After leaving his message in Faraway Island, Mr. Fuji goes to [[Lavender Town]] and has lived there ever since.
** [[Saffron Gym|Sabrina's gym]] is declared the official gym of Saffron City after a Pokémon battle between [[Sabrina]] and the leader of the [[Fighting Dojo]].
** Giratina returns to the Pokémon world.
** The [[Battle Frontier]] opens in [[Hoenn]].

* '''One Year prior to [[Generation I]]:'''
** [[Professor Rowan]] goes to [[Kanto]] to research the myths of the region.

* '''[[Generation I]]/{{gen|III}}:'''
** The events of [[Pokémon Red and Blue Versions|Red, Blue]], {{v2|Yellow}}, [[Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen Versions|FireRed, LeafGreen]], {{3v2|Ruby|Sapphire|Emerald}}:'''
*** {{ga|Red}}/{{ga|Leaf}} leaves [[Pallet Town]] on his/her Pokémon journey after their rival, [[Professor Oak]]'s grandson, {{ga|Blue}}. After getting the eight [[badge]]s of [[Kanto]], defeating [[Team Rocket]] along the way, he/she challenges Kanto's [[Elite Four]], then its current Champion, none other than Blue himself. After defeating Blue, Red/Leaf becomes the {{pkmn|Champion}}, then ventures to the [[Sevii Islands]] to eradicate Team Rocket and help [[Celio]] to connect his [[Pokémon Net Center]] to the [[Hoenn]] region.
*** {{ga|Brendan}}/{{ga|May}} leaves [[Littleroot Town]] on a Pokémon journey shortly after moving to the Hoenn region from [[Johto]] by saving the local [[Pokémon Professor]] from an attacking [[wild Pokémon]]. At first, there is a deep-seated rivalry with [[Professor Birch]]'s son/daughter, however, later on, the rivalry is with [[Wally]] instead. After defeating Hoenn's eight [[Gym Leader]]s and, with the help of {{p|Rayquaza}}, calming both {{p|Groudon}} and {{p|Kyogre}}, released from their banishment by [[Team Magma]] and [[Team Aqua]], respectively, he/she challenges and defeats Hoenn's Elite Four and current Champion, becoming the Champion him/herself, much to the astonishment of Birch's child.

* '''Between [[Generation I]]/{{gen|III}} and [[Generation II]]/{{gen|IV}}:'''
** The events of [[Pokémon Colosseum]] and {{ga|Pokémon Ranger}}.
** Eruption of the volcano on [[Cinnabar Island]] causes destruction of many areas on the island.
** {{ga|Blue}} takes the position of Gym Leader in the now empty [[Viridian Gym]].
** {{ga|Red}} leaves to [[Mt. Silver]], training day and night, leaving [[Lance]] to act as Champion, while [[Lorelei]] returns to her home in {{OBP|Four Island|town}}, and [[Agatha]] retires from her position as a member of the [[Kanto]] [[Elite Four]]. This leaves three vacancies on the roster for Elite Four.
** Two of these vacancies are filled by [[Karen]] and [[Will]]. The other is filled by [[Koga]], who abdicates his position as Gym Leader to his daughter, [[Janine]].
** Extensive research confirms the existence of {{t|Steel}} and {{type2|Dark}}s in the region of Kanto. ''(The events of FireRed and LeafGreen retcon this discovery and say that they had always been known as Generation III and I are considered to take place contemporaneously. This is backed up by HeartGold and SoulSilver, when Jasmine's pre-battle speech was changed from the subject that the Steel-type was recently discovered.)''
** [[Baoba]] leaves [[Kanto]] when its {{safari|Kanto}} is closed and begins planning to open a [[Johto Safari Zone|new Safari Zone]] in [[Johto]], as a replacement.
** A [[Pal Park]] is opened in place of the Kanto Safari Zone.
** [[Miracle Cycle]] moves from [[Cerulean City]] to [[Goldenrod City]].
** {{p|Groudon}} and {{p|Kyogre}} retreat to the region of [[Fiore]] to rest after their battle.
** Giratina returns to the [[Distortion World]].
** A new {{gdis|Battle Frontier|IV}} is built in [[Sinnoh]] and [[Johto]].
** [[Blaine]] relocates his gym to the [[Seafoam Islands]] due to his gym on [[Cinnabar Island]] being destroyed by a volcanic eruption.

* '''After [[Generation I]]/{{gen|III}}:'''
** [[Human]]s abandon the PokéPark.
** The Sky Prism breaks.
** The events of [[PokéPark Wii: Pikachu's Adventure]].

* '''Three years after [[Generation I]]/[[Generation III]] ([[Generation II]]/[[Generation IV]]):'''
** The events of [[Pokémon Gold and Silver Versions|Gold, Silver]], {{v2|Crystal}}, [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|Diamond, Pearl]], {{v2|Platinum}}, [[Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions|HeartGold, SoulSilver]], [[Pokémon Ranger: Shadows of Almia]], and [[Pokémon Ranger: Guardian Signs]].
*** {{ga|Ethan}}/{{ga|Kris}}/{{ga|Lyra}} leaves [[New Bark Town]] on an errand for [[Professor Elm]], bonding with his/her [[starter Pokémon]] on the way. A {{ga|Silver|red-haired boy}} steals one of Elm's three Pokémon, and challenges him/her as Ethan/Kris/Lyra's journey across Johto continues. A revived Team Rocket, using plans formulated three years prior, enrages many {{p|Gyarados}}, including a [[Red Gyarados|red one]], at the [[Lake of Rage]] as they proceed to take over the [[Goldenrod Radio Tower]] in a desperate attempt to contact [[Giovanni]]. As they are defeated, the leader vows to never again re-form Team Rocket, and Ethan/Kris/Lyra continues to gather Johto's badges, eventually gaining all eight and traveling to the [[Pokémon League]] at the [[Indigo Plateau]] in Kanto. After defeating the Elite Four and their Champion, Lance, Ethan/Kris/Lyra then heads to the Kanto region to challenge its eight gyms, which have changed from three years prior. After gaining all eight of their badges, for a total of sixteen, [[Professor Oak]] declares him/her ready to travel to Mt. Silver, where he/she meets and defeats {{ga|Red}}.
*** {{ga|Lucas}}/{{ga|Dawn}} and {{ga|Barry}} leave [[Twinleaf Town]] in an attempt to see a Pokémon like the recently reported red Gyarados in the nearest of [[Sinnoh]]'s lakes, [[Lake Verity]]. After being attacked by a wild {{p|Starly}} at the lake, and using one of [[Professor Rowan]]'s Pokémon to fend off the attacker, (apart from in Platinum canon, where they receive their starter Pokémon before actually reaching the lake) their journey begins in earnest, and both Lucas/Dawn and Pearl challenge the Sinnoh region's eight gyms to gain the badges necessary to challenge the {{si|Pokémon League}}. Along the way, however, Lucas/Dawn is brought into many conflicts with [[Team Galactic]], whose leader, [[Cyrus]], wishes to remake the entire universe in his image with the powers of the [[legendary Pokémon]] {{p|Dialga}} and {{p|Palkia}}. Defeating the team and calming {{p|Dialga}}/{{p|Palkia}}/{{P|Giratina}}, Lucas/Dawn challenges Sinnoh's Elite Four and Champion, [[Cynthia]], and becomes Champion him/herself.
** [[Hayley]], a friend of Bebe, opens up a [[My Pokémon Ranch|Pokémon Ranch]].

* '''Approximately two years after [[Generation II]]/[[Generation IV]]:'''
** [[Cipher]] and [[Team Snagem]] return in the [[Orre|Orre Region]], and create [[Shadow Lugia|XD001]], a supposedly unpurifiable [[Shadow Pokémon]], but their plans are thwarted by [[Michael]]. Meanwhile, [[Dr. Kaminko]] and [[Chobin]] invent [[Robo Groudon]] and [[Robo Kyogre]], and [[Professor Krane]] invents the [[Purify Chamber|purification chamber]], where Shadow Pokémon can be purified more easily.

* '''Between [[Generation II]]/{{gen|IV}} and [[Generation V]]:'''
** The {{tc|Team Rocket Grunt}} who stole the Machine Part returns to [[Unova]] pretending to reform Team Rocket there as he [[Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions|previously stated]]. He later falls in love and has a son, moving to [[Icirrus City]].
** [[Caitlin]] leaves the [[Sinnoh]] [[Battle Frontier]] and returns to [[Unova]], becoming an [[Elite Four]] member.

* '''A few years after [[Generation II]]/[[Generation IV]] ([[Generation V]]):'''
** The events of {{2v2|Black|White}}.

[[Category:Pokémon world]]

Kris (game)

2011-06-28T04:11:20Z

Pocketfanmk: Undo revision 1465035 by Sui (talk) that's Marina's art, not exactly Kris.

{{CharInfobox|
color={{crystal color}} |
corecolor={{crystal color light}} |
bordercolor={{crystal color dark}} |
name=Kris |
jname=クリス |
tmname=Kris |
slogan=no |
image=Crystal Kris.png |
size=155px |
caption=Art from {{v2|Crystal}} |
gender=Female |
hometown=[[New Bark Town]] |
region=[[Johto]] |
relatives=Mom |
colors=no |
trainer=yes |
trainerclass=[[Pokémon Trainer]], [[Player character]] |
game=yes |
generation=[[Generation II|II]] |
games={{v2|Crystal}}, [[Pokémon Stadium 2]] |
leader=no |
anime=counterpart |
animecounterpart={{jo|Marina}} |
epnum=The Legend of Thunder! |
epname=The Legend of Thunder! |
manga=counterpart |
mangacounterpart={{adv|Crystal}} |
roundnum=PS117|
roundname=VS. Slugma |
}}

'''Kris''' (Japanese '''クリス''' ''Kris'') is the female counterpart to {{ga|Ethan}} and is the female playable character in {{game|Crystal}}. She is from [[New Bark Town]]. Her rival is {{ga|Silver}}.

==Storyline in the games==
Kris's journey as a [[Pokémon Trainer]] begins when [[Professor Elm]] asks her to run an errand for [[Mr. Pokémon]], who lives north of [[Cherrygrove City]]. Because she may encounter dangerous [[wild Pokémon]] along the way, Elm gives her a choice between three Pokémon to protect her: {{p|Cyndaquil}}, {{p|Totodile}} or {{p|Chikorita}}.

Kris meets a boy watching Elm's Lab from outside. When she tries to talk to him, the boy abruptly shoves her away. The boy, {{ga|Silver}}, will become Kris's rival, analogous to {{ga|Blue}} in [[Generation I]].

Kris continues onward and finally meets Mr. Pokémon and completes her errand. While there she meets [[Professor Oak]] who, upon realizing Kris's bond with her new Pokémon, gives her a [[Pokédex]]. On her way back home, Kris again meets Silver, who has stolen one of Elm's remaining Pokémon. After defeating the boy in battle, she learns his name and relays it to the police in New Bark Town. Professor Elm allows Kris to keep the Pokémon she chose earlier, and encourages her to compete in the [[Johto League]].

From there Kris begins on a Pokémon journey in the [[Johto]] [[region]], facing off against its eight [[Gym Leader]]s, defeating and disbanding the newly reformed [[Team Rocket]], and becoming [[Pokémon Champion|Pokémon League Champion]] by defeating the [[Elite Four]] and its previous Champion, [[Lance]] at the [[Indigo Plateau]]. Along the way she also teaches Silver to respect Pokémon as living creatures and not just as tools for battle. Kris also uncovered the mystery of the [[Bell Tower|Tin Tower]] and its legendary Pokémon, {{p|Entei}}, {{p|Suicune}}, and {{p|Raikou}}.

After being declared the Pokémon League Champion, Kris then takes a short trip on a ship, the [[S.S. Aqua]], from [[Olivine City]] to [[Vermilion City]] in [[Kanto]]. Journeying across that region, she battles against its own set of eight Gym Leaders, including two new faces, [[Janine]], who replaced her father [[Koga]] on his promotion to the Elite Four, and {{ga|Blue}}, who was formerly Pokémon League Champion himself, and replaced [[Giovanni]] after the latter fled. Upon getting permission from [[Professor Oak]] in [[Pallet Town]], Kris heads for [[Mt. Silver]] via {{rt|28|Kanto}}. Her journey comes to a close when she faces the Champion from Pallet Town Pokémon Trainer {{ga|Red}} deep in Mt. Silver Cave, who had been training there since shortly after he became Pokémon League Champion [[Generation I|three years prior]].

==Artwork==
{| align="center" style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{Crystal color dark}}; background: #{{Crystal color}};"
|- align=center
| style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{crystal color dark}}; background: #{{crystal color light}}; width:100px; height:100px"|
[[File:Cryskris.png|100px]]
| style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{crystal color dark}}; background: #{{crystal color light}}; width:100px; height:100px"|
[[File:Game Freak Kris.jpg|200px]]
|- align=center style="font-size: 80%;"
| Walking
| Relaxing
|}

===Sprites===
{| align="center" style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{Crystal color dark}}; background: #{{Crystal color}};"
|- align=center
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{crystal color dark}}; background: #{{crystal color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[File:C Kris.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{crystal color dark}}; background: #{{crystal color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[File:C Kris Back.png]]
|- align=center style="font-size: 80%;"
| Kris sprite from {{color2|000|Pokémon Crystal Version|Crystal}}
| Back sprite from {{color2|000|Pokémon Crystal Version|Crystal}}
|}

==Counterparts==
Kris, like the other in-game characters, has an anime counterpart in {{jo|Marina}}. However, the two are not interchangeable and neither name applies to both, much like the case with {{Ash}} and {{ga|Red}}.

Kris's other counterparts include {{adv|Crystal}} from the [[Pokémon Adventures]] manga and {{OBP|Chris|Golden Boys}} from the [[Pokémon Gold & Silver: The Golden Boys|Golden Boys]] manga.

==Optional names for Kris==
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #88a; border-collapse: collapse;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{crystal color}};"
! Language !! Crystal
|-
|| English
||
* Kris
* Amanda
* Juana
* Jodi
|-
|| Japanese
||
* クリス ''Kris''
* チホ ''Chiho''
* キヨミ ''Kiyomi''
* サトコ ''Satoko''
|-
|| German
||
* Krista
* Sina
* Mandy
* Tabitha
|-
|| French
||
* Christy
* Sophie
* Nicole
* Jeanne
|-
|| Italian
||
* Kristy
* Gaia
* Cinzia
* Luisa
|-
|| Spanish
||
* Cristi
* María
* Susana
* Yolanda
|}

==Trivia==
* Kris is the first playable female character in [[Pokémon games]], a feature included in all traditional Pokémon RPGs since. Despite this, the female choice in {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}} is {{ga|Lyra}}, who was designed from scratch by [[Takao Unno]]. [[File:BetaCrystal.png|thumb|right|Beta Kris]]
* A beta screenshot from {{game|Crystal}} indicates that Kris had a different design at some point in the game's development.
* Kris's alternate Japanese names would later be shared with {{ga|Leaf}}, {{ga|Dawn}}, and {{ga|Lyra}}.
 
{{Player characters}} 
{{Project CharacterDex notice}}
[[Category:Game characters]]
[[Category:Playable characters]]
[[Category:Gold, Silver and Crystal characters]]
[[Category:Female characters]]

[[de:Kris]]
[[fr:Christy]]

Lyra (game)

2011-04-25T09:45:38Z

Pocketfanmk:

{{CharInfobox|
color={{soulsilver color}} |
corecolor={{soulsilver color light}} |
bordercolor={{soulsilver color dark}} |
name=Lyra |
jname=コトネ |
tmname=Kotone |
slogan=no |
image=HeartGold SoulSilver Lyra.png |
size=190px |
caption=Art from [[Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions|HeartGold and SoulSilver]] |
gender=Female |
hometown=[[New Bark Town]] |
region=[[Johto]] |
relatives=[[Mom]] (as player) [[Daycare Couple|Grandparents]], unnamed father (as NPC)|
trainer=yes |
trainerclass=[[Pokémon Trainer]], [[Player character]] |
game=yes |
generation={{gen|IV}} |
games=[[Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions|HeartGold, SoulSilver]] |
leader=no |
anime=no |
anime=counterpart |
animecounterpart={{an|Lyra}} |
epnum=DP143 |
epname=An Egg Scramble! |
manga=counterpart |
mangacounterpart={{adv|Crystal}} |
roundnum=PS117|
roundname=VS. Slugma |
}}
'''Lyra''' (Japanese: '''コトネ''' ''Kotone'') is the female [[player character]] in {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}. In these games, she is the counterpart to {{ga|Ethan}}, taking over the role from {{ga|Kris}} in {{game|Crystal}}. Her hometown is [[New Bark Town]], where she lives with [[Mom|her mother]].

==Storyline in the games==
===When selected as the player character===
Lyra's journey as a {{pkmn|Trainer}} begins when [[Professor Elm]] asks her to run an errand for [[Mr. Pokémon]], who lives north of [[Cherrygrove City]]. Because she may encounter dangerous wild {{obp|Pokémon|species}} along the way, Elm gives her a choice between three Pokémon for protection: {{p|Cyndaquil}}, {{p|Totodile}} or {{p|Chikorita}}.

Lyra meets a strange boy the same age as her watching Elm's Lab from outside. When she tries to talk to him, the boy abruptly shoves her away. The boy, {{ga|Silver}}, will become Lyra's rival, analogous to {{ga|Blue}} in [[Generation I]] and [[Generation III|III]].

Lyra continues onward and finally meets Mr. Pokémon and completes the errand. While there she meets [[Professor Oak]] who, upon realizing Lyra's bond with her new Pokémon, gives her a [[Pokédex]]. On her way back home, Lyra again meets Silver, who has stolen one of Elm's remaining Pokémon. After defeating the boy in battle, she learns his name from his dropped {{ga|Trainer card}} and relays it to the police in New Bark Town. Professor Elm allows Lyra to keep the Pokémon she chose earlier, and encourages her to compete in the [[Johto League]].

From there Lyra begins on a Pokémon journey in the [[Johto]] [[region]], facing off against its eight [[Gym Leader]]s, defeating and disbanding the revived [[Team Rocket]], and becoming [[Pokémon Champion|Pokémon League Champion]] by defeating the [[Elite Four]] and its previous Champion, [[Lance]] at the [[Indigo Plateau]]. Along the way she also teaches Silver to respect Pokémon as living creatures and not just as tools for battle.

After being declared the Pokémon League Champion, Lyra then takes a short trip on a ship, the [[S.S. Aqua]], from [[Olivine City]] to [[Vermilion City]] in [[Kanto]]. Journeying across that region, she battles against its own set of eight Gym Leaders. Upon getting permission from [[Professor Oak]] in [[Pallet Town]], Lyra heads for [[Mt. Silver]] via {{rt|28|Kanto}}. Her journey comes to a close when she faces the Champion from Pallet Town Pokémon Trainer {{ga|Red}} at the summit of Mt. Silver, who had been training there since shortly after he became Pokémon League Champion [[Generation III|three years prior]].

===When not selected as the player character===
[[File:Goldandsoul.png|thumb|left|200px|Lyra speaking with {{ga|Ethan}}]]
If {{ga|Ethan}} is selected to be the player character, Lyra meets him in [[New Bark Town]] at the start of the game. In this particular scene, she is seen with a {{TP|Lyra|Marill}}. Her role in the storyline of HeartGold and SoulSilver is similar to that of {{ga|Lucas}}/{{ga|Dawn}} in {{game2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}} if they are not chosen as the player character, while Ethan takes this place if she is selected as the player. She teaches the player how to catch Pokémon on {{rt|29|Johto}} (replacing the [[Dude]] from {{3v2|Gold|Silver|Crystal}}).

While playing as Ethan, her grandparents run the [[Pokémon Day Care]] on {{rt|34|Johto}}. She also gives the player the [[Fashion Case]] in [[Goldenrod Tunnel]] and the [[Vs. Recorder]] on {{rt|31|Johto}}. Naturally, this role is given to Ethan if she is the player character.

{{-}}

==Pokémon==
Lyra uses this party to show the {{player}} how to catch Pokémon when {{ga|Ethan}} is selected as the player character in {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}.
{{Party|color={{soulsilver color}}|bordercolor={{soulsilver color dark}}
|headcolor={{soulsilver color light}}
|sprite=HGSS Lyra Back.png
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Lyra
|prize=None
|game=HGSS
|location=Johto Route 29
|locationname=Route 29
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon|gen=4|game=HeartGold and SoulSilver|ndex=183|pokemon=Marill|level=5|type1=Water|ability=Unknown
|move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Defense Curl|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status}}}}

===Caught in tutorial===
{{Pokémon/4
|game=HeartGold
|ndex=019
|pokemon=Rattata
|type1=Normal
|ability=Unknown
|level=2
|spritegender=male
|move1=Tail Whip|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Status}}

==Optional names for Lyra==

{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #88a; border-collapse: collapse;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{soulsilver color}};"
! Language || English || Japanese || French || German|| Korean
|-
!
HeartGold 
SoulSilver
||
*''Heart''
*''Soul''
*''Karla''
*''Britney''
*''Kelli''
*''Lindy''
*''Heidi''
*''Miriam''
*''Trudy''
*''Aubrey''
*''Krissa''
*''Naomi''
*''Abby''
*''Dodie''
*''Tamara''
*''Linda''
*''Fiona''
*''Mari''
*''Maggie''
||
*ハート ''Heart''
*ソウル ''Soul''
*キヨミ ''Kiyomi''
*サトコ ''Satoko''
*チホ ''Chiho''
*イオリ ''Iori''
*マキコ ''Makiko''
*ミキコ ''Mikiko''
*ウララ ''Urara''
*ジュンコ ''Junko''
*フウカ ''Fūka''
*リエ ''Rie''
*セツコ ''Setsuko''
*ニッキ ''Nikki''
*マミナ ''Mamina''
*ノリコ ''Noriko''
*ユミカ ''Yumika''
*モモコ ''Momoko''
*ミスズ ''Misuzu''
||
*''Heart''
*''Soul''
*''Becky''
*''Brenda''
*''Carmen''
*''Caro
*''Claire''
*''Coralie''
*''Edith''
*''Hadja''
*''Joanna''
*''Linda''
*''Madge''
*''Nadia''
*''Noémie''
*''Sayaka''
*''Sophie''
*''Suzie''
*''Yuki''
||
*''Heart''
*''Soul''
*''Andrea''
*''Antje''
*''Birgit''
*''Daniela''
*''Diana''
*''Elena''
*''Evelin''
*''Jamie''
*''Klara''
*''Linda''
*''Piera''
*''Sara''
*''Sigrun''
*''Silke''
*''Sina''
*''Suse''
*''Uta''

||
*하트 ''Heart''
*소울 ''Soul''
*꽃님 ''Kkotnim''
*나영 ''Nayeong''
*나정 ''Najeong''
*링링 ''Ringring''
*미영 ''Miyeong''
*사희 ''Sahyi''
*서연 ''Seoyeon''
*설아 ''Seola''
*아라 ''Ara''
*유경 ''Yugyeong''
*윤혜 ''Yunhye''
*은영 ''Eun'yeong''
*인희 ''Inhyi''
*주애 ''Juae''
*지나 ''Jina''
*태희 ''Taehyi''
*해나 ''Haena''
|}

==Sprites==
{| align="center" style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{SoulSilver color dark}}; background: #{{SoulSilver color}};"
|- align=center
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{SoulSilver color dark}}; background: #{{SoulSilver color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[File:HGSS Lyra.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{SoulSilver color dark}}; background: #{{SoulSilver color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[File:HGSS Lyra Back.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{SoulSilver color dark}}; background: #{{SoulSilver color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[File:LyraChallenge.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{SoulSilver color dark}}; background: #{{SoulSilver color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[File:HGSS Lyra Pokéathlon Jersey.png]]
|- align=center style="font-size: 80%;"
| Lyra's sprite from {{color2|000|Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions|HeartGold and SoulSilver}}
| Lyra's backsprite from {{color2|000|Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions|HeartGold and SoulSilver}}
| Lyra's Challenge sprite from {{color2|000|Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions|HeartGold and SoulSilver}}
| Lyra's {{color2|000|Pokéathlon}} sprite from {{color2|000|Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions|HeartGold and SoulSilver}}
|}

==Counterparts==
[[File:Lyra anime.png|thumb|250px|right|Lyra's anime counterpart]]
Shortly after the release of {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}, an {{an|Lyra|anime counterpart}} of Lyra appeared in the episodes from ''[[DP143|An Egg Scramble!]]'' to ''[[DP147|Bagged Then Tagged!]]''. Much as with {{an|May}} and {{an|Dawn}}, she shares both her English and Japanese names with the player character she is based on.

Although Lyra doesn't appear separately in the [[Pokémon Adventures]] manga, {{adv|Crystal}} essentially serves as counterpart by wearing her {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}} outfit in the arc thanks to her mom forcing her to wear it against her will.

==Trivia==
* Some fans assume that {{ga|Kris}} and Lyra are one and the same.[[Takao Unno]] revealed in an interview that he designed Lyra from scratch.
* Lyra shares many of her Japanese default names with {{ga|Leaf}} and {{ga|Dawn}}. She also shares all of {{ga|Kris}}'s default Japanese names.
* Occasionally, Lyra will call and claim that her {{p|Marill}} evolved into {{p|Azumarill}}. However, regardless of this, her Marill is never shown to have evolved and in subsequent calls she still refers to it as a Marill, due to the random chronology of the calls.
* Lyra is 4'11" (1.52 m) tall and weighs 90.4 lbs (41 kg).

==Names==
Like her Japanese name, Lyra's international names are all derived from musical instruments.

{| class="roundy" align="left" style="background: #{{soulsilver color light}}; border: 3px solid #{{soulsilver color}}"
! Language
! Name
! Origin
|- style="background: #FFF"
|Japanese
| コトネ ''Kotone''
| From 琴音 ''kotone'', "sound of [[wp:Koto (musical instrument)|koto]]".
|- style="background: #FFF"
| English
| Lyra
| From ''{{wp|lyre}}''.
|- style="background: #FFF"
| German
| Lyra
| From ''{{wp|lyre}}''.
|-style="background:#FFF"
| French
| Célesta
| From ''{{wp|celesta}}''.
|- style="background: #FFF"
| Italian
| Cetra
| From ''{{wp|cetra}}''.
|- style="background: #FFF"
| Spanish
| Lira
| From ''lira'', {{wp|lyre}}.
|- style="background: #FFF"
| Korean
| 금선 ''Geumseon''
| Means "[[wp:Traditional Korean musical instruments#Plucked|Geum]] string."
|- style="background: #FFF"
| Chinese ({{tt|Mandarin|Taiwan}})
| 琴音 ''Qínyīn''
| From 琴音 ''kotone''. Literally means "sound of {{wp|guqin|qin}}." 琴 (''qín'') is also a general term for {{wp|free reed}}, {{wp|string instrument|string}} and {{wp|keyboard instrument|keyboard instruments}}.
|}

{{-}}
{{Player characters}} 
{{NPC|soulsilver|johto=yes}} 
{{Project CharacterDex notice}}
[[Category:HeartGold and SoulSilver characters]]
[[Category:Female characters]]

[[es:Lira (personaje)]]
[[fr:Célesta (jeux vidéo)]]
[[ja:コトネ (ゲーム)]]

Kris (game)

2011-04-25T09:37:45Z

Pocketfanmk:

{{CharInfobox|
color={{crystal color}} |
corecolor={{crystal color light}} |
bordercolor={{crystal color dark}} |
name=Kris |
jname=クリス |
tmname=Kris |
slogan=no |
image=Crystal Kris.png |
size=155px |
caption=Art from {{v2|Crystal}} |
gender=Female |
hometown=[[New Bark Town]] |
region=[[Johto]] |
relatives=Mom |
colors=no |
trainer=yes |
trainerclass=[[Pokémon Trainer]], [[Player character]] |
game=yes |
generation=[[Generation II|II]] |
games={{v2|Crystal}}, [[Pokémon Stadium 2]] |
leader=no |
anime=counterpart |
animecounterpart={{jo|Marina}} |
epnum=The Legend of Thunder! |
epname=The Legend of Thunder! |
manga=counterpart |
mangacounterpart={{adv|Crystal}} |
roundnum=PS117|
roundname=VS. Slugma |
}}

'''Kris''' (Japanese '''クリス''' ''Kris'') is the female counterpart to {{ga|Ethan}} and is the female playable character in {{game|Crystal}}. She is from [[New Bark Town]]. Her rival is {{ga|Silver}}.

==Storyline in the games==
Kris's journey as a [[Pokémon Trainer]] begins when [[Professor Elm]] asks her to run an errand for [[Mr. Pokémon]], who lives north of [[Cherrygrove City]]. Because she may encounter dangerous [[wild Pokémon]] along the way, Elm gives her a choice between three Pokémon to protect her: {{p|Cyndaquil}}, {{p|Totodile}} or {{p|Chikorita}}.

Kris meets a boy watching Elm's Lab from outside. When she tries to talk to him, the boy abruptly shoves her away. The boy, {{ga|Silver}}, will become Kris's rival, analogous to {{ga|Blue}} in [[Generation I]].

Kris continues onward and finally meets Mr. Pokémon and completes her errand. While there she meets [[Professor Oak]] who, upon realizing Kris's bond with her new Pokémon, gives her a [[Pokédex]]. On her way back home, Kris again meets Silver, who has stolen one of Elm's remaining Pokémon. After defeating the boy in battle, she learns his name and relays it to the police in New Bark Town. Professor Elm allows Kris to keep the Pokémon she chose earlier, and encourages her to compete in the [[Johto League]].

From there Kris begins on a Pokémon journey in the [[Johto]] [[region]], facing off against its eight [[Gym Leader]]s, defeating and disbanding the newly reformed [[Team Rocket]], and becoming [[Pokémon Champion|Pokémon League Champion]] by defeating the [[Elite Four]] and its previous Champion, [[Lance]] at the [[Indigo Plateau]]. Along the way she also teaches Silver to respect Pokémon as living creatures and not just as tools for battle. Kris also uncovered the mystery of the [[Bell Tower|Tin Tower]] and its legendary Pokémon, {{p|Entei}}, {{p|Suicune}}, and {{p|Raikou}}.

After being declared the Pokémon League Champion, Kris then takes a short trip on a ship, the [[S.S. Aqua]], from [[Olivine City]] to [[Vermilion City]] in [[Kanto]]. Journeying across that region, she battles against its own set of eight Gym Leaders, including two new faces, [[Janine]], who replaced her father [[Koga]] on his promotion to the Elite Four, and {{ga|Blue}}, who was formerly Pokémon League Champion himself, and replaced [[Giovanni]] after the latter fled. Upon getting permission from [[Professor Oak]] in [[Pallet Town]], Kris heads for [[Mt. Silver]] via {{rt|28|Kanto}}. Her journey comes to a close when she faces the Champion from Pallet Town Pokémon Trainer {{ga|Red}} deep in Mt. Silver Cave, who had been training there since shortly after he became Pokémon League Champion [[Generation I|three years prior]].

==Artwork==
{| align="center" style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{Crystal color dark}}; background: #{{Crystal color}};"
|- align=center
| style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{crystal color dark}}; background: #{{crystal color light}}; width:100px; height:100px"|
[[File:Cryskris.png|100px]]
|- align=center style="font-size: 80%;"
| Walking
|}

===Sprites===
{| align="center" style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{Crystal color dark}}; background: #{{Crystal color}};"
|- align=center
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{crystal color dark}}; background: #{{crystal color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[File:Kris.gif]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{crystal color dark}}; background: #{{crystal color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[File:C Kris Back.png]]
|- align=center style="font-size: 80%;"
| Kris sprite from {{color2|000|Pokémon Crystal Version|Crystal}}
| Back sprite from {{color2|000|Pokémon Crystal Version|Crystal}}
|}

==Counterparts==
Kris, like the other in-game characters, has an anime counterpart in {{jo|Marina}}. However, the two are not interchangeable and neither name applies to both, much like the case with {{Ash}} and {{ga|Red}}.

Kris's other counterparts include {{adv|Crystal}} from the [[Pokémon Adventures]] manga and {{OBP|Chris|Golden Boys}} from the [[Pokémon Gold & Silver: The Golden Boys|Golden Boys]] manga.

==Optional names for Kris==
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #88a; border-collapse: collapse;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{crystal color}};"
! Language !! Crystal
|-
|| English
||
* Kris
* Amanda
* Juana
* Jodi
|-
|| Japanese
||
* クリス ''Kris''
* チホ ''Chiho''
* キヨミ ''Kiyomi''
* サトコ ''Satoko''
|-
|| German
||
* Krista
* Sina
* Mandy
* Tabitha
|-
|| French
||
* Christy
* Sophie
* Nicole
* Jeanne
|-
|| Italian
||
* Kristy
* Gaia
* Cinzia
* Luisa
|-
|| Spanish
||
* Cristi
* María
* Susana
* Yolanda
|}

==Trivia==
* Kris is the first playable female character in [[Pokémon games]], a feature included in all traditional Pokémon RPGs since. Despite this, the female choice in {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}} is {{ga|Lyra}}, who was designed from scratch by [[Takao Unno]]. [[File:BetaCrystal.png|thumb|right|Beta Kris]]
* A beta screenshot from {{game|Crystal}} indicates that Kris had a different design at some point in the game's development.
* Kris's alternate Japanese names would later be shared with {{ga|Leaf}}, {{ga|Dawn}}, and {{ga|Lyra}}.
 
{{Player characters}} 
{{Project CharacterDex notice}}
[[Category:Game characters]]
[[Category:Playable characters]]
[[Category:Gold, Silver and Crystal characters]]
[[Category:Female characters]]

[[de:Kris]]
[[fr:Christy]]

Red (game)

2011-04-14T00:34:15Z

Pocketfanmk:

{{CharInfobox|
color={{red color}} |
corecolor={{red color light}} |
bordercolor={{red color dark}} |
name=Red |
jname=レッド |
tmname=Red |
slogan=no |
image=FireRed LeafGreen Red.png |
size=155px |
caption=Art from Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen |
gender=Male |
age=11 (RGBY, FR&LG), 13 (GSC, HG&SS) |
hometown=[[Pallet Town]] |
region=[[Kanto]] |
relatives=Mother |
trainer=yes |
colors=no |
trainerclass=[[Pokémon Trainer]], [[Player character]] |
game=yes |
generation={{gen|I}}, {{gen|II}}, {{gen|III}}, {{gen|IV}} |
games={{game3|Red and Blue|Red, Green, Blue|s}} & {{v2|Yellow}} {{game3|Gold and Silver|Gold, Silver |s}} & {{v2|Crystal}} {{game3|FireRed and LeafGreen|FireRed, LeafGreen|s}} {{game3|HeartGold and SoulSilver|HeartGold, SoulSilver|s}} {{jap|Pokémon Stadium}}, {{pkmn|Stadium 2}} |
leader=no |
anime=counterpart |
animecounterpart=[[Ash Ketchum]] |
epnum=EP001|
epname=Pokémon - I Choose You!|
manga=counterpart |
mangacounterpart={{adv|Red}} |
roundnum=PS001|
roundname=A Glimpse of the Glow! |
}}
'''Red''' (Japanese: '''レッド''' ''Red'') is the [[canon]] name of the {{player|player character}} in the [[Generation I]] games {{game4|Red|Green|Blue|Yellow}} and the male choice in their [[Generation III]] remakes {{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}}, where his female counterpart is {{ga|Leaf}}.

Red is known throughout [[Kanto]] and [[Johto]] as the {{pkmn|Champion}} from [[Pallet Town]], as well as for his defeat of [[Team Rocket]] in Kanto during his quest. He is the final opponent in the [[Generation II]] games {{game2|Gold|Silver|Crystal}}, their [[Generation IV]] remakes {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}, and {{g|Stadium 2}}.

==In the games==
[[File:Red Green Red.png|thumb|200px|left|Official art of Red from Generation I]]
Red is introduced as a curious 11-year-old boy from [[Pallet Town]] in the instruction manuals of Red, Green, and Blue, having gained an interest in Pokémon after his best friend, {{ga|Blue}}, stopped playing with him and became a bully. His adventure begins one day when [[Professor Oak]] calls the two to his lab for a choice of a [[starter Pokémon]], the last three Pokémon Oak owns. Blue challenges Red to a battle immediately, to test out his new Pokémon, thinking he will easily beat Red.

After Red has journeyed to [[Viridian City]] to the north and taken [[Oak's Parcel|a package]] back to Oak in Pallet, Oak gives Red and Blue each a [[Pokédex]] with which to record data on all known Pokémon in the Kanto region. From here, Red and Blue journey across Kanto, collecting Pokémon to build up their teams, and defeating each of the [[Gym Leader]]s in turn, with Blue always one step ahead, showing up from time to time to impede Red's progress.
Red also comes across a gang of Pokémon thieves, [[Team Rocket]], several times through his journey, defeating a group of {{tc|Team Rocket Grunt}}s who are trying to steal [[fossil]]s from [[Mt. Moon]], a member who is running the [[Nugget Bridge]] challenge to recruit for the organization on {{rt|24|Kanto}}, and another lone member who has stolen a [[TM]] from a family in [[Cerulean City]]. Eventually, Red uncovers a plot by Team Rocket, infiltrating their [[Rocket Hideout|hideout]] beneath the [[Celadon Game Corner]] and encountering their boss, [[Giovanni]]. Defeating him and ousting Team Rocket from Celadon, Red uses the [[Silph Scope]] that Giovanni leaves behind to battle {{type2|Ghost}} Pokémon and save [[Mr. Fuji]] in the [[Pokémon Tower]] in [[Lavender Town]], who is being held hostage by a trio of Grunts. Red soon journeys into Saffron City in the heart of Kanto to find it overrun by Team Rocket, who is attempting to take the recently-invented [[Master Ball]] from the [[Silph Co.]] President, and defeats Giovanni again, ending the group's plots for the time being.

With seven badges in hand, Red encounters Giovanni for the final time—this time as the [[Gym Leader|Leader]] of the [[Viridian Gym]], his final obstacle before the [[Elite Four]] of the [[Indigo Plateau]]. Red defeats him in battle, earning his eighth and final badge—the {{badge|Earth}}—and causing Giovanni to realize that he has no chance at reviving Team Rocket if he cannot defeat Red. He disbands the organization, promising to go into solo training to better himself.

Making it through {{ka|Victory Road}} and finally to the Indigo Plateau, Red defeats the Elite Four and discovers, to his surprise, that Blue has defeated them before him and is the {{pkmn|Champion}}. Red defeats Blue in the final battle, becoming the Champion himself, but then continues his training, rather than staying at the Indigo Plateau. Encountering an offshoot of Team Rocket in the southern [[Sevii Islands]], Red reveals with his Earth Badge that Giovanni has disbanded the organization, and though defeated the group there intends to revive Team Rocket and bring Giovanni back, having already made plans to force Pokémon to evolve with radio waves. Red continues as a wandering Trainer, eventually making his way to the caves of [[Mt. Silver]], where he trains his Pokémon alone.

Eventually, {{ga|Ethan}}, {{ga|Kris}}, or {{ga|Lyra}} arrives at Mt. Silver and challenges Red, identified only as a [[Pokémon Trainer]]. Red vanishes from Mt. Silver, and returns every time the Elite Four is defeated again by the player of Gold, Silver, Crystal, HeartGold, or SoulSilver.

===Pokémon===
As the player character, Red can have on his team any of the 151 Pokémon available during [[Generation I]]. In [[Generation III]], he can have any of the 386 Pokémon available at that time, though only after the player has obtained the [[National Pokédex]].

When he is encountered as an opponent in [[Generation II]] and [[Generation IV]], Red has a set team, based on Generation I in-game event Pokémon, and has the highest leveled Pokémon yet encountered in the series, with his {{p|Pikachu}} at level 81 in Generation II and at level 88 in Generation IV.

===={{3v2|Gold|Silver|Crystal}}====
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|level=73
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|gen=2
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|pokemon=Snorlax
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|level=75
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|move4=Body Slam
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||pokemon4={{Pokémon
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|move4=SolarBeam
|move4type=Grass}}
|pokemon5={{Pokémon
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|ndex=006
|pokemon=Charizard
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|type1=Fire
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|move3type=Normal
|move4=Fire Spin
|move4type=Fire}}
|pokemon6={{Pokémon
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|ndex=009
|pokemon=Blastoise
|gender=male
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|type1=Water
|move1=Rain Dance
|move1type=Water
|move2=Blizzard
|move2type=Ice
|move3=Surf
|move3type=Water
|move4=Whirlpool
|move4type=Water}}
}}

===={{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}====
{{Party|
|color={{red color}}
|bordercolor={{red color dark}}
|headcolor={{red color light}}
|sprite=RedHGSS.gif
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|name=Red
|game=HGSS
|location=Mt. Silver
|pokemon=6

|pokemon1={{Pokémon
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|game=HeartGold and SoulSilver
|ndex=025
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|gender=male
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|move3type=Normal
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|move4=Thunderbolt
|move4type=Electric
|move4cat=Special}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|ndex=131
|pokemon=Lapras
|gender=male
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|type1=Water
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|ability=Shell Armor
|level=80
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|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|ndex=143
|pokemon=Snorlax
|gender=male
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|type1=Normal
|ability=Thick Fat
|level=82
|move1=Blizzard
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|move3=Crunch
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|move4=Giga Impact
|move4type=Normal
|move4cat=Physical}}
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|ndex=003
|pokemon=Venusaur
|gender=male
|spritegender=male
|game=HeartGold and SoulSilver
|type1=Grass
|type2=Poison
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|level=84
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|move4=Frenzy Plant
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|pokemon5={{Pokémon
|gen=4
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|pokemon6={{Pokémon
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===={{g|Stadium 2}}====
=====Round 1=====
{{Party
|color={{red color}}
|headcolor={{red color light}}
|bordercolor={{red color dark}}
|sprite=S2_Pokémon_Trainer_Red.png‎
|prize=N/A
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Red
|game=Pokémon Stadium 2
|location=Mt. Silver
|pokemon=6
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=2
|ndex=154 f
|pokemon=Meganium
|gender=female
|level=50
|held=Mint Berry
|type1=Grass
|move1=Razor Leaf
|move1type=Grass
|move2=Body Slam
|move2type=Normal
|move3=Giga Drain
|move3type=Grass
|move4=Synthesis
|move4type=Grass}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=2
|ndex=160
|pokemon=Feraligatr
|gender=male
|level=50
|held=Miracleberry
|type1=Water
|move1=Surf
|move1type=Water
|move2=Slash
|move2type=Normal
|move3=Blizzard
|move3type=Ice
|move4=Bite
|move4type=Dark}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=2
|ndex=157
|pokemon=Typhlosion
|gender=male
|level=50
|held=Focus Band
|type1=Fire
|move1=Flamethrower
|move1type=Fire
|move2=Quick Attack
|move2type=Normal
|move3=ThunderPunch
|move3type=Electric
|move4=Dig
|move4type=Ground}}
||pokemon4={{Pokémon
|gen=2
|ndex=135
|pokemon=Jolteon
|gender=female
|level=50
|held=King's Rock
|type1=Electric
|move1=Thunder
|move1type=Electric
|move2=Bite
|move2type=Dark
|move3=Thunder Wave
|move3type=Electric
|move4=Quick Attack
|move4type=Normal}}
|pokemon5={{Pokémon
|gen=2
|ndex=212
|pokemon=Scizor
|gender=male
|level=50
|held=Quick Claw
|type1=Bug
|type2=Steel
|move1=Metal Claw
|move1type=Steel
|move2=Quick Attack
|move2type=Normal
|move3=Slash
|move3type=Normal
|move4=Sleep Talk
|move4type=Normal}}
|pokemon6={{Pokémon
|gen=2
|ndex=128
|pokemon=Tauros
|gender=male
|level=50
|held=Scope Lens
|type1=Normal
|move1=Headbutt
|move1type=Normal
|move2=Earthquake
|move2type=Ground
|move3=Iron Tail
|move3type=Steel
|move4=Hyper Beam
|move4type=Normal}}
}}

=====Round 2=====
{{Party
|color={{red color}}
|headcolor={{red color light}}
|bordercolor={{red color dark}}
|sprite=S2_Pokémon_Trainer_Red.png‎
|prize=N/A
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Red
|game=Pokémon Stadium 2
|location=Mt. Silver
|pokemon=6
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=2
|ndex=243
|pokemon=Raikou
|level=50
|held=Focus Band
|type1=Electric
|move1=Thunderbolt
|move1type=Electric
|move2=Bite
|move2type=Dark
|move3=Iron Tail
|move3type=Steel
|move4=Hidden Power
|move4type=Normal}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=2
|ndex=244
|pokemon=Entei
|level=50
|held=Scope Lens
|type1=Fire
|move1=Fire Blast
|move1type=Fire
|move2=Bite
|move2type=Dark
|move3=Iron Tail
|move3type=Steel
|move4=Hidden Power
|move4type=Normal}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=2
|ndex=245
|pokemon=Suicune
|level=50
|held=BrightPowder
|type1=Water
|move1=Surf
|move1type=Water
|move2=Ice Beam
|move2type=Ice
|move3=Roar
|move3type=Normal
|move4=Hidden Power
|move4type=Normal}}
||pokemon4={{Pokémon
|gen=2
|ndex=149
|pokemon=Dragonite
|gender=male
|level=50
|held=Miracle Berry
|type1=Dragon
|type2=Flying
|move1=Fly
|move1type=Flying
|move2=Body Slam
|move2type=Normal
|move3=Thunder Wave
|move3type=Electric
|move4=Hidden Power
|move4type=Normal}}
|pokemon5={{Pokémon
|gen=2
|ndex=143
|pokemon=Snorlax
|gender=male
|level=50
|held=Quick Claw
|type1=Normal
|move1=Body Slam
|move1type=Normal
|move2=Earthquake
|move2type=Ground
|move3=Shadow Ball
|move3type=Ghost
|move4=Hidden Power
|move4type=Normal}}
|pokemon6={{Pokémon
|gen=2
|ndex=196
|pokemon=Espeon
|gender=male
|level=50
|held=King's Rock
|type1=Psychic
|move1=Psychic
|move1type=Psychic
|move2=Bite
|move2type=Dark
|move3=Reflect
|move3type=Psychic
|move4=Hidden Power
|move4type=Normal}}
}}

==Sprites==
{| align="center" style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{Red color dark}}; background: #{{Red color}};"
|- align=center
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{red color dark}}; background: #{{red color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:Red.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{red color dark}}; background: #{{red color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:RB Red.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{red color dark}}; background: #{{red color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
[[Image:Red_RG2.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{red color dark}}; background: #{{red color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
[[Image:Redback.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{red color dark}}; background: #{{red color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
[[Image:RedRGBwalkdown.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{red color dark}}; background: #{{red color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
[[Image:Y Red.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{red color dark}}; background: #{{red color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
[[Image:Y Red Back.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{red color dark}}; background: #{{red color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
[[Image:RedYwalkdown.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{red color dark}}; background: #{{red color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
[[Image:GSC Trainer Red.png]]
|- align=center style="font-size: 80%;"
| Red sprite from {{color2|000|Generation I}}
| Title screen sprite from {{color2|000|Generation I}} ({{color2|000|Pokémon Red and Blue Versions|Worldwide}}, {{color2|000|Pokémon Blue Version (Japanese)|JP Blue}})
| Title screen sprite from {{color2|000|Generation I}} ({{color2|000|Pokémon Red and Green Versions|JP Red and Green}})
| Red backsprite from {{color2|000|Generation I}}
| Overworld sprite from {{color2|000|Pokémon Red and Green|Red, Green}} and {{color2|000|Pokémon Red and Blue|Blue}}
| Red sprite from {{color2|000|Pokémon Yellow Version|Pokémon Yellow}}
| Red backsprite from {{color2|000|Pokémon Yellow Version|Pokémon Yellow}}
| Overworld sprite from {{color2|000|Pokémon Yellow Version|Pokémon Yellow}}
| Red sprite from {{color2|000|Generation II}}
|- align=center
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{red color dark}}; background: #{{red color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:FRLG Red Intro.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{red color dark}}; background: #{{red color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:FRRed.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{red color dark}}; background: #{{red color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
[[Image:FRLG_Red_Back.png‎]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{red color dark}}; background: #{{red color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
[[Image:RedFRLGwalkdown.png‎]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{red color dark}}; background: #{{red color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
[[Image:PKMN_Trainer_RED.gif]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{red color dark}}; background: #{{red color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
[[Image:Colo Red.png|60px]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{red color dark}}; background: #{{red color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
[[Image:XD Red.png|80px]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{red color dark}}; background: #{{red color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
[[Image:RedHGSS.gif]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{red color dark}}; background: #{{red color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
[[Image:Redwalkdown.png]]
|- align=center style="font-size: 80%;"
| Intro sprite from {{color2|000|Generation III}}
| Red sprite from {{color2|000|Generation III}}
| Red backsprite from {{color2|000|Generation III}}
| Overworld sprite from {{color2|000|Generation III}}
| Red credits sprite from {{color2|000|Generation III}}
| Red model from {{color2|000|Pokémon Colosseum|Colosseum}}
| Red's headshot from {{color2|000|Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness|Pokémon XD}}
| Red sprite from {{color2|000|Generation IV}}
| Overworld sprite from {{color2|000|Generation IV}}
|}
 

==Optional names for Red==
{| class="expandable" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #88a; border-collapse: collapse;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{red color}};"
! Language !! Red !! Green !! Blue !! Yellow !! FireRed/LeafGreen
|-
|| English
||
* Red
* {{Ash}}
* Jack
||
||
* Blue
* Gary
* John
||
* Yellow
* Ash
* Jack
||
{|
|-
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* Red
* Fire
* Green
* Leaf
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* Ash
* Gary
* Geki
* Hiro
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* Jak
* Janne
* Jon
* Jonn
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* Kamon
* Karl
* Kay
* Kaz
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* Kene
* Max
* Oscar
* Ralph
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* Roak
* Toru
* Taylor
* Tosh
|}
|-
|| Japanese
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* レッド ''Red''
* サトシ ''Satoshi''
* ジャック ''Jack''
||
* グリーン ''Green''
* シゲル ''Shigeru''
* ジョン ''John''
||
* ブルー ''Blue''
* ツネカズ ''Tsunekaz''
* ジャン ''Jean''
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* イエロー ''Yellow''
* サトシ ''Satoshi''
* ジャック ''Jack''
||
{|
|-
|
* ファイア ''Fire''
* レッド ''Red''
* リーフ ''Leaf''
* グリーン ''Green''
* カモン ''Kamon''
* ケイ ''Kei''
* ケン ''Ken''
* サトシ ''Satoshi''
|
* サトル ''Satoru''
* シゲキ ''Shigeki''
* シゲル ''Shigeru''
* ジャック ''Jack''
* ジャン ''Jean''
* ジョン ''John''
* タカオ ''Takao''
* タカシ ''Takashi''
|
* タケヒロ ''Takehiro''
* ツネカズ ''Tsunekaz''
* テツオ ''Tetsuo''
* トオル ''Tōru''
* ヒトシ ''Hitoshi''
* ヒロアキ ''Hiroaki''
* ヒロキ ''Hiroki''
* マサオ ''Masao''
|}
|-
|| German
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* Rot
* {{Ash}}
* Jack
||
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* Blau
* Gary
* John
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* Gelb
* Ash
* Jack
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{|
|-
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* Rot
* Feuer
* Grün
* Blatt
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* Bert
* Chris
* Daniel
* Gerd
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* Hans
* Helge
* Jack
* Jan
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* John
* Jon
* Ralf
* Rolf
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* Sven
* Tobi
* Udo
* Uli
* Uwe
|}
|-
|| French
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* Red
* Sacha
* Paul
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* Blue
* Régis
* Jean
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* Yellow
* Sacha
* Paul
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{|
|-
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* Red
* Fire
* Green
* Leaf
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* Ayrton
* Damien
* Davy
* Franck
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* Greg
* Kamel
* Loris
* Mael
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* Mario
* Max
* Polo
* Ralph
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* Tom
* Tosh
* Vince
* Yan
* Zack
|}
|-
|| Italian
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* Rosso
* Ash
* Gigi
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* Blu
* Gary
* Pippo
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* Giallo
* Ash
* Gigi
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|-
|| Spanish
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* Rojo
* Ash
* Jaime
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* Azul
* Gary
* Juan
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* Gualdo
* Ash
* Jaime
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{|
|-
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* Joro
* Guefo
* Verte
* Jaho
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* Álvaro 
* Bosco
* Candel
* Floren
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* Furio
* Juan
* Juanma
* Juno
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* Lerio
* Llamín
* Marino
* Max
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* Morel
* Ner
* Rafa
* Ral
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* Rodi
* Silvio
* Toilo
* Ver
|}
|}

==In the [[Super Smash Bros.]] series==
[[Image:SSBB Pokemon Trainer.png|left|thumb|Red about to switch Pokémon]]
[[Image:Pokemon Trainer Brawl.png|thumb|right|Red in [[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]] with his Pokémon]]
Red's hat appears in [[Super Smash Bros. Melee]] as an alternate outfit worn by {{p|Pikachu}}, possibly in reference to the anime or [[Pokémon Adventures]].

===Super Smash Bros. Brawl===
Red himself appears as a playable character in [[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]], named only as "{{sbw|Pokémon Trainer}}", with a team consisting of {{p|Squirtle}}, {{p|Ivysaur}}, and {{p|Charizard}}. Rather than fighting himself, like the other human characters, Red sends his three Pokémon into battle, switching between them in order. His home stages, like the other Pokémon characters in the game, are {{OBP|Pokémon Stadium|stage}}, {{OBP|Pokémon Stadium 2|stage}}, and {{OBP|Spear Pillar|stage}}. He is voiced by [[Michele Knotz]] in the English version and 半場友恵 ''[[Tomoe Hanba]]'' in the Japanese version.

In terms of gameplay, {{sbw|Squirtle}} is an agile and quick attacker, but it is somewhat weaker than the other two and is much more easily knocked back. {{sbw|Ivysaur}} is a good all-around fighter, but its attacks lack range and it has poor aerial ability. {{sbw|Charizard}} is the most difficult to knock away, and has excellent recovery, but its attacks are slow, albeit powerful.

Red's [[Final Smash]] is Triple Finish, a combination of Squirtle's {{m|Hydro Pump}}, Ivysaur's {{m|SolarBeam}}, and Charizard's {{m|Fire Blast}}.

====Squirtle====
{{SmashMoves|type=Water|game=Brawl|Spe=Water Gun|SpeM=yes|SpeS=Withdraw|SpeSM=yes|SpeU=Waterfall|SpeUM=yes|SpeD=[[Recall|Pokémon Change]]|FS=Triple Finish|FS2=Hydro Pump}}

====Ivysaur====
{{SmashMoves|type=Grass|type2=Poison|game=Brawl|Spe=Bullet Seed|SpeM=yes|SpeS=Razor Leaf|SpeSM=yes|SpeU=Vine Whip|SpeUM=yes|SpeD=[[Recall|Pokémon Change]]|FS=Triple Finish|FS2=SolarBeam}}

====Charizard====
{{SmashMoves|type=Fire|type2=Flying|game=Brawl|Spe=Flamethrower|SpeM=yes|SpeS=Rock Smash|SpeSM=yes|SpeU=Fly|SpeUM=yes|SpeD=[[Recall|Pokémon Change]]|FS=Triple Finish|FS2=Fire Blast}}

====Subspace Emissary====
The Pokémon Trainer is first encountered by {{wb|Lucas}} in the Ruined Zoo. For most of the game, the two are paired together. Pokémon Trainer's mission is to capture Charizard and Ivysaur while Lucas's is to save {{wb|Ness}}. On their way to {{sbw|the Ruins}}, the two are ambushed by {{smw|Wario}}, who is eventually defeated by the two. Later in {{sbw|The Ruined Hall}}, they are attacked by {{sbw|Galleom}}. Once defeated, it sets off a time bomb. Lucas saves Pokémon Trainer and they are then both saved by {{wk|Meta Knight}} who carries them away from the explosion, which sucks up Wario's trophy into Subspace. From then on the two join Meta Knight, {{sbw|Marth}}, and {{sbw|Ike}} on their quest to take down the {{sbw|Subspace Army}}.

====[[wp:Metal Gear|Codec]] information (on {{sbw|Shadow Moses Island}})====
:'''{{sbw|Solid Snake}}:''' ''"[[Pokémon Trainer]]... That's the guy giving [[Move|orders]] behind a Pokémon, right?"''
:'''[[wp:List of recurring Metal Gear characters#Roy Campbell|Roy Campbell]]:''' ''"Right, and this Pokémon Trainer is [[Caught Pokémon|controlling]] {{p|Squirtle}}, {{p|Ivysaur}}, and {{p|Charizard}}. They represent {{t|water}}, {{t|grass}}, and {{t|fire}}, and they're all [[Damage modification|powerful]]."''
:'''Solid Snake:''' ''"So he makes his Pokémon fight while he sits back and watches. Sounds like a good deal if you ask me."''
:'''Roy Campbell:''' ''"It's not like that, Snake. Those Pokémon wouldn't know what to do if the Pokémon Trainer [[Wild Pokémon|wasn't there giving orders]]. In every {{pkmn|battle}}, there's a soldier doing the fighting, and a commander telling him what to do. By working together as a [[Party|team]], they accomplish much more than either could on their own. So let's do this together, partner."''
:'''Solid Snake:''' ''"...Yeah... Whatever you say, Colonel."''

====Trophy information====
=====Pokémon Trainer=====
A person who [[Pokémon Breeder|raises Pokémon]] and [[Pokémon training|trains]] them as [[Party|partners]] in battle. In battle, a Trainer gives [[Move|orders]] to the Pokémon and uses [[item]]s. It's not an exaggeration to say {{pkmn|battle}}s can be won or lost on a Trainer's [[Damage modification#Critical hit|single strategic move]]. Trainers pour their [[Happiness|hearts]] into their Pokémon and share anger, sadness, and joy as they adventure in hopes of becoming [[Pokémon Master]]s.
=====Triple Finish=====
The Final Smash of the Pokémon Trainer. Squirtle, Ivysaur, and Charizard join forces to simultaneously use {{m|Hydro Pump}}, {{m|SolarBeam}}, and {{m|Fire Blast}}. This is the only time all three of them appear on the screen together, so this move boasts the strength of three in one. A window will appear on the screen saying "It's {{DL|Damage modification|super effective}}!" when the attack hits.

==In other games==
Red makes an appearance in both [[Pokémon Colosseum]] and [[Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness]]. While he does not appear in the games' Story Mode, he is playable in the Battle Mode when a FireRed or LeafGreen cartridge is used, with a male player character chosen. He can take on the Mt. Battle's 100-battle challenge, as well as compete in Colosseum battles. Red also made a brief appearence in the debut trailer of [[Pokémon Battle Revolution]], having a [[double battle]] against [[Leaf]], using a {{p|Deoxys}} on its Attack Forme and a {{p|Wailord}}. Despite this, he didn't appear in the final cut of the game.

==In the TFG==
{{TFG ID|Next Quest|Red|42}} appears as a common Trainer figure in the launch set, {{TFG|Next Quest}}, of the [[Pokémon Trading Figure Game]].

==In the anime==
{{main|Ash Ketchum}}
[[File:Ash catches a Pokemon.png|thumb|250px|right|Ash Ketchum, Red's anime counterpart]]
While Red himself does not appear in the anime, his counterpart, introduced in the [[EP001|first episode]], is the anime's main character, Ash Ketchum. Like Red, Ash is from Pallet Town, on a journey to become a Pokémon Master. Unlike Red, Ash's journey did not end with Kanto, and Ash has continued through every other region introduced in the [[main series]] games, as well as the [[Orange Archipelago]] south of Kanto, taking the place of the player characters of Generation II during Johto, and being joined by the anime counterparts of {{ga|May}} and {{ga|Dawn}} during the Hoenn and Sinnoh sagas. Instead of starting with one of the standard three Kanto starters, however, Ash began his journey with a {{AP|Pikachu}}, inspiring {{game|Yellow}}'s creation, as well as causing some to consider Red and Ash to be the same person, most especially due to Red owning {{ga|Red's Pikachu|one}} as well.

==In the manga==
Red, like most player characters, also has counterparts in the various Pokémon manga, with {{adv|Red}} from the [[Pokémon Adventures]] manga, {{Zensho|Satoshi}} from [[Pokémon Zensho]] manga, [[Isamu Akai]] from [[Pokémon Pocket Monsters]] manga, and [[Shū]] from [[Pokémon Get da ze!]] manga being among them.

==Trivia==
* When Red is encountered in [[Mt. Silver]] during [[Generation II]], he has no speech, merely repeating an ellipsis before beginning the battle. This is a reference to the fact that during [[Generation I]] he is a silent protagonist, answering only "yes" or "no" questions. He also remains silent when confronted in [[Generation IV]].
**Ironically, in {{2v2|FireRed|LeafGreen}}, {{ga|Blue}} calls him a ''chatty gossip''. However, this is probably sarcasm.
* Much like there is minimal information on his {{Ash|anime counterpart}}'s father, Red's father is mentioned only in passing when examining a {{wp|Super Nintendo Entertainment System|SNES}} in the [[Celadon Department Store]].
* Until the release of {{game|Platinum}}, Red's team featured the highest-leveled opponent Pokémon a player could face outside of battle arenas such as the [[Pokémon Stadium (English)|Stadium series]] and the [[Battle Frontier]], with his {{ga|Red's Pikachu|Pikachu}} at level 81, beating the wild {{p|Arceus}} found at the [[Hall of Origin]] by one level. In Platinum, however, the {{ga|Barry|rival}}'s team receives a boost in level, putting his [[starter Pokémon]] at level 85, while wild {{p|Magikarp}} can be found in the [[Resort Area]] at up to level 100. Due to {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}} giving Red's team a level boost as well, with his Pikachu topping the list at level 88, Red is again the highest-leveled Trainer opponent (though wild Magikarp still are the highest level opponent Pokémon).
** Although the rival's Pokémon were at a higher level, however, several of Red's Pokémon had higher stats, due to their species' higher [[base stats]], with his Charizard being the strongest (the rival's possible Infernape comes closest, mere points behind).
* In the [[Super Smash Bros.]] series, Pokémon Trainer is the second Pokémon character, after {{p|Pikachu}}, that didn't need to be unlocked.
*In Super Smash Bros. Brawl, somewhat ironically, Charizard is the slowest character, even though the {{p|Charmander}} evolution family has an exceptionally high Speed stat compared to the other two Kanto starters.
* Red's team in Generation II and Generation IV is based heavily on in-game events from [[Generation I]] and {{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}}: {{p|Charizard}}, {{p|Venusaur}}, {{p|Blastoise}}, and {{p|Pikachu}} are the version mascots of the four Generation I games, and are as well available in all iterations of the Kanto storyline; {{p|Espeon}} could have been obtained as an {{p|Eevee}} in [[Celadon City]] (and serves as Blue's starter Pokémon in Pokémon Yellow), {{p|Lapras}} is given away by a [[Silph Co.]] employee shortly before Team Rocket is vanquished there, and two {{p|Snorlax}} are required to be caught or defeated to travel to [[Fuchsia City]] (in [[Generation II]] and {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}, only one Snorlax is found blocking the way in Kanto, indicating a possible connection that Red caught one and defeated the other).
** Likewise, the four version mascots Red owns all know their [[signature move]]s: Venusaur, Charizard, and Blastoise know {{m|Frenzy Plant}}, {{m|Blast Burn}} and {{m|Hydro Cannon}} respectively, while Pikachu knows {{m|Volt Tackle}}.
** Red's Pikachu's four moves are the same four moves that [[Ash's Pikachu]] uses most frequently in the anime: {{m|Volt Tackle}}, {{m|Quick Attack}}, {{m|Iron Tail}}, and {{m|Thunderbolt}}.
** Red's Generation II team was also the same as that of Red in the Pokémon Adventures manga during his venture to Mt. Silver - while he didn't ''own'' Charizard and Blastoise, he borrowed them for a time from {{adv|Blue}} and {{adv|Green}} respectively. However, Red did not own a Lapras as he does in Generation IV.
* An unused default name for Red in the English [[Generation I]] games was "[[Nintendo|NINTEN]]". Conversely, {{ga|Blue}}'s unused default name is "{{wp|Sony|SONY}}". While normally unviewable, changing a few addresses within the game's code can allow for these names to appear as shown [http://acmlm.kafuka.org/board/thread.php?pid=18912#18912 here]. This references the fact that in the years surrounding the releases of the Generation I games, Sony was Nintendo's main competition, and may possibly reference the {{wb|Ninten|main character}} of another Nintendo RPG developed by [[Creatures, Inc.]], {{wb|Mother (video game)|Mother}}.
* Hidden name data for Red in the Japanese [[Generation I]] games include: やまぐち ''Yamaguchi'' for the player and いしはら ''Ishihara'' for the rival in {{game|Red and Green|s}}. Yamaguchi refers to [[Wataru Yamaguchi]], an art director on the original games, while Ishihara refers to [[Tsunekaz Ishihara]], who is now the head of [[The Pokémon Company]]. In [[Pokémon Blue Version (Japanese)|Pokémon Blue]], the player's unused default name is ゲーフリ ''Gēfuri'', an abbreviation of [[Game Freak]]'s Japanese name ゲームフリーク ''Gēmu Furīku''. As for the rival, his name is クリチャ ''Kuricha'', in what it seems a reference to [[Creatures, Inc.]] As for {{game|Yellow}}, it preserved the rival's name from Pokémon Blue; however, for an unknown reason, the player's name was subtly altered by gaining an extra digit, becoming "ゲーフリ１". For more information, see [http://mltreq.alwaysdata.net/i/default-names this article].
* The majority of his Japanese default names from {{2v2|FireRed|LeafGreen}} are shared with {{ga|Ethan}} and {{ga|Lucas}}. The same holds true for their {{ga|Leaf|respective}} {{ga|Lyra|female}} {{ga|Dawn|counterparts}}.
* All of the three Kanto starter Pokémon used in his [[Generation II]] battle have the moves that appeared on their {{TCG|Base Set}} cards.
* In HeartGold and SoulSilver, apart from his Venusaur and Blastoise being fully evolved, Red's team is identical to that of Ash Ketchum throughout most of the [[Pokémon: The Adventures in the Orange Islands|Orange Islands]] anime arc ([[Ash's Bulbasaur]] and {{AP|Squirtle}} were at the time, and still are presently, in their base forms).
* Meganium and Jolteon are the only two of Red's female Pokemon in [[Pokémon Stadium 2]].
* Red's Generation II sprite is a colorized and mirrored version of his sprite from {{game|Yellow}}. The same thing occurred to his rival, {{ga|Blue}}.
* Red, along with Blue and Prof. Oak, appears in all generations so far either as an NPC or as a playable character, except for [[Generation V]].

===In other languages===
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Leaf (game)

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Pocketfanmk:

{{CharInfobox|
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corecolor={{leafgreen color light}} |
bordercolor={{leafgreen color dark}} |
name=Leaf |
jname=リーフ |
tmname=Leaf |
slogan=no |
image=FireRed LeafGreen Leaf.png |
size=140px |
caption=Art from {{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}} |
gender=Female |
Age=11 |
hometown=[[Pallet Town]] |
region=[[Kanto]] |
relatives=Mother|
colors=no |
trainer=yes |
trainerclass=[[Pokémon Trainer]], [[Player character]] |
game=yes |
generation={{gen|III}} |
games={{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s|FireRed, LeafGreen}} |
leader=no |
anime=no |
manga=counterpart |
mangacounterpart={{OBP|Blue|Pokémon Ruby-Sapphire}}, {{adv|Green}} |
roundnum=PS015 |
roundname=Wartortle Wars |
}}
'''Leaf''' (Japanese: '''リーフ''' ''Leaf'') is the female counterpart to {{ga|Red}} and is the main [[player character|playable character]] in {{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}}. She lives in [[Pallet Town]], across from her upcoming rival in [[Pokémon training]], {{ga|Blue}}. Leaf is presumably 11 years old, the same age as her male counterpart.

==Story==
===In FireRed and LeafGreen===
====When selected as the player character====
Leaf is a curious girl from Pallet Town. The Generation I instruction booklets explain that Red became interested in Pokémon after his best friend, Blue, stopped playing with him and became a bully, so presumably this is true for Leaf, Red's female counterpart, as well. Her adventure begins one day when [[Professor Oak]] calls her to his lab and gives her a [[Starter Pokémon|choice of Pokémon]]. Blue challenges Leaf to a [[Pokémon battle]] as soon as they get their Pokémon. A bit later, Professor Oak calls the two back, gives each of them a [[Pokédex]], and sends them on a journey to fulfill their dream of capturing every type of Pokémon.

Leaf travels all over Kanto, filling in the [[Pokédex]] and defeating [[Gym Leader]]s. Her [[rival]] Blue constantly stays one step ahead, and shows up quite a few times to impede her progress. When Leaf eventually reaches the [[Elite Four]], she finds that Blue has beaten her to a milestone yet again and has become the [[Indigo League]] {{pkmn|Champion}}. Leaf defeats Blue in the final battle, and becomes the Champion herself.

Leaf's main conflict in the games, aside from Blue, is [[Team Rocket]], an infamous group of Pokémon thieves. Leaf clashes with [[Team Rocket]] many times in her quest. She defeats a group of grunts at [[Mt. Moon]] who are attempting to steal rare Pokémon [[fossil]]s, and defeats another group ahead at a bridge in [[Cerulean City]]. Leaf protects the [[Pokémon Tower]] and [[Mr. Fuji]] in [[Lavender Town]] and destroys their hold on the [[Celadon Game Corner|Game Corner]]. After she foils their plot to take over [[Silph Co.]], Leaf encounters [[Giovanni]], the leader of Team Rocket, as the final Gym Leader in [[Viridian City]]. Upon defeating him, Leaf stops the group's world domination plots once and for all, though a few remaining grunts, many who appeared and were defeated by Leaf on [[Chrono Island]] in [[Generation III]], would band together in [[Johto]] to try and revive the group.

====When not selected as the player character====
When not selected as the player character, Leaf does not appear in the game. Leaf's actions in this case are currently unknown.

===In other games===
Leaf makes a cameo appearance in both [[Pokémon Colosseum]] and [[Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness]]. While she does not appear in the games' Story Mode, she is playable in the Battle Mode when a FireRed or LeafGreen cartridge is used with her as the player character. She can take on the [[Mt. Battle]]'s 100-battle challenge, as well as compete in Colosseum battles.

==Optional names for Leaf==
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|- style="background: #{{leafgreen color}};"
! Language || English || Japanese || German || French || Italian || Spanish
|-
! FireRed/LeafGreen
||
* Red
* Fire
* Green
* Leaf
* Amanda
* Cassie
* Hillary
* Jodi
* June
* Makey
* Michi
* Omi
* Paula
* Rey
* Seda
* Kiko
* Mina
* Norie
* Sai
* Momo
* Suzi
||
* レッド ''Red''
* ファイア ''Fire''
* グリーン ''Green''
* リーフ ''Leaf''
* アヤコ ''Ayako''
* キヨミ ''Kiyomi''
* キョウコ ''Kyōko''
* サトコ ''Satoko''
* ジュンコ ''Junko''
* セツコ ''Setsuko''
* チホ ''Chiho''
* ノリエ ''Norie''
* ヒサエ ''Hisae''
* マキコ ''Makiko''
* マミナ ''Mamina''
* ミキコ ''Mikiko''
* ミスズ ''Misuzu''
* ミチコ ''Michiko''
* モモコ ''Momoko''
* ユキコ ''Yukiko''
* リエ ''Rie''
||
* Rot
* Feuer
* Grün
* Blatt
* Andrea
* Birgit
* Daniela
* Diana
* Elena
* Eva
* Jamie
* Katrin
* Mandy
* Martina
* Pia
* Silke
* Simone
* Sina
* Susi
* Tanja
* Ute
||
* Red
* Fire
* Green
* Leaf
* Audrey
* Carmen
* Caro
* Edith
* Emma
* Flo
* Helene
* Ingrid
* Joanna
* Linda
* Lucie
* Marion
* Nadia
* Nolween
* Pauline
* Sayaka
* Yuki
||
||
* Joro
* Guefo
* Verte
* Jaho
* Bruna
* Casilda
* Cira
* Claudia
* Luna
* Matilde
* María
* Marina
* Mena
* Mina
* Mirta
* Nena
* Nuria
* Rita
* Salia
* Selena
* Susa
|}

==Sprites==
{| align="center" style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{LeafGreen color dark}}; background: #{{LeafGreen color}};"
|- align=center
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{LeafGreen color dark}}; background: #{{LeafGreen color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:FRLG Leaf.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{LeafGreen color dark}}; background: #{{LeafGreen color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:FRLG_Leaf_Back.png‎]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{LeafGreen color dark}}; background: #{{LeafGreen color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:FRLG Leaf Intro.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{LeafGreen color dark}}; background: #{{LeafGreen color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:LeafFRLGwalkdown.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{LeafGreen color dark}}; background: #{{LeafGreen color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:FRLG Leaf.gif]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{LeafGreen color dark}}; background: #{{LeafGreen color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
[[Image:Colo Leaf.png|60px]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{LeafGreen color dark}}; background: #{{LeafGreen color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
[[Image:XD Leaf.png|80px]]
|- align=center style="font-size: 80%;"
| Leaf sprite from {{color2|000|Generation III}}
| Back sprite from {{color2|000|Generation III}}
| Intro sprite from {{color2|000|Generation III}}
| Overworld sprite from {{color2|000|Generation III}}
| Credits sprite from {{color2|000|Generation III}}
| Leaf model from {{color2|000|Pokémon Colosseum|Colosseum}}
| Leaf headshot from {{color2|000|Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness|Pokémon XD}}
|}

==Counterparts==
Though no counterpart to Leaf has appeared in the [[Pokémon anime]], she has a few counterparts appearing in various [[Pokémon manga]].

{{adv|Green}} from the [[Pokémon Adventures]] manga, who appears to be based on an [[Pokémon Red and Green beta#Female player character|unused female player character]] from {{game|Red and Green|s}}, is widely considered to be Leaf's counterpart in the manga. This is supported by the fact that Green's outfit changes to match Leaf's in the {{chap|FireRed & LeafGreen}}.

Leaf also has a counterpart in the [[Pokémon Ruby-Sapphire]] manga series named {{OBP|Blue|Pokémon Ruby-Sapphire}}.

==Trivia==
* Although her official debut was in FireRed/LeafGreen, Leaf's artwork was in Pokémon Colosseum, which came out a full two months before the aforementioned remakes.
* In [[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]], {{p|Jigglypuff}} can wear Leaf's hat as an alternate costume. This is similar to how {{p|Pikachu}} wears {{ga|Red}}'s hat as an alternate costume and coincidentally, Leaf's [[Pokémon Adventures]] counterpart is Green, whose main Pokémon is a Jigglypuff and Red's Pokémon Adventures counterpart's main Pokémon is a Pikachu.
* Leaf is the only {{player}} character who has not had an appearance in the anime, either through a counterpart (as is the case with {{jo|Jimmy}}/{{ga|Ethan}} and {{Ash}}/{{ga|Red}}) or a movie cameo (as has happened to {{ga|Brendan}} and {{ga|Lucas}}).
** Alongside {{ga|Kris}}, Leaf is also the only player character who does not appear even if her alternate-gender counterpart has been selected as the player.
* Leaf's FireRed and LeafGreen sprite shows her with blue eyes although every other sprite, and the official artwork, shows her with brown eyes.
* The majority of her Japanese default names are shared with {{ga|Dawn}} and {{ga|Lyra}}. She also shares all of {{ga|Kris}}'s alternate Japanese names.
* Leaf is the only female player character whose default name is not a common given name. {{ga|Kris}}, {{ga|May}}, {{ga|Dawn}}, {{ga|Lyra}}, and {{ga|Hilda}} are all somewhat common given names.
** Leaf's name was found in FireRed and LeafGreen's data as a dummied-out opponent Trainer, alongside Red (whose name is Red as it was before).
* One of her default names in Japanese is "Satoko," the [[Ashley|pseudonym]] used by {{Ash}} in ''[[EP026|Pokémon Scent-sation!]]'' to get into Erika's Gym.
* Despite popular belief that Leaf would reappear as an opponent, much like {{ga|Red|her male counterpart}} and {{ga|Blue|her rival}}, in {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}} (due to them being sequels to {{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}}, where she was introduced), she does not appear within the games, nor is she referred to.
* Though she is neither playable nor an opponent in the handheld [[Generation IV]] games, Leaf made a brief cameo battling against {{ga|Red}} in an early trailer for [[Pokémon Battle Revolution]] on the Wii.
* Though "Leaf" is by far the name she is most commonly known by, she is also sometimes referred to as '''Fuguri''' (フグリ) in the Japanese fandom. The name is derived from {{tt|リー'''フグリ'''ーン|LeafGreen}} (rī'''fugurī'''n).

{{-}}
{{Player characters}}
{{-}}
{{Project CharacterDex notice}}
[[Category:FireRed and LeafGreen characters]]
[[Category:Female characters]]

[[de:Grün (Spielcharakter)]]
[[fr:Leaf]]

Hilbert (game)

2011-03-03T00:10:37Z

Pocketfanmk:

{{incomplete}}
{{CharInfobox|
color={{black color}} |
corecolor={{black color light}} |
bordercolor={{black color dark}} |
name=Hilbert |
jname=トウヤ |
tmname=Tōya |
slogan=no |
image=Black White Touya.png |
size=185px |
caption=Art from Black and White |
gender=Male |
colors=yes|
hair=Brown|
eyes=Brown|
hometown=[[Nuvema Town]] |
region=[[Unova]] |
relatives=Unknown |
trainer=yes |
trainerclass=[[Pokémon Trainer]], [[Player character]] |
game=yes |
generation={{gen|V}} |
games=[[Pokémon Black and White Versions|Black, White]] |
leader=no |
anime=no |
manga=counterpart |
mangacounterpart=[[Monta]], {{adv|Black}}, {{OBP|Touya|MWL}}|
roundnum=PMBW01|
}}
'''Hilbert''' (Japanese: '''トウヤ''' ''Tōya'') is the male [[player character]] in {{game|Black and White|s}}. He is the male counterpart to {{ga|Hilda}}.

==In the games==
Hilbert is a boy who lives in [[Nuvema Town]], as do his childhood friends, [[Cheren]] and {{ga|Bianca}}. If chosen as the player, he will receive a [[starter Pokémon]] and a [[Pokédex]] from [[Professor Juniper]]. After setting off on his [[Pokémon journey]] at the same time as Cheren and Bianca, Hilbert will at some point be asked by [[Fennel]] to do some sort of quest; in return for its completion, Hilbert will receive a [[C-Gear]].

As well as encountering and battling his childhood friends at various points during his journey, Hilbert will also meet a man known as [[N]], who wishes to create separate worlds for humans and Pokémon. In order to achieve his goals, he and Hilbert will battle several times during the course of the game. Hilbert also battles [[Team Plasma]] at various stages of his journey.

If not chosen as the player (that is, the female character was chosen as the player), he appears as the player's partner in the [[Battle Subway]] when choosing to ride the Multi-Train.

==Sprites==
{| align="center" style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{black color dark}}; background: #{{black color}};"
|- align=center
|style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{black color dark}}; background: #{{black color light}}; width:80px"| [[File:BW Black.png]]
|style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{black color dark}}; background: #{{black color light}}; width:80px"| [[File:Spr BW Black 2.png]]
|style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{black color dark}}; background: #{{black color light}}; width:80px"| [[File:BW Black Back.png]]

|style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{black color dark}}; background: #{{black color light}}; width:80px"| [[File:BlackChallenge.png]]
|- align=center style="font-size: 80%"
| {{color|FFFFFF|Hilbert's sprite from}} {{color2|fff|Pokémon Black and White Versions|Black and White}}
| {{color|FFFFFF|Hilbert's}} {{color2|FFFFFF|Wonder Launcher}} {{color|FFFFFF|sprite from}} {{color2|FFFFFF|Pokémon Black and White Versions|Black and White}}
| {{color|FFFFFF|Hilbert's back sprite from}} {{color2|fff|Pokémon Black and White Versions|Black and White}}

| {{color|fff|Hilbert's challenge sprite from}} {{color2|fff|Pokémon Black and White Versions|Black and White}}
|}

==Counterparts==
Hilbert has three counterparts appearing in various {{pkmn|manga}}: [[Monta]] from the [[Pokémon Master Black & White]] manga, {{Adv|Black}} from the [[Pokémon Adventures]] manga, and {{OBP|Touya|MWL}} from the [[Pocket Monsters BW: Meetings with the Legends]] manga.

==Trivia==
* Prior to the release of {{2v2|Black|White}}, pre-release media and most fans referred to Hilbert as "Black".
** English pre-release media referred to Hilbert as "Blair" and "Kuro".
* From a bird's eye view, Hilbert's hat resembles a [[Poké Ball]].

===Names===
{| class="roundy" align="left" style="background: #{{black color light}}; border: 3px solid #{{black color}}"
|- align=center
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Language
! Name
! style="{{roundytr|5px}}" | Origin
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Japanese
| トウヤ ''Tōya''
| Possibly from 透 ''tō'', "transparent."
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| English
| Hilbert
| From the Germanic element ''hild'', "battle."
|- style="background:#FFF;"

|}

{{Player characters}}
{{NPC|black|unova=yes}} 
{{Project CharacterDex notice}}

[[Category:Game characters]]
[[Category:Black and White characters]]
[[Category:Playable characters]]
[[Category:Male characters]]

[[es:Negro (personaje)]]

[[de:Kuro]]
[[fr:Touya]]

Hilda (game)

2011-03-02T23:50:29Z

Pocketfanmk:

{{incomplete}}
{{CharInfobox|
color={{white color}} |
corecolor={{white color light}} |
bordercolor={{white color dark}} |
name=Hilda |
jname=トウコ |
tmname=Tōko |
slogan=no |
image=Black White Touko.png |
size=185px |
caption=Art from Black and White |
gender=Female |
colors=yes|
hair=Brown|
eyes=Blue|
hometown=[[Nuvema Town]] |
region=[[Unova]] |
relatives=Unknown |
trainer=yes |
trainerclass=[[Pokémon Trainer]], [[Player character]] |
game=yes |
generation={{gen|V}} |
games=[[Pokémon Black and White Versions|Black, White]] |
leader=no |
anime=no |
manga=counterpart |
mangacounterpart={{adv|White}}|
roundnum=Black & White chapter (Adventures) |
roundname=Black & White chapter}}
'''Hilda''' (Japanese: '''トウコ''' ''Tōko'') is the female [[player character]] in {{game|Black and White|s}}. She is the female counterpart to {{ga|Hilbert}}.

==In the games==
Hilda is a girl who lives in [[Nuvema Town]], as do her childhood friends, [[Cheren]] and {{ga|Bianca}}. If chosen as the player, she will receive a [[starter Pokémon]] and a [[Pokédex]] from [[Professor Juniper]]. After setting off on her [[Pokémon journey]] at the same time as Cheren and Bianca, Hilda will at some point be asked by [[Fennel]] to do some sort of quest; in return for its completion, Hilda will receive a [[C-Gear]].

As well as encountering and battling her childhood friends at various points during her journey, Hilda will also meet a man known as [[N]], who wishes to create separate worlds for humans and Pokémon. In order to achieve his goals, he and Hilda will battle several times during the course of the game. Hilda will also battle [[Team Plasma]] at various stages of her journey.

If not chosen as the player (that is, the male character was chosen as the player), she appears as the player's partner in the [[Battle Subway]] when choosing to ride the Multi-Train.

==Sprites==
{| align="center" style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{white color dark}}; background: #{{white color}};"
|- align=center
|style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{white color dark}}; background: #{{white color light}}; width:80px"| [[File:BW White.png]]
|style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{white color dark}}; background: #{{white color light}}; width:80px"| [[File:Spr BW White 2.png]]
|style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{white color dark}}; background: #{{white color light}}; width:80px"| [[File:BW White Back.png]]

|style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{white color dark}}; background: #{{white color light}}; width:80px"| [[File:WhiteChallenge.png]]
|style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{white color dark}}; background: #{{white color light}}; width:80px"| [[File:Toukowalkdown.png]]
|- align=center style="font-size: 80%;"
| Sprite from {{color2|000|Pokémon Black and White Versions|Black and White}}
| Sprite from {{color2|000|Pokémon Black and White Versions|Black and White}} (with the {{color2|000|Wonder Launcher}})
| Back sprite from {{color2|000|Pokémon Black and White Versions|Black and White}}

| Challenge sprite from {{color2|000|Pokémon Black and White Versions|Black and White}}
| Overworld sprite from {{color2|000|Pokémon Black and White Versions|Black and White}}
|}

==Counterparts==
Hilda has a counterpart in the [[Pokémon Adventures]] manga named {{adv|White}}, who has recently debuted in the {{chap|Black & White}}. She owns a company called the BW Agency, and gets the idea to hire {{adv|Black}} upon seeing the bond the latter's {{p|Tepig}} had with a female of its species.
==Trivia==
*Prior to the release of {{2v2|Black|White}}, pre-release media and most fans referred to Hilda as "White".
**English pre-release media referred to Hilda as "Whitlea" and "Shiro."

===Names===
{| class="roundy" align="left" style="background: #{{white color}}; border: 3px solid #{{white color dark}}"
|- align=center
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Language
! Name
! style="{{roundytr|5px}}" | Origin
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Japanese
| トウコ ''Tōko''
| Possibly from 透 ''tō'', "transparent."
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| English
| Hilda
| From the Germanic element ''hild'', "battle."
|- style="background:#FFF;"

|}

{{Player characters}}
{{NPC|white|unova=yes}} 
{{Project CharacterDex notice}}

[[Category:Black and White characters]]
[[Category:Female characters]]

[[de:Shiro]]
[[fr:Touko]]

Leaf (game)

2011-03-02T05:10:51Z

Pocketfanmk: Undo revision 1374544 by Bobosmith01 (talk)

{{CharInfobox|
color={{leafgreen color}} |
corecolor={{leafgreen color light}} |
bordercolor={{leafgreen color dark}} |
name=Leaf |
jname=リーフ |
tmname=Leaf |
slogan=no |
image=FireRed LeafGreen Leaf.png |
size=140px |
caption=Art from {{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}} |
gender=Female |
Age=11 |
hometown=[[Pallet Town]] |
region=[[Kanto]] |
relatives=Mother|
colors=no |
trainer=yes |
trainerclass=[[Pokémon Trainer]], [[Player character]] |
game=yes |
generation={{gen|III}} |
games={{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s|FireRed, LeafGreen}} |
leader=no |
anime=no |
manga=counterpart |
mangacounterpart={{OBP|Blue|Pokémon Ruby-Sapphire}}, {{adv|Green}} |
roundnum=PS015 |
roundname=Wartortle Wars |
}}
'''Leaf''' (Japanese: '''リーフ''' ''Leaf'') is the female counterpart to {{ga|Red}} and is the main [[player character|playable character]] in {{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}}. She lives in [[Pallet Town]], across from her upcoming rival in [[Pokémon training]], {{ga|Blue}}. Leaf is presumably 11 years old, the same age as her male counterpart.

==Story==
===In FireRed and LeafGreen===
====When selected as the player character====
Leaf is a curious girl from Pallet Town. The Generation I instruction booklets explain that Red became interested in Pokémon after his best friend, Blue, stopped playing with him and became a bully, so presumably this is true for Leaf, Red's female counterpart, as well. Her adventure begins one day when [[Professor Oak]] calls her to his lab and gives her a [[Starter Pokémon|choice of Pokémon]]. Blue challenges Leaf to a [[Pokémon battle]] as soon as they get their Pokémon. A bit later, Professor Oak calls the two back, gives each of them a [[Pokédex]], and sends them on a journey to fulfill their dream of capturing every type of Pokémon.

Leaf travels all over Kanto, filling in the [[Pokédex]] and defeating [[Gym Leader]]s. Her [[rival]] Blue constantly stays one step ahead, and shows up quite a few times to impede her progress. When Leaf eventually reaches the [[Elite Four]], she finds that Blue has beaten her to a milestone yet again and has become the [[Indigo League]] {{pkmn|Champion}}. Leaf defeats Blue in the final battle, and becomes the Champion herself.

Leaf's main conflict in the games, aside from Blue, is [[Team Rocket]], an infamous group of Pokémon thieves. Leaf clashes with [[Team Rocket]] many times in her quest. She defeats a group of grunts at [[Mt. Moon]] who are attempting to steal rare Pokémon [[fossil]]s, and defeats another group ahead at a bridge in [[Cerulean City]]. Leaf protects the [[Pokémon Tower]] and [[Mr. Fuji]] in [[Lavender Town]] and destroys their hold on the [[Celadon Game Corner|Game Corner]]. After she foils their plot to take over [[Silph Co.]], Leaf encounters [[Giovanni]], the leader of Team Rocket, as the final Gym Leader in [[Viridian City]]. Upon defeating him, Leaf stops the group's world domination plots once and for all, though a few remaining grunts, many who appeared and were defeated by Leaf on [[Chrono Island]] in [[Generation III]], would band together in [[Johto]] to try and revive the group.

====When not selected as the player character====
When not selected as the player character, Leaf does not appear in the game. Leaf's actions in this case are currently unknown.

===In other games===
Leaf makes a cameo appearance in both [[Pokémon Colosseum]] and [[Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness]]. While she does not appear in the games' Story Mode, she is playable in the Battle Mode when a FireRed or LeafGreen cartridge is used with her as the player character. She can take on the [[Mt. Battle]]'s 100-battle challenge, as well as compete in Colosseum battles.

==Optional names for Leaf==
{|class="expandable" border="1" style="border: 1px solid #88a; border-collapse: collapse;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{leafgreen color}};"
! Language || English || Japanese || German || French || Italian || Spanish
|-
! FireRed/LeafGreen
||
* Red
* Fire
* Green
* Leaf
* Amanda
* Cassie
* Hillary
* Jodi
* June
* Makey
* Michi
* Omi
* Paula
* Rey
* Seda
* Kiko
* Mina
* Norie
* Sai
* Momo
* Suzi
||
* レッド ''Red''
* ファイア ''Fire''
* グリーン ''Green''
* リーフ ''Leaf''
* アヤコ ''Ayako''
* キヨミ ''Kiyomi''
* キョウコ ''Kyōko''
* サトコ ''Satoko''
* ジュンコ ''Junko''
* セツコ ''Setsuko''
* チホ ''Chiho''
* ノリエ ''Norie''
* ヒサエ ''Hisae''
* マキコ ''Makiko''
* マミナ ''Mamina''
* ミキコ ''Mikiko''
* ミスズ ''Misuzu''
* ミチコ ''Michiko''
* モモコ ''Momoko''
* ユキコ ''Yukiko''
* リエ ''Rie''
||
* Rot
* Feuer
* Grün
* Blatt
* Andrea
* Birgit
* Daniela
* Diana
* Elena
* Eva
* Jamie
* Katrin
* Mandy
* Martina
* Pia
* Silke
* Simone
* Sina
* Susi
* Tanja
* Ute
||
* Red
* Fire
* Green
* Leaf
* Audrey
* Carmen
* Caro
* Edith
* Emma
* Flo
* Helene
* Ingrid
* Joanna
* Linda
* Lucie
* Marion
* Nadia
* Nolween
* Pauline
* Sayaka
* Yuki
||
||
* Joro
* Guefo
* Verte
* Jaho
* Bruna
* Casilda
* Cira
* Claudia
* Luna
* Matilde
* María
* Marina
* Mena
* Mina
* Mirta
* Nena
* Nuria
* Rita
* Salia
* Selena
* Susa
|}

==Sprites==
{| align="center" style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{LeafGreen color dark}}; background: #{{LeafGreen color}};"
|- align=center
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{LeafGreen color dark}}; background: #{{LeafGreen color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:FRLG Leaf.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{LeafGreen color dark}}; background: #{{LeafGreen color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:FRLG_Leaf_Back.png‎]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{LeafGreen color dark}}; background: #{{LeafGreen color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:FRLG Leaf Intro.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{LeafGreen color dark}}; background: #{{LeafGreen color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:LeafFRLGwalkdown.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{LeafGreen color dark}}; background: #{{LeafGreen color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:FRLG Leaf.gif]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{LeafGreen color dark}}; background: #{{LeafGreen color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
[[Image:Colo Leaf.png|60px]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{LeafGreen color dark}}; background: #{{LeafGreen color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"|
[[Image:XD Leaf.png|80px]]
|- align=center style="font-size: 80%;"
| Leaf sprite from {{color2|000|Generation III}}
| Back sprite from {{color2|000|Generation III}}
| Intro sprite from {{color2|000|Generation III}}
| Overworld sprite from {{color2|000|Generation III}}
| Credits sprite from {{color2|000|Generation III}}
| Leaf model from {{color2|000|Pokémon Colosseum|Colosseum}}
| Leaf headshot from {{color2|000|Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness|Pokémon XD}}
|}

==Counterparts==
Though no counterpart to Leaf has appeared in the [[Pokémon anime]], she has a few counterparts appearing in various [[Pokémon manga]].

{{adv|Green}} from the [[Pokémon Adventures]] manga, who appears to be based on an [[Pokémon Red and Green beta#Female player character|unused female player character]] from {{game|Red and Green|s}}, is widely considered to be Leaf's counterpart in the manga. This is supported by the fact that Green's outfit changes to match Leaf's in the {{chap|FireRed & LeafGreen}}.

Leaf also has a counterpart in the [[Pokémon Ruby-Sapphire]] manga series named {{OBP|Blue|Pokémon Ruby-Sapphire}}.

==Trivia==
* Although her official debut was in FireRed/LeafGreen, Leaf's artwork was in Pokémon Colosseum, which came out a full two months before the aforementioned remakes.
* In [[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]], {{p|Jigglypuff}} can wear Leaf's hat as an alternate costume. This is similar to how {{p|Pikachu}} wears {{ga|Red}}'s hat as an alternate costume and coincidentally, Leaf's [[Pokémon Adventures]] counterpart is Green, whose main Pokémon is a Jigglypuff and Red's Pokémon Adventures counterpart's main Pokémon is a Pikachu.
* Leaf is the only {{player}} character who has not had an appearance in the anime, either through a counterpart (as is the case with {{jo|Jimmy}}/{{ga|Ethan}} and {{Ash}}/{{ga|Red}}) or a movie cameo (as has happened to {{ga|Brendan}} and {{ga|Lucas}}).
** Alongside {{ga|Kris}}, Leaf is also the only player character who does not appear even if her alternate-gender counterpart has been selected as the player.
* One of Leaf's sprites shows her with blue eyes although every other sprite, and the official artwork, shows her with brown eyes.
* The majority of her Japanese default names are shared with {{ga|Dawn}} and {{ga|Lyra}}. She also shares all of {{ga|Kris}}'s alternate Japanese names.
* Leaf is the only female player character whose default name is not a common given name. {{ga|Kris}}, {{ga|May}}, {{ga|Dawn}}, and {{ga|Lyra}} are all somewhat common given names.
** Leaf's name was found in FireRed and LeafGreen's data as a dummied-out opponent Trainer, alongside Red (whose name is Red as it was before).
* One of her default names in Japanese is "Satoko," the [[Ashley|pseudonym]] used by {{Ash}} in ''[[EP026|Pokémon Scent-sation!]]'' to get into Erika's Gym.
* Despite popular belief that Leaf would reappear as an opponent, much like {{ga|Red|her male counterpart}} and {{ga|Blue|her rival}}, in {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}} (due to them being sequels to {{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}}, where she was introduced), she does not appear within the games, nor is she referred to.
* Though she is neither playable nor an opponent in the handheld Generation IV games, Leaf made a brief cameo battling against {{ga|Red}} in an early trailer for [[Pokémon Battle Revolution]] on the Wii.
* Though "Leaf" is by far the name she is most commonly known by, she is also sometimes referred to as '''Fuguri''' (フグリ) in the Japanese fandom. The name is derived from {{tt|リー'''フグリ'''ーン|LeafGreen}} (rī'''fugurī'''n).

{{-}}
{{Player characters}}
{{-}}
{{Project CharacterDex notice}}
[[Category:FireRed and LeafGreen characters]]
[[Category:Female characters]]

[[de:Grün (Spielcharakter)]]
[[fr:Leaf]]

Talk:Hilda (game)

2011-02-25T14:55:57Z

Pocketfanmk: /* Nuvema Town */

Permission to edit? [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 22:41, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

== Silent Hills ==
Where did this come from? This was the name used for the starting down in the Gold and Silver beta version, I doubt they're going to use it considering the {{wp|Silent Hill}} series. {{unsigned|Phantomjunkie}}

==Permission==
to add Kanoko Town, please?--[[User:Phantomjunkie|Phantom]][[User talk:Phantomjunkie|Junkie]] 15:03, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

== Her apparent default name? ==

I keep seeing her name being defaulted as Touko (トウコ), apparently from the Battle Subway as a tag-battle partner. Does anyone have any confirmation so we can move the page? [[User:Pocketfanmk|Pocketfanmk]] 00:22, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

== White ==

Even though Adventures calls her White and here she was also temporarily called such, everyother site I've been to prior to the release called her BLACK. Same thing with Touya, as he was called WHITE on everyother site. I don't really recommend that kind of trivia if only this site was who called them such, as the popular choice was White for Touya and Black for Touko prior to the manga. [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] 16:24, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
:What? I've been always hearing the opposite. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 16:29, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
::Right, it's the exact opposite of that, Shiramu Kuromu. Pre-release images and videos were all calling Touya "Black" and Touko "White." [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 16:41, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
:::Then please state otherwise on the trivia, because if official pre-release information refered to Touya as Black and Touko as White, you should mention it was pre-release info that said those names instead of the fans, as the fans said Touya is White and Touko is Black. [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] 18:43, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
::::It used to say that it was pre-release info we got the names from... idk, I've been away from Bulbapedia for a while, I don't know what's been going on. ;D Also I had no idea that the fans used the opposite names... I'm more familiar with the habits of the Japanese fans, who unquestionably had called Touya "Black" and Touko "White." From what I heard from others though I could have sworn English fans used the same names... huh. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 18:52, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::Most English fans did call Touya "Black" and Touko "White". I actually haven't seen a single instance in any forums where they have been referred to as the opposite. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 03:38, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
::::::Can you give some examples of fansites that had Touko as Black and Touya as White? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 03:55, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

== Move to Whitlea ==

[http://www.pokemon-sp.jp/news-sp/2011/02/0218_02.html?rss=547 Even the Japanese site says it.]--'''[[User:Immewnity|''immewnity'']][[User talk:Immewnity|the]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|mew]]''' 23:25, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
:The names used on screenshots are never the same as their NPC names. Learn from the past. Blair and Whitlea are like Heart and Soul, just made less obvious. Their Battle Subway names will be something different, I'm sure. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 23:29, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

== Nuvema Town ==
She's now from Nuvema Town; the page's protected so can someone change that please. [[User:Pocketfanmk|Pocketfanmk]] 14:55, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Hilda (game)

2011-02-25T14:55:27Z

Pocketfanmk:

Talk:Subway Boss Ingo

2011-02-22T04:37:02Z

Pocketfanmk: /* Move? (along with Ingo) */

== Move? (along with Ingo) ==

Can we move Nobori to Ingo and Kudari to Emmet? [[User:Pocketfanmk|Pocketfanmk]] 01:38, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
:It is already moved... [[User:Pokabu82|Pokabu]][[user talk:Pokabu82|82]] 01:41, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
::I mean move Nobori to Ingo (rather than Emmet) and Kudari to Emmet (rather than Ingo). The names are switched. [[User:Pocketfanmk|Pocketfanmk]] 01:47, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
:::Oops... My bad! [[User:Pokabu82|Pokabu]][[user talk:Pokabu82|82]] 01:50, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
::::And your source for this name mistake is? - [[User:Kogoro|'''<sc>Kogoro</sc>''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<sc>Talk to me</sc>''']] - 02:53, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
:::::Well according to the picture of filb.de, if you follow past double battles in Pokemon, Emmet is the one on the left (Kudari) and Ingo is the one on the right (Nobori). I've checked a video on youtube and it said "Subway Master Kudari and Subway Master Nobori..." in that order. Also, it would fit the names better: "Kudari" = "out-bound line" = "Emmet"; "Nobori" = "in-bound line" = "Ingo". 3 things that I found that pointed to me which one was which. [[User:Pocketfanmk|Pocketfanmk]] 04:37, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Subway Boss Ingo

2011-02-22T01:47:22Z

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Talk:Subway Boss Ingo

2011-02-22T01:39:55Z

Pocketfanmk: /* Move? (along with Emmet) */

== Move? (along with Ingo) ==

Can we move Nobori to Ingo and Kudari to Emmet? [[User:Pocketfanmk|Pocketfanmk]] 01:38, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Subway Boss Ingo

2011-02-22T01:38:40Z

Pocketfanmk: Move? (along with Emmet)

== Move? (along with Emmet) ==

Can we move Nobori to Ingo and Kudari to Emmet? [[User:Pocketfanmk|Pocketfanmk]] 01:38, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Emmet

2011-02-22T01:31:42Z

Pocketfanmk: /* Move? (along with Emmet) */

== Move? (along with Emmet) ==

I'm really thinking Kudari should be moved to Emmet and Nobori to Ingo. [[User:Pocketfanmk|Pocketfanmk]] 01:31, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Emmet

2011-02-22T01:30:57Z

Pocketfanmk: Move? (along with Emmet)

== Move? (along with Emmet) ==

I'm really thinking Kudari should be moved to Emmet and Nobori to Ingo.

Black and White (song)

2011-02-12T18:05:21Z

Pocketfanmk:

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It is the opening theme song for the season [[Pokémon: Black & White]]. It contains clips from [[Best Wishes (song)|Best Wishes!]]. It first aired with ''[[BW001|In the Shadow of Zekrom!]]'' on February 12, 2011.

==Characters==

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When the journey begins.
Hard to find your way,
Hard to make new friends.
But there's nothing you can't do,
'Cause you got the power inside of you.
It's not always [[Pokémon: Black & White|Black & White]],
But your heart always knows what's right.
It's not about win or lose, it's the path you choose.
Let the journey begin,
Pokémon!''</ab>

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* This is the first dub opening for the Pokémon anime to not feature any human characters.
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Talk:Ethan (game)

2011-02-04T04:17:51Z

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Hey, one of his opcional names is "Chris". [[User:Haruka uzumaki|Haruka uzumaki]] 16:01, 24 September 2007
:Only in Crystal, though. [[User:IIMarckus|IIMarckus]] 16:12, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, as you know, "Chris" can be a guy and a girl's name.--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 12:12, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

== HGSS ==
The Sunday preview confirmed him --[[User:Nick.|Nick.]], <sc>[[User talk:Nick.|something to say?]]</sc> 23:30, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

== ARTWORK ==
I have a better Artwork for him (i think)
http://i44.tinypic.com/30cogw3.jpg
should we use this?--[[User:DawnXPiplup|DawnXPiplup]] 09:46, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
:No.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 12:15, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
::I wouldn't say that one is better. It's not as good as quality as the other one. Plus, its jps.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 12:18, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
:Just so you know, the one most people can see now is not the most updated one. I just posted one. Archives has problems again. [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 12:20, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
::Indeed. Compare the history of {{img|HGSS Gold.png|this one}} from the [[a:File:HGSS Gold.png|other one]]. It's different. Admins (or system admins) are dealing with this problem, which we hopefully be fixed soon. '''[[User:Kevzo8|Kev]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|zo8]]''' 12:24, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Aside from it being jpg format, which one is the actual picture? Everything's darker in the one already on the article, but the one here looks like what it's {{tt|supposed to be|Sugimori coloring}}. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 12:26, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
:::: The darker one appears to be a render that somebody uploaded. The most updated version of the file is the official Sugimori artwork as posted on the [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/game/ds/hgss/ HG/SS] game website. [[User:Trainer-c|Trainer-c]] 12:32, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

== The part about Gold's pants ==

It says Gold is the only male player character who wears shorts. This is not true; Brendan wears shorts in Emerald. --[[User:Evice|Evice]] 04:03, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
:It says he's the only male character who doesn't wear long pants. That is different. --[[User:Galladeon|Galladeon]] 04:50, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
::Yes that's true. But under those shorts are pants. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 05:18, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
:::While it is a confusing style choice (and hell for cosplay), Brendan does wear trousers and then shorts on top. They're not long socks, at least from what I can tell. Unless you have some official source which specifically says something about Brendan's choice of lower-half clothing. '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 16:20, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
::::How exactly can you tell that they aren't long socks? They look like tube socks that are about the same color as his shorts (notice how what you're calling "long pants" aren't as baggy as his pants in Ruby and Sapphire; rather, they're tight like socks). It's not like there aren't socks that are that long. Do ''you'' have an official source regarding his clothes? Wearing shorts over long pants isn't exactly common. --[[User:Evice|Evice]] 22:58, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::Do you have a source that they are are tube socks? --[[User:PsychicRider|PsychicRider]] [[User talk:PsychicRider|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|C]] 23:08, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
::::::(EC) I've debated it a lot myself, but short of getting some official word on it, it's best to go based on what most people assume it to be at first glance, which seems to be shorts over trousers. I'm really unsure myself, seeing as I don't try and pay all too much attention to it, and my interpretation is also slightly askew because [[Ruby (Special)|of the manga]]. This topic is starting to drift away from being related to Gold and more being related to Brendan, so can we either get back onto it, or move this section to [[Talk:Brendan (game)|Brendan's page]]. '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 23:11, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::::No, but it doesn't look like you have a source saying he's wearing two pairs of pants at the same time, which is more unusual than wearing shorts and long socks. I think they look like socks because whatever he's wearing under his shorts doesn't look like his pants in Ruby and Sapphire, which were baggier and not a solid color. --[[User:Evice|Evice]] 23:15, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

:{{tt|Let's move this [[Talk:Brendan (game)|elsewhere]], ladies.|No offense.}} --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 23:22, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

== Could i add this? ==

One of his pictures features him with a green poké ball. And the same with eusine. Is that good trivia to add.--[[User:Pokéboy93|Pokéboy93]] 15:19, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

== Gold's Gen II sprites ==

I started up Crystal and got into a battle with [[Carrie]] at the Trainer House and Gold's Gold and Silver sprite is used for her (her page mentions using Gold's sprite), despite Gold's own Trainer Card displaying that game's new sprite (shown in the sprites section). Can this usage be mentioned? The only problem is that I haven't been able to confirm how it's used for other Trainer House opponents (such as [[Cal]]) as well as during link battles. Does anyone know what the case is with those? --[[User:Evice|Evice]] 23:57, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
:Cal uses character's sprite because he's a placeholder for a proper player (who the player connects, when he uses IR-DA capabilities of GBC). This is a simply technical limitation. If Cal's gonna be featured in HGSS, then he'll probably have his own sprite (he had his own design in Stadium 2, anyways). --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 06:17, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
::I wasn't referring to how they use Gold's sprite, I'm talking about how in Crystal they don't use [[a:File:Gold_crystal.png|his sprite from that game]], instead using [[a:File:Gold.gif|his sprite from Gold and Silver]]. I should have made that more clear. --[[User:Evice|Evice]] 14:45, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
:::That's something to mention in Cal's article, I think. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 14:48, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
::::[[Cal (game)|Done.]] --[[User:Evice|Evice]] 02:13, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

== Defaults in HGSS ==

Well, Festa's video shows him having a default name of Hiroki and another as Soul, while Soul gets Miki and Heart. Now, given that's not a guarantee of their names. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:53, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
:Keep in mind that those Festa videos are using SS and not HG, hence the male character being Soul and the female being Heart, etc.—[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 07:11, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
::Personally, I think we should wait to see what their names are when they're NPCs (such as how the names for Brendan, May, Dawn, and Lucas come from the names used as NPCs). Unless of course Game Freak doesn't give them set names like previous opposite-gender characters (I guess there isn't anything stopping Game Freak from doing that). --[[User:Evice|Evice]] 17:48, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

== Pointless trivia I noticed ==

Gold appears to be the only player character (at least the only male player character) to wear his headgear (in this case, a baseball cap) backward. (I'm only counting game characters, since [[Red (Special)|Red's Pokémon Adventures counterpart]] wears his hat like this in the chapters based on Generation I.) Can this be added? --[[User:Evice|Evice]] 17:55, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

== In the Trivia section... ==

"All female player characters either wear a skirt (Leaf and Dawn) or cycling shorts (Kris, May, and Soul)."
:What the crap is that supposed to mean?--'''Dark''' [[Mask of Ice|'''ICE''']] (User:Cold)([[user:Cold|page]], [[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 21:02, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
::It does not sound that important to me.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 21:07, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
::: {{tt|It's not.|Or are you referring to my comment?}} First it's talking about guys, then it's talking about girls. (Kinda like most of the boys at my school.) Could an admin please take it off?--'''Dark''' [[Mask of Ice|'''ICE''']] (User:Cold)([[user:Cold|page]], [[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 21:16, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
::::I was talking about why is that in there. That trivia would make more sense if there were like 10-20 girls in the games. And yes why is/was it on a boy's page?--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 00:40, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

== B/c this is protected ==

Can someone put this trivia in.
"Gold is the only male player not to have a "common" name." Red is a name but not as common as Brenden and Lucas.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 23:25, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
::I don't know about you, but I have never once heard of anyone else named "Red" --[[User:Gen1king|'''GE''']][[User talk:Gen1king|'''N1''']][[Special:Contributions/Gen1king|'''KI''''''NG''']] 07:15, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
:::You've never seen That 70's Show? Or Back to the Future? Or played Spyro? There are Reds in each. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:30, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

== Hibiki? ==

Since the girl was confirmed to be Kotone, why isn't Gold's article moved to Hibiki. It was shown on the PokeGear screen referring to him as such and doesn't seem likely the opposite gender character is nameable.

And the girl is Kotone, not Hibiki. {{unsigned|Raine}}
:It could of been one of the default names or the person who was playing the game named it. Therefore, Hibiki is not his real name just wait for the games to come out. --[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 00:55, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
Ah, but the girl was the player during the time. (When Shoko was playing HG.)

It wasn't referring to the player character since it was on the Phone List.--[[User:Raine|Raine]] 00:59, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
:The player's mom refers to a friend named Hibiki while playing as the girl, so it must indeed be his NPC name. See here: [http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g29/vs_seeker/mom.jpg]. This also matches Kotone's name (which means "koto sound" [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koto_(musical_instrument)]), since it means echo, sound, reverberation, noise. [[User:Capsule Computer|Capsule Computer]] 08:36, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
So... since Hibiki has been confirmed to be his official name, shouldn't the page be renamed Hibiki (game), and "Gold (game)" can redirect here? [[User:FireMeowth|FireMeowth]] 14:53, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
::If anything, the page should be split with all Gen II info remaining here, and all Gen IV info on a new page. '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 15:03, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
:::Well, new information generally replaces old information, and he was never formally called ''Gold'' in the [[Generation II]] games, so... I think we whould move this to ''Hibiki (game)''. It may be stated in the page that he used to be known as Gold before [[Generation IV]]. - [[User:D-Wheel|D-Wheel]] 17:59, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
::::We didn't rename Blue's article to Green when FRLG were released. So should we change this article's name? - [[User:Crystal Master|Crystal Master]] 21:10, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::Cause people hate Kotone's name. That's the only reason it is an issue. They figure since she can't be Soul, Gold should be Hibiki. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 21:13, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::I thought that it was because Blue's NPC Appearance trumps his Rival Appearance, since the player can still name him in FRLG. If he's "Green" in HGSS (outside Japan, anyway), then I think he should be moved to Green. Thus, I think Gold should be moved to Hibiki... once we get his English Name, anyway.--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 21:46, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::::It's not just because of that, Kenji-girl. I liked Kotone's actual name better than Soul. We didn't rename Blue because that's the only way he was formally referred to in the games. Even with FRLG released, he was never called Green. Hibiki was never formally called Gold in the games, and now '''he's being clearly called Hibiki'''. So, I think that's it. - [[User:D-Wheel|D-Wheel]] 22:08, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::::So you're saying that the GS protagonist had no name until Game Freak created the remakes? I find that pretty bizarre, considering that the Crystal girl HAD a name. - [[User:Crystal Master|Crystal Master]] 22:41, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::: He had no '''in-game''' name. Now it was confirmed to be Hibiki, so... - [[User:D-Wheel|D-Wheel]] 22:52, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::But he must have had a official name, seeing how Kris had one - [[User:Crystal Master|Crystal Master]] 23:05, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::::"Kris" does not have an official in-game name. The only official names she's got are are the ones from the anime and manga. Remember - official names =/= default names. [[User:FireMeowth|FireMeowth]] 10:06, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::::Wrong. The back of the Pokémon Crystal box calls her "Kris". Specifically, it says "New female trainer Kris faces the Unown" [http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/bigboxshots/7/375087_50686_back.jpg]. - [[User:Crystal Master|Crystal Master]] 19:27, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::::: "while in HeartGold and SoulSilver his female counterpart is Kotone. If one is to choose play as Kotone, Gold will still appear as an NPC, with the name Hibiki." Yes? No? [[User:M190049|'''''~m190049''''']][[User talk:M190049|'''''~talk''''']] 22:49, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::: While I do believe his name is Hibiki, I'm not sure it should be moved quite yet, not until the English Version is released, because as unlikely as it could be, what if the PCI decides to name Hibiki, Gold? We would've changed his name basically just because his Japanese name is Hibiki. I think a note or something would be best at this time. --[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 17:20, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::Hey, guys. Here's a solution. We have a perfectly fine English name for the guy. Why move it to a Japanese name that's gonna get changed anyway in six months? Like with {{ga|Blue}}, we should ''wait for the English release'', and then wait until the teams get ripped and see what the "true name" is of this guy. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:28, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::::Shouldn't we at least give his Japanese name as Hibiki? It still gives his Japanese name as Gold and never mentions the name Hibiki. --[[User:Evice|Evice]] 19:10, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::::We should. And we should move the page. That "we'll have to move his page someday anyway" argument is stupid. Such things happen. And what's wrong? Is this so much of a deal to change the links. Having him under "Gold" is stupid and unreasonable now. As of now, this name is just a mere fanname. Same goes for {{ga|Pearl}}. "It's too late" argument isn't really right. It's not the policy that we should go by. Pearl's name is Barry and Gold's (Japanese) name is Hibiki. Bear with it. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 11:50, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::::::apparently, hibiki also means echo, sound, or noise [[User:Vik0z0z|vik0z0z]] 19:17, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::::::Maxim: If Gold is just a "fanname" like you say, then what was this guy's real name during the 2nd gen? Again, I don't buy that he was a nameless character, seeing how his original female counterpart, the Crystal girl, had a official name [http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/bigboxshots/7/375087_50686_back.jpg]. And for that matter, is the name we use for the GSC rival, Silver, a "fanname", too? - [[User:Crystal Master|Crystal Master]] 01:15, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::Silver wasn't a fanname. If you leave the name blank in Crystal his name is Silver. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 01:18, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::So basically, we're assuming that:
::::::::::::::::The RGBY protagonist is named after the "first" version of the generation he debuted on, Red.
::::::::::::::::The RGBY rival is named after the "second" version of the generation he debuted on, Green/Blue.
::::::::::::::::The GSC rival is named after the "second" version of the generation he debuted on, Silver.
::::::::::::::::Going from that, isn't it safe to assume that Gold was the GSC boy's original official name (not just a fan name), and the remakes simply changed it to Hibiki because, as a set name ala Brendan/May/Lucas/Dawn, it would look out of place in comparison with the new girl's name (saying "Gold and Kotone" sounds much more weird than saying "Hibiki and Kotone")? Also, more evidence of the GSC boy's original name being Gold is that Red, Blue/Green, Silver and Kris' names appear in the games at top of the list of selectable player names. Red's name was was the top one in Pokémon Red, Blue/Green's was in Pokémon Blue/Green, Silver's was in Pokémon Silver, and Kris' was in Pokémon Crystal (as the first available name for the female trainer). So following the pattern used by every other Gen I/II player character and rival, the GSC boy's name should be the one that is at the top of the list of selectable names in Pokémon Gold, Gold (duh). - [[User:Crystal Master|Crystal Master]] 01:38, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::::Nope, the protaganist and rival from GSC The protaganists and rivals names were both confirmed in GS, where they could be battled. Official names for them was never used pre-HGSS. And we can't rely on DATA, now when we DO have an official name - in-game data is often different than the official name, for instance, Blues in-game data in FRLG calls him "KERRY", or something similar. To name the characters after versions was dropped sometime between Yellow and Crystal. [[User:Pokémon Lover King Mario|Pokémon Lover King Mario]] 07:39, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
: I don't see why this is such a big deal. The only reason I can think of to keep the name "Gold" is nostalgia. Officially, his name is now Hibiki, like it is written in HGSS. [[User:Fairy Red|Fairy Red]] 04:23, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
:: True, but Good O' Bulba Likes to have articles with English names. Since "Gold" is the closest we have to an English name, it will stay as is. for a while anyway <big>'''End of discussion'''</big> [[Special:Contributions/ShinyPikachu|'''Shiny''']][[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']] 20:13, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
:::Sorry to respond to something so old, but I don't remember you being promoted to admin, {{tt|ShinyPika|If you actually were, blame your userpage, it lies! Please don't block me!!!}}. I don't recall normal users to be able to just do that. Just please try to avoid that stuff in the future, it can lead to problems, kay :) --[[User:Gen1king|'''GE''']][[User talk:Gen1king|'''N1''']][[Special:Contributions/Gen1king|'''KI''''''NG''']] 07:13, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

== Gold is a secondary character if Kotone is chosen as the player character. ==

Gold is a secondary character if Kotone is chosen as the player character. His role seems to be identical to Kotone if Gold is chosen as the player character. His Pokemon is a Marill. Could someone please add this important tidbit to the article? Thanks. [[User:CubeShapedWatermelon|CubeShapedWatermelon]] 21:49, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
:Also, somebody should probably add that while playing as Kotone, his grandparents run the Day Care.
:(...And is it just me, or is the "Storyline in the games"-section pretty... unneeded?) [[User:FireMeowth|FireMeowth]] 08:46, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
::Yep. It is just you. If the other player characters have it, then why shouldn't Gold? - [[User:Crystal Master|Crystal Master]] 20:07, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
:::May doesn't have it. Brendan doesn't have it. Dawn doesn't have it. Lucas doesn't have it. KOTONE doesn't even have it. Besides, isn't the storyline already written in the respective game's article? [[User:FireMeowth|FireMeowth]] 19:14, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

== His appearence? ==

Did he slim down from Gold/Silver to Crystal? Or, at least his clothing is less baggy in his Crystal sprite, and artwork. His pants seem longer too. Is that notable trivia? [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 20:14, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
:The fact he's the only male PC to wear shorts (or at the very least not full trousers) is already mentioned. Also, the slimmer look you're talking about is mainly because his new outfit consists of hooded jacket, rather than a full-on hoodie. (Also this is very forum-y) '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 00:06, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
::Sugimori got better at drawing, too. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 16:41, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
Maybe he is meant to be a year or so older in the remakes. That would explain why he looks taller and slimmer. [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 20:56, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

== Pokémon Party ==

Can someone change the color of the box?
{{Party|color={{silver color}}|bordercolor={{silver color dark}}
|headcolor={{silver color light}}
|sprite=HGSS Ethan.png‎
|class={{color2|000|Pokémon Trainer}}
|name=Hibiki
|prize=None
|game=[[Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver|{{color|000000|HeartGold and SoulSilver}}]]
|location=[[Route 29|{{color|000000|Route 29}}]]
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon|gen=4|game=HeartGold and SoulSilver|ndex=183|pokemon=Marill
|gender=male|level=5|type1=Water|ability=
|move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Defense Curl|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status}}}}
to
{{Party|color={{gold color}}|bordercolor={{gold color dark}}
|headcolor={{gold color light}}
|sprite=HGSS Ethan.png‎
|class={{color2|000|Pokémon Trainer}}
|name=Hibiki
|prize=None
|game=[[Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver|{{color|000000|HeartGold and SoulSilver}}]]
|location=[[Route 29|{{color|000000|Route 29}}]]
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon|gen=4|game=HeartGold and SoulSilver|ndex=183|pokemon=Marill
|gender=male|level=5|type1=Water|ability=
|move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Defense Curl|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status}}}}
I think it better. --[[User:Nechigawara|Nechigawara]]-[[User talk:Nechigawara|Talking]] 02:14, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

:Yep, sure is. But I used HeartGold color because it is in HeartGold only. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 06:37, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

== "Game" ==

Why do these articles have [Name of the player](game) as their names? Examples [[Red (game)]], [[Gold (game)]], [[Kris (game)]]. But the articles are about the trainers, not a game called Red, Gold or Kris. Shouldn't we change them to "Red (trainer)", "Gold (trainer)" or "Kris (trainer)"?--[[User:Dr. James|Dr. James]] 03:47, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
:No. It means (name) ([From the] game). Birthday! ''Alpha'' [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 03:48, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
::But then, shouldn't it be "Gold (Pokémon Gold, Silver, Crystal, HeartGold and SoulSilver)"? --[[User:Dr. James|Dr. James]] 03:51, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
:::That'd be way too long. Birthday! ''Alpha'' [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 03:51, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
::::The game designers will not likely name two main characters the same thing.--[[User:GreenGyarados|♫Green]][[Gyarados (Pokémon)|♫ギャラドス♫]][[User Talk:GreenGyarados|Talk♫]] 03:53, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
::::The parenthesis should indicate ''what are we talking about''. Like this, if the article's name is "Gold (game)", then the article should be about a ''game'' called ''Gold''. However, we are talking about a trainer, or player. So it should be "Gold (player)" or "Gold (trainer)". I hope you understand my point. --[[User:Dr. James|Dr. James]] 03:55, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::While I see your point, (trainer) would not work, as the (game) is also used to distinguish game characters from anime characters and manga characters, and they are trainers in all three media. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 04:12, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::How about "player"? Because Gold, Kris and Red are "players" (playable trainers) after all. It's just..., we aren't talking about a game here, but a player. --[[User:Dr. James|Dr. James]] 04:15, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::::I see where you're coming from, but like others have said, it basically means Gold (from the game). The concept comes from stuff like [[May (game)]] and [[May (anime)]] both existing, and the rest just conform to that established standard. Besides, [[Gold (game)]] differentiates from [[Gold (Special)]] as well. While I do see you're point, I don't think it's gonna be changed anytime soon. It's just an established system that's worked fine so far. [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 04:48, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Mmmm... Gotcha. Okay, it was only a suggestion, because a normal user wouldn't understand the title so easily. Even I didn't understand it, that's why I asked it. I hope it changes, to make Bulbapedia a better place. --[[User:Dr. James|Dr. James]] 04:44, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

== Hibiki's namelist in HGSS? ==

Kotone's namelist is already up, so does anyone have Hibiki's yet? Also, I just noticed that he shares several names with Red and Lucas/Kouki (ala Leaf, Kotone, and Dawn/Hikari sharing names).
--[[User:Raine|Raine]] 01:53, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

== Challenge sprite ==

[[File:HibikiChallenge.png]] Could someone put this sprite in Gold's Sprite box? thank-you. [[User talk: ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']] 14:34, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

:[[File:HGSS Gold Clean.png]] And his backsprite? Just like Kotone's spritebox has all that stuff. {{color|00DD00|--[[User:Bulbafan|Bulbafan]] 16:32, 9 October 2009 (UTC)}}
::Done. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 06:26, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
:::[[File:GS Gold Back.png]] You guys forget this -[[User:Pokeant|Pokeant]] 01:24, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
::::That's the lot of them then. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:48, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

==Family==
Wait, if Kotone's grandparents run the day-care if she's an NPC, isn't the same true for Gold? If so, should it be added to the article? [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 04:07, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
:Done. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 06:26, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
::I guess, since theyre pretty much the same person but different gender, so im guessing yes [[User:Fudgenuggets]] 23:34, 15 October 2009
:::Dude, it was added like 3 days ago. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 06:56, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

== Alteration to the Trivia Section ==

"Gold is the '''only male player character''' to have '''two different female''' counterparts."

Does it really matter what the specific genders are? No. So I suggest the following change.

"Gold is the '''only player character''' to have '''two different opposite-gender''' counterparts."

Think about it. ''[[User:Glitchipedia|This message brought to you by Glitchipedia, the falsified encyclopedia]] 03:14, 26 October 2009 (UTC)''
:<s>May, Brendan... Emerald sprites... Dawn... Lucas... Platinum sprites...</s> [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 03:39, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

== English Name Possibly Revealed ==

The first English screenshots have been released by Nintendo (although I am unable to provide a direct link, you can find them at www.officialnintendomagazine.co.uk), and according to the screenshots Gold's name in HGSS is '''Soul'''. [[User:Watchermark|Watchermark]] 10:55, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
:EVERY screen shot in the Japanese pre-release pictures said his name was "Soul" as well. HOWEVER, later they officially released the name as "Hibiki," not "Soul"... I think you can expect this to be the exact same... ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]])
::Default name in SoulSilver! DERRRR! Names as the player can't be taken as canon. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:25, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

== Backsprite ==

Gold's backsprite is wrong!!
Why does it use the beta backsprite instead of the actual one? (The beta has a red logo on the cap, the official doesn't) -[[User:Adwajr|adwajr]]
:The backsprites on this article do not have a red logo on the cap. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:44, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
::It displays this though: [[File:HGSS_Gold_Back.png]] This is his beta backsprite. -[[User:Adwajr|adwajr]]
:::But that has no red logo... [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|You enter a poorly lit room...]] 13:22, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
::::Oh, I guess it was fixed when i wasn't looking. --[[User:Adwajr|Adwajr]] 10:43, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
:::::No.... he just doesn't have a red logo on the back at all. He didn't in his Gen. II sprites either. Only in his artwork. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 17:00, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

== Lucas pose? ==

In the trivia section, it states that Gold's HGSS sprite is positioned the same as Lucas' Platinum sprite, but it isn't! There are clear differences, and if I were to say that one of Gold's sprites were in the same pose as Lucas's, it'd be the Crystal sprite, but mirrored. Could this be changed, please? --[[User:MewSoul|MewSoul]] 20:27, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
:The legs and left arm are in the exact same position. That's what is meant. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:26, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
::....or are they talking about the back sprite? [[User:ShinyPikachu|Shiny]] [[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']] 21:32, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
::: [[File:HGSS_Ethan.png]] [[File:Pt_Lucas.png]] I see similarities, don't you guys? Mewsoul, we're talking about Lucas' Platinum sprite. :) [[User:Tyro|Tyro]] 21:39, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
::::I never said they weren't similar. I said they weren't the same. --[[User:MewSoul|MewSoul]] 20:54, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
:::: Seriously??? Gold's right leg is crooked while Lucas' right leg is normally positioned, so not the same. [[User:BAC510]] 08:50 February 2, 2010 (UTC)
::::: They're similar, but not enough to note. Trivia on this wiki have skewed way too stupidly specific anyway, we don't need any more of it.—[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 09:58, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::Wow BAC... "There are clear differences" was the beginning of the second sentence. And you're being way too picky about it. But I agree with Urutapu. We're starting to get trivia just for the sake of trivia. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 13:30, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

:::::::By "clear differences", I might've just exaggerated it a bit though. Even so, the way it's written in the Trivia section made me think that they just edited Lucas's Platinum sprite to make Gold's. Could we at least say that his sprite is ''similar'' rather than ''same''? Same implies that there are no differences (besides the clothes in this case). Also, is the article locked or something? I can't edit it for some reason. --[[User:MewSoul|MewSoul]] 20:50, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Yes, the article has been protected. See the section below for why. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 20:56, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

== US Name ==
Serebii revealed Hibiki's US name. It's Ethan. Kotone's Lyra. --[[User:CitruX|CitruX]] 13:52, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
:Do we have an official source? If not, it surely shouldn't matter what Serebii says. [[User:FireMeowth|FireMeowth]] 14:32, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
::We believed them back in the never forgotten April Fools, when Merrick revealed all DP names. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 14:51, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
:::That was all the way back in April '07. We didn't have that many policies back then. And now we do, which is "wait until the game release/episode airs". I feel a little suspicious that he's not giving a source, either... ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 16:13, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
::::Joe's reason has been that he's got an "inside source he can't reveal" because it would be, like, a breach of contract for that source. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 00:20, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

His new official name is Ethan [http:http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml]
:...yes. We are still going to wait until the game's release. There has been no ''official'' source given on those names, Serebii's not a good enough source. ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 18:02, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
::Not disagreeing with official policy, but making a declaration that names aren't changed until the game is released [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Talk:Pok%C3%A9mon_Ranger:_Tracks_of_Light#Proposing_a_change_from_.22tracks.22_to_.22locus.22 while simultaneously holding a vote to change the listed name of an unreleased game] seems kinda silly.--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 18:24, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
:::That's due to a supposed translation error. This is due to speculation. They are completely different situations. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 18:29, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
::::Either way, I'd prefer to keep him as Gold. Forever. Gen II character, Gen II naming convention. We aren't moving Red to Ash or Jack, now are we? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:17, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::Cry me a river, Mister Editor-In-Chief. You'd have been all for moving the page if they'd named him after you. Besides, moving Gold to Ethan (or whatever) isn't comparable to moving Red to Ash or Jack. Jack wasn't the name set forth in-game, and Ash is an anime character. It's more comparable to the point Zesty Cactus makes a few bullets down. --'''[[User:Darkeiya|Darkeiya]]''' ''[[User talk:Darkeiya|talk to me!]]'' 00:02, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

:::::Yes, but those aren't his official names, right? Anyways, it don't matter to me, I all for waiting until the game is released. Serebii is usually right, but we can't take chances, and rules are rules. [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 23:20, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

::::He was never called "Gold" in-game, and now he is canocally named Hibiki (or Ethan, whatever) if not chosen as the player... but I'm already tired of this old discussion... - [[User:Taylor|Taylor]] 23:37, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::I'd personally like to move the page to "Ethan" or "Hibiki", ''but'' no matter what, we're waiting for the games to come out to make a decision.
:::::Oh, btw, TTE: If {{ga|Blue}} is "Green" in English HGSS, would you move the page? I know with Blue it's slightly different because he was renamed to Blue for RBY, but to move Blue to Green would be the same logic as moving Gold to Ethan/Hibiki (imho). --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 23:54, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::Green's his name. LeafGreen was FireRed's counterpart, not WaterBlue. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:56, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::I believe that, at this point in time, we are still honouring his first English canon name, which is Blue. Just as we seem to be honouring Gold's first English canon name as Gold and not Hibiki/Ethan/whoever. (on a related note, [[Vincent]] is Vincent and not Jackson, although "Jackson" appeared first). I'm not favouring one name over the other necessarily, I just favour consistent choices of names (first English appearance vs. most recent English appearance). --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 05:11, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Uh, oh... This kind of thing happened with Pearl- No, wait, Barry. I really truly hope this doesn't turn into a move-war. Just in case though,''' I OPPOSE''' --[[User:Gen1king|'''GE''']][[User talk:Gen1king|'''N1''']][[Special:Contributions/Gen1king|'''KI''''''NG''']] 07:03, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Green is his name in Japan. Elsewhere, it’s Blue. On this one, though, I wish we could have left it Gold. --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 23:02, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
:::May I make a suggestion? Protect both Gold (game) and Kotone (game) until the official release of the game. That way, no-one is arguing, and that can also determine whether or not Serebii.net is telling the truth about the English names for Gold and Kotone respectively.--[[User:Kangaflora|Kangaflora]] 21:49, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
::::Whatever his name does turn out to be, if it's not Gold then all HG/SS details on this page should be moved to a new page under the new name. There is nothing there to say that the old Gold/Crystal are the same as the new pair - and if Kotone has a separate page, then Hibiki should as well. '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 22:38, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::That's a slippery slope then, D. What if I don't like Red's Generation III Design and want them to split Generation III Red from Generation I/II? Or what if I say that we don't know if Red is the same person in RGBY as he is in FRLG. We could end up with a separate page on each character from each generation at the end. In the end, I think a more simple method is required. The reason why Lyra has a different page than Kris is because Lyra was presented as a different character (both by Pokémon Sunday in Japan, and the Anime) while Ethan/Gold hasn't had that distinction made.--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 22:43, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
::::::Kangaflora - welcome to five weeks ago.
::::::TheChrisD - uhhh, in that case, details about Fire need to be moved off of [[Red (game)]] and onto their own page, too. 8( The name "Gold" for the GSC male protagonist is, afaik, as fan-based as the name "Fire" is for the FRLG one. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 22:46, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::But unlike Gold/Crystal, Red and Blue are explicitly named as such in Gens II and IV (we hope), which gives solid proof that those characters are one and the same. But, has there been any solid proof given (with the exception of PokéSpecial) that Gen II Gold and Gen IV Hibiki/Ethan/whatever are the same character? '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 00:15, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
::::::::But that still means that there'd be a different page for "Red" in Generation III and VI than the one in Generation I and II. After all, just because the name's the same doesn't mean they're the same character, not to mention different actions being taken in both sets of games (RGBY vs FRLG). It leads down the same slippery slope. As for Gen II Gold being the same person as Gen IV Ethan, doesn't the burden of proof lay with you to prove they are different people? I don't believe there is evidence either way (unless one takes the lack of Ethan in the Anime as evidence).--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 00:40, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::Ugh, I thought this was a dead issue. If Gold's name changes, the page's name should change to the more up-to-date version. It would be his first canon name, seeing as Gold was really only his name in one version (that is, Gold version). Not just in this case, either. If Red's name were to change, I'd certainly advocate that it be moved. As for arguments pertaining to Kotone, that IS a dead issue. We decided long ago that she and Kris were to be considered different characters. That does not mean that Gold and Hibiki should be considered different characters; to assume so would be denying the obvious fact that Hibiki is a redesign. And that's the end of this rant for now... --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 02:58, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::I think seeing what the manga has in store will help decide if he is a new character. I think someone said something about Lyra being Crystal's younger sister. Maybe Ethan is Gold's younger brother. We will have to wait. The games don't tell us these things. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 05:03, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

== Korean Name ==

Because of page block I can't put it in. It's 심향 ''Simhyang''. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 10:16, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

== Image name inconsistency ==

Speaking of names, [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:HibikiChallenge.png several] [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:HGSS_Hibiki.png sprites] of HGSS's Gold use the name Hibiki, with Gold as a redirect. IMO, they should all use Gold, with Hibiki redirecting to them, seeing as we're keeping Gold as the article's name.

Or maybe it's my OCD talking?
''[[User:Chosen|Chosen]] of [[User talk:Chosen|Mana]]'' [[User:Chosen|-]] 16:18, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
:I think they are waiting until we get the official OK about his English name to change them to anything. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 17:16, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

== Info Box Color ==
Can someone fix the info box color to HeartGold color like the other character's info boxes? I can't do anything about it since the page is locked so... [[User:Fudgenuggets|Fudgenuggets]] 18:17, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
:Well, {{u|ElectAbuzzzz}} made the infobox Gold colored. He must have a reason behind it. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 01:49, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
::Because he's Gold. Same reason Red's is Red and not FireRed. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:29, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

----

Well, what about the user who wanted to change his colors to SoulSilver because he was “Soul” in prerelease screens? --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 23:02, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
:If you read his edit note, you'd have seen his reasons for doing so is that not only was he originally called Soul in prerelease screens, but also in the intro section to both HeartGold and SoulSilver, Ethan appears with a silver background, whereas Lyra appears with a gold background. Reverting your revision for the moment, until a decision from someone "higher-up" happens. Also don't revert one and not the other, because that made both Ethan and Lyra use gold coloured infoboxes. '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 17:24, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
::I did read his edit sumary, otherwise, how would I even know about the “Soul” thing? And you’re right, there was more to his reasoning. A whole, what, 2 seconds of animation? But I think it is going overboard to say that his counterparts and his past don’t matter at all to this. I also don’t see the problem with Ethan and Lyra both having a golden color scheme, in fact, it makes good sense: they both serve the same role(s) in the story, and they both oppose {{ga|Silver}}( who has a silver color scheme); besides which, they are not exactly the same, Ethan uses a normal gold infobox, while Lyra uses a heartgold-color infobox. As for someone “higher-up”... TTE( who comented just before me in this discussion) fits that description, no? Obviously, his authority can be superceded by facts or board decisions, but he is still EIC. --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 01:16, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
:::The article is about the game character from the fourth generation, with only minor throwbacks to the character from the second generation, and thus the colour scheme hinted to us from the fourth generation is what matters. Anime and manga counterparts have their own pages, and the colour schemes from those characters should be evident on those pages, but not here. Plus there are only very minor shading differences between gold and heartgold, and silver and soulsilver, at least from what I can tell. As for TTE's comment, that was from before the games were released in America and his English name was revealed, so the current situation is different now. '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 12:24, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
::::So you decide "lol so make him silver". Yeah. Okay sure. And then we make the RBY rival purple because of his pants. Come ''on''. Lyra goes SoulSilver, Silver goes Silver, Ethan goes Gold. Just keep the damn consistency between counterparts unless there's any real reason to have it not be consistent, like Ash, who is more associated with Pikachu's electric yellow than Red. Heck, if we get the reveal that Kris in Adventures is in Lyra's outfit, we should make a new decision whether or not to keep Lyra and Kris as separate game characters...
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::::By the way. The above is taken from the opening of HeartGold and SoulSilver. I see no "default color" around either of them. If anything, this implies SoulSilver color should be '''blue'''. But it's not gonna be! We draw the colors from elsewhere. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:33, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
::::::That's not the location I believe that's being referred to here. The main introduction montage to the game whenever it is booted up shows Ethan on a silver background and Lyra on a gold background towards the end before showing off the three starters. That's where I believe the original editor got the idea from to switch around their colour schemes, along with other cues from the media, such as pre-release screens with the names Soul and Heart. '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 09:47, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::Oh, nice to see you chimed in here even before I asked( although that is mainly because I spent 12 hours trying unsuccessfully to edit your user page. I mean, seriously, the article is about (a )character(s) from Generations II ''AND'' IV; if it was only about Ethan, Gold would have a separate page, like Lyra and Kris. The name “Ethan” had in fact already been revealed in February, though not officially, and there is [[User talk:TTEchidna/Archive Jan-Mar 10#Barry's Page|evidence in TTE’s Talk Archives]] suggesting that he had already grudgingly accepted that it would be confirmed. Besides which, the opening montage had already been seen in the Japanese versions well before, including the 2 seconds where she is on a gold background with him on a silver. Of course, anyone may change his mind, including TTE, and I didn’t know whether or not he put significant thought into that comment when he made it, or what his opinion might now be since the games’ English release, which is why I asked him( albeit late due to posting issues) to look in on this discussion. But you couldn’t claim he lacked access to information when he said that, and his new comment just affirms it all. --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 02:41, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
:Maybe I'm a little late on this, but COMPROMISE: Have Ethan's infobox be mainly gold with a silver border or something, and Lyra inverted? D: Might as well have both colors... ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 16:49, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

[[File:EthanLyraHGSSOp.png]]

Here you go, guys. The scene from the official game opening, depicting Ethan's color as silver and Lyra's color as gold. If you think you have more authority than Game Freak themselves, then keep gold for Ethan... - [[User:D-Wheel|D-Wheel]] 21:26, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

== Requesting infobox addition... ==

<nowiki>manga=counterpart |
mangacounterpart={{adv|Gold}} |
roundnum=PS091|
roundname=Murkrow Flies |
}}</nowiki>

- ''[[User:Chosen|Chosen]] of [[User talk:Chosen|Mana]]'' [[User:Chosen|-]] 16:12, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

== name meaning ==
japanese name means echo while english name Means "solid, enduring" in Hebrew... could we add that... [[User:Badwolf1234|Badwolf1234]] 03:08, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
:The Japanese name meaning is there already. I'm not sure about the English name in relation to Hebrew, since the game doesn't have an official Hebrew version. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jel]][[User Talk:Jello|lo]] 03:12, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

:acttually the name ethan means solid enduring in hebrew.. not the hebrew name because there is no herew version of the game....[[User:Badwolf1234|Badwolf1234]] 03:25, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
::His English name isn't going there yet, thus we have no reason to add in the English name's ''meaning'' yet. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 03:28, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
:::We don't add the literal meanings of unless they're significant, and that generally only applies to the Asian names. For the Western names we generally only put the pun (i.e. Ethan sounds like "echo," we'd put that and not "solid").—[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 19:13, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
::::This is possibly a coincidence but Ethan is also one of the most accepted names of the harp player in King David's court in the Bible. Should this be noted?--[[User:Skystar|Skystar]] 14:34, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::I just thought "Ethan" related to "ethos", a Greek word that can mean "state of being" or "soul."--[[User:RiverAura|River]][[User_Talk:RiverAura|Aura]] 23:42, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
::::Except Ethan ''doesn’t'' sound like echo, at all really. They are completely dissimilar phonetically. Ethan has a long E, while echo has a short e, which are very different sounds in English. The h performs completely different functions in the two different digraphs. None of the phonemes are significantly similar. Clearly, the Biblical reference to a musician is more significant than the orthographic similarity, since all his other names are related to sounds or musical instruments, as is Lyra. --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 23:02, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

== The page name should be Gold (game). ==

At least, he should be referred to as Gold in mentions of Generation II. He's only Ethan as the NPC in 4th Gen. Everywhere else, he's Gold. [[User:Emyunoxious|Emyunoxious]] 21:48, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
*That'd be like calling Blue "Gary" or, hell, "Douche" or something. After all, he's only called Blue as the NPC in 2nd Gen. You see how that logic just doesn't work? [[User:Reign|Reign]] 21:50, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
::Can you guys not see the extensive debate we had over this? ''On the same talk page''? He's staying as Ethan because it's the only official name we have for him now- makes sense to call him that. NPC names take priority over common fan ones for pick-your-poison-type names. That's all. We're not going back to Gold. >___> ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tin
a|♥]] 22:02, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
:::"You guys"? I was saying that we ''shouldn't'' move it.[[User:Reign|Reign]] 22:18, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

== Optional names? ==

Can anyone find the optional names for Ethan & Lyra? [[User:Pocketfanmk|Pocketfanmk]] 05:01, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
:Uhm... what optional names? You don't get to choose anything about their names, unlike in, for example, DPPt. If you are male, it's Lyra, if you are female, it's Ethan. Simple as that.--[[User:Afrael|Afrael]] 23:49, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
::I think they mean the optional names that you get when you select your player's name and put in nothing... there's always a list of optional names in the game data. Lucas and Dawn have it, I think Lyra has her Japanese names up.. I'll look around to see if I can find the English ones though. ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 23:56, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

== Older brother? ==

Anyone have a scan of that part of that pamplhet? [http://idisk.me.com/celebi23/Public/PKMN/1998%2002%20-%20Computer%20and%20Videogames.png This one] says he has a younger one but it seems pretty wrong. I don't recall any part of the beta placing Ethan in a city holding a laptop (unless they mean the Pokegear). Oh, and off topic, but Ethan says the Marill thing listed on Lyra's page, right? I'm adding it. [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 16:31, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
:Yes, well that also states that you can use a skateboard, and that Ampharos could be related to Pikachu. Doesn't seem like a very reliable source for saying he has a brother. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 17:08, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
::The scan of that pamphlet can be found [http://web.me.com/celebi23/Spaceworld_97_Pokemon/Spaceworld_1997_Guide_Book.html here]. That article that Lovely Rose linked has a bunch of mistranslations in it; the trivia about the older brother was added by me, translated directly from the Spaceworld 1997 pamphlet. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 17:22, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

== Locations!! ==
I'm not sure I looked well enough, but where is the section saying where you run into your childhood friend throughout the game and where they are after you beat the game. I need to find Ethan about the Shiny Leaf thing. --[[User:Lustre|Lustre]] 01:41, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
:I think he's in the top floor of Elm's lab. Go up the outside stairs. If someone could confirm that, then add it to the page. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 10:05, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
::Actually, I spent a while looking for him, and maybe it's at a certain time or not, but he was in his house playing with Marill in his room. --[[User:Lustre|Lustre]] 12:12, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
:::To go into more detail, he calls about random things, such as wanting you to bring a Poliwag to Route 40. I have no clue what this is about. I did post this same idea on the Route 40 discussion page to see if anybody knows about it, but responses there are slower than a slug on weed. [[User:KurosakisTwin|KurosakisTwin]] 01:19, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
::::Replied. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 06:04, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

==Gold==
"He had no official name in Generation II, but was unofficially known by fans as Gold (ゴールド Gold)."
He was called Gold in the istruction booklet that came with the Gold Version.'''Bug Catcher Wade'''http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/0/00/190MS.png 02:23, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
:He was called Silver in the counterpart version. I think it's best that we leave his name as Ethan. [[User:KurosakisTwin|KurosakisTwin]] 02:38, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

== What the... ==

"Despite, Lyra being called Soul, Ethan was the only one who appeared in-game in demos with the name Soul."

This makes no sense.--'''[[User:Immewnity|''immewnity'']][[User talk:Immewnity|the]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|mew]]''' 19:42, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
:This reminds me of the prerelease hype from like, August, when we used to call Lyra "Soul", but Ethan was "Soul" in preview footage and Lyra was "Heart" in the same footage. It's stupid irrelevant trivia though, so I removed it. --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 20:05, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

::Trust me, it's like this with any set of player characters before their actual names are revealed. I mean, given what's known, it doesn't matter just how much of the fandom call the Generation V female player character "Black" and how much call her "White". In the end, odds are everyone'll be calling her {{red link|Iris (game)|Iris}}, given how that's the most likely name for the character at this point (that character's anime counterpart bears that name). --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 22:08, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
:That comma after despite is also DEFINITELY wrong. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 13:03, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
::That comma is what I was mostly going after. And, SP252, Iris isn't the anime counterpart. It's another character completely.--'''[[User:Immewnity|''immewnity'']][[User talk:Immewnity|the]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|mew]]''' 14:30, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

== About his name... ==

The name origin kinda just bothers me..It seems a bit TOO obscure. I know it's minor and not that relevant but are we sure it has nothing to do with the actual word "echo" itself? I doubt it's a coincidence they're spelled similarly. [[User:Pocketfanmk|Pocketfanmk]] 04:17, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Silver (game)

2011-01-21T06:24:45Z

Pocketfanmk: /* Just curious... */ new section

Is there any way to suggest that Silver is "Giovanni's red-haired son" without causing a discussion that would span for 40 days and 40 nights, break for an hour, then start up again? --[[User:Meowth346|Meowth346]]

>Emphasize that's fan speciulation at best? - Zeta

What if we classified it as "heavily implied?" Since, it seems to be. [[User:Cheesedude|Cheesedude]] 03:19, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

==Sneasel==
If I'm remembering correctly, Silver steals his Sneasel from a guy in Cianwood. He gives Gold his Shuckle so Silve dosen't come back and steal that, too. That seems pretty relevant to me....[[User:Cheesedude|Cheesedude]] 03:19, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia's article on Silver is MUCH more detailed, which is odd, since this is Bulbapedia....[[User:Cheesedude|Cheesedude]] 03:20, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

:responding to this a year later -_- Anyway if you have a look at Silver's non-starter Pokémon they are all more or less sweeper-based in stats. Shuckle has no offensive powers really, and the only time it has them is when it sacrifices all its defense (and its still too slow to be any good). I doubt Silver wanted it.--[[User:Outrage DD|Outrage DD]] 19:10, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
::Yeah, I definitely think that Silver steals his Sneasel from the guy in Cianwood, since he has it in a point of the game where you can't get it at that point yet. <big>[[user:chocolate|Cho]][[user talk:chocolate|col]][[special:contributions/chocolate|ate]]</big> 19:12, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

== Crobat? ==

...how does having a Crobat show that he loves his Pokémon? [[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|The]][[Kirlia (Pokémon)|Kirlia]] ♥ [[Image:281MS.gif]] 19:36, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Because this means that his Pokémon love him, 'cause Golbat will evolve just if its Happiness is at maximum. And, a Pokémon can't be happy if the Trainer don't care about them, just if the Trainer really loves the Pokémom.'''[[User:Haruka uzumaki|うずまき]][[User talk:Haruka uzumaki|ハルカ]]''' 20:05, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

:Yeah but, there are [[Soothe Bell|other ways]] too get your Pokémon to love you, [[Luxury Ball|loads of others]], so it doesn't really mean he loved his Crobat in return. I'd look [[Happiness|here]] for more info xD [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 21:43, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
::[[Revival Herb|You have to be cruel to be kind.]]'''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''03:57 29 May 2008'''''
::: ↑ Wouldn't that just cancel it out...? --[[User:Cat2killer|CAT2 A.K.A Cat2killer]] 00:35, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
::::It's tough love, but anyway. The Crobat is likely implied further evidence that Silver was not just spouting things about 'caring more' for his Pokémon, but actually changing (or has changed) his initial attitude of being a rash and cruel trainer.[[User:HechEff|HechEff]] 12:27, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

== Sprite ==

I want to update the battle info to the new standard, but first, I need to know this: Do we currently have the Silver sprite uploaded? 'Cause we really need it for the template. --[[user:Chocolate|Chocolate]] ([[user talk:Chocolate|talk to me]]) 01:53, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
:Do you have the moveset too? [[User: Tc26|'''tc''']][[User talk: Tc26|'''2''']][[Special: Contributions/Tc26|'''6''']] 01:58, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
::Check silversprite 1 and 2 [[User: Tc26|'''tc''']][[User talk: Tc26|'''2''']][[Special: Contributions/Tc26|'''6''']] 02:15, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
:::I don't quite have the movesets, but I do know this: In [[Generation I]], the 4 moves were always the most recent 4 moves that a Pokémon would know it its level. So, when I'm putting the table, I'll do it like that until someone else can confirm otherwise. --[[user:Chocolate|Chocolate]] ([[user talk:Chocolate|talk to me]]) 02:19, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
::::They've got movesets and stuff if you search hard enough in a GSC walkthrough on GameFAQs.com. [[User:Gligar|'''Gli''']][[User talk:Gligar|'''gar''']] 02:25, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::Well, can someone more experienced update the battle info? I'm a bit too tired to do it right now. --[[user:Chocolate|Chocolate]] ([[user talk:Chocolate|talk to me]]) 02:42, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::I can do it. [[User: Tc26|'''tc''']][[User talk: Tc26|'''2''']][[Special: Contributions/Tc26|'''6''']] 02:48, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Why does the article has a Crystal sprite if it's the same as in Gold and Silver? The correct thing is to put a list of all the sprites and their variations like in Green's/Blue's article. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 21:51, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

==Kamon?==

Do we really need to mention that name? It's just the first player name choice for the Silver version, and Hiroki (the first for Gold) isn't the name used by Gold's Anime equivalent (Kenta). "Mentioned on an Anime website"? What site? Sounds like fanwank to me. [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 13:54, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
:Thank you, ArcToraphim. [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 15:56, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
i think the original japanese you guys have in here for silver its not the right one cause while i put it in pokeani it appeared richie.
:シルバ is correct. Pokéani isn’t really the best source. (See also: the recent removal of all the gym leader titles taken from Pokéani.) [[User:IIMarckus|IIMarckus]] 19:52, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

== Picture of Anime Debut ==

I just saw that it had all the text on it. If I possibly could, would it be acceptable for me to find one without text and replace the current one? ''[[User:ShinjiLover|シンジ]]'''''[[Paul|Shinji]]'''[[User talk:ShinjiLover|Lover]],'''[[Special:Contributions/ShinjiLover|Edits]]''' 07:39, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
:By all means go ahead. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 00:07, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

== Optional names? ==

Where are his optional name? [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 20:04, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
:Not here. Anyone got GSC? Go find out for us. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 01:56, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
::I... don't think he has any. It enters "SILVER" in Gold and Crystal, and "GOLD" in Silver, but other than that... nothing. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:03, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Would that be 50/50 split in Crystal? - ''unsigned comment from {{u|Cat2killer}} ([[User talk:Cat2killer|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Cat2killer|contribs]]) ''
There are no optional names. When the cop asks for his name, you have to come up with it yourself. --[[user:Ryuutakeshi|Ryuutakeshi]] 1:40 August 27 2009

== Anime Counterpart ==

Isn't [[Paul]] Silver's anime counterpart, but it said on this [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Cross-canon_counterparts page]. --'''[[User:Lance123|∫∆π©∑]][[User talk:Lance123|一二三]]''' 09:15, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
:Yeah... that page lied.... naughty page... it's all better now. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 09:43, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

== Silver's new design ==

Serebii has uploaded a scan showing Silver's redesign for the remakes, but the pic is too small [http://www.serebii.net/heartgoldsoulsilver/scan0609.jpg]

I was wondering if anyone has a link to a bigger one, so that we can upload a decent image with his new design and update the article. -- [[User:Pokéman|Pokéman]] 12:05, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
:Even if there WAS a decent version of this scan, there is no way it would be put in the article. just wait for the official site to update with the art. There is no reason for crappy quality art to be used. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 12:14, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
:Filb.de and PokéBeach. Basically the same though. I agree, wait for the site. They're incomplete. The site may update this weekend, the next one or the one after that. [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 12:40, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
::Sketch: Even if we don't replace the main image, shouldn't we add the scan with the redesign somewhere in the article?
::Tc26: Thanks. I had checked PokéBeach and Filb.de before writing the comment, but they hadn't updated with the new scans yet. -[[User:Pokéman|Pokéman]] 13:15, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
:::No, because it's low quality. Just wait for the site to update. It won't take long. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 13:23, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

== HGSS sprite ==

<big>W</big>hy does silver's HGSS sprite keep getting remove from the article? [[User talk: ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']] 20:13, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

:Because we don't know it's final, just like we don't know if any of the other revealed sprites are final. Remember that Weavile and Munchlax got changed after being revealed for D/P, and a bunch of others that hadn't been revealed probably got changed too. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 21:08, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
::Well, we know what the final one is now, considering Pokémon Sunday recently showed a battle with Silver. If they changed his sprite after that, I want to know why.--[[User:Ryuutakeshi|Ryuutakeshi]] 23:55, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
:::Is it the same one? I can't find the thing on Sunday... '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 00:34, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
::::Look on [[Talk: Rival|this page]]. The sprite is kinda there. [[User talk: ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']] 00:44, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::Alright. Now I have to wait to see if the one on my Sandbox page is the final after the animation or not. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 01:07, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::This is probably known to you all, but we know can update ALL sprites, since they have all been ripped.--[[User:Ryuutakeshi|Ryuutakeshi]] 05:23, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Including Silver's animated one? '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 21:25, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::::You know, I know that there are people out there who have it, but I can't for the life of me find it. {{unsigned|Ryuutakeshi}}
:When Bulbagarden gets hold of the sprite, they will go up. Don't rush. Thank you. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:45, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

== Soul? ==

That's right. Silver has a new name now, his default is either Heart (ハート ''Heart'') or Soul (ソウル ''Soul'') depending on your version.
--[[User:Raine|Raine]] 15:14, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
:It was like that in Gold and Silver too, his name was either Gold or Silver was his default name depending on the version. The exception is Crystal, where his default name is Silver. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 18:23, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
But not anymore.

His posssible names are only Heart and Soul, ''not'' Gold or Silver, so the article should be moved.--[[User:Raine|Raine]] 22:34, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
:We're leaving it where it is until the English versions come out. Same for {{OBP|Gold|game}}. [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 22:40, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
::Must we really change it? People still call him Silver. A lot of people don't even realize his new defaults. --[[User:Ryuutakeshi|Ryuutakeshi]] 02:34, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
:::Well no wonder, the game hasn't even been out for a week, and is Japanese-only so far. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 02:54, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
::::His default name is:
*Pokémon Gold: Silver
*Pokémon Silver: Gold
*Pokémon Crystal: Silver
*Pokémon HeartGold: Soul
*Pokémon SoulSilver: Heart
::::So if we did move, which one would we move him to? His history makes me lean towards keeping the article at Silver. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 18:25, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::Also, placeholder data in HGSS calls him "Silver". So, we should stick to that, just as we call FRLG girl "{{ga|Leaf}}". --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 18:50, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::{{OBP|Kotone|game}} has the default names "Heart" and "Soul" as well. If we call Silver Heart or Soul, that'll get... confusing. [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 19:03, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::::I would like to stick with Silver. If you look for the most common default name in the list, that is the answer. I would think that it would be one of the player characters if you were to sau Heart or Soul, not Silver. [[User:Solar Dragon|Solar Dragon]] 19:07, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::::As I'm sure you all know, the Pearl article was recently changed to Barry on the grounds that it appears at the top of two of three default name lists. I guess you can sort of apply the same argument here, but keep in mind this is a remake. In addition, the Barry article chose to ignore the placeholder name. Keep in mind that placeholder data isn't necessarily reliable (Red would otherwise be Ninten, Blue'd be either Sony or Terry and Barry would be Cedric), though it was used in a case where no clear default was ever indicated (Leaf). I guess the real answer to this is if Bulbapedia is willing to include an outdated generation in this. I personally wouldn't, but it's your call. [[User:LinkTheLefty|LinkTheLefty]] 04:15, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

== Say What?! ==

Quote: "Giovanni and Silver's relationship is revealed in HeartGold and SoulSilver if the player brings a promotional Celebi to the Ilex Shrine in Ilex Forest. Celebi takes the player back in time three years to witness Giovanni abandoning Silver to go into seclusion because of his defeat. Silver's hate for Team Rocket apparently stems from them failing his father."

What's this event? I've heard of the pichu event and arceus event, but not this one. Where did this come from, and why can i not find anything else about it on any other pages? The curiosity is killing me! [[User:Morgil27|Morgil27]] 19:00, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
:Maybe because the games have been out less than a week and thus information is still coming in? But it's true, here - http://pokebeach.com/2009/09/part-4-of-heartgold-and-soulsilver-coverage. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 19:02, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
::Nintendo haven't acknowledged it in the pre-release info but it has been found inside the game's code. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 15:20, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
:::[http://www.serebii.net/heartgoldsoulsilver/celebi.shtml Serebii] has an article on it if you'd like more info. [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 18:57, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

== Hometown ==

Now that Giovanni is confirmed to be Silver's dad in the games, should we change Silver's hometown from "Unknown" to Viridian City? It'd make sense. [[User:Reign|Reign]] 23:05, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
:No... think about it. Parents could be born someplace totally different from child. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']]★ 23:10, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
::Giovanni is also shown abandoning Silver at the gate to Johto near Viridian... [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 00:27, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
:::Exactly. I'd say that Silver's hometown being Viridian is a pretty safe bet. [[User:Reign|Reign]] 02:12, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
::::Umm just wondering, was he born in Johto or Kanto?--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 02:14, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::Um... that's what we're talking about... sorta... ''Alpha'' [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 02:15, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::Well I'm kinda a blond, but with brown hair. Well back to the topic, did it say anything in the games?--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 02:17, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Read the stupid article and find out. ''Alpha'' [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 02:18, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::::I know it was confirmed in the game, I'm just talking about did it say anything in the games of where he came from.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 02:21, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::That makes no sense. ''Alpha'' [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 02:22, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::Did it say anything about if he came from Kanto or Johto? B/c Giovanni is a Kanto native(presumably), Silver must be from Kanto, but he could been born in Johto.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 02:25, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::Which is what we're talking about. Giovani is from Viridian, and the scene in the game where Giovanni leaves Silver is at the gate connecting Viridian to the rout eleading to Johto.So while it's never outright said Silver is born in Viridian, chances are he was. [[User:Reign|Reign]] 00:22, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
:Think about it. Giovanni's job as Mr. Evil Overlord takes him all over the Pokémon world. You see him in Saffron and Celadon Cities. Silver may have been born there. Let's not forget the fact that it is (or so I am led to believe) the woman who gives birth; no in-game evidence ties Giovanni to anyone in particular. It's entirely possible that Silver is [[Julia]]'s son, and Giovanni's just been lying about being a sailor because his woman doesn't like Team Rocket. Or something equally absurd. Point of the matter is, Silver's birthplace is unknown and we aren't going to put anything in. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 06:01, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
::Eh? The only places we saw Giovanni travel to were Kanto cities (and Tohjo falls, AFTER we see him leaving Kanto and abandoning Silver). Not only there's no evidence to suggest that he had to travel to other regions prior to his defeat by Red, but it's highly unlikely considering that Team Rocket was mainly a Kanto-based organization during Gen I. - [[User:Crystal Master|Crystal Master]]
:::The point was we don't know where Silver is born. We can guess, but it is not going into the article. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:43, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
:::It's likely Silver was born in Viridian, but unless it's confirmed for sure no, it shouldn't be added. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 21:33, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

==Introduction==
This page's introduction is kind of confusing. When I first read it, it sounded like the Fame Checker referenced Special and "Silver's dark demeanor" along with the red haired child clue. I'd edit this myself, but wanted to ask if this was just me or if other people also find the sentence structure confusing.

Here's the sentence as it is now:
Prior to the release of Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver, fan speculation held that Silver was Giovanni's red-haired child, due to Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen's Fame Checker's many references to Pokémon Gold and Silver versions, to Giovanni being Silver's manga equivalent's father in Pokémon Special, and to Silver's dark demeanor and detestment of Team Rocket.

And here's how it could be changed:
Prior to the release of Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver, fan speculation held that Silver was Giovanni's red-haired child, citing as evidence Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen's Fame Checker's many references to Pokémon Gold and Silver versions, Giovanni being Silver's manga equivalent's father in Pokémon Special, and Silver's dark demeanor and detestment of Team Rocket. A sidequest in Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver later proved the theory true.

--[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 01:59, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

== Leaf... ==

Shiningpikablu252: Oh, come on! You said yourself that Leaf should be mentioned in the FR/LG section of the timeline article but not in the G/S/C/HG/SS section because she existed on FR/LG but not on the G/S/C/HG/SS timeline. Now you're contradicting yourself by mentioning her in an article that is about a GSC character, and therefore, it's about the GSC timeline (especially considering that the part I edited was talking about a line said by Giovanni in HG/SS, not FR/LG, so he was clearly talking about Red). What's up with that?

And second, why was the article protected? No "canonicity debacle" started. I simply corrected a mistake, and before anyone could agree or disagree with it, you reverted it and protected the article. - [[User:Crystal Master|Crystal Master]] 02:47, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

:If the fact that Red appears in Mt. Silver and Leaf doesn't appear at all were enough to outright suggest that only one of them can exist in canon, then there wouldn't even be any canonicity debates to begin with. <strike>However, the one and only text reference in the original Generation II games that explicity implies Red came from Copycat, something that can easily be changed to be gender-neutral in a remake.</strike> Even back in Generation II, they said Team Rocket was broken up three years ago by "a kid", which in Genration IV context would imply either Red or Leaf. And odds are the writers wouldn't insert any new text that would explicitly imply Red is the only canon character from the three-years-ago timeline, especially since they took the trouble of perfecting Leaf to begin with. (Yes, I said perfecting--female player characters were taken into consideration as far back as the original concepts for the Japanese Red and Green, but weren't implemented until Crystal due to technical restrictions.)

:Furthermore, Red's team at Mt. Silver is based primarily on other forms of Pokémon media, primarily Ash from the anime, but also in Generation II from {{Special|Red}} in [[Pokémon Special]] (this would explain Espeon). As far as we're concerned, if the depiction of Red is not fully video-game-based, then nobody has a place to say that Leaf has absolutely no place in canon simply because Red's there and Leaf's not.

:In closing: The Leaf mentions stay. To remove them would imply that the Generation I games were the one and only proper canon for the three-years-ago story, and that FireRed/LeafGreen themselves are non-canonical, and that in turn would put some doubt on HeartGold/SoulSilver's canonicity. Whether the Leaf mentions remain in the current wording or not, that remains to be seen. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 03:26, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

::"If the fact that Red appears in Mt. Silver and Leaf doesn't appear at all were enough to outright suggest that only one of them can exist in canon, then there wouldn't even be any canonicity debates to begin with."

::The point is - Leaf's story from FR/LG isn't canon. Red and Leaf can't both be the kid who defeated Team Rocket and became the regional Kanto champion in the same continuity.

::"However, the one and only text reference in the original Generation II games that explicity implies Red came from Copycat, something that can easily be changed to be gender-neutral in a remake. Even back in Generation II, they said Team Rocket was broken up three years ago by "a kid", which in Genration IV context would imply either Red or Leaf."

::If that was the case, I wouldn't have a problem with leaving the kid's identity's ambiguous. However, you're wrong. Blue stated that he was defeated by Red (yes, he mentioned his name) after he became champion when you meet him in Cinnabar Island.

::"Furthermore, Red's team at Mt. Silver is based primarily on other forms of Pokémon media, primarily Ash from the anime, but also in Generation II from {{Special|Red}} in [[Pokémon Special]] (this would explain Espeon). As far as we're concerned, if the depiction of Red is not fully video-game-based, then nobody has a place to say that Leaf has absolutely no place in canon simply because Red's there and Leaf's not."

::Not really. Special Red's team was based on GSC Red's, not the other way around.
::GSC and HG/SS Red's team is based on the four Gen I starters (Pikachu, Venusaur, Charizard and Blastoise) and Pokémon that Red canonically met in Gen I (he got Eevee from that man in Celadon, Lapras from that Silph scientist, and Snorlax when he met it blocking the path to Fuchsia). The only part of HG/SS Red's team that is a reference to other media is Pikachu, as it has the same moves as the anime Pikachu.

::"In closing: The Leaf mentions stay. To remove them would imply that the Generation I games were the one and only proper canon for the three-years-ago story, and that FireRed/LeafGreen themselves are non-canonical, and that in turn would put some doubt on HeartGold/SoulSilver's canonicity. Whether the Leaf mentions remain in the current wording or not, that remains to be seen."

::What? You're saying that for FR/LG to be canon, Leaf has to exist? How does that work? Last time I checked, FR/LG presented two alternate continuities: one where Red traveling Kanto, collecting badges, defeating Team Rocket, and becoming the Kanto champion. The other one was identical except for Leaf taking Red's place. You're telling me that both continuity are canon within the same timeline? How is that even possible? You're saying that Team Rocket took over Silph, was defeated by Red (or Leaf) and ran away, then decided to come back and take over Silph once again, just to be defeated by Leaf (or Red)? That Giovanni was defeated by Red (or Leaf) in his Gym and disbanded TR, then had a change of mind and went back to the gym, then was defeated by the other player character and decided to disband TR once again? That the S.S. Anne sailed from Vermilion City two times (nevermind the fact that it was said that it only comes back once every year)? That Kanto had TWO regional champions? That...
::Sorry, but no. The kid who became the Kanto champion and defeated Giovanni and TR was either Red OR Leaf, not both. And since HG/SS blatantly stated that Red was the Kanto champion (therefore canonizing Red's story from FR/LG), then Leaf has no place in the timeline. - [[User:Crystal Master|Crystal Master]] 04:10, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
:::GS was a continuation of RB. It had Red at the end coz Red was the player character. How is your copy of HGSS going to know which gender you played as in FRLG? It makes sense to simply approximate the whole story to Red's journey only. Leaf's journey exists in the FRLG canon, true it is blissfully ignored, but it still exists and to that extent we as Bulbapedians are bound to cover it. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 04:53, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
::::He has a point though. The one that Giovanni lost to is the same person at the summit of Mt. Silver. Who is that person? Red. Not Leaf. I'm not saying to deny her existence. But the point is that she's not the one at Mt. Silver. Red is. It's that simple. Unless I'm wrong and someone can prove that if you play as Kotone and Leaf will appear instead, then that's basically the case. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 05:26, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

"if you play as Kotone and Leaf will appear instead"
:That actually sounds plausible, make sense to me. Can anyone check that? [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 05:35, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
::I plan on doing it once my game arrives. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 05:37, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
:::You all probably know by now, but nope. Leaf's not there. Sorry Leaf, you're not canon (or at least you didn't become champion, defeat team rocket and become a legend. --[[User:Gen1king|'''GE''']][[User talk:Gen1king|'''N1''']][[Special:Contributions/Gen1king|'''KI''''''NG''']] 23:19, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

== Back sprite ==

Could someone please upload Silver's Back Sprite from his Tag battle with the [[Gold (game)|Pla]][[Kotone (game)|yer]]? [[User talk: ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']] 20:20, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

[[File:HGSS Silver Back.png]] [[User:Kingofall42|Kingofall42]] 10:20, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
there you go.
:Thank-you. Now someone needs to put it in the table EDIT: Nvm, didn't notice it in there. [[User talk: ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']] 13:51, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

== Girl Silver ==

Are you sure that's a girl? Cause the only difference I see is that he has bigger eyes in that drawing. Does it say it in the text or something? --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 08:03, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
:It doesn't look female at all to me. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 10:04, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

== Name ==

He's "Boy". That's his default name in HGSS. Move it? /sarcasm '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TF'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|Lambda]]''' 20:10, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
:Where's ''that'' taken from? Way I figure, his HGSS name is either simply "Rival" (Japanese DeviantArt Pixiv uses that tag often enough) or "Soul" (similar to FRLG's "Green"(/"Blue") as the rival of "Red"). [[User:TJF588|TJF588]] 20:58, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
::Actually, it is "Passerby Boy". '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 20:47, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
:::Wouldn't "Passerby" be his trainer class? -[[User:KinCryos|KinCryos]] 02:55, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

== Celebi Event: Silver's Abandonment Dialogue ==

Silver: You told me... you were the number one in the world! Are you gonna quit? What are you going to do now?
Giovanni: .................. One must acknowledge one's defeat before he can move on... I will go solo... for now... So that one day I will form a stronger organization!
Silver: What aspect of you was number one? Gathering so many only to be defeated by a mere child!
Giovanni: Putting together the potential of many is how you produce a huge power... That's what an organization is... That's the strength of an organization! I failed... to make the best use of my subordinates' potential...! But you shall witness one day the revival of me and my Team Rocket!
Silver: I don't understand you! You don't make any sense!
Giovanni: .................. One day, you will understand. (Walks away)
Silver: I don't want to understand you! I will never become someone like you. A coward when you're alone and acting like a tyrant when you're in front of other cowards! I will become strong! I will become a stronger man all by myself! All by myself!* (Walks up to player)
Silver: ...What are you staring at? (Kicks or pushes player) (Runs off)

*Stretched Text
You're welcome --[[User:Gen1king|'''GE''']][[User talk:Gen1king|'''N1''']][[Special:Contributions/Gen1king|'''KI''''''NG''']] 23:52, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

== Massive problem with his image, literally. ==

Right now his image is stretching the page it's so large, I've forgotten how to make images in a template smaller. Just go on his page and you'll see what I mean. Can someone fix this? [[User:Takoto| - Takoto]] 19:51, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
:It's a simple enough fix, I just don't know the specific size it's supposed to be or I'd fix it. Politoed666 should be able to do it. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 19:56, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

==Rematches==
In Gold, Silver, Crystal, HeartGold, and SoulSilver, Silver (In my games I own, I call him Jackson) can be rematched at the Indigo Plateau on Mondays and Wednesdays.
[[User:DAC12|Dragon]] [[User talk:DAC12|Ace]] [[Special:Contributions/DAC12|Cameron]] 01:03, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
:We know...In fact, I've found out most, I believe, if not all of them, of their moves, but yeah, we already knew...--[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 01:10, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

== Stadium 2 ==

Is he really called "Rival Rival?" [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 23:00, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

== Hair color? ==

Has nobody seen the difference in haircolor from Silver's HGSS back and VS sprites? [[User:Alexjuuhh|Alexjuuhh]] 18:23, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
:It's because of the lighting, you can see slight color differentiations in the other character's back and VS sprite as well. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jel]][[User Talk:Jello|lo]] 19:31, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

== Three eye colors? ==

Gen II art is black, Gen IV art is grey...I'm not seeing "red" among his sprites. So where does it come from? [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 23:14, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
:The opening animation when starting the game shows them as red. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 23:35, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

== Just curious... ==

..but does anyone know where to see this placeholder data in HGSS that says his name is Silver? [[User:Pocketfanmk|Pocketfanmk]] 06:24, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Lyra (game)

2010-12-19T00:08:14Z

Pocketfanmk:

{{CharInfobox|
color={{soulsilver color}} |
corecolor={{soulsilver color light}} |
bordercolor={{soulsilver color dark}} |
name=Lyra |
jname=コトネ |
tmname=Kotone |
slogan=no |
image=HeartGold SoulSilver Lyra.png |
size=190px |
caption=Art from [[Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions|HeartGold and SoulSilver]] |
gender=Female |
hometown=[[New Bark Town]] |
region=[[Johto]] |
relatives=[[Mom]] (as player) [[Daycare Couple|Grandparents]], unnamed father (as NPC)|
trainer=yes |
trainerclass=[[Pokémon Trainer]], [[Player character]] |
game=yes |
generation={{gen|IV}} |
games=[[Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions|HeartGold, SoulSilver]] |
leader=no |
anime=no |
anime=counterpart |
animecounterpart={{an|Lyra}} |
epnum=DP143 |
epname=An Egg Scramble! |
manga=counterpart |
mangacounterpart={{adv|Crystal}} |
roundnum=PS117|
roundname=VS. Slugma |
}}
'''Lyra''' (Japanese: '''コトネ''' ''Kotone'') is the female [[player character]] in {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}. In these games, she is the counterpart to {{ga|Ethan}}, taking over the role from {{ga|Kris}} in {{game|Crystal}}. Her hometown is [[New Bark Town]], where she lives with [[Mom|her mother]].

==Storyline in the games==
===When selected as the player character===
Lyra's journey as a {{pkmn|Trainer}} begins when [[Professor Elm]] asks her to run an errand for [[Mr. Pokémon]], who lives north of [[Cherrygrove City]]. Because she may encounter dangerous wild {{obp|Pokémon|species}} along the way, Elm gives her a choice between three Pokémon for protection: {{p|Cyndaquil}}, {{p|Totodile}} or {{p|Chikorita}}.

Lyra meets a strange boy the same age as her watching Elm's Lab from outside. When she tries to talk to him, the boy abruptly shoves her away. The boy, {{ga|Silver}}, will become Lyra's rival, analogous to {{ga|Blue}} in [[Generation I]] and [[Generation III|III]].

Lyra continues onward and finally meets Mr. Pokémon and completes the errand. While there she meets [[Professor Oak]] who, upon realizing Lyra's bond with her new Pokémon, gives her a [[Pokédex]]. On her way back home, Lyra again meets Silver, who has stolen one of Elm's remaining Pokémon. After defeating the boy in battle, she learns his name from his dropped {{ga|Trainer card}} and relays it to the police in New Bark Town. Professor Elm allows Lyra to keep the Pokémon she chose earlier, and encourages her to compete in the [[Johto League]].

From there Lyra begins on a Pokémon journey in the [[Johto]] [[region]], facing off against its eight [[Gym Leader]]s, defeating and disbanding the revived [[Team Rocket]], and becoming [[Pokémon Champion|Pokémon League Champion]] by defeating the [[Elite Four]] and its previous Champion, [[Lance]] at the [[Indigo Plateau]]. Along the way she also teaches Silver to respect Pokémon as living creatures and not just as tools for battle.

After being declared the Pokémon League Champion, Lyra then takes a short trip on a ship, the [[S.S. Aqua]], from [[Olivine City]] to [[Vermilion City]] in [[Kanto]]. Journeying across that region, she battles against its own set of eight Gym Leaders. Upon getting permission from [[Professor Oak]] in [[Pallet Town]], Lyra heads for [[Mt. Silver]] via {{rt|28|Kanto}}. Her journey comes to a close when she faces the Champion from Pallet Town Pokémon Trainer {{ga|Red}} at the summit of Mt. Silver, who had been training there since shortly after he became Pokémon League Champion [[Generation III|three years prior]].

===When not selected as the player character===
[[File:Goldandsoul.png|thumb|left|200px|Lyra speaking with {{ga|Ethan}}]]
If {{ga|Ethan}} is selected to be the player character, Lyra meets him in [[New Bark Town]] at the start of the game. In this particular scene, she is seen with a {{TP|Lyra|Marill}}. She will always have Marill even if another [[starter Pokémon]] is selected. In addition, she doesn't appear to take the remaining starter Pokémon. Her role in the storyline of HeartGold and SoulSilver is similar to that of {{ga|Lucas}}/{{ga|Dawn}} in {{game2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}} if they are not chosen as the player character, while Ethan takes this place if she is selected as the player.

While playing as Ethan, her grandparents run the [[Pokémon Day Care]] on {{rt|34|Johto}}. Naturally, this role is given to Ethan if she is the player character.
{{-}}

==Pokémon==
Lyra uses this party to show the {{player}} how to catch Pokémon when {{ga|Ethan}} is selected as the player character in {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}.
{{Party|color={{soulsilver color}}|bordercolor={{soulsilver color dark}}
|headcolor={{soulsilver color light}}
|sprite=HGSS_Kotone_Back.png
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Lyra
|prize=None
|game=HGSS
|location=Johto Route 29
|locationname=Route 29
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon|gen=4|game=HeartGold and SoulSilver|ndex=183|pokemon=Marill|level=5|type1=Water|ability=Unknown
|move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Defense Curl|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status}}}}

===Caught in tutorial===
{{Pokémon/4
|game=HeartGold
|ndex=019
|pokemon=Rattata
|type1=Normal
|ability=Unknown
|level=2
|spritegender=male
|move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Tail Whip|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status}}

==Optional names for Lyra==

{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #88a; border-collapse: collapse;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{soulsilver color}};"
! Language || English || Japanese || French || German|| Korean
|-
!
HeartGold 
SoulSilver
||
*''Heart''
*''Soul''
*''Karla''
*''Britney''
*''Kelli''
*''Lindy''
*''Heidi''
*''Miriam''
*''Trudy''
*''Aubrey''
*''Krissa''
*''Naomi''
*''Abby''
*''Dodie''
*''Tamara''
*''Linda''
*''Fiona''
*''Mari''
*''Maggie''
||
*ハート ''Heart''
*ソウル ''Soul''
*キヨミ ''Kiyomi''
*サトコ ''Satoko''
*チホ ''Chiho''
*イオリ ''Iori''
*マキコ ''Makiko''
*ミキコ ''Mikiko''
*ウララ ''Urara''
*ジュンコ ''Junko''
*フウカ ''Fūka''
*リエ ''Rie''
*セツコ ''Setsuko''
*ニッキ ''Nikki''
*マミナ ''Mamina''
*ノリコ ''Noriko''
*ユミカ ''Yumika''
*モモコ ''Momoko''
*ミスズ ''Misuzu''
||
*''Heart''
*''Soul''
*''Becky''
*''Brenda''
*''Carmen''
*''Caro
*''Claire''
*''Coralie''
*''Edith''
*''Hadja''
*''Joanna''
*''Linda''
*''Madge''
*''Nadia''
*''Noémie''
*''Sayaka''
*''Sophie''
*''Suzie''
*''Yuki''
||
*''Heart''
*''Soul''
*''Andrea''
*''Antje''
*''Birgit''
*''Daniela''
*''Diana''
*''Elena''
*''Evelin''
*''Jamie''
*''Klara''
*''Linda''
*''Piera''
*''Sara''
*''Sigrun''
*''Silke''
*''Sina''
*''Suse''
*''Uta''

||
*하트 ''Heart''
*소울 ''Soul''
*꽃님 ''Kkotnim''
*나영 ''Nayeong''
*나정 ''Najeong''
*링링 ''Ringring''
*미영 ''Miyeong''
*사희 ''Sahyi''
*서연 ''Seoyeon''
*설아 ''Seola''
*아라 ''Ara''
*유경 ''Yugyeong''
*윤혜 ''Yunhye''
*은영 ''Eun'yeong''
*인희 ''Inhyi''
*주애 ''Juae''
*지나 ''Jina''
*태희 ''Taehyi''
*해나 ''Haena''
|}

==Sprites==
{| align="center" style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{SoulSilver color dark}}; background: #{{SoulSilver color}};"
|- align=center
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{SoulSilver color dark}}; background: #{{SoulSilver color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:HGSS Lyra.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{SoulSilver color dark}}; background: #{{SoulSilver color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:HGSS_Kotone_Back.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{SoulSilver color dark}}; background: #{{SoulSilver color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:LyraChallenge.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{SoulSilver color dark}}; background: #{{SoulSilver color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:HGSS Kotone Pokéthlon Jersey.png]]
|- align=center style="font-size: 80%;"
| Lyra's sprite from {{color2|000|Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions|HeartGold and SoulSilver}}
| Lyra's backsprite from {{color2|000|Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions|HeartGold and SoulSilver}}
| Lyra's Challenge sprite from {{color2|000|Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions|HeartGold and SoulSilver}}
| Lyra's {{color2|000|Pokéathlon}} sprite from {{color2|000|Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions|HeartGold and SoulSilver}}
|}

==Counterparts==
[[File:KotoneAn.png|thumb|250px|right|Lyra's anime counterpart]]
Shortly after the release of {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}, an {{an|Lyra|anime counterpart}} of Lyra appeared in the episodes from ''[[DP143|An Egg Scramble!]]'' to ''[[DP147|Bagged Then Tagged!]]''. Much as with {{an|May}} and {{an|Dawn}}, she shares both her English and Japanese names with the player character she is based on.

Although Lyra doesn't appear separately in the [[Pokémon Adventures]] manga, {{adv|Crystal}} essentially serves as counterpart by wearing her {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}} outfit in the arc thanks to her mom forcing her to wear it against her will.

==Trivia==
* Much like {{ga|Silver}} received the fan name "Kamon" from the list of {{ga|Ethan}}'s names in {{game|Silver}} for discerning purposes, Lyra was known by much of the fandom as "Soul", following the precedent of {{ga|Red}}'s {{ga|Leaf|female counterpart}} introduced in {{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}}. Interestingly, {{ga|Ethan}} was the only one who appeared in-game in demos with the name Soul: Lyra's name was in fact "Heart" (though likewise, ''Leaf'' was a default name for Red in LeafGreen, and ''Fire'' and ''Red'' default names for Leaf in FireRed).
** Also similar to {{ga|Leaf}}, "Soul" is one of the optional names for Lyra in Pokémon SoulSilver Version.
* It is assumed by some fans that {{ga|Kris}} and Lyra are one and the same, but this possibility has yet to be supported by an official source. [[Takao Unno]] revealed in an interview that he had designed Lyra from scratch, but that only sheds light on the characters' design differences.
* Lyra and Ethan are the only pseudo-rivals, (along with the only [[rival]] characters in any game apart from Wally), to not appear to have a starter Pokémon from the professor in that region.
* Lyra shares many of her Japanese default names with {{ga|Leaf}} and {{ga|Dawn}}. She also shares all of {{ga|Kris}}'s default Japanese names.
* Occasionally, Lyra will call and claim that her {{p|Marill}} evolved into {{p|Azumarill}}. However, regardless of this, her Marill is ''never'' shown to have evolved and in subsequent calls she still refers to it as a Marill, due to the random chronology of the calls.
* Lyra is 4'11" (1.52 m) tall and weighs 90.4 lbs (41 kg). Thus, Lyra is slightly taller and heavier than {{ga|Ethan}}, whereas it was the opposite for {{ga|Lucas}} and {{ga|Dawn}}.

==Names==
Like her Japanese name, Lyra's international names are all derived from musical instruments.

{| class="roundy" align="left" style="background: #{{soulsilver color light}}; border: 3px solid #{{soulsilver color}}"
! Language
! Name
! Origin
|- style="background: #FFF"
|Japanese
| コトネ ''Kotone''
| From 琴音 ''kotone'', "sound of [[wp:Koto (musical instrument)|koto]]".
|- style="background: #FFF"
| English
| Lyra
| From ''{{wp|lyre}}''.
|- style="background: #FFF"
| French
| Célesta
| From ''{{wp|celesta}}''.
|- style="background: #FFF"
| Italian
| Cetra
| From ''{{wp|cetra}}''.
|- style="background: #FFF"
| Spanish
| Lira
| From ''lira'', {{wp|lyre}}.
|- style="background: #FFF"
| Korean
| 금선 ''Geumseon''
| Means "[[wp:Traditional Korean musical instruments#Plucked|Geum]] string."
|- style="background: #FFF"
| Chinese ({{tt|Mandarin|Taiwan}})
| 琴音 ''Qínyīn''
| From 琴音 ''kotone''. Literally means "sound of {{wp|guqin|qin}}." 琴 (''qín'') is also a general term for {{wp|free reed}}, {{wp|string instrument|string}} and {{wp|keyboard instrument|keyboard instruments}}.
|}

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{{Player characters}} 
{{NPC|soulsilver|johto=yes}} 
{{Project CharacterDex notice}}
[[Category:HeartGold and SoulSilver characters]]
[[Category:Female characters]]

[[es:Lira (personaje)]]
[[fr:Célesta (jeux vidéo)]]
[[ja:コトネ (ゲーム)]]

Cross-canon counterpart

2010-12-18T22:47:46Z

Pocketfanmk:

'''Cross-canon counterparts''' are similar characters that appear in different parts of the [[Pokémon]] canon.

As a franchise with so many different forms of canon, Pokémon is famous for having multiple iterations of the same or similar characters, most of which have basis in the {{pkmn|games}}' [[Player character|main]] and [[rival]] characters. The characters in each form of the Pokémon canon which are closely related in their design will most often be recognizable in any of their forms, and may have similar relations to other characters with or without counterparts.

For example, both {{ga|Red}} and {{Ash}} are from [[Pallet Town]], live with their mother, receive a [[starter Pokémon]] from [[Professor Oak]], and begin their journey one step behind their [[Rival|rivals]], {{ga|Blue}} and {{Gary}}. However, Red and Ash do not coexist, nor do Blue and Gary, as they are restricted to their specific canons.

{| align="center" style="background: #dcdce7; -moz-border-radius: 10px; border: 3px solid #bebed1"
|-
! style="background:#ccf; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 5px;" |  
! style="background:#ccf; -moz-border-radius-topright: 5px;" colspan="14" | Name
|-
! style="background:#ccf" | [[Pokémon games|Game characters]]
| style="background:#FFF" | {{ga|Red}}
| style="background:#FFF" | {{ga|Blue}}
| style="background:#FFF" | {{ga|Leaf}}
| style="background:#FFF" | {{ga|Ethan}}
| style="background:#FFF" | {{ga|Silver}}
| style="background:#FFF" | {{ga|Kris}}
| style="background:#FFF" | {{ga|Brendan}}
| style="background:#FFF" | {{ga|May}}
| style="background:#FFF" | {{ga|Lucas}}
| style="background:#FFF" | {{ga|Barry}}
| style="background:#FFF" | {{ga|Dawn}}
| style="background:#FFF" | {{ga|Lyra}}
| style="background:#FFF" | {{ga|Touya}}
| style="background:#FFF" | {{ga|Touko}}
|-
! style="background:#ccf" | [[Pokémon anime|Anime characters]]
| style="background:#FFF" | {{Ash}}
| style="background:#FFF" | [[Gary Oak|Gary]]
| style="background:#FFF" | N/A
| style="background:#FFF" | {{Jo|Jimmy}}/[[Ethan (game)#Counterparts|Cameo]]
| style="background:#FFF" | [[Silver (game)#In the anime|Cameo]]
| style="background:#FFF" | {{Jo|Marina}}
| style="background:#FFF" | [[Brendan (game)#In the anime|Cameo]]
| style="background:#FFF" | {{an|May}}
| style="background:#FFF" | [[Lucas (game)#In the anime|Cameo]]
| style="background:#FFF" | {{an|Barry}}
| style="background:#FFF" | {{an|Dawn}}
| style="background:#FFF" | {{an|Lyra}}
| style="background:#FFF" | N/A
| style="background:#FFF" | N/A
|-
! style="background:#ccf; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft: 5px;" | [[Pokémon Adventures|Pokémon Adventures characters]]
| style="background:#FFF" | {{adv|Red}}
| style="background:#FFF" | {{adv|Blue}}
| style="background:#FFF" | {{adv|Green}}
| style="background:#FFF" | {{adv|Gold}}
| style="background:#FFF" | {{adv|Silver}}
| style="background:#FFF" | {{adv|Crystal}}
| style="background:#FFF" | {{adv|Ruby}}
| style="background:#FFF" | {{adv|Sapphire}}
| style="background:#FFF" | {{adv|Diamond}}
| style="background:#FFF" | {{adv|Pearl}}
| style="background:#FFF" | {{adv|Platinum}}
| style="background:#FFF" | {{adv|Crystal}}
| style="background:#FFF" | {{adv|Black}}
| style="background:#FFF" | {{adv|White}}
|}

Various other characters have differences between their game and alternate versions, such as [[Brock]] and [[Misty]] in the anime, and [[Wally]] in the Pokémon Adventures manga. However, they are not truly different enough to be considered as separate individuals.

==List of cross-canon counterparts==
This list is based on the game characters, as they appear first.
==={{ga|Red}}'s counterparts===
[[File:Red's counterparts.png|550px|right|Red and his counterparts]]
*[[Ash Ketchum]] from [[Pokémon anime]], [[Electric Tale of Pikachu]] manga and [[Ash and Pikachu]] manga
*[[Ritchie]] from [[Pokémon anime]] and [[Electric Tale of Pikachu]].
*{{adv|Red}} from [[Pokémon Adventures]] manga
*[[Isamu Akai|Isamu "Red" Akai]] from [[Pokémon Pocket Monsters]], [[Pokémon Ruby-Sapphire]], and {{OBP|Pocket Monsters DP|Kosaku Anakubo}} manga
*{{OBP|Red|Pokémon Ruby-Sapphire}} from [[Pokémon Ruby-Sapphire]] (Based on the [[Generation III]] design of Red)
*{{Zensho|Satoshi}} from [[Pokémon Zensho]] manga
*{{OBP|Red|4Koma}} from [[Pokémon 4Koma]] manga
*[[Shū]] from [[Pokémon Get da ze!]] manga
*[[Red (game)#In Super Smash Bros. series|Pokémon Trainer]] from [[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]

==={{ga|Blue}}'s counterparts===
*[[Gary Oak]] from [[Pokémon anime]], [[Electric Tale of Pikachu]] manga and [[Ash and Pikachu]] manga
*{{adv|Blue}} from [[Pokémon Adventures]] manga
*[[Kai Midorikawa|Kai "Green" Midorikawa]] from [[Pokémon Pocket Monsters]] manga
*{{Zensho|Shigeru}} from [[Pokémon Zensho]] manga
*{{OBP|Rival|4Koma}} from [[Pokémon 4Koma]] manga

==={{ga|Leaf}}'s counterparts===
*{{adv|Green}} from [[Pokémon Adventures]] manga
*{{OBP|Blue|Pokémon Ruby-Sapphire}} from [[Pokémon Ruby-Sapphire]]

==={{ga|Ethan}}'s counterparts===
*{{Jo|Jimmy}} from [[Pokémon anime]]
*{{adv|Gold}} from [[Pokémon Adventures]] manga
*[[Kinnosuke]] from [[Pokémon Pocket Monsters]] manga
*{{OBP|Gold|Golden Boys}} from [[Pokémon Gold & Silver: The Golden Boys]] manga
*Jou from [[Pocket Monsters HGSS Jou's Big Adventure]] manga
*[[Ethan (game)#Counterparts|Ethan]], a second [[Pokémon anime|anime]] counterpart, who made a brief cameo in the [[M13|thirteenth]] movie.

==={{ga|Silver}}'s counterparts===
*[[Silver (game)#In the anime|Silver]] from [[Pokémon anime]], who made a brief cameo in [[A New Oath|the Japanese opening]] of ''[[The Legend of Thunder!]]''
*{{adv|Silver}} from [[Pokémon Adventures]] manga
*[[Ginjirō]] from [[Pokémon Pocket Monsters]] manga
*{{OBP|Black|Golden Boys}} from [[Pokémon Gold & Silver: The Golden Boys]]

==={{ga|Kris}}'s counterparts===
*{{Jo|Marina}} from [[Pokémon anime]]
*{{adv|Crystal}} from [[Pokémon Adventures]]
*{{OBP|Chris|Golden Boys}} from [[Pokémon Gold & Silver: The Golden Boys]]

==={{ga|Brendan}}'s counterparts===
*[[Brendan (game)#In the anime|Brendan]] from [[Pokémon anime]], who made brief cameos in the [[M06|sixth]], [[M09|ninth]] and [[M11|eleventh]] movies.
*{{adv|Ruby}} from [[Pokémon Adventures]] manga
*[[Rald]] from [[Pokémon Battle Frontier]] manga
*{{OBP|Ruby|Pokémon Ruby-Sapphire}} from [[Pokémon Ruby-Sapphire]] manga

==={{ga|May}}'s counterparts===
*{{an|May}} from [[Pokémon anime]] and [[Ash and Pikachu]] manga
*{{adv|Sapphire}} from [[Pokémon Adventures]] manga
*{{OBP|Sapphire|Pokémon Ruby-Sapphire}} from [[Pokémon Ruby-Sapphire]] manga
*{{Ccp|Haruka}} from [[Pokémon Chamo-Chamo ☆ Pretty ♪]] manga

==={{ga|Lucas}}'s counterparts===
*[[Lucas (game)#In the anime|Lucas]] from [[Pokémon anime]], who made a brief cameo in the [[M11|eleventh]] movie.
*{{adv|Diamond}} from [[Pokémon Adventures]] manga
*[[Hareta]] from [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Adventure!]] manga
* "Game Protagonist" from {{OBP|Pocket Monsters DP|Kosaku Anakubo}} manga

==={{ga|Dawn}}'s counterparts===
*{{an|Dawn}} from [[Pokémon anime]]
*{{adv|Platinum}} from [[Pokémon Adventures]] manga
*[[Mitsumi]] from [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Adventure!|Pokémon DP]] manga

==={{ga|Barry}}'s counterparts===
*{{an|Barry}} from [[Pokémon anime]]
*{{adv|Pearl}} from [[Pokémon Adventures]] manga
*{{OBP|Jun|DPA}} from [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Adventure!]] manga
*{{OBP|Kazuki|Pokémon DP}} from {{OBP|Pocket Monsters DP|Kosaku Anakubo}} manga

==={{ga|Lyra}}'s counterparts===
*{{an|Lyra}} from [[Pokémon anime]]
*{{adv|Crystal}} from [[Pokémon Adventures]]

==={{ga|Touya}}'s counterparts===
*[[Monta]] from [[Pokémon Master Black & White]]
*{{adv|Black}} from [[Pokémon Adventures]] manga.
*{{OBP|Touya|MWL}} from [[Pocket Monsters BW: Meetings with the Legends]]

==={{ga|Touko}}'s counterparts===
*{{adv|White}} from [[Pokémon Adventures]] manga.

[[Category:Fanon terminology]]

Player character

2010-12-18T22:37:16Z

Pocketfanmk:

[[Image:RedStart.png|frame|{{ga|Red}}'s [[Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen Versions|Pokémon journey]] is about to begin...]]
A '''player character''' in the world of [[Pokémon]] is the '''protagonist''' of the {{pkmn|games}}. Remarkably [[wp:silent protagonist|silent]], player characters are the avatar of the player; it is left up to the latter to "fill in" what they imagine the character is feeling, thinking and acting, thus immersing the player within the world of the game.

==Philosophy==
The player character is a critical part of the Pokémon games' core. Set in an approximate background, player characters are effectively the players themselves, giving the latter the opportunity to add in their details, color the journey with their views and personality and co-exist with other players. Concurrently, they are the hero of the said myth, the one person to be part of the main events of each game. The twofold nature of the player character gives players the opportunity to choose from several alternatives and distinguish themselves from one another, while at the same time the adventure of the protagonist of the game is being unfolded, with several of the details not being set or standard. Ultimately, the events of the game progress with the player assuming the protagonist's role, while all at once finding themselves in the world of the game as a unique entity.

==Gameplay==
===Main series===
[[File:PlayerCharactersGrouped.png|thumb|320px|The player characters of the main series games (including redesigns)]]

In the mainstream games, the player characters are [[Pokémon Trainer]]s beginning their [[Pokémon journey]]. Usually, they have [[rival]]s who begin their journey at about the same time. They take part in several events, and meet a great number of Pokémon and people during their adventure. At the conclusion of their journey, most will have conquered a [[Pokémon League]]'s eight [[Gym Leader]]s and [[Elite Four]], and become the {{pkmn|Champion}}. Later games offer additional sidequests, although the main plot of the game is propelled by the Pokémon League challenge.

Those who do the above will most often start their journey in their [[hometown]] by getting, or shortly before getting, a [[starter Pokémon]], a Pokémon that appears very early in their native [[region]]'s [[Regional Pokédex|Pokédex]], and is of the {{t|Grass}}-, {{t|Fire}}-, or {{type2|Water}}. The region's native [[Pokémon professor]] will always give them this, as well as a Pokédex.

In {{game|Crystal}}, and each game in the [[main series]] which followed it, players were also able to pick the [[gender]] of the lead, more often than not to match their own.

Aside from the standard that many of the games' player characters take in their journey, there are also several other ways in which other player characters complete their journey, such as [[Wes]] and [[Michael]] who must defeat [[Cipher]] and free all of their [[snagged Pokémon]] from their [[Shadow Pokémon|Shadow state]].

To date, only one player character has reappeared from an older generation in a role other than that of the player. In [[Generation II]] and {{gen|IV}}, when {{ga|Ethan}} or {{ga|Kris}}/{{ga|Lyra}} travels to [[Mt. Silver]] and reaches the deepest point of the cave, {{ga|Red}} is found, utterly silent as he was under the player's control. At the time of these games' respective releases, [[Red's Pikachu]] was the highest-leveled Pokémon owned by an in-game Trainer ({{ga|Barry}}'s fully evolved starter Pokémon temporarily surpassed the standard set in Gold and Silver until the release of their remakes, HeartGold and SoulSilver).

===Side series===
In the {{ga|Pokémon Ranger}} series, [[Solana]], [[Lunick]], [[Kellyn]], {{ra|Kate}}, {{ra|Ben}} and {{ra|Summer}} are not Pokémon Trainers, but instead {{OBP|Pokémon Ranger|Ranger series}}s. They use the Pokémon they have captured with the [[Capture Styler]] to help them along the way. They also have [[partner Pokémon]] that follow them wherever they go.

In the [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon|Mystery Dungeon series]], players play as actual Pokémon for the first time. Unlike most other Pokémon games, the player actually talks, but is given pre-generated phrases to say to questions.

In the Card GB series, [[Mark]] and [[Mint]] do not use actual Pokémon themselves, but cards instead.

Three unnamed player characters appear in [[Pokémon Stadium series]]. Japanese-only {{jap|Pokémon Stadium}} featured one male character, whose design was likely based on {{ga|Red}}. However, for {{eng|Pokémon Stadium|the sequel}} a brand new male character was created. This player was also in [[Pokémon Stadium 2]], where he was given a female counterpart. She appears when a player uses a [[Pokémon Crystal]] Game Pak with the girl chosen in the saved game. Like the main series player characters, these three remain silent throughout the games.

===Others===
In {{g|Snap}}, [[Todd Snap]] must strive for something different from Trainers. He must capture all the Pokémon on [[Pokémon Island]] — on film.

In [[Pokémon Trozei!]], the main protagonist is [[Lucy Fleetfoot]]. All the player has to do is tap the stage and Lucy accesses it. The player then plays the stage.

==Images==

===Main series===

====Handheld====
{| align="center" style="background: #88a; {{roundy|10px}} border: 5px solid #88a"
|-
! colspan="2" style="background:#bebed1; {{roundytl|5px}}" | {{color2|000|Region}}
! colspan="6" style="background:#{{kanto color light}}" | {{color2|{{kanto color dark}}|Kanto}}
! colspan="5" style="background:#{{johto color light}}" | {{color2|{{johto color dark}}|Johto}}
! colspan="3" style="background:#{{hoenn color light}}" | {{color2|{{hoenn color dark}}|Hoenn}}
! colspan="3" style="background:#{{sinnoh color light}}" | {{color2|{{sinnoh color dark}}|Sinnoh}}
! colspan="2" style="background:#{{unova color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | {{color2|{{unova color dark}}|Unova}}
|-
! colspan="2" style="background:#bebed1" | {{color2|000|Pokémon game|Game}}
! style="background:#{{red color}}" | {{color2|{{red color dark}}|Pokémon Red and Blue Versions|R}}
! style="background:#{{green color}}" | {{color2|{{green color dark}}|Pokémon Red and Green Versions|G}}
! style="background:#{{blue color}}" | {{color2|{{blue color dark}}|Pokémon Blue Version (Japanese)|B}}
! style="background:#{{yellow color}}" | {{color2|{{yellow color dark}}|Pokémon Yellow Version|Y}}
! style="background:#{{firered color}}" | {{color2|{{firered color dark}}|Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen Versions|FR}}
! style="background:#{{leafgreen color}}" | {{color2|{{leafgreen color dark}}|Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen Versions|LG}}
! style="background:#{{gold color}}" | {{color2|{{gold color dark}}|Pokémon Gold and Silver Versions|G}}
! style="background:#{{silver color}}" | {{color2|{{silver color dark}}|Pokémon Gold and Silver Versions|S}}
! style="background:#{{crystal color}}" | {{color2|{{crystal color dark}}|Pokémon Crystal Version|C}}
! style="background:#{{heartgold color}}" | {{color2|{{heartgold color dark}}|Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions|HG}}
! style="background:#{{soulsilver color}}" | {{color2|{{soulsilver color dark}}|Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions|SS}}
! style="background:#{{ruby color}}" | {{color2|{{ruby color dark}}|Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Versions|R}}
! style="background:#{{sapphire color light}}" | {{color2|{{sapphire color dark}}|Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Versions|S}}
! style="background:#{{emerald color}}" | {{color2|{{emerald color dark}}|Pokémon Emerald Version|E}}
! style="background:#{{diamond color}}" | {{color2|{{diamond color dark}}|Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|D}}
! style="background:#{{pearl color}}" | {{color2|{{pearl color dark}}|Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|P}}
! style="background:#{{platinum color}}" | {{color2|{{platinum color dark}}|Pokémon Platinum Version|Pt}}
! style="background:#{{black color}}" | {{color2|{{black color dark}}|Pokémon Black and White Versions|B}}
! style="background:#{{white color}}" | {{color2|{{white color dark}}|Pokémon Black and White Versions|W}}
|- align="center"
! rowspan="3" style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Male}}
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Name}}
| colspan="6" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Red (game)|Red}}
| colspan="5" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Ethan (game)|Ethan}}
| colspan="3" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Brendan (game)|Brendan}}
| colspan="3" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Lucas (game)|Lucas}}
| colspan="2" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Touya (game)|Touya}}
|- style="background:#fff"
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Front}}
| align="center" colspan="3" | [[File:Red main sprite.png]]
| align="center" | [[File:Y Red.png]]
| align="center" colspan="2" | [[File:FRLG Red.png]]
| align="center" colspan="2" | [[File:GS Gold.png]]
| align="center" | [[File:C Gold.png]]
| align="center" colspan="2" | [[File:HGSS Ethan.png]]
| align="center" colspan="2" | [[File:RS Brendan.png]]
| align="center" | [[File:E Brendan.png]]
| align="center" colspan="2" | [[File:DP Lucas.png]]
| align="center" | [[File:Pt Lucas.png]]
| align="center" colspan="2" | [[File:BW Black.png]]
|- style="background:#fff"
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Back}}
| align="center" colspan="3" | [[File:Redback.png]]
| align="center" | [[File:Y_Red_Back.png]]
| align="center" colspan="2" | [[File:FRLG_Red_Back.png]]
| align="center" colspan="3" | [[File:GS_Gold_Back.png]]
| align="center" colspan="2" | [[File:HGSS_Gold_Back.png]]
| align="center" colspan="2" | [[File:RS_Brendan_Back.png]]
| align="center" | [[File:E_Brendan_Back.png]]
| align="center" colspan="2" | [[File:DP_Lucas_Back.png]]
| align="center" | [[File:Pt_Lucas_Back.png]]
| align="center" colspan="2" | [[File:BW_Touya_Back.png]]
|- align="center"
! rowspan="3" style="background:#bebed1; {{roundybl|5px}}" | {{color|000|Female}}
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Name}}
| valign="center" rowspan="3" colspan="4" style="background:#fff" | {{color|000|No female player character}}
| colspan="2" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Leaf (game)|Leaf}}
| align="center" rowspan="3" colspan="2" style="background:#fff" | {{color|000|No female player character}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Kris (game)|Kris}}
| colspan="2" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Lyra (game)|Lyra}}
| colspan="3" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|May (game)|May}}
| colspan="3" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Dawn (game)|Dawn}}
| colspan="2" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Touko (game)|Touko}}
|- style="background:#fff"
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Front}}
| align="center" colspan="2" | [[File:FRLG Leaf.png]]
| align="center" | [[File:C Kris.png]]
| align="center" colspan="2" style="background:#fff" | [[File:HGSS Lyra.png]]
| align="center" colspan="2" | [[File:RS May.png]]
| align="center" | [[File:E May.png]]
| align="center" colspan="2" | [[File:DP Dawn.png]]
| align="center" | [[File:Pt Dawn.png]]
| align="center" colspan="2" | [[File:BW White.png]]
|-
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Back}}
| align="center" colspan="2" style="background:#fff" | [[File:FRLG_Leaf_Back.png]]
| align="center" style="background:#fff" | [[File:C_Kris_Back.png]]
| align="center" colspan="2" style="background:#fff" | [[File:HGSS Kotone Back.png]]
| align="center" style="background:#fff" colspan="2" | [[File:RS_May_Back.png]]
| align="center" style="background:#fff" | [[File:E_May_Back.png]]
| align="center" style="background:#fff" colspan="2" | [[File:DP_Dawn_Back.png]]
| align="center" style="background:#fff;" | [[File:Pt_Dawn_Back.png]]
| align="center" colspan="2" style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" | [[File:BW_Touko_Back.png]]
|}
{{-}}

====Console====
{| align="center" style="background: #88a; {{roundy|10px}} border: 5px solid #88a"
|-
! style="background:#bebed1; {{roundytl|5px}}" | {{color2|000|Region}}
! colspan="3" style="background:#bebed1; {{roundytr|5px}}" | {{color2|000|Orre}}
|-
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color2|000|Pokémon game|Game}}
! style="background:#{{colo color}}" | {{color2|{{colo color dark}}|Pokémon Colosseum|Colo}}
! style="background:#{{xd color}}" | {{color2|{{xd color dark}}|Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness|XD}}
|- align="center"
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Name}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Wes}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Michael}}
|- align="center"
! style="background:#bebed1; {{roundybl|5px}}" | {{color|000|Artwork}}
| style="background:#fff" | [[File:Colosseum Wes 3D.png|60px]]
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" |[[File:Michael.jpg|140px]]
|}
{{-}}

===Side series===
====Card GB series====
{| align="center" style="background: #88a; {{roundy|10px}} border: 5px solid #88a"
|-
! colspan="2" style="background:#bebed1; {{roundytl|5px}};" | {{color2|000|Pokémon game|Game}}
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color2|000|Pokémon Trading Card Game (game)|TCG}}
! style="background:#bebed1; {{roundytr|5px}}" | {{color2|000|Pokémon Card GB2: Here Comes Team GR!|TCG 2}}
|- align="center"
! rowspan="2" style="background:#bebed1" | Male
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Name}}
| colspan="2" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Mark}}
|- align="center"
! style="background:#bebed1" | Sprite
| colspan="2" style="background:#fff" | [[File:TCG1_Mark.png]]
|- align="center"
! rowspan="2" style="background:#bebed1; {{roundybl|5px}}" | {{color|000|Female}}
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Name}}
| rowspan="2" style="background:#fff" | No female player character
| style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Mint}}
|- align="center"
! style="background:#bebed1" | Sprite
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" | [[File:Mint 2.jpg]]
|}
{{-}}

====Stadium series====
{| align="center" style="background: #88a; {{roundy|10px}}; border: 5px solid #88a"
|-
! colspan="2" style="background:#bebed1; {{roundytl|5px}}" | {{color2|000|Pokémon game|Game}}
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color2|000|Pokémon Stadium (Japanese)|Stadium (Japan)}}
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color2|000|Pokémon Stadium (English)|Stadium}}
! style="background:#bebed1; {{roundytr|5px}}" | {{color2|000|Pokémon Stadium 2|Stadium 2}}
|- align="center"
! style="background:#bebed1;" | Male
! style="background:#bebed1;" | Image
| style="background:#fff" | [[File:SJP Player Boy.png]]
| colspan="2" style="background:#fff;" |[[File:S S2 Player Boy.png]]
|- align="center"
! style="background:#bebed1; {{roundybl|5px}}" | Female
! style="background:#bebed1;" | Image
| colspan="2" style="background:#fff" | No female player character
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" |[[File:S2 Player Girl.png]]
|}
{{-}}

====Ranger series====
{| align="center" style="background: #88a; {{roundy|10px}} border: 5px solid #88a"
|-
! colspan="2" style="background:#bebed1; {{roundytl|5px}}" | {{color2|000|Region}}
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color2|000|Fiore}}
! colspan="3" style="background:#bebed1" | {{color2|000|Almia}}
! colspan="2" style="background:#bebed1; {{roundytr|5px}}" | {{color2|000|Oblivia}}
|-
! colspan="2" style="background:#bebed1" | {{color2|000|Pokémon game|Game}}
! style="background:#{{ranger color}}" | {{color2|{{ranger color dark}}|Pokémon Ranger (game)|Ranger}}
! colspan="3" style="background:#{{SoA color}}" | {{color2|{{SoA color dark}}|Pokémon Ranger: Shadows of Almia|Shadows of Almia}}
! colspan="2" style="background:#{{GS color}}" | {{color2|{{GS color dark}}|Pokémon Ranger: Guardian Signs|Guardian Signs}}
|- align="center"
! rowspan="3" style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Male}}
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Name}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Lunick}}
| colspan="3" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Kellyn}}
| colspan="2" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Ben (Ranger)|Ben}}
|- align="center"
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Front}}
| style="background:#fff" | [[File:Ra Lunick f.png]]
| style="background:#fff" | [[File:Soa Kellyn st f.png]]
| style="background:#fff" | [[File:Soa Kellyn ra f.png]]
| style="background:#fff" | [[File:Soa Kellyn top f.png]]
| colspan="2" style="background:#fff" | [[File:Lol Natsuya f.png]]
|- align="center"
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Back}}
| style="background:#fff" | [[File:Ra Lunick b.png]]
| style="background:#fff" | [[File:Soa Kellyn st b.png]]
| style="background:#fff" | [[File:Soa Kellyn ra b.png]]
| style="background:#fff" | [[File:Soa Kellyn top b.png]]
| style="background:#fff" | [[File:Lol Natsuya b.png]]
| style="background:#fff" | [[File:Lol Natsuya b w.png]]
|- align="center"
! rowspan="3" style="background:#bebed1; {{roundybl|5px}}" | {{color|000|Female}}
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Name}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Solana}}
| colspan="3" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Kate (Ranger)|Kate}}
| colspan="2" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Summer (Ranger)|Summer}}
|- align="center"
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Front}}
| style="background:#fff" | [[File:Ra Solana f.png]]
| style="background:#fff" | [[File:Soa Kate st f.png]]
| style="background:#fff" | [[File:Soa Kate ra f.png]]
| style="background:#fff" | [[File:Soa Kate top f.png]]
| colspan="2" style="background:#fff" | [[File:Lol Minami f.png]]
|- align="center"
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Back}}
| style="background:#fff" | [[File:Ra Solana b.png]]
| style="background:#fff" | [[File:Soa Kate st b.png]]
| style="background:#fff" | [[File:Soa Kate ra b.png]]
| style="background:#fff" | [[File:Soa Kate top b.png]]
| style="background:#fff" | [[File:Lol Minami b.png]]
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" | [[File:Lol Minami b w.png]]
|}
{{-}}

====Mystery Dungeon series====
:''See: [[Starter Pokémon#Pokémon World|Starter Pokémon]]''

===Others===
{| align="center" style="background: #88a; {{roundy|10px}} border: 5px solid #88a"
|-
! style="background:#bebed1; {{roundytl|5px}}" | {{color2|000|Pokémon game|Game}}
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color2|000|Pokémon Snap|Snap}}
! style="background:#bebed1; {{roundytr|5px}}" | {{color2|000|Pokémon Trozei!|Trozei}}
|- align="center"
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Name}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Todd Snap|Todd}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Lucy Fleetfoot|Lucy}}
|- align="center"
! style="background:#bebed1; {{roundybl|5px}}" | {{color|000|Image}}
| style="background:#fff" | [[File:Toddsnap.png|140px]]
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" |[[File:LucyFleetfoot.gif|140px]]
|}
{{-}}

==In the anime==
In the {{pkmn|anime}}, five of the player characters have been given major roles, three of them in the main anime series. {{Ash}} and [[Ritchie]] represent {{ga|Red}} (their game counterpart), being based on him in appearance as well as basic history. At the beginning of {{series2|Advanced Generation}}, {{an|May}} was introduced in order to better represent [[Generation III]] to viewers, as both [[Misty]] and [[Brock]] are characters native to [[Generation I]]. Likewise, at the beginning of the {{series|Diamond & Pearl}}, {{an|Dawn}} joined Ash.

{{jo|Jimmy}} and {{jo|Marina}} appeared in ''[[The Legend of Thunder!]]'' special, taking a similar role to Ash and his companions, fighting [[Team Rocket]] members to protect [[legendary Pokémon]]. While the protagonists of [[Generation II]] were not represented in Ash's party, these two filled the roles as the anime counterparts to {{ga|Ethan}} and {{ga|Kris}}.

{{an|Lyra}} appears in ''[[DP143|An Egg Scramble!]]'', and joins the group for a brief time.

So far, {{ga|Brendan}} has only made a few select cameo appearances at the begin of some of the [[Pokémon movie|movies]], while {{ga|Lucas}} made a cameo at the beginning of ''[[M11|Giratina and the Sky Warrior]]'' battling {{ga|Brendan}}. {{ga|Ethan}} also appears with a second counterpart at the beginning of ''[[M13|Zoroark: Master of Illusions]]''.

Neither of the Generation V player characters have yet been seen in the anime.

==In the manga==
Most of the characters in Pokémon {{pkmn|manga}} are based on player and rival characters from the main series, with {{adv|Red}} being based on his game counterpart. This is also the case for his two fellow Kanto [[Pokédex Holder]]s, and the same applies for nearly all other main characters in the series; {{adv|Gold}}, for example, is based on the then-unnamed player character Ethan. However, because the [[Pokémon Yellow Version|Yellow version]], the fourth installment to the first generation, gave no additional protagonists, {{adv|Yellow}} was created, revealed to have been the girl Red rescued in the [[Viridian Forest]] before his battle with [[Giovanni]]. {{adv|Emerald}} is another cognate case, as in the entirety of [[Generation III]], only two player characters were given. [[Wally]], the closest thing to a third main character, was dropped in favor of this new character designed entirely from scratch. As of the [[Diamond & Pearl chapter (Adventures)|DP]] and [[Platinum chapter (Adventures)|Platinum chapters]], only the first ten main characters have met each other, as none of the Sinnoh Dex Holders have ventured out of their region.

Additionally, though {{ga|Lyra}} is almost universally accepted as a different character from {{ga|Kris}}, rather than a redesign like Ethan, {{Adv|Crystal}} has appeared wearing her clothes to serve as a counterpart, rather than introducing a second [[Johto]] female protagonist for the {{chap|HeartGold & SoulSilver}}.

==Trivia==
* None of the male player characters from the [[main series]] have encountered {{Ash}}, the main character from the [[Pokémon anime]]. Ash has only met male characters from side games, like {{ga|Pokémon Ranger}}. [[Jimmy (Johto)|One counterpart of a male player character]] has met Ash, however, in the thirteenth movie.
*{{ga|Red}}'s dialogue during his appearance as a {{tt|NPC|Non-player character}} in {{3v2|Gold|Silver|Crystal}} and their {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver|remakes}}, reflects to the games' player characters' status as silent protagonists.
*{{ga|Leaf}} is the only player character from the [[main series]], to not have been adapted in the anime through a cameo appearance or a counterpart.
*The list of default names per gender generally repeats{{tt|*|starting in Pokémon Crystal}} from game to game. Exceptions to this are character-specific names, which are names unique to a character, usually references to the title or aspects of the game.
* Until [[Generation V]], the given Japanese names of the male player characters in the main series games(as NPCs) all end in ''ki'' ('''キ'''). This excludes Red's appearance in Generations II and IV, as he is not a player character during the games when he is an NPC. Inclusively, Lunick's Japanese name also ends in ''ki''.

{{Player characters}}
[[Category:Game characters]]
[[Category:Playable characters|*]]

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Talk:M13

2010-12-18T20:23:28Z

Pocketfanmk: /* Jimmy or Ethan */

==Who is Z?==
Does anybody know here who this so-called ''Phantom Ruler Z'' is? [[User:Mamoswine Gliscor|MamoswineGliscor]] 02:50, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
:No. The movie isn't even close to being out yet. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 02:52, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
::It's a movie not a username. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 02:53, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
:::Probably a Gen V Pokémon, knowing how the past three movies have released an initial title, and then later revealed a "new" (event) Pokémon from DPPt... considering there's no more right now... we may have the beginning of Gen V on our hands. However, no matter what I think, no speculation please. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:14, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
ok so it has been confirmed http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k188/y2kpikachu12/uyygjg.jpg this pokemon is pokemon z {{unsigned|Ayotui}}
:In case anyone is wondering, Zoroark is Z. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 14:56, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
::Should that go in the article? Until it's confirmed(even though it's obvious) it's technically speculation.--[[user:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] We lie in wait...... 15:03, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
:::It '''''is''''' confirmed. I think it should go in. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 15:04, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
Is it just me or is Zorark totally Kickass
:It was never confirmed that ''Z''oroark is Z. ''That'' is still speculation. Obvious, yes. Confirmed, no.--[[user:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] We lie in wait...... 15:15, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
:: It '''is''' confirmed. See the logo:
http://i48.tinypic.com/i1hc01.png
::[[User:Santer|Santer]] 15:51, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
Z is probobly [[Zoroark]] considering [[Zoroark]] is the star of the movie & its name starts with a Z. ({{u|Munchy Lax}}) 20:49, 3 June 2010 (EST)
:::It was confirmed. Please also note the date the last comment was put in this discussion. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 00:52, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

== How is there already ratings? ==
Especially for Australia?--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 04:43, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
:Yeah, when were they confirmed? '''[[User:CuboneKing|Cubone]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]]''' ([[User talk:CuboneKing|Planet Cubone]] • [[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|Bone Club]]) 04:55, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
::I don't know if I can edit it.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 04:56, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
:::I can. '''[[User:CuboneKing|Cubone]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]]''' ([[User talk:CuboneKing|Planet Cubone]] • [[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|Bone Club]]) 04:58, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
::::Did I leave one in there? My bad. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:12, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

== Lugia and Ho-oh ==

Is this the same movie that has the battle between Lugia and Ho-oh in it? [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 13:48, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
:Though Lugia and Ho-oh were not showed in this particular trailer, the image of them battling still remains on the official movie website, so yeah it's the same... Lugia and Ho-oh's roles just aren't known yet ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 14:00, 11 December 2009 (UTC))
So, why don't we list those two Pokémon, and take out that last trivia fact? They're going to be there; absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. The teaser showed them, and that's that.--[[User:Skulblaka Shurtugal|Skulblaka Shurtugal]] 23:17, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
:I point to Palkia in movie 11. It was on the first poster and, oh look, not in the movie. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:39, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
::Well, being in the first poster is a bit different from being in first teaser, in my opinion. There were other movies which posters contained Pokémon that not participated in the movie itself. [[Jirachi: Wish Maker]] for example, with {{AP|Treecko}} and {{TP|Brock|Mudkip}}. However, it may be better to wait further information. -- [[User:RikkiKitsune|R<s>ikki</s>]][[User talk:RikkiKitsune|Kitsune]] 16:29, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
:::Either way, it'll be out in July. We'll find out more before then, but that's gonna be when our answer is. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 10:01, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
Come to think of it, there were loads of Pokémon on the Mewtwo Strikes Back poster that weren't in the movie. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 15:59, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
::::I suspect that the two of them are going to appear in the opening sequence of the movie, like how most of the Legendaries have appeared in the introductions of the most recent movies.--[[User:Webspidrman|Webspidrman]] 03:10, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

== Diamond And Pearl? ==

Why Is This Classed As A Diamond And Pearl Series? Surely It Should Be In The Heart Gold And Soul Silver Series. Anyone Agree? After All The DP Trilogy Ended If I Remember Rightly! --[[User:Manaphy1|Manaphy1]] 16:29, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
:No. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 16:32, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
::No confirmation has been made about any new series, or about the DP series ending. Plus, if I'm not mistaken, the DP series logo is used on the movie website. May I remind you that the Battle Frontier seasons were in the same series as the Hoenn seasons? I don't think it's likely they'll create a new series for HGSS. Possible, but not likely. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 16:34, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
:::I highly, HIGHLY doubt they're creating a HGSS series; they're about to give DP a new opening theme! So yes, this will most definitely be a DP movie. (Also way to make my first reply look totally unhelpful, Buzz{{tt|.|...okay, so it was unhelpful, but still}} [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 16:52, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
::::It's still the DP series, just like how AG didn't become a FRLG series or an Emerald series. We have a different colorscheme for Battle Frontier, LMM, and PRTOTS because it focuses on the Emerald features, so this has an HGSS colorscheme because it focuses on HGSS's features; likely Season 13 or 14 will, too. Undoubtedly, I'd say, we'll be having Movie 14 be in Johto as well. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:48, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

so its considered to fall in the DPPt series until further notice, that's all to it from now on I suggest.--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 10:58, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
:There is no "DPPt" series. There's the DP series. And it will continue to fall into that series until all eternity, unless they'll decide to start a new series, which is extremely unlikely. Conversation over. Stop talking about it. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 13:41, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
::It's not unlikely. It just won't happen until Gen V. HGSS is Gen IV. As long as Dawn's around, it will be DP. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:38, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
And why couldn't the anime have a hgss series? Original series - gen 1 and 2.Hoenn- gen 3 (ruby and saphire), the battle frontier - fire red and leaf green versions.Sinnoh - gen 4 (Diamond, pearl and platinium), and as hgss came out, the anime will probably follow ash's journey to Johto once more. {{unsigned|Tomas}}
:Oy. You just don't understand what we're talking about. We're not saying the anime won't follow HGSS, of course it will, just that those seasons will still fall into the {{series|Diamond & Pearl}}, in the same way that the Battle Frontier seasons were still a part of the {{series|Advanced Generation}}. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 14:47, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
Well yes, on my understanding they should fall into the DP series.--'''[[wp:Wikipedia|Wiki]]'''[[User:Tomas|''Tomas'']] 16:34, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

== actual name ==

its actually phantom champion Z, its the champion kanji not the ruler, please rename.--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 18:27, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
:It can be translated as champion, but I chose the "ruler" translation instead so as not to cause confusion with the Pokemon League title of Champion. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 18:42, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
No, its not what you think will be confused, bulbapedia should be a reliable source of info not one that goes with whatever we users want so some admin should change the name once and for all.--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 13:55, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
::I don't think you're getting this... Phantom Champion Z is not an "official" name either (It's the one I came up with and Serebii used actually lol... XD ) All three of the translations out there are just fine, and no one is better than the other... At this point we don't know enough about the story or the characters in it to make an accurate judgment of what the proper translation should be, so therefore it should stay "Phantom Ruler Z" until something is revealed that suggests otherwise, which might not even happen because it could be 100% accurate. ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 14:02, 13 December 2009 (UTC))
All right, to either clear up or further confuse the issue, here's what those words are: 
幻影: a vision; a phantom; a ghost; a hallucination. Something that appears real but isn't. 
覇者: ruler; conqueror; winner; champion; titleholder. Either a monarch who rules by force, or the winner in a competition or contest. 
Judging from years past, whatever translation we choose, it will be inaccurate, and it will continue to be used long after better ones are available. --[[User:Murgatroyd|Murgatroyd]] 04:02, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
:Umm... I don't speak Japanese but I did find an online translator. It told me that "幻影の覇者ゾロアーク" means "Champion Zoroark of Illusion". [[User:Spenfen|Spenfen]] 23:18, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
::I do believe that actual people who speak Japanese (from this section: me and Yaminokame) ultimately trump online translators. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 23:37, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

== How do we know his name is The Phantom? ==

I'm curious b/c I don't remember anyone saying anything.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 06:23, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
:Uh what? If you're talking about that pirate guy, he was in movie 9. This likely has nothing to do with him... it's like how there've been ''several'' [[Jimmy|Jimmies]], but only one has encountered {{p|Raikou}}. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 10:00, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
::No, someone added into the article something along the lines of "he is called the Phantom" but it's already been taken care of :p ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 10:04, 15 December 2009 (UTC))
:::Most likely got it from Serebii's jump-to-conclusion that "Meanwhile, Ash meets up with a Phantom Champion, a shadowed character whom looks identical to him." That's not fact yet, Joe.--'''[[User:Immewnity|''Mew'']] [[User talk:Immewnity|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|Immewnity]]''' was here at 21:21, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

== Pokemon A and B...yet again ==

the title says it all, the mystery guessing game is back with the merchandise, A: New Pokemon A. B: New pokemon DP. thats the description of both, I would like some trusted admin to add the information if possible.--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 17:07, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
Ah yes, On feb 15 corocoro will provide a sample of info officially--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 17:18, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
:Actually, that Pokémon A & B thing isn't really important because they are just names of the plush lines. ポケモンぬいぐるみDP (Pokémon Plush DP) and the newer line NEWポケモンぬいぐるみ (NEW Pokémon Plush), so I really don't see much sense in adding that information here :p ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 00:02, 25 January 2010 (UTC))

if such , so what's thhe difference between NEW pokemon and pokemon DP?--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 09:49, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
:[http://www.takaratomy.co.jp/products/pokemon/nuigurumi/newpokemon/index.html NEW Pokemon Plush] and [http://www.takaratomy.co.jp/products/pokemon/nuigurumi/nuigurumi-dp/index.html Pokemon Plush DP] are just different names of the lines, I'm not really sure why they did it, they just did :/ [[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 10:01, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

==New Movie Pokémon==
[http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f299/PKIM82/13pb.jpg New merchandise] shows Lugia, Ho-oh and Mightyena. --[[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] 06:11, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
:Should that image be added to the article?--[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 06:19, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
::No, that image will not be added. We need a full, high quality picture. (by: [[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang]][[User talk:Ruixiang95|''95'']]) 10:26, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
::Save it for beta article maybe. [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 14:58, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
:::beta article for the movie? [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 15:00, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
::::Gen. V game. They might change something about this Pokémon before the release of the game or the movie. [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 15:06, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

==Mismagius & Shuppet?==

In the latest scans from CoroCoro it showed {{AP|Pikachu}} and [[Dawn's Piplup|Piplup]] fighting a {{p|Shuppet}} and {{p|Mismagius}}. [[User:Roryrules123|Roryrules123]] 15:31 10 February 2010

== Zorua and Zororak ==

Should they be added to the Featured Pokémon and Pokémon sections? --[[User:Kimori-Hinoarashi|i herd u liek Treakos?]] 18:07, 10 February 2010 (UTC) [[User:Kimori-Hinoarashi|Kimori-]][[User talk:Kimori-Hinoarashi|Hinoarashi]]
:Well, seeing as they would be red links, i'm going to guess no. [[User:ShinyPikachu|Shiny]] [[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']] 20:48, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
:: i would refer you [[Template:Main Page/Message from the Editor|here]] —[[User:Lord mada|Mada-sama]] ([[User talk:Lord mada|Talk to me!]])— 22:56, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Zoroark should at least be added. It's in the movie. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 02:17, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
:::: We might add to the trivia that this is the second time a featured Poké has been a non-legendary with a prevo that were introduced before a generation's release. Slightly signifigant. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 03:20, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
I understand adding Zoroark, but did the Coro scan say that Zoroa would be in it as well?[[User:Morgil27|Morgil27]] 16:52, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
::::: Apparently, since both Serebiinet and Bulbapedia say so. --[[User:Kimori-Hinoarashi|i herd u liek Treakos?]] 19:42, 11 February 2010 (UTC) [[User:Kimori-Hinoarashi|Kimori-]][[User talk:Kimori-Hinoarashi|Hinoarashi]]

Question, should Zororak be mentioned in the plot summery as being involved in someway? Reason being his name is in the TITLE for crying out loud, we can automatically say from that that Zororak will play a role in the plot can't we? --[[User:Superx|Superx]] 02:54, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

==English title==
Why is there an english title already up on this page, even if it's in invisibility tags? --[[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] 05:15, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
:Rumored title I think. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 13:16, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
::Because if it's hidden, who cares? It's there because something should be. And because, der, this is just LMM redux. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 13:31, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

== Add debut section ==

I was just reading over the article, and I noticed that it doesn't have a debuts section for Zorua and Zoroark. Is this a mistake, or did I miss something and movies don't have debut sections? Spenfen
:The last one does't have a debut section but the one before that does so I'm assuming that this one doesn't have a debut section yet. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 01:49, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
:: I think the debut section gets left off until we know all of the Pokémon that are going to debut. It seems highly likely that more Gen V Pokémon are going to be in the movie. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 23:18, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

== Possible Answer to Who the "Dark" version of Ash in Trailer? ==

The name of the movie is Phantom Ruler(or Champion)Z and Zoroark is known as the Illusionary Fox Pokémon, right? Is it possible that Zoroark created an illusion of Ash and tries to take over as a ruler of some sort? Just a thought. {{unsigned|Legendary Catcher}}

:It is reasonable that Zoroark actually created the illusion of Dark/Evil Ash. --[[User:Icecreamy 1234|Icecreamy 1234]] 20:54, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
::Please go to the forums for this... --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 22:11, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

== Zorua ==

How do we know that Zoroua is in the movie and it is NOT mentioned? -[[User:?????|Full of Questions]] [[User talk:?????|Man.... I am.]]
:What do you mean? corocoro said that it was in the movie (ゾロアークの進化前の姿でもあるゾロアもスクリーンで一足先に大暴れ！) and it's on the page, I'm not sure what you're asking/wanting done? ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 04:01, 14 February 2010 (UTC))
::Did CoroCoro say that ''both'' Zoroark and Zoroua are in the movie, or ''only'' Zoroark? '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 04:16, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Yes, that Japanese quote clearly states that they will BOTH be in the movie. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 04:17, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
::::Just making sure. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 04:24, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

== Logo ==
[[File:Japanese Movie 13 Logo.png|thumb|right|The Japanese logo, containing Zoroark's name.]]

== Trivia worthy? ==

the movie will premiere on July 10, the legend of thunder part 2 aired on July 10 in the u.s. So yay or nay?--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 03:01, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
:I'd say 'Nay'. It is trivia but its not very interesting and I don't think it was on purpose. Oh and try to focus edits on the '''''main article''''' rather than trivia. Thank you. --'''[[User:Landfish7| Land]][[User talk:Landfish7|fish]]'''7 15:30, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Can someone change the trivia section? Technically the Legendary Beasts aren't in this movie or won't be until they are confirmed since the ones in the trailer are illusions.

== New poster for the M13 ==

This is a new poster from Movie13 "[[Arceus (Pokémon)|☆]][[User:AngelGuardian|Angel]][[User talk:AngelGuardian|Guardian]][[Arceus: To A Conquering Space-Time|☆]]" 09:34, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
"[[Arceus (Pokémon)|☆]][[User:AngelGuardian|Angel]][[User talk:AngelGuardian|Guardian]][[Arceus: To A Conquering Space-Time|☆]]" 09:34, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
[[Image:Poster.png]]

:Here is the poster alone. Someone could go ahead and delete that previous picture.–'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 14:36, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
[[File:Movie13poster1.png]]

The problem is.. there's still some text visible.. at the lower part of the image. hope someone can fix that "[[Arceus (Pokémon)|☆]][[User:AngelGuardian|Angel]][[User talk:AngelGuardian|Guardian]][[Arceus: To A Conquering Space-Time|☆]]" 13:12, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

== NEW INFO! ==

just got a link to some image from the movie!

http://www.filb.de/forum/showthread.php?t=3606 ([[User:Ataro|Hg/Ss come out already!]] 00:14, 4 March 2010 (UTC))

== Dark Ash IS indeed Zoroark ==

It's proven on the new official trailer. See it on Serebii - [[User:050294|050294]] 01:20, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
:More like see it on Filb. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:35, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

== About darker Ash ==

I have concluded something. In the latest trailer on Flib, Zoroark is shown transforming into Ash. However, the "Zoroark Ash" is not shadowed. I think it was just the shadow of the tree Zoroark was standing by. We should make sure there is no confusion there. [[User:Spenfen|Spenfen]] 01:40, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
:Does it really matter? Please take it to the forums. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 01:44, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

== Ninjask... ==

...is to be seen in the movie. Please add it. - [[User:050294|050294]] 05:49, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

We can add Ninjask because it resembles those of Zero's Magnet Family.. multiples "[[Arceus (Pokémon)|☆]][[User:AngelGuardian|Angel]][[User talk:AngelGuardian|Guardian]][[Arceus: To A Conquering Space-Time|☆]]" 13:47, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

== Another one ==

Another poster was shown from the Pokémon Sunday..

[[Image:M13 poster.jpg|thumb|The New Poster for M13]]

.. can we change the current pic.. ? "[[Arceus (Pokémon)|☆]][[User:AngelGuardian|Angel]][[User talk:AngelGuardian|Guardian]][[Arceus: To A Conquering Space-Time|☆]]" 13:44, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

[[:a:File:Ruler of Illusions Zoroark.png|Here]]. [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 11:10, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

== Will Entei and Lugia talk? ==

They talked in the previous movies. Will they talk again in this one?

[[Dan Green]] Entei FTW. {{unsigned|Attack Kitty}}
:Entei only talked in the third movie because he was created by Molly's imagination and she wanted him to talk. But it's possible that Lugia could talk, but if this is the case then they'll probably have to make Ho-oh talk as well, otherwise they wouldn't be "equal". There's a been lots of talking Legendary Pokémon in movies lately, so who knows? [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 21:53, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

::If any Pokémon is going to be talking, it's going to be {{p|Zoroark}}. Of course, this really should be moved to the forums! Thank You! :D --''' Zoroark!!! ''' '''[[User:Landfish7| Land]][[User talk:Landfish7|fish]]'''7 16:13, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

== too early to add Zoroark and Zorua and Celebi? ==

In the voice actor list, we have the beasts, so is it too early to add them? - ''unsigned comment from {{u|Midnight Blue}} ([[User talk:Midnight Blue|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Midnight Blue|contribs]]) ''

== Why is this page not updated? ==

Wow, the admins are slow, lol. The website Pokébeach has the plot somewhat revealed, all true as the info is from the official Pokemon website. Here it is:

Info (From the new trailer):

[[Ash]] and crew visit {{red link|Crown City}} to watch the Pokemon Backer World Cup. On their trip they meet a Pokemon named {{p|Zorua}}, who is searching for its companion; they decide to let it tag along so they can assist it. But a Pokemon named {{p|Zoroark}} - the "Ruler of Illusions" - is turning into {{p|Raikou}}, {{p|Entei}}, and {{p|Suicune}} and destroying Crown City! Also, {{p|Celebi}} returns after 20 years and gets into trouble. What is happening to Crown City? What could the Ruler of Illusion, Zoroark, be? And what about Celebi? Will Ash and {{AP|Pikachu}} be able to save the city and the Pokemon?

Characters:

Kodai (the evil-looking businessman) - He is the president of the giant corporation "Kodai Network." He is called the man who knows the future and is known for his ambition. 
Rioka - She is a cool and intelligent woman. She is Kodai's secretary. 
Kuroto - He is a newspaper reporter from Crown City. He is trying to discover Kodai's secret. 
Zorua - A Pokemon that meets up with Ash and friends as they head toward Crown City. Its specialty is turning into various things. 
Zoroark - A Pokemon with the ability to show illusions. It turns into Raikou, Entei, and Suicune to attack Crown City and drive the people into a panic.

As seen from the following information:
*The [[legendary beasts]] are actually Zoroark; they do not actually appear.
*The new character's indentities are revealed.
*Zoroark is revealed to be an antagonist, though the reason it is is unconfirmed.
*Zorua seems to be good, implying that Zoroark's antagonistic behavior may NOT be normal.
*Kodai seems to be after Celebi and is most likely an antagonist.

Not seen from that text:
*Zorua can {{m|transform}}, as seen in an added scene in the new trailer; it changed into a {{p|Piplup}}

Please, admins, add this vital info! - [[User:050294|050294]] 22:18, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

:Sheesh. ''Another'' illusion Entei? When are we ever going to see the real one? - {{unsigned|Attack Kitty}}
::The real Legendary Beasts could also appear; besides, Zoroark would have to have seen the real thing in order to take on their appearance. I hope the real ones are in it as well, it would be really disappointing if Raikou's first movie appearance was as an illusion, and it's about time we got to see a real Entei! [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 12:26, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
:::Eh... Copying other site's error all the time... This time PokeBeach. The characters name is '''Kurt''', not "Kuroto". If someone decides to start an article, then it will have to be titled as "Kurt (movie)" or something. But I'm completely AGAINST moving [[Kurt]] to "Kurt (Johto)" or something and making a disambig. The games' Kurt is too major to be disambiged with some random movie guy (movie CotDs are still CotDs). So, a headnote to [[Kurt]] article and the movie character page being titled "Kurt (movie)". But it's NOT "Kuroto". --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 12:54, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
::::It's not just copying one other site. The official site for the movie has the same information as well. [[User:Spenfen|Spenfen]] 15:44, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
To [[User:Maxim|Maxim]] and [[User:Taromon777|Taromon]]: This information is DIRECTLY from the official Pokémon website so it IS true. If you read my entire post you'd see me say this. You can also go to the official site itself. - [[User:050294|050294]] 20:30, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
:I'm NOT saying that the info is fake. I just said that the name is romanized wrong. It's Kurt, not "Kuroto". "Kuroto" is apparently an error made by WPM at PokeBeach. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 20:37, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
::When movie Kurt gets moved to his English name (assuming they don't keep it Kurt) we can kill the topbar from Kurt's page. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:49, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

== Cast update ==

Takanori Jin'nai (陣内孝則) has been revealed [http://www.pokemon-movie.jp/news/#100416seiyu here] as playing the voice of Kōdai and Koichi Yamadera (山寺宏一) has been revealed as the voice actor for the character Goon (グーン). Not sure if this is a big enough role to add or not, but Shōko Nakagawa (中川翔子) is Ploof (or however people want to Romanize it) (プルーフ). Can someone please add (at least the first two because they are important characters) those to the 'Cast' chart?.. ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 15:22, 16 April 2010 (UTC))
:I've made pages for Goon and Proof, so what remains is to add them to the cast chart. I also added a character called Joe to the template, but I didn't make a page for him because all that's known is that he has the Mightyena. --[[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] 02:14, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
::Okay, I changed the above to coincide with "Goon" and "Proof". Also, if it helps at all, the person named "Joe" that was mentioned above is [http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/9346/joehw.jpg this person] as shown in the latest trailer. ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 02:52, 23 April 2010 (UTC))
:::Ah, that's him? Too bad there's not a better image of him, or I could make a page for him as well. --[[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] 04:59, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

== Pokémon List Update! ==

Hey guys (more specifically admins), these Pokémon should be added in the list (they were [http://i437.photobucket.com/albums/qq93/adyniz/vlcsnap-2010-04-17-15h23m31s246.png revealed] in the latest trailer).
:Abomasnow, Breloom, Cranidos, Doduo, Furret, Gabite, Garchomp, Grotle, Mamoswine, Nidoking, Nidorina, Nidorino, Piloswine, Rampardos, Raticate, Rattata, Rhyhorn, Rhyperior, Sentret, Skuntank, Snover, Stantler, Staravia, Stunky, Swinub, Teddiursa, Torterra, Ursaring, Vigoroth and Zigzagoon.
:Thank you. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 10:32, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
::I think it's time to update the Pokémon list because the movie has been released already. Thank you. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 15:29, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
:::Nevermind, I forgot about article un-protection. Anyway, I updated the list. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 16:02, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

== Can someone add something ==

TV Tokyo has stated the Diamond and Pearl series is going to conclude in the fall, so is it safe to put in the article that this is going to be the last Diamond and Pearl movie. --'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 18:31, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

== Grammar ==

The wording in the synopsis is a bit misleading, at first glace it looks like it says Zoroark is transforming into Raikou, Entei, Suicune, and Celebi. But the bit about Celebi is a seperate part of the sentence. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 19:43, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

== Pokémon ==
I see the some ninjask in the 3rd trailer and some Beautyfly in the 4th trailer. I also seen in this image [[File:CoroCoro March 2.jpg|300px]] a Missmagius and a Shuppet. Someone should to add them. [[User:Caciulacdlac|Caciulacdlac]]
:For clarification, it appears Mismagius and Shuppet are Kōdai's. --[[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] 06:05, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

== Chinese (Taiwan) title ==

The title in Taiwanese Chinese is '''幻影之霸者索羅亞克'''. The meaning is the same as in Japanese. Can someone add it? [http://www.my-cartoon.com.tw/pokemon/2010movie.htm Official source]. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 14:48, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
:Done. And it's "的", not "之". [[User:神奇超龍|神奇超龍]] 04:44, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

== Cast ==
I'll just copy this from PocketMonsters:

''Koichi Yamadera (山寺宏一) has once again returned to play the part of Gūn (グーン) and Shōko Nakagawa (中川翔子) has returned for her 4th Pocket Monsters movie to play the parts of Proof (プルーフ). Also in attendance were Takanori Jin'nai (陣内孝則) who voices Kōdai (コーダイ), Katō Natsuki (加藤夏希) who voices Rioka and finally Takashi Tsukamoto (塚本高史) who voices Kurt (クルト). '' -- [[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] 02:03, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

== Something to correct in the Trivia section ==

The part where it says "the first time Raikou gets a starring role in a movie" should be referring to ''theatrical'' movies, because of the Legend of Thunder series. (Or at least I think so. Feel free to say why not.)
The only reason I'm not changing it myself is because the page is protected. [[User:Ztobor|Ztobor]] 02:22, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
:As far as I'm aware, ''[[The Legend of Thunder!]]'' is a TV special, as opposed to a full-blown movie. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 02:32, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
::Ah, so it's not considered a movie here? I don't know, I got the terminology from another site, where they distinguish between theatrical movies and "TV movies", which you call TV specials. [[User:Ztobor|Ztobor]] 03:49, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Well, they're called TV Specials here, so this is the first time Raikou gets a starring role in a movie.--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 04:59, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

==Mightyena==
Why is Mightyena still in comments at the Pokémon it is proved it will appear: http://www.pokemon-movie.jp/keyword/ 7th picture [[User:Bigtukker|Bigtukker]] 18:04, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

== Pokémon Baccer ==

Is a sport combining Basketball and Soccer. [[User:Bluesun|Bluesun]] 01:28, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
:And what does that have to do with anything?--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 04:54, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

== When does the movie take place? ==

The trivia states the movie takes place between [[DP183]] and [[DP184]], but that's impossible. During those episodes, the group is at the Sinnoh League. I say we delete that bit of trivia, and wait until later to see when exactly the movie takes place.--[[User:Skulblaka Shurtugal|Skulblaka Shurtugal]] 23:08, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
::we should change it to "released between dp 183 and 184" instead of TAKE PLACE between the 2 episodes. -[[User:Pokeant|Pokeant]] 09:41, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
::::I agree.--[[User:Skulblaka Shurtugal|Skulblaka Shurtugal]] 20:09, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
''bump'' But this doesn't answer the question of when the movie takes place. I'm saying between [[DP178]] and [[DP179]], because all the main characters' Pokémon are present, and they aren't in the middle of some sort of journey. It COULD happen between [[DP189]] and [[DP190]], but the movie premiered almost two months before that, making it unlikely. Opinions, anyone?--[[User:Skulblaka Shurtugal|Long Live Pokémon! --Skulblaka Shurtugal]] 05:15, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
:I think, movie's story line and regular episodes' story line are two different things. Like they never mentioned during [[DP152]] (galactic arc). ''Hey look it's Dialga & Palkia. They look kind of different than those which we saw in the Alamos town.''
:That's the only reason I can see here for premiering the movie in between {{tt|DP183 and 184|So, anime story line doesn't matters. I'm not talking about the entire cast but just storyline}}. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 06:01, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
::What we need to know is which Pokémon Ash, Dawn, Brock and Team Rocket had, and what moves they used. What we currently have is a few Pokémon used by the main characters, but surely that isn't all of them. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 06:12, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
:Dawn has her Togekiss, and Ash has his Infernape, but it doesn't do Fire Blitz--doesn't mean it doesn't know the move, but it COULD mean that. I'm still saying between DP178 and DP179, right before the movie premiered. Unless anybody can object to this, I'm putting that in the main article. --[[User:Skulblaka Shurtugal|Long Live Pokémon! --Skulblaka Shurtugal]] 16:03, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
::That doesn't prove it takes place in between those episodes. I can take place anytime between [[DP177]] and [[DP182]]. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 19:19, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

== Pre-Order / Pre-Purchase Ticket Bonus? ==

So how exactly does the special bonus work? I heard you buy a colored ticket of either blue, red, or yellow and get that associated Legendary Beast. Can someone explain exactly how this works? Would it also work with an English version of the game or is it a Japanese exclusive? Any info on the Shiny Celebi that is also to come out during the movie? I'm in Japan for the next month and I'm trying to figure this stuff out so I can take advantage of it! Thanks in advanced! =) [[User:Stexe|Stexe]] 05:26, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

== Shiny Beasts ==
...confirmed in movie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RcnpUO8Fd0

Watch carefully the clip of Zoroark blowing them away with Night Burst at just past one minute, and you can clearly see a Shiny Entei and a Shiny Raikou with a Shiny Suicune in the background. I do believe this marks the first appearance of Shiny Pokémon in a movie since Ash's Noctowl? --[[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] 04:38, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

== Summary? ==

Why is the summary not updated? The movie is already out, or has no one here yet seen the movie? [[User:Spenfen|Spenfen]] 15:54, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
:People have indeed seen it, just give them time. Not everybody has a lot of time on their hands.--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 15:58, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

== JUST UPDATE THE SUMMARY ==

ANYONE WHO SAW THAT MOVIE UPDATE THE SUMMARY
--VulcanFox 03:03, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
:We don't seem to have any editors who have seen the movie, or if they have, any editors that are willing to write up a summary for it. Can't do it if we can't do it. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 03:06, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
::Once Pokebeach posts a summary, I'll use that to update the summary here. Fair enough?--[[User:Skulblaka Shurtugal|Skulblaka Shurtugal]] 01:41, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

:::stop being so impatient.... you can wait cant you? ([[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 01:46, 21 July 2010 (UTC))
::::No, that's stealing which is not allowed here. So, just wait for someone to post it him/herself. Thank you. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 12:16, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::Just to clear things up, he didn't say he was using the "copy pasta" method. He said he'd use it to update the summary, so it isn't stealing. Now, at the same time, he shouldn't use it because it isn't technically an official source. I'm only saying this so people reading this won't get the wrong idea. --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 21:08, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

== 14th Movie? ==

So, usually after each movie, there's a trailer for the next one, right? Has there been any information about the trailer after this one, yet? [[User:Morgil27|Morgil27]] 05:58, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
:Apparently, {{p|Victini}} appeared and said "see you next year". --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:17, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

::You can find that trailer on the [http://pokemon-movie.jp Official Japanese Pokémon Site] ([[User:Holonboy|Holonboy]] 00:51, 5 November 2010 (UTC))

== English Title & Poster ==
It's about to hit the fan...

http://pokebeach.com/news/1010/master-of-illusions-zoroark.jpg

--[[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] 04:27, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

== Unusual ==

Looking at the poster indicates the movie will only come out in 2011...

However browsing a normal wikipedia page that is about list of pokemon episodes I found that there is a release date of November 12th 2010!

I continue to regard bulbapedia as more reliable than general wikipedia itself, however I wonder if any of you have received any idea or indication whether it is legitimate.... I am already half believing that the date set there on the general wikipedia is misleading.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_episodes#Season_14:_Best_Wishes.21

(Once you go to the page, scroll down to the movies section)

Thanks for replying and assisting us all! {{unsigned|Cyberpedia}}
:Wikipedia? The worst ever source on earth. It's a damn wiki which can be edited by any one, so it's a really bad source. We can never rely on wikipedia until and unless we have an official source. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 15:51, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

== Jimmy or Ethan ==

A user recently changed Jimmy to Ethan. I did revert it, but maybe it is something for us to think about. Is there any proof it was Jimmy? Did he use his Typhlosion or Beedrill? I mean... {{jo|Marina}} and {{an|Lyra}}. Only problem is that Jimmy and Ethan look nearly identical. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 01:15, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
:From what I heard, all he used is his Donphan. But unlike Marina and Lyra, Jimmy and Ethan look too similar to be changed..I guess we'll have to wait for the DVD? [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 01:20, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
::Well, {{ga|Kris}} and {{ga|Lyra}} are different characters, so that's why there is {{jo|Marina}} and {{an|Lyra}}. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 01:27, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
:::Still, I think it's something to look into. It will stay Jimmy for now, and forever if nothing is proven. It probably most likely is Jimmy, but you can never be too sure. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 01:40, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
::::I haven't seen the movie yet, but Jimmy has purple hair, and the part that sticks out of his hat is extremely exaggerated, unlike Ethan's who (from what I've seen in game artwork) has darker hair, and the part is natural looking. Does anyone have screenshots? [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 02:17, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::Nupz, no screenshots. DVD will be available on 17th Dec, so we just have to wait for 3 more days. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 02:19, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::A screenshot of the scene is on the forums... and to be honest, I don't think it looks that much like Jimmy. The hair is a completely different colour and style, and the booklet that came out with the film simply referred to him as 'Trainer'... I'm pretty certain the Donphan trainer ''wasn't'' Jimmy. [[User:Watchermark|Watchermark]] 14:56, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
::::::I'd love to see it. Can you post the link? [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 15:04, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
::::::: http://sunyshore.com/scrap/zoroarkmovie01.png [[User:Watchermark|Watchermark]] 15:32, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Hm, interesting. It doesn't really look all that much like Jimmy. The hair's darker and shorter, especially the bangs. I'm actually not sure if it's Jimmy or not. 0-e [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 15:46, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::Keep in mind that people animating the show, the style and the techonology used by them have all changed greatly since Legend of Thunder. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 15:55, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
(starting over indent) That's exactly why I didn't say I'm convinced it isn't Jimmy, lol. [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 16:12, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
:I said that to everyone. Don't be so selfish. :P --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 16:13, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
::Maybe the style and the tech of the show has changed but character designs rarely do. Marina's didn't... [[User:Watchermark|Watchermark]] 16:20, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
:::I'm not allowed to voice my opinon Maxim? :P But, I'm not sure if it's Jimmy or not, still. The coloring method has changed, so his hair could be darker (like Jessie's). It would be nice to see this from a different angle. Maybe we should wait until a clip comes out? [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 17:57, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
::::http://dogasu.bulbagarden.net/message_boards/kenta_edited.png This image just lists him as "Trainer" so it's probably not him [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 23:13, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::I will never understand the Pokémon anime... --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 09:44, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
::::::It's not something you always want to understand :P Honestly, I have to agree with Watchermark, they didn't change Marina's design and I doubt they would change Jimmy this drastically. It's probably Ethan. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 13:46, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::::I wouldn't put it past them to redesign a character, if only to match the Sugimori artwork. Ash got a redesign just like that with no reason right? [[User:J-J-M|'''J''']]'''-'''[[User talk:J-J-M|'''J''']]'''-'''[[Special:Contributions/J-J-M|'''M''']] 14:22, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Also, whoever he is, this cameo isn't notable of his own article. So, maybe add him into Jimmy's article as a "lookalike" or something (it's not the first time we'd do something like that, is it?). --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 15:02, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::Yeah, put him in Jimmy's article as a lookalike? He should also be put in Ethan's page ala Lucas and Brendan. [[User:Pocketfanmk|Pocketfanmk]] 20:23, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

Player character

2010-12-11T21:07:09Z

Pocketfanmk:

[[Image:RedStart.png|frame|{{ga|Red}}'s [[Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen Versions|Pokémon journey]] is about to begin...]]
A '''player character''' in the world of [[Pokémon]] is the '''protagonist''' of the {{pkmn|games}}. Remarkably [[wp:silent protagonist|silent]], player characters are the avatar of the player; it is left up to the latter to "fill in" what they imagine the character is feeling, thinking and acting, thus immersing the player within the world of the game.

==Philosophy==
The player character is a critical part of the Pokémon games' core. Set in an approximate background, player characters are effectively the players themselves, giving the latter the opportunity to add in their details, color the journey with their views and personality and co-exist with other players. Concurrently, they are the hero of the said myth, the one person to be part of the main events of each game. The twofold nature of the player character gives players the opportunity to choose from several alternatives and distinguish themselves from one another, while at the same time the adventure of the protagonist of the game is being unfolded, with several of the details not being set or standard. Ultimately, the events of the game progress with the player assuming the protagonist's role, while all at once finding themselves in the world of the game as a unique entity.

==Gameplay==
===Main series===
[[File:PlayerCharactersGrouped.png|thumb|320px|The player characters of the main series games (including redesigns)]]

In the mainstream games, the player characters are [[Pokémon Trainer]]s beginning their [[Pokémon journey]]. Usually, they have [[rival]]s who begin their journey at about the same time. They take part in several events, and meet a great number of Pokémon and people during their adventure. At the conclusion of their journey, most will have conquered a [[Pokémon League]]'s eight [[Gym Leader]]s and [[Elite Four]], and become the {{pkmn|Champion}}. Later games offer additional sidequests, although the main plot of the game is propelled by the Pokémon League challenge.

Those who do the above will most often start their journey in their [[hometown]] by getting, or shortly before getting, a [[starter Pokémon]], a Pokémon that appears very early in their native [[region]]'s [[Regional Pokédex|Pokédex]], and is of the {{t|Grass}}-, {{t|Fire}}-, or {{type2|Water}}. The region's native [[Pokémon professor]] will always give them this, as well as a Pokédex.

In {{game|Crystal}}, and each game in the [[main series]] which followed it, players were also able to pick the [[gender]] of the lead, more often than not to match their own.

Aside from the standard that many of the games' player characters take in their journey, there are also several other ways in which other player characters complete their journey, such as [[Wes]] and [[Michael]] who must defeat [[Cipher]] and free all of their [[snagged Pokémon]] from their [[Shadow Pokémon|Shadow state]].

To date, only one player character has reappeared from an older generation in a role other than that of the player. In [[Generation II]] and {{gen|IV}}, when {{ga|Ethan}} or {{ga|Kris}}/{{ga|Lyra}} travels to [[Mt. Silver]] and reaches the deepest point of the cave, {{ga|Red}} is found, utterly silent as he was under the player's control. At the time of these games' respective releases, [[Red's Pikachu]] was the highest-leveled Pokémon owned by an in-game Trainer ({{ga|Barry}}'s fully evolved starter Pokémon temporarily surpassed the standard set in Gold and Silver until the release of their remakes, HeartGold and SoulSilver).

===Side series===
In the {{ga|Pokémon Ranger}} series, [[Solana]], [[Lunick]], [[Kellyn]], {{ra|Kate}}, {{ra|Ben}} and {{ra|Summer}} are not Pokémon Trainers, but instead {{OBP|Pokémon Ranger|Ranger series}}s. They use the Pokémon they have captured with the [[Capture Styler]] to help them along the way. They also have [[partner Pokémon]] that follow them wherever they go.

In the [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon|Mystery Dungeon series]], players play as actual Pokémon for the first time. Unlike most other Pokémon games, the player actually talks, but is given pre-generated phrases to say to questions.

In the Card GB series, [[Mark]] and [[Mint]] do not use actual Pokémon themselves, but cards instead.

Three unnamed player characters appear in [[Pokémon Stadium series]]. Japanese-only [[Pokémon Stadium (Japanese)|Pokémon Stadium]] featured one boy character, whose design was likely based on {{ga|Red}}. However, for [[Pokémon Stadium|the sequel]] a brand new boy character has been created. This player has also made it to [[Pokémon Stadium 2]], where he was given a female counterpart. She appears when a player uses a [[Pokémon Crystal]] Game Pak with the girl chosen in the saved game. Like the main series player characters, these three remain silent throughout the games.

===Others===
In {{g|Snap}}, [[Todd Snap]] must strive for something different from Trainers. He must capture all the Pokémon on [[Pokémon Island]] — on film.

In [[Pokémon Trozei!]], the main protagonist is [[Lucy Fleetfoot]]. All the player has to do is tap the stage and Lucy accesses it. The player then plays the stage.

==Images==

===Main series===

====Handheld====
{| align="center" style="background: #88a; {{roundy|10px}} border: 5px solid #88a"
|-
! colspan="2" style="background:#bebed1; {{roundytl|5px}}" | {{color2|000|Region}}
! colspan="6" style="background:#{{kanto color light}}" | {{color2|{{kanto color dark}}|Kanto}}
! colspan="5" style="background:#{{johto color light}}" | {{color2|{{johto color dark}}|Johto}}
! colspan="3" style="background:#{{hoenn color light}}" | {{color2|{{hoenn color dark}}|Hoenn}}
! colspan="3" style="background:#{{sinnoh color light}}" | {{color2|{{sinnoh color dark}}|Sinnoh}}
! colspan="2" style="background:#{{unova color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | {{color2|{{unova color dark}}|Unova}}
|-
! colspan="2" style="background:#bebed1" | {{color2|000|Pokémon game|Game}}
! style="background:#{{red color}}" | {{color2|{{red color dark}}|Pokémon Red and Blue Versions|R}}
! style="background:#{{green color}}" | {{color2|{{green color dark}}|Pokémon Red and Green Versions|G}}
! style="background:#{{blue color}}" | {{color2|{{blue color dark}}|Pokémon Blue Version (Japanese)|B}}
! style="background:#{{yellow color}}" | {{color2|{{yellow color dark}}|Pokémon Yellow Version|Y}}
! style="background:#{{firered color}}" | {{color2|{{firered color dark}}|Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen Versions|FR}}
! style="background:#{{leafgreen color}}" | {{color2|{{leafgreen color dark}}|Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen Versions|LG}}
! style="background:#{{gold color}}" | {{color2|{{gold color dark}}|Pokémon Gold and Silver Versions|G}}
! style="background:#{{silver color}}" | {{color2|{{silver color dark}}|Pokémon Gold and Silver Versions|S}}
! style="background:#{{crystal color}}" | {{color2|{{crystal color dark}}|Pokémon Crystal Version|C}}
! style="background:#{{heartgold color}}" | {{color2|{{heartgold color dark}}|Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions|HG}}
! style="background:#{{soulsilver color}}" | {{color2|{{soulsilver color dark}}|Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions|SS}}
! style="background:#{{ruby color}}" | {{color2|{{ruby color dark}}|Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Versions|R}}
! style="background:#{{sapphire color light}}" | {{color2|{{sapphire color dark}}|Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Versions|S}}
! style="background:#{{emerald color}}" | {{color2|{{emerald color dark}}|Pokémon Emerald Version|E}}
! style="background:#{{diamond color}}" | {{color2|{{diamond color dark}}|Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|D}}
! style="background:#{{pearl color}}" | {{color2|{{pearl color dark}}|Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|P}}
! style="background:#{{platinum color}}" | {{color2|{{platinum color dark}}|Pokémon Platinum Version|Pt}}
! style="background:#{{black color}}" | {{color2|{{black color dark}}|Pokémon Black and White Versions|B}}
! style="background:#{{white color}}" | {{color2|{{white color dark}}|Pokémon Black and White Versions|W}}
|- align="center"
! rowspan="3" style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Male}}
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Name}}
| colspan="6" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Red (game)|Red}}
| colspan="5" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Ethan (game)|Ethan}}
| colspan="3" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Brendan (game)|Brendan}}
| colspan="3" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Lucas (game)|Lucas}}
| colspan="2" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Touya (game)|Touya}}
|- style="background:#fff"
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Front}}
| align="center" colspan="3" | [[File:Red main sprite.png]]
| align="center" | [[File:Y Red.png]]
| align="center" colspan="2" | [[File:FRLG Red.png]]
| align="center" colspan="2" | [[File:GS Gold.png]]
| align="center" | [[File:C Gold.png]]
| align="center" colspan="2" | [[File:HGSS Ethan.png]]
| align="center" colspan="2" | [[File:RS Brendan.png]]
| align="center" | [[File:E Brendan.png]]
| align="center" colspan="2" | [[File:DP Lucas.png]]
| align="center" | [[File:Pt Lucas.png]]
| align="center" colspan="2" | [[File:BW Black.png]]
|- style="background:#fff"
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Back}}
| align="center" colspan="3" | [[File:Redback.png]]
| align="center" | [[File:Y_Red_Back.png]]
| align="center" colspan="2" | [[File:FRLG_Red_Back.png]]
| align="center" colspan="3" | [[File:GS_Gold_Back.png]]
| align="center" colspan="2" | [[File:HGSS_Gold_Back.png]]
| align="center" colspan="2" | [[File:RS_Brendan_Back.png]]
| align="center" | [[File:E_Brendan_Back.png]]
| align="center" colspan="2" | [[File:DP_Lucas_Back.png]]
| align="center" | [[File:Pt_Lucas_Back.png]]
| align="center" colspan="2" | [[File:BW_Touya_Back.png]]
|- align="center"
! rowspan="3" style="background:#bebed1; {{roundybl|5px}}" | {{color|000|Female}}
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Name}}
| valign="center" rowspan="3" colspan="4" style="background:#fff" | {{color|000|No female player character}}
| colspan="2" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Leaf (game)|Leaf}}
| align="center" rowspan="3" colspan="2" style="background:#fff" | {{color|000|No female player character}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Kris (game)|Kris}}
| colspan="2" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Lyra (game)|Lyra}}
| colspan="3" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|May (game)|May}}
| colspan="3" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Dawn (game)|Dawn}}
| colspan="2" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Touko (game)|Touko}}
|- style="background:#fff"
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Front}}
| align="center" colspan="2" | [[File:FRLG Leaf.png]]
| align="center" | [[File:C Kris.png]]
| align="center" colspan="2" style="background:#fff" | [[File:HGSS Lyra.png]]
| align="center" colspan="2" | [[File:RS May.png]]
| align="center" | [[File:E May.png]]
| align="center" colspan="2" | [[File:DP Dawn.png]]
| align="center" | [[File:Pt Dawn.png]]
| align="center" colspan="2" | [[File:BW White.png]]
|-
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Back}}
| align="center" colspan="2" style="background:#fff" | [[File:FRLG_Leaf_Back.png]]
| align="center" style="background:#fff" | [[File:C_Kris_Back.png]]
| align="center" colspan="2" style="background:#fff" | [[File:HGSS Kotone Back.png]]
| align="center" style="background:#fff" colspan="2" | [[File:RS_May_Back.png]]
| align="center" style="background:#fff" | [[File:E_May_Back.png]]
| align="center" style="background:#fff" colspan="2" | [[File:DP_Dawn_Back.png]]
| align="center" style="background:#fff;" | [[File:Pt_Dawn_Back.png]]
| align="center" colspan="2" style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" | [[File:BW_Touko_Back.png]]
|}
{{-}}

====Console====
{| align="center" style="background: #88a; {{roundy|10px}} border: 5px solid #88a"
|-
! style="background:#bebed1; {{roundytl|5px}}" | {{color2|000|Region}}
! colspan="3" style="background:#bebed1; {{roundytr|5px}}" | {{color2|000|Orre}}
|-
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color2|000|Pokémon game|Game}}
! style="background:#{{colo color}}" | {{color2|{{colo color dark}}|Pokémon Colosseum|Colo}}
! style="background:#{{xd color}}" | {{color2|{{xd color dark}}|Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness|XD}}
|- align="center"
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Name}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Wes}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Michael}}
|- align="center"
! style="background:#bebed1; {{roundybl|5px}}" | {{color|000|Artwork}}
| style="background:#fff" | [[File:Colosseum Wes 3D.png|60px]]
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" |[[File:Michael.jpg|140px]]
|}
{{-}}

===Side series===
====Card GB series====
{| align="center" style="background: #88a; {{roundy|10px}} border: 5px solid #88a"
|-
! colspan="2" style="background:#bebed1; {{roundytl|5px}};" | {{color2|000|Pokémon game|Game}}
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color2|000|Pokémon Trading Card Game (game)|TCG}}
! style="background:#bebed1; {{roundytr|5px}}" | {{color2|000|Pokémon Card GB2: Here Comes Team GR!|TCG 2}}
|- align="center"
! rowspan="2" style="background:#bebed1" | Male
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Name}}
| colspan="2" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Mark}}
|- align="center"
! style="background:#bebed1" | Sprite
| colspan="2" style="background:#fff" | [[File:TCG1_Mark.png]]
|- align="center"
! rowspan="2" style="background:#bebed1; {{roundybl|5px}}" | {{color|000|Female}}
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Name}}
| rowspan="2" style="background:#fff" | No female player character
| style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Mint}}
|- align="center"
! style="background:#bebed1" | Sprite
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" | [[File:Mint 2.jpg]]
|}
{{-}}

====Stadium series====
{| align="center" style="background: #88a; {{roundy|10px}}; border: 5px solid #88a"
|-
! colspan="2" style="background:#bebed1; {{roundytl|5px}}" | {{color2|000|Pokémon game|Game}}
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color2|000|Pokémon Stadium (Japanese)|Stadium (Japan)}}
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color2|000|Pokémon Stadium|Stadium}}
! style="background:#bebed1; {{roundytr|5px}}" | {{color2|000|Pokémon Stadium 2|Stadium 2}}
|- align="center"
! style="background:#bebed1;" | Male
! style="background:#bebed1;" | Image
| style="background:#fff" | [[File:SJP Player Boy.png]]
| colspan="2" style="background:#fff;" |[[File:S S2 Player Boy.png]]
|- align="center"
! style="background:#bebed1; {{roundybl|5px}}" | Female
! style="background:#bebed1;" | Image
| colspan="2" style="background:#fff" | No female player character
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" |[[File:S2 Player Girl.png]]
|}
{{-}}

====Ranger series====
{| align="center" style="background: #88a; {{roundy|10px}} border: 5px solid #88a"
|-
! colspan="2" style="background:#bebed1; {{roundytl|5px}}" | {{color2|000|Region}}
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color2|000|Fiore}}
! colspan="3" style="background:#bebed1" | {{color2|000|Almia}}
! colspan="2" style="background:#bebed1; {{roundytr|5px}}" | {{color2|000|Oblivia}}
|-
! colspan="2" style="background:#bebed1" | {{color2|000|Pokémon game|Game}}
! style="background:#{{ranger color}}" | {{color2|{{ranger color dark}}|Pokémon Ranger (game)|Ranger}}
! colspan="3" style="background:#{{SoA color}}" | {{color2|{{SoA color dark}}|Pokémon Ranger: Shadows of Almia|Shadows of Almia}}
! colspan="2" style="background:#{{GS color}}" | {{color2|{{GS color dark}}|Pokémon Ranger: Guardian Signs|Guardian Signs}}
|- align="center"
! rowspan="3" style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Male}}
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Name}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Lunick}}
| colspan="3" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Kellyn}}
| colspan="2" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Ben (Ranger)|Ben}}
|- align="center"
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Front}}
| style="background:#fff" | [[File:Ra Lunick f.png]]
| style="background:#fff" | [[File:Soa Kellyn st f.png]]
| style="background:#fff" | [[File:Soa Kellyn ra f.png]]
| style="background:#fff" | [[File:Soa Kellyn top f.png]]
| colspan="2" style="background:#fff" | [[File:Lol Natsuya f.png]]
|- align="center"
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Back}}
| style="background:#fff" | [[File:Ra Lunick b.png]]
| style="background:#fff" | [[File:Soa Kellyn st b.png]]
| style="background:#fff" | [[File:Soa Kellyn ra b.png]]
| style="background:#fff" | [[File:Soa Kellyn top b.png]]
| style="background:#fff" | [[File:Lol Natsuya b.png]]
| style="background:#fff" | [[File:Lol Natsuya b w.png]]
|- align="center"
! rowspan="3" style="background:#bebed1; {{roundybl|5px}}" | {{color|000|Female}}
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Name}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Solana}}
| colspan="3" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Kate (Ranger)|Kate}}
| colspan="2" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Summer (Ranger)|Summer}}
|- align="center"
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Front}}
| style="background:#fff" | [[File:Ra Solana f.png]]
| style="background:#fff" | [[File:Soa Kate st f.png]]
| style="background:#fff" | [[File:Soa Kate ra f.png]]
| style="background:#fff" | [[File:Soa Kate top f.png]]
| colspan="2" style="background:#fff" | [[File:Lol Minami f.png]]
|- align="center"
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Back}}
| style="background:#fff" | [[File:Ra Solana b.png]]
| style="background:#fff" | [[File:Soa Kate st b.png]]
| style="background:#fff" | [[File:Soa Kate ra b.png]]
| style="background:#fff" | [[File:Soa Kate top b.png]]
| style="background:#fff" | [[File:Lol Minami b.png]]
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" | [[File:Lol Minami b w.png]]
|}
{{-}}

====Mystery Dungeon series====
:''See: [[Starter Pokémon#Pokémon World|Starter Pokémon]]''

===Others===
{| align="center" style="background: #88a; {{roundy|10px}} border: 5px solid #88a"
|-
! style="background:#bebed1; {{roundytl|5px}}" | {{color2|000|Pokémon game|Game}}
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color2|000|Pokémon Snap|Snap}}
! style="background:#bebed1; {{roundytr|5px}}" | {{color2|000|Pokémon Trozei!|Trozei}}
|- align="center"
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Name}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Todd Snap|Todd}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Lucy Fleetfoot|Lucy}}
|- align="center"
! style="background:#bebed1; {{roundybl|5px}}" | {{color|000|Image}}
| style="background:#fff" | [[File:Toddsnap.png|140px]]
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" |[[File:LucyFleetfoot.gif|140px]]
|}
{{-}}

==In the anime==
In the {{pkmn|anime}}, five of the player characters have been given major roles, three of them in the main anime series. {{Ash}} and [[Ritchie]] represent {{ga|Red}} (their game counterpart), being based on him in appearance as well as basic history. At the beginning of {{series2|Advanced Generation}}, {{an|May}} was introduced in order to better represent [[Generation III]] to viewers, as both [[Misty]] and [[Brock]] are characters native to [[Generation I]]. Likewise, at the beginning of the {{series|Diamond & Pearl}}, {{an|Dawn}} joined Ash.

{{jo|Jimmy}} and {{jo|Marina}} appeared in ''[[The Legend of Thunder!]]'' special, taking a similar role to Ash and his companions, fighting [[Team Rocket]] members to protect [[legendary Pokémon]]. While the protagonists of [[Generation II]] were not represented in Ash's party, these two filled the roles as the anime counterparts to {{ga|Ethan}} and {{ga|Kris}}.

{{an|Lyra}} appears in ''[[DP143|An Egg Scramble!]]'', and joins the group for a brief time.

So far, {{ga|Brendan}} has only made a few select cameo appearances at the begin of some of the [[Pokémon movie|movies]], while {{ga|Lucas}} made a cameo at the beginning of ''[[M11|Giratina and the Sky Warrior]]'' battling {{ga|Brendan}}.

Neither of the Generation V player characters have yet been seen in the anime.

==In the manga==
Most of the characters in Pokémon {{pkmn|manga}} are based on player and rival characters from the main series, with {{adv|Red}} being based on his game counterpart. This is also the case for his two fellow Kanto [[Pokédex Holder]]s, and the same applies for nearly all other main characters in the series; {{adv|Gold}}, for example, is based on the then-unnamed player character Ethan. However, because the [[Pokémon Yellow Version|Yellow version]], the fourth installment to the first generation, gave no additional protagonists, {{adv|Yellow}} was created, revealed to have been the girl Red rescued in the [[Viridian Forest]] before his battle with [[Giovanni]]. {{adv|Emerald}} is another cognate case, as in the entirety of [[Generation III]], only two player characters were given. [[Wally]], the closest thing to a third main character, was dropped in favor of this new character designed entirely from scratch. As of the [[Diamond & Pearl chapter (Adventures)|DP]] and [[Platinum chapter (Adventures)|Platinum chapters]], only the first ten main characters have met each other, as none of the Sinnoh Dex Holders have ventured out of their region.

Additionally, though {{ga|Lyra}} is almost universally accepted as a different character from {{ga|Kris}}, rather than a redesign like Ethan, {{Adv|Crystal}} has appeared wearing her clothes to serve as a counterpart, rather than introducing a second [[Johto]] female protagonist for the {{chap|HeartGold & SoulSilver}}.

==Trivia==
* None of the male player characters from the [[main series]] have encountered {{Ash}}, the main character from the [[Pokémon anime]]. Ash has only met male characters from side games, like {{ga|Pokémon Ranger}}. [[Jimmy (Johto)|One counterpart of a male player character]] has met Ash, however, in the thirteenth movie.
*{{ga|Red}}'s dialogue during his appearance as a {{tt|NPC|Non-player character}} in {{3v2|Gold|Silver|Crystal}} and their {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver|remakes}}, reflects to the games' player characters' status as silent protagonists.
*{{ga|Leaf}} is the only player character from the [[main series]], to not have been adapted in the anime through a cameo appearance or a counterpart.
*The list of default names per gender generally repeats{{tt|*|starting in Pokémon Crystal}} from game to game. Exceptions to this are character-specific names, which are names unique to a character, usually references to the title or aspects of the game.
* Until [[Generation V]], the given Japanese names of the male player characters in the main series games(as NPCs) all end in ''ki'' ('''キ'''). This excludes Red's appearance in Generations II and IV, as he is not a player character during the games when he is an NPC. Inclusively, Lunick's Japanese name also ends in ''ki''.
* All the [[main series]] female player characters have had blue eyes in at least one of their game sprites. {{ga|Kris}}, {{ga|May}}, {{ga|Dawn}}, {{ga|Touko}} have blue eyes in all their sprites. {{ga|Leaf}} has blue eyes in her trainer sprite, while {{ga|Lyra}} has blue eyes in her overworld sprites.

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[[Category:Playable characters|*]]

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Talk:May (game)

2010-11-23T23:42:17Z

Pocketfanmk: /* Younger sister? */

OK, that Emerald info was wrong. I just got the game last Thursday, so I know. First of all, our second battle didn't involve a Wingull, Lotad, or Slugma. She had her {{tt|Mudkip|Which of course didn't have to be a Mudkip}} and a Torkoal. I of course have Combusken. Last night when I fought her on Route 110, she had a Marshtop, Slugma, and Lombre. So, I don't know how many other mistakes could be there. [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 16:47, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
:[http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=9mfnzMvgzmE&fmt=18 And here's some proof.] [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 18:19, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
::That seems to be correct. May has Lombre and Slugma, but not Wingull if she has Marshtomp. So what's wrong? [[User:Kenn1985|~ kenn ]][[User_talk:Kenn1985|Talk]] 18:24, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
:::In the second battle, it depends on your starter. Example, I have Mudkip as my starter, and May has Wingull. If you have Torchic, then May has Slugma instead. [[User:Kenn1985|~ kenn ]][[User_talk:Kenn1985|Talk]] 18:26, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
::::For the second battle it says that if '''I''' have Combusken, than May would not have Slugma. And in the first battle, well, the article said ''nothing'' about a Torkoal. [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 18:30, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzKfvSBb3hQ This one] would probably make more sense to look at. [[User:Kenn1985|~ kenn ]][[User_talk:Kenn1985|Talk]] 18:47, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

== May Birch ==

Since this article is for the game, Should May Birch her full name *when no the chosen player character) be included? [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 23:09, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
:Well that's the point to why we're not doing that. If she is chosen as the player, she's not "May Birch". The same applies to Brendan. Plus if we had May Birch and Brendan Birch, people would start to believe they are siblings. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 23:11, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
Not if you explain it to them [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 23:14, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Also they list Both Norman and Prof. Birch as fathers with the condition to how that happens, so just as long as the person reading this has common sense they shouldn't get confused.[[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 23:18, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
#I don't really see a point to it.
#The way you put it didn't explain anything at all. If you put the conditions under which her name would be "May Birch," then it would be ''better'', but I still don't think we ought to include it. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 23:21, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
:Also, what about her Japanese name? We'd have to mess with that too. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 23:22, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

You guys are making this more difficult then it has to be. We don't have to mess with her Japanese name, it can remain as is. Anmd if the person would simply read the article they'd figure out that you only add the Birch part when she's Birch's daughter. Common sense really. [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 23:23, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
:So you'd just ignore the Japanese name? If you don't feel that's important than we shouldn't even bother with the English. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 23:26, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

:Well if you want to go and change the Japanese name too, then copy past the Japanese from Prof Birch's name and put it where it needs to be. that problem is solved, you don't have to make this so difficult. [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 23:30, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

::We don't need to mention "Birch". Anyone can figure out that could be a possible last name for themselves. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 23:31, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Well then you just defeated your platform on how people would get confused about the whole thing. [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 23:34, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
:You still haven't provided a good reason why we should add it. I definitely see a good reason that we shouldn't: It'll cause confusion, even if it's only momentary (which it won't always be). --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 00:02, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Because its Common sense and it educates people on the differences between regular may and both forms of game May.

and kenji protecting the article is an abuse of power an uncalled for. [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 00:04, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
:Sigh. Is he Blue Oak? No. No he's not. Heck, {{special|Green}}'s page isn't at Green Oak, {{special|Sapphire}}'s page isn't at Sapphire Birch, and {{special|Platina}}'s page isn't at Platina Berlitz (though it was previously). The style with these guys is to ''just use their first names'', because then it's consistent. Ash and Gary are a different story, since a majority of the time, they introduce themselves with first AND last names, while game characters just imply their last names by relation, but NEVER say them outright. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:07, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
:There. There's your other admin responce that you wanted so badly. We don't have it for anyone else so we shouldn't have it for May. Do you get it now? --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 00:13, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
::Well, the more reason was that they never even say their last name... but yep. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:23, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Well for one thing May is not in the same boat as Blue, Red or the others because she isn't associated with the color themes. This is a May article not a Sapphire, Ruby or Emerald or what ever color/material she's be named article. Plus the others are all more or less incarnations of the pokemon special not exactly like their video game counterparts. Even then Blue (video games) Green (special) is still the only one to my knowledge that could be given a last name, since i haven't read them and don't know if red is called red ketchem.

Her name is May (Haruka) putting her in the same boat as Ash and Gary with their respective Japanese names. Only because in the game versions last names are not clearly given except for possibly Gary, she'd be half in and half out of the boat given the circumstances.

I don't see why this was turned into a big argument. All i did was add an alternative name that is common sense going be for when she is the rival. Not to mention the article starts off with her primarily in the Rival position so the Name May Birch would fit better there just because the article is favoring Rival May and not Player May or not favoring either.

If it was a problem with people getting confused, they'd more likely be confused that May is listed primarily as the rival in this article, where her father would be Birch, but in the anime we all know her to be norman's daughter.

If you're worried about people getting confused then you should write that she is the Female Gender Choice for the player, and if not chosen the rival of the player. Unless you do that then we might as well just put Birch right after May because of how you guys have it written out.

That is what's misleading and confusing, not a alternative name that points out with common sense that if she is your rival and prof birch's offspring then her last name is going be birch.

Now if this was a case of the other game characters don't have last names then again it's not the same boat as the Color players/characters.

The Article needs to be cleaned up for one thing so it no longer favors may being in the Rival position which would award her the last name. The article shouldn't favor either timeline may and should state that She is either the player's choice if they pick the female gender or she is going be the rivial should the player pick the male. Both are equally represented with neither being favored explicitly.

Now to the matter at hand, Can you honestly say that Giving two names for this incarnation of May is going hurt the article?

I mean it comes down to common sense. Player = no last name so she is just May and is more closer to her Anime incarnation. Rival = Last name because she'll be the offspring of Professor Birch, and not as close to the anime incarnation. [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 01:05, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
:Well how are we to know that's her actual last name. There are children in the world who don't share the same last name as their father you know. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 01:18, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Now your just being argumentative. Before Wikipedia got all anti pokemon even they payed tribute to the fact that may gets the last name Birch by default if not chosen as the playing character. [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 01:39, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
:I brought up a valid point. Wikipedia is the most unreliable source you can get. Some user who thought the same thing you did probably entered it in anonymously. Unless Pokemon.com or any other official site says it then it is unproven. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 01:49, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Ironic considering Wikipedia says the same about bulbapedia. How often are people going update pokemon.com to give info that is common sense. Also Wikipedia is so anal that they remove stuff almost as soon as its added if you don't source it so don't say that wikipedia isn't reliable. If they weren't so bent on limiting how much space pokemon takes up like when they got rid of individual pokemon articles, they'd still have that in the May article or the game articles.

So are you going turn this argument into a prove it type deal because it seems like all your doing is just arguing to argue. If you knew a thing about pokemon then you'd realize that they're so weary of American values that they do as much as they can to conform to our standards and that would include passing the father's name down to their child. They don't want people thinking their kid is playing a game where their character is a bastard. [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 02:02, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
:Hey you're the one who started this, not me. You're the one who asked is it worth noting and I gave you my opinion as well as others. Just because somebody doesn't share the same name as their father doesn't mean they are a "bastard". That's a horrible thing to say. Just saying that proves to me how ignorant you are. Some father's give their children other last names just for the heck of it. Some might give their children their mother's maiden names. Does that make them "bastards".
:If you love Wikipeida so much do us a favor and stick with them. Who are you going to believe? Random people who no nothing about Pokémon or the dedicate fans? --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 02:12, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

You're just a dedicated fan of arguing and abusing your power and being unadmin like. [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 02:18, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
:Right, keep name calling and bitching. You're not going to get your way. Everyone on Bulbapedia thinks you're wrong. Not just me. You're the uncivil one. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 02:20, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
::Yami, would you SHUT UP ALREADY!!! Kenji-girl did NOT do anything wrong, nor abuse her powers; she just did what is right for Bulbapeida, so shut the hell up and LEAVE if you're going to argue!...gosh...you're filling up the server with this issue.--[[User:Tavisource|☆Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 02:23, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
Everyone on Bulbpedia huh? You're being uncivil and not acting like a person with admin privileges should. And Kenji did do wrong when she broke the rules protecting the page which she was in a dispute with. Not to mention her general attitude as i have said is not admin like. What is this issue to you anyways are you just here just to gang up on the new guy to Bulbapedia or here to back up your internet crush or are you a sock puppet for her or some other behind the scene stuff.

Why are you guys gettign so uncivil over a simple adition of ''or May Birch''?
::What the hell are you talking about? I think you're crazy...I'm not trying to gang up on the "new guy" or whatever... ust SUCK IT UP or LEAVE!!! And don't say who's uncivil, every community has their own rules, and also where all people have the say to do what's RIGHT, not WRONG!!! Get it?--[[User:Tavisource|☆Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 02:31, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

You and kenji girl are being uncivil with posting things like "can you shut this guy up" "You know who" and "You're not new see that message your no longer welcome" [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 03:09, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
:Why can't you just drop it and do something that is actually ''productive''. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 03:13, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
:Because you're being an asshole that's why. You're calling anyone who doesn't have the same last name as their father bastards. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 03:14, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
I said nothing of the sort. i said that it would stand to reasons that '''unless''' birch is divorced from may's/Branden's mother, they're not really his, or that he did the work but never married the mother and she gave them her name, then it would stand to reason they have the same last name as their father. common sense would at least give you enough reason to assume that much. Pokemon is always trying to conform to standards and would naturally try to conform to the social norm of naming a kid after one parent or the other. Are there kids named after their mother side yes but that doesn't mean that we can't assume a character like may or branden would share the same last name as their father who ever they would be. [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 03:47, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
:1)The name is Brenden. 2) Spell Pokémon correctly (with an é and a capital P) 3) Drop it and move on, you aren't going to win; do something productive so that everyone doesn't think that you are here only to cause trouble. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 03:50, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
::Don't you think you should just give it a rest already? She explained in a civil fashion why we don't need it in the article. How in the '''''galaxy''''' this got blown up into this is unbelievable. You have several admins telling you to drop it and do something more productive, yet you keep focusing on this.
::Edit warring is not something we take lightly here at Bulbapedia. I think calling it an abuse of power to protect a page to prevent edit warring makes no sense. Would you rather she have left it unprotected and continuously gone back and forth until you both drove each other insane? No, that's not how it works on Bulbapedia (or any wiki that I've heard of). All she did was explain to you why we don't have May Birch listed, and that's the simple fact that she's only May Birch when the main character is the Brenden. It's the same thing vice-versa.
::Do me a favor; instead of complaining about a stupid last name, help us upgrade the remaining 167 moves to Platinum Standard. Because right now, it seems like myself, {{u|Chungkingpun}}, and a few others are the only ones who actually care about this project getting done before this Thursday. Or go through the wanted pages and make an article somebody cares about. Because I honestly don't think most people care about the last name of a rival character exclusive to the games. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] [[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]] 04:01, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Moldy i don't care what the spelling is at the moment, I spelled it right i just don't put the é every singly time, and i dropped the name thing but you people keep getting uncivil like Kenji girl calling me a asshole. Why don't you tell her to be civil and stop it. Also don't threaten me on my talk page. You were uncivil and trollish in your remark. [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 04:07, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
:How long is this going to keep going? It's getting annoying to see so many edits about this page that it would be hard to ''spot a vandal'' if one were to pop up?--[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 04:10, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

This is a talk page, who is going vandal a talk page, its the main article you should have on your watch list. and i dropped it but every time i leave 3 more shows up and put in their two cents and it seems like it won't stop until we have a dollar. [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 04:16, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

== This is ridiculous. ==

And likely the most edited talk page within 24 hours.

This talkpage can't be edited by anyone but sysops until the 13th.

We're gonna have a nice, long rest from this argument, get Platinum standard up and finished, and then... pa-ding, Platinum comes out. Ready, set, go! Now let's concentrate on that! '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:59, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

== Default names ==

How do you even get to the default names, where can I find them, I mean. There are the 3 options that are there, like in {{v2|Yellow}} the three are Red, Ash, and frickin' something else... where is these whole lists of freakin' names comming from...? [[User:Kpokefan|'''K''']][[User talk:Kpokefan|'''P''']][[User:Kpokefan/Missions|'''F''']] 05:11, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
:I have to question the point of the modifier "freakin'." Anyway, in Emerald only, you either enter a custom name or select "OK," which will fill in one of the default names.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 05:36, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

== Meaning of "Mutsumi"? ==

Well, I noticed in the trivia on Brendan's page that his Japanese default names, ''Riku''ya and ''Kai''to containing words for "land" and "sea", much like the English equivalents ''Land''on and ''Sea''n. Now with May, her English names are ''Terra'' and ''Marina'', an earth based name and a water based name respectively. Now, I know that ''Nami'' is the Japanese word for "wave", so I'm assuming that ''Mutsumi'' must have ''some'' land based connotation, but I'm unable to come up with anything based on my current vocabulary or a dictionary. So, anyone got any idea on this? --[[User:Sato|Sato]] 11:47, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

== Party Template ==

Hey I've been working on getting a party template for May. Can someone go under In the games, Ruby and Sapphire, then in the second battle, can someone fix the types for Marshtomp. Ive tryed everything and it keeps on saying Water and Flying, not Water and Ground.--''[[User:Galm|Ga]][[User talk:Galm|lm]]'' 18:13, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
:Hey its Galm again, for may and her battle at lilycove city, i cant get her pokemon's type right. They mess up on me sorry for the incovenice though--''[[User:Galm|Ga]][[User talk:Galm|lm]]'' 00:31, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
::I fixed it already. ^_^ '''►[[User:Kevzo8|Ҝə]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|υz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|ø8]]''' 01:10, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
:::Yo dude thanks, I guess it just doesnt like me. Ill be working on her other templates.--''[[User:Galm|Ga]][[User talk:Galm|lm]]'' 02:02, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
::::We all make minor mistakes, and some are products of confusion, especially the Party template. That's very confusing at first, and later I started to learned it. And good job on adding the Trainer list, as well as the Party templates. I don't have time playing the Gen III games again... >.< '''►[[User:Kevzo8|Ҝə]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|υz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|ø8]]''' 02:06, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

== Where's this artwork from? ==

[http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee357/Pichu_Chu/sugimori_haruka-mew_asssdxsdfdsfgdv.jpg This one.] It's Sugimori's, but I don't know where it is from. Is it from the Game Freak site; it has had tons of official art that hasn't appeared any place else? It can't be though, it's too small. [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 00:42, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
:I think it is from the GF website, or maybe Sugimori's site or something. I don't recognize it from anywhere else. As for "it's too small", it could be a thumbnail that someone accidentally saved, or it got resized somewhere along the line, etc. [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 00:46, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

== Artwork ==
May's and its male counterpart Brendan's newest artworks are the only where is no some gadget besides some kind of pokéball. (Brendan haves pokénav in R/S artwork.) Gold and its female counterparts have pokédex, Red and Leaf have VS. Seeker and Lucas and Dawn have pokéwatch. This could be nice trivia?--[[User:Banetoid|Banetoid]] 06:14, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

== When was this artwork made? ==

[http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/5624/11355306306161lf.jpg This one]. I find it odd that Ken drew her with ''brown'' eyes instead of blue. A simple coloring error? Or were her eyes originally brown? I can understand Brendan, since his hair/hat is apparently undecided at the moment, but May's eyes? [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 01:28, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
:Forget it. It's from 2004. Must be a coloring error of some sort..[[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 13:47, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

== Younger sister? ==

As the PC in RuSa, her table lists May having an unnamed younger sister. But Brendan's table doesn't (as the player), and neither does Norman's. Explain? And if she does exist....where is she? [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 04:22, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Yes, this befuddles me, too. Anyone? [[User:Pocketfanmk|Pocketfanmk]] 23:42, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

== Route 119 emerald ==

Ok, so I just battled her in Emerald on Route 119(my starter was Mudkip) and her Pokémon were Slugma, Grovyle, and Lombre(female, Swift Swim(judging on how it didn't recover HP even though it was raining), with Fake Out/Nature Power/?/?), not Slugma, Grovyle, and Wingull. [[Water (type)|Water]][[Hydro Cannon (move)|User]] ([[user:WaterUser|page]], [[User talk:WaterUser|talk]]) 15:50, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

May (game)

2010-11-23T23:20:45Z

Pocketfanmk:

{{CharInfobox |
color={{sapphire color}} |
corecolor={{sapphire color light}} |
bordercolor={{sapphire color dark}} |
name=May |
jname=ハルカ |
tmname=Haruka |
image=Emerald May.png |
size=180px |
caption=Art from {{v2|Emerald}} |
gender=Female |
hometown=[[Littleroot Town]] |
region=[[Hoenn]] (originally [[Johto]] if chosen by the player) |
relatives= Unnamed little sister, Mom, [[Norman]] (as player) [[Professor Birch]], unnamed mother and little brother[[Pokémon Emerald Version|*]] (as rival) |
colors=no |
trainer=yes |
trainerclass=[[Pokémon Trainer]], [[Player character]] |
numpkmncaught=Varies with canon |
game=yes |
generation={{Gen|III}} |
games={{3v2|Ruby|Sapphire|Emerald}} |
leader=no |
anime=counterpart |
animecounterpart={{an|May}} |
epnum=AG001|
epname=Get the Show on the Road! |
manga=counterpart |
mangacounterpart={{adv|Sapphire}} |
roundnum=PS182 |
roundname=VS. Mightyena |
}}

'''May''' (Japanese: '''ハルカ''' ''Haruka'') serves as the [[rival]] in {{game2|Ruby|Sapphire|Emerald}}, should the {{player}} choose to play as the {{ga|Brendan|male character}}. She is also the female choice in the games, but ''May'' is never among the default names for the character.

The [[Generation III]] games deviated from the tradition of naming characters as their respective game names, such as {{ga|Red}} in the [[Generation I]] and [[Generation II]] games. As such, May's counterparts include {{an|May}} from the {{pkmn|anime}} and {{adv|Sapphire}} in the [[Pokémon Adventures]] manga.

==In the games==

==Story==
May starts her journey moving from her home in Johto to her new home in the town of Littleroot in Hoenn. After saving Prof. Birch from a wild Pokémon, she is given one of the three starters of the Hoenn region. May develops a close bond with Brendan, and eventually Wally, who both act as her rivals. May goes on to gather the eight badges of Hoenn, stop the plans of [[Team Aqua]] and [[Team Magma]] and conquer the Pokémon League all before going off to face the Battle Frontier.

===Pokémon===
In the games she appears in, May battles with the following Pokémon. Unlike other [[rival]]s (excluding {{ga|Brendan}}), May never [[evolution|evolves]] her [[starter Pokémon]] into its final form.

====Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire====
=====First battle=====
If the {{player}} chose {{p|Treecko}}:
{{Party
|color={{sapphire color}}
|headcolor={{sapphire color light}}
|bordercolor={{sapphire color dark}}
|sprite=May.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}300
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=May
|game=RS
|location=Hoenn Route 103
|locationname=Route 103
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=255
|pokemon=Torchic
|gender=male
|level=5
|type1=Fire
|ability=Blaze
|move1=Scratch
|move1type=Normal
|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Growl
|move2type=Normal
|move2cat=Status}}
}}

If the {{player}} chose {{p|Torchic}}:
{{Party
|color={{sapphire color}}
|headcolor={{sapphire color light}}
|bordercolor={{sapphire color dark}}
|sprite=May.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}300
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=May
|game=RS
|location=Hoenn Route 103
|locationname=Route 103
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=258
|pokemon=Mudkip
|gender=male
|level=5
|type1=Water
|ability=Torrent
|move1=Tackle
|move1type=Normal
|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Growl
|move2type=Normal
|move2cat=Status}}
}}

If the {{player}} chose {{p|Mudkip}}:
{{Party
|color={{sapphire color}}
|headcolor={{sapphire color light}}
|bordercolor={{sapphire color dark}}
|sprite=May.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}300
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=May
|game=RS
|location=Hoenn Route 103
|locationname=Route 103
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=252
|pokemon=Treecko
|gender=male
|level=5
|type1=Grass
|ability=Overgrow
|move1=Pound
|move1type=Normal
|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Growl
|move2type=Normal
|move2cat=Status}}
}}

[[File:Ruby Sapphire May.png|thumb|right|160px|Artwork from {{v2|Ruby and Sapphire|s}}]]

=====Second battle (on {{rt|110|Hoenn}})=====
If the {{player}} chose {{p|Treecko}}:
{{Party
|color={{sapphire color}}
|headcolor={{sapphire color light}}
|bordercolor={{sapphire color dark}}
|sprite=May.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}1200
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=May
|game=RS
|location=Hoenn Route 110
|locationname=Route 110
|pokemon=3
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=285
|pokemon=Shroomish
|gender=female
|level=18
|type1=Grass
|ability=Effect Spore
|held=Unknown
|move1=Tackle
|move1type=Normal
|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Stun Spore
|move2type=Grass
|move2cat=Status
|move3=Leech Seed
|move3type=Grass
|move3cat=Status
|move4=Mega Drain
|move4type=Grass
|move4cat=Special}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=320
|pokemon=Wailmer
|gender=female
|level=18
|type1=Water
|ability=Water Veil
|held=Unknown
|move1=Splash
|move1type=Water
|move1cat=Status
|move2=Growl
|move2type=Normal
|move2cat=Status
|move3=Water Gun
|move3type=Water
|move3cat=Special
|move4=Rollout
|move4type=Rock
|move4cat=Physical}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=256
|pokemon=Combusken
|gender=male
|level=20
|type1=Fire
|type2=Fighting
|ability=Blaze
|held=Unknown
|move1=Focus Energy
|move1type=Normal
|move1cat=Special
|move2=Ember
|move2type=Fire
|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Double Kick
|move3type=Fighting
|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Peck
|move4type=Flying
|move4cat=Psysical}}
}}

If the {{player}} chose {{p|Torchic}}:
{{Party
|color={{sapphire color}}
|headcolor={{sapphire color light}}
|bordercolor={{sapphire color dark}}
|sprite=May.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}1200
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=May
|game=RS
|location=Hoenn Route 110
|locationname=Route 110
|pokemon=3
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=285
|pokemon=Shroomish
|gender=female
|level=18
|type1=Grass
|ability=Effect Spore
|held=Unknown
|move1=Tackle
|move1type=Normal
|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Stun Spore
|move2type=Grass
|move2cat=Status
|move3=Leech Seed
|move3type=Grass
|move3cat=Status
|move4=Mega Drain
|move4type=Grass
|move4cat=Special}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=322
|pokemon=Numel
|gender=female
|level=18
|type1=Fire
|type2=Ground
|ability=Oblivious
|held=Unknown
|move1=Growl
|move1type=Normal
|move1cat=Status
|move2=Tackle
|move2type=Normal
|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Ember
|move3type=Fire
|move3cat=Special}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=259
|pokemon=Marshtomp
|gender=male
|level=20
|type1=Water
|type2=Ground
|ability=Torrent
|held=Unknown
|move1=Water Gun
|move1type=Water
|move1cat=Special
|move2=Bide
|move2type=Normal
|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Mud Shot
|move3type=Ground
|move3cat=Special
|move4=Foresight
|move4type=Normal
|move4cat=Status}}
}}

If the {{player}} chose {{p|Mudkip}}:
{{Party
|color={{sapphire color}}
|headcolor={{sapphire color light}}
|bordercolor={{sapphire color dark}}
|sprite=May.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}1200
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=May
|game=RS
|location=Hoenn Route 110
|locationname=Route 110
|pokemon=3
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=320
|pokemon=Wailmer
|gender=female
|level=18
|type1=Water
|ability=Water Veil
|held=Unknown
|move1=Splash
|move1type=Water
|move1cat=Status
|move2=Growl
|move2type=Normal
|move2cat=Status
|move3=Water Gun
|move3type=Water
|move3cat=Special
|move4=Rollout
|move4type=Rock
|move4cat=Psyshical}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=322
|pokemon=Numel
|gender=female
|level=18
|type1=Fire
|type2=Ground
|ability=Oblivious
|held=Unknown
|move1=Growl
|move1type=Normal
|move1cat=Status
|move2=Tackle
|move2type=Normal
|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Ember
|move3type=Fire
|move3cat=Special}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=253
|pokemon=Grovyle
|gender=male
|level=20
|type1=Grass
|ability=Overgrow
|held=Unknown
|move1=Absorb
|move1type=Grass
|move1cat=Special
|move2=Quick Attack
|move2type=Normal
|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Fury Cutter
|move3type=Bug
|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Pursuit
|move4type=Dark
|move4cat=Psysical}}
}}

=====Third battle (on {{rt|119|Hoenn}})=====
If the {{player}} chose {{p|Treecko}}:
{{Party
|color={{sapphire color}}
|headcolor={{sapphire color light}}
|bordercolor={{sapphire color dark}}
|sprite=May.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}1860
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=May
|game=RS
|location=Hoenn Route 119
|locationname=Route 119
|pokemon=3
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=285
|pokemon=Shroomish
|gender=female
|level=29
|type1=Grass
|ability=Effect Spore
|held=Unknown
|move1=Headbutt
|move1type=Normal
|move2=PoisonPowder
|move2type=Poison
|move3=Leech Seed
|move3type=Grass
|move4=Mega Drain
|move4type=Grass}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=320
|pokemon=Wailmer
|gender=female
|level=29
|type1=Water
|ability=Water Veil
|held=Unknown
|move1=Rollout
|move1type=Rock
|move2=Astonish
|move2type=Ghost
|move3=Water Pulse
|move3type=Water
|move4=Whirlpool
|move4type=Water}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=256
|pokemon=Combusken
|gender=male
|level=31
|type1=Fire
|type2=Fighting
|ability=Blaze
|held=Unknown
|move1=Double Kick
|move1type=Fighting
|move2=Bulk Up
|move2type=Fighting
|move3=Sand-Attack
|move3type=Ground
|move4=Peck
|move4type=Flying}}}}

If the {{player}} chose {{p|Torchic}}:
{{Party
|color={{sapphire color}}
|headcolor={{sapphire color light}}
|bordercolor={{sapphire color dark}}
|sprite=May.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}1860
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=May
|game=RS
|location=Hoenn Route 119
|locationname=Route 119
|pokemon=3
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=285
|pokemon=Shroomish
|gender=female
|level=29
|type1=Grass
|ability=Effect Spore
|held=Unknown
|move1=Headbutt
|move1type=Normal
|move2=PoisonPowder
|move2type=Poison
|move3=Leech Seed
|move3type=Grass
|move4=Mega Drain
|move4type=Grass}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=322
|pokemon=Numel
|gender=female
|level=29
|type1=Fire
|type2=Ground
|ability=Oblivious
|held=Unknown
|move1=Ember
|move1type=Fire
|move2=Magnitude
|move2type=Ground
|move3=Focus Energy
|move3type=Normal
|move4=Take Down
|move4type=Normal}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=259
|pokemon=Marshtomp
|gender=male
|level=31
|type1=Water
|type2=Ground
|ability=Torrent
|held=Unknown
|move1=Mud Shot
|move1type=Ground
|move2=Mud Sport
|move2type=Ground
|move3=Foresight
|move3type=Normal
|move4=Take Down
|move4type=Normal}}}}

If the {{player}} chose {{p|Mudkip}}:
{{Party
|color={{sapphire color}}
|headcolor={{sapphire color light}}
|bordercolor={{sapphire color dark}}
|sprite=May.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}1860
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=May
|game=RS
|location=Hoenn Route 119
|locationname=Route 119
|pokemon=3
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=320
|pokemon=Wailmer
|gender=female
|level=29
|type1=Water
|ability=Water Veil
|held=Unknown
|move1=Rollout
|move1type=Rock
|move2=Astonish
|move2type=Ghost
|move3=Water Pulse
|move3type=Water
|move4=Whirlpool
|move4type=Water}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=322
|pokemon=Numel
|gender=female
|level=29
|type1=Fire
|type2=Ground
|ability=Oblivious
|held=Unknown
|move1=Ember
|move1type=Fire
|move2=Magnitude
|move2type=Ground
|move3=Focus Energy
|move3type=Normal
|move4=Take Down
|move4type=Normal}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=253
|pokemon=Grovyle
|gender=male
|level=31
|type1=Grass
|ability=Overgrow
|held=Unknown
|move1=Leaf Blade
|move1type=Grass
|move2=Screech
|move2type=Normal
|move3=Fury Cutter
|move3type=Bug
|move4=Pursuit
|move4type=Dark}}}}

=====Fourth battle (in [[Lilycove City]])=====
If the {{player}} chose {{p|Treecko}}:
{{Party
|color={{sapphire color}}
|headcolor={{sapphire color light}}
|bordercolor={{sapphire color dark}}
|sprite=May.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}2040
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=May
|game=RS
|location=Lilycove City
|pokemon=4
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=277
|pokemon=Swellow
|gender=female
|level=31
|type1=Normal
|type2=Flying
|ability=Guts
|held=Unknown
|move1=Quick Attack
|move1type=Normal
|move2=Wing Attack
|move2type=Flying
|move3=Endeavor
|move3type=Normal
|move4=Double Team
|move4type=Normal}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=320
|pokemon=Wailmer
|gender=female
|level=32
|type1=Water
|ability=Water Veil
|held=Unknown
|move1=Mist
|move1type=Ice
|move2=Astonish
|move2type=Ghost
|move3=Water Pulse
|move3type=Water
|move4=Whirlpool
|move4type=Water}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=285
|pokemon=Shroomish
|gender=female
|level=32
|type1=Grass
|ability=Effect Spore
|held=Unknown
|move1=Headbutt
|move1type=Normal
|move2=PoisonPowder
|move2type=Poison
|move3=Leech Seed
|move3type=Grass
|move4=Mega Drain
|move4type=Grass}}
|pokemon4={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=256
|pokemon=Combusken
|gender=male
|level=34
|type1=Fire
|type2=Fighting
|ability=Blaze
|held=Unknown
|move1=Double Kick
|move1type=Fighting
|move2=Bulk Up
|move2type=Fighting
|move3=Sand-Attack
|move3type=Ground
|move4=Peck
|move4type=Flying}}}}

If the {{player}} chose {{p|Torchic}}:
{{Party
|color={{sapphire color}}
|headcolor={{sapphire color light}}
|bordercolor={{sapphire color dark}}
|sprite=May.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}2040
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=May
|game=RS
|location=Lilycove City
|pokemon=4
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=277
|pokemon=Swellow
|gender=female
|level=31
|type1=Normal
|type2=Flying
|ability=Guts
|held=Unknown
|move1=Quick Attack
|move1type=Normal
|move2=Wing Attack
|move2type=Flying
|move3=Endeavor
|move3type=Normal
|move4=Double Team
|move4type=Normal}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=285
|pokemon=Shroomish
|gender=female
|level=32
|type1=Grass
|ability=Effect Spore
|held=Unknown
|move1=Headbutt
|move1type=Normal
|move2=PoisonPowder
|move2type=Poison
|move3=Leech Seed
|move3type=Grass
|move4=Mega Drain
|move4type=Grass}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=322
|pokemon=Numel
|gender=female
|level=32
|type1=Fire
|type2=Ground
|ability=Oblivious
|held=Unknown
|move1=Amnesia
|move1type=Psychic
|move2=Magnitude
|move2type=Ground
|move3=Focus Energy
|move3type=Normal
|move4=Take Down
|move4type=Normal}}
|pokemon4={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=259
|pokemon=Marshtomp
|gender=male
|level=34
|type1=Water
|type2=Ground
|ability=Torrent
|held=Unknown
|move1=Mud Shot
|move1type=Ground
|move2=Mud Sport
|move2type=Ground
|move3=Foresight
|move3type=Normal
|move4=Take Down
|move4type=Normal}}}}

If the {{player}} chose {{p|Mudkip}}:
{{Party
|color={{sapphire color}}
|headcolor={{sapphire color light}}
|bordercolor={{sapphire color dark}}
|sprite=May.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}2040
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=May
|game=RS
|location=Lilycove City
|pokemon=4
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=277
|pokemon=Swellow
|gender=female
|level=31
|type1=Normal
|type2=Flying
|ability=Guts
|held=Unknown
|move1=Quick Attack
|move1type=Normal
|move2=Wing Attack
|move2type=Flying
|move3=Endeavor
|move3type=Normal
|move4=Double Team
|move4type=Normal}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=322
|pokemon=Numel
|gender=female
|level=32
|type1=Fire
|type2=Ground
|ability=Oblivious
|held=Unknown
|move1=Amnesia
|move1type=Psychic
|move2=Magnitude
|move2type=Ground
|move3=Focus Energy
|move3type=Normal
|move4=Take Down
|move4type=Normal}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=320
|pokemon=Wailmer
|gender=female
|level=32
|type1=Water
|ability=Water Veil
|held=Unknown
|move1=Mist
|move1type=Ice
|move2=Astonish
|move2type=Ghost
|move3=Water Pulse
|move3type=Water
|move4=Whirlpool
|move4type=Water}}
|pokemon4={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=253
|pokemon=Grovyle
|gender=male
|level=34
|type1=Grass
|ability=Overgrow
|held=Unknown
|move1=Leaf Blade
|move1type=Grass
|move2=Screech
|move2type=Normal
|move3=Fury Cutter
|move3type=Bug
|move4=Pursuit
|move4type=Dark}}}}

====Pokémon Emerald====
=====First battle (on {{rt|103|Hoenn}})=====
If the {{player}} chose {{p|Treecko}}:
{{Party
|color={{sapphire color}}
|headcolor={{sapphire color light}}
|bordercolor={{sapphire color dark}}
|sprite=MayE.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}300
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=May
|game=E
|location=Hoenn Route 103
|locationname=Route 103
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=255
|pokemon=Torchic
|gender=male
|level=5
|type1=Fire
|ability=Blaze
|move1=Scratch
|move1type=Normal
|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Growl
|move2type=Normal
|move2cat=Status}}
}}

If the {{player}} chose {{p|Torchic}}:
{{Party
|color={{sapphire color}}
|headcolor={{sapphire color light}}
|bordercolor={{sapphire color dark}}
|sprite=MayE.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}300
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=May
|game=E
|location=Hoenn Route 103
|locationname=Route 103
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=258
|pokemon=Mudkip
|gender=male
|level=5
|type1=Water
|ability=Torrent
|move1=Tackle
|move1type=Normal
|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Growl
|move2type=Normal
|move2cat=Status}}
}}

If the {{player}} chose {{p|Mudkip}}:
{{Party
|color={{sapphire color}}
|headcolor={{sapphire color light}}
|bordercolor={{sapphire color dark}}
|sprite=MayE.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}300
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=May
|game=E
|location=Hoenn Route 103
|locationname=Route 103
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=252
|pokemon=Treecko
|gender=male
|level=5
|type1=Grass
|ability=Overgrow
|move1=Pound
|move1type=Normal
|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Leer
|move2type=Normal
|move2cat=Status}}
}}

=====Second battle (Optionally in [[Rustboro City]])=====
If the {{player}} chose {{p|Treecko}}:
{{Party
|color={{sapphire color}}
|headcolor={{sapphire color light}}
|bordercolor={{sapphire color dark}}
|sprite=MayE.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}900
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=May
|game=E
|location=Rustboro City
|pokemon=2
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=270
|pokemon=Lotad
|gender=female
|level=13
|type1=Water
|type2=Grass
|ability=Swift Swim
|move1=Nature Power
|move1type=Normal
|move2=Absorb
|move2type=Grass
|move3=Astonish
|move3type=Ghost
|move4=Growl
|move4type=Normal}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=255
|pokemon=Torchic
|gender=male
|level=15
|type1=Fire
|ability=Blaze
|move1=Ember
|move1type=Fire
|move2=Scratch
|move2type=Normal
|move3=Growl
|move3type=Normal
|move4=Focus Energy
|move4type=Normal}}}}

If the {{player}} chose {{p|Torchic}}:
{{Party
|color={{sapphire color}}
|headcolor={{sapphire color light}}
|bordercolor={{sapphire color dark}}
|sprite=MayE.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}900
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=May
|game=E
|location=Rustboro City
|pokemon=2
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=324
|pokemon=Torkoal
|gender=female
|level=13
|type1=Fire
|ability=White Smoke
|move1=Ember
|move1type=Fire
|move2=Smog
|move2type=Poison
|move3=Curse
|move3type=???
|move4=SmokeScreen
|move4type=Normal}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=258
|pokemon=Mudkip
|gender=male
|level=15
|type1=Water
|ability=Torrent
|move1=Water Gun
|move1type=Water
|move2=Bide
|move2type=Normal
|move3=Mud-Slap
|move3type=Ground
|move4=Growl
|move4type=Normal}}}}

If the {{player}} chose {{p|Mudkip}}:
{{Party
|color={{sapphire color}}
|headcolor={{sapphire color light}}
|bordercolor={{sapphire color dark}}
|sprite=MayE.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}900
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=May
|game=E
|location=Rustboro City
|pokemon=2
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=278
|pokemon=Wingull
|gender=female
|level=13
|type1=Water
|type2=Flying
|ability=Keen Eye
|move1=Water Gun
|move1type=Water
|move2=Wing Attack
|move2type=Flying
|move3=Supersonic
|move3type=Normal
|move4=Growl
|move4type=Normal}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=252
|pokemon=Treecko
|gender=male
|level=15
|type1=Grass
|ability=Overgrow
|move1=Absorb
|move1type=grass
|move2=Leer
|move2type=Normal
|move3=Pound
|move3type=Normal
|move4=Quick Attack
|move4type=Normal}}}}

=====Third battle (on {{rt|110|Hoenn}})=====
If the {{player}} chose {{p|Treecko}}:
{{Party
|color={{sapphire color}}
|headcolor={{sapphire color light}}
|bordercolor={{sapphire color dark}}
|sprite=MayE.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}1350
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=May
|game=E
|location=Hoenn Route 110
|locationname=Route 110
|pokemon=3
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=278
|pokemon=Wingull
|gender=female
|level=18
|ability=Keen Eye
|type1=Water
|type2=Flying
|move1=Wing Attack
|move1type=Flying
|move2=Supersonic
|move2type=Normal
|move3=Water Gun
|move3type=Water
|move4=Growl
|move4type=Normal}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=271
|pokemon=Lombre
|gender=female
|level=18
|ability=Swift Swim
|type1=Water
|type2=Grass
|move1=Nature Power
|move1type=Normal
|move2=Growl
|move2type=Normal
|move3=Astonish
|move3type=Ghost
|move4=Absorb
|move4type=Grass}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=256
|pokemon=Combusken
|gender=male
|level=20
|ability=Blaze
|type1=Fire
|type2=Fighting
|move1=Peck
|move1type=Flying
|move2=Ember
|move2type=Fire
|move3=Focus Energy
|move3type=Normal
|move4=Double Kick
|move4type=Fighting}}}}

If the {{player}} chose {{p|Torchic}}:
{{Party
|color={{sapphire color}}
|headcolor={{sapphire color light}}
|bordercolor={{sapphire color dark}}
|sprite=MayE.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}1350
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=May
|game=E
|location=Hoenn Route 110
|locationname=Route 110
|pokemon=3
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=271
|pokemon=Lombre
|gender=female
|level=18
|ability=Swift Swim
|type1=Water
|type2=Grass
|move1=Nature Power
|move1type=Normal
|move2=Growl
|move2type=Normal
|move3=Astonish
|move3type=Ghost
|move4=Absorb
|move4type=Grass}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=218
|pokemon=Slugma
|gender=male
|level=18
|ability=Flame Body
|type1=Fire
|move1=Yawn
|move1type=Normal
|move2=Smog
|move2type=Poison
|move3=Ember
|move3type=Fire
|move4=Rock Throw
|move4type=Rock}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=259
|pokemon=Marshtomp
|gender=male
|level=20
|ability=Torrent
|type1=Water
|type2=Ground
|move1=Foresight
|move1type=Normal
|move2=Water Gun
|move2type=Water
|move3=Bide
|move3type=Normal
|move4=Mud Shot
|move4type=Ground}}}}

If the {{player}} chose {{p|Mudkip}}:
{{Party
|color={{sapphire color}}
|headcolor={{sapphire color light}}
|bordercolor={{sapphire color dark}}
|sprite=MayE.png
|prize={{Pdollar}}1350
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=May
|game=E
|location=Hoenn Route 110
|locationname=Route 110
|pokemon=3|
pokemon1={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=278|
pokemon=Wingull|
gender=female|
level=18|
ability=Keen Eye|
type1=Water|
type2=Flying|
move1=Water Gun|
move1type=Water|
move2=Supersonic|
move2type=Normal|
move3=Wing Attack|
move3type=Flying|
move4=Growl|
move4type=Normal}}|
pokemon2={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=218|
pokemon=Slugma|
gender=female|
level=18|
ability=Flame Body|
type1=Fire|
move1=Yawn|
move1type=Normal|
move2=Smog|
move2type=Poison|
move3=Ember|
move3type=Fire|
move4=Rock Throw|
move4type=Rock}}|
pokemon3={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=253|
pokemon=Grovyle|
gender=male|
level=20|
ability=Overgrow|
type1=Grass|
move1=Pursuit|
move1type=Dark|
move2=Fury Cutter|
move2type=Bug|
move3=Quick Attack|
move3type=Normal|
move4=Absorb|
move4type=Grass}}
}}

=====Fourth battle (on {{rt|119|Hoenn}})=====

If the {{player}} chose {{p|Treecko}}:
{{Party|
color={{sapphire color}}|
headcolor={{sapphire color light}}|
bordercolor={{sapphire color dark}}|
sprite=MayE.png|
prize={{pdollar}}2400|
class=Pokémon Trainer |
name=May |
game=E |
location=Hoenn Route 119 |
locationname=Route 119 |
pokemon=3|
pokemon1={{Pokémon|
gen=3|
game=Emerald|
ndex=271|
pokemon=Lombre|
gender=female|
level=29|
ability=Swift Swim|
type1=Water|
type2=Grass|
move1=Absorb|
move1type=Grass|
move2=Nature Power|
move2type=Normal|
move3=Fake Out|
move3type=Normal|
move4=Fury Swipes|
move4type=Normal}}|
pokemon2={{Pokémon|
gen=3|
game=Emerald|
ndex=279|
pokemon=Pelipper|
gender=female|
level=29|
ability=Keen Eye|
type1=Water|
type2=Flying|
move1=Supersonic|
move1type=Normal|
move2=Mist|
move2type=Ice |
move3=Protect|
move3type=Normal|
move4=Wing Attack|
move4type=Flying}}|
pokemon3={{Pokémon|
gen=3|
game=Emerald|
ndex=256|
pokemon=Combusken|
gender=male|
level=31|
ability=Blaze|
type1=Fire|
type2=Fighting|
move1=Sand-Attack|
move1type=Ground|
move2=Peck |
move2type=Flying|
move3=Bulk Up|
move3type=Fighting|
move4=Double Kick|
move4type=Fighting}}
}}

If the {{player}} chose {{p|Torchic}}:
{{Party|
color={{sapphire color}}|
headcolor={{sapphire color light}}|
bordercolor={{sapphire color dark}}|
sprite=MayE.png|
prize={{pdollar}}2400|
class=Pokémon Trainer |
name=May |
game=E |
location=Hoenn Route 119 |
locationname=Route 119 |
pokemon=3|
pokemon1={{Pokémon|
gen=3|
game=Emerald|
ndex=271|
pokemon=Lombre|
gender=female|
level=29|
ability=Swift Swim|
type1=Water|
type2=Grass|
move1=Absorb|
move1type=Grass|
move2=Nature Power|
move2type=Normal|
move3=Fake Out|
move3type=Normal|
move4=Fury Swipes|
move4type=Normal}}|
pokemon2={{Pokémon|
gen=3|
game=Emerald|
ndex=218|
pokemon=Slugma|
gender=female|
level=29|
ability=Flame Body|
type1=Fire|
move1=Ember|
move1type=Fire|
move2=Rock Throw|
move2type=Rock|
move3=Harden|
move3type=Normal|
move4=Amnesia|
move4type=Psychic}}|
pokemon3={{Pokémon|
gen=3|
game=Emerald|
ndex=259|
pokemon=Marshtomp|
gender=male|
level=31|
ability=Torrent|
type1=Water|
type2=Ground|
move1=Mud Shot|
move1type=Ground|
move2=Foresight|
move2type=Normal|
move3=Mud Sport|
move3type=Ground|
move4=Take Down|
move4type=Normal}}
}}

If the {{player}} chose {{p|Mudkip}}:
{{Party|
color={{sapphire color}}|
headcolor={{sapphire color light}}|
bordercolor={{sapphire color dark}}|
sprite=MayE.png|
prize={{pdollar}}2400|
class=Pokémon Trainer |
name=May |
game=E |
location=Hoenn Route 119 |
locationname=Route 119 |
pokemon=3|
pokemon1={{Pokémon|
gen=3|
game=Emerald|
ndex=218|
pokemon=Slugma|
gender=female|
level=29|
ability=Flame Body|
type1=Fire|
move1=Ember|
move1type=Fire|
move2=Rock Throw|
move2type=Rock|
move3=Harden|
move3type=Normal|
move4=Amnesia|
move4type=Psychic}}|
pokemon2={{Pokémon|
gen=3|
game=Emerald|
ndex=278|
pokemon=Wingull|
gender=female|
level=29|
ability=Keen Eye|
type1=Water|
type2=Flying|
move1=Supersonic|
move1type=Normal|
move2=Mist|
move2type=Ice|
move3=Water Gun|
move3type=Water|
move4=Wing Attack|
move4type=Flying}}|
pokemon3={{Pokémon|
gen=3|
game=Emerald|
ndex=253|
pokemon=Grovyle|
gender=male|
level=31|
ability=Overgrow|
type1=Grass|
move1=Leaf Blade|
move1type=Grass|
move2=Screech|
move2type=Normal|
move3=Pursuit|
move3type=Dark|
move4=Fury Cutter|
move4type=Bug}}
}}

=====Fifth Battle (in [[Lilycove City]])=====
If the {{player}} chose {{p|Treecko}}:
{{Party|
color={{sapphire color}}|
headcolor={{sapphire color light}}|
bordercolor={{sapphire color dark}}|
sprite=MayE.png|
prize={{pdollar}}2740|
class=Pokémon Trainer |
name=May |
game=E |
location=Lilycove City |
pokemon=4|
pokemon1={{Pokémon|
gen=3|
game=Emerald|
ndex=357|
pokemon=Tropius|
gender=female|
level=31|
ability=Chlorophyll|
type1=Grass|
type2=Flying|
move1=Magical Leaf|
move1type=Grass|
move2=Whirlwind|
move2type=Normal|
move3=Sweet Scent|
move3type=Normal|
move4=Stomp|
move4type=Normal}}|
pokemon2={{Pokémon|
gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=272|
pokemon=Ludicolo|
gender=female|
level=32|
ability=Swift Swim|
type1=Water|
type2=Grass|
move1=Nature Power|
move1type=Normal|
move2=Fake Out|
move2type=Normal|
move3=Fury Swipes|
move3type=Normal|
move4=Water Sport|
move4type=Water}}|
pokemon3={{Pokémon|
gen=3|
game=Emerald|
ndex=279|
pokemon=Pelipper|
gender=female|
level=32|
ability=Keen Eye|
type1=Water|
type2=Flying|
move1=Protect|
move1type=Normal|
move2=Mist|
move2type=Ice|
move3=Wing Attack|
move3type=Flying|
move4=Supersonic|
move4type=Normal}}|
pokemon4={{Pokémon|
gen=3|
game=Emerald|
ndex=256|
pokemon=Combusken|
gender=male|
level=34|
ability=Blaze|
type1=Fire|
type2=Fighting|
move1=Quick Attack|
move1type=Normal|
move2=Bulk Up|
move2type=Fighting|
move3=Sand-Attack|
move3type=Ground|
move4=Peck|
move4type=Flying}}
}}

If the {{player}} chose {{p|Torchic}}:
{{Party|
color={{sapphire color}}|
headcolor={{sapphire color light}}|
bordercolor={{sapphire color dark}}|
sprite=MayE.png|
prize={{pdollar}}2740|
class=Pokémon Trainer |
name=May |
game=E |
location=Lilycove City |
pokemon=4|
pokemon1={{Pokémon|
gen=3|
game=Emerald|
ndex=357|
pokemon=Tropius|
gender=female|
level=31|
ability=Chlorophyll|
type1=Grass|
type2=Flying|
move1=Magical Leaf|
move1type=Grass|
move2=Whirlwind|
move2type=Normal|
move3=Sweet Scent|
move3type=Normal|
move4=Stomp|
move4type=Normal}}|
pokemon2={{Pokémon|
gen=3|
game=Emerald|
ndex=272|
pokemon=Ludicolo|
gender=female|
level=32|
ability=Swift Swim|
type1=Water|
type2=Grass|
move1=Nature Power|
move1type=Normal|
move2=Fake Out|
move2type=Normal|
move3=Fury Swipes|
move3type=Normal|
move4=Water Sport|
move4type=Water}}|
pokemon3={{Pokémon|
gen=3|
game=Emerald|
ndex=218|
pokemon=Slugma|
gender=female|
level=32|
ability=Flame Body|
type1=Fire|
move1=Ember|
move1type=Fire|
move2=Rock Throw|
move2type=Rock|
move3=Harden|
move3type=Normal|
move4=Amnesia|
move4type=Psychic}}|
pokemon4={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Emerald|
ndex=259|
pokemon=Marshtomp|
gender=male|
level=34|
ability=Torrent|
type1=Water|
type2=Ground|
move1=Mud Shot|
move1type=Ground|
move2=Foresight|
move2type=Normal|
move3=Mud Sport|
move3type=Ground|
move4=Take Down|
move4type=Normal}}
}}

If the {{player}} chose {{p|Mudkip}}:
{{Party|
color={{sapphire color}}|
headcolor={{sapphire color light}}|
bordercolor={{sapphire color dark}}|
sprite=MayE.png|
prize={{pdollar}}2740|
class=Pokémon Trainer |
name=May |
game=E |
location=Lilycove City |
pokemon=4|
pokemon1={{Pokémon|
gen=3|
game=Emerald|
ndex=357|
pokemon=Tropius|
gender=female|
level=31|
ability=Chlorophyll|
type1=Grass|
type2=Flying|
move1=Magical Leaf|
move1type=Grass|
move2=Whirlwind|
move2type=Normal|
move3=Sweet Scent|
move3type=Normal|
move4=Stomp|
move4type=Normal}}|
pokemon2={{Pokémon|
gen=3|
game=Emerald|
ndex=279|
pokemon=Pelipper|
gender=female|
level=32|
ability=Keen Eye|
type1=Water|
type2=Flying|
move1=Protect|
move1type=Normal|
move2=Mist|
move2type=Ice|
move3=Wing Attack|
move3type=Flying|
move4=Supersonic|
move4type=Normal}}|
pokemon3={{Pokémon|
gen=3|
game=Emerald|
ndex=218|
pokemon=Slugma|
gender=female|
level=32|
ability=Flame Body|
type1=Fire|
move1=Ember|
move1type=Fire|
move2=Rock Throw|
move2type=Rock|
move3=Harden|
move3type=Normal|
move4=Amnesia|
move4type=Psychic}}|
pokemon4={{Pokémon|
gen=3|
game=Emerald|
ndex=253|
pokemon=Grovyle|
gender=male|
level=34|
ability=Overgrow|
type1=Grass|
move1=Fury Cutter|
move1type=Bug|
move2=Pursuit|
move2type=Dark|
move3=Screech|
move3type=Normal|
move4=Leaf Blade|
move4type=Grass}}}}

===Sprites===
{| align="center" style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{Sapphire color dark}}; background: #{{Sapphire color}};"
|- align=center
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Sapphire color dark}}; background: #{{Sapphire color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:RS May.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Sapphire color dark}}; background: #{{Sapphire color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:RS May Back.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Sapphire color dark}}; background: #{{Sapphire color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:E May.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Sapphire color dark}}; background: #{{Sapphire color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:E May Back.png]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Sapphire color dark}}; background: #{{Sapphire color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[File:Colo May.png|60px]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Sapphire color dark}}; background: #{{Sapphire color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:XD May RS.png|80px]]
| style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{Sapphire color dark}}; background: #{{Sapphire color light}}; width:96px; height:96px"| [[Image:XD May Em.png|80px]]
|- align=center style="font-size: 80%;"
| May's sprite from {{Colorlink|Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Versions|000}}
| May's back sprite from {{Colorlink|Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Versions|000}}
| May's sprite from {{Colorlink|Pokémon Emerald Version|000}}
| May's back sprite from {{Colorlink|Pokémon Emerald Version|000}}
| Image of May from {{Colorlink|Pokémon Colosseum|000}}
| A headshot of May from {{Colorlink|Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness|000|Pokémon XD}} (R/S variant)
| A headshot of May from {{Colorlink|Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness|000|Pokémon XD}} (E variant)
|}
{{-}}

==Other names for May==
The default names for May as the female playable character in the games are as follows:
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #88a; border-collapse: collapse;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{sapphire color}};"
! Language !! Ruby !! Sapphire !! Emerald
|- valign="top"
|| English
||
* ''Terra''
* ''Kimmy''
* ''Nicola''
* ''Sara''
||
* ''Marina''
* ''Kimmy''
* ''Nicola''
* ''Sara''
||
{|
|-
|
* ''Allie''
* ''Aubree''
* ''Bella''
* ''Camila''
|
* ''Halie''
* ''Hazel''
* ''Jayla''
* ''Kimmy''
|
* ''Lianna''
* ''Lillie''
* ''Lucy''
* ''Monica''
|
* ''Nadine''
* ''Nicola''
* ''Ruthie''
* ''Sara''
|
* ''Tanja''
* ''Terra''
* ''Tiara''
* ''Yasmin''
|}
|- valign="top"
|| Japanese
||
* ムツミ ''Mutsumi''
* アイコ ''Aiko''
* マキコ ''Makiko''
* キョウコ ''Kyōko''
||
* ナミ ''Nami''
* アイコ ''Aiko''
* マキコ ''Makiko''
* キョウコ ''Kyōko''
||
{|
|-
|
* アイコ ''Aiko''
* アヤナ ''Ayana''
* アン ''Ann''
* エミィ ''Emy''
* カオリ ''Kaori''
* カレン ''Karen''
* キョウコ ''Kyōko''
* サエ ''Sae''
* スイ ''Sui''
* ジュリ ''Juri''
|
* チエミ ''Chiemi''
* チヨコ ''Chiyoko''
* テルコ ''Teruko''
* ナナエ ''Nanae''
* ヒナ ''Hina''
* マキコ ''Makiko''
* ミサコ ''Misako''
* ムツミ ''Mutsumi''
* モニカ ''Monica''
* ユウメ ''Yūme''
|}
|- valign="top"
|| German
||
* ''Petra''
* ''Tanja''
* ''Andrea''
* ''Sara''
||
* ''Martina''
* ''Tanja''
* ''Andrea''
* ''Sara''
||
{|
|-
|
* ''Andrea''
* ''Beate''
* ''Carolin''
* ''Claudia''
|
* ''Denise''
* ''Gabi''
* ''Eva''
* ''Jamie''
|
* ''Jasmin''
* ''Katrin''
* ''Kerstin''
* ''Martina''
|
* ''Meike''
* ''Mirjam''
* ''Nadine''
* ''Petra''
|
* ''Sara''
* ''Simone''
* ''Svenja''
* ''Tanja''
|}
|- valign="top"
|| Spanish
||
* ''Teresa''
* ''Raquel''
* ''Mariau''
* ''Sara''
||
* ''Marina''
* ''Raquel''
* ''Mariau''
* ''Sara''
||
|- valign="top"
|| French
||
* ''Solène''
* ''Agnès''
* ''Claire''
* ''Sophie''
||
* ''Marine''
* ''Agnès''
* ''Claire''
* ''Sophie''
||
{|
|-
|
* ''Edith''
* ''Lilly''
* ''Tania''
* ''Cindy''
|
* ''Fanny''
* ''Cathy''
* ''Bella''
* ''Solène''
|
* ''Janyce''
* ''Maeva''
* ''Sophie''
* ''Roxane''
|
* ''Claire''
* ''Cynthia''
* ''Agnès''
* ''Pauline''
|
* ''Ariane''
* ''Nadine''
* ''Monica''
* ''Maud''
|}
|- valign="top"
|| Italian
||
* ''Teresa''
* ''Annie''
* ''Elisa''
* ''Sara''
||
* ''Marina''
* ''Annie''
* ''Elisa''
* ''Sara''
|
|}

==Counterparts==
===In the anime===
[[File:MayDiamondPearl.png|thumb|right|May's {{an|May|anime counterpart}}]] In the anime, a {{an|May|character based on May}} was {{Ash}}'s traveling companion throughout the [[Advanced Generation]] series.

===In the manga===
Her counterpart in the [[Pokémon Adventures]] manga is {{adv|Sapphire}} who, unlike her other counterparts, takes up gym challenges and is an all-around tomboy thanks to a traumatic incident with {{adv|Ruby}} where a {{p|Salamence}} attacked them when they were children. She does have a feminine side however, as is shown in later volumes.

A counterpart to May, {{OBP|Sapphire|Pokémon Ruby-Sapphire}}, appears in the [[Pokémon Ruby-Sapphire]] manga. Just like {{an|May|May's anime counterpart}}, she is a {{pkmn|Coordinator}} who chooses {{p|Torchic}} as her [[starter Pokémon]].

Although they do not look alike, she has the same Japanese default name as {{OBP|Haruka|CCP}} from the [[Pokémon Chamo-Chamo ☆ Pretty ♪]] manga series. Likewise, Haruka is a {{pkmn|Coordinator}} who also chooses {{p|Torchic}} as her starter Pokémon, just like May's {{an|May|anime counterpart}}.

==Quotes==
===Match Call===
'''Strategy''' -
I'm not so good at battles.

'''Trainer's Pokémon''' -
I'll use any Pokémon!

'''Self-Introduction''' -
My Pokémon and I help my father's research.

==Trivia==
* When {{an|May}} returned in the {{pkmn|anime}} in ''[[DP075|Our Cup Runneth Over!]]'', her outfit was the one worn by her game counterpart in {{game|Emerald}}.
* Both {{ga|Brendan}}'s and May's {{v2|Emerald}} artwork feature them holding a [[Premier Ball]].
** Curiously, {{ga|Dawn}}'s and {{ga|Lucas}}'s {{v2|Platinum}} artwork feature them holding a {{DL|Poké Ball|Generation III Poké Balls|Repeat Ball}}, causing this situation to happen with two player characters in the third version of two consecutive generations.
* As the player, May or her male counterpart {{ga|Brendan}} are native to the [[Johto]] region.
* As the player character (along with {{ga|Brendan}}), they are the only set of player characters that have both a mother and a father present in the games. As a rival, this trait is shared with {{ga|Barry}}.
*May and Brendan are the only rivals whose [[starter Pokémon]] does not reach its final form.
**They are also the only rivals who can't be fought in rematches after the player defeats the [[Elite Four]].
 
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! Language
! Name
! Origin
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|Japanese
| ハルカ ''Haruka''
| From 春花 ''haruka'', spring flower. May also be taken as 遼 ''haruka'', far away, in relation to her possible father, [[Norman|Senri]] (千里), 1000 {{wp|li (length)|li}}.
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|English
| May
| Could be a reference to her Japanese name, as May is a month in spring.
|-
|French
| Flora
| Similar to ''Fleur'', which means "flower".
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|German
| Maike
| From ''Mai'', which means "May".
|-
|Italian
| Vera
| From ''primavera'', which means "spring".
|-
|Spanish
| Aura
| From ''aura'', a figure of speech that means "gentle breeze" and is commonly associated to spring, as in ''aura primaveral'' ("spring breeze").
|-
|Korean
| 봄이 ''Bom'i''
| 봄 means "spring"
|-
|Chinese (all versions)
| 小遥 ''Xiǎo Yáo''
| From 遥 ''haruka'', far away.
|}
 
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Talk:History of the Pokémon world

2010-11-13T17:20:52Z

Pocketfanmk: /* Generation V */

==Shaping this article==
I think this article needs to be redesigned... "history" is a bit of a general term - there are differences between the histories in different parts on the cannon (games, anime and different manga series have contradicted each other several times in the past). We need to make rules to decide what goes in and what doesn't...--[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|ElectAbuzzzz]] 12:37, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

It may not even be possible to write such an article since there is not much historical information, not to mention a good part of it is legend. (Then again, in this world it seems legends are generally true.) - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 15:17, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
:I think it's more accurate to say that the Pokemon that ''appear'' in legend are true. There's no solid evidence to say that the Sinnoh Myths aren't simply that: Myth. I feel that until Nintendo officially confirms that Arceus did in fact create the Universe, or any other legend, such as Regigigas moving the continents, we should treat them purely as myth and/or theory, and not include them with articles dealing with fact, such as this Timeline.--[[User:Dual|Dual]] 03:11, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

The timeline must have another sub article--[[User:Joshuamanimtim2|Snorlax]] 10:30, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Should the spinoff games (Colosseum, XD, Ranger, Snap...) fit in anywhere? There's not a lot of evidence linking those to the handheld games... is there any way to put them in? --[[User:Kayube|Kayube]] 04:09, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
:I doubt it. There is no indication that any events in the non-handheld games are canon to the basic storyline, so there's no real point to including it here. On another note, it's my personal opinion that this needs to be moved to a different article, because there isn't much of the history that has been confirmed; most of it, as has been mentioned, is legend and theory. Regardless, I'm going to try to clean this up a bit and Wikify it some. [[User:Vekter|Vekter]] 15:40, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
::Well, the Pokemon Ranger games seem to actually reference events from the games (and also is the reason why {{p|Manaphy}} even exists in the main games.) If we aren't going to count the Ranger games are canon to the basic storyline, then we shouldn't count Manaphy as canon, either, since that's the only EVENT pokemon in the main series that debuted in a side game/spinoff game rather than in the main game series. Besides, since we can't transfer any prior gen pokemon onto the R/S/E/FR/LG game packs, Pokemon Colosseum is currently the only legit way to even ACQUIRE Celebi (though this is only in the Japanese version), and it (as well as it's sequel, Gale of darkness) is also the only OTHER legit way to acquire Ho-Oh and Lugia if you didn't get the Mystic tickets in the Emerald/FR/LG versions. now, for games like Mystery dungeon, yes, those SHOULDN'T be counted as canon in there, since that's an Alt universe. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 13:04, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
:::What should NOT be considered canon is all this fan-made BS about Pokemon populations decreasing, when the unobtainables came into being, how Doduo/Dodrio came to have multiple heads, etc. -- [[User:Umbee|Umbee]] 22:01, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
::::Do you think the "Contemporary History" should be moved to a new article called "Timeline of events in the games"? This article is supposed to be about how the Pokémon Universe developed, not what happened in it afterwards.

== Can anyone state where it was said that the S.S. Tidal was created in the 1990s? ==

I need to know because the article said it was created in that time period, and yet I don't really recall the games even stating that it was created in the 1990s (In fact, I don't even recall it even mentioning the date of when it was created at all).
:Don't forget to sign your comment with four tildes <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. On to the subject i agree there is no mention of when it was built nor is there mention of its age and assume its age from the release date. So Any suggestions on what to do with it? [[User:Pterodactal|Pterodactal]] 07:00, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
::I seem to recall the ship was under construction during the journey portion of [[Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire|R/S/]][[Pokémon Emerald|E]]. [[User:Bardock|Bar]][[User_Talk:Bardock|dock]] 12:33, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

I created it. Sorry. But we could leave it as it is. [[User:Joshuamanimtim2|K.J.Boring]] 11:31, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

== Generation III ==

It should be sometime BEFORE Generation II and AFTER Generation I because Generation II states that STEEL is a NEWLY discovered type, and Generation III has steel types...[[Image:Ani475MS.gif]] <sc>'''[[User:Optimus35|Agent]] [[User talk:Optimus35|#448]]'''</sc> <sc>[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?limit=50&title=Special%3AContributions&contribs=user&target=Optimus35&namespace=0&year=&month=-1 ☆] | [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZPMmUEHFIU ♥]</sc>[[Image:Ani282MS.gif]][[Image:SpriteOptimus35.PNG|This will put you off eating for life!]] 12:30, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
:Here's how the Generations go in chronological order (This isn't merely fanon, it is supported by evidence from the various canons.)

Generation I→Generation III→→→Generation II→Generation IV

→=short time in betweeen →→→=long time in between

[[Image:164sMS.png]][[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny]][[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|?]][[Special:Contributions/Shiny Noctowl|!]] 13:22, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
:: This really puzzles me - I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just confused by this: how exactly are Generations in that order? I don't even understand how Generations I and II could have their timelines connected with III and IV... Ie: what is the canonical proof for this? (not because I'd doubt it - rather I'd love to know it, please) [[User:Sipulichu|Sipulichu]] 20:51, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

:I don't think that Steel is newly DISCOVERED type. It's just newly classified type out of those we actually had (the Steel Pokémon could be identified as Rock Pokémon before). The text in game may be mistranslated, since American Pokémon media loves to give us a shit about "new" Pokémon. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 13:26, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

== Moon Stone ==

What about "The Moon Stone"?
Of [[EP006|Clefairy and the Moon Stone]]:

"Seymour theorizes this is because both '''the Pokémon came from outer space''', and '''the Moon Stone was their spacecraft''' - which means the Stone belongs to the Pokémon, and the humans must leave it alone."

[[User:Mateussf|Mateussf]] 21:28, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

That was only in the animé. As far as I know, the whole "Pokémon came from outer-space" thing was never mentioned in any game.--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 23:59, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Except for MAYBE Deoxys and the Clefairy family

~~Weedle McHairybug~~

How about Jirachi? Comet=Outer Space --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 18:52, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

thanks for pointing him out, Theryguy512.
~~Weedle McHairybug~~

IIRC there is an NPC in the Space Center that mentions the theory in Generation III. I believe I've also seen this mentioned in other games, though I may be mistaken. [[User:Vekter|Vekter]] 15:43, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

:Lunatone and Solrock appearantly came from outer space as well. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 14:40, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

== Where did the bird trio go? Sinnoh. ==

Look at this, the legendary bird trio ( Articuno, Zapdos, Moltres ) is revealed to roam Sinnoh in Pokémon Platnum. These three, are missing in the GSC games (they can't be found in Kanto). So, they might have flown to Sinnoh. [[User:Joshuamanimtim2|K.J.Boring]] 04:55, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
:Maybe if someone actually says that in-game. Otherwise, it's speculation.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 05:03, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
:::No one says that those are the same birds though. The Frontier brains afterall have legendary birds aswell.
Forgot to sign name--[[User:Outrage DD|Outrage DD]] 23:26, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
::::In the anime as well, it's shown that there are multiple versions of legendaries (even in the same frame, a mother and baby Lugia come to mind). ←{'''[[User:Berrymaster|Berrymaster]]|[[User_talk:Berrymaster|Talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Berrymaster|Contrib]]'''}→ 23:28, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

==Clean-Up, Please?==

Going through this article, all I see is fan speculation and unusual conclusions. I for one would like to see some evidence of these claims, as many of them see totally made-up. For example: What connection to Kyogre and Manaphy have? And "herds" of Latios and Latias? As far as I remember, it's one for each player. I wouldn't say there were "herds" of Mewtwo, would you?
[[User:Me, Hurray!|Me, Hurray!]] 03:05, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

:Actually, the "Herds" of Latios and Latias was stated in the Pokedex Entries of Latios and Latias. Don't believe me? Try looking at the pokedex portion of their article. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 03:12, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
::[[Kyogre]] and [[Manaphy]] were both in Ranger of The Sea Temple ( i think thats what it was called)[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((Shut the **** up]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
::Mewtwo is the only successful clone (attempted by humans) of a Pokémon as far as we know. And we're 100% certain that he's the only Mewtwo out there. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 03:25, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
::And in the case of the games, it's also the only cloned pokemon, Period [even then, lab notes hinted that it wasn't even a clone {the whole "Mew Gave Birth" thing comes to mind}.] [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 00:17, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
:: Okay, okay, but I still think these should be referenced in the article. It is still true that most of the article is mere specualtion, however. [[User:Me, Hurray!|Me, Hurray!]] 04:32, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
:::Actually, I doubt that half of it is speculation. Most of it is from the games. Yeah, some of it is guessing for the dates, but that is why they have a large number of years separating the different sections, as the games don't give specific dates, except for that Arceus created the Pokémon universe. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 17:15, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
:::: Because everything mentioned in the games is meant to be taken literally. Yes. I see it now. Silly me.[[User:Me, Hurray!|Me, Hurray!]] 20:41, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
Sorry. I didn't mean for it to seem like that. When things are typed, they always sound different in the mind of somebody else. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 00:16, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
:: I'm sorry, I strayed away from the point. My only problem is that there is no evidence and there are no citations in the artical. It's alright pointing things out here in the talk page, but if there's no evidence in the artical itself then I don't think it meets certain standards. I'm really just requesting evidence.
:::We can't really cite the games, which is why there aren't any citations at the moment. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 21:22, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
::::You can ''sorta'' cite the games. Who to talk to and where to see what's said. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:14, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::True. But I think the citing that Me, Hurray is talking about is links and stuff. Or at least very specific descriptions of where they come from. Links we can't do for games, but yeah, I guess it would take some time, but we could find all of the people who tell us the random info. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 04:20, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::: Mentioning who gives the information in-game sounds like a satasfactory measure to me. at least then the information can be varified and proven correct. [[User:Me, Hurray!|Me, Hurray!]] 16:46, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

==Rotom==

it is never said that Rotom was made in the 70's, infact I taught [[Pluto]] discovered it in the 50's, so I think we should leave it blank until Platinum's out in english [[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamate]][[User Talk:Ultamatecharizard|Charizard]] 16:49, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
:I only knew he discovered it. In his youth. I didn't know there was a date involved. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 22:25, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
::I still don't get who put that in, I mean it would be diffrent it was ever said but I looked Rotom's page and it didn't say anything [[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamate]][[User Talk:Ultamatecharizard|Charizard]]
:::All you have to do is go through the editing history. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 20:31, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

==Multiple Mew!?==
Alright, who said that Mew were plentiful soon after the creation of the Pokémon world? And how does anyone know that [[Mew (Lucario and the Mystery of Mew)|this Mew]] is different from [[Mew (Mewtwo Strikes Back)|that Mew]]? It could just be a different voice actor. [[User:Palkiajosh|パルキアJosh]] 23:23, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
*Ok, about the reason why Mew from Mewtwo Strikes Back being different from the Mew from Lucario and the Mystery of Mew, it's for a couple of reasons. Yes, the voice doesn't necessarily mean much, however, MSB's Mew's Japanese VA was definitely in the 8th Movie as he (she? I don't really know the VA's gender) was the one who voiced Sir Aaron in that Movie. I mean, why would they give Mew a different VA (assuming that it IS the same one) if it's original VA is still very much available? Plus, the one from Movie 1 was very far from Kanto, and If this were the same mew, it would spend most of it's time inside of a Lake/Jungle than in a deciduous forest with a [[Tree of Beginning|Tree-like Rock formation]], not to mention that MSB's Mew lives a considerably far distance from Kanto, or heck, any of the regions that have been seen thus far, while LatMoM's Mew was located, if not in Kanto, then just barely beyond the border. As for the multiple parts, I'm guessing the fossilized remains of a Mew, as well as it being a genetic ancestor to every pokemon seems to answer that question.) [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 23:36, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
Don't forget that the first Mew was seen to be sleeping underwater, possibly for a long time, untill Mewtwo unleashed his power on the world, creating storms and kidnapping the Nurse Joy of the city. The most recent Mew, was seen to have been connected to the Tree of Beginning, so it should be assumed Mew can't be away from it for long periods of time (longer than seen in the movie). And it and the Tree are so closely connected, when Mew would be damaged in the first movie, the Tree would also sustain damage. And the first Mew is also living in the Johto area, not Kanto. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 21:54, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
Mew is the ancestor of all life. A being cannot breed with itself. Thus-multiple Mews-Mtn_Otter

== Lugia did what? ==

Who ever said Lugia actually created the 3 birds? just because it's the master trio doesn't mean it created them. --'''[[User:InuMimi|いぬ]][[User talk:InuMimi|みみ]]''' 23:42, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
:Well........now thats up to interpretation. I say no[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
::I agree. It doesn't say anywhere that he created them. It just says that a Lugia has the power to destroy (Pokédex entries) or save the world (movie), depending on the situation. It only has control over the birds and their powers, and I think they only obey him out of respect for a higher being. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 16:13, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

== Cleanup! ==

This article is really very well done as it sums up everything so those supposed continuity errors are straingtened out (such as the "Which came first? Arceus or Mew?" paradox). But I really think it needs a cleanup. All it has are random dot points on Pokemon that aren't related. Clean it up!
Also, fan assumptions should be excluded! It's annoying to see speculation assumed as fact. [[User:Bttsstewart|Bttsstewart]] 15:30, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
:Well, we've been trying to do that for a while. And if you want it cleaned up, then don't just tell people to do it. You need to do something too. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 16:10, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
::There really isn't a paradox concerning Arceus and Mew. It is ''believed'' (according to Dex entries) that Mew is the ancestor of Pokémon, but it clearly states in the DPPt origin story that Arceus was born before every other Pokémon (before the universem even). Arceus created Mew, ta-dah! And like [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] said, you can't just tell people to do things you want done. [[User:LordArceus|'''Lord''']][[User talk:LordArceus|'''Arc''']][[Special:Contributions/LordArceus|'''eus''']] 16:12, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
I've had an interesting theory, which could solve the Arceus/Mew paradox. Arceus may have created the universe, but what if Mew came around before the universe was created, and Arceus sort of descended from it? Also, Mew is the ANSCESTOR of all Pokémon, not necassarily their creator. So if Arceus created Dialga and Palkia and the Lake Trio, then they are still anscestors of Mew, because Arceus is.

Please remember to sign comments. I realise that there's no Mew/Arceus paradox, not really. I just mean this article can definitively solve the arguing. (I've seen A LOT of arguing on the subject.) [[User:Bttsstewart|Bttsstewart]] 14:33, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

To answer above from Rocket Admin Hunter Blade & LordArceus): I didn't think I was 'qualified' enough to contribute to the cleanup. I though you sort of had to be in the webiste 'inner ring'. Haha. I guess that's silly. I've just had a look and I think it's fine as it is. It's just the allignment of the dot points that's a little dodgy. [[User:Bttsstewart|Bttsstewart]] 14:42, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
:The only "qualification" you need, is the ability to not get carried away and screw everything up. Other than that, you should be able to do a lot, such as grammar mistakes, spelling, punctuation, and moving text to the correct sections. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 22:11, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

== Celebi, Jirachi and Shaymin ==

Where did the "theory" come around supposing that Celebi, Jirachi and Shaymin were all born at the same time, and after the invention of the Unown writing system? There's no evidence to support this, so why even include it? [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 22:55, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

== Pictures ==

I think it would improve this article a great deal of some pictures were included. It would give people more of an idea of what they were reading about. If anyone has any pictures of ancient Sinnoh region tapestries, or anything similar, be sure to add it to the article! [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 22:55, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

== Kyogre Problem ==

How could Kyogre have expanded the sea with the help of Manaphy and Lugia when it went to sleep millions of years before, and wasn't woken up again until the events of Generation III? I think that, considering the fact that the Pokémon world is very similar to our own, the sea was probably created the same way that Earth's sea was, and that the theory of it being created by Pokémon is simply a legend. There is definately no archaelogical evidence that it was expanded by Pokémon! Maybe, until we are certain, we shouldn't mention how the sea was created like it is fact. [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 22:55, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
:Please sign your edits. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 19:39, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
::This is all based off Dex entries and such. Kyogre created the oceans, not Manaphy or Lugia[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]

==Writing System==
The article claims that the first writing system was created 1500 years before Generation 1. If this is based on present time, the first writing system was created in 500 AD. I haven't done any research yet, but I'm just noting that in our world, writing was created in about 2500 BC (Egyptians). This would be 4500 years before the present. [[User:Firemaker|Firemaker]] 23:29, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
Also the information about the pokemon (Mamoswine, Farfetch'd, Magikarp); is that true? [[User:Firemaker|Firemaker]] 23:29, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
:Writing first came about around 3400-3000 BC. It's still disputed wether Egypt or Mesopotamia had the oldest writing system. And for your second question, yes. Mamoswine are based off of woolly mammoths, so their history is almost the same as in our world. Farfetch'd have been mentioned somewhere, for their history, but I can't remember. And then Magikarp are the easiest. Many of their TCG Pokédex info boxes talk about it. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 23:48, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

== Gigas? ==

Didn't IT make the three, not humans? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:16, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
:It says that? I haven't been paying attention then... They came around naturally, so nobody really created them, not even Regigigas. Although Platinum DOES say he did, the problem is that the Pt. Dex entry goes against what the Gen. III Dex entries say. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 18:48, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
::I think it says in the Gen III Pokédex entries that humans created the first three Regis. Regigigas, on the other hand, came into being naturally, and helped to shape the continents. That's what I always though anyway. [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 19:55, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
:::I read that Gigas did the continents, but it became too strong so humans made the Regis and used them as keys to seal it away. Of course, that may have come from this site.... — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 08:23, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

::::That's the thing... most of the stuff on Bulba is from other things here... but in this case, it's hard to decide. Because how can it control the Regis if they were made by humans? Either mind control because they're so similar, or the humans made three original Regis, and then Gigas made more. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 23:16, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
:::I'm not seeing where in the Gen III Pokedex entries it says that humans created them... Registeel and Regirock's say that humans sealed them away, but have nothing that I can see about humans creating them. Unless I am misreading horribly, that part of the timeline needs to be changed. - [[User:C.Olimar788|C.Olimar788]] 21:52, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
:::The Pokedexes definitely don't say that humans made the Regi.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 21:26, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

== Prehistory and Recent History ==

I personally think this article needs to be either fixed up, deleted, or at least protected, especially the Prehistory and Recent History sections. I mean, at least part of those sections are true, but the rest of it is rubbish. Who ever said the Regis were made in their respective ages? Part of it has nothing to do with Pokémon: why is Apollo 11 even in here? I just want your opinion. [[User:Leafstorm151|Leafstorm151]] 18:26, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

:Because. The Pokémon world has some things tied in with ours. And in the Gen I games and their remakes, a guy talks about buying a color TV just to see Neil Armstrong land on the moon. And the Regis is most likely speculation, but at the same time not. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 19:02, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
::Regis were made by Gigas then Gigas was sealed and the Regis got exported to Hoenn to keep them away. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:50, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

== What about Damos? ==

It is stated that {{p|Arceus}} "FIRST" fall into never ending sleep BEFORE the first humans appeared ehh...but in the case of Movie12 Arceus meets Damos, a human, what about that?.....I mean that the first humans appeared after Arceus fall into never ending sleep then....i think we should change that section..."[[Sceptile (Pokémon)|☆]][[User:AngelGuardian|Angel]][[User talk:AngelGuardian|Guardian]][[Brendan (game)|☆]]" 07:33, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
:Speculation=no. Until we see movie 12 nothing gets added.--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[User talk:RexRacer|Racer''']] 07:35, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

So you mean that whole story of Movie12, of Damos or whatever happens was all because of manga? i mean you get all the information on manga?"[[Sceptile (Pokémon)|☆]][[User:AngelGuardian|Angel]][[User talk:AngelGuardian|Guardian]][[Brendan (game)|☆]]" 07:40, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
:Until Movie 12 gets released there can still be doubts. Just wait. I'm sure everything will be explained in time. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:44, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Arceus, as the creator of the space-time continuum, could logically travel through time in a manner similar it Celibi or Dialga. Also Arceus may have created clones of itself to manage the world while it is asleep.-Mtn_otter

== Whats with the Humans land on the moon ==

Is this Just for fun, because it has no relation with pokemon at all... ---> [[User:223david|'''223''']][[Special:Contributions/223david|☆]][[User talk:223david|'''Dåv]d''']]''' 12:29, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

:If you've EVER played R/B/Y, or FRLG, you'd know. An old guy in the [[Pewter Museum of Science]] mentions getting a color TV just for that moment. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 16:24, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

::oh.... never played anything other than gen 4 :P ---> [[User:223david|'''223''']][[Special:Contributions/223david|☆]][[User talk:223david|'''Dåv]d''']]''' 02:30, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

:::Well then, now you know. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 02:31, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

== Pictures! ==

I just added some pictures to the article, relevant to each era in the history of the Pokémon World. It makes it look a lot more interesting, don't you think? [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 17:58, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

== Leaf ==

Shouldn't we remove Leaf from the article? HG/SS proves that Red's story is the canon one, and Leaf doesn't exist in Red's continuity because she never appeared during his quest. - [[User:Crystal Master|Crystal Master]]

:Absolutely not, unless we also remove {{ga|Kris}} due to non-interaction with {{ga|Gold}} in {{v2|Crystal}}. And we're not removing Kris. Just because Leaf doesn't appear in {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}} doesn't mean we should treat Leaf as if she never existed. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 20:04, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

::I left Kris there just in case that for whatever reason you consider Pokémon Crystal to be canon rather than the remakes (which would still mean the Leaf isn't part of continuity).
::And even if you're going to assume that Leaf existed somewhere, the article is still wrong because she can't have had the same story she had in FR/LG. That would mean that both Red and Leaf had the same mom, the same house, the same rival and the same events within the same continuity, which makes no sense. If she was part of continuity, she would have a different role from Red's, like May and Dawn had in Brendan and Lucas' respective stories. Moreover, the article states that she defeated Green/Blue in the Pokémon League and became the new champion, which can't have happened, considering that Blue/Green states in HG/SS that the trainer who defeated him shortly after he became champion was Red, not Leaf.
::Lastly, the article should be about writing what we know that happened, not what might have happened. We know that Red's story is canon and Leaf's isn't, as they can't both happen in the same continuity. Therefore, we know that Leaf never appeared in continuity. That there's a Leaf somewhere in the established continuity is unfounded speculation, no matter how much some people want her to be part of it. - [[User:Crystal Master|Crystal Master]]

:::There are absolutely no acceptable grounds in removing all references to Leaf from the article. By removing parts from the article, you're trying to imply Leaf never existed to begin with, and for that to be true, FireRed/LeafGreen would have to have had only a male player character. Either that or there would have to have been no FireRed/LeafGreen (and if that were to be the case, there would be no HeartGold/SoulSilver either).

:::Those parts from the article you're trying to have removed in no way imply Leaf exists in HeartGold/SoulSilver; to have any area of the article imply any involvement from Leaf in HeartGold/SoulSilver, Leaf would have to be mentioned in one of the sections further below, and last I saw, there weren't any such mentions.

:::In conclusion: Leaf exists, and she always will. The fact HeartGold/SoulSilver doesn't mention her does not change that. Where Leaf is already mentioned, she should be. Where Leaf shouldn't be mentioned, she's already not. Trying to erase all traces of her existence from the article is akin to vandalism. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 23:58, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

::::Oh, ok. So you weren't saying that there was a Leaf somewhere in the HG/SS timeline. My bad.
::::Anyway, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this article about the timeline of the Pokémon world? Isn't it about making a recollection of the canonical events in the established continuity and making it the less ambiguous possible (ie: saying that "Brendan/May" became the Hoenn champion only because we don't have confirmation about which story is the canonical one, which is different from the case in FR/LG)?
::::Also, I thought that the most recent games that rewrite history take priority over the older ones. In the RSE section we say that the player calmed down Groudon and Kyogre with Rayquaza's help (as depicted in Emerald), not that s/he "stopped Groudon/Kyogre" (as depicted in Ruby and Sapphire respectively), because we use the most recent rewrite of the RSE story, Emerald, as canon. Likewise, shouldn't the GS remakes, which established that Red's story happened in the timeline but Leaf's didn't, take priority over FR/LG (as HG/SS are the most recent games)?
::::Edit: I'm not saying that Leaf doesn't exist. I'm saying that she doesn't exist in the continuity established by the overall timeline (if you believe HGSS or GSC), which I think this article is supposed to be about. - [[User:Crystal Master|Crystal Master]]

Perhaps instead of rewording the article to not mention Leaf, we reword the Gen III section to be ambiguous as to it's version:
:"After defeating Hoenn's eight Gym Leaders and, with the help of Steven and Wallace, calming Groudon and/or Kyogre after they are awakened by Team Magma/Team Aqua, respectively, he/she...."
AFAIK, Platinum's story is different from Pearl and Diamond, yet no mention of Giratina is made. Just keep the version ambiguous. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 03:07, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

:Drop me some drafts and I might consider it. I'd really want the text to securely take all player bases into consideration yet not allow possible relentless editing to try to make it look like one player base never existed in the canon. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 03:19, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
::There's a draft right there, just replace the one sentence. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 03:24, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

== Protection?! ==

Thanks a lot! I've been working really hard on improving this article over the last few months and now it's been protected! What is the reasoning behind this? --[[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon777''''']] '' 20:21, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

:Ever think about [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=History_of_the_Pok%C3%A9mon_world&action=history checking]? '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 22:25, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
::Page now unlocked as both parties in the edit war reached a truce. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:27, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
:::Yay, I can edit again now, thanks! Sorry if I came across a bit impolite before. --[[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon777''''']] '' 10:24, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

== Colosseum and XD ==

how do we know it takes place 2 years after Gen 2 and 4?--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 18:33, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
:Not quite. According to the page, Colosseum takes place sometime between Generation I/III and II/IV, which makes sense, and then XD ''is'' supposed to be set quite a few years from Colosseum, although I don't know how we got "two years after Gen IV" specifically. [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 19:04, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
Ok, thanx. I just thought someone just put that there without proof.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 19:16, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

== Can anyone tell me how is it possible for Generation II and IV happened at the same time? ==
Its not possible because Jasmine is in the Sinnoh Region right?--[[User:Jason avelino|Jason avelino]] 10:42, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

:People just say that because they believe the odd-numbered generations take place at the same time. Yet there's zero proof of even that--no timeframes are ever stated for when the games that take place in either [[Hoenn]] or [[Sinnoh]] take place. For all we know, the [[Generation III]] Hoenn games takes place five years after [[Generation II]] and the [[Generation IV]] Sinnoh games take place 10 years further down the road, and yet the technology of their respective platforms allows them to trade freely with the remakes in their generation that do take place at the same time as their originals (addtionally, in Hoenn's case, it can even freely trade with two console games that take place years apart). Besides, where was it stated that the [[red Gyarados]] in the {{2v2|Diamond|Pearl}} intro is the one from the [[Lake of Rage]]? Right, nowhere. Yet people are using such a baseless assumption as evidence of the even-numbered generations taking place at or around the same time.

:The only times timeframes between two games are ever stated are the case between [[Generation I]] and [[Generation II]] being three years apart, and {{pkmn|Colosseum}} and {{pkmn|XD: Gale of Darkness}} being five years apart. The fact that both of the latter are compatible with all handheld Generation III games just goes to show that we don't know when the Hoenn and Sinnoh games take place, and that all assumptions of them taking place at the same time as the remakes in their repsective generations are baseless and shouldn't be trusted. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 13:02, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Ok thanks for answering my question...--[[User:Jason avelino|Jason avelino]] 05:35, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
:Timeframe for Sinnoh, by the way. Rowan returned from Kanto after four years of study with Oak. Red Gyarados specials were still airing on TV. Sinnoh's either during or shortly after the story of Johto. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:42, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

:Not necessarily. The Red Gyarados report had Mount Coronet in the background. That means the Red Gyarados couldn't have been in Johto. [[User:Edge578|Edge578]] 18:46, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

== Rayquaza from MINERALS? ==

Where the heck is this from? None of the Pokedexes mention it, and well, there aren't minerals in the ozone layer. They'd be much, much too heavy. Even if a volcano erupts and sprays ash (not minerals) into the air, it doesn't reach the ozone layer.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 21:28, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

== Regis Created By Humans? ==
Where does it say that the Regis were made by man? Or that they were made in the three eras (except for Regice)? In fact, Registeel is said to be "tens of thousands" of years old, according to the Pokedex, whereas the Iron Age was just 3,000 years ago. [[User:Plasma|Plasma]] 20:06, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

==Generation V==
Due to the fact that Cynthia and Looker mention Lucas/Dawn in passing, it can be safely assumed that Generation V takes place around the same time as XD. [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]]) 01:11, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
:Not necessarily. It can be assumed to take place after Platinum, but we have no idea exactly how long after. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 12:06, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
Can we edit the Generation IV timeline by shifting the focus to Platinum's storyline rather than Diamond/Pearl with Platinum in parentheses? I believe Cynthia says something about the trainer who battled Giratina, which isn't in the DP Storyline. [[User:Pocketfanmk|Pocketfanmk]] 17:20, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Wally

2010-10-31T20:33:07Z

Pocketfanmk:

{{CharInfobox|
color={{emerald color}} |
corecolor={{emerald color light}} |
bordercolor={{emerald color dark}} |
name=Wally |
jname=ミツル|
tmname=Mitsuru |
image=Wally.png |
size=120px |
caption=Art from Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald |
gender=Male |
hometown=[[Petalburg City]] |
region=[[Hoenn]] |
relatives=[[Wanda]] (cousin), unnamed aunt and uncle, unnamed mother and father |
trainer=yes |
trainerclass={{pkmn|Trainer}}, [[Rival]] |
numpkmncaught=Varies with canon |
game=yes |
generation={{Gen|III}} |
games=[[Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Versions|Ruby]], [[Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Versions|Sapphire]], {{v2|Emerald}} |
leader=no |
team=no |
brain=no |
anime=no |
}}
'''Wally''' (Japanese: '''ミツル''' ''Mitsuru'') is one of the two [[rival]] characters in Pokémon {{v2|Ruby and Sapphire|s}} and Pokémon {{v2|Emerald}}, the other being {{ga|Brendan}}/{{ga|May}}. He is the first rival ''not'' to be the player's first {{pkmn|battle}}, and the first rival not to have a [[starter Pokémon]].

Wally is a young, sickly boy who just moved to [[Petalburg City]]. Despite his illness, his dream is to train {{OBP|Pokémon|species}}.

His illness is never explained but his symptoms appear to clear up in clean air, so it may be {{wp|asthma}}.

==In the games==
Wally was a sick young boy who asked [[Norman]], the Petalburg [[Gym Leader]], to help him catch a Pokémon before he moves to [[Verdanturf Town]] to live with his aunt and uncle.

[[Norman]] allowed his child, the {{player}} of {{game2|Ruby|Sapphire|Emerald}} to assist Wally, and loaned Wally a {{p|Zigzagoon}}.

Using this, Wally was able to capture a {{p|Ralts}}. This is the catching tutorial of Ruby, Sapphire and Emerald. Ironically, it is the player who is teaching Wally to catch Pokémon.

Wally later shows up again in [[Mauville City]], pleading with his uncle to let him challenge [[Wattson]]. He battles the player to prove his strength, but loses.

Wally eventually runs away from home and challenges the player at the end of {{ho|Victory Road}} in [[Ever Grande City]], seemingly totally recovered from his illness. He remains there, and it is possible to fight him several times per day.

==={{DL|PokéNav|Trainer's Eyes}}/{{DL|PokéNav|Match Call}}===
'''PKMN Trainer Wally{{sup|RS}} / PKMN Lover Wally {{sup|E}}'''
:'''Strategy'''
:We let it all hang out.
:'''Trainer's Pokémon'''
:{{p|Ralts|The 1st Pokémon I caught}}.
:'''Self-Introduction'''
:Pokémon and I have grown stronger together.

===Pokémon===
This listing is for Wally's Pokémon in the video games in which he has appeared.

====Cutscene====
[[Norman]] loans this Pokémon to Wally to show him how to catch Pokémon.
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====First battle====
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====Second battle====
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====Third battle====
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====Fourth battle====
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|pokemon=Gardevoir
|gender=male
|level=51
|type1=Psychic
|ability=Synchronize
|move1=Psychic
|move1type=Psychic
|move1cat=Status
|move2=Double Team
|move2type=Normal
|move2cat=Status
|move3=Future Sight
|move3type=Psychic
|move3cat=Status
|move4=Calm Mind
|move4type=Psychic
|move4cat=Status
}}
}}

====Fifth battle====
{{Party
|color={{emerald color light}}
|headcolor=FFFFFF
|bordercolor={{emerald color}}
|sprite=Wally_game.PNG
|prize={{Pdollar}}3240
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Wally
|game=RSE
|location=Victory Road
|pokemon=5
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=334
|pokemon=Altaria
|gender=male
|level=53
|type1=Dragon
|type2=Flying
|ability=Natural Cure
|move1=Safeguard
|move1type=Normal
|move1cat=Status
|move2=Dragon Dance
|move2type=Dragon
|move2cat=Status
|move3=Aerial Ace
|move3type=Flying
|move3cat=Physical
|move4=DragonBreath
|move4type=Dragon
|move4cat=Special}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=301
|pokemon=Delcatty
|gender=female
|level=52
|type1=Normal
|ability=Cute Charm
|move1=Sing
|move1type=Normal
|move1cat=Status
|move2=Faint Attack
|move2type=Dark
|move2cat=Special
|move3=Charm
|move3type=Normal
|move3cat=Status
|move4=Assist
|move4type=Normal
|move4cat=Status
}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=315
|pokemon=Roselia
|gender=male
|level=53
|type1=Grass
|type2=Poison
|ability=Poison Point
|move1=Leech Seed
|move1type=Grass
|move1cat=Status
|move2=Toxic
|move2type=Poison
|move2cat=Status
|move3=Magical Leaf
|move3type=Grass
|move3cat=Status
|move4=Giga Drain
|move4type=Grass
|move4cat=Status
}}
|pokemon4={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=082
|pokemon=Magneton
|gender=genderless
|level=50
|type1=Electric
|type2=Steel
|ability=Magnet Pull
|move1=Thunderbolt
|move1type=Electric
|move1cat=Status
|move2=Tri Attack
|move2type=Normal
|move2cat=Special
|move3=Screech
|move3type=Normal
|move3cat=Status
|move4=Supersonic
|move4type=Normal
|move4cat=Status
}}
|pokemon5={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=282
|pokemon=Gardevoir
|gender=male
|level=54
|type1=Psychic
|ability=Synchronize
|move1=Psychic
|move1type=Psychic
|move1cat=Status
|move2=Double Team
|move2type=Normal
|move2cat=Status
|move3=Future Sight
|move3type=Psychic
|move3cat=Status
|move4=Calm Mind
|move4type=Psychic
|move4cat=Status
}}
}}

====Sixth battle====
{{Party
|color={{emerald color light}}
|headcolor=FFFFFF
|bordercolor={{emerald color}}
|sprite=Wally_game.PNG
|prize={{Pdollar}}3420
|class=Pokémon Trainer
|name=Wally
|game=RSE
|location=Victory Road
|pokemon=5
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=334
|pokemon=Altaria
|gender=male
|level=56
|type1=Dragon|type2=Flying
|ability=Natural Cure
|move1=Aerial Ace|move1type=Flying
|move2=Safeguard|move2type=Normal
|move3=DragonBreath|move3type=Dragon
|move4=Dragon Dance|move4type=Dragon}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=301
|pokemon=Delcatty
|gender=female
|level=55
|type1=Normal
|ability=Cute Charm
|move1=Sing|move1type=Normal
|move2=Faint Attack|move2type=Dark
|move3=Charm|move3type=Normal
|move4=Assist|move4type=Normal|move4cat=Status
}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=315
|pokemon=Roselia
|gender=male
|level=56
|type1=Grass
|type2=Poison
|ability=Natural Cure
|move1=Leech Seed|move1type=Grass
|move2=Toxic|move2type=Poison
|move3=Magical Leaf|move3type=Grass
|move4=Giga Drain|move4type=Grass
}}
|pokemon4={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=082
|pokemon=Magneton
|level=53
|type1=Electric|type2=Steel
|ability=Magnet Pull
|move1=Thunderbolt|move1type=Electric
|move2=Tri Attack|move2type=Normal
|move3=Screech|move3type=Normal
|move4=Supersonic|move4type=Normal
}}
|pokemon5={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Ruby
|ndex=282
|pokemon=Gardevoir
|gender=male
|level=57
|type1=Psychic
|ability=Synchronize
|move1=Psychic|move1type=Psychic
|move2=Double Team|move2type=Normal
|move3=Future Sight|move3type=Psychic
|move4=Calm Mind|move4type=Psychic
}}
}}

===Sprites===
{| align="center" style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{emerald color}}; background: #{{emerald color light}};"
|- align=center
|style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{emerald color}}; background: #FFF; width:80px"| [[File:Wally_game.PNG]]
|style="{{roundy|80px}} border: 2px solid #{{emerald color}}; background: #FFF; width:80px"| [[File:RSE_Wally_back.png]]
|- align=center style="font-size: 80%;"
| Wally sprite from {{color2|000|Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Versions|Ruby, Sapphire}} and {{color2|000|Pokémon Emerald Version|Emerald}}
| Wally sprite from {{color2|000|Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Versions|Ruby, Sapphire}} and {{color2|000|Pokémon Emerald Version|Emerald}}
|}
==In the Pokémon Adventures manga==
[[Image:Wally Adventures.png|thumb|200px|right|Wally and his team in the manga]]
Wally's first Pokémon was a Ralts that {{adv|Ruby}} loaned him, and a {{p|Kecleon}} he caught himself. His "starter" Pokémon was a {{p|Treecko}} which he rescued after [[Professor Birch]] lost it in a flood.

Wally asked Norman to teach him about Pokémon and help him catch one, but Norman refused after seeing how sickly Wally was.

Ruby seemed to take quickly to Wally, possibly because Norman didn't like Wally, and decided to help the other boy. Ruby loaned Wally his Ralts, nicknamed "Ruru", and Wally was able to capture a Kecleon.

Unfortunately, before Ruru could be returned to her rightful owner, an earthquake caused Ruby to fall into the sea.

The next time Wally is seen, he is rescuing the old man who looks for [[Mirage Island]] in Pacifidlog Town, from {{p|Kyogre}}'s flood. It would seem that Wally had managed to recover much from his illness by then, and had been traveling around [[Hoenn]] for quite some time.

Norman, who had just been passing by, finally agreed to take Wally on as a student, and told him to come to the [[Sky Pillar]].

There, Norman revealed that what he had been training Ruby for since he was very young was to help Norman awaken {{p|Rayquaza}}. Norman could only accomplish this with someone the size of a 10-year old boy.

Even though he's healthier, Wally wears a suit with a respirator built into it, showing that his sickness could be some form of asthma.

Wally acquired his {{p|Cacnea}} while traveling through the desert, his Roselia on {{rt|117|Hoenn}}, and Norman gave him his {{p|Flygon}}. Most of this occurred off-panel.

Wally was once believed to be a representation of {{v2|Emerald}} because of his all-green team and mainly green wardrobe. However, he's not a [[Pokédex Holder]] and he debuted long before any announcements of Pokémon Emerald appeared, which means he wasn't intended to be Emerald representation. Due to that, a {{Adv|Emerald|new character}} was created for that role.

===Pokémon===
[[Image:Wally respirator suit.png|right|thumb|Wally's respirator suit]]
This listing is for Wally's Pokémon in the Pokémon Adventures manga.

===On hand===
{{TrainerPoké
|gender=male
|trainer=Wally
|pkmn=Kecleon
|type1=Normal
|img=Wally Kecleon.png
|img_size=100px
|epnum=PS187
|epname=A VS. Kecleon
|desc={{p|Kecleon}} was the first Pokémon that wally caught with {{adv|Ruby}}'s help. He uses his long tongue to grab objects from a distance. He has a Jolly nature and has the ability {{a|Color Change}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|gender=male
|trainer=Wally
|pkmn=Cacturne
|type1=Grass
|type2=Dark
|img=Wally Cacturne.png
|img_size=100px
|epnum=PS240
|epname=VS. Treecko
|desc={{p|Cacturne}} was caught as {{p|Cacnea}} and evolved into a Cacturne both offscreen. He was first seen rowing a boat during the flood caused by {{p|Kyogre}}. He has a Lax nature. His only known move is {{m|Needle Arm}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|gender=male
|trainer=Wally
|pkmn=Roselia
|img_size=100px
|type1=Grass
|type2=Poison
|img=Wally Roselia.png
|epnum=PS241
|epname=VS Treecko
|desc={{p|Roselia}} is another of Wally's Pokémon that was caught offscreen. He has a Timid nature and knows the moves {{m|Poison Sting}} and {{m|Aromatherapy}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Wally
|pkmn=Flygon
|type1=Ground
|type2=Dragon
|img=Wally Flygon.png
|epnum=PS240
|epname=VS. Treecko
|desc={{p|Flygon}} was originally a Pokémon that belonged to Norman (which is odd due to him being a Normal type Trainer) that was given to him during his climb of the [[Sky Pillar]]. Its only known move is {{m|Sand Tomb}}.}}

===Released===
{{TrainerPoké
|main=yes
|gender=male
|trainer=Emerald
|pkmn=Grovyle
|type1=Grass
|img=Wally Grovyle.png
|epnum=PS240
|epname=VS. Treecko
|desc={{p|Grovyle}} was a Treecko that was intended for {{adv|Emerald}} but due to the flood caused by {{p|Kyogre}} he ended up lost at sea and eventually ending up in Wally's hands. Wally used him in his climb up [[Sky Pillar]] where he evolved into a Grovyle, however he became lost in sea again when {{p|Rayquaza}}'s awakening sent him flying into the water, unable to be returned to [[Professor Birch]]. He eventually washed up on a desert island where he evolved and was knocked out by [[Guile Hideout]] and sent to the [[Battle Frontier]]. He then became {{adv|Emerald}}'s main Pokémon after being reacquired in the {{ho|Battle Factory}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|gender=female
|trainer=Ruby
|pkmn=Kirlia
|type1=Psychic
|img=Wally Ruru.png
|epnum=PS181
|epname=VS. Cacnea
|desc={{p|Kirlia|Ruru}} is a Pokémon that originally belonged to {{adv|Ruby}}, but she was lent to Wally so that he could use her to capture his very own Pokémon They were then separated by an earthquake and Ruru ended up in Wally's hands. She evolved offscreen during Wally's training on the [[Sky Pillar]] (which he did not want to happen) and stayed in Wally's possesion until ''[[PS267|The Final Battle VIII]]'' where Wally returned her to Ruby. She has a Gentle nature and the ability {{a|Synchronize}}.}}

==In the TCG==
This listing is of cards mentioning or featuring Wally or his Pokémon in the [[Pokémon Trading Card Game]].
{| {{bluetable}}
|- style="background: #{{emerald color light}};"
!Name
!Type
!Level
!Rarity
!Set
!Set no.
|-
| rowspan=2 | {{TCG ID|EX Sandstorm|Wally's Training|89}} || rowspan=2 | T || rowspan=2 | - || rowspan=2 | {{rar|Uncommon}} || {{TCG|EX Sandstorm}} || 130/146
|-
| {{TCG|EX Emerald}} || 85/106
|}

==Trivia==
* Though he is never classified as a "rival" in the games themselves, Wally essentially takes the place of {{ga|Brendan}}/{{ga|May}} as the player's rival after he/she decides to help with [[Professor Birch]]'s studies rather than be a competitive Trainer.
* He shares the same Chinese name with {{ga|Dawn}}.
* Wally is the only [[rival]] character to not have a Pokémon received from the professor of that region, not counting {{ga|Silver}}, who stole his.

===Names===
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #88a; border-collapse: collapse;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{emerald color light}};"
! Language
! Name
! Origin
|-
| Japanese
| ミツル ''Mitsuru''
| 蔓 ''Tsuru'', vine. Can mean "growing", "docile".
|-
| English
| Wally
|
|-
| French
| Timmy
| Probably refers to the word "Timid"- which describes how Wally acts.
|-
| German
| Heiko
| German form of the English name "Henry".
|-
| Italian
| Lino
|
|-
| Spanish
| Blasco
|
|-
| Korean
| 민진 ''Minjin''
|
|-
| Chinese (Taiwan)
| 小光 ''Xiǎo Guāng''
| From 光 ''hikari'', means "young light."
|}

{{Rival characters}}
{{NPC|hoenn|hoenn=yes}}
{{Wally's Pokémon|hoenn}}
{{Project CharacterDex notice}}
[[Category:Game characters]]
[[Category:Manga characters]]
[[Category:Pokémon Adventures characters]]
[[Category:Ruby and Sapphire characters]]
[[Category:Emerald characters]]
[[Category:Male characters]]

[[de:Heiko]]
[[es:Blasco]]
[[fr:Timmy]]
[[ja:ミツル]]

Wattson

2010-10-15T04:39:17Z

Pocketfanmk:

{{CharInfobox|
color={{electric color}} |
corecolor={{electric color light}} |
bordercolor={{electric color dark}} |
name=Wattson |
jname=テッセン |
tmname=Tessen |
slogan=yes |
sloganline=The cheerfully electrifying man! |
image=ArtWattson.png |
size=150px |
caption=Artwork from {{3v2|Ruby|Sapphire|Emerald}} |
gender=Male |
colors=yes|
eyes=Black|
hair=White|
hometown=[[Mauville City]] |
region=[[Hoenn]] |
relatives=Unknown |
trainer=yes |
trainerclass=[[Gym Leader]] |
numpkmncaught=Varies with canon |
game=yes |
generation={{gen|III}} |
games={{3v2|Ruby|Sapphire|Emerald}} |
leader=yes |
gym=Mauville Gym |
badge=Dynamo Badge |
specialist=yes |
type={{type2|Electric}}s |
brain=no |
anime=yes |
epnum=AG040 |
epname=Watt's with Wattson |
enva=[[Dan Green]] |
java=Ken'ichi Ogata |
}}

'''Wattson''' (Japanese: '''テッセン''' ''Tessen'') is the [[Gym Leader]] of [[Mauville City]]'s [[Gym]], known officially as the [[Mauville Gym]]. {{pkmn|Trainer}}s who defeat him receive the {{Badge|Dynamo}}. He is a jolly old man who specializes in {{type2|Electric}} {{OBP|Pokémon|species}}.

==In the games==
Wattson's title is "The cheerfully electrifying man!" The citizens of Mauville think of him as "eccentric," and one of his students affectionately referred to him as a "tough coot." He prefers to employ Electric-type Pokémon, and is a generally jovial man.

Wattson founded Mauville; he once had a desire to convert Mauville in an expansion project, but abandoned that plan. Instead, he installed switch-controlled dynamos in his Gym that create doors of electricity.

In addition to the Dynamo Badge, Wattson gives out {{TM|34|Shock Wave}}, in {{3v2|Ruby|Sapphire|Emerald}}.

If the player returns to Mauville after getting {{m|Surf}}, Wattson will ask him or her to go to [[New Mauville]] on an errand for him. If the player completes the task, Wattson will give {{TM|24|Thunderbolt}}, as a sign of his appreciation.

===Pokémon===
This listing is for Wattson's Pokémon in the video games in which he has appeared.

====Pokémon Ruby/Sapphire====
{{Party|color={{electric color}}|bordercolor={{electric color dark}}|headcolor={{electric color light}}
|sprite=SpriteWattson.png
|prize={{pdollar}}[[Pokémon Dollar|2300]]
|class=Leader
|name=Wattson
|game=RS
|location=Mauville Gym
|pokemon=3
|pokemon1={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Ruby and Sapphire|ndex=081|pokemon=Magnemite
|ability=Magnet Pull|level=22|type1=Electric|type2=Steel
|move1=ThunderShock|move1type=Electric
|move2=Thunder Wave|move2type=Electric
|move3=Supersonic|move3type=Normal
|move4=SonicBoom|move4type=Normal}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Ruby and Sapphire|ndex=100|pokemon=Voltorb
|ability=Static|level=20|type1=Electric
|move1=SonicBoom|move1type=Normal
|move2=Spark|move2type=Electric
|move3=Rollout|move3type=Rock
|move4=Selfdestruct|move4type=Normal}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=Ruby and Sapphire|ndex=082|pokemon=Magneton
|ability=Magnet Pull|level=23|type1=Electric|type2=Steel
|move1=Shock Wave|move1type=Electric
|move2=Thunder Wave|move2type=Electric
|move3=Supersonic|move3type=Normal
|move4=SonicBoom|move4type=Normal}}}}

====Pokémon Emerald====
{{Party|color={{electric color}}
|headcolor={{electric color light}}
|bordercolor={{electric color dark}}
|sprite=SpriteWattson.png
|prize={{pdollar}}[[Pokémon Dollar|2400]]
|class=Leader
|name=Wattson
|game=E
|location=Mauville Gym
|pokemon=4
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=100
|pokemon=Voltorb
|ability=Soundproof
|level=20
|type1=Electric
|move1=Rollout
|move1type=Rock
|move2=Spark
|move2type=Electric
|move3=Selfdestruct
|move3type=Normal
|move4=Shock Wave
|move4type=Electric}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=082
|pokemon=Magneton
|ability=Magnet Pull
|level=22
|type1=Electric
|type2=Steel
|move1=Supersonic
|move1type=Normal
|move2=Thunder Wave
|move2type=Electric
|move3=SonicBoom
|move3type=Normal
|move4=Shock Wave
|move4type=Electric}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=309
|pokemon=Electrike
|ability=Static
|gender=male
|level=20
|type1=Electric
|move1=Quick Attack
|move1type=Normal
|move2=Leer
|move2type=Normal
|move3=Howl
|move3type=Normal
|move4=Shock Wave
|move4type=Electric}}
|pokemon4={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=310
|pokemon=Manectric
|ability=Static
|held=Sitrus Berry
|gender=male
|level=24
|type1=Electric
|move1=Quick Attack
|move1type=Normal
|move2=Thunder Wave
|move2type=Electric
|move3=Howl
|move3type=Normal
|move4=Shock Wave
|move4type=Electric}}
}}

=====First [[Rematch]]=====
{{Party|color={{electric color}}
|headcolor={{electric color light}}
|bordercolor={{electric color dark}}
|sprite=SpriteWattson.png
|prize={{pdollar}}[[Pokémon Dollar|8000]]
|class=Leader
|name=Wattson
|game=E
|location=Mauville Gym
|pokemon=4
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=101
|pokemon=Electrode
|ability=Soundproof
|level=36
|type1=Electric
|move1=Rollout
|move1type=Rock
|move2=Thunder
|move2type=Electric
|move3=Explosion
|move3type=Normal
|move4=Rain Dance
|move4type=Water}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=179
|pokemon=Mareep
|ability=Static
|gender=male
|level=36
|type1=Electric
|move1=Protect
|move1type=Normal
|move2=Thunder Wave
|move2type=Electric
|move3=Light Screen
|move3type=Psychic
|move4=Thunder
|move4type=Electric}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=082
|pokemon=Magneton
|ability=Magnet Pull
|held=Sitrus Berry
|level=37
|type1=Electric
|type2=Steel
|move1=Supersonic
|move1type=Normal
|move2=Protect
|move2type=Normal
|move3=Rain Dance
|move3type=Water
|move4=Thunder
|move4type=Electric}}
|pokemon4={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=310
|pokemon=Manectric
|ability=Static
|held=Sitrus Berry
|gender=male
|level=40
|type1=Electric
|move1=Bite
|move1type=Dark
|move2=Thunder Wave
|move2type=Electric
|move3=Protect
|move3type=Normal
|move4=Thunder
|move4type=Electric}}
}}

=====Second Rematch=====
{{Party|color={{electric color}}
|headcolor={{electric color light}}
|bordercolor={{electric color dark}}
|sprite=SpriteWattson.png
|prize={{pdollar}}[[Pokémon Dollar|9000]]
|class=Leader
|name=Wattson
|game=E
|location=Mauville Gym
|pokemon=5
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=025
|pokemon=Pikachu
|ability=Static
|gender=male
|level=39
|type1=Electric
|move1=Shock Wave
|move1type=Electric
|move2=Thunder
|move2type=Electric
|move3=Slam
|move3type=Normal
|move4=Rain Dance
|move4type=Water}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=101
|pokemon=Electrode
|ability=Soundproof
|level=41
|type1=Electric
|move1=Rollout
|move1type=Rock
|move2=Thunder
|move2type=Electric
|move3=Explosion
|move3type=Normal
|move4=Rain Dance
|move4type=Water}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=180
|pokemon=Flaaffy
|ability=Static
|gender=male
|level=41
|type1=Electric
|move1=Protect
|move1type=Normal
|move2=Thunder Wave
|move2type=Electric
|move3=Light Screen
|move3type=Psychic
|move4=Thunder
|move4type=Electric}}
|pokemon4={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=082
|pokemon=Magneton
|ability=Magnet Pull
|held=Sitrus Berry
|level=40
|type1=Electric
|type2=Steel
|move1=Supersonic
|move1type=Normal
|move2=Protect
|move2type=Normal
|move3=Rain Dance
|move3type=Water
|move4=Thunder
|move4type=Electric}}
|pokemon5={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=310
|pokemon=Manectric
|ability=Static
|held=Sitrus Berry
|gender=male
|level=45
|type1=Electric
|move1=Bite
|move1type=Dark
|move2=Thunder Wave
|move2type=Electric
|move3=Protect
|move3type=Normal
|move4=Thunder
|move4type=Electric}}
}}

=====Third Rematch=====
{{Party|color={{electric color}}
|headcolor={{electric color light}}
|bordercolor={{electric color dark}}
|sprite=SpriteWattson.png
|prize={{pdollar}}[[Pokémon Dollar|10000]]
|class=Leader
|name=Wattson
|game=E
|location=Mauville Gym
|pokemon=5
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=026
|pokemon=Raichu
|ability=Static
|gender=male
|level=44
|type1=Electric
|move1=Protect
|move1type=Normal
|move2=Thunder
|move2type=Electric
|move3=Slam
|move3type=Normal
|move4=Rain Dance
|move4type=Water}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=101
|pokemon=Electrode
|ability=Soundproof
|level=46
|type1=Electric
|move1=Rollout
|move1type=Rock
|move2=Thunder
|move2type=Electric
|move3=Explosion
|move3type=Normal
|move4=Rain Dance
|move4type=Water}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=181
|pokemon=Ampharos
|ability=Static
|gender=male
|level=46
|type1=Electric
|move1=Protect
|move1type=Normal
|move2=Thunder Wave
|move2type=Electric
|move3=Light Screen
|move3type=Psychic
|move4=Thunder
|move4type=Electric}}
|pokemon4={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=082
|pokemon=Magneton
|ability=Magnet Pull
|held=Sitrus Berry
|level=48
|type1=Electric
|type2=Steel
|move1=Supersonic
|move1type=Normal
|move2=Protect
|move2type=Normal
|move3=Rain Dance
|move3type=Water
|move4=Thunder
|move4type=Electric}}
|pokemon5={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=310
|pokemon=Manectric
|ability=Static
|held=Sitrus Berry
|gender=male
|level=50
|type1=Electric
|move1=Bite
|move1type=Dark
|move2=Thunder Wave
|move2type=Electric
|move3=Protect
|move3type=Normal
|move4=Thunder
|move4type=Electric}}
}}

=====Fourth Rematch=====
{{Party|color={{electric color}}
|headcolor={{electric color light}}
|bordercolor={{electric color dark}}
|sprite=SpriteWattson.png
|prize={{pdollar}}[[Pokémon Dollar|11000]]
|class=Leader
|name=Wattson
|game=E
|location=Mauville Gym
|pokemon=6
|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=125
|pokemon=Electabuzz
|ability=Static
|gender=male
|level=50
|type1=Electric
|move4=Swift
|move4type=Normal
|move2=ThunderPunch
|move2type=Electric
|move1=Focus Punch
|move1type=Fighting
|move3=Light Screen
|move3type=Psychic}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=026
|pokemon=Raichu
|ability=Static
|gender=male
|level=51
|type1=Electric
|move1=Protect
|move1type=Normal
|move3=Thunder
|move3type=Electric
|move4=Slam
|move4type=Normal
|move2=Rain Dance
|move2type=Water}}
|pokemon4={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=101
|pokemon=Electrode
|ability=Soundproof
|level=53
|type1=Electric
|move3=Rollout
|move3type=Rock
|move2=Thunder
|move2type=Electric
|move4=Explosion
|move4type=Normal
|move1=Rain Dance
|move1type=Water}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=181
|pokemon=Ampharos
|ability=Static
|gender=male
|level=51
|type1=Electric
|move1=Protect
|move1type=Normal
|move2=Thunder Wave
|move2type=Electric
|move3=Light Screen
|move3type=Psychic
|move4=Thunder
|move4type=Electric}}
|pokemon5={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=082
|pokemon=Magneton
|ability=Magnet Pull
|level=53
|type1=Electric
|type2=Steel
|move2=Supersonic
|move2type=Normal
|move1=Protect
|move1type=Normal
|move3=Rain Dance
|move3type=Water
|move4=Thunder
|move4type=Electric}}
|pokemon6={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=310
|pokemon=Manectric
|ability=Static
|held=Sitrus Berry
|gender=male
|level=55
|type1=Electric
|move3=Bite
|move3type=Dark
|move2=Thunder Wave
|move2type=Electric
|move1=Protect
|move1type=Normal
|move4=Thunder
|move4type=Electric}}
}}

===Quotes===
===={{game2|Ruby|Sapphire|Emerald}}====
=====[[Mauville Gym]]=====
*Before battle
:''"I've given up on my plans to convert the city, I have. And so, I put my time into making door traps in my Gym. Oh? Now, what are you doing here? What's that? You say you've gotten past all my rigged doors? Wahahahah! Now, that is amusing! Then, I, Wattson, the Leader of Mauville Gym, shall electrify you!"''

*When defeated
:''"Wahahahah! Fine, I lost! You ended up giving me a thrill! Take this Badge!"''

*After being defeated
:''"With this Dynamo Badge, Pokémon can use {{m|Rock Smash}} out of battle. And, it will make your Pokémon a little bit faster, too. Hmm... You should take this, too!"''

:''"That TM34 there contains {{m|Shock Wave}}. It's a trustworthy move that never misses! You can count on it!"''

:''"{{tt|Wahahahah! Go forth and endeavor, youngster!|I swell with optimism, seeing a promising young Trainer like you!' in Emerald}}'"''

===={{game|Emerald}}====
=====Rematch=====
*Before battle
:''"Ah-ha! Here at last! I know what you want. You want to battle my Pokémon! Wahahahaha! I'll make sparks fly from you! Don't say I didn't warn you!"''

*When defeated
:''"Oof... Our batteries ran dry..."''

*After being defeated
:''"We'll have to recharge our batteries again. When we're fully charged up, we'll gladly accept your challenge. So, come back again sometime, won't you?"''

===={{DL|PokéNav|Trainer's Eyes}}/{{DL|PokéNav|Match Call}}====
'''Leader Wattson{{sup|RS}} / Swell Shock Wattson{{sup|E}}
:'''Strategy'''
:I choose to electrify.
:'''Trainer's Pokémon'''
:Get shocked by electricity!
:'''Self-Introduction'''
:{{tt|Wahahahaha! The secret to health is laughter!|'One must never throw a match. Even I must not.' in Emerald}}

==In the anime==
[[Image:Wattson Laughing.png|thumb|left|200px|Wattson in the anime]]
Wattson first appeared in ''[[AG040|Watt's with Wattson?]]''. He filled his [[Gym]] in [[Mauville City]] with many traps, pit-falls, roller coasters, and other tricks and pranks, much like [[Lt. Surge]] in [[Vermilion City]]. Wattson believed his gadgetry was not only hilarious, but kept trainers on their toes.

One of Wattson's tricks was a robotic {{p|Raikou}} that ended up super-charging the electricity in {{AP|Pikachu}}. As a result, {{Ash}}'s Pikachu was able to completely wipe out Wattson's team on its own, using a series of super-powerful {{m|Thunderbolt}}s.

Losing so easily really depressed the usually cheerful Gym Leader. Wattson left everyone a note saying that he went away to think. Uncharacteristically glum, he wandered off to the local power plant and met a friendly {{p|Electrike}}.

Afterwards [[Team Rocket]] stole all the Electric-type Pokémon from the power plant, so Wattson, Ash, {{an|Brock}}, [[Max]], and {{an|May}} pursued them.

Wattson used the Raikou robot to stop them in their tracks, while Pikachu and Electrike used {{m|Iron Tail}} and {{m|Bite}} to free the wild Pokémon. Ash tried to return the Dynamo Badge, but Wattson told him to keep it. Electrike decided to stay with Wattson.

Wattson again appeared in ''[[AG059|Manectric Charge]]''. He saved most of the group's Pokémon from another Team Rocket kidnapping attempt. The battle caused Electrike to [[evolution|evolve]] into {{TP|Wattson|Manectric}}. They were on their way back to [[Petalburg City]], but Ash and his friends took time out for a battle.

[[Ash's Torkoal]] fought against Wattson's Manectric in a fierce battle, which Manectric won.

===Pokémon===
This listing is of Wattson's Pokémon in the {{pkmn|anime}}.
{{TrainerPoké
|main=yes
|trainer=Wattson
|pkmn=Manectric
|type1=Electric
|img=Wattson Manectric.png
|epnum=AG040
|epname=Watt's with Wattson?
|vajp=Katsuyuki Konishi
|desc=Manectric first appeared as an {{p|Electrike}} after Wattson's defeat by Ash, he came to the Power Plant in Mauville City. After cheering him up, he send Team Rocket blasting off together with Ash's Pikachu. After this, it stayed with Wattson. The gang return to Mauville City. Electrike evolved into {{p|Manectric}} after deating Team Rocket. Ash decided to challenge Wattson and Manectric to a training match with his Torkoal. After a fierce battle, Manectric emerged victorious.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Wattson
|pkmn=Magnemite
|type1=Electric
|type2=Steel
|img=Wattson Magnemite.png
|epnum=AG040
|epname=Watt's with Wattson?
|desc=Magnemite was the first Pokémon used by Wattson in his Gym Battle against Ash. Due to {{AP|Pikachu}} being powered-up by the mecha-Raikou it was defeated with only a single {{m|Thunderbolt}}.

Magnemite's known moves are {{m|Swift}} and {{m|Thunder Wave}}{{tt|*|Magnemite hasn't been seen using this move, but it was mentioned by Wattson at one point that Magnemite is able to use it.}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Wattson
|pkmn=Voltorb
|type1=Electric
|img=Wattson Voltorb.png
|epnum=AG040
|epname=Watt's with Wattson?
|desc={{p|Voltorb}} was the second Pokémon used by Wattson against Ash. Like Magnemite, it was defeated with a single Thunderbolt.

Voltorb's only known move is {{m|Screech}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Wattson
|pkmn=Magneton
|type1=Electric
|type2=Steel
|img=Wattson Magneton.png
|epnum=AG040
|epname=Watt's with Wattson?
|desc={{p|Magneton}} was the final Pokémon used Wattson during the Gym Battle. By this point in the match, both Wattson and Magneton were determined to defeat Ash, but Magneton couldn't stand up to Pikachu's super-charged {{m|Thunder}} and was also knocked out in a single hit.

Magneton's only known move is {{m|Zap Cannon}}.}}

===Voice actors===
{{vatable|color={{electric color}}|bordercolor={{electric color light}}
|ja=緒方賢一 ''Ken'ichi Ogata''
|en=[[Dan Green]]
|es_eu=Fernando Hernández
|es_la=Armando Réndiz [[AG040]] Jorge Santos [[AG059]]
|pl=Andrzej Chudy
|fr_eu=Jean-Daniel Nicodème}}

==In the Pokémon Adventures manga==
[[File:Wattson and Flannery.png|thumb|right|250px|Wattson and his Electrike (right) with Flannery and her Magcargo (left)]]
Wattson is the cheerful [[Gym Leader]] of {{ci|Mauville}}, who enjoys cracking jokes that include puns on people's names. His motto was "Be cheerful, no matter when or where". He doesn't care when or where the battles take place, every challenge to him qualifies as a gym battle. He doesn't even care about the result, and would often give out badges as long as his challengers do their best. Because of this attitude, {{adv|Sapphire}} was very annoyed with him.

When Sapphire first met the elderly gym leader, he and the Trick Master were trying to locate a rampaging {{p|Donphan}} with tricks developed by the latter. But they had mistaken Sapphire as the Donphan and trapped her and her Pokémon with the tricks. Sapphire inquired whether the turning door on the ground was also part of their traps. It was actually the secret entrance to [[New Mauville]], the secret underground city Wattson and Trick Master had been trying to find for some time.

Mauville had been having the problem of land shortage and overcrowding because of the growing number of children in the city. As both Wattson and Trick Master cherish children a lot, they hoped they could find this secret city for them. Later, Sapphire saved Wattson from an overcharged generator and got the New Mauville, which is a large amusement park, into operation. Thankful for her help, Wattson gave her the {{Badge|Dynamo}}.

After being informed about [[Team Magma]] and [[Team Aqua]]'s schemes, he sided with Team Magma because of his city's problem of land shortage. When the two ancient Pokémon were awakened, he was assigned to fight against {{p|Kyogre}}, and later [[Aqua Admin Amber|Amber]], one of the [[Subleaders of the Sea Scheme|Aqua Admins]]. He was knocked into the sea after being attacked from behind by a {{p|Shedinja}}, but Sapphire's {{p|Wailord}} saved his life. He was left on the [[Pokémon Association]]'s aircraft as he was too injured to continue fighting.

===Pokémon===
This listing is for Wattson's Pokémon in the Pokémon Adventures manga.
{|border="1" style="border: 1px solid #000; border-collapse: collapse;" width=300px cellspacing="0"
|-
| align=center colspan=2 | [[Image:309.png]] → [[Image:310.png]] {{p|Electrike}} → {{p|Manectric}}
| align=center | [[Image:081.png]] {{p|Magnemite}} (×2)
|-
| align=center | [[Image:082.png]] {{p|Magneton}}
| align=center | [[Image:100.png]] {{p|Voltorb}}
| align=center | [[Image:101.png]] {{p|Electrode}}
|}

==Trivia==
* Like [[Lt. Surge]] is in [[Kanto]], Wattson is the third [[Gym Leader]] encountered on a journey through [[Hoenn]], and is similarly enamored with trap doors and {{type2|Electric}} Pokémon.
* Wattson's {{p|Magneton}} in the games is quite underleveled, as Magneton must evolve from Magnemite at Lv. 30, and although Magneton can be caught at a level less than 30 in New Mauville, it cannot be caught as low as Level 22 or 23.
*In Ruby and Sapphire he is the only Gym Leader whose entire team does not originate from Hoenn. However, in Emerald this changed when {{p|Electrike}} and {{p|Manectric}} were added to his initial roster.
** Wattson is the only Gym Leader in the Hoenn region whose highest leveled Pokémon, his Magneton, wasn't a Pokémon introduced in Generation III. This only applies to his team in Ruby and Sapphire, as he has a Manectric in Emerald.
*Wattson is the only [[Electric (type)|Electric-type]] specialist that does not currently have blonde hair.

===Names===
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #88a; border-collapse: collapse;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{electric color}};"
! Language
! Name
! Origin
|-
|Japanese
|テッセン (''Tessen'')
|鉄線 ''tessen'' means iron/steel wire. It is also an alternative name given to the flower, clematis. Interestingly, this is also the name origin for [[Lt. Surge]], another [[Gym Leader]] who uses {{type2|Electric}} {{OBP|Pokémon|species}}.
|-
|English
|Wattson
|From "watt", a unit of power
|-
|French
|Voltere
|Pun on "{{wp|Voltaire}}" and "volt."
|-
|German
|Walter
|Possible relation to "watt" or "volt."
|-
|Italian
|Walter
|Possible relation to "watt" or "volt."
|-
|Spanish
|Erico
|Possible derivation of "eléctrico" (electric).
|-
|Korean
|암페어 (''Ampeeo'')
|A Hangul spelling of the word "ampere."
|-
|Chinese
|鐵旋/铁旋 (''Tiěxuán'')
|From 鉄旋, a possible spelling of ''Tessen''. Literally "Iron whirl".
|}

==References==
* Pokémon.com [http://www.pokemon.com/#tvmovies_652 Watt's With Wattson?].
* Pokémon.com [http://www.pokemon.com/#tvmovies_719 Manectric Charge].

==External links==
*[http://pokeani.com/chara/gym-tessen.html Tessen's Profile] on [[Pokeani]] (Japanese)

{{Gym Leaders of Hoenn}} 
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[[Category:Male characters]]

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[[fr:Voltère]]
[[ja:テッセン]]
[[pl:Wattson]]
[[pt:Wattson]]

Rival

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:''For the [[Elite Four]] {{pkmn|Champion}} in {{eng|Pokémon Stadium}}, see [[Blue (game)]]''.
:''For the Japanese opening theme, see [[The Rivals]].''
----
[[File:Rival artwork.png|thumb|right|The first battle with the player's rival]]
A '''Rival''' (Japanese: '''ライバル''' ''Rival'') is a type of [[Pokémon Trainer]] that first debuted in the [[Generation I]] games, and is a recurring opponent to the {{player}} throughout the game. It specifically refers to {{ga|Blue}} and {{ga|Silver}}. However, there are Pokémon Trainers who may not be formally described as rivals, but have characteristics reminiscent of those of Blue and Silver. These Trainers are the following: {{ga|Brendan}} or {{ga|May}}, depending on the player's [[gender]], as well as [[Wally]], in {{game2|Ruby|Sapphire|Emerald}}, {{ga|Barry}} in {{game2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}, and {{ga|Bel}} and [[Cheren]] in {{game|Black and White|s}}. {{ga|Lucas}}, {{ga|Dawn}}, {{ga|Ethan}}, and {{ga|Lyra}} (whichever the player is not) are sometimes said to be rivals; however, they never actually battle ''against'' the player.

Typically, rivals will be met by the player early in the game, usually around the time the player receives their [[starter Pokémon]]. In most games, the rival will also obtain a starter Pokémon, and will usually participate in the player's first [[Pokémon battle]] against a trainer. From then on, rivals will appear frequently throughout the player's journey, always being one step ahead of the player as the player moves through the region, meeting and battling the player at various points in the game with a progressively stronger and diversified [[party]]. Usually they must be defeated in order to continue the game; the most important of these battles happening either right before or during the player's challenge to the [[Elite Four]]. After the defeat of the [[Elite Four]] and the [[Pokémon Champion]], the rival can usually be battled at the player's leisure, but only at certain times with increasingly powerful Pokémon.

More often than not, they will have the starter Pokémon of their home region that weakens the one the player chose at the beginning of the game. The exceptions are Wally, who instead uses {{p|Ralts}} as his starter, either Lucas or Dawn, of whom one uses the starter Pokémon that is actually weak to the player's choice to complement how {{ga|Barry}} picks the starter the player is weak to, either Ethan or Lyra, who do not have any shown Pokémon other than a {{p|Marill}}; however, {{an|Lyra|Lyra's anime counterpart}} has a {{p|Chikorita}}, and it is never directly stated that they do not have a Johto starter Pokémon and {{ga|Bel}}, who in Pokémon Black and White, chooses the starter weak to the player's. Since they are not rivals in the traditional sense, they are referred to as pseudo-rivals. Most of them use a variety of Pokémon for the remainder of their teams. The [[Pokémon Yellow Version]] of Blue starts with an {{p|Eevee}}, and should the player's {{ga|Red's Pikachu|Pikachu}} lose the first battle in the lab, he will evolve it into a {{p|Vaporeon}}, thus giving the player the advantage.

[[image:RivalCharactersGrouped.png|thumb|320px|The Rivals of the main series games (including redesigns)]]

==Images==
===Main Rivals===
{| align="center" style="background: #88a; -moz-border-radius: 10px; border: 5px solid #88a"
|-
! style="background:#bebed1; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 5px;" | {{color2|000|Region}}
! colspan="6" style="background:#{{kanto color light}}" | {{color2|{{kanto color dark}}|Kanto}}
! colspan="5" style="background:#{{johto color light}}" | {{color2|{{johto color dark}}|Johto}}
! colspan="3" style="background:#{{hoenn color light}}" | {{color2|{{hoenn color dark}}|Hoenn}}
! colspan="3" style="background:#{{sinnoh color light}}" | {{color2|{{sinnoh color dark}}|Sinnoh}}
! colspan="2" style="background:#{{isshu color light}}; -moz-border-radius-topright: 5px;" | {{color2|{{isshu color dark}}|Isshu}}
|-
! rowspan="2" style="background:#bebed1" | {{color2|000|Pokémon game|Game}}
! rowspan="2" style="background:#{{red color}}" | {{color2|{{red color dark}}|Pokémon Red and Blue Versions|R}}
! rowspan="2" style="background:#{{green color}}" | {{color2|{{green color dark}}|Pokémon Red and Green Versions|G}}
! rowspan="2" style="background:#{{blue color}}" | {{color2|{{blue color dark}}|Pokémon Blue Version (Japanese)|B}}
! rowspan="2" style="background:#{{yellow color}}" | {{color2|{{yellow color dark}}|Pokémon Yellow Version|Y}}
! rowspan="2" style="background:#{{firered color}}" | {{color2|{{firered color dark}}|Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen Versions|FR}}
! rowspan="2" style="background:#{{leafgreen color}}" | {{color2|{{leafgreen color dark}}|Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen Versions|LG}}
! rowspan="2" style="background:#{{gold color}}" | {{color2|{{gold color dark}}|Pokémon Gold and Silver Versions|G}}
! rowspan="2" style="background:#{{silver color}}" | {{color2|{{silver color dark}}|Pokémon Gold and Silver Versions|S}}
! rowspan="2" style="background:#{{crystal color}}" | {{color2|{{crystal color dark}}|Pokémon Crystal Version|C}}
! rowspan="2" style="background:#{{heartgold color}}" | {{color2|{{heartgold color dark}}|Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions|HG}}
! rowspan="2" style="background:#{{soulsilver color}}" | {{color2|{{soulsilver color dark}}|Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions|SS}}
! rowspan="2" style="background:#{{ruby color}}" | {{color2|{{ruby color dark}}|Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Versions|R}}
! rowspan="2" style="background:#{{sapphire color light}}" | {{color2|{{sapphire color dark}}|Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Versions|S}}
! rowspan="2" style="background:#{{emerald color}}" | {{color2|{{emerald color dark}}|Pokémon Emerald Version|E}}
! rowspan="2" style="background:#{{diamond color}}" | {{color2|{{diamond color dark}}|Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|D}}
! rowspan="2" style="background:#{{pearl color}}" | {{color2|{{pearl color dark}}|Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|P}}
! rowspan="2" style="background:#{{platinum color}}" | {{color2|{{platinum color dark}}|Pokémon Platinum Version|Pt}}
! style="background:#{{black color}}" colspan="2" | {{color2|{{black color dark}}|Pokémon Black and White Versions|B}}
|-
! style="background:#{{white color}}" colspan="2" | {{color2|{{white color dark}}|Pokémon Black and White Versions|W}}
|- align="center"
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Name}}
| colspan="6" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Blue (game)|Blue}}
| colspan="5" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Silver (game)|Silver}}
| colspan="3" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Wally|Wally}}
| colspan="3" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Barry (game)|Barry}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Cheren|Cheren}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Bel|Bel}}
|-
! rowspan="3" style="background:#bebed1; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft: 5px;" | {{color|000|Sprite(s)}}
| align="center" style="background:#fff" colspan="3" | [[Image:RBBlue.png]]
| align="center" style="background:#fff" | [[Image:Y_Blue.png]]
| align="center" style="background:#fff" colspan="2" | [[Image:Blue1.png]]
| rowspan="3" align="center" style="background:#fff" colspan="2" | [[Image:Silver_Sprite_GS.gif]]
| rowspan="3" align="center" style="background:#fff" colspan="1" | [[Image:Silver_Sprite_C.gif]]
| rowspan="3" align="center" style="background:#fff" colspan="2" | [[Image:SilverHGSS.gif]]
| rowspan="3" align="center" style="background:#fff" colspan="3" | [[Image:Wally_game.PNG]]
| rowspan="3" align="center" style="background:#fff" colspan="2" | [[Image:Jun.png]]
| rowspan="3" align="center" style="background:#fff" colspan="1" | [[Image:RivalPlatinum.gif]]
| rowspan="3" align="center" style="background:#fff" | [[File:BW Cheren Sprite.png]]
| rowspan="3" align="center" style="background:#fff" -moz-border-radius-bottomright: 5px;" | [[File:BW Bel Sprite.png]]
|-
| align="center" style="background:#fff" colspan="3" | [[Image:RB_Rival2.png]]
| align="center" style="background:#fff" | [[Image:Y_Blue2.png]]
| align="center" style="background:#fff" colspan="2" | [[Image:Blue2.png]]
|-
| align="center" style="background:#fff" colspan="3" | [[Image:RBChamp.PNG]]
| align="center" style="background:#fff" | [[Image:YellowChampionBlue.png]]
| align="center" style="background:#fff" colspan="2" | [[Image:FL_Blue.png]]
|}
{{-}}

===Pseudo Rivals===
{| align="center" style="background: #88a; -moz-border-radius: 10px; border: 5px solid #88a"
|-
! colspan="2" style="background:#bebed1; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 5px;" | {{color2|000|Region}}
! colspan="2" style="background:#{{johto color light}}" | {{color2|{{johto color dark}}|Johto}}
! colspan="3" style="background:#{{hoenn color light}}" | {{color2|{{hoenn color dark}}|Hoenn}}
! colspan="3" style="background:#{{sinnoh color light}}; -moz-border-radius-topright: 5px;" | {{color2|{{sinnoh color dark}}|Sinnoh}}
|-
! colspan="2" style="background:#bebed1" | {{color2|000|Pokémon game|Game}}
! style="background:#{{heartgold color}}" | {{color2|{{heartgold color dark}}|Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions|HG}}
! style="background:#{{soulsilver color}}" | {{color2|{{soulsilver color dark}}|Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions|SS}}
! style="background:#{{ruby color}}" | {{color2|{{ruby color dark}}|Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Versions|R}}
! style="background:#{{sapphire color light}}" | {{color2|{{sapphire color dark}}|Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Versions|S}}
! style="background:#{{emerald color}}" | {{color2|{{emerald color dark}}|Pokémon Emerald Version|E}}
! style="background:#{{diamond color}}" | {{color2|{{diamond color dark}}|Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|D}}
! style="background:#{{pearl color}}" | {{color2|{{pearl color dark}}|Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|P}}
! style="background:#{{platinum color}}" | {{color2|{{platinum color dark}}|Pokémon Platinum Version|Pt}}
|- align="center"
! rowspan="2" style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Male}}
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Name}}
| colspan="2" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Ethan (game)|Ethan}}
| colspan="3" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Brendan (game)|Brendan}}
| colspan="3" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Lucas (game)|Lucas}}
|- style="background:#fff"
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Sprite}}
| align="center" colspan="2" | [[Image:HGSS Ethan.png]]
| align="center" colspan="2" | [[Image:Brendan.png]]
| align="center" | [[Image:BrendanE.png]]
| align="center" colspan="2" | [[Image:Koki.png]]
| align="center" | [[Image:Lucasplatinum.png]]
|- align="center"
! rowspan="2" style="background:#bebed1; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft: 5px;" | {{color|000|Female}}
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Name}}
| colspan="2" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Lyra (game)|Lyra}}
| colspan="3" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|May (game)|May}}
| colspan="3" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Dawn (game)|Dawn}}
|-
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Sprite}}
| style="background:#fff" align="center" colspan="2" | [[Image:HGSS Lyra.png]]
| style="background:#fff" align="center" colspan="2" | [[Image:May.png]]
| style="background:#fff" align="center" | [[Image:MayE.png]]
| style="background:#fff" align="center" colspan="2" | [[Image:Hikari.png]]
| align="center" style="background:#fff; -moz-border-radius-bottomright: 5px;" | [[Image:Dawnplatinum.png]]
|}
{{-}}

==In the anime==
[[File:Ash and Paul.png|thumb|250px|Ash and his rival Paul]]
Various rivals for the {{Ashfr|main characters}} have also appeared in the {{pkmn|anime}}. Rivals in this sense refers to major recurring characters, as all of the main characters have had a "rival" who only appears in a single or few episodes that they eventually make up with. Examples include [[Morrison]] or {{jo|Harrison}}, while the major rivals are listed below.

*{{Ash}} has had [[Gary Oak]], [[Paul]], and {{an|Barry}} as his rivals. Both [[Nando]] and [[Conway]] may qualify, as seen in [[Suzuran Conference]], where they both battled and lost to Ash. Many other characters also collect badges and may be counted as rivals in the future.
*{{an|May}} has had both [[Drew]] and [[Harley]]. [[Solidad]] may also qualify, as the two battled in [[Kanto Grand Festival]] and Solidad was seen with Drew and Harley watching May in the [[Wallace Cup]] on [[television]].
*{{an|Dawn}} has [[Zoey]], {{si|Kenny}}, [[Ursula]], and [[Jessie]]. [[Nando]] may also qualify, though he and Dawn have yet to battle officially.
*[[Johanna]] had a childhood rivalry with [[Lila]].
*{{an|Brock}} had a friendly (and shortlived) rivalry with [[Suzy]].
*[[Jessie]] and [[James]] have a rivalry with [[Cassidy]] and [[Butch]], respectively.

==In the manga==
In [[Pokémon Adventures]], {{adv|Red}}'s first rivalry blossomed when, just as their game counterparts did, he and {{adv|Blue}} were each given the first two [[Pokédex]], as well as starter Pokémon to compliment their already growing parties (somewhat unlike in the games). Red received [[Saur|Bulbasaur]], while Blue acquired the starter that weakens his, and both times his [[Blue's Charizard|Charmander]] evolved before Red's. As would become a tradition in the manga, {{adv|Green}}, hearing of these two fellow [[Pallet Town]] trainers' big send offs on journeys, stole a [[Blasty|Squirtle]] (weakened by Red's) and proved to be a somewhat irritating obstacle for Red at times, stealing two of his badges and shrewdly taking his [[Moon Stone]] for later use before using the boy as a pawn to gather the seven known badges at the time to create [[Zapmolcuno]] (now knowing at the time that it would create a three-headed bird monster, a kind which she fears above all else). She also competed in the [[Pokémon League]] after Red's excursions in the [[Viridian Gym]] against [[Giovanni]], as well as his capture of [[Mewtwo (Adventures)|Mewtwo]]. She finally faced the then-disguised [[Professor Oak|Professor]] in the semi-finals, but after her phobia of bird Pokémon was exploited, she lost, and after Oak's forfeit, Red defeated his rival in the final match.

{{adv|Yellow}}, who took over as the protagonist two years later, had no real rival, but as both she and [[Lance]] of the [[Elite Four]] had the psychic healing powers of [[Viridian Forest]], he would most closely match this description.

One year later, the tradition of the rival character acquiring a starter that weakens the protagonist's would again be revisited when {{adv|Silver}} steals his [[Silver's Feraligatr|Totodile]] while {{adv|Gold}} took a [[Exbo|Cyndaquil]]. Once again, the rival would evolve his starter before the boy when his Totodile became a {{p|Croconaw}} before Gold's evolved to {{p|Quilava}}, but after they were horribly defeated and narrowly saved by {{p|Entei}}, they would fall into a coma lasting for several weeks, during which a third protagonist, {{adv|Crystal}}, is given a {{p|Chikorita}}, the last remaining starter (along with the final Pokédex), and it too evolved to a {{p|Bayleef}}. The three then were reunited in the [[Whirl Islands]], and evolved to the final stages simultaneously.

Years after the [[Masked Man]]'s defeat, {{adv|Ruby}} and {{adv|Sapphire}} would be given opposite starters, but unlike before (possibly attributed to the fact that Sapphire is female), Ruby would now acquire a [[Zuzu|Mudkip]] and Sapphire would be given the disadvantaged [[Toro|Torchic]]. Both evolved to their final stage similarly, though again the rival of the main playable character, Ruby, would evolve hers first both times.

Ironically, {{p|Treecko|the Grass-type starter}} would again meet the fate of being partnered after its chums when it at last becomes {{p|Grovyle}} with [[Wally]], and is revealed to have been smuggled into the [[Battle Frontier (Generation III)#Battle Factory|Battle Factory]] after evolving to its [[Emerald's Sceptile|final stage]] in the wild. As originally intended, it ended up with {{adv|Emerald}}.

The protagonists for the {{chap|Diamond & Pearl}} received the same type starters as the RGB seniors years before, when {{adv|Diamond}} (based on [[Lucas]]) ended up with a [[Wig|Turtwig]], {{adv|Pearl}} (based on the rival character) with a [[Chimhiko|Chimchar]], and {{adv|Platinum}} (based on {{ga|Dawn}}) was given a [[Platinum's Empoleon|Piplup]]. However, unlike the first protagonists, their starters evolved almost exactly at the same time, with Diamond and Pearl's starters evolving simultaneously both times.

==Trivia==
* Ash has captured a Pokémon belonging to each of his rivals. Both Gary and Ash captured {{p|Krabby}}, and Paul and Barry use a {{p|Torterra}}, {{p|Gliscor}}, {{p|Staraptor}}, and {{p|Heracross}}, respectively, matching up with Ash's own Pokémon.
* [[Harley]] is the oldest rival in the anime, being at the very least older than [[Brock]].
* Three of Ash's rivals each seem to be a parallel to each of Ash's female companions. Misty and Gary both have a bickering relationship with Ash; May and {{ho|Tyson}} are both known for their optimism and fondness for eating treats; Dawn and Barry both have mannerisms on capturing Pokémon of their likeness.
* [[Wally]] is the only rival to not have a sprite change in any of the games he is featured in. {{ga|Silver}} does not receive a sprite change in {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}, but does in {{3v2|Gold|Silver|Crystal}}.
* {{ga|May}} and [[Bel]] are the only female rivals in the games, though May ceases to be the rival by the end of the story, preferring to work as an assistant to her father instead ({{ga|Brendan}} does the same if the player is May).
* Although rivals typically choose their starter after the player has made his or her choice, all rivals in [[Pokémon Adventures]] choose and acquire their starter before the male player does, as {{adv|Blue}} picked Charmander before {{adv|Red}} receives [[Saur]], {{adv|Silver}} stole {{TP|Silver|Totodile}} before [[Exbo]] joined {{adv|Gold}}, and {{adv|Sapphire}} was given [[Toro]] before {{adv|Ruby}} picked [[Zuzu]]. However, in the latter's case, May actually does pick her starter before Brendan gets to start his journey.

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| {{Project CharacterDex notice|tc}}
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[[Category:Trainer classes]]

[[de:Rivale]]
[[fr:Rival]]
[[ja:ライバル]]

Rival

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:''For the [[Elite Four]] {{pkmn|Champion}} in {{eng|Pokémon Stadium}}, see [[Blue (game)]]''.
:''For the Japanese opening theme, see [[The Rivals]].''
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[[File:Rival artwork.png|thumb|right|The first battle with the player's rival]]
A '''Rival''' (Japanese: '''ライバル''' ''Rival'') is a type of [[Pokémon Trainer]] that first debuted in the [[Generation I]] games, and is a recurring opponent to the {{player}} throughout the game. It specifically refers to {{ga|Blue}} and {{ga|Silver}}. However, there are [[Pokémon]] Trainers who may not be formally described as rivals, but have characteristics reminiscent of those of Blue and Silver. These Trainers are the following: {{ga|Brendan}} or {{ga|May}}, depending on the player's [[gender]], as well as [[Wally]], in {{game2|Ruby|Sapphire|Emerald}}, {{ga|Barry}} in {{game2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}, and {{ga|Bel}} and [[Cheren]] in {{game|Black and White|s}}. {{ga|Lucas}}, {{ga|Dawn}}, {{ga|Ethan}}, and {{ga|Lyra}} (whichever the player is not) are sometimes said to be rivals; however, they never actually battle ''against'' the player.

Typically, rivals will be met by the player early in the game, usually around the time the player receives their [[starter Pokémon]]. In most games, the rival will also obtain a starter Pokémon, and will usually participate in the player's first [[Pokémon battle]] against a trainer. From then on, rivals will appear frequently throughout the player's journey, always being one step ahead of the player as the player moves through the region, meeting and battling the player at various points in the game with a progressively stronger and diversified [[party]]. Usually they must be defeated in order to continue the game; the most important of these battles happening either right before or during the player's challenge to the [[Elite Four]]. After the defeat of the [[Elite Four]] and the [[Pokémon Champion]], the rival can usually be battled at the player's leisure, but only at certain times with increasingly powerful Pokémon.

More often than not, they will have the starter Pokémon of their home region that weakens the one the player chose at the beginning of the game. The exceptions are Wally, who instead uses {{p|Ralts}} as his starter, either Lucas or Dawn, of whom one uses the starter Pokémon that is actually weak to the player's choice to complement how {{ga|Barry}} picks the starter the player is weak to, either Ethan or Lyra, who do not have any shown Pokémon other than a {{p|Marill}}; however, {{an|Lyra|Lyra's anime counterpart}} has a {{p|Chikorita}}, and it is never directly stated that they do not have a Johto starter Pokémon and {{ga|Bel}}, who in Pokémon Black and White, chooses the starter weak to the player's. Since they are not rivals in the traditional sense, they are referred to as pseudo-rivals. Most of them use a variety of Pokémon for the remainder of their teams. The [[Pokémon Yellow Version]] of Blue starts with an {{p|Eevee}}, and should the player's {{ga|Red's Pikachu|Pikachu}} lose the first battle in the lab, he will evolve it into a {{p|Vaporeon}}, thus giving the player the advantage.

[[image:RivalCharactersGrouped.png|thumb|320px|The Rivals of the main series games (including redesigns)]]

==Images==
===Main Rivals===
{| align="center" style="background: #88a; -moz-border-radius: 10px; border: 5px solid #88a"
|-
! style="background:#bebed1; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 5px;" | {{color2|000|Region}}
! colspan="6" style="background:#{{kanto color light}}" | {{color2|{{kanto color dark}}|Kanto}}
! colspan="5" style="background:#{{johto color light}}" | {{color2|{{johto color dark}}|Johto}}
! colspan="3" style="background:#{{hoenn color light}}" | {{color2|{{hoenn color dark}}|Hoenn}}
! colspan="3" style="background:#{{sinnoh color light}}" | {{color2|{{sinnoh color dark}}|Sinnoh}}
! colspan="2" style="background:#{{isshu color light}}; -moz-border-radius-topright: 5px;" | {{color2|{{isshu color dark}}|Isshu}}
|-
! rowspan="2" style="background:#bebed1" | {{color2|000|Pokémon game|Game}}
! rowspan="2" style="background:#{{red color}}" | {{color2|{{red color dark}}|Pokémon Red and Blue Versions|R}}
! rowspan="2" style="background:#{{green color}}" | {{color2|{{green color dark}}|Pokémon Red and Green Versions|G}}
! rowspan="2" style="background:#{{blue color}}" | {{color2|{{blue color dark}}|Pokémon Blue Version (Japanese)|B}}
! rowspan="2" style="background:#{{yellow color}}" | {{color2|{{yellow color dark}}|Pokémon Yellow Version|Y}}
! rowspan="2" style="background:#{{firered color}}" | {{color2|{{firered color dark}}|Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen Versions|FR}}
! rowspan="2" style="background:#{{leafgreen color}}" | {{color2|{{leafgreen color dark}}|Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen Versions|LG}}
! rowspan="2" style="background:#{{gold color}}" | {{color2|{{gold color dark}}|Pokémon Gold and Silver Versions|G}}
! rowspan="2" style="background:#{{silver color}}" | {{color2|{{silver color dark}}|Pokémon Gold and Silver Versions|S}}
! rowspan="2" style="background:#{{crystal color}}" | {{color2|{{crystal color dark}}|Pokémon Crystal Version|C}}
! rowspan="2" style="background:#{{heartgold color}}" | {{color2|{{heartgold color dark}}|Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions|HG}}
! rowspan="2" style="background:#{{soulsilver color}}" | {{color2|{{soulsilver color dark}}|Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions|SS}}
! rowspan="2" style="background:#{{ruby color}}" | {{color2|{{ruby color dark}}|Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Versions|R}}
! rowspan="2" style="background:#{{sapphire color light}}" | {{color2|{{sapphire color dark}}|Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Versions|S}}
! rowspan="2" style="background:#{{emerald color}}" | {{color2|{{emerald color dark}}|Pokémon Emerald Version|E}}
! rowspan="2" style="background:#{{diamond color}}" | {{color2|{{diamond color dark}}|Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|D}}
! rowspan="2" style="background:#{{pearl color}}" | {{color2|{{pearl color dark}}|Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|P}}
! rowspan="2" style="background:#{{platinum color}}" | {{color2|{{platinum color dark}}|Pokémon Platinum Version|Pt}}
! style="background:#{{black color}}" colspan="2" | {{color2|{{black color dark}}|Pokémon Black and White Versions|B}}
|-
! style="background:#{{white color}}" colspan="2" | {{color2|{{white color dark}}|Pokémon Black and White Versions|W}}
|- align="center"
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Name}}
| colspan="6" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Blue (game)|Blue}}
| colspan="5" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Silver (game)|Silver}}
| colspan="3" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Wally|Wally}}
| colspan="3" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Barry (game)|Barry}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Cheren|Cheren}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Bel|Bel}}
|-
! rowspan="3" style="background:#bebed1; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft: 5px;" | {{color|000|Sprite(s)}}
| align="center" style="background:#fff" colspan="3" | [[Image:RBBlue.png]]
| align="center" style="background:#fff" | [[Image:Y_Blue.png]]
| align="center" style="background:#fff" colspan="2" | [[Image:Blue1.png]]
| align="center" style="background:#fff" colspan="3" | [[Image:Silver_Sprite_GS.gif]]
| rowspan="3" align="center" style="background:#fff" colspan="2"| [[Image:SilverHGSS.gif]]
| rowspan="3" align="center" style="background:#fff" colspan="3" | [[Image:Wally_game.PNG]]
| rowspan="3" align="center" style="background:#fff" colspan="2" | [[Image:Jun.png]]
| rowspan="3" align="center" style="background:#fff" colspan="1" | [[Image:RivalPlatinum.gif]]
| rowspan="3" align="center" style="background:#fff" | [[File:BW Cheren Sprite.png]]
| rowspan="3" align="center" style="background:#fff" -moz-border-radius-bottomright: 5px;" | [[File:BW Bel Sprite.png]]
|-
| align="center" style="background:#fff" colspan="3" | [[Image:RB_Rival2.png]]
| align="center" style="background:#fff" | [[Image:Y_Blue2.png]]
| align="center" style="background:#fff" colspan="2" | [[Image:Blue2.png]]
| align="center" style="background:#fff" colspan="3" | [[Image:Silver_Sprite_C.gif]]
|-
| align="center" style="background:#fff" colspan="3" | [[Image:RBChamp.PNG]]
| align="center" style="background:#fff" | [[Image:YellowChampionBlue.png]]
| align="center" style="background:#fff" colspan="2" | [[Image:FL_Blue.png]]
| align="center" style="background:#fff" colspan="3" |  
|}
{{-}}

===Pseudo Rivals===
{| align="center" style="background: #88a; -moz-border-radius: 10px; border: 5px solid #88a"
|-
! colspan="2" style="background:#bebed1; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 5px;" | {{color2|000|Region}}
! colspan="2" style="background:#{{johto color light}}" | {{color2|{{johto color dark}}|Johto}}
! colspan="3" style="background:#{{hoenn color light}}" | {{color2|{{hoenn color dark}}|Hoenn}}
! colspan="3" style="background:#{{sinnoh color light}}; -moz-border-radius-topright: 5px;" | {{color2|{{sinnoh color dark}}|Sinnoh}}
|-
! colspan="2" style="background:#bebed1" | {{color2|000|Pokémon game|Game}}
! style="background:#{{heartgold color}}" | {{color2|{{heartgold color dark}}|Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions|HG}}
! style="background:#{{soulsilver color}}" | {{color2|{{soulsilver color dark}}|Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions|SS}}
! style="background:#{{ruby color}}" | {{color2|{{ruby color dark}}|Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Versions|R}}
! style="background:#{{sapphire color light}}" | {{color2|{{sapphire color dark}}|Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Versions|S}}
! style="background:#{{emerald color}}" | {{color2|{{emerald color dark}}|Pokémon Emerald Version|E}}
! style="background:#{{diamond color}}" | {{color2|{{diamond color dark}}|Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|D}}
! style="background:#{{pearl color}}" | {{color2|{{pearl color dark}}|Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|P}}
! style="background:#{{platinum color}}" | {{color2|{{platinum color dark}}|Pokémon Platinum Version|Pt}}
|- align="center"
! rowspan="2" style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Male}}
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Name}}
| colspan="2" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Ethan (game)|Ethan}}
| colspan="3" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Brendan (game)|Brendan}}
| colspan="3" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Lucas (game)|Lucas}}
|- style="background:#fff"
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Sprite}}
| align="center" colspan="2" | [[Image:HGSS Ethan.png]]
| align="center" colspan="2" | [[Image:Brendan.png]]
| align="center" | [[Image:BrendanE.png]]
| align="center" colspan="2" | [[Image:Koki.png]]
| align="center" | [[Image:Lucasplatinum.png]]
|- align="center"
! rowspan="2" style="background:#bebed1; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft: 5px;" | {{color|000|Female}}
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Name}}
| colspan="2" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Lyra (game)|Lyra}}
| colspan="3" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|May (game)|May}}
| colspan="3" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Dawn (game)|Dawn}}
|-
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Sprite}}
| style="background:#fff" align="center" colspan="2" | [[Image:HGSS Lyra.png]]
| style="background:#fff" align="center" colspan="2" | [[Image:May.png]]
| style="background:#fff" align="center" | [[Image:MayE.png]]
| style="background:#fff" align="center" colspan="2" | [[Image:Hikari.png]]
| align="center" style="background:#fff; -moz-border-radius-bottomright: 5px;" | [[Image:Dawnplatinum.png]]
|}
{{-}}

==In the anime==
[[File:Ash and Paul.png|thumb|250px|Ash and his rival Paul]]
Various rivals for the {{Ashfr|main characters}} have also appeared in the {{pkmn|anime}}. Rivals in this sense refers to major recurring characters, as all of the main characters have had a "rival" who only appears in a single or few episodes that they eventually make up with. Examples include [[Morrison]] or {{jo|Harrison}}, while the major rivals are listed below.

*{{Ash}} has had [[Gary Oak]], [[Paul]], and {{an|Barry}} as his rivals. Both [[Nando]] and [[Conway]] may qualify, as seen in [[Suzuran Conference]], where they both battled and lost to Ash. Many other characters also collect badges and may be counted as rivals in the future.
*{{an|May}} has had both [[Drew]] and [[Harley]]. [[Solidad]] may also qualify, as the two battled in [[Kanto Grand Festival]] and Solidad was seen with Drew and Harley watching May in the [[Wallace Cup]] on [[television]].
*{{an|Dawn}} has [[Zoey]], {{si|Kenny}}, [[Ursula]], and [[Jessie]]. [[Nando]] may also qualify, though he and Dawn have yet to battle officially.
*[[Johanna]] had a childhood rivalry with [[Lila]].
*{{an|Brock}} had a friendly (and shortlived) rivalry with [[Suzy]].
*[[Jessie]] and [[James]] have a rivalry with [[Cassidy]] and [[Butch]], respectively.

==In the manga==
In [[Pokémon Adventures]], {{adv|Red}}'s first rivalry blossomed when, just as their game counterparts did, he and {{adv|Blue}} were each given the first two [[Pokédex]], as well as starter Pokémon to compliment their already growing parties (somewhat unlike in the games). Red received [[Saur|Bulbasaur]], while Blue acquired the starter that weakens his, and both times his [[Blue's Charizard|Charmander]] evolved before Red's. As would become a tradition in the manga, {{adv|Green}}, hearing of these two fellow [[Pallet Town]] trainers' big send offs on journeys, stole a [[Blasty|Squirtle]] (weakened by Red's) and proved to be a somewhat irritating obstacle for Red at times, stealing two of his badges and shrewdly taking his [[Moon Stone]] for later use before using the boy as a pawn to gather the seven known badges at the time to create [[Zapmolcuno]] (now knowing at the time that it would create a three-headed bird monster, a kind which she fears above all else). She also competed in the [[Pokémon League]] after Red's excursions in the [[Viridian Gym]] against [[Giovanni]], as well as his capture of [[Mewtwo (Adventures)|Mewtwo]]. She finally faced the then-disguised [[Professor Oak|Professor]] in the semi-finals, but after her phobia of bird Pokémon was exploited, she lost, and after Oak's forfeit, Red defeated his rival in the final match.

{{adv|Yellow}}, who took over as the protagonist two years later, had no real rival, but as both she and [[Lance]] of the [[Elite Four]] had the psychic healing powers of [[Viridian Forest]], he would most closely match this description.

One year later, the tradition of the rival character acquiring a starter that weakens the protagonist's would again be revisited when {{adv|Silver}} steals his [[Silver's Feraligatr|Totodile]] while {{adv|Gold}} took a [[Exbo|Cyndaquil]]. Once again, the rival would evolve his starter before the boy when his Totodile became a {{p|Croconaw}} before Gold's evolved to {{p|Quilava}}, but after they were horribly defeated and narrowly saved by {{p|Entei}}, they would fall into a coma lasting for several weeks, during which a third protagonist, {{adv|Crystal}}, is given a {{p|Chikorita}}, the last remaining starter (along with the final Pokédex), and it too evolved to a {{p|Bayleef}}. The three then were reunited in the [[Whirl Islands]], and evolved to the final stages simultaneously.

Years after the [[Masked Man]]'s defeat, {{adv|Ruby}} and {{adv|Sapphire}} would be given opposite starters, but unlike before (possibly attributed to the fact that Sapphire is female), Ruby would now acquire a [[Zuzu|Mudkip]] and Sapphire would be given the disadvantaged [[Toro|Torchic]]. Both evolved to their final stage similarly, though again the rival of the main playable character, Ruby, would evolve hers first both times.

Ironically, {{p|Treecko|the Grass-type starter}} would again meet the fate of being partnered after its chums when it at last becomes {{p|Grovyle}} with [[Wally]], and is revealed to have been smuggled into the [[Battle Frontier (Generation III)#Battle Factory|Battle Factory]] after evolving to its [[Emerald's Sceptile|final stage]] in the wild. As originally intended, it ended up with {{adv|Emerald}}.

The protagonists for the {{chap|Diamond & Pearl}} received the same type starters as the RGB seniors years before, when {{adv|Diamond}} (based on [[Lucas]]) ended up with a [[Wig|Turtwig]], {{adv|Pearl}} (based on the rival character) with a [[Chimhiko|Chimchar]], and {{adv|Platinum}} (based on {{ga|Dawn}}) was given a [[Platinum's Empoleon|Piplup]]. However, unlike the first protagonists, their starters evolved almost exactly at the same time, with Diamond and Pearl's starters evolving simultaneously both times.

==Trivia==
* Ash has captured a Pokémon belonging to each of his rivals. Both Gary and Ash captured {{p|Krabby}}, and Paul and Barry use a {{p|Torterra}}, {{p|Gliscor}}, {{p|Staraptor}}, and {{p|Heracross}}, respectively, matching up with Ash's own Pokémon.
* [[Harley]] is the oldest rival in the anime, being at the very least older than [[Brock]].
* Three of Ash's rivals each seem to be a parallel to each of Ash's female companions. Misty and Gary both have a bickering relationship with Ash; May and {{ho|Tyson}} are both known for their optimism and fondness for eating treats; Dawn and Barry both have mannerisms on capturing Pokémon of their likeness.
* [[Wally]] is the only rival to not have a sprite change in any of the games he is featured in. {{ga|Silver}} does not receive a sprite change in {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}, but does in {{3v2|Gold|Silver|Crystal}}.
* {{ga|May}} and [[Bel]] are the only female rivals in the games, though May ceases to be the rival by the end of the story, preferring to work as an assistant to her father instead ({{ga|Brendan}} does the same if the player is May).
* Although rivals typically choose their starter after the player has made his or her choice, all rivals in [[Pokémon Adventures]] choose and acquire their starter before the male player does, as {{adv|Blue}} picked Charmander before {{adv|Red}} receives [[Saur]], {{adv|Silver}} stole {{TP|Silver|Totodile}} before [[Exbo]] joined {{adv|Gold}}, and {{adv|Sapphire}} was given [[Toro]] before {{adv|Ruby}} picked [[Zuzu]]. However, in the latter's case, May actually does pick her starter before Brendan gets to start his journey.

{| align="center" border="0"
|-
| {{Rival characters}}
|-
| {{Gen I trainers}}
|-
| {{Project CharacterDex notice|tc}}
|}

[[Category:Trainer classes]]

[[de:Rivale]]
[[fr:Rival]]
[[ja:ライバル]]

Pokémon Black and White Versions

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Pocketfanmk:

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{{Infobox_game |
name = Pokémon Black and White |
boxart = [[Image:Pokemon Black Boxart JP.png|200px]][[Image:Pokemon White Boxart JP.png|200px]]|
caption = Pokémon Black and White Versions' JP boxart, featuring {{p|Reshiram}} and {{p|Zekrom}}. |
category = RPG |
players = 1-4 players simultaneous |
platform = [[Nintendo DS]] |
Wi-Fi compatible = Yes |
release_date_ja = September 18, 2010 |
release_date_au = N/A |
release_date_eu = Spring 2011 |
release_date_na = Spring 2011 |
release_date_kr = Spring 2011 |
publisher = [[Nintendo]]/[[The Pokémon Company]] |
developer = [[Game Freak]] |
esrb = N/A |
staff = no |
stafflink = Staff of Pokémon Black and White |
website_en = [http://www.pokemonblackwhite.com/ Pokémon Black and White minisite] |
website_ja = [http://www.pokemon-sp.jp/series/bw/ ポケットモンスターブラック・ホワイト] [http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ds/irbj/ ポケットモンスターダイヤモンド・パール] (@Nintendo) |
}}
{{bulbanews|game}}


'''Pokémon Black Version''' (Japanese: '''ポケットモンスターブラック''' ''Pocket Monsters Black'') and '''Pokémon White Version''' (Japanese: '''ポケットモンスターホワイト''' ''Pocket Monsters White'') are the primary [[paired version]]s of [[Generation V]]. They are, like [[Generation IV]]'s games, on the [[Nintendo DS]].

Black and White follow the trends set up by previous games in the series. Two [[player character]]s (one male and one female) travel a new region, [[Isshu]], on their [[Pokémon journey]]s. This region is inhabited by various {{OBP|Pokémon|species}}, almost all of which have not appeared prior to Black and White. The first of the new Pokémon to feature in these games, {{p|Zorua}} and {{p|Zoroark}}, were revealed on February 10, 2010 in [[CoroCoro]] magazine, and the [[starter Pokémon]] were revealed in May.

The games' names were revealed on the official Japanese Pokémon website on April 9, and scans from the subsequent issue of the magazine were leaked on April 10. These scans revealed some of the graphical enhancements that will be featured in these games. There is a higher level of 3D graphics than in previous games, as shown in some shots of the overworld. Initial sprites can be seen for Zorua, Zoroark, and the [[player character]]s.

In addition to the improved graphics, a number of aesthetic changes have been made from previous generations, including an altered battle scene containing fully animated Pokémon battle sprites as well as a dynamic camera that changes focus to highlight specific parts of the battle. Also, when talking to people, {{wp|speech balloon}}s for dialog will appear over people's heads, rather than as simply a dialog box.

Black and White are compatible with all five [[Generation IV]] games through use of the [[Pokéshifter]] - unlike [[Pal Park]], however, [[item]]s cannot be held by Pokémon being sent over. Pokémon can be sent from Generation III games, as well, by transfer through Generation IV. The games also have the capacity to connect to the internet; players can upload their save file and play online.

==Plot==



==Connectivity==
Much like its predecessors, Black and White allows players to connect to the previous generation of main series games. The [[Pokéshifter]] feature, which is unlocked after defeating the Elite Four and [[Team Plasma]], allows players to send over their Pokémon through DS Download Play. Transferred Pokémon are captured through a mini-game different from the one present in Generation IV's [[Pal Park]].

==Features==
Black and White returns features present in previous generations, such as day, time, abilities and the split between [[Physical move|Physical]] and [[Special move]]s. Certain ones, however, such as [[walking Pokémon|Pokémon following their Trainers]], have been left out.

===C-Gear===

===Pokémon Global Link===
{{main|Pokémon Global Link}}

====Pokémon Dream World====
{{main|Pokémon Dream World}}

===High Link===
{{main|High Link}}

===Pokémon Musical===
{{main|Pokémon Musical}}
Pokémon Contests, which have been present since [[Generation III]], are replaced by Pokémon Musicals. Similar to Contests, however, players may dress up their Pokémon when participating.

===Seasons===
Much like [[Generation II]] introduced as system of time, Generation V features changes in seasons. Seasons change every month. With it comes aesthetic changes in the region, as well as some changes with the Pokémon found in the wild. Additionally, {{p|Shikijika}} and its evolution {{p|Mebukijika}} change forms every season.

===Sprite animations===
While already featured in previous games, Pokémon sprites in Black and White remain animated throughout the battle. Additionally, full back sprites are now present in the games. Many Pokémon use animated versions of their [[Generation IV]] sprites. However, it should be noted that many [[Generation III]] Pokémon were given new sprites since they have used only one throughout the entire fourth generation. All Trainers, on the other hand, with the exception of [[Bel]], [[Cheren]] and [[N]], return to sprites with no animations.

===Triple Battles===

===Rotation Battles===

===New Gyms===
Pokémon Black and White brings back the traditional eight [[Gyms]], but with it a total of eleven [[Gym Leaders]]. They are [[Dent]], [[Pod]] and [[Corn]] ({{t|Grass}}, {{t|Fire}} and {{t|Water}}, respectively), [[Aloe]] ({{t|Normal}}), [[Arti]] ({{t|Bug}}), [[Kamitsure]] ({{t|Electric}}), [[Yacon]] ({{t|Ground}}), [[Fuuro]] ({{t|Flying}}), [[Shaga]] and [[Iris]] ({{t|Dragon}}). Dent, Pod or Corn are battled if the player has chosen the {{type|Water}}, {{type|Grass}} or {{type|Fire}} [[starter Pokémon]], respectively. Shaga is battled in Pokémon Black while Iris is battled in Pokémon White.

===Elite Four===
Unlike previous games, the Elite Four can be battled in any order. After battling all four, a path to the Champion is unlocked. The Elite Four members are [[Shikimi]] ({{t|Ghost}}), [[Giima]] ({{t|Dark}}), [[Caitlin]] ({{t|Psychic}}) and [[Renbu]] ({{t|Fighting}}). After defeating them for the first time, the Champion to be battled will be the female rival [[Bel]]. In subsequent matches, players battle [[Adeku]], who uses a variety of types. It should be noted that Caitlin is the same person present in the [[Battle Frontier (Generation IV)#Battle Castle|Battle Castle]] who was alongside her butler {{FB|Castle Valet|Darach}}.

===New Pokémon===
:: ''See [[List of Pokémon by Isshu Pokédex number]] and [[List of Pokémon by National Pokédex number]]''
Black and White bring a total of 156 new Pokémon, bringing the overall total to 649 from the 493 present in Generation IV. While some new Pokémon may have similarities to previously introduced Pokémon, none of the new Pokémon are related to any of the 493.

The first Pokémon to be revealed are {{p|Zorua}} and {{p|Zoroark}}, who were both featured in the [[M13|thirteenth Pokémon movie]]. Unlike previous generations, no other new Pokémon were featured in the anime.

====[[Version-exclusive Pokémon]]====

==Compability==

==Reception==

==Trivia==
* Pokémon Black and White are the [[n:Famitsu gives Black and White perfect score|first Pokémon games]] to receive a perfect 40/40 score from the gaming magazine Famitsu.
* On the [[C-Gear]], as well as in battle, the current time is displayed in {{wp|12-hour clock|12-hour}} format, however, at the hours of 12:00 AM and PM, the hour displays as 0, rather than 12, as a {{wp|24-hour clock}}, such as that on the DS and in the [[Generation IV]] games, would display midnight.
* Pokémon Black and White are the first first pair of games of a new generation to feature Pokémon sprite animations in battle. While they were present in {{game|Crystal}} and {{v2|Emerald}}, they were removed in the next pair of games released: {{game|Ruby and Sapphire|s}} and {{game|Diamond and Pearl|s}}, respectively.

===In other languages===
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|it=Pokémon Versione Nera e Versione Bianca
|kn=포켓몬스터 블랙 and 포켓몬스터 화이트
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{{Main series}}
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Player character

2010-10-03T02:01:51Z

Pocketfanmk:

[[Image:RedStart.png|frame|{{ga|Red}}'s [[Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen Versions|Pokémon journey]] is about to begin...]]
A '''player character''' in the world of [[Pokémon]] is the protagonist of the {{pkmn|games}}, the avatar of the player. Player characters are usually remarkably silent, only able to answer yes and no to questions. This is so that the player can "fill in" what they imagine the character is thinking, feeling and acting, thus immersing the player within the world of the game.

==Gameplay==
===Main series===
[[File:PlayerCharactersGrouped.png|thumb|320px|The player characters of the main series games (including redesigns)]]

In the mainstream games, the player characters are always [[Pokémon Trainer]]s beginning their [[Pokémon journey]]. While most player characters start their journey at the age of 10, the player characters in Generation V are set to be older. At the conclusion of their journey, most will have conquered a [[Pokémon League]]'s eight [[Gym Leader]]s and [[Elite Four]], and become the {{pkmn|Champion}}. Later games offer additional sidequests, although the main plot of the game is propelled by the Pokémon League challenge.

Those who do the above will most often start their journey in their [[hometown]] by getting, or shortly before getting, a [[starter Pokémon]], a Pokémon that appears very early in their native [[region]]'s [[Regional Pokédex|Pokédex]], and is of the {{t|Grass}}-, {{t|Fire}}-, or {{type2|Water}}. The region's native [[Pokémon professor]] will always give them this, as well as a Pokédex.

In {{game|Crystal}}, and each game in the [[main series]] which followed it, players were also able to pick the [[gender]] of the lead, more often than not to match their own.

Aside from the standard that many of the games' player characters take in their journey, there are also several other ways in which other player characters complete their journey, such as [[Wes]] and [[Michael]] who must defeat [[Cipher]] and free all of their [[snagged Pokémon]] from their [[Shadow Pokémon|Shadow state]].

To date, only one player character has reappeared from an older generation in a role other than that of the player. In [[Generation II]] and {{gen|IV}}, when {{ga|Ethan}} or {{ga|Kris}}/{{ga|Lyra}} travels to [[Mt. Silver]] and reaches the deepest point of the cave, {{ga|Red}} is found, utterly silent as he was under the player's control. At the time of these games' respective releases, [[Red's Pikachu]] was the highest-leveled Pokémon owned by an in-game Trainer ({{ga|Barry}}'s fully evolved starter Pokémon temporarily surpassed the standard set in Gold and Silver until the release of their remakes, HeartGold and SoulSilver).

===Side series===
In the {{ga|Pokémon Ranger}} series, [[Solana]], [[Lunick]], [[Kellyn]], {{ra|Kate}}, {{ra|Ben}} and {{ra|Summer}} are not Pokémon Trainers, but instead {{OBP|Pokémon Ranger|Ranger series}}s. They use the Pokémon they have captured with the [[Capture Styler]] to help them along the way. They also have [[partner Pokémon]] that follow them wherever they go.

In the [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon|Mystery Dungeon series]], players play as actual Pokémon for the first time. Unlike most other Pokémon games, the player actually talks, but is given pre-generated phrases to say to questions.

In the Card GB series, [[Mark]] and [[Mint]] do not use actual Pokémon themselves, but cards instead.

Three unnamed player characters appear in [[Pokémon Stadium series]]. Japanese-only [[Pokémon Stadium (Japanese)|Pokémon Stadium]] featured one boy character, whose design was likely based on {{ga|Red}}. However, for [[Pokémon Stadium|the sequel]] a brand new boy character has been created. This player has also made it to [[Pokémon Stadium 2]], where he was given a female counterpart. She appears when a player uses a [[Pokémon Crystal]] Game Pak with the girl chosen in the saved game. Like the main series player characters, these three remain silent throughout the games.

===Others===
In {{g|Snap}}, [[Todd Snap]] must strive for something different from Trainers. He must capture all the Pokémon on [[Pokémon Island]] — on film.

In [[Pokémon Trozei!]], the main protagonist is [[Lucy Fleetfoot]]. All the player has to do is tap the stage and Lucy accesses it. The player then plays the stage.

==Images==

===Main series===

====Handheld====
{| align="center" style="background: #88a; {{roundy|10px}} border: 5px solid #88a"
|-
! colspan="2" style="background:#bebed1; {{roundytl|5px}}" | {{color2|000|Region}}
! colspan="6" style="background:#{{kanto color light}}" | {{color2|{{kanto color dark}}|Kanto}}
! colspan="5" style="background:#{{johto color light}}" | {{color2|{{johto color dark}}|Johto}}
! colspan="3" style="background:#{{hoenn color light}}" | {{color2|{{hoenn color dark}}|Hoenn}}
! colspan="3" style="background:#{{sinnoh color light}}" | {{color2|{{sinnoh color dark}}|Sinnoh}}
! colspan="2" style="background:#{{isshu color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | {{color2|{{isshu color dark}}|Isshu}}
|-
! colspan="2" style="background:#bebed1" | {{color2|000|Pokémon game|Game}}
! style="background:#{{red color}}" | {{color2|{{red color dark}}|Pokémon Red and Blue Versions|R}}
! style="background:#{{green color}}" | {{color2|{{green color dark}}|Pokémon Red and Green Versions|G}}
! style="background:#{{blue color}}" | {{color2|{{blue color dark}}|Pokémon Blue Version (Japanese)|B}}
! style="background:#{{yellow color}}" | {{color2|{{yellow color dark}}|Pokémon Yellow Version|Y}}
! style="background:#{{firered color}}" | {{color2|{{firered color dark}}|Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen Versions|FR}}
! style="background:#{{leafgreen color}}" | {{color2|{{leafgreen color dark}}|Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen Versions|LG}}
! style="background:#{{gold color}}" | {{color2|{{gold color dark}}|Pokémon Gold and Silver Versions|G}}
! style="background:#{{silver color}}" | {{color2|{{silver color dark}}|Pokémon Gold and Silver Versions|S}}
! style="background:#{{crystal color}}" | {{color2|{{crystal color dark}}|Pokémon Crystal Version|C}}
! style="background:#{{heartgold color}}" | {{color2|{{heartgold color dark}}|Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions|HG}}
! style="background:#{{soulsilver color}}" | {{color2|{{soulsilver color dark}}|Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions|SS}}
! style="background:#{{ruby color}}" | {{color2|{{ruby color dark}}|Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Versions|R}}
! style="background:#{{sapphire color light}}" | {{color2|{{sapphire color dark}}|Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Versions|S}}
! style="background:#{{emerald color}}" | {{color2|{{emerald color dark}}|Pokémon Emerald Version|E}}
! style="background:#{{diamond color}}" | {{color2|{{diamond color dark}}|Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|D}}
! style="background:#{{pearl color}}" | {{color2|{{pearl color dark}}|Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|P}}
! style="background:#{{platinum color}}" | {{color2|{{platinum color dark}}|Pokémon Platinum Version|Pt}}
! style="background:#{{black color}}" | {{color2|{{black color dark}}|Pokémon Black and White Versions|B}}
! style="background:#{{white color}}" | {{color2|{{white color dark}}|Pokémon Black and White Versions|W}}
|- align="center"
! rowspan="3" style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Male}}
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Name}}
| colspan="6" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Red (game)|Red}}
| colspan="5" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Ethan (game)|Ethan}}
| colspan="3" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Brendan (game)|Brendan}}
| colspan="3" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Lucas (game)|Lucas}}
| colspan="2" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Touya (game)|Touya}}
|- style="background:#fff"
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Front}}
| align="center" colspan="3" | [[File:Red main sprite.png]]
| align="center" | [[File:Y Red.png]]
| align="center" colspan="2" | [[File:FRLG Red.png]]
| align="center" colspan="2" | [[File:GS Gold.png]]
| align="center" | [[File:C Gold.png]]
| align="center" colspan="2" | [[File:HGSS Ethan.png]]
| align="center" colspan="2" | [[File:RS Brendan.png]]
| align="center" | [[File:E Brendan.png]]
| align="center" colspan="2" | [[File:DP Lucas.png]]
| align="center" | [[File:Pt Lucas.png]]
| align="center" colspan="2" | [[File:BW Black.png]]
|- style="background:#fff"
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Back}}
| align="center" colspan="3" | [[File:Redback.png]]
| align="center" | [[File:Y_Red_Back.png]]
| align="center" colspan="2" | [[File:FRLG_Red_Back.png]]
| align="center" colspan="3" | [[File:GS_Gold_Back.png]]
| align="center" colspan="2" | [[File:HGSS_Gold_Back.png]]
| align="center" colspan="2" | [[File:RS_Brendan_Back.png]]
| align="center" | [[File:E_Brendan_Back.png]]
| align="center" colspan="2" | [[File:DP_Lucas_Back.png]]
| align="center" | [[File:Pt_Lucas_Back.png]]
| align="center" colspan="2" | Currently unavailable
|- align="center"
! rowspan="3" style="background:#bebed1; {{roundybl|5px}}" | {{color|000|Female}}
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Name}}
| valign="center" rowspan="3" colspan="4" style="background:#fff" | {{color|000|No female player character}}
| colspan="2" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Leaf (game)|Leaf}}
| align="center" rowspan="3" colspan="2" style="background:#fff" | {{color|000|No female player character}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Kris (game)|Kris}}
| colspan="2" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Lyra (game)|Lyra}}
| colspan="3" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|May (game)|May}}
| colspan="3" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Dawn (game)|Dawn}}
| colspan="2" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Touko (game)|Touko}}
|- style="background:#fff"
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Front}}
| align="center" colspan="2" | [[File:FRLG Leaf.png]]
| align="center" | [[File:C Kris.png]]
| align="center" colspan="2" style="background:#fff" | [[File:HGSS Lyra.png]]
| align="center" colspan="2" | [[File:RS May.png]]
| align="center" | [[File:E May.png]]
| align="center" colspan="2" | [[File:DP Dawn.png]]
| align="center" | [[File:Pt Dawn.png]]
| align="center" colspan="2" | [[File:BW White.png]]
|-
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Back}}
| align="center" colspan="2" style="background:#fff" | [[File:FRLG_Leaf_Back.png]]
| align="center" style="background:#fff" | [[File:C_Kris_Back.png]]
| align="center" colspan="2" style="background:#fff" | [[File:HGSS Kotone Back.png]]
| align="center" style="background:#fff" colspan="2" | [[File:RS_May_Back.png]]
| align="center" style="background:#fff" | [[File:E_May_Back.png]]
| align="center" style="background:#fff" colspan="2" | [[File:DP_Dawn_Back.png]]
| align="center" style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" | [[File:Pt_Dawn_Back.png]]
| align="center" colspan="2" style="background:#fff" | Currently unavailable
|}
{{-}}

====Console====
{| align="center" style="background: #88a; {{roundy|10px}} border: 5px solid #88a"
|-
! style="background:#bebed1; {{roundytl|5px}}" | {{color2|000|Region}}
! colspan="3" style="background:#bebed1; {{roundytr|5px}}" | {{color2|000|Orre}}
|-
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color2|000|Pokémon game|Game}}
! style="background:#{{colo color}}" | {{color2|{{colo color dark}}|Pokémon Colosseum|Colo}}
! style="background:#{{xd color}}" | {{color2|{{xd color dark}}|Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness|XD}}
|- align="center"
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Name}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Wes}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Michael}}
|- align="center"
! style="background:#bebed1; {{roundybl|5px}}" | {{color|000|Artwork}}
| style="background:#fff" | [[File:Colosseum Wes 3D.png|60px]]
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" |[[File:Michael.jpg|140px]]
|}
{{-}}

===Side series===
====Card GB series====
{| align="center" style="background: #88a; {{roundy|10px}} border: 5px solid #88a"
|-
! colspan="2" style="background:#bebed1; {{roundytl|5px}};" | {{color2|000|Pokémon game|Game}}
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color2|000|Pokémon Trading Card Game (game)|TCG}}
! style="background:#bebed1; {{roundytr|5px}}" | {{color2|000|Pokémon Card GB2: Here Comes Team GR!|TCG 2}}
|- align="center"
! rowspan="2" style="background:#bebed1" | Male
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Name}}
| colspan="2" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Mark}}
|- align="center"
! style="background:#bebed1" | Sprite
| colspan="2" style="background:#fff" | [[File:TCG1_Mark.png]]
|- align="center"
! rowspan="2" style="background:#bebed1; {{roundybl|5px}}" | {{color|000|Female}}
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Name}}
| rowspan="2" style="background:#fff" | No female player character
| style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Mint}}
|- align="center"
! style="background:#bebed1" | Sprite
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" | [[File:Mint 2.jpg]]
|}
{{-}}

====Stadium series====
{| align="center" style="background: #88a; {{roundy|10px}}; border: 5px solid #88a"
|-
! colspan="2" style="background:#bebed1; {{roundytl|5px}}" | {{color2|000|Pokémon game|Game}}
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color2|000|Pokémon Stadium (Japanese)|Stadium (Japan)}}
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color2|000|Pokémon Stadium|Stadium}}
! style="background:#bebed1; {{roundytr|5px}}" | {{color2|000|Pokémon Stadium 2|Stadium 2}}
|- align="center"
! style="background:#bebed1;" | Male
! style="background:#bebed1;" | Image
| style="background:#fff" | [[File:SJP Player Boy.png]]
| colspan="2" style="background:#fff;" |[[File:S S2 Player Boy.png]]
|- align="center"
! style="background:#bebed1; {{roundybl|5px}}" | Female
! style="background:#bebed1;" | Image
| colspan="2" style="background:#fff" | No female player character
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" |[[File:S2 Player Girl.png]]
|}
{{-}}

====Ranger series====
{| align="center" style="background: #88a; {{roundy|10px}} border: 5px solid #88a"
|-
! colspan="2" style="background:#bebed1; {{roundytl|5px}}" | {{color2|000|Region}}
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color2|000|Fiore}}
! colspan="3" style="background:#bebed1" | {{color2|000|Almia}}
! colspan="2" style="background:#bebed1; {{roundytr|5px}}" | {{color2|000|Oblivia}}
|-
! colspan="2" style="background:#bebed1" | {{color2|000|Pokémon game|Game}}
! style="background:#{{ranger color}}" | {{color2|{{ranger color dark}}|Pokémon Ranger (game)|Ranger}}
! colspan="3" style="background:#{{SoA color}}" | {{color2|{{SoA color dark}}|Pokémon Ranger: Shadows of Almia|Shadows of Almia}}
! colspan="2" style="background:#{{GS color}}" | {{color2|{{GS color dark}}|Pokémon Ranger: Guardian Signs|Guardian Signs}}
|- align="center"
! rowspan="3" style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Male}}
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Name}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Lunick}}
| colspan="3" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Kellyn}}
| colspan="2" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Ben (Ranger)|Ben}}
|- align="center"
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Front}}
| style="background:#fff" | [[File:Ra Lunick f.png]]
| style="background:#fff" | [[File:Soa Kellyn st f.png]]
| style="background:#fff" | [[File:Soa Kellyn ra f.png]]
| style="background:#fff" | [[File:Soa Kellyn top f.png]]
| colspan="2" style="background:#fff" | [[File:Lol Natsuya f.png]]
|- align="center"
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Back}}
| style="background:#fff" | [[File:Ra Lunick b.png]]
| style="background:#fff" | [[File:Soa Kellyn st b.png]]
| style="background:#fff" | [[File:Soa Kellyn ra b.png]]
| style="background:#fff" | [[File:Soa Kellyn top b.png]]
| style="background:#fff" | [[File:Lol Natsuya b.png]]
| style="background:#fff" | [[File:Lol Natsuya b w.png]]
|- align="center"
! rowspan="3" style="background:#bebed1; {{roundybl|5px}}" | {{color|000|Female}}
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Name}}
| style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Solana}}
| colspan="3" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Kate (Ranger)|Kate}}
| colspan="2" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Summer (Ranger)|Summer}}
|- align="center"
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Front}}
| style="background:#fff" | [[File:Ra Solana f.png]]
| style="background:#fff" | [[File:Soa Kate st f.png]]
| style="background:#fff" | [[File:Soa Kate ra f.png]]
| style="background:#fff" | [[File:Soa Kate top f.png]]
| colspan="2" style="background:#fff" | [[File:Lol Minami f.png]]
|- align="center"
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Back}}
| style="background:#fff" | [[File:Ra Solana b.png]]
| style="background:#fff" | [[File:Soa Kate st b.png]]
| style="background:#fff" | [[File:Soa Kate ra b.png]]
| style="background:#fff" | [[File:Soa Kate top b.png]]
| style="background:#fff" | [[File:Lol Minami b.png]]
| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" | [[File:Lol Minami b w.png]]
|}
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====Mystery Dungeon series====
:''See: [[Starter Pokémon#Pokémon World|Starter Pokémon]]''

===Others===
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| style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Lucy Fleetfoot|Lucy}}
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| style="background:#fff; {{roundybr|5px}}" |[[File:LucyFleetfoot.gif|140px]]
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==In the anime==
In the {{pkmn|anime}}, five of the player characters have been given major roles, three of them in the main anime series. {{Ash}} and [[Ritchie]] represent {{ga|Red}} (their game counterpart), being based on him in appearance as well as basic history. At the beginning of {{series2|Advanced Generation}}, {{an|May}} was introduced in order to better represent [[Generation III]] to viewers, as both [[Misty]] and [[Brock]] are characters native to [[Generation I]]. Likewise, at the beginning of the {{series|Diamond & Pearl}}, {{an|Dawn}} joined Ash.

{{jo|Jimmy}} and {{jo|Marina}} appeared in ''[[The Legend of Thunder!]]'' special, taking a similar role to Ash and his companions, fighting [[Team Rocket]] members to protect [[legendary Pokémon]]. While the protagonists of [[Generation II]] were not represented in Ash's party, these two filled the roles as the anime counterparts to {{ga|Ethan}} and {{ga|Kris}}.

{{an|Lyra}} appears in ''[[DP143|An Egg Scramble!]]'', and joins the group for a brief time.

So far, {{ga|Brendan}} has only made a few select cameo appearances at the begin of some of the [[Pokémon movie|movies]], while {{ga|Lucas}} made a cameo at the beginning of ''[[M11|Giratina and the Sky Warrior]]'' battling {{ga|Brendan}}.

Neither of the Generation V player characters have yet been seen in the anime.

==In the manga==
Most of the characters in Pokémon {{pkmn|manga}} are based on player and rival characters from the main series, with {{adv|Red}} being based on his game counterpart. This is also the case for his two fellow Kanto [[Pokédex Holder]]s, and the same applies for nearly all other main characters in the series; {{adv|Gold}}, for example, is based on the then-unnamed player character Ethan. However, because the [[Pokémon Yellow Version|Yellow version]], the fourth installment to the first generation, gave no additional protagonists, {{adv|Yellow}} was created, revealed to have been the girl Red rescued in the [[Viridian Forest]] before his battle with [[Giovanni]]. {{adv|Emerald}} is another cognate case, as in the entirety of [[Generation III]], only two player characters were given. [[Wally]], the closest thing to a third main character, was dropped in favor of this new character designed entirely from scratch. As of the [[Diamond & Pearl chapter (Adventures)|DP]] and [[Platinum chapter (Adventures)|Platinum chapters]], only the first ten main characters have met each other, as none of the Sinnoh Dex Holders have ventured out of their region.

Additionally, though {{ga|Lyra}} is almost universally accepted as a different character from {{ga|Kris}}, rather than a redesign like Ethan, {{Adv|Crystal}} has appeared wearing her clothes to serve as a counterpart, rather than introducing a second [[Johto]] female protagonist for the {{chap|HeartGold & SoulSilver}}.

==Trivia==
* None of the male player characters from the [[main series]] have encountered {{Ash}}, the main character from the [[Pokémon anime]]. Ash has only met male characters from side games, like {{ga|Pokémon Ranger}}. [[Jimmy (Johto)|One counterpart of a male player character]] has met Ash, however, in the thirteenth movie.
* {{ga|Red}}'s dialogue during his appearance as an NPC in [[Generation II]] and [[Generation IV]] references the Pokémon games' player characters' status as silent protagonists. His dialogue with the player character(s) of those games consists only of ellipses and an exclamation point when he is defeated.
* {{ga|Leaf}} is the only player character from the handheld games so far not to appear in the anime either through a cameo or a counterpart.
* All player characters of the same gender have had the same list of default names since Generation III, with the exception of game-specific names such as Landon and Sean (for {{ga|Brendan}}) or Terra and Marina (for {{ga|May}}). The game-specific names have always been related to the title or aspects of the game.
* Until [[Generation V]], the given Japanese names of the male player characters in the main series games(as NPCs) all end in ''ki'' ('''キ'''). This excludes Red's appearance in Generations II and IV, as he is not a player character during the games when he is an NPC. Inclusively, Lunick's Japanese name also ends in ''ki''.

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Rival

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:''For the [[Elite Four]] {{pkmn|Champion}} in {{eng|Pokémon Stadium}}, see [[Blue (game)]]''.
:''For the Japanese opening theme, see [[The Rivals]].''
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[[File:Rival artwork.png|thumb|right|The first battle with the player's rival]]
A '''Rival''' (Japanese: '''ライバル''' ''Rival'') is a type of [[Pokémon Trainer]] that first debuted in the [[Generation I]] games, and is a recurring opponent to the {{player}} throughout the game. It specifically refers to {{ga|Blue}} and {{ga|Silver}}. However, there are [[Pokémon]] Trainers who may not be formally described as rivals, but have characteristics reminiscent of those of Blue and Silver. These Trainers are the following: {{ga|Brendan}} or {{ga|May}}, depending on the player's [[gender]], as well as [[Wally]], in {{game2|Ruby|Sapphire|Emerald}}, {{ga|Barry}} in {{game2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}, and {{ga|Bel}} and [[Cheren]] in {{game|Black and White|s}}. {{ga|Lucas}}, {{ga|Dawn}}, {{ga|Ethan}}, and {{ga|Lyra}} (whichever the player is not) are sometimes said to be rivals; however, they never actually battle ''against'' the player.

Typically, rivals will be met by the player early in the game, usually around the time the player receives their [[starter Pokémon]]. In most games, the rival will also obtain a starter Pokémon, and will usually participate in the player's first [[Pokémon battle]] against a trainer. From then on, rivals will appear frequently throughout the player's journey, always being one step ahead of the player as the player moves through the region, meeting and battling the player at various points in the game with a progressively stronger and diversified [[party]]. Usually they must be defeated in order to continue the game; the most important of these battles happening either right before or during the player's challenge to the [[Elite Four]]. After the defeat of the [[Elite Four]] and the [[Pokémon Champion]], the rival can usually be battled at the player's leisure, but only at certain times with increasingly powerful Pokémon.

More often than not, they will have the starter Pokémon of their home region that weakens the one the player chose at the beginning of the game. The exceptions are Wally, who instead uses {{p|Ralts}} as his starter, either Lucas or Dawn, of whom one uses the starter Pokémon that is actually weak to the player's choice to complement how {{ga|Barry}} picks the starter the player is weak to, either Ethan or Lyra, who do not have any shown Pokémon other than a {{p|Marill}}; however, {{an|Lyra|Lyra's anime counterpart}} has a {{p|Chikorita}}, and it is never directly stated that they do not have a Johto starter Pokémon and {{ga|Bel}}, who in Pokémon Black and White, chooses the starter weak to the player's. Since they are not rivals in the traditional sense, they are referred to as pseudo-rivals. Most of them use a variety of Pokémon for the remainder of their teams. The [[Pokémon Yellow Version]] of Blue starts with an {{p|Eevee}}, and should the player's {{ga|Red's Pikachu|Pikachu}} lose the first battle in the lab, he will evolve it into a {{p|Vaporeon}}, thus giving the player the advantage.

[[image:RivalCharactersGrouped.png|thumb|320px|The Rivals of the main series games (including redesigns)]]

==Images==
===Main Rivals===
{| align="center" style="background: #88a; -moz-border-radius: 10px; border: 5px solid #88a"
|-
! style="background:#bebed1; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 5px;" | {{color2|000|Region}}
! colspan="6" style="background:#{{kanto color light}}" | {{color2|{{kanto color dark}}|Kanto}}
! colspan="5" style="background:#{{johto color light}}" | {{color2|{{johto color dark}}|Johto}}
! colspan="3" style="background:#{{hoenn color light}}" | {{color2|{{hoenn color dark}}|Hoenn}}
! colspan="4" style="background:#{{sinnoh color light}}" | {{color2|{{sinnoh color dark}}|Sinnoh}}
! colspan="6" style="background:#{{isshu color light}}; -moz-border-radius-topright: 5px;" | {{color2|{{isshu color dark}}|Isshu}}
|-
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color2|000|Pokémon game|Game}}
! style="background:#{{red color}}" | {{color2|{{red color dark}}|Pokémon Red and Blue Versions|R}}
! style="background:#{{green color}}" | {{color2|{{green color dark}}|Pokémon Red and Green Versions|G}}
! style="background:#{{blue color}}" | {{color2|{{blue color dark}}|Pokémon Blue Version (Japanese)|B}}
! style="background:#{{yellow color}}" | {{color2|{{yellow color dark}}|Pokémon Yellow Version|Y}}
! style="background:#{{firered color}}" | {{color2|{{firered color dark}}|Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen Versions|FR}}
! style="background:#{{leafgreen color}}" | {{color2|{{leafgreen color dark}}|Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen Versions|LG}}
! style="background:#{{gold color}}" | {{color2|{{gold color dark}}|Pokémon Gold and Silver Versions|G}}
! style="background:#{{silver color}}" | {{color2|{{silver color dark}}|Pokémon Gold and Silver Versions|S}}
! style="background:#{{crystal color}}" | {{color2|{{crystal color dark}}|Pokémon Crystal Version|C}}
! style="background:#{{heartgold color}}" | {{color2|{{heartgold color dark}}|Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions|HG}}
! style="background:#{{soulsilver color}}" | {{color2|{{soulsilver color dark}}|Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions|SS}}
! style="background:#{{ruby color}}" | {{color2|{{ruby color dark}}|Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Versions|R}}
! style="background:#{{sapphire color light}}" | {{color2|{{sapphire color dark}}|Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Versions|S}}
! style="background:#{{emerald color}}" | {{color2|{{emerald color dark}}|Pokémon Emerald Version|E}}
! style="background:#{{diamond color}}" | {{color2|{{diamond color dark}}|Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|D}}
! style="background:#{{pearl color}}" | {{color2|{{pearl color dark}}|Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|P}}
! style="background:#{{platinum color}}" | {{color2|{{platinum color dark}}|Pokémon Platinum Version|Pt}}
! style="background:#{{black color}}" | {{color2|{{black color dark}}|Pokémon Black and White Versions|B}}
! style="background:#{{white color}}" | {{color2|{{white color dark}}|Pokémon Black and White Versions|W}}
|- align="center"
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Name}}
| colspan="6" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Blue (game)|Blue}}
| colspan="5" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Silver (game)|Silver}}
| colspan="3" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Wally|Wally}}
| colspan="4" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Barry (game)|Barry}}
| colspan="3" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Cheren|Cheren}}
| colspan="3" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Bel|Bel}}
|-
! rowspan="3" style="background:#bebed1; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft: 5px;" | {{color|000|Sprite(s)}}
| align="center" style="background:#fff" colspan="3" | [[Image:RBBlue.png]]
| align="center" style="background:#fff" | [[Image:Y_Blue.png]]
| align="center" style="background:#fff" colspan="2" | [[Image:Blue1.png]]
| align="center" style="background:#fff" colspan="3" | [[Image:Silver_Sprite_GS.gif]]
| rowspan="3" align="center" style="background:#fff" colspan="2"| [[Image:SilverHGSS.gif]]
| rowspan="3" align="center" style="background:#fff" colspan="3" | [[Image:Wally_game.PNG]]
| rowspan="3" align="center" style="background:#fff" colspan="2" | [[Image:Jun.png]]
| rowspan="3" align="center" style="background:#fff" colspan="2" | [[Image:RivalPlatinum.gif]]
| rowspan="3" align="center" style="background:#fff" colspan="3" | [[File:BW Cheren Sprite.png]]
| rowspan="3" align="center" style="background:#fff" -moz-border-radius-bottomright: 5px;" | [[File:BW Bel Sprite.png]]
|-
| align="center" style="background:#fff" colspan="3" | [[Image:RB_Rival2.png]]
| align="center" style="background:#fff" | [[Image:Y_Blue2.png]]
| align="center" style="background:#fff" colspan="2" | [[Image:Blue2.png]]
| align="center" style="background:#fff" colspan="3" | [[Image:Silver_Sprite_C.gif]]
|-
| align="center" style="background:#fff" colspan="3" | [[Image:RBChamp.PNG]]
| align="center" style="background:#fff" | [[Image:YellowChampionBlue.png]]
| align="center" style="background:#fff" colspan="2" | [[Image:FL_Blue.png]]
| align="center" style="background:#fff" colspan="3" |  
|}
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===Pseudo Rivals===
{| align="center" style="background: #88a; -moz-border-radius: 10px; border: 5px solid #88a"
|-
! colspan="2" style="background:#bebed1; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 5px;" | {{color2|000|Region}}
! colspan="2" style="background:#{{johto color light}}" | {{color2|{{johto color dark}}|Johto}}
! colspan="3" style="background:#{{hoenn color light}}" | {{color2|{{hoenn color dark}}|Hoenn}}
! colspan="3" style="background:#{{sinnoh color light}}; -moz-border-radius-topright: 5px;" | {{color2|{{sinnoh color dark}}|Sinnoh}}
|-
! colspan="2" style="background:#bebed1" | {{color2|000|Pokémon game|Game}}
! style="background:#{{heartgold color}}" | {{color2|{{heartgold color dark}}|Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions|HG}}
! style="background:#{{soulsilver color}}" | {{color2|{{soulsilver color dark}}|Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions|SS}}
! style="background:#{{ruby color}}" | {{color2|{{ruby color dark}}|Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Versions|R}}
! style="background:#{{sapphire color light}}" | {{color2|{{sapphire color dark}}|Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Versions|S}}
! style="background:#{{emerald color}}" | {{color2|{{emerald color dark}}|Pokémon Emerald Version|E}}
! style="background:#{{diamond color}}" | {{color2|{{diamond color dark}}|Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|D}}
! style="background:#{{pearl color}}" | {{color2|{{pearl color dark}}|Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|P}}
! style="background:#{{platinum color}}" | {{color2|{{platinum color dark}}|Pokémon Platinum Version|Pt}}
|- align="center"
! rowspan="2" style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Male}}
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Name}}
| colspan="2" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Ethan (game)|Ethan}}
| colspan="3" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Brendan (game)|Brendan}}
| colspan="3" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Lucas (game)|Lucas}}
|- style="background:#fff"
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Sprite}}
| align="center" colspan="2" | [[Image:HGSS Ethan.png]]
| align="center" colspan="2" | [[Image:Brendan.png]]
| align="center" | [[Image:BrendanE.png]]
| align="center" colspan="2" | [[Image:Koki.png]]
| align="center" | [[Image:Lucasplatinum.png]]
|- align="center"
! rowspan="2" style="background:#bebed1; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft: 5px;" | {{color|000|Female}}
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Name}}
| colspan="2" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Lyra (game)|Lyra}}
| colspan="3" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|May (game)|May}}
| colspan="3" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Dawn (game)|Dawn}}
|-
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Sprite}}
| style="background:#fff" align="center" colspan="2" | [[Image:HGSS Lyra.png]]
| style="background:#fff" align="center" colspan="2" | [[Image:May.png]]
| style="background:#fff" align="center" | [[Image:MayE.png]]
| style="background:#fff" align="center" colspan="2" | [[Image:Hikari.png]]
| align="center" style="background:#fff; -moz-border-radius-bottomright: 5px;" | [[Image:Dawnplatinum.png]]
|}
{{-}}

==In the anime==
[[File:Ash and Paul.png|thumb|250px|Ash and his rival Paul]]
Various rivals for the {{Ashfr|main characters}} have also appeared in the {{pkmn|anime}}. Rivals in this sense refers to major recurring characters, as all of the main characters have had a "rival" who only appears in a single or few episodes that they eventually make up with. Examples include [[Morrison]] or {{jo|Harrison}}, while the major rivals are listed below.

*{{Ash}} has had [[Gary Oak]], [[Paul]], and {{an|Barry}} as his rivals. Both [[Nando]] and [[Conway]] may qualify, as seen in [[Suzuran Conference]], where they both battled and lost to Ash. Many other characters also collect badges and may be counted as rivals in the future.
*{{an|May}} has had both [[Drew]] and [[Harley]]. [[Solidad]] may also qualify, as the two battled in [[Kanto Grand Festival]] and Solidad was seen with Drew and Harley watching May in the [[Wallace Cup]] on [[television]].
*{{an|Dawn}} has [[Zoey]], {{si|Kenny}}, [[Ursula]], and [[Jessie]]. [[Nando]] may also qualify, though he and Dawn have yet to battle officially.
*[[Johanna]] had a childhood rivalry with [[Lila]].
*{{an|Brock}} had a friendly (and shortlived) rivalry with [[Suzy]].
*[[Jessie]] and [[James]] have a rivalry with [[Cassidy]] and [[Butch]], respectively.

==In the manga==
In [[Pokémon Adventures]], {{adv|Red}}'s first rivalry blossomed when, just as their game counterparts did, he and {{adv|Blue}} were each given the first two [[Pokédex]], as well as starter Pokémon to compliment their already growing parties (somewhat unlike in the games). Red received [[Saur|Bulbasaur]], while Blue acquired the starter that weakens his, and both times his [[Blue's Charizard|Charmander]] evolved before Red's. As would become a tradition in the manga, {{adv|Green}}, hearing of these two fellow [[Pallet Town]] trainers' big send offs on journeys, stole a [[Blasty|Squirtle]] (weakened by Red's) and proved to be a somewhat irritating obstacle for Red at times, stealing two of his badges and shrewdly taking his [[Moon Stone]] for later use before using the boy as a pawn to gather the seven known badges at the time to create [[Zapmolcuno]] (now knowing at the time that it would create a three-headed bird monster, a kind which she fears above all else). She also competed in the [[Pokémon League]] after Red's excursions in the [[Viridian Gym]] against [[Giovanni]], as well as his capture of [[Mewtwo (Adventures)|Mewtwo]]. She finally faced the then-disguised [[Professor Oak|Professor]] in the semi-finals, but after her phobia of bird Pokémon was exploited, she lost, and after Oak's forfeit, Red defeated his rival in the final match.

{{adv|Yellow}}, who took over as the protagonist two years later, had no real rival, but as both she and [[Lance]] of the [[Elite Four]] had the psychic healing powers of [[Viridian Forest]], he would most closely match this description.

One year later, the tradition of the rival character acquiring a starter that weakens the protagonist's would again be revisited when {{adv|Silver}} steals his [[Silver's Feraligatr|Totodile]] while {{adv|Gold}} took a [[Exbo|Cyndaquil]]. Once again, the rival would evolve his starter before the boy when his Totodile became a {{p|Croconaw}} before Gold's evolved to {{p|Quilava}}, but after they were horribly defeated and narrowly saved by {{p|Entei}}, they would fall into a coma lasting for several weeks, during which a third protagonist, {{adv|Crystal}}, is given a {{p|Chikorita}}, the last remaining starter (along with the final Pokédex), and it too evolved to a {{p|Bayleef}}. The three then were reunited in the [[Whirl Islands]], and evolved to the final stages simultaneously.

Years after the [[Masked Man]]'s defeat, {{adv|Ruby}} and {{adv|Sapphire}} would be given opposite starters, but unlike before (possibly attributed to the fact that Sapphire is female), Ruby would now acquire a [[Zuzu|Mudkip]] and Sapphire would be given the disadvantaged [[Toro|Torchic]]. Both evolved to their final stage similarly, though again the rival of the main playable character, Ruby, would evolve hers first both times.

Ironically, {{p|Treecko|the Grass-type starter}} would again meet the fate of being partnered after its chums when it at last becomes {{p|Grovyle}} with [[Wally]], and is revealed to have been smuggled into the [[Battle Frontier (Generation III)#Battle Factory|Battle Factory]] after evolving to its [[Emerald's Sceptile|final stage]] in the wild. As originally intended, it ended up with {{adv|Emerald}}.

The protagonists for the {{chap|Diamond & Pearl}} received the same type starters as the RGB seniors years before, when {{adv|Diamond}} (based on [[Lucas]]) ended up with a [[Wig|Turtwig]], {{adv|Pearl}} (based on the rival character) with a [[Chimhiko|Chimchar]], and {{adv|Platinum}} (based on {{ga|Dawn}}) was given a [[Platinum's Empoleon|Piplup]]. However, unlike the first protagonists, their starters evolved almost exactly at the same time, with Diamond and Pearl's starters evolving simultaneously both times.

==Trivia==
* Ash has captured a Pokémon belonging to each of his rivals. Both Gary and Ash captured {{p|Krabby}}, and Paul and Barry use a {{p|Torterra}}, {{p|Gliscor}}, {{p|Staraptor}}, and {{p|Heracross}}, respectively, matching up with Ash's own Pokémon.
* [[Harley]] is the oldest rival in the anime, being at the very least older than [[Brock]].
* Three of Ash's rivals each seem to be a parallel to each of Ash's female companions. Misty and Gary both have a bickering relationship with Ash; May and {{ho|Tyson}} are both known for their optimism and fondness for eating treats; Dawn and Barry both have mannerisms on capturing Pokémon of their likeness.
* [[Wally]] is the only rival to not have a sprite change in any of the games he is featured in. {{ga|Silver}} does not receive a sprite change in {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}, but does in {{3v2|Gold|Silver|Crystal}}.
* {{ga|May}} is the only female rival in the games, though she ceases to be the rival by the end of the story, preferring to work as an assistant to her father instead ({{ga|Brendan}} does the same if the player is May).
* Although rivals typically choose their starter after the player has made his or her choice, all rivals in [[Pokémon Adventures]] choose and acquire their starter before the male player does, as {{adv|Blue}} picked Charmander before {{adv|Red}} receives [[Saur]], {{adv|Silver}} stole {{TP|Silver|Totodile}} before [[Exbo]] joined {{adv|Gold}}, and {{adv|Sapphire}} was given [[Toro]] before {{adv|Ruby}} picked [[Zuzu]]. However, in the latter's case, May actually does pick her starter before Brendan gets to start his journey.

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==Permission==
to add Kanoko Town as starting town?--[[User:Phantomjunkie|Phantom]][[User talk:Phantomjunkie|Junkie]] 15:04, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

== Speculation? ==

Has it been confirmed that he will get a gift from Professor Araragi, what if he gets it from his family? --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 12:08, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
:Actually, it's confirmed that the gift is from his family. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:28, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

== Default name? ==

I keep seeing his name being defaulted as Touya (ジュン), apparently from the Battle Subway as a tag-battle partner. Does anyone have any confirmation so we can move it or not? [[User:Pocketfanmk|Pocketfanmk]] 00:21, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:Protip: your Japanese says "Jun."
:His Pixiv tag is at "Touya," and White's is at "Touko," but I believe we're waiting until we can see it first-hand before moving. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 00:22, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

OOPS! I meant トウヤ! Wonder how that happened. But I just want someone to do that Battle Subway so we can get some kind of confirmation. [[User:Pocketfanmk|Pocketfanmk]] 00:30, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:Me too. My *ekhm* game crashes at Battle Subway. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 14:11, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Touya and Touko are added IN the articles, but the article is not moved itself. Is there any evidence? I'd kinda like the page to be moved if its confirmed, or to have the names taken out of the article, if not? [[User:Pocketfanmk|Pocketfanmk]] 04:35, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Ash's Oshawott

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{{AnimePokémonInfobox|
type1=Water|
trainername=Ash|
pokemonname=Mijumaru|
jtrainername=サトシ|
jpokemonname=ミジュマル|
tmtrainername=Satoshi|
tmpokemonname=Mijumaru|
image=[[File:Ash Mijumaru.png|250px]] |
caption=Ash's Mijumaru |
location=[[Isshu]] |
epnum=BW001 |
epname= |
catchepnum= BW003 |
catchepname= |
prevonum=500|
current=With {{Ash}}|
enva1=N/A|
java1=Misato Fukuen|
}}
'''Ash's Mijumaru''' (Japanese: '''サトシのミジュマル''' ''Satoshi's Mijumaru'') is the second Pokémon that {{Ash}} caught in the [[Isshu]] region.

==History==

Ash first met Mijumaru in Professor Araragi's laboratory in [[BW001]], under her ownership. It took an interest in Ash after he called it cute and began following him, watching from behind a tree when Ash was battling against [[Shooti]], then making sure he was okay after {{p|Zekrom}} restored {{AP|Pikachu}}'s electricity. It continued to follow him after he set out on his journey, mostly staying out of sight.

In [[BW002]], it reappeared after Ash's {{AP|Mamepato}} was defeated, rescuing Pikachu and {{TP|Iris|Kibago}} from Team Rocket by throwing its shell, popping [[Team Rocket]]'s balloon. Shortly afterward, Mijumaru used {{m|Water Gun}} on Jessie's {{TP|Jessie|Koromori}} saving Pikachu and Kibago again.

In [[BW003]], Mijumaru showed its interest in traveling with Ash and successfully convinced Ash to take it with him on his journey. When Ash tried to catch it with a [[Poké Ball]], it failed as it was still under [[Professor Araragi]]'s ownership. He immediately called Araragi and requested she send him Mijumaru's [[Poké Ball]]. Later on, Mijumaru helped Ash from a hot spring geyser by using {{m|Water Gun}}. Finally, Ash officially called it back to its Poké Ball in order to prevent it from falling into the hot water.

==Moves used==
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==Trivia==
*Mijumaru's capture was first revealed in a short preview aired after [[DP190]], featuring all the [[Starter Pokémon#Isshu|Isshu starters]].
*Similar to {{AP|Aipom}} and {{AP|Gible}}, it followed Ash behind his back and debuted few episodes earlier before its official capture.
*Mijumaru is the first Starter Pokémon that Ash has captured first in its region and isn't the region's Grass-type starter.
**It is also the first [[starter Pokémon]], other than {{AP|Pikachu}}, Ash has obtained that was previously owned by the [[Pokémon Professor|regional professor]].
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