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== SnooPING AS usual I see... ==

I have to give myself a PROMOTIONNN

Talk:Turnback Cave

2022-02-01T16:01:00Z

Pingas: /* Items in Platinum work differently */

After reading the article, I'm still not sure how this cave works.

Is it a set puzzle (ie. is there a specific order of directions to follow in order to reach Giratina in just three rooms), or is it totally random whether the next room will contain a pillar or not?

The answer should probably be worked into the article somehow. -[[User:Pat|Pat]] 15:32, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
:I also wondered this. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:20, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
::It's completely random. --[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 00:07, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

I also have a concern/question. You see, I reached Giratina in 6 rooms, and then caught it. When I went back to get the item, I found a reaper cloth which, according to the article, is the wrong item. [[User:Resolver13|Resolver13]] 06:55, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
:When you return, it's how many rooms it takes. So the number of rooms it took for Giratina is irrelevant. [[User:Gywall|'''Gywall''']]([[User_talk:Gywall|Talk]]) 09:50, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

== So is there any way to determine? ==

Or is it just pure dumb luck to get a Reaper Cloth? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:17, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
:Last I readit's random. Oh and btw; I made it through in only 4 rooms [[User:ShinyPikachu|§hin¥£iΨ@chµ]] 02:02, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
::Meaning you just missed the cloth. Damn. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:40, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
:::I walked into first pillar, then second, then third, then Giratina! Went north each room. Still probably random. '''[[User talk:Alexjj|Alex]]''' 16 April 2009 (UTC)
::::I walked north each time too, and reached there in 4 tries, I encountered a pillar in each room after the first room I walked into via the norther door from the entrance room. I went back and it happened again, only in THREE tries. [[User:Sorou|NEOgreenSOROU]] 23:29, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

== A Glich? ==

I was walking around Turnback Cave with a Max Repel and I had my Haunter lv57 as my first Pokémon for repeling any wild Pokémon but suddenly a wild Bronzong lv66 appeared. I managed to catch it and it is in my Pokémon Diamond now.
Can someone tell me, if this is a glich or is it normal for Bronzong lv66 to appear?
Thanks in advance! [[User:Becko|Becko]] 19:25, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
:I dont think so, repels only block a certain level from appearing, im not so sure with max repels though--[[User:David aipom|''デビッド Aipom '']] [[User talk:David aipom|(Speaks To Me):] 秘密の通信 ]] 19:26, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
::Quote from [[Repel]]: ''"A Repel is an item which lets the player walk a certain number of steps without encountering Pokémon with a lower level than the first member in the player's party."'' Since your Haunter was Lv57, and the Bronzong was Lv66, the Max Repel would have had no effect on it, but any Pokémon Lv56 and below wouldn't appear. - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] '''|''' 19:38, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
:::But was it normal that the wild Bronzong was at lv66? It's kind of unusual and on the article it says that Bronzong apears only at lv45, lv46. [[User:Becko|Becko]] 19:40, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
::::Yeah it's normal. The article is incomplete. The levels increase as you pass pillars. [[User:Gywall|'''Gywall''']]([[User_talk:Gywall|Talk]]) 19:41, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::Works for me! Thanks for the replys! [[User:Becko|Becko]] 19:46, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

== Items ==

For the items, are they always set for what you get after the first time, or will it change? I've always gotten a Rare Bone, but I haven't tried getting the Stardust yet, so I wouldn't know. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 17:44, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

== Location ==
We should state it in the article like we did for any other places. I don't know about it though. -[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 10:38, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

== I think I'm glitched ==
I put in the section that items can be received even with Giratina in the room, because in my Pokémon Diamond, I didn't catch Giratina and I can pick up items that are hidden behind him. But in my Pokémon Pearl, There is no item behind Giratina. I just found that out when I went to battle him in Pearl yesterday. So is it Pearl that's glitched or Diamond that's glitched?--[[User:Brats817|Brats817]] 21:01, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
:What? You can walk behind Giratina?--[[Flash Fire (ability)|freezing]][[Heat Wave (move)|COLD]] ([[user:Cold|page]], [[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 21:03, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
Yes, you actually can walk behind Giratina. In my Diamond. There is a hidden item there, but in my Pearl, there isn't one. I don't know what happened.--[[User:Brats817|Brats817]] 21:07, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
::What was the itwem?--[[Flash Fire (ability)|freezing]][[Heat Wave (move)|COLD]] ([[user:Cold|page]], [[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 21:08, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
The same as listed in the Turnback Cave section. Reaper Cloth in 3 rooms, 4 through 15 Rare Bone, and 16 to 30 Stardust.--[[User:Brats817|Brats817]] 21:10, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
:Please use the colons to indent your comments so that it gets less confusing. Anyways, so you tried this more than once?--[[Flash Fire (ability)|freezing]][[Heat Wave (move)|COLD]] ([[user:Cold|page]], [[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 21:13, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Yes. And I got an item every time in Diamond.--[[User:Brats817|Brats817]] 21:15, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
:I was wondering about that when you put it in, but decided not to take it out. I hadn't seen any item behind Giratina when I first caught him, and had to go back in to get one. And I have Pearl. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 21:35, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Well, I hope that this isn't a bad glitch in my game, because I left Giratina in his cave even after I had LONG beaten the Elite Four the first time. I'm able to get items that are behind Giratina in my Diamond version. I wonder if any other of these games have this glitch. I hope it has nothing to do with my Action Replay. I used it on my game a couple times, but only after I beat the game and I didn't use any cheat related to Turnback Cave whatsoever.--[[User:Brats817|Brats817]] 22:32, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
:Action Replays screw up your game, even if you don't realize it. Or even if you aren't doing anything at the time, but you still have some codes active. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 20:26, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

My Action Replay never seems to screw my game up. But it might have something to do with an item behind Giratina in my game. I don't use any advanced or dangerous cheats. I use only ones such as move modifiers to teach my Pokémon specific moves, or cheats to allow me to get event Pokemon. I can't normally get event only Pokémon from where I'm at. :(--[[User:Brats817|Brats817]] 21:05, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

:Where did you buy your Pearl? Sadly I had a Pearl but it was a fake, so I don't know much about the actual game. It froze when i was going to beat Cyrus. [[User:Sorou|NEOgreenSOROU]] 23:24, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

I bought my Pearl game at EB Games. My Diamond was given to me for my birthday so I didn't know where it came from. But I gotten Diamond before I got Pearl. --[[User:Brats817|Brats817]] 18:28, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

== Item ==

I just got the Rare Bone (playing Platinum) and the item stayed there as i picked it up (like, the pokeball sprite was there while it played the picking up item screen and music). I know this glitch had been mentioned before, but i think it should be in this article too under Trivia. Add? [[User:CherryParanoia|CherryParanoia]] 00:59, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
:Yes, it should be mentioned on this page. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:05, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

== Pokemon levels ==

They aren't 45-46 at max. I ran into and caught a level 65 bronzong there. It appears that the closer you get to Giranita's room, the higher the wild Pokemon. I wouldn't have noticed this myself unless I used a repel and my main Pokemon was level 63. I only found wild Pokemon when I was 2-3 doors away. (game: Diamond) -- [[User:Pokey|Pokey]] 07:32, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
:Copied from the footer of the wild Pokémon template: ''"Note: Listed levels are for Pokémon encountered before the first pillar. Levels of Pokémon encountered increase by 10 for every pillar that has been passed. Otherwise, encounter rate is the same."'' So after two pillars the max level would be 65-66. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 07:51, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
::Oh, sorry. Black font on purple background makes it hard to see. -- [[User:Pokey|Pokey]] 13:00, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

== Turnback Cemetary? ==
According to its Diamond/Pearl Pokédex entries, Giratina appears in an ancient cemetary. Could this imply that Turnback Cave is, or at least was used as a cemetary? [[User:Bowser The Second|Bowser The Second]] 09:29, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
:I would say trivia mention. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:14, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

== Image usage ==

Compare these images with Serebii's Pokéarth. There's some amazing similarity between them. Also, the dates of these images being uploaded are all after the EXIF date in Serebii's.--'''[[User:Immewnity|''immewnity'']][[User talk:Immewnity|the]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|mew]]''' 13:52, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

== Starpiece? ==

This could have been a mistake, but it says on this link: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Valuable_item#Star_Piece that you can can find a [[Star Piece]] in Turnback cave. ----[[User:NateVirus|NateVirus]]''([[User talk:NateVirus|Talk]]''|''[[Special:Contributions/NateVirus|Contributions]]'') 05:26, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
:[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Valuable_item&diff=1046928&oldid=1043313 Came from this edit]. My fault. It is not in Turnback Cave. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 14:36, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

==Inscription changes!==
Upon entering Turnback Cave for the first time in my Pearl, I read and wrote down the first inscription, which said, ''"...Past three pillars... to the sleeping... before 30 is surpassed..."'' '''NOT''' "''...Past three pillars...offer up... to the... ...before 30 is surpassed..."'' After I traversed the cave and battled Giratina, the inscription had changed to the second variation. Also, before battling Giratina, I was able to walk behind it but there was no item. —'''[[User:Team Magma Zangoose|Team Magma]] [[User talk:Team Magma Zangoose|Zangoose ⚡]]''' 02:25, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

== Items ==

I'm playing Pearl, and there are no items behind Giratina. [[User:RS89|RS89]] ([[User talk:RS89|talk]]) 19:31, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

== Unsubstantiated Info ==

Is there any proof at all of the "choose the door with the odd rock pattern" business? I've never seen any non-symmetrical patterns, and this sounds to me like a placebo, like the old "hit down + B when throwing a poke ball" business. Unsubstantiated info should be removed from the article. [[User:Xelrog T. Apocalypse|- Xelrog T. Apocalypse]] ([[User talk:Xelrog T. Apocalypse|talk]]) 03:06, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

== Wild Pokemon Encounters ==

Maybe im missing something, but im playing Pokemon Platinum and in the Pillar rooms there are 0 random encounters, contrary to what the article says. Also the article put after the Third Pillar some pokemons between 45-47 levels are found, but after the third pillar there is only the Giratina room that have 0 random encounters as well, so idk where did that info come from? <big> .Rawr! </big> ''([[User :.Rawr!|Talk]])'' 21:41, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
:Thanks for pointing this out. These additional tables do exist in the game data, but as far as I can tell they are unused. I've removed them from the page. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:38, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

== Items in Platinum work differently ==

First of all, the Reaper cloth don't appear in Platinum when you completed on only three rooms.
Second, Rare bone and stardust don't reappear if you went through 3 pillars again. They only appeared once, not repeatable. Otherwise, no item will appear on the last room.
I believe Rare bone (only one) will appear if you went through 3-15 rooms while Stardust (only one) will appear if you went through 16-30 rooms.

Talk:Turnback Cave

2022-02-01T16:00:34Z

Pingas: /* Items in Platinum work differently */ new section

After reading the article, I'm still not sure how this cave works.

Is it a set puzzle (ie. is there a specific order of directions to follow in order to reach Giratina in just three rooms), or is it totally random whether the next room will contain a pillar or not?

The answer should probably be worked into the article somehow. -[[User:Pat|Pat]] 15:32, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
:I also wondered this. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:20, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
::It's completely random. --[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 00:07, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

I also have a concern/question. You see, I reached Giratina in 6 rooms, and then caught it. When I went back to get the item, I found a reaper cloth which, according to the article, is the wrong item. [[User:Resolver13|Resolver13]] 06:55, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
:When you return, it's how many rooms it takes. So the number of rooms it took for Giratina is irrelevant. [[User:Gywall|'''Gywall''']]([[User_talk:Gywall|Talk]]) 09:50, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

== So is there any way to determine? ==

Or is it just pure dumb luck to get a Reaper Cloth? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:17, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
:Last I readit's random. Oh and btw; I made it through in only 4 rooms [[User:ShinyPikachu|§hin¥£iΨ@chµ]] 02:02, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
::Meaning you just missed the cloth. Damn. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:40, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
:::I walked into first pillar, then second, then third, then Giratina! Went north each room. Still probably random. '''[[User talk:Alexjj|Alex]]''' 16 April 2009 (UTC)
::::I walked north each time too, and reached there in 4 tries, I encountered a pillar in each room after the first room I walked into via the norther door from the entrance room. I went back and it happened again, only in THREE tries. [[User:Sorou|NEOgreenSOROU]] 23:29, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

== A Glich? ==

I was walking around Turnback Cave with a Max Repel and I had my Haunter lv57 as my first Pokémon for repeling any wild Pokémon but suddenly a wild Bronzong lv66 appeared. I managed to catch it and it is in my Pokémon Diamond now.
Can someone tell me, if this is a glich or is it normal for Bronzong lv66 to appear?
Thanks in advance! [[User:Becko|Becko]] 19:25, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
:I dont think so, repels only block a certain level from appearing, im not so sure with max repels though--[[User:David aipom|''デビッド Aipom '']] [[User talk:David aipom|(Speaks To Me):] 秘密の通信 ]] 19:26, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
::Quote from [[Repel]]: ''"A Repel is an item which lets the player walk a certain number of steps without encountering Pokémon with a lower level than the first member in the player's party."'' Since your Haunter was Lv57, and the Bronzong was Lv66, the Max Repel would have had no effect on it, but any Pokémon Lv56 and below wouldn't appear. - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] '''|''' 19:38, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
:::But was it normal that the wild Bronzong was at lv66? It's kind of unusual and on the article it says that Bronzong apears only at lv45, lv46. [[User:Becko|Becko]] 19:40, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
::::Yeah it's normal. The article is incomplete. The levels increase as you pass pillars. [[User:Gywall|'''Gywall''']]([[User_talk:Gywall|Talk]]) 19:41, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::Works for me! Thanks for the replys! [[User:Becko|Becko]] 19:46, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

== Items ==

For the items, are they always set for what you get after the first time, or will it change? I've always gotten a Rare Bone, but I haven't tried getting the Stardust yet, so I wouldn't know. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 17:44, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

== Location ==
We should state it in the article like we did for any other places. I don't know about it though. -[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 10:38, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

== I think I'm glitched ==
I put in the section that items can be received even with Giratina in the room, because in my Pokémon Diamond, I didn't catch Giratina and I can pick up items that are hidden behind him. But in my Pokémon Pearl, There is no item behind Giratina. I just found that out when I went to battle him in Pearl yesterday. So is it Pearl that's glitched or Diamond that's glitched?--[[User:Brats817|Brats817]] 21:01, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
:What? You can walk behind Giratina?--[[Flash Fire (ability)|freezing]][[Heat Wave (move)|COLD]] ([[user:Cold|page]], [[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 21:03, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
Yes, you actually can walk behind Giratina. In my Diamond. There is a hidden item there, but in my Pearl, there isn't one. I don't know what happened.--[[User:Brats817|Brats817]] 21:07, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
::What was the itwem?--[[Flash Fire (ability)|freezing]][[Heat Wave (move)|COLD]] ([[user:Cold|page]], [[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 21:08, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
The same as listed in the Turnback Cave section. Reaper Cloth in 3 rooms, 4 through 15 Rare Bone, and 16 to 30 Stardust.--[[User:Brats817|Brats817]] 21:10, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
:Please use the colons to indent your comments so that it gets less confusing. Anyways, so you tried this more than once?--[[Flash Fire (ability)|freezing]][[Heat Wave (move)|COLD]] ([[user:Cold|page]], [[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 21:13, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Yes. And I got an item every time in Diamond.--[[User:Brats817|Brats817]] 21:15, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
:I was wondering about that when you put it in, but decided not to take it out. I hadn't seen any item behind Giratina when I first caught him, and had to go back in to get one. And I have Pearl. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 21:35, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Well, I hope that this isn't a bad glitch in my game, because I left Giratina in his cave even after I had LONG beaten the Elite Four the first time. I'm able to get items that are behind Giratina in my Diamond version. I wonder if any other of these games have this glitch. I hope it has nothing to do with my Action Replay. I used it on my game a couple times, but only after I beat the game and I didn't use any cheat related to Turnback Cave whatsoever.--[[User:Brats817|Brats817]] 22:32, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
:Action Replays screw up your game, even if you don't realize it. Or even if you aren't doing anything at the time, but you still have some codes active. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 20:26, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

My Action Replay never seems to screw my game up. But it might have something to do with an item behind Giratina in my game. I don't use any advanced or dangerous cheats. I use only ones such as move modifiers to teach my Pokémon specific moves, or cheats to allow me to get event Pokemon. I can't normally get event only Pokémon from where I'm at. :(--[[User:Brats817|Brats817]] 21:05, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

:Where did you buy your Pearl? Sadly I had a Pearl but it was a fake, so I don't know much about the actual game. It froze when i was going to beat Cyrus. [[User:Sorou|NEOgreenSOROU]] 23:24, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

I bought my Pearl game at EB Games. My Diamond was given to me for my birthday so I didn't know where it came from. But I gotten Diamond before I got Pearl. --[[User:Brats817|Brats817]] 18:28, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

== Item ==

I just got the Rare Bone (playing Platinum) and the item stayed there as i picked it up (like, the pokeball sprite was there while it played the picking up item screen and music). I know this glitch had been mentioned before, but i think it should be in this article too under Trivia. Add? [[User:CherryParanoia|CherryParanoia]] 00:59, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
:Yes, it should be mentioned on this page. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:05, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

== Pokemon levels ==

They aren't 45-46 at max. I ran into and caught a level 65 bronzong there. It appears that the closer you get to Giranita's room, the higher the wild Pokemon. I wouldn't have noticed this myself unless I used a repel and my main Pokemon was level 63. I only found wild Pokemon when I was 2-3 doors away. (game: Diamond) -- [[User:Pokey|Pokey]] 07:32, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
:Copied from the footer of the wild Pokémon template: ''"Note: Listed levels are for Pokémon encountered before the first pillar. Levels of Pokémon encountered increase by 10 for every pillar that has been passed. Otherwise, encounter rate is the same."'' So after two pillars the max level would be 65-66. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 07:51, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
::Oh, sorry. Black font on purple background makes it hard to see. -- [[User:Pokey|Pokey]] 13:00, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

== Turnback Cemetary? ==
According to its Diamond/Pearl Pokédex entries, Giratina appears in an ancient cemetary. Could this imply that Turnback Cave is, or at least was used as a cemetary? [[User:Bowser The Second|Bowser The Second]] 09:29, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
:I would say trivia mention. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:14, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

== Image usage ==

Compare these images with Serebii's Pokéarth. There's some amazing similarity between them. Also, the dates of these images being uploaded are all after the EXIF date in Serebii's.--'''[[User:Immewnity|''immewnity'']][[User talk:Immewnity|the]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|mew]]''' 13:52, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

== Starpiece? ==

This could have been a mistake, but it says on this link: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Valuable_item#Star_Piece that you can can find a [[Star Piece]] in Turnback cave. ----[[User:NateVirus|NateVirus]]''([[User talk:NateVirus|Talk]]''|''[[Special:Contributions/NateVirus|Contributions]]'') 05:26, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
:[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Valuable_item&diff=1046928&oldid=1043313 Came from this edit]. My fault. It is not in Turnback Cave. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 14:36, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

==Inscription changes!==
Upon entering Turnback Cave for the first time in my Pearl, I read and wrote down the first inscription, which said, ''"...Past three pillars... to the sleeping... before 30 is surpassed..."'' '''NOT''' "''...Past three pillars...offer up... to the... ...before 30 is surpassed..."'' After I traversed the cave and battled Giratina, the inscription had changed to the second variation. Also, before battling Giratina, I was able to walk behind it but there was no item. —'''[[User:Team Magma Zangoose|Team Magma]] [[User talk:Team Magma Zangoose|Zangoose ⚡]]''' 02:25, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

== Items ==

I'm playing Pearl, and there are no items behind Giratina. [[User:RS89|RS89]] ([[User talk:RS89|talk]]) 19:31, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

== Unsubstantiated Info ==

Is there any proof at all of the "choose the door with the odd rock pattern" business? I've never seen any non-symmetrical patterns, and this sounds to me like a placebo, like the old "hit down + B when throwing a poke ball" business. Unsubstantiated info should be removed from the article. [[User:Xelrog T. Apocalypse|- Xelrog T. Apocalypse]] ([[User talk:Xelrog T. Apocalypse|talk]]) 03:06, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

== Wild Pokemon Encounters ==

Maybe im missing something, but im playing Pokemon Platinum and in the Pillar rooms there are 0 random encounters, contrary to what the article says. Also the article put after the Third Pillar some pokemons between 45-47 levels are found, but after the third pillar there is only the Giratina room that have 0 random encounters as well, so idk where did that info come from? <big> .Rawr! </big> ''([[User :.Rawr!|Talk]])'' 21:41, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
:Thanks for pointing this out. These additional tables do exist in the game data, but as far as I can tell they are unused. I've removed them from the page. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:38, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

== Items in Platinum work differently ==

First of all, the Reaper cloth don't appear in Platinum when you completed on only three rooms.
Second, Rare bone and stardust don't reappear if you went through 3 pillars again. They only appeared once, not repeatable. Otherwise, nothing will appear on the last room.
I believe Rare bone (only one) will appear if you went through 3-15 rooms while Stardust (only one) will appear if you went through 16-30 rooms.

Talk:Celebi (Pokémon)

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==Celi Bee==
When did this disco artist appear and how likely is it that Game Freak knew of them? --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 17:19, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
:Yea, let's get rid of that. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 11:43, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
::It looks like Celebi is just based on a generic disco stereotype. Look at this, and compare it to the light and dark green patterns on Celebi:
http://www.patriciafield.com/ProductImages/womenswear_merch/hofshinedress_large.jpg
::(Note that that was the only image I could find that showed a front and a back.) Actually, on that note, should there be a mention of it resembling a "disco" stereotype in general?--[[User:Celebi96|Celebi96]] 21:35, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Because sleveless dresses have no place in contemporary human culture outside of disco. --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 01:21, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
:I expect there is no way that they would design or name another Pokémon after a real living person after the [[Yungerer|Yungeller]] fiasco. --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 01:21, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
::I couldn't think of a better way to describe it, okay? I was actually thinking of Miror B. when I posted that, Celebi has arms that look like his wide sleeves. (Yes, I know this is old.)--[[User:Celebi96|Celebi96]] 23:58, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

== Quick Question, TCG ==

I have a Celebi card and I want to add the info in it's own article. I'm slightly new here so I don't know much about creating TCG articles. What's confusing me though is the broken link on this page. When I go about creating the page should I make a sort of disambiguation page in case that there is more than 1 type of Celebi card? Or should I just make the page go right to a single card? I may not have phrased that right but hopefully somebody understands what I'm tying to ask. Help please. [[User:Zabbethx|Zabbethx]] 13:28, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

:The chances are your Celebi card already has its own article here, as we have articles on every English language Pokémon card in existence. A list of all Celebi cards can be found {{TCG|Celebi|here}}, and your card is very likely to be there. [[User:Cipher|Cipher]] 19:08, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

== Artwork ==

Can we use side-game artworks here, like Ranger? *[[User:Tc26|tc]][[User talk:Tc26|26]]* 07:41, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
:Why are we using this and not it's Official Art? -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 20:40, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
::Something about most recent artwork being preferred.--The [[Delibird (Pokémon)|Kk]][[Stantler (Pokémon)|ll]][[Santa Claus|nn]][[User:Kkllnn|ator]] [[User Talk:Kkllnn| サンタクロース]] 20:41, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
:::That ''is'' official art. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 20:44, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
::::Official as in this: [[image:251Celebi.png|200px]] Not side art. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 20:47, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::From what I've heard, it is ''official'' art done by an ''official'' artist just for a side game.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 21:41, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::All artwork released by Nintendo is, by definition, official. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 14:42, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::::While this is true, I am talking about using art from the main series, not a side-game. It's inconsistent. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 14:58, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
:In what way is the artwork inconsistent? [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 15:01, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
::You're honestly asking? Some Pokémon use their art from the main series while others use their art from a side game? It very inconsistent. That's why we have the "Artwork on Bulbagarden Archives" link in the infobox. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 15:48, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
:::It almost looks less consistent to have this old artwork where all the newer artwork is on other pages. I think the page on [[GSDS]] mentions it.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 15:52, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
::::It's all Sugimori art. It's the same style. The Ranger art is in a different style and when compared to other art, the differences are quite existent. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 15:56, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

:::::And the Ranger artwork is more recent than the G/S/C artwork. [[Santa Claus|♥]][[User:Chocolate|Chocolate]] ([[wp:Christmas|Merry Christmas!]]) 16:01 12/21/2008

::::::That doesn't matter. There is no rule anywhere saying that we have to use the most recent artwork. The official artwork beats any other artwork out there. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 16:03, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::::What about using Art from the anime? I mean in the cases of Pokémon from Johto. They are drawn by Ken Sugimori too. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 16:35, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

I agree with Fabu-Vinny. All artwork from Nintendo is official. Nintendo owns the copyrights and the franchise. The artist doesn’t. What’s inconsistent? Not using the same style as the character was originally drawn in from their first appearance, or not using the same artwork from one artist only? What it comes down to is you are splitting hairs. Any artwork officially recognized by Nintendo is acceptable. From a regular person’s point of view any good artwork would be acceptable, but it is a good policy to stay on Nintendo’s good side and use only official images. [[User:White Phoenix|White Phoenix]] 07:27, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

== Avalibility ==

I keep hearing that you can get every Pokémon on to Diamond/Pearl except Celebi, but the article says that PKMN Colosseum's Japanese bonus disk allows you to get it, why do I keep seeing that? [[User:GuyNamedSean|GuyNamedSean]] 10:13, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
:Because it's true. Japanese fans were able to transfer Celebi onto their GenIII games, and then to DP through Pal Park. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 10:31, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

== Shining Celebi? ==

Can you even have a Shining Celebi? Cause I don't think you can catch it in Gen 3 or 4 games (eliminating the 1/8,192 chance or whatever..). And all event Celebi have been non-shiny. Right? So how did my friend get a shiny Celebi? Was there a shiny event Celebi? [[User:Sivart345|Sivart345]] 17:06, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
:It's a hack. While it is possible to get a shiny one from the Japanese bonus disc, it is so unlikely that your friend got the disc, the memory card and the shiny that you can count on the fact that it is a hack.--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[Quilava (Pokémon)|Racer''']] [[User talk:RexRacer|'''''-talk''''']] 17:11, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
: Thanks but one more question; which event Celebi was it (just wondering), I mean the year? [[User:Sivart345|Sivart345]] 20:41, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
:::I went at looked at the event Celebi and found 4, [[List_of_Nintendo_event_Pok%C3%A9mon_in_2003#Ageto_Celebi|Ageto Celebi (Bonus Disc)]]/[[Pok%C3%A9mon_Colosseum#Ageto_Celebi|Ageto Celebi (Colosseum link, bonus disc)]], [[List_of_Nintendo_event_Pok%C3%A9mon_in_2006#Pok.C3.A9Park_Celebi|PokéPark Celebi]], [[List_of_Nintendo_event_Pok%C3%A9mon_in_2006#Mitsurin_Celebi|Mitsurin Celebi]], and [[List_of_10th_Anniversary_event_Pok%C3%A9mon#Celebi_and_Charizard|10 ANNIV Celebi]]. All are non-shining. So doesn't that make Celebi the only Pokémon that ''cannot'' be a '''legit''' shiny? Cause I thought that event Pokémon only come non-shiny unless specified and that the 1/8192 chance refers to Pokémon in the wild?Sivart345 ([[User:Sivart345|user]] · [[User talk:Sivart345|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Sivart345|contrib]]) 23:49, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
::::I also found that no Jirachi have ever been shiny. So 2 Pokémon cannot be shiny; Celebi (see links) and Jirachi (check all the event Jirachi)Sivart345 ([[User:Sivart345|user]] · [[User talk:Sivart345|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Sivart345|contrib]]) 16:26, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::Can be, just can't legitimately be at this point in time. Soft resetting in DPPt (and likely HGSS too) will allow a Mystery Gifted Celebi to be shiny. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:06, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

If the sprites are in the game, the shiny form exists. Therefore, there are shiny celebis and jirachis. They just have not been able to be legitimately caught yet. Except in the very rare cases of the Japanese bonus discs, but that does prove it is possible no matter how unlikely. [[User:White Phoenix|White Phoenix]] 07:33, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

== How is this relevant? ==

"Celebi is the mascot of Serebii.net."

Is stating mascots for website necessary?

Forgot to sign [[user:riggins]]

:Trivia is never necessary. :p But it's there just the same. BTW, when signing, write this: <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 09:25, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

::True, True but it just stick out at the top being one line. It seems even less useful then most because it's so painfully ovisous. [[User:riggins|Riggy(>0.0)>]]
:::Well we have this on {{p|Bulbasaur}}:
"Bulbasaur is the mascot of Bulbasaur's Mysterious Garden."
I know it's us but still.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 22:11, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

:::Ya I just noticed and I have to agree. I still stand by my feelings that it's really not relevant BUT since it protain to us I'm afraid to challenge it. I have to say if the admins say it stays then does that mean we have to name the mascot of every fan site? It seems pretty silly seeing as there must be thousands of fan site and it does not make sense at all. Just because we and serebii are at the top doesn't mean we should get special treatment.--[[User:Riggins|Riggy(>0.0)>]] 02:07, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
::::We have certain criteria for what fansites get real mention such as their own page (see here: [[Bulbapedia:Project Fandom]]), theoretically, similar criteria could be used for their mascots. For example, any fansite with an article could have their mascot mentionned.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 02:24, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

:::::Well ok but my point is why even point it out in the first place? If your a avid pokemon fan then your already familiar with most of the top pokemon sites. Also it is still very ovisous in it's like saying did you know that pikachu is the mascot to pokemon. If we give fansite trivia then how is it different from adding any thing that's not directly related the pokemon?--[[User:Riggins|Riggy(>0.0)>]] 02:42, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
::::::Third line of {{p|Pikachu}}:
"Pikachu is popularly known as the mascot of the Pokémon franchise."--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 02:54, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

:::::
I'm refering to triva not the whole page

Yes but what I mean is avid pokemon fan go to the top fan sites regularly and will already know about there mascot and any one who would not know would most likely not be a person who cares or is a serous fan. If you don't know about serebii then your not a serous fan because the site is made for up to date news and in depth info about pokemon for people who care about that kind of stuff.

Also if they have there own article then why not have it in it's respective article as it's own trivia instead of in a pokemon article were it's irrelevant to the pokemon's info?--[[User:Riggins|Riggy(>0.0)>]] 03:23, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
:It is relevant to the Pokemon though. Out of 492 others, that one has been chosen. And I get the picture that you are insinuating we do not have articles or include any information about things that are common knowledge to fanboys. This is absolutely not the case. We strive for completeness, and — as much as the trom hates the almost compulsory trivia sections — this little fact is quite good. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 05:04, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Actually, there were only 251 Pokémon when Celebi was chosen as the mascot. I think it's still worth keeping, but I've moved it to the bottom of the Trivia because it's the least important. The same goes for the "Mudkipz" stuff in Mudkip's Trivia. [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 09:52, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

== Add to the main page ==

For some reason, I am unable to edit any Pokémon pages, so can someone please change this, "Celebi is a green fairy-like creature. Celebi has round, toe-less feet, three-fingered hands and clear wings on its back. Celebi has a round head that comes to a point and sticks upward in the back, large baby-blue eyes with black rings around them and a pair of green antennae that are tipped blue." It should be, "Celebi is a green fairy-like creature. Celebi has round, toe-less feet; three-fingered hands; and clear wings on its back. Celebi has a round head that comes to a point and sticks upward in the back, large baby-blue eyes with black rings around them, and a pair of green antennae that are tipped blue." forgot to sign[[User:23-03-33|Tom]] 01:28, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
:I think it'll flow better if the comma after "round" is deleted and the other commas in that sentence remain commas. I'll change it, and if someone doesn't like it they can just add semicolons.--[[User:Celebi96|Celebi96]] 22:56, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

== Um... regarding the Name Origin... ==

It's getting a bit out of hand, to say the least. I didn't just go ahead and do it for fear of starting an edit war, but can we ''please'' get rid of the Celi Bee nonsense? It's completely irrelevant. I think maybe we could change Celebi's Name Origin section to say something like this:

"There are many possibilities as to where Celebi's name originated, but it is most likely taken from [insert most likely name origins for Celebi here]."

Does anyone have any other suggestions? [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 21:46, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

== Game Location ==

I have a Monster Brain which shows the GS Ball in Crystal (English version). I have tried that and the Teru-sama in the corresponding slot of Gold (English version) and neither work. Wikipedia has stated that the GS Ball will ''never'' work in the English version of Crystal because the routines required for the event were left out of all non-Japanese language versions. Unfortunately, they have watered-down their Pokémon entries so much they now only state that it cannot be caught, but not why. I have just confirmed this one last time. Mention has been made in other articles that hackers have successfully caught a celebi in this manner. What do the hackers hack? ROMs? If it only works in ROMs, say so. I don’t think ROM hacks are supposed to count on Bulbapedia anyway, are they? [[User:White Phoenix|White Phoenix]] 07:44, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

== Protect the Celebi!!! ==

Why is this page protected now? Is it because of the Celi Bee dispute? --[[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon777''''']] '' 12:13, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
:No, it is because of the iPhone application. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 12:14, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
::All Pokémon pages are being protected right now due to this {{tt|iPhone application|This is why all Apple products suck.}}. Minor edit will be made and the Pokémon pages will be back shortly.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 13:40, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

== Only Shiny Pokemon in Handheld PMD Games ==

Should it be noted that Celebi is the only Shiny pokemon on the handheld PMD games? [[User:Giralga|Giralga]] 03:17, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
I think so, but wait until someone else says too... [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 16:28, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
No, it is. I've played both games and I only found 2 shinys. a golbat and a celebi. And it was THAT celebi. So it is the only plot specific one. [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 17:13, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
I know this is old, but...YOU FOUND A SHINY IN MYSTERY DUNGEON?????? Please give more details. I didn't think that was possible. [[User:Flyingtypefan|Flyingtypefan]] 22:13, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

== HG/SS event? ==

any ideas when the event will happen...? hopefully they'll do it on american wi-fi. cause I want to ligitmately trigger and fight the secret Geovanni boss. {{unsigned|CloudHiro}}
:No idea. We'll Bulbanews it when we know. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 06:35, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

== Celebi is a Pokemon that makes nature a theme. ==

Testimony by developer. http://www.gamefreak.co.jp/blog/dir/ (2010/7/12)　[[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 09:48, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

== External link? ==

Why is that there, and since when do we link to videos of hacking to find Pokémon? Is it okay to remove it? ~~ '''[[User:Scyther Be Awesome|Scyther Be Awesome!]] [[User talk:Scyther Be Awesome|Bother me here.]]''' 02:26, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
:That shouldn't be there. Removed. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 08:23, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

== Trivia. Influence of Shintoism. ==

nature worship might be influenced from Shintoism. Ilex Forest shrine is remarkably like to the Shinto shrine.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/03/Plan_of_Shinto_Shrine.jpg
[[Ilex Forest shrine]]

[[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 02:46, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:That belongs on the Ilex Forest shrine page, not here (and you have already put it there). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 08:28, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

::Thank you for correcting my Poor English.
::Celebi is a living thing that makes nature a theme. Shintoism is related to nature worship. The place where Celebi exists is similar to the Shinto shrine.
::I want to point out the possibility in which Shintoism influences it. When the protection of this page is released, I describe to trivia.[[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 10:27, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
::「Celebi might be related to nature worship of Shintoism.」I will reflect this sentence in the origin. [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 11:01, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:::Yes, I think that sounds good. Now we have to wait for an admin to add it (or for 1 day, as that is when the lock will expire). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:46, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:::: Thank you for explaining. [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 12:21, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

== Trivia ==

Celebi learns a move every nine levels after level 10, is this notable. A common occurance among many legendaries {{unsigned|Stephen Keane}}

== Please Explain? ==

I just saw this

"Celebi is the last Pokémon in the Johto Pokédex and Hoenn Pokédex, although in the latter, Celebi is not shown."

what is the point of the hoenn part? lol
it is the last and isn't shown? {{unsigned|Water type Master}}
:All Pokémon in Generation III have a Hoenn Pokédex number, but they are not shown in the Pokédex. If the game is modified so that you can catch Celebi before obtaining the national dex, or if one is received via an event, then it will display a Hoenn Pokédex number. That is what these are. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 10:02, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

== Proposed edit? ==

Can I mention in its opening paragraph at the top of the page "Celebi is widely regarded as the rarest Pokémon of all time, due to the fact not many events and giveaways have been held for it, and [rarely/never] outside Japan" or something?? I think it'd be appropriate, but maybe it's not necessary? [[User:Bttsstewart|Bttsstewart]] 14:19, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
:That would definitely not go in the opening paragraph. Maybe in the trivia, but even then... --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 07:07, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

== Why wouldn't it be notable? ==

Had a recent edit to the trivia undone. I put that Celebi was the first Pokémon to manipulate time, the second being Dialga, but Celebi can only travel through time, not control it. This power belongs to Dialga. If this isn't worth noting, then should the same trivia that was listed in Dialga's trivia should be removed too? Because Celebi was the FIRST Pokémon to have something to do with time so to think that trivia would've been listed in Celebi's trivia too. Several other pages that are related have the same thing listed in their trivia as well. Such as the Latios and Lucario being first and second Pokémon respectively to die in the movies. Explain why worth not noting Celebi being the first to manipulate time (but only travels through it), second being Dialga? (Who controls time) This info is true and not speculation after all. --[[User:Brats817|Brats817]] 23:51, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

I see someone removed the one in the Dialga trivia too. The thing that said "Dialga was the second Pokémon to manipulate time, first being Celebi" thing. So I guess it wasn't notable in the first place. I would've thought it was notable, but meh. --[[User:Brats817|Brats817]] 23:00, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
:I'm going to say that that trivia is not notable. While it is true, it is something which most people would already know and just seems to be trying to fill up the trivia section. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 05:17, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

== Guardian Signs doesn't think Celebi is a legendary. ==

http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/7093/immagine4e.png
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/2469/immagine3u.png
It's the same with all of the other legendary Pokémon: "Legendary Pokémon [bl] attacked!". Discuss.
[[User:Shepeedy|Shepeedy]] 15:36, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
:It is a bit of an oddity, but it's no reason to change the page. After all, other sources have repeatedly treated Celebi as a legendary. Perhaps it could be noted as trivia? --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 16:54, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
::Also, what about Japanese version? Maybe it's the matter of Densetsu/Maboroshi? --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 16:59, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
:::Feh, it's a side game anyway [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 17:31, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
::::It sounds utterly stupid to consider a Pokémon who appears at the ''very end'' of a regional Pokédex non-Legendary.
::The only interesting post is Maxim's one, so I'll only reply to him/her: I cannot read japanese, but here are the screens, maybe you'll figure out something: http://img574.imageshack.us/img574/5544/immagine1h.png http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/8496/immagine2mp.png [[User:Shepeedy|Shepeedy]] 19:39, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
:::Raikou's says Densetsu(legendary) and Celebi says Mahoroshi(rare?) so it's the same [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 19:46, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
::::I think it should be mentioned as trivia ethier on Celebi's page or the Pokemon Ranger Gaurdian Signs page. [[User:Pokemaster97|Pokemaster97]] 20:00, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
::::Perhaps something should be noted on the Legendary Pokémon page that GS translates maboroshi as Rare, instead of mirage like it says in GenIV? [[User:Bluesun|Bluesun]] 20:09, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
:::::Yep, Celebi is called a Maboroshi ("Phantom") Pokémon and Raikou is Densetsu (Legendary). Those are two different terms for Legendaries in Japanese versions (which exists since ever, in the anime too), with Densetsu referring to the lower-class legendaries (like the Trios), although I'm not sure about precise definition. English version has never distinguished those two terms before, they just called all Legendaries "Legendary Pokemon". So, this is the first time when such distinction appears in English version. Can someone make a list which Pokemon are described as "Rare" and which ones are "Legendary" in Ranger 3? That would prove helpful. Also, I'm a he, Sharpeedy. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 20:45, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
::::::Lol, it looks like you made a fusion with my nickname and Sharpedo XD Btw, I haven't encountered all of the legendary Pokémon in Ranger 3 (I suppose there are a few others, such as Arceus and Lugia), but for now I can say that the following are Legendaries: Raikou, Entei, Suicune, Latios, Latias, Zapdos, Articuno, Moltres, Ho-Oh. The only Rare one is Celebi, and there are also Mewtwo and Regigigas which are owned by the evil team, and don't display that Legendary/Rare thing (so we can't say anything about them, almost until I unlock the rebattle feature, when perhaps they will no longer belong to the evil team). When I have other info, I'll post it here, but if there is someone who's willing to help, he's welcome :D [[User:Shepeedy|Shepeedy]] 21:09, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Ok, I unlocked that feature and battled Regigigas and Mewtwo, that are both Legendary. Two days ago I forgot to mention that there are also some special missions with Deoxys, Shaymin, Giratina, Arceus and Heatran, but here in Italy only the first one is already downloadable, and I cannot do it because it's multiplayer only... when the others come out I'll post here. [[User:Shepeedy|Shepeedy]] 11:48, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Phione is neither Legendary nor Rare, so we can say for sure that it's not a legendary Pokémon [[User:Shepeedy|Shepeedy]] 15:30, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::That is opinion. There is no proof that it is a legendary or not. Besides, Celebi is a CONFIRMED legend. - [[User:050294|050294]] 15:37, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::I think he meant that Phione appears in GS, with no "Legendary" or "Rare" title, and if so wouldn't be opinion as it would be straight from the game. [[User:Bluesun|Bluesun]] 16:40, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::::@050294: It's as Bluesun says: in Guardian Signs, Phione is encountered in the wild just like any other common Pokémon, in fact it says it is a normal Pokémon, neither Legendary nor Rare. It is the final proof of the fact it is not a legendary Pokémon. [[User:Shepeedy|Shepeedy]] 12:37, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::::So, we finally have conclusive proof. Phione is not a legendary, as I've been saying all along. Would anyone mind if I went ahead and edited the article accordingly? - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 13:27, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
I think that you should. Now it's 2 to 1: Pokémon.com mailbag which has been removed in the update VS HGSS official guide and GS. Make sure that you mention Pokémon.com incorrectly listing it as legendary. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:54, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
:Will do. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 15:38, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
::Shaymin is Rare [[User:Shepeedy|Shepeedy]] 17:25, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
::: Lugia, Dialga, Palkia and Giratina are Legendary, Arceus is Rare, so this seems to confirm that event Pokémon are Rare, while the others are Legendary; about Deoxys and also Mew, we can't say for sure if they are Rare, because the game doesn't say anything, since they are found only in the past missions. [[User:Shepeedy|Shepeedy]] 13:16, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

== Yet another proposed Edit: ==

In Game Locations for Crystal, shouldn't there be a footnote stating that the method listed only works in Japanese versions?
Wouldn't that be need-to-know information?
[[User:Bejoe95|Bejoe95]] 18:16, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

== Reply to Name Origin ==

In my experience with the Japanese Language(orally), "Serubi" 'should' sound like Seravee, which I believe is actually one of the name's of the Angels of the Angel Caste System in Christianity/Celestial Being. The name Seravee and Cerubi are similar in pronounciation. I say this because the correct spelling in Japanese of "Celebi" is "Serubi". This is because the "R" is replaced with "L" and the "V" in English is replaced with "B" in the Japanese when speaking foreign names. Like Seravee, Celebi protects and acts as a guardian of the "Holy" grounds of the forest/garden. I'm saying this is probably The most possible answer to the Origin of Celebi's Name. Not serenity or Celery + bii/beautiful. Take Gardevoir for example, its name is Sir Knight but the spelling is a bit off. Usually the Japanese names and the way they are spelled reflect what they are supposed to sound in English. For example, Piplup's name is Pochama. "B's and "P's" is replaced to reflect Bochama, which is a term that is used with Nobility, such as a Prince or a young male master of the house (or mansion). This reflects it's personality in the anime of being a young arrogant spoiled prince as the Pipulop evolves into an "Emperor" Penguin. Why did Pochama translate into Piplup I have absolutely no idea.....

posted by user: drakke125 {{unsigned|Drakke125}}

:The only result for "Seravee" on Wikipedia is {{wp|List of Mobile Suit Gundam 00 mobile weapons#Seravee Gundam|something from ''Mobile Suit Gundam 00''}}. Are you thinking of the {{wp|Seraphim}} or perhaps something on {{wp|Category:Individual angels|this list}}? —[[User:Minimiscience|Minimiscience]] 20:47, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

== Origin ==
Celebi looks more to based on Tinkerbell from Peter Pan rather that Dr. Suess' The Lorax. --[[User:PikachuMonster|PikachuMonster]] ([[User talk:PikachuMonster|talk]]) 02:37, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

== In the trivia section: ==

It says what "Celebi has the most weaknesses of any legendary Pokémon", but now Terrakion have 7 weaknesses as well, with the fairy introduction, so yeah change it :3 {{unsigned|.Rawr!}}
:Done. In the future, you can do this yourself; there's no need to request simple edits like this on the talk page — just major ones. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 07:04, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

== Onion ==

Species : Onion Fairy Pokemon