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DP111

2009-01-28T12:58:34Z

PhantomCX: Slight re-write

{{undubbed|577}}

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(Japanese: '''鋼鉄島の遺跡！''' ''The Ruins of {{tt|Steel Island|Iron Island}}!'') is the 111th episode of the {{series|Diamond & Pearl}}, and the 577th episode of the {{g|anime}}. It aired in Japan on January 22, 2009.
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==Synopsis==
Not able to control it's aura anymore, {{p|Lucario}} is trying to attack {{Ash}} and his {{ashfr|friends}}. [[Riley]] and Ash blocks it, but after getting shocked by {{AP|Pikachu}}'s {{m|Thunderbolt}}, Lucario runs away to the source of the waves, which is a machine that [[Team Galactic]] had made. Lucario faints after a battle with Mars, so Ash and friends go to help. While jumping over the hole, {{TP|Dawn|Piplup}} accidentally falls in, {{an|Dawn}} discovers this is the hole (where {{an|Jun}} and [[Team Rocket]] are). Dawn tries helping them up from the hole when a Steelix appears, making Dawn fall in as well, and attacks them. Riley goes back to help them, while Ash and [[Brock]] battle with [[Mars]]. Mars is defeated, but escapes with the machine's key & informs them that she has installed bombs all around the place, and will blow it up at any second, then gets off the island in a helicopter. Ash informs every one of this causing James to cry with {{TP|James|Mime Jr.}}. {{TP|James|Carnivine}} watches [[James]] crying and discovers it has learnt vine whip and uses its new found move to help everyone escape the hole. Riley says that he and Lucario would try something to disarm the bomb and tells the others to run as far as they can. When Riley and Lucario find the bombs, they tried to take it off, but can't. But they have another plan... Mars detonates the bombs but there is no explosion. Riley and Lucario had used aura to seal the explosion in it. They sent it in the sky, it is a happy ending....for the heroes and Team Rocket. A professor arrives and studies the stones Team Galactic had left.....
Meanwhile, Team Galactic are back at the headquarters starting another plan.

==Major events==
* [[James's Carnivine]] learns {{m|Vine Whip}}.
* [[Mars]] attempts to blow up [[Iron Island]] using bombs but is stopped by [[Riley]] and his {{p|Lucario}}.

===Debuts===
* [[Pluto]]

====Pokémon debuts====

==Characters==
===Humans===
* {{Ash}}
* {{an|Dawn}}
* [[Brock]]
* [[Jessie]]
* [[James]]
* {{an|Jun}}
* [[Riley]]
* [[Mars]]
* [[Cyrus]]
* [[Saturn]]
* [[Jupiter]]
* [[Pluto]]
* [[Reggie]]
* [[Yuzo]]
* [[Professor Rowan]]
* [[Professor Karashina]]
* [[Team Galactic]] [[Galactic Grunt|Grunt]]s
* [[Scientist]]s

===Pokémon===
* {{p|Pikachu}} ({{OP|Ash|Pikachu}})
* {{p|Meowth}} ({{TRM}})
* {{p|Wobbuffet}} ({{OP|Jessie|Wobbuffet}})
* {{p|Mime Jr.}} ({{OP|James|Mime Jr.}})
* {{p|Grotle}} ({{OP|Ash|Grotle}})
* {{p|Staravia}} ({{OP|Ash|Staravia}})
* {{p|Chimchar}} ({{OP|Ash|Chimchar}})
* {{p|Piplup}} ({{OP|Dawn|Piplup}})
* {{p|Sudowoodo}} ({{OP|Brock|Sudowoodo}})
* {{p|Croagunk}} ({{OP|Brock|Croagunk}})
* {{p|Seviper}} ({{OP|Jessie|Seviper}})
* {{p|Yanmega}} ({{OP|Jessie|Yanmega}})
* {{p|Carnivine}} ({{OP|James|Carnivine}})
* {{p|Lucario}} ([[Riley]]'s)
* {{p|Purugly}} ([[Mars]]'s)
* {{p|Empoleon}} ({{OP|Jun|Empoleon}})
* {{p|Magnemite}} (multiple)
* {{p|Magneton}} (multiple)
* {{p|Steelix}}
* {{p|Skarmory}} (multiple)
* {{p|Aggron}}
* {{p|Lairon}} (multiple)
* {{p|Aron}} (multiple)
* {{p|Geodude}} (multiple)
* {{p|Golbat}} ([[Team Galactic]]'s; multiple)
* {{p|Dialga}} (statue)
* {{p|Palkia}} (statue)
* {{p|Staraptor}} ([[Reggie]]'s)
* {{p|Kricketot}}
* {{p|Bidoof}}

==Trivia==
* Music from ''[[Lucario and the Mystery of Mew]]'' is used as background music.
* [[Professor Oak's lecture|Professor Oak's Pokémon lecture]]: {{p|Skarmory}}
* The way {{TP|James|Carnivine}} learned Vine Whip is quite similar to how {{TP|Jessie|Arbok}} and {{TP|James|Weezing}} evolved.
* This episode marks the first time in the anime that one of Team Rocket's Pokémon is seen learning a new move.
* This is the first time since Ash's battle with [[Maylene]] that Staravia has used {{m|Brave Bird}}.

===Errors===
===Dub edits===

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User talk:SharKing

2009-01-28T12:37:30Z

PhantomCX:

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Thank you, and have a good time editing here! --tc26 13:49, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

== Pardon, but... ==

Use the {{cat|link templates}}, don't say <code><nowiki>[[Sand-Attack (move)|Sand Attack]]</nowiki></code>, just use <code><nowiki>{{m|Sand Attack}}</nowiki></code>. It's less of a pain in the ass and it's official policy anyway. Also, useless trivia for the types, such as them being the "only" thing that is weak/resistant/immune to something is pretty discouraged. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:17, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

== Sorry. ==

I didn't know. I was only trying to help Bulbapedia be as detailed as possible. Cut me some slack. I'm still new here. I still need time to get used to things.

== Please ==

Don't create articles for Pokémon belonging to characters of the day. They are among the least-notable characters in the anime who deserve an article. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] [[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]] 20:26, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

== Sho's Raichu ==

Pokémon belonging to one-time characters are not notable. I'm sorry, but the page will have to be deleted. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|electAbuzzzz]] ([[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|TALK]]) 20:26, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

==Questions==
Sorry to bother you, but I'm new and I have a question. I was looking through a couple of articles, and I saw that the names of video games were not in italics. I checked out [[BP:MOS#Formatting_preferences]], and it mentioned that episodes were to be italicized, but I couldn't find anything about italicizing the names of games. Is there a policy that says they shouldn't be in italics? Or can I italicize them? Thanks. [[User:Blastoise|Blastoise]] 21:38, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

== Type2 template ==

Try putting <nowiki>{{type2|whatever type you want}}</nowiki> instead of <nowiki>{{t|whatever type you want}}-type</nowiki>. --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 21:25, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

:Seriously. --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 21:31, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

== You seem to be a competent battler ==

Hi, im DCM and i was wondering if you cared to battle? im always looking for new people to battle, and i think you sound pretty good. im a part of a league called the [http://ipgl.proboards84.com/index.cgi IPGL]so, id prefer if you contacted me there for the battle. the BP admins dont like this sort of stuff on talk pages. --[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((Talk]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Contributions))]] 23:20, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

==Please==
Slow down on editing the <code>User:</code> namespace. Editing your userpage too much will lead to it being locked again. Instead of making multiple small edits, why not instead use the preview button (Alt + Shift + P) to check your edits before saving the page? Thank you. --''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 21:28, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

==Signatures==
The new [[Bulbapedia:Signature Policy|Signature Policy]] states that no one is allowed to have images in their signature anymore. They are distracting and unneeded. Please refrain from adding images to your signature. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 21:28, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

:All right. I won't include moving Sharpedo pics. [[User:SharKing|'''Shar''']]'''K'''[[User Talk:SharKing|'''ing''']]

==[[Pokémon Platinum Version]]==

Hi! I saw your question on your [[User:SharKing#ANSWER REQUIRED!|User Page]], and from what I hear DS games are region free! This might help [http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071219210927AAWCqcv] Hope it did --[[User:Britannia's Blade|Britannia's Blade]] 21:51, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

== Hey ==

:Looks like you found my secret page. I didn't really think anyone would find it at first....how ''did'' you find it? It's amazing...--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 02:54, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
::I was looking around for {{tt|users who showed some powerful battling Pokémon|Much to my disappointment, I found none.}} when I came across your page. Then, that orange banner of yours intrigued me. I thought: "Secret page? Could it be what I'm looking for?" Then, the rest is history. [[User:SharKing|'''Shar''']]'''K'''[[User Talk:SharKing|'''ing''']] 03:00, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Powerful trainers you mean? Then you should go here: [[http://ipgl.proboards84.com/]]. That is the International Pokémon Gym League, featuring eight powerful gym leaders from Bulbapedia. You can always battle them whenever they're open and win badges.--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 03:47, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

== Bleh ==

I was gonna add you under another section. Im just really lazy. Ill finish a little more by tomorrow--[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((Nag at Me!]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Edits))]]

== Thank you. ==

Finally! Someone understands! [[User:Dialgarules|Dialgarules]] 21:22, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

== Sho's Raichu ==

I mostly wanted to do it because Sho's Raichu is totally awesome. However, yes, I agree that it was semi-noticable, seeing as how it was another chance to show that Pikachu will NEVER become a Raichu. . No matter how much I want it to.- ''unsigned comment from [[User:ShinjiLover|ShinjiLover]] ([[User talk:ShinjiLover|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/ShinjiLover|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''

== Oops! ==

I'm SO glad that they have the 'edit' options in these User talks. . I always seem to foget my signature! I hate being a newbie. I'm probably not going to get too flashy until I learn a little more about Bulbapedia.

[[User:ShinjiLover|ShinjiLover]] 21:16, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

== My User Page ==

I just don't want a userpage. That's all there is to it. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 20:04, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

== Hey... ==

I have 6 lvl 100s and get on shoddy battle, lets see who is better around here, while i cant right now, how about maybe monday. [[User:Atomix26|Atomix26]] 16:15, 28 November 2008 (UTC) (its not nice to make fun of others)

== Oh and BTW ==

I never got bak to you on this.The attack is the DAy Santa Clause breaks into your home and eats all of your cookies.[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((Shut the **** up]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
:Oh, I get the joke. You're Darth Cookie Monster, and you don't want Santa eating your cookies. --[[User:SharKing|'''Shar'''K'''ing''']] (([[User Talk:SharKing|Talk to the King!]])) 15:45, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

== Your Fakémon ==

Yes, I saw! =] That's what made me inspired to put up MY Fakémon.
 Also, thank you sooo much for the Japanese symbols for their names! How do you get those? I also need one for the first evolved form of my Fakémon, Ryumi.

: [[User:ShinjiLover|ShinjiLover]] 00:51, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

== Me Again, Y'know? The Pain in the Ass? ==

Hey, Kingy! Can I call ya Kingy? Anyway, I had a request. Is there any way that you can get the name 'Nareta' in Kanji (or whatever you use, I have no clue. .)? Please and thank you! If you can't, that's fine. =]
:Love, [[User:ShinjiLover|ShinjiLover]] 03:21, 12 December 2008 (UTC), who is still working on getting a better siggy.
::Yay! =D Thanks soooo much!
:::Love, [[User:ShinjiLover|ShinjiLover]], who is ''still'' working on getting a better siggy.

Hey there! {{tt|Finally got off my ass and made a signature|Laziness is a cruel mistress}}! {{tt|Yay!|Hiding my pain. . XD}} I used your idea and colors. What do you think?
:Love, ''[[User:ShinjiLover|シンジ]]'''''[[Paul|Shinji]]'''''[[User talk:ShinjiLover|Lover]]'', <strike>[[Special:Contributions/ShinjiLover|who finally got off her ass and made a decent signature.]]</strike>

==RE: What a weird coincidence.==

Yes, it's really a weird coincidence... it would have been weirder if we've been born on the same day xD !!! C U soon...bye bye! --[[User:DarkSally|DarkSally]][[User talk:DarkSally|(complaints department)]] 19:35, 16 December 2008 (UTC) ps: your page about Sharkruel is fantastic... congratulations!
:Er...if we ''had'' been born on the same day... sorry for the mistake :P --[[User:DarkSally|DarkSally]][[User talk:DarkSally|(complaints department)]] 12:33, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

== Hey, ==

I noticed that you play Trozei and Mystery Dungeon 2. I have some questions about them. Could you post on my talk page when you have the chance?--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 17:48, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
:If you're willing to talk about this, please do it on the [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net forums] or via IM / e-mail instead, it doesn't belong here to the wiki talk pages. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 17:53, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
::I want to know which Pokémon have alternate form sprites so I can make templates that show them. Nothing else.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 18:31, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
:::Oh, that's OK to ask here. At least for MD2, I'd guess all Pokémon with different forms in main games have also them in MD2, but I have no idea about Trozei. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 19:06, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
::::Don't worry, I know not to start non-'pedia discussions. Also, @ SharKing, you actually don't have to restart this conversation on my page, I'll just be watching this one.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 19:39, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::psst. Want me to do a guest pokemon of the week?[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
:::::::@DCM: Go ahead and do one on my page. Better to have a guest Poke-o'-da-Week than none at all.
:::::::@MisterE13: In PMD2, Pokémon have their alternate sprites; Deoxys changes form upon going to the next floor. As for Trozei, I'm clueless.
::::::::Christmas in 3 days! I'm excited! [[User:SharKing|SharKing]][[User talk:SharKing|Ho]] [[Special:Contributions/SharKing|ho]] ho! 17:51, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::Go to any Pokémon page go to ''''In side games''''. You see the "portrait" thing we have for PMD2? Are those any different for Unown, {{tt|Spinda|Hope not}}, Castform, Deoxys, Burmy, Wormadam, Cherrim, Shellos or Gastrodon. (Giratina, and Rotom didn't have any yet and Shaymin and Arceus wern't released). I'll ask someone else about Trozei.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 18:24, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
OK, SK, I put up user tags. I'll do some writing later. By the way, have you done any research on the stuff discussed ^above^?--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]]
:In PMD2, there are different "portraits" for Unown, Burmy, Wormadam, Shellos, and Gastrodon that I'm sure about. I still need to research Deoxys, Castform, and Cherrim, and I doubt the "difference" thing applies for Spinda. As for Trozei, still clueless. [[User:SharKing|'''シャーキング''']] [[User talk:SharKing|私に相談してください。]] [[Special:Contributions/SharKing|自分の編集を参照してください。]] 03:13, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
::Well that second batch changes forms anyway so they could get away with one portrait.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 03:19, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
:::I don't suppose there are any gender differences in PMD2.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 17:58, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
::::Actually, there are. Look at Hippopotas and Hippowdon, the Pokémon with the most obvious differences. '''[[User:SharKing|SharKing]] [[User talk:SharKing|Productions]]''' 21:36, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::I mean in the portraits. I don't actually have the game. Just wondering about it for template purposes.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 00:21, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::I have videos uploading now. To kill time, I'll look into it. '''[[User:SharKing|SharKing]] [[User talk:SharKing|Productions]]''' 00:27, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Portraits get gender differences. I just found out. '''[[User:SharKing|SharKing]] [[User talk:SharKing|Productions]]''' 00:46, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

==Porygon-Z==

I like the name of your {{p|Porygon-Z}}! Hahaha. --[[User_talk:XxXcharmanderXxX|XxX]][[User:XxXcharmanderXxX|charmander]][[User_talk:XxXcharmanderXxX|XxX]] 08:57, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

== DCM ==

He's not leaving... [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 03:05, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
:What? This was a prank? He must have decided to do it 4 months early, considering it would be obvious on April Fool's Day. [[User:SharKing|'''シャーキング''']] [[User talk:SharKing|私に相談してください。]] [[Special:Contributions/SharKing|自分の編集を参照してください。]] 03:07, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
::Oops, I meant to say 3 months. [[User:SharKing|'''シャーキング''']] [[User talk:SharKing|私に相談してください。]] [[Special:Contributions/SharKing|自分の編集を参照してください。]] 03:07, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Heh.... half of bulbapedia believed anyway. And if you read, he's actualy apologizing to those who signed on that thing. meh you signed it, he apologizes to you too :P --[[Charizard (Pokémon)|Force]] [[User:Force Fire|''Fire'']] [[User talk:Force Fire|''talk'']] 03:11, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
::::READ THE ENTIRE PAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]] 05:37, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

==Again==
This is your second warning. Please refrain from editing the <code>User:</code> namespace too rapidly, or you will lose privileges. ----[[Blastoise (Pokémon)|K]][[User:Kkllnn|K]] [[user talk:Kkllnn|l]]lnn 18:11, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
:Soory. I got confused by my own list of contributions, which is getting me concerned that I'm going "the DCM way." [[User:SharKing|'''シャーキング''']] [[User talk:SharKing|私に相談してください。]] [[Special:Contributions/SharKing|自分の編集を参照してください。]] 18:13, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
::Eh? Which way is that? You have to specifyl, their are many[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]] 18:34, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
:::It means I need to focus on the mainspace, as you described. [[User:SharKing|'''シャーキング''']] [[User talk:SharKing|私に相談してください。]] [[Special:Contributions/SharKing|自分の編集を参照してください。]] 18:35, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

== Silver ==

Can I be on your bulbapedia team?
Pokémon = Stantler
[[User:Garrison12795|Garr]][[Ludicolo (Pokémon)|ison]][[User talk:Garrison12795|12795]] 19:07, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
:{{p2|Kingdra|Oooh, me too, please?}}--[[Blastoise (Pokémon)|K]][[User:Kkllnn|K]] [[user talk:Kkllnn|l]]lnn 19:08, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
::Garrison12795, consider yourself qualified. Kkllnn, I'll qualify you if you find another Pokémon; I can't get Kingdra because I don't have any way to trade between GBC games, and I don't know where the Dragon Scale is. Also, Garrison12795, your name is a bit too long. How would you like to shorten it? [[User:SharKing|'''シャーキング''']] [[User talk:SharKing|私に相談してください。]] [[Special:Contributions/SharKing|自分の編集を参照してください。]] 19:13, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
::: {{tt|{{p2|Umbreon|Since Scizor won't work either, then...}}|If it's not too much trouble}}--[[Blastoise (Pokémon)|K]][[User:Kkllnn|K]] [[user talk:Kkllnn|l]]lnn 19:15, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
::::Kkllnn, consider yourself qualified. [[User:SharKing|'''シャーキング''']] [[User talk:SharKing|私に相談してください。]] [[Special:Contributions/SharKing|自分の編集を参照してください。]] 19:16, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
:May I be a Slowpoke? =D [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 19:17, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
::Find a way to shorten your name like Garrison12795. Other than that, you're qualified. [[User:SharKing|'''シャーキング''']] [[User talk:SharKing|私に相談してください。]] [[Special:Contributions/SharKing|自分の編集を参照してください。]] 19:19, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
:::How's Garrison? [[User:Garrison12795|Garr]][[Ludicolo (Pokémon)|ison]][[User talk:Garrison12795|12795]] 19:19, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
::::All right, Garrison. And Dark Fiddler, how's this? "DarkFidler" [[User:SharKing|'''シャーキング''']] [[User talk:SharKing|私に相談してください。]] [[Special:Contributions/SharKing|自分の編集を参照してください。]] 19:21, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
:DrkFddler Is that ok? [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 19:21, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
::I'll accept that.

One space left! Any takers? [[User:SharKing|'''シャーキング''']] [[User talk:SharKing|私に相談してください。]] [[Special:Contributions/SharKing|自分の編集を参照してください。]] 19:22, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
::Is it ok if I change my Pokémon to Phanpy? [[User:Garrison12795|Garr]][[Ludicolo (Pokémon)|ison]][[User talk:Garrison12795|12795]] 19:23, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
:::'''I say that this is where an admin comes in and starts screaming at us about how this is completely irrelevant and we have to go to the forums or AIM'''...--[[Blastoise (Pokémon)|K]][[User:Kkllnn|K]] [[user talk:Kkllnn|l]]lnn 19:24, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
::Could I be Alakazam? I'd say Squirtle but you couldn't get one.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 19:24, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
:::With no way of trading, I can only access Kadabra. Either that or another Pokémon. [[User:SharKing|'''シャーキング''']] [[User talk:SharKing|私に相談してください。]] [[Special:Contributions/SharKing|自分の編集を参照してください。]] 19:26, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
::::[[Qwilfish (Pokémon)|Got room for one more? Oh, and the nickname, either '''Missingno.''' or '''M.M''' will do.]] ]] - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 19:30, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::Mind if I steal the idea? [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 19:31, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::Me too?--[[Blastoise (Pokémon)|K]][[User:Kkllnn|K]] [[user talk:Kkllnn|l]]lnn 19:31, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::::MWAHAHA! {{p|Crobat}}, if you will. [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 19:32, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
What idea to steal? I'm clueless. And Ht14, I can't trade. Find another and I'll flip a coin between you and Missingno. Master, [[User:SharKing|'''シャーキング''']] [[User talk:SharKing|私に相談してください。]] [[Special:Contributions/SharKing|自分の編集を参照してください。]] 19:33, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
:Crobat =/= trade needed, right? And the whole theme team idea thing. Can I steal that idea? [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 19:34, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
:Crobat evolves by happiness.--[[Blastoise (Pokémon)|K]][[User:Kkllnn|K]] [[user talk:Kkllnn|l]]lnn 19:35, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
I know. Edit conflict frustration screwed me up. Okay, I'll flip a coin, and feel free to use the idea. [[User:SharKing|'''シャーキング''']] [[User talk:SharKing|私に相談してください。]] [[Special:Contributions/SharKing|自分の編集を参照してください。]] 19:36, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

guys, this isnt pedia related, you should probably take the conversation elsewhere. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 19:37, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
:I knew it! I knew that would happen!--[[Blastoise (Pokémon)|K]][[User:Kkllnn|K]] [[user talk:Kkllnn|l]]lnn 19:38, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
Sorry for the non-Pedia discussion, Deth. By the way, Ht14 wins. [[User:SharKing|'''シャーキング''']] [[User talk:SharKing|私に相談してください。]] [[Special:Contributions/SharKing|自分の編集を参照してください。]] 19:40, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
:That was the most attention my talk page ever received! Wow! [[User:SharKing|'''シャーキング''']] [[User talk:SharKing|私に相談してください。]] [[Special:Contributions/SharKing|自分の編集を参照してください。]] 19:43, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
::Last thing, as the idea think upper, you get a free spot on my team, SharKing, if you want it. *Is shot for non-pedia-ness* [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 19:46, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

== Reply ==

N.P I'll help too I just need to find my game ><--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 22:48, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

== Wonder Orbs ==

I think it'll be better to just make a section in the [[Wonder Orbs]] article and make a redirect to that section using the real name. That's what I've been doing with the Orb articles that you've been creating. Since there's so little information for each Orb... - '''[[User talk:EspeonA|esp]][[Special:Contributions/EspeonA|eon]][[User:EspeonA|A]]''' 23:22, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

== Why... ==

make Wonder Orb pages? They're not needed. [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 23:22, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

== Sorry. ==

I got a little edit-crazy. I'll still make status-condition pages, though. I'm sure that's acceptable. [[User:SharKing|'''シャーキング''']] [[User talk:SharKing|私に相談してください。]] [[Special:Contributions/SharKing|自分の編集を参照してください。]] 23:24, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
:I don't think we need status-condition pages, either... If you're talking about the ones in Mystery Dungeon, there's a [[Status ailments in Mystery Dungeon]] page. ;) - '''[[User talk:EspeonA|esp]][[Special:Contributions/EspeonA|eon]][[User:EspeonA|A]]''' 23:25, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
::What you COULD do...add the orbs on the [[Wonder Orbs]] page. There are still missing orbs, so you can add to it. For instance, the Shocker Orb. Also, for other Mystery Dungeon items, see {{Cat|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon items}}. [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 23:31, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Many of those items on the wanted pages should be within lists with more than one on them, with as many as possible on one page. Please keep this in mind. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 23:57, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

== Reply ==

My talk page :D--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 03:38, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

== What the Fearow is up with your movesets? ==

Er - well I do have an action reply but there is a much simpler explination - I ****** up :) I changed my team but not the moves so I need to alter that when I get 5 - well spooted and thanks for pointing it out to me [[User:PhantomCX|PhantomCX]] 12:37, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

May (anime)

2008-12-18T21:27:52Z

PhantomCX:

{{CharacterInfobox|
name=May |
jname=ハルカ |
tmname=Haruka |
slogan=no |
image=[[Image:MayDiamondPearl.png|250px]] |
caption=May as she appears in the [[Diamond & Pearl series]] |
age=yes |
years=10 (as of [[AG001|debut]]) |
colors=yes |
eyes=Blue |
hair=Brown |
gender=Female |
hometown=[[Petalburg City]] |
region=[[Hoenn]] |
relatives=[[Max]] (brother), [[Norman]] (father), [[Caroline]] (mother) |
trainer=yes |
trainerclass={{pkmn|Coordinator}} |
game=counterpart|
counterpart={{ga|May}}|
leader=no |
team=no |
brain=no |
anime=yes |
epnum=AG001 |
epname=Get the Show on the Road |
enva=[[Veronica Taylor]] ({{4Kids}}) [[Michele Knotz]] ({{PUSA}})|
java=[[KAORI]] |
}}
'''May''' (Japanese: '''ハルカ''' ''Haruka'') is a ten-year-old {{g|Coordinator}} from the {{pkmn|anime}} and a {{ashfr|traveling companion}} of {{Ash}}. Her goal is to compete in {{g|Contest}}s and win [[ribbon]]s, win the [[Grand Festival]]s of the different regions, and become a top {{pkmn|Coordinator}}. She traveled through [[Hoenn]] and [[Kanto]] with Ash, [[Brock]], and her little brother [[Max]]. She is the daughter of [[Norman]] and [[Caroline]], and her [[starter Pokémon]] was a {{p|Torchic}} given to her by [[Professor Birch]]. Her Japanese voice actress is [[KAORI]], but is credited as 鈴木カオリ ''Kaori Suzuki'' in her Diamond & Pearl appearances. She is voiced by [[Veronica Taylor]] ({{4Kids}} dub) and [[Michele Knotz]] ({{PUSA}} dub) in the English version, by ''Mariana Ortiz'' in the Latin American Spanish dub, by [[Tatiane Keplemaier]] in the Brazilian dub and by [[Isabel Ribas]] (Battle Frontier) in the European Portuguese dub.

===Character===
[[Image:May_Anime_Artwork.jpg|thumb|left|150px|May as she appeared during the [[Advanced Generation series]]]]
May is a young {{g|Coordinator}} who loves shopping and eating treats. She has a particular fondness for food, especially noodles. May is generally very sweet and optimistic, though she shows a tougher side sometimes, such as when she argues with her little brother, [[Max]]. Even though they argue often, she has shown that she deeply cares for her brother.

She loves [[Cute Contest|cute]] [[Pokémon]], flashy techniques, and has a tendency to rely on luck, often using Skitty's {{m|Assist}} or Munchlax's {{m|Metronome}}. She sometimes takes an interest in helping other people with romantic problems. She loves making her own [[Pokéblock]]s with recipes that she thinks up, including ones called "May's Purple Surprise" and "May's Pink Surprise" (Japanese: ''Haruka's Delicious'' and ''Haruka's Delicious 2'').

When May debuted in the anime, she did not like Pokémon at all and was only interested in becoming a {{g|Trainer}} so she could travel. Everyone expected her to become a trainer, to follow in her [[Gym Leader]] father's footsteps. However, after seeing a {{g|Contest}} in ''[[AG013|All Things Bright and Beautifly!]]'', she decided to become a Pokémon Coordinator. Though she was initially shown to not know much about Pokémon or [[move|attack]]s, she gradually gained experience through her journey and soon became a talented coordinator, with her skill being displayed in her [[Grand Festival]] rankings in the [[Hoenn]] and [[Kanto]] regions. May is sometimes dubbed as the "Princess of Hoenn", which was what {{an|Dawn}} reffered to her as when they met.

During her journey, she gets a new rival in [[Drew]], a skilled and sometimes arrogant boy who was one of her main inspirations to try harder to become a great coordinator. She also has another main rival in [[Harley]], a flamboyant man who goes to extremes to beat May. At the end of the [[Advanced Generation series]], she leaves to compete with Drew and Harley in the [[Johto]] region. May has [[Contest Pass]]es to compete in [[Hoenn]], [[Kanto]] and [[Johto]].

May reappeared from ''[[DP075|Our Cup Runneth Over!]]'' to ''[[DP079|Strategy With a Smile!]]'' to participate in the [[Wallace Cup]] alongside {{Ash}}, {{an|Dawn}} and [[Zoey]]. During this period, she wore the {{v|Emerald}} of her outfit. May made it all the way to the finals of the Wallace Cup, but narrowly lost to Dawn in the end.

May has a personal [[List of Japanese ending themes|ending theme song]], ''[[I won't lose! ~Haruka's theme~|I won't lose! ~May's theme~]]'', performed by [[KAORI]]. It was first used as background music in the episode ''[[AG166|Curbing the Crimson Tide]]'' and again in next episode, ''[[AG167|What I Did for Love]]''.

===Pokémon===
This listing is of May's Pokémon as of her guest appearance in Sinnoh:
{|border="1" style="border: 1px solid #000; border-collapse: collapse;" width=575px cellspacing="0"
|-
| align=center colspan=2| [[Image:255.png]] → [[Image:256.png]] → [[Image:257.png]] 
[[May's Blaziken|Torchic → Combusken → Blaziken]]
| align=center colspan=2| [[Image:265.png]] → [[Image:266.png]] → [[Image:267.png]] [[May's Beautifly|Wurmple → Silcoon → Beautifly]]
|-
| align=center colspan=2| [[Image:May's Eevee Egg.png]] → [[Image:133.png]] → [[Image:471.png]] [[May's Glaceon|Egg → Eevee → Glaceon]]
| align=center colspan=2| [[Image:May's_Bulbasaur.PNG]] → [[Image:002.png]] → [[Image:Spr_4d_003_f.png]] [[May's Venusaur|Bulbasaur → Ivysaur → Venusaur]]
|-
| align=center colspan=2 | [[Image:007.png]] → [[Image:008.png]] [[May's Wartortle|Squirtle → Wartortle]]
| align=center | [[Image:446.png]] {{TP|May|Munchlax}}
| align=center | [[Image:300.png]] {{TP|May|Skitty}}
|}

====Borrowed====
{|border="1" style="border: 1px solid #000; border-collapse: collapse;" width=120px cellspacing="0"
| align=center | [[Image:107.png]] {{p|Hitmonchan}}
|}

Borrowed from [[Kyle Hamm]] in ''[[AG145|Pasta La Vista]]''.

===Ribbons===
====Hoenn ribbons====
* [[Fallarbor Town]] [[Ribbon]] (''[[AG051|Come What May!]]'')
* [[Verdanturf Town]] Ribbon (''[[AG062|Disguise Da Limit]]'')
* [[Lilycove City]] Ribbon (''[[AG091|Lessons in Lilycove!]]'')
* [[Izabe Island]] Ribbon (''[[AG103|A Cacturne for the Worse]]'')
* [[Pacifidlog Town]] Ribbon (''[[AG116|Pacifidlog Jam]]'')

<gallery>
Image:Mayfallarborribbon.jpg|May and the Fallarbor Ribbbon
Image:Maybulbasaurribbon.jpg|May, Bulbasaur, and the Izabe Ribbon
</gallery>

====Kanto ribbons====
* [[Saffron City]] Ribbon (''[[AG144|A Hurdle for Squirtle]]'')
* {{Ka|Silver Town}} Ribbon (''[[AG151|Weekend Warrior]]'')
* [[Chrysanthemum Island]] Ribbon (''[[AG162|Spontaneous Combusken!]]'')
* [[Gardenia Town]] Ribbon (''[[AG167|What I Did for Love]]'')
* [[Mulberry Town]] Ribbon (''[[AG175|Going for Choke!]]'')

====Johto ribbons====
[[Image:Mayjohtoribbons.jpg|thumb|left|150px|May's [[Johto]] ribbons]]
{{left clear}}
* Three unknown Ribbons (prior to ''[[DP076|A Full Course Tag Battle!]]'')

===Grand Festival ranking===
May placed in the following [[Grand Festival]] competitions:
* [[Hoenn]] Grand Festival (Top 8)
* [[Kanto]] Grand Festival (Top 4)

===Other achievements===
* [[PokéRinger]] - Runner-up
* {{g|Orienteering}} - Runner-up
* Unofficial {{to|Terracotta}} Contest - Winner (tied with {{Ash}})
* [[Wallace Cup]] - Runner-up

==In the TCG==
This listing is of cards mentioning or featuring May or her Pokémon in the {{g|Trading Card Game}}.

{| {{bluetable}}
|- style="background: #DDDDFF;"
!Name
!Type
!Level
!Rarity
!Set
!Set no.
|-
| {{TCG ID|8th Movie Half Deck|May's Munchlax|8}} || {{e|Colorless}} || - || - || {{TCG|8th Movie Half Deck}} (no English release) || 8/20
|-
| {{TCG ID|9th Movie Half Deck|May's Combusken|2}} || {{e|Fire}} || - || - || {{TCG|9th Movie Half Deck}} (no English release) || 2/19
|-
| {{TCG ID|"ADV-P" Promo|May's Torchic|37}} || {{e|Fire}} || - || - || {{TCG|"ADV-P" Promotional cards}} (no English release) || 37/"ADV-P"
|}

==Trivia==
* May was the first female video game [[Player|protagonist]] to travel with Ash.
* May is the only main character who has had two of the same Pokémon as Ash, which are {{p|Squirtle}} and {{p|Bulbasaur}}.
* She is the only one of Ash's friends to catch more than one [[starter Pokémon]].
* She is the only one of Ash's friends who started off not liking Pokémon.
* She is the only beginner trainer that was not given an introduction by the [[Narrator]] in their first episode. Instead, she gave her own {{wp|Grammatical person|first person}} introduction.
* May was the second of [[Ash's friends]] to have a lead role in a Pokémon movie, the first being her brother [[Max]].
* May and Max are the only friends of Ash not to meet Ash's rival, [[Gary Oak]], at one time or another. Ironically, May took one of Professor Oak's {{TP|May|Squirtle}}, just as Gary had done when he started out. Also they both ended up getting an {{p|Eevee}} along their journeys and evolving it into an [[Eeveelution]] that would debut in the next generation that they premiered in.
* May and Max are two of three of Ash's friends who has had their father make an appearance in the anime. The other is Brock.
* When May reappears as a guest character, she appeared in five episodes, compared to the two episodes [[Misty]] appeared in for her guest appearance during the Hoenn saga. However, Misty also made a second guest appearance from ''[[AG132|The Scheme Team]]'' to ''[[AG134|A Real Cleffa Hanger]]'', a further three episodes. Misty also appeared in four {{g|Sunday}}/{{pkmn|Chronicles}} specials, an option not available to May.
* May, along with Ash, owns the most Pokémon that have evolved twice since they were obtained, with three. Strangely, for both Trainers, they are the final form {{type2|Fire}} starter from [[Hoenn|their own region]] ({{TP|May|Blaziken}}), the final form {{type2|Grass}} starter from the [[Kanto|other region]] that appeared in [[Generation III]]'s handheld games ({{TP|May|Venusaur}}), and the first Pokémon that they caught from the wild, their region's native butterfly ({{TP|May|Beautifly}}). These correspond to Ash's {{AP|Charizard}}, {{AP|Sceptile}}, and {{AP|Butterfree}}.
* The only Pokémon she has that remained unevolved are Munchlax and Skitty. Coincidentally, both are {{type2|Normal}}, and each would only need to evolve once to reach their final stage.
* May is the only one of Ash's friends that has never owned a {{cat|Generation II Pokémon}} (excluding [[Max]], which does not yet have a Pokémon of his own).
* May is the only one of Ash's female friends to have never fought a gym leader of any sort. She did, however, initially intend to go on her own badge quest before deciding to be a {{pkmn|Coordinator}}, and did in fact battle ''in'' a Gym, but with a [[Watt|Gym assistant]].
* May's contest cry is "Take the stage!" (US) and "Stage On!" (Japan).
* All of May's major rivals have {{type2|Bug}} Pokémon. [[Drew]] has {{p|Masquerain}} and {{p|Butterfree}}, [[Harley]] has {{p|Ariados}} and [[Solidad]] has {{p|Butterfree}}.
* May is the only female character {{Ash}} {{ashfr|has traveled with}} who has met both of the other girls that Ash has traveled with.
===Names===
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #88a; border-collapse: collapse;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #ccf;"
! Language
! Name
! Origin
|-
|Japanese
| ハルカ ''Haruka''
| Contains ''haru'', which means "spring." ''Haruka'' also means "far away," which may relate it to Norman's Japanese name, ''Senri'' ("1000 {{wp|li (unit)|li}}").
|-
|English
| May
| Could be a reference to her Japanese name, as May is a month in spring.
|-
|French
| Flora
| Similar to ''leur'', which means "flower".
|-
|German
| Maike
| From ''Mai'', which means "May".
|-
|Italian
| Vera
| From ''primavera'', which means "spring".
|-
|Spanish
| Aura
|Means "dawn". Coincidentely, Dawn's Spanish name, Maya, sounds similar to "May".
|-
|Korean
| 봄이 ''Bom'i''
| 봄 means "spring"
|-
|Chinese (all versions)
| 小遥 ''Xiǎo Yáo''
| From 遥 ''haruka'', far away.
|}

==Related articles==
* {{Cat|Episodes focusing on May}}

==External links==
* [http://cherry.pacificdusk.org/index.php Cherry Girl], the fanlisting for May
* [http://pokeani.com/chara/r-haruka.html Haruka's Profile] on [[Pokeani]] (Japanese)
* [http://pokeani.com/poke/r_poke-haruka.html Haruka's Pokémon] on [[Pokeani]] (Japanese)
* [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showthread.php?t=9031 May Club] on the Bulbagarden forums

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[[Category:Anime characters]]
[[Category:Ash's friends]]
[[Category:Female characters]]

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[[pt:May]]

User talk:Theininen

2008-12-05T13:32:53Z

PhantomCX:

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Thank you, and have a good time editing here! [[User:Tesh|'''TESHIGIGAS''']] [[Image:Ani486MS.gif|{{{2|486}}}]] 16:22, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

:I know that you aren't supposed to mess with the welcome, but how do you do the é thing? I know that it is supossed to work, but I've tried the Alt + 130 and Alt + 0233 things, and they don't work. I can do it using the bar @ the bottom, just an accuracy thing. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 16:34, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

==Theininen's Talk Page==

This is my talk page! Feel free to comment on my edits or page.

:Btw, I operate in UTC-4, or something, NY time, so that's when I'll be on (just subtract 4 hours from the UTC time for my time, & use the "My Prefrences" at the top of the page to see how you differ from UTC, and compare the two to get the difference.) -[[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 00:47, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

=='''CHALLENGE'''==
I am issuing an open challenge! I will accept any challenge against my best team (to be posted on my homepage) that is posted on my board with a Friend code, and will post the time in NY local time that I will be online waiting for the challenger. I will post victories and losses, along with challengers' names, on my board. My Pearl friend code is 2449 2722 7683.

I will accept your challenge but for nearer the weekend, still got some training to do - let me know any rules you want to enforce (No Ubers etc) and your PBR or D/P friend code and I'll let you know my team & my friend code once I know the platform / rules. Also I'm 5 hrs infront of you (I think) GMT+1hr [[User:PhantomCX|PhantomCX]] 11:49, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

:No rules, but NO ridiculous hacks (Sableye with Wonder Guard, psychocotic stats, etc.), I'll battle with all Lv. 100's advise you to do the same (if you can't, I can figure out something else to do), I don't need to know your team, and I won't tell mine (as I won't know until the battle myself), and I only have Pearl, my code is 2449 2722 7683, and I should be able to battle sometime between 2 and 2:45 (my time, I think 7 to 7:45 yours, but to confirm, this post was edited at 8:33 my time, check listed post time for confirmation)). Keep an eye on this talk, I'll let you know when I can. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 00:36, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Ok no problem I’ll give you my D/P code tonight / tomorrow AM. I think I’m 4hrs ahead (this is being posting at 0910am my time) as for the teams that fair enough Ibut just to warn you I will be usining UBERS unless you spciffically don't want me to. Also - if there are any Pokemon that can be breed you want, I have at least one form of all Pokemon and am willing to breed these for trading (see [[User:PhantomCX/Operation ALP]] for more details) - it may only be a level one basic / baby, but at least you can then level it up etc [[User:PhantomCX|PhantomCX]] 08:21, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

:Ubers are fine, but I can't battle until 4 or later my time (9 or later urs, sorry) but I will post when I am ready, add my page to your watchlist so you know when I edit on. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 23:16, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Already have no worries just give me about 3 days notice so I can make sure my team is ready - forgot my friend code too (Damn!!!!) so I'll put it on tonight [[User:PhantomCX|PhantomCX]] 07:21, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Saturday 5/17, 8:00 my time (13:00 yours) should be fine. If not, 14:00 or later my time, 19:00 or later yours, same day, should be fine by me. Let me know early, post friend code, and I'll post when I'm ready. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 20:11, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Ok how dose 2300 my time sound (6pm yours) this Saturday? I gotta get that friend code still, I keep forgetting it will post it later. [[User:PhantomCX|PhantomCX]] 08:32, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

I think I should be able to. As for friend code, next time you come on, just TURN ON YOUR DS, even if you have to run and get it mid-post. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 21:09, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

I edit on Bulba at work most of the time & my DS is at home - not to worry mind fried code is 1160 9698 202, I will double check that cause it looks like I'm a number short & if it is I'll up date tonight from home. Let me know if the time is a problem - i can pretty much do 2130 till around Midnight any night [[User:PhantomCX|PhantomCX]] 07:22, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes, it is missing one in the third section, and I am usually up the same hours my time, starting at arount 7:00, out around 11, should be back by 1300, and probably up until aforementioned times @ home. I will post when I am ready, let me know what hours you can't do, and we're good. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 20:30, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

:Strike that, only able to battle 10:45 or earlier or 18:00 or later (my time). sorry for any problems this may cause. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 21:57, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Going to have to give tonight a miss - just turned on my DS but the top screen is not working at all - looks like i need a new one - any chance we can do this next Saturday?? Sorry [[User:PhantomCX|PhantomCX]] 10:16, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

:Next weekend is sort of confused, I will know by Wednesday or Thursday. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 12:14, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I was busy, how 'bout tomorrow (Monday), between 13:15 and 17:45 my time? [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 00:47, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

OK, Tuesday 10 thru Friday 20 I'm good, Tuesday all, Wed-Fri afternooon, weekend ?, week after all day, Mon-Fri. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 22:46, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

:Sorry not got back - still been without a DS - getting one tomnorrow, so how dose Friday 13 around 2300 my time sound

::...? Dunno, get back to u tomorrow, am very tired, cannot speak in good grammar, thing says tomorro is monday for me still. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 02:27, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Ok - No worries, my full friend code is 1160 9698 2025, finally got a new DS last night!! Let me know about Friday - if you cant do it then, then I can do pretty much any day after Friday at that time, just let me know [[User:PhantomCX|PhantomCX]] 07:15, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

: Forgot to ask as well - is the your Friend code still right??

::No, I need to get my Wi-fi re-hooked, my parents won't let me use it on my computer and I can't find the installation CD to put it on the other one. I'll let you know when something changes. [[User:Theininen|Thein]][[User talk:Theininen|inen]] 20:27, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

: Hey long time - If your still up for a challenge you'll find plenty on on the [http://ipgl.proboards.com/ The IPGL] its where you can battle quite a few people (inc me)

==Trades==

I will accept trades offered here, post what the Pokémon is and other relevant info (Lvl, Shiny, m/f, etc.) about it here or a Pokémon you want from me (same info), and I will respond with an offer, or make open offers to others. My Pearl friend code is 2449 2722 7683. -[[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 03:06, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

:Offering shiny Deoxys, shiny Carvanha, or Lv. 100 Blaziken, Metagross, Salamence, Flygon, Milotic, or Rayquaza for ANY shiny Pokémon. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 20:30, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
::Would you do a shiny Beedrill for a shiny Carvanha? [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 18:52, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Sure, see above for when, and please post friend code (Mine above). [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 19:22, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::::LOL I was gonna say. I thought that you meant I forgot about the trade all together. But I was like "hmmm could have sworn I responded". Unfortunately, that shiny Beedrill is gone. Sorry! If I get another shiny I'll let you know. [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 18:33, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

== Problem ==

About the thing that you asked {{u|Archaic}}.... Actually none of us can edit our user namespace. A lot of the users in the site are making a lot of edits ''only'' to their user namespace which is really not good. The admins decided to block that so the users would start making edits to the main namespace. The blocking is only temporary though. [[Image:Ani448MS.gif]][[User:Jmath|'''Jmath''']][[Image:Ani447MS.gif]][[User talk:Jmath|'''Talk''']][[Image:Ani448MS.gif]] 19:32, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
:It's a server test to see how much it'll reduce load, actually. Unfortunately, it's not doing much. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]][[Image:Ani155MS.gif|Fire echy]]''' 19:41, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
::[[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 21:00, 26 March 2008 (UTC)Thanks for telling me, I thought that it was something I had done. Do you have any idea when I will be able to? I want to make a signature and fix that link on my homepage :P

==My Customs==

When the testing of the server ends, click [[User:Theininen/Custom|here]] for my custom Pokéstuff (Pokémon, Poké Balls, etc.), it's pretty cool. -[[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 21:33, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

== Yanmega... ==

I almost forgot Yanmega ever existed...

[[User:AKgirl|AK]][[User talk:AKgirl|girl]]22:46, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

He's one of my favorites. No offense taken though. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 01:01, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

== Shines ==

Actually... eh, I like all of the shinies I have... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:01, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
:Could you [[Cloning|clone]] them? -[[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 02:09, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

== Deoxys ==

I suspect it is a hack as these characters are not normally input into the system. Ask your friend where he got the Deoxys from. If it wasn't at an event, probably a hack. '''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|{{tt|Optimatum♏|Optimus35}}]]</sc>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]02:07 30 Mar 2008'''

:I don't remember who I got it from, as it was at a summer camp, but as it seems to be otherwise normal, I will gve it the benefit of the doubt and assume that its original trainer was either extremely lucky, or had the time to turn their GBA on and off several times until they encountered it as a shiny. If I use it in a battle with someone and they see that it knows something or can do something it shouldn't be able to, please let me know. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 00:58, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

== Nonexistant Games ==

Please do not create articles about Pokémon games that do not exist. We could care less if Nintendo trademarks their names, if there's no game to a name, there's no article to it either. Make one more article about a Pokémon game that doesn't exist and I'll lower the boom. Hard. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 00:57, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Six-month block. Just because there are rumblings about Topaz, Amethyst, Whitegold, or Tourmaline, that doesn't mean those games actually exist. You were warned to stop making articles about Pokémon games that do not exist. Since you responded by making an article about a nonexistant Moonstone version, obviously you didn't listen.

Bulbapedia takes the Pokémon game canon very seriously, and we don't need articles about rumored names clogging up the place. If we responded to every rumor we hear about, we'd have an article at Dawn's Swinub about what could be a movie COTD's Swinub, the [[Ash's Gligar]] article would be at Ash's Gliscor even though the Gliscor could be {{OP|Paul|Gliscor}} or a COTD's, and all the rumblings about changes to {{an|May}}'s team for her reapperance would result in articles at May's Glaceon, May's Wartortle, and May's Snorlax.

Please take this next six months to sort out the facts from fiction, rumors, and speculation. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 01:06, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

:OK, after some criticism, including some people believing six months to be a bit extreme, I've decided to reduce your block to six weeks. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 01:29, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

::After several attempts, I managed to tell someone that it was an accident(see [[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]]'s talk for full story) and have returned. I will try to be more careful about what I do in the future. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 23:52, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

== Welcome Back ==

Welcome Back to Bulbapedia Theininen!

As a newly unblocked user, you may wish to relearn a few things that will be useful in your editing:
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Thank you, and have a good time editing here!--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 20:11, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

:I know that you aren't supposed to mess with the welcome, but how do you do the é thing? I know that it is supossed to work, but I've tried the Alt + 130 and Alt + 0233 things, and they don't work. I can do it using the bar @ the bottom, just an accuracy thing. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 16:34, 11 May 2008 (UTC) (also posted above)
::Do you have Num Lock on? Turn it on, then use the numbers on the number pad. At least, that's how my computer does it; it's a notebook, so the number pad is sort of hidden in the rest of the keyboard... --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Talk))]] 07:27, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

:::Ok, it works. Thanks. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 20:12, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

== [[Pokémon Platinum]] ==
[[{{ns:6}}:Platinum Version Cartridge Concept Fake.PNG|right|thumb|Pokémon Platinum DS cartridge Concept]]
To begin with: FINALLY!!!!!

but 2009 US release?... oh well, at least its coming. Yay! [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 22:01, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

:Here's a cartridge concept I came up with. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 01:26, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

== Hacked Pokémon ==

How to spot 'em? Reply if you know how. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 21:52, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
:It varies from case to case. Any Pokémon with a move it can't get through level-up, breeding, tutoring, TM/HM, purification, or any other way I forgot to mention is hacked. Same with abilities; a {{a|Wonder Guard}} {{p|Spiritomb}} is one of the most popular hacked Pokémon out there. And sometimes, a Pokémon is just so ridiculous, you can tell it's hacked. I'm looking at my brother's Pearl Version (shh, don't tell him I took it), and he got a lv. 100 [[alternate coloration|shiny]] {{p|Deoxys}} that once had the [[Pokérus]] and was apparently "met at level 0" off the GTS. I can't tell you if it's stats are hacked, since I don't know much about what their value would be with high EVs, but I think it's pretty clear this isn't a completely legitimate Pokémon. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Talk))]] 22:08, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
::But I had heard that there were specific AR OT's and stuff like that, anything you know of? [[User:Theininen|Thein]][[User talk:Theininen|inen]] 20:16, 11 June 2008 (UTC) (P.S. like my new sig?)

As well as what Martonimos wrote

You can look at what Poké Ball they use – i.e. the only way to get Eevee, the starters from the main series and a few others is to either breed ‘em or be given them so they can only ever be in a normal Poké Ball.

Think of the probability of what they’ve got – i.e. The chances of getting 6 shinny Pokemon 1 in 49152 – the chances of getting 6 shinny with perfect stats is insurmountable (or rather I cant be bothered to work it all out). I dont think you can say it is impossible but to say it's extreamly unlikely is an understatment.

This only helps if you have access to the information but you can also check where they were caught (Dose that Pokémon really appear on that route??),at what level and also, if from Generation III, what region there from – A good example of the last point is Rayquaza – If it says it came from Kanto it is a hack, even if you trade it from Hoenn to Kanto and then migrate it should still say caught in Hoenn, the same can be said for the Lati@s and the reverse for Mewtwo. The only exception is the Ledgendary birds – of whom can be caught in XD and I’m not 100% sure what that says.

To answer the AR ones it I'm not to sure sorry. [[User:PhantomCX|PhantomCX]] 11:01, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

== Identifying Help ==

[[{{ns:6}}:Latias (TCG).jpg|right|thumb|Unidentified Latias TCG card]]
Could someone help me ID this card? I have a lot of cards from the same pack, including the matching Latios, but don't know where it came from. I'd like to make the page myself, but need to know what to make it as. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 20:12, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
:I don't know if you are here sometime or not, but the Latias and Latios cards are from {{TCG|EX Trainer Kit}}. All the cards are already made, but you can add in the pictures. It would be a really cool help if you could. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:05, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
::Can you upload the Latios image? ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 14:17, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
:::I can't right now, as I am not at home, but when I return in September, I will try. [[User:Theininen|Thein]][[User talk:Theininen|inen]] 21:03, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

== Trades ==

Sorry. I've read it before, but I say to myself "oh, that's alright. I'll just come back and reply later", but I forget. I'll get back to you tomorrow too. If I don't, remind me. [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 01:27, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
==Colors==
[[wp:List of colors|List of colors]]. works for here too '''[[User:Pachirisulover12|PL]][[User talk:Pachirisulover12|12]]''' 18:23, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:Gracias! [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 18:28, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::Ooooh awesome I never knew about that article. I used {{wp|Web colors|this one}}. [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 18:49, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

== Sig ==

Finally got it good. [[User:Theininen|Thein]][[User talk:Theininen|inen]] 20:14, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

== Summer ==

I will be unavailable most of the summer, here's when I will be able to do stuff:

:Saturday June 21st-Friday July 11th: Sleepaway camp; Edits intermittent, Wi-Fi Unknown.
:Saturday July 12th: At home; Edits possible, Wi-Fi unknown (see above in [[User talk:Theininen#Challenge|Challenge]])
:Sunday July 13th-Sunday July 20th: Other sleepaway camp; No connection at all.
:Monday July 21st onward, I should have Internet access; Wi-Fi still unknown.
I will have more details about 21st onward as it comes closer. [[User:Theininen|Thein]][[User talk:Theininen|inen]] 02:18, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

OK, I will have Wi-Fi probably in September, edits obviously about normal. [[User:Theininen|Thein]][[User talk:Theininen|inen]] 13:54, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

== Fall 08 ==

My edits will be rare for a while, as I have just started freshman year and have a largely increased workload. When I finally get settled in and used to the workload, they should pick up. I will also be on Bulba itself infrequently and probably won't get on much, but posting on this page or e-mailing me (theininen@optonline.net) should get my attention. Please don't send me your Facebook or Myspace account; I will ignore it, as I don't have them, and may block your e-mail from my account. However, my Wi-Fi has been rehooked, so trades are again possible (although also infrequent, and need to be prearranged). [[User:Theininen|Thein]][[User talk:Theininen|inen]] 02:19, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

User:PhantomCX

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== Hi ==

== Me ==

My name is Chris and I come from England. I’ve been a fan of Pokémon now for nearly eight years and over that time I have owned all of the mainstream games as well as all the Stadiums, Colosseums and I now own PBR. My enjoyment started when I was at school in a Physics lesson. One of my mates was playing Pokémon Blue under the desk and he was seriously addicted to it, at lunch he let me have a look at it and bang I was hooked. The next day I went straight out and bought Pokémon Red. The rest is history.

I currently run a gym at the [http://ipgl.proboards.com/ The IPGL], were always looking for challenges (so far no one has beat all 8 gyms - in fact a couple of gyms havent been beat at all) its run by a few of the people off here and everyone is welcome so if you really want a challenge, you know where we are (well - the link will direct you anyway!!)

== My Links ==

'''[[User:PhantomCX/Generation V]]'''
This is where I put my ideas for for the next Generation
'''[[User:PhantomCX/Operation ALP]]'''
This is where you will find the details on my ALP

== My Game Rankings ==

'''Pokémon {{2v2|Red|Blue}}'''

The alpha Pokémon games - brilliant at there time but look dated now and have kind of been replaced by {{2v2|FireRed|LeafGreen}}. These are still the only games in which you can complete the [[National Pokédex]] with out any cheat devices.

'''Pokémon {{v2|Yellow}}'''

Getting all three starter Pokémon from {{2v2|Red|Blue}}- Fantastic!! Improved graphics and a good take on the first season of the Anime.

'''Pokémon {{2v2|Gold|Silver}}'''

Second best, but only to the games improved version, {{v2|Crystal}}. A huge step up from Generation {{Gen|I}}, which was also, in the scale of games in general, brilliant, & along with {{v2|Crystal}}, the only games to date where it is possible to get 16 badges!!!

'''Pokémon {{v2|Crystal}}'''

By far the best game released in my opinion. See comments on {{2v2|Gold|Silver}} its that and better.

'''Pokémon {{2v2|Ruby|Sapphire}}'''

I was pretty disappointed in these games, I thought many of the new Pokémon introduced just did not stand out like those of the previous Generations, I thought [[Hoenn]] was rather rushed together and could have been a much more interesting & I also thought they left way to many Pokémon out at the time of release although {{2v2|FireRed|LeafGreen}} did help to fill that gap when they came out.

'''Pokémon {{2v2|FireRed|LeafGreen}}'''

Although there remakes I still rate them very high. Loads more to do than the originals and real improvement on the other Generation {{Gen|III}} games.

'''Pokémon {{v2|Emerald}}'''

Ok - I won’t deny I was really not a fan of the {{2v2|Ruby|Sapphire}} Games, one of the reasons is because of the layout of [[Hoenn]] and that’s why {{v2|Emerald}} suffers. I do think it is a major improvement on {{2v2|Ruby|Sapphire}} but it’s stuck in the same region which just lets it down.

'''Pokémon {{2v2|Diamond|Pearl}}'''

These are, in many ways, the best game out, but in some ways it has also gone backwards. By the end of the Generation {{Gen|II}} there were some types that were just better because the certain Pokémon of those types were stronger than the Pokémon of other types. By the end of the Generation {{Gen|III}} I feel this gap had been closed somewhat but I thought {{2v2|Diamond|Pearl}} started to reverse this process - still one hell of a game mind.

== My Pokémon ==

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Talk:Pseudo-legendary Pokémon/Archive 1

2008-12-05T13:00:00Z

PhantomCX:

*What??? Do we seriously need this??? --{{Ani|155}}{{Ani|476}}'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Sandbox|2]]'''{{Ani|473}}[[Image:Trozeiani025.gif]] 20:06, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
:im not going to say its unnessecary, but "Psuedo-legendary" sounds really stupid. so, i think it should either be reworked or deleted. maybe just add to each pokemon's trivia section that they are near legendary or somthing. '''[[Image:Ani081MS.gif|35px]][[User:MAGNEDETH|MAGNEDETH]][[Image:Ani082MS.gif|35px]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|TA]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Riddles|RID]][[User:MAGNEDETH/new evolutions|NE]][[User:MAGNEDETH/do over|DO]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Pokemon teams|PT]][[Image:Ani462MS.gif|35px]]''' 20:12, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
:I say reworked[[Image:Ani386MS.gif]][[User:Pokemaniac102|'''''<big>P</big>o<big>k</big>e''''']][[Image:Ani386AMS.gif]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''<big>m</big>a<big>n</big>i<big>a</big>c''''']][[Image:Ani386DMS.gif]][[User:Pokemaniac102/Riddle|'''''<big>1</big>''''']][[User talk:Pokemaniac102/Riddle|'''''0''''']][[User:Pokemaniac102/Fanfic|'''''<big>2</big>''''']][[User:Pokemaniac102/Picto|'''''♪]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102/Picto|<big>♫</big>''''']][[Image:Ani386SMS.gif]] 20:16, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

:::Needs moar reworking. I'll add the cleanup sign.. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 20:21, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

::::what should they be called then? or do yall think the anme is OK? '''[[Image:Ani081MS.gif|35px]][[User:MAGNEDETH|MAGNEDETH]][[Image:Ani082MS.gif|35px]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|TA]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Riddles|RID]][[User:MAGNEDETH/new evolutions|NE]][[User:MAGNEDETH/do over|DO]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Pokemon teams|PT]][[Image:Ani462MS.gif|35px]]''' 20:36, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::What'ch ya tryin' to say huh!?[[Image:Ani386MS.gif]][[User:Pokemaniac102|'''''<big>P</big>o<big>k</big>e''''']][[Image:Ani386AMS.gif]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''<big>m</big>a<big>n</big>i<big>a</big>c''''']][[Image:Ani386DMS.gif]][[User:Pokemaniac102/Riddle|'''''<big>1</big>''''']][[User talk:Pokemaniac102/Riddle|'''''0''''']][[User:Pokemaniac102/Fanfic|'''''<big>2</big>''''']][[User:Pokemaniac102/Picto|'''''♪]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102/Picto|<big>♫</big>''''']][[Image:Ani386SMS.gif]] 20:38, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

:::::::Seems to me that this would an article if where was a "Competitive Battling Project" thing. I do believe I heard the term "Pseudo-legendary" at least once in some places such as Smogon... [[Image:Ani026MS.gif]][[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]][[Image:Ani392MS.gif]]

::::::::I heard it before. But that was when it was refering to the Groudon in jirachi movie

== Flygon? ==

I thought only base 600s were psudeo legendary. Why is flygon here? [[User:The Placebo Effect|The Placebo Effect]] 02:52, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
:I'm not too sure either. o__O; [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 02:53, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
::It's a three-stage part-dragon type that can only be found in its first form. [[Image:Ani164MS.gif]][[User:Shiny Noctowl|S<big>h</big>i<big>n</big>y]] [[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|<big>N</big>o<big>c</big>t<big>o</big>w<big>l</big>]]  02:54, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
:::i dont think Flygon should be there, its just not rediculous enough '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 02:55, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

== Dragonair? ==

CAn't you find wild dragonair in more than 1 game? [[User:The Placebo Effect|The Placebo Effect]] 03:19, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, FRLGRBYDP, But in DP you can find Pokéradar-ed Vibrava. So? [[Image:Ani197MS.gif]][[User:Midnight Celtic|Midnight Celtic]][[Image:Ani148MS.gif]] 03:21, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

:the fact of the matter is that Dragonite is def a psuedo-leg. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 03:24, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Agreed. [[Image:Ani197MS.gif]][[User:Midnight Celtic|Midnight Celtic]][[Image:Ani148MS.gif]] 03:25, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

== Aggron ==

What about Aggron? [[Image:Ani491MS.gif]][[User:Kpokefan|K]][[User talk:Kpokefan|P]][[User:Kpokefan/Missions|F]][[Image:Ani000MS.gif]] 04:37, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
:Aggron's UU, I believe. UU Pokémon wouldn't be psuedolegendary if they were in UU. :p [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 04:39, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
::may i ask what UU is? '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 04:41, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
:::I think it means Under-used, as in List of Pokémon by Tier, which is fan-made[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|Maniac]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|102]] 04:45, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
::::Yep, under-used. It's fanmade. As is the term pseudolegendary. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 04:46, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::right, well, Aggron doesnt fit the bill because Lairon can be caught in Victory road, and apparently, thats against the rules...or somthing... '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 04:47, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
::::::True.[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|Maniac]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|102]] 04:49, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Wait a minute, you can catch Dragonair in the wild, so how is Lairon against the rules? [[Image:491.png|45px 45px]][[User:Kpokefan|'''K''']][[User talk:Kpokefan|'''P''']][[User:Kpokefan/Missions|'''F''']][[Image:Cal.png|30px 30px]] 02:45, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
::::::::Because Aggron's base stats don't total 600. - [[User:Nebula|Nebula]] 15:45, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

== Real definition for psuedo-legendary ==

Isn't it a BST of 600? [[User:The Placebo Effect|The Placebo Effect]] 13:12, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

== Pseudo-legendary --> Powerhouse ==

It seems to me that everyone who commented on this page, other than Shiny Noctowl, was dumbfounded as to the article's title and definition therein. For pages dealing with fanon terminology, this is a good sign that something has been done '''wrong'''; fanon terms are ''necessarily'' known to a large number of fans, as opposed to a select few, or in this case - no more than one.

Furthemore, the page (prior to my editing it) included mentions of Pokémon with legendary characteristics, despite their having nothing to do with the suggested definiton of pseudo-legendary. It was also a mere copy-and-paste of the corresponding section on the [[Legendary]] page. Now, as for the definition itself, it should be crystal-clear that the powerhouses, as defined by myself, are ''distinct'' in their categorization from any other Pokémon ({{p|Flygon}}, for the sake of discussion). Simply put, they are non-legendary Pokémon whose total base stats is 600, which is a great deal higher than Flygon's 520 (see the trivia paragraph for clarification on {{p|Slaking}}). Besides, what makes Flygon any more special than {{p|Aggron}}, {{p|Walrein}} and the 7 fully-evolved, two-typed starters? All of these match the definition used by Shiny Noctowl. I do hope that competitive usage is not the reason, because {{p|Swampert}} and {{p|Infernape}} clearly outweigh Flygon in that regard.

It amazes me that everyone assumed that the definition was acceptable simply because someone had put it forth. Bulbapedia encourages critical thinking and sets virtually no limits on the users' capacity to edit existing pages. Why was I the only one who had the fortitude to replace the previous definition with one that is actually used by the fandom? --[[User:Unown Lord|Unown Lord]] 16:47, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
:Mudkipchan apparently heard pseudo-legendary on Smogon, and I've heard pseudo-legendary on several websites, so I think it should be moved back. I agree, though, that the definition needed some work. But why remove Flygon? Its stats are slightly lower, but base stats shouldn't be included in the definition. Other than base stats, Flygon is in every way a pseudo-legendary. [[Image:Ani164MS.gif]][[User:Shiny Noctowl|S<big>h</big>i<big>n</big>y]] [[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|<big>N</big>o<big>c</big>t<big>o</big>w<big>l</big>]]  13:57, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

::You can see my comments on the article's name further below. Now, the explanation for my excluding Flygon should be quite obvious from the pieces of trivia; Dragonite, Tyranitar, Salamence, Metagross and Garchomp have more in common than what you listed in your definition, and in fact, they have more in common than just my addition to that definition (a total base stats of 600). Flygon does not share that common denominator; what it does share with the aforementioned five is also shared by ''at the very least'' Walrein and Aggron, who are part of a three-stage line, have two types, require nearly as much experience to reach their form, and have an even higher total of base stats (530). If the only reason for which you included Flygon but excluded those two is that you thought only Flygon was available strictly in its first form, then you thought wrong: In Generation III Sealeo and Walrein are also not available in the wild; in Generation IV both Vibrava and Sealeo are available (incidentally, Lairon is not).

::But all of that is irrelevant, since neither Flygon nor Walrein (nor Aggron, for that matter) has enough in common with the powerhouses/pseudo-legendaries so as to be added to the group. It is enough to require a total base stats of 600 to limit the group to the five relevant ones (a respectable addition in and of itself), but again, their common denominator is even greater than that. Look at the trivia and see it for yourself. --[[User:Unown Lord|Unown Lord]] 13:55, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

I agree with Shiny, Pseudo-Legendary makes more sense. I.E. My Snorlax is a powerhouse, but it isn't a pseudo-legendary. My Flygon is not my powerhouse, yet it is a pseudo-legendary. Catch my drift? [[Image:Ani197MS.gif]][[User:Midnight Celtic|Midnight Celtic]][[Image:Ani148MS.gif]] 15:28, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:Psudo legendary should be used. But the only pokemon that should meet this criteria are those 3 stage evos with a base stat of 600. Slaking is questionable, but I would say no to it, as well as flygon. [[User:The Placebo Effect|The Placebo Effect]] 01:08, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

::I'm with {{u|Unown Lord}}. Take it or leave it. -[[Image:Spr 3e 186.gif|30px]][[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']][[Image:Spr 3e 186.gif|30px]] 03:29, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

:::i agree with Placebo, though i think Slaking might be in. but not Flygon. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 03:31, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

I think Midnight Celtic makes a good point, powerhouse can mean ANY strong Pokémon, where as Psuedo-legendary makes a clear point. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]][[Image:Ani202MS.gif|32px]] 03:37, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

:Incorrect. It depends on the definition, not the connotation that goes along with the given word(s). -[[Image:Spr 3e 186.gif|30px]][[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']][[Image:Spr 3e 186.gif|30px]] 03:39, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

What's the point in a defenition if it doesn't explain clearly the subject? [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]][[Image:Ani202MS.gif|32px]] 03:44, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

absolutly, my old car was nicknamed "the powerhouse" but it was definatly not a pokemon! that being said, "powerhouse" is a general term, it sounds more like a metagame term than a true definition. i could load a powerful pokemon with powerful attacks, and ive got a powerhouse, but a psuedo-legendary means its special in some way, and what you are trying to appeal here is to somone whos never jheard the term before, and they will almost understand what psuedo-legendary just by the sound, where as a powerhouse requires an explanation. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 04:00, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
:I agree, powerhouse is too broad a term for these Pokémon. Pseudo-legendary fits the bill better. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 05:57, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

::First of all, my ''true'' gripe was with the contents of the article; redirecting the article to a new title was primarily symbolic of the reshifting of its underlying ideas. However, I would like to point out the irony in the statement that powerhouse is too broad a term spanning just about every overused Pokémon - the same can be said of pseudo-legendary, as evidenced by the fact that this article originally contained a separate list of Pokémon with legendary characteristics!

::Furthermore, I personally feel that ''pseudo-legendary'' should be used to describe only two Pokémon that are not even mentioned in the article: {{p|Unown}} and {{p|Phione}}. ''Legendary'' alludes to mystery and nature or universe-controlling abilities; this article deals with battle prowess, for which legendaries are certainly well known, but it takes second place to their aura. Besides, some legendaries are not as battle-competent as the pseudo-legendaries/powerhouses in the article - practically all tweleve members of the legendary trios, and arguably some others. This comparison holds in base stats (the legendary trio all have a total of 580, which is lower than 600), but even an in-depth comparison on a competitive level leads to the same conclusion, at least generally. Therefore, is it justified to attach the name ''pseudo-legendary'' to a definition that highlights the battle prowess of Pokémon that are actually stronger than some legendaries? On the other hand, Unown and Phione are indeed pseudo-legendary if the term is taken to mean a Pokémon whose aura is associated with a true legendary ({{p|Suicune}} in Unown's case and {{p|Manaphy}} in Phione's).

::But I digress, as I do agree that if ''pseudo-legendary'' is more frequently used by the fandom to describe the group in question, then it should be used for the purposes of discussing a fanon term.

::One last thing - I appreciate Politoed666's token of solidarity. I don't mind reversions to my own edits, especially when done by another sysop, but it isn't my idea of showing respect; it would have been better to wait a bit longer in case I had arguments to present. I only wonder why the same level of urgency was not taken to revise the contents of the article in its original format, when it obviously needed re-working. --[[User:Unown Lord|Unown Lord]] 13:55, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

== Title Trouble ==

Uhh, guys, the title says Pseudo-legendary but the article is about powerhouses... --[[User:Manga-in-a-bottle|Manga-in-a-bottle]] 06:01, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
:It's what I was in the middle of fixing, then a million edit conflicts come up. Argh. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 06:09, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
::Oh... My bad.[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|Maniac]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|102]] 06:12, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

I tried editing it, but then edit-conflicts. Why were you doing one at a time? I could have done it in 30 seconds. :| [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]][[Image:Ani202MS.gif|32px]] 06:12, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
:There were a lot. And I wanted to get some in before there was in edit conflict[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|Maniac]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|102]] 06:14, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
::hows about we make a note the page about how some people call it "powerhouse" '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 18:52, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Uh Uh Uh I guess.[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|Maniac]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|102]] 18:55, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

== Arcanine ==
Shouldn't Arcanine be classified as a powerhouse pokemon as well? [[User:Boywonder01|'''Boy''']][[User talk:Boywonder01|'''wonder''']][[Special:Contributions/Boywonder01|'''01''']] 10:05, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
:Powerhouse. Not pseudo-legendary. There's a difference: Porygon-Z's a powerhouse, Alakazam's a powerhouse. Their base stats in Special Attack are higher than the base stats of any other non-legendary's Attack or Special Attack, but they aren't pseudo-legendary. They aren't the final forms of end-of-dex Pokémon, they're just final forms of Pokémon that do really well in Special Attack. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 10:35, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

== 600 stat point total a requirement? ==

Doesn't that seem a little subjective? I mean sure they all have that but that doesn't mean a future Pokemon of similar psuedo-legend status will have that total. Plus with these Pokemon it could just be coincidence they all have 600. Having 600 total might have been how it happened for all of them, but I just don't seem it as a ''requirement'' per se. Just that that's how it happened. Toastypk 03:34, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
:Not really. The psuedo-legends were most likely designed so that their stats WOULD total 600. The only likely exception would be Dragonite due to Special Attack/Defence being a single stat in Generation 1, but it was probably reworked to total 600 in Generation 2. It's hardly likely to be coincedence that their base stats all total 600. - [[User:Nebula|Nebula]] 16:54, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
Hmm... well I've never paid attention to stat totals anyway, just relative strengths. Toastypk

Is it worth mentioning that Tyranitar, as of gen IV, technically has a total stats of 650?? (Due to its sand stream ability and the fact that Rock types get a x1.5 boost in S.Def in a sandstorm???) I know its not its true "Base" stats as such but even so I feel it should be mentioned [[User:PhantomCX|PhantomCX]] 12:59, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

=={{p|Lucario}}==
Couldn't Lucario fit the pseudo-legendary description? [[User:Shadow1337|Shadow1337]] 23:37, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
:how? its nothing like a Pseudo in any way. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 23:42, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
::Well, for one thing pseudo-legendary ''by definition'' means false legendary. Lucario was once thought to be a legendary and has very similar stats. It even has higher stats than some of the legendaries.[[User:Shadow1337|Shadow1337]] 00:23, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
Pseudo-legendary is a term used to refer to any Pokémon that has a three-stage evolution line,
two types, as well as a base stat total of 600.
:::so, does Lucario fit any of those criteria? One. he has two-types. 1/3 doesnt cut it here. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 00:40, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
::::But if Lucario ever gets an evolution, its evolution could possibly be a pseudo-legendary. <big>[[user:chocolate|Cho]][[user talk:chocolate|col]][[special:contributions/chocolate|ate]]</big> 00:45, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::That's true.[[User:Shadow1337|Shadow1337]] 00:46, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::not that it wont ever happen, but be rational. do you think Lucario will seriously get an evo? rationally, no. therefor, it is not (currently) a Pseudo-legendary. btw Chocolate, id appreciate it if you didnt edit my comments. if i wanted it like that, id have made it like that in the first place. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 00:55, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::::What's more, speculating on whether an evolution of a Pokémon would be pseudo-legendary is hardly a good argument for calling Lucario one. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 11:21, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::::I consider Lucario a semi-legendary Pokémon. A few others i put in the group are Pokémon like Arcanine, Unown, Rotom, etc. --'''[[User:InuMimi|いぬ]][[User talk:InuMimi|みみ]]''' 23:14, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::they have legendary traits, but they are not legendaries. and far from pseudo-legendaries. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 23:20, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

::::::::::That's why I call them semi-legendaries; meaning they are kind of legendary. --'''[[User:InuMimi|いぬ]][[User talk:InuMimi|みみ]]''' 23:23, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

== [[Slaking (Pokémon)]] ==
Why is Slaking not a Psuedo? [[User:DragonTamer|DragonTamer]] 04:53, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
:Oohh, It's not dual type, [[User:DragonTamer|DragonTamer]] 04:55, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

== Inbalance ==

Too much trivia? Too little article? Can someone with experience in competitive gameplay edit it so that the trivia is not longer than the actual article? '''[[User:Optimatum|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]] 12:30, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

User talk:MAGNEDETH/new evolutions

2008-12-04T14:18:22Z

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<BIG><BIG>'''I AM NOT DOING EEVEE EVOLUTIONS.'''</BIG></BIG>

==Farfetch'd==
If anything, a Farfetch'd evo should be a Normal/Dark or Dark/Flying ninja. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 05:39, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
:i like the idea, but im not sure where you are comming from...you mean how he is very elusive and attacks with a stick like a sword? '''[[Image:Ani081MS.gif|35px]][[User:MAGNEDETH|MAGNEDETH]][[Image:Ani082MS.gif|35px]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|TA]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Riddles|RID]][[User:MAGNEDETH/new evolutions|NE]][[User:MAGNEDETH/do over|DO]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Pokemon teams|PT]][[Image:Ani462MS.gif|35px]]''' 05:45, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
::Yes, the leek would become a sword. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 06:11, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
:::i dont think parents would like that, a Pokemon with a sword? '''[[Image:Ani081MS.gif|35px]][[User:MAGNEDETH|MAGNEDETH]][[Image:Ani082MS.gif|35px]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|TA]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Riddles|RID]][[User:MAGNEDETH/new evolutions|NE]][[User:MAGNEDETH/do over|DO]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Pokemon teams|PT]][[Image:Ani462MS.gif|35px]]''' 06:14, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
:It'd be a leek that looks more like a sword. And that's no more violent than a Pokémon with boxing gloves or one that can pretty much shoot missiles. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 06:35, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
::alright, i like it, a Dark/Flying, keep the name i got, or what do you think? '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 06:39, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

:::Screw the parents, we have Scyther and is anyone going on about that? No. -[[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]] 06:41, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Ninjetch'd? It just fits. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 06:47, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

::::oooh, i like that. also, i think Mudkipchan put that comment in the wrong section.. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 06:53, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

ネギニンジ ''Negininja'' would be its Japanese name, from カモネギ ''Kamonegi''. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 07:46, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

:um.....sure? '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 07:50, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Ninjetch'd signature move could be Super Swords Dance, a move that increase its attack by 3 levels!-[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 09:18, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

:hmm, idk, thats rather absurd...there arent any moves out there that that increase any stat more than twice except for belly drum i think, and that halvs HP. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 23:43, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

::It doesn't make sense that it is the only Pokémon to have a sword but its Swords Dance is the same of the normal one.-[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 06:03, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

::Or its trigger can be: '''Level-up while holding a Learner's Sword and having Super Swords Dance'''!-[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 05:36, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

:::the only way "Super Swords Dance" would work is if it lowered somthing else. 3 levels is too much. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 05:42, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

::::OK, let's lower its Defense for 1 level!-[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 10:33, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

[[Image: Ninjetchd.JPG]] I made a sprite if you want to use it but I get credit for making the sprite.It is saved under Ninjetchd.JPG [[User:Crystallucario|CrystalLucario]] 14:09, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
:thanks, but im just going to keep with the regular sprites. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 00:41, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

==Babies==
There should be a baby Pokémon that can evolve into either Miltank and Tauros. Maybe one for the Volbeat... guys too. -[[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]] 05:41, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
:And a baby Kangaskhan would definitely be both genders, and males would become Kangaskirk. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 05:42, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
:i like the miltank/tauros idea, im not so sure about the Volbeat one (maybe thats because i dont like them) '''[[Image:Ani081MS.gif|35px]][[User:MAGNEDETH|MAGNEDETH]][[Image:Ani082MS.gif|35px]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|TA]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Riddles|RID]][[User:MAGNEDETH/new evolutions|NE]][[User:MAGNEDETH/do over|DO]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Pokemon teams|PT]][[Image:Ani462MS.gif|35px]]''' 05:45, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

::Yes to male Kangaskhan and baby, they would both solve the missing link of Kangaskhan. Why Game Freak, why must you torment us! And I don't like Volbeat too. :P -05:48, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

:::alright, a male Kahn it is, but what to name it? i like the idea of "Kirk" but that doesnt really fit the evo line name. unless i changed the baby to "Kangasroo" or somthing. '''[[Image:Ani081MS.gif|35px]][[User:MAGNEDETH|MAGNEDETH]][[Image:Ani082MS.gif|35px]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|TA]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Riddles|RID]][[User:MAGNEDETH/new evolutions|NE]][[User:MAGNEDETH/do over|DO]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Pokemon teams|PT]][[Image:Ani462MS.gif|35px]]''' 06:03, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
:You ''do'' know the reference is to Star Trek, right? Kirk was the one who said KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 06:10, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

::Kirk is also a name for a boy, of course. :P [[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]] 06:13, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

:::well, i know Kirk, and i know the Kahn line, but not everyone knows that, and it still wouldnt look right. itd be a damn good nickname though '''[[Image:Ani081MS.gif|35px]][[User:MAGNEDETH|MAGNEDETH]][[Image:Ani082MS.gif|35px]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|TA]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Riddles|RID]][[User:MAGNEDETH/new evolutions|NE]][[User:MAGNEDETH/do over|DO]][[User:MAGNEDETH/Pokemon teams|PT]][[Image:Ani462MS.gif|35px]]''' 06:14, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

:::Well, doesn't "[[Kangaskhan]]" sounds sort of like it is based off Genghis Khan (that Mongolian emipre guy??), so maybe name it after his brother/nephew/however that guy was related to him, Kublai Khan? Just putting out the idea. -[[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 16:52, 27 March 2008 (UTC) (Couldn't make a sig before big testing thing)

::::My opinion, Kangaskhan should of never been able to breed. That would of solved this whole mess. But I guess it's too late for that. --[[Image:048MS.gif]]'''[[Tracey Sketchit|ケンジ]]'''[[Image:183MS.gif]]'''[[User:Kenji-girl|ガール]]'''[[Image:123MS.gif]] 06:52, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

:::::maybe ill add that to my [[User:MAGNEDETH/do over|other page]] '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 07:04, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

::::: I object. If Kangaskhan couldn't breed, then it still wouldn't explain where the child came from in fact it would probably raise even more questions. [[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]] 07:05, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

::::::thats an even better point. i think the real prob was that they made it a female only with no male, it makes me wonder how they ever exsisted at all!! '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 07:07, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::::No the real problem is not the gender. When a Kangaskhan is born.. as soon as it comes out of the egg, it is an adult that is already bearing another kid. [[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]] 07:14, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

::::::What I meant was that the players can't breed them. Maybe Kangaskhan could have mated in secrecy. You know, the same as legendary Pokémon. We can't breed them but there's no doubt that they can mate. Just not in front of humans. There is that baby Lugia in the anime. --[[Image:Ani048MS.gif]]'''[[Tracey Sketchit|ケンジ]]'''[[Image:Ani183MS.gif]]'''[[User:Kenji-girl|ガール]]'''[[Image:Ani123MS.gif]] 07:18, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

:::::::Let the debate begin. :P Joking. Well that is possible... But the Lugias just made me go "Meh." when I first watched the episodes surrounding the two, just being honest here. But I'll give you credit that you do have a point here. But now that Game Freak has made the kanga breedable... that missing link just appeared. And before anyone asks, yes I am too lazy to use my sig. [[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]] 07:23, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

:::::::yea, im def putting that on my do over page... '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 07:21, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

== New Evolutions ==

You know, the name of the new doesn't always have to match the old. Examples of Pokémon who's names don't have much in common.

#Tyrogue = Hitmon...
#Caterpie = Metapod = Butterfree
#Ekans = Arbok
#Oddish = Gloom = Vileplume or Bellosom
#Meowth = Persian
#Geodude = Graveler = Golem
#Ponyta = Rapidash
#Magikarp = Gyrados
#Nuzleaf = Shiftry
#Wingull = Pelipper
#Ralts = Kirlia = Ga...
#Shroomish = Breloom
#Burmy = Wormadam or Mothim
#Skorupi = Drapion

So vary a little okay?{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 07:00, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

:good point, I'm just a stickler for that stuff. it always bothered me when Pokémon evolutions didn't have similar cries in the games '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 07:06, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

== Clawsir ==
One more thing i can't stand. Pinsir is a pun on Pincer. There is no such thing as a Clawcer. Only a Claw.{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 07:07, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

:i did make a note "the name needs work" that being said, what do you think? and do you like the idea of a Bug/Dark type? '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 07:10, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

::Well I love darkness. What do you think you're gonna name it? Clark? Claw and Dark. {This is not funny and is not meant to be funny){{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 07:11, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
:::wow, if it were real, "Clark" would be the best nickname ever. could go the generic route and say "Darklaw" or something '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 07:13, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
::::Hey, Crushir might be a good name.--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 22:21, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

:::::not a bad name, but i cant help but feel its a bit generic...i have since renamed it "Guiloreap", i think its still a bit to busy, thoughts? '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 23:49, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

::::::Sorry I was away, watching Saw. I like the reap part but not a big fan of the Guilo.{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 00:31, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

A Pinsir Evolution is horrible idea. It's already very strong. Don't do it. [[User:PDL|PDL]] 00:02, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
:i look at the page, and id like to re-do the stats to be more in-line with proper base stat totals. that being said, Clawsir would be more at home with an evo that simple changes things. very akin to {{p|Scyther}} and {{p|Scizor}}. different Pokemon, different stats, different types, same BST. bearing in mind, i made Clawsir ages ago. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 00:23, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

== For Gen II, III, IV ==

I think a {{p|Houndoom}} evo would be cool. Also a baby form of {{p|Absol}}. And of course a {{p|Pachirisu}} evo. Maybe it could be a flying squirrel and become Electric/Flying.

Anyway, great choices so far. Can't wait to see more --[[Image:Ani048MS.gif]]'''[[Tracey Sketchit|ケンジ]]'''[[Image:Ani183MS.gif]]'''[[User:Kenji-girl|ガール]]'''[[Image:Ani123MS.gif]] 07:08, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

:Pachirisu flying squirrel, thats a really good one, ill get one that one. as for Houndoom? idk, hes pretty awesome, ill think about it. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 07:11, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

::Throw it off a cliff LOL!! That's a good one. Have you ever thought of different Eeveelutions? --[[Image:Ani048MS.gif]]'''[[Tracey Sketchit|ケンジ]]'''[[Image:Ani183MS.gif]]'''[[User:Kenji-girl|ガール]]'''[[Image:Ani123MS.gif]] 22:23, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
::I'm all for the idea of a Pachirisu evo, but I'd prefer it to be a pure Electric-type with the Levitate ability.--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 22:34, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Also, I think that Rotom could use an evolved form. It would basically be more like Pulseman.--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 22:34, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

:why would there be a reason for Levitating Pachirisu? a flying squirrel is a real thing. as for Rotom, yea, i was thinking about it, give folks a reason to have to wait until after the E4 to get him. also, i probably wont do Eeveelutions, theres no real work involved in them, just copy and paste types and stats, and give it a generic name. Drageon, Steeleon, Toxeon, etc..'''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 23:56, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
::I don't know. I just like the idea of a pure-Electric type.--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 01:47, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

:::well, theres 20 other pure Eelctric-types, im sure almost all of them are better than Pachirisu.. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 02:06, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
::::With Levitate, it wouldn't have any weaknesses. [[Image:Ani164MS.gif]][[User:Shiny Noctowl|S<big>h</big>i<big>n</big>y]] [[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|<big>N</big>o<big>c</big>t<big>o</big>w<big>l</big>]]  02:23, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

:::::my stance on '''flying''' squirrel stands. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 02:47, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
::::::Flying squirrels don't actually fly, they just glide. [[Image:Ani164MS.gif]][[User:Shiny Noctowl|S<big>h</big>i<big>n</big>y]] [[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|<big>N</big>o<big>c</big>t<big>o</big>w<big>l</big>]]  02:52, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
:I'm for the Flying-type Pachirisu. Why? Cause. No weaknesses are just hax, man. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 02:54, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
::i agree, i dispise Sableye and Spiritomb, and thats comming from a hacker! '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 02:56, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

I perfer the pure Electric type with levitate, scince Electric/Flying is basiclly reserved for Zapdos--[[User:Quick Man|Quick Man]][[Image:Ani107MS.gif|{{{2|107}}}]] 21:09, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

:'''FLYING''' squirrel is the way it is. i know everyone wants no weakness, but too bad. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 21:14, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

== Separating the charts? ==

Why not do that, for evos and prevos? Prevos get one section, evos get another. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 07:19, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

:the idea had come to me, i suppose ill do it tomorrow, its almost 3:00AM '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 07:25, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
::Oh boy, three AM! *grabs a burger and chomps on it* '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 07:37, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
:::well, i have no idea what that was about, but i do have a full time job and i get up at 7, so, i think ill be going now....btw, thanks for cleaning up my page. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 07:43, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

== Drillix ==

How about this. Speedix could be Steel and Dark type, with Dark being the secondary type. I mean think about it, a giant metal drill that moves around on its own seems more like a dual Dark type to me. And it must learn Horn Drill of course. :P [[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]] 17:56, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
:i like the idea, but, if hes digging around underground, i think itd make more sence to be ground-type. btw, please tell me you have an idea for a better name, this one is killing me. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 17:59, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
::True that. But Pokemon can't have three typing anyhow.... and battle-wise, he would probably get a 4x weakness to Fighting if he were Steel and Dark type. :P [[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]] 18:04, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
:::I dunno. I always thought that {{p|Onix}} needed a pre-evolution. Onix is '''''WAY''''' to big to be an unevolved Pokémon. Satoshi Tajiri managed to avoid making a pre-evolution for {{p|Rhyhorn}} by giving {{p|Rhydon}} an evolution, and I'd hate for that to happen with Onix.[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 21:21, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
::::thats a really good point...hows about Speedix be an alternative to Onix? (like bellossom) '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 21:26, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
i changed the name, thoughts? '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 19:25, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

== Mawile ==

Evolve The Kucheat! And don't name it Bawile. DO NOT. Or else I will harm you. REALLY. REALLY. BADLY. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 07:38, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
:that would be terrible, and it does need an evolution '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 18:02, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
::toss me some ideas here '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 20:38, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Japanese name could be Krakcheat. English, Jaworn. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 07:52, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Oh, and don't forget: Steel/Dark plz. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 07:53, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
::::you dont mind a 4x weakness? '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 23:25, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::Not to Fighting. That's easily solved with Aerial Ace, if it can learn it. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 23:47, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
::::::t seems like everything can learn that, and because were making it up, why not?? so hows about "Jawile" '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 03:18, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Jawile, I guess. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 07:02, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::::クラチート Krakcheat. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 07:19, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Why did you name the Mawile evo "Kucheat"? That's Mawile's Japanese name. You can't use that. --[[Image:Ani048MS.gif]]'''[[Tracey Sketchit|ケンジ]]'''[[Image:Ani183MS.gif]]'''[[User:Kenji-girl|ガール]]'''[[Image:Ani123MS.gif]] 07:19, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

TTE suggested it. However, I believe it will now be changed to Jawile. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]][[Image:Ani202MS.gif|32px]] 07:41, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:I suggested merely to evolve The Kucheat. {{ani|303}} {{tt|Maw!|Meh!}} {{ani|107}} {{tt|Hitmon-chaaaaan!|Holy craaaaap!}} '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 07:48, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Yes, you did indeed say evolve The Kucheat. My mistake. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]][[Image:Ani202MS.gif|32px]] 07:51, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

:other than the hardcore fans, no one knows Mawiles name is Kucheat. i like the name, so i figured swap the american and jap names around, though, Jawile has come up as well. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 17:17, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
::Same with Sonans/Wobbuffet and Sohnano/Wynaut. "That's how it is!" and "Really?" in Japan, a wobbly thing you hit and why shouldn't you in English. Doesn't prevent me from thinking they dropped the ball. Besides, Krakcheat would come from Kraken and cheat, not kuchi and cheat. If anything, Mawile would've been better having its name the same in the US. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 00:17, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
:::So, are you suggesting that Krakcheat would be part-squid?--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 00:41, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
::::I dunno. Maybe it could have some elements... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 07:01, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::yea, im really lost here, so, lets break it down. the name for the new Mawile evo should be: Jawile, Kucheat, Krakcheat, Other. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 08:27, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
::::::Japanese: クラチート Krakcheat. English: Jawile. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 03:29, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::::ill probibly ignore the Jap names as i dont really care about them, but i cant help but think that "Jawile" is rather generic '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 22:00, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
:So do I, but it's better than Bawile. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 02:25, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
::yes it is. besides, i guess if i had one in game i could name it whatever i want. like Doody Head. but i wouldnt, because i know as soon as i did, somehow, someway, you would hunt me down and kill me. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 02:28, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

==Sableye==
There should be an evolution of Sableye if there's an evolution of Mawile! And it should have Wonder Guard. [[Image:Ani164MS.gif]][[User:Shiny Noctowl|S<big>h</big>i<big>n</big>y]] [[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|<big>N</big>o<big>c</big>t<big>o</big>w<big>l</big>]]  21:30, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
:yes to evolution, no to Wonder Guard..hehe '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 21:46, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
::Why shouldn't it have Wonder Guard? [[Image:Ani164MS.gif]][[User:Shiny Noctowl|S<big>h</big>i<big>n</big>y]] [[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|<big>N</big>o<big>c</big>t<big>o</big>w<big>l</big>]]  21:51, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
::You can see some of my other ideas [[User:Shiny Noctowl/New evolutions|here]]. [[Image:Ani164MS.gif]][[User:Shiny Noctowl|S<big>h</big>i<big>n</big>y]] [[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|<big>N</big>o<big>c</big>t<big>o</big>w<big>l</big>]]  21:53, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Didn't I already explain to you why NO Wonder Guard? Because a Dark/Ghost type Pokemon has no weakness, and one having Wonder Guard would be entirely unfair and IILEGAL in the metagame. Goodness. [[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]] 22:28, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Well, it wouldn't be invincible. All you would need is a pokemon with Foresight and a Fighting type move. Still, it would be hard. [[User:Random279|Random279]]

:i dont want to sound like a jerk, but no, its not going to happen, if it did, i would stop playing Pokemon '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 23:20, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
::Um...I agree...not necessary...despite its bad raw stats, it shouldn't have an evo/pre-evo. Same applies with {{p|Spiritomb}}. Still, it's possible to eliminate it (e.g. {{m|Sandstorm}}) [[User:Ht14|ht14]] 20:30, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

I think Foresight is completely useless in the long run, mostly because I prefer an all-out attack moveset, and why would any competetive player waste a move slot on something that's only useful against ONE type? [[User:Diachronos|Diachronos]] 16:48, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

==Breloom==

I think there should be an evolution of breloom, with less weaknesses. Just spitballing. --{{Ani|133}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|'''Darth''']]{{Ani|196}}[[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|'''Cookie''']]{{Ani|197}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster/Trade with Me|'''Monster''']]{{Ani|471}} 01:11, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
:idk, theres not much that can be done there. Breloom is a Grass/Fighting type. theres been no pokemon that gains a type, then gets rid of it. if anything, i was considering a middle evolution because Shroomish is some tiny blob with no limbs and suddenly its a full size FIGHTING type! it didnt even have arms before!! '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 06:17, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
::Never any middle-intermediate evos, and besides... why mess with it when the final product is the same...? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 07:45, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
:::so on that basis, Breloom is untouchable. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 21:53, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
::::It could have another evolution, or Shroomish could have an alternate evo. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 22:54, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::yea, i suppose, but grass types are so unuseable... '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 23:24, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

== How? ==

Thr... Thr... Throw it off a cliff!? Are you just being funny are have you gone mad?{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 23:30, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
:maybe both? '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 23:41, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

== Plusle/Minum ==

Why don't they have a baby form of Plusle/Minum. It could evolve like Tyrogue. And also, they should have an evolved form, and you have to level up Plusle with a MinusCharge, and Minum with a Plus Charge [[User:Random279|Random279]]

:i like that idea, ill think about it '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 23:22, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

::Maybe they could both evolve into the same thing? That would be a first. (like the idea of charges, they could neutralize them, further this idea of dual prevos for one evo) -[[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 17:08, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

== Kecleon ==

I think Kecleon might get an evolved form sooner or later. Aside from the fact that it's a mere novelty Pokémon, it lacks {{m|Hyper Beam}} and {{m|Giga Impact}}. The majority of Pokémon that can use those moves are fully evolved.--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 20:56, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

:He can't learn those? Certainly something I'll look into. I was also looking into a Ditto or Smeargle evo. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 23:24, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
:: Yeah, I never realized that until I was fixing up {{p|Kecleon}}'s article yesterday.--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 13:09, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

==Lunatone and Solrock==
What about a pre-evolveded forms of Lunatone and Solrock, kind of like Tyrouge, who evolves into at night or day. --{{Ani|133}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|'''Darth''']]{{Ani|196}}[[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|'''Cookie''']]{{Ani|197}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster/Trade with Me|'''Monster''']]{{Ani|471}} 23:33, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
:makes sence to me, though it seems a tad unnecesary. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 03:18, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

== Arcanine and Ninetails ==

How about Fire/Ghost type evo for {{p|Ninetales}} and a Fire/Dragon type evo for [[Arcanine]]? Since the two are based on the [[wp:Kitsune]] and [[wp:Imperial guardian lion]] respectivly [[User:Manga-in-a-bottle|Manga-in-a-bottle]] 06:47, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:The only problem: Stone evolutions never evolve. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 06:53, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
::i dont see the problem with stone evo pokemon evolving, but Arcanine being a fire/dragon type, hmm, idk. but on my do over page i said Ninetails should be a fire/ghost type. in the mean time, i dont see that as a bad thing. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 17:14, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

== Skarmory ==

I really think Skarmory needs an evolution. It has good typing, fairly good moves, but it stats just aren't good enough. It's defense stat is high, but low compared to pokemon such as Aggron, Regirock, and Cloyster. Also, it says on it's Pokedex entrythat it can go over 180mph, but it is slower than pokemon like Magikarp and Rattatta. So, it really needs a faster evolution. [[User:Random279|Random279]]

:done. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 18:41, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

I've also been thinking that Skarmory should have a prevolution.--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 21:34, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:given Skarmory's 25 catch rate, that wouldnt be a bad idea '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 08:24, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
::Oh so close. Its base stat total is 570. If it was at least 600, and you made a prevolution, it could be a Pseudo-legendary.{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 18:46, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
Then give it an evelution with more BA stats!--[[User:Quick Man|Quick Man]][[Image:Ani107MS.gif|{{{2|107}}}]] 21:00, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

:idk, it wouldnt really qualify because you can catch Skarmory in the wild '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 22:17, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

::Doh... Well since ''you'' made Jetmach, you can make it to ''not'' be able to appear in the wild.{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 22:20, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

:::technically yes, but most psuedos have rediculous attack stats and Jetmach does not. if i bumped its stats anywhere, it would be Sp. Def. even then, it would fall into the Slaking catigory. powerful, but not psuedo. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 22:24, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

::::True. Oh well. too bad...{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 22:30, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

== Dunsparce ==

You haven't thought of a name yet? I don't know if it is good or not but how bout Matrare?{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 19:00, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:whats that? mattress and rare? '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 19:01, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
::Matte and rare.{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 19:02, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
::Hello? Are you there? Are you dead?{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 19:12, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:::yea, i was rearging and modding the page. as for the name, hows about "Mattare"? i think it flows better. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 19:24, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
::::Sure. It took only an hour for me to decide between one or two "t"s anyway. It looks better without the "r" too.{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 19:25, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::I'd suggest the name "Mialoof", but a guy name lydario from Deviantart already made up a Dunsparce evo with that name.--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 21:31, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
::::::Can you cite a reference? '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 08:23, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Here[http://lydario.deviantart.com/art/MIALOOF-56195203]!--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 18:10, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Not bad. You can change if you want.{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 18:02, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
::::::::Oh MAGNEDETH would have been dead already if he was just sitting there waiting for you to answer.{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 18:12, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::It's better. Change it if you want.{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 18:58, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::well, untill i can think of another name, ill leave that there. im not stealing his name if i didnt know he created it already.. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 22:18, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

== My Ideas ==
Lapras, Ditto, Xatu, Quilfish, Heracross, Shuckle, Corsola

Do you think Lapras should have an evolution or a prevolution?{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 19:37, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:Lapras'd be good for a prevo. Not evolution, as it's great as it is. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 19:42, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
::I have the same thoughts.{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 19:44, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:::as soon as i saw "Lapras" i thought prevo. also, dont just barf text like that poke102, start a new section. make it somthing like "my ideas" '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 19:51, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

How bout Luvdisc or Chatot?{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 19:53, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

:Ditto doesn't need anything, imo.
:Qwilfish is pretty weak, so I'd think that it'd get an evo.
:Everyone in competitive battling loves Heracross. I think a prevo'd be good.
:Shuckle and prevo'd be nice. GUYS WE DON'T NEED AN EVO FOR THIS THING AND GIVE IT HAX STATS END OF STORY.
:Corsola should get both. :p
:Sableye should get an evo. Something that'd look at Spiritomb and say 'Hey, he's equal to me.' instead of 'Man I wish I was that strong.'
:Zangoose and prevo, yes, Seviper and evo, yes.
:Luvdisc and Chatot should get an evo. Luvdisc does like.. nothing good, seriously. At least I could kick ass with my Chatot.
:Just my little 2 cents. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 19:53, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
I was thinking either evos for Zangoose and Sevi, or Prevos for Zangoose and Viper. {{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 19:55, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:Dammit I had like, 5 edit conflicts on this thing. e_e [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 19:55, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:before i go any further, id like to tell Pokemaniac102 to STOP POSTING ONE THING AT A TIME! i cant reply if i keep getting edit conflicts. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 19:56, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
::Oh I finished.{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 19:57, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
::ok, i think Luvdisc shouldnt exsist in the first place '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 20:00, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Are you that heartless?{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 20:02, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
::::Luvdisc is a good idea, but Chatot isn't yet. A Shedinja prevo would be good as well. {{u|Random279}} 20:02 , 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::Shedninja already has one.{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 20:05, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::Chatot could probibly use an evo, as for Shedinja, it already has one, its called {{p|Nincada}} '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 20:07, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
::::::MY FIRST EDIT CONFLICT! Chatot is a great idea.{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 20:08, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::::I mean as in if you breed Shedinja it will hatch into this and not Nincada. This page really needs less edit conflicts. [[User:Random279|Random279]] 20:12, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
::::::::IT IS GENDERLESS!{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 20:13, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::Ditto is genderless, and you can breed that! [[User:Random279|Random279]] 20:15, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::i can breed Magnemite, the real point is that theres no reason to have a Shedinja thing '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 20:16, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

== Random ==
There should be a Bug/Ice type evo, or maybe a Bug/Electric. [[User:Random279|Random279]] 20:31, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:well, i was thinking Voltbeat and Illunice, or something to that effect. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 20:35, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
::I would've thought that Volbeat and Illumise would have evos that were Bug/Electric and Bug/Fire respectively.--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 21:34, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Actually I was thinking Volbeat has an evo with Bug/Fire and Illumise an evo with Bug/Ice. But, I'll stop placing comments here if it keeps bothering MAGNEDETH.{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 03:40, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
::::no, its fine, i was just getting annoyed when 4 people are editing and i get conflicts. as for the Pokemon, well, they are LIGHTNING bugs, arent they? '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 08:25, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

== Misdreavus/Murkrow ==

Misdreavus and Murkrow need a pre evelution, They got weaker with their new evelutions Mismagius and Honchkrow, Repectfully. Murkow aire my favorite Flying type Pokémon and I just didn't like the fact they got weaker. Misdreavus has the best attack in Pokémon (Pain split) and is exclusive to that family without sketch/Breeding and Mismagius is just creepy, so I think that is why Misdreavus needs a pre Evelution, so it isn't as weak to that creepy excuse for a pokémon!--[[User:Quick Man|Quick Man]][[Image:Ani107MS.gif|{{{2|107}}}]] 21:39, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

NO They both are already too weak.{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 21:41, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
:Weaker? Wha? Honchkrow is more powerful that Murkrow. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 03:31, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
::...uh. Anything that got an evo, imo, doesn't need a prevo.
::Also, creepy isn't a good excuse for a prevo. At all. >_> [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 03:33, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Anything that JUST got an evo needs no prevo. Wait a couple gens. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 04:02, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
Mismagius makes Misdreavus usable, and Honchkrow is incredibly powerful. yea, his defence sucks, but his attack is 125!! '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 22:21, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
::::I personally consider 120+ in any stat excellent, especially in Attack or Special Attack. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 10:26, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

== Luvdisc ==

Why shouldn't Luvdisc get an evo. It is nearly as pathetic as it gets.{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 22:33, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

:Luvdisk is getting an evo, and im quite happy with it, just give me time to post it, ive been incredibly busy recently. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 04:18, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

== Eules and Hikorisu ==

You don't mind if I use them on [[User:TTEchidna/New evolutions|my own new evo page]], do you? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 10:24, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

:go for it '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 04:19, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

== Choking and Notyp ==

I think weezing should have a new evolution that is both poison and dark, It could evolve by dusk stone and maybe be called Hakking. It would have a much greater movepool if it was half dark. (Sorry, I did not mean to put it on here twice!!)[[User:Moldy orange|Moldy orange]] 18:11 10 January 2008

Hakking? That's a name I came up with for a Koffing pre-evo! --
''[[Glitch Pokémon|Glitch]] and [[Pokémon|Official]] Pokémon. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|should be considered equal]]!-- quoted by {{u|Missingno. Master}}
 02:04, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

: I made a Hakking too! It evolved from [[James's Weezing]] along with [[Jessie's Arbok]] becoming Nohtyp. [[User:Zurqoxn|Zurqoxn]] 03:27, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

:hmmm, Weezing evo, makes sence to me, while were at it, lets give Arbok one too. maybe they could return to the anime for jessie and james!! '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 04:20, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

alright, im sure people wont be happy with Choking getting arms and legs. as for not using "Hakking" i decided it was too close to "hacking" as in cheating. as for "Nohtyp", i dont want to sound like a jerk, but i cant give you credit for it because while creating it myself, i gave it the same name. i didnt know you had also called it that untill i came here to post this that im typing right now. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 06:04, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

:I always envisaged a Poison/Ice Weezing evo... Sneezing... -- [[User:The dark lord trombonator|SeriousDom]] 08:32, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
::HA! i like the idea, very creative, but it doesnt really fit in with the Wheezing evo-line, especially now that i already gave him a new evo. besides, it would probibly look too much like Glalie. though, it does give me a hankrin for more odd duel-types. Poison/Ice, thats a new one, isnt it? -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 23:50, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

== Ringust ==

yes i know [[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] already has a Chimecho evolution on his page, but i thought of this a few days ago, i just didnt get around to it untill now. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 05:35, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

== About the Onix evo ==

Pokémon can't hold two items at the same time. --[[Image:Ani048MS.gif]]'''[[Tracey Sketchit|ケンジ]]'''[[Image:Ani183MS.gif]]'''[[User:Kenji-girl|ガール]]'''[[Image:Ani123MS.gif]] 00:57, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

:oops, fixed. sucks because that sounded good too...do you like the "Super Quick Claw"? '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 01:03, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

:Hell yeah! XD. It'd be cool if that item's battle effect was to guarantee a first strike every single time. --[[Image:Ani048MS.gif]]'''[[Tracey Sketchit|ケンジ]]'''[[Image:Ani183MS.gif]]'''[[User:Kenji-girl|ガール]]'''[[Image:Ani123MS.gif]] 01:07, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
:well, now yur just talking hax. but i figure, more effective version of the Quick Claw, as in, works twice as often. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 01:09, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

== Suudsu ==

It's gummi bears and milk in the same glass. That's The Che-- I mean, the Kucheat's favorite drink. ;) [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 01:23, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
:thats disgusting, but thanks for telling me '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 01:28, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
::Skim milk. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 05:59, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
:::i dont like skim milk, but, thats prefrence i guess '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 22:57, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

== Chemical Plant ==

Level up near chemical plant?!

Spiderman, Spiderman, does whatever a spider can....

Maybe Ariados bit spiderman? --{{Ani|133}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|'''Darth''']]{{Ani|196}}[[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|'''Cookie''']]{{Ani|197}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster/Trade with Me|'''Monster''']]{{Ani|471}} 01:56, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

:well, he could i suppose, but Spiderman was via radioactive spider bite. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 02:07, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

I know (GAH) just found the similarity humorous :) why not call him arachna dude? Thank you Nuklear power!--{{Ani|133}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|'''Darth''']]{{Ani|196}}[[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|'''Cookie''']]{{Ani|197}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster/Trade with Me|'''Monster''']]{{Ani|471}} 02:11, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

:well, his name is "Arantula" as in "arachnid" and "tarantula" '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 02:14, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

you should include a chemical name in their. Just spitballin --{{Ani|133}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|'''Darth''']]{{Ani|196}}[[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|'''Cookie''']]{{Ani|197}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster/Trade with Me|'''Monster''']]{{Ani|471}} 02:15, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

:hmmm, Mercantula, Mercury and Tarantula. it just doesnt work as well.. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 02:17, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

how about Vanatula= Vanadium+Tarantula

It may not be poisinous (I think) but it was discovered, then incorrectly declared not an elemant (you know, maybe it was declared a shiny ariados, or something) --{{Ani|133}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|'''Darth''']]{{Ani|196}}[[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|'''Cookie''']]{{Ani|197}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster/Trade with Me|'''Monster''']]{{Ani|471}} 22:12, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
:giving it an elemental name doesnt really fit. chemicals and elements arent really similar...i could say that maybe the Steel Factory produces lots of waste which attracts poison pokemon. or maybe, a ladfill? '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 22:59, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

== Problem with Ariados and also evolutions. ==

Arantula is ALREADY a Paper Mario 2-enemy. There can't be a pokémon with the same name as a Mario enemy? 
BTW, I got some good evolutions:

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[[User:Arend|Arend]]

youve got some good ideas, why not create your own page and post them? '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 00:08, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

== Long time since an addition ==

Haven't been here in a long time. Stopping to smell the roses. *breathing in and coughing* Good Night {{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 03:17, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:yea, ive been rather busy. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 03:39, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
::Finally...{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 18:07, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
:::yea, just some quick ones that came to me. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 19:02, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
::::I see{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 19:14, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

== Shuckle/Ditto!! ==
{{p|Shuckle}}? I don't know why, but he has been around a while, and no one really knows about him. Despite your "dislike for tanks" (yes, i read your hate page, but still, i think that he deserves a little consideration!!), I think that he should get a ''little'' recognition!

Ditto deserves an evo!!! It's been around since Gen one, and IT CAN STIL ONLY LEARN ONE MOVE!!! c'mon, he deserves ''SOMETHING'' better, right? someone agree with me ''please'' -[[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 03:01, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
:Essentially all a Ditto evo would and should be is a bigger blob with higher defenses and Speed. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:43, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
:shuckle cant evolve because hes already a super tank. what more could he have? as for Ditto, its really not worth it. TTE is right. just more blob and slightly better stats. no one would use it for anything but breeding anyway. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 01:06, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Well, if Ditto learned some moves, he could at least be ''used''. Seriously, who have you seen that uses a Ditto for battles? As for Shuckle, if his def was lowered, atk raised, mayb he would be..(for lack of a better word) better? see my customs page (after we can use userpages again) for a kind of cool idea i had for him. -[[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 02:13, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
::::well, you have to realize, Ditto is solely a copy pokemon. it copies the opponent. thus the name, Ditto. as for Shuckle, its specifically designed as a tank. and thats it. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 03:09, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::And you can make an evolved form that is a more complex tank'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|{{Color|FF0000|Po}}{{Color|FFFF00|ke}}]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|{{Color|00FF00|Ma}}{{Color|00FFFF|ni}}{{Color|0000FF|ac}}]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|{{Color|FF00FF|102}}]]''' 23:53, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
::::::you go right ahead. i do not endorse the usage of Tanks. i can say that the only thing Shuckle needs is more HP, but that would just make me hate him more. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 00:17, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
:::::::wow, how pkmnist of you'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|{{Color|FF0000|Po}}{{Color|FFFF00|ke}}]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|{{Color|00FF00|Ma}}{{Color|00FFFF|ni}}{{Color|0000FF|ac}}]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|{{Color|FF00FF|102}}]]''' 00:33, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
::::::::is that a pun of "racist" ? -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 01:35, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

== Skarmory Evo ==

Can not happen. If nintendo was to create a Skarmory Evo, then he would be the bewst pokemon ever created, because the common set for him is Spikes, and Whirlwind, killing everything slower than him. If you increase his speed so he is RIDICIOUSLY FAST!!!! then his evo can outrun everything, leaving them fully open to unstoppable Whirlwinds+Spikes[[User:Darth Cookie Monster]] 21:33, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
:Better it than Garchomp... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:04, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
::im not 100% sure, but you cant Whirlwind a Magnezone with Magnet Pull, and in turn, you could destroy Skarmory with one Thunderbolt. if it does NOT effect it, then even so, the turn Skarmory uses spikes would be offset by some delicious Thunderbolt. that or we could just take away spikes from Skarmory. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 00:08, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
:::Ahh, but having one evolution that is able to kill him would be absoluletly useless, espically if the evo can learn ANY GROUND MOVE[[User:Darth Cookie Monster]] 00:52, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
::::well, Skarmory/Jetmach should not be allowed to learn ground attacks, nor spikes. in reality, im not sure where the problem lies as far as Skarmory is concerned, its much slower than most other competitive pokemon. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 00:56, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
:::::Yes, but your evo makes it faster. That is my problem[[User:Darth Cookie Monster]] 01:06, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
::::::then ill give it a new ability. "Mach 1" - Increases high speed attacks 20% (like quick attack), but disables the use of ground-type attacks. actually, that sounds like pretty cool ability. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 01:17, 27 April 2008
::::::::See, that makes sense[[User:Darth Cookie Monster]] 01:18, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::I have a problem with that. Ever hear of [[Ninjask (Pokémon)]]? [[User:ShinyPikachu]]
::::::::::yes i have. whats the problem? -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 22:05, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::{{m|Skill Swap}}. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:32, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
:Personally I would make it lose stats in everything, to make up for the gain in speed. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 07:51, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

== Chimecho evo ==

U said that it should be part Flying, but don't u mean Steel?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 04:10, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

== Heracross and Pinsir Evo/Pre-evo ==
I reckon an evolution or pre-evolution that links Heracross and Pinsir together. You know like a larva form of the two or something. Also instead of always having Eevee evolutions why can't Nintendo chuck in a Eevee preevolution? [[User:Big Johnno|Big Johnno]] 18:20, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

== Persian's Evolution ==

It doesn't look like you have a name for this yet, so how about doing something related to "yowl?" Like Meowth has "meow" and Persian has "purr" (even though it's more related to Persians), so this new evolution can have "yowl!" Also, cats yowl when they seem to want something now, so we could have this Pokémon act impatient and snobby, I guess. :o Another option for a name would be Siamese, or something related to that, to go with the Persian theme. But it doesn't seem very Pokémon-like, so.. Anyways, those are my suggestions! - [[User:SpontaneousCombusken|spontaneous'''Combusken''']] 04:06, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
:well, i cant edit it, but ive been thinking about "Hissker" like "Hiss" and whisker". -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 04:28, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

==Onix and Misdreavuse Prevos==
In my opinion, something that big can't hatch from an egg. So Onix needs a prevo. Misdreavus could have Weeyitch: a baby witch. [[User:Strong Intelligent|Strong Intelligent]] 07:07, 09 August 2008 (UTC)
:baby onix? yea, its on my list. baby Mismagius? not really necessary. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 20:30, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

== Tauros and Miltank ==

I think a new pre-evo for tauros and miltnk would be ausome(cant spell), and it could de called caftle(t is silent)ShinyPiKa 16:07, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
:yea, TTE beat me to it. i might have to borrow his. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 20:34, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

== Unknown evo ==

I think that there should be a unknown evo that's like a swarm of unknown with high Sp. atk
and the ability [[Levitate]] that you get by having a full team of unknown (of different letters/forms)and leveling up the lead one in the place at Solaceon town that you get them.
You'd lose the other five, but unknown are crap, so...--[[User:Shard1697|Shard1697]] 04:25, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
:i actually have a paper with ideas that i wrote during the user space ban. an Unown evo is on there, but, not to the same process as what you said, but, not a bad idea how you go. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 23:53, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

== New Porygon? ==

I hope I'm not bugging you, I just wanted to suggest another Porygon evo. The only reason being that he is so cool. That's it really... [[User:The Dark Fiddler|Rawr I say!]] 00:07, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
:Porygon is cool, but, he already has a 3 stage evo and his stats are very useful. he doesnt really need a new evolution. but, [[User:Pokencyclopedia/new evolutions|Pokencyclopedia]] gave him one. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 00:22, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
::Level 50, my Porygon-Z has over 200 Sp. Attack. Unless there's an alternate evolution that focuses on regular Attack instead of Sp. Attack, I see no point in "improving" any of the Porygons (more Sp. Defense on Porygon-Z is the only thing I can think of that would actually be a noticeable improvement). [[User:Diachronos|Diachronos]] 17:08, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

== Magcargo ==

You could make the new name 'Magcannon'. --[[User:RexRacer|Rex]][[User talk:RexRacer|Racer]] 05:33, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
:i dont foresee an armor clad Magcargo donning a cannon. thats a little to close to Magmortar anyway. but, that is a really cool name. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 00:12, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

== Luvdisc and Vigoroth evo ideas. ==

I have this idea for a Luvdisc evolution, based on Cupid's love arrow. It'd be called either Arrodisc or Cupidisc. It'd look like Luvdisc, except that its mouth part would be longer and pointy, like an arrow, and it'd have a tail growing out of its back, with a smaller heart on the end. It'd be Water/Flying, or else Water w/Levitate, and have good Attack and Speed. I mean, face it, Luvdisc needs an evolution. And as for Vigoroth, it's always kind of a letdown when your Vigoroth evolves into Slaking and regains Truant, right? So this Vigoroth evolution goes the other way and makes Vigoroth even MORE hyper. Hyperoth is the best I can come up with, namewise. It would have the classification Caffeine Pokémon, and would be able to learn Bullet Punch and Explosion. To get it, you must have your Vigoroth drink coffee. [[User:Missingno. Master/New Pokémon Ideas|This page]] has those ideas and more, and you're welcome to add any of them to your page. Provided you credit me, of course. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 01:14, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
:Luvdisc really could use an evo...not bad ideas, but, you have them on your page, no real reason for my to carry them, they are your ideas! -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 01:47, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

== Arcanine & Ninetails ==

Give Arcanine a Fire/Dragon evo and Ninetails a Fire/Ghost evo :D --[[User:Manga-in-a-bottle|Manga-in-a-bottle]] 10:50, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
:as ive said before, on this page, Arcanine and Ninetales both have stats that dont entirely allow them to evolve. they would be in a league with the [[pseudo-legendaries]]. furthermore, itd be nearly impossible to make Arcanine a dragon. hes a dog! ok, maybe it would be possible, but still. im not going to do that. as for Ninetales, i answer that question on my [[User:MAGNEDETH/do over|other page]]. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 23:16, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
::Uh, yeah, funny story -- aparently this page is so big, and I am so dumb, that I completely forgort I already made that suggestion... ^_^; --[[User:Manga-in-a-bottle|Manga-in-a-bottle]] 10:40, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

I actually came here to suggest a {{p|Ninetales}} Fire/Ghost evolution. The following base stats put it at 554 total, just below {{p|Arcanine}} (555) (Arcanine gained 39 more points than Ninetales in generation 2, and it has a total of 50 stats more). It gains slightly in attack, loses slightly in special attack, and loses points in SpDef for points in Defense. It also gains in HP. The main points should be that its speed goes up, its stats end in 9's, and its total stats get to 554 (largest under 555 that can leave it with all 9's). The Attacks and Defenses can be swapped, but the attacks should not be too high and should probably be balanced, since a generic sweeper isn't what I think it should be. Huh, I'm putting way too much work in fan-made stuff.
{{BaseStats|
HP=89 |
Attack=79 |
Defense=89 |
SpAtk=79 |
SpDef=89 |
Speed=129 }}
--[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 06:10, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

== A general idea ==

Okay, I have another idea, and again, hope I'm not bothering you. Instead of a branching evo, how about a converging evo. (As in, both Pokémon A and B evolve into Pokémon C). Also, perhaps a Slowpoke evo for Shelder biting the body. I can imagine an armor clad Slowpoke... [[User:The Dark Fiddler|Rawr I say!]] 23:31, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
:no one bothers me unless they ignore what i say. as for a meging evo? ambitious idea, but, youve got some big problems. which nature would it accept? IVs? EVs? what if they came from two different trainers? who gets the OT and ID? besides, the slowpoke evos are all Water/Psychic. ironically, youve given me the idea of a fast Slowpoke. Fastpoke of the sorts. nah, thats stupid. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 23:36, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
::Well, I didn;t mean that they fuse, I just meant that they shared a form... but that Fastpoke isn't stupid... it seems cool actually... yeah, I can see it... instead of a night, when Sheldar bites the body, it becomes a sleek fighter... Cool... [[User:The Dark Fiddler|Rawr I say!]] 23:53, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
==WOBBUFFET!==
A Wobbuffet evolution, obtained by maxing out Wobbuffet's Toughness condition and leveling it up (like evolving a Feebas into a Milotic by maxing out the Beauty condition), that has extremely high Attack/Special Attack and learns powerful attacks (particularly moves like Double-Edge and Head Smash). Wobbuffet got sick of sitting there using only Counter/Mirror Coat, and it finally snapped. The only name I can think of right now is Wobbevenge (I know, not very good). [[User:Diachronos|Diachronos]] 16:56, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

==Ghost Eeveelution==
Ummm... Hi. I just thought up a Ghost-type Eeveelution- Spectreon (''specter'' and, of course, ''eon''). Think that would be cool? But it SHOULD NOT be another all-out defense thing like Umbreon (and I'll take care of its design and all). [[User:Palkiajosh|Palkiajosh]] 20:36, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
:not bad. but im not really interested in Eeveelutions, sorry. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 20:49, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

== Lapras baby form ==

Should be "Oiler". The name "Euler" is pronounced that way, and besides, you can make it Ice/Poison or Water/Poison, giving Lapras some poison moves (like Acid Armor, Gastro Acid, and Toxic Spikes). --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 08:52, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
:what would be the point of taking a Water/Poison and evolving it ''into'' a Water/Ice? -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 18:49, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
::Well, the name works, and usually the gameplay purpose of babies is to introduce new attacks into the species' skillset. --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 23:06, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

== Hello? ==

Hello?? What's the Pokémon most known for evolving? **cough** EEVEE!!! What I would want out of my Eevee would be a Flying or Ghost type. Just saying. --[[User:Dialgarules|'''Dialga''']][[User_talk:Dialgarules|'''RULES''']] 23:50, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
:Well, so far Eevee has been all the types that were considered Special in previous Generations, except Dragon. In my opinion, I think it's safe to say that they'll make a Dragon-type next, but I doubt Flying or Ghost.--[[User:Blazevoir|Blaz]][[User talk:Blazevoir|evoir]][[Special:Contributions/Blazevoir|<span style="color:#{{{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|0=???|1=Normal|2=Fighting|3=Flying|4=Poison|5=Ground|6=Rock|7=Bug|8=Ghost|9=Steel|10=Fire|11=Water|12=Grass|13=Electric|14=Psychic|15=Ice|16=Dragon|17=Dark|Black}} color}}">!!]] 00:12, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
::twice on this page i state '''i am not doing Eeveelutions.''' hell, only two sections above this is state it. its too easy, and im more into giving Pokemon that NEED an evo, or Pokemon that have unique type potentiality. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 03:02, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

== Kricketune and Chansey ==

Hmmm....just a possibility...{{p|Kricketune}}'s evo...although highly unlikely in the actual Gen V....or maybe the {{tt|doctor version|male}} for {{p|Chansey}}.... [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 02:42, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
:Ktune falls into a crappy category. meh. and im not sure where to take a male Chansey evo except make it a physical wall, but given my extreme hatred of walls, and the Chansey evo line altogether, i dont see that happening. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 03:08, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
::Ok....Sneasel pre-evo? Or Aerodactyl evo/pre-evo? [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 03:13, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

== Shuckle and Smeargle ==

Shuckle and Smeargle could evolve in to cool Pokémon. Sorry If this is not enuth I will add to it.[[User:Random Chaos|Random Chaos]] 14:34, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
:Shuckle has the highest stat of any pokemon. EVER. no evolution[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((Shut the **** up]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]

OK then but A Stone evolved Smeargle that exchanges luring new attacks for good stats would be awesome. also I got a Azumarill evo that you might like. [[User:Random Chaos|Random Chaos]] 03:20, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

== New Eeveelution ==

What about a Dragon-Type . I Call it Draconeon XD. Why :Dragon remains the only special type to have an Eeveelution. -[[User:Pokemon94|Pokemon94]] 05:33, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
:'''no.''' sorry, but thats the '''fourth''' time ive shot down eeveelutions. im not doing one. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 05:39, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
::But why ?[[User:Pokemon94|Pokemon94]] 23:56, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
:::because i dont care about Eevee. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 00:19, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

== Solrock and Lunatone! ==

I don't know, a pre-ev... *cowering in fear* Please don't hurt me... You should call the baby Kangaskhan "Kangaskhid" --[[User:Dialgarules|'''Dialga''']][[User talk:Dialgarules|'''RULES''']] 00:05, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
:i actually meant to do a prevo of the rocks. just never got around to it. someone else did it too. as for Kanghaskid, yea, i had that idea, i just sort of felt it was a bit clique or something. i wanted something unique. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 00:23, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

== PCX's Ideas ==

'''Lapras - Lapratank''' (Water/Ice) - Evolves via Deep Sea Shell
Description - Basically its a Lapras but built bigger and with more armour than just its shell (Huge Def & S.Def stats)

'''Kricketune - Krickablaze''' (Bug / Fire) - Evolves when levelled up in volcano (if there is one??)
Description - Cross between an ant and a cricket (Similar stats to Syther but as a special attacker)

'''Seviper - Sevniper / Sevlicer''' - Split evo for att based and s.att - Evolves same as Hitmonlee/chan only, again, based on whether Seviper has a higher s.att or att

'''Sevniper''' (Poison / Dark Type) - Evolves S.Att > Att whilst holding Dark Tail
Description - Mean looking snake with single eye, coloured like army desert camouflage (High s.att & def)

'''Sevlicer''' (Poison / Dark Type) - Evolves S.Att < Att whilst holding Dark Tail
Description - Mean looking snake with a horn coming from the top of its head, coloured like army city camouflage (High attack & def)

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Thank you, and have a good time editing here! --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 09:34, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

== Hey Sailor ==

Wow, I couldn't even recognize u. I kept wondering who Guardian was, but I still saw ur Sailor Earth sig, so I was expecting Sailor Earth to show up in recent changes. I clicked on Guardian's talkpage, and that's when I remembered about the Name Switch bc SE was screwy. So... HELLO AGAIN!--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 22:46, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome back, I suppose today is my re-birthday on Bulbapedia. Also the new email address is maxieguardian@googlemail.com so if you could send your fanfic to it so I can read it as Frazer took the other ones back as he needed them for work. But that address is my own one created by me so you can use that one. Thankyou for your time. [[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 22:52, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

OK, I switched Emails and invited u to chat. I've added a lot to YHABTO and the BFDETR preview, but still not done with the first one. In fact, admittedly, I'm working on a few PPG/Pokémon crossovers. I'll send them 2 u now.--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 23:01, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

== Projects ==

I thought a good way to contribute to Bulbapedia would be to join some project so I did. :) Thankyou for your time. [[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 14:42, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

{{User Project Anime}}
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== template ==

<nowiki>{{subst:User:Shiningpikablu252/TPCD}}</nowiki> ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 19:47, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Moldy. Thankyou for your time. [[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 09:33, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

== Hi ==

Promise to b on about 5:00 EST?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 11:37, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

==Please==
Slow down on editing the User Space. Editing the User Space too much will lead to it being locked again. Instead of doing 10 Small edits, why not use preview to check your edits before you save. Thank you. --[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|DCM]] 12:09, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Are you having a laugh, that comment was totally un-necessary, ive done 3 edits in total. And at the time of you writing that message it was only 2. So shut up. I have been using the preview button thats how I got so much on in one edit. And DCM dont carry on yesterdays argument from IPGL onto Bulbapedia or I will report you for harrasing. Thankyou for your time. [[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 12:16, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
:Im not, you made alot of pages.Are they really neccesary? Why not two pages with one of the others merged into the other[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|DCM]]

2 extra pages is not a lot of pages. Thankyou for your time. [[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 12:23, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

== Patrol ==

Ok, if DCM can do it so can I.

{{User Patrol}}

p.s I think he was joking in the above. Ive only made 3 edits to the userspace and am stopping till tomorow. Thankyou for your time. [[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 12:22, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
:If you want to then if someone adds an edit with a difference of +2000 then warn them, or three in a row[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|DCM]]

If they do an edit thats +2000 doesnt that mean they are using the preview button. Ok, time to get back on patrol. Thankyou for your time. [[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 12:26, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
:WAIT! I didnt think this through.Ignore the edit over +2000 thing, because they probably used preview.Just look for multiple messages in a row[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|DCM]] 12:29, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

I was going to ignore you anyway, LOL. Only joking Thankyou for your time. [[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 12:30, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

I am warning them once they make OVER 3 edits. And if they carry on I'll warn them at 5 and if they carry on then report them to higher authority.

==Respond on Userpage editing==
Hey Guardian, I fully understand about the editing, but there is no reason to warm me, since I'm adding things which I first did not think of, there for even though I preview it, there is no change, I use the preview button all the time to check if I have made typo's or such. I'm just adding stuff. Kind regards. [[User:Kilik|Kilik]] 13:12, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

YES but it was the constant adding of stuff to the userspace that got it banned in the first place. Try to limit your number of edits, you didnt add anything that couldnt have waited until tomorow. You've got to be patient like the rest of us. I have made 3 edits today, Ive already found more stuff I can add but, I am waiting till tomorow as I dont want to flood the recent changes with edits to my userspace and want to get back to contributing to the main space.

If you carrry on addding loads then the admins will take away the userspace again and everyone sufffers then. Thankyou for your time. [[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 13:16, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

:Is that such a big thing.. those 8 contributions? for my userpage? gosh... oh well, I don't want the blocking on my name, so yes I will shut myself down for today, anyhow respond on my talk page, easier to know when I get my respond. [[User:Kilik|Kilik]] 13:49, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
::Yes I understand your opinion and your points, and the reason why I respond like this is that I'm simply not used to this kind of editing, anyhow I'll try to get myself as quiet as possible. [[User:Kilik|Kilik]] 14:01, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
:::It is a big thing because if the 15000 users make 8 edits each...the server will crash. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 15:54, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
::::It wasnt me who said that mo it was kilik Thankyou for your time. [[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 15:55, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

== Flavor Text ==
I appreciate your assistance, but could you specify which pages you are adding to so I can add to the ones you are not? Thank you.Paperfairy [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:Paperfairy ☆] [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Special:Contributions/Paperfairy ・] 15:38, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
:I've finished now. I was just doing the abilities that my Pokémon had. Thankyou for your time. [[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 15:42, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

== The Userspace ==

Just because the Userspace is back (for a week) does not mean Users can abuse it with fanfics and missions anymore. Those are the reasons, along with editing it too much, that the Userspace was banned in the first place. There are sites devoted for that kind of content...may I direct your attention towards the Bulbagarden Library: [http://library.bulbagarden.net/] or, until the library is working again, fanfiction.net: [http://www.fanfiction.net/]. Please consider these options. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 22:41, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
:Im sure we are allowed fanfics, it said on the Message from the editer no games or missions. And that we are allowed sub-pages, just to keep the number of edits down. As long as I dont make too many edits its fine isnt it? Some users have like 38 subpages, Im asking for only 2, one for my ingame character and one for my fanfic, plus there won't be many edits to the fanfic as I update it chapter by chapter, and haven't even started chapter 2 yet. It doesn't really cause harm does it? Thankyou for your time. [[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 22:50, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
::Ask TTE, he was the one who told me to yell at people writing fanfics in the Userspace while there are better places for them. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 22:52, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
:::I know it wasn't your fault. Huh, and when you look at all the crap he has got in his userspace. I'll ask him. He doesn't seem to do too well when confronted when he knows he is in the wrong, like what I saw when he argued with DCM and PZ. Thankyou for your time. [[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 22:55, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
::::He's not in the wrong...most of his Userspace pages were made to eventually be moved to mainspace in order to help bulbapedia. Fanfics, missions, riddles, games, etc. don't do that. They are just there wasting time and server ability. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 22:58, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::Porygon-Z or DCM already blew a wide hole in that theory. Anyway im going to ask him, about the whole userspace in general as there seems to be confusion from everywhere about 65% of users, like "how many edits before its too many," "how many subpages," "what are we allowed,". Its not really been defined. Theres been a rough explaination, but nothing definate. I suppose its cause their testing to see what we do to the userspace untamed and after the week is up then they'll probably set the rules/restrictions based on what the effects have been to contributions to the mainspace and the server. Like I know my contributions to the main space have shot up after yesterday as I was so happy to finally be able to make my userpage, it motivated me to contribute a lot back. I think its fair trade off that if users are contributing to Zhen's encyclopedia for free we should get some webspace in return. But thats just an idea. Thankyou for your time. [[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 23:05, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

== I Had An Idea==

I just got an idea for an alternate sprite I've messaged Tavis for: [[Natasha]]'s Electrode watermelon! What do you think of it?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 20:01, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
:Yeah, im a big supporter of alternate sprites, thats a great one. Thankyou for your time. [[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 20:06, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

So, are we basically out of Alternate sprite ideas after this? Oh and I just realized a reason for the alt sprtes (even though the argument is over: In-game Accessories!--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 20:11, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

== Trade ==

Do you have a ho-oh, since you have gold version?--[[User:Diamaster|Dia]][[User talk:Diamaster|master]] 20:08, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
:Yeah. Thankyou for your time. [[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 20:08, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
::Time for what?--[[User:Diamaster|Dia]][[User talk:Diamaster|master]] 20:09, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
:::Oh, thats in my sig, so it comes out whenever i leave a message so it will appear after this. Thankyou for your time. [[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 20:10, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
::::Oh. Would you be willing to trade your Ho-oh for my Shiny Staraptor, Dialga, Gible, Gabite, Garchomp, or Noctowl?--[[User:Diamaster|Dia]][[User talk:Diamaster|master]] 20:12, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::Its on Gold so unless you live extremely close to me we cant trade. Sorry --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 20:14, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::Do you have a Mew or Shaymin?--[[User:Diamaster|Dia]][[User talk:Diamaster|master]] 20:15, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::I'll give you what ever you want, do you mind if its from Action Replay. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 20:18, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
::::No I don't mind. Thanks! Do you want a Shiny Dialga?--[[User:Diamaster|Dia]][[User talk:Diamaster|master]] 20:21, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
:::Is it legit? --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 20:23, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
::Yes! I swear It's Legit.--[[User:Diamaster|Dia]][[User talk:Diamaster|master]] 20:24, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
:Keep it then, its really rare and special, keep it for yourself, ill give you shaymin for free. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 20:29, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
I have two. So I can still give you my Shiny Dialga.--[[User:Diamaster|Dia]][[User talk:Diamaster|master]] 20:31, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
:No way you have 2 legit shiny Dialgas. Anyway if you want to give one away fine, just give me a few mins to make the Shaymin. So what Gender do you want, do you want Shiny, what personality, what 4 moves and what ability. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 20:36, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
::You know how to connect to Wifi Right?--[[User:Diamaster|Dia]][[User talk:Diamaster|master]] 20:33, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
:::Yes, of course!!! --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 20:36, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
::::Alright I'm there.--[[User:Diamaster|Dia]][[User talk:Diamaster|master]] 20:36, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::So what Gender do you want, do you want Shiny, what personality, what 4 moves and what ability. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 20:39, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::I want it shiny and I don't care about the rest.--[[User:Diamaster|Dia]][[User talk:Diamaster|master]] 20:40, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
::::: Don't I need your friend code in order to connect to each other?--[[User:Diamaster|Dia]][[User talk:Diamaster|master]] 20:42, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
::::Diamster, yes. ::Action Replay? Hey, Max, do you think you can help me get a Ho-Oh and Celebi?...and check out my new alternative sprites.--[[User:Taviource|☆Tavis]][[User talk:Taviource|ource]] 20:44, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
:::Tavis, id do anything for you, your awesome. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 20:48, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
::::Hello?--[[User:Diamaster|Dia]][[User
talk:Diamaster|master]] 20:50, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::Aren't you giving me a shaymin?--[[User:Diamaster|Dia]][[User talk:Diamaster|master]] 20:51, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
:Thanks. You too! Finish the trade with Diamaster first, then you can help me...Oh and btw, we need your friend code.--[[User:Taviource|☆Tavis]][[User talk:Taviource|ource]] 20:52, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
:They take a while to create, im just adding the shaymin to my game. my code is 0n Pearl 0345-0815-6626, the names Jen as it was my cousins b4 she gave it to me. I tried to give you some nice surprises with the shaymin I packed everything i could. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 20:57, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
k, ive got your code, ready to trade. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 21:00, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
:My code is, 1719 1870 1832.--[[User:Diamaster|Dia]][[User talk:Diamaster|master]] 21:01, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
Ive got it, im ready im in the wifi room now. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 21:01, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
:Thanks Really much!!!--[[User:Diamaster|Dia]][[User talk:Diamaster|master]] 21:03, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
::Have you seen what I gave it, its shiny, has a masterball, wonderguard as an ability, Ivs are all at 31 and Evs are all at 255. Plus i gave it a good moveset but you werent too specific bout what you wanted. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 21:08, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
:::My PC box AND Party is 100% full, so I hope you don't mind me trading you Tauros.--[[User:Taviource|☆Tavis]][[User talk:Taviource|ource]] 21:06, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
::::Tavis give me a list of everything you want, every bit of info about the Poke. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 21:08, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
:THanks. I want a Ho-Oh with Sacred fire, fire blast, and Sky attack and Celebi with leaf storm and magical leaf, both on Lv 99, please. Thanks.--[[User:Taviource|☆Tavis]][[User talk:Taviource|ource]] 21:11, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
K, it will take a while to make give me 1/2 hour, ill add some extra stuff as well. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 21:12, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
::Thanks You VERY VERY much. Take this and copy the code onto your page..<nowiki>{{User Good Friend|251|250|{{grass color}}|{{fire color}}|000000}}</nowiki>--[[User:Taviource|☆Tavis]][[User talk:Taviource|ource]] 21:16, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
:::Ready, it put them at 100 as it has to be withing specific bands. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 21:30, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
:I've got ur fc, mine's on my page. And I'm in already--[[User:Taviource|☆Tavis]][[User talk:Taviource|ource]] 21:31, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
::Can I have your Turtwig? --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 21:37, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
:I'm trying to catch every Pokemon that ash has...but now, I'm just missing two tauros. I need my turtwig. But if you really want it, I could clone it FIRST, then trade it after.--[[User:Taviource|☆Tavis]][[User talk:Taviource|ource]] 21:38, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
::Yeah lets leave and then you can clone it. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 21:43, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
:What for me I'll be cloning tutwig.--[[User:Taviource|☆Tavis]][[User talk:Taviource|ource]] 21:47, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
::Ready!--[[User:Taviource|☆Tavis]][[User talk:Taviource|ource]] 21:56, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
:::Yes, 2 more Pokemon and I would have ALL of them! Yipee! Porygon-Z was going to trade me a Shaymin, but his connection is "being a Caterpie". And I was going to get a Mew from CoolPikachu!, but he's moving. Do you mind if you help me one last time on this? (sorry if I'm causing too much trouble.)--[[User:Taviource|☆Tavis]][[User talk:Taviource|ource]] 22:05, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
::::Could please get me a mew? I would give a shiny staraptor.--[[User:Diamaster|Dia]][[User talk:Diamaster|master]] 22:13, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
:I guess Diamaster can clone one for me. I just need a Mew. Thanks.--[[User:Taviource|☆Tavis]][[User talk:Taviource|ource]] 22:17, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

==Please...==
You've been making too many edits to the <code>User talk:</code> namespace lately. Please take your conversations to [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/ the forums], a chatroom, e-mail, an IM service, or something similar, as that many edits will slow down the server. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 22:36, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

== Hey. ==

Just wanted to say hi. Sorry about your ban.
[[User:Rpp|Rpp]] 00:03, 14 August 2008 (UTC)Rpp
:That comment was a little harsh though.[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|DCM]] 00:04, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
::I know, it was terrible of me to say it and im horrified at myself its just, as a kid my grandad on my dads side was badly scarred in the war, he got hit by some of the explosion from a bomb and on the news there was a Georgian man with almost the same scarring from a bomb and it just made me furious and then when I saw the Russian soldier wipe his shoes on the Georgian flag, it made my blood boil, so i left and went onto IPGL, and as it was being discused I just typed how angry i felt and then tried to calm down.

As soon as I was calm I went to delete it, but when I pressed delete it came up sorry youve been banned. But theres no point talking to PZ hes so stubborn for the entire time ive known him hes never compromised. I am really sorry for what I wrote. And all I can say is with this PM problem is that God works a) in myserious ways and b) god works fast. LOL--[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 00:11, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
:Did you do it? Cause this doesn't seem like karma to me.--[[User:Blazevoir|Blaz]][[User talk:Blazevoir|evoir]] 00:14, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
::How the hell could I do it. Im actually flattered you think I could do it. Im like the dumbest kid in school. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 00:15, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
:::This is weird, though. You get banned. Then, all of a sudden PMing doesn't work, Administrative options are down, and I don't think that it's a coincidence. I'm not blaming you. But it just seems weird.--[[User:Blazevoir|Blaz]][[User talk:Blazevoir|evoir]] 00:18, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
::::If you want me to be honest, I did pray for forgiveness for what I said and I also prayed that something would open PZ's eyes, but I didnt quite mean this.--[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 00:23, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::Its something encoded.Were looking.Dont destroy the site[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|DCM]]
::::::Did you mean to post that on my page? --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 00:26, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::::Nope.But Im boring over code.[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|DCM]]

== Spam ==

I'm pretty sure advertising your own website on others' talk pages isn't okay... You can email them if really want. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|electAbuzzzz]] ([[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|TALK]]) 15:17, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
:Im doing what the admins want, Martonimos told me Im using the user talk space too much its just above this. So I need to quickly post some links on some friends pages, and then I can greatly reduce my user talk space edits. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 15:22, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

== Your fanfic ==
In an attempt to shrink the userspace, the Bulbapedia administration has put a ban on things like fanfics. This warning is meant to give you time to save your fanfic to an alternate source, if you have not done so already, so that you can re-post it on something like the [[Bulbagarden Library]] or [http://www.fanfiction.net/ FanFiction.net]. On {{#time: l, F j, Y|August 23, 2008}}, your fic will be deleted. You currently have {{#ifexpr: {{#time: z}} < {{#time: z|August 23, 2008}}|{{#expr: {{#time: z|August 23, 2008}} - {{#time: z}} - 1}} day{{#ifexpr: ({{#time: z|August 23, 2008}} - {{#time: z}} - 1) > 1|s}} {{#expr: 23 - {{#time: H}}}} hour{{#ifexpr: (23 - {{#time: H}}) > 1|s}} {{#expr: 60 - {{#time: i}}}} minute{{#ifexpr: (60 - {{#time: i}}) > 1|s}} to move it.|Time's up! Your fanfic will be deleted. I hope you had a chance to move it. Note: please remove this message before December 31, {{#time: Y|August 23, 2008}}.}}{{#ifexpr: {{#time: Y}} > {{#time: Y|August 23, 2008}}|[[Category:Pages needing attention]]}} Have a nice day! --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 06:48, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
:Can you give him a little more time? He's in Australia...without a computer.--[[User:Blazevoir|Blaz]][[User talk:Blazevoir|evoir]] 15:13, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
::I'll save it for him[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|Your Friendly Neighborhood Cookie Monster]]
:::It's fine. We can wait for him to get back. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 16:10, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
::::When will he get back? I'll re-subst the template so this page isn't flagged until then. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 18:03, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::SP252 already deleted it...I think...'''[[User:Optimatum|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''12:35 21 Aug 2008'''''

== Regarding your fanfic... ==

...When there's a new speaker, start a new paragraph. Makes the fic alot easier to read. That, and ending off with 'They hi-fived and celebrated.' isn't going to entertain the reader. Improve, then stick it on [http://www.fanfiction.net/ Fanfiction.net] instead of here. '''[[User:Optimatum|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''06:29 19 Aug 2008'''''

And BTW, u still got friends on there, like me (PokéShipper4EverMore), Bookwormx, Ivan Hoshikawa, and Takoto.--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 14:00, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
:BTW, I put your Fan fic on your site[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|Good Day;DCM]]

== I'm sorry ==

Did u get my email?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 14:27, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
:Just read it now. It is a little unfair that current uses arent allowed fanfics when old hasbins, like "Damian Silverblade" get pages dedicated to them just saying how amazing they were. But the rules r de rules as they say, even if they are unfair. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]

Let's chat about this someplace else so we don't flood the RCs--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 14:47, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
:YAY, Kuki, join IPGL. Thatd be bril. its http://ipgl.proboards84.com/index.cgi

I'm trying to, but when I press register nutin happens!--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 14:56, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
:Click login then noew account[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|Good Day;DCM]]
ill create one for you, you can change the password afterwards. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 14:57, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

ill try and sent the confimation mail to you. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 14:59, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm in!--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 15:06, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
:I had to give you my birthday as I didnt no yours. So when it comes up about our birthday, (some weird feature on IPGL) we can celebrate together. In fact we are twins, YAY. Also I gave you my password I use for everything so Im trusting you Kuki. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 15:09, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

BTW, I'm January 31st, and I wanted to be Kukimanman! So let's chat!--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 15:10, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

== Okay ==

It will be restored. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] [[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]] 13:17, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

== Thank you ==

Thank you for the warning. I was chnging it back to normal when that Shinybluepikachu guy decided to bully me (he was hovering over my page). [[User:Xknight 511|☆X-Knight☆]][[User talk:Xknight 511|511♂]] 17:52, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
:Thats okay, your welcome, some of the admins can be quite harsh and they like to throw there powers around cos they think they own the place. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 17:55, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Tell me about it. I'm a Bueracrat on Star Fox wiki, so if he shows up there, I'll "bully" him a little so he can see how it feels. But only if he does one little thing wrong like I did, so it can be fair.

I think you should be an admin. Nobody has nominated you yet? --[[User:Xknight 511|☆X-Knight☆]][[User talk:Xknight 511|511♂]] 18:01, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
:Cool thankyou. I dont meet the time requirement yet though. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 18:07, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

You mean... you can become an admin just by being a user for an amount of time? Awesome! You're welcome, how long have you been on? [[User:Xknight 511|☆X-Knight☆]][[User talk:Xknight 511|511♂]] 18:10, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
:No its not like that. You have to be on for a certain amount of time before you can be nominated. Ive been on since June I think. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 18:11, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Oh. I'll try to make some contribs. Say, do you have a Youtube account? --[[User:Xknight 511|☆X-Knight☆]][[User talk:Xknight 511|511♂]] 18:24, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

== Hiya ==

Long time no talk--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 18:12, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
:Yeah, im back to school since tuesday and ive been really busy with homework. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 18:13, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Well I couldn't go to Mom's on Friday so I was stuck with Dad, where there's no internet, and due to Tropical Storm Hanna's rainfall, I couldn't get to library til today. Have I shown u my stories yet?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 18:16, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
:Ive seen some YHABTO --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 18:17, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Where?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 18:19, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
:you emailed it --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 18:22, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

O Yeah, that's right! You loved “Definitely, and you can’t spell overreacting without saying ovary, which apparently helped me knock you up!..." I've started working on an upcoming part. Maybe I can email it to u, if u want--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 18:29, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

==Rotom's types==

Arty2, the same person who is responsible for extracting the new forms' base stats, has also indicated that they all possess the same types as the original form. It is as simple as that.

The next time you refer to an administrator's action as vandalism, you will find that your own vandalism has gotten you banned. Have a nice day. --[[User:Unown Lord|Unown Lord]] 19:38, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
:And just to let you know, Guardian, Unown Lord is the Admin whose edits you were reverting.--[[User:Blazevoir|Blaz]][[User talk:Blazevoir|evoir]] 20:02, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

::Have fun being blocked for a week, Guardian. I will be watching you closely when you come back. --[[User:Unown Lord|Unown Lord]] 20:08, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

===Sigh===
Edit warring with anyone is not a good thing. If you'd've checked Unown Lord's contribs you'd've seen: he's been here for longer than even ''I'' have. If you paid attention to the {{bp|administrators}} page, you'd also know he's an admin. Heck he's the ''research editor'', he'd know more about the alt-Rotom than anyone else here.
{{spoiler}}
I know the "official" date for Platinum was said to be the 13th, but you know, official dates hardly mean much. People got {{wp|Harry Potter 7}} way before it came out officially (by the way, here's a note: VOLDEMORT KILLS SNAPE! VOLDEMORT KILLS SNAPE!and this is no different.

Either way, assume a bit more good faith when people edit an article. When it's about a new game, be wary that information may come out early... like it did now.

Anyway, if you wanna come to me about abusing power... well then you fail to see what lulz is. If it were making fun of someone who just got here and was ''not'' warned repeatedly, then it'd be different. But when someone's acting as self-important as Yami was... you gotta laugh at it. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:31, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

== Email Address ==

Did u change your email address?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 18:18, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

== RE: communication ==

I still go to your forum at least twice a day...I guess we could talk there...--[[User:Blazevoir|Blaz]][[User talk:Blazevoir|evoir]]!! 11:38, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

How are u? Wanna chat on Gmail?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 19:57, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
:no thankyou Kuki, im tired from being tested at the hospital all day. maybe 2morow. Ill be supporting you Oct 02!!!--[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 19:59, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

What happened?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 20:01, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
::October? No fair, mine's on December!--[[User:Tavisource/Custom Sprite Project|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 20:03, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
:::Ill be supporting you then to. Kuki's is earlier cos he technically wasnt up last time as it was too early. And Tavi, use all the critisim they gave you and turn it into good by using it to make your candidacy better, learn from what they told you, and then you will win.--[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 21:10, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
::::Thanks! So what happened...hospital?--[[User:Tavisource/Custom Sprite Project|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 21:12, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::I keep getting shooting pains all over my body. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 21:30, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
:::I'm sorry, Hope you're feeling better now.--[[User:Tavisource/Custom Sprite Project|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 21:31, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

== Hi ==

Hi Max hows things?? The IPGL is a little quiet without you man - so I thought I'd look you up on here [[User:PhantomCX|PhantomCX]] 12:20, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

User talk:Super Max/Archive/2008

2008-10-01T12:19:55Z

PhantomCX:

Talk:Me First (move)

2008-09-26T11:34:52Z

PhantomCX:

== Name Anticipate? ==
I have only found one reliable source saying that the name of the move is "Me First", everywhere else lists it as "Anticipate".
Thoughts? ~ [[User:Megalomania|Megalomania]] 01:31, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

:[http://dsmedia.ign.com/ds/image/article/771/771649/pokemon_image_1173399814.jpg Here ya go.] --'''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 04:03, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

:: Alright, I guess we'll have to wait for launch. Until then we should keep the redirects, maybe reference the name 'Anticipate' in the article?
::And has anyone established the move's effect yet? Serebii says that it increases in power (to 75) if the opponent attacks, but I kinda doubt that, as you may as well just go with Headbutt, etc. People at Smogon apparently have the game, and say that it mimics the opponents moves. ~ [[User:Megalomania|Megalomania]] 05:28, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

== Speed tested ==

I got this skill for my Absol a little while back; from what I found, the user actually needs to be faster then the foe, or this move fails. I'll change the main article. -- [[user:Jioruji Derako|'''J'''ioruji '''D'''erako.'''>''']] 09:25, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

== Pikachu ==

Can Pikachu actually learn this attack? It's page says no, but here it says it does... [[User:Tesh|'''TESHIGIGAS''']] 20:26, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

: According to Serebii, Veekun, and Smogon, no it cannot. [[User:Zurqoxn|Zurqoxn]] 02:16, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

== Hitmonlee ==

Can Hitmonlee learn this - his page says yes but he is not metioned below?? [[User:PhantomCX|PhantomCX]] 11:34, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Pokémon Platinum Version/Archive 1

2008-09-15T11:54:46Z

PhantomCX:

==November 2007: Beckett rumour==
Here's my source: [http://www.pokebeach.com/#28197]. [[Image:164sMS.png]][[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny]][[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|?]][[Special:Contributions/Shiny Noctowl|!]] 21:50, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

:''but right now we can consider it a "rumor" until Nintendo or another source reveals new information''. That's what your source says about this. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 21:56, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
::I'm really wary of this. If there is a so-called Platinum, it wouldn't be a GS remake; did the RB remake come as one game? No, it was two. It wouldn't make sense, either, as DPv3, due to its name. I also tried to visit [www.pokemonplatinum.com Pokemonplatinum.com], no site. [www.pokemonamethyst.com Pokemonamethyst.com], however... that redirects to Nintendo...

::Best possible course of action: someone contacts Beckett and asks where the hell they got the information. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 01:08, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

:::That's wierd that it redirects to Nintendo site! --[[Image:Spr 3e 059.gif|70px]][[Image:Spr 3e 132.gif]]'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Games|2]]''' [[Image:Trozeiani025.gif]] 15:23, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

::::It's not unusual. Nintendo often reserve possible game names, many of which are not used. If they haven't done so for Platinum, that would be more telling. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 15:34, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

:::Sounds like a job for {{wp|Gamespot}}'s Rumor Control...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 02:48, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

::::Interesting.......But a new Ranger DS! That's cool! But that is good proof for Platinum Version....--[[Image:Spr 3e 059.gif|70px]][[Image:Spr 3e 132.gif]]'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Games|2]]''' [[Image:Trozeiani025.gif]] 15:21, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

:::::Deleted for now: While a third game to DP is inevitable, "Platinum" is still only in rumour territory right now. As WPM pointed out, Beckett aren't that reliable for new game news. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 15:28, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

::::::Besides, if we were to keep this page, we'd also need a Ranger 2 page based on the same reports. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 15:30, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

This game is confirmed. http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/platinum/ the name makes sense. in japan the kanji says "Platina" ans who does that remind us of? Gir'''atina''' [[User:Arutoa|Arutoa]] 13:04, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Hey guys! I was just emailing nintendo about the GTS clogging up with impossible requests, and descided to confim this. This was their reply.

[http://www.plunder.com/Bulbapedia-Email-Upload-download-145172.htm CLICKY!!]

I put extra line breaks to make it fit.
[[User:Yugiohguy1|Yugiohguy1]] 18:17, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
:He talks like they're not going to localize it, but yeah, they are. Unless NOA hates money, or something.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 19:21, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

==May 2008: Corocoro announcement==

*Corocoro Comic's image [[http://www.filb.de/kaihou/content/20080511_corocoro-foto.jpg]] {{Unsigned|FPU}}

:*sighs* The scan looks...Real. Very real. But it still could be fake |: I think everyone should just WAIT until CoroCoro is released, then make new articles + add new info. [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]] 14:59, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

== Version? ==

Should this be titled "Pokémon Platinum Version," like all the rest? --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 20:38, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
:I hit that when I edited the Template:Main series. But the Pokémon Platinum Version was protected from being created by TTE•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 20:39, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Delete this, this is Speculation, can somone put the Delete Tag, I want OFFICAL Proof, a Corocoro scan isn't Offical proof.--[[User:Quick Man|Quick Man]] 20:51, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
:You're acting just like TTE. But he would blow his head off. We have scans of the whole magazine. but I want official proof too•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 20:58, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
::The new Famitsu magazine came out as well with a Pokemon Platinum article. Same information. And now don't tell me someone is crazy enough to create fake scans for each magazine. [http://wiieveryday.blogspot.com/2008/05/famitsu-20080516.html] [[User:Goldchaos|Goldchaos]] 21:24, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
:::There's someone crazy enough to create fake scans for each magazine. There, I told you•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 21:47, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
::::I have finally found someone with the same sense of humour as myself! '''[[:User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Talk]]-[[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|Contribs]]''' 18:13, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
I have to agree; until there is actual confirmation of anything from official sources, there shouldn't be a full page, perhaps just a discussion page, but no article. I've also seen this called Opal version, and there was a shiny photoshoped image to go with that one too! Remove this until there is proof, now. [[User:TheCakeIsALie|NonaSuomi]] 00:40, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
:Yea but that was merely a photoshopped image. But this was complex frames from two unrelated magazines. TTEchidna also said that since it is on Famitsu, that it's likely official•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 00:49, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
'''[http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/platinum/02.html ''Now'' it's official]''' >_> --[[User:Mycroft|Mycroft]] 12:27, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

== Irony ==

This page was up for deletion 2 weeks ago now we all can't wait for more info to be added to it --lord mada 15:13, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
:Two weeks ago it wasn't confirmed. Now it's official. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 15:19, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

== Origin form ==

so its got giratina in 'origin' and 'another' forms, but only 'another' appeared in d/p. i guess this means that platinum will have to send a data patch when trading an origin form from platinum to d/p. right? '''[[:User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Talk]]-[[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|Contribs]]''' 15:24, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

:Probably. I mean, i'm pretty sure the "Origin" form sprite isn't programmed into D/P. So yeah... :\ [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 15:39, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

::i guess this means a new version of pokesav will be in order, to comply with the differing forms of giratina. '''[[:User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Talk]]-[[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|Contribs]]''' 15:46, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
:::Or just pull off a Deoxys and just revert back when it gets traded to DP. [[User:Tina|Tina]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|☆]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 15:50, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

::::that would annoy people though wouldnt it? i mean the deoxys sprites were all coded in, and trades have been used to transfer data patches before, how hard can it be to add 2 sprites, the relevant animation data and modify the pokedex to accommodate a new form? '''[[:User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Talk]]-[[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|Contribs]]'''
:::::Wait, what trade has transfered data patches before? I'm curious. [[User:Tina|Tina]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|☆]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 15:56, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::Deoxys ([[User:MathijsP|MathijsP]] 16:06, 15 May 2008 (UTC))

::::::The [[Berry Glitch]] was a data-patch trade, so to speak. I seemed to remember that in gen 3 there was a patch that was transferred by trading, i may have made a mistake. But surely when D/P connects to Platinum, Platinum will detect the following:
::::::* whether its connected to D/P or PL (platinum shortening)
::::::* if its D/P, whether said D/P has the patch or not
::::::and then send or not send the patch accordingly. '''[[:User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Talk]]-[[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|Contribs]]''' 16:15, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

If You can get Origin form in D/P you might be able to get it over wifi whenthis game is released. [[User:Darkmaster0]]

:Hey everyone, ain't it obvious? Giratina will ONLY be available as Origine Form in Platinum and when traded back to D/P its stats will be recalculated and its sprite will change to Another Form, much like Deoxys in [[Generation III|previous games]]. Also there ARE patches transfered through trades, or have you forgotten already? what about the national dex in R/S? it is unobtainble until you trade with FR/LG or Emerald that has it already. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 19:37, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
::yes. but only fire red or leaf green, not emerald [[User:Pikachu25|Pikachu25]] 17:22, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
No, Emerald too. But I ''think'' it has to be a non-Hoenn 'Dex Pokemon.--[[User:Goukazaru|Nostalgia]] 14:35, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
:::nopes, after you get the national dex in emerald, any trade you do with R/S will give you the national dex in that game. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 23:34, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

No ,your forgeting that Giratina only changes into origin forme when its in the [[Torn World]] and since theres no Torn World in DP Giratina will only be in another forme.
From [[user:ultamatecharizard]].

:The new Platinum Orb can keep it in Origin Forme outside the Torn World. Connecting the game to WiFi or to D/P, etc. disables the Orb and reverts Giratina back to its Another Forme. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 18:29, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

== and another thing ==

[http://news.softpedia.com/news/Pokemon-Platinum-Revealed-85314.shtml (link)] - should this be mentioned?
it says that regigigas and shaymin get new forms, volkner is no longer on the sunyshore gym, and the underground will go wi-fi. opinions? '''[[:User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Talk]]-[[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|Contribs]]''' 17:47, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
:We should stick to the information in the magazines and on the website. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 18:18, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

== Clothes ==
Well, it isn't confirmed, that there will be a new main outfit. Many players think that the blue jacket is only for the snow areas off Sinnoh (Snowpoint, R217, R218, Mt. Coronet) --[[User:Furanty|Furanty]] 19:29, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
:Well, certain areas or not, it's a new outfit. [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 19:39, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
::We're still jumping to far too many conclusions here. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 19:41, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
:::This is just my guess but I think [[Lucas]]'s(If he gets a bew look) new look is going to be something like this [[Image:Koki_in_Platinum.PNG]] to comparison to this [[Image:Koki.png]]--[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 01:02, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

== A word of notice ==

I know everyone is excited about this new game and only wonder what will be new. HOWEVER this talk page is not the place to do it. please take any "Oh I hope this is in Platinum...." or anything discussion like that to this [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showthread.php?t=28695 thread on the forums.] There is a difference between discussion to help the article and discussion about the game. Thanks! -[[User:Sketchies|Sketchies]] 20:23, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
:LISTEN TO SKETCHIES DAMMIT. Talk pages are purely for the article, NOT FOR BLOODY SPECULATION! [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 11:08, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

== Battle screenshot ==

I don't think the battle screen is actually updated. Looking at it, it seems to me like the HP bar and stuff are still sliding into space. Lucas doesn't have any Poké Balls by his head yet, and the background's still doing something weird, so I think it's still transitioning into the battle. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Talk))]] 06:12, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

:Yes, but the text doesn't appear until after the battle screen has finished transitioning, so maybe the 'pokeball bar' doesn't appear, or doesn't appear in wild battles. '''[[:User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Talk]]-[[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|Contribs]]''' 10:02, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
::Or it's still beta. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 11:20, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
:::Hang on a moment, let me steal my brother's Pearl. ...OK, yeah, that was me failing. I haven't played a game since Sapphire, and that was only until I got all the Pokémon I needed to trade him, so I'm not familiar with how the new games work. Apologies. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Talk))]] 20:45, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

== 'Forme?' ==

What's with the extra e on Giratina's Origin Form? Who's spelling it like that? Has it even been officially translated into English yet?--[[User:Amp|Amp]] 19:17, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

:It's a conspiracy by the Church of E. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 19:38, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
::TTEchidna explains it all [[User talk:TTEchidna#So... uh...|here]]. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Talk))]] 20:45, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
:::Check Deoxys on the official American Pokedex: http://www.pokemon.com/Pokedex/flash.asp --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 01:38, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
:::: I suspect sabotage, myself. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 10:08, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

== Locations and Pokedex entries on pokemon pages ==

Is it really needed now? Because I dont like the part under Pearl in locations that says "Platinum:Unknown"[[User:Krakash|Krakash]] 13:07, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
:Yes it is. Information pops up sooner than you think! '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:43, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
::No it isn't. There is no point having the templates set up until we actually have the information. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 15:15, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

== Trivia section ==

Gamefreak had obviously planned for Giratina to be the mascot with the sharing of syllables (gir''atina'' and pl''atina''), so I think it's a fact that the platinum on Giratina is the skin.--[[User:Shinin|Shinin]] 13:53, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
:And with the ''gir'' possibly coming from ''girare'' which can mean ''wander'', it would basically be wandering platinum, which is what Giratina basically is.•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|P]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|M]][[:Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|102]]''' 01:01, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

== Colour to Version ==
Ho-Oh's primary colour is red when looking at at, so the Trivia point isn't exactly valid as it stands. [[User:Gywall|Gywall]] 15:39, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

:Your point is valid, but there was already a Pokemon Red... Also Lugia isn't really silver, it is white, but that makes no sense. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 02:27, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

== Protection request ==

A lot of people have making changes and undoing changes. I say we protect it for a while. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 20:39, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
:Just because it gets changed doesn't mean it should be protected. [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 20:41, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
::But there are edit wars going on. That's why it should be protected. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 20:45, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
:There is no Edit war, just a bunch of reverts and such[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|C is for Cookie]] 20:46, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
::By going through the history I see just 1 small war. [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 20:47, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
:::But it's a minor one and there is no need for protection. There isn't one now. is there?•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 20:56, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
::::Okay fine. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 21:11, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

== Escher? ==

Where'd the Escher comment from? Admittedly, I haven't seen this shot. But even so, it seems awfully POV. [[User:Midnight Celtic|Midnight]][[User talk:Midnight Celtic|Celtic]] 18:34, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

:Serebii.com has a screenshot[http://www.serebii.net/platinum/pics.shtml]. I guess the Torn World invokes the feelings of Escher's {{wp|Image:Escher's Relativity.jpg|"Crazy Stairs"}} painting. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 18:54, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

::Meh, I saw it, but I don't see Escher. But a question arises. How in the world do you get around in platforms like that? [[User:Midnight Celtic|Midnight]][[User talk:Midnight Celtic|Celtic]] 18:34, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

:::My best guess would be some type of tile. Like a Warp Tile. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 18:39, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

::::I think the vine things help. and i think the screenshot needs to be rotated 90 degrees anticlockwise, judging by the way round lucas is standing. '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|808080|Origami}}{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|FF8000|Guy}}-{{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|808080|T}}-{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|FF8000|C}}-{{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|0080FF|M}}''' 18:40, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
Please do not go off topic. the article is the only thing that should be discussed here. Thanks. -[[User:Sketchies|Sketchies]] 18:43, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

== New Designs ==

I found this.Is this how they are going to look like?--[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 01:33, 12 June 2008 (UTC) [[Image:Personajesplatino11jun08.jpg|250px|From a Scan]]
:Yes.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 03:27, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
I was going to remove this; but then I realized this does have merit to the article. -[[User:Sketchies|Sketchies]] 03:36, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
::Dawn already has a Platinum picture on her page. We need to make a picture of Lucas...better than this one though, the outline is all messed up. Pearl too. Although his design barely changed, so a simple description would suffice for a longer time...--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 03:39, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

== Other Trainer sprites changing ==

Do we actually know that other Trainer sprites will change to accommodate for the cold?--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 04:04, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
:I don't think so. There's not even any evidence that it will be colder; just the people wearing seeming winter clothes. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 04:36, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
::Everyone's actually reporting Sinnoh's climate has changed; that much seems to hold true. Everybody ''else's'' sprites, I dunno.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 05:37, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Serebii hasn't always been the best source in the past. I'll let it go for now, though. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 07:36, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
::::In one screen with the two new characters there is snow on the ground in Eterna city, the climate looks like it's changing. -Alec2792 16:40, 13 June 2008 (EST)

== Box art? ==

Where did the box art come from?[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|Emperor's Cookies]] 14:06, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

:CoroCoro appearantly. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 14:12, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
::I',m getting more and more interested.[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|Emperor's Cookies]] 14:16, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

:::Looks like it was added by {{u|Sailor Earth}}. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 14:34, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Can someone add this[http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/6669/60011673co8.png] higher res picture for the boxart. -Alec2792 16:32, 13 June 2008 (EST)

I can see that the spikes coming out of Giratina origin forme streamers are translucent--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 12:37, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
:Like, can you people please stop posting spam (Goddamit, I wish I had the power to remove these messages). So what if they're translucent??? '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''13:28 28 Jun 2008'''''

::It was just an observation. Don't have a {{p|Miltank}}. Sheesh... ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 16:29, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
::"Allowed to," Optimus? Does Bulbapedia have rules against normal users erasing spam? (Anyone can on Wikipedia...not saying anything.)--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 21:41, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
:::-sweatdrop- Was in a bad mood yesterday after Word crashed and I couldn't do my homework. Fine, fine, I won't do it again. And no, I don't have a Miltank. Never played GS except for ShinyGold. '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''00:51 29 Jun 2008'''''

==Proven?==
*When transfered from Diamond and Pearl, Shaymin automatically changes into Sky Forme.

Can this be proven? I don't know if this was said directly in the Japanese mag, if it was then please excuse this. If not it should be removed.[[User:GJPal|GJ]] 18:52, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
:It's in the Famitsu scan. -[[User:Sketchies|Sketchies]] 18:58, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
::OK, now {{u|PsychicRider}} removed it. Has it been ''dis''proved? --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 20:14, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Yes, go to Serebii.net's front page. A key item is needed to swich forms. Blazevoir 21:45, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
::::Won't trust Sere if I were you. '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''23:39 5 Jul 2008'''''
:::::Well, I actually saw a [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showpost.php?p=583890&postcount=364 post] on the forums that included scans of a magazine page detailing the process. I have no idea whether or not it says what they say it says, since I don't read Japanese, but until someone can dispute it...
:::::Anyway, I'll add something about the key item. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 03:40, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

==Pictures==
Should pictures of the Regis in the game be added?--[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 19:20, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
:Or the Platinum art of the 3 starters?--[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 19:21, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

== New Charactors? ==

The new charactor looks like both Maylene and Pearl. Does anyone else notice this? I think it could be a relationship because the Tower Tycoon is related to pearl so this could be his Grandfather.[[User:Rucario64]] 02:30, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
:...Does this have anything to do with editing the article? Sketchies...-rings bell- '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''02:37 29 Jun 2008'''''

::This statemant was deleted before... ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 03:56, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

==Pics==
I found some pics of changes in Platinum --[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 20:43, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff194/CoolPikachu/aspectocarrilbici29juniopng.png Cycle Road in Platinum
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff194/CoolPikachu/aspectogalaxiaplatino29juniopng.png Veilstone City Team Galatic HQ(Platinum)
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff194/CoolPikachu/aspectocanal29juniopng.png Cantalave City Libary(Platinum)
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff194/CoolPikachu/aspectogalaxiavetusta29juniopng.png Eterna City Team Galactic HQ(Platinum)
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff194/CoolPikachu/Platinum_Registeel.jpg (Registeel Cave)
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff194/CoolPikachu/Platinum_Regice.jpg (Regice Cave)

Wow. Did you find any pics of Regirock Cave? If the other two are available, Regirock should be too. Could you also provide a link to where these pics were found?
[[User:Yugiohguy1|Yugiohguy1]] 18:17, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

I've got some new pics,

http://www.pokemonplatinum.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/0011.jpg Sinnoh, revised
http://www.pokemonplatinum.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/0021.jpg A close-up of the anomaly

http://www.pokemonplatinum.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/poketch1.jpg The new Pokétch

And I've found a translation of the Japanese Pokémon Platinum site- Here's the story:

Pokémon Diamond centered around Dialga, the ruler of time; Pearl centered around Palkia, the ruler of space. In this installment, Giratina is the star. A mysterious portal has opened atop Sinnoh’s Mt. Coronet, serving as the entrance to the Ruined World, an alternate dimension warping time and space. A story of “epic proportions” unfolds with Sinnoh in center stage!

And this:

The boy and girl trainers have gotten new outfits in response to Sinnoh’s colder weather, caused by the disturbance. They are sporting new Pokétchs, too. The rival will help out the protagonists as well in this installment.

http://www.pokemonplatinum.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/outfits1.jpg Another pic of the protagonists.

[[User:Grasspuff|MooTwo]] 09:55, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

==Pluto?==
Where did the info about the new character being named Pluto come from? '''~[[User:RR|R]][[User talk:RR|R]]~''' 01:43, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

:I did. I found the information [http://www.pokemonplatinum.net/ here]. It was on the second page right underneath a picture of him. Blazevoir 03:21, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

::There's nothing there to actually prove his name is Pluto. The Japanese caption just says that they're new characters.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 03:24, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

:::Sorry. If you want to change it back, go ahead. Blazevoir 03:28, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

::::It's not your fault. I blame them for making up ''stupid crap.''--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 03:33, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

:::::Do you want to get rid of the link also? Some of the stuff there is true, like Regigigas' moveset for the movie. Plus, it's the one of the only sites that has information about Platinum in English. Blazevoir 15:25, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

::::::Well if we can verify their information I don't really see a problem...but we should definitely keep an eye out.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 18:07, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

== Trivia ==

This is getting ridiculous. DPP? So what if it's the first gen to get two of the same letter? Does it matter? RBF'''R'''LGE. Gen III. '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''15:02 5 Jul 2008'''''

RS! But FR is one, it should be RSFLE in my opinion--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 15:05, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
:Yeah, FR counts as one, LG counts as one. But remember, it's not Firered, it's FireRed. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 17:15, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
::Does Germany not count? Emerald and Sapphire both start with S in the German language. -- [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|SeriousDom]] 00:28, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

It does not count cuz Bulbapedia is English--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 00:31, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
:It counts. jast becoz babapeedia is eengleesh dus nut min thut guhman theengs r nut cunted. Seriously, stop using short form. Anyway, it goes in. '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''01:01 12 Jul 2008'''''
::But if that counts, then Spanish also counts, where the very first generation had '''A'''zul (Blue) and '''A'''marillo (Yellow). Then other languages will see the chance to mention their own coincidence. IMHO, the trivia should contain only the English bit, if any.--[[User:Kaoz|Kaoz]] 23:07, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

== GTS ==

If you look at the picture of inside the new GTS, it has the same big computers as the first new room. Should we change it, or let it be confirmed? '''[[User:Pachirisulover12|PL]][[User talk:Pachirisulover12|12]]''' 12:26, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
:Wait until we actually know what the new GTS does. Until then. Leave it alone. -[[User:Sketchies|Sketchies]] 12:54, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
Apparently it is the 'Global Terminal' now, not 'Global Trade Station'.-Rabla 2:34, 11 July 2008.

== Giratina's Another Forme ==

As seen in [http://www.pokemonplatinum.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/2008-08_03.jpg this] picture (bottom right), Giratina seems to have the spikes on his wings rearranged. Is this worthy of a mention? [[User:Lv100|Lv100]] 14:05, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
:I'd say so.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 18:27, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
::They did talk about new animation. Maybe it's the second frame sprite. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:32, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Probably is. Look at the Origin Forme. It's not the same either. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 05:37, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

==Gym Leader Sprites==
I saw a video on Platinum and Gardinia's Sprite moves when you battle her and her Gym is remodeled here's the vid [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_iIlDR7GFk Platinum Video]--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''Pika''']][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|'''chu!''']] 22:17, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
:Woah. And from the looks of things, the Pokémon's backsprites have new animations as well. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 22:31, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
::Like Pikachu! It looks at you when coming out.--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''Pika''']][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|'''chu!''']] 22:32, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
And Shaymin's new form may have a different cry--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''Pika''']][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|'''chu!''']] 23:14, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
:Different cry? That's weird... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:53, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
:Yea I think.--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''Pika''']][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|'''chu!''']] 06:01, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
::Yeah, and Deoxys has a different cry in FireRed than in Ruby... '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 01:36, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Are you sure?--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''Pika''']][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|'''chu!''']] 01:37, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
::::It was sarcasm. No Pokémon has changed its cry since Gen I, and there is no reason to change any existing cry. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 01:44, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::{{tt|Oh.|I ''hate'' sarcasm}}--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''Pika''']][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|'''chu!''']] 01:48, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
::::::I think it actually might be a different cry since it is a different type, sprite, shape, size, ect. {{Tt|That may have caused Nintendo to change the cry too.|This isnt't sarcasm.}}-- [[User:23-03-33]] 17:33, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
I see you didn't get it. A cry is something distinctive for every Pokémon, so, it MUST NOT be changed. I know that {{tt|Mr. Badass|Sky Forme}} is '''''{{tt|very|I mean VERY different: height, weight, type, etc.}}''''' different than the normal Shaymin we all know, it's still the same Pokémon, so IT WILL HAVE the same 'tweet tweet' cry even if you don't like it. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 20:41, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
:Not as distinctive as some think. Some pokemon share Crys (Mostly in the original 151 but there are exceptions)[[User:Lego3400|Lego3400]] 13:41, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
::ditto and poliwag for example '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|ff8000|gami}}''' 10:49, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

== More Info Regarding Platinum ==

From another [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj_wQlKxCbo Pokémon Sunday video] about Platinum, I found out that there will me moving platforms in the Torn World. The outlying platforms you can jump on have gaps, that act a lot like the ledges in ordinary routes. I also watched the part of the video when the hosts of Pokémon Sunday were making Poffins. You have to keep spinning Swalot, and the one who gives him the most berries wins.

--[[User:Ore-sama.|'''Ore-sama♂''']] [[User talk:Ore-sama.|''':D''']] 4:26, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

== New Information ??? ==

I have found a new source [http://pokemon.kids.yahoo.co.jp/platinum/library/ on this page]. It has some battle information and some new battle sprites. I think it also describes some wifi differences. I don't speak or read Japanese so I can't really tell.-- [[User:23-03-33]] 17:27, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

== New Begining ==

Where does it say or show the player gets their starter in a different way to DP? --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 19:57, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

== And the sprites ==

Since we now know for sure that the Platinum sprites are different for all Pokémon... or at least Sinnoh ones...

Well, what will we do about the animation? Will we do it as we did Emerald? Will we make the DP sprites animate? This sounds... possibly... to be a perfect time to ready support for animated .pngs. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:29, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
:I think it's better to leave DP as inanimated pics. Just like Crystal and Emerald, Platinum ones should be animated, but until the game is released. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 03:59, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
::Why shouldn't the DP sprites be animated? If we do Platinum but not DP, there will be the implication that DP's sprites aren't animated.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 06:40, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
:pngs can be animated!? '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|ff8000|gami}}''' 11:34, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

== Worthy of a mention? ==

I saw [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0eyqE_3KPA| this video] and if you look around 2:37 you can see that there is snow lining some of the regular routes, probably linked with the climate getting colder. I was wondering if this is worthy of a mention and if it is may I please be the one to add it as it will be my first contribution to the mainpspace. // [[User:Crest|'''C-R''']] [[User talk:Crest|'''E-S''']] [[special:Contributions/Crest|'''T-☆''']] 23:18, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
:Go ahead; we've already mentioned that the climate is colder, but only to explain why Lucas and Dawn are wearing heavier outfits. We ''should'' make the cold climate statement more general...there's snow in Twinleaf now, too.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 00:30, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

== Spoilers ==

is it appropriate to put a spoiler warning on the page? [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 01:57, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
:yes. '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|ff8000|gami}}''' 10:11, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
::Do any of the other games have spoiler tags? No. If people don't want to know about the game, they shouldn't come to the page.--[[User:Blazevoir|Blaz]][[User talk:Blazevoir|evoir]] 10:19, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
:::And? I vote this page gets a spoiler warning...[[User:Takoto|~~Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 10:29, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
:::Future event tag, not spoiler. However, we could stick the spoiler tag on the storyline area. '''[[User:Optimatum|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''10:30 3 Sep 2008'''''
== leaflet information, probably fake ==

the video I saw features 3 new rotom formes on youtube, type the following: new Pokemon revealed (rotom new forms)--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 15:29, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
:Yeah, we've seen it. [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 15:41, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

so fake or not? or shall we wait till Nintemdo confirms a thing or two?--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 15:44, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
:Nintendo says they won't release anything until September 28, so I'd say wait.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 16:01, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

== 151 plus 52? ==

Well it says that the Sinnoh Dex will be increased with 52 Pokémon... I'd like to see where that info came from, because 151+52 = 203, NOT 210!!!! anyways, if 52 new Pokémon are added, they'll be all Gen IV Pokémon not included in the sinnoh Dex with their families (excluding the Eevee family, as only adding Eevee we get the total of 52). '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 18:38, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

151+59!--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 18:39, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

:Ok, someone fixed it... anyways where did that come from especifically? '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 18:43, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

blueskY, apparently--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 18:45, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

:Nothing confirmed, don't fanwank. And, I always bring that up when someone religiously follow blueSkY's Blog, blueSkY used to post fake informations, just like the infamous Zak rumor. So, please don't believe in his every word (we still didn't got any confirmation that [[Volkner]] will be replaced and I say it's pretty unlikely, as we've seen that Volkner's title is still Gym Leader on one of the videos). --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 18:54, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
::That's what I'm talking about, it is extremely doubtful. Is like if they changed the Hoenn dex when Emerald came out, but seeing that they changed [[Shaymin (Pokémon)|a Pokémon's]] cry, it could be... but very doubtful. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 19:00, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

:::The information originates from a merchandise advertisement; the item in question is associated with Platinum in its branding, but to go as far as to conclude that the collectible Pokémon therein represent the Sinnoh Pokédex critters, is quite a stretch. After all, assuming that the Pokédex has been kept in tact, why should the toy company limit the content to a rather arbitrary selection of Pokémon dictated by the games?

:::An addition of 59 monsters would be quite noteworthy, and yet all of the game advertisements have only shown the same Pokémon from the original Sinnoh Pokédex (unless in the context of the Battle Frontier and Wi-Fi). Why, for instance, would they have bothered to showcase Magmortar and Electivire in a Wi-Fi battle, when they could have just shown them being used by Volkner and Flint? I should also think that they would have taken the opportunity to refer to Giratina's Sinnoh Pokédex number by now. -[[User:Unown Lord|Unown Lord]] 19:24, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

== No ranch?! ==

Aw, man, that stinks. Though can't WiiWare be updated...? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:46, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

:Where'd u hear that???--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|'''ュウ!''']] 22:58, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
::Logic. It's downloadable content. It's very, very simple to issue patches or updates for this format.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 17:27, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

== New sprites ==

I screenprinted these from some of the trailers and commercials. These are only a few of them and I'm too lazy to find them all. :P
[[Image:New_platinum_sprites.PNG]]
I like the Leafeon and Lucario sprites the most. The Pachirisu looks a bit funny though xD
[[User:Pocchama|Pocchama]] 02:52, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
:Not bad... but I definitely think we ought to wait until the actual game comes out so we can get the sprites directly from a ROM. It'd be more standardized that way. Besides, there's not really a point to adding some sprites if we can't get all of them. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 03:01, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
::I agree, we should wait. plus then there'll be no background.
::and oh my gosh, what did they do to piplup? when know one picks it, we'll know why. I like the chimchar though. --'''[[User:Mooites|Mooites]]''' [[User talk:Mooites|Talk to me, baby!]] 03:15, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
:::Starly makes you wonder whether it's paying attention or not...--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 05:31, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
::::Lol. They ruined Pachirisu, Piplup, and Turtwig....--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|'''ュウ!''']] 06:00, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::I lol'd at Starly's sprite, also, Piplup's head looks too big :C [[User:Takoto|~~Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 10:22, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

dude, infernape looks BEAST.[[User:Garrison12795|Garr]][[Ludicolo (Pokémon)|ison]][[User talk:Garrison12795|12795]] 11:00, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
:Some of these have a very peculiar stance...not that it's bad--[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] 11:02, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
::I Lol'd at Pachirisu, plus te buizel sprite whihc isnt here makes it look funny.[[User:David aipom|Davidaipom]] 18:42, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

== Getting sprites ==

So, who'll be getting sprites from Platinum for the site? [[User: Tc26|'''tc''']][[User talk: Tc26|'''2''']][[Special: Contributions/Tc26|'''6''']] 10:30, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
:I was working on the Dialga's one some days ago... but it still is just a restoration much like the Shaymin's one. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 22:08, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
::I meant from the game itself when it comes out, not ripping and cleaning from screenshots. [[User: Tc26|'''tc''']][[User talk: Tc26|'''2''']][[Special: Contributions/Tc26|'''6''']] 10:14, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
:::Same guys behind it last time... Zhen and a few of those over at PokéWiki. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 18:40, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
::::So we are just plain getting rid of the older DP standard sprites? That doesn't seem right. [[User:Toastypk|'''''~Toastypk''''']] - [[User_Talk:Toastypk|'''Loom.''']] 14:59, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::Not rid of. We're replacing ###.png as we did when DP came out. The DP sprites will stay at Spr 4d ###.png, however. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:31, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

== Mysterys pokémon = Rotom's new forms ==

in * [http://www.serebii.net Serebii.net] and another pkmn web pages show about the mystery silhouettes as a new forms of rotom
:O RLY? --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 14:36, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
:Yep, and not only that, but the game was released today instead of September 13th as originally stated, as Serebii and some people on TV.com are stating the changes and adding to the websites. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 22:34, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
::Well shit. There goes ''my'' plans for Friday. Now I gotta rushjob the updates... Quick, someone finish the moves! '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:47, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

== Released today ==

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4kPiOdfY7Y

As you can see, this is the Platinum intro, and it's from a DS, and it was just posted today. [[user:Baby G|Baby G]] ([[user talk:Baby G|talk to me]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Baby_G|see my edits]]) 22:42, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
:I bet it's an advance copy. Nintendo often sends games out to popular internet people for them to review and whatever. [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 22:52, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
::Umm, Pikachu135111 and SPDShadowRanger got it as well, and while Pikachu maybe a popular internet reviewer, he isn't even in the same league as other critics. Besides which, SPDShadowRanger isn't really a well-known reviewer (he's more like an informant than an ACTUAL reviewer [By informant, I mean posting recent news, leaked or not on forums for everyone to see, not the "Squealer" kind of informant.].) [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 22:59, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
:::That's called a "leak". Baby G and others, quit treating today as the release date. Nintendo said the 13th and so will this page.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 02:12, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

In no way are Pikachu135111 and myself reviewers. All we do it post the information for the TV.com community. Also I don't know what you classify as "well Known", but I doubt Pikachu is of that class. Also, we DO NOT have the game.

--[[User:HoennMaster|--HoennMaster]] 05:13, 11 September 2008 (UTC) (AKA SPDShadowRanger)

Oh... you... weren't. My mistake. I thought that you did have it since you were commenting on it's changes as if you DID own the game, and as if it DID come out.

It's not a "leak". It's from a DS. [[user:Baby G|Baby G]] ([[user talk:Baby G|talk to me]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Baby_G|see my edits]]) 20:34, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
:Ever heard of an R4? Playing ROMs on actual DSes is possible and ''common''.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 03:19, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
::And even if it's an actual copy of the game, it's entirely possible some import site or Amazon Japan [etc., etc.] simply broke street date...which happened when DP was released in America.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 03:23, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
:::There was a ROM leak. It's a small subject of discussion on 2ch right now. However, most players with legality of ROMs in mind have obtained their Platinums today. --[[User:Kohei|Pizza]][[User talk:Kohei|man]] 10:00, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

==Question==
I noticed many pokemon that are now in the sinnoh dex that werent before (such as gligar elekid houndour and snorunt) not having an in-game location for platinum. is this because they actually dont or cuz that information is not yet known? [[User:Happizelpom|Happi]][[User talk:Happizelpom|zel]][[Special:Contributions/Happizelpom|pom]] 01:12, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
is this
:You think we get all this data at once? It was a couple weeks, if not a couple months, before we had it all up from DP. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:26, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

so what ur saying is that you dont know yet? [[User:Happizelpom|Happi]][[User talk:Happizelpom|zel]][[Special:Contributions/Happizelpom|pom]] 05:06, 14 September 2008 (UTC) also im sorry for asking......

== Dialga and Palkia ==

Sorry if this has already been asked but are bot Dialga and Palkia catchable or do you have to trade them from D/P [[User:PhantomCX|PhantomCX]] 10:49, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
:Spear Pillar, both of them. Dialga before Palkia. [[User: Tc26|'''tc''']][[User talk: Tc26|'''2''']][[Special: Contributions/Tc26|'''6''']] 10:52, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

both of them are met at level 70, heatran at 50, the legendaary birds at 60, turnback cave's giratina chamber in Platinum now leads to a portal to the torn world in which the player can gain t he platinum orb.--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 11:48, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Woa - so let me get this strait - you get to the top of Spear Piller - Battle and (hopefully) catch giratina - then you go finish the elite four & champ then you go back and get both of them - one strait after the other??? [[User:PhantomCX|PhantomCX]] 11:54, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Pokémon Platinum Version/Archive 1

2008-09-15T10:49:17Z

PhantomCX:

Talk:Cross Poison (move)

2008-09-10T14:52:18Z

PhantomCX: New page: == Platinum Standard?? == Hey this is in as updated to Platinum but the TM list is missing – Has it been deleted?? ~~~~

== Platinum Standard?? ==

Hey this is in as updated to Platinum but the TM list is missing – Has it been deleted?? [[User:PhantomCX|PhantomCX]] 14:52, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Signal Beam (move)

2008-09-10T14:40:34Z

PhantomCX:

{{MoveInfobox|
n=58 |
name=Signal Beam |
jname=シグナルビーム|
jtrans=Signal Beam|
desc=The user attacks with a sinister beam of light. It may also [[Status ailment#Confusion|confuse]] the target. |
gameimage=Signal_Beam_Game.jpg |
type=Bug |
damagecategory=Special |
basepp=15 |
maxpp=24 |
power=75 |
accuracy=100 |
bdesc=Has a 10% chance of {{status|Confusion|confusing}} the foe. |
gen=III |
category=Beauty |
appeal=3 |
jam=0 |
cdesc=Randomizes the order of appeals on the next turn. |
touches=no |
protect=yes |
magiccoat=no |
snatch=no |
brightpowder=yes |
kingsrock=yes |
flag7=no |
flag8=no |
sound=no |
footnotes=
}}
'''Signal Beam''' is a damage-dealing {{type2|Bug}} move introduced in [[Generation III]].

==In the anime==
<gallery>
Image:Signal_Beam_Anime.jpg|Volbeat using '''Signal Beam'''.
</gallery>
A pink, light blue and yellow tornado with each color next to the other spirals towards the foe.
===Pokémon===
'''{{p|Volbeat}}'''. The beam is created between its antennae.
* Used by [[Romeo]]'s Volbeats in [[AG042|''Love at First Flight'']].

==Learnset==
===Generation III===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{Learnlist|Bug}}
{{Moveentry|087|Dewgong|2|Water|Ice|--|||FRLG}}
{{Moveentry|313|Volbeat|1|Bug||25|'''}}
{{Learnlist/footer}}
====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
{{Breedlist|Bug}}
{{Moveentry|048|Venonat|2|Bug|Poison|{{p|Spinarak}}, {{p|Ariados}} {{p|Yanma}} {{p|Volbeat}}|'''}}
{{Moveentry|167|Spinarak|2|Bug|Poison|{{p|Venonat}}, {{p|Venomoth}} {{p|Yanma}} {{p|Volbeat}}|'''}}
{{Moveentry|193|Yanma|2|Bug|Flying|{{p|Venonat}}, {{p|Venomoth}} {{p|Spinarak}}, {{p|Ariados}} {{p|Volbeat}}|'''}}
{{Learnlist/footer}}
===[[Generation IV]]===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{Learnlist|Bug}}
{{Moveentry|048|Venonat|2|Bug|Poison|35|'''}}
{{Moveentry|049|Venomoth|2|Bug|Poison|37|'''}}
{{Moveentry|087|Dewgong|2|Water|Ice|-- 7}}
{{Moveentry|137|Porygon|1|Normal||29}}
{{Moveentry|170|Chinchou|2|Water|Electric|31}}
{{Moveentry|171|Lanturn|2|Water|Electric|35}}
{{Moveentry|179|Mareep|1|Electric||32}}
{{Moveentry|180|Flaaffy|1|Electric||36}}
{{Moveentry|181|Ampharos|1|Electric||42}}
{{Moveentry|223|Remoraid|1|Water||--}}
{{Moveentry|224|Octillery|1|Water||36}}
{{Moveentry|226|Mantine|2|Water|Flying|42}}
{{Moveentry|233|Porygon2|1|Normal||29}}
{{Moveentry|313|Volbeat|1|Bug||25|'''}}
{{Moveentry|474|Porygon-Z|1|Normal||29}}
{{Learnlist/footer}}
====By breeding====
{{Breedlist|Bug}}
{{Moveentry|048|Venonat|2|Bug|Poison|{{p|Venonat}}, {{p|Venomoth}} {{p|Spinarak}}, {{p|Ariados}} {{p|Yanma}} {{p|Volbeat}}|'''}}
{{Moveentry|086|Seel|1|Water||{{p|Dewgong}} {{p|Remoraid}}, {{p|Octillery}} {{p|Mareep}}, {{p|Flaaffy}}, {{p|Ampharos}}}}
{{Moveentry|167|Spinarak|2|Bug|Poison|{{p|Venonat}}, {{p|Venomoth}} {{p|Yanma}} {{p|Volbeat}}|'''}}
{{Moveentry|193|Yanma|2|Bug|Flying|{{p|Venonat}}, {{p|Venomoth}} {{p|Spinarak}}, {{p|Ariados}} {{p|Volbeat}}|'''}}
{{Moveentry|211|Qwilfish|2|Water|Poison|{{p|Chinchou}}, {{p|Lanturn}} {{p|Remoraid}}, {{p|Octillery}}}}
{{Moveentry|283|Surskit|2|Bug|Water|{{p|Venonat}}, {{p|Venomoth}} {{p|Spinarak}}, {{p|Ariados}} {{p|Remoraid}}, {{p|Octillery}} {{p|Yanma}} {{p|Volbeat}}|'''}}
{{Moveentry|363|Spheal|2|Ice|Water|{{p|Remoraid}}, {{p|Octillery}} {{p|Mareep}}, {{p|Flaaffy}}, {{p|Ampharos}}}}
{{Moveentry|458|Mantyke|2|Water|Flying|{{p|Remoraid}}, {{p|Octillery}} {{p|Mantine}}}}
{{Learnlist/footer}}

==In other languages==
* Spanish: '''doble rayo'''
* Italian: '''Segnoraggio'''

{{Project MoveDex notice}}

[[de:Ampelleuchte]]
[[ja:シグナルビーム]]
[[pt:Signal Beam]]

User:PhantomCX

2008-09-10T14:37:53Z

PhantomCX:

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== Hi ==

== Me ==

My name is Chris and I come from England. I’ve been a fan of Pokémon now for nearly eight years and over that time I have owned all of the mainstream games as well as all the Stadiums, Colosseums and I now own PBR. My enjoyment started when I was at school in a Physics lesson. One of my mates was playing Pokémon Blue under the desk and he was seriously addicted to it, at lunch he let me have a look at it and bang I was hooked. The next day I went straight out and bought Pokémon Red. The rest is history.

== My Links ==

'''[[User:PhantomCX/Generation V]]'''
This is where I put my ideas for for the next Generation
'''[[User:PhantomCX/Operation ALP]]'''
This is where you will find the details on my ALP

== My Game Rankings ==

'''Pokémon {{2v2|Red|Blue}}'''

The alpha Pokémon games - brilliant at there time but look dated now and have kind of been replaced by {{2v2|FireRed|LeafGreen}}. These are still the only games in which you can complete the [[National Pokédex]] with out any cheat devices.

'''Pokémon {{v2|Yellow}}'''

Getting all three starter Pokémon from {{2v2|Red|Blue}}- Fantastic!! Improved graphics and a good take on the first season of the Anime.

'''Pokémon {{2v2|Gold|Silver}}'''

Second best, but only to the games improved version, {{v2|Crystal}}. A huge step up from Generation {{Gen|I}}, which was also, in the scale of games in general, brilliant, & along with {{v2|Crystal}}, the only games to date where it is possible to get 16 badges!!!

'''Pokémon {{v2|Crystal}}'''

By far the best game released in my opinion. See comments on {{2v2|Gold|Silver}} its that and better.

'''Pokémon {{2v2|Ruby|Sapphire}}'''

I was pretty disappointed in these games, I thought many of the new Pokémon introduced just did not stand out like those of the previous Generations, I thought [[Hoenn]] was rather rushed together and could have been a much more interesting & I also thought they left way to many Pokémon out at the time of release although {{2v2|FireRed|LeafGreen}} did help to fill that gap when they came out.

'''Pokémon {{2v2|FireRed|LeafGreen}}'''

Although there remakes I still rate them very high. Loads more to do than the originals and real improvement on the other Generation {{Gen|III}} games.

'''Pokémon {{v2|Emerald}}'''

Ok - I won’t deny I was really not a fan of the {{2v2|Ruby|Sapphire}} Games, one of the reasons is because of the layout of [[Hoenn]] and that’s why {{v2|Emerald}} suffers. I do think it is a major improvement on {{2v2|Ruby|Sapphire}} but it’s stuck in the same region which just lets it down.

'''Pokémon {{2v2|Diamond|Pearl}}'''

These are, in many ways, the best game out, but in some ways it has also gone backwards. By the end of the Generation {{Gen|II}} there were some types that were just better because the certain Pokémon of those types were stronger than the Pokémon of other types. By the end of the Generation {{Gen|III}} I feel this gap had been closed somewhat but I thought {{2v2|Diamond|Pearl}} started to reverse this process - still one hell of a game mind.

== My Pokémon ==

{{Team|
|#1=[[Image:229.png]]
|Poke1={{p|Houndoom}}
|LV1=Lv. 72
|G1=♂
|HI1= Scope Lens
|M1P1={{M|Fire Blast}}
|M2P1={{M|Sludge Bomb}}
|M3P1={{M|Dark Pulse}}
|M4P1={{M|Flamethrower}}

|#2=[[Image:150.png]]
|Poke2={{p|Mewtwo}}
|LV2=Lv. 80
|G2=
|HI2= Expert Belt
|M1P2={{M|Ice Beam}}
|M2P2={{M|Shadow Ball}}
|M3P2={{M|Thunderbolt}}
|M4P2={{M|Psychic}}

|#3=[[Image:448.png]]
|Poke3={{p|Lucario}}
|LV3=Lv. 70
|G3=♂
|HI3=Quick Claw
|M1P3={{M|Aura Sphere}}
|M2P3={{M|Dark Pulse}}
|M3P3={{M|Dragon Pulse}}
|M4P3={{M|Flash Cannon}}

|#4=[[Image:382.png]]
|Poke4={{p|Kyogre}}
|LV4=Lv. 62
|G4=
|HI4=
|M1P4={{M|Water Spout}}
|M2P4={{M|Thunder}}
|M3P4={{M|Ice Beam}}
|M4P4={{M|Surf}}

|#5=[[Image:384.png]]
|Poke5={{p|Rayquaza }}
|LV5=Lv. 71
|G5=
|HI5=None
|M1P5={{M|Ice Beam}}
|M2P5={{M|Draco Meteor}}
|M3P5={{M|Dragon Pulse}}
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|#6=[[Image:145.png]]
|Poke6={{p|Zapdos}}
|LV6=Lv. 45
|G6=
|HI6=None
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|M3P6={{M|Extrasensory}}
|M4P6={{M|Drill Peck}}
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User:PhantomCX/Generation V

2008-09-09T13:43:38Z

PhantomCX:

Please note the below are only ideas and opinions of PCX & as of Generation IV are only that. So if you don’t wanna read me waffling on about some (IMO) great ideas for gen V please ignore all of the following. If you have any ideas please feel free to let me have any of your ideas on the talk page.

== What I would Like to see in Generation V ==

== Moves & Abilities ==

'''Duel Type Moves'''

I think it would be great (as well as a little complicated) if they introduced duel type moves. They already have loads which would be excellent candidates to start this (Muddy Water – Ground / Water type?? The Elemental Punches – Fighting / *Element). Other moves could be added e.g. PyroKinesis (Fire / Psychic) Thunder Storm (Electric / Water) to increase the move pool. You could also then look into combos in duel battles, e.g. Thunder Bolt & Water Pulse could combine in to a move that would be Electric and Water type and hold a chance of confusing and or paralyzing opponents or a combination of flamethrower and ice beam could combine to make a water type attack that could burn or freeze.

'''Only Four Moves???'''

I would also love to see an overhaul of the moves learned system.

1 – I would change the natural moves each Pokémon learnt maybe adding a few, maybe taking some off.

2 – With point 1 done, change the limit of 4 moves to 4 TM / Move Tutor moves and the Pokémon retain there knowledge of all there naturally learned moves as well as moves learned via breeding.

3 – Finally give each Pokémon species a “Signature Move” or moves and by this I don’t necessarily mean a move only it learns (although that wouldn’t be a bad thing) but maybe one that regardless, that species gets an boost for (either power or accuracy)

'''Abolish (HM) Slavery'''

I’m sure that most of us use a HM Slave? This is the one thing I believe truly lets the main games down due to how poor most of the moves perform in battles. Surf, Fly & Waterfall have there uses, Strength, Dive and Rock climb aren’t bad but are not great either & lets be honest the rest pretty much suck (No seriously). What I think they should do is have each Pokémon species be able to do these certain things with out it being an actual move – then maybe have NPCS dotted around the game who advise you to, “use a Pokémon to cut small trees down” or, “use a Pokémon to smash cracked rocks”

'''Abilities'''

I would like to see Pokémon that can have one of two abilities able to learn both – maybe learn a second ability upon evolution, e.g. have Scyther learn Technician then when it evolves, it also learns swarm?

== Types I would like to see more & less of ==

Ok here’s the deal. I have made a rough count of every fully evolved species of Pokémon by type - Way out in front with a total of 49 different fully evolved types (29 of which were duel type) was Water Type. It has 7 more than normal type which has 42 (only 11 of which were duel type and all but two of those were Normal / Flying) different fully evolved types. The worst represented was the Ghost Type with 11 (8 of which are duel types) and it was not far off the Dragon Type which had 12 (all of which were duel type) different fully evolved types, although in the Dragons case it maybe a good idea to keep the numbers low so as to not lower there value .

I think this shows that generation V should maybe hold back on water types - even to the point that the only fully evolved water type is the starter and may be in crease all the others. as you can see from the table below some types need more single types and others maybe a bit more variation by introducing duel types.

{|
|Type
|No. of single type
fully evolved Pokémon
|No. of duel type
fully evolved Pokémon
|Total
|-
|{{t|Ghost}}
|3
|8
|11
|-
|{{t|Dragon}}
|0
|12
|12
|-
|{{t|Electric}}
|11
|4
|15
|-
|{{t|Ice}}
|3
|12
|15
|-
|{{t|Fighting}}
|6
|9
|15
|-
|{{t|Dark}}
|4
|12
|16
|-
|{{t|Fire}}
|8
|9
|17
|-
|{{t|Steel}}
|2
|15
|17
|-
|{{t|Rock}}
|3
|18
|21
|-
|{{t|Poison}}
|5
|17
|22
|-
|{{t|Bug}}
|3
|20
|23
|-
|{{t|Ground}}
|6
|18
|24
|-
|{{t|Grass}}
|9
|17
|26
|-
|{{t|Psychic}}
|16
|19
|35
|-
|{{t|Flying}}
|0
|40
|40
|-
|{{t|Normal}}
|31
|11
|42
|-
|{{t|Water}}
|20
|29
|49
|}

== Pokémon who's types I would change ==

I think that some of the tyres that some of the current Pokémon have just don't seem right - below is a list of things types I would change

{|
|{{p|Charizard}}
|{{ani|006}}
|{{ic|Fire}} {{ic|Flying}}
|'''to'''
|{{ic|Fire}} {{ic|Dragon}}
|-
|{{p|Psyduck}}
|{{ani|054}}
|{{ic|Water}}
|'''to'''
|{{ic|Water}} {{ic|Psychic}}
|-
|{{p|Golduck}}
|{{ani|055}}
|{{ic|Water}}
|'''to'''
|{{ic|Water}} {{ic|Psychic}}
|-
|{{p|Cloyster}}
|{{ani|091}}
|{{ic|Water}} {{ic|Ice}}
|'''to'''
|{{ic|Water}} {{ic|Steel}}
|-
|{{p|Gastly}}
|{{ani|092}}
|{{ic|Ghost}} {{ic|Poison}}
|'''to'''
|{{ic|Ghost}}
|-
|{{p|Haunter}}
|{{ani|093}}
|{{ic|Ghost}} {{ic|Poison}}
|'''to'''
|{{ic|Ghost}}
|-
|{{p|Gengar}}
|{{ani|094}}
|{{ic|Ghost}} {{ic|Poison}}
|'''to'''
|{{ic|Ghost}}
|-
|{{p|Gyarados}}
|{{ani|130}}
|{{ic|Water}} {{ic|Flying}}
|'''to'''
|{{ic|Water}} {{ic|Dragon}}
|-
|{{p|Croconaw}}
|{{ani|159}}
|{{ic|Water}}
|'''to'''
|{{ic|Water}} {{ic|Dark}}
|-
|{{p|Feraligatr}}
|{{ani|160}}
|{{ic|Water}}
|'''to'''
|{{ic|Water}} {{ic|Dark}}
|-
|{{p|Dunsparce}}
|{{ani|206}}
|{{ic|Normal}}
|'''to'''
|{{ic|Ground}}
|-
|{{p|Shroomish}}
|{{ani|285}}
|{{ic|Grass}}
|'''to'''
|{{ic|Grass}} {{ic|Poison}}
|-
|{{p|Torkoal}}
|{{ani|324}}
|{{ic|Fire}}
|'''to'''
|{{ic|Fire}} {{ic|Rock}}
|-
|{{p|Seviper}}
|{{ani|336}}
|{{ic|Poison}}
|'''to'''
|{{ic|Dark}} {{ic|Poison}}
|-
|{{p|Milotic}}
|{{ani|350}}
|{{ic|Water}}
|'''to'''
|{{ic|Dragon}} {{ic|Water}}
|-
|{{p|Glalie}}
|{{ani|362}}
|{{ic|Ice}}
|'''to'''
|{{ic|Ice}} {{ic|Steel}}
|-
|{{p|Groundon}}
|{{ani|383}}
|{{ic|Ground}}
|'''to'''
|{{ic|Ground}} {{ic|Fire}}
|-
|{{p|Staraptor}}
|{{ani|398}}
|{{ic|Normal}} {{ic|Flying}}
|'''to'''
|{{ic|Fighting}} {{ic|Flying}}
|-
|{{p|Electivire}}
|{{ani|466}}
|{{ic|Electric}}
|'''to'''
|{{ic|Electric}} {{ic|Fighting}}
|-
|{{p|Gliscor}}
|{{ani|472}}
|{{ic|Ground}} {{ic|Flying}}
|'''to'''
|{{ic|Ground}} {{ic|Dark}}
|-
|{{p|Dusknoir}}
|{{ani|477}}
|{{ic|Ghost}}
|'''to'''
|{{ic|Ghost}} {{ic|Fighting}}
|-
|{{p|Darkrai}}
|{{ani|491}}
|{{ic|Dark}}
|'''to'''
|{{ic|Dark}} {{ic|Ghost}}
|}

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2008-09-09T12:36:48Z

PhantomCX:

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== Hi ==

== Me ==

My name is Chris and I come from England. I’ve been a fan of Pokémon now for nearly eight years and over that time I have owned all of the mainstream games as well as all the Stadiums, Colosseums and I now own PBR. My enjoyment started when I was at school in a Physics lesson. One of my mates was playing Pokémon Blue under the desk and he was seriously addicted to it, at lunch he let me have a look at it and bang I was hooked. The next day I went straight out and bought Pokémon Red. The rest is history.

== My Links ==

'''[[User:PhantomCX/Generation V]]'''
This is where I put my ideas for for the next Generation
'''[[User:PhantomCX/Operation ALP]]'''
This is where you will find the details on my ALP

== My Game Rankings ==

'''Pokémon {{2v2|Red|Blue}}'''

The alpha Pokémon games - brilliant at there time but look dated now and have kind of been replaced by {{2v2|FireRed|LeafGreen}}. These are still the only games in which you can complete the [[National Pokédex]] with out any cheat devices.

'''Pokémon {{v2|Yellow}}'''

Getting all three starter Pokémon from {{2v2|Red|Blue}}- Fantastic!! Improved graphics and a good take on the first season of the Anime.

'''Pokémon {{2v2|Gold|Silver}}'''

Second best, but only to the games improved version, {{v2|Crystal}}. A huge step up from Generation {{Gen|I}}, which was also, in the scale of games in general, brilliant, & along with {{v2|Crystal}}, the only games to date where it is possible to get 16 badges!!!

'''Pokémon {{v2|Crystal}}'''

By far the best game released in my opinion. See comments on {{2v2|Gold|Silver}} its that and better.

'''Pokémon {{2v2|Ruby|Sapphire}}'''

I was pretty disappointed in these games, I thought many of the new Pokémon introduced just did not stand out like those of the previous Generations, I thought [[Hoenn]] was rather rushed together and could have been a much more interesting & I also thought they left way to many Pokémon out at the time of release although {{2v2|FireRed|LeafGreen}} did help to fill that gap when they came out.

'''Pokémon {{2v2|FireRed|LeafGreen}}'''

Although there remakes I still rate them very high. Loads more to do than the originals and real improvement on the other Generation {{Gen|III}} games.

'''Pokémon {{v2|Emerald}}'''

Ok - I won’t deny I was really not a fan of the {{2v2|Ruby|Sapphire}} Games, one of the reasons is because of the layout of [[Hoenn]] and that’s why {{v2|Emerald}} suffers. I do think it is a major improvement on {{2v2|Ruby|Sapphire}} but it’s stuck in the same region which just lets it down.

'''Pokémon {{2v2|Diamond|Pearl}}'''

These are, in many ways, the best game out, but in some ways it has also gone backwards. By the end of the Generation {{Gen|II}} there were some types that were just better because the certain Pokémon of those types were stronger than the Pokémon of other types. By the end of the Generation {{Gen|III}} I feel this gap had been closed somewhat but I thought {{2v2|Diamond|Pearl}} started to reverse this process - still one hell of a game mind.

== My Pokémon ==

{{Team|
|#1=[[Image:229.png]]
|Poke1={{p|Houndoom}}
|LV1=Lv. 72
|G1=♂
|HI1= Scope Lens
|M1P1={{M|Fire Blast}}
|M2P1={{M|Sludge Bomb}}
|M3P1={{M|Dark Pulse}}
|M4P1={{M|Flamethrower}}

|#2=[[Image:150.png]]
|Poke2={{p|Mewtwo}}
|LV2=Lv. 80
|G2=
|HI2= Expert Belt
|M1P2={{M|Ice Beam}}
|M2P2={{M|Shadow Ball}}
|M3P2={{M|Thunderbolt}}
|M4P2={{M|Psychic}}

|#3=[[Image:448.png]]
|Poke3={{p|Lucario}}
|LV3=Lv. 70
|G3=♂
|HI3=Quick Claw
|M1P3={{M|Aura Sphere}}
|M2P3={{M|Dark Pulse}}
|M3P3={{M|Dragon Pulse}}
|M4P3={{M|Flash Cannon}}

|#4=[[Image:382.png]]
|Poke4={{p|Kyogre}}
|LV4=Lv. 62
|G4=
|HI4=
|M1P4={{M|Water Spout}}
|M2P4={{M|Thunder}}
|M3P4={{M|Ice Beam}}
|M4P4={{M|Surf}}

|#5=[[Image:384.png]]
|Poke5={{p|Rayquaza }}
|LV5=Lv. 71
|G5=
|HI5=None
|M1P5={{M|Ice Beam}}
|M2P5={{M|Draco Meteor}}
|M3P5={{M|Dragon Pulse}}
|M4P5={{M|Thunderbolt}}

|#6=[[Image:145.png]]
|Poke6={{p|Zapdos}}
|LV6=Lv. 45
|G6=
|HI6=None
|M1P6={{M|Thunder}}
|M2P6={{M|Thunderbolt}}
|M3P6={{M|Extrasensory}}
|M4P6={{M|Drill Peck}}
}}

Stargazer Colosseum

2008-09-02T09:32:10Z

PhantomCX: Minor Edit

{{incomplete}}
{{cleanup}}
Stargazer Colosseum is the final Colosseum in Pokémon Battle Revolution. The battle theme is Master Battles. The Colosseum leader is Colosseum Leader Mysterial.

Taking place inside a large domed building, the stadium is thematically set on a meteor in space, The round stadium is surrounded by 4 large towers containing spectators, and the area around the battle field resembles space rock. The entire inner surface of the dome is made of television sets the broadcast an image of outer space, with many shooting stars.

The first round is simply a rematch with all the Colosseum Leaders, culminating in a battle with the Pokétopia Master Mysterial. After you win, the Colosseum hosts Master Battles, a series of sets of trainers all using highly advanced combos and techniques. Once one set of trainers is defeated, another set is unlocked for you to challenge. There are 8 sets of 4 trainers, increasing in difficulty as it goes on, with some trainers getting legnedary Pokémon. Any unlocked set can be re-challenged at any time.
Some of the Colosseum Masters (Namely Joe, Sashay, Kruger & Pokétopia Master Mysterial, each apearing twice) appear as the final trainer in each of the 8 sets.

=Round One=
==Battle 1==
===[[Colosseum Leader]] Taylor===
{|border="1" style="border: 1px solid #000; border-collapse: collapse;" width=400px cellspacing="0"
|-
| align=center | [[Image:417.png]] {{p|Pachirisu}}
| align=center | [[Image:404.png]] {{p|Luxio}}
| align=center | [[Image:370.png]] {{p|Luvdisc}}
|-
| align=center | [[Image:039.png]] {{p|Jigglypuff}}
| align=center | [[Image:281.png]] {{p|Kirlia}}
| align=center | [[Image:438.png]] {{p|Bonsly}}
|}

==Battle 2==
===[[Colosseum Leader]] Marina===
{|border="1" style="border: 1px solid #000; border-collapse: collapse;" width=400px cellspacing="0"
|-
| align=center | [[Image:222.png]] {{p|Corsola}}
| align=center | [[Image:183.png]] {{p|Marill}}
| align=center | [[Image:083.png]] {{p|Farfetch'd}}
|-
| align=center | [[Image:190.png]] {{p|Aipom}}
| align=center | [[Image:166.png]] {{p|Ledian}}
| align=center | [[Image:061.png]] {{p|Poliwhirl}}
|}

==Battle 3==
===[[Colosseum Leader]] Rosie===
{|border="1" style="border: 1px solid #000; border-collapse: collapse;" width=400px cellspacing="0"
|-
| align=center | [[Image:301.png]] {{p|Delcatty}}
| align=center | [[Image:267.png]] {{p|Beautifly}}
| align=center | [[Image:070.png]] {{p|Weepinbell}}
|-
| align=center | [[Image:188.png]] {{p|Skiploom}}
| align=center | [[Image:192.png]] {{p|Sunflora}}
| align=center | [[Image:315.png]] {{p|Roselia}}
|}

==Battle 4==
===[[Colosseum Leader]] Voldon===
{|border="1" style="border: 1px solid #000; border-collapse: collapse;" width=400px cellspacing="0"
|-
| align=center | [[Image:067.png]] {{p|Machoke}}
| align=center | [[Image:095.png]] {{p|Onix}}
| align=center | [[Image:375.png]] {{p|Metang}}
|-
| align=center | [[Image:239.png]] {{p|Elekid}}
| align=center | [[Image:479.png]] {{p|Rotom}}
| align=center | [[Image:455.png]] {{p|Carnivine}}
|}

==Battle 5==
===[[Colosseum Leader]] Terrell===
{|border="1" style="border: 1px solid #000; border-collapse: collapse;" width=400px cellspacing="0"
|-
| align=center | [[Image:005.png]] {{p|Charmeleon}}
| align=center | [[Image:156.png]] {{p|Quilava}}
| align=center | [[Image:391.png]] {{p|Monferno}}
|-
| align=center | [[Image:388.png]] {{p|Grotle}}
| align=center | [[Image:028.png]] {{p|Sandslash}}
| align=center | [[Image:394.png]] {{p|Prinplup}}
|}

==Semifinal==
===[[Colosseum Leader]] Dusty===
{|border="1" style="border: 1px solid #000; border-collapse: collapse;" width=400px cellspacing="0"
|-
| align=center | [[Image:447.png]] {{p|Riolu}}
| align=center | [[Image:253.png]] {{p|Grovyle}}
| align=center | [[Image:288.png]] {{p|Vigoroth}}
|-
| align=center | [[Image:404.png]] {{p|Luxio}}
| align=center | [[Image:444.png]] {{p|Gabite}}
| align=center | [[Image:256.png]] {{p|Combusken}}
|}

==Final==
===[[Pokétopia Master]] [[Mysterial]]===
{|border="1" style="border: 1px solid #000; border-collapse: collapse;" width=400px cellspacing="0"
|-
| align=center | [[Image:042.png]] {{p|Golbat}}
| align=center | [[Image:148.png]] {{p|Dragonair}}
| align=center | [[Image:340.png]] {{p|Whiscash}}
|-
| align=center | [[Image:093.png]] {{p|Haunter}}
| align=center | [[Image:099.png]] {{p|Kingler}}
| align=center | [[Image:113.png]] {{p|Chansey}}
|}

=Set One=
==Battle 1==
===[[Master Class]] Chance===
{|border="1" style="border: 1px solid #000; border-collapse: collapse;" width=400px cellspacing="0"
|-
| align=center | [[Image:Spr_4d_413G.png]] {{p|Wormadam}}
| align=center | [[Image:267.png]] {{p|Beautifly}}
| align=center | [[Image:269.png]] {{p|Dustox}}
|-
| align=center | [[Image:402.png]] {{p|Kricketune}}
| align=center | [[Image:414.png]] {{p|Mothim}}
| align=center | [[Image:416.png]] {{p|Vespiquen}}
|}

==Battle 2==
===[[Master Class]] Kerry===
{|border="1" style="border: 1px solid #000; border-collapse: collapse;" width=400px cellspacing="0"
|-
| align=center | [[Image:308.png]] {{p|Medicham}}
| align=center | [[Image:068.png]] {{p|Machamp}}
| align=center | [[Image:428.png]] {{p|Lopunny}}
|-
| align=center | [[Image:195.png]] {{p|Quagsire}}
| align=center | [[Image:279.png]] {{p|Pelipper}}
| align=center | [[Image:185.png]] {{p|Sudowoodo}}
|}

==Semifinal==
===[[Joe Groupie]] Kelsey===
{|border="1" style="border: 1px solid #000; border-collapse: collapse;" width=400px cellspacing="0"
|-
| align=center | [[Image:432.png]] {{p|Purugly}}
| align=center | [[Image:426.png]] {{p|Drifblim}}
| align=center | [[Image:122.png]] {{p|Mr. Mime}}
|-
| align=center | [[Image:405.png]] {{p|Luxray}}
| align=center | [[Image:203.png]] {{p|Girafarig}}
| align=center | [[Image:417.png]] {{p|Pachirisu}}
|}

==Final==
===[[Colosseum Master]] Joe===
{|border="1" style="border: 1px solid #000; border-collapse: collapse;" width=400px cellspacing="0"
|-
| align=center | [[Image:392.png]] {{p|Infernape}}
| align=center | [[Image:389.png]] {{p|Torterra}}
| align=center | [[Image:395.png]] {{p|Empoleon}}
|-
| align=center | [[Image:025.png]] {{p|Pikachu}}
| align=center | [[Image:190.png]] {{p|Aipom}}
| align=center | [[Image:398.png]] {{p|Staraptor}}
|}

=Set Two=
==Battle 1==
===[[Master Class]] Erica===
{|border="1" style="border: 1px solid #000; border-collapse: collapse;" width=400px cellspacing="0"
|-
| align=center | [[Image:164.png]] {{p|Noctowl}}
| align=center | [[Image:455.png]] {{p|Carnivine}}
| align=center | [[Image:407.png]] {{p|Roserade}}
|-
| align=center | [[Image:208.png]] {{p|Steelix}}
| align=center | [[Image:428.png]] {{p|Lopunny}}
| align=center | [[Image:242.png]] {{p|Blissey}}
|}

==Battle 2==
===[[Master Class]] Jaden===
{|border="1" style="border: 1px solid #000; border-collapse: collapse;" width=400px cellspacing="0"
|-
| align=center | [[Image:452.png]] {{p|Drapion}}
| align=center | [[Image:400.png]] {{p|Bibarel}}
| align=center | [[Image:073.png]] {{p|Tentacruel}}
|-
| align=center | [[Image:424.png]] {{p|Ambipom}}
| align=center | [[Image:119.png]] {{p|Seaking}}
| align=center | [[Image:358.png]] {{p|Chimecho}}
|}

==Semifinal==
===[[Sashay Fan Club]] Jay===
{|border="1" style="border: 1px solid #000; border-collapse: collapse;" width=400px cellspacing="0"
|-
| align=center | [[Image:169.png]] {{p|Crobat}}
| align=center | [[Image:350.png]] {{p|Milotic}}
| align=center | [[Image:055.png]] {{p|Golduck}}
|-
| align=center | [[Image:279.png]] {{p|Pelipper}}
| align=center | [[Image:421.png]] {{p|Cherrim}}
| align=center | [[Image:078.png]] {{p|Rapidash}}
|}

==Final==
===[[Colosseum Master]] Sashay===
{|border="1" style="border: 1px solid #000; border-collapse: collapse;" width=400px cellspacing="0"
|-
| align=center | [[Image:026.png]] {{p|Raichu}}
| align=center | [[Image:094.png]] {{p|Gengar}}
| align=center | [[Image:461.png]] {{p|Weavile}}
|-
| align=center | [[Image:429.png]] {{p|Mismagius}}
| align=center | [[Image:416.png]] {{p|Vespiquen}}
| align=center | [[Image:442.png]] {{p|Spiritomb}}
|}
{{gamestub}}
{{Colosseums}}
[[Category:Games]]
[[Category:Battle Revolution locations]]

[[de:Colosseum Sterngucker]]

Rock (type)

2008-08-29T11:50:29Z

PhantomCX:

{{ElementalTypes}}
{{TypeNotice|Rock|いわ|Iwa}}
Notable trainers that specialize in the Rock-type include [[Brock]] of [[Pewter City]], [[Roxanne]] of [[Rustboro City]] and [[Roark]] of [[Oreburgh City]]. They are, notably, all the first [[Gym Leader]] encountered in their respective regions.

==Statistical averages==

{{BaseStats|
HP=63 |
Attack=81 |
Defense=112 |
SpAtk=57 |
SpDef=71 |
Speed=48 }}

==Battle properties==
Rock-type moves:
*Are super-effective against: {{t|Bug}}, {{t|Fire}}, {{t|Flying}}, {{t|Ice}}
*Are not very effective against: {{t|Fighting}}, {{t|Ground}}, {{t|Steel}}
* Have no effect against: None
Rock-type Pokémon:
*Resist: {{t|Normal}}, {{t|Fire}}, {{t|Flying}}, {{t|Poison}}
*Are weak to: {{t|Fighting}}, {{t|Grass}}, {{t|Ground}}, {{t|Steel}}, {{t|Water}}
*Have immunity to: None

==Characteristics==
Defensively, the Rock-type is outstanding. However, they are weak to five types, two of which are Special-based (until [[Generation IV]]), an area Rock-types are not particularly strong in. On the other hand, they are also strong against four types. Compounding this large number of weaknesses is the fact that many Rock types are dual-types with {{t|Ground}} or {{t|Water}}, giving them a large vulnerability to {{type2|Grass}} moves. Dual-typed with {{t|Steel}} also gives the Rock type a large disadvantage with {{t|Ground}}, although due to their high defense they will still be highly resistant to most Ground attacks. Their Sp. Def also increases in sandstorms.

Offensively, the Rock-type isn't as reliable. They hit the Flying-type for super-effective damage, which is good because the Flying-type is common in the games. The Rock-type also has powerful moves like {{m|Stone Edge}}. But overall, the Rock-type is not a very good choice for offense, since the types it is strong against are sometimes paired with the types it is not very effective against, e.g. {{p|Infernape}}, {{p|Heracross}} and {{p|Skarmory}}, all of which are commonly used in the metagame.

==Pokémon==

===Pure Rock-type Pokémon===
{| {{Bluetable|background: white; margin: auto;}}
|- style="background: #ccf;"
! #
!
! Name

|-
|185
|[[Image:185MS.gif]]
|{{p|Sudowoodo}}
|-
|299
|[[Image:299MS.gif]]
|{{p|Nosepass}}
|-
|377
|[[Image:377MS.gif]]
|{{p|Regirock}}
|-
|408
|[[Image:408MS.png]]
|{{p|Cranidos}}
|-
|409
|[[Image:409MS.png]]
|{{p|Rampardos}}
|-
|438
|[[Image:438MS.png]]
|{{p|Bonsly}}
|}

===Half Rock-type Pokémon===

''Primary Rock-type Pokémon''
{| {{Bluetable|background: white; margin: auto;}}
|- style="background: #ccf;"
! #
!
! Name
! Type 1
! Type 2
|-
|074
|[[Image:074MS.gif]]
|{{p|Geodude}}
| align="center" |[[Image:RockIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:GroundIC.gif]]
|-
|075
|[[Image:075MS.gif]]
|{{p|Graveler}}
| align="center" |[[Image:RockIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:GroundIC.gif]]
|-
|076
|[[Image:076MS.gif]]
|{{p|Golem}}
| align="center" |[[Image:RockIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:GroundIC.gif]]
|-
|095
|[[Image:095MS.gif]]
|{{p|Onix}}
| align="center" |[[Image:RockIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:GroundIC.gif]]
|-
|138
|[[Image:138MS.gif]]
|{{p|Omanyte}}
| align="center" |[[Image:RockIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:WaterIC.gif]]
|-
|139
|[[Image:139MS.gif]]
|{{p|Omastar}}
| align="center" |[[Image:RockIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:WaterIC.gif]]
|-
|140
|[[Image:140MS.gif]]
|{{p|Kabuto}}
| align="center" |[[Image:RockIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:WaterIC.gif]]
|-
|141
|[[Image:141MS.gif]]
|{{p|Kabutops}}
| align="center" |[[Image:RockIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:WaterIC.gif]]
|-
|142
|[[Image:142MS.gif]]
|{{p|Aerodactyl}}
| align="center" |[[Image:RockIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:FlyingIC.gif]]
|-
|246
|[[Image:246MS.gif]]
|{{p|Larvitar}}
| align="center" |[[Image:RockIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:GroundIC.gif]]
|-
|247
|[[Image:247MS.gif]]
|{{p|Pupitar}}
| align="center" |[[Image:RockIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:GroundIC.gif]]
|-
|248
|[[Image:248MS.gif]]
|{{p|Tyranitar}}
| align="center" |[[Image:RockIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:DarkIC.gif]]
|-
|337
|[[Image:337MS.gif]]
|{{p|Lunatone}}
| align="center" |[[Image:RockIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:PsychicIC.gif]]
|-
|338
|[[Image:338MS.gif]]
|{{p|Solrock}}
| align="center" |[[Image:RockIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:PsychicIC.gif]]
|-
|345
|[[Image:345MS.gif]]
|{{p|Lileep}}
| align="center" |[[Image:RockIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:GrassIC.gif]]
|-
|346
|[[Image:346MS.gif]]
|{{p|Cradily}}
| align="center" |[[Image:RockIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:GrassIC.gif]]
|-
|347
|[[Image:347MS.gif]]
|{{p|Anorith}}
| align="center" |[[Image:RockIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:BugIC.gif]]
|-
|348
|[[Image:348MS.gif]]
|{{p|Armaldo}}
| align="center" |[[Image:RockIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:BugIC.gif]]
|-
|410
|[[Image:410MS.png]]
|{{p|Shieldon}}
| align="center" |[[Image:RockIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:SteelIC.gif]]
|-
|411
|[[Image:411MS.png]]
|{{p|Bastiodon}}
| align="center" |[[Image:RockIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:SteelIC.gif]]
|-
|476
|[[Image:476MS.png]]
|{{p|Probopass}}
| align="center" |[[Image:RockIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:SteelIC.gif]]
|}

''Secondary Rock-type Pokémon''
{| {{Bluetable|background: white; margin: auto;}}
|- style="background: #ccf;"
! #
!
! Name
! Type 1
! Type 2
|-
|111
|[[Image:111MS.gif]]
|{{p|Rhyhorn}}
| align="center" |[[Image:GroundIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:RockIC.gif]]
|-
|112
|[[Image:112MS.gif]]
|{{p|Rhydon}}
| align="center" |[[Image:GroundIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:RockIC.gif]]
|-
|213
|[[Image:213MS.gif]]
|{{p|Shuckle}}
| align="center" |[[Image:BugIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:RockIC.gif]]
|-
|219
|[[Image:219MS.gif]]
|{{p|Magcargo}}
| align="center" |[[Image:FireIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:RockIC.gif]]
|-
|222
|[[Image:222MS.gif]]
|{{p|Corsola}}
| align="center" |[[Image:WaterIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:RockIC.gif]]
|-
|304
|[[Image:304MS.gif]]
|{{p|Aron}}
| align="center" |[[Image:SteelIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:RockIC.gif]]
|-
|305
|[[Image:305MS.gif]]
|{{p|Lairon}}
| align="center" |[[Image:SteelIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:RockIC.gif]]
|-
|306
|[[Image:306MS.gif]]
|{{p|Aggron}}
| align="center" |[[Image:SteelIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:RockIC.gif]]
|-
|369
|[[Image:369MS.gif]]
|{{p|Relicanth}}
| align="center" |[[Image:WaterIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:RockIC.gif]]
|-
|464
|[[Image:464MS.png]]
|{{p|Rhyperior}}
| align="center" |[[Image:GroundIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:RockIC.gif]]
|}

==Moves==

===Damage-dealing moves===

{| {{bluetable2|r sortable}} width="100%"
|- class="c"
! Name
! Category
! Contest
! Power
! Accuracy
! PP
! Target
! Notes
|-
| class="l" | {{m|AncientPower}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Special}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Tough}}
| class="c" | 60
| class="c" | 100%
| class="c" | 5
| class="c" | One foe
| class="l" | Has a 10% chance of raising all the user's [[stats]] at once.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Head Smash}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Physical}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Tough}}
| class="c" | 150
| class="c" | 80%
| class="c" | 5
| class="c" | One foe
| class="l" | User takes 50% recoil damage.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Power Gem}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Special}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Beauty}}
| class="c" | 70
| class="c" | 100%
| class="c" | 20
| class="c" | One foe
| class="l" |
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Rock Blast}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Physical}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Tough}}
| class="c" | 25
| class="c" | 80%
| class="c" | 10
| class="c" | One foe
| class="l" | Attacks two to five times in a row.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Rock Slide}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Physical}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Tough}}
| class="c" | 75
| class="c" | 90%
| class="c" | 10
| class="c" | Both foes
| class="l" | Has a 30% chance of making the target {{status|Flinch|flinch}}.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Rock Throw}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Physical}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Tough}}
| class="c" | 50
| class="c" | 90%
| class="c" | 15
| class="c" | One foe
| class="l" |
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Rock Tomb}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Physical}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Smart}}
| class="c" | 50
| class="c" | 80%
| class="c" | 10
| class="c" | One foe
| class="l" | Lowers opponent's {{stat|Speed}}.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Rock Wrecker}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Physical}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Tough}}
| class="c" | 150
| class="c" | 90%
| class="c" | 5
| class="c" | One foe
| class="l" | Attack on first turn, then must rest next turn.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Rollout}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Physical}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Tough}}
| class="c" | 30
| class="c" | 90%
| class="c" | 20
| class="c" | One foe
| class="l" | Attacks up to 5 turns in a row; power doubles with each successive hit.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Stone Edge}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Physical}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Tough}}
| class="c" | 100
| class="c" | 80%
| class="c" | 5
| class="c" | One foe
| class="l" | Has a high critical hit ratio.
|}

===Non-damaging moves===
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! Category
! Contest
! Power
! Accuracy
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! Target
! Notes
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| class="l" | {{m|Rock Polish}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Status}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Tough}}
| class="c" | —
| class="c" | —%
| class="c" | 20
| class="c" | User
| class="l" | Raises user's {{stat|Speed}} 2 levels
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Sandstorm}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Status}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Tough}}
| class="c" | —
| class="c" | —%
| class="c" | 40
| class="c" | One Foe
| class="l" | A five-turn sandstorm is summoned to hurt all combatant types except Rock, {{t|Ground}}, and {{t|Steel}}-types. As of [[Generation IV]] it also boosts the Special Defence of all rock type Pokémon on the battle field
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Stealth Rock}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Status}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Cool}}
| class="c" | —
| class="c" | —%
| class="c" | 20
| class="c" | One Foe
| class="l" | The user lays a trap of levitating stones around the foe. The trap hurts foes that switch into battle.
|}

==Trivia==
* If there were a hypothetical Pokémon of all 17 types, it would only be weak to Rock-type moves. However it's possible to create more weaknesses by using moves like {{m|Foresight}} to remove immunities.
* There were no pure Rock-type Pokémon until [[Generation II]].
* No [[Physical move|physical]] Rock-type move is 100% accurate.
* In the first season of the [[Pokémon anime]] and during much of [[Generation I]], the Rock-type was often wrongly assumed to be unaffected by {{type2|Electric}} attacks. This was likely due to the fact that at the time, the only Rock-types that were not part Ground were the {{cat|Fossil Pokémon}}.
* The Rock-type is tied with the {{type2|Grass}} for the largest number of weaknesses when unpaired, with five: {{t|Grass}}, {{t|Water}}, {{t|Ground}}, {{t|Fighting}}, and {{t|Steel}}.

==In other languages==
* French: '''Roche'''
* German: '''Gestein'''
* Italian: '''Roccia'''
* Spanish: '''Roca'''
* Korean: '''바위''' ''bawi''
* Hebrew: '''סלע''' ''sela'' or '''אבן''' ''ehven''

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Talk:Berry/Archive 1

2008-08-28T15:56:56Z

PhantomCX:

== Real Fruit ==

All of the berries are named after real fruit. Should we including this in the article? I think it's important... Here's what I've come up with so far. Some of them are really obscure. I'm only missing a few.

#Cheri - Cherry (or, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherimoya Cherimoya])
#Chesto - Chestnut
#Pecha - Peach
#Rawst - Straw(berry)
#Aspear - Pear?
#Leppa - Apple
#Oran - Orange
#Persim - [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persimmon Persimmon]
#Lum - Lime? ''Addition by [[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] at 21:09, 18 September 2007 (UTC):'' It's from mulberry ("mul" backwards is "lum").
#Sitrus - Citrus
#Figy - Fig
#Wiki - Kiwi
#Mago - Mango
#Aguav - Guava
#Iapapa - Papaya
#Razz - Rasp(berry)
#Bluk - Black(barry)
#Nanab - Banana
#Wepear - Pear?
#Pinap - Pineapple
#Pomeg - [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pomegranate Pomegranate] ''Addition by [[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] at 21:09, 18 September 2007 (UTC):'' I fixed the spelling of pomegranate.
#Kelpsy - Kelp?
#Qualot - Kumquat?
#Hondew - Honeydew
#Grepa - Grape
#Tamato - Tomato
#Cornn - Corn
#Magost - [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mangosteen Mangosteen!]
#Rabuta - ? ''Addition by [[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] at 21:09, 18 September 2007 (UTC):'' It's from rutabaga.
#Nomel - Lemon
#Spelon - ?
#Pamtre - Palm Tree (Palm Fruit)
#Watmel - Watermelon
#Durin - [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durian Durian]
#Belue - Blue(berry)
#Liechi - [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lychee Lychee]
#Ganlon - [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longan Longan]
#Salac - [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salak Salak]
#Petaya - [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitaya Pitaya]
#Apicot - Apricot
#Lansat - [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lansium_domesticum Langsat]
#Starf - [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carambola Starfruit]

I didn't want to put this directly onto the page because it's not complete yet. Help is appreciated

→[[User:Evin290|Evin290]] 18:39, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

:Qualot is from an obscure one, the [[wp:Loquat|Loquat]]. Lum's from [[wp:Mulberry|Mulberry]]. Rabuta sounds like [[wp:Rutabaga|Rutabaga]], though I'm not honestly sure if that's it. I'm very certain Spelon is [[wp:Melon|Melon]].--[[User:Pie|Pie]] 20:59, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
:Actually, now that I think about it, Lum could also just be from [[wp:Plum|Plum]]. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 02:29, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

I was actually thinking there could be a whole article about each berry, containing flavor and written tag information. I think the real fruit information could be better placed on each individual berry's page. However, we'd probably need a template for a page, or something to make them good. But I don't know how to make a template ... [[User:Slim|Slim]] 19:32, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

:I think I could make a good one, given just a bit of time... --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 20:59, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

I'll start up some pages for berries. The pages will be called, for example, Cheri (Berry). I'll get started →[[User:Evin290|Evin290]] 00:31, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

:What kind of melon is spelon? It would have to be a specific type of melon to get the "sp" from. Also, could Aspear be [[we:Asian Pear|Asian Pear]]. I can't think of anything for Wepear. I thought "Western Pear," but wikipedia doesn't have an article called that, and when I search for it on Google, all I got was "Best Western/Pear Tree Inn" Anyone have any ideas about "Wepear?" →[[User:Evin290|Evin290]] 15:52, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
::Here's my best guess for Wepear: [http://www.wildlifetrusts.org/index.php?section=environment:species:tree&id=612 ''Pyrus communis pyraster''], the '''W'''ild '''E'''uropean '''Pear'''. [[User:JudgeSpear|JudgeSpear]] 00:58, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

I figured out "Rabuta." It's [[wp:Rambutan|Rambutan]]. It sounds more like "Rabuta" than "Rutabaga" and it's got hairs all over it, just like the rabuta berry.

Here are the Generation IV berries and their origins that do not have origins put up yet (I will put them up in their respective berry pages momentarily):
:41. Chople: Possibly [[wp:Chipotle|Chipotle]], in reference to its spiciness in the games and the real-life pepper's intense heat.
:42. Kebia: [[wp:Akebia_quinata|Akebia]]; the scientific name, ''akebia'', is a Latinization of the Japanese name for the genus, ''akebi''. Here is a page showing [http://www.paghat.com/akebiafruit.html Akebia fruit] that closely resembles the in-game Kebia Berry graphic.
:44. Coba: [[wp:Wild_rice|Coba]], an English name for several species of Manchurian wild rice, whose stems are used as a vegetable.
:47. Charti: [[wp:Artichoke]]
:48. Kasib: [[wp:Cassava]] root
:49. Colbur: [[wp:Muntingia_calabura|''Muntingia calabura'']], the plant from which the Calabura fruit comes
:50. Babiri: [[wp:Berberis_thunbergii| Japanese Barberry]] (''Berberis thunbergii'')
:52. Chilan: [[wp:Ancho|Ancho chili pepper]] (also called Poblano)
:61. Micle: The word "miracle". Or it could be from Clematis.
:62. Custap: [[wp:Custard_apple|Custard Apple]] (''Annona reticulata''), native to the tropical [[wp:New World|New World]]
:63. Jaboca: [[wp:Jabuticaba|Jabuticaba]], or Brazilian Grape Tree
:64. Rowap: [[wp:rowan|Rowan plant]], native throughout the cool temperate regions of the [[wp:northern hemisphere|northern hemisphere]], with the highest species diversity in the mountains of western [[wp:China|China]] and the [[wp:Himalaya|Himalaya]]
:::::[[User:JudgeSpear|JudgeSpear]] 02:15, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
What about these ones??
44 Pumkin Berry -Pumpkin

45 Drash Berry -?

46 Eggant Berry -Eggplant

47 Strib Berry - ?

49 Nutpea Berry -Peanut

50 Ginema Berry ?

51 Kuo Berry ?

52 Yago Berry ?

53 Touga Berry ?

54 Niniku Berry ?

55 Topo Berry ?

[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] 01:32, 21 July 2008 (UTC)WOWY

== Soil system in generation IV? ==

it seems the soil and watering work differently from generation III, the soil visibly changes color, from dark brown, to an orange-brown, to pale and sand-like. as far as i can tell, the soil dries by one shade in half the time it takes the plant to grow a stage. the planted berries start with dark watered soil, and it seems the timer on the soil resets based on when the plants are watered, as opposed to being directly linked with plant growth.
:Not to mention the kinds of mulch you can buy that also affect the soil. --[[User:DarkfireTaimatsu|DarkfireTaimatsu]] 23:15, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
::moreover, based on my observations, you have to water twice as often for the best results, and the max yield for older berries seems higher. those details are probably pretty important. ~Kendai
:::Later on, I'm definitely gonna be revamping the page. Adding a "growth" section, possibly to each generation. '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 18:25, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

I did a careful watching of berry growth under many different factors. I planted berries in routes 208(normal), 212 (rainy), and 228 (sandstorm). each four-berry place had one plant each with growth and damp mulch.

Basically I found out that it's as simple as watering slightly more often. When a berry is planted, it starts with fully damp dark brown soil. if left alone, it will dry to orange-brown soil the same time it grows it's first stage, and dry out completely to a sandy color at the next stage. When the player waters berries with the sprayduck, the soil returns to the darkest color if it has dried, and will stay fully moist for the same amount of time it takes the plant to grow a stage.

This seems to be a slightly more flexible system, as the watering time is not fixed to the four stages, any time the plants are watered the soil will stay damp for a full growth stage duration.

However, I have seen cases of the soil drying faster than the plants grow. I'm not sure what causes this, as in my test the soil dried in sync with growth times in all three places. ~Kendai
:my test used one type of berry. While growing berries normally I noticed a slower-growing berry group actually dried out faster than others. This might mean the growth time list may also need a list of "drying times" for generation 4. I did use growth much on the slower berries and damp mulch on the faster ones, but despite that the slower set still grew slower. More observations will be needed. Anyone care to help with that? ~Kendai

== Damage-reducing Berries ==

Do these reduce an attack's damage by 50%? The reason I ask is because no damage calculator I know of factors these in, so it's been bugging me for a while. Would the effect be as if the defending pokemon had +2 defense? [[User:Juunannio|Juunannio]] 10:14, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
:Far as I know, they cancel out the super-effectiveness, which means a 50% damage reduction. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]][[Image:Ani155MS.gif|Fire echy]]''' 01:38, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
::THey cancel out, alright. But if it is 4x (Like on Flygon-san) then itdecreases to only 2x. '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Optimatum</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''14:04 3 May 2008'''''

:::If {{p|Shedinja}} were to hold an Occa Berry, would a Fire-type move still work on it? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 16:03, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
::::I'm sure the berry only works by halving the damage, and for shedinja, ANY damage is fatal. However, you CAN get the desired result by using focus sash, it will cover one hit of any type.

==Cards==
Should we include the CCG berries, like "Balloon Berry"?[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 10:59, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
:I'm not 100% sure what to do, but it's possible you could make a new page or category dealing with TCG berries (and link to it at the bottom of the Berry page). They don't correspond to a specific game generation, nor would they be able to fit into the numbering scheme present in the Generation III-IV berries. [[User:Berrymaster|Berrymaster]] 02:15, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

== Berry dropping ==

After berries grow in loamy soil, they stay for a while, but replant or vanish if not picked. The fact doesn't seem to be covered in this article, or i missed it while looking. I was hoping to find an explanation of how long berries stay on a plant after growing. The individual berry pages list total growth time and length of each stage, but i haven't seen the addition of how long they stay before vanishing on those pages either. ~Kendai
:A set of berries I forgot about seemed to last half the total growth time, or twice the growth of a stage, based on the stage they were at and when they were planted. can someone confirm? ~Kendai

== Which Berry?? ==

Hell I was playing PBR and a Pokémon (can't remember which) used Draco Meteor, but after its stats droped it recovered them with a berry - which berry did it use - I tried to find on here but no luck (or I'm blind - probably blind to be fair) [[User:PhantomCX|PhantomCX]] 15:56, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

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2008-07-29T14:55:59Z

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== Hi ==

== Me ==

My name is Chris and I come from England. I’ve been a fan of Pokémon now for nearly eight years and over that time I have owned all of the mainstream games as well as all the Stadiums, Colosseums and I now own PBR. My enjoyment started when I was at school in a Physics lesson. One of my mates was playing Pokémon Blue under the desk and he was seriously addicted to it, at lunch he let me have a look at it and bang I was hooked. The next day I went straight out and bought Pokémon Red. The rest is history.

== My Links ==

'''[[User:PhantomCX/Generation V]]'''
This is where I put my ideas for for the next Generation
'''[[User:PhantomCX/Operation ALP]]'''
This is where you will find the details on my ALP

== My Game Rankings ==

'''Pokémon {{2v2|Red|Blue}}'''

The alpha Pokémon games - brilliant at there time but look dated now and have kind of been replaced by {{2v2|FireRed|LeafGreen}}. These are still the only games in which you can complete the [[National Pokédex]] with out any cheat devices.

'''Pokémon {{v2|Yellow}}'''

Getting all three starter Pokémon from {{2v2|Red|Blue}}- Fantastic!! Improved graphics and a good take on the first season of the Anime.

'''Pokémon {{2v2|Gold|Silver}}'''

Second best, but only to the games improved version, {{v2|Crystal}}. A huge step up from Generation {{Gen|I}}, which was also, in the scale of games in general, brilliant, & along with {{v2|Crystal}}, the only games to date where it is possible to get 16 badges!!!

'''Pokémon {{v2|Crystal}}'''

By far the best game released in my opinion. See comments on {{2v2|Gold|Silver}} its that and better.

'''Pokémon {{2v2|Ruby|Sapphire}}'''

I was pretty disappointed in these games, I thought many of the new Pokémon introduced just did not stand out like those of the previous Generations, I thought [[Hoenn]] was rather rushed together and could have been a much more interesting & I also thought they left way to many Pokémon out at the time of release although {{2v2|FireRed|LeafGreen}} did help to fill that gap when they came out.

'''Pokémon {{2v2|FireRed|LeafGreen}}'''

Although there remakes I still rate them very high. Loads more to do than the originals and real improvement on the other Generation {{Gen|III}} games.

'''Pokémon {{v2|Emerald}}'''

Ok - I won’t deny I was really not a fan of the {{2v2|Ruby|Sapphire}} Games, one of the reasons is because of the layout of [[Hoenn]] and that’s why {{v2|Emerald}} suffers. I do think it is a major improvement on {{2v2|Ruby|Sapphire}} but it’s stuck in the same region which just lets it down.

'''Pokémon {{2v2|Diamond|Pearl}}'''

These are, in many ways, the best game out, but in some ways it has also gone backwards. By the end of the Generation {{Gen|II}} there were some types that were just better because the certain Pokémon of those types were stronger than the Pokémon of other types. By the end of the Generation {{Gen|III}} I feel this gap had been closed somewhat but I thought {{2v2|Diamond|Pearl}} started to reverse this process - still one hell of a game mind.

== My Pokémon ==

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2008-07-29T14:45:39Z

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== A.L.P. - Almost living Pokédex ==

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Talk:My Pokémon Ranch

2008-07-03T14:04:23Z

PhantomCX: /* EU release */

==Pokemon Farm Channel==
It appers to be a storage system too.--PkmnSilver
:We don't have proof of that, so...--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 16:59, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

== Farm or Ranch ==

The article is titled '''Pokémon Farm Channel''' but i also heard it being called '''Pokémon Ranch Channel''' .
As you can see there is some confusion .
While i tend to believe it's''' Ranch''' because of the setting as in the landscape and the Mii's clothing i'm not sure wether to move the article or not .[[User:Richardson j|Richardson j]] 02:33, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
:牧場 is literally "livestock farm," so I guess Ranch is just as correct. Maybe even more correct, because ranches are specifically just animals and a simple "farm" doesn't clarify the "animals only" thing.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 18:51, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
::Well you point makes sense and like what you point out above makes sense to me .[[User:Richardson j|Richardson j]] 13:14, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

== Mew and Phione ==

Here are the links that go with my edit:

[http://www.pokewiki.de/Minna_no_Pok%C3%A9mon_Bokuj%C5%8D PokeWiki's Page]
[http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=943658 GameFAQs Message Board]
--[[User:PikamasterADV|PikamasterADV]] 21:15, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

: finally! legit mews for all!! i guess there really is a divine creator. '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|808080|Origami}}{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|FF8000|Guy}}-{{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|808080|T}}-{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|FF8000|C}}-{{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|0080FF|M}}''' 17:14, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

== US release? ==

No way to get this in the US, is there? [[User:LostDrewid|LostDrewid]] 12:10, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
:Once WiiWare comes out here (I think it's this month) it'll be out. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 14:15, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

well actually this is incorrect through Nintendo channel they say that the new games are coming out the 12th and I've heard many other rumors I'm pretty sure they are releasing it with the other games as well that they released in japan but.... that could be just my imagination. We will all find out Monday

Arr I'm really upset with Nintendo right now. Well according to my sources (the Nintendo shop channel)they had a info saying they will update the channel every Monday. With usual actions Nintendo should release it on either the 19th or the 26th. Because of the fact serebii said that in Europe it is supposed to be released on the 30th of May. and knowing Nintendo they always release in the US before Europe. Therefor supposedly it should be released on the following times and dates... Oh another thing is because in the US it's for all of north America the furthest point in Canada is +4 hours or Atlantic Slandered Time. Also the start of a business day is at 10 A.m. I found out that it is 5 A.m. Pacific time... I do strange things in my head if I'm motivated enough without my meds...
:Always in the US before Europe? Last I heard, {{pkmn|Box}} was released in Europe before the US. And given how Ranch is basically a stripped-down Box (with much of the good stuff removed), Europe before US just might happen with Ranch...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 20:24, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

'''US'''

Monday, 26th

2 A.m. Bering time

3 A.m. Alaska Time

4 A.m. Yukon Time

5 A.m. Pacific Time

6 A.m. Mountain Time

7 A.m. Central Time

8 A.m. Eastern Time

9 A.m. New found Time

10 A.m. Atlantic Time

And I have no clue for Europe time but it should be the farthest part of Europe at 10 A.m. on the 30th of May...

That is my results.... Oh also if you guys want to check this out here is a link to the official site here is a link but currently it only links back to the Nintendo official website... [www.pokemonranch.com] {{unsigned|Kittenchild}}

It is released In the US today (June 9) [[User:Bobtheblob728|Bobert]] 00:03, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

== EU release ==

is it tomorrow?--lord mada 18:54, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

: As of the time of this post: PEGI (EU GAMEs Censor Board) has NOT got a record of the game. But since there are games not present on both Nintendo's List and PEGI's List. It's unlikely, but possible. [[User:Big Nutter|Big Nutter]] 22:32, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm sure your all already aware but EU release is 04/07/08 [[User:PhantomCX|PhantomCX]] 14:04, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

== Block Cost? ==
How many blocks of Wii System Memory does this take up? I need to know for when it's released here. [[User:Gywall|'''Gywall''']]([[User_talk:Gywall|Talk]]) 17:02, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
:I downloaded it today, and it was only about 120 or so. --[[User:Ozzie|Ozzie]] 04:35, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
:123 to be precise. - PDL

Where is here, exactly?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 23:28, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
:UK, Europe? If it's not released.. I'm going to not be able to do anything soon. [[User:Gywall|'''Gywall''']]([[User_talk:Gywall|Talk]]) 09:49, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

== ..What? ==

What does the octillery have to do with Pokémon Ranch?
:Apparently, it was given in Ranch in Japan. I don't know how though. tc26 09:30, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
::Well someone should say something about that.. I have no idea about ti, so not me.. But.. It looks out of place. [[User:Evan94|Evan]] 22:12, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

== Help? ==

Does anyone know how to fix the tables of the Pokémon with less than 4 attacks, like Combee and Wynaut? tc26 01:07, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

== Problems needed Adressing ==

# Page is useing the RSE pokeball sprite. A D/P pokeball sprite should be used since this is a GenIV game.
#Slight problems with Whynaut's table.
--[[User:Lego3400|Lego3400]] 02:41, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

:They look like Gen IV ball sprites to me... Also, Wynaut's table seems fine to me. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 03:01, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
::I saw the problem with Wynaut, and fixed it. Don't know anything about the balls, though. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 03:09, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Not a sprite: Sugimori art. No DP art has been released for it yet, so the "sprite" stays. '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''12:50 29 Jun 2008'''''

== Club Look-See? ==

I realize that it was me that put the section up on this page but should there be more info with it? [[User:Rucario64|[[UserTalk:Rucario64]]]] 22:38, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
:Since the club has their own article, the info should go there rather than on this page. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 23:08, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
::Your right. Shouold I just delete the section or will someone else do that? [[User:Rucario64|[[User:Rucario64]]]] 01:20, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
:::It should probably be replaced with a paragraph on the various features of the ranch that includes a link to the article on the club. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 12:28, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Main Page/Archive 6

2008-07-01T14:06:10Z

PhantomCX:

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== Previous discussions ==

* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 1|Archive 1]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 2|Archive 2]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 3|Archive 3]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 4|Archive 4]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 5|Archive 5]]

== Congrats Bulbapedia ==

http://www.quantcast.com/bulbapedia.com

Congrats on all of the hits. I'm only confused on the gender demographic.[[User:GJPal|GJ]] 01:35, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

:You do realize that's an Advertisement right? --[[User:Force Fire|Force Fire]] 01:19, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

::I don't know whether Quantcast screwed up, or whether they're actually referring to a separate site. See, http://www.bulbapedia.com isn't affiliated with Bulbagarden or this wiki, to my knowledge. We're a different web address. So, either Quantcast's research does reflect our site and they just assumed our suffix was .com, or those stats actually have nothing to do with this wiki. --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 01:40, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Actually, bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net is listed in the "similar audience" column to the right. I guess people go to bulbapedia.com when they hear about the site but not the URL. Anyway, [http://www.quantcast.com/bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net we're doing even better] than bulbapedia.com. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Talk))]] 01:54, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
::::wow, i didnt know that many of you guys were asain... -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 03:09, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::I wonder, can Quantcast tell the difference between Asians and wannabe-Asians? A good number of users here use Japanese or Japanese-inspired names... my name's Japanese-inspired, and I'm born in NYC. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 03:16, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::I'm vietnamese, that's asian, but I was born in LA, the state~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]][[Special:Random|102]] 03:20, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Thanks for the correct info. There is still more girls though. I thought girls didn't exist on the Internet. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:GJPal|GJPal]] ([[User talk:GJPal|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/GJPal|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''
::::::::they dont. its just lots of boys using their mothers computer. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 04:40, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::Or as World of Warcraft has shown us, its just guys pretending they are girls....[[User:Oak-leaf Knight|[[User:Oak-leaf Knight]]]] 04:42, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::Does that mean Tina? PachirisuLover12? Pie? Zhen Lin? no, he is a boy~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]][[Special:Random|102]] 04:43, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::they could be. we dont know. thats the magic of the internet. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 04:46, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
You said it, not me...[[User:Oak-leaf Knight|[[User:Oak-leaf Knight]]]] 04:45, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
:Begs the question on why guys would want to act as girls.
:...On second thougts, don't answer that. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 05:27, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
::Errrr, I don't know. They want to be gay? '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''09:30 4 Jun 2008'''''
:::I'm a G.i.r.l. too! (Guy In Real Life) --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 10:21, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
----
Well done, Bulbapedia. You have crawled your way up into the ranks where when people search for Pikachu, they get our page on Pikachu. Well done indeed...'''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''11:24 17 Jun 2008'''''
:Right behind Wikipedia's article on Pikachu, of course. :D --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 11:35, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
::We're ahead for every other Pokaman. Proves how hard our contributors have been working. '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''12:54 17 Jun 2008'''''

== Who Misspelled Categorized and Categorizing? ==
Fix the spelling. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:AaronV28|AaronV28]] ([[User talk:AaronV28|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/AaronV28|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''
:Typical human response. It's American English, not British. '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''07:24 2 Jun 2008'''''
::American English would have the "z" in catergorizing. Since we use American English, it should be changed. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 12:13, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
:::It has been stated not to change from one to the other for the sheer sake of it. Either can be used, but American English is preferred. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 12:33, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
::::Wait, ''where'' is it misspelled anyway? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:53, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::I changed it. It should be the last one in the history. That's why Glinn yelled abut changing it. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 22:59, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::Yelling GENERALLY USES CAPS LOCK LIKE THIS to emphasise its point. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 08:02, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::I used yelled as a generic term. Would you rather I have said {{tt|talked|or wrote?}} matter-of-factly? ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 14:51, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

== Collapsible Navboxes ==

can bulbapedia do collapsible boxes, and if so, how? '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|808080|Origami}}{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|FF8000|Guy}}-{{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|808080|Talk}}-{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|FF8000|Contribs}}-{{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|0080FF|Mudkipz}}''' 21:14, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:We can, yes, we just haven't yet because we're against pretty much just jacking everyone's code. We likely will soon enough. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:51, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::But wikipedia and bulbapedia both run on mediawiki, so everything that works on one will work on the other, so why the big 'stealing other wikis code is not nice' thing? '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|808080|Origami}}{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|FF8000|Guy}}-{{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|808080|Talk}}-{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|FF8000|Contribs}}-{{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|0080FF|Mudkipz}}''' 23:02, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Depending on the .js or .css coding we use, there's a few that are out there specifically to be used by anyone, so they're safe to take. I know of two types of collapsible boxes, I think... if I can just find the right one, I can check the source on it, it's easy enough to get up and running. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 09:32, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

== Anime pics ==

How do you get pictures of the anime episodes? If I try to play one on my computer and press "Print Scrn", the window where the video was is black. Is there any way around this? --[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 23:04, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:We just get them fro Filb.de. But if you have Windows Movie Maker or some other type of movie maker, you can take screenshots from there. I'm sure websites like Filb.de use some special kind of program to get screenshots. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 23:07, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::DVD Shrink saved the DVD as a .ifo file, and Windows Movie Maker won't let me open it. What file type do I need to convert it to and how do I convert it to the correct type? --[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 23:11, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

::: [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=RNWE%2CRNWE%3A2005-03%2CRNWE%3Aen&q=.ifo+converter] [[User:Zurqoxn|Zurqoxn]] 03:44, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

I have the "download codecs automatically" box checked, and I'm on an administrator account, but I get the error message:

<pre width="100%">The file F:\My Documents\My Videos\Pokémon The Rise of Darkrai.avi cannot be imported because the codec required to play the file is not installed on your computer. If you have already tried to download and install the codec, close and restart Windows Movie Maker, and then try to import the file again.</pre>

I've tried closing and restarting Windows Movie Maker several times but it still gives me the error. --[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 20:47, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

:If you could pause it without messing up the image, maybe you could just photo it. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 20:00, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
::A lot of video players have a feature that allows you to take screenshots. Media Player Classic is a good one. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 20:05, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

== James' not James's!!!!!! ==

EVERY SINGLE POSSESIVE FORM FOR JAMES ON THIS SITE IS WRONG! The possesive form of James is James', NOT James's[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|Emperor's Cookies]] 13:09, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
:Then fix it when you see it's wrong. -[[User:Sketchies|Sketchies]] 13:51, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
:: Actually, both ''James's'' and ''James''' are [http://www.bartleby.com/141/strunk.html#1 accepted] [http://grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/grammar/possessives.htm possessive] [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostrophe#Possessive_apostrophe forms]. (Note that that the 's is insisted upon in the ''[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MLA_style_manual The MLA Style Manual]'', as well as the ''[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Elements_of_Style Elements of Style]'' which I believe is the writing standard we follow at Bulbapedia) The key is uniformity in the writing, thus, why ''James's'' is used on the Bulbapedia. [[User:Trainer-c|Trainer-c]] 13:55, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Now that they are moved, doesn't that mean we have double redirects everywhere?!? ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]''
::::But proper english has '''s''' not '''s's'''. See here http://owl.english.purdue.edu/handouts/grammar/g_apost.html [[User:Darth Cookie Monster|Emperor's Cookies]] 14:01, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::Okay, I'll get right on that. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 14:04, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::: The links I provided clearly state that ''both'' are in fact "proper English" and anyone that has written professionally adheres to the ''Elements of Style'', and ''The MLA Style Manual''. I would ask about this on the forums before going wild with editing and redirecting everything.
:::::::I really don't think that this will work because both the OP and the TP Templates/shortlinks only work and will result in James's Pokémon. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 14:15, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::The very page you cite does not support your claim. I quote, "add 's to the singular form of the word (even if it ends in -s)". James is, of course, singular. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 15:18, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::I asked my English teacher today, and it confirmed my thoughts that it's always just an apostrophe at the end of a name if the name ends with s. [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 17:01, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Let's not forget it's the same English teachers who tell us that prepositions are not appropriate words to end sentences with. They are not always correct. '''James's''' is correct and the standard on Bulbapedia, end of discussion. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 02:05, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

== Wait a sec...... ==

How does this user [[User:SharkJamez]] have stuff on the user account if he joined after the 24th of march.
*20:08, June 6, 2008 SharkJamez (Talk | contribs) New user ‎
(When he joined)
[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|Emperor's Cookies]] 13:59, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

:That's due to the content having originally been posted on the talk page. Even prior to the userspace ban, there were instances where people had posted content more appropriate for the User namespace in the User talk namespace, and since this content didn't appear to be a blatant attempt to get around the userspace ban, the content was moved. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 14:14, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

== Look what I found ==

Look at this video I found on Youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsopjAc2xok

--'''''Posted by''''' [[User:Deadlymethane|'''''Deadly''''']][[User talk:Deadlymethane|'''''methane''''']] '''at''' 20:16, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
:Interesting. Too bad it doesn't really have a use yet. -- [[User:Bug Catcher Jam|Unown Q]] 03:40, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
::It worked for me. I'm pressed for time, though, and not keen to experiment a lot. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:43, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
:::What do you mean it has no use? If no AR was used used in that video, then you could get the events with tweaking. --'''''Posted by''''' [[User:Deadlymethane|'''''Deadly''''']][[User talk:Deadlymethane|'''''methane''''']] '''at''' 23:08, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
::::I still cant figure out how to tweak.[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|Emperor's Cookies]] 00:44, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

== My talk page ==

Is gone. Completely gone. As In I can not find any history, or anything...[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|Emperor's Cookies]] 18:32, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
:Boo-hoo. Don't use it for useless blog crap this time. That's not what it's for. [[User:Ketsuban|Ketsuban]] 18:36, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
::I did not use it for useless Blog $%^#. And even if the admins think I did, a warning would have been nice.[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|Emperor's Cookies]] 18:38, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Your talk page had nonsense on it. We have been told to delete anything not having to do with Bulbapedia. Don't use your talk page for nonsense next time. You're not the only one this is going to happen to. -[[User:Sketchies|Sketchies]] 18:39, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
::::If I had been told that it would be wiped, I would have taken the axe to all the junk..... once again, would have been nice to have been forewarned[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|Emperor's Cookies]] 18:41, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
::::You had ''fanfiction'' on it. What exactly do you think the forums are for if you're cluttering the wiki up with tripe like that? [[User:Ketsuban|Ketsuban]] 20:40, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
::::This has gone way beyond the point of "warning" people. Honestly though, you have been warned. The discussion on the Bulbapedia forum has been going on for long enough that everyone should have seen what was going to happen, and what kinds of things are unacceptable. This junk in the user space that has nothing to do with Bulbapedia has been killing the server, and we've put up with it long enough. If you want to store fanfiction on Bulbagarden, that's what library.bulbagarden.net is for. If you want to have long discussions about any topic, that's what BMGf is for. --[[User:Archaic|Archaic]] 00:32, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Users with talk-page content that isn't about Bulbapedia should be warned ahead of time to give them time to back up the pages (this obviously applies only to things like fanfiction that the user might actually want to keep). --[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 01:03, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
:They can retrieve the information from the history, so it really makes no difference if they're warned or not. --[[User:Archaic|Archaic]] 01:32, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
::Actually, when it is delted, you cant pull back from the history. And I already kiled the fan fic.[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|Emperor's Cookies]] 01:49, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
:::When removing stuff from talk pages, it's a much better idea to blank the page, not delete it. Deletion does absolutely nothing that blanking wouldn't do in this situation; the pages are still retained in the server database. At the very least, give users the ability to see ''what'' got deleted. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 01:53, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

== Bots ==

How do you create bots? I want to make one myself rather than having someone else make one for me. --[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 16:12, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
:If it isn't something that would be possible for me to do, I'd like a "shortcut" bot, named ShinyBot, that would change the following shortcuts into the correct code (to make editing easier by causing users to have to type less):

/d\→δ

/e\→é

/m\→♂

/f\→♀

//''Pokédex number''\\→<nowiki>[[Image:</nowiki>''Pokédex number''<nowiki>.png]]</nowiki>

/>''page name''<\→<nowiki>#redirect[[</nowiki>''page name''<nowiki>]]</nowiki>

/[''image name''][''image height''][''image width''][''title''][''page name'']\→<nowiki>{{Imagelink|</nowiki>''image name''<nowiki>|</nowiki>''image height''<nowiki>|</nowiki>''image width''<nowiki>|</nowiki>''title''<nowiki>|</nowiki>''page name''<nowiki>}}</nowiki>

More shortcuts possibly coming...

--[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 16:32, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

:Why not simply use the character palette? --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 19:21, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

::As opposed to creating a bot who's job would be to make every edit into two edits. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 19:24, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

== Images ==

The images [[Image:Escape Formula Example 2.png]] and [[Image:Escape Formula Example 3.png]] don't show up, despite the fact that I've uploaded them ([[a:Image:Escape Formula Example 2.png]] and [[a:Image:Escape Formula Example 3.png]]). --[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 21:22, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

:It's a bug. Images uploaded on the Archives may not show up on the Bulbapedia side at first. The situation usually sorts itself out over time, so I'd recommend leaving them as is--it'll probably fix itself eventually. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 21:25, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

== Userspace ==

No, this isn't another whine or complaint, it's an idea. Instead of having the admins try to find some complex programming to make a edit limit, why not try to ask Bulbagarden to make a new area to put the userspace in? Have the userspace from the forums, the archives, the wiki, everything, on a new server? Just thought I'd throw the idea out there and have someone at least tell me why it won't work. [[User:Theininen|Thein]][[User talk:Theininen|inen]] 17:42, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
:Servers aren't free. -[[User:Sketchies|Sketchies]] 17:43, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
::Yeah, but put some of the donations from all the divisions toward it, and tell people that it would bring back the userspace... [[User:Theininen|Thein]][[User talk:Theininen|inen]] 17:45, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

There's honestly no reason to actually have a userspace, i liked it better when i couldn't see mine. It's pointless unless you really want people to know every detail about you, IMO.[[User:Boywonder01|'''Boy''']][[User talk:Boywonder01|'''wonder''']][[Special:Contributions/Boywonder01|'''01''']] 17:52, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Why not just redirect all userspace pages to talk pages and be done with it? -- [[User:Bug Catcher Jam|Unown Q]] 22:32, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
:at this point, it looks like the userspace will be dissallowed and user pages will have little information on them. seriously, you join to edit and contribute, not to show off [[User:MAGNEDETH/new evolutions|your ideas]]. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 22:44, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Something to think about: Over on MarioWiki, one of our admins started a separate wiki (through wikia) called Userpedia, which is for all the community and fan crap. That might be a good solution to Bulbapedia's problems. -- [[User:Bug Catcher Jam|Unown Q]] 22:51, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
:I had heard about that, that's sort of what gave me the idea. [[User:Theininen|Thein]][[User talk:Theininen|inen]] 00:43, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
::It works out rather well, with the occasional overlap. I recently proposed to my fellow admins about doing what Bulbapedia did and just block all userspace edits. -- [[User:Bug Catcher Jam|Unown Q]] 01:00, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
:I kinda like this ban, it weeds out the trolls and Bulbapedia moves forward.Of course, if it's permanent, you know the trolls will call shenanigans on the admins and the entire wiki.[[User:Boywonder01|'''Boy''']][[User talk:Boywonder01|'''wonder''']][[Special:Contributions/Boywonder01|'''01''']] 01:12, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
:the idea may be an easy way out, but Zhen doesnt have the money to support ''another'' server. especially one for users to play around on. especially considering he already has [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/index.php something like that]. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 01:31, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
:: [http://www.wikia.com/ Free solutions do exist.] -- [[User:Bug Catcher Jam|Unown Q]] 03:30, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Wikia's only free money-wise. You pay for it in plenty of other ways. Trust me. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 04:10, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

::::Can someone tell me what servers are? I know thats what host the site, but what are they? [[User:Patriotfan09|'''Patriot''']][[User talk:Patriotfan09|'''fan''']][[User_talk:Patriotfan09/Phantom_Gym|'''09''']] 04:23, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::A Server is just a computer that has the entire website saved on it, basically. A much bigger computer then normal, of course... --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 06:28, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::Why not delete the user pages and user talk pages of users who dont use bulba anymore?[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|Emperor's Cookies]] 18:13, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::But then you have the problem of, what designates a user who doesn't use bulbapedia anymore? You can't ask them if they still use it, you can't be sure they'll give you an answer. Lots of users "lurk" (use the site, but don't necessarily edit all the time). Maybe a year's worth of inactivity, but that's not exactly easy to enforce.
:::::::I think userspace is still an important thing to have; it's always good to know who's who. A name only tells you so much. But there's a lot of stuff that doesn't need to be on a userpage. I want to know the editor, not know every little detail about the person and their family. K.I.S.S. (Keep It Simple, Stupid) is a good rule for userspace.
:::::::Re-enabling userspace with restrictions, either on size, or scope, or number of edits, or all of the above... seems like a good idea. The problem is, how to do this simply. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 18:28, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the info. [[User:Patriotfan09|'''Patriot''']][[User talk:Patriotfan09|'''fan''']][[User_talk:Patriotfan09/Phantom_Gym|'''09''']] 22:56, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

== Wouldnt this be cool? ==

wouldnt it be cool that the day we get our 10,000th article we could have like an online party or something. or just like a celebration if we could find a website that could do that or something. but it would be fun wouldnt it!

its just an idea...

--[[User:Hey1031|Hey1031]] 22:10, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

==Contents==
Hey, what happened to the contents column on the pages???????? --[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 03:33, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
:Which pages are you talking about in particular? Any examples?
:I believe if they're not showing up at all, there's an option in your preferences to turn them off, so check that you didn't turn that on by mistake... --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 13:06, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

::Ok And I mean on every page i go on --[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]]
:::Still works for me, on all the pages that should have Contents (ToC is, by default, only visible if there's about three or more sections on the page). Check your preferences, is my bet. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 16:20, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

== My Pokémon Ranch ==

This is a new game avaliable for download on Wii (and since it is WiiWare, you have to have WiFi). As I was playing earlier, I realized that when Haley brings in Pokémon to the ranch, a description of the species appears. I'm not sure if it's identical to any descriptions so far, but I think it might be useful if it's put under "Pokédex Description" on the appropriate pages, though it's not really a Pokédex. [[User:Crüsäder|Crüsäder]] 14:50, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

:Could be worth a shot since Gen I & II Pokémon have their "Stadium" descriptions. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 15:19, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

::The only problem is, it doesn't show descriptions for all Pokémon, only the ones she brings in (as far as I've found, anyway). [[User:Crüsäder|Crüsäder]] 18:24, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

:::Oh... Then maybe it's not that notable. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 18:37, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
::::If we can get a full set, it will probably be worth adding. How many Pokémon species can she bring in? --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 18:50, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::She usually brings in one a day. [[User:Crüsäder|Crüsäder]] 16:09, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Is there potential for her to bring in one of every kind of Pokémon? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 16:42, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

You can have 1000 Pokémon in there so if anyone is willing to wait 1000 days to find out, then maybe it is. I doubt she will bring in the event pokémon though... Rabla (i don't have a sig yet)

== ads ==

what is with the much-hated ads on the wiki?!?!?! i hate them, and what was wrong with the google adbar at the top?? '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|ff8000|gami}}''' 11:17, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

:I was seeing them earlier, but now I don't anymore. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 13:20, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
::It depends on the skin u use.I have always used cologne blue, and as long as I am logged in, I see no ads.[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|Emperor's Cookies]] 16:09, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

:::I always use monobook, because I've used it for so long, i know where everything is, and I like it. '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|ff8000|gami}}''' 16:20, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

I use cologne blue too, but I don't see the ads anymore when I'm logged out. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 16:25, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

== Season 11? ==

Is it true that the 11th season will be Pokémon Diamond and Pearl:Battle Dimension ? I have heard a lot about this and i was wondering if anyone could confirm it... - Rabla

[[Pokémon Diamond & Pearl: Battle Dimension| Pokémon Battle Dimension]]. Need more Proof? --[[User:Force Fire|Force]] [[User talk:Force Fire|Fire]] 08:54, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I've been watching battle dimension for over 2 months now so I dont get what your talking about. --[[User:Hey1031|Hey1031]] 13:00, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
::Maybe this person is from a different country that hasn't aired any yet, did you think of that??!! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 14:22, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Where i am they haven't even finished Diamond and Pearl yet -Rabla

Yes some countries don't stay with the US or Japan dub some may be more behind on the series--[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 06:26, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

==12 articles left==
Number 10.000 is coming. [[User:MathijsP|MathijsP]] 08:10, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

== YAY! 10,000 ARTICLES ==

wow congrats guys on getting 10000 articles!

I remember when there was only 6,000!

--[[User:Hey1031|Hey1031]] 20:01, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

:I also say, congrats Bulbapedia! 10,000... wow. [[User:Theininen|Thein]][[User talk:Theininen|inen]] 21:47, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

:: Wow. If I may ask, which was the 10,000th page? I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 10:53, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
:::[[Koffing (EX Ruby & Sapphire 54)]] [[User:MathijsP|MathijsP]] 10:56, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

== Bulbapedia Pokémon League ==

Ok here’s the thing, I was wondering if anyone would be interested in making a Pokémon League with other Uses here on Bulba, after all most of us like making strong Pokémon teams – why not test them out. It would work over the WiFi using the D/P and PBR friend codes.

If you’re interested put your Sig below the Possible Rules on my talk page & I'll see how many are interested and we can go from there, I was thinking of starting it in about two weeks to give people time to get the Pokémon ready.

[[User:PhantomCX|PhantomCX]]
:Check the forums, maybe. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 14:02, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Yeah I found it - never thought to look there [[User:PhantomCX|PhantomCX]]

User talk:PhantomCX

2008-07-01T13:07:00Z

PhantomCX: == Bulbapedia Pokémon League ==

Talk:Main Page/Archive 6

2008-07-01T12:00:53Z

PhantomCX: Bulbapedia Pokémon League

User talk:PhantomCX

2008-07-01T11:57:41Z

PhantomCX: Bulbapedia Pokémon League

Talk:Cheating

2008-06-25T07:33:59Z

PhantomCX:

I HATE cheaters! Unless it's to get an Event Pokemon you can't get otherwise... then I suppose it's alright. Actually, I also use "walk anywhere" from time to time, just because it's fun. [[User: Ph34rshallriseagain]]

:We still should have an article about it, if that's why you brought up the subject...
:Random subject is random? {{ani|281}}[[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Sandbox|☆]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Favorites|♥]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]]{{Ani|380}} 20:26, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

I think there should be lists of gameshark codes on Bulbapedia... I know a lot of people are 'against' codes, but I think a Wiki should strive to include all the information about the pokemon games possible, especially considering that gameshark codes are so well-known in the history of pokemon games ^^

I'm not sure how to start making pages for codes though, and how they should be laid out on a page... can anyone help out? --[[User:Malorie|Malorie]] 11:20, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:I agree. But there are so many anti-cheater extremists that I think it would be impossible. Saying that you never cheated on a Pokémon game in your life is a down right lie. --[[Image:Ani048MS.gif]]'''[[Tracey Sketchit|ケンジ]]'''[[Image:Ani183MS.gif]]'''[[User:Kenji-girl|ガール]]'''[[Image:Ani123MS.gif]] 11:31, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:Well, as long as we take a 'Neutral Point of View' approach, and post them for the purpose of complete information for a Pokemon wiki, I personally think it should be okay. ^^ There won't (or shouldn't) be any kind of extremist drama either way as long as there's a NPOV stance. :3 --[[User:Malorie|Malorie]] 12:29, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

No, No. NO Gameshark codes! We are an informitive wiki, NOT an on-line strategy guide! --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 13:54, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:Firstly, what's not informative about listing codes? Secondly, how do you explain the 'game guides' category on Bulbapedia? --[[User:Malorie|Malorie]] 19:27, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
::Codes completely ruin the point of playing the game![[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|Maniac]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|102]] 19:28, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:::And that's a neutral stance on things how? It'd be like someone saying a page for Scientology shouldn't be on Wikipedia because they think it's 'morally wrong'. Regardless of peoples view on it, the information should still be posted from a neutral stance. Besides, lets not forget about people who use codes to play the game a second time with a different experience, ie. having a different starting pokemon, or people who use codes to explore the games programming and such. --[[User:Malorie|Malorie]] 19:39, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
::::And all I'm getting is that you want the codes.[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|Maniac]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|102]] 19:40, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
::::Also, someone did post them a few days ago. I erased them.[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|Maniac]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|102]] 19:41, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::Yes, I want the codes to be listed on Bulbapedia, if that's what you mean. Isn't Bulbapedia designed to be a resource for all things Pokemon? Deleting pages of information, despite how factual and accurate it is, seems somewhat silly to me. If nothing else, I think at the very least, external links to such codes should exist. Blocking out an entire aspect of Pokemon because some users frown upon it (and, conversely, some people approve and encourage it), seems to defeat the point of having a wiki in the first place. --[[User:Malorie|Malorie]] 20:40, 5 January 2008 (UTC)\
::::::You're not getting it, are you.. cheating is frowned upon here. We are not Wikipedia. We don't have anything on cheating because we don't allow it, hence why pages on GameShark codes and the like are deleted, mainly because they are a bunch of of 'unencyclopedic' bullsh*t. If you want cheating codes, go somewhere else. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 20:43, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::Bulbapedia =/= Wikipedia. Cheating is frowned upon here. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 19:42, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
::::::im a cheater, but i only cheat with whats given to me. so, while i may not magically create an Arceus, i may magically create an Azure Flute.... '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 21:03, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

I have not cheated, but thats cause I'm not smart enough to go find them. And I have no Gameshark. --{{Ani|133}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|'''Darth''']]{{Ani|196}}[[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|'''Cookie''']]{{Ani|197}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster/Trade with Me|'''Monster''']]{{Ani|471}} 22:46, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Well, i have to say that i have a Arceus on my Diamond Game via Action Replay from a friend of mine. But that was only because i hated it that i couldn't get Event Pokémon. I'm seriously a fair player (i have completed a big part of the National Dex without cheating) [[User: Tomazzo| Tomazzo]]

'''Spotting Cheaters'''

Would it be worth adding a "How to spot some Hacked Pokemon" section. It wouldn't be able to tell you about all Pokemon but some such as the Eevees and ther evolutions and starts and a few others - it could help those online avoid cheats [[User:Phantom|Phantom]]

I agree, in fact I only came to this page to ask how, as I often use the GTS but plan to enter the Pokémon Showdown thing, so I want to know, even if someone just posts it on my talk page that would be fine. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 21:50, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

::That would be really useful. Not that I can enter that Showdown, but, say, if I could and I didn't notice that that Tauros I got via the GTS came in a Cherish Ball... --[[User:Turaga Dlakii|Turaga Dlakii]] 12:33, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Ok - I'll get working on it

User talk:Theininen

2008-06-24T11:01:59Z

PhantomCX:

==Welcome==
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Thank you, and have a good time editing here! [[User:Tesh|'''TESHIGIGAS''']] [[Image:Ani486MS.gif|{{{2|486}}}]] 16:22, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

:I know that you aren't supposed to mess with the welcome, but how do you do the é thing? I know that it is supossed to work, but I've tried the Alt + 130 and Alt + 0233 things, and they don't work. I can do it using the bar @ the bottom, just an accuracy thing. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 16:34, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

==Theininen's Talk Page==

This is my talk page! Feel free to comment on my edits or page.

:Btw, I operate in UTC-4, or something, NY time, so that's when I'll be on (just subtract 4 hours from the UTC time for my time, & use the "My Prefrences" at the top of the page to see how you differ from UTC, and compare the two to get the difference.) -[[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 00:47, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

=='''CHALLENGE'''==
I am issuing an open challenge! I will accept any challenge against my best team (to be posted on my homepage) that is posted on my board with a Friend code, and will post the time in NY local time that I will be online waiting for the challenger. I will post victories and losses, along with challengers' names, on my board. My Pearl friend code is 2449 2722 7683.

I will accept your challenge but for nearer the weekend, still got some training to do - let me know any rules you want to enforce (No Ubers etc) and your PBR or D/P friend code and I'll let you know my team & my friend code once I know the platform / rules. Also I'm 5 hrs infront of you (I think) GMT+1hr [[User:PhantomCX|PhantomCX]] 11:49, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

:No rules, but NO ridiculous hacks (Sableye with Wonder Guard, psychocotic stats, etc.), I'll battle with all Lv. 100's advise you to do the same (if you can't, I can figure out something else to do), I don't need to know your team, and I won't tell mine (as I won't know until the battle myself), and I only have Pearl, my code is 2449 2722 7683, and I should be able to battle sometime between 2 and 2:45 (my time, I think 7 to 7:45 yours, but to confirm, this post was edited at 8:33 my time, check listed post time for confirmation)). Keep an eye on this talk, I'll let you know when I can. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 00:36, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Ok no problem I’ll give you my D/P code tonight / tomorrow AM. I think I’m 4hrs ahead (this is being posting at 0910am my time) as for the teams that fair enough Ibut just to warn you I will be usining UBERS unless you spciffically don't want me to. Also - if there are any Pokemon that can be breed you want, I have at least one form of all Pokemon and am willing to breed these for trading (see [[User:PhantomCX/Operation ALP]] for more details) - it may only be a level one basic / baby, but at least you can then level it up etc [[User:PhantomCX|PhantomCX]] 08:21, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

:Ubers are fine, but I can't battle until 4 or later my time (9 or later urs, sorry) but I will post when I am ready, add my page to your watchlist so you know when I edit on. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 23:16, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Already have no worries just give me about 3 days notice so I can make sure my team is ready - forgot my friend code too (Damn!!!!) so I'll put it on tonight [[User:PhantomCX|PhantomCX]] 07:21, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Saturday 5/17, 8:00 my time (13:00 yours) should be fine. If not, 14:00 or later my time, 19:00 or later yours, same day, should be fine by me. Let me know early, post friend code, and I'll post when I'm ready. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 20:11, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Ok how dose 2300 my time sound (6pm yours) this Saturday? I gotta get that friend code still, I keep forgetting it will post it later. [[User:PhantomCX|PhantomCX]] 08:32, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

I think I should be able to. As for friend code, next time you come on, just TURN ON YOUR DS, even if you have to run and get it mid-post. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 21:09, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

I edit on Bulba at work most of the time & my DS is at home - not to worry mind fried code is 1160 9698 202, I will double check that cause it looks like I'm a number short & if it is I'll up date tonight from home. Let me know if the time is a problem - i can pretty much do 2130 till around Midnight any night [[User:PhantomCX|PhantomCX]] 07:22, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes, it is missing one in the third section, and I am usually up the same hours my time, starting at arount 7:00, out around 11, should be back by 1300, and probably up until aforementioned times @ home. I will post when I am ready, let me know what hours you can't do, and we're good. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 20:30, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

:Strike that, only able to battle 10:45 or earlier or 18:00 or later (my time). sorry for any problems this may cause. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 21:57, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Going to have to give tonight a miss - just turned on my DS but the top screen is not working at all - looks like i need a new one - any chance we can do this next Saturday?? Sorry [[User:PhantomCX|PhantomCX]] 10:16, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

:Next weekend is sort of confused, I will know by Wednesday or Thursday. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 12:14, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I was busy, how 'bout tomorrow (Monday), between 13:15 and 17:45 my time? [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 00:47, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

OK, Tuesday 10 thru Friday 20 I'm good, Tuesday all, Wed-Fri afternooon, weekend ?, week after all day, Mon-Fri. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 22:46, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

:Sorry not got back - still been without a DS - getting one tomnorrow, so how dose Friday 13 around 2300 my time sound

::...? Dunno, get back to u tomorrow, am very tired, cannot speak in good grammar, thing says tomorro is monday for me still. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 02:27, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Ok - No worries, my full friend code is 1160 9698 2025, finally got a new DS last night!! Let me know about Friday - if you cant do it then, then I can do pretty much any day after Friday at that time, just let me know [[User:PhantomCX|PhantomCX]] 07:15, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

: Forgot to ask as well - is the your Friend code still right??

::No, I need to get my Wi-fi re-hooked, my parents won't let me use it on my computer and I can't find the installation CD to put it on the other one. I'll let you know when something changes. [[User:Theininen|Thein]][[User talk:Theininen|inen]] 20:27, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

==Trades==

I will accept trades offered here, post what the Pokémon is and other relevant info (Lvl, Shiny, m/f, etc.) about it here or a Pokémon you want from me (same info), and I will respond with an offer, or make open offers to others. My Pearl friend code is 2449 2722 7683. -[[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 03:06, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

:Offering shiny Deoxys, shiny Carvanha, or Lv. 100 Blaziken, Metagross, Salamence, Flygon, Milotic, or Rayquaza for ANY shiny Pokémon. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 20:30, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
::Would you do a shiny Beedrill for a shiny Carvanha? [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 18:52, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Sure, see above for when, and please post friend code (Mine above). [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 19:22, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::::LOL I was gonna say. I thought that you meant I forgot about the trade all together. But I was like "hmmm could have sworn I responded". Unfortunately, that shiny Beedrill is gone. Sorry! If I get another shiny I'll let you know. [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 18:33, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

== Problem ==

About the thing that you asked {{u|Archaic}}.... Actually none of us can edit our user namespace. A lot of the users in the site are making a lot of edits ''only'' to their user namespace which is really not good. The admins decided to block that so the users would start making edits to the main namespace. The blocking is only temporary though. [[Image:Ani448MS.gif]][[User:Jmath|'''Jmath''']][[Image:Ani447MS.gif]][[User talk:Jmath|'''Talk''']][[Image:Ani448MS.gif]] 19:32, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
:It's a server test to see how much it'll reduce load, actually. Unfortunately, it's not doing much. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]][[Image:Ani155MS.gif|Fire echy]]''' 19:41, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
::[[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 21:00, 26 March 2008 (UTC)Thanks for telling me, I thought that it was something I had done. Do you have any idea when I will be able to? I want to make a signature and fix that link on my homepage :P

==My Customs==

When the testing of the server ends, click [[User:Theininen/Custom|here]] for my custom Pokéstuff (Pokémon, Poké Balls, etc.), it's pretty cool. -[[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 21:33, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

== Yanmega... ==

I almost forgot Yanmega ever existed...

[[User:AKgirl|AK]][[User talk:AKgirl|girl]]22:46, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

He's one of my favorites. No offense taken though. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 01:01, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

== Shines ==

Actually... eh, I like all of the shinies I have... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:01, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
:Could you [[Cloning|clone]] them? -[[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 02:09, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

== Deoxys ==

I suspect it is a hack as these characters are not normally input into the system. Ask your friend where he got the Deoxys from. If it wasn't at an event, probably a hack. '''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|{{tt|Optimatum♏|Optimus35}}]]</sc>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]02:07 30 Mar 2008'''

:I don't remember who I got it from, as it was at a summer camp, but as it seems to be otherwise normal, I will gve it the benefit of the doubt and assume that its original trainer was either extremely lucky, or had the time to turn their GBA on and off several times until they encountered it as a shiny. If I use it in a battle with someone and they see that it knows something or can do something it shouldn't be able to, please let me know. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 00:58, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

== Nonexistant Games ==

Please do not create articles about Pokémon games that do not exist. We could care less if Nintendo trademarks their names, if there's no game to a name, there's no article to it either. Make one more article about a Pokémon game that doesn't exist and I'll lower the boom. Hard. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 00:57, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Six-month block. Just because there are rumblings about Topaz, Amethyst, Whitegold, or Tourmaline, that doesn't mean those games actually exist. You were warned to stop making articles about Pokémon games that do not exist. Since you responded by making an article about a nonexistant Moonstone version, obviously you didn't listen.

Bulbapedia takes the Pokémon game canon very seriously, and we don't need articles about rumored names clogging up the place. If we responded to every rumor we hear about, we'd have an article at Dawn's Swinub about what could be a movie COTD's Swinub, the [[Ash's Gligar]] article would be at Ash's Gliscor even though the Gliscor could be {{OP|Paul|Gliscor}} or a COTD's, and all the rumblings about changes to {{an|May}}'s team for her reapperance would result in articles at May's Glaceon, May's Wartortle, and May's Snorlax.

Please take this next six months to sort out the facts from fiction, rumors, and speculation. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 01:06, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

:OK, after some criticism, including some people believing six months to be a bit extreme, I've decided to reduce your block to six weeks. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 01:29, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

::After several attempts, I managed to tell someone that it was an accident(see [[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]]'s talk for full story) and have returned. I will try to be more careful about what I do in the future. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 23:52, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

== Welcome Back ==

Welcome Back to Bulbapedia Theininen!

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*The word [[Poké Ball]] is spelled as two words. The "Poké" part is identical to the four beginning letters in "Pokémon"; "Ball" is spelled with a captial '''B''' (which is, again, accessed by holding Shift and pressing the B key). The spelling "Pokéball" arises frequently, but is incorrect.
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Thank you, and have a good time editing here!--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 20:11, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

:I know that you aren't supposed to mess with the welcome, but how do you do the é thing? I know that it is supossed to work, but I've tried the Alt + 130 and Alt + 0233 things, and they don't work. I can do it using the bar @ the bottom, just an accuracy thing. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 16:34, 11 May 2008 (UTC) (also posted above)
::Do you have Num Lock on? Turn it on, then use the numbers on the number pad. At least, that's how my computer does it; it's a notebook, so the number pad is sort of hidden in the rest of the keyboard... --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Talk))]] 07:27, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

:::Ok, it works. Thanks. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 20:12, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

== [[Pokémon Platinum]] ==
[[{{ns:6}}:Platinum Version Cartridge Concept Fake.PNG|right|thumb|Pokémon Platinum DS cartridge Concept]]
To begin with: FINALLY!!!!!

but 2009 US release?... oh well, at least its coming. Yay! [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 22:01, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

:Here's a cartridge concept I came up with. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 01:26, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

== Hacked Pokémon ==

How to spot 'em? Reply if you know how. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 21:52, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
:It varies from case to case. Any Pokémon with a move it can't get through level-up, breeding, tutoring, TM/HM, purification, or any other way I forgot to mention is hacked. Same with abilities; a {{a|Wonder Guard}} {{p|Spiritomb}} is one of the most popular hacked Pokémon out there. And sometimes, a Pokémon is just so ridiculous, you can tell it's hacked. I'm looking at my brother's Pearl Version (shh, don't tell him I took it), and he got a lv. 100 [[alternate coloration|shiny]] {{p|Deoxys}} that once had the [[Pokérus]] and was apparently "met at level 0" off the GTS. I can't tell you if it's stats are hacked, since I don't know much about what their value would be with high EVs, but I think it's pretty clear this isn't a completely legitimate Pokémon. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Talk))]] 22:08, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
::But I had heard that there were specific AR OT's and stuff like that, anything you know of? [[User:Theininen|Thein]][[User talk:Theininen|inen]] 20:16, 11 June 2008 (UTC) (P.S. like my new sig?)

As well as what Martonimos wrote

You can look at what Poké Ball they use – i.e. the only way to get Eevee, the starters from the main series and a few others is to either breed ‘em or be given them so they can only ever be in a normal Poké Ball.

Think of the probability of what they’ve got – i.e. The chances of getting 6 shinny Pokemon 1 in 49152 – the chances of getting 6 shinny with perfect stats is insurmountable (or rather I cant be bothered to work it all out). I dont think you can say it is impossible but to say it's extreamly unlikely is an understatment.

This only helps if you have access to the information but you can also check where they were caught (Dose that Pokémon really appear on that route??),at what level and also, if from Generation III, what region there from – A good example of the last point is Rayquaza – If it says it came from Kanto it is a hack, even if you trade it from Hoenn to Kanto and then migrate it should still say caught in Hoenn, the same can be said for the Lati@s and the reverse for Mewtwo. The only exception is the Ledgendary birds – of whom can be caught in XD and I’m not 100% sure what that says.

To answer the AR ones it I'm not to sure sorry. [[User:PhantomCX|PhantomCX]] 11:01, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

== Identifying Help ==

[[{{ns:6}}:Latias (TCG).jpg|right|thumb|Unidentified Latias TCG card]]
Could someone help me ID this card? I have a lot of cards from the same pack, including the matching Latios, but don't know where it came from. I'd like to make the page myself, but need to know what to make it as. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 20:12, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

== Trades ==

Sorry. I've read it before, but I say to myself "oh, that's alright. I'll just come back and reply later", but I forget. I'll get back to you tomorrow too. If I don't, remind me. [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 01:27, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
==Colors==
[[wp:List of colors|List of colors]]. works for here too '''[[User:Pachirisulover12|PL]][[User talk:Pachirisulover12|12]]''' 18:23, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:Gracias! [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 18:28, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::Ooooh awesome I never knew about that article. I used {{wp|Web colors|this one}}. [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 18:49, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

== Sig ==

Finally got it good. [[User:Theininen|Thein]][[User talk:Theininen|inen]] 20:14, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

== Summer ==

I will be unavailable most of the summer, here's when I will be able to do stuff:

:Saturday June 21st-Friday July 11th: Sleepaway camp; Edits intermittent, Wi-Fi Unknown.
:Saturday July 12th: At home; Edits possible, Wi-Fi unknown (see above in [[User talk:Theininen#Challenge|Challenge]])
:Sunday July 13th-Sunday July 20th: Other sleepaway camp; No connection at all.
:Monday July 21st onward, I should have Internet access; Wi-Fi still unknown.
I will have more details about 21st onward as it comes closer. [[User:Theininen|Thein]][[User talk:Theininen|inen]] 02:18, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Core series

2008-06-18T08:01:31Z

PhantomCX: Just re-worded as Champions don't always specialize in a specific type (Blue & Cynthia for example)

As it has been indicated in the past, every Pokémon in the [[Pokémon world|world]] has not yet been discovered, and regions in which these Pokémon are native are revealed gradually.

Currently, there are four [[generation]]s of Pokémon games, each with their own set of new Pokémon, moves, and several other things that have become the pattern of the [[main series]] so far.

What is so far assumed from the patterns that have run from [[Generation I]] to the present about Generation V and beyond is as follows:
*Initially, there will be two versions of the new games, each with their own capture rates and at least one unique legendary Pokémon. A third game will be released some time later, in which the unique Legendary Pokémon may both be caught.
**'''Evidence:''' The three-version formula has been in every generation, with the sole exception of Fire Red and Leaf Green. In addition, the third version has had both version-specific legendaries since version-specific legendaries were introduced in Generation III.
*A new [[region]] will be explored, isolated from previous regions. This region's [[route]]s will begin their numbering as X01, where X is the current generation minus 2.
**'''Evidence:''' [[Hoenn]]'s routes are numbered starting at {{rtn|101}} ({{Gen|III}}). [[Sinnoh]]'s routes are numbered starting at {{rtn|201}} ({{Gen|IV}}).
*A previously unknown [[Pokémon professor]] will reside in this region, will have {{type2|Grass}}, {{type2|Fire}}, and {{type2|Water}} Pokémon that the player will start with one of, and will be named after a tree in the English version.
**'''Evidence:''' Professors [[Professor Oak|Oak]], [[Professor Elm|Elm]], [[Professor Birch|Birch]], and [[Professor Rowan|Rowan]], their [[starter Pokémon]].
*More new Pokémon will be introduced. Some may be [[List of Pokémon with cross-generational evolutions|evolved forms]] or [[Baby Pokémon|pre-evolutions]] of Pokémon now known. The amount of new Pokémon introduced will likely not be below 100 or above 150.
**'''Evidence:''' Each generation after the first has introduced at least two Pokémon related to those of previous generations. The amount of Pokémon released each generation was 151, 100, 135, and 107.
*The new [[regional Pokédex]] will begin with the starter Pokémon and their evolutionary kin as #001-#009, in the order of Grass-Fire-Water. It will lack at least some Pokémon. The [[National Dex]] numbers of new Pokémon will start with #494 for the Grass-type starter and continue on at least up to #593 if at least 100 Pokémon are added.
**'''Evidence:''' [[List of Pokémon by Hoenn Dex number|Hoenn's regional Pokédex]] leaves out 184 Pokémon. [[List of Pokémon by Sinnoh Dex number|Sinnoh's regional Pokédex]] leaves out 342 Pokémon.
*There will be eight [[Pokémon Gym]]s, an [[Elite Four]], each of which will specialize in a specific [[elemental type]], and a [[Champion]] at the end of the Elite Four.
**'''Evidence:''' This is part of the standard [[version]] formula.
*There will be an {{pkmn|anime}} season, some {{pkmn|Special}} chapters, some other {{pkmn|manga}}, and at least one {{pkmn|Trading Card Game}} expansion based on them.
**'''Evidence:''' This has happened to every [[Version|main game]] and [[generation]] since {{pkmn|Red and Blue}} in [[Generation I]].
*{{p|Pikachu}} will be found in the new region.
**'''Evidence:''' The series mascot can be caught in every portable Pokémon game, except [[Pokémon Yellow Version|Pokémon Yellow]] where it is the starter.
*{{p|Tentacool}} and/or {{p|Tentacruel}} will be found in the new region's seas.
**'''Evidence:''' There has not been one [[sea route]] yet where one of those two hasn't been found.
*{{p|Magikarp}} and/or {{p|Gyarados}} will be found in the new region's seas.
**'''Evidence:''' In all the regions, using an Old Rod would always (except Hoenn, where Tentacool can sometimes be fished up) hook a Magikarp.
*There will be at least one [[legendary trio]] in the next generation, and at least two other legendary Pokémon.
**'''Evidence:''' There have always been legendary trios and legendary Pokémon in each generation.
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[[Category:Games]]

User talk:Theininen

2008-06-11T15:56:07Z

PhantomCX:

==Welcome==
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Thank you, and have a good time editing here! [[User:Tesh|'''TESHIGIGAS''']] [[Image:Ani486MS.gif|{{{2|486}}}]] 16:22, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

:I know that you aren't supposed to mess with the welcome, but how do you do the é thing? I know that it is supossed to work, but I've tried the Alt + 130 and Alt + 0233 things, and they don't work. I can do it using the bar @ the bottom, just an accuracy thing. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 16:34, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

==Theininen's Talk Page==

This is my talk page! Feel free to comment on my edits or page.

:Btw, I operate in UTC-4, or something, NY time, so that's when I'll be on (just subtract 4 hours from the UTC time for my time, & use the "My Prefrences" at the top of the page to see how you differ from UTC, and compare the two to get the difference.) -[[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 00:47, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

=='''CHALLENGE'''==
I am issuing an open challenge! I will accept any challenge against my best team (to be posted on my homepage) that is posted on my board with a Friend code, and will post the time in NY local time that I will be online waiting for the challenger. I will post victories and losses, along with challengers' names, on my board. My Pearl friend code is 2449 2722 7683.

I will accept your challenge but for nearer the weekend, still got some training to do - let me know any rules you want to enforce (No Ubers etc) and your PBR or D/P friend code and I'll let you know my team & my friend code once I know the platform / rules. Also I'm 5 hrs infront of you (I think) GMT+1hr [[User:PhantomCX|PhantomCX]] 11:49, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

:No rules, but NO ridiculous hacks (Sableye with Wonder Guard, psychocotic stats, etc.), I'll battle with all Lv. 100's advise you to do the same (if you can't, I can figure out something else to do), I don't need to know your team, and I won't tell mine (as I won't know until the battle myself), and I only have Pearl, my code is 2449 2722 7683, and I should be able to battle sometime between 2 and 2:45 (my time, I think 7 to 7:45 yours, but to confirm, this post was edited at 8:33 my time, check listed post time for confirmation)). Keep an eye on this talk, I'll let you know when I can. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 00:36, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Ok no problem I’ll give you my D/P code tonight / tomorrow AM. I think I’m 4hrs ahead (this is being posting at 0910am my time) as for the teams that fair enough Ibut just to warn you I will be usining UBERS unless you spciffically don't want me to. Also - if there are any Pokemon that can be breed you want, I have at least one form of all Pokemon and am willing to breed these for trading (see [[User:PhantomCX/Operation ALP]] for more details) - it may only be a level one basic / baby, but at least you can then level it up etc [[User:PhantomCX|PhantomCX]] 08:21, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

:Ubers are fine, but I can't battle until 4 or later my time (9 or later urs, sorry) but I will post when I am ready, add my page to your watchlist so you know when I edit on. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 23:16, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Already have no worries just give me about 3 days notice so I can make sure my team is ready - forgot my friend code too (Damn!!!!) so I'll put it on tonight [[User:PhantomCX|PhantomCX]] 07:21, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Saturday 5/17, 8:00 my time (13:00 yours) should be fine. If not, 14:00 or later my time, 19:00 or later yours, same day, should be fine by me. Let me know early, post friend code, and I'll post when I'm ready. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 20:11, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Ok how dose 2300 my time sound (6pm yours) this Saturday? I gotta get that friend code still, I keep forgetting it will post it later. [[User:PhantomCX|PhantomCX]] 08:32, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

I think I should be able to. As for friend code, next time you come on, just TURN ON YOUR DS, even if you have to run and get it mid-post. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 21:09, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

I edit on Bulba at work most of the time & my DS is at home - not to worry mind fried code is 1160 9698 202, I will double check that cause it looks like I'm a number short & if it is I'll up date tonight from home. Let me know if the time is a problem - i can pretty much do 2130 till around Midnight any night [[User:PhantomCX|PhantomCX]] 07:22, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes, it is missing one in the third section, and I am usually up the same hours my time, starting at arount 7:00, out around 11, should be back by 1300, and probably up until aforementioned times @ home. I will post when I am ready, let me know what hours you can't do, and we're good. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 20:30, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

:Strike that, only able to battle 10:45 or earlier or 18:00 or later (my time). sorry for any problems this may cause. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 21:57, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Going to have to give tonight a miss - just turned on my DS but the top screen is not working at all - looks like i need a new one - any chance we can do this next Saturday?? Sorry [[User:PhantomCX|PhantomCX]] 10:16, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

:Next weekend is sort of confused, I will know by Wednesday or Thursday. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 12:14, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I was busy, how 'bout tomorrow (Monday), between 13:15 and 17:45 my time? [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 00:47, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

OK, Tuesday 10 thru Friday 20 I'm good, Tuesday all, Wed-Fri afternooon, weekend ?, week after all day, Mon-Fri. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 22:46, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

:Sorry not got back - still been without a DS - getting one tomnorrow, so how dose Friday 13 around 2300 my time sound

::...? Dunno, get back to u tomorrow, am very tired, cannot speak in good grammar, thing says tomorro is monday for me still. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 02:27, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Ok - No worries, my full friend code is 1160 9698 2025, finally got a new DS last night!! Let me know about Friday - if you cant do it then, then I can do pretty much any day after Friday at that time, just let me know [[User:PhantomCX|PhantomCX]] 07:15, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

: Forgot to ask as well - is the your Freind code still right??

==Trades==

I will accept trades offered here, post what the Pokémon is and other relevant info (Lvl, Shiny, m/f, etc.) about it here or a Pokémon you want from me (same info), and I will respond with an offer, or make open offers to others. My Pearl friend code is 2449 2722 7683. -[[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 03:06, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

:Offering shiny Deoxys, shiny Carvanha, or Lv. 100 Blaziken, Metagross, Salamence, Flygon, Milotic, or Rayquaza for ANY shiny Pokémon. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 20:30, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
::Would you do a shiny Beedrill for a shiny Carvanha? [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 18:52, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Sure, see above for when, and please post friend code (Mine above). [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 19:22, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

== Problem ==

About the thing that you asked {{u|Archaic}}.... Actually none of us can edit our user namespace. A lot of the users in the site are making a lot of edits ''only'' to their user namespace which is really not good. The admins decided to block that so the users would start making edits to the main namespace. The blocking is only temporary though. [[Image:Ani448MS.gif]][[User:Jmath|'''Jmath''']][[Image:Ani447MS.gif]][[User talk:Jmath|'''Talk''']][[Image:Ani448MS.gif]] 19:32, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
:It's a server test to see how much it'll reduce load, actually. Unfortunately, it's not doing much. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]][[Image:Ani155MS.gif|Fire echy]]''' 19:41, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
::[[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 21:00, 26 March 2008 (UTC)Thanks for telling me, I thought that it was something I had done. Do you have any idea when I will be able to? I want to make a signature and fix that link on my homepage :P

==My Customs==

When the testing of the server ends, click [[User:Theininen/Custom|here]] for my custom Pokéstuff (Pokémon, Poké Balls, etc.), it's pretty cool. -[[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 21:33, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

== Yanmega... ==

I almost forgot Yanmega ever existed...

[[User:AKgirl|AK]][[User talk:AKgirl|girl]]22:46, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

He's one of my favorites. No offense taken though. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 01:01, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

== Shines ==

Actually... eh, I like all of the shinies I have... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:01, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
:Could you [[Cloning|clone]] them? -[[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 02:09, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

== Deoxys ==

I suspect it is a hack as these characters are not normally input into the system. Ask your friend where he got the Deoxys from. If it wasn't at an event, probably a hack. '''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|{{tt|Optimatum♏|Optimus35}}]]</sc>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]02:07 30 Mar 2008'''

:I don't remember who I got it from, as it was at a summer camp, but as it seems to be otherwise normal, I will gve it the benefit of the doubt and assume that its original trainer was either extremely lucky, or had the time to turn their GBA on and off several times until they encountered it as a shiny. If I use it in a battle with someone and they see that it knows something or can do something it shouldn't be able to, please let me know. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 00:58, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

== Nonexistant Games ==

Please do not create articles about Pokémon games that do not exist. We could care less if Nintendo trademarks their names, if there's no game to a name, there's no article to it either. Make one more article about a Pokémon game that doesn't exist and I'll lower the boom. Hard. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 00:57, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Six-month block. Just because there are rumblings about Topaz, Amethyst, Whitegold, or Tourmaline, that doesn't mean those games actually exist. You were warned to stop making articles about Pokémon games that do not exist. Since you responded by making an article about a nonexistant Moonstone version, obviously you didn't listen.

Bulbapedia takes the Pokémon game canon very seriously, and we don't need articles about rumored names clogging up the place. If we responded to every rumor we hear about, we'd have an article at Dawn's Swinub about what could be a movie COTD's Swinub, the [[Ash's Gligar]] article would be at Ash's Gliscor even though the Gliscor could be {{OP|Paul|Gliscor}} or a COTD's, and all the rumblings about changes to {{an|May}}'s team for her reapperance would result in articles at May's Glaceon, May's Wartortle, and May's Snorlax.

Please take this next six months to sort out the facts from fiction, rumors, and speculation. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 01:06, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

:OK, after some criticism, including some people believing six months to be a bit extreme, I've decided to reduce your block to six weeks. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 01:29, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

::After several attempts, I managed to tell someone that it was an accident(see [[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]]'s talk for full story) and have returned. I will try to be more careful about what I do in the future. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 23:52, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

== Welcome Back ==

Welcome Back to Bulbapedia Theininen!

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Thank you, and have a good time editing here!--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 20:11, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

:I know that you aren't supposed to mess with the welcome, but how do you do the é thing? I know that it is supossed to work, but I've tried the Alt + 130 and Alt + 0233 things, and they don't work. I can do it using the bar @ the bottom, just an accuracy thing. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 16:34, 11 May 2008 (UTC) (also posted above)
::Do you have Num Lock on? Turn it on, then use the numbers on the number pad. At least, that's how my computer does it; it's a notebook, so the number pad is sort of hidden in the rest of the keyboard... --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Talk))]] 07:27, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

:::Ok, it works. Thanks. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 20:12, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

== [[Pokémon Platinum]] ==
[[{{ns:6}}:Platinum Version Cartridge Concept Fake.PNG|right|thumb|Pokémon Platinum DS cartridge Concept]]
To begin with: FINALLY!!!!!

but 2009 US release?... oh well, at least its coming. Yay! [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 22:01, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

:Here's a cartridge concept I came up with. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 01:26, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

== Hacked Pokémon ==

How to spot 'em? Reply if you know how. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 21:52, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
:It varies from case to case. Any Pokémon with a move it can't get through level-up, breeding, tutoring, TM/HM, purification, or any other way I forgot to mention is hacked. Same with abilities; a {{a|Wonder Guard}} {{p|Spiritomb}} is one of the most popular hacked Pokémon out there. And sometimes, a Pokémon is just so ridiculous, you can tell it's hacked. I'm looking at my brother's Pearl Version (shh, don't tell him I took it), and he got a lv. 100 [[alternate coloration|shiny]] {{p|Deoxys}} that once had the [[Pokérus]] and was apparently "met at level 0" off the GTS. I can't tell you if it's stats are hacked, since I don't know much about what their value would be with high EVs, but I think it's pretty clear this isn't a completely legitimate Pokémon. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Talk))]] 22:08, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

== Identifying Help ==

[[{{ns:6}}:Latias (TCG).jpg|right|thumb|Unidentified Latias TCG card]]
Could someone help me ID this card? I have a lot of cards from the same pack, including the matching Latios, but don't know where it came from. I'd like to make the page myself, but need to know what to make it as. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 20:12, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

== Trades ==

Sorry. I've read it before, but I say to myself "oh, that's alright. I'll just come back and reply later", but I forget. I'll get back to you tomorrow too. If I don't, remind me. [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 01:27, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
==Colors==
[[wp:List of colors|List of colors]]. works for here too '''[[User:Pachirisulover12|PL]][[User talk:Pachirisulover12|12]]''' 18:23, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:Gracias! [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 18:28, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::Ooooh awesome I never knew about that article. I used {{wp|Web colors|this one}}. [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 18:49, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

User talk:Theininen

2008-06-10T07:15:52Z

PhantomCX:

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Thank you, and have a good time editing here! [[User:Tesh|'''TESHIGIGAS''']] [[Image:Ani486MS.gif|{{{2|486}}}]] 16:22, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

:I know that you aren't supposed to mess with the welcome, but how do you do the é thing? I know that it is supossed to work, but I've tried the Alt + 130 and Alt + 0233 things, and they don't work. I can do it using the bar @ the bottom, just an accuracy thing. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 16:34, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

==Theininen's Talk Page==

This is my talk page! Feel free to comment on my edits or page.

:Btw, I operate in UTC-4, or something, NY time, so that's when I'll be on (just subtract 4 hours from the UTC time for my time, & use the "My Prefrences" at the top of the page to see how you differ from UTC, and compare the two to get the difference.) -[[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 00:47, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

=='''CHALLENGE'''==
I am issuing an open challenge! I will accept any challenge against my best team (to be posted on my homepage) that is posted on my board with a Friend code, and will post the time in NY local time that I will be online waiting for the challenger. I will post victories and losses, along with challengers' names, on my board. My Pearl friend code is 2449 2722 7683.

I will accept your challenge but for nearer the weekend, still got some training to do - let me know any rules you want to enforce (No Ubers etc) and your PBR or D/P friend code and I'll let you know my team & my friend code once I know the platform / rules. Also I'm 5 hrs infront of you (I think) GMT+1hr [[User:PhantomCX|PhantomCX]] 11:49, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

:No rules, but NO ridiculous hacks (Sableye with Wonder Guard, psychocotic stats, etc.), I'll battle with all Lv. 100's advise you to do the same (if you can't, I can figure out something else to do), I don't need to know your team, and I won't tell mine (as I won't know until the battle myself), and I only have Pearl, my code is 2449 2722 7683, and I should be able to battle sometime between 2 and 2:45 (my time, I think 7 to 7:45 yours, but to confirm, this post was edited at 8:33 my time, check listed post time for confirmation)). Keep an eye on this talk, I'll let you know when I can. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 00:36, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Ok no problem I’ll give you my D/P code tonight / tomorrow AM. I think I’m 4hrs ahead (this is being posting at 0910am my time) as for the teams that fair enough Ibut just to warn you I will be usining UBERS unless you spciffically don't want me to. Also - if there are any Pokemon that can be breed you want, I have at least one form of all Pokemon and am willing to breed these for trading (see [[User:PhantomCX/Operation ALP]] for more details) - it may only be a level one basic / baby, but at least you can then level it up etc [[User:PhantomCX|PhantomCX]] 08:21, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

:Ubers are fine, but I can't battle until 4 or later my time (9 or later urs, sorry) but I will post when I am ready, add my page to your watchlist so you know when I edit on. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 23:16, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Already have no worries just give me about 3 days notice so I can make sure my team is ready - forgot my friend code too (Damn!!!!) so I'll put it on tonight [[User:PhantomCX|PhantomCX]] 07:21, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Saturday 5/17, 8:00 my time (13:00 yours) should be fine. If not, 14:00 or later my time, 19:00 or later yours, same day, should be fine by me. Let me know early, post friend code, and I'll post when I'm ready. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 20:11, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Ok how dose 2300 my time sound (6pm yours) this Saturday? I gotta get that friend code still, I keep forgetting it will post it later. [[User:PhantomCX|PhantomCX]] 08:32, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

I think I should be able to. As for friend code, next time you come on, just TURN ON YOUR DS, even if you have to run and get it mid-post. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 21:09, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

I edit on Bulba at work most of the time & my DS is at home - not to worry mind fried code is 1160 9698 202, I will double check that cause it looks like I'm a number short & if it is I'll up date tonight from home. Let me know if the time is a problem - i can pretty much do 2130 till around Midnight any night [[User:PhantomCX|PhantomCX]] 07:22, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes, it is missing one in the third section, and I am usually up the same hours my time, starting at arount 7:00, out around 11, should be back by 1300, and probably up until aforementioned times @ home. I will post when I am ready, let me know what hours you can't do, and we're good. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 20:30, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

:Strike that, only able to battle 10:45 or earlier or 18:00 or later (my time). sorry for any problems this may cause. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 21:57, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Going to have to give tonight a miss - just turned on my DS but the top screen is not working at all - looks like i need a new one - any chance we can do this next Saturday?? Sorry [[User:PhantomCX|PhantomCX]] 10:16, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

:Next weekend is sort of confused, I will know by Wednesday or Thursday. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 12:14, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I was busy, how 'bout tomorrow (Monday), between 13:15 and 17:45 my time? [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 00:47, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

OK, Tuesday 10 thru Friday 20 I'm good, Tuesday all, Wed-Fri afternooon, weekend ?, week after all day, Mon-Fri. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 22:46, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

:Sorry not got back - still been without a DS - getting one tomnorrow, so how dose Friday 13 around 2300 my time sound

::...? Dunno, get back to u tomorrow, am very tired, cannot speak in good grammar, thing says tomorro is monday for me still. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 02:27, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Ok - No worries, my full friend code is 1160 9698 2025, finally got a new DS last night!! Let me know about Friday - if you cant do it then, then I can do pretty much any day after Friday at that time, just let me know [[User:PhantomCX|PhantomCX]] 07:15, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

==Trades==

I will accept trades offered here, post what the Pokémon is and other relevant info (Lvl, Shiny, m/f, etc.) about it here or a Pokémon you want from me (same info), and I will respond with an offer, or make open offers to others. My Pearl friend code is 2449 2722 7683. -[[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 03:06, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

:Offering shiny Deoxys, shiny Carvanha, or Lv. 100 Blaziken, Metagross, Salamence, Flygon, Milotic, or Rayquaza for ANY shiny Pokémon. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 20:30, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
::Would you do a shiny Beedrill for a shiny Carvanha? [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 18:52, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Sure, see above for when, and please post friend code (Mine above). [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 19:22, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

== Problem ==

About the thing that you asked {{u|Archaic}}.... Actually none of us can edit our user namespace. A lot of the users in the site are making a lot of edits ''only'' to their user namespace which is really not good. The admins decided to block that so the users would start making edits to the main namespace. The blocking is only temporary though. [[Image:Ani448MS.gif]][[User:Jmath|'''Jmath''']][[Image:Ani447MS.gif]][[User talk:Jmath|'''Talk''']][[Image:Ani448MS.gif]] 19:32, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
:It's a server test to see how much it'll reduce load, actually. Unfortunately, it's not doing much. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]][[Image:Ani155MS.gif|Fire echy]]''' 19:41, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
::[[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 21:00, 26 March 2008 (UTC)Thanks for telling me, I thought that it was something I had done. Do you have any idea when I will be able to? I want to make a signature and fix that link on my homepage :P

==My Customs==

When the testing of the server ends, click [[User:Theininen/Custom|here]] for my custom Pokéstuff (Pokémon, Poké Balls, etc.), it's pretty cool. -[[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 21:33, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

== Yanmega... ==

I almost forgot Yanmega ever existed...

[[User:AKgirl|AK]][[User talk:AKgirl|girl]]22:46, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

He's one of my favorites. No offense taken though. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 01:01, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

== Shines ==

Actually... eh, I like all of the shinies I have... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:01, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
:Could you [[Cloning|clone]] them? -[[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 02:09, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

== Deoxys ==

I suspect it is a hack as these characters are not normally input into the system. Ask your friend where he got the Deoxys from. If it wasn't at an event, probably a hack. '''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|{{tt|Optimatum♏|Optimus35}}]]</sc>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]02:07 30 Mar 2008'''

:I don't remember who I got it from, as it was at a summer camp, but as it seems to be otherwise normal, I will gve it the benefit of the doubt and assume that its original trainer was either extremely lucky, or had the time to turn their GBA on and off several times until they encountered it as a shiny. If I use it in a battle with someone and they see that it knows something or can do something it shouldn't be able to, please let me know. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 00:58, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

== Nonexistant Games ==

Please do not create articles about Pokémon games that do not exist. We could care less if Nintendo trademarks their names, if there's no game to a name, there's no article to it either. Make one more article about a Pokémon game that doesn't exist and I'll lower the boom. Hard. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 00:57, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Six-month block. Just because there are rumblings about Topaz, Amethyst, Whitegold, or Tourmaline, that doesn't mean those games actually exist. You were warned to stop making articles about Pokémon games that do not exist. Since you responded by making an article about a nonexistant Moonstone version, obviously you didn't listen.

Bulbapedia takes the Pokémon game canon very seriously, and we don't need articles about rumored names clogging up the place. If we responded to every rumor we hear about, we'd have an article at Dawn's Swinub about what could be a movie COTD's Swinub, the [[Ash's Gligar]] article would be at Ash's Gliscor even though the Gliscor could be {{OP|Paul|Gliscor}} or a COTD's, and all the rumblings about changes to {{an|May}}'s team for her reapperance would result in articles at May's Glaceon, May's Wartortle, and May's Snorlax.

Please take this next six months to sort out the facts from fiction, rumors, and speculation. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 01:06, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

:OK, after some criticism, including some people believing six months to be a bit extreme, I've decided to reduce your block to six weeks. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 01:29, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

::After several attempts, I managed to tell someone that it was an accident(see [[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]]'s talk for full story) and have returned. I will try to be more careful about what I do in the future. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 23:52, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

== Welcome Back ==

Welcome Back to Bulbapedia Theininen!

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*The word [[Poké Ball]] is spelled as two words. The "Poké" part is identical to the four beginning letters in "Pokémon"; "Ball" is spelled with a captial '''B''' (which is, again, accessed by holding Shift and pressing the B key). The spelling "Pokéball" arises frequently, but is incorrect.
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Thank you, and have a good time editing here!--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 20:11, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

:I know that you aren't supposed to mess with the welcome, but how do you do the é thing? I know that it is supossed to work, but I've tried the Alt + 130 and Alt + 0233 things, and they don't work. I can do it using the bar @ the bottom, just an accuracy thing. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 16:34, 11 May 2008 (UTC) (also posted above)
::Do you have Num Lock on? Turn it on, then use the numbers on the number pad. At least, that's how my computer does it; it's a notebook, so the number pad is sort of hidden in the rest of the keyboard... --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Talk))]] 07:27, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

:::Ok, it works. Thanks. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 20:12, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

== [[Pokémon Platinum]] ==
[[{{ns:6}}:Platinum Version Cartridge Concept Fake.PNG|right|thumb|Pokémon Platinum DS cartridge Concept]]
To begin with: FINALLY!!!!!

but 2009 US release?... oh well, at least its coming. Yay! [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 22:01, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

:Here's a cartridge concept I came up with. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 01:26, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

== Hacked Pokémon ==

How to spot 'em? Reply if you know how. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 21:52, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
:It varies from case to case. Any Pokémon with a move it can't get through level-up, breeding, tutoring, TM/HM, purification, or any other way I forgot to mention is hacked. Same with abilities; a {{a|Wonder Guard}} {{p|Spiritomb}} is one of the most popular hacked Pokémon out there. And sometimes, a Pokémon is just so ridiculous, you can tell it's hacked. I'm looking at my brother's Pearl Version (shh, don't tell him I took it), and he got a lv. 100 [[alternate coloration|shiny]] {{p|Deoxys}} that once had the [[Pokérus]] and was apparently "met at level 0" off the GTS. I can't tell you if it's stats are hacked, since I don't know much about what their value would be with high EVs, but I think it's pretty clear this isn't a completely legitimate Pokémon. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Talk))]] 22:08, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

== Identifying Help ==

[[{{ns:6}}:Latias (TCG).jpg|right|thumb|Unidentified Latias TCG card]]
Could someone help me ID this card? I have a lot of cards from the same pack, including the matching Latios, but don't know where it came from. I'd like to make the page myself, but need to know what to make it as. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 20:12, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

== Trades ==

Sorry. I've read it before, but I say to myself "oh, that's alright. I'll just come back and reply later", but I forget. I'll get back to you tomorrow too. If I don't, remind me. [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 01:27, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
==Colors==
[[wp:List of colors|List of colors]]. works for here too '''[[User:Pachirisulover12|PL]][[User talk:Pachirisulover12|12]]''' 18:23, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:Gracias! [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 18:28, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::Ooooh awesome I never knew about that article. I used {{wp|Web colors|this one}}. [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 18:49, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

User talk:Theininen

2008-06-09T08:34:40Z

PhantomCX:

==Welcome==
Welcome to [[Bulbapedia]], {{BASEPAGENAME}}!

As a new user, you may wish to learn a few things that will be useful in your editing:
*For a basic overview of wiki code, see [[Help:Editing|this page]].
*The {{bp|manual of style}} is very important. Make sure to read it. It outlines all official policies of Bulbapedia.
*The word [[Pokémon]] is spelled with a capital '''P''' and an accented '''é'''. The P, of course, is accessed easily by holding Shift and pressing the P key, while the é can be accessed using Alt + 130 or Alt + 0233 on a Windows computer, and Option + e, then e again on a Mac. Otherwise, you can click it in the character palette below the editbox.
*The word [[Poké Ball]] is spelled as two words. The "Poké" part is identical to the four beginning letters in "Pokémon"; "Ball" is spelled with a captial '''B''' (which is, again, accessed by holding Shift and pressing the B key). The spelling "Pokéball" arises frequently, but is incorrect.
*The word "you" and all forms of it should not be used on encyclopedic pages unless it is a quote from Pokémon media. Bulbapedia is an encyclopedia, not a walkthrough.
*On {{bp|talk page}}s, please sign your comments with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>).
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Thank you, and have a good time editing here! [[User:Tesh|'''TESHIGIGAS''']] [[Image:Ani486MS.gif|{{{2|486}}}]] 16:22, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

:I know that you aren't supposed to mess with the welcome, but how do you do the é thing? I know that it is supossed to work, but I've tried the Alt + 130 and Alt + 0233 things, and they don't work. I can do it using the bar @ the bottom, just an accuracy thing. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 16:34, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

==Theininen's Talk Page==

This is my talk page! Feel free to comment on my edits or page.

:Btw, I operate in UTC-4, or something, NY time, so that's when I'll be on (just subtract 4 hours from the UTC time for my time, & use the "My Prefrences" at the top of the page to see how you differ from UTC, and compare the two to get the difference.) -[[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 00:47, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

=='''CHALLENGE'''==
I am issuing an open challenge! I will accept any challenge against my best team (to be posted on my homepage) that is posted on my board with a Friend code, and will post the time in NY local time that I will be online waiting for the challenger. I will post victories and losses, along with challengers' names, on my board. My Pearl friend code is 2449 2722 7683.

I will accept your challenge but for nearer the weekend, still got some training to do - let me know any rules you want to enforce (No Ubers etc) and your PBR or D/P friend code and I'll let you know my team & my friend code once I know the platform / rules. Also I'm 5 hrs infront of you (I think) GMT+1hr [[User:PhantomCX|PhantomCX]] 11:49, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

:No rules, but NO ridiculous hacks (Sableye with Wonder Guard, psychocotic stats, etc.), I'll battle with all Lv. 100's advise you to do the same (if you can't, I can figure out something else to do), I don't need to know your team, and I won't tell mine (as I won't know until the battle myself), and I only have Pearl, my code is 2449 2722 7683, and I should be able to battle sometime between 2 and 2:45 (my time, I think 7 to 7:45 yours, but to confirm, this post was edited at 8:33 my time, check listed post time for confirmation)). Keep an eye on this talk, I'll let you know when I can. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 00:36, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Ok no problem I’ll give you my D/P code tonight / tomorrow AM. I think I’m 4hrs ahead (this is being posting at 0910am my time) as for the teams that fair enough Ibut just to warn you I will be usining UBERS unless you spciffically don't want me to. Also - if there are any Pokemon that can be breed you want, I have at least one form of all Pokemon and am willing to breed these for trading (see [[User:PhantomCX/Operation ALP]] for more details) - it may only be a level one basic / baby, but at least you can then level it up etc [[User:PhantomCX|PhantomCX]] 08:21, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

:Ubers are fine, but I can't battle until 4 or later my time (9 or later urs, sorry) but I will post when I am ready, add my page to your watchlist so you know when I edit on. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 23:16, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Already have no worries just give me about 3 days notice so I can make sure my team is ready - forgot my friend code too (Damn!!!!) so I'll put it on tonight [[User:PhantomCX|PhantomCX]] 07:21, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Saturday 5/17, 8:00 my time (13:00 yours) should be fine. If not, 14:00 or later my time, 19:00 or later yours, same day, should be fine by me. Let me know early, post friend code, and I'll post when I'm ready. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 20:11, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Ok how dose 2300 my time sound (6pm yours) this Saturday? I gotta get that friend code still, I keep forgetting it will post it later. [[User:PhantomCX|PhantomCX]] 08:32, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

I think I should be able to. As for friend code, next time you come on, just TURN ON YOUR DS, even if you have to run and get it mid-post. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 21:09, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

I edit on Bulba at work most of the time & my DS is at home - not to worry mind fried code is 1160 9698 202, I will double check that cause it looks like I'm a number short & if it is I'll up date tonight from home. Let me know if the time is a problem - i can pretty much do 2130 till around Midnight any night [[User:PhantomCX|PhantomCX]] 07:22, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes, it is missing one in the third section, and I am usually up the same hours my time, starting at arount 7:00, out around 11, should be back by 1300, and probably up until aforementioned times @ home. I will post when I am ready, let me know what hours you can't do, and we're good. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 20:30, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

:Strike that, only able to battle 10:45 or earlier or 18:00 or later (my time). sorry for any problems this may cause. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 21:57, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Going to have to give tonight a miss - just turned on my DS but the top screen is not working at all - looks like i need a new one - any chance we can do this next Saturday?? Sorry [[User:PhantomCX|PhantomCX]] 10:16, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

:Next weekend is sort of confused, I will know by Wednesday or Thursday. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 12:14, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I was busy, how 'bout tomorrow (Monday), between 13:15 and 17:45 my time? [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 00:47, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

OK, Tuesday 10 thru Friday 20 I'm good, Tuesday all, Wed-Fri afternooon, weekend ?, week after all day, Mon-Fri. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 22:46, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

:Sorry not got back - still been without a DS - getting one tomnorrow, so how dose Friday 13 around 2300 my time sound

==Trades==

I will accept trades offered here, post what the Pokémon is and other relevant info (Lvl, Shiny, m/f, etc.) about it here or a Pokémon you want from me (same info), and I will respond with an offer, or make open offers to others. My Pearl friend code is 2449 2722 7683. -[[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 03:06, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

:Offering shiny Deoxys, shiny Carvanha, or Lv. 100 Blaziken, Metagross, Salamence, Flygon, Milotic, or Rayquaza for ANY shiny Pokémon. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 20:30, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
::Would you do a shiny Beedrill for a shiny Carvanha? [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 18:52, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Sure, see above for when, and please post friend code (Mine above). [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 19:22, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

== Problem ==

About the thing that you asked {{u|Archaic}}.... Actually none of us can edit our user namespace. A lot of the users in the site are making a lot of edits ''only'' to their user namespace which is really not good. The admins decided to block that so the users would start making edits to the main namespace. The blocking is only temporary though. [[Image:Ani448MS.gif]][[User:Jmath|'''Jmath''']][[Image:Ani447MS.gif]][[User talk:Jmath|'''Talk''']][[Image:Ani448MS.gif]] 19:32, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
:It's a server test to see how much it'll reduce load, actually. Unfortunately, it's not doing much. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]][[Image:Ani155MS.gif|Fire echy]]''' 19:41, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
::[[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 21:00, 26 March 2008 (UTC)Thanks for telling me, I thought that it was something I had done. Do you have any idea when I will be able to? I want to make a signature and fix that link on my homepage :P

==My Customs==

When the testing of the server ends, click [[User:Theininen/Custom|here]] for my custom Pokéstuff (Pokémon, Poké Balls, etc.), it's pretty cool. -[[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 21:33, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

== Yanmega... ==

I almost forgot Yanmega ever existed...

[[User:AKgirl|AK]][[User talk:AKgirl|girl]]22:46, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

He's one of my favorites. No offense taken though. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 01:01, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

== Shines ==

Actually... eh, I like all of the shinies I have... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:01, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
:Could you [[Cloning|clone]] them? -[[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 02:09, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

== Deoxys ==

I suspect it is a hack as these characters are not normally input into the system. Ask your friend where he got the Deoxys from. If it wasn't at an event, probably a hack. '''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|{{tt|Optimatum♏|Optimus35}}]]</sc>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]02:07 30 Mar 2008'''

:I don't remember who I got it from, as it was at a summer camp, but as it seems to be otherwise normal, I will gve it the benefit of the doubt and assume that its original trainer was either extremely lucky, or had the time to turn their GBA on and off several times until they encountered it as a shiny. If I use it in a battle with someone and they see that it knows something or can do something it shouldn't be able to, please let me know. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 00:58, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

== Nonexistant Games ==

Please do not create articles about Pokémon games that do not exist. We could care less if Nintendo trademarks their names, if there's no game to a name, there's no article to it either. Make one more article about a Pokémon game that doesn't exist and I'll lower the boom. Hard. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 00:57, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Six-month block. Just because there are rumblings about Topaz, Amethyst, Whitegold, or Tourmaline, that doesn't mean those games actually exist. You were warned to stop making articles about Pokémon games that do not exist. Since you responded by making an article about a nonexistant Moonstone version, obviously you didn't listen.

Bulbapedia takes the Pokémon game canon very seriously, and we don't need articles about rumored names clogging up the place. If we responded to every rumor we hear about, we'd have an article at Dawn's Swinub about what could be a movie COTD's Swinub, the [[Ash's Gligar]] article would be at Ash's Gliscor even though the Gliscor could be {{OP|Paul|Gliscor}} or a COTD's, and all the rumblings about changes to {{an|May}}'s team for her reapperance would result in articles at May's Glaceon, May's Wartortle, and May's Snorlax.

Please take this next six months to sort out the facts from fiction, rumors, and speculation. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 01:06, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

:OK, after some criticism, including some people believing six months to be a bit extreme, I've decided to reduce your block to six weeks. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 01:29, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

::After several attempts, I managed to tell someone that it was an accident(see [[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]]'s talk for full story) and have returned. I will try to be more careful about what I do in the future. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 23:52, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

== Welcome Back ==

Welcome Back to Bulbapedia Theininen!

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Thank you, and have a good time editing here!--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 20:11, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

:I know that you aren't supposed to mess with the welcome, but how do you do the é thing? I know that it is supossed to work, but I've tried the Alt + 130 and Alt + 0233 things, and they don't work. I can do it using the bar @ the bottom, just an accuracy thing. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 16:34, 11 May 2008 (UTC) (also posted above)
::Do you have Num Lock on? Turn it on, then use the numbers on the number pad. At least, that's how my computer does it; it's a notebook, so the number pad is sort of hidden in the rest of the keyboard... --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Talk))]] 07:27, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

:::Ok, it works. Thanks. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 20:12, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

== [[Pokémon Platinum]] ==
[[{{ns:6}}:Platinum Version Cartridge Concept Fake.PNG|right|thumb|Pokémon Platinum DS cartridge Concept]]
To begin with: FINALLY!!!!!

but 2009 US release?... oh well, at least its coming. Yay! [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 22:01, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

:Here's a cartridge concept I came up with. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 01:26, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

== Hacked Pokémon ==

How to spot 'em? Reply if you know how. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 21:52, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
:It varies from case to case. Any Pokémon with a move it can't get through level-up, breeding, tutoring, TM/HM, purification, or any other way I forgot to mention is hacked. Same with abilities; a {{a|Wonder Guard}} {{p|Spiritomb}} is one of the most popular hacked Pokémon out there. And sometimes, a Pokémon is just so ridiculous, you can tell it's hacked. I'm looking at my brother's Pearl Version (shh, don't tell him I took it), and he got a lv. 100 [[alternate coloration|shiny]] {{p|Deoxys}} that once had the [[Pokérus]] and was apparently "met at level 0" off the GTS. I can't tell you if it's stats are hacked, since I don't know much about what their value would be with high EVs, but I think it's pretty clear this isn't a completely legitimate Pokémon. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Talk))]] 22:08, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

== Identifying Help ==

[[{{ns:6}}:Latias (TCG).jpg|right|thumb|Unidentified Latias TCG card]]
Could someone help me ID this card? I have a lot of cards from the same pack, including the matching Latios, but don't know where it came from. I'd like to make the page myself, but need to know what to make it as. [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 20:12, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

== Trades ==

Sorry. I've read it before, but I say to myself "oh, that's alright. I'll just come back and reply later", but I forget. I'll get back to you tomorrow too. If I don't, remind me. [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 01:27, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
==Colors==
[[wp:List of colors|List of colors]]. works for here too '''[[User:Pachirisulover12|PL]][[User talk:Pachirisulover12|12]]''' 18:23, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
:Gracias! [[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 18:28, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
::Ooooh awesome I never knew about that article. I used {{wp|Web colors|this one}}. [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 18:49, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

User talk:PhantomCX

2008-06-06T14:36:53Z

PhantomCX:

Articuno (Pokémon)

2008-05-28T11:54:45Z

PhantomCX:

{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Snorlax | next=Zapdos }}
{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Articuno |
jname=フリーザー |
tmname=Freezer |
image=144Articuno.png |
size=150 |
caption=Artwork from FR/LG |
ndex=144 |
jdex=235 |
hdex=299 |
typen=2 |
type1=Ice |
type2=Flying |
species=Freeze |
height-ftin=5′07″ |
height-m=1.7 |
weight-lbs=122.1 |
weight-kg=55.4 |
abilityn=1 |
ability1=Pressure |
ability2= |
egggroupn=0 |
egggroup1=No eggs |
egggroup2= |
hatchsteps=20,480 |
effortyield=3 SpD |
expyield=215 |
lv100exp=1,250,000 |
gender=none |
female=0 |
male=0 |
color=Blue |
catchrate=3 |
pokefordex=articuno |
generation=1 |
footnotes=}}
'''Articuno''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''フリーザー''' ''Freezer'') is an {{2t|Ice|Flying}}-type Pokémon. It's found in the [[Kanto]] region at [[Seafoam Island]]. Articuno appeared in the movie [[The Power of One]]. Like {{p|Moltres}} and {{p|Zapdos}}, in the film it was violent and destructive.

==Biology==
===Physiology===
Articuno takes the form of a large bird with predominantly blue plumage. Its coloring is darkest on its long streamer-like tail and head crest. Its head crest is fairly simple, consisting of three rhombus-shaped feathers on its forehead. Its body is a sky-blue, growing lighter on its chest and belly. Its most distinctive feature is its large wings, which look like they are made of ice. It has a small gray beak and similarly colored, thin legs. An Articuno in flight is a magnificent sight to behold.
====Gender differences====
Articuno is a genderless species.
====Special abilities====
When Articuno flaps its wings, it can chill the moisture in the air around it, making snow fall.

===Behavior===
Articuno, along with {{p|Zapdos}} and {{p|Moltres}} is one of the [[legendary birds]] of Kanto. They are poorly understood species, believed by many to be pure myth. According to legend, it appears before doomed travelers lost in icy regions. It is impossible to tell if these are valid sightings, or merely delusions of the dying. It is described as being spectacular in flight: with its long tail streaming behind it, and its wings shining like ice. It is said to cause snow to fall when it flies, and has the potential ability to create {{m|blizzard}}s.

===Habitat===
[[Image:Rare.gif|right|frame|[[List of Pokémon by habitat#Rare Pokémon|Rare Pokémon]]]]
Articuno lives in cold places, isolated usually mountains. An Articuno is known to roost inside the seafoam islands of Kanto. However, Articuno is an extremely rare (if not one-of-a-kind) Pokémon due to its "[[Legendary]]" status.

===Diet===
''Main article: [[Pokémon food]]''

==In the anime==
[[Image:Articuno anime.jpg|thumb|right|[[Factory Head Noland|Noland]] with an Articuno]]
Articuno first appeared in the [[The Power of One|second movie]]. [[Lawrence III]] attempted to collect Articuno and the two other [[Legendary Pokémon#Legendary Birds|Legendary Birds]] in his scheme to capture {{p|Lugia}}.

Another was seen in the episode ''[[EP189|Freeze Frame]]''. Travelers say that the Articuno watch over them on their journeys through the mountains of [[Johto]]. [[Nurse Joy]] suggested that many other Articuno probably have nests in other cold locations with high altitudes.

Also, the [[Frontier Brain]] [[Factory Head Noland|Noland]] uses one against challengers. This can be seen in the episode ''[[AG135|Numero Uno Articuno]]'' in his battle against {{Ash}}.

==In the manga==
In Pokémon Special, Articuno is shown to seal itself in a block of ice when it senses the presence of an enemy. It strongly dislikes confrontation.

==In the TCG==
{{main|Articuno (TCG)}}

==Other appearances==
===[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]===
When released from a [[Poké Ball]], Articuno will use a {{m|Blizzard}} attack that freezes any opponent that is caught in it for a few seconds.

====Trophy information====
Clouds gather, the barometer plunges, and fresh snow falls from the frigid air when this [[legendary Pokémon]] takes wing. Graceful and elegant, it boasts long tail feathers that flap in the wind and are lovely to behold. As would be expected, its combat moves are based on its cold nature; they include {{m|Ice Beam}} and {{m|Blizzard}}.

==Game data==
===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex
|type=ice
|gen=1
|redbluedex=A legendary bird Pokémon said to appear to doomed people who are lost in icy mountains.
|yellowdex=A legendary bird Pokémon. It freezes water that is contained in winter air and makes it snow.
|golddex=The magnificent seemingly translucent wings of this legendary bird Pokémon are said to be made of ice.
|stadiumdex=A legendary bird Pokémon with long and distinctive tail feathers. Said to appear if you are freezing on a snowy mountain.
|silverdex=One of the legendary bird Pokémon, it chills moisture in the atmosphere to create snow while flying.
|crystaldex=Legendary bird Pokémon. As it flies through the sky, it cools the air, causing snow to fall.
|stadium2dex=The magnificent, seemingly translucent wings of this legendary bird Pokémon are said to be made of ice.
|rubydex=Articuno is a legendary bird Pokémon that can control ice. The flapping of its wings chills the air. As a result, it is said that when this Pokémon flies, snow will fall.
|sapphiredex=Articuno is a legendary bird Pokémon that can control ice. The flapping of its wings chills the air. As a result, it is said that when this Pokémon flies, snow will fall.
|emeralddex=Articuno is a legendary bird Pokémon that can control ice. The flapping of its wings chills the air. As a result, it is said that when this Pokémon flies, snow will fall.
|firereddex=One of the legendary bird Pokémon. With its long tail trailing behind, its flying form is magnificent.
|leafgreendex=A legendary bird Pokémon that is said to appear to doomed people who are lost in icy mountains.
|diamonddex=A legendary bird Pokémon. It can create {{M|blizzard}}s by freezing moisture in the air.
|pearldex=A legendary bird Pokémon. It can create blizzards by freezing moisture in the air.
|}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability|
type=ice |
gen=1 |
rbrarity=One |
rbarea=[[Seafoam Islands]] |
yrarity=One |
yarea=[[Seafoam Islands]] |
frlgrarity=One |
frlgarea=[[Seafoam Islands]] |
xdrarity=One |
xdarea=[[Citadark Isle]] ([[Shadow Pokémon|Shadow]]) |
dprarity=None |
dparea=[[Pal Park]] |
palarea=Mountain |
}}
====In side games====

{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{ice color}};"
! Game
! Location
|-
| [[Pokémon Snap]]
| [[Pokémon Island Cave|Cave]]
|-
| [[Pokémon Trozei!]]
| Random Agent Cards Mr. Who's Den
|-
| [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon]]
| [[Frosty Grotto]] (5F)
|-
| [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 2]]
| [[Mt. Avalanche]] (Summit)
|}

===Base stats===
{{BaseStats with RBY|
HP=90 |
Attack=85 |
Defense=100 |
SpAtk=95 |
SpDef=125 |
Special=125 |
Speed=85 }}

===Type effectiveness===
{{DP Type effectiveness|
Normal= 100 |
Flying= 100 |
Fighting=100 |
Ground= 0 |
Rock= 400 |
Bug= 50 |
Poison= 100 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 200 |

Fire= 200 |
Water= 100 |
Grass= 50 |
Electric=200 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 100 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 }}

Note: If Articuno is given the Iron Ball, the effectiveness of {{t|Ground}}-type attacks becomes 1×.

===Learnset===
{{Learnset intro|Articuno}}
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{| align="center"
|-
| valign="top" |
{| border=1 align="center" style="background: #f8f8f8; border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{ice color}};"
! colspan="3" | [[Generation I]]
|- style="background: #{{flying color}};"
! [[Level]]
! [[Move]]
! [[Type]]
|-
| rowspan="2" | Start || '''{{M|Peck}}''' || {{ic|Flying}}
|-
| '''{{M|Ice Beam}}''' || {{ic|Ice}}
|-
| 51 || '''{{M|Blizzard}}''' || {{ic|ice}}
|-
| 55 || {{M|Agility}} || {{ic|Psychic}}
|-
| 60 || {{M|Mist}} || {{ic|ice}}
|}

| valign="top" |
{| border=1 align="center" style="background: #f8f8f8; border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{ice color}};"
! colspan="3" | [[Generation II]]
|- style="background: #{{flying color}};"
! [[Level]]
! [[Move]]
! [[Type]]
|-
| rowspan="2" | Start || '''{{M|Gust}}''' || {{ic|Flying}}
|-
| '''{{M|Powder Snow}}''' || {{ic|Ice}}
|-
| 13 || {{M|Mist}} || {{ic|ice}}
|-
| 25 || {{M|Agility}} || {{ic|Psychic}}
|-
| 37 || {{M|Mind Reader}} || {{ic|normal}}
|-
| 49 || '''{{m|Ice Beam}}''' || {{ic|ice}}
|-
| 61 || {{M|Reflect}} || {{ic|Psychic}}
|-
| 73 || '''{{M|Blizzard}}''' || {{ic|ice}}
|}

| valign="top" |
{| border=1 align="center" style="background: #f8f8f8; border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{ice color}};"
! colspan="3" | [[Generation III]]
|- style="background: #{{flying color}};"
! [[Level]]
! [[Move]]
! [[Type]]
|-
| rowspan="2" | Start || '''{{M|Gust}}''' || {{ic|Flying}}
|-
| '''{{M|Powder Snow}}''' || {{ic|Ice}}
|-
| 13 || {{M|Mist}} || {{ic|ice}}
|-
| 25 || {{M|Agility}} || {{ic|Psychic}}
|-
| 37 || {{M|Mind Reader}} || {{ic|normal}}
|-
| 49 || '''{{m|Ice Beam}}''' || {{ic|ice}}
|-
| 61 || {{M|Reflect}} || {{ic|Psychic}}
|-
| 73 || '''{{M|Blizzard}}''' || {{ic|ice}}
|-
| 85 || {{M|Sheer Cold}} || {{ic|Ice}}
|}

| valign="top" |
{| border=1 align="center" style="background: #f8f8f8; border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{ice color}};"
! colspan="4" | [[Generation IV]]
|- style="background: #{{flying color}};"
! [[Level]]
! [[Move]]
! [[Type]]
! [[Damage category|Cat.]]
|-
| rowspan="2" | Start || '''{{M|Gust}}''' || {{ic|Flying}} || {{ic|Special}}
|-
| '''{{M|Powder Snow}}''' || {{ic|Ice}} || {{ic|Special}}
|-
| 8 || {{M|Mist}} || {{ic|ice}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| 15 || '''{{M|Ice Shard}}''' || {{ic|Ice}} || {{ic|Physical}}
|-
| 22 || {{M|Mind Reader}} || {{ic|normal}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| 29 || {{M|AncientPower}} || {{ic|Rock}} || {{ic|Special}}
|-
| 36 || {{M|Agility}} || {{ic|Psychic}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| 43 || '''{{m|Ice Beam}}''' || {{ic|ice}} || {{ic|Special}}
|-
| 50 || {{M|Reflect}} || {{ic|Psychic}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| 57 || {{M|Roost}} || {{ic|Flying}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| 64 || {{M|Tailwind}} || {{ic|Flying}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| 71 || '''{{M|Blizzard}}''' || {{ic|ice}} || {{ic|Special}}
|-
| 78 || {{M|Sheer Cold}} || {{ic|Ice}} || {{ic|Special}}
|-
| 85 || {{M|Hail}} || {{ic|ice}} || {{ic|Status}}
|}
|}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{| align="center"
|-
| valign="top" |
{| border=1 align="center" style="background: #f8f8f8; border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{ice color}};"
! colspan="3" | [[Generation I]]
|- style="background: #{{flying color}};"
! [[TM|#]]
! [[Move]]
! [[Type]]
|-
| TM02 || {{m|Razor Wind}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM04 || {{m|Whirlwind}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM06 || {{m|Toxic}} || {{ic|Poison}}
|-
| TM09 || {{m|Take Down}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM10 || {{m|Double-Edge}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM11 || {{m|BubbleBeam}} || {{ic|Water}}
|-
| TM12 || {{m|Water Gun}} || {{ic|Water}}
|-
| TM13 || '''{{m|Ice Beam}}''' || {{ic|Ice}}
|-
| TM14 || '''{{m|Blizzard}}''' || {{ic|Ice}}
|-
| TM15 || {{m|Hyper Beam}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM20 || {{m|Rage}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM31 || {{m|Mimic}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM32 || {{m|Double Team}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM33 || {{m|Reflect}} || {{ic|Psychic}}
|-
| TM34 || {{m|Bide}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM39 || {{m|Swift}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM43 || '''{{m|Sky Attack}}''' || {{ic|Flying}}
|-
| TM44 || {{m|Rest}} || {{ic|Psychic}}
|-
| TM50 || {{m|Substitute}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| HM02 || '''{{m|Fly}}''' || {{ic|Flying}}
|}

| valign="top" |
{| border=1 align="center" style="background: #f8f8f8; border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{ice color}};"
! colspan="3" | [[Generation II]]
|- style="background: #{{flying color}};"
! [[TM|#]]
! [[Move]]
! [[Type]]
|-
| TM03 || {{m|Curse}} || {{ic|Unknown}}
|-
| TM05 || {{m|Roar}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM06 || {{m|Toxic}} || {{ic|Poison}}
|-
| TM08 || {{m|Rock Smash}} || {{ic|Fighting}}
|-
| TM10 || {{m|Hidden Power}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM11 || {{m|Sunny Day}} || {{ic|Fire}}
|-
| TM13 || {{m|Snore}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM14 || '''{{m|Blizzard}}''' || {{ic|Ice}}
|-
| TM15 || {{m|Hyper Beam}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM16 || '''{{m|Icy Wind}}''' || {{ic|Ice}}
|-
| TM17 || {{m|Protect}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM18 || {{m|Rain Dance}} || {{ic|Water}}
|-
| TM20 || {{m|Endure}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM21 || {{m|Frustration}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM27 || {{m|Return}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM31 || {{m|Mud-Slap}} || {{ic|Ground}}
|-
| TM32 || {{m|Double Team}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM34 || {{m|Swagger}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM35 || {{m|Sleep Talk}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM37 || {{m|Sandstorm}} || {{ic|Rock}}
|-
| TM39 || {{m|Swift}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM43 || {{m|Detect}} || {{ic|Fighting}}
|-
| TM44 || {{m|Rest}} || {{ic|Psychic}}
|-
| TM47 || {{m|Steel Wing}} || {{ic|Steel}}
|-
| HM02 || '''{{m|Fly}}''' || {{ic|Flying}}
|}

| valign="top" |
{| border=1 align="center" style="background: #f8f8f8; border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{ice color}};"
! colspan="3" | [[Generation III]]
|- style="background: #{{flying color}};"
! [[TM|#]]
! [[Move]]
! [[Type]]
|-
| TM03 || {{m|Water Pulse}} || {{ic|Water}}
|-
| TM05 || {{m|Roar}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM06 || {{m|Toxic}} || {{ic|Poison}}
|-
| TM07 || {{m|Hail}} || {{ic|Ice}}
|-
| TM10 || {{m|Hidden Power}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM11 || {{m|Sunny Day}} || {{ic|Fire}}
|-
| TM13 || '''{{m|Ice Beam}}''' || {{ic|Ice}}
|-
| TM14 || '''{{m|Blizzard}}''' || {{ic|Ice}}
|-
| TM15 || {{m|Hyper Beam}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM17 || {{m|Protect}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM18 || {{m|Rain Dance}} || {{ic|Water}}
|-
| TM21 || {{m|Frustration}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM27 || {{m|Return}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM32 || {{m|Double Team}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM33 || {{m|Reflect}} || {{ic|Psychic}}
|-
| TM37 || {{m|Sandstorm}} || {{ic|Rock}}
|-
| TM40 || '''{{m|Aerial Ace}}''' || {{ic|Flying}}
|-
| TM42 || {{m|Facade}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM43 || {{m|Secret Power}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM44 || {{m|Rest}} || {{ic|Psychic}}
|-
| TM47 || {{m|Steel Wing}} || {{ic|Steel}}
|-
| HM02 || '''{{m|Fly}}''' || {{ic|Flying}}
|-
| HM06 || {{m|Rock Smash}} || {{ic|Fighting}}
|}

| valign="top" |
{| border=1 align="center" style="background: #f8f8f8; border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{ice color}};"
! colspan="4" | [[Generation IV]]
|- style="background: #{{flying color}};"
! [[TM|#]]
! [[Move]]
! [[Type]]
! [[Damage category|Cat.]]
|-
| TM03 || {{m|Water Pulse}} || {{ic|Water}} || {{ic|Special}}
|-
| TM05 || {{m|Roar}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| TM06 || {{m|Toxic}} || {{ic|Poison}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| TM07 || {{m|Hail}} || {{ic|Ice}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| TM10 || {{m|Hidden Power}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Special}}
|-
| TM11 || {{m|Sunny Day}} || {{ic|Fire}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| TM13 || '''{{m|Ice Beam}}''' || {{ic|Ice}} || {{ic|Special}}
|-
| TM14 || '''{{m|Blizzard}}''' || {{ic|Ice}} || {{ic|Special}}
|-
| TM15 || {{m|Hyper Beam}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Special}}
|-
| TM17 || {{m|Protect}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| TM18 || {{m|Rain Dance}} || {{ic|Water}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| TM21 || {{m|Frustration}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Physical}}
|-
| TM27 || {{m|Return}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Physical}}
|-
| TM32 || {{m|Double Team}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| TM33 || {{m|Reflect}} || {{ic|Psychic}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| TM37 || {{m|Sandstorm}} || {{ic|Rock}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| TM40 || '''{{m|Aerial Ace}}''' || {{ic|Flying}} || {{ic|Physical}}
|-
| TM42 || {{m|Facade}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Physical}}
|-
| TM43 || {{m|Secret Power}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Physical}}
|-
| TM44 || {{m|Rest}} || {{ic|Psychic}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| TM47 || {{m|Steel Wing}} || {{ic|Steel}} || {{ic|Physical}}
|-
| TM51 || {{m|Roost}} || {{ic|Flying}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| TM58 || {{m|Endure}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| TM68 || {{m|Giga Impact}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Physical}}
|-
| TM72 || '''{{m|Avalanche}}''' || {{ic|Ice}} || {{ic|Physical}}
|-
| TM82 || {{m|Sleep Talk}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| TM83 || {{m|Natural Gift}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Physical}}
|-
| TM87 || {{m|Swagger}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| TM88 || '''{{m|Pluck}}''' || {{ic|Flying}} || {{ic|Physical}}
|-
| TM89 || {{m|U-turn}} || {{ic|Bug}} || {{ic|Physical}}
|-
| TM90 || {{m|Substitute}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| HM02 || '''{{m|Fly}}''' || {{ic|Flying}} || {{ic|Physical}}
|-
| HM05 || {{m|Defog}} || {{ic|Flying}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| HM06 || {{m|Rock Smash}} || {{ic|Fighting}} || {{ic|Physical}}
|}
|}

====By [[breeding]]====
As a Legendary Pokémon, Articuno cannot breed.
====By tutoring====
====Special moves====
In [[Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness]], Articuno knows {{m|Shadow Chill}}, {{m|Shadow Rush}}, {{m|Shadow Shed}} and {{m|Shadow Sky}} as a [[Shadow Pokémon]], and learns {{m|Haze}}, {{m|Heal Bell}} and {{m|Extrasensory}} after being [[Purification|purified]].

===Side game data===

{{Side game|
type=ice |
ndex=144 |
Pincatch=yes |
Trozei=yes |
rarity=Rare |
Dungeon=yes |
body=4 |
rate=30% |
area=Legendary Island |
P1= I represent the power of ice! I always fight at full power! |
P2= My health is down by half. I must be careful. |
P3= I feel faint... My coldness is weakening... |
PL= Leveled up! My coldness increased! |
Partner=no |
Ranger=no |
}}

===Evolution===
{| border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="margin: auto;"
|-
|
{{EvoChart Box|
text=Basic |
image=144.png |
name=Articuno }}
|}

===Sprites===
{{Sprite|
type=ice|
gen=1|
gender=none|
ndex=144|
name=Articuno|
}}

==Trivia==
* In [[Pokémon Red and Blue Versions|Pokémon Red, Blue]], {{v2|Yellow}}, [[Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen Versions|FireRed, and LeafGreen]] versions, there are binoculars in the guardhouse separating the city from {{rt|15}}, through which Articuno can be seen flying toward the sea. It is still visible in the binoculars if it is captured or defeated in the [[Seafoam Islands]].
* In every game before the fourth generation, Articuno's legs were grey.
* Articuno is considered "cheapskate" by some fans because of its ability to learn both {{m|Sheer Cold}}, a [[One-hit knockout move]], and {{m|Mind Reader}}, which makes the next move used 100% accurate.
* In [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 2]], it is the only one in its trio that cannot be encountered unless the player enters an event password.
* Although Legendaries are said to be incapable of breeding, [[Pokémon Snap]] shows Articuno and the other birds are born from eggs, which means they were bred in some way.
* Articuno is the first legendary Pokémon in the [[National Pokédex]].
===Origin===
This [[Pokémon]]'s appearance is based on the Arabic Anka myth, which is that of a giant arctic bird. The bird is similar to the {{wp|phoenix}} as it is known to resurrect itself and appear to doomed people in the mountains. Also, its long tail and small body may be reference to the rare bird, the {{wp|quetzal}}. Its white, feathery chest makes it resemblant to the Norse god Odin.
====Name origin====
Articuno's name is a combination of the words ''arctic'' and ''uno'', the {{wp|Spanish language|Spanish}} word for one, indicating that it is the first in the series of [[Kanto]] [[legendary birds]]. Its Japanese name is simply ''Freezer'', one who freezes.

==In other languages==
*[[List of German Pokémon names|German]]: Arktos
*[[List of French Pokémon names|French]]: Artikodin - From ''arctique'' meaning arctic and ''Odin'', the Norse God.
*[[List of Korean Pokémon names|Korean]]: 프리져 ''Peurijyeo''

==Related Articles==
* [[Legendary birds]]

==External links==
* [[wp:Articuno|Article on Wikipedia]]
*[http://fan.dark-ocean.net/articuno/ Like Ice], the fanlisting for Articuno at [[wp:The Anime Fanlistings Network|The Anime Fanlistings Network]]

{{Legendary Pokémon}}

{{Smash Bros.}}
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{{Project Pokédex notice}}
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[[Category:Legendary Pokémon]]
[[Category:Legendary Trio Pokémon]]
[[Category:Legendary Pokémon obtainable before the Elite Four]]
[[Category:Kanto Legendary Pokémon]]
[[Category:Genderless Pokémon]]

[[de:Arktos]]
[[fr:Artikodin]]
[[ja:フリーザー]]
[[pt:Articuno (pokémon)]]

Weepinbell (Pokémon)

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{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Bellsprout | next=Victreebel }}
{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Weepinbell |
jname=ウツドン |
tmname=Utsudon |
image=070Weepinbell.png |
caption=Artwork from FR/LG |
ndex=070 |
jdex=065 |
hdex=251 |
fdex=005 |
typen=2 |
type1=Grass |
type2=Poison |
species=Flycatcher |
height-ftin=3′03″ |
height-m=1.0 |
weight-lbs=14.1 |
weight-kg=6.4 |
abilityn=1 |
ability1=Chlorophyll |
ability2= |
egggroupn=1 |
egggroup1=Plant |
egggroup2= |
hatchsteps=5,120 |
effortyield=2 Atk |
expyield=151 |
lv100exp=1,059,860 |
gender=both |
female=50 |
male=50 |
color=Green |
catchrate=120 |
pokefordex=weepinbell |
generation=1 |
footnotes=}}
'''Weepinbell''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''ウツドン''' ''Utsudon'') is a {{2t|Grass|Poison}}-type Pokémon.

==Biology==
===Physiology===
Weepinbell has a yellow, bell-shaped body. It has green leafy appendages and a brown hook on top of its head.
====Gender differences====
None.

====Special abilities====

===Behavior===
===Habitat===
[[Image:Forest.gif|left|frame|[[List of Pokémon by habitat#Forest Pokémon|Forest Pokémon]]]]
Weepinbell live in forests, as well as tropical jungles and swamps where the ground is rich in nutrients. They can also occasionally be found in caves, near sources of underground water.

===Diet===
''Main article: [[Pokémon food]]''

Weepinbell is less of a picky eater than its previous form, as it will attempt to eat anything that moves.

==In the anime==

[[Image:Jamesweep2.PNG|thumb|right|Weepinbell in the Anime.]]
Weepinbell first appeared in ''[[EP009|The School of Hard Knocks]]''. It was owned by {{ka|Joe}}.

A Weepinbell was also used by [[Erika]] against {{Ash}} during the [[Celadon City]] [[Gym]] [[Pokémon battle|battle]].

[[James]] had two separate Weepinbell, both of which evolved into {{TP|James|Victreebel}}.

Weepinbell are used in the [[Celadon]] and [[Bonitaville]] [[Contest]]s.

==In the manga==

==In the TCG==
{{main|Weepinbell (TCG)}}

==Game data==
===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex
|type=grass
|gen=1
|redbluedex=It spits out {{M|PoisonPowder}} to immobilize the enemy and then finishes it with a spray of {{M|Acid}}.
|yellowdex=When hungry, it swallows anything that moves. Its hapless prey is melted inside by strong acids.
|stadiumdex=Armed with razor-sharp leaves, it uses toxic pollen to immobilize its enemy and melts the helpless foe with {{M|acid}}.
|golddex=Even though it is filled with acid, it does not melt because it also oozes a neutralizing fluid.
|silverdex=If its prey is bigger than its mouth, it slices up the victim with sharp leaves, then eats every morsel.
|crystaldex=When it's hungry, it swings its razor-sharp leaves, slicing up any unlucky object nearby for food.
|stadium2dex=Even though it is filled with acid, it does not melt because it also oozes a neutralizing fluid.
|rubydex=Weepinbell has a large hook on its rear end. At night, the Pokémon hooks on to a tree branch and goes to sleep. If it moves around in its sleep, it may wake up to find itself on the ground.
|sapphiredex=Weepinbell has a large hook on its rear end. At night, the Pokémon hooks on to a tree branch and goes to sleep. If it moves around in its sleep, it may wake up to find itself on the ground.
|emeralddex=At night, a Weepinbell hangs on to a tree branch with its hooked rear and sleeps. If it moves around in its sleep, it may wake up to find itself on the ground.
|firereddex=The leafy parts act as cutters for slashing foes. It spits a fluid that dissolves everything.
|leafgreendex=It spits out {{M|Poisonpowder}} to immobilize the enemy and then finishes it with a spray of {{M|Acid}}.
|diamonddex=A Pokémon that appears to be a plant. It captures unwary prey by dousing them with a toxic powder.
|pearldex=A Pokémon that appears to be a plant. It captures unwary prey by dousing them with a toxic powder.
|}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability|
type=Grass |
gen=1 |
rbrarity=Rare |
rbarea=[[Route]]s {{rtn|12}}, {{rtn|13}}, {{rtn|14}}, and {{rtn|15}} (Blue only) |
yrarity=Rare |
yarea=[[Route]]s {{rtn|12}}, {{rtn|13}}, {{rtn|14}}, {{rtn|15}}, [[Cerulean Cave]] |
gsrarity=Rare |
gsarea=[[Route]]s {{rtn|5}}, {{rtn|6}}, {{rtn|24}}, and {{rtn|25}} |
crarity=Rare |
carea=[[Route]]s {{rtn|5}}, {{rtn|6}}, {{rtn|24}}, and {{rtn|25}} |
frlgrarity=Uncommon |
frlgarea=[[Route]]s {{rtn|12}}, {{rtn|13}}, {{rtn|14}}, and {{rtn|15}}, [[Berry Forest]], [[Bond Bridge]], [[Cape Brink]], [[Water Path]] |
xdrarity=One |
xdarea=[[Cipher Key Lair]] ([[Shadow Pokémon|Shadow]]) |
dprarity=Common |
dparea=[[Route]]s {{rtn|224}}, {{rtn|229}}, and {{rtn|230}} |
palarea=Forest |
}}

====In side games====

{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{grass color}};"
! Game
! Location
|-
| [[Pokémon Snap]]
| [[Pokémon Island Cave|Cave]]
|-
| [[Pokémon Trozei]]
| Secret Storage 2 Mr. Who's Den
|-
| [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon]]
| Evolve from {{p|Bellsprout}}
|-
| [[Pokémon Ranger]]
| [[Lyra Forest]]
|}

===Base stats===
{{BaseStats with RBY|
HP=65 |
Attack=90 |
Defense=50 |
SpAtk=85 |
SpDef=45 |
Special=85 |
Speed=55 }}

===Type effectiveness===
{{DP Type effectiveness|
Normal= 100 |
Flying= 200 |
Fighting= 50 |
Ground= 100 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 100 |
Poison= 100 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 200 |
Water= 50 |
Grass= 25 |
Electric= 50 |
Psychic= 200 |
Ice= 200 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 }}

In [[Generation I]], the effectiveness of {{T|Bug}}-type moves is 400.

===Learnset===
{{evolved learnset intro|Weepinbell}}

====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{| align="center"
|-
| valign="top" |
{| border="1" style="background: #f8f8f8; border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{grass color}};"
! colspan="3" | [[Generation I]]
|- style="background: #{{poison color}};"
! [[Level]]
! [[Move]]
! [[Type]]
|-
| rowspan="5" | Previous || '''{{M|Vine Whip}}''' || {{ic|grass}}
|-
| {{M|Growth}} || {{ic|normal}}
|-
| {{M|Wrap}} || {{ic|normal}}
|-
| {{M|Sleep Powder}} || {{ic|grass}}
|-
| {{M|Poisonpowder}} || {{ic|poison}}
|-
| 23 || {{M|Stun Spore}} || {{ic|grass}}
|-
| 29 || '''{{M|Acid}}''' || {{ic|poison}}
|-
| 38 || '''{{M|Razor Leaf}}''' || {{ic|Grass}}
|-
| 49 || {{M|Slam}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|}

| valign="top" |
{| border="1" style="background: #f8f8f8; border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{grass color}};"
! colspan="3" | [[Generation II]]
|- style="background: #{{poison color}};"
! [[Level]]
! [[Move]]
! [[Type]]
|-
| rowspan="6" | Previous || '''{{M|Vine Whip}}''' || {{ic|grass}}
|-
| {{M|Growth}} || {{ic|normal}}
|-
| {{M|Wrap}} || {{ic|normal}}
|-
| {{M|Sleep Powder}} || {{ic|grass}}
|-
| {{M|Poisonpowder}} || {{ic|poison}}
|-
| {{M|Stun Spore}} || {{ic|grass}}
|-
| 24 || '''{{M|Acid}}''' || {{ic|poison}}
|-
| 33 || {{M|Sweet Scent}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| 42 || '''{{M|Razor Leaf}}''' || {{ic|Grass}}
|-
| 54 || {{M|Slam}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|}

| valign="top" |
{| border="1" style="background: #f8f8f8; border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{grass color}};"
! colspan="3" | [[Generation III]]
|- style="background: #{{poison color}};"
! [[Level]]
! [[Move]]
! [[Type]]
|-
| rowspan="6" | Previous || '''{{M|Vine Whip}}''' || {{ic|grass}}
|-
| {{M|Growth}} || {{ic|normal}}
|-
| {{M|Wrap}} || {{ic|normal}}
|-
| {{M|Sleep Powder}} || {{ic|grass}}
|-
| {{M|Poisonpowder}} || {{ic|poison}}
|-
| {{M|Stun Spore}} || {{ic|grass}}
|-
| 24 || '''{{M|Acid}}''' || {{ic|poison}}
|-
| 33 || {{M|Sweet Scent}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| 42 || '''{{M|Razor Leaf}}''' || {{ic|Grass}}
|-
| 54 || {{M|Slam}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|}

| valign="top" |
{| border="1" style="background: #f8f8f8; border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{grass color}};"
! colspan="4" | [[Generation IV]]
|- style="background: #{{poison color}};"
! [[Level]]
! [[Move]]
! [[Type]]
! [[Damage category|Cat.]]
|-
| rowspan="6" | Previous || '''{{M|Vine Whip}}''' || {{ic|grass}} || {{ic|Physical}}
|-
| {{M|Growth}} || {{ic|normal}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| {{M|Wrap}} || {{ic|normal}} || {{ic|Physical}}
|-
| {{M|Sleep Powder}} || {{ic|grass}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| {{M|Poisonpowder}} || {{ic|poison}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| {{M|Stun Spore}} || {{ic|grass}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| 23 || '''{{M|Acid}}''' || {{ic|poison}} || {{ic|Special}}
|-
| 27 || {{m|Knock Off}} || {{ic|Dark}} || {{ic|Physical}}
|-
| 29 || {{M|Sweet Scent}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| 36 || {{M|Gastro Acid}} || {{ic|Poison}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| 39 || '''{{M|Razor Leaf}}''' || {{ic|Grass}} || {{ic|Physical}}
|-
| 41 || {{M|Slam}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Physical}}
|-
| 47 || {{M|Wring Out}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Special}}
|}
|}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{| align="center"
|-
| valign="top" |
{| border="1" style="background: #f8f8f8; border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{grass color}};"
! colspan="3" | [[Generation I]]
|- style="background: #{{poison color}};"
! [[TM|#]]
! [[Move]]
! [[Type]]
|-
| TM03 || {{M|Swords Dance}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM06 || {{m|Toxic}} || {{ic|Poison}}
|-
| TM09 || {{m|Take Down}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM10 || {{m|Double-Edge}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM20 || {{m|Rage}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM21 || '''{{M|Mega Drain}}''' || {{ic|Grass}}
|-
| TM22 || '''{{m|SolarBeam}}''' || {{ic|Grass}}
|-
| TM31 || {{m|Mimic}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM32 || {{m|Double Team}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM33 || {{M|Reflect}} || {{ic|Psychic}}
|-
| TM34 || {{m|Bide}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM44 || {{M|Rest}} || {{ic|Psychic}}
|-
| TM50 || {{M|Substitute}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| HM01 || {{M|Cut}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|}

| valign="top" |
{| border="1" style="background: #f8f8f8; border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{grass color}};"
! colspan="3" | [[Generation II]]
|- style="background: #{{poison color}};"
! [[TM|#]]
! [[Move]]
! [[Type]]
|-
| TM03 || {{m|Curse}} || {{ic|Unknown}}
|-
| TM06 || {{m|Toxic}} || {{ic|poison}}
|-
| TM10 || {{m|Hidden Power}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM11 || {{M|Sunny Day}} || {{ic|fire}}
|-
| TM12 || {{M|Sweet Scent}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM13 || {{M|Snore}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM17 || {{m|Protect}} ||{{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM19 || '''{{M|Giga Drain}}''' || {{ic|grass}}
|-
| TM20 || {{m|Endure}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM21 || {{m|Frustration}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM22 || '''{{m|SolarBeam}}''' || {{ic|grass}}
|-
| TM27 || {{m|Return}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM32 || {{m|Double Team}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM34 || {{M|Swagger}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM35 || {{M|Sleep Talk}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM36 || '''{{M|Sludge Bomb}}''' ||{{ic|poison}}
|-
| TM44 || {{M|Rest}} || {{ic|psychic}}
|-
| TM45 || {{M|Attract}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| HM01 || {{M|Cut}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| HM05 || {{M|Flash}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|}

| valign="top" |
{| border="1" style="background: #f8f8f8; border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{grass color}};"
! colspan="3" | [[Generation III]]
|- style="background: #{{poison color}};"
! [[TM|#]]
! [[Move]]
! [[Type]]
|-
| TM06 || {{m|Toxic}} || {{ic|poison}}
|-
| TM09 || '''{{M|Bullet Seed}}''' || {{ic|Grass}}
|-
| TM10 || {{m|Hidden Power}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM11 || {{M|Sunny Day}} || {{ic|fire}}
|-
| TM17 || {{m|Protect}} ||{{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM19 || '''{{M|Giga Drain}}''' || {{ic|grass}}
|-
| TM21 || {{m|Frustration}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM22 || '''{{m|SolarBeam}}''' || {{ic|grass}}
|-
| TM27 || {{m|Return}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM32 || {{m|Double Team}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM36 || '''{{M|Sludge Bomb}}''' ||{{ic|poison}}
|-
| TM34 || {{M|Facade}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM35 || {{M|Secret Power}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM44 || {{M|Rest}} || {{ic|psychic}}
|-
| TM45 || {{M|Attract}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| TM46 || {{M|Thief}} || {{ic|dark}}
|-
| HM01 || {{M|Cut}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| HM05 || {{M|Flash}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|}

| valign="top" |
{| border="1" style="background: #f8f8f8; border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{grass color}};"
! colspan="4" | [[Generation IV]]
|- style="background: #{{poison color}};"
! [[TM|#]]
! [[Move]]
! [[Type]]
! [[Damage category|Cat.]]
|-
| TM06 || {{m|Toxic}} || {{ic|poison}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| TM09 || '''{{M|Bullet Seed}}''' || {{ic|Grass}} || {{ic|Special}}
|-
| TM10 || {{m|Hidden Power}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Special}}
|-
| TM11 || {{M|Sunny Day}} || {{ic|fire}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| TM17 || {{m|Protect}} ||{{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| TM19 || '''{{M|Giga Drain}}''' || {{ic|grass}} || {{ic|Special}}
|-
| TM21 || {{m|Frustration}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Physical}}
|-
| TM22 || '''{{m|SolarBeam}}''' || {{ic|grass}} || {{ic|Special}}
|-
| TM27 || {{m|Return}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Physical}}
|-
| TM32 || {{m|Double Team}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| TM36 || '''{{M|Sludge Bomb}}''' ||{{ic|poison}} || {{ic|Special}}
|-
| TM34 || {{M|Facade}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Physical}}
|-
| TM35 || {{M|Secret Power}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Physical}}
|-
| TM44 || {{M|Rest}} || {{ic|psychic}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| TM45 || {{M|Attract}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| TM46 || {{M|Thief}} || {{ic|dark}} || {{ic|Physical}}
|-
| TM53 || '''{{M|Energy Ball}}''' || {{ic|Grass}} || {{ic|Special}}
|-
| TM58 || {{M|Endure}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| TM70 || {{M|Flash}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| TM75 || {{M|Swords Dance}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| TM78 || {{M|Captivate}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| TM82 || {{M|Sleep Talk}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| TM83 || {{M|Natural Gift}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Physical}}
|-
| TM86 || '''{{M|Grass Knot}} || {{ic|Grass}} || {{ic|Special}}
|-
| TM87 || {{M|Swagger}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| TM90 || {{M|Substitute}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| HM01 || {{M|Cut}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Physical}}
|}
|}

====Special moves====
In [[Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness]], Weepinbell knows {{m|Shadow Hold}} and {{m|Shadow Rave}} as a [[Shadow Pokémon]], and learns {{m|Morning Sun}} after being [[Purification|purified]].

===Side game data===

{{Side game|
type=grass |
ndex=070 |
Pinevo=yes |
Trozei=yes |
rarity=Rare |
Dungeon=yes |
body=1 |
rate=-19% |
area=Jungle |
P1= I can melt anything with the fluid in my mouth! |
P2= Watch out--my health is down to half. |
P3= I can't... My mouth has dried... |
PL= There we go! I leveled up! |
Partner=no |
Ranger=yes |
typeG= Grass |
typeA= Poison |
field= None |
loop=6 |
MinEXP=42 |
MaxEXP=56 |
browser= Weepinbell swallows unwary people and spits them back from where they came. |
}}

===Evolution===
{| border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="margin: auto;"
|-
| rowspan="5" |
{{EvoChart Box|
text=Basic |
image=069.png |
name=Bellsprout }}
|
{{EvoChart Box|
text=Level 21 |
image=070.png |
name=Weepinbell }}
|
{{EvoChart Box|
text=Leaf Stone |
image=071.png |
name=Victreebel }}
|}

===Sprites===
{{Sprite|
type=grass|
gen=1|
gender=none|
ndex=070|
name=Weepinbell|
}}

==Trivia==
===Origin===
Weepinbell and the others in its evolutionary line may be based upon carnivorous {{wp|pitcher plant}}s.
====Name origin====
Weepinbell's name seems to be be a combination of ''bell'', referring to its bell-like shape, and ''weeping''. A weeping plant is one that droops. Its Japanese name is based on 靫葛 ''utsubokazura'', or "pitcher plant".
==In other languages==
*[[List of German Pokémon names|German]]: Ultrigaria
*[[List of French Pokémon names|French]]: Boustiflor - ''Boustifaille'' means grub, and ''flor'' comes from floral, which has the same meaning as in English.
*[[List of Korean Pokémon names|Korean]]: 우츠동 ''Ucheudong''
*[[List of Chinese Pokémon names|Chinese (Taiwan and Hong Kong)]]: 口呆花

==External links==
* [[wp:Weepinbell|Article on Wikipedia]]

{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Bellsprout | next=Victreebel }}
{{Project Pokédex notice}}
[[de:Ultrigaria]]
[[Category:Pokémon that evolve by evolutionary stone]]
[[Category:Pokémon that evolve using Leaf Stone]]

[[Category:Pokémon that are part of a three-stage evolutionary line]]

[[fr:Boustiflor]]
[[ja:ウツドン]]
[[pt:Weepinbell (pokémon)]]

Talk:Kyle (Sinnoh)

2008-05-17T10:19:03Z

PhantomCX:

There was link in Red so I just thought "Start a Stub" - if we didn't want it doing then why have a red link?? [[User:PhantomCX|PhantomCX]] 14:18, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
:Then make sure you know what gender Kaitō is, and ADD CATEGORIES. And say more about him. and please begin it like
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'''Kaitō''' is a recurring character who first appeared in blahblahblah...
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•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|P]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|M]][[:Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|102]]''' 14:20, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
:Before we go deleting it, let me try to fix it up a bit. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 18:31, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks - that was what I was sort of hopping some one could do - I live in the UK so this hasn't been aired yet - i was just going by what info i could find on here as a start [[User:PhantomCX|PhantomCX]] 10:19, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

User talk:Theininen

2008-05-17T10:16:48Z

PhantomCX:

Talk:Kyle (Sinnoh)

2008-05-16T14:18:53Z

PhantomCX: New page: There was link in Red so I just thought "Start a Stub" - if we didn't want it doing then why have a red link?? ~~~~

There was link in Red so I just thought "Start a Stub" - if we didn't want it doing then why have a red link?? [[User:PhantomCX|PhantomCX]] 14:18, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Kyle (Sinnoh)

2008-05-16T13:59:56Z

PhantomCX: New page: Kaitō is a Pokémon co-ordinator that appeared in The Wallace Cup. She finished in the top four.

Kaitō is a Pokémon co-ordinator that appeared in The [[Wallace Cup]]. She finished in the top four.

User talk:Theininen

2008-05-16T07:22:45Z

PhantomCX:

Talk:Resort Area

2008-05-14T15:13:01Z

PhantomCX:

Hey...

For the Ribbon Syndacate.

There's the Massage People there, right? Well, they say different things when you massage your Pokémon. I get either dissolved diamonds in oils, or foam containing pearl extract. Does this affect happiness? {{ani|281}}[[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Sandbox|☆]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Favorites|♥]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]][http://freewebs.com/thepixelcafe δ]{{ani|282}} 00:56, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

I don't know but it could be a reference to which game you are playing--[[Image:Ani052MS.gif]][[Image:Ani300MS.gif]][[Image:Ani431MS.gif]][[User:kittenchild|kittenchild and her discovery]][[Image:Ani264MS.gif]]A.K.A. ねこさん 01:10, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Uh, I'm playing Pearl and I get both. x.o {{ani|281}}[[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Sandbox|☆]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Favorites|♥]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]][http://freewebs.com/thepixelcafe δ]{{ani|282}} 01:11, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Whoa! Now they're saying 'The salon's air is perfumed by an herbal aroma for relaxation.' {{ani|281}}[[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Sandbox|☆]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Favorites|♥]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]][http://freewebs.com/thepixelcafe δ]{{MS|281s}} 20:09, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
:Well it '''''is''''' exclusive, after all. [[Image:164sMS.png]][[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny]][[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|?]][[Special:Contributions/Shiny Noctowl|!]] 20:10, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Hey how many Ribbons you need to get in Ribbon Syndacate and do any ribbons count or have they gotta be from Contests(Wich I suck at) [[User:PhantomCX|PhantomCX]] 14:35, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
:10 and all ribbons count. ([[User:MathijsP|MathijsP]] 15:02, 14 May 2008 (UTC))

:Thanks [[User:PhantomCX|PhantomCX]] 15:13, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Resort Area

2008-05-14T14:36:39Z

PhantomCX:

Talk:Resort Area

2008-05-14T14:35:47Z

PhantomCX:

Hey...

For the Ribbon Syndacate.

There's the Massage People there, right? Well, they say different things when you massage your Pokémon. I get either dissolved diamonds in oils, or foam containing pearl extract. Does this affect happiness? {{ani|281}}[[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Sandbox|☆]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Favorites|♥]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]][http://freewebs.com/thepixelcafe δ]{{ani|282}} 00:56, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

I don't know but it could be a reference to which game you are playing--[[Image:Ani052MS.gif]][[Image:Ani300MS.gif]][[Image:Ani431MS.gif]][[User:kittenchild|kittenchild and her discovery]][[Image:Ani264MS.gif]]A.K.A. ねこさん 01:10, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Uh, I'm playing Pearl and I get both. x.o {{ani|281}}[[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Sandbox|☆]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Favorites|♥]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]][http://freewebs.com/thepixelcafe δ]{{ani|282}} 01:11, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Whoa! Now they're saying 'The salon's air is perfumed by an herbal aroma for relaxation.' {{ani|281}}[[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Sandbox|☆]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Favorites|♥]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]][http://freewebs.com/thepixelcafe δ]{{MS|281s}} 20:09, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
:Well it '''''is''''' exclusive, after all. [[Image:164sMS.png]][[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny]][[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|?]][[Special:Contributions/Shiny Noctowl|!]] 20:10, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Hey how many Ribons you need to get in Ribbon Syndacate and do any ribons count or have they gotta be from Contests(Wich I suck at) [[User:PhantomCX|PhantomCX]] 14:35, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

User talk:Theininen

2008-05-14T08:32:16Z

PhantomCX:

User talk:Theininen

2008-05-13T07:21:37Z

PhantomCX:

User talk:Theininen

2008-05-12T08:21:30Z

PhantomCX:

Bulbapedia:Spoilers

2008-05-10T22:40:20Z

PhantomCX:

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Charmeleon (Pokémon)

2008-05-09T07:35:50Z

PhantomCX:

{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Charmander | next=Charizard }}
{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Charmeleon |
jname=リザード |
tmname=Lizardo |
image=005Charmeleon.png |
size=120px |
caption=Artwork from FR/LG |
ndex=005 |
jdex=230 |
hdex=207 |
fdex=141 |
adex=138 |
typen=1 |
type1=Fire |
type2= |
species=Flame |
height-ftin=3′07″ |
height-m=1.1 |
weight-lbs=41.9 |
weight-kg=19.0 |
abilityn=1 |
ability1=Blaze |
ability2= |
egggroupn=2 |
egggroup1=Monster |
egggroup2=Dragon |
hatchsteps=5,120 |
effortyield=1 SpA, 1 Spd |
expyield=142 |
lv100exp=1,059,860 |
gender=both |
female=12.5 |
male=87.5 |
color=Red |
catchrate=45 |
generation=1 |
pokefordex=charmeleon |
footnotes=}}
'''Charmeleon''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''リザード''' ''Lizardo'') is a {{t|Fire}}-type Pokémon.

Charmeleon comes with the [[ability]] {{A|Blaze}}, which increases the power of Fire-type attacks by 50% once the Pokémon has less than one-third of its maximum HP.

Charmeleon evolves from {{p|Charmander}} starting at Level 16, and evolves into {{p|Charizard}} starting at Level 36.

==Biology==
===Physiology===
Charmeleon is a bipedal, reptilian creature similar to Charmander. It has crimson scales that are much darker than that of the bright red Charmander. Once again it has a tail with the tip burning with fire, a trait seen in many {{type2|Fire}} Pokémon, especially the Charmander evolutionary line. At this point in time its skull has developed a horn-like protrusion to the rear. Its front and back claws are far sharper and longer than Charmander.
====Gender differences====
None.
====Special abilities====
Charmeleon can of course breathe fire. This fire is much hotter than Charmander's. This is a result of a larger flame burning at the tip of its tail than that of Charmander's.

It possesses incredibly large claws which it famously utilizes in its powerful {{m|Slash}} attack.

===Behavior===
Charmeleon tend to be stubborn, tempered and simply hot-headed. Due to their incredible power at such low level they can easily feel they are better than their trainers and will even disregard attack commands, although when tame they are a formidable opponent and a loyal partner. Also when wild Charmeleon are ready to evolve common signs are they began to travel in different areas battling random opponents, also the flame on their tails begin to flash larger occasionally.

===Habitat===
[[Image:Mountain.gif|right|frame|[[List of Pokémon by habitat#Mountain Pokémon|Mountain Pokémon]]]]
Charmeleon are rare in the wild, but thrive in harsh environments such as craggy mountains and active volcanoes, other environments where Charmeleon dwell is commonly abandoned mines and heated valleys in large numbers.

===Diet===
{{main|Pokémon food}}

Charmeleon when in the wild will hunt solitary much unlike Charmander who hunt in packs. Their diet consists that of the average omnivorous Pokémon diet.

==In the anime==
[[Image:Zippo.jpg|thumb|left|Ritchie's Charmeleon, Zippo.]]
{{Ash}}'s {{p|Charmander}} evolved into Charmeleon in ''[[EP043|March of the Exeggutor Squad]]''. It quickly grew unruly and disobedient and evolved into {{AP|Charizard}} soon after, in ''[[EP046|Attack of the Prehistoric Pokémon]]''.

In ''[[EP087|The Crystal Onix]]'', [[Mateo]] used a Charmeleon to make glass and battle the titular Crystal {{p|Onix}}.

The young [[Professor Oak|Sammy Oak]] used a Charmeleon in ''[[Pokémon 4Ever]]'' to battle [[Vicious]].

[[Zippo]], [[Ritchie]]'s Charmander, evolved into a Charmeleon off-screen and was first seen in its evolved form in ''[[EP221|A Parent Trapped]]''.

A Charmeleon also appeared under the ownership of a trainer named {{ho|Jimmy}} in ''[[AG092|Judgement Day]]''.

==In the manga==
In [[Pokémon Zensho]], [[Satoshi (Zensho)|Satoshi]] has a Charmeleon that evolved from the Charmander he received from [[Professor Oak]]. It later evolves again into Charizard.

===In the Pokémon Special manga===
Charmeleon debuts in ''[[PS005|Onix is On!]]'', part of the [[Red, Green & Blue chapter (Special)|Red, Green & Blue]] chapter, battling in the [[Pewter Gym]] as one of {{Special|Green}}'s Pokémon, it evolved from Charmander sometime between ''[[PS003|The Secret of Kangaskhan]]'' and this round. It has since evolved into Charizard.

==In the TCG==
{{main|Charmeleon (TCG)}}

==Game data==
===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex
|type=fire
|gen=1
|redbluedex=When it swings its burning tail, it elevates the temperature to unbearably high levels.
|yellowdex=Tough fights could excite this Pokémon. When excited, it may blow out bluish-white flames.
|golddex=It is very hot-headed by nature, so it constantly seeks opponents. It calms down only when it wins.
|silverdex=It has a barbaric nature. In battle, it whips its fiery tail around and {{M|slash}}es away with sharp claws.
|crystaldex=If it becomes agitated during battle, it spouts intense flames, incinerating its surroundings.
|rubydex=Charmeleon mercilessly destroys its foes using its sharp claws. If it encounters a strong foe, it turns aggressive. In this excited state, the flame at the tip of its tail flares with a bluish white color.
|sapphiredex=Charmeleon mercilessly destroys its foes using its sharp claws. If it encounters a strong foe, it turns aggressive. In this excited state, the flame at the tip of its tail flares with a bluish white color.
|emeralddex=Without pity, its sharp claws destroy foes. If it encounters a strong enemy, it becomes agitated, and the flame on its tail flares with a bluish white color.
|firereddex=It lashes about with its tail to knock down its foe. It then tears up the fallen opponent with sharp claws.
|leafgreendex=When it swings its burning tail, it elevates the air temperature to unbearably high levels.
|stadiumdex=It appears to be very vicious. It attacks with razor-sharp claws and won't stop until the enemy is defeated.
|stadium2dex=It is very hot-headed by nature, so it constantly seeks opponents. It calms down only when it wins.
|diamonddex=In the rocky mountains where Charmeleon live, their fiery tails shine at night like stars.
|pearldex=In the rocky mountains where Charmeleon live, their fiery tails shine at night like stars.
|}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability|
type=fire |
gen=1 |
rbarea=[[Evolve]] {{p|Charmander}} |
yarea=[[Evolve]] {{p|Charmander}} |
frlgarea=[[Evolve]] {{p|Charmander}} |
dparea=[[Pal Park]] |
palarea=Field |
}}
====In side games====
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{fire color}};"
! Game
! Location
|-
| [[Pokémon Snap]]
| [[Pokémon Island Volcano|Volcano]]
|-
| [[Pokémon Trozei]]
| Endless Level 1 Endless Level 4 Forever Level 50 Mr. Who's Den
|-
| [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon]]
| [[Fiery Field]] (26F-29F)
|-
| [[Pokémon Ranger]]
| [[Jungle Relic]]
|-
| [[Pokémon Ranger Batonnage]]
| [[Volcano Cave]]
|}

===Base stats===
{{BaseStats with RBY|
HP=58 |
Attack=64 |
Defense=58 |
SpAtk=80 |
SpDef=65 |
Special=65 |
Speed=80 }}

===Type effectiveness===
{{DP type effectiveness|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting=100 |
Flying= 100 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 200 |
Rock= 200 |
Bug= 50 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 50 |

Fire= 50 |
Water= 200 |
Grass= 50 |
Electric=100 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 50 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 }}

In [[Generation I]], the effectiveness of {{t|Ice}}-type moves is 100.

===Learnset===
{{Intro template|learnset intro|Charmeleon}}
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{| align="center"
|-
| valign="top" |
{| border=1 align="center" style="background: #f8f8f8; border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{fire color}};"
! colspan="3" | [[Generation I]]
|- style="background: #{{fire color}};"
! [[Level]]
! [[Move]]
! [[Type]]
|-
| rowspan="5" | Previous || {{m|Scratch}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| {{m|Growl}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| '''{{m|Ember}}''' || {{ic|Fire}}
|-
| {{m|Smokescreen}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| {{m|Leer}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| 24 || {{M|Rage}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| 33 || {{M|Slash}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| 42 || '''{{M|Flamethrower}}''' || {{ic|Fire}}
|-
| 56 || '''{{M|Fire Spin}}''' || {{ic|Fire}}
|}

| valign="top" |
{| border=1 align="center" style="background: #f8f8f8; border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{fire color}};"
! colspan="3" | [[Generation II]]
|- style="background: #{{fire color}};"
! [[Level]]
! [[Move]]
! [[Type]]
|-
| rowspan="4" | Previous || {{M|Scratch}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| {{m|Growl}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| '''{{m|Ember}}''' || {{ic|Fire}}
|-
| {{m|Smokescreen}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| 20 || {{M|Rage}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| 27 || {{M|Scary Face}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| 34 || '''{{M|Flamethrower}}''' || {{ic|Fire}}
|-
| 41 || {{M|Slash}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| 48 || {{M|Dragon Rage}} || {{ic|Dragon}}
|-
| 55 || '''{{M|Fire Spin}}''' || {{ic|Fire}}
|}

| valign="top" |
{| border=1 align="center" style="background: #f8f8f8; border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{fire color}};"
! colspan="3" | [[Generation III]]
|- style="background: #{{fire color}};"
! [[Level]]
! [[Move]]
! [[Type]]
|-
| rowspan="4" | Previous || {{m|Scratch}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| {{m|Growl}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| '''{{m|Ember}}''' || {{ic|Fire}}
|-
| {{m|Metal Claw}} || {{ic|Steel}}
|-
| 20 || {{M|Rage}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| 27 || {{M|Scary Face}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| 34 || '''{{M|Flamethrower}}''' || {{ic|Fire}}
|-
| 41 || {{M|Slash}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| 48 || {{M|Dragon Rage}} || {{ic|Dragon}}
|-
| 55 || '''{{M|Fire Spin}}''' || {{ic|Fire}}
|}

| valign="top" |
{| border=1 align="center" style="background: #f8f8f8; border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{fire color}};"
! colspan="4" | [[Generation IV]]
|- style="background: #{{fire color}};"
! [[Level]]
! [[Move]]
! [[Type]]
! [[Damage category|Cat.]]
|-
| rowspan="4" | Previous || {{m|Scratch}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Physical}}
|-
| {{m|Growl}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| '''{{m|Ember}}''' || {{ic|Fire}} || {{ic|Special}}
|-
| {{M|Smokescreen}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| 17 || {{M|Dragon Rage}} || {{ic|Dragon}} || {{ic|Special}}
|-
| 21 || {{M|Scary Face}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| 28 || '''{{M|Fire Fang}}''' || {{ic|Fire}} || {{ic|Physical}}
|-
| 32 || {{M|Slash}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Physical}}
|-
| 39 || '''{{M|Flamethrower}}''' || {{ic|Fire}} || {{ic|Special}}
|-
| 43 || '''{{M|Fire Spin}}''' || {{ic|Fire}} || {{ic|Special}}
|}
|}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{| align="center"
|-
| valign="top" |
{| border="1" style="background: #f8f8f8; border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{fire color}};"
! colspan="3" | [[Generation I]]
|- style="background: #{{fire color}};"
! [[TM|#]]
! [[Move]]
! [[Type]]
|-
| [[TM01]] || {{m|Mega Punch}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| [[TM03]] || {{m|Swords Dance}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| [[TM05]] || {{m|Mega Kick}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| [[TM06]] || {{m|Toxic}} || {{ic|Poison}}
|-
| [[TM08]] || {{m|Body Slam}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| [[TM09]] || {{m|Take Down}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| [[TM10]] || {{m|Double-Edge}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| [[TM17]] || {{m|Submission}} || {{ic|Fighting}}
|-
| [[TM18]] || {{m|Counter}} || {{ic|Fighting}}
|-
| [[TM19]] || {{m|Seismic Toss}} || {{ic|Fighting}}
|-
| [[TM20]] || {{m|Rage}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| [[TM23]] || {{m|Dragon Rage}} || {{ic|Dragon}}
|-
| [[TM28]] || {{m|Dig}} || {{ic|Ground}}
|-
| [[TM31]] || {{m|Mimic}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| [[TM32]] || {{m|Double Team}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| [[TM33]] || {{m|Reflect}} || {{ic|Psychic}}
|-
| [[TM34]] || {{m|Bide}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| [[TM38]] || '''{{m|Fire Blast}}''' || {{ic|Fire}}
|-
| [[TM39]] || {{m|Swift}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| [[TM40]] || {{m|Skull Bash}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| [[TM44]] || {{M|Rest}} || {{ic|Psychic}}
|-
| [[TM50]] || {{M|Substitute}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| [[HM01]] || {{M|Cut}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| [[HM04]] || {{m|Strength}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
|}

| valign="top" |
{| border="1" style="background: #f8f8f8; border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{fire color}};"
! colspan="3" | [[Generation II]]
|- style="background: #{{fire color}};"
! [[TM|#]]
! [[Move]]
! [[Type]]
|-
| [[TM01]] || {{m|DynamicPunch}} || {{ic|Fighting}}
|-
| [[TM02]] || {{m|Headbutt}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| [[TM03]] || {{m|Curse}} || {{ic|Unknown}}
|-
| [[TM06]] || {{m|Toxic}} || {{ic|Poison}}
|-
| [[TM08]] || {{m|Rock Smash}} || {{ic|Fighting}}
|-
| [[TM10]] || {{m|Hidden Power}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| [[TM11]] || {{m|Sunny Day}} || {{ic|Fire}}
|-
| [[TM13]] || {{M|Snore}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| [[TM17]] || {{m|Protect}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| [[TM20]] || {{m|Endure}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| [[TM21]] || {{m|Frustration}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| [[TM23]] || {{m|Iron Tail}} || {{ic|Steel}}
|-
| [[TM24]] || {{m|DragonBreath}} || {{ic|Dragon}}
|-
| [[TM27]] || {{m|Return}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| [[TM28]] || {{m|Dig}} || {{ic|Ground}}
|-
| [[TM31]] || {{m|Mud-Slap}} || {{ic|Ground}}
|-
| [[TM32]] || {{m|Double Team}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| [[TM34]] || {{M|Swagger}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| [[TM35]] || {{M|Sleep Talk}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| [[TM38]] || '''{{m|Fire Blast}}''' || {{ic|Fire}}
|-
| [[TM39]] || {{m|Swift}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| [[TM40]] || {{M|Defense Curl}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| [[TM44]] || {{M|Rest}} || {{ic|Psychic}}
|-
| [[TM45]] || {{M|Attract}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| [[TM48]] || '''{{m|Fire Punch}}''' || {{ic|Fire}}
|-
| [[TM49]] || {{M|Fury Cutter}} || {{ic|Bug}}
|-
| [[HM01]] || {{M|Cut}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| [[HM05]] || {{M|Flash}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|}

| valign="top" |
{| border="1" style="background: #f8f8f8; border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{fire color}};"
! colspan="3" | [[Generation III]]
|- style="background: #{{fire color}};"
! [[TM|#]]
! [[Move]]
! [[Type]]
|-
| [[TM01]] || {{m|Focus Punch}} || {{ic|Fighting}}
|-
| [[TM02]] || {{m|Dragon Claw}} || {{ic|Dragon}}
|-
| [[TM06]] || {{m|Toxic}} || {{ic|Poison}}
|-
| [[TM10]] || {{m|Hidden Power}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| [[TM11]] || {{m|Sunny Day}} || {{ic|Fire}}
|-
| [[TM17]] || {{m|Protect}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| [[TM21]] || {{m|Frustration}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| [[TM23]] || {{m|Iron Tail}} || {{ic|Steel}}
|-
| [[TM27]] || {{m|Return}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| [[TM28]] || {{m|Dig}} || {{ic|Ground}}
|-
| [[TM31]] || {{m|Brick Break}} || {{ic|Fighting}}
|-
| [[TM32]] || {{m|Double Team}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| [[TM35]] || '''{{M|Flamethrower}}''' || {{ic|Fire}}
|-
| [[TM38]] || '''{{m|Fire Blast}}''' || {{ic|Fire}}
|-
| [[TM40]] || ''{{m|Aerial Ace}}'' || {{ic|Flying}}
|-
| [[TM42]] || {{m|Facade}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| [[TM43]] || {{M|Secret Power}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| [[TM44]] || {{M|Rest}} || {{ic|Psychic}}
|-
| [[TM45]] || {{M|Attract}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| [[TM50]] || '''{{m|Overheat}}''' || {{ic|Fire}}
|-
| [[HM01]] || {{M|Cut}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| [[HM04]] || {{M|Strength}} || {{ic|Normal}}
|-
| [[HM06]] || {{M|Rock Smash}} || {{ic|Fighting}}
|}

| valign="top" |
{| border="1" style="background: #f8f8f8; border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{fire color}};"
! colspan="4" | [[Generation IV]]
|- style="background: #{{fire color}};"
! [[TM|#]]
! [[Move]]
! [[Type]]
! [[Damage category|Cat.]]
|-
| [[TM01]] || {{m|Focus Punch}} || {{ic|Fighting}} || {{ic|Physical}}
|-
| [[TM02]] || {{m|Dragon Claw}} || {{ic|Dragon}} || {{ic|Physical}}
|-
| [[TM06]] || {{m|Toxic}} || {{ic|Poison}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| [[TM10]] || {{m|Hidden Power}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Special}}
|-
| [[TM11]] || {{m|Sunny Day}} || {{ic|Fire}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| [[TM17]] || {{m|Protect}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| [[TM21]] || {{m|Frustration}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Physical}}
|-
| [[TM23]] || {{m|Iron Tail}} || {{ic|Steel}} || {{ic|Physical}}
|-
| [[TM27]] || {{m|Return}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Physical}}
|-
| [[TM28]] || {{m|Dig}} || {{ic|Ground}} || {{ic|Physical}}
|-
| [[TM31]] || {{m|Brick Break}} || {{ic|Fighting}} || {{ic|Physical}}
|-
| [[TM32]] || {{m|Double Team}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| [[TM35]] || '''{{M|Flamethrower}}''' || {{ic|Fire}} || {{ic|Special}}
|-
| [[TM38]] || '''{{m|Fire Blast}}''' || {{ic|Fire}} || {{ic|Special}}
|-
| [[TM40]] || ''{{m|Aerial Ace}}'' || {{ic|Flying}} || {{ic|Physical}}
|-
| [[TM42]] || {{m|Facade}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Physical}}
|-
| [[TM43]] || {{M|Secret Power}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Physical}}
|-
| [[TM44]] || {{M|Rest}} || {{ic|Psychic}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| [[TM45]] || {{M|Attract}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| [[TM50]] || '''{{m|Overheat}}''' || {{ic|Fire}} || {{ic|Special}}
|-
| [[TM53]] || {{M|Fling}} || {{ic|Dark}} || {{ic|Physical}}
|-
| [[TM61]] || {{M|Will-O-Wisp}} || {{ic|Fire}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| [[TM65]] || {{M|Shadow Claw}} || {{ic|Ghost}} || {{ic|Physical}}
|-
| [[TM75]] || {{M|Swords Dance}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| [[TM78]] || {{M|Captivate}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| [[TM82]] || {{M|Rock Slide}} || {{ic|Rock}} || {{ic|Physical}}
|-
| [[TM82]] || {{M|Sleep Talk}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| [[TM83]] || {{M|Natural Gift}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Physical}}
|-
| [[TM87]] || {{M|Swagger}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| [[TM90]] || {{M|Substitute}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Status}}
|-
| [[HM01]] || {{M|Cut}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Physical}}
|-
| [[HM04]] || {{M|Strength}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Physical}}
|-
| [[HM06]] || {{M|Rock Smash}} || {{ic|Fighting}} || {{ic|Physical}}
|}
|}

====By [[Pokémon breeding|breeding]]====
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{fire color}};"
! Move
! [[Type]]
! [[Damage category|Cat.]]
! Father
|-
| {{m|AncientPower}} || {{ic|Rock}} || {{ic|Special}} || {{p|Cranidos}}, {{p|Rampardos}} {{p|Shieldon}}, {{p|Bastiodon}}
|-
| {{m|Beat Up}}* || {{ic|Dark}} || {{ic|Physical}} || {{p|Ekans}}, {{p|Arbok}} {{p|Nidoran♂}}, {{p|Nidorino}}, {{p|Nidoking}}
|-
| {{m|Belly Drum}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Status}} || {{p|Snorlax}}
|-
| {{m|Bite}} || {{ic|Dark}} || {{ic|Physical}} || {{p|Squirtle}}, {{p|Wartortle}}, {{p|Blastoise}} {{p|Ekans}}, {{p|Arbok}} {{p|Gyarados}} {{p|Totodile}}, {{p|Croconaw}}, {{p|Feraligatr}} {{p|Larvitar}}, {{p|Pupitar}}, {{p|Tyranitar}} {{p|Loudred}}, {{p|Exploud}} {{p|Seviper}} {{p|Bagon}}, {{p|Shelgon}}, {{p|Salamence}} {{p|Turtwig}}, {{p|Grotle}}, {{p|Torterra}}
|-
| {{m|Crunch}} || {{ic|Dark}} || {{ic|Physical}} || {{p|Arbok}} {{p|Snorlax}} {{p|Totodile}}, {{p|Croconaw}}, {{p|Feraligatr}} {{p|Larvitar}}, {{p|Pupitar}}, {{p|Tyranitar}} {{p|Exploud}} {{p|Seviper}} {{p|Bagon}}, {{p|Shelgon}}, {{p|Salamence}} {{p|Turtwig}}, {{p|Grotle}}, {{p|Torterra}} {{p|Garchomp}}
|-
| {{m|Dragon Dance}} || {{ic|Dragon}} || {{ic|Status}} || {{p|Horsea}}, {{p|Seadra}}, {{p|Kingdra}} {{p|Gyarados}} {{p|Dratini}}, {{p|Dragonair}}, {{p|Dragonite}} {{p|Altaria}}
|-
| {{m|Dragon Rush}} || {{ic|Dragon}} || {{ic|Physical}} || {{p|Dratini}}, {{p|Dragonair}}, {{p|Dragonite}} {{p|Gible}}, {{p|Gabite}}, {{p|Garchomp}}
|-
| '''{{m|Flare Blitz}}''' || {{ic|Fire}} || {{ic|Physical}} || {{p|Charizard}}
|-
| {{m|Metal Claw}} || {{ic|Steel}} || {{ic|Physical}} || {{p|Aron}}, {{p|Lairon}}, {{p|Aggron}}
|-
| {{m|Outrage}} || {{ic|Dragon}} || {{ic|Physical}} || {{p|Dratini}}, {{p|Dragonair}}, {{p|Dragonite}}
|-
| {{m|Rock Slide}} || {{ic|Rock}} || {{ic|Physical}} || {{p|Larvitar}}, {{p|Pupitar}}, {{p|Tyranitar}}
|-
| {{m|Swords Dance}}* || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Status}} || {{p|Cubone}}, {{p|Marowak}} {{p|Rhyhorn}}, {{p|Rhydon}}, {{p|Rhyperior}}
|-
| colspan="4" |<nowiki>*</nowiki>Indicates moves only available through [[chain breeding]].
|}

====By [[move tutor|tutoring]]====
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{fire color}};"
! [[Move]]
! [[Type]]
! [[Damage category|Cat.]]
! colspan="3" | [[Version]]
|-
| {{m|Body Slam}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Physical}} || style="background:#FF6000" | [[Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen|'''FR''' || style="background: #00EE00" | '''LG''']] || style="background:#00C000" | [[Pokémon Emerald|'''E''']]
|-
| {{m|Counter}} || {{ic|Fighting}} || {{ic|Physical}} || style="background:#FF6000" | [[Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen|'''FR''' || style="background: #00EE00" | '''LG''']] || style="background:#00C000" | [[Pokémon Emerald|'''E''']]
|-
| {{m|Double-Edge}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Physical}} || style="background:#FF6000" | [[Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen|'''FR''' || style="background: #00EE00" | '''LG''']] || style="background:#00C000" | [[Pokémon Emerald|'''E''']]
|-
| {{m|Mega Kick}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Physical}} || style="background:#FF6000" | [[Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen|'''FR''' || style="background: #00EE00" | '''LG''']] || style="background:#00C000" | [[Pokémon Emerald|'''E''']]
|-
| {{m|Mega Punch}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Physical}} || style="background:#FF6000" | [[Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen|'''FR''' || style="background: #00EE00" | '''LG''']] || style="background:#00C000" | [[Pokémon Emerald|'''E''']]
|-
| {{m|Mimic}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Status}} || style="background:#FF6000" | [[Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen|'''FR''' || style="background: #00EE00" | '''LG''']] || style="background:#00C000" | [[Pokémon Emerald|'''E''']]
|-
| {{m|Rock Slide}} || {{ic|Rock}} || {{ic|Physical}} || style="background:#FF6000" | [[Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen|'''FR''' || style="background: #00EE00" | '''LG''']] || style="background:#00C000" | [[Pokémon Emerald|'''E''']]
|-
| {{m|Seismic Toss}} || {{ic|Fighting}} || {{ic|Physical}} || style="background:#FF6000" | [[Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen|'''FR''' || style="background: #00EE00" | '''LG''']] || style="background:#00C000" | [[Pokémon Emerald|'''E''']]
|-
| {{m|Substitute}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Status}} || style="background:#FF6000" | [[Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen|'''FR''' || style="background: #00EE00" | '''LG''']] || style="background:#00C000" | [[Pokémon Emerald|'''E''']]
|-
| {{m|Swords Dance}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Status}} || style="background:#FF6000" | [[Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen|'''FR''' || style="background: #00EE00" | '''LG''']] || style="background:#00C000" | [[Pokémon Emerald|'''E''']]
|-
| {{m|Defense Curl}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Status}} ||   ||   || style="background:#00C000" | [[Pokémon Emerald|'''E''']]
|-
| {{m|DynamicPunch}} || {{ic|Fighting}} || {{ic|Physical}} ||   ||   || style="background:#00C000" | [[Pokémon Emerald|'''E''']]
|-
| {{m|Endure}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Status}} ||   ||   || style="background:#00C000" | [[Pokémon Emerald|'''E''']]
|-
| '''{{m|Fire Punch}}''' || {{ic|Fire}} || {{ic|Physical}} ||   ||   || style="background:#00C000" | [[Pokémon Emerald|'''E''']]
|-
| {{m|Fury Cutter}} || {{ic|Bug}} || {{ic|Physical}} ||   ||   || style="background:#00C000" | [[Pokémon Emerald|'''E''']]
|-
| {{m|Mud-Slap}} || {{ic|Ground}} || {{ic|Special}} ||   ||   || style="background:#00C000" | [[Pokémon Emerald|'''E''']]
|-
| {{m|Sleep Talk}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Status}} ||   ||   || style="background:#00C000" | [[Pokémon Emerald|'''E''']]
|-
| {{m|Snore}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Physical}} ||   ||   || style="background:#00C000" | [[Pokémon Emerald|'''E''']]
|-
| {{m|Swagger}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Status}} ||   ||   || style="background:#00C000" | [[Pokémon Emerald|'''E''']]
|-
| {{m|Swift}} || {{ic|Normal}} || {{ic|Special}} ||   ||   || style="background:#00C000" | [[Pokémon Emerald|'''E''']]
|}

===Side game data===
{{Side game|
type=fire |
ndex=005 |
Pinevo=yes |
Trozei=yes |
rarity=Rare |
Dungeon=yes |
type=fire |
body=1 |
rate=-19% |
area=Mt. Cleft |
P1= I'll KO foes with my burning tail! |
P2= My health is down to half. My flame is weakening, too. |
P3= The flame on my tail is about to go out... |
PL= Yes! Leveled up! |
Partner=no |
Ranger=yes |
typeG=Fire |
typeA=Fire |
field=Burn x2 |
loop=5 |
browser= Charmeleon breaths a large ball of fire that can melt small pieces of Scrap Metal. |
Ranger2=yes |
typeG2= Fire |
typeA2= Fire |
field2= Burn x2 |
}}

===Evolution===
{| border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="margin: auto;"
|-
| rowspan="5" |
{{EvoChart Box|
text=Basic |
image=004.png |
name=Charmander }}
|
{{EvoChart Box|
text=Level 16 |
image=005.png |
name=Charmeleon }}
|
{{EvoChart Box|
text=Level 36 |
image=006.png |
name=Charizard }}
|}

===Sprites===
{{Sprite
|type=Fire
|gen=1
|gender=none
|ndex=005
|name=Charmeleon
|}}

==Trivia==
* Although Charmeleon's name is based on the word chameleon, it does not physically share traits with these reptiles.

===Origin===
Charmeleon resembles a small dinosaur with some remnants of {{p|Charmander}}'s {{wp|salamander}}-like appearance.

====Name origin====
Charmeleon's name is a combination of the word ''char'', to burn, and ''{{wp|chameleon}}''. Its Japanese name is the Katakana spelling of ''lizard''.

==In other languages==
* [[List of German Pokémon names|German]]: Glutexo
* [[List of French Pokémon names|French]]: Reptincel - Most likely a combination of ''Reptile'', and ''Étincelle'', meaning ''spark''.
* [[List of Korean Pokémon names|Korean]]: 리자드 ''Rijadeu'' - Hangul spelling of ''Lizard''.
* [[List of Chinese Pokémon names|Chinese]] (Hong Kong and Taiwan): 火恐龍 ''Xíao Kông Lóng'' - "Fire dinosaur".

==Related articles==
* [[Ash's Charizard|Ash's Charmeleon]]
* [[Zippo]]

==External links==
* [[wp:Charmeleon|Article on Wikipedia]]

{{Starter Pokémon‎}}
{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Charmander | next=Charizard }}
{{Project Pokédex notice}}
[[Category:Pokémon that are part of a three-stage evolutionary line]]

[[de:Glutexo]]
[[fr:Reptincel]]
[[ja:リザード]]
[[pl:Charmeleon]]
[[pt:Charmeleon (pokémon)]]

Dragon (type)

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{{ElementalTypes}}
{{TypeNotice|Dragon|ドラゴン|Dragon}}
Notable trainers of the Dragon-type include [[Lance]] and [[Drake (Elite Four)|Drake]] of the [[Elite Four]] and [[Clair]], the [[Gym Leader]] of [[Blackthorn City]].

==Statistical averages==

{{BaseStats|
HP=73 |
Attack=96 |
Defense=78 |
SpAtk=86 |
SpDef=80 |
Speed=81 }}

==Battle properties==
Dragon-type moves:
*Are super effective against: '''Dragon'''
*Are not very effective against: {{t|Steel}}
*Have no effect against: None

Dragon-type Pokémon:
*Resist: {{t|Electric}}, {{t|Fire}}, {{t|Grass}}, {{t|Water}}
*Are weak to: '''Dragon''', {{t|Ice}}
*Have immunity to: None

==Characteristics==
The Dragon-type has been commonly thought of as a legendary or near-legendary type. Because of the minimal amount of weaknesses that they have, they often find a way onto trainers' [[party|teams]]. The downside to the supposed power that they have is that they are slightly harder to raise, with many of them not evolving from their first stage to their second until a [[level]] at which many Pokémon are near their final evolutions, and their final evolution near level 50. Most Dragon-type Pokémon have high Attack and Special Attack.

The Dragon-type is good offensively. Steel is the only type which is resistant to Dragon-type moves. {{m|Dragon Dance}} is also a very common move for physical sweepers.

Defensively, they don't have many resistances in battle, but they can hold off enough attacks to do some damage of their own. Most fully-[[Evolution|evolved]] Dragon-types have a double weakness to {{type2|Ice}} moves, due to their secondary types.

As of [[Generation IV]], all fully-evolved Dragon-types also have a secondary type.

==Pokémon==

===Pure Dragon-type Pokémon===
{| {{Bluetable|background: white; margin: auto;}}
|- style="background: #ccf;"
! #
!
! Name
|-
|147
|[[Image:147MS.gif]]
|{{p|Dratini}}
|-
|148
|[[Image:148MS.gif]]
|{{p|Dragonair}}
|-
|371
|[[Image:371MS.gif]]
|{{p|Bagon}}
|-
|372
|[[Image:372MS.gif]]
|{{p|Shelgon}}
|}

===Half Dragon-type Pokémon===
''Primary Dragon-type Pokémon''
{| {{Bluetable|background: white; margin: auto;}}
|- style="background: #ccf;"
! #
!
! Name
! Type 1
! Type 2
|-
|149
|[[Image:149MS.gif]]
|{{p|Dragonite}}
| align="center" |[[Image:DragonIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:FlyingIC.gif]]
|-
|334
|[[Image:334MS.gif]]
|{{p|Altaria}}
| align="center" |[[Image:DragonIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:FlyingIC.gif]]
|-
|373
|[[Image:373MS.gif]]
|{{p|Salamence}}
| align="center" |[[Image:DragonIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:FlyingIC.gif]]
|-
|380
|[[Image:380MS.gif]]
|{{p|Latias}}
| align="center" |[[Image:DragonIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:PsychicIC.gif]]
|-
|381
|[[Image:381MS.gif]]
|{{p|Latios}}
| align="center" |[[Image:DragonIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:PsychicIC.gif]]
|-
|384
|[[Image:384MS.gif]]
|{{p|Rayquaza}}
| align="center" |[[Image:DragonIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:FlyingIC.gif]]
|-
|443
|[[Image:443MS.png]]
|{{p|Gible}}
| align="center" |[[Image:DragonIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:GroundIC.gif]]
|-
|444
|[[Image:444MS.png]]
|{{p|Gabite}}
| align="center" |[[Image:DragonIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:GroundIC.gif]]
|-
|445
|[[Image:445MS.png]]
|{{p|Garchomp}}
| align="center" |[[Image:DragonIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:GroundIC.gif]]
|}

''Secondary Dragon-type Pokémon''
{| {{Bluetable|background: white; margin: auto;}}
|- style="background: #ccf;"
! #
!
! Name
! Type 1
! Type 2
|-
|230
|[[Image:230MS.gif]]
|{{p|Kingdra}}
| align="center" |[[Image:WaterIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:DragonIC.gif]]
|-
|329
|[[Image:329MS.gif]]
|{{p|Vibrava}}
| align="center" |[[Image:GroundIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:DragonIC.gif]]
|-
|330
|[[Image:330MS.gif]]
|{{p|Flygon}}
| align="center" |[[Image:GroundIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:DragonIC.gif]]
|-
|483
|[[Image:483MS.png]]
|{{p|Dialga}}
| align="center" |[[Image:SteelIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:DragonIC.gif]]
|-
|484
|[[Image:484MS.png]]
|{{p|Palkia}}
| align="center" |[[Image:WaterIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:DragonIC.gif]]
|-
|487
|[[Image:487MS.png]]
|{{p|Giratina}}
| align="center" |[[Image:GhostIC.gif]]
| align="center" |[[Image:DragonIC.gif]]
|}

==Moves==

===Damage-dealing moves===
{| {{bluetable2|r sortable}} width="100%"
|- class="c"
! Name
! Category
! Contest
! Power
! Accuracy
! PP
! Target
! Notes
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Draco Meteor}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Special}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Smart}}
| class="c" | 140
| class="c" | 90%
| class="c" | 5
| class="c" | One foe
| class="l" | Sharply reduces the user's {{stat|Special Attack}} stat.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|DragonBreath}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Special}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Cool}}
| class="c" | 60
| class="c" | 100%
| class="c" | 20
| class="c" | One foe
| class="l" | Has a 30% chance of {{status|Paralysis|paralyzing}} the target.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Dragon Claw}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Physical}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Cool}}
| class="c" | 80
| class="c" | 100%
| class="c" | 15
| class="c" | One foe
| class="l" |
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Dragon Pulse}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Special}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Smart}}
| class="c" | 90
| class="c" | 100%
| class="c" | 10
| class="c" | One foe
| class="l" |
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Dragon Rage}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Special}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Cool}}
| class="c" | —%
| class="c" | 100%
| class="c" | 10
| class="c" | One foe
| class="l" | Always inflicts 40 HP damage.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Dragon Rush}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Physical}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Cool}}
| class="c" | 100
| class="c" | 75%
| class="c" | 10
| class="c" | One foe
| class="l" | Has a 20% chance of making the target {{status|Flinch|flinch}}.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Outrage}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Physical}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Cool}}
| class="c" | 120
| class="c" | 100%
| class="c" | 15
| class="c" | Random
| class="l" | User attacks for two to three turns. Afterwards, the user becomes {{status|Confusion|confused}}.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Roar of Time}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Special}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Cool}}
| class="c" | 150
| class="c" | 90%
| class="c" | 5
| class="c" | One foe
| class="l" | The user must rest on the next turn.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Spacial Rend}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Special}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Tough}}
| class="c" | 100
| class="c" | 95%
| class="c" | 5
| class="c" | One foe
| class="l" | Has a high critical hit ratio.
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Twister}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Special}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Cool}}
| class="c" | 40
| class="c" | 100%
| class="c" | 20
| class="c" | One foe
| class="l" | Has a 20% chance of making the target {{status|Flinch|flinch}}. Capable of hitting opponents while they are using {{m|Fly}}.
|}

===Non-damaging moves===
{| {{bluetable2|r sortable}} width="100%"
|- class="c"
! Name
! Category
! Contest
! Power
! Accuracy
! PP
! Target
! Notes
|-
| class="l" | {{m|Dragon Dance}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Status}}
| class="c" | {{ic|Cool}}
| class="c" | —
| class="c" | —%
| class="c" | 20
| class="c" | User
| class="l" | Raises {{stat|Attack}} and {{stat|Speed}} by one stage.
|}

=Trivia=
* In [[Generation I]], there was only one Dragon-type attack, {{m|Dragon Rage}}; but because it only deals 40 HP of damage, there was no way to do variable Dragon-type damage.
* It has been speculated that if {{p|Eevee}} receives another evolution in a future game, it would be Dragon, being the only special type left that Eevee has yet to evolve into.
* There are only 11 Dragon-type moves, the least of any type.
* None of the main characters of the {{pkmn|anime}}  own a Dragon-type Pokémon. However, [[Misty]] currently owns a Pokémon that can evolve into a Dragon-type: {{TP|Misty|Horsea}}.

=In other languages=
* French: '''Dragon'''
* German: '''Drache'''
* Italian: '''Drago'''
* Spanish: '''Dragón'''
* Korean: '''드래곤''' ''dragon''

[[de:Drache (Typ)]]
[[fr:Dragon]]
[[ja:ドラゴン]]
[[pt:Tipo Dragon]]