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Talk:Shiny Pokémon/Archive 1

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==Ratio==
> can someone explain the ratio thing with the xor an everything? [[User:Squeela|this S**T will turn your mama white]] 16:18, 14 November 2008 (UTC)squeela[[User:Squeela| this S**T will turn your mama white]] 16:18, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

>In the TCG, shiny Pokémon are called "shining" Pokémon.

Yes and no. There's "shining" cards, "crystal" cards, and the new ones that don't have a collecive name but are denoted by a star on them (so are commonly called "stars" or "shining stars")- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Blackjack Gabbiani|Blackjack Gabbiani]] ([[User talk:Blackjack Gabbiani|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Blackjack Gabbiani|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''

:Crystal cards had the same Pokemon coloring as regular ones. "Shining" was the official name and i don't know why people use that crappy "shiny" word... --[[User:AtoMan|AtoMan]] 10:17, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

>If you evolve a shiny pokemon, will it stay shiny? [[User:Therequiembellishere|Therequiembellishere]] 19:05, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Yes, although sometimes the coloration of it will change. Shiny Charmeleon changes from off-red to a black Charizard, for instance. --[[User:Zeta|Zeta]] 21:05, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

It's the same as a red Charmeleon becoming an orange Charizard. Regular becomes regular, shiny becomes shiny. It's another status like the nature. [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 00:05, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry but the {{p|Kecleon}} seen in [[EP205]] is not a shiny pokémon. To my knowledge an alternate colored Kecleon is turquoise not purple. -- {{u|Kenji-girl}}

: If it's not a normally-coloured Pokémon it must, logically, be an alternately-coloured Pokémon. It doesn't matter if it doesn't match the precise alternate colouration of the games. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 10:45, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

::Technically, yes; "alternately colored" means, technically, it's simply a different color. "Shiny" is a different story, however. [[User:Urutapu|Urutapu]] 18:27, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

:Those purple Kecleon are like that because... they're Kecleon, simple as it sounds. Not sure how to word it in the article, but it's not surprising that a chameleon Pokémon can have color variations, either because the interpretation of its traits is to blend with its surroundings (field Kecleon, pinball, anime) or changing its type via {{a|Color Change}}. This is too similar to discussing [[Smeargle (Pokémon)#Pokédex entries|the Crystal Pokédex entry for Smeargle]] --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 20:54, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Well, as there is said, every trainer has his own IDtrainer, which can be seen, and secret IDsecret , which can't be seen anywhere (that's why it's called secret).
Then, Pokémon has its own personality value, which is represented by 32 bits (all of them either 1 or 0). As you can read about it [[personality value#Shininess|here]].
E is the amount of ''ID'' xor ''ID2'' (the trainer's ID and the secret ID), while F is ''(the first 16 digits)'' xor ''(the second 16 digits)''. Then if E xor F is less than 8, the Pokémonis shiny.
But what that "xor" is? Good question. Xor is a mathematical function, that will compare two numbers (it should work only in binary) and:
- if the numbers are the same (either 1/1 or 0/0), the result is 0
- if the numbers are different (either 1/0 or 0/1, what's technically teh same case)
the result is 0.
Now, the first 16 digits of personality value in binary xor the second 16 digits will logically give number with 16 digits.
Both IDtrainer and IDsecret have 16 digits, thus the result will have 16 digits as well.
Now, when we did IDtrainer xor IDsecret and got the first number with 16 digits (E) and we first 16 digits xor second 16 digits (F), we do E xor F. If the results is less than 8, the Pokémon will be shiny.
The chance of this happening is 1/8192 as said everywhere, because the highest number with 16 digits in binary is 65 535 in decimal, plus 1 one (0). As said before, "the Pokémon is shiny if the result less than 8", thus there are 8 solutions out of thos 65536 possible. 8/65 536 = 1/8192, what is approximately about 0,0001220703125%. --KingisNitro

==Breeding chance in Gen IV==
Though I haven't found any definite sources, apparently the odds of breeding a shiny pokemon to have a shiny offspring is 1/8192, as much as finding a regular shiny. Is this true? If so, this renders Shiny dittos practically useless. [[User:Razor|Razor]] 07:18, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

: As useless as shiny Pokemon are regularly, but yes. It's the same odds as it would be with a regular Pokemon. --[[User:Porygon|Porygon]] 09:44, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

::Though really, a shiny Pokémon is no more useless than a regular one, since it's no longer determined on stats. --'''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 17:44, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

the chances are exactly the same - its only in GSC that its a 1/64 of a shiny parents egg being shiny [[user: adambesthythe]]

== Shiny Pokemon ==

Would it be worth it if we put in a Section or even a whole new page that showed a normal Pokemon's sprite along with it's Shiny sprite image? [[User:Tesh|Tesh]] 17:11, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
I think it is a good idea because it would be interesting to see.[[User:Tesh|Tesh]] 10:05, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

== Include 4th Gen formulas? ==

I think this article should include the formulas for determining whether or not a pokemon is shiny from its MAP and OT IDs. Any objections? Also, the probability of obtaining a shiny in Gens 3/4 should be corrected to the correct value, 1/8192, not 2/65025. Where did that number come from, anyway?
--[[User:Reuvens|Reuvens]] 22:15, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
:I think the second number is the chance that a Pokémon will contract Pokérus. :/ Good idea, by the way. -- [[User:Umbee|Umbee]] 19:52, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
I think I've found the source of this ridiculous number, after a little bit of futzing. 256^2 is 65536, and the chance of encountering a shiny is 8/65536. However, 255^2 is 65025, and so it's possible that someone hit a wrong button on their calculator when trying to calculate chances. Unfortunately, I doubt that figuring any of this out is going to change the fact that a whole bunch of people are now misreporting the odds as 2/65025 simply by virtue of it previously being on Bulbapedia. Hopefully it'll die out soon.-- [[User:Reuvens|Reuvens]] 01:12, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

<strike>The chance is not 8/65536 (1/8192), but '''8 in 65536''', or '''8/(65536-8)''' (or 1/819'''1'''). That makes the chance 0.0001220852154804053% instead of 0.0001220703125%.</strike> Not much of a difference, but if such an insanely precise percentage is given, it should be accurate. Also the 2-10 isn't right, 8/65536 is 2-13. I'm correcting this both here and on [[Personality value]] --[[User:En-Cu-Kou|En-Cu-Kou]] 20:20, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

:Well if the chance of something is '''1 in 10''' it mathematically IS a 10% chance (which is 1/10. 1in10= 10%= 0.1= 1/10). <strike>You are saying that '''1 in 10''' is 1/(10-1) which simplifies into 1/9 (just like you said 1/(8192-1) simplifies to 1/8191) ) which is 10.11..% (1/9= 10.11..%= 0.11..). 10%≠10.11..%. So ''you'' are also saying that if something is a 1 in 3 chance it is a 1/(3-1) chance (which simplifies to 1/2, 1/2 is 50%--1/3 is 33.33%).</strike> If I have a jar with 3 different colored (red,pink,blue) marbles the chance of getting a pink is 1/3 (33.33%), blue is 1/3 (33.33%), and red is 1/3 (33.33%). All three percents add up to 100% and fractions add up 1 (3/3=1).<strike> If each was 50% like ''you'' were saying it would add up to 150% and 1.5 (3/2=1.5).</strike> And I was gonna round those decimal numbers on those pages, I just forgot. --[[User:Sivart345|Sivart]][[User talk:Sivart345|3]][[Special:Contributions/Sivart345|4]][[User:Firestorm|'''5''']] 22:47, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
::<strike>Nobody agrees with me?</strike> Wow, I just realized that when I wrote the chance of shininess in the pages (before En-Cu-Kou changed them) that I ''did'' write 2-10 instead of 2-13 (even though I knew it was the latter one) (guess he was right in changing that). [[User:Sivart345|Sivart]][[User talk:Sivart345|3]][[Special:Contributions/Sivart345|4]][[User:Firestorm|'''5''']] 19:02, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
::Oh man. Yes, you're right. I'm sorry for messing this up. --[[User:En-Cu-Kou|En-Cu-Kou]] 19:59, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
:::It's all cool. I crossed out the 'incorrect data' in our comments. [[User:Sivart345|Sivart]][[User talk:Sivart345|3]][[Special:Contributions/Sivart345|4]][[User:Firestorm|'''5''']] 20:43, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

== Shiny Egg? ==
If a shiny pokemon has an [[Pokémon egg|egg]], will the pokemon that hatches from the egg be shiny? [[User:Theryguy512|Ryguy]]
:In Generation II, there was a sort of "gene" system where a shiny's offspring would more likely be shiny. However, Generation III got rid of that system. You have the same chances of finding a wild shiny as hatching a shiny, whether the parent was shiny or not.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 22:32, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

==It was the legendary Red Snorlax==
Look, I know Shiny Snorlax are blue, but the Snorlax in [[SS012|''Training Daze]]'' was the legendary Red Snorlax. It wasn't a real Snorlax, because it turns out in the end that the Snorlax was [[Viper]], the Drill Sergeant of the [[Team Rocket Academy]] in disguise.

== Mystery Dungeon Shinies ==

Rumor has it that you can get shinies in Mystery Dungeon 2... specifically, a shiny Celebi mission or something. Anybody have Time Version to back this up? [[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|The]][[Kirlia (Pokémon)|Kirlia]] ♥ [[Image:281MS.gif]] 21:52, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

*You can't get shinies in PMD2, however, you do come across a Shiny Celebi in the future world in the main plot of the game. Otherwise, no, you can't get them. --[[User:Jonouchi|Ricco]] 15:27, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

==Fossils==
Can the revived fossils in Gen IV be shiny if you try enough? Or is it preset when you first give the guy the fossil? [[Image:Ani164MS.gif]][[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny]][[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|?]][[Special:Contributions/Shiny Noctowl|!]] 01:17, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
:If by "try enough" you mean "give him enough fossils". I think it's preset when you give him the fossil, so just save before doing so, give him the fossil, run out, back in, see if it's shiny, soft reset, repeat. '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:29, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

== Shiny ditto ==

If you have a ditto that is shiny and it uses transform does the pokéemon it transforms into be shiny?--[[Image:Ani052MS.gif]][[Image:Ani300MS.gif]][[Image:Ani431MS.gif]][[User:kittenchild|kittenchild and her discovery]][[Image:Ani264MS.gif]] 01:24, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
:Yes. However, if the Pokémon you trasform into is shiny, and Ditto/Mew is not, it'll be regular. {{ani|281}}[[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Sandbox|☆]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Favorites|♥]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]][http://freewebs.com/thepixelcafe δ]{{ani|282}} 01:26, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

will it bread shinny Pokemon? [[User:Cerberus|Cerberus]]
:No. That's only in {{gen|II}}, unfortunatly. I kept breeding my Vaporeon with a shiny Wooper, in hopes that I'd get a shiny Eevee, but 150 eggs later I gave up. Fail! :p [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 16:05, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

No. <big>{{ani|486}}[[User:Tesh|'''TESH''']]{{ani|377}}[[User Talk:Tesh|'''TALK''']]{{ani|378}}[[User:Tesh/Other|'''FUN''']]{{ani|379}}</big> 16:05, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Rats. [[User:Cerberus|Cerberus]] 13:56, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

== Starly clock ==
Wasn't the clock Dawn owned in [[DP001]] a shiny starly??? --[[Image:Spr 3e 059.gif|70px]][[Image:Spr 3e 132.gif]]'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Games|2]]''' [[Image:Trozeiani025.gif]] 01:29, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

So would shiny Noctowl be 光るヨルノズク? [[Image:164sMS.png]][[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny]][[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|?]][[Special:Contributions/Shiny Noctowl|!]] 20:38, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
:Hikaru Yorunozuku? I think so. Google's translation officially says "lucent". however. '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:36, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
::I wouldn't trust Google's translations if my life depended on it. :[--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 05:30, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

== The Prima guides ==

As well as using other non-explicit terms from the game such as [[Effort values]], Volume 2 of the Diamond & Pearl Prima guide mentions ''shiny Pokémon'' and even mentions the possibility of getting those Pokémon easily via the [[Poké Radar]]. I know those guides are authorized by Nintendo because they are sold by [[Pokémon Center (store)|PokemonCenter]]. However, how much of the content is "official"? --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 20:54, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

== Question for G/S/C ==

...do you need a shiny Ditto to pass on shiny genes, or does it work for any shiny '''in Gold and Silver'''? Right now, I'm breeding a male Red Gyarados with a female Dratini, so I can get a shiny one, but halfway through riding on the bike through Route 34 and Goldenrod, I forgot whether shininess is only passed down through a Ditto, or any shiny. Bah! If someone could clear this up for me, it'd be appreciated! [[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/TinaTheKirlia|δ]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]]{{MS|281|Kirlia}} 18:49, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
:Hmmm... I think the shiny gene is passed through any shiny Pokémon. A shiny Ditto is widely used for breeding shinies because it can breed with anything. [[User:Tesh|'''TESHIGIGAS''']] 18:54, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
::Shinyness IS passed on thru anything in GSC. 1/64 chance if both parents are shiny, and 1/256 chance if one is shiny.

== question ==

i have a question
in gen IV, will every trainer see a shiny pokémon ssoner or later?
i had a green and blue tentacool once, but i erased my file
am i done for shiny pokémon?

idk but once i saw a shiny Girafarig once . and i also hatched a shiny happiny. from that happiny egg from the hiker and it was shiny, but once it evolved it was regular. has this ever happened before on pokémon game history, or is it my game, or is it a glitch????0.o

No, you aren't. It's just hard to find a shiny Pokémon. Remember that there is a very small chance of finding one. -Metagross72
:Math says yes.Out of every 65536 pokemon you see, at least 8 of the m should be shiny[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|DCM]]
:Shinies evolve into shinies. Maybe you just thought it was. Another thing could be due to the fact that Chansey and Blissey's shiny sprites aren't spectacularly different from the regulars. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:06, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

==Foreign Aid==

"rare colored Pokemon's Egg can be found little easier"

That line is from http://www.gamefreak.co.jp/blog/dir_english/?p=30 . It talks about the GTS and the benefits of using Pokemon from another country. Among these is "Rare Colored Pokemon's Egg can be found little easier." I'm surprised it isn't noted here yet... does anyone have any additional information?--[[User:PikamasterADV|PikamasterADV]] 04:44, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

OH MY GOD YOURE FREAKING RIGHT!!!! I was surfing on the net and then found this videos!! you gotta watch them!!! this is gonna make us all have shiny pokemon in seconds!!! THANK YOU SOOOO MUCH for mencioning that, I would never know it!! Thank you!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDM6YTICYdA&feature=Responses&parent_video=cqsch18fnG4&index=1 [[User:YukitoOoO|YukitoOoO]] 20:05, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

==I luv Mathmatics==
Someone help me please... I don't understand those complex formulas (sorry). Can someone explain me in english this thing? If I catch a pokemon 25 times (all of them with different personalities) will 1 be shiny or not? [[User:Hfc2x|Hfc2x]] 18:52, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
:The answer is simple. No. It's a one out of 8192 chance of being shiny, not 1 out of 25. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]{{MS|281|Kirlia}} 19:15, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
::But what does a pokemon need to be shiny? (that was the correct question :P) how does the personality affect that? [[User:Hfc2x|Hfc2x]] 19:46, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
:::The personality value is a hidden value anyway; it's not the ''nature''. It determines it, like it determines gender, Wurmple's evolution, and so on. But they're all unrelated. Shininess is also determined by the Trainer's ID number, I believe. So there's likely very few possible gender/final form/nature combos for a shiny Wurmple. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]][[Image:Ani155MS.gif|Fire echy]]''' 20:15, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

== Shiny ==

If a Pokemon is shiny, would it have higher stats than a normal Pokemon, or would they just be just another Pokemon, but a different color? [[User:Zapdos|Zapdos]] 20:58, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
:Only in GS it would have different ("better") stats. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]{{MS|281|Kirlia}} 21:03, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
::Not really "better", just "specific" stats. It'd have all 10's except in Def. and Sp.Def, I think, while the max is 15. In Gen III and IV, though, it has the same random stats any Pokémon does. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]][[Image:Ani155MS.gif|Fire echy]]''' 22:13, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
::: Now that I think about it, shinies in [[Generation II]] aren't all that good. Defense, Speed, Sp. Atk and Sp. Def EVs will be about 10% better, and HP is either average or about 50% worse. --[[User:JDigital|JDigital]] 06:58, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

== Alternate Colouration ==

Shouldn't this link here? Not everyone here uses American English ([[User:GT4GTR|GT4GTR]] 02:43, 4 May 2008 (UTC))
:yes. done. i was talking about this the other day with another user. any more of these, you tell me, i can take care of it in a jiffy. (and other people too really) -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 03:01, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

==Weedle==
wait there was a weedle in the ultimate test that was colored green. is that worth metioning? [[User:ShinyMedicham]]

== Red number colour in Gen IV? ==

I have been Pokésaving some Pokémon so that they are shiny. Can anyone confirm that if the Pokémon is shiny, the colour of the number in their summary page is red?[[User:GJPal|GJ]] 01:29, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
:My shiny Pokémon have red Pokédex numbers, and they aren't hacked. --[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 01:36, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
::Alright, thank you. I just wanted to make sure it wasn't a mistake I made while hacking.[[User:GJPal|GJ]] 01:40, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

== Breeding chance in Gen II ==

I noticed that it says there is as high as a 1/64 chance of breeding a shiny Pokémon in Gen II. I recently hatched 5 eggs in my Silver version. I used a shiny male Gyarados (from the Lake of Rage) and a female Dragonite. When all 5 eggs hatched I had 2 male and 3 female Dratini. The weird thing was that 2 females were shiny. If the chances are really 1/64 than the odds of that happening are about 1/430. With only 5 samples, its not enough info to say whether this was just luck or maybe our hypotheses about breeding need to be looked over. Any thoughts? [[User:Stewy5714|Stewy5714]] 15:31, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

:Lucky. I doubt that means the chances are different.--[[User:Starlight the ampharos|Starlight the ampharos]] 17:48, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

== Shiny legendary pokémon? ==

Is it possible to get a shiny legendary without cheating or a promotional event? Or are all normally obtainable legendaries a fixed color?

:Legendary Pokémon have the same rate of being shiny as any other Pokémon. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 16:26, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

:You just have to try a few times until you battle a shiny legendary... well a little more than a few times LOL xD '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 03:19, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

When is the shininess or nonshininess of a legendary decided? When you battle the legendary or before? i.e. if I battle a legendary, lose, turn off the game, whaever, and reload, would there be a chance of it being an alternate color the second time?

It really is not worth trying. Do you have any idea how long you would potentially have to play? You could play for three weeks without sleep of constantly battling the legendary, turning the game off and all that and still not get that shiny legendary. The chace is 1 in 8192....that doesn't mean you can battle it 8191 times and 8192nd one with DEFINATELY be shiny. Its a 1 in 8192 chance every time. Whenever I come across someone with a shiny legendary, it's common sense to assume they hacked it.[[User:Bttsstewart|Bttsstewart]] 05:50, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

: :( I got a legit Shiny Heatran after 2 hours. It's definitely possible. --12:12, 16 April 2009 (UTC)[[User:~Poke~|~Poke~]]

I'll take your word for it but when someone battles you, they'll assume it's hacked...That must have taken ages, but you won't get any credit for it. Too bad....:-( [[User:Bttsstewart|Bttsstewart]] 09:23, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
: [http://www.gamefaqs.com/portable/ds/file/960099/57737 this guide] (section G002) suggests that Legendary personality values are set when the game is started (i.e., save file created), but I'm not sure that's true. The page doesn't mention it so i'll assume it's false, but does anyone know for certain?
::It isn't. In my soulsilver, I found a shiny Ho-oh, but my game froze. When I restarted, it was normal, and I was sad. [[User:Gliscorguy54|Gliscorguy54]] 01:03, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

::: Actually, when you start a new game, the game decides which [[PID]]s "are shiny". This means that there are some pre-determined PIDs that are shiny. When I checked my game (ID: 18287, SID: 31401) using Project Pokémon's PID-IV Generator, there were at least 10,000 (I gave up after that) shiny PIDs. I've been considered lucky, because I have encountered '''lots''' of shiny Pokémon (some in my old save file). I have a shiny Lugia, Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, Deoxys, and Shaymin. I soft reseted each one about three times each (thirty at most if I'm "unlucky"). I am going to trade my Shiny Bidoof and Shiny Bronzong when it's possible. Look for the OT Kaipo. [[User:8o8 Dark|-- 8o8 Dark]] 05:54, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

== Kecleon ==

Why is Kecleon mentioned here? Read the Pokédex description. It's perfectly normal for a Kecleon to be any colour, as long as its zigzag is red. It's normal behaviour for a Kecleon. --[[User:Someone Else|Someone Else]] 00:37, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
:Due to body camouflage. The purple one is most certainly not camouflaging. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:10, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

== Orange Islands ==

Is it worth mentioning the Pokémon from the Orange Islands in the Animé? Some of the Pokémon were coloured (and patterned) differently so would that count? --☆[[User:Woodland Mudkip|Woodland:M]] ☆ 10:05, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

:Not really.--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''Pika''']][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|'''chu!''']] 10:05, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

::Do you mean the pink ones? If so, then no, they don't count. They weren't shiny. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|electAbuzzzz]] ([[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|TALK]]) 10:08, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Maybe! They might be referring to the Vileplume and Butterfree in Pokéball Peril--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 12:05, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
:Yes - I mean the Pokémon at professor Ivy's lab. She said they were different due to the climate or something. This article doesn't just talk about shinies so it seems relevant. --☆[[User:Woodland Mudkip|Woodland:M]] ☆ 22:51, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
::Remember guys, who makes the rules... THE GAMES! This article exist because of the shiny Pokémon exist in the games, and THEN they existed in the anime. The orange islands Pokémon are not the same as shiny, so it's not relevant to put it in the article. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 00:05, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Since when? We mention the purple Kecleon yet its not in the games. This doesn't mean "shiny only". It means Pokémon that are a color that they aren't usually. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 02:07, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

== Reliability of sprites? ==

Just an odd question; are the shiny sprites for each Pokémon completely legitimate? I remember when I was younger playing Crystal version I found a red Caterpie, though Caterpie are said to be gold whilst shiny. My friend also tells me she has a maroon Luvdisc, although I don't know how reliable that information is since I've never seen it. [[User:Gabbie|Gabbie]] 00:05, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
:All sprites have been taken from inside the game data (at least the ones which I've uploaded), so I can tell you they're reliable. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 00:44, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

I can hack games and see the sprites in the roms and each Pokémon only gets one normal sprite and back sprite and one shiny sprite and back sprite and none of the sprites you say exist are in any Pokémon games.Darkmaster0 00:57, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

The colours could be messed up by a glitch. I've seen a glitched yellow and green Remoraid before, even though they're usually either blue or purple. -- [[User:Umbee|Umbee]] 21:56, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

I too used to have a red Caterpie on Crystal... [[User:Me, Hurray!|Me, Hurray!]] 15:03, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

== Sprites missing ==

Here are a few facts that surprised me. We don't have shiny sprites for {{p|Goldeen}} or {{p|Torchic}}!

Also, not so surprisingly, we don't have sprites for Shiny Unowns BCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ!?, but this is understandable, as we have hardly any Unown sprites at all.

Do the sprites not exist or were they simply missed? [[User:Gligar|Gli]][[User talk:Gligar|gar]] 19:52, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

:Not all sprites have been uploaded. It's simply work in progress. You're welcome to help upload missing sprites - I upload some every once in a while... --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|electAbuzzzz]] ([[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|TALK]]) 19:54, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

== Pokemon Stadium ==

This says they could have "slightly" different colors. xD That made me laugh. The color variations in Stadium and (especially) Stadium 2 could be anywhere from miniscule to OUTRAGEOUS. I swear on Tajiri's grave I had a female Nidoran (actually Spot, from the boy south of Cerulean) who throughout her life looked male on Stadium 2. As a Nidoqueen, this became far worse than ever before, as she became a perfect shade of Nidoking purple with the teal ears, and a lighter creamy pastel teal for her face/torso accents. x3 Spot was awesome, lol. Incidentally, as the same NidoranF could be obtained on any Red or Blue, I tried it with a couple different game paks and never got another with her colors.

Poliwag were another one that was awesome. Typically for me, their skin ranged from teal to bright purple, while their lips could be any color of the rainbow. xD I had two full boxes on Stadium 2 of stored Poliwag just seeing how many different ones I could find. x3 Man, good ol' Stadium, neh? [[User:Heart of Thorns|Heart of Thorns]] 07:29, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
:Ahha. I haven't played Stadium in a very long time, but damn do i remember the strange colors some would come out with. I might have had a glitchy game or something, i mean, if i remember rightly i had a yellow-y green Charmander at some point *sighs* Ah, good times. [[User:Takoto|~~Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 09:17, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

== Ho-Oh Error ==

"The first Pokémon with its official alternate coloration seen was also the first Generation II Pokémon to be seen, a Ho-Oh seen by Ash in the first episode."

This sentence, from the way I read it, seems to claim that the first shiny Pokémon in the anime to match its alternate coloration in the games is the Ho-Oh in the first episode. Correction: Ho-Oh was covered entirely in a golden aura; We have no way of telling whether this is actually an alternate coloration or not. While one could argue that the colors we do see are not the same as its regular colors in-game, the depicted coloration isn't identical to its "official" shiny form either. It's just a Ho-Oh with a fully golden appearance due to the aura surrounding it. [[User:Marlowe|Marlowe]] 03:42, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

= I agree, There is no evidence that it was 'officially' "alternate colored" (however you Americans spell colour) ([[User:GT4GTR|GT4GTR]] 23:11, 25 December 2008 (UTC))

==Shiny Issue==
There is also a shiny Seaking in the FR/LG Trainer Tower, as shown in another page in Bulbapedia. The problem is, I can't undo the little box around it, and I didn't do anything to add it. Please just remove that, and it'll be good. Thanks,--[[User:Mence Master|Mence Master]] 01:04, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
EDIT: Disregard, it undid it by itself. Or another user helped out, but whatever, it's good now.
:For the record, that happens when you place a space before text:
like so.
[[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 01:10, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Okay,thanks.

Now onto that little Toxicroak Debate.

==Toxicroak Debate==
There was a blue one in Giratina and the Sky Warrior.
And no, it wasn't JUST the filter. It was the Toxicroak's coloration.
[http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk284/SRkid/Picture3.png]
If you look closely, it is blue.
::Actually, that really looks like the filter. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 15:12, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

:::I don't really think the filter is causing the Toxicroak to look normal-colored. I seriously believe that, behind the filter, lies an honest-to-goodness normal-coloration Toxicroak. Trust me, I don't think putting a filter of that color over a Toxicroak colored like Saturn's would result in that coloration...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 15:15, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
::::Hmm, it does look like SP252 was right...where is this Toxicroak in the whole movie anyway...? '''[[User:Optimatum|Θρtιmαtum]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]] 15:19, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::I think that would be the intro. But this doesn't mean that the other Toxicroak are definitely shiny. [[User:Jmath|'''Jm''']][[User talk:Jmath|'''a''']][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|'''th''']] 17:45, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::Well, there's a Torterra there too, and is THAT blue?--[[User:Mence Master|Mence Master]] 21:50, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
::Ah, this isn't objective proof, however. If the Toxicroak was in a normal appearance, and not floating around under idle showcasing for points unknown, there could be an argument (but no, not really). Instead, I can point out that the color filter does make some of the pokémon look off-color. That Bibarel just before is practially ''rosy'' compared to its normal brown, and Bonsly is a faint gold-green instead of its normal brown (not that I'm saying Toxicroak is affected by this; the difference would have been slighter and not several shades removed). That, and there's no way of saying that neither production teams didn't take liberties: series folk made its normal form with the shiny variation, and movie folk either ignored that or didn't realize and used its normal colors as they should be.

::Again, this isn't proof. At all. You're looking for ordinary coloring in the series. Movies don't cut it to make your argument, since the animation and those behind it are vastly diferent as a whole. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 14:11, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

:::First of all, that picture looks like crap. You can't tell anything from it. I saw the perfect quality version of the movie and it still looks like the coloration of Saturns. Shiningpikablu252, give it up already! It's NOT shiny. It's the anime colors, and learn to accept it. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 04:01, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

== Alternate coloration or shiny ==

Which is correct? Because by defenition, Alternate coloration means differently colored. Any Pokémon that's not it's original color should be in a page about '''DIFFERENTLY COLORED ''' Pokémon. Shiny is the unaverage coloration of a Pokémon in a Pokémon game, if im not mistaken. I think this page should have a different name (Like "Shiny Pokémon") [[User:ShinyPikachu|ŚĥîΠŶPî₭₳ĉĥŭ]] 02:28, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

: "Alternate Coloration" Is the offical term used in-game. "Shiny" is the fanmade term. In a wiki that's supposed to be informative, the offical term takes precedence over fanmade ones. [[User:PDL|PDL]] 03:46, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
::"Shiny" is also an official term :
::http://www.pixenli.com/image1237763589075416100.html [[User:Froggy25|Froggy25]] 23:14, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
:::See [http://www.pokemon.com/#mailbag_03122009 here].--'''[[User:Prmatt11|''Mew'']]* [[User talk:Prmatt11|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Prmatt11|Prmatt11]]'''at 17:48, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

== Shiny Metagross or Noctowl ==

OK, Instead of having an edit war. Talk about it in the discussion. Its easier and better.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 22:40, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
:Noctowl already has a page; I say Metagross. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Is teh Pedia laggin 4 u 2?]] 22:44, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
::Why does it matter if it 'already had a page'??? It's still the most commonly known shiny, and shows the whole body of the Pokémon, not just the face. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User Talk:Theryguy512|512]]''' 22:45, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
:::Anyone can see the {{AP|shiny Noctowl's|Noctowl}} and page see the pic there. We would like to give chance to others that doesn't have their own page, such as shiny Metagross and Donphan. Theryguy also has a point; we should show the whole body, not just the face. '''►[[User:Kevzo8|Ҝə]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|υz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|ø8]]''' 22:52, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
::::We do need a better pic.... [[User:J-J-M|'''J''']]'''-'''[[User talk:J-J-M|'''J''']]'''-'''[[Special:Contributions/J-J-M|'''M''']] 22:58, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

== Shiny egg sent to a different game ==

If Shinyness it determined by personality value and trainer/secret ID what happens if you bred a shiny egg in one game, reset the game to before it hatched and traded to another game. The Pokémon will have a new OT so would the game recalculate it's shinyness based on the new trainer/secret ID or will it remember it was shiny in the other game and therefore hatch shiny? [[User:Jmvb|Jmvb]] 16:39, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
:It recalculates, since the Shiny condition is determined by the {{tt|OT's|hatching Trainer's}} Trainer & Secret IDs, and then the personality value. While the personality value is determined when the egg is received from the Day Care Man, the other parts of the equation depend on who hatches it. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<sc>Kogoro</sc>''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<sc>Talk to me</sc>''']] - 16:53, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

== {{p|Jigglypuff}}??? ==
Aren't [[Little Pink]] and the {{p|Jigglypuff}} from [[AG138]] shiny??? They both have green eyes just like their shiny forms.
<gallery perrow=3>
File:Marina.gif|[[Little Pink]]
File:AG138 126.jpeg|The {{p|Jigglypuff}} from [[AG138]]
File:Spr 4d 039 s.png|A shiny {{p|Jigglypuff}}
</gallery>
--'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User Talk:Theryguy512|512]]''' 00:37, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
:[[Jigglypuff (Pokémon)#Trivia|It isn't really a unique thing...]]--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[User talk:RexRacer|Racer''']] 00:41, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
::But still, they're not the normal coloration like {{an|Jigglypuff|a regular Jigglypuff}}. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User Talk:Theryguy512|512]]''' 01:06, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

== That Table.... ==

I say we update it a bit more, Why don't we add the pictures of the shiny Pokémon in the table? Or will this be a major flop?--[[User:Force Fire|FF]]([[Special:Contributions/Force Fire|edits]]•[[User talk:Force Fire|talk]]) 06:51, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
:Do it. Roundycorners as well. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 07:02, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
::done. Images need to be added.--[[User:Force Fire|FF]]([[Special:Contributions/Force Fire|edits]]•[[User talk:Force Fire|talk]]) 07:24, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

== Shiny Ditto ==

Will a shiny ditto transform into shiny subjects?

== Mewtwo's Color, and i'm not colorblind ==

In mewtwo's alternate color sprites its green, but my alt color mewtwo is black.
Granted i got it through a brainboy, it still should be green shouldn't it?

I mean i get a pink/purple Celebi and all the other pokemon are what they should be, but why is mewtwo black? Its even black in Stadium II.

So what's up, even if the sprites somehow got messed up, how would it make the stadium mewtwo black as well. Did who ever rip the sprites somehow mess up the colors? [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 20:16, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
:For some reason, a shiny Mewtwo appears black in Stadium 2. I've noticed this as well a long time ago. I'm not sure of the reasons though. Color coding problems maybe. Would make interesting trivia though. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 20:23, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
:: Its not just stadium though, it was on all three games (G/S/C) for me. Why would it appear on the GBC screen as black as well?

:: I would add that but every time i try to add something, someone usually tries to remove it often playing the speculation card even thought a vast majority of whats on here is left to speculation. [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 20:37, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Believe me. I had a shiny Mewtwo in GSC through my own stupidity. It's green, Yami. You can't deny game sprites. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:41, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

::::I'm not debating it, I'm just wondering why mine were black on both the GBC screen and stadium 2 in both the 3D stadium and during Gameboy Mode. I'm not sure how we obtained these sprites, but could there have been some corruption either on the ripper of the sprites end. Or is its on my end because i mutated a red gyarados into the mewtwo. [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 20:47, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::I can't explain that... I just know that Mewtwo is black in Stadium 2 3D. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 20:49, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

:::::So should we add that little trivia, i mean we have you and me who can vouch for Mewtwo being black in the stadium 2. [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 20:54, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
::::::Yeah I'll do it. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 20:58, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

:Unlike most others, I might know the reason to this. While I don't know how it works in the Generation II games, I know how it works in the Gen III games, and it should hypothetically work in a similar way in the Gen II games. Anyways, due to the data structure in those games, a sprite can oly have accessibility to a certain, preprogrammed combination of 16 colors at a time. Due to this, there are over 1500 (!) combinations of colors possible, for each sprite, and also has the positions of their colors possible. While the data normally gives the Pokémon, upon first encounter, it gives them combination #596, the normal color, with a slight chance of combination #597, the alternate color, appearing. If the game is hacked or cheated to let a Pokémon of another combination appear it will, ofcourse, appear in that color. Hypothetically, it should work in a similar way in the Gen II games. If so, there's a possibility is that they added all thos colors to Stadium to prevent crashing the game if that Pokémon would be sent to it. - ''unsigned comment from {{u|Pokémon Lover King Mario}} ([[User talk:Pokémon Lover King Mario|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pokémon Lover King Mario|contribs]]) ''

== Mesuda Method ==

I have been seeing things on the web about the "Masuda Method". Supposedly the chance of receiving a shiny pokemon is 1/2048 when you hatch an egg if the parents are from different countries. I have no proof of this, however as it is not on the talk pages yet, I was wondering if anyone here could confirm whether this is true or not. The original post that started this is here http://www.gamefreak.co.jp/blog/dir_english/?p=30. - ''unsigned comment from {{u|Link3710}} ([[User talk:Link3710|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Link3710|contribs]]) ''
:We actually have an article about that. I should know, {{tt|I wrote most of it|so if it's wrong let me know - I haven't experienced this for myself}}! It just isn't linked to by anywhere yet.... I'll get to it xD — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 08:30, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

== Colosseum and XD ==
Is it possible for the pokemon you snag in Pokemon Colosseum and Pokemon XD to be Shiny? If so, how is it indicated on the status screen and when they are released. I was so convinced my Growlithe in XD was shiny but it was just a light color and ultraballs give yellow goldy orange stars when they are released... it really bummed me out because I thought it was the first shiny I have ever seen and Owned... -- [[User:D558|D558]] 00:21, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

If it is shiny then the text in it summary should be yellow instead of white, there will also be a short animation after being sent into battle. It should also be noted on this page that some shiny pokemon are completely different than in the main games, for example I have a shiny Heracross that is blue with darker coloured eyes & a pink stomach as opposed to main games shiny Heracross which are pink all over with normal eyes, Voltorb is also a different, being very very dark blue (almost black) with a light blue base, while shiny Electrode is no different to those in the main games. [[User:Vuvuzela2010|Vuvuzela2010]] 21:06, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
--Also I thought I should add that Shadow Lugia & Bonsly do not have shiny forms in XD, if they are made to be shiny with cheats or that 1 in 1000000 chance of being shiny they will still have the shiny animation but they will not appear any different & their battle pictures & box sprites & purification set animations will be the same, though Shadow Lugia will become appear shiny when purified. While Munchlax can be hacked, it dosent have any of the above in its regular or shiny form & the game will crash if sent into battle.

== The term "shiny" confirmed as official? ==

The GTS tutorial at http://www.pokemon-gts.net/gtstutorial/en-US/ has a page about [[Masuda method]]. This page refers to Shiny Pokémon - is this the first time an official English source uses this term? (Go to Trading Pokémon over GTS, then GTS features, then page 5 to see the reference.) '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 13:54, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
:Oh yeah, I don't have a clue when that tutorial thingie came first there, but I'm absolutely sure it wasn't there a couple of weeks ago. Had to go to check if they had anything interesting there :D '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 14:04, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
::Pokémon.com's mailbag's used the term more than once. It would seem that if Shiny Pokémon is a fan tern, it's one that Nintendo recognizes, which is rare. I think the term is official. Shall I move the page to "Shiny Pokémon"? [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 14:16, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
:::I'd vote for moving the page, though I don't know if the page move should go first through an admin (since this is a fairly often-linked page, over 500 pages link here). '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 14:18, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
::::The way I see it, while we fix the links, the current page is gonna be a redirect anyway. I don't see why not, official websites have used the term, so.... Yeah, I'll move the page. If it gets reverted, then we'll leave it. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 16:05, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

:::::Actually, are the usages of "shiny" in the Mailbag in the questions only, or do they appear in the answers as well? If it's the former, then the page should absolutely NOT be moved from "alternate coloration". As far as I can tell, "alternate coloration" is indeed the official terminology, and there's very little that would say otherwise. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 16:43, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::I don't know about those, but the GTS tutorial, which I believe to be official Nintendo material, uses the term "shiny", and that was the sole point of my original question whether that should be considered official. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 16:49, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::About the mailbag, it was the answers that used the term. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 17:30, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Interesting. The URL of the ad for the Pikachu-colored Pichu promotion contains the word "shiny": http://www.pokemon.com/us/special/shiny_pichu
Also, check out "The Prima guides" section of this talk page. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 20:09, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

== The Title Dispute ==
I disagree with the move for one reason: shiny is only focusing on shiny Pokemon. Alternate coloration can imply any other colors of Pokemon such as [[Pink Butterfree]]. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 16:25, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

== In the Anime ==

I think we ought to have a [[List of Shiny Pokémon in the anime]], in which we can go more in-depth on them than we do in this article. What say you people? [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 13:24, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
:<s>Missingno. Master, I agree with you, but we have a section about it. And if we were to add such a page, Do you have any idea how small It would be? And how could we get more in depth?</s> Tought it through and Sounds like a good idea to me. :D [[User talk: ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']] 00:56, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
::Don't we already have one? --[[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 00:58, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
:::No, but we have a section, on the page. We do need {{tt|more|some}} Information about these Pokémon. Hell, ''I'' don't know what the Metegross from ''Noodle's: Roaming off!'' has to do with the storyline at all. Besides, the page doesn't even have a bit of info about these Pokémon at all. [[User talk: ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']] 01:06, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Exactly the reason I suggested this. Editing the information on them into the page would make it even bigger than it is. In fact, I think I might start on this page right now. Well, actually, not yet. Perhaps tomorrow... [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 01:25, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

== Shiny ==

I have saw a shiny {{p|Sharpedo}} on the GTS before.Also,I caught a shiny {{p|Bidoof}},(I didn`t use Action Replay when i caught it).I have a big question,If I have a male shiny and a regular female,what would be the odds that the offspring is shiny.[[User:LucarioWolf|The Aura Wolf !!!!]] 12:23, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
:The odds are the same in Generations III and IV. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 12:44, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
::The odds wouldn't change, even if the parents are both shiny. The chances of gettin a shiny egg are the same as findin one in the wild. Unless, of course, your usin Platinum. [[User talk: ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']] 17:21, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
:Actually, I just remembered about the Masuda Method. If that Sharpedo is foreign or breeds with a foreign Pokémon, the odds will decrease in Generation IV. And what do you mean about using Platinum ShinyPikachu? [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 17:55, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
::Look on Plt's page. See where it mentions about the PRNG (pesudo-random number generator) being "broken' making it easier to breed shiny Pokémon? [[User talk: ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']] 18:06, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

== First gen. ==

I heard if you trade a Pokemon from a first generation game to a second generation game, or transfer a Pokemon from a first generation game to Stadium 2, they might appear as shiny. That's true, right, due to shininess being attributed to IVs? On an unrelated side note, Jigglypuffs "straw hat"..Isn't that Leaf's hat? I don't own Brawl, so I wouldn't know, but I heard it is. [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 23:45, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
:Yes and yes. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:02, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

== Colored vs Shiny ==

Maybe we should just have a separate page for color variations that are in the anime that don't correspond to "shininess"? It's implied, IIRC, that pokemon come in a range of colors in the anime, such as the Orange Islands pokemon. [[User:Yamikuronue|Yamikuronue]] 15:33, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
:This page was once known as alternate coloration, which included all of this. Would it be reasonable to revert the move? [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 15:41, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
::It should be... but when Missingno Master (I believe) moved it, all users decided that everything should be that way and thus changed all the links... we could undo and what not if we can find the changes. However, I think an admin would need to confirm this. Missingno Master approved of reverting the move, so... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 14:17, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Let's have a new vote. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 14:20, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
::::I don't think it's necessary though... just as I said before, Missingno Master moved it, and then agreed to what I said. It's [[User talk:Missingno. Master/Archive10#Redirect|here]]. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 18:13, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::So split it into 2 pages? [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 18:49, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::That's a different matter, now isn't it? Personally, I think that the second page is necessary I guess... I mean, we have a link to alternately colored Pokémon in the anime. It seems a tad bit out of place. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 19:01, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::: MM said "Yeah, that's true. Maybe make another page for Pokémon that are oddly colored, but not shiny" so isn't that the same matter? [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 19:05, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Subpage then? Shiny is considered alternate-colored I guess... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 19:07, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::So these are the situations: 1. move back 2. split into 2 pages or make subpage out of shiny 3. Remove all alternate coloration references that aren't shiny in the page. I think 1 is the best as shiny is alternate coloration. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 19:10, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::Shininess is, IMO, a cause of alternate coloration - as opposed to, say, natural variation or berries, which are both anime-only. [[User:Yamikuronue|Yamikuronue]] 23:33, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

== Shiny vs. shiny ==

VGC website uses "Shiny", but should we? It just seems... odd. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:33, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
:TTE, what about Spiky? Are we still deciding whether it's -eared or -Eared? I mean, it's up to you, but we've been used to the former for a while. Same scenario here as well. I say revert though for both. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 01:52, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
::I think we should wait for another source. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 02:20, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
:::That's the thing. We have so many sources even within the Pokémon.com system which has different spellings. It's up to us to decide in a sense. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 02:47, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
::::Oh. I'm gonna have to go with shiny. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 02:50, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::Just sent TPCi an e-mail asking about this.--'''[[User:Immewnity|''immewnity'']][[User talk:Immewnity|the]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|mew]]''' 21:00, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

== Trivia ==

I do not understand: ''The Pokédex, when checked through the menu, never shows shiny variants of a Pokémon... However, if a Pokémon is first caught with an alternate color, the Pokédex entry that comes after the catch will show the Pokémon with its alternate colors in the corner.'' [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 03:02, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

I think it may refer to a certain Pokédex, but I don't get it either. [[User:Swampert Man|Swampert Man]][[User talk:Swampert Man|''Swampert'']] [[Special:Contributions/Swampert Man|''is Awesome!'']] 03:06, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
:It means that if you manually look up the entry it will show the normal colouration, whether you have seen the normal colours or not. However if the first one you see is shiny and you catch it, then the entry that is automatically displayed will show the shiny sprite. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 03:08, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
::That doesn't seem to be the case when traded though, right? Just clarifying here, what with the event Pichu I received. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 03:10, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
:::I don't know, I haven't got around to transfering PCP over yet. I just remember seeing someone explain it somewhere. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 03:32, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

== Shiny Stats ==

I've heard plenty of myths and talk saying a shiny Pokémon is stronger than a regular Pokémon of the same species. For example, a shiny Zubat will have higher stats than a regular Zubat of the same level, nature, EV's and IV's etc. Is this true? [[User:FrozenStrategy|FrozenStrategy]] 21:11, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
:No. The reason this myth came about was because in generation II a shiny Pokémon had to have specific IVs, which were better than average, although still not brilliant. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 21:37, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

== Colosseum/XD Shiny Differences ==

I found a german website which shows the differences between Shiny Pokemon in Col/XD & the normal games, for example shiny Kecleon in the main games look no different except for having a blue stripe, but the Col/XD ones are yellow with light blue markings [http://www.pokewiki.de/Kecleon], Voltorb is very very dark blue, almost black [http://www.pokewiki.de/Voltobal], Mantine is dark green [http://www.pokewiki.de/Mantax], Heracross is blue & pink with darker eyes [http://www.pokewiki.de/Skaraborn], Staryu is green/brown [http://www.pokewiki.de/Sterndu], etc. shouldnt this be added either to this page or to the pages of each Pokemon? {{unsigned|Vuvuzela2010}}

==Abra Cadabra Alakazam... Shiny?==
Hey if u catch a legit shiny abra or someone with synchronize, will that make more pokemon u see shiny? Does having Synchronize increase chances of shinies? My bro got Shiny mew (would he affect anything?) on GTS and found a legit one in the safari zone, he is so lucky. Does walking one make a lesser or higher chance? Is there really a way to find shinies due to your id no? ----[[User:Desukaan563|Desukaan563's userpage has a Value Formula to measure Pokémon worth]] ''([[User talk:Desukaan563|talk]])'' 08:06, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
:Having a Shiny Pokémon with Synchronize does not affect the encounter rate of other Shiny Pokémon. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:11, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

==Nominated for FAC!!!==
Hey! I made this article a Featured Article Nominee! U can discuss this at http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Talk:Shiny_Pok%C3%A9mon/Featured_article_candidate ! What do u think? ----[[User:Desukaan563|Desukaan563's userpage has a Value Formula to measure Pokémon worth]] ''([[User talk:Desukaan563|talk]])'' 11:32, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
: How come It wont let me edit the page that is supporting it be a featured article? [[User:Mesuxelf|[[User:Mesuxelf|Mesprit]], [[User talk:Mesuxelf|Uxie]], [[User:Mesuxelf|Azelf]]. Mesuxelf ]] 22:53, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
::Because the voting stage for this period is closed. The nominated articles must now be discussed by the Editorial Board. Also, you might want to check the ''treat signature as wikitext (without automatic link)'' box in your preferences ;) [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 01:25, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

==FAC talk request==

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In the FAC talk it was requested for some kind of random Shiny Pokémon template. While I don't know if the idea is good, here is an example of what it would look like. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 03:59, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

== Hidden power ==
I read on the Hidden power page that in Gen II, shiny pokemon HP types could only be dragon or grass. Could someone please insert this? [[User:S and T|S and T]] 00:52, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

==Manga?==
I can't be the only one who has noticed this so I thought I would ask why there is no manga section in this article. This article is incoplete, yet it is a nominee for a featured article. Is there a reason that the manga has not been added?--'''[[User:EpicShadow|Epic]][[User talk:EpicShadow|Shadow]]''' 16:05, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
:Yes, this is one of my main objections against featuring this article. There should be a manga section. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 14:00, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
::Well, if someone could add one (though there isn't much mention of shinyness in the magna), that would be useful, though i doubt we need one, due to them being so uncommon in the magna.----[[User:Desukaan563|Desukaan563's userpage has a Value Formula to measure Pokémon worth]] ''([[User talk:Desukaan563|talk]])'' 09:54, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
Well I suppose but what Shiny Pokémon appeared in the Manga other then Silver's Red Gyarados? [[User:Mr.Char|Mr.Char]] 23:55, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

== Mismagius ==

Could it be argued that Kodai's Mismagius is alternately colored because of the long extensions on it's body? [[User:Mr.Char|Mr.Char]] 00:31, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

== What does this mean? ==

"Pikachu-colored Pichu, however, displays a sparkle effect almost identical to that one in the games for Shiny Pokémon. " What does this mean? In like 'Get Fired Up Notched Eared Pichu' the Pikachu Colored Pichu sparkles?

== Statistical probability ==

I did some research: for fixed Trainer ID and Secret ID (mine and those of my pals) I generated up to 100'000'000 random PIDs (though I used normal RNG method, not [[Pseudo-random number generation in Pokémon|GF's one]]) and my results are following: for most TID and SID pair chance of encountering shiny {{tt|stabilizes|coverges/tends}} to approximately 0.025%, in rare cases up to 0.04%. Is it somehow worth mentioning? — ∀<tt>[[User:ЫъГЬ|ЫъГѣ]] ∃[[User_talk:ЫъГЬ|Talk page]]</tt> 18:06, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

== Trivia ==

"A Shiny Zigzagoon was given to games from an interactive demo to fix the Berry Glitch. " Shouldn't this be added to the trivia on this page? [[User:Mr.Char|Mr.Char]] 23:59, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

== Gen V Pokedex note ==

Under the header "Generations III, IV, and V", it says: ''"In Generation V, Pokémon in the Pokédex will appear Shiny if the first specimen of that Pokémon encountered is Shiny."'' This is only partly true. The Pokémon that displays on the main page of your Pokédex is, ''by default'', the first specimen that you encountered. So, for example, if you meet a male Frillish and then a female Jellicent (as I did), then you will have a blue Frillish followed by a pink Jellicent. However, you can change what Pokémon is displayed. So if it bothers you to have a blue Frillish followed by a Pink Jellicent (as it bothered me), you can fix it so both entries are pink or both entries are blue (alternately you can show off your shinies, set entries to non-shiny, etc.). Here are the steps for changing what Pokémon is displaye on the main page of your Pokédex:
1 -- Go into your Pokédex and find the Pokémon whose sprite you want to change.
2 -- Click (A). This should take you to a page where, along the bottom, there are 4 buttons that read: (INFO)(AREA)(CRY)(FORMS)
3 -- Click left on the D-pad and then (A).
4 -- If you have encountered more than 1 form of the Pokémon, then there should now be 2 sprites next to each other. If you have encountered 3 or more forms, you can press left and right to see more forms.
5 -- When you find the sprite you want to be displayed on the main page of the Pokédex, press (A) once more. This should cause the sprites to swap places.
6 -- Press (B) twice.
7 -- Marvel at your beautified Pokédex!
I'm timid about editing the page directly, but hopefully someone else will be able to use this information to decide what to do about that note.
[[User:Pdrydia|Pdrydia]] 17:49, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Shiny Pokémon/Archive 1

2011-04-17T17:49:09Z

Pdrydia:

==Ratio==
> can someone explain the ratio thing with the xor an everything? [[User:Squeela|this S**T will turn your mama white]] 16:18, 14 November 2008 (UTC)squeela[[User:Squeela| this S**T will turn your mama white]] 16:18, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

>In the TCG, shiny Pokémon are called "shining" Pokémon.

Yes and no. There's "shining" cards, "crystal" cards, and the new ones that don't have a collecive name but are denoted by a star on them (so are commonly called "stars" or "shining stars")- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Blackjack Gabbiani|Blackjack Gabbiani]] ([[User talk:Blackjack Gabbiani|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Blackjack Gabbiani|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''

:Crystal cards had the same Pokemon coloring as regular ones. "Shining" was the official name and i don't know why people use that crappy "shiny" word... --[[User:AtoMan|AtoMan]] 10:17, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

>If you evolve a shiny pokemon, will it stay shiny? [[User:Therequiembellishere|Therequiembellishere]] 19:05, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Yes, although sometimes the coloration of it will change. Shiny Charmeleon changes from off-red to a black Charizard, for instance. --[[User:Zeta|Zeta]] 21:05, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

It's the same as a red Charmeleon becoming an orange Charizard. Regular becomes regular, shiny becomes shiny. It's another status like the nature. [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 00:05, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry but the {{p|Kecleon}} seen in [[EP205]] is not a shiny pokémon. To my knowledge an alternate colored Kecleon is turquoise not purple. -- {{u|Kenji-girl}}

: If it's not a normally-coloured Pokémon it must, logically, be an alternately-coloured Pokémon. It doesn't matter if it doesn't match the precise alternate colouration of the games. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 10:45, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

::Technically, yes; "alternately colored" means, technically, it's simply a different color. "Shiny" is a different story, however. [[User:Urutapu|Urutapu]] 18:27, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

:Those purple Kecleon are like that because... they're Kecleon, simple as it sounds. Not sure how to word it in the article, but it's not surprising that a chameleon Pokémon can have color variations, either because the interpretation of its traits is to blend with its surroundings (field Kecleon, pinball, anime) or changing its type via {{a|Color Change}}. This is too similar to discussing [[Smeargle (Pokémon)#Pokédex entries|the Crystal Pokédex entry for Smeargle]] --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 20:54, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Well, as there is said, every trainer has his own IDtrainer, which can be seen, and secret IDsecret , which can't be seen anywhere (that's why it's called secret).
Then, Pokémon has its own personality value, which is represented by 32 bits (all of them either 1 or 0). As you can read about it [[personality value#Shininess|here]].
E is the amount of ''ID'' xor ''ID2'' (the trainer's ID and the secret ID), while F is ''(the first 16 digits)'' xor ''(the second 16 digits)''. Then if E xor F is less than 8, the Pokémonis shiny.
But what that "xor" is? Good question. Xor is a mathematical function, that will compare two numbers (it should work only in binary) and:
- if the numbers are the same (either 1/1 or 0/0), the result is 0
- if the numbers are different (either 1/0 or 0/1, what's technically teh same case)
the result is 0.
Now, the first 16 digits of personality value in binary xor the second 16 digits will logically give number with 16 digits.
Both IDtrainer and IDsecret have 16 digits, thus the result will have 16 digits as well.
Now, when we did IDtrainer xor IDsecret and got the first number with 16 digits (E) and we first 16 digits xor second 16 digits (F), we do E xor F. If the results is less than 8, the Pokémon will be shiny.
The chance of this happening is 1/8192 as said everywhere, because the highest number with 16 digits in binary is 65 535 in decimal, plus 1 one (0). As said before, "the Pokémon is shiny if the result less than 8", thus there are 8 solutions out of thos 65536 possible. 8/65 536 = 1/8192, what is approximately about 0,0001220703125%. --KingisNitro

==Breeding chance in Gen IV==
Though I haven't found any definite sources, apparently the odds of breeding a shiny pokemon to have a shiny offspring is 1/8192, as much as finding a regular shiny. Is this true? If so, this renders Shiny dittos practically useless. [[User:Razor|Razor]] 07:18, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

: As useless as shiny Pokemon are regularly, but yes. It's the same odds as it would be with a regular Pokemon. --[[User:Porygon|Porygon]] 09:44, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

::Though really, a shiny Pokémon is no more useless than a regular one, since it's no longer determined on stats. --'''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 17:44, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

the chances are exactly the same - its only in GSC that its a 1/64 of a shiny parents egg being shiny [[user: adambesthythe]]

== Shiny Pokemon ==

Would it be worth it if we put in a Section or even a whole new page that showed a normal Pokemon's sprite along with it's Shiny sprite image? [[User:Tesh|Tesh]] 17:11, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
I think it is a good idea because it would be interesting to see.[[User:Tesh|Tesh]] 10:05, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

== Include 4th Gen formulas? ==

I think this article should include the formulas for determining whether or not a pokemon is shiny from its MAP and OT IDs. Any objections? Also, the probability of obtaining a shiny in Gens 3/4 should be corrected to the correct value, 1/8192, not 2/65025. Where did that number come from, anyway?
--[[User:Reuvens|Reuvens]] 22:15, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
:I think the second number is the chance that a Pokémon will contract Pokérus. :/ Good idea, by the way. -- [[User:Umbee|Umbee]] 19:52, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
I think I've found the source of this ridiculous number, after a little bit of futzing. 256^2 is 65536, and the chance of encountering a shiny is 8/65536. However, 255^2 is 65025, and so it's possible that someone hit a wrong button on their calculator when trying to calculate chances. Unfortunately, I doubt that figuring any of this out is going to change the fact that a whole bunch of people are now misreporting the odds as 2/65025 simply by virtue of it previously being on Bulbapedia. Hopefully it'll die out soon.-- [[User:Reuvens|Reuvens]] 01:12, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

<strike>The chance is not 8/65536 (1/8192), but '''8 in 65536''', or '''8/(65536-8)''' (or 1/819'''1'''). That makes the chance 0.0001220852154804053% instead of 0.0001220703125%.</strike> Not much of a difference, but if such an insanely precise percentage is given, it should be accurate. Also the 2-10 isn't right, 8/65536 is 2-13. I'm correcting this both here and on [[Personality value]] --[[User:En-Cu-Kou|En-Cu-Kou]] 20:20, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

:Well if the chance of something is '''1 in 10''' it mathematically IS a 10% chance (which is 1/10. 1in10= 10%= 0.1= 1/10). <strike>You are saying that '''1 in 10''' is 1/(10-1) which simplifies into 1/9 (just like you said 1/(8192-1) simplifies to 1/8191) ) which is 10.11..% (1/9= 10.11..%= 0.11..). 10%≠10.11..%. So ''you'' are also saying that if something is a 1 in 3 chance it is a 1/(3-1) chance (which simplifies to 1/2, 1/2 is 50%--1/3 is 33.33%).</strike> If I have a jar with 3 different colored (red,pink,blue) marbles the chance of getting a pink is 1/3 (33.33%), blue is 1/3 (33.33%), and red is 1/3 (33.33%). All three percents add up to 100% and fractions add up 1 (3/3=1).<strike> If each was 50% like ''you'' were saying it would add up to 150% and 1.5 (3/2=1.5).</strike> And I was gonna round those decimal numbers on those pages, I just forgot. --[[User:Sivart345|Sivart]][[User talk:Sivart345|3]][[Special:Contributions/Sivart345|4]][[User:Firestorm|'''5''']] 22:47, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
::<strike>Nobody agrees with me?</strike> Wow, I just realized that when I wrote the chance of shininess in the pages (before En-Cu-Kou changed them) that I ''did'' write 2-10 instead of 2-13 (even though I knew it was the latter one) (guess he was right in changing that). [[User:Sivart345|Sivart]][[User talk:Sivart345|3]][[Special:Contributions/Sivart345|4]][[User:Firestorm|'''5''']] 19:02, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
::Oh man. Yes, you're right. I'm sorry for messing this up. --[[User:En-Cu-Kou|En-Cu-Kou]] 19:59, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
:::It's all cool. I crossed out the 'incorrect data' in our comments. [[User:Sivart345|Sivart]][[User talk:Sivart345|3]][[Special:Contributions/Sivart345|4]][[User:Firestorm|'''5''']] 20:43, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

== Shiny Egg? ==
If a shiny pokemon has an [[Pokémon egg|egg]], will the pokemon that hatches from the egg be shiny? [[User:Theryguy512|Ryguy]]
:In Generation II, there was a sort of "gene" system where a shiny's offspring would more likely be shiny. However, Generation III got rid of that system. You have the same chances of finding a wild shiny as hatching a shiny, whether the parent was shiny or not.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 22:32, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

==It was the legendary Red Snorlax==
Look, I know Shiny Snorlax are blue, but the Snorlax in [[SS012|''Training Daze]]'' was the legendary Red Snorlax. It wasn't a real Snorlax, because it turns out in the end that the Snorlax was [[Viper]], the Drill Sergeant of the [[Team Rocket Academy]] in disguise.

== Mystery Dungeon Shinies ==

Rumor has it that you can get shinies in Mystery Dungeon 2... specifically, a shiny Celebi mission or something. Anybody have Time Version to back this up? [[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|The]][[Kirlia (Pokémon)|Kirlia]] ♥ [[Image:281MS.gif]] 21:52, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

*You can't get shinies in PMD2, however, you do come across a Shiny Celebi in the future world in the main plot of the game. Otherwise, no, you can't get them. --[[User:Jonouchi|Ricco]] 15:27, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

==Fossils==
Can the revived fossils in Gen IV be shiny if you try enough? Or is it preset when you first give the guy the fossil? [[Image:Ani164MS.gif]][[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny]][[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|?]][[Special:Contributions/Shiny Noctowl|!]] 01:17, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
:If by "try enough" you mean "give him enough fossils". I think it's preset when you give him the fossil, so just save before doing so, give him the fossil, run out, back in, see if it's shiny, soft reset, repeat. '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:29, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

== Shiny ditto ==

If you have a ditto that is shiny and it uses transform does the pokéemon it transforms into be shiny?--[[Image:Ani052MS.gif]][[Image:Ani300MS.gif]][[Image:Ani431MS.gif]][[User:kittenchild|kittenchild and her discovery]][[Image:Ani264MS.gif]] 01:24, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
:Yes. However, if the Pokémon you trasform into is shiny, and Ditto/Mew is not, it'll be regular. {{ani|281}}[[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Sandbox|☆]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Favorites|♥]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]][http://freewebs.com/thepixelcafe δ]{{ani|282}} 01:26, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

will it bread shinny Pokemon? [[User:Cerberus|Cerberus]]
:No. That's only in {{gen|II}}, unfortunatly. I kept breeding my Vaporeon with a shiny Wooper, in hopes that I'd get a shiny Eevee, but 150 eggs later I gave up. Fail! :p [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 16:05, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

No. <big>{{ani|486}}[[User:Tesh|'''TESH''']]{{ani|377}}[[User Talk:Tesh|'''TALK''']]{{ani|378}}[[User:Tesh/Other|'''FUN''']]{{ani|379}}</big> 16:05, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Rats. [[User:Cerberus|Cerberus]] 13:56, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

== Starly clock ==
Wasn't the clock Dawn owned in [[DP001]] a shiny starly??? --[[Image:Spr 3e 059.gif|70px]][[Image:Spr 3e 132.gif]]'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Games|2]]''' [[Image:Trozeiani025.gif]] 01:29, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

So would shiny Noctowl be 光るヨルノズク? [[Image:164sMS.png]][[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny]][[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|?]][[Special:Contributions/Shiny Noctowl|!]] 20:38, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
:Hikaru Yorunozuku? I think so. Google's translation officially says "lucent". however. '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:36, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
::I wouldn't trust Google's translations if my life depended on it. :[--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 05:30, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

== The Prima guides ==

As well as using other non-explicit terms from the game such as [[Effort values]], Volume 2 of the Diamond & Pearl Prima guide mentions ''shiny Pokémon'' and even mentions the possibility of getting those Pokémon easily via the [[Poké Radar]]. I know those guides are authorized by Nintendo because they are sold by [[Pokémon Center (store)|PokemonCenter]]. However, how much of the content is "official"? --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 20:54, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

== Question for G/S/C ==

...do you need a shiny Ditto to pass on shiny genes, or does it work for any shiny '''in Gold and Silver'''? Right now, I'm breeding a male Red Gyarados with a female Dratini, so I can get a shiny one, but halfway through riding on the bike through Route 34 and Goldenrod, I forgot whether shininess is only passed down through a Ditto, or any shiny. Bah! If someone could clear this up for me, it'd be appreciated! [[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/TinaTheKirlia|δ]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]]{{MS|281|Kirlia}} 18:49, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
:Hmmm... I think the shiny gene is passed through any shiny Pokémon. A shiny Ditto is widely used for breeding shinies because it can breed with anything. [[User:Tesh|'''TESHIGIGAS''']] 18:54, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
::Shinyness IS passed on thru anything in GSC. 1/64 chance if both parents are shiny, and 1/256 chance if one is shiny.

== question ==

i have a question
in gen IV, will every trainer see a shiny pokémon ssoner or later?
i had a green and blue tentacool once, but i erased my file
am i done for shiny pokémon?

idk but once i saw a shiny Girafarig once . and i also hatched a shiny happiny. from that happiny egg from the hiker and it was shiny, but once it evolved it was regular. has this ever happened before on pokémon game history, or is it my game, or is it a glitch????0.o

No, you aren't. It's just hard to find a shiny Pokémon. Remember that there is a very small chance of finding one. -Metagross72
:Math says yes.Out of every 65536 pokemon you see, at least 8 of the m should be shiny[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|DCM]]
:Shinies evolve into shinies. Maybe you just thought it was. Another thing could be due to the fact that Chansey and Blissey's shiny sprites aren't spectacularly different from the regulars. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:06, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

==Foreign Aid==

"rare colored Pokemon's Egg can be found little easier"

That line is from http://www.gamefreak.co.jp/blog/dir_english/?p=30 . It talks about the GTS and the benefits of using Pokemon from another country. Among these is "Rare Colored Pokemon's Egg can be found little easier." I'm surprised it isn't noted here yet... does anyone have any additional information?--[[User:PikamasterADV|PikamasterADV]] 04:44, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

OH MY GOD YOURE FREAKING RIGHT!!!! I was surfing on the net and then found this videos!! you gotta watch them!!! this is gonna make us all have shiny pokemon in seconds!!! THANK YOU SOOOO MUCH for mencioning that, I would never know it!! Thank you!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDM6YTICYdA&feature=Responses&parent_video=cqsch18fnG4&index=1 [[User:YukitoOoO|YukitoOoO]] 20:05, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

==I luv Mathmatics==
Someone help me please... I don't understand those complex formulas (sorry). Can someone explain me in english this thing? If I catch a pokemon 25 times (all of them with different personalities) will 1 be shiny or not? [[User:Hfc2x|Hfc2x]] 18:52, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
:The answer is simple. No. It's a one out of 8192 chance of being shiny, not 1 out of 25. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]{{MS|281|Kirlia}} 19:15, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
::But what does a pokemon need to be shiny? (that was the correct question :P) how does the personality affect that? [[User:Hfc2x|Hfc2x]] 19:46, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
:::The personality value is a hidden value anyway; it's not the ''nature''. It determines it, like it determines gender, Wurmple's evolution, and so on. But they're all unrelated. Shininess is also determined by the Trainer's ID number, I believe. So there's likely very few possible gender/final form/nature combos for a shiny Wurmple. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]][[Image:Ani155MS.gif|Fire echy]]''' 20:15, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

== Shiny ==

If a Pokemon is shiny, would it have higher stats than a normal Pokemon, or would they just be just another Pokemon, but a different color? [[User:Zapdos|Zapdos]] 20:58, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
:Only in GS it would have different ("better") stats. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]{{MS|281|Kirlia}} 21:03, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
::Not really "better", just "specific" stats. It'd have all 10's except in Def. and Sp.Def, I think, while the max is 15. In Gen III and IV, though, it has the same random stats any Pokémon does. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]][[Image:Ani155MS.gif|Fire echy]]''' 22:13, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
::: Now that I think about it, shinies in [[Generation II]] aren't all that good. Defense, Speed, Sp. Atk and Sp. Def EVs will be about 10% better, and HP is either average or about 50% worse. --[[User:JDigital|JDigital]] 06:58, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

== Alternate Colouration ==

Shouldn't this link here? Not everyone here uses American English ([[User:GT4GTR|GT4GTR]] 02:43, 4 May 2008 (UTC))
:yes. done. i was talking about this the other day with another user. any more of these, you tell me, i can take care of it in a jiffy. (and other people too really) -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 03:01, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

==Weedle==
wait there was a weedle in the ultimate test that was colored green. is that worth metioning? [[User:ShinyMedicham]]

== Red number colour in Gen IV? ==

I have been Pokésaving some Pokémon so that they are shiny. Can anyone confirm that if the Pokémon is shiny, the colour of the number in their summary page is red?[[User:GJPal|GJ]] 01:29, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
:My shiny Pokémon have red Pokédex numbers, and they aren't hacked. --[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 01:36, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
::Alright, thank you. I just wanted to make sure it wasn't a mistake I made while hacking.[[User:GJPal|GJ]] 01:40, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

== Breeding chance in Gen II ==

I noticed that it says there is as high as a 1/64 chance of breeding a shiny Pokémon in Gen II. I recently hatched 5 eggs in my Silver version. I used a shiny male Gyarados (from the Lake of Rage) and a female Dragonite. When all 5 eggs hatched I had 2 male and 3 female Dratini. The weird thing was that 2 females were shiny. If the chances are really 1/64 than the odds of that happening are about 1/430. With only 5 samples, its not enough info to say whether this was just luck or maybe our hypotheses about breeding need to be looked over. Any thoughts? [[User:Stewy5714|Stewy5714]] 15:31, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

:Lucky. I doubt that means the chances are different.--[[User:Starlight the ampharos|Starlight the ampharos]] 17:48, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

== Shiny legendary pokémon? ==

Is it possible to get a shiny legendary without cheating or a promotional event? Or are all normally obtainable legendaries a fixed color?

:Legendary Pokémon have the same rate of being shiny as any other Pokémon. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 16:26, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

:You just have to try a few times until you battle a shiny legendary... well a little more than a few times LOL xD '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 03:19, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

When is the shininess or nonshininess of a legendary decided? When you battle the legendary or before? i.e. if I battle a legendary, lose, turn off the game, whaever, and reload, would there be a chance of it being an alternate color the second time?

It really is not worth trying. Do you have any idea how long you would potentially have to play? You could play for three weeks without sleep of constantly battling the legendary, turning the game off and all that and still not get that shiny legendary. The chace is 1 in 8192....that doesn't mean you can battle it 8191 times and 8192nd one with DEFINATELY be shiny. Its a 1 in 8192 chance every time. Whenever I come across someone with a shiny legendary, it's common sense to assume they hacked it.[[User:Bttsstewart|Bttsstewart]] 05:50, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

: :( I got a legit Shiny Heatran after 2 hours. It's definitely possible. --12:12, 16 April 2009 (UTC)[[User:~Poke~|~Poke~]]

I'll take your word for it but when someone battles you, they'll assume it's hacked...That must have taken ages, but you won't get any credit for it. Too bad....:-( [[User:Bttsstewart|Bttsstewart]] 09:23, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
: [http://www.gamefaqs.com/portable/ds/file/960099/57737 this guide] (section G002) suggests that Legendary personality values are set when the game is started (i.e., save file created), but I'm not sure that's true. The page doesn't mention it so i'll assume it's false, but does anyone know for certain?
::It isn't. In my soulsilver, I found a shiny Ho-oh, but my game froze. When I restarted, it was normal, and I was sad. [[User:Gliscorguy54|Gliscorguy54]] 01:03, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

::: Actually, when you start a new game, the game decides which [[PID]]s "are shiny". This means that there are some pre-determined PIDs that are shiny. When I checked my game (ID: 18287, SID: 31401) using Project Pokémon's PID-IV Generator, there were at least 10,000 (I gave up after that) shiny PIDs. I've been considered lucky, because I have encountered '''lots''' of shiny Pokémon (some in my old save file). I have a shiny Lugia, Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, Deoxys, and Shaymin. I soft reseted each one about three times each (thirty at most if I'm "unlucky"). I am going to trade my Shiny Bidoof and Shiny Bronzong when it's possible. Look for the OT Kaipo. [[User:8o8 Dark|-- 8o8 Dark]] 05:54, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

== Kecleon ==

Why is Kecleon mentioned here? Read the Pokédex description. It's perfectly normal for a Kecleon to be any colour, as long as its zigzag is red. It's normal behaviour for a Kecleon. --[[User:Someone Else|Someone Else]] 00:37, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
:Due to body camouflage. The purple one is most certainly not camouflaging. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:10, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

== Orange Islands ==

Is it worth mentioning the Pokémon from the Orange Islands in the Animé? Some of the Pokémon were coloured (and patterned) differently so would that count? --☆[[User:Woodland Mudkip|Woodland:M]] ☆ 10:05, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

:Not really.--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''Pika''']][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|'''chu!''']] 10:05, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

::Do you mean the pink ones? If so, then no, they don't count. They weren't shiny. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|electAbuzzzz]] ([[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|TALK]]) 10:08, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Maybe! They might be referring to the Vileplume and Butterfree in Pokéball Peril--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 12:05, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
:Yes - I mean the Pokémon at professor Ivy's lab. She said they were different due to the climate or something. This article doesn't just talk about shinies so it seems relevant. --☆[[User:Woodland Mudkip|Woodland:M]] ☆ 22:51, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
::Remember guys, who makes the rules... THE GAMES! This article exist because of the shiny Pokémon exist in the games, and THEN they existed in the anime. The orange islands Pokémon are not the same as shiny, so it's not relevant to put it in the article. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 00:05, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Since when? We mention the purple Kecleon yet its not in the games. This doesn't mean "shiny only". It means Pokémon that are a color that they aren't usually. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 02:07, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

== Reliability of sprites? ==

Just an odd question; are the shiny sprites for each Pokémon completely legitimate? I remember when I was younger playing Crystal version I found a red Caterpie, though Caterpie are said to be gold whilst shiny. My friend also tells me she has a maroon Luvdisc, although I don't know how reliable that information is since I've never seen it. [[User:Gabbie|Gabbie]] 00:05, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
:All sprites have been taken from inside the game data (at least the ones which I've uploaded), so I can tell you they're reliable. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 00:44, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

I can hack games and see the sprites in the roms and each Pokémon only gets one normal sprite and back sprite and one shiny sprite and back sprite and none of the sprites you say exist are in any Pokémon games.Darkmaster0 00:57, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

The colours could be messed up by a glitch. I've seen a glitched yellow and green Remoraid before, even though they're usually either blue or purple. -- [[User:Umbee|Umbee]] 21:56, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

I too used to have a red Caterpie on Crystal... [[User:Me, Hurray!|Me, Hurray!]] 15:03, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

== Sprites missing ==

Here are a few facts that surprised me. We don't have shiny sprites for {{p|Goldeen}} or {{p|Torchic}}!

Also, not so surprisingly, we don't have sprites for Shiny Unowns BCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ!?, but this is understandable, as we have hardly any Unown sprites at all.

Do the sprites not exist or were they simply missed? [[User:Gligar|Gli]][[User talk:Gligar|gar]] 19:52, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

:Not all sprites have been uploaded. It's simply work in progress. You're welcome to help upload missing sprites - I upload some every once in a while... --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|electAbuzzzz]] ([[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|TALK]]) 19:54, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

== Pokemon Stadium ==

This says they could have "slightly" different colors. xD That made me laugh. The color variations in Stadium and (especially) Stadium 2 could be anywhere from miniscule to OUTRAGEOUS. I swear on Tajiri's grave I had a female Nidoran (actually Spot, from the boy south of Cerulean) who throughout her life looked male on Stadium 2. As a Nidoqueen, this became far worse than ever before, as she became a perfect shade of Nidoking purple with the teal ears, and a lighter creamy pastel teal for her face/torso accents. x3 Spot was awesome, lol. Incidentally, as the same NidoranF could be obtained on any Red or Blue, I tried it with a couple different game paks and never got another with her colors.

Poliwag were another one that was awesome. Typically for me, their skin ranged from teal to bright purple, while their lips could be any color of the rainbow. xD I had two full boxes on Stadium 2 of stored Poliwag just seeing how many different ones I could find. x3 Man, good ol' Stadium, neh? [[User:Heart of Thorns|Heart of Thorns]] 07:29, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
:Ahha. I haven't played Stadium in a very long time, but damn do i remember the strange colors some would come out with. I might have had a glitchy game or something, i mean, if i remember rightly i had a yellow-y green Charmander at some point *sighs* Ah, good times. [[User:Takoto|~~Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 09:17, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

== Ho-Oh Error ==

"The first Pokémon with its official alternate coloration seen was also the first Generation II Pokémon to be seen, a Ho-Oh seen by Ash in the first episode."

This sentence, from the way I read it, seems to claim that the first shiny Pokémon in the anime to match its alternate coloration in the games is the Ho-Oh in the first episode. Correction: Ho-Oh was covered entirely in a golden aura; We have no way of telling whether this is actually an alternate coloration or not. While one could argue that the colors we do see are not the same as its regular colors in-game, the depicted coloration isn't identical to its "official" shiny form either. It's just a Ho-Oh with a fully golden appearance due to the aura surrounding it. [[User:Marlowe|Marlowe]] 03:42, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

= I agree, There is no evidence that it was 'officially' "alternate colored" (however you Americans spell colour) ([[User:GT4GTR|GT4GTR]] 23:11, 25 December 2008 (UTC))

==Shiny Issue==
There is also a shiny Seaking in the FR/LG Trainer Tower, as shown in another page in Bulbapedia. The problem is, I can't undo the little box around it, and I didn't do anything to add it. Please just remove that, and it'll be good. Thanks,--[[User:Mence Master|Mence Master]] 01:04, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
EDIT: Disregard, it undid it by itself. Or another user helped out, but whatever, it's good now.
:For the record, that happens when you place a space before text:
like so.
[[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 01:10, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Okay,thanks.

Now onto that little Toxicroak Debate.

==Toxicroak Debate==
There was a blue one in Giratina and the Sky Warrior.
And no, it wasn't JUST the filter. It was the Toxicroak's coloration.
[http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk284/SRkid/Picture3.png]
If you look closely, it is blue.
::Actually, that really looks like the filter. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 15:12, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

:::I don't really think the filter is causing the Toxicroak to look normal-colored. I seriously believe that, behind the filter, lies an honest-to-goodness normal-coloration Toxicroak. Trust me, I don't think putting a filter of that color over a Toxicroak colored like Saturn's would result in that coloration...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 15:15, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
::::Hmm, it does look like SP252 was right...where is this Toxicroak in the whole movie anyway...? '''[[User:Optimatum|Θρtιmαtum]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]] 15:19, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::I think that would be the intro. But this doesn't mean that the other Toxicroak are definitely shiny. [[User:Jmath|'''Jm''']][[User talk:Jmath|'''a''']][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|'''th''']] 17:45, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::Well, there's a Torterra there too, and is THAT blue?--[[User:Mence Master|Mence Master]] 21:50, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
::Ah, this isn't objective proof, however. If the Toxicroak was in a normal appearance, and not floating around under idle showcasing for points unknown, there could be an argument (but no, not really). Instead, I can point out that the color filter does make some of the pokémon look off-color. That Bibarel just before is practially ''rosy'' compared to its normal brown, and Bonsly is a faint gold-green instead of its normal brown (not that I'm saying Toxicroak is affected by this; the difference would have been slighter and not several shades removed). That, and there's no way of saying that neither production teams didn't take liberties: series folk made its normal form with the shiny variation, and movie folk either ignored that or didn't realize and used its normal colors as they should be.

::Again, this isn't proof. At all. You're looking for ordinary coloring in the series. Movies don't cut it to make your argument, since the animation and those behind it are vastly diferent as a whole. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 14:11, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

:::First of all, that picture looks like crap. You can't tell anything from it. I saw the perfect quality version of the movie and it still looks like the coloration of Saturns. Shiningpikablu252, give it up already! It's NOT shiny. It's the anime colors, and learn to accept it. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 04:01, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

== Alternate coloration or shiny ==

Which is correct? Because by defenition, Alternate coloration means differently colored. Any Pokémon that's not it's original color should be in a page about '''DIFFERENTLY COLORED ''' Pokémon. Shiny is the unaverage coloration of a Pokémon in a Pokémon game, if im not mistaken. I think this page should have a different name (Like "Shiny Pokémon") [[User:ShinyPikachu|ŚĥîΠŶPî₭₳ĉĥŭ]] 02:28, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

: "Alternate Coloration" Is the offical term used in-game. "Shiny" is the fanmade term. In a wiki that's supposed to be informative, the offical term takes precedence over fanmade ones. [[User:PDL|PDL]] 03:46, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
::"Shiny" is also an official term :
::http://www.pixenli.com/image1237763589075416100.html [[User:Froggy25|Froggy25]] 23:14, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
:::See [http://www.pokemon.com/#mailbag_03122009 here].--'''[[User:Prmatt11|''Mew'']]* [[User talk:Prmatt11|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Prmatt11|Prmatt11]]'''at 17:48, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

== Shiny Metagross or Noctowl ==

OK, Instead of having an edit war. Talk about it in the discussion. Its easier and better.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 22:40, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
:Noctowl already has a page; I say Metagross. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Is teh Pedia laggin 4 u 2?]] 22:44, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
::Why does it matter if it 'already had a page'??? It's still the most commonly known shiny, and shows the whole body of the Pokémon, not just the face. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User Talk:Theryguy512|512]]''' 22:45, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
:::Anyone can see the {{AP|shiny Noctowl's|Noctowl}} and page see the pic there. We would like to give chance to others that doesn't have their own page, such as shiny Metagross and Donphan. Theryguy also has a point; we should show the whole body, not just the face. '''►[[User:Kevzo8|Ҝə]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|υz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|ø8]]''' 22:52, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
::::We do need a better pic.... [[User:J-J-M|'''J''']]'''-'''[[User talk:J-J-M|'''J''']]'''-'''[[Special:Contributions/J-J-M|'''M''']] 22:58, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

== Shiny egg sent to a different game ==

If Shinyness it determined by personality value and trainer/secret ID what happens if you bred a shiny egg in one game, reset the game to before it hatched and traded to another game. The Pokémon will have a new OT so would the game recalculate it's shinyness based on the new trainer/secret ID or will it remember it was shiny in the other game and therefore hatch shiny? [[User:Jmvb|Jmvb]] 16:39, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
:It recalculates, since the Shiny condition is determined by the {{tt|OT's|hatching Trainer's}} Trainer & Secret IDs, and then the personality value. While the personality value is determined when the egg is received from the Day Care Man, the other parts of the equation depend on who hatches it. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<sc>Kogoro</sc>''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<sc>Talk to me</sc>''']] - 16:53, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

== {{p|Jigglypuff}}??? ==
Aren't [[Little Pink]] and the {{p|Jigglypuff}} from [[AG138]] shiny??? They both have green eyes just like their shiny forms.
<gallery perrow=3>
File:Marina.gif|[[Little Pink]]
File:AG138 126.jpeg|The {{p|Jigglypuff}} from [[AG138]]
File:Spr 4d 039 s.png|A shiny {{p|Jigglypuff}}
</gallery>
--'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User Talk:Theryguy512|512]]''' 00:37, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
:[[Jigglypuff (Pokémon)#Trivia|It isn't really a unique thing...]]--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[User talk:RexRacer|Racer''']] 00:41, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
::But still, they're not the normal coloration like {{an|Jigglypuff|a regular Jigglypuff}}. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User Talk:Theryguy512|512]]''' 01:06, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

== That Table.... ==

I say we update it a bit more, Why don't we add the pictures of the shiny Pokémon in the table? Or will this be a major flop?--[[User:Force Fire|FF]]([[Special:Contributions/Force Fire|edits]]•[[User talk:Force Fire|talk]]) 06:51, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
:Do it. Roundycorners as well. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 07:02, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
::done. Images need to be added.--[[User:Force Fire|FF]]([[Special:Contributions/Force Fire|edits]]•[[User talk:Force Fire|talk]]) 07:24, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

== Shiny Ditto ==

Will a shiny ditto transform into shiny subjects?

== Mewtwo's Color, and i'm not colorblind ==

In mewtwo's alternate color sprites its green, but my alt color mewtwo is black.
Granted i got it through a brainboy, it still should be green shouldn't it?

I mean i get a pink/purple Celebi and all the other pokemon are what they should be, but why is mewtwo black? Its even black in Stadium II.

So what's up, even if the sprites somehow got messed up, how would it make the stadium mewtwo black as well. Did who ever rip the sprites somehow mess up the colors? [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 20:16, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
:For some reason, a shiny Mewtwo appears black in Stadium 2. I've noticed this as well a long time ago. I'm not sure of the reasons though. Color coding problems maybe. Would make interesting trivia though. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 20:23, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
:: Its not just stadium though, it was on all three games (G/S/C) for me. Why would it appear on the GBC screen as black as well?

:: I would add that but every time i try to add something, someone usually tries to remove it often playing the speculation card even thought a vast majority of whats on here is left to speculation. [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 20:37, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Believe me. I had a shiny Mewtwo in GSC through my own stupidity. It's green, Yami. You can't deny game sprites. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:41, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

::::I'm not debating it, I'm just wondering why mine were black on both the GBC screen and stadium 2 in both the 3D stadium and during Gameboy Mode. I'm not sure how we obtained these sprites, but could there have been some corruption either on the ripper of the sprites end. Or is its on my end because i mutated a red gyarados into the mewtwo. [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 20:47, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::I can't explain that... I just know that Mewtwo is black in Stadium 2 3D. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 20:49, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

:::::So should we add that little trivia, i mean we have you and me who can vouch for Mewtwo being black in the stadium 2. [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 20:54, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
::::::Yeah I'll do it. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 20:58, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

:Unlike most others, I might know the reason to this. While I don't know how it works in the Generation II games, I know how it works in the Gen III games, and it should hypothetically work in a similar way in the Gen II games. Anyways, due to the data structure in those games, a sprite can oly have accessibility to a certain, preprogrammed combination of 16 colors at a time. Due to this, there are over 1500 (!) combinations of colors possible, for each sprite, and also has the positions of their colors possible. While the data normally gives the Pokémon, upon first encounter, it gives them combination #596, the normal color, with a slight chance of combination #597, the alternate color, appearing. If the game is hacked or cheated to let a Pokémon of another combination appear it will, ofcourse, appear in that color. Hypothetically, it should work in a similar way in the Gen II games. If so, there's a possibility is that they added all thos colors to Stadium to prevent crashing the game if that Pokémon would be sent to it. - ''unsigned comment from {{u|Pokémon Lover King Mario}} ([[User talk:Pokémon Lover King Mario|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pokémon Lover King Mario|contribs]]) ''

== Mesuda Method ==

I have been seeing things on the web about the "Masuda Method". Supposedly the chance of receiving a shiny pokemon is 1/2048 when you hatch an egg if the parents are from different countries. I have no proof of this, however as it is not on the talk pages yet, I was wondering if anyone here could confirm whether this is true or not. The original post that started this is here http://www.gamefreak.co.jp/blog/dir_english/?p=30. - ''unsigned comment from {{u|Link3710}} ([[User talk:Link3710|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Link3710|contribs]]) ''
:We actually have an article about that. I should know, {{tt|I wrote most of it|so if it's wrong let me know - I haven't experienced this for myself}}! It just isn't linked to by anywhere yet.... I'll get to it xD — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 08:30, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

== Colosseum and XD ==
Is it possible for the pokemon you snag in Pokemon Colosseum and Pokemon XD to be Shiny? If so, how is it indicated on the status screen and when they are released. I was so convinced my Growlithe in XD was shiny but it was just a light color and ultraballs give yellow goldy orange stars when they are released... it really bummed me out because I thought it was the first shiny I have ever seen and Owned... -- [[User:D558|D558]] 00:21, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

If it is shiny then the text in it summary should be yellow instead of white, there will also be a short animation after being sent into battle. It should also be noted on this page that some shiny pokemon are completely different than in the main games, for example I have a shiny Heracross that is blue with darker coloured eyes & a pink stomach as opposed to main games shiny Heracross which are pink all over with normal eyes, Voltorb is also a different, being very very dark blue (almost black) with a light blue base, while shiny Electrode is no different to those in the main games. [[User:Vuvuzela2010|Vuvuzela2010]] 21:06, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
--Also I thought I should add that Shadow Lugia & Bonsly do not have shiny forms in XD, if they are made to be shiny with cheats or that 1 in 1000000 chance of being shiny they will still have the shiny animation but they will not appear any different & their battle pictures & box sprites & purification set animations will be the same, though Shadow Lugia will become appear shiny when purified. While Munchlax can be hacked, it dosent have any of the above in its regular or shiny form & the game will crash if sent into battle.

== The term "shiny" confirmed as official? ==

The GTS tutorial at http://www.pokemon-gts.net/gtstutorial/en-US/ has a page about [[Masuda method]]. This page refers to Shiny Pokémon - is this the first time an official English source uses this term? (Go to Trading Pokémon over GTS, then GTS features, then page 5 to see the reference.) '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 13:54, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
:Oh yeah, I don't have a clue when that tutorial thingie came first there, but I'm absolutely sure it wasn't there a couple of weeks ago. Had to go to check if they had anything interesting there :D '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 14:04, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
::Pokémon.com's mailbag's used the term more than once. It would seem that if Shiny Pokémon is a fan tern, it's one that Nintendo recognizes, which is rare. I think the term is official. Shall I move the page to "Shiny Pokémon"? [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 14:16, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
:::I'd vote for moving the page, though I don't know if the page move should go first through an admin (since this is a fairly often-linked page, over 500 pages link here). '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 14:18, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
::::The way I see it, while we fix the links, the current page is gonna be a redirect anyway. I don't see why not, official websites have used the term, so.... Yeah, I'll move the page. If it gets reverted, then we'll leave it. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 16:05, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

:::::Actually, are the usages of "shiny" in the Mailbag in the questions only, or do they appear in the answers as well? If it's the former, then the page should absolutely NOT be moved from "alternate coloration". As far as I can tell, "alternate coloration" is indeed the official terminology, and there's very little that would say otherwise. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 16:43, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::I don't know about those, but the GTS tutorial, which I believe to be official Nintendo material, uses the term "shiny", and that was the sole point of my original question whether that should be considered official. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 16:49, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::About the mailbag, it was the answers that used the term. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 17:30, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Interesting. The URL of the ad for the Pikachu-colored Pichu promotion contains the word "shiny": http://www.pokemon.com/us/special/shiny_pichu
Also, check out "The Prima guides" section of this talk page. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 20:09, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

== The Title Dispute ==
I disagree with the move for one reason: shiny is only focusing on shiny Pokemon. Alternate coloration can imply any other colors of Pokemon such as [[Pink Butterfree]]. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 16:25, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

== In the Anime ==

I think we ought to have a [[List of Shiny Pokémon in the anime]], in which we can go more in-depth on them than we do in this article. What say you people? [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 13:24, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
:<s>Missingno. Master, I agree with you, but we have a section about it. And if we were to add such a page, Do you have any idea how small It would be? And how could we get more in depth?</s> Tought it through and Sounds like a good idea to me. :D [[User talk: ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']] 00:56, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
::Don't we already have one? --[[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 00:58, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
:::No, but we have a section, on the page. We do need {{tt|more|some}} Information about these Pokémon. Hell, ''I'' don't know what the Metegross from ''Noodle's: Roaming off!'' has to do with the storyline at all. Besides, the page doesn't even have a bit of info about these Pokémon at all. [[User talk: ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']] 01:06, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Exactly the reason I suggested this. Editing the information on them into the page would make it even bigger than it is. In fact, I think I might start on this page right now. Well, actually, not yet. Perhaps tomorrow... [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 01:25, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

== Shiny ==

I have saw a shiny {{p|Sharpedo}} on the GTS before.Also,I caught a shiny {{p|Bidoof}},(I didn`t use Action Replay when i caught it).I have a big question,If I have a male shiny and a regular female,what would be the odds that the offspring is shiny.[[User:LucarioWolf|The Aura Wolf !!!!]] 12:23, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
:The odds are the same in Generations III and IV. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 12:44, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
::The odds wouldn't change, even if the parents are both shiny. The chances of gettin a shiny egg are the same as findin one in the wild. Unless, of course, your usin Platinum. [[User talk: ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']] 17:21, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
:Actually, I just remembered about the Masuda Method. If that Sharpedo is foreign or breeds with a foreign Pokémon, the odds will decrease in Generation IV. And what do you mean about using Platinum ShinyPikachu? [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 17:55, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
::Look on Plt's page. See where it mentions about the PRNG (pesudo-random number generator) being "broken' making it easier to breed shiny Pokémon? [[User talk: ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']] 18:06, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

== First gen. ==

I heard if you trade a Pokemon from a first generation game to a second generation game, or transfer a Pokemon from a first generation game to Stadium 2, they might appear as shiny. That's true, right, due to shininess being attributed to IVs? On an unrelated side note, Jigglypuffs "straw hat"..Isn't that Leaf's hat? I don't own Brawl, so I wouldn't know, but I heard it is. [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 23:45, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
:Yes and yes. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:02, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

== Colored vs Shiny ==

Maybe we should just have a separate page for color variations that are in the anime that don't correspond to "shininess"? It's implied, IIRC, that pokemon come in a range of colors in the anime, such as the Orange Islands pokemon. [[User:Yamikuronue|Yamikuronue]] 15:33, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
:This page was once known as alternate coloration, which included all of this. Would it be reasonable to revert the move? [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 15:41, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
::It should be... but when Missingno Master (I believe) moved it, all users decided that everything should be that way and thus changed all the links... we could undo and what not if we can find the changes. However, I think an admin would need to confirm this. Missingno Master approved of reverting the move, so... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 14:17, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Let's have a new vote. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 14:20, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
::::I don't think it's necessary though... just as I said before, Missingno Master moved it, and then agreed to what I said. It's [[User talk:Missingno. Master/Archive10#Redirect|here]]. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 18:13, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::So split it into 2 pages? [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 18:49, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::That's a different matter, now isn't it? Personally, I think that the second page is necessary I guess... I mean, we have a link to alternately colored Pokémon in the anime. It seems a tad bit out of place. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 19:01, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::: MM said "Yeah, that's true. Maybe make another page for Pokémon that are oddly colored, but not shiny" so isn't that the same matter? [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 19:05, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Subpage then? Shiny is considered alternate-colored I guess... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 19:07, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::So these are the situations: 1. move back 2. split into 2 pages or make subpage out of shiny 3. Remove all alternate coloration references that aren't shiny in the page. I think 1 is the best as shiny is alternate coloration. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 19:10, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::Shininess is, IMO, a cause of alternate coloration - as opposed to, say, natural variation or berries, which are both anime-only. [[User:Yamikuronue|Yamikuronue]] 23:33, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

== Shiny vs. shiny ==

VGC website uses "Shiny", but should we? It just seems... odd. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:33, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
:TTE, what about Spiky? Are we still deciding whether it's -eared or -Eared? I mean, it's up to you, but we've been used to the former for a while. Same scenario here as well. I say revert though for both. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 01:52, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
::I think we should wait for another source. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 02:20, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
:::That's the thing. We have so many sources even within the Pokémon.com system which has different spellings. It's up to us to decide in a sense. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 02:47, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
::::Oh. I'm gonna have to go with shiny. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 02:50, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::Just sent TPCi an e-mail asking about this.--'''[[User:Immewnity|''immewnity'']][[User talk:Immewnity|the]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|mew]]''' 21:00, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

== Trivia ==

I do not understand: ''The Pokédex, when checked through the menu, never shows shiny variants of a Pokémon... However, if a Pokémon is first caught with an alternate color, the Pokédex entry that comes after the catch will show the Pokémon with its alternate colors in the corner.'' [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 03:02, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

I think it may refer to a certain Pokédex, but I don't get it either. [[User:Swampert Man|Swampert Man]][[User talk:Swampert Man|''Swampert'']] [[Special:Contributions/Swampert Man|''is Awesome!'']] 03:06, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
:It means that if you manually look up the entry it will show the normal colouration, whether you have seen the normal colours or not. However if the first one you see is shiny and you catch it, then the entry that is automatically displayed will show the shiny sprite. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 03:08, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
::That doesn't seem to be the case when traded though, right? Just clarifying here, what with the event Pichu I received. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 03:10, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
:::I don't know, I haven't got around to transfering PCP over yet. I just remember seeing someone explain it somewhere. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 03:32, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

== Shiny Stats ==

I've heard plenty of myths and talk saying a shiny Pokémon is stronger than a regular Pokémon of the same species. For example, a shiny Zubat will have higher stats than a regular Zubat of the same level, nature, EV's and IV's etc. Is this true? [[User:FrozenStrategy|FrozenStrategy]] 21:11, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
:No. The reason this myth came about was because in generation II a shiny Pokémon had to have specific IVs, which were better than average, although still not brilliant. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 21:37, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

== Colosseum/XD Shiny Differences ==

I found a german website which shows the differences between Shiny Pokemon in Col/XD & the normal games, for example shiny Kecleon in the main games look no different except for having a blue stripe, but the Col/XD ones are yellow with light blue markings [http://www.pokewiki.de/Kecleon], Voltorb is very very dark blue, almost black [http://www.pokewiki.de/Voltobal], Mantine is dark green [http://www.pokewiki.de/Mantax], Heracross is blue & pink with darker eyes [http://www.pokewiki.de/Skaraborn], Staryu is green/brown [http://www.pokewiki.de/Sterndu], etc. shouldnt this be added either to this page or to the pages of each Pokemon? {{unsigned|Vuvuzela2010}}

==Abra Cadabra Alakazam... Shiny?==
Hey if u catch a legit shiny abra or someone with synchronize, will that make more pokemon u see shiny? Does having Synchronize increase chances of shinies? My bro got Shiny mew (would he affect anything?) on GTS and found a legit one in the safari zone, he is so lucky. Does walking one make a lesser or higher chance? Is there really a way to find shinies due to your id no? ----[[User:Desukaan563|Desukaan563's userpage has a Value Formula to measure Pokémon worth]] ''([[User talk:Desukaan563|talk]])'' 08:06, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
:Having a Shiny Pokémon with Synchronize does not affect the encounter rate of other Shiny Pokémon. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:11, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

==Nominated for FAC!!!==
Hey! I made this article a Featured Article Nominee! U can discuss this at http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Talk:Shiny_Pok%C3%A9mon/Featured_article_candidate ! What do u think? ----[[User:Desukaan563|Desukaan563's userpage has a Value Formula to measure Pokémon worth]] ''([[User talk:Desukaan563|talk]])'' 11:32, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
: How come It wont let me edit the page that is supporting it be a featured article? [[User:Mesuxelf|[[User:Mesuxelf|Mesprit]], [[User talk:Mesuxelf|Uxie]], [[User:Mesuxelf|Azelf]]. Mesuxelf ]] 22:53, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
::Because the voting stage for this period is closed. The nominated articles must now be discussed by the Editorial Board. Also, you might want to check the ''treat signature as wikitext (without automatic link)'' box in your preferences ;) [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 01:25, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

==FAC talk request==

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In the FAC talk it was requested for some kind of random Shiny Pokémon template. While I don't know if the idea is good, here is an example of what it would look like. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 03:59, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

== Hidden power ==
I read on the Hidden power page that in Gen II, shiny pokemon HP types could only be dragon or grass. Could someone please insert this? [[User:S and T|S and T]] 00:52, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

==Manga?==
I can't be the only one who has noticed this so I thought I would ask why there is no manga section in this article. This article is incoplete, yet it is a nominee for a featured article. Is there a reason that the manga has not been added?--'''[[User:EpicShadow|Epic]][[User talk:EpicShadow|Shadow]]''' 16:05, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
:Yes, this is one of my main objections against featuring this article. There should be a manga section. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 14:00, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
::Well, if someone could add one (though there isn't much mention of shinyness in the magna), that would be useful, though i doubt we need one, due to them being so uncommon in the magna.----[[User:Desukaan563|Desukaan563's userpage has a Value Formula to measure Pokémon worth]] ''([[User talk:Desukaan563|talk]])'' 09:54, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
Well I suppose but what Shiny Pokémon appeared in the Manga other then Silver's Red Gyarados? [[User:Mr.Char|Mr.Char]] 23:55, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

== Mismagius ==

Could it be argued that Kodai's Mismagius is alternately colored because of the long extensions on it's body? [[User:Mr.Char|Mr.Char]] 00:31, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

== What does this mean? ==

"Pikachu-colored Pichu, however, displays a sparkle effect almost identical to that one in the games for Shiny Pokémon. " What does this mean? In like 'Get Fired Up Notched Eared Pichu' the Pikachu Colored Pichu sparkles?

== Statistical probability ==

I did some research: for fixed Trainer ID and Secret ID (mine and those of my pals) I generated up to 100'000'000 random PIDs (though I used normal RNG method, not [[Pseudo-random number generation in Pokémon|GF's one]]) and my results are following: for most TID and SID pair chance of encountering shiny {{tt|stabilizes|coverges/tends}} to approximately 0.025%, in rare cases up to 0.04%. Is it somehow worth mentioning? — ∀<tt>[[User:ЫъГЬ|ЫъГѣ]] ∃[[User_talk:ЫъГЬ|Talk page]]</tt> 18:06, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

== Trivia ==

"A Shiny Zigzagoon was given to games from an interactive demo to fix the Berry Glitch. " Shouldn't this be added to the trivia on this page? [[User:Mr.Char|Mr.Char]] 23:59, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Under the header "Generations III, IV, and V", it says: ''"In Generation V, Pokémon in the Pokédex will appear Shiny if the first specimen of that Pokémon encountered is Shiny."'' This is only partly true. The Pokémon that displays on the main page of your Pokédex is, ''by default'', the first specimen that you encountered. So, for example, if you meet a male Frillish and then a female Jellicent (as I did), then you will have a blue Frillish followed by a pink Jellicent. However, you can change what Pokémon is displayed. So if it bothers you to have a blue Frillish followed by a Pink Jellicent (as it bothered me), you can fix it so both entries are pink or both entries are blue (alternately you can show off your shinies, set entries to non-shiny, etc.). Here are the steps for changing what Pokémon is displaye on the main page of your Pokédex:
1 -- Go into your Pokédex and find the Pokémon whose sprite you want to change.
2 -- Click (A). This should take you to a page where, along the bottom, there are 4 buttons that read: (INFO)(AREA)(CRY)(FORMS)
3 -- Click left on the D-pad and then (A).
4 -- If you have encountered more than 1 form of the Pokémon, then there should now be 2 sprites next to each other. If you have encountered 3 or more forms, you can press left and right to see more forms.
5 -- When you find the sprite you want to be displayed on the main page of the Pokédex, press (A) once more. This should cause the sprites to swap places.
6 -- Press (B) twice.
7 -- Marvel at your beautified Pokédex!
I'm timid about editing the page directly, but hopefully someone else will be able to use this information to decide what to do about that note.
[[User:Pdrydia|Pdrydia]] 17:49, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

List of Key Items in Generation III

2007-11-08T19:07:58Z

Pdrydia: /* Oak's Parcel */

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This is a list of all [[key items]] that are found in [[Generation III]]. Please note that some of these are also part of the [[list of key items in Generation I]] due to {{g|Red and Green}} being [[Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen|remade]], and several appear in multiple generations.

Some items are specific to a certain region, while others can be found in both [[Kanto]] and [[Hoenn]]. Those that can be will be indicated.

==List of key items in Generation III==

===Acro Bike===
*'''Purpose:''' Use to move faster than walking. Performs tricks.
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Mauville City]]

===Auroraticket===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows players to access [[Birth Island]].
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Nintendo Event]]{{tt|*|FireRed, LeafGreen, and Emerald only}}

===Basement Key===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows access to [[New Mauville]].
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Mauville City]]

===Berry Pouch===
*'''Purpose:''' Holds [[Berry|Berries]].
*'''Description:''' A pouch for carrying Berries. It is attached to the bag's compartment for important items.
*'''Location:''' N/A

===Bicycle===
*'''Purpose:''' Use to move faster than walking.
*'''Description:''' A folding bicycle that allows faster movement than the running shoes.
*'''Location:''' [[Cerulean City]]

===Bike Voucher===
*'''Purpose:''' Exchange for [[Bicycle]].
*'''Description:''' Take this voucher to the bike shop in [[Cerulean City]] and exchange it for a bicycle.
*'''Location:''' [[Vermilion City]]

===Blue Orb===
*'''Purpose:''' Use to awaken {{p|Kyogre}}.
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Mt. Pyre]]{{tt|*|Sapphire only}}

===Card Key===
*'''Purpose:''' Opens doors in [[Silph Co.]]
*'''Description:''' A card-type key that unlocks doors in Silph Co.'s head office in [[Saffron City]].
*'''Location:''' [[Silph Co.]]

===Claw Fossil===
*'''Purpose:''' Take to [[Devon Corporation]] in [[Rustboro City]] to obtain a revived {{p|Anorith}}.
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Route 111]]

===Coin Case===
*'''Purpose:''' Holds up to 9999 coins for use at the [[Rocket Game Corner]] or [[Mauville Game Corner]].
*'''Description:''' A case for holding coins obtained at the Game Corner. It holds up to 9,999 coins.
*'''Location:'''
**'''Kanto:''' [[Celadon City]]
**'''Hoenn:''' [[Mauville City]]

===Contest Pass===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows players to participate in [[Pokémon Contest]]s.
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Verdanturf Town]]

===Devon Goods===
*'''Purpose:''' To be delivered to [[Captain Stern]].
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Rusturf Tunnel]]

===Devon Scope===
*'''Purpose:''' Reveals hidden Pokémon.
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Route 120]]

===Dome Fossil===
*'''Purpose:''' Take to the [[Pokémon Lab]] on [[Cinnabar Island]] to obtain a revived {{p|Kabuto}}.
*'''Description:''' A [[fossil]] of an ancient, seafloor-dwelling Pokémon. It appears to be part of a shell.
*'''Location:''' [[Mt. Moon]]

===Eon Ticket===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows players to access [[Southern Island]].
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Nintendo Event]]{{tt|*|Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald only}}

===Fame Checker===
*'''Purpose:''' Tells about famous characters.
*'''Description:''' A device that enables [[you]] to recall what you've heard and seen about famous people.
*'''Location:''' [[Cerulean City]]

===Go-Goggles===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows players to enter the desert sandstorm.
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Lavaridge Town]]

===Gold Teeth===
*'''Purpose:''' [[Warden Slowpoke]]'s false teeth. Return them to him for {{HM|04|Strength}}.
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Kanto Safari Zone|Safari Zone]]

===Good Rod===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows the player to [[fishing|fish]] in bodies of water. Better than the Old Rod.
*'''Description:''' A new, good-quality fishing rod. Use it by any body of water to fish for [[wild Pokémon]].
*'''Location:'''
**'''Kanto:''' [[Fuchsia City]]
**'''Hoenn:''' [[Route 118]]

===Helix Fossil===
*'''Purpose:''' Take to the [[Pokémon Lab]] on [[Cinnabar Island]] to obtain a revived {{p|Omanyte}}.
*'''Description:''' A fossil of an ancient, seafloor-dwelling Pokémon. It appears to be part of a seashell.
*'''Location:''' [[Mt. Moon]]

===Itemfinder===
*'''Purpose:''' Locates items hidden on the ground.
*'''Description:''' A device used for finding items. If there is a hidden item nearby when it is used, it emits a signal.
*'''Location:'''
**'''Kanto:''' [[Route 11]]
**'''Hoenn:''' [[Route 110]]

===Lift Key===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows operation of the elevator in the [[Rocket Hideout]].
*'''Description:''' A key that operates the elevator in [[Team Rocket]]'s hideout. It bears the Team Rocket logo.
*'''Location:''' [[Rocket Hideout]]

===Mach Bike===
*'''Purpose:''' Use to move much faster than walking. Able to climb muddy slopes.
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Mauville City]]

===Meteorite===
*'''Purpose:'''
**'''Kanto:''' Deliver to [[Lostelle]]'s father on [[Two Island]] at [[Bill]]'s request
**'''Hoenn:''' Return to [[Professor Cozmo]].
*'''Description:'''
**'''Kanto:''' A meteorite that fell from space onto [[Mt. Moon]] long ago. It is very lumpy and hard.
**'''Hoenn:'''
*'''Location:'''
**'''Kanto:''' [[One Island (town)|One Island]]
**'''Hoenn:''' [[Mt. Chimney]]

===Mysticticket===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows players to access [[Navel Rock]].
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Nintendo Event]]{{tt|*|FireRed, LeafGreen, and Emerald only}}

===Oak's Parcel===
*'''Purpose:''' Deliver to [[Professor Oak]] to receive a [[Pokédex]].
*'''Description:''' A parcel to be delivered to Prof. Oak from Viridian City's [[Pokémon Mart]].
*'''Location:''' [[Viridian City]]

===Old Amber===
*'''Purpose:''' Take to the [[Pokémon Lab]] on [[Cinnabar Island]] to obtain a revived {{p|Aerodactyl}}.
*'''Description:''' A piece of amber that contains the genes of an ancient Pokémon. It is clear with a reddish tint.
*'''Location:''' [[Pewter Museum of Science]]

===Old Rod===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows the player to [[fishing|fish]] in bodies of water.
*'''Description:''' An old and beat-up fishing rod. Use it by any body of water to fish for [[wild Pokémon]].
*'''Location:'''
**'''Kanto:''' [[Vermilion City]]
**'''Hoenn:''' [[Dewford Town]]

===PokéBlock Case===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows admission to the [[Hoenn Safari Zone|Safari Zone]], holds [[PokéBlock]]s.
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Slateport City]]

===Poké Flute===
*'''Purpose:''' Awakens sleeping Pokémon.
*'''Description:''' A flute that is said to instantly awaken any Pokémon. It has a lovely tone.
*'''Location:''' [[Lavender Town]]

===Powder Jar===
*'''Purpose:''' Holds [[Berry]] powder from [[Berry Crush]].
*'''Description:''' A jar for storing Berry Powder made using a Berry Crusher.
*'''Location:''' [[Cerulean City]]

===Red Orb===
*'''Purpose:''' Use to awaken {{p|Groudon}}.
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Mt. Pyre]]{{tt|*|Ruby only}}

===Rainbow Pass===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows players to access the [[Sevii Islands]].
*'''Description:''' A pass for ferries between [[Vermilion City|Vermilion]] and the [[Sevii Islands]]. It features a drawing of a rainbow.
*'''Location:''' [[One Island (town)|One Island]]

===Root Fossil===
*'''Purpose:''' Take to [[Devon Corporation]] in [[Rustboro City]] to obtain a revived {{p|Lileep}}.
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Route 111]]

===Ruby===
*'''Purpose:''' Give to [[Celio]] along with Sapphire to set up the Network Machine on [[One Island (town)|One Island]]
*'''Description:''' An exquisitely beautiful gem that has a red glow. It symbolizes passion.
*'''Location:''' [[Mt. Ember]]

===Sapphire===
*'''Purpose:''' Give to [[Celio]] along with Ruby to set up the Network Machine on [[One Island (town)|One Island]]
*'''Description:''' An exquisitely beautiful gem that has a blue glow. It symbolizes honesty.
*'''Location:''' [[Rocket Warehouse]] on [[Five Island]]

===Scanner===
*'''Purpose:''' Exchange for a [[DeepSeaScale]] or [[DeepSeaTooth]].
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Abandoned Ship]]

===Secret Key===
*'''Purpose:''' Unlocks the door of [[Cinnabar Gym]]
*'''Description:''' The key to [[Cinnabar Island]] [[Gym]]'s front door. It is colored red and decorated.
*'''Location:''' [[Pokémon Mansion]]

===Silph Scope===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows {{type2|Ghost}} Pokémon to be seen.
*'''Description:''' A scope that makes unseeable Pokémon visible. It is made by [[Silph Co.]]
*'''Location:''' [[Rocket Hideout]]

===Soot Sack===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows ashes to be collected.
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Route 113]]

===S.S. Ticket===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows admission to the [[S.S. Anne]]/[[S.S. Tidal]].
*'''Description:'''
**'''Kanto:''' The ticket required for sailing on the ferry [[S.S. Anne]]. It has a drawing of a ship on it.
**'''Hoenn:''' ???
*'''Location:'''
**'''Kanto:''' [[Sea Cottage]]
**'''Hoenn:''' [[Littleroot Town]]

===Storage Key===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows a door to be opened on the [[Abandoned Ship]].
*'''Location:''' [[Abandoned Ship]]

===Super Rod===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows the player to [[fishing|fish]] in bodies of water. Best Rod of all.
*'''Description:''' An awesome, high-tech fishing rod. Use it by any body of water to fish for [[wild Pokémon]].
*'''Location:'''
**'''Kanto:''' [[Route 12]]
**'''Hoenn:''' [[Mossdeep City]]

===Teachy TV===
*'''Purpose:''' Teaches players how to capture Pokémon.
*'''Description:''' A television set that is tuned to a program with useful tips for novice [[Pokémon Trainer|Trainer]]s.
*'''Location:''' [[Viridian City]]

===TM Case===
*'''Purpose:''' Holds [[TM]]s and [[HM]]s.
*'''Description:''' A case that holds TMs and HMs. It is attached to the bag's compartment for important items.
*'''Location:''' N/A

===Town Map===
*'''Purpose:''' Displays a map of [[Kanto]] and the [[Sevii Islands]].
*'''Description:''' A very convenient map that can be viewed anytime. It even shows [[you]]r present location.
*'''Location:''' [[Pallet Town]]

===Tri Pass===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows players to access the three northernmost [[Sevii Islands]].
*'''Description:''' A pass for ferries between [[One Island (town)|One]], [[Two Island (town)|Two]], and [[Three Island (town)|Three Island]]. It has a drawing of three islands.
*'''Location:''' [[Cinnabar Island]]

===Wailmer Pail===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows [[Berry|Berries]] to be watered.
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Route 104]]

===Vs Seeker===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows Trainers to be rechallenged.
*'''Description:''' A device that indicates [[Pokémon Trainer|Trainer]]s who want to battle. The battery charges while traveling.
*'''Location:''' [[Vermilion City]]

{{key}}
[[Category:Lists]]
[[Category:Items]]

List of Key Items in Generation III

2007-11-08T19:06:38Z

Pdrydia: + info on Bike Voucher, Dome Fossil, Fame Checker, Oak's Parcel

{{incomplete}}
This is a list of all [[key items]] that are found in [[Generation III]]. Please note that some of these are also part of the [[list of key items in Generation I]] due to {{g|Red and Green}} being [[Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen|remade]], and several appear in multiple generations.

Some items are specific to a certain region, while others can be found in both [[Kanto]] and [[Hoenn]]. Those that can be will be indicated.

==List of key items in Generation III==

===Acro Bike===
*'''Purpose:''' Use to move faster than walking. Performs tricks.
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Mauville City]]

===Auroraticket===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows players to access [[Birth Island]].
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Nintendo Event]]{{tt|*|FireRed, LeafGreen, and Emerald only}}

===Basement Key===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows access to [[New Mauville]].
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Mauville City]]

===Berry Pouch===
*'''Purpose:''' Holds [[Berry|Berries]].
*'''Description:''' A pouch for carrying Berries. It is attached to the bag's compartment for important items.
*'''Location:''' N/A

===Bicycle===
*'''Purpose:''' Use to move faster than walking.
*'''Description:''' A folding bicycle that allows faster movement than the running shoes.
*'''Location:''' [[Cerulean City]]

===Bike Voucher===
*'''Purpose:''' Exchange for [[Bicycle]].
*'''Description:''' Take this voucher to the bike shop in [[Cerulean City]] and exchange it for a bicycle.
*'''Location:''' [[Vermilion City]]

===Blue Orb===
*'''Purpose:''' Use to awaken {{p|Kyogre}}.
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Mt. Pyre]]{{tt|*|Sapphire only}}

===Card Key===
*'''Purpose:''' Opens doors in [[Silph Co.]]
*'''Description:''' A card-type key that unlocks doors in Silph Co.'s head office in [[Saffron City]].
*'''Location:''' [[Silph Co.]]

===Claw Fossil===
*'''Purpose:''' Take to [[Devon Corporation]] in [[Rustboro City]] to obtain a revived {{p|Anorith}}.
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Route 111]]

===Coin Case===
*'''Purpose:''' Holds up to 9999 coins for use at the [[Rocket Game Corner]] or [[Mauville Game Corner]].
*'''Description:''' A case for holding coins obtained at the Game Corner. It holds up to 9,999 coins.
*'''Location:'''
**'''Kanto:''' [[Celadon City]]
**'''Hoenn:''' [[Mauville City]]

===Contest Pass===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows players to participate in [[Pokémon Contest]]s.
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Verdanturf Town]]

===Devon Goods===
*'''Purpose:''' To be delivered to [[Captain Stern]].
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Rusturf Tunnel]]

===Devon Scope===
*'''Purpose:''' Reveals hidden Pokémon.
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Route 120]]

===Dome Fossil===
*'''Purpose:''' Take to the [[Pokémon Lab]] on [[Cinnabar Island]] to obtain a revived {{p|Kabuto}}.
*'''Description:''' A [[fossil]] of an ancient, seafloor-dwelling Pokémon. It appears to be part of a shell.
*'''Location:''' [[Mt. Moon]]

===Eon Ticket===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows players to access [[Southern Island]].
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Nintendo Event]]{{tt|*|Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald only}}

===Fame Checker===
*'''Purpose:''' Tells about famous characters.
*'''Description:''' A device that enables [[you]] to recall what you've heard and seen about famous people.
*'''Location:''' [[Cerulean City]]

===Go-Goggles===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows players to enter the desert sandstorm.
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Lavaridge Town]]

===Gold Teeth===
*'''Purpose:''' [[Warden Slowpoke]]'s false teeth. Return them to him for {{HM|04|Strength}}.
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Kanto Safari Zone|Safari Zone]]

===Good Rod===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows the player to [[fishing|fish]] in bodies of water. Better than the Old Rod.
*'''Description:''' A new, good-quality fishing rod. Use it by any body of water to fish for [[wild Pokémon]].
*'''Location:'''
**'''Kanto:''' [[Fuchsia City]]
**'''Hoenn:''' [[Route 118]]

===Helix Fossil===
*'''Purpose:''' Take to the [[Pokémon Lab]] on [[Cinnabar Island]] to obtain a revived {{p|Omanyte}}.
*'''Description:''' A fossil of an ancient, seafloor-dwelling Pokémon. It appears to be part of a seashell.
*'''Location:''' [[Mt. Moon]]

===Itemfinder===
*'''Purpose:''' Locates items hidden on the ground.
*'''Description:''' A device used for finding items. If there is a hidden item nearby when it is used, it emits a signal.
*'''Location:'''
**'''Kanto:''' [[Route 11]]
**'''Hoenn:''' [[Route 110]]

===Lift Key===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows operation of the elevator in the [[Rocket Hideout]].
*'''Description:''' A key that operates the elevator in [[Team Rocket]]'s hideout. It bears the Team Rocket logo.
*'''Location:''' [[Rocket Hideout]]

===Mach Bike===
*'''Purpose:''' Use to move much faster than walking. Able to climb muddy slopes.
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Mauville City]]

===Meteorite===
*'''Purpose:'''
**'''Kanto:''' Deliver to [[Lostelle]]'s father on [[Two Island]] at [[Bill]]'s request
**'''Hoenn:''' Return to [[Professor Cozmo]].
*'''Description:'''
**'''Kanto:''' A meteorite that fell from space onto [[Mt. Moon]] long ago. It is very lumpy and hard.
**'''Hoenn:'''
*'''Location:'''
**'''Kanto:''' [[One Island (town)|One Island]]
**'''Hoenn:''' [[Mt. Chimney]]

===Mysticticket===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows players to access [[Navel Rock]].
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Nintendo Event]]{{tt|*|FireRed, LeafGreen, and Emerald only}}

===Oak's Parcel===
*'''Purpose:''' Deliver to [[Professor Oak]] to receive a [[Pokédex]].
*'''Description:''' A parcel to be delivered to Prof. Oak from [[Viridian City]]'s [[Pokémon Mart]].
*'''Location:''' [[Viridian City]]

===Old Amber===
*'''Purpose:''' Take to the [[Pokémon Lab]] on [[Cinnabar Island]] to obtain a revived {{p|Aerodactyl}}.
*'''Description:''' A piece of amber that contains the genes of an ancient Pokémon. It is clear with a reddish tint.
*'''Location:''' [[Pewter Museum of Science]]

===Old Rod===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows the player to [[fishing|fish]] in bodies of water.
*'''Description:''' An old and beat-up fishing rod. Use it by any body of water to fish for [[wild Pokémon]].
*'''Location:'''
**'''Kanto:''' [[Vermilion City]]
**'''Hoenn:''' [[Dewford Town]]

===PokéBlock Case===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows admission to the [[Hoenn Safari Zone|Safari Zone]], holds [[PokéBlock]]s.
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Slateport City]]

===Poké Flute===
*'''Purpose:''' Awakens sleeping Pokémon.
*'''Description:''' A flute that is said to instantly awaken any Pokémon. It has a lovely tone.
*'''Location:''' [[Lavender Town]]

===Powder Jar===
*'''Purpose:''' Holds [[Berry]] powder from [[Berry Crush]].
*'''Description:''' A jar for storing Berry Powder made using a Berry Crusher.
*'''Location:''' [[Cerulean City]]

===Red Orb===
*'''Purpose:''' Use to awaken {{p|Groudon}}.
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Mt. Pyre]]{{tt|*|Ruby only}}

===Rainbow Pass===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows players to access the [[Sevii Islands]].
*'''Description:''' A pass for ferries between [[Vermilion City|Vermilion]] and the [[Sevii Islands]]. It features a drawing of a rainbow.
*'''Location:''' [[One Island (town)|One Island]]

===Root Fossil===
*'''Purpose:''' Take to [[Devon Corporation]] in [[Rustboro City]] to obtain a revived {{p|Lileep}}.
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Route 111]]

===Ruby===
*'''Purpose:''' Give to [[Celio]] along with Sapphire to set up the Network Machine on [[One Island (town)|One Island]]
*'''Description:''' An exquisitely beautiful gem that has a red glow. It symbolizes passion.
*'''Location:''' [[Mt. Ember]]

===Sapphire===
*'''Purpose:''' Give to [[Celio]] along with Ruby to set up the Network Machine on [[One Island (town)|One Island]]
*'''Description:''' An exquisitely beautiful gem that has a blue glow. It symbolizes honesty.
*'''Location:''' [[Rocket Warehouse]] on [[Five Island]]

===Scanner===
*'''Purpose:''' Exchange for a [[DeepSeaScale]] or [[DeepSeaTooth]].
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Abandoned Ship]]

===Secret Key===
*'''Purpose:''' Unlocks the door of [[Cinnabar Gym]]
*'''Description:''' The key to [[Cinnabar Island]] [[Gym]]'s front door. It is colored red and decorated.
*'''Location:''' [[Pokémon Mansion]]

===Silph Scope===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows {{type2|Ghost}} Pokémon to be seen.
*'''Description:''' A scope that makes unseeable Pokémon visible. It is made by [[Silph Co.]]
*'''Location:''' [[Rocket Hideout]]

===Soot Sack===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows ashes to be collected.
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Route 113]]

===S.S. Ticket===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows admission to the [[S.S. Anne]]/[[S.S. Tidal]].
*'''Description:'''
**'''Kanto:''' The ticket required for sailing on the ferry [[S.S. Anne]]. It has a drawing of a ship on it.
**'''Hoenn:''' ???
*'''Location:'''
**'''Kanto:''' [[Sea Cottage]]
**'''Hoenn:''' [[Littleroot Town]]

===Storage Key===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows a door to be opened on the [[Abandoned Ship]].
*'''Location:''' [[Abandoned Ship]]

===Super Rod===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows the player to [[fishing|fish]] in bodies of water. Best Rod of all.
*'''Description:''' An awesome, high-tech fishing rod. Use it by any body of water to fish for [[wild Pokémon]].
*'''Location:'''
**'''Kanto:''' [[Route 12]]
**'''Hoenn:''' [[Mossdeep City]]

===Teachy TV===
*'''Purpose:''' Teaches players how to capture Pokémon.
*'''Description:''' A television set that is tuned to a program with useful tips for novice [[Pokémon Trainer|Trainer]]s.
*'''Location:''' [[Viridian City]]

===TM Case===
*'''Purpose:''' Holds [[TM]]s and [[HM]]s.
*'''Description:''' A case that holds TMs and HMs. It is attached to the bag's compartment for important items.
*'''Location:''' N/A

===Town Map===
*'''Purpose:''' Displays a map of [[Kanto]] and the [[Sevii Islands]].
*'''Description:''' A very convenient map that can be viewed anytime. It even shows [[you]]r present location.
*'''Location:''' [[Pallet Town]]

===Tri Pass===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows players to access the three northernmost [[Sevii Islands]].
*'''Description:''' A pass for ferries between [[One Island (town)|One]], [[Two Island (town)|Two]], and [[Three Island (town)|Three Island]]. It has a drawing of three islands.
*'''Location:''' [[Cinnabar Island]]

===Wailmer Pail===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows [[Berry|Berries]] to be watered.
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Route 104]]

===Vs Seeker===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows Trainers to be rechallenged.
*'''Description:''' A device that indicates [[Pokémon Trainer|Trainer]]s who want to battle. The battery charges while traveling.
*'''Location:''' [[Vermilion City]]

{{key}}
[[Category:Lists]]
[[Category:Items]]

User talk:Pdrydia

2007-10-31T15:02:53Z

Pdrydia:

Psst. When writing a page, don't use "you". It's bad form to talk to the readers. '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:23, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks much. :salute!: -[[User:Pdrydia|Pdrydia]] 16:57, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
:Also, make sure not to link to disambig pages. Remember, [[One Island]] refers to both the [[One Island (town)|town on the island]], as well as [[Knot Island]] itself. '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:11, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

:Poo, missed that. Sorry. -[[User:Pdrydia|Pdrydia]] 15:02, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

List of Key Items in Generation III

2007-10-30T16:16:54Z

Pdrydia: added info for Meteorite, Tri Pass, Ruby, Sapphire from my LG game

{{incomplete}}
This is a list of all [[key items]] that are found in [[Generation III]]. Please note that some of these are also part of the [[list of key items in Generation I]] due to {{g|Red and Green}} being [[Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen|remade]], and several appear in multiple generations.

Some items are specific to a certain region, while others can be found in both [[Kanto]] and [[Hoenn]]. Those that can be will be indicated.

==List of key items in Generation III==

===Acro Bike===
*'''Purpose:''' Use to move faster than walking. Performs tricks.
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Mauville City]]

===Auroraticket===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows players to access [[Birth Island]].
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Nintendo Event]]{{tt|*|FireRed, LeafGreen, and Emerald only}}

===Basement Key===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows access to [[New Mauville]].
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Mauville City]]

===Berry Pouch===
*'''Purpose:''' Holds [[Berry|Berries]].
*'''Description:''' A pouch for carrying Berries. It is attached to the bag's compartment for important items.
*'''Location:''' N/A

===Bicycle===
*'''Purpose:''' Use to move faster than walking.
*'''Description:''' A folding bicycle that allows faster movement than the running shoes.
*'''Location:''' [[Cerulean City]]

===Bike Voucher===
*'''Purpose:''' Exchange for Bicycle.
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Vermilion City]]

===Blue Orb===
*'''Purpose:''' Use to awaken {{p|Kyogre}}.
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Mt. Pyre]]{{tt|*|Sapphire only}}

===Card Key===
*'''Purpose:''' Opens doors in [[Silph Co.]]
*'''Description:''' A card-type key that unlocks doors in Silph Co.'s head office in [[Saffron City]].
*'''Location:''' [[Silph Co.]]

===Claw Fossil===
*'''Purpose:''' Take to [[Devon Corporation]] in [[Rustboro City]] to obtain a revived {{p|Anorith}}.
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Route 111]]

===Coin Case===
*'''Purpose:''' Holds up to 9999 coins for use at the [[Rocket Game Corner]] or [[Mauville Game Corner]].
*'''Description:''' A case for holding coins obtained at the Game Corner. It holds up to 9,999 coins.
*'''Location:'''
**'''Kanto:''' [[Celadon City]]
**'''Hoenn:''' [[Mauville City]]

===Contest Pass===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows players to participate in [[Pokémon Contest]]s.
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Verdanturf Town]]

===Devon Goods===
*'''Purpose:''' To be delivered to [[Captain Stern]].
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Rusturf Tunnel]]

===Devon Scope===
*'''Purpose:''' Reveals hidden Pokémon.
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Route 120]]

===Dome Fossil===
*'''Purpose:''' Take to the [[Pokémon Lab]] on [[Cinnabar Island]] to obtain a revived {{p|Kabuto}}.
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Mt. Moon]]

===Eon Ticket===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows players to access [[Southern Island]].
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Nintendo Event]]{{tt|*|Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald only}}

===Fame Checker===
*'''Purpose:''' Tells about famous characters.
*'''Description:''' A device that enables [[you]] to recall what you've heard and seen about famous people.
*'''Location:''' ???

===Go-Goggles===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows players to enter the desert sandstorm.
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Lavaridge Town]]

===Gold Teeth===
*'''Purpose:''' [[Warden Slowpoke]]'s false teeth. Return them to him for {{HM|04|Strength}}.
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Kanto Safari Zone|Safari Zone]]

===Good Rod===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows the player to [[fishing|fish]] in bodies of water. Better than the Old Rod.
*'''Description:''' A new, good-quality fishing rod. Use it by any body of water to fish for [[wild Pokémon]].
*'''Location:'''
**'''Kanto:''' [[Fuchsia City]]
**'''Hoenn:''' [[Route 118]]

===Helix Fossil===
*'''Purpose:''' Take to the [[Pokémon Lab]] on [[Cinnabar Island]] to obtain a revived {{p|Omanyte}}.
*'''Description:''' A fossil of an ancient, seafloor-dwelling Pokémon. It appears to be part of a seashell.
*'''Location:''' [[Mt. Moon]]

===Itemfinder===
*'''Purpose:''' Locates items hidden on the ground.
*'''Description:''' A device used for finding items. If there is a hidden item nearby when it is used, it emits a signal.
*'''Location:'''
**'''Kanto:''' [[Route 11]]
**'''Hoenn:''' [[Route 110]]

===Lift Key===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows operation of the elevator in the [[Rocket Hideout]].
*'''Description:''' A key that operates the elevator in [[Team Rocket]]'s hideout. It bears the Team Rocket logo.
*'''Location:''' [[Rocket Hideout]]

===Mach Bike===
*'''Purpose:''' Use to move much faster than walking. Able to climb muddy slopes.
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Mauville City]]

===Meteorite===
*'''Purpose:'''
**'''Kanto:''' Deliver to [[Lostelle]]'s father on [[Two Island]] at [[Bill]]'s request
**'''Hoenn:''' Return to [[Professor Cozmo]].
*'''Description:'''
**'''Kanto:''' A meteorite that fell from space onto [[Mt. Moon]] long ago. It is very lumpy and hard.
**'''Hoenn:'''
*'''Location:'''
**'''Kanto:''' [[One Island]]
**'''Hoenn:''' [[Mt. Chimney]]

===Mysticticket===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows players to access [[Navel Rock]].
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Nintendo Event]]{{tt|*|FireRed, LeafGreen, and Emerald only}}

===Oak's Parcel===
*'''Purpose:''' Deliver to [[Professor Oak]] to receive a [[Pokédex]].
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Viridian City]]

===Old Amber===
*'''Purpose:''' Take to the [[Pokémon Lab]] on [[Cinnabar Island]] to obtain a revived {{p|Aerodactyl}}.
*'''Description:''' A piece of amber that contains the genes of an ancient Pokémon. It is clear with a reddish tint.
*'''Location:''' [[Pewter Museum of Science]]

===Old Rod===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows the player to [[fishing|fish]] in bodies of water.
*'''Description:''' An old and beat-up fishing rod. Use it by any body of water to fish for [[wild Pokémon]].
*'''Location:'''
**'''Kanto:''' [[Vermilion City]]
**'''Hoenn:''' [[Dewford Town]]

===PokéBlock Case===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows admission to the [[Hoenn Safari Zone|Safari Zone]], holds [[PokéBlock]]s.
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Slateport City]]

===Poké Flute===
*'''Purpose:''' Awakens sleeping Pokémon.
*'''Description:''' A flute that is said to instantly awaken any Pokémon. It has a lovely tone.
*'''Location:''' [[Lavender Town]]

===Powder Jar===
*'''Purpose:''' Holds [[Berry]] powder from [[Berry Crush]].
*'''Description:''' A jar for storing Berry Powder made using a Berry Crusher.
*'''Location:''' [[Cerulean City]]

===Red Orb===
*'''Purpose:''' Use to awaken {{p|Groudon}}.
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Mt. Pyre]]{{tt|*|Ruby only}}

===Rainbow Pass===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows players to access the [[Sevii Islands]].
*'''Description:''' A pass for ferries between [[Vermilion City|Vermilion]] and the [[Sevii Islands]]. It features a drawing of a rainbow.
*'''Location:''' [[One Island (town)|One Island]]

===Root Fossil===
*'''Purpose:''' Take to [[Devon Corporation]] in [[Rustboro City]] to obtain a revived {{p|Lileep}}.
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Route 111]]

===Ruby===
*'''Purpose:''' Give to [[Celio]] along with Sapphire to set up the Network Machine on [[One Island]]
*'''Description:''' An exquisitely beautiful gem that has a red glow. It symbolizes passion.
*'''Location:''' [[Mt. Ember]]

===Sapphire===
*'''Purpose:''' Give to [[Celio]] along with Ruby to set up the Network Machine on [[One Island]]
*'''Description:''' An exquisitely beautiful gem that has a blue glow. It symbolizes honesty.
*'''Location:''' [[Rocket Warehouse]] on [[Five Island]]

===Scanner===
*'''Purpose:''' Exchange for a [[DeepSeaScale]] or [[DeepSeaTooth]].
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Abandoned Ship]]

===Secret Key===
*'''Purpose:''' Unlocks the door of [[Cinnabar Gym]]
*'''Description:''' The key to [[Cinnabar Island]] [[Gym]]'s front door. It is colored red and decorated.
*'''Location:''' [[Pokémon Mansion]]

===Silph Scope===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows {{type2|Ghost}} Pokémon to be seen.
*'''Description:''' A scope that makes unseeable Pokémon visible. It is made by [[Silph Co.]]
*'''Location:''' [[Rocket Hideout]]

===Soot Sack===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows ashes to be collected.
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Route 113]]

===S.S. Ticket===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows admission to the [[S.S. Anne]]/[[S.S. Tidal]].
*'''Description:'''
**'''Kanto:''' The ticket required for sailing on the ferry [[S.S. Anne]]. It has a drawing of a ship on it.
**'''Hoenn:''' ???
*'''Location:'''
**'''Kanto:''' [[Sea Cottage]]
**'''Hoenn:''' [[Littleroot Town]]

===Storage Key===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows a door to be opened on the [[Abandoned Ship]].
*'''Location:''' [[Abandoned Ship]]

===Super Rod===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows the player to [[fishing|fish]] in bodies of water. Best Rod of all.
*'''Description:''' An awesome, high-tech fishing rod. Use it by any body of water to fish for [[wild Pokémon]].
*'''Location:'''
**'''Kanto:''' [[Route 12]]
**'''Hoenn:''' [[Mossdeep City]]

===Teachy TV===
*'''Purpose:''' Teaches players how to capture Pokémon.
*'''Description:''' A television set that is tuned to a program with useful tips for novice [[Pokémon Trainer|Trainer]]s.
*'''Location:''' [[Viridian City]]

===TM Case===
*'''Purpose:''' Holds [[TM]]s and [[HM]]s.
*'''Description:''' A case that holds TMs and HMs. It is attached to the bag's compartment for important items.
*'''Location:''' N/A

===Town Map===
*'''Purpose:''' Displays a map of [[Kanto]] and the [[Sevii Islands]].
*'''Description:''' A very convenient map that can be viewed anytime. It even shows [[you]]r present location.
*'''Location:''' [[Pallet Town]]

===Tri Pass===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows players to access the three northernmost [[Sevii Islands]].
*'''Description:''' A pass for ferries between [[One Island|One]], [[Two Island|Two]], and [[Three Island]]. It has a drawing of three islands.
*'''Location:''' [[Cinnabar Island]]

===Wailmer Pail===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows [[Berry|Berries]] to be watered.
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Route 104]]

===Vs Seeker===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows Trainers to be rechallenged.
*'''Description:''' A device that indicates [[Pokémon Trainer|Trainer]]s who want to battle. The battery charges while traveling.
*'''Location:''' [[Vermilion City]]

{{key}}
[[Category:Lists]]
[[Category:Items]]

List of Key Items in Generation III

2007-10-14T17:25:51Z

Pdrydia: + descriptions of Helix Fossil, Old Amber from my LeafGreen cart

{{incomplete}}
This is a list of all [[key items]] that are found in [[Generation III]]. Please note that some of these are also part of the [[list of key items in Generation I]] due to {{g|Red and Green}} being [[Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen|remade]], and several appear in multiple generations.

Some items are specific to a certain region, while others can be found in both [[Kanto]] and [[Hoenn]]. Those that can be will be indicated.

==List of key items in Generation III==

===Acro Bike===
*'''Purpose:''' Use to move faster than walking. Performs tricks.
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Mauville City]]

===Auroraticket===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows players to access [[Birth Island]].
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Nintendo Event]]{{tt|*|FireRed, LeafGreen, and Emerald only}}

===Basement Key===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows access to [[New Mauville]].
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Mauville City]]

===Berry Pouch===
*'''Purpose:''' Holds [[Berry|Berries]].
*'''Description:''' A pouch for carrying Berries. It is attached to the bag's compartment for important items.
*'''Location:''' N/A

===Bicycle===
*'''Purpose:''' Use to move faster than walking.
*'''Description:''' A folding bicycle that allows faster movement than the running shoes.
*'''Location:''' [[Cerulean City]]

===Bike Voucher===
*'''Purpose:''' Exchange for Bicycle.
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Vermilion City]]

===Blue Orb===
*'''Purpose:''' Use to awaken {{p|Kyogre}}.
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Mt. Pyre]]{{tt|*|Sapphire only}}

===Card Key===
*'''Purpose:''' Opens doors in [[Silph Co.]]
*'''Description:''' A card-type key that unlocks doors in Silph Co.'s head office in [[Saffron City]].
*'''Location:''' [[Silph Co.]]

===Claw Fossil===
*'''Purpose:''' Take to [[Devon Corporation]] in [[Rustboro City]] to obtain a revived {{p|Anorith}}.
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Route 111]]

===Coin Case===
*'''Purpose:''' Holds up to 9999 coins for use at the [[Rocket Game Corner]] or [[Mauville Game Corner]].
*'''Description:''' A case for holding coins obtained at the Game Corner. It holds up to 9,999 coins.
*'''Location:'''
**'''Kanto:''' [[Celadon City]]
**'''Hoenn:''' [[Mauville City]]

===Contest Pass===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows players to participate in [[Pokémon Contest]]s.
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Verdanturf Town]]

===Devon Goods===
*'''Purpose:''' To be delivered to [[Captain Stern]].
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Rusturf Tunnel]]

===Devon Scope===
*'''Purpose:''' Reveals hidden Pokémon.
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Route 120]]

===Dome Fossil===
*'''Purpose:''' Take to the [[Pokémon Lab]] on [[Cinnabar Island]] to obtain a revived {{p|Kabuto}}.
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Mt. Moon]]

===Eon Ticket===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows players to access [[Southern Island]].
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Nintendo Event]]{{tt|*|Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald only}}

===Fame Checker===
*'''Purpose:''' Tells about famous characters.
*'''Description:''' A device that enables [[you]] to recall what you've heard and seen about famous people.
*'''Location:''' ???

===Go-Goggles===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows players to enter the desert sandstorm.
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Lavaridge Town]]

===Gold Teeth===
*'''Purpose:''' [[Warden Slowpoke]]'s false teeth. Return them to him for {{HM|04|Strength}}.
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Kanto Safari Zone|Safari Zone]]

===Good Rod===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows the player to [[fishing|fish]] in bodies of water. Better than the Old Rod.
*'''Description:''' A new, good-quality fishing rod. Use it by any body of water to fish for [[wild Pokémon]].
*'''Location:'''
**'''Kanto:''' [[Fuchsia City]]
**'''Hoenn:''' [[Route 118]]

===Helix Fossil===
*'''Purpose:''' Take to the [[Pokémon Lab]] on [[Cinnabar Island]] to obtain a revived {{p|Omanyte}}.
*'''Description:''' A fossil of an ancient, seafloor-dwelling Pokémon. It appears to be part of a seashell.
*'''Location:''' [[Mt. Moon]]

===Itemfinder===
*'''Purpose:''' Locates items hidden on the ground.
*'''Description:''' A device used for finding items. If there is a hidden item nearby when it is used, it emits a signal.
*'''Location:'''
**'''Kanto:''' [[Route 11]]
**'''Hoenn:''' [[Route 110]]

===Lift Key===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows operation of the elevator in the [[Rocket Hideout]].
*'''Description:''' A key that operates the elevator in [[Team Rocket]]'s hideout. It bears the Team Rocket logo.
*'''Location:''' [[Rocket Hideout]]

===Mach Bike===
*'''Purpose:''' Use to move much faster than walking. Able to climb muddy slopes.
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Mauville City]]

===Meteorite===
*'''Purpose:''' Return to [[Professor Cozmo]].
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Mt. Chimney]]

===Mysticticket===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows players to access [[Navel Rock]].
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Nintendo Event]]{{tt|*|FireRed, LeafGreen, and Emerald only}}

===Oak's Parcel===
*'''Purpose:''' Deliver to [[Professor Oak]] to receive a [[Pokédex]].
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Viridian City]]

===Old Amber===
*'''Purpose:''' Take to the [[Pokémon Lab]] on [[Cinnabar Island]] to obtain a revived {{p|Aerodactyl}}.
*'''Description:''' A piece of amber that contains the genes of an ancient Pokémon. It is clear with a reddish tint.
*'''Location:''' [[Pewter Museum of Science]]

===Old Rod===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows the player to [[fishing|fish]] in bodies of water.
*'''Description:''' An old and beat-up fishing rod. Use it by any body of water to fish for [[wild Pokémon]].
*'''Location:'''
**'''Kanto:''' [[Vermilion City]]
**'''Hoenn:''' [[Dewford Town]]

===PokéBlock Case===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows admission to the [[Hoenn Safari Zone|Safari Zone]], holds [[PokéBlock]]s.
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Slateport City]]

===Poké Flute===
*'''Purpose:''' Awakens sleeping Pokémon.
*'''Description:''' A flute that is said to instantly awaken any Pokémon. It has a lovely tone.
*'''Location:''' [[Lavender Town]]

===Powder Jar===
*'''Purpose:''' Holds [[Berry]] powder from [[Berry Crush]].
*'''Description:''' A jar for storing Berry Powder made using a Berry Crusher.
*'''Location:''' [[Cerulean City]]

===Red Orb===
*'''Purpose:''' Use to awaken {{p|Groudon}}.
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Mt. Pyre]]{{tt|*|Ruby only}}

===Rainbow Pass===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows players to access the [[Sevii Islands]].
*'''Description:''' A pass for ferries between [[Vermilion City|Vermilion]] and the [[Sevii Islands]]. It features a drawing of a rainbow.
*'''Location:''' [[One Island (town)|One Island]]

===Root Fossil===
*'''Purpose:''' Take to [[Devon Corporation]] in [[Rustboro City]] to obtain a revived {{p|Lileep}}.
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Route 111]]

===Scanner===
*'''Purpose:''' Exchange for a [[DeepSeaScale]] or [[DeepSeaTooth]].
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Abandoned Ship]]

===Secret Key===
*'''Purpose:''' Unlocks the door of [[Cinnabar Gym]]
*'''Description:''' The key to [[Cinnabar Island]] [[Gym]]'s front door. It is colored red and decorated.
*'''Location:''' [[Pokémon Mansion]]

===Silph Scope===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows {{type2|Ghost}} Pokémon to be seen.
*'''Description:''' A scope that makes unseeable Pokémon visible. It is made by [[Silph Co.]]
*'''Location:''' [[Rocket Hideout]]

===Soot Sack===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows ashes to be collected.
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Route 113]]

===S.S. Ticket===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows admission to the [[S.S. Anne]]/[[S.S. Tidal]].
*'''Description:'''
**'''Kanto:''' The ticket required for sailing on the ferry [[S.S. Anne]]. It has a drawing of a ship on it.
**'''Hoenn:''' ???
*'''Location:'''
**'''Kanto:''' [[Sea Cottage]]
**'''Hoenn:''' [[Littleroot Town]]

===Storage Key===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows a door to be opened on the [[Abandoned Ship]].
*'''Location:''' [[Abandoned Ship]]

===Super Rod===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows the player to [[fishing|fish]] in bodies of water. Best Rod of all.
*'''Description:''' An awesome, high-tech fishing rod. Use it by any body of water to fish for [[wild Pokémon]].
*'''Location:'''
**'''Kanto:''' [[Route 12]]
**'''Hoenn:''' [[Mossdeep City]]

===Teachy TV===
*'''Purpose:''' Teaches players how to capture Pokémon.
*'''Description:''' A television set that is tuned to a program with useful tips for novice [[Pokémon Trainer|Trainer]]s.
*'''Location:''' [[Viridian City]]

===TM Case===
*'''Purpose:''' Holds [[TM]]s and [[HM]]s.
*'''Description:''' A case that holds TMs and HMs. It is attached to the bag's compartment for important items.
*'''Location:''' N/A

===Town Map===
*'''Purpose:''' Displays a map of [[Kanto]] and the [[Sevii Islands]].
*'''Description:''' A very convenient map that can be viewed anytime. It even shows [[you]]r present location.
*'''Location:''' [[Pallet Town]]

===Tri Pass===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows players to access the three northernmost [[Sevii Islands]].
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Cinnabar Island]]

===Wailmer Pail===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows [[Berry|Berries]] to be watered.
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' [[Route 104]]

===Vs Seeker===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows Trainers to be rechallenged.
*'''Description:''' A device that indicates [[Pokémon Trainer|Trainer]]s who want to battle. The battery charges while traveling.
*'''Location:''' [[Vermilion City]]

{{key}}
[[Category:Lists]]
[[Category:Items]]

User talk:Pdrydia

2007-10-14T16:57:20Z

Pdrydia:

Bulbapedia talk:Project ItemDex

2007-10-13T16:46:27Z

Pdrydia: /* Standards and/or infoboxes? */

==Standards and/or infoboxes?==
I know this is a fresh project, but what kind of standards should we have for the articles? Most of the item articles will likely be like [[Potion]] and [[Held items]], with a list of items by group, so maybe these two articles (maybe Potion more than Held items) should be the basis for a standard. As for an infobox, I personally think that it would be unnecessary. What I do think is necessary, though, as I said at [[Talk:Items]], is a footer template that links the articles. --[[User:TwinsMetsFan|'''TMF''']] [[User talk:TwinsMetsFan|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/TwinsMetsFan|C]] 21:03, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
:Concur'd. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 22:11, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
::Pie, what do you think of having the TOC aligned right like I have it set up on [[Held items]]? For shorter articles, this wouldn't be necessary, but for ones with many headings (as Held items will when it is completed), the aligned-right TOC allows users to view the contents of the article while allowing those users to get right to the article. --[[User:TwinsMetsFan|'''TMF''']] [[User talk:TwinsMetsFan|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/TwinsMetsFan|C]] 17:35, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
:::I think it's a good idea, and certainly helps with the held items article. For ones with less items, such as potion and ether, I agree, it's not really necessary. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 18:03, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
:[[User:TTEchidna|TTEchidna]]'s suggestion for the organization of [[List of items by type]] (at that page's talk page) makes for a good base to draft such a template. 

{| align="center" class="toccolours" cellspacing="2"
|-valign="top" bgcolor="#ccccff"
! style="font-size:100%;" align="center" colspan="2" | '''List of Items'''
|-valign="top"
! style="font-size:95%;" bgcolor="#ccccff" align="center" colspan="2" | [[List of items by index number|by index number]]
|-valign="top"
| style="font-size:90%;" bgcolor="#f0f0f0" align="center" colspan="2" | [[List of items by index number (GB)|Generation I]] | [[List of items by index number (GBC)|Generation II]] | [[List of items by index number (GBA)|Generation III]] | [[Editing List of items by index number (DS)|Generation IV]]
|-valign="top"
! style="font-size:95%;" bgcolor="#ccccff" align="center" colspan="2" | [[List of items by type|by type]]
|-valign="top"
| style="font-size:90%;" bgcolor="#f0f0f0" align="center" | Evolution Items
| style="font-size:90%;" bgcolor="#f0f0f0" align="center" | [[Evolution-inducing held item]]s | [[Evolution stone]]s
|-valign="top"
| style="font-size:90%;" bgcolor="#f0f0f0" align="center" | [[Held item|Held Items]]
| style="font-size:90%;" bgcolor="#f0f0f0" align="center" | [[Berry|Berries]] | [[EV-enhancing item]] | [[In-battle effect item]]s | [[Incense]] | [[Mail]] | [[Plate]]s & other [[Type-enhancing item|Type-enchancers]] | [[Scarf|Scarves]]
|-valign="top"
| style="font-size:90%;" bgcolor="#f0f0f0" align="center" | [[Key item|Key Items]]
| style="font-size:90%;" bgcolor="#f0f0f0" align="center" | [[List of key items in Generation I|Generation I]] | [[List of key items in Generation II|Generation II]] | [[List of key items in Generation III|Generation III]] | [[List of key items in Generation IV|Generation IV]]
|-valign="top"
| style="font-size:90%;" bgcolor="#f0f0f0" align="center" | Medicine
| style="font-size:90%;" bgcolor="#f0f0f0" align="center" | [[Drink]]s & [[Potion]]s | [[Ether]] | Herbal Medicine | [[Revive]] | [[Status ailment healing item|Status recovery]] | [[Vitamin]]s
|-valign="top"
| style="font-size:90%;" bgcolor="#f0f0f0" align="center" | Other
| style="font-size:90%;" bgcolor="#f0f0f0" align="center" | [[Decoration]]s | [[Exchangeable item| Exchangable]] & [[Valuable item]]s | [[Fossil]]s | [[Poké Ball]] | [[Repel]] | [[TM]]s & [[HM]]s
|}

: -[[User:Pdrydia|Pdrydia]] 16:46, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

==Merging articles==
Given the sheer number of Items and how simple and similar to other items many of them are, I think we can all agree that the group articles system is best, right? So, on that note, some things which need merging...
*[[Metal Coat]], obviously, needs to be merged onto the [[held items]] page.
*[[Mach Bike]] and [[Acro Bike]] - given the size of these articles, perhaps they should be added to the main [[Bicycle]] article. I mean, personally, I don't see why they were split off.
*[[Old Rod]], [[Good Rod]] and [[Super Rod]] - again, given the size of these articles, perhaps they should be merged into a Rod article.
*[[Blue Flute]] should be in a group article with other glass flutes - or, perhaps, the glass flutes, the [[Time Flute]], and the [[Poké Flute]] should be altogether. However, despite all being flutes, the glass flutes do seem quite different from the Time Flute and Poké Flute - and it isn't unusual for us to have separate article for unusual parts of an item group which more can be said about - note all the links near the bottom of the [[Poké Ball]] article. Perhaps something like that could be done for the Flute article.
Thoughts? --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 22:11, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

:Points 1 through 3: completely agree. Point 4: we should definitely create a Flute article that covers every flute. This article would be the main page for the glass flutes and would have a blurb about the Poké and Time flutes, along with a link to the main articles (using [[Template:Main]] preferably, see [[Goldenrod City]] for how I've implemented it). --[[User:TwinsMetsFan|'''TMF''']] [[User talk:TwinsMetsFan|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/TwinsMetsFan|C]] 22:32, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

::...Eh, hope you don't mind. I already merged the Rod articles into the [[Fishing]] one, and made those redirects. I maybe should've joined the project first, but I'm new here so I don't know much (though I did my research to make the redirects and headings and everything...) Now on that article we just need info on where the rods are in Sinnoh, and maybe some images too... --Memo326 15:59, 18 April 2007 (Don't know which time zone :P)

:::Doesn't seem like a very active project... Anyway, already merged the Mach and Acro Bike articles into the main [[Bicycle]] article, and made those redirects to their specific section. Also added some info on the Bike in Sinnoh and basically rewrote all of the Bicycle article... --Memo326 23:11, 11 May 2007 (Still don't know which time zone...)

::::This is Bulbapedia, all our projects are kinda slow-moving. ^^o Anyway, TTE has been disputing the idea of not giving articles to the individual items... essentially giving us one or two big overall articles (item and the list), a good number of articles for the item families, and a buttload of short individual articles. So, I eventually gave him an ultimatum... that the only way we can have the individual item articles is if people can show me that they can expand articles enough that we won't have ten billion stubs on our hands. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] ~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]] 05:03, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

:::::Eh... I think I should've read this before I merged the Nugget article into the [[Valuable item]]s one and the Heart Scale article into the [[Exchangeable item]]s one (which I made from scratch =) )... Hope it wasn't his/her (:S) work I had reverted... Anyway, I particularly think we should have these articles on groups of items rather than each individual item having its own article. I mean... that's the only thing I've been doing since I joined XD. --Memo326 23:37, 16 May 2007

::::::Update: Well, at least the Nugget article wasn't TTEchidna's. ^_^; --Memo326, like 2 seconds later.

== Items in Generation IV/Diamond Pearl ==

Some of the Item locations for the first three Generations swap between the games and grouping the entire Generations, which seems OK enough as some items are found the same way in every game in that Generation, but where there already is Diamond/Pearl information, a lot of it is tagged as Generation IV data. Considering there are likely to be quite a number of additions to Generation IV and that it can't be confirmed that the same methods will be distributed across all the games, I'd say it makes sense just to use ([[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|D/P]]) for now and, should the method ring true for every game in the Generation by the time Generation V comes along, just edit that to Generation IV instead.

I've done this with all the items in the Held Items page, but would like to put forward that it become a standard.--[[User:Doctor Oak|Doctor Oak]] 17:35, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

:This seems relevant to your project, so I thought I'd give you a heads up. There's now a [[List of key items in Generation IV]]. It could use a proofread or two and is missing out on both sprites and some descriptions of items that leave inventory after use. -[[User:Pdrydia|Pdrydia]] 23:09, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Talk:List of Key Items in Generation IV

2007-10-13T14:53:01Z

Pdrydia:

I created this using [[List of key items in Generation III]] as a template. I think I may have added too much information on things. Feel free to trim down the wordage if you find that appropriate.

What's the policy on sprites? I don't emu the game so screencapping isn't much an option. I can find most of these sprites on serebii.net, but I understand that Bulbapedia prefers unique content when possible, and for that matter I'm not sure what serebii's opinion is on that.

With that in mind, I'm not really sure about the placement of the sprite (you can only see it on SecretPotion, since that's the only one I could find an existing sprite for). Maybe a different format would work better for the list, but I wanted to go with what already existed. To that end, I kept some of the descriptions from the Gen III items that were carried over to Gen IV (for the fishing rods, for example).

The link on [[Storage Key]] actually links to the Gen III Storage Key description. Oops. Guess that needs a disam page or somesuch.
[[User:Pdrydia|Pdrydia]] 23:00, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

:Munching red links. Munch munch. Also removing the link to Storage Key, since it's kinda not useful.

:I'm thinking maybe some of these item stub pages (the ones that get linked from this page) are superfluous, without much room for expansion, but I'mma leave that for the more Bulbapedia-savvy. I'm not terribly cool with the idea of deleting pages. -[[User:Pdrydia|Pdrydia]] 14:53, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

List of Key Items in Generation IV

2007-10-13T14:49:15Z

Pdrydia:

{{incomplete}}
This is a list of all [[key items]] that are found in [[Generation IV]]. Note that some of these [[items]]--notably the [[Azure Flute]], [[Membership Card]], and [[Oak's Letter]]--cannot yet be obtained legitimately in English-language games.

==List of key items in Generation IV==


===[[Azure Flute]]===
*'''Purpose:''' Plays a melody that's beyond this world; opens the stairway to [[Arceus (Pokémon)|Arceus]].
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' The Azure Flute has not yet been made obtainable but it is assumed [[Nintendo]] will host [[List of Nintendo Pokémon promotional events|Events]] for this purpose.

===[[Bicycle]]===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows for faster travel than walking or running. You can press B to change between the 2 gear settings.
*'''Description:''' A folding Bicycle that enables much faster movement than the [[Running Shoes]].
*'''Location:''' Given to you by the owner of [[Rad Rickshaw's Cycle Shop]] in [[Eterna City]] after saving him from [[Team Galactic]].

===[[Coin Case]]===
*'''Purpose:''' Used for storing Coins from [[Veilstone Game Corner]].
*'''Description:''' A case for holding Coins obtained at the Game Corner. It holds up to 50,000 Coins.
*'''Location:''' Given to you by a [[clown]] in [[Veilstone City]].

===Coupon 1, Coupon 2, Coupon 3===
*'''Purpose:''' Coupons needed to obtain the [[Pokétch]].
*'''Description:''' A coupon to be exchanged for a [[Pokémon]] Watch (Pokétch for short). Three coupons are needed.
*'''Location:''' Each of these is given to you by a different [[clown]] in [[Jubilife City]]. They all have the same sprite, description, and function. You do not need to collect them in order.

===[[Explorer Kit]]===
*'''Purpose:''' Used for going into the [[Sinnoh]] [[The Underground|Underground]].
*'''Description:''' A bag filled with convenient tools for exploring. It provides access to the Underground.
*'''Location:''' Given to you by the [[Underground Man]] in [[Eterna City]].

===[[Fashion Case]]===
*'''Purpose:''' Stores [[Accessory|Accessories]] for [[Hearthome City]]'s [[Pokémon Super Contest|Super Contests]].
*'''Description:''' A fancy case for the tidy and organized storage of colorful [[Pokémon]] Accesories.
*'''Location:''' A man in [[Jubilife City]] will give you this.

===Galactic Key===
*'''Purpose:''' Opens the door to the [[Team Galaxy]] HQ in [[Veilstone City]].
*'''Description:''' A card key for disengaging security systems in the Galactic HQ. Losing it can result in punishment, apparently.
*'''Location:''' You can find this in [[Veilstone City]]'s Galactic Building basement.

===[[Good Rod]]===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows the player to [[fishing|fish]] in bodies of water. Better than the [[Old Rod]].
*'''Description:''' A new, good-quality fishing rod. Use it by any body of water to fish for wild aquatic Pokémon.
*'''Location:''' You can get this from a fisherman on [[Route 209]].

===Journal===
*'''Purpose:''' Records limited notes on daily gamplay. It is brought up automatically when returning to the game after 2 or more days have passed without making a new save.
*'''Description:''' A notebook that keeps a day-to-day record of your adventure so far.
*'''Location:''' Your mother will give this to you in [[Twinleaf Town]].

===[[Lunar Wing]]===
*'''Purpose:''' Give to the child of a sailor in [[Canalave City]] to wake him from his nightmare. You will then have access to both [[Iron Island]] and [[Fullmoon Island]], and [[Cresselia (Pokémon)|Cresselia]] will randomly appear in grassy patches across the map.
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' This will be left behind on [[Fullmoon Island]] after encountering Cresselia.

===[[Membership Card]]===
*'''Purpose:''' A 50-year old key for accessing the motel in [[Canalave City]]; allows access to battle [[Darkrai (Pokémon)|Darkrai]].
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' The Membership Card was obtainable at an official [[List of Nintendo Pokémon promotional events|Nintendo Event]] in Japan. As of yet it has not been made available in other countries.

===[[Oak's Letter]]===
*'''Purpose:''' A letter from [[Professor Oak]] to be taken to [[Route 224]]; allows access to battle [[Shaymin (Pokémon)|Shaymin]].
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' Oak's Letter has not yet been made obtainable but it is assumed [[Nintendo]] will host [[List of Nintendo Pokémon promotional events|Events]] for this purpose.

===Old Charm===
*'''Purpose:''' [[Cynthia]] asks you to deliver this to [[Celestic Town]]. It is made from [[Pokémon]] bones.
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' Cynthia will give this to you on [[Route 210]].

===[[Old Rod]]===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows the player to [[fishing|fish]] in bodies of water.
*'''Description:''' An old and beat-up fishing rod. Use it by any body of water to fish for wild aquatic [[Pokémon]].
*'''Location:''' A fisherman in western [[Jubilife City]] will give this to you.

===[[Pal Pad]]===
*'''Purpose:''' Stores your friends' Friend Codes.
*'''Description:''' A convenient notepad that is used for registering your friends and keeping a record of game play.
*'''Location:''' You can get this in [[Oreburgh City]]'s [[Pokémon Center]].

===Parcel===
*'''Purpose:''' A package to deliver to your [[rival]]. When you give it to him, he will give you the [[Town Map]].
*'''Description:''' A parcel entrusted in your care. You are supposed to deliver it to your childhood friend who left [[Twinleaf Town]].
*'''Location:''' Given to you in Twinleaf Town by your rival's mom.

===Poffin Case===
*'''Purpose:''' Stores the [[Poffin]] that you have created.
*'''Description:''' A case for storing Poffin cooked from [[Berry|Berries]].
*'''Location:''' Given to you in [[Hearthome City]] by the [[Pokémon Fan Club]] President.

===Point Card===
*'''Purpose:''' Stores the [[Battle Point|Battle Points]] you earn in the [[Battle Tower]].
*'''Description:''' A card that lists the Battle Points you have earned.
*'''Location:''' Given to you upon entering the [[Battle Park]].

===[[Poké Radar]]===
*'''Purpose:''' Locates hidden [[Pokémon]] in the grass; requires 50 steps to charge after use.
*'''Description:''' A tool that can search out Pokémon that are hiding in grass. Its battery is recharged as you walk.
*'''Location:''' [[Professor Oak]] gives this to you in [[Sandgem Town]] after completing the [[National Dex]].

===[[Seal]] Case===
*'''Purpose:''' Stores the Seals you collect or buy throughout the game. These can be used to create custom animations for when your [[Pokémon]] leaves its [[Poké Ball]] during battle.
*'''Description:''' A case for storing Seals that can be applied to the capsule cases of Poké Balls.
*'''Location:''' A woman in eastern [[Solaceon Town]] will give this to you.

===[[SecretPotion]]===
*'''Purpose:''' Cures the headaches of the [[Psyduck (Pokémon)|Psyducks]] who were blocking the upper section of [[Route 210]], allowing you to access that [[route]] fully.
*'''Description:''' A fantastic medicine dispensed by the pharmacy in [[Cianwood City]]. It fully heals a [[Pokémon]] of any ailment.
*'''Location:''' [[Cynthia]] gives you this at [[Valor Lakefront]].
*'''Sprite:''' [[Image:SecretPotionSprite.png]]

===[[Sprayduck]]===
*'''Purpose:''' Used to water planted [[Berries]]. If watering is done correctly, the resulting Berry Trees will have more Berries to pluck.
*'''Description:''' A watering can shaped like a [[Psyduck (Pokémon)|PSYDUCK]]. It helps promote healthy growth of Berries planted in soft soil.
*'''Location:''' You can get this from [[Floaroma Town]]'s [[Pick a Peck of Colors Flower Shop]].

===Storage Key===
*'''Purpose:''' Opens the door to the [[Team Galactic|Team Galaxy]] Warehouse.
*'''Description:''' The key to Team Galactic's sinister warehouse located at the edge of [[Veilstone City]].
*'''Location:''' Veilstone City.

===[[Suite Key]]===
*'''Purpose:''' Someone staying at the [[Hotel Grand Lake]] is looking for it; return it to her for a [[Lava Cookie]].
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' Use the [[Pokétch#Dowsing Machine|Dowsing Machine]] at [[Route 213]].

===[[Super Rod]]===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows the player to [[fishing|fish]] in bodies of water. Best Rod of all.
*'''Description:''' An awesome, high-tech fishing rod. Use it by any body of water to fish for wild aquatic [[Pokémon]].
*'''Location:''' A fisherman on [[Route 225]] will give this to you.

===[[Town Map]]===
*'''Purpose:''' Displays a map of [[Sinnoh]] and your current location. Details of [[route]]s and cities can be accessed by the touch screen.
*'''Description:''' A very convenient map that can be viewed anytime. It even shows your present location.
*'''Location:''' Your [[rival]] will give this to you in [[Jubilife City]] after you deliver the parcel.

===[[Vs Seeker]]===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows the player to to challenge [[Pokémon Trainer|Trainers]] more than once; requires 100 steps to recharge after use.
*'''Description:''' A device that indicates Trainers who want to battle. Its battery charges while you walk.
*'''Location:''' Your [[rival]] will give this to you on [[Route 207]].

===Works Key===
*'''Purpose:''' The key for accessing the [[Valley Windworks]].
*'''Description:''' A large key for operating the doors of the Valley Windworks in the canyon. It was held by a [[Team Galactic]] [[Galactic Grunt|Grunt]].
*'''Location:''' An old man will give this to you in the [[Floaroma Meadow]].

{{key}}
[[Category:Lists]]
[[Category:Items]]

Bulbapedia talk:Project ItemDex

2007-10-12T23:09:57Z

Pdrydia: /* Items in Generation IV/Diamond Pearl */

==Standards and/or infoboxes?==
I know this is a fresh project, but what kind of standards should we have for the articles? Most of the item articles will likely be like [[Potion]] and [[Held items]], with a list of items by group, so maybe these two articles (maybe Potion more than Held items) should be the basis for a standard. As for an infobox, I personally think that it would be unnecessary. What I do think is necessary, though, as I said at [[Talk:Items]], is a footer template that links the articles. --[[User:TwinsMetsFan|'''TMF''']] [[User talk:TwinsMetsFan|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/TwinsMetsFan|C]] 21:03, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
:Concur'd. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 22:11, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
::Pie, what do you think of having the TOC aligned right like I have it set up on [[Held items]]? For shorter articles, this wouldn't be necessary, but for ones with many headings (as Held items will when it is completed), the aligned-right TOC allows users to view the contents of the article while allowing those users to get right to the article. --[[User:TwinsMetsFan|'''TMF''']] [[User talk:TwinsMetsFan|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/TwinsMetsFan|C]] 17:35, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
:::I think it's a good idea, and certainly helps with the held items article. For ones with less items, such as potion and ether, I agree, it's not really necessary. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 18:03, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

==Merging articles==
Given the sheer number of Items and how simple and similar to other items many of them are, I think we can all agree that the group articles system is best, right? So, on that note, some things which need merging...
*[[Metal Coat]], obviously, needs to be merged onto the [[held items]] page.
*[[Mach Bike]] and [[Acro Bike]] - given the size of these articles, perhaps they should be added to the main [[Bicycle]] article. I mean, personally, I don't see why they were split off.
*[[Old Rod]], [[Good Rod]] and [[Super Rod]] - again, given the size of these articles, perhaps they should be merged into a Rod article.
*[[Blue Flute]] should be in a group article with other glass flutes - or, perhaps, the glass flutes, the [[Time Flute]], and the [[Poké Flute]] should be altogether. However, despite all being flutes, the glass flutes do seem quite different from the Time Flute and Poké Flute - and it isn't unusual for us to have separate article for unusual parts of an item group which more can be said about - note all the links near the bottom of the [[Poké Ball]] article. Perhaps something like that could be done for the Flute article.
Thoughts? --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 22:11, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

:Points 1 through 3: completely agree. Point 4: we should definitely create a Flute article that covers every flute. This article would be the main page for the glass flutes and would have a blurb about the Poké and Time flutes, along with a link to the main articles (using [[Template:Main]] preferably, see [[Goldenrod City]] for how I've implemented it). --[[User:TwinsMetsFan|'''TMF''']] [[User talk:TwinsMetsFan|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/TwinsMetsFan|C]] 22:32, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

::...Eh, hope you don't mind. I already merged the Rod articles into the [[Fishing]] one, and made those redirects. I maybe should've joined the project first, but I'm new here so I don't know much (though I did my research to make the redirects and headings and everything...) Now on that article we just need info on where the rods are in Sinnoh, and maybe some images too... --Memo326 15:59, 18 April 2007 (Don't know which time zone :P)

:::Doesn't seem like a very active project... Anyway, already merged the Mach and Acro Bike articles into the main [[Bicycle]] article, and made those redirects to their specific section. Also added some info on the Bike in Sinnoh and basically rewrote all of the Bicycle article... --Memo326 23:11, 11 May 2007 (Still don't know which time zone...)

::::This is Bulbapedia, all our projects are kinda slow-moving. ^^o Anyway, TTE has been disputing the idea of not giving articles to the individual items... essentially giving us one or two big overall articles (item and the list), a good number of articles for the item families, and a buttload of short individual articles. So, I eventually gave him an ultimatum... that the only way we can have the individual item articles is if people can show me that they can expand articles enough that we won't have ten billion stubs on our hands. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] ~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]] 05:03, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

:::::Eh... I think I should've read this before I merged the Nugget article into the [[Valuable item]]s one and the Heart Scale article into the [[Exchangeable item]]s one (which I made from scratch =) )... Hope it wasn't his/her (:S) work I had reverted... Anyway, I particularly think we should have these articles on groups of items rather than each individual item having its own article. I mean... that's the only thing I've been doing since I joined XD. --Memo326 23:37, 16 May 2007

::::::Update: Well, at least the Nugget article wasn't TTEchidna's. ^_^; --Memo326, like 2 seconds later.

== Items in Generation IV/Diamond Pearl ==

Some of the Item locations for the first three Generations swap between the games and grouping the entire Generations, which seems OK enough as some items are found the same way in every game in that Generation, but where there already is Diamond/Pearl information, a lot of it is tagged as Generation IV data. Considering there are likely to be quite a number of additions to Generation IV and that it can't be confirmed that the same methods will be distributed across all the games, I'd say it makes sense just to use ([[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|D/P]]) for now and, should the method ring true for every game in the Generation by the time Generation V comes along, just edit that to Generation IV instead.

I've done this with all the items in the Held Items page, but would like to put forward that it become a standard.--[[User:Doctor Oak|Doctor Oak]] 17:35, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

:This seems relevant to your project, so I thought I'd give you a heads up. There's now a [[List of key items in Generation IV]]. It could use a proofread or two and is missing out on both sprites and some descriptions of items that leave inventory after use. -[[User:Pdrydia|Pdrydia]] 23:09, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Talk:List of Key Items in Generation IV

2007-10-12T23:00:31Z

Pdrydia: New page: I created this using List of key items in Generation III as a template. I think I may have added too much information on things. Feel free to trim down the wordage if you find that app...

List of Key Items in Generation IV

2007-10-12T22:41:59Z

Pdrydia: based off the page List of key items in Generation III

{{incomplete}}
This is a list of all [[key items]] that are found in [[Generation IV]]. Note that some of these [[items]]--notably the [[Azure Flute]], [[Membership Card]], and [[Oak's Letter]]--cannot yet be obtained legitimately in English-language games.

==List of key items in Generation IV==


===[[Azure Flute]]===
*'''Purpose:''' Plays a melody that's beyond this world; opens the stairway to [[Arceus (Pokémon)|Arceus]].
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' The Azure Flute has not yet been made obtainable but it is assumed [[Nintendo]] will host [[List of Nintendo Pokémon promotional events|Events]] for this purpose.

===[[Bicycle]]===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows for faster travel than walking or running. You can press B to change between the 2 gear settings.
*'''Description:''' A folding Bicycle that enables much faster movement than the [[Running Shoes]].
*'''Location:''' Given to you by the owner of [[Rad Rickshaw's Cycle Shop]] in [[Eterna City]] after saving him from [[Team Galactic]].

===[[Coin Case]]===
*'''Purpose:''' Used for storing Coins from [[Veilstone Game Corner]].
*'''Description:''' A case for holding Coins obtained at the Game Corner. It holds up to 50,000 Coins.
*'''Location:''' Given to you by a [[clown]] in [[Veilstone City]].

===Coupon 1, Coupon 2, Coupon 3===
*'''Purpose:''' Coupons needed to obtain the [[Pokétch]].
*'''Description:''' A coupon to be exchanged for a [[Pokémon]] Watch (Pokétch for short). Three coupons are needed.
*'''Location:''' Each of these is given to you by a different [[clown]] in [[Jubilife City]]. They all have the same sprite, description, and function. You do not need to collect them in order.

===[[Explorer Kit]]===
*'''Purpose:''' Used for going into the [[Sinnoh]] [[The Underground|Underground]].
*'''Description:''' A bag filled with convenient tools for exploring. It provides access to the Underground.
*'''Location:''' Given to you by the [[Underground Man]] in [[Eterna City]].

===[[Fashion Case]]===
*'''Purpose:''' Stores [[Accessory|Accessories]] for [[Hearthome City]]'s [[Pokémon Super Contest|Super Contests]].
*'''Description:''' A fancy case for the tidy and organized storage of colorful [[Pokémon]] Accesories.
*'''Location:''' A man in [[Jubilife City]] will give you this.

===[[Galactic Key]]===
*'''Purpose:''' Opens the door to the [[Team Galaxy]] HQ in [[Veilstone City]].
*'''Description:''' A card key for disengaging security systems in the Galactic HQ. Losing it can result in punishment, apparently.
*'''Location:''' You can find this in [[Veilstone City]]'s Galactic Building basement.

===[[Good Rod]]===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows the player to [[fishing|fish]] in bodies of water. Better than the [[Old Rod]].
*'''Description:''' A new, good-quality fishing rod. Use it by any body of water to fish for wild aquatic Pokémon.
*'''Location:''' You can get this from a fisherman on [[Route 209]].

===[[Journal]]===
*'''Purpose:''' Records limited notes on daily gamplay. It is brought up automatically when returning to the game after 2 or more days have passed without making a new save.
*'''Description:''' A notebook that keeps a day-to-day record of your adventure so far.
*'''Location:''' Your mother will give this to you in [[Twinleaf Town]].

===[[Lunar Wing]]===
*'''Purpose:''' Give to the child of a sailor in [[Canalave City]] to wake him from his nightmare. You will then have access to both [[Iron Island]] and [[Fullmoon Island]], and [[Cresselia (Pokémon)|Cresselia]] will randomly appear in grassy patches across the map.
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' This will be left behind on [[Fullmoon Island]] after encountering Cresselia.

===[[Membership Card]]===
*'''Purpose:''' A 50-year old key for accessing the motel in [[Canalave City]]; allows access to battle [[Darkrai (Pokémon)|Darkrai]].
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' The Membership Card was obtainable at an official [[List of Nintendo Pokémon promotional events|Nintendo Event]] in Japan. As of yet it has not been made available in other countries.

===[[Oak's Letter]]===
*'''Purpose:''' A letter from [[Professor Oak]] to be taken to [[Route 224]]; allows access to battle [[Shaymin (Pokémon)|Shaymin]].
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' Oak's Letter has not yet been made obtainable but it is assumed [[Nintendo]] will host [[List of Nintendo Pokémon promotional events|Events]] for this purpose.

===[[Old Charm]]===
*'''Purpose:''' [[Cynthia]] asks you to deliver this to [[Celestic Town]]. It is made from [[Pokémon]] bones.
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' Cynthia will give this to you on [[Route 210]].

===[[Old Rod]]===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows the player to [[fishing|fish]] in bodies of water.
*'''Description:''' An old and beat-up fishing rod. Use it by any body of water to fish for wild aquatic [[Pokémon]].
*'''Location:''' A fisherman in western [[Jubilife City]] will give this to you.

===[[Pal Pad]]===
*'''Purpose:''' Stores your friends' Friend Codes.
*'''Description:''' A convenient notepad that is used for registering your friends and keeping a record of game play.
*'''Location:''' You can get this in [[Oreburgh City]]'s [[Pokémon Center]].

===[[Parcel]]===
*'''Purpose:''' A package to deliver to your [[rival]]. When you give it to him, he will give you the [[Town Map]].
*'''Description:''' A parcel entrusted in your care. You are supposed to deliver it to your childhood friend who left [[Twinleaf Town]].
*'''Location:''' Given to you in Twinleaf Town by your rival's mom.

===[[Poffin Case]]===
*'''Purpose:''' Stores the [[Poffin]] that you have created.
*'''Description:''' A case for storing Poffin cooked from [[Berry|Berries]].
*'''Location:''' Given to you in [[Hearthome City]] by the [[Pokémon Fan Club]] President.

===[[Point Card]]===
*'''Purpose:''' Stores the [[Battle Point|Battle Points]] you earn in the [[Battle Tower]].
*'''Description:''' A card that lists the Battle Points you have earned.
*'''Location:''' Given to you upon entering the [[Battle Park]].

===[[Poké Radar]]===
*'''Purpose:''' Locates hidden [[Pokémon]] in the grass; requires 50 steps to charge after use.
*'''Description:''' A tool that can search out Pokémon that are hiding in grass. Its battery is recharged as you walk.
*'''Location:''' [[Professor Oak]] gives this to you in [[Sandgem Town]] after completing the [[National Dex]].

===[[Seal Case]]===
*'''Purpose:''' Stores the [[Seals]] which can be used to create custom animations for when your [[Pokémon]] leaves its [[Poké Ball]] during battle.
*'''Description:''' A case for storing Seals that can be applied to the capsule cases of Poké Balls.
*'''Location:''' A woman in eastern [[Solaceon Town]] will give this to you.

===[[SecretPotion]]===
*'''Purpose:''' Cures the headaches of the [[Psyduck (Pokémon)|Psyducks]] who were blocking the upper section of [[Route 210]], allowing you to access that [[route]] fully.
*'''Description:''' A fantastic medicine dispensed by the pharmacy in [[Cianwood City]]. It fully heals a [[Pokémon]] of any ailment.
*'''Location:''' [[Cynthia]] gives you this at [[Valor Lakefront]].
*'''Sprite:''' [[Image:SecretPotionSprite.png]]

===[[Sprayduck]]===
*'''Purpose:''' Used to water planted [[Berries]]. If watering is done correctly, the resulting Berry Trees will have more Berries to pluck.
*'''Description:''' A watering can shaped like a [[Psyduck (Pokémon)|PSYDUCK]]. It helps promote healthy growth of Berries planted in soft soil.
*'''Location:''' You can get this from [[Floaroma Town]]'s [[Pick a Peck of Colors Flower Shop]].

===[[Storage Key]]===
*'''Purpose:''' Opens the door to the [[Team Galactic|Team Galaxy]] Warehouse.
*'''Description:''' The key to Team Galactic's sinister warehouse located at the edge of [[Veilstone City]].
*'''Location:''' Veilstone City.

===[[Suite Key]]===
*'''Purpose:''' Someone staying at the [[Hotel Grand Lake]] is looking for it; return it to her for a [[Lava Cookie]].
*'''Description:'''
*'''Location:''' Use the [[Pokétch#Dowsing Machine|Dowsing Machine]] at [[Route 213]].

===[[Super Rod]]===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows the player to [[fishing|fish]] in bodies of water. Best Rod of all.
*'''Description:''' An awesome, high-tech fishing rod. Use it by any body of water to fish for wild aquatic [[Pokémon]].
*'''Location:''' A fisherman on [[Route 225]] will give this to you.

===[[Town Map]]===
*'''Purpose:''' Displays a map of [[Sinnoh]] and your current location. Details of [[route]]s and cities can be accessed by the touch screen.
*'''Description:''' A very convenient map that can be viewed anytime. It even shows your present location.
*'''Location:''' Your [[rival]] will give this to you in [[Jubilife City]] after you deliver the [[parcel]].

===[[Vs Seeker]]===
*'''Purpose:''' Allows the player to to challenge [[Pokémon Trainer|Trainers]] more than once; requires 100 steps to recharge after use.
*'''Description:''' A device that indicates Trainers who want to battle. Its battery charges while you walk.
*'''Location:''' Your [[rival]] will give this to you on [[Route 207]].

===[[Works Key]]===
*'''Purpose:''' The key for accessing the [[Valley Windworks]].
*'''Description:''' A large key for operating the doors of the Valley Windworks in the canyon. It was held by a [[Team Galactic]] [[Galactic Grunt|Grunt]].
*'''Location:''' An old man will give this to you in the [[Floaroma Meadow]].

{{key}}
[[Category:Lists]]
[[Category:Items]]

User:Pdrydia

2007-09-26T20:25:23Z

Pdrydia:

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Talk:Error cards

2007-09-26T19:21:39Z

Pdrydia: /* Let's improve it more! */

I know there was an error on the reverse holo of a Forretress, where the Pineco picture on it was extremely light, but I can't remember what set it was in--BJG

Where should the misprinted Ancient Mew go? Nintendo promos? Or will there be a special section for Japanese errors?

== Opinions ==
The previous editor used opinions like ''VERY FEW'' which I don't think that would not meet the standards. Does anyone think so? --[[User:Agent 219|Jemar]] 05:09, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

 Thanks for improving the page! Now it will improve!--[[User:Agent 219|Jemar]] 05:42, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Could somebody please help me again on the page because there are a lot of things that are not supposed to be there.--[[User:Agent 219|Jemar]] 07:54, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Actually, some error cards are more common than their correct counterparts (for example, the misprinted [[Dark Vileplume (Team Rocket 13)|Dark Vileplume]] is actually about twice as common as the correct version).--[[User:Yoshi1001|Yoshi1001]] 15:55, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

== Let's improve it more! ==

We have been editing this page for a while. Yet it still does not meet the standards! Somebody please help us (me and the other editors)!

:I'm looking over this page and think that, before revising further, it would be very helpful to add in a brief description of the anatomy of a Pokemon:TCG card. Perhaps a labeled image or diagram, as well. This will be especially useful for readers unfamiliar with the Pokemon TCG or TCGs in general, and who may be accessing the page to learn more about the subject. The article describes errors in specific parts of the cards--the evolution box, HP's, text, attack energy cost symbols; I don't know if there are standard names for the different sections of the cards or not, official or otherwise, but it'd be good to know before heading into this. Thoughts? -[[User:Pdrydia|Pdrydia]] 19:21, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

User:Pdrydia

2007-09-26T16:47:37Z

Pdrydia:

I am currently playing [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|Pokemon Pearl]]. I have moved on from [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon|Mystery Dungeon Blue]], although I will always fondly remember Team BadlyNaméd, headed by Mudkid the [[Mudkip (Pokémon)|mudkip]] and his trusty sidekick, Bulbad the [[Bulbasaur (Pokémon)|Bulbasaur]].

User:Pdrydia

2006-10-24T04:13:59Z

Pdrydia:

I am currently playing [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon|Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Blue Rescue Team]]. This game has the distinction of being the first--and so far only--game I have reserved from a game shop. And I did it all so I could be a [[Mudkip (Pokémon)|mudkip]].

The last Pokemon game I played was either [[Pokémon Red and Blue|Red]] or [[Pokémon Red and Blue|Blue]], darned if I remember which. It was while they were still relatively new and the only pokemon games available in the U.S, so, you know. Ancient history.

User:Pdrydia

2006-10-24T04:13:22Z

Pdrydia:

I am currently playing [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon|Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Blue Rescue Team]]. This game has the distinction of being the first--and so far only--game I have reserved from a game shop. And I did it all so I could be a [[Mudkip (Pokémon)|mudkip]].

The last Pokemon game I played was either [[Pokémon Red and Blue|Red]] or [[Pokémon Red and Blue|Blue]], damned if I remember which. It was while they were still relatively new and the only pokemon games available in the U.S, so, you know. Ancient history.

Mt. Thunder

2006-10-24T03:56:03Z

Pdrydia: slight adjustments for typos, grammar

'''Mt. Thunder''' is the sixth dungeon in [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon]] and the first to feature a boss fight with a [[Legendary Pokémon]], [[Zapdos]]. As its name implies, the dungeon is inside a mountain where many of the native pokémon are electric-type.

After floor 10, the player is given an option to save and heal before continuing on to [[Mt. Thunder Peak]]. There is no chance of finding a Monster House, a shop, or a buried item in this dungeon.

=Wild Pokémon=
* Weedle
* Beedrill (Unrecruitable)
* Pidgeotto
* Nidoran M
* Growlithe
* Electabuzz (Unrecruitable)
* Gligar
* Ampharos (Unrecruitable)
* Stantler
* Electrike
* Manectric (Unrecruitable)
* Cacnea

[[Category:Pokémon Mystery Dungeon locations]]
[[Category:Mountains]]