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Talk:Desert Resort

2011-08-30T14:00:51Z

Patrickmck: /* Darunaka levels */

Are we sure Zurug and Shinbora aren't Uncommon? They appeared quite frequently to me--[[User:Shinbora|Shinbora]] 01:12, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

In the Desert, Ishizumai is Common, and at the Entrance, Zuruggu is Uncommon (At least at night). - [[User:Gardeon|Gardeon]] 00:45, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

==Darmanitan==
Just thought I'd say that you '''can''' catch more than 1 Darmanitan in the Resort Desert as long as you have another RageCandyBar. A second one can be obtained in Sekka City during the winter; meaning that with just one game, you can catch two Darmanitan, but if more are traded over, all of them can be caught. Just tried it myself, and it worked. - [[User:Ryu Shoji|Ryu Shoji]] 23/01/11, 23 January 2011 (BST).

== Cofagrigus ==

I ran into one while on the way to getting the legendary black pokemon, not really a contributor so i'm just mentioning my sighting here.
By one i mean they are pretty common, at least on the lower levels [[User:Badman27|Badman27]] 03:25, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
:Actually, you're referring to the [[Relic Castle]]. Desert Resort is the desert area outside the castle. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 19:31, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

== Darunaka levels ==

In what I belive is the entrance to the Desert Resort, I run into Darunakas' that have a level of 15. That is in my White version. Is this a glitch?[[User:Patrickmck|Patrickmck]] 13:56, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
:Nevermind.[[User:Patrickmck|Patrickmck]] 14:00, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Desert Resort

2011-08-30T13:56:21Z

Patrickmck: /* Darunaka levels */

Talk:Desert Resort

2011-08-30T13:55:49Z

Patrickmck: /* Darunaka levels */ new section

Talk:Oblivia Ruins

2011-01-05T00:56:13Z

Patrickmck:

Why is Giratina listed when it is only available via wifi in Japan?[[User:Patrickmck|Patrickmck]] 16:44, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
:[[Ranger_Net#Extra_Missions_2|Maybe because the Extra mission is only available for download in Japan?]] [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 01:59, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
::Sorry, I misread your question. The Giratina mission should become available for download in English at some point. And besides, all the Pokémon which are ever there are listed there, even the ones that are only available in certain missions, which are normally marked as "Boss only". Pokémon marked as such are not available outside of certain missions. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 03:19, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
:::Okay. Thanks. [[User:Patrickmck|Patrickmck]] 00:56, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Talk:List of event Pokémon with in-game effects

2011-01-04T20:28:25Z

Patrickmck: /* Legendary Beasts */

== Any thing about Jirachi? ==
Is their anything about the Korean and Gamestop Jirachi to get the Pokéwalker place Edge Of Nights Sky?
-[[User:?????|Any]] [[User talk:?????|Questions]][[User:?????|?????]] 14:11, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

This question has been here for a week, so, can sombody help me with adding this? -[[User:?????|Any]] [[User talk:?????|Questions]][[User:?????|?????]] 22:58, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

== Celebi ==

I assume we'll be adding it to this page when the time comes. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 19:14, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

== Legendary Beasts==

When will the beasts be added? They unlock something in Black and White... {{unsigned|Don't Hug Lucario!}}
:We know nothing about them except for the fact that they unlock something. That's it. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 12:32, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
::Now that we know that the ledgedary beasts are geting distrubed in the US could someone add it please?[[User:Patrickmck|Patrickmck]] 20:28, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

== Shouldn't we mention something about what the pokemon do? ==

Shouldn't we mention something about what the pokemon do?--[[User:Eastern|Eastern]] 20:21, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
:Yup. That's why it's already there. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 20:27, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Food (Mystery Dungeon)

2010-12-31T00:54:01Z

Patrickmck: /* Locations of Gummis */ signing

I have recently been finding Wonder Gummis in the treasure chamber in Deep Miracle Sea B3F. Should the location be added? Or is it supposed to be ground-only locations? [[User:Sidnoea|Sidnoea]] 17:30, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

== Not food items ==

Technically, Wander Gummis and Gone Pebbles are not food items- they can't be used in the Spinda's Café, for example, and it says "Use" instead of "Eat" or "Ingest". Should they be removed or left to further discussion? [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 19:48, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
:Well, the Wander Gummi is based off a food item. Maybe it can't be used in Spinda's Café because Spinda knows it's fake? It seems like a food item, and that's a decent reason to keep it here. Could even be a bit of trivia for it! Though I agree with you on the Gone Pebbles, they don't even seem like a food item. ~~ [[User:Scyther Be Awesome|Scyther Be Awesome!]] [[User talk:Scyther Be Awesome|Talk!]] 04:22, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
some pokemon eat rocks............. ([[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 05:07, 27 June 2010 (UTC))

==Locations of Gummis==

Shouldn't the article mention that the places listed are from both Mystery dungeon games on the DS? And since dungeons in the first games that are not in the sequels', what they did with the gummi?[[User:Patrickmck|Patrickmck]] 00:54, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Food (Mystery Dungeon)

2010-12-31T00:52:17Z

Patrickmck:

Talk:Oblivia Ruins

2010-12-10T16:44:06Z

Patrickmck: Created page with "Why is Giratina listed when it is only available via wifi in Japan?~~~~"

Why is Giratina listed when it is only available via wifi in Japan?[[User:Patrickmck|Patrickmck]] 16:44, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Talk:List of clothing (anime)

2010-11-07T14:34:22Z

Patrickmck: /* Pics That Are Unsatisfactory */

Is it possible to get a better picture of Misty's first outfit? :x Togepi's blocking a good chunk of it.--[[User:Biccy|Biccy]] 17:45, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

I think the only pictures of Original Series Misty are featuring Togepi.--[[User:Dawnfan47|Dawnfan47]] 16:26, 25 December 2007 (UTC)[[Image:Spr 3e 025.gif]]

== Rival Clothes ==

Should we put in rivals such as Gary, Drew, Harley, Paul, Zoey, and Kenny? If the page is too long then we could seperate it into smaller articles. One with Ash's friends, one with rivals and Team Rocket. ^-^--[[User:Dawnfan47|Dawnfan47]] 19:35, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Probably, but of the ones you listed, only Gary has changed clothes.[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|Maniac]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|102]] 19:52, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

:Yea, we should probably just add Gary in. --{{Ani|155}}{{Ani|476}}'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Sandbox|2]]'''{{Ani|473}}[[Image:Trozeiani025.gif]] 22:03, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

== Ninja ==

Being forced to be ninjas. Sounds pretty similar to 'OOPArts of the Ninja Mansion'. See Star Force 13/4. Should be one of them. THink it was ripped? '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Optimatum</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]'''19 Apr 2008

== Sleepover ==

In DP078, May, Dawn and Zoey have a sleepover at the hotel. Should their PJs b mentioned in this article?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 15:41, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
:That doesn't sound like a bad idea --[[User:Manga-in-a-bottle|Manga-in-a-bottle]] 02:06, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
::Well, we did put Ash's pajamas, so it makes sense to put their PJs.--[[User:Starlight the ampharos|Starlight_the_ampharos]] 18:45, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Oh yes, I say we should make mention of the ladies' pajamas. [[User:FlapjackStantz|FlapjackStantz]] 08:24, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

== Team Rocket's Disguses ==

Should we make a seperate article lisitng them? --[[User:Manga-in-a-bottle|Manga-in-a-bottle]] 02:05, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
:I'd say yes. Go for it. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:29, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

== Brock's Blue Clothes ==

It seems that Brock continues to wear the blue festival coat from the Croagunk episode throughout the Gym Battle episode with Crasher Wake. He is also seen leaving with it on. I doubt he'll continue to wear them, but they should be mentioned. [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 15:24, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

== Max ==

Why are the low quality swimwear pics of Max being added again and again in the article?--'''[[User:Diby|Di]]'''[[User talk:Diby|b]][[Special:Contributions/Diby|y]] 18:12, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

== Pi-Kahuna ==
In this episode, Ash, Brock and Misty all have different clothes on for a part of the episode. It's even mentioned in the Trivia section of that episode, but not here. {{unsigned|Chaos Theory}}

== Misty Pics ==
There is a set of very repetitive pictures of Misty's green bikini. There is one with just the bikini, and the other with a white jacket on top. Is it really that necessary to mention the jacket? She's never quite worn it in the series, and she discarded it pretty quickly after changing into the bikini. So is that really needed?

[[User:Cc716|Cc716]] 03:51, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

:I don't think it's needed. This was a very "minor" outfit. Sure it was clothing that she wore, but come on. It doesn't have much relevance. This article is about the outfits that the person wears within the whole series, that are very notable and have been worn for longer than a few seconds. [[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 06:36, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

== Dawn's Newest Swimsuit ==
If im not mistaken, Dawn was seen in a new bathing suit in the movie [[Arceus and the Jewel of Life]]. Should we add a picture of her in that swimsuit? - [[User:Alexa9966|Alexa9966]]
:There's no reason why you can't. -- [[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 02:11, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
:I don't know how to add a picture :( - [[User:Alexa9966|Alexa9966]]

== Ash's Newest Swimsuit ==

On Arceus and the Jewel of Life premiere, Ash wore a new swim trunks during the opening credits. Should anyone add a picture of him in that swim trunks? [[User:Bandage_scizors|Bandage_scizors]]
:Why not`, should be the question. - [[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 17:17, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

== For the main RPG players ==

I think we should make this kind of article for the Player characters of the main series RPGs, because they have atleast changed their clothes once because of the remakes or third versions. --[[User talk:Renzo493|Renzo493]] 13:25, July 14, 2010 (UTC)
:They do, but very infrequently. There's also Pokéathlon and Contest though. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 13:46, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
::So should we make it or what? If yes I'm going to need alot of help. --[[User talk:Renzo493|Renzo493]] 13:50, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

== Ash's Hair ==

should it be mentioned that ashes hair has changed color through out the series from black to a sort of blue-ish color? [[User:Angel10698|Angel10698]] 23:09, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

== I have a screenshot for a new outfit. ==

I wish to make a contribution to this article but I am unable to upload images since I am new. If anyone can help me out, that would be great.

[[User:IndigoDratini|IndigoDratini]] 23:55, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
:Good to know, but Archives is locked due to BW release. You can tell me if you want some help, I'll try to help you. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 01:09, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Great! I'm glad you can help me out. I put the picture in a separate link: [http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/4506/marchoftheexeggutorsqua.png]
[[User:IndigoDratini|IndigoDratini]] 01:04, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
:they aren't locked anymore...[[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 01:20, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

==Pics That Are Unsatisfactory==
I would really appreciate it if the pictures that are unsatisfactory do not get deleted but just improved. I hope it isn't to much to ask. On another note, should the Best Wishes section of Ash's clothing include how its different from the male charector in Black and White? I mean, Ash's jacket is zipped up, while the male chacter in Black and White is not zipped up at the bottom. I think it should also note that this is the first time Ash's jacket shows a zipper.
:Ash clothes have always different then the male character, this isn't any different. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 19:35, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
::And I think the article gives some of those differices. But I thought it missed the fact that this is the first time Ash's jacket has a zipper.[[User:Patrickmck|Patrickmck]] 14:34, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Talk:List of clothing (anime)

2010-11-03T18:02:23Z

Patrickmck:

Cilan (anime)

2010-10-21T17:00:46Z

Patrickmck: /* Character */ Based on BW006

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caption=Artwork from the ''Best Wishes'' series |
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eyes=Green |
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gender=Male |
hometown=[[Sanyou City]] |
region=[[Isshu]] |
relatives=[[Pod]], [[Corn]] (brothers)|
trainer=yes |
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leader=yes |
gym=Sanyou Gym |
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(Japanese: '''デント''' ''Dent'') is a {{ashfr|traveling partner}} of [[Ash Ketchum]].

==History==
Dent made his debut in [[BW005]] shopping in his hometown of [[Sanyou City]]. Seeing {{AP|Pikachu}} and {{TP|Iris|Kibago}}, he was intrigued, as Kibago itself is rare in Isshu, and Pikachu does not appear at all in the region. He invited Iris and Ash to the [[Sanyou Gym]], a café run by himself and his brothers [[Pod]] and [[Corn]]. When there, Ash becomes impatient quickly, and demands to battle the [[Gym Leader]], prompting the trio to introduce themselves and lead Ash to the Gym's arena.

Ash battles Pod first, with Dent serving as judge, and then, winning, Ash faces Corn. Finally, Ash faces off against Dent himself.

In [[BW006]], Dent left Sanyou City to join Ash on his journey. Much like [[Max]], who had a [[PokéNav]], and {{an|Brock}}, who had a [[Pokégear]], Dent had a [[Town Map]] for the group to use for their travels.

==Character==
Dent is a Pokémon Sommelier who can see the compatibility between a {{OBP|Pokémon|species}} and its {{pkmn|Trainer}}. He is said to have a lot of knowledge on Pokémon, a trait he shares with Ash's former companion, {{an|Brock}}. When the towns Officer Jenny and Nurse Joy appear, he doesn't hold their hands. He, like his brothers, has a habit of speaking about Pokémon in relation to plants - speaking about Ash's relation with Mijumaru as "not having bloomed."

===Pokémon===
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==Trivia==
*Dent, along with {{an|Iris}} was first revealed in silhouette in a preview for the {{series|Best Wishes}} that aired after [[DP183]] in Japan on July 1, 2010. The two were revealed in full exactly one month later during a trailer on [[Pokémon Sunday]].

{{Dent's Pokémon}}
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{{Project Anime notice|no}}
[[Category:Anime characters]]
[[Category:Ash's friends]]
[[Category:Male characters]]
[[Category:Undubbed characters]]

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User talk:Umeko/Archive 02

2010-10-13T13:38:58Z

Patrickmck: /* BW 005 Incomplete Symbosus */

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== Images on Pokémon pages ==
Is a battle screenshot preferable to no image at all when official Ken Sugimori art is not yet available for a new Pokémon? Or can I just leave the image blank for the time being since it's in the userspace? The Poké in question is [[User:Phantomjunkie/Mamanbou (Pokémon)|Mamanbou]]. Thanks!--[[User:Phantomjunkie|Phantom]][[User talk:Phantomjunkie|Junkie]] 00:45, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
:As far as I'm concerned, you can do whatever the hell you wish as long as it's in the userspace. Hell, you could even use an image of an actual {{wp|ocean sunfish}}, and I'm sure no one would care beyond being moderately repulsed by its ugliness. :P [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 00:51, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

== Are abilities? ==

Are [[ability|abilities]] part of Project Games? If they are, is there a template [[Template:Moveanime|like this]] for the abilities shown in the anime? [[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] 14:45, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
:I do believe abilities would fall under Project Games. However, such a template would fall under Project Anime, so I think you should talk to {{ut|Kenji-girl|Kenji-girl}} about this instead. :D (For what it's worth, though, I think it's a decent idea.) [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 21:50, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

== May I ask? ==
I don't know how to put pretty stuff on the user page like other people have. May you help me figure some of that information out? :3 [[User:KurosakisTwin|KurosakisTwin]] 18:33, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
:Same question, right here. The templates consistently avoid my attempts to place them upon my user page. [[User:Tailzfoxy96|Tailzfoxy96]] 04:29, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

== Card Design Contest cards ==

Hi, Umeko. Could you take a look at [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:IllusionZorua1stGradeLPromo.jpg this] and [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:IllusionZoroark3rdGradeLPromo.jpg this], and able to see what on earth the attacks say? The attacks are {{tt|Steady|I think}} Attack and Crisis Claw respectively. Thanks! '''[[Surf (move)|~~]]''''''[[User:nuva-kal|nuva]]''''''-'''[[User_talk:nuva-kal|'''kal''']] 20:56, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
:They're kind of small, but I think I'll be able to make them out later (I'm currently running my computer on battery power, and the screen isn't as bright as it could be). I'll get back to you in a few hours. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 22:07, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
:Okay, I can make out most of the text, but what I can't make out is the most crucial parts. 8D;;; I'll keep pondering over them, but I may have to wait until/if we get bigger scans. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 16:02, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
::それって「自分の場のポケモンの数ぶんコインを投げ、オモテｘ１０ダメージ。」と「相手のバトルポケモンが毒ポケモンなら、20ダメージを追加。」のように見てるでしょ？ [[User:Bluesun|Bluesun]] 04:14, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

== How Do I Do This ==

This is embarassing but how do you type a vertical line?--[[User:Dbeckelheimer6|Dbeckelheimer6]] 20:29, 9 August 2010 (UTC)Dillan Beckeheimer
:Hold "shift" while pressing the \ button (it's usually above the Enter/Return key) --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 20:31, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
Thanks:]--[[User:Dbeckelheimer6|Dbeckelheimer6]] 20:34, 9 August 2010 (UTC)Dillan Beckelheimer

== Project Games ==

What do I need to do. Any articles specifically?--[[User:Dbeckelheimer6|Dbeckelheimer6]] 20:41, 9 August 2010 (UTC)Dillan Beckelheimer
:Whatever you find that needs info added. Hoenn articles are a little lacking, if I recall correctly. I'd poke around myself to see what needs improvement, but I'm on vacation, so I can't really. ^^; [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 22:10, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
::Sorry to barge in, but did I hear someone needing help? Hmm. Depending on what games you have, if you have any of the Generation III/IV games, abilites and held items of Gym Leaders/rivals are greatly needed, as well as pay for Emerald. Anything else? Hmm. [[User:ht14/Help|Here]]. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 22:12, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

== Hey ==
See your HGSS weekly phone call subpage. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 02:11, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
:Why are you bugging me about a goddamn stupid subpage that no one cares about. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 16:02, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
:: *whines* You made it... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 03:24, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
:::I'm also on vacation. Can't you bother me about something less insignificant? [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 14:21, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

== BattrioPuckInfobox ==

use something like this:[[User_talk:Hanmac/casetest]] for shorter code, or that do you think? --[[User:Hanmac|Hanmac]] 05:46, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
:I'll look into it the next time I edit the infobox (which I was planning to be relatively soon). Thanks! [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]]

== Congratulations! Again! ==

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Congratulations, Umeko. This is particularly for your work regarding Project Battrio and all those late night translations. Keep 'em coming! —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 00:44, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
:Holy shit, gold bulba??? Thank you so much!! [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 01:36, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
:Congrats Ume! You really do deserve it for all the hard work you put in! —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 01:39, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

== Happy Birthday! ==

Hey ume, I would like to wish you a very '''happy ''24th'' birthday'''. Have a blast! and enjoy yourself. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 04:28, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
:Gee, that golden Bulba's not a bad early b'day present now, it it? Happy birthday Ume! [[User:Takharii|'''たか''']][[User talk:Takharii|'''はり''']][[Special:Contributions/Takharii|'''い''']] 05:14, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

== Romanization ==

I'm trying to romanize the Japanese name of [[Pretty Petal Flower Shop]]. The kana is フラワーショップサン・トウカ, with a direct (and translated) romanization being "Flower Shop San Touka". I've found that certain locations, like San Marino or San Francisco, are translated and spelled in kana like San Touka here. However, ''san'' can also mean "Sun" and ''touka'' "lamplight" or "transmission". Thus, I was wondering what would be the most fitting interpretation, in order to use a correct romanization, and would like to ask for your assistance. [[User:Pokemon lover|ポケモン]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|あいこうか]] 16:46, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
:To me it reads like "san" is supposed to be "saint," so the romanization that I personally would go with would be "St. Touka." I'm not so sure, though; we could probably do with more insight. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 19:34, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
::Well, it makes sense, as Touka seems to be a given name of someone or something. I wasn't aware that "saint" was also a meaning for ''san'', though. Mind if I add the romanization you suggested? We can always change it later if greater insight proves it necessary but "St. Touka" seems reasonable to me. [[User:Pokemon lover|ポケモン]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|あいこうか]] 20:00, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
:::Yeah, "san" is a loanword from Spanish (I believe; either that or Italian, probably), so while we could just go with "San" a la San Marino and San Fransisco, I think it's clearer if we go the extra mile and make it "saint." :V I am definitely open to other opinions though, if anyone is watching this discussion. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 20:39, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

:::: The translation into Saint is possible. The flower shop in Japan that writes as Saint exists though it is pronounced San.　http://www.saintjordiflowers.com/. [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 20:54, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::I wish I knew Touka was the Japanese name of Petalburg earlier... ;-; After I added the rōmaji, I went to check the history and Tina said she left it blank because she wasn't sure of the meaning of the Japanese name but that Touka was Petalburg's name in Japanese (and I rechecked it too).
:::::Thanks for the information, Sawamular. ;D [[User:Pokemon lover|ポケモン]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|あいこうか]] 20:56, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
::::::Oh duh, I knew "Touka" sounded familiar... XD [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 20:59, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::::But shall we leave it as is? If no, what should we change? x) [[User:Pokemon lover|ポケモン]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|あいこうか]] 21:05, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
::::::::I'll take care of it. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 21:20, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::Ty for everything, Umeko-chan. =) [[User:Pokemon lover|ポケモン]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|あいこうか]] 21:26, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
==Transliteration/Romanisation==
Hello, Umeko.
Is it possible to have translations and transliterations on pages, rather than one or the other?
Recently, I attempted to add some transliterations to a few pages (i.e. Protect), which were removed, even though I did not delete the original translation, but instead added the transliteration too (in this case mamoru, in italics next to the Japanese equivalent "まもる".)

I thought that this would be perhaps helpful and perhaps a little more interesting for those Pokémon fans who wish to learn the Japanese names for Pokémon, places, characters, etc.

I would be more than happy to help in any way possible,
samscarb
:Considering they're in katakana or hiragana already, the stuff should be simple to read if you know that. Kanji should of course have a furigana {{template|tt}}'d over it, like ポケットモンスターＳＰＥＣＩＡＬ金・銀 with "きん" and　"ぎん" on the kanji for Gold and Silver. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:24, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

== Request ==

Hey Ume, you know how we're like, {{tt|best friends ever, right?|I wish}} Well, I was wondering if I could use your party template thingy? They're so cool and it would {{tt|save space on my userpage|I also need somebody to put a hide option on my usertags because I don't know how}} too. Pretty please? I'll give you full credit of course.--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 06:00, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
:Sure, go for it. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 06:29, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
::{{tt|Thank you!|But I'll have to wait until tomorrow...}}--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 15:22, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
:::Um, could you possibly put it onto my page? I'm not asking you to do it all for me, just get it there for me to edit. Because when I try, it messes up my page.--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 20:51, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

== Um. ==

I've noticed a lot of people with those awesome health/HP bars on their talk pages... how is that coded? [[User:Phantomjunkie|Phantom]]♫[[User talk:Phantomjunkie|Junkie]] 16:59, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
:I don't know, I just stole the coding for TTE's and tweaked it to suit my tastes. {{u|Umeko/Archive|You can look at the coding for mine here.}} [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 17:10, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
::Okay, thanks. Could I possibly use/tweak your coding, with credit to {{tt|you|and TTE probably, since you got your coding from him}}? [[User:Phantomjunkie|Phantom]]♫[[User talk:Phantomjunkie|Junkie]] 22:15, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
:::Sure, go for it. Heck, it's been taken and tweaked so many times that I'm not sure anyone really remembers who made it originally. :P (Well, I'm sure ''someone'' remembers, but...) [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 22:20, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
::::Thanks ^^ [[User:Phantomjunkie|Phantom]]♫[[User talk:Phantomjunkie|Junkie]] 23:03, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::So I feel like a jerk right now D: There's been kind of a fiasco about the HP bar coding I borrowed from you, because {{tt|I accidentally attributed it to Jello instead of you|cause I've been a forgetful idiot the past few days}}, so yeah. I wanted to apologize and let you know that {{u|Jediknightdtv}} is using your code now as well. If that's not cool with you, you can let me or him know. I'm gonna tell him too that it was your code, not Jello's. [[User:Phantomjunkie|Phantom]]♫[[User talk:Phantomjunkie|Junkie]] 05:25, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

== 差別語はアクセス禁止とかされないの？ ==

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:CherryParanoia
こんにちわ。サトシが整形して愉快な日々だったんけど、差別語使ってる奴がいて著しく不快になったサワムラーです。
JAPという言葉を使用する人がいたんだけど、誰も注意しないんだよね。権限持ってる人にアクセス禁止とか制裁してもらえないでしょうか？それともJAPという言葉はアメリカの掲示板であるBULBAPEDIAでは大した言葉ではないんですかね？英語できてポケモン好きな日系人の子供とかが、ふとしたきっかけてああいう差別語見たら心が傷つくと思うんだよね。[[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 13:16, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

あと、こないだしてくれた英語の修正どうも有難う御座いました。[[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 13:53, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:そうね・・・微妙な事情なんです。確かに、Japは差別語ですよね。でもさ、この場合ではJapは「日本語」の略語として使っちゃった。略語としてJAやJPの方がマシだと思うけど、残念ながらときどき若者が考えずにこんな言葉使っちゃいます。悪気を持ちませんよ。そして、悪気を持たないのでアクセス禁止はちょっとひどすぎなんです。
:たぶん{{bp|Manual of Style}}とかで「日本語の略語としてJapを使わないで下さい」の警告とかを追加できて、こんな言葉を見ると「他の略語を使いなさい」と言えますが、「日本人」の略じゃなくて「日本語」の略ならば、それしかできません。
:若いの無知だけなんです。すみませんが許してください。
:ああ、このメッセージを書くのが難しかった。カオスな日本語を勘弁してくれ！！orz [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 19:37, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

::確かに日本人じゃなく日本語に対して使ってますね。だけど不快なことには変わりありませんので、CherryParanoiaさんが今後どのように行動するか見守りたいと思います。とてもヘヴンな日本語に感謝します。
::追記。[[User:TTEchidna/BW001]]の罠の犠牲になりました。「おっ！カスミ出る！」と知り、ワクワクしながら日本の掲示板に戻ったら誰もカスミについて話してない。「なにかおかしい･･･。」事実を知り、枕を濡らし叫んだ真夏の夜の出来事でした。[[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 22:57, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:::Sawamular-san, please forgive me for responding in English this time. I'm using a school computer which doesn't have the Japanese IME, so it's very difficult to type in Japanese. I hope this will translate properly if you put it through a machine translation, but if doesn't, I can explain again in Japanese in a few hours.
:::CherryParanoia actually hasn't contributed to Bulbapedia in several months, so there isn't any need to keep an eye on her in the moment. However, if she comes back and does use "Jap" again, I will be sure to speak to her about it. I will do the same for any other users that I see using that word.
:::As for the BW001 page, I'm sorry that had to happen to you. TTEchidna, our Editor-in-Chief, is very much an idiot, and he made that page as a joke. I'll be sure to scold him for it. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 23:10, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::BW001話の文に関して、これ笑いをとる意図があるんです(分かりづらくて申し訳ない) 私はBW001話の偽情報に引っかかったことを光栄に思ってます。TTEchidnaさんの罠で私は非常に楽むことができました。TTEchidnaさんを叱るのではなく、貴方の罠は優秀でしたと褒め称えるべきなんです。[[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 23:34, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
::::::Hahaha, nah, I'll scold him anyway (or I'll ask his girlfriend to do it). :P I'm glad you enjoyed his joke, but he's the kind of person who needs occasional scolding.
::::::And he also owes me a Jolteon (Thunders) Pokedoll. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 23:44, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

新しいセクション作るの勿体無いので、ここで質問させてください。bulbapediaに活発に参加してる日本人って存在するのでしょうか？梅子さんが認知している日本人が何人位居るのか知りたいんです(名前とか教えてくれなくていいですから、数だけ教えてもらえませんか)。"JAP(差別語)"とか、"日本の○島は、○年以前は日本の領土じゃなかった(間違った記述)"とか、私以外に日本人がいるならば修正されたり投稿者に注意が既にされてるずなんだけど、日本人から見た不快なものや不自然な記述への対応がされてないなー、おかしーなー、日本人ってここじゃ絶滅危惧種？と疑問に思ったんです。[[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 08:03, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
:本当に絶滅危惧種ですよ！ｗｗｗ残念だけど、サワムラーさん以外に誰も思い当たりませんね・・・まあ、Bulbapediaは英語のウィキなので、投稿者はほとんどアメリカ・カナダ・イギリスとかの子供たちなんです。（確かに大人もいるけどポケモンなんだから視聴者や投稿者はほとんど１０～１５歳の子供たちね。）管理人のArchaicさんが日本に住んだ事があって、投稿者のYaminokameさんは今日本に住んでいると思うけど、基本的にBulbapediaで日本人はいません。むしろ、日本人にはBulbapediaが知っていませんかな？２ｃｈを見るとよくセレビィネットとかを引用するけどあんまりにBulbapediaがない。
:実はね、サワムラーさんの投稿や見通しは本当に助かりましたよ！日本人の投稿者がほとんどいないのでこの前困った事がたくさんありましたよね。
:えーと、今は午前５時なのでここで失礼します。ほかの質問がありましたらあとで答えてあげれぅ～ [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 09:00, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

::まさかの0。1人くらいは権限もってる四天王の一角みたいな超強いのが居ると思ってたのに。セレビィネットが特に話題にあがるのは、新画像を分かり易い所に設置しつつ、偽ポケモンを晒して笑いをとるとか見ただけで反応できるからでしょうね。日本人は英単語は好きだけど、読むとか喋るとか書くのは苦手だから率先して海外のサイトに行こうと思わないのかな･･･。でもまあ、機械翻訳を従えた日本人軍団みたいなのが増えてもここの迷惑になるだけだと思います。俺みたいなのが増えたら梅子さん過労死しちゃいますよ。他にしたい質問は今のところ無いので、聞きたい事ができたらまた質問しにきます。いつも親切にしてくださって有難うございます。助かってるのは私のほうです。[[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 09:46, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

== Could You Help Me? ==
I've been struggling to get my signature to work, but I havn't been able to do it without the code actualy showing up as the signeture. Could you tell me what I'm doing wrong? {{unsigned|EpicShadow}}
:Uncheck the ''Treat signature as wikitext (without an automatic link)'' box just below it in your preferences. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 19:48, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
By uncheck, you mean it will not have a checkmark in it... I've already done that. [[User:EpicShadow|EpicShadow]] 20:14, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:Yes, that's what I meant. You'd be surprised how many people forget to do that. Is there a <nowiki><nowiki></nowiki> tag in the code you're putting in? If so that would be what's doing it. If not can you post what you are trying to put? [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 20:56, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:: AS you can probably tell I have no Idea what I'm doing. --[[User:EpicShadow|Epic]] </bold>’’([[User talk:EpicShadow|Shadow]]) ‘‘</bold> [[User:EpicShadow|EpicShadow]] 21:30, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
::: I would like to have "Epic in bold and color it black and have Shadow bold as well but colored blue [[User:EpicShadow|EpicShadow]] 21:32, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
::::Like this? --'''[[User:EpicShadow|Epic]]''' ('''[[User talk:EpicShadow|Shadow]]''') The code for that is <code><nowiki>--'''[[User:EpicShadow|Epic]]''' ('''[[User talk:EpicShadow|Shadow]]''')</nowiki></code> The bold needs to be done with wikicode, and for some reason your quote marks were directional. Directional quotes don't work for the code. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 00:59, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::Thats perfect, exept I don't want the brakets or space between the two words, Could you fix that and post it?. [[User:EpicShadow|EpicShadow]] 01:42, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
::::::<code><nowiki>--'''[[User:EpicShadow|Epic]][[User talk:EpicShadow|Shadow]]'''</nowiki></code> [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 01:47, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Thank you. [[User:EpicShadow|--'''[[User:EpicShadow|Epic]][[User talk:EpicShadow|Shadow]]''']] 01:54, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
Yes I did uncheck the wikitext, perhaps it is best if I just leave the signeture alone for now... [[User:EpicShadow|EpicShadow]] 01:58, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
:You're supposed to check it... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 02:02, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
:D'oh. I feel stupid now. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 03:17, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

== Explain please ==

In the [[Gym Leader]] page, why is it necessary to have Aloe's row duplicated? Or the 3rd leader's sprite using Aloe's name temporarily, for the matter? --[[User:Kaoz|Kaoz]] 19:42, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
:The third Gym Leader sprite is using Aloe's name temporarily because we don't know his/her name, so there's nothing to replace it with. Aloe's row is "duplicated" because the first one, which is visible now, has the bottom roundied, since it is currently the last one in the table. It will not be the last in the table once the others are made viewable, however, and when that happens it will have square corners on the bottom - which is that the "duplicate" is coded to do. So once the time comes to make all the leaders viewable, the first "duplicate" will simply be deleted. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 19:57, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
::Thanks, all clear now. Did I, by any chance, use a false cognate? I'd have sworn dupicate was a legit verb.--[[User:Kaoz|Kaoz]] 21:02, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
:::It is a legit verb, my apologies for the confusion. I used quotes because they both use different, but very similar templates - so they aren't ''exact'' duplicates. XD; [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 21:58, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

== Also, a request... ==

Could you look through the list of links [[Template:Isshu|here]] and make the translations better if they are bad (since it's better ensure early that the names are as good as possible)? The kana used by the game is in a comment beside each link. (I used the Rikaichan Firefox addon for them so they should be at least better than machine translations.) '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 19:32, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
:I'll do that after I'm done working on [[Hiun City]]. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 19:42, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
::Okay, great. :) '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 19:46, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

== Starters ==

[[Professor Araragi]]'s page needs to be changed, if the starters don't come from the parents. It states that she only gives the Pokédex. [[User:Phantomjunkie|Phantom]]♫[[User talk:Phantomjunkie|Junkie]] 01:51, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

==?==

Just tell me what this whole edit conflict is about, from your perspective...
You really seem to know all the olgliarchs in Bulbapedia...[[User:TheRevived|TheRevived]] 04:16, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:Basically, Bulbapedia talkpages, even user talkpages, aren't for irrelevant chatting such as that. Such discussions can be brought to the forums or email. And even if such discussion were allowed on talkpages, speculating about old trolls revolting on us really isn't productive.
:Honestly, you shouldn't have kept reverting us when we removed your message to TTE. Just because you really want something doesn't mean it's going to happen. Think about it, pretty much the entire fanbase wanted Dawn's Piplup to evolve, but did it ever happen? No! Over all 191 episodes, Piplup never evolved, not even to Prinplup, even though it should have long been an Empoleon by the end of DP! And not only did it never evolve, but the animators ''completely'' alienated the fanbase by giving Piplup that Everstone. They did this even though every single fan, without exception, wanted Piplup to evolve. They just don't care about the fans at all.
:So you shouldn't expect to get your way all the time. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 04:28, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

*clap* *clap*
–[[User:TheRevived|TheRevived]] 04:33, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

It's not about old trolls, it's about every user without a userpage. It's a popular revolt, I should say...
[[User:TheRevived|TheRevived]] 04:35, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:So you mean to tell me that every user who hasn't put aside editing the mainspace for long enough to create a userpage is going to revolt? [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 04:37, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

== help >.< ==

Sorry to bother, but I think you're really the only person who would care enough to actually change this >_< [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Talk:Emonga_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29#Pokedex_Entry_minor_edit Emonga talk page]

Thanks :) ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 19:52, 3 October 2010 (UTC))
:Done. I didn't like the term "membrane," but in the midst of my mass dex translation, it didn't occur to me to look up the technically correct term. XD [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 19:57, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
::Cool, thanks :) ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 19:58, 3 October 2010 (UTC))

== Like I said ==

The wording I revised, and there wasn't much if anything, was the things that, if you notice, give the reader the feeling that Isshu is New York. This, however, is not confirmed by anyone that actually have the authority to confirm it. The interview on Nintendo.co.jp and blog 177 on Game Freak's blog directly say : "New York is Isshu's motif". If you'll notice how many times I've pointed out that Motif does not mean Basis/Model/Stage, you would also notice how neutral I made the text while maintaining the statement "Isshu uses New York as it's motif". Please understand that I'm not saying it is not possible for Game Freak to come out later and outright say "New York is Isshu". I'm just saying it hasn't been said ''yet''. And frankly, I want Bulbapedia to be as accurate as possible. --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 02:40, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
:The wording that was there seemed pretty nuetral to me. Just leave it alone Mackinz.--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 02:42, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
:Keep your bullshit off my talkpage. You're pushing the English nuances of the word "motif" when the meaning of the Japanese loanword isn't necessarily the same. Furthermore, you aren't doing this out of respect for Bulbapedia's accuracy, but for your own personal grudge. Now drop it and kindly get your head out of your ass. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 02:45, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
::First of all, to PokeLova: ::The '''Isshu''' region (Japanese: '''イッシュ地方''' ''Isshu-chihō'') is a large area of the [[Pokémon world]] and the setting of the [[Generation V|fifth generation]] Pokémon games {{game|Black and White|s}}. It is far away from the four other large regions, and the Pokémon which inhabit Isshu are diverse and different from those of [[Kanto]], [[Johto]], [[Hoenn]], and [[Sinnoh]]. In his director's column, '''[[Junichi Masuda]] suggested that the geographical and social background for Isshu draws inspiration from {{wp|New York City}}''', although the region features rural locations as well as industrial.

::In this case, the bolded is something I checked up on. I did not see the things that were stated in this paragraph. Although, my Japanese is not perfect so maybe I did miss it.

::Although some of Isshu is '''geographically based on New York, the creators of the region took some liberties in regards to the surrounding areas.''' Clearly, the largest city in Isshu, [[Hiun City]], is based on {{wp|Lower Manhattan}}, but to the immediate north of Hiun is '''(as opposed to a continuing metropolis as in real life)''' a [[Resort Desert|vast desert]]. To the east and west of the region are large mountains. Isshu also contains many rural settlements.

::In this case, however, the bolded shows exactly the parts that '''aren't''' neutral and that I changed to neutral.

::Compare:

::Although Isshu's basis is not truly known, the creators of the region ensured us varying terrain. Clearly, the largest city in Isshu, [[Hiun City]], draws inspiration from {{wp|Lower Manhattan}}, but to the immediate north of Hiun is a [[Resort Desert|vast desert]]. To the east and west of the region are large mountains. Isshu also contains many rural settlements.

::Now to Umeko:

:::Keep your bullshit off my talkpage. You're pushing the English nuances of the word "motif" when the meaning of the Japanese loanword isn't necessarily the same. Furthermore, you aren't doing this out of respect for Bulbapedia's accuracy, but for your own personal grudge. Now drop it and kindly get your head out of your ass. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 02:45, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

::Please note, I'm not trying to start an argument with you here. You are unnecessarily angry with me. However, you are wrong. The nuances of the word motif come with the word no matter the context. The fact that motif was used proves it was meant to be used in the way it is defined. If it wasn't meant to be used the way it is defined, why would he even bother using it? Would a native Japanese speaker feel inclined to use a loanword if there's a native Japanese word that essentially means the same in his eyes? No, he would not. Junichi Masuda did not use the Japanese word "stage" like he did for Hoenn when he made the statement on the interview. He used the English loanword Motif.

::Now, my own personal grudge? Frankly, I'm keeping all of my personal beliefs about Isshu out of this discussion. There was that one time where someone asked me where I think Isshu is based off and I said it then, but I did not mention it before that or after that question ever again.

::Now please, if there are any official sources that have confirmed something beyond the level of "motif" for Isshu, post them, let me read them, and I will stop my crusade. If not, the neutral version is the one that should be used as it is more accurate to my knowledge.

::I'm sorry for all the editing. --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 02:58, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

:::http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ds/interview/irbj/vol1/index2.html#list
:::増田「はい。そこでカントー（関東）、ジョウト（関西）、ホウエン（九州）、シンオウ（北海道）という『ポケモン』の舞台になった順番で、それぞれの場所でコンサートをやらせてもらったんですけど、もし次にもう１回できるとしたらどこがいいかな？」と考えて、そのとき、ニューヨークがいいなあと思ったんです。」
:::益田は関東、関西、九州、北海道は舞台だといいます。ブログでも九州に関して舞台という言葉を使います。

:::増田　「はい。ニューヨークをモチーフにしました」
:::しかしながら、ニューヨークに関してはモチーフだと断言します。ポケモンぴあや、ブログ、上記のインタビューでも同様にモチーフという言葉は使われます。

:::一見すると増田は舞台とモチーフを区別してるようにみえるよね。[[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 06:29, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
:::モチーフの意味って日本とアメリカじゃ違うんですか？下記は日本国内でのモチーフの解説です。
:::１文学・美術などで、創作の動機となった主要な思想や題材。
:::私はMackinz of SoulSilverさんの主張に共感する部分があります。もし私が英語が堪能なら、私が問題提起してたかもしれません。機械翻訳が煩わしいので編集したくてもできない箇所が山ほどあるので、今回似たようなことを考えるMackinz of SoulSilverさんの手助けになればと考えて行動してました。ただ、今までの舞台もモチーフかと聞かれたら、私は制作者ではないので分かりませんと答えるしかないです。しかしNYはモチーフであると確定してます。[[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 08:31, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

== /* Blocked On Twitter */ ==

Hello there, Just recently discovered the anything goes Pokedex and it just has some hilarious results. For some reason I can't seem to follow you on Twitter as my account has been blocked (twitter.com/JEFFBM). Please tell me why i was blocked because i enjoyed reading your tweets especially since I'm trying to learn Japanese so I'm trying to read the tweets you post in Nihongo. Thanks in advance and keep on keeping on. [[User:JEFF|JEFF]] 17:33, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
:Whoops, I'm sorry about that! I often go through my followers list and block accounts that look like they're either bots or people who randomly added me just for plumping up their following list. I try not to block people who might legitimately be interested in what I say, but it seems that you might have gotten caught in the crossfire by accident, and for that I apologize. XD I'll unblock you now~ [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 17:41, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

== Re: [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:Kenji-girl#Knock_knock Knock knock] ==

Hey Ume, I think you might wanna look at [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Talk:Shooti#Shooty_-_Part_2 this conversion]. As you can speak Japanese fluently, so I think you can make a better decision otherwise it's just turning into a useless/forumiSH/flame war and I really don't like this drama type conversations. When you get time then please check it out, thanks. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 05:59, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
:Me being fluent in Japanese or not really has no relevance here, but if you really want my opinion, I think we should just keep it where it is for the time being. He'll be renamed when the dub comes around, and there's really no reason that "Shooty" is any more of a viable romanization than "Shooti." Keep it where it is, make a few redirects maybe, dust off your hands, wait for the dub, and then be done with it. The end. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 06:05, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
::Ok, I'll go and announce it on that dramatic talk page. Thanks for the suggestion. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 06:11, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
:::Yup. If, on the off chance, TPCi decides to keep his name, and spells it "Shooty"... then I think we can consider spelling his Japanese name with a Y. But as it stands, neither is really more or less "correct" than the other. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 06:13, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

==BW 005 Incomplete Symbosus==
Why add the template Incomplete Synopsis to a page before the episode aired?[[User:Patrickmck|Patrickmck]] 02:56, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
:Because it's incomplete. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 03:02, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
::Oh. Somehow I got the impression that the template was added after the episode has aired, but I guess not. Thanks.[[User:Patrickmck|Patrickmck]] 13:38, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

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== Images on Pokémon pages ==
Is a battle screenshot preferable to no image at all when official Ken Sugimori art is not yet available for a new Pokémon? Or can I just leave the image blank for the time being since it's in the userspace? The Poké in question is [[User:Phantomjunkie/Mamanbou (Pokémon)|Mamanbou]]. Thanks!--[[User:Phantomjunkie|Phantom]][[User talk:Phantomjunkie|Junkie]] 00:45, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
:As far as I'm concerned, you can do whatever the hell you wish as long as it's in the userspace. Hell, you could even use an image of an actual {{wp|ocean sunfish}}, and I'm sure no one would care beyond being moderately repulsed by its ugliness. :P [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 00:51, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

== Are abilities? ==

Are [[ability|abilities]] part of Project Games? If they are, is there a template [[Template:Moveanime|like this]] for the abilities shown in the anime? [[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] 14:45, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
:I do believe abilities would fall under Project Games. However, such a template would fall under Project Anime, so I think you should talk to {{ut|Kenji-girl|Kenji-girl}} about this instead. :D (For what it's worth, though, I think it's a decent idea.) [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 21:50, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

== May I ask? ==
I don't know how to put pretty stuff on the user page like other people have. May you help me figure some of that information out? :3 [[User:KurosakisTwin|KurosakisTwin]] 18:33, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
:Same question, right here. The templates consistently avoid my attempts to place them upon my user page. [[User:Tailzfoxy96|Tailzfoxy96]] 04:29, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

== Card Design Contest cards ==

Hi, Umeko. Could you take a look at [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:IllusionZorua1stGradeLPromo.jpg this] and [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:IllusionZoroark3rdGradeLPromo.jpg this], and able to see what on earth the attacks say? The attacks are {{tt|Steady|I think}} Attack and Crisis Claw respectively. Thanks! '''[[Surf (move)|~~]]''''''[[User:nuva-kal|nuva]]''''''-'''[[User_talk:nuva-kal|'''kal''']] 20:56, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
:They're kind of small, but I think I'll be able to make them out later (I'm currently running my computer on battery power, and the screen isn't as bright as it could be). I'll get back to you in a few hours. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 22:07, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
:Okay, I can make out most of the text, but what I can't make out is the most crucial parts. 8D;;; I'll keep pondering over them, but I may have to wait until/if we get bigger scans. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 16:02, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

== How Do I Do This ==

This is embarassing but how do you type a vertical line?--[[User:Dbeckelheimer6|Dbeckelheimer6]] 20:29, 9 August 2010 (UTC)Dillan Beckeheimer
:Hold "shift" while pressing the \ button (it's usually above the Enter/Return key) --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 20:31, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
Thanks:]--[[User:Dbeckelheimer6|Dbeckelheimer6]] 20:34, 9 August 2010 (UTC)Dillan Beckelheimer

== Project Games ==

What do I need to do. Any articles specifically?--[[User:Dbeckelheimer6|Dbeckelheimer6]] 20:41, 9 August 2010 (UTC)Dillan Beckelheimer
:Whatever you find that needs info added. Hoenn articles are a little lacking, if I recall correctly. I'd poke around myself to see what needs improvement, but I'm on vacation, so I can't really. ^^; [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 22:10, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
::Sorry to barge in, but did I hear someone needing help? Hmm. Depending on what games you have, if you have any of the Generation III/IV games, abilites and held items of Gym Leaders/rivals are greatly needed, as well as pay for Emerald. Anything else? Hmm. [[User:ht14/Help|Here]]. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 22:12, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

== Hey ==
See your HGSS weekly phone call subpage. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 02:11, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
:Why are you bugging me about a goddamn stupid subpage that no one cares about. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 16:02, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
:: *whines* You made it... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 03:24, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
:::I'm also on vacation. Can't you bother me about something less insignificant? [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 14:21, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

== BattrioPuckInfobox ==

use something like this:[[User_talk:Hanmac/casetest]] for shorter code, or that do you think? --[[User:Hanmac|Hanmac]] 05:46, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
:I'll look into it the next time I edit the infobox (which I was planning to be relatively soon). Thanks! [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]]

== Congratulations! Again! ==

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Congratulations, Umeko. This is particularly for your work regarding Project Battrio and all those late night translations. Keep 'em coming! —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 00:44, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
:Holy shit, gold bulba??? Thank you so much!! [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 01:36, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
:Congrats Ume! You really do deserve it for all the hard work you put in! —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 01:39, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

== Happy Birthday! ==

Hey ume, I would like to wish you a very '''happy ''24th'' birthday'''. Have a blast! and enjoy yourself. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 04:28, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
:Gee, that golden Bulba's not a bad early b'day present now, it it? Happy birthday Ume! [[User:Takharii|'''たか''']][[User talk:Takharii|'''はり''']][[Special:Contributions/Takharii|'''い''']] 05:14, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

== Romanization ==

I'm trying to romanize the Japanese name of [[Pretty Petal Flower Shop]]. The kana is フラワーショップサン・トウカ, with a direct (and translated) romanization being "Flower Shop San Touka". I've found that certain locations, like San Marino or San Francisco, are translated and spelled in kana like San Touka here. However, ''san'' can also mean "Sun" and ''touka'' "lamplight" or "transmission". Thus, I was wondering what would be the most fitting interpretation, in order to use a correct romanization, and would like to ask for your assistance. [[User:Pokemon lover|ポケモン]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|あいこうか]] 16:46, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
:To me it reads like "san" is supposed to be "saint," so the romanization that I personally would go with would be "St. Touka." I'm not so sure, though; we could probably do with more insight. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 19:34, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
::Well, it makes sense, as Touka seems to be a given name of someone or something. I wasn't aware that "saint" was also a meaning for ''san'', though. Mind if I add the romanization you suggested? We can always change it later if greater insight proves it necessary but "St. Touka" seems reasonable to me. [[User:Pokemon lover|ポケモン]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|あいこうか]] 20:00, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
:::Yeah, "san" is a loanword from Spanish (I believe; either that or Italian, probably), so while we could just go with "San" a la San Marino and San Fransisco, I think it's clearer if we go the extra mile and make it "saint." :V I am definitely open to other opinions though, if anyone is watching this discussion. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 20:39, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

:::: The translation into Saint is possible. The flower shop in Japan that writes as Saint exists though it is pronounced San.　http://www.saintjordiflowers.com/. [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 20:54, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::I wish I knew Touka was the Japanese name of Petalburg earlier... ;-; After I added the rōmaji, I went to check the history and Tina said she left it blank because she wasn't sure of the meaning of the Japanese name but that Touka was Petalburg's name in Japanese (and I rechecked it too).
:::::Thanks for the information, Sawamular. ;D [[User:Pokemon lover|ポケモン]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|あいこうか]] 20:56, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
::::::Oh duh, I knew "Touka" sounded familiar... XD [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 20:59, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::::But shall we leave it as is? If no, what should we change? x) [[User:Pokemon lover|ポケモン]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|あいこうか]] 21:05, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
::::::::I'll take care of it. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 21:20, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::Ty for everything, Umeko-chan. =) [[User:Pokemon lover|ポケモン]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|あいこうか]] 21:26, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
==Transliteration/Romanisation==
Hello, Umeko.
Is it possible to have translations and transliterations on pages, rather than one or the other?
Recently, I attempted to add some transliterations to a few pages (i.e. Protect), which were removed, even though I did not delete the original translation, but instead added the transliteration too (in this case mamoru, in italics next to the Japanese equivalent "まもる".)

I thought that this would be perhaps helpful and perhaps a little more interesting for those Pokémon fans who wish to learn the Japanese names for Pokémon, places, characters, etc.

I would be more than happy to help in any way possible,
samscarb
:Considering they're in katakana or hiragana already, the stuff should be simple to read if you know that. Kanji should of course have a furigana {{template|tt}}'d over it, like ポケットモンスターＳＰＥＣＩＡＬ金・銀 with "きん" and　"ぎん" on the kanji for Gold and Silver. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:24, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

== Request ==

Hey Ume, you know how we're like, {{tt|best friends ever, right?|I wish}} Well, I was wondering if I could use your party template thingy? They're so cool and it would {{tt|save space on my userpage|I also need somebody to put a hide option on my usertags because I don't know how}} too. Pretty please? I'll give you full credit of course.--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 06:00, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
:Sure, go for it. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 06:29, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
::{{tt|Thank you!|But I'll have to wait until tomorrow...}}--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 15:22, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
:::Um, could you possibly put it onto my page? I'm not asking you to do it all for me, just get it there for me to edit. Because when I try, it messes up my page.--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 20:51, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

== Um. ==

I've noticed a lot of people with those awesome health/HP bars on their talk pages... how is that coded? [[User:Phantomjunkie|Phantom]]♫[[User talk:Phantomjunkie|Junkie]] 16:59, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
:I don't know, I just stole the coding for TTE's and tweaked it to suit my tastes. {{u|Umeko/Archive|You can look at the coding for mine here.}} [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 17:10, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
::Okay, thanks. Could I possibly use/tweak your coding, with credit to {{tt|you|and TTE probably, since you got your coding from him}}? [[User:Phantomjunkie|Phantom]]♫[[User talk:Phantomjunkie|Junkie]] 22:15, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
:::Sure, go for it. Heck, it's been taken and tweaked so many times that I'm not sure anyone really remembers who made it originally. :P (Well, I'm sure ''someone'' remembers, but...) [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 22:20, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
::::Thanks ^^ [[User:Phantomjunkie|Phantom]]♫[[User talk:Phantomjunkie|Junkie]] 23:03, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::So I feel like a jerk right now D: There's been kind of a fiasco about the HP bar coding I borrowed from you, because {{tt|I accidentally attributed it to Jello instead of you|cause I've been a forgetful idiot the past few days}}, so yeah. I wanted to apologize and let you know that {{u|Jediknightdtv}} is using your code now as well. If that's not cool with you, you can let me or him know. I'm gonna tell him too that it was your code, not Jello's. [[User:Phantomjunkie|Phantom]]♫[[User talk:Phantomjunkie|Junkie]] 05:25, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

== 差別語はアクセス禁止とかされないの？ ==

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:CherryParanoia
こんにちわ。サトシが整形して愉快な日々だったんけど、差別語使ってる奴がいて著しく不快になったサワムラーです。
JAPという言葉を使用する人がいたんだけど、誰も注意しないんだよね。権限持ってる人にアクセス禁止とか制裁してもらえないでしょうか？それともJAPという言葉はアメリカの掲示板であるBULBAPEDIAでは大した言葉ではないんですかね？英語できてポケモン好きな日系人の子供とかが、ふとしたきっかけてああいう差別語見たら心が傷つくと思うんだよね。[[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 13:16, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

あと、こないだしてくれた英語の修正どうも有難う御座いました。[[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 13:53, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:そうね・・・微妙な事情なんです。確かに、Japは差別語ですよね。でもさ、この場合ではJapは「日本語」の略語として使っちゃった。略語としてJAやJPの方がマシだと思うけど、残念ながらときどき若者が考えずにこんな言葉使っちゃいます。悪気を持ちませんよ。そして、悪気を持たないのでアクセス禁止はちょっとひどすぎなんです。
:たぶん{{bp|Manual of Style}}とかで「日本語の略語としてJapを使わないで下さい」の警告とかを追加できて、こんな言葉を見ると「他の略語を使いなさい」と言えますが、「日本人」の略じゃなくて「日本語」の略ならば、それしかできません。
:若いの無知だけなんです。すみませんが許してください。
:ああ、このメッセージを書くのが難しかった。カオスな日本語を勘弁してくれ！！orz [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 19:37, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

::確かに日本人じゃなく日本語に対して使ってますね。だけど不快なことには変わりありませんので、CherryParanoiaさんが今後どのように行動するか見守りたいと思います。とてもヘヴンな日本語に感謝します。
::追記。[[User:TTEchidna/BW001]]の罠の犠牲になりました。「おっ！カスミ出る！」と知り、ワクワクしながら日本の掲示板に戻ったら誰もカスミについて話してない。「なにかおかしい･･･。」事実を知り、枕を濡らし叫んだ真夏の夜の出来事でした。[[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 22:57, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:::Sawamular-san, please forgive me for responding in English this time. I'm using a school computer which doesn't have the Japanese IME, so it's very difficult to type in Japanese. I hope this will translate properly if you put it through a machine translation, but if doesn't, I can explain again in Japanese in a few hours.
:::CherryParanoia actually hasn't contributed to Bulbapedia in several months, so there isn't any need to keep an eye on her in the moment. However, if she comes back and does use "Jap" again, I will be sure to speak to her about it. I will do the same for any other users that I see using that word.
:::As for the BW001 page, I'm sorry that had to happen to you. TTEchidna, our Editor-in-Chief, is very much an idiot, and he made that page as a joke. I'll be sure to scold him for it. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 23:10, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::BW001話の文に関して、これ笑いをとる意図があるんです(分かりづらくて申し訳ない) 私はBW001話の偽情報に引っかかったことを光栄に思ってます。TTEchidnaさんの罠で私は非常に楽むことができました。TTEchidnaさんを叱るのではなく、貴方の罠は優秀でしたと褒め称えるべきなんです。[[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 23:34, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
::::::Hahaha, nah, I'll scold him anyway (or I'll ask his girlfriend to do it). :P I'm glad you enjoyed his joke, but he's the kind of person who needs occasional scolding.
::::::And he also owes me a Jolteon (Thunders) Pokedoll. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 23:44, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

新しいセクション作るの勿体無いので、ここで質問させてください。bulbapediaに活発に参加してる日本人って存在するのでしょうか？梅子さんが認知している日本人が何人位居るのか知りたいんです(名前とか教えてくれなくていいですから、数だけ教えてもらえませんか)。"JAP(差別語)"とか、"日本の○島は、○年以前は日本の領土じゃなかった(間違った記述)"とか、私以外に日本人がいるならば修正されたり投稿者に注意が既にされてるずなんだけど、日本人から見た不快なものや不自然な記述への対応がされてないなー、おかしーなー、日本人ってここじゃ絶滅危惧種？と疑問に思ったんです。[[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 08:03, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
:本当に絶滅危惧種ですよ！ｗｗｗ残念だけど、サワムラーさん以外に誰も思い当たりませんね・・・まあ、Bulbapediaは英語のウィキなので、投稿者はほとんどアメリカ・カナダ・イギリスとかの子供たちなんです。（確かに大人もいるけどポケモンなんだから視聴者や投稿者はほとんど１０～１５歳の子供たちね。）管理人のArchaicさんが日本に住んだ事があって、投稿者のYaminokameさんは今日本に住んでいると思うけど、基本的にBulbapediaで日本人はいません。むしろ、日本人にはBulbapediaが知っていませんかな？２ｃｈを見るとよくセレビィネットとかを引用するけどあんまりにBulbapediaがない。
:実はね、サワムラーさんの投稿や見通しは本当に助かりましたよ！日本人の投稿者がほとんどいないのでこの前困った事がたくさんありましたよね。
:えーと、今は午前５時なのでここで失礼します。ほかの質問がありましたらあとで答えてあげれぅ～ [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 09:00, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

::まさかの0。1人くらいは権限もってる四天王の一角みたいな超強いのが居ると思ってたのに。セレビィネットが特に話題にあがるのは、新画像を分かり易い所に設置しつつ、偽ポケモンを晒して笑いをとるとか見ただけで反応できるからでしょうね。日本人は英単語は好きだけど、読むとか喋るとか書くのは苦手だから率先して海外のサイトに行こうと思わないのかな･･･。でもまあ、機械翻訳を従えた日本人軍団みたいなのが増えてもここの迷惑になるだけだと思います。俺みたいなのが増えたら梅子さん過労死しちゃいますよ。他にしたい質問は今のところ無いので、聞きたい事ができたらまた質問しにきます。いつも親切にしてくださって有難うございます。助かってるのは私のほうです。[[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 09:46, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

== Could You Help Me? ==
I've been struggling to get my signature to work, but I havn't been able to do it without the code actualy showing up as the signeture. Could you tell me what I'm doing wrong? {{unsigned|EpicShadow}}
:Uncheck the ''Treat signature as wikitext (without an automatic link)'' box just below it in your preferences. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 19:48, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
By uncheck, you mean it will not have a checkmark in it... I've already done that. [[User:EpicShadow|EpicShadow]] 20:14, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:Yes, that's what I meant. You'd be surprised how many people forget to do that. Is there a <nowiki><nowiki></nowiki> tag in the code you're putting in? If so that would be what's doing it. If not can you post what you are trying to put? [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 20:56, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:: AS you can probably tell I have no Idea what I'm doing. --[[User:EpicShadow|Epic]] </bold>’’([[User talk:EpicShadow|Shadow]]) ‘‘</bold> [[User:EpicShadow|EpicShadow]] 21:30, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
::: I would like to have "Epic in bold and color it black and have Shadow bold as well but colored blue [[User:EpicShadow|EpicShadow]] 21:32, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
::::Like this? --'''[[User:EpicShadow|Epic]]''' ('''[[User talk:EpicShadow|Shadow]]''') The code for that is <code><nowiki>--'''[[User:EpicShadow|Epic]]''' ('''[[User talk:EpicShadow|Shadow]]''')</nowiki></code> The bold needs to be done with wikicode, and for some reason your quote marks were directional. Directional quotes don't work for the code. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 00:59, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::Thats perfect, exept I don't want the brakets or space between the two words, Could you fix that and post it?. [[User:EpicShadow|EpicShadow]] 01:42, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
::::::<code><nowiki>--'''[[User:EpicShadow|Epic]][[User talk:EpicShadow|Shadow]]'''</nowiki></code> [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 01:47, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Thank you. [[User:EpicShadow|--'''[[User:EpicShadow|Epic]][[User talk:EpicShadow|Shadow]]''']] 01:54, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
Yes I did uncheck the wikitext, perhaps it is best if I just leave the signeture alone for now... [[User:EpicShadow|EpicShadow]] 01:58, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
:You're supposed to check it... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 02:02, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
:D'oh. I feel stupid now. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 03:17, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

== Explain please ==

In the [[Gym Leader]] page, why is it necessary to have Aloe's row duplicated? Or the 3rd leader's sprite using Aloe's name temporarily, for the matter? --[[User:Kaoz|Kaoz]] 19:42, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
:The third Gym Leader sprite is using Aloe's name temporarily because we don't know his/her name, so there's nothing to replace it with. Aloe's row is "duplicated" because the first one, which is visible now, has the bottom roundied, since it is currently the last one in the table. It will not be the last in the table once the others are made viewable, however, and when that happens it will have square corners on the bottom - which is that the "duplicate" is coded to do. So once the time comes to make all the leaders viewable, the first "duplicate" will simply be deleted. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 19:57, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
::Thanks, all clear now. Did I, by any chance, use a false cognate? I'd have sworn dupicate was a legit verb.--[[User:Kaoz|Kaoz]] 21:02, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
:::It is a legit verb, my apologies for the confusion. I used quotes because they both use different, but very similar templates - so they aren't ''exact'' duplicates. XD; [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 21:58, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

== Also, a request... ==

Could you look through the list of links [[Template:Isshu|here]] and make the translations better if they are bad (since it's better ensure early that the names are as good as possible)? The kana used by the game is in a comment beside each link. (I used the Rikaichan Firefox addon for them so they should be at least better than machine translations.) '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 19:32, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
:I'll do that after I'm done working on [[Hiun City]]. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 19:42, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
::Okay, great. :) '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 19:46, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

== Starters ==

[[Professor Araragi]]'s page needs to be changed, if the starters don't come from the parents. It states that she only gives the Pokédex. [[User:Phantomjunkie|Phantom]]♫[[User talk:Phantomjunkie|Junkie]] 01:51, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

==?==

Just tell me what this whole edit conflict is about, from your perspective...
You really seem to know all the olgliarchs in Bulbapedia...[[User:TheRevived|TheRevived]] 04:16, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:Basically, Bulbapedia talkpages, even user talkpages, aren't for irrelevant chatting such as that. Such discussions can be brought to the forums or email. And even if such discussion were allowed on talkpages, speculating about old trolls revolting on us really isn't productive.
:Honestly, you shouldn't have kept reverting us when we removed your message to TTE. Just because you really want something doesn't mean it's going to happen. Think about it, pretty much the entire fanbase wanted Dawn's Piplup to evolve, but did it ever happen? No! Over all 191 episodes, Piplup never evolved, not even to Prinplup, even though it should have long been an Empoleon by the end of DP! And not only did it never evolve, but the animators ''completely'' alienated the fanbase by giving Piplup that Everstone. They did this even though every single fan, without exception, wanted Piplup to evolve. They just don't care about the fans at all.
:So you shouldn't expect to get your way all the time. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 04:28, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

*clap* *clap*
–[[User:TheRevived|TheRevived]] 04:33, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

It's not about old trolls, it's about every user without a userpage. It's a popular revolt, I should say...
[[User:TheRevived|TheRevived]] 04:35, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:So you mean to tell me that every user who hasn't put aside editing the mainspace for long enough to create a userpage is going to revolt? [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 04:37, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

== help >.< ==

Sorry to bother, but I think you're really the only person who would care enough to actually change this >_< [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Talk:Emonga_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29#Pokedex_Entry_minor_edit Emonga talk page]

Thanks :) ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 19:52, 3 October 2010 (UTC))
:Done. I didn't like the term "membrane," but in the midst of my mass dex translation, it didn't occur to me to look up the technically correct term. XD [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 19:57, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
::Cool, thanks :) ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 19:58, 3 October 2010 (UTC))

== Like I said ==

The wording I revised, and there wasn't much if anything, was the things that, if you notice, give the reader the feeling that Isshu is New York. This, however, is not confirmed by anyone that actually have the authority to confirm it. The interview on Nintendo.co.jp and blog 177 on Game Freak's blog directly say : "New York is Isshu's motif". If you'll notice how many times I've pointed out that Motif does not mean Basis/Model/Stage, you would also notice how neutral I made the text while maintaining the statement "Isshu uses New York as it's motif". Please understand that I'm not saying it is not possible for Game Freak to come out later and outright say "New York is Isshu". I'm just saying it hasn't been said ''yet''. And frankly, I want Bulbapedia to be as accurate as possible. --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 02:40, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
:The wording that was there seemed pretty nuetral to me. Just leave it alone Mackinz.--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 02:42, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
:Keep your bullshit off my talkpage. You're pushing the English nuances of the word "motif" when the meaning of the Japanese loanword isn't necessarily the same. Furthermore, you aren't doing this out of respect for Bulbapedia's accuracy, but for your own personal grudge. Now drop it and kindly get your head out of your ass. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 02:45, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
::First of all, to PokeLova: ::The '''Isshu''' region (Japanese: '''イッシュ地方''' ''Isshu-chihō'') is a large area of the [[Pokémon world]] and the setting of the [[Generation V|fifth generation]] Pokémon games {{game|Black and White|s}}. It is far away from the four other large regions, and the Pokémon which inhabit Isshu are diverse and different from those of [[Kanto]], [[Johto]], [[Hoenn]], and [[Sinnoh]]. In his director's column, '''[[Junichi Masuda]] suggested that the geographical and social background for Isshu draws inspiration from {{wp|New York City}}''', although the region features rural locations as well as industrial.

::In this case, the bolded is something I checked up on. I did not see the things that were stated in this paragraph. Although, my Japanese is not perfect so maybe I did miss it.

::Although some of Isshu is '''geographically based on New York, the creators of the region took some liberties in regards to the surrounding areas.''' Clearly, the largest city in Isshu, [[Hiun City]], is based on {{wp|Lower Manhattan}}, but to the immediate north of Hiun is '''(as opposed to a continuing metropolis as in real life)''' a [[Resort Desert|vast desert]]. To the east and west of the region are large mountains. Isshu also contains many rural settlements.

::In this case, however, the bolded shows exactly the parts that '''aren't''' neutral and that I changed to neutral.

::Compare:

::Although Isshu's basis is not truly known, the creators of the region ensured us varying terrain. Clearly, the largest city in Isshu, [[Hiun City]], draws inspiration from {{wp|Lower Manhattan}}, but to the immediate north of Hiun is a [[Resort Desert|vast desert]]. To the east and west of the region are large mountains. Isshu also contains many rural settlements.

::Now to Umeko:

:::Keep your bullshit off my talkpage. You're pushing the English nuances of the word "motif" when the meaning of the Japanese loanword isn't necessarily the same. Furthermore, you aren't doing this out of respect for Bulbapedia's accuracy, but for your own personal grudge. Now drop it and kindly get your head out of your ass. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 02:45, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

::Please note, I'm not trying to start an argument with you here. You are unnecessarily angry with me. However, you are wrong. The nuances of the word motif come with the word no matter the context. The fact that motif was used proves it was meant to be used in the way it is defined. If it wasn't meant to be used the way it is defined, why would he even bother using it? Would a native Japanese speaker feel inclined to use a loanword if there's a native Japanese word that essentially means the same in his eyes? No, he would not. Junichi Masuda did not use the Japanese word "stage" like he did for Hoenn when he made the statement on the interview. He used the English loanword Motif.

::Now, my own personal grudge? Frankly, I'm keeping all of my personal beliefs about Isshu out of this discussion. There was that one time where someone asked me where I think Isshu is based off and I said it then, but I did not mention it before that or after that question ever again.

::Now please, if there are any official sources that have confirmed something beyond the level of "motif" for Isshu, post them, let me read them, and I will stop my crusade. If not, the neutral version is the one that should be used as it is more accurate to my knowledge.

::I'm sorry for all the editing. --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 02:58, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

:::http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ds/interview/irbj/vol1/index2.html#list
:::増田「はい。そこでカントー（関東）、ジョウト（関西）、ホウエン（九州）、シンオウ（北海道）という『ポケモン』の舞台になった順番で、それぞれの場所でコンサートをやらせてもらったんですけど、もし次にもう１回できるとしたらどこがいいかな？」と考えて、そのとき、ニューヨークがいいなあと思ったんです。」
:::益田は関東、関西、九州、北海道は舞台だといいます。ブログでも九州に関して舞台という言葉を使います。

:::増田　「はい。ニューヨークをモチーフにしました」
:::しかしながら、ニューヨークに関してはモチーフだと断言します。ポケモンぴあや、ブログ、上記のインタビューでも同様にモチーフという言葉は使われます。

:::一見すると増田は舞台とモチーフを区別してるようにみえるよね。[[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 06:29, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
:::モチーフの意味って日本とアメリカじゃ違うんですか？下記は日本国内でのモチーフの解説です。
:::１文学・美術などで、創作の動機となった主要な思想や題材。
:::私はMackinz of SoulSilverさんの主張に共感する部分があります。もし私が英語が堪能なら、私が問題提起してたかもしれません。機械翻訳が煩わしいので編集したくてもできない箇所が山ほどあるので、今回似たようなことを考えるMackinz of SoulSilverさんの手助けになればと考えて行動してました。ただ、今までの舞台もモチーフかと聞かれたら、私は制作者ではないので分かりませんと答えるしかないです。しかしNYはモチーフであると確定してます。[[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 08:31, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

== /* Blocked On Twitter */ ==

Hello there, Just recently discovered the anything goes Pokedex and it just has some hilarious results. For some reason I can't seem to follow you on Twitter as my account has been blocked (twitter.com/JEFFBM). Please tell me why i was blocked because i enjoyed reading your tweets especially since I'm trying to learn Japanese so I'm trying to read the tweets you post in Nihongo. Thanks in advance and keep on keeping on. [[User:JEFF|JEFF]] 17:33, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
:Whoops, I'm sorry about that! I often go through my followers list and block accounts that look like they're either bots or people who randomly added me just for plumping up their following list. I try not to block people who might legitimately be interested in what I say, but it seems that you might have gotten caught in the crossfire by accident, and for that I apologize. XD I'll unblock you now~ [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 17:41, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

== Re: [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:Kenji-girl#Knock_knock Knock knock] ==

Hey Ume, I think you might wanna look at [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Talk:Shooti#Shooty_-_Part_2 this conversion]. As you can speak Japanese fluently, so I think you can make a better decision otherwise it's just turning into a useless/forumiSH/flame war and I really don't like this drama type conversations. When you get time then please check it out, thanks. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 05:59, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
:Me being fluent in Japanese or not really has no relevance here, but if you really want my opinion, I think we should just keep it where it is for the time being. He'll be renamed when the dub comes around, and there's really no reason that "Shooty" is any more of a viable romanization than "Shooti." Keep it where it is, make a few redirects maybe, dust off your hands, wait for the dub, and then be done with it. The end. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 06:05, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
::Ok, I'll go and announce it on that dramatic talk page. Thanks for the suggestion. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 06:11, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
:::Yup. If, on the off chance, TPCi decides to keep his name, and spells it "Shooty"... then I think we can consider spelling his Japanese name with a Y. But as it stands, neither is really more or less "correct" than the other. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 06:13, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

==BW 005 Incomplete Symbosus==
Why add the template Incomplete Synopsis to a page before the episode aired?[[User:Patrickmck|Patrickmck]] 02:56, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

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== Images on Pokémon pages ==
Is a battle screenshot preferable to no image at all when official Ken Sugimori art is not yet available for a new Pokémon? Or can I just leave the image blank for the time being since it's in the userspace? The Poké in question is [[User:Phantomjunkie/Mamanbou (Pokémon)|Mamanbou]]. Thanks!--[[User:Phantomjunkie|Phantom]][[User talk:Phantomjunkie|Junkie]] 00:45, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
:As far as I'm concerned, you can do whatever the hell you wish as long as it's in the userspace. Hell, you could even use an image of an actual {{wp|ocean sunfish}}, and I'm sure no one would care beyond being moderately repulsed by its ugliness. :P [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 00:51, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

== Are abilities? ==

Are [[ability|abilities]] part of Project Games? If they are, is there a template [[Template:Moveanime|like this]] for the abilities shown in the anime? [[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] 14:45, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
:I do believe abilities would fall under Project Games. However, such a template would fall under Project Anime, so I think you should talk to {{ut|Kenji-girl|Kenji-girl}} about this instead. :D (For what it's worth, though, I think it's a decent idea.) [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 21:50, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

== May I ask? ==
I don't know how to put pretty stuff on the user page like other people have. May you help me figure some of that information out? :3 [[User:KurosakisTwin|KurosakisTwin]] 18:33, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
:Same question, right here. The templates consistently avoid my attempts to place them upon my user page. [[User:Tailzfoxy96|Tailzfoxy96]] 04:29, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

== Card Design Contest cards ==

Hi, Umeko. Could you take a look at [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:IllusionZorua1stGradeLPromo.jpg this] and [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:IllusionZoroark3rdGradeLPromo.jpg this], and able to see what on earth the attacks say? The attacks are {{tt|Steady|I think}} Attack and Crisis Claw respectively. Thanks! '''[[Surf (move)|~~]]''''''[[User:nuva-kal|nuva]]''''''-'''[[User_talk:nuva-kal|'''kal''']] 20:56, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
:They're kind of small, but I think I'll be able to make them out later (I'm currently running my computer on battery power, and the screen isn't as bright as it could be). I'll get back to you in a few hours. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 22:07, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
:Okay, I can make out most of the text, but what I can't make out is the most crucial parts. 8D;;; I'll keep pondering over them, but I may have to wait until/if we get bigger scans. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 16:02, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

== How Do I Do This ==

This is embarassing but how do you type a vertical line?--[[User:Dbeckelheimer6|Dbeckelheimer6]] 20:29, 9 August 2010 (UTC)Dillan Beckeheimer
:Hold "shift" while pressing the \ button (it's usually above the Enter/Return key) --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 20:31, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
Thanks:]--[[User:Dbeckelheimer6|Dbeckelheimer6]] 20:34, 9 August 2010 (UTC)Dillan Beckelheimer

== Project Games ==

What do I need to do. Any articles specifically?--[[User:Dbeckelheimer6|Dbeckelheimer6]] 20:41, 9 August 2010 (UTC)Dillan Beckelheimer
:Whatever you find that needs info added. Hoenn articles are a little lacking, if I recall correctly. I'd poke around myself to see what needs improvement, but I'm on vacation, so I can't really. ^^; [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 22:10, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
::Sorry to barge in, but did I hear someone needing help? Hmm. Depending on what games you have, if you have any of the Generation III/IV games, abilites and held items of Gym Leaders/rivals are greatly needed, as well as pay for Emerald. Anything else? Hmm. [[User:ht14/Help|Here]]. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 22:12, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

== Hey ==
See your HGSS weekly phone call subpage. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 02:11, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
:Why are you bugging me about a goddamn stupid subpage that no one cares about. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 16:02, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
:: *whines* You made it... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 03:24, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
:::I'm also on vacation. Can't you bother me about something less insignificant? [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 14:21, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

== BattrioPuckInfobox ==

use something like this:[[User_talk:Hanmac/casetest]] for shorter code, or that do you think? --[[User:Hanmac|Hanmac]] 05:46, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
:I'll look into it the next time I edit the infobox (which I was planning to be relatively soon). Thanks! [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]]

== Congratulations! Again! ==

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Congratulations, Umeko. This is particularly for your work regarding Project Battrio and all those late night translations. Keep 'em coming! —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 00:44, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
:Holy shit, gold bulba??? Thank you so much!! [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 01:36, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
:Congrats Ume! You really do deserve it for all the hard work you put in! —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 01:39, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

== Happy Birthday! ==

Hey ume, I would like to wish you a very '''happy ''24th'' birthday'''. Have a blast! and enjoy yourself. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 04:28, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
:Gee, that golden Bulba's not a bad early b'day present now, it it? Happy birthday Ume! [[User:Takharii|'''たか''']][[User talk:Takharii|'''はり''']][[Special:Contributions/Takharii|'''い''']] 05:14, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

== Romanization ==

I'm trying to romanize the Japanese name of [[Pretty Petal Flower Shop]]. The kana is フラワーショップサン・トウカ, with a direct (and translated) romanization being "Flower Shop San Touka". I've found that certain locations, like San Marino or San Francisco, are translated and spelled in kana like San Touka here. However, ''san'' can also mean "Sun" and ''touka'' "lamplight" or "transmission". Thus, I was wondering what would be the most fitting interpretation, in order to use a correct romanization, and would like to ask for your assistance. [[User:Pokemon lover|ポケモン]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|あいこうか]] 16:46, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
:To me it reads like "san" is supposed to be "saint," so the romanization that I personally would go with would be "St. Touka." I'm not so sure, though; we could probably do with more insight. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 19:34, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
::Well, it makes sense, as Touka seems to be a given name of someone or something. I wasn't aware that "saint" was also a meaning for ''san'', though. Mind if I add the romanization you suggested? We can always change it later if greater insight proves it necessary but "St. Touka" seems reasonable to me. [[User:Pokemon lover|ポケモン]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|あいこうか]] 20:00, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
:::Yeah, "san" is a loanword from Spanish (I believe; either that or Italian, probably), so while we could just go with "San" a la San Marino and San Fransisco, I think it's clearer if we go the extra mile and make it "saint." :V I am definitely open to other opinions though, if anyone is watching this discussion. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 20:39, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

:::: The translation into Saint is possible. The flower shop in Japan that writes as Saint exists though it is pronounced San.　http://www.saintjordiflowers.com/. [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 20:54, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::I wish I knew Touka was the Japanese name of Petalburg earlier... ;-; After I added the rōmaji, I went to check the history and Tina said she left it blank because she wasn't sure of the meaning of the Japanese name but that Touka was Petalburg's name in Japanese (and I rechecked it too).
:::::Thanks for the information, Sawamular. ;D [[User:Pokemon lover|ポケモン]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|あいこうか]] 20:56, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
::::::Oh duh, I knew "Touka" sounded familiar... XD [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 20:59, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::::But shall we leave it as is? If no, what should we change? x) [[User:Pokemon lover|ポケモン]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|あいこうか]] 21:05, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
::::::::I'll take care of it. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 21:20, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::Ty for everything, Umeko-chan. =) [[User:Pokemon lover|ポケモン]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|あいこうか]] 21:26, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
==Transliteration/Romanisation==
Hello, Umeko.
Is it possible to have translations and transliterations on pages, rather than one or the other?
Recently, I attempted to add some transliterations to a few pages (i.e. Protect), which were removed, even though I did not delete the original translation, but instead added the transliteration too (in this case mamoru, in italics next to the Japanese equivalent "まもる".)

I thought that this would be perhaps helpful and perhaps a little more interesting for those Pokémon fans who wish to learn the Japanese names for Pokémon, places, characters, etc.

I would be more than happy to help in any way possible,
samscarb
:Considering they're in katakana or hiragana already, the stuff should be simple to read if you know that. Kanji should of course have a furigana {{template|tt}}'d over it, like ポケットモンスターＳＰＥＣＩＡＬ金・銀 with "きん" and　"ぎん" on the kanji for Gold and Silver. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:24, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

== Request ==

Hey Ume, you know how we're like, {{tt|best friends ever, right?|I wish}} Well, I was wondering if I could use your party template thingy? They're so cool and it would {{tt|save space on my userpage|I also need somebody to put a hide option on my usertags because I don't know how}} too. Pretty please? I'll give you full credit of course.--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 06:00, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
:Sure, go for it. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 06:29, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
::{{tt|Thank you!|But I'll have to wait until tomorrow...}}--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 15:22, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
:::Um, could you possibly put it onto my page? I'm not asking you to do it all for me, just get it there for me to edit. Because when I try, it messes up my page.--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 20:51, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

== Um. ==

I've noticed a lot of people with those awesome health/HP bars on their talk pages... how is that coded? [[User:Phantomjunkie|Phantom]]♫[[User talk:Phantomjunkie|Junkie]] 16:59, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
:I don't know, I just stole the coding for TTE's and tweaked it to suit my tastes. {{u|Umeko/Archive|You can look at the coding for mine here.}} [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 17:10, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
::Okay, thanks. Could I possibly use/tweak your coding, with credit to {{tt|you|and TTE probably, since you got your coding from him}}? [[User:Phantomjunkie|Phantom]]♫[[User talk:Phantomjunkie|Junkie]] 22:15, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
:::Sure, go for it. Heck, it's been taken and tweaked so many times that I'm not sure anyone really remembers who made it originally. :P (Well, I'm sure ''someone'' remembers, but...) [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 22:20, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
::::Thanks ^^ [[User:Phantomjunkie|Phantom]]♫[[User talk:Phantomjunkie|Junkie]] 23:03, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::So I feel like a jerk right now D: There's been kind of a fiasco about the HP bar coding I borrowed from you, because {{tt|I accidentally attributed it to Jello instead of you|cause I've been a forgetful idiot the past few days}}, so yeah. I wanted to apologize and let you know that {{u|Jediknightdtv}} is using your code now as well. If that's not cool with you, you can let me or him know. I'm gonna tell him too that it was your code, not Jello's. [[User:Phantomjunkie|Phantom]]♫[[User talk:Phantomjunkie|Junkie]] 05:25, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

== 差別語はアクセス禁止とかされないの？ ==

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:CherryParanoia
こんにちわ。サトシが整形して愉快な日々だったんけど、差別語使ってる奴がいて著しく不快になったサワムラーです。
JAPという言葉を使用する人がいたんだけど、誰も注意しないんだよね。権限持ってる人にアクセス禁止とか制裁してもらえないでしょうか？それともJAPという言葉はアメリカの掲示板であるBULBAPEDIAでは大した言葉ではないんですかね？英語できてポケモン好きな日系人の子供とかが、ふとしたきっかけてああいう差別語見たら心が傷つくと思うんだよね。[[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 13:16, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

あと、こないだしてくれた英語の修正どうも有難う御座いました。[[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 13:53, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:そうね・・・微妙な事情なんです。確かに、Japは差別語ですよね。でもさ、この場合ではJapは「日本語」の略語として使っちゃった。略語としてJAやJPの方がマシだと思うけど、残念ながらときどき若者が考えずにこんな言葉使っちゃいます。悪気を持ちませんよ。そして、悪気を持たないのでアクセス禁止はちょっとひどすぎなんです。
:たぶん{{bp|Manual of Style}}とかで「日本語の略語としてJapを使わないで下さい」の警告とかを追加できて、こんな言葉を見ると「他の略語を使いなさい」と言えますが、「日本人」の略じゃなくて「日本語」の略ならば、それしかできません。
:若いの無知だけなんです。すみませんが許してください。
:ああ、このメッセージを書くのが難しかった。カオスな日本語を勘弁してくれ！！orz [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 19:37, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

::確かに日本人じゃなく日本語に対して使ってますね。だけど不快なことには変わりありませんので、CherryParanoiaさんが今後どのように行動するか見守りたいと思います。とてもヘヴンな日本語に感謝します。
::追記。[[User:TTEchidna/BW001]]の罠の犠牲になりました。「おっ！カスミ出る！」と知り、ワクワクしながら日本の掲示板に戻ったら誰もカスミについて話してない。「なにかおかしい･･･。」事実を知り、枕を濡らし叫んだ真夏の夜の出来事でした。[[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 22:57, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:::Sawamular-san, please forgive me for responding in English this time. I'm using a school computer which doesn't have the Japanese IME, so it's very difficult to type in Japanese. I hope this will translate properly if you put it through a machine translation, but if doesn't, I can explain again in Japanese in a few hours.
:::CherryParanoia actually hasn't contributed to Bulbapedia in several months, so there isn't any need to keep an eye on her in the moment. However, if she comes back and does use "Jap" again, I will be sure to speak to her about it. I will do the same for any other users that I see using that word.
:::As for the BW001 page, I'm sorry that had to happen to you. TTEchidna, our Editor-in-Chief, is very much an idiot, and he made that page as a joke. I'll be sure to scold him for it. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 23:10, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::BW001話の文に関して、これ笑いをとる意図があるんです(分かりづらくて申し訳ない) 私はBW001話の偽情報に引っかかったことを光栄に思ってます。TTEchidnaさんの罠で私は非常に楽むことができました。TTEchidnaさんを叱るのではなく、貴方の罠は優秀でしたと褒め称えるべきなんです。[[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 23:34, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
::::::Hahaha, nah, I'll scold him anyway (or I'll ask his girlfriend to do it). :P I'm glad you enjoyed his joke, but he's the kind of person who needs occasional scolding.
::::::And he also owes me a Jolteon (Thunders) Pokedoll. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 23:44, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

新しいセクション作るの勿体無いので、ここで質問させてください。bulbapediaに活発に参加してる日本人って存在するのでしょうか？梅子さんが認知している日本人が何人位居るのか知りたいんです(名前とか教えてくれなくていいですから、数だけ教えてもらえませんか)。"JAP(差別語)"とか、"日本の○島は、○年以前は日本の領土じゃなかった(間違った記述)"とか、私以外に日本人がいるならば修正されたり投稿者に注意が既にされてるずなんだけど、日本人から見た不快なものや不自然な記述への対応がされてないなー、おかしーなー、日本人ってここじゃ絶滅危惧種？と疑問に思ったんです。[[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 08:03, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
:本当に絶滅危惧種ですよ！ｗｗｗ残念だけど、サワムラーさん以外に誰も思い当たりませんね・・・まあ、Bulbapediaは英語のウィキなので、投稿者はほとんどアメリカ・カナダ・イギリスとかの子供たちなんです。（確かに大人もいるけどポケモンなんだから視聴者や投稿者はほとんど１０～１５歳の子供たちね。）管理人のArchaicさんが日本に住んだ事があって、投稿者のYaminokameさんは今日本に住んでいると思うけど、基本的にBulbapediaで日本人はいません。むしろ、日本人にはBulbapediaが知っていませんかな？２ｃｈを見るとよくセレビィネットとかを引用するけどあんまりにBulbapediaがない。
:実はね、サワムラーさんの投稿や見通しは本当に助かりましたよ！日本人の投稿者がほとんどいないのでこの前困った事がたくさんありましたよね。
:えーと、今は午前５時なのでここで失礼します。ほかの質問がありましたらあとで答えてあげれぅ～ [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 09:00, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

::まさかの0。1人くらいは権限もってる四天王の一角みたいな超強いのが居ると思ってたのに。セレビィネットが特に話題にあがるのは、新画像を分かり易い所に設置しつつ、偽ポケモンを晒して笑いをとるとか見ただけで反応できるからでしょうね。日本人は英単語は好きだけど、読むとか喋るとか書くのは苦手だから率先して海外のサイトに行こうと思わないのかな･･･。でもまあ、機械翻訳を従えた日本人軍団みたいなのが増えてもここの迷惑になるだけだと思います。俺みたいなのが増えたら梅子さん過労死しちゃいますよ。他にしたい質問は今のところ無いので、聞きたい事ができたらまた質問しにきます。いつも親切にしてくださって有難うございます。助かってるのは私のほうです。[[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 09:46, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

== Could You Help Me? ==
I've been struggling to get my signature to work, but I havn't been able to do it without the code actualy showing up as the signeture. Could you tell me what I'm doing wrong? {{unsigned|EpicShadow}}
:Uncheck the ''Treat signature as wikitext (without an automatic link)'' box just below it in your preferences. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 19:48, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
By uncheck, you mean it will not have a checkmark in it... I've already done that. [[User:EpicShadow|EpicShadow]] 20:14, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:Yes, that's what I meant. You'd be surprised how many people forget to do that. Is there a <nowiki><nowiki></nowiki> tag in the code you're putting in? If so that would be what's doing it. If not can you post what you are trying to put? [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 20:56, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:: AS you can probably tell I have no Idea what I'm doing. --[[User:EpicShadow|Epic]] </bold>’’([[User talk:EpicShadow|Shadow]]) ‘‘</bold> [[User:EpicShadow|EpicShadow]] 21:30, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
::: I would like to have "Epic in bold and color it black and have Shadow bold as well but colored blue [[User:EpicShadow|EpicShadow]] 21:32, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
::::Like this? --'''[[User:EpicShadow|Epic]]''' ('''[[User talk:EpicShadow|Shadow]]''') The code for that is <code><nowiki>--'''[[User:EpicShadow|Epic]]''' ('''[[User talk:EpicShadow|Shadow]]''')</nowiki></code> The bold needs to be done with wikicode, and for some reason your quote marks were directional. Directional quotes don't work for the code. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 00:59, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::Thats perfect, exept I don't want the brakets or space between the two words, Could you fix that and post it?. [[User:EpicShadow|EpicShadow]] 01:42, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
::::::<code><nowiki>--'''[[User:EpicShadow|Epic]][[User talk:EpicShadow|Shadow]]'''</nowiki></code> [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 01:47, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Thank you. [[User:EpicShadow|--'''[[User:EpicShadow|Epic]][[User talk:EpicShadow|Shadow]]''']] 01:54, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
Yes I did uncheck the wikitext, perhaps it is best if I just leave the signeture alone for now... [[User:EpicShadow|EpicShadow]] 01:58, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
:You're supposed to check it... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 02:02, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
:D'oh. I feel stupid now. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 03:17, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

== Explain please ==

In the [[Gym Leader]] page, why is it necessary to have Aloe's row duplicated? Or the 3rd leader's sprite using Aloe's name temporarily, for the matter? --[[User:Kaoz|Kaoz]] 19:42, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
:The third Gym Leader sprite is using Aloe's name temporarily because we don't know his/her name, so there's nothing to replace it with. Aloe's row is "duplicated" because the first one, which is visible now, has the bottom roundied, since it is currently the last one in the table. It will not be the last in the table once the others are made viewable, however, and when that happens it will have square corners on the bottom - which is that the "duplicate" is coded to do. So once the time comes to make all the leaders viewable, the first "duplicate" will simply be deleted. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 19:57, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
::Thanks, all clear now. Did I, by any chance, use a false cognate? I'd have sworn dupicate was a legit verb.--[[User:Kaoz|Kaoz]] 21:02, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
:::It is a legit verb, my apologies for the confusion. I used quotes because they both use different, but very similar templates - so they aren't ''exact'' duplicates. XD; [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 21:58, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

== Also, a request... ==

Could you look through the list of links [[Template:Isshu|here]] and make the translations better if they are bad (since it's better ensure early that the names are as good as possible)? The kana used by the game is in a comment beside each link. (I used the Rikaichan Firefox addon for them so they should be at least better than machine translations.) '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 19:32, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
:I'll do that after I'm done working on [[Hiun City]]. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 19:42, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
::Okay, great. :) '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 19:46, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

== Starters ==

[[Professor Araragi]]'s page needs to be changed, if the starters don't come from the parents. It states that she only gives the Pokédex. [[User:Phantomjunkie|Phantom]]♫[[User talk:Phantomjunkie|Junkie]] 01:51, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

==?==

Just tell me what this whole edit conflict is about, from your perspective...
You really seem to know all the olgliarchs in Bulbapedia...[[User:TheRevived|TheRevived]] 04:16, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:Basically, Bulbapedia talkpages, even user talkpages, aren't for irrelevant chatting such as that. Such discussions can be brought to the forums or email. And even if such discussion were allowed on talkpages, speculating about old trolls revolting on us really isn't productive.
:Honestly, you shouldn't have kept reverting us when we removed your message to TTE. Just because you really want something doesn't mean it's going to happen. Think about it, pretty much the entire fanbase wanted Dawn's Piplup to evolve, but did it ever happen? No! Over all 191 episodes, Piplup never evolved, not even to Prinplup, even though it should have long been an Empoleon by the end of DP! And not only did it never evolve, but the animators ''completely'' alienated the fanbase by giving Piplup that Everstone. They did this even though every single fan, without exception, wanted Piplup to evolve. They just don't care about the fans at all.
:So you shouldn't expect to get your way all the time. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 04:28, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

*clap* *clap*
–[[User:TheRevived|TheRevived]] 04:33, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

It's not about old trolls, it's about every user without a userpage. It's a popular revolt, I should say...
[[User:TheRevived|TheRevived]] 04:35, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:So you mean to tell me that every user who hasn't put aside editing the mainspace for long enough to create a userpage is going to revolt? [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 04:37, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

== help >.< ==

Sorry to bother, but I think you're really the only person who would care enough to actually change this >_< [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Talk:Emonga_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29#Pokedex_Entry_minor_edit Emonga talk page]

Thanks :) ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 19:52, 3 October 2010 (UTC))
:Done. I didn't like the term "membrane," but in the midst of my mass dex translation, it didn't occur to me to look up the technically correct term. XD [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 19:57, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
::Cool, thanks :) ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 19:58, 3 October 2010 (UTC))

== Like I said ==

The wording I revised, and there wasn't much if anything, was the things that, if you notice, give the reader the feeling that Isshu is New York. This, however, is not confirmed by anyone that actually have the authority to confirm it. The interview on Nintendo.co.jp and blog 177 on Game Freak's blog directly say : "New York is Isshu's motif". If you'll notice how many times I've pointed out that Motif does not mean Basis/Model/Stage, you would also notice how neutral I made the text while maintaining the statement "Isshu uses New York as it's motif". Please understand that I'm not saying it is not possible for Game Freak to come out later and outright say "New York is Isshu". I'm just saying it hasn't been said ''yet''. And frankly, I want Bulbapedia to be as accurate as possible. --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 02:40, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
:The wording that was there seemed pretty nuetral to me. Just leave it alone Mackinz.--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 02:42, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
:Keep your bullshit off my talkpage. You're pushing the English nuances of the word "motif" when the meaning of the Japanese loanword isn't necessarily the same. Furthermore, you aren't doing this out of respect for Bulbapedia's accuracy, but for your own personal grudge. Now drop it and kindly get your head out of your ass. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 02:45, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
::First of all, to PokeLova: ::The '''Isshu''' region (Japanese: '''イッシュ地方''' ''Isshu-chihō'') is a large area of the [[Pokémon world]] and the setting of the [[Generation V|fifth generation]] Pokémon games {{game|Black and White|s}}. It is far away from the four other large regions, and the Pokémon which inhabit Isshu are diverse and different from those of [[Kanto]], [[Johto]], [[Hoenn]], and [[Sinnoh]]. In his director's column, '''[[Junichi Masuda]] suggested that the geographical and social background for Isshu draws inspiration from {{wp|New York City}}''', although the region features rural locations as well as industrial.

::In this case, the bolded is something I checked up on. I did not see the things that were stated in this paragraph. Although, my Japanese is not perfect so maybe I did miss it.

::Although some of Isshu is '''geographically based on New York, the creators of the region took some liberties in regards to the surrounding areas.''' Clearly, the largest city in Isshu, [[Hiun City]], is based on {{wp|Lower Manhattan}}, but to the immediate north of Hiun is '''(as opposed to a continuing metropolis as in real life)''' a [[Resort Desert|vast desert]]. To the east and west of the region are large mountains. Isshu also contains many rural settlements.

::In this case, however, the bolded shows exactly the parts that '''aren't''' neutral and that I changed to neutral.

::Compare:

::Although Isshu's basis is not truly known, the creators of the region ensured us varying terrain. Clearly, the largest city in Isshu, [[Hiun City]], draws inspiration from {{wp|Lower Manhattan}}, but to the immediate north of Hiun is a [[Resort Desert|vast desert]]. To the east and west of the region are large mountains. Isshu also contains many rural settlements.

::Now to Umeko:

:::Keep your bullshit off my talkpage. You're pushing the English nuances of the word "motif" when the meaning of the Japanese loanword isn't necessarily the same. Furthermore, you aren't doing this out of respect for Bulbapedia's accuracy, but for your own personal grudge. Now drop it and kindly get your head out of your ass. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 02:45, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

::Please note, I'm not trying to start an argument with you here. You are unnecessarily angry with me. However, you are wrong. The nuances of the word motif come with the word no matter the context. The fact that motif was used proves it was meant to be used in the way it is defined. If it wasn't meant to be used the way it is defined, why would he even bother using it? Would a native Japanese speaker feel inclined to use a loanword if there's a native Japanese word that essentially means the same in his eyes? No, he would not. Junichi Masuda did not use the Japanese word "stage" like he did for Hoenn when he made the statement on the interview. He used the English loanword Motif.

::Now, my own personal grudge? Frankly, I'm keeping all of my personal beliefs about Isshu out of this discussion. There was that one time where someone asked me where I think Isshu is based off and I said it then, but I did not mention it before that or after that question ever again.

::Now please, if there are any official sources that have confirmed something beyond the level of "motif" for Isshu, post them, let me read them, and I will stop my crusade. If not, the neutral version is the one that should be used as it is more accurate to my knowledge.

::I'm sorry for all the editing. --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 02:58, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

:::http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ds/interview/irbj/vol1/index2.html#list
:::増田「はい。そこでカントー（関東）、ジョウト（関西）、ホウエン（九州）、シンオウ（北海道）という『ポケモン』の舞台になった順番で、それぞれの場所でコンサートをやらせてもらったんですけど、もし次にもう１回できるとしたらどこがいいかな？」と考えて、そのとき、ニューヨークがいいなあと思ったんです。」
:::益田は関東、関西、九州、北海道は舞台だといいます。ブログでも九州に関して舞台という言葉を使います。

:::増田　「はい。ニューヨークをモチーフにしました」
:::しかしながら、ニューヨークに関してはモチーフだと断言します。ポケモンぴあや、ブログ、上記のインタビューでも同様にモチーフという言葉は使われます。

:::一見すると増田は舞台とモチーフを区別してるようにみえるよね。[[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 06:29, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
:::モチーフの意味って日本とアメリカじゃ違うんですか？下記は日本国内でのモチーフの解説です。
:::１文学・美術などで、創作の動機となった主要な思想や題材。
:::私はMackinz of SoulSilverさんの主張に共感する部分があります。もし私が英語が堪能なら、私が問題提起してたかもしれません。機械翻訳が煩わしいので編集したくてもできない箇所が山ほどあるので、今回似たようなことを考えるMackinz of SoulSilverさんの手助けになればと考えて行動してました。ただ、今までの舞台もモチーフかと聞かれたら、私は制作者ではないので分かりませんと答えるしかないです。しかしNYはモチーフであると確定してます。[[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 08:31, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

== /* Blocked On Twitter */ ==

Hello there, Just recently discovered the anything goes Pokedex and it just has some hilarious results. For some reason I can't seem to follow you on Twitter as my account has been blocked (twitter.com/JEFFBM). Please tell me why i was blocked because i enjoyed reading your tweets especially since I'm trying to learn Japanese so I'm trying to read the tweets you post in Nihongo. Thanks in advance and keep on keeping on. [[User:JEFF|JEFF]] 17:33, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
:Whoops, I'm sorry about that! I often go through my followers list and block accounts that look like they're either bots or people who randomly added me just for plumping up their following list. I try not to block people who might legitimately be interested in what I say, but it seems that you might have gotten caught in the crossfire by accident, and for that I apologize. XD I'll unblock you now~ [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 17:41, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

== Re: [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:Kenji-girl#Knock_knock Knock knock] ==

Hey Ume, I think you might wanna look at [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Talk:Shooti#Shooty_-_Part_2 this conversion]. As you can speak Japanese fluently, so I think you can make a better decision otherwise it's just turning into a useless/forumiSH/flame war and I really don't like this drama type conversations. When you get time then please check it out, thanks. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 05:59, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
:Me being fluent in Japanese or not really has no relevance here, but if you really want my opinion, I think we should just keep it where it is for the time being. He'll be renamed when the dub comes around, and there's really no reason that "Shooty" is any more of a viable romanization than "Shooti." Keep it where it is, make a few redirects maybe, dust off your hands, wait for the dub, and then be done with it. The end. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 06:05, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
::Ok, I'll go and announce it on that dramatic talk page. Thanks for the suggestion. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 06:11, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
:::Yup. If, on the off chance, TPCi decides to keep his name, and spells it "Shooty"... then I think we can consider spelling his Japanese name with a Y. But as it stands, neither is really more or less "correct" than the other. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 06:13, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

==BW 005 Incomplete Symbosus==
Why add the templete Incomplete Synopsis to a page before the episode aired?

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==[[User talk:SnorlaxMonster#About stuff ]]==
You said to remind you if you left it too long. I think this is long enough. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 10:13, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
:Me too. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:58, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

== Hi, I'm new ==

I need a bit of help, and this is pretty odd, but... How do I get new box backgrounds in Jubilife TV, again?

[[User:Togepikachu|TogePikachu]] 07:41, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
:The best place to ask questions like this is on the Bulbagarden forums. However: the box background is called [[wallpaper]] and we have an article about that with links to generators. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:45, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

== Archive Images ==

Hello Trom. I know it says not to ask, but I need some of the images [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Category:Candidates_for_moving |moved on the archive] as some of those are over a month old. I mainly need the Sprout Tower and Union Cave Eyecatches moved as I fixed the pages to correspond with their new locations. If I get could get some help it would be much appreciated. Thanks! –'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 20:44, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
:Done. Next time though, don't create new images. Redirects work wonders. Don't forget about the DPPtHGSS sprites. We don't have a [[a:File:Spr 4p 001.png]] for instance. That's just a redirect. MK, can you upload Curelean Cave-Day though? [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 20:48, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
::Thanks Ht for doing that for me. I will make sure to use redirects, it just that I didn't know exactly how those worked for images. It was also so people didn't look at it and think that we were being inaccurate or something. Cerulean Cave was one of the first ones that I was working on so I forgot to check to make sure every image was there. I will make sure to upload it though and look over the rest. Thanks again. –'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 05:37, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

==Body?==
Found one more: [[Template:GlitchPkmnInfobox]], but it's hidden so only gen 3 and 4 Pokémon have it. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:44, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
:Done. As is the other glitch template thing you got me to do ↑up there↑ (if you hadn't noticed). —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 11:47, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
::Yes, I saw that. I started removing those Color redirects from articles, but there is still a problem with [[Template:Moveentry]] and [[Template:Movelistglitch]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:22, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
:::Also, the defaults on [[Template:GlitchEvobox/Setup]] simply need to be changed from Bird to Unknown. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:50, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
::::Evobox is done. I don't see what needs to be chaned on moveentry - this template is used on move articles only. Do you perhaps mean {{template|mlentry1}}? Regarding {{template|Movelistglitch}}: just put "Unknown" for the variable that would usually be a glitch type. The type is not written down anywhere on the template; all you are doing is calling a color template. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 13:03, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::It is written on the template, down the type column. So Glitch should be used instead of IIIItoto [[4 4#By leveling up|here]]? As for move entry, it's used {{m|Super Glitch|here}} and [[List of glitch moves|here]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:17, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
::::::That's actually on a different template which I have located and updated. The moventry should be done too now. Any further <s>demands</s> requests you have will be dealt with once I've woken up... in, like, five hours D: —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 13:26, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

== Retrieving sprites ==

Can u retrieve the egg sprites from Project:CustomSprites that would be very much appreciated. [[User:DoTheWave|DoTheWave]] 02:41, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
:Given the sheer volume of sprites that will take up a large amount of time that I currently don't have. I'll see what I can do later in the week, but no promises. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 06:55, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
::Sorry to barge in, but what do you need them for? If anything, ask {{u|Tavisource}}. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 21:00, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
:::Tavis is not an admin. Unless he has all sprites saved on his computer, he won't be able to help. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 19:02, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
::::I know that, I'm just thinking that he has them on him, that's all. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 21:15, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

== Present ==

you need a [http://www.alfred-music.com/player/JazzBand2009/30626/player.html song]. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 23:17, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
:Awwww Nate, you shouldn't have! Here, I got you some math. ''Solve for i: 9x - 7i > 3 (3x-7u)''. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:20, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

== Sky Attack ==
The vandal whose edit you reverted has been done again which I undid this time. Based on my suspcions of this users edit I can say it has to be a single purpose vandal. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 02:22, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
:He's been warned. Keeping an eye on him. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:26, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
::Right, but right now this user is more likely to ignore this warning since that doesn't seem to be any constructive edits. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 02:28, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
:::I'm assuming good faith. He probably hadn't seem that message by the time he made the third edit and is likely frustrated that people are removing his edits. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:32, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

== I believe... ==

That the contents of [[User:MisterE13/Sandbox]] may be of interest to you.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 21:38, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

== Redirection Question ==

Hey trom, need to ask something. There are two characters with the same name '''Shū'''. One is Drew from Advanced Generation and the other one is from ''Pokémon Get da ze!''. The thing is that there is no redirection to Drew's article when we search Shu, it directly jump to that manga shu article. Shouldn't there be a disambiguation? Because Shu (that anime one) isn't a minor character afterall. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 14:39, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
:My personal opinion on this issue is that the article at [[Shū]] should stay the manga character with the hatnote it currently has (the thing that says "If you were looking for...") because that is the only name we have for that character, whereas we have an English name for [[Drew|the other guy]]. If any of my talk page stalkers want to chime in, I'd like to hear what they have to say on this :) —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:38, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
::^this [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 20:40, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Agreed. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 20:57, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
:::↑(I'm a stalker XD) [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 21:17, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
::::Oh, okay. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 03:01, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

== Guess you guys didn't see it ==

[[User talk:Shambori|This guy]] vandalized Luvdisc's page several hours ago but was not blocked. The guy may return. [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 00:42, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
:Hey, it's him again. Go through the Archives deletion logs and you'll see what I mean ;)
:Next time, don't forget to plonk a warning message on his talk page. That'll help us notice anything in future. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 00:46, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
::No prob. I'll be looking out for him on Bulbanews. [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 00:53, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
:::He hasn't activated that account yet, which is why I didn't place a block or anything. If he tries anything, match the times from here and from BA. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 00:55, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

== Crystal ==

Sorry about removing that chunk without an explanation. I usually leave one, just was lazy tonight. I didn't think it was necesarry to have the starter Pokémon names, just seemed too long. I am gonna re-add about how the rival chooses the starter that the player's is weak is against. My bad. [[User:Jedi Striker|Jedi Striker]] 06:12, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
:It's forgivable, but please don't be lazy. It can be really confusing to see a large chunk of text vanish with no explanation. Again, I urge you to use the link templates as mentioned by Zesty Cactus on your talk page. They'll prevent you from unintentionally linking to redirects or disambiguation pages. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 06:14, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

== Isshu Starters ==

Hey trom, apparently almost everything related to [http://img24.imageshack.us/i/497pokabu.png/ Pokabu], [http://img10.imageshack.us/i/494tsutaaja.png/ Tsutaaja] and [http://img219.imageshack.us/i/500mijumaru.png/ Mijumaru] is under protection including there images. I've crystal clear + clean artwork images of these starters but I don't have the permission to upload them neither do any other normal user. Can you please add/upload them? Another user have also provided it's link (as he uploaded it on imageshack), you can save it from there and upload it here. Thank you. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 09:57, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
:A concern with images is whether the image is fan-made or not. Where did you find the art from? —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:11, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
::It's fan edited (check Pokabu's back leg and Tsutaaja tail). By the way, the BW site says BW will be released Fall 2010. Page here only says 2010. [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 10:16, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Hmm... {{tt|didn't noticed that|you are right :P}}. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 10:25, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
::::Jioruji and I decided that including fan-'''edited''' art isn't necessarily a bad thing provided it is from an obscured scan and is noted as such. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:53, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::Note other part of my comment above. [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 10:58, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::Sorry, got sidetracked reading your anime predictions page... ^-^; —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 11:03, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

== Gen 5 Artwork ==

I figured an Admin would be the best person to talk to - [http://www.andriasang.com/e/galleries/2010/05/15/pokemon_black_white/ if we want artwork not edited from Coro Coro]...yeah. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 20:55, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
:Most of it is already uploaded, if you bothered to check the Archives. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jel]][[User Talk:Jello|lo]] 21:13, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
::Just trying to be helpful, no need to be a dick. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 22:00, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Jello was also trying to be helpful. If you want to upload stuff that's from the official BW site that's fine, but you need [[a:Category:Early_Pokémon_Black_and_White_images|check that it's not there already]]. And follow the naming conventions, guys. File:bw-1.jpg is not a descriptive name at all. We want to know what the image is about before we see it. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:38, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

== Yeah, about the copyright ==
I personally, and by hand, cut out those sprites from multiple Sprite Sheets found on [http://www.google.com/ Google], not Bulbapedia. Yes, we might have a few ideas from your site, but you can't prove that any of those images were from Bulbapedia. As for our Diamond, Golden, Silver, and Bronze Charizard awards that we present to our best contributors, yes, it was an idea from Bulbapedia, however they're different as our site mascot is Charizard, not Bulbasaur. We don't have any GIFs that are in identical motion with any of yours, so you have no legal proof that those images are yours. As for giving credit? We plan to put your URL as a cousin site from ours on one of our high-traffic pages, in time. —[[User:RockSmashGuy|Rock]][[User_talk:RockSmashGuy|Smash]][[Special:Contributions/RockSmashGuy|Guy]] 05:04, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
:Woah, way to get out of hand. Please stay calm.
:I was never saying that you stole the images themselves from Bulbapedia. Stuff that's ripped from the games is anyone's content, after all. That part of my post was more to do with the fact that our naming conventions had been used. While we can't hold claim to them, it's a little upsetting to see something that Bulbapedia used developed on another site.
:I had no idea you were using Golden Charizards. Don't get too defensive.
:My main concern, and the concern of the Editorial Board, was that you took a whole stack of templates without permission. This violates the terms and conditions of Bulbapedia. A lot of users put their time and effort into creating those templates, and their work cannot be recognized without providing attribution at the time of publication.
:Finally, if you want to continue any discussion, please do so on this page now that you have brought the issue to the BP end. Thanks. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 05:14, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
::Okay then, we'll try to make our own templates. Thanks for not escalating the problem <code>;</code>). —[[User:RockSmashGuy|Rock]][[User_talk:RockSmashGuy|Smash]][[Special:Contributions/RockSmashGuy|Guy]]
:::Please ensure that you not only use your own original templates, but also remove all work unfairly taken from Bulbapedia. Editorial Board page, I'm looking at you D: —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 05:43, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
::::<code>Don't upload any copyrighted images here, even if you have permission. Period. The reason behind that is that we generally want to stay out of the copyright stuff, as a precaution.</code>

::::<code>Every single image, picture, animation, and sprite of a Pokémon is copyrighted. —darklordtrom 05:52, 16 May 2010 (UTC)</code>
::::You know that quote isn't represented literally! So, if it's copyrighted, doesn't Bulbapedia need permission to have them, Mr. Literal? Bulbapedia has no legal ownership over any sprites, so watch your mouth there, buddy. —[[User:RockSmashGuy|Rock]][[User_talk:RockSmashGuy|Smash]][[Special:Contributions/RockSmashGuy|Guy]]
:::::Excuse me? Watch my mouth? Please refrain from harassing staff members. I'm only trying to help you.
:::::Bulbapedia knows that the images are copyright, and we use them under fair use guidelines. I was only pointing out that by prohibiting copyright images, you shouldn't have all those sprites (e.g. ''File:Spr 3r 003 s.png''). Why do you keep bringing up the issue of stolen sprites? I never said you stole our sprites. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 06:14, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

==Illusion==
I'd like to make this page, however it is protected from being made. What should I do? [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK]] [[Mudkip (Pokémon)|Leiks]] [[Lucario (Pokémon)|Lucario]] [[User talk:SpecialK|and the]] [[User:Missingno. Master/Celebi Glitch|Celebi Glitch]] 12:48, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
:Don't make it. It's protected so that it will have no speculation. Right now the page would say "This is the ability of Zoroark and Zoroa. It makes them take the sprite of of the opposing Pokémon." When we have a substantial amount of information to make a page, an admin will.--[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:19, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

==Trainer template?==
Hi Trom,
I was playing around and tried making [[User:Skymin23/sandbox|one]] and I could use feedback. Or are you the wrong person to ask. Anyhow, thanks--[[User:Skymin23|FlyingSkymin23]] 22:38, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
:For a start, you've broken the wiki. ... Kidding. But notice how the sidebar is all the way at the bottom? You haven't closed some tags that you've opened. Secondly, [[User talk:TTEchidna/Trainerlist/entry|TTE got there first]]. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 00:58, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
::D'oh! I guess I should stop trying to make templates now. BTW, do you know if he made a [[Route_45#In_Generation_IV|wild pokémon encounter table]] template with roundy corners? Because I was playing around with that idea. (Hopefully, my dreams aren't smashed).--[[User:Skymin23|FlyingSkymin23]] 01:21, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

== Pokemon movie ==

re:"It's likely to have been Thursday 8 April, given my holiday plans. If there's one thing I'm good at remembering, it's dates I did stuff. If anyone wants a specific breakdown of why it's that date, email me or something :)"

Yeah out of interest why was it shown on that day? break it down.Cheers--[[User:Solidstate|Solid!]] 11:17, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
:It's not as impressive as it sounds. Basically I read it in the TV Guide at my grandma's house the day before it aired, on that day I drove back to my city, and then the day it aired I was at work. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 06:52, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

== I got it! ==

I got a template giving credit to Bulbapedia on the pages its used on [http://wiki.rocksmashgroup.dreamhosters.com/wiki/Template:BulbapediaBased here]. I'll try to set up a time where i can insert the template into the proper pages <tt>:</tt>). I'm getting really sleepy, as I stayed up all night last night. —[[User:RockSmashGuy|RockSmashGuy]] 15:14, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
:That's a start. I strongly recommend that you completely recode everything you've taken from Bulbapedia, though. Give the wiki your own personal touch (because that EB page, although recolored and square, is still blatantly "borrowed"). —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 06:52, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

== TROMMY! ==

I need to talk to you: get a hold of me as soon as you can. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 02:34, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

== T'anks!!! ==
Sorry d'dn't kenow(ke-know)--[[User:Corynofplatinum|Coryn]][[User talk:Corynofplatinum|of]][[platinum]] 01:11, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
:I would appreciate you using proper English on my talk page, thanks. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:15, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

==Need some possible help==
I recently found an important conversation at [[Talk:List of Pokémon by National Pokédex number]] regarding a problem with the NDex link that someone noted at that talk page. Could you look into because if I recall that link follows the NDex follows the listing from Generation II and since the National Dex listing is locked down I am going to need your help for that page at least. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]]
:I don't have time to fix it now. If I temporarily unprotect the page, can you work fast? —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:57, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
::Better yet remove the link from there, I deal with the rest of the stuff right now. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 08:00, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
:::NDex page is unprotected for you. Don't tell anyone and make your edits quick :P —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:09, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
::::It's done though I might had made an unintentional mistake in my summary, but that was before I saw you response so hurry and re-protect and seriously I hope you do not get in trouble for this since I did offer you a way out of doing this and I'd feel partly responsible. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 08:15, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::Huh. That wasn't the problem I had in mind. But thanks anyway. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:58, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Sorry about last night, but I did send a message to Kogoro that something needs to be done to eliminate confusion to other people since one my secondary objectives is to clear up confusion whenever possible. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 01:24, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

:My point is that if I could be confused and the people who wrote on that talk page can be confused then without an invisible note to the National Pokedex page regarding that confusing link then it would cause more problems. P.S. I feel REALLY BAD about that mistake that I am filled with anger and sadness from that unintentional mistake and for getting you involved in it that it I am upset about myself so please, don't make me feel worse. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 01:36, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
::In the fandom, NDex means National Dex. That is why the redirect is where it is. If people want to get to the NewDex for whatever reason, they're likely to search for that instead. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:00, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Right didn't know that and thank you. Also during my long walk I took I also realized that deep down we both made mistakes that we have to live with. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 03:40, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

==Image Issue==
Right now on the player characters page there is a problem with the image for the main characters of Gen. V. What I do know is that even though it has the same file name on the Archives, it is not linking with it properly, and there is a chance that the size re-adjustment might be part of the problem, which I just confirmed from recent previewing. If you have the time then can you look into it? -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 05:16, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

== SockPuppeting ==

The IP Addresses are the same only because different relatives in this house go on but we don't go on the same account. [[User:Spritester|Spritester]] 22:36, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
:And your userpages are identical because... And you list your relative's parties instead of yours because... —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 04:48, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

== Please read [[Template talk:Itlistbod]] ==

That's pretty much it, really.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 11:43, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
:Looks good. I'll do something with it. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:47, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
::Eh... it's going to be more work than it's worth, says the rest of the Board. We can always add new parameters if we need them, but this isn't an essential changeover. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:03, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

==Physiology for the starters==
Pokabu: "Pokabu is a pig-like Pokémon, primarily orange in coloration with the additional colors of black, pink, and yellow on various portions of its body. It has large, ovular eyes, an archetypically piglike ruddy-pink nose, and a thick stripe of yellow over its snout. Much of its face has black coloration, and its ears, long and oblong, are positioned closely together on the top of its head. Pokabu has short legs, with the extremities of its forefeet being black in coloration. There is a band of black on its lower back and rear, from which extends its coiled tail, topped with a ruddy-red bauble-like adornment." Hopefully this helps. Also, I was not sure if its extremities---farthermost portions of its limbs--- should be called hooves or paws, so I left it at "extremities". (I was not sure if you noticed that I put this on its page previously...) [[User:Steph|Steph]] 14:32, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

== Name change request ==

I request that my username be renamed to "Compass" if possible, due to personal and identity reasons. Thanks. [[User:Wolf|Wolf]] 04:07, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
:I preferred the old name. But hey, I'm a creature of nostalgia. Reunify your global account, and log in on Archives and News. Apologies about the Pullman references; it was either that or Doctor Who, and I wasn't in a mood for quoting Christopher Eccleston. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 11:57, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

I just wanted to thank you because of helping me out at first. I even have a userpage. --[[User:Zewis29|Zewis29]] 21:19, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

== Usertags ==

You might want to fix [[Bulbapedia:Usertags]] to match the usrtag policy (and so it links to it). It currently says to create new usertags in the template namespace. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 21:26, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
:... How did we miss that? D: —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:28, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

== Project Ranger ==

Welcome. I am [[User:Donnaclus|Donnaclus]], and I noticed that Bulbapedia has far too many stubs regarding the [[Pokémon Ranger]] games. I want to create an ongoing project to help fix all destroyed Ranger articles. I will need your approval, though. If you'd like to reply using my Usertalk, [[User_talk:Donnaclus|click right here]]. Also please feel free to reply here. --[[User:Donnaclus|Donn]]'''.::.'''''([[User talk:Donnaclus|Usertalk]])'' 19:31, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
:I'm not Trom BUT... If I'm not mistaken, I think the Pokémon Ranger series falls under {{bp|Project Games}}. You could bring it up on their talkpage that all the Ranger articles kind of suck (I'd edit them more myself, I love the Ranger games, but I haven't played them in ages D:) --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 20:23, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
::Zesty Cactus is right. All articles relating to the video games share the same category: Project Games. What I suggest you do, in this situation, is work with {{u|Umeko}}, the Project Leader, to establish a Ranger to-do list which users can then work through.
::The next time you write on my talk page, please don't resign it three times. The extra, unneeded edits may strain our fragile server. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:33, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

== MS links ==

About a month ago I mentioned to TTE that most of the MS links weren't leading to the right place, and he said to fix them. I've done all the mainspace/templatespace ones I can (with a bit of help from a few others), but now the only ones left are protected templates. They need a '' (Pokémon)'' inserted in the MS link after the parameter. The templates in question are:
*{{template|Avail-1}}
*{{template|Avail-2}}
*{{template|Avail-3}}
*{{template|Avail-4}}
*{{template|Fiorepkmn}}
*{{template|Almiapkmn}}
*{{template|MftE}} (this one needs more than one addition)
Could you/another admin change these when you get the time please? <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 07:04, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
:All done. Hopefully the server won't hate me too much after this... —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:58, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

==Images?==
Hi Trom. Who do I go to if I want certain images to be uploaded, and I can't do them myself? [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 15:22, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
:Me. Upload them to an image sharing site and give me the URLs. If they're above the 2MB limit, though, no one will be able to upload them. Why can't you do it yourself, may I ask? —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 05:48, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
::Sorry for the late response. I went away for the weeekend. Well, there are alot of images that need to be updated from HG/SS, and I don't know where to get them. For example, [[Route 32]]. [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 22:14, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Ah. Well if you don't have the images, and I don't have the images, there's not a lot we can do. We should probably get some sort of "requests for images" page going... I'll think that over. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:34, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
::::Okay, that's awesome, thanks. If I look, maybe I will find them somewhere, but thanks. [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 00:30, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

== Max's Ralts ==

Did you not see what I had on that talk page? Max's Ralts IS a notable article, under the grounds that it counts as a CotD. The ENTIRE episode was focused on it. There weren't any human CotDs in that episode. I swear, is that rule going to be completely unused?

And Misty's Golduck was deleted before that rule was even thought of. It should be remade as well. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 12:18, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
:I saw what you wrote and I know what the rule says. I likened it to Misty's Golduck as that was how the Project Anime leader Kenji-girl described it as, but a better analogy may have been Cassandra's Parasect. My main reasoning is that if the information can fit into a box on a human character's page, it is better off there. Keeping down the smaller articles in favour of fuller articles is the idea behind this policy. The only information I didn't carry across was the trivia about Wally, because that is already mentioned in Max's article. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 12:24, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

== Favor to ask ==

Can you nip on over to [[List of Pokémon by Isshu Pokédex number]] and edit it to reflect that we now know Zekrom and Reshiram are at least part-Dragon type? Thanks. [[User:Shady|'''Shady]] got [[Image:PokémonDollar.png]][[User talk:Shady|10,000]] for [[Special:Contributions/Shady|winning]]''' 14:34, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

== They may or may not be Dragon-types ==

This really pisses me off: People automatically assuming something when we only know something else. We do '''''NOT''''' have '''''any''''' confirmation that they are any type as of yet. Has it been stated by Daisuki Club that they are the "Legendary Dragon Pokemon"?Yes, they said that. I'm not denying it. But that sounds too suspicious if you ask me. Why word it like a Pokedex entry? Perhaps they are like the Komodo Dragon and are only Dragon in name only. We have nothing confirmed (except for maybe Zekrom being Electric but meh) and since this is a wiki based on the facts, as most wikis are, we shouldn't interpret a rumor as fact. Please edit the Zekrom and Reshiram pages so that they are not listed as Dragon-types. --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 17:09, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
:What in the world brought this on? I mean, I agree with you, but exactly why are you railing on Trom about this when he isn't even online right now{{tt|?|it's currently 6 AM where he is}} [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 18:04, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
::Sorry Umeko-san, it's just that I saw him reply on [[Talk:Zekrom (Pokémon)]] (Part of being a Pokémon encyclopedia is reporting what we know. We know that they're Dragon-type. We don't know anything else about their types. That's why it says Dragon and nothing else (not even a ???). —darklordtrom 12:49, 30 May 2010 (UTC) ) and, while it was a week back, I still can't believe he admits that he accepts fan-based (while not unfounded) speculation as FACT. That's why I railed on him. I just can't believe people can be so assuming. Could someone please explain to the admins and mods that the typing is not confirmed by anyone, ANYWHERE. --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 18:36, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
:::If we're wrong, we'll change it. It's not a big deal. The typing will probably be revealed tommorow on Pokémon Sunday. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 18:42, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
::::Well, it's actually today that Pokémon Sunday is airing. I'm recording it so I can upload it to my YouTube so people who weren't able to watch it can watch it. The links on my user page and, if the recorder doesn't crap out like last week, they'll be up by 5pm here. --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 18:49, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::I'll be sure to check, since your 5 PM is my 5 PM (I checked your page) :P [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 18:53, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
::::::I have been discussing with the other admins the issue about their types still being uncertain. It's just not really a priority right now, so not much headway has been made. While yes, we do want to be as factual possible, it's not really the end of the world if we accidentally have information that may end up to be untrue on the pedia for a little while due to a misunderstanding.
::::::I have not taken the initiative to change the typings myself, because it would not be prudent of me to do so without getting the others to agree first.
::::::Finally, there's really no need to add "-san" to my name. Just Umeko is fine. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 18:56, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Thank for discussing it with the other admins, Umeko.
:::::::Just so you guys know, I'm not denying the fact that they could be Dragon-types, I'm just denying the fact that it's been confirmed that they are. If I sound angry, which I'm sure I do, rest assured it is only because I am unsure how to tackle a general assumption by many thousands(?) of people and get easily mad when people mix rumors with fact (same with Arceus and the god complex). --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 19:03, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
:Sorry, I thought it was confirmed that they were Dragon-type? I don't speak Japanese, so I was only going off what other people had told me. Umeko, did the other staff give any final verdict{{tt|?|I haven't the time to join you tonight}} —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 05:22, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

==TROM==
Could you block [[User:Nazzys|Nazzys]] please. He's is an apparent vandal, and wrote a disturbing message [[User talk:Skymin23|here]]. I plopped a warning on his talk, but i'm not sure he took it seriously. Thanks!

== Dude with two accounts ==

{{u|Macarol12|this fellow}} made a {{u|I Love Rapidash|second account}}, can you take care of it for me? Thanks man :D --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 15:42, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
:All done. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:28, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

== Talk page comments ==

Um...i'm not sure if i have to be an admin to tell you this, but don't erase talk page comments for no reason. [[User:Flyingtypefan|Flyingtypefan]] 03:33, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
:EDIT: Okay, so according to your edit summary, it was the wrong projet. I thought since it was a fan-term, it should go there. I was wrong. But still, you shouldn't have erased it. [[User:Flyingtypefan|Flyingtypefan]] 03:40, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
::...Trom is a member of the {{bp|Editorial Board}}. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 03:43, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
I didn't think anybody could erase talk page comments unless they were spam. And i didn't know he moved it rather than erasing it. Sorry. :( [[User:Flyingtypefan|Flyingtypefan]] 03:46, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
:Yeah. And stuff. All cool now. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:28, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

== Confirmed something ==
I confirmed the other day through luck that the highest level in the Voltorb Flip is level 8. Since you posted a note in that page regarding the topic I figured I should let you know. On that talkpage I put down the summary of my experience. Just to note if I hadn't seen it too clearly then I wouldn't consider it confirmed since all the conformations I have done for this site involve careful and clear observation. If you don't want to post that information on the Voltorb Flip page without additional conformation I understand since this is not something easy to confirm. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 04:43, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

== User:Qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq ==

Err, how exactly is his username unacceptible? I was curious, so I went over the username policy. It's not obscene, it's not impersonating anyone, it's not named after a Bulbapedia admin or function, it's just a slightly long string of the letter Q. Annoying at the worst, yes, but certainly nothing harmful. Or am I missing something here? - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 11:35, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
:You're missing the discussion the staff had behind the scenes. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 19:43, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
::I had a feeling I had to be missing something here. But what exactly am I missing? What's the real reason, then? - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 11:06, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
:::Nothing, I think trom is saying that you are missing '''the main meeting''' that '''staff members''' had regarding this issue. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 11:25, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

==about what you said==
i can help, i know alot about pokemon and the games, but i cant add to anything here.
i will help in black and white when the "roms" are out so :( [[User:Jackjt8|Jackjt8]] 14:07, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

== If you're around right now ==

Could you please move [[Chirāmyi (Pokémon)]] back to [[Chiramii (Pokémon)]]? Thanks. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 20:36, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

==User:MtCharizard==
I know this is late, but I noticed that [[User talk:CodyDelis|this user]] [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&user=CodyDelis created a new account name]. Since you were the last person to block the original user, could you take care of this? Thanks! --[[User:Rockersk08|rock]][[User talk:Rockersk08|ersk]][[Special:Contributions/Rockersk08|08]] 23:30, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
:Thanks. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:37, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

== Dear Trom ==

Since you're not where you should be <Strike>with me</strike> on AIM or easily contactable...could you answer [[User talk:Serial Colour|this]] please? I figure you can do it better than I can, or want to...Much love~ --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 23:41, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
:Apologies and done. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:52, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
::Much love and thanks. 8D. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 23:59, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
:::Since I'm American and therefore stereotypically too lazy to make a new section when I can use this one, when you're on AIM I've got something important to discuss with you. Stay classy~ --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 22:50, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
::::Five hours from now, kiddo. Hope your ''mom'' doesn't mind you being up past your bed time :P —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:01, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::Well fine. I ''guess'' I can stay up that long for you. It's a date. /shot --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 23:08, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
::::::Ugh, I hope you don't mind me abusing my previous sections so I don't have to make a new one. You know, being American and lazy an all that. Because you're all backwards upside down reversy worldy, when you're online, I need you. Much love, --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 02:14, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::::DDDD8! Trom, when you're next available or contactable, I need to talk to you. It's like a super code yellow-red of super double super secret stuff of moderate level importance...IDK, just get on when you can when your backwards upside down time world thing lets you~ Thanks! Also, I promise I'll make a new section the next time I need you...Maybe...Hugs and Kisses, --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 20:23, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
Pardon my butting in, but I literally laughed out loud when I read this section. This is the most hilarious admin interaction I've seen in a while. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 21:13, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

== O HAIZ ==

Er, since [[List of routes in the Pokémon world|this article]] is (somehow) protected (actually, can't bother to read the history), and it's got some technical issues, I've fixed 'em at my [[User:Masatoshi/Routes|page up here]], so please change that to the article above. Thanks in advance. [[User:Masatoshi|'''ALL<Gen. II''']] [[User talk:Masatoshi|'''''I want CHOCOLATE MILK''''']] 07:20, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
:Since Trom's not here right now, I've gone ahead and changed it. Thanks. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jel]][[User Talk:Jello|lo]] 08:09, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
=== About signature ===
Ah, that, sorry. Gonna fix it now, I'm easily confused, don't worry.. [[User:Masatoshi|'''Oro<Plata''']] [[User talk:Masatoshi|'''''discuss.''''']] 10:41, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

== Ah, okay ==

Oh, I wasn't aware that we had a policy on this. I guess I'll have to fight with my habit of blanking pages when adding deletion template from now on. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 14:35, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

== Thanks! ==

Ok. I will do that from now on. Would you like me edit the Categories for it? [[User:Tandra88|Tandra88]] 02:00, 20 July 2010 (UTC)Tandra88

== Name change? ==

I apologize for asking this, but if possible, I would like to have a username change. I once asked TTEchidna this some months ago, back when the errors were around so obviously it couldn't be done then, and I would ask him again but I seem to be disabled from adding new talk sections on his talk page. I've been told to ask one of the Main Editors, hence why I came here. If you can't do the change, then that's fine too.

I understand the rules of a username change, that once made I can never ask for another one, which I am perfectly fine with. I'd like to be called Rai Marshall, if possible. Thank you kindly. [[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]] 02:26, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
:Gimme like five hours or something. I gotta prime the servers, run calibration tests, reconfigure the registry panel.... LOL JK I'm going to a film screening now. But I'll do it, sure.
:Go edit the mainspace or something while you wait. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:32, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
::Thank you and uh, I think I'm fine doing nothing while I wait. I'm not so good on wiki terms, I admit. But yes, thank you very much. [[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]] 02:34, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
:::Go get good on wiki terms then. Merge your accounts on all three wikis and you're home and hosed. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:52, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

==Project Idea==
I have an idea for a project.It's called Project Control Blaze.It's for censoring things on bulbapedia,so no one getts offended. {{unsigned|Gamerater888}}
:I'm not Trom, however, I find the general policy on Bulbapedia has been to present all facts, including images, accurately and without censorship. As an encyclopedia, our goal is to be as complete and factual as possible, which is contradictory to censoring images. --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 15:25, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
::Are we still going on about Electric Tale? The images on that page are so small that you can't even see anything without having to click onto them, and why would you even click if you've read the section above them? Personally, I despise spoiler warnings in all their forms. If you're on a wiki about any series/franchise, you can expect plot details to crop up on every single page. Project idea denied. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:44, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

==Thank you!==
Seriously, thanks for un-breaking my new Pokémon page. I didn't have much information to put into the New Pokémon template and I was really confused when I made the page and got a bunch of gibberish. Guess that'll be the last time I mess around too much with templates xD; Anyway, thank you for prettying up the page. --[[User:Phantomjunkie|Phantom]][[User talk:Phantomjunkie|Junkie]] 16:12, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

== Request ==

Could you possibly do one of the following for me?

1: Copy and paste the following text into the very top of [[User talk:Missingno. Master/Archive2]]; <nowiki>{{User:Missingno. Master/Template:Talkpage|prev=User talk:Missingno. Master/Archive1|next=User talk:Missingno. Master/Archive3}}</nowiki>.

Or,

2: Unprotect the aforementioned page so that I may do it myself.

Thanks in advance! - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 22:30, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

== Specialshipping ==

How isn't Specialshipping canon?! It's no less canon than Franticshipping! --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 23:14, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
:I believe I gave my justification in my edit summary. If you think I was in error, bring it up with the Head of Shipping, Luna/Arc Toraphim. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:17, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

== RE: Renaming files ==

I'm sorry about that. I'm new here and i tried to edit it but i didn't find the "Edit" button. I tried to read the manual, it's a bit complex but i think i get it. Anyway thanks for tellin'
--[[User:DarkPokeTrainerWJ|DarkPokeTrainerWJ]] 12:10, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

== Nobledd11 ==

Hey trom, can you please block/deal with [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:Nobledd11 this] user? Zesty warned him first, then I warned him but he is continuously editing his userpage. He edited his user-page 11 times in a row and still going on and on. Please deal with him, thank you. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 16:34, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
:Thanks Adyniz. When dealing with userspace abusers in future, please use the prescribed template {{template|userwarning}} with the appropriate warning to make sure the right message is given. In the case of this user, the message you left should have been <nowiki>{{subst:userwarning|2}}</nowiki> and that would have made it clear that he was up to his final warning. Thanks again. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:49, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
::Glad to help. Okay, I'll try to use those proper templates next time. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 02:10, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
:::{{tt|One more favour|Didn't wanted to create another section for this little thing, sorry}}, can you please Un-Protect [[DP190]]? We have the title and the source. So, it will be great if you un-protect it so that we can create the article. Thank you. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 09:50, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

==sorry about that==

sorry about that article I made about my forums, i won't do it again and i will abide by the rules in the future

[[User:Gugtup|Gugtup]] 10:12, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
:That's alright. Thank you for being obliging :) —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:13, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

== BW Template ==

Hey trom, as we all know that DP series is about to end and we have all the 191 episode articles. Now, it's time for BW articles as the new episodes will be probably available next month. So, I think it's time to make a {{tt|new template|<nowiki>{{subst:BW episode|ep number|jp. airdate|kanji|translated title}}</nowiki>}} for BW episodes as we had {{tt|this|<nowiki>{{subst:DP episode|ep number|jp. airdate|kanji|translated title}}</nowiki>}} for DP episodes. {{tt|What do you think|I'm not good at templates, that's why I am asking you about it. Nevermind :D}}? ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 14:49, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
:[[Template:New episode|TTE got there first]]. Even though he cheated by simply moving the page. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:59, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
::{{tt|Oh|Hehehe... }}, got it. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 13:46, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
:::Can you please unprotect [[BW005]] as we already have the title? Thank you. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 11:01, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
::::Sure. Can you draft a Bulbanews article as well? —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 11:03, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::Yeah sure. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 11:11, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
::::::I've submitted [http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Draft:The_Elemental_Monkey_trio_to_be_featured_in_BW005 the draft]. I think it's ready {{tt|but you should check it out|My grammer SUCKS big time, so kindly fix the minor mistakes if you find any.}}. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 12:26, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Another request, can you please protect [[Best Wishes! (song)]] 「ベストウイッシュ！」 and [[Fanfare of the Heart]] 「心のファンファーレ」 articles? Because we only know a little about the songs and there is a week in the songs to debut. I'm pretty sure that someone will try to create the article but there will be no quality in it. So, I've {{tt|created the articles|I'll create the ending song article in my userspace soon, haven't created it yet}} in [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User:Adyniz/Best_Wishes!_(song) my userspace] instead of mainspacing it directly till we get more info. What do you think? ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 11:07, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Can you please unprotect [[BW003]]? The episode is airing right now. Thanks ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 10:01, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
:Along with that, please un-protect [[Ash's Mijumaru]]. I think [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User:Adyniz/Ash's_Mijumaru my article] is ready to be mainspaced :) ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 11:41, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
::Once again, I'm here to bug you. Please un-protect [[BW006]], we have a title. Why on earth is every single (most of the BW episodes articles are protected? Speculation crackdown? NO! Then is there any valid reason? Just asking. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 09:48, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
:::Haven't a clue. If people actually followed the protected page guidelines, then... D: I see Buzz got this one. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:24, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
::::Oh, well then I think I'll just have to ask you for the protetion thingy :) not to mention we have a [[BW007|new title now]] and you probably know what I'm going to say next *Un-Protection*. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 03:48, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::And you know what I'm going to say. Bulbanews it. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:49, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::Aye aye captain! I'll bulbanews it asap while you un-protect it (please). Thanks ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 03:53, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

== Hey, trom ==

[[User talk:Brennan1357|This fellow]] keeps using his User talk page as a substitute for a User page, even after being told by four different users (including me and {{u|Jello}}) to stop over-editing it. Can you give him a talking-to for me? Thanks D: --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 19:18, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

==Need a picture placed into a protected page==
Hi, if you wish could you go into the Pokedex page and send a copy of the Isshu Pokédex picture and put it into the Isshu Pokédex listing? Since I helped decorate with the other pictures to their appropriate page, it would be nice to have the Isshu Dex listing with this kind of decoration as well. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 04:21, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
:Sure thing. What's the file name? —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 04:23, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

::Here: (File:Pokédex BW.png), Just set it up similar to how the Hoenn and Sinnoh Dex number listing pages were done. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 04:26, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
:::Thanks for your help but just so you know I usually use three words for the description "''(Region name) region's Pokedex''" with only parenthesis going to regions involved with remakes (Kanto and Johto) to identify specific generation. But anyway I let you decide if you wish to change the description or not, I am just letting you know about this. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 04:54, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

== Hey, remember this stuff? ==

I've made some modifications to the Moveentry templates again as seen in the last sections of [[User:MisterE13/Sandbox|this page]]. Think you could do the update for me just like old times?--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 19:27, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
:All alone in the moonlight... —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:26, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
::Thanks :D!--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 00:57, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

== Bewking issue (again) ==

Hey trom, Bewking have started vandalizing the articles once again. He just vandalized the articles and sometimes removes the same thing and sometimes he adds something stupid/fake/false info in the articles. Most of the times, it looks like he is just trying to increase the edit count thingy if you notice [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?limit=50&tagfilter=&title=Special%3AContributions&contribs=user&target=Bewking&namespace=&tagfilter=&year=&month=-1 his contributions] closely. I saw that you blocked him earlier but he is doing the same thing again and again. Can you please deal with him? Thank you. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 08:54, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

== New Project ==

We have had Project Pokédex, Project Movedex and all sorts of similar projects. However we have not had Project Abilities. Can you see any future in it?--[[User:Chalkwriter|Chalkwriter]] 14:38, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
:I had already conceived an idea regarding abilities given that there is going to be a lot of new work coming in with BW; I'll bring it up with the Board and we'll go from there. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:10, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

==Can you help==
Hey, your an admin so maybe you can help me, when I try to edit an article's discussion page it says "You do not have permission to edit this page, for the following reason:
Your IP address, 196.25.255.194, has been automatically identified as a tor exit node. Editing through tor is blocked to prevent abuse." Thanks, [[User:Pikiwyn|Pikiwyn]] 22:05, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
:{{wp|Your internet provider is doing things we don't like}}. Or something. I'm not an expert on this kind of stuff. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:09, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
::Okay, thanks anyway. [[User:Pikiwyn|Pikiwyn]] 22:25, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

== My Userpage ==

I cant edit my userpage but I can't and I really want to. --[[User:Coolness|~Coolness]] 07:32, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
:See [[Bulbapedia:Userspace_policy#If_you_currently_cannot_edit_your_userpage|here]]. Your account is not autoconfirmed because you haven't made any (non-deleted) edits to the mainspace. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:39, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
:What can I edit? I can't think of any trivia or anything.--[[User:Coolness|~Coolness]] 07:44, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
::Take a look at {{cat|stubs|these}} {{cat|Articles needing improvement|categories}} {{cat|Episode articles with incomplete synopses|for}} {{cat|Articles needing more information|starters}}. Find something you're interested in and go from there. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:49, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

== Ok... ==

Trom, would you please block {{u|Bewking|this guy}}? Preferably forever. Thanks [[User:Takharii|'''たか''']][[User talk:Takharii|'''はり''']][[Special:Contributions/Takharii|'''い''']] 11:19, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
:Thanks, he was being an idiot yesterday{{tt|*|This morning, whatever. Last night for me (timezones)}}. [[User:Takharii|'''たか''']][[User talk:Takharii|'''はり''']][[Special:Contributions/Takharii|'''い''']] 21:36, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

== An Error I found on this one page...==

I know this ''probably'' isn't just my computer playing tricks on me. I was looking into articles I could further edit, and noticed a glitch that makes the [[Chimhiko]] article display the moves which lack specified first time uses... link to "EP010" of the show. Yeah, it's irritating, so if you could remedy that, it'd be great. Thanks. [[User:Kaboomustdie|Non-stop Hatred of Kabam- Kaboomustdie!]] 08:44, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
:All fixed. Some parameters in the template weren't set, so I changed the defaults. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:48, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

== [[Bulbapedia:Staff]] ==

i whould like to contest as a german support for the other users, i am one of the admins from pokewiki. the other user in the staff then you with more then de-2 is Nyoo an he is on Hiatus. (i dont need more rights for this job) --[[User:Hanmac|Hanmac]] 06:47, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
:Of course. I'll keep that in mind and send Germans in your direction if I need to. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:35, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

== Sinjoh Ruins event images ==

In addition to the photos, should I also include the effect shots and Arceus in my uploads? [[User:Turtwig Lover|Turtwig Lover]] 04:48, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
:50 images is a lot. Just upload what you think is the minimum we'd need. Bear in mind we don't want to display too many images. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:54, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

== Trainer's Pokemon ==

So, now, instead of an articles of a trainer's pokemon, we just redirect it to the trainer's articles? Mind if I help out there? --[[User:SilverCrono|Silver]][[User talk:SilverCrono|Crono]] 22:34, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
:No, just those three. They were determined as less-than-notable and the information fits on the Trainer's page well. The other pages, at this stage, will stay. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:45, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
::Ah, I see. Sorry for bothering you then, and thanks for your time :) --[[User:SilverCrono|Silver]][[User talk:SilverCrono|Crono]] 23:01, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

== Another question... ==

Sorry to be such a bother, but I have a question, and I think you can answer. How many edits does it take to become auto-confirmed? Or is there a time limit? I'm just curious, and seeing my name link as red in RecentChanges is kind of weird ~_~ --[[User:SilverCrono|Silver]][[User talk:SilverCrono|Crono]] 03:09, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
:There is both an edit minimum and a time limit: I'm not going to answer your question other than to say keep going :P —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:14, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
::Ah, okay. Well than, thanks, and I'll just blaze on through then! Thanks for your time, much appreciated :D --[[User:SilverCrono|Silver]][[User talk:SilverCrono|Crono]] 03:20, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

== Triple battles redirect ==

Can you please edit the [[Triple battle]] redirect to point to [[Double battle#Triple battles|Double battle#Triple battle'''s''']] instead? It's a minor problem which prevents the ''#Triple battle'''s''''' part from working - pointing to ''#Triple battle'' isn't working.
I cannot fix it myself, due to protection, and I figured the protecting admin was the best choice of person to ask. --'''HTMLCODER.exe@bulbapedia$_ [[User:HTMLCODER.exe|/usr]][[Special:Contributions/HTMLCODER.exe|/bin]][[User_talk:HTMLCODER.exe|/apache2]] -k restart''' 21:09, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
:Done. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 21:20, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
::Thank you ^_^ --'''HTMLCODER.exe@bulbapedia$_ [[User:HTMLCODER.exe|/usr]][[Special:Contributions/HTMLCODER.exe|/bin]][[User_talk:HTMLCODER.exe|/apache2]] -k restart''' 14:19, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

== Which one works? ==

The one that WHY DID YOU PUT THAT ON THE MAIN TEMPLATE PAGE WHILE IT'S IN USE?

YOU KILLED IT. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:26, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
:It's fixed now, so get over it and tell me which one you like best{{tt|.|If people listened in the chat then there wouldn't have been such a problem and it would have been sorted...}} —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:43, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

== Multiple accounts ==

<s>{{u|Cute Cyndaquil}} has a second account, {{u|Cute Pikachu}}. Can you please deal with this. I have given a message on [[User talk:Cute Cyndaquil|Cute Cyndaquil's talk page]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 07:50, 26 September 2010 (UTC)</s>
:{{u|Kogoro}} got it. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 08:19, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

==Anime screenshot links==
The screenshot links to Filb.de on the anime episode articles are no longer linking correctly. All lead to the main page on filb.de and not the desired episode screenshots. I changed the most recent ones, but that would mean fixing all the episodes back to AG001. Is there another way to fix this or does it have to be done manually? Thanks! --[[User:Rockersk08|rock]][[User talk:Rockersk08|ersk]][[Special:Contributions/Rockersk08|08]] 23:44, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
:Quite probably. I'll look into it. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 05:45, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
::Ugh. They've split them up into separate domains by series. There's no easy way to do it, although I can make a new intersite link or four. It'll still require millions of relinks. I'll forward this to the Echidna chappy I guess. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:43, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

== Lightningrod and Storm Drain ==

serebii says that this abillities also negate the damage in black and white. could someone add this to the templates? --[[User:Hanmac|Hanmac]] 07:49, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

== Cough ==

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Talk:Isshu#Just_throwing_this_out_there

At the bottom. Sawamular just proved your source wrong.
--[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 21:49, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

== Disambiguation Pages ==

This might be a rather stupid and noobish question of me, but it's obvious that there are quite a few Pokemon with main articles which lack disambiguation pages, and it's almost clear to me that it isn't in my power to make new ones. So, if it is possible, could you inform me of a way, or create some that I can list off the top of my head if it's for administrators only? Thanks in advance.

[[User:Kaboomustdie|Non-stop Hatred of Kabam- Kaboomustdie!]] 05:52, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

:Which ones are you thinking of? Are you sure they need to be disambiguated? —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 05:58, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Mostly starters that, due to their meager presence in the show, haven't had disambiguation pages even if they appear as a mainstay in various manga series. Like, say, Swampert, for example (both its pre-evolutions have disambiguation pages to them). That and Ponyta, the evolution of which has a disambiguation, as well as the other articles Ataro and I created a while ago, like Scizor, Machoke/Machamp, Golduck, and Porygon/Porygon2, off the top of my head. Oh, and the Aron line, too, but I might have forgotten a few that have main articles and lack these pages. Thanks in advance.

[[User:Kaboomustdie| Kaboomustdie]] 02:17, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Edit: Or for a more straightforward list (I assume that's the reason why you haven't responded in a while):

Swampert (Ruby's Zuzu)

Ponyta (Platinum's)

Scizor (Blue's)

Machoke and Machamp (again, Blue's)

Golduck (Blue's)

Porygon and Porygon2 (Blue's)

Aron, Lairon, and Aggron (Sapphire's "Rono")

Yeah, that's about it. Obviously, those with no nicknames were just given their trainer's names.

[[User:Kaboomustdie| Kaboomustdie]] 23:55, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

==SPAMMER ALERT==
Check out [[User:Pokemon5thgeneration]]. He's been spamming up the [[Isshu]] page. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 13:57, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

== I need help ==

Sorry about my article I'm just flustered because I don't know what to do. And that's not a problem. My problem is, I want my bulbapedia and bulbanews accounts to link. I know your not suppose to have multiple accounts, but when I tried to start it with the same name, it wouldn't work. is there a way to link my accounts to both have the name Shaymin Master426?

--[[User:Shaymin Master426|Shaymin Master426]] 01:50, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[[User:Shaymin Master426]]
:Odd. You've tried logging in with the same name and password here (Bulbapedia) as you have on Bulbanews? What is the error message that pops up? —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:59, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

::O.e I solved the problem but i feel dumb. I never knew that there was a bulbawiki''unified'' account already. I made a poll on the fourms and everything. But you dont understand, i have made a bulbanews article called "What we need" and "Nintendo moves to the next dimension." on another account. i understand that I can use my bulbapedia account for bulbanews and archives. Thank You!

Oh and one more thing, can you change my name to HailZekrom ? I feel bad for shaymin; he was myfavorite. but zekrom kikied him out. LOL

:: oh no. forgot sig. --[[User:Shaymin Master426|Shaymin Master426]] 06:20, 4 October 2010 (UTC
:::I can't change your name at the moment. The server is stressed because of the BW release. Please ensure that you only use one account now that this issue is sorted. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:30, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

::ok. i guess shaymin master 246 is gone. --[[User:Shaymin Master426|Shaymin Master426]] 19:50, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
:::It is. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:11, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
if you are stll reading this, i want to know how to archive user talk pages. plz and thank you.
--[[User:Shaymin Master426|Shaymin Master426]] 00:36, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
:You click "move" on the top of the page and move it to User talk:Shaymin Master426/Archive or whatever you want to call it.--[[User:Cold|Cold]] ([[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 00:41, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

==Account blocked==
If it's all the same, Id rather you blocked this one and send me a new password for Weedefinition. You see I use that username in both wikia and wikimedia edits and I've kinda grown attached to it :) [[User:WellyDawn|WellyDawn]] 23:26, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
:Understandable. I'm not entirely sure if I'm able to sent you a new password though. Have you checked your junk folder, etc., and has it gone to the right email address? I am able to check email addresses and see that the two accounts have different emails attached to them. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:30, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
::Well the system threw me out when I tried using the same Email for both accounts, so I used my backup Email, wellydawn@gmail.com. My primary Email is wellydawn@walla.com, that's the one I used for the Weedefinition account. [[User:WellyDawn|WellyDawn]] 23:40, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
:::How clever of it. Are you sure that it hasn't gone into a junk folder or anything? It might be possible for me to rename the old account to a generic name and then rename the new account WellyDawn as Weedefinition... but I wouldn't be able to do that until later in the day when traffic is lower. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:42, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
::::I'm absolutely sure it hasn't gone to any such place. I've double (and now triple) checked. I could try and have a new PW sent again. I'll try it and see what happens. [[User:WellyDawn|WellyDawn]] 23:51, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::Update: The system says the new PW should arrive within 24 hrs, which is something I must have missed. Anyway, thanks for all your help! I wish the admins in my wiki were this nice :) [[User:WellyDawn|WellyDawn]] 00:00, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

== Bulbagarden Upload Failure ==

Hiya, I have a question. How come only [[a:Archives:Administrators|Administrators]] are allowed to upload a file on [[Bulbagarden Archives]]? Thanks in advance.--[[User:Pokemaniac2000|Pokemaniac2000]] 02:34, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
:Primarily to prevent people from uploading duplicate images in the initial hype of Black and White. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:35, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

== Japanese names? ==

Hiya, again. Sorry to disturb you but I can't help but wonder how I can translate names of locations to Japanese? Is there a special command or something? Thanks in advance.--[[User:Pokemaniac2000|Pokemaniac2000]] 03:08, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
:Um... no... They would be taken from Japanese copies of the game in question. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:12, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

==Question about the Trivia section of Ash==
How come you edited the trivia section of the page on Ash so much? Sorry to add another section of your talk page.

User talk:Kenji-girl/Archive 15

2010-10-03T22:37:23Z

Patrickmck:

{{:User talk:Kenji-girl/Archive directory}}

== New page ==

This time I have made a page that is definatly noatable, [[User:05308/Ursala's Gabite]] this page should of been made months ago, well many have been mace but none have been mainspaced, but i should, with your approval of course [[User:05308|Lanturn....05308]] 20:17, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
:For one, somebody has already made a userspace page for Ursula's Gabite. [[User:Crikko/Ursula's Gabite]] There can only be one on Bulbapedia and since Crikko's was first, I'm going to have to delete yours. And we are still deciding on the notability of Ursula's Gabite. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 20:25, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
Fair enough but why is the page User:Crikko/Ursula's Gabite and not Ursala's Gabite and why do no pages link to it ? [[User:05308|Lanturn....05308]] 20:30, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
:Because like you, the user created a prototype page. A page to possibly be mainspaced. We don't link to userspace pages on the mainspace. If you want to look and see if anyone created a possible article, try searching under the User namespace. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 22:09, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
Ok, but the "Nando's Kricketune" page was made by another user and looked like Crrikkos page, but now it dose not?_it looks like all the other Anime character's Pokémon [[User:05308|Lanturn....05308]] 22:13, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
:Nando's Kricketune was created by The Great Butler and was mainspaced some time ago. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 22:17, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
I know, it was me who suggested he make it, but why is Crikkos page for Ursla's Gabite not mainspaced ? [[User:05308|Lanturn....05308]] 22:18, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
::First off, all mainspaceable pages in the userspace are listed [[User:Maverick Nate/Mainspace|Here]]. Secondly, no Kenji, they are not deleted just because another one already exists. They are consolidated into the best article, not the first. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 22:22, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
So who evaluates these pages and mainspaces them?, there are some pretty good pages here that are very notible (mine included ;) [[User:05308|Lanturn....05308]] 22:27, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
:Whenever I feel like there are too many pages on the template, I ask around to fellow admins about if we can mainspace them or not. That's mostly who evaluates them. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 22:39, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
hmm. but User:Crikko/Ursula's Gabite must of been there for months and it still has not been mainspaced, despite being a notable and qualaty article [[User:05308|Lanturn....05308]] 22:42, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

== Hey KG ==

Just thought I would drop you a line. As leader of Project Anime, and a Senior Administrator, I thought you could do everyone a small favor. Can you head on over and check out my comment on Ash's talk page? Thank you so much in advance.--[[User:Jediknightdtv|JediKnight]][[User talk:Jediknightdtv|DTV]] 16:07, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
:Thank you so much for updating Ash's party, KG. Ash is my absolute favorite character, and it frustrated me to no end to have to see his party out of date, and not be able to do anything about it. I just wanted to let you know how grateful I am that I will not have to see his party out of date for the next two weeks, until Best Wishes airs. I was beginning to think that it would never get changed (well, at least not until the premier of Best Wishes). Anyway, thanks again. --[[User:Jediknightdtv|JediKnight]][[User talk:Jediknightdtv|DTV]] 02:06, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

== Infernape ==

Now that Flints has made yet another appearance in [[DP191]], may I request again that my page be mainspaced ? [[User:05308|Lanturn....05308]] 18:18, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

==Misty and Brock==
How come there isn't a disambiguation page for [[Misty]] and [[Misty (anime)]], and [[Brock]] and [[Brock (anime)]]? Do you think you could add one, or is there a certain requirement that the pages need in order to get one? [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 18:53, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
:It's because [[Misty]] is about Misty in general, whereas [[Misty (anime)]] is more of a subsection to it. If you go to the anime section on Misty's page, it will tell you that the main article is Misty (anime). Same applies to Brock. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 02:56, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

== Storm of sand ==

I think that you should do last decision on Ash's Gliscor's move in [[DP100]]. See [[User talk:Littlmiget123|this]] and [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Sandstorm_%28move%29&action=history this]--[[User:Dennou Zenshi|でんのう]] ☢ [[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|'''Z'''えんし]] 18:48, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
:Also, the Japanese Pokémon encyclopedia or whatever it is called is the only site that says that {{AP|Gliscor}} used Sandstorm, but it also lists Quick Attack, so...--[[User:Dennou Zenshi|でんのう]] ☢ [[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|'''Z'''えんし]] 16:44, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for introducing me to this site, and the rules and guidlines. and sorry for creating a page with 1 sentence for it. when i have time i'll do that page again but have more content on it {{unsigned|Mash4eva}}

don't forget to sign your comments with 4 tildes ~ <--(these things) [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 00:24, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

== {{p|Shandera}} ==

If it can't be moved to {{p|Chandela}}, then {{p|Wargle}} should be moved back to {{p|Wooguru}}. --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 22:48, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
:Wargle is confirmed trademarked romaji. Chandela isn't. We can't assume that it is. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 23:09, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

== Okay ==

I can stop using edit sumaries to rant. But I can't see admins doing anything good recently. The latest closure of Bulbapedia has left a big mess. And I don't understand what is the admins' recent problem with Hepburn romanization. We've been using it on Bulbapedia since ever. But suddenly someone said that it's wrong. I don't understand this. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 09:18, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
:I realize that. But many new Junior Admins were hired and they probably got some wrong information. Many of the articles were created before the katakana was seen. They or the other sources probably read the katakana wrong.

:The admins have been very overworked lately trying to upgrade all of the learnset pages. Which is why they hired so many new admins. Try to be patient. We are working on correcting the errors. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 09:29, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

==NegaiShipping==

Does the link at the bottom count as "hints"?[[User:Patrickmck|Patrickmck]] 22:37, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

User talk:ArcToraphim/Archive2

2010-10-03T22:33:18Z

Patrickmck:

*[[User talk:ArcToraphim/Archive1|Archive 1]]

== Battle judge ==

Nice article. Just remember that when you create pages you should link to them in other articles so that people can find them (and improve them!). If they don't get links they'll end up on [[Special:LonelyPages|this dungheap]]. Cheers, —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 11:52, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
:It was late, trom. x_x That's my excuse and I'm sticking with it. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 12:50, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

== Feeling Shipping ==

I have noticed no one made a Yellow and Green page yet.is it ok if i make one? {{unsigned|Rubybrendan}}
:Administrative note: moved here from Luna's talk archive —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:01, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

== A question ==

Ah... hello. I have a question relating a shipping article that I started (sorry, did so without permission...) and was deleted by Magnedeth for reasons I don't quite understand; it doesn't help that no discussion items were left behind.

The ship is the SoulSilver one (Silver/Lyra), from HGSS. That one ship bothers me to no end, but I acknowledge that it's valid, so I thought it would be a good idea to start the article over at the shipping category, where I couldn't find it by that name (the only one I know for it), nor by checking the category for Silver nor HGSS pairings. And since over at the TV Tropes wiki it's no big deal for anybody to create an article, I went ahead with the idea, and let it remain a stub because it really is not my ship of choice.

Shortly thereafter, the article was deleted. I went to look at the Project Shipping page (...again; I had checked it before many times), which was the one I guessed was the relevant one for the case, and I kind of didn't find my article violating the rules, so I was left with just a question (OK, at last, this one goes for you): why was the article on the SoulSilverShipping deleted? --[[User:KayiR|KayiR]] 07:13, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

:It was deleted on the basis that the article would never be more than a stub, and all of its hints would be the same as Huntershipping. It would be like making an article for Clingyshipping (Barry/Lucas), NewRivalshipping (May/Wally) or Namelessshipping (Fire!Red/Blue) and expecting the article to be exceptionally different from (and not something that could be c/p'd to) an article on Conflictingshipping (Blue/Leaf), Loverivalshipping (Brendan/Wally), or a game!version only article of {{s|Twinleaf}}.
:Anything that could be said about SoulSilvershipping could be equally applied to Huntershipping; it's not exactly an exclusive 'ship in terms of its hints. And seeing as the opposite gender NPC doesn't crash into the rival at any point (save for the very beginning), the NPC cannot give an individual account of what they think of Silver, which takes even more individual hints away. The entire basis of either 'ship needs to come from Silver (you being the silent protag), and anything he says to Lyra is also the same thing he says to Ethan. So what's considered a hint for one must be considered a hint for the other. It'd be a pretty bias article, on that front. I'll think about if anything can be done in other ways for the couple, but as an individual article, I don't think it will stand up. Thank you for asking, though. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 14:48, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

::Mmm... And shouldn't it be better to at least acknowledge its existence, then say something like "the hints that apply to HunterShipping apply for SoulSilverShipping"? I mean, in case someone else with the same idea as me, but an actual supporter of the ship, came around and made an even bigger fuss? --[[User:KayiR|KayiR]] 17:28, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

:::We hold stricter notability standards for shipping articles. Not every pairing thought of by three fans deserves an entire page. For the ships that aren't notable for their own pages, we have lists of ships. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 17:45, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
::::Except SoulSilvershipping is ''popular'', Buzz. However, popularity isn't a reason for notability if its article cannot sustain itself properly. And if people who support it come along and wish to make it, they will likely be given the same reasons they cannot. And like I said, I'll think of something for it. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 18:06, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::Don't some shipping articles have "other names for this ship" sections? Maybe a similar section could be added to HunterShipping, noting that SoulSilverShipping is the shipping name for Silver/Lyra, which goes by the same hints... I realize this could cause a fuss for a completely different reason, but it was the first thing I thought of, so I thought I'd suggest it. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 18:36, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

== Specialshipping ==

How isn't Specialshipping canon?! --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 23:23, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
:....Because Kusaka didn't make it canon...? [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 23:25, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
::Red and Yellow's [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RedStringOfFate red string of fate] doesn't count? --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 23:31, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
:::That simply means they're destined in some fashion; if this were a shoujo series, I'd be more inclined to agree, but it's shounen. It ain't canon until they're confirmed feelings. Frantic did it, and even Graceful referred back to having been ex-canon and possibly future canon. Commoner is apparently one-sided, which doesn't make it canon at all in terms of romance, but canon in terms of character traits.
:::I don't take kindly to people who assume 'ships are true when they are undoubtedly not. In the mean time, the red string is still only a hint. A hint to possibly something bigger, but even without a partial confession, or a scene where it's obvious their dating, it's not canon. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 23:50, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

== Luckyshipping ==

For the trivia you mentioned, "I was wary of the second piece of trivia before, but I've decided neither are viable. The rumor is left because its directly related to the manga's events". Did you notice it was in the trivia section? It's just some unimportant facts that people should know. It doesn't necessarily mean Trivia has to be with the Manga. Sorry to bother you about it ^^ Just wondering why it was removed.
[[User:XLuckyshipper|Luckyshipping - Because they're lucky to be together]] 00:00, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
:I did notice it was trivia (I said it was as much). I removed it because while color-linking is common in video games, it doesn't necessarily mean it's a connection to the 'ship itself. Color-linking usually has a blue-red(-black) pattern, but in this case, it's not connected to the original series, seeing as it's Red/Green+Blue, not Red/Blue+Green (and that would only be a hint for the hero/rival, because the girl is the +1 regardless of what colors you do). J!Blue is an afterthought beyond J!Red/Green.
:I also removed the trivia on BurningLeafshipping, because Red and Leaf don't exist in the same space in the games. If you choose Red, Leaf doesn't exist in-game, and vice-versa. It's commonly accepted they're meant to be the same person, as in, they're different gender variants of the same being: the hero. BurningLeafshipping has as much connection to Luckyshipping as Twinleafshipping has to Haughtyshipping: entirely different circumstances. One's relation has no impact on the other's.
:That was pretty much why. *nod* [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 00:43, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
::Oh, I see now. Thank you for the response; I understand now. [[User:XLuckyshipper|Luckyshipping - Because they're lucky to be together]] 19:01, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

== Headline text ==
Hello. I hope I'm leaving the comment right... Umm does bulbapedia need an article on Coupleshipping?? If so may I do it please. (Sry I'm new here....) [[User:Diamond-Contestshipper|Diamond-Contestshipper]] 16:41, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
:Coupleshipping? No such thing. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 19:15, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
::Oh...I saw it on google so..yeah sorry about that. :( [[User:Diamond-Contestshipper|Diamond-Contestshipper]] 16:04, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
:::First of all, you ought to give relevant titles to sections you make. "Headline text" doesn't explain a thing about what you're trying to ask. Secondly, you don't need to start a new section if your new post is on the topic of your previous section. Just indent (using ":") to reply to a previous post. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 16:29, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
:Technically, Coupleshipping is "Lucas/Mars/Dawn" and nothing Dawn/Ash/Drew/May/whatever related. And 3somes don't get articles. But any articles we do need are [[Bulbapedia:Project_Shipping/To-do_list|here]], so please feel free, once you read the requirements for making an article. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 18:20, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

== Grings Kōdai ==
Hey, sorry to bug you, but I was wondering if we could get [[Kōdai]] moved to [[Grings Kōdai]] now. The movie's out, and I see no reason to believe that isn't his canon full name. Just wanted to ask. --[[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] 07:43, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
:Better to ask something like Kenji on that. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 11:30, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

== New Shipping ==

Excuse me, I have a very important shipping that needs to be added. I belive it is you i must talk to to create it. It is called either HatShipping or JohtoShipping, wich ever you think is better, and it is between Lyra and Ethan. Also, could it be on
Category:Shipping as well as The List of shippers? If nessacary, I will write the page for you. Its sorta like the FortuneShipping of Johto. Speaking of wich, you could probably edit piece of trivia no 8 a bit on your page. [[Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions|Yata.]]--Dermodio 15:13, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
:Lyra/Ethan is called HeartSoulshipping, and I'm not sure at all if they even interact enough in-game for an article. If you want to try to write an article, first make it in your userspace. Something like '''User:Dermodia/HeartSoulShipping''' and if the article turns out fine, we can make it a full-fledged article. But if it doesn't make the cut, it will not be. You understand? [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 16:59, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Okely Dokely. I will do so as soon as possible. --Dermodio 09:54, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

== My edit in the AdvanceShipping article ==

Hi, I hope it's ok that I'm putting this here and not on the AdvanceShipping discussion page, but I was afraid you wouldn't see this there, since it wasn't used in nearly 2 years...

Anyway, You removed the part I added about the Prince and King of the Sea.

I just wanted to clarify that I didn't mean to say that the titles are related is a fact, just that it's another possible support to the Manaphy sees Ash as his Father theory (I did call it a theory, after all). And Ash is called the King of the Sea, [[Ship]] states that "He who holds the Sea Crown shall become the true King of the Sea." when explaining Ash new powers (At least in the Japanese version, I didn't saw the dubbed version so I don't know if something similar was said there).

Again, I hope that I'm not doing anything wrong by putting this here. [[User:Cag|Cag]] 16:27, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
:Wild speculation without basis doesn't belong on these articles, much like it doesn't belong on any mainspace article. Context is one thing, but nothing I removed is relative to the theory. You implied the titles were related simply by using it as "support" for a theory that's pretty far-fetched to begin with and shouldn't be in the article at all (but I'm letting it stay anyway). Without a connection to the titles, you're basically inserting [[fanon]], and I've grounds to remove what isn't supported in canon.
:And if that is the line, then Ash's claim to the "King of the Sea" title is a throw-away line, BTW. Nothing more than a statement connecting back to the legend without impacting Ash's story. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 18:33, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
:: I can't exactly say I agree with you about it being baseless speculation, but I see your point (Well, since you're the project leader, I guess it doesn't really matter whether I see your point or not XD). Oh well, at least most of my edit is still there for now. Thanks for answering my question! :) [[User:Cag|Cag]] 19:51, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

== Shipping article ==
ok so can i add ships i think need an article in the Well it would be nice... section? [[User:Mash4eva|Mash4eva]] 15:06, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
:You could, but if I don't think the pairing would make a decent article, I'll only take it off. And if you make too many of those, it'll only be annoying, you know? It's too presumptuous. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 16:39, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

==NegaiShipping==

Does the link at the bottom count as "hints"?[[User:Patrickmck|Patrickmck]] 22:33, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Talk:BW003

2010-10-02T13:52:56Z

Patrickmck: /* Pokemon Lecture? */

==Pokemon Lecture?==
I read on the forum for this episdoe that Professer Oak did a newsflash.[[User:Patrickmck|Patrickmck]] 13:52, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

== Edit request!!! ==

<nowiki>{{an|Iris}}</nowiki> ---> <nowiki>[[Iris]]</nowiki>--[[User:Dennou Zenshi|でんのう]] ☢ [[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|'''Z'''えんし]] 19:32, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
:Countdown to everyone realizing I was right about her in-game role being important. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:14, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Talk:BW003

2010-10-02T13:51:01Z

Patrickmck: /* Intro */

==Pokemon Lecture?==
I read on the forum for this episdoe that Professer Oak did a newsflash.

== Edit request!!! ==

<nowiki>{{an|Iris}}</nowiki> ---> <nowiki>[[Iris]]</nowiki>--[[User:Dennou Zenshi|でんのう]] ☢ [[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|'''Z'''えんし]] 19:32, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
:Countdown to everyone realizing I was right about her in-game role being important. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:14, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Fanfare of the Heart

2010-09-30T23:24:24Z

Patrickmck: /* Trivia */

{{PrevNext|
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{{Song|
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language=ja |
title=心のファンファーレ |
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artistname=奥井亜紀 |
artistname_ro=Aki Okui |
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lyricistname=ＢＷプロジェクト |
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composername=田代智一 |
composername_ro=Tashiro Tomokazu |
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'''Fanfare of the Heart''' (Japanese: '''心のファンファーレ''' ''Kokoro no Fanfare'') is the first ending theme of the Best Wishes series. It debuted in [[BW003]], replacing ''[[In Your Heart, LaLaLa‎]]'' of the {{series|Diamond & Pearl}}.

==Synopsis==

===Humans===
* {{Ash}}
* {{an|Iris}}
* {{an|Dent}}

===Pokémon===
* {{p|Pikachu}} ({{op|Ash|Pikachu}})
* {{p|Kibago}} ({{op|Iris|Kibago}})
* {{p|Yanappu}} ({{op|Dent|Yanappu}})
* {{p|Mijumaru}}
* {{p|Pokabu}}
* {{p|Tsutarja}}

==Lyrics==
===TV Size===

===Full version===

==Trivia==

Four Pokemon, which includes a Pikachu, are shown playing instuments.

==Variants==

==External Links==

{{Japanese ending themes}} 
{{PrevNext|
prev=In Your Heart, LaLaLa |
next=None |
list=Japanese ending themes |
colorscheme=Isshu}}
{{Project Music notice}}

[[Category:Japanese ending themes]]

Ash's Oshawott

2010-09-30T23:19:58Z

Patrickmck: /* History */

{{AnimePokémonInfobox|
type1=Water|
trainername=Ash|
pokemonname=Mijumaru|
jtrainername=サトシ|
jpokemonname=ミジュマル|
tmtrainername=Satoshi|
tmpokemonname=Mijumaru|
image=[[File:Ash Mijumaru.png|250px]] |
caption=Ash's Mijumaru |
location=[[Isshu]] |
epnum=BW001 |
epname= |
catchepnum= BW003 |
catchepname= |
prevonum=500|
current=With {{Ash}}|
enva1=N/A|
java1=Misato Fukuen|
}}
'''Ash's Mijumaru''' (Japanese: '''サトシのミジュマル''' ''Satoshi's Mijumaru'') is the second Pokémon that {{Ash}} caught in the [[Isshu]] region.

==History==

Ash first met Mijumaru in Professor Araragi's laboratory in [[BW001]], under her ownership. It took an interest in Ash after he called it cute and began following him, watching from behind a tree when Ash was battling against [[Shooti]], then making sure he was okay after {{p|Zekrom}} restored {{AP|Pikachu}}'s electricity. It continued to follow him after he set out on his journey, mostly staying out of sight.

In [[BW002]], it reappeared after Ash's {{AP|Mamepato}} was defeated, rescuing Pikachu and {{TP|Iris|Kibago}} from Team Rocket by throwing its shell, popping [[Team Rocket]]'s balloon. Shortly afterward, Mijumaru used {{m|Water Gun}} on Jessie's {{TP|Jessie|Koromori}} saving Pikachu and Kibago again.

In [[BW003]], Mijumaru showed its interest in traveling with Ash and successfully convinced Ash to take it with him on his journey. In its attempt it knocked Pikach off Ash's shoulder. When Ash tried to catch it with a [[Poké Ball]], it failed as it was still under [[Professor Araragi]]'s ownership. He immediately called Araragi and requested she send him Mijumaru's [[Poké Ball]]. Later on, Mijumaru stoped Pikachu from following Ash into a rushing hot water spring. Mijumaru helped Ash from a hot spring geyser by using {{m|Water Gun}}. Finally, Ash officially called it back to its Poké Ball in order to prevent it from falling into the hot water.

==Moves used==
{{anmov/h|water||Mijumaru {{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 3}}|0|1=Water Gun Pre|2=anime}}.png|Using {{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 3}}|0|1=Water Gun|2=Shell Blade}}}}
{{anmov|water|Water Gun|BW002|rec=yes}}
{{anmov|water|Shell Blade|BW002}}
{{anmov/f|water}}

==Trivia==
*Mijumaru's capture was first revealed in a short preview aired after [[DP190]], featuring all the [[Starter Pokémon#Isshu|Isshu starters]].
*Similar to {{AP|Aipom}} and {{AP|Gible}}, it followed Ash behind his back and debuted few episodes earlier before its official capture.
*Mijumaru is the first Starter Pokémon that Ash has captured first in its region and isn't the region's Grass-type starter.
**It is also the first [[starter Pokémon]], other than {{AP|Pikachu}}, Ash has obtained that was previously owned by the [[Pokémon Professor|regional professor]].
*Mijumaru is the first Water-type starter Ash has caught since {{AP|Totodile}} in Johto.

==Related articles==

{{Animespecies|Mijumaru}}
{{-}}
{{Ash's Pokémon|water}} 
{{Project Anime notice|no}}

[[Category:Ash's Pokémon|Mijumaru]]

Ash's Oshawott

2010-09-30T22:33:17Z

Patrickmck: /* History */

{{AnimePokémonInfobox|
type1=Water|
trainername=Ash|
pokemonname=Mijumaru|
jtrainername=サトシ|
jpokemonname=ミジュマル|
tmtrainername=Satoshi|
tmpokemonname=Mijumaru|
image=[[File:Ash Mijumaru.png|250px]] |
caption=Ash's Mijumaru |
location=[[Isshu]] |
epnum=BW001 |
epname= |
catchepnum= BW003 |
catchepname= |
prevonum=500|
current=With {{Ash}}|
enva1=N/A|
java1=Misato Fukuen|
}}
'''Ash's Mijumaru''' (Japanese: '''サトシのミジュマル''' ''Satoshi's Mijumaru'') is the second Pokémon that {{Ash}} caught in the [[Isshu]] region.

==History==

Ash first met Mijumaru in Professor Araragi's laboratory in [[BW001]], under her ownership. It took an interest in Ash after he called it cute and began following him, watching from behind a tree when Ash was battling against [[Shooti]], then making sure he was okay after {{p|Zekrom}} restored {{AP|Pikachu}}'s electricity. It continued to follow him after he set out on his journey, mostly staying out of sight.

In [[BW002]], it reappeared after Ash's {{AP|Mamepato}} was defeated, rescuing Pikachu and {{TP|Iris|Kibago}} from Team Rocket by throwing its shell, popping [[Team Rocket]]'s balloon. Shortly afterward, Mijumaru used {{m|Water Gun}} on Jessie's {{TP|Jessie|Koromori}} saving Pikachu and Kibago again.

In [[BW003]], Mijumaru showed its interest in traveling with Ash and successfully convinced Ash to take it with him on his journey. When Ash tried to catch it with a [[Poké Ball]], it failed as it was still under [[Professor Araragi]]'s ownership. He immediately called Araragi and requested she send him Mijumaru's [[Poké Ball]]. Later on, when Ash ran to rescue pokemon from a hot p Mijumaru helped Ash from a hot spring geyser by using {{m|Water Gun}}. Finally, Ash officially called it back to its Poké Ball in order to prevent it from falling into the hot water.

==Moves used==
{{anmov/h|water||Mijumaru {{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 3}}|0|1=Water Gun Pre|2=anime}}.png|Using {{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 3}}|0|1=Water Gun|2=Shell Blade}}}}
{{anmov|water|Water Gun|BW002|rec=yes}}
{{anmov|water|Shell Blade|BW002}}
{{anmov/f|water}}

==Trivia==
*Mijumaru's capture was first revealed in a short preview aired after [[DP190]], featuring all the [[Starter Pokémon#Isshu|Isshu starters]].
*Similar to {{AP|Aipom}} and {{AP|Gible}}, it followed Ash behind his back and debuted few episodes earlier before its official capture.

==Related articles==

{{Animespecies|Mijumaru}}
{{-}}
{{Ash's Pokémon|water}} 
{{Project Anime notice|no}}

[[Category:Ash's Pokémon|Mijumaru]]

Talk:BW003

2010-09-30T18:09:32Z

Patrickmck: /* From the lab */

== Edit request!!! ==

<nowiki>{{an|Iris}}</nowiki> ---> <nowiki>[[Iris]]</nowiki>--[[User:Dennou Zenshi|でんのう]] ☢ [[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|'''Z'''えんし]] 19:32, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
:Countdown to everyone realizing I was right about her in-game role being important. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:14, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

==From the lab==

Did the Pokemon Ash caught really come from the lab? Somehow I thought it was wild...[[User:Patrickmck|Patrickmck]] 18:01, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
:Opps. I didn't watch this episode, but watched BW001 and BW002. Sorry again.[[User:Patrickmck|Patrickmck]] 18:09, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Talk:BW003

2010-09-30T18:08:58Z

Patrickmck: /* From the lab */

Talk:BW003

2010-09-30T18:01:37Z

Patrickmck: /* Edit request!!! */

User:Patrickmck

2010-09-16T00:43:05Z

Patrickmck: /* Intro */

Hi
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Talk:Gym Leader/Archive 1

2010-09-16T00:30:40Z

Patrickmck: /* Isshu Gym Leaders */

Is it necessary to have "Jimu Rīdā" in there when that's just the Japanese pronunciation of "Gym Leader" to begin with? --BJG

Of course it is. JAPANESE IS GOOD AND ENGLISH IS BAD. Jimu Riidaa is obviously a different phrase than Gym Leader, and NoA CHANGED IT AND BASTARDISED IT when they translated the games! Just like Kurisutaru and Crystal are also DIFFERENT WORDS and so are Reddo/Red, and so forth. --Ketsuban

Assuming you were kidding, Ketsuban, I changed the Japanese to "Gym Leader"... also I got rid of some of the info at the beginning that was already covered under [[Gym]] AND [[Badge]]. If anyone thought it was also necessary here, feel free to revert back. Also, regarding this page, do we need to have the USE of the Badge if that's already covered under [[Badge]]? Also, shouldn't all the Badges be linked to the Badge page? --[[User:Greengiant|Greengiant]] 01:49, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I agree with linking the badges to the Badge page. [[User:Surskitty|surskitty]] 21:03, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I thought the [[Badge]] page was mostly there so that individual illustrations of each badge would have a place to go. - Zeta

== Leader name and badge change ==

i changed Wake and Candice's stuff because of this
http://usera.imagecave.com/NeoSeifer/SinnohGymLeaders.bmp.jpg 
--{{unsigned|DSDark}}

Not too surprised that they're calling him Wake. After all, his full Japanese name (Maximum Maxi) was shortened to just Maxi. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] 14:54, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

== Jasmine comment ==
An NPC in the Lighthouse in G/S/C mentions that Jasmine used to train Rock-type Pokémon. Her badge's name (Mineral) also sounds a little like a Rock-type badge. Therefore, hasn't every region technically had a Rock-type gym at some point?--[[User:Nebula|Nebula]] 22:55, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
:Unless there is a source that gives some of the Olivine Gym's history, we don't know for sure if it was ever for Rock types. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 23:50, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
::NPCS confirm that Jasmine did used to train Rock types as a Gym leader. [[User:IIMarckus|IIMarckus]] 18:31, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
:::Yeah, there's a bloke (I think he's a sailor) in the lighthouse. He says he returned from his travels to Olivine and was shocked to find that the Gym Leader had change the type she specialised in. Hope this helps. [[User:Flicky|Fli]][[User talk:Flicky|cky]][[User:Flicky/Latin|1991]] 19:52, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

== Trivia, Trivia, and MORE Trivia ==

So last night I was really bored and decided to see any patterns in the Gym Leaders, along with some awkward stuff too..

*There are *usually* 4 females, and 4 males, however [[Johto]] breaks this rule, with 3 girls and 5 males. Unless Bugsy is a girl.
*Hoenn, has 4 Special-typed gyms, and 4 Physical-typed gyms. Hell, the gender is split evenly along Special and Physical, with 2 females and 2 males specializing in Special-type, and vice versa. Otherwise, the amount of Special-based and Physical-based are uneven.
*There was something else, but I can't remember it at this moment.

..yeah, I was bored alright. [[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[Special:Contributions/TinaTheKirlia|☆]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]]{{ani|281}} 05:16, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
:Usually 4/4? No... Kanto's 5/3 in I/III. Johto's 5/3. Hoenn's got 5/4 in both RS and E. Sinnoh's 4/4. Neo Kanto's 4/4. Though Hoenn's Physical/Special split is correct. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 06:44, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

* The face of Bugsy is truly male, not female. That's why Johto have 4 males gym leaders and 4 females gym leaders. Joannes
:Bugsy being male makes it 5/3, not 4/4. God, why can no one count... or spell. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 14:01, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

== good trivia, I think ==

All the kanto gym types, before blue and with the exception of saffron's gym, are followed by a gym type with an advantage to them. Also all the johto gym types, with the exception of goldenrod's gym, precede a type they have an advantage against. [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 18:20, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
:See, whenever there's an "exception" in something like this, it makes it a lot weaker. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 18:36, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
::Normal-types are immune to ghosts, so that might not really be an exception. I think this is very interesting, since I'd never noticed that pattern before. [[User:IIMarckus|IIMarckus]] 18:37, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

==Redundancy==

Why is there a separate list for the Diamond/Pearl and Platinum gym leaders? [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 20:28, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
:The order changed in Pt.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 20:32, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
::Orders can't change. Most of the time you either go down a set path, or you have some freedom in going to towns in what order you like. Now, unless the path was set and they rearranged the landscape to put one city before another, I find it highly unlikely that the "order was changed". [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 20:36, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
:::It was changed. You '''must''' fight Fantina in order to go further than Hearthome City, or else you're blocked in. The order is changed and set. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 20:45, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
::::That's not reason enough for me. Removed. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 20:48, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::I'm sorry but you do not have the authority to do that. Try a stunt like that again and you're blocked. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 20:59, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::How do I "not have the authority"? This is a Wikipedia, and is freely edited by its users... I'm not some guest, or low-level, never-edits user. I feel that that information is redundant, and should be removed. You cannot block me for doing something that is not in any way vandalism, or addition of non-notable, or un-verified information. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 21:03, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::I am an admin and I do not want this changed. You are going against an admin decision and that's what you can get blocked for. BTW, this is verified information. Why don't you try playing Platinum before you call something un-verified. What you were putting was not true. Fantina is not the fifth Gym Leader fought in Platinum. Crasher Wake is. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 21:10, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::::I don't care if you are an admin. This is a freely-edited Wiki, and you can't have the articles exactly as ''you'' like them; they have to be encyclopedic.

::::::::I never said that that was unverified information. If you had read what I said clearly, you'd know that I was using that as an example to block someone; not as to the information in this article.

::::::::Finally, in Red/Blue/Yellow, you could fight Erika or Sabrina in any order. Heck, you could outright skip some gym leaders... So how were the lists for those gym leaders compiled in that specific order? We might as well make lists of every conceivable order, right? This article is about the '''gym leaders''', not the order of said leaders. Including the same leaders twice is nothing but redundant, and clogs space. 21:16, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

:::::::::Besides, you just called this wiki a {{wp|Main Page|Wikipedia}}. Bulbapedia's license and most of its practices are different from that of Wikipedia. Maybe if you read over {{bp|Manual of style|our manual of style}} and {{wp|Wikipedia:Manual of Style|Wikipedia's manual of style}}, you'll see just how vastly different Bulbapedia is...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 21:17, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::Your point being? I have read the manuals, and I see nothing on Bulba's that suggests this Wiki is not freely edited. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 21:21, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::If we let every user do what ever the hell they wanted to do then this place would be a mess. Admins need to take charge at times. It's not entirely free as you say. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 21:23, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::::Umm... You make me out to be an anarchist. I fully realize that admins are needed to police the edits and make sure nothing extreme is done. And by extreme I mean what I said earlier: outright vandalism, and non-notable or un-verified fancruft/rumours. And edit pertaining to the article itself, and in no way harming, only benefiting it, is clearly outside the range of an admin's stated purpose, and falls only into your personal opinion. As an admin, you cannot have a personal opinion that gets in the way of intelligent editing. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 21:26, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::::The point is you did not ask proper permission or talked it out on the talk page. You just went ahead and removed it. Anyway, were working on a solution so both parties will be happy. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 21:29, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::::::I apologize for not going through the proper channels. Like so many other people on the Internet, I was "in a bad mood". Lame excuse, but at least I've gone through it quick enough that we can discuss this right. The article can remain the same if you like, though I feel it's redundant, but a notice explaining the redundancy would be a fair compromise. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 21:32, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

===Attention all===
Gym Leaders all go in badge case order as of the most recent game they appear in. Since that order doesn't change between games (RGBYFRLG all use the same one, that is), that'll be our standard. Especially considering the ability for you to do badges out of order in some games (Kanto especially). '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:34, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
:Badge case order in Platinum is still Maylene-Wake-Fantina for those of you who don't feel like checking, so I guess the above argument could have been diverted x.x '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 21:39, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

::Trust me, we really don't want to go disputing the order of gym leaders, especially in the case of Kanto in [[Generation I]] if we bring {{g|Stadium 2}}'s Color Case exploit into things...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 21:43, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

== HG/SS Kanto Gym Leaders ==

Do the Kanto Gym Leaders in HG/SS have VS sprites like the Johto ones? --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 20:46, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
:Don't know but since there details coming in it is better to wait a few days and see so just be patient. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 20:50, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
::The answer is yes. Blaine's in particular is amusing, because he does a peace sign.--[[User:Ryuutakeshi|Ryuutakeshi]] 23:15, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
:::Someone should upload them, then. --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 03:03, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
::::Already have. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 03:04, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

== Interchangeable Sprites and VS Sprites ==

Do you think we can make it so that the sprites will change from the VS sprites to the regular sprites every so often? It seems kinda weird that only the GenIII ones won't have the VS sprites while everyting else will. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 03:06, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
:Yeah felt the same way of roaming the images and finding that not all Gym Leaders are going to get headshots so I will support your proposal. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 03:08, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
::It's a very good idea! I support it also. -- [[User:RikkiKitsune|R<s>ikki</s>]][[User talk:RikkiKitsune|Kitsune]] 03:10, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

== Johto Gym Leader new Sugimori art ==

Why do the first four have it but the last four still have the artwork from Gen II? --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 20:46, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
:'Cause the others haven't been uploaded yet.--'''Dark''' [[Mask of Ice|'''ICE''']] (User:Cold)([[user:Cold|page]], [[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 20:51, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
::Do you know where whoever uploaded the first four got them from so I can upload the rest? --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 21:16, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
:::They're on the official Japaneses website. So far, only the first four have been revealed. --[[User:Mr.lol|Mr.lol]] 21:20, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
::::Whoever put up the rest of the Johto gym leader artwork, good job. Now we need the new Kanto gym leader artwork.--[[User:Black Artist|Black Artist]] 20:48, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

== Indigo League.. ==

Why is it that we use the small first generation art, instead of the full sized [http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee357/Pichu_Chu/55895900546.jpg ones]? [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 01:37, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
:On this page we are using their ingame sprites, not their official art. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:44, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
::I meant in their own pages. [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 01:45, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
::: Anyway, the ones you link to are too small--[[User:Black Artist|Black Artist]] 02:24, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
::::I have larger ones on my PC, but they have some sort of black background around them and I don't have Photoshop. [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 02:30, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

== Still more trivia. ==

Picknicker Liz just phoned to mention that Gym Leader Whitney was chosen by the League shortly after becoming a trainer. I guess that means they are using a talent scout system of some kind. *shrug* --[[User:PLA|PLA]] 07:59, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
:I can confirm that. I'll do something with it on some article... —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 04:35, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

== Pryce ==

In this article, it puts Pryce as the 7th gym leader. I battled him before Chuck or Jasmine-because I hadn't even gotten to their respective cities yet. There was a guy in front of the door, but he disappeared after the souveneir shop thing. Pryces article said that he couldn't be battled until you defeat Team Rocket in their headquarters, but now i'm confused as to whether it meant the thing i did, or another event later in the game. And no, i have never used an external device or, to the best of my knowledge, any glitches. [[User:Flyingtypefan|Flyingtypefan]] 08:17, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
:Pryce is meant to be the seventh Gym Leader, but you can defeat most of them in any order. For example, in Kanto you can skip Lt. Surge and Sabrina until almost just before taking on the Viridian Gym if you so desire. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:56, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
Oh. I thought the table might have been out of order or something. Thanks. [[User:Flyingtypefan|Flyingtypefan]] 22:40, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

In HG/SS, you can battle Chuck, Jasmine, and Pryce in any order you choose. Due to the fact that the road splits after Morty, you can battle any of the three in any order you want. I personally battled Jasmine before Chuck. It all depends on where you want to go. If you are not sure which way to go, look at the Pokegear and the strategy guide if you have it. If there is a Pokemon you want, (because you might still be building your party to how you want it) then go the path that leads you there the quickest. In Kanto, I went the route suggested and beat 4 Gyms in one day and 3 the next. It was all based on my thought process at the time. It is like so many things in Pokemon, it is all based on decision.
To answer your question, the souveneir shop thing is supposed to happen before Pryce. You did the right thing. [[User:Pokemon26|Pokemon26]] 18:24, 21 July 2010.

== Could we add==

: shouldn't we add aloe and dento here as well as the isshu region?[[User:Badwolf1234|Badwolf1234]] 05:56, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
:: I think their waiting for all the gym leaders to be announced, so probably won't be added until the games are released. --[[User:S2daam|S2daam]] 11:14, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

==Should we?==

Shouldn't we add the the lower template to the page? It is a trainer class, after all. It only seems right that we do. '''''[[User talk:Master of Illusions: Z|~ Master of Illusion: Z]]''''' [[File:SpriteMusharna.png|50px]] '''''[[User:Master of Illusions: Z|User page]]''''' 13:24, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

==Isshu Gym Leaders==
An image with the new [http://www.dotup.org/uploda/www.dotup.org1147743.jpg gym leaders popped up] [[User:Vienna Waltz|Vienna Waltz]] 20:17, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
:And accordingly, users have put them in their userspaces. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 20:20, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
::And why is the Icicle badge under the Isshu gym leader template?[[User:Patrickmck|Patrickmck]] 00:30, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Ice Path

2010-09-14T02:08:43Z

Patrickmck: /* B2F */

{{incomplete}}
{{Infobox location
|image=HGSS Ice Cave-{{#switch: {{#time: G}}|4|5|6|7|8|9=Morning|10|11|12|13|14|15|16=Day|17|18|19=Evening|20|21|22|23|0|1|2|3=Night}}.png
|type=snow
|location_name=Ice Path
|japanese_name=こおりのぬけみち
|translated_name=Ice Loophole
|location=Between {{rt|44|Johto}} and [[Blackthorn City]]
|region=Johto
|generation={{Gen|II}}, {{Gen|IV}}
|[[File:Ice Path map.gif]]
|map=MapDen.gif
}}
The '''Ice Path''' (Japanese: '''こおりのぬけみち''' ''Ice Loophole'') is a four-floored cave located in the [[Johto]] region that connects {{rt|44|Johto}} with [[Blackthorn City]]. It is known for its numerous ice puzzles, which vary in size and difficulty. One example is a strength puzzle, involving pushing boulders into holes in order to progress. It is the only place in [[Johto]] where {{pkmn2|wild}} {{p|Swinub}}, {{p|Jynx}} and {{p|Delibird}} can be caught.

==Items==
{{itlisth|snow}}
{{itlistbod|HM Water|1F|GSCHGSS|display={{HM|07|Waterfall}}}}
{{itlistbod|Iron|B1F bottom|GSCHGSS}}
{{itlistbod|PP Up|1F bottom|GSCHGSS}}
{{itlistbod|Max Potion|Two (one hidden in B1F bottom)|GSCHGSS}}
{{itlistbod|Full Heal|B2F Center|GSCHGSS}}
{{itlistbod|NeverMeltIce|B3F Bottom Left (Below the Smashable Rock)|GSCHGSS}}
{{itlistbod|Ice Heal|B2F right side (hidden)|GSC}}
{{itlistbod|TM Psychic|B2F Bottom Right|GSC|display={{TM|44|Rest}}}}
{{itlistbod|TM Ice||HGSS|display={{TM|72|Avalanche}}}}
{{itlistbod|Carbos|B2F left side (hidden)|GSCHGSS}}
{{itlistbod|Green Shard|B4F (Rock Smash)|HGSS}}
{{itlistbod|Revive|Exactly two steps right after picking up Iron (hidden in 1F bottom)|HGSS}}
{{itlistfoot|snow}}

==Pokémon==
===Generation II===
====1F====
{{catch/header|snow}}
{{catch/entry2|041|Zubat|yes|no|no|Cave||25%|20%|25%|type1=Poison|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry2|041|Zubat|no|yes|no|Cave||5%|0%|5%|type1=Poison|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry2|041|Zubat|no|no|yes|Cave|22|all=30%|type1=Poison|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry2|042|Golbat|yes|yes|yes|Cave|22-24|all=30%|type1=Poison|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry2|220|Swinub|yes|yes|no|Cave||all=40%|type1=Ice|type2=Ground}}
{{catch/entry2|220|Swinub|no|no|yes|Cave|21-23|40%|40%|0%|type1=Ice|type2=Ground}}
{{catch/entry2|225|Delibird|no|yes|no|Cave||all=20%|type1=Ice|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry2|225|Delibird|no|no|yes|Cave|21-23|0%|0%|40%}|type1=Ice|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry2|124|Jynx|yes|yes|no|Cave||5%|10%|5%|type1=Ice|type2=Psychic}}
{{catch/entry2|124|Jynx|no|no|yes|Cave||1%|1%|0%|type1=Ice|type2=Psychic}}
{{catch/footer|snow}}

====B1F====
{{catch/header|snow}}
{{catch/entry2|041|Zubat|yes|no|no|Cave||25%|20%|25%|type1=Poison|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry2|041|Zubat|no|yes|no|Cave||5%|0%|5%|type1=Poison|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry2|041|Zubat|no|no|yes|Cave|23|all=30%|type1=Poison|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry2|042|Golbat|yes|yes|no|Cave||all=30%|type1=Poison|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry2|042|Golbat|no|no|yes|Cave|23-25|all=29%|type1=Poison|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry2|220|Swinub|yes|yes|no|Cave||all=40%|type1=Ice|type2=Ground}}
{{catch/entry2|220|Swinub|no|no|yes|Cave|22|40%|40%|0%|type1=Ice|type2=Ground}}
{{catch/entry2|225|Delibird|no|yes|no|Cave||all=20%|type1=Ice|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry2|225|Delibird|no|no|yes|Cave|22-24|0%|0%|40%|type1=Ice|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry2|124|Jynx|yes|yes|no|Cave||5%|10%|5%|type1=Ice|type2=Psychic}}
{{catch/entry2|124|Jynx|no|no|yes|Cave||1%|1%|0%|type1=Ice|type2=Psychic}}
{{catch/entry2|215|Sneasel|no|no|yes|Cave||0%|0%|1%|type1=Dark|type2=Ice}}
{{catch/footer|snow}}

====B2F====
{{catch/header|snow}}
{{catch/entry2|041|Zubat|yes|no|no|Cave||25%|20%|25%|type1=Poison|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry2|041|Zubat|no|yes|no|Cave||5%|0%|5%|type1=Poison|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry2|041|Zubat|no|no|yes|Cave|24|all=30%|type1=Poison|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry2|042|Golbat|yes|yes|no|Cave||all=30%|type1=Poison|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry2|042|Golbat|no|no|yes|Cave|24-26|all=25%|type1=Poison|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry2|220|Swinub|yes|yes|no|Cave||all=40%|type1=Ice|type2=Ground}}
{{catch/entry2|220|Swinub|no|no|yes|Cave|23-25|40%|40%|0%|type1=Ice|type2=Ground}}
{{catch/entry2|225|Delibird|no|yes|no|Cave||all=20%|type1=Ice|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry2|225|Delibird|no|no|yes|Cave|23-25|0%|0%|40%|type1=Ice|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry2|124|Jynx|yes|yes|yes|Cave|22|5%|{{tt|10%|0% in Pokémon Crystal}}|{{tt|5%|0% in Pokémon Crystal}}|type1=Ice|type2=Psychic}}
{{catch/entry2|215|Sneasel|no|no|yes|Cave|22|0%|0%|5%|type1=Dark|type2=Ice}}
{{catch/footer|snow}}

====B3F====
{{catch/header|snow}}
{{catch/entry2|041|Zubat|yes|no|no|Cave||25%|20%|25%|type1=Poison|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry2|041|Zubat|no|yes|no|Cave| |5%|0%|0%|type1=Poison|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry2|041|Zubat|no|no|yes|Cave|25|all=30%|type1=Poison|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry2|042|Golbat|yes|yes|no|Cave||all=30%|type1=Poison|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry2|042|Golbat|no|no|yes|Cave|25|all=20%|type1=Poison|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry2|220|Swinub|yes|yes|no|Cave||all=40%|type1=Ice|type2=Ground}}
{{catch/entry2|220|Swinub|no|no|yes|Cave|24-26|35%|40%|0%|type1=Ice|type2=Ground}}
{{catch/entry2|225|Delibird|no|yes|no|Cave||all=20%|type1=Ice|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry2|225|Delibird|no|no|yes|Cave|24-26|0%|0%|40%|type1=Ice|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry2|124|Jynx|yes|yes|yes|Cave|22|5%|{{tt|10%|0% in Pokémon Crystal}}|{{tt|5%|0% in Pokémon Crystal}}|type1=Ice|type2=Psychic}}
{{catch/entry2|215|Sneasel|no|no|yes|Cave|22-24|0%|0%|10%|type1=Dark|type2=Ice}}
{{catch/footer|snow}}

===Generation IV===
====1F====
{{catch/header|snow}}
{{catch/entryhs|041|Zubat|yes|no|Cave|22|25%|20%|25%|type1=Poison|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entryhs|041|Zubat|no|yes|Cave|22|5%|20%|5%|type1=Poison|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entryhs|042|Golbat|yes|yes|Cave|22|all=30%|type1=Poison|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entryhs|124|Jynx|yes|yes|Cave|22|5%|10%|5%|type1=Ice|type2=Psychic}}
{{catch/entryhs|220|Swinub|yes|yes|Cave|21-23|all=40%|type1=Ice|type2=Ground}}
{{catch/entryhs|225|Delibird|no|yes|Cave|22|all=20%|type1=Ice|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/div|snow|Special}}
{{catch/entryhs|296|Makuhita|yes|yes|Hoenn|Unknown|all=Unknown|type1=Fighting}}
{{catch/entryhs|359|Absol|yes|yes|Hoenn|Unknown|all=Unknown|type1=Dark}}
{{catch/entryhs|433|Chingling|yes|yes|Sinnoh|Unknown|all=Unknown|type1=Psychic}}
{{catch/entryhs|436|Bronzor|yes|yes|Sinnoh|Unknown|all=Unknown|type1=Steel|type2=Psychic}}
{{catch/footer|snow}}

====B1F====
{{catch/header|snow}}
{{catch/entryhs|041|Zubat|yes|no|Cave|22|25%|20%|25%|type1=Poison|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entryhs|041|Zubat|no|yes|Cave|22|5%|20%|5%|type1=Poison|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entryhs|042|Golbat|yes|yes|Cave|22|all=30%|type1=Poison|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entryhs|124|Jynx|yes|yes|Cave|22|5%|10%|5%|type1=Ice|type2=Psychic}}
{{catch/entryhs|220|Swinub|yes|yes|Cave|21-23|all=40%|type1=Ice|type2=Ground}}
{{catch/entryhs|225|Delibird|no|yes|Cave|22|all=20%|type1=Ice|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/div|snow|Special}}
{{catch/entryhs|296|Makuhita|yes|yes|Hoenn|Unknown|all=Unknown|type1=Fighting}}
{{catch/entryhs|359|Absol|yes|yes|Hoenn|Unknown|all=Unknown|type1=Dark}}
{{catch/entryhs|433|Chingling|yes|yes|Sinnoh|Unknown|all=Unknown|type1=Psychic}}
{{catch/entryhs|436|Bronzor|yes|yes|Sinnoh|Unknown|all=Unknown|type1=Steel|type2=Psychic}}
{{catch/footer|snow}}

====B2F====
{{catch/header|snow}}
{{catch/entryhs|041|Zubat|yes|no|Cave|22|25%|20%|25%|type1=Poison|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entryhs|041|Zubat|no|yes|Cave|22|5%|20%|5%|type1=Poison|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entryhs|042|Golbat|yes|yes|Cave|22|all=30%|type1=Poison|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entryhs|124|Jynx|yes|yes|Cave|22|5%|10%|5%|type1=Ice|type2=Psychic}}
{{catch/entryhs|220|Swinub|yes|yes|Cave|21-23|all=40%|type1=Ice|type2=Ground}}
{{catch/entryhs|225|Delibird|no|yes|Cave|22-23|all=20%|type1=Ice|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/footer|snow}}

====B3F====
{{catch/header|snow}}
{{catch/entryhs|041|Zubat|yes|no|Cave|22|25%|20%|25%|type1=Poison|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entryhs|041|Zubat|no|yes|Cave|22|5%|20%|5%|type1=Poison|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entryhs|042|Golbat|yes|yes|Cave|22|all=30%|type1=Poison|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entryhs|124|Jynx|yes|yes|Cave|22|5%|10%|5%|type1=Ice|type2=Psychic}}
{{catch/entryhs|220|Swinub|yes|yes|Cave|21-23|all=40%|type1=Ice|type2=Ground}}
{{catch/entryhs|225|Delibird|no|yes|Cave|22|all=20%|type1=Ice|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/footer|snow}}

==Layout==
{| align="center" style="background: #000; -moz-border-radius: 10px; border: 5px solid #{{ice color}}"
|-
! style="background:#{{ice color light}}; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 5px;" | Version
! style="background:#{{ice color light}}" | 1F
! style="background:#{{ice color light}}" | B1F
! style="background:#{{ice color light}}" | B2F
! style="background:#{{ice color light}}; -moz-border-radius-topright: 5px;" | B3F
|- style="background:#000"
! style="background:#{{gold color}}" | {{color2|000|Pokémon Gold and Silver Versions|Gold}}
| rowspan="2" | [[Image:icepathgs1.png|180px]]
| rowspan="2" | [[Image:icepathgs2.png|90px]]
| rowspan="2" | [[Image:icepathgs3.png‎|180px]][[Image:icepathgs3-2.png|90px]]
| rowspan="2" | [[Image:icepathgs4.png|180px]]
|-
! style="background:#{{silver color}}" | {{color2|000|Pokémon Gold and Silver Versions|Silver}}
|-
! style="background:#{{crystal color}}" | {{color2|000|Pokémon Crystal Version|Crystal}}
|[[Image:icepathc1.png|180px]]
|[[Image:icepathc2.png|90px]]
|[[Image:icepathc3.png|180px]][[Image:icepathc3-2.png|90px]]
|[[Image:icepathc4.PNG|180px]]
|-
| colspan="5" style="background:#{{ice color light}}; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft: 5px; -moz-border-radius-bottomright: 5px;" |  
|}

==Eyecatch==
<gallery>
File:HGSS Ice Cave-Morning.png|Morning (Zubat)
File:HGSS Ice Cave-Day.png|Day/Evening (Swinub)
File:HGSS Ice Cave-Night.png|Night (Jynx)
</gallery>

==Trivia==
*In {{game|Gold and Silver|s}}, the Ice Path looked like an average cave. However, in {{game|Crystal}}, its tileset was changed to make it look more ice-like. The icy design remains in Generation IV's remakes. Some of the puzzles were also redesigned for {{game|Crystal}}.

==In other languages==
* '''Italian:''' ''Via Gelata''
* '''Spanish:''' ''Ruta Helada''
* '''German:''' ''Eispfad''
* '''French:''' ''Route de glace'' (Ice Road)

{{Johto}}
{{Project Locations notice}}
[[Category:Johto locations]]
[[Category:Gold, Silver and Crystal locations]]
[[Category:HeartGold and SoulSilver locations]]
[[Category:Caves]]
[[Category:Paths]]

[[de:Eispfad]]
[[fr:Route de glace]]
[[ja:こおりのぬけみち]]

Johto Route 35

2010-09-13T21:13:03Z

Patrickmck: Battled a Psyduck that was at level 11.

{{Route infobox
|number=35
|size=250
|image=Route 35.png
|imageII=Route 35.png
|type=land
|north=National Park
|south=Goldenrod City
|east=Route 36
|regioneast=Johto
|west=Pokéathlon Dome
|region=Johto
|cut=yes
|surf=yes
|generation=2
}}

'''Route 35''' lies just north of [[Goldenrod City]], leading straight from there to Johto's famous [[National Park]], home of the [[Bug Catching Contest]].

==Route description==
The route is a relatively short route, leading the player in an S-like curve, around a small body of water, and north to the southern entrance to the National Park. At the lookout station leading from Goldenrod, a guard named [[Webster (Johto)|Webster]] will give the player a {{p|Spearow}} with [[Mail]] attached to deliver to his friend.

==Items==
{{Itlisth}}
{{Itlistbod|TM Rock|Southern part of the grass patch.|GSC|display={{TM|04|Rollout}}}}
{{Itlistbod|none|Across the small pond ({{HM|03|Surf}} needed).|GSC|display={{DL|Berries (Generation II)|MysteryBerry}}}}
{{Itlistbod|Parlyz Heal|East of [[Juggler]] Irwin, surrounded by trees.|HGSS|display={{DL|Status ailment healing item|Parlyz Heal}}}}
{{Itlistbod|TM Dark|Southern part of the grass patch.|HGSS|display={{TM|66|Payback}}}}
{{Itlistbod|Grn Apricorn|Across the small pond ({{HM|03|Surf}} needed).|HGSS|display={{DL|Apricorn|Grn Apricorn}}}}
{{Itlistbod|Nugget|Across the small pond ({{HM|03|Surf}} needed) (''Hidden'').|HGSS|display={{DL|Valuable item|Nugget}}}}
{{Itlistfoot}}

==Pokémon==
===[[Generation II]]===
{{Catch/header|land|yes}}
{{catch/entry2|029|Nidoran♀|yes|yes|no|Grass|12|all=30%|type1=Poison}}
{{catch/entry2|032|Nidoran♂|yes|yes|no|Grass|12|all=30%|type1=Poison}}
{{catch/entry2|039|Jigglypuff|no|no|yes|Grass|12|all=5%|type1=Normal}}
{{catch/entry2|063|Abra|yes|yes|yes|Grass|10|all=10%|type1=Psychic}}
{{catch/entry2|132|Ditto|yes|yes|yes|Grass|10|all=4%|type1=Normal}}
{{catch/entry2|193|Yanma|yes|yes|yes|Grass|12|all=1%|type1=Bug|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry2|096|Drowzee|yes|yes|no|Grass|14|all=20%|type1=Psychic}}
{{catch/entry2|096|Drowzee|no|no|yes|Grass|12|0%|0%|30%|type1=Psychic}}
{{catch/entry2|016|Pidgey|yes|yes|no|Grass|14|5%|5%|0%|type1=Normal|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry2|016|Pidgey|no|no|yes|Grass|14|30%|30%|0%|type1=Normal|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry2|058|Growlithe|no|no|yes|Grass|13|20%|20%|0%|type1=Fire}}
{{catch/entry2|209|Snubbull|no|no|yes|Grass|12|30%|30%|0%|type1=Normal}}
{{catch/entry2|054|Psyduck|no|no|yes|Grass|13|0%|0%|20%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entry2|163|Hoothoot|yes|yes|no|Grass|14|0%|0%|5%|type1=Normal|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry2|163|Hoothoot|no|no|yes|Grass|14|0%|0%|30%|type1=Normal|type2=Flying}}
{{Catch/div|water|Fish}}
{{catch/entry2|054|Psyduck|yes|yes|yes|Surf|15-24|all=90%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entry2|055|Golduck|yes|yes|yes|Surf|20-24|all=10%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entry2|060|Poliwag|yes|yes|yes|Fish Old|10|all=15%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entry2|129|Magikarp|yes|yes|yes|Fish Old|10|all=85%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entry2|060|Poliwag|yes|yes|yes|Fish Good|20|all=65%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entry2|129|Magikarp|yes|yes|yes|Fish Good|20|all=35%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entry2|060|Poliwag|yes|yes|yes|Fish Super|40|all=80%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entry2|129|Magikarp|yes|yes|yes|Fish Super|40|all=20%|type1=Water}}
{{Catch/footer|land}}

===[[Generation IV]]===
{{Catch/header|land|yes}}
{{catch/entryhs|029|Nidoran♀|yes|yes|Grass|12|all=30%|type1=Poison}}
{{catch/entryhs|032|Nidoran♂|yes|yes|Grass|12|all=30%|type1=Poison}}
{{catch/entryhs|063|Abra|yes|yes|Grass|10|all=10%|type1=Psychic}}
{{catch/entryhs|096|Drowzee|yes|yes|Grass|14|all=20%|type1=Psychic}}
{{catch/entryhs|132|Ditto|yes|yes|Grass|10|all=4%|type1=Normal}}
{{catch/entryhs|193|Yanma|yes|yes|Grass|12|all=1%|type1=Bug|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entryhs|016|Pidgey|yes|yes|Grass|14|5%|5%|0%|type1=Normal|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entryhs|163|Hoothoot|yes|yes|Grass|14|0%|0%|5%|type1=Normal|type2=Flying}}
{{Catch/div|water|Fish}}
{{catch/entryhs|054|Psyduck|yes|yes|Surf|11-25|all=90%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entryhs|055|Golduck|yes|yes|Surf|20-25|all=10%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entryhs|060|Poliwag|yes|yes|Fish Old|10|all=15%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entryhs|129|Magikarp|yes|yes|Fish Old|10|all=85%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entryhs|060|Poliwag|yes|yes|Fish Good|20|all=65%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entryhs|129|Magikarp|yes|yes|Fish Good|20|all=35%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entryhs|060|Poliwag|yes|yes|Fish Super|40|all=80%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entryhs|129|Magikarp|yes|yes|Fish Super|40|all=20%|type1=Water}}
{{Catch/footer|land}}

==Trainers==
===Generation II===
{{trainerheader}}
{{Trainerentry|GSC_Picnicker.png|Picnicker|Kim|300|1|037|Vulpix|♀|15|None|36=カナミ|37=Kanami}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|GSC_Camper.png|Camper|Elliot|300|2|027|Sandshrew|♂|13|None|183|Marill|♂|15|None|36=アキヒロ|37=Akihiro}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|GSC_Picnicker.png|Picnicker|Brooke|320|1|025|Pikachu|♀|16|None|36=イクエ|37=Ikue}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|GSC_Camper.png|Camper|Ivan|280|3|050|Diglett|♂|10|None|041|Zubat|♂|10|None|050|Diglett|♂|14|None|36=カズヤ|37=Kazuya}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|GSC_Juggler.png|Juggler|Irwin|560|4|100|Voltorb||2|None|100|Voltorb||6|None|100|Voltorb||10|None|100|Voltorb||14|None|36=マイク|37=Mike|38=phone}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|GSC_FireBreather.png|Firebreather|Walt|624|2|126|Magmar|♂|11|None|126|Magmar|♂|13|None|36=トシハル|37=Toshiharu}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|GSC_Officer.png|Officer|Dirk ([[Time#Times_of_day|Night]] only)|560|2|058|Growlithe|♂|14|None|058|Growlithe|♂|14|None|36=シンイチ|37=Shin'ichi}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|GSC_BugCatcher.png|Bug Catcher|Arnie|240|1|048|Venonat|♂|15|None|36=ヨウタ|37=Yōta|38=phone}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|GSC_BirdKeeper.png|Bird Keeper|Bryan|336|2|016|Pidgey|♂|12|None|017|Pidgeotto|♂|14|None|36=ヨシキ|37=Yoshiki}}
{{Trainerfooter|land|II}}

===Generation IV===
{{trainerheader}}
{{Trainerentry|DP Picnicker.png|Picnicker|Kim|240|1|037|Vulpix|♀|15|None|36=カナミ|37=Kanami}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|DP Camper.png|Camper|Elliot|240|2|027|Sandshrew|♂|13|None|183|Marill|♂|15|None|36=アキヒロ|37=Akihiro}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|DP Picnicker.png|Picnicker|Brooke|256|1|025|Pikachu|♀|16|None|36=イクエ|37=Ikue}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|DP Camper.png|Camper|Ivan|224|3|050|Diglett|♂|10|None|041|Zubat|♂|10|None|050|Diglett|♂|14|None|36=カズヤ|37=Kazuya}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|HGSS Juggler.png|Juggler|Irwin|448|4|100|Voltorb||2|None|100|Voltorb||6|None|100|Voltorb||10|None|100|Voltorb||14|None|36=マイク|37=Mike|38=phone}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|HGSS Firebreather.png|Firebreather|Walt|512|2|126|Magmar|♂|11|None|126|Magmar|♂|16|None|36=トシハル|37=Toshiharu|38=phone}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|DP Officer.png|Policeman|Dirk ([[Time#Times_of_day|Night]] only)|560|2|058|Growlithe|♂|14|None|058|Growlithe|♂|14|None|36=シンイチ|37=Shin'ichi}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|HGSS Bug Catcher.png|Bug Catcher|Arnie|240|1|048|Venonat|♂|15|None|36=ヨウタ|37=Yōta|38=phone}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|HGSS Bird Keeper.png|Bird Keeper|Bryan|448|2|016|Pidgey|♂|12|None|017|Pidgeotto|♂|14|None|36=ヨシキ|37=Yoshiki}}
{{Trainerfooter|land|II}}

==Trainer Tips==
*Use {{m|Dig}} to return to the entrance of any place. It is convenient for exploring caves and other landmarks.

==Trivia==
* Picnicker Brooke's Japanese name is イクエ ''Ikue'' and her only Pokémon is {{p|Pikachu}}. This may be a reference [[Ikue Ohtani]], the {{pkmn|anime}} voice actress of [[Ash's Pikachu]].
* Upon defeat, [[Juggler]] Irwin exclaims, "Oops, dropped my balls!" The innuendo became an infamous quote in the Pokémon fandom.
* This route was seen as one of the first [[Pokémon Gold and Silver beta|pre-release pictures]] of {{game|Gold and Silver|s}}. It depicts a simplified version of Route 35 and the [[National Park]]'s southern entrance, except with water instead of trees and fences and no open path to the right.

<gallery>
File:1997 GS 04.gif|Pre-release picture
File:Route35GS.png|Final cut
</gallery>

{{Johto}}
{{Project Routes}}

[[Category:Johto locations|Route 035]]
[[Category:Routes|Route 035]]
[[Category:Gold, Silver and Crystal locations|Route 035]]
[[Category:HeartGold and SoulSilver locations|Route 035]]

[[de:Route 35]]
[[es:Ruta 35 (Johto)]]
[[fr:Route 35]]
[[ja:35ばんどうろ]]

Talk:Victory Road (Kanto)

2010-09-09T21:27:01Z

Patrickmck: /* HGSS Cave Pokemon - 90%?? */

== Repels ==
Do repels work in victory road? My brother is playing fire red and he says his repels aren't working [[user:mr.lol|Dean]]

:Are his levels lower than that found in victory? Repel only works if the lead Pokémon's level is higher than those found in the area. {{ani|493}}'''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|Optimus35, to be exact...>.>;;;</nowiki>">Optimatum]]</sc>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]{{{1|00:58 2 Mar 2008}}}'''

==Burn Heal?==

In the trivia it says in Generation III a Burn heal can be found where moltes was standing in generation I. This is not true I just picked up a Guard Spec. there NOT a burn heal. Also nothing appears on the itemfinder so there doesn't seem to be one hidden either... -- [[User:D558|D558]] 21:41, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
:So... change it? — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 23:18, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

==Redirect?==
I know it's not technically true, but could we perhaps set "Victory Road (Johto)" to redirect to this page? While it's technically in Kanto, it serves as the Victory Road for Trainers from Johto wanting to challenge the Pokémon League. On a side note, it would also stop some noob from making a "Victory Road (Johto)" page without realising. [[User:Lucadan|'''''Lucadan''''']] [[User talk:Lucadan|'''''(Talk)''''']] 20:15, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

:That actually does sound like a good idea. [[User:0 Degrees|0]][[User talk:0 Degrees|°]] 22:03, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

== HGSS Cave Pokemon - 90%?? ==

In the table containing the list of wild Pokemon for HG/SS, the list of percentages for pokemon listed as 'cave' only adds up to 90%
(30%+30%+15%+10%+5%)
This can't be right can it, or am I missing something?
[[User:DarthCrap|DarthCrap]] 16:56, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

==Three Floors?==

Are the rates and levels for the pokemon the same for all three floors? [[User:Patrickmck|Patrickmck]] 21:27, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Victory Road (Kanto)

2010-09-09T21:22:34Z

Patrickmck:

Talk:Mt. Mortar

2010-08-31T04:33:20Z

Patrickmck: /* New Layout? */

== New Layout? ==
Has the layout changed at all? If so any screenshots? {{unsigned|Atomic Boom22}}
:You do need Rock Climb to access some of the layout.[[User:Patrickmck|Patrickmck]] 04:33, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

==Super Nerd==

In HeartGold/ SoulSilver, there's a Supernerd with a level 19 slowpoke fairly early in who's name i missed, and a trainer just in on the Mahogany side who's name and pokemon i forgot to note down. Anyone know any of this before i go make an article on them?
:The second pokemon was a Seadra with Waterfall. The Slowpoke had Strength. --[[User:PLA|PLA]] 09:44, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
::The only trainers i've managed to encounter in Mt.Mortar is Super Nerd Markus which had a lvl 17 male slowpoke knowing curse. Also Pokemaniac Harris with a lvl 17 nidoking and lvl 17 nidoqueen who gave away $1088. I would've edited them in already but only just found the file with the details and still trying to figure out how to set up trainers --[[User:Parallel|Parallel]]
:::Besides the Karate King, I only found three other Trainers in the cave. I don't know about any attacks, but this is what their teams looked like:

{{trainerheader|cave}}
{{Trainerentry|HGSS_PokeManiac.png|Poké Maniac|Harrison|1088|2|034|Nidoking|♂|17|None|031|Nidoqueen|♀|17|None}}
{{Trainerdiv|cave}}
{{Trainerentry|HGSS_Super_Nerd.png|Super Nerd|Markus|912|1|079|Slowpoke|♂|19|None}}
{{Trainerdiv|cave}}
{{Trainerentry|HGSS_Super_Nerd.png|Super Nerd|Hugh|1872|1|117|Seadra|♂|39|None}}
{{Trainerdiv|cave}}
{{Trainerfooter|cave|II}}

Hope that helps. — [[User:KCorp4000|K]][[User Talk:KCorp4000|C]] 16:41, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Goldenrod Tunnel

2010-08-30T20:18:29Z

Patrickmck: /* Intro */

{{Infobox location
|image=Underground_Path.png
|type=road
|location_name=Goldenrod Tunnel
|japanese_name=コガネちかつうろ
|translated_name=Kogane Tunnel
|location=Downtown [[Goldenrod City]]
|region=Johto
|map=MapGolden.gif
|generation={{gen|II}}, {{gen|IV}}
}}
The '''Goldenrod Tunnel''' (Japanese: '''コガネちかつうろ''' ''Kogane Tunnel''), known as '''Goldenrod Underground''' or '''Underground Path''' prior to [[Generation IV]], is a shopping district stretching below [[Goldenrod City]]. This path contains a [[Haircut brothers|barber shop]], [[Herb Shop]], and a shop selling [[valuable item]]s; however, the shops that are open at any given time depend on the [[days of the week]], and in some cases, [[time]]. Trainers also litter this path, and there is an entrance to the basement of the [[Goldenrod Department Store]], initially occupied by [[Team Rocket]]. After the {{DL|List of key items in Generation II|Basement Key}} has been obtained, the player will be able to pass through the locked door. Here, a series of switches colored Red, Blue and Green (labeled "SWITCH 1", "SWITCH 2", and "SWITCH 3" in [[Generation II]]). In order to get through the maze, the switches must be turned on in a sequence. While turning them on, pronounced panels of the walls will disappear. Once getting through the maze, there is another switch which is colored purple (labeled "EMERGENCY" in Generation II). This switch causes all wall which are changed by the switches to disappear.

In Generation, IV the enternice to the basement has moved further down the tunnel. In its place is where you may have your photo taken, dressed up as a member of Team Rocket, and your party in it. After you return to Goldenrod City it's used to give out uniforms to new Team Rocket members. They have to use it since they ran out of uniforms.

==Shops==
{| align="center" style="-moz-border-radius: 10px; border: 2px solid #{{crystal color}}; background: #{{silver color}};"
! style="-moz-border-radius-topleft: 5px; background: #{{gold color light}}" | Day
! style="background: #{{gold color light}}" | Shops open
! style="-moz-border-radius-topright: 5px; background: #{{gold color light}}" | Notes
|- align="center" style="background:#{{#ifexpr: {{#time: w}} = 0|FF9999|FFFFFF}};"
| rowspan="2" | {{DL|Days of the week|Sunday}} || Barber Shop || Younger haircut brother
|- align="center" style="background:#{{#ifexpr: {{#time: w}} = 0|FF9999|FFFFFF}};"
|| [[Herb Shop]] ||
|- align="center" style="background:#{{#ifexpr: {{#time: w}} = 1|{{#switch: {{#time: G}}|4|5|6|7|8|9=FF9999|C0C0C0}}|FFFFFF}};"
| {{DL|Days of the week|Monday}} || {{DL|Valuable item|Bargain Shop}} || Only open during the [[Time|morning]]
|- align="center" style="background:#{{#ifexpr: {{#time: w}} = 2|FF9999|FFFFFF}};"
| {{DL|Days of the week|Tuesday}} || Barber Shop || Older haircut brother
|- align="center" style="background:#{{#ifexpr: {{#time: w}} = 3|FF9999|FFFFFF}};"
| {{DL|Days of the week|Wednesday}} || Barber Shop || Younger haircut brother
|- align="center" style="background:#{{#ifexpr: {{#time: w}} = 4|FF9999|FFFFFF}};"
| {{DL|Days of the week|Thursday}} || Barber Shop || Older haircut brother
|- align="center" style="background:#{{#ifexpr: {{#time: w}} = 5|FF9999|FFFFFF}};"
| {{DL|Days of the week|Friday}} || Barber Shop || Younger haircut brother
|- align="center" style="background:#{{#ifexpr: {{#time: w}} = 6|FF9999|FFFFFF}};"
| rowspan=2 | {{DL|Days of the week|Saturday}} ||Barber Shop || Older haircut brother
|- align="center" style="background:#{{#ifexpr: {{#time: w}} = 6|FF9999|FFFFFF}};"
|| [[Herb Shop]] ||
|}
 

==Items==
{{Itlisth|road}}
{{Itlistbod|Coin Case|South of the three shops|GSC|II}}
{{Itlistbod|Parlyz Heal|Hidden|GSC|II}}
{{Itlistbod|Super Potion|Hidden|GSC|II}}
{{Itlistbod|Antidote|Hidden near basement door|GSC|II}}
{{Itlistbod|Full Heal|North part of the basement|HGSS|IV}}
{{Itlistbod|Smoke Ball|Southwestern corner of the basement|HGSS|IV}}
{{Itlistbod|Ultra Ball|West part of the box room|HGSS|IV}}
{{Itlistbod|Max Ether|Southeastern corner of the box room|HGSS|IV}}
{{Itlistbod|TM Normal|Next to Radio Tower President|HGSS|IV|display={{TM|82|Sleep Talk}}}}
{{Itlistbod|Coin Case|South part of the basement{{tt|*|Japanese versions only}}|HGSS|IV}}
{{Itlistfoot|road}}

==Trainers==
===Generation II===
{{trainerheader|road}}
{{Trainerentry|GSC_PokeManiac.png|PokéManiac|Donald|600|2|079|Slowpoke||10|None|079|Slowpoke||10|None}}
{{Trainerdiv|road}}
{{Trainerentry|GSC_SuperNerd.png|Super Nerd|Teru|288|4|081|Magnemite||7|None|100|Voltorb||11|None|081|Magnemite||7|None|081|Magnemite||9|None}}
{{Trainerdiv|road}}
{{Trainerentry|GSC_PokeManiac.png|PokéManiac|Isaac|720|1|108|Lickitung|♂|12|None}}
{{Trainerdiv|road}}
{{Trainerentry|GSC_SuperNerd.png|Super Nerd|Eric|352|2|088|Grimer|♂|11|None|088|Grimer|♂|11|None}}
{{Trainerdiv|road}}
{{Trainerentry|GSC_Burglar.png|Burglar|Eddie|2112|2|058|Growlithe||26|None|109|Koffing||24|None}}
{{Trainerdiv|road}}
{{Trainerentry|GSC_Burglar.png|Burglar|Duncan|2024
|3|109|Koffing||23|None|126|Magmar||25|None|109|Koffing||23|None}}
{{trainerfooter|road|2}}

===Generation IV===
{{trainerheader|road}}
{{Trainerentry|HGSS PokeManiac.png|PokéManiac|Donald|704|2|079|Slowpoke|♂|11|None|079|Slowpoke|♂|11|None|36=ヒロアキ|37=Hiroaki}}
{{Trainerdiv|road}}
{{Trainerentry|HGSS Super Nerd.png|Super Nerd|Teru|432|4|081|Magnemite||7|None|100|Voltorb||11|None|081|Magnemite||7|None|081|Magnemite||9|None|36=テルキ|37=Teruki}}
{{Trainerdiv|road}}
{{Trainerentry|HGSS PokeManiac.png|PokéManiac|Issac|768|1|108|Lickitung|♂|12|None|36=マサシ|37=Masashi}}
{{Trainerdiv|road}}
{{Trainerentry|HGSS_Super Nerd.png|Super Nerd|Eric|528|2|088|Grimer|♂|11|None|088|Grimer|♂|11|None|36=カズヒト|37=Kazuhito}}
{{trainerfooter|road|2}}

====After getting the Basement Key====
{{trainerheader|road}}
{{Trainerentry|HGSS Rocket Grunt M.png|Rocket Grunt||1080|1|019|Rattata|♂|27|None}}
{{Trainerdiv|road}}
{{Trainerentry|HGSS Rocket Grunt M.png|Rocket Grunt||1000|3|089|Muk|♂|23|None|109|Koffing|♂|23|None|019|Rattata|♂|25|None}}
{{Trainerdiv|road}}
{{Trainerentry|HGSS Burglar.png|Burglar|Duncan|368|3|109|Koffing|♂|23|None|109|Koffing|♂|23|None|126|Magmar|♂|25|None|36=ヤスジ|37=Yasuji}}
{{Trainerdiv|road}}
{{Trainerentry|HGSS Burglar.png|Burglar|Orson|384|2|058|Growlithe|♂|26|None|109|Koffing|♂|24|None|36=ゴロゾー|37=Gorozō}}
{{Trainerdiv|road}}
{{Trainerentry|HGSS Rocket Grunt M.png|Rocket Grunt||960|2|109|Koffing|♂|24|None|089|Muk|♂|24|None}}
{{Trainerdiv|road}}
{{Trainerentry|HGSS Rocket Grunt F.png|Rocket Grunt||1000|2|044|Gloom|♀|25|None|044|Gloom|♀|25|None}}
{{Trainerdiv|road}}
{{Trainerentry|HGSS Rocket Grunt M.png|Rocket Grunt||960|2|020|Raticate|♂|24|None|042|Golbat|♂|24|None}}
{{Trainerdiv|road}}
{{Trainerentry|HGSS Rocket Grunt M.png|Rocket Grunt||920|2|088|Grimer|♂|26|None|110|Weezing|♂|23|None}}
{{Trainerdiv|road}}
{{Trainerentry|HGSS Rocket Grunt M.png|Rocket Grunt||1000|2|109|Koffing|♂|25|None|109|Koffing|♂|25|None}}
{{trainerfooter|road|2}}

=====Rival=====
If the {{player}} chose {{p|Chikorita}}:
{{party
|color={{silver color}}
|headcolor={{silver color light}}
|bordercolor={{silver color dark}}
|sprite=SilverHGSS.gif
|prize={{pdollar}}2176
|class={{color2|000000|Rival}}
|name={{color2|000000|Silver (game)|Silver}}
|game={{color2|000000|Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions|HeartGold and SoulSilver}}
|location=Goldenrod Tunnel
|pokemon=5
|pokemon1={{Pokémon|gen=4|game=HeartGold and SoulSilver|ndex=042 m|pokemon=Golbat
|gender=male|level=32|type1=Poison|type2=Flying|ability=Inner Focus
|move1=Air Cutter|move1type=Flying|move1cat=Special
|move2=Confuse Ray|move2type=Ghost|move2cat=Status
|move3=Bite|move3type=Dark|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Astonish|move4type=Ghost|move4cat=Physical}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon|gen=4|game=HeartGold and SoulSilver|ndex=093|pokemon=Haunter
|gender=male|level=30|type1=Ghost|type2=Poison|ability=Levitate
|move1=Shadow Ball|move1type=Ghost|move1cat=Special
|move2=Confuse Ray|move2type=Ghost|move2cat=Status
|move3=Mean Look|move3type=Normal|move3cat=Status
|move4=Curse|move4type=???|move4cat=Status}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon|gen=4|game=HeartGold and SoulSilver|ndex=081|pokemon=Magnemite
|gender=none|level=28|type1=Electric|type2=Steel|ability=Magnet Pull
|move1=Thunder Wave|move1type=Electric|move1cat=Status
|move2=Spark|move2type=Electric|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Supersonic|move3type=Normal|move3cat=Status
|move4=SonicBoom|move4type=Normal|move4cat=Special}}
|pokemon4={{Pokémon|gen=4|game=HeartGold and SoulSilver|ndex=215 m|pokemon=Sneasel
|gender=male|level=32|type1=Dark|type2=Ice|ability=Inner Focus
|move1=Faint Attack|move1type=Dark|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Quick Attack|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Icy Wind|move3type=Ice|move3cat=Special
|move4=Fury Swipes|move4type=Normal|move4cat=Physical}}
|pokemon5={{Pokémon|gen=4|game=HeartGold and SoulSilver|ndex=156|pokemon=Quilava
|gender=male|level=32|type1=Fire|ability=Blaze
|move1=SmokeScreen|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Status
|move2=Swift|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Special
|move3=Quick Attack|move3type=Normal|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Flame Wheel|move4type=Fire|move4cat=Physical}}}}

If the {{player}} chose {{p|Cyndaquil}}:
{{party
|color={{silver color}}
|headcolor={{silver color light}}
|bordercolor={{silver color dark}}
|sprite=SilverHGSS.gif
|prize={{pdollar}}2176
|class={{color2|000000|Rival}}
|name={{color2|000000|Silver (game)|Silver}}
|game={{color2|000000|Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions|HeartGold and SoulSilver}}
|location=Goldenrod Tunnel
|pokemon=5
|pokemon1={{Pokémon|gen=4|game=HeartGold and SoulSilver|ndex=042 m|pokemon=Golbat
|gender=male|level=32|type1=Poison|type2=Flying|ability=Inner Focus
|move1=Air Cutter|move1type=Flying|move1cat=Special
|move2=Confuse Ray|move2type=Ghost|move2cat=Status
|move3=Bite|move3type=Dark|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Astonish|move4type=Ghost|move4cat=Physical}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon|gen=4|game=HeartGold and SoulSilver|ndex=093|pokemon=Haunter
|gender=male|level=30|type1=Ghost|type2=Poison|ability=Levitate
|move1=Shadow Ball|move1type=Ghost|move1cat=Special
|move2=Confuse Ray|move2type=Ghost|move2cat=Status
|move3=Mean Look|move3type=Normal|move3cat=Status
|move4=Curse|move4type=???|move4cat=Status}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon|gen=4|game=HeartGold and SoulSilver|ndex=081|pokemon=Magnemite
|gender=none|level=28|type1=Electric|type2=Steel|ability=Magnet Pull
|move1=Thunder Wave|move1type=Electric|move1cat=Status
|move2=Spark|move2type=Electric|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Supersonic|move3type=Normal|move3cat=Status
|move4=SonicBoom|move4type=Normal|move4cat=Special}}
|pokemon4={{Pokémon|gen=4|game=HeartGold and SoulSilver|ndex=215 m|pokemon=Sneasel
|gender=male|level=32|type1=Dark|type2=Ice|ability=Inner Focus
|move1=Faint Attack|move1type=Dark|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Quick Attack|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Icy Wind|move3type=Ice|move3cat=Special
|move4=Fury Swipes|move4type=Normal|move4cat=Physical}}
|pokemon5={{Pokémon|gen=4|game=HeartGold and SoulSilver|ndex=160|pokemon=Feraligatr
|gender=male|level=32|type1=Water|ability=Torrent
|move1=Water Gun|move1type=Water|move1cat=Special
|move2=Ice Fang|move2type=Ice|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Crunch|move3type=Dark|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Thrash|move4type=Normal|move4cat=Physical}}}}

If the {{player}} chose {{p|Totodile}}:
{{party
|color={{silver color}}
|headcolor={{silver color light}}
|bordercolor={{silver color dark}}
|sprite=SilverHGSS.gif
|prize={{pdollar}}2176
|class={{color2|000000|Rival}}
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|location=Goldenrod Tunnel
|pokemon=5
|pokemon1={{Pokémon|gen=4|game=HeartGold and SoulSilver|ndex=042 m|pokemon=Golbat
|gender=male|level=32|type1=Poison|type2=Flying|ability=Inner Focus
|move1=Air Cutter|move1type=Flying|move1cat=Special
|move2=Confuse Ray|move2type=Ghost|move2cat=Status
|move3=Bite|move3type=Dark|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Astonish|move4type=Ghost|move4cat=Physical}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon|gen=4|game=HeartGold and SoulSilver|ndex=093|pokemon=Haunter
|gender=male|level=30|type1=Ghost|type2=Poison|ability=Levitate
|move1=Shadow Ball|move1type=Ghost|move1cat=Special
|move2=Confuse Ray|move2type=Ghost|move2cat=Status
|move3=Mean Look|move3type=Normal|move3cat=Status
|move4=Curse|move4type=???|move4cat=Status}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon|gen=4|game=HeartGold and SoulSilver|ndex=081|pokemon=Magnemite
|gender=none|level=28|type1=Electric|type2=Steel|ability=Magnet Pull
|move1=Thunder Wave|move1type=Electric|move1cat=Status
|move2=Spark|move2type=Electric|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Supersonic|move3type=Normal|move3cat=Status
|move4=SonicBoom|move4type=Normal|move4cat=Special}}
|pokemon4={{Pokémon|gen=4|game=HeartGold and SoulSilver|ndex=215 m|pokemon=Sneasel
|gender=male|level=32|type1=Dark|type2=Ice|ability=Inner Focus
|move1=Faint Attack|move1type=Dark|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Quick Attack|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Icy Wind|move3type=Ice|move3cat=Special
|move4=Fury Swipes|move4type=Normal|move4cat=Physical}}
|pokemon5={{Pokémon|gen=4|game=HeartGold and SoulSilver|ndex=154 m|pokemon=Meganium
|gender=male|level=32|type1=Grass|ability=Overgrow
|move1=Reflect|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Status
|move2=Petal Dance|move2type=Grass|move2cat=Special
|move3=PoisonPowder|move3type=Poison|move3cat=Status
|move4=Synthesis|move4type=Grass|move4cat=Status
}}}}

[[Image:Underground inthe Anime.png|thumb|250px|right|The Goldenrod Tunnel in the anime in ''[[EP158|A Goldenrod Opportunity]]'']]

==In other languages==
* French: '''Souterrain de Doublonville''' ({{tt|Doublonville|Goldenrod}}'s Underground)
* Italian: '''Sotterranei di Fiordoropoli'''

{{Johto}}

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{{Project Locations notice}}
[[Category:Johto locations]]
[[Category:Routes]]
[[Category:Gold, Silver and Crystal locations]]
[[Category:Paths]]
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[[de:Dukatia-Passage]]
[[fr:Souterrain de Doublonville]]
[[ja:ちかつうろ (コガネシティ)]]

Draco Meteor (move)

2010-08-26T18:42:45Z

Patrickmck: /* In the anime */

{{MoveInfobox|
n=434 |
name=Draco Meteor |
jname=りゅうせいぐん |
jtrans=Dragon Meteor Shower|
desc=Comets are summoned down from the sky. The attack's recoil sharply reduces the user's Sp. Atk stat. |
gameimage=DPDraco meteor.PNG |
type=Dragon |
damagecategory=Special |
basepp=5 |
maxpp=8 |
power=140 |
accuracy=90 |
bdesc= |
target=any|
gen=IV |
mtdp=yes |
mtpt=yes |
mths=yes |
na=no|
category=Smart |
appeal=2 |
jam=0 |
cdesc=+3 if previous Pokémon reaches maximum voltage of a judge |
appealsc=2 |
scdesc=Earn +3 if the Pokémon that just went hit max Voltage. |
pokefordex=draco+meteor |
touches=no |
protect=yes |
magiccoat=no |
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brightpowder=yes |
kingsrock=yes |
flag7=no |
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sound=no |
footnotes= }}
'''Draco Meteor''' (Japanese: '''りゅうせいぐん''' ''Dragon Meteor Shower'') is a damage-dealing {{type2|Dragon}} [[move]] introduced in [[Generation IV]].

Draco Meteor can only be tutored to Dragon-type Pokémon. In the [[Sinnoh]] region, you can find the tutor (grandma [[Wilma]]) on {{rt|210|Sinnoh}} in her house, and in [[Johto]], the tutor is in [[Blackthorn City]].

Similar to {{m|Blast Burn}}, {{m|Frenzy Plant}}, and {{m|Hydro Cannon}}, the Pokémon that the move is to be taught to must have a high happiness rating.

==Effect==
Draco Meteor inflicts damage, and lowers the user's Special Attack by two stages afterward, thus making this move along with its variations best used as a last resort.

==Learnset==
===[[Generation IV]]===
====By [[move tutor]]====
=====In {{game5|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}=====
{{Learnlist/TM|Dragon}}
{{Moveentrytm|147|Dratini|1|Dragon||'''}}
{{Moveentrytm|148|Dragonair|1|Dragon||'''}}
{{Moveentrytm|149|Dragonite|2|Dragon|Flying|'''}}
{{Moveentrytm|230|Kingdra|2|Water|Dragon|'''}}
{{Moveentrytm|329|Vibrava|2|Ground|Dragon|'''}}
{{Moveentrytm|330|Flygon|2|Ground|Dragon|'''}}
{{Moveentrytm|334|Altaria|2|Dragon|Flying|'''}}
{{Moveentrytm|371|Bagon|1|Dragon||'''}}
{{Moveentrytm|372|Shelgon|1|Dragon||'''}}
{{Moveentrytm|373|Salamence|2|Dragon|Flying|'''}}
{{Moveentrytm|380|Latias|2|Dragon|Psychic|'''}}
{{Moveentrytm|381|Latios|2|Dragon|Psychic|'''}}
{{Moveentrytm|384|Rayquaza|2|Dragon|Flying|'''}}
{{Moveentrytm|443|Gible|2|Dragon|Ground|'''}}
{{Moveentrytm|444|Gabite|2|Dragon|Ground|'''}}
{{Moveentrytm|445|Garchomp|2|Dragon|Ground|'''}}
{{Moveentrytm|483|Dialga|2|Steel|Dragon|'''}}
{{Moveentrytm|484|Palkia|2|Water|Dragon|'''}}
{{Moveentrytm|487|Giratina|2|Ghost|Dragon|'''}}
{{Moveentrytm|487|Giratina|2|Ghost|Dragon|'''|Origin}}
{{Moveentrytm|493|Arceus|1|Dragon||'''|Dragon}}
{{Learnlist/footer}}

====By {{pkmn2|event}}====
{{Learnlistspecial|Dragon}}
{{Moveentryspecial|385|Jirachi|2|Steel|Psychic|[[Nintendo Zone Jirachi|Nintendo Zone]], [[List of Nintendo event Pokémon in 2010#Gamestop Jirachi|Gamestop]]}}
{{Learnlist/footer}}

==In the anime==
{{moveanime|type=dragon|exp=yes|gen=The user showers meteors down on the opponent.|image1=Draco meteor 2.JPG|image1p=Meteor shower|image2=Draco Meteor 3.JPG|image2p=Meteors explode upon impact|image3=Black form.png|image3p=Black form|image4=Cynthia Garchomp Draco Meteor.png|image4p=Garchomp}}
{{movep|type=dragon|ms=483|pkmn=Dialga|method=A black shadow-like aura appears on Dialga's forehead and it fires multiple orange meteors at the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=dragon|user=Dialga (anime)|startcode=M10|startname=The Rise of Darkrai|notes=Debut}}
{{movep|type=dragon|ms=445|pkmn=Garchomp|method=Garchomp's body glows orange and a orange ball of light appears inside its chest. The glow fades and a ball of orange energy appears in front of Garchomp's mouth. Garchomp fires the ball into the air and it explodes, releasing many orbs where it exploded at the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=dragon|user=Cynthia's Garchomp|startcode=DP152|startname=The Battle Finale of Legend!}}
{{movep|type=dragon|ms=334|pkmn=Altaria|method=Altaria puts its wings in front of its body then holds them out and a orange light appears inside of its chest. The rest of its body also glows orange. It then holds up its head and a orange ball of energy appears in front of Altaria's beak. It then fires the ball into the sky and the ball explodes, releasing multiple orange spheres at the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=dragon|user=Altaria (Pokémon)|user1=Grandma Wilma's Altaria|startcode=DP156|startname=A Meteoric Rise to Excellence!}}
{{movep|type=dragon|ms=443|pkmn=Gible|method=Gible's body glows orange and an orange ball of light forms inside its body. Then, Gible opens its mouth wide and a huge orange orb appears inside it. It then fires the orb into the sky where it explodes, releasing multiple smaller spheres at the opponent.}}
{{movebtm|type=dragon|user=Ash's Gible|startcode=DP156|startname=A Meteoric Rise to Excellence!}}

==Trivia==
* Since this move can only be taught to dragon types, this means that Pokémon like {{p|Charizard}} and {{p|Gyarados}}, despite their dragon-like characteristics, cannot be taught the move. Even {{p|Horsea}}, {{p|Seadra}}, {{p|Swablu}}, and {{p|Trapinch}} cannot learn the move, despite being related to Dragon-types.
* {{p|Smeargle}} is one of only three non-Dragon-type Pokémon able to learn Draco Meteor, due to {{m|Sketch}}. The others are {{p|Jirachi}} and {{p|Arceus}} without Draco Plate (it needs to be holding the plate when it learns the move).
* {{p|Mew}}, though repeatedly said on the [[Pokédex]] to be able to learn any move, is not able to learn Draco Meteor because it can only be taught to {{type2|Dragon}} Pokémon.
** Because of this, all Pokémon who can learn Draco Meteor by [[move tutor]] receive [[STAB]] (except {{p|Arceus}} when the {{DL|Plate|Draco Plate}} is removed.).

==In other languages==
* Dutch: '''Draken Meteoor'''
* Spanish: '''Cometa Draco'''
* Italian: '''Dragobolide'''
*German: '''Draco Meteor'''
* Korean: '''용성군''' ''yongsonggun''

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[[pl:Smoczy Meteor]]
[[pt:Draco Meteor]]

Ash's Pikachu

2010-08-26T15:31:26Z

Patrickmck: /* History */ Sorry I don't know how to insert a link.

{{AnimePokémonInfobox|
trainername=Ash|
pokemonname=Pikachu|
jtrainername=サトシ|
jpokemonname=ピカチュウ|
tmtrainername=Satoshi|
tmpokemonname=Pikachu|
image=[[File:Ash Pikachu.png|250px]] |
caption=Ash and Pikachu |
gender=Male|
ability={{a|Static}} |
location=[[Pallet Town]] |
prevonum=025|
type1=Electric|
epnum=EP001|
epname=Pokémon - I Choose You! |
current=[[Party|With Ash]]|
java1=[[Ikue Ohtani]]|
}}

'''Ash's Pikachu''' (Japanese: '''サトシのピカチュウ''' ''Satoshi's Pikachu'') was the [[starter Pokémon|first Pokémon]] obtained by {{Ash}} on his journey as a [[Pokémon Trainer]]. His universal voice actress is [[Ikue Ohtani]]. However, in some episodes during the first season of the English dub series, [[Rachael Lillis]] provided Pikachu's voice when the original Japanese track couldn't be saved.

==In the anime==
===History===
[[File:First_Meeting.png‎|200px|left|thumb|{{Ash}} and Pikachu meeting for the first time]]
In the first episode of the [[Pokémon anime]], ''[[EP001|Pokémon - I Choose You!]]'', Ash woke up late the day he was supposed to go to [[Professor Oak]]'s laboratory to obtain his first Pokémon. When he arrived at the lab, the three available starter Pokémon, {{p|Bulbasaur}}, {{p|Charmander}}, and {{p|Squirtle}}, had already been taken by other Trainers who arrived earlier. Seeing that Ash was disappointed, Professor Oak gave him Pikachu, which did not take a liking to his new Trainer, constantly zapping him and anyone else nearby. He refused to go into a [[Poké Ball]], and when Ash failed to catch a wild Pokémon, he laughed at him. However, by the end of the episode, Ash gained Pikachu's trust by protecting him from an attack by a flock of {{p|Spearow}} and rushing him to the [[Pokémon Center]]. Pikachu and Ash soon became inseparable. In ''[[EP039|Pikachu's Goodbye]]'', Ash gave Pikachu his consent to remain in a forest filled with Pikachu, but Pikachu returned to Ash's side.

[[Image:Ash's 1st Poké Ball.png|thumb|right|200px|The [[Poké Ball]] Professor Oak stored Pikachu in, which has a special lightning bolt mark. It is unknown if this Poké Ball was permanent as Ash uses regular Poké Balls to attempt to recall Pikachu, and the other three Poké Balls that held {{P|Bulbasaur}}, {{P|Charmander}} and {{P|Squirtle}} were still on the podium but empty. Also, [[Gary's Blastoise]] is held in a regular Poké Ball.]]
In general, Pikachu as a species are not particularly powerful, but Ash's Pikachu is an anomaly, overcoming odds in {{pkmn|battle}} numerous times. In ''[[EP005|Showdown in Pewter City]]'', he defeated [[Brock's Steelix|Brock's Onix]] with an {{type2|Electric}} attack that triggered the sprinkler system causing Onix to be drenched in water, one of its weaknesses. In ''[[EP014|Electric Shock Showdown]]'', Pikachu fought [[Lt. Surge]]'s {{TP|Lt. Surge|Raichu}} and lost. During a resulting hospital stay, he refused to become Raichu's equal by evolving via a {{evostone|Thunderstone}}, and in the second battle, Pikachu overcame Raichu by using his superior speed. In ''[[EP002|Pokémon Emergency!]]'', {{MTR}} remarked that Pikachu's power "far exceeds its evolutionary level." Ash's Pikachu has also defeated very powerful Pokémon that Ash's other Pokémon were unable to, such as {{p|Dragonite}} and {{p|Metagross}}. He has helped Ash win innumerable battles and [[Gym]] and {{pkmn|League}} matches.

However, at times, {{p|Pikachu}} has lived up to his species' frail and brittle strengths, particularly in Gym battles where he was defeated with relative ease by his opponent; for example, he was overpowered very easily by [[Lt. Surge's Raichu]], [[Sabrina's Kadabra]], [[Blaine's Magmar]], [[Bugsy]]'s {{p|Scyther}}, [[Whitney's Miltank]], [[Roark's Rampardos]] and [[Fantina's Drifblim]]. He also drew against [[Winona]]'s {{p|Pelipper}} and [[Norman]]'s {{p|Vigoroth}}, and struggled against [[Crasher Wake's Floatzel]].

Pikachu is extremely loyal to Ash, and while he is not always immediately trusting of strangers, he is generally friendly to humans and Pokémon alike. He acted as a guardian and big brother to [[Misty's Togepi]], and has been seen mediating and even breaking up fights among other Pokémon, such as in ''[[PK01|Pikachu's Vacation]]''. In ''[[M01|Mewtwo Strikes Back]]'', Pikachu, {{MTR}}, and Meowth's clone were the only Pokémon not to participate in the giant battle; Pikachu stood motionless as his clone repeatedly slapped his face.

However, even Pikachu has had exceptions to this rule. In ''[[EP086|Pikachu Re-Volts]]'', Pikachu was controlled by Butch and Cassidy, which caused him to become evil and disobey Ash's commands. During the Hoenn Saga, Pikachu developed [[AG089|amnesia at one point and sided]] with [[Team Rocket]] for a while. Later within the same series, Pikachu was possessed by the Red Orb and controlled by Groudon, nearly causing a disaster. On several occasions, Pikachu has developed an "electric flu" causing him to become overcharged, and extremely powerful. During these instances, Pikachu will sometimes attack his friends and Ash. In all of these cases, Pikachu did not intentionally mean harm upon anyone.

Since Ash's first encounter with [[Team Rocket]] in ''[[EP002|Pokémon Emergency!]]'', Pikachu has been pursued by the trio of [[Jessie]], [[James]], and {{MTR}}. Throughout the series, it has been Jessie, James and Meowth's desire to steal this Pokémon from Ash and present him to [[Giovanni|their boss]]. To do this, they have come up with many schemes. Though they have tried and continue to try hundreds of times, every last one of their plots fail, usually with the help of Ash, his friends, other Trainers, an [[Officer Jenny]], or even themselves (such as in the [[DP001|first episode]] of the {{series|Diamond & Pearl}}).

As shown in a handful of episodes, the first being ''[[EP042|Showdown at Dark City]]'', Pikachu has a special fondness for ketchup, but he will eat and enjoy almost any other human or Pokémon food. A running joke in the anime also seems to be the destruction of a female character's [[bike]] with one of Pikachu's {{m|Thunderbolt}}s at the beginning of each series, which then causes her to {{ashfr|follow Ash}} for the remainder of the series. This has happened to {{an|Misty}}, {{an|May}}, and {{an|Dawn}} so far.

Pikachu is the primary mascot of the Pokémon franchise, mostly due to Ash's ownership of him. It appears on nearly all merchandise and promotional material for the series, and became, due to the anime, the [[version mascot]] of and only [[starter Pokémon]] in {{game|Yellow}}.

Pikachu took a liking to Misty very early in the series, and he has retained this liking of Misty throughout the series, such as when he was very happy to see her in ''[[AG132|The Scheme Team]]''.

Pikachu became the second non-legendary Pokémon to defeat a [[legendary Pokémon]] in the anime after {{AP|Charizard}}, beating {{FB|Pyramid King|Brandon}}'s {{DL|Brandon's Regis|Regice}} in ''[[AG190|Pace - The Final Frontier]]'', giving Ash his final [[Symbol|Frontier Symbol]].

Pikachu was also the only Pokémon to come with Ash to [[Hoenn]], and just the same one of only two Pokémon to join Ash on his journey to [[Sinnoh]]. Ash tried to bring only Pikachu again but {{TP|Dawn|Aipom|Ambipom}} snuck on board the ship. Up until the capture of [[Dawn's Pachirisu]], Pikachu was the only {{type2|Electric}} Pokémon in the anime owned by a main character.

Even with its high level of electrical power, Pikachu has not stopped learning new attacks. Upon learning that [[Roxanne]], the Rustboro Gym Leader used Rock-types, Ash had Pikachu begin learning [[Iron Tail]] in ''[[All Things Bright and Beautifly]]''. After training hard, Pikachu finally perfected it in ''[[A Winner by a Nosepass]]'' where it used it to defeat [[Roxanne's Nosepass]] and earn Ash his first Hoenn badge. In addition to giving Pikachu an advantage over Rock-types, Iron Tail has allowed Pikachu to defeat many powerful opponents. In ''[[May's Egg-Cellent Adventure]]'', during a battle with Team Rocket, Ash ordered Pikachu to do a [[Quick Attack]]. Much to the surprise of Ash and his friends, the Quick Attack morphed into [[Volt Tackle]] which sent Team Rocket blasting off. Since then, it has become one of Pikachu's signature moves.

In Hoenn, Pikachu learned how to surf. He also learned how to box from Ash in ''[[EP029|The Punchy Pokémon]]''. In Sinnoh, Ash used him during the [[Pokémon Ping Pong Tournament]].
[[File:PikachuStatic.png‎|250px|left|thumb|Pikachu activating his {{a|Static}} ability.]]
In Sinnoh, he defeated [[Roark]]'s Onix in the [[Oreburgh Gym]] rematch. Pikachu battled again in the [[Pastoria Gym]] battle, where he battled [[Crasher Wake]]'s Gyarados and defeated it with a {{m|Volt Tackle}} to the face. He also battled [[Crasher Wake's Floatzel]] for a moment, allowing [[Ash's Buizel]] time to recover. In ''[[DP102|A Shield with a Twist]]'' Pikachu lost to [[Fantina's Drifblim]] after a fierce battle.

Pikachu's next major battle after Fantina was when he was used against [[Paul]] in ''[[DP132|Evolving Strategies!]]''. First he went up against {{TP|Paul|Magmortar}}; however, when he attacked with {{m|Quick Attack}}, he was {{status|burn}}ed by Magmortar's {{a|Flame Body}} and Pikachu was recalled. Later he went up against Paul's very powerful {{TP|Paul|Ursaring}} and {{status|Paralysis|paralyzed}} it with Pikachu's {{a|Static}}. This actually made things worse for Pikachu as being paralyzed activated Ursaring's {{a|Guts}} ability, and Pikachu found himself completely outmatched by Ursaring's massive power and was defeated and thrown into [[Lake Acuity]], taking him out of the match as well as injuring him. This defeat meant that Ash had to defeat Paul's remaining five Pokémon with only {{AP|Chimchar}}.
[[File:Ash and his Pikachu.png|thumb|250px|Ash and Pikachu]]
Later, in ''[[DP165|Flint Sparks the Fire!]]'', Pikachu battled Flint's Infernape, but it was defeated after a long fight.

In [[DP179]], Pikachu battled against [[Volkner]]'s Electivire and won, giving him his first victory over Pokémon in the Electabuzz evolutionary line. However it was defeated by Volkner's Luxray.

Ash used Pikachu in his battle against Paul in [[DP186]]. It was used against Paul's {{p|Aggron}}, where it put up a good fight and weakened Aggron before it was recalled in place of Infernape. Pikachu was also used in the continuation of Ash's battle against Paul in [[DP187]]. It battled against Paul's {{p|Froslass}} where he was seen having some trouble at first, but by the end, he was able to pull through and defeat Froslass with a powerful {{m|Volt Tackle}} attack. This gave Pikachu his first win against one of Paul's Pokémon and also gave Ash the lead in the battle. In [[DP188]], he battled Paul's Electivire. Ash tells Pikachu to use Volt Tackle. It hits Electivire but as Electivire had activated it's {{a|Motor Drive}} ability, the attack took no effect at all. It was soon defeated by Electivire's {{m|Brick Break}} attack. In [[DP189]], Pikachu was the last Pokémon chosen by Ash to battle [[Takuto]]. Despite Ash losing five of his Pokémon, Pikachu tried its best to defeat Takuto's {{p|Latios}}. Ash tells Pikachu to use Volt Tackle, and Latios to counter with {{m|Giga Impact}}. However, it was tied with Latios, and both fainted. As Ash's last Pokémon also fainted, Takuto was crowned the winner of their battle.

In a trailer on the Best Wishes website, Pikachu is shown to be with ash in Isshu.

===Moves used===
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{{anmu|electric|ThunderShock|EP001|Pokémon - I Choose You!}}
{{anmu|electric|Thunderbolt|EP005|Showdown in Pewter City|rec=yes}}
{{anmu|normal|Leer|EP009|The School of Hard Knocks|x=yes}}
{{anmu|psychic|Agility|EP014|Electric Shock Showdown}}
{{anmu|normal|Quick Attack|EP014|Electric Shock Showdown|rec=yes}}
{{anmu|electric|Thunder|EP042|Showdown at Dark City}}
{{anmu|normal|Double-Edge|EP079|Friend and Foe Alike}}
{{anmu|normal|Tackle|EP118|The Double Trouble Header|x=yes}}
{{anmu|steel|Iron Tail|AG013|All Things Bright and Beautifly!|rec=yes}}
{{anmu|electric|Volt Tackle|AG150|May's Egg-Cellent Adventure|rec=yes}}
{{anmu/f|electric|yes|x=yes}}

=====Moves improvised=====
[[File:Pikachu's Counter Shield.png|thumb|right|250px|Pikachu using Counter Shield]]
'''Leer''' was first seen in ''[[EP009|The School of Hard Knocks]]''. When Giselle called for Cubone to use Leer, Ash told Pikachu to 'Leer right back' by making funny faces. Ash also told Pikachu to use Leer in ''[[EP150|Hour of the Houndour]]'', when a {{p|Houndour}} used its own Leer on Pikachu.

An attack where Pikachu stored electricity in his tail similar to {{m|Slam}} was used to defeat [[Lt. Surge's Raichu]] in ''[[EP014|Electric Shock Showdown]]''.

'''"Rocket Punch"''' was a move that Pikachu used while "boxing" {{ka|Anthony}}'s {{p|Hitmonchan}} in ''[[EP029|The Punchy Pokémon]]''. Pikachu glowed red and shot off his boxing gloves, leaving off a trail of smoke. Once the smoke disappears, Pikachu still has his boxing gloves on and flies towards Hitmonchan at high speed.

'''Thunder Armor''' was a one-time technique in the episode ''[[AG100|Solid as a Solrock]]'', Pikachu is seen using Thunder on himself while riding Ash's Swellow. This increased their attack power greatly, and they easily overpowered their opponents.

'''Spin''', originally made by {{an|Dawn}} and first used by her Piplup and Buneary, was also used by Turtwig and Aipom in the episode ''[[DP018|O'er the Rampardos We Watched!]]'', where he was able beat Roark and obtain the Coal Badge.

'''Volt Tail''', a combination of {{m|Volt Tackle}} and {{m|Iron Tail}}, was used in ''[[DP074|Pika and Goliath!]]'' against [[Sho]]'s {{p|Raichu}} and once again in [[DP189]] against [[Takuto]]'s {{p|Latios}}.

'''[[Counter Shield]]''' can be used by Pikachu by utilizing {{m|Thunderbolt}}, similar to [[Ash's Buizel]] and {{AP|Infernape}} who can do the technique with their own moves.

==In the games==
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{{bulbanews|Satoshi's Pikachu to be distributed via Wi-Fi}}
Pikachu was one of {{Ash}}'s three Pokémon in {{g|Puzzle League}}. The Pikachu in the Super Smash Bros. series may be based on Ash's Pikachu.

In the main series, {{ga|Red's Pikachu}} is noticeably based on Ash's Pikachu: not only does {{ga|Red}} receive it from Professor Oak after his rival, Oak's grandson, takes the last starter Pokémon, but in {{game|Yellow}}, it [[walking Pokémon|follows Red around]] rather than being kept in a Poké Ball. In [[Generation II]] and {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}, Pikachu is the highest-leveled member of Red's team when he is encountered at Mt. Silver, and the highest leveled Pokémon owned by a Trainer in the entire series excluding battle arenas. His moves, notably in HeartGold and SoulSilver, are the four moves used most recently by Ash's Pikachu, as well.

A Japanese event distributed an in-game representation of Ash's Pikachu via Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection and at participating Japanese {{wp|McDonald}}'s locations which was held from July 15th through August 10, 2010.

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==In the manga==
===In the Ash and Pikachu manga===
Ash's Pikachu is a starring character in the [[Ash and Pikachu]] {{pkmn|manga}} series, which is based on the [[Johto]] saga of the Pokémon anime.

===In the Electric Tale of Pikachu manga===
[[File:Pikachumangaash.jpg|thumb|right|Ash's Pikachu in The Electric Tale of Pikachu]]
Ash's Pikachu is a starring character in the {{pkmn|manga}} series
[[The Electric Tale of Pikachu]], which is loosely based on the Pokémon anime. Pikachu appears in every chapter of the manga.

Like in the anime, Pikachu was Ash's first Pokémon. However, Ash did not receive Pikachu from [[Professor Oak]] - instead, he finds Pikachu under the floorboards of his home, chewing on wires to eat the electricity. His [[Delia Ketchum|mother]] asks him to take Pikachu outside, but when [[Gary Oak]] taunts Ash about how he has not yet become a [[Pokémon Trainer]], Ash decides to keep Pikachu as his first Pokémon.

Like in the anime, Pikachu was originally unwilling to obey Ash, but after Ash protects Pikachu from a herd of wild {{p|Spearow}} and {{AP|Fearow}}, Pikachu gains respect for Ash.

Pikachu likes {{an|Misty}} and greets her enthusiastically whenever she appears, often ignoring Ash in the process.

===In the Magical Pokémon Journey manga===
Ash's Pikachu, along with {{Ash}}, {{an|Misty}} and {{an|Brock}}, makes a cameo appearance in the bonus chapters at the end of every volume of the [[Magical Pokémon Journey]] {{pkmn|manga}} series. In the bonus chapters, Ash and friends have mistakenly wandered into the Magical Pokémon Journey world and are trying to return back to the world of the {{pkmn|anime}}, encountering many unusual situations along the way, including encounters of aspects of the Magical Pokémon Journey canon which are different in anime canon.

Ash's Pikachu shows a video to {{MPJ|Pikachu}} of him bouncing a [[Poké Ball]] on his head in [[One Hundred Fifty-One]].

==In the TCG==
Ash's Pikachu is featured in the TCG as a {{TCG|Pokémon M|Pokémon}} {{SP|M}}. The following is a list of cards named '''Pikachu {{SP|M}}'''.
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{tcg Lightning color}};"
!Name
!Type
!Level
!Rarity
!Set
!Set no.
|-
| {{TCG ID|Movie Random Pack Promo|Pikachu M|12}} || rowspan=2 | {{e|Lightning}} || 45 || - || {{TCG|Movie Commemoration Random Pack}} (no English release) || 012/022
|-
| {{TCG ID|DPt-P Promo|Pikachu M LV.X|43}} || ''X'' || - || {{TCG|DPt-P Promotional cards}} (no English release) || 043/DPt-P
|}

==Trivia==
[[Image:Pikachu loves ketchup.png|200px|thumb|left|Pikachu and his love of ketchup]]
* Ash's Pikachu is the subject of many 'gamebreaking' abilities that normally do not fit in the general stasis of the games. This includes Pikachu's ability to sometimes hurt {{type2|Ground}} Pokémon with Electric moves (sparking the meme "Aim for the Horn!"), and using moves that do not exist, or moves in a way that do not work in the games, such as the infamous "Thunder Armor".
* Despite the fact that {{m|Volt Tackle}}, the signature move of his evolutionary line, is in fact an egg move, Ash's Pikachu learned the move "by accident," when using an electrically-charged {{m|Quick Attack}}.
* Pikachu is Ash's only {{type2|Electric}} Pokémon and was the only Electric-type owned by a main character in the anime until the capture of {{TP|Dawn|Pachirisu}} by Dawn. However, Pikachu is the only Electric-type Pokémon owned by a main character that can evolve.
* For ''[[DP013|A Staravia is Born]]'', [[Professor Oak's lecture]] is about Ash's Pikachu. He writes this [[Pokémon senryū]] about him: パートナー　サトシとピカチュウ　いいかんじ ''Partners Satoshi and Pikachu: a pleasant feeling''.
* Out of all five regions that Ash visited, [[Kanto]] and [[Hoenn]] are the only ones that Ash started out with just Pikachu. He did try to go to [[Sinnoh]] with Pikachu alone but Aipom followed him. At the beginning of each, Pikachu was also, in some way, injured, and ended up destroying the [[Bicycle|bike]] of a particular girl who would later [[Ash's friends|travel with Ash]].
* Pikachu was the first of Ash's Pokémon to disobey him. Other Pokémon that would do so, and be better remembered for their disobedience than Pikachu, are {{AP|Primeape}} and {{AP|Charizard}}.
* Ash's act of keeping Pikachu outside his Poké Ball on a permanent basis has been mimicked by several other characters in the anime.
** [[Ritchie]], when he first meets Ash, keeps [[Sparky]] inside of its ball, but later is shown to carry it on his shoulder much like Ash does.
** {{an|Misty}}, when she gets to keep {{TP|Misty|Togepi|Togetic}}, has never placed Togepi inside a Poké Ball and is always shown carrying it in her arms.
** Dawn, likewise, does the same with her {{TP|Dawn|Piplup}}.
* Out of Ash's Pokémon, Pikachu was the first one to defeat a [[pseudo-legendary]] Pokémon during battle in the anime, defeating {{OBP|Drake|Orange League}}'s {{TP|Drake|Dragonite}} in ''[[EP112|Enter the Dragonite]]'' and {{ho|Tyson}}'s {{p|Metagross}} during the [[Ever Grande Conference]] of the Hoenn League in ''[[AG131|At the End of the Fray]]''. However, in both occasions, the two [[pseudo-legendary]] Pokémon had been weakened by other Pokémon in Ash's team at the time; {{AP|Squirtle}}, {{AP|Charizard}} and {{AP|Tauros}} had weakened {{TP|Drake|Dragonite}} while {{AP|Swellow}} and {{AP|Grovyle|Sceptile}} had weakened {{p|Metagross}}.
* Pikachu is the second Pokémon in the entire {{pkmn|anime}} series to have managed to defeat a [[legendary Pokémon]], which he did by defeating {{FB|Pyramid King|Brandon}}'s {{DL|Brandon's Regis|Regice}} in ''[[AG190|Pace - The Final Frontier!]]''. [[Ash's Charizard]] was the first Pokémon to have achieved this feat, against {{TP|Noland|Articuno}}. Pikachu also tied with Takuto's Latios in DP189.
* Most of the moves Pikachu used in the [[original series]] were first used in an episode with the word ''showdown'' in its title.
* In ''[[EP030|Sparks Fly for Magnemite]]'', it was revealed that Pikachu has a fear of Ash leaving him.
[[File:PikachuDP.png|200px|thumb|right|Pikachu]]
* In many new episodes, Pikachu's tail sparks instead of his cheeks when using {{m|Thunderbolt}}.
* In ''[[DP142|Where No Togepi Has Gone Before!]]'' it was confirmed that Pikachu is male. When a {{p|Togepi}} used {{m|Attract}} on Pikachu, {{MTR}}, {{TP|Dawn|Piplup}}, {{TP|Brock|Croagunk}} and {{TP|Jessie|Yanmega}}, all but Yanmega were affected (coincidentally, this also revealed Yanmega as being female). Voice actress Ikue Ohtani stated prior to this episode that the writers had intended to keep Pikachu's gender ambiguous so the fanbase can connect with him more easily.
** Ash also referred to Pikachu as a male in ''[[EP086|Pikachu Re-Volts]]''. Shortly after [[Officer Jenny]] first arrives, Ash proclaims in dismay, "You just gotta find him Officer Jenny!"
** Pikachu's gender can also be inferred from Buneary's infatuation with Pikachu, first seen in ''[[DP009|Setting the World on Its Buneary!]]''.
* Pikachu is Ash's only Pokémon he has on hand that has not learned a new move yet in the Sinnoh region.
* It is the only Pokémon of Ash's to be used in every gym battle in a [[Johto|region]].
*In {{pmin|Latin America}}, Cartoon Network has a "Biografia Toon" segment, which consists of biographies and histories of cartoon characters. This segment has done a two-part feature on Ash's Pikachu. According to the segment, Pikachu is the result of an experiment conducted by [[Professor Oak]] and allegedly destroyed the lab where he was created in a momentary loss of control.
* [[DP170]] has been the only time when Ash does not use Pikachu against an [[Elite Four]] member.
*The defeat of [[Volkner]]'s {{p|Electivire}} marks the first time Pikachu has defeated a member of the {{p|Electabuzz}} evolutionary line one on one. All previous times it has either tied or lost, with the exception of [[Dr. Namba]]'s Electabuzz, where Pikachu teamed up with [[Ritchie]]'s Pikachu, [[Sparky]], to defeat it.

===Pikachu's language===
Some of Pikachu's speech is consistent enough that it seems that some phrases actually mean something. (In ''[[DP115|Stealing The Conversation]]'', [[Team Rocket]] refers to this language as "PikaSpeak," however, this most likely isn't official.) For instance, Pikachu always uses "Pikapi" when referring to Ash (notice that it sounds somewhat similar to "Satoshi"). Other speech includes:
*Pika Pikachu or Pika-Pika Pikachu: ''My name is Pikachu''. When Ash and his friends are introducing themselves to the [[characters of the day]], he says this.
[[File:Pikachu wobbuffet.png|200px|thumb|Pikachu as a {{p|Wobbuffet}}]]
*Pi-Kachu: He says this during the sponsor spots in the original Japanese.
*Pikachu-Pi: ''{{an|Misty|Kasumi-chan}}'' (Misty)
*Pika-Chu: ''{{an|Brock|Takeshi}}'' (Brock)
*Pikaka: ''{{an|Dawn|Hikari}}'' (Dawn)
[[File:Pikachu as ash.png|200px|thumb|left|Pikachu imitating {{Ash}}]]
*Pi?: Used when addressing something unknown. Can mean, "What?"
*PiPiPi: ''{{TP|Misty|Togepi}}'' (Togepi)
*PikakaPika: ''[[Ash's Bulbasaur|Fushigidane]]'' (Bulbasaur)
*PikaPika: ''[[Ash's Squirtle|Zenigame]]'' (Squirtle) or ''[[Ash's Staraptor|Mukuhawk]]'' (Staraptor) or ''[[Ash's Infernape|Goukazaru]]'' (Infernape)
*PiPi-kachu: ''[[Team Rocket|Rocket-dan]]'' (Team Rocket).
*Pi-Pikachu: ''[[Gotta catch 'em all!|Get da ze!]]'' He says this after Ash wins a badge, catches a new Pokémon or anything similar.
*Pi-ka: Used for multiple things such as "eiga" (movie) as seen during trailers for each upcoming [[Pokémon movie]]. Can also be used for "yes".
*Pi-ka-chu?: ''Are you alright?'': When a character or Pokémon is injured, Pikachu says this.
*Specific names for {{Tracey}}, {{an|May}}, and [[Max]] have not been heard.
[[File:Pikachu Imitating Turtwig.png|200px|thumb|right|Ash's Pikachu imitating his Turtwig to alert him that it is missing.]]
*Chuuu-Pika: ''{{m|Iron Tail}}''. He says this when using {{m|Iron Tail}}.
*Piiika-Chuuuuuuuu: ''{{m|Thunderbolt}}''. He says this when using {{m|Thunderbolt}}, "Pika" when charging up and "Chuuuuu" when discharging.
*Pikaaaaaa-Chuuuuuuuu: ''{{m|Thunder}}''. He says this when using {{m|Thunder}}, like above but with different and a longer stress.
*PikaPikaPika... Pi-ka: ''{{m|Volt Tackle}}''. He says this when using {{m|Volt Tackle}}.
*ChuChuChu...: ''{{m|Quick Attack}}''. He may also say this when using {{m|Agility}}.
*PiPiPiPiPi...: ''{{m|Quick Attack}}''. He may also say this when using {{m|Agility}}.
*Pikachu seems to have a talent for mimicking Pokémon, as seen from his performance during [[DP033|a cosplay competition]]. He will occasionally use pantomime to specify what he is talking about. He can contort his face and his ears to imitate {{Ash}}, his {{AP|Turtwig|Torterra}}, {{TP|Jessie|Wobbuffet}}, among others.
*Pikachu has also used his face to tell when a character is in trouble by imitating people and Pokémon.
*Pikachu is also one of few Pokémon owned by Ash to not have fallen in love with another Pokémon or living thing.

==Related articles==
* {{Animespecies|Pikachu}}
* {{cat|Episodes focusing on Pikachu}}

==External links==
*[http://pokeani.com/poke/satoshi/r_p-no025.html Pikachu's Profile] on [[Pokeani]] (Japanese)

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Talk:Girafarig (Pokémon)

2010-08-22T07:58:45Z

Patrickmck: /* Levels not listed */

== It's the only ==
Dual-Type Normal-Type with no Electric weakness. Someone put this in for me, please, I'm horrible at edits. --[[User:Chaos Theory|Chaos Theory]] 20:04, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

:Horrible at edits or not, you wouldn't have been able to do it yourself anyway at this time. It's not until UTC reaches tomorrow that the protections set on the species pages start to expire, provided that they're not renewed (and believe me, that would require multiple people slaving over a hot stove, cooking dolphin, and getting no appreciation). I'd reveal the reasons for this, but if I did so, I'd have to permablock you. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 20:09, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
== Bite ==
Is it true that Girafarig can't learn Bite. If so, isn't it than a Trivia [[User:Bigtukker|Bigtukker]] 13:40, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Why would it be? --[[User:Grubdubdub|Grubdubdub]] 06:48, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
:... It is in the trivia...--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 07:03, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

== Pokédex Error ==

In it's Emerald Dex entry, it says "''A Girafarig is '''an''' herbivore--it eats grass and tree shoots. While it is eating, its tail makes chewing and swallowing motions as if it were also eating.''" Is this an error on Bulbapedia's mark, or Game Freak's? {{unsigned|Pawsrent}}
:Actually, "an herbivore" is grammatically correct. The h is silent in this word, so it's treated as if it began with a vowel, thus using the word "an". '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 23:28, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
::Not all of us say it with a silent ''h'' Sol. Either way though it should be ''an''. A quirk of the English language is that h at the start of words behaves as a vowel for the purposes of a/an, etc. It's a quirk inherited from Latin through French, although it is very commonly forgotten. The question now is did Game Freak get it right, or have we fixed their mistake? <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 23:37, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
:::It says "an herbivore" pretty clearly on my game.. ▫▫'''[[User:Tina|ティナ]]'''[[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|★]] 23:46, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

== Levels not listed ==

um...what? [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 05:20, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Pages for different Pokemon list where it is found, and at what level. But I can not find it for Girafarig. Sorry, I type slow.[[User:Patrickmck|Patrickmck]] 05:36, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

No I'm sorry I got mixed up.[[User:Patrickmck|Patrickmck]] 07:58, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Girafarig (Pokémon)

2010-08-22T05:36:38Z

Patrickmck: /* Pokédex Error */

Talk:Girafarig (Pokémon)

2010-08-22T05:02:26Z

Patrickmck:

DP170

2010-08-22T03:38:46Z

Patrickmck: /* Trivia */

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'''An Elite Coverup!''' (Japanese: '''四天王キクノ！カバルドンＶＳドダイトス！！''' ''{{tt|Kikuno|Bertha}} of the {{tt|Four Heavenly Kings|Elite Four}}! {{tt|Kabarudon|Hippowdon}} VS {{tt|Dodaitose|Torterra}}!!'') is the 170th episode of the {{series|Diamond & Pearl}}, and the 636th episode of the [[Pokémon anime]]. It first aired in Japan on April 1, 2010 as part of a 1-hour special alongside ''[[DP171|Dawn of a Royal Day!]]'' and will air in the United States on August 21, 2010.
{{spoilers}}
==Synopsis==
{{incomplete synopsis}}
When [[Team Rocket]] make off with a [[Roland|young boy's]] {{p|Magby}}, {{Ash}} and {{ashfr|his friends}} give chase along with a mysterious woman. While no-one else recognizes her {{an|Brock}} knows who the woman is... [[Bertha]] of the [[Elite Four]]!

== Major events ==
* Ash and friends meet [[Sinnoh]] [[Elite Four]] member [[Bertha]].
* Ash has a {{pkmn|battle}} against Bertha, but loses.

===Debuts===
* [[Bertha]]
====Pokémon debuts====


==Characters==
===Humans===
* {{Ash}}
* {{an|Dawn}}
* {{an|Brock}}
* [[Jessie]]
* [[James]]
* [[Sinnoh]] [[Elite Four]]
** {{EF|Aaron}} (memory)
** [[Bertha]]
** {{EF|Flint}} (memory)
** [[Lucian]] (memory)
* [[Roland]]
* [[Giovanni]] (fantasy)
* [[Team Rocket grunts|Rocket Grunts]] (fantasy)

===Pokémon===
* {{p|Pikachu}} ({{OP|Ash|Pikachu}})
* {{p|Meowth}} ({{TRM}})
* {{p|Piplup}} ({{OP|Dawn|Piplup}})
* {{p|Wobbuffet}} ({{OP|Jessie|Wobbuffet}})
* {{p|Mime Jr.}} ({{OP|James|Mime Jr.}})
* {{p|Torterra}} ({{OP|Ash|Torterra}})
* {{p|Staraptor}} ({{OP|Ash|Staraptor}})
* {{p|Buizel}} ({{OP|Ash|Buizel}})
* {{p|Pachirisu}} ({{OP|Dawn|Pachirisu}})
* {{p|Seviper}} ({{OP|Jessie|Seviper}})
* {{p|Carnivine}} ({{OP|James|Carnivine}})
* {{p|Hippowdon}} ([[Bertha]]'s)
* {{p|Golem}} ([[Bertha]]'s)
* {{p|Gliscor}} ([[Bertha]]'s)
* {{p|Magby}} ([[Roland]]'s)
* {{p|Magmar}} (picture)

==Trivia==
* [[Professor Oak's lecture|Professor Oak's Pokémon lecture]]: {{p|Wurmple}}
** When Wurmple [[Evolution|evolves]] into {{p|Cascoon}} towards the end of the lecture, Cascoon is shown with the spikes protruding from its body which, despite being present in the [[Ken Sugimori|Sugimori]] art, were absent during all of Cascoon's previous anime appearances (a picture of {{p|Silcoon}} shown at the end of the lecture also shows it with the standard spikes).
* This marks the first time in the anime where all members of the [[Elite Four]] of [[Sinnoh|a region]] debuted during that region's saga.
** This episode also marks the second complete group of Elite Four members which have appeared in the anime. The first group, the [[Kanto]] group of [[Generation I]] and [[Generation III]], debuted over the course of eight years, with [[Bruno]]'s appearance just before Ash's first League competition and [[Agatha]]'s debut shortly before the beginning of the Battle Frontier saga.
* This one-hour special marks the 13th anniversary of the {{pkmn|anime}} series.
* Background music from ''[[PK01|Pikachu's Vacation]]'', ''[[M01|Mewtwo Strikes Back]]'', ''[[M05|Pokémon Heroes]]'', ''[[M09|Pokémon Ranger and the Temple of the Sea]]'', ''[[M10|The Rise of Darkrai]]'' and ''[[M11|Giratina and the Sky Warrior]]'' is used.
* This is the first time Ash's Pikachu isn't used against an Elite Four member.
* While Team Rocket is saying their motto, James is holding a rose, like during the original series.
* When chasing after Team Rocket in their balloon, Bertha goes very fast in her red vehicle.
**At the end of the epiode, she goes much slower.

===Errors===
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Talk:Pokémon the Series: Black & White

2010-08-06T11:27:35Z

Patrickmck:

== I've a question ==

<blockquote>''As with both the Advanced Generation and Diamond & Pearl series before it, the Best Wishes series begins with only Ash Ketchum, headed off to a new region with his Pikachu.''</blockquote>
So far as I've seen, there is absolutely no confirmation that Ash will even be the ''main character'' in this series; Japanese fans are throwing around rumors that he's going to be taking Brock's role. So why is speculative crap like that being presented on this page as fact? We don't know anything about the series, and we shouldn't pretend that we do.

But if I'm wrong by all means, point me towards official confirmation of everything mentioned on this page. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 17:40, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

:They're probably just going on tradition. It won't be for a very long while until the series starts, so the sentence can just probably be removed altogether until then. [[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]] 18:32, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
: It comes from the "leaked" sketch of "Iris" it had Ash in BW Guy Protagonist's clothing. While they may have changed their mind and such, since it looked like a rough/beta sketch. "Iris" does match the silhouette of the BW Anime Heroine, and both "Iris" and Ash were pretty much detailed pretty good, so there is a very likely chance (if that's not confirmation) that Ash will be in the B/W series.--[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 04:00, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
::She never said that Ash wouldn't be in the show, though- more that Ash won't be the main character like he always is, and taking on more of a side role like Brock... ▫▫'''[[User:Tina|ティナ]]'''[[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|★]] 04:05, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
:::Um...is that really true?--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 02:20, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

== The New Girl ==

I may have overlooked it, but does anyone have a link to any official confirmation that the name of the new heroine is Iris? --[[User:Pkmn veteran|Pkmn veteran]] 03:52, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
: Now that I've thought about it, I'm assuming the name came from the leaked line art which was on a Chinese site. Correct me if I'm wrong. --[[User:Pkmn veteran|Pkmn veteran]] 02:46, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
::Yep, that sketch is where people are getting it from. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 03:49, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

== Air date? ==

When does this series air?--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 09:57, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
:Upon the conclusion of the [[Diamond & Pearl series]]. It is currently unknown how many more episodes the DP series will have, so it is unknown what date it will air. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 10:08, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
::alright. thank you--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 10:25, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

== Not confirmed ==
Some of the info (such as Dawn/Brock leaving) has not been explicitly confirmed. Though Dawn's departure is probable, this inbformation is not accurate as it hasn't been confirmed. I'll edit it out for the meanwhile. [[User:Bubblewrap|Bubblewrap]] 15:25, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
:Now, I don't know if anyone's flat out said "BROCK AND DAWN ARE NOT IN THE SHOW" but there's been a few [http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Blog_comment_releases_information_on_Black_and_White_anime official] [http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Fourth_anime_series_title_revealed sources] which have more or less said they're both out of the show. --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 15:31, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
:: (I just realised I can't edit this page!). I know those articles do pretty much confirm it - but I'm sure they could be taken in a different way. We haven't seen any official character images, so we can't say for sure even if it looks very likely. I'm not sure, it's not too big of a problem but I think it could be taken the wrong way. [[User:Bubblewrap|Bubblewrap]] 15:37, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
:::Yes we have. Brock and Dawn are gone. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:57, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

==Reimu==
Is it official? I remember that such name was only used in a description of the anime that was proven false (the same one saying that Koromori was currently being called "Kurimori" and stuff). The author (some guy from Serebii Forums) came and admitted he created it all. - [[User:D-Wheel|D-Wheel]] 00:15, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
:The TV Tokyo site calls him Dento. --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 00:17, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
::Would it be... "デント"? "Dent"? Sounds... fine, I guess... and somewhat "western", like Iris, Cheren, Bel, Aloe... - [[User:D-Wheel|D-Wheel]] 00:29, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
:::That's what I was thinking, is it Dento, or Dent? Just curious. Like how Iris' is Airisu(not sure if it is right). --'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 00:39, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

== Edit ==

This page still refers to Dento as Reimu, a rumor which was proved false a long time ago. --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 23:42, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

== Not in the games. ==

*The ''Best Wishes'' series is the only anime series since the [[original series]] to have no game protagonists among Ash's group, and so far the only anime series not to have any characters who appear in the games among Ash's friends.

How do we know this is the case? For all we know they could be gym leaders. {{unsigned|Billyt506}}
:Gym Leaders don't count. It's referring to [[Player character]]s --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 15:04, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
Then I guess that trivia is wrong. If gym leaders don't count then the original series also falls into this category. --[[user:Billyt506|Bill]][[Special:Contributions/Billyt506|t]][[User talk:Billyt506|506]] 14:08, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
:Well Ash counts as being based on Red, unless Ash doesn't count. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 14:10, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/9228/dento.jpg Dento by Ken Sugimori [[User:Hikaru Wazana]]

== Dento is a Game Character..... ==

On serebii.net, it talks about Dento being a game character, so for now, only Iris is the anime-only character joining Ash's group. So that trivia should be taken down. [[User:BAC510]] August 3rd, 2010 (UTC)

August 3rd, 2010: Dento has been revealed to be a Game Character by Yahoo Japan. There's also a Sugimori Art which confirms this. {{unsigned|Didich}}
:Settle down people. We don't need a million people posting the same thing. It will be updated soon. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 18:39, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
::Just wanted to point out that there being Sugimori art of a character {{img|Jenny Sugimori.png|doesn't prove anything}}. I mean in this context it's pretty much confirmed that Dento is a game character, but if having Sugimori artwork were the definitive confirmation for being a game character, then [http://www.gamefreak.co.jp/blog/art/ all the movie characters] would be game characters, too. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 19:43, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
Jenny don't appears in Pokemon Yellow?? [[User:Hikaru Wazana]] August 3rd, 2010 (UTC)
:That's not the point. :| [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 19:56, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Link to page for Iris
A page for Iris has been created already, but her name is red.[[User:Patrickmck|Patrickmck]] 11:27, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

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<big><big><big>ASH'S AGE IS INDETERMINATE! AS OF EPISODE 1, HE IS 10 AS FAR AS IT'S KNOWN! PLEASE DO NOT POST ABOUT IT!</big></big></big>
== Previous discussions ==
* [[Talk:Ash Ketchum/Archive 1|Archive 1]]
* [[Talk:Ash Ketchum/Archive 2|Archive 2]]
* [[Talk:Ash Ketchum/Archive 3|Archive 3]]
* [[Talk:Ash Ketchum/Archive 4|Archive 4]]
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== Gym Badges ==
Does anyone have a picture of Ash's Sinnoh gym badges?
== Ash's Gible... ==

Look, I tried to insert it in because it's fact that he's getting one. If it was just people talking on the forum, then I could let it stay off. However, we have had a Yahoo Japanese Shopping Catalogue AND Amazon.com explicitly refer to a Gible Toy that's being released as being "Ash's Gible". THAT'S why it needs to be in this article's trivia section, if anywhere. Don't believe me? Check these out:

1. http://store.shopping.yahoo.co.jp/mizota/100700793.html
2. http://www.serebiiforums.com/showpost.php?p=10540887&postcount=1
3. http://www.amazon.co.jp/バンダイ-ポケットモンスター-キメわざポケモンキッズDP4-BOX-食玩/dp/B002QQ7C4I

Ok, so technically, number two was a forum post, but it supplied the translation of what #1 said. For number 3, here's the Japanese Text:

商品紹介
ポケモンがわざを繰り出す瞬間を立�� 化した『キメわざポケモンキッズ』D Pシリーズ第4弾。幻のポケモンの「アルセウス」「ジラーチ」を中心にル�� ー・サファイヤの初期ポケモンであ� ��「キモリ」「アチャモ」「ミズゴロウ」もラインナップ。さらにサトシ�� 新たなる仲間のポケモンとなる「フ� ��マル」をラインナップしている。（全15種類）

Also, Babelfish did a translation on the last portion of the sentence, and here's what it said:

"Furthermore it becomes [pokemon] of the companion where [satoshi] becomes new “[fukamaru]” is lined up. (All the 15 types)"

[[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 19:47, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
:Remeber.....Wait until it happens! [[User:ShinyPikachu/Petition|Never Give Up]] [[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']] 19:48, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
::How do you know that the catalog didn't see the title of [[DP145]] and automatically assumed Ash was going to capture Gible? I wouldn't be surprised. And these stupid websites take forever to update their information. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 19:53, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
:::Simple, they said "by the end of the year". If they were referring to DP145, they wouldn't have said "by the end of the year" (By the end of the year implies that it would happen by the last week of December, not in the middle of September). [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 19:56, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
::::End of the year doesn't always mean the last week of December. Sometimes it can mean the beginning of Fall. The episode aired October 1st. They saw the air date and just said "the end of the year". And for all I know, it's not an accurate translation. It's best to keep this off the pages. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 20:01, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
:::::Weedle, we can't be 100% sure of anything. It's not fact, it's speculation. It might happen. It might not happen. Not to mention, even if it's true, it's a spoiler. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 20:10, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
::::::Well, either way, Bulbanews just announced that Ash will be catching a Gible. {{unsigned|Weedle Mchairybug}}
:Well, either way, we wait 'til it happens. That's how it is, and how's its been for awhile. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|You enter a poorly lit room...]] 01:59, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

== Regarding the section about Ash as a character ==
Much of it is convoluted and poorly constructed. The problem appears to be that new contributions are not seamlessly integrated with those already in place, resulting in a lack of observable rhyme or reason. This hinders the flow of the writing, making the entire segment sub-par.

Bulbapedia has standards for a reason, and it is to avoid something like this happening as the result of numerous individuals contributing to one article. As it stands, I feel the entire section should be cleaned up and revised. [[User:Vipera|Vipera]] 21:16, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
:I Agree. - [[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 22:34, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
::Go on then. Show us what you're made of ;) —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 05:34, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
:::Forgive me if I misinterpreted the tone of your comment, but I read it as being awfully snide.

:::I've already done some minor stylistic and grammatical revision to the section in question and plan to overhaul it using the information already present, but that's about all I can do. I'm not as knowledgeable about Ash as most others here since I'm only up to EP224 and therefore hesitant to make contributions in the form of information - I would likely be mistaken on many subjects since my anime experience is incomplete at best and woefully lacking at the very worst.

:::The appeal of a wiki lies in the fact that multiple users can contribute to a single article in numerous ways, as each brings to the table different skill sets and areas of expertise. That is why I've called attention to this issue. I can't make the necessary improvements alone. [[User:Vipera|Vipera]] 06:27, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
::::Uh, sorry. I didn't mean it like that and I don't consider myself to be a "snide" person. I was merely trying to encourage you to be bold and take on the section. I know less about the anime than you do, otherwise I'd offer help as well. One of the things I enjoy about a wiki is going out and editing something, and watching how others adapt and improve my own work. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:36, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

== Telepathic side of Aura and Pikachu ==

I was thinking, is it possible that Ash was using Latent Aura powers to understand Pikachu? I know it wasn't invented till gen 4, but it's something to mention as a possibility. --[[User:Jono R|Jono R]] 22:50, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Thats speculation, probabaly not true [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and believe in Missingno. Master's Celebi Glitch because i caught one!]] 15:55, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

== Azelf ==

I think Azelf should be added, because not only was it legendary. But also because Ash commanded it and he actually had a telepathic bond to it. Aside from Riolu how often does that happen? --[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 22:59, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
:Didn't do it for Riolu, why do it for Azelf? --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 23:01, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
:: I'm going to say that it's because Azelf had more of a story than Riolu. This whole Pixie storyline began with Dawn and Mesprit. Which culminated to DP151 and DP152. Where we have Ash, Brock, and Dawn being telepathically connected to the pixies. Ash, Brock, and Dawn could feel when something bad happened to them. And when the pixies were in real trouble, the human trio teleported to them from Cynthia's Jeep right in the middle of Team Galactic's headquarters. Then when Ash, Brock, and Dawn saved them from the red crystal/chain the pixies allowed them to order them commands. Besides how are Raichu, Spoink, and Mantyke more notable? Raichu only got an episode while Spoink and Mantyke got very little screen time. How they are more notable then Riolu or Azelf is beyond me. --[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 02:25, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
:::My two cents: I think Ash's connection with Azelf is totally important, and I was very nearly about to side with you, but after thinking about it I figured that if Azelf were to be added, it would have to be in a "befriended" section. And if we gave Ash a "befriended" section, then we'd have to list ALL the Pokemon he befriended, and I think that alone could very well crash the server. (An exaggeration, but you get the point.) But their connection should still be mentioned - and I think it's possibly even important enough to be given its own paragraph in the "character" section, instead of just being added on to the paragraph about his connection with legendary Pokemon. I say this because there was buildup to this over the course of DP, and is thus monumental enough to have quite a bit said about it. The same goes for Dawn and Brock, and their respective pixies. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 02:47, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

== Ash's VA died ==

Ash's current German VA, Veronika Neugebauer, apparently died in 11th October [http://www.findadeath.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23926 Link]. Think it should be mentioned somewhere? [[User:J-J-M|'''J''']]'''-'''[[User talk:J-J-M|'''J''']]'''-'''[[Special:Contributions/J-J-M|'''M''']] 00:22, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
:...no. It could be an article on Bulbanews. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 00:23, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
::Yeah, I'd say news it. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:41, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
:::That is tragic and a person who works for pokemon should be recognized AT LEAST. - [[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 01:34, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
::::Well if it is to be mentioned, it shouldn't be later. It's already been quite some time since she died. [[User:J-J-M|'''J''']]'''-'''[[User talk:J-J-M|'''J''']]'''-'''[[Special:Contributions/J-J-M|'''M''']] 14:37, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::There's a template on Bulbanews that says "this article was made late". [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 17:35, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
::::::Let's do it up. - [[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 19:09, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

== DP156- Protection Request! ==

The title has been revealed, so i think Ash's Page should be protected, along with the episode as well. thanks- [[User:BAC510]] 21 November 2009, 18:39 (UTC)
:Don't forget the Gible page. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 18:44, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
::If someone ruins it for everyone else, then we'll do it then. Why inconvenience the other editors? —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 06:35, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

== Ash's befriended pokemon ==
someone that knows more about editing the pages should put a full list of all legendary pokemon ash has encountered and befriended {{unsigned|Refresh12}}
:Bulbapedia does not list the vast number of Pokémon Ash has befriended simply because there are so many. The only main character who gets a "befriended" section is [[Max]] on account of him having no Poké Balls. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:54, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
::There's already a list of the legendaries he has a connection with in the actual text anyway. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 14:16, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

== VA list ==

The bit about [[Jamie Peacock]] should be edited to say ''(first dub only)'' next to the Mastermind part, to avoid confusion. [[User:Flicky|Fli]][[User talk:Flicky|cky]][[Special:Contributions/Flicky|1991]] 20:22, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

== Is it possible? ==

To protect only the Pokémon section of this article? Just to prevent people from unhiding the you-know-what.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 02:56, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
:No. If it becomes a problem, the whole article will have to be protected. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:39, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

== Hoenn Lineup Trivia ==

Should it be noted that each of the Pokémon Ash caught in Hoenn was weak to the type of the Pokémon that was placed on his Hoenn line up before it? If that didn't make sense, here is a bit better/ easier way of explaining it: Pikachu/Electric > Tailow/Flying > Treecko/Grass > Corphish/Water > Torkoal/Fire > Snorunt/Ice. If its notable enough, then could an administrator add it?--[[User:Skystar|Skystar]] 20:30, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
:He did this in every region, if I remember correctly.--'''[[wp:Wikipedia|Wiki]]'''[[User:Tomas|''Tomas'']] 09:38, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
::Not Sinnoh. Ground/Flying isn't super effective against Ground/Dragon. In Kanto, he caught Muk then Tauros. In Johto he caught Totodile then Noctowl, and Water isn't strong against Flying/Normal. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 23:10, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

== Stub? ==
This article seems to be categorized as a stub. I assume this is some sort of mistake, but is there actually a reason? --[[User:Jared|Jared]] 05:14, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
:The "In the manga" section is stubbish --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 05:15, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
::Ok, that makes sense. I didn't notice the stub banner in the manga section, I just saw this article in the stub category. Thanks for the clarification. --[[User:Jared|Jared]] 05:39, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

== Ash's Legendary Friends ==
I couldn't find any edit button on Ash's page and I couldn't figure out how to contact the mods of this site, so I brought my question here; please let me know if this is not the place or if this is not how to get information.

I was reading Ash's page when I came suddenly to Ash's Legendary friends, it claims he has a close connection with Ho-Oh, Lugia, Latias, Azelf, Shaymin and Giratina. Where is Mewtwo? The two had a rough start but Ash also has a close connection to Mewtwo. Afterall, It was Ash who softened Mewtwo in the first movie and in the Pokemon Special: Mewtwo's Return, Mewtwo calls Ash and "Unique human, one of a kind." and they part by saying how they'll always remember each other. Mewtwo is also able to contact Ash even over long distances. I think Mewtwo should be added to that list of Ash's legendary friends. {{unsigned|Artbender}}
:Ash's page is currently protected due to upcoming anime things. Mewtwo's kinda... I dunno. I suppose you could say that he and Ash have a friendship, but as for any ability to contact Ash? Um. Wha? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 10:34, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
::I think he's talking about when Ash heard Mewtwo's voice at the end of Mewtwo Returns. Mewtwo may have just been hiding in the city somewhere, so who knows exactly how far away they were, but I recall reading somewhere on Bulbapedia that the city they then show Mewtwo watching over/hiding in resembles New York City, so it could be assumed that he was far away. But even if that part is left out, I'd definitely include Mewtwo as one of Ash's legendary friends. --[[User:Jared|Ja]][[User talk:Jared|red]] 22:35, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

Thank you, Jared! that's exactly what I ment. {{unsigned|Artbender}}
Mewtwo is not one of Ash's Legendary friends. At the end of movie 1, Mewtwo erases everyones memory, including Ash's. Ash does not remember Mewtwo, and Mewtwo does not use his telepathy to contact Ash at all... and that includes Mewtwo Returns. [[User:Pokemon26|Pokemon26]] 13:30, 19 July 2010

Yes he does. They become friends by the ends of Mewtwo Returns, and by what Ash says; "This time, we'll both remember." It suggests that Mewtwo gave Ash's memories of their first meeting back. [[User:Artbender|Artbender]] 04:55, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

== about gym battles ==

it is revealed that sunyshore gym battle will be in DP164 so please it is not 35 it is 37 episodes--[[User:Branfili|Branfili]] 17:55, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
:It is revealed that Volkner will ''appear'' in [[DP165]], but there is nothing confirming a gym battle, or badge acquisition. I guess the episode count should be changed at this point though - apparently it's said "35 episodes" for about three weeks now. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 19:04, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
The Gym battle (first time) is in DP 166. Sunyshore Gym will shut down because of a power outage during the battle. Volkner will ask Ash to come back when it is repaired. Ash says that he will use the time for more training. Ash comes back to Sunyshore in DP 179, where he has his battle and wins. That should be where the badge acquisition is. [[User:Pokemon26|pokemon26]] 13:24, 19 july 2010 [[User:Pokemon26|Pokemon26]] 13:25, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

== Identifying Genders ==

I was wondering if it would be a good idea to identify a Pokémon's gender (when confirmed) for a main character in the new link boxes. For example:

{| align="center" width="100%"
|-
| {{ActivePoké|Ash|Pikachu|Ash Pikachu HD.png|electric}} ♂
| {{ActivePoké|Ash|Buizel|Ash Buizel.png|water}} ♂
| {{ActivePoké|Ash|Gible|Ash Gible.png|dragon|ground}} ♂
|-
| {{InactivePoké|Ash|Bulbasaur|Ash Bulbasaur.png|grass|poison}} ♂
| {{InactivePoké|Ash|Bayleef|Ash's Bayleef.png|grass|fir=Chikorita}} ♀
| {{InactivePoké|Dawn|Ambipom|AshAipom.png|normal|disp=Aipom}} ♀
|}

Just this is the way it's displayed for the manga characters, so we might as well implement it for the anime characters as well. What does everyone think? [[User:Watchermark|Watchermark]] 12:56, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

:The problem is that most Pokémon in the anime don't have confirmed genders. Only.... 25% maybe. Give or take a few. And are you asking that we use the link boxes for ''only'' the ones that have been confirmed? Or use it for all, but keep the genders off? '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 13:30, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

::Keep the link boxes for all, but keep the genders off the ones that aren't confirmed. Ash's party would look like:

{| align="center" width="100%"
|-
| {{ActivePoké|Ash|Pikachu|Ash Pikachu HD.png|electric}} ♂
| {{ActivePoké|Ash|Staraptor|Ash Staraptor.png|normal|flying|fir=Starly|mid=Staravia}} ♂
| {{ActivePoké|Ash|Grotle|Ash'sGrotle.png|grass|fir=Turtwig}}
|-
| {{ActivePoké|Ash|Monferno|Ash Monferno.png|fire|fighting|fir=Chimchar}}
| {{ActivePoké|Ash|Buizel|Ash Buizel.png|water}} ♂
| {{ActivePoké|Ash|Gible|Ash Gible.png|dragon|ground}}♂
|}

[[User:Watchermark|Watchermark]] 14:24, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

:::Hmm... I think that'd be fine, but I'll ask Kenji anyways. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 22:34, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
::::I guess it's okay. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 22:40, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::I think Aipom's gender was already confirmed in AG (May stating "I guess Aipom's a girl after all"), and I think Nurse Joy explicitly referred to Bayleef as a she when examining her as a Chikorita. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 23:10, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::Yeah, we know. He was just talking about the ones that aren't confirmed. Ash's Squirtle, Misty's Politoed, etc. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 23:29, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::Ok, I'll start doing the main characters now (apart from Ash, since the page is protected until next week). [[User:Watchermark|Watchermark]] 00:28, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

:::::::Isn't Ash's Pikachu still unconfirmed as well, or did something new happen on that front? --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 02:45, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::::{{m|Attract}}ed to a female Togepi. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 02:47, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::Replace Monferno's pic with Infernape.--♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 12:18, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

:::::::::: Agreed --[[User:JasonTongRulz|Jason Tong]] 20:22, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

== Obsolete trivia ==

Could someone remove this?
The three Fire-type starter Pokémon Ash owns are each at a different evolutionary stage. Cyndaquil is in its first, Monferno its second, and Charizard its third.
Monferno evolved in the latest episode, so it's no longer true.
Also, if that was worthy of being mentioned, then perhaps it should be mentioned that Kingler is the only water-type Pokémon he's evolved so far.
--[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 08:41, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

:This is Obsolete and should be removed. I'm surprise no one tried to make a similar trivia saying that, "out of all the grass types he has"

:It should at least be changed to something more trivial and up to date. Like how Ash has never evolved a Water-type Starter to its final form, but has evolved one grass type and two fire types.

:Please will a mod remove the thing, or re-enable the edit feature. why is the edit feature even disabled? it makes it a hassle to do much of anything in terms of doing our jobs as editors and collaborators. [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 01:52, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
::The article is protected due to editors adding unverified information about Ash's Pokémon and future evolutions. It will be unprotected once all information has been officially confirmed (or denied). —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:08, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

== Hair color ==

Don't know if it was mentioned before, but anyone noticed Ash's hair has a greenish shade to it? It isn't just pure black so I think it should be put up in the infobox. [[User:J-J-M|'''J''']]'''-'''[[User talk:J-J-M|'''J''']]'''-'''[[Special:Contributions/J-J-M|'''M''']] 14:31, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
:Really? I think its black (as usual). --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 14:46, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
::Look at some of the movie 11 screenshots, especially at the ones where Ash's hair is wet. It looks distinctly green. [[User:J-J-M|'''J''']]'''-'''[[User talk:J-J-M|'''J''']]'''-'''[[Special:Contributions/J-J-M|'''M''']] 15:14, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Well I don't know about movie 11 but I noticed this thing in one scene from movie 12 (when Ash & co found some water melons in the water) ash's hairs were a bit green(ish) but it can be a wet animation effect too. What do you think? --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 15:24, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
::::Here are the movie 11 screenshots. It definitely looks green. [http://www.serebii.net/movies/giratina/pics14.shtml] [[User:J-J-M|'''J''']]'''-'''[[User talk:J-J-M|'''J''']]'''-'''[[Special:Contributions/J-J-M|'''M''']] 15:46, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::I am getting confused now :( --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 15:52, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::About the supposed "different" hair colors? [[User:J-J-M|'''J''']]'''-'''[[User talk:J-J-M|'''J''']]'''-'''[[Special:Contributions/J-J-M|'''M''']] 15:58, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Oh my god, and we were joking just a few days ago that someone would try disputing Ash's hair color next...
:::::::It's black. It is staying as black in the infobox. Some hints of dark green/blue? Sure, maybe, but it's not worth mentioning. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 19:27, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Can't believe that actually happened either..... but anyways. If you didn't notice, his hair only has a greenish tint when it's wet. That's normal for an anime to have a tint on wet hair, though it depends on the original color. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 22:27, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::Fine, but I guess it could go on trivia? [[User:J-J-M|'''J''']]'''-'''[[User talk:J-J-M|'''J''']]'''-'''[[Special:Contributions/J-J-M|'''M''']] 11:14, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::No, because it is common for wet hair to be tinted a different colour. That's how they show it's wet. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 11:15, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::::That sort of color "change" has never been shown for other characters before, especially in this show, so it is kinda notable. [[User:J-J-M|'''J''']]'''-'''[[User talk:J-J-M|'''J''']]'''-'''[[Special:Contributions/J-J-M|'''M''']] 11:59, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

== Noteworthy Or Not? ==
Is it worth noting that ash has died twice? Once in Movie One and Also in Movie 8 (He was consumed by the anti-bodies). --[[User:Manaphy1|Manaphy1]] 12:44, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
:3 Times (remember the gastly, haunter and gengar episode?) [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 17:10, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
::That wasn't dying in [[EP023]]. I forget where, but there's a whole discussion about it. And I wouldn't really count the antibodies in Movie 8. Yes, they consumed them, but they were in a sense, spit back out by the tree. That's debatable though... '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 04:32, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
::: So Shall I Add It then? --[[User:Manaphy1|Manaphy1]] 17:46, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
::::Nah. If we can prove that he died in Movie 8, then yes. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 04:16, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
Look people... Ash died in episode 023. A chandiler fell on him... if you had one fall on you, you would die too. Anime physics can only go so far. Ash did not die in movie 8... I watched that scene from my DVD of Lucario and the Mystery of Mew... he was only swallowed by the antibodies... that is it. [[User: Pokemon26|Pokemon 26]] 13:05, 19 July 2010 [[User:Pokemon26|Pokemon26]] 13:06, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

== Someone edit the Trivia section? ==
On the trivia section, it mentions Ash's Monferno. Considering its evolved, shouldn't someone change that. I tried but the page is protected :( [[User:Jake200493|Jake200493]] 16:23, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
:remember, new discussions go at the bottom of a talk page. and yes it should be changed. [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 16:31, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

== Satoshi's Pokemon on Pokeani ==

I've been going through and fixing broken Pokeani links, and I noticed that Ash doesn't have a link to his Pokeani list of Pokemon - and it seems he's the only main character who ''doesn't'' have such a link on his page. I'm assuming it's because his list of Pokemon [http://pokeani.com/poke/list/r_poke-satoshi1.html is broken into] [http://pokeani.com/poke/list/r_poke-satoshi2.html two different pages] (being such a massive list and all), but it kind of seems ridiculous that '''''ASH "JESUS H. CHRIST" KETCHUM''''' is the only one deprived of those links.

What do you guys think? Should they be added to the "external links" section (listed as "part one" and "part two" or something along those lines)?? [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 15:58, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

== Ash's Pokemon ==
I'm just wondering why Ash would go back to 4 Pokemon and not 6. Plus I don't believe the pokemon. On the other hand what do i know I don't come from Japan. -Lilkaykaygal
:The information in our articles is based on the most recently aired Japanese episode. --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 13:58, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
Oh ok then!-[[File:Spr 4h 151.png]][[User:lilkaykaygal|lilkaykaygal]][[File:Spr 4h 151.png]], 7:40, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
Ash went down to 4 because of the Suzaran Conference. He wanted to use his older pokemon. Notice that most of the ones he intends to use of his older crew are Johto pokemon, with the exception of Muk, Staraptor, Gible, Snorlax, and of Course, Pikachu. This coincides with Heartgold/Soulsilver. When Ash battles Paul (DP 186-187), he will probably have his full Sinnoh crew, but we shall see. [[User:Pokemon26|Pokemon26]] 13:14, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
But now he should have 6 as he will face Paul right?[[User:Patrickmck|Patrickmck]] 22:29, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

== What if we start doing this? ==

For those that we know are his main voice actors, (sometimes replaced by something important but usually come back to retake their role) we could outstand then with bold letters. I think it's a good idea, but discuss, please. (: [[User:YukitoOoO|YukitoOoO]] 18:01, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

===Voice actors===
{{vatable|color={{electric color}}|bordercolor={{electric color light}}
|ja=松本梨香 [[Rica Matsumoto]]
|en=[[Veronica Taylor]] ([[4Kids Entertainment|4Kids]] dub) [[Sarah Natochenny]] ([[The Pokémon Company International|TPCI]] dub) [[Kayzie Rogers]] (a/k/a Jamie Peacock; ''[[Mastermind of Mirage Pokémon]]'' only)
|zh_cmn=賀世芳 ''Hè Shìfāng'' 李明幸 ''Li Míngxìng'' 汪世瑋 ''Wāng Shìwěi''
|hr=Saša Buneta Marko Torjanac
|cs=Radek Škvor
|da=Mathias Klenske
|nl=Christa Lips
|fil=Klariz Magboo
|fr_ca=Sébastien Reding
|fr_eu=Aurélien Ringelheim
|de='''Caroline Combrinck''' ([[EP001]]-[[EP157]], [[DP105]]-present) Veronika Neugebauer(†) ([[EP158]]-[[DP104]])
|he=יהונתן מגון Yonatan Magon דניאל מגון Daniel Magon
|hu=Szvetlov Balázs Ungvári Gergely
|it=Davide Garbolino
|ko=최덕희 Choi Deok-Hyi 이선호 Lee Seon-Ho 안현서 An Hyeon-Seo
|no=Nils-Martin Crawfurd
|pl='''Hanna Kinder-Kiss''' ([[EP001]]-[[AG040]], [[DP053]]-present, all movies) Grzegorz Drojewski ([[DP001]]-[[DP052]])
|pt_br=Fábio Lucindo
|pt_eu=Maria João Luís Sandra Faleiro Sandra de Castro Unknown voice actress Cristina Carvalhal Bárbara Lourenço Ana Madureira
|es_la='''Gabriel Ramos''' Irwin Daayán ([[DP091]]-[[DP104]]) Emiliano Dionisi (movies [[M06|6]] and [[M07|7]])
|es_eu='''Adolfo Moreno''' Rafael Alonso Naranjo Jr. (movie [[M03|3]] and [[Mewtwo Returns]])
|sv=Dick Eriksson
|fi=Sari Moilanen Hanna Savikko
|ar=بثينة شيا Buthaina Shia
|ca=Enric Puig
|tr=Ahmet Taşar
}}

==Pokémon==

The Pokémon in the "With Prof. Oak" [[DP182|aren't]] with Prof. Oak. They are with Ash. -{{u|Caciulacdlac}}

== Ash was known as Casey during production of the dub? ==

I was watching Adventures in Voice Acting, and it featured Veronica Taylor and she said that his name was known as Casey.

Here's a clip, it's youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfQfgd1wAB4

Go to the 2:46 mark. Worth mentioning? I did not want to put it in till we got the ok to do it.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 22:31, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

:We should mention it. Just mention that she is not saying this on behalf of 4kids. The possibility that she is mistaken herself and that 4Kids might of had some other name for Ash. - '''[[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes]][[User talk:Vhayes1992|1992]]''' 18:50, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
::I put it in. I wonder if this was just a place holder, or this was going to be his real name. Casey means vigilant in some cultures, which means to watch out for danger, which makes sense as that's is one of the things he does in the series. This also makes me think that there might not have been a last name too.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 21:21, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

== Ash's Pokémon On Hand Box? ==

Hello I am a long time fan of Bulbapedia, brand new editor. I noticed something weird on Ash's page. In the page itself, in the section on what Pokémon Ash has On Hand, it has the Pokémon for next week's episode (Noctowl, Donphan and Gible), when he battles Conway. However, in the little box that is on the bottom of the page that is supposed to show the same thing, it has his Pokemon from last week's episode, when he battled Nando (Heracross, Quilava and Staraptor). It is likewise on all of the pages that link to Ash's page (i.e. on all of the pages of his Pokémon). Can someone fix this? I would do it myself, but like I said, I am brand new to editing and I don't know how.

--[[User:Jediknightdtv|JediKnightDTV]] 04:28, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

== Ash's On Hand Pokemon ==

I'm just thinking not to bother having an on hand section for Ash's Pokemon because it keeps changing. I think you should just have like maybe Ash's Pokemon but not write on hand or at Professor Oak's Lab. [[User:lilkaykaygal|lilkaykaygal]] , 12:10, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
:Nah, that will be confusing enough. The current pattern is perfect. The reason it keeps changing is because of on-going sinnoh league. Once it is over, it will be back to normal. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 12:15, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

== Staraptor is Missing ==

While this may already be fixed or is being fixed, I should point out that Staraptor is missing from Ash's Pokemon Party Sprite Template. You know the template that appears when you have Ash's Buizel open and it shows Ash's other Pokemon. it goes Glalie, Torterra, Infernape, and Buizel, but Staraptor is missing. In case this is already known, I apologize, I just wanted to let you know, just in case. --[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 04:16, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
:Fixed. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 04:34, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

== Casey's Beedril ==

Perhaps move this to temporary Pokemon? It was so minuscule and was for a contest, like Seaking. Having it listed on the template looks a little cluttered.--[[User:Cubic Question|Cubic Question]] 05:32, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

:There is one thing that distinguishes Beedrill from Seaking: Ash was actually allowed to keep the Beedrill as per the rules of the contest, whereas he couldn't keep Seaking. As such, Ash did officially own Beedrill, even if it was for about two minutes before he gave it away. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 16:07, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

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== Uh, Pat.... ==

"''Firered and Leafgreen was released on January 29, 2004-about 1 year, 5 months, and 23 days.''"
:That's definitely not notable enough to be in [[AG135]]'s trivia. What would be the point of having that there? And if you had bothered to be tidy, it would read:
"FireRed and LeafGreen were released on January 29, 2004; about 1 year, 5 months, and 23 days previous to this episodes first airing."--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 08:38, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
:Oh, sorry![[User:Patrickmck|Patrickmck]] 18:35, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

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