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Talk:Cubone (Pokémon)

2010-08-29T14:46:46Z

Origamiguy: /* I just realized... Oh my god It's true! */

Has anyone here ever given thought that in the anime and the games, that Pokémon can't die. Even in the movie, {{p|Celebi}} is revived. But here Marowak and Cubone wear the skulls of their DEAD mom. Am I the only one seeing this inaproppriate?--[[User:Machamp ion|Machamp ion]] 16:41, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
:...yes Pokémon can die...just not in gameplay, and occasionally in the anime. Latios, Lucario, and Darkrai are all dead. Also, in order to become a fossil, you need to die, and we have lots of Pokémon brought back through fossils.
:Pokémon can die. You, the player, just can't make them die yourself.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 17:04, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
::Well Lucario didn't DIE DIE, he just is in suspended animation. But I toatoly forgot about Latios, but how did Darkrai die? He didn't even make an appearance yet and he's dead? Whoa cruel.--[[User:Machamp ion|Machamp ion]] 17:09, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
:::Latios "sacrifices himself" to block that tsunami Annie and Oakley made. I'm pretty sure Darkrai ends up dead, anyway...--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 17:21, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
:::[[Dialga vs Palkia vs Darkrai]]. It appeared, just not outside of Japan yet. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 20:52, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
:I see you're all forgetting the most obvious death of all. The Marowak in Pokémon Tower. [[User:System Error|System Error]] 22:18, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
::And all of the other graves in Pokémon Tower. -[[User:Happy Mask Man|Happy Mask Man]] 22:49, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
:What gets me, personally, is that you can breed Cubone from other Cubone and I assume - though I haven't done it yet - that the mother doesn't die in the process. So, whence the skulls? But that's the same complaint as "whence the other two Magnemites?" and "whence the other Beldum, and then the other Metang?" - a quibble, more than anything else. (I assume the following is a signature. I've forgotten how to edit things.) --[[User:Kadrin|Kadrin]] 12:47, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
::The problem with Cubone is that the backstory it is given works for the one Cubone in the plot of Red and Blue but would be terribly inefficient if applied to the whole species. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 14:54, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
i took that backstory with a grain a salt. [[User:Boywonder01|'''Boy''']][[User talk:Boywonder01|'''wonder''']][[Special:Contributions/Boywonder01|'''01''']] 14:57, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
:Maybe it is just folklore... --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 16:13, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

::And besides, put Darkrai under Celebi. He's been revived too.[[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]][[User talk:BlueJirachi|WishMaker]] 14:59, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

::Isn't it possible that it's refering to the skull the mother used to wear as a Cubone, as opposed to say, its' actual skull? It's entirely possible and heck, even more likely that the mothers simply pass their old skulls down to their children as Marowak don't wear them any longer. The alternative would be Cubone being sad for it's mother, but then deciding to cut her head open and steal her skull to parade around as a fancy hat. The pokedex entry was likely referring to that one Cubone as far as the dead mother parts, but maybe not quite the way it sounded with the skull. -[[User:Flameblight|Flameblight]] 14:29, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

== The Skull ==

Ok, we know it wears the skull of it's dead mother, but which skull does it wear. Does it remove the helmet it's mother is wearing, or does it wear the skull right out of its mother's head?

If it wares the skull helmet of its dead mother, then if its mother is a Marowak someone (in the Pokémon word)surly must have seen a Cubone wearing a Marowak helmet unless they evolve straight to a Marowak.

If it wears the skull out of its dead mother's head, then the inner skull of a Cubone and/or Marowak must be shaped like the Skull helmet of a Cubone. That mean that even if the Cubone evolves, the helmet has only changed in the evolution and the skull in its head is still the shape of a Cubone Helmet.

So which is it. The helmet or the actual skull? [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 21:56, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
:My input here, but am I the only person who things would be a little... err, too grim for Nintendo if Cubone actually, at birth, rips open its mothers head, tears off it's skin, and rips out its skull, then wears the blood covered skull on its head? [[User:Takoto|~~Takoto]] - [[User_talk:Takoto|サソデイ]] 22:12, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
::Since Marowak is the Bone Keeper pokemon, I'd guess it probably holds onto the skull it wore as a Cubone somehow which gets passed down like an heirloom from mother to child or something. The mother Marowak may not ever actually WEAR her old skull anymore so much as just keep it...somewhere on her person and that boney-looking head is actually just that, the head since we've seen it move its' lower jaw when Marowak appear in the anime and it seems to be part of the upper gray head, unlike Cubone who has a separate-looking brown lower jaw. Just a guess though.--[[User:Flameblight|Flameblight]] 05:21, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

== I just realized... Oh my god It's true! ==

Or is it? I wouldn't know. Anyways, you ought to check this out, if it's true it's '''definately''' notable. LOOK!!! [http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=dmcs95&s=3] --[[User:Gen1king|'''GE''']][[User talk:Gen1king|'''N1''']][[Special:Contributions/Gen1king|'''KI''''''NG''']] 12:06, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
:Right....--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 12:20, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
::Speculation...and not really plausible. I couldn't see the connection. Oh, well. Time will tell.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 12:25, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
:::Without a statement from the game developers, we can't include that. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 19:22, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
::::This better not be true... [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 22:09, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::I know it's just speculation, but I do see a resemblence. I was wondering if someone knew if it had been confirmed, or something of the sort. I guess not... --[[User:Gen1king|'''GE''']][[User talk:Gen1king|'''N1''']][[Special:Contributions/Gen1king|'''KI''''''NG''']] 08:41, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
::::::I do agree with this. Needs more developer statement. Odd how it took us like 12 years to figure it out. http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/960099-pokemon-heartgold/51775952?page=1 Lold. [[User:PoketoaTheFirefox|PoketoaTheFirefox]] 18:57, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

:It is unconfirmed, but it is heavily rumored among the fandom that cubone evolves to kangaskhan, and thus is worth mention. [[User:Mikkim|Mikkim]] 05:10, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
:Except looking at their bulbapedia entries, neither of those sprites are there.'''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|f80|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|f80|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|fb0|gami}} [http://myfreegadget.blogspot.com/ :)]''' 14:46, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Cubone (Pokémon)

2010-08-29T14:46:27Z

Origamiguy: /* I just realized... Oh my god It's true! */

Talk:Shiny Pokémon/Archive 1

2010-03-31T15:55:58Z

Origamiguy: /* Shiny legendary pokémon? */

> can someone explain the ratio thing with the xor an everything? [[User:Squeela|this S**T will turn your mama white]] 16:18, 14 November 2008 (UTC)squeela[[User:Squeela| this S**T will turn your mama white]] 16:18, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

>In the TCG, shiny Pokémon are called "shining" Pokémon.

Yes and no. There's "shining" cards, "crystal" cards, and the new ones that don't have a collecive name but are denoted by a star on them (so are commonly called "stars" or "shining stars")- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Blackjack Gabbiani|Blackjack Gabbiani]] ([[User talk:Blackjack Gabbiani|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Blackjack Gabbiani|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''

:Crystal cards had the same Pokemon coloring as regular ones. "Shining" was the official name and i don't know why people use that crappy "shiny" word... --[[User:AtoMan|AtoMan]] 10:17, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

>If you evolve a shiny pokemon, will it stay shiny? [[User:Therequiembellishere|Therequiembellishere]] 19:05, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Yes, although sometimes the coloration of it will change. Shiny Charmeleon changes from off-red to a black Charizard, for instance. --[[User:Zeta|Zeta]] 21:05, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

It's the same as a red Charmeleon becoming an orange Charizard. Regular becomes regular, shiny becomes shiny. It's another status like the nature. [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 00:05, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry but the {{p|Kecleon}} seen in [[EP205]] is not a shiny pokémon. To my knowledge an alternate colored Kecleon is turquoise not purple. -- {{u|Kenji-girl}}

: If it's not a normally-coloured Pokémon it must, logically, be an alternately-coloured Pokémon. It doesn't matter if it doesn't match the precise alternate colouration of the games. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 10:45, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

::Technically, yes; "alternately colored" means, technically, it's simply a different color. "Shiny" is a different story, however. [[User:Urutapu|Urutapu]] 18:27, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

:Those purple Kecleon are like that because... they're Kecleon, simple as it sounds. Not sure how to word it in the article, but it's not surprising that a chameleon Pokémon can have color variations, either because the interpretation of its traits is to blend with its surroundings (field Kecleon, pinball, anime) or changing its type via {{a|Color Change}}. This is too similar to discussing [[Smeargle (Pokémon)#Pokédex entries|the Crystal Pokédex entry for Smeargle]] --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 20:54, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

==Breeding chance in Gen IV==
Though I haven't found any definite sources, apparently the odds of breeding a shiny pokemon to have a shiny offspring is 1/8192, as much as finding a regular shiny. Is this true? If so, this renders Shiny dittos practically useless. [[User:Razor|Razor]] 07:18, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

: As useless as shiny Pokemon are regularly, but yes. It's the same odds as it would be with a regular Pokemon. --[[User:Porygon|Porygon]] 09:44, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

::Though really, a shiny Pokémon is no more useless than a regular one, since it's no longer determined on stats. --'''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 17:44, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

the chances are exactly the same - its only in GSC that its a 1/64 of a shiny parents egg being shiny [[user: adambesthythe]]

== Shiny Pokemon ==

Would it be worth it if we put in a Section or even a whole new page that showed a normal Pokemon's sprite along with it's Shiny sprite image? [[User:Tesh|Tesh]] 17:11, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
I think it is a good idea because it would be interesting to see.[[User:Tesh|Tesh]] 10:05, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

== Include 4th Gen formulas? ==

I think this article should include the formulas for determining whether or not a pokemon is shiny from its MAP and OT IDs. Any objections? Also, the probability of obtaining a shiny in Gens 3/4 should be corrected to the correct value, 1/8192, not 2/65025. Where did that number come from, anyway?
--[[User:Reuvens|Reuvens]] 22:15, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
:I think the second number is the chance that a Pokémon will contract Pokérus. :/ Good idea, by the way. -- [[User:Umbee|Umbee]] 19:52, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
I think I've found the source of this ridiculous number, after a little bit of futzing. 256^2 is 65536, and the chance of encountering a shiny is 8/65536. However, 255^2 is 65025, and so it's possible that someone hit a wrong button on their calculator when trying to calculate chances. Unfortunately, I doubt that figuring any of this out is going to change the fact that a whole bunch of people are now misreporting the odds as 2/65025 simply by virtue of it previously being on Bulbapedia. Hopefully it'll die out soon.-- [[User:Reuvens|Reuvens]] 01:12, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

<strike>The chance is not 8/65536 (1/8192), but '''8 in 65536''', or '''8/(65536-8)''' (or 1/819'''1'''). That makes the chance 0.0001220852154804053% instead of 0.0001220703125%.</strike> Not much of a difference, but if such an insanely precise percentage is given, it should be accurate. Also the 2-10 isn't right, 8/65536 is 2-13. I'm correcting this both here and on [[Personality value]] --[[User:En-Cu-Kou|En-Cu-Kou]] 20:20, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

:Well if the chance of something is '''1 in 10''' it mathematically IS a 10% chance (which is 1/10. 1in10= 10%= 0.1= 1/10). <strike>You are saying that '''1 in 10''' is 1/(10-1) which simplifies into 1/9 (just like you said 1/(8192-1) simplifies to 1/8191) ) which is 10.11..% (1/9= 10.11..%= 0.11..). 10%≠10.11..%. So ''you'' are also saying that if something is a 1 in 3 chance it is a 1/(3-1) chance (which simplifies to 1/2, 1/2 is 50%--1/3 is 33.33%).</strike> If I have a jar with 3 different colored (red,pink,blue) marbles the chance of getting a pink is 1/3 (33.33%), blue is 1/3 (33.33%), and red is 1/3 (33.33%). All three percents add up to 100% and fractions add up 1 (3/3=1).<strike> If each was 50% like ''you'' were saying it would add up to 150% and 1.5 (3/2=1.5).</strike> And I was gonna round those decimal numbers on those pages, I just forgot. --[[User:Sivart345|Sivart]][[User talk:Sivart345|3]][[Special:Contributions/Sivart345|4]][[User:Firestorm|'''5''']] 22:47, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
::<strike>Nobody agrees with me?</strike> Wow, I just realized that when I wrote the chance of shininess in the pages (before En-Cu-Kou changed them) that I ''did'' write 2-10 instead of 2-13 (even though I knew it was the latter one) (guess he was right in changing that). [[User:Sivart345|Sivart]][[User talk:Sivart345|3]][[Special:Contributions/Sivart345|4]][[User:Firestorm|'''5''']] 19:02, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
::Oh man. Yes, you're right. I'm sorry for messing this up. --[[User:En-Cu-Kou|En-Cu-Kou]] 19:59, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
:::It's all cool. I crossed out the 'incorrect data' in our comments. [[User:Sivart345|Sivart]][[User talk:Sivart345|3]][[Special:Contributions/Sivart345|4]][[User:Firestorm|'''5''']] 20:43, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

== Shiny Egg? ==
If a shiny pokemon has an [[Pokémon egg|egg]], will the pokemon that hatches from the egg be shiny? [[User:Theryguy512|Ryguy]]
:In Generation II, there was a sort of "gene" system where a shiny's offspring would more likely be shiny. However, Generation III got rid of that system. You have the same chances of finding a wild shiny as hatching a shiny, whether the parent was shiny or not.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 22:32, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

==It was the legendary Red Snorlax==
Look, I know Shiny Snorlax are blue, but the Snorlax in [[SS012|''Training Daze]]'' was the legendary Red Snorlax. It wasn't a real Snorlax, because it turns out in the end that the Snorlax was [[Viper]], the Drill Sergeant of the [[Team Rocket Academy]] in disguise.

== Mystery Dungeon Shinies ==

Rumor has it that you can get shinies in Mystery Dungeon 2... specifically, a shiny Celebi mission or something. Anybody have Time Version to back this up? [[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|The]][[Kirlia (Pokémon)|Kirlia]] ♥ [[Image:281MS.gif]] 21:52, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

*You can't get shinies in PMD2, however, you do come across a Shiny Celebi in the future world in the main plot of the game. Otherwise, no, you can't get them. --[[User:Jonouchi|Ricco]] 15:27, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

==Fossils==
Can the revived fossils in Gen IV be shiny if you try enough? Or is it preset when you first give the guy the fossil? [[Image:Ani164MS.gif]][[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny]][[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|?]][[Special:Contributions/Shiny Noctowl|!]] 01:17, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
:If by "try enough" you mean "give him enough fossils". I think it's preset when you give him the fossil, so just save before doing so, give him the fossil, run out, back in, see if it's shiny, soft reset, repeat. '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:29, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

== Shiny ditto ==

If you have a ditto that is shiny and it uses transform does the pokéemon it transforms into be shiny?--[[Image:Ani052MS.gif]][[Image:Ani300MS.gif]][[Image:Ani431MS.gif]][[User:kittenchild|kittenchild and her discovery]][[Image:Ani264MS.gif]] 01:24, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
:Yes. However, if the Pokémon you trasform into is shiny, and Ditto/Mew is not, it'll be regular. {{ani|281}}[[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Sandbox|☆]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Favorites|♥]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]][http://freewebs.com/thepixelcafe δ]{{ani|282}} 01:26, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

will it bread shinny Pokemon? [[User:Cerberus|Cerberus]]
:No. That's only in {{gen|II}}, unfortunatly. I kept breeding my Vaporeon with a shiny Wooper, in hopes that I'd get a shiny Eevee, but 150 eggs later I gave up. Fail! :p [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 16:05, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

No. <big>{{ani|486}}[[User:Tesh|'''TESH''']]{{ani|377}}[[User Talk:Tesh|'''TALK''']]{{ani|378}}[[User:Tesh/Other|'''FUN''']]{{ani|379}}</big> 16:05, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Rats. [[User:Cerberus|Cerberus]] 13:56, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

== Starly clock ==
Wasn't the clock Dawn owned in [[DP001]] a shiny starly??? --[[Image:Spr 3e 059.gif|70px]][[Image:Spr 3e 132.gif]]'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Games|2]]''' [[Image:Trozeiani025.gif]] 01:29, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

So would shiny Noctowl be 光るヨルノズク? [[Image:164sMS.png]][[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny]][[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|?]][[Special:Contributions/Shiny Noctowl|!]] 20:38, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
:Hikaru Yorunozuku? I think so. Google's translation officially says "lucent". however. '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:36, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
::I wouldn't trust Google's translations if my life depended on it. :[--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 05:30, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

== The Prima guides ==

As well as using other non-explicit terms from the game such as [[Effort values]], Volume 2 of the Diamond & Pearl Prima guide mentions ''shiny Pokémon'' and even mentions the possibility of getting those Pokémon easily via the [[Poké Radar]]. I know those guides are authorized by Nintendo because they are sold by [[Pokémon Center (store)|PokemonCenter]]. However, how much of the content is "official"? --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 20:54, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

== Question for G/S/C ==

...do you need a shiny Ditto to pass on shiny genes, or does it work for any shiny '''in Gold and Silver'''? Right now, I'm breeding a male Red Gyarados with a female Dratini, so I can get a shiny one, but halfway through riding on the bike through Route 34 and Goldenrod, I forgot whether shininess is only passed down through a Ditto, or any shiny. Bah! If someone could clear this up for me, it'd be appreciated! [[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/TinaTheKirlia|δ]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]]{{MS|281|Kirlia}} 18:49, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
:Hmmm... I think the shiny gene is passed through any shiny Pokémon. A shiny Ditto is widely used for breeding shinies because it can breed with anything. [[User:Tesh|'''TESHIGIGAS''']] 18:54, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
::Shinyness IS passed on thru anything in GSC. 1/64 chance if both parents are shiny, and 1/256 chance if one is shiny.

== question ==

i have a question
in gen IV, will every trainer see a shiny pokémon ssoner or later?
i had a green and blue tentacool once, but i erased my file
am i done for shiny pokémon?

idk but once i saw a shiny Girafarig once . and i also hatched a shiny happiny. from that happiny egg from the hiker and it was shiny, but once it evolved it was regular. has this ever happened before on pokémon game history, or is it my game, or is it a glitch????0.o

No, you aren't. It's just hard to find a shiny Pokémon. Remember that there is a very small chance of finding one. -Metagross72
:Math says yes.Out of every 65536 pokemon you see, at least 8 of the m should be shiny[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|DCM]]
:Shinies evolve into shinies. Maybe you just thought it was. Another thing could be due to the fact that Chansey and Blissey's shiny sprites aren't spectacularly different from the regulars. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:06, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

==Foreign Aid==

"rare colored Pokemon's Egg can be found little easier"

That line is from http://www.gamefreak.co.jp/blog/dir_english/?p=30 . It talks about the GTS and the benefits of using Pokemon from another country. Among these is "Rare Colored Pokemon's Egg can be found little easier." I'm surprised it isn't noted here yet... does anyone have any additional information?--[[User:PikamasterADV|PikamasterADV]] 04:44, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

OH MY GOD YOURE FREAKING RIGHT!!!! I was surfing on the net and then found this videos!! you gotta watch them!!! this is gonna make us all have shiny pokemon in seconds!!! THANK YOU SOOOO MUCH for mencioning that, I would never know it!! Thank you!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDM6YTICYdA&feature=Responses&parent_video=cqsch18fnG4&index=1 [[User:YukitoOoO|YukitoOoO]] 20:05, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

==I luv Mathmatics==
Someone help me please... I don't understand those complex formulas (sorry). Can someone explain me in english this thing? If I catch a pokemon 25 times (all of them with different personalities) will 1 be shiny or not? [[User:Hfc2x|Hfc2x]] 18:52, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
:The answer is simple. No. It's a one out of 8192 chance of being shiny, not 1 out of 25. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]{{MS|281|Kirlia}} 19:15, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
::But what does a pokemon need to be shiny? (that was the correct question :P) how does the personality affect that? [[User:Hfc2x|Hfc2x]] 19:46, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
:::The personality value is a hidden value anyway; it's not the ''nature''. It determines it, like it determines gender, Wurmple's evolution, and so on. But they're all unrelated. Shininess is also determined by the Trainer's ID number, I believe. So there's likely very few possible gender/final form/nature combos for a shiny Wurmple. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]][[Image:Ani155MS.gif|Fire echy]]''' 20:15, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

== Shiny ==

If a Pokemon is shiny, would it have higher stats than a normal Pokemon, or would they just be just another Pokemon, but a different color? [[User:Zapdos|Zapdos]] 20:58, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
:Only in GS it would have different ("better") stats. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]{{MS|281|Kirlia}} 21:03, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
::Not really "better", just "specific" stats. It'd have all 10's except in Def. and Sp.Def, I think, while the max is 15. In Gen III and IV, though, it has the same random stats any Pokémon does. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]][[Image:Ani155MS.gif|Fire echy]]''' 22:13, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
::: Now that I think about it, shinies in [[Generation II]] aren't all that good. Defense, Speed, Sp. Atk and Sp. Def EVs will be about 10% better, and HP is either average or about 50% worse. --[[User:JDigital|JDigital]] 06:58, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

== Alternate Colouration ==

Shouldn't this link here? Not everyone here uses American English ([[User:GT4GTR|GT4GTR]] 02:43, 4 May 2008 (UTC))
:yes. done. i was talking about this the other day with another user. any more of these, you tell me, i can take care of it in a jiffy. (and other people too really) -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 03:01, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

==Weedle==
wait there was a weedle in the ultimate test that was colored green. is that worth metioning? [[User:ShinyMedicham]]

== Red number colour in Gen IV? ==

I have been Pokésaving some Pokémon so that they are shiny. Can anyone confirm that if the Pokémon is shiny, the colour of the number in their summary page is red?[[User:GJPal|GJ]] 01:29, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
:My shiny Pokémon have red Pokédex numbers, and they aren't hacked. --[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 01:36, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
::Alright, thank you. I just wanted to make sure it wasn't a mistake I made while hacking.[[User:GJPal|GJ]] 01:40, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

== Breeding chance in Gen II ==

I noticed that it says there is as high as a 1/64 chance of breeding a shiny Pokémon in Gen II. I recently hatched 5 eggs in my Silver version. I used a shiny male Gyarados (from the Lake of Rage) and a female Dragonite. When all 5 eggs hatched I had 2 male and 3 female Dratini. The weird thing was that 2 females were shiny. If the chances are really 1/64 than the odds of that happening are about 1/430. With only 5 samples, its not enough info to say whether this was just luck or maybe our hypotheses about breeding need to be looked over. Any thoughts? [[User:Stewy5714|Stewy5714]] 15:31, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

:Lucky. I doubt that means the chances are different.--[[User:Starlight the ampharos|Starlight the ampharos]] 17:48, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

== Shiny legendary pokémon? ==

Is it possible to get a shiny legendary without cheating or a promotional event? Or are all normally obtainable legendaries a fixed color?

:Legendary Pokémon have the same rate of being shiny as any other Pokémon. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 16:26, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

:You just have to try a few times until you battle a shiny legendary... well a little more than a few times LOL xD '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 03:19, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

When is the shininess or nonshininess of a legendary decided? When you battle the legendary or before? i.e. if I battle a legendary, lose, turn off the game, whaever, and reload, would there be a chance of it being an alternate color the second time?

It really is not worth trying. Do you have any idea how long you would potentially have to play? You could play for three weeks without sleep of constantly battling the legendary, turning the game off and all that and still not get that shiny legendary. The chace is 1 in 8192....that doesn't mean you can battle it 8191 times and 8192nd one with DEFINATELY be shiny. Its a 1 in 8192 chance every time. Whenever I come across someone with a shiny legendary, it's common sense to assume they hacked it.[[User:Bttsstewart|Bttsstewart]] 05:50, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

: :( I got a legit Shiny Heatran after 2 hours. It's definitely possible. --12:12, 16 April 2009 (UTC)[[User:~Poke~|~Poke~]]

I'll take your word for it but when someone battles you, they'll assume it's hacked...That must have taken ages, but you won't get any credit for it. Too bad....:-( [[User:Bttsstewart|Bttsstewart]] 09:23, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
: [http://www.gamefaqs.com/portable/ds/file/960099/57737 this guide] (section G002) suggests that Legendary personality values are set when the game is started (i.e., save file created), but I'm not sure that's true. The page doesn't mention it so i'll assume it's false, but does anyone know for certain?

== Kecleon ==

Why is Kecleon mentioned here? Read the Pokédex description. It's perfectly normal for a Kecleon to be any colour, as long as its zigzag is red. It's normal behaviour for a Kecleon. --[[User:Someone Else|Someone Else]] 00:37, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
:Due to body camouflage. The purple one is most certainly not camouflaging. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:10, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

== Orange Islands ==

Is it worth mentioning the Pokémon from the Orange Islands in the Animé? Some of the Pokémon were coloured (and patterned) differently so would that count? --☆[[User:Woodland Mudkip|Woodland:M]] ☆ 10:05, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

:Not really.--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''Pika''']][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|'''chu!''']] 10:05, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

::Do you mean the pink ones? If so, then no, they don't count. They weren't shiny. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|electAbuzzzz]] ([[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|TALK]]) 10:08, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Maybe! They might be referring to the Vileplume and Butterfree in Pokéball Peril--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 12:05, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
:Yes - I mean the Pokémon at professor Ivy's lab. She said they were different due to the climate or something. This article doesn't just talk about shinies so it seems relevant. --☆[[User:Woodland Mudkip|Woodland:M]] ☆ 22:51, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
::Remember guys, who makes the rules... THE GAMES! This article exist because of the shiny Pokémon exist in the games, and THEN they existed in the anime. The orange islands Pokémon are not the same as shiny, so it's not relevant to put it in the article. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 00:05, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Since when? We mention the purple Kecleon yet its not in the games. This doesn't mean "shiny only". It means Pokémon that are a color that they aren't usually. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 02:07, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

== Reliability of sprites? ==

Just an odd question; are the shiny sprites for each Pokémon completely legitimate? I remember when I was younger playing Crystal version I found a red Caterpie, though Caterpie are said to be gold whilst shiny. My friend also tells me she has a maroon Luvdisc, although I don't know how reliable that information is since I've never seen it. [[User:Gabbie|Gabbie]] 00:05, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
:All sprites have been taken from inside the game data (at least the ones which I've uploaded), so I can tell you they're reliable. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 00:44, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

I can hack games and see the sprites in the roms and each Pokémon only gets one normal sprite and back sprite and one shiny sprite and back sprite and none of the sprites you say exist are in any Pokémon games.Darkmaster0 00:57, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

The colours could be messed up by a glitch. I've seen a glitched yellow and green Remoraid before, even though they're usually either blue or purple. -- [[User:Umbee|Umbee]] 21:56, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

I too used to have a red Caterpie on Crystal... [[User:Me, Hurray!|Me, Hurray!]] 15:03, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

== Sprites missing ==

Here are a few facts that surprised me. We don't have shiny sprites for {{p|Goldeen}} or {{p|Torchic}}!

Also, not so surprisingly, we don't have sprites for Shiny Unowns BCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ!?, but this is understandable, as we have hardly any Unown sprites at all.

Do the sprites not exist or were they simply missed? [[User:Gligar|Gli]][[User talk:Gligar|gar]] 19:52, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

:Not all sprites have been uploaded. It's simply work in progress. You're welcome to help upload missing sprites - I upload some every once in a while... --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|electAbuzzzz]] ([[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|TALK]]) 19:54, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

== Pokemon Stadium ==

This says they could have "slightly" different colors. xD That made me laugh. The color variations in Stadium and (especially) Stadium 2 could be anywhere from miniscule to OUTRAGEOUS. I swear on Tajiri's grave I had a female Nidoran (actually Spot, from the boy south of Cerulean) who throughout her life looked male on Stadium 2. As a Nidoqueen, this became far worse than ever before, as she became a perfect shade of Nidoking purple with the teal ears, and a lighter creamy pastel teal for her face/torso accents. x3 Spot was awesome, lol. Incidentally, as the same NidoranF could be obtained on any Red or Blue, I tried it with a couple different game paks and never got another with her colors.

Poliwag were another one that was awesome. Typically for me, their skin ranged from teal to bright purple, while their lips could be any color of the rainbow. xD I had two full boxes on Stadium 2 of stored Poliwag just seeing how many different ones I could find. x3 Man, good ol' Stadium, neh? [[User:Heart of Thorns|Heart of Thorns]] 07:29, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
:Ahha. I haven't played Stadium in a very long time, but damn do i remember the strange colors some would come out with. I might have had a glitchy game or something, i mean, if i remember rightly i had a yellow-y green Charmander at some point *sighs* Ah, good times. [[User:Takoto|~~Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 09:17, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

== Ho-Oh Error ==

"The first Pokémon with its official alternate coloration seen was also the first Generation II Pokémon to be seen, a Ho-Oh seen by Ash in the first episode."

This sentence, from the way I read it, seems to claim that the first shiny Pokémon in the anime to match its alternate coloration in the games is the Ho-Oh in the first episode. Correction: Ho-Oh was covered entirely in a golden aura; We have no way of telling whether this is actually an alternate coloration or not. While one could argue that the colors we do see are not the same as its regular colors in-game, the depicted coloration isn't identical to its "official" shiny form either. It's just a Ho-Oh with a fully golden appearance due to the aura surrounding it. [[User:Marlowe|Marlowe]] 03:42, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

= I agree, There is no evidence that it was 'officially' "alternate colored" (however you Americans spell colour) ([[User:GT4GTR|GT4GTR]] 23:11, 25 December 2008 (UTC))

==Shiny Issue==
There is also a shiny Seaking in the FR/LG Trainer Tower, as shown in another page in Bulbapedia. The problem is, I can't undo the little box around it, and I didn't do anything to add it. Please just remove that, and it'll be good. Thanks,--[[User:Mence Master|Mence Master]] 01:04, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
EDIT: Disregard, it undid it by itself. Or another user helped out, but whatever, it's good now.
:For the record, that happens when you place a space before text:
like so.
[[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 01:10, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Okay,thanks.

Now onto that little Toxicroak Debate.

==Toxicroak Debate==
There was a blue one in Giratina and the Sky Warrior.
And no, it wasn't JUST the filter. It was the Toxicroak's coloration.
[http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk284/SRkid/Picture3.png]
If you look closely, it is blue.
::Actually, that really looks like the filter. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 15:12, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

:::I don't really think the filter is causing the Toxicroak to look normal-colored. I seriously believe that, behind the filter, lies an honest-to-goodness normal-coloration Toxicroak. Trust me, I don't think putting a filter of that color over a Toxicroak colored like Saturn's would result in that coloration...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 15:15, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
::::Hmm, it does look like SP252 was right...where is this Toxicroak in the whole movie anyway...? '''[[User:Optimatum|Θρtιmαtum]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]] 15:19, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::I think that would be the intro. But this doesn't mean that the other Toxicroak are definitely shiny. [[User:Jmath|'''Jm''']][[User talk:Jmath|'''a''']][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|'''th''']] 17:45, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::Well, there's a Torterra there too, and is THAT blue?--[[User:Mence Master|Mence Master]] 21:50, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
::Ah, this isn't objective proof, however. If the Toxicroak was in a normal appearance, and not floating around under idle showcasing for points unknown, there could be an argument (but no, not really). Instead, I can point out that the color filter does make some of the pokémon look off-color. That Bibarel just before is practially ''rosy'' compared to its normal brown, and Bonsly is a faint gold-green instead of its normal brown (not that I'm saying Toxicroak is affected by this; the difference would have been slighter and not several shades removed). That, and there's no way of saying that neither production teams didn't take liberties: series folk made its normal form with the shiny variation, and movie folk either ignored that or didn't realize and used its normal colors as they should be.

::Again, this isn't proof. At all. You're looking for ordinary coloring in the series. Movies don't cut it to make your argument, since the animation and those behind it are vastly diferent as a whole. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 14:11, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

:::First of all, that picture looks like crap. You can't tell anything from it. I saw the perfect quality version of the movie and it still looks like the coloration of Saturns. Shiningpikablu252, give it up already! It's NOT shiny. It's the anime colors, and learn to accept it. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 04:01, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

== Alternate coloration or shiny ==

Which is correct? Because by defenition, Alternate coloration means differently colored. Any Pokémon that's not it's original color should be in a page about '''DIFFERENTLY COLORED ''' Pokémon. Shiny is the unaverage coloration of a Pokémon in a Pokémon game, if im not mistaken. I think this page should have a different name (Like "Shiny Pokémon") [[User:ShinyPikachu|ŚĥîΠŶPî₭₳ĉĥŭ]] 02:28, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

: "Alternate Coloration" Is the offical term used in-game. "Shiny" is the fanmade term. In a wiki that's supposed to be informative, the offical term takes precedence over fanmade ones. [[User:PDL|PDL]] 03:46, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
::"Shiny" is also an official term :
::http://www.pixenli.com/image1237763589075416100.html [[User:Froggy25|Froggy25]] 23:14, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
:::See [http://www.pokemon.com/#mailbag_03122009 here].--'''[[User:Prmatt11|''Mew'']]* [[User talk:Prmatt11|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Prmatt11|Prmatt11]]'''at 17:48, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

== Shiny Metagross or Noctowl ==

OK, Instead of having an edit war. Talk about it in the discussion. Its easier and better.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 22:40, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
:Noctowl already has a page; I say Metagross. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Is teh Pedia laggin 4 u 2?]] 22:44, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
::Why does it matter if it 'already had a page'??? It's still the most commonly known shiny, and shows the whole body of the Pokémon, not just the face. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User Talk:Theryguy512|512]]''' 22:45, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
:::Anyone can see the {{AP|shiny Noctowl's|Noctowl}} and page see the pic there. We would like to give chance to others that doesn't have their own page, such as shiny Metagross and Donphan. Theryguy also has a point; we should show the whole body, not just the face. '''►[[User:Kevzo8|Ҝə]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|υz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|ø8]]''' 22:52, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
::::We do need a better pic.... [[User:J-J-M|'''J''']]'''-'''[[User talk:J-J-M|'''J''']]'''-'''[[Special:Contributions/J-J-M|'''M''']] 22:58, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

== Shiny egg sent to a different game ==

If Shinyness it determined by personality value and trainer/secret ID what happens if you bred a shiny egg in one game, reset the game to before it hatched and traded to another game. The Pokémon will have a new OT so would the game recalculate it's shinyness based on the new trainer/secret ID or will it remember it was shiny in the other game and therefore hatch shiny? [[User:Jmvb|Jmvb]] 16:39, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
:It recalculates, since the Shiny condition is determined by the {{tt|OT's|hatching Trainer's}} Trainer & Secret IDs, and then the personality value. While the personality value is determined when the egg is received from the Day Care Man, the other parts of the equation depend on who hatches it. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<sc>Kogoro</sc>''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<sc>Talk to me</sc>''']] - 16:53, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

== {{p|Jigglypuff}}??? ==
Aren't [[Little Pink]] and the {{p|Jigglypuff}} from [[AG138]] shiny??? They both have green eyes just like their shiny forms.
<gallery perrow=3>
File:Marina.gif|[[Little Pink]]
File:AG138 126.jpeg|The {{p|Jigglypuff}} from [[AG138]]
File:Spr 4d 039 s.png|A shiny {{p|Jigglypuff}}
</gallery>
--'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User Talk:Theryguy512|512]]''' 00:37, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
:[[Jigglypuff (Pokémon)#Trivia|It isn't really a unique thing...]]--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[User talk:RexRacer|Racer''']] 00:41, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
::But still, they're not the normal coloration like {{an|Jigglypuff|a regular Jigglypuff}}. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User Talk:Theryguy512|512]]''' 01:06, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

== That Table.... ==

I say we update it a bit more, Why don't we add the pictures of the shiny Pokémon in the table? Or will this be a major flop?--[[User:Force Fire|FF]]([[Special:Contributions/Force Fire|edits]]•[[User talk:Force Fire|talk]]) 06:51, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
:Do it. Roundycorners as well. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 07:02, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
::done. Images need to be added.--[[User:Force Fire|FF]]([[Special:Contributions/Force Fire|edits]]•[[User talk:Force Fire|talk]]) 07:24, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

== Shiny Ditto ==

Will a shiny ditto transform into shiny subjects?

== Mewtwo's Color, and i'm not colorblind ==

In mewtwo's alternate color sprites its green, but my alt color mewtwo is black.
Granted i got it through a brainboy, it still should be green shouldn't it?

I mean i get a pink/purple Celebi and all the other pokemon are what they should be, but why is mewtwo black? Its even black in Stadium II.

So what's up, even if the sprites somehow got messed up, how would it make the stadium mewtwo black as well. Did who ever rip the sprites somehow mess up the colors? [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 20:16, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
:For some reason, a shiny Mewtwo appears black in Stadium 2. I've noticed this as well a long time ago. I'm not sure of the reasons though. Color coding problems maybe. Would make interesting trivia though. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 20:23, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
:: Its not just stadium though, it was on all three games (G/S/C) for me. Why would it appear on the GBC screen as black as well?

:: I would add that but every time i try to add something, someone usually tries to remove it often playing the speculation card even thought a vast majority of whats on here is left to speculation. [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 20:37, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Believe me. I had a shiny Mewtwo in GSC through my own stupidity. It's green, Yami. You can't deny game sprites. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:41, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

::::I'm not debating it, I'm just wondering why mine were black on both the GBC screen and stadium 2 in both the 3D stadium and during Gameboy Mode. I'm not sure how we obtained these sprites, but could there have been some corruption either on the ripper of the sprites end. Or is its on my end because i mutated a red gyarados into the mewtwo. [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 20:47, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::I can't explain that... I just know that Mewtwo is black in Stadium 2 3D. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 20:49, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

:::::So should we add that little trivia, i mean we have you and me who can vouch for Mewtwo being black in the stadium 2. [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 20:54, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
::::::Yeah I'll do it. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 20:58, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

:Unlike most others, I might know the reason to this. While I don't know how it works in the Generation II games, I know how it works in the Gen III games, and it should hypothetically work in a similar way in the Gen II games. Anyways, due to the data structure in those games, a sprite can oly have accessibility to a certain, preprogrammed combination of 16 colors at a time. Due to this, there are over 1500 (!) combinations of colors possible, for each sprite, and also has the positions of their colors possible. While the data normally gives the Pokémon, upon first encounter, it gives them combination #596, the normal color, with a slight chance of combination #597, the alternate color, appearing. If the game is hacked or cheated to let a Pokémon of another combination appear it will, ofcourse, appear in that color. Hypothetically, it should work in a similar way in the Gen II games. If so, there's a possibility is that they added all thos colors to Stadium to prevent crashing the game if that Pokémon would be sent to it. - ''unsigned comment from {{u|Pokémon Lover King Mario}} ([[User talk:Pokémon Lover King Mario|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pokémon Lover King Mario|contribs]]) ''

== Mesuda Method ==

I have been seeing things on the web about the "Masuda Method". Supposedly the chance of receiving a shiny pokemon is 1/2048 when you hatch an egg if the parents are from different countries. I have no proof of this, however as it is not on the talk pages yet, I was wondering if anyone here could confirm whether this is true or not. The original post that started this is here http://www.gamefreak.co.jp/blog/dir_english/?p=30. - ''unsigned comment from {{u|Link3710}} ([[User talk:Link3710|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Link3710|contribs]]) ''
:We actually have an article about that. I should know, {{tt|I wrote most of it|so if it's wrong let me know - I haven't experienced this for myself}}! It just isn't linked to by anywhere yet.... I'll get to it xD — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 08:30, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

== Colosseum and XD ==
Is it possible for the pokemon you snag in Pokemon Colosseum and Pokemon XD to be Shiny? If so, how is it indicated on the status screen and when they are released. I was so convinced my Growlithe in XD was shiny but it was just a light color and ultraballs give yellow goldy orange stars when they are released... it really bummed me out because I thought it was the first shiny I have ever seen and Owned... -- [[User:D558|D558]] 00:21, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

== The term "shiny" confirmed as official? ==

The GTS tutorial at http://www.pokemon-gts.net/gtstutorial/en-US/ has a page about [[Masuda method]]. This page refers to Shiny Pokémon - is this the first time an official English source uses this term? (Go to Trading Pokémon over GTS, then GTS features, then page 5 to see the reference.) '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 13:54, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
:Oh yeah, I don't have a clue when that tutorial thingie came first there, but I'm absolutely sure it wasn't there a couple of weeks ago. Had to go to check if they had anything interesting there :D '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 14:04, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
::Pokémon.com's mailbag's used the term more than once. It would seem that if Shiny Pokémon is a fan tern, it's one that Nintendo recognizes, which is rare. I think the term is official. Shall I move the page to "Shiny Pokémon"? [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 14:16, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
:::I'd vote for moving the page, though I don't know if the page move should go first through an admin (since this is a fairly often-linked page, over 500 pages link here). '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 14:18, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
::::The way I see it, while we fix the links, the current page is gonna be a redirect anyway. I don't see why not, official websites have used the term, so.... Yeah, I'll move the page. If it gets reverted, then we'll leave it. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 16:05, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

:::::Actually, are the usages of "shiny" in the Mailbag in the questions only, or do they appear in the answers as well? If it's the former, then the page should absolutely NOT be moved from "alternate coloration". As far as I can tell, "alternate coloration" is indeed the official terminology, and there's very little that would say otherwise. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 16:43, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::I don't know about those, but the GTS tutorial, which I believe to be official Nintendo material, uses the term "shiny", and that was the sole point of my original question whether that should be considered official. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 16:49, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::About the mailbag, it was the answers that used the term. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 17:30, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Interesting. The URL of the ad for the Pikachu-colored Pichu promotion contains the word "shiny": http://www.pokemon.com/us/special/shiny_pichu
Also, check out "The Prima guides" section of this talk page. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 20:09, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

== The Title Dispute ==
I disagree with the move for one reason: shiny is only focusing on shiny Pokemon. Alternate coloration can imply any other colors of Pokemon such as [[Pink Butterfree]]. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 16:25, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

== In the Anime ==

I think we ought to have a [[List of Shiny Pokémon in the anime]], in which we can go more in-depth on them than we do in this article. What say you people? [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 13:24, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
:<s>Missingno. Master, I agree with you, but we have a section about it. And if we were to add such a page, Do you have any idea how small It would be? And how could we get more in depth?</s> Tought it through and Sounds like a good idea to me. :D [[User talk: ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']] 00:56, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
::Don't we already have one? --[[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 00:58, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
:::No, but we have a section, on the page. We do need {{tt|more|some}} Information about these Pokémon. Hell, ''I'' don't know what the Metegross from ''Noodle's: Roaming off!'' has to do with the storyline at all. Besides, the page doesn't even have a bit of info about these Pokémon at all. [[User talk: ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']] 01:06, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Exactly the reason I suggested this. Editing the information on them into the page would make it even bigger than it is. In fact, I think I might start on this page right now. Well, actually, not yet. Perhaps tomorrow... [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 01:25, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

== Shiny ==

I have saw a shiny {{p|Sharpedo}} on the GTS before.Also,I caught a shiny {{p|Bidoof}},(I didn`t use Action Replay when i caught it).I have a big question,If I have a male shiny and a regular female,what would be the odds that the offspring is shiny.[[User:LucarioWolf|The Aura Wolf !!!!]] 12:23, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
:The odds are the same in Generations III and IV. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 12:44, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
::The odds wouldn't change, even if the parents are both shiny. The chances of gettin a shiny egg are the same as findin one in the wild. Unless, of course, your usin Platinum. [[User talk: ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']] 17:21, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
:Actually, I just remembered about the Masuda Method. If that Sharpedo is foreign or breeds with a foreign Pokémon, the odds will decrease in Generation IV. And what do you mean about using Platinum ShinyPikachu? [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 17:55, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
::Look on Plt's page. See where it mentions about the PRNG (pesudo-random number generator) being "broken' making it easier to breed shiny Pokémon? [[User talk: ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']] 18:06, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

== First gen. ==

I heard if you trade a Pokemon from a first generation game to a second generation game, or transfer a Pokemon from a first generation game to Stadium 2, they might appear as shiny. That's true, right, due to shininess being attributed to IVs? On an unrelated side note, Jigglypuffs "straw hat"..Isn't that Leaf's hat? I don't own Brawl, so I wouldn't know, but I heard it is. [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 23:45, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
:Yes and yes. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:02, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

== Colored vs Shiny ==

Maybe we should just have a separate page for color variations that are in the anime that don't correspond to "shininess"? It's implied, IIRC, that pokemon come in a range of colors in the anime, such as the Orange Islands pokemon. [[User:Yamikuronue|Yamikuronue]] 15:33, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
:This page was once known as alternate coloration, which included all of this. Would it be reasonable to revert the move? [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 15:41, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
::It should be... but when Missingno Master (I believe) moved it, all users decided that everything should be that way and thus changed all the links... we could undo and what not if we can find the changes. However, I think an admin would need to confirm this. Missingno Master approved of reverting the move, so... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 14:17, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Let's have a new vote. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 14:20, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
::::I don't think it's necessary though... just as I said before, Missingno Master moved it, and then agreed to what I said. It's [[User talk:Missingno. Master/Archive10#Redirect|here]]. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 18:13, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::So split it into 2 pages? [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 18:49, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::That's a different matter, now isn't it? Personally, I think that the second page is necessary I guess... I mean, we have a link to alternately colored Pokémon in the anime. It seems a tad bit out of place. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 19:01, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::: MM said "Yeah, that's true. Maybe make another page for Pokémon that are oddly colored, but not shiny" so isn't that the same matter? [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 19:05, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Subpage then? Shiny is considered alternate-colored I guess... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 19:07, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::So these are the situations: 1. move back 2. split into 2 pages or make subpage out of shiny 3. Remove all alternate coloration references that aren't shiny in the page. I think 1 is the best as shiny is alternate coloration. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 19:10, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::Shininess is, IMO, a cause of alternate coloration - as opposed to, say, natural variation or berries, which are both anime-only. [[User:Yamikuronue|Yamikuronue]] 23:33, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions

2009-12-15T10:03:36Z

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==Previous discussion==
* [[/Archive 1|Archive 1]] (8 May 2009 - 25 June 2009)
* [[/Archive 2|Archive 2]] (25 June 2009 - 12 September 2009)

==A note to editors==
The page will be staying locked for a little bit longer. There is a lot of information to process, and if everybody tries to edit this page at once, there are going to be lots of edit conflicts. This can result in server stress, and also may prevent genuine information from being added. So just wait for a bit. If you've got something to add, doublecheck that it isn't there already and make a new section on this page. The administrators will add it to the article in time, provided it isn't baseless and has been confirmed either by our own editors playing through the games, or a number of other websites. We will unlock the page once the traffic has slowed a little. Thank you. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:42, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

== Less notable/important aesthetic changes? ==

I'm not sure about this or not, but is it worthwhile at all to mention somewhere these two cosmetic changes:

* Water flowing can now be heard when standing near a body of water.
* The Magnet Train's tracks now appear overground (like on Route 32).

'''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 03:24, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
:Cheers. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:36, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

*Just an addition to TheChrisD's posts, the game also has more sound effects in the overworld. Aside from the sound of water flowing, other sounds include the sound of the windmill when standing next to a windmill in New Bark Town and even just the sound of the player's walking on tall and short grass if you listen carefully.
*Also, the Running Shoes can be put on via Touch Screen, allowing the player to run without having to hold the B button.

--[[User:Daninjango|Daninjango]] 05:35, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

''while the legendary beasts use a remixed version of their battle theme from Pokémon Crystal.'' Might want to note that the remix is slightly different for each <strike>gerbil</strike> beast (eg. Raikou's has faint thunderclap-like noises) [[User:Frugali|Frugali]] 09:10, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

:: Also to make note that Cerulean Cave and Seafoam are still active, Zapdos, Moltres, Articuno and Mewtwo are all capturable. [[User:Ggctuk|Ggctuk]] 08:25, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
:::These are done. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:39, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

There's also the Game Boy Player which will replace all the game's music with the classic Game Boy Color version of the score. [[User:Ggctuk|Ggctuk]] 19:43, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

== PokéGear ==

It is not blue for {{ga|Gold|Hibiki}} and pink for {{ga|Kotone}}. The initial pattern is blue for both, but its skin is changeable to the pink version or other four models. -- [[User:RikkiKitsune|R<s>ikki</s>]][[User talk:RikkiKitsune|Kitsune]] 03:24, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
:Thanks. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:36, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

== Changes ==

Add in (Location): The [[Kanto Safari Zone]] was changed to Kanto Pal Park]].

Mt. Silver is bigger in size.

(Gameplay) And finally, the gym has change "puzzle"

Gym Leader's Pokémon has changed. --[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang95]] 10:53, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
:Cheers. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:48, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
:: I have the jap version and am on Cyndaquil. Cyndaquil now learns Ember at lvl 10 rather than 12. [[User:Jono R|Jono R]] 17:23, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
:::Moveset changes go on the individual Pokémon's page. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:17, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

== Gym Leader Rematch Teams ==

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=960099&topic=51316486 [[User:Master Lucario|Master Lucario]]
:I would think to wait on this until another source could be found for this note. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 01:00, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
::Now it looks like Serebii.net is starting to post the details for the Gym Leader rematches but at this moment it remains incomplete, so for now it looks like it is becoming more verified and one day I am sure it would be mentioned on this page when an administrator decides it is ready. My idea is just put it with the details for the Elite Four rematches since it is on the same subject. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 12:30, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

==Kris==
''Kris, despite being the female counterpart of Crystal's player character Gold, is believed not to be included as the female counterpart, with a new character instead taking her place.'' is this still valid or should this be changed/reworded? Do we completely accept Kotone as a new character now? [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 01:07, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
:It should be, thanks for pointing that out.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 01:08, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

== Can anyone put this on Pokemon Heartgold and Soulsilver gallery? ==

http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/e/e6/Groundon.jpg
can anyone do it? I can't do it cause is not letting me. The picture i want to be upload is the groundon fight thingy or something. - ''unsigned comment from {{u|DialgaPrimeX}} ([[User talk:DialgaPrimeX|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/DialgaPrimeX|contribs]]) ''
:no. for one thing, its horrific quality, and second, its stolen from Serebii. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 07:43, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

It was my first day i did not know what to do :P- ''unsigned comment from {{u|DialgaPrimeX}} ([[User talk:DialgaPrimeX|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/DialgaPrimeX|contribs]]) ''

== Huh... that pic with Silver ==

Well, he got his sprite changed in the game. It is better to put in a new pic of battle with Silver. -- [[User:RikkiKitsune|R<s>ikki</s>]][[User talk:RikkiKitsune|Kitsune]] 07:33, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
:We shall do so. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:59, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

== Routes ==
Shouldn't we mention somewhere on the page that there are two new routes (47 and 48) were added? --[[User:Mr.lol|Mr.lol]] 15:41, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
:I think so. -- [[User:RikkiKitsune|R<s>ikki</s>]][[User talk:RikkiKitsune|Kitsune]] 21:02, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
::Got it. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:30, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

== Mt. Silver ==
A minor update that should be made at some point is that Moltres can be caught in Mt. Silver and possibly put together with the Mt. Silver update with as few words as possible. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 21:54, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
:Done. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:35, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

== Edit Plz ==
Someone needs to put things in present tense on this page. Game's come out... so the page needs to act like it. XD [[User:CherryParanoia|CherryParanoia]] 02:02, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
:Where exactly are you talking about? Most of the info ''has'' been moved to present tense... except for ''HeartGold and SoulSilver will revisit the story of Johto''. [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 02:10, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
::P.S. There's a stray apostrophe here: ''While the games' feature several expansions in key areas...'' [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 02:10, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
:::Done. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:35, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
::::"These games will be released in Japan almost exactly..." should be "These games were released in Japan almost exactly ..." [[User:CherryParanoia|CherryParanoia]] 00:12, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::Not quite. JpPt was the 13th of September. HGSS was the 12th. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 04:57, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

===One More Edit Request===
If it's worth adding that is... In this game, players can use two items quickly. I don't remember how to say it, but there can be two quick select items (maybe that's the term) instead of one. They're numbered and the first can be activated by pressing (Y) but both are available on the touch screen. [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 11:18, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
:Done. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:35, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

===Poké Gear's Radio Card is Essential===
Does that count as a gameplay change? You need to complete the quiz to make Whitney give up on her attempts and return to the gym. [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 11:37, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
:Done. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:35, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

===Gift's from Mom===
When you let your mother buy you presents, she doesn't put them in your PC but you have to go to your "friendlyshop" (Poké Mart) or department store and the delivery man is waiting for you with a gift.

Also people take your picture with all your Pokémon and send it to your PC. (Camera men at various spots around the map. usually touristy)

could you always choose not to answer your phone? [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 12:15, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

==Missing Pokemon List==
Serebii.net has just created a version exclusive list at [http://www.serebii.net/heartgoldsoulsilver/exclusives.shtml] so once somebody is ready then a Missing Pokemon list
for this page. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 21:39, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

== Obtaining Hoenn and Sinnoh pokemon ==

http://www.serebii.net/heartgoldsoulsilver/hoennsinnoh.shtml

As you can see here, you can catch pokemon from Sinnoh and Hoenn by using the Pokéegear's radio.

[[User:050294|050294]] 22:25, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

==Games Leaked==

Can someone remove that? It is not notable. Almost every game in the last two generation has. Serebii has gotten his copies of Emerald, Diamond/Pearl, Platinum, and HeartGold/SoulSilver a few days early. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 04:03, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
:I agree, once the game is properly released it's sort of irrelevant if it was leaked or not. Almost EVERYTHING major gets leaked nowadays anyway. [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 18:36, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

== Trade Me! ==

How come alot of pokemon say on their locations box that they need to be traded in to heartgold and soulsilver, when thay can just be evolved from a pokemon that can be found in the wild. Take Kakuna for instance, you can find it in the national park in gold and silver, so you can probably catch it in the same way as well in HGSS. Or you could just evolve your weedle.--[[User:Minimag|Minimag]] 06:16, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
:"Trade" is the default on the template. If you know where the Pokémon are located, then you can fix it up yourself. Take a look at a page that has the correct information, and work out how to code it :) All help appreciated. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:32, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

== Version Exclusives? ==

We get a list of those yet? Serebii has one, but for all I know, they just used the ones from GS. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 06:30, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
:From what I have seen, it is largely the same as GS, which is as expected. There are a few Hoenn/Sinnoh Pokémon there and everything I am aware of has been listed [[Version-exclusive Pokémon|here]]. I will export it into this article now; I just didn't have the time when I first made the list. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:25, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
::Also with this new addition on their site [http://www.serebii.net/heartgoldsoulsilver/rocksmash.shtml], Kabuto (HeartGold) and Omanyte (SoulSilver) and their evolutions now make their lists since their fossils can now be found in the game via Rock Smash along with Aerodactyl's fossil and a few other items such as amongst them. So at some point new details about Rock Smash and the Fossils can be put in, though for the fossils it still remains unknown on where to go to revive them. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 15:51, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
:::the pewter museum is once again open so the fossils can be revived there [[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamate]][[User Talk:Ultamatecharizard|Charizard]] 16:41, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
:uh....im playing HeartGold and yesterday i found a Helix Fossil....-- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 18:43, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
::Oy, need to do some serious talk on this and in case you don't know the dark lord tormbonator also updated the version exclusive pages other than the fact I updated the fossil Pokémon pages but I will revert my edits for the time being on Kabuto and Omanyte's pages. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 18:47, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

== GAME PLAY Change! ==

I found out that in HG/SS, you can choose one of the three Kanto starters for yourself. It's true, a video with the real game that shows it! Oh, and an item that plays Gen. 2 music is also shown. --[[User:Spritemaster|Spritemaster]] 20:49 18 September 2009 (UTC)
:What's the criteria for getting the Kanto starter? [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 20:59, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
::Beating Red on MT. Silver. [[User talk: ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']] 21:01, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
:::Sorry, but we've know about this since before the games came out. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 12:25, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
== Do we have clear pictures of the second covers? ==

I know there is a second cover to the games. It looks similar to the G/S ones.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 23:24, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

==Pokéball==
Something that was posted on Serebii.net at [http://www.serebii.net/heartgoldsoulsilver/items.shtml] on the Pokéball section of that page is that the post-Generation II balls are available in the game. Until more details on this matter are acquired by someone who has a copy of HeartGold or SoulSilver then it should not be posted on this site to avoid misinformation. However though the only noteworthy thing that it has to this page is the addition of more Pokéball than any other Pokémon game. {{unsigned|Tyler53841}}

== The small pond ==

In G/S/C, there was a small, inaccesible pond by the Pokemon Center in Cherrygrove City. This pond served only for city design (because the "border" of the city is "water", and the city finishes behind the PokeCenter, it seemed strange for water to be behind it, so that pond was created to make it look ok. But it is inaccesible). This pond is still in HG/SS, but it is now accesible from Route 30. Small detail I noticed, since that pond always called my attention. I thought it would be gone in these games, but no. I think this and some other details should be noted in the article. --[[User:Dr. James|Dr. James]] 03:15, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

:Is there anything special about the pond, or is it just there? See if you can find an item somewhere or a rare Pokémon by fishing. As for the other details, what do you think should be added? '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 13:36, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

::Hehehe, well I still can't explore the pond; I haven't even still reached Violet City so I don't have Surf or anythimg. As for the other details, it would be great to have a list about differences between these games and G/S/C. Like for example, "In G/S/C, Gold obtains his Pokegear when he exits his room at the beginning of the game. In HG/SS, he obtains it after getting his first Pokemon". --[[User:Dr. James|Dr. James]] 16:25, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
:::Um... there is a section named just that on the page... in fact, it's most of the page. Go look again. I'd like to crop this down in the next few days, and put all unnecessary information onto the related articles. This one is perhaps best suited for the Poké Gear article. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:01, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

== Giovanni ==

Should it be mentioned that Giovanni appears through a Celebi event? It's mentioned on Giovanni's page, but it is significant to gameplay because Giovanni never actually appeared in Gen II; he was only mentioned.--[[User:JacobCrystal|JacobCrystal]] 20:28, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
:Yeah alright then. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:35, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

==Latios and Latias==
In regards to the new update for Latios and Latias being version exclusives respectfully. I would to see if anyone has confirmed it yet. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 00:51, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
:They are; Latias in HeartGold and Latios in SoulSilver -- [[User talk:AOS|AOS]] 11:38, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

== Shinning Leaf ==

Should the article note that the Shinning Leaf thing replaces the capture the flag mini-game to obtain a star on the TC -- [[User talk:AOS|AOS]] 22:32, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

== Radio ==

Why does it say that it is now compulsory for the game to get the radio card, when you needed it to finish the game in the originals. The whole Lake of Rage thing --[[User:Ripp145|Ripp145]] 17:33, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
:You didn't need to get it for the Lake of Rage if I remember. All you REALLY needed it for was to wake up Snorlax. Now though you have to get it to get past Goldenrod, as Whitney won't appear in her Gym until you get the Radio Card. '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 17:40, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

== Pokemon traded from HGSS to DPPt ==

I don't know if this was known or not, but when Pokémon from Johto get traded to a Sinnoh game, it says that the Pokémon came from "Faraway place". Should that be noted anywhere? --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 01:48, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
:That's interesting. Maybe the "arrived from Johto" data is just so the game might not crash or something... or maybe they expected a game from Johto via Generation III, but it was too late when they made the Generation IV games. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 01:51, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
::It also seems that Johto doesn't recognize Sinnoh either. They also say "Faraway place". But that could possibly change once the National Dex is obtained. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 02:12, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
:::That's not true.. I traded over a Slugma that I caught on Plat and it's showing up as "Caught at Hard Mountain". And I only have three badges. Very weird. →''[[User:Tina|'''T'''inā]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|★]] 02:18, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
::::some people are speculating that its because trading from Jap to Eng is causing the problem. hasnt been confirmed, but its possible. might have to wait until the English version comes out. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 17:06, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
:::::The Faraway Place Met Location was programmed to show the text of any other Met Location that exists in the game based off a value normally unviewable to players. The Value is equivalent to the index number of the Met Location that you caught the Pokemon in. When that value does not equal a location in the game, it just shows Faraway Place. This was done for compatibility with previous games, and is the exact reason why various Pokemon from new locations show up as being from Faraway place when traded to previous games. This was introduced in Platinum, for compatibility with D/P. By the way, the Location indexes from Platinum still exist in Heart Gold and Soul Silver, but all of them had their text replaced with "Faraway Place", so that D/P/Pt Pokemon which weren't actually from Faraway Place would still show the text for it.
::::::They also added a Graphic swapping ability for Pokeballs in HG/SS. All Pokemon caught in the Apricorn Balls are actually caught in PokeBalls(Explaining the lack of unique in-battle graphics), with the game changing the Status Screen graphic based on another hidden value. So any Pokemon caught in the Apricorn Balls will be shown in the Pokeball in D/P/Pt. -- [[User:JoeTE|Joe T.E.]] 01:29, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
:::::::What if you caught a Pokémon with an Apricorn Ball, traded it to DPPt and then traded back? Would it still say it was caught in a Poké Ball on HGSS?--[[User:Pokelova|''ポケモン恋人'']][[User talk:Pokelova|''(離す)'']][[Special:Contributions/Pokelova|''(貢献)'']] 02:57, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
::::::::The hidden value exists and is kept when traded to previous games. They just didn't program it to do anything until HG/SS. So yes, it'll still show the Apricorn Ball when traded back to HG/SS. -- [[User:JoeTE|Joe T.E.]] 15:08, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

== Spacecraft ==

Spacecraft is plural. Don't be a jerk, they knew what they were doing. Someone, please change it back. [[User:Jazzmoth|Jazzmoth]] 04:18, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
: wow - don't change it back. first of all its not a spacecraft: its a rocket. mavericktate just likes undoing my revisions. i wasn't trying to be a jerk.

== What should we do about this? ==

The other box artwork
http://i940.photobucket.com/albums/ad242/Midnight-Blue93/20090921193116.jpg
What should we do about it? I'm curious.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 04:09, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
:I don't think it matters in the long run since the cover art will be replaced with the English covers as soon as they are revealed. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 04:18, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
:: Alright, I was also wondering, is this cover on all copies or only on certain ones? Some are saying they did not have that cover.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 04:20, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
:::From what I understood, the cover art used in the article is actually a box, and when you open the box there is the PokéWalker and the game case that you posted above. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 04:28, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

== The whole Lati@s version-exclusive thing ==

In {{game|Ruby and Sapphire|s}} they aren't listed as version-exclusive, even though its the same thing as here. Personally I think they should be listed with an asterisk. '''[[User:Myles|Myles]]''' ([[User talk:Myles|talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Myles|contrib]]) 03:52, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
:Agreed. There should at least be something talking about that. They don't list the Weedle line as a version exclusive - b/c it can be obtained by other means - Bug catch Contest. [[User:LugiaRocks|LugiaPwns]] 03:55, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

I pretty much think that that Latios and Latias should still be listed as version exclusives but this new piece should be listed as trivia should the other means can from a Nintendo exclusive event which is something that can only happen once and therefore is outside the normal means. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 15:01, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

:They're not technically version exclusives in R/S, because of the [[Eon Ticket]] and [[Southern Island]]. They're still in the actual game coding as an in-world sprite that's interactable, and you can battle and catch them. Exclusives is like Groudon and Kyogre, or Palkia and Dialga, because you can only catch them in their respective versions. You have to trade to get them in the same version. And the exclusives also have a direct part in the storyline, such as Ruby having extreme sun with Groudon on the loose, and Sapphire having extreme thunderstorms with Kyogre on the loose, not to mention Team Magma and Aqua and in-game text spoken by NPCs. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 16:24, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
::Good, Trom changed it. We should somehow mention that without the event they are v-exclusives though. It would be less confusing. '''''-'''''[[User:LugiaRocks|'''LugiaRocks''']] ([[User talk:LugiaRocks|''Talk'']] ★ [[Special:Contributions/LugiaRocks|''Edits'']]) 04:48, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

Can we say that Heartgold is like Sapphire and Soulsilver is like Ruby in obviously a proper way? the fact that im mentioning is that Kyogre and Latias comes in Heartgold while their counterparts appear in Soulsilver while the Lati@s not obtained can be obtained from an event.[[User:Laxafett|Laxafett]] 21:46, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

== Date Specifics ==

One of the guys who works at GameStop in my town said the date was in March, as close as he knew. I respect this guy ALOT and see how he would know this, seeing as though he asked if I wanted to pre-order. Can anyone verify March, and maybe see if they can pre-order too? '''The''' ''[[User:GuyNamedSean|GuyNamedSean]], [[User Talk:GuyNamedSean|yep, that's '''me'''!]]'' 04:42, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
:A few places have allowed pre-orders for at least a month now, with no release date know. Not trying to be mean, but your trust in a guy at a store doesn't really matter when it comes to verifying info. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 05:08, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
::Amazon said my game would ship April 1st, but that might just be an estimate. [[User:Jazzmoth|Jazzmoth]] 03:05, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
:::That'll just be an estimate. They have to get them from other stores, since they're only a website, they don't buy and store things themselves. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 17:44, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
::I reserved a Copy at GameStop, they said it was April 1st. Also: [http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?product_id=75770|link] --[[User:Domigan|Domigan]]
:::in order to generate pre-orders, they need to set a date. they cant accept a pre-order unless they have a date, so they put a generic release date. Nintendo announced "Spring 2010" and April 1st is right in the middle of spring. the game is not comming April 1st. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 17:26, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
::::Yes, I highly doubt the game would come out on April Fools Day. xP '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 13:51, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
:::::Just because it is April Fools Day doesn't mean new products can't be released. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 18:10, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
::::::Amazon just told me my game is arriving March 16th. Keep an eye out for an official announcement!! [[User:Jazzmoth|Jazzmoth]] 04:09, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

== From a so-so reliable source, I hear HGSS should be coming out in ==

March 2, 2010. I'm not so sure. Cuz then he said May 2, 2010. And that just crushed me...make of this info what you will--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 03:14, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
:A so-so source is not good enough. What is the source?--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 03:17, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
::My friend's internet. But I will check the Gamestop 3-ring binder. Then I'll tell you what it says--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 03:39, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
:::Haha internet. Regardless, I highly doubt that it's May 2, as that is a Sunday. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 03:41, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
:::/me points up. It's just one section away... ._. It's just a placeholder date. There hasn't been anything official released yet. D: ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 03:46, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
::Um wasn't Platinum released on a Sunday?--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 04:13, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
:::Nope, it was a Saturday. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 04:15, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
::::No it was Sunday. Diamond and Pearl were released on Sunday too. So what day of the week doesn't mean anything. Anyway, May is too late. HeartGold/SoulSilver were released the same week that Platinum was the year before, so late March early April is most likely. Also your friend's internet is not any different from the rest of ours. The Gamestop books will say April 1st, and that is just a placeholder date. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 06:09, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
:::::Umeko made a {{tt|mistake|hey, we all make mistakes}}. it seems Nintendo has been releasing a lot of games on Sundays in the past few years. but there no guarantee itll be May 2nd for the reason i stated in the section above. meanwhile, lets keep release date rumors to a minimum. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 06:13, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
::::::Alright, I still am gonna try to find out the real release date. I wanna be the first one to put it up here, since I never get to put anything {{tt|good|except for sprites but those don't count}} on this wiki T-T--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 00:36, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Your not going to find the official date until Nintendo announces it. If that was possible it would be up already. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 07:49, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
::::::::I just have to hear it b4 u lot then ^^--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 02:46, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::Most of the recent major games have been released Thursday here. ([[User:GT4GTR|GT4GTR]] 03:07, 7 December 2009 (UTC))

== We need to change something. ==

As it is locked for me, any admins agreeing with me, check here and you will see that HGSS are to be announced. So instead of putting N/A, you should be putting TBA. [[User:Will k|Will k]] 20:17, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

== Add to the article: How is [[Ash]]'s house different? ==

When the player visits [[Pallet Town]], are there any differences to Ash's house in these new versions?

Moreover, does Ash appear in this game?

These are great to add to the article once somebody finds out. Thanks a lot! --[[User:Tanaka Shimoya|Tanaka Shimoya]] 01:11, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
:[[Ash Ketchum]]? No, the anime character doesn't appear in the game. What you mean is {{ga|Red}}, Ash's counterpart. He appears as normal, located in [[Mt. Silver]]. As for his house, I don't think it has changed.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 01:16, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
:(got conflicted) Assuming you're talking about {{ga|Red}}, he does appear in the game, you battle him at Mt. Silver just like in GSC. I don't know if his house is any different though, I haven't played the game yet (waiting for English version) [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 01:17, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
::Well, since I can read Japanese, I'll hopefully find these game ROMs on BitComet without needing to wait for the US release date! :) Then I'll get to find out for myself! :-D --[[User:Tanaka Shimoya|Tanaka Shimoya]] 01:21, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

== Animation Changes ==

I noticed that for some of the moves (e.g. DynamicPunch, Aura Sphere), the backgrounds were different. Does anyone have a list or more information? [[User:MagicBarrier|MagicBarrier]] 20:04, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
:Different from Platinum, or DP? Because they were different in Platinum from what they were in DP. They probably did update a lot of animations for moves, just like from DP to Platinum. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 20:53, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

== What the? ==

''"There's a minor quirk involving the Poké Mart signs, in which they are sometimes shown to be placed on the edges of trees, making it appear as if it was built there."''

What? '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|f80|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|f80|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|fb0|gami}} [http://myfreegadget.blogspot.com/ :)]''' 10:03, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

Talk:ゥ .4

2009-07-29T12:09:05Z

Origamiguy: /* Are you guys serious?! */ new section

==Sprite?==
Could someone upload a sprite of .4? I personally think it's be good to have one in the article. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] 11:28, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
:Like the sprite is not that amusing, but look, a bunch of pixels! xD --[[User:Alamos|Gaudhi]] 20:36, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
::Your point???!!!!! Idiot! (for a reason I am not saying)[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|Maniac]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|102]] 20:43, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

== Type ==

In Pokémon Yellow, .4's type is 'Ragon' (You can catch .4 in Yellow, I've done it in my friend's game.) ... - [[User:FireHazard|Hazardous FIRE!]] 06:25, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
:Proof please. [[User:Takoto|~~Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 06:31, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
::He's thinking of [[4. .]]. And its species in the Pokedex is Ragon, not its type. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 21:09, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

== Are you guys serious?! ==

I just stumbled across this page, and i am wondering who is responsible for the Habitat and Name Origin sections. They are taking it way too seriously, as if it was meant to be in the code. It's a glitch! it's name is derived from the fact that there were bugs in the code which the programmers did not notice, not because it's sprite is small and 4 is a small number '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|f80|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|f80|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|fb0|gami}} [http://myfreegadget.blogspot.com/ :)]''' 12:09, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Talk:-----

2009-07-29T11:41:20Z

Origamiguy: /* Wha do? */

Um, is this at all notable? Not to mention the article is full of misspellings. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] 16:15, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

1.There are no misspellings.
2.Just follow the link I put. it dosent look fake to me.--[[User:Lucarioking|Lucarioking]] 16:43, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

1. Yes there are. Pokémon is spelled as "pokemon" more than once.
2. No it isn't fake. It definitely needs a better name, though, and to be cleaned up.

My judgment? Currently this article is total crap. In fact, both it and [[Invisible shiny bulbasaur]] are. I mean, honestly, there are no apostrophes, no capital letters, jeez, Lucarioking, did your punctuation and shift keys break?

They're notable (though maybe not ISB... that sounds more like a Pikablu than anything), but they need heavy cleanup. --'''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 00:02, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

== Removal?? ==

Has DPBox been removed for the European versions of Pokemon Diamond and Pokemon Pearl? It's to be released on the 27th July 2007 and I'm just wondering if it has been corrected or not. The same uestion goes for the Invisible Shiny Bulbasaur.

P.S. I can't wait for when it is released!! - Tesh!
:Yes, it has been Not even we over here in the US got it. --'''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 23:11, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
::Indeed. With the exception of the Japanese version, a cheat device is required to encounter DPBox. However, I've heard that the POMEG Glitch is still present in Diamond/Pearl, and '''IF''' it is, then one could use the Emerald POMEG method of encountering ?????????? to potentially encounter DPBox.--[[User:DavidJCobb|DavidJCobb]] 19:29, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

== sprite ==

1) why is the sprite animated?
2) i'm trying to get the battle sprite from my emulator, will let you know when i'm done.
'''[[:User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Talk]]-[[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|Contribs]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|Mudkipz]]''' 12:00, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

== Pomeg glitch ==

it does exists in D/P,but unfotunately it works now in a very diferent way wich is almost unexploitable
:How do you do it? --[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 00:27, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
in the same way as you would in Emerald version,i tryied it with my Torterra and it indeed worked
:How's it in a different way and almost unexploitable, then? --[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 00:37, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
because you aren't able to KO your Pokémon with a Potion,it says "There's no need for that now"
try it,remember EVing the target some in HP to make the glitch
:So you can't use it to get a Metapod from an egg anymore? --[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 00:47, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
nope,but using a DPBox you can have a freezing Bad Egg figth,sometimes with overlevels,the higher i have seen its 224,and also i have seen a Manaphy Bad Egg,or a Bad Egg with Insomnia

== About this glitch... ==

Many people says that this glitch may appear even without the use of any cheating device. Will it really appear if you have 2 fainted Pokémon, an egg, and a healthy on in your party?
[[User:Palkia38|Palkia38]] 05:02, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
:Lemme go try it... Know what, I'll record it too. [[User:Crüsäder|Crüsäder]] 15:21, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
::I tried it in the US version, it didn't work. [[User:Theininen|Thein]][[User talk:Theininen|inen]] 14:33, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

:::Yeah,I tried it too,and it did not work.[[User:ShinyEmpoleon|ShinyEmpoleon]]20:27, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

== Mistake ==

The same thing is said twice here.

It can also appear when one "recruits" a partner trainer (such as Riley) and leaves the area the partner is "supposed" to be in using a Walk Through Walls cheat; from there, the player must trigger a wild battle (a common method is to walk on water). This results in the partner (who was replaced by a placeholder partner when the player left the "recruitment area") sending out DPBox as a placeholder Pokémon. In Double Battles, DPBox copies the speed of its partner and changes all Pokémon's cries to Bulbasaur's cry. After every attack animation, its HP bar disappears. It has no usable attacks (although it may have glitch attacks) and it doesn't show up on the Pokémon screen.

Then it says

It can also be encountered by using the "walk anywhere" code activated and having a partner so as to encounter wild Pokémon in double battles. If this is done outside the area you "recruited" the partner, the partner's sprite will be replaced by the player's sprite (so that they look like a clone of the player), their Pokémon will be changed to a DPBox, and their name will be changed to a blank space. This is most likely because by exiting the area the partner was confined to, the player caused the game to remove all of the partner's stats from memory, but because of the walk through walls code, the game never realized that the player no longer has a partner; thus, when entering a wild double battle, a placeholder trainer sends out its placeholder DPBox.

Which means the same thing, so I've deleted paragraph two. [[User:Grasspuff|MooTwo]] 14:25, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

== Umm...? ==

Could someone explain [[-----#Cloning Items with "DPbox"|these sentences]] to me?

''Turn the glove into the orange glove and select and drag the glove toward the Pokémon that has the item. Drag it back to DPBox to grab it. Keep it selected and take the item off of it. ''

So many "it"s and stuff that I can't even understand how to fix it. [[User:Theininen|Thein]][[User talk:Theininen|inen]] 22:12, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

== Before doing this... ==

I just want to see this glitch... Well, if have the things needed to have this DPBox, the 2 fainted Pokémon, the healthy one, and an egg, I'd go on a double battle, but before that, I'll save the game, then enter the double battle. Of course, DPBox would show up, and if I turned off the game, will DPBox still appear if I turned back on my game?[[User:Palkia38|Palkia38]] 03:10, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
:Nevermind... LOL [[User:Palkia38|Palkia38]] 10:58, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
== Links ==

This page has the links at the top to arceus and bulbasaur, but they don't link back, should i leave it or fix it? [[User:Theininen|Thein]][[User talk:Theininen|inen]] 14:36, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
:It's just a fun thing because it's National Dex # is 000, which would put it between Arceus and Bulbasaur. Since it isn't an official Pokémon though, don't change the links on those two pages. ←{'''[[User:Berrymaster|Berrymaster]]|[[User_talk:Berrymaster|Talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Berrymaster|Contrib]]'''}→ 15:06, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

== Wha do? ==

This is a long shot, but I figured I'd give my two cents in regards to this phenomenon.

I've had a decent amount of coding experience and I've got a hypothesis about why part of "What will (Pokémon) do?" is cut out. Given the way programs use memory it's possible that the placeholder data at least partially shares memory with something else (like if you got more than 99 of an item in Gen I the tens place would show different tiles instead of numbers) - and I've found out (usually by accident) that programming languages often include "backspace characters" and/or may interpret certain values outside the character set in the same way.

Because I don't have a way to verify anything in this case I'm only making an educated guess, but I think it might be possible that somehow or other the DPBox's name contains enough backspace characters (actual or incidental) to cut out the "t will " in this sentence. Depending on the whats and hows, it could even explain some of the other abnormalities associated with the glitch.

Does anyone have a way of checking this out? On that note, it'd be interesting to poke around in the game's code, I'm going to see if there is a way - I'm sure there is, but I'm not sure where to start; any suggestions? thanks [[User:Icecadavers|Icecadavers]] 06:16, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

:I also have a decent bit of coding experience, and i too reckon it's a backspace character (or just a character with a negative 'width' attribute). Not a clue how to go about looking at the source code - that would also be reverse engineering, and thus illegal. '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|f80|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|f80|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|fb0|gami}} [http://myfreegadget.blogspot.com/ :)]''' 11:41, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

==maybe this should be put in the article==

Maybe it should be added that there is another another way somewhat like the double battle glitch to find a -----, what you do is you use an action replay code to clone other people on the map to clone a trainer (This doesn't work with the versus seeker) when the trainer notices you he should talk to you and try to battle you but then the clone of the trainer will notice you and talk to you and because there are two of them it should trigger a double battle but because there is only one trainer it should send out a regular Pokemon and a ----- (this only works on a trianer with one pokemon) and after you've beaten the regular Pokemon the battle should end with a slight lag at the end from trying to display the second trainer.If you would like the code to clone trainers I will happily post it. [[User:0piggyjelly0|0piggyjelly0]] 18:02, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

User:Origamiguy/NameTemp

2009-07-29T11:37:48Z

Origamiguy:

'''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|f80|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|f80|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|fb0|gami}} [http://myfreegadget.blogspot.com/ :)]'''

Talk:S.S. Anne

2009-06-23T09:46:11Z

Origamiguy: /* The SS Ticket in D/P/Pt */ new section

==I've got a problem==
I looked at the method to find the truck for FR/LG and tried it. I think theres been a mistake; it doesn't work. Red/Leaf simply walks up to the ship, watches it leave, and exits the dock. I think I made a mistake, but I'm not sure. thanks [[Image:Ani493MS.gif]][[User:ZanderX|Zander]][[Image:Ani493MS.gif]] 07:52, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
:You're supposed to do the truck before helping the captain. That way the ship won't leave.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 12:06, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

== Wtf? ==

What's the proof about the 3D rendered Kanto in DP? - {{u|Pokémon Lover King Mario}}
:The title says '''Rumors''' and the sentence after that says that it was proven false[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|Maniac]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|102]] 15:55, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

== The Old Truck? ==

Was the truck really in Red, Blue and Yellow?--Moisesmorales 17:59, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
:Yes, the Old Truck appears in all of the Generation I games. [[User:Trainer-c|Trainer-c]] 18:01, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

== How to access the harbor after the ship leaves ==
This only works for RBY. To make the ship come back, you need a Pokémon with Surf. Stand to the left and above the sailor who tells you the ship left and turns you back. Take one step right, and in mid-step, hit the start button, similar to the Mew Glitch where you escape the Gambler. Immediately save and reboot. You should still be facing left, instead of down like how you usually start. Immediately begin Surfing, and you should be on top of the sailor. Then head down and enter the harbor. The ship will still be there and everything. If done correctly, it always works. [http://glitchcity.info/docs/ssanne (source)] --{{ani|250}}[[User:Fsilone|爆発
]]{{ani|249}}[[Special:Contributions/Fsilone|ばくはつ
]] 05:00, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

== S.S. Ticket... ==

Something tells me that it's only a dummy item for DP... and that its place in the coding will be used... [[GSDS|elsewhere]]. After all, all of the RSE key items are in the FRLG coding, and likewise for the FRLG key items in the E coding... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:55, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
:Oooh... good thinking. I'm adding that to the GSDS article. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|Talk]] 09:05, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

== I need help ==

I tried to add the truck to Wikipedia's Kanto (pokemon) article but i have met a lot of resistance. One single user took it upon himself to repeatedly remove my contribution and caused a edit war. First it was called speculation, so i had to go out of my way to finding source after source. Luckily i found one that can't be disputed. Then it's notability was called into question and then the images were argued to not be allowed because they were Non-free but so are all the images on the same article. So can anyone help me get some more evidence to back my case up.

I need images that they can't argue against, sources and maybe some extra people who believe the truck can be added to the article and not hurt it. [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami Takashi]] 16:39, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
::Why are you on the S.S. Anne talk page anyways?[[User:Taviource|Tavis]][[User talk:Taviource|ource]] 17:24, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
:::And plus, Wikipedia has it's own rules and we can care less about Wikipedia. Just let them be. You'll learn to understand one day, kid.--[[User:Taviource|Tavis]][[User talk:Taviource|ource]] 17:26, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
::::If you can care less about Wikipedia, it means that you do care. The rest of us ''can't'' care less about Wikipedia. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 17:36, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::They're not going to budge so just stop trying. Wikipedians can do what they want to their Pokémon coverage for all we care. As long as Bulbapedia's article has the information, people can just come here. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 18:09, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::In short, don't touch TOW, it has cooties. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:15, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::::lol(sorry for butting in and wat's TOW?)--[[User:CoolPikachu!|CoolPikachu!]] 07:48, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

== Picture ==

I put a pic I found on the achives about the s.s. anne one the s.s. anne page. I think it was uploaded by TTEchidna or King something..... well, here's the pic [[Image:260.gif|thumb|left|[[Leaf (game)|Leaf]], about to board the S.S. Anne in {{2v2|FireRed|LeafGreen}}.]] (I'll post later after I've found out who really uploaded it.......translation: I'll click on the picture, then say who exactly uploaded it.)--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/Secret Page|X]] 07:31, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

KingMario uploaded it........--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/Secret Page|X]] 07:33, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

== Trainers ==
This page has a disturbing lack of trainers listed, including the Rival battle. [[User:TCABF|TCABF]] 07:33, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
:Wanna find out for us? I'll give you a cookie! — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 07:18, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
I gathered as much of it as I could from LG. I'd already battled two of the trainers (The two in the room that is second from the left in the first row) so I missed those two's data, but I got the rest. Should be pretty accurate. I don't know the proper formatting for the templates and whatnot (I'm a wikinoob) so I'm posting here. I'll take that cookie now! :D

Hyper Potion (Hidden in Trash on bottom deck)
Super Potion (Room 5 on bottom deck)
TM44 (Rest) (Room 2 on bottom deck)
Ether (Room 3 on bottom deck)
Pecha Berry (Hidden in Trash in the Galley)
Cheri Berry (Hidden in Trash in the Galley)
Chesto Berry (Hidden in Trash in the Galley)
Great Ball (Galley)
Stardust (Room 2 on second deck)
X Attack (Room 4 on second deck)
HM01 (Receive from Captain for backrub)

MAIN DECK:

ROOM 2:

ROOM 5:
Gentleman Arthur WINNINGS: 1368
Nidoran Male Lv19 EXP: 240
Nidoran Female Lv19 EXP: 240

ROOM 7:
Gentleman Thomas WINNINGS: 1296
Growlithe Lv18 EXP: 351
Growlithe Lv18 EXP: 351

Room 6 has healer

BOTTOM DECK:

ROOM 1:
Fisherman Barny WINNINGS: 612
Tentacool Lv17 EXP: 382
Staryu Lv17 EXP: 385
Shellder Lv17 EXP: 352

Sailor Phillip WINNINGS: 640
Machop Lv20 EXP: 376

ROOM 2:
Sailor Huey WINNINGS: 576
Tentacool Lv18 EXP: 405
Staryu Lv18 EXP: 408

ROOM 3:
Sailor Dylan WINNINGS: 544
Horsea Lv17 EXP: 301
Horsea Lv17 EXP: 301
Horsea Lv17 EXP: 301

ROOM 4:
Sailor Duncan WINNINGS: 544
Horsea Lv17 EXP: 301
Shellder Lv17 EXP: 352
Tentacool Lv17 EXP: 382

Sailor Leonard WINNINGS: 672
Shellder Lv21 EXP: 436

SECOND DECK:

ROOM 2:
Fisherman Dale WINNINGS: 612
Goldeen Lv17 EXP: 403
Goldeen Lv17 EXP: 403
Tentacool Lv17 EXP: 382

Gentleman Brooks WINNINGS: 1656
Pikachu Lv23 EXP: 403

ROOM 4:
Lass Dawn WINNINGS: 288
Rattata Lv18 EXP: 219
Pikachu Lv18 EXP: 315

Gentleman Lamar WINNINGS: 1224
Growlithe Lv17 EXP: 331
Ponyta Lv17 EXP: 553

RIVAL BLUE: WINNINGS: 720
If the player chose Bulbasaur:
Pidgeotto Lv19 EXP: 458
Raticate Lv16 EXP: 397
Kadabra Lv18 EXP: 558
Charmeleon Lv20 EXP: 607

TOP DECK/OUTER DECK:
Sailor Trevor WINNINGS: 544
Machop Lv17 EXP: 319
Tentacool Lv17 EXP: 382

Sailor Edmond WINNINGS: 576
Machop Lv18 EXP: 339
Shellder Lv18 EXP: 373
[[User:TCABF|TCABF]] 07:30, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
:Wow, thanks. I really didn't think you'd do it quick like that. I'll upload it into the article, and you can eat [http://www.connersvine.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/cookie.jpg this]. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 08:34, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
::Thanks! :D Looking at the templates on other pages, it looks like I failed to gather certain data (Such as genders, and the moves of the rival) but hopefully this will at least get a start. [[User:TCABF|TCABF]] 08:43, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
::Eh. Someone will find out the genders I'm sure. Maybe I will... we still have to get those other two trainers. And the Rival's moves are probably on his page. If not, no biggy. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 08:48, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Which game is this for?--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 08:57, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
:::I assumed FRLG... I'm filling it in slowly anyways... — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 09:07, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
::::When your filling out Blue's battle, don't fill out the template from scratch, use the one [[Blue (game)#Battle four 3|here]]. Do you need help adding the templates?--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 09:16, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::Almost done. If you try and jump in it'll EC... But thanks. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 09:19, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

== Rumors...? ==
Should we move the '''Rumors''' section to the [[Vermilion Harbor]] page, since it has to do with the harbor, and not the ship directly? [[User:Jazzmoth|Jazzmoth]] 19:19, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

==Dupe pictures==
Is there some special reason which causes us to need two near-identical images of the "Truck" on the page? I don't quite see the point. --[[User:Turaga Dlakii|Turaga Dlakii]] ([[User talk:Turaga Dlakii|Talk!]]) 06:00, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
:I'm pretty sure having one is fine, so I removed the one of them. '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 06:05, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

== The SS Ticket in D/P/Pt ==

Maybe it's a placeholder, because the SS Anne might be in HG/SS '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|f80|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|f80|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|fb0|gami}}''' 09:46, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

S.S. Anne

2009-06-23T09:43:39Z

Origamiguy:

[[Image:SS Anne.PNG|frame|right|S.S. Anne in {{2v2|FireRed|LeafGreen}}]]
The '''S.S. ''Anne''''' or '''''St. Anne''''' (Japanese: '''サント・アンヌごう''' ''S.S. St. Anne'') is a known luxury cruise liner which [[Transportation in Pokémon|sails]] the {{pkmn|world}}, stopping annually in [[Vermilion City]], [[Kanto]].

==In the games==
To get on the S.S. Anne in the games, players must obtain an [[S.S. Ticket]] by helping out [[Bill]].

This ship contains many [[Pokémon Trainer]]s, including many [[Gentleman|Gentlemen]] and [[Sailor]]s. A room is provided with a bed that acts like a [[Pokémon Center]], restoring all [[Pokémon]] [[Party|on hand]] to full health. Before reaching the captain's cabin, players will encounter {{ga|Blue}}, and must battle him.

Once Blue is defeated again, the player will be able to enter the Captain's quarters, where they will find him seasick. By choosing to help him by giving him a backrub, players will be able to get {{HM|01|Cut}}.

Once the captain is healed, the S.S. Anne will sail away the moment player exits the ship, never to be seen again.

In the [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl beta|programming code of Diamond and Pearl]], an [[item]] called {{DL|List of key items in Generation I|S.S. Ticket}} has been found. According to its in-bag description, it is a "ticket for the Luxury Liner S.S. Anne," which means that S.S. Anne was possibly meant to reappear in [[Sinnoh]] or that Diamond and Pearl were built off of a heavily modified [[Generation III]] game engine.

===Items===
* {{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}: Hidden in Trash on bottom deck (hidden)
* {{DL|Potion|Super Potion}}: Room 5 on bottom deck
* {{TM|44|Rest}}: Room 2 on bottom deck
* [[Ether]]: Room 3 on bottom deck
* {{TM|31|Brick Break}}: Room 2 on main deck
* [[Pecha Berry]]: Hidden in Trash in the Galley (hidden)
* [[Cheri Berry]]: Hidden in Trash in the Galley (hidden)
* [[Chesto Berry]]: Hidden in Trash in the Galley (hidden)
* {{DL|Poké Ball|Great Ball}}: Galley
* {{DL|Valuable item|Stardust}}: Room 2 on second deck
* {{DL|Battle item|X Attack}}: Room 4 on second deck
* {{HM|01|Cut}}: Receive from Captain for backrub

===Trainers===
====Deck====
{{trainerheader}}
{{Trainerentry|FL_Sailor.png|Sailor|Trevor|544|2|066|Machop|♂|17|None|072|Tentacool|♂|17|None|}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|FL_Sailor.png|Sailor|Edmond|576|2|066|Machop|♂|18|None|090|Shellder|♂|18|None|}}
{{Trainerfooter}}
====B1F====
{{trainerheader}}
{{Trainerentry|FL_Fisherman.png|Fisherman|Barny|612|3|072|Tentacool|♂|17|None|120|Staryu||17|None|090|Shellder|♂|17|None}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|FL_Sailor.png|Sailor|Phillip|640|1|066|Machop|♂|20|None}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|FL_Sailor.png|Sailor|Huey|576|2|072|Tentacool|♂|18|None|120|Staryu||18|None}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|FL_Sailor.png|Sailor|Dylan|544|3|116|Horsea|♂|17|None|116|Horsea|♂|17|None|116|Horsea|♂|17|None}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|FL_Sailor.png|Sailor|Duncan|544|3|116|Horsea|♂|17|None|090|Shellder|♂|17|None|072|Tentacool|♂|17|None}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|FL_Sailor.png|Sailor|Leonard|672|1|090|Shellder|♂|21|None}}
{{Trainerfooter}}
====1F====
{{trainerheader}}
{{Trainerentry|FL_Gentleman.png|Gentleman|Arthur|1368|2|032|Nidoran♂||19|None|029|Nidoran♀||19|None}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|FL_Gentleman.png|Gentleman|Thomas|1296|2|058|Growlithe|♂|18|None|058|Growlithe|♂|18|None}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|FL_Lass.png|Lass|Ann|288|2|016|Pidgey|♀|18|None|029|Nidoran♀||18|None}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|FL_Youngster.png‎|Youngster|Tyler|366|1|032|Nidoran♂||21|}}
{{Trainerfooter}}
====2F====

{{trainerheader}}
{{Trainerentry|FL_Fisherman.png|Fisherman|Dale|612|3|118|Goldeen|♂|17|None|118|Goldeen|♂|17|None|072|Tentacool|♂|17|None}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|FL_Gentleman.png|Gentleman|Brooks|1656|1|025|Pikachu|♂|23|None}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|FL_Lass.png|Lass|Dawn|288|2|019|Rattata|♀|18|None|025|Pikachu|♀|18|None}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|FL_Gentleman.png|Gentleman|Lamar|1224|2|058|Growlithe|♂|17|None|077|Ponyta|♂|17|}}
{{Trainerfooter}}

If the {{Player}} chose {{p|Bulbasaur}}:
{{PartyHeader|color=FFDDDD|sprite=Blue2.png|prize={{pdollar}}[[Pokémon Dollar|720]]|class=[[Rival]]|name=Blue|game={{2v2|FireRed|LeafGreen}}|location=[[S.S. Anne]]}}
{{PartyBody33|color=FFDDDD|
sprite1=Spr 3f 005.png|p1=Charmeleon|item1=None|gender1=|ability1=Blaze|level1=20|types1=1|type11=Fire|p1m1=Scratch|p1m1t=Normal|p1m2=Growl|p1m2t=Normal|p1m3=Ember|p1m3t=Fire|p1m4=Metal Claw|p1m4t=Steel
|sprite2=Spr 3f 017.png|p2=Pidgeotto|item2=None|gender2=|ability2=Keen Eye|level2=19|types2=2|type12=Normal|type22=Flying|p2m1=Tackle|p2m1t=Normal|p2m2=Gust|p2m2t=Flying|p2m3=Sand-Attack|p2m3t=Ground|p2m4=Quick Attack|p2m4t=Normal
|sprite3=Spr 3f 020.png|p3=Raticate|item3=None|gender3=|ability3=Guts|level3=16|types3=1|type13=Normal|p3m1=Tackle|p3m1t=Normal|p3m2=Tail Whip|p3m2t=Normal|p3m3=Quick Attack|p3m3t=Normal|p3m4=Hyper Fang|p3m4t=Normal}}
{{PartyDiv|color=FFDDDD}}
{{PartyBody31|color=FFDDDD|
sprite1=Spr 3f 064.png|p1=Kadabra|item1=None|gender1=|ability1=Unknown|level1=18|types1=1|type11=Psychic|p1m1=Teleport|p1m1t=Psychic|p1m2=Confusion|p1m2t=Psychic|p1m3=Disable|p1m3t=Normal}}
{{PartyFooter|color=FFDDDD}}

If the {{Player}} chose {{p|Charmander}}:
{{PartyHeader|color=FFDDDD|sprite=Blue2.png|prize={{pdollar}}[[Pokémon Dollar|720]]|class=[[Rival]]|name=Blue|game={{2v2|FireRed|LeafGreen}}|location=[[S.S. Anne]]}}
{{PartyBody33|color=FFDDDD|
sprite1=Spr 3f 008.png|p1=Wartortle|item1=None|gender1=|ability1=Torrent|level1=20|types1=1|type11=Water|p1m1=Tackle|p1m1t=Normal|p1m2=Tail Whip|p1m2t=Normal|p1m3=Bubble|p1m3t=Water|p1m4=Water Gun|p1m4t=Water
|sprite2=Spr 3f 017.png|p2=Pidgeotto|item2=None|gender2=|ability2=Keen Eye|level2=19|types2=2|type12=Normal|type22=Flying|p2m1=Tackle|p2m1t=Normal|p2m2=Gust|p2m2t=Flying|p2m3=Sand-Attack|p2m3t=Ground|p2m4=Quick Attack|p2m4t=Normal
|sprite3=Spr 3f 020.png|p3=Raticate|item3=None|gender3=|ability3=Guts|level3=16|types3=1|type13=Normal|p3m1=Tackle|p3m1t=Normal|p3m2=Tail Whip|p3m2t=Normal|p3m3=Quick Attack|p3m3t=Normal|p3m4=Hyper Fang|p3m4t=Normal}}
{{PartyDiv|color=FFDDDD}}
{{PartyBody31|color=FFDDDD|
sprite1=Spr 3f 064.png|p1=Kadabra|item1=None|gender1=|ability1=Unknown|level1=18|types1=1|type11=Psychic|p1m1=Teleport|p1m1t=Psychic|p1m2=Confusion|p1m2t=Psychic|p1m3=Disable|p1m3t=Normal}}
{{PartyFooter|color=FFDDDD}}

If the {{Player}} chose {{p|Squirtle}}:
{{PartyHeader|color=FFDDDD|sprite=Blue2.png|prize={{pdollar}}[[Pokémon Dollar|720]]|class=[[Rival]]|name=Blue|game={{2v2|FireRed|LeafGreen}}|location=[[S.S. Anne]]}}
{{PartyBody33|color=FFDDDD|
sprite1=Spr 3f 002.png|p1=Ivysaur|item1=None|gender1=|ability1=Overgrow|level1=20|types1=2|type11=Grass|type21=Poison|p1m1=Tackle|p1m1t=Normal|p1m2=Growl|p1m2t=Normal|p1m3=Leech Seed|p1m3t=Grass|p1m4=Vine Whip|p1m4t=Grass
|sprite2=Spr 3f 017.png|p2=Pidgeotto|item2=None|gender2=|ability2=Keen Eye|level2=19|types2=2|type12=Normal|type22=Flying|p2m1=Tackle|p2m1t=Normal|p2m2=Gust|p2m2t=Flying|p2m3=Sand-Attack|p2m3t=Ground|p2m4=Quick Attack|p2m4t=Normal
|sprite3=Spr 3f 020.png|p3=Raticate|item3=None|gender3=|ability3=Guts|level3=16|types3=1|type13=Normal|p3m1=Tackle|p3m1t=Normal|p3m2=Tail Whip|p3m2t=Normal|p3m3=Quick Attack|p3m3t=Normal|p3m4=Hyper Fang|p3m4t=Normal}}
{{PartyDiv|color=FFDDDD}}
{{PartyBody31|color=FFDDDD|
sprite1=Spr 3f 064.png|p1=Kadabra|item1=None|gender1=|ability1=Unknown|level1=18|types1=1|type11=Psychic|p1m1=Teleport|p1m1t=Psychic|p1m2=Confusion|p1m2t=Psychic|p1m3=Disable|p1m3t=Normal}}
{{PartyFooter|color=FFDDDD}}

===Rumors===
In Pokémon {{3v2|Red|Blue|Yellow}}, as well as their remakes {{2v2|FireRed|LeafGreen}}, there is a truck which appears in the [[Vermilion Harbor|S.S. Anne's port]] which serves no evident purpose except as scenery. With scenery being very sparse in the [[Generation I]] games, and this being one of the few sprites with no other purpose than to exist in one spot, fans began speculating that another purpose existed for this truck, and that it could perhaps be moved with {{m|Strength}}. Thus, a popular rumor sprang up that a [[Poké Ball]] containing {{p|Mew}} could be found underneath. [[Image:Thetruckreturns.png|thumb|left|250px|The truck, as it appears in {{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}}.]] The only flaw with this was that the [[HM]] for {{m|Strength}} could only be obtained after getting Cut, which required the S.S. Anne leaving. Players found ways around this by trading Pokémon knowing Cut to other games which did not have the HM. The rumor was proven false.

Another method to prevent the ship setting sail was to challenge a Trainer after obtaining Cut, and losing the battle on purpose. The player would be teleported to the Pokémon Center in Vermilion City, and the ship would not leave the dock, making it accessible later in the game when the player had obtained Strength and Surf. However, leaving the ship there wasn't necessary, since the [[Generation I]] games have a [[glitch]] that causes the ship to reappear after it has left, with all trainers unbeaten and all items obtainable. [[image:Originaltruck.png|thumb|right|250px|The original truck.]]To perform this glitch, the player must stand one tile above and to the left of the sailor guarding the harbor; take a step right and hit the Start button at the same time, causing the menu to pop up; save and reboot; verify that the player is facing right and without moving, select a Pokémon to Surf and verify that it will be surfing on top of the sailor and walk down to the harbor, where the S.S. Anne sits at the dock.

In the [[Generation III]] remakes of Red and Green, the truck is still present, however, there is actually something of a point to get to it this time around. On its pier, if the player walks down a bit, they can find a {{DL|Status ailment healing item|Lava Cookie}}, unavailable until [[Sevii Islands|later in the game]]. This could possibly have been put into the game as a reference to the old rumors.

After the S.S. Anne leaves Vermilion City, it never returns. However, some players spread another rumor about it in the Generation I games; by defeating the Elite Four 365 times, players would supposedly make the ship return with more powerful opponents on board. This was supported by an NPC in {{2v2|Red|Blue}} explaining that the ship was a luxury liner for Trainers that visited Vermilion once a year. However, there was no way to make time pass in {{2v2|Red|Blue}}, so this was obviously just a hoax to get people to try something tedious and stupid.

Another rumor is that the S.S. Anne was originally intended to be in {{2v2|Diamond|Pearl}}, supported by the existence of the {{DL|List of key items in Generation I|S.S. Ticket}}, an unobtainable item that was left in the coding, and can only be accessed with the use of a cheating device. Many people have rumoured that taking the {{ci|Canalave}} ship while holding the item will take them to a fully 3D rendered version of [[Kanto]]. This has been proven to be false. It is possible that the item exists in the game to act as a placeholder, as the S.S. Anne may appear in {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}.

==In the anime==
The St. Anne appeared in ''[[EP015|Battle Aboard the St. Anne]]'' and ''[[EP016|Pokémon Shipwreck]]''.

{{Ash}}, [[Misty]] and [[Brock]] boarded the ship after two schoolgirls, who were actually [[Jessie]] and [[James]] in disguise, offered them free tickets. This was part of a [[Team Rocket]] plot to steal the [[Pokémon]] of all {{pkmn|Trainer}}s on board. However, Ash and his friends enjoyed the St. Anne, which provided large amounts of food for people on board and allowed [[Pokémon battle]]s below deck. While on board, James was swindled by the [[Magikarp Salesman]] into buying a {{TP|James|Magikarp}} in a gold-plated Poké Ball, and Ash traded his {{AP|Butterfree}} to a Gentleman for a {{AP|Raticate}}.

Out on the open ocean, Team Rocket, including Jessie, James, {{MTR}}, and a number of [[Team Rocket Grunt]]s began taking the Pokémon of everyone else on board the St. Anne by force. Ash led a counterattack against the Rockets, leading to a large battle and many of the members of Team Rocket being 'blasted off' through the side of the ship.

Afterwards, the St. Anne started taking on water, and the passengers had to be evacuated. Ash delayed evacuating to trade back the Raticate for his Butterfree, and while rushing to escape the St. Anne jerked and knocked out Ash, his friends, and the Rocket trio. When they awoke, the St. Anne was upside down and underwater, balancing on a {{wp|seamount}}.

The two groups fought at first, but Misty took charge and began directing all of them in an emergency escape plan before the ship fell into the depths of the sea floor. Since the ship was upside down, they would need to escape through the thinnest point in its [[wp:hull (watercraft)|hull]], which Misty knew was in the engine room, having built a model of the ship herself. They made their way through the ship to this point, and then Ash ordered his {{AP|Charmander}} to burn a hole in the hull. With the help of {{AP|Squirtle}}, {{TP|Misty|Goldeen}} and {{TP|Misty|Starmie}}, Ash and his friends were able to swim to safety, while Team Rocket nearly drowned since all they had to rely on was James's Magikarp, which could only {{m|Splash}} around on the floor.

Once everyone was off board, the St. Anne's balance tilted, and it fell off the seamount, down towards the [[wp:abyssal zone|abyss]], never to be seen again.

==In the manga==
===In the Pokémon Special manga===
The S.S. Anne is a huge cargo ship owned by [[Lt. Surge]] that arrives in [[Vermilion City]] port once every month. It has appeared in ''[[PS010|Danger: High Voltorb]]'' and ''[[PS011|Buzz Off, Electabuzz!]]''
supposedly transporting materials from Vermilion to [[Cinnabar Island]]; the truth is that it is used to transport the citizens' Pokémon, kidnapped by Surge and his [[Sailor]]s. {{p|Voltorb}}, {{p|Electrode}}, {{p|Magnemite}}, {{p|Magneton}} and {{p|Electabuzz}} are some of the Pokémon spotted aboard.

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2009-01-23T16:29:55Z

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2009-01-12T20:12:10Z

Origamiguy: /* Sprites */ new section

== Hybirds? ==

Are you sure you didn't mean '''Hybrids'''? --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 05:57, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

:Not sure ask the {{u|Foper|user}} who made this page they made to many mistakes so ask that user.--[[wp:Halloween|'''☆''']][[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチュウ!''']] 06:01, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
::Like what? Anyway thanks for pointing that out... I thought it was hybird! --[[User:Foper|Foper]] 06:02, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

== Oughtn't there be 501 hybrids, not 494? ==

As Deoxys's and Wormadam's alternate forms have their own index numbers... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:12, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

== Sprites ==

the sprites glitch around a bit when attacked and when they escape a pokeball. should this be mentioned? '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|f80|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|f80|Ori}}{{Colored link|User:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|08f|gami}}''' 20:12, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Arceus (Pokémon)/Archive 2

2009-01-11T11:28:15Z

Origamiguy: /* Animated sprite. */

<big><big><big>'''HEY GUYS GUESS WHAT. THE PAGE HAS CODING ON IT SO THAT THE TYPE WILL CHANGE RANDOMLY (or not so much, really just according to the time). DON'T ASK WHY ARCEUS IS A {{UC:{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|0=???|1=Normal|2=Fighting|3=Flying|4=Poison|5=Ground|6=Rock|7=Bug|8=Ghost|9=Steel|10=Fire|11=Water|12=Grass|13=Electric|14=Psychic|15=Ice|16=Dragon|17=Dark}}}}- TYPE! It just IS!'''</big></big></big> (Also keep in mind that it doesn't matter which type it is; you guys are smart, you can tell what moves are STAB for which plate... I hope...)
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==Archives==
*[[/Archive 1|Archive 1]] (discussions from October 13, 2006 – December 13, 2008)

== Hmmm.... ==

Is the color and box from the Tutoring Moveset (I think) supposed to be expanding past the sprite box? I see the Rock type stuff, if that matters. (No, I don't think it is my browser, other Pokémon's pages are still fine) [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 14:13, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
:I have fixed it stop the problem was that he closed the time, not the tutor box stop[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]

==Out of intrest==

Has anyone tried to see if Arceus' ??? type forme is in PBR? [[User:Zsaberslash|Zsaberslash]] 20:52, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
:And possibly in Platinum, as well? In a method other than cheating? --[[User:Bulbapedian|Bulbapedian]] - [[User talk:Bulbapedian|Talk]] 20:55, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

== Picture ==

Instead of fanart
...shouldn't we use something OFFICIAL
even if its just a PBR screenshot, or a sprite
--[[User:LilRed|LilRed]] 00:11, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
:The fanart fulfills our needs best. Besides, the official artwork is only a couple of months away now. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 00:32, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
::If they'll release an official artwork of Arceus, does it mean that Arceus is officially released also?[[User:Palkia38|Palkia38]] 06:54, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Yes, this is what it would seem like. It's predicted to be released at a similar time to the next movie. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 06:56, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

== Reveal ==

Looking at Darkrai and Shaymin's, it seems that the reveal will be just around February 14, 2009. Isn't that convenient. So I'd like to notify you all... don't bother with it until then. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:52, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

== ???-type Explanation Doesn't Make Sense ==

One of our members brought up a good point about the explanation (in this article) about why Nintendo put the ??? Arceus in the game. We think that it was put in because Nintendo's code for Multitype required a sprite to be filled for every single type. This is our best guess, and I certainly think it's more plausible than "preventing game crashes for hackers." Hackers can crash the game quite easily otherwise - why would they prevent it in one way when we can do it in a thousand other ways? Remember, Nintendo doesn't care for or even acknowledge hackers. -[[User:Coolbho3000|Coolbho3000]] 00:33, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

== Animated sprite. ==

It doesn't change for me. It's just the regular Arceus. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 00:57, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
:you maam are using Internet Explorer. that is an animated .png, which your browser does not support. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 00:59, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
::Don't you think that's a little unfair for people who prefer to user IE? What's wrong with just using a gif file? --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 01:02, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
:::lesser quality. take it up with TTE. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 01:03, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
:::You should use Firefox. D: -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 01:05, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
::::I have used it and I hated it. It made my computer move incredibly slow. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 01:16, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::How many addons did you give it? That's usually what kills it. I mean, mine's running using 118,784K, next most is Windows Explorer with not even 10% of that much. It's a given with the 13 extensions I have for it... Anyway, Opera's most recent release supports anipngs too, or so I've heard. Given, I plan to make ''that'' specific spritecycle a gif again, since the whole point of that is to animate. Other anipngs you don't lose much with them being not animated. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:35, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::Google chrome doesn't accept anipngs, and firefox takes an age to start up for me. I also hate IE. '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|f80|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|f80|Ori}}{{Colored link|User:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|08f|gami}}''' 11:28, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

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Arceus (Pokémon)

2009-01-10T21:31:55Z

Origamiguy: Maybe it is, but not for me, and presumably other users, so technically it's wrong.

{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Shaymin | next=Bulbasaur }}
{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Arceus |
jname=アルセウス |
tmname=Arseus |
image=ArceusDP.png |
caption=Fan artwork of Arceus (due to Arceus not having been officially revealed to the public yet, it does not have any official artwork created and revealed by Sugimori) |
pron=<sc>ar-siyuhs</sc> (pronunciation in PBR)|
ndex=493 |
typen=1 |
type1=Normal |
type2= |
species=Alpha |
height-ftin=10′06″ |
height-m=3.2 |
weight-lbs=705.5 |
weight-kg=320.0 |
abilityn=1 |
ability1=Multitype |
ability2= |
egggroupn=0 |
egggroup1=No eggs |
egggroup2= |
hatchsteps=30,720 |
effortyield=3 HP |
expyield=255 |
lv100exp=1,250,000 |
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'''Arceus''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''アルセウス''' ''Arseus'') is a {{type2|Normal}} [[legendary Pokémon]].

It is not known to evolve into or from any other Pokémon.

Arceus is currently the final Pokémon in the [[List of Pokémon by National Dex number|National Pokédex]].

Arceus is known as "The Original One," as it is said that it created the {{g|universe}} and the [[lake trio]]. The only known way to get Arceus is with the [[Azure Flute]] (also known as The Key of Space and Time). As of 2009, Arceus is currently the only Pokémon known that has not yet been officially revealed by Nintendo.

Due to special coding in place on the page to illustrate Arceus's wildcard ability, {{a|Multitype}}, all type-themed appearances will display Arceus as if it {{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|1=were not holding a [[plate]]|0=has been [[cheating|hacked]]|were holding the [[{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|2=Fist|3=Sky|4=Toxic|5=Earth|6=Stone|7=Insect|8=Spooky|9=Iron|10=Flame|11=Splash|12=Meadow|13=Zap|14=Mind|15=Icicle|16=Draco|17=Dread}} Plate]]}}, therefore being a {{type2|{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|1=Normal|0=???|2=Fighting|3=Flying|4=Poison|5=Ground|6=Rock|7=Bug|8=Ghost|9=Steel|10=Fire|11=Water|12=Grass|13=Electric|14=Psychic|15=Ice|16=Dragon|17=Dark}}}}. This does not affect anything besides which sprites are shown, which moves are noted as [[STAB]] and the type effectiveness entry which is unhidden. Click [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Arceus_(Pok%C3%A9mon)?action=purge here] to change the type.

==Biology==
===Physiology===
Arceus is an equine being that may be based on a horse-like mammal or {{wp|qilin}}. It might have some traces of a Centaur. Its body is white with a gray underside, and its four pointed feet are tipped with gold hooves. Its mane is quite long and its face is gray with green eyes with red pupils. It also has a gold cross-like wheel attached to its body, which changes color along with its eyes and hooves based on Arceus's current type. The wheel also has four emerald-like jewels attached to it.

====Gender differences====
Arceus is genderless.

====Special abilities====
According to legend, Arceus created the universe, the first {{p|Palkia}} and {{p|Dialga}}, {{p|Giratina}}, and the [[lake trio]].

While Arceus may be a pure {{type2|Normal}}, due to Arceus's {{a|Multitype}} [[ability]] its type can change into any of the other 16 types depending on what type of special [[plate]] it holds.

Arceus's [[signature move]], {{m|Judgment}}, also changes its type depending on the type of special plate Arceus is holding. Arceus also has the ability to use several attacks of various types, but to a lesser extent than {{p|Smeargle}} or even {{p|Mew}}.

===Behavior===
===Habitat===
Arceus lives at the [[Hall of Origin]] which can only be accessed by use of the [[Azure Flute]] at the Spear Pillar.

===Diet===
{{main|Pokémon food}}

==In the anime==
Arceus has not appeared, as it has not yet been officially revealed. Many fans expect it to star in ''[[To the Conquering of Space-Time]]'' when it is revealed, much as {{p|Darkrai}} starred in ''[[The Rise of Darkrai]]'' and {{p|Shaymin}} starred in ''[[Giratina and the Sky Warrior]]''.

==In the manga==
Arceus has not made any manga appearances yet, as it has not been officially revealed.

==In the TCG==
Arceus remains, as of the present, the only Pokémon not yet featured on a TCG card, as it has not officially been revealed.

==Game data==
===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex
|type=arceus
|gen=4
|diamonddex=It is described in mythology as the Pokémon that shaped the universe with its 1,000 arms.
|pearldex=It is told in mythology that this Pokémon was born before the universe even existed.
|platinumdex={{tt|JP|Unofficial translation of the Japanese entry}} It appeared from within an egg floating through the void and created the world as we know it.
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===Game locations===
{{Availability|
type=arceus |
gen=4 |
dprarity=One |
dparea=[[Hall of Origin]] (requires [[Azure Flute]]) |
ptrarity=One |
ptarea=[[Hall of Origin]] (requires [[Azure Flute]]) |
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====In side games====
Arceus hasn't appeared in any side games as of yet.

===Base stats===
{{BaseStats|
type=arceus|
HP=120 |
Attack=120 |
Defense=120 |
SpAtk=120 |
SpDef=120 |
Speed=120 }}

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====No plate equipped====
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type1=Normal|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting=200 |
Flying= 100 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 100 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 100 |
Ghost= 0 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 100 |
Water= 100 |
Grass= 100 |
Electric=100 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 100 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 }}
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====With Fist Plate====
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Normal= 100 |
Fighting=100 |
Flying= 200 |
Poison= 100|
Ground= 100 |
Rock= 50 |
Bug= 50 |
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Steel= 100 |

Fire= 100 |
Water= 100 |
Grass= 100 |
Electric=100 |
Psychic= 200 |
Ice= 100 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 50 }}
|- class="{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|3=collapsible|expandable}}"
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====With Sky Plate====
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Normal= 100 |
Fighting=50 |
Flying= 100 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 0 |
Rock= 200 |
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Steel= 100 |

Fire= 100 |
Water= 100 |
Grass= 50 |
Electric=200 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 200 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 |

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|- class="{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|4=collapsible|expandable}}"
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====With Toxic Plate====
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Normal= 100 |
Fighting=50 |
Flying= 100 |
Poison= 50 |
Ground= 200 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 50 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 100 |
Water= 100 |
Grass= 50 |
Electric=100 |
Psychic= 200 |
Ice= 100 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 }}
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====With Earth Plate====
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Fighting=100 |
Flying= 100 |
Poison= 50 |
Ground= 100 |
Rock= 50 |
Bug= 100 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 100 |
Water= 200 |
Grass= 200 |
Electric=0 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 200 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 }}
|- class="{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|6=collapsible|expandable}}"
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====With Stone Plate====
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Normal= 50 |
Fighting=200 |
Flying= 50 |
Poison= 50 |
Ground= 200 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 100 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 200 |

Fire= 50 |
Water= 200 |
Grass= 200 |
Electric=100 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 100 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 }}
|- class="{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|7=collapsible|expandable}}"
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====With Insect Plate====
|-
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{{DP type effectiveness|
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Normal= 100 |
Fighting=50 |
Flying= 200 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 50 |
Rock= 200 |
Bug= 100 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 200 |
Water= 100 |
Grass= 50 |
Electric=100 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 100 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 }}
|- class="{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|8=collapsible|expandable}}"
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====With Spooky Plate====
|-
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{{DP type effectiveness|
type1=Ghost|
Normal= 0 |
Fighting=0 |
Flying= 100 |
Poison= 50 |
Ground= 100 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 50 |
Ghost= 200 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 100 |
Water= 100 |
Grass= 100 |
Electric=100 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 100 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 200 |

notes=yes|
ghost=yes|
newnormal=1|
newfighting=1}}
|- class="{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|9=collapsible|expandable}}"
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====With Iron Plate====
|-
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{{DP type effectiveness|
type1=Steel|
Normal= 50 |
Fighting=200 |
Flying= 50 |
Poison= 0 |
Ground= 200 |
Rock= 50 |
Bug= 50 |
Ghost= 50 |
Steel= 50 |

Fire= 200 |
Water= 100 |
Grass= 50 |
Electric=100 |
Psychic= 50 |
Ice= 50 |
Dragon= 50 |
Dark= 50 }}
|- class="{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|10=collapsible|expandable}}"
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====With Flame Plate====
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{{DP type effectiveness|
type1=Fire|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting=100 |
Flying= 100 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 200 |
Rock= 200 |
Bug= 50 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 50 |

Fire= 50 |
Water= 200 |
Grass= 50 |
Electric=100 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 50 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 }}
|- class="{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|11=collapsible|expandable}}"
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====With Splash Plate====
|-
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{{DP type effectiveness|
type1=Water|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting=100 |
Flying= 100 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 100 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 100 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 50 |

Fire= 50 |
Water= 50 |
Grass= 200 |
Electric=200 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 50 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 }}
|- class="{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|12=collapsible|expandable}}"
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====With Meadow Plate====
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{{DP type effectiveness|
type1=grass|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting=100 |
Flying= 200 |
Poison= 200 |
Ground= 50 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 200 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 200 |
Water= 50 |
Grass= 50 |
Electric=50 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 200 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 }}
|- class="{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|13=collapsible|expandable}}"
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====With Zap Plate====
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{{DP type effectiveness|
type1=Electric|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting=100 |
Flying= 50 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 200 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 100 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 50 |

Fire= 100 |
Water= 100 |
Grass= 100 |
Electric=50 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 100 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 }}
|- class="{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|14=collapsible|expandable}}"
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====With Mind Plate====
|-
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{{DP type effectiveness|
type1=Psychic|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting=50 |
Flying= 100 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 100 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 200 |
Ghost= 200 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 100 |
Water= 100 |
Grass= 100 |
Electric=100 |
Psychic= 50 |
Ice= 100 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 200 }}
|- class="{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|15=collapsible|expandable}}"
|
====With Icicle Plate====
|-
|
{{DP type effectiveness|
type1=Ice|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting=200 |
Flying= 100 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 100 |
Rock= 200 |
Bug= 100 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 200 |

Fire= 200 |
Water= 100 |
Grass= 100 |
Electric=100 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 50 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 }}
|- class="{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|16=collapsible|expandable}}"
|
====With Draco Plate====
|-
|
{{DP type effectiveness|
type1=Dragon|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting=100 |
Flying= 100 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 100 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 100 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 50 |
Water= 50 |
Grass= 50 |
Electric=50 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 200 |
Dragon= 200 |
Dark= 100 }}
|- class="{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|17=collapsible|expandable}}"
|
====With Dread Plate====
|-
|
{{DP type effectiveness|
type1=Dark|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting=200 |
Flying= 100 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 100 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 200 |
Ghost= 50 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 100 |
Water= 100 |
Grass= 100 |
Electric=100 |
Psychic= 0 |
Ice= 100 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 50 |

notes=yes|
dark=yes|
newpsychic=1}}
|}

===Learnset===
Arceus is capable of learning the following moves:

Moves in bold get [[Same-type attack bonus|STAB]] for the {{type2|{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}
|0=???
|1=Normal
|2=Fighting
|3=Flying
|4=Poison
|5=Ground
|6=Rock
|7=Bug
|8=Ghost
|9=Steel
|10=Fire
|11=Water
|12=Grass
|13=Electric
|14=Psychic
|15=Ice
|16=Dragon
|17=Dark}}}}, meaning that Arceus {{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|1=cannot be holding any [[plate]]|0=has been [[cheating|hacked]]|must be holding the [[{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|2=Fist|3=Sky|4=Toxic|5=Earth|6=Stone|7=Insect|8=Spooky|9=Iron|10=Flame|11=Splash|12=Meadow|13=Zap|14=Mind|15=Icicle|16=Draco|17=Dread}} Plate]]}}. {{m|Judgement}}, the type of which is dependent on the plate Arceus is holding (or lack thereof) will always receive STAB, while damaging moves of other types can receive STAB depending on which plate Arceus holds.
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====

{{movelist|arceus|arceus|4|4|Arceus}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Seismic Toss|Fighting|Physical|—|100|20|Tough|3||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|2='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Cosmic Power|Psychic|Status|—|—|20|Cool|0}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Natural Gift|Normal|Physical|—|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Punishment|Dark|Physical|—|100|5|Smart|1||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|17='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|10|Gravity|Psychic|Status|—|—|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|20|Earth Power|Ground|Special|90|100|10|Smart|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|5='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|30|Hyper Voice|Normal|Special|90|100|10|Cool|3||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|1='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|40|ExtremeSpeed|Normal|Physical|80|100|5|Cool|3||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|1='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|50|Refresh|Normal|Status|—|—|20|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|60|Future Sight|Psychic|Special|80|90|15|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|70|Recover|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|80|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|5|Cool|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|1='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|90|Perish Song|Normal|Status|—|—|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|100|Judgment|Arceus|Special|100|100|10|Smart|2||'''}}
{{movelist/note|4|arceus}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{movelisttm|arceus|arceus|4|4|Arceus}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM02]]|Dragon Claw|Dragon|Physical|80|100|15|Cool|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|16='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM03]]|Water Pulse|Water|Special|60|100|20|Beauty|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|11='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM04]]|Calm Mind|Psychic|Status|—|—|20|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM05]]|Roar|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM06]]|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|85|10|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM07]]|Hail|Ice|Status|—|—|10|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM09]]|Bullet Seed|Grass|Physical|10|100|30|Cool|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|12='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM10]]|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|—|100|15|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM11]]|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|—|—|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM13]]|Ice Beam|Ice|Special|95|100|10|Beauty|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|15='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM14]]|Blizzard|Ice|Special|120|70|5|Beauty|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|15='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM15]]|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|5|Cool|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|1='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM16]]|Light Screen|Psychic|Status|—|—|30|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM17]]|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM18]]|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM19]]|Giga Drain|Grass|Special|60|100|10|Smart|1||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|12='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM20]]|Safeguard|Normal|Status|—|—|25|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM21]]|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|1='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM22]]|SolarBeam|Grass|Special|120|100|10|Cool|1||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|12='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM23]]|Iron Tail|Steel|Physical|100|75|15|Cool|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|9='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM24]]|Thunderbolt|Electric|Special|95|100|15|Cool|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|13='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM25]]|Thunder|Electric|Special|120|70|10|Cool|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|13='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM26]]|Earthquake|Ground|Physical|100|100|10|Tough|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|5='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM27]]|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|1='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM29]]|Psychic|Psychic|Special|90|100|10|Smart|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|14='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM30]]|Shadow Ball|Ghost|Special|80|100|15|Smart|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|8='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM31]]|Brick Break|Fighting|Physical|75|100|15|Cool|3||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|2='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM32]]|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM33]]|Reflect|Psychic|Status|—|—|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM34]]|Shock Wave|Electric|Special|60|—|20|Cool|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|13='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM35]]|Flamethrower|Fire|Special|95|100|15|Beauty|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|10='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM36]]|Sludge Bomb|Poison|Special|90|100|10|Tough|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|4='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM37]]|Sandstorm|Rock|Status|—|—|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM38]]|Fire Blast|Fire|Special|120|85|5|Beauty|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|10='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM39]]|Rock Tomb|Rock|Physical|50|80|10|Smart|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|6='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM40]]|Aerial Ace|Flying|Physical|60|—|20|Cool|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|3='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM42]]|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Cute|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|1='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM43]]|Secret Power|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Smart|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|1='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM44]]|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM50]]|Overheat|Fire|Special|140|90|5|Beauty|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|10='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM52]]|Focus Blast|Fighting|Special|120|70|5|Cool|0||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|2='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM53]]|Energy Ball|Grass|Special|80|100|10|Beauty|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|12='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM55]]|Brine|Water|Special|65|100|10|Smart|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|11='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM57]]|Charge Beam|Electric|Special|50|90|10|Beauty|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|13='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM58]]|Endure|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM59]]|Dragon Pulse|Dragon|Special|90|100|10|Smart|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|16='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM61]]|Will-O-Wisp|Fire|Status|—|75|15|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM62]]|Silver Wind|Bug|Special|60|100|5|Beauty|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|7='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM65]]|Shadow Claw|Ghost|Physical|70|100|15|Cute|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|8='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM66]]|Payback|Dark|Physical|50|100|10|Cool|1||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|17='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM67]]|Recycle|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM68]]|Giga Impact|Normal|Physical|150|90|5|Beauty|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|1='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM70]]|Flash|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM71]]|Stone Edge|Rock|Physical|100|80|5|Tough|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|6='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM72]]|Avalanche|Ice|Physical|60|100|10|Cool|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|15='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM73]]|Thunder Wave|Electric|Status|—|100|10|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM75]]|Swords Dance|Normal|Status|—|—|30|Beauty|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM76]]|Stealth Rock|Rock|Status|—|—|20|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM77]]|Psych Up|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM79]]|Dark Pulse|Dark|Special|80|100|15|Cool|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|17='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM80]]|Rock Slide|Rock|Physical|75|90|10|Tough|3||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|6='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM81]]|X-Scissor|Bug|Physical|80|100|15|Beauty|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|7='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM82]]|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM83]]|Natural Gift|Normal|Physical|—|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM84]]|Poison Jab|Poison|Physical|80|100|20|Smart|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|4='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM85]]|Dream Eater|Psychic|Special|100|100|15|Smart|1||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|14='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM86]]|Grass Knot|Grass|Special|—|100|20|Smart|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|12='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM87]]|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM90]]|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM91]]|Flash Cannon|Steel|Special|80|100|10|Smart|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|9='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM92]]|Trick Room|Psychic|Status|—|—|5|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM01]]|Cut|Normal|Physical|50|95|30|Cool|3||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|1='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM02]]|Fly|Flying|Physical|90|95|15|Smart|1||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|3='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM03]]|Surf|Water|Special|95|100|15|Beauty|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|11='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM04]]|Strength|Normal|Physical|80|100|15|Tough|3||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|1='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM05]]|Defog|Flying|Status|—|—|15|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM06]]|Rock Smash|Fighting|Physical|40|100|15|Tough|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|2='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM07]]|Waterfall|Water|Physical|80|100|15|Tough|3||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|11='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM08]]|Rock Climb|Normal|Physical|90|85|20|Cool|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|1='''}}}}
{{movelist/note|4|arceus}}

====By [[Move tutor|tutoring]]====
{{tutor|arceus|arceus|4a|4|Arceus}}
{{mtentry4a|AncientPower|Rock|Special|60|100|5|Tough|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|6='''}}|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Aqua Tail|Water|Physical|90|90|10|Cute|3||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|11='''}}|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Dive|Water|Physical|80|100|10|Beauty|1||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|11='''}}|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Draco Meteor|Dragon|Special|140|90|5|Smart|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|16='''}}|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Earth Power|Ground|Special|90|100|10|Smart|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|5='''}}|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Fury Cutter|Bug|Physical|10|95|20|Cool|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|7='''}}|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Heat Wave|Fire|Special|100|90|10|Beauty|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|10='''}}|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Icy Wind|Ice|Special|55|95|15|Beauty|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|15='''}}|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Iron Defense|Steel|Status|—|—|15|Beauty|1|||no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Iron Head|Steel|Physical|80|100|15|Tough|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|9='''}}|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Last Resort|Normal|Physical|130|100|5|Cute|0||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|1='''}}|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Mud-Slap|Ground|Special|20|100|10|Cute|3||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|5='''}}|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Ominous Wind|Ghost|Special|60|100|5|Smart|0||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|8='''}}|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Outrage|Dragon|Physical|120|100|15|Cool|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|16='''}}|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Signal Beam|Bug|Special|75|100|15|Beauty|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|7='''}}|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Snore|Normal|Special|40|100|15|Cute|3||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|1='''}}|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Trick|Psychic|Status|—|100|10|Smart|0|||no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Twister|Dragon|Special|40|100|20|Cool|3||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|16='''}}|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Zen Headbutt|Psychic|Physical|80|90|15|Beauty|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|14='''}}|no|yes}}
|-
| colspan="11" | '''Bold''' indicates a move that gets [[Same type attack bonus|STAB]] ''Italic'' indicates a move that gets STAB only from an evolution of this Pokémon Arceus must be holding the [[Draco Plate]] when Draco Meteor is taught.
|}
|}


===Evolution===
{{evobox/0formes17}}

===Sprites===
{{Sprite|
type=arceus|
gen=4|
gender=18formes|
ndex=493|
name=Arceus|
animated=1|
}}

==Trivia==
[[Image:Spr 4p 493-Unknown.png|thumb|left|Normal-color sprite for {{type2|???}} Arceus]][[Image:Spr 4p 493-Unknown s.png|thumb|right|[[Alternate coloration|Alternate-color]] sprite for {{type2|???}} Arceus]]
* At level 80, Arceus is the second highest level non-glitch Pokémon available for capture. The highest is {{p|Magikarp}} which can be caught at level 100 in {{game|Platinum}}. It is, however, still the highest level [[legendary]] Pokémon available for capture.
* In its base form, Arceus has the highest [[base stat]] in {{stat|Defense}} of all {{type2|Normal}} Pokémon.
* Arceus has the highest base stat total at 720, while previous Pokémon have had a maximum of 680. However, it does have lower stats in some areas than some other Pokémon, such as having lower {{stat|Speed}} than a {{p|Crobat}}, and having lower {{stat|Attack}} than a {{p|Pinsir}}, and there are several Pokémon that grow at slower rates, such as {{p|Shroomish}}, {{p|Makuhita}}, {{p|Illumise}}, {{p|Gulpin}}, {{p|Wailmer}}, {{p|Seviper}}, {{p|Corphish}}, and {{p|Drifloon}}.
* The code for Diamond and Pearl has sprites for Arceus using its Multitype ability with all 18 types, including {{type2|???}}. It is disputed whether the ???-type Arceus is obtainable, as there is no [[plate]] in the code that can be used for this. It is possible this sprite was programmed in to prevent game crashes caused by tampering with Arceus's type.
* Though Arceus has not been officially revealed, it is possible to use its signature move, {{m|Judgment}}, through {{m|Metronome}}.
* Arceus's signature move, Judgment, is the only move that Arceus is guaranteed [[Same-type attack bonus|STAB]] for, as it is always the same type as Arceus itself. However, on the battle screen, Judgment is always displayed as {{type2|Normal}}.
* Even though it is said that Arceus created the world with its thousand arms, it cannot learn any attacks that use arms or punches besides Seismic Toss. It is also unable to learn every TM and HM, unlike Mew.
* Holding the Sky Plate, Arceus is the only Pokémon able to become a pure {{type2|Flying}} outside of battle (other Pokémon can be in battle through the use of {{m|Conversion}}, {{m|Conversion 2}}, and {{a|Color Change}}).
* With the appropriate [[plate]], Arceus is the only legendary {{t|Poison}}-, {{t|Bug}}-, or {{type2|Fighting}} Pokémon.
* Arceus has its own unique battle music when it is encountered. It shares this trait with {{p|Deoxys}}, as well as {{p|Giratina}} (in {{v2|Platinum}} only).

===Origin===
Arceus may be a reference to the Chinese mythical creature, the {{wp|Qilin}}. Its myth is nearly identical to that of the {{wp|Pangu}}, the Chinese creation deity.

Arceus may also be inspired by (or a representation of) {{wp|Avalokiteśvara}} who, in {{wp|Buddhism}}, is either pictured with eleven heads and one thousand arms (the latter of which is mentioned in Arceus's flavor text) or in a white four-armed manifestation (which could look similar to Arceus's Normal form).

Some inspiration may have come from a {{wp|horse}}, because of its Platinum sprite and attack movements in Pokémon Battle Revolution.

====Name origin====
Arceus's name may come from the words ''arch'' (highest) and ''deus'', which is Latin and Greek for ''god''. It may also have a root in the Latin word ''arcanus'', which means ''secret; sacred mystery''.
Arceus's name may also come from the word ''archaic'' (ancient), which comes from the Greek ''arkhaios''. It could have also come from the Latin word ''archetypus'' (original). Alternatively, Arceus's name can be seen as a portmanteau of ''Zeus'', the most powerful of Greek gods and ''arch'' (highest).

==In other languages==
*[[List of German Pokémon names|German]]: Arceus
*[[List of French Pokémon names|French]]: Arceus
*[[List of Korean Pokémon names|Korean]]: 아르세우스 ''Arceus''

==External links==
* Screenshots of Arceus in Pokémon Battle Revolution: [http://www.pokebeach.com/news/0507/arceus.jpg 1] and [http://www.pokebeach.com/news/0507/arceus2.jpg 2].
==Notes==
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Talk:Catch rate

2009-01-10T12:06:32Z

Origamiguy: /* CatchRate Calculator */ new section

The computer science term for "Floor" is, in fact, "int(", which simply truncates the number. "round(" would make a value like 6.9 become 7; "int(" would make it 6. I believe Zhen is correct in this case. ~Evan
:What was that in reference to? - Jshadias
::Zhen's edit and your subsequent reversion, if I read the history right. ~Evan
:::He was just editing it to make it consistent with my other changes. In any case, the after revision is the right-side column. In any case, trunc() and floor() are the same, but int() is ambiguous. It simply means conversion to integer, which could be rounding or truncating. Wish I could get TeX-rendering working... - [[User:Zhen Lin|刘 (劉) 振霖]] 09:40, 12 Feb 2005 (GMT)

== Is this formula accurate? ==

When using the formula

Chance = floor (((( TotalHP * 4 ) - ( CurrentHP * 2 )) * CatchRate ) / TotalHP ) + Status + 1

with Pokémon with high catch rates (ex. Pidgey and Rattata), the formula says that there should be about a 200% chance to catch a Pidgey at 100% HP. But there isn't a 200% chance or even a 100% chance. I caught 5 Pokémon on Route 1 of FireRed without weakening any of them and I used 15 Pokéballs. Despite the sample size, the fact that the Pokémon escaped even once is enough to raise concern about the formula. Any other thoughts on the matter? -Wild Eep

:Experimental data isn't the same as theoretical results. But then again, methinks you might be misinterpreting the results of using this formula. The formula does not return a percentage, it returns a number, and in order to capture a Pokémon, the randomly generated number between 0 and 255 (or possibly a higher number than that, say, 511) has to be below the number you obtain from this formula. But I'm not the game mechanics expert. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 02:16, 25 November 2005 (CST)

Hmm. . . using the formula for any pokémon at any level with full HP and no status ailments with a catch rate of 255 gives an output of 511. Every site I could find has the exact same formula, and they all say the random number is between 0-255. Those that site sources site [[user:Meowth346|Meowth346]] as their source, so maybe he knows, or can find out. [[User:Slim|Slim]] 15:54, 29 November 2005 (CST)

:Indeed, there seems to be something off with either this formula or the listed CatchRates. Trying to catch a Pokemon simply by chucking a normal Pokeball at it (that is, no damage done, no status changes) simplifies as so:

:Chance = floor (Poké Ball * (((( TotalHP * 4 ) - ( CurrentHP * 2 )) * CatchRate ) / TotalHP ) + Status + 1)

:Chance = floor (1 * (((( TotalHP * 4 ) - ( TotalHP * 2 )) * CatchRate ) / TotalHP ) + 0 + 1)

:Chance = floor ((( TotalHP * 2 * CatchRate ) / TotalHP ) + 1)

:Chance = floor (( 2 * CatchRate ) + 1)

:For any CatchRate of 128 or higher, Chance is at least 257. The random number between 0 and 255 this is compared to will always be less than this, and as a result any Pokemon with a CatchRate of 128 or higher should always be caught simply by chucking a Pokeball at it. Yet this does not seem to be the case -- you can't always catch an Abra this way, despite them having a CatchRate of 200. This should give them a Chance of 401, and thus a 100% catch rate. [[User:Wild Eep|Wild Eep]] and [[User:Slim|Slim]] seem to have noticed the same thing. [[User:Opaopa13|Opaopa13]] 05:12, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

::I just noticed something -- note the following line in the article:
:::'''CurrentHP''' is either the wild Pokémon's current HP, or if its current HP is greater than 255, use ''floor ( '''CurrentHP''' / 4)''.
::It doesn't make sense to simply replace '''CurrentHP''' with ''floor ( '''CurrentHP''' / 4)'' -- that would make for a very strange function, where a Pokemon with 256 HP would be easier to catch than one with 68. Replacing all of ''('''CurrentHP''' * 2 )'' just makes the problem worse. This suggests a typographical error somewhere in either the formula or its explanation.

::I had a hunch, and replaced ''(( '''TotalHP''' * 4 ) - ( '''CurrentHP''' * 2 ))'' with ''(( '''TotalHP''' / 4 ) - ( '''CurrentHP''' / 2 ))''. Unfortunately, that's not right either -- according to that forumla, a Pokemon above 50% health will have a negative Chance value and thus can NEVER be caught. We know that is not the case. However, I suspect something along those lines is the solution. Perhaps one of those multiplications is supposed to be a division instead. Is there any healthy chunk of experimental data to look at? [[User:Opaopa13|Opaopa13]] 05:24, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

The sensible thing to do is to ask someone who knows how to use a debugger/disassembler to investigate this. Unfortunately, the only person I know who can do this is pika. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 06:57, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Examining an emulated copy of Pokemon Red, I did, indeed, find it impossible to NOT catch any Rattata or Pidgey I threw a Pokeball at. I was more than ready to believe this formula were true. But, as Opaopa13 said, we know it isn't, because anyone who has played the Red or Blue versions knows Abra is not so easy to catch.

Interestingly, I tried the same thing on a Pidgey in an emulated copy of the Gold version (throwing a ball at it when it was at full health), and failed to capture it until my third try.

I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT TO BELIEVE! - Pineapple

:It would be easy to explain this if Abra's catch rate was just wrong, but the catch rates must have been data-mined, so that's out. Allow me to be completely speculative here, but perhaps it's something like a rare few Pokemon having an additional chance to escape capture? Or certain catch rates that are influenced by what badges you have? It would be odd to have something like that when the programmers could just alter something's catch rate instead, though...

:Well, we _know_ we get the wrong results for Abra. I'm guessing there was some minor typo somewhere, or else some minor modifier to the formula we aren't aware of.

:On a side-note, I'm still really confused by the "if CurrentHP > 256, use (CurrentHP / 4) instead" thing. I just can't imagine any reason, technical or modelling-wise, where "use CurrentHP = 255" doesn't work just as well or better. Or at least divide by 2! (Pokemon HP never exceeds 1024, right? Thinking in terms of the number of bits it takes to represent these numbers...). [[User:Opaopa13|Opaopa13]] 19:22, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

I think, we should just remove the formula from the page until we can get some authoritative analysis, or otherwise from experimental data. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 06:17, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

I strongly suspect that the only problem with the formula on the site is the 2. I know that's how the old equation simplifies, so the original was probably off as well. 1+INT(B*(2-P)*C+S) makes perfect sense. Then a Pidgey or other Pokemon with a catch rate of 255 is guaranteed to be caught, since at full health and no ailments, you get 256. Any number from 0-255 will be lower than that, so you'll always catch it. On the other hand, a legendary Pokemon with 1/10th of its health left, paralyzed, with an ultra ball thrown an it, is 1+INT(2*1.9*3+5), or 17. 17/256 (since it's a less than roll, not less than or equal to) is about 6.6% (1 in 15). That seems about right, given that it's taken an average of 15-20 ultra balls for me to catch most of the legendaries. The current formula says it would be 28/256, or 10.9% (about 1 in 9), which is definitely not right. Easiest way to test would be to repeatedly try catching something with a catch rate around 120, using a standard ball, and see if it happens about half the time. [[User:Arrkhal|Arrkhal]] 03:50, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

== The correct formula ==

Apparently someone at Smogon found an extremely complex formula on a Japanese website. A good friend of mine simplified it and it seems to be 100% Accurate:

( ( 1 - CurHP * 2 / ( MaxHP * 3 ) ) * Catch * Ball * Status ) / 256

Status:
*1 for Normal
*1.5 for Poisoned, Paralyzed, or Burned
*2 for Asleep or Frozen

Examples:
*A level 2 Rattata, with 13/13 HP, catch rate 255, using a Pokeball. No status effects.
**( ( 1 - 13 * 2 / ( 13 * 3 ) ) * 255 * 1 * 1 ) / 256
**= 0.33203125
**~ 33%
*A level 70 Regigigas, with 1/234 HP, frozen, catch rate 3, using a Dusk ball.
**( ( 1 - 1 * 2 / ( 234 * 3 ) ) * 3 * 4 * 2 ) / 256
**= 0.093482906
**~ 9%

[[User:DanPMK|MK]] 05:51, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
:This does appear to be more reasonable, however, I would like to see this so-called "extremely complex" formula. There may be some rounding going on which affects the precision of the results. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 12:05, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
::The original site had gone down, but thank god for Google cache. [http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:2tdg8lVDQ8wJ:no2.pic.bz/document/ball.html+http://no2.pic.bz/document/ball.html&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us Here]. It appears my friend was a bit exaggerating when he said complex; it's actually just a tad redundant. He reduced it to a simpler form is all. Cheers. [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 08:04, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
:::As I suspected, there is more to it. It seems that the formula result is interpreted in two different ways depending on what the value is. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 12:25, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

== Formula is nowhere near correct ==

I just tried catching a Lv. 13 Feebas at full health (30 HP). I threw three dusk balls at it (while in the cavern, of course), and they all broke. On the fourth try I was able to catch it. It has a catch rate of 255, so according to this formula I have maybe a 400% chance of catching it at full health. Even going by the catch rate alone, I should have had a 100% chance of catching it. This wasn't an atypical situation either. I tried catching a few more before and after this one, and I generally wasn't able to capture them until I weakened them (I caught maybe one or two without hurting it). Once I threw an ultra ball at one, and it immediately broke. I think the pokemon's HP ratio definitely has a lot more to do with catching it than what this formula suggests.

If there are any sources on that other function that someone submitted in here (I don't know how to reply to comments, sorry :<), then that would be really nice. But I tried that equation on the above-mentioned feebas and got (1-(30*2)/(30*3))*255*4*1)/256 (the pokeball page on here says that the dusk ball is 4x in caverns, and Wikipedia says it's twice as good as an ultraball, so I'm going with 4x), which equals 340/256, or 1.328125. This is still above a 100% catch rate on something that seemed like it was maybe 50%. Even going with the assumption that the dusk ball is only 3x better than a pokeball, I still got 255/256, which awfully close to 100%. So unless the dusk ball didn't have its 3x/4x effect (maybe from me fishing in the cavern instead of walking in the cavern?), I don't think this function is true either.

--[[User:Stele007|Stele007]] 18:59, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
:Were you surfing by any chance? There has to be some way to explain this. Feebas is extremely easy to capture regardless. My friend caught several using Quick balls (4x for the first 5 turns) immediately at the start of battle and none of them missed. If you were, perhaps the Dusk balls did not work because of surfing. I know they do work while fishing... [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 06:25, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
:And by several I mean over a dozen. [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 06:28, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

==Safari Zone==

There's something I'd like to ask. In the [[Safari Zone]], you can throw bait and mud in [[Generation IV]]. These are said to make Pokémon easier to catch. However, does anybody know of how EXACTLY do they change the catch rate (Or make them easier to catch somehow)? Thank you. - [[User:JMS|JMS]] 21:27, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
:Actually, I think they alter the percent chance that the Pokémon'll run for it/accuracy of the ball. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 22:53, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

== Trivia... ==

''The appearances of Pokémon such as Nosepass, Tropius, Carnivine, etc., would suggest that their catch rate is low.''
What the hell?!?!? '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|ff8000|gami}}''' 18:44, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

:Yeah... I don't know what that means, either. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 18:49, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

::remove it because it makes no sense? i had thought dialga had a low catch rate when i got the game, and it turns out to be 30, quite high for a legendary... '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|ff8000|gami}}''' 18:50, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
:::I know what it's saying: They look like the kind of Pokémon that would have a lower catch rate than they actually do. That's still based on the player's conjecture and probably not worth noting. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 18:54, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

== Easier explanation? ==

I think there should be an easier explanation included in this article, something of a tl;dr section. To me, this is all mathematical mumbo-jumbo, and I commonly fail anything and everything algebraic. I could honestly care less how the game determines how a pokemon is caught, I just know that I need to lower the HP of the wild Pokémon and possibly inflict a status problem on it to catch it. Also, on major thing that's missing from the article is it doesn't explain if a higher number for a catch rate is better or worse. It may be a dumb question to ask (but I don't honestly get it, either) but you quite often have to write for the five-year-old poké-tards that will be here.
:Higher number for catch rate increases likelihood of capture. It's why Mewtwo's is 3. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:39, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

My brain hurts... too much math... [[User:Diachronos|Diachronos]] 16:55, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Will you please make this article in a way that actually makes sense? It tells me nothing helpful. [[User:Alakazam 2|Alakazam 2]]
:I agree, a simplified, even if less informative, version of this article would probably be more helpful to a lot more users.[[User:Gastly's mama|Gastly's mama]] 15:36, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

== CatchRate Calculator ==

I have written a small catch-rate calculator program. You put in details of the opponent's HP,Max HP, Base CatchRate,status ailment, and choose which ball you are using (along with ball-specific factors), and it tells you the chances of catching the pokemon. Should i include a link on the page? '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|f80|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|f80|Ori}}{{Colored link|User:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|08f|gami}}''' 12:06, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

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Arceus (Pokémon)

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{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Arceus |
jname=アルセウス |
tmname=Arseus |
image=ArceusDP.png |
caption=Fan artwork of Arceus (due to Arceus not having been officially revealed to the public yet, it does not have any official artwork created and revealed by Sugimori) |
pron=<sc>ar-siyuhs</sc> (pronunciation in PBR)|
ndex=493 |
typen=1 |
type1=Normal |
type2= |
species=Alpha |
height-ftin=10′06″ |
height-m=3.2 |
weight-lbs=705.5 |
weight-kg=320.0 |
abilityn=1 |
ability1=Multitype |
ability2= |
egggroupn=0 |
egggroup1=No eggs |
egggroup2= |
hatchsteps=30,720 |
effortyield=3 HP |
expyield=255 |
lv100exp=1,250,000 |
gender=none |
female=0 |
male=0 |
color=Gray |
catchrate=3 |
body= 08|
pokefordex= |
generation=4 |
footnotes= }}
'''Arceus''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''アルセウス''' ''Arseus'') is a {{type2|Normal}} [[legendary Pokémon]].

It is not known to evolve into or from any other Pokémon.

Arceus is currently the final Pokémon in the [[List of Pokémon by National Dex number|National Pokédex]].

Arceus is known as "The Original One," as it is said that it created the {{g|universe}} and the [[lake trio]]. The only known way to get Arceus is with the [[Azure Flute]] (also known as The Key of Space and Time). As of 2009, Arceus is currently the only Pokémon known that has not yet been officially revealed by Nintendo.

Due to special coding in place on the page to illustrate Arceus's wildcard ability, {{a|Multitype}}, all type-themed appearances will display Arceus as if it {{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|1=were not holding a [[plate]]|0=has been [[cheating|hacked]]|were holding the [[{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|2=Fist|3=Sky|4=Toxic|5=Earth|6=Stone|7=Insect|8=Spooky|9=Iron|10=Flame|11=Splash|12=Meadow|13=Zap|14=Mind|15=Icicle|16=Draco|17=Dread}} Plate]]}}, therefore being a {{type2|{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|1=Normal|0=???|2=Fighting|3=Flying|4=Poison|5=Ground|6=Rock|7=Bug|8=Ghost|9=Steel|10=Fire|11=Water|12=Grass|13=Electric|14=Psychic|15=Ice|16=Dragon|17=Dark}}}}. This does not affect anything besides which sprites are shown, which moves are noted as [[STAB]] and the type effectiveness entry which is unhidden. Click [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Arceus_(Pok%C3%A9mon)?action=purge here] to change the type.

==Biology==
===Physiology===
Arceus is an equine being that may be based on a horse-like mammal or {{wp|qilin}}. It might have some traces of a Centaur. Its body is white with a gray underside, and its four pointed feet are tipped with gold hooves. Its mane is quite long and its face is gray with green eyes with red pupils. It also has a gold cross-like wheel attached to its body, which changes color along with its eyes and hooves based on Arceus's current type. The wheel also has four emerald-like jewels attached to it.

====Gender differences====
Arceus is genderless.

====Special abilities====
[[Image:Arceus_Formes.png|right|thumb|An animation displaying Arceus's different colorings while holding plates.]]
According to legend, Arceus created the universe, the first {{p|Palkia}} and {{p|Dialga}}, {{p|Giratina}}, and the [[lake trio]].

While Arceus may be a pure {{type2|Normal}}, due to Arceus's {{a|Multitype}} [[ability]] its type can change into any of the other 16 types depending on what type of special [[plate]] it holds.

Arceus's [[signature move]], {{m|Judgment}}, also changes its type depending on the type of special plate Arceus is holding. Arceus also has the ability to use several attacks of various types, but to a lesser extent than {{p|Smeargle}} or even {{p|Mew}}.

===Behavior===
===Habitat===
Arceus lives at the [[Hall of Origin]] which can only be accessed by use of the [[Azure Flute]] at the Spear Pillar.

===Diet===
{{main|Pokémon food}}

==In the anime==
Arceus has not appeared, as it has not yet been officially revealed. Many fans expect it to star in ''[[To the Conquering of Space-Time]]'' when it is revealed, much as {{p|Darkrai}} starred in ''[[The Rise of Darkrai]]'' and {{p|Shaymin}} starred in ''[[Giratina and the Sky Warrior]]''.

==In the manga==
Arceus has not made any manga appearances yet, as it has not been officially revealed.

==In the TCG==
Arceus remains, as of the present, the only Pokémon not yet featured on a TCG card, as it has not officially been revealed.

==Game data==
===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex
|type=arceus
|gen=4
|diamonddex=It is described in mythology as the Pokémon that shaped the universe with its 1,000 arms.
|pearldex=It is told in mythology that this Pokémon was born before the universe even existed.
|platinumdex={{tt|JP|Unofficial translation of the Japanese entry}} It appeared from within an egg floating through the void and created the world as we know it.
|}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability|
type=arceus |
gen=4 |
dprarity=One |
dparea=[[Hall of Origin]] (requires [[Azure Flute]]) |
ptrarity=One |
ptarea=[[Hall of Origin]] (requires [[Azure Flute]]) |
}}

====In side games====
Arceus hasn't appeared in any side games as of yet.

===Base stats===
{{BaseStats|
type=arceus|
HP=120 |
Attack=120 |
Defense=120 |
SpAtk=120 |
SpDef=120 |
Speed=120 }}

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===Type effectiveness===
|- class="{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|1=collapsible|expandable}}"
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====No plate equipped====
|-
|
{{DP type effectiveness|
type1=Normal|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting=200 |
Flying= 100 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 100 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 100 |
Ghost= 0 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 100 |
Water= 100 |
Grass= 100 |
Electric=100 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 100 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 }}
|- class="{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|2=collapsible|expandable}}"
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====With Fist Plate====
|-
|
{{DP type effectiveness|
type1=Fighting|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting=100 |
Flying= 200 |
Poison= 100|
Ground= 100 |
Rock= 50 |
Bug= 50 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 100 |
Water= 100 |
Grass= 100 |
Electric=100 |
Psychic= 200 |
Ice= 100 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 50 }}
|- class="{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|3=collapsible|expandable}}"
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====With Sky Plate====
|-
|
{{DP type effectiveness|
type1=Flying|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting=50 |
Flying= 100 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 0 |
Rock= 200 |
Bug= 50 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 100 |
Water= 100 |
Grass= 50 |
Electric=200 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 200 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 |

notes=yes|
flying=yes|
newground=1}}
|- class="{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|4=collapsible|expandable}}"
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====With Toxic Plate====
|-
|
{{DP type effectiveness|
type1=Poison|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting=50 |
Flying= 100 |
Poison= 50 |
Ground= 200 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 50 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 100 |
Water= 100 |
Grass= 50 |
Electric=100 |
Psychic= 200 |
Ice= 100 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 }}
|- class="{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|5=collapsible|expandable}}"
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====With Earth Plate====
|-
|
{{DP type effectiveness|
type1=Ground|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting=100 |
Flying= 100 |
Poison= 50 |
Ground= 100 |
Rock= 50 |
Bug= 100 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 100 |
Water= 200 |
Grass= 200 |
Electric=0 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 200 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 }}
|- class="{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|6=collapsible|expandable}}"
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====With Stone Plate====
|-
|
{{DP type effectiveness|
type1=Rock|
Normal= 50 |
Fighting=200 |
Flying= 50 |
Poison= 50 |
Ground= 200 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 100 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 200 |

Fire= 50 |
Water= 200 |
Grass= 200 |
Electric=100 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 100 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 }}
|- class="{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|7=collapsible|expandable}}"
|
====With Insect Plate====
|-
|
{{DP type effectiveness|
type1=Bug|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting=50 |
Flying= 200 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 50 |
Rock= 200 |
Bug= 100 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 200 |
Water= 100 |
Grass= 50 |
Electric=100 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 100 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 }}
|- class="{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|8=collapsible|expandable}}"
|
====With Spooky Plate====
|-
|
{{DP type effectiveness|
type1=Ghost|
Normal= 0 |
Fighting=0 |
Flying= 100 |
Poison= 50 |
Ground= 100 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 50 |
Ghost= 200 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 100 |
Water= 100 |
Grass= 100 |
Electric=100 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 100 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 200 |

notes=yes|
ghost=yes|
newnormal=1|
newfighting=1}}
|- class="{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|9=collapsible|expandable}}"
|
====With Iron Plate====
|-
|
{{DP type effectiveness|
type1=Steel|
Normal= 50 |
Fighting=200 |
Flying= 50 |
Poison= 0 |
Ground= 200 |
Rock= 50 |
Bug= 50 |
Ghost= 50 |
Steel= 50 |

Fire= 200 |
Water= 100 |
Grass= 50 |
Electric=100 |
Psychic= 50 |
Ice= 50 |
Dragon= 50 |
Dark= 50 }}
|- class="{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|10=collapsible|expandable}}"
|
====With Flame Plate====
|-
|
{{DP type effectiveness|
type1=Fire|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting=100 |
Flying= 100 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 200 |
Rock= 200 |
Bug= 50 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 50 |

Fire= 50 |
Water= 200 |
Grass= 50 |
Electric=100 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 50 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 }}
|- class="{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|11=collapsible|expandable}}"
|
====With Splash Plate====
|-
|
{{DP type effectiveness|
type1=Water|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting=100 |
Flying= 100 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 100 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 100 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 50 |

Fire= 50 |
Water= 50 |
Grass= 200 |
Electric=200 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 50 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 }}
|- class="{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|12=collapsible|expandable}}"
|
====With Meadow Plate====
|-
|
{{DP type effectiveness|
type1=grass|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting=100 |
Flying= 200 |
Poison= 200 |
Ground= 50 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 200 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 200 |
Water= 50 |
Grass= 50 |
Electric=50 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 200 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 }}
|- class="{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|13=collapsible|expandable}}"
|
====With Zap Plate====
|-
|
{{DP type effectiveness|
type1=Electric|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting=100 |
Flying= 50 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 200 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 100 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 50 |

Fire= 100 |
Water= 100 |
Grass= 100 |
Electric=50 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 100 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 }}
|- class="{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|14=collapsible|expandable}}"
|
====With Mind Plate====
|-
|
{{DP type effectiveness|
type1=Psychic|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting=50 |
Flying= 100 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 100 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 200 |
Ghost= 200 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 100 |
Water= 100 |
Grass= 100 |
Electric=100 |
Psychic= 50 |
Ice= 100 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 200 }}
|- class="{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|15=collapsible|expandable}}"
|
====With Icicle Plate====
|-
|
{{DP type effectiveness|
type1=Ice|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting=200 |
Flying= 100 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 100 |
Rock= 200 |
Bug= 100 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 200 |

Fire= 200 |
Water= 100 |
Grass= 100 |
Electric=100 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 50 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 }}
|- class="{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|16=collapsible|expandable}}"
|
====With Draco Plate====
|-
|
{{DP type effectiveness|
type1=Dragon|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting=100 |
Flying= 100 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 100 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 100 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 50 |
Water= 50 |
Grass= 50 |
Electric=50 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 200 |
Dragon= 200 |
Dark= 100 }}
|- class="{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|17=collapsible|expandable}}"
|
====With Dread Plate====
|-
|
{{DP type effectiveness|
type1=Dark|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting=200 |
Flying= 100 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 100 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 200 |
Ghost= 50 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 100 |
Water= 100 |
Grass= 100 |
Electric=100 |
Psychic= 0 |
Ice= 100 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 50 |

notes=yes|
dark=yes|
newpsychic=1}}
|}

===Learnset===
Arceus is capable of learning the following moves:

Moves in bold get [[Same-type attack bonus|STAB]] for the {{type2|{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}
|0=???
|1=Normal
|2=Fighting
|3=Flying
|4=Poison
|5=Ground
|6=Rock
|7=Bug
|8=Ghost
|9=Steel
|10=Fire
|11=Water
|12=Grass
|13=Electric
|14=Psychic
|15=Ice
|16=Dragon
|17=Dark}}}}, meaning that Arceus {{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|1=cannot be holding any [[plate]]|0=has been [[cheating|hacked]]|must be holding the [[{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|2=Fist|3=Sky|4=Toxic|5=Earth|6=Stone|7=Insect|8=Spooky|9=Iron|10=Flame|11=Splash|12=Meadow|13=Zap|14=Mind|15=Icicle|16=Draco|17=Dread}} Plate]]}}. {{m|Judgement}}, the type of which is dependent on the plate Arceus is holding (or lack thereof) will always receive STAB, while damaging moves of other types can receive STAB depending on which plate Arceus holds.
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====

{{movelist|arceus|arceus|4|4|Arceus}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Seismic Toss|Fighting|Physical|—|100|20|Tough|3||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|2='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Cosmic Power|Psychic|Status|—|—|20|Cool|0}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Natural Gift|Normal|Physical|—|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Punishment|Dark|Physical|—|100|5|Smart|1||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|17='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|10|Gravity|Psychic|Status|—|—|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|20|Earth Power|Ground|Special|90|100|10|Smart|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|5='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|30|Hyper Voice|Normal|Special|90|100|10|Cool|3||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|1='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|40|ExtremeSpeed|Normal|Physical|80|100|5|Cool|3||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|1='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|50|Refresh|Normal|Status|—|—|20|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|60|Future Sight|Psychic|Special|80|90|15|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|70|Recover|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|80|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|5|Cool|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|1='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|90|Perish Song|Normal|Status|—|—|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|100|Judgment|Arceus|Special|100|100|10|Smart|2||'''}}
{{movelist/note|4|arceus}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{movelisttm|arceus|arceus|4|4|Arceus}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM02]]|Dragon Claw|Dragon|Physical|80|100|15|Cool|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|16='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM03]]|Water Pulse|Water|Special|60|100|20|Beauty|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|11='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM04]]|Calm Mind|Psychic|Status|—|—|20|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM05]]|Roar|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM06]]|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|85|10|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM07]]|Hail|Ice|Status|—|—|10|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM09]]|Bullet Seed|Grass|Physical|10|100|30|Cool|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|12='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM10]]|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|—|100|15|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM11]]|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|—|—|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM13]]|Ice Beam|Ice|Special|95|100|10|Beauty|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|15='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM14]]|Blizzard|Ice|Special|120|70|5|Beauty|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|15='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM15]]|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|5|Cool|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|1='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM16]]|Light Screen|Psychic|Status|—|—|30|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM17]]|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM18]]|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM19]]|Giga Drain|Grass|Special|60|100|10|Smart|1||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|12='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM20]]|Safeguard|Normal|Status|—|—|25|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM21]]|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|1='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM22]]|SolarBeam|Grass|Special|120|100|10|Cool|1||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|12='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM23]]|Iron Tail|Steel|Physical|100|75|15|Cool|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|9='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM24]]|Thunderbolt|Electric|Special|95|100|15|Cool|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|13='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM25]]|Thunder|Electric|Special|120|70|10|Cool|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|13='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM26]]|Earthquake|Ground|Physical|100|100|10|Tough|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|5='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM27]]|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|1='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM29]]|Psychic|Psychic|Special|90|100|10|Smart|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|14='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM30]]|Shadow Ball|Ghost|Special|80|100|15|Smart|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|8='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM31]]|Brick Break|Fighting|Physical|75|100|15|Cool|3||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|2='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM32]]|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM33]]|Reflect|Psychic|Status|—|—|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM34]]|Shock Wave|Electric|Special|60|—|20|Cool|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|13='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM35]]|Flamethrower|Fire|Special|95|100|15|Beauty|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|10='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM36]]|Sludge Bomb|Poison|Special|90|100|10|Tough|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|4='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM37]]|Sandstorm|Rock|Status|—|—|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM38]]|Fire Blast|Fire|Special|120|85|5|Beauty|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|10='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM39]]|Rock Tomb|Rock|Physical|50|80|10|Smart|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|6='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM40]]|Aerial Ace|Flying|Physical|60|—|20|Cool|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|3='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM42]]|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Cute|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|1='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM43]]|Secret Power|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Smart|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|1='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM44]]|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM50]]|Overheat|Fire|Special|140|90|5|Beauty|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|10='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM52]]|Focus Blast|Fighting|Special|120|70|5|Cool|0||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|2='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM53]]|Energy Ball|Grass|Special|80|100|10|Beauty|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|12='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM55]]|Brine|Water|Special|65|100|10|Smart|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|11='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM57]]|Charge Beam|Electric|Special|50|90|10|Beauty|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|13='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM58]]|Endure|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM59]]|Dragon Pulse|Dragon|Special|90|100|10|Smart|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|16='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM61]]|Will-O-Wisp|Fire|Status|—|75|15|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM62]]|Silver Wind|Bug|Special|60|100|5|Beauty|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|7='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM65]]|Shadow Claw|Ghost|Physical|70|100|15|Cute|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|8='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM66]]|Payback|Dark|Physical|50|100|10|Cool|1||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|17='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM67]]|Recycle|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM68]]|Giga Impact|Normal|Physical|150|90|5|Beauty|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|1='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM70]]|Flash|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM71]]|Stone Edge|Rock|Physical|100|80|5|Tough|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|6='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM72]]|Avalanche|Ice|Physical|60|100|10|Cool|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|15='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM73]]|Thunder Wave|Electric|Status|—|100|10|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM75]]|Swords Dance|Normal|Status|—|—|30|Beauty|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM76]]|Stealth Rock|Rock|Status|—|—|20|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM77]]|Psych Up|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM79]]|Dark Pulse|Dark|Special|80|100|15|Cool|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|17='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM80]]|Rock Slide|Rock|Physical|75|90|10|Tough|3||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|6='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM81]]|X-Scissor|Bug|Physical|80|100|15|Beauty|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|7='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM82]]|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM83]]|Natural Gift|Normal|Physical|—|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM84]]|Poison Jab|Poison|Physical|80|100|20|Smart|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|4='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM85]]|Dream Eater|Psychic|Special|100|100|15|Smart|1||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|14='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM86]]|Grass Knot|Grass|Special|—|100|20|Smart|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|12='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM87]]|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM90]]|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM91]]|Flash Cannon|Steel|Special|80|100|10|Smart|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|9='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM92]]|Trick Room|Psychic|Status|—|—|5|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM01]]|Cut|Normal|Physical|50|95|30|Cool|3||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|1='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM02]]|Fly|Flying|Physical|90|95|15|Smart|1||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|3='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM03]]|Surf|Water|Special|95|100|15|Beauty|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|11='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM04]]|Strength|Normal|Physical|80|100|15|Tough|3||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|1='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM05]]|Defog|Flying|Status|—|—|15|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM06]]|Rock Smash|Fighting|Physical|40|100|15|Tough|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|2='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM07]]|Waterfall|Water|Physical|80|100|15|Tough|3||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|11='''}}}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM08]]|Rock Climb|Normal|Physical|90|85|20|Cool|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|1='''}}}}
{{movelist/note|4|arceus}}

====By [[Move tutor|tutoring]]====
{{tutor|arceus|arceus|4a|4|Arceus}}
{{mtentry4a|AncientPower|Rock|Special|60|100|5|Tough|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|6='''}}|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Aqua Tail|Water|Physical|90|90|10|Cute|3||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|11='''}}|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Dive|Water|Physical|80|100|10|Beauty|1||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|11='''}}|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Draco Meteor|Dragon|Special|140|90|5|Smart|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|16='''}}|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Earth Power|Ground|Special|90|100|10|Smart|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|5='''}}|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Fury Cutter|Bug|Physical|10|95|20|Cool|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|7='''}}|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Heat Wave|Fire|Special|100|90|10|Beauty|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|10='''}}|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Icy Wind|Ice|Special|55|95|15|Beauty|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|15='''}}|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Iron Defense|Steel|Status|—|—|15|Beauty|1|||no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Iron Head|Steel|Physical|80|100|15|Tough|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|9='''}}|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Last Resort|Normal|Physical|130|100|5|Cute|0||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|1='''}}|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Mud-Slap|Ground|Special|20|100|10|Cute|3||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|5='''}}|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Ominous Wind|Ghost|Special|60|100|5|Smart|0||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|8='''}}|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Outrage|Dragon|Physical|120|100|15|Cool|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|16='''}}|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Signal Beam|Bug|Special|75|100|15|Beauty|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|7='''}}|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Snore|Normal|Special|40|100|15|Cute|3||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|1='''}}|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Trick|Psychic|Status|—|100|10|Smart|0|||no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Twister|Dragon|Special|40|100|20|Cool|3||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|16='''}}|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Zen Headbutt|Psychic|Physical|80|90|15|Beauty|2||{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|14='''}}|no|yes}}
|-
| colspan="11" | '''Bold''' indicates a move that gets [[Same type attack bonus|STAB]] ''Italic'' indicates a move that gets STAB only from an evolution of this Pokémon Arceus must be holding the [[Draco Plate]] when Draco Meteor is taught.
|}
|}


===Evolution===
{{evobox/0formes17}}

===Sprites===
{{Sprite|
type=arceus|
gen=4|
gender=18formes|
ndex=493|
name=Arceus|
animated=1|
}}

==Trivia==
[[Image:Spr 4p 493-Unknown.png|thumb|left|Normal-color sprite for {{type2|???}} Arceus]][[Image:Spr 4p 493-Unknown s.png|thumb|right|[[Alternate coloration|Alternate-color]] sprite for {{type2|???}} Arceus]]
* At level 80, Arceus is the second highest level non-glitch Pokémon available for capture. The highest is {{p|Magikarp}} which can be caught at level 100 in {{game|Platinum}}. It is, however, still the highest level Legendary Pokémon available for capture.
* In its base form, Arceus has the highest [[base stat]] in {{stat|Defense}} of all {{type2|Normal}} Pokémon.
* Arceus has the highest base stat total at 720, while previous Pokémon have had a maximum of 680. However, it does have lower stats in some areas than some other Pokémon, such as having lower {{stat|Speed}} than a {{p|Crobat}}, and having lower {{stat|Attack}} than a {{p|Pinsir}}, and there are several Pokémon that grow at slower rates, such as {{p|Shroomish}}, {{p|Makuhita}}, {{p|Illumise}}, {{p|Gulpin}}, {{p|Wailmer}}, {{p|Seviper}}, {{p|Corphish}}, and {{p|Drifloon}}.
* The code for Diamond and Pearl has sprites for Arceus using its Multitype ability with all 18 types, including {{type2|???}}. It is disputed whether the ???-type Arceus is obtainable, as there is no [[plate]] in the code that can be used for this. It is possible this sprite was programmed in to prevent game crashes caused by tampering with Arceus's type.
* Though Arceus has not been officially revealed, it is possible to use its signature move, {{m|Judgment}}, through {{m|Metronome}}.
* Arceus's signature move, Judgment, is the only move that Arceus is guaranteed [[Same-type attack bonus|STAB]] for, as it is always the same type as Arceus itself. However, on the battle screen, Judgment is always displayed as {{type2|Normal}}.
* Even though it is said that Arceus created the world with its thousand arms, it cannot learn any attacks that use arms or punches besides Seismic Toss. It is also unable to learn every TM and HM, unlike Mew.
* Holding the Sky Plate, Arceus is the only Pokémon able to become a pure {{type2|Flying}} outside of battle (other Pokémon can be in battle through the use of {{m|Conversion}}, {{m|Conversion 2}}, and {{a|Color Change}}).
* With the appropriate [[plate]], Arceus is the only legendary {{t|Poison}}-, {{t|Bug}}-, or {{type2|Fighting}} Pokémon.
* Arceus has its own unique battle music when it is encountered. It shares this trait with {{p|Deoxys}}, as well as {{p|Giratina}} (in {{v2|Platinum}} only).

===Origin===
Arceus may be a reference to the Chinese mythical creature, the {{wp|Qilin}}. Its myth is nearly identical to that of the {{wp|Pangu}}, the Chinese creation deity.

Arceus may also be inspired by (or a representation of) {{wp|Avalokiteśvara}} who, in {{wp|Buddhism}}, is either pictured with eleven heads and one thousand arms (the latter of which is mentioned in Arceus's flavor text) or in a white four-armed manifestation (which could look similar to Arceus's Normal form).

Some inspiration may have come from a {{wp|horse}}, because of its Platinum sprite and attack movements in Pokémon Battle Revolution.

====Name origin====
Arceus's name may come from the words ''arch'' (highest) and ''deus'', which is Latin and Greek for ''god''. It may also have a root in the Latin word ''arcanus'', which means ''secret; sacred mystery''.
Arceus's name may also come from the word ''archaic'' (ancient), which comes from the Greek ''arkhaios''. It could have also come from the Latin word ''archetypus'' (original). Alternatively, Arceus's name can be seen as a portmanteau of ''Zeus'', the most powerful of Greek gods and ''arch'' (highest).

==In other languages==
*[[List of German Pokémon names|German]]: Arceus
*[[List of French Pokémon names|French]]: Arceus
*[[List of Korean Pokémon names|Korean]]: 아르세우스 ''Arceus''

==External links==
* Screenshots of Arceus in Pokémon Battle Revolution: [http://www.pokebeach.com/news/0507/arceus.jpg 1] and [http://www.pokebeach.com/news/0507/arceus2.jpg 2].
==Notes==
{{event Pokémon}}
{{Legendary Pokémon}}

{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Shaymin | next=Bulbasaur }}
{{Project Pokédex notice}}
[[Category:Pokémon that are not part of an evolutionary line]]
[[Category:Legendary Pokémon]]
[[Category:Sinnoh Legendary Pokémon]]
[[Category:Genderless Pokémon]]
[[Category:Pokémon with different forms]]
[[Category:Promotion-only Pokémon]]
[[Category:Trio Masters]]

[[de:Arceus]]
[[fr:Arceus]]
[[ja:アルセウス]]
[[pt:Arceus (pokémon)]]

User:Origamiguy/Notices

2008-11-08T16:07:05Z

Origamiguy:

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User talk:Origamiguy/Archive1

2008-11-08T16:00:25Z

Origamiguy:

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== Missions ==

I solved the Decodémon puzzle. [[User:Bobtherandomguy|Bobtherandomguy]] 19:31, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

:Yay! the treasure of krakoshi is saved! '''[[:User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Talk]]-[[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|Contribs]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|Mudkipz]]''' 19:34, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
::Have this as a gift: <nowiki>{{User:Origamiguy/Prizes/User Decodemon}}</nowiki> '''[[:User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Talk]]-[[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|Contribs]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|Mudkipz]]''' 15:37, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

== Contributions ==

{{cat|Link templates}}. Use them. They rock. {{ani|281}}[[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Sandbox|☆]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Favorites|♥]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]][http://freewebs.com/thepixelcafe δ]{{MS|281s}} 18:27, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
:I agree. Use them. Follow {{bp|shortlinks}}. '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:15, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Please, don't put spam like ''WTF'' on pages, even if you do put them inside <code><nowiki></nowiki></code>. That's still considered vandalism. Don't do it again. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 23:15, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
:yes okay but srsly, why does a male character have a female voice actor? '''[[:User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Talk]]-[[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|Contribs]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|Mudkipz]]'''
::Ask PUSA. Not us. {{ani|493}}'''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|Optimus35, to be exact...>.>;;;</nowiki>">Optimatum]]</sc>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]{{{1|12:58 11 Mar 2008}}}'''
:::That's Pokémon USA right? '''[[:User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Talk]]-[[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|Contribs]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|Mudkipz]]''' 15:24, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
::::Who else. {{ani|493}}'''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|Optimus35, to be exact...>.>;;;</nowiki>">Optimatum]]</sc>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]{{{1|13:26 12 Mar 2008}}}'''

== ContentsBox ==

tell me, how do i stop there being a contents box on my user page? '''[[:User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Talk]]-[[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|Contribs]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|Mudkipz]]'''

:You could try inserting a <nowiki>__NOTOC__</nowiki> code on your page. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 23:13, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
::danke schön (thankyou). i will use it as soon as my userpage is returned and we can edit them '''[[:User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Talk]]-[[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|Contribs]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|Mudkipz]]''' 15:01, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
:::and still waiting....'''[[:User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Talk]]-[[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|Contribs]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|Mudkipz]]''' 15:24, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

== userpages ==

when can we have our userpages back????? '''[[:User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Talk]]-[[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|Contribs]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|Mudkipz]]'''

:NO. '''[[User:Pachirisulover12|P]][[User talk:Pachirisulover12|L]][[User:Pachirisulover12/Trade Shop|1]][[User:Pachirisulover12/Discharge Gym|2]]''' 16:10, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

::Userspace should be back soon enough, as will userspace editing. Just be patient. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 16:31, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

== Sig ==

Origamiguy there's a new sig policy and you can olnly have text in your sig. Sorry, I had to change mine too(and so did everyone else) --Moisesmorales 22:37, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

See, I got it. Here's the policy:
*All signatures will be text-only and not exceed 80 characters on-screen when rendered.
*No line breaks.
*The font size of the signature will be no larger than the font size of normal text.
*No signature templates.
*A link to the user page, at minimum, and a link to the user talk page is recommended.
--Moisesmorales 22:45, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

::okay, but userpage edits aren't allowed yet (for me anyhow).'''[[:User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Talk]]-[[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|Contribs]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|Mudkipz]]'''
:::>_> It says 'The font size of the signature will be no larger than the font size of normal text'. I don't think you should use the <nowiki><big></nowiki> tags. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 17:44, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
::::i'm just making the word "guy" the same size as "origami". '''[[:User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Talk]]-[[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|Contribs]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|Mudkipz]]'''
:::::So long as it doesn't stretch the line vertically, there's no problem. <nowiki><big> tags in normal text are a no-no, <big> tags in tags also stretch it, but from what I can see, it's not causing harm in the tags, so it's fine.</nowiki> --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 21:11, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

==Mudkip?==
What is the point of your caged mudkipz?'''[[User:Pachirisulover12|P]][[User talk:Pachirisulover12|L]][[User:Pachirisulover12/Trade Shop|1]][[User:Pachirisulover12/Discharge Gym|2]]''' 15:19, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
:It's a collection, coz i liekz 'em! Donate one and maybe it will be the most mudkipz'd page on the web! '''[[:User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Talk]]-[[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|Contribs]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|Mudkipz]]''' 15:22, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
::I'm hatching your mudkip right now. Click one the "1" in my sig to get my friend code.'''[[User:Pachirisulover12|P]][[User talk:Pachirisulover12|L]][[User:Pachirisulover12/Trade Shop|1]][[User:Pachirisulover12/Discharge Gym|2]]''' 16:19, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
:::I think you don't understand. These here are e-'kipz. You do not have to send me a mudkip on diamond/pearl (i'm running out of PC space anyway), just add a mudkip to the page and sign your name. '''[[:User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Talk]]-[[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|Contribs]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|Mudkipz]]''' 17:00, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
::::i see you have added one. please, take the userpage tag: <nowiki>{{User_talk:Origamiguy/Prizes/User Donated Mudkip}}</nowiki>. '''[[:User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Talk]]-[[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|Contribs]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|Mudkipz]]''' 14:13, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

== Punctuation ==

Just so you know, (I had to look it up myself too,) the American Style of Grammar states that "'''''All''''' periods and commas belong '''inside''' the quotation marks." ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 22:53, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
:But you are from the UK and that is probably why you changed it! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 22:54, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
::yes. -- '''[[:User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Talk]]-[[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|Contribs]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|Mudkipz]]''' 09:25, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

== just a test ==
I can make edits with my [[:user_talk:origamiguy/Phone|phone!]] '''[[:User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Talk]]-[[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|Contribs]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|Mudkipz]]''' 17:00, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

== Darkrai breeder ==

HOW COULD THE ONE USER THAT STARTED THIS WHOLE ONTROVERSY AND HAS A TEMPLATE SUPPORTING BELIEF BE PART OF THE GNBA???--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 19:03, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
:No! quiet! Since he joined, that means that he confessed that it doesn't exist. so this is all over!•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 19:06, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

-But he's still tied to his word that it does! Remember u can't edit userpages, thus the template still exists on his page! So he's an '''''unofficial''''' non-believer! IT'S NOT OVER!--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 19:13, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

::You're still talking about that fake Pokemon which as I said is what he wants. The whole GNBA gives him attention too. JUST STOP TALKING ABOUT IT. [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 19:09, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
:::I'll stop, going to give my dog a bath...•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 19:11, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

==warning dude==
there is a storm coming for you--[[User:Darkrai breeder|DaRkRaIbReEdEr LiEkS rOtOm]] 23:04, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

:Don't worry. The storm's been blocked for six months. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 23:36, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
::May I be the first to say. OHHH ZING!!![[User:Darth Cookie Monster]] 01:04, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
:::<big><big><big><big>LOL</big></big></big></big> '''[[:User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Talk]]-[[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|Contribs]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|Mudkipz]]''' 14:48, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

== Blocks ==

Can we have a page which lists which users are currently blocked, and for how long?
I just wanna be the first to know when darkraibreeder is unblocked so we can see whether he took an anger management course. '''[[:User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Talk]]-[[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|Contribs]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|Mudkipz]]''' 14:48, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

:[[Special:Ipblocklist]] is the page you're looking for. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 17:07, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

== Welcome ==
hey.. put <nowiki>{{subst:welcome}}</nowiki> instead of just <nowiki>{{Welcome}}</nowiki> please. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 18:55, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
:whats the subst bit for? '''[[:User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Talk]]-[[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|Contribs]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|Mudkipz]]''' 16:01, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
::It substitutes the template for the full coding, so when the new user checks their talk page, they don't get all confused by the lack of actual words there. Also, it lets the welcome template be edited without having to update it on userpages (seeing as its on every user's talk page). --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 17:59, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
:::kthx, now i know, i'll use it.'''[[:User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Talk]]-[[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|Contribs]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|Mudkipz]]'''

== Japanese Pokémon Name Redirects ==

Only redirect a Pokémon's Japanese name to a species page if that Pokémon does not have a disambiguation page. If a Pokémon has a disambiguation page, the disambig is the correct target for the Japanese name, not the species page. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 14:09, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

If anything in the above comment confused you, here's a little routine you can try: Type in the English name you're seeking. If it's a redirect, create the Japanese name redirect to target the species page. If the English name is a disambig, create the Japanese name redirect to target the disambig.

If the Japanese name is already a disambig, link a new entry as follows:

:*The Japanese name of <nowiki>{{p|<English name>}}</nowiki>

And if the Japanese name links to something else, create a new disambig similar to the one for [[Thunder]]. Hopefully this clears things up. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 04:17, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

== Don't Do It! ==

Don't make numbers redirect to particular Pokemon! It's bad and unpractical because it depends on which Pokedex you use. For example, number 001 can belong to Bulbasaur, Chikorita, Treecko, Turtwig or Pichu, depending on Pokedex models. So, please DON'T DO IT. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 15:30, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

:If you were going to make pages for each 'Dex number, I would suggest disambiguation pages leading to each of the corresponding Pokémon... sort of like [[TM01]], etc... --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 21:10, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
::006 got deleted cause some1 did that - still sure? '''[[:User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Talk]]-[[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|Contribs]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|Mudkipz]]''' 09:50, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
:::Just checked the deletion log on that one... the deleted page wasn't a disambiguation page, it was just a plain redirect (like it is now). TTE deleted it because there were too many 6's out there (route 6, ndex 006, hdex 006, etc). I think if someone(s) would be willing to make disambiguation pages for each number, that would be pretty helpful... people might search for dex numbers all the time, but you can't be sure which dex they were aiming for. (normally national dex, but not always.) I think disambiguations would be really helpful. Maybe I can manage something on 001 as a test/example. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 17:49, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
:::: Not just Pokédex numbers in the disambig, also [[EP001]], [[AG001]], [[DP001]]. [[User:Zurqoxn|Zurqoxn]] 18:06, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::Grah, that's a lot of links. Still even more reason for disambiguation pages. Porygon-Z just informed me to [[151]], which is also a theme song in the anime... I made a disambiguation of it, and something like that could do nicely for the rest of the numbers. Let me go expand it for the anime too; there's a few episode 151's, right? --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 18:51, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
Never fear - [[Template:Number Redirects|<nowiki>{{Number Redirects}}</nowiki>]] is here!
I'll do the redirects, i want to help the world of bulbapedia grow, and show that i can do good in this world. thats right - all 493 of them '''[[:User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Talk]]-[[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|Contribs]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|Mudkipz]]''' 16:31, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
:Looks good. And another benefit of the SUBST is if we need to change part of the formatting, we can sic Bulbabot on the whole thing. Don't forget that for the really high numbers, like, 400+, I don't think there ''are'' any other episodes or Pokédex numbers that high, so you can simply redirect the page. (and if any of the episodes catch up, we simply edit the redirect page to turn it into a disambig page.) --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 16:42, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

== girlfriend help ==

''(continued on [[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Current]])''
uhh guys.... theres this girl in my school who ive got a huge crush on, but i dont know how to ask her out. any ideas? --'''[[:User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Talk]]-[[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|Contribs]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|Mudkipz]]''' 12:08, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
::Just be straight-forward! (: Thats what i did when i asked out my girlfriend...Then again, we were really good friends before we started going out so yeah...Just don't be nervous, and ask her when you think the time is right? Or just be really nice too her, become good friends with her (if your not already) and show her your a nice person (: [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 19:16, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
:::As a girl myself, I suggest {{tt|flirting|like say you like something she's wearing (shirt, shoes etc.)}} and kindness. '''[[User:Pachirisulover12|PL]][[User talk:Pachirisulover12|12]]''' 21:13, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
::::\You have 2 choices. Be direct about it, or show her you are a nice person, aka hold the door, help her in school work, TALK TO HER, and such[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|C is for Cookie]] 21:23, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::Come to her SLOWLY. Get close to her, become her friend. THEN MAKE YOUR MOVE•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 21:34, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::Thanks for the advice guys, i'm working on building up friendship at the moment '''[[:User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Talk]]-[[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|Contribs]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|Mudkipz]]''' 11:58, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
:Just make sure you've still got your virginity after you're over with her. Crushes can last from one day to three years. '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''13:32 4 Jun 2008'''''
::I'm 15 and my birthday is in march so i dont think thats gonna be a problem'''[[:User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Talk]]-[[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|Contribs]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|Mudkipz]]''' 11:49, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
:::And I know about crushes lasting a while - i had a crush on someone else for 2 years. I got rejected so i moved on.'''[[:User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Talk]]-[[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|Contribs]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|Mudkipz]]''' 15:15, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
::::And i'm happy because i saw her (the current crush) whilst i had a random box of chocolates in my pocket. I offered her a few, and she was more than pleased to take them. BINGO! :) '''[[:User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Talk]]-[[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|Contribs]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|Mudkipz]]''' 15:15, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

User talk:Origamiguy/Archive2

2008-11-08T15:58:05Z

Origamiguy: User talk:Origamiguy/Acrhive2 moved to User talk:Origamiguy/Archive2: misspelling

User talk:Origamiguy

2008-11-08T15:57:29Z

Origamiguy:

User talk:Origamiguy/Archive2

2008-11-08T15:57:01Z

Origamiguy: talkpage archive

User talk:Origamiguy

2008-10-27T17:46:05Z

Origamiguy: /* i herd u govern school with rubik's cube */

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== Signature ==
:My sig {{m|Substitute}}s in my [[User_talk:Origamiguy/NameTemp]] page. is this allowed? '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|808080|Origami}}{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|FF8000|Guy}}-{{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|808080|T}}-{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|FF8000|C}}-{{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|0080FF|M}}''' 10:03, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
::When you say it substitutes, do you mean as in SUBST: templating? In that case, it's not allowed, mainly for two reasons; one, it's still technically using a template for your signature (albeit a less harmful one), and two, there's an unofficial coding limit for signatures, and if it doesn't fit in your [[Special:Preferences|Preferences]], then chances are, it's too much coding for one signature.
::On the note of large coding though, why do you have coding for background color in your signature? I mean, since you're making the background white with that coding, you might as well leave it out in the first place and save yourself some space... --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 12:57, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
:::ive shrunk it a bit, but it still wont fit in prefs. i'm working on it, leave User_talk:Origamiguy/NameTemp until ive got it in my prefs - i'll tell you. '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|808080|Origami}}{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|FF8000|Guy}}-{{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|808080|T}}-{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|FF8000|C}}-{{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|0080FF|M}}''' 14:53, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
::::Okie dokie, I'll let it be for now. And if nobody else noticed it yet, then you probably don't have to worry about them deleting it. :D --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 16:46, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
::::: Ive done it! finally fitted it into my prefs. but i will have to sign with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> instead of <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. so feel free to delete the page.  '''[[:User:Origamiguy|Lord]] of [[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Ori]][[Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|gami]]''' 10:02, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::Shining beat me to it. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 16:27, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
:i brought it back - fed up of putting small tags every time i sign. if the prefs box didnt auto-subst any template {{}} tags, it would fit '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|ff8000|gami}}''' 17:46, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
== trio ==

It says on their page or talk page they are confirmed. Look at the picture of Giratina with Palkia and Dialga. Also we know Arceus created them so he's their trio master. [[User:Sailor Earth|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Sailor Earth| of]][[User talk:Sailor Earth| Earth]] 11:19, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
:It was <big>NEVER</big> said that arceus created giratina. it's probable that they are a trio, but leave it until we have definitive proof. '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|808080|Origami}}{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|FF8000|Guy}}-{{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|808080|T}}-{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|FF8000|C}}-{{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|0080FF|M}}''' 11:21, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

::We do have definate proof, it says so on the trios page or talk page. They are a trio, and we know that Arceus created them. [[User:Sailor Earth|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Sailor Earth| of]][[User talk:Sailor Earth| Earth]] 11:23, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

:::[[Talk:Dragon_trio|Look Here]]

::::ahem.
::::''(Copied from [[Dragon trio]])''
::::Dragon trio is a term used by many Pokémon fans to refer to three legendary Pokémon that '''''may or may not be a legendary trio of the Sinnoh region'''''. It is composed of three Pokémon: Dialga, Palkia and Giratina. 
::::'''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|808080|Origami}}{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|FF8000|Guy}}-{{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|808080|T}}-{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|FF8000|C}}-{{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|0080FF|M}}''' 11:28, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

:::::Now you [[Talk:Dragon_trio|Look Here]]!!!
::::::Which bit? use <nowiki>[[Talk:Dragon_trio#(section name)|Look Here]]</nowiki> '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|808080|Origami}}{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|FF8000|Guy}}-{{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|808080|T}}-{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|FF8000|C}}-{{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|0080FF|M}}''' 11:38, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh, thanx for telling me how to link to a particular section. [[User:Sailor Earth|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Sailor Earth| of]][[User talk:Sailor Earth| Earth]] 12:04, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

== Category titles ==

Make sure not to use title case on them. Unlike regular pages and templates and such... they're impossible to move and redirect. So make sure that things aren't in title case unless they're titles. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 18:26, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
:Okay, sorry, i didn't know the rules about that. i know now so i will stick to it in future. '''[[:User:Origamiguy|Lord]] of [[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Ori]][[Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|gami]]''' 15:47, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

== Girlfriend Help ==
''(I know i'm not meant to use my talkpage for myspace-ish junk, just let me get an answer and then i'll remove this)''.

more help needed i'm afraid, here's the thing:
we're both performing in our school's summer concert tonight, and i was going to ask her out at the end. is this a good idea? '''[[:User:Origamiguy|Lord]] of [[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Ori]][[Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|gami]]''' 15:47, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
:Yep[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|Emperor's Cookies]] 15:48, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
::alright, {{tt|i'll do it|if i dont chicken out again...}} '''[[:User:Origamiguy|Lord]] of [[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Ori]][[Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|gami]]''' 15:52, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
:::BTW, if you want a more friendly place to discuss this, go here:http://ipgl.proboards84.com/index.cgi?,make an account, go to non bulbapedia discussion or the dump, and make a new thred there. Ok?[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|Emperor's Cookies]] 17:32, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

::::[http://ipgl.proboards84.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=bulbapedia&thread=82 done]. '''[[:User:Origamiguy|Lord]] of [[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Ori]][[Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|gami]]''' 12:13, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

== external links ==

how do you hide the little image next to them? '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|ff8000|gami}}''' 18:52, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

and can I link to other bulbawiki sites (news/archives) without it being an external link? '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|ff8000|gami}}''' 18:56, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

== Personal images ==
These are your personal images,
*[[a:Image:80pxOG2.png]]
*[[a:Image:ShoopDaWhoop.png]]
:I wish to keep the following:
:*[[a:Image:80pxOG2.png]]
:*[[a:Image:ShoopDaWhoop.png]]
:Thankyou '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|ff8000|gami}}''' 09:24, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
::Thank you very much! I am so glad you responded so I didn't have to delete them all like I will have to for some come Sunday. Remember, there are always alternate image hosting sites if you need more for yourself. The above comment shall now be deleted! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 12:40, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

== Missions ==

They will have to be purged. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 14:19, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
:removed links to them, feel free to delete all under User:Origamiguy/Mission
:and another thing, what happened to [[User:Origamiguy/Notices]]? i had it so that i could have notices on both my talk page and user page without making multiple edits. '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|ff8000|gami}}''' 10:57, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

== New tag ==

[[Template:User Admin Candidate]]

Use it. Now. :D --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 00:29, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
==glatra==
What is glatra?I don`t really believe in it from what I`ve read.So can you tell me more about it?Put it on my talk page.--[[User:Xam430|Xam430]] 18:12, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

P.S. Do you really do origami?--[[User:Xam430|Xam430]] 18:36, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

its a fake glitch 'mon made up by Darkrai Breeder.
and yes, i do origami, hence the name. Check [http://origami-guy.deviantart.com/gallery] for a few pics. '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|ff8000|gami}}''' 10:12, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

wow,you are pretty good at origami.I have done some myself but not as good,but about glatra is there or was there ever an article about it? --[[User:Xam430|Xam430]] 22:26, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
oh and please put your replies on my talk page--[[User:Xam430|Xam430]] 22:27, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

who is this guy? he seems like he`s wasting his time trying to prove some fake pokemon he photoshopped is real,he`s fighting a losing battle.any one who STRONGLY wants him to stop talking about glatra put your signature on my talk page in the section darkrai breeder
--[[User:Xam430|Xam430]] 22:49, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

please note Im not trying to offend him----[[User:Xam430|Xam430]] 22:49, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

==Please==
Slow down on editing the <code>User:</code> namespace. There are only three userspace edits allowed per day, and you have gone over the limit. Editing your userpage too much will lead to it being locked again. Instead of making multiple small edits, why not instead use the preview button (Alt + Shift + P) to check your edits before saving the page? Thank you. ----'''[[User:Diby|Di]]'''[[User talk:Diby|b]][[Special:Contributions/Diby|y]] 12:02, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
:sorry. won't happen again. '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|f80|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|f80|Ori}}{{Colored link|User:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|08f|gami}}''' 12:04, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

== i herd u govern school with rubik's cube ==

your best lucky and all-steps time? [[User:Totallynotnova|Totallynotnova]] 02:42, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
:lucky - 46.2s, all-steps - 51s. not exactly world record times, but for a guy doing GCSEs, it ain't bad... '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|f80|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|f80|Ori}}{{Colored link|User:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|08f|gami}}''' 17:46, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

User talk:Groudon Kyogre Raquaza

2008-10-21T14:19:55Z

Origamiguy: New page: {{Subst:welcome}}

==Welcome==
Welcome to [[Bulbapedia]], Groudon Kyogre Raquaza!

As a new user, you may wish to learn a few things that will be useful in your editing:
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Thank you, and have a good time editing here! --'''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|f80|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|f80|Ori}}{{Colored link|User:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|08f|gami}}''' 14:19, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions

2008-10-16T15:27:32Z

Origamiguy: /* Trivia */

''This article is about the [[Generation IV]] [[Pokémon games|games]]. For other uses, see [[Diamond and Pearl]].''
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{{Infobox_game |
name = Pokémon Diamond and Pearl |
boxart = [[Image:DiamondUS.jpg|200px]][[Image:PearlUS.jpg|200px]]|
caption = Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions' boxart, featuring {{p|Dialga}} and {{p|Palkia}}. |
category = RPG |
players = 1-4 players simultaneous |
platform = [[Nintendo DS]] |
Wi-Fi compatible = Yes |
release_date_ja = September 28, 2006 |
release_date_au = June 21, 2007 |
release_date_eu = July 27, 2007<ref>http://www.nintendo-europe.com/NOE/en/GB/news/article.do?elementId=DK-gQHfSlatZXa1pJsBmTKyS35vdrsBS</ref>|
release_date_na = April 22, 2007 |
release_date_kr = February 14, 2008 |
publisher = [[Nintendo]]/[[The Pokémon Company]] |
developer = [[Game Freak]] |
esrb = Everyone |
staff = yes |
stafflink = Staff of Pokémon Diamond and Pearl |
website_en = [http://pokemon-games.com/pokemondandp/ US Pokémon DP Site] |
website_ja = [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/game/ds/dp/index.html ポケットモンスターダイヤモンド・パール] |
}}
{{StrategyWiki}}
'''Pokémon Diamond and Pearl''' are the first true Pokémon RPG games for the [[Nintendo DS]]. The games were released in Japan on September 28, 2006 and in North America on April 22, 2007. They take place in the region of [[Sinnoh]] and the player's starting area is [[Twinleaf Town]].
==Plot==
At the start, the player sees a newscast about a sighting of a [[Alternate coloration|red]] {{p|Gyarados}}. They then head to their [[Pearl (game)|rival's]] house and go to [[Lake Verity]] with him to see if there are any similar Pokémon living in it. Once there, two {{p|Starly}} attack. Nearby is a briefcase containing [[Starter Pokémon|three Pokémon]] that the two choose from to fight off the {{type2|Flying}}. As is always the case, the rival takes the Pokémon that weakens the player's choice. The professor's assistant, who is the alternate-[[gender]] player character from the player, takes the remaining starter. After the Starly is defeated, the two return to Twinleaf Town with [[Professor Rowan]]'s briefcase. Back in Twinleaf Town the player's mother gives him or her running shoes and then the player leaves for Sandgem Town to return the briefcase. After meeting Professor Rowan, he gives the player the Pokémon they chose to keep and a Pokédex.

During the course of the game, there are many conflicts with the evil [[Team Galactic]] and their leader, [[Cyrus]]. When the power of {{p|Dialga}} or {{p|Palkia}} (depending on the version), summoned by Cyrus, begins to overwhelm Sinnoh, {{p|Uxie}}, {{p|Mesprit}} and {{p|Azelf}} appear and negate the power flow, and the player must catch or defeat the Legendary.

==Connectivity==

[[{{ns:6}}:Pokémon Pearl.jpg|right|thumb|Pokémon Pearl DS cartridge]]

*Diamond and Pearl are compatible with the [[Generation III|Game Boy Advance Pokémon RPGs]] after seeing the first 150 Pokémon in the Sinnoh Dex. The GBA cartridge is inserted into the GBA slot of the Nintendo DS, while Diamond or Pearl is in its DS card slot to upload Pokémon.
*Pokémon uploads are restricted to six per 24-hour period per GBA cartridge, and the player will have to re-capture such transferred Pokémon in [[Pal Park]] located at the end of [[Route 221]] before transferring from another GBA game. Pokémon knowing any of the [[Generation III]] [[HM]] [[move]]s ({{m|Cut}}, {{m|Fly}}, {{m|Surf}}, {{m|Strength}}, {{m|Flash}}, {{m|Rock Smash}}, {{m|Waterfall}}, and {{m|Dive}}) cannot be transferred, therefore, it is necessary to go to the [[Move Deleter]] in [[Fuchsia City]] or [[Lilycove City]] to remove them before transfer.
*The player cannot transfer any of the Pokémon back to the GBA cartridge once they are transferred to their Diamond/Pearl copy; the transfer is permanent.
*While a GBA game is in the DS, [[dual-slot mode]] activates and it becomes possible to capture Pokémon in the wild in Sinnoh that do not natively appear, though this may only happen after the [[National Dex]] is obtained.
*The DS's native support for Wi-Fi is employed, allowing players to trade, battle and communicate using "voice chat" online.
*Diamond and Pearl feature Wi-Fi connectivity to [[Pokémon Battle Revolution]], much as their predecessors connected to the [[Nintendo 64]] and [[GameCube]].
*Diamond and Pearl feature a global trading system, which allows trainers to search for any Pokémon they want, or put up one of their own Pokémon for trade for any Pokémon. Players of other games can search for the Pokémon that others have put onto the [[Global Trade Station]].
*Diamond and Pearl feature connectivity to [[Pokémon Ranger]]. By completing a special mission in Ranger, an [[Pokémon egg|Egg]] can be sent from Ranger to Diamond or Pearl, where it can be hatched into the legendary Pokémon, {{p|Manaphy}}.
*Diamond and Pearl also feature connectivity to [[Pokémon Ranger: Shadows of Almia]]. By completing three special missions in the game, a {{p|Manaphy}} [[Pokémon egg|Egg]], a {{p|Riolu}} with {{m|Aura Sphere}} and a {{p|Darkrai}} with {{m|Dark Void}} can be sent from the game to Diamond or Pearl.
*Diamond and Pearl also feature connection to the [[Wii|WiiWare]] title [[My Pokémon Ranch]], in which Pokémon can be raised and stored in a farm-like environment.

==Features==
The day-night system first appearing in [[Pokémon Gold and Silver]] returns, with the same three [[time]] periods, but better transitioning between them. A new multifunction device called the [[Pokétch]], short for Pokémon Watch, is also introduced. The [[Pokémon professor|regional Professor]]'s name is [[Professor Rowan]], after [[wp:Rowan|a tree]] like the others, and he allows the player and his or her rival to keep the [[starter Pokémon]] they used against attacking wild Pokémon at the beginning of the game.

A new battle system is used for Pokémon Diamond and Pearl. In this new battle system, attacks are declared either physical or special by how the attack itself operates, i.e. whether the attack touches the enemy or not, instead of the attack type, as was previously the case. For example, {{m|ThunderPunch}} is now [[Stat#Attack|physical]] and {{m|Hyper Beam}} turns into [[Stat#Special Attack|special]]. This has been highly controversial with fans of the series, as it is considered to be "wasting" some strong Pokémon from previous generations, such as {{p|Blaziken}} and {{p|Sceptile}}, while other fans of the series hail this change as "more realistic".

Though it was reported that the games would feature {{t|Dark}}/{{t|Psychic}}/{{t|Fighting}} starters, this has been debunked. The games retain the starters in the type trio of previous generations, {{t|Grass}}/{{t|Fire}}/{{t|Water}}, this time being {{p|Turtwig}}, {{p|Chimchar}}, and {{p|Piplup}}, respectively.

===Contests===
{{main|Pokémon Super Contest}}
In Pokémon Diamond and Pearl, a significant amount of changes have been made to the Pokémon contests, now known as Super Contests.

Instead of making [[Pokéblock]]s with berries, berry-flavored muffins called [[Poffin]] are made. This is done in [[Hearthome City]], though not within the contest hall, instead it is done at the Poffin House, which is near the Pokémon Center in Hearthome. Using the DS's touchscreen, players must stir the Poffin as directed by arrows that appear.

The first round of the contests themselves is similar to the first round in Ruby, Sapphire and Emerald, but instead of relying solely on contest stats, Pokémon must be dressed up using [[accessories]] with the stylus within a time limit. Each particular contest will require different accessories, and higher ranks may require more to be put on the Pokémon.

The second round is a dancing round, using buttons on the touch screen to either perform a dance that the others will find hard to mimic (if the player's Pokémon is the main dancer) or to copy the lead Pokémon's dance moves. Each Pokémon gets a turn at being the leader, and the leader must try to dance in time with the music, and so, obviously, so do the background dancers. The ABXY buttons will also work.

The third round is very similar to the appeals round in Generation III, and the main difference is that there are three judges. A Pokémon will get more points if it is the only Pokémon to perform for a particular judge, less if another one appeals for that judge and so on. The crowd system is still in place, but this time, each judge has a different meter, making it both potentially risky and potentially rewarding to appeal to a judge that all of the other Pokémon are appealing to. In addition, Pokémon will recieve bonus points for appeals regardless of the impression on the judge, and points are not added simply for raising a judge's "voltage."

===New gyms===
As is always the case, there are eight new [[Pokémon Gym]]s in Sinnoh, each with their own type affiliation. The new [[Gym Leader]]s are [[Roark]] ({{t|Rock}}), [[Gardenia]] ({{t|Grass}}), [[Maylene]] ({{t|Fighting}}), [[Crasher Wake]] ({{t|Water}}), [[Fantina]] ({{t|Ghost}}), [[Byron]] ({{t|Steel}}), [[Candice]] ({{t|Ice}}) and [[Volkner]] ({{t|Electric}}).

===Elite Four===
The new [[Elite Four]] is located at the [[Pokémon League (Sinnoh)|Pokémon League]]. The Elite trainers are [[Aaron (Elite Four)|Aaron]] ({{t|Bug}}), [[Bertha]] ({{t|Ground}}), [[Flint (Elite Four)|Flint]] ({{t|Fire}}) and [[Lucian]] ({{t|Psychic}}); the [[Champion]] is [[Cynthia]], who has Pokémon of mixed types.

===New Pokémon===
:: ''See [[List of Pokémon by Sinnoh Dex number]] and [[List of Pokémon by National Dex number]]''
As the first [[Generation IV]] games, Diamond and Pearl were the first sightings of 107 new Pokémon, bringing the total amount to 493.

The new Pokémon began being unveiled in 2004, with the release of ''[[Destiny Deoxys]]'' in Japan, where {{p|Munchlax}} was revealed.

[[:Category:Generation IV Pokémon|Fourth-generation Pokémon]] continued being unveiled in 2005, with the Japanese release of ''[[Lucario and the Mystery of Mew]]''. The movie featured {{p|Lucario}}, {{p|Bonsly}}, {{p|Mime Jr.}} and {{p|Weavile}}.

2006 was crunch time for the fourth generation. The ninth movie, ''[[Pokémon Ranger and the Temple of the Sea]]'', featured {{p|Manaphy}}, {{p|Mantyke}}, {{p|Buizel}} and {{p|Chatot}}, and {{p|Dialga}} and {{p|Palkia}} were soon confirmed to be on the two games' [[:Category:Version mascots|boxart]]. On September 27, all 107 of the new Pokémon's menu icons were revealed on [[Filb.de]].

During the week that followed the games' Japanese release, [[Serebii.net]] featured a "Discovery Trench" that revealed the names and stats of many of the previously-unknown Pokémon to the general public.

====[[Version-exclusive Pokémon|Version exclusives]]====
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! Exclusives
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! bgcolor="#{{Diamond color}}" | '''Diamond'''
| {{p|Seel}}, {{p|Dewgong}}, {{p|Scyther}}, {{p|Murkrow}}, {{p|Scizor}}, {{p|Larvitar}}, {{p|Pupitar}}, {{p|Tyranitar}}, {{p|Poochyena}}, {{p|Mightyena}}, {{p|Aron}}, {{p|Lairon}}, {{p|Aggron}}, {{p|Kecleon}}, {{p|Cranidos}}, {{p|Rampardos}}, {{p|Honchkrow}}, {{p|Stunky}}, {{p|Skuntank}}, {{p|Dialga}}
|-
! bgcolor="#{{Pearl color}}" | '''Pearl'''
| {{p|Slowpoke}}, {{p|Slowbro}}, {{p|Pinsir}}, {{p|Slowking}}, {{p|Misdreavus}}, {{p|Houndour}}, {{p|Houndoom}}, {{p|Stantler}}, {{p|Spheal}}, {{p|Sealeo}}, {{p|Walrein}}, {{p|Bagon}}, {{p|Shelgon}}, {{p|Salamence}}, {{p|Shieldon}}, {{p|Bastiodon}}, {{p|Mismagius}}, {{p|Glameow}}, {{p|Purugly}}, {{p|Palkia}}
|}

===Nintendo Event exclusives===
The following Pokémon are available only after obtaining certain items at a Nintendo sponsored event. As of this time, the only events to have been announced are for Darkrai: one in Japan, which coincided with the theatrical release of ''[[The Rise of Darkrai|Dialga vs. Palkia vs. Darkrai]]'' on July 14, 2007; and another in America, in Toys "R" Us stores on May 31 and June 1, 2008.

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| {{p|Manaphy}}, {{p|Darkrai}}, {{p|Shaymin}}, {{p|Arceus}}
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==Reception==
According to Famitsu, Pokémon Diamond and Pearl sold 1,586,360 units in the four days after its release. On December 27, 2006, it was announced that the two games combined became the first Nintendo DS games to hit five million units shipped.<ref>http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/2006/12/27/103,1167202517,65081,0,0.html</ref> Additionally, in the fortnight ending December 31, 2006, the number of units sold passed four million, according to Famitsu, the first Nintendo DS game to do so.<ref>http://www.famitsu.com/game/rank/top30/2007/01/11/120,1168503732,65421,0,0.html</ref>

Sales of Pokémon Diamond and Pearl in Japan exceeded the five million mark in the 29th week of sales (April 9 - 15, 2007).<ref>Bulbanews: [[n:Diamond, Pearl sales cross 5 million mark in Japan|Diamond, Pearl sales cross 5 million mark in Japan]]</ref> In the United States, over 533,000 pre-orders were taken before release<ref>http://press.nintendo.com/articles.jsp?id=11981</ref>, and one million copies were sold within five days. By the end of April 2007, the US release of Pokémon Diamond had sold approximately 1.045 million copies, and Pokémon Pearl had sold approximately 712 thousand copies.<ref>Bulbanews: [[n:NPD Group sales data for April 2007 revealed|NPD Group sales data for April 2007 revealed]]</ref>

===Japanese sales===
: ''Source: [http://www.enterbrain.co.jp/ Enterbrain] via [http://www.famitsu.com/game/rank/top30/ ファミ通　ゲームソフト販売本数ランキング TOP30]
{| {{bluetable2|r}}
|-
!
! Week ending
! Units sold
! Total units sold
|-
! 1
| October 1, 2006
| 1,575,266
| 1,575,266
|-
! 2
| October 8, 2006
| 466,273
| 2,041,539
|-
! 3
| October 15, 2006
| 275,494
| 2,317,033
|-
! 4
| October 22, 2006
| 231,979
| 2,549,012
|-
! 5
| October 29, 2006
| 203,214
| 2,752,226
|-
! 6
| November 5, 2006
| 183,048
| 2,935,294
|-
! 7
| November 12, 2006
| 124,738
| 3,060,032
|-
! 8
| November 19, 2006
| 101,133
| 3,161,145
|-
! 9
| November 26, 2006
| 110,946
| 3,272,091
|-
! 10
| December 3, 2006
| 100,215
| 3,372,306
|-
! 11
| December 10, 2006
| 151,036
| 3,523,342
|-
! 12
| December 17, 2006
| 225,228
| 3,748,570
|-
! 13
| colspan="3" class="c bg2" | N/A
|-
! 14
| December 31, 2006
| 554,245
| 4,302,815
|-
! 15
| January 7, 2007
| 214,274
| 4,517,089
|-
! 16
| January 14, 2007
| 58,725
| 4,575,814
|-
! 17
| January 21, 2007
| 49,050
| 4,624,864
|-
! 18
| January 28, 2007
| 48,783
| 4,673,647
|-
! 19
| February 4, 2007
| 45,467
| 4,719,114
|-
! 20
| February 11, 2007
| 43,947
| 4,763,061
|-
! 21
| February 18, 2007
| 39,553
| 4,802,614
|-
! 22
| February 25, 2007
| 33,444
| 4,836,058
|-
! 23
| March 4, 2007
| 33,470
| 4,869,528
|-
! 24
| March 11, 2007
| 28,774
| 4,898,302
|-
! 25
| March 18, 2007
| 24,119
| 4,922,421
|-
! 26
| March 25, 2007
| 27,440
| 4,949,861
|-
! 27
| April 1, 2007
| 24,641
| 4,974,502
|-
! 28
| April 8, 2007
| 22,012
| 4,996,514
|-
! 29
| April 15, 2007
| 18,874
| 5,015,388
|-
! 30
| April 22, 2007
| 20,342
| 5,035,730
|-
! 31
| colspan="3" class="c bg2" | N/A
|-
! 32
| May 6, 2007
| 61,040
| 5,096,770
|}

==Trivia==
*Pokémon Diamond and Pearl contain many references to {{wp|Internet meme}}s and {{wp|chatspeak}}. One of the main translators, [[Douglas Dinsdale]], is a member of the {{wp|Something Awful|Something Awful Forums}}, hence all the net lingo. There are also multiple references to the Something Awful website and community scattered throughout the game, such as one Pokémon trainer announcing "[[wp:My Tank is Fight|My Pokémon is Fight!]]". "Noob" is also used several times, "Owned" is said by a [[Team Galactic|Galactic]] grunt and [[Buck]], and ROFL is available as a speech option. Also, in the {{player}}'s first encounter with Team Galactic, they tell [[Professor Rowan]] to "hand over his research so that they would refrain from causing [[wp:Giant Enemy Crab|massive damage]] to his assistant". Perhaps coincidentally, [[Twinleaf Town]] shares its Japanese name with that of the original *chan imageboard, [[wp:Futaba Channel|2chan]].
*Diamond and Pearl are also the first main series Pokémon games not to have their storage media colored, and the first games in which the lab of the region's [[Pokémon professor]] is not in the player's hometown. This is also true of [[Pokémon Platinum Version|Pokémon Platinum]].
*The Sinnoh region's starters are the first [[starter Pokémon]] which all gain a second type through evolution. Previously, two of Hoenn's starters had two types in their final forms, as did two of Kanto's, though one of Kanto's three had two types to begin with.
*Diamond and Pearl are the first games where it is safe to trade between English and Japanese versions. An example is this is shown by the fact that Japanese Pokémon from the GTS do not harm foreign language versions, and in fact, several actually add their own foreign Pokédex entry when traded.
*The leaders and Elite Four of Sinnoh don't always use Pokémon of their specialized type, mainly focusing on the use of moves that are of that type.
* Diamond and Pearl are the second Pokémon games that require their saved data to be deleted before saving a new game, with the first being [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon]].
* In-game data indicate that the games will be able to interact with games based in the [[Johto]] region, fueling speculation of [[Pokémon Gold and Silver remakes|remakes of the Generation II games]].
*Korean titles for the games are '''포켓몬스터DP 디아루가''' (''Pocket Monsters DP {{tt|Diaruga|Dialga}}'') for Diamond and '''포켓몬스터DP 펄기아''' (''Pocket Monsters DP {{tt|Peolgia|Palkia}}'') for Pearl.
*Korean characters do not appear in non-Korean games and vice-versa. They appear as empty spaces.
* Diamond and Pearl have the most [[Legendary Pokémon]] obtainable in-game, 9, and most overall, 14, of any Pokémon games.
*Diamond and Pearl are also the first two games in which [[baby Pokémon]] previously available only through {{pkmn|breeding}} can be found in the wild.

==See also==
* Bulbanews: [[n:First Diamond, Pearl information revealed|First Diamond, Pearl information revealed]]

==External links==
<references />

 
{{Main series}}
[[Category:Games]]
[[Category:Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|*]]
[[Category:DS games]]

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User talk:Origamiguy

2008-10-16T15:05:23Z

Origamiguy: /* Please */

User:Origamiguy/NameTemp

2008-10-16T09:51:57Z

Origamiguy:

'''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|f80|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|f80|Ori}}{{Colored link|User:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|08f|gami}}'''

User talk:Origamiguy

2008-10-15T12:04:37Z

Origamiguy: /* Please */

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== Signature ==
:My sig {{m|Substitute}}s in my [[User_talk:Origamiguy/NameTemp]] page. is this allowed? '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|808080|Origami}}{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|FF8000|Guy}}-{{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|808080|T}}-{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|FF8000|C}}-{{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|0080FF|M}}''' 10:03, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
::When you say it substitutes, do you mean as in SUBST: templating? In that case, it's not allowed, mainly for two reasons; one, it's still technically using a template for your signature (albeit a less harmful one), and two, there's an unofficial coding limit for signatures, and if it doesn't fit in your [[Special:Preferences|Preferences]], then chances are, it's too much coding for one signature.
::On the note of large coding though, why do you have coding for background color in your signature? I mean, since you're making the background white with that coding, you might as well leave it out in the first place and save yourself some space... --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 12:57, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
:::ive shrunk it a bit, but it still wont fit in prefs. i'm working on it, leave User_talk:Origamiguy/NameTemp until ive got it in my prefs - i'll tell you. '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|808080|Origami}}{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|FF8000|Guy}}-{{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|808080|T}}-{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|FF8000|C}}-{{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|0080FF|M}}''' 14:53, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
::::Okie dokie, I'll let it be for now. And if nobody else noticed it yet, then you probably don't have to worry about them deleting it. :D --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 16:46, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
::::: Ive done it! finally fitted it into my prefs. but i will have to sign with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> instead of <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. so feel free to delete the page.  '''[[:User:Origamiguy|Lord]] of [[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Ori]][[Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|gami]]''' 10:02, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::Shining beat me to it. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 16:27, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
:i brought it back - fed up of putting small tags every time i sign. if the prefs box didnt auto-subst any template {{}} tags, it would fit '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|ff8000|gami}}''' 17:46, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
== trio ==

It says on their page or talk page they are confirmed. Look at the picture of Giratina with Palkia and Dialga. Also we know Arceus created them so he's their trio master. [[User:Sailor Earth|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Sailor Earth| of]][[User talk:Sailor Earth| Earth]] 11:19, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
:It was <big>NEVER</big> said that arceus created giratina. it's probable that they are a trio, but leave it until we have definitive proof. '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|808080|Origami}}{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|FF8000|Guy}}-{{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|808080|T}}-{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|FF8000|C}}-{{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|0080FF|M}}''' 11:21, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

::We do have definate proof, it says so on the trios page or talk page. They are a trio, and we know that Arceus created them. [[User:Sailor Earth|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Sailor Earth| of]][[User talk:Sailor Earth| Earth]] 11:23, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

:::[[Talk:Dragon_trio|Look Here]]

::::ahem.
::::''(Copied from [[Dragon trio]])''
::::Dragon trio is a term used by many Pokémon fans to refer to three legendary Pokémon that '''''may or may not be a legendary trio of the Sinnoh region'''''. It is composed of three Pokémon: Dialga, Palkia and Giratina. 
::::'''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|808080|Origami}}{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|FF8000|Guy}}-{{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|808080|T}}-{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|FF8000|C}}-{{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|0080FF|M}}''' 11:28, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

:::::Now you [[Talk:Dragon_trio|Look Here]]!!!
::::::Which bit? use <nowiki>[[Talk:Dragon_trio#(section name)|Look Here]]</nowiki> '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|808080|Origami}}{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|FF8000|Guy}}-{{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|808080|T}}-{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|FF8000|C}}-{{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|0080FF|M}}''' 11:38, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh, thanx for telling me how to link to a particular section. [[User:Sailor Earth|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Sailor Earth| of]][[User talk:Sailor Earth| Earth]] 12:04, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

== Category titles ==

Make sure not to use title case on them. Unlike regular pages and templates and such... they're impossible to move and redirect. So make sure that things aren't in title case unless they're titles. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 18:26, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
:Okay, sorry, i didn't know the rules about that. i know now so i will stick to it in future. '''[[:User:Origamiguy|Lord]] of [[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Ori]][[Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|gami]]''' 15:47, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

== Girlfriend Help ==
''(I know i'm not meant to use my talkpage for myspace-ish junk, just let me get an answer and then i'll remove this)''.

more help needed i'm afraid, here's the thing:
we're both performing in our school's summer concert tonight, and i was going to ask her out at the end. is this a good idea? '''[[:User:Origamiguy|Lord]] of [[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Ori]][[Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|gami]]''' 15:47, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
:Yep[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|Emperor's Cookies]] 15:48, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
::alright, {{tt|i'll do it|if i dont chicken out again...}} '''[[:User:Origamiguy|Lord]] of [[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Ori]][[Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|gami]]''' 15:52, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
:::BTW, if you want a more friendly place to discuss this, go here:http://ipgl.proboards84.com/index.cgi?,make an account, go to non bulbapedia discussion or the dump, and make a new thred there. Ok?[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|Emperor's Cookies]] 17:32, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

::::[http://ipgl.proboards84.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=bulbapedia&thread=82 done]. '''[[:User:Origamiguy|Lord]] of [[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Ori]][[Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|gami]]''' 12:13, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

== external links ==

how do you hide the little image next to them? '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|ff8000|gami}}''' 18:52, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

and can I link to other bulbawiki sites (news/archives) without it being an external link? '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|ff8000|gami}}''' 18:56, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

== Personal images ==
These are your personal images,
*[[a:Image:80pxOG2.png]]
*[[a:Image:ShoopDaWhoop.png]]
:I wish to keep the following:
:*[[a:Image:80pxOG2.png]]
:*[[a:Image:ShoopDaWhoop.png]]
:Thankyou '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|ff8000|gami}}''' 09:24, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
::Thank you very much! I am so glad you responded so I didn't have to delete them all like I will have to for some come Sunday. Remember, there are always alternate image hosting sites if you need more for yourself. The above comment shall now be deleted! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 12:40, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

== Missions ==

They will have to be purged. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 14:19, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
:removed links to them, feel free to delete all under User:Origamiguy/Mission
:and another thing, what happened to [[User:Origamiguy/Notices]]? i had it so that i could have notices on both my talk page and user page without making multiple edits. '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|ff8000|gami}}''' 10:57, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

== New tag ==

[[Template:User Admin Candidate]]

Use it. Now. :D --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 00:29, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
==glatra==
What is glatra?I don`t really believe in it from what I`ve read.So can you tell me more about it?Put it on my talk page.--[[User:Xam430|Xam430]] 18:12, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

P.S. Do you really do origami?--[[User:Xam430|Xam430]] 18:36, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

its a fake glitch 'mon made up by Darkrai Breeder.
and yes, i do origami, hence the name. Check [http://origami-guy.deviantart.com/gallery] for a few pics. '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|ff8000|gami}}''' 10:12, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

wow,you are pretty good at origami.I have done some myself but not as good,but about glatra is there or was there ever an article about it? --[[User:Xam430|Xam430]] 22:26, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
oh and please put your replies on my talk page--[[User:Xam430|Xam430]] 22:27, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

who is this guy? he seems like he`s wasting his time trying to prove some fake pokemon he photoshopped is real,he`s fighting a losing battle.any one who STRONGLY wants him to stop talking about glatra put your signature on my talk page in the section darkrai breeder
--[[User:Xam430|Xam430]] 22:49, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

please note Im not trying to offend him----[[User:Xam430|Xam430]] 22:49, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

==Please==
Slow down on editing the <code>User:</code> namespace. There are only three userspace edits allowed per day, and you have gone over the limit. Editing your userpage too much will lead to it being locked again. Instead of making multiple small edits, why not instead use the preview button (Alt + Shift + P) to check your edits before saving the page? Thank you. ----'''[[User:Diby|Di]]'''[[User talk:Diby|b]][[Special:Contributions/Diby|y]] 12:02, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
:sorry. won't happen again. '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|f80|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|f80|Ori}}{{Colored link|User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|08f|gami}}''' 12:04, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

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2008-10-15T12:00:41Z

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2008-10-15T11:57:10Z

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2008-10-15T11:56:31Z

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User:Origamiguy/Mudkipz

2008-10-15T11:54:59Z

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2008-10-15T11:54:15Z

Origamiguy:

User talk:Darkrai breeder/Archive 1

2008-10-15T11:52:59Z

Origamiguy: /* darkrai breeder */

==L8ter guys==
Bye, im leaving bulbapedia. but dont delete anything!--[[User:Darkrai breeder|DaRkRaIbReEdEr LiEkS rOtOm]] 23:28, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
:But if you're leaving, you're never gonna come back so what's the point of keeping it? I'll delete it all!!!! •'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 23:30, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

== test==
--[[User:Darkrai breeder|DaRkRaIbReEdEr [[Image:rotom.jpg]]LiEkS rOtOm]] 19:02, 27 April 2008 (UTC) just a test

==GRRRRRRR!!!! HOW!!!!==
I WAS HACKED BY...... CHRIS!!!!! MY FELLOW CAMPER!!!! AND HE PHOTOSHOPPED THE PICS!!!!
I WILL HAVE TO WORK ALONE!!!!!!! AND I NEED A GAME!!!!!!!!!! he knew my OLD PASSWORD WAS SOGEL
*breaths angrily* later guys

==SMASH==
This user has had his head smashed against the wall

==pickup truck glitch==
I have 1 question. Is it possible to get mew from it? please anwser.
:No. Never ever has been. It's not a glitch either. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:00, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
:what is it then? i saw someone catch mew that way. but i think it was a hack.it did seem hard
to belive --{{ani|491}}[[User:Darkrai breeder|'''Darkrai''']]{{ani|493}}[[User talk:Darkrai breeder|'''breeder''']]{{ani|009}} 02:39, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
[--{{ani|491}}[[User:Darkrai breeder|'''Darkrai''']]{{ani|493}}[[User talk:Darkrai breeder|'''breeder''']]{{ani|009}} 02:52, 14 April 2008 (UTC) almost hacked up his lungs]

damit didnt work. mabye i should try again. *opens new window and checks glatra pic. emails* any questions email me --{{ani|491}}[[User:Darkrai breeder|'''Darkrai''']]{{ani|493}}[[User talk:Darkrai breeder|'''breeder''']]{{ani|009}} 22:50, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

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Thank you, and have a good time editing here! [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 00:11, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

== HELP! ==

dude, Go to pokemaniac's talk page and argue.--{{ani|197}}[[User:Glatra|'''gLa''']][[User talk:Glatra|'''TrA''']][[User:Glatra/Riddles|'''☆''']]{{ani|196}} 03:21, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

:Why are you gathering support for an arguement that has no credence? [[Image:Ani197MS.gif]][[User:Midnight Celtic|Midnight Celtic]][[Image:Ani148MS.gif]] 03:26, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

::this is My friend. The guy who gave me the picture. Right--{{ani|197}}[[User:Glatra|'''gLa''']][[User talk:Glatra|'''TrA''']][[User:Glatra/Riddles|'''☆''']]{{ani|196}} 03:59, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

== Do you perhaps... ==

Breed Darkrai? XD (One time comment.) [[User:Tesh|'''TESHIGIGAS''']] [[Image:486MS.png|RAWR!!]] 23:34, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

um... When i had my pokemon pearl i used the cloning glitch--{{ani|491}}[[User:Darkrai breeder|'''Darkrai''']]{{ani|493}}[[User talk:Darkrai breeder|'''breeder''']]{{ani|009}} 23:38, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

== technical difficultys==

we will be facing some technical difficultys so go sit on your ass at a friends house and play
brawl. or pikmin 2, or kingdom hearts 2. '''AND STOP EDITING MY PAGE OR FALL TO MY ARMY'''
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i'd make more but im lazy. AND MY NAME IS'NT NICK LURYE
I am now going on bulbabreak so i can beat brawl.

== Glatra ==

Youtube{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 19:59, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

== Hmm ==
I have received from a VERY RELIABLE source that you and the user Glatra are the same person. Any words?{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 22:04, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
:NO F***ING WAY!WE ARE NEIGHBORS!!!!!!!!! besides i have 1 and 1 only email address.you would know and whoever said that needs to rethink there life.--{{ani|491}}[[User:Darkrai breeder|'''Darkrai''']]{{ani|493}}[[User talk:Darkrai breeder|'''breeder''']]{{ani|009}} 00:46, 24 March 2008 (UTC)--{{ani|491}}[[User:Darkrai breeder|'''Darkrai''']]{{ani|493}}[[User talk:Darkrai breeder|'''breeder''']]{{ani|009}} 00:46, 24 March 2008 (UTC)--{{ani|491}}[[User:Darkrai breeder|'''Darkrai''']]{{ani|493}}[[User talk:Darkrai breeder|'''breeder''']]{{ani|009}} 00:46, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
::So you're using the same internet? Under certain situations, that's illegal. And one more thing, is that the only reason? You're Glatra's neighbor? And like I said, PROVE ON YOUTUBE{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 00:54, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
:Someone has anger issues[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|'''C ''']] [[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|'''Is''']] [[User:Darth Cookie Monster/My Story|'''for Cookie''']]
::Ya think?{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 00:58, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
:::I know[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|'''C ''']] [[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|'''Is''']] [[User:Darth Cookie Monster/My Story|'''for Cookie''']]
STOP IT OR IM BLOCKING YOU @#$%&*(s
:You can't block us, you're not an authorative power. Just get it on youtube, or does it exist?{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 01:08, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
::It does not exist. IT IS A LIE. GLATRA IS A LIE[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|'''C ''']] [[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|'''Is''']] [[User:Darth Cookie Monster/My Story|'''for Cookie''']]
:::DARTH COOKIE MONSTER! How would you know!!?!!! Give them a freakin chance!{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 01:17, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
::::The only picture he had was badly photoshopped[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|'''C ''']] [[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|'''Is''']] [[User:Darth Cookie Monster/My Story|'''for Cookie''']]
:::::AGAIN! I said to give him a chance, to get a video on youtube.{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 01:18, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
good someone still belives it
:FINE! I will go vent elsewhere[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|'''C ''']] [[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|'''Is''']] [[User:Darth Cookie Monster/My Story|'''for Cookie''']]
::I said that I will give you a chance, now my patience is cutting short. I want a video soon{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 01:22, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
i dont have a game! but glatra does!--{{ani|491}}[[User:Darkrai breeder|'''Darkrai''']]{{ani|493}}[[User talk:Darkrai breeder|'''breeder''']]{{ani|009}} 02:48, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
:Um, you live right next to him{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 02:56, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
ohhhhh, yeah tommorrow i will try to get glatra. it will take 5 days at the least. just be patient. also get as many people as possible to try.
::Nope, not gonna happen. Only YOU, Glatra, and ME believe that Glatra has a chance of appearing, and I don't have the game either. It's up to Glatra, EVERYTHING is up to Glatra. No pressure{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 03:10, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
:::what are the steps to get this stupid thing? im 99.99999% sure its totally fake, but im the only one here who has an AR (other than this kid i guess) and frankly, im tired of this filling up the recent changes. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 03:56, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
::::I think it's somewhere on my archived talk page. Let me find it{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 03:58, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
<big><big>NO PRESSURE?!THAT HAPPENS TO BE A LOT OF PRESSURE!I'M THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN DO THIS?!CRAP!oh and by the way...<big><big><big>SOMEONE DELETED MY USERPAGE!!!--{{ani|197}}[[User:Glatra|'''gLa''']][[User talk:Glatra|'''TrA''']][[User:Glatra/Riddles|'''☆''']]{{ani|196}} 21:59, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
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USING ACTION REPLAY!
#Breed Uxie with a Beautifly (press L R before it hatches)
#Then breed that with a Gengar
#Then breed that with a Spiritomb
#Then breed that with a Palkia
#Then breed that with a Metagross
#Then breed that with a Heracross
OKAY! THERE IS NO WAY GLATRA CAME BY THIS BY ACCIDENT!
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{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 04:08, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
:well, given the whole "legendaries cant breed" thing, its already proposterous. however, i did find an AR code allowing legendaries to breed. if it works, then im willing to waste my time to MAKE EVERYONE SHUT UP ABOUT THIS STUPID THING! so, give me a few days, and ill get back to you. unless....one of these kids wants to come clean about the whole thing...and maybe just spill the beans that its completely fake. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 04:38, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
::Remember, Mag, pics or it didn't happen. Though I doubt you'd say it's true if it isn't. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]][[Image:Ani155MS.gif|Fire echy]]''' 07:10, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
can some one please read the next disscussion
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Forgive me for intruding but who or what is Glatra? [[User:Agent008]]

== GLATRA ScrEWY glitch==
way # 2 to get glatra
:1. get master code on action replay.
:2. turn on that and run anywhere
:3. go to spear pillar and put the map on Y button
:4. run off the edge of spear pillar
:5. after 3 minutes you will end up on the route outside snowpoint
:6. go north until you see mystery zone changing colors.
:7. You will '''transport''' to iron island cave. this is good. save and prepare to hear a loud screech.
:8. shut off ds and use manaphy egg cheat
:9. get a palkia, spiritomb, and metagross.prepare to say goodbye to them
:10. get the egg and go to spear pillar.
:11. it will hatch and destroy palkia, spiritomb, and metagross. '''remember bring 2 more Pokémon!'''
:12. catch it with any ball. /it has catch rate of a bedoof and starts lvl 10/
SEE is '''THAT''' DIFFICULT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
moves in begining
.dialgas sig. move
. Palkias sig. move
.judgement
. luster plurge
[[Image:glatra.jpg]]
OMG THAT IS BLATANTLY FAKE! Look at the 'choppiness' around spiritomb. even i could do better! [[Image:Ani258MS.gif]][[User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]] Lieks [[Mudkip (Pokémon)|Mudkipz]][[Image:Ani258MS.gif]] 19:10, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
fake? or shity graphics. and i could paint a better one IF I HAD PHOTOSHOP OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
if it were real, you would have provided a photo, not a deliberately faked MS paint image - therefore its fake. [[Image:Ani258MS.gif]][[User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]] Lieks [[Mudkip (Pokémon)|Mudkipz]][[Image:Ani258MS.gif]] 19:17, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
oragami guy, are glitches clean like[[Image:mew.jpg]]or weirdly graphicaised
like [[Image:missingno.jpg]]hm! are they
yes but glitches are not just 'choppy round the edges' combinations of exising sprites [[Image:Ani258MS.gif]][[User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]] Lieks [[Mudkip (Pokémon)|Mudkipz]][[Image:Ani258MS.gif]] 19:48, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
:--{{ani|491}}[[User:Darkrai breeder|'''Darkrai''']]{{ani|493}}[[User talk:Darkrai breeder|'''breeder''']]{{ani|009}} 18:13, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
:HOLD THE LINE. there is NO WAY im going to save my game OUT OF BOUNDS. have i been out of bounds? sure i have, but this just seems like an elaborate plan to RUIN SOMONES GAME. the former method is at least somwhat safe. that being said IM GOING TO ADVISE ANYONE READING THIS TO NOT TRY THE ABOVE METHOD. also, to TTE, i know how it works; Screenshot, or it didnt happen. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]'''{{Ani|081}} 04:31, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
::This sounds more like bullshit than the other one. Do we need to have Strength and move the truck that we encounter by having FireRed or LeafGreen in the bottom slot with their OWN GameShark? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]][[Image:Ani155MS.gif|Fire echy]]''' 05:35, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
:::An alternative is getting a fake one at a much lower price. {{ani|493}}'''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|Optimus35, to be exact...>.>;;;</nowiki>">Optimatum]]</sc>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]{{{1|10:08 25 Mar 2008}}}'''
hey its imposible to save in mystery zone! you go into the iron island cave because you go out of its programing and you '''teleport'''!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:Oy vey.{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 17:48, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
::There isn't a route outside Snowpoint either... [[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']]{{Ani|128}}[[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']] 17:53, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
:: Oh yeah? then how do you get to snowpoint?
--{{ani|491}}[[User:Darkrai breeder|'''Darkrai''']]{{ani|493}}[[User talk:Darkrai breeder|'''breeder''']]{{ani|009}} 17:59, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Acuity Lakefront [[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']]{{Ani|128}}[[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']] 18:00, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
::::Which is a route--{{ani|491}}[[User:Darkrai breeder|'''Darkrai''']]{{ani|493}}[[User talk:Darkrai breeder|'''breeder''']]{{ani|009}} 18:02, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::Do you see the word '''route''' in [[Acuity Lakefront]]...no. It is not a route! [[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']]{{Ani|128}}[[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']] 18:06, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::: i dont see any city or town either and its long enough to be a route!
--{{ani|491}}[[User:Darkrai breeder|'''Darkrai''']]{{ani|493}}[[User talk:Darkrai breeder|'''breeder''']]{{ani|009}} 18:08, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::does someone know how the hell you beat elite 4 in firered??????--{{ani|491}}[[User:Darkrai breeder|'''Darkrai''']]{{ani|493}}[[User talk:Darkrai breeder|'''breeder''']]{{ani|009}} 18:30, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::is anyone on right now?--{{ani|491}}[[User:Darkrai breeder|'''Darkrai''']]{{ani|493}}[[User talk:Darkrai breeder|'''breeder''']]{{ani|009}} 18:33, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::: ACUITY LAKEFRONT.
:::::::: A C '''U''' I '''T''' Y L A K '''E''' F '''R''' '''O''' N T.
:::::::: '''U T E R O'''.
:::::::: REARRANGE THEM. '''UTERO''' BECOMES '''ROUTE'''
:::::::: But i'm not saving OOB [[Image:Ani258MS.gif]][[User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]] Lieks [[Mudkip (Pokémon)|Mudkipz]][[Image:Ani258MS.gif]] 18:34, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::ok....and who the hell are you
::::::::::a user. duh. [[Image:Ani258MS.gif]][[User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]] Lieks [[Mudkip (Pokémon)|Mudkipz]][[Image:Ani258MS.gif]] 18:38, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::I know. but who are you?
::::::::::::Just your average pokemon fan who likes messing with glitches but doesn't want to completely screw his game. I also have an AR, but I don't use it on diamond. Much. I'm also a bit of a geek.[[Image:Ani258MS.gif]][[User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]] Lieks [[Mudkip (Pokémon)|Mudkipz]][[Image:Ani258MS.gif]] 18:43, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::::I suspect that he is a guy, specializing in origami, and is a fan of Pokémon games, as well as being quite knowledgable about the glitches of the games.{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 18:45, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::::::Good sir, you are absolutely correct! Take my "stating the obvious" award <nowiki>{{User:Origamiguy/Prizes/User stating obvious}}</nowiki>. soon. [[Image:Ani258MS.gif]][[User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]] Lieks [[Mudkip (Pokémon)|Mudkipz]][[Image:Ani258MS.gif]] 18:48, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::Duh it's obvious, and No I can't take it, where am I going to put it?{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 18:49, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::Have you done the glitch?{{Ani|493}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|'''C ''']]{{Ani|491}}[[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|''' Is''']]{{Ani|426}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster/My Story|'''for Cookie''']]{{Ani|473}}
:::::::::::::::::before,yes. recently, about to
::::::::::::::::::Good, MAKE A VIDEO< PUT IT ON YOUTUBE{{Ani|493}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|'''C ''']]{{Ani|491}}[[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|''' Is''']]{{Ani|426}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster/My Story|'''for Cookie''']]{{Ani|473}}
:::::::::::::::::::'''IF ANYONE BESIDES POKEMANIAC102,GLATRA,oragami guy ,OR ME EDITS THIS PAGE, I WILL RIP YOUR HEAD OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!'''{{ani|491}}[[User:Darkrai breeder|'''Darkrai''']]{{ani|493}}[[User talk:Darkrai breeder|'''breeder''']]{{ani|009}} 21:53, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::::::C is for cookies just STFU!
::::::::::::::::::::You do not scare me{{Ani|493}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|'''C ''']]{{Ani|491}}[[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|''' Is''']]{{Ani|426}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster/My Story|'''for Cookie''']]{{Ani|473}}
:::::::::::::::::::::STOP EDITING MY PAGE YOU mother F***er
::::::::::::::::::::::NO thanks, I am good{{Ani|493}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|'''C ''']]{{Ani|491}}[[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|''' Is''']]{{Ani|426}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster/My Story|'''for Cookie''']]{{Ani|473}}
:::::::::::::::::::::::I HATE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
::::::::::::::::::::::::Why, cause I don't believe Glatra is real and is just a lie?{{Ani|493}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|'''C ''']]{{Ani|491}}[[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|''' Is''']]{{Ani|426}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster/My Story|'''for Cookie''']]{{Ani|473}}
:::::::::::::::::::::::::(calming down) because you are pissing me off. DO--(calm down darkrai) nevermind
::::::::::::::::::::::::::I am talking calmly. YOu are not. I am stating facts. You are not{{Ani|493}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|'''C ''']]{{Ani|491}}[[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|''' Is''']]{{Ani|426}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster/My Story|'''for Cookie''']]{{Ani|473}}
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::Can we get back to the subject of glatra and stop throwing abuse at each other? [[Image:Ani258MS.gif]][[User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]] Lieks [[Mudkip (Pokémon)|Mudkipz]][[Image:Ani258MS.gif]] 19:08, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
ok but only if you guys stop pissing me off or will.......hmmm.i'll have to come back on that thought.and can someone get cookie blocked.--{{ani|491}}[[User:Darkrai breeder|'''Darkrai''']]{{ani|493}}[[User talk:Darkrai breeder|'''breeder''']]{{ani|009}} 18:53, 28 March 2008 (UTC) and I am stating the facts!
:For what? I edit the main space and don't spread rumors. I fix Vandals or Mistakes that people make. I did nithing wrong other than strongly state my opinion{{Ani|493}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|'''C ''']]{{Ani|491}}[[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|''' Is''']]{{Ani|426}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster/My Story|'''for Cookie''']]{{Ani|473}}
'k --{{ani|491}}[[User:Darkrai breeder|'''Darkrai''']]{{ani|493}}[[User talk:Darkrai breeder|'''breeder''']]{{ani|009}} 03:38, 29 March 2008 (UTC) '''but still you can at least edit this disscusion to another user page so I dont get emailed every 5 minutes'''
:You know, you can turn off the emailing through your preferences. Also, Cookie is much better than you[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|Maniac]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|102]] 03:56, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
::why bother. i already disproved the glitch. Glatra does NOT exsist. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 04:51, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
::::YOu did!!! Then I can go delete that tag on my page[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|'''C ''']] [[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|'''Is''']] [[User:Darth Cookie Monster/My Story|'''for Cookie''']]
Yeah magnadeath want to know what i say about glatra being fake? *sticks up the bird* and have
you even tried? or are you pissing off 6 people for laughs? Chris,Zurel,Rhett,Luckshea,Glatra,
and me all have seen glatra. And this is all chris had to say *double duce*! To you and all
non-belivers. GLATRA EXISTS TO ALL GAMES RELEASED before 7/24/07! so tell us when you got your
game --{{ani|491}}[[User:Darkrai breeder|'''Darkrai''']]{{ani|493}}[[User talk:Darkrai breeder|'''breeder''']]{{ani|009}} 18:22, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
:Proof what you just said. Make a video of you and your friends finding Glatra and put it on YouTube. Then we'll believe you. '''[[User:Haruka uzumaki|うずまき]][[User talk:Haruka uzumaki|ハルカ]]''' 18:27, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
::Exactly. If something strange like this ever happened in my game I would take a picture right away, so... [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Dracofang Gym|'''n-Z''']] 18:30, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
new rule: nobody can edit unless i know who the hell they are!also i will make a EDIT AND GET
BLOCKED rule list--{{ani|491}}[[User:Darkrai breeder|'''Darkrai''']]{{ani|493}}[[User talk:Darkrai breeder|'''breeder''']]{{ani|009}} 18:33, 30 March 2008 (UTC) edit it and die
:... [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Dracofang Gym|'''n-Z''']] 18:34, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
:Hm-hm. So...what should this mean? '''[[User:Haruka uzumaki|うずまき]][[User talk:Haruka uzumaki|ハルカ]]''' 18:37, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
::What is that about?[[User:Darth Cookie Monster]] 16:05, 5 April 2008 (UTC)</big>

== Behavior ==

Please do not go making threats and intimidating other users. Trust me, you do NOT want to be my first block. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 22:05, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
:(calmly) the other users are pissing me off
::So? Your offered proof was a crappy jpg of Spiritomb on a Metagross with a pearl between them. The least you could do is get their png-format, crisp sprites ([[Image:442.png]] and [[Image:376.png]], respectively) and edit it so it's not just Spiritomb on top of Metagross. You also didn't even name Dialga and Palkia's signature moves, despite the fact that you should know their names because that's all the game displays: {{m|Roar of Time}} and {{m|Spacial Rend}}. The fact that they're D and P's signature moves means nothing to the game, since I have a Darkrai with both moves.
::Get a video of yourself or your friend finding Glatra and we'll be more than happy to give it a page. The burden of proof is with the claimant. Most cameras take video, and YouTube is easy to register to. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]][[Image:Ani155MS.gif|Fire echy]]''' 19:46, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
:::All of a sudden, I feel like risking Ozzie's Darkrai and my game. By the way, Brazil might not have WALMARTS with AR, but HELL. Singapore doesn't even have a Walmart! Anyway, off I go to hack the hell out of my game. Ciao. {{ani|493}}'''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|Optimus35, to be exact...>.>;;;</nowiki>">Optimatum]]</sc>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]{{{1|09:20 27 Mar 2008}}}'''

Two-week block. You were warned not to make threats. Harassing others to try to get your way is not civil behavior. Please take these two weeks to learn how to conduct conversation without resorting to harassment. For instance, you could try an anger management class.

Additionally, if you really want to prove this "Glatra" is real, you're best off taking people's advice on how to prove it, not trying to flame the hell out of someone who's trying to help. All it takes is one unaltered video and Glatra might join the ranks of glitch Pokémon such as [[B óË ÁN]]. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 18:51, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

==I Found It==
OMG Darkrai Breeder I found it! Thank you sooo much it's my favorite Pokemon! http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg24/NFLDPKMN/glatrap.png [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 01:59, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
ok. hard to belive. but did you hack? if so, good job. but whered ya see it?
::I did. I bought an action replay just to get this kick ass Pokemon. And I found it at spear pillar, of course. [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 22:37, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
o_O *takes look at backround* why is there '''GRASS''' ?

==what the==
WTFWTFWTFWTFWTFWTFWTF!!! is that real?
:you will find the answer youre looking for on my talk page... -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 04:01, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
==[[User talk:Jioruji Derako|Look at the top of this page.]]==
'''[[User:Pachirisulover12|P]][[User talk:Pachirisulover12|L]][[User:Pachirisulover12/Trade Shop|1]][[User:Pachirisulover12/Discharge Gym|2]]''' 22:55, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

== LOOK ==

Just admit that it is fake and get this all over with!'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 23:12, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

:*thinks* no. im one of those people who wont give up. Glatra does exist. but i need a FRIKIN game! also did you belive glatra before?
:If so why dont you belive it any more. AND i got the first picture from my emails. and any complaints gmail me at
nicklurye@gmail.com ok? good.--[[User:Darkrai breeder|'''Darkrai''']] [[User talk:Darkrai breeder|'''breeder''']] 23:43, 16 April 2008 (UTC) also the email isnt my name. i just made up the name

I never said I believed you, I said to give you a chance, and you failed. Plus, you can't breed legendaries with anything but ditto... UNTIL I SEE THE '''VIDEO''' WITH MY OWN EYES, I DON'T BELIEVE YOU'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 23:48, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
:one off-topic question: Have you ever trusted a bumbling snitch bug like chris? he always says tommorow i will send you the video.
::IT HAS BEEN A FREAKIN MONTH! no offence to other bumbling snitch bugs--[[User:Darkrai breeder|'''Darkrai''']] [[User talk:Darkrai breeder|'''breeder''']] 23:53, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

We don't care about others. WE WANT '''YOU''' TO GET '''THE VIDEO''' '''''NOW''''' '''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 23:58, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
:::did you or did you not remember i ONLY have firered. i lost pearl before i joined bulbapedia! sorry but i cant get a pokemon pearl with a snap of my fingers.if ANYONE has a question gmail me. but if your not careful, my computer can tell me about a virus and block your email.--[[User:Darkrai breeder|'''Darkrai''']] [[User talk:Darkrai breeder|'''breeder''']] 02:26, 17 April 2008 (UTC) now im going on addictinggames.com.cya tomorrow.
::::If you have no proof of Glatra to show us, video or not, then do not say it is real. problem solved[[User:Darth Cookie Monster]] 21:07, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
ok. umm and who is the guy who introduced glatra to GLATRA? me.also you cant say its fake unless i say so. P.S. CrazyBarkswantapiratehat!
:What?[[User:Darth Cookie Monster]] 13:45, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
::Out of curiosity, why can't we say it's fake without you saying so? Everyome has their own opinion. Oh and btw, wasn't this over, like 3 months ago? [[User:Midnight Celtic|Midnight]][[User talk:Midnight Celtic|Celtic]] 22:37, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
:::It was, but this genius has decided to bring it back up[[User:Darth Cookie Monster]] 00:41, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
::::I'll only believe it if i see a video, or a screenshot. '''[[User:Pachirisulover12|PL]][[User talk:Pachirisulover12|12]]''' 00:43, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
:::::Why is the text so small?[[User:Darth Cookie Monster]] 00:45, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
::::::I have no idea, but the same goes for me with the video•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 00:46, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
:::::::I will never believe it[[User:Darth Cookie Monster]] 01:20, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
::::::::Admittedly, I probably could try it, but for one thing, obvious fake, and two, my AR is so out of date, (I think it's v 1.2, or something like that) and I don't feel like updating it sans putting new games because my internet is slow. Dial-up anyone? And I must say, grats to Porygon-Z. That is the best fake I have seen in a very long time. In paint, Was it? [[User:Midnight Celtic|Midnight]][[User talk:Midnight Celtic|Celtic]] 12:52, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

: LOOK, I HAD TO WRITE A REPORT ABOUT A GUY I DONT KNOW ABOUT IN 3 F%$@ING WEEKS. I COULD ONLY GO ON AT 1 MINUTE A DAY. and i have the video, but i dont feel like uploading it. ok.
Glatra exists and i have 2 videos in my inbox and i might stop going on bulbapedia. glatra exists but you guys are jackasses
::THREE WEEKS!! that is plenty of time to do a report. When you get to high school, reports are usually done in two days! And if this is a problem for you...don't take Advanced Placement English where you have about twelve essays a week to do. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 22:58, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
:you dont ''feel'' like uploading it? welcome to the {{tt|bottom of the barrel|you lose.}}. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 23:38, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
::YOu might stop going on bulbapedia!! Why, because no one believes your lies to get attention{{tt|!|once again, you lose. Try again?}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster]] 14:36, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
I TYPE VERY SLOW!!!!!!!!!!!!! i am going on a pikmin wiki because bulbapedia IS FULL OF IDOTS.and pikmin rocks pokemon meh. I just went here to prove a glitch but people are trying
to rip my head of. '''snagretpikmin'''
::Yaaaaaa good luck with that. '''[[User:Pachirisulover12|PL]][[User talk:Pachirisulover12|12]]''' 21:59, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
what do you mean... hold on. thats better.
can SOMEONE thats been a admin for a while write down a list of reasons to get blocked on my page. and im talking about pokemaniac ect. thanks

# I'M NOT AN ADMIN!
# If this is still about Glatra, I'm giving you till the end of this month to show up with a video.
•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 23:04, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

:Wait a minute, Darkrai breeder. Who do you want blocked? Secondly, Pokemaniac, you don't exactly have the authority to tell him how long he has. If he can provide proof, we'll go along with Glatra. Period. --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 23:06, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
::I know, I just want to scare him to go faster... I'll go along with it if he has proof of course as well•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 23:08, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
:::I can vouch for Glatra's existence. But it WILL NOT be on 'pedia. Why? FOR PEEKS SAKE YOU NEED AR! '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Optimatum</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]'''26 Apr 2008
::::Sigh. There's no god damn glatra. I'm not even spelling it with a {{wp|capital G}} anymore because it's NOT a Pokemon! Darkrai Breeder just want s attention, and to get every one going, and he's doing it! Don't you think that if it really was in the game that MANY people would have found it by now? Don't you think the people who made AR would have included a code? THERE IS NO GLATRA. THERE WILL BE NO VIDEO. THAT'S IT. SUCK IT UP. [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 03:06, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
:::::Very well done Porygon-Z, you have laid out the entire situation. Now it's time to leave this behind and forget its existence•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 03:09, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
:GLATRA EXISTS! YOU HACK YOUR GAME TO GET IT! TRUST ME! BUT BECAUSE IT IS A HACK, DB GO TO HELL!!'''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Optimatum</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]'''26 Apr 2008
::hes right, i did find it after all. check my talk page! -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 03:17, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
:::Of my previous comment, I mean not only Porygon-Z but also Magnedeth•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 03:19, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
it is a glitch.not a hack
:HACK! HACK! HACK! '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Optimatum</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]'''26 Apr 2008
::Wait, I don't understand this, does Glatra exist? If it does, what is it?•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 03:43, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
:::the steps to get glatra include breeding Uxie with Beutifly. THIS IS NOT POSSIBLE AT ALL. NOT EVEN WITH AN ACTION REPLAY. end of story. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 04:02, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
:::: have you ever gotten a bad egg?
::::: and i dont '''WANT OR NEED''' atention.
Fine, I'll give u at'''t'''ention (That's what you get for spelling mistakes!)--[[User:Kuki|Kuki (w/ a Broken Diamond)]] 16:48, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Look people. I hate to seem like a moody little [insert word here], but get over it. Glatra is not real, it's obvious too the people here who actually have common sense. :\ No one hate me for pointing that out please, but the whole Glatra thing is getting annoying. Darkrai Breeder, Glatra is something you made up, get over it and stop trying too prove it's real when it obviously isn't. If it was, people who'd hack into Diamond/Pearl/Whatever game would have found it when they found Pokémon like Arceus and Shaymin. [[User:Takoto|Takoto]] 17:09, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
:That's what people are trying to say. (although, actually there was a user named Glatra who made Glatra up...) but anyway. There is seriously no precedent, and we have gone around for forever, but some people don't know when to give up. [[User:Midnight Celtic|Midnight]][[User talk:Midnight Celtic|Celtic]] 13:26, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
::Why don't people just ignore the people who say Glatra is real? I mean, it's totally pointless for the discussion too go on and on, it'll never end |: [[User:Takoto|Takoto]] 13:51, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
::: GLATRA(the user)wont be on bulbapedia due to a sprained ankle. AND HE DIDNT MAKE GLATRA UP HE ACUALLY SAW IT A WHILE BACK. and i told him about the glitch. --{{SUBST:User:Darkrai breeder/Signature}} 17:54, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
:+smiles+ hold on. why are there articels about things that you need action replay/gameshark on this website (ex. mystery zone, bad egg) might as well give up on glatra not existing. AND i could mail you a non-hacked pearl version where you can see it exists. and i will throw in 12 deoxys if it exists. if the game was hacked, it wont allow trade so no deoxys. not to mention that hack engines dont work on my cpu. {{unsigned|Darkrai breeder}}
::you expect me to believe that you found Glatra, when you dont even know how to use HTML? yea right. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 18:11, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
WTF does html have to do with glatra from what you think--{{SUBST:User:Darkrai breeder/Signature}} 18:16, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
and i saw it with my own 2 eyes *count on fingers* exacly 4 times!
:I'm pretty sure Magnedeth is saying that you're to dumb to find it. Why don't you mail it to me?•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 18:26, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
:Yah, when you saw the photoshopped image......[[User:Darth Cookie Monster]] 18:27, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
::Oh! that was so obviously fake•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 18:29, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
:::That is my point...............[[User:Darth Cookie Monster]] 18:30, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
:::: I will gladly get anyone on bulbapedia a glatra. and why is there a link to neopets on the mew page?
:::::Fine, get me one.[[User:Darth Cookie Monster]] 18:38, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
::::::ok and i will have to ask why the heck was this disscution deleted. and anyone else want glatra?
:::::::This discussion was removed to prove the point that glatra doesn't exist. Now I don't want it anymore and I don't believe it anymore nor will I ever.•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 18:42, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
::::::::Don't delete it, it is an example about how foolish people can be to get attention[[User:Darth Cookie Monster]] 18:45, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

:I'm Gonna Say this ONE LAST TIME!
:Sigh. There's no god damn glatra. I'm not even spelling it with a {{wp|capital G}} anymore because it's NOT a Pokemon! Darkrai Breeder just want s attention, and to get every one going, and he's doing it! Don't you think that if it really was in the game that MANY people would have found it by now? Don't you think the people who made AR would have included a code? THERE IS NO GLATRA. THERE WILL BE NO VIDEO. THAT'S IT. SUCK IT UP. STOP GIVING HIM ATTENTION! [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 18:46, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
::sigh. 27 pages with the word glatra on it•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 18:47, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
:::Join [[:User_talk:Origamiguy/GNBA|GNBA]] today! '''[[:User:Origamiguy|折り紙ガイ]] - [[:User_talk:Origamiguy|離す]][[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|貢献]]''' 18:52, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
::::I did! Darkrai Breeder, you should join too!•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 18:53, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
::::: [http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=PkTMbyxzTzc&fmt=18 It's over]. [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 22:39, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Nice one, Z!--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 22:45, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
ITS CHEATING TOU B@$TURD!!! Also would i say glatra doesnt exist IF IVE TRYED TO PROVE IT FOR MONTHS!!! EVERYONE ON THIS DISSCUTION IS A B@#$&%^*!!!!!!--[[User:Darkrai breeder|DaRkRaIbReEdEr LiEkS rOtOm]] 23:01, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
:I don't appreciate being called a B, at, number, dollar, and, percent, carrot, asterisk, exclamation points!!! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 23:08, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
'''SCREW YOU!'''--[[User:Darkrai breeder|DaRkRaIbReEdEr LiEkS rOtOm]] 23:11, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
PORGON-Z!!! DELETE THE VIDEO OR I WILL EMAIL THE GUY WHO STARTED BULBAPEDIA TO DISTROY YOUR ACOUNT!!! also, i hate rap.
:He wouldn't be deleted for something that isn't on this site... it is on youtube. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 23:15, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
:well, thats highly uncalled for. if anything, i just gave PGZ's video a 5 star. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 23:16, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
i finished a artical and 10 videos on another website
:I gave it one too! Plus, the creator (you should know by now who he is) wouldn't do that.•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 23:19, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
::There is nothing wrong with the video. There is no hate or anything. And I won't get banned from here for it. However, you might get banned for threatening Origami Guy on his talk page. [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 23:20, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
I dont care anymore. i could leave when the artical is done. then all will see it exists
:What is with you and spelling???? And, you can get blocked for creating the article without proof too many times•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 23:24, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
:::: you now what? i give up on proving it. you guys wont belive it.
:::::That first phrase doesn't make sense. And it doesn't exist.•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 23:28, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
Six-month block. You've been warned multiple times against harassing others, and yet you continue to harass everyone who even hints about this so-called "Glatra" being fake. Making threats against another user's account is crossing the line big-time. You'll have one last chance upon this block expiring, and if you can't clean up your behavior, you'll find yourself permanently blocked. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 23:35, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
:<big><big><big><big>LOL</big></big></big></big> '''[[:User:Origamiguy|折り紙ガイ]] - [[:User_talk:Origamiguy|離す]][[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|貢献]]''' 14:35, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

==Okay==
*{{u|Darkrai breeder}} - Please ''shut up''. You have virtually no control when push comes to shove, and {{u|Zhen Lin}} would not by any means delete {{u|Porygon-Z}}'s account for proving that Glatra is crap.

*{{u|Pokemaniac102}} - Stop goading him on. Just leave him be and he'll simmer down.

*Everybody else - This has gone on far too long. Leave Darkrai breeder alone (at least regarding Glatra) until he can provide reasonable proof of Glatra's existence. --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 23:33, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
:he's been blocked•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 23:38, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
:And I didn't want him to simmer down•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 23:39, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
::Drop it. [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 23:48, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

== [[User talk:Jioruji Derako|Signature Policy]] ==
I've noticed you're still depending on a now-deleted signature template for a signature. As per the new signature policy, which I've linked you to in this section's heading, signature templates are not allowed. You're going to have to put in hard coding if you want a custom signature. I've went ahead and replaced the busted templates in the above heading with your previous signature with the images removed (images in signatures are not allowed under the new policy). I'd recommend using what I've inserted as your signature. Thank you for listening. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 03:32, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

ok....uh....thanks? and what does my new sig look like now? darkrai breeder sig.
:EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW IS [[User talk:Jioruji Derako|HERE]]--'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 20:57, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

at the top of the page, go to "my preferences". then go to "nickname" and copy/paste the following into that spot. (edit the section to get the code)
-- [[User:Darkrai breeder|'''Darkrai''']] [[User talk:Darkrai breeder|'''breeder''']]
then you can sign your comments with the tildes and it will work. (btw, i HIGHLY suggest a darker color) -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 02:52, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

== Talk Page Comments ==

Please don't erase talk page comments for no reason, not even those on your own user talk page. Trust me, you do NOT want to end up like {{u|Big Johnno}}, who got into an edit war with [[User:Fabu-Vinny|a sysop]] over comments the former erased from his talk page and was trying to keep erased. That user ended up blocked and had every erased comment restored. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 21:32, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
:can you have users stop messing up my page?--DaRkRaIbReEdEr LiEkS rOtOm 18:52, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
::Well, bastardly little guy. When you come back 26 days after my PSLE, you might want to read this: REASON FOR INCLUDING MYSTERY ZONE AND BAD EGG: THEY AR PROGRAMMED INTO THE GAME'S DATA. >=( I don't like your attitude one bit. We (The people who hate Glatra) are 365 times more expirienced than you in wiki slang. Glatra is just a result of someone selling you a bloody GAKE game. Think of PGZ's Emerald (or mine). Glatra does not exist. End of story. '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Optimatum</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''09:26 4 May 2008'''''
We're not messing it up, you're just too afraid of the truth! You don't want to be scolded for the various misbehaviors on the eloquent establisment!--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 18:55, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

==Stay Cool Daddio!==
Hi Darkrai,I've read your talk page and you're worst than I am when I'm angry.Here's some advice if the editing starts to get hot.If editing is starting to stress you out, leave Bulbapedia for a while and do something else until you've cooled off then come back on and try to reason with the person who is annoying you. [[User:Agent008]];07/05/2008,00:04.
:He doesn't really have a choice about leaving for a while. He's been blocked. :D --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 23:08, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
::For how long,by whom and for what reason may I ask. [[User:Agent008]]
:::Six months, ShiningPikablu252, and for threatening Origamiguy. Look four sections above you. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Talk))]] 00:01, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
::::Okay thanks.6 months wow its' gonna long be a long time before he shows up around here again [[User:Agent008]]
:::::So my only question is, who invented glatra?
::::::The Darkrai Breeder. The {{u|Glatra}}. And, sadly, Bulbapedia Archives. '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''13:36 3 Jun 2008'''''
:::::::Makes perfect sense.[[User:Agent008]]

Hey uhm, how long until his ban is over? :\ Just wondering [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 17:15, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
i dont know--[[User:Xam430|Xam430]] 18:01, 13 October 2008 (UTC) Im a newbie--[[User:Xam430|Xam430]] 18:02, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
:Umm...why is this so big? Is it just my CPU or what? [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 18:10, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
::There was a wayward <nowiki></nowiki> tag making the text large.

::Anyway, the six months ends on the 27th of this month. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 20:08, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
==darkrai breeder==
put your sig here if you think darkrai breeder should stop talking about glatra --Xam430 22:41, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

please note Im not trying to offend him but I just want him to stop--[[User:Xam430|Xam430]] 23:03, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

[[User_talk:Darkrai_breeder#L8ter_guys|ahem]]. '''[[:User:Origamiguy|Lord]] of [[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Ori]][[Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|gami]]''' 11:51, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

User talk:Darkrai breeder/Archive 1

2008-10-15T11:52:15Z

Origamiguy: /* darkrai breeder */

==L8ter guys==
Bye, im leaving bulbapedia. but dont delete anything!--[[User:Darkrai breeder|DaRkRaIbReEdEr LiEkS rOtOm]] 23:28, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
:But if you're leaving, you're never gonna come back so what's the point of keeping it? I'll delete it all!!!! •'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 23:30, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

== test==
--[[User:Darkrai breeder|DaRkRaIbReEdEr [[Image:rotom.jpg]]LiEkS rOtOm]] 19:02, 27 April 2008 (UTC) just a test

==GRRRRRRR!!!! HOW!!!!==
I WAS HACKED BY...... CHRIS!!!!! MY FELLOW CAMPER!!!! AND HE PHOTOSHOPPED THE PICS!!!!
I WILL HAVE TO WORK ALONE!!!!!!! AND I NEED A GAME!!!!!!!!!! he knew my OLD PASSWORD WAS SOGEL
*breaths angrily* later guys

==SMASH==
This user has had his head smashed against the wall

==pickup truck glitch==
I have 1 question. Is it possible to get mew from it? please anwser.
:No. Never ever has been. It's not a glitch either. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:00, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
:what is it then? i saw someone catch mew that way. but i think it was a hack.it did seem hard
to belive --{{ani|491}}[[User:Darkrai breeder|'''Darkrai''']]{{ani|493}}[[User talk:Darkrai breeder|'''breeder''']]{{ani|009}} 02:39, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
[--{{ani|491}}[[User:Darkrai breeder|'''Darkrai''']]{{ani|493}}[[User talk:Darkrai breeder|'''breeder''']]{{ani|009}} 02:52, 14 April 2008 (UTC) almost hacked up his lungs]

damit didnt work. mabye i should try again. *opens new window and checks glatra pic. emails* any questions email me --{{ani|491}}[[User:Darkrai breeder|'''Darkrai''']]{{ani|493}}[[User talk:Darkrai breeder|'''breeder''']]{{ani|009}} 22:50, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

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Thank you, and have a good time editing here! [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 00:11, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

== HELP! ==

dude, Go to pokemaniac's talk page and argue.--{{ani|197}}[[User:Glatra|'''gLa''']][[User talk:Glatra|'''TrA''']][[User:Glatra/Riddles|'''☆''']]{{ani|196}} 03:21, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

:Why are you gathering support for an arguement that has no credence? [[Image:Ani197MS.gif]][[User:Midnight Celtic|Midnight Celtic]][[Image:Ani148MS.gif]] 03:26, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

::this is My friend. The guy who gave me the picture. Right--{{ani|197}}[[User:Glatra|'''gLa''']][[User talk:Glatra|'''TrA''']][[User:Glatra/Riddles|'''☆''']]{{ani|196}} 03:59, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

== Do you perhaps... ==

Breed Darkrai? XD (One time comment.) [[User:Tesh|'''TESHIGIGAS''']] [[Image:486MS.png|RAWR!!]] 23:34, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

um... When i had my pokemon pearl i used the cloning glitch--{{ani|491}}[[User:Darkrai breeder|'''Darkrai''']]{{ani|493}}[[User talk:Darkrai breeder|'''breeder''']]{{ani|009}} 23:38, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

== technical difficultys==

we will be facing some technical difficultys so go sit on your ass at a friends house and play
brawl. or pikmin 2, or kingdom hearts 2. '''AND STOP EDITING MY PAGE OR FALL TO MY ARMY'''
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i'd make more but im lazy. AND MY NAME IS'NT NICK LURYE
I am now going on bulbabreak so i can beat brawl.

== Glatra ==

Youtube{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 19:59, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

== Hmm ==
I have received from a VERY RELIABLE source that you and the user Glatra are the same person. Any words?{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 22:04, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
:NO F***ING WAY!WE ARE NEIGHBORS!!!!!!!!! besides i have 1 and 1 only email address.you would know and whoever said that needs to rethink there life.--{{ani|491}}[[User:Darkrai breeder|'''Darkrai''']]{{ani|493}}[[User talk:Darkrai breeder|'''breeder''']]{{ani|009}} 00:46, 24 March 2008 (UTC)--{{ani|491}}[[User:Darkrai breeder|'''Darkrai''']]{{ani|493}}[[User talk:Darkrai breeder|'''breeder''']]{{ani|009}} 00:46, 24 March 2008 (UTC)--{{ani|491}}[[User:Darkrai breeder|'''Darkrai''']]{{ani|493}}[[User talk:Darkrai breeder|'''breeder''']]{{ani|009}} 00:46, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
::So you're using the same internet? Under certain situations, that's illegal. And one more thing, is that the only reason? You're Glatra's neighbor? And like I said, PROVE ON YOUTUBE{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 00:54, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
:Someone has anger issues[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|'''C ''']] [[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|'''Is''']] [[User:Darth Cookie Monster/My Story|'''for Cookie''']]
::Ya think?{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 00:58, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
:::I know[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|'''C ''']] [[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|'''Is''']] [[User:Darth Cookie Monster/My Story|'''for Cookie''']]
STOP IT OR IM BLOCKING YOU @#$%&*(s
:You can't block us, you're not an authorative power. Just get it on youtube, or does it exist?{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 01:08, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
::It does not exist. IT IS A LIE. GLATRA IS A LIE[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|'''C ''']] [[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|'''Is''']] [[User:Darth Cookie Monster/My Story|'''for Cookie''']]
:::DARTH COOKIE MONSTER! How would you know!!?!!! Give them a freakin chance!{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 01:17, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
::::The only picture he had was badly photoshopped[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|'''C ''']] [[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|'''Is''']] [[User:Darth Cookie Monster/My Story|'''for Cookie''']]
:::::AGAIN! I said to give him a chance, to get a video on youtube.{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 01:18, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
good someone still belives it
:FINE! I will go vent elsewhere[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|'''C ''']] [[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|'''Is''']] [[User:Darth Cookie Monster/My Story|'''for Cookie''']]
::I said that I will give you a chance, now my patience is cutting short. I want a video soon{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 01:22, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
i dont have a game! but glatra does!--{{ani|491}}[[User:Darkrai breeder|'''Darkrai''']]{{ani|493}}[[User talk:Darkrai breeder|'''breeder''']]{{ani|009}} 02:48, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
:Um, you live right next to him{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 02:56, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
ohhhhh, yeah tommorrow i will try to get glatra. it will take 5 days at the least. just be patient. also get as many people as possible to try.
::Nope, not gonna happen. Only YOU, Glatra, and ME believe that Glatra has a chance of appearing, and I don't have the game either. It's up to Glatra, EVERYTHING is up to Glatra. No pressure{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 03:10, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
:::what are the steps to get this stupid thing? im 99.99999% sure its totally fake, but im the only one here who has an AR (other than this kid i guess) and frankly, im tired of this filling up the recent changes. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 03:56, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
::::I think it's somewhere on my archived talk page. Let me find it{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 03:58, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
<big><big>NO PRESSURE?!THAT HAPPENS TO BE A LOT OF PRESSURE!I'M THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN DO THIS?!CRAP!oh and by the way...<big><big><big>SOMEONE DELETED MY USERPAGE!!!--{{ani|197}}[[User:Glatra|'''gLa''']][[User talk:Glatra|'''TrA''']][[User:Glatra/Riddles|'''☆''']]{{ani|196}} 21:59, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
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USING ACTION REPLAY!
#Breed Uxie with a Beautifly (press L R before it hatches)
#Then breed that with a Gengar
#Then breed that with a Spiritomb
#Then breed that with a Palkia
#Then breed that with a Metagross
#Then breed that with a Heracross
OKAY! THERE IS NO WAY GLATRA CAME BY THIS BY ACCIDENT!
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{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 04:08, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
:well, given the whole "legendaries cant breed" thing, its already proposterous. however, i did find an AR code allowing legendaries to breed. if it works, then im willing to waste my time to MAKE EVERYONE SHUT UP ABOUT THIS STUPID THING! so, give me a few days, and ill get back to you. unless....one of these kids wants to come clean about the whole thing...and maybe just spill the beans that its completely fake. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 04:38, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
::Remember, Mag, pics or it didn't happen. Though I doubt you'd say it's true if it isn't. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]][[Image:Ani155MS.gif|Fire echy]]''' 07:10, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
can some one please read the next disscussion
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Forgive me for intruding but who or what is Glatra? [[User:Agent008]]

== GLATRA ScrEWY glitch==
way # 2 to get glatra
:1. get master code on action replay.
:2. turn on that and run anywhere
:3. go to spear pillar and put the map on Y button
:4. run off the edge of spear pillar
:5. after 3 minutes you will end up on the route outside snowpoint
:6. go north until you see mystery zone changing colors.
:7. You will '''transport''' to iron island cave. this is good. save and prepare to hear a loud screech.
:8. shut off ds and use manaphy egg cheat
:9. get a palkia, spiritomb, and metagross.prepare to say goodbye to them
:10. get the egg and go to spear pillar.
:11. it will hatch and destroy palkia, spiritomb, and metagross. '''remember bring 2 more Pokémon!'''
:12. catch it with any ball. /it has catch rate of a bedoof and starts lvl 10/
SEE is '''THAT''' DIFFICULT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
moves in begining
.dialgas sig. move
. Palkias sig. move
.judgement
. luster plurge
[[Image:glatra.jpg]]
OMG THAT IS BLATANTLY FAKE! Look at the 'choppiness' around spiritomb. even i could do better! [[Image:Ani258MS.gif]][[User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]] Lieks [[Mudkip (Pokémon)|Mudkipz]][[Image:Ani258MS.gif]] 19:10, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
fake? or shity graphics. and i could paint a better one IF I HAD PHOTOSHOP OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
if it were real, you would have provided a photo, not a deliberately faked MS paint image - therefore its fake. [[Image:Ani258MS.gif]][[User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]] Lieks [[Mudkip (Pokémon)|Mudkipz]][[Image:Ani258MS.gif]] 19:17, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
oragami guy, are glitches clean like[[Image:mew.jpg]]or weirdly graphicaised
like [[Image:missingno.jpg]]hm! are they
yes but glitches are not just 'choppy round the edges' combinations of exising sprites [[Image:Ani258MS.gif]][[User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]] Lieks [[Mudkip (Pokémon)|Mudkipz]][[Image:Ani258MS.gif]] 19:48, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
:--{{ani|491}}[[User:Darkrai breeder|'''Darkrai''']]{{ani|493}}[[User talk:Darkrai breeder|'''breeder''']]{{ani|009}} 18:13, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
:HOLD THE LINE. there is NO WAY im going to save my game OUT OF BOUNDS. have i been out of bounds? sure i have, but this just seems like an elaborate plan to RUIN SOMONES GAME. the former method is at least somwhat safe. that being said IM GOING TO ADVISE ANYONE READING THIS TO NOT TRY THE ABOVE METHOD. also, to TTE, i know how it works; Screenshot, or it didnt happen. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]'''{{Ani|081}} 04:31, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
::This sounds more like bullshit than the other one. Do we need to have Strength and move the truck that we encounter by having FireRed or LeafGreen in the bottom slot with their OWN GameShark? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]][[Image:Ani155MS.gif|Fire echy]]''' 05:35, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
:::An alternative is getting a fake one at a much lower price. {{ani|493}}'''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|Optimus35, to be exact...>.>;;;</nowiki>">Optimatum]]</sc>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]{{{1|10:08 25 Mar 2008}}}'''
hey its imposible to save in mystery zone! you go into the iron island cave because you go out of its programing and you '''teleport'''!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:Oy vey.{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 17:48, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
::There isn't a route outside Snowpoint either... [[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']]{{Ani|128}}[[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']] 17:53, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
:: Oh yeah? then how do you get to snowpoint?
--{{ani|491}}[[User:Darkrai breeder|'''Darkrai''']]{{ani|493}}[[User talk:Darkrai breeder|'''breeder''']]{{ani|009}} 17:59, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Acuity Lakefront [[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']]{{Ani|128}}[[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']] 18:00, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
::::Which is a route--{{ani|491}}[[User:Darkrai breeder|'''Darkrai''']]{{ani|493}}[[User talk:Darkrai breeder|'''breeder''']]{{ani|009}} 18:02, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::Do you see the word '''route''' in [[Acuity Lakefront]]...no. It is not a route! [[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']]{{Ani|128}}[[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']] 18:06, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::: i dont see any city or town either and its long enough to be a route!
--{{ani|491}}[[User:Darkrai breeder|'''Darkrai''']]{{ani|493}}[[User talk:Darkrai breeder|'''breeder''']]{{ani|009}} 18:08, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::does someone know how the hell you beat elite 4 in firered??????--{{ani|491}}[[User:Darkrai breeder|'''Darkrai''']]{{ani|493}}[[User talk:Darkrai breeder|'''breeder''']]{{ani|009}} 18:30, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::is anyone on right now?--{{ani|491}}[[User:Darkrai breeder|'''Darkrai''']]{{ani|493}}[[User talk:Darkrai breeder|'''breeder''']]{{ani|009}} 18:33, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::: ACUITY LAKEFRONT.
:::::::: A C '''U''' I '''T''' Y L A K '''E''' F '''R''' '''O''' N T.
:::::::: '''U T E R O'''.
:::::::: REARRANGE THEM. '''UTERO''' BECOMES '''ROUTE'''
:::::::: But i'm not saving OOB [[Image:Ani258MS.gif]][[User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]] Lieks [[Mudkip (Pokémon)|Mudkipz]][[Image:Ani258MS.gif]] 18:34, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::ok....and who the hell are you
::::::::::a user. duh. [[Image:Ani258MS.gif]][[User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]] Lieks [[Mudkip (Pokémon)|Mudkipz]][[Image:Ani258MS.gif]] 18:38, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::I know. but who are you?
::::::::::::Just your average pokemon fan who likes messing with glitches but doesn't want to completely screw his game. I also have an AR, but I don't use it on diamond. Much. I'm also a bit of a geek.[[Image:Ani258MS.gif]][[User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]] Lieks [[Mudkip (Pokémon)|Mudkipz]][[Image:Ani258MS.gif]] 18:43, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::::I suspect that he is a guy, specializing in origami, and is a fan of Pokémon games, as well as being quite knowledgable about the glitches of the games.{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 18:45, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::::::Good sir, you are absolutely correct! Take my "stating the obvious" award <nowiki>{{User:Origamiguy/Prizes/User stating obvious}}</nowiki>. soon. [[Image:Ani258MS.gif]][[User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]] Lieks [[Mudkip (Pokémon)|Mudkipz]][[Image:Ani258MS.gif]] 18:48, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::Duh it's obvious, and No I can't take it, where am I going to put it?{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 18:49, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::Have you done the glitch?{{Ani|493}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|'''C ''']]{{Ani|491}}[[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|''' Is''']]{{Ani|426}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster/My Story|'''for Cookie''']]{{Ani|473}}
:::::::::::::::::before,yes. recently, about to
::::::::::::::::::Good, MAKE A VIDEO< PUT IT ON YOUTUBE{{Ani|493}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|'''C ''']]{{Ani|491}}[[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|''' Is''']]{{Ani|426}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster/My Story|'''for Cookie''']]{{Ani|473}}
:::::::::::::::::::'''IF ANYONE BESIDES POKEMANIAC102,GLATRA,oragami guy ,OR ME EDITS THIS PAGE, I WILL RIP YOUR HEAD OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!'''{{ani|491}}[[User:Darkrai breeder|'''Darkrai''']]{{ani|493}}[[User talk:Darkrai breeder|'''breeder''']]{{ani|009}} 21:53, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::::::C is for cookies just STFU!
::::::::::::::::::::You do not scare me{{Ani|493}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|'''C ''']]{{Ani|491}}[[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|''' Is''']]{{Ani|426}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster/My Story|'''for Cookie''']]{{Ani|473}}
:::::::::::::::::::::STOP EDITING MY PAGE YOU mother F***er
::::::::::::::::::::::NO thanks, I am good{{Ani|493}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|'''C ''']]{{Ani|491}}[[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|''' Is''']]{{Ani|426}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster/My Story|'''for Cookie''']]{{Ani|473}}
:::::::::::::::::::::::I HATE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
::::::::::::::::::::::::Why, cause I don't believe Glatra is real and is just a lie?{{Ani|493}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|'''C ''']]{{Ani|491}}[[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|''' Is''']]{{Ani|426}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster/My Story|'''for Cookie''']]{{Ani|473}}
:::::::::::::::::::::::::(calming down) because you are pissing me off. DO--(calm down darkrai) nevermind
::::::::::::::::::::::::::I am talking calmly. YOu are not. I am stating facts. You are not{{Ani|493}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|'''C ''']]{{Ani|491}}[[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|''' Is''']]{{Ani|426}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster/My Story|'''for Cookie''']]{{Ani|473}}
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::Can we get back to the subject of glatra and stop throwing abuse at each other? [[Image:Ani258MS.gif]][[User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]] Lieks [[Mudkip (Pokémon)|Mudkipz]][[Image:Ani258MS.gif]] 19:08, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
ok but only if you guys stop pissing me off or will.......hmmm.i'll have to come back on that thought.and can someone get cookie blocked.--{{ani|491}}[[User:Darkrai breeder|'''Darkrai''']]{{ani|493}}[[User talk:Darkrai breeder|'''breeder''']]{{ani|009}} 18:53, 28 March 2008 (UTC) and I am stating the facts!
:For what? I edit the main space and don't spread rumors. I fix Vandals or Mistakes that people make. I did nithing wrong other than strongly state my opinion{{Ani|493}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|'''C ''']]{{Ani|491}}[[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|''' Is''']]{{Ani|426}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster/My Story|'''for Cookie''']]{{Ani|473}}
'k --{{ani|491}}[[User:Darkrai breeder|'''Darkrai''']]{{ani|493}}[[User talk:Darkrai breeder|'''breeder''']]{{ani|009}} 03:38, 29 March 2008 (UTC) '''but still you can at least edit this disscusion to another user page so I dont get emailed every 5 minutes'''
:You know, you can turn off the emailing through your preferences. Also, Cookie is much better than you[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|Maniac]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|102]] 03:56, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
::why bother. i already disproved the glitch. Glatra does NOT exsist. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 04:51, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
::::YOu did!!! Then I can go delete that tag on my page[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|'''C ''']] [[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|'''Is''']] [[User:Darth Cookie Monster/My Story|'''for Cookie''']]
Yeah magnadeath want to know what i say about glatra being fake? *sticks up the bird* and have
you even tried? or are you pissing off 6 people for laughs? Chris,Zurel,Rhett,Luckshea,Glatra,
and me all have seen glatra. And this is all chris had to say *double duce*! To you and all
non-belivers. GLATRA EXISTS TO ALL GAMES RELEASED before 7/24/07! so tell us when you got your
game --{{ani|491}}[[User:Darkrai breeder|'''Darkrai''']]{{ani|493}}[[User talk:Darkrai breeder|'''breeder''']]{{ani|009}} 18:22, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
:Proof what you just said. Make a video of you and your friends finding Glatra and put it on YouTube. Then we'll believe you. '''[[User:Haruka uzumaki|うずまき]][[User talk:Haruka uzumaki|ハルカ]]''' 18:27, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
::Exactly. If something strange like this ever happened in my game I would take a picture right away, so... [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Dracofang Gym|'''n-Z''']] 18:30, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
new rule: nobody can edit unless i know who the hell they are!also i will make a EDIT AND GET
BLOCKED rule list--{{ani|491}}[[User:Darkrai breeder|'''Darkrai''']]{{ani|493}}[[User talk:Darkrai breeder|'''breeder''']]{{ani|009}} 18:33, 30 March 2008 (UTC) edit it and die
:... [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Dracofang Gym|'''n-Z''']] 18:34, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
:Hm-hm. So...what should this mean? '''[[User:Haruka uzumaki|うずまき]][[User talk:Haruka uzumaki|ハルカ]]''' 18:37, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
::What is that about?[[User:Darth Cookie Monster]] 16:05, 5 April 2008 (UTC)</big>

== Behavior ==

Please do not go making threats and intimidating other users. Trust me, you do NOT want to be my first block. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 22:05, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
:(calmly) the other users are pissing me off
::So? Your offered proof was a crappy jpg of Spiritomb on a Metagross with a pearl between them. The least you could do is get their png-format, crisp sprites ([[Image:442.png]] and [[Image:376.png]], respectively) and edit it so it's not just Spiritomb on top of Metagross. You also didn't even name Dialga and Palkia's signature moves, despite the fact that you should know their names because that's all the game displays: {{m|Roar of Time}} and {{m|Spacial Rend}}. The fact that they're D and P's signature moves means nothing to the game, since I have a Darkrai with both moves.
::Get a video of yourself or your friend finding Glatra and we'll be more than happy to give it a page. The burden of proof is with the claimant. Most cameras take video, and YouTube is easy to register to. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]][[Image:Ani155MS.gif|Fire echy]]''' 19:46, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
:::All of a sudden, I feel like risking Ozzie's Darkrai and my game. By the way, Brazil might not have WALMARTS with AR, but HELL. Singapore doesn't even have a Walmart! Anyway, off I go to hack the hell out of my game. Ciao. {{ani|493}}'''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|Optimus35, to be exact...>.>;;;</nowiki>">Optimatum]]</sc>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]{{{1|09:20 27 Mar 2008}}}'''

Two-week block. You were warned not to make threats. Harassing others to try to get your way is not civil behavior. Please take these two weeks to learn how to conduct conversation without resorting to harassment. For instance, you could try an anger management class.

Additionally, if you really want to prove this "Glatra" is real, you're best off taking people's advice on how to prove it, not trying to flame the hell out of someone who's trying to help. All it takes is one unaltered video and Glatra might join the ranks of glitch Pokémon such as [[B óË ÁN]]. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 18:51, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

==I Found It==
OMG Darkrai Breeder I found it! Thank you sooo much it's my favorite Pokemon! http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg24/NFLDPKMN/glatrap.png [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 01:59, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
ok. hard to belive. but did you hack? if so, good job. but whered ya see it?
::I did. I bought an action replay just to get this kick ass Pokemon. And I found it at spear pillar, of course. [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 22:37, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
o_O *takes look at backround* why is there '''GRASS''' ?

==what the==
WTFWTFWTFWTFWTFWTFWTF!!! is that real?
:you will find the answer youre looking for on my talk page... -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 04:01, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
==[[User talk:Jioruji Derako|Look at the top of this page.]]==
'''[[User:Pachirisulover12|P]][[User talk:Pachirisulover12|L]][[User:Pachirisulover12/Trade Shop|1]][[User:Pachirisulover12/Discharge Gym|2]]''' 22:55, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

== LOOK ==

Just admit that it is fake and get this all over with!'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 23:12, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

:*thinks* no. im one of those people who wont give up. Glatra does exist. but i need a FRIKIN game! also did you belive glatra before?
:If so why dont you belive it any more. AND i got the first picture from my emails. and any complaints gmail me at
nicklurye@gmail.com ok? good.--[[User:Darkrai breeder|'''Darkrai''']] [[User talk:Darkrai breeder|'''breeder''']] 23:43, 16 April 2008 (UTC) also the email isnt my name. i just made up the name

I never said I believed you, I said to give you a chance, and you failed. Plus, you can't breed legendaries with anything but ditto... UNTIL I SEE THE '''VIDEO''' WITH MY OWN EYES, I DON'T BELIEVE YOU'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 23:48, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
:one off-topic question: Have you ever trusted a bumbling snitch bug like chris? he always says tommorow i will send you the video.
::IT HAS BEEN A FREAKIN MONTH! no offence to other bumbling snitch bugs--[[User:Darkrai breeder|'''Darkrai''']] [[User talk:Darkrai breeder|'''breeder''']] 23:53, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

We don't care about others. WE WANT '''YOU''' TO GET '''THE VIDEO''' '''''NOW''''' '''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 23:58, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
:::did you or did you not remember i ONLY have firered. i lost pearl before i joined bulbapedia! sorry but i cant get a pokemon pearl with a snap of my fingers.if ANYONE has a question gmail me. but if your not careful, my computer can tell me about a virus and block your email.--[[User:Darkrai breeder|'''Darkrai''']] [[User talk:Darkrai breeder|'''breeder''']] 02:26, 17 April 2008 (UTC) now im going on addictinggames.com.cya tomorrow.
::::If you have no proof of Glatra to show us, video or not, then do not say it is real. problem solved[[User:Darth Cookie Monster]] 21:07, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
ok. umm and who is the guy who introduced glatra to GLATRA? me.also you cant say its fake unless i say so. P.S. CrazyBarkswantapiratehat!
:What?[[User:Darth Cookie Monster]] 13:45, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
::Out of curiosity, why can't we say it's fake without you saying so? Everyome has their own opinion. Oh and btw, wasn't this over, like 3 months ago? [[User:Midnight Celtic|Midnight]][[User talk:Midnight Celtic|Celtic]] 22:37, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
:::It was, but this genius has decided to bring it back up[[User:Darth Cookie Monster]] 00:41, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
::::I'll only believe it if i see a video, or a screenshot. '''[[User:Pachirisulover12|PL]][[User talk:Pachirisulover12|12]]''' 00:43, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
:::::Why is the text so small?[[User:Darth Cookie Monster]] 00:45, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
::::::I have no idea, but the same goes for me with the video•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 00:46, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
:::::::I will never believe it[[User:Darth Cookie Monster]] 01:20, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
::::::::Admittedly, I probably could try it, but for one thing, obvious fake, and two, my AR is so out of date, (I think it's v 1.2, or something like that) and I don't feel like updating it sans putting new games because my internet is slow. Dial-up anyone? And I must say, grats to Porygon-Z. That is the best fake I have seen in a very long time. In paint, Was it? [[User:Midnight Celtic|Midnight]][[User talk:Midnight Celtic|Celtic]] 12:52, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

: LOOK, I HAD TO WRITE A REPORT ABOUT A GUY I DONT KNOW ABOUT IN 3 F%$@ING WEEKS. I COULD ONLY GO ON AT 1 MINUTE A DAY. and i have the video, but i dont feel like uploading it. ok.
Glatra exists and i have 2 videos in my inbox and i might stop going on bulbapedia. glatra exists but you guys are jackasses
::THREE WEEKS!! that is plenty of time to do a report. When you get to high school, reports are usually done in two days! And if this is a problem for you...don't take Advanced Placement English where you have about twelve essays a week to do. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 22:58, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
:you dont ''feel'' like uploading it? welcome to the {{tt|bottom of the barrel|you lose.}}. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 23:38, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
::YOu might stop going on bulbapedia!! Why, because no one believes your lies to get attention{{tt|!|once again, you lose. Try again?}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster]] 14:36, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
I TYPE VERY SLOW!!!!!!!!!!!!! i am going on a pikmin wiki because bulbapedia IS FULL OF IDOTS.and pikmin rocks pokemon meh. I just went here to prove a glitch but people are trying
to rip my head of. '''snagretpikmin'''
::Yaaaaaa good luck with that. '''[[User:Pachirisulover12|PL]][[User talk:Pachirisulover12|12]]''' 21:59, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
what do you mean... hold on. thats better.
can SOMEONE thats been a admin for a while write down a list of reasons to get blocked on my page. and im talking about pokemaniac ect. thanks

# I'M NOT AN ADMIN!
# If this is still about Glatra, I'm giving you till the end of this month to show up with a video.
•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 23:04, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

:Wait a minute, Darkrai breeder. Who do you want blocked? Secondly, Pokemaniac, you don't exactly have the authority to tell him how long he has. If he can provide proof, we'll go along with Glatra. Period. --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 23:06, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
::I know, I just want to scare him to go faster... I'll go along with it if he has proof of course as well•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 23:08, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
:::I can vouch for Glatra's existence. But it WILL NOT be on 'pedia. Why? FOR PEEKS SAKE YOU NEED AR! '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Optimatum</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]'''26 Apr 2008
::::Sigh. There's no god damn glatra. I'm not even spelling it with a {{wp|capital G}} anymore because it's NOT a Pokemon! Darkrai Breeder just want s attention, and to get every one going, and he's doing it! Don't you think that if it really was in the game that MANY people would have found it by now? Don't you think the people who made AR would have included a code? THERE IS NO GLATRA. THERE WILL BE NO VIDEO. THAT'S IT. SUCK IT UP. [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 03:06, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
:::::Very well done Porygon-Z, you have laid out the entire situation. Now it's time to leave this behind and forget its existence•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 03:09, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
:GLATRA EXISTS! YOU HACK YOUR GAME TO GET IT! TRUST ME! BUT BECAUSE IT IS A HACK, DB GO TO HELL!!'''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Optimatum</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]'''26 Apr 2008
::hes right, i did find it after all. check my talk page! -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 03:17, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
:::Of my previous comment, I mean not only Porygon-Z but also Magnedeth•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 03:19, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
it is a glitch.not a hack
:HACK! HACK! HACK! '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Optimatum</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]'''26 Apr 2008
::Wait, I don't understand this, does Glatra exist? If it does, what is it?•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 03:43, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
:::the steps to get glatra include breeding Uxie with Beutifly. THIS IS NOT POSSIBLE AT ALL. NOT EVEN WITH AN ACTION REPLAY. end of story. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 04:02, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
:::: have you ever gotten a bad egg?
::::: and i dont '''WANT OR NEED''' atention.
Fine, I'll give u at'''t'''ention (That's what you get for spelling mistakes!)--[[User:Kuki|Kuki (w/ a Broken Diamond)]] 16:48, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Look people. I hate to seem like a moody little [insert word here], but get over it. Glatra is not real, it's obvious too the people here who actually have common sense. :\ No one hate me for pointing that out please, but the whole Glatra thing is getting annoying. Darkrai Breeder, Glatra is something you made up, get over it and stop trying too prove it's real when it obviously isn't. If it was, people who'd hack into Diamond/Pearl/Whatever game would have found it when they found Pokémon like Arceus and Shaymin. [[User:Takoto|Takoto]] 17:09, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
:That's what people are trying to say. (although, actually there was a user named Glatra who made Glatra up...) but anyway. There is seriously no precedent, and we have gone around for forever, but some people don't know when to give up. [[User:Midnight Celtic|Midnight]][[User talk:Midnight Celtic|Celtic]] 13:26, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
::Why don't people just ignore the people who say Glatra is real? I mean, it's totally pointless for the discussion too go on and on, it'll never end |: [[User:Takoto|Takoto]] 13:51, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
::: GLATRA(the user)wont be on bulbapedia due to a sprained ankle. AND HE DIDNT MAKE GLATRA UP HE ACUALLY SAW IT A WHILE BACK. and i told him about the glitch. --{{SUBST:User:Darkrai breeder/Signature}} 17:54, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
:+smiles+ hold on. why are there articels about things that you need action replay/gameshark on this website (ex. mystery zone, bad egg) might as well give up on glatra not existing. AND i could mail you a non-hacked pearl version where you can see it exists. and i will throw in 12 deoxys if it exists. if the game was hacked, it wont allow trade so no deoxys. not to mention that hack engines dont work on my cpu. {{unsigned|Darkrai breeder}}
::you expect me to believe that you found Glatra, when you dont even know how to use HTML? yea right. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 18:11, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
WTF does html have to do with glatra from what you think--{{SUBST:User:Darkrai breeder/Signature}} 18:16, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
and i saw it with my own 2 eyes *count on fingers* exacly 4 times!
:I'm pretty sure Magnedeth is saying that you're to dumb to find it. Why don't you mail it to me?•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 18:26, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
:Yah, when you saw the photoshopped image......[[User:Darth Cookie Monster]] 18:27, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
::Oh! that was so obviously fake•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 18:29, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
:::That is my point...............[[User:Darth Cookie Monster]] 18:30, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
:::: I will gladly get anyone on bulbapedia a glatra. and why is there a link to neopets on the mew page?
:::::Fine, get me one.[[User:Darth Cookie Monster]] 18:38, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
::::::ok and i will have to ask why the heck was this disscution deleted. and anyone else want glatra?
:::::::This discussion was removed to prove the point that glatra doesn't exist. Now I don't want it anymore and I don't believe it anymore nor will I ever.•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 18:42, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
::::::::Don't delete it, it is an example about how foolish people can be to get attention[[User:Darth Cookie Monster]] 18:45, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

:I'm Gonna Say this ONE LAST TIME!
:Sigh. There's no god damn glatra. I'm not even spelling it with a {{wp|capital G}} anymore because it's NOT a Pokemon! Darkrai Breeder just want s attention, and to get every one going, and he's doing it! Don't you think that if it really was in the game that MANY people would have found it by now? Don't you think the people who made AR would have included a code? THERE IS NO GLATRA. THERE WILL BE NO VIDEO. THAT'S IT. SUCK IT UP. STOP GIVING HIM ATTENTION! [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 18:46, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
::sigh. 27 pages with the word glatra on it•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 18:47, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
:::Join [[:User_talk:Origamiguy/GNBA|GNBA]] today! '''[[:User:Origamiguy|折り紙ガイ]] - [[:User_talk:Origamiguy|離す]][[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|貢献]]''' 18:52, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
::::I did! Darkrai Breeder, you should join too!•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 18:53, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
::::: [http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=PkTMbyxzTzc&fmt=18 It's over]. [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 22:39, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Nice one, Z!--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 22:45, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
ITS CHEATING TOU B@$TURD!!! Also would i say glatra doesnt exist IF IVE TRYED TO PROVE IT FOR MONTHS!!! EVERYONE ON THIS DISSCUTION IS A B@#$&%^*!!!!!!--[[User:Darkrai breeder|DaRkRaIbReEdEr LiEkS rOtOm]] 23:01, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
:I don't appreciate being called a B, at, number, dollar, and, percent, carrot, asterisk, exclamation points!!! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 23:08, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
'''SCREW YOU!'''--[[User:Darkrai breeder|DaRkRaIbReEdEr LiEkS rOtOm]] 23:11, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
PORGON-Z!!! DELETE THE VIDEO OR I WILL EMAIL THE GUY WHO STARTED BULBAPEDIA TO DISTROY YOUR ACOUNT!!! also, i hate rap.
:He wouldn't be deleted for something that isn't on this site... it is on youtube. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 23:15, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
:well, thats highly uncalled for. if anything, i just gave PGZ's video a 5 star. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 23:16, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
i finished a artical and 10 videos on another website
:I gave it one too! Plus, the creator (you should know by now who he is) wouldn't do that.•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 23:19, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
::There is nothing wrong with the video. There is no hate or anything. And I won't get banned from here for it. However, you might get banned for threatening Origami Guy on his talk page. [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 23:20, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
I dont care anymore. i could leave when the artical is done. then all will see it exists
:What is with you and spelling???? And, you can get blocked for creating the article without proof too many times•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 23:24, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
:::: you now what? i give up on proving it. you guys wont belive it.
:::::That first phrase doesn't make sense. And it doesn't exist.•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 23:28, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
Six-month block. You've been warned multiple times against harassing others, and yet you continue to harass everyone who even hints about this so-called "Glatra" being fake. Making threats against another user's account is crossing the line big-time. You'll have one last chance upon this block expiring, and if you can't clean up your behavior, you'll find yourself permanently blocked. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 23:35, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
:<big><big><big><big>LOL</big></big></big></big> '''[[:User:Origamiguy|折り紙ガイ]] - [[:User_talk:Origamiguy|離す]][[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|貢献]]''' 14:35, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

==Okay==
*{{u|Darkrai breeder}} - Please ''shut up''. You have virtually no control when push comes to shove, and {{u|Zhen Lin}} would not by any means delete {{u|Porygon-Z}}'s account for proving that Glatra is crap.

*{{u|Pokemaniac102}} - Stop goading him on. Just leave him be and he'll simmer down.

*Everybody else - This has gone on far too long. Leave Darkrai breeder alone (at least regarding Glatra) until he can provide reasonable proof of Glatra's existence. --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 23:33, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
:he's been blocked•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 23:38, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
:And I didn't want him to simmer down•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 23:39, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
::Drop it. [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 23:48, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

== [[User talk:Jioruji Derako|Signature Policy]] ==
I've noticed you're still depending on a now-deleted signature template for a signature. As per the new signature policy, which I've linked you to in this section's heading, signature templates are not allowed. You're going to have to put in hard coding if you want a custom signature. I've went ahead and replaced the busted templates in the above heading with your previous signature with the images removed (images in signatures are not allowed under the new policy). I'd recommend using what I've inserted as your signature. Thank you for listening. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 03:32, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

ok....uh....thanks? and what does my new sig look like now? darkrai breeder sig.
:EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW IS [[User talk:Jioruji Derako|HERE]]--'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 20:57, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

at the top of the page, go to "my preferences". then go to "nickname" and copy/paste the following into that spot. (edit the section to get the code)
-- [[User:Darkrai breeder|'''Darkrai''']] [[User talk:Darkrai breeder|'''breeder''']]
then you can sign your comments with the tildes and it will work. (btw, i HIGHLY suggest a darker color) -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 02:52, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

== Talk Page Comments ==

Please don't erase talk page comments for no reason, not even those on your own user talk page. Trust me, you do NOT want to end up like {{u|Big Johnno}}, who got into an edit war with [[User:Fabu-Vinny|a sysop]] over comments the former erased from his talk page and was trying to keep erased. That user ended up blocked and had every erased comment restored. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 21:32, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
:can you have users stop messing up my page?--DaRkRaIbReEdEr LiEkS rOtOm 18:52, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
::Well, bastardly little guy. When you come back 26 days after my PSLE, you might want to read this: REASON FOR INCLUDING MYSTERY ZONE AND BAD EGG: THEY AR PROGRAMMED INTO THE GAME'S DATA. >=( I don't like your attitude one bit. We (The people who hate Glatra) are 365 times more expirienced than you in wiki slang. Glatra is just a result of someone selling you a bloody GAKE game. Think of PGZ's Emerald (or mine). Glatra does not exist. End of story. '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Optimatum</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''09:26 4 May 2008'''''
We're not messing it up, you're just too afraid of the truth! You don't want to be scolded for the various misbehaviors on the eloquent establisment!--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 18:55, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

==Stay Cool Daddio!==
Hi Darkrai,I've read your talk page and you're worst than I am when I'm angry.Here's some advice if the editing starts to get hot.If editing is starting to stress you out, leave Bulbapedia for a while and do something else until you've cooled off then come back on and try to reason with the person who is annoying you. [[User:Agent008]];07/05/2008,00:04.
:He doesn't really have a choice about leaving for a while. He's been blocked. :D --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 23:08, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
::For how long,by whom and for what reason may I ask. [[User:Agent008]]
:::Six months, ShiningPikablu252, and for threatening Origamiguy. Look four sections above you. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Talk))]] 00:01, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
::::Okay thanks.6 months wow its' gonna long be a long time before he shows up around here again [[User:Agent008]]
:::::So my only question is, who invented glatra?
::::::The Darkrai Breeder. The {{u|Glatra}}. And, sadly, Bulbapedia Archives. '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''13:36 3 Jun 2008'''''
:::::::Makes perfect sense.[[User:Agent008]]

Hey uhm, how long until his ban is over? :\ Just wondering [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 17:15, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
i dont know--[[User:Xam430|Xam430]] 18:01, 13 October 2008 (UTC) Im a newbie--[[User:Xam430|Xam430]] 18:02, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
:Umm...why is this so big? Is it just my CPU or what? [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 18:10, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
::There was a wayward <nowiki></nowiki> tag making the text large.

::Anyway, the six months ends on the 27th of this month. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 20:08, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
==darkrai breeder==
put your sig here if you think darkrai breeder should stop talking about glatra --Xam430 22:41, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

please note Im not trying to offend him but I just want him to stop--[[User:Xam430|Xam430]] 23:03, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

[[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:Darkrai_breeder#L8ter_guys|ahem]]. '''[[:User:Origamiguy|Lord]] of [[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Ori]][[Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|gami]]''' 11:51, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

User talk:Darkrai breeder/Archive 1

2008-10-15T11:51:51Z

Origamiguy: /* darkrai breeder */

==L8ter guys==
Bye, im leaving bulbapedia. but dont delete anything!--[[User:Darkrai breeder|DaRkRaIbReEdEr LiEkS rOtOm]] 23:28, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
:But if you're leaving, you're never gonna come back so what's the point of keeping it? I'll delete it all!!!! •'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 23:30, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

== test==
--[[User:Darkrai breeder|DaRkRaIbReEdEr [[Image:rotom.jpg]]LiEkS rOtOm]] 19:02, 27 April 2008 (UTC) just a test

==GRRRRRRR!!!! HOW!!!!==
I WAS HACKED BY...... CHRIS!!!!! MY FELLOW CAMPER!!!! AND HE PHOTOSHOPPED THE PICS!!!!
I WILL HAVE TO WORK ALONE!!!!!!! AND I NEED A GAME!!!!!!!!!! he knew my OLD PASSWORD WAS SOGEL
*breaths angrily* later guys

==SMASH==
This user has had his head smashed against the wall

==pickup truck glitch==
I have 1 question. Is it possible to get mew from it? please anwser.
:No. Never ever has been. It's not a glitch either. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:00, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
:what is it then? i saw someone catch mew that way. but i think it was a hack.it did seem hard
to belive --{{ani|491}}[[User:Darkrai breeder|'''Darkrai''']]{{ani|493}}[[User talk:Darkrai breeder|'''breeder''']]{{ani|009}} 02:39, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
[--{{ani|491}}[[User:Darkrai breeder|'''Darkrai''']]{{ani|493}}[[User talk:Darkrai breeder|'''breeder''']]{{ani|009}} 02:52, 14 April 2008 (UTC) almost hacked up his lungs]

damit didnt work. mabye i should try again. *opens new window and checks glatra pic. emails* any questions email me --{{ani|491}}[[User:Darkrai breeder|'''Darkrai''']]{{ani|493}}[[User talk:Darkrai breeder|'''breeder''']]{{ani|009}} 22:50, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

==Welcome==
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Thank you, and have a good time editing here! [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 00:11, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

== HELP! ==

dude, Go to pokemaniac's talk page and argue.--{{ani|197}}[[User:Glatra|'''gLa''']][[User talk:Glatra|'''TrA''']][[User:Glatra/Riddles|'''☆''']]{{ani|196}} 03:21, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

:Why are you gathering support for an arguement that has no credence? [[Image:Ani197MS.gif]][[User:Midnight Celtic|Midnight Celtic]][[Image:Ani148MS.gif]] 03:26, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

::this is My friend. The guy who gave me the picture. Right--{{ani|197}}[[User:Glatra|'''gLa''']][[User talk:Glatra|'''TrA''']][[User:Glatra/Riddles|'''☆''']]{{ani|196}} 03:59, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

== Do you perhaps... ==

Breed Darkrai? XD (One time comment.) [[User:Tesh|'''TESHIGIGAS''']] [[Image:486MS.png|RAWR!!]] 23:34, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

um... When i had my pokemon pearl i used the cloning glitch--{{ani|491}}[[User:Darkrai breeder|'''Darkrai''']]{{ani|493}}[[User talk:Darkrai breeder|'''breeder''']]{{ani|009}} 23:38, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

== technical difficultys==

we will be facing some technical difficultys so go sit on your ass at a friends house and play
brawl. or pikmin 2, or kingdom hearts 2. '''AND STOP EDITING MY PAGE OR FALL TO MY ARMY'''
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i'd make more but im lazy. AND MY NAME IS'NT NICK LURYE
I am now going on bulbabreak so i can beat brawl.

== Glatra ==

Youtube{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 19:59, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

== Hmm ==
I have received from a VERY RELIABLE source that you and the user Glatra are the same person. Any words?{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 22:04, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
:NO F***ING WAY!WE ARE NEIGHBORS!!!!!!!!! besides i have 1 and 1 only email address.you would know and whoever said that needs to rethink there life.--{{ani|491}}[[User:Darkrai breeder|'''Darkrai''']]{{ani|493}}[[User talk:Darkrai breeder|'''breeder''']]{{ani|009}} 00:46, 24 March 2008 (UTC)--{{ani|491}}[[User:Darkrai breeder|'''Darkrai''']]{{ani|493}}[[User talk:Darkrai breeder|'''breeder''']]{{ani|009}} 00:46, 24 March 2008 (UTC)--{{ani|491}}[[User:Darkrai breeder|'''Darkrai''']]{{ani|493}}[[User talk:Darkrai breeder|'''breeder''']]{{ani|009}} 00:46, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
::So you're using the same internet? Under certain situations, that's illegal. And one more thing, is that the only reason? You're Glatra's neighbor? And like I said, PROVE ON YOUTUBE{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 00:54, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
:Someone has anger issues[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|'''C ''']] [[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|'''Is''']] [[User:Darth Cookie Monster/My Story|'''for Cookie''']]
::Ya think?{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 00:58, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
:::I know[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|'''C ''']] [[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|'''Is''']] [[User:Darth Cookie Monster/My Story|'''for Cookie''']]
STOP IT OR IM BLOCKING YOU @#$%&*(s
:You can't block us, you're not an authorative power. Just get it on youtube, or does it exist?{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 01:08, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
::It does not exist. IT IS A LIE. GLATRA IS A LIE[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|'''C ''']] [[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|'''Is''']] [[User:Darth Cookie Monster/My Story|'''for Cookie''']]
:::DARTH COOKIE MONSTER! How would you know!!?!!! Give them a freakin chance!{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 01:17, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
::::The only picture he had was badly photoshopped[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|'''C ''']] [[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|'''Is''']] [[User:Darth Cookie Monster/My Story|'''for Cookie''']]
:::::AGAIN! I said to give him a chance, to get a video on youtube.{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 01:18, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
good someone still belives it
:FINE! I will go vent elsewhere[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|'''C ''']] [[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|'''Is''']] [[User:Darth Cookie Monster/My Story|'''for Cookie''']]
::I said that I will give you a chance, now my patience is cutting short. I want a video soon{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 01:22, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
i dont have a game! but glatra does!--{{ani|491}}[[User:Darkrai breeder|'''Darkrai''']]{{ani|493}}[[User talk:Darkrai breeder|'''breeder''']]{{ani|009}} 02:48, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
:Um, you live right next to him{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 02:56, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
ohhhhh, yeah tommorrow i will try to get glatra. it will take 5 days at the least. just be patient. also get as many people as possible to try.
::Nope, not gonna happen. Only YOU, Glatra, and ME believe that Glatra has a chance of appearing, and I don't have the game either. It's up to Glatra, EVERYTHING is up to Glatra. No pressure{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 03:10, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
:::what are the steps to get this stupid thing? im 99.99999% sure its totally fake, but im the only one here who has an AR (other than this kid i guess) and frankly, im tired of this filling up the recent changes. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 03:56, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
::::I think it's somewhere on my archived talk page. Let me find it{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 03:58, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
<big><big>NO PRESSURE?!THAT HAPPENS TO BE A LOT OF PRESSURE!I'M THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN DO THIS?!CRAP!oh and by the way...<big><big><big>SOMEONE DELETED MY USERPAGE!!!--{{ani|197}}[[User:Glatra|'''gLa''']][[User talk:Glatra|'''TrA''']][[User:Glatra/Riddles|'''☆''']]{{ani|196}} 21:59, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
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USING ACTION REPLAY!
#Breed Uxie with a Beautifly (press L R before it hatches)
#Then breed that with a Gengar
#Then breed that with a Spiritomb
#Then breed that with a Palkia
#Then breed that with a Metagross
#Then breed that with a Heracross
OKAY! THERE IS NO WAY GLATRA CAME BY THIS BY ACCIDENT!
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{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 04:08, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
:well, given the whole "legendaries cant breed" thing, its already proposterous. however, i did find an AR code allowing legendaries to breed. if it works, then im willing to waste my time to MAKE EVERYONE SHUT UP ABOUT THIS STUPID THING! so, give me a few days, and ill get back to you. unless....one of these kids wants to come clean about the whole thing...and maybe just spill the beans that its completely fake. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 04:38, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
::Remember, Mag, pics or it didn't happen. Though I doubt you'd say it's true if it isn't. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]][[Image:Ani155MS.gif|Fire echy]]''' 07:10, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
can some one please read the next disscussion
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Forgive me for intruding but who or what is Glatra? [[User:Agent008]]

== GLATRA ScrEWY glitch==
way # 2 to get glatra
:1. get master code on action replay.
:2. turn on that and run anywhere
:3. go to spear pillar and put the map on Y button
:4. run off the edge of spear pillar
:5. after 3 minutes you will end up on the route outside snowpoint
:6. go north until you see mystery zone changing colors.
:7. You will '''transport''' to iron island cave. this is good. save and prepare to hear a loud screech.
:8. shut off ds and use manaphy egg cheat
:9. get a palkia, spiritomb, and metagross.prepare to say goodbye to them
:10. get the egg and go to spear pillar.
:11. it will hatch and destroy palkia, spiritomb, and metagross. '''remember bring 2 more Pokémon!'''
:12. catch it with any ball. /it has catch rate of a bedoof and starts lvl 10/
SEE is '''THAT''' DIFFICULT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
moves in begining
.dialgas sig. move
. Palkias sig. move
.judgement
. luster plurge
[[Image:glatra.jpg]]
OMG THAT IS BLATANTLY FAKE! Look at the 'choppiness' around spiritomb. even i could do better! [[Image:Ani258MS.gif]][[User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]] Lieks [[Mudkip (Pokémon)|Mudkipz]][[Image:Ani258MS.gif]] 19:10, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
fake? or shity graphics. and i could paint a better one IF I HAD PHOTOSHOP OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
if it were real, you would have provided a photo, not a deliberately faked MS paint image - therefore its fake. [[Image:Ani258MS.gif]][[User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]] Lieks [[Mudkip (Pokémon)|Mudkipz]][[Image:Ani258MS.gif]] 19:17, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
oragami guy, are glitches clean like[[Image:mew.jpg]]or weirdly graphicaised
like [[Image:missingno.jpg]]hm! are they
yes but glitches are not just 'choppy round the edges' combinations of exising sprites [[Image:Ani258MS.gif]][[User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]] Lieks [[Mudkip (Pokémon)|Mudkipz]][[Image:Ani258MS.gif]] 19:48, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
:--{{ani|491}}[[User:Darkrai breeder|'''Darkrai''']]{{ani|493}}[[User talk:Darkrai breeder|'''breeder''']]{{ani|009}} 18:13, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
:HOLD THE LINE. there is NO WAY im going to save my game OUT OF BOUNDS. have i been out of bounds? sure i have, but this just seems like an elaborate plan to RUIN SOMONES GAME. the former method is at least somwhat safe. that being said IM GOING TO ADVISE ANYONE READING THIS TO NOT TRY THE ABOVE METHOD. also, to TTE, i know how it works; Screenshot, or it didnt happen. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]'''{{Ani|081}} 04:31, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
::This sounds more like bullshit than the other one. Do we need to have Strength and move the truck that we encounter by having FireRed or LeafGreen in the bottom slot with their OWN GameShark? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]][[Image:Ani155MS.gif|Fire echy]]''' 05:35, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
:::An alternative is getting a fake one at a much lower price. {{ani|493}}'''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|Optimus35, to be exact...>.>;;;</nowiki>">Optimatum]]</sc>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]{{{1|10:08 25 Mar 2008}}}'''
hey its imposible to save in mystery zone! you go into the iron island cave because you go out of its programing and you '''teleport'''!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:Oy vey.{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 17:48, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
::There isn't a route outside Snowpoint either... [[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']]{{Ani|128}}[[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']] 17:53, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
:: Oh yeah? then how do you get to snowpoint?
--{{ani|491}}[[User:Darkrai breeder|'''Darkrai''']]{{ani|493}}[[User talk:Darkrai breeder|'''breeder''']]{{ani|009}} 17:59, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Acuity Lakefront [[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']]{{Ani|128}}[[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']] 18:00, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
::::Which is a route--{{ani|491}}[[User:Darkrai breeder|'''Darkrai''']]{{ani|493}}[[User talk:Darkrai breeder|'''breeder''']]{{ani|009}} 18:02, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::Do you see the word '''route''' in [[Acuity Lakefront]]...no. It is not a route! [[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']]{{Ani|128}}[[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']] 18:06, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::: i dont see any city or town either and its long enough to be a route!
--{{ani|491}}[[User:Darkrai breeder|'''Darkrai''']]{{ani|493}}[[User talk:Darkrai breeder|'''breeder''']]{{ani|009}} 18:08, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::does someone know how the hell you beat elite 4 in firered??????--{{ani|491}}[[User:Darkrai breeder|'''Darkrai''']]{{ani|493}}[[User talk:Darkrai breeder|'''breeder''']]{{ani|009}} 18:30, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::is anyone on right now?--{{ani|491}}[[User:Darkrai breeder|'''Darkrai''']]{{ani|493}}[[User talk:Darkrai breeder|'''breeder''']]{{ani|009}} 18:33, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::: ACUITY LAKEFRONT.
:::::::: A C '''U''' I '''T''' Y L A K '''E''' F '''R''' '''O''' N T.
:::::::: '''U T E R O'''.
:::::::: REARRANGE THEM. '''UTERO''' BECOMES '''ROUTE'''
:::::::: But i'm not saving OOB [[Image:Ani258MS.gif]][[User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]] Lieks [[Mudkip (Pokémon)|Mudkipz]][[Image:Ani258MS.gif]] 18:34, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::ok....and who the hell are you
::::::::::a user. duh. [[Image:Ani258MS.gif]][[User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]] Lieks [[Mudkip (Pokémon)|Mudkipz]][[Image:Ani258MS.gif]] 18:38, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::I know. but who are you?
::::::::::::Just your average pokemon fan who likes messing with glitches but doesn't want to completely screw his game. I also have an AR, but I don't use it on diamond. Much. I'm also a bit of a geek.[[Image:Ani258MS.gif]][[User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]] Lieks [[Mudkip (Pokémon)|Mudkipz]][[Image:Ani258MS.gif]] 18:43, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::::I suspect that he is a guy, specializing in origami, and is a fan of Pokémon games, as well as being quite knowledgable about the glitches of the games.{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 18:45, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::::::Good sir, you are absolutely correct! Take my "stating the obvious" award <nowiki>{{User:Origamiguy/Prizes/User stating obvious}}</nowiki>. soon. [[Image:Ani258MS.gif]][[User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]] Lieks [[Mudkip (Pokémon)|Mudkipz]][[Image:Ani258MS.gif]] 18:48, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::Duh it's obvious, and No I can't take it, where am I going to put it?{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 18:49, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::Have you done the glitch?{{Ani|493}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|'''C ''']]{{Ani|491}}[[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|''' Is''']]{{Ani|426}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster/My Story|'''for Cookie''']]{{Ani|473}}
:::::::::::::::::before,yes. recently, about to
::::::::::::::::::Good, MAKE A VIDEO< PUT IT ON YOUTUBE{{Ani|493}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|'''C ''']]{{Ani|491}}[[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|''' Is''']]{{Ani|426}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster/My Story|'''for Cookie''']]{{Ani|473}}
:::::::::::::::::::'''IF ANYONE BESIDES POKEMANIAC102,GLATRA,oragami guy ,OR ME EDITS THIS PAGE, I WILL RIP YOUR HEAD OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!'''{{ani|491}}[[User:Darkrai breeder|'''Darkrai''']]{{ani|493}}[[User talk:Darkrai breeder|'''breeder''']]{{ani|009}} 21:53, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::::::C is for cookies just STFU!
::::::::::::::::::::You do not scare me{{Ani|493}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|'''C ''']]{{Ani|491}}[[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|''' Is''']]{{Ani|426}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster/My Story|'''for Cookie''']]{{Ani|473}}
:::::::::::::::::::::STOP EDITING MY PAGE YOU mother F***er
::::::::::::::::::::::NO thanks, I am good{{Ani|493}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|'''C ''']]{{Ani|491}}[[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|''' Is''']]{{Ani|426}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster/My Story|'''for Cookie''']]{{Ani|473}}
:::::::::::::::::::::::I HATE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
::::::::::::::::::::::::Why, cause I don't believe Glatra is real and is just a lie?{{Ani|493}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|'''C ''']]{{Ani|491}}[[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|''' Is''']]{{Ani|426}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster/My Story|'''for Cookie''']]{{Ani|473}}
:::::::::::::::::::::::::(calming down) because you are pissing me off. DO--(calm down darkrai) nevermind
::::::::::::::::::::::::::I am talking calmly. YOu are not. I am stating facts. You are not{{Ani|493}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|'''C ''']]{{Ani|491}}[[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|''' Is''']]{{Ani|426}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster/My Story|'''for Cookie''']]{{Ani|473}}
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::Can we get back to the subject of glatra and stop throwing abuse at each other? [[Image:Ani258MS.gif]][[User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]] Lieks [[Mudkip (Pokémon)|Mudkipz]][[Image:Ani258MS.gif]] 19:08, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
ok but only if you guys stop pissing me off or will.......hmmm.i'll have to come back on that thought.and can someone get cookie blocked.--{{ani|491}}[[User:Darkrai breeder|'''Darkrai''']]{{ani|493}}[[User talk:Darkrai breeder|'''breeder''']]{{ani|009}} 18:53, 28 March 2008 (UTC) and I am stating the facts!
:For what? I edit the main space and don't spread rumors. I fix Vandals or Mistakes that people make. I did nithing wrong other than strongly state my opinion{{Ani|493}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|'''C ''']]{{Ani|491}}[[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|''' Is''']]{{Ani|426}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster/My Story|'''for Cookie''']]{{Ani|473}}
'k --{{ani|491}}[[User:Darkrai breeder|'''Darkrai''']]{{ani|493}}[[User talk:Darkrai breeder|'''breeder''']]{{ani|009}} 03:38, 29 March 2008 (UTC) '''but still you can at least edit this disscusion to another user page so I dont get emailed every 5 minutes'''
:You know, you can turn off the emailing through your preferences. Also, Cookie is much better than you[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|Maniac]][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|102]] 03:56, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
::why bother. i already disproved the glitch. Glatra does NOT exsist. '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 04:51, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
::::YOu did!!! Then I can go delete that tag on my page[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|'''C ''']] [[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|'''Is''']] [[User:Darth Cookie Monster/My Story|'''for Cookie''']]
Yeah magnadeath want to know what i say about glatra being fake? *sticks up the bird* and have
you even tried? or are you pissing off 6 people for laughs? Chris,Zurel,Rhett,Luckshea,Glatra,
and me all have seen glatra. And this is all chris had to say *double duce*! To you and all
non-belivers. GLATRA EXISTS TO ALL GAMES RELEASED before 7/24/07! so tell us when you got your
game --{{ani|491}}[[User:Darkrai breeder|'''Darkrai''']]{{ani|493}}[[User talk:Darkrai breeder|'''breeder''']]{{ani|009}} 18:22, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
:Proof what you just said. Make a video of you and your friends finding Glatra and put it on YouTube. Then we'll believe you. '''[[User:Haruka uzumaki|うずまき]][[User talk:Haruka uzumaki|ハルカ]]''' 18:27, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
::Exactly. If something strange like this ever happened in my game I would take a picture right away, so... [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Dracofang Gym|'''n-Z''']] 18:30, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
new rule: nobody can edit unless i know who the hell they are!also i will make a EDIT AND GET
BLOCKED rule list--{{ani|491}}[[User:Darkrai breeder|'''Darkrai''']]{{ani|493}}[[User talk:Darkrai breeder|'''breeder''']]{{ani|009}} 18:33, 30 March 2008 (UTC) edit it and die
:... [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Dracofang Gym|'''n-Z''']] 18:34, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
:Hm-hm. So...what should this mean? '''[[User:Haruka uzumaki|うずまき]][[User talk:Haruka uzumaki|ハルカ]]''' 18:37, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
::What is that about?[[User:Darth Cookie Monster]] 16:05, 5 April 2008 (UTC)</big>

== Behavior ==

Please do not go making threats and intimidating other users. Trust me, you do NOT want to be my first block. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 22:05, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
:(calmly) the other users are pissing me off
::So? Your offered proof was a crappy jpg of Spiritomb on a Metagross with a pearl between them. The least you could do is get their png-format, crisp sprites ([[Image:442.png]] and [[Image:376.png]], respectively) and edit it so it's not just Spiritomb on top of Metagross. You also didn't even name Dialga and Palkia's signature moves, despite the fact that you should know their names because that's all the game displays: {{m|Roar of Time}} and {{m|Spacial Rend}}. The fact that they're D and P's signature moves means nothing to the game, since I have a Darkrai with both moves.
::Get a video of yourself or your friend finding Glatra and we'll be more than happy to give it a page. The burden of proof is with the claimant. Most cameras take video, and YouTube is easy to register to. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]][[Image:Ani155MS.gif|Fire echy]]''' 19:46, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
:::All of a sudden, I feel like risking Ozzie's Darkrai and my game. By the way, Brazil might not have WALMARTS with AR, but HELL. Singapore doesn't even have a Walmart! Anyway, off I go to hack the hell out of my game. Ciao. {{ani|493}}'''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|Optimus35, to be exact...>.>;;;</nowiki>">Optimatum]]</sc>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]{{{1|09:20 27 Mar 2008}}}'''

Two-week block. You were warned not to make threats. Harassing others to try to get your way is not civil behavior. Please take these two weeks to learn how to conduct conversation without resorting to harassment. For instance, you could try an anger management class.

Additionally, if you really want to prove this "Glatra" is real, you're best off taking people's advice on how to prove it, not trying to flame the hell out of someone who's trying to help. All it takes is one unaltered video and Glatra might join the ranks of glitch Pokémon such as [[B óË ÁN]]. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 18:51, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

==I Found It==
OMG Darkrai Breeder I found it! Thank you sooo much it's my favorite Pokemon! http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg24/NFLDPKMN/glatrap.png [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 01:59, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
ok. hard to belive. but did you hack? if so, good job. but whered ya see it?
::I did. I bought an action replay just to get this kick ass Pokemon. And I found it at spear pillar, of course. [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 22:37, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
o_O *takes look at backround* why is there '''GRASS''' ?

==what the==
WTFWTFWTFWTFWTFWTFWTF!!! is that real?
:you will find the answer youre looking for on my talk page... -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 04:01, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
==[[User talk:Jioruji Derako|Look at the top of this page.]]==
'''[[User:Pachirisulover12|P]][[User talk:Pachirisulover12|L]][[User:Pachirisulover12/Trade Shop|1]][[User:Pachirisulover12/Discharge Gym|2]]''' 22:55, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

== LOOK ==

Just admit that it is fake and get this all over with!'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 23:12, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

:*thinks* no. im one of those people who wont give up. Glatra does exist. but i need a FRIKIN game! also did you belive glatra before?
:If so why dont you belive it any more. AND i got the first picture from my emails. and any complaints gmail me at
nicklurye@gmail.com ok? good.--[[User:Darkrai breeder|'''Darkrai''']] [[User talk:Darkrai breeder|'''breeder''']] 23:43, 16 April 2008 (UTC) also the email isnt my name. i just made up the name

I never said I believed you, I said to give you a chance, and you failed. Plus, you can't breed legendaries with anything but ditto... UNTIL I SEE THE '''VIDEO''' WITH MY OWN EYES, I DON'T BELIEVE YOU'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 23:48, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
:one off-topic question: Have you ever trusted a bumbling snitch bug like chris? he always says tommorow i will send you the video.
::IT HAS BEEN A FREAKIN MONTH! no offence to other bumbling snitch bugs--[[User:Darkrai breeder|'''Darkrai''']] [[User talk:Darkrai breeder|'''breeder''']] 23:53, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

We don't care about others. WE WANT '''YOU''' TO GET '''THE VIDEO''' '''''NOW''''' '''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 23:58, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
:::did you or did you not remember i ONLY have firered. i lost pearl before i joined bulbapedia! sorry but i cant get a pokemon pearl with a snap of my fingers.if ANYONE has a question gmail me. but if your not careful, my computer can tell me about a virus and block your email.--[[User:Darkrai breeder|'''Darkrai''']] [[User talk:Darkrai breeder|'''breeder''']] 02:26, 17 April 2008 (UTC) now im going on addictinggames.com.cya tomorrow.
::::If you have no proof of Glatra to show us, video or not, then do not say it is real. problem solved[[User:Darth Cookie Monster]] 21:07, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
ok. umm and who is the guy who introduced glatra to GLATRA? me.also you cant say its fake unless i say so. P.S. CrazyBarkswantapiratehat!
:What?[[User:Darth Cookie Monster]] 13:45, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
::Out of curiosity, why can't we say it's fake without you saying so? Everyome has their own opinion. Oh and btw, wasn't this over, like 3 months ago? [[User:Midnight Celtic|Midnight]][[User talk:Midnight Celtic|Celtic]] 22:37, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
:::It was, but this genius has decided to bring it back up[[User:Darth Cookie Monster]] 00:41, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
::::I'll only believe it if i see a video, or a screenshot. '''[[User:Pachirisulover12|PL]][[User talk:Pachirisulover12|12]]''' 00:43, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
:::::Why is the text so small?[[User:Darth Cookie Monster]] 00:45, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
::::::I have no idea, but the same goes for me with the video•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 00:46, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
:::::::I will never believe it[[User:Darth Cookie Monster]] 01:20, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
::::::::Admittedly, I probably could try it, but for one thing, obvious fake, and two, my AR is so out of date, (I think it's v 1.2, or something like that) and I don't feel like updating it sans putting new games because my internet is slow. Dial-up anyone? And I must say, grats to Porygon-Z. That is the best fake I have seen in a very long time. In paint, Was it? [[User:Midnight Celtic|Midnight]][[User talk:Midnight Celtic|Celtic]] 12:52, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

: LOOK, I HAD TO WRITE A REPORT ABOUT A GUY I DONT KNOW ABOUT IN 3 F%$@ING WEEKS. I COULD ONLY GO ON AT 1 MINUTE A DAY. and i have the video, but i dont feel like uploading it. ok.
Glatra exists and i have 2 videos in my inbox and i might stop going on bulbapedia. glatra exists but you guys are jackasses
::THREE WEEKS!! that is plenty of time to do a report. When you get to high school, reports are usually done in two days! And if this is a problem for you...don't take Advanced Placement English where you have about twelve essays a week to do. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 22:58, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
:you dont ''feel'' like uploading it? welcome to the {{tt|bottom of the barrel|you lose.}}. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 23:38, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
::YOu might stop going on bulbapedia!! Why, because no one believes your lies to get attention{{tt|!|once again, you lose. Try again?}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster]] 14:36, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
I TYPE VERY SLOW!!!!!!!!!!!!! i am going on a pikmin wiki because bulbapedia IS FULL OF IDOTS.and pikmin rocks pokemon meh. I just went here to prove a glitch but people are trying
to rip my head of. '''snagretpikmin'''
::Yaaaaaa good luck with that. '''[[User:Pachirisulover12|PL]][[User talk:Pachirisulover12|12]]''' 21:59, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
what do you mean... hold on. thats better.
can SOMEONE thats been a admin for a while write down a list of reasons to get blocked on my page. and im talking about pokemaniac ect. thanks

# I'M NOT AN ADMIN!
# If this is still about Glatra, I'm giving you till the end of this month to show up with a video.
•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 23:04, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

:Wait a minute, Darkrai breeder. Who do you want blocked? Secondly, Pokemaniac, you don't exactly have the authority to tell him how long he has. If he can provide proof, we'll go along with Glatra. Period. --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 23:06, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
::I know, I just want to scare him to go faster... I'll go along with it if he has proof of course as well•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 23:08, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
:::I can vouch for Glatra's existence. But it WILL NOT be on 'pedia. Why? FOR PEEKS SAKE YOU NEED AR! '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Optimatum</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]'''26 Apr 2008
::::Sigh. There's no god damn glatra. I'm not even spelling it with a {{wp|capital G}} anymore because it's NOT a Pokemon! Darkrai Breeder just want s attention, and to get every one going, and he's doing it! Don't you think that if it really was in the game that MANY people would have found it by now? Don't you think the people who made AR would have included a code? THERE IS NO GLATRA. THERE WILL BE NO VIDEO. THAT'S IT. SUCK IT UP. [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 03:06, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
:::::Very well done Porygon-Z, you have laid out the entire situation. Now it's time to leave this behind and forget its existence•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 03:09, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
:GLATRA EXISTS! YOU HACK YOUR GAME TO GET IT! TRUST ME! BUT BECAUSE IT IS A HACK, DB GO TO HELL!!'''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Optimatum</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]'''26 Apr 2008
::hes right, i did find it after all. check my talk page! -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 03:17, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
:::Of my previous comment, I mean not only Porygon-Z but also Magnedeth•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 03:19, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
it is a glitch.not a hack
:HACK! HACK! HACK! '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Optimatum</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]'''26 Apr 2008
::Wait, I don't understand this, does Glatra exist? If it does, what is it?•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 03:43, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
:::the steps to get glatra include breeding Uxie with Beutifly. THIS IS NOT POSSIBLE AT ALL. NOT EVEN WITH AN ACTION REPLAY. end of story. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 04:02, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
:::: have you ever gotten a bad egg?
::::: and i dont '''WANT OR NEED''' atention.
Fine, I'll give u at'''t'''ention (That's what you get for spelling mistakes!)--[[User:Kuki|Kuki (w/ a Broken Diamond)]] 16:48, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Look people. I hate to seem like a moody little [insert word here], but get over it. Glatra is not real, it's obvious too the people here who actually have common sense. :\ No one hate me for pointing that out please, but the whole Glatra thing is getting annoying. Darkrai Breeder, Glatra is something you made up, get over it and stop trying too prove it's real when it obviously isn't. If it was, people who'd hack into Diamond/Pearl/Whatever game would have found it when they found Pokémon like Arceus and Shaymin. [[User:Takoto|Takoto]] 17:09, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
:That's what people are trying to say. (although, actually there was a user named Glatra who made Glatra up...) but anyway. There is seriously no precedent, and we have gone around for forever, but some people don't know when to give up. [[User:Midnight Celtic|Midnight]][[User talk:Midnight Celtic|Celtic]] 13:26, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
::Why don't people just ignore the people who say Glatra is real? I mean, it's totally pointless for the discussion too go on and on, it'll never end |: [[User:Takoto|Takoto]] 13:51, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
::: GLATRA(the user)wont be on bulbapedia due to a sprained ankle. AND HE DIDNT MAKE GLATRA UP HE ACUALLY SAW IT A WHILE BACK. and i told him about the glitch. --{{SUBST:User:Darkrai breeder/Signature}} 17:54, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
:+smiles+ hold on. why are there articels about things that you need action replay/gameshark on this website (ex. mystery zone, bad egg) might as well give up on glatra not existing. AND i could mail you a non-hacked pearl version where you can see it exists. and i will throw in 12 deoxys if it exists. if the game was hacked, it wont allow trade so no deoxys. not to mention that hack engines dont work on my cpu. {{unsigned|Darkrai breeder}}
::you expect me to believe that you found Glatra, when you dont even know how to use HTML? yea right. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 18:11, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
WTF does html have to do with glatra from what you think--{{SUBST:User:Darkrai breeder/Signature}} 18:16, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
and i saw it with my own 2 eyes *count on fingers* exacly 4 times!
:I'm pretty sure Magnedeth is saying that you're to dumb to find it. Why don't you mail it to me?•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 18:26, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
:Yah, when you saw the photoshopped image......[[User:Darth Cookie Monster]] 18:27, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
::Oh! that was so obviously fake•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 18:29, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
:::That is my point...............[[User:Darth Cookie Monster]] 18:30, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
:::: I will gladly get anyone on bulbapedia a glatra. and why is there a link to neopets on the mew page?
:::::Fine, get me one.[[User:Darth Cookie Monster]] 18:38, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
::::::ok and i will have to ask why the heck was this disscution deleted. and anyone else want glatra?
:::::::This discussion was removed to prove the point that glatra doesn't exist. Now I don't want it anymore and I don't believe it anymore nor will I ever.•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 18:42, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
::::::::Don't delete it, it is an example about how foolish people can be to get attention[[User:Darth Cookie Monster]] 18:45, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

:I'm Gonna Say this ONE LAST TIME!
:Sigh. There's no god damn glatra. I'm not even spelling it with a {{wp|capital G}} anymore because it's NOT a Pokemon! Darkrai Breeder just want s attention, and to get every one going, and he's doing it! Don't you think that if it really was in the game that MANY people would have found it by now? Don't you think the people who made AR would have included a code? THERE IS NO GLATRA. THERE WILL BE NO VIDEO. THAT'S IT. SUCK IT UP. STOP GIVING HIM ATTENTION! [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 18:46, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
::sigh. 27 pages with the word glatra on it•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 18:47, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
:::Join [[:User_talk:Origamiguy/GNBA|GNBA]] today! '''[[:User:Origamiguy|折り紙ガイ]] - [[:User_talk:Origamiguy|離す]][[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|貢献]]''' 18:52, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
::::I did! Darkrai Breeder, you should join too!•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 18:53, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
::::: [http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=PkTMbyxzTzc&fmt=18 It's over]. [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 22:39, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Nice one, Z!--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 22:45, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
ITS CHEATING TOU B@$TURD!!! Also would i say glatra doesnt exist IF IVE TRYED TO PROVE IT FOR MONTHS!!! EVERYONE ON THIS DISSCUTION IS A B@#$&%^*!!!!!!--[[User:Darkrai breeder|DaRkRaIbReEdEr LiEkS rOtOm]] 23:01, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
:I don't appreciate being called a B, at, number, dollar, and, percent, carrot, asterisk, exclamation points!!! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 23:08, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
'''SCREW YOU!'''--[[User:Darkrai breeder|DaRkRaIbReEdEr LiEkS rOtOm]] 23:11, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
PORGON-Z!!! DELETE THE VIDEO OR I WILL EMAIL THE GUY WHO STARTED BULBAPEDIA TO DISTROY YOUR ACOUNT!!! also, i hate rap.
:He wouldn't be deleted for something that isn't on this site... it is on youtube. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 23:15, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
:well, thats highly uncalled for. if anything, i just gave PGZ's video a 5 star. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 23:16, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
i finished a artical and 10 videos on another website
:I gave it one too! Plus, the creator (you should know by now who he is) wouldn't do that.•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 23:19, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
::There is nothing wrong with the video. There is no hate or anything. And I won't get banned from here for it. However, you might get banned for threatening Origami Guy on his talk page. [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 23:20, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
I dont care anymore. i could leave when the artical is done. then all will see it exists
:What is with you and spelling???? And, you can get blocked for creating the article without proof too many times•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 23:24, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
:::: you now what? i give up on proving it. you guys wont belive it.
:::::That first phrase doesn't make sense. And it doesn't exist.•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 23:28, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
Six-month block. You've been warned multiple times against harassing others, and yet you continue to harass everyone who even hints about this so-called "Glatra" being fake. Making threats against another user's account is crossing the line big-time. You'll have one last chance upon this block expiring, and if you can't clean up your behavior, you'll find yourself permanently blocked. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 23:35, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
:<big><big><big><big>LOL</big></big></big></big> '''[[:User:Origamiguy|折り紙ガイ]] - [[:User_talk:Origamiguy|離す]][[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|貢献]]''' 14:35, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

==Okay==
*{{u|Darkrai breeder}} - Please ''shut up''. You have virtually no control when push comes to shove, and {{u|Zhen Lin}} would not by any means delete {{u|Porygon-Z}}'s account for proving that Glatra is crap.

*{{u|Pokemaniac102}} - Stop goading him on. Just leave him be and he'll simmer down.

*Everybody else - This has gone on far too long. Leave Darkrai breeder alone (at least regarding Glatra) until he can provide reasonable proof of Glatra's existence. --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 23:33, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
:he's been blocked•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 23:38, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
:And I didn't want him to simmer down•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 23:39, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
::Drop it. [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 23:48, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

== [[User talk:Jioruji Derako|Signature Policy]] ==
I've noticed you're still depending on a now-deleted signature template for a signature. As per the new signature policy, which I've linked you to in this section's heading, signature templates are not allowed. You're going to have to put in hard coding if you want a custom signature. I've went ahead and replaced the busted templates in the above heading with your previous signature with the images removed (images in signatures are not allowed under the new policy). I'd recommend using what I've inserted as your signature. Thank you for listening. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 03:32, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

ok....uh....thanks? and what does my new sig look like now? darkrai breeder sig.
:EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW IS [[User talk:Jioruji Derako|HERE]]--'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 20:57, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

at the top of the page, go to "my preferences". then go to "nickname" and copy/paste the following into that spot. (edit the section to get the code)
-- [[User:Darkrai breeder|'''Darkrai''']] [[User talk:Darkrai breeder|'''breeder''']]
then you can sign your comments with the tildes and it will work. (btw, i HIGHLY suggest a darker color) -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 02:52, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

== Talk Page Comments ==

Please don't erase talk page comments for no reason, not even those on your own user talk page. Trust me, you do NOT want to end up like {{u|Big Johnno}}, who got into an edit war with [[User:Fabu-Vinny|a sysop]] over comments the former erased from his talk page and was trying to keep erased. That user ended up blocked and had every erased comment restored. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 21:32, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
:can you have users stop messing up my page?--DaRkRaIbReEdEr LiEkS rOtOm 18:52, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
::Well, bastardly little guy. When you come back 26 days after my PSLE, you might want to read this: REASON FOR INCLUDING MYSTERY ZONE AND BAD EGG: THEY AR PROGRAMMED INTO THE GAME'S DATA. >=( I don't like your attitude one bit. We (The people who hate Glatra) are 365 times more expirienced than you in wiki slang. Glatra is just a result of someone selling you a bloody GAKE game. Think of PGZ's Emerald (or mine). Glatra does not exist. End of story. '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Optimatum</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''09:26 4 May 2008'''''
We're not messing it up, you're just too afraid of the truth! You don't want to be scolded for the various misbehaviors on the eloquent establisment!--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 18:55, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

==Stay Cool Daddio!==
Hi Darkrai,I've read your talk page and you're worst than I am when I'm angry.Here's some advice if the editing starts to get hot.If editing is starting to stress you out, leave Bulbapedia for a while and do something else until you've cooled off then come back on and try to reason with the person who is annoying you. [[User:Agent008]];07/05/2008,00:04.
:He doesn't really have a choice about leaving for a while. He's been blocked. :D --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 23:08, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
::For how long,by whom and for what reason may I ask. [[User:Agent008]]
:::Six months, ShiningPikablu252, and for threatening Origamiguy. Look four sections above you. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Talk))]] 00:01, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
::::Okay thanks.6 months wow its' gonna long be a long time before he shows up around here again [[User:Agent008]]
:::::So my only question is, who invented glatra?
::::::The Darkrai Breeder. The {{u|Glatra}}. And, sadly, Bulbapedia Archives. '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''13:36 3 Jun 2008'''''
:::::::Makes perfect sense.[[User:Agent008]]

Hey uhm, how long until his ban is over? :\ Just wondering [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 17:15, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
i dont know--[[User:Xam430|Xam430]] 18:01, 13 October 2008 (UTC) Im a newbie--[[User:Xam430|Xam430]] 18:02, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
:Umm...why is this so big? Is it just my CPU or what? [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 18:10, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
::There was a wayward <nowiki></nowiki> tag making the text large.

::Anyway, the six months ends on the 27th of this month. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 20:08, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
==darkrai breeder==
put your sig here if you think darkrai breeder should stop talking about glatra --Xam430 22:41, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

please note Im not trying to offend him but I just want him to stop--[[User:Xam430|Xam430]] 23:03, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:Darkrai_breeder#L8ter_guys|ahem]. '''[[:User:Origamiguy|Lord]] of [[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Ori]][[Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|gami]]''' 11:51, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

User talk:Origamiguy

2008-10-14T10:15:43Z

Origamiguy: /* glatra */

User talk:Origamiguy

2008-10-14T10:13:55Z

Origamiguy: /* glatra */

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== Signature ==
:My sig {{m|Substitute}}s in my [[User_talk:Origamiguy/NameTemp]] page. is this allowed? '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|808080|Origami}}{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|FF8000|Guy}}-{{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|808080|T}}-{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|FF8000|C}}-{{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|0080FF|M}}''' 10:03, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
::When you say it substitutes, do you mean as in SUBST: templating? In that case, it's not allowed, mainly for two reasons; one, it's still technically using a template for your signature (albeit a less harmful one), and two, there's an unofficial coding limit for signatures, and if it doesn't fit in your [[Special:Preferences|Preferences]], then chances are, it's too much coding for one signature.
::On the note of large coding though, why do you have coding for background color in your signature? I mean, since you're making the background white with that coding, you might as well leave it out in the first place and save yourself some space... --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 12:57, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
:::ive shrunk it a bit, but it still wont fit in prefs. i'm working on it, leave User_talk:Origamiguy/NameTemp until ive got it in my prefs - i'll tell you. '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|808080|Origami}}{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|FF8000|Guy}}-{{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|808080|T}}-{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|FF8000|C}}-{{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|0080FF|M}}''' 14:53, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
::::Okie dokie, I'll let it be for now. And if nobody else noticed it yet, then you probably don't have to worry about them deleting it. :D --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 16:46, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
::::: Ive done it! finally fitted it into my prefs. but i will have to sign with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> instead of <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. so feel free to delete the page.  '''[[:User:Origamiguy|Lord]] of [[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Ori]][[Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|gami]]''' 10:02, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::Shining beat me to it. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 16:27, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
:i brought it back - fed up of putting small tags every time i sign. if the prefs box didnt auto-subst any template {{}} tags, it would fit '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|ff8000|gami}}''' 17:46, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
== trio ==

It says on their page or talk page they are confirmed. Look at the picture of Giratina with Palkia and Dialga. Also we know Arceus created them so he's their trio master. [[User:Sailor Earth|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Sailor Earth| of]][[User talk:Sailor Earth| Earth]] 11:19, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
:It was <big>NEVER</big> said that arceus created giratina. it's probable that they are a trio, but leave it until we have definitive proof. '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|808080|Origami}}{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|FF8000|Guy}}-{{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|808080|T}}-{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|FF8000|C}}-{{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|0080FF|M}}''' 11:21, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

::We do have definate proof, it says so on the trios page or talk page. They are a trio, and we know that Arceus created them. [[User:Sailor Earth|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Sailor Earth| of]][[User talk:Sailor Earth| Earth]] 11:23, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

:::[[Talk:Dragon_trio|Look Here]]

::::ahem.
::::''(Copied from [[Dragon trio]])''
::::Dragon trio is a term used by many Pokémon fans to refer to three legendary Pokémon that '''''may or may not be a legendary trio of the Sinnoh region'''''. It is composed of three Pokémon: Dialga, Palkia and Giratina. 
::::'''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|808080|Origami}}{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|FF8000|Guy}}-{{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|808080|T}}-{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|FF8000|C}}-{{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|0080FF|M}}''' 11:28, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

:::::Now you [[Talk:Dragon_trio|Look Here]]!!!
::::::Which bit? use <nowiki>[[Talk:Dragon_trio#(section name)|Look Here]]</nowiki> '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|808080|Origami}}{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|FF8000|Guy}}-{{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|808080|T}}-{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|FF8000|C}}-{{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|0080FF|M}}''' 11:38, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh, thanx for telling me how to link to a particular section. [[User:Sailor Earth|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Sailor Earth| of]][[User talk:Sailor Earth| Earth]] 12:04, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

== Category titles ==

Make sure not to use title case on them. Unlike regular pages and templates and such... they're impossible to move and redirect. So make sure that things aren't in title case unless they're titles. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 18:26, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
:Okay, sorry, i didn't know the rules about that. i know now so i will stick to it in future. '''[[:User:Origamiguy|Lord]] of [[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Ori]][[Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|gami]]''' 15:47, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

== Girlfriend Help ==
''(I know i'm not meant to use my talkpage for myspace-ish junk, just let me get an answer and then i'll remove this)''.

more help needed i'm afraid, here's the thing:
we're both performing in our school's summer concert tonight, and i was going to ask her out at the end. is this a good idea? '''[[:User:Origamiguy|Lord]] of [[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Ori]][[Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|gami]]''' 15:47, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
:Yep[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|Emperor's Cookies]] 15:48, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
::alright, {{tt|i'll do it|if i dont chicken out again...}} '''[[:User:Origamiguy|Lord]] of [[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Ori]][[Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|gami]]''' 15:52, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
:::BTW, if you want a more friendly place to discuss this, go here:http://ipgl.proboards84.com/index.cgi?,make an account, go to non bulbapedia discussion or the dump, and make a new thred there. Ok?[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|Emperor's Cookies]] 17:32, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

::::[http://ipgl.proboards84.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=bulbapedia&thread=82 done]. '''[[:User:Origamiguy|Lord]] of [[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Ori]][[Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|gami]]''' 12:13, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

== external links ==

how do you hide the little image next to them? '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|ff8000|gami}}''' 18:52, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

and can I link to other bulbawiki sites (news/archives) without it being an external link? '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|ff8000|gami}}''' 18:56, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

== Personal images ==
These are your personal images,
*[[a:Image:80pxOG2.png]]
*[[a:Image:ShoopDaWhoop.png]]
:I wish to keep the following:
:*[[a:Image:80pxOG2.png]]
:*[[a:Image:ShoopDaWhoop.png]]
:Thankyou '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|ff8000|gami}}''' 09:24, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
::Thank you very much! I am so glad you responded so I didn't have to delete them all like I will have to for some come Sunday. Remember, there are always alternate image hosting sites if you need more for yourself. The above comment shall now be deleted! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 12:40, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

== Missions ==

They will have to be purged. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 14:19, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
:removed links to them, feel free to delete all under User:Origamiguy/Mission
:and another thing, what happened to [[User:Origamiguy/Notices]]? i had it so that i could have notices on both my talk page and user page without making multiple edits. '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|ff8000|gami}}''' 10:57, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

== New tag ==

[[Template:User Admin Candidate]]

Use it. Now. :D --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 00:29, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
==glatra==
What is glatra?I don`t really believe in it from what I`ve read.So can you tell me more about it?Put it on my talk page.--[[User:Xam430|Xam430]] 18:12, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

P.S. Do you really do origami?--[[User:Xam430|Xam430]] 18:36, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

its a fake glitch 'mon made up by {{u|Darkrai Breeder}}.
and yes, i do origami, hence the name. Check [http://origami-guy.deviantart.com/gallery] for a few pics. '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|ff8000|gami}}''' 10:12, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

User:Origamiguy/NameTemp

2008-10-14T10:13:36Z

Origamiguy: New page: '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamig...

'''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|ff8000|gami}}'''

User talk:Origamiguy

2008-10-14T10:12:22Z

Origamiguy: /* glatra */

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== Signature ==
:My sig {{m|Substitute}}s in my [[User_talk:Origamiguy/NameTemp]] page. is this allowed? '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|808080|Origami}}{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|FF8000|Guy}}-{{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|808080|T}}-{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|FF8000|C}}-{{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|0080FF|M}}''' 10:03, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
::When you say it substitutes, do you mean as in SUBST: templating? In that case, it's not allowed, mainly for two reasons; one, it's still technically using a template for your signature (albeit a less harmful one), and two, there's an unofficial coding limit for signatures, and if it doesn't fit in your [[Special:Preferences|Preferences]], then chances are, it's too much coding for one signature.
::On the note of large coding though, why do you have coding for background color in your signature? I mean, since you're making the background white with that coding, you might as well leave it out in the first place and save yourself some space... --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 12:57, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
:::ive shrunk it a bit, but it still wont fit in prefs. i'm working on it, leave User_talk:Origamiguy/NameTemp until ive got it in my prefs - i'll tell you. '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|808080|Origami}}{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|FF8000|Guy}}-{{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|808080|T}}-{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|FF8000|C}}-{{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|0080FF|M}}''' 14:53, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
::::Okie dokie, I'll let it be for now. And if nobody else noticed it yet, then you probably don't have to worry about them deleting it. :D --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 16:46, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
::::: Ive done it! finally fitted it into my prefs. but i will have to sign with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> instead of <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. so feel free to delete the page.  '''[[:User:Origamiguy|Lord]] of [[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Ori]][[Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|gami]]''' 10:02, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
::::::Shining beat me to it. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 16:27, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
:i brought it back - fed up of putting small tags every time i sign. if the prefs box didnt auto-subst any template {{}} tags, it would fit '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|ff8000|gami}}''' 17:46, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
== trio ==

It says on their page or talk page they are confirmed. Look at the picture of Giratina with Palkia and Dialga. Also we know Arceus created them so he's their trio master. [[User:Sailor Earth|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Sailor Earth| of]][[User talk:Sailor Earth| Earth]] 11:19, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
:It was <big>NEVER</big> said that arceus created giratina. it's probable that they are a trio, but leave it until we have definitive proof. '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|808080|Origami}}{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|FF8000|Guy}}-{{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|808080|T}}-{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|FF8000|C}}-{{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|0080FF|M}}''' 11:21, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

::We do have definate proof, it says so on the trios page or talk page. They are a trio, and we know that Arceus created them. [[User:Sailor Earth|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Sailor Earth| of]][[User talk:Sailor Earth| Earth]] 11:23, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

:::[[Talk:Dragon_trio|Look Here]]

::::ahem.
::::''(Copied from [[Dragon trio]])''
::::Dragon trio is a term used by many Pokémon fans to refer to three legendary Pokémon that '''''may or may not be a legendary trio of the Sinnoh region'''''. It is composed of three Pokémon: Dialga, Palkia and Giratina. 
::::'''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|808080|Origami}}{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|FF8000|Guy}}-{{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|808080|T}}-{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|FF8000|C}}-{{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|0080FF|M}}''' 11:28, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

:::::Now you [[Talk:Dragon_trio|Look Here]]!!!
::::::Which bit? use <nowiki>[[Talk:Dragon_trio#(section name)|Look Here]]</nowiki> '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|808080|Origami}}{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|FF8000|Guy}}-{{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|808080|T}}-{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|FF8000|C}}-{{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|0080FF|M}}''' 11:38, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh, thanx for telling me how to link to a particular section. [[User:Sailor Earth|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Sailor Earth| of]][[User talk:Sailor Earth| Earth]] 12:04, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

== Category titles ==

Make sure not to use title case on them. Unlike regular pages and templates and such... they're impossible to move and redirect. So make sure that things aren't in title case unless they're titles. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 18:26, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
:Okay, sorry, i didn't know the rules about that. i know now so i will stick to it in future. '''[[:User:Origamiguy|Lord]] of [[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Ori]][[Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|gami]]''' 15:47, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

== Girlfriend Help ==
''(I know i'm not meant to use my talkpage for myspace-ish junk, just let me get an answer and then i'll remove this)''.

more help needed i'm afraid, here's the thing:
we're both performing in our school's summer concert tonight, and i was going to ask her out at the end. is this a good idea? '''[[:User:Origamiguy|Lord]] of [[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Ori]][[Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|gami]]''' 15:47, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
:Yep[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|Emperor's Cookies]] 15:48, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
::alright, {{tt|i'll do it|if i dont chicken out again...}} '''[[:User:Origamiguy|Lord]] of [[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Ori]][[Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|gami]]''' 15:52, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
:::BTW, if you want a more friendly place to discuss this, go here:http://ipgl.proboards84.com/index.cgi?,make an account, go to non bulbapedia discussion or the dump, and make a new thred there. Ok?[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|Emperor's Cookies]] 17:32, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

::::[http://ipgl.proboards84.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=bulbapedia&thread=82 done]. '''[[:User:Origamiguy|Lord]] of [[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Ori]][[Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|gami]]''' 12:13, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

== external links ==

how do you hide the little image next to them? '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|ff8000|gami}}''' 18:52, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

and can I link to other bulbawiki sites (news/archives) without it being an external link? '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|ff8000|gami}}''' 18:56, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

== Personal images ==
These are your personal images,
*[[a:Image:80pxOG2.png]]
*[[a:Image:ShoopDaWhoop.png]]
:I wish to keep the following:
:*[[a:Image:80pxOG2.png]]
:*[[a:Image:ShoopDaWhoop.png]]
:Thankyou '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|ff8000|gami}}''' 09:24, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
::Thank you very much! I am so glad you responded so I didn't have to delete them all like I will have to for some come Sunday. Remember, there are always alternate image hosting sites if you need more for yourself. The above comment shall now be deleted! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 12:40, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

== Missions ==

They will have to be purged. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 14:19, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
:removed links to them, feel free to delete all under User:Origamiguy/Mission
:and another thing, what happened to [[User:Origamiguy/Notices]]? i had it so that i could have notices on both my talk page and user page without making multiple edits. '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|ff8000|gami}}''' 10:57, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

== New tag ==

[[Template:User Admin Candidate]]

Use it. Now. :D --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 00:29, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
==glatra==
What is glatra?I don`t really believe in it from what I`ve read.So can you tell me more about it?Put it on my talk page.--[[User:Xam430|Xam430]] 18:12, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

P.S. Do you really do origami?--[[User:Xam430|Xam430]] 18:36, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

its a fake glitch 'mon made up by {{u|Darkrai Breeder}}.
and yes, i do origami, hence the name. Check [http://origami-guy.deviantart.com/gallery] for a few pics. {{SUBST:User_talk:Origamiguy/NameTemp}} 10:12, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Bulbapedia talk:Messages from the Editor

2008-10-10T14:58:41Z

Origamiguy: /* When will userpage editability return? */

Asking for help to fix the [[Bulbapedia:List_of_common_misspellings|many misspellings here]] would be nice. — [[User:Jellochuu|Jellochuu]][[User talk:Jellochuu|¾]] 20:02, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)

http://es.pokemon.wikia.com/wiki/Portada
Should we add this Spanish-language Wiki? --[[User:Greengiant|Greengiant]] 07:55, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

:I highly doubt that. [[Encyclopaediae Pokémonis]] uses the Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike license throughout all languages. The Spanish-language wiki in question uses the GNU Free Documentation license, an incompatible license with Encyclopaediae Pokémonis. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 23:11, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

== When will userpage editability return? ==

So the message says that the results of the testing would be conclusive in a week. It's been over a month and no results! What's taking so long? [[User:Zurqoxn|Zurqoxn]] 21:53, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
:They said that the testing was over, and now they're figurin' out the limits of the amount of userspace edits. '''[[User:Pachirisulover12|PL]][[User talk:Pachirisulover12|12]]''' 21:57, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
::Yeah, I'd been wondering about that, too. I mean, I only edit my Userpage because I'm bored and want to try out my editing skills. I REALLY hope that the editing functionality comes back soon. [[User:Thunderboom]] 20:49, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
:::[[Bulbapedia:Sandbox]] can be used to experiment with the mediawiki coding. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 21:11, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
::::I wouldn't mind the ability to give myself a basic editor page. It seems to be slightly unfair perhaps that some users have such pages and newer users can't; but then, I think it might be worse if you have a page that you can't change. I just hope that this is addressed soon - it has now been ''two'' months since the announcement. An update of any kind would be nice. [[User:LostDrewid|LostDrewid]] 11:18, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::Another month has passed... =( [[User:Kilik|Kilik]] 14:45, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
Don't expect anything until 2009 [[User:MathijsP|MathijsP]] 15:25, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
Does the policy of three edits apply:
a) per day, week, month, etc.?
b) to talk pages?
'''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|ff8000|gami}}''' 14:58, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

== Hosting ==
Hello,

My name is Simon Koldyk and I'm from a company called ScribbleWiki, we do wiki hosting for corporations and community wikis. We would like to offer our services of hosting Bulbapedia. The advertising would stay in some form (not intrusive) and a little "hosted by ScribbleWiki" at the bottom would go up; but, any extra costs would be covered by our company.

We have no interest in owning/managing anything, the owner of the site would still be Archaic, and could choose to move anywhere else at any time. The content would still be under by-nc-sa, the only thing would change is we would handle the hosting architecture and assist with upgrading / development.

I'll be talking to Archaic personally; but, wanted to first post this to the community to see initial reactions to this sort of arrangement. --[[User:Simon Koldyk|Simon Koldyk]] 16:10, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
:'''LOLOLOLOLOLOL''' [[User:Ketsuban|Ketsuban]] 18:34, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

:* Huh? --[[User:Simon Koldyk|Simon Koldyk]] 20:53, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

==Red links==
Why is there a ? after all the red links now? [[User:LatiasGemstonr|LatiasGemstonr]]
:It's in your preferences, but I don't know where. Change it if you don't like it! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 19:03, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

User talk:Origamiguy

2008-10-10T14:55:52Z

Origamiguy:

User talk:Dry Bones/Archive I

2008-10-10T14:55:10Z

Origamiguy: /* And the grammar... */

==Welcome==
Welcome to [[Bulbapedia]], {{BASEPAGENAME}}!

As a new user, you may wish to learn a few things that will be useful in your editing:
*For a basic overview of wiki code, see [[Help:Editing|this page]].
*The {{bp|manual of style}} is very important. Make sure to read it. It outlines all official policies of Bulbapedia.
*Keep an eye on the {{bp|Messages from the Editor}} on the main page, to stay informed on current events on Bulbapedia.
*The word [[Pokémon]] is spelled with a capital '''P''' and an accented '''é'''. The é can be accessed by holding Alt and typing either '''130''' or '''0233''' on a Windows computer, and by using Option + e, then e again on a Mac. Otherwise, you can easily click it in the character palette below the editbox.
*The word [[Poké Ball]] is spelled as two words. The "Poké" part is identical to the four beginning letters in "Pokémon"; "Ball" is spelled with a capital '''B'''. The spelling "Pokéball" arises frequently, but is incorrect.
*The word "you" and all forms of it should not be used on encyclopedic pages unless it is a quote from Pokémon or other media. Bulbapedia is an encyclopedia, not a walkthrough.
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*A list of pages that are linked to, but have not been created, can be found at [[Special:Wantedpages|this page]]. A list of short articles that may require more information can be found {{cat|stubs|here}}, while a list of articles that need improvement can be found {{cat|articles needing improvement|here}}.
*For a future capture, release, trade, or evolution of a Pokémon belonging to a main character of the {{pkmn|anime}}, please do not create or move the page to reflect your suspicions, even if they are shared by many others. Policy here is to wait until the episode in which the event happens takes place is aired, unless there is substantial evidence for the suspicion (such as [[Brock's Happiny]] being held in his arms).
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*Having said this, please make sure that you do contribute adequately to the main namespace. Bulbapedia is not MySpace or Facebook.
*A list of the admins that you can contact in case of a problem can be found [[Special:Listusers/sysop|here]].

Thank you, and have a good time editing here! --[[User:Tesh|'''TESH''']][[User_talk:Tesh|'''IGIGAS''']] 22:32, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

== You know... ==

Spiritomb's not a one-per-game Pokémon. Not even close, unlike Rotom, because you ''can'' get more Odd Keystones. Both can breed anyway, though.

And don't forget to capitalize and accent Pokémon properly! Shift and p, Alt and 130 or 0233! '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:33, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

:And don't put speculation on '''any''' pages.--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|'''ュウ!''']] 01:02, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

== And the grammar... ==

"Don't look nothing like" is a HUGE grammar mistake and just makes you sound ''really dumb''. Plz to be using better grammar than that '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:42, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

:I can't get my grammer correct.....that is the reason it is one of my WORST subjects. {{unsigned|Dry Bones}}
::Grammar isn't a subject. It's part of a subject called English. '''[[User:Optimatum|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]]
::you can't even get your speling right either:
::I can't get my gramm'''e'''r correct
::'''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|ff8000|gami}}''' 14:55, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

TPPC

2008-10-10T14:51:49Z

Origamiguy:

Pokemon TPPC is the self proclamimed "Web's Most Popular Pokemon RPG." The game has been online for over 7 years, and is currently on Verion: 7.5.

Talk:TPPC

2008-10-10T14:51:31Z

Origamiguy: New page: if you're gonna make a new article, follow the manual of style, and maybe include some images. ~~~~

if you're gonna make a new article, follow the manual of style, and maybe include some images. '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|ff8000|gami}}''' 14:51, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

User talk:11 pokemad11

2008-09-26T17:07:38Z

Origamiguy: New page: {{subst:welcome}}

==Welcome==
Welcome to [[Bulbapedia]], 11 pokemad11!

As a new user, you may wish to learn a few things that will be useful in your editing:
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Thank you, and have a good time editing here! --'''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|ff8000|gami}}''' 17:07, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Type-enhancing item

2008-09-26T16:50:30Z

Origamiguy:

Metal Coat,
Found:
"Iron Island, found on some wild Bronzor, Bronzong, Steelix, Magnemite and Beldum (D/P)"

Does that means that it is found only on some wild Steelix wich appears in Iron Island or in any wild Steelix?
-Jimbo-

:From what I can tell, it means that there is one findable on Iron Island, and more can be stolen from a wild Bronzor, Bronzong, Steelix, Magnemite, or Beldum. Besides, out of the five Pokémon Metal Coats can be attached to in the wild, Steelix is the only one that even appears on Iron Island, which meant if attached Metal Coats were limited to Iron Island, only Steelix could hold them...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 21:26, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Had five rematches with Black Belt Nob and have not received the Black Belt. >_> <code>'''''←Vitrier'''''</code>[[Image:491MS.png]] 1831, 15 May 2007 (AEST)
:You have to use Thief on his Pokémon in order to get it. Same goes for the Silver Powder from Brandon and the Dragon Fang from Nicolas. [[User:Diachronos|Diachronos]] 16:13, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

what happens if we try to trade the platinum orb to diamond/pearl? '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|ff8000|gami}}''' 16:50, 26 September 2008 (UTC)