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Talk:Generation VIII

2022-11-10T23:15:00Z

Omor: /* Trivia */

==Japan is getting the Sword and Shield games in Winter 2019?==
Is this for real? Where's the source for that? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:34, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
:It's late 2019 as late 2019 can get (December). Japanese game release are usually referred to by the season.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:36, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
::Yeah, I just realized that. My bad. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 21:09, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

== Request ==

Request for someone to change the start date to November 15, 2019. I can't do it myself because the page is protected. [[User:Awesomelink234|Awesomelink234]] ([[User talk:Awesomelink234|talk]]) 17:28, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

Request to add Nessa as the water-type gym leader. [[User:Gen3Confirmed|Gen3Confirmed]] ([[User talk:Gen3Confirmed|talk]]) 21:50, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

== National Dex note ==

Can an admin add that Generation VIII will be the first generation to not allow Pokémon who are not in the regional dex to be transferred to the games? ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 15:14, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
:That seems actually the second time, after [[Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee!]]. --[[User:Daniel Carrero|Daniel Carrero]] ([[User talk:Daniel Carrero|talk]]) 00:23, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
::I've been thinking... Technically, Generation I was the actual first time, because obviously no other previous generation existed. --[[User:Daniel Carrero|Daniel Carrero]] ([[User talk:Daniel Carrero|talk]]) 03:25, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
:::That would then also apply to Generation II, but either way I think it would be irrelevant since it feels like splitting hairs at that point. [[User:Klop422|Klop422]] ([[User talk:Klop422|talk]]) 17:18, 13 July 2019 (UTC)
::::You're right. The important thing here is that the Switch games (LGPE and SwSh) broke the tradition of having all the previous Pokémon species available via transfers from other games. The articles about both games already state that in one way or another. --[[User:Daniel Carrero|Daniel Carrero]] ([[User talk:Daniel Carrero|talk]]) 09:39, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

== Header change. ==

The header of the page contains the "Incomplete" tag, when it should really contain the "Expected Future Event" tag.
[[User:DasRagnerokGPR|DasRagnerokGPR]] ([[User talk:DasRagnerokGPR|talk]]) 04:04, 13 October 2019 (UTC)

== Trivia ==

I think it might be fair at this point to recognize the following points:
* Generation VIII is the first generation:
** To not have its [[Core series|main paired releases]] compatible with the entirety of the Pokémon species and moves existing as of its release.
** To introduce [[Fossil]] Pokémon that cannot breed.
** To introduce [[List of Pokémon with cross-generational evolutions|cross-generational evolutions]] exclusive to [[Regional form]]s.
* At the time of its debut, Generation VIII introduced the least [[Legendary Pokémon]], only introducing three.
* At the time of its debut, Generation VIII introduced the least [[Mythical Pokémon]], introducing none.
[[User:SaniOKh|SaniOKh]] ([[User talk:SaniOKh|talk]]) 17:47, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
:The first point isn't true as Ruby and Sapphire were incompatible with RBGY/GSC, the third point as well since Mime Jr. can evolve into Galarian Mr. Mime. The rest of them sound like they're valid though. --[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] ([[User talk:Spriteit|talk]]) 00:43, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
::I feel like, for that last point, you should just say, "At the time of its debut, Generation VIII introduced no new [[Mythical Pokémon]]." Or something along those lines. Your suggestion just feels redundant and too wordy. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 03:31, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
:::Just added the suggested material. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 04:38, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
::::I think comparing Sword and Shield situation, and even BDSP and PLA by consequence, to Ruby/Sapphire is not correct. It's true many Pokémon were not obtainable when RS came out, but they were compatible and totally obtainable via trade (that there was no other game to trade with is a different situation). That said, probably Let's Go were technically the first main games not to introduce every pre-existing Pokémon. However, Gen VIII is the first generation were Pokémon species are completely absent from any mainline game, that is, Pokémon that didn't appear through any means either in SwSh, BDSP or PLA, such as the Kalos starters, Sewaddle line, Meloetta, etc. and I think that should be noted --[[User:Omor|Omor]]

== Expansion Pass ==
Similar to how previous generations have separated sections that specifically include additions from later games in the series, should there be a section that elaborates on what the Expansion Pass adds/plans to add? [[User:Brawlersinthezone|Brawlersinthezone]] ([[User talk:Brawlersinthezone|talk]]) 16:31, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

== Reboot? ==

The article says "Like Generation III and Generation V before it, Generation VIII can be considered something of a "reboot" of the franchise." I think this sentence needs some clarification. What characteristic does generation VIII share with Generations III and V that it doesn't share with other generations? {{unsigned|RandomizedKirbyTree47}}
:I'm assuming they are referring to the fact that not all Pokémon are available somewhat similar to Generation II. The intro mentions this, but late on so I'm not 100% sure if that was indeed the intent. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 01:07, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

== Legends: Arceus Title Screens ==

I noticed while playing Pokémon legends: Arceus that there are a couple more title screens than just one title screen shown in the page. When you load up the game, the title screen is different depending on what location you were when you last played, also there is one if you load up the game while you are in the red sky part in the story. [[User:Greeniceking|Greeniceking]] ([[User talk:Greeniceking|talk]]) 02:40, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Talk:Generation VIII

2022-11-10T23:13:53Z

Omor: /* Trivia */

==Japan is getting the Sword and Shield games in Winter 2019?==
Is this for real? Where's the source for that? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:34, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
:It's late 2019 as late 2019 can get (December). Japanese game release are usually referred to by the season.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:36, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
::Yeah, I just realized that. My bad. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 21:09, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

== Request ==

Request for someone to change the start date to November 15, 2019. I can't do it myself because the page is protected. [[User:Awesomelink234|Awesomelink234]] ([[User talk:Awesomelink234|talk]]) 17:28, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

Request to add Nessa as the water-type gym leader. [[User:Gen3Confirmed|Gen3Confirmed]] ([[User talk:Gen3Confirmed|talk]]) 21:50, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

== National Dex note ==

Can an admin add that Generation VIII will be the first generation to not allow Pokémon who are not in the regional dex to be transferred to the games? ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 15:14, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
:That seems actually the second time, after [[Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee!]]. --[[User:Daniel Carrero|Daniel Carrero]] ([[User talk:Daniel Carrero|talk]]) 00:23, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
::I've been thinking... Technically, Generation I was the actual first time, because obviously no other previous generation existed. --[[User:Daniel Carrero|Daniel Carrero]] ([[User talk:Daniel Carrero|talk]]) 03:25, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
:::That would then also apply to Generation II, but either way I think it would be irrelevant since it feels like splitting hairs at that point. [[User:Klop422|Klop422]] ([[User talk:Klop422|talk]]) 17:18, 13 July 2019 (UTC)
::::You're right. The important thing here is that the Switch games (LGPE and SwSh) broke the tradition of having all the previous Pokémon species available via transfers from other games. The articles about both games already state that in one way or another. --[[User:Daniel Carrero|Daniel Carrero]] ([[User talk:Daniel Carrero|talk]]) 09:39, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

== Header change. ==

The header of the page contains the "Incomplete" tag, when it should really contain the "Expected Future Event" tag.
[[User:DasRagnerokGPR|DasRagnerokGPR]] ([[User talk:DasRagnerokGPR|talk]]) 04:04, 13 October 2019 (UTC)

== Trivia ==

I think it might be fair at this point to recognize the following points:
* Generation VIII is the first generation:
** To not have its [[Core series|main paired releases]] compatible with the entirety of the Pokémon species and moves existing as of its release.
** To introduce [[Fossil]] Pokémon that cannot breed.
** To introduce [[List of Pokémon with cross-generational evolutions|cross-generational evolutions]] exclusive to [[Regional form]]s.
* At the time of its debut, Generation VIII introduced the least [[Legendary Pokémon]], only introducing three.
* At the time of its debut, Generation VIII introduced the least [[Mythical Pokémon]], introducing none.
[[User:SaniOKh|SaniOKh]] ([[User talk:SaniOKh|talk]]) 17:47, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
:The first point isn't true as Ruby and Sapphire were incompatible with RBGY/GSC, the third point as well since Mime Jr. can evolve into Galarian Mr. Mime. The rest of them sound like they're valid though. --[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] ([[User talk:Spriteit|talk]]) 00:43, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
::I feel like, for that last point, you should just say, "At the time of its debut, Generation VIII introduced no new [[Mythical Pokémon]]." Or something along those lines. Your suggestion just feels redundant and too wordy. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 03:31, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
:::Just added the suggested material. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 04:38, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
::::I think comparing Sword and Shield situation, and even BDSP and PLA by consequence, to Ruby/Sapphire is not correct. It's true many Pokémon were not obtainable when RS came out, but they were compatible and totally obtainable via trade (that there was no other game to trade with is a different situation). That said, probably Let's Go were technically the first main games not to introduce every pre-existing Pokémon. However, Gen VIII is the first generation were Pokémon species are completely absent from any mainline game, that is, Pokémon that didn't appear through any means either in SwSh, BDSP or PLA, such as the Kalos starters, Sewaddle line, Meloetta, etc. --[[User:Omor|Omor]]

== Expansion Pass ==
Similar to how previous generations have separated sections that specifically include additions from later games in the series, should there be a section that elaborates on what the Expansion Pass adds/plans to add? [[User:Brawlersinthezone|Brawlersinthezone]] ([[User talk:Brawlersinthezone|talk]]) 16:31, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

== Reboot? ==

The article says "Like Generation III and Generation V before it, Generation VIII can be considered something of a "reboot" of the franchise." I think this sentence needs some clarification. What characteristic does generation VIII share with Generations III and V that it doesn't share with other generations? {{unsigned|RandomizedKirbyTree47}}
:I'm assuming they are referring to the fact that not all Pokémon are available somewhat similar to Generation II. The intro mentions this, but late on so I'm not 100% sure if that was indeed the intent. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 01:07, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

== Legends: Arceus Title Screens ==

I noticed while playing Pokémon legends: Arceus that there are a couple more title screens than just one title screen shown in the page. When you load up the game, the title screen is different depending on what location you were when you last played, also there is one if you load up the game while you are in the red sky part in the story. [[User:Greeniceking|Greeniceking]] ([[User talk:Greeniceking|talk]]) 02:40, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Talk:Generation VIII

2022-11-10T23:12:43Z

Omor: /* Trivia */

==Japan is getting the Sword and Shield games in Winter 2019?==
Is this for real? Where's the source for that? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:34, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
:It's late 2019 as late 2019 can get (December). Japanese game release are usually referred to by the season.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:36, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
::Yeah, I just realized that. My bad. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 21:09, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

== Request ==

Request for someone to change the start date to November 15, 2019. I can't do it myself because the page is protected. [[User:Awesomelink234|Awesomelink234]] ([[User talk:Awesomelink234|talk]]) 17:28, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

Request to add Nessa as the water-type gym leader. [[User:Gen3Confirmed|Gen3Confirmed]] ([[User talk:Gen3Confirmed|talk]]) 21:50, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

== National Dex note ==

Can an admin add that Generation VIII will be the first generation to not allow Pokémon who are not in the regional dex to be transferred to the games? ''[[User:Frozen Fennec|Frozen]] [[User talk:Frozen Fennec|Fennec]]'' 15:14, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
:That seems actually the second time, after [[Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee!]]. --[[User:Daniel Carrero|Daniel Carrero]] ([[User talk:Daniel Carrero|talk]]) 00:23, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
::I've been thinking... Technically, Generation I was the actual first time, because obviously no other previous generation existed. --[[User:Daniel Carrero|Daniel Carrero]] ([[User talk:Daniel Carrero|talk]]) 03:25, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
:::That would then also apply to Generation II, but either way I think it would be irrelevant since it feels like splitting hairs at that point. [[User:Klop422|Klop422]] ([[User talk:Klop422|talk]]) 17:18, 13 July 2019 (UTC)
::::You're right. The important thing here is that the Switch games (LGPE and SwSh) broke the tradition of having all the previous Pokémon species available via transfers from other games. The articles about both games already state that in one way or another. --[[User:Daniel Carrero|Daniel Carrero]] ([[User talk:Daniel Carrero|talk]]) 09:39, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

== Header change. ==

The header of the page contains the "Incomplete" tag, when it should really contain the "Expected Future Event" tag.
[[User:DasRagnerokGPR|DasRagnerokGPR]] ([[User talk:DasRagnerokGPR|talk]]) 04:04, 13 October 2019 (UTC)

== Trivia ==

I think it might be fair at this point to recognize the following points:
* Generation VIII is the first generation:
** To not have its [[Core series|main paired releases]] compatible with the entirety of the Pokémon species and moves existing as of its release.
** To introduce [[Fossil]] Pokémon that cannot breed.
** To introduce [[List of Pokémon with cross-generational evolutions|cross-generational evolutions]] exclusive to [[Regional form]]s.
* At the time of its debut, Generation VIII introduced the least [[Legendary Pokémon]], only introducing three.
* At the time of its debut, Generation VIII introduced the least [[Mythical Pokémon]], introducing none.
[[User:SaniOKh|SaniOKh]] ([[User talk:SaniOKh|talk]]) 17:47, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
:The first point isn't true as Ruby and Sapphire were incompatible with RBGY/GSC, the third point as well since Mime Jr. can evolve into Galarian Mr. Mime. The rest of them sound like they're valid though. --[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] ([[User talk:Spriteit|talk]]) 00:43, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
::I feel like, for that last point, you should just say, "At the time of its debut, Generation VIII introduced no new [[Mythical Pokémon]]." Or something along those lines. Your suggestion just feels redundant and too wordy. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 03:31, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
:::Just added the suggested material. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 04:38, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
::::I think comparing Sword and Shield situation, and even BDSP and PLA by consequence, to Ruby/Sapphire is not correct. It's true many Pokémon were not obtainable when RS came out, but they were compatible and totally obtainable via trade (that there was no other game to trade with is a different situation). That said, probably Let's Go were technically the first main games not to introduce every pre-existing Pokémon. However, Gen VIII is the first generation were Pokémon species are completely absent from any mainline game, that is, Pokémon that didn't appear through any means either in SwSh, BDSP or PLA, such as the Kalos starters, Sewaddle line, Meloetta, etc.

== Expansion Pass ==
Similar to how previous generations have separated sections that specifically include additions from later games in the series, should there be a section that elaborates on what the Expansion Pass adds/plans to add? [[User:Brawlersinthezone|Brawlersinthezone]] ([[User talk:Brawlersinthezone|talk]]) 16:31, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

== Reboot? ==

The article says "Like Generation III and Generation V before it, Generation VIII can be considered something of a "reboot" of the franchise." I think this sentence needs some clarification. What characteristic does generation VIII share with Generations III and V that it doesn't share with other generations? {{unsigned|RandomizedKirbyTree47}}
:I'm assuming they are referring to the fact that not all Pokémon are available somewhat similar to Generation II. The intro mentions this, but late on so I'm not 100% sure if that was indeed the intent. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 01:07, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

== Legends: Arceus Title Screens ==

I noticed while playing Pokémon legends: Arceus that there are a couple more title screens than just one title screen shown in the page. When you load up the game, the title screen is different depending on what location you were when you last played, also there is one if you load up the game while you are in the red sky part in the story. [[User:Greeniceking|Greeniceking]] ([[User talk:Greeniceking|talk]]) 02:40, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Talk:Pokémon Café ReMix

2022-08-01T14:36:22Z

Omor: Created page with "I think the article needs to be updated to the latest release. There's a few Pokémon characters and shinies, as well as special outfits that have been released to the game, b..."

I think the article needs to be updated to the latest release. There's a few Pokémon characters and shinies, as well as special outfits that have been released to the game, but I don't know how to edit the contents correctly.

Talk:List of animated series Pokémon by Evolution

2022-03-08T19:49:46Z

Omor: /* Not main characters */

You left out {{TP|Jessie|Arbok}} & {{TP|James|Weezing}}! [[User:Zurqoxn|Zurqoxn]] 04:14, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

How come you didn't do Tracey's Pokémon? ;_; --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|ケンジ]][[User:Kenji-girl|ガール]] 04:27, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
:Fix-ed. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]][[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 05:06, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

== So what about Pokémon that ''can't'' evolve? ==

Should those be included, like Torkoal? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]][[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 21:41, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
:Nah... [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 21:42, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
::Unless in Gen V they get a cross-gen evo, right? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]][[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 23:03, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Yeah. Or anything after that. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 23:08, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

== Brock's Vulpix ==

Should [[Brock's Vulpix]] be included? I mean, it left Brock's group a long time ago and I doubt we'll ever see it again, unless it's the series finale or something.[[User:Conanfan1412|Conanfan1412]] 22:53, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:I would pose the same question about Onix. All that's known for sure is that it didn't evolve before AG133, and did before AG176, since Brock was surprised to see it in the latter. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]][[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 23:36, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:: I'll just add Vulpix. Also, the fact Onix evolve between AG133 and AG176 clearly shows that's it should be placed at the bottom, not counting the unevolved Pokemon of course, lasting over 140 episodes more than Togepi. [[User:Conanfan1412|Conanfan1412]] 23:53, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

== Special manga ==

I've just started a version of this for the characters in Pokemon Special on my user page. It's in a working process.[[User:Conanfan1412|Conanfan1412]] 05:13, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

== Ash's Charmander ==

Why isn't Ash's charmander evolving into Charmeleon in here?[[User:Darkmaster0|Darkmaster]][[User talk:Darkmaster0|0]]17:39, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
:You might want to check under a [[Brock's Crobat|Golbat]] evolving into a {{TP|Brock|Crobat}}. [[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[Special:Contributions/TinaTheKirlia|☆]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]] 17:43, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Oh it is in there.but why isn't it up near charizard?[[User:Darkmaster0|Darkmaster]][[User talk:Darkmaster0|0]]17:42, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
:Because um, it's 'shortest evolution' (Like how Caterpie stayed a Caterpie for less than an episode...) to 'longest time to evolve'. Charmeleon evolved into 'zard quickly, while Charmander took a while to evolve, so it's near the bottom. [[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[Special:Contributions/TinaTheKirlia|☆]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]] 17:45, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

== In the cases of Caterpie and Yanma ==

Should we include minutes, instead of saying 0 episodes?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 15:29, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

How the hell are we suppose to know how many minutes it took for Caterpie/Yanma to evolve? --[[User:Force Fire|Force Fire]] [[User talk:Force Fire|(Talk)]] 07:50, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

For screen minutes, just time it. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 14:03, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

== James's Cacnea ==

Shouldn't it be removed? I mean it is not with James anymore unless it returns in [[DP100]] or later with [[Gardenia]]. I would like to remove it, but i might start an Edit-War.... --[[User:Force Fire|Force]] [[User talk:Force Fire|Fire]] 06:44, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

No. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 09:18, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Let's say Ash goes to that new battle area in Platinum (the Battle Frontier equivalent, if it exists). Brock goes home, and discovers that Geodude evolved into Golem, and tells Ash about it. That's why we didn't remove Crobat Onix or Geodude.--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 11:24, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
: But Crobat can't evolve further. --[[User:Force Fire|Force]] [[User talk:Force Fire|Fire]] 11:57, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

But do u get my point that even though Pokemon were left in someone else's care they still count.--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 12:31, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

== Eggs? ==

It may not be evolution exactly, but should the egghatch times be listed here, too, possibly in a separate section of the page? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:35, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

:I second that--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 00:43, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

::And I come back six months later and do it... and a whole page cleanup... — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 05:35, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

==Ash's Snorunt==

You know I have to disagree, it evolved simply because it deflected Team Rocket's attacks, and not because it learned ice beam which it failed before evolution. And used after evolution, that doesn't mean it evolved by learning ice beam though. What caused Snorunt to evolve, was being attacked by Team Rocket, or if you want protecting Pikachu. I don't know where this because it learned ice beam came from.--[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 08:54, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
:Noted and changed. Thanks. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 09:05, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

== Ash's Bayleef ==
Should there be a section for Pokémon that have evolved (Like Ash's Bayleef) but can still evolve again? I'm not sure Ash's Bayleef is the only example but it's the only one that comes to me off the top of my head --[[User:Blackstone Dresden|Blackstone Dresden]] 19:14, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

== Specific Order? ==

Are the lists in a specific order? If not, I think that Brock's Crobat should be near the rest of its evolutions. Currently the evolution from Zubat to Golbat is towards the bottom and then the evolution from Golbat to Crobat is farther above. I think the Golbat to Crobat evolution should be moved directly below the Zubat to Golbat evolution.

Thanks.–'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 17:52, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
:The order is the ammount of time it took to evolve. Zubat took forever (159 eps) to evolve into Golbat, so that evolution is near the bottom of the list, while it then evolved into Crobat in 31 episodes, so that evolution is near the top of the list. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 19:19, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

== Lists of Pokémon ==

Shouldn't this page be included in the Lists of Pokémon template, like the [[List of Pokémon by anime debut]]? --[[User:Mine4017|Mine4017]] ([[User talk:Mine4017|talk]]) 16:29, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

== Mega Evolutions Included? ==

What about that you can include Brock and Misty's Steelix and Gyarados's Mega Evolutions on this list? Because Brock and Misty's Steelix and Gyarados had Mega-evolved into Mega Steelix and Gyarados, respectively, for the first time in the Sun and Moon episode, When Regions Collide.
[[User:Swampertguy|Swampertguy]] ([[User talk:Swampertguy|talk]]) 23:38, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
:Mega evolutions are not evolutions, they are transformations of the same form.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 07:13, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

== Not main characters ==

What about evolutions of Pokemon that don't belong to main characters. There aren't many of them. I think Mankey, Sandile, I recall gag with evolving Kakuna, Elektrike, Wailmer, Drifloon, Aaron's Beautifly etc.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket Grunt]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Report To Me]])''' 19:31, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
:None of those are as important as the main character's Pokemon. No one is going to care when Aaron's Wurmple evolved.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 02:47, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
::It would be interesting to see at least the list all evolutions that happened on screen.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket Grunt]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Report To Me]])''' 12:23, 20 March 2020 (UTC) 
:::To be honest it would be interesting and useful to have a list of all the evolutions that have occurred on screen even if it's a secondary character, or even a wild Pokémon. Evolution is one of the most fascinating moments of the anime, no matter which Pokémon, especially when you consider how many main character's Pokémon haven't evolved, so sometimes secondary character's evolutions is all we get in a while. I could've sworn there was already an article listing this, but I guess I dreamed it. It would be much more useful and interesting than the 5-items list of [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Category:Episodes_in_which_a_main_character%27s_Pok%C3%A9mon_refuses_to_evolve Episodes in which a main character's Pokémon refuses to evolve], for example. I was thinking in a table in chronological order (maybe divided by season or by generation) with the Pokémon name or sprite, whose Pokémon it is or if it's wild, episode or movie when the evolution occurs (or do different sections for anime, movies, and specials) and maybe a screenshot of the moment it happens, especially useful to see how the evolution animation has ''evolved'' over the years.
:::{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; width:auto; background: #6D8040; border: 5px solid #C4E673"
|- style="text-align:center"
! style="background:#E0F2B6; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Pokémon
! style="background:#E0F2B6" | Trainer
! style="background:#E0F2B6" | Episode
! style="background:#E0F2B6; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Screenshot
|- style="background:#fff"
| {{MSP|616|Shelmet}} → {{MSP|617|Accelgor}}
| [[Professor Juniper]]
| [[BW063]]
| [[File:Shelmet evolution Best Wishes.png|thumb]]
|}
:::Doesn't need to be gifs necessarily, but that's one of the images I found in here. It would exclude off-screen evolutions. I know it's a lot of effort now, but one would've thought it was a basic thing to list and keep track of over the years. --[[User:Omor|Omor]] ([[User talk:Omor|talk]]) 19:49, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

== Link to Articles ==

Is there perhaps a reason why there's no link to the subject's article. Like Ash's Gligar evolving, but you have in a roundabout way to get to Ash's Gliscor? Like you have to go to Ash or perhaps the Gligar page to get to the subject's article (is it to complex to work that in?; or perhaps I'm missing it entirely?). I ask because Go's Scorbunny goes to a non-existent Go's Scorbunny page because it doesn't redirect to Go's Raboot? Confused.--[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] ([[User talk:Dman dustin|talk]]) 06:10, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
: To clarify I mean the Pokemon that have evolved --[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] ([[User talk:Dman dustin|talk]]) 06:11, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
::[[Go's Scorbunny]], as a link, does redirect to Go's Raboot. And the link to the pokemon's page is under the image of the evolved pokemon. Click the image of Gliscor will take you to [[Ash's Gliscor]], but clicking on the Gligar will take you to {{p|Gligar}}. [[User:ArcToraphim|Kai]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 09:23, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
::: Apologies, I'm just used to the links being highlighted when going over a link (as in a little highlight box telling you where the "link" takes you), and I notice that in a lot of instances, if you go over a menu sprite and it lists a number (the Pokemon's national dex number), it just takes you the image page of that sprite (especially contradictory when some of them actually do highlight where the link takes you), I neglected to look at where the "link" actually took you, the link location highlighted at the very bottom of the screen (at least on my computer). To clarify I mean when you go over an image, and the white rectangular box pops up (near the cursor) it usually tells you what the "link" goes. I go over Yanma's menu sprite and it says Yanma, I go over to Yanmega it says 469. So went I went over to the menu sprite of Scorbunny and it said "Go's Scorbunny" so when I clicked on it it said the article didn't exist, but going over Raboot, it didn't say "Go's Raboot" for example it did just say 814. That's why I was confused because normally when the national dex number pops up in that white rectangular square, it just links to the image page for the menu sprite. So apologies for not looking at the bottom of my browser/screen that actually tells you (in Google Chrome at least) where the image ACTUALLY takes you. I should've verified a little bit more than just relying on past experience, and a single instance of clicking on "Go's Scorbunny" being highlighted and taking me to a "page does not exist" This is definitely my fault. --[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] ([[User talk:Dman dustin|talk]]) 17:45, 20 March 2020 (UTC)

== Rocket's Meowth ==

Can it ever evolve? It can Gigantamax, and in the games Gigantamax Meowth cannot evolve, so this is up in the air. [[User:GalarChampionAverie|Champion Averie]], signing off! ([[User talk:GalarChampionAverie|Need anything?]]) 00:10, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
:Gigantamax is not an evolution, it's a tranformed state. Same with Mega Evolution.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 07:27, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
:: I know. In the games, however, Gigantamax Meowth, Pikachu, or Eevee cannot evolve until fed Max Soup to remove the ability to Gigantamax. That's what I meant. [[User:GalarChampionAverie|Champion Averie]], signing off! ([[User talk:GalarChampionAverie|Need anything?]]) 18:08, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
::: Anime=/=Games. The writers don't have to follow every mechanic of the games, they can make Meowth evolve into a Persian regardless of the gigantamax factor.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:57, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

Talk:Evolution

2022-03-08T19:10:14Z

Omor: /* Pokémon Masters and Pokémon UNITE */ new section

Ummmm.... The bit about Eevees at the end is plain wrong. Things don't evolve due to their environment. It is merely that the creatures that have a favourable variation survive to produce offspring and pass on their genes, and so more things have the variation than don't. This is like junior high-level knowledge. [[User:DanJimi|DanJimi]] 10:25, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

at the list of non-evolving pokemon, you see the last pkmn is aerodactyl but next to it is a picture of an kabutops

== Phione ==

I put Phione on the list of non evolving non legendaries, and it keeps getting removed. WHY???? It's not as though Phione is legendary. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] 02:09, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

:Because in some people's minds, it is legendary. :/ [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 02:16, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

But it's not confirmed to be legendary. And IMO, the fact that one can recruit multiple Phione in MD2 PROVES conclusively that Phione is not a legendary (In the MD games, legendaries are strictly limited to one per game). --
''[[Glitch Pokémon|Glitch]] and [[Pokémon|Official]] Pokémon. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|should be considered equal]]!-- quoted by {{u|Missingno. Master}}
 15:20, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
:Please see your talk page, Missigno.Master. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 15:37, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

If it isn't a legendary, why is it banned from the battle tower? It's definitely not because of it's battle prowess. No. It's because it's normally unavailable in normal play. You still need access to Manaphy to get them.

It's no legendary, but it's still an event Pokémon in a sense. - PDL
:The only Pokémon banned from the Battle Tower are legendary. Phione is legendary, albeit the crappiest of them. Plus, Missingno Master, you might wanna do something OTHER than just adding Phione in there, such as, oh, changing the count to 43 and making it so the table isn't f'd up.
:Plus, here's the thing: how much of a chance does Phione have of getting evolutionary relatives? ZERO! It has Manaphy. The other 42 have at least a chance of that.
:Jeez, I understand being the devil's advocate, but Phione just isn't worth it. It sucks in battle, sure, but so do many other legendaries. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 08:11, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
::Devil's advocate? I wasn't suggesting that Phione should be listed >_>. However, I suppose I wasn't making myself clear enough. - PDL
:::No, the Pokémon banned from the Battle Tower are in the Uber tier. Note that Cresselia isn't banned, it's in the OU tier as well. Is it legendary? Hell yeah. (Yet it can compete in Uber if it really wants to..) [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 23:06, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
::::See, that's where fan definitions suck. Everything banned from the BT is legendary, the only exceptions to this are the normal legendary trios of each region (meaning, of course, that GKR and DPG aren't ''normal'' trios. They're mascot trios, though Giratina's not a mascot... but hey, it's a better name than other stuff), the Lati duo, Cressy, and Heatran. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 23:12, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
Ahem. Phione is now officially not a legendary. [http://www.pokemon.com/#mailbag_02042008 1] I take it this means I was justified in putting it back in the non-evolving non-legendary box thingy? --
''[[Glitch Pokémon]]. [[Pokémon|Official Pokémon]]. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two should be considered equal!-- quoted by [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno]][[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|.]] [[User:Missingno. Master|Master]]
 11:45, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
:Even if we assume that Phione is not legendary, which is unsubtantiated unless claimed or alluded to by the designers (that is, not any low-rank employee of an ''affiliated'' company), it still has no place on the list. The reason for this is that the list shows all Pokémon with ''some'' chance to evolve in later installments of the game. It has been observed, and in fact referenced in the Diamond and Pearl games, that legendaries need not evolve because they have reached their maximum potential as-is; therefore, there is no chance for any of the legendaries to evolve.

:It so happens that regardless of whether Phione is classified as legendary or not, there is no reason to believe that it will ever evolve. If it were to evolve, it would evolve into Manaphy, as any other scenario would be cumbersome (a legendary spawning a species not from its own family). However, the reason behind the fact that Phione does not evolve into Manaphy, which is that Manaphy is unique, will continue to hold beyond the current generation. -[[User:Unown Lord|Unown Lord]] 14:07, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

:Missingno. Master, you do realize that link confirms that Phione ''is'' a Legendary, right? [[User:Gligar|Gligar]] 15:27, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

::This conversation is from six months ago. Pokémon.com did list Phione as a non-legendary for a time, then changed it to a legendary status. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 15:41, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

==Anime Evolution==
In regards to the relation between the evolution in the anime than in the games. Wouldn't The anime be more reasonably sound than the games. Because I doubt that if Pokemon were real that most of these evolutions would occur exactly as in the games. The way I see it, the only reason why a certain Pokemon evolves the way it does in the game (with the exception of evolutionary stones and such) is to make it difficult for the player and it would be easier for a Pokemon Game developer if they limited it to one specific set of circumstances.

Granted there are a few exceptions: Such as evolutionary stones, and specific locations for a Pokemon to evolve, and perhaps it knowing a certain move. Though with Evolutionary stones, in an episode it said that the wind was able to carry evolutionary stones, so couldn't certain Pokemon evolve that way when it appears it just evolves naturally or mysteriously?

As for leveling up and trading, those just seem to make it more difficult for a trainer of the games to obtain Pokemon, that could easily be gotten by easier methods. --[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 13:51, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

== new to community, first post ==

I'd like to add my finding in, I thought evolution however I'm not really sure how to add it in, and where it would go. I was trying to figure out if a pokémon whose evolution has been delayed would be as strong as the same pokémon of the same level and a "natural" evolution so what I did is I took a Pidgey and used rare candies to evolve it to 25 not allowing it to evolve until 27 the stats were as follows
71HP
39ATK
38DFNS
32SPATK
35SPDFNS
42Spd
I then reset the game
and gave the same pidgey rare candies this time allowing it the "natural" evolution at level 18 when it got to level 25 the stats were as follows
71HP
39ATK
38DFNS
32SPATK
35SPDFNS
42Spd

so we can infer that the level the pokémon evolves at does not affect the stats. If anyone wants to suggest a heading to put this in, or even shorten it up, by all means

== About the comment at the page bottom ==

EVOLUTION IS NOT ABOUT CELL STRUCTURE. Eevee's evolution isn't akin AT ALL to real evolution. Evolution is triggered by Natural Selection, therefore, a single species cannot evolve. Only a population can. Just thought to make a side note. [[User:JirachiWishmaker0802|JirachiWishmaker0802]] 09:13, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

I agree, I'm a Biology student, evolution is about animals with favourable adaptations being statistically more likely to survive and so over many generations the favourable adaptations are spread throughout a population. Eevee's evolution is no way close enough to real evolution to get a mention, I will remove the sentence now... [[User:Prof. Pine|Prof. Pine]] 19:05, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

== De-volution ==

Umm... Is it worth metioning in the article that only mentioned instances of "de-volution" is in Slowbro's pokedex entries. (When it loses its shellder) --[[User:Hyurnat4|Hyurnat4]] 21:28, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

: In the Pocket Monsters manga, It is also possible to De-volve as Isamu Akai's Clefairy evolved into a clefable and then back. Should this be added into the article as a subcategory, or as trivia? --[[User:Proctor|Proctor]] 21:50, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

== Gender-related evolutions ==
It's worth noting that some evolutions occur (or don't occur) if a pokemon's a certain gender.

* Combee only evolves if it's female
* Kirlia will only evolve into a Gallade if it's male
* and Snorunt into Frosslass when female.

I thought this would be in the article, but Combee wasn't mentioned at all. [[User:LordHeinz|LordHeinz]] 00:37, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
:All fixed I hope. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 00:54, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

== Generation IV: Vulpix and Growlithe ==

Beginning with [[Generation IV]], it is now possible to get a Level 1 Ninetales/Arcanine by hatching a Vulpix/Growlithe Egg received from breeding and evolving the newly hatched Vulpix/Growlithe with a Fire Stone, making Vulpix and Growlithe the first Pokémon that can evolve to their final stage of evolution at the lowest level ever.
Unfortunately, the greatest trade-off of such an extremely premature evolution can be a poor move set which is very severe for Ninetales since it doesn't have any moves that it can learn by leveling up. --[[User:Arima|Arima]] 09:47, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
: This severe trade-off, however, can be alleviated to some degree through Move Tutoring and the use of TM/HMs. Therefore, it is merely a matter of choice between high stats and a reliable move set for either Pokémon. --[[User:Arima|Arima]] 10:06, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
:They aren't the first to do this. I can't remember for sure off the top of my head, but so can Togepi, Budew, and... yeah, it's early right now. Sorry. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|You enter a poorly lit room...]] 10:00, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
::Togepi and Budew do need to level up to evolve; however, it's true that many Pokémon can now evolve at Level 1. Staryu, Scyther, Onix, Porygon AND Porygon 2... basically any Pokémon which can both hatch from an egg and evolve without leveling up. So no, this isn't too notable. Although, come to think of it, perhaps Porygon ought to be mentioned, seeing as it's the only one to be able to evolve twice without leveling up. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 11:29, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
:::It's noted on {{p|Porygon-Z}}'s and {{p|Roserade}}'s pages that they are the only two Fully evolved three-stage Pokémon which can be legitimately obtained at level 1, and I think it might be noted on some of the others' pages that they can be legitimately obtained at level 1. Question is though, is it worth mentioning it here? Because it could be slightly irrelevant, as the ability to obtain them at level 1 isn't ''that much'' related to evolution. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 18:50, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
::::Budew can't evolve at level 1 though, which is why Porygon's family is more notable. But, if we were to go with "fully evolved" instead of Porygon's family being able to evolve twice at level 1, then we could throw Budew's family in there. But I'm more in favor of Porygon only. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 20:34, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::Something like "Porygon/Porygon2/Porygon-Z is the only Pokémon that can evolve twice and still be at level 1." might fit nicely. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:45, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::I've reevaluated the relevance and importance of this information and came to the conclusion that it is valuable to players who want to go for the '''highest possible Stats''' for those particular Pokémon.--[[User:Arima|Arima]] 03:38, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::::It's possible to skip Budew altogether. The only way to get it through breeding is through having one parent hold a rose incense. - [[User:Gold Dialga|Gold Dialga]]

== A Generation V image can't be uploaded. ==

I made an image which is about Snivy's evolution, but it can't be uploaded. It says "Error creating thumbnail:". Is it too big? At first it was 2MB, but now it is 830KB but still can't be uploaded. What should I do?
I'm sorry for my poor English.--[[User:847418742|Togekiss of Moon]] 12:13, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

== Trivia ==

Each generation introduces a new method of evolution.
Generation I introduces level-up, trading, and evolutionary stones.
Generation II introduces level-up with high happiness and trading while holding an item.
Generation III introduces level-up with high beauty condition.
Generation IV introduces level-up while knowing a certain move, level-up while holding a certain item, and level-up in a certain location.
Generation V introduces trading for a specific Pokémon. Should I add this to the trivia? [[User:Tk3141|Tk3141]] 22:02, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

== Evolution by level at level 100. ==

As far as I know, an evolution by level is triggered by an actual level-up sequence, thus a level 100 unevolved pokemon can't evolve by level. I couldn't find a mention of this in the article. Is it accurate, and should it be either denied or confirmed by the article? [[User:PLA|PLA]] 10:00, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
:Yes, a level 100 Pokémon that evolves through level-up can't evolve. I don't think that this is important enough to mention though... but that's just my opinion. [[User:Dannyjenn|Dannyjenn]] 02:53, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
::It's implied in the [[Methods of evolution]] article, where it is stated that a Pokémon evolves due to three triggers, when being a level up. Obviously a Lv. 100 Pokémon cannot level up, so can't evolve if leveling up is their trigger. But I wouldn't know where to put it in this article. If the trigger is an [[evolutionary stone]] or a [[trade]], then it still can. [[User:Samjohn95|Sam]][[User talk:Samjohn95|john]][[Special:contributions/Samjohn95|95]] 23:35, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

==Real-world evolution==
"''the existence of "extinct" Pokémon backs this up''"

That's completely wrong. A species becoming extinct has nothing to do with evolution... it only has to do with evolving in the case that one species no longer exists because it became another species (like a mammoth evolving into an elephant). If it's just gone then that means nothing... dinosaurs are extinct and they didn't evolve into anything. Likewise, there's no evidence that the "extinct" Pokémon evolved into something else. They most likely just died out completely unchanged. [[User:Dannyjenn|Dannyjenn]] 03:18, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

== Alternate forms of evolution ==

In Pokemon Snap, a Charmeleon evolves into Charizard if knocked into a vat of lava, and a Magikarp evolves into Gyarados if knocked into a waterfall. I believe these should be added. [[User:Jdrawer|Jdrawer]] ([[User talk:Jdrawer|talk]]) 02:06, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
:Those aren't really conditions. Ash's Charmeleon evolved just because it was angry at an Aerodactyl and wanted to beat it in a fight. Magikarp seem to be able to evolve whenever they feel threatened as well, such as when James kicked his into the ocean in frustration. Evolution conditions aren't limited to how they work in the main games. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 05:17, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

== Halted Evolution - Bug? Safeguard? ==

So I was just playing through LeafGreen here, having a {{p|Beldum}} as my starter *cough*, when I got it to level 20 in Mt. Moon. It stopped evolving, and the only message was "?". Was this maybe because I didn't have the National Pokédex yet? --[[User:GuyPerfect|GuyPerfect]] ([[User talk:GuyPerfect|talk]]) 01:56, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
:In FRLG, to stop you from getting Pokémon like <s>Golbat</s> Crobat and Blissey prior to getting the National Pokédex, any Pokémon evolving into a non-Kanto Pokémon will not evolve if you don't have the National Pokédex. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 02:04, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

== Conquest: Warrior Transformation ==

In Pokémon Conquest, Warrior Transformation is noted as being similar to Pokémon evolution. Does that deserve its own article, or should we make a section here? [[User:Giratina's Embodiment|Giratina's Embodiment]] - [[User talk:Giratina's Embodiment|Please don't hurt us...]] 05:34, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

== Mega Evolution ==

I know it's more of a form change, but I was just wondering how we are handling Mega Evolution. I'm assuming it will get its own page, or at least own section of a page on either here or the form page. I'd assume we should have a list of all Pokemon with Mega Evolution's. If someone's already working on this, I apologize, but I did a search and couldn't find anything.[[User:CoolDudeAl|CoolDudeAl]] ([[User talk:CoolDudeAl|talk]]) 06:22, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
:I think the admins are holding off on making any big decisions about it until we get the English-language information on it, which is expected in a few days. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 07:07, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

==Adding==
I wanted to add one phrase into in other languages section, but it seems the page is locked and I can't edit a thing. Can somebody help me to add "{{tt|perkembangan|evolution in Malay language}}" into the section that I mentioned just now?? Thanks! [[User:Esther Siaw|Esther Siaw]] ([[User talk:Esther Siaw|talk]]) 13:52, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

== Menu sprites for Kalos Pokémon ==

Don't forget to add the menu sprites for the Pokémon introduced in Generation VI, that's because we're up to this generation. [[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ([[User talk:Cinday123|talk]]) 06:28, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

== Goodra ==

Should the method by which Sliggoo evolves into Goodra be mentioned as unique in the Methods section, or does that sort of count as a location-based evolution? -- [[User:EnosShayrem|EnosShayrem]][[User_talk:EnosShayrem|talk]] 06:08, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

:This method is unique, you level up Sliggoo to level 50 and if it's raining in the overworld, it will evolve into Goodra. [[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ''([[User talk:Cinday123|Talk]])'' 07:05, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

::I understand the evolution method, what I was wondering is if it would be categorized as, technically, a location-based evolution since there's only overworld rain in certain areas. I'm just going to add it and it'll be removed if someone important doesn't like it there. -- [[User:EnosShayrem|EnosShayrem]][[User_talk:EnosShayrem|talk]] 08:06, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

== Shedinja and Poké Ball in Generation VI ==

In Generation VI, does Nincada require a Poké Ball in its bag and a spare spot in its party to evolve into Ninjask and Shedinja begins to appear in party? [[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ''([[User talk:Cinday123|Talk]])'' 00:23, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

== Consistency ==

There's little to no consistency among the advantages of branched evolutions. I think one method, such as listing relevant stats or just relevant stat increases, should be used, rather than numerous methods. --[[User:WyndFox|Wynd]] [[User talk:WyndFox|Fox]] 00:48, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

== Semi-Protection ==

Will any staff member semi-protect this page to prevent new users from editing it. --[[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ''([[User talk:Cinday123|Talk]])'' 22:31, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

== Evolution and pokémon types ==

Should i add that that eevee is the only pokémon to completely change types upon evolution (meaning that eevee's type is different from any of the current eevee evolutions), or am I forgetting any other pokémon? Prussiadoge 21:49, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
:Gloom.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 03:33, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
::Gloom is Grass/Poison but Bellossom is pure Grass; it's not a "complete" type-change. [[User:Starscream|Starscream]] ([[User talk:Starscream|talk]]) 20:56, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
:::Yeah, my mistake. I meant Swablu, who goes from Normal/Fairy to Dragon/Fairy. Not sure why I mentioned Gloom.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 03:47, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
::::Dang it, Normal/'''Flying''' to Dragon/Flying. Also, Onix goes from Rock/Ground to Steel/Ground.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 03:54, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
:::::Would it be worthwhile to create a page that lists pokemon that gain/ lose/ change types upon evolution? I searched and couldn't find one that already existed. There's probably enough pokemon amongst those three possibilities that it would be valuable, I think. -[[User:Sandrew26|Sandrew26]] ([[User talk:Sandrew26|talk]]) 16:05, 6 March 2021 (UTC)g
::::::I thought it might be relevant so I made one [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User:Team_Rocket_Grunt&oldid=3337385#Type-changeing_evolution]. Maybe we should make a page about type changing in general?--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket]] [[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Grunt]]''' 18:55, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
:::::::For the future, let's try not to revive these super old threads.

:::::::Apart from that, I can't say I am in support of an entire article dedicated to that. There's already a note on the page about Pokemon sometimes changing types-- I think listing every Pokemon that does so would be a bit much. That's just my opinion though... I'd like to hear others' input. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 17:08, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

== In other generations ==
I managed to make a new "in other generations" section. I don't know, but it could be better than it is here. So maybe we have to use it? It is on the page [[User:Lokki/Evolution New Template]]. Should we use it? Because here there isn't any gen.III image. [[User:Lokki|Lokki]] ([[User talk:Lokki|talk]]) 09:23, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

== Just wondering... ==

I accidentally stopped my Litten from evolving :( Is it possible for it to evolve into Torracat and then into Incineroar afterwards? {{unsigned|Valehd}}
:Yep. That's what "starting at level x" means. --[[User:Raltseye|Raltseye]] [[User talk:Raltseye|prata med mej]] 01:30, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

== Rockruff & Lycanroc ==

Shouldn't Rockruff and day and night Lycanroc be listed as a branch evolution? They are different Pokemon, with different designs and stats. Lunala and Solgaleo are listed as branched evolutions and both day and night Lycanroc evolve for the same reasons they do (being from the version Pokemon Sun or Pokemon Moon).--[[User:Sylveon|Sylveon]] ([[User talk:Sylveon|talk]]) 10:20, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
:Both Lycanroc are forms of the same Pokemon, as indicated by their having the same Pokedex number. Solgaleo and Lunala have different Pokedex numbers. On the other hand, we list all the Wormadam forms separately, so... maybe? It's a weird situation. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 16:42, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
::Burmy also evolves into Mothim, so it's not strictly comparable to Rockruff anyway. Rockruff is weird, yes, but that's entirely on its own "merits". [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 16:46, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

== Page for moves learned through evolution ==

Is there a page listing Pokémon that learn moves when evolving? Caterpie automatically learns Harden regardless of when it evolved, and I wanted to see a list of other examples. [[User:Pallukun|Pallukun]] ([[User talk:Pallukun|talk]]) 19:49, 27 August 2019 (UTC)

:Here: [https://www.serebii.net/sunmoon/evolutionmoves.shtml]. I think Bulbapedia missed to make that kind of list.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket Grunt]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Report To Me]])''' 20:53, 27 August 2019 (UTC)

::Thanks. Should we look into creating a page of this on Bulbapedia? [[User:Pallukun|Pallukun]] ([[User talk:Pallukun|talk]]) 18:18, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

:::I agree.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket Grunt]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Report To Me]])''' 19:20, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
::::Caterpie is no longer a Caterpie when it evolves... so it's not Caterpie that's learning Harden when it evolves...--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 07:01, 29 August 2019 (UTC)

:::::Calm down kid. Everyone knows what he meant. You don't have to nitpick tiny details especially when they aren't much relevant to the topic.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket Grunt]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Report To Me]])''' 10:40, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
::::::Please don't make a massive change without staff approval. I don't think that information would go on this article. Each of the individual Pokemon articles already lists the move it can learn once it evolves in their moveset templates. That's where it goes and it already is.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:54, 29 August 2019 (UTC)

:::::::So... Can I add it?--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket Grunt]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Report To Me]])''' 13:00, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
{{indent}}I absolutely agree that this is relevant information to warrant a page. Honestly, I'm surprised that there wasn't a page for this before. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 21:41, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
:[https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User:Team_Rocket_Grunt&oldid=3017549] {{unsigned|Team Rocket Grunt}}
::I agree, I think we should have that page. The one linked by Rocket Grunt above looks good to me. --[[User:Daniel Carrero|Daniel Carrero]] ([[User talk:Daniel Carrero|talk]]) 09:54, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

== Two methods of evolution ==

Aren't Alolan Rattata and Meowth also having two kinds of evolution? They evolve differently in SMUSUM and LGPE.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket Grunt]] ([[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Report To Me]])''' 10:58, 3 January 2020 (UTC)

== Prof. Elm's research ==

Which game(s) include(s) the information from Professor Elm (about the percentage of Pokḿon connected to at least one other through Evolution)? It would be good to explain why that figure doesn't match the automatically computed one included in the following sentence of the introduction. [[User:Butterfreeism|'''–Butterfreeism''']] ([[User talk:Butterfreeism|talk]]) 02:17, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

== Confusing information ==
Usually, I'd just edit the page myself, but I'm not really sure how to add up the percentages. At the top of the page, it states that Professor Elm's research (in which it's actually Rowan's not Elm's last i checked) states that 90% of all Pokemon are connected through Evolution, but the actual number is 81%, but the trivia section says 90% and '''84%'''. Assuming 81 refers to all Pokemon that are not Legendary or Mythical, this is where the confusing information begins as it says 84 in the trivia. Is the 81 only referring to Pokémon as of Generation 4? I should make note that some dialogue in BDSP had altered text to DP, in reference to future titles that Sinnoh's Legendary Pokemon cannot evolve (not all Legendary Pokemon like in gen 4), meaning the 90% calculation stated earlier in the game is still accurate to some degree. [[User:TrainerSplash|TrainerSplash]] ([[User talk:TrainerSplash|talk]]) 22:44, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
:If you edit the page you'll see how they are calculated. The trivias are outdated because they don't use wiki functions. I'm also pretty sure the "90%" was Rowan's research not Elm's.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket]] [[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Grunt]]''' 23:02, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

== Pokémon Masters and Pokémon UNITE ==

Hi, I've been reading Bulbapedia for years, but I just created this account to point out there's no information about evolution in Pokémon Masters / Pokémon Masters EX in the spin-off section of this article. I'd do it myself but I don't have the eloquence nor the knowledge about writing that kind of content.

There's also the evolution that occurs in Pokémon UNITE.