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Talk:Great Marsh

2015-05-02T15:07:52Z

Olaf: Bait & Mud effects

Somebody in the watchtower mentioned that the pokemon that are there seem different today. Is it possible that the pokemon that appear change from day to day?

:According to Coronis, yes: ''the Safari actually works by randomly generating a pokemon from the 'rare' list for each 6 area each day. the same species can appear in more than 1 areas. according to your list, there seem to be 31 holders, and those that appear more than once, like the Sinnoh ones, are less rare, while the post-National dex Kanto/Johto/Hoenn ones, are rarer since they occupy one holder only'' - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 02:49, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Has anyone done any researching into how the Bait/Mud catching system works? I haven't figured out anything better than just acting randomly, pretty much. [[User:Opaopa13|Opaopa13]] 18:37, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

While playing the game myself, i discovered a rare Carnivine which means that the list of pokemon is incomplete. I added it to the list, but i did not know the percentage.
And by the way, throwing bit makes the pokemon less likely to flee but decreases the accuracy of catching it. Throwing mud makes the pokemon more likely to flee, but it increases the accuracy of catching it. [[User:CBhadha|CBhadha]] 21:57, 25 July 2007
:It's in the Changing Pokémon section. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] ~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]] 02:04, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

I noticed that you can get two 'rare' Pokemon on the same day (crogunk and skorupi), and it was my first time at the marsh. Does anybody know anything about this? [[User:Verity_Lies|Verity_Lies]]

There are a few things that i have found wrong with the lists for platinum i have been able to catch a Carnivine as wall as finding a Skorupi at level 27 even though the range says 20-26, i was also able to find Yanma without it being indicated by the binoculars. I think there may be other anomalies but i haven't encountered them yet. [[User:Bonez565|Bonez565]] 08:40, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
:You might not see Yanma in the binoculars. The article is simply saying that it's the only way of knowing ahead of time, ''if'' the binoculars show it. The Yanma would've been there whether you looked or not, but you simply didn't know before going into the Marsh.—[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 18:16, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
==Carvanha?==
It's possible to catch Carvanha in the Great Marsh with a super rod. How does that fit in? - - - '''[[User:Dra2k4|dra''2k4'']]''' 15:19, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
==Magikarp weirdness==
Okay, two things:
1--After tracking down Skorupi with the 'scope, the encounter rate in the specific area (6) seemed significantly less than the 10% offered... maybe less than 5%?
2--Most interesting, maybe spotted already but it wasn't posted here (and I do apologize in advance if it was already) but I had beyond abnormal difficulties trying to catch wild Magikarp (area 6 again) Using the good rod, I failed to catch ANY Magikarp (6 of them, aroundabouts) usually got them to 2/3 rolls in the ball before breaking out... but when I used the old rod, a level -4- Magikarp broke out -immediately- of the Safari Ball, and two level 5s were also failed to be caught despite 3 balls thrown at them, each. Well over a dozen balls wasted on them all :/

Yet I caught a level 30 Gyarados on my first try... *shrug*

If it helps any, this was all done around 1am in the morning, on Diamond.

--[[User:NotJim|NotJim]] 24 December 2007

Umm...Just asking, but: Why are you trying to catch Magikarp in the Great Marsh in the first place? Go to any waterway in the game, whip out the Old/Good Rod, and you can catch a Magikarp the normal way.
:As for how many balls it takes to catch a Pokémon: The number (and, outside the Safari-type areas, type) of balls you need to go through is completely random; I caught a Giratina (health in the Yellow area) with a Great Ball, after going through about 10-30 Ultra Balls, while I ALMOST RAN OUT of balls trying to catch Rotom. [[User:Diachronos|Diachronos]] 23:06, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
::I tried using ultra balls on a LV. 2 Pidgey. IT WOULDNT WORK. then I tried a regular Poke Ball and "Pidgey was caught!" I dont get it. Ive tried catching other low level-ers with ultra balls and i have the same frusturation. any ideas? [[User:Mooites|Mooites]] 23:42, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

== Huh, say what now? ==

Why is Carnivine on the list of Pokémon found ''NORMALLY'' in the Great Marsh? I thought it was one of them rares. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 11:02, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
:It sometimes appears without being a rare set for the day. Being a rare set just increases it's chance. [[User:Gywall|'''Gywall''']]([[User_talk:Gywall|Talk]]) 11:16, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

== Bait vs Mud ==

"If you throw food at Pokémon, it 
makes them easier to catch... 
But they're also more likely to 
bolt when they eat. 
If you throw mud at them, they 
also get easier to catch... 
But they also get more likely to 
bolt out of anger. 
It's hard to decide what I should 
be doing." 
-- this is said by a man in the Marsh.

This seems to contradict what is written on this page. Can anyone clear this up for me? 
Thanks [[User:Tomw|Tomw]] 23:14, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

:It's probably a translation error. It's mentioned at the bottom of the page. [[User:Flicky|Fli]][[User talk:Flicky|cky]][[User:Flicky/Latin|1991]] 19:58, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

:Note, the text is different in Platinum. He says that bait will make them easier to catch, but more likely to flee, and mud will make them less likely to run (out of anger, he says), but harder to catch. Which is still contradictory to the article. I always thought it was the other way around, but playing in the Great Marsh and trying both out, I believe him. I'm changing it. [[User:Terrane|Terrane]] 16:15, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Out of DPPt, I have only played the Platinum version. I also confirm to what Tomw says and personally, I found that the boy in the marsh is correct and the part in the article is incorrect. If this is also true for Diamond and Platinum, the article needs to be changed. Otherwise it needs to be mentioned that the system is opposite in Platinum.
Thanks
[[User:Ishu Bagaria|Ishu Bagaria]] 21:20 14 November 2010 (UTC)

: I am also playing Platinum version and have experienced some severe frustration with my usual catching strategy -- for example, after throwing two Muds, a Yanma escaped ''six'' Safari Balls before fleeing -- either the Random Number God is out to deprive me of any Safari catches tonight, or today must be Opposite Day. Or maybe the above theory is correct? So, experimenting with it, I successfully threw ... eighteen Muds at a Bibarel before it fled from battle. Yes, ''EIGHTEEN.'' Random Number God may be fickle, but he can't like me ''that'' much, right? By contrast, when I tried throwing Baits instead of Mud, and most wild Pokemon fled from battle after just two. It ''certainly'' appears to me that Platinum's (if not D/P too) Bait/Mud effects are precisely the opposite of normal for Safari Zones.

: PS: Also by contrast, I threw two Bait at a Yanma and then caught it with just one Ball. That's a huge difference from two Muds + six Balls and ''still'' not catching one. --''[[User:Stratelier|Stratelier]] 07:02, 30 April 2011 (UTC)''

::PPS: I found two user FAQs on GameFAQs.com corroborating that the Great Marsh's Bait and Mud mechanics (at least in Platinum) appear to be reversed from other Safari Zones. --''[[User:Stratelier|Stratelier]] 16:02, 30 April 2011 (UTC)''

== Rarity ==

The percentages for each pokemon to be found can be seen by the output of my Encounters Extraction program. The format is:

Game|Section|Slot|Encounter Type|PokeNatID|MinLevel|<MaxLevel>

Slots are like the following:

Slot 0 - 20%

Slot 1 - 20%

Slot 2 - 10%

Slot 3 - 10%

Slot 4 - 10%

Slot 5 - 10%

Slot 6 - 5%

Slot 7 - 5%

Slot 8 - 4%

Slot 9 - 4%

Slot 10 - 1%

Slot 11 - 1%

Surfing/Fishing

Slot 0 - 60%

Slot 1 - 30%

Slot 2 - 5%

Slot 3 - 4%

Slot 4 - 1%

Sections are as follows where 52 is the Great Mash location.

23,52,"Great Marsh [Area 1]"

24,52,"Great Marsh [Area 2]"

25,52,"Great Marsh [Area 3]"

26,52,"Great Marsh [Area 4]"

27,52,"Great Marsh [Area 5]"

28,52,"Great Marsh [Area 6]"

For slots which say night, day, or something other than grass/surf/rods - These are slot replacements. They replace the pokemon that normally occupies that slot and assumes its rarity.

D|P,23,0,grass,194,24

D|P,23,1,grass,400,25

D|P,23,2,grass,406,24

D|P,23,3,grass,396,26

D|P,23,4,grass,183,25

D|P,23,5,grass,195,25

D|P,23,6,grass,183,26

D|P,23,7,grass,195,26

D|P,23,8,grass,54,26

D|P,23,9,grass,54,24

D|P,23,10,grass,399,26

D|P,23,11,grass,298,24

D|P,23,2,night,163

D|P,23,3,night,164

D|P,23,8,gba-firered,24

D|P,23,9,gba-firered,24

D|P,23,0,surfing,194,20,30

D|P,23,1,surfing,183,20,30

D|P,23,2,surfing,195,20,40

D|P,23,3,surfing,54,20,40

D|P,23,4,surfing,54,20,40

D|P,23,0,old-rod,129,4,6

D|P,23,1,old-rod,129,3,7

D|P,23,2,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,23,3,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,23,4,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,23,0,good-rod,129,15,20

D|P,23,1,good-rod,339,15,20

D|P,23,2,good-rod,129,10,25

D|P,23,3,good-rod,130,15,30

D|P,23,4,good-rod,130,15,30

D|P,23,0,super-rod,340,30,55

D|P,23,1,super-rod,318,15,20

D|P,23,2,super-rod,130,40,55

D|P,23,3,super-rod,318,15,30

D|P,23,4,super-rod,318,15,30

Pl,23,0,grass,194,28

Pl,23,1,grass,400,28

Pl,23,2,grass,357,28

Pl,23,3,grass,357,30

Pl,23,4,grass,194,29

Pl,23,5,grass,195,30

Pl,23,6,grass,194,28

Pl,23,7,grass,194,30

Pl,23,8,grass,193,30

Pl,23,9,grass,114,30

Pl,23,10,grass,193,31

Pl,23,11,grass,114,31

Pl,23,2,night,164

Pl,23,3,night,164

Pl,23,6,pokeradar,194

Pl,23,7,pokeradar,195

Pl,23,10,pokeradar,193

Pl,23,11,pokeradar,114

Pl,23,8,gba-firered,24

Pl,23,9,gba-firered,24

Pl,23,0,surfing,194,20,30

Pl,23,1,surfing,194,20,30

Pl,23,2,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,23,3,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,23,4,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,23,0,old-rod,129,3,6

Pl,23,1,old-rod,129,4,7

Pl,23,2,old-rod,129,5,10

Pl,23,3,old-rod,129,5,10

Pl,23,4,old-rod,129,5,15

Pl,23,0,good-rod,129,15,20

Pl,23,1,good-rod,339,15,20

Pl,23,2,good-rod,129,10,25

Pl,23,3,good-rod,339,10,25

Pl,23,4,good-rod,339,10,25

Pl,23,0,super-rod,130,30,55

Pl,23,1,super-rod,318,30,40

Pl,23,2,super-rod,340,20,50

Pl,23,3,super-rod,318,40,55

Pl,23,4,super-rod,318,40,55

D|P,24,0,grass,194,24

D|P,24,1,grass,400,25

D|P,24,2,grass,406,24

D|P,24,3,grass,396,26

D|P,24,4,grass,183,25

D|P,24,5,grass,195,25

D|P,24,6,grass,183,26

D|P,24,7,grass,195,26

D|P,24,8,grass,54,26

D|P,24,9,grass,54,24

D|P,24,10,grass,399,26

D|P,24,11,grass,298,24

D|P,24,2,night,163

D|P,24,3,night,164

D|P,24,8,gba-firered,24

D|P,24,9,gba-firered,24

D|P,24,0,surfing,194,20,30

D|P,24,1,surfing,183,20,30

D|P,24,2,surfing,195,20,40

D|P,24,3,surfing,54,20,40

D|P,24,4,surfing,54,20,40

D|P,24,0,old-rod,129,4,6

D|P,24,1,old-rod,129,3,7

D|P,24,2,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,24,3,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,24,4,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,24,0,good-rod,129,15,20

D|P,24,1,good-rod,339,15,20

D|P,24,2,good-rod,129,10,25

D|P,24,3,good-rod,130,15,30

D|P,24,4,good-rod,130,15,30

D|P,24,0,super-rod,340,30,55

D|P,24,1,super-rod,318,15,20

D|P,24,2,super-rod,130,40,55

D|P,24,3,super-rod,318,15,30

D|P,24,4,super-rod,318,15,30

Pl,24,0,grass,194,28

Pl,24,1,grass,400,28

Pl,24,2,grass,357,28

Pl,24,3,grass,357,30

Pl,24,4,grass,194,29

Pl,24,5,grass,195,30

Pl,24,6,grass,194,28

Pl,24,7,grass,194,30

Pl,24,8,grass,193,30

Pl,24,9,grass,114,30

Pl,24,10,grass,193,31

Pl,24,11,grass,114,31

Pl,24,2,night,164

Pl,24,3,night,164

Pl,24,6,pokeradar,194

Pl,24,7,pokeradar,195

Pl,24,10,pokeradar,193

Pl,24,11,pokeradar,114

Pl,24,8,gba-firered,24

Pl,24,9,gba-firered,24

Pl,24,0,surfing,194,20,30

Pl,24,1,surfing,194,20,30

Pl,24,2,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,24,3,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,24,4,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,24,0,old-rod,129,3,6

Pl,24,1,old-rod,129,4,7

Pl,24,2,old-rod,129,5,10

Pl,24,3,old-rod,129,5,10

Pl,24,4,old-rod,129,5,15

Pl,24,0,good-rod,129,15,20

Pl,24,1,good-rod,339,15,20

Pl,24,2,good-rod,129,10,25

Pl,24,3,good-rod,339,10,25

Pl,24,4,good-rod,339,10,25

Pl,24,0,super-rod,130,30,55

Pl,24,1,super-rod,318,30,40

Pl,24,2,super-rod,340,20,50

Pl,24,3,super-rod,318,40,55

Pl,24,4,super-rod,318,40,55

D|P,25,0,grass,194,22

D|P,25,1,grass,400,23

D|P,25,2,grass,406,22

D|P,25,3,grass,396,24

D|P,25,4,grass,183,23

D|P,25,5,grass,195,23

D|P,25,6,grass,183,24

D|P,25,7,grass,195,24

D|P,25,8,grass,54,24

D|P,25,9,grass,54,22

D|P,25,10,grass,399,24

D|P,25,11,grass,298,22

D|P,25,2,night,163

D|P,25,3,night,163

D|P,25,8,gba-firered,24

D|P,25,9,gba-firered,24

D|P,25,0,surfing,194,20,30

D|P,25,1,surfing,183,20,30

D|P,25,2,surfing,195,20,40

D|P,25,3,surfing,54,20,40

D|P,25,4,surfing,54,20,40

D|P,25,0,old-rod,129,4,6

D|P,25,1,old-rod,129,3,7

D|P,25,2,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,25,3,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,25,4,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,25,0,good-rod,129,15,20

D|P,25,1,good-rod,339,15,20

D|P,25,2,good-rod,129,10,25

D|P,25,3,good-rod,130,15,30

D|P,25,4,good-rod,130,15,30

D|P,25,0,super-rod,340,30,55

D|P,25,1,super-rod,318,15,20

D|P,25,2,super-rod,130,40,55

D|P,25,3,super-rod,318,15,30

D|P,25,4,super-rod,318,15,30

Pl,25,0,grass,194,27

Pl,25,1,grass,400,27

Pl,25,2,grass,400,28

Pl,25,3,grass,114,27

Pl,25,4,grass,114,28

Pl,25,5,grass,195,29

Pl,25,6,grass,194,28

Pl,25,7,grass,194,29

Pl,25,8,grass,193,29

Pl,25,9,grass,114,29

Pl,25,10,grass,193,30

Pl,25,11,grass,114,30

Pl,25,2,night,164

Pl,25,3,night,163

Pl,25,6,pokeradar,114

Pl,25,7,pokeradar,195

Pl,25,10,pokeradar,193

Pl,25,11,pokeradar,114

Pl,25,8,gba-firered,24

Pl,25,9,gba-firered,24

Pl,25,0,surfing,194,20,30

Pl,25,1,surfing,194,20,30

Pl,25,2,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,25,3,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,25,4,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,25,0,old-rod,129,3,6

Pl,25,1,old-rod,129,4,7

Pl,25,2,old-rod,129,5,10

Pl,25,3,old-rod,129,5,10

Pl,25,4,old-rod,129,5,15

Pl,25,0,good-rod,129,15,20

Pl,25,1,good-rod,339,15,20

Pl,25,2,good-rod,129,10,25

Pl,25,3,good-rod,339,10,25

Pl,25,4,good-rod,339,10,25

Pl,25,0,super-rod,130,30,55

Pl,25,1,super-rod,318,30,40

Pl,25,2,super-rod,340,20,50

Pl,25,3,super-rod,318,40,55

Pl,25,4,super-rod,318,40,55

D|P,26,0,grass,194,22

D|P,26,1,grass,400,23

D|P,26,2,grass,406,22

D|P,26,3,grass,396,24

D|P,26,4,grass,183,23

D|P,26,5,grass,195,23

D|P,26,6,grass,183,24

D|P,26,7,grass,195,24

D|P,26,8,grass,54,24

D|P,26,9,grass,54,22

D|P,26,10,grass,399,24

D|P,26,11,grass,298,22

D|P,26,2,night,163

D|P,26,3,night,163

D|P,26,8,gba-firered,24

D|P,26,9,gba-firered,24

D|P,26,0,surfing,194,20,30

D|P,26,1,surfing,183,20,30

D|P,26,2,surfing,195,20,40

D|P,26,3,surfing,54,20,40

D|P,26,4,surfing,54,20,40

D|P,26,0,old-rod,129,4,6

D|P,26,1,old-rod,129,3,7

D|P,26,2,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,26,3,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,26,4,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,26,0,good-rod,129,15,20

D|P,26,1,good-rod,339,15,20

D|P,26,2,good-rod,129,10,25

D|P,26,3,good-rod,130,15,30

D|P,26,4,good-rod,130,15,30

D|P,26,0,super-rod,340,30,55

D|P,26,1,super-rod,318,15,20

D|P,26,2,super-rod,130,40,55

D|P,26,3,super-rod,318,15,30

D|P,26,4,super-rod,318,15,30

Pl,26,0,grass,194,27

Pl,26,1,grass,400,27

Pl,26,2,grass,400,28

Pl,26,3,grass,114,27

Pl,26,4,grass,114,28

Pl,26,5,grass,195,29

Pl,26,6,grass,194,28

Pl,26,7,grass,194,29

Pl,26,8,grass,193,29

Pl,26,9,grass,114,29

Pl,26,10,grass,193,30

Pl,26,11,grass,114,30

Pl,26,2,night,164

Pl,26,3,night,163

Pl,26,6,pokeradar,114

Pl,26,7,pokeradar,195

Pl,26,10,pokeradar,193

Pl,26,11,pokeradar,114

Pl,26,8,gba-firered,24

Pl,26,9,gba-firered,24

Pl,26,0,surfing,194,20,30

Pl,26,1,surfing,194,20,30

Pl,26,2,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,26,3,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,26,4,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,26,0,old-rod,129,3,6

Pl,26,1,old-rod,129,4,7

Pl,26,2,old-rod,129,5,10

Pl,26,3,old-rod,129,5,10

Pl,26,4,old-rod,129,5,15

Pl,26,0,good-rod,129,15,20

Pl,26,1,good-rod,339,15,20

Pl,26,2,good-rod,129,10,25

Pl,26,3,good-rod,339,10,25

Pl,26,4,good-rod,339,10,25

Pl,26,0,super-rod,130,30,55

Pl,26,1,super-rod,318,30,40

Pl,26,2,super-rod,340,20,50

Pl,26,3,super-rod,318,40,55

Pl,26,4,super-rod,318,40,55

D|P,27,0,grass,194,20

D|P,27,1,grass,400,21

D|P,27,2,grass,406,20

D|P,27,3,grass,396,22

D|P,27,4,grass,183,21

D|P,27,5,grass,195,21

D|P,27,6,grass,183,22

D|P,27,7,grass,195,22

D|P,27,8,grass,399,22

D|P,27,9,grass,298,20

D|P,27,10,grass,399,22

D|P,27,11,grass,298,20

D|P,27,2,night,163

D|P,27,3,night,163

D|P,27,8,gba-firered,24

D|P,27,9,gba-firered,24

Pl,27,0,grass,194,26

Pl,27,1,grass,400,26

Pl,27,2,grass,400,27

Pl,27,3,grass,193,26

Pl,27,4,grass,193,27

Pl,27,5,grass,195,28

Pl,27,6,grass,194,27

Pl,27,7,grass,194,28

Pl,27,8,grass,193,28

Pl,27,9,grass,114,28

Pl,27,10,grass,193,29

Pl,27,11,grass,114,29

Pl,27,2,night,163

Pl,27,3,night,163

Pl,27,6,pokeradar,193

Pl,27,7,pokeradar,195

Pl,27,10,pokeradar,193

Pl,27,11,pokeradar,114

Pl,27,8,gba-firered,24

Pl,27,9,gba-firered,24

Pl,27,0,surfing,194,20,30

Pl,27,1,surfing,194,20,30

Pl,27,2,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,27,3,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,27,4,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,27,0,old-rod,129,3,6

Pl,27,1,old-rod,129,4,7

Pl,27,2,old-rod,129,5,10

Pl,27,3,old-rod,129,5,10

Pl,27,4,old-rod,129,5,15

Pl,27,0,good-rod,129,15,20

Pl,27,1,good-rod,339,15,20

Pl,27,2,good-rod,129,10,25

Pl,27,3,good-rod,339,10,25

Pl,27,4,good-rod,339,10,25

Pl,27,0,super-rod,130,30,55

Pl,27,1,super-rod,318,30,40

Pl,27,2,super-rod,340,20,50

Pl,27,3,super-rod,318,40,55

Pl,27,4,super-rod,318,40,55

D|P,28,0,grass,194,20

D|P,28,1,grass,400,21

D|P,28,2,grass,406,20

D|P,28,3,grass,396,22

D|P,28,4,grass,183,21

D|P,28,5,grass,195,21

D|P,28,6,grass,183,22

D|P,28,7,grass,195,22

D|P,28,8,grass,54,22

D|P,28,9,grass,54,20

D|P,28,10,grass,399,22

D|P,28,11,grass,298,20

D|P,28,2,night,163

D|P,28,3,night,163

D|P,28,8,gba-firered,24

D|P,28,9,gba-firered,24

D|P,28,0,surfing,194,20,30

D|P,28,1,surfing,183,20,30

D|P,28,2,surfing,195,20,40

D|P,28,3,surfing,54,20,40

D|P,28,4,surfing,54,20,40

D|P,28,0,old-rod,129,4,6

D|P,28,1,old-rod,129,3,7

D|P,28,2,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,28,3,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,28,4,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,28,0,good-rod,129,15,20

D|P,28,1,good-rod,339,15,20

D|P,28,2,good-rod,129,10,25

D|P,28,3,good-rod,130,15,30

D|P,28,4,good-rod,130,15,30

D|P,28,0,super-rod,340,30,55

D|P,28,1,super-rod,318,15,20

D|P,28,2,super-rod,130,40,55

D|P,28,3,super-rod,318,15,30

D|P,28,4,super-rod,318,15,30

Pl,28,0,grass,194,26

Pl,28,1,grass,400,26

Pl,28,2,grass,400,27

Pl,28,3,grass,193,26

Pl,28,4,grass,193,27

Pl,28,5,grass,195,28

Pl,28,6,grass,194,27

Pl,28,7,grass,194,28

Pl,28,8,grass,193,28

Pl,28,9,grass,114,28

Pl,28,10,grass,193,29

Pl,28,11,grass,114,29

Pl,28,2,night,163

Pl,28,3,night,163

Pl,28,6,pokeradar,193

Pl,28,7,pokeradar,195

Pl,28,10,pokeradar,193

Pl,28,11,pokeradar,114

Pl,28,8,gba-firered,24

Pl,28,9,gba-firered,24

Pl,28,0,surfing,194,20,30

Pl,28,1,surfing,194,20,30

Pl,28,2,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,28,3,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,28,4,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,28,0,old-rod,129,3,6

Pl,28,1,old-rod,129,4,7

Pl,28,2,old-rod,129,5,10

Pl,28,3,old-rod,129,5,10

Pl,28,4,old-rod,129,5,15

Pl,28,0,good-rod,129,15,20

Pl,28,1,good-rod,339,15,20

Pl,28,2,good-rod,129,10,25

Pl,28,3,good-rod,339,10,25

Pl,28,4,good-rod,339,10,25

Pl,28,0,super-rod,130,30,55

Pl,28,1,super-rod,318,30,40

Pl,28,2,super-rod,340,20,50

Pl,28,3,super-rod,318,40,55

Pl,28,4,super-rod,318,40,55

You can tell from this data that there are descrete levels and rarities which change between the different areas.
This mistake has been made throughout all of bulbapedia's location project.
I will get the daily great marsh zone pokemon rarities later.
[[User:Sabresite|Sabresite]] 03:13, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
:Can you put that in the chart format which we have? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:23, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
::Yes when I get time, I will do this. I posted the long spam so that someone who has the time, can do it for me. If a pokemon appears multiple times with the same level, simply add the percentages for each slot and that is the total rarity. Keep in mind that rarity changes from night to day, or with the dongles present. [[User:Sabresite|Sabresite]] 03:39, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

== Platinum ==

Err, should the article mention that the place was redesigned in Platinum? The rough layout is the same (the railway tracks and platforms are still there, and it's still the same size and shape), but a lot of little details have been changed. The mud also looks a lot different (there are light and dark patches indicating where you can walk without falling) and it actually has unique grass-in-mud graphics too. All in all it's substantially nicer. [[User:Darien Shields|Darien Shields]] 12:30, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

==Drapion!==

I caught a Drapion in my Platinum copy, and it doesn't say so in the article!! :P [[User:YukitoOoO|YukitoOoO]] 00:10, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

== Toxicroak! ==

I caught a Toxicroak in my Platinum version just as YukitoOoO caught a Drapion in their Platinum version. --[[User:Kamikami|Kamikami]] 00:26, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

== Carvanha ==

I keep finding low lvl (16-20) Carvanha in the safarizone. im sing a super rod, yet it says on the list they 30+.i havent found 1 over 20. shold this be mentioned?--[[User:Ben7229|Ben7229]] 21:50, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

== Merge the platinum pre-national list? ==

Why is the set of three additional Pokémon available in platinum before the national Pokédex given it's own list? The availability marks should be enough. [[User:Kendai|~Kendai]] 10:03, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
:To signify the difference? Because someone was lazy when Pt came out? Change it if you want - it's a wiki, after all. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:24, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

== Shards in Platinum ==

Um, the Ace Trainer (or guy with green hair) doesn't just give you a green shard (he just gave me a blue shard today). He gives you a random shard each day, think someone should correct that. ----[[User:NateVirus|NateVirus]]''([[User talk:NateVirus|Talk]]''|''[[Special:Contributions/NateVirus|Contributions]]'') 03:13, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

== Item list is lousy. ==

Someone needs to redo the list of items and where they are located for those who play platinum. I tried to use it, and almost nothing was where it said it would be. Some I couldn't find at all. Will someone please fix this. I would, but I can't remember where I found items and what they were. All I remember is that the Rare candy was the only item that was where the list said it would be. Someone also needs to change the map to one that shows the layout of the marsh in Platinum.--[[User:Toolen|Toolen]] ([[User talk:Toolen|talk]]) 22:32, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

==Quick Tram==
Should an area be added for the Quick Tram?[[User:152105|152105]] ([[User talk:152105|talk]]) 20:18, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

== Variable Pokémon reloadable? ==

I am attempting to complete my Pokédex, and was wondering whether you can manipulate the Pokémon that appear like you can with the Trophy Garden, or just have to wait a day like with Swarms. Also, either way, could someone add it to the page? (I don't see it there) Bookwyrm1357 06:55, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
:I'm not sure if this will work, but you may get different Pokemon if you set your DS's clock a day forward if you find the current Pokemon in the marsh are not what you want. --[[User:NOBODY|NOBODY]] ([[User talk:NOBODY|talk]]) 19:43, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
::The way daily events often work, you could probably save during one day, and, until you actually save again when it's a new day, you can load and reset your game as often as you need to until the right Pokemon is appearing. You could try that. If you mess with the clock, I think it makes you wait a day anyway until you can do time-based events again. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 20:11, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

== Bait & Mud effects - an experiment ==

There is definitely something wrong regarding the effects of bait and mud, at least in Pearl/Diamond. Empirically, I have been surprised to see my catch rate go down trying to apply what was written here (bait makes them stay, mud makes them easier to catch). It's also the exact opposite of what a boy NPC in the Marsh says.

Catch rate is hard to test since you would have to throw a set number of mudballs/baits to test it reliably. The more you want, the more relevant the results will be, but the harder it'll be to get there (because the pokémon is likely to flee before that most of the time). However, fleeing rate is easier to test, so that's what I've done.

Pearl European cartridge. I've made two trips to the Great Marsh using alternately baits and mud on every pokémon encounter. I've counted how many of each I could throw before the pokémon flees. One is supposed to make it harder after each throw while the other should make it more increasingly more likely.

Results here : [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19K3QQFYOT0Npm_YVaYKQzQSWHhhWZ9cGJ-Atpz6ePDk/edit?usp=sharing]

Not surprisingly, short encounters are present in both case, because the first few throws have not changed the flee rate enough to make a huge difference. However, every long string (more than 5 throws) happens ''only'' with mud. Yes, this is really 42 mudballs for a Marill and more than 50 for a Bibarel (at this point I just stopped, as it was clear the probability was quite low).

Escape rate is apparently 60 for Bibarel, so without any modifier the probability to not flee is (255-60)/255 (about 76%). If I'm not mistaken (new to stat stages), and if mud increase that value by one stage each turn until it's at +6, it means the probability to get that 50 times in a row is :

(255-60)/255 * (255-90)/255 * (255-120)/255 * (255-150)/255 * (255-180)/255 * (255-210)/255 * ((255-240)/255)^44 = 4.058091e-57

which is less likely than winning 7 times the great prize at the national lottery in my country.

If mud decreases that value, we get :

(255-60)/255 * (255-39)/255 * (255-30)/255 * (255-24)/255 * (255-19)/255 * (255-17)/255 * ((255-15)/255)^44 = 0.03104970184

3%. Got "lucky" I guess, but reasonable, this is after 94 tries after all.

So yeah, after this I am pretty sure mud make them less likely to flee.
--[[User:Olaf|Olaf]] ([[User talk:Olaf|talk]]) 15:07, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Great Marsh

2015-05-02T10:20:30Z

Olaf: /* Bait vs Mud */

Somebody in the watchtower mentioned that the pokemon that are there seem different today. Is it possible that the pokemon that appear change from day to day?

:According to Coronis, yes: ''the Safari actually works by randomly generating a pokemon from the 'rare' list for each 6 area each day. the same species can appear in more than 1 areas. according to your list, there seem to be 31 holders, and those that appear more than once, like the Sinnoh ones, are less rare, while the post-National dex Kanto/Johto/Hoenn ones, are rarer since they occupy one holder only'' - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 02:49, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Has anyone done any researching into how the Bait/Mud catching system works? I haven't figured out anything better than just acting randomly, pretty much. [[User:Opaopa13|Opaopa13]] 18:37, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

While playing the game myself, i discovered a rare Carnivine which means that the list of pokemon is incomplete. I added it to the list, but i did not know the percentage.
And by the way, throwing bit makes the pokemon less likely to flee but decreases the accuracy of catching it. Throwing mud makes the pokemon more likely to flee, but it increases the accuracy of catching it. [[User:CBhadha|CBhadha]] 21:57, 25 July 2007
:It's in the Changing Pokémon section. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] ~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]] 02:04, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

I noticed that you can get two 'rare' Pokemon on the same day (crogunk and skorupi), and it was my first time at the marsh. Does anybody know anything about this? [[User:Verity_Lies|Verity_Lies]]

There are a few things that i have found wrong with the lists for platinum i have been able to catch a Carnivine as wall as finding a Skorupi at level 27 even though the range says 20-26, i was also able to find Yanma without it being indicated by the binoculars. I think there may be other anomalies but i haven't encountered them yet. [[User:Bonez565|Bonez565]] 08:40, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
:You might not see Yanma in the binoculars. The article is simply saying that it's the only way of knowing ahead of time, ''if'' the binoculars show it. The Yanma would've been there whether you looked or not, but you simply didn't know before going into the Marsh.—[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 18:16, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
==Carvanha?==
It's possible to catch Carvanha in the Great Marsh with a super rod. How does that fit in? - - - '''[[User:Dra2k4|dra''2k4'']]''' 15:19, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
==Magikarp weirdness==
Okay, two things:
1--After tracking down Skorupi with the 'scope, the encounter rate in the specific area (6) seemed significantly less than the 10% offered... maybe less than 5%?
2--Most interesting, maybe spotted already but it wasn't posted here (and I do apologize in advance if it was already) but I had beyond abnormal difficulties trying to catch wild Magikarp (area 6 again) Using the good rod, I failed to catch ANY Magikarp (6 of them, aroundabouts) usually got them to 2/3 rolls in the ball before breaking out... but when I used the old rod, a level -4- Magikarp broke out -immediately- of the Safari Ball, and two level 5s were also failed to be caught despite 3 balls thrown at them, each. Well over a dozen balls wasted on them all :/

Yet I caught a level 30 Gyarados on my first try... *shrug*

If it helps any, this was all done around 1am in the morning, on Diamond.

--[[User:NotJim|NotJim]] 24 December 2007

Umm...Just asking, but: Why are you trying to catch Magikarp in the Great Marsh in the first place? Go to any waterway in the game, whip out the Old/Good Rod, and you can catch a Magikarp the normal way.
:As for how many balls it takes to catch a Pokémon: The number (and, outside the Safari-type areas, type) of balls you need to go through is completely random; I caught a Giratina (health in the Yellow area) with a Great Ball, after going through about 10-30 Ultra Balls, while I ALMOST RAN OUT of balls trying to catch Rotom. [[User:Diachronos|Diachronos]] 23:06, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
::I tried using ultra balls on a LV. 2 Pidgey. IT WOULDNT WORK. then I tried a regular Poke Ball and "Pidgey was caught!" I dont get it. Ive tried catching other low level-ers with ultra balls and i have the same frusturation. any ideas? [[User:Mooites|Mooites]] 23:42, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

== Huh, say what now? ==

Why is Carnivine on the list of Pokémon found ''NORMALLY'' in the Great Marsh? I thought it was one of them rares. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 11:02, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
:It sometimes appears without being a rare set for the day. Being a rare set just increases it's chance. [[User:Gywall|'''Gywall''']]([[User_talk:Gywall|Talk]]) 11:16, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

== Bait vs Mud ==

"If you throw food at Pokémon, it 
makes them easier to catch... 
But they're also more likely to 
bolt when they eat. 
If you throw mud at them, they 
also get easier to catch... 
But they also get more likely to 
bolt out of anger. 
It's hard to decide what I should 
be doing." 
-- this is said by a man in the Marsh.

This seems to contradict what is written on this page. Can anyone clear this up for me? 
Thanks [[User:Tomw|Tomw]] 23:14, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

:It's probably a translation error. It's mentioned at the bottom of the page. [[User:Flicky|Fli]][[User talk:Flicky|cky]][[User:Flicky/Latin|1991]] 19:58, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

:Note, the text is different in Platinum. He says that bait will make them easier to catch, but more likely to flee, and mud will make them less likely to run (out of anger, he says), but harder to catch. Which is still contradictory to the article. I always thought it was the other way around, but playing in the Great Marsh and trying both out, I believe him. I'm changing it. [[User:Terrane|Terrane]] 16:15, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Out of DPPt, I have only played the Platinum version. I also confirm to what Tomw says and personally, I found that the boy in the marsh is correct and the part in the article is incorrect. If this is also true for Diamond and Platinum, the article needs to be changed. Otherwise it needs to be mentioned that the system is opposite in Platinum.
Thanks
[[User:Ishu Bagaria|Ishu Bagaria]] 21:20 14 November 2010 (UTC)

: I am pretty sure the NPC is right(on Pearl at least). A pokémon can be thrown 6-7 balls of mud without fleeing but will be made nearly uncatchable, while it's rare to be able to throw baits more than three times before the pokémon flees, however catch is nearly guaranteed at that point. Tested on countless Bibarels... --''[[User:Olaf|Olaf]] ([[User talk:Olaf|talk]]) 10:19, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

: I am also playing Platinum version and have experienced some severe frustration with my usual catching strategy -- for example, after throwing two Muds, a Yanma escaped ''six'' Safari Balls before fleeing -- either the Random Number God is out to deprive me of any Safari catches tonight, or today must be Opposite Day. Or maybe the above theory is correct? So, experimenting with it, I successfully threw ... eighteen Muds at a Bibarel before it fled from battle. Yes, ''EIGHTEEN.'' Random Number God may be fickle, but he can't like me ''that'' much, right? By contrast, when I tried throwing Baits instead of Mud, and most wild Pokemon fled from battle after just two. It ''certainly'' appears to me that Platinum's (if not D/P too) Bait/Mud effects are precisely the opposite of normal for Safari Zones.

: PS: Also by contrast, I threw two Bait at a Yanma and then caught it with just one Ball. That's a huge difference from two Muds + six Balls and ''still'' not catching one. --''[[User:Stratelier|Stratelier]] 07:02, 30 April 2011 (UTC)''

::PPS: I found two user FAQs on GameFAQs.com corroborating that the Great Marsh's Bait and Mud mechanics (at least in Platinum) appear to be reversed from other Safari Zones. --''[[User:Stratelier|Stratelier]] 16:02, 30 April 2011 (UTC)''

== Rarity ==

The percentages for each pokemon to be found can be seen by the output of my Encounters Extraction program. The format is:

Game|Section|Slot|Encounter Type|PokeNatID|MinLevel|<MaxLevel>

Slots are like the following:

Slot 0 - 20%

Slot 1 - 20%

Slot 2 - 10%

Slot 3 - 10%

Slot 4 - 10%

Slot 5 - 10%

Slot 6 - 5%

Slot 7 - 5%

Slot 8 - 4%

Slot 9 - 4%

Slot 10 - 1%

Slot 11 - 1%

Surfing/Fishing

Slot 0 - 60%

Slot 1 - 30%

Slot 2 - 5%

Slot 3 - 4%

Slot 4 - 1%

Sections are as follows where 52 is the Great Mash location.

23,52,"Great Marsh [Area 1]"

24,52,"Great Marsh [Area 2]"

25,52,"Great Marsh [Area 3]"

26,52,"Great Marsh [Area 4]"

27,52,"Great Marsh [Area 5]"

28,52,"Great Marsh [Area 6]"

For slots which say night, day, or something other than grass/surf/rods - These are slot replacements. They replace the pokemon that normally occupies that slot and assumes its rarity.

D|P,23,0,grass,194,24

D|P,23,1,grass,400,25

D|P,23,2,grass,406,24

D|P,23,3,grass,396,26

D|P,23,4,grass,183,25

D|P,23,5,grass,195,25

D|P,23,6,grass,183,26

D|P,23,7,grass,195,26

D|P,23,8,grass,54,26

D|P,23,9,grass,54,24

D|P,23,10,grass,399,26

D|P,23,11,grass,298,24

D|P,23,2,night,163

D|P,23,3,night,164

D|P,23,8,gba-firered,24

D|P,23,9,gba-firered,24

D|P,23,0,surfing,194,20,30

D|P,23,1,surfing,183,20,30

D|P,23,2,surfing,195,20,40

D|P,23,3,surfing,54,20,40

D|P,23,4,surfing,54,20,40

D|P,23,0,old-rod,129,4,6

D|P,23,1,old-rod,129,3,7

D|P,23,2,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,23,3,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,23,4,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,23,0,good-rod,129,15,20

D|P,23,1,good-rod,339,15,20

D|P,23,2,good-rod,129,10,25

D|P,23,3,good-rod,130,15,30

D|P,23,4,good-rod,130,15,30

D|P,23,0,super-rod,340,30,55

D|P,23,1,super-rod,318,15,20

D|P,23,2,super-rod,130,40,55

D|P,23,3,super-rod,318,15,30

D|P,23,4,super-rod,318,15,30

Pl,23,0,grass,194,28

Pl,23,1,grass,400,28

Pl,23,2,grass,357,28

Pl,23,3,grass,357,30

Pl,23,4,grass,194,29

Pl,23,5,grass,195,30

Pl,23,6,grass,194,28

Pl,23,7,grass,194,30

Pl,23,8,grass,193,30

Pl,23,9,grass,114,30

Pl,23,10,grass,193,31

Pl,23,11,grass,114,31

Pl,23,2,night,164

Pl,23,3,night,164

Pl,23,6,pokeradar,194

Pl,23,7,pokeradar,195

Pl,23,10,pokeradar,193

Pl,23,11,pokeradar,114

Pl,23,8,gba-firered,24

Pl,23,9,gba-firered,24

Pl,23,0,surfing,194,20,30

Pl,23,1,surfing,194,20,30

Pl,23,2,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,23,3,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,23,4,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,23,0,old-rod,129,3,6

Pl,23,1,old-rod,129,4,7

Pl,23,2,old-rod,129,5,10

Pl,23,3,old-rod,129,5,10

Pl,23,4,old-rod,129,5,15

Pl,23,0,good-rod,129,15,20

Pl,23,1,good-rod,339,15,20

Pl,23,2,good-rod,129,10,25

Pl,23,3,good-rod,339,10,25

Pl,23,4,good-rod,339,10,25

Pl,23,0,super-rod,130,30,55

Pl,23,1,super-rod,318,30,40

Pl,23,2,super-rod,340,20,50

Pl,23,3,super-rod,318,40,55

Pl,23,4,super-rod,318,40,55

D|P,24,0,grass,194,24

D|P,24,1,grass,400,25

D|P,24,2,grass,406,24

D|P,24,3,grass,396,26

D|P,24,4,grass,183,25

D|P,24,5,grass,195,25

D|P,24,6,grass,183,26

D|P,24,7,grass,195,26

D|P,24,8,grass,54,26

D|P,24,9,grass,54,24

D|P,24,10,grass,399,26

D|P,24,11,grass,298,24

D|P,24,2,night,163

D|P,24,3,night,164

D|P,24,8,gba-firered,24

D|P,24,9,gba-firered,24

D|P,24,0,surfing,194,20,30

D|P,24,1,surfing,183,20,30

D|P,24,2,surfing,195,20,40

D|P,24,3,surfing,54,20,40

D|P,24,4,surfing,54,20,40

D|P,24,0,old-rod,129,4,6

D|P,24,1,old-rod,129,3,7

D|P,24,2,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,24,3,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,24,4,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,24,0,good-rod,129,15,20

D|P,24,1,good-rod,339,15,20

D|P,24,2,good-rod,129,10,25

D|P,24,3,good-rod,130,15,30

D|P,24,4,good-rod,130,15,30

D|P,24,0,super-rod,340,30,55

D|P,24,1,super-rod,318,15,20

D|P,24,2,super-rod,130,40,55

D|P,24,3,super-rod,318,15,30

D|P,24,4,super-rod,318,15,30

Pl,24,0,grass,194,28

Pl,24,1,grass,400,28

Pl,24,2,grass,357,28

Pl,24,3,grass,357,30

Pl,24,4,grass,194,29

Pl,24,5,grass,195,30

Pl,24,6,grass,194,28

Pl,24,7,grass,194,30

Pl,24,8,grass,193,30

Pl,24,9,grass,114,30

Pl,24,10,grass,193,31

Pl,24,11,grass,114,31

Pl,24,2,night,164

Pl,24,3,night,164

Pl,24,6,pokeradar,194

Pl,24,7,pokeradar,195

Pl,24,10,pokeradar,193

Pl,24,11,pokeradar,114

Pl,24,8,gba-firered,24

Pl,24,9,gba-firered,24

Pl,24,0,surfing,194,20,30

Pl,24,1,surfing,194,20,30

Pl,24,2,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,24,3,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,24,4,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,24,0,old-rod,129,3,6

Pl,24,1,old-rod,129,4,7

Pl,24,2,old-rod,129,5,10

Pl,24,3,old-rod,129,5,10

Pl,24,4,old-rod,129,5,15

Pl,24,0,good-rod,129,15,20

Pl,24,1,good-rod,339,15,20

Pl,24,2,good-rod,129,10,25

Pl,24,3,good-rod,339,10,25

Pl,24,4,good-rod,339,10,25

Pl,24,0,super-rod,130,30,55

Pl,24,1,super-rod,318,30,40

Pl,24,2,super-rod,340,20,50

Pl,24,3,super-rod,318,40,55

Pl,24,4,super-rod,318,40,55

D|P,25,0,grass,194,22

D|P,25,1,grass,400,23

D|P,25,2,grass,406,22

D|P,25,3,grass,396,24

D|P,25,4,grass,183,23

D|P,25,5,grass,195,23

D|P,25,6,grass,183,24

D|P,25,7,grass,195,24

D|P,25,8,grass,54,24

D|P,25,9,grass,54,22

D|P,25,10,grass,399,24

D|P,25,11,grass,298,22

D|P,25,2,night,163

D|P,25,3,night,163

D|P,25,8,gba-firered,24

D|P,25,9,gba-firered,24

D|P,25,0,surfing,194,20,30

D|P,25,1,surfing,183,20,30

D|P,25,2,surfing,195,20,40

D|P,25,3,surfing,54,20,40

D|P,25,4,surfing,54,20,40

D|P,25,0,old-rod,129,4,6

D|P,25,1,old-rod,129,3,7

D|P,25,2,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,25,3,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,25,4,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,25,0,good-rod,129,15,20

D|P,25,1,good-rod,339,15,20

D|P,25,2,good-rod,129,10,25

D|P,25,3,good-rod,130,15,30

D|P,25,4,good-rod,130,15,30

D|P,25,0,super-rod,340,30,55

D|P,25,1,super-rod,318,15,20

D|P,25,2,super-rod,130,40,55

D|P,25,3,super-rod,318,15,30

D|P,25,4,super-rod,318,15,30

Pl,25,0,grass,194,27

Pl,25,1,grass,400,27

Pl,25,2,grass,400,28

Pl,25,3,grass,114,27

Pl,25,4,grass,114,28

Pl,25,5,grass,195,29

Pl,25,6,grass,194,28

Pl,25,7,grass,194,29

Pl,25,8,grass,193,29

Pl,25,9,grass,114,29

Pl,25,10,grass,193,30

Pl,25,11,grass,114,30

Pl,25,2,night,164

Pl,25,3,night,163

Pl,25,6,pokeradar,114

Pl,25,7,pokeradar,195

Pl,25,10,pokeradar,193

Pl,25,11,pokeradar,114

Pl,25,8,gba-firered,24

Pl,25,9,gba-firered,24

Pl,25,0,surfing,194,20,30

Pl,25,1,surfing,194,20,30

Pl,25,2,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,25,3,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,25,4,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,25,0,old-rod,129,3,6

Pl,25,1,old-rod,129,4,7

Pl,25,2,old-rod,129,5,10

Pl,25,3,old-rod,129,5,10

Pl,25,4,old-rod,129,5,15

Pl,25,0,good-rod,129,15,20

Pl,25,1,good-rod,339,15,20

Pl,25,2,good-rod,129,10,25

Pl,25,3,good-rod,339,10,25

Pl,25,4,good-rod,339,10,25

Pl,25,0,super-rod,130,30,55

Pl,25,1,super-rod,318,30,40

Pl,25,2,super-rod,340,20,50

Pl,25,3,super-rod,318,40,55

Pl,25,4,super-rod,318,40,55

D|P,26,0,grass,194,22

D|P,26,1,grass,400,23

D|P,26,2,grass,406,22

D|P,26,3,grass,396,24

D|P,26,4,grass,183,23

D|P,26,5,grass,195,23

D|P,26,6,grass,183,24

D|P,26,7,grass,195,24

D|P,26,8,grass,54,24

D|P,26,9,grass,54,22

D|P,26,10,grass,399,24

D|P,26,11,grass,298,22

D|P,26,2,night,163

D|P,26,3,night,163

D|P,26,8,gba-firered,24

D|P,26,9,gba-firered,24

D|P,26,0,surfing,194,20,30

D|P,26,1,surfing,183,20,30

D|P,26,2,surfing,195,20,40

D|P,26,3,surfing,54,20,40

D|P,26,4,surfing,54,20,40

D|P,26,0,old-rod,129,4,6

D|P,26,1,old-rod,129,3,7

D|P,26,2,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,26,3,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,26,4,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,26,0,good-rod,129,15,20

D|P,26,1,good-rod,339,15,20

D|P,26,2,good-rod,129,10,25

D|P,26,3,good-rod,130,15,30

D|P,26,4,good-rod,130,15,30

D|P,26,0,super-rod,340,30,55

D|P,26,1,super-rod,318,15,20

D|P,26,2,super-rod,130,40,55

D|P,26,3,super-rod,318,15,30

D|P,26,4,super-rod,318,15,30

Pl,26,0,grass,194,27

Pl,26,1,grass,400,27

Pl,26,2,grass,400,28

Pl,26,3,grass,114,27

Pl,26,4,grass,114,28

Pl,26,5,grass,195,29

Pl,26,6,grass,194,28

Pl,26,7,grass,194,29

Pl,26,8,grass,193,29

Pl,26,9,grass,114,29

Pl,26,10,grass,193,30

Pl,26,11,grass,114,30

Pl,26,2,night,164

Pl,26,3,night,163

Pl,26,6,pokeradar,114

Pl,26,7,pokeradar,195

Pl,26,10,pokeradar,193

Pl,26,11,pokeradar,114

Pl,26,8,gba-firered,24

Pl,26,9,gba-firered,24

Pl,26,0,surfing,194,20,30

Pl,26,1,surfing,194,20,30

Pl,26,2,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,26,3,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,26,4,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,26,0,old-rod,129,3,6

Pl,26,1,old-rod,129,4,7

Pl,26,2,old-rod,129,5,10

Pl,26,3,old-rod,129,5,10

Pl,26,4,old-rod,129,5,15

Pl,26,0,good-rod,129,15,20

Pl,26,1,good-rod,339,15,20

Pl,26,2,good-rod,129,10,25

Pl,26,3,good-rod,339,10,25

Pl,26,4,good-rod,339,10,25

Pl,26,0,super-rod,130,30,55

Pl,26,1,super-rod,318,30,40

Pl,26,2,super-rod,340,20,50

Pl,26,3,super-rod,318,40,55

Pl,26,4,super-rod,318,40,55

D|P,27,0,grass,194,20

D|P,27,1,grass,400,21

D|P,27,2,grass,406,20

D|P,27,3,grass,396,22

D|P,27,4,grass,183,21

D|P,27,5,grass,195,21

D|P,27,6,grass,183,22

D|P,27,7,grass,195,22

D|P,27,8,grass,399,22

D|P,27,9,grass,298,20

D|P,27,10,grass,399,22

D|P,27,11,grass,298,20

D|P,27,2,night,163

D|P,27,3,night,163

D|P,27,8,gba-firered,24

D|P,27,9,gba-firered,24

Pl,27,0,grass,194,26

Pl,27,1,grass,400,26

Pl,27,2,grass,400,27

Pl,27,3,grass,193,26

Pl,27,4,grass,193,27

Pl,27,5,grass,195,28

Pl,27,6,grass,194,27

Pl,27,7,grass,194,28

Pl,27,8,grass,193,28

Pl,27,9,grass,114,28

Pl,27,10,grass,193,29

Pl,27,11,grass,114,29

Pl,27,2,night,163

Pl,27,3,night,163

Pl,27,6,pokeradar,193

Pl,27,7,pokeradar,195

Pl,27,10,pokeradar,193

Pl,27,11,pokeradar,114

Pl,27,8,gba-firered,24

Pl,27,9,gba-firered,24

Pl,27,0,surfing,194,20,30

Pl,27,1,surfing,194,20,30

Pl,27,2,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,27,3,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,27,4,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,27,0,old-rod,129,3,6

Pl,27,1,old-rod,129,4,7

Pl,27,2,old-rod,129,5,10

Pl,27,3,old-rod,129,5,10

Pl,27,4,old-rod,129,5,15

Pl,27,0,good-rod,129,15,20

Pl,27,1,good-rod,339,15,20

Pl,27,2,good-rod,129,10,25

Pl,27,3,good-rod,339,10,25

Pl,27,4,good-rod,339,10,25

Pl,27,0,super-rod,130,30,55

Pl,27,1,super-rod,318,30,40

Pl,27,2,super-rod,340,20,50

Pl,27,3,super-rod,318,40,55

Pl,27,4,super-rod,318,40,55

D|P,28,0,grass,194,20

D|P,28,1,grass,400,21

D|P,28,2,grass,406,20

D|P,28,3,grass,396,22

D|P,28,4,grass,183,21

D|P,28,5,grass,195,21

D|P,28,6,grass,183,22

D|P,28,7,grass,195,22

D|P,28,8,grass,54,22

D|P,28,9,grass,54,20

D|P,28,10,grass,399,22

D|P,28,11,grass,298,20

D|P,28,2,night,163

D|P,28,3,night,163

D|P,28,8,gba-firered,24

D|P,28,9,gba-firered,24

D|P,28,0,surfing,194,20,30

D|P,28,1,surfing,183,20,30

D|P,28,2,surfing,195,20,40

D|P,28,3,surfing,54,20,40

D|P,28,4,surfing,54,20,40

D|P,28,0,old-rod,129,4,6

D|P,28,1,old-rod,129,3,7

D|P,28,2,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,28,3,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,28,4,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,28,0,good-rod,129,15,20

D|P,28,1,good-rod,339,15,20

D|P,28,2,good-rod,129,10,25

D|P,28,3,good-rod,130,15,30

D|P,28,4,good-rod,130,15,30

D|P,28,0,super-rod,340,30,55

D|P,28,1,super-rod,318,15,20

D|P,28,2,super-rod,130,40,55

D|P,28,3,super-rod,318,15,30

D|P,28,4,super-rod,318,15,30

Pl,28,0,grass,194,26

Pl,28,1,grass,400,26

Pl,28,2,grass,400,27

Pl,28,3,grass,193,26

Pl,28,4,grass,193,27

Pl,28,5,grass,195,28

Pl,28,6,grass,194,27

Pl,28,7,grass,194,28

Pl,28,8,grass,193,28

Pl,28,9,grass,114,28

Pl,28,10,grass,193,29

Pl,28,11,grass,114,29

Pl,28,2,night,163

Pl,28,3,night,163

Pl,28,6,pokeradar,193

Pl,28,7,pokeradar,195

Pl,28,10,pokeradar,193

Pl,28,11,pokeradar,114

Pl,28,8,gba-firered,24

Pl,28,9,gba-firered,24

Pl,28,0,surfing,194,20,30

Pl,28,1,surfing,194,20,30

Pl,28,2,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,28,3,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,28,4,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,28,0,old-rod,129,3,6

Pl,28,1,old-rod,129,4,7

Pl,28,2,old-rod,129,5,10

Pl,28,3,old-rod,129,5,10

Pl,28,4,old-rod,129,5,15

Pl,28,0,good-rod,129,15,20

Pl,28,1,good-rod,339,15,20

Pl,28,2,good-rod,129,10,25

Pl,28,3,good-rod,339,10,25

Pl,28,4,good-rod,339,10,25

Pl,28,0,super-rod,130,30,55

Pl,28,1,super-rod,318,30,40

Pl,28,2,super-rod,340,20,50

Pl,28,3,super-rod,318,40,55

Pl,28,4,super-rod,318,40,55

You can tell from this data that there are descrete levels and rarities which change between the different areas.
This mistake has been made throughout all of bulbapedia's location project.
I will get the daily great marsh zone pokemon rarities later.
[[User:Sabresite|Sabresite]] 03:13, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
:Can you put that in the chart format which we have? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:23, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
::Yes when I get time, I will do this. I posted the long spam so that someone who has the time, can do it for me. If a pokemon appears multiple times with the same level, simply add the percentages for each slot and that is the total rarity. Keep in mind that rarity changes from night to day, or with the dongles present. [[User:Sabresite|Sabresite]] 03:39, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

== Platinum ==

Err, should the article mention that the place was redesigned in Platinum? The rough layout is the same (the railway tracks and platforms are still there, and it's still the same size and shape), but a lot of little details have been changed. The mud also looks a lot different (there are light and dark patches indicating where you can walk without falling) and it actually has unique grass-in-mud graphics too. All in all it's substantially nicer. [[User:Darien Shields|Darien Shields]] 12:30, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

==Drapion!==

I caught a Drapion in my Platinum copy, and it doesn't say so in the article!! :P [[User:YukitoOoO|YukitoOoO]] 00:10, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

== Toxicroak! ==

I caught a Toxicroak in my Platinum version just as YukitoOoO caught a Drapion in their Platinum version. --[[User:Kamikami|Kamikami]] 00:26, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

== Carvanha ==

I keep finding low lvl (16-20) Carvanha in the safarizone. im sing a super rod, yet it says on the list they 30+.i havent found 1 over 20. shold this be mentioned?--[[User:Ben7229|Ben7229]] 21:50, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

== Merge the platinum pre-national list? ==

Why is the set of three additional Pokémon available in platinum before the national Pokédex given it's own list? The availability marks should be enough. [[User:Kendai|~Kendai]] 10:03, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
:To signify the difference? Because someone was lazy when Pt came out? Change it if you want - it's a wiki, after all. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:24, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

== Shards in Platinum ==

Um, the Ace Trainer (or guy with green hair) doesn't just give you a green shard (he just gave me a blue shard today). He gives you a random shard each day, think someone should correct that. ----[[User:NateVirus|NateVirus]]''([[User talk:NateVirus|Talk]]''|''[[Special:Contributions/NateVirus|Contributions]]'') 03:13, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

== Item list is lousy. ==

Someone needs to redo the list of items and where they are located for those who play platinum. I tried to use it, and almost nothing was where it said it would be. Some I couldn't find at all. Will someone please fix this. I would, but I can't remember where I found items and what they were. All I remember is that the Rare candy was the only item that was where the list said it would be. Someone also needs to change the map to one that shows the layout of the marsh in Platinum.--[[User:Toolen|Toolen]] ([[User talk:Toolen|talk]]) 22:32, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

==Quick Tram==
Should an area be added for the Quick Tram?[[User:152105|152105]] ([[User talk:152105|talk]]) 20:18, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

== Variable Pokémon reloadable? ==

I am attempting to complete my Pokédex, and was wondering whether you can manipulate the Pokémon that appear like you can with the Trophy Garden, or just have to wait a day like with Swarms. Also, either way, could someone add it to the page? (I don't see it there) Bookwyrm1357 06:55, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
:I'm not sure if this will work, but you may get different Pokemon if you set your DS's clock a day forward if you find the current Pokemon in the marsh are not what you want. --[[User:NOBODY|NOBODY]] ([[User talk:NOBODY|talk]]) 19:43, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
::The way daily events often work, you could probably save during one day, and, until you actually save again when it's a new day, you can load and reset your game as often as you need to until the right Pokemon is appearing. You could try that. If you mess with the clock, I think it makes you wait a day anyway until you can do time-based events again. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 20:11, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

Talk:Great Marsh

2015-05-02T10:19:43Z

Olaf: /* Bait vs Mud */

Somebody in the watchtower mentioned that the pokemon that are there seem different today. Is it possible that the pokemon that appear change from day to day?

:According to Coronis, yes: ''the Safari actually works by randomly generating a pokemon from the 'rare' list for each 6 area each day. the same species can appear in more than 1 areas. according to your list, there seem to be 31 holders, and those that appear more than once, like the Sinnoh ones, are less rare, while the post-National dex Kanto/Johto/Hoenn ones, are rarer since they occupy one holder only'' - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 02:49, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Has anyone done any researching into how the Bait/Mud catching system works? I haven't figured out anything better than just acting randomly, pretty much. [[User:Opaopa13|Opaopa13]] 18:37, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

While playing the game myself, i discovered a rare Carnivine which means that the list of pokemon is incomplete. I added it to the list, but i did not know the percentage.
And by the way, throwing bit makes the pokemon less likely to flee but decreases the accuracy of catching it. Throwing mud makes the pokemon more likely to flee, but it increases the accuracy of catching it. [[User:CBhadha|CBhadha]] 21:57, 25 July 2007
:It's in the Changing Pokémon section. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] ~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]] 02:04, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

I noticed that you can get two 'rare' Pokemon on the same day (crogunk and skorupi), and it was my first time at the marsh. Does anybody know anything about this? [[User:Verity_Lies|Verity_Lies]]

There are a few things that i have found wrong with the lists for platinum i have been able to catch a Carnivine as wall as finding a Skorupi at level 27 even though the range says 20-26, i was also able to find Yanma without it being indicated by the binoculars. I think there may be other anomalies but i haven't encountered them yet. [[User:Bonez565|Bonez565]] 08:40, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
:You might not see Yanma in the binoculars. The article is simply saying that it's the only way of knowing ahead of time, ''if'' the binoculars show it. The Yanma would've been there whether you looked or not, but you simply didn't know before going into the Marsh.—[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 18:16, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
==Carvanha?==
It's possible to catch Carvanha in the Great Marsh with a super rod. How does that fit in? - - - '''[[User:Dra2k4|dra''2k4'']]''' 15:19, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
==Magikarp weirdness==
Okay, two things:
1--After tracking down Skorupi with the 'scope, the encounter rate in the specific area (6) seemed significantly less than the 10% offered... maybe less than 5%?
2--Most interesting, maybe spotted already but it wasn't posted here (and I do apologize in advance if it was already) but I had beyond abnormal difficulties trying to catch wild Magikarp (area 6 again) Using the good rod, I failed to catch ANY Magikarp (6 of them, aroundabouts) usually got them to 2/3 rolls in the ball before breaking out... but when I used the old rod, a level -4- Magikarp broke out -immediately- of the Safari Ball, and two level 5s were also failed to be caught despite 3 balls thrown at them, each. Well over a dozen balls wasted on them all :/

Yet I caught a level 30 Gyarados on my first try... *shrug*

If it helps any, this was all done around 1am in the morning, on Diamond.

--[[User:NotJim|NotJim]] 24 December 2007

Umm...Just asking, but: Why are you trying to catch Magikarp in the Great Marsh in the first place? Go to any waterway in the game, whip out the Old/Good Rod, and you can catch a Magikarp the normal way.
:As for how many balls it takes to catch a Pokémon: The number (and, outside the Safari-type areas, type) of balls you need to go through is completely random; I caught a Giratina (health in the Yellow area) with a Great Ball, after going through about 10-30 Ultra Balls, while I ALMOST RAN OUT of balls trying to catch Rotom. [[User:Diachronos|Diachronos]] 23:06, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
::I tried using ultra balls on a LV. 2 Pidgey. IT WOULDNT WORK. then I tried a regular Poke Ball and "Pidgey was caught!" I dont get it. Ive tried catching other low level-ers with ultra balls and i have the same frusturation. any ideas? [[User:Mooites|Mooites]] 23:42, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

== Huh, say what now? ==

Why is Carnivine on the list of Pokémon found ''NORMALLY'' in the Great Marsh? I thought it was one of them rares. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 11:02, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
:It sometimes appears without being a rare set for the day. Being a rare set just increases it's chance. [[User:Gywall|'''Gywall''']]([[User_talk:Gywall|Talk]]) 11:16, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

== Bait vs Mud ==

"If you throw food at Pokémon, it 
makes them easier to catch... 
But they're also more likely to 
bolt when they eat. 
If you throw mud at them, they 
also get easier to catch... 
But they also get more likely to 
bolt out of anger. 
It's hard to decide what I should 
be doing." 
-- this is said by a man in the Marsh.

This seems to contradict what is written on this page. Can anyone clear this up for me? 
Thanks [[User:Tomw|Tomw]] 23:14, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

:It's probably a translation error. It's mentioned at the bottom of the page. [[User:Flicky|Fli]][[User talk:Flicky|cky]][[User:Flicky/Latin|1991]] 19:58, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

:Note, the text is different in Platinum. He says that bait will make them easier to catch, but more likely to flee, and mud will make them less likely to run (out of anger, he says), but harder to catch. Which is still contradictory to the article. I always thought it was the other way around, but playing in the Great Marsh and trying both out, I believe him. I'm changing it. [[User:Terrane|Terrane]] 16:15, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Out of DPPt, I have only played the Platinum version. I also confirm to what Tomw says and personally, I found that the boy in the marsh is correct and the part in the article is incorrect. If this is also true for Diamond and Platinum, the article needs to be changed. Otherwise it needs to be mentioned that the system is opposite in Platinum.
Thanks
[[User:Ishu Bagaria|Ishu Bagaria]] 21:20 14 November 2010 (UTC)

: I am pretty sure the NPC is right(on Pearl at least). A pokémon can be thrown 6-7 balls of mud without fleeing but will be made nearly uncatchable, while it's rare to be able to throw baits more than three times before the pokémon flees, however catch is nearly guaranteed at that point. Tested on countless Bibarels...
[[User:Olaf|Olaf]] ([[User talk:Olaf|talk]]) 10:19, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

: I am also playing Platinum version and have experienced some severe frustration with my usual catching strategy -- for example, after throwing two Muds, a Yanma escaped ''six'' Safari Balls before fleeing -- either the Random Number God is out to deprive me of any Safari catches tonight, or today must be Opposite Day. Or maybe the above theory is correct? So, experimenting with it, I successfully threw ... eighteen Muds at a Bibarel before it fled from battle. Yes, ''EIGHTEEN.'' Random Number God may be fickle, but he can't like me ''that'' much, right? By contrast, when I tried throwing Baits instead of Mud, and most wild Pokemon fled from battle after just two. It ''certainly'' appears to me that Platinum's (if not D/P too) Bait/Mud effects are precisely the opposite of normal for Safari Zones.

: PS: Also by contrast, I threw two Bait at a Yanma and then caught it with just one Ball. That's a huge difference from two Muds + six Balls and ''still'' not catching one. --''[[User:Stratelier|Stratelier]] 07:02, 30 April 2011 (UTC)''

::PPS: I found two user FAQs on GameFAQs.com corroborating that the Great Marsh's Bait and Mud mechanics (at least in Platinum) appear to be reversed from other Safari Zones. --''[[User:Stratelier|Stratelier]] 16:02, 30 April 2011 (UTC)''

== Rarity ==

The percentages for each pokemon to be found can be seen by the output of my Encounters Extraction program. The format is:

Game|Section|Slot|Encounter Type|PokeNatID|MinLevel|<MaxLevel>

Slots are like the following:

Slot 0 - 20%

Slot 1 - 20%

Slot 2 - 10%

Slot 3 - 10%

Slot 4 - 10%

Slot 5 - 10%

Slot 6 - 5%

Slot 7 - 5%

Slot 8 - 4%

Slot 9 - 4%

Slot 10 - 1%

Slot 11 - 1%

Surfing/Fishing

Slot 0 - 60%

Slot 1 - 30%

Slot 2 - 5%

Slot 3 - 4%

Slot 4 - 1%

Sections are as follows where 52 is the Great Mash location.

23,52,"Great Marsh [Area 1]"

24,52,"Great Marsh [Area 2]"

25,52,"Great Marsh [Area 3]"

26,52,"Great Marsh [Area 4]"

27,52,"Great Marsh [Area 5]"

28,52,"Great Marsh [Area 6]"

For slots which say night, day, or something other than grass/surf/rods - These are slot replacements. They replace the pokemon that normally occupies that slot and assumes its rarity.

D|P,23,0,grass,194,24

D|P,23,1,grass,400,25

D|P,23,2,grass,406,24

D|P,23,3,grass,396,26

D|P,23,4,grass,183,25

D|P,23,5,grass,195,25

D|P,23,6,grass,183,26

D|P,23,7,grass,195,26

D|P,23,8,grass,54,26

D|P,23,9,grass,54,24

D|P,23,10,grass,399,26

D|P,23,11,grass,298,24

D|P,23,2,night,163

D|P,23,3,night,164

D|P,23,8,gba-firered,24

D|P,23,9,gba-firered,24

D|P,23,0,surfing,194,20,30

D|P,23,1,surfing,183,20,30

D|P,23,2,surfing,195,20,40

D|P,23,3,surfing,54,20,40

D|P,23,4,surfing,54,20,40

D|P,23,0,old-rod,129,4,6

D|P,23,1,old-rod,129,3,7

D|P,23,2,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,23,3,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,23,4,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,23,0,good-rod,129,15,20

D|P,23,1,good-rod,339,15,20

D|P,23,2,good-rod,129,10,25

D|P,23,3,good-rod,130,15,30

D|P,23,4,good-rod,130,15,30

D|P,23,0,super-rod,340,30,55

D|P,23,1,super-rod,318,15,20

D|P,23,2,super-rod,130,40,55

D|P,23,3,super-rod,318,15,30

D|P,23,4,super-rod,318,15,30

Pl,23,0,grass,194,28

Pl,23,1,grass,400,28

Pl,23,2,grass,357,28

Pl,23,3,grass,357,30

Pl,23,4,grass,194,29

Pl,23,5,grass,195,30

Pl,23,6,grass,194,28

Pl,23,7,grass,194,30

Pl,23,8,grass,193,30

Pl,23,9,grass,114,30

Pl,23,10,grass,193,31

Pl,23,11,grass,114,31

Pl,23,2,night,164

Pl,23,3,night,164

Pl,23,6,pokeradar,194

Pl,23,7,pokeradar,195

Pl,23,10,pokeradar,193

Pl,23,11,pokeradar,114

Pl,23,8,gba-firered,24

Pl,23,9,gba-firered,24

Pl,23,0,surfing,194,20,30

Pl,23,1,surfing,194,20,30

Pl,23,2,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,23,3,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,23,4,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,23,0,old-rod,129,3,6

Pl,23,1,old-rod,129,4,7

Pl,23,2,old-rod,129,5,10

Pl,23,3,old-rod,129,5,10

Pl,23,4,old-rod,129,5,15

Pl,23,0,good-rod,129,15,20

Pl,23,1,good-rod,339,15,20

Pl,23,2,good-rod,129,10,25

Pl,23,3,good-rod,339,10,25

Pl,23,4,good-rod,339,10,25

Pl,23,0,super-rod,130,30,55

Pl,23,1,super-rod,318,30,40

Pl,23,2,super-rod,340,20,50

Pl,23,3,super-rod,318,40,55

Pl,23,4,super-rod,318,40,55

D|P,24,0,grass,194,24

D|P,24,1,grass,400,25

D|P,24,2,grass,406,24

D|P,24,3,grass,396,26

D|P,24,4,grass,183,25

D|P,24,5,grass,195,25

D|P,24,6,grass,183,26

D|P,24,7,grass,195,26

D|P,24,8,grass,54,26

D|P,24,9,grass,54,24

D|P,24,10,grass,399,26

D|P,24,11,grass,298,24

D|P,24,2,night,163

D|P,24,3,night,164

D|P,24,8,gba-firered,24

D|P,24,9,gba-firered,24

D|P,24,0,surfing,194,20,30

D|P,24,1,surfing,183,20,30

D|P,24,2,surfing,195,20,40

D|P,24,3,surfing,54,20,40

D|P,24,4,surfing,54,20,40

D|P,24,0,old-rod,129,4,6

D|P,24,1,old-rod,129,3,7

D|P,24,2,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,24,3,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,24,4,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,24,0,good-rod,129,15,20

D|P,24,1,good-rod,339,15,20

D|P,24,2,good-rod,129,10,25

D|P,24,3,good-rod,130,15,30

D|P,24,4,good-rod,130,15,30

D|P,24,0,super-rod,340,30,55

D|P,24,1,super-rod,318,15,20

D|P,24,2,super-rod,130,40,55

D|P,24,3,super-rod,318,15,30

D|P,24,4,super-rod,318,15,30

Pl,24,0,grass,194,28

Pl,24,1,grass,400,28

Pl,24,2,grass,357,28

Pl,24,3,grass,357,30

Pl,24,4,grass,194,29

Pl,24,5,grass,195,30

Pl,24,6,grass,194,28

Pl,24,7,grass,194,30

Pl,24,8,grass,193,30

Pl,24,9,grass,114,30

Pl,24,10,grass,193,31

Pl,24,11,grass,114,31

Pl,24,2,night,164

Pl,24,3,night,164

Pl,24,6,pokeradar,194

Pl,24,7,pokeradar,195

Pl,24,10,pokeradar,193

Pl,24,11,pokeradar,114

Pl,24,8,gba-firered,24

Pl,24,9,gba-firered,24

Pl,24,0,surfing,194,20,30

Pl,24,1,surfing,194,20,30

Pl,24,2,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,24,3,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,24,4,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,24,0,old-rod,129,3,6

Pl,24,1,old-rod,129,4,7

Pl,24,2,old-rod,129,5,10

Pl,24,3,old-rod,129,5,10

Pl,24,4,old-rod,129,5,15

Pl,24,0,good-rod,129,15,20

Pl,24,1,good-rod,339,15,20

Pl,24,2,good-rod,129,10,25

Pl,24,3,good-rod,339,10,25

Pl,24,4,good-rod,339,10,25

Pl,24,0,super-rod,130,30,55

Pl,24,1,super-rod,318,30,40

Pl,24,2,super-rod,340,20,50

Pl,24,3,super-rod,318,40,55

Pl,24,4,super-rod,318,40,55

D|P,25,0,grass,194,22

D|P,25,1,grass,400,23

D|P,25,2,grass,406,22

D|P,25,3,grass,396,24

D|P,25,4,grass,183,23

D|P,25,5,grass,195,23

D|P,25,6,grass,183,24

D|P,25,7,grass,195,24

D|P,25,8,grass,54,24

D|P,25,9,grass,54,22

D|P,25,10,grass,399,24

D|P,25,11,grass,298,22

D|P,25,2,night,163

D|P,25,3,night,163

D|P,25,8,gba-firered,24

D|P,25,9,gba-firered,24

D|P,25,0,surfing,194,20,30

D|P,25,1,surfing,183,20,30

D|P,25,2,surfing,195,20,40

D|P,25,3,surfing,54,20,40

D|P,25,4,surfing,54,20,40

D|P,25,0,old-rod,129,4,6

D|P,25,1,old-rod,129,3,7

D|P,25,2,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,25,3,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,25,4,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,25,0,good-rod,129,15,20

D|P,25,1,good-rod,339,15,20

D|P,25,2,good-rod,129,10,25

D|P,25,3,good-rod,130,15,30

D|P,25,4,good-rod,130,15,30

D|P,25,0,super-rod,340,30,55

D|P,25,1,super-rod,318,15,20

D|P,25,2,super-rod,130,40,55

D|P,25,3,super-rod,318,15,30

D|P,25,4,super-rod,318,15,30

Pl,25,0,grass,194,27

Pl,25,1,grass,400,27

Pl,25,2,grass,400,28

Pl,25,3,grass,114,27

Pl,25,4,grass,114,28

Pl,25,5,grass,195,29

Pl,25,6,grass,194,28

Pl,25,7,grass,194,29

Pl,25,8,grass,193,29

Pl,25,9,grass,114,29

Pl,25,10,grass,193,30

Pl,25,11,grass,114,30

Pl,25,2,night,164

Pl,25,3,night,163

Pl,25,6,pokeradar,114

Pl,25,7,pokeradar,195

Pl,25,10,pokeradar,193

Pl,25,11,pokeradar,114

Pl,25,8,gba-firered,24

Pl,25,9,gba-firered,24

Pl,25,0,surfing,194,20,30

Pl,25,1,surfing,194,20,30

Pl,25,2,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,25,3,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,25,4,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,25,0,old-rod,129,3,6

Pl,25,1,old-rod,129,4,7

Pl,25,2,old-rod,129,5,10

Pl,25,3,old-rod,129,5,10

Pl,25,4,old-rod,129,5,15

Pl,25,0,good-rod,129,15,20

Pl,25,1,good-rod,339,15,20

Pl,25,2,good-rod,129,10,25

Pl,25,3,good-rod,339,10,25

Pl,25,4,good-rod,339,10,25

Pl,25,0,super-rod,130,30,55

Pl,25,1,super-rod,318,30,40

Pl,25,2,super-rod,340,20,50

Pl,25,3,super-rod,318,40,55

Pl,25,4,super-rod,318,40,55

D|P,26,0,grass,194,22

D|P,26,1,grass,400,23

D|P,26,2,grass,406,22

D|P,26,3,grass,396,24

D|P,26,4,grass,183,23

D|P,26,5,grass,195,23

D|P,26,6,grass,183,24

D|P,26,7,grass,195,24

D|P,26,8,grass,54,24

D|P,26,9,grass,54,22

D|P,26,10,grass,399,24

D|P,26,11,grass,298,22

D|P,26,2,night,163

D|P,26,3,night,163

D|P,26,8,gba-firered,24

D|P,26,9,gba-firered,24

D|P,26,0,surfing,194,20,30

D|P,26,1,surfing,183,20,30

D|P,26,2,surfing,195,20,40

D|P,26,3,surfing,54,20,40

D|P,26,4,surfing,54,20,40

D|P,26,0,old-rod,129,4,6

D|P,26,1,old-rod,129,3,7

D|P,26,2,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,26,3,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,26,4,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,26,0,good-rod,129,15,20

D|P,26,1,good-rod,339,15,20

D|P,26,2,good-rod,129,10,25

D|P,26,3,good-rod,130,15,30

D|P,26,4,good-rod,130,15,30

D|P,26,0,super-rod,340,30,55

D|P,26,1,super-rod,318,15,20

D|P,26,2,super-rod,130,40,55

D|P,26,3,super-rod,318,15,30

D|P,26,4,super-rod,318,15,30

Pl,26,0,grass,194,27

Pl,26,1,grass,400,27

Pl,26,2,grass,400,28

Pl,26,3,grass,114,27

Pl,26,4,grass,114,28

Pl,26,5,grass,195,29

Pl,26,6,grass,194,28

Pl,26,7,grass,194,29

Pl,26,8,grass,193,29

Pl,26,9,grass,114,29

Pl,26,10,grass,193,30

Pl,26,11,grass,114,30

Pl,26,2,night,164

Pl,26,3,night,163

Pl,26,6,pokeradar,114

Pl,26,7,pokeradar,195

Pl,26,10,pokeradar,193

Pl,26,11,pokeradar,114

Pl,26,8,gba-firered,24

Pl,26,9,gba-firered,24

Pl,26,0,surfing,194,20,30

Pl,26,1,surfing,194,20,30

Pl,26,2,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,26,3,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,26,4,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,26,0,old-rod,129,3,6

Pl,26,1,old-rod,129,4,7

Pl,26,2,old-rod,129,5,10

Pl,26,3,old-rod,129,5,10

Pl,26,4,old-rod,129,5,15

Pl,26,0,good-rod,129,15,20

Pl,26,1,good-rod,339,15,20

Pl,26,2,good-rod,129,10,25

Pl,26,3,good-rod,339,10,25

Pl,26,4,good-rod,339,10,25

Pl,26,0,super-rod,130,30,55

Pl,26,1,super-rod,318,30,40

Pl,26,2,super-rod,340,20,50

Pl,26,3,super-rod,318,40,55

Pl,26,4,super-rod,318,40,55

D|P,27,0,grass,194,20

D|P,27,1,grass,400,21

D|P,27,2,grass,406,20

D|P,27,3,grass,396,22

D|P,27,4,grass,183,21

D|P,27,5,grass,195,21

D|P,27,6,grass,183,22

D|P,27,7,grass,195,22

D|P,27,8,grass,399,22

D|P,27,9,grass,298,20

D|P,27,10,grass,399,22

D|P,27,11,grass,298,20

D|P,27,2,night,163

D|P,27,3,night,163

D|P,27,8,gba-firered,24

D|P,27,9,gba-firered,24

Pl,27,0,grass,194,26

Pl,27,1,grass,400,26

Pl,27,2,grass,400,27

Pl,27,3,grass,193,26

Pl,27,4,grass,193,27

Pl,27,5,grass,195,28

Pl,27,6,grass,194,27

Pl,27,7,grass,194,28

Pl,27,8,grass,193,28

Pl,27,9,grass,114,28

Pl,27,10,grass,193,29

Pl,27,11,grass,114,29

Pl,27,2,night,163

Pl,27,3,night,163

Pl,27,6,pokeradar,193

Pl,27,7,pokeradar,195

Pl,27,10,pokeradar,193

Pl,27,11,pokeradar,114

Pl,27,8,gba-firered,24

Pl,27,9,gba-firered,24

Pl,27,0,surfing,194,20,30

Pl,27,1,surfing,194,20,30

Pl,27,2,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,27,3,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,27,4,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,27,0,old-rod,129,3,6

Pl,27,1,old-rod,129,4,7

Pl,27,2,old-rod,129,5,10

Pl,27,3,old-rod,129,5,10

Pl,27,4,old-rod,129,5,15

Pl,27,0,good-rod,129,15,20

Pl,27,1,good-rod,339,15,20

Pl,27,2,good-rod,129,10,25

Pl,27,3,good-rod,339,10,25

Pl,27,4,good-rod,339,10,25

Pl,27,0,super-rod,130,30,55

Pl,27,1,super-rod,318,30,40

Pl,27,2,super-rod,340,20,50

Pl,27,3,super-rod,318,40,55

Pl,27,4,super-rod,318,40,55

D|P,28,0,grass,194,20

D|P,28,1,grass,400,21

D|P,28,2,grass,406,20

D|P,28,3,grass,396,22

D|P,28,4,grass,183,21

D|P,28,5,grass,195,21

D|P,28,6,grass,183,22

D|P,28,7,grass,195,22

D|P,28,8,grass,54,22

D|P,28,9,grass,54,20

D|P,28,10,grass,399,22

D|P,28,11,grass,298,20

D|P,28,2,night,163

D|P,28,3,night,163

D|P,28,8,gba-firered,24

D|P,28,9,gba-firered,24

D|P,28,0,surfing,194,20,30

D|P,28,1,surfing,183,20,30

D|P,28,2,surfing,195,20,40

D|P,28,3,surfing,54,20,40

D|P,28,4,surfing,54,20,40

D|P,28,0,old-rod,129,4,6

D|P,28,1,old-rod,129,3,7

D|P,28,2,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,28,3,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,28,4,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,28,0,good-rod,129,15,20

D|P,28,1,good-rod,339,15,20

D|P,28,2,good-rod,129,10,25

D|P,28,3,good-rod,130,15,30

D|P,28,4,good-rod,130,15,30

D|P,28,0,super-rod,340,30,55

D|P,28,1,super-rod,318,15,20

D|P,28,2,super-rod,130,40,55

D|P,28,3,super-rod,318,15,30

D|P,28,4,super-rod,318,15,30

Pl,28,0,grass,194,26

Pl,28,1,grass,400,26

Pl,28,2,grass,400,27

Pl,28,3,grass,193,26

Pl,28,4,grass,193,27

Pl,28,5,grass,195,28

Pl,28,6,grass,194,27

Pl,28,7,grass,194,28

Pl,28,8,grass,193,28

Pl,28,9,grass,114,28

Pl,28,10,grass,193,29

Pl,28,11,grass,114,29

Pl,28,2,night,163

Pl,28,3,night,163

Pl,28,6,pokeradar,193

Pl,28,7,pokeradar,195

Pl,28,10,pokeradar,193

Pl,28,11,pokeradar,114

Pl,28,8,gba-firered,24

Pl,28,9,gba-firered,24

Pl,28,0,surfing,194,20,30

Pl,28,1,surfing,194,20,30

Pl,28,2,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,28,3,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,28,4,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,28,0,old-rod,129,3,6

Pl,28,1,old-rod,129,4,7

Pl,28,2,old-rod,129,5,10

Pl,28,3,old-rod,129,5,10

Pl,28,4,old-rod,129,5,15

Pl,28,0,good-rod,129,15,20

Pl,28,1,good-rod,339,15,20

Pl,28,2,good-rod,129,10,25

Pl,28,3,good-rod,339,10,25

Pl,28,4,good-rod,339,10,25

Pl,28,0,super-rod,130,30,55

Pl,28,1,super-rod,318,30,40

Pl,28,2,super-rod,340,20,50

Pl,28,3,super-rod,318,40,55

Pl,28,4,super-rod,318,40,55

You can tell from this data that there are descrete levels and rarities which change between the different areas.
This mistake has been made throughout all of bulbapedia's location project.
I will get the daily great marsh zone pokemon rarities later.
[[User:Sabresite|Sabresite]] 03:13, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
:Can you put that in the chart format which we have? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:23, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
::Yes when I get time, I will do this. I posted the long spam so that someone who has the time, can do it for me. If a pokemon appears multiple times with the same level, simply add the percentages for each slot and that is the total rarity. Keep in mind that rarity changes from night to day, or with the dongles present. [[User:Sabresite|Sabresite]] 03:39, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

== Platinum ==

Err, should the article mention that the place was redesigned in Platinum? The rough layout is the same (the railway tracks and platforms are still there, and it's still the same size and shape), but a lot of little details have been changed. The mud also looks a lot different (there are light and dark patches indicating where you can walk without falling) and it actually has unique grass-in-mud graphics too. All in all it's substantially nicer. [[User:Darien Shields|Darien Shields]] 12:30, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

==Drapion!==

I caught a Drapion in my Platinum copy, and it doesn't say so in the article!! :P [[User:YukitoOoO|YukitoOoO]] 00:10, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

== Toxicroak! ==

I caught a Toxicroak in my Platinum version just as YukitoOoO caught a Drapion in their Platinum version. --[[User:Kamikami|Kamikami]] 00:26, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

== Carvanha ==

I keep finding low lvl (16-20) Carvanha in the safarizone. im sing a super rod, yet it says on the list they 30+.i havent found 1 over 20. shold this be mentioned?--[[User:Ben7229|Ben7229]] 21:50, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

== Merge the platinum pre-national list? ==

Why is the set of three additional Pokémon available in platinum before the national Pokédex given it's own list? The availability marks should be enough. [[User:Kendai|~Kendai]] 10:03, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
:To signify the difference? Because someone was lazy when Pt came out? Change it if you want - it's a wiki, after all. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:24, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

== Shards in Platinum ==

Um, the Ace Trainer (or guy with green hair) doesn't just give you a green shard (he just gave me a blue shard today). He gives you a random shard each day, think someone should correct that. ----[[User:NateVirus|NateVirus]]''([[User talk:NateVirus|Talk]]''|''[[Special:Contributions/NateVirus|Contributions]]'') 03:13, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

== Item list is lousy. ==

Someone needs to redo the list of items and where they are located for those who play platinum. I tried to use it, and almost nothing was where it said it would be. Some I couldn't find at all. Will someone please fix this. I would, but I can't remember where I found items and what they were. All I remember is that the Rare candy was the only item that was where the list said it would be. Someone also needs to change the map to one that shows the layout of the marsh in Platinum.--[[User:Toolen|Toolen]] ([[User talk:Toolen|talk]]) 22:32, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

==Quick Tram==
Should an area be added for the Quick Tram?[[User:152105|152105]] ([[User talk:152105|talk]]) 20:18, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

== Variable Pokémon reloadable? ==

I am attempting to complete my Pokédex, and was wondering whether you can manipulate the Pokémon that appear like you can with the Trophy Garden, or just have to wait a day like with Swarms. Also, either way, could someone add it to the page? (I don't see it there) Bookwyrm1357 06:55, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
:I'm not sure if this will work, but you may get different Pokemon if you set your DS's clock a day forward if you find the current Pokemon in the marsh are not what you want. --[[User:NOBODY|NOBODY]] ([[User talk:NOBODY|talk]]) 19:43, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
::The way daily events often work, you could probably save during one day, and, until you actually save again when it's a new day, you can load and reset your game as often as you need to until the right Pokemon is appearing. You could try that. If you mess with the clock, I think it makes you wait a day anyway until you can do time-based events again. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 20:11, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

Talk:Great Marsh

2015-05-02T10:19:06Z

Olaf: /* Bait vs Mud */

Somebody in the watchtower mentioned that the pokemon that are there seem different today. Is it possible that the pokemon that appear change from day to day?

:According to Coronis, yes: ''the Safari actually works by randomly generating a pokemon from the 'rare' list for each 6 area each day. the same species can appear in more than 1 areas. according to your list, there seem to be 31 holders, and those that appear more than once, like the Sinnoh ones, are less rare, while the post-National dex Kanto/Johto/Hoenn ones, are rarer since they occupy one holder only'' - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 02:49, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Has anyone done any researching into how the Bait/Mud catching system works? I haven't figured out anything better than just acting randomly, pretty much. [[User:Opaopa13|Opaopa13]] 18:37, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

While playing the game myself, i discovered a rare Carnivine which means that the list of pokemon is incomplete. I added it to the list, but i did not know the percentage.
And by the way, throwing bit makes the pokemon less likely to flee but decreases the accuracy of catching it. Throwing mud makes the pokemon more likely to flee, but it increases the accuracy of catching it. [[User:CBhadha|CBhadha]] 21:57, 25 July 2007
:It's in the Changing Pokémon section. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] ~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]] 02:04, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

I noticed that you can get two 'rare' Pokemon on the same day (crogunk and skorupi), and it was my first time at the marsh. Does anybody know anything about this? [[User:Verity_Lies|Verity_Lies]]

There are a few things that i have found wrong with the lists for platinum i have been able to catch a Carnivine as wall as finding a Skorupi at level 27 even though the range says 20-26, i was also able to find Yanma without it being indicated by the binoculars. I think there may be other anomalies but i haven't encountered them yet. [[User:Bonez565|Bonez565]] 08:40, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
:You might not see Yanma in the binoculars. The article is simply saying that it's the only way of knowing ahead of time, ''if'' the binoculars show it. The Yanma would've been there whether you looked or not, but you simply didn't know before going into the Marsh.—[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 18:16, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
==Carvanha?==
It's possible to catch Carvanha in the Great Marsh with a super rod. How does that fit in? - - - '''[[User:Dra2k4|dra''2k4'']]''' 15:19, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
==Magikarp weirdness==
Okay, two things:
1--After tracking down Skorupi with the 'scope, the encounter rate in the specific area (6) seemed significantly less than the 10% offered... maybe less than 5%?
2--Most interesting, maybe spotted already but it wasn't posted here (and I do apologize in advance if it was already) but I had beyond abnormal difficulties trying to catch wild Magikarp (area 6 again) Using the good rod, I failed to catch ANY Magikarp (6 of them, aroundabouts) usually got them to 2/3 rolls in the ball before breaking out... but when I used the old rod, a level -4- Magikarp broke out -immediately- of the Safari Ball, and two level 5s were also failed to be caught despite 3 balls thrown at them, each. Well over a dozen balls wasted on them all :/

Yet I caught a level 30 Gyarados on my first try... *shrug*

If it helps any, this was all done around 1am in the morning, on Diamond.

--[[User:NotJim|NotJim]] 24 December 2007

Umm...Just asking, but: Why are you trying to catch Magikarp in the Great Marsh in the first place? Go to any waterway in the game, whip out the Old/Good Rod, and you can catch a Magikarp the normal way.
:As for how many balls it takes to catch a Pokémon: The number (and, outside the Safari-type areas, type) of balls you need to go through is completely random; I caught a Giratina (health in the Yellow area) with a Great Ball, after going through about 10-30 Ultra Balls, while I ALMOST RAN OUT of balls trying to catch Rotom. [[User:Diachronos|Diachronos]] 23:06, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
::I tried using ultra balls on a LV. 2 Pidgey. IT WOULDNT WORK. then I tried a regular Poke Ball and "Pidgey was caught!" I dont get it. Ive tried catching other low level-ers with ultra balls and i have the same frusturation. any ideas? [[User:Mooites|Mooites]] 23:42, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

== Huh, say what now? ==

Why is Carnivine on the list of Pokémon found ''NORMALLY'' in the Great Marsh? I thought it was one of them rares. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 11:02, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
:It sometimes appears without being a rare set for the day. Being a rare set just increases it's chance. [[User:Gywall|'''Gywall''']]([[User_talk:Gywall|Talk]]) 11:16, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

== Bait vs Mud ==

"If you throw food at Pokémon, it 
makes them easier to catch... 
But they're also more likely to 
bolt when they eat. 
If you throw mud at them, they 
also get easier to catch... 
But they also get more likely to 
bolt out of anger. 
It's hard to decide what I should 
be doing." 
-- this is said by a man in the Marsh.

This seems to contradict what is written on this page. Can anyone clear this up for me? 
Thanks [[User:Tomw|Tomw]] 23:14, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

:It's probably a translation error. It's mentioned at the bottom of the page. [[User:Flicky|Fli]][[User talk:Flicky|cky]][[User:Flicky/Latin|1991]] 19:58, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

:Note, the text is different in Platinum. He says that bait will make them easier to catch, but more likely to flee, and mud will make them less likely to run (out of anger, he says), but harder to catch. Which is still contradictory to the article. I always thought it was the other way around, but playing in the Great Marsh and trying both out, I believe him. I'm changing it. [[User:Terrane|Terrane]] 16:15, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Out of DPPt, I have only played the Platinum version. I also confirm to what Tomw says and personally, I found that the boy in the marsh is correct and the part in the article is incorrect. If this is also true for Diamond and Platinum, the article needs to be changed. Otherwise it needs to be mentioned that the system is opposite in Platinum.
Thanks
[[User:Ishu Bagaria|Ishu Bagaria]] 21:20 14 November 2010 (UTC)

: I am pretty sure the NPC is right(on Pearl at least). A pokémon can be thrown 6-7 balls of mud without fleeing but will be made nearly uncatchable, while it's rare to be able to throw baits more than three times before the pokémon flees, however catch is nearly guaranteed at that point. Tested on countless Bibarels...
--[[User:Olaf|Olaf]] ([[User talk:Olaf|talk]]) 10:19, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

: I am also playing Platinum version and have experienced some severe frustration with my usual catching strategy -- for example, after throwing two Muds, a Yanma escaped ''six'' Safari Balls before fleeing -- either the Random Number God is out to deprive me of any Safari catches tonight, or today must be Opposite Day. Or maybe the above theory is correct? So, experimenting with it, I successfully threw ... eighteen Muds at a Bibarel before it fled from battle. Yes, ''EIGHTEEN.'' Random Number God may be fickle, but he can't like me ''that'' much, right? By contrast, when I tried throwing Baits instead of Mud, and most wild Pokemon fled from battle after just two. It ''certainly'' appears to me that Platinum's (if not D/P too) Bait/Mud effects are precisely the opposite of normal for Safari Zones.

: PS: Also by contrast, I threw two Bait at a Yanma and then caught it with just one Ball. That's a huge difference from two Muds + six Balls and ''still'' not catching one. --''[[User:Stratelier|Stratelier]] 07:02, 30 April 2011 (UTC)''

::PPS: I found two user FAQs on GameFAQs.com corroborating that the Great Marsh's Bait and Mud mechanics (at least in Platinum) appear to be reversed from other Safari Zones. --''[[User:Stratelier|Stratelier]] 16:02, 30 April 2011 (UTC)''

== Rarity ==

The percentages for each pokemon to be found can be seen by the output of my Encounters Extraction program. The format is:

Game|Section|Slot|Encounter Type|PokeNatID|MinLevel|<MaxLevel>

Slots are like the following:

Slot 0 - 20%

Slot 1 - 20%

Slot 2 - 10%

Slot 3 - 10%

Slot 4 - 10%

Slot 5 - 10%

Slot 6 - 5%

Slot 7 - 5%

Slot 8 - 4%

Slot 9 - 4%

Slot 10 - 1%

Slot 11 - 1%

Surfing/Fishing

Slot 0 - 60%

Slot 1 - 30%

Slot 2 - 5%

Slot 3 - 4%

Slot 4 - 1%

Sections are as follows where 52 is the Great Mash location.

23,52,"Great Marsh [Area 1]"

24,52,"Great Marsh [Area 2]"

25,52,"Great Marsh [Area 3]"

26,52,"Great Marsh [Area 4]"

27,52,"Great Marsh [Area 5]"

28,52,"Great Marsh [Area 6]"

For slots which say night, day, or something other than grass/surf/rods - These are slot replacements. They replace the pokemon that normally occupies that slot and assumes its rarity.

D|P,23,0,grass,194,24

D|P,23,1,grass,400,25

D|P,23,2,grass,406,24

D|P,23,3,grass,396,26

D|P,23,4,grass,183,25

D|P,23,5,grass,195,25

D|P,23,6,grass,183,26

D|P,23,7,grass,195,26

D|P,23,8,grass,54,26

D|P,23,9,grass,54,24

D|P,23,10,grass,399,26

D|P,23,11,grass,298,24

D|P,23,2,night,163

D|P,23,3,night,164

D|P,23,8,gba-firered,24

D|P,23,9,gba-firered,24

D|P,23,0,surfing,194,20,30

D|P,23,1,surfing,183,20,30

D|P,23,2,surfing,195,20,40

D|P,23,3,surfing,54,20,40

D|P,23,4,surfing,54,20,40

D|P,23,0,old-rod,129,4,6

D|P,23,1,old-rod,129,3,7

D|P,23,2,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,23,3,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,23,4,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,23,0,good-rod,129,15,20

D|P,23,1,good-rod,339,15,20

D|P,23,2,good-rod,129,10,25

D|P,23,3,good-rod,130,15,30

D|P,23,4,good-rod,130,15,30

D|P,23,0,super-rod,340,30,55

D|P,23,1,super-rod,318,15,20

D|P,23,2,super-rod,130,40,55

D|P,23,3,super-rod,318,15,30

D|P,23,4,super-rod,318,15,30

Pl,23,0,grass,194,28

Pl,23,1,grass,400,28

Pl,23,2,grass,357,28

Pl,23,3,grass,357,30

Pl,23,4,grass,194,29

Pl,23,5,grass,195,30

Pl,23,6,grass,194,28

Pl,23,7,grass,194,30

Pl,23,8,grass,193,30

Pl,23,9,grass,114,30

Pl,23,10,grass,193,31

Pl,23,11,grass,114,31

Pl,23,2,night,164

Pl,23,3,night,164

Pl,23,6,pokeradar,194

Pl,23,7,pokeradar,195

Pl,23,10,pokeradar,193

Pl,23,11,pokeradar,114

Pl,23,8,gba-firered,24

Pl,23,9,gba-firered,24

Pl,23,0,surfing,194,20,30

Pl,23,1,surfing,194,20,30

Pl,23,2,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,23,3,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,23,4,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,23,0,old-rod,129,3,6

Pl,23,1,old-rod,129,4,7

Pl,23,2,old-rod,129,5,10

Pl,23,3,old-rod,129,5,10

Pl,23,4,old-rod,129,5,15

Pl,23,0,good-rod,129,15,20

Pl,23,1,good-rod,339,15,20

Pl,23,2,good-rod,129,10,25

Pl,23,3,good-rod,339,10,25

Pl,23,4,good-rod,339,10,25

Pl,23,0,super-rod,130,30,55

Pl,23,1,super-rod,318,30,40

Pl,23,2,super-rod,340,20,50

Pl,23,3,super-rod,318,40,55

Pl,23,4,super-rod,318,40,55

D|P,24,0,grass,194,24

D|P,24,1,grass,400,25

D|P,24,2,grass,406,24

D|P,24,3,grass,396,26

D|P,24,4,grass,183,25

D|P,24,5,grass,195,25

D|P,24,6,grass,183,26

D|P,24,7,grass,195,26

D|P,24,8,grass,54,26

D|P,24,9,grass,54,24

D|P,24,10,grass,399,26

D|P,24,11,grass,298,24

D|P,24,2,night,163

D|P,24,3,night,164

D|P,24,8,gba-firered,24

D|P,24,9,gba-firered,24

D|P,24,0,surfing,194,20,30

D|P,24,1,surfing,183,20,30

D|P,24,2,surfing,195,20,40

D|P,24,3,surfing,54,20,40

D|P,24,4,surfing,54,20,40

D|P,24,0,old-rod,129,4,6

D|P,24,1,old-rod,129,3,7

D|P,24,2,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,24,3,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,24,4,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,24,0,good-rod,129,15,20

D|P,24,1,good-rod,339,15,20

D|P,24,2,good-rod,129,10,25

D|P,24,3,good-rod,130,15,30

D|P,24,4,good-rod,130,15,30

D|P,24,0,super-rod,340,30,55

D|P,24,1,super-rod,318,15,20

D|P,24,2,super-rod,130,40,55

D|P,24,3,super-rod,318,15,30

D|P,24,4,super-rod,318,15,30

Pl,24,0,grass,194,28

Pl,24,1,grass,400,28

Pl,24,2,grass,357,28

Pl,24,3,grass,357,30

Pl,24,4,grass,194,29

Pl,24,5,grass,195,30

Pl,24,6,grass,194,28

Pl,24,7,grass,194,30

Pl,24,8,grass,193,30

Pl,24,9,grass,114,30

Pl,24,10,grass,193,31

Pl,24,11,grass,114,31

Pl,24,2,night,164

Pl,24,3,night,164

Pl,24,6,pokeradar,194

Pl,24,7,pokeradar,195

Pl,24,10,pokeradar,193

Pl,24,11,pokeradar,114

Pl,24,8,gba-firered,24

Pl,24,9,gba-firered,24

Pl,24,0,surfing,194,20,30

Pl,24,1,surfing,194,20,30

Pl,24,2,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,24,3,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,24,4,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,24,0,old-rod,129,3,6

Pl,24,1,old-rod,129,4,7

Pl,24,2,old-rod,129,5,10

Pl,24,3,old-rod,129,5,10

Pl,24,4,old-rod,129,5,15

Pl,24,0,good-rod,129,15,20

Pl,24,1,good-rod,339,15,20

Pl,24,2,good-rod,129,10,25

Pl,24,3,good-rod,339,10,25

Pl,24,4,good-rod,339,10,25

Pl,24,0,super-rod,130,30,55

Pl,24,1,super-rod,318,30,40

Pl,24,2,super-rod,340,20,50

Pl,24,3,super-rod,318,40,55

Pl,24,4,super-rod,318,40,55

D|P,25,0,grass,194,22

D|P,25,1,grass,400,23

D|P,25,2,grass,406,22

D|P,25,3,grass,396,24

D|P,25,4,grass,183,23

D|P,25,5,grass,195,23

D|P,25,6,grass,183,24

D|P,25,7,grass,195,24

D|P,25,8,grass,54,24

D|P,25,9,grass,54,22

D|P,25,10,grass,399,24

D|P,25,11,grass,298,22

D|P,25,2,night,163

D|P,25,3,night,163

D|P,25,8,gba-firered,24

D|P,25,9,gba-firered,24

D|P,25,0,surfing,194,20,30

D|P,25,1,surfing,183,20,30

D|P,25,2,surfing,195,20,40

D|P,25,3,surfing,54,20,40

D|P,25,4,surfing,54,20,40

D|P,25,0,old-rod,129,4,6

D|P,25,1,old-rod,129,3,7

D|P,25,2,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,25,3,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,25,4,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,25,0,good-rod,129,15,20

D|P,25,1,good-rod,339,15,20

D|P,25,2,good-rod,129,10,25

D|P,25,3,good-rod,130,15,30

D|P,25,4,good-rod,130,15,30

D|P,25,0,super-rod,340,30,55

D|P,25,1,super-rod,318,15,20

D|P,25,2,super-rod,130,40,55

D|P,25,3,super-rod,318,15,30

D|P,25,4,super-rod,318,15,30

Pl,25,0,grass,194,27

Pl,25,1,grass,400,27

Pl,25,2,grass,400,28

Pl,25,3,grass,114,27

Pl,25,4,grass,114,28

Pl,25,5,grass,195,29

Pl,25,6,grass,194,28

Pl,25,7,grass,194,29

Pl,25,8,grass,193,29

Pl,25,9,grass,114,29

Pl,25,10,grass,193,30

Pl,25,11,grass,114,30

Pl,25,2,night,164

Pl,25,3,night,163

Pl,25,6,pokeradar,114

Pl,25,7,pokeradar,195

Pl,25,10,pokeradar,193

Pl,25,11,pokeradar,114

Pl,25,8,gba-firered,24

Pl,25,9,gba-firered,24

Pl,25,0,surfing,194,20,30

Pl,25,1,surfing,194,20,30

Pl,25,2,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,25,3,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,25,4,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,25,0,old-rod,129,3,6

Pl,25,1,old-rod,129,4,7

Pl,25,2,old-rod,129,5,10

Pl,25,3,old-rod,129,5,10

Pl,25,4,old-rod,129,5,15

Pl,25,0,good-rod,129,15,20

Pl,25,1,good-rod,339,15,20

Pl,25,2,good-rod,129,10,25

Pl,25,3,good-rod,339,10,25

Pl,25,4,good-rod,339,10,25

Pl,25,0,super-rod,130,30,55

Pl,25,1,super-rod,318,30,40

Pl,25,2,super-rod,340,20,50

Pl,25,3,super-rod,318,40,55

Pl,25,4,super-rod,318,40,55

D|P,26,0,grass,194,22

D|P,26,1,grass,400,23

D|P,26,2,grass,406,22

D|P,26,3,grass,396,24

D|P,26,4,grass,183,23

D|P,26,5,grass,195,23

D|P,26,6,grass,183,24

D|P,26,7,grass,195,24

D|P,26,8,grass,54,24

D|P,26,9,grass,54,22

D|P,26,10,grass,399,24

D|P,26,11,grass,298,22

D|P,26,2,night,163

D|P,26,3,night,163

D|P,26,8,gba-firered,24

D|P,26,9,gba-firered,24

D|P,26,0,surfing,194,20,30

D|P,26,1,surfing,183,20,30

D|P,26,2,surfing,195,20,40

D|P,26,3,surfing,54,20,40

D|P,26,4,surfing,54,20,40

D|P,26,0,old-rod,129,4,6

D|P,26,1,old-rod,129,3,7

D|P,26,2,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,26,3,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,26,4,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,26,0,good-rod,129,15,20

D|P,26,1,good-rod,339,15,20

D|P,26,2,good-rod,129,10,25

D|P,26,3,good-rod,130,15,30

D|P,26,4,good-rod,130,15,30

D|P,26,0,super-rod,340,30,55

D|P,26,1,super-rod,318,15,20

D|P,26,2,super-rod,130,40,55

D|P,26,3,super-rod,318,15,30

D|P,26,4,super-rod,318,15,30

Pl,26,0,grass,194,27

Pl,26,1,grass,400,27

Pl,26,2,grass,400,28

Pl,26,3,grass,114,27

Pl,26,4,grass,114,28

Pl,26,5,grass,195,29

Pl,26,6,grass,194,28

Pl,26,7,grass,194,29

Pl,26,8,grass,193,29

Pl,26,9,grass,114,29

Pl,26,10,grass,193,30

Pl,26,11,grass,114,30

Pl,26,2,night,164

Pl,26,3,night,163

Pl,26,6,pokeradar,114

Pl,26,7,pokeradar,195

Pl,26,10,pokeradar,193

Pl,26,11,pokeradar,114

Pl,26,8,gba-firered,24

Pl,26,9,gba-firered,24

Pl,26,0,surfing,194,20,30

Pl,26,1,surfing,194,20,30

Pl,26,2,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,26,3,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,26,4,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,26,0,old-rod,129,3,6

Pl,26,1,old-rod,129,4,7

Pl,26,2,old-rod,129,5,10

Pl,26,3,old-rod,129,5,10

Pl,26,4,old-rod,129,5,15

Pl,26,0,good-rod,129,15,20

Pl,26,1,good-rod,339,15,20

Pl,26,2,good-rod,129,10,25

Pl,26,3,good-rod,339,10,25

Pl,26,4,good-rod,339,10,25

Pl,26,0,super-rod,130,30,55

Pl,26,1,super-rod,318,30,40

Pl,26,2,super-rod,340,20,50

Pl,26,3,super-rod,318,40,55

Pl,26,4,super-rod,318,40,55

D|P,27,0,grass,194,20

D|P,27,1,grass,400,21

D|P,27,2,grass,406,20

D|P,27,3,grass,396,22

D|P,27,4,grass,183,21

D|P,27,5,grass,195,21

D|P,27,6,grass,183,22

D|P,27,7,grass,195,22

D|P,27,8,grass,399,22

D|P,27,9,grass,298,20

D|P,27,10,grass,399,22

D|P,27,11,grass,298,20

D|P,27,2,night,163

D|P,27,3,night,163

D|P,27,8,gba-firered,24

D|P,27,9,gba-firered,24

Pl,27,0,grass,194,26

Pl,27,1,grass,400,26

Pl,27,2,grass,400,27

Pl,27,3,grass,193,26

Pl,27,4,grass,193,27

Pl,27,5,grass,195,28

Pl,27,6,grass,194,27

Pl,27,7,grass,194,28

Pl,27,8,grass,193,28

Pl,27,9,grass,114,28

Pl,27,10,grass,193,29

Pl,27,11,grass,114,29

Pl,27,2,night,163

Pl,27,3,night,163

Pl,27,6,pokeradar,193

Pl,27,7,pokeradar,195

Pl,27,10,pokeradar,193

Pl,27,11,pokeradar,114

Pl,27,8,gba-firered,24

Pl,27,9,gba-firered,24

Pl,27,0,surfing,194,20,30

Pl,27,1,surfing,194,20,30

Pl,27,2,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,27,3,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,27,4,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,27,0,old-rod,129,3,6

Pl,27,1,old-rod,129,4,7

Pl,27,2,old-rod,129,5,10

Pl,27,3,old-rod,129,5,10

Pl,27,4,old-rod,129,5,15

Pl,27,0,good-rod,129,15,20

Pl,27,1,good-rod,339,15,20

Pl,27,2,good-rod,129,10,25

Pl,27,3,good-rod,339,10,25

Pl,27,4,good-rod,339,10,25

Pl,27,0,super-rod,130,30,55

Pl,27,1,super-rod,318,30,40

Pl,27,2,super-rod,340,20,50

Pl,27,3,super-rod,318,40,55

Pl,27,4,super-rod,318,40,55

D|P,28,0,grass,194,20

D|P,28,1,grass,400,21

D|P,28,2,grass,406,20

D|P,28,3,grass,396,22

D|P,28,4,grass,183,21

D|P,28,5,grass,195,21

D|P,28,6,grass,183,22

D|P,28,7,grass,195,22

D|P,28,8,grass,54,22

D|P,28,9,grass,54,20

D|P,28,10,grass,399,22

D|P,28,11,grass,298,20

D|P,28,2,night,163

D|P,28,3,night,163

D|P,28,8,gba-firered,24

D|P,28,9,gba-firered,24

D|P,28,0,surfing,194,20,30

D|P,28,1,surfing,183,20,30

D|P,28,2,surfing,195,20,40

D|P,28,3,surfing,54,20,40

D|P,28,4,surfing,54,20,40

D|P,28,0,old-rod,129,4,6

D|P,28,1,old-rod,129,3,7

D|P,28,2,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,28,3,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,28,4,old-rod,129,5,10

D|P,28,0,good-rod,129,15,20

D|P,28,1,good-rod,339,15,20

D|P,28,2,good-rod,129,10,25

D|P,28,3,good-rod,130,15,30

D|P,28,4,good-rod,130,15,30

D|P,28,0,super-rod,340,30,55

D|P,28,1,super-rod,318,15,20

D|P,28,2,super-rod,130,40,55

D|P,28,3,super-rod,318,15,30

D|P,28,4,super-rod,318,15,30

Pl,28,0,grass,194,26

Pl,28,1,grass,400,26

Pl,28,2,grass,400,27

Pl,28,3,grass,193,26

Pl,28,4,grass,193,27

Pl,28,5,grass,195,28

Pl,28,6,grass,194,27

Pl,28,7,grass,194,28

Pl,28,8,grass,193,28

Pl,28,9,grass,114,28

Pl,28,10,grass,193,29

Pl,28,11,grass,114,29

Pl,28,2,night,163

Pl,28,3,night,163

Pl,28,6,pokeradar,193

Pl,28,7,pokeradar,195

Pl,28,10,pokeradar,193

Pl,28,11,pokeradar,114

Pl,28,8,gba-firered,24

Pl,28,9,gba-firered,24

Pl,28,0,surfing,194,20,30

Pl,28,1,surfing,194,20,30

Pl,28,2,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,28,3,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,28,4,surfing,195,20,40

Pl,28,0,old-rod,129,3,6

Pl,28,1,old-rod,129,4,7

Pl,28,2,old-rod,129,5,10

Pl,28,3,old-rod,129,5,10

Pl,28,4,old-rod,129,5,15

Pl,28,0,good-rod,129,15,20

Pl,28,1,good-rod,339,15,20

Pl,28,2,good-rod,129,10,25

Pl,28,3,good-rod,339,10,25

Pl,28,4,good-rod,339,10,25

Pl,28,0,super-rod,130,30,55

Pl,28,1,super-rod,318,30,40

Pl,28,2,super-rod,340,20,50

Pl,28,3,super-rod,318,40,55

Pl,28,4,super-rod,318,40,55

You can tell from this data that there are descrete levels and rarities which change between the different areas.
This mistake has been made throughout all of bulbapedia's location project.
I will get the daily great marsh zone pokemon rarities later.
[[User:Sabresite|Sabresite]] 03:13, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
:Can you put that in the chart format which we have? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:23, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
::Yes when I get time, I will do this. I posted the long spam so that someone who has the time, can do it for me. If a pokemon appears multiple times with the same level, simply add the percentages for each slot and that is the total rarity. Keep in mind that rarity changes from night to day, or with the dongles present. [[User:Sabresite|Sabresite]] 03:39, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

== Platinum ==

Err, should the article mention that the place was redesigned in Platinum? The rough layout is the same (the railway tracks and platforms are still there, and it's still the same size and shape), but a lot of little details have been changed. The mud also looks a lot different (there are light and dark patches indicating where you can walk without falling) and it actually has unique grass-in-mud graphics too. All in all it's substantially nicer. [[User:Darien Shields|Darien Shields]] 12:30, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

==Drapion!==

I caught a Drapion in my Platinum copy, and it doesn't say so in the article!! :P [[User:YukitoOoO|YukitoOoO]] 00:10, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

== Toxicroak! ==

I caught a Toxicroak in my Platinum version just as YukitoOoO caught a Drapion in their Platinum version. --[[User:Kamikami|Kamikami]] 00:26, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

== Carvanha ==

I keep finding low lvl (16-20) Carvanha in the safarizone. im sing a super rod, yet it says on the list they 30+.i havent found 1 over 20. shold this be mentioned?--[[User:Ben7229|Ben7229]] 21:50, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

== Merge the platinum pre-national list? ==

Why is the set of three additional Pokémon available in platinum before the national Pokédex given it's own list? The availability marks should be enough. [[User:Kendai|~Kendai]] 10:03, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
:To signify the difference? Because someone was lazy when Pt came out? Change it if you want - it's a wiki, after all. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:24, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

== Shards in Platinum ==

Um, the Ace Trainer (or guy with green hair) doesn't just give you a green shard (he just gave me a blue shard today). He gives you a random shard each day, think someone should correct that. ----[[User:NateVirus|NateVirus]]''([[User talk:NateVirus|Talk]]''|''[[Special:Contributions/NateVirus|Contributions]]'') 03:13, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

== Item list is lousy. ==

Someone needs to redo the list of items and where they are located for those who play platinum. I tried to use it, and almost nothing was where it said it would be. Some I couldn't find at all. Will someone please fix this. I would, but I can't remember where I found items and what they were. All I remember is that the Rare candy was the only item that was where the list said it would be. Someone also needs to change the map to one that shows the layout of the marsh in Platinum.--[[User:Toolen|Toolen]] ([[User talk:Toolen|talk]]) 22:32, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

==Quick Tram==
Should an area be added for the Quick Tram?[[User:152105|152105]] ([[User talk:152105|talk]]) 20:18, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

== Variable Pokémon reloadable? ==

I am attempting to complete my Pokédex, and was wondering whether you can manipulate the Pokémon that appear like you can with the Trophy Garden, or just have to wait a day like with Swarms. Also, either way, could someone add it to the page? (I don't see it there) Bookwyrm1357 06:55, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
:I'm not sure if this will work, but you may get different Pokemon if you set your DS's clock a day forward if you find the current Pokemon in the marsh are not what you want. --[[User:NOBODY|NOBODY]] ([[User talk:NOBODY|talk]]) 19:43, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
::The way daily events often work, you could probably save during one day, and, until you actually save again when it's a new day, you can load and reset your game as often as you need to until the right Pokemon is appearing. You could try that. If you mess with the clock, I think it makes you wait a day anyway until you can do time-based events again. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 20:11, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

Great Marsh

2015-05-02T10:13:33Z

Olaf: /* Capturing Pokémon */ See discussion, the bait/mud mechanic was reversed.

{{Infobox location
|image=Great Marsh Pt.png
|type=Marsh
|location_name=Great Marsh
|japanese_name=だいしつげん
|translated_name=Great Marsh
|location=[[Pastoria City]]
|region=Sinnoh
|generation={{Gen|IV}}
|map=Sinnoh Pastoria City Map.png
}}

The '''Great Marsh''' (Japanese: '''だいしつげん''' ''Great Marsh'') is an area located in [[Pastoria City]]. It is [[Sinnoh]]'s [[Safari Zone]] and contains some {{OBP|Pokémon|species}} that cannot be found anywhere else in Sinnoh. It is filled with [[marsh tile|marshy areas]], which, unlike normal marsh tiles, have [[tall grass]] which are inhabited by [[wild Pokémon]].

==Functioning==
===Capturing Pokémon===
Much like other Pokémon preserves in [[Kanto]] and [[Hoenn]], the Great Marsh features a Safari Game in which {{pkmn|Trainer}}s pay {{PDollar}}500 for 30 {{ball|Safari}}s and a limited number of steps (500) to catch all the Pokémon they can.

The mechanics are similar to other Safari Zones: when a wild Pokémon appears, the player may not send out any Pokémon to {{pkmn|battle}} it, but must instead try to catch the Pokémon without harming it. The wild Pokémon may choose to flee the battle at any time, thus, catching a Pokémon in the Great Marsh requires mainly luck.

There are four options shown in the battle screen:

* '''Throw a {{ball|Safari}}''' - Throws a Safari Ball in possibility of capture. It is much the same as throwing a [[Poké Ball]] in an average Pokémon battle.
* '''Throw bait''' - Throwing bait makes a Pokémon angry and easier to catch, but makes it more likely to flee from battle.
* '''Throw mud''' - Throwing mud does the reverse of throwing bait, making a Pokémon less likely to run but harder to catch.
* '''Run from battle''' - Like in an average Pokémon battle, running away from a Pokémon will cause the battle to end.

Similar to the issue in [[Pal Park]], if the player has an {{p|Arceus}} in the front of their party, holding a Plate, and initiates a battle, [[Game freeze|the game will freeze]].

The area was redesigned in Pokémon Platinum to feature slightly upgraded graphics that allow the player to distinguish between deep and shallow mud. The park is still divided into six areas, but the individual areas have slightly different layouts.

===Changing Pokémon===
[[File:Great Marsh binoculars view Pt.png|thumb|200px|Using the binoculars to spot Pokémon]]
Some Pokémon will not always appear in the Marsh. Each day, the Pokémon will change, therefore, to get a new set, players must wait a day. These Pokémon will appear randomly in one of the six areas, some may not appear for a while, while others appear several days in a row or in multiple areas on the same day. Some may not appear until after getting the [[National Pokédex]]. The only way to tell which changing Pokémon is available in the areas for the day is to use the lookout upstairs from the entrance. [[Record mixing]] also changes the changing Pokémon of the day in the Great Marsh so all players mixing records have the same Pokémon on the same day.

In order to find out what Pokémon are going to be in each area daily, the player is able to walk up to the second floor in the lobby, and use the binoculars and look out onto the marsh. For {{PDollar}}100 players can get a brief glimpse of the Great Marsh showing certain Pokémon in certain areas of the marsh. In each slide, a part of the park will appear with a Pokémon in the center of the slide that can be found in that area.

==Details==
As with previous Safari Zones, Pokémon are made easier and harder to catch by modifying their [[catch rate]]s. An escape rate is also given for each Pokémon that appear in the Great Marsh. The escape rates for Pokémon are the same for all [[Generation IV]] games, except that those who do not appear in the Great Marsh or the [[Johto Safari Zone]] do not have their escape rates defined in the relevant games.

At the start of an encounter, both rates are set to their species defaults. Throwing Bait will lower the escape rate by one stage, but will also have a 90% chance of lowering the catch rate by one stage. Conversely, throwing Mud will raise the catch rate by one stage, but will also have a 90% chance of raising the escape rate by one stage. Stages for catch rates and escape rates work identically to {{stat|Stages|stat stages}}: they may not be raised above +6 or below -6, where 0 is the starting stage. The stage multipliers applied to the catch rates and escape rates are also identical to that of stat stages.

At the end of each turn, a random number between 0 and 255 is generated, and if it is less than the modified stat stage, the Pokémon escapes.

==Items==
[[File:Great Marsh train Pt.png|thumb|200px|Getting off the rail]]
[[File:Great Marsh numbered DP.png|thumb|200px|Area divisions{{sup/4|DP}}]]
[[File:Great Marsh numbered Pt.png|thumb|200px|Area divisions{{sup/4|Pt}}]]
'''Entrance'''
{{itlisth|Marsh}}
{{Itemlist|Safari Ball|To be used during the Safari game; cannot be kept|D=yes|P=yes|Pt=yes|display={{ball|Safari}} ×30}}
{{Itemlist|None|sprite=370MS|Reward for capturing five Pokémon in a single Safari game|Pt=yes|display={{DL|Pokétch|Matchup Checker}}}}
{{itlistfoot|Marsh}}

'''Area 1'''
{{itlisth|Marsh}}
{{Itemlist|Potion|Near the train stop|D=yes|P=yes|display={{DL|Potion|Potion}}}}
{{itemlist|Poké Ball|Northwest of man wearing hat|Pt=yes|display={{DL|Poké Ball|Generation I Poké Balls|Poké Ball}}}}
{{Itemlist|Super Repel|Northwest of train stop|D=yes|P=yes|display={{DL|Repel|Super Repel}}}}
{{Itemlist|Yellow Shard|West of train stop|Pt=yes|display={{DL|Shard|Yellow Shard}}}}
{{Itemlist|Rare Candy|In the most northwestern corner ''(hidden)''|D=yes|P=yes|Pt=yes|display={{DL|Vitamin|Rare Candy}}}}
{{itlistfoot|Marsh}}

'''Area 2'''
{{itlisth|Marsh}}
{{Itemlist|Great Ball|East of the train stop|D=yes|P=yes|display={{ball|Great}}}}
{{itemlist|Blue Shard|North of the ledge|Pt=yes|display={{DL|Shard|Blue Shard}}}}
{{Itemlist|Toxic Plate|In the trees on the northern edge, directly above the woman with the parasol ''(hidden)''|D=yes|P=yes|display={{DL|Plate|Toxic Plate}}}}
{{Itemlist|Toxic Plate|In the northeastern corner, 3 tiles north from the southern fallen tree ''(hidden)''|Pt=yes|display={{DL|Plate|Toxic Plate}}}}
{{itlistfoot|Marsh}}

'''Area 3'''
{{itlisth|Marsh}}
{{Itemlist|Honey|On the far west side, north of the man who incorrectly describes Bait and Mud|D=yes|P=yes}}
{{itemlist|Great Ball|South of man who describes bait and mud|Pt=yes|display={{ball|Great}}}}
{{Itemlist|Ultra Ball|West of the train stop, about halfway across the area ''(hidden)''|D=yes|P=yes|display={{ball|Ultra}}}}
{{itemlist|Leaf Stone|Near the center, in the middle of the large area of mud ''(hidden)''|Pt=yes|display={{DL|Evolutionary Stone|Leaf Stone}}}}
{{itlistfoot|Marsh}}

'''Area 4'''
{{itlisth|Marsh}}
{{Itemlist|Super Potion|East side, above a ledge|D=yes|P=yes|display={{DL|Potion|Super Potion}}}}
{{itemlist|Poké Ball|South of Bug Catcher, below a ledge|Pt=yes|display={{ball|Poké}}}}
{{Itemlist|Poké Ball|Northeast of the train stop|D=yes|P=yes|display={{ball|Poké}}}}
{{itemlist|Green Shard|Northwest of Bug Catcher|Pt=yes|display={{DL|Shard|Green Shard}}}}
{{Itemlist|Nugget|In the trees north-east of the large eastern pond ''(hidden)''|D=yes|P=yes|display={{DL|Valuable item|Nugget}}}}
{{itemlist|Hyper Potion|Northwest of Green Shard, at the end of a "dead-end" path of bog ''(hidden)''|Pt=yes|display={{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}}}
{{itlistfoot|Marsh}}

'''Area 5'''
{{itlisth|Marsh}}
{{Itemlist|Antidote|Near train stop|D=yes|P=yes|display={{DL|Status ailment healing item|Antidote}}}}
{{itemlist|Great Ball|West of train stop|Pt=yes|display={{ball|Great}}}}
{{Itemlist|Full Heal|Northwest of the Antidote ''(hidden)''|D=yes|P=yes|display={{DL|Status ailment healing item|Full Heal}}}}
{{itemlist|Big Mushroom|On the south side, on the ground in the small corner without mud ''(hidden)''|Pt=yes|display={{DL|Valuable item|Big Mushroom}}}}
{{itlistfoot|Marsh}}

'''Area 6'''
{{itlisth|Marsh}}
{{Itemlist|HM Normal|From the boy with green hair when entering the marsh|D=yes|P=yes|display={{HM|05|Defog}}}}
{{Itemlist|Red Shard|Given at random from the boy with green hair when entering the marsh a different day|Pt=yes|display={{DL|Shard|Red Shard}}}}
{{Itemlist|Green Shard|Given at random from the boy with green hair when entering the marsh a different day|Pt=yes|display={{DL|Shard|Green Shard}}}}
{{Itemlist|Blue Shard|Given at random from the boy with green hair when entering the marsh a different day|Pt=yes|display={{DL|Shard|Blue Shard}}}}
{{Itemlist|Yellow Shard|Given at random from the boy with green hair when entering the marsh a different day|Pt=yes|display={{DL|Shard|Yellow Shard}}}}
{{Itemlist|Parlyz Heal|Northeast corner of the pond|D=yes|P=yes|display={{DL|Status ailment healing item|Parlyz Heal}}}}
{{Itemlist|Red Shard|Southeast corner of the pond|Pt=yes|display={{DL|Shard|Red Shard}}}}
{{Itemlist|Hyper Potion|A couple of steps below the Parlyz Heal ''(hidden)''|D=yes|P=yes|display={{DL|Potion|Hyper Potion}}}}
{{itemlist|Max Repel|A couple of steps below the Red Shard, in the middle of the mud ''(hidden)''|Pt=yes|display={{DL|Repel|Max Repel}}}}
{{itlistfoot|Marsh}}

==Pokémon==
;All Areas{{tt|*|where surfing/fishing are possible}}
{{catch/header|marsh|4}}
{{catch/div|water|Surfing}}
{{catch/entry4|054|Psyduck|yes|yes|no|Surf|20-40|all=5%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entry4|183|Marill|yes|yes|no|Surf|20-30|all=30%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entry4|194|Wooper|yes|yes|no|Surf|20-30|all=60%|type1=Water|type2=Ground}}
{{catch/entry4|194|Wooper|no|no|yes|Surf|20-30|all=90%|type1=Water|type2=Ground}}
{{catch/entry4|195|Quagsire|yes|yes|no|Surf|20-40|all=5%|type1=Water|type2=Ground}}
{{catch/entry4|195|Quagsire|no|no|yes|Surf|20-40|all=10%|type1=Water|type2=Ground}}
{{catch/div|water|Fishing}}
{{catch/entry4|129|Magikarp|yes|yes|no|Fish Old|3-10|all=100%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entry4|129|Magikarp|no|no|yes|Fish Old|3-15|all=100%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entry4|129|Magikarp|yes|yes|yes|Fish Good|10-25|all=55%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entry4|130|Gyarados|yes|yes|no|Fish Good|15-30|all=5%|type1=Water|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry4|339|Barboach|yes|yes|no|Fish Good|15-20|all=40%|type1=Water|type2=Ground}}
{{catch/entry4|339|Barboach|no|no|yes|Fish Good|10-25|all=45%|type1=Water|type2=Ground}}
{{catch/entry4|130|Gyarados|yes|yes|no|Fish Super|40-55|all=15%|type1=Water|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry4|130|Gyarados|no|no|yes|Fish Super|30-55|all=40%|type1=Water|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry4|318|Carvanha|yes|yes|no|Fish Super|15-30|all=45%|type1=Water|type2=Dark}}
{{catch/entry4|318|Carvanha|no|no|yes|Fish Super|30-55|all=45%|type1=Water|type2=Dark}}
{{catch/entry4|340|Whiscash|yes|yes|no|Fish Super|30-55|all=40%|type1=Water|type2=Ground}}
{{catch/entry4|340|Whiscash|no|no|yes|Fish Super|20-50|all=15%|type1=Water|type2=Ground}}
{{catch/footer|marsh}}

;Areas 1 and 2
{{catch/header|marsh}}
{{catch/entry4|054|Psyduck|yes|yes|no|Grass|24,26|all=8%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entry4|114|Tangela|no|no|yes|Grass|30-31|all=5%|type1=Grass}}
{{catch/entry4|163|Hoothoot|yes|yes|no|Grass|24|0%|0%|10%|type1=Normal|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry4|164|Noctowl|yes|yes|no|Grass|26|0%|0%|10%|type1=Normal|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry4|164|Noctowl|no|no|yes|Grass|28,30|0%|0%|20%|type1=Normal|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry4|183|Marill|yes|yes|no|Grass|25-26|all=15%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entry4|193|Yanma|no|no|yes|Grass|30-31|all=5%|type1=Bug|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry4|194|Wooper|yes|yes|no|Grass|24|all=20%|type1=Water|type2=Ground}}
{{catch/entry4|194|Wooper|no|no|yes|Grass|28-30|all=40%|type1=Water|type2=Ground}}
{{catch/entry4|195|Quagsire|yes|yes|no|Grass|25-26|all=15%|type1=Water|type2=Ground}}
{{catch/entry4|195|Quagsire|no|no|yes|Grass|30|all=10%|type1=Water|type2=Ground}}
{{catch/entry4|298|Azurill|yes|yes|no|Grass|24|all=1%|type1=Normal}}
{{catch/entry4|357|Tropius|no|no|yes|Grass|28,30|20%|20%|0%|type1=Grass|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry4|396|Starly|yes|yes|no|Grass|26|10%|10%|0%|type1=Normal|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry4|399|Bidoof|yes|yes|no|Grass|26|all=1%|type1=Normal}}
{{catch/entry4|400|Bibarel|yes|yes|no|Grass|25|all=20%|type1=Normal|type2=Water}}
{{catch/entry4|400|Bibarel|no|no|yes|Grass|28|all=20%|type1=Normal|type2=Water}}
{{catch/entry4|406|Budew|yes|yes|no|Grass|24|10%|10%|0%|type1=Grass|type2=Poison}}
{{catch/div|marsh|Special}}
{{catch/entry4|024|Arbok|yes|yes|no|FR|24,26|all=8%|type1=Poison}}
{{catch/entry4|024|Arbok|no|no|yes|FR|30|all=8%|type1=Poison}}
{{catch/footer|marsh}}

;Areas 3 and 4
{{catch/header|marsh}}
{{catch/entry4|054|Psyduck|yes|yes|no|Grass|22,24|all=8%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entry4|114|Tangela|no|no|yes|Grass|27-30|25%|25%|0%|type1=Grass}}
{{catch/entry4|114|Tangela|no|no|yes|Grass|28-30|0%|0%|15%|type1=Grass}}
{{catch/entry4|163|Hoothoot|yes|yes|no|Grass|22,24|0%|0%|20%|type1=Normal|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry4|163|Hoothoot|no|no|yes|Grass|27|0%|0%|10%|type1=Normal|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry4|164|Noctowl|no|no|yes|Grass|28|0%|0%|10%|type1=Normal|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry4|183|Marill|yes|yes|no|Grass|23-24|all=15%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entry4|193|Yanma|no|no|yes|Grass|29-30|all=5%|type1=Bug|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry4|194|Wooper|yes|yes|no|Grass|22|all=20%|type1=Water|type2=Ground}}
{{catch/entry4|194|Wooper|no|no|yes|Grass|27-29|all=30%|type1=Water|type2=Ground}}
{{catch/entry4|195|Quagsire|yes|yes|no|Grass|23-24|all=15%|type1=Water|type2=Ground}}
{{catch/entry4|195|Quagsire|no|no|yes|Grass|29|all=10%|type1=Water|type2=Ground}}
{{catch/entry4|298|Azurill|yes|yes|no|Grass|22|all=1%|type1=Normal}}
{{catch/entry4|396|Starly|yes|yes|no|Grass|24|10%|10%|0%|type1=Normal|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry4|399|Bidoof|yes|yes|no|Grass|24|all=1%|type1=Normal}}
{{catch/entry4|400|Bibarel|yes|yes|no|Grass|23|all=20%|type1=Normal|type2=Water}}
{{catch/entry4|400|Bibarel|no|no|yes|Grass|27-28|30%|30%|0%|type1=Normal|type2=Water}}
{{catch/entry4|400|Bibarel|no|no|yes|Grass|27|0%|0%|20%|type1=Normal|type2=Water}}
{{catch/entry4|406|Budew|yes|yes|no|Grass|22|10%|10%|0%|type1=Grass|type2=Poison}}
{{catch/div|marsh|Special}}
{{catch/entry4|024|Arbok|yes|yes|no|FR|22,24|all=8%|type1=Poison}}
{{catch/entry4|024|Arbok|no|no|yes|FR|29|all=8%|type1=Poison}}
{{catch/footer|marsh}}

;Area 5
{{catch/header|marsh}}
{{catch/entry4|114|Tangela|no|no|yes|Grass|28-29|all=5%|type1=Grass}}
{{catch/entry4|163|Hoothoot|yes|yes|no|Grass|20,22|0%|0%|20%|type1=Normal|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry4|163|Hoothoot|no|no|yes|Grass|26-27|0%|0%|20%|type1=Normal|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry4|183|Marill|yes|yes|no|Grass|21-22|all=15%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entry4|193|Yanma|no|no|yes|Grass|26-29|25%|25%|0%|type1=Bug|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry4|193|Yanma|no|no|yes|Grass|27-29|0%|0%|15%|type1=Bug|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry4|194|Wooper|yes|yes|no|Grass|20|all=20%|type1=Water|type2=Ground}}
{{catch/entry4|194|Wooper|no|no|yes|Grass|26-28|all=30%|type1=Water|type2=Ground}}
{{catch/entry4|195|Quagsire|yes|yes|no|Grass|21-22|all=15%|type1=Water|type2=Ground}}
{{catch/entry4|195|Quagsire|no|no|yes|Grass|28|all=10%|type1=Water|type2=Ground}}
{{catch/entry4|298|Azurill|yes|yes|no|Grass|20|all=5%|type1=Normal}}
{{catch/entry4|396|Starly|yes|yes|no|Grass|22|10%|10%|0%|type1=Normal|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry4|399|Bidoof|yes|yes|no|Grass|22|all=5%|type1=Normal}}
{{catch/entry4|400|Bibarel|yes|yes|no|Grass|21|all=20%|type1=Normal|type2=Water}}
{{catch/entry4|400|Bibarel|no|no|yes|Grass|26-27|30%|30%|0%|type1=Normal|type2=Water}}
{{catch/entry4|400|Bibarel|no|no|yes|Grass|26|0%|0%|20%|type1=Normal|type2=Water}}
{{catch/entry4|406|Budew|yes|yes|no|Grass|20|10%|10%|0%|type1=Grass|type2=Poison}}
{{catch/div|marsh|Special}}
{{catch/entry4|024|Arbok|yes|yes|no|FR|20,22|all=8%|type1=Poison}}
{{catch/entry4|024|Arbok|no|no|yes|FR|28|all=8%|type1=Poison}}
{{catch/footer|marsh}}

;Area 6
{{catch/header|marsh}}
{{catch/entry4|054|Psyduck|yes|yes|no|Grass|20,22|all=8%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entry4|114|Tangela|no|no|yes|Grass|28-29|all=5%|type1=Grass}}
{{catch/entry4|163|Hoothoot|yes|yes|no|Grass|20,22|0%|0%|20%|type1=Normal|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry4|163|Hoothoot|no|no|yes|Grass|26-27|0%|0%|20%|type1=Normal|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry4|183|Marill|yes|yes|no|Grass|21-22|all=15%|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entry4|193|Yanma|no|no|yes|Grass|26-29|25%|25%|0%|type1=Bug|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry4|193|Yanma|no|no|yes|Grass|27-29|0%|0%|15%|type1=Bug|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry4|194|Wooper|yes|yes|no|Grass|20|all=20%|type1=Water|type2=Ground}}
{{catch/entry4|194|Wooper|no|no|yes|Grass|26-28|all=30%|type1=Water|type2=Ground}}
{{catch/entry4|195|Quagsire|yes|yes|no|Grass|21-22|all=15%|type1=Water|type2=Ground}}
{{catch/entry4|195|Quagsire|no|no|yes|Grass|28|all=10%|type1=Water|type2=Ground}}
{{catch/entry4|298|Azurill|yes|yes|no|Grass|20|all=1%|type1=Normal}}
{{catch/entry4|396|Starly|yes|yes|no|Grass|22|10%|10%|0%|type1=Normal|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry4|399|Bidoof|yes|yes|no|Grass|22|all=1%|type1=Normal}}
{{catch/entry4|400|Bibarel|yes|yes|no|Grass|21|all=20%|type1=Normal|type2=Water}}
{{catch/entry4|400|Bibarel|no|no|yes|Grass|26-27|30%|30%|0%|type1=Normal|type2=Water}}
{{catch/entry4|400|Bibarel|no|no|yes|Grass|26|0%|0%|20%|type1=Normal|type2=Water}}
{{catch/entry4|406|Budew|yes|yes|no|Grass|20|10%|10%|0%|type1=Grass|type2=Poison}}
{{catch/div|marsh|Special}}
{{catch/entry4|024|Arbok|yes|yes|no|FR|20,22|all=8%|type1=Poison}}
{{catch/entry4|024|Arbok|no|no|yes|FR|28|all=8%|type1=Poison}}
{{catch/footer|marsh}}

===Changing Pokémon===
The "rates" below are the chances for that Pokémon to be selected to appear in an area. All of these Pokémon will appear with a 10% encounter rate within the Great Marsh, or a 10% greater rate if they were already present. In Diamond and Pearl, the changing Pokémon's encounter rate is compensated (so that all encounter rates sum to 100%) by lowering the encounter rate of {{p|Marill}} and {{p|Quagsire}} in the same area (as seen above) by 5% each, while in Platinum, it is compensated by lowering the encounter rate of {{p|Wooper}} by 10%. The way this works in the games, this means that if Wooper is selected as the changing Pokémon in Platinum, there is no change to the tables shown above.

{{catch/header|marsh|4}}
{{catch/entry4|055|Golduck|yes|yes|no|Grass|22,24,26|all=3/32|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entry4|114|Tangela|no|no|yes|Grass|27-30|all=1/32|type1=Grass}}
{{catch/entry4|193|Yanma|no|no|yes|Grass|27-30|all=1/32|type1=Bug|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry4|195|Quagsire|no|no|yes|Grass|27-30|all=2/32|type1=Water|type2=Ground}}
{{catch/entry4|315|Roselia|yes|yes|no|Grass|22,24,26|all=3/32|type1=Grass|type2=Poison}}
{{catch/entry4|357|Tropius|no|no|yes|Grass|27-30|all=1/32|type1=Grass|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry4|397|Staravia|yes|yes|no|Grass|22,24,26|all=3/32|type1=Normal|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry4|451|Skorupi|yes|yes|no|Grass|22,24,26|all=5/32|type1=Poison|type2=Bug}}
{{catch/entry4|451|Skorupi|no|no|yes|Grass|27-30|all=5/32|type1=Poison|type2=Bug}}
{{catch/entry4|453|Croagunk|yes|yes|no|Grass|22,24,26|all=5/32|type1=Poison|type2=Fighting}}
{{catch/entry4|453|Croagunk|no|no|yes|Grass|27-30|all=4/32|type1=Poison|type2=Fighting}}
{{catch/entry4|455|Carnivine|yes|yes|no|Grass|22,24,26|all=5/32|type1=Grass}}
{{catch/entry4|455|Carnivine|no|no|yes|Grass|27-30|all=3/32|type1=Grass}}
{{catch/div|marsh|Pre-National Pokédex only}}
{{catch/entry4|183|Marill|yes|yes|no|Grass|22,24,26|all=1/32|type1=Water}}
{{catch/entry4|194|Wooper|yes|yes|no|Grass|22,24,26|all=2/32|type1=Water|type2=Ground}}
{{catch/entry4|194|Wooper|no|no|yes|Grass|27-30|all=15/32|type1=Water|type2=Ground}}
{{catch/entry4|195|Quagsire|yes|yes|no|Grass|22,24,26|all=1/32|type1=Water|type2=Ground}}
{{catch/entry4|298|Azurill|yes|yes|no|Grass|22,24,26|all=2/32|type1=Normal}}
{{catch/entry4|399|Bidoof|yes|yes|no|Grass|22,24,26|all=1/32|type1=Normal}}
{{catch/entry4|400|Bibarel|yes|yes|no|Grass|22,24,26|all=1/32|type1=Normal|type2=Water}}
{{catch/div|marsh|Post-National Pokédex}}
{{catch/entry4|046|Paras|yes|yes|no|Grass|22,24,26|all=1/32|type1=Bug|type2=Grass}}
{{catch/entry4|046|Paras|no|no|yes|Grass|27-30|all=2/32|type1=Bug|type2=Grass}}
{{catch/entry4|102|Exeggcute|yes|yes|no|Grass|22,24,26|all=1/32|type1=Grass|type2=Psychic}}
{{catch/entry4|102|Exeggcute|no|no|yes|Grass|27-30|all=2/32|type1=Grass|type2=Psychic}}
{{catch/entry4|115|Kangaskhan|yes|yes|no|Grass|22,24,26|all=1/32|type1=Normal}}
{{catch/entry4|115|Kangaskhan|no|no|yes|Grass|27-30|all=2/32|type1=Normal}}
{{catch/entry4|193|Yanma|yes|yes|no|Grass|22,24,26|all=1/32|type1=Bug|type2=Flying}}
{{catch/entry4|285|Shroomish|yes|yes|no|Grass|22,24,26|all=1/32|type1=Grass}}
{{catch/entry4|285|Shroomish|no|no|yes|Grass|27-30|all=2/32|type1=Grass}}
{{catch/entry4|316|Gulpin|yes|yes|no|Grass|22,24,26|all=1/32|type1=Poison}}
{{catch/entry4|316|Gulpin|no|no|yes|Grass|27-30|all=2/32|type1=Poison}}
{{catch/entry4|352|Kecleon|no|no|yes|Grass|27-30|all=2/32|type1=Normal}}
{{catch/entry4|452|Drapion|yes|yes|no|Grass|22,24,26|all=1/32|type1=Poison|type2=Dark}}
{{catch/entry4|452|Drapion|no|no|yes|Grass|27-30|all=2/32|type1=Poison|type2=Dark}}
{{catch/entry4|454|Toxicroak|yes|yes|no|Grass|22,24,26|all=1/32|type1=Poison|type2=Fighting}}
{{catch/entry4|454|Toxicroak|no|no|yes|Grass|27-30|all=1/32|type1=Poison|type2=Fighting}}
{{catch/footer|marsh}}

==Layout==
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; background: #000; border: 3px solid #{{locationcolor/dark|marsh}}"
|-
! style="background:#{{locationcolor/light|marsh}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | Version
! style="background:#{{locationcolor/light|marsh}}" | Entrance 1F
! style="background:#{{locationcolor/light|marsh}}" | Entrance 2F
! style="background:#{{locationcolor/light|marsh}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | Marsh
|-
! style="background:#{{diamond color}}" | {{color2|000|Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|Diamond}}
| rowspan="3" | [[File:Great Marsh Entrance 1F DPPt.png|192px]]
| rowspan="3" | [[File:Great Marsh Entrance 2F DPPt.png|192px]]
| rowspan="2" | [[File:Great Marsh DP.png|250px]]
|-
! style="background:#{{pearl color}}" | {{color2|000|Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|Pearl}}
|-
! style="background:#{{platinum color}}" | {{color2|000|Pokémon Platinum Version|Platinum}}
| [[File:Great Marsh Pt.png|250px]]
|-
| colspan="4" style="background:#{{locationcolor/light|marsh}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}" |  
|}

==In the anime==
[[File:Great Marsh anime.png|thumb|200px|right|The Great Marsh in the anime]]
As a boy, [[James]] was exploring the Great Marsh, and found a {{TP|James|Carnivine}} stuck in the mud, struggling to get free. James pulled it out, and they became friends. Carnivine was James's friend ever since, and, during Team Rocket's journey through Sinnoh, traveled with James.

In ''[[DP082|Cream of the Croagunk Crop!]]'', {{an|Brock}} and his {{TP|Brock|Croagunk}} participate in a {{p|Croagunk}} [[Pastoria Croagunk Festival|festival]] held in the Great Marsh.

==In the manga==
===In the Pokémon Adventures manga===
In ''[[PS364|A Skuffle with Skorupi]]'', {{adv|Diamond}}, {{adv|Pearl}} and {{adv|Platinum}} come here after [[Crasher Wake]]'s assistant recommends Platinum to get a Grass-type Pokémon before challenging the Gym Leader. Here Platinum tries to catch various Pokémon, like {{p|Skorupi}} with no success. At some point, they get trapped in the mud. Meanwhile, wild Carnivine attacks [[Chatler]] and {{adv|Lax}}, who fight it and win. Diamond and Pearl notice that Platinum has sank in to the mud. [[Chimler]] saves her, after which they leave, empty handed.

==Trivia==
* A man in the Great Marsh incorrectly states that both the Bait and the Mud make Pokémon more likely to run but easier to catch.
* If the player uses the [[Cheating|walk through walls cheat]] to enter the Great Marsh, the changing Pokémon won't appear.
* In {{v2|Platinum}}, if the player encounters a Pokémon when they would normally would "pop" out of deep mud, a glitch exists where upon exiting the battle, it will seem that the player is still "stuck", despite being able to move around normally. The effects of this glitch are most obvious when the player attempts to move to a tile with dry land after performing the glitch.

==In other languages==
{{Langtable|color={{locationcolor/light|marsh}}|bordercolor={{locationcolor/dark|marsh}}
|zh_cmn=大濕地 ''Dà Shīdì''
|fi=Suursuo
|fr_eu=Grand Marais
|de=Großmoor
|it=Gran Palude
|ko=대습초원 ''Dae Seupchoweon''
|es_eu=Gran Pantano}}

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[[ja:ノモセだいしつげん]]
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[[zh:大湿地]]