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Talk:Dialga (Pokémon)

2012-03-02T17:55:47Z

Nevan: /* Pokedex Entry */

== Most resistances ==
Hmm, Dialga does not have the most resistances, the Magnemite and its evolutions do, with one immunity and twelve resistances, two of them being doubly strong, albeit having more weaknesses. I'll make a change.

== Japanese pronunciation ==
Why do you people believe it's japanese name is "Dialga" when it's really Diaruga? Unsigned comment by {{u|IDeoxys}}
:Same thing. Dialga is the romanized version.--[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|ElectAbuzzzz]] 19:38, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

:Diaruga is how it's pronounced, but the official Nintendo romanization is Dialga. --'''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 23:45, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

:Remember that ル is how Japanese people write "l" and "ru"; despite the fact that they are limited in writing, they pronounce "l" - just with an accent. [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 13:24, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

== Capture Dialga ==

Dialga is realy hard to catch {{unsigned|23water23|12:20, 6 September 2007}}

:Dialga and Palkia are the easiest legendaries to catch. I caught my Dialga in the first turn with a Quick Ball. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 12:43, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

:Are you kidding me?? All I had to do is change the clock to make it "night" and I caught Palkia with a Dusk Ball. Never waste your Master Ball on something like Dialga or Palkia. [[User:Dialgarules|Dialgarules]] 22:17, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

It's funny, cuz everyone wastes their master ball on him, when you should use it on Regigigas, or Cresselia. [[User:LordKaien|LordKaien]] 20:22, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
:I still have my masterball, I caught palkia with a pokeball (no lie, he was asleep with no health left)[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|C is for Cookie]] 20:29, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
::From my experiance, Dialga and {{p|Palkia}} is the most easiest legendary to capture. Never, ever, ever use a Master Ball. A huge waste. [[User:DragonTamer|DragonTamer]] 06:49, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Anybody know that Dialga and Palkia have the same catch rate as a Chatot? {{u|Uxie Legend}} 13:16, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

I caught mine with a normal Pokéball while he was at half health and he kept on resisting my ultra balls no status problems or anything.

==Unique levels to be found at.==
This was recently removed from the trivia section on this page: "* Dialga and {{p|Palkia}} are the only two legends who's levels are not a multiple of 10. Meaning, you meet all other legends at levels 30,40,50 and so on, but those two you meet at Lv. 47."
It was removed because Kyogre and Groudon are both found at level 45. My question then is, couldn't we just change the 10 to a 5 in that quote and keep it on the page? --[[User:Ozzie|Ozzie]] 21:39, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
:Well, if the trivia item was spelled that wrong, what with "who's" instead of the correct "whose" and a "you" or two in there, I can see why it was removed. It's an interesting bit of trivia, though, that D and P are the only legends met at a level that isn't an even multiple of 5. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:17, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

:In platinum, Giratina will be found at level 47 aswell [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 13:32, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

:I decided to put up the aforementioned fact about Dialga and Palkia's levels. I put it like this:
"Dialga and {{p|Palkia}} are the first legendary Pokémon to be seen at a level that is not divisible by 5, appearing at Level 47." [[User:SharKing|SharKing]] 03:28, 24 August 2008 (UTC)SharKing
::I changed First to only[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|DCM]]
:I disagree with that. Like Kanjo said, Giratina will be at 47 in Platinum. [[User:SharKing|SharKing]] 22:37, 24 August 2008 (UTC)SharKing
::Site your sources.Rayquaza was found at level 70 compared to whatever level Groudon adn Kyogre were found in ther respective games[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|DCM]]
:::Umm....{{p|Regigigas}} in Platinum... [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 22:23, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

==Trivia==
Here it says that Celebi can control the time, but Celebi just can TRAVEL in the time. Dialga is the only pokemon that can control the time (unless Arceus also can) --[[User:Nick.|Nick.]] 21:27, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
:The only way to be able to travel through time is to control it...•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 21:30, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

should we mention the fact that dialga becomes primal dialga when it loses control over time in Pokémon time explorers in the trivia?--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 14:34, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

== Catch Rate? ==

It says it the Trivia Section that [[Palkia (Pokémon)|Palkia]], Dialga, and [[Phione]], are the legendary that has the highest catch rate. But what about [[Shaymin (Pokémon)|Shaymin]]? It has a catch rate of 45!
[[User:Palkia38|Palkia38]] 03:43, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

:Well, its weird that {{p|Giratina}} is harder to catch than Dialga or {{p|Palkia}}. Weirder still, there are still other weak pokémon that is harder to catch. [[User:DragonTamer|DragonTamer]]

It was easier for me to catch Giratina in my game than Dialga.
--[[User:Pokemonfreak|Pokemonfreak]] 12:12, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

== Origin ==

Should we put {{wp|Kan-Laon}} because it is similar to dialga --[[User:Bakunawa|Bakunawa]] 07:11, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

: Kan-Laon is a deity of time in the {{wp|Philippine mythology}}. And yourname, {{wp|Bakunawa}} is a Philippine dragon that was said to swallow the moon! Dude, are you a Filipino? Looks like I've found a friend! Me a Filipino too! Mabuhay ang {{wp|Pilipinas}}!^_^[[User:Palkia38|Palkia38]] 09:29, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
::There don't seem to be ''any'' similarities besides the fact that Dialga and Kan-Laon are both time deities, so I don't see why we should.—[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 00:41, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

== Browser entry? ==

How is its browser entry currently unknown? Surely someone can extract it, plus Palkia and Shaymin's entries, from the game's data? Y'know, like what's done to find out base stats? I would be glad to do this, if I knew how. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 12:55, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

== Anime section ==

Why don't wee just make [[Dialga (anime)]] and [[Palkia (anime)]] to the main sections of the anijme versions of {{p|Dialga}} and {{p|Palkia}}? it is impossible to have multiple creators and rulers of time and space, aswell as mutliple [[Arceus (Pokémon)|multiple creators]] of the {{pkmn|universe}}. [[User:Pokémon Lover King Mario|Pokémon Lover King Mario]] 09:21, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

:Not if they are the lords of ALL time, space, and the universe. They travel the dimensions, because they created them. You might think of alternate realities/parallell dimensions, but they created those too. And basically, you're also saying we should delete the [[Giratina (anime)]] page too because he was in one movie. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 22:39, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

::Uhm, I think you might have misunderstood me a bit. I said that it only can be one creator each of time and space. Therefore, their situation is different from legendaries like {{p|Articuno}} or {{p|Heatran}}, as they basically have no function anywhere close to that. Sure, Heatran created [[Stark Mountain]]... but if it's more Heatrans in the anime, anyone of them can do so. Unlike Arceus, which it only can be one of - after all, he was the ORIGINAL One and created the friggin universe. According to the Sinnoh myths, which is canon in addition to official as they WAS WRITTEN by [[Game Freak]], Arceus only made ''one'' creator and ruler of time, and only ''one'' creator of space - Dialga and Palkia. And no, I have never said that we should delete Giratina (anime) because of that ridicouls reason - we having someting in the rules called [[Bulbapedia:Notability requirements|notability requirements]], which Giratina (anime) that Giratina and most other articles about movie Pokémon fits perfectly. [[User:Pokémon Lover King Mario|Pokémon Lover King Mario]] 18:33, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

== Dragon duo typing and appearance ==

this may be speculation but

wouldnt it make sense to put in the trivia section that Palkia and dialga's typing corresponds with the gem they have?

hard diamond has a '''steel''' hard master of time while smooth Pearl has '''water''' type considering pearls come from water

also I've noticed that palkia has some fish traits to it (the wiings look like fins) which also live in the water (palkia it'self swims through space which it controls) and dialga's dinosaur appearance can be connected to time (some of the first living creatures)

([[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 21:50, 28 May 2010 (UTC))
== Based on "''Amphicoelias" fragillimus''? ==
I have no idea how people deduce that. To most people, "''Amphicoelias''" would appear as ''Diplodocus'' did in Walking With Dinosaurs, not like a brachiosaurid or something. Granted that a 45* neck angle now seems probable in most if not all sauropods, but why single out "''A''". ''fragillimus'' and not something more well known, such as good old ''Brachiosaurus'' (which i must say resembles Diagla far more). I mean, theres debate as to weather "''A''". ''fragillimus'' is even valid, so if you must use a diplodocid, why not ''Diplodocus'' itself, or perhaps even ''Apatosaurus'' (ignore the ridiculous notion that "Amphicoelias brontodiplodocus" represents all diplodocids from the morrison formation). [[User:Spinodontosaurus|Spinodontosaurus]] 20:26, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

== Name ==

Do we really need to say that day is a unit of time?
[[User:Mpcamel1729|Origami is math for the hands. -Martin Grant, MathPath]] 02:23, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

== Moves ==
There seem to be some moves missing from the list. For example, Dialga can learn Outrage via move tutor, and Dragon Pulse via TM. Is there a reason for this? {{unsigned|Roosterton}}
:That list is only for the [[Generation V]] games, where there is no tutor who will teach Outrage and Dragon Pulse is not a TM. The [[Generation IV]] list is [[Dialga (Pokémon)/Generation IV learnset|here]], accessable by clicking the "IV" in the "Other generations" part at the top of each table. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 19:33, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

== Pokedex Entry ==
For the Pokémon Ranger: Shadows of Almia entry, with the mention of "Powerful Beam" leading to hyper beam. Wouldn't it be more likely that it's talking about [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Roar_of_Time_(move) Roar of Time?] [[User:Nevan|Nevan]] 17:54, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Dialga (Pokémon)

2012-03-02T17:55:32Z

Nevan: /* Pokedex Entry */

Talk:Dialga (Pokémon)

2012-03-02T17:54:37Z

Nevan:

== Most resistances ==
Hmm, Dialga does not have the most resistances, the Magnemite and its evolutions do, with one immunity and twelve resistances, two of them being doubly strong, albeit having more weaknesses. I'll make a change.

== Japanese pronunciation ==
Why do you people believe it's japanese name is "Dialga" when it's really Diaruga? Unsigned comment by {{u|IDeoxys}}
:Same thing. Dialga is the romanized version.--[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|ElectAbuzzzz]] 19:38, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

:Diaruga is how it's pronounced, but the official Nintendo romanization is Dialga. --'''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 23:45, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

:Remember that ル is how Japanese people write "l" and "ru"; despite the fact that they are limited in writing, they pronounce "l" - just with an accent. [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 13:24, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

== Capture Dialga ==

Dialga is realy hard to catch {{unsigned|23water23|12:20, 6 September 2007}}

:Dialga and Palkia are the easiest legendaries to catch. I caught my Dialga in the first turn with a Quick Ball. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 12:43, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

:Are you kidding me?? All I had to do is change the clock to make it "night" and I caught Palkia with a Dusk Ball. Never waste your Master Ball on something like Dialga or Palkia. [[User:Dialgarules|Dialgarules]] 22:17, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

It's funny, cuz everyone wastes their master ball on him, when you should use it on Regigigas, or Cresselia. [[User:LordKaien|LordKaien]] 20:22, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
:I still have my masterball, I caught palkia with a pokeball (no lie, he was asleep with no health left)[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|C is for Cookie]] 20:29, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
::From my experiance, Dialga and {{p|Palkia}} is the most easiest legendary to capture. Never, ever, ever use a Master Ball. A huge waste. [[User:DragonTamer|DragonTamer]] 06:49, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Anybody know that Dialga and Palkia have the same catch rate as a Chatot? {{u|Uxie Legend}} 13:16, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

I caught mine with a normal Pokéball while he was at half health and he kept on resisting my ultra balls no status problems or anything.

==Unique levels to be found at.==
This was recently removed from the trivia section on this page: "* Dialga and {{p|Palkia}} are the only two legends who's levels are not a multiple of 10. Meaning, you meet all other legends at levels 30,40,50 and so on, but those two you meet at Lv. 47."
It was removed because Kyogre and Groudon are both found at level 45. My question then is, couldn't we just change the 10 to a 5 in that quote and keep it on the page? --[[User:Ozzie|Ozzie]] 21:39, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
:Well, if the trivia item was spelled that wrong, what with "who's" instead of the correct "whose" and a "you" or two in there, I can see why it was removed. It's an interesting bit of trivia, though, that D and P are the only legends met at a level that isn't an even multiple of 5. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:17, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

:In platinum, Giratina will be found at level 47 aswell [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 13:32, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

:I decided to put up the aforementioned fact about Dialga and Palkia's levels. I put it like this:
"Dialga and {{p|Palkia}} are the first legendary Pokémon to be seen at a level that is not divisible by 5, appearing at Level 47." [[User:SharKing|SharKing]] 03:28, 24 August 2008 (UTC)SharKing
::I changed First to only[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|DCM]]
:I disagree with that. Like Kanjo said, Giratina will be at 47 in Platinum. [[User:SharKing|SharKing]] 22:37, 24 August 2008 (UTC)SharKing
::Site your sources.Rayquaza was found at level 70 compared to whatever level Groudon adn Kyogre were found in ther respective games[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|DCM]]
:::Umm....{{p|Regigigas}} in Platinum... [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 22:23, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

==Trivia==
Here it says that Celebi can control the time, but Celebi just can TRAVEL in the time. Dialga is the only pokemon that can control the time (unless Arceus also can) --[[User:Nick.|Nick.]] 21:27, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
:The only way to be able to travel through time is to control it...•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 21:30, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

should we mention the fact that dialga becomes primal dialga when it loses control over time in Pokémon time explorers in the trivia?--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 14:34, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

== Catch Rate? ==

It says it the Trivia Section that [[Palkia (Pokémon)|Palkia]], Dialga, and [[Phione]], are the legendary that has the highest catch rate. But what about [[Shaymin (Pokémon)|Shaymin]]? It has a catch rate of 45!
[[User:Palkia38|Palkia38]] 03:43, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

:Well, its weird that {{p|Giratina}} is harder to catch than Dialga or {{p|Palkia}}. Weirder still, there are still other weak pokémon that is harder to catch. [[User:DragonTamer|DragonTamer]]

It was easier for me to catch Giratina in my game than Dialga.
--[[User:Pokemonfreak|Pokemonfreak]] 12:12, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

== Origin ==

Should we put {{wp|Kan-Laon}} because it is similar to dialga --[[User:Bakunawa|Bakunawa]] 07:11, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

: Kan-Laon is a deity of time in the {{wp|Philippine mythology}}. And yourname, {{wp|Bakunawa}} is a Philippine dragon that was said to swallow the moon! Dude, are you a Filipino? Looks like I've found a friend! Me a Filipino too! Mabuhay ang {{wp|Pilipinas}}!^_^[[User:Palkia38|Palkia38]] 09:29, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
::There don't seem to be ''any'' similarities besides the fact that Dialga and Kan-Laon are both time deities, so I don't see why we should.—[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 00:41, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

== Browser entry? ==

How is its browser entry currently unknown? Surely someone can extract it, plus Palkia and Shaymin's entries, from the game's data? Y'know, like what's done to find out base stats? I would be glad to do this, if I knew how. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 12:55, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

== Anime section ==

Why don't wee just make [[Dialga (anime)]] and [[Palkia (anime)]] to the main sections of the anijme versions of {{p|Dialga}} and {{p|Palkia}}? it is impossible to have multiple creators and rulers of time and space, aswell as mutliple [[Arceus (Pokémon)|multiple creators]] of the {{pkmn|universe}}. [[User:Pokémon Lover King Mario|Pokémon Lover King Mario]] 09:21, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

:Not if they are the lords of ALL time, space, and the universe. They travel the dimensions, because they created them. You might think of alternate realities/parallell dimensions, but they created those too. And basically, you're also saying we should delete the [[Giratina (anime)]] page too because he was in one movie. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 22:39, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

::Uhm, I think you might have misunderstood me a bit. I said that it only can be one creator each of time and space. Therefore, their situation is different from legendaries like {{p|Articuno}} or {{p|Heatran}}, as they basically have no function anywhere close to that. Sure, Heatran created [[Stark Mountain]]... but if it's more Heatrans in the anime, anyone of them can do so. Unlike Arceus, which it only can be one of - after all, he was the ORIGINAL One and created the friggin universe. According to the Sinnoh myths, which is canon in addition to official as they WAS WRITTEN by [[Game Freak]], Arceus only made ''one'' creator and ruler of time, and only ''one'' creator of space - Dialga and Palkia. And no, I have never said that we should delete Giratina (anime) because of that ridicouls reason - we having someting in the rules called [[Bulbapedia:Notability requirements|notability requirements]], which Giratina (anime) that Giratina and most other articles about movie Pokémon fits perfectly. [[User:Pokémon Lover King Mario|Pokémon Lover King Mario]] 18:33, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

== Dragon duo typing and appearance ==

this may be speculation but

wouldnt it make sense to put in the trivia section that Palkia and dialga's typing corresponds with the gem they have?

hard diamond has a '''steel''' hard master of time while smooth Pearl has '''water''' type considering pearls come from water

also I've noticed that palkia has some fish traits to it (the wiings look like fins) which also live in the water (palkia it'self swims through space which it controls) and dialga's dinosaur appearance can be connected to time (some of the first living creatures)

([[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 21:50, 28 May 2010 (UTC))
== Based on "''Amphicoelias" fragillimus''? ==
I have no idea how people deduce that. To most people, "''Amphicoelias''" would appear as ''Diplodocus'' did in Walking With Dinosaurs, not like a brachiosaurid or something. Granted that a 45* neck angle now seems probable in most if not all sauropods, but why single out "''A''". ''fragillimus'' and not something more well known, such as good old ''Brachiosaurus'' (which i must say resembles Diagla far more). I mean, theres debate as to weather "''A''". ''fragillimus'' is even valid, so if you must use a diplodocid, why not ''Diplodocus'' itself, or perhaps even ''Apatosaurus'' (ignore the ridiculous notion that "Amphicoelias brontodiplodocus" represents all diplodocids from the morrison formation). [[User:Spinodontosaurus|Spinodontosaurus]] 20:26, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

== Name ==

Do we really need to say that day is a unit of time?
[[User:Mpcamel1729|Origami is math for the hands. -Martin Grant, MathPath]] 02:23, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

== Moves ==
There seem to be some moves missing from the list. For example, Dialga can learn Outrage via move tutor, and Dragon Pulse via TM. Is there a reason for this? {{unsigned|Roosterton}}
:That list is only for the [[Generation V]] games, where there is no tutor who will teach Outrage and Dragon Pulse is not a TM. The [[Generation IV]] list is [[Dialga (Pokémon)/Generation IV learnset|here]], accessable by clicking the "IV" in the "Other generations" part at the top of each table. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 19:33, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

== Pokedex Entry ==
For the Pokémon Ranger: Shadows of Almia entry, with the mention of "Powerful Beam" leading to hyper beam. Wouldn't it be more likely that it's talking about roar of time? [[User:Nevan|Nevan]] 17:54, 2 March 2012 (UTC)