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Bulbapedia:Project Walkthroughs

2010-06-25T15:43:34Z

Munchy Lax: /* Participants */

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! style="background: #F2F673;" | <big><big><big><big>Walkthroughs</big></big></big></big>
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| There is currently '''no designated [[Bulbapedia:Project Leaders|{{color|000|leader}}]]''' of this project. Please direct any questions about {{BASEPAGENAME}} or its actions to an active [[Bulbapedia:Administrators|{{color|000|administrator}}]].

If you think you are Project Leader material, see the {{bt|Project Walkthroughs|talk page}}.
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Some Bulbapedia members have formed a [[Bulbapedia:Projects|project]] to better organize efforts to write and improve '''walkthroughs'''. If you would like to help, see the [[Bulbapedia:Project Walkthroughs/To-do list]].

=Project Walkthroughs=
===Scope and aims===

Project Walkthroughs covers and aims to make articles that contain '''good quality''' step-by-step walkthroughs that help players as they progress through a game.

===Participants===
To join the project, simply add your name to the bottom of this list:

* {{u|User142}}
* {{u|Pikamikache}}
* {{u|Pokemonpearlwanter}}
* {{u|Pterodactal}}
* {{u|Maths}}
* {{u|Manaphy9}}
* {{u|Cdt888}}
* {{u|SpontaneousCombusken}}
* {{u|Galladeon}}
* {{u|Leong96}}
* {{u|Berrymaster}}
* {{u|Gligar}}
* {{u|DarkToxicroak}}
* {{u|King Leon}}
* {{u|AGGRON999}}-Pokémon Crystal
* {{u|Diby}}
* {{u|Clarky13}}
* {{u|DAWN FAN}}
* {{u|Alsabeehaazooz}}
* {{u|HybridTheory}}
* {{u|Anangryzapdos}}
* {{u|LucarioSinnoh}}
* {{u|WaterUser}}
* {{u|Malarke}}
* {{u|Smurf}}
* {{u|Banahanr}}
* {{u|Diakia}}
* {{u|Zoroark}}
* {{u|Jackowaco}}- Will work on updating/ improving Pokémon Emerald walkthrough when I find time.
* {{u|Lance123}}
* {{u|Force Fire}}
* {{u|samcharaf}}
* {{u|XRocket}}
* {{u|swampert_rox}}
* {{u|Usyflad10}} - pmd2
* {{u|AngelGuardian}}
* {{u|KCorp4000}} - started with main handhelds, will branch out from there.
* {{u|Kolink}} - starting on Crystal Walkthrough. Page should be up soon.
* {{u|CuboneKing}} - Removing things like "too lazy"...
* {{u|Crystal Shards}} - I will add what I can; to-do lists are my friend!
* {{u|GaryMaister31}}
* {{u|The Bulb's Master}} - I don't know much, but I'll do the best I can!
* {{u|Torterra2234}} - Im working on a complete guide of pokemon platinum
* {{u|tandra88}}- I began the page of Pokémon Platinum, and will be adding.
* {{u|GreenGyarados}}- Already added 16,000 bytes to [[Appendix:Platinum walkthrough|Platinum Walkthrough]]
* {{u|Don't Hug Lucario!}} - I'm working on a Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver walkthrough.
* {{u|BumpyBuddy}} - No promises
* {{u|1ted59}}
* {{u|MASTERGroudon}}-I'll help much more when Heartgold comes out. I'll do my best for now.
* {{u|Tyler53841}} - Have all the Gen. III and current Gen. IV handheld games and Battle Revolution. Can help with confirming things as well as checking spelling/grammer. Currently working on my Sapphire game to help provide the Ruby/Sapphire walkthrough with better first hand details. Current progress: 6 badges. Also currently working on with ideas to help with bring better qualities to different aspects of the walkthrough.
* {{u|Kimori-Hinoarashi}}- I have tons of games. I can help most with Ruby, Pearl, and FireRed, because they are my restart games.
* {{u|Combee123}}
* {{u|Smartkidhen}}-Might as well since I just cleaned up [[Appendix:Pokémon Mystery Dungeon opening quiz]] like crap.
* {{u|Daniel2850}} I'll do Pokémon Platinum!
* {{u|Chimtwig}} I'll help with R/S Walkthroughs!
* {{u|Chameco}} I know quite a bit, working on a combined walkthrough of all the stories, using the remakes if they are made. (Complete walkthrough of first FR/LG then HG/SS, R/S/E, D/P/Pt.
* {{u|ShinyPikachu}} I'll help with DP and Emerald walkthroughs if needed.
* {{u|Jello}} Working on HG/SS...
* {{u|Oz}} - I can work on templates, presentation and grammar. I've got ROMs for Yellow and Crystal, so I can be a proof/checker for those if needed, as well.
* {{u|Loa}}- Will try my best.
* {{u|Eeveemaniac}} - Fairly new here, but willing to lend my support. Really want to dig in and get going, but don't want to overlap or step on toes of those already in progress. Contact me if you know of something that needs done!
* {{u|Americanrebel91}}- Have walkthroughs from Gold and Silver, Crystal, Ruby and Sapphire, and Emerald.
* {{u|Turtwig A}} will attempt to help out with many walkthroughs.
* {{u|tornadoflygon}}- I'll help with the Pokémon Ranger series.
* {{u|Spritemaster}}- I can help out with Crystal Version, and maybe (no promise) help Diamond & Pearl! Contact me if you have anything I could have missed!
* [[User:?????|Any]] [[User talk:?????|Questions]]-Will do HG/SS when it comes out in English. I can also do Pearl 'cause I beat it last month.
* {{u|Smiley12}} - I have Mystery Dungeon so can help out with that.
* {{u|Hippocampus}}- I just be lazy and watch others' Walkthroughs for fun.
* {{u|lapraslover}}- I finished soulsilver,have all legendaries!
* {{u|ASCII}}
* {{u|MasterKenobi}}
* {{u|Chumsepher}}- New here, but I don't mind helping out.
* {{u|duardognn}}
* {{u|Jigglyshock}}
* {{u|Tetrix}} - I have obtained all the 16 badges in the Pokémon SoulSilver, therefore I am very clear-headed with the game. I will do my best to create an accurate walkthrough.
*{{u|Skymin23}} - SS, E, LG, D, P, Pt,
*{{u|Mattman324}} - With the influx of new challanges (IE Nuzlocke), these walkthroughs should be put on top priority so that people can watch out for potential threats to their team, or else suffer the deaths to unwanted crits/attacks. Therefore, since I am playing some of them (Currently Plat), I find that I feel the need to help.
*{{u|gamez7}} - I can help with and HG/SS related things(exept graphics). ★
*{{u|X3Totodile}} - I'm not all there yet with the games, but I can probably help in Platinum and HeartGold walkthroughs. I am new-ish here, but I can help, probably. ♥
 
*{{u|Munchy Lax}}-im new but i have managed my way through [[Pokemon Soulsilver]], [[Pokemon Platinum]], [[Pokemon Pearl]], [[Pokemon Diamond]], [[Pokemon LeafGreen]], [[Pokemon Emerald]], [[Pokemon Ruby]], [[My Pokemon Ranch]], [[Pokemon Battle Revolution]], [[Pokemon Rumble]], and [[Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Explorers of Time]].

== Structure of a page ("Pokémon ... Version") ==
=== Top ===
:When focusing on a pair of older versions that have since been remade, the page should link to the target pair, the remake pair, and the appendix page for the remake pair's walkthrough.

<center> This is the Bulbapedia walkthrough for [[Pokémon Red and Blue Versions]]. This walkthrough follows the original [[Game Boy]] version, not {{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}}. The guide for those can be found [[FrLg walkthrough section 01|here]].</center>

-----

=== Headlines ===
:Each route or city should be included in a level-2 headline.
::<code> == Pallet Town == </code>

 
:Also, any important locations found within a route should be included in a level-3 headline within that route's section.
::<code> == Route 120 == </code>
::<code> === Ancient Tomb === </code>

=== Images ===
:There should be map image posted for every new location visited by the player. The image can be placed on either the left or right side of the page near that area's level-2 headline, and should use the "thumb" option to show a thumbnail of the larger image.
::<nowiki> == Route 20 == </nowiki>
::<nowiki> [[Image:Route 20.png|thumb|right|Route 20]] </nowiki>

 
:If the image needs to be shrunk/expanded to fit the page, then include ###px.
::<nowiki> [[Image:Route 20.png|thumb|right|</nowiki>{{color|{{red color}}|150px}}<nowiki>|Route 20]] </nowiki>

=== Trainers ===

<pre>
{| class="expandable" align="right" style="background: #{{gamename color light}};
{{roundy|1em}} border: 5px solid #{{gamename color light}};"
|- align="center"
! Trainers
|-
|
Put Trainer information table here,
which can be pulled straight from the location pages.
|}
</pre>

{| class="expandable" align="right" style="background: #{{blue color light}}; {{roundy|1em}} border: 5px solid #{{red color light}};"
|- align="center"
! Trainers
|-
|
{{Trainerheader}}
{{Trainerentry|GenIBugcatcher.png|Bug Catcher||60|2|013|Weedle||6||010|Caterpie||6|||}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|GenIBugcatcher.png|Bug Catcher||70|3|013|Weedle||7||014|Kakuna||7||013|Weedle||7|||}}
{{Trainerdiv}}
{{Trainerentry|GenIBugcatcher.png|Bug Catcher||90|1|013|Weedle||9|||}}
{{Trainerfooter|land|I}}
|}

:The Trainer battle information should be included wherever a Trainer battle can take place, and should be placed on the left side of the page.

=== Pokémon ===
:Every location where the player can obtain a Pokémon, wild or gift, should include the following details for each:
::* name
::* encounter rate
::* level(s)
::* area details, such as Grass, Cave, Fishing, Surfing, etc.
:This information, taken from the specific location's page, should be placed on the collapsible background, colored according to the version(s).

==== When time of day is not used ====
:Locations in [[Kanto]] and [[Hoenn]], and other areas where time of day does not affect encounter rates, should use this template:

 
<pre>{| class="expandable" align="center" style="background: #{{gamename color light}};
{{roundy|1em}} border: 5px solid #{{gamename color light}};"
|- align="center"
! Available Pokémon
|-
|
Put the Pokémon information table here,
which can be pulled straight from the location pages.
|}</pre>

{| class="expandable" align="center" style="background: #{{sapphire color light}}; {{roundy|1em}} border: 5px solid #{{ruby color light}};"
|- align="center"
! Available Pokémon
|-
|
{{catchableheader|cave}}
{{catchentry3|322|Numel|yes|yes|yes|Grass|22|55%}}
{{catchentry3|066|Machop|yes|yes|yes|Grass|20|25%}}
{{catchentry3|325|Spoink|yes|yes|yes|Grass|20|20%}}
{{catchablefooter|cave}}
|}

==== When time of day is used ====
:Locations in [[Johto]] and [[Sinnoh]], and other areas where time of day does affect encounter rates, should use the following template instead:

 
<pre>
{| class="expandable" align="center" style="background: #{{gamename color light}};
{{roundy|1em}} border: 5px solid #{{gamename color light}};"
|- align="center"
! Available Pokémon
|-
|
Put the Pokémon information table here,
which can be pulled straight from the location pages.
|}
</pre>

{| class="expandable" align="center" style="background: #{{pearl color light}}; {{roundy|1em}} border: 5px solid #{{diamond color light}};"
|- align="center"
! Available Pokémon
|-
|
{{Catchableheader|land}}
{{Catchtime|All}}
{{Catchentry4|266|Silcoon|yes|no|no|Grass|10|20%}}
{{Catchentry4|268|Cascoon|no|yes|no|Grass|10|20%}}
{{Catchentry4|427|Buneary|yes|yes|no|Grass|10-12|19%}}
{{Catchentry4|267|Beautifly|yes|no|no|Grass|10-12|2%}}
{{Catchentry4|269|Dustox|no|yes|no|Grass|10-12|2%}}
{{Catchtime|Morning}}
{{Catchentry4|265|Wurmple|yes|yes|no|Grass|10-11|30%}}
{{Catchentry4|406|Budew|yes|yes|no|Grass|10-12|29%}}
{{Catchtime|Day}}
{{Catchentry4|265|Wurmple|yes|yes|no|Grass|10-11|30%}}
{{Catchentry4|406|Budew|yes|yes|no|Grass|10-12|29%}}
{{Catchtime|Night}}
{{Catchentry4|198|Murkrow|yes|no|no|Grass|10-11|20%}}
{{Catchentry4|200|Misdreavus|no|yes|no|Grass|10-11|20%}}
{{Catchablefooter}}
|}

:Each group of Pokémon should be listed with the highest encounter rate first, and decreasing from there. If more than one Pokémon species have the same percent, they should then be listed in National Dex order. 

=== Bosses ===
==== Gym battles ====
:Each section that focuses on a city's Gym should use the following, which includes the Gym name, badge image, junior Trainer(s), and Gym Leader.

<pre>
{| align="center"
|- align="center" valign="top"
|
{| align="center" style="background: #{{typename color}};
{{roundy|1em}} border: 5px solid #{{typename color light}};"
|- align="center"
! cityname Gym [[Image:badgename Badge.png|35px|The bagename Badge]] 
|-
|
{| align="center" class="expandable" style="background: #{{typename color}};
{{roundy|1em}} border: 5px solid #{{typename color light}};"
|- align="center"
! Trainers
|-
|
Put the Trainer information table here,
which can be pulled straight from the location pages
|}

Put the Gym Leader information table here,
which can be pulled straight from the location pages
|}
|}
</pre>

{| align="center"
|- align="center" valign="top"
|
{| align="center" style="background: #{{rock color}}; {{roundy|1em}} border: 5px solid #{{rock color light}};"
|- align="center"
! Pewter Gym [[Image:Boulder Badge.png|35px|The Boulder Badge]] 
|-
|
{| align="center" class="expandable" style="background: #{{rock color}};{{roundy|1em}} border: 5px solid #{{rock color light}};"
|- align="center"
! Trainers
|-
|
{{Trainerheader|Rock}}
{{Trainerentry|GenIJrTrainerMale.png|Camper{{!}}Jr. Trainer||220|2|050|Diglett|♂|11|None|027|Sandshrew|♂|11|None}}
{{Trainerfooter|Rock||Inside}}
|}

{{Party|
color={{rock color}}|
bordercolor={{rock color dark}}|
headcolor={{rock color light}}|
sprite=Brockblue.png|
prize={{pdollar}}1386|
class=[[Leader]]|
name=Brock|
game={{3v2|Red|Green|Blue}}|
location=[[Pewter Gym]]|
pokemon=2|
pokemon1={{Pokémon|
gen=1|
ndex=074|
game=Red|
pokemon=Geodude|
level=12|
type1=Rock|
type2=Ground|
move1=Tackle|
move1type=Normal|
move2=Defense Curl|
move2type=Normal}}|
pokemon2={{Pokémon|
gen=1|
ndex=095|
pokemon=Onix|
game=Red|
level=14|
type1=Rock|
type2=Ground|
move1=Tackle|
move1type=Normal|
move2=Screech|
move2type=Normal|
move3=Bide|
move3type=Normal|
move4=Bind|
move4type=Normal}}
}}
|}
|}

==== The rival ====
:The rival's party should be lined up horizontally across the page, in order to avoid the extra unused space and stretching the page out.

<pre>
{| align="center"
!{{MS|#|Pokémon1 (Pokémon)}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Pokémon1}}:
!{{MS|#|Pokémon2 (Pokémon)}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Pokémon2}}:
!{{MS|#|Pokémon3 (Pokémon)}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Pokémon3}}:
|-
|Put the rival information table here, which can be pulled straight
from location pages

|Put the rival information table here, which can be pulled straight
from location pages

|Put the rival information table here, which can be pulled straight
from location pages

|}
</pre>
 
{| align="center"
!{{MS|152|Chikorita (Pokémon)}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Chikorita}}:
!{{MS|155|Cyndaquil (Pokémon)}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Cyndaquil}}:
!{{MS|158|Totodile (Pokémon)}} If the {{player}} chose {{p|Totodile}}:
|-
|{{Party|color={{SoulSilver color}}|headcolor={{SoulSilver color light}}|bordercolor={{SoulSilver color dark}}
|sprite=SilverHGSS.gif
|prize={{pdollar}}500
|class=Passerby
|name=Boy
|game={{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}
|location=[[Cherrygrove City]]
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon|gen=4|game=HeartGold and SoulSilver|ndex=155|pokemon=Cyndaquil
|gender=male|level=5|type1=Fire|ability=Blaze
|move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Leer|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status}}}}

|{{Party|color={{SoulSilver color}}|headcolor={{SoulSilver color light}}|bordercolor={{SoulSilver color dark}}
|sprite=SilverHGSS.gif
|prize={{pdollar}}500
|class=Passerby
|name=Boy
|game={{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}
|location=[[Cherrygrove City]]
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon|gen=4|game=HeartGold and SoulSilver|ndex=158|pokemon=Totodile
|gender=male|level=5|type1=Water|ability=Torrent
|move1=Scratch|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Leer|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status}}}}

|{{Party|color={{SoulSilver color}}|headcolor={{SoulSilver color light}}|bordercolor={{SoulSilver color dark}}
|sprite=SilverHGSS.gif
|prize={{pdollar}}500
|class=Passerby
|name=Boy
|game={{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}
|location=[[Cherrygrove City]]
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon|gen=4|game=HeartGold and SoulSilver|ndex=152|pokemon=Chikorita
|gender=male|level=5|type1=Grass|ability=Overgrow
|move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Growl|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status}}}}
|}

=== Bottom ===
:Each page should have a link to both the previous and next sections.

:* First page:
<pre>
{{WalkthroughPrevNext |
game=? |
game2=? |
gamename=?|
prev=no |
next=yes |
prevsection=no |
nextsection=? |
prevname=no |
nextname=?
}}
</pre>

{{WalkthroughPrevNext |
game=Gold |
game2=Silver |
gamename=Gold and Silver |
prev=no |
next=yes |
prevsection=no |
nextsection=2 |
prevname=no |
nextname=Cherrygrove City, Mr. Pokémon's house, Elm's lab
}}

:* Last page:

<pre>
{{WalkthroughPrevNext |
game=? |
game2=? |
gamename=?|
prev=yes |
next=no |
prevsection=? |
nextsection=no|
prevname=?? |
nextname=no
}}
</pre>

{{WalkthroughPrevNext |
game=Gold |
game2=Silver |
gamename=Gold and Silver |
prev=yes |
next=no |
prevsection=27 |
nextsection=no |
prevname=Route 22, Route 28 |
nextname=no
}}

:* Everything in-between:

<pre>
{{WalkthroughPrevNext |
game=? |
game2=? |
gamename=?|
prev=yes |
next=yes |
prevsection=? |
nextsection=? |
prevname=? |
nextname=?
}}
</pre>

{{WalkthroughPrevNext |
game=Gold |
game2=Silver |
gamename=Gold and Silver |
prev=yes |
next=yes |
prevsection=14 |
nextsection=16 |
prevname=Route 27, Route 26, Victory Road |
nextname=Back in New Bark Town, S.S. Aqua, Vermilion City |
}}

== Structure of a page (Other games) ==
:Most mechanics from the "Version" games do not carry over to other games, so walkthroughs on these games cannot be expected to follow the previous layout. These games should describe their own respective venues in as encyclopedic a manner as possible. This includes all opponents, missions, locations, etc.

=== Pokémon Stadium games ===
:* Gym Leader Castle
:* Stadium Mode (Pika Cup, Petit Cup, Poké Cup, Prime Cup)
:* Kid's Club (description of the mini games)

=== Pokémon Colosseum & Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness ===
:* Story Mode
:* Colosseum venues
::* Phenac Colosseum (Pokémon Colosseum only)
::* Pyrite Colosseum
::* Under Colosseum (Pokémon Colosseum only)
::* Orre Colosseum
::* Tower Colosseum

=== Pokémon Battle Revolution ===
:This guide should detail all opposing Trainers in each Colosseum.
:* Gateway Colosseum
:* Main Street Colosseum
:* Waterfall Colosseum
:* Neon Colosseum
:* Crystal Colosseum
:* Sunny Park Colosseum
:* Magma Colosseum
:* Sunset Colosseum
:* Courtyard Colosseum
:* Stargazer Colosseum

=== Pokémon Snap ===
:This guide should include the Pokémon found in each course, as well as the six Pokémon signs.
:* Beach
:* Tunnel
:* Volcano
:* River
:* Cave
:* Valley
:* Rainbow Cloud

=== Pokémon TCG ===
:This guide should detail the eight Pokémon Clubs and their Club Masters, the four Grand Masters, and the Champion.
:* Grass (Nikki)
:* Poison (Rick)
:* Fire (Ken)
:* Water (Amy)
:* Lightning (Isaac)
:* Psychic (Murray)
:* Rock (Gene)
:* Fighting (Mitch)
 
:* Courtney (Fire)
:* Steve (Electric)
:* Jack (Ice)
:* Rod (Dragon)
:* Ronald (all types)


=== Pokémon Puzzle League ===
:This guide should focus on Puzzle University, where the player must swap the blocks in a certain number of moves.

=== Pokémon Puzzle Challenge ===
:This guide should focus on Single-Player Mode's "Challenge" feature, where the player advances the story by defeating the Johto Gym Leaders.

=== Pokémon Trozei! ===
:This guide should present the game's Adventure Mode, where Lucy Fleetfoot attempts to take down the Phobos Battalion.

=== PokéPark Wii: Pikachu's Great Adventure ===
:This guide should describe the attractions within the main gameplay mode, "Strength Trial".
:* Bulbasaur's Daring Dash
:* Venusaur's Vine Swing
:* Gyarados' Aqua Dash
:* Blaziken's Punching Rock
:* Pelipper's Sky Flap Race
:* Absol's Hurdle Succession
:* Salamence's Air Ace
:* Rayquaza's Balloon Panic
:* Empoleon's Snow Slider
:* Bastiodon's Panel Crash
:* Rhyperior's Bumper Burn
:* Tangrowth's Swing Race
:* Dusknoir's Running Crash
:* Rotom's Pulse Shoot System

=== Mystery Dungeon: Red & Blue, Time & Darkness, Sky ===
:This guide should follow the story, dividing each section according to the games' chapters.

===Pokémon Ranger series===
:Each section should focus on a single mission from the story.

== Other ==
=== Templates ===
:* {{template|Project Walkthroughs notice}}
{{Project Walkthroughs notice}}

:* {{template|User Project Walkthroughs}}
{{User Project Walkthroughs}}

:* {{template|walkthrough}}
:{{walkthrough}}
:<code><nowiki>{{walkthrough|Emerald}}</nowiki></code>
:{{walkthrough|Emerald}}

=== Parent project ===
The parent of this project is [[Bulbapedia:Project Games|Project Games]].

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Bulbapedia talk:Project Games

2010-06-24T23:26:01Z

Munchy Lax: /* Joining */

==Wondering==

Just wondering...shouldn't some other projecs be this project's subprojects?--'''[[User:Maria-williams|Maria]][[User_talk:Maria-williams|♥♪♫δ]]''' 07:04, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
: I don't know...but some should be there I think.--''[[User:Sher-e-Bengal|Sher]]-e-[[User_talk:Sher-e-Bengal|Bengal]]''- 05:25, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

== Game Stub Template ==

Is there anyway to use gamestub without categorizing the article as a game stub? Other than copying the code from the template itself onto this article. - [[User talk:SpontaneousCombusken|s.]][[User:SpontaneousCombusken|'''Combusken''']] 06:51, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
:Unfortunately no. For that, you would have to copy the code from the template page.--''[[User:Sher-e-Bengal|Sher]]-e-[[User_talk:Sher-e-Bengal|Bengal]]''- 05:25, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

==Joining==
I added myself to the participants list. Hope thats ok --[[User:FLAMER|FLAMER!]] 12:49, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
:Of course it's ok! We need more participants to make this project successful!--''[[User:Sher-e-Bengal|Sher]]-e-[[User_talk:Sher-e-Bengal|Bengal]]''- 05:25, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Im pretty new but I joined and will be helping as soon as possible--[[u|Munchy Lax]] 23:25, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

== Jurisdiction of GB Sets ==

Does the set in [[List of Pokémon Card GB sets]] fall under the jurisdiction of the TCG Project or the Game Project? - [[User:Plau|plau]] 00:20, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
:It falls under {{bp|Project TCGDex}}.--''[[User:Sher-e-Bengal|Sher]]-e-[[User_talk:Sher-e-Bengal|Bengal]]''- 09:41, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

== User tag update ==

Should the user tag image be updated to show the most recent gaming system?[[User:DCM]] 21:49, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

== Pokemon Scramble ==

Shouldn't Pokemon Scramble have a article? [[User:AlienX2008|AlienX2008]] 01:43, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
:[[Melee! Pokémon Scramble|It does]]. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 01:59, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

== Spin off games ==

Hola! I have a guidebook for Pokémon Stadium 2, complete with all opponents, their Pokémon, moves, items, etc. I'd like to put all this party info in.. but where? For the gym leader castle, would I put these parties on the Pokémon Stadium 2 page, where each opponent is already listed? Or on the individual gym pages? And for the cup opponents, would I list them on each cup page? I would just go ahead and make the changes, but I don't want people getting mad. Wanna make sure first!

I also have the guidebook for Pokémon Snap. I know this one's a bit less important, but there's official pictures of each area (Beach, Cave, River). Would it be good to upload those and put them on the Snap page, or just forget them?
Thanks! --[[User:Snowrunt|'''ℓaℓa''']] [[Special:Contributions/Snowrunt|ℓe]] [[User talk:Snowrunt|'''snoωrunt''']] 23:31, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

== Pokémon Ranger characters ==

Should there really be articles on every Pokémon Ranger character? Some just aren't notable like "Boy", which is about a Pokémon Ranger character which isn't created (the name can also be misleading as boy can refer to almost half of the people in the Pokémon World). If there needs to be an article on them, shouldn't there be an article called "List of NPCs in Pokémon Ranger" or something like that? [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 12:48, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
:What "boy" are you talking about? [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 13:02, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
::In the wanted pages, there is an article called "Boy". The only link there is from a Pokémon Ranger article. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 13:07, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

== Now hiring ==

Anyone want to lead this Project on (at the moment) a temporary basis? Email your application [[Special:Emailuser/The dark lord trombonator|here]] by noon, Monday 16 November (UTC), stating why the Editorial Board should pick you for the position. Candidates will be assessed on their previous contributions, their knowledge of the section, and their leadership potential. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:42, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
:Wasn't that yesterday? [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 22:40, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
::Yes, I was wondering about that myself. How can you have less than a day to prepare, write, and submit their application? It didn't seem fair.--[[User:Smartkidhen|Smartkidhen]] 23:06, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
:::It lasted for 5 days, not 1. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 23:46, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
::::Really, I just saw the Message from the Editor, and it had just posted the job offer on the 16th. Sorry for the mix-up.--[[User:Smartkidhen|Smartkidhen]] 23:55, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::Sorry, I meant to note here that nominations have been extended due to a lack of people coming forth. If everything goes to plan we should have a new Project Leader by the end of the month. Remember, if you're keen let me know! —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 05:24, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
::::::Extended until when? --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 21:40, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::::End of the month. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 06:30, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Shouldn't this be noted in the Messages from the Editor? [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 13:49, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Ah, O.K., since you said the decision should be reached by then, I thought the deadline would be earlier. So, were there any viable submissions? Although even if it is still totally open I likely would not apply myself... failure to submit one by the deadline suggests to me that I might be just a smidge too busy to take on that kind of responsibility at the moment. --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 20:25, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::Has it been decided yet? [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 03:29, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::It's harder to get the EB together than you think. So, no. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:23, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
Anything? It has been almost a month since the former deadline.––[[User:Smartkidhen|Smartkidhen]] 14:53, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

==Where?==

suggestion to where this should be put?

{| align=center border="1" style="border: 1px solid #000; border-collapse: collapse;" width=300px cellspacing="0"
|- style="background: #ccf;"
! Name of Game
! Year of USA Release
|-
| Red and Blue
| 1998
|-
| Yellow
| 1999
|-
| Gold and Silver
| 2000
|-
|Crystal
|2001
|-
|Ruby and Sapphire
|2003
|-
|FireRed and LeafGreen
|2004
|-
|Emerald
|2005
|-
|Diamond and Pearl
|2007
|-
|Platinum
|2009
|-
|HeartGold and SoulSilver
|2010
|}

[[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 15:09, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

== Template Pic ==

Please, somebody fix the "Project Games notice" template. The Image is missing. Thanks in advance --[[User:SaitoFX|Saito]][[User_talk:SaitoFX|FX]] 27 May 2010, 19:37 (UTC)
:It's a sync issue; the image exists on the archives, it just hasn't synced with Bulbapedia yet. Nothing to do but wait. It'll show up eventually. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 19:47, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Bulbapedia talk:Project Games

2010-06-24T23:19:03Z

Munchy Lax: /* Joining */

==Wondering==

Just wondering...shouldn't some other projecs be this project's subprojects?--'''[[User:Maria-williams|Maria]][[User_talk:Maria-williams|♥♪♫δ]]''' 07:04, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
: I don't know...but some should be there I think.--''[[User:Sher-e-Bengal|Sher]]-e-[[User_talk:Sher-e-Bengal|Bengal]]''- 05:25, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

== Game Stub Template ==

Is there anyway to use gamestub without categorizing the article as a game stub? Other than copying the code from the template itself onto this article. - [[User talk:SpontaneousCombusken|s.]][[User:SpontaneousCombusken|'''Combusken''']] 06:51, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
:Unfortunately no. For that, you would have to copy the code from the template page.--''[[User:Sher-e-Bengal|Sher]]-e-[[User_talk:Sher-e-Bengal|Bengal]]''- 05:25, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

==Joining==
I added myself to the participants list. Hope thats ok --[[User:FLAMER|FLAMER!]] 12:49, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
:Of course it's ok! We need more participants to make this project successful!--''[[User:Sher-e-Bengal|Sher]]-e-[[User_talk:Sher-e-Bengal|Bengal]]''- 05:25, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Im pretty new but I joined and will be helping as soon as possible--[[u|Munchy Lax]] 7:18 PM, 24 June 2010 (EST)

== Jurisdiction of GB Sets ==

Does the set in [[List of Pokémon Card GB sets]] fall under the jurisdiction of the TCG Project or the Game Project? - [[User:Plau|plau]] 00:20, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
:It falls under {{bp|Project TCGDex}}.--''[[User:Sher-e-Bengal|Sher]]-e-[[User_talk:Sher-e-Bengal|Bengal]]''- 09:41, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

== User tag update ==

Should the user tag image be updated to show the most recent gaming system?[[User:DCM]] 21:49, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

== Pokemon Scramble ==

Shouldn't Pokemon Scramble have a article? [[User:AlienX2008|AlienX2008]] 01:43, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
:[[Melee! Pokémon Scramble|It does]]. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 01:59, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

== Spin off games ==

Hola! I have a guidebook for Pokémon Stadium 2, complete with all opponents, their Pokémon, moves, items, etc. I'd like to put all this party info in.. but where? For the gym leader castle, would I put these parties on the Pokémon Stadium 2 page, where each opponent is already listed? Or on the individual gym pages? And for the cup opponents, would I list them on each cup page? I would just go ahead and make the changes, but I don't want people getting mad. Wanna make sure first!

I also have the guidebook for Pokémon Snap. I know this one's a bit less important, but there's official pictures of each area (Beach, Cave, River). Would it be good to upload those and put them on the Snap page, or just forget them?
Thanks! --[[User:Snowrunt|'''ℓaℓa''']] [[Special:Contributions/Snowrunt|ℓe]] [[User talk:Snowrunt|'''snoωrunt''']] 23:31, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

== Pokémon Ranger characters ==

Should there really be articles on every Pokémon Ranger character? Some just aren't notable like "Boy", which is about a Pokémon Ranger character which isn't created (the name can also be misleading as boy can refer to almost half of the people in the Pokémon World). If there needs to be an article on them, shouldn't there be an article called "List of NPCs in Pokémon Ranger" or something like that? [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 12:48, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
:What "boy" are you talking about? [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 13:02, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
::In the wanted pages, there is an article called "Boy". The only link there is from a Pokémon Ranger article. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 13:07, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

== Now hiring ==

Anyone want to lead this Project on (at the moment) a temporary basis? Email your application [[Special:Emailuser/The dark lord trombonator|here]] by noon, Monday 16 November (UTC), stating why the Editorial Board should pick you for the position. Candidates will be assessed on their previous contributions, their knowledge of the section, and their leadership potential. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:42, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
:Wasn't that yesterday? [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 22:40, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
::Yes, I was wondering about that myself. How can you have less than a day to prepare, write, and submit their application? It didn't seem fair.--[[User:Smartkidhen|Smartkidhen]] 23:06, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
:::It lasted for 5 days, not 1. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 23:46, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
::::Really, I just saw the Message from the Editor, and it had just posted the job offer on the 16th. Sorry for the mix-up.--[[User:Smartkidhen|Smartkidhen]] 23:55, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::Sorry, I meant to note here that nominations have been extended due to a lack of people coming forth. If everything goes to plan we should have a new Project Leader by the end of the month. Remember, if you're keen let me know! —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 05:24, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
::::::Extended until when? --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 21:40, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::::End of the month. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 06:30, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Shouldn't this be noted in the Messages from the Editor? [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 13:49, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Ah, O.K., since you said the decision should be reached by then, I thought the deadline would be earlier. So, were there any viable submissions? Although even if it is still totally open I likely would not apply myself... failure to submit one by the deadline suggests to me that I might be just a smidge too busy to take on that kind of responsibility at the moment. --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 20:25, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::Has it been decided yet? [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 03:29, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::It's harder to get the EB together than you think. So, no. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:23, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
Anything? It has been almost a month since the former deadline.––[[User:Smartkidhen|Smartkidhen]] 14:53, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

==Where?==

suggestion to where this should be put?

{| align=center border="1" style="border: 1px solid #000; border-collapse: collapse;" width=300px cellspacing="0"
|- style="background: #ccf;"
! Name of Game
! Year of USA Release
|-
| Red and Blue
| 1998
|-
| Yellow
| 1999
|-
| Gold and Silver
| 2000
|-
|Crystal
|2001
|-
|Ruby and Sapphire
|2003
|-
|FireRed and LeafGreen
|2004
|-
|Emerald
|2005
|-
|Diamond and Pearl
|2007
|-
|Platinum
|2009
|-
|HeartGold and SoulSilver
|2010
|}

[[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 15:09, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

== Template Pic ==

Please, somebody fix the "Project Games notice" template. The Image is missing. Thanks in advance --[[User:SaitoFX|Saito]][[User_talk:SaitoFX|FX]] 27 May 2010, 19:37 (UTC)
:It's a sync issue; the image exists on the archives, it just hasn't synced with Bulbapedia yet. Nothing to do but wait. It'll show up eventually. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 19:47, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Bulbapedia:Project Games

2010-06-24T23:13:59Z

Munchy Lax: /* Participants */

{{Project leader|{{u|Umeko}}}}
[[File:Project-games-notice.png|right|200px]]
Some Bulbapedia members have formed a [[Bulbapedia:Project|project]] to better organize efforts to write and improve articles about '''the [[Pokémon games]]'''. If you would like to help, please inquire on the talk page or the [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/forumdisplay.php?f=195 Bulbapedia forum].

==Project Games==
===Scope===
Project Games covers all articles about the [[Pokémon games]].

===Aims===
* To improve all articles related to the [[Version|main series]] games.
* To add sufficient information about all the [[Spin-off Pokémon games|spin-off games]].
* To take the articles about the main series games to a featured articles level.

===Participants===
To join the project, simply add your name to the bottom of this list:

* '''{{u|Umeko}}''' - Project Leader
* {{u|Sher-e-Bengal}} - Founder and former {{bp|Project Leaders|Project Leader}}
* {{u|LugiaRocks}}
* {{u|Politoed666}} - Writing LOTS of articles on [[Pokémon Trozei!]].
* {{u|ShinjiLover}}
* {{u|Maria-williams}}
* {{u|FLAMER}}
* {{u|Sacrifice}}
* {{u|DAWN FAN}}
* {{u|Clarky13}}
* {{u|LucarioSinnoh}}
* {{u|Ced12}}
* {{u|Kevzo8}}
* {{u|Prongs}}
* {{u|Okoa}}
* {{u|MysteryHeff?}}
* {{u|Tavisource}}
* {{u|Akivalevi}}
* {{u|Ziaix}}
* {{u|Alpha Totodile}}
* {{u|Jonbobsmith}}
* {{u|AvalonTreman}}
* {{u|Giratina Warrior}}
* {{u|Manaphy1}}
* {{u|swampert_rox}} - Writing whatever articles I think of
* {{u|water555}}
* {{u|Lunick v sonela}} - (Obsesed)
* {{u|Crystal Shards}} - I'll do what I can!
* {{u|GaryMaister31}}
* {{u|Micster1018}} - only available on saturdays and sundays
* {{u|EpicEspeon}}
* {{u|Firefly292}} - I know allot about the coding of the games and could help out.
* {{u|Midnight Blue}} - Will do my best!
* {{u|Smurf}} - Hope I can help!
* {{u|The Bulb's Master}} - Platinum and HeartGold helper.
* {{u|PokeFreak-Z}}
* {{u|Rio191}}
* {{u|Grungle7}}
* {{u|Kaitie50}}
* {{u|Yoyozoo}}
* {{u|Elonkudden}} - Platinum, R/S and Explorers of Time/Sky
* {{u|pokemaster384}}
* {{u|Force Fire}}
* {{u|MeDeoPal}} - Know most things about the most Pokemon games.
* {{u|Amai_Liang}} - Side game informant.
* {{u|ravi0m}} - Main Game Info
* {{u|Samus Fan101}} - I love Pokemon and will do what I can.
* {{u|TheLastCharmander}} - I've played and completed every Pokémon game made so far except HG/SS. I think I'll be able to help a lot.
* {{u|Smartkidhen}}
* {{u|Kimori-Hinoarashi}} - I have tons of Pokémon games. (See my Userpage.)
* {{u|Anonym12}} – I'll do my best to help.
* {{u|Houndoomforpresident}}-Love the games especially generation 2<math></math> georgey1380
* {{u|Dialgarules}} - Mostly on detailing items and correcting information that isn't right.
* {{u|Ender}} - Whatever I can.
* {{u|Pokemon59}} - S/E MS Darkness and Sky, Platinum and Pearl
*{{u|Tyler53841}} - Specialty in conformation. Have all the Gen III-IV main series handheld games.
* {{u|Smoochum}}
* {{u|PokemonMasterArceus}}- Owns most pokemon gba games. loves pokemon.
* {{u|24keyserpokemon}}-Probaly going to help with english release of Pokémon HG/SS
* {{u|Garydos}} -Going to tweak and detail info on HG, Battle Rev, etc.
* {{u|Cubone14}} red and blue mystery dungeons
* {{u|FireRed507}}-I'm working on Pokéradar, and Route Data
* {{u|Maxwell37}}
* {{u|Graah2}}-I'm helping with r/s and fr/lg
* {{u|Jade106}}
* {{u|Fishmonk}}-I'm really good at gathering information and would like to help in any way possible.
* {{u|Gamerater888}}-I'm very good at Pokémon.
*{{u|Palkiamaster}}- helping edit silly pages with FALSE info
* {{u|duardognn}}
* {{u|050294}}
* {{u|SaitoFX}} Yipee!
* {{u|DoTheWave}}
* {{u|OtakuN3rd}} Created article about the [[Monster Brain]]
* {{u|hyper10111412395}} Just started bu will be writing on Mystery Dungeon
* {{u|Munchy Lax}}- New, but will be writing about DS games.
----

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[http://www.example.com link title]

===Structure===



===Goals===
# To make comprehensive articles about everything related to all the Pokémon games.

===Infoboxes===
* {{Template|Infobox game}}

{{Infobox game}}

 

===Other templates===
* {{Template|Project Games notice}}

{{Project Games notice}}

* {{Template|Stub}}

{{Stub|Game}}

* {{Template|User Project Games}}

{{User Project Games}}

==Other projects==
===Parent project===
This project has no parent project.



===Subprojects===
** [[Bulbapedia:Project Battrio|Battrio]]
** [[Bulbapedia:Project BerryDex|BerryDex]]
** [[Bulbapedia:Project CharacterDex|CharacterDex]]
** [[Bulbapedia:Project GlitchDex|GlitchDex]]
** [[Bulbapedia:Project ItemDex|ItemDex]]
** [[Bulbapedia:Project MoveDex|MoveDex]]
** [[Bulbapedia:Project Pokédex|Pokédex]]
** [[Bulbapedia:Project SpriteDex|SpriteDex]]
** [[Bulbapedia:Project Walkthroughs|Walkthroughs]]

===Related projects===
No related projects have been named.



[[Category:Bulbapedia projects|G]]

Talk:M13

2010-06-04T00:49:22Z

Munchy Lax: /* Who is Z? */ Probobly Zoroark

==Who is Z?==
Does anybody know here who this so-called ''Phantom Ruler Z'' is? [[User:Mamoswine Gliscor|MamoswineGliscor]] 02:50, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
:No. The movie isn't even close to being out yet. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 02:52, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
::It's a movie not a username. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 02:53, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
:::Probably a Gen V Pokémon, knowing how the past three movies have released an initial title, and then later revealed a "new" (event) Pokémon from DPPt... considering there's no more right now... we may have the beginning of Gen V on our hands. However, no matter what I think, no speculation please. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:14, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
ok so it has been confirmed http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k188/y2kpikachu12/uyygjg.jpg this pokemon is pokemon z {{unsigned|Ayotui}}
:In case anyone is wondering, Zoroark is Z. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 14:56, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
::Should that go in the article? Until it's confirmed(even though it's obvious) it's technically speculation.--[[user:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] We lie in wait...... 15:03, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
:::It '''''is''''' confirmed. I think it should go in. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 15:04, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
Is it just me or is Zorark totally Kickass
:It was never confirmed that ''Z''oroark is Z. ''That'' is still speculation. Obvious, yes. Confirmed, no.--[[user:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] We lie in wait...... 15:15, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
:: It '''is''' confirmed. See the logo:
http://i48.tinypic.com/i1hc01.png
::[[User:Santer|Santer]] 15:51, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
Z is probobly [[Zoroark]] considering [[it|Zoroark]] is the star of the movie & its name starts with a Z. ([[Munchy Lax]]) 20:49, 3 June 2010 (EST)

== How is there already ratings? ==
Especially for Australia?--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 04:43, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
:Yeah, when were they confirmed? '''[[User:CuboneKing|Cubone]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]]''' ([[User talk:CuboneKing|Planet Cubone]] • [[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|Bone Club]]) 04:55, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
::I don't know if I can edit it.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 04:56, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
:::I can. '''[[User:CuboneKing|Cubone]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]]''' ([[User talk:CuboneKing|Planet Cubone]] • [[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|Bone Club]]) 04:58, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
::::Did I leave one in there? My bad. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:12, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

== Lugia and Ho-oh ==

Is this the same movie that has the battle between Lugia and Ho-oh in it? [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 13:48, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
:Though Lugia and Ho-oh were not showed in this particular trailer, the image of them battling still remains on the official movie website, so yeah it's the same... Lugia and Ho-oh's roles just aren't known yet ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 14:00, 11 December 2009 (UTC))
So, why don't we list those two Pokémon, and take out that last trivia fact? They're going to be there; absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. The teaser showed them, and that's that.--[[User:Skulblaka Shurtugal|Skulblaka Shurtugal]] 23:17, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
:I point to Palkia in movie 11. It was on the first poster and, oh look, not in the movie. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:39, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
::Well, being in the first poster is a bit different from being in first teaser, in my opinion. There were other movies which posters contained Pokémon that not participated in the movie itself. [[Jirachi: Wish Maker]] for example, with {{AP|Treecko}} and {{TP|Brock|Mudkip}}. However, it may be better to wait further information. -- [[User:RikkiKitsune|R<s>ikki</s>]][[User talk:RikkiKitsune|Kitsune]] 16:29, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
:::Either way, it'll be out in July. We'll find out more before then, but that's gonna be when our answer is. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 10:01, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
Come to think of it, there were loads of Pokémon on the Mewtwo Strikes Back poster that weren't in the movie. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 15:59, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
::::I suspect that the two of them are going to appear in the opening sequence of the movie, like how most of the Legendaries have appeared in the introductions of the most recent movies.--[[User:Webspidrman|Webspidrman]] 03:10, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

== Diamond And Pearl? ==

Why Is This Classed As A Diamond And Pearl Series? Surely It Should Be In The Heart Gold And Soul Silver Series. Anyone Agree? After All The DP Trilogy Ended If I Remember Rightly! --[[User:Manaphy1|Manaphy1]] 16:29, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
:No. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 16:32, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
::No confirmation has been made about any new series, or about the DP series ending. Plus, if I'm not mistaken, the DP series logo is used on the movie website. May I remind you that the Battle Frontier seasons were in the same series as the Hoenn seasons? I don't think it's likely they'll create a new series for HGSS. Possible, but not likely. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 16:34, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
:::I highly, HIGHLY doubt they're creating a HGSS series; they're about to give DP a new opening theme! So yes, this will most definitely be a DP movie. (Also way to make my first reply look totally unhelpful, Buzz{{tt|.|...okay, so it was unhelpful, but still}} [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 16:52, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
::::It's still the DP series, just like how AG didn't become a FRLG series or an Emerald series. We have a different colorscheme for Battle Frontier, LMM, and PRTOTS because it focuses on the Emerald features, so this has an HGSS colorscheme because it focuses on HGSS's features; likely Season 13 or 14 will, too. Undoubtedly, I'd say, we'll be having Movie 14 be in Johto as well. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:48, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

so its considered to fall in the DPPt series until further notice, that's all to it from now on I suggest.--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 10:58, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
:There is no "DPPt" series. There's the DP series. And it will continue to fall into that series until all eternity, unless they'll decide to start a new series, which is extremely unlikely. Conversation over. Stop talking about it. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 13:41, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
::It's not unlikely. It just won't happen until Gen V. HGSS is Gen IV. As long as Dawn's around, it will be DP. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:38, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
And why couldn't the anime have a hgss series? Original series - gen 1 and 2.Hoenn- gen 3 (ruby and saphire), the battle frontier - fire red and leaf green versions.Sinnoh - gen 4 (Diamond, pearl and platinium), and as hgss came out, the anime will probably follow ash's journey to Johto once more. {{unsigned|Tomas}}
:Oy. You just don't understand what we're talking about. We're not saying the anime won't follow HGSS, of course it will, just that those seasons will still fall into the {{series|Diamond & Pearl}}, in the same way that the Battle Frontier seasons were still a part of the {{series|Advanced Generation}}. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 14:47, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
Well yes, on my understanding they should fall into the DP series.--'''[[wp:Wikipedia|Wiki]]'''[[User:Tomas|''Tomas'']] 16:34, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

== actual name ==

its actually phantom champion Z, its the champion kanji not the ruler, please rename.--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 18:27, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
:It can be translated as champion, but I chose the "ruler" translation instead so as not to cause confusion with the Pokemon League title of Champion. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 18:42, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
No, its not what you think will be confused, bulbapedia should be a reliable source of info not one that goes with whatever we users want so some admin should change the name once and for all.--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 13:55, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
::I don't think you're getting this... Phantom Champion Z is not an "official" name either (It's the one I came up with and Serebii used actually lol... XD ) All three of the translations out there are just fine, and no one is better than the other... At this point we don't know enough about the story or the characters in it to make an accurate judgment of what the proper translation should be, so therefore it should stay "Phantom Ruler Z" until something is revealed that suggests otherwise, which might not even happen because it could be 100% accurate. ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 14:02, 13 December 2009 (UTC))
All right, to either clear up or further confuse the issue, here's what those words are: 
幻影: a vision; a phantom; a ghost; a hallucination. Something that appears real but isn't. 
覇者: ruler; conqueror; winner; champion; titleholder. Either a monarch who rules by force, or the winner in a competition or contest. 
Judging from years past, whatever translation we choose, it will be inaccurate, and it will continue to be used long after better ones are available. --[[User:Murgatroyd|Murgatroyd]] 04:02, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
:Umm... I don't speak Japanese but I did find an online translator. It told me that "幻影の覇者ゾロアーク" means "Champion Zoroark of Illusion". [[User:Spenfen|Spenfen]] 23:18, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
::I do believe that actual people who speak Japanese (from this section: me and Yaminokame) ultimately trump online translators. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 23:37, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

== How do we know his name is The Phantom? ==

I'm curious b/c I don't remember anyone saying anything.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 06:23, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
:Uh what? If you're talking about that pirate guy, he was in movie 9. This likely has nothing to do with him... it's like how there've been ''several'' [[Jimmy|Jimmies]], but only one has encountered {{p|Raikou}}. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 10:00, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
::No, someone added into the article something along the lines of "he is called the Phantom" but it's already been taken care of :p ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 10:04, 15 December 2009 (UTC))
:::Most likely got it from Serebii's jump-to-conclusion that "Meanwhile, Ash meets up with a Phantom Champion, a shadowed character whom looks identical to him." That's not fact yet, Joe.--'''[[User:Immewnity|''Mew'']] [[User talk:Immewnity|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|Immewnity]]''' was here at 21:21, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

== Pokemon A and B...yet again ==

the title says it all, the mystery guessing game is back with the merchandise, A: New Pokemon A. B: New pokemon DP. thats the description of both, I would like some trusted admin to add the information if possible.--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 17:07, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
Ah yes, On feb 15 corocoro will provide a sample of info officially--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 17:18, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
:Actually, that Pokémon A & B thing isn't really important because they are just names of the plush lines. ポケモンぬいぐるみDP (Pokémon Plush DP) and the newer line NEWポケモンぬいぐるみ (NEW Pokémon Plush), so I really don't see much sense in adding that information here :p ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 00:02, 25 January 2010 (UTC))

if such , so what's thhe difference between NEW pokemon and pokemon DP?--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 09:49, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
:[http://www.takaratomy.co.jp/products/pokemon/nuigurumi/newpokemon/index.html NEW Pokemon Plush] and [http://www.takaratomy.co.jp/products/pokemon/nuigurumi/nuigurumi-dp/index.html Pokemon Plush DP] are just different names of the lines, I'm not really sure why they did it, they just did :/ [[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 10:01, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

==New Movie Pokémon==
[http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f299/PKIM82/13pb.jpg New merchandise] shows Lugia, Ho-oh and Mightyena. --[[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] 06:11, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
:Should that image be added to the article?--[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 06:19, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
::No, that image will not be added. We need a full, high quality picture. (by: [[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang]][[User talk:Ruixiang95|''95'']]) 10:26, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
::Save it for beta article maybe. [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 14:58, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
:::beta article for the movie? [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 15:00, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
::::Gen. V game. They might change something about this Pokémon before the release of the game or the movie. [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 15:06, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

==Mismagius & Shuppet?==

In the latest scans from CoroCoro it showed {{AP|Pikachu}} and [[Dawn's Piplup|Piplup]] fighting a {{p|Shuppet}} and {{p|Mismagius}}. [[User:Roryrules123|Roryrules123]] 15:31 10 February 2010

== Zorua and Zororak ==

Should they be added to the Featured Pokémon and Pokémon sections? --[[User:Kimori-Hinoarashi|i herd u liek Treakos?]] 18:07, 10 February 2010 (UTC) [[User:Kimori-Hinoarashi|Kimori-]][[User talk:Kimori-Hinoarashi|Hinoarashi]]
:Well, seeing as they would be red links, i'm going to guess no. [[User:ShinyPikachu|Shiny]] [[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']] 20:48, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
:: i would refer you [[Template:Main Page/Message from the Editor|here]] —[[User:Lord mada|Mada-sama]] ([[User talk:Lord mada|Talk to me!]])— 22:56, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Zoroark should at least be added. It's in the movie. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 02:17, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
:::: We might add to the trivia that this is the second time a featured Poké has been a non-legendary with a prevo that were introduced before a generation's release. Slightly signifigant. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 03:20, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
I understand adding Zoroark, but did the Coro scan say that Zoroa would be in it as well?[[User:Morgil27|Morgil27]] 16:52, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
::::: Apparently, since both Serebiinet and Bulbapedia say so. --[[User:Kimori-Hinoarashi|i herd u liek Treakos?]] 19:42, 11 February 2010 (UTC) [[User:Kimori-Hinoarashi|Kimori-]][[User talk:Kimori-Hinoarashi|Hinoarashi]]

Question, should Zororak be mentioned in the plot summery as being involved in someway? Reason being his name is in the TITLE for crying out loud, we can automatically say from that that Zororak will play a role in the plot can't we? --[[User:Superx|Superx]] 02:54, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

==English title==
Why is there an english title already up on this page, even if it's in invisibility tags? --[[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] 05:15, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
:Rumored title I think. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 13:16, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
::Because if it's hidden, who cares? It's there because something should be. And because, der, this is just LMM redux. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 13:31, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

== Add debut section ==

I was just reading over the article, and I noticed that it doesn't have a debuts section for Zorua and Zoroark. Is this a mistake, or did I miss something and movies don't have debut sections? Spenfen
:The last one does't have a debut section but the one before that does so I'm assuming that this one doesn't have a debut section yet. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 01:49, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
:: I think the debut section gets left off until we know all of the Pokémon that are going to debut. It seems highly likely that more Gen V Pokémon are going to be in the movie. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 23:18, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

== Possible Answer to Who the "Dark" version of Ash in Trailer? ==

The name of the movie is Phantom Ruler(or Champion)Z and Zoroark is known as the Illusionary Fox Pokémon, right? Is it possible that Zoroark created an illusion of Ash and tries to take over as a ruler of some sort? Just a thought. {{unsigned|Legendary Catcher}}

:It is reasonable that Zoroark actually created the illusion of Dark/Evil Ash. --[[User:Icecreamy 1234|Icecreamy 1234]] 20:54, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
::Please go to the forums for this... --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 22:11, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

== Zorua ==

How do we know that Zoroua is in the movie and it is NOT mentioned? -[[User:?????|Full of Questions]] [[User talk:?????|Man.... I am.]]
:What do you mean? corocoro said that it was in the movie (ゾロアークの進化前の姿でもあるゾロアもスクリーンで一足先に大暴れ！) and it's on the page, I'm not sure what you're asking/wanting done? ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 04:01, 14 February 2010 (UTC))
::Did CoroCoro say that ''both'' Zoroark and Zoroua are in the movie, or ''only'' Zoroark? '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 04:16, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Yes, that Japanese quote clearly states that they will BOTH be in the movie. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 04:17, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
::::Just making sure. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 04:24, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

== Logo ==
[[File:Japanese Movie 13 Logo.png|thumb|right|The Japanese logo, containing Zoroark's name.]]

== Trivia worthy? ==

the movie will premiere on July 10, the legend of thunder part 2 aired on July 10 in the u.s. So yay or nay?--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 03:01, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
:I'd say 'Nay'. It is trivia but its not very interesting and I don't think it was on purpose. Oh and try to focus edits on the '''''main article''''' rather than trivia. Thank you. --'''[[User:Landfish7| Land]][[User talk:Landfish7|fish]]'''7 15:30, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Can someone change the trivia section? Technically the Legendary Beasts aren't in this movie or won't be until they are confirmed since the ones in the trailer are illusions.

== New poster for the M13 ==

This is a new poster from Movie13 "[[Arceus (Pokémon)|☆]][[User:AngelGuardian|Angel]][[User talk:AngelGuardian|Guardian]][[Arceus: To A Conquering Space-Time|☆]]" 09:34, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
"[[Arceus (Pokémon)|☆]][[User:AngelGuardian|Angel]][[User talk:AngelGuardian|Guardian]][[Arceus: To A Conquering Space-Time|☆]]" 09:34, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
[[Image:Poster.png]]

:Here is the poster alone. Someone could go ahead and delete that previous picture.–'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 14:36, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
[[File:Movie13poster1.png]]

The problem is.. there's still some text visible.. at the lower part of the image. hope someone can fix that "[[Arceus (Pokémon)|☆]][[User:AngelGuardian|Angel]][[User talk:AngelGuardian|Guardian]][[Arceus: To A Conquering Space-Time|☆]]" 13:12, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

== NEW INFO! ==

just got a link to some image from the movie!

http://www.filb.de/forum/showthread.php?t=3606 ([[User:Ataro|Hg/Ss come out already!]] 00:14, 4 March 2010 (UTC))

== Dark Ash IS indeed Zoroark ==

It's proven on the new official trailer. See it on Serebii - [[User:050294|050294]] 01:20, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
:More like see it on Filb. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:35, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

== About darker Ash ==

I have concluded something. In the latest trailer on Flib, Zoroark is shown transforming into Ash. However, the "Zoroark Ash" is not shadowed. I think it was just the shadow of the tree Zoroark was standing by. We should make sure there is no confusion there. [[User:Spenfen|Spenfen]] 01:40, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
:Does it really matter? Please take it to the forums. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 01:44, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

== Ninjask... ==

...is to be seen in the movie. Please add it. - [[User:050294|050294]] 05:49, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

We can add Ninjask because it resembles those of Zero's Magnet Family.. multiples "[[Arceus (Pokémon)|☆]][[User:AngelGuardian|Angel]][[User talk:AngelGuardian|Guardian]][[Arceus: To A Conquering Space-Time|☆]]" 13:47, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

== Another one ==

Another poster was shown from the Pokémon Sunday..

[[Image:M13 poster.jpg|thumb|The New Poster for M13]]

.. can we change the current pic.. ? "[[Arceus (Pokémon)|☆]][[User:AngelGuardian|Angel]][[User talk:AngelGuardian|Guardian]][[Arceus: To A Conquering Space-Time|☆]]" 13:44, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

[[:a:File:Ruler of Illusions Zoroark.png|Here]]. [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 11:10, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

== Will Entei and Lugia talk? ==

They talked in the previous movies. Will they talk again in this one?

[[Dan Green]] Entei FTW. {{unsigned|Attack Kitty}}
:Entei only talked in the third movie because he was created by Molly's imagination and she wanted him to talk. But it's possible that Lugia could talk, but if this is the case then they'll probably have to make Ho-oh talk as well, otherwise they wouldn't be "equal". There's a been lots of talking Legendary Pokémon in movies lately, so who knows? [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 21:53, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

::If any Pokémon is going to be talking, it's going to be {{p|Zoroark}}. Of course, this really should be moved to the forums! Thank You! :D --''' Zoroark!!! ''' '''[[User:Landfish7| Land]][[User talk:Landfish7|fish]]'''7 16:13, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

== too early to add Zoroark and Zorua and Celebi? ==

In the voice actor list, we have the beasts, so is it too early to add them? - ''unsigned comment from {{u|Midnight Blue}} ([[User talk:Midnight Blue|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Midnight Blue|contribs]]) ''

== Why is this page not updated? ==

Wow, the admins are slow, lol. The website Pokébeach has the plot somewhat revealed, all true as the info is from the official Pokemon website. Here it is:

Info (From the new trailer):

[[Ash]] and crew visit {{red link|Crown City}} to watch the Pokemon Backer World Cup. On their trip they meet a Pokemon named {{p|Zorua}}, who is searching for its companion; they decide to let it tag along so they can assist it. But a Pokemon named {{p|Zoroark}} - the "Ruler of Illusions" - is turning into {{p|Raikou}}, {{p|Entei}}, and {{p|Suicune}} and destroying Crown City! Also, {{p|Celebi}} returns after 20 years and gets into trouble. What is happening to Crown City? What could the Ruler of Illusion, Zoroark, be? And what about Celebi? Will Ash and {{AP|Pikachu}} be able to save the city and the Pokemon?

Characters:

Kodai (the evil-looking businessman) - He is the president of the giant corporation "Kodai Network." He is called the man who knows the future and is known for his ambition. 
Rioka - She is a cool and intelligent woman. She is Kodai's secretary. 
Kuroto - He is a newspaper reporter from Crown City. He is trying to discover Kodai's secret. 
Zorua - A Pokemon that meets up with Ash and friends as they head toward Crown City. Its specialty is turning into various things. 
Zoroark - A Pokemon with the ability to show illusions. It turns into Raikou, Entei, and Suicune to attack Crown City and drive the people into a panic.

As seen from the following information:
*The [[legendary beasts]] are actually Zoroark; they do not actually appear.
*The new character's indentities are revealed.
*Zoroark is revealed to be an antagonist, though the reason it is is unconfirmed.
*Zorua seems to be good, implying that Zoroark's antagonistic behavior may NOT be normal.
*Kodai seems to be after Celebi and is most likely an antagonist.

Not seen from that text:
*Zorua can {{m|transform}}, as seen in an added scene in the new trailer; it changed into a {{p|Piplup}}

Please, admins, add this vital info! - [[User:050294|050294]] 22:18, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

:Sheesh. ''Another'' illusion Entei? When are we ever going to see the real one? - {{unsigned|Attack Kitty}}
::The real Legendary Beasts could also appear; besides, Zoroark would have to have seen the real thing in order to take on their appearance. I hope the real ones are in it as well, it would be really disappointing if Raikou's first movie appearance was as an illusion, and it's about time we got to see a real Entei! [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 12:26, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
:::Eh... Copying other site's error all the time... This time PokeBeach. The characters name is '''Kurt''', not "Kuroto". If someone decides to start an article, then it will have to be titled as "Kurt (movie)" or something. But I'm completely AGAINST moving [[Kurt]] to "Kurt (Johto)" or something and making a disambig. The games' Kurt is too major to be disambiged with some random movie guy (movie CotDs are still CotDs). So, a headnote to [[Kurt]] article and the movie character page being titled "Kurt (movie)". But it's NOT "Kuroto". --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 12:54, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
::::It's not just copying one other site. The official site for the movie has the same information as well. [[User:Spenfen|Spenfen]] 15:44, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
To [[User:Maxim|Maxim]] and [[User:Taromon777|Taromon]]: This information is DIRECTLY from the official Pokémon website so it IS true. If you read my entire post you'd see me say this. You can also go to the official site itself. - [[User:050294|050294]] 20:30, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
:I'm NOT saying that the info is fake. I just said that the name is romanized wrong. It's Kurt, not "Kuroto". "Kuroto" is apparently an error made by WPM at PokeBeach. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 20:37, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
::When movie Kurt gets moved to his English name (assuming they don't keep it Kurt) we can kill the topbar from Kurt's page. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:49, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

== Cast update ==

Takanori Jin'nai (陣内孝則) has been revealed [http://www.pokemon-movie.jp/news/#100416seiyu here] as playing the voice of Kōdai and Koichi Yamadera (山寺宏一) has been revealed as the voice actor for the character Goon (グーン). Not sure if this is a big enough role to add or not, but Shōko Nakagawa (中川翔子) is Ploof (or however people want to Romanize it) (プルーフ). Can someone please add (at least the first two because they are important characters) those to the 'Cast' chart?.. ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 15:22, 16 April 2010 (UTC))
:I've made pages for Goon and Proof, so what remains is to add them to the cast chart. I also added a character called Joe to the template, but I didn't make a page for him because all that's known is that he has the Mightyena. --[[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] 02:14, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
::Okay, I changed the above to coincide with "Goon" and "Proof". Also, if it helps at all, the person named "Joe" that was mentioned above is [http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/9346/joehw.jpg this person] as shown in the latest trailer. ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 02:52, 23 April 2010 (UTC))
:::Ah, that's him? Too bad there's not a better image of him, or I could make a page for him as well. --[[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] 04:59, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

== Pokémon List Update! ==

Hey guys (more specifically admins), these Pokémon should be added in the list (they were [http://i437.photobucket.com/albums/qq93/adyniz/vlcsnap-2010-04-17-15h23m31s246.png revealed] in the latest trailer).
:Abomasnow, Breloom, Cranidos, Doduo, Furret, Gabite, Garchomp, Grotle, Mamoswine, Nidoking, Nidorina, Nidorino, Piloswine, Rampardos, Raticate, Rattata, Rhyhorn, Rhyperior, Sentret, Skuntank, Snover, Stantler, Staravia, Stunky, Swinub, Teddiursa, Torterra, Ursaring, Vigoroth and Zigzagoon.
:Thank you. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 10:32, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

== Can someone add something ==

TV Tokyo has stated the Diamond and Pearl series is going to conclude in the fall, so is it safe to put in the article that this is going to be the last Diamond and Pearl movie. --'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 18:31, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

== Grammar ==

The wording in the synopsis is a bit misleading, at first glace it looks like it says Zoroark is transforming into Raikou, Entei, Suicune, and Celebi. But the bit about Celebi is a seperate part of the sentence. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 19:43, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

== Pokémon ==
I see the some ninjask in the 3rd trailer and some Beautyfly in the 4th trailer. I also seen in this image [[File:CoroCoro March 2.jpg|300px]] a Missmagius and a Shuppet. Someone should to add them. [[User:Caciulacdlac|Caciulacdlac]]
:For clarification, it appears Mismagius and Shuppet are Kōdai's. --[[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] 06:05, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

== Chinese (Taiwan) title ==

The title in Taiwanese Chinese is '''幻影之霸者索羅亞克'''. The meaning is the same as in Japanese. Can someone add it? [http://www.my-cartoon.com.tw/pokemon/2010movie.htm Official source]. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 14:48, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

== Cast ==
I'll just copy this from PocketMonsters:

''Koichi Yamadera (山寺宏一) has once again returned to play the part of Gūn (グーン) and Shōko Nakagawa (中川翔子) has returned for her 4th Pocket Monsters movie to play the parts of Proof (プルーフ). Also in attendance were Takanori Jin'nai (陣内孝則) who voices Kōdai (コーダイ), Katō Natsuki (加藤夏希) who voices Rioka and finally Takashi Tsukamoto (塚本高史) who voices Kurt (クルト). '' -- [[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] 02:03, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

== Something to correct in the Trivia section ==

The part where it says "the first time Raikou gets a starring role in a movie" should be referring to ''theatrical'' movies, because of the Legend of Thunder series. (Or at least I think so. Feel free to say why not.)
The only reason I'm not changing it myself is because the page is protected. [[User:Ztobor|Ztobor]] 02:22, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
:As far as I'm aware, ''[[The Legend of Thunder!]]'' is a TV special, as opposed to a full-blown movie. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 02:32, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
::Ah, so it's not considered a movie here? I don't know, I got the terminology from another site, where they distinguish between theatrical movies and "TV movies", which you call TV specials. [[User:Ztobor|Ztobor]] 03:49, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Well, they're called TV Specials here, so this is the first time Raikou gets a starring role in a movie.--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 04:59, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

==Mightyena==
Why is Mightyena still in comments at the Pokémon it is proved it will appear: http://www.pokemon-movie.jp/keyword/ 7th picture [[User:Bigtukker|Bigtukker]] 18:04, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Generation V

2010-06-04T00:34:11Z

Munchy Lax: /* Gen 4 compatability */ I get the concept of compatability with Gen4 but whats going to happen to the Pokedex when you get aGen5 Pokemon on a Gen4 game?

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==Any References?==
With the impending release of [[Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver]] in America, can someone keep an eye out for any in-game references to Gen. V? Much appreciated. [[User:The Jigglypuff Ninja|The Jigglypuff Ninja]] 01:04, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
:I doubt there are any references to Gen V in HGSS. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 01:09, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
::And I ''highly'' doubt that NoA would change the script to add such references in. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 01:09, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Any references will probably be in the new Ranger game. Although the Lock Capsule is probably related to something in Generation V.--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 01:11, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
::::It's a Gen IV event item. Likely gonna be for a Gen IV event. Think: what hasn't been released yet? Could be Celebi... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:04, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::At the risk of dragging this out too far (this is quickly becoming something that'd fit on the forums), hackers would have found a Celebi Event in the coding, but no one has. Add in that PokeBeach reports that it seems to have similar transfer data as the Manaphy Egg, and it seems like it's supposed to be transferred out of HGSS into a new game... but I digress. We have no proof either way.--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 05:03, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::The question is... how would it be obtained in the first place? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:40, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

==Jumping the Gun a bit?==
Are you guys sure we aren't looking into this a bit too far? All we have for clues are that they announced a new game and a new *something*. Not to mention it says it's gonna be new on the DS. What's to be sure of all of that? For all we know, the new game could be MindCrystal, the silhouette could be a new Forme like the last 5 that were announced. The new game could be a wii sequel to Pokemon XD:Gale of Darkness. If we can't even have Pokemon evolved editing pages when they're in the titles of episodes, why can we just up and announce a new generation? I mean, Pokebeach even said the silhouette isn't Z, what makes anyone certain it's Generation V?[[User:SLE_aman|SLE_]][[User:SLE_aman/talk|aman]] 11:53, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
:What does Pokebeach have to do with anything? We know this is Gen V because Masuda SAID it is a new Pokémon. Nothing in this article says that this Pokémon is Z. Because we don't know that. All we know is that it is a new Pokémon. To think otherwise... well, you're in denial big time. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 12:14, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
::The original announcement talked about the popularity of Diamond and Pearl before saying this game will be set in a new region with new Pokémon. What more evidence do you need? --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 12:36, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

:::Well, technically, the RPG announcement never explicitly said it would be main series. Even though Generation V Pokémon were hinted, it was never explicitly said that it was the full-fledged generation. It also never explicitly said it would be a pair, either. There are RPGs other than the main series, and they could use a side-series RPG to give Generation V-based cameos to increase anticipation for the full-fledged generation to come at a later date (much like Mystery Dungeon 1 did). Recent announcements pretty much excludes the possibility of it being a Ranger 4, but it's still possible that it could be a Mystery Dungeon 5 or something completely different than anything we've seen before. My [[$1|2¢]]: Odds are the TBA 2010 thing is not for the full-fledged Generation V. Especially if the RPG announcement turns out to be for a single. They've faked us out before, and even if the silhouette does turn out legitimate, it's probably still too early to be thinking full-fledged Generation V. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 18:19, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

::::Actually, I've seen a subb'ed version. Masuda specifically said "We're working on a new generation of pokémon" --[[User:Camzoman]]
::::Yeah. And nowhere in that did it explicitly say that was the TBA 2010 project. They can be working on a new generation of Pokémon, yet still announce and release side games relating mainly to the previous generation. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 19:34, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::Camzoman, where exactly did you see this subbed version? I did not hear Masuda mention a "new generation" anywhere in the video - what he said was "we're developing a brand-new work for Pokemon." However, I don't think there's any denying at this point that it is indeed the new generation. The [http://www.corocoro.tv/pokerelease/index.html Corocoro site] doesn't seem to be implying that this is a side game (not that Game Freak makes side games to begin with). It's a new version(s), with a new setting, new Pokemon, new features... sounds like a new generation to me. :/ [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 19:54, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::Japanese doesn't have a plural so the "he only said one" argument doesn't hold. [[n:New Pokémon RPG announced|Just look at the information we have]]. It's obviously Generation V. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 12:12, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
::::Anyway, the CoroCoro scans for Zoroark fit the silhouette from Pokémon Sunday.--[[User:Crazylegs24]]

== Why is this page protected? ==
Why is this page protected? --[[User:?????|Any]] [[User talk:?????|Questions]][[User:?????|?????]] 18:34, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
:Think about it.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 18:37, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
::<nowiki>*</nowiki>cough*Speculation*cough* [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 18:41, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Because someone is 100% likely going to put what they think the new Pokémon is, probably saying it's Mightyena's evolution or something, if it isn't protected. That is speculation, something that isn't allowed here in the mainspace. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 22:21, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
::::It is not a good sign when a question like this needs to be asked.--[[user:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] We are the Void 22:43, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::That against us or against the users who'd make crappy speculative edits? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:22, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::It's against users who don't realise why it should be protected...--[[user:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] We lie in wait...... 14:31, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::...same thing? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:29, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Arguable.--[[user:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] We lie in wait...... 13:13, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::Would it not be better to make this page "semi-protected" so that only established users can edit? There are plenty of established users who are not administrators, whom I'm sure would want to contribute to such a monumental article. [[User:Kidburla|Kidburla]] 09:55, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
:That wouldn't stop speculation from incurring. If you have any confirmed evidence, ask for it here.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 10:12, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

== Generation V Pokémon Infobox, anyone? ==

I know you'll probably all find this pointless, but I decided to throw together a [[Template:PokémonInfoboxGenV|temporary infobox]] to use for the Generation V Pokémon articles. It's basically a stripped-down version of the regular infobox that leaves out all the fields for any technical stuff (Egg groups, EXP yield, Gender ratios, etc.) that's unlikely to be revealed until ''Pokémon V'' comes out later this year. I also created a [[User:Quagbert/Z (Pokémon)|user-subpage for the silhouetted mystery Pokémon]] that uses a [[Template:PokémonInfoboxGenVNoncat|non-categorizing version]] of this template.

''Thanks to {{u|PsychicRider}} for making me aware of the original non-categorizing Pokémon infobox.'' [[User:Quagbert|Quagbert]] 00:49, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

==Masamitsu Hidaka==

Should [[Masamitsu Hidaka]] be mentioned since that interview kind of confirmed Generation V? --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 05:50, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

== Unlink ==

Can somebody please unlink "Generation V Pokémon"? It's a redlink right now. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 13:52, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

== This just in! ==

Serebii.net just confirmed the first two Fifth Generation Pokémon! Go check it out! :) --[[User:Dialgafan1|Dialgafan1]] 14:21, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
:Serebii.net didn't. Leaked scans did. Also, the first one was already revealed. The second one was revealed to be before it in their evolutionary line. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 14:22, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
::I think yu're probably going to need to find this information from another source. It seems like the users here have some sort of vendetta against Serebii.--[[User:Skaisdead|Skaisdead]] 14:29, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
:::It is officially confirmed. It was from a different source. It was from scans. You can see bulbanews's draft. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 14:31, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
::::We don't have any vendetta against Serebii. He just isn't the source in this case - CoroCoro is. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 15:01, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Either way, it's confirmed right? I'd love to update the page, but it's locked. *ahem*
''[[User:Chosen|Chosen]] of [[User talk:Chosen|Mana]]'' [[User:Chosen|-]] 15:15, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

[[File:CoroCoro March 1.jpg|thumb]]

Here's the picture! --[[User:Dialgafan1|Dialgafan1]] 15:19, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Alright, these two Pokémon have been offically confirmed by the leaked CoroCoro scans, but apparently it's still considered too early to put up the Bulbapedia articles for them. Is there some additional form of conformation that we're waiting for?

Anyway, I already have {{p|Zorua}} and {{p|Zoroark}} in my userspace ready to be moved to the main space when we're finally allowed to do so. [[User:Quagbert|Quagbert]] 17:07, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
:It's probably due to lack of information. I assume that when its ability/abilities and/or base stats are revealed it will be moved. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 17:16, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
::IIRC, none of that sort of information (especially base stats) was revealed for the Generation IV Pokémon until the actual release of Diamond/Pearl, or shortly before, though we still had mainspace articles for them anyway. This means it'd be months before we move Zorua/Zoroark into the mainspace. [[User:Quagbert|Quagbert]] 17:31, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Actually, according to serebii, they're supposed to be revealed next month. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 18:45, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

== Related Pokémon ==

On the page, it says that it has noteable links with the Riolu and Poochyena families. If it's definitely pure dark type then just ignore this, but couldn't it be an alternative to the Vulpix family? --[[User:Herachu|Herachu]] 22:07, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
: I agree. --[[User:Kimori-Hinoarashi|i herd u liek Treakos?]] 00:10, 12 February 2010 (UTC) [[User:Kimori-Hinoarashi|Kimori-]][[User talk:Kimori-Hinoarashi|Hinoarashi]]

== New Pokémon template ==

Based partly on the {{template|DP episode}} template, I've decided to make a [[Template:NewPokémon|new Pokémon template]] to use the next time a new Pokémon is revealed. The code would go like this:
<pre>
{{subst:NewPokémon|main|Jp. Katakana name|Romanized Jp. name|
typen= (number of types) |
type1= (first type) |
type2= (second type) |
pron= (name's pronunciation) |
jspecies= (species in Japanese) |
species= (species, aka "____ Pokémon")
image= (filename of image) |
caption= (caption for said image) |
height-m= (height in meters) |
weight-kg= (weight in kilograms) |
prev= (previous Pokémon's (i.e. pre-evolution) name, Arceus by default) |
prevnum= (previous Pokémon's National Dex #, 493 by default) |
next= (next Pokémon's (i.e. evolved form) name, Bulbasaur by default) |
nextnum= (next Pokémon's National Dex #, 001 by default) |
}}
</pre>
Those who want to use this template for their own userspace should replace "main" in the top line with "user", so that those user sub-pages aren't categorized with the genuine Pokémon articles in the main space. [[User:Quagbert|Quagbert]] 01:04, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

== Take away part in introduction ==

It says that it is unknown whether the new games will be contemporaneous with any of the other games. I beg to differ. Pokemon Sunday officially stated that Zoroark lives in a "New Area". Or is it just saying that it is unknown whether it will be possible to travel to another region? Spenfen
:Contemporaneous means at the same time. Like how RBY and RSE are at the same time, and so is GSC and DPPt. It has nothing to do with location.--[[User:Goukazaru|Gou]] 18:08, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

== Japanese Gen. 5 page ==
I have a good link to a japanese page on the Generation 5 games here: [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/info/game/g100215_03.html].--[[User:Christopher Costello|Christopher Costello]] 01:14, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
:That's kinda where we got all of our information. Pokémon.co.jp and the Japanese Pokémon variety shows. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:41, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

== Interwiki link to Pokéteca ==

Now that there's an article about [[:es:Quinta Generación|Generation V on Pokéteca]], can someone add it the interwiki link to it, please? --[[User:Blaziken257|'''Blaz''']][[User talk:Blaziken257|'''iken''']][[Special:Contributions/Blaziken257|'''257''']] 03:19, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

== Two New Generation V Pokémon Scan !!! ==

Hey guys, I got this '''EPIC''' magazine scan featuring two new evolutions of Delibird and Farfetch'd from Generation V and it seems 100% real. {{unsigned|Adyniz}}
:It's not. Notice how I protected the hell out of those names ''before Zoroark and Zorua were revealed''. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:08, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
::Does that mean this scan is a fake one? --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 07:11, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
:::The screenshot is obviously fake if you couldn't tell. That should have given it away easily. So yes, it is fake. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jel]][[User Talk:Jello|lo]] 07:29, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
::::Lol, man I am dumb.
::::'''Source''': http://www.pokemondarkay.net/{{unsigned|Adyniz}}
:::::Looks pretty real. [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 11:00, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::Well it may look real but I've seen things in my days done in Photoshop that looked very real. Can someone translate or is there even any legit source? I don't read Spanish nor Japanese. [[User:.insomniac.|inso]]m[[User_talk:.insomniac.|niac]] 11:05, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Since it's already been confirmed as fake, please take further discussion regarding the scan to the {{tt|forums|Not the Bulbapedia forum.}}. Thanks, - [[User:Kogoro|'''<sc>Kogoro</sc>''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<sc>Talk to me</sc>''']] - 11:08, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

== [[Nintendo 3DS]] ==

It's very likely that these new games will be on the 3DS, so can someone remove the statement saying that the games ''will'' be released on the regular DS?--'''[[User:Immewnity|''immewnity'']][[User talk:Immewnity|the]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|mew]]''' 00:22, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
:[[Generation II]] ahoy. The press release said DS. Not 3DS. 3DS comes out NEXT YEAR. These come out THIS YEAR. Nintendo's not ''stupid''. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:54, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
::It could be released before Christmas in Japan so there is the potential for the game to be on 3DS. But that's purely guesswork at the moment and it could still be a DS game even if the 3DS is implemented so we go with the only source on the matter - the original announcement which said it will be on the DS. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 11:27, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
:::Or, as in Generation II, the games could be programmed with 3DS enhancements, yet still be playable on the DS. Nonetheless, until something official states that they will utilize the 3DS, any mention of it is speculation at best. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 14:23, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::Technically, TTEchidna, the page that announced the 3DS stated that it would be released sometime between now and next April, so that doesn't mean next year.
[[User:DarthMartian7|DarthMartian7]] 23:50, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

== Current Length ==

The days have weird numbers, can an administrator fix them? Thanks. [[User:Dialgafan1|Dialgafan1]] 21:23, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
:They're automatically calculated by the template... —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 06:38, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
::But the games haven't been released yet. I think it's too early to say that Generation V has started. [[User:Fudgenuggets|Fudgenuggets]] 22:16, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
:::It hasn't started yet. It starts in 0.8 days according to those numbers. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 03:22, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
::::It's because it's calculated weirdly. Once we have a ''date'', we'll put that in, and it'll look right. Until then, DECIMALLLLLLLLLL '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:34, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

== Uploaded player sprite ==

[[File:GenV.player.front.png‎]] [[File:GenV.player.side.png‎]]

I got the player sprite and uploaded it to the archives... I guess if someone can find a place for it on the article, well, there it is!

Actually, now that I see them side-by-side, it looks like the front-facing sprite on the left is the male character while the right-facing sprite on the right is the female character. Any ideas? - [[User:Nick15|Nick15]] 02:01, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
:1) This is the article for Gen V in general, not just Black and White.
:2) Do we have the overworld sprites from the past games anywhere? The characters themselves will get articles eventually but we will hopefully have Sugimori artwork released around the time that happens. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 23:09, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
::We do, but... mostly fronts. And those are animated. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:02, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
:::Well, I'm sure there's a home for those sprites... right? :) - [[User:Nick15|Nick15]] 06:58, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

== About the day count... ==

You should set it to zero, I'm not sure we'll have Pokémon B&W in -0.840277777778 days. --[[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]] 12:53, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
:But we all wish we did... [[User:Thermorules123|Thermorules123]] 11:32, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
::You mean you didn't get your game 0.840277777778 days ago? Never mind, I hacked the template to make it say better stuff. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 12:10, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
:::As long as you didn't break the template on the other four generations. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:56, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
::::I'm fairly certain I didn't. Fixed it through an optional extra parameter. Seeing as the parameter doesn't exist on the other four pages, nothing should have broken. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 05:19, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

== Gen 4 compatability ==

Shouldn't it be noted that this has been confirmed? (The upcoming Flare Blitz Entei and co can do something in gen 5) {{unsigned|Deuxhero}}
:makes sense, but since it's not officially confirmed, {{tt|we can't include it.|That's Bulbapedia's standard.}} [[User:ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[Pikachu (Pokémon)|Pikachu]] 12:44, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
::What do you mean, it hasn't been officially confirmed? It's been confirmed that the shiny legendary gerbils unlock something in BW, meaning that they are transferable to aforementioned games. Serebii.net reported on this last month. Oh wait, let me guess- Serebii.net isn't what you consider a reliable source despite only being wrong about stuff they explicitly said they weren't sure about in the first place. We also didn't add all the english names for all the HGSS stuff until it came out and proved him right. When are you guys gonna swallow your pride and admit that Serebii.net is probably the most reliable source of Pokémon information in the internet? - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 14:01, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
:::''The most reliable source of Pokémon information in the internet?'', {{tt|Hahahaha, I don't think so|I don't want to go off-topic otherwise it will be long debate}}. Anyway, wait for an official announcement before doing/adding anything. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 14:16, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
::::If I recall though it was indeed confirmed by an official source that the legendary beasts could unlock something in BW... apparently someone got their hands on the pamphlet that you get for pre-ordering the ticket and it states that the beasts unlock stuff in BW. Not sure if there's a scan of it anywhere though, I would refrain from putting it on the page if it's just his personal speculation again. ▫▫'''[[User:Tina|ティナ]]'''[[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|★]] 15:50, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::If it is added, be sure not to assume HOW the games are compatible; it's possible they could unlock something through a method other than trading or transferring. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 14:22, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::Just as a clarification, an official site has yet to specifically state "generation 4 can trade in some way with generation 5". The pamphlet in question can be seen in entirety [http://www.pokemon-movie.jp/image/tickets/print/guide.pdf here]. On page 3 there is a small section that talks about Pokemon Black/White and the last sentence of that section mentions that the 3 have a secret. This was taken to mean that the 3 unlock something in B/W obviously because it is mentioned inside the B/W section and therefore probably are able to be traded to Gen 5 in some way. Anyways, that was the logic behind "Gen 4 and 5 compatibility confirmed." Whether that is a good enough reason to be added on here or not, I don't know :p ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 16:39, 9 May 2010 (UTC))
:::::::There's ''also'' that little issue of them being ON THE DS. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:54, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
I get the concept of compatability with Gen4 but whats going to happen to the Pokedex when you get aGen5 Pokemon on a Gen4 game?([[User: Munchy Lax]] 20:33,3 June 2010 (EST)

== Starters ==

Here's the image from Pokémon Sunday: [[User:Dialgafan1|Dialgafan1]] 01:49, 9 May 2010 (UTC) [[File:PokéSun May09 10.png|thumb|right]]

I can guess that the Grass Type is a Bird of Parodise Pokemon, as in the plant 'Bird of Parodise,' and also they had already done Bird based starters for [[Torchic|Fire]] and [[Piplup|Water]], and not yet Grass. If this could be true when revealed, then it will certainly complete the Bird Starters just like the Lizard Starters of [[Treeko|Grass]],[[Charmander|Fire]] and [[Totodile|Water]].
The Fire Type could may as well be a piglet for it's curley tail, and the Water Type could be another Amphibian Pokemon like [[Mudkip]]. These are just guesses, but what do you think? [[User:Cynthia149]] 17:07, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
:I think that you need to take your speculation to the forums. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 16:35, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Just for the heck of it, I have a [[User:Quagbert/No.494 (Pokémon)|draft article for the Grass starter]], which I created using the template I mentioned above. I also have startup code to create the Fire and Water starters' articles using this same template, if anyone's interested:
<pre>
Fire Starter:
{{subst:NewPokémon|main|日本語名|JP Name
|species=
|typen=1|type1=Fire
|image=
|art=|caption=Scan from [[CoroCoro]]
|height-m=
|weight-kg=
|prev=(grass starter)|next=water starter)}}

Water Starter:
{{subst:NewPokémon|main|日本語名|JP Name
|species=
|typen=1|type1=Water
|image=
|art=|caption=Scan from [[CoroCoro]]
|height-m=
|weight-kg=
|prev=(fire starter)|next=Zorua}}
</pre>
[[User:Quagbert|Quagbert]] 01:19, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

For the curious, from left to right its the Grass-type, the Fire-type, and the Water-type. [http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2010/05/12/mystery_pokemon_detailed/ Here]. Still no names or pics other though. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 14:29, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
:There's this great site called Bulbanews that has already reported that information - and with pictures, too! [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 16:54, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
::Excuuuuse me for not noticing. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 18:07, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

== "Both are canine Pokémon," ==

By which the article presumably means ''vulpine''; canine refers to dogs but Zoroa and Zoroark are/will be fox Pokémon. [[User:Smithers888|Smithers888]] 04:10, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
:Foxes are canine. Ish. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:09, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
::http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canidae - Canini and Vulpini are separate members of Canidae --[[User:Grinnz|Grinnz]] 18:59, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
::: I had something but might as well just ask. Aren't dogs actually Lupine, if we're going Vulpine for foxes.--[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 19:05, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

isnt lupine for wolves Iirc ([[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 19:27, 12 May 2010 (UTC))
: Dogs are in the same family as wolves. Canis Lupus, the dog is only further distinguished by Canis Lupis familiaris. But even still Canine could refer to Canidae which is what Foxes/Dogs/wolves are in. The only difference is Foxes are further classified as "Vulpine" and if we follow suit, dogs/wolves would be Lupine not Canine. And it did say some foxes (while not true foxes) could still be under the Canis Genus if that's where the Canine name comes from. But again while Canine might refer to dogs specifically, isn't that more of a general consensus, rather than a scientific consensus? I'm going scientific here, if people want to be so correct with the whole Vulpine/Canine argument. -[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 19:36, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
::Who cares, really. That section'll be gone by the end of the year. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:56, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

== Older PCs ==

[http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2010/05/12/mystery_pokemon_detailed/ Apparently], artwork shown in Coro Coro comics indicates that the Player characters aren't kids like previous generations, but are a bit older and appear to be young adults. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 14:31, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

== well heres the pics ==

I have a corocoro scan of the player characters.....

[[File:User373931 pic151409 1273683476.png|thumb|right|here they are]]
([[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 18:17, 12 May 2010 (UTC))
:The scan is from Pokebeach. I think we'd prefer it if it was your own scan. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jel]][[User Talk:Jello|lo]] 18:25, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
::Well, the beach is our buddy, too. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:24, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

== New Pokémon? ==

I found this online. It has the Pokémon Sunday picture in the corner. Does anybody know if this is the real deal or a scam?
http://nd03.blog.cz/294/620/14fe8a949a_61909769_o2.jpg
[[User:DarthMartian7|DarthMartian7]] 19:19, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

bleh...looks fake ([[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 19:25, 12 May 2010 (UTC))
:Old and fake. (btw: the text on the bottom says "the Pokemon that grasps the key to the Ruler of Illusions: Z!") [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 19:28, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
::Fail. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:54, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

== New Pokémon (CoroCoro scan) ==

Came here to upload the scan, but apparently someone else did but didn't do anything with it. Here it is: [[File:Corocoro7.jpg|right|thumb]]
This info should probably be put into the main article. [[User:Marluxia.Kyoshu|Marluxia.Kyoshu]] 20:36, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
:It's been used on News. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 20:42, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

== More info! ==

*Zorua has the Illusion ability.
*Mijumaru is 0.5m tall and weighs 5.9kg. It also has the Torrent ability.
*Tsutaaja is 0.6m tall and weighs 8.1kg. It also has the Overgrow ability.
*Pokabu is 0.6m tall and weighs 9.9kg. It also has the Blaze ability.
These should be added to the Pokémon articles--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 10:05, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

== On the use of unconfirmed information ==

<strike>We seem to have taken a whole bunch of unconfirmed information as fact here, and as it's generally not Bulbapedia policy to do so, it somewhat bothers me.

For the record, here is a list of information, much of which has been added to Bulbapedia, that I have not seen in the CoroCoro pages or any other official source (though if you have official sources with this that I have missed, please, by all means, link me):
*The name "Tsutaaja," as well as all info on it beyond the fact that it is at least partly Grass-type
*The name "Pokabu," as well as all info on it beyond the fact that it is at least partly Fire-type
*The name "Mijumaru," as well as all info on it beyond the fact that it is at least partly Water-type
*"Hiun City"
*Zoroark's ability, "Illusion"
*Those two new attacks whose names I can't be bothered to remember right now (Trickery and Claw Sharpen or something?)
*The method by which to obtain Zoroark
I have seen ''none'' of this come from official sources, only from fansites, blogs, and forums. (Hell, I could have sworn that I saw some of this in a 2ch speculation thread back in March.) The justification to their validity seems to be that the random anonymous person who posted this information on 2ch was right about other information before it was leaked, so he must be right now - but that reasoning hasn't been enough in past cases, has it?

I really wish we had kept the above-mentioned facts off of Bulbapedia until they were confirmed, but here they are. I personally think they should be removed (and the starters' pages moved into TTE's userspace or something) until they are confirmed, but a reasonable compromise, I think, would be to tag all articles that mention this information with an "unconfirmed" tag of some sort (I seem to remember a template for one, though I can't find it now...).

Any thoughts?</strike> [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 18:23, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
:They're all from CoroCoro. It's pretty undeniable. [[User:Reign|Reign]] 18:40, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
:Scratch that, I found the CoroCoro scans that apparently no one cared to share which confirmed all of this. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 18:42, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

== Starter Region ==

i would just like to say that, because of the set-up of the page, it looks like one or the regions in Gen. V is Starters. I would fix it myself, but I'm not an Admin. could an admin please change it show it looks like this

<nowiki>
==Regions==
===Isshu===
==Starters==</nowiki>

instead of this

<nowiki>
==Regions==
===Isshu===
===Starters===</nowiki> thank-you [[User:ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[Pikachu (Pokémon)|Pikachu]] 19:54, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
:If you take a look at the table of contents, you'll see that "Starter Pokémon" is a lower heading than "Isshu", as it should be, to indicate that those are the Starter Pokémon of Isshu. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:51, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
::i guess that's true. the actual part of the article is what made me confused. But looking at the Table of Contents, it is set up correctly.[[User:ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[Pikachu (Pokémon)|Pikachu]] 23:42, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Never too early to have the article set up like the rest. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:53, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

==Legendary Pokémon==
I saw two new Pokémon looks like the legendaries at the Pokémon english official site (names+artworks). Their names are Reshiram and Zekrom. I don't know if these informations are useful but... -[[User:Caciulacdlac|Caciulacdlac]]
:Already a page on Bulbanews. Also, since it's breaking news, admins, may not have had time to add it in. [[User:ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[Pikachu (Pokémon)|Pikachu]] 18:03, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
:If anyone's interested, I have userspace draft articles for [[User:Quagbert/Reshiram|Reshiram]] and [[User:Quagbert/Zekrom|Zekrom]]. I just made them as draft articles since I'm not sure if it's appropriate yet to put them in the mainspace, but when it is, any admin is free to move them (or give me the OK to do so). [[User:Quagbert|Quagbert]] 20:40, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
:I may as well mention that {{user|Jello}} also has draft articles as well: [[User:Jello/Sandbox/Reshiram (Pokémon)|Reshiram]], [[User:Jello/Sandbox/Zekrom (Pokémon)|Zekrom]] [[User:Quagbert|Quagbert]] 20:47, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
::Hi, I'm new here, but I just wanted to add a little bit of information about the names, if it hasn't been done already. In Reshiram's name, the shiramu (シラム) comes from [http://dic.yahoo.co.jp/dsearch?enc=UTF-8&p=%E7%99%BD%E3%82%80&stype=0&dtype=0 shiramu (白む)] which means "turning white" or "growing light". In Zekrom's name, the kuromu (クロム) comes from [http://dic.yahoo.co.jp/dsearch?enc=UTF-8&p=%E9%BB%92%E3%82%80&stype=0&dtype=0 kuromu (黒む)] which means "turning black" or "tinged with darkness". They're used especially with regards to the sky, for example, "the sky grows light at dawn" or "the sky is tinged with darkness at night". Hope that helps a little. [[User:AmaranthSparrow|AmaranthSparrow]] 01:31, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Oh, and just speculating, but the Re- and Ze- could come from rei (レイ) and zero (ゼロ), two pronunciations of rei (零), which obviously means "zero". [[User:AmaranthSparrow|AmaranthSparrow]] 01:43, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
::::How come nobody's yet made the articles for Reshiram and Zekrom yet? And yet people who DO create articles at strange names to get around it, they just get deleted. Why not just move them to the proper names? - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 01:50, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::We're not satisfied with them yet. And considering tomorrow's PSunday, we'll probably get more than enough data. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:51, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::We need to put informations of the two legendaries fast, my friends are asking more things about them but I just have the basic. '''[[User:Blaze of Shadow|Blaze of Shadow]]
:::::::We can't get more info yet Blaze, tell your friends to wait.--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 04:47, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
we dont even know their secondary or primary types, we only know that they are part dragon type, so not even the most basic info we have, the article would be only a picture with nothing else.--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 07:39, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
:That is all we knew about Zoroark when he was first revealed. Type and picture. Everything else was blank. [[User:Myzou|Myzou]] 08:46, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
::He was also the first Gen. V Pokémon revealed, which is why he was such a big deal. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 14:50, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

== Five Known Pokemon? ==

The article says that five Generation V Pokemon are known, but with the announcement yesterday, seven are known. It even mentions Reshiram and Zekrom in the article. Can an admin make the edit?--[[User:Celebi96|Celebi96]] 03:52, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
:And the Zekrom page is exist. Please fix this too. -[[User:Caciulacdlac|Caciulacdlac]]
::Yeah, perhaps semi-protection would be smarter here if the admins can't afford to be on top of this at all times. [[User:Shady|'''Shady]] got [[Image:PokémonDollar.png]][[User talk:Shady|10,000]] for [[Special:Contributions/Shady|winning]]''' 15:46, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
:::The template uses the number of pages to find how many are new. After that, you have to purge the content by pressing the clock by your username to make it show seven. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 15:49, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
::::<s>I see. So the reason it reads five instead of seven is that there are no articles for Zekrom and Reshiram, and the reason there are no articles for them is because they are create-protected. The admins couldn't just create the pages and protect them? [[User:Shady|'''Shady]] got [[Image:PokémonDollar.png]][[User talk:Shady|10,000]] for [[Special:Contributions/Shady|winning]]''' 15:59, 1 June 2010 (UTC</s>
:::::Didn't realize they'd been created. I've purged the content, but it still reads five. Maybe the categories haven't been added to the new legendaries' articles? [[User:Shady|'''Shady]] got [[Image:PokémonDollar.png]][[User talk:Shady|10,000]] for [[Special:Contributions/Shady|winning]]''' 16:01, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
::::::It's likely because of your cache, maybe? The generation infobox reads new Pokemon as the amount of articles in [[:Category:Generation V Pokémon]], it doesn't need to be manually updated. We apologize for any inconvenience if we don't have new Pokemon articles up within the day they're revealed- we'd like to make sure that our articles aren't sloppily put together and include all the known info... which can be difficult at times and make us go "Hm, is one line of text and a mostly-unfilled infobox really worth an article?". Not the point, I know, but I'd just like to point that out. ▫▫'''[[User:Tina|ティナ]]'''[[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|★]] 17:12, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
No, that's not it at all. I've taken a look at the source code, and it actually reads "Currently, five Generation V Pokémon are known." No template or anything. This needs to be changed. [[User:Shady|'''Shady]] got [[Image:PokémonDollar.png]][[User talk:Shady|10,000]] for [[Special:Contributions/Shady|winning]]''' 19:58, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
:OH! You're talking about the infobox! We've been talking about the specific text in the article, under the "Currently known Pokémon" section. [[User:Shady|'''Shady]] got [[Image:PokémonDollar.png]][[User talk:Shady|10,000]] for [[Special:Contributions/Shady|winning]]''' 20:00, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

==The Order==

Someone have thinged what is the right order of Zoroa,Zoroark,Reshiram and Zekram? when the numbers be show we need to make the right order. [[User:Blaze of Shadow]] 23:30, 1 June 2010
:Please make more sense.--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 05:02, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
::We don't know what numbers they are because we don't know how high the regional dex is going to go. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:56, 2 June 2010 (UTC)