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Latios (Pokémon)

2010-04-06T05:44:14Z

Minimag:

{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Latias | next=Kyogre | prevnum=380 | nextnum=382 | type=dragon | type2=psychic}}
{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Latios |
jname=ラティオス |
tmname=Latios |
image=381Latios.png |
size=230px |
caption=Artwork from R/S/E |
pron=<sc>lah-teeyohs</sc> |
ndex=381 |
hdex=197 |
odex=279 |
typen=2 |
type1=Dragon |
type2=Psychic |
species=Eon |
height-ftin=6'07" |
height-m=2.0 |
weight-lbs=132.3 |
weight-kg=60.0 |
abilityn=1 |
ability1=Levitate |
ability2= |
egggroupn=0 |
egggroup1=No eggs |
egggroup2= |
eggcycles=120 |
evsa=3|
expyield=211 |
lv100exp=1,250,000 |
gendercode=0|
color=Blue |
catchrate=3 |
body=09 |
pokefordex=latios |
generation=3 |
footnotes=}}
'''Latios''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''ラティオス''' ''Latios'') is a dual-type {{2t|Dragon|Psychic}} [[legendary Pokémon]].

It is not known to evolve into or from any other Pokémon.

==Biology==
===Physiology===
Latios has mostly the same body shape as Latias, but with a larger build. His lower body is blue instead of red and features the same triangle-shaped marking that Latias has, only red. The rest of Latios's body is gray instead of white. Latios has flatter ears and narrower eyes than Latias. The gray spot in the middle of Latios's blue face is shaped like a tear-drop. Latios also has ridge-shaped features on its rear, which may either be rudimentary feet or tails or some sort, which differs in shape to Latias's. Like Latias, Latios's forelimbs have banded markings on the insides.
====Gender differences====
Latios is a male-only species. His female counterpart is {{p|Latias}}.

====Special abilities====
Latios comes with the ability {{a|Levitate}}, which causes {{type2|Ground}} moves to miss. Latios is able to fold in his arms and fly at the speed of a jet. He can make foes see images he has seen or what he imagines in his head. He can understand human speech. Even if he is hiding, Latios can detect the locations and emotions of others using telepathy.

In the movie ''[[M05|Pokémon Heroes]]'' Latias and Latios also had the ability "Sight Sharing" which allowed Latias and people around her to see exactly what Latios was seeing. [[Oakley]] also mentioned that he can shape-shift like Latias, although he was never seen doing so during the course of the movie.

Latios is the [[Signature move|only known Pokémon]] that learns {{m|Luster Purge}}.

===Behavior===
Latios has a very protective nature, especially towards his relative, Latias. He has a docile temperament and dislikes fighting. He will open his heart if he finds a Trainer with a compassionate spirit.

===Habitat===
Much like Latias, it is mostly unknown where they inhabit, however, they tend to prefer areas that are secluded and have a body of fresh water.
[[Image:Watersedge.gif|left|frame|{{DL|List of Pokémon by habitat|Water's-edge Pokémon}}]]

===Diet===
{{main|Pokémon food}}

==In the anime==
[[Image:Latios.png|thumb|right|200px|{{mov|Latios|Latios|5}} in the anime]]
{{mov|Latios|Latios|5}} made his debut appearance in ''[[M05|Pokémon Heroes]]''. {{mov|Annie}} and [[Oakley]] captured Latios and used him to power the [[Defense Mechanism of Alto Mare]] along with the stolen [[Soul Dew]]. Latios ended up sacrificing himself to save [[Alto Mare]] from an enormous tidal wave.

A Latios also appeared in ''[[PK17|Pikachu's Ocean Adventure]]'' where, along with Latias, it used its powers to help {{AP|Pikachu}}, {{MTR}} and the other Pokémon search for the legendary 'Wailord's Tear' beneath the ocean.

==In the manga==
Latios, along with Latias, was befriended by {{Adv|Emerald}}, and took the young Trainer to the {{ho|Battle Frontier}}. He later helped [[Todd Snap|Todd]] watch the events going on on top of the {{DL|Battle Frontier (Hoenn)|Battle Pyramid}}.

==In the TCG==
{{main|Latios (TCG)}}

==Other appearances==
===[[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]===
After Latios appears from its [[Poké Ball]], he will fly off the stage. He and Latias will then alternately zoom onto the stage with {{m|Steel Wing}}, damaging any opponent that collides with them. It may also cause movement of items as well.

==Game data==
===NPC appearances===
*[[Pokémon Pinball: Ruby & Sapphire]]: If the ball drops out of the [[Ruby Field]] while the "Ball Saver" is active, Latios will rescue it and place it on Spoink without the ball being lost.

===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex
|type=dragon
|type2=psychic
|gen=3
|rubydex=Latios has the ability to make its foe see an image of what it has seen or imagines in its head. This Pokémon is intelligent and understands human speech.
|sapphiredex=Latios will only open its heart to a {{pkmn|Trainer}} with a compassionate spirit. This Pokémon can fly faster than a jet plane by folding its forelegs to minimize air resistance.
|emeralddex=Even in hiding, it can detect the locations of others and sense their emotions since it has telepathy. Its intelligence allows it to understand human languages.
|firereddex=It has a docile temperament and dislikes fighting. Tucking in its forelegs, it can fly faster than a jet plane.
|leafgreendex=It has a docile temperament and dislikes fighting. Tucking in its forelegs, it can fly faster than a jet plane.
|diamonddex=A highly intelligent Pokémon. By folding back its wings in flight, it can overtake jet planes.
|pearldex=A highly intelligent Pokémon. By folding back its wings in flight, it can overtake jet planes.
|platinumdex=A highly intelligent Pokémon. By folding back its wings in flight, it can overtake jet planes.
|heartgolddex=It understands human speech and is highly intelligent. It is a tender Pokémon that dislikes fighting.
|soulsilverdex=It understands human speech and is highly intelligent. It is a tender Pokémon that dislikes fighting.}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability|
type=dragon |
type2=psychic |
gen=3 |
rsrarity=One |
rsarea={{pkmn2|Roaming}} [[Hoenn]] (Ruby) [[Southern Island]] (Sapphire) |
erarity=One |
earea=[[Southern Island]] or {{pkmn2|roaming}} [[Hoenn]] |
frlgex=rse |
gen4ex=hgss|
hgssrarity=One |
hgssarea={{pkmn2|Roaming}} [[Kanto]] (SoulSilver) [[Pewter City]] (requires [[Mysterious Crystal]]) (HeartGold) |
palarea=Field |
}}
In Pokémon Emerald, the roaming Pokémon is chosen in a sequence immediately after the credits where, after hearing a [[television]] report, the player is asked the color of the Pokémon in it. If blue is selected Latios roams Hoenn and Latias is found at the island. If red is selected, Latios is found at the island and Latias roams Hoenn.

====In side games====
{{SidegameAvail
|type=Dragon
|type2=Psychic
|channel=[[Cobalt Coast]]
|pinballrs=Randomly on the [[Ruby Field]]
|trozei=Random Agent Cards [[Mr. Who's Den]]
|md=[[Northern Range]] (25F)
|md2=[[Spacial Rift]] (B5F) [[Midnight Forest]] (B24F){{tt|*|requires Mystery Part or Secret Slab in the bag}}
}}

===Held items===
{{HeldItems
|type=Dragon|type2=Psychic|Latios=yes
|se1=Soul Dew|se1type=None|se1rar=100
}}

===Stats===
====Base stats====
{{BaseStats|
type=dragon |
type2=psychic |
HP= 80 |
Attack= 90 |
Defense=80 |
SpAtk= 130 |
SpDef= 110 |
Speed= 110 }}

====Pokéathlon stats====
{{Pokéthlon
|type=Dragon
|type2=Psychic
|Speed=4
|SpeedMax=5
|Power=3
|PowerMax=4
|Technique=5
|TechniqueMax=5
|Stamina=2
|StaminaMax=3
|Jump=5
|JumpMax=5
}}

===Type effectiveness===
{{DP Type effectiveness|
type1=dragon|
type2=psychic|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting= 50 |
Flying= 100 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 0 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 200 |
Ghost= 200 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 50 |
Water= 50 |
Grass= 50 |
Electric= 50 |
Psychic= 50 |
Ice= 200 |
Dragon= 200 |
Dark= 200 |

notes=yes|
levitate=yes|
newground=1}}

===Learnset===
====By [[level|leveling up]]====
{{movelist|dragon|psychic|4|3|Latios}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Psywave|Psychic|Special|—|80|15|Smart|3||}}
{{mlentry4|5|Heal Block|Psychic|Status|—|100|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|10|Helping Hand|Normal|Status|—|—|20|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|15|Safeguard|Normal|Status|—|100|25|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|20|DragonBreath|Dragon|Special|60|100|20|Cool|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|25|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|30|Refresh|Normal|Status|—|—|20|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|35|Luster Purge|Psychic|Special|70|100|5|Smart|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|40|Zen Headbutt|Psychic|Physical|80|90|15|Beauty|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|45|Recover|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|50|Psycho Shift|Psychic|Status|—|90|10|Cool|0}}
{{mlentry4|55|Dragon Dance|Dragon|Status|—|—|20|Cool|0}}
{{mlentry4|60|Memento|Dark|Status|—|100|10|Tough|0}}
{{mlentry4|65|Psychic|Psychic|Special|90|100|10|Smart|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|70|Dragon Pulse|Dragon|Special|90|100|10|Smart|2||'''}}
{{movelist/note|4|dragon|psychic}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{movelisttm|Dragon|Psychic|4|3|Latios}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM02]]|Dragon Claw|Dragon|Physical|80|100|15|Cool|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM03]]|Water Pulse|Water|Special|60|100|20|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM04]]|Calm Mind|Psychic|Status|—|—|20|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM05]]|Roar|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM06]]|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|85|10|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM10]]|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|—|100|15|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM11]]|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|—|—|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM13]]|Ice Beam|Ice|Special|95|100|10|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM15]]|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|5|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM16]]|Light Screen|Psychic|Status|—|—|30|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM17]]|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM18]]|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM20]]|Safeguard|Normal|Status|—|—|25|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM21]]|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM22]]|SolarBeam|Grass|Special|120|100|10|Cool|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM24]]|Thunderbolt|Electric|Special|95|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM25]]|Thunder|Electric|Special|120|70|10|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM26]]|Earthquake|Ground|Physical|100|100|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM27]]|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM29]]|Psychic|Psychic|Special|90|100|10|Smart|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM30]]|Shadow Ball|Ghost|Special|80|100|15|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM32]]|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM33]]|Reflect|Psychic|Status|—|—|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM34]]|Shock Wave|Electric|Special|60|—|20|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM37]]|Sandstorm|Rock|Status|—|—|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM40]]|Aerial Ace|Flying|Physical|60|—|20|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM42]]|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM43]]|Secret Power|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM44]]|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM45]]|Attract|Normal|Status|—|100|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM47]]|Steel Wing|Steel|Physical|70|90|25|Cool|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM51]]|Roost|Flying|Status|—|—|10|Cool|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM53]]|Energy Ball|Grass|Special|80|100|10|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM57]]|Charge Beam|Electric|Special|50|90|10|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM58]]|Endure|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM59]]|Dragon Pulse|Dragon|Special|90|100|10|Smart|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM65]]|Shadow Claw|Ghost|Physical|70|100|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM68]]|Giga Impact|Normal|Physical|150|90|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM70]]|Flash|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM73]]|Thunder Wave|Electric|Status|—|100|10|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM77]]|Psych Up|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM78]]|Captivate|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM82]]|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM83]]|Natural Gift|Normal|Physical|—|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM85]]|Dream Eater|Psychic|Special|100|100|15|Smart|1||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM86]]|Grass Knot|Grass|Special|—|100|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM87]]|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM90]]|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM01]]|Cut|Normal|Physical|50|95|30|Cool|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM02]]|Fly|Flying|Physical|90|95|15|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM03]]|Surf|Water|Special|95|100|15|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM05]]|Defog|Flying|Status|—|—|15|Beauty|2|||DPPt}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM05]]|Whirlpool|Water|Special|15|70|15|Beauty|0|||HGSS}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM07]]|Waterfall|Water|Physical|80|100|15|Tough|3}}
{{movelist/note|4|dragon|psychic}}

====By [[Move tutor|tutoring]]====
{{tutor|dragon|psychic|4b|3|Latios}}
{{mtentry4|Dive|Water|Physical|80|100|10|Beauty|1|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Draco Meteor|Dragon|Special|140|90|5|Smart|2||'''|yes|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Fury Cutter|Bug|Physical|10|95|20|Cool|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Helping Hand|Normal|Status|—|—|20|Smart|1|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Icy Wind|Ice|Special|55|95|15|Beauty|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Last Resort|Normal|Physical|130|100|5|Cute|0|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Mud-Slap|Ground|Special|20|100|10|Cute|3|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Outrage|Dragon|Physical|120|100|15|Cool|2||'''|no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Role Play|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|Cute|1|||no|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Snore|Normal|Special|40|100|15|Cool|3|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Swift|Normal|Special|60|—|20|Cool|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Tailwind|Flying|Status|—|—|30|Smart|2|||no|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Trick|Psychic|Status|—|100|10|Smart|0|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Twister|Dragon|Special|40|100|20|Cool|3||'''|no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Zen Headbutt|Psychic|Physical|80|90|15|Beauty|2||'''|no|yes|yes}}
{{tutor/note|4|dragon|psychic}}

===Side game data===
{{Sidegame|
type=dragon |
type2=psychic |
ndex=381 |
pinballrs=Catch |
Trozei=yes |
rarity=Rare |
Dungeon=yes |
body=2 |
rate={{tt|N/A|Asks to join the team after rescuing Latias}} |
area=Southern Island |
P1=Let the power of flight make your dreams come true! |
P2=I'm not happy... Only half my HP is left. |
P3=I've had it... What good am I without my speed? |
PL=Leveled up! I'll make dreams come true! |
Partner=no |
Ranger=no |
Dungeon2=yes |
body2=2 |
rate2=0.1 |
iq=D |
Ranger3=yes |
group3=Psychic |
assist3=Psychic |
field3=None |
field3power=- |
}}

===Evolution===
{{Evobox
|sprite1=381
|name1=Latios
|type1-1=Dragon
|type2-1=Psychic
}}

===Sprites===
{{Sprite|
type=dragon|
type2=psychic|
gen=3|
gender=none|
ndex=381|
name=Latios|
}}

==Trivia==
*Latios and {{p|Latias}} were the first legendary Pokémon to have set [[gender]]s, or even genders at all.
**Despite this, they belong to the {{egg3|No eggs}}, and cannot breed.
*Latios is one of the few non-{{type|Flying}} Pokémon who can learn {{m|Fly}}. The others are {{p|Mew}}, {{p|Smeargle}} (by {{m|Sketch}}), {{p|Vibrava}}, {{p|Flygon}}, {{p|Latias}}, {{p|Giratina}}, and {{p|Arceus}}.
*Before Generation IV, Latios either resisted or was weak to every type classified as Special, taking no neutral hits from any. It shares this trait with {{p|Latias}}.
*Latios shares the same [[species]] name with his female counterpart {{p|Latias}}. They are both known as the Eon Pokémon.
*Latios is the only male-only legendary Pokémon.
* While holding [[Soul Dew]], Latios' maximum {{stat|Special Attack}} becomes 591, higher than any other Pokémon.
* Despite being legendary Pokémon, regular battle music is played when Latios and {{p|Latias}} are encountered. They share this trait with {{p|Shaymin}} and {{p|Cresselia}}.

===Origin===
Latios appears to be a cross between a {{wp|jet plane}} and a {{wp|dragon}}, although it and {{p|Latias}} may also draw inspiration from the philosophy of Yin/Yang and psychology of id/superego.
====Name origin====
It is possible that Latios's name is based on the {{wp|Latin}} word ''lateo'', hidden. The ''-os'' suffix in its name indicates that it is male, while the ''-as'' in ''{{p|Latias}}'' indicates that it is female.

==In other languages==
*[[List of German Pokémon names|German]]: Latios
*[[List of French Pokémon names|French]]: Latios
*[[List of Korean Pokémon names|Korean]]: 라티오스 ''Latios''
*[[List of Chinese Pokémon names|Chinese]]: 拉帝歐斯

==Related articles==
* [[Latios (movie 5)]]
* [[Lati@s]]

==Notes==
{{Smash Bros.}}
{{Legendary Pokémon}}
{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Latias | next=Kyogre | prevnum=380 | nextnum=382 | type=dragon | type2=psychic}}
{{Project Pokédex notice}}
[[Category:Legendary Pokémon]]
[[Category:Hoenn Legendary Pokémon]]
[[Category:Roaming Pokémon]]

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Drifblim (Pokémon)

2009-12-17T21:45:05Z

Minimag:

{{PokémonPrevNext | type=ghost | type2=flying | prevnum=425 | nextnum=427 | prev=Drifloon | next=Buneary }}
{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Drifblim |
jname=フワライド |
tmname=Fuwaride |
image=426Drifblim.png |
caption=Artwork from D/P |
pron=<sc>drif-blim</sc> |
ndex=426 |
sdex=066 |
adex=143 |
typen=2 |
type1=Ghost |
type2=Flying |
species=Blimp |
height-ftin=3'11" |
height-m=1.2 |
weight-lbs=33.1 |
weight-kg=15.0 |
abilityn=2 |
ability1=Aftermath |
ability2=Unburden |
egggroupn=1 |
egggroup1=Indeterminate |
egggroup2= |
eggcycles=30 |
evhp=2|
expyield=204 |
lv100exp=1,640,000 |
gendercode=127|
color=Purple |
catchrate=60 |
body= 04|
pokefordex= |
generation=4 |
footnotes= }}
'''Drifblim''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''フワライド''' ''Fuwaride'') is a dual-type {{2t|Ghost|Flying}} Pokémon.

It [[Evolution|evolves]] from {{p|Drifloon}} starting at [[level]] 28.

==Biology==
===Physiology===
Drifblim seems to be a living hot air balloon. Its once black eyes are now red and set far apart. It has four limbs which may be twitched to act as rudders, while its bottom is red and looks torn. It has grooves running down the body. The puff on the top of its head seems small compared to its whole body. Like Drifloon, it has a yellow "X" on its face and (as seen in [[Pokémon Adventures]] and [[Pokémon Battle Revolution]]) a little mouth on it.

====Gender differences====
None.

====Special abilities====
Unlike Drifloon, Drifblim can be used for {{m|Fly|transportation}}, having the strength to lift people. Unfortunately, like a real hot-air balloon, it goes with the winds, and as such, one cannot control its trajectory.

===Behavior===

===Habitat===

===Diet===
{{main|Pokémon food}}

==In the anime==
[[Image:Drifblimfantina.jpg|right|thumb|210px|{{TP|Fantina|Drifblim}} in the anime]]
It first appeared in in the movie ''[[The Rise of Darkrai]]'', where it floated around [[Alamos Town]], scouting for [[Tonio]].

{{TP|Fantina|Drifblim}}'s debut appearance in the anime was in ''[[DP093|Playing The Leveling Field!]]'' under the ownership of [[Fantina]]. It [[Evolution|evolved]] from {{p|Drifloon}} in the episode during its {{pkmn|battle}} with [[Ash's Pikachu]]. It appeared again in ''[[DP102|A Shield with a Twist!]]'' where it defeated Ash's Pikachu and {{AP|Buizel}}, but lost to {{AP|Chimchar|Monferno}}.

===Pokédex entries===
{{Animedexheader|Sinnoh}}
{{Animedexbody|DP093|Drifblim|Dawn's Pokédex|Drifblim, the Blimp Pokémon and the evolved form of {{p|Drifloon}}. Because it travels on wind currents, Drifblim's movements are unusual and unpredictable.}}
{{Animedexfooter/Pokémon|''Diamond & Pearl''|Sinnoh}}

==In the manga==
When {{adv|Diamond}}, {{adv|Pearl}} and {{adv|Platinum}} were in [[Hearthome City]], [[Fantina]] used her Drifblim to throw off some women who were teasing the trio about being rookies in contests.
Fantina then lent her Drifblim to Platinum for her to go to [[Canalave City]] and rescue her father.

==In the TCG==
{{main|Drifblim (TCG)}}

==Game data==
===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex
|type=ghost
|type2=flying
|gen=4
|diamonddex=It's drowsy in daytime, but flies off in the evening in big groups. No one knows where they go.
|pearldex=It carries people and Pokémon when it flies. But since it only drifts, it can end up anywhere.
|platinumdex=At dusk, swarms of them are carried aloft on winds. When noticed, they suddenly vanish.
}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability|
type=ghost |
type2=flying |
gen=4 |
dparea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Drifloon}} |
ptarea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Drifloon}} |
hgssex=pal|
hgssarea=[[Trade]] |
}}

====In side games====
{{SidegameAvail
|type=Ghost
|type2=Flying
|md2=[[Mt. Mistral]] (1F-19F)
|ranger2=[[Volcano Cave]] [[Chroma Ruins]] [[Hippowdon Temple]]
|scramble=[[Cold Meadow]]
}}

===Stats===
====Base stats====
{{BaseStats|
type=ghost |
type2=flying |
HP= 150 |
Attack= 80 |
Defense=44 |
SpAtk= 90 |
SpDef= 54 |
Speed= 80 }}

====Pokéthlon stats====
{{Pokéthlon
|type=Ghost
|type2=Flying
|Speed=3
|SpeedMax=4
|Power=3
|PowerMax=3
|Technique=2
|TechniqueMax=2
|Stamina=4
|StaminaMax=5
|Jump=5
|JumpMax=5
}}

===Type effectiveness===
{{DP type effectiveness|
type1=ghost|
type2=flying|
Normal= 0 |
Fighting= 0 |
Flying= 100 |
Poison= 50 |
Ground= 0 |
Rock= 200 |
Bug= 25 |
Ghost= 200 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 100 |
Water= 100 |
Grass= 50 |
Electric=200 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 200 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 200 |

notes=yes|
ghost=yes|
newnormal=1|
newfighting=½|
flying=yes|
newground=1}}.

===Learnset===
{{learnset intro|Drifblim}}
====By [[level|leveling up]]====
{{movelist|ghost|flying|4|4|Drifblim}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Constrict|Normal|Physical|10|100|35|Tough|0}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Minimize|Normal|Status|—|—|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Astonish|Ghost|Physical|30|100|15|Smart|3||'''}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Gust|Flying|Special|40|100|35|Smart|3||'''}}
{{mlentry4|6|Astonish|Ghost|Physical|30|100|15|Smart|3||'''}}
{{mlentry4|11|Gust|Flying|Special|40|100|35|Smart|3||'''}}
{{mlentry4|14|Focus Energy|Normal|Status|—|—|30|Cool|0}}
{{mlentry4|17|Payback|Dark|Physical|50|100|10|Cool|1}}
{{mlentry4|22|Stockpile|Normal|Status|—|—|20|Tough|0}}
{{mlentry4|27|Spit Up|Normal|Special|—|100|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|27|Swallow|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Tough|0}}
{{mlentry4|32|Ominous Wind|Ghost|Special|60|100|5|Smart|0||'''}}
{{mlentry4|37|Baton Pass|Normal|Status|—|—|40|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|44|Shadow Ball|Ghost|Special|80|100|15|Smart|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|51|Explosion|Normal|Physical|250|100|5|Beauty|0}}
{{movelist/note|4|ghost|flying}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{movelisttm|ghost|flying|4|4|Drifblim}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM04]]|Calm Mind|Psychic|Status|—|—|20|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM06]]|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|85|10|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM10]]|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|—|100|15|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM11]]|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|—|—|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM15]]|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|5|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM17]]|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM18]]|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM21]]|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM24]]|Thunderbolt|Electric|Special|95|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM25]]|Thunder|Electric|Special|120|70|10|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM27]]|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM29]]|Psychic|Psychic|Special|90|100|10|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM30]]|Shadow Ball|Ghost|Special|80|100|15|Smart|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM32]]|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM34]]|Shock Wave|Electric|Special|60|—|20|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM42]]|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM43]]|Secret Power|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM44]]|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM45]]|Attract|Normal|Status|—|100|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM46]]|Thief|Dark|Physical|40|100|10|Tough|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM48]]|Skill Swap|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM57]]|Charge Beam|Electric|Special|50|90|10|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM58]]|Endure|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM61]]|Will-O-Wisp|Fire|Status|—|75|15|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM62]]|Silver Wind|Bug|Special|60|100|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM63]]|Embargo|Dark|Status|—|100|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM64]]|Explosion|Normal|Physical|250|100|5|Beauty|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM66]]|Payback|Dark|Physical|50|100|10|Cool|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM67]]|Recycle|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM68]]|Giga Impact|Normal|Physical|150|90|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM70]]|Flash|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM73]]|Thunder Wave|Electric|Status|—|100|10|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM74]]|Gyro Ball|Steel|Physical|—|100|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM77]]|Psych Up|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM78]]|Captivate|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM82]]|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM83]]|Natural Gift|Normal|Physical|—|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM85]]|Dream Eater|Psychic|Special|100|100|15|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM87]]|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM90]]|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM01]]|Cut|Normal|Physical|50|95|30|Cool|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM02]]|Fly|Flying|Physical|90|95|15|Smart|1||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM05]]|Defog|Flying|Status|—|—|15|Beauty|2}}
{{movelist/note|4|ghost|flying}}

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
{{eggmoves|ghost|flying|4|4|Drifblim}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Slugma}}, {{p|Magcargo}} {{p|Swalot}} {{p|Shellos}}|Body Slam|Normal|Physical|85|100|15|Tough|3}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Gastly}}, {{p|Haunter}}, {{p|Gengar}} {{p|Koffing}}, {{p|Weezing}} {{p|Misdreavus}}, {{p|Mismagius}} {{p|Wobbuffet}} {{p|Ralts}}, {{p|Kirlia}}, {{p|Gardevoir}}, {{p|Gallade}} {{p|Gulpin}}, {{p|Swalot}} {{p|Shuppet}}, {{p|Banette}} {{p|Duskull}}, {{p|Dusclops}}, {{p|Dusknoir}} {{p|Spiritomb}} {{p|Rotom}}|Destiny Bond|Ghost|Status|—|—|5|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Grimer}}, {{p|Muk}} {{p|Ralts}}, {{p|Kirlia}}, {{p|Gardevoir}}, {{p|Gallade}} {{p|Castform}} {{p|Shuppet}}, {{p|Banette}} {{p|Duskull}}, {{p|Dusclops}}, {{p|Dusknoir}} {{p|Chimecho}}|Disable|Normal|Status|—|80|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Grimer}}, {{p|Muk}} {{p|Gastly}}, {{p|Haunter}}, {{p|Gengar}} {{p|Koffing}}, {{p|Weezing}}|Haze|Ice|Status|—|—|30|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Gardevoir}}, {{p|Gallade}} {{p|Chimecho}} {{p|Spiritomb}}|Hypnosis|Psychic|Status|—|60|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Grimer}}, {{p|Muk}} {{p|Koffing}}, {{p|Weezing}} {{p|Misdreavus}}, {{p|Mismagius}} {{p|Slugma}}, {{p|Magcargo}} {{p|Ralts}}, {{p|Kirlia}}, {{p|Gardevoir}}, {{p|Gallade}} {{p|Duskull}}, {{p|Dusclops}}, {{p|Dusknoir}} {{p|Shellos}}, {{p|Gastrodon}} {{p|Spiritomb}}|Memento|Dark|Status|—|100|10|Tough|0}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Castform}}|Weather Ball|Normal|Special|50|100|10|Smart|2|||HGSS}}
{{eggmoves/note|4|ghost|flying}}

====By [[Move tutor|tutoring]]====
{{tutor|ghost|flying|4a|4|drifblim}}
{{mtentry4a|Air Cutter|Flying|Special|55|95|25|Cool|3||'''|no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Icy Wind|Ice|Special|55|95|15|Beauty|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Knock Off|Dark|Physical|20|100|20|Smart|3|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Mud-Slap|Ground|Special|20|100|10|Cute|3|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Ominous Wind|Ghost|Special|60|100|5|Smart|0||'''|no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Pain Split|Normal|Status|—|—|20|Smart|2|||no|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Role Play|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|Cute|1|||no|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Rollout|Rock|Physical|30|90|20|Tough|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Snore|Normal|Special|40|100|15|Cute|3|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Spite|Ghost|Status|—|100|10|Tough|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Sucker Punch|Dark|Physical|80|100|5|Smart|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Swift|Normal|Special|60|—|20|Cool|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Tailwind|Flying|Status|—|—|30|Smart|2|||no|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Trick|Psychic|Status|—|100|10|Smart|0|||no|yes|yes}}
{{tutor/note|4a|ghost|flying}}

===Side game data===
{{Side game|
type=ghost |
ndex=426 |
Dungeon2=yes |
body2=1 |
rate2=2.5% |
iq=G |
Ranger2=yes |
typeG2=Ghost |
typeA2=Ghost |
field2=Elevate |
field2power=- |
browser2=It launches eerie orbs to attack. |
}}

===Evolution===
{{evobox
|family=Normal
|sprite1=425
|name1=Drifloon
|type1-1=Ghost
|type2-1=Flying
|evotype1=Level
|level1=28
|sprite2=426
|name2=Drifblim
|type1-2=Ghost
|type2-2=Flying}}

===Sprites===
{{Sprite|
type=ghost|
type2=flying|
gen=4|
gender=none|
ndex=426|
name=Drifblim|
}}

==Trivia==
*Drifblim has the highest {{stat|HP}} stat of all {{t|Flying}}- and is tied with giratina for the highest {{stat|HP}} for all {{type2|Ghost}} Pokémon.
*Drifblim is the only Pokémon that has a [[base stat total]] of 498.
*Drifblim along with its pre-evolution {{p|Drifloon}} are the only Ghost-types that are immune to {{type2|Ground}} attacks that do not have {{a|Levitate}} as their ability (due to their secondary type).
*Considering only types, Drifblim and Drifloon are the Pokémon with the most immunities, with three (to Normal, Fighting, and Ground); they are tied with {{p|Sableye}} and {{p|Spiritomb}}, who are immune to Normal-, Fighting-, and Psychic-type moves.

===Origin===
Drifblim is based on a {{wp|hot air balloon}}.

====Name origin====
Its name is derived from ''drift'' and ''{{wp|blimp}}''. Drifblim's Japanese name may be derived from 付和雷同 ''fuwaraidō'', the Japanese word meaning to follow others blindly. It could also be a combination of ''fuga'' (Latin for flight) and ride. It also may be derived from ふわふわ ''fuwa fuwa'', meaning soft, fluffy, and light, or an {{wp|onomatopoeia}} for floating, 風船 ''fūsen'', balloon, and ride.

==In other languages==
*[[List of German Pokémon names|German]]: Drifzepeli - From ''drift'' and ''{{wp|zeppelin}}''.
*[[List of French Pokémon names|French]]: Grodrive - From ''gros'' (big) and ''dérive'' (drift).
*[[List of Korean Pokémon names|Korean]]: 둥실라이드 ''Doong-sil-ride'' - Combination of 둥실 ''doongsil'' (fluffy) and the word ''ride'' in English.

==Related articles==
* [[Fantina's Drifblim]]

{{PokémonPrevNext | type=ghost | type2=flying | prevnum=425 | nextnum=427 | prev=Drifloon | next=Buneary}}
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[[de:Drifzepeli]]
[[es:Drifblim]]
[[fr:Grodrive]]
[[ja:フワライド]]
[[pl:Drifblim]]
[[pt:Drifblim (pokémon)]]

Metal Sound (move)

2009-11-28T02:55:05Z

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{{MoveInfobox|
n=319 |
name=Metal Sound |
jname=きんぞくおん |
jtrans=Metal Sound |
desc=A horrible sound like scraping metal is emitted to sharply reduce the foe's Sp. Def stat. |
gameimage=Metalsound.JPG |
type=Steel |
damagecategory=Status |
basepp=40 |
maxpp=64 |
power=— |
accuracy=85 |
bdesc=??? |
gen=III |
category=Smart |
appeal=1 |
jam=3 |
cdesc=Badly startles those that have made appeals. |
appealsc=2 |
scdesc=Lowers the Voltage of all Judges by one each. |
pokefordex=metal+sound |
touches=no |
protect=yes |
magiccoat=yes |
snatch=no |
brightpowder=yes |
kingsrock=no |
flag7=no |
flag8=no |
sound=yes |
target=any |
footnotes= }}
'''Metal Sound''' (Japanese: '''きんぞくおん''' ''Metal Sound'') is a non-damaging {{type2|Steel}} move introduced in [[Generation III]].

==Effect==
Metal Sound lowers the target's {{stat|Special Defense}} by two stages.

==Learnset==
===[[Generation III]]===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{Learnlist|Steel}}
{{Moveentry|081|Magnemite|2|Electric|Steel|--|}}
{{Moveentry|082|Magneton|2|Electric|Steel|--}}
{{Moveentry|140|Kabuto|2|Rock|Water|43}}
{{Moveentry|141|Kabutops|2|Rock|Water|45}}
{{Moveentry|227|Skarmory|2|Steel|Flying|45|}}
{{Moveentry|304|Aron|2|Steel|Rock|39|}}
{{Moveentry|305|Lairon|2|Steel|Rock|45|}}
{{Moveentry|306|Aggron|2|Steel|Rock|50|}}
{{Learnlist/footer}}

====By [[purification]]====
{{Purificationlist|Steel}}
{{Moveentry|145|Zapdos|2|Electric|Flying|[[Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness|XD]]}}
{{Learnlist/footer}}

===[[Generation IV]]===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{Learnlist|Steel}}
{{Moveentry|081|Magnemite|2|Electric|Steel|--|}}
{{Moveentry|082|Magneton|2|Electric|Steel|--}}
{{Moveentry|140|Kabuto|2|Rock|Water|41}}
{{Moveentry|141|Kabutops|2|Rock|Water|45}}
{{Moveentry|227|Skarmory|2|Steel|Flying|33|||DP}}
{{Moveentry|227|Skarmory|2|Steel|Flying|31|||PtHGSS}}
{{Moveentry|304|Aron|2|Steel|Rock|36|}}
{{Moveentry|305|Lairon|2|Steel|Rock|40|}}
{{Moveentry|306|Aggron|2|Steel|Rock|40|}}
{{Moveentry|410|Shieldon|2|Steel|Rock|10|}}
{{Moveentry|411|Bastiodon|2|Steel|Rock|-- 10|}}
{{Moveentry|413|Wormadam|2|Bug|Steel|29||Trash}}
{{Moveentry|448|Lucario|2|Fighting|Steel|24|}}
{{Moveentry|462|Magnezone|2|Electric|Steel|--|}}
{{Moveentry|485|Heatran|2|Fire|Steel|25|}}
{{Learnlist/footer}}

==In other languages==
* Spanish: '''Eco Metálico'''
* Italian: '''Ferrostrido'''
* German: '''Metallsound'''

{{Screech}}
{{Project MoveDex notice}}

[[de:Metallsound]]
[[ja:きんぞくおん]]
[[pt:Metal Sound]]

Metal Sound (move)

2009-11-28T02:51:35Z

Minimag:

{{MoveInfobox|
n=319 |
name=Metal Sound |
jname=きんぞくおん |
jtrans=Metal Sound |
desc=A horrible sound like scraping metal is emitted to sharply reduce the foe's Sp. Def stat. |
gameimage=Metalsound.JPG |
type=Steel |
damagecategory=Status |
basepp=40 |
maxpp=64 |
power=— |
accuracy=85 |
bdesc=??? |
gen=III |
category=Smart |
appeal=1 |
jam=3 |
cdesc=Badly startles those that have made appeals. |
appealsc=2 |
scdesc=Lowers the Voltage of all Judges by one each. |
pokefordex=metal+sound |
touches=no |
protect=yes |
magiccoat=yes |
snatch=no |
brightpowder=yes |
kingsrock=no |
flag7=no |
flag8=no |
sound=yes |
target=any |
footnotes= }}
'''Metal Sound''' (Japanese: '''きんぞくおん''' ''Metal Sound'') is a non-damaging {{type2|Steel}} move introduced in [[Generation III]].

==Effect==
Metal Sound lowers the target's {{stat|Special Defense}} by two stages.

==Learnset==
===[[Generation III]]===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{Learnlist|Steel}}
{{Moveentry|081|Magnemite|2|Electric|Steel|--|}}
{{Moveentry|082|Magneton|2|Electric|Steel|--}}
{{Moveentry|140|Kabuto|2|Rock|Water|43}}
{{Moveentry|141|Kabutops|2|Rock|Water|45}}
{{Moveentry|227|Skarmory|2|Steel|Flying|45|}}
{{Moveentry|304|Aron|2|Steel|Rock|39|}}
{{Moveentry|305|Lairon|2|Steel|Rock|45|}}
{{Moveentry|306|Aggron|2|Steel|Rock|50|}}
{{Learnlist/footer}}

====By [[purification]]====
{{Purificationlist|Steel}}
{{Moveentry|145|Zapdos|2|Electric|Flying|[[Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness|XD]]}}
{{Learnlist/footer}}

===[[Generation IV]]===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{Learnlist|Steel}}
{{Moveentry|081|Magnemite|2|Electric|Steel|--|}}
{{Moveentry|082|Magneton|2|Electric|Steel|--}}
{{Moveentry|140|Kabuto|2|Rock|Water|41}}
{{Moveentry|141|Kabutops|2|Rock|Water|45}}
{{Moveentry|227|Skarmory|2|Steel|Flying|33|||DP}}
{{Moveentry|227|Skarmory|2|Steel|Flying|31|||PtHGSS}}
{{Moveentry|304|Aron|2|Steel|Rock|36|}}
{{Moveentry|305|Lairon|2|Steel|Rock|40|}}
{{Moveentry|306|Aggron|2|Steel|Rock|40|}}
{{Moveentry|410|Shieldon|2|Steel|Rock|10|}}
{{Moveentry|411|Bastiodon|2|Steel|Rock|-- 10|}}
{{Moveentry|413|Wormadam|2|Bug|Steel|29||Trash}}
{{Moveentry|448|Lucario|2|Fighting|Steel|24|}}
{{Moveentry|462|Magnezone|2|Electric|Steel|--|}}
{{Moveentry|485|Heatran|2|Fire|Steel|25|}}
{{Learnlist/footer}}

==In other languages==
* Spanish: '''Eco Metálico'''
* Italian: '''Ferrostrido'''
* German: '''Metallsound'''

{{Screech}}
{{Project MoveDex notice}}

[[de:Metallsound]]
[[ja:きんぞくおん]]
[[pt:Metal Sound]]

Talk:Legendary Pokémon/Archive2

2009-11-23T05:14:42Z

Minimag:

[[Talk:Legendary Pokémon/Archive1|Archive #1]]

== WTF? ==

Giratina controls dimensions? That's stupid... can somebody remove that? Time and Space (depth, lengh and width) are the freaking dimensions everyone!!! So Giratina has more power than both Dialga and Palkia? I think not. Remember that Giratina lives in the Distortion World... a place that disobeys the laws of Time and Space. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 22:26, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

There are 2 types of dimensions, matematical, which you were talking about, and spacial, which would be under Giratina's control. If you don't belive me, look up "Plane (metaphysics)" on Wikipedia. The dimensions that Giratina controls are '''alternate planes of exictence''', also called '''dimensions'''!- ''unsigned comment from {{u|GuyNamedSean}} ([[User talk:GuyNamedSean|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/GuyNamedSean|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''
:It seems that Giratina can control gravity, or atleast that is how I enterpreted the explanation of its form shift. It also makes some sense because gravity could be considered a third factor in time-space [[User:Enigmaberry|Enigmaberry]] 02:29, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

:I agree with hfc2X, this needs to be changed. It was never officially stated anywhere that Giratina controls dimensions or anything at all, really. If you guys are going to write up fan speculation, you can at least, you know, actually make a note of that. [[User:Marlowe|Marlowe]] 02:17, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

:An additional note, after editing the page a few times I noticed that only established users are allowed to make changes, my mistake there. Still, this needs to be changed for accuracy. [[User:Marlowe|Marlowe]] 02:30, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
::You do realize that this talk section is from BEFORE Platinum was released in English, right? '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 02:34, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
::What does that have to do with anything? Whether it's from one day or even five years ago, it doesn't change the fact that a change still needs to be made. As an encyclopedia, this doesn't need fanon crap. [[User:Marlowe|Marlowe]] 02:36, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Because Platinum confirmed it. Duh. '''~ platinum[[User:Sol|s]][[User talk:Sol|o]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|l]]''' 02:37, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
::::Prove it, then. [[User:Marlowe|Marlowe]] 02:38, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::Disprove it, then. '''~ platinum[[User:Sol|s]][[User talk:Sol|o]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|l]]''' 02:39, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
::::::It is also said in the Distortion World by Cyrus about Giratina's control over dimensions...I'm way, way ahead of that, otherwise I'd give you the exact quote.--[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 02:39, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::My bad. I forgot. Giratina can't go between dimensions, or drag people into the Distorted World, or anything like that. Sorry. I guess it has no real power. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 02:40, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Spare me the reverse psychology, Sol, you said that Platinum confirmed it and I'm telling you to point to me where that was specifically confirmed. You're the one making false claims, not me. It was never stated that Giratina controls dimensions, this is FAN SPECULATION which is something that Bulbapedia frowns on if I'm not mistaken. At least it's something they should be frowning upon. [[User:Marlowe|Marlowe]] 02:45, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
::::::::If you can't prove that it hasn't been proved, then it's useless to try and say that it's fan speculation. PsychicRider has confirmed it, so no, it's not fan speculation. '''~ platinum[[User:Sol|s]][[User talk:Sol|o]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|l]]''' 02:46, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::Quit acting like a politician and disprove it. You're avoiding what somebody tells you that goes against what you're trying to say. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 02:49, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
:Sol, you're the one who's in a position to prove something, not me. I basically asked "Where was that confirmed?" and you've yet to answer that question. I would like the specific quote of Cyrus stating this, though, as I don't recall it. [[User:Marlowe|Marlowe]] 02:53, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
::I'm way past that, as in Battle Frontier past, but I do remember that it is confirmed from Cyrus's dialogue. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 02:59, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
:::So I'm apparently supposed to conveniently be at the point in time where Cyrus says that specific quote. '''~ platinum[[User:Sol|s]][[User talk:Sol|o]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|l]]''' 03:02, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
::::No, this isn't a perfect quote, but: "Hmm... so Giratina disappeared into the real world... it doesn't matter. I'll capture it, and then I'll use the dimensional powers of Giratina to form a new world here and destroy the real one." '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 03:06, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::I believe that's the quote I was looking for...boys, we have our proof. :D. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 03:08, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

:::::In that case (if that was explicitly stated), I stand corrected. Thanks. [[User:Marlowe|Marlowe]] 03:10, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
::::::Don't mention it. It only took me 30 minutes to think of. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 03:13, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

:Not to sound like a broken record here, but I've just gotten through the Distortion World on my second run-through and Cyrus doesn't make that statement anywhere. I even saved right before the battle with Giratina to see what Cyrus would say in both scenarios (catching Giratina or defeating it), but the dialogue only changes slightly and there's still no explicit mention of it having control over dimensions. Besides, aren't space and time dimensions as well? Judging from some of the official interviews on Giratina I've just read, I'm more inclined to say that Giratina simply controls antimatter. If I'm not mistaken, antimatter IS considered to be the third factor out of time and space, after all. I propose that we take "dimensions" out of the sentence. [[User:Marlowe|Marlowe]] 08:22, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
::I watched a Youtube video and saw the same thing. But no. Dimensions isn't coming out. The descriptions aren't just for the games, but also the anime/movies you have to remember. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 12:30, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

== Bubbly Mew ==

Wherever I go, whatever I read that's about Mew or the first movie, it says something like "The Bubbly Mew appeared in the first move", or something like that. Now, why is it called "Bubbly Mew" and why is it just the Mew in the first movie? And where did that term of Bubbly Mew ever come from?--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 22:25, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
:Maybe it's that the Mew in the first movie enjoyed making bubbles. [[user:Simpsonsdude13| SD13 Simpsondude13>''']][[user talk:Simpsonsdude13|SD13 Talk]] 20:44, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
==Phione?==
Does Phione really count? And why not Unown? I always thought of the symbols as legends. Me and my fellow torchics agree on this - Sk8torchic
:Phione counts because to get one you have to breed a legendary. Unown doesn't because it's extremely distant from any other legendary. Note the beasts and the birds. Sure they're separated by the powerhouses and events by Dratini and Larvitar's families, but they're next to each other and divided from the others by no more than three Pokémon. Unown has 50 down and 42 up. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:41, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
::So all legends have to be near each other in the pokedex? Since when? Me and my fellow torchics agree on this - Sk8torchic 16:07, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

:::Besides, nobody would buy Unown being legendary, what with how they're found all over the place in the [[Ruins of Alph]], [[Tanoby Chambers]], and [[Solaceon Ruins]]. Trust me, in the time it takes to breed for one Phione, odds are one could catch 2 PC boxes entirely full of Unown (although there's no guarantee that all 28 forms would be included)...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 16:54, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

== Can we really stop saying that Rayquaza is based on a Ziz ==

It really isn't. The closest thing we have to a bird whose wingspan is large enough to block out the sun is Lugia, atleast according to the accounts of an elderly NPC in Ecruteak city.--[[User:Outrage DD|Outrage DD]] 22:05, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
:Well, Groudon isn't a giant hippo...elephant...rhino...''thing''...—[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 23:56, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
::They are both based on the concept of these legendary creatures. Masters of the sky and land respectivly.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 00:43, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

== Info ==
Why is {{P|Rotom}} not a legendary?, I'm not complaining, I just want to know why.[[User:Pokemonguy1|Pokemonguy1]] 18:28, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
: *[[Talk:Rotom_(Pok%C3%A9mon)/Archive_1|slaps with a wet Magikarp]]* Archives are your friends. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 01:46, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

because it doesn't have monster stats--[[User:Pokemongirl1|PG1 FTW!]] 15:25, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

:Neither does {{p|Phione}}, and yet it's still a Legendary. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 19:17, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

::That's because {{p|Manaphy|a legendary is needed to obtain it}}. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User Talk:Theryguy512|512]]''' 19:40, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
:::Just a reminder that this is a forums topic.... o_0 Go there, peeps. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 09:38, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

All you need to do to catch it is to press a on a tv during night time. to get a phione, like it was said before, you need to have manaphy and breed it. --[[User:Usyflad10|Usyflad10]] ([[User talk:Usyflad10|talk]]) 23:35, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

== Legendary Pokémon group picture ==

I made this: [http://student-kmt.hku.nl/~abel1/PF2pictures/Legendary%20Pok%e9mon.jpg]

I think it'll be nice if it was placed in this article, next to (or instead of) that Entei pic.

Greetz,
Abel
:It's nice really but the thing is that the Johto legends will be getting new artworks soon and, maybe, the admins might not like the signature on the upper right. Also, Deoxys is actually shorter than Mewtwo. [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 12:33, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
::Just a reminder that fan art, I think, is generally frowned on. While that is very impressive, we can't use it here. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 21:06, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

== Latios and Latias ==

So I know that the current pic is better than the last, but I'm pretty sure it's {{tt|fan made.|Copyright info doesn't make it official... it only makes the claim that somebody owns the rights to characters...}} And we aren't supposed to have fan pics on pages. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 21:06, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
:Are you sure about that? That's the same font the Pokémon Company uses, it's in Sugimori's style, ''and'' it has his {{wp|Seal (East Asia)|hanko}} on it...—[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 22:31, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

::{{tt|Who's the girl though?|forgot about this since the database was locked at the time...}} '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 21:09, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Beats me. But that's definitely official. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:21, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

== Protection Error? ==

Isn't this page protected? I had no problem editing it, and I'm no admin. --[[User:CuboneKing|CUBONE PWNS]] ([[User talk:CuboneKing|Planet Cubone]] • [[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|Bone Club]]) [[Cubone (Pokémon)|THE VERY BEST PAGE!]] 20:28, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
:New users are blocked from editing (which, at the current state of the wiki does nothing). Only admins may move the page, though. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:31, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
::Ohhhhhhhhh... NOW I get it... --[[User:CuboneKing|CUBONE PWNS]] ([[User talk:CuboneKing|Planet Cubone]] • [[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|Bone Club]]) [[Cubone (Pokémon)|THE VERY BEST PAGE!]] 20:35, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

== Trivia: Legendary Pokémon Themes ==

It should be noted that in the upcoming games, HeartGold and SoulSilver, that Lugia and Ho-Oh now both have their own, distinct themes in the upcoming games. It was confirmed on the "never before seen footage" on Pokémon Sunday where they revealed meeting Lugia and Ho-Oh in the games. :) From the small clips you can hear, Ho-Oh's theme seems to be very Japanese-percussion based (taiko drums) and Lugia's is very orchestral-dramatics based. {{unsigned|Gimmetokyo}}

== New article ==
Since the Legendary Trios and Duos have articles, should the Legendarys without a group (Trio Master's not included) get there own article too? {{unsigned|Blackstone Dresden}}

:If you mean Legendaries like {{p|Mew}}, {{p|Celebi}}, and {{p|Manaphy}}, then no. What would we write that isn't already on their own pages? '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 04:16, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

== Arceus HGSS pic ==

[[Image:Arceus - HGSS Event Artwork.jpg|thumb|left|150px]]
 How about adding it? -- [[User:RikkiKitsune|R<s>ikki</s>]][[User talk:RikkiKitsune|Kitsune]] 21:26, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

If I could, I would!--[[User:The Bulb's Master|The Bulb's Master]] 12:45, 13 August 2009 (UTC) Master of Bulbasaur and Turtwig♀

:I didn't place that one since one for the Azure Flute event would be better. It would be similar to Darkrai and Shaymin. [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 12:49, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

::I'll put it in for now. We can always change it when the Flute event gets its own artwork. We're using the HGSS Beasts artwork aren't we? '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 16:25, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

== Edit! ==
I can't edit, but one of you should include that they can be found in Sinnoh.--[[User:The Bulb's Master|The Bulb's Master]] 12:44, 13 August 2009 (UTC) Master of Bulbasaur and Turtwig♀

== "Legendary" ==
Is the term "legendary" an official descriptor or one applied by the fandom? [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 23:55, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
:Its official. It appears in the games, anime, and all sorts of sources. It even appears in some Pokédex entries. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 01:38, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
::Yeah, I've been playing Blue and the first instance of the term "legendary Pokemon" is on Route 14 by a Bird Keeper, for future reference. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 03:45, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

==[[Arcanine]]==
"If you were looking for the "Legendary Pokémon" species, see Arcanine (Pokémon). "
Why does it say that? What does it have to do with anything [[User:Qim1|Qim1]] 00:05, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
:Arcanine's [[species]] name is "Legendary Pokémon". In comparison, Bulbasaur's is "Seed Pokémon". Just on the off-chance that someone thinks Arcanine is actually a Legendary Pokémon, in the sense meant on this page. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:28, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
::Arcanine is considered as legendary in Chinese... since many [[Pokédex]] entries says Arcanine is from China.[[User:Palkia38|Palkia38]] 07:09, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

==Pokemon of Legend, Illusion, and Myth==
Is there any source for these categories of legendaries? The main paragraph suggests the Japanese versions identify legendaries differently that was narrowed for translation... What Pokemon are in these various categories, and why? What exactly do the Japanese versions say? [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 03:48, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

==Slowpoke/king==
This may meet with some dissent, but would Slowpoke or Slowking qualify under "Other Pokemon of myth"? Slowpoke is pretty dominantly featured in GSC and HG/SS, as well as the corresponding anime episode, as the savior of Azalea in time of need. He's practically worshiped there. I don't believe this story was ever explicitly stated as fact, but rather as a cultural legend of sorts. That means Slowpoke is featured in a legend, and so possibly counts as a low-tier legendary like Arcanine of Togepi.

Slowking may same to fit the position more, but the extent of its qualification are the second movie. I don't know if human speech, a knowledge of ancient prophecies, and a role in that prophecy coming true/being resolved counts as a legendary, but should also be considered.

So, what are the opinions on counting on or both as minor legendaries? I'll agree to any consensus, but just thought it would be worth bringing up since Slowpoke does garner some "It's a legendary" statements from time to time. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 00:48, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
:Pastoria worships Croagunk. Does that mean it's a minor legendary too? Slowpoke, as far as I know, only gets mentioned as legendary [[User:TTEchidna/Slopoke (that i ran into the other day)|when people are being sarcastic]].--'''[[Water (type)|Liquid]]''' [[Mask of Ice|'''ICE''']] (User:Cold)([[user:Cold|page]], [[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 00:55, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
::I was unaware of Croagunk's position in that area, though that does get me thinking... Slowpoke, Croagunk, and possibly some of the "Other Pokemon of myth" featured here might do well on a "Pokemon of cultural significance" kind of article. I expect gen 5 will introduce at least one new Pokemon that is treated similarly to these two, so at that time it might be feasible to make such an article. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 00:58, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
:::We need more than two Pokémon of culutral significance to make it an article. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:02, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
::::Which is why I suggested waiting until gen 5 when another Pokemon may be featured. But, as it stands now, Arcanine, Ninetails, and the Togepi line are strong candidates for such an article. Note that "legendary" is as much a fan-term as a canon one, so creating a corollary term for culturally-significant Pokemon would be ideal as well as alleviate the constant arguing about who is and isn't a legendary, when frankly many of the supposed legendaries ''would'' make more sense in a culture article. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 01:07, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

== Unique Pokemon ==

: So which Pokemon exactly are "unique" besides Mewtwo? I'm just curious. Also, has it ever been '''confirmed''' that Mewtwo is unique? [[User:LugiaRocks|'''LugiaRox''']] 02:34, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
::Well he is the first cloned legendary, first created legendary. But that's probably speculation.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 03:49, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
::: Mewtwo is a special case. He's not even a "legendary" in the in-universe sense (no associated legends), only in the fanon sense. Discussing what other Pokemon are "unique" is beating a dead horse, since it's been done before and there's no way we can no for sure. Looking at it one way, nearly every Pokemon is unique, but in another way there's room for multiplies. Who knows? As for created Pokemon akin to Mewtwo, I'm sure that area will be explored at some point. Come gen 5, all the loose strings will be tired up. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 03:55, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
:::: I believe we could safely say that Arceus is unique. [[User:LugiaRocks|'''LugiaRox''']] 05:07, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
::::: Arceus is the personification of a concept. There could very well be more than one, with each being an avatar of an incomprehensible concept. It's called pantheism. Hindis practice it. [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 05:46, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
::::::Hindu's you moron, hindi is the language they speak in india!--[[User:Minimag|Minimag]] 05:14, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

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'''Power Whip''' (Japanese: '''パワーウィップ''' ''Power Whip'') is a damage-dealing {{type2|Grass}} [[move]] introduced in [[Generation IV]].

==Effect==
Power Whip inflicts damage and has no secondary effect.

==Learnset==
===[[Generation IV]]===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{Learnlist|Grass}}
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{{Moveentry|114|Tangela|1|Grass||54|'''}}
{{Moveentry|455|Carnivine|1|Grass||47|'''}}
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{{Moveentryspecial|114|Tangela|1|Grass||[[Hayley%27s trades#Tangela|My Pokémon Ranch]]||1}}
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=Trivia=
* Power Whip has the second highest base power out of all {{type2|Grass}} moves, losing to leaf storm by 20 points, not counting [[Grass Knot]].
** However, it is only learned by the four out of all the six Pokémon as a STAB. The only ones who do not have STAB with this move are {{p|Lickitung}} and {{p|Lickilicky}}.
* Carnivine is the only Pokémon not in an evolutionary family to learn this move.

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* French: '''Megafouet'''
* German: '''Blattgeißel'''
* Italian: '''Vigorcolpo'''

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==Hello==
My first archive move. How did I do?--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 12:30, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
:So you archive talk page for every 50kb? Mine's 100. '''►[[User:Kevzo8|Ҝə]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|υz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|ø8]]''' 12:35, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
::Yep. Is that too little?--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 12:36, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
:::No, it's fine. After all, it's your personal preference. 100kb is just the most common. '''►[[User:Kevzo8|Ҝə]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|υz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|ø8]]''' 12:40, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
::::Cool. Thought, I'd better do it some time.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 12:42, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
:Mine is 20kb and I have trouble filling that...--''[[User:Sher-e-Bengal|Sher]]-e-[[User_talk:Sher-e-Bengal|Bengal]]''- 12:46, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
::lol, awwww. I feel bad. Mine took around 11 months to fill.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 12:47, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
:::I changed my mind. I'll archive mine after my 12th month in Bulbapedia. I'll have trouble on filling 100kb. D= '''►[[User:Kevzo8|Ҝə]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|υz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|ø8]]''' 12:58, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
::::Haha, yep. That sound like a great ideea. My original plan was to archive mine when I reached 70 comments. lol--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 12:59, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
:::::That would take more than a year to be filled. D: That's possible for admins, though. We users floods their talk pages =P '''►[[User:Kevzo8|Ҝə]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|υz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|ø8]]''' 13:05, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
::::::We do. They must get annoyed with everyone asking for requests all the time. Yea, lol. It would take more than a year. So I decided to cut it down a bit.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 13:08, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Anyway, I suggest you put [[Template:TalkArchive|this template]] in your archived page. ^^ '''►[[User:Kevzo8|Ҝə]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|υz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|ø8]]''' 13:19, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Along with [[Template:Protect|this]].--''[[User:Sher-e-Bengal|Sher]]-e-[[User_talk:Sher-e-Bengal|Bengal]]''- 13:23, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::Oh, yes of course. I forget. Its funny. Is it just us three on at this time?--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 13:26, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::..Aside from {{u|DarkSally}}, I suppose. Others might be just lurking around. '''►[[User:Kevzo8|Ҝə]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|υz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|ø8]]''' 13:28, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::We're the main editing force at this time.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 13:31, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
:Lol. The 'pedia isn't active as this time... that's why. Most of the users are asleep. '''►[[User:Kevzo8|Ҝə]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|υz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|ø8]]''' 13:37, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
::I should be too. Its 12:30AM here. :S--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 13:39, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

== So.. ==

..you were sick these past few days. That's sad. How are you feeling now? '''►[[User:Kevzo8|Ҝə]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|υz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|ø8]]''' 12:32, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
:I'm feeling a bit better now. I'm now at computer stage of recovery. I missed you guys, what have I missed?--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 12:35, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
::Hmm.. The broadcast of DP118.. I guess? Anyway, maybe your illness's a result of sleeplessness. D= '''►[[User:Kevzo8|Ҝə]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|υz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|ø8]]''' 12:40, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
:::I am a robot. I never sleep. *yawns* Garrrrrr... Maybe your right. But, I can survive without sleep for a long time actually.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 12:44, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
::::Woo..{{a|insomnia}}? I just wished we had {{m|Skill Swap|switch abilities}}! I {{a|Truant|♥ sleeping}}, though I don't get enough. D= '''►[[User:Kevzo8|Ҝə]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|υz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|ø8]]''' 12:49, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
:::::lol, [[TM44|here]] is something for you. Or perhaps [[Awakening|this]] is better suited to your problem.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 12:53, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
::::::Yep, that would solve it. lol. we're having our final exams, so I'd rather go study. (Though I hate studying at home) Dx '''►[[User:Kevzo8|Ҝə]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|υz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|ø8]]''' 12:56, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Garrrrrrrr... Don't you just hate that. I'm only a quarter of the way through the year, so it looks clear now. But, I still have a tremendous amount of assignments to do.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 13:00, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

== Re: You're doing a great job for a newbie! ==

Lol, thanks! :) {{unsigned|Noname4you}}

== lol ==

I noticed I forgot to sign, lol. I'll try to remember. [[User:Noname4you|Nonam]][[User talk:Noname4you|e4you]] 12:44, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Oh, ok. I got some time on my hands (Spring Break here, lol). Anyway, see you around! [[User:Noname4you|Nonam]][[User talk:Noname4you|e4you]] 13:01, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
:Next time, be early so you don't get stressed too much. D= Who knows, your illness last week might come back as a disease.. '''►[[User:Kevzo8|Ҝə]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|υz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|ø8]]''' 13:08, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
::Grrrr... I'll try. I have an eternity of homework to do. But, I'll make sure I'm on, lol. Gosh, I haven't done much editing to the main space today. lol, I'll try tomorrow. See ya.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 13:11, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

== You didn't do anything wrong ==

It's just that UserTags don't work in the User talk space. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|You enter a poorly lit room...]] 23:01, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
:Oh yeah, Of course. Thanks for the reminder.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 23:03, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

== Rivalry ==

So you're declaring a "friendly" rivalry, eh? Mark this day, Clarky. Mwahaha. Anyway, can I get your AIM or MSN? '''►[[User:Kevzo8|Ҝə]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|υz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|ø8]]''' 13:06, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
:Bring it, fool. Sure, here its Clarkypap@hotmail (for MSN) and clarkypap (for AIM). I'm on now.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 13:11, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
::I'll be on tomorrow..or not. Gotta add you later, one of my nerve cells is about to be broken. See ya! '''►[[User:Kevzo8|Ҝə]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|υz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|ø8]]''' 13:20, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
:::Hate it when that happens. lol. cya then.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 13:28, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
::::Adding me??? O.o--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 12:44, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
:::::Sorry for the delay, I'm still learning. I downloaded AIM a week before, installed after few days, and logged on yesterday. I'm quite unsure if I'll be using this though, since my last visit in Myspace has been..a month. >.> '''►[[User:Kevzo8|Ҝə]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|υz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|ø8]]''' 12:28, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
::::::Lol, that's OK. I'm always trying to get on, but every time I try, the server is dead, but to server is alright every other time. AIM is OK, but I tend to use MSN, but I have AIM just in case, for Bulbapedia purposes. And don't worry, I haven't been on Myspace for ages, Facebook is better. Myspace is for people who can't afford domain names. lol. Anyway, I wont be on Bulbapedia as often as usually. Platinum just came in the mail from America. I can't wait to go play it :D--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 11:13, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

== Welcome ==
Aha so our dear Clarky is here. Sorry I left abruptly yesterday. --'''[[User:Prongs|Prongs]] '''([[User Talk:Prongs|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Prongs|Contributions]])''' 06:28, 24 March 2009 (UTC) This leaves only Kevzo.
:lol, I'm on at the randomed times. I wont be on until later because I have some very social matters to attend to.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 06:57, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

:::What a reply! --'''[[User:Prongs|Prongs]] '''([[User Talk:Prongs|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Prongs|Contributions]])''' 06:59, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
::::Yeah. But I'll be off soon.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 07:01, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
::::: Nothin' special, just a last minute hello....--[[User:Force Fire|FF]]([[Special:Contributions/Force Fire|edits]]•[[User talk:Force Fire|talk]]) 07:03, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
::::::Getting bored Force Fire? --'''[[User:Prongs|Prongs]] '''([[User Talk:Prongs|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Prongs|Contributions]])''' 07:05, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
::::::: Would you like me to give you a favor? come to my TP.... --[[User:Force Fire|FF]]([[Special:Contributions/Force Fire|edits]]•[[User talk:Force Fire|talk]]) 07:06, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
:My name's mentioned; thus I shall answer. Anyway, see my userpage why I am away and will be seen lest often here. Thank you. I suppose you too will be having the same reason, eh? '''►[[User:Kevzo8|Ҝə]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|υz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|ø8]]''' 12:53, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
::Don't worry. I'll be away too, as soon as I get Platinum. I'll add it to my userpage too.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 12:56, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

== You can start helping ==

But don't change information, if there isn't a rarity, don't put on {{rar|Rare}}, and also, if it has templates before the infobox, don't remove them. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 19:53, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
:<nowiki>*</nowiki>headdesk* And more importantly, '''''don't remove the Japanese info''''' The whole update is supposed to be centered around adding it in. If you are removing information like you did on [[Bagon (EX Dragon 49)]], I don't know if I even want you helping. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 19:58, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
::Ahhh... Yep. I errr... didn't know. I was going off another template on another page. O.o--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 21:01, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

==Hey Clarky, are you good with wikicode?==
Do you know if there's a tag for hiding a certain amount of text or a picture? Exactly like some spoiler tags on forums, to hide a large picture until clicked on or some thing? --[[User:Amantis|Amantis]] 22:24, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
:Why, yes there is. Insert <nowiki></nowiki> into an article and replace the ''Text/Picture'' for the text you want to hide. That should do it ;)--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 22:21, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
::Ah I meant more like something people could click on to expand.--[[User:Amantis|Amantis]] 22:24, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
:::Oh, yes... sorry hehe. If you when to add it to a template, add <nowiki>class="expandable"</nowiki> to the template code. Or add <nowiki>{| width="100%" class="expandable"
| </nowiki> ''Text/Picture'' <nowiki>|}</nowiki> and that will let you expand or collapse it.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 22:32, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
::::Wow that was a horrible down time, anyways, its not working in Show Preview, is that the exact code? Or do I need to substitute the |and }s for something?
--[[User:Amantis|Amantis]] 03:57, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
::::: Make sure you put the |} at the end, Like This
::::: <nowiki>{| width="100%" class="expandable"
|

=Like This=
|-
|
Wala!
|}</nowiki>

:::::Should turn out like this:
:::::{| width="100%" class="expandable"
|

Like This
|-
|
Wala!
|}--[[User:Force Fire|FF]]([[Special:Contributions/Force Fire|edits]]•[[User talk:Force Fire|talk]]) 04:03, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
I just cant get it to work this is frustrating! I even copy and pasted your ode directly. Ok, I'm gonna put what I have in the page and press save, can you get it right as I post it to fix it before people see it cause im trying to collapse some material that may be NSFW (text not pictures). Its about mid page just Ctrl + F the word "Nothing"--[[User:Amantis|Amantis]] 05:10, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
:The wrong in the code is that you did not put closing quotation after expandable, like this: "expandable. It should be "expandable". '''►[[User:Kevzo8|Ҝə]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|υz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|ø8]]''' 05:18, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
::Thanks everyone for covering for me. I was away for a bit, so no answers.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 04:36, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

== Project Locations ==

I like what you've done with it. Can I copy what you have done to the page to the Project manga?--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 03:31, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
:Of course you can. No questions asked.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 21:41, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
::Okay. Thank You. :D --[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 22:37, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

== Hi ==

i was wonderin wat projects you run. and also, do you battle people on wi-fi?[[User:Totojo158|totoRulz]] 20:03, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
:I run Project Locations and Project Trainer Class. And I did play Wi-Fi, but my Wi-Fi is dead, so it'll be a long time before I get it back again.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 09:26, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

:: can i join your train class please! and do you know why my userpage was deleted? [[User:Totojo158|totoRulz]] 21:23, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
:::Of course you can. Anyone can, as long as you contribute regularly. No, I don't. I can't seem to find the problem with your userpage. The only edit made by someone else was Shiningpikablu removing a busted usertag.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 21:53, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
:::: ok and i dont know why either but thxs for letting me join![[User:Totojo158|totoRulz]] 17:00, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
:::::That's alright. --[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 22:45, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

== PS200 ==

I was close to finishing until I got a certain edit conflict.--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 23:18, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
:Garrrr... So sorry, edit over it. Mines poor quality article anyway. I just didn't want to see another featured article go to waste.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 23:22, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

== HELPPPPPPPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!!!! ==

IU cant edit my userpage!? [[User:Totojo158|totoRulz]] 17:12, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
:I see no block on you at all. Why can't you edit your userpage. Go to your userpage, (which should be named Totojo158) and click on the "edit the page" tab at the top of the page to edit.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 21:47, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
:: i just cant edit it y dont u try! [[User:Totojo158|totoRulz]] 15:00, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
:::Actually you can. I tried and I suceeded. --'''[[User:Prongs|Prongs]] '''([[User Talk:Prongs|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Prongs|Contributions]])''' 15:05, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
::::I can. But youi don't seem to have a block on yourself. It looks alright. --[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 04:46, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

== Can I join... ==

...{{bp|Project Locations}}? [[User:Alpha Totodile|'''Alpha''']] [[User talk:Alpha Totodile|'''Totodile''']] 11:51, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
:Of course you can. Anytime.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 11:52, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
::Thanks. [[User:Alpha Totodile|'''Alpha''']] [[User talk:Alpha Totodile|'''Totodile''']] 12:09, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

== I made something for you :D ==

Check my {{u|Kevzo8/Sandbox/Infobox location|sandbox}}. :D See the talk page for its result. And look {{u|Kevzo8/Sandbox/Infobox game|here as well}}. Thanks! ^^ '''◄[[User:Kevzo8|Kev]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|zo8]]►''' 05:14, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
:I love it!!!! Thankyou!!! :D But I like my one too. I was thinking of a expandable part on it that shows a gallery of pictures, such as different floors or basements. And I love the Game Infobox as well!!! But, it looks similar tc26's one.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 06:52, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
::Thanks, :) yeah, I based some of game infobox from teacey's with little fixes, but now he updated it, there's nothing I can't say. >.> And, see {{u|Kevzo8/Sandbox/RouteInfo|this one.}} For RouteInfo, matching the Location infobox. =] '''◄[[User:Kevzo8|Kev]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|zo8]]►''' 07:25, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

== Um... ==

Should we have a special thing like moves, pokémon and abilities. So move like [[Ace Trainer]] to <nowiki>[[Ace Trainer (Trainer Class)]]</nowiki> because we did that with [[Pokémon Ranger]], so why have an inconsistency? And maybe we could have a Tc template so instead of <nowiki>[[Ace Trainer (Trainer Class)]]</nowiki>:<nowiki>{{tc|Ace Trainer}}</nowiki>. Please respond ASAP--[[User:Pokemonguy1|Pokemonguy1]] [[User talk:Pokemonguy1|Pikachu]] 22:31, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
:For [[Pokémon Ranger (Trainer class)]] there are a Pokémon game called {{g|Ranger}}, and it shouldn't be mixed with the trainer class. Perhaps not yet for all other trainer class articles, until something else. But having a link template is a great idea, but not yet.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 22:42, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
::They only have a parenthetical class because there more than one thing with the name Pokémon Ranger. There has to be a disambig for them, and that is why they aren't at just Pokémon Ranger. That only applies for things that have more than one meaning to their name. There is only one "Ace Trainer" in Pokémon and it is the Trainer class. Because it is the only thing, it stays at [[Ace Trainer]]. Furthermore, a link template should not be made because of how few instances it has. Other templatescover this, and it can also easily be linked manually. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 22:50, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
:::Yes, I see, all those many many many Rattatas that are forcing me to link to [[Rattata (Pokémon)]] every single time I want to see a little mouse wait a minute *grabs calculator* ... ... '''THERE'S ONLY ONE RATTATA''', so why do we have Rattata pokemon and not just rattata and many others like mankey and linoone, they all have only one and have that (pokemon) thing to not confuse everyone, why not Ace Trainer and the other trainer classes?--[[User:Pokemonguy1|Pokemonguy1]] [[User talk:Pokemonguy1|Pikachu!]] Do you think that [[User:Pokemonguy1/Agatha's Gengar|this page]] is good (please answer on its talk page)? 22:58, 22 April 2009 (UTC)'''
::::But Rattata has a TCG page too, all Pokémon have TCG pages. Trainer Classes on the other hand do not. It was a good idea, no doubt, but there is not need for it.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 23:03, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
:::::Yes, but does [[Rattata]], link to the TCG page ... I'll let you figure that one out......................... Time's up, it doesn't!! It redirects to [[Rattata (Pokémon)]] so why can't Ace trainer do the same. Plus why do we have [[Growl (move)]], I personally know that there is only one growl.--[[User:Pokemonguy1|Pokemonguy1]] [[User talk:Pokemonguy1|Pikachu!]] Do you think that [[User:Pokemonguy1/Agatha's Gengar|this page]] is good (please answer on its talk page)? 23:25, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

==Wi-Fi battle==
You gonna be on Wi-Fi any time soon? Thought we could battle.[[User:Alec9|''alec'''9''''']] [[Special:Contributions/Alec9|*]] [[User talk:Alec9|-]] [[Gallade (Pokémon)|*]] 13:53, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
:Oh, yah. What's your Platinum friend code? Mine's 1591 0564 2847.[[User:Alec9|''alec'''9''''']] [[Special:Contributions/Alec9|*]] [[User talk:Alec9|-]] [[Gallade (Pokémon)|*]] 13:57, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
::My Wi-Fi is a bit dead at the moment. I used to have the USB, but its not working. So, I'll going to a router soon.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 22:42, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
:::That's fine, but I still need your friend code.☺[[User:Alec9|''alec'''9''''']] [[Special:Contributions/Alec9|*]] [[User talk:Alec9|-]] [[Gallade (Pokémon)|*]] 02:35, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
::::I don't know. I need to go on on Wi-Fi to get a connection. But to my great misfortune, my Wi-Fi USB died. :(--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 11:53, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

== Clarky I'm going to kill you. ==

'''''DO NOT EVER USE THE {{template|G}} TEMPLATE TO LINK TO THE VERSIONS. THOSE ARE {{template|Game}}!'''''

{{template|g}} links to the redirects "Pokémon X and Y", not the proper "Pokémon X and Y Versions", and there's no second parameter for the |s to be used for. Keep it straight: {{template|g}} is for Colo/XD/Ranger/anything that doesn't end in Version and '''is a game''', {{template|ga}} is for the game characters like {{ga|Gold}}, and {{template|game}} is for the versions like {{game|Ruby and Sapphire|s}} or {{game|Crystal}}. Also, {{template|game2}} is for trios linked as "Pokémon X, Y, and Z", like {{game2|Red|Blue|Yellow}}. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:45, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
:Ahehe. Sorry, I was on last at night as usual, but really sorry. Its won't happen again. *Backs away slowly*--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 09:28, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
:: *readies the steak knife* — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 10:53, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Oh no, not again.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 05:23, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

== I saw it ==

[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Killer_B&curid=75352&diff=760898&oldid=760895 It was intentional] I always call them "Lin Templates" not Link Templates.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 15:25, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
:Was it? Was it ready? Or can't admit your foolish typo.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 15:28, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
::It was. Trust me.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 15:30, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Hehe ok. What's the gag?--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 15:33, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

==Ash's Charizard==
Well man... do you know how can post an image in the bulbapedia?
... it's different to another "Pedias"...

and sorry for my english, I'm from Brazil and I have been study english for 3 years...

thanks

bye!

[[User:Pedraito|Pedraito]] 18:41, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
:That's OK. Brazilian that's great. Anyway, [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Main_Page click here] to got to the Bulbagarden Archives, and log onto your account (I think its the same as your Bulbapedia account) upload the picture you wanting on the page by clicking upload, and follow the rest.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 18:48, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

== Well Sorry! ==

I thought it was trivia worth at least [[User:Random Chaos|Random]] [[User talk:Random Chaos|Chaos]] [[User:Random Chaos/Sandbox|Was here]][http://chaos-shepherd.deviantart.com/ ☃] 14:04, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
:It's OK. Admins have this thing against similarity in trivia. And discussion pages are for talking about the article and not the subject. That's for the forums.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 14:08, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
Got ya, sorry [[User:Random Chaos|Random]] [[User talk:Random Chaos|Chaos]] [[User:Random Chaos/Sandbox|Was here]][http://chaos-shepherd.deviantart.com/ ☃] 01:06, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

For the signature removal. I realized I did it when I previewed it and I removed it. But when I saved it did that "Can't save" thing so I clicked backwards and saved again without checking. Anyway thanks. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 01:06, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
:That's OK, everyone makes mistakes. I hate that "Can't save thing too. What's up with that?--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 01:09, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

== AIM ==

Got one?--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[User talk:RexRacer|Racer''']] 05:17, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
:I sure do. "{{tt|clarkypap|clarky13 was taken}}"--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 07:19, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

== Signature ==

YOu know wat TTEchinda's signature looks like, yah I want mine like that. SO can you tell me the coding. and second, where can i create user tags? [[User:Totojo158|totoRulz]] 00:31, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
:OK sure... So, like this:

<nowiki>'''[[User:Totojo158|''toto'']][[User talk:Totojo158|Rulz]]'''</nowiki>

But remember that all signatures should be unique and don't try and copy peoples exactly. And you can make your own user tag on your user page. Take mine for example, play areound with it until you like what you see:

<nowiki>{| class="userboxitem" style="border: 1px solid #090173;" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"
! style="background: #ffff99;" | [[Image:Spr_4d_025_m.png‎|50px]]
| style="background: #f9f9f9; color: #000000;" | This user identifies as '''[[gender|male]]'''.
|}</nowiki>

--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 05:29, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
::ok...so do you just put that into my preferences and save it? [[User:Totojo158|totoRulz]] 18:52, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Yep, and make sure you check the raw signature box.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 22:57, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

I need help with makeing i raw signature.I tried but it said something about HTML.So can you help with this.The Aura Wolf always gets its prey 16:53, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

== Re: So, just asking.... ==

[http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/hgss/ The official wbsite] for [[Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver]] website. It's the background for the site. [[User:Pokémon Lover King Mario|Pokémon Lover King Mario]] 09:48, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
:Wait, what? [[User:Pokémon Lover King Mario|Pokémon Lover King Mario]] 09:56, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

== Your Trainer Class template ==

Was there a reason that it was never made an official template? Because I think it could be doable.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 23:00, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
:I'm a little busy at the moment. I'll get around to it soonish.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 22:37, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

== Project merge ==

As you are one of the project leaders involved, I feel obligated to ask before doing this. I think [[Bulbapedia:Project CharacterDex]] and [[Bulbapedia:Project Trainer Class]] should be merged. They are over very similar subjects, and I believe it would be more efficient to have them put together, and modified to encompass more than just game characters. I think CharacterDex is the most appropriate name, because Trainer classes are related articles to the characters. You and PR would consequently become Co-Leaders. Do you have any problems with this? ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 23:09, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
:Yes, I'm sure this would be acceptable, and I agree they are very similar and an appropriate topics. The project wasn't very popular amongst use. I'm sure PR (the good guy that he is) will be happy to share the CharacterDex project. I will merge the Trainer Class Project with the CharacterDex Project very soon, and I will alert the members. AIM me if need be.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 05:27, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

== Helen Clark ==

I thought you were a girl. It just reminded me of Helen Clark--[[User:Minimag|Minimag]] 03:10, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

User talk:Clarky13/2

2009-11-18T03:10:21Z

Minimag: /* Helen Clark */ new section

High Jump Kick (move)

2009-11-03T04:33:16Z

Minimag:

{{MoveInfobox|
n=136 |
name=Hi Jump Kick |
jname=とびひざげり |
jtrans=Jumping Knee Kick |
desc=The foe is attacked with a knee kick from a jump. If it misses, the user is hurt instead. |
gameimage=Hi_Jump_Kick.png |
type=Fighting |
damagecategory=Physical |
basepp=20 |
maxpp=32 |
power=100 |
accuracy=90 |
bdesc=??? |
gen=I |
category=Cool |
appeal=6 |
jam=0 |
cdesc=After this move the user is more easily startled. |
appealsc=3 |
scdesc=A basic performance using a move known by the Pokémon. |
pokefordex=hi+jump+kick |
touches=yes |
protect=yes |
magiccoat=no |
snatch=no |
brightpowder=yes |
kingsrock=yes |
flag7=no |
flag8=no |
sound=no |
target=any |
footnotes= }}
'''Hi Jump Kick''' (Japanese: '''とびひざげり''' ''Jumping Knee Kick'') is a damage-dealing {{type2|Fighting}} [[move]] introduced in [[Generation I]].

==Effect==
===Generations I===
Hi Jump Kick does damage; however, if the attack misses, the user will crash and take damage (1/8 of the damage it would've otherwise dealt). Used against a {{type2|Ghost}}, it always counts as a miss.

If the user of Hi Jump Kick attacks first and faints itself due to crash damage, the target will not attack or be subjected to recurrent damage during that round.

The user loses 1 HP for crashed damage.

===Generation II-III===
If used against a {{type2|Ghost}}, user does not take crash damage.

===Generation IV===
Same as before, but its base power was increased from 85 to 100. The user also takes crash damage if hitting a ghost-type.

==Learnset==
===[[Generation I]]===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{Learnlist|Fighting}}
{{Moveentry|106|Hitmonlee|1|Fighting||48|'''}}
{{Learnlist/footer}}

===[[Generation II]]===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{Learnlist|Fighting}}
{{Moveentry|106|Hitmonlee|1|Fighting||26|'''}}
{{Learnlist/footer}}

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
{{Breedlist|Fighting}}
{{Moveentry|236|Tyrogue|1|Fighting||{{p|Hitmonlee}}, {{p|Hitmonchan}}, {{p|Hitmontop}}|'''}}
{{Learnlist/footer/breeding}}

===[[Generation III]]===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{Learnlist|Fighting}}
{{Moveentry|106|Hitmonlee|1|Fighting||26|'''}}
{{Moveentry|307|Meditite|2|Fighting|Psychic|32|'''||RSE}}
{{Moveentry|307|Meditite|2|Fighting|Psychic|33|'''||FRLG}}
{{Moveentry|308|Medicham|2|Fighting|Psychic|32|'''||RSE}}
{{Moveentry|308|Medicham|2|Fighting|Psychic|33|'''||FRLG}}
{{Learnlist/footer}}

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
{{Breedlist|Fighting}}
{{Moveentry|236|Tyrogue|1|Fighting||{{p|Hitmonlee}}, {{p|Hitmonchan}}, {{p|Hitmontop}}|'''}}
{{Learnlist/footer/breeding}}

===[[Generation IV]]===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{Learnlist|Fighting}}
{{Moveentry|106|Hitmonlee|1|Fighting||29|'''}}
{{Moveentry|307|Meditite|2|Fighting|Psychic|32|'''}}
{{Moveentry|308|Medicham|2|Fighting|Psychic|32|'''}}
{{Learnlist/footer}}

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
{{Breedlist|Fighting}}
{{Moveentry|236|Tyrogue|1|Fighting||{{p|Hitmonlee}}, {{p|Hitmonchan}}, {{p|Hitmontop}}|'''}}
{{Moveentry|447|Riolu|1|Fighting||{{p|Hitmonlee}} {{p|Meditite}}, {{p|Medicham}}|'''}}
{{Learnlist/footer/breeding}}

==In the anime==
{{moveanime|type=fighting|exp=yes|gen=The foe is attacked with a knee kick from a jump. If it misses, the user is hurt instead.|image1=Hitmonlee hijumpkick.jpg|image1p=Hitmonlee|image2=Hlee hi jump k.png|image2p=Making contact|image3=Medicham hi jump kick.jpg|image3p=Medicham}}
{{movep|type=fighting|ms=020|pkmn=Raticate|method=Raticate makes a big leap towards the opponent and kicks on impact.}}
{{movemid|type=fighting|user=Ash's Raticate|startcode=EP016|startname=Battle Aboard the St. Anne|notes=Debut}}
{{movep|type=fighting|ms=106|pkmn=Hitmonlee|method=Hitmonlee leaps into the air and strikes the opponent with its knee. It gets hurt if the attack misses.}}
{{movemid|type=fighting|user=Shiro|user1=Shiro's Hitmonlee|startcode=EP166|startname=Two Hits and a Miss}}
{{movemid|type=fighting|user=Wobbuffet Festival crashers|user1=Wobbuffet Festival crasher's Hitmonlee|startcode=EP173|startname=Wobbu-Palooza!}}
{{movemid|fighting|Gilbert (Hoenn)|user1=Gilbert's Hitmonlee|AG126|Saved by the Beldum!}}
{{movemid|fighting|Master Hamm|user1=Master Hamm's Hitmonlee|AG145|Pasta La Vista!}}
{{movep|fighting|308|Medicham|Medicham leaps into the air and strikes the opponent with its knee.}}
{{movemid|fighting|Grace (Hoenn)|user1=Grace's Medicham|AG050|Pros and Con Artists!}}
{{movebtm|fighting|Greta's Medicham|AG149|Wheel of... Frontier!}}

==In other languages==
* Spanish: '''Patada S. Alta'''
* French: '''Pied Voltige'''
* German: '''Turmkick'''
* Italian: '''Calcinvolo'''
* Portuguese: '''Chute com Pulo Alto'''
* Dutch: '''Hoge sprong schop'''

{{Project MoveDex notice}}

[[de:Turmkick]]
[[es:Patada S. Alta]]
[[fr:Pied Voltige]]
[[ja:とびひざげり]]
[[pt:Hi Jump Kick]]

User talk:Maria-williams

2009-10-30T03:41:25Z

Minimag:

{{User:Maria-williams/Talk template}}
==Welcome==
Welcome to [[Bulbapedia]], Maria-williams!

As a new user, you may wish to learn a few things that will be useful in your editing:
*For a basic overview of wiki code, see [[Help:Editing|this page]].
*Read over the {{bp|style primer}} before making your edits. It is a basic outline of Bulbapedia style. For a more in-depth set of rules, see the {{bp|manual of style}}.
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Thank you, and have a good time editing here! ----'''[[User:Diby|Di]]'''[[User talk:Diby|b]][[Special:Contributions/Diby|y]] 09:24, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

For pointing out those unprotected LTs. If you see any more, let me know or just slap the template on. --[[User:Martonimos|Marton]]([[wp:Chanukah|I'm Jewish]])[[User talk:Martonimos|imos]] 13:12, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
:Sure!----'''[[User:Maria-williams|Maria]][[User_talk:Maria-williams|♥♪♫δ]]'''[[Image:21pz6.jpg|50px]] 13:07, 12 January 2009 (UTC) 13:15, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

== signatures ==

I'm going to have to ask you to take that image out of your signature: our signature policy forbids anyone from using images in their signatures.--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 07:37, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
:Got it!--'''[[User:Maria-williams|Maria]][[User_talk:Maria-williams|♥♪♫δ]]''' 07:40, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
::Wait, I thought the william twins were black![[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((Mock Me]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Edits))]] 02:47, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

== Urdu24 ==

Heya, Maria. I did some "background research" on the Urdu24 article and apparently it was already a page on Wikipedia created on the 2nd February, by the same guy, with the exact same wording. lol--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 12:24, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
:Yeah! That's funny!--[[User:Maria-williams|■ '''m'''aria-]][[user talk:Maria-williams|'''w'''illiams ■]] 12:40, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

== Restoring the comments on my talk page ==

Is there a way to hide them, so they are not instantly visible? [[User:Luke Davis|Luke Davis]] 16:06, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

== {{bp|Project Games}} ==

Hi Maria-williams! You are a member of the Project Games and so, I thought I would ask you if you have any reliable source of information about the [[Spin-off Pokémon games]]. As you are probably aware, they need the most attention of the project members. Your help in expanding these articles would be deeply appreciated. Thank you.--''[[User:Sher-e-Bengal|Sher]]-e-[[User_talk:Sher-e-Bengal|Bengal]]''- 12:54, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

== may i? ==

May I use {{tt|your talk template| with some color changes and such}} on my talk page? [[User:ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[Pikachu (Pokémon)|Pikachu]] 01:58, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

== HELP! ==

Can you tell me how to put usertags on my user page! Don't edit it though, just tell me!--[[User:Minimag|Minimag]] 03:41, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

User talk:Maria-williams

2009-10-30T03:40:51Z

Minimag: /* HELP! */ new section

User:Minimag

2009-10-22T05:08:21Z

Minimag:

My first sprite: [[File:Sceptizard]]

== I HATE AND AM SCARED OF GAYS! ==

Move Deleter

2009-10-16T04:01:17Z

Minimag:

{{CharacterInfobox|
name=Move deleter |
jname=わすれオヤジ|
tmname=Forgetting Man|
image= [[File:MovedeleterFRLG.png|250px]]|
caption= The Move deleter in {{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}}|
hometown=Varies |
region=[[Kanto]], [[Johto]], [[Hoenn]], [[Orre]], [[Sinnoh]] |
game=yes |
generation=[[Generation II|II]], [[Generation III|III]], [[Generation IV|IV]] |
games={{3v2|Gold|Silver|Crystal}}, {{3v2|Ruby|Sapphire|Emerald}}, {{2v2|FireRed|LeafGreen}}, {{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}} |
gender=Male |
footnotes=}}
A '''move deleter''' (Japanese: '''わすれオヤジ''' ''Forgetting Man'') is the opposite of a [[move relearner]]. For no charge, they will make a [[Pokémon]] forget a [[move]] it knows.

This is the only way for a Pokémon to forget [[HM]] moves such as {{m|Cut}} or {{m|Fly}}. In order to delete an HM move, one must first have another Pokémon with that same move in order for it to be deleted. This is done so that a player will not get stuck in an area where an HM move is required to continue. In addition, a Pokémon's move will not be forgotten if it the only move it knows.

The move deleter's service was also used in the [[Generation II|second generation]] games to delete moves exclusive to the second generation so that Pokémon could be traded to [[Generation I]] games via the [[Time Capsule]]. Similarly, a Pokémon in [[Generation III]] must first forget its HM moves before it can be transferred to [[Generation IV]] via [[Pal Park]].

==Locations==
Move deleters can be found in the following locations:
* [[Blackthorn City]] in [[Johto]]
* [[Fuchsia City]] in [[Kanto]] ({{2v2|FireRed|LeafGreen}} Only)
* [[Lilycove City]] in [[Hoenn]]
* [[Mt. Battle]] in [[Orre]]
* [[Canalave City]] in [[Sinnoh]]

==Trivia==
* All of the move deleters are characteristically forgetful, which references their Japanese name.
*If a pokemon (such as salamence or rayquaza who learn fly by level), learns an HM move by level-up, it can not by overwritten by another move, as it is treated if it was taught via HM.
 
{{Project CharacterDex notice}}

[[Category:Pokémon world]]
[[Category:Male characters]]

[[de:Attackenverlerner]]
[[fr:Effaceur de capacités]]
[[ja:わすれオヤジ]]

User:Minimag

2009-10-15T04:01:37Z

Minimag: Created page with 'My first sprite: {{File:Sceptizard}}'

My first sprite: {{File:Sceptizard}}

Fake Pokémon

2009-10-13T03:30:19Z

Minimag:

A '''fake Pokémon''' is any non-official [[Pokémon]]. There are several ways in which one can be created and enter mainstream knowledge.

==Assumptions of real Pokémon==
Sometimes before the release of a new [[generation]] of [[Pokémon games]], a silhouette of a new Pokémon will be released in [[Pokémon Wonderland]], with the picture shown the following month. In that timeframe, sometimes fans will guess what the Pokémon will look like and draw up their assumptions. Others interpret these assumptions as the actual Pokémon.

In other instances, a false name or evolution of a Pokémon may be invented by a fan before any official release. Other fans, again, interpret these assumptions as fact.

Some assumed Pokémon include:
* {{DL|Marill (Pokémon)|Trivia|Pikablu}}, the assumed name of {{p|Marill}}
* Assumed evolutions of types like {{t|Steel}}, {{t|Poison}}, and {{t|Ghost}} for {{p|Eevee}}
* [[Mewthree]], the assumed successor of {{p|Mewtwo}}
* Nidogod, the assumed evolution of {{p|Nidoking}}
* Nidogodess, the assumed evolution of {{p|Nidoqueen}}
* Enpandought, the assumed evolution of {{p|Teddiursa}} with a {{evosto|Moon}}

===Previously false assumptions===
Sometimes fake Pokémon, though based on false assumptions at the time, coincidentally have real Pokémon appear in their place.

* Several versions of an assumed {{type2|Grass}} evolution for {{p|Eevee}} → {{p|Leafeon}}
* Several versions of an assumed {{type2|Ice}} evolution for {{p|Eevee}} → {{p|Glaceon}}
* Porygon3, the assumed evolution of {{p|Porygon2}} → {{p|Porygon-Z}}
* Shibosai, the assumed evolution of {{p|Rhydon}} → {{p|Rhyperior}}
* Magster, the assumed evolution of {{p|Magmar}} → {{p|Magmortar}}

==April Fools Pokémon==
Often for April Fools pranks, Pokémon websites will create fake Pokémon and attempt to pass them off as recently revealed new Pokémon. These often include some of the commonly assumed fake Pokémon.

Some April Fools Pokémon include:

*Korechu, supposedly created for a [[Nintendo DS|DS]] version of [[Hey You, Pikachu!]]

===Other prank Pokémon===
[[Image:Shaymin_Sky.png|frame|right|A fake sprite for the Sky Forme.]]
With the leak of {{p|Shaymin}}'s [[form differences#Shaymin|Sky Forme]] in name, but without images to back the claim up, PurpleKecleon, a well-known Pokémon artist, created a fake version of this alternate form.

Needless to say, many in the fandom jumped to conclusions about its veracity, as the trademark on the terms "Land Forme" and "Sky Forme" had already been verified, while there was heavy evidence that Shaymin would be getting an alternate form. Thus, it became easily the most well-timed prank in the Pokémon fandom.

PurpleKecleon, however, announced the next day in her DeviantArt journal that she had created the fake Sky Forme Shaymin. The real one was leaked some time later due to artwork on drink cups from [[Pokémon Festa]].

==Fanmade Pokémon==
It is not unusual for fans to create their own fake Pokémon for pure amusement, often creating new [[elemental type]]s and [[move]]s as well. These are usually openly displayed, usually on fanart websites or in [[hack games]], and known about as being fake, though sometimes one may be assumed to be a real Pokémon by another fan, depending upon the skill of the artist and the gullibility of the fan. They may also combine two pokemon into one.

== In the anime ==
In ''[[EP020|The Ghost of Maiden's Peak]]'', a {{p|Gastly}}, who had the ability to create illusions that were solid enough to attack people, created a crossbreed of a Blastoise and a Venusaur, calling it a "Venustoise". This is currently the only time a "fake" Pokémon has appeared in the anime.

== See also ==
* [[Mewthree]]
* [[PokéGods]]

==External links==
Several fansites have arose with a focus on fan-made Pokémon.
* [http://pokefactory.pokemology.com The Pokémon Factory]
* [http://www.pokesprite.4t.com Pokesprite]
* [http://hiatudex.wikia.com/wiki/Hiatu_Wiki HiatuWiki]
Sites with list of fake Pokémon:
* [http://www.pokemonmillennium.net/fake.htm Pokémon Millennium]
{{Project Fandom notice}}
[[Category:Fake Pokémon|*]]

[[ja:存在しないポケモンの一覧]]

Metronome (move)

2009-10-09T22:49:41Z

Minimag:

{{MoveInfobox|
n=118 |
name=Metronome |
jname=ゆびをふる |
jtrans=Wag Finger |
desc=The user waggles a finger and stimulates the brain into randomly using nearly any move. |
gameimage=Metronome.PNG |
type=Normal |
damagecategory=Status |
basepp=10 |
maxpp=16 |
power=— |
accuracy=— |
bdesc=??? |
gen=I |
tm1=yes |
tm#1=35 |
mtfl=yes |
mte=yes |
na=no |
category=Cute |
appeal=3 |
jam=0 |
cdesc=Can be repeatedly used without boring the judge. |
appealsc=2 |
scdesc=Makes the order of contestants random in the next turn. |
pokefordex=metronome |
touches=no |
protect=no |
magiccoat=no |
snatch=no |
brightpowder=no |
kingsrock=no |
flag7=yes |
flag8=no |
sound=no |
target=self|
footnotes= }}
'''Metronome''' (Japanese: '''ゆびをふる''' ''Wag Finger'') is a non-damaging {{type2|Normal}} [[move]] introduced in [[Generation I]].

==Effect==
Metronome randomly selects a [[list of moves|move]] and fully executes the attack. An attack called by Metronome in this way counts as the last move used.

If Metronome successfully calls {{m|Hyper Beam}} or a partial trapping move and has 0 PP before the move fully executes, its PP can roll over in the same manner as the move is called. If Metronome calls {{m|Counter}} or {{m|Mirror Coat}}, it will always fail. A Pokémon will be able to use a move that is disabled if called via Metronome.

Because Metronome has normal move [[priority]], a move with higher or lower priority may be executed other than when it normally would. For instance, Metronome may cause {{m|Quick Attack}} to be used after a normal priority move or {{m|Vital Throw}} to be used before a normal priority move.

Metronome will not select itself, any move the user knows, or any of the following moves:

{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background:white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="3" class="sortable"
|- style="background: #{{normal color light}}"
! [[Move|{{color|000000|Move}}]]
! [[Elemental types|{{color|000000|Type}}]]
! [[Damage category|{{color|000000|Cat.}}]]
{{tutormv|Assist|Normal|cat=Status}}
{{tutormv|Chatter|Flying|cat=Special}}
{{tutormv|Copycat|Normal|cat=Status}}
{{tutormv|Counter|Fighting|cat=Physical}}
{{tutormv|Covet|Normal|cat=Physical}}
{{tutormv|Destiny Bond|Ghost|cat=Status}}
{{tutormv|Detect|Fighting|cat=Status}}
{{tutormv|Endure|Normal|cat=Status}}
{{tutormv|Feint|Normal|cat=Physical}}
{{tutormv|Focus Punch|Fighting|cat=Physical}}
{{tutormv|Follow Me|Normal|cat=Status}}
{{tutormv|Helping Hand|Normal|cat=Status}}
{{tutormv|Me First|Normal|cat=Status}}
{{tutormv|Mimic|Normal|cat=Status}}
{{tutormv|Mirror Coat|Psychic|cat=Special}}
{{tutormv|Mirror Move|Flying|cat=Status}}
{{tutormv|Protect|Normal|cat=Status}}
{{tutormv|Sketch|Normal|cat=Status}}
{{tutormv|Sleep Talk|Normal|cat=Status}}
{{tutormv|Snatch|Dark|cat=Status}}
{{tutormv|Struggle|Normal|cat=Physical}}
{{tutormv|Switcheroo|Dark|cat=Status}}
{{tutormv|Thief|Dark|cat=Physical}}
{{tutormv|Trick|Psychic|cat=Status}}
|}

==Learnset==
===Generation I===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{Learnlist|Normal}}
{{moveentry|035|Clefairy|1|Normal||31|}}
{{moveentry|036|Clefable|1|Normal||--|}}
{{moveentry|151|Mew|1|Psychic||30|}}
{{Learnlist/footer}}

====By [[TM35]]====
{{Learnlist/TM|Normal}}
{{Moveentrytm|035|Clefairy|1|Normal||}}
{{Moveentrytm|036|Clefable|1|Normal||}}
{{Moveentrytm|056|Mankey|1|Fighting||}}
{{Moveentrytm|057|Primeape|1|Fighting||}}
{{Moveentrytm|061|Poliwhirl|1|Water||}}
{{Moveentrytm|062|Poliwrath|2|Water|Fighting|}}
{{Moveentrytm|063|Abra|1|Psychic||}}
{{Moveentrytm|064|Kadabra|1|Psychic||}}
{{Moveentrytm|065|Alakazam|1|Psychic||}}
{{Moveentrytm|066|Machop|1|Fighting||}}
{{Moveentrytm|067|Machoke|1|Fighting||}}
{{Moveentrytm|068|Machamp|1|Fighting||}}
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{{Moveentrytm|076|Golem|2|Rock|Ground|}}
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{{Moveentrytm|097|Hypno|1|Psychic||}}
{{Moveentrytm|106|Hitmonlee|1|Fighting||}}
{{Moveentrytm|107|Hitmonchan|1|Fighting||}}
{{Moveentrytm|113|Chansey|1|Normal||}}
{{Moveentrytm|122|Mr. Mime|1|Psychic||}}
{{Moveentrytm|124|Jynx|2|Ice|Psychic|}}
{{Moveentrytm|125|Electabuzz|1|Electric||}}
{{Moveentrytm|126|Magmar|1|Fire||}}
{{Moveentrytm|143|Snorlax|1|Normal||}}
{{Moveentrytm|150|Mewtwo|1|Psychic||}}
{{Moveentrytm|151|Mew|1|Psychic||}}
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===[[Generation II]]===
====By leveling up====
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{{moveentry|035|Clefairy|1|Normal||34|}}
{{moveentry|036|Clefable|1|Normal||--|}}
{{moveentry|151|Mew|1|Psychic||30|}}
{{moveentry|175|Togepi|1|Normal||7|}}
{{moveentry|176|Togetic|2|Normal|Flying|7|}}
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====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
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{{Moveentry|113|Chansey|1|Normal||{{p|Clefairy}}, {{p|Clefable}} {{p|Togetic}} {{p|Snubbull}}, {{p|Granbull}}|}}
{{Moveentry|209|Snubbull|1|Normal||{{p|Clefairy}}, {{p|Clefable}} {{p|Machop}}, {{p|Machoke}}, {{p|Machamp}} {{p|Togetic}}|}}
{{Learnlist/footer/breeding}}

===[[Generation III]]===
====By leveling up====
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{{moveentry|035|Clefairy|1|Normal||34|}}
{{moveentry|036|Clefable|1|Normal||--|}}
{{moveentry|151|Mew|1|Psychic||30|}}
{{moveentry|175|Togepi|1|Normal||6|||RSE}}
{{moveentry|175|Togepi|1|Normal||4|||FRLG}}
{{moveentry|176|Togetic|2|Normal|Flying|6|||RSE}}
{{moveentry|176|Togetic|2|Normal|Flying|--|||FRLG}}
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====By breeding====
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{{Moveentry|113|Chansey|1|Normal||{{p|Clefairy}}, {{p|Clefable}} {{p|Togetic}} {{p|Snubbull}}, {{p|Granbull}}|}}
{{Moveentry|209|Snubbull|1|Normal||{{p|Clefairy}}, {{p|Clefable}} {{p|Togetic}}|}}
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====By [[move tutor]]====
=====In {{game2|FireRed|LeafGreen|Emerald}}=====
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{{Moveentrytm|036|Clefable|1|Normal||}}
{{Moveentrytm|056|Mankey|1|Fighting||}}
{{Moveentrytm|057|Primeape|1|Fighting||}}
{{Moveentrytm|061|Poliwhirl|1|Water||}}
{{Moveentrytm|062|Poliwrath|2|Water|Fighting|}}
{{Moveentrytm|063|Abra|1|Psychic||}}
{{Moveentrytm|064|Kadabra|1|Psychic||}}
{{Moveentrytm|065|Alakazam|1|Psychic||}}
{{Moveentrytm|066|Machop|1|Fighting||}}
{{Moveentrytm|067|Machoke|1|Fighting||}}
{{Moveentrytm|068|Machamp|1|Fighting||}}
{{Moveentrytm|074|Geodude|2|Rock|Ground|}}
{{Moveentrytm|075|Graveler|2|Rock|Ground|}}
{{Moveentrytm|076|Golem|2|Rock|Ground|}}
{{Moveentrytm|094|Gengar|2|Ghost|Poison|}}
{{Moveentrytm|096|Drowzee|1|Psychic||}}
{{Moveentrytm|097|Hypno|1|Psychic||}}
{{Moveentrytm|106|Hitmonlee|1|Fighting||}}
{{Moveentrytm|107|Hitmonchan|1|Fighting|}}
{{Moveentrytm|113|Chansey|1|Normal||}}
{{Moveentrytm|122|Mr. Mime|1|Psychic||}}
{{Moveentrytm|124|Jynx|2|Ice|Psychic|}}
{{Moveentrytm|143|Snorlax|1|Normal||}}
{{Moveentrytm|150|Mewtwo|1|Psychic||}}
{{Moveentrytm|151|Mew|1|Psychic||}}
{{Moveentrytm|173|Cleffa|1|Normal||}}
{{Moveentrytm|175|Togepi|1|Normal||}}
{{Moveentrytm|176|Togetic|2|Normal|Flying|}}
{{Moveentrytm|186|Politoed|1|Water||}}
{{Moveentrytm|190|Aipom|1|Normal||}}
{{Moveentrytm|209|Snubbull|1|Normal||}}
{{Moveentrytm|210|Granbull|1|Normal||}}
{{Moveentrytm|216|Teddiursa|1|Normal||}}
{{Moveentrytm|217|Ursaring|1|Normal||}}
{{Moveentrytm|238|Smoochum|2|Ice|Psychic|}}
{{Moveentrytm|241|Miltank|1|Normal||}}
{{Moveentrytm|242|Blissey|1|Normal||}}
{{Moveentrytm|251|Celebi|2|Psychic|Grass|}}
{{Moveentrytm|272|Ludicolo|2|Water|Grass|}}
{{Moveentrytm|296|Makuhita|1|Fighting||}}
{{Moveentrytm|297|Hariyama|1|Fighting||}}
{{Moveentrytm|302|Sableye|2|Dark|Ghost|}}
{{Moveentrytm|307|Meditite|2|Fighting|Psychic|}}
{{Moveentrytm|308|Medicham|2|Fighting|Psychic|}}
{{Moveentrytm|311|Plusle|1|Electric||}}
{{Moveentrytm|312|Minun|1|Electric||}}
{{Moveentrytm|313|Volbeat|1|Bug||}}
{{Moveentrytm|314|Illumise|1|Bug||}}
{{Moveentrytm|327|Spinda|1|Normal||}}
{{Moveentrytm|352|Kecleon|1|Normal||}}
{{Moveentrytm|354|Banette|1|Ghost||}}
{{Moveentrytm|356|Dusclops|1|Ghost||}}
{{Moveentrytm|385|Jirachi|2|Steel|Psychic|}}
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===[[Generation IV]]===
====By leveling up====
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{{moveentry|035|Clefairy|1|Normal||31|}}
{{moveentry|036|Clefable|1|Normal||--|}}
{{moveentry|151|Mew|1|Psychic||20|}}
{{moveentry|175|Togepi|1|Normal||6|}}
{{moveentry|176|Togetic|2|Normal|Flying|6|}}
{{moveentry|446|Munchlax|1|Normal||--|}}
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====By breeding====
{{Breedlist|Normal}}
{{Moveentry|113|Chansey|1|Normal||{{p|Clefairy}}, {{p|Clefable}} {{p|Togetic}} {{p|Snubbull}}, {{p|Granbull}}|}}
{{Moveentry|173|Cleffa|1|Normal||{{p|Clefairy}}, {{p|Clefable}} {{p|Togetic}}|}}
{{Moveentry|209|Snubbull|1|Normal||{{p|Clefairy}}, {{p|Clefable}} {{p|Togetic}}|}}
{{Moveentry|440|Happiny|1|Normal||{{p|Clefairy}}, {{p|Clefable}} {{p|Togetic}} {{p|Snubbull}}, {{p|Granbull}}|}}
{{Learnlist/footer/breeding}}

==In other games==
===[[Super Smash Bros.]] series===
* If {{p|Clefairy}} is released from a Poké Ball, it will also use Metronome. In [[Super Smash Bros.]], it will copy a move done by another Pokémon. In [[Super Smash Bros. Melee]], it will use either {{m|Explosion}}, {{m|Blizzard}}, or {{m|Fire Spin}}.
* If {{p|Togepi}} is released from a Poké Ball, it will use Metronome. Its effects include: {{m|Night Shade}}, {{m|Magnitude}}, {{m|Blizzard}}, {{m|Sing}}, or {{m|Leech Seed}}.

==In the anime==
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{{movep|type=normal|ms=035|pkmn=Clefairy|method=Clefairy begins to wave its hands back and forth, all the while chanting "fairy" in a musical tone, until its fingertips begin to glow. Clefairy then performs a random move.}}
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Wild Pokémon|user1=Wild Clefairy|startcode=EP006|startname=Clefairy and the Moon Stone|notes=Debut}}
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Whitney|user1=Whitney's Clefairy|startcode=EP158|startname=A Goldenrod Opportunity}}
{{movep|type=normal|ms=096|pkmn=Drowzee|method=Drowzee waves its arms back and forth until its fingertips begin to glow white. Drowzee then performs a random move.}}
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Cassidy|user1=Cassidy's Drowzee|startcode=EP086|startname=Pikachu Re-Volts}}
{{movep|type=normal|ms=175|pkmn=Togepi|method=Togepi begins to wave its arms back and forth until they begin to glow white. Togepi then performs a random move.}}
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Misty's Togepi|startcode=EP086|startname=Pikachu Re-Volts}}
{{movep|type=normal|ms=173|pkmn=Cleffa|method=Cleffa begins to wave its hands back and forth, all the while chanting "Cleffa" in a musical tone, until its fingertips begin to glow. Cleffa then performs a random move.}}
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Wild Pokémon|user1=Wild Cleffa|startcode=AG134|startname=A Real Cleffa-Hanger}}
{{movep|type=normal|ms=036|pkmn=Clefable|method=Clefable begins to wave its hands back and forth, all the while chanting "fable" in a musical tone, until its fingertips begin to glow. Clefable then performs a random move.}}
{{movemid|type=normal|user=Wild Pokémon|user1=Wild Clefable|startcode=AG134|startname=A Real Cleffa-Hanger}}
{{movep|type=normal|ms=446|pkmn=Munchlax|method=Munchlax's fingertips glow white, and its eyes seem trance-like. Munchlax then waves its hands back and forth. Munchlax then performs a random move.}}
{{movebtm|type=normal|user=May's Munchlax|startcode=AG134|startname=A Real Cleffa-Hanger}}

==Trivia==
* Metronome can be learned by at least one Pokémon of each [[elemental type]] except the {{type2|Dragon}}.
*Interestingly, Chatot can not learn metronome, despite having a metronome-shaped tail.

==In other languages==
* French: '''Métronome'''
* German: '''Metronom'''
* Spanish: '''Metrónomo'''
* Italian: '''Metronomo'''
* Norwegian: '''Metronom'''

{{Generation I TMs}}
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[[de:Metronom]]

[[fr:Métronome]]
[[ja:ゆびをふる]]
[[pt:Metronome]]

Talk:Pokémon of myth/Archive 1

2009-10-09T22:17:55Z

Minimag:

{{:User:Shiningpikablu252/PA}}
But... we don't even know if they're a trio... '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 05:20, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

== Wait a tick... ==

Palkia is the Space pokemon 
Dialga is the Time pokemon 
Arceus is the Alpha pokemon 

Wouldn't this technically be the trio; given that, well, aren't Palkia and Dialga technically made of Arceus, or something?

Although, if you took into account that Giratina is related to an "ancient cemetary in another dimension", you could technically consider it:
Arceus ; life ; Alpha
Giratina ; death ; Omega

Beginning and end, so to speak...maybe it could work? Myrmidon 06:58, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
:That'd then make Arceus the master of this trio, too... '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 09:37, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

::Arceus really did a lot for the world of Pokémon, at least in the mythology. Althoughit is unknown how Arceus relates to Giratina, unlike Dialga and Palkia, where it is clearly known that Arceus created the two. Therefore, it is not really certain if Arceus is in fact the master of this trio. [[User:Pokéball|Pok]][[User_talk:Pokéball|é]][[Special:Contributions/Pokéball|ball]] 18:27, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
:::Either way, I still don't think we should name the "dragon trio" off until DP v3 comes out. We knew beforehand that Rayquaza was the third member of the weather trio, but that's mostly because it just fit. Far as I'm concerned, Dialga and Palkia are just a duo, like Ho-Oh and Lugia. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 19:04, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
::::Isn't it obvious that Arceus created Giratina? --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]][[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Shiny Noctowl|Contribs]][[Image:Ani164MS.gif]] 01:45, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
::::Here's proof:
{| border="1" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0"
| align="center" colspan="2" |     || align="center"| [[Image:483.png]] || align="center"| [[Image:484.png]] || align="center"| [[Image:487.png]]
|-
| align="center" rowspan="10"| Attacks (Attacks in '''bold''' do direct damage) || Start || colspan="3" align="center"| '''{{m|DragonBreath}}''' {{m|Scary Face}}
|-
| 10 || '''{{m|Metal Claw}}''' || '''{{m|Water Pulse}}''' || '''{{m|Ominous Wind}}'''
|-
| 20 || colspan="3" align="center"| '''{{m|AncientPower}}'''
|-
| 30 || colspan="3" align="center"| '''{{m|Dragon Claw}}'''
|-
| 40 || '''{{m|Roar of Time}}''' || '''{{m|Spacial Rend}}''' || '''{{m|Shadow Force}}'''
|-
| 50 || colspan="3" align="center"| {{m|Heal Block}}
|-
| 60 || colspan="3" align="center"| '''{{m|Earth Power}}'''
|-
| 70 || colspan="3" align="center"| '''{{m|Slash}}'''
|-
| 80 || '''{{m|Flash Cannon}}''' || '''{{m|Aqua Tail}}''' || '''{{m|Shadow Claw}}'''
|-
| 90 || colspan="3" align="center"| '''{{m|Aura Sphere}}'''
|}
[[Image:Ani164MS.gif]][[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny]][[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Shiny Noctowl|Contribs]][[Image:Ani408MS.gif]][[Image:Ani410MS.gif]] 12:13, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

:I'm totally against this. This is purely fan speculation...[[Image:Ani475MS.gif]] '''[[User:Optimus35|Agent]] [[User:Optimus35/Mission|4]][[User:Optimus35/Emerald|4]][[Gallade (Pokémon)|8]][[User talk:Optimus35|δ]] | [[User:Optimus35/Diamond&Pearl|DP]]''' | [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?limit=50&title=Special%3AContributions&contribs=user&target=Optimus35&namespace=0&year=&month=-1 ☆][[Image:Ani282MS.gif]] 11:51, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
::Seconded. Adding a cleanup tag. Fan speculation and move similarity mean sh*t, tbh.[[User:Dark0805|'''Dark0805''']] ([[User talk:Dark0805|''talk'']]|[[Special:Contributions/Dark0805|''contribs'']]) 17:06, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
Compare to this:
{| border="1" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0"
| align="center" colspan="2" |     || align="center"| [[Image:382.png]] || align="center"| [[Image:383.png]] || align="center"| [[Image:384.png]]
|-
| align="center" rowspan="12"| Attacks (Attacks in '''bold''' do direct damage) || Start || '''{{m|Water Pulse}}''' || '''{{m|Mud Shot}}''' || '''{{m|Twister}}'''
|-
| 5 || colspan="3" align="center"| {{m|Scary Face}}
|-
| 15 || colspan="3" align="center"| '''{{m|AncientPower}}'''
|-
| 20 || '''{{m|Body Slam}}''' || '''{{m|Slash}}''' || '''{{m|Dragon Claw}}'''
|-
| 30 || {{m|Calm Mind}} || {{m|Bulk Up}} || {{m|Dragon Dance}}
|-
| 35 || '''{{m|Ice Beam}}''' || '''{{m|Earthquake}}''' || '''{{m|Crunch}}'''
|-
| 45 || '''{{m|Hydro Pump}}''' || '''{{m|Fire Blast}}''' || '''{{m|Fly}}'''
|-
| 50 || colspan="3" align="center"| {{m|Rest}}
|-
| 60 || '''{{m|Sheer Cold}}''' || '''{{m|Fissure}}''' || '''{{m|Extremespeed}}'''
|-
| 65 || '''{{m|Double-Edge}}''' || '''{{m|Solarbeam}}''' || '''{{m|Hyper Beam}}'''
|-
| 75 || '''{{m|Aqua Tail}}''' || '''{{m|Earth Power}}''' || '''{{m|Dragon Pulse}}'''
|-
| 80 || '''{{m|Water Spout}}''' || '''{{m|Eruption}}''' || '''{{m|Outrage}}'''
|}

Or this:
{| border="1" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0"
| align="center" colspan="2" |     || align="center"| [[Image:377.png]] || align="center"| [[Image:378.png]] || align="center"| [[Image:379.png]]
|-
| align="center" rowspan="12"| Attacks (Attacks in '''bold''' do direct damage) || Start || colspan="3" align="center"| '''{{M|Explosion}}'''
|-
| 9 || '''{{m|Rock Throw}}''' || '''{{m|Icy Wind}}''' || '''{{m|Metal Claw}}'''
|-
| 17 || colspan="3" align="center"| {{m|Curse}}
|-
| 25 || colspan="3" align="center"| '''{{m|Superpower}}'''
|-
| 33 || colspan="3" align="center"| '''{{m|AncientPower}}'''
|-
| 41 || {{m|Iron Defense}}   ||   {{m|Amnesia}} || {{m|Iron Defense}} {{m|Amnesia}}
|-
| 49 || colspan="3" align="center"| '''{{m|Charge Beam}}'''
|-
| 57 || colspan="3" align="center"| {{m|Lock On}}
|-
| 65 || colspan="3" align="center"| '''{{m|Zap Cannon}}'''
|-
| 73 || '''{{m|Stone Edge}}'''   ||   '''{{m|Ice Beam}}''' || '''{{m|Iron Head}}''' '''{{m|Flash Cannon}}'''
|-
| 81 || colspan="3" align="center"| '''{{m|Hammer Arm}}'''
|-
| 89 || colspan="3" align="center"| '''{{m|Hyper Beam}}'''
|}

[[Image:Ani164MS.gif]][[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny]][[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Shiny Noctowl|Contribs]][[Image:Ani408MS.gif]][[Image:Ani410MS.gif]] 12:11, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Well it is possible. There is space and time. What else is there. Giratina is said to live in a world on the reverse side of ours. This is possibly the afterlife. This place may neither be space nor time. If these three pokémon are a trio, then it would mean that this trio would control Space, Time, and the Afterlife, which are the only places where anyone could possibly be. [[User:Pokemaniac102|Pokemaniac102]]

AND THEY ALL SHARE THE SAME STATS ONLY MIXED UP.

So, since it's not official. the Dragon Trio, although is based on a certain amount of canon, is fanon as Pokémon and Nintendo have nto released it officially...'''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|{{tt|Optimatum♏|Optimus35}}]]</sc>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]Hi''' 07:03, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

First, Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina all appear in the 11th movie. Second, WHY CAN'T WE ALL WAIT!!![[Image:Ani471MS.gif]][[User:Pokemaniac102|'''Poke''''''maniac''''''102''']] 17:55, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

:Unless someone can give me ''official'' proof that these three are the trio, and that {{p|Giratina}} is the master and the mascot for the third DP game, I'm putting a delete notice on this page. [[Canon]], people! -[[Image:Spr 3e 186.gif|30px]][[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']][[Image:Spr 3e 186.gif|30px]]

::"May even be true" doesn't cut it here. For instance, it may be true that [[Ash Ketchum]] is a cross-dressing girl! However, I'll hold off on the deletion notice until a sysop okays it. -[[Image:Spr 3e 186.gif|30px]][[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']][[Image:Spr 3e 186.gif|30px]]
:How bout shipping the names are fanon and the whole thing is fanon.[[Image:Ani471MS.gif]][[User:Pokemaniac102|'''Poke''''''maniac''''''102''']][[Image:AniEggMS.gif]] 23:57, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

::::[[Shipping]] '''usually''' has some logical basis, and it's noted that it may not be true. It's '''accepted''' that ships are often false (sorry, shippers!), but stuff like this has no place here unless it's official. -[[Image:Spr 3e 186.gif|30px]][[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']][[Image:Spr 3e 186.gif|30px]]
:::::These three Pokémon being a trio '''has some logical basis,''' and it is noted that it may or may not be true. But there are people who believe that these three pokémon are a trio. Some ships have come true(Rocketshipping in manga) and this '''may''' come true too. There are reason that I believe that these three pokémon are a trio:
*They all have the same stats just mixed up.
*They have similar moves, as seen above.
*They look similar in appearance.
*They all were created at the same time, as said in the article about the History of the Pokémon world.
*I believe that Palkia controls space, Dialga controls time, and Giratina controls the only other thing, the afterlife.
But still, it hasn't been revealed yet. But there is a possibility that, '''if''' a third version comes out, It may be Giratina (or Arceus).[[Image:Ani471MS.gif]][[User:Pokemaniac102|'''Poke''''''maniac''''''102''']][[Image:AniEggMS.gif]] 21:53, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
::The possibility of it being Arceus is zero. If the third game confirms that Giratina is the third part of the chain, then fine, make the article. But until that game comes out, this is nothing but fanwank, and thus does not belong here. This page should be scrapped until this information can be OFFICIALLY confirmed. --[[User:Dual|Dual]] 09:54, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Also, following Crystal's pattern, it could be one of the Lake Trio. '''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|{{tt|Optimatum♏|Optimus35}}]]</sc>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]Hi''' 10:14, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
::::Completely possible. But lets leave this article to rot until V3 comes out.{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}}01:08, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::IF there's a V3. Gen IV has been avoiding most of the rules, such as nearly getting Dark, Psychic and Fighting starters and not all the new Pokémon are in the new dex. '''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|{{tt|Optimatum♏|Optimus35}}]]</sc>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]Hi''' 13:48, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

wait.. if we go by emeralds patten. the '''''MAY''''' be a battle between Palkia and diagla as depicted in the movies and Giratina will quell the battle. {{u|Dakclaw}}

Giratina cannot represent the afterlife, as the Lake trio have been stated to represent spirit. MATTER, on the other hand, is seperate from space and time, yet does not seem to be represented by Giratina. [[User:Noname|Noname]]
:I'm not talking about MATTER, I'm talking about life. What creates life, besides spirit. Space, for things to move. Time, for things to accelerate. And a life after life...{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 01:51, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

::I doubt that Giratina represents life after death, but I do beleive he represents Death itself. He lives in a cemetary and is part ghost. [[User:Noname|Noname]] The afterlife would be a bit of a streach and I doubt they would do that in a pokemon game.

::::::whait you're forgetting something important. If any of you has played Ruby/Sapphire, you'll note that Rayquaza is not considered part of the wheather trio, althought it has similar attacks and base stats, and it is catchable only after the elite 4. it is later given a special role in Emerald AND THEN IT IS CONSIDERED part of it. Maybe it is what will happen with Giratina, and in the third Sinnoh game, a legend will say that Arceus created the three, as it happened in Emerald with Rayquaza who in Ruby/Sapphire is not mentioned anywhere. [[User:Hfc2x|Hfc2x]] 20:57, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Well, until then, this is pure speculation, which does not belong here. We need a template or something that states that it's only speculation, and is not canon as of yet. [[User:Vekter|Vekter]] 17:03, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Maybe Giratina is part of the trio, opposing both Palkia and Dialga. I believe it's something like this: Palkia is space, Dialga is time, and Giratina would be the ''absence'' of space/time. If it's established that Giratina is "a Pokémon from another dimension", it's very easy to understand that the concept of time is different to Giratina. Also, his signature move being "Dark Void" tells us about the concept of space (also different from ours). Anyway, let's wait for the third game. I'm quite sure they'll explore Giratina as opposed to Dialga/Palkia, or maybe some collateral effect of Arceus' creation. --[[User:Rafaelpuff|Rafaelpuff]] 20:04, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

:I agree 100% with you, but Giratina's signature move is {{m|Shadow Force}}. {{m|Dark Void}} is {{p|Darkrai}}'s signature. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 03:27, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

::Since this is speculation anyway, consider this: Giratina's Shadow Force makes it "suddenly vanish", making it completely untouchable. It's possible it does this but exploiting it's absence of space and time, then the next turn it rematerializes intersecting its target, causing the damage as the solid matter (or pseudo-solid in Giratina's case) violently attempts to resolve a physical impossibility.--[[User:Zyphers|Zyphers]] 12:15, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes, sorry, my bad. I've written {{m|Dark Void}} with the ingame animation of {{m|Shadow Force}} in mind. Thanks for the correction. Now, what about the new rumours? About Giratina being the mascot of the third game? If these rumours are confirmed, I guess it's no doubt that there is a Dragon Trio. Also, Serebii.net announced that there'll be a new dual-type form to Arceus - maybe an ancient form of Arceus before he "created the Dragons from itself"? Well, anyway, this is only speculation. But I like Zyphers' theory (about Giratina's Shadow Force) very much. --[[User:Rafaelpuff|Rafaelpuff]] 17:27, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

==Dragon Trio has been officially confirmed==
At last no more speculation. People who hasn't checked Serebii.net do it. A hi-res scan of the Coro coro magazine has leaked and is available [http://serebii.net/platinum/scan.jpg here]. As you can see in the pic, cyrus is standing in front of Dialga, Palkia and the shadow of Giratina. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 21:33, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
:That imaged could be faked or photoshopped......[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|C is for Cookie]] 21:37, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
::Please know that THE WHOLE THING CAN BE FAKE!•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 21:43, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

giratina is on teh box art for pokemon platinum which has been officially announced... [[User:Arutoa|Arutoa]] 20:56, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
:Well then NOW it is conformed.•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 20:58, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
::well then lugia ho-oh and suicune are a trio by that logic - touché! '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|808080|Origami}}{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|FF8000|Guy}}-{{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|808080|T}}-{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|FF8000|C}}-{{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|0080FF|M}}''' 11:36, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Not really. The boxart proves nothing by itself, or Charizard, Blastoise, and Venusaur would be a trio. But with the other evidence shared among the members of this trio (similar typing, all half {{t|Dragon}}; similar moves at the same levels; similar origin for their names ''Dia''mond/Dialga, ''P''e''a''r''l''/Palkia, Pla''tina''/Giratina)... well it pretty much says it all. But ''until we get evidence that Arceus also made Giratina'', which is undoubtedly the case, I would say, the dragon trio technically is unconfirmed. Come September, though, the whole thing will become clear.
:::I hate to be a hardass here, but hey, we're not taking any crap when it comes to anime Pokémon's gender (even for Ash's Charizard, and that's ''honestly ridiculous'' in my mind), so no crap is taken here. This trio is almost official. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:04, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
::::Where is it written that trios ''have'' to have a master? That idea came more from the anime and the [[The Power of One|second movie]] than anything else. Furthermore, should we really be classifying trios of [[version mascot]]s the same way we do the honest-to-[[Arceus (Pokémon)|God]] trios (ie, the birds, the beasts, the golems, the bizzare psychic things)? I've always had a problem with that. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 09:51, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

== No way ==

It's not necessarily part of the trio, as a matter a fact, I think it's the leader-guy! Posted by the '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''10:03 16 May 2008'''''
:Excuse me for asking, but what do you mean by "leader-guy"? As in leader of the "duo", or the duo and Arceus? [[User:Arceausams|Arceausams]] 23:43, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
::I believe he thinks that Giratina is sort of the '''trio master''' of the '''duo'''. But I believe that they all are a trio only with Giratina being the strongest.•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 14:24, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Everybody wait for platinum instead of saying "NUH UH MY THEORY IZ BETR THAN YERZ". [[User:Arceausams|Arceausams]] 23:49, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
:I never said anything. I just believe what I said.'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|P]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|M]][[Dragon trio|102]]''' 00:24, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
::This is the same as the weather trio. They are a trio, but there's one that's seemingly more powerful than the other two. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 00:58, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
:::Thats a good point but it would still be BETTER to JUST WAIT. [[User:Arceausams|Arceausams]] 22:13, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

== images ==

I think the image should go back to the turnback cave 1 the new 1 does not clearly depict Giratina its a silohuette and the others are in Sprite Form.
[[User:Sailor Earth|Sailor Earth]] 20:40, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
:The new image is important, though, as it demonstrates that there is probably some sort of link between the three. I think we should have both images; that way, there'd be one for each of them on their own in DP, and one of them all together in Platinum. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Talk))]] 21:47, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
I agree 100% [[User:Sailor Earth|Sailor Earth]] 21:49, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

== Hey... ==

Look Its a trio with it being Dialga:Time Palkia:Space Giratina: '''VOID''' with arceus being the trio master of spirit and the dragon trio. [[User:Atomix26|Atomix26]] 17:16, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
:That makes perfect sense.[[User:Shadow1337|Shadow1337]] 22:19, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
== Proof ==

Pokémon Platinum serves as proof that this is a trio similar to the weather trio. --[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 20:59, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

:Wouldn't that be like saying Lugia, Ho-Oh and Suicune are a trio? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:58, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
::Nopes. Lugia and Ho-oh are kind of a duo, and Suicune is just a version mascot. Suicune has nothing to do with Lugia and that's why they aren't a trio. In Gen III however, Groudon and Kyogre were a duo, and Rayquaza was a Pokémon that had apparently no relation to the other two (not even in its pokédex description). However in Emerald, it was revealed to be part of the trio, as it's the only one capable of stoping the effects of Kyogre and Groudon. This is exactly the same that's gonna happen with Giratina. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 20:06, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

== I've been thinking about something... ==

I was watching TV one day and they said something about Time, Space and DIMENSION.
That made me think about how each of the dragon trio has a certain control over what they represent
and that Giratina has control over dimension. So wouldn't that make Giratina represent Dimension? [[User:Darkmaster0]] 20:09, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
:True. '''[[User:LugiaFan|''Lugia'']][[User talk:LugiaFan|''Rules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"]]''' 17:05, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
::I was thinking the same. In fact I'd like to suggest renaming the trio to a more specific term like '''Reality trio''', as in time, space and dimension being the three elements of reality, though I prefer to leave it up for debate. --[[User:Kaoz|Kaoz]] 01:20, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
:Maybe it was on doctor who - TARDIS stands for {{p|Dialga|'''Time'''}} And Relative {{p|Giratina|'''Dimension'''}} In {{p|Palkia|'''Space'''}}. '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|ff8000|gami}}''' 12:50, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
::TARDIS Dragons, then? :) --[[User:Kaoz|Kaoz]] 13:33, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
:::LOL'''[[User:Shazaaaam|SHA]][[User_talk:Shazaaaam|ZAA]][[Special:Contributions/Shazaaaam|AAM!]]''' 13:35, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
I think that Giratina represents the NEGATIVE of Dialga and Palkia's respective dimensions, like the negative of an photograph. It's as if the negative were intertwined behind the strings of dimension, thus it having a connection, like an astral plane. [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] 14:20, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Somebody is misinformed here. Space is the combination OF the first three DIMENSION'''S'''. The fourth Dimension is the forward and backward directions of Time. Also, if Giratina resides in the '''Reverse'''World, then surely there should be a fourth - to oppose both Dialga and Palkia! Do I make sense?[[User:Monblazon|Monblazon]] 20:59, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
:Hmm, sorry to bump an old topic, but I believe SPACE is the first three dimensions and TIME is the fourth. A 3D thing can't see anything 4D or higher (that's why we can't 'see' time). Giratina is in the Reverse World, supposedly a separate world from ours. However, could it be that the Reverse World is our world, just that it has more dimensions? And building on that, does that mean that the Reverse World allows travel in time? '''[[User:Optimatum|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''06:46 3 Sep 2008'''''
::Now that you mention it, string theory has those six extra curled-up dimensions, which could be why the Reverse/Torn world is shaped so oddly...
::Although I somehow doubt that the people responsible for coming up with these things pay much attention to theoretical physics. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 20:45, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
:::Especially since those curled up dimensions are very 'small'. And that it is called the 'Reverse' world suggests a form of opposition, as is found with matter and anti-matter, therefore necessitating the need for a fourth related Legendary to maintain the balance of the worlds. i.e. If Giratina is the 'Reverse' equivalent of either Dialga or Palkia, then there is an imbalance - and a Gap to be filled by another Reverse World Pokémon.[[User:Monblazon|Monblazon]] 23:58, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
:::: Also, the First two Seasons of the Diamond and Pearl series are What? Diamond and Pearl, the first two Games of [[Generation IV]]; and Battle DIMENTION, the thing that Giratina controls. [[User:ShinyPikachu|§hin¥£ik@chµ]] 00:34, 10 September 2008 (UTC) P.S. Please join [[User:ShinyPikachu/The User Post Gazette|The User Post Gazette]]
:::::Obviously yo didn't get it... SPACE and TIME '''are''' DIMENTIONS. Giratina doen't control DIMENTION, or it would have been named "Spatial and Temporal Pokémon" instead of "Renegade Pokémon". He is more a negative-space controlling Pokémon. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 20:03, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::So, u r sayin that {{p|Giratina|Giratina}} controls somethin' like a {{wp|blackhole}}? [[User:ShinyPikachu|§#!π¥£!Ψ@Ϛ#µ]] 00:12, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
Not exactly. A black hole is a strong gravitational field around nothing (like a planet or star). Giratina seems to control a negative space, created of anti-matter, but there seems to be an unbalance as it looks to be only the oposite of Palkia. There is an unbalance because in its dimension there is no anti-temporal Pokémon. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 02:57, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

:By jove I got through to somebody at last! The creators have either been very neglectful, or Giratina is not a specific opposite to any other Pokemon. As has been said then if it were the opposite to one of the other Dragons then there must have been a fourth! (Maybe they are saving it for the remakes;-p.)[[User:Monblazon|Monblazon]] 22:48, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
Sorry for opening an old subject; But i think i've figgured it out. The three thinks that make up the univirse are Space(Contoled by Palkia), Time (Controled by Dialga), and Matter (Giratina?) and is there any info in Plt.? [[User:ShinyPikachu|§#!π¥£!Ψ@Ϛ#µ]] 22:53, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
::No, its Dimension isnt it. Anything has dimensions, even an atom, is 0.000000001 something wide. I guess its another way of saying matter. So eventually when they make Gen 4 remakes LOL, in Gen 6, itl be TimeDiamond, SpacePearl, and DimensionPlatinum LOL. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 19:14, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
:::[[Palkia (Pokémon)|Space]] (width, length, and depth) and [[Dialga (Pokémon)|time]] ARE the freaking known dimensionss!!!! stop with that!! Giratina doesn't control dimension, or Arceus had only created him to do both time and space and not Dialga and Palkia!!!! '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 19:47, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Giratina controls an alternate dimension, parallel to the real world. The torn world-where the laws of physics in the real world don't apply. Giratina seems to control what is the reverse reality or the reverse dimension to the real Pokémon world. I don't think that calling it, and by it i mean a future game that probably won't even ever be considered to be produced, "DimensionPlatinum" is sensible. The only reason they had FRLG was because it was impossible to have your Ruby Version trade with your Blue version. Plus, with much better graphics, it was a really cool game to play if you are someone who loves the originals.
Anyway, Giratina does control something: an alternate dimension. Maybe even the dimension opposite of what we call the living world because it is mentioned in on of the Pokédex entries that it hangs around graveyards. Maybe that's what it does when it enters the natural world. --'''[[User:InuMimi|いぬ]][[User talk:InuMimi|みみ]]''' 21:40, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

:Giratina is supposed to balance out the Time and Space. In Platinum, Cyrus says DNA has two strands to balance out each other. D/P is one part while Giratina is the other. But I also think that if it was caught, the world it created/lived in would stay like D/P if they were rather than destroy like Cyrus said. So I'm not sure. It is probably confined to Turnback Cave when it visits the world for its "crimes".{{u|Laxafett}} 19:12, 12 August 2009(UTC)

I figured it out. Arceus created Giratina to be the controller of space-time, but it used it's power's wrongly, so it was banished to the Distortion world, so Arceus created Dialga and Palkia to do what Giratina would have done if he was good--[[User:Minimag|Minimag]] 22:17, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

== New Table ==
I think this resolves everything:

{| border="1" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0"
|Species
| align="center"| [[Image:Spr_4d_483.png]] {{p|Dialga}} || align="center"| [[Image:Spr_4d_484.png]] {{p|Palkia}} || align="center"| [[Image:Spr_4d_487.png]] {{p|Giratina}}
|-
| Type 1
| style="background: #{{Steel color}};" | '''Steel'''-type
| style="background: #{{Water color}};" | '''Water'''-type
| style="background: #{{Ghost color}};" | '''Ghost'''-type
|-
| Type 2
| style="background: #{{Dragon color}};" | '''Dragon'''-type
| style="background: #{{Dragon color}};" | '''Dragon'''-type
| style="background: #{{Dragon color}};" | '''Dragon'''-type
|-
| Level 10
| style="background: #{{Steel color}};" | ''{{m|Metal Claw}}'' '''Steel'''-Type
| style="background: #{{Water color}};" | ''{{m|Water Pulse}}'' '''Water'''-type
| style="background: #{{Ghost color}};" | ''{{m|Ominous Wind}}'' '''Ghost'''-type
|-
| Level 40
| style="background: #{{Dragon color}};" | ''{{m|Roar of Time}}'' '''Dragon'''-type
| style="background: #{{Dragon color}};" | ''{{m|Spacial Rend}}'' '''Dragon'''-type
| style="background: #{{Ghost color}};" | ''{{m|Shadow Force}}'' '''Ghost'''-type
|-
| Level 80
| style="background: #{{Steel color}};" | ''{{m|Flash Cannon}}'' '''Steel'''-type
| style="background: #{{Water color}};" | ''{{m|Aqua Tail}}'' '''Water'''-type
| style="background: #{{Ghost color}};" | ''{{m|Shadow Claw}}'' '''Ghost'''-type
|}

'''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|ff8000|gami}}''' 13:23, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

== Form/Forme ==

Change it. It's in the article. '''[[User:Optimatum|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''06:52 3 Sep 2008'''''

:There's no real need to change something if pretty much 100% it's not going to stick, such as this whole "forme" bullsh*t. Trust me, it'll be "Origin Form" when it's revealed stateside, and that'll be the end of this whole "forme" debacle. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 15:22, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
::Except for Deoxys being Attack Forme on Pokémon.com, you know. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:58, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

== Giratina Sprite ==

Should we use the Platinum Sprite for Giratina? [[User:ShinyPikachu|§hin¥£ik@chµ]] 00:18, 10 September 2008 (UTC) P.S. Please join the [[User:ShinyPikachu/The User Post Gazette|The User Post Gazette]]:D
:As in.. Origin Forme? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:05, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
::Yea. [[User:ShinyPikachu|§#!π¥£!Ψ@Ϛ#µ]] 00:08, 16 September 2008 (UTC) P.S. Please join [[User:ShinyPikachu/The User Post Gazette|The User Post Gazette]].

== Platina Version release, Dragon Trio status Confirmed ==

So, with Platina Version released Japan-side, is it pretty much safe to say that this article no longer needs the "disputed" status? Giratina has had a confirmed role alongside Dialga and Palkia, and the status of the Dragon Trio is confirmed. Is it safe to remove the "disputed" label, or will doing so cause a bomb explosion of hate and flame? I won't do so until I'm granted confirmation people aren't going to flip out on me for doing so. Same goes for the Legendary Pokémon article, which is similarly out of date. [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 17:07, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

*I agree. It's pretty freaking obvious from the start that Giratina goes along with Dialga and Palkia. I know having proof is important but seriously, it was so obvious that Giratina belongs in the dragon trio. That's just how Nintendo does things. If the Pokémon have similar move sets, and in this case, one type shared by all 3, then changes are, they are trios. Plus, with the way game mascots are assigned now (refering to Generation III), it gives you a little more proof. It's almost like people need Nintendo to just come out and say "hey guys, Giratina is in the dragon trio with Dialga and Palkia now so no more speculation, yeah!" for them to truly consider Giratina as a member of the dragon trio. --'''[[User:InuMimi|いぬ]][[User talk:InuMimi|みみ]]''' 21:58, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

==Dimensional Trio?==

Shouldn't it be called the Dimensional Trio? It's like Palkia rules the third dimension, Dialga rules the fourth dimension, and Giratina probably rules the fifth dimension. The place where they all live must be the SIXTH dimension, based on implications from the Darkrai and Shaymin movies, (you know, where all the Unown live) because they have to be in a dimension higher than theirs to warp them, and in the Shaymin movie Dialga and Palkia apparently trashed Giratina's place. (Giratina is probably the oddball in this, because he lives in the fifth dimension to guard it, but he probably moved at the beginning of everything, but Dialga and Palkia don't need to stay in their dimensions to guard it, and there are also Pokemon who guard their dimensions, like Celebi for Dialga, and every Pokemon and human in the universe for Palkia) Because of this, Dialga and Palkia can warp Giratina's dimension (although without having the power to control it) like they did in the Shaymin movie. I say the reason why Dialga and Palkia can't control each other's dimensions is:

1: They don't have the power to do so.
2. Arceus, who lives in the SEVENTH dimension, has made it impossible for them to even WARP each other's dimensions.

I also say the reason that Dialga and Palkia are apparently able to warp GIRATINA'S dimension is that Giratina's dimension is a parallel to the regular one, and you can't control one dimension without warping the parallel dimension in some way.

All this, however, is just my opinion, except for the fact that all this opinion backs up my statement that it should be called the DIMENSIONAL trio. [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]) 17:12, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
:Yes, DIMENSIONAL seems appropiate. I agree =O '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 01:28, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
:Wait, ''Fifth'' dimension? You mean a tesseract?[[User:Shadow1337|Shadow1337]] 22:22, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

== Legendary titans trio? ==

According to [http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Pokemon-Platinum-Nintendo-DS-045496740177/sem/rpsm/oid/232753/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do Circuit City], which released the English name for persons, things, and places in Platinum, the official name semms to be "legendary titans" or "legendary titans trio". Can any sysop ''please'' move the page to it's official, English name? [[User:Pokémon Lover King Mario|Pokémon Lover King Mario]] 14:57, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
: I'd rather we didn't because I don't know how reliable Circuit City is with names. Besides, it may not even be official. --[[User:Jonouchi|Jonouchi]] 15:21, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
:: For whatever it's worth, I looked at Pokebeach (I look at Pokebeach and Serebii as well as Bulbapedia) and they said that Circuit City removed the information. So they might have been told to take it down by Nintendo. [[User:Toastypk|'''''~Toastypk''''']] - [[User_Talk:Toastypk|'''Loom.''']] 03:33, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
:::That's what I'm guessing too. I'm near certain that the lake and dragon trios will get official names soon (legendary pixies and titans), and Brock's gonna be seeing Uxie by DP120. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:23, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

No {{an|May}} saw {{p|Uxie}} --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]
:May saw the lake if I remember right, but didn't mention Uxie... I dunno, I never saw the dub version, but I heard no mention of "Yuxie". '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:34, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Oh, what the heck with it. "Legendary Titans" sounds better. LET'S MOVE IT!!! [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]]) 13:12, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Hmm, i really don't like the idea of calling them "Titans". Based on the old greek mythology and definitions, i always saw the weather trio as more the Titans as compared to the dragon trios god-hood. But then, this is just probably cuz Nintendo is too cowardly to dare use the g-word.[[User:Morgil27|Morgil27]] 21:38, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
:There's been no confirmation of the "titans" name yet, only of the Platinum release date. Note [[Handsome]] and [[Pluto]]. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:13, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
::Ah but everything else from that circuit city page has been confirmed true, and besides, can't we change it anyway? Seriously, ''Titans'' makes more sense than ''Dragons''[[User:Hades666|Hades666]] 15:36, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
:::It ''might'' be official since it's under "Manufacturer's description", but IDK. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 15:44, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

== Spacial Rend ==
It's colored a light blue colored as if it were a water-type move instead of a dragon-type move. was this done on purpose or something? --'''[[User:InuMimi|いぬ]][[User talk:InuMimi|みみ]]''' 01:39, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
:GASP! TEH COLOR MEANS EVERYTHING. Osrry. I severly doubt it, it could have just been colored that way[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
::Yeah, I figure this was done to show the primary type of each of the titans, but to be more align with the rest of the 'pedia can an admin change this? As the page is locked. Thanks. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 09:43, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
:::The coloration (in those three rows, at least) is more to represent the differences between the dragons, rather than the types of their moves. If we changed Spacial Rend (and Roar of Time, for that matter), it'd mess up the aesthetics of the table. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 10:28, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
::::But what about the tables at [[legendary birds]], [[legendary golems]], or [[lake trio]]? Surely displaying the correct type, as all other tables do around the entire wiki, is more important than making three colored lines. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 10:36, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::Ugh. I likes me my pretty lines. If it were up to me, I'd change the other pages... still, it's not. At any rate, I'll change it for now, at least. Maybe I can get my pretty lines back later. (And maybe they'll release Classics Soundwave, and maybe my classes won't be so hard next semester, and...) --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 10:40, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::Thanks. I admit, it did ''look'' better before, but a certain echidna once told me that we strive for accuracy at Bulbapedia. And here accuracy does mean correct typing. This "razz frazzin' [{{tt|adult|in body if not in mind}}]" thanks you for carrying out his "razz frazzin' edit" :D — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 10:44, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::Hey, I'm nineteen, practically venerable. I can call whoever I want a "kid."
::::::Anyway, 's cool. This is a community project, and I'm no community (the voices in my head don't count). Just so long as I got them all. Anything else needs did-ing, come poke my talk page. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 10:49, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

==Greek Gods==
I was thinking, ever notice how the dragons seem to be like Hades, Poseidon, and Zeus of Greek mythology? Like, Palkia/Poseidon is the more substantial and more all-present of the three, Zeus/Dialga is the more ethereal and less reachable, and Giratina/Hades is the one who can't live with the others and guard a dimension which no one wants, and controls the afterlife.[[User:Hades666|Hades666]] 23:13, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Interesting theory, but considering that Zeus was the king of the gods, wouldn't that be Arceus instead of Dialga? I was thinking that same thing with Hades, seeing as Giratina is the Renegade pokemon, like he's defying Arceus and was sent to guard the dimension people would rather avoid... ARGH! I'm an atheist and I was about to go into a God/Satan thing... But in my opinion, just like Rayquaza in Emerald, Giratina will be added to The Original Story and whatever Giratina controls will be mentioned alongside Time and Space... [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 00:27, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
:Do do do. All mythology is basically the same. I could find you three main gods in the Egyptian Religion and Norse Mythology that function the same way you described. Basically, no.[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
::Actually, Arceus would in this case be more similar to the Titan Kronos, in that it is the "father" of the dragon trio/main greek gods.[[User:Hades666|Hades666]] 14:20, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
Very good point, but then, Zeus killed Kronus because Kronus ate his "kids." I can't see anyone killing Arceus- except for certain fans- and Arceus certainly didn't eat the dragon trio. [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 22:04, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
:::[[Movie 12|To the '''Conquering''' of Space-Time]]. If that's not children revolting against a maker... [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 19:54, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
::::No, I'd say it's more of one child beating the crap out of the other two. --[[User:Martonimos|Marton]][[wp:Chanukah|I'm Jewish]][[User talk:Martonimos|imos]] 20:58, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
Look, lets just wait for To the conquering of space-time. Then we ''should'' find out all we need to know about Arceus.[[User:Hades666|Hades666]] 13:59, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
:Dragon Trio has as much to do with the greek gods as the Weather Trio have to do with them. Over.[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
::No.[[User:Hades666|Hades666]] 18:25, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
:::{{tt|O RLY? Kyogre is Posieden. Hades causes earthquakes. So does Groudon. Zeus is God of the Sky, GASP! SO IS RAYQUAZA!|This is ma boomstick!}}[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]] 18:35, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
::::Silly, everyone knows that Hades doesn't cause Earthquakes.[[User:Hades666|Hades666]] 20:12, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::Silly, remember in the myth of how he stole his wife? ( I think Persephone). He caused an earthquake and kidnapped her, the Goddess of Earth (not Gaia) got angry and wouldnt let the earth grow, zeus comprimised, Persephone spends half her time in the Underworld *winter* half her time on earth *summer spring*[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]] 20:35, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
Hey guys, stop this silly discussion once and for all. They are not based on the greek gods or something, so please stop. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 20:54, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::Btw, Posidien causes earthquakes. [[User:ShinyPikachu|'ŚĥîΠŶPî₭₳ĉĥŭ']] 01:31, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::And so can Hades[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((Mock Me]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Edits))]] 02:02, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
::Just to set things straight: Hades does not "cause earthquakes". In the myth of Persephone, all he did was make the ground open. That's not an earthquake. The earth might shake in result of the ground opening, but Poseidon is directly connected to the occurance of earthquakes, whereas for Hades, they are nothing but a side-effect. Not the same thing. He does not deliberately make it shake beneath your feet, so he is not the patron of them (like Poseidon is). Anyone trying to argue, in jest or in seriousness, that Groudon is Hades...bwahaha. Yer tring 2 herd. And that "goddess of the earth" is no such thing. Persephone's mother is Demeter, patron of the harvest. The myth is also slightly deeper than that. Amateurs.

::Triads of gods are a popular theme in mythology. 3 is a magic number of checks and balances. You can take any trio and set them over any set of three gods remotedly connected, and have yourself a barbeque comparing and contracting, pushing and pulling until the pieces fit lopsidedly. There's no sense in noting it. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 18:59, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

== Edit request ==

Could someone edit Another Forme -> Altered Forme, since the page is protected? '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 20:06, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

== Triviatastic curiosity ==

No two members of the trio have the same number of legs. Even considering Giratina's OF this remains true, as Giratina OF has no legs, Palkia has two, Dialga has four and Giratina AF has six. I myself find it odd/curious. --[[User:Kaoz|Kaoz]] 17:03, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
:Do it[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
::Forgot to add, since it's blocked I can't edit it in. Would you mind to add this shallow appreciation? TiA.--[[User:Kaoz|Kaoz]] 15:18, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

== Question ==

"Three beings were born to bind time and space."
It said this on the draco plate, but only Dialga and Palkia have anything to do with time/space. On the plate page, if you click on where it says three beings it navigates too a page about the lake trio. They, however, have nothing to do time and space, only spirit. Perhaps this third being is Giratina? I choose to stay neutral until the theory is proven.--[[User:100xstupid|100xstupid]] 17:34, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
:Eh. The Distorted World Distorts space and is in its own time[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]] 17:45, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
::So you're saying the link should be changed (or at least, that we should consider changing it)? And if so, wouldn't it make more sense to bring this up there? But yeah, I'll take a look. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 18:32, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
:::No, wait. It can't be the Dragon trio, because it mentions "Two beings of time and space set free from the Original One" right before that. So I guess Giratina's just being left out. Those jerks. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 18:34, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
I was looking at the page for heatran and, sorry to stir up this wierd argument even more, but it says something about it being created as an after effect of the creation of Dialga and Palkia. This could mean that the trio is of Dialga, Palkia and Heatran. I'll check their move sets and compare them, but i doubt it.--[[User:100xstupid|100xstupid]] 21:20, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
:Nope, completely different. Btw, I just want to shine my doubt on the theory of Girantina being death and arceus life. It cannot work, because they have such different stats. To keep things in balence, they would need to be equally strong, like the other trios.--[[User:100xstupid|100xstupid]] 21:26, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

== Something i noticed ==

I noticed it says this in the article:
:"Dialga controls time and Palkia controls space, two aspects of the '''four-dimensional universe''' that the Pokémon world, like our own, is a part of. The final member, Giratina, apparently has control over other dimensions like the Distortion World, which may itself be a location with a '''fourth spacial dimension'''. "
Shouldn't that be the fifth dimension, since the Dialga and Palkia control the other four? I would've just changed it myself, but... well... I can't.[[User:Morgil27|Morgil27]] 15:10, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

== Protect ==

Admin, could you please protect this page? We don't need vandals addin False information about HGSS, and such. [[User talk: ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']] 01:00, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
:Considering that we've known about this for ages and no one had bothered to put any information about HGSS on at all (which is true, btw), I'm denying this request. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:40, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Sendoff Spring

2009-10-09T21:36:29Z

Minimag:

{{Infobox location
|image=Sendoff_Spring.png
|type=land
|location_name=Sendoff Spring
|japanese_name=おくりのいずみ
|translated_name=Sendoff Spring
|location=East of [[Route 214]]
|region=Sinnoh
|generation={{gen|IV}}
}}

'''Sendoff Spring''' (Japanese: '''おくりのいずみ''' ''Sendoff Spring'') is an area east of {{rt|214}}, accessible via the [[Spring Path]]. It is known as the "fourth lake of Sinnoh that was kept secret", and is said by some to be where the deceased go to journey to the world beyond. On the shore of the lake in the center of the area is the entrance to [[Turnback Cave]], where the link between the [[Pokémon world]] and the [[Distortion World]] is weaker.

In {{game|Diamond and Pearl|s}}, the spring cannot be visited until after beating the [[Elite Four]] and gaining the [[National Pokédex]]. However, in {{v2|Platinum}}, the player arrives here after escaping the [[Distortion World]] the first time, after catching or defeating {{p|Giratina}}.

==Pokémon==
{{catchableheader|land}}
{{catchtime|All}}
{{catchentry4|055|Golduck|yes|yes|no|Grass|53-54|20%}}
{{catchentry4|358|Chimecho|yes|yes|no|Grass|52, 54|10%}}
{{catchentry4|400|Bibarel|yes|yes|no|Grass|52-54|45%}}
{{catchentry4|400|Bibarel|no|no|yes|Grass|37-38|30%}}
{{catchentry4|433|Chingling|no|no|yes|Grass|37-39|10%}}
{{catchtime|Morning}}
{{catchentry4|075|Graveler|no|no|yes|Grass|37-39|35%}}
{{catchentry4|356|Dusclops|no|no|yes|Grass|40|5%}}
{{catchentry4|397|Staravia|yes|yes|no|Grass|52-54|25%}}
{{catchentry4|397|Staravia|no|no|yes|Grass|38-40|20%}}
{{catchtime|Day}}
{{catchentry4|075|Graveler|no|no|yes|Grass|37-39|35%}}
{{catchentry4|356|Dusclops|no|no|yes|Grass|40|5%}}
{{catchentry4|397|Staravia|yes|yes|no|Grass|52-54|25%}}
{{catchentry4|397|Staravia|no|no|yes|Grass|38-40|20%}}
{{catchtime|Night}}
{{catchentry4|042|Golbat|no|no|yes|Grass|38|10%}}
{{catchentry4|075|Graveler|no|no|yes|Grass|37-39|25%}}
{{catchentry4|164|Noctowl|yes|yes|no|Grass|53-54|20%}}
{{catchentry4|356|Dusclops|no|no|yes|Grass|40|15%}}
{{catchentry4|397|Staravia|yes|yes|no|Grass|52-54|5%}}
{{catchentry4|397|Staravia|no|no|yes|Grass|38-40|10%}}
{{catchtime|Special}}
{{catchentry4|338|Solrock|yes|yes|yes|Dongle|{{tt|52|Diamond and Pearl}}, {{tt|39-40|Platinum}}|8%|R}}
{{catchentry4|337|Lunatone|yes|yes|yes|Dongle|{{tt|52|Diamond and Pearl}}, {{tt|39-40|Platinum}}|8%|S}}
{{catchtime|SurfFish}}
{{catchentry4|129|Magikarp|yes|yes|yes|Fishing ([[Old Rod|Old]])|3-10|100%}}
{{catchentry4|118|Goldeen|yes|yes|yes|Fishing ([[Good Rod|Good]])|10-25|35%}}
{{catchentry4|129|Magikarp|yes|yes|yes|Fishing ([[Good Rod|Good]])|10-25|65%}}
{{catchentry4|119|Seaking|yes|yes|yes|Fishing ([[Super Rod|Super]])|20-50|35%}}
{{catchentry4|130|Gyarados|yes|yes|yes|Fishing ([[Super Rod|Super]])|30-55|65%}}
{{catchentry4|055|Golduck|yes|yes|yes|{{m|Surf}}ing|{{tt|40-55|Diamond and Pearl}}, {{tt|20-40|Platinum}}|100%}}
{{catchablefooter|land}}

==Trivia==
*Despite being known as Sinnoh's fourth lake, the Town Map does not display the lake over the yellow area indicating the route.
**This can be explained as the lake has been 'kept secret', and thus would not appear on any map; however, the lake is on the map prior to the route appearing as a visitable location.
*The first time the player uses the [[Poké Radar]] there, no music plays (music does play on subsequent uses, however).
*There is an odd dock that is above the spring that serves no use whatsoever.
*Due to there being a lake with a cave that holds a legendary pokemon, many have suggested that Giratina may be related to the Lake Trio.
**Also in the town map it says that sendoff spring was the fourth lake of sinnoh, but was kept secret.This may suggest that Giratina is the sub-master of the lake trio.
***The Lake Trio also guides the player through the Distortion world on their first visit

==In other languages==
* '''Spanish:''' ''Fuente Despedida''
* '''German:''' ''Scheidequelle''
* '''Italian:''' ''Fonte Saluto''

{{Stub|Location}}
{{Project Locations notice}}
{{Sinnoh}}
[[Category:Diamond and Pearl locations]]
[[Category:Platinum locations]]

[[de:Scheidequelle]]
[[ja:おくりのいずみ]]

Sendoff Spring

2009-10-09T21:34:34Z

Minimag:

{{Infobox location
|image=Sendoff_Spring.png
|type=land
|location_name=Sendoff Spring
|japanese_name=おくりのいずみ
|translated_name=Sendoff Spring
|location=East of [[Route 214]]
|region=Sinnoh
|generation={{gen|IV}}
}}

'''Sendoff Spring''' (Japanese: '''おくりのいずみ''' ''Sendoff Spring'') is an area east of {{rt|214}}, accessible via the [[Spring Path]]. It is known as the "fourth lake of Sinnoh that was kept secret", and is said by some to be where the deceased go to journey to the world beyond. On the shore of the lake in the center of the area is the entrance to [[Turnback Cave]], where the link between the [[Pokémon world]] and the [[Distortion World]] is weaker.

In {{game|Diamond and Pearl|s}}, the spring cannot be visited until after beating the [[Elite Four]] and gaining the [[National Pokédex]]. However, in {{v2|Platinum}}, the player arrives here after escaping the [[Distortion World]] the first time, after catching or defeating {{p|Giratina}}.

==Pokémon==
{{catchableheader|land}}
{{catchtime|All}}
{{catchentry4|055|Golduck|yes|yes|no|Grass|53-54|20%}}
{{catchentry4|358|Chimecho|yes|yes|no|Grass|52, 54|10%}}
{{catchentry4|400|Bibarel|yes|yes|no|Grass|52-54|45%}}
{{catchentry4|400|Bibarel|no|no|yes|Grass|37-38|30%}}
{{catchentry4|433|Chingling|no|no|yes|Grass|37-39|10%}}
{{catchtime|Morning}}
{{catchentry4|075|Graveler|no|no|yes|Grass|37-39|35%}}
{{catchentry4|356|Dusclops|no|no|yes|Grass|40|5%}}
{{catchentry4|397|Staravia|yes|yes|no|Grass|52-54|25%}}
{{catchentry4|397|Staravia|no|no|yes|Grass|38-40|20%}}
{{catchtime|Day}}
{{catchentry4|075|Graveler|no|no|yes|Grass|37-39|35%}}
{{catchentry4|356|Dusclops|no|no|yes|Grass|40|5%}}
{{catchentry4|397|Staravia|yes|yes|no|Grass|52-54|25%}}
{{catchentry4|397|Staravia|no|no|yes|Grass|38-40|20%}}
{{catchtime|Night}}
{{catchentry4|042|Golbat|no|no|yes|Grass|38|10%}}
{{catchentry4|075|Graveler|no|no|yes|Grass|37-39|25%}}
{{catchentry4|164|Noctowl|yes|yes|no|Grass|53-54|20%}}
{{catchentry4|356|Dusclops|no|no|yes|Grass|40|15%}}
{{catchentry4|397|Staravia|yes|yes|no|Grass|52-54|5%}}
{{catchentry4|397|Staravia|no|no|yes|Grass|38-40|10%}}
{{catchtime|Special}}
{{catchentry4|338|Solrock|yes|yes|yes|Dongle|{{tt|52|Diamond and Pearl}}, {{tt|39-40|Platinum}}|8%|R}}
{{catchentry4|337|Lunatone|yes|yes|yes|Dongle|{{tt|52|Diamond and Pearl}}, {{tt|39-40|Platinum}}|8%|S}}
{{catchtime|SurfFish}}
{{catchentry4|129|Magikarp|yes|yes|yes|Fishing ([[Old Rod|Old]])|3-10|100%}}
{{catchentry4|118|Goldeen|yes|yes|yes|Fishing ([[Good Rod|Good]])|10-25|35%}}
{{catchentry4|129|Magikarp|yes|yes|yes|Fishing ([[Good Rod|Good]])|10-25|65%}}
{{catchentry4|119|Seaking|yes|yes|yes|Fishing ([[Super Rod|Super]])|20-50|35%}}
{{catchentry4|130|Gyarados|yes|yes|yes|Fishing ([[Super Rod|Super]])|30-55|65%}}
{{catchentry4|055|Golduck|yes|yes|yes|{{m|Surf}}ing|{{tt|40-55|Diamond and Pearl}}, {{tt|20-40|Platinum}}|100%}}
{{catchablefooter|land}}

==Trivia==
*Despite being known as Sinnoh's fourth lake, the Town Map does not display the lake over the yellow area indicating the route.
**This can be explained as the lake has been 'kept secret', and thus would not appear on any map; however, the lake is on the map prior to the route appearing as a visitable location.
*The first time the player uses the [[Poké Radar]] there, no music plays (music does play on subsequent uses, however).
*There is an odd dock that is above the spring that serves no use whatsoever.
*Due to there being a lake with a cave that holds a legendary pokemon, many have suggested that Giratina may be related to the Lake Trio.
**Also in the town map it says that sendoff spring was the fourth lake of sinnoh, but was kept secret.

==In other languages==
* '''Spanish:''' ''Fuente Despedida''
* '''German:''' ''Scheidequelle''
* '''Italian:''' ''Fonte Saluto''

{{Stub|Location}}
{{Project Locations notice}}
{{Sinnoh}}
[[Category:Diamond and Pearl locations]]
[[Category:Platinum locations]]

[[de:Scheidequelle]]
[[ja:おくりのいずみ]]

Will

2009-10-07T06:02:29Z

Minimag:

{{CharacterInfobox|
name=Will |
jname=イツキ |
tmname=Itsuki |
image=[[Image:Will.jpg|140px]] |
caption=Art from the VS Series |
gender=Male |
colors=yes|
eyes=Black|
hair=Purple|
hometown=Unknown |
region=[[Kanto]] or [[Johto]] |
relatives=Unknown |
trainer=yes |
trainerclass=[[Elite Four|Elite Trainer]] |
numpkmncaught=Varies with canon |
game=yes |
generation={{Gen|II}}, {{Gen|IV}}|
games=[[Pokémon Gold and Silver Versions|Gold, Silver]], {{v2|Crystal}}, [[Pokémon Stadium 2|Stadium 2]], [[Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions|HeartGold, SoulSilver]] |
leader=no |
elite=yes |
type={{t|Psychic}} |
team=no |
brain=no |
anime=no |
}}

'''Will''' (Japanese: '''イツキ''' ''Itsuki'') is a [[Pokémon master|master]] {{type2|Psychic}} {{pkmn|Trainer}} and member of the [[Johto]] [[Elite Four]].

Will is noted for his peculiar appearance—formal clothes and a mask that covers most of his face.

==In the games==
Will is a member of the [[Elite Four]] in the [[Generation II]] and [[Generation IV]] games. He is the first of the five Trainers one must battle after defeating the eight [[Gym Leader]]s of [[Johto]].

===Pokémon===
This listing is for Will's Pokémon in the video games in which he has appeared.

===={{game2|Gold|Silver|Crystal}}====
{{Party|color={{psychic color}}|headcolor={{psychic color light}}|bordercolor={{psychic color dark}}|sprite=WillGSCsprite.png‎|prize={{pdollar}}4200|class=[[Elite Four]]|name=Will|game={{3v2|Gold|Silver|Crystal}}|location=[[Indigo Plateau]]|pokemon=5|
pokemon1={{Pokémon|gen=2|game=Gold|ndex=178|pokemon=Xatu|gender=male|level=40|type1=Psychic|type2=Flying|move1=Quick Attack|move1type=Normal|move2=Future Sight|move2type=Psychic|move3=Psychic|move3type=Psychic|move4=Confuse Ray|move4type=Ghost}}|
pokemon2={{Pokémon|gen=2|game=Gold|ndex=103|pokemon=Exeggutor|gender=male|level=41|type1=Grass|type2=Psychic|move1=Reflect|move1type=Psychic|move2=Egg Bomb|move2type=Normal|move3=Psychic|move3type=Psychic|move4=Leech Seed|move4type=Grass}}|
pokemon3={{Pokémon|gen=2|game=Gold|ndex=080|pokemon=Slowbro|gender=male|level=41|type1=Water|type2=Psychic|move1=Amnesia|move1type=Psychic|move2=Curse|move2type=???|move3=Psychic|move3type=Psychic|move4=Body Slam|move4type=Normal}}|
pokemon4={{Pokémon|gen=2|game=Gold|ndex=124|pokemon=Jynx|gender=female|level=41|type1=Ice|type2=Psychic|move1=Ice Punch|move1type=Ice|move2=DoubleSlap|move2type=Normal|move3=Psychic|move3type=Psychic|move4=Lovely Kiss|move4type=Normal}}|
pokemon5={{Pokémon|gen=2|game=Gold|ndex=178|pokemon=Xatu|gender=male|level=42|type1=Psychic|type2=Flying|move1=Quick Attack|move1type=Normal|move2=Future Sight|move2type=Psychic|move3=Psychic|move3type=Psychic|move4=Confuse Ray|move4type=Ghost}}
}}

===={{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}====

=====First Battle=====
{{Party|
|color={{psychic color}}
|bordercolor={{psychic color dark}}
|headcolor={{psychic color light}}
|sprite= WillHGSS.gif
|prize={{pdollar}}5040
|class=[[Elite Four]]
|name=Will
|game={{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}
|location=[[Indigo Plateau]]
|pokemon=5

|pokemon1={{Pokémon|gen=4|game=HeartGold and SoulSilver
|pokemon=Xatu
|ndex=178
|level=40
|game=HeartGold and SoulSilver
|type1=Psychic
|type2=Flying
|gender=female
|spritegender=female
|ability=Unknown
|move1=U-Turn
|move1type=Bug
|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Me First
|move2type=Normal
|move2cat=Status
|move3=Psychic
|move3type=Psychic
|move3cat=Special
|move4=Confuse Ray
|move4type=Ghost
|move4cat=Status
}}

|pokemon2={{Pokémon|gen=4|game=HeartGold and SoulSilver
|pokemon=Jynx
|ndex=124
|level=41
|game=HeartGold and SoulSilver
|type1=Ice
|type2=Psychic
|gender=female
|ability=Oblivious
|move1=Psychic
|move1type=Psychic
|move1cat=Special
|move2=Lovely Kiss
|move2type=Normal
|move2cat=Status
|move3=Ice Punch
|move3type=Ice
|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Double Slap
|move4type=Normal
|move4cat=Physical
}}

|pokemon3={{Pokémon|gen=4|game=HeartGold and SoulSilver
|pokemon=Slowbro
|ndex=080
|level=41
|game=HeartGold and SoulSilver
|type1=Water
|type2=Psychic
|gender=female
|held=Unknown
|ability=Unknown
|move1=Curse
|move1type=???
|move1cat=Status
|move2=Amnesia
|move2type=Psychic
|move2cat=Status
|move3=Water Pulse
|move3type=Water
|move3cat=Special
|move4=Psychic
|move4type=Psychic
|move4cat=Special
}}

|pokemon4={{Pokémon|gen=4|game=HeartGold and SoulSilver
|pokemon=Exeggutor
|ndex=103
|level=41
|ability=Chlorophyll
|game=HeartGold and SoulSilver
|type1=Grass
|type2=Psychic
|gender=female
|move1=Reflect
|move1type=Psychic
|move1cat=Status
|move2=Psychic
|move2type=Psychic
|move2cat=Special
|move3=Egg Bomb
|move3type=Normal
|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Hypnosis
|move4type=Psychic
|move4cat=Status
}}

|pokemon5={{Pokémon|gen=4|game=HeartGold and SoulSilver
|pokemon=Xatu
|ndex=178
|level=42
|game=HeartGold and SoulSilver
|type1=Psychic
|type2=Flying
|gender=female
|spritegender=female
|held=Sitrus Berry
|ability=Unknown
|move1=Psychic
|move1type=Psychic
|move1cat=Special
|move2=Confuse Ray
|move2cat=Status
|move2type=Ghost
|move3=Ominous Wind
|move3type=Ghost
|move3cat=Special
|move4=Aerial Ace
|move4type=Flying
|move4cat=Physical
}}
}}

=====Second Battle=====

{{Party|
|color={{psychic color}}
|bordercolor={{psychic color dark}}
|headcolor={{psychic color light}}
|sprite= WillHGSS.gif
|prize={{pdollar}}14880
|class=[[Elite Four]]
|name=Will
|game={{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}
|location=[[Indigo Plateau]]
|pokemon=6
|pokemon1={{Pokémon|gen=4|game=HeartGold and SoulSilver
|pokemon=Bronzong
|ndex=437
|level=58
|game=Platinum
|type1=Steel
|type2=Psychic
|ability=Heatproof
|move1=Payback|move1type=Dark|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Gravity
|move2type=Psychic
|move2cat=Status
|move3=Psychic
|move3type=Psychic
|move3cat=Special
|move4=Reflect
|move4type=Psychic
|move4cat=Status
}}|pokemon2={{Pokémon|gen=4|game=HeartGold and SoulSilver
|pokemon=Jynx
|ndex=124
|level=60
|game=HeartGold
|type1=Ice
|type2=Psychic
|gender=female
|ability=Forewarn
|move1=Blizzard
|move1type=Ice
|move1cat=Special
|move2=Lovely Kiss
|move2type=Normal
|move2cat=Status
|move3=Dream Eater
|move3type=Psychic
|move3cat=Special
|move4=Fake Tears
|move4type=Dark
|move4cat=Status
}}|pokemon3={{Pokémon|gen=4|game=HeartGold and SoulSilver
|pokemon=Grumpig
|ndex=326
|level=59
|game=Platinum
|type1=Psychic
|type2=Psychic
|gender=female
|ability=Own Tempo
|move1=Power Gem
|move1type=Rock
|move1cat=Special
|move2=Signal Beam
|move2type=Bug
|move2cat=Special
|move3=Psychic
|move3type=Psychic
|move3cat=Special
|move4=Confuse Ray
|move4type=Ghost
|move4cat=Status
}}|pokemon4={{Pokémon|gen=4|game=HeartGold and SoulSilver
|pokemon=Slowbro
|ndex=080
|level=60
|game=HeartGold
|type1=Water
|type2=Psychic
|gender=female
|ability=Own Tempo
|move1=Psychic
|move1type=Psychic
|move1cat=Special
|move2=Curse
|move2type=???
|move2cat=Status
|move3=Body Slam
|move3type=Normal
|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Amnesia
|move4type=Psychic
|move4cat=Status
}}|pokemon5={{Pokémon|gen=4|game=HeartGold and SoulSilver
|pokemon=Gardevoir
|ndex=282
|level=61
|game=Platinum
|type1=Psychic
|type2=Psychic
|gender=female
|ability=Trace
|move1=Psychic
|move1type=Psychic
|move1cat=Special
|move2=Charge Beam
|move2type=Electric
|move2cat=Special
|move3=Calm Mind
|move3type=Psychic
|move3cat=Status
|move4=Focus Blast
|move4type=Fighting
|move4cat=Special
}}|pokemon6={{Pokémon|gen=4|game=HeartGold and SoulSilver
|pokemon=Xatu
|ndex=178
|level=62
|game=HeartGold
|type1=Psychic
|type2=Flying
|gender=female
|spritegender=female
|held=Sitrus Berry
|ability=Unknown
|move1=Psychic
|move1type=Psychic
|move1cat=Special
|move2=Confuse Ray
|move2type=Ghost
|move2cat=Status
|move3=Shadow Ball
|move3type=Ghost
|move3cat=Special
|move4=Quick Attack
|move4type=Normal
|move4cat=Physical
}}
}}

====[[Pokémon Stadium 2]]====
=====Round 1=====
{{Party|color={{psychic color}}|headcolor={{psychic color light}}|bordercolor={{psychic color dark}}|sprite=S2_Elite_Four_Will.png|prize=None|class=[[Elite Four]]|name=Will|game=Round 1|location=[[Indigo Plateau]]|pokemon=6|
pokemon1={{Pokémon|gen=2|ndex=178|pokemon=Xatu|gender=male|level=50|type1=Psychic|type2=Flying|held=King's Rock|move1=Psychic|move1type=Psychic|move2=Fly|move2type=Flying|move3=Giga Drain|move3type=Grass|move4=Night Shade|move4type=Ghost}}|
pokemon2={{Pokémon|gen=2|ndex=036|pokemon=Clefable|gender=male|level=50|type1=Normal|held=Bitter Berry|move1=Psychic|move1type=Psychic|move2=Thunder|move2type=Electric|move3=Blizzard|move3type=Ice|move4=Fire Blast|move4type=Fire}}|
pokemon3={{Pokémon|gen=2|ndex=064|pokemon=Kadabra|gender=male|level=50|type1=Psychic|held=Mint Berry|move1=Psychic|move1type=Psychic|move2=ThunderPunch|move2type=Electric|move3=Fire Punch|move3type=Fire|move4=Shadow Ball|move4type=Ghost}}|
pokemon4={{Pokémon|gen=2|ndex=103|pokemon=Exeggutor|gender=male|level=50|type1=Grass|type2=Psychic|held=Burnt Berry|move1=Psychic|move1type=Psychic|move2=Strength|move2type=Normal|move3=Giga Drain|move3type=Grass|move4=Sludge Bomb|move4type=Poison}}|
pokemon5={{Pokémon|gen=2|ndex=124|pokemon=Jynx|gender=female|level=50|type1=Ice|type2=Psychic|held=Ice Berry|move1=Psychic|move1type=Psychic|move2=Ice Punch|move2type=Ice|move3=Body Slam|move3type=Normal|move4=DoubleSlap|move4type=Normal}}|
pokemon6={{Pokémon|gen=2|ndex=203|pokemon=Girafarig|gender=male|level=50|type1=Normal|type2=Psychic|held=PRZCureBerry|move1=Psybeam|move1type=Psychic|move2=Stomp|move2type=Normal|move3=Earthquake|move3type=Ground|move4=Shadow Ball|move4type=Ghost}}
}}

=====Round 2=====
{{Party|color={{psychic color}}|headcolor={{psychic color light}}|bordercolor={{psychic color dark}}|sprite=S2_Elite_Four_Will.png|prize=[[Pokémon Dollar|N/A]]|class=[[Elite Four]]|name=Will|game=Round 2|location=[[Indigo Plateau]]|pokemon=6|
pokemon1={{Pokémon|gen=2|ndex=178|pokemon=Xatu|gender=male|level=50|type1=Psychic||type2=Flying|held=Bright Powder|move1=Psychic|move1type=Psychic|move2=Giga Drain|move2type=Grass|move3=Drill Peck|move3type=Flying|move4=Faint Attack|move4type=Dark}}|
pokemon2={{Pokémon|gen=2|ndex=097|pokemon=Hypno|gender=male|level=50|type1=Psychic|held=Scope Lens|move1=Psychic|move1type=Psychic|move2=Ice Punch|move2type=Ice|move3=Shadow Ball|move3type=Ghost|move4=Submission|move4type=Fighting}}|
pokemon3={{Pokémon|gen=2|ndex=113|pokemon=Chansey|gender=female|level=50|type1=Normal|held=Focus Band|move1=Psychic|move1type=Psychic|move2=Ice Beam|move2type=Ice|move3=Thunderbolt|move3type=Electric|move4=Counter|move4type=Fighting}}|
pokemon4={{Pokémon|gen=2|ndex=125|pokemon=Electabuzz|gender=male|level=50|type1=Electric|held=King's Rock|move1=Psychic|move1type=Psychic|move2=Thunderbolt|move2type=Electric|move3=Ice Punch|move3type=Ice|move4=Rolling Kick|move4type=Fighting}}|
pokemon5={{Pokémon|gen=2|ndex=136|pokemon=Flareon|gender=male|level=50|type1=Fire|held=Quick Claw|move1=Roar|move1type=Normal|move2=Body Slam|move2type=Normal|move3=Fire Blast|move3type=Fire|move4=Shadow Ball|move4type=Ghost}}|
pokemon6={{Pokémon|gen=2|ndex=226|pokemon=Mantine|gender=male|level=50|type1=Water|type2=Flying|held=Miracle Berry|move1=Haze|move1type=Ice|move2=Waterfall|move2type=Water|move3=Wing Attack|move3type=Flying|move4=Ice Beam|move4type=Ice}}
}}

===Quotes===
{| align=right border="1" style="border: 1px solid #000; border-collapse: collapse;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- align=center
| [[Image:WillGSCsprite.png‎ ]]
| [[Image: WillHGSS.gif]]
| [[Image:VSWill.png]]
|- align=center style="font-size: 80%;"
| Will's sprite from [[Generation II]]
| Will's sprite from [[Generation IV]]
| Will's VS sprite from [[Generation IV]]
|}

''"Welcome to Pokémon League, [[Player character|<name>]]. Allow me to introduce myself. I am Will. I have trained all around the world, making my psychic Pokémon powerful. And, at last, I've been accepted into the Elite Four. I can only keep getting better! Losing is not an option!"''

''"I... I can't... believe it..."''

''"Even though I was defeated, I won't change my course. I will continue battling until I stand above all Trainers! Now, [[Player character|<name>]], move on and experience the true ferocity of the Elite Four."''

==In the Pokémon Special manga==
[[Image:Will.PNG|frame|Will]]
Will, along with [[Karen]], {{Special|Blue}}, {{Special|Silver}}, [[Chermaine]], and [[Keane]], is one of the children kidnapped by the [[Mask of Ice]] and raised to be his servants. Will was one of the leaders of the new [[Team Rocket]] formed in Johto. After the defeat of the Mask of Ice, he and Karen met [[Koga]] and [[Bruno]]. Together, the four formed a new Elite Four and have not been heard from since.

===Pokémon===
This listing is of Will's Pokémon in the Pokémon Special manga.

{|border="1" style="border: 1px solid #000; border-collapse: collapse;" width=200px cellspacing="0"
|-
| align=center | [[Image:177.png]] → [[Image:178.png]] {{p|Natu}} → {{p|Xatu}}
|}

==In the TCG==
This listing is of cards mentioning or featuring Will or his Pokémon in the [[Pokémon Trading Card Game]].

{| {{bluetable}}
|- style="background: #DDDDFF;"
!Name
!Type
!Level
!Rarity
!Set
!Set no.
|-
| {{TCG ID|VS|Will's Slowbro|72}} || {{e|Psychic}} || - || {{rar|Common}} || {{TCG|Pokémon VS}} (no English release) || 72/141
|-
| {{TCG ID|VS|Will's Exeggutor|73}} || {{e|Psychic}} || - || {{rar|Common}} || {{TCG|Pokémon VS}} (no English release) || 73/141
|-
| {{TCG ID|VS|Will's Jynx|74}} || {{e|Psychic}} || - || {{rar|Common}} || {{TCG|Pokémon VS}} (no English release) || 74/141
|-
| {{TCG ID|VS|Will's Xatu|75}} || {{e|Psychic}} || - || {{rar|Common}} || {{TCG|Pokémon VS}} (no English release) || 75/141
|-
| {{TCG ID|VS|Will's Espeon|76}} || {{e|Psychic}} || - || {{rar|Common}} || {{TCG|Pokémon VS}} (no English release) || 76/141
|-
| {{TCG ID|VS|Will's Slowking|77}} || {{e|Psychic}} || - || {{rar|Common}} || {{TCG|Pokémon VS}} (no English release) || 77/141
|-
| {{TCG ID|VS|Will's Girafarig|78}} || {{e|Psychic}} || - || {{rar|Common}} || {{TCG|Pokémon VS}} (no English release) || 78/141
|-
| {{TCG ID|VS|Will's TM 01|121}} || - || - || {{rar|Uncommon}} || {{TCG|Pokémon VS}} (no English release) || 121/141
|-
| {{TCG ID|VS|Will's TM 02|122}} || - || - || {{rar|Uncommon}} || {{TCG|Pokémon VS}} (no English release) || 122/141
|}

==Trivia==
*Will's hair falls over the left side of his face, leading to his left eye being whited out in some depictions. This has spurred debate as to whether he has one functioning eye or two. This is rectified in {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}, where his overworld sprite clearly shows two eyes, both obscured by white. His mask thus acts like those of {{wp|Batman}} and {{wp|Robin (comics)|Robin}}.
*Interestingly, his Japanese name Itsuki is shared with a character from {{wp|The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya}}, {{wp|Itsuki Koizumi}}, who is an {{wp|esper}}. The {{type2|Psychic}}, Will's preference, is known as the Esper type in Japan.
* All of Will's Pokémon (excluding {{p|Jynx}}) changed from male in {{3v2|Gold|Silver|Crystal}} to female in {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}.
** Similarly to [[Saturn]] and [[Bugsy]], his Pokémon are the opposite gender of himself despite having a 50-50 gender ratio.
*** This leads many to mistake [[Saturn]], [[Bugsy]] and Will to be females themselves.
**** [[Bugsy]] has a feminine voice in the anime while [[Saturn]] has a feminine voice in the original Japanese version.
*Will is the only member of the [[Indigo League]] [[Elite Four]] that uses only Pokémon that he specialize in; [[Lorelei]] has {{p|Slowbro}}, which is a [[Water (type)|Water]]/[[Psychic (type)|Psychic]] type, not an Ice type; [[Bruno]] has {{p|Onix}} and {{p|Steelix}}, which are [[Rock (type)|Rock]]/[[Ground (type)|Ground]] type and [[Steel (type)|Steel]]/[[Ground (type)|Ground]], respectively. Agatha has {{p|Arbok}}, {{p|Golbat}}, and {{p|Crobat}}, which are all [[Poison (type)|Poison]] type; the latter two which are [[Flying (type)|Flying]]. Lance has {{p|Gyarados}}, {{p|Aerodactyl}}, and {{p|Charizard}}, all of which are [[Flying (type)|Flying]] type, with different sub-types each. Koga has {{p|Forretress}}, which is [[Steel (type)|Steel]]/[[Bug (type)|Bug]] type, not Poison type; Karen has {{p|Vileplume}}, and {{p|Gengar}}, which are not [[Dark (type)|Dark]] type but rather [[Poison (type)|Poison]]/[[Grass (type)|Grass]] type and [[Poison (type)|Poison]]/[[Ghost (type)|Ghost]] type, respectively.

==Names==
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #88a; border-collapse: collapse;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #ccf;"
! Language
! Name
! Origin
|-
|Japanese
|イツキ (''Itsuki'')
|槻 ''Tsuki'', Zelkova serrata.
|-
|English
|Will
|Could derive from "willing" or from "illusionist".
|-
|French
|Clément
|Similar to the word ''mental''.
|-
|German
|Willi
|From ''Wille'' (will).
|-
|Italian
|Pino
|Possible reference to the Italian prefix ''ipno-'' (hypno-).
|-
|Spanish
|Mento
|Similar to the Spanish word ''mente'' (mind).
|-
|Korean
|일목 (''Ilmok'')
|From 一木 ''Itsuki''.
|-
|Chinese (Mandarin)
|一樹/一树 (''Yīshù'')
|From 一樹 ''Itsuki''.
|}
 
{{Team Rocket}}
 
{{Elite Four of Kanto}}
 
{{Project CharacterDex notice}}

[[Category:Elite Four trainers]]
[[Category:Game characters]]
[[Category:Manga characters]]
[[Category:Pokémon Special characters]]
[[Category:Members of Team Rocket]]
[[Category:Gold, Silver and Crystal characters]]
[[Category:Stadium 2 characters]]
[[Category:HeartGold and SoulSilver characters]]
[[Category:Psychic-type trainers]]
[[Category:Male characters]]
[[de:Willi]]

[[fr:Clément]]
[[ja:イツキ]]

Draco Meteor (move)

2009-10-07T05:04:10Z

Minimag:

{{MoveInfobox|
n=434 |
name=Draco Meteor |
jname=りゅうせいぐん |
jtrans=Dragon Meteor Cluster |
desc=Comets are summoned down from the sky. The attack's recoil sharply reduces the user's Sp. Atk stat. |
gameimage=DPDraco meteor.PNG |
type=Dragon |
damagecategory=Special |
basepp=5 |
maxpp=8 |
power=140 |
accuracy=90 |
bdesc= |
target=any|
gen=IV |
mtdp=yes |
mtpt=yes |
mths=yes |
na=no|
category=Smart |
appeal=2 |
jam=0 |
cdesc=+3 if previous Pokémon reaches maximum voltage of a judge |
appealsc=2 |
scdesc=Earn +3 if the Pokémon that just went hit max Voltage. |
pokefordex=draco+meteor |
touches=no |
protect=yes |
magiccoat=no |
snatch=no |
brightpowder=yes |
kingsrock=yes |
flag7=no |
flag8=no |
sound=no |
footnotes= }}
'''Draco Meteor''' (Japanese: '''りゅうせいぐん''' ''Dragon Meteor Cluster'') is a damage-dealing {{type2|Dragon}} [[move]] introduced in [[Generation IV]].

Draco Meteor can only be tutored to Dragon-type Pokémon. This means that Pokémon like {{p|Charizard}} and {{p|Gyarados}}, despite their dragon-like characteristics, cannot be taught the move. Even {{p|Horsea}}, {{p|Seadra}}, {{p|Swablu}}, and {{p|Trapinch}} cannot learn the move, despite being related to Dragon-types. Similar to {{m|Blast Burn}}, {{m|Frenzy Plant}}, and {{m|Hydro Cannon}}, the Pokémon that the move is to be taught to must have a high happiness rating.

==Effect==
Draco Meteor inflicts damage, and lowers the user's Special Attack by two stages afterward.

==In the anime==

<gallery>
Image:Draco_meteor_2.JPG|{{an|Dialga}} using '''Draco Meteor'''
</gallery>

===Pokémon===
'''{{p|Dialga}}'''. A black form appears on top of Dialga's head, and meteors are showered on the opponent.
* Used by {{an|Dialga}} in ''[[The Rise of Darkrai]]''. '''Debut.'''

==Learnset==
===[[Generation IV]]===
====By [[move tutor]]====
=====In {{game5|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}=====
{{Learnlist/TM|Dragon}}
{{Moveentrytm|147|Dratini|1|Dragon||'''}}
{{Moveentrytm|148|Dragonair|1|Dragon||'''}}
{{Moveentrytm|149|Dragonite|2|Dragon|Flying|'''}}
{{Moveentrytm|230|Kingdra|2|Water|Dragon|'''}}
{{Moveentrytm|329|Vibrava|2|Ground|Dragon|'''}}
{{Moveentrytm|330|Flygon|2|Ground|Dragon|'''}}
{{Moveentrytm|334|Altaria|2|Dragon|Flying|'''}}
{{Moveentrytm|371|Bagon|1|Dragon||'''}}
{{Moveentrytm|372|Shelgon|1|Dragon||'''}}
{{Moveentrytm|373|Salamence|2|Dragon|Flying|'''}}
{{Moveentrytm|380|Latias|2|Dragon|Psychic|'''}}
{{Moveentrytm|381|Latios|2|Dragon|Psychic|'''}}
{{Moveentrytm|384|Rayquaza|2|Dragon|Flying|'''}}
{{Moveentrytm|443|Gible|2|Dragon|Ground|'''}}
{{Moveentrytm|444|Gabite|2|Dragon|Ground|'''}}
{{Moveentrytm|445|Garchomp|2|Dragon|Ground|'''}}
{{Moveentrytm|483|Dialga|2|Steel|Dragon|'''}}
{{Moveentrytm|484|Palkia|2|Water|Dragon|'''}}
{{Moveentrytm|487|Giratina|2|Ghost|Dragon|'''}}
{{Moveentrytm|487|Giratina|2|Ghost|Dragon|'''|Origin}}
{{Moveentrytm|493|Arceus|1|Dragon||'''|Dragon}}
{{Learnlist/footer}}

====By {{pkmn2|event}}====
{{Learnlistspecial|Dragon}}
{{Moveentryspecial|385|Jirachi|2|Steel|Psychic|[[Nintendo Zone Jirachi|Nintendo Zone]]}}
{{Learnlist/footer}}

==Trivia==
* {{p|Smeargle}} is one of only three non-Dragon-type Pokémon able to learn Draco Meteor, due to {{m|Sketch}}. The others are {{p|Jirachi}} and {{p|Arceus}} without Draco Plate (it needs to be holding the plate when it learns the move). Coincidentally, both Smeargle and Arceus are {{type2|Normal}}.
* {{p|Mew}}, though repeatedly said on the [[Pokédex]] to be able to learn any move, is not able to learn Draco Meteor because it can only be taught to {{type2|Dragon}} Pokémon.
** Because of this, all Pokémon who can learn Draco Meteor by [[move tutor]] receive [[STAB]] (except {{p|Arceus}} when the {{DL|Plate|Draco Plate}} is removed).
* Draco meteor can be taught for no shards in Platinum.

==In other languages==
* Dutch: '''Draken Meteoor'''
* Spanish: '''Cometa Draco'''
* Italian: '''Dragobolide'''
*German: '''Draco Meteor'''
* Korean: '''용성군''' ''yongsonggun''

{{Overheat}}
{{Project MoveDex notice}}

[[de:Draco Meteor]]
[[fr:Draco Météor]]
[[ja:りゅうせいぐん]]
[[pl:Smoczy Meteor]]
[[pt:Draco Meteor]]

Flygon (Pokémon)

2009-10-06T21:56:54Z

Minimag:

{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Vibrava | next=Cacnea | prevnum=329 | nextnum=331 | type=ground| type2=dragon}}
{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Flygon |
jname=フライゴン |
tmname=Flygon |
pron=<sc>''fly''-gon</sc>|
image=330Flygon.png |
caption=Artwork from R/S/E |
ndex=330 |
hdex=118 |
fdex=159 |
adex=259 |
typen=2 |
type1=Ground |
type2=Dragon |
species=Mystic |
height-ftin=6'07" |
height-m=2.0 |
weight-lbs=180.8 |
weight-kg=82.0 |
abilityn=1 |
ability1=Levitate |
ability2= |
egggroupn=1 |
egggroup1=Bug |
egggroup2= |
eggcycles=20 |
evat=1|
evsp=2|
expyield=197 |
lv100exp=1,059,860 |
gendercode=127|
color=Green |
catchrate=45 |
body=09 |
pokefordex=flygon |
generation=3 |
footnotes=}}
'''Flygon''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''フライゴン''' ''Flygon'') is a dual-type {{2t|Ground|Dragon}} Pokémon.

It [[Evolution|evolves]] from {{p|Vibrava}} starting at [[level]] 45. It is the final form of {{p|Trapinch}}.

==Biology==
===Physiology===
Flygon is a large, light green, insect-like dragon Pokémon. Flygon's tail has several dark green stripes and three green rhombus shapes at the end. Flygon has a pair of green rhombus-shaped wings, toeless hind legs and three-clawed hands. Flygon has red-lensed "goggles" covering its eyes and a pair of green antennae.

====Gender differences====
None.

====Special abilities====
Aside from being able to kick up {{M|sandstorm}}s, Flygon's other ability is {{a|Levitate}}, which allows it to avoid {{t|Ground}} attacks such as {{M|Earthquake}} or {{M|Magnitude}}. Its wings also seem to be "singing" when they are flapped.

===Behavior===
This dragon Pokémon is highly adapted to life in the desert. It's also known as "the spirit of the desert" due to the sound its wings make in sandstorms. When it flaps its wings, it inadvertently kicks up a cloud of dust, which serves to protect it from potential enemies. Its eyes are covered with thick lenses, which prevent particles of sand from disturbing its vision. The flapping wings create a very unusual "singing" sound. Because this sound is usually heard in the presence of sandstorms, it was thought that this Pokémon was the spirit of the desert.

===Habitat===
[[Image:Roughterrain.gif|right|frame|{{DL|List of Pokémon by habitat|Rough-terrain Pokémon}}]]
Although Flygon are hard to find in the wild, they are often seen in deserts punished by harsh sandstorms, often caused by themselves. Most Flygon belong to trainers, mainly from evolved {{p|Vibrava}}, either caught in the wild or previously evolved from a {{p|Trapinch}}.

===Diet===
{{main|Pokémon food}}

==In the anime==
[[Image:Drew's_Flygon.jpg|thumb|right|Drew's Flygon]]
Flygon first appears in a flashback of a [[Pokémon Coordinator]] in ''[[AG060|Delcatty Got Your Tongue?]]''.

Another Flygon was in ''[[Jirachi: Wish Maker]]''. It helped save {{an|Jirachi}} from [[Butler]].

[[Drew]]'s Flygon made its debut in ''[[AG123|Rhapsody in Drew]]''.

A Flygon also appeared in ''[[Giratina and the Sky Warrior]]''.

==In the TCG==
{{main|Flygon (TCG)}}

==Game data==
===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex
|type=ground
|type2=dragon
|gen=3
|rubydex=Flygon is nicknamed "the elemental spirit of the desert." Because its flapping wings whip up a cloud of sand, this Pokémon is always enveloped in a {{M|sandstorm}} while flying.
|sapphiredex=Flygon whips up a sandstorm by flapping its wings. The wings create a series of notes that sound like singing. Because the "singing" is the only thing that can be heard in a {{M|sandstorm}}, this Pokémon is said to be the desert spirit.
|emeralddex=The flapping of its wings sounds like singing. To prevent detection by enemies, it hides itself by flapping up a cloud of desert sand.
|firereddex=It hides itself by kicking up desert sand with its wings. Red covers shield its eyes from sand.
|leafgreendex=It hides itself by kicking up desert sand with its wings. Red covers shield its eyes from sand.
|diamonddex=It whips up sandstorms with powerful flaps of its wings. It is known as "The Desert Spirit."
|pearldex=It whips up sandstorms with powerful flaps of its wings. It is known as "The Desert Spirit."
|platinumdex=It whips up sandstorms with powerful flaps of its wings. It is known as "The Desert Spirit."
}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability|
type=ground |
type2=dragon |
gen=3 |
frlgex=rse|
rsarea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Vibrava}} |
earea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Vibrava}} |
coloarea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Vibrava}} |
xdarea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Vibrava}} |
dparea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Vibrava}} |
palarea=Mountain |
}}

====In side games====
{{SidegameAvail
|type=Ground
|type2=Dragon
|pinballrs=Evolve from {{p|Vibrava}}
|trozei=Endless Level 5 Forever Level 54 Pair Trozei Mr. Who's Den
|md=Evolve from {{p|Vibrava}}
|md2=[[Mystifying Forest]] (B1-B13) [[Mystery Jungle]] (B1-B29) [[Mt. Mistral]] (1F-19F)
|ranger=[[Jungle Relic]] (during mission)
|ranger2=[[Haruba Desert]]
}}

===Stats===
====Base stats====
{{BaseStats|
type=ground |
type2=dragon |
HP=80 |
Attack=100 |
Defense=80 |
SpAtk=80 |
SpDef=80 |
Speed=100 }}

====Pokéthlon stats====
{{Pokéthlon
|Speed=4
|Power=5
|Technique=4
|Stamina=2
|Jump=5
}}

===Type effectiveness===
{{DP Type effectiveness|
type1=ground|
type2=dragon|

Normal= 100 |
Fighting=100 |
Flying= 100 |
Poison= 50 |
Ground= 0 |
Rock= 50 |
Bug= 100 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 50 |
Water= 100 |
Grass= 100 |
Electric= 0 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 400 |
Dragon= 200 |
Dark= 100 |

notes=yes|
levitate=yes|
newground=1}}

===Learnset===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{movelist|ground|dragon|4|3|Flygon}}
{{mlentry4|Start|SonicBoom|Normal|Special|—|90|20|Cool|3}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Sand-Attack|Ground|Status|—|100|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Faint Attack|Dark|Physical|60|—|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Sand Tomb|Ground|Physical|15|70|15|Smart|0||'''}}
{{mlentry4|9|Sand-Attack|Ground|Status|—|100|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|17|Faint Attack|Dark|Physical|60|—|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|25|Sand Tomb|Ground|Physical|15|70|15|Smart|0||'''}}
{{mlentry4|33|Supersonic|Normal|Status|—|55|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|35|DragonBreath|Dragon|Special|60|100|20|Cool|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|41|Screech|Normal|Status|—|85|40|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|45|Dragon Claw|Dragon|Physical|80|100|15|Cool|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|49|Sandstorm|Rock|Status|—|—|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|57|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|5|Cool|2}}
{{movelist/note|3|ground|dragon}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{movelisttm|ground|dragon|4|3|Flygon}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM02]]|Dragon Claw|Dragon|Physical|80|100|15|Cool|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM06]]|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|85|10|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM10]]|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|—|100|15|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM11]]|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|—|—|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM15]]|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|5|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM17]]|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM19]]|Giga Drain|Grass|Special|60|100|10|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM21]]|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM22]]|SolarBeam|Grass|Special|120|100|10|Cool|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM23]]|Iron Tail|Steel|Physical|100|75|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM26]]|Earthquake|Ground|Physical|100|100|10|Tough|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM27]]|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM28]]|Dig|Ground|Physical|80|100|10|Smart|1||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM32]]|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM35]]|Flamethrower|Fire|Special|95|100|15|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM37]]|Sandstorm|Rock|Status|—|—|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM38]]|Fire Blast|Fire|Special|120|85|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM39]]|Rock Tomb|Rock|Physical|50|80|10|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM40]]|Aerial Ace|Flying|Physical|60|—|20|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM42]]|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM43]]|Secret Power|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM44]]|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM45]]|Attract|Normal|Status|—|100|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM47]]|Steel Wing|Steel|Physical|70|90|25|Cool|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM51]]|Roost|Flying|Status|—|—|10|Cool|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM58]]|Endure|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM59]]|Dragon Pulse|Dragon|Special|90|100|10|Smart|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM62]]|Silver Wind|Bug|Special|60|100|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM68]]|Giga Impact|Normal|Physical|150|90|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM71]]|Stone Edge|Rock|Physical|100|80|5|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM78]]|Captivate|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM80]]|Rock Slide|Rock|Physical|75|90|10|Tough|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM82]]|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM83]]|Natural Gift|Normal|Physical|—|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM87]]|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM89]]|U-turn|Bug|Physical|70|100|20|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM90]]|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM02]]|Fly|Flying|Physical|90|95|15|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM04]]|Strength|Normal|Physical|80|100|15|Tough|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM05]]|Defog|Flying|Status|—|—|15|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM06]]|Rock Smash|Fighting|Physical|40|100|15|Tough|2}}
{{movelist/note|4|ground|dragon}}

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
{{eggmoves|ground|dragon|4|3|Flygon}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Paras}}, {{p|Parasect}} {{p|Pinsir}} {{p|Heracross}} {{p|Pineco}}, {{p|Forretress}}|Flail|Normal|Physical|—|100|15|Cute|2|*}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Beedrill}} {{p|Scyther}}, {{p|Scizor}} {{p|Pinsir}} {{p|Kricketune}}|Focus Energy|Normal|Status|—|—|30|Cool|0}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Scyther}}, {{p|Scizor}} {{p|Gligar}}, {{p|Gliscor}} {{p|Ninjask}} {{p|Kricketune}}|Fury Cutter|Bug|Physical|10|95|20|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Butterfree}} {{p|Venomoth}} {{p|Beautifly}} {{p|Dustox}} {{p|Masquerain}} {{p|Mothim}} {{p|Combee}}|Gust|Flying|Special|40|100|35|Smart|3}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Surskit}}, {{p|Masquerain}}|Mud Shot|Ground|Special|55|95|15|Tough|2|*|'''|HGSS}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Scyther}}, {{p|Scizor}} {{p|Yanma}}, {{p|Yanmega}} {{p|Gligar}}, {{p|Gliscor}} {{p|Surskit}}, {{p|Masquerain}} {{p|Volbeat}}|Quick Attack|Normal|Physical|40|100|30|Cool|2}}
{{eggmoves/note|3|ground|dragon}}

====By [[Move tutor|tutoring]]====
{{tutor|ground|dragon|4b|3|Flygon}}
{{mtentry4|Air Cutter|Flying|Special|55|95|25|Cool|3|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Draco Meteor|Dragon|Special|140|90|5|Smart|2||'''|yes|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Earth Power|Ground|Special|90|100|10|Smart|2||'''|no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Fire Punch|Fire|Physical|75|100|15|Beauty|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Fury Cutter|Bug|Physical|10|95|20|Cool|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Headbutt|Normal|Physical|70|100|15|Tough|3|||no|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Heat Wave|Fire|Special|100|90|10|Beauty|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Mud-Slap|Ground|Special|20|100|10|Cute|3||'''|no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Ominous Wind|Ghost|Special|60|100|5|Smart|0|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Outrage|Dragon|Physical|120|100|15|Cool|2||'''|no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Snore|Normal|Special|40|100|15|Cool|3|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Swift|Normal|Special|60|—|20|Cool|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|ThunderPunch|Electric|Physical|75|100|15|Cool|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Twister|Dragon|Special|40|100|20|Cool|3||'''|no|yes|yes}}
{{tutor/note|4|ground|dragon}}

====Special moves====

===Side game data===
{{Side game|
type=ground |
ndex=330 |
PinRSevo=yes |
Trozei=yes |
rarity=Rare |
Dungeon=yes |
body=1 |
rate=Evolve |
area=Furnace Desert |
P1= If the going gets too rough, I duck and hide in a sandstorm! |
P2= Oops, they've taken my HP down by half already... |
P3= This won't do... I don't have the energy to flap my wings... |
PL= Yes! Leveled up! Desert sandstorms will help me! |
Partner=no |
Ranger=yes |
typeG= Dragon |
typeA= Ground |
field= Gust |
fieldpower= 3 |
loop=6 |
browser= Flygon flies almost faster than the eye can follow. It whips up gust of wind. |
Dungeon2=yes |
body2=1 |
rate2=-12% |
iq=D |
Ranger2=yes |
typeG2= Dragon |
typeA2= Dragon |
field2= Cut |
field2power= 4 |
browser2= It flies around while letting loose supersonic waves and shock waves. |
}}

===Evolution===
{{evobox
|family=Normal
|sprite1=328
|name1=Trapinch
|type1-1=Ground
|evotype1=Level
|level1=35
|sprite2=329
|name2=Vibrava
|type1-2=Ground
|type2-2=Dragon
|evotype2=Level
|level2=45
|sprite3=330
|name3=Flygon
|type1-3=Ground
|type2-3=Dragon}}

===Sprites===
{{Sprite|
type=ground|
type2=dragon|
gen=3|
gender=none|
ndex=330|
name=Flygon|
}}

==Trivia==
* Flygon and its pre-evolution are the only non-legendary Pokémon that are not {{type2|Flying}} and can learn {{m|Fly}}, with the exception of {{p|Smeargle}}.
:* Flygon and Vibrava are also the only Pokémon that can learn Fly that can also know {{m|Dig}} without aid of a TM (other than {{p|Smeargle}}).
* As of {{v2|Platinum}}, Flygon and {{p|Vibrava}} are also the only non-legendary Pokémon that are not {{type2|Fire}} or {{type2|Flying}} and can learn {{m|Heat Wave}}, with the exception of {{p|Smeargle}}.
* Flygon shares the same [[species]] name with {{p|Xatu}}. They are both known as Mystic Pokémon.
* Flygon is commonly mistaken as a psuedo-legendary pokemon, due to the fact that it is seen as incredibly strong in the anime, is the final stage in a 3 part evolutionary line and is a dragon type, considered by many to be the best type in the games. It is not because it does not have base stat total of 600, does not have attack as it's highest stat(although it is tied for highest with speed), and is considered to be the weakest non-legendary Dragon type, as Kingdra, which is not mistaken as a psuedo-legendary, is seen more often in competitive play.

===Origin===
Flygon is based on the winged, adult stage of the {{wp|antlion}}, also called "sand dragon".

====Name origin====
Flygon's name is a combination of ''{{wp|fly}}'' and ''dragon'' or a rearrangement of ''{{wp|dragonfly}}''.

==In other languages==
*[[List of German Pokémon names|German]]: Libelldra - A combination of ''Libelle'' (dragonfly) and ''Drache'' (dragon).
*[[List of French Pokémon names|French]]: Libegon - From ''libellule'' (dragonfly) and ''dragon''.
*[[List of Korean Pokémon names|Korean]]: 플라이곤 ''Flygon''

==External links==

{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Vibrava | next=Cacnea | prevnum=329 | nextnum=331 | type=ground| type2=dragon}}
{{Project Pokédex notice}}

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[[es:Flygon]]
[[fr:Libégon]]
[[ja:フライゴン]]
[[pt:Flygon (pokémon)]]

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{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Flygon |
jname=フライゴン |
tmname=Flygon |
pron=<sc>''fly''-gon</sc>|
image=330Flygon.png |
caption=Artwork from R/S/E |
ndex=330 |
hdex=118 |
fdex=159 |
adex=259 |
typen=2 |
type1=Ground |
type2=Dragon |
species=Mystic |
height-ftin=6'07" |
height-m=2.0 |
weight-lbs=180.8 |
weight-kg=82.0 |
abilityn=1 |
ability1=Levitate |
ability2= |
egggroupn=1 |
egggroup1=Bug |
egggroup2= |
eggcycles=20 |
evat=1|
evsp=2|
expyield=197 |
lv100exp=1,059,860 |
gendercode=127|
color=Green |
catchrate=45 |
body=09 |
pokefordex=flygon |
generation=3 |
footnotes=}}
'''Flygon''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''フライゴン''' ''Flygon'') is a dual-type {{2t|Ground|Dragon}} Pokémon.

It [[Evolution|evolves]] from {{p|Vibrava}} starting at [[level]] 45. It is the final form of {{p|Trapinch}}.

==Biology==
===Physiology===
Flygon is a large, light green, insect-like dragon Pokémon. Flygon's tail has several dark green stripes and three green rhombus shapes at the end. Flygon has a pair of green rhombus-shaped wings, toeless hind legs and three-clawed hands. Flygon has red-lensed "goggles" covering its eyes and a pair of green antennae.

====Gender differences====
None.

====Special abilities====
Aside from being able to kick up {{M|sandstorm}}s, Flygon's other ability is {{a|Levitate}}, which allows it to avoid {{t|Ground}} attacks such as {{M|Earthquake}} or {{M|Magnitude}}. Its wings also seem to be "singing" when they are flapped.

===Behavior===
This dragon Pokémon is highly adapted to life in the desert. It's also known as "the spirit of the desert" due to the sound its wings make in sandstorms. When it flaps its wings, it inadvertently kicks up a cloud of dust, which serves to protect it from potential enemies. Its eyes are covered with thick lenses, which prevent particles of sand from disturbing its vision. The flapping wings create a very unusual "singing" sound. Because this sound is usually heard in the presence of sandstorms, it was thought that this Pokémon was the spirit of the desert.

===Habitat===
[[Image:Roughterrain.gif|right|frame|{{DL|List of Pokémon by habitat|Rough-terrain Pokémon}}]]
Although Flygon are hard to find in the wild, they are often seen in deserts punished by harsh sandstorms, often caused by themselves. Most Flygon belong to trainers, mainly from evolved {{p|Vibrava}}, either caught in the wild or previously evolved from a {{p|Trapinch}}.

===Diet===
{{main|Pokémon food}}

==In the anime==
[[Image:Drew's_Flygon.jpg|thumb|right|Drew's Flygon]]
Flygon first appears in a flashback of a [[Pokémon Coordinator]] in ''[[AG060|Delcatty Got Your Tongue?]]''.

Another Flygon was in ''[[Jirachi: Wish Maker]]''. It helped save {{an|Jirachi}} from [[Butler]].

[[Drew]]'s Flygon made its debut in ''[[AG123|Rhapsody in Drew]]''.

A Flygon also appeared in ''[[Giratina and the Sky Warrior]]''.

==In the TCG==
{{main|Flygon (TCG)}}

==Game data==
===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex
|type=ground
|type2=dragon
|gen=3
|rubydex=Flygon is nicknamed "the elemental spirit of the desert." Because its flapping wings whip up a cloud of sand, this Pokémon is always enveloped in a {{M|sandstorm}} while flying.
|sapphiredex=Flygon whips up a sandstorm by flapping its wings. The wings create a series of notes that sound like singing. Because the "singing" is the only thing that can be heard in a {{M|sandstorm}}, this Pokémon is said to be the desert spirit.
|emeralddex=The flapping of its wings sounds like singing. To prevent detection by enemies, it hides itself by flapping up a cloud of desert sand.
|firereddex=It hides itself by kicking up desert sand with its wings. Red covers shield its eyes from sand.
|leafgreendex=It hides itself by kicking up desert sand with its wings. Red covers shield its eyes from sand.
|diamonddex=It whips up sandstorms with powerful flaps of its wings. It is known as "The Desert Spirit."
|pearldex=It whips up sandstorms with powerful flaps of its wings. It is known as "The Desert Spirit."
|platinumdex=It whips up sandstorms with powerful flaps of its wings. It is known as "The Desert Spirit."
}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability|
type=ground |
type2=dragon |
gen=3 |
frlgex=rse|
rsarea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Vibrava}} |
earea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Vibrava}} |
coloarea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Vibrava}} |
xdarea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Vibrava}} |
dparea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Vibrava}} |
palarea=Mountain |
}}

====In side games====
{{SidegameAvail
|type=Ground
|type2=Dragon
|pinballrs=Evolve from {{p|Vibrava}}
|trozei=Endless Level 5 Forever Level 54 Pair Trozei Mr. Who's Den
|md=Evolve from {{p|Vibrava}}
|md2=[[Mystifying Forest]] (B1-B13) [[Mystery Jungle]] (B1-B29) [[Mt. Mistral]] (1F-19F)
|ranger=[[Jungle Relic]] (during mission)
|ranger2=[[Haruba Desert]]
}}

===Stats===
====Base stats====
{{BaseStats|
type=ground |
type2=dragon |
HP=80 |
Attack=100 |
Defense=80 |
SpAtk=80 |
SpDef=80 |
Speed=100 }}

====Pokéthlon stats====
{{Pokéthlon
|Speed=4
|Power=5
|Technique=4
|Stamina=2
|Jump=5
}}

===Type effectiveness===
{{DP Type effectiveness|
type1=ground|
type2=dragon|

Normal= 100 |
Fighting=100 |
Flying= 100 |
Poison= 50 |
Ground= 0 |
Rock= 50 |
Bug= 100 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 50 |
Water= 100 |
Grass= 100 |
Electric= 0 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 400 |
Dragon= 200 |
Dark= 100 |

notes=yes|
levitate=yes|
newground=1}}

===Learnset===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{movelist|ground|dragon|4|3|Flygon}}
{{mlentry4|Start|SonicBoom|Normal|Special|—|90|20|Cool|3}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Sand-Attack|Ground|Status|—|100|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Faint Attack|Dark|Physical|60|—|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Sand Tomb|Ground|Physical|15|70|15|Smart|0||'''}}
{{mlentry4|9|Sand-Attack|Ground|Status|—|100|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|17|Faint Attack|Dark|Physical|60|—|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|25|Sand Tomb|Ground|Physical|15|70|15|Smart|0||'''}}
{{mlentry4|33|Supersonic|Normal|Status|—|55|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|35|DragonBreath|Dragon|Special|60|100|20|Cool|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|41|Screech|Normal|Status|—|85|40|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|45|Dragon Claw|Dragon|Physical|80|100|15|Cool|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|49|Sandstorm|Rock|Status|—|—|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|57|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|5|Cool|2}}
{{movelist/note|3|ground|dragon}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{movelisttm|ground|dragon|4|3|Flygon}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM02]]|Dragon Claw|Dragon|Physical|80|100|15|Cool|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM06]]|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|85|10|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM10]]|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|—|100|15|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM11]]|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|—|—|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM15]]|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|5|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM17]]|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM19]]|Giga Drain|Grass|Special|60|100|10|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM21]]|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM22]]|SolarBeam|Grass|Special|120|100|10|Cool|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM23]]|Iron Tail|Steel|Physical|100|75|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM26]]|Earthquake|Ground|Physical|100|100|10|Tough|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM27]]|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM28]]|Dig|Ground|Physical|80|100|10|Smart|1||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM32]]|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM35]]|Flamethrower|Fire|Special|95|100|15|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM37]]|Sandstorm|Rock|Status|—|—|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM38]]|Fire Blast|Fire|Special|120|85|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM39]]|Rock Tomb|Rock|Physical|50|80|10|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM40]]|Aerial Ace|Flying|Physical|60|—|20|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM42]]|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM43]]|Secret Power|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM44]]|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM45]]|Attract|Normal|Status|—|100|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM47]]|Steel Wing|Steel|Physical|70|90|25|Cool|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM51]]|Roost|Flying|Status|—|—|10|Cool|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM58]]|Endure|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM59]]|Dragon Pulse|Dragon|Special|90|100|10|Smart|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM62]]|Silver Wind|Bug|Special|60|100|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM68]]|Giga Impact|Normal|Physical|150|90|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM71]]|Stone Edge|Rock|Physical|100|80|5|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM78]]|Captivate|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM80]]|Rock Slide|Rock|Physical|75|90|10|Tough|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM82]]|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM83]]|Natural Gift|Normal|Physical|—|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM87]]|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM89]]|U-turn|Bug|Physical|70|100|20|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM90]]|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM02]]|Fly|Flying|Physical|90|95|15|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM04]]|Strength|Normal|Physical|80|100|15|Tough|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM05]]|Defog|Flying|Status|—|—|15|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM06]]|Rock Smash|Fighting|Physical|40|100|15|Tough|2}}
{{movelist/note|4|ground|dragon}}

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
{{eggmoves|ground|dragon|4|3|Flygon}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Paras}}, {{p|Parasect}} {{p|Pinsir}} {{p|Heracross}} {{p|Pineco}}, {{p|Forretress}}|Flail|Normal|Physical|—|100|15|Cute|2|*}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Beedrill}} {{p|Scyther}}, {{p|Scizor}} {{p|Pinsir}} {{p|Kricketune}}|Focus Energy|Normal|Status|—|—|30|Cool|0}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Scyther}}, {{p|Scizor}} {{p|Gligar}}, {{p|Gliscor}} {{p|Ninjask}} {{p|Kricketune}}|Fury Cutter|Bug|Physical|10|95|20|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Butterfree}} {{p|Venomoth}} {{p|Beautifly}} {{p|Dustox}} {{p|Masquerain}} {{p|Mothim}} {{p|Combee}}|Gust|Flying|Special|40|100|35|Smart|3}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Surskit}}, {{p|Masquerain}}|Mud Shot|Ground|Special|55|95|15|Tough|2|*|'''|HGSS}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Scyther}}, {{p|Scizor}} {{p|Yanma}}, {{p|Yanmega}} {{p|Gligar}}, {{p|Gliscor}} {{p|Surskit}}, {{p|Masquerain}} {{p|Volbeat}}|Quick Attack|Normal|Physical|40|100|30|Cool|2}}
{{eggmoves/note|3|ground|dragon}}

====By [[Move tutor|tutoring]]====
{{tutor|ground|dragon|4b|3|Flygon}}
{{mtentry4|Air Cutter|Flying|Special|55|95|25|Cool|3|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Draco Meteor|Dragon|Special|140|90|5|Smart|2||'''|yes|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Earth Power|Ground|Special|90|100|10|Smart|2||'''|no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Fire Punch|Fire|Physical|75|100|15|Beauty|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Fury Cutter|Bug|Physical|10|95|20|Cool|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Headbutt|Normal|Physical|70|100|15|Tough|3|||no|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Heat Wave|Fire|Special|100|90|10|Beauty|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Mud-Slap|Ground|Special|20|100|10|Cute|3||'''|no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Ominous Wind|Ghost|Special|60|100|5|Smart|0|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Outrage|Dragon|Physical|120|100|15|Cool|2||'''|no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Snore|Normal|Special|40|100|15|Cool|3|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Swift|Normal|Special|60|—|20|Cool|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|ThunderPunch|Electric|Physical|75|100|15|Cool|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Twister|Dragon|Special|40|100|20|Cool|3||'''|no|yes|yes}}
{{tutor/note|4|ground|dragon}}

====Special moves====

===Side game data===
{{Side game|
type=ground |
ndex=330 |
PinRSevo=yes |
Trozei=yes |
rarity=Rare |
Dungeon=yes |
body=1 |
rate=Evolve |
area=Furnace Desert |
P1= If the going gets too rough, I duck and hide in a sandstorm! |
P2= Oops, they've taken my HP down by half already... |
P3= This won't do... I don't have the energy to flap my wings... |
PL= Yes! Leveled up! Desert sandstorms will help me! |
Partner=no |
Ranger=yes |
typeG= Dragon |
typeA= Ground |
field= Gust |
fieldpower= 3 |
loop=6 |
browser= Flygon flies almost faster than the eye can follow. It whips up gust of wind. |
Dungeon2=yes |
body2=1 |
rate2=-12% |
iq=D |
Ranger2=yes |
typeG2= Dragon |
typeA2= Dragon |
field2= Cut |
field2power= 4 |
browser2= It flies around while letting loose supersonic waves and shock waves. |
}}

===Evolution===
{{evobox
|family=Normal
|sprite1=328
|name1=Trapinch
|type1-1=Ground
|evotype1=Level
|level1=35
|sprite2=329
|name2=Vibrava
|type1-2=Ground
|type2-2=Dragon
|evotype2=Level
|level2=45
|sprite3=330
|name3=Flygon
|type1-3=Ground
|type2-3=Dragon}}

===Sprites===
{{Sprite|
type=ground|
type2=dragon|
gen=3|
gender=none|
ndex=330|
name=Flygon|
}}

==Trivia==
* Flygon and its pre-evolution are the only non-legendary Pokémon that are not {{type2|Flying}} and can learn {{m|Fly}}, with the exception of {{p|Smeargle}}.
:* Flygon and Vibrava are also the only Pokémon that can learn Fly that can also know {{m|Dig}} without aid of a TM (other than {{p|Smeargle}}).
* As of {{v2|Platinum}}, Flygon and {{p|Vibrava}} are also the only non-legendary Pokémon that are not {{type2|Fire}} or {{type2|Flying}} and can learn {{m|Heat Wave}}, with the exception of {{p|Smeargle}}.
* Flygon shares the same [[species]] name with {{p|Xatu}}. They are both known as Mystic Pokémon.
* Flygon is commonly mistaken as a psuedo-legendary pokemon, due to the fact that it is seen as incredibly strong in the anime, is the final stage in a 3 part evolutionary line and is a dragon type, considered by many to be the best type in the games. It is not because it does not have base stat total of 600, does not have attack as it's highest stat and is considered to be the weakest non-legendary Dragon type, as Kingdra is seen more often in competitive play.

===Origin===
Flygon is based on the winged, adult stage of the {{wp|antlion}}, also called "sand dragon".

====Name origin====
Flygon's name is a combination of ''{{wp|fly}}'' and ''dragon'' or a rearrangement of ''{{wp|dragonfly}}''.

==In other languages==
*[[List of German Pokémon names|German]]: Libelldra - A combination of ''Libelle'' (dragonfly) and ''Drache'' (dragon).
*[[List of French Pokémon names|French]]: Libegon - From ''libellule'' (dragonfly) and ''dragon''.
*[[List of Korean Pokémon names|Korean]]: 플라이곤 ''Flygon''

==External links==

{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Vibrava | next=Cacnea | prevnum=329 | nextnum=331 | type=ground| type2=dragon}}
{{Project Pokédex notice}}

[[de:Libelldra]]
[[es:Flygon]]
[[fr:Libégon]]
[[ja:フライゴン]]
[[pt:Flygon (pokémon)]]

Aggron (Pokémon)

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{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Lairon | next=Meditite |type=steel|type2=rock| prevnum=305| nextnum=307}}
{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Aggron |
jname=ボスゴドラ |
tmname=Bossgodora |
image=306Aggron.png|size=130|
caption=Artwork from R/S/E |
ndex=306 |
hdex=072 |
adex=133 |
typen=2 |
type1=Steel |
type2=Rock |
species=Iron Armor |
height-ftin=6'11" |
height-m=2.1 |
weight-lbs=793.7 |
weight-kg=360.0 |
abilityn=2 |
ability1=Sturdy |
ability2=Rock Head |
egggroupn=1 |
egggroup1=Monster |
egggroup2= |
eggcycles=25 |
evde=3 |
expyield=205 |
lv100exp=1,250,000 |
gendercode=127 |
color=Gray |
catchrate=45 |
body=06 |
pokefordex=aggron |
generation=3 |
footnotes=}}
'''Aggron''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''ボスゴドラ''' ''Bossgodora'') is a dual-type {{2t|Steel|Rock}} Pokémon.

It [[Evolution|evolves]] from {{p|Lairon}} starting at [[level]] 42. It is the final form of {{p|Aron}}.

==Biology==
===Physiology===
Aggron resemble huge black and gray triceratops. They stand on their hind legs and use their arms to attack opponents and pick things up. They have a thick, long, black tail that they can swing at enemies and they have large armor plating on their body and head. Huge horns sprout from their extra-thick skull plating, providing extra protection. Their upper jaw extends beyond the lower in a small point.
====Gender differences====
None.

====Special abilities====
Like {{p|Steelix}}, Aggron's only real special ability is its incredible defense, but it does have an imposing 110 base {{stat|Attack}} as well. Unlike other {{type2|Steel}} Pokémon, {{type2|Fire}} attacks are not super effective on Aggron because it is part {{type2|Rock}}.

===Behavior===
Aggron are very protective of their territory. They are strong and large and behave in several different ways. The first way in which their behavior can be seen is with their territory. Aggron will claim huge areas of land as its territory. Then it will patrol it day and night to make sure no unwanted Pokémon come marching. If a Pokémon is foolish or arrogant to march into an Aggron's territory, Aggron will fight as hard as it can to defeat the intruder or drive it out. However, Aggron are very caring. If their territory is damaged by a flood or a forest fire, they will take trees and plants to fix everything, making it nice again. Finally, Aggron, like many Pokémon (especially {{p|Kangaskhan}}), take care of their young. Aggron will defend their baby Aron with their life to make sure they survive.

===Habitat===
[[Image:Mountain.gif|right|frame|{{DL|List of Pokémon by habitat|Mountain Pokémon}}]]
Aggron will claim an entire mountain as its territory. Aggron will patrol their territory day and night to watch for intruders. It will attack any intruders found with its full strength. Despite this, Aggron is surprisingly caring. If a landslide or fire destroys its habitat, it will carry in topsoil and plant trees to restore the beauty of the mountain.

===Diet===
{{main|Pokémon food}}

Much like their pre-evolutions, Aggron eat iron.

==In the anime==
[[Image:Aggron anime.jpg|right|thumb|235px|Aggron in the anime]]
Aggron's first major appearance in ''[[AG022|A Hole Lotta Trouble]]'', under the ownership of [[Steven Stone]]. The Iron Armor Pokémon was used to send [[Team Rocket]] flying.

Aggron also made a cameo in ''[[Jirachi: Wish Maker]]''. {{ga|Brendan}} was using it in a [[double battle]] alongside a {{p|Shiftry}}.

An Aggron sent a {{p|Skarmory}} to kidnap an {{p|Azumarill}} to sing for him and his children in ''[[PK14|Pikachu's Summer Festival]]''.

{{ho|Tyson}}'s {{p|Sceptile}} defeated an Aggron belonging to a man named [[Johnny]] in ''[[AG128|Shocks and Bonds]]''.

[[Dr. Yung]] used a [[Mirage Pokémon|Mirage]] Aggron in ''[[The Mastermind of Mirage Pokémon]]''.

[[Jessie]] and [[James]] were given a {{TP|Jessie|Charizard}} and {{TP|James|Aggron}} in ''[[AG177|Grating Spaces]]''. The two Pokémon were used to battle [[Ash's Donphan]] and [[Brock's Steelix]].

Aggron, together with its [[Evolution|evolutionary family]] {{p|Aron}} and {{p|Lairon}}, appeared in ''[[Giratina and the Sky Warrior]]'' where it helped {{ashfr|Ash's friends}} to stop the glacier.

[[Conway]] owns an Aggron. It made a cameo in ''[[DP051|Glory Blaze!]]''.

An Aggron is owned by a construction worker in ''[[DP057|Bibarel Gnaws Best!]]''.

In ''[[DP072|Pokémon Ranger and the Kidnapped Riolu! Part Two]]'', Pokémon Hunter [[J]]'s client used an Aggron to block up passages in a cave to prevent Ash and [[Kellyn]] from following him.

An Aggron appeared in ''[[DP091|One Team, Two Team, Red Team, Blue Team!]]''.

Another Aggron appeared in ''[[DP110|Steeling Peace of Mind!]]'' and ''[[DP111|Saving the World From Ruins!]]'' where it was one of the {{type2|Steel}} Pokémon on [[Iron Island]] that had gone crazy due to [[Team Galactic]].

An Aggron appeared in ''[[DP119|Trials and Adulations!]]'', where it fought against [[Dawn's Mamoswine]].

===Pokédex entries===
{{Animedexheader|Sinnoh}}
{{Animedexbody|DP119|Aggron|Dawn's Pokédex|Aggron, the Iron Armor Pokémon. Aggron's steel horns can destroy the firmest of bedrock and it {{m|dig}}s tunnels as it looks for iron to eat.}}
{{Animedexfooter/Pokémon|''Diamond & Pearl''|Sinnoh}}

==In the manga==
In [[Pokémon Special]], {{Special|Sapphire}} has a male Aggron called [[Rono]].

==In the TCG==
{{main|Aggron (TCG)}}

==Game data==
===NPC appearances===
* [[Pokémon Pinball: Ruby & Sapphire]]: The EVO Mode banner features an Aggron.

===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex
|type=steel
|type2=rock
|gen=3
|rubydex=Aggron claims an entire mountain as its own territory. It mercilessly beats up anything that violates its environment. This Pokémon vigilantly patrols its territory at all times.
|sapphiredex=Aggron is surprisingly protective of its environment. If its mountain is ravaged by a landslide or a fire, this Pokémon will haul topsoil to the area, plant trees, and beautifully restore its own territory.
|emeralddex=Its iron horns grow longer a little at a time. They are used to determine the Aggron's age. The gouges in its armor are worn with pride as mementos from battles.
|firereddex=It claims a large mountain as its sole territory. It mercilessly thrashes those that violate its space.
|leafgreendex=It claims a large mountain as its sole territory. It mercilessly thrashes those that violate its space.
|diamonddex=While seeking iron for food, it digs tunnels by breaking through bedrock with its steel horns.
|pearldex=While seeking iron for food, it digs tunnels by breaking through bedrock with its steel horns.
|platinumdex=While seeking iron for food, it digs tunnels by breaking through bedrock with its steel horns.
|}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability|
type=steel |
type2=rock |
gen=3 |
frlgex=rse |
rsarea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Lairon}} |
earea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Lairon}} |
xdarea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Lairon}} |
gen4ex=diamond |
dparea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Lairon}} |
ptarea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Lairon}} |
palarea=Mountain |
}}

====In side games====
{{SidegameAvail
|type=steel
|type2=rock
|pinballrs=Evolve from {{p|Lairon}}
|trozei={{PM|3|Phobos Drill}} Trozei Battle [[Mr. Who's Den]]
|md=Evolve from {{p|Lairon}}
|md2=Evolve from {{p|Lairon}}
|ranger2=[[Volcano Cave]]
}}

===Stats===
====Base stats====
{{BaseStats|
type=steel|
type2=rock|
HP= 70 |
Attack= 110 |
Defense=180 |
SpAtk= 60 |
SpDef= 60 |
Speed= 50 }}

====Pokéthlon stats====
{{Pokéthlon|
|Speed=2
|Power=5
|Technique=4
|Stamina=4
|Jump=2}}

===Type effectiveness===
{{DP Type effectiveness|
type1=steel|
type2=rock|
Normal= 25 |
Fighting=400 |
Flying= 25 |
Poison= 0 |
Ground= 400 |
Rock= 50 |
Bug= 50 |
Ghost= 50 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 100 |
Water= 200 |
Grass= 100 |
Electric=100 |
Psychic= 50 |
Ice= 50 |
Dragon= 50 |
Dark= 50 }}

===Learnset===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{movelist|steel|rock|4|3|Aggron}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Tackle|Normal|Physical|35|95|35|Tough|3}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Harden|Normal|Status|—|—|30|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Mud-Slap|Ground|Special|20|100|10|Cute|3}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Headbutt|Normal|Physical|70|100|15|Tough|3}}
{{mlentry4|4|Harden|Normal|Status|—|—|30|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|8|Mud-Slap|Ground|Special|20|100|10|Cute|3}}
{{mlentry4|11|Headbutt|Normal|Physical|70|100|15|Tough|3}}
{{mlentry4|15|Metal Claw|Steel|Physical|50|95|35|Cool|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|18|Iron Defense|Steel|Status|—|—|15|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|22|Roar|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|25|Take Down|Normal|Physical|90|85|20|Tough|3}}
{{mlentry4|29|Iron Head|Steel|Physical|80|100|15|Tough|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|34|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|40|Metal Sound|Steel|Status|—|85|40|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|48|Iron Tail|Steel|Physical|100|75|15|Cool|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|57|Double-Edge|Normal|Physical|120|100|15|Tough|0}}
{{mlentry4|65|Metal Burst|Steel|Physical|—|100|10|Beauty|2}}
{{movelist/note|3|steel|rock}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{movelisttm|steel|rock|4|3|Aggron}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM01]]|Focus Punch|Fighting|Physical|150|100|20|Tough|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM02]]|Dragon Claw|Dragon|Physical|80|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM03]]|Water Pulse|Water|Special|60|100|20|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM05]]|Roar|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM06]]|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|85|10|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM10]]|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|—|100|15|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM11]]|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|—|—|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM12]]|Taunt|Dark|Status|—|100|20|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM13]]|Ice Beam|Ice|Special|95|100|10|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM14]]|Blizzard|Ice|Special|120|70|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM15]]|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|5|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM17]]|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM18]]|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM21]]|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM22]]|SolarBeam|Grass|Special|120|100|10|Cool|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM23]]|Iron Tail|Steel|Physical|100|75|15|Cool|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM24]]|Thunderbolt|Electric|Special|95|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM25]]|Thunder|Electric|Special|120|70|10|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM26]]|Earthquake|Ground|Physical|100|100|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM27]]|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM28]]|Dig|Ground|Physical|80|100|10|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM31]]|Brick Break|Fighting|Physical|75|100|15|Cool|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM32]]|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM34]]|Shock Wave|Electric|Special|60|—|20|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM35]]|Flamethrower|Fire|Special|95|100|15|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM37]]|Sandstorm|Rock|Status|—|—|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM38]]|Fire Blast|Fire|Special|120|85|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM39]]|Rock Tomb|Rock|Physical|50|80|10|Smart|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM40]]|Aerial Ace|Flying|Physical|60|—|20|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM42]]|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM43]]|Secret Power|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM44]]|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM45]]|Attract|Normal|Status|—|100|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM52]]|Focus Blast|Fighting|Special|120|70|5|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM56]]|Fling|Dark|Physical|—|100|10|Tough|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM58]]|Endure|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM59]]|Dragon Pulse|Dragon|Special|90|100|10|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM65]]|Shadow Claw|Ghost|Physical|70|100|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM66]]|Payback|Dark|Physical|50|100|10|Cool|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM68]]|Giga Impact|Normal|Physical|150|90|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM69]]|Rock Polish|Rock|Status|—|—|20|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM71]]|Stone Edge|Rock|Physical|100|80|5|Tough|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM72]]|Avalanche|Ice|Physical|60|100|10|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM76]]|Stealth Rock|Rock|Status|—|—|20|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM77]]|Psych Up|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM78]]|Captivate|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM79]]|Dark Pulse|Dark|Special|80|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM80]]|Rock Slide|Rock|Physical|75|90|10|Tough|3||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM82]]|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM83]]|Natural Gift|Normal|Physical|—|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM87]]|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM90]]|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM91]]|Flash Cannon|Steel|Special|80|100|10|Smart|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM01]]|Cut|Normal|Physical|50|95|30|Cool|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM03]]|Surf|Water|Special|95|100|15|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM04]]|Strength|Normal|Physical|80|100|15|Tough|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM05]]|Whirlpool|Water|Special|15|70|15|Beauty|0|||HGSS}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM06]]|Rock Smash|Fighting|Physical|40|100|15|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM08]]|Rock Climb|Normal|Physical|90|85|20|Cool|2}}
{{movelist/note|4|steel|rock}}

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
{{eggmoves|steel|rock|4|3|Aggron}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Lapras}} {{p|Snorlax}} {{p|Chikorita}}, {{p|Bayleef}}, {{p|Meganium}} {{p|Tropius}}|Body Slam|Normal|Physical|85|100|15|Tough|3}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Slowpoke}}, {{p|Slowbro}}, {{p|Slowking}} {{p|Turtwig}}, {{p|Grotle}}, {{p|Torterra}}|Curse|???|Status|—|—|10|Tough|0}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Gible}}, {{p|Gabite}}, {{p|Garchomp}}|Dragon Rush|Dragon|Physical|100|75|10|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Cubone}}, {{p|Marowak}} {{p|Mudkip}}, {{p|Marshtomp}}, {{p|Swampert}} {{p|Rampardos}}|Endeavor|Normal|Physical|—|100|5|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Cranidos}}, {{p|Rampardos}}|Head Smash|Rock|Physical|150|80|5|Tough|2||'''|HGSS}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Aron}}, {{p|Lairon}}, {{p|Aggron}} {{p|Shieldon}}, {{p|Bastiodon}}|Iron Head|Steel|Physical|80|100|15|Tough|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Lickitung}}, {{p|Lickilicky}} {{p|Totodile}}, {{p|Croconaw}}, {{p|Feraligatr}} {{p|Larvitar}}, {{p|Pupitar}}, {{p|Tyranitar}} {{p|Treecko}}, {{p|Grovyle}}, {{p|Sceptile}} {{p|Whismur}}, {{p|Loudred}}, {{p|Exploud}} {{p|Cranidos}}, {{p|Rampardos}}|Screech|Normal|Status|—|85|40|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Lickitung}}, {{p|Lickilicky}} {{p|Whismur}}, {{p|Loudred}}, {{p|Exploud}}|SmellingSalt|Normal|Physical|60|100|10|Smart|0|*}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Lickitung}}, {{p|Lickilicky}} {{p|Rhyhorn}}, {{p|Rhydon}}, {{p|Rhyperior}} {{p|Whismur}}, {{p|Loudred}}, {{p|Exploud}} {{p|Tropius}}|Stomp|Normal|Physical|65|100|20|Tough|3}}
{{eggmoves/note|4|steel|rock}}

====By [[Move tutor|tutoring]]====
{{tutor|steel|rock|4b|3a|Aggron}}
{{mtentry4|AncientPower|Rock|Special|60|100|5|Tough|2||'''|no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Aqua Tail|Water|Physical|90|90|10|Cute|3|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Earth Power|Ground|Special|90|100|10|Smart|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Endeavor|Normal|Physical|—|100|5|Tough|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Fury Cutter|Bug|Physical|10|95|20|Cool|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Headbutt|Normal|Physical|70|100|15|Tough|3|||no|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Ice Punch|Ice|Physical|75|100|15|Beauty|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Icy Wind|Ice|Special|55|95|15|Beauty|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Iron Defense|Steel|Status|—|—|15|Tough|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Iron Head|Steel|Physical|80|100|15|Tough|2||'''|no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Magnet Rise|Electric|Status|—|—|10|Cute|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Mud-Slap|Ground|Special|20|100|10|Cute|3|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Outrage|Dragon|Physical|120|100|15|Cool|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Rollout|Rock|Physical|30|90|20|Tough|2||'''|no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Snore|Normal|Special|40|100|15|Cute|3|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Spite|Ghost|Status|—|100|10|Tough|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Superpower|Fighting|Physical|120|100|5|Tough|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|ThunderPunch|Electric|Physical|75|100|15|Cool|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Uproar|Normal|Special|50|100|10|Cute|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{tutor/note|4|steel|rock}}

===Side game data===

{{Side game|
type=steel |
ndex=306 |
PinRSevo=yes |
Trozei=yes |
rarity=Rare |
Dungeon=yes |
body=1 |
rate=Evolve |
area=Mt. Cleft |
P1=I don't forgive anyone that messes with my territory! |
P2=Gah! So, my health has slipped down by half... |
P3=I'm finished... I'm drained of power... |
PL=That's right! I leveled up! I'll smash my enemies flat! |
Partner=no |
Ranger=no |
Dungeon2=yes |
body2=1 |
rate2=-10% |
iq=E |
Ranger2=yes |
typeG2=Steel |
typeA2=Steel |
field2=Tackle |
field2power=4 |
browser2=It opens up fissures in the ground. It also rams to attack. |
}}

===Evolution===
{{evobox
|family=Normal
|sprite1=304
|name1=Aron
|type1-1=Steel
|type2-1=Rock
|evotype1=Level
|level1=32
|sprite2=305
|name2=Lairon
|type1-2=Steel
|type2-2=Rock
|evotype2=Level
|level2=42
|sprite3=306
|name3=Aggron
|type1-3=Steel
|type2-3=Rock}}

===Sprites===
{{Sprite|
type=steel|
type2=rock|
gen=3|
gender=none|
ndex=306|
name=Aggron|
}}

==Trivia==
* Despite being part {{type2|Rock}}, Aggron does not learn any Rock-type moves by leveling up. However, in HeartGold and SoulSilver, it learns {{m|Head Smash}} through breeding.
*Looking at Aggron's Sapphire Pokédex entry, it could be considered a contrast to Tyranitar—while Tyranitar often destroys the land around it (and requiring maps to be redrawn in extreme cases), an Aggron will restore a piece of land to its original state after a natural disaster like a landslide.
*Aggron can learn the [[signature move]]s of both {{p|Cranidos}} and {{p|Shieldon}}'s evolutionary families: {{m|Head Smash}} and {{m|Metal Burst}}, the former by breeding in {{2v|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}, and the latter by leveling up.
* Aggron is commonly mistaken as a psuedo-legendary pokemon, due to it being commonly seen as fearsome as a Tyranitar or something of the sort in the anime.
===Origin===
It may be based on a {{wp|triceratops}} (a type of {{wp|dinosaur}}). It could also be a steel variant of {{p|Rhydon}}.
====Name origin====
Aggron's name is a combination of ''aggressive'' and ''{{wp|iron}}''. It may also be based on ''aggrandize'' (to make larger), referring to its growth as a result of evolution. Its Japanese name may be a combination of ''boss'' and ''dragon'', possibly with a reference to famous {{wp|kaiju}} {{wp|King Ghidorah}} thrown in the mix.

==In other languages==
*[[List of German Pokémon names|German]]: Stolloss
*[[List of French Pokémon names|French]]: Galeking - From ''gallet'' (pebble) and the english word ''king''.
*[[List of Korean Pokémon names|Korean]]: 보스로라 ''Bosslora''

==Related articles==
* [[James's Aggron]]

==External links==

{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Lairon | next=Meditite |type=steel|type2=rock| prevnum=305| nextnum=307}}
{{Project Pokédex notice}}

[[de:Stolloss]]
[[es:Aggron]]
[[fr:Galeking]]
[[ja:ボスゴドラ]]
[[pt:Aggron (pokémon)]]

Black Belt (Trainer class)

2009-10-04T04:39:58Z

Minimag:

A '''Black Belt''' ('''Blackbelt''' in [[Generation II]]; Japanese, Generation I and II: '''からておう''' ''Karate King'', III onward: '''カラテおう''' ''Karate King''—note the use of katakana) is a type of [[Pokémon Trainer]] that first debuted in the [[Generation I]] games. They are generally depicted as young men in headband and ''gi'' striking a fighting pose.

They specialize in {{type2|Fighting}} Pokémon.

Their female counterpart seems to be the [[Battle Girl]] or [[Crush Girl]].

==Appearance==

{| align="center" style="background: #{{fighting color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 15px;"
|
{| align="center" style="background: #{{fighting color}}; -moz-border-radius: 15px; border: 4px solid #{{fighting color}};" colspan=4 cellspacing="2" cellpadding="2"
|- align="center"
! style="background: #{{fighting color}};" colspan="6" | Black Belt Sprites
|-
! style="background: #{{fighting color light}}; -moz-border-radius-topcenter: 15px; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 15px; -moz-border-radius-topright: 15px;" | [[Image:GenIBlackbelt.png]]
! style="background: #{{fighting color light}}; -moz-border-radius-topcenter: 15px; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 15px; -moz-border-radius-topright: 15px;" | [[File:GSC_Blackbelt.png]]
! style="background: #{{fighting color light}}; -moz-border-radius-topcenter: 15px; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 15px; -moz-border-radius-topright: 15px;" | [[File:RSE_Blackbelt.png]]
! style="background: #{{fighting color light}}; -moz-border-radius-topcenter: 15px; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 15px; -moz-border-radius-topright: 15px;" | [[Image:FL_BlackBelt.png]]
! style="background: #{{fighting color light}}; -moz-border-radius-topcenter: 15px; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 15px; -moz-border-radius-topright: 15px;" | [[Image:DP_Black_Belt.png]]
! style="background: #{{fighting color light}}; -moz-border-radius-topcenter: 15px; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 15px; -moz-border-radius-topright: 15px;" | [[Image:HGSS Black Belt.png]]
|-
| align="center" style="background: #{{fighting color light}}; -moz-border-radius-bottomright: 15px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft: 15px;" | ''Image from {{color2|000000|Pokémon Red and Blue Versions|Red and Blue}}''
| align="center" style="background: #{{fighting color light}}; -moz-border-radius-bottomright: 15px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft: 15px;" | ''Image from {{color2|000000|Pokémon Gold and Silver Versions|Gold, Silver}}, and {{color2|000000|Pokémon Crystal Version|Crystal}}''
| align="center" style="background: #{{fighting color light}}; -moz-border-radius-bottomright: 15px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft: 15px;" | ''Image from {{color2|000000|Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Versions|Ruby, Sapphire}}, and {{color2|000000|Pokémon Emerald Version|Emerald}}''
| align="center" style="background: #{{fighting color light}}; -moz-border-radius-bottomright: 15px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft: 15px;" | ''Image from {{color2|000000|Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen Versions|FireRed and LeafGreen}}''
| align="center" style="background: #{{fighting color light}}; -moz-border-radius-bottomright: 15px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft: 15px;" | ''Image from {{color2|000000|Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|Diamond, Pearl}}, and {{color2|000000|Pokémon Platinum Version|Platinum}}''
| align="center" style="background: #{{fighting color light}}; -moz-border-radius-bottomright: 15px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft: 15px;" | ''Image from {{color2|000000|Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions|HeartGold and SoulSilver}}''
|}
|}

==Trainer List==
===Pokémon Gold/Silver/Crystal===
{| class="expandable" {{bluetable|background: white; width: 100%}}
|- style="background: #ccf;"
! Name
! Pokémon
|-
| Blackbelt Kenji
| lv.28 Machoke 
lv.27 Onix, lv.30 Hitmonlee, lv.27 Onix, lv.32 Machoke 
lv.33 Onix, lv.38 Machamp, lv.33 Steelix, lv.36 Hitmonlee
|-
| Blackbelt [[Kiyo]]
| lv.34 Hitmonlee, lv.34 Hitmonchan
|-
| Blackbelt Lao
| lv.27 Hitmonchan
|-
| Blackbelt Lung
| lv.23 Mankey, lv.23 Mankey, lv.25 Primeape
|-
| Blackbelt Nob
| lv.25 Machop, lv.25 Machoke
|-
| Blackbelt Wai
| lv.30 Machoke, lv.32 Machoke, lv.34 Machoke
|-
| Blackbelt Yoshi
| lv.27 Hitmonlee
|}

===Pokémon Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald===
{| class="expandable" {{bluetable|background: white; width: 100%}}
|- style="background: #ccf;"
! Name
! Pokémon
|-
| Black Belt Atsushi
| lv.32 Hariyama
|-
| Black Belt Cristian
| lv.13 Makuhita
|-
| Black Belt Daisuke
| lv.19 Machop
|-
| Black Belt Hitoshi
| lv.32 Machop, lv.32 Machoke
|-
| Black Belt Kiyo
| lv.34 Hariyama
|-
| Black Belt Koichi
| lv.24 Machop, lv.28 Machoke
|-
| Black Belt Koji
| lv.34 Machoke 
lv.37 Machoke, lv.37 Machoke 
lv.39 Makuhita, lv.39 Machoke, lv.39 Machoke 
lv.41 Hariyama, lv.41 Machoke, lv.41 Machoke 
lv.43 Hariyama, lv.43 Machamp, lv.43 Machamp
|-
| Black Belt Nob
| lv.19 Machop 
lv.27 Machoke 
lv.31 Machop, lv.31 Machoke, lv.31 Machoke 
lv.33 Machop, lv.33 Machoke, lv.33 Machoke
|-
| Black Belt Rhett
| lv.15 Makuhita
|-
| Black Belt Takao
| lv.13 Machop
|-
| Black Belt Yuji
| lv.26 Makuhita, lv.26 Machoke
|-.
| Black Belt Zander
| lv.31 Hariyama
|}

===Pokémon FireRed/LeafGreen===
{| class="expandable" {{bluetable|background: white; width: 100%}}
|- style="background: #ccf;"
! Name
! Pokémon
|-
| Black Belt Aaron
| lv.36 Primeape
|-
| Black Belt Atsushi
| lv.40 Machop, lv.40 Machoke
|-
| Black Belt Daisuke
| lv.43 Machoke, lv.43 Machop, lv.43 Machoke
|-
| Black Belt Hideki
| lv.32 Machop, lv.32 Machoke
|-
| Black Belt Hitoshi
| lv.31 Machop, lv.31 Mankey, lv.31 Primeape
|-
| Black Belt Hugh
| lv.37 Machop, lv.37 Machoke 
lv.50 Machoke, lv.50 Machoke 
lv.55 Machoke, lv.55 Machamp
|-
| Black Belt Kiyo
| lv.43 Machoke
|-
| Black Belt [[Koichi]]
| lv.37 Hitmonlee, lv.37 Hitmonchan
|-
| Black Belt Mike
| lv.31 Mankey, lv.31 Mankey, lv.31 Primeape
|-
| Black Belt Shea
| lv.38 Machop, lv.38 Machoke 
lv.50 Machoke, lv.50 Machoke 
lv.55 Machoke, lv.55 Machamp
|-
| Black Belt Takashi
| lv.38 Machop, lv.38 Machoke
|}

===Pokémon Diamond/Pearl===
{| class="expandable" {{bluetable|background: white; width: 100%}}
|- style="background: #ccf;"
! Name
! Pokémon
|-
| Black Belt Adam
| lv.29 Machoke
|-
| Black Belt Carl
| lv.52 Croagunk, lv.56 Machamp
|-
| Black Belt Colby
| lv.25 Machoke, lv.25 Machoke, lv.25 Machoke
|-
| Black Belt Darren
| lv.25 Machoke, lv.25 Machop, lv.25 Machoke
|-
| Black Belt David
| lv.30 Onix, lv.32 Steelix
|-
| Black Belt Davon
| lv.54 Mankey, lv.53 Makuhita, lv.55 Hariyama 
lv.58 Primeape, lv.59 Hariyama, lv.60 Hariyama
|-
| Black Belt Derek
| lv.25 Croagunk
|-
| Black Belt Eddie
| lv.52 Machoke, lv.58 Machamp
|-
| Black Belt Gregory
| lv.23 Meditite, lv.22 Machop, lv.21 Meditite
|-
| Black Belt Griffin
| lv.57 Cacturne, lv.57 Machamp
|-
| Black Belt Jarrett
| lv.59 Machamp
|-
| Black Belt Jeffery
| lv.28 Meditite
|-
| Black Belt Kendal
| lv.35 Croagunk
|-
| Black Belt Kyle
| lv.19 Machop
|-
| Black Belt Luke
| lv.36 Croagunk, lv.35 Onix, lv.37 Machoke
|-
| Black Belt Miles
| lv.49 Machamp
|-
| Black Belt Nathaniel
| lv.21 Croagunk, lv.23 Meditite, lv.22 Machop
|-
| Black Belt Philip
| lv.40 Machoke 
lv.57 Machamp
|-
| Black Belt Rafael
| lv.28 Meditite
|-
| Black Belt Ray
| lv.53 Tyrogue, lv.57 Marowak, lv.58 Breloom
|-
| Black Belt Ricky
| lv.33 Steelix
|-
| Black Belt Sean
| lv.28 Croagunk, lv.27 Meditite, lv.29 Machoke
|}

==Trivia==
* The Diamond, Pearl and Platinum sprite looks like the Generation III sprites, except in a different pose.

==In other languages==
*'''French:''' ''Karateka''
*'''German:''' ''Schwarzgurt''
*'''Italian:''' ''Cinturanera''
*'''Korean:''' 태권왕 (''Taegweonwang'')
*'''Spanish:''' ''Karateka''

{{Gen I trainers}} 
{{Project Class notice}}

[[Category:Trainer classes]]
[[Category:Fighting-type trainers]]

[[de:Schwarzgurt (Trainerklasse)]]
[[ja:からておう]]

Psychic (Trainer class)

2009-10-04T04:35:12Z

Minimag:

A '''Psychic''' (Japanese: '''サイキッカー''' ''Psychicker'') is a type of [[Pokémon Trainer]] that first debuted in the [[Generation I]] games. They were originally only male, but in [[Generation III]], female Psychics started to appear. They are depicted as boys or girls levitating [[Poké Ball]]s with their psychokinetic powers.

They obviously specialize in {{type2|Psychic}} Pokémon, and also in {{type2|Ghost}} Pokémon in [[Generation IV]].

==Appearance==

{| align="center" style="background: #{{Psychic color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 15px;"
|
{| align="center" style="background: #{{Psychic color}}; -moz-border-radius: 15px; border: 4px solid #{{Psychic color}};" colspan=4 cellspacing="2" cellpadding="2"
|- align="center"
! style="background: #{{Psychic color}};" colspan="5" | Psychic Sprites
|-
! style="background: #{{Psychic color light}}; -moz-border-radius-topcenter: 15px; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 15px; -moz-border-radius-topright: 15px;" | [[Image:GenIPsychic.png]]
! style="background: #{{Psychic color light}}; -moz-border-radius-topcenter: 15px; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 15px; -moz-border-radius-topright: 15px;" | [[Image:GSC_Psychic.png]]
! style="background: #{{Psychic color light}}; -moz-border-radius-topcenter: 15px; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 15px; -moz-border-radius-topright: 15px;" | [[Image:RSE_PsychicM.png]][[Image:RSE_PsychicF.png]]
! style="background: #{{Psychic color light}}; -moz-border-radius-topcenter: 15px; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 15px; -moz-border-radius-topright: 15px;" | [[Image:FL_PsychicM.png]][[Image:FL_PsychicF.png]]
! style="background: #{{Psychic color light}}; -moz-border-radius-topcenter: 15px; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 15px; -moz-border-radius-topright: 15px;" | [[Image:DP_Psychic_M.png]][[Image:DP_Psychic_F.png]]
|-
| align="center" style="background: #{{Psychic color light}}; -moz-border-radius-bottomright: 15px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft: 15px;" | ''Image from {{color2|000000|Pokémon Red and Blue Versions|Red and Blue}}''
| align="center" style="background: #{{Psychic color light}}; -moz-border-radius-bottomright: 15px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft: 15px;" | ''Image from {{color2|000000|Pokémon Gold and Silver Versions|Gold, Silver}}, and {{color2|000000|Pokémon Crystal Version|Crystal}}''
| align="center" style="background: #{{Psychic color light}}; -moz-border-radius-bottomright: 15px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft: 15px;" | ''Images from {{color2|000000|Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Versions|Ruby, Sapphire}}, and {{color2|000000|Pokémon Emerald Version|Emerald}}''
| align="center" style="background: #{{Psychic color light}}; -moz-border-radius-bottomright: 15px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft: 15px;" | ''Images from {{color2|000000|Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen Versions|FireRed and LeafGreen}}
| align="center" style="background: #{{Psychic color light}}; -moz-border-radius-bottomright: 15px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft: 15px;" | ''Images from {{color2|000000|Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|Diamond, Pearl}}, {{color2|000000|Pokémon Platinum Version|Platinum}}, {{color2|000000|Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions|HeartGold, and SoulSilver}}''
|}
|}

==Trainer List==
===Male===
====Pokémon Gold/Silver/Crystal====

{| class="expandable" {{bluetable|background: white; width: 100%}}
|- style="background: #ccf;"
! Name
! Pokémon
|-
| Psychic Franklin
| lv.37 Kadabra
|-
| Psychic Fidel
| lv.34 Xatu
|-
| Psychic Gilbert
| lv.30 Starmie, lv.30 Exeggcute, lv.34 Girafarig
|-
| Psychic Greg
| lv.17 Drowzee
|-
| Psychic Herman
| lv.30 Exeggcute, lv.30 Exeggcute, lv.30 Exeggutor
|-
| Psychic Jared
| lv.32 Mr. Mime, lv.32 Exeggcute, lv.35 Exeggcute
|-
| Psychic Mark
| lv.13 Abra, lv.15 Kadabra
|-
| Psychic Nathan
| lv.26 Girafarig
|-
| Psychic Norman
| lv.17 Slowpoke, lv20 Slowpoke
|-
| Psychic Phil
| lv.24 Natu, lv.26 Kadabra
|-
| Psychic Richard
| lv.36 Espeon
|-
| Psychic Rodney
| lv.29 Drowzee, lv.33 Hypno
|}

====Pokémon Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald====

{| class="expandable" {{bluetable|background: white; width: 100%}}
|- style="background: #ccf;"
! Name
! Pokémon
|-
| Psychic Alvaro (Emerald-only)
| lv.41 Banette, lv.41 Kadabra
|-
| Psychic Blake (Emerald-only)
| lv.36 Girafarig
|-
| Psychic Jaclyn
| ?
|-
| Psychic Cameron
| lv.31 Solrock lv.33 Kadabra, lv.33 Solrock lv.38 Kadabra, lv.38 Solrock lv.41 Kadabra, lv.41 Solrock lv.45 Solrock, lv.45 Alakazam
|-
| Psychic Cedric (Emerald-only)
| lv.32 Wobbuffet
|-
| Psychic Edward
| lv.15 Abra
|-
| Psychic Fritz (R/S-Only)
| lv.35 Natu, lv.35 Girafarig, lv.35 Kadabra
|-
| Psychic Joshua
| lv.41 Kadabra, lv.41 Solrock
|-
| Psychic Nicholas (Emerald-only)
| lv.36 Wobbuffet
|-
| Psychic Preston
| lv.36 Kirlia
|-
| Psychic Virgil
| lv.36 Ralts
|-
| Psychic William
| lv.26 Ralts, lv.26 Ralts, lv.26 Kirlia
|}

=====Emerald Battle Frontier=====
{| class="expandable" {{bluetable|background: white; width: 100%}}
|- style="background: #ccf;"
! Name
|-
| Psychic Norton
|-
| Psychic Lukas
|-
| Psychic Zach
|-
| Psychic Rolando
|-
| Psychic Stanly
|-
| Psychic Dario
|}

====Pokémon FireRed/LeafGreen====
{| class="expandable" {{bluetable|background: white; width: 100%}}
|- style="background: #ccf;"
! Name
! Pokémon
|-
| Psychic Johan
| lv.31 Kadabra, lv.31 Slowpoke, lv.31 Mr. Mime, lv.31 Kadabra
|-
| Psychic Tyron
| lv.34 Mr. Mime, lv.34 Kadabra
|-
| Psychic Cameron
| lv.33 Slowpoke, lv.33 Slowpoke, lv.33 Slowbro
|-
| Psychic Preston
| lv.38 Slowbro
|-
| Psychic Dario
| lv.52 Girafarig lv.56 Girafarig
|}

====Pokémon Diamond/Pearl====
{| class="expandable" {{bluetable|background: white; width: 100%}}
|- style="background: #ccf;"
! Name
! Pokémon
|-
| Psychic Bryce
| lv.43 Haunter, lv. 46 Alakazam, lv.46 Gengar
|-
| Psychic Corbin
| lv.53 Shuppet, lv.55 Duskull lv.58 Banette, lv.60 Dusclops
|-
| Psychic Deandre
| lv.56 Girafarig
|-
| Psychic Elijah
| lv.15 Abra
|-
| Psychic Kody
| lv.15 Meditite
|-
| Psychic Landon
| lv.56 Mr. Mime
|-
| Psychic Maxwell
| lv.52 Misdreavus, lv.54 Haunter lv.56 Misdreavus, lv.58 Gengar
|-
| Psychic Mitchell
| lv.23 Haunter, lv.23 Kadabra lv.38 Haunter, lv.42 Kadabra lv.58 Gengar, lv.58 Alakazam
|-
| Psychic Sterling
| lv.54 Baltoy, lv.58 Grumpig
|}
=====Diamond/Pearl Battle Tower=====
{| class="expandable" {{bluetable|background: white; width: 100%}}
|- style="background: #ccf;"
! Name
|-
| Psychic Jasper
|-
| Psychic Kolton
|-
| Psychic Stewart
|-
| Psychic Clyde
|-
| Psychic Gunner
|}

====Other====
{| class="expandable" {{bluetable|background: white; width: 100%}}
|- style="background: #ccf;"
! Place
! Name
! Pokémon
|-
| {{g|Stadium 2}}
| Psychic Mason
| Raichu, Clefable, Growlithe, Slowpoke, Natu, Smeargle Raichu, Arcanine, Hypno, Kangaskhan, Xatu, Smeargle
|-
| [[Battle Tower (Hoenn)|R/S Battle Tower]]
| Psychic Julian
| Random
|-
| [[Battle Tower (Hoenn)|R/S Battle Tower]]
| Psychic Quinn
| Random
|-
| [[Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Battle e: Series 1|Battle e Series 1]]
| Psychic Griffin
| lv.52 Banette, lv.54 Absol, lv.56 Dusclops
|-
| [[Trainer Tower|FR/LG Trainer Tower]]
| Psychic Lorenzo
| Hypno, Gengar
|-
| [[Trainer Hill|Emerald Trainer Hill]]
| Psychic Keenan
| Alakazam, Grumpig, Blissey
|}

===Female===
====Pokémon Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald====
{| class="expandable" {{bluetable|background: white; width: 100%}}
|- style="background: #ccf;"
! Name
! Pokémon
|-
| Psychic Alexis
| lv.41 Kirlia, lv.41 Xatu
|-
| Psychic Alix (Emerald-only)
| lv.26 Kadabra, lv.26 Kirlia
|-
| Psychic Brandi (Emerald-only)
| lv.17 Ralts
|-
| Psychic Hannah
| lv.36 Kirlia
|-
| Psychic Jacki
| lv.30 Kadabra, lv.30 Lunatone lv.34 Kadabra, lv.34 Lunatone lv.37 Kadabra, lv.37 Lunatone lv.40 Kadabra, lv.40 Lunatone lv.43 Lunatone, lv.43 Alakazam
|-
| Psychic Jaclyn
| lv.16 Abra
|-
| Psychic Kayla
| lv.26 Wobbuffet, lv.26 Natu, lv.26 Kadabra
|-
| Psychic Macey (Emerald-only)
| lv.36 Natu
|-
| Psychic Mariela (Emerald-only)
| lv.41 Chimecho
|-
| Psychic Marlene (Emerald-only)
| lv.18 Meditite, lv.18 Spoink
|-
| Psychic Maura
| lv.36 Kadabra
|-
| Psychic Samantha
| lv.36 Xatu
|-
| Psychic Terry (Unused data)
| lv.37 Girafarig
|}

=====Emerald Battle Frontier=====
{| class="expandable" {{bluetable|background: white; width: 100%}}
|- style="background: #ccf;"
! Name
|-
| Psychic Kaitlyn
|-
| Psychic Breanna
|-
| Psychic Kendra
|-
| Psychic Karlee
|-
| Psychic Jaylin
|-
| Psychic Ingrid
|}

====Pokémon FireRed/LeafGreen====
{| class="expandable" {{bluetable|background: white; width: 100%}}
|- style="background: #ccf;"
! Name
! Pokémon
|-
| Psychic Jaclyn
| lv.48 Natu, lv.48 Slowbro, lv.49 Kadabra lv.52 Natu, lv.52 Slowbro, lv.54 Kadabra
|-
| Psychic Rodette
| lv.48 Natu, lv.48 Drowzee, lv.50 Hypno lv.53 Natu, lv.53 Hypno, lv.53 Hypno
|-
| Psychic Laura
| lv.48 Natu, lv.48 Natu, lv.49 Xatu
|}

====Pokémon Diamond/Pearl====
{| class="expandable" {{bluetable|background: white; width: 100%}}
|- style="background: #ccf;"
! Name
! Pokémon
|-
| Psychic Abigail
| lv.22 Gastly, lv.23 Misdreavus, lv.24 Kadabra lv.37 Haunter, lv.39 Misdreavus, lv.38 Kadabra lv.58 Gengar, lv.57 Misdreavus, lv.59 Alakazam
|-
| Psychic Brittney
| lv.52 Medicham, lv.54 Alakazam
|-
| Psychic Chelsey
| lv.56 Xatu, lv.58 Mismagius
|-
| Psychic Daisy
| lv.51 Slowpoke, lv.55 Slowbro lv.56 Slowbro, lv.60 Slowbro
|-
| Psychic Desiree
| lv.54 Kadabra, lv.54 Kadabra
|-
| Psychic Kendra
| lv.53 Chingling, lv.55 Chimecho
|-
| Psychic Lindsey
| lv.15 Abra
|-
| Psychic Rachel
| lv.15 Psyduck
|-
| Psychic Valencia
| lv.44 Chingling, lv.48 Chimecho
|}

=====Diamond/Pearl Battle Tower=====
{| class="expandable" {{bluetable|background: white; width: 100%}}
|- style="background: #ccf;"
! Name
|-
| Psychic Melody
|-
| Psychic Aliyah
|-
| Psychic Tina
|-
| Psychic Clara
|-
| Psychic Alma
|}

====Other====
{| class="expandable" {{bluetable|background: white; width: 100%}}
|- style="background: #ccf;"
! Place
! Name
! Pokémon
|-
| [[Battle Tower (Hoenn)|R/S Battle Tower]]
| Psychic Eileen
| Random
|-
| [[Battle Tower (Hoenn)|R/S Battle Tower]]
| Psychic Gloria
| Random
|-
| [[Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Battle e: Series 1|Battle e Series 1]]
| Psychic Natasha
| lv.50 Starmie, lv.50 Salamence, lv.50 Sceptile
|-
| [[Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Battle e: Series 1|Battle e Series 1]]
| Psychic Judith
| lv.70 Alakazam, lv.72 Kecleon, lv.74 Linoone
|-
| [[Trainer Hill|Emerald Trainer Hill]]
| Psychic Edie
| Gengar, Alakazam, Gardevoir
|}

==In the TCG==
The Psychic character design from the earliest games reappears in the {{TCG|Aquapolis}} expansion of the TCG on the {{TCG ID|Aquapolis|Seer|133}} card.

==In the manga==
A Psychic is one of the three trainers searching for {{p|Munchlax}} in [[DPA05|the fifth chapter]] of [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Adventure!]] She uses her psychic powers to sense Munchlax's presence but only manages to find [[Hareta]].

==Trivia==
*It is interesting to note that in Generation IV, the Psychic trainer class may use Ghost type pokemon, a weakness of the Psychic type. This may however be because of the fact that Ghost's are often seen as mystical.

==In other languages==
* '''French:''' ''Kinesiste''
* '''German:''' ''Psycho''
* '''Italian:''' ''Psiche''
* '''Korean:''' 초능력자 (''Choneungryeokja'')
* '''Spanish:''' ''Médium''

{{Template:Gen I trainers}}
{{stub|Character|Class}}
{{Project Class notice}}
[[Category:Trainer classes]]
[[Category:Psychic-type trainers]]
[[Category:Pokémon DP Adventure characters]]

[[de:Psycho (Trainerklasse)]]
[[ja:サイキッカー]]

Psychic (Trainer class)

2009-10-04T04:34:42Z

Minimag:

A '''Psychic''' (Japanese: '''サイキッカー''' ''Psychicker'') is a type of [[Pokémon Trainer]] that first debuted in the [[Generation I]] games. They were originally only male, but in [[Generation III]], female Psychics started to appear. They are depicted as boys or girls levitating [[Poké Ball]]s with their psychokinetic powers.

They obviously specialize in {{type2|Psychic}} Pokémon, and also in {{type2|Ghost}} Pokémon in [[Generation IV]].

==Appearance==

{| align="center" style="background: #{{Psychic color light}}; -moz-border-radius: 15px;"
|
{| align="center" style="background: #{{Psychic color}}; -moz-border-radius: 15px; border: 4px solid #{{Psychic color}};" colspan=4 cellspacing="2" cellpadding="2"
|- align="center"
! style="background: #{{Psychic color}};" colspan="5" | Psychic Sprites
|-
! style="background: #{{Psychic color light}}; -moz-border-radius-topcenter: 15px; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 15px; -moz-border-radius-topright: 15px;" | [[Image:GenIPsychic.png]]
! style="background: #{{Psychic color light}}; -moz-border-radius-topcenter: 15px; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 15px; -moz-border-radius-topright: 15px;" | [[Image:GSC_Psychic.png]]
! style="background: #{{Psychic color light}}; -moz-border-radius-topcenter: 15px; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 15px; -moz-border-radius-topright: 15px;" | [[Image:RSE_PsychicM.png]][[Image:RSE_PsychicF.png]]
! style="background: #{{Psychic color light}}; -moz-border-radius-topcenter: 15px; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 15px; -moz-border-radius-topright: 15px;" | [[Image:FL_PsychicM.png]][[Image:FL_PsychicF.png]]
! style="background: #{{Psychic color light}}; -moz-border-radius-topcenter: 15px; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 15px; -moz-border-radius-topright: 15px;" | [[Image:DP_Psychic_M.png]][[Image:DP_Psychic_F.png]]
|-
| align="center" style="background: #{{Psychic color light}}; -moz-border-radius-bottomright: 15px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft: 15px;" | ''Image from {{color2|000000|Pokémon Red and Blue Versions|Red and Blue}}''
| align="center" style="background: #{{Psychic color light}}; -moz-border-radius-bottomright: 15px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft: 15px;" | ''Image from {{color2|000000|Pokémon Gold and Silver Versions|Gold, Silver}}, and {{color2|000000|Pokémon Crystal Version|Crystal}}''
| align="center" style="background: #{{Psychic color light}}; -moz-border-radius-bottomright: 15px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft: 15px;" | ''Images from {{color2|000000|Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Versions|Ruby, Sapphire}}, and {{color2|000000|Pokémon Emerald Version|Emerald}}''
| align="center" style="background: #{{Psychic color light}}; -moz-border-radius-bottomright: 15px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft: 15px;" | ''Images from {{color2|000000|Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen Versions|FireRed and LeafGreen}}
| align="center" style="background: #{{Psychic color light}}; -moz-border-radius-bottomright: 15px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft: 15px;" | ''Images from {{color2|000000|Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|Diamond, Pearl}}, {{color2|000000|Pokémon Platinum Version|Platinum}}, {{color2|000000|Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions|HeartGold, and SoulSilver}}''
|}
|}

==Trainer List==
===Male===
====Pokémon Gold/Silver/Crystal====

{| class="expandable" {{bluetable|background: white; width: 100%}}
|- style="background: #ccf;"
! Name
! Pokémon
|-
| Psychic Franklin
| lv.37 Kadabra
|-
| Psychic Fidel
| lv.34 Xatu
|-
| Psychic Gilbert
| lv.30 Starmie, lv.30 Exeggcute, lv.34 Girafarig
|-
| Psychic Greg
| lv.17 Drowzee
|-
| Psychic Herman
| lv.30 Exeggcute, lv.30 Exeggcute, lv.30 Exeggutor
|-
| Psychic Jared
| lv.32 Mr. Mime, lv.32 Exeggcute, lv.35 Exeggcute
|-
| Psychic Mark
| lv.13 Abra, lv.15 Kadabra
|-
| Psychic Nathan
| lv.26 Girafarig
|-
| Psychic Norman
| lv.17 Slowpoke, lv20 Slowpoke
|-
| Psychic Phil
| lv.24 Natu, lv.26 Kadabra
|-
| Psychic Richard
| lv.36 Espeon
|-
| Psychic Rodney
| lv.29 Drowzee, lv.33 Hypno
|}

====Pokémon Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald====

{| class="expandable" {{bluetable|background: white; width: 100%}}
|- style="background: #ccf;"
! Name
! Pokémon
|-
| Psychic Alvaro (Emerald-only)
| lv.41 Banette, lv.41 Kadabra
|-
| Psychic Blake (Emerald-only)
| lv.36 Girafarig
|-
| Psychic Jaclyn
| ?
|-
| Psychic Cameron
| lv.31 Solrock lv.33 Kadabra, lv.33 Solrock lv.38 Kadabra, lv.38 Solrock lv.41 Kadabra, lv.41 Solrock lv.45 Solrock, lv.45 Alakazam
|-
| Psychic Cedric (Emerald-only)
| lv.32 Wobbuffet
|-
| Psychic Edward
| lv.15 Abra
|-
| Psychic Fritz (R/S-Only)
| lv.35 Natu, lv.35 Girafarig, lv.35 Kadabra
|-
| Psychic Joshua
| lv.41 Kadabra, lv.41 Solrock
|-
| Psychic Nicholas (Emerald-only)
| lv.36 Wobbuffet
|-
| Psychic Preston
| lv.36 Kirlia
|-
| Psychic Virgil
| lv.36 Ralts
|-
| Psychic William
| lv.26 Ralts, lv.26 Ralts, lv.26 Kirlia
|}

=====Emerald Battle Frontier=====
{| class="expandable" {{bluetable|background: white; width: 100%}}
|- style="background: #ccf;"
! Name
|-
| Psychic Norton
|-
| Psychic Lukas
|-
| Psychic Zach
|-
| Psychic Rolando
|-
| Psychic Stanly
|-
| Psychic Dario
|}

====Pokémon FireRed/LeafGreen====
{| class="expandable" {{bluetable|background: white; width: 100%}}
|- style="background: #ccf;"
! Name
! Pokémon
|-
| Psychic Johan
| lv.31 Kadabra, lv.31 Slowpoke, lv.31 Mr. Mime, lv.31 Kadabra
|-
| Psychic Tyron
| lv.34 Mr. Mime, lv.34 Kadabra
|-
| Psychic Cameron
| lv.33 Slowpoke, lv.33 Slowpoke, lv.33 Slowbro
|-
| Psychic Preston
| lv.38 Slowbro
|-
| Psychic Dario
| lv.52 Girafarig lv.56 Girafarig
|}

====Pokémon Diamond/Pearl====
{| class="expandable" {{bluetable|background: white; width: 100%}}
|- style="background: #ccf;"
! Name
! Pokémon
|-
| Psychic Bryce
| lv.43 Haunter, lv. 46 Alakazam, lv.46 Gengar
|-
| Psychic Corbin
| lv.53 Shuppet, lv.55 Duskull lv.58 Banette, lv.60 Dusclops
|-
| Psychic Deandre
| lv.56 Girafarig
|-
| Psychic Elijah
| lv.15 Abra
|-
| Psychic Kody
| lv.15 Meditite
|-
| Psychic Landon
| lv.56 Mr. Mime
|-
| Psychic Maxwell
| lv.52 Misdreavus, lv.54 Haunter lv.56 Misdreavus, lv.58 Gengar
|-
| Psychic Mitchell
| lv.23 Haunter, lv.23 Kadabra lv.38 Haunter, lv.42 Kadabra lv.58 Gengar, lv.58 Alakazam
|-
| Psychic Sterling
| lv.54 Baltoy, lv.58 Grumpig
|}
=====Diamond/Pearl Battle Tower=====
{| class="expandable" {{bluetable|background: white; width: 100%}}
|- style="background: #ccf;"
! Name
|-
| Psychic Jasper
|-
| Psychic Kolton
|-
| Psychic Stewart
|-
| Psychic Clyde
|-
| Psychic Gunner
|}

====Other====
{| class="expandable" {{bluetable|background: white; width: 100%}}
|- style="background: #ccf;"
! Place
! Name
! Pokémon
|-
| {{g|Stadium 2}}
| Psychic Mason
| Raichu, Clefable, Growlithe, Slowpoke, Natu, Smeargle Raichu, Arcanine, Hypno, Kangaskhan, Xatu, Smeargle
|-
| [[Battle Tower (Hoenn)|R/S Battle Tower]]
| Psychic Julian
| Random
|-
| [[Battle Tower (Hoenn)|R/S Battle Tower]]
| Psychic Quinn
| Random
|-
| [[Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Battle e: Series 1|Battle e Series 1]]
| Psychic Griffin
| lv.52 Banette, lv.54 Absol, lv.56 Dusclops
|-
| [[Trainer Tower|FR/LG Trainer Tower]]
| Psychic Lorenzo
| Hypno, Gengar
|-
| [[Trainer Hill|Emerald Trainer Hill]]
| Psychic Keenan
| Alakazam, Grumpig, Blissey
|}

===Female===
====Pokémon Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald====
{| class="expandable" {{bluetable|background: white; width: 100%}}
|- style="background: #ccf;"
! Name
! Pokémon
|-
| Psychic Alexis
| lv.41 Kirlia, lv.41 Xatu
|-
| Psychic Alix (Emerald-only)
| lv.26 Kadabra, lv.26 Kirlia
|-
| Psychic Brandi (Emerald-only)
| lv.17 Ralts
|-
| Psychic Hannah
| lv.36 Kirlia
|-
| Psychic Jacki
| lv.30 Kadabra, lv.30 Lunatone lv.34 Kadabra, lv.34 Lunatone lv.37 Kadabra, lv.37 Lunatone lv.40 Kadabra, lv.40 Lunatone lv.43 Lunatone, lv.43 Alakazam
|-
| Psychic Jaclyn
| lv.16 Abra
|-
| Psychic Kayla
| lv.26 Wobbuffet, lv.26 Natu, lv.26 Kadabra
|-
| Psychic Macey (Emerald-only)
| lv.36 Natu
|-
| Psychic Mariela (Emerald-only)
| lv.41 Chimecho
|-
| Psychic Marlene (Emerald-only)
| lv.18 Meditite, lv.18 Spoink
|-
| Psychic Maura
| lv.36 Kadabra
|-
| Psychic Samantha
| lv.36 Xatu
|-
| Psychic Terry (Unused data)
| lv.37 Girafarig
|}

=====Emerald Battle Frontier=====
{| class="expandable" {{bluetable|background: white; width: 100%}}
|- style="background: #ccf;"
! Name
|-
| Psychic Kaitlyn
|-
| Psychic Breanna
|-
| Psychic Kendra
|-
| Psychic Karlee
|-
| Psychic Jaylin
|-
| Psychic Ingrid
|}

====Pokémon FireRed/LeafGreen====
{| class="expandable" {{bluetable|background: white; width: 100%}}
|- style="background: #ccf;"
! Name
! Pokémon
|-
| Psychic Jaclyn
| lv.48 Natu, lv.48 Slowbro, lv.49 Kadabra lv.52 Natu, lv.52 Slowbro, lv.54 Kadabra
|-
| Psychic Rodette
| lv.48 Natu, lv.48 Drowzee, lv.50 Hypno lv.53 Natu, lv.53 Hypno, lv.53 Hypno
|-
| Psychic Laura
| lv.48 Natu, lv.48 Natu, lv.49 Xatu
|}

====Pokémon Diamond/Pearl====
{| class="expandable" {{bluetable|background: white; width: 100%}}
|- style="background: #ccf;"
! Name
! Pokémon
|-
| Psychic Abigail
| lv.22 Gastly, lv.23 Misdreavus, lv.24 Kadabra lv.37 Haunter, lv.39 Misdreavus, lv.38 Kadabra lv.58 Gengar, lv.57 Misdreavus, lv.59 Alakazam
|-
| Psychic Brittney
| lv.52 Medicham, lv.54 Alakazam
|-
| Psychic Chelsey
| lv.56 Xatu, lv.58 Mismagius
|-
| Psychic Daisy
| lv.51 Slowpoke, lv.55 Slowbro lv.56 Slowbro, lv.60 Slowbro
|-
| Psychic Desiree
| lv.54 Kadabra, lv.54 Kadabra
|-
| Psychic Kendra
| lv.53 Chingling, lv.55 Chimecho
|-
| Psychic Lindsey
| lv.15 Abra
|-
| Psychic Rachel
| lv.15 Psyduck
|-
| Psychic Valencia
| lv.44 Chingling, lv.48 Chimecho
|}

=====Diamond/Pearl Battle Tower=====
{| class="expandable" {{bluetable|background: white; width: 100%}}
|- style="background: #ccf;"
! Name
|-
| Psychic Melody
|-
| Psychic Aliyah
|-
| Psychic Tina
|-
| Psychic Clara
|-
| Psychic Alma
|}

====Other====
{| class="expandable" {{bluetable|background: white; width: 100%}}
|- style="background: #ccf;"
! Place
! Name
! Pokémon
|-
| [[Battle Tower (Hoenn)|R/S Battle Tower]]
| Psychic Eileen
| Random
|-
| [[Battle Tower (Hoenn)|R/S Battle Tower]]
| Psychic Gloria
| Random
|-
| [[Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Battle e: Series 1|Battle e Series 1]]
| Psychic Natasha
| lv.50 Starmie, lv.50 Salamence, lv.50 Sceptile
|-
| [[Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Battle e: Series 1|Battle e Series 1]]
| Psychic Judith
| lv.70 Alakazam, lv.72 Kecleon, lv.74 Linoone
|-
| [[Trainer Hill|Emerald Trainer Hill]]
| Psychic Edie
| Gengar, Alakazam, Gardevoir
|}

==In the TCG==
The Psychic character design from the earliest games reappears in the {{TCG|Aquapolis}} expansion of the TCG on the {{TCG ID|Aquapolis|Seer|133}} card.

==In the manga==
A Psychic is one of the three trainers searching for {{p|Munchlax}} in [[DPA05|the fifth chapter]] of [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Adventure!]] She uses her psychic powers to sense Munchlax's presence but only manages to find [[Hareta]].

==Trivia==
*It is interesting to note that in Generation IV, the Psychic trainer class may use Ghost type pokemon, a waekness of the Psychic type. This may however be because of the fact that Ghost's are often seen as mystical.

==In other languages==
* '''French:''' ''Kinesiste''
* '''German:''' ''Psycho''
* '''Italian:''' ''Psiche''
* '''Korean:''' 초능력자 (''Choneungryeokja'')
* '''Spanish:''' ''Médium''

{{Template:Gen I trainers}}
{{stub|Character|Class}}
{{Project Class notice}}
[[Category:Trainer classes]]
[[Category:Psychic-type trainers]]
[[Category:Pokémon DP Adventure characters]]

[[de:Psycho (Trainerklasse)]]
[[ja:サイキッカー]]

Rival

2009-10-04T04:27:24Z

Minimag:

:''For the [[Elite Four]] {{pkmn|Champion}} in {{eng|Pokémon Stadium}}, see [[Blue (game)]]''.
:''For the Japanese opening theme, see [[The Rivals]].''
----
[[File:Rival artwork.png|thumb|right|The first rivals]]
A '''Rival''' (Japanese: '''ライバル''' ''Rival'') is a type of [[Pokémon Trainer]] that first debuted in the [[Generation I]] games, and is a recurring opponent to the {{player}} throughout the game. It specifically refers to {{ga|Blue}} and {{ga|Silver}}. However, there are [[Pokémon]] Trainers who may not be formally described as rivals, but have characteristics reminiscent of those of Blue and Silver. These Trainers are the following: {{ga|Brendan}} or {{ga|May}}, depending on the player's [[gender]], as well as [[Wally]], in {{game2|Ruby|Sapphire|Emerald}}; and {{ga|Pearl}} in {{game|Diamond and Pearl|s}}. {{ga|Lucas}} and {{ga|Dawn}} (whichever the player is not) are sometimes said to be rivals; however, they never actually battle ''against'' the player.

Typically, rivals will be met by the player early in the game, usually around the time the player receives their [[starter Pokémon]]. In most games, the rival will also obtain a starter Pokémon, and will usually participate in the player's first [[Pokémon battle]] against a trainer. From then on, rivals will always be one step ahead of the player as the player moves through the story, meeting and battling the player at various points in the game with a progressively stronger and diversified [[party]]. Usually they must be defeated in order to continue the game; the most important of these battles happening either right before or during the player's challenge to the [[Elite Four]]. After the defeat of the [[Elite Four]] and the [[Pokémon Champion]], the rival can usually be battled at the player's leisure, but only at certain times with increasingly powerful Pokémon.

More often than not, they will have the starter Pokémon that weakens the one the player chose at the beginning of the game. The exceptions are Wally, who instead uses {{p|Ralts}} as his starter, and either Lucas or Dawn, of whom one uses the starter Pokémon that is actually weak to the player's choice. Since they are not rivals in the traditional sense, they are referred to as pseudo-rivals. They use a variety of Pokémon for the the remainder of their teams.

==Images==
===Main Rivals===
{| align="center" style="background: #88a; -moz-border-radius: 10px; border: 5px solid #88a"
|-
! style="background:#bebed1; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 5px;" | {{color2|000|Region}}
! colspan="6" style="background:#{{kanto color}}" | {{color2|{{kanto color dark}}|Kanto}}
! colspan="5" style="background:#{{johto color}}" | {{color2|{{johto color dark}}|Johto}}
! colspan="3" style="background:#{{hoenn color}}" | {{color2|{{hoenn color dark}}|Hoenn}}
! colspan="3" style="background:#{{sinnoh color}}; -moz-border-radius-topright: 5px;" | {{color2|{{sinnoh color dark}}|Sinnoh}}
|-
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color2|000|Pokémon game|Game}}
! style="background:#{{red color}}" | {{color2|{{red color dark}}|Pokémon Red and Blue Versions|R}}
! style="background:#{{green color}}" | {{color2|{{green color dark}}|Pokémon Red and Green Versions|G}}
! style="background:#{{blue color}}" | {{color2|{{blue color dark}}|Pokémon Blue Version (Japanese)|B}}
! style="background:#{{yellow color}}" | {{color2|{{yellow color dark}}|Pokémon Yellow Version|Y}}
! style="background:#{{firered color}}" | {{color2|{{firered color dark}}|Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen Versions|FR}}
! style="background:#{{leafgreen color}}" | {{color2|{{leafgreen color dark}}|Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen Versions|LG}}
! style="background:#{{gold color}}" | {{color2|{{gold color dark}}|Pokémon Gold and Silver Versions|G}}
! style="background:#{{silver color}}" | {{color2|{{silver color dark}}|Pokémon Gold and Silver Versions|S}}
! style="background:#{{crystal color}}" | {{color2|{{crystal color dark}}|Pokémon Crystal Version|C}}
! style="background:#{{heartgold color}}" | {{color2|{{heartgold color dark}}|Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions|HG}}
! style="background:#{{soulsilver color}}" | {{color2|{{soulsilver color dark}}|Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions|SS}}
! style="background:#{{ruby color}}" | {{color2|{{ruby color dark}}|Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Versions|R}}
! style="background:#{{sapphire color light}}" | {{color2|{{sapphire color dark}}|Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Versions|S}}
! style="background:#{{emerald color}}" | {{color2|{{emerald color dark}}|Pokémon Emerald Version|E}}
! style="background:#{{diamond color}}" | {{color2|{{diamond color dark}}|Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|D}}
! style="background:#{{pearl color}}" | {{color2|{{pearl color dark}}|Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|P}}
! style="background:#{{platinum color}}" | {{color2|{{platinum color dark}}|Pokémon Platinum Version|Pt}}
|- align="center"
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Name}}
| colspan="6" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Blue (game)|Blue}}
| colspan="5" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Silver (game)|Silver}}
| colspan="3" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Wally|Wally}}
| colspan="3" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Pearl (game)|Pearl}}
|-
! rowspan="3" style="background:#bebed1; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft: 5px;" | {{color|000|Sprite(s)}}
| align="center" style="background:#fff" colspan="3" | [[Image:RBBlue.png]]
| align="center" style="background:#fff" | [[Image:Y_Blue.png]]
| align="center" style="background:#fff" colspan="2" | [[Image:Blue1.png]]
| rowspan="3" align="center" style="background:#fff" colspan="2" | [[Image:Silver_Sprite_GS.gif]]
| rowspan="3" align="center" style="background:#fff" colspan="1" | [[Image:Silver_Sprite_C.gif]]
| rowspan="3" align="center" style="background:#fff" colspan="2"| [[Image:SilverHGSS.gif]]
| rowspan="3" align="center" style="background:#fff" colspan="3" | [[Image:Wally_game.PNG]]
| rowspan="3" align="center" style="background:#fff" colspan="2" | [[Image:Jun.png]]
| rowspan="3" align="center" style="background:#fff; -moz-border-radius-bottomright: 5px;" | [[Image:RivalPlatinum.gif]]
|-
| align="center" style="background:#fff" colspan="3" | [[Image:RB_Rival2.png]]
| align="center" style="background:#fff" | [[Image:Y_Blue2.png]]
| align="center" style="background:#fff" colspan="2" | [[Image:Blue2.png]]
|-
| align="center" style="background:#fff" colspan="3" | [[Image:RBChamp.PNG]]
| align="center" style="background:#fff" | [[Image:YellowChampionBlue.png]]
| align="center" style="background:#fff" colspan="2" | [[Image:FL_Blue.png]]
|}
{{-}}

===Pseudo Rivals===
{| align="center" style="background: #88a; -moz-border-radius: 10px; border: 5px solid #88a"
|-
! colspan="2" style="background:#bebed1; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 5px;" | {{color2|000|Region}}
! colspan="2" style="background:#{{johto color}}" | {{color2|{{johto color dark}}|Johto}}
! colspan="3" style="background:#{{hoenn color}}" | {{color2|{{hoenn color dark}}|Hoenn}}
! colspan="3" style="background:#{{sinnoh color}}; -moz-border-radius-topright: 5px;" | {{color2|{{sinnoh color dark}}|Sinnoh}}
|-
! colspan="2" style="background:#bebed1" | {{color2|000|Pokémon game|Game}}
! style="background:#{{heartgold color}}" | {{color2|{{heartgold color dark}}|Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions|HG}}
! style="background:#{{soulsilver color}}" | {{color2|{{soulsilver color dark}}|Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions|SS}}
! style="background:#{{ruby color}}" | {{color2|{{ruby color dark}}|Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Versions|R}}
! style="background:#{{sapphire color light}}" | {{color2|{{sapphire color dark}}|Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Versions|S}}
! style="background:#{{emerald color}}" | {{color2|{{emerald color dark}}|Pokémon Emerald Version|E}}
! style="background:#{{diamond color}}" | {{color2|{{diamond color dark}}|Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|D}}
! style="background:#{{pearl color}}" | {{color2|{{pearl color dark}}|Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|P}}
! style="background:#{{platinum color}}" | {{color2|{{platinum color dark}}|Pokémon Platinum Version|Pt}}
|- align="center"
! rowspan="2" style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Male}}
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Name}}
| colspan="2" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Gold (game)|Gold}}
| colspan="3" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Brendan (game)|Brendan}}
| colspan="3" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Lucas (game)|Lucas}}
|- style="background:#fff"
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Sprite}}
| align="center" colspan="2" | [[Image:HibikiHGSS.png]]
| align="center" colspan="2" | [[Image:Brendan.png]]
| align="center" | [[Image:BrendanE.png]]
| align="center" colspan="2" | [[Image:Koki.png]]
| align="center" | [[Image:Lucasplatinum.png]]
|- align="center"
! rowspan="2" style="background:#bebed1; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft: 5px;" | {{color|000|Female}}
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Name}}
| colspan="2" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Kotone (game)|Kotone}}
| colspan="3" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|May (game)|May}}
| colspan="3" style="background:#fff" | {{color2|000|Dawn (game)|Dawn}}
|-
! style="background:#bebed1" | {{color|000|Sprite}}
| style="background:#fff" align="center" colspan="2" | [[Image:KotoneHGSS.png]]
| style="background:#fff" align="center" colspan="2" | [[Image:May.png]]
| style="background:#fff" align="center" | [[Image:MayE.png]]
| style="background:#fff" align="center" colspan="2" | [[Image:Hikari.png]]
| align="center" style="background:#fff; -moz-border-radius-bottomright: 5px;" | [[Image:Dawnplatinum.png]]
|}
{{-}}

==In the anime==
[[Image:AG180.png|thumb|150px|May and her rivals]]
Various rivals for the {{Ashfr|main characters}} have also appeared in the {{pkmn|anime}}. Rivals in this sense refers to major recurring characters, as all of the main characters have had a "rival" who only appears in a single or few episodes that they eventually make up with. Examples include [[Morrison]] or {{jo|Harrison}}, while the major rivals are listed below.

*[[Ash Ketchum]] has had [[Gary Oak]] while [[Paul]] and [[Barry]] are currently his rivals. Many other characters also collect badges and may be counted as rivals in the future.
*{{an|May}} has had both [[Drew]] and [[Harley]]. [[Solidad]] may also qualify, as the two battled in [[Kanto Grand Festival]] and Solidad was seen with Drew and Harley watching May in the [[Wallace Cup]] on [[television]].
*{{an|Dawn}} has [[Zoey]], {{si|Kenny}} and [[Jessie]]. [[Nando]] may also qualify, though he and Dawn have yet to battle officially.
*[[Johanna]] had a childhood rival with [[Lila]].
*[[Brock]] had a friendly (and shortlived) rivalry with [[Suzy]].
*{{TR|Meowth}} has a rivalry with [[Giovanni]]'s {{TP|Giovanni|Persian}}.

===Trivia===
* Ash has captured a Pokémon belonging to each of his rivals. Both Gary and Ash captured {{p|Krabby}}, and Paul and Barry use a {{p|Gliscor}} and {{p|Staraptor}} respectively, matching up with Ash's current team.
* [[Harley]] is the oldest rival in the anime, being at the very least older than [[Brock]].
* Three of Ash's rivals each seem to be a parallel to each of Ash's female companions. Misty and Gary both have a bickering relationship with Ash; May and {{ho|Tyson}} are both known for their optimism and fondness for eating treats; Dawn and Barry both have mannerisms on capturing Pokémon of their likeness.
* [[Wally]] is the only rival to not have a sprite change.
* [[Wally]] bears a striking resemblance to [[Drew]].

{| align="center" border="0"
|-
| {{Rival characters}}
|-
| {{Template:Gen I trainers}}
|-
| {{Project Class notice}}
|}

[[Category:Trainer classes]]

[[fr:Rival]]
[[ja:ライバル]]

Feraligatr (Pokémon)

2009-09-29T05:20:26Z

Minimag:

{{PokémonPrevNext | type=water | prevnum=159 | nextnum=161 | prev=Croconaw | next=Sentret }}
{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Feraligatr |
jname=オーダイル |
tmname=Ordile |
image=160Feraligatr.png |
size=170px |
caption=Artwork from HG/SS |
pron=<sc>fer-''al''-i-gay-ter</sc> <ref>Izzo, Josh and Howze, Stephanie. ''The Official Pokémon Handbook #3''. Scholastic Publishing, 2001. ISBN 0-439-31747-9</ref> |
ndex=160 |
jdex=009 |
hdex=315 |
fdex=075 |
typen=1 |
type1=Water |
type2= |
species=Big Jaw |
height-ftin=7'07" |
height-m=2.3 |
weight-lbs=195.8 |
weight-kg=88.8 |
abilityn=1 |
ability1=Torrent |
ability2= |
egggroupn=2 |
egggroup1=Monster |
egggroup2=Water 1 |
eggcycles=20 |
evat=2 |
evde=1 |
expyield=210 |
lv100exp=1,059,860 |
gendercode=31 |
color=Blue |
catchrate=45 |
body=06 |
pokefordex=feraligatr |
generation=2 |
footnotes=}}
'''Feraligatr''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''オーダイル''' ''Ordile'') is a {{type2|Water}} [[Pokémon]].

It [[Evolution|evolves]] from {{p|Croconaw}} starting at [[level]] 30. It is the final form of {{p|Totodile}}.

==Biology==
===Physiology===
Feraligatr are big, bulky Pokémon, more used to swimming than to walking on land. When this Pokémon does venture out of water, it crawls on all fours in order to move faster. However, when they are hunting or fighting, they are surprisingly agile and fast. The fact that Feraligatr are cold-blooded Pokémon means that they need to be where they can adjust their body temperatures accordingly. Feraligatr have large, powerful jaws which are able to cause heavy damage. Feraligatr also have large scales on their arms, tails, and legs, the latter of which give the appearance of pockets.
====Gender differences====
None.

====Special abilities====
Feraligatr's jaws have the ability to lock in place like its pre-evolutions. In combination with their sheer muscle power, this ability can cause massive damage to a Pokémon.

===Behavior===

===Habitat===
[[Image:Watersedge.gif|right|frame|{{DL|List of Pokémon by habitat|Water's-edge Pokémon}}]]
Feraligatr are extremely rare in the wild. They live near water with the rest of their [[evolution]] family.

===Diet===
{{main|Pokémon food}}

Feraligatr are card-carrying carnivores. Their preferred hunting method is to hide underwater with only eyes and nostrils above the surface, waiting for prey to come to the water's edge. They attack with a sudden burst of speed and clamp their powerful jaws down on a surprised victim before it has time to react. Once the Feraligatr bites it will lock its jaws, and the prey will be secured. Then, the Feraligatr will violently shake its head and begin to tear off chunks of its prey to swallow.

==In the anime==
[[Image:Dp041_waniwani.jpg|thumb|right|[[Wani-Wani|Feraligatr]] in the anime]]
[[Ash's Snorlax]] battled against a Feraligatr belonging to [[Raiden]] in the [[Sumo Conference]] in ''[[EP194|The Ring Masters]]''.

[[Trinity]] battled a Feraligatr during the [[Whirl Cup]] in ''[[EP217|The Perfect Match!]]''.

A Feraligatr was also owned by [[Kinso]] in ''[[H005|The Blue Badge of Courage]]''.

A Feraligatr was used by one of the students of the [[Pokémon Trainer's School]] in ''[[AG015|Gonna Rule The School!]]''.

[[Wani-Wani]], now a Feraligatr, made a cameo in ''[[DP041|A Stand-Up Sit-Down!]]''.

[[Brock]] used a Feraligatr in the second leg of the Pokémon Triathlon in ''[[DP091|One Team, Two Team, Red Team, Blue Team!]]''.

===Pokédex entries===
{{Animedexheader|Johto}}
{{Animedexbody|EP194|Feraligatr|Ash's Pokédex|Feraligatr, the Big Jaw Pokémon. The final evolution of {{p|Totodile}}. Once a Feraligatr has clamped its powerful jaws around an opponent, it won't let go until the opponent is defeated.}}
{{Animedexfooter/Pokémon|original|Johto}}

==In the manga==
In [[Pokémon Special]], {{Special|Silver}}'s Croconaw evolved into {{TP|Silver|Feraligatr}} to protect {{Special|Gold}}, {{Special|Crystal}}, and himself from {{p|Lugia}}.

==In the TCG==
{{main|Feraligatr (TCG)}}

==In the TFG==
One Feraligatr figure has been released.

* {{TFG|Next Quest}}: {{TFG ID|Next Quest|Feraligatr|2}}

==Game data==
===NPC appearances===
* [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 1|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon]]: Feraligatr is a member of Team Hydro.

===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex
|type=water
|gen=2
|golddex=When it {{m|bite}}s with its massive and powerful jaws, it shakes its head and savagely tears its victim up.
|silverdex=It is hard for it to support its own weight out of water, so it gets down on all fours. But it moves fast.
|crystaldex=Although it has a massive body, its powerful hind legs enable it to move quickly, even on the ground.
|rubydex=Feraligatr intimidates its foes by opening its huge mouth. In battle, it will kick the ground hard with its thick and powerful hind legs to charge at the foe at an incredible speed.
|sapphiredex=Feraligatr intimidates its foes by opening its huge mouth. In battle, it will kick the ground hard with its thick and powerful hind legs to charge at the foe at an incredible speed.
|emeralddex=It opens its huge mouth to intimidate enemies. In battle, it runs using its thick and powerful hind legs to charge the foe with incredible speed.
|firereddex=It is hard for it to support its own weight out of water, so it gets down on all fours. But it moves fast.
|leafgreendex=When it bites with its massive and powerful jaws, it shakes its head and savagely tears its victim up.
|stadium2dex=When it bites with its massive and powerful jaws, it shakes its head and savagely tears its victim up.
|diamonddex=It usually moves slowly, but it goes at blinding speed when it attacks and bites prey.
|pearldex=It usually moves slowly, but it goes at blinding speed when it attacks and bites prey.
|platinumdex=It usually moves slowly, but it goes at blinding speed when it attacks and bites prey.
|}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability|
type=water |
gen=2 |
gsarea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Croconaw}} |
carea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Croconaw}} |
gen3ex=frlg|
frlgex=rse|
coloarea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Croconaw}} |
earea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Croconaw}} |
xdarea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Croconaw}} |
gen4ex=hgss|
hgssarea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Croconaw}} |
palarea=Mountain |
}}

====In side games====
{{SidegameAvail
|type=water
|trozei=Endless Level 27 Forever Level 76 Pair Trozei [[Mr. Who's Den]]
|md=[[Western Cave]] (49F-58F)
|ranger=[[Underground Waterways]]
|md2=[[End Lake]] (B1-B24)
}}

===Base stats===
{{BaseStats|
type=water |
HP= 85 |
Attack= 105 |
Defense=100 |
SpAtk= 79 |
SpDef= 83 |
Speed= 78 }}

===Type effectiveness===
{{DP Type effectiveness|
type1=water|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting=100 |
Flying= 100 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 100 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 100 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 50 |

Fire= 50 |
Water= 50 |
Grass= 200 |
Electric=200 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 50 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 }}

===Learnset===
{{evolved learnset intro|Feraligatr}}
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{movelist|water|water|4|2|Feraligatr}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Scratch|Normal|Physical|40|100|35|Tough|3}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Leer|Normal|Status|—|100|30|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Water Gun|Water|Special|40|100|25|Cute|3||'''}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Rage|Normal|Physical|20|100|20|Cool|0}}
{{mlentry4|6|Water Gun|Water|Special|40|100|25|Cute|3||'''}}
{{mlentry4|8|Rage|Normal|Physical|20|100|20|Cool|0}}
{{mlentry4|13|Bite|Dark|Physical|60|100|25|Tough|3}}
{{mlentry4|15|Scary Face|Normal|Status|—|90|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|21|Ice Fang|Ice|Physical|65|95|15|Cool|3}}
{{mlentry4|24|Thrash|Normal|Physical|90|100|20|Tough|2|||DP}}
{{mlentry4|24|Flail|Normal|Physical|—|100|15|Cute|2|||PtHGSS}}
{{mlentry4|30|Agility|Psychic|Status|—|—|30|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|32|Crunch|Dark|Physical|80|100|15|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|37|Slash|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Cool|3}}
{{mlentry4|45|Screech|Normal|Status|—|85|40|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|50|Aqua Tail|Water|Physical|90|90|10|Cute|3||'''|DP}}
{{mlentry4|50|Thrash|Normal|Physical|90|100|20|Tough|2|||PtHGSS}}
{{mlentry4|58|Superpower|Fighting|Physical|120|100|5|Tough|2|||DP}}
{{mlentry4|58|Aqua Tail|Water|Physical|90|90|10|Cute|3||'''|PtHGSS}}
{{mlentry4|63|Hydro Pump|Water|Special|120|80|5|Beauty|2||'''|DP}}
{{mlentry4|63|Superpower|Fighting|Physical|120|100|5|Tough|2|||PtHGSS}}
{{mlentry4|71|Hydro Pump|Water|Special|120|80|5|Beauty|2||'''|PtHGSS}}
{{movelist/note|4|water}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{movelisttm|water|water|4|2|Feraligatr}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM01]]|Focus Punch|Fighting|Physical|150|100|20|Tough|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM02]]|Dragon Claw|Dragon|Physical|80|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM03]]|Water Pulse|Water|Special|60|100|20|Beauty|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM05]]|Roar|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM06]]|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|85|10|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM07]]|Hail|Ice|Status|—|—|10|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM10]]|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|—|100|15|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM13]]|Ice Beam|Ice|Special|95|100|10|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM14]]|Blizzard|Ice|Special|120|70|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM15]]|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|5|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM17]]|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM18]]|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM21]]|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM23]]|Iron Tail|Steel|Physical|100|75|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM26]]|Earthquake|Ground|Physical|100|100|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM27]]|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM28]]|Dig|Ground|Physical|80|100|10|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM31]]|Brick Break|Fighting|Physical|75|100|15|Cool|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM32]]|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM39]]|Rock Tomb|Rock|Physical|50|80|10|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM40]]|Aerial Ace|Flying|Physical|60|—|20|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM42]]|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM43]]|Secret Power|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM44]]|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM45]]|Attract|Normal|Status|—|100|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM52]]|Focus Blast|Fighting|Special|120|70|5|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM56]]|Fling|Dark|Physical|—|100|10|Tough|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM58]]|Endure|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM59]]|Dragon Pulse|Dragon|Special|90|100|10|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM65]]|Shadow Claw|Ghost|Physical|70|100|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM68]]|Giga Impact|Normal|Physical|150|90|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM72]]|Avalanche|Ice|Physical|60|100|10|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM75]]|Swords Dance|Normal|Status|—|—|30|Beauty|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM78]]|Captivate|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM80]]|Rock Slide|Rock|Physical|75|90|10|Tough|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM82]]|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM83]]|Natural Gift|Normal|Physical|—|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM87]]|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM90]]|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM01]]|Cut|Normal|Physical|50|95|30|Cool|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM03]]|Surf|Water|Special|95|100|15|Beauty|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM04]]|Strength|Normal|Physical|80|100|15|Tough|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM05]]|Whirlpool|Water|Special|15|70|15|Beauty|0||'''|HGSS}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM06]]|Rock Smash|Fighting|Physical|40|100|15|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM07]]|Waterfall|Water|Physical|80|100|15|Tough|3||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM08]]|Rock Climb|Normal|Physical|90|85|20|Cool|2}}
{{movelist/note|4|water}}

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
{{eggmoves|water|water|4|2|Feraligatr}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Charmander}}, {{p|Charmeleon}}, {{p|Charizard}} {{p|Cubone}}, {{p|Marowak}} {{p|Lapras}} {{p|Omanyte}}, {{p|Omastar}} {{p|Kabuto}}, {{p|Kabutops}} {{p|Chikorita}}, {{p|Bayleef}}, {{p|Meganium}} {{p|Wooper}}, {{p|Quagsire}} {{p|Corsola}} {{p|Mudkip}}, {{p|Marshtomp}}, {{p|Swampert}} {{p|Corphish}}, {{p|Crawdaunt}} {{p|Relicanth}} {{p|Cranidos}}, {{p|Rampardos}} {{p|Shieldon}}, {{p|Bastiodon}}|AncientPower|Rock|Special|60|100|5|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Seel}}, {{p|Dewgong}} {{p|Kabuto}}, {{p|Kabutops}} {{p|Marill}}, {{p|Azumarill}} {{p|Empoleon}} {{p|Buizel}}, {{p|Floatzel}}|Aqua Jet|Water|Physical|40|100|20|Beauty|2||'''|HGSS}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Charmander}}, {{p|Charmeleon}}, {{p|Charizard}} {{p|Rhyhorn}}, {{p|Rhydon}}, {{p|Rhyperior}} {{p|Snorlax}} {{p|Larvitar}}, {{p|Pupitar}}, {{p|Tyranitar}} {{p|Treecko}}, {{p|Grovyle}}, {{p|Sceptile}} {{p|Exploud}} {{p|Corphish}}, {{p|Crawdaunt}} {{p|Walrein}} {{p|Turtwig}}, {{p|Grotle}}, {{p|Torterra}} {{p|Floatzel}} {{p|Garchomp}}|Crunch|Dark|Physical|80|100|15|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Charmander}}, {{p|Charmeleon}}, {{p|Charizard}} {{p|Dragonite}} {{p|Feraligatr}} {{p|Tyranitar}} {{p|Sceptile}} {{p|Aggron}} {{p|Gible}}, {{p|Gabite}}, {{p|Garchomp}}|Dragon Claw|Dragon|Physical|80|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Charmander}}, {{p|Charmeleon}}, {{p|Charizard}} {{p|Horsea}}, {{p|Seadra}}, {{p|Kingdra}} {{p|Lapras}} {{p|Dratini}}, {{p|Dragonair}}, {{p|Dragonite}} {{p|Larvitar}}, {{p|Pupitar}}, {{p|Tyranitar}}|Dragon Dance|Dragon|Status|—|—|20|Cool|0}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Delibird}} {{p|Abomasnow}}|Ice Punch|Ice|Physical|75|100|15|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Charmander}}, {{p|Charmeleon}}, {{p|Charizard}} {{p|Aron}}, {{p|Lairon}}, {{p|Aggron}} {{p|Prinplup}}, {{p|Empoleon}} {{p|Gible}}, {{p|Gabite}}, {{p|Garchomp}}|Metal Claw|Steel|Physical|50|95|35|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Slowpoke}}, {{p|Slowbro}}, {{p|Slowking}} {{p|Wooper}}, {{p|Quagsire}} {{p|Mudkip}}, {{p|Marshtomp}}, {{p|Swampert}} {{p|Relicanth}} {{p|Shellos}}, {{p|Gastrodon}}|Mud Sport|Ground|Status|—|—|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Psyduck}}, {{p|Golduck}} {{p|Poliwag}}, {{p|Poliwhirl}}, {{p|Poliwrath}}, {{p|Politoed}} {{p|Seel}}, {{p|Dewgong}} {{p|Mantine}} {{p|Lombre}}, {{p|Ludicolo}} {{p|Wingull}}, {{p|Pelipper}} {{p|Surskit}}, {{p|Masquerain}} {{p|Milotic}} {{p|Spheal}}, {{p|Sealeo}}, {{p|Walrein}} {{p|Piplup}}, {{p|Prinplup}}, {{p|Empoleon}} {{p|Bidoof}}, {{p|Bibarel}} {{p|Buizel}}, {{p|Floatzel}}|Water Sport|Water|Status|—|—|15|Cute|2}}
{{eggmoves/note|4|water}}

====By [[Move tutor|tutoring]]====
{{tutor|water|water|4|2|Feraligatr}}
{{mtentry4|Aqua Tail|Water|Physical|90|90|10|Cute|3||'''|no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|AncientPower|Rock|Special|60|100|5|Tough|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Dive|Water|Physical|80|100|10|Beauty|1||'''|no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Fury Cutter|Bug|Physical|10|95|20|Cool|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Headbutt|Normal|Physical|70|100|15|Tough|3|||no|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Hydro Cannon|Water|Special|150|90|5|Beauty|2||'''|yes|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Ice Punch|Ice|Physical|75|100|15|Beauty|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Icy Wind|Ice|Special|55|95|15|Beauty|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Mud-Slap|Ground|Special|20|100|10|Cute|3|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Outrage|Dragon|Physical|120|100|15|Cool|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Snore|Normal|Special|40|100|15|Cute|3|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Spite|Ghost|Status|—|100|10|Cute|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Superpower|Fighting|Physical|120|100|5|Tough|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Uproar|Normal|Special|50|100|10|Tough|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{tutor/note|4|water}}

====Special moves====

===Side game data===
{{Side game|
type=water |
ndex=160 |
Trozei=yes |
rarity=Rare |
Dungeon=yes |
body=1 |
rate=-33.9% |
area=Rub-a-Dub River |
P1=The strength in my jaws is tops in the world! |
P2=It's not looking good. I have only half my HP left. |
P3=It's all over... I don't have any strength left... |
PL=Level up for me! My jaws got a bit stronger! |
Partner=no |
Ranger=yes |
typeG=Water |
typeA=Water |
fieldpower=3 |
field=Crush |
loop=14 |
MinEXP=92 |
MaxEXP=177 |
browser=Feraligatr spits blobs of water so hard that they shatter even Boulders. |
Dungeon2=yes |
body2=1 |
rate2=-33.9% |
iq=E |
}}

===Evolution===
{{Evobox
|family=Normal
|sprite1=158
|name1=Totodile
|type1-1=Water
|evotype1=Level
|level1=18
|sprite2=159
|name2=Croconaw
|type1-2=Water
|evotype2=Level
|level2=30
|sprite3=160
|name3=Feraligatr
|type1-3=Water
}}

===Sprites===
{{Sprite|
type=water|
gen=2|
gender=none|
ndex=160|
name=Feraligatr|
}}

==Trivia==
* Feraligatr is the tallest final form of a [[starter Pokémon]], at 7 feet and 7 inches (2.3 meters).
** Feraligatr is also the starter that reaches its final form the earliest, doing so at level 30. Coincidentally, {{p|Totodile}} evolves into its secondary form, {{p|Croconaw}}, at level 18, the latest of any starter Pokémon, tied with {{p|Turtwig}} into {{p|Grotle}}.
*** Feraligatr is also the heaviest fully evolved {{type2|Water}} starter.
* The lack of a vowel between the T and R in Feraligatr is due to the ten character limit on Pokémon names, which also affects {{p|Victreebel}}.
* Feraligatr is the only Pokémon to have more than four syllables in its name, with five.
* Feraligatr's main sprite colour has changed quite a bit over the years. In Gold and Silver it is green, in Crystal it was changed to a dull shade of blue, in Ruby, Sapphire, Emerald, Firered, Leafgreen, Diamond and Pearl it is almost aqua, and in Heartgold and Soulsilver, it is turquiose.
===Origin===
Like {{p|Totodile}} and {{p|Croconaw}}, Feraligatr is a {{wp|crocodylia}}n. Appearance-wise, it's an {{wp|alligator}}. While {{p|Tyranitar}} vaguely resembles {{wp|Godzilla}}, Feraligatr resembles {{wp|Zilla}}.
====Name origin====
Feraligatr draws its name from a combination of ''feral'' (or possibly ''ferocious'') and ''{{wp|alligator}}''. Its Japanese name may contain 王 ''ō'', king, 皇 ''ō'', emperor, or 大 ''ō'', large, and ''dile'' is a reference to {{wp|crocodile}}s.

==In other languages==
*[[List of German Pokémon names|German]]: Impergator - Combination of ''imperial'' and ''alligator''.
*[[List of French Pokémon names|French]]: Aligatueur - From ''alligator'' and ''tueur'' (killer).
*[[List of Korean Pokémon names|Korean]]: 장크로다일 ''Jangkeurodail''

==External links==
{{PokémonPrevNext | type=water | prevnum=159 | nextnum=161 | prev=Croconaw | next=Sentret }}
{{Project Pokédex notice}}

[[de:Impergator]]
[[es:Feraligatr]]
[[fr:Aligatueur]]
[[ja:オーダイル]]
[[pl:Feraligatr]]
[[pt:Feraligatr (pokémon)]]

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My replies will go here, so make sure to be watching this page. If you're a first-time poster here, I'll leave a note on your talk page too. Next archive planned for October 1.... —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 12:11, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
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== See this ==

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| style="background: #e6e6ff; border-radius-topright: 10px; -moz-border-radius-topright: 10px; padding: 2px 10px;" | {{TP|Brock|Onix|Steelix}} ([[Brock]]) • {{TP|Misty|Starmie}} ([[Misty]]) • {{TP|Lt. Surge|Raichu}} ([[Lt. Surge]]) • {{TP|Erika|Gloom}} ([[Erika]]) • {{TP|Koga|Venomoth}} ([[Koga]])/Crobat ([[Janine]]) 
{{TP|Sabrina|Kadabra}}/Alakazam ([[Sabrina]]) • {{TP|Blaine|Magmar}} ([[Blaine]]) • {{TP|Giovanni|Persian}}/Nidoking? ([[Giovanni]])/<?> ({{ga|Blue}}) 
{{TP|Lorelei|Cloyster}} ([[Lorelei]]) • {{TP|Bruno|Onix}}/Machamp ([[Bruno]]) • Gengar ([[Agatha]]) • {{TP|Lance|Dragonite}} ([[Lance]])
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Poliwrath/{{TP|Chuck|Machoke}} ([[Chuck]]) • Steelix ([[Jasmine]]) • {{TP|Pryce|Piloswine}} ([[Pryce]]) • {{TP|Clair|Dragonair}}/Kingdra ([[Clair]]) 
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This is only the first two regions...working on it...how is it? [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 14:29, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
:Is it really necessary? —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:52, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
::Ehh...debatable for now... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 01:31, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

== Whoops ==

[[User:MisterE13/Sandbox|Here]], I figured out a little something that will work a little better. Sorry about that and thaks for everuthing.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 18:48, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
:Done. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:52, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
::Some new stuff on there now, got rid of some redirects and added Rotom and Castform clauses. BTW, yes I had made one final mistake on the Infobox which is now fixed in my Sandbox I'm 100% sure it will work now though (and Shaymin's page will be perfect{{tt|.|Muhahaha}})--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 01:01, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Which new stuff am I supposed to install? —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:13, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
::::Everything, its kind-of scattered in the first two so I suppose you could copy/paste. If that's no good, most of it was just redirect-avoiding (which I do believe is good). Other than that, it was just Rotom, Castform (and a slight Burmy) clauses.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 03:17, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::Query: What do the "improvements" actually do? Just sprite altering? —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:25, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::A lot of redirects to [[Forme differences]] are avoided (don't know if that's as important as I think it is), putting in 412 automatically inserts a little "Plant Cloak" (for Burmy), the TM one now allows for Rotom (complete with sprites and "Forme differences" links) and they both allow for Castform (links only, obviously). That's pretty much it I think.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 03:41, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::There are yet more last minute modifications in there now. Thanks for the trouble.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 07:20, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
As it turns out, I had made a small placement error. All better now :D.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 15:27, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
:There's something new in there now (no moveentries this time, I promise)--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 14:42, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

== Books ==

Hey Trom, should we start making articles about the Pokémon books? A couple I can name of the top of my head are: Pokémon pop quiz by Carli Entin, and Attack of the prehistoric Pokémon by Tracey West. Actually, could we just make it a project? I could put together a list before you decided if you want. Thanks Trom! -[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 03:43, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:Yeah, definitely go ahead with that. I wouldn't suggest a full-flown project just yet, but maybe we can organise something more formal once some work has actually been done. Tracey West doesn't even have an article yet, so that may be a good place to start. I've read a few of her novelizations (but don't own any), and recall a bibliography on the back. And of course, the internet may be a good resource as well. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:36, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
::[http://www.traceywest.com/biography.html This] and [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=safari&rls=en-us&q=tracey+west+biography&revid=1279369419&ei=_mZMSvfoCYbyMcvY1PYD&sa=X&oi=revisions_inline&resnum=0&ct=broad-revision&cd=4 this] look like a good place to start. I will help with the project if it's created. *wishing I still had all of the books I had by her* --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 07:54, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Wow, that first site looks great! I suppose I'll get started on that article, then. Unless you have already. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:59, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
::::I haven't. And of course that first site looks great. It's her official sight. (lol) --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 08:00, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::Hm. I should get some more sleep. I thought I was talking to the same person then.... D: —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:16, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::lol What's this "sleep" of which you speak? It's 2:20 am here and I'm not tired at all. And it has nothing to do with the Pepsi I'm drinking. *should probably shut up now**goes to edit my userpage a ton (but only one recorded edit, no worries) and possibly create a couple book pages* Should we do pages for [http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Pokemon-Pop-Quiz/Carli-Entin/e/9780439154062 the pop quiz book mentioned above], [http://www.paperbackswap.com/book/details/9780816765270-Pokemon+Activity+Book the activity book], [http://www.amazon.com/How-Draw-Pokemon-Tracey-West/dp/0439434408 the how to draw Pokémon book (by Tracey West)], and/or [http://www.amazon.com/Pokemon-Official-Collectors-Sticker-Book/dp/0439106591 the sticker book]? --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 08:29, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::How about you try and do the lot? Keep up the quality, though. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:44, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Okay. They might not be very good, as there isn't much important stuff to write about (I believe). --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 08:48, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

OK, thanks Trom. I can probably get my hands on a couple of the books but will start out with just a list of to-do stuff. Thanks again, and get yourself some sleep! –[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 16:36, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:Trom, I made a [[User:MasterKenobi/Project Books/To-do list| To-do list]] and have quite a bit more to add. I think, that I could probably make a project out of this if I get an OK. Here is the first book article, [[Island of the Giant Pokémon (book)]] but, I think to make it look a bit better we could use a template that includes the title, book cover image, pages, publication date, ISBN # (This one I think isn't really needed), and publisher. For the series books though we could make it like the anime or the manga where it links to the book before it and after it. -[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 19:22, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

== Quick question ==

Do you know how to link directly to a category on a userpage without it getting included and making it appear? I'm trying to extend list of (non talk) pages I've created on my userpage, but it won't show the category pages. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 08:37, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:{{template|cat}}. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:44, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
::Thanks! --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 08:51, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

== A Question ==

Three things (not all questions). First, how do you use special characters in the search boxes? Second, one of the pictures on your userpage doesn't display. Third, if there is supposed to be a Haunter pic on this page its not working and just says purplehaunter.png or something like that.--[[User:Swampert rox|Swampert rox]] 16:39, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
:The images are your problem, not mine. They all display for me. Try clearing your browser cache (Ctrl+F5). If, by special characters you mean the e-acute (é) you can either copy-paste from somewhere else, or you can type Alt+130. These can all be found in the character map for Windows. If you're on a Mac, I can't help you with that. There's probably a list on the internet of every special character ever created and the accompanying codes. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:49, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
::For Mac: The é is option-e-e. I use it all the time. Other symbols can be gotten by other option- combinations. All the letter keys plus have special chars. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 03:03, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
:::If you mean Alt + 1 + 3 + 0, it doesn't work. If that's not what you meant, what do I type?--[[User:Swampert rox|Swampert rox]] 21:19, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
::::I think he means to hold the Alt key and type 130 in that order, not all at once. I've never tried that method, though. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 21:22, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::Doesn't work (or do anything whatsoever).--[[User:Swampert rox|Swampert rox]] 14:58, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::Then something's up with your computer. I'd love to fix it, but... um.... yeah..... —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 05:18, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Alt+0233 can be used as an alternative for the e-acute. '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 05:20, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::::You have to use the numberpad to type the numbers, not the row at the top of the keyboard. If you are using a laptop which doesn't have a numberpad then you can buy a usb one quite cheaply, or just cope with the redirects that should have been created. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] 05:37, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::Most laptops have an Fn key anyway, which activates keys differently. It's what I use: I gotta hold Fn and Alt and hit jlm. é. Happy daaaaay! '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:08, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::That doesn't work for me either. Is there any alternative way for a laptop?--[[User:Swampert rox|Swampert rox]] 11:49, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

== Sorry again ==

Did I apologize for my behavior. I had not realized that I could not make other changes. I do not speak English well and I find it difficult to understand at times. Sorry again for my ignorance. --[[User:Brendon|Brendon]] 8.35, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

== yukushi wisdom ==
Thanks for your help. Actually, since I don't edit much in Bulbapedia, I was considering canceling my account. That's why I was editing. I didn't realise that I was doing it in my fake name lol but anyways thaks for everything. {{SUBST:User:Uxie wisdom/sig}} 23:57, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
:Accounts can't be canceled, unfortunately. Just go away and never come back :P If you want those subpages you blanked deleted, I can handle that for you. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:07, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

== Slight problem ==

Well, it's not really a problem but, Trombony, I might need an option of no image (in which cse we might wanna colspan it). See [[Cissy]] to get what I mean. Many thanks. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 00:23, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
:It shouldn't be too hard to get an image. I'll dig around, watch the episode and get good screenshots. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:58, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
::Yes, of course we can get the image. But the template is gonna be in a much wider use, and we're gonna have a lot of similar cases... But yeah, it's not too bad, just leaves some whitespace. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 10:21, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
::Well I see that that's already fixed, but a few other things (sorry I'm being difficult, but I demand perfection :)), when you get the time: first, there's the subject of nicknamed Pokémon, like [[Ritchie]]'s. I don't want the image caption to read "Ritchie's Sparky", I want it to read "Sparky", and the same for the main article link.
::Second: Apparently I need the number of "="s on the section headers to be changeable. In most articles it should be the way you did it, but in some I need it to be one level lower.
::Last but not least - check what happens if someone clicks the "edit" link in one of the sections... Is that supposed to be like that? --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 11:25, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
::: *clicks edit* woah! Yeah, not good. We can fix that with a NOEDITSECTION magicword. We can set the image to default as noimage; although imageneeded may be better than a white gap. I'll add an optional parameter such as {{{nick}}}, which should hopefully override the current hovercaption formatting. There can also be optional parameters for lower headings. Can you show me an example of where that would be in place? It won't help the construction of the template; I'm just curious. :P
:::You probably didn't understand a word of that. Probably because I made up most of the terminology. Lol. I doubt I'll catch you on AIM this weekend so I'll either work through it when I have time, or catch up with you later. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:29, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
::::Yeah, the reason I'm writing to you here is because we keep missing each other on AIM lately, and I figured it's best to let you know... So, here we go:
::::# The way you just canceled the section headers is no good. The reason I wanted section headers is because [[Casey's Elekid]], [[Drew's Absol]], etc, redirect to that specific Pokémon in the template. Get it? So put back the sectionheaders with that nice magicword of yours, please.
::::# Seems like {{u|Sol}} took care of the image thing for now.
::::# The {{{nick}}} parameter sounds great. Do it.
::::# Lower heading would come in case that the character exists in more than one media, AND has Pokémon not on hand. Why? Because then the headings go: <nowiki>==In the anime==, ===Pokémon===, ====On hand====,</nowiki> and just THEN the Pokémon should be. {{Gary}} is the best example I can think of right now.
::::So you see Trombodude, you're underestimating my comprehension skills. I understand you kiwi wiki terminology just fine. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 12:27, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::The problem with the magicword, I later realised, is that it will cancel all section headers for the entire page. I think I may have an idea for the headings, too. I'll experiment, and get back to you later in the week. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:23, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::Believe it or not Tromizard, but I actually managed to code everything myself ^^; so, no worries. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 21:58, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

== HGSS ==

* Can you add something to the [[Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver|HGSS]] page saying something about the game containing both leafy trees and autumn trees? --[[User:swampert_rox|Swampert]] [[Swampert (Pokémon)|=]] [[User talk:Swampert_rox|awesome]] ([[User:PhoenixGraphix#{{ucfirst:Daily (bleh)}}|bl]][[Special:Random|eh]]) 19:28, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

== Redirects ==

Please be a bit more careful when trying to turn articles into redirects. I had to restore the article on [[Camerupt Point]] you had changed into a redirect because you made it redirect to Camerupt Point, hence causing an infinite redirect loop. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 23:12, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
:Whoops; it was meant to go to [[Camerupt Mountain]]. Confuzzling :( —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:14, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

== Pokémon Black Market ==

If the article was full of speculation and all that, then slap a cleanup tag on it instead of deleting it! The Pokémon Black Market is a factual part of the Pokémon universe and thus is worthy of its own article. Could you restore it, please? [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 23:28, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
:They'd be nothing left if all the speculation was removed. All you'd have left to say would be "The Pokémon black market is a black market for Pokémon which was talked about in DPxyz." I don't consider that to be article-worthy. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:29, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
::There's also the fact about Snorunt being worth top dollar on it. Besides, it's not like the speculation in question was baseless. If Glalie was worth as much as or more than Snorunt on the market, the hunter would've just sold his own Glalie, rather than going to the trouble of snatching Snorunt. If Carnivine, Yanmega, Pikachu, Chimchar, or Buneary were worth as much as or more than Snorunt, then the hunter would've tried to take them as well. If anything, that could be confined to a trivia section. Plus, there's [[Dustox Flower Field|much worse]] in the way of stubs. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 23:36, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
:::I didn't say it wasn't baseless; in fact I think they are perfectly reasonable assumptions. However, they remain just that. Perhaps the hunter hadn't realised that he could have sold Glalie, or perhaps he was sentimentally attached to it, or perhaps he just got a thrill from stealing Pokémon. These things are as unknown as the conclusions you have jumped to. If the information about Snorunt isn't mentioned on {{p|Snorunt|this page}} I'd suggest putting them there.
:::And yes, there are millions of stubs out there, and we are doing our best to clean them up (hence "featured stub" on the main page). It'd be great if you could give us a hand. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:40, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
::::It's not that I wouldn't love to, it's half the time I find a stub, I usually don't know too much information what that can be added to it. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 23:49, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
== Talk archive image ==
See what's in <nowiki></nowiki>'s. Just thought it might be easier for ya.--'''[[User:Immewnity|''Mew'']] [[User talk:Immewnity|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|Immewnity]]''' was here at 01:34, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
:Amazing. No more pretend transparent! Cheers. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:03, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

== Edit again ==

Sorry, but I missed something with that change in {{template|bulbanews}}. See [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Bulbanews&curid=78999&diff=815279&oldid=815276 this]. Thanks. [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 02:16, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
:Done. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:41, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

== Thank you ==

Thanks for blocking I am Missingno. I annoys me so much when people mess up pages, especially an entire page. Anyway, thanks for putting a stop to the vandalism. --[[User:RiverAura|*River*]] [[User_Talk:RiverAura|*Aura*]] 20:52, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
:That's ok. I hadn't planned to pop in today, but I'm glad I did. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:53, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
::I would also like to extend my gratitude for quick action. He also touched both of our userpages. If you want, you can clear my history of the vandalism. Thanks again. By the way, the line I put for "Get off this wiki!" is a pun of Steve Wilkos telling bad guests "Get off my stage!" Just a thought. --[[User:Rockersk08|rock]][[User talk:Rockersk08|ersk]][[Special:Contributions/Rockersk08|08]] 20:56, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Both done. Thanks to all involved. Now, move along, folks. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:02, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
:::: I forgot to mention {{p|Pikachu}} Sorry about that. --[[User:Rockersk08|rock]][[User talk:Rockersk08|ersk]][[Special:Contributions/Rockersk08|08]] 21:04, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

== Trom old boy, ==

How do you set the size of the table of contents? Places like {{m|Double-Edge}} are getting a bit out of hand.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 03:01, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
:I don't know if it's possible to do that. You can set your preferences up, however, to autohide all TOCs. It's under Misc. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:05, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
::Oh, yours seemed squished (maybe its just your big purple box). Should I just not write "Gale of Darkness" then?--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 03:07, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Oh, yeah, it's just been squished. I guess you could put it into an invisible table and set the width there... but that'll just make extend downwards further, which would be worse, IMO. Don't abbreviate the game name too far. Aside from the fact that it takes up my whole screen, there's no huge problem. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:10, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
::::PK, just realized I can take out "Pokémon" #2 :D.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 03:11, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

== Chuck Norris ==

Username similar, just swapped the first few letters...how about it? Remove or keep? [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 03:20, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
:Give him a chance, probably just a coinicidence; who wouldn't want to be named after the world's greatest human being?--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 03:22, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
::I heard MediaWiki blocking powers don't work on Chuck Norris. IDK about his fanboys, so let's leave him for now. Don't want to break the server or anything. Chances are he won't do anything. If he does, we can jump him then. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:23, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
::: You guys wouldn't be talking about me, would you? Considering that ht14 posted about 12 minutes after I joined, I would say that's likely. Well, if you are talking about me, don't worry, I'm not a n00b, all I want to do is give back to the website which has helped me so much when playing through the Pokémon games. I'm not new to Wikis either; I'm a member on Wikipedia, and I've even almost entirely rewritten an article there ({{wp|Whirled}}), and edited a few others. [[User:Nuck Chorris|Nuck Chorris]] 04:27, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

::::I don't see a problem. Use your own judgement on this one, trom, since it's on your TP, but it's clearly not an ''impersonation''. --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 04:30, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::Impersonating {{u|Chuck Norris}}? Or {{wp|Chuck Norris}} himself? Is {{u|Chuck Norris}} a high-standing member? If so, I apologize for any apparent impersonation, all I did was I checked to see if I'd already registered here by looking for usernames beginning with "Nuck". Also, Trom, I can say from experience that the banhammer works on me, considering I have felt its wrath on Kingdom of Loathing. Don't worry, it was for taking a controversial debate too far. I doubt the banhammer would work on Chuck Norris himself, though. Even if it did, I woudn't want to try it on him. He'd probably be standing right behind you, in the middle of roundhousing you, even before the banhammer was swung. WATCH OUT FOR HIM!!!! —– [[User:Nuck Chorris|Nuck Chorris]] ([[User talk:Nuck Chorris|talk]]) 05:11, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

::::::The real one. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 05:21, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::I live in fear of him every day. Speaking of which, he's right behind me right now! Holy S***!!! Oh, wait... thats just the back of my chair. Nevermind... False alarm... Anyways, I've got more maps to work on now, so carry on without me. —– [[User:Nuck Chorris|Nuck Chorris]] ([[User talk:Nuck Chorris|talk]]) 05:41, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

== Why? ==

Do you removed the image of Twinleaf Town from Platinum.[[User:Mario136|Mario136]] 18:51, 30 July,2009 (UTC)
:Despite the fact that it's from the latest game, it was of a lower quality and had giant arrows on it. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 19:46, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

== Equivalent to Wikipedia's {{wp|Template:Superseded-Image}}? ==

Trom – since you were the one who welcomed me, and you seem to be fairly active and helpful – do you know if Bulbapedia has an equivalent to Wikipedia's {{wp|Template:Superseded-Image}}? I uploaded a higher-quality map for [[Eterna Forest]] ([[a:Image:EternaForest.png]]), but the old one still exists (Image:Eterna Forest.png). On Wikipedia, I know you'd just tag the old image with {{wp|Template:Superseded-Image}}, but as I can't find that or something similar on Bulbapedia or Bulbagarden Archives, I don't know what to do. Any ideas? [[User:Nuck Chorris|Nuck Chorris]] 04:33, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
:Nah, you'd just mark it for deletion and say in the edit summary that you uploaded a better one. Which image is this? I'll get it for you.--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[User talk:RexRacer|Racer''']] 04:35, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
::Haha, just saw you linked it.--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[User talk:RexRacer|Racer''']] 04:36, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
::: Thanks! I assume I use <nowiki>{{delete}}</nowiki> to mark it for deletion, right? —– [[User:Nuck Chorris|Nuck Chorris]] ([[User talk:Nuck Chorris|talk]]) 05:02, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Yep.--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[User talk:RexRacer|Racer''']] 05:41, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

== Code help ==

Since you've already been so helpful in reducing my signature to nothing more that purple writing, I should ask how you get a coloured background on your userpage :P thanks in advance --[[User:Dragon Master|'''Dragon]]''' [[User talk:Dragon Master|'''Master]]''' 12:43, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
:[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Dragon_Master&diff=prev&oldid=822131 Replied] on your talk page. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:15, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

== Re:Signature ==
thanks! it works now!--[[User:Rotom45|Rotom]][[User Talk:Rotom45|Let me get the lawnmower!]] 01:59, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
:[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rotom45&diff=prev&oldid=822132 Replied] on your talk page. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:15, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

dont worry. i'll follow Bulbapedia's rules and respect it's policy!--[[User:Rotom45|Rotom]][[User Talk:Rotom45|Let me get the lawnmower!]] 02:16, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

== Idea ==

Since I'm not very good at coding, I thought I could give you an idea; the big list of moves on the [[List of moves|List of moves article]] could possibly be reconstructed on the [[Contest category| Contest category article]], but with only move name and contest type (without power, accuracy, fughting type, etc.) Do you think that is a good idea and would you be able to do that/find someone to do that? If not I can have a go, but as I say, I'm not very knowledgable in that area. Thanks --[[User:Dragon Master|'''Dragon]]'''[[User talk:Dragon Master|'''Master]]''' 09:11, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
:I've been working on compiling a list similar to the one near the bottom of, say {{t|Rock|this page}}, for contests. It's largely incomplete and in [[User:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/Hell|a sandbox]]. This is largely a copy-and-paste job from the moves' individual articles designed to tidy up articles like [[Cool Contest]], so feel free to chip in if you want. I haven't touched it for about half a year... —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 11:44, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

== Undoing my changes. ==

I was wondering why some Pokémon pages auto-forward, and some don't. Help?
--[[User:FromCrimsonToWool|FromCrimsonToWool]] 03:07, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:We call it ''redirecting''. If a Pokémon exists in another media, typically the anime (e.g. [[Ash's Pikachu]]) or manga (e.g. [[Poochyena (CCP)]]), the page doesn't redirect and serves as a ''disambiguation''. This is done because if someone searches for, say, Bulbasaur, they may be looking for {{OP|Ash|Bulbasaur}}, {{OP|May|Bulbasaur}}, [[Saur|one from the manga]], or simply the {{p|Bulbasaur|species}}. Think of it as kind of a signpost. Not all Pokémon are special enough though (e.g. [[Paras]]), so they don't have the disambiguation page as searchers will clearly be looking for the article about the species. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:13, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Okay, so how, and thus where, do we all draw the line? Also, why not just include a link at the top of the pokémon page for something like that?--[[User:FromCrimsonToWool|FromCrimsonToWool]] 03:30, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:Generally if a Trainer's Pokémon has an article, the Pokémon page gets disambiguated. This is our system, and this is how it's worked for a couple of years. There was a poll about this less than two years ago, when the users had the chance to vote about this. For [[Bulbapedia talk:Disambiguation poll|many reasons]], this is what we came up with. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:38, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
::That is an argument that has gone on since the beginning. It was decided that changing it would upset more people than it does keeping it the same. It would also make soooo many things much harder. It is something that is set in stone, and will never change. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 03:38, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
Hokay. Thanks. I just kind of figured that there would have been more support for it to be the other way around, as in more game centric.--[[User:FromCrimsonToWool|FromCrimsonToWool]] 03:51, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

== Brendan ==

Holy crap man... you just helped more than you know, doing those party templates. I was gonna try to get them done in the next few days, and you just made my life easier. I know that you didn't make any mistakes other than that one getting the Pokémon mixed up, but I'm gonna go over it once more tomorrow just for yucks. Seriously though, thanks. x-x '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 04:11, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:If there was something wrong, it'll have been wrong on May's page too. It was a direct copy-paste. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 05:25, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

::Crappit. *checks May* Yeah... oh well. Fixed now. Still, thanks for that. Oops. And I forgot, Brendan has a slightly different team than May. I'll change that too... '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 19:00, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:::Different? Really? How odd. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:06, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

::::Don't worry about it. I shoulda caught it last night, but I had just gotten home from the airport a few hours earlier. That's my fault, not yours. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 20:23, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

== ABC ==

Sorry about all this constantly running-ideas-by-you thing, but I just dont yet feel its my place to go changing Bulbapedia without guidance. Anyway, do you think the list on [[List of game characters|this page]] should be alphebatised? If so, let me know on [[User talk:Dragon Master| my talk page]] and I'll get right on to it...Thanks--[[User:Dragon Master|'''Dragon]]'''[[User talk:Dragon Master|'''Master]]''' 07:21, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:That's already. I enjoy being able to help. The answer is "Nope". It appears to be on an importance-first basis. It's fine as is. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:05, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

::I've got one, mostly for my education. Would this question have been better placed on the Talk tab of said page?--[[User:FromCrimsonToWool|FromCrimsonToWool]] 10:15, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

:::Well, yeah, if you wanna get all literal on me... :P --[[User:Dragon Master|'''Dragon]]'''[[User talk:Dragon Master|'''Master]]''' 12:09, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Actually, now I look and think about it, the more it seems like the list is in order of which comes first and when you meet them etc. --[[User:Dragon Master|'''Dragon]]'''[[User talk:Dragon Master|'''Master]]''' 12:10, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::FCTW: That's the way talk pages are meant to function. However, an article that obscure may not get noticed. I personally have no problem with people bringing things up on my talk page. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:06, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::Got it, thank you. {{unsigned|FromCrimsonToWool}}

==Shinx Comment==
I was trying to see if anyone thought it was interesting enough to put in trivia, not chatting it up. --[[User:Crystal_Shards|'''Crystal Shards''']] 16:52, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:Either way, X looks like Y trivia is an opinion. That kind of thing isn't allowed, because two people may see things differently. We try and be objective. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:06, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
::Could have explained that earlier instead of just taking it out. --[[User:Crystal_Shards|'''Crystal Shards''']] 22:42, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:::That's how things get done here. Unacceptable comments are removed, to prevent people abusing the talk page for discussion about the subject of the article, rather than its content. This is all explained in that lovely green welcome on the top of your usertalk page. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:58, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Yeah I read that; thanks anyway. Too bad we just had a different definition of "unacceptable" at that point in time. --[[User:Crystal_Shards|'''Crystal Shards''']] 01:35, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

== Template ==

I've created a template {{template|HeldItems}}. I need work on a parser, the Gen I one. After that, we can all insert the stuff accordingly. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 21:02, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
:Once that's done, I'll organize the held items according to items (category). [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 21:03, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
::Final thing. I also need another section for Pokemon with 2 possible held items. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 21:05, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
:::Sorry Trombonator, I couldn't sleep and felt the need to handle this one (with a little help from {{u|TTEchidna|a certain echidna}}). {{unsigned|MisterE13}}
::::Sigh... clearly you guys totally missed the fact that I'd already created one... template:held item... —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:54, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::Ironic how I even posted on that template talk page... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 01:49, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::And in its section on my third talk archive. Seeing as it's apparently nicer, I've unprotected it to allow you to make any changes you wish. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:51, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Cool....Gen II has weird percentages though...8%...I dunno how to handle that... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 01:53, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Are they standard, or different per Pokémon? If they are the same we can have it set up to use the tt template. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:54, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Seems to be different unfortunately...Sacred Ash/Leftovers for instance for Ho-oh/Snorlax. 100%. Speaking of which...Numel and Vulpix are 100% also...so scratch that. That method isn't that great... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 01:59, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::There is a clause in there for 100%. Or, at least, I had one drafted. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:00, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:Oh. Did you see the ones where I used the template? As of now though, just protect it. I'm not the greatest with tables... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 02:02, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::I've actually been doing some work on ht's. Unfotunately, I think third versions can be different than the other two. Should we seperate?--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 02:03, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:::Umm...not only that...Elekid and Magby...though minor problem. More major issue may be images and redirects...Stardust... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 02:05, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Images should all have standard filenames. If you spot any more that aren't, let me know. The D/P mismatch could potentially be solved with a footer. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:12, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::Right...Nugget? Also...berries...most of the held items are berries. With the format right now...t's not linking to it... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 02:15, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::Yes, nuggets and berries are now named correctly. The correct filename is File:Bag Name Sprite.png. I like what MisterE13 did with the itemtype. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:19, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Sorry and thanks...Soft Sand...Poison Barb...type-enhancing items...all right. Just protect it...I can't take this right now... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 02:20, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::::They got done a while ago. I've decided to leave it open. MisterE or tc may want to play. If anyone else wants to take a stab, be my guest. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:23, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:Right. One last thing. Can you categorize the Template:Held item/100 as {{cat|Pokémon with wild held items}}. Thanks for everything. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 02:28, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::Way ahead of you there. :P —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:29, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:::XD Problem...as I was saying before...Sentret...Berry leads to Berries, which is what we're not talking about here... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 02:32, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Last thing. GSC didn't have sprites... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 02:33, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::Just finished fixing. Actually, I'm doing a lot of work on it right now so you might want to wait a bit before asking fo anything else :).--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 02:41, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::OK. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 02:44, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::: *hopes it's not too late* Shards. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 03:09, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Yellow and Red are fine but the others were uploaded in .gif format. If you can fix that (you were the original uploader, after all), tag the old ones with {{template|delete}} and replace the links. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:11, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::Done. So it'll be <nowiki>[[Image:Bag_<color>_Shard_Sprite.png]]</nowiki>. Unless you want to move it and make it simpler that is... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 03:21, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
I've started a three step plan I conceived last night to perfect this template. I just need to know if there are any version-exclusives other than the Light Ball in Gen I, the Soul Dew in Gen III, and the Magmarizer/Electrizer in Gen IV? This would include any item with different rates or found on a different Pokémon.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 18:34, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
::I would think that's it. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 18:51, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
:::It's done you know, does anyone need a walkthrough?--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 02:46, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
::::I can probably figure it out. If you haven't, though, you should post it noincluded on the template page so when we are dead and gone and the fourteenth generation is being released, the Bulbapedians of the future can figure it out. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:14, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::LOL to that. If the world lasts that long anyway... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 19:38, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

== News Page discussion ==

Hey trom, I made a comment here (http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Many_features_to_return_to_HeartGold,_SoulSilver) about the latest news from CoroCoro magazine when you get a chance. Provided a bit of translation to clear up any speculation/confusion. :)

Also, how the hell do you sign comments on here. :| {{unsigned|Gimmetokyo}}

:Use <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. Either type them, or use the thing under the text box. Both of them work. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 18:39, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

== I am sorry! ==

I won't do it again. But I get back soon.--[[User:Pokelover195|Pokelover195]] 20:38, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
:{{wp|Little Britain|Computer says no}}. You abused our trust. You have to earn it back. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:39, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
Ok. I agree. --[[User:Pokelover195|Pokelover195]] 23:04, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

But how can I earn it back? --[[User:Pokelover195|Pokelover195]] 19:16, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
:You need to edit the articles. Any page that doesn't have a prefix in front of it, like {{p|Pikachu|this one}}, [[Wiki Berry|this one]], [[Route 103|this one]] or [[Special:Random|this one]]. Start with what you know, and go from there. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:04, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

== Hey Trom! ==

Did you have a sandbox. or not on your userpage. Because I want to check out user's Sandbox. --[[User:Pokelover195|Pokelover195]] 21:08, 9 August 2009 (UTC)-
:Nope. To be honest, you don't need one; you are currently unable to edit any pages in the userspace (that is to say, any page prefixed by <code>User:</code>). In any regard, a sandbox is just a testing area. People have different things in them depending on what they are working on. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:12, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

What is a sandbox? --[[User:Pokelover195|Pokelover195]] 22:51, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
:If you'd read my previous reply you'd understand that a sandbox is a testing area where people can try out new templates or coding. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:52, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

== Random thing ==

For berries on the actual berries page, should we leave it the way it is or use sprites from [http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/rsberryspr.html here]? It's for consistency with the e-Reader berries. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 03:59, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:Ask the {{u|RexRacer|Project Leader}}. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 09:19, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

==*space reserved for Arceus99*==
Hey Dark Lord i didn't delete ur page or anything it must have been my younger brother he seems to hack into my account easily
anyway i apologize -Arceus99
:guys belive me i dint edit ur page my brothers a computer geek
Arceus99
::I suggest you get a password he can't guess then. If we see you removing stuff again, the account will be blocked, regardless of who did it. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:13, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

ok-arceus99

== Arceus and the Jewel of Life ==

Just because you're a sysop doesn't mean you can disregard the rules and revert confirmed and relevant edits. --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 22:02, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:I haven't disregarded any rules. The page was undergoing an edit war, and as per our procedures it has been left at its original state. As you are no doubt aware there is a discussion on the talk page. This was going on before you jumped in, and is still now. The rename will take place once an outcome has been established. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:37, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

== Cause you getting on AIM would be pointless... ==

If we tie again, does this mean I can revert you? Or can't I since you're basically above me in the power rank? Oh, and I need to ask you something as well. Can you roundy-ify the CharacterInfoBox stuff please? There's a lot to it and you're the only one who I'd ask to do it because I like making you work and I can't really touch the stuff, and cause I don't know how to round-ify stuff...--[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 01:32, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
:You're right, it would be. You can revert if you want to. I thought about it, but didn't want to fill up the newbie's inbox. What kind of color scheme you looking at? —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:38, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
::Well, I was actually kinda particular for a categorization thing going. Like 4 colors, one for each generation, which also categorizes them by the color into generation, ie Mr. Stone having a red color and having all red color ones categorized into Gen 3 characters. However, if it isn't possible to do that, just make them all how they were and just roundy-ify them, please. :D. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 01:43, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
:::We can do that! Just name the color schemes. The only problem atm is that anime and manga use the same template. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:45, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Hm...Well, that might be a problem...Uh...if anything I'd like them of course to be "color name" color light, but I'd go with yellow, crystal, emerald and platinum perhaps for respective generational debut...If not, tell me which ones would be a problem...--[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 01:56, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

== Pokemon Diamond ==

What!? You didnt complete the national dex in diamond!? I have pearl,diamond,and platinum and i completed the pokedex without transfering! I am a 10 year old boy and ur 18!-Arceus99
:Anyone else like to point out that I'm a failure in life, or are we done here? —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:14, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

== Apricorn Shaker ==

Could you delete it from [[List of key items in Generation IV]]? It's confirmed that it is NOT an item, but rather an overworld tool like Berry Blender or Poffin Mixer. Having it listed as item is completely irrelevant. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 19:35, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
:Cheers, Maxim. If it hasn't been taken off already I'll get it now. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:14, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

sorry

== Apricorn Table ==

Hello Trom. I fixed the table as you asked, fixed the border, labeled the table like the old one, and added the Japanese Apricorn names. The only thing I did not do was redo the image labels as TTE said,"Remove the image links and die...". So if you want them changed as someone else did to the other table (I do not know if it was authorized) so I just left them. If you need anything else done to it just ask. ([[Talk:Apricorn|Table still on talk page]]) also I will not replace the table until you tell me to, or you can just do it. –[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 19:46, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
:Thanks for your effort, Master K. I see someone did have a deathwish, so I've put it on the page. Again, thanks. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:14, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
::No problem at all. Thanks for the suggestions. –[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 23:12, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

== Something I want you to check out... ==

Yo Tromski, I know you got about a gazillion stuff to do already (including the {{{nick}}} parameter to our lovely template), but I need you to take a look at [[User:ElectAbuzzzz/Sandbox|this]]. I did my best so far but I'll need help with the moves tables. If you can, go on AIM. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 22:42, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

==Proposition==
What do you think about deleting the users who haven't made any contributions? Would that make a difference of the size of Bulbapedia? At least we can warn them to contribute or be blocked. I took a look at the new users since 2006 and saw that most didn't make contributions... then I saw BULBABOT's contributions and stopped soon after it. Would this make any difference whatsoever? Or should we keep them all to show how many users we have? Just a thought, but think about it. [[User:Pyles|Pyles]] 23:27, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
:Accounts can't be deleted. End of story. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:28, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
::Really? no acceptions? seems kind of a waste of space. [[User:Pyles|Pyles]] 23:31, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
:::People create accounts for various reasons. Some people register to secure their wellknown username from other sites to prevent people impersonating them. Some people register to avoid seeing the ads while they browse. Some people register to create fake pages and disrupt the creation of the encyclopedia. Everyone has different intentions for signing up, and with the exception of <s>dickheads</s> vandals, we shouldn't penalize anyone. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:35, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Thanks for clearing up my ignorance of other stuff on Bulbapedia. I didn't even think of some of those things. [[User:Pyles|Pyles]] 23:37, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

==Thanks==
I am AuraGaurdian. Thanks for your advice, Trom. I'll remember to leave a timestamp from now on.--[[User:AuraGaurdian|AuraGaurdian]] 23:54, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

==AIM==
I'm on, now--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 09:27, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
:-- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 01:22, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

==Friend Code==

Hey darklord do u have wifi on diamond i thought we could do a wifi battle using my platinum and ur diamond-Arceus99★☆★♪
:Nope. I don't. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:01, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Oh its ok!-Arceus99

== Thanks for the "In other languages" part ==

I forgot to add the lines so thanks.--[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight Blue]] 03:52, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

==Solidad==
hey man just wondering why you deleted my page on solidad's slowbro everything on there was true slowbro appeared in more than 1 episode it was in three i would say slowbro and evan lapras could be said to be solidads signiture pokemon so i dont see why her pokemon can't have a page
[[User:solidadrox|'''solidadrox''']][[User talk:solidadrox|'''''']][[Special:Contributions/solidadrox|'''''']]
:This has been explained on your talk page, but I'll put it here anyway. Bulbapedia has devloped a notability policy to discourage short low-quality articles. You probably posted here before you saw what Kenji-girl wrote on your talk page, but if you follow the link she provided you'll see the table listing for [[Drew]]'s Pokémon that haven't done enough. See, it doesn't come down to the number of appearances, or the number of battles they won. Plot and character devlopment are very important here. I hope I've made this clear. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:01, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

== I'm Sorry! ==

I should've known. Next time I will make sure to not use names like "you". That means I'll use "the player" then.
--[[User:Naoy5|Naoy5]] 17:48, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
:Nothing to be sorry about. It's just a learning curve. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:56, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

== What are we to make of these? ==

{{ms|351S}}{{ms|351R}}{{ms|351H}} Although rather well made, they're certainly unofficial. They would go well in certain tables though.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 09:09, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
:If you haven't done so already, ask the Echidna. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 19:48, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
::His page is protected. That's why I came here.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 20:59, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

Thanks for fixing up my mistakes! The TRsRockin page is still a work-in progress. I posted what i had because i had to get off the computer, and it was MOSTLY done. Lol. I'll be adding to it sometime tomorrow. :3 Thanks for fixing it up for me. [[User:CherryParanoia|CherryParanoia]] 18:06, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

== New user archiving already... ==

Hey Trom I was floating around and found that a new user, [[User:Thatguywiththecodes|Thatguywiththecodes]], already archived there talk page: [[User_talk:Thatguywiththecodes/Archive_1|Archived stuff]]. Additionally they removed the welcome message when they have already been told to leave it... If you need any assistance just let me know. ;) -[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 01:58, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
:i have "taken care" of this issue. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 02:09, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
::Thanks Magnedeth. –[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 02:54, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
:::I threw away my welcome as soon as I could. Although, that was back when it was a wall of text. And a small wall of that. I like what you did there, Mister Deth :D —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 05:04, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

== Hi, about talk page archiving. ==

When do I know when it is time to archive my page? Oh do you know how to make one of those HP bars for a talk page? I'm trying to figure it out but had no luck.--[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight Blue]] 02:16, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
:Ask TTE or someone. As for Archiving, it is the user choice to Archive his/her talkpage.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 02:59, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
::Some users archive when they've received enough hate mail to feel uncomfortable when they look at it. Some users archive at a particular size. I archive every three months. I don't care how big it gets, that's when it happens. It really is up to you. To make a talk page bar, go to someone else's page, steal their code, work out what it does (in SHOW PREVIEW mode so we don't see you screwing around and think you're a genius on the first save), and edit to suit your own style. That's the best way to figure out how some of the complicated wikimarkup works. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 05:04, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

== Talk page ==

Hello Trom, do you mind if I use a similar table to your for my talk page. I will give you credit, and it will be quite a bit different. –[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 21:09, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
:Go for your life. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:11, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
::Thanks. That kinda sounds bad though :O –[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 21:18, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
:::Done with it if you want to take a look at my talkpage. Thanks again Trom! –[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 22:05, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

==Space reserved for WeedleMaster==
Thanks!

I haven't been here long so I will try to work on my spelling.

[[User: WeedleMaster]]
:You can sign properly, too, by typing <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> at the end of each comment. This automatically puts your name and a timestamp at the end of the comment, and is the correct way to sign on any wiki. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:13, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Sweet!

[[User:WeedleMaster|WeedleMaster]] 21:51, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

== Dude you got issues. ==

I can reply to a message that are nearly 1 year old if i want to.So why go out of your way to tell me otherwise.Im still having trouble with viewing the photo's on the indigo league episode page.So i reported to the talk page to inform others that i too have had problems with viewing photos on that page.--[[User:Solidstate|Solid!]] 10:46, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
:Damn straight I have issues. I'm just telling you that the discussions there are quite often out of date. If you're having issues too you could either wait three years so I can finish my Psychology degree, or start a new section at the bottom of the page where you're more likely to get a relevant reply. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:48, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
::Beside, it's kinda stupid to reply to an out of date conversation when the problem has either been resolved or forgotten.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 10:51, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
Appolgy acepted Trom.--[[User:Solidstate|Solid!]] 12:56, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
:It isn't an apology if you edit my comment to put it in. The edit history tells all, Solid. Let that be a lesson to you. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:49, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

== Thanks for telling me how to sign! ==

lol, I'm not sure if this is the right page for messages or whatever...

Sorry if my use of phrases like, "Wtf" are against the rules. I just couldn't stand anymore seeing misleading information on this site. [[User:Chaos Rush|Chaos Rush]] 19:52, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
:Yep, messages go here. A lot of people here actually reply on their own talk pages when people leave them messages (this helps keep the conversation together), but it's up to you. There isn't anything wrong with saying "wtf". If you haven't read our {{bp|code of conduct}}, it pretty much describes how you ought to interact with other editors. You're doing a great job so far. Keep it up! —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:54, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Hey, I'd like to ask another question: I tried uploading the correct Platinum Mareep sprite (179.png), however on Mareep's page, the D/P sprite is still displayed under "Platinum Sprites". So then I uploaded a Spr_4p_179.png, but the sprite still displayed is the D/P sprite under "Platinum Sprites". Do you know how to fix that? (Oh, and about that blanked page, that was an accident, sorry, I was trying to fix the sprite)[[User:Chaos Rush|Chaos Rush]] 22:14, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
:It isn't automatic. The data has to be transferred from one server to another. Just give it a bit of time. And, yes, the upload did work the first time. Sometimes the old data is 'cached' and the new image doesn't display. About blanking the page... well, that was bad no matter what you were trying to do. At least replacing it with a description of what the image was would have sufficed. Now that you have your Archives Welcome things should hopefully be easier for you. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:17, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

== Team Rocket Sprite ==
I just wanted to leave a message thanking you for replacing the sprite on my Usertag. No matter how hard I looked around Bulbapedia I just couldn't find that Team Rocket sprite, so thanks! [[User:ASecondOpinion1501|ASecondOpinion1501]] 23:52, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
:No problem. If you ever are looking for Trainer Class sprites, we have an article on every [[:Category:Trainer classes|Trainer Class]]. As far as I'm aware, all our sprites are complete there. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:54, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
:: Well, I feel pretty stupid now. I looked down that list and managed to completely skip the Team Rocket Grunt link. Oh well, I suppose I'll just have to look more carefully next time ;) Thanks again! [[User:ASecondOpinion1501|ASecondOpinion1501]] 00:00, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

== Eevee Pokédex ==

Trom, just to let you know all of the Eevee Pokédex URL are outdated (on the collapsible menu under external links on the Pokémon info box). It looks like all the URL just got changed from the National Dex number to the Pokémons name. (ie. from pokemon/001 to pokemon/bulbasaur)

Is there someway we can fix this? –'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 21:41, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
:While there was nothing wrong with the redirects from ndex to the name (apart from some potential server stress at Veekun's end) I've updated the link generating process. It should be fine now. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:35, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
::Thanks for doing that Trom. –'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 23:59, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

== *shoots Trom* ==

On TCG Trivia, there isn't a whatchcallit (*) if there's just one piece of it. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 03:08, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

== HELP ==

I created a Frontier parser, but I need to add that to the re1, se1, and e1 parser, similar to what was done with the Lati@s parser. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 15:03, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
:OK, ht kinda freaked out on everyone here but you and I seem to have fixed it. What I need to know is if you think you can add a series of multi-form subtemplates I made a while ago to {{Template|Side game}}. They're all posted on the talk page (though I may have missed something) also, be warned, they may not work 100% because I was pretty inexperienced when I made them.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 01:57, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
::Verify that they work then make me a sandbox to copy. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:12, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
:::It's in my sandbox. Some minor alignment issues seem to have popped up but I was never very good with that (and it could just be my IE).--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 22:33, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
::::Done. Don't forget our nonverbal unwritten contract. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:19, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

== Kiaora ==

Hi, i was wondering if you could help with updating the party template on my user page, I tried after the home page told me to but I couldn't figure it out. Any help would be appreciated.''[[User:Sui|'''Sui''']][[User talk:Sui|'''Topaz''']]'' 22:30, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
:Here's the deal. You've been editing your userspace an awful lot in the short time you've been here. How about editing ten different articles before I update your template. Bulbapedia isn't a social site - it's an encyclopedia, and we need your help to complete it. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:21, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
::Deal''[[User:Sui|'''Sui''']][[User talk:Sui|'''Topaz''']]'' 04:53, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

== Routes 48, 49 ==

Sorry, I haven't seen a source dictating these as their names. Can you supply this? It may turn out that they have descriptive names like the Sevii Islands routes. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:11, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

: Here are two pictures I just took. [commented out coz they're huge :D]

[[User:MARXOR|MARXOR]] 01:40, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

:Cheers. About five minutes after I asked you, it was mentioned on some of the news sites that are going hardcore over this. We'll get articles written up in time, most likely after we get any decent kind of substantial information. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 05:44, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

==Thanks==
Thanks for handling the last part of the new Johto Dex numbers for me and I added that trivia piece liked you asked but only on the Legendary Beasts page which is best suited for it. But I tell you it while it was a long and tiring process I made sure not to make any mistakes so there is no need for further edits on those pages. But anyway check out the new trivia piece and make your own changes if you need to. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 19:44, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
:Thanks again for doing that for us. I'd agree that the Legendary Beasts article is the best. Having triplicate trivia is kind of boring, and it relates to all three of them. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 19:47, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

== Sprite deleting ==

I'm sorry to bother you, but could you delete [a really sucky jpg (comment edited by trom coz he deleted the sucky jpg)]? I updated his page's sprite for a png. -- [[User:RikkiKitsune|R<s>ikki</s>]][[User talk:RikkiKitsune|Kitsune]] 21:57, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
:Yahuh. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:00, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

== A Couple of things... ==

Hi Trom! I fixed the Giovanni template to have the same colours as the Team Rocket template, you can [[User:MasterKenobi/Gym_Leaders#Pok.C3.A9mon_HeartGold_and_SoulSilver_18|find the Giovanni template here]]. Is that colour scheme look all right? If not, what colours should we use? If so, we can go ahead and use it for the admins too.

Also, I have been working on the abilities of the Gym Leaders Pokémon and a couple of other trainers. I know how to find a couple such as Falkner's Pidgey, I will use smokescreen and if it lowers the accuracy, the ability is Keen Eye if not, it is Tangled Feet. Where I become stuck is at Pokémon such as Bugsy's Scyther where the abilities are Swarm or Technician, and I do not know how to determine the ability. I may need help with a few others too. Thanks ;) –'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 17:33, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
:Colors are fine. A darker grey might be preferable, but I'm not that fussed. Finalizing moves and abilities can be done using an Action Replay. Catch the Gym Leader's Pokémon and look in the status screen. That's how we found out Cynthia's Pokémon have perfect IVs. Dirty little.... —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:20, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
::We will keep those colours then until we decide we dislike them then. Darker grey was what I was thinking too. I will work on the gym leaders Pokémon then, that is an easier method. Wow, Perfect IV's!
::[[image:BrockHGSS.gif]][[File:BrockHGSS.png]]

::Also, I wanted to ask you about the gym leader sprites. Do we want to use the moving one (gif) or non-moving one (png). I have been alternating between both by having the non-moving ones for the gym leader gym battle template and the moving one for the rematch. An example of this is on the [[User:MasterKenobi/Gym_Leaders|Gym leader template page]]. In my personal opinion some of the moving sprites move too fast such as the Brock one. Also, as a side note some of the moving ones make the party template size different. So which way should it be done? Thanks Trom. –'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 20:37, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
:::I'm not a fan of the moving sprites. They slow down my browser. Although we've used animated sprites for Pt, that Brock one is of rather poor quality. It's up to you I guess. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:44, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
::::I will just stick with the one moving, one non-moving then. –'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 21:08, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

== Can you do someting for me? ==

Could it be possible that you can protect Leaf for a while until we get things settled?--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 21:18, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
:It's fine commented out. As far as I know, no one's actually played through with Kotone so we have no confirmation of a gender inverse. It's more than likely that it's still Red, what with all the references, but just leave it hidden, ok? —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:25, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
:Alright, thanks.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 21:26, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

==Need you to do a small fix==
Thank you for merging the Battle Frontier content, however the region stuff for Sinnoh and Johto is messed up and I tried a previewed link correction but it isn't going to work so if you can could you take a crack at it. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]]
:Fixed. {{u|Sol}} did it. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:29, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
::Glad someone got to it so the only thing left is updating the Pokémon League template with the new stuff, but anyway that is all I have to say for now. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 21:33, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
:::One more issue. The caption is incorrect (either 2 images or one with the correct one). [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 21:34, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
::::Once we get a Johto map I'll see if I can set it up to alternate between them. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:36, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

== Wikipedia ==

Wied you delete wikipedia? Why does it break your haerT? Sorry I'm asking these questions, but i just made the page. (I'm friendly with this, don't worry i'm not threatening you in any way). * --[[User:Tommy-SAN|'''T☆MMY''']][[User talk:Tommy-SAN|'''SAN!''']][[Special:Contributions/Tommy-SAN|'''♂''']]
:I'm a Wikipedian at heart, but there's no room for this article on Bulbapedia. Wikipedia as a whole has nothing to do with Pokémon. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:46, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

** Okay, i understand! Sorry, I don't wanna spam your talk page. * --[[User:Tommy-SAN|'''T☆MMY''']][[User talk:Tommy-SAN|'''SAN!''']][[Special:Contributions/Tommy-SAN|'''♂''']] 3:07 PM September 14, 2009 (UTC)

==Response to userspace policy==
i did read it, and i understand. but it seems like even just sharing in game data in my userspace gets the admins telling me to stop. im not using it like a twitter or a facebook. and i would like to help contribute to the mainspace, but i simply dont know enough about pokemon to edit with confidence. to me it doesnt seem fair that i cant show people my pokemon simply because im not a pokemon guru. it seems like almost everything is covered here :/ please dont take this the wrong way, ill gladly stop editing if it will hurt me and other people. [[User:Volsak|Volsak]] 22:08, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
:There is a lot that can be done on Bulbapedia. Believe it or not, we are far from complete! There are a lot of {{cat|stubs}} here—short articles that need expanding. Have a look through the list and see if there are any articles from the games you've played. I'm sure you'll find something to do. A more general to-do list can be found on the main page. I like your userpage, by the way :D —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:12, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

== TY ==

Thanks for cleaning my edit. It was quite embarrassing to read what I actually wrote... [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 11:09, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
:Any time. It wasn't that bad, really. I've seen a lot worse. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 11:11, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

== Still online? ==

If you are, log on for a sec, I need to ask you something. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 11:23, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

== Items ==

Hello Trom. I was wondering how we wanted to have the items. Do we want them just plainly listed like on the [[Route_32#Pok.C3.A9mon_HeartGold_and_SoulSilver_2|Route 32 page]] or do we want them listed and have a description like on the [[New_Bark_Town#Items|New Bark Town page]]. So far I have been making the item list similar to the New Bark Town page, so that would be fine if we stayed like that, and on top of that it adds detail... –'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 23:37, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

== help? ==

I would like to start a article of a tv channel for Project TV and would like to start.Where would i be able to start it without actually having it online and viewable by everyone until its ready to be realeased.Thanks --[[User:Solidstate|Solid!]] 08:20, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
:Impossible. Sorry. You can do it offline in Windows Notepad or a similar program, or make it in a user subpage. To make a user subpage write ''User:Solidstate/[subpage name]'' in the searchbar, and then click "create article". I would prefer it to happen that way, but whichever method you choose is up to you. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:27, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks-Ive started a page on channels that have showed Pokemon episodes [[tv2]] and i thought since you were from New zealand also (ithink) you might be able to add to it if not it's okay.Thanks --[[User:Solidstate|Solid!]] 10:34, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
:Yeah, this is getting a big cleanup. It's eventually going to get merged into ''Pokémon in New Zealand'', but we'll keep it up for now. Thanks for starting it off. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:37, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

== Wikia ==

What's your username on Wikia? What wikis are you on, we may have the same interests (We seem to already have an interest in Pokémon)! I'm an administrator on most wikias I'm on. (DON'T THINK THIS IS SPAM) * --[[User:Tommy-SAN|'''T☆MMY''']][[User talk:Tommy-SAN|'''SAN!''']][[Special:Contributions/Tommy-SAN|'''♂''']]
:I'm "The dark lord trombonator" and I'm barely active there. I pop up now and again on pokemon.wikia to make sure that no one's stealing our content... again... —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 05:30, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

==An error to bring up==
Nice work on updating HeartGold and SoulSilver and creating a Pokémon section for that page, but I noticed of a typing error on the parenthesis for the first paragraph regarding FireRed and LeafGreen. THere are 3 present when there should be 2 or 4. Thought you should know. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 04:57, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
:Dammit... I thought I was doing good. I'll get onto that... —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 04:59, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
::Thanks, and on another quick topic I removed unconfirmed details from Metapods' page about game location. Since even on Serebii.net it is acknowledged as being unconfirmed of it not being in SoulSilver, I going to help monitor that all unconfirmed details stay off this site until they are properly verified. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 05:06, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

== Sandbox ==

How come I'm not allowed to have a sandbox? [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 07:16, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
:It's not that you aren't allowed to have a sandbox. We encourage the use of sandboxes. However, don't edit in your userspace too much because it can stress the server. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:17, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
::Well, okay, no problem there. It's just, I've barely had it a couple hours and I'm getting policy warnings or whatever. If it's a problem don't worry then, delete it and I'll find something else to do. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 07:22, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
::Not a problem. I didn't mean it as a warning, just a reminder. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:24, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Heh, seems [http://www.serebii.net/pokemon_advance/contest-poke.shtml I don't need to do the work on my own], it's already been done. So, should we do something with the info? "Contest Opponents", maybe? [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 00:41, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
:A better option would be. "List of Pokémon Contest opponents". We still need their Trainer's names. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:05, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
::Looked, and found this - http://www.gamefaqs.com/portable/gbadvance/file/921905/22585. Gives all the trainer names, along with most of what Serebii gives too including movelists. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 01:07, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
:::It lacks Emerald information. Also, we lack a third-generation contest template (ala the one on Jasmine's page). I'll pester the Echidna to set one up, as the others are of his design. Once that's up you can put them onto a page. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:15, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

::::Aye sir. I'll look for the Emerald info. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 01:19, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

I haven't been able to find Emerald yet, but comparing my list to the ones I found so far they're the same. In the meantime, I could do the page with the Sapphire and Ruby ones any time. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 19:27, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
:For Fantina and them, would it be better to find which contests they appear in and list it as their type. For example [[Johanna|Jumpy]] seems like it would be for Cool contests hence its type could be listed as Cool in the table since its Normal type has no bearing in contests.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 21:16, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
:I have some info for Gen III and IV Pokémon. They're all used in the same rank, but in all Contest types. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 21:22, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
::I'm on Gen 3 contests, E13. Gen opponents are exclusive to each rank but can appear in any type of contest. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 23:30, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

== Hey trom ==

Hey Trom, need a gallade, or a darkrai, '''don't touch my darkrai''', but still , I'm in NZ and have quite a few pokemon that you might not have. So if you need my friend code for some trading, check out my talk page!P.S: I'm not a hacker, I hate hackers, got my darkrai legit, Aug 3-Sep 13, members card: 27 dusk balls and 5 ultra balls down the drain. But it was all worth it.--[[User:Minimag|Minimag]] 06:05, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
:I lack a wifi connection, so the answer would have to be no. My Pokédex, if anyone cares, is 444 and I really like that number so that's good incentive to never touch Diamond again... —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:15, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

== Pichu ==

Is there a notched-ear Pichu back sprite ready for upload? [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 02:25, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
:Not that I have access to. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 19:32, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

== TTE's Talkpage ==

Do you have any idea why TTE's talk page is locked? I need to ask him a question. Thanks Trom. ;) -'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 12:34, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
:He always does that to ensure it lasts until the end of the month.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 12:51, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
::He also wants users to go to different people more often. Ask someone else the question and they will try to give you the answer. If they can't TTE will find out the question anyway, and respond too. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 13:00, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
:::Thanks for letting me know that.–'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 15:08, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

== Just a suggestion ==

I know there is a page saying that you can only edit your page only a certain of times, but can't you put that on the "welcome message" too? You know what I mean?--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 22:44, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
:It's on the welcome message. Bottom right. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:45, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
::Oh, it must be new, it's not on mine. Alright.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 22:48, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
:::In that version, it's the third policy down. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 22:53, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

== Caption ==

What captions were you talking about? Were they on an article or an image? -Hmdwgf 08:17, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
:[[Molly Hale]]'s infobox. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:19, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
:: Oh, I'm sorry. I missed that. A rare careless mistake on my part. --[[User:Hmdwgf]] 08:26, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

== *chilly voice* ==

I have no idea how 2 use the forums. and since u deleted my question u could have had the decency 2 answer it -_- --[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 20:51, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
:I don't know the answer, but Bulbapedia's main page is not the place to be asking those kinds of questions. If you don't want to take the time to learn how to use the forums (which are a really fun, social place to hang out) then there's always google. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:53, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

== Ho-oh battle music ==

I have been searching clips all over youtube and other sites and have been listening to the wild pokemon battle music very carefully. It seems that Ho-oh has a very traditional japanese battle theme. If you need to hear it, just go to youtube and type down Ho-oh battle to see what I mean. So I was wondering if it would be OK to add this to the trivia. I was also thinking of putting it's battle music on it's page somehow. If you know how to, and if it's OK, I would be more than happy to upload a good quality track onto the Ho-oh page. Please keep me updated by adding the info on my talk page, or yours if you can't. P.S: This is HGSS music. Thank's.--[[User:Minimag|Minimag]] 03:05, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

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My replies will go here, so make sure to be watching this page. If you're a first-time poster here, I'll leave a note on your talk page too. Next archive planned for October 1.... —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 12:11, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
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== See this ==

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{{TP|Sabrina|Kadabra}}/Alakazam ([[Sabrina]]) • {{TP|Blaine|Magmar}} ([[Blaine]]) • {{TP|Giovanni|Persian}}/Nidoking? ([[Giovanni]])/<?> ({{ga|Blue}}) 
{{TP|Lorelei|Cloyster}} ([[Lorelei]]) • {{TP|Bruno|Onix}}/Machamp ([[Bruno]]) • Gengar ([[Agatha]]) • {{TP|Lance|Dragonite}} ([[Lance]])
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Poliwrath/{{TP|Chuck|Machoke}} ([[Chuck]]) • Steelix ([[Jasmine]]) • {{TP|Pryce|Piloswine}} ([[Pryce]]) • {{TP|Clair|Dragonair}}/Kingdra ([[Clair]]) 
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This is only the first two regions...working on it...how is it? [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 14:29, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
:Is it really necessary? —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:52, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
::Ehh...debatable for now... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 01:31, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

== Whoops ==

[[User:MisterE13/Sandbox|Here]], I figured out a little something that will work a little better. Sorry about that and thaks for everuthing.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 18:48, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
:Done. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:52, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
::Some new stuff on there now, got rid of some redirects and added Rotom and Castform clauses. BTW, yes I had made one final mistake on the Infobox which is now fixed in my Sandbox I'm 100% sure it will work now though (and Shaymin's page will be perfect{{tt|.|Muhahaha}})--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 01:01, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Which new stuff am I supposed to install? —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:13, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
::::Everything, its kind-of scattered in the first two so I suppose you could copy/paste. If that's no good, most of it was just redirect-avoiding (which I do believe is good). Other than that, it was just Rotom, Castform (and a slight Burmy) clauses.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 03:17, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::Query: What do the "improvements" actually do? Just sprite altering? —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:25, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::A lot of redirects to [[Forme differences]] are avoided (don't know if that's as important as I think it is), putting in 412 automatically inserts a little "Plant Cloak" (for Burmy), the TM one now allows for Rotom (complete with sprites and "Forme differences" links) and they both allow for Castform (links only, obviously). That's pretty much it I think.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 03:41, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::There are yet more last minute modifications in there now. Thanks for the trouble.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 07:20, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
As it turns out, I had made a small placement error. All better now :D.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 15:27, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
:There's something new in there now (no moveentries this time, I promise)--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 14:42, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

== Books ==

Hey Trom, should we start making articles about the Pokémon books? A couple I can name of the top of my head are: Pokémon pop quiz by Carli Entin, and Attack of the prehistoric Pokémon by Tracey West. Actually, could we just make it a project? I could put together a list before you decided if you want. Thanks Trom! -[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 03:43, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:Yeah, definitely go ahead with that. I wouldn't suggest a full-flown project just yet, but maybe we can organise something more formal once some work has actually been done. Tracey West doesn't even have an article yet, so that may be a good place to start. I've read a few of her novelizations (but don't own any), and recall a bibliography on the back. And of course, the internet may be a good resource as well. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:36, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
::[http://www.traceywest.com/biography.html This] and [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=safari&rls=en-us&q=tracey+west+biography&revid=1279369419&ei=_mZMSvfoCYbyMcvY1PYD&sa=X&oi=revisions_inline&resnum=0&ct=broad-revision&cd=4 this] look like a good place to start. I will help with the project if it's created. *wishing I still had all of the books I had by her* --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 07:54, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Wow, that first site looks great! I suppose I'll get started on that article, then. Unless you have already. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:59, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
::::I haven't. And of course that first site looks great. It's her official sight. (lol) --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 08:00, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::Hm. I should get some more sleep. I thought I was talking to the same person then.... D: —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:16, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::lol What's this "sleep" of which you speak? It's 2:20 am here and I'm not tired at all. And it has nothing to do with the Pepsi I'm drinking. *should probably shut up now**goes to edit my userpage a ton (but only one recorded edit, no worries) and possibly create a couple book pages* Should we do pages for [http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Pokemon-Pop-Quiz/Carli-Entin/e/9780439154062 the pop quiz book mentioned above], [http://www.paperbackswap.com/book/details/9780816765270-Pokemon+Activity+Book the activity book], [http://www.amazon.com/How-Draw-Pokemon-Tracey-West/dp/0439434408 the how to draw Pokémon book (by Tracey West)], and/or [http://www.amazon.com/Pokemon-Official-Collectors-Sticker-Book/dp/0439106591 the sticker book]? --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 08:29, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::How about you try and do the lot? Keep up the quality, though. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:44, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Okay. They might not be very good, as there isn't much important stuff to write about (I believe). --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 08:48, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

OK, thanks Trom. I can probably get my hands on a couple of the books but will start out with just a list of to-do stuff. Thanks again, and get yourself some sleep! –[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 16:36, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:Trom, I made a [[User:MasterKenobi/Project Books/To-do list| To-do list]] and have quite a bit more to add. I think, that I could probably make a project out of this if I get an OK. Here is the first book article, [[Island of the Giant Pokémon (book)]] but, I think to make it look a bit better we could use a template that includes the title, book cover image, pages, publication date, ISBN # (This one I think isn't really needed), and publisher. For the series books though we could make it like the anime or the manga where it links to the book before it and after it. -[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 19:22, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

== Quick question ==

Do you know how to link directly to a category on a userpage without it getting included and making it appear? I'm trying to extend list of (non talk) pages I've created on my userpage, but it won't show the category pages. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 08:37, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:{{template|cat}}. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:44, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
::Thanks! --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 08:51, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

== A Question ==

Three things (not all questions). First, how do you use special characters in the search boxes? Second, one of the pictures on your userpage doesn't display. Third, if there is supposed to be a Haunter pic on this page its not working and just says purplehaunter.png or something like that.--[[User:Swampert rox|Swampert rox]] 16:39, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
:The images are your problem, not mine. They all display for me. Try clearing your browser cache (Ctrl+F5). If, by special characters you mean the e-acute (é) you can either copy-paste from somewhere else, or you can type Alt+130. These can all be found in the character map for Windows. If you're on a Mac, I can't help you with that. There's probably a list on the internet of every special character ever created and the accompanying codes. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:49, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
::For Mac: The é is option-e-e. I use it all the time. Other symbols can be gotten by other option- combinations. All the letter keys plus have special chars. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 03:03, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
:::If you mean Alt + 1 + 3 + 0, it doesn't work. If that's not what you meant, what do I type?--[[User:Swampert rox|Swampert rox]] 21:19, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
::::I think he means to hold the Alt key and type 130 in that order, not all at once. I've never tried that method, though. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 21:22, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::Doesn't work (or do anything whatsoever).--[[User:Swampert rox|Swampert rox]] 14:58, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::Then something's up with your computer. I'd love to fix it, but... um.... yeah..... —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 05:18, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Alt+0233 can be used as an alternative for the e-acute. '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 05:20, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::::You have to use the numberpad to type the numbers, not the row at the top of the keyboard. If you are using a laptop which doesn't have a numberpad then you can buy a usb one quite cheaply, or just cope with the redirects that should have been created. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] 05:37, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::Most laptops have an Fn key anyway, which activates keys differently. It's what I use: I gotta hold Fn and Alt and hit jlm. é. Happy daaaaay! '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:08, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::That doesn't work for me either. Is there any alternative way for a laptop?--[[User:Swampert rox|Swampert rox]] 11:49, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

== Sorry again ==

Did I apologize for my behavior. I had not realized that I could not make other changes. I do not speak English well and I find it difficult to understand at times. Sorry again for my ignorance. --[[User:Brendon|Brendon]] 8.35, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

== yukushi wisdom ==
Thanks for your help. Actually, since I don't edit much in Bulbapedia, I was considering canceling my account. That's why I was editing. I didn't realise that I was doing it in my fake name lol but anyways thaks for everything. {{SUBST:User:Uxie wisdom/sig}} 23:57, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
:Accounts can't be canceled, unfortunately. Just go away and never come back :P If you want those subpages you blanked deleted, I can handle that for you. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:07, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

== Slight problem ==

Well, it's not really a problem but, Trombony, I might need an option of no image (in which cse we might wanna colspan it). See [[Cissy]] to get what I mean. Many thanks. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 00:23, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
:It shouldn't be too hard to get an image. I'll dig around, watch the episode and get good screenshots. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:58, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
::Yes, of course we can get the image. But the template is gonna be in a much wider use, and we're gonna have a lot of similar cases... But yeah, it's not too bad, just leaves some whitespace. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 10:21, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
::Well I see that that's already fixed, but a few other things (sorry I'm being difficult, but I demand perfection :)), when you get the time: first, there's the subject of nicknamed Pokémon, like [[Ritchie]]'s. I don't want the image caption to read "Ritchie's Sparky", I want it to read "Sparky", and the same for the main article link.
::Second: Apparently I need the number of "="s on the section headers to be changeable. In most articles it should be the way you did it, but in some I need it to be one level lower.
::Last but not least - check what happens if someone clicks the "edit" link in one of the sections... Is that supposed to be like that? --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 11:25, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
::: *clicks edit* woah! Yeah, not good. We can fix that with a NOEDITSECTION magicword. We can set the image to default as noimage; although imageneeded may be better than a white gap. I'll add an optional parameter such as {{{nick}}}, which should hopefully override the current hovercaption formatting. There can also be optional parameters for lower headings. Can you show me an example of where that would be in place? It won't help the construction of the template; I'm just curious. :P
:::You probably didn't understand a word of that. Probably because I made up most of the terminology. Lol. I doubt I'll catch you on AIM this weekend so I'll either work through it when I have time, or catch up with you later. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:29, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
::::Yeah, the reason I'm writing to you here is because we keep missing each other on AIM lately, and I figured it's best to let you know... So, here we go:
::::# The way you just canceled the section headers is no good. The reason I wanted section headers is because [[Casey's Elekid]], [[Drew's Absol]], etc, redirect to that specific Pokémon in the template. Get it? So put back the sectionheaders with that nice magicword of yours, please.
::::# Seems like {{u|Sol}} took care of the image thing for now.
::::# The {{{nick}}} parameter sounds great. Do it.
::::# Lower heading would come in case that the character exists in more than one media, AND has Pokémon not on hand. Why? Because then the headings go: <nowiki>==In the anime==, ===Pokémon===, ====On hand====,</nowiki> and just THEN the Pokémon should be. {{Gary}} is the best example I can think of right now.
::::So you see Trombodude, you're underestimating my comprehension skills. I understand you kiwi wiki terminology just fine. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 12:27, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::The problem with the magicword, I later realised, is that it will cancel all section headers for the entire page. I think I may have an idea for the headings, too. I'll experiment, and get back to you later in the week. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:23, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::Believe it or not Tromizard, but I actually managed to code everything myself ^^; so, no worries. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 21:58, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

== HGSS ==

* Can you add something to the [[Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver|HGSS]] page saying something about the game containing both leafy trees and autumn trees? --[[User:swampert_rox|Swampert]] [[Swampert (Pokémon)|=]] [[User talk:Swampert_rox|awesome]] ([[User:PhoenixGraphix#{{ucfirst:Daily (bleh)}}|bl]][[Special:Random|eh]]) 19:28, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

== Redirects ==

Please be a bit more careful when trying to turn articles into redirects. I had to restore the article on [[Camerupt Point]] you had changed into a redirect because you made it redirect to Camerupt Point, hence causing an infinite redirect loop. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 23:12, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
:Whoops; it was meant to go to [[Camerupt Mountain]]. Confuzzling :( —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:14, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

== Pokémon Black Market ==

If the article was full of speculation and all that, then slap a cleanup tag on it instead of deleting it! The Pokémon Black Market is a factual part of the Pokémon universe and thus is worthy of its own article. Could you restore it, please? [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 23:28, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
:They'd be nothing left if all the speculation was removed. All you'd have left to say would be "The Pokémon black market is a black market for Pokémon which was talked about in DPxyz." I don't consider that to be article-worthy. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:29, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
::There's also the fact about Snorunt being worth top dollar on it. Besides, it's not like the speculation in question was baseless. If Glalie was worth as much as or more than Snorunt on the market, the hunter would've just sold his own Glalie, rather than going to the trouble of snatching Snorunt. If Carnivine, Yanmega, Pikachu, Chimchar, or Buneary were worth as much as or more than Snorunt, then the hunter would've tried to take them as well. If anything, that could be confined to a trivia section. Plus, there's [[Dustox Flower Field|much worse]] in the way of stubs. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 23:36, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
:::I didn't say it wasn't baseless; in fact I think they are perfectly reasonable assumptions. However, they remain just that. Perhaps the hunter hadn't realised that he could have sold Glalie, or perhaps he was sentimentally attached to it, or perhaps he just got a thrill from stealing Pokémon. These things are as unknown as the conclusions you have jumped to. If the information about Snorunt isn't mentioned on {{p|Snorunt|this page}} I'd suggest putting them there.
:::And yes, there are millions of stubs out there, and we are doing our best to clean them up (hence "featured stub" on the main page). It'd be great if you could give us a hand. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:40, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
::::It's not that I wouldn't love to, it's half the time I find a stub, I usually don't know too much information what that can be added to it. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 23:49, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
== Talk archive image ==
See what's in <nowiki></nowiki>'s. Just thought it might be easier for ya.--'''[[User:Immewnity|''Mew'']] [[User talk:Immewnity|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|Immewnity]]''' was here at 01:34, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
:Amazing. No more pretend transparent! Cheers. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:03, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

== Edit again ==

Sorry, but I missed something with that change in {{template|bulbanews}}. See [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Bulbanews&curid=78999&diff=815279&oldid=815276 this]. Thanks. [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 02:16, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
:Done. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:41, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

== Thank you ==

Thanks for blocking I am Missingno. I annoys me so much when people mess up pages, especially an entire page. Anyway, thanks for putting a stop to the vandalism. --[[User:RiverAura|*River*]] [[User_Talk:RiverAura|*Aura*]] 20:52, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
:That's ok. I hadn't planned to pop in today, but I'm glad I did. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:53, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
::I would also like to extend my gratitude for quick action. He also touched both of our userpages. If you want, you can clear my history of the vandalism. Thanks again. By the way, the line I put for "Get off this wiki!" is a pun of Steve Wilkos telling bad guests "Get off my stage!" Just a thought. --[[User:Rockersk08|rock]][[User talk:Rockersk08|ersk]][[Special:Contributions/Rockersk08|08]] 20:56, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Both done. Thanks to all involved. Now, move along, folks. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:02, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
:::: I forgot to mention {{p|Pikachu}} Sorry about that. --[[User:Rockersk08|rock]][[User talk:Rockersk08|ersk]][[Special:Contributions/Rockersk08|08]] 21:04, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

== Trom old boy, ==

How do you set the size of the table of contents? Places like {{m|Double-Edge}} are getting a bit out of hand.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 03:01, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
:I don't know if it's possible to do that. You can set your preferences up, however, to autohide all TOCs. It's under Misc. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:05, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
::Oh, yours seemed squished (maybe its just your big purple box). Should I just not write "Gale of Darkness" then?--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 03:07, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Oh, yeah, it's just been squished. I guess you could put it into an invisible table and set the width there... but that'll just make extend downwards further, which would be worse, IMO. Don't abbreviate the game name too far. Aside from the fact that it takes up my whole screen, there's no huge problem. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:10, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
::::PK, just realized I can take out "Pokémon" #2 :D.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 03:11, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

== Chuck Norris ==

Username similar, just swapped the first few letters...how about it? Remove or keep? [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 03:20, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
:Give him a chance, probably just a coinicidence; who wouldn't want to be named after the world's greatest human being?--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 03:22, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
::I heard MediaWiki blocking powers don't work on Chuck Norris. IDK about his fanboys, so let's leave him for now. Don't want to break the server or anything. Chances are he won't do anything. If he does, we can jump him then. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:23, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
::: You guys wouldn't be talking about me, would you? Considering that ht14 posted about 12 minutes after I joined, I would say that's likely. Well, if you are talking about me, don't worry, I'm not a n00b, all I want to do is give back to the website which has helped me so much when playing through the Pokémon games. I'm not new to Wikis either; I'm a member on Wikipedia, and I've even almost entirely rewritten an article there ({{wp|Whirled}}), and edited a few others. [[User:Nuck Chorris|Nuck Chorris]] 04:27, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

::::I don't see a problem. Use your own judgement on this one, trom, since it's on your TP, but it's clearly not an ''impersonation''. --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 04:30, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::Impersonating {{u|Chuck Norris}}? Or {{wp|Chuck Norris}} himself? Is {{u|Chuck Norris}} a high-standing member? If so, I apologize for any apparent impersonation, all I did was I checked to see if I'd already registered here by looking for usernames beginning with "Nuck". Also, Trom, I can say from experience that the banhammer works on me, considering I have felt its wrath on Kingdom of Loathing. Don't worry, it was for taking a controversial debate too far. I doubt the banhammer would work on Chuck Norris himself, though. Even if it did, I woudn't want to try it on him. He'd probably be standing right behind you, in the middle of roundhousing you, even before the banhammer was swung. WATCH OUT FOR HIM!!!! —– [[User:Nuck Chorris|Nuck Chorris]] ([[User talk:Nuck Chorris|talk]]) 05:11, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

::::::The real one. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 05:21, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::I live in fear of him every day. Speaking of which, he's right behind me right now! Holy S***!!! Oh, wait... thats just the back of my chair. Nevermind... False alarm... Anyways, I've got more maps to work on now, so carry on without me. —– [[User:Nuck Chorris|Nuck Chorris]] ([[User talk:Nuck Chorris|talk]]) 05:41, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

== Why? ==

Do you removed the image of Twinleaf Town from Platinum.[[User:Mario136|Mario136]] 18:51, 30 July,2009 (UTC)
:Despite the fact that it's from the latest game, it was of a lower quality and had giant arrows on it. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 19:46, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

== Equivalent to Wikipedia's {{wp|Template:Superseded-Image}}? ==

Trom – since you were the one who welcomed me, and you seem to be fairly active and helpful – do you know if Bulbapedia has an equivalent to Wikipedia's {{wp|Template:Superseded-Image}}? I uploaded a higher-quality map for [[Eterna Forest]] ([[a:Image:EternaForest.png]]), but the old one still exists (Image:Eterna Forest.png). On Wikipedia, I know you'd just tag the old image with {{wp|Template:Superseded-Image}}, but as I can't find that or something similar on Bulbapedia or Bulbagarden Archives, I don't know what to do. Any ideas? [[User:Nuck Chorris|Nuck Chorris]] 04:33, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
:Nah, you'd just mark it for deletion and say in the edit summary that you uploaded a better one. Which image is this? I'll get it for you.--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[User talk:RexRacer|Racer''']] 04:35, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
::Haha, just saw you linked it.--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[User talk:RexRacer|Racer''']] 04:36, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
::: Thanks! I assume I use <nowiki>{{delete}}</nowiki> to mark it for deletion, right? —– [[User:Nuck Chorris|Nuck Chorris]] ([[User talk:Nuck Chorris|talk]]) 05:02, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Yep.--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[User talk:RexRacer|Racer''']] 05:41, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

== Code help ==

Since you've already been so helpful in reducing my signature to nothing more that purple writing, I should ask how you get a coloured background on your userpage :P thanks in advance --[[User:Dragon Master|'''Dragon]]''' [[User talk:Dragon Master|'''Master]]''' 12:43, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
:[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Dragon_Master&diff=prev&oldid=822131 Replied] on your talk page. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:15, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

== Re:Signature ==
thanks! it works now!--[[User:Rotom45|Rotom]][[User Talk:Rotom45|Let me get the lawnmower!]] 01:59, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
:[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rotom45&diff=prev&oldid=822132 Replied] on your talk page. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:15, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

dont worry. i'll follow Bulbapedia's rules and respect it's policy!--[[User:Rotom45|Rotom]][[User Talk:Rotom45|Let me get the lawnmower!]] 02:16, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

== Idea ==

Since I'm not very good at coding, I thought I could give you an idea; the big list of moves on the [[List of moves|List of moves article]] could possibly be reconstructed on the [[Contest category| Contest category article]], but with only move name and contest type (without power, accuracy, fughting type, etc.) Do you think that is a good idea and would you be able to do that/find someone to do that? If not I can have a go, but as I say, I'm not very knowledgable in that area. Thanks --[[User:Dragon Master|'''Dragon]]'''[[User talk:Dragon Master|'''Master]]''' 09:11, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
:I've been working on compiling a list similar to the one near the bottom of, say {{t|Rock|this page}}, for contests. It's largely incomplete and in [[User:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/Hell|a sandbox]]. This is largely a copy-and-paste job from the moves' individual articles designed to tidy up articles like [[Cool Contest]], so feel free to chip in if you want. I haven't touched it for about half a year... —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 11:44, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

== Undoing my changes. ==

I was wondering why some Pokémon pages auto-forward, and some don't. Help?
--[[User:FromCrimsonToWool|FromCrimsonToWool]] 03:07, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:We call it ''redirecting''. If a Pokémon exists in another media, typically the anime (e.g. [[Ash's Pikachu]]) or manga (e.g. [[Poochyena (CCP)]]), the page doesn't redirect and serves as a ''disambiguation''. This is done because if someone searches for, say, Bulbasaur, they may be looking for {{OP|Ash|Bulbasaur}}, {{OP|May|Bulbasaur}}, [[Saur|one from the manga]], or simply the {{p|Bulbasaur|species}}. Think of it as kind of a signpost. Not all Pokémon are special enough though (e.g. [[Paras]]), so they don't have the disambiguation page as searchers will clearly be looking for the article about the species. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:13, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Okay, so how, and thus where, do we all draw the line? Also, why not just include a link at the top of the pokémon page for something like that?--[[User:FromCrimsonToWool|FromCrimsonToWool]] 03:30, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:Generally if a Trainer's Pokémon has an article, the Pokémon page gets disambiguated. This is our system, and this is how it's worked for a couple of years. There was a poll about this less than two years ago, when the users had the chance to vote about this. For [[Bulbapedia talk:Disambiguation poll|many reasons]], this is what we came up with. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:38, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
::That is an argument that has gone on since the beginning. It was decided that changing it would upset more people than it does keeping it the same. It would also make soooo many things much harder. It is something that is set in stone, and will never change. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 03:38, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
Hokay. Thanks. I just kind of figured that there would have been more support for it to be the other way around, as in more game centric.--[[User:FromCrimsonToWool|FromCrimsonToWool]] 03:51, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

== Brendan ==

Holy crap man... you just helped more than you know, doing those party templates. I was gonna try to get them done in the next few days, and you just made my life easier. I know that you didn't make any mistakes other than that one getting the Pokémon mixed up, but I'm gonna go over it once more tomorrow just for yucks. Seriously though, thanks. x-x '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 04:11, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:If there was something wrong, it'll have been wrong on May's page too. It was a direct copy-paste. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 05:25, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

::Crappit. *checks May* Yeah... oh well. Fixed now. Still, thanks for that. Oops. And I forgot, Brendan has a slightly different team than May. I'll change that too... '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 19:00, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:::Different? Really? How odd. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:06, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

::::Don't worry about it. I shoulda caught it last night, but I had just gotten home from the airport a few hours earlier. That's my fault, not yours. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 20:23, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

== ABC ==

Sorry about all this constantly running-ideas-by-you thing, but I just dont yet feel its my place to go changing Bulbapedia without guidance. Anyway, do you think the list on [[List of game characters|this page]] should be alphebatised? If so, let me know on [[User talk:Dragon Master| my talk page]] and I'll get right on to it...Thanks--[[User:Dragon Master|'''Dragon]]'''[[User talk:Dragon Master|'''Master]]''' 07:21, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:That's already. I enjoy being able to help. The answer is "Nope". It appears to be on an importance-first basis. It's fine as is. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:05, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

::I've got one, mostly for my education. Would this question have been better placed on the Talk tab of said page?--[[User:FromCrimsonToWool|FromCrimsonToWool]] 10:15, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

:::Well, yeah, if you wanna get all literal on me... :P --[[User:Dragon Master|'''Dragon]]'''[[User talk:Dragon Master|'''Master]]''' 12:09, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Actually, now I look and think about it, the more it seems like the list is in order of which comes first and when you meet them etc. --[[User:Dragon Master|'''Dragon]]'''[[User talk:Dragon Master|'''Master]]''' 12:10, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::FCTW: That's the way talk pages are meant to function. However, an article that obscure may not get noticed. I personally have no problem with people bringing things up on my talk page. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:06, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::Got it, thank you. {{unsigned|FromCrimsonToWool}}

==Shinx Comment==
I was trying to see if anyone thought it was interesting enough to put in trivia, not chatting it up. --[[User:Crystal_Shards|'''Crystal Shards''']] 16:52, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:Either way, X looks like Y trivia is an opinion. That kind of thing isn't allowed, because two people may see things differently. We try and be objective. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:06, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
::Could have explained that earlier instead of just taking it out. --[[User:Crystal_Shards|'''Crystal Shards''']] 22:42, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:::That's how things get done here. Unacceptable comments are removed, to prevent people abusing the talk page for discussion about the subject of the article, rather than its content. This is all explained in that lovely green welcome on the top of your usertalk page. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:58, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Yeah I read that; thanks anyway. Too bad we just had a different definition of "unacceptable" at that point in time. --[[User:Crystal_Shards|'''Crystal Shards''']] 01:35, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

== Template ==

I've created a template {{template|HeldItems}}. I need work on a parser, the Gen I one. After that, we can all insert the stuff accordingly. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 21:02, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
:Once that's done, I'll organize the held items according to items (category). [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 21:03, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
::Final thing. I also need another section for Pokemon with 2 possible held items. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 21:05, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
:::Sorry Trombonator, I couldn't sleep and felt the need to handle this one (with a little help from {{u|TTEchidna|a certain echidna}}). {{unsigned|MisterE13}}
::::Sigh... clearly you guys totally missed the fact that I'd already created one... template:held item... —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:54, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::Ironic how I even posted on that template talk page... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 01:49, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::And in its section on my third talk archive. Seeing as it's apparently nicer, I've unprotected it to allow you to make any changes you wish. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:51, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Cool....Gen II has weird percentages though...8%...I dunno how to handle that... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 01:53, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Are they standard, or different per Pokémon? If they are the same we can have it set up to use the tt template. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:54, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Seems to be different unfortunately...Sacred Ash/Leftovers for instance for Ho-oh/Snorlax. 100%. Speaking of which...Numel and Vulpix are 100% also...so scratch that. That method isn't that great... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 01:59, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::There is a clause in there for 100%. Or, at least, I had one drafted. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:00, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:Oh. Did you see the ones where I used the template? As of now though, just protect it. I'm not the greatest with tables... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 02:02, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::I've actually been doing some work on ht's. Unfotunately, I think third versions can be different than the other two. Should we seperate?--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 02:03, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:::Umm...not only that...Elekid and Magby...though minor problem. More major issue may be images and redirects...Stardust... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 02:05, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Images should all have standard filenames. If you spot any more that aren't, let me know. The D/P mismatch could potentially be solved with a footer. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:12, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::Right...Nugget? Also...berries...most of the held items are berries. With the format right now...t's not linking to it... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 02:15, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::Yes, nuggets and berries are now named correctly. The correct filename is File:Bag Name Sprite.png. I like what MisterE13 did with the itemtype. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:19, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Sorry and thanks...Soft Sand...Poison Barb...type-enhancing items...all right. Just protect it...I can't take this right now... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 02:20, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::::They got done a while ago. I've decided to leave it open. MisterE or tc may want to play. If anyone else wants to take a stab, be my guest. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:23, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:Right. One last thing. Can you categorize the Template:Held item/100 as {{cat|Pokémon with wild held items}}. Thanks for everything. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 02:28, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::Way ahead of you there. :P —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:29, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:::XD Problem...as I was saying before...Sentret...Berry leads to Berries, which is what we're not talking about here... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 02:32, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Last thing. GSC didn't have sprites... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 02:33, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::Just finished fixing. Actually, I'm doing a lot of work on it right now so you might want to wait a bit before asking fo anything else :).--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 02:41, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::OK. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 02:44, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::: *hopes it's not too late* Shards. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 03:09, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Yellow and Red are fine but the others were uploaded in .gif format. If you can fix that (you were the original uploader, after all), tag the old ones with {{template|delete}} and replace the links. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:11, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::Done. So it'll be <nowiki>[[Image:Bag_<color>_Shard_Sprite.png]]</nowiki>. Unless you want to move it and make it simpler that is... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 03:21, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
I've started a three step plan I conceived last night to perfect this template. I just need to know if there are any version-exclusives other than the Light Ball in Gen I, the Soul Dew in Gen III, and the Magmarizer/Electrizer in Gen IV? This would include any item with different rates or found on a different Pokémon.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 18:34, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
::I would think that's it. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 18:51, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
:::It's done you know, does anyone need a walkthrough?--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 02:46, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
::::I can probably figure it out. If you haven't, though, you should post it noincluded on the template page so when we are dead and gone and the fourteenth generation is being released, the Bulbapedians of the future can figure it out. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:14, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::LOL to that. If the world lasts that long anyway... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 19:38, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

== News Page discussion ==

Hey trom, I made a comment here (http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Many_features_to_return_to_HeartGold,_SoulSilver) about the latest news from CoroCoro magazine when you get a chance. Provided a bit of translation to clear up any speculation/confusion. :)

Also, how the hell do you sign comments on here. :| {{unsigned|Gimmetokyo}}

:Use <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. Either type them, or use the thing under the text box. Both of them work. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 18:39, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

== I am sorry! ==

I won't do it again. But I get back soon.--[[User:Pokelover195|Pokelover195]] 20:38, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
:{{wp|Little Britain|Computer says no}}. You abused our trust. You have to earn it back. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:39, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
Ok. I agree. --[[User:Pokelover195|Pokelover195]] 23:04, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

But how can I earn it back? --[[User:Pokelover195|Pokelover195]] 19:16, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
:You need to edit the articles. Any page that doesn't have a prefix in front of it, like {{p|Pikachu|this one}}, [[Wiki Berry|this one]], [[Route 103|this one]] or [[Special:Random|this one]]. Start with what you know, and go from there. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:04, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

== Hey Trom! ==

Did you have a sandbox. or not on your userpage. Because I want to check out user's Sandbox. --[[User:Pokelover195|Pokelover195]] 21:08, 9 August 2009 (UTC)-
:Nope. To be honest, you don't need one; you are currently unable to edit any pages in the userspace (that is to say, any page prefixed by <code>User:</code>). In any regard, a sandbox is just a testing area. People have different things in them depending on what they are working on. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:12, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

What is a sandbox? --[[User:Pokelover195|Pokelover195]] 22:51, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
:If you'd read my previous reply you'd understand that a sandbox is a testing area where people can try out new templates or coding. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:52, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

== Random thing ==

For berries on the actual berries page, should we leave it the way it is or use sprites from [http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/rsberryspr.html here]? It's for consistency with the e-Reader berries. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 03:59, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:Ask the {{u|RexRacer|Project Leader}}. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 09:19, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

==*space reserved for Arceus99*==
Hey Dark Lord i didn't delete ur page or anything it must have been my younger brother he seems to hack into my account easily
anyway i apologize -Arceus99
:guys belive me i dint edit ur page my brothers a computer geek
Arceus99
::I suggest you get a password he can't guess then. If we see you removing stuff again, the account will be blocked, regardless of who did it. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:13, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

ok-arceus99

== Arceus and the Jewel of Life ==

Just because you're a sysop doesn't mean you can disregard the rules and revert confirmed and relevant edits. --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 22:02, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:I haven't disregarded any rules. The page was undergoing an edit war, and as per our procedures it has been left at its original state. As you are no doubt aware there is a discussion on the talk page. This was going on before you jumped in, and is still now. The rename will take place once an outcome has been established. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:37, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

== Cause you getting on AIM would be pointless... ==

If we tie again, does this mean I can revert you? Or can't I since you're basically above me in the power rank? Oh, and I need to ask you something as well. Can you roundy-ify the CharacterInfoBox stuff please? There's a lot to it and you're the only one who I'd ask to do it because I like making you work and I can't really touch the stuff, and cause I don't know how to round-ify stuff...--[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 01:32, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
:You're right, it would be. You can revert if you want to. I thought about it, but didn't want to fill up the newbie's inbox. What kind of color scheme you looking at? —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:38, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
::Well, I was actually kinda particular for a categorization thing going. Like 4 colors, one for each generation, which also categorizes them by the color into generation, ie Mr. Stone having a red color and having all red color ones categorized into Gen 3 characters. However, if it isn't possible to do that, just make them all how they were and just roundy-ify them, please. :D. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 01:43, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
:::We can do that! Just name the color schemes. The only problem atm is that anime and manga use the same template. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:45, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Hm...Well, that might be a problem...Uh...if anything I'd like them of course to be "color name" color light, but I'd go with yellow, crystal, emerald and platinum perhaps for respective generational debut...If not, tell me which ones would be a problem...--[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 01:56, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

== Pokemon Diamond ==

What!? You didnt complete the national dex in diamond!? I have pearl,diamond,and platinum and i completed the pokedex without transfering! I am a 10 year old boy and ur 18!-Arceus99
:Anyone else like to point out that I'm a failure in life, or are we done here? —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:14, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

== Apricorn Shaker ==

Could you delete it from [[List of key items in Generation IV]]? It's confirmed that it is NOT an item, but rather an overworld tool like Berry Blender or Poffin Mixer. Having it listed as item is completely irrelevant. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 19:35, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
:Cheers, Maxim. If it hasn't been taken off already I'll get it now. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:14, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

sorry

== Apricorn Table ==

Hello Trom. I fixed the table as you asked, fixed the border, labeled the table like the old one, and added the Japanese Apricorn names. The only thing I did not do was redo the image labels as TTE said,"Remove the image links and die...". So if you want them changed as someone else did to the other table (I do not know if it was authorized) so I just left them. If you need anything else done to it just ask. ([[Talk:Apricorn|Table still on talk page]]) also I will not replace the table until you tell me to, or you can just do it. –[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 19:46, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
:Thanks for your effort, Master K. I see someone did have a deathwish, so I've put it on the page. Again, thanks. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:14, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
::No problem at all. Thanks for the suggestions. –[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 23:12, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

== Something I want you to check out... ==

Yo Tromski, I know you got about a gazillion stuff to do already (including the {{{nick}}} parameter to our lovely template), but I need you to take a look at [[User:ElectAbuzzzz/Sandbox|this]]. I did my best so far but I'll need help with the moves tables. If you can, go on AIM. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 22:42, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

==Proposition==
What do you think about deleting the users who haven't made any contributions? Would that make a difference of the size of Bulbapedia? At least we can warn them to contribute or be blocked. I took a look at the new users since 2006 and saw that most didn't make contributions... then I saw BULBABOT's contributions and stopped soon after it. Would this make any difference whatsoever? Or should we keep them all to show how many users we have? Just a thought, but think about it. [[User:Pyles|Pyles]] 23:27, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
:Accounts can't be deleted. End of story. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:28, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
::Really? no acceptions? seems kind of a waste of space. [[User:Pyles|Pyles]] 23:31, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
:::People create accounts for various reasons. Some people register to secure their wellknown username from other sites to prevent people impersonating them. Some people register to avoid seeing the ads while they browse. Some people register to create fake pages and disrupt the creation of the encyclopedia. Everyone has different intentions for signing up, and with the exception of <s>dickheads</s> vandals, we shouldn't penalize anyone. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:35, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Thanks for clearing up my ignorance of other stuff on Bulbapedia. I didn't even think of some of those things. [[User:Pyles|Pyles]] 23:37, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

==Thanks==
I am AuraGaurdian. Thanks for your advice, Trom. I'll remember to leave a timestamp from now on.--[[User:AuraGaurdian|AuraGaurdian]] 23:54, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

==AIM==
I'm on, now--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 09:27, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
:-- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 01:22, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

==Friend Code==

Hey darklord do u have wifi on diamond i thought we could do a wifi battle using my platinum and ur diamond-Arceus99★☆★♪
:Nope. I don't. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:01, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Oh its ok!-Arceus99

== Thanks for the "In other languages" part ==

I forgot to add the lines so thanks.--[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight Blue]] 03:52, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

==Solidad==
hey man just wondering why you deleted my page on solidad's slowbro everything on there was true slowbro appeared in more than 1 episode it was in three i would say slowbro and evan lapras could be said to be solidads signiture pokemon so i dont see why her pokemon can't have a page
[[User:solidadrox|'''solidadrox''']][[User talk:solidadrox|'''''']][[Special:Contributions/solidadrox|'''''']]
:This has been explained on your talk page, but I'll put it here anyway. Bulbapedia has devloped a notability policy to discourage short low-quality articles. You probably posted here before you saw what Kenji-girl wrote on your talk page, but if you follow the link she provided you'll see the table listing for [[Drew]]'s Pokémon that haven't done enough. See, it doesn't come down to the number of appearances, or the number of battles they won. Plot and character devlopment are very important here. I hope I've made this clear. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:01, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

== I'm Sorry! ==

I should've known. Next time I will make sure to not use names like "you". That means I'll use "the player" then.
--[[User:Naoy5|Naoy5]] 17:48, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
:Nothing to be sorry about. It's just a learning curve. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:56, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

== What are we to make of these? ==

{{ms|351S}}{{ms|351R}}{{ms|351H}} Although rather well made, they're certainly unofficial. They would go well in certain tables though.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 09:09, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
:If you haven't done so already, ask the Echidna. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 19:48, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
::His page is protected. That's why I came here.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 20:59, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

Thanks for fixing up my mistakes! The TRsRockin page is still a work-in progress. I posted what i had because i had to get off the computer, and it was MOSTLY done. Lol. I'll be adding to it sometime tomorrow. :3 Thanks for fixing it up for me. [[User:CherryParanoia|CherryParanoia]] 18:06, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

== New user archiving already... ==

Hey Trom I was floating around and found that a new user, [[User:Thatguywiththecodes|Thatguywiththecodes]], already archived there talk page: [[User_talk:Thatguywiththecodes/Archive_1|Archived stuff]]. Additionally they removed the welcome message when they have already been told to leave it... If you need any assistance just let me know. ;) -[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 01:58, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
:i have "taken care" of this issue. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 02:09, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
::Thanks Magnedeth. –[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 02:54, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
:::I threw away my welcome as soon as I could. Although, that was back when it was a wall of text. And a small wall of that. I like what you did there, Mister Deth :D —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 05:04, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

== Hi, about talk page archiving. ==

When do I know when it is time to archive my page? Oh do you know how to make one of those HP bars for a talk page? I'm trying to figure it out but had no luck.--[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight Blue]] 02:16, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
:Ask TTE or someone. As for Archiving, it is the user choice to Archive his/her talkpage.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 02:59, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
::Some users archive when they've received enough hate mail to feel uncomfortable when they look at it. Some users archive at a particular size. I archive every three months. I don't care how big it gets, that's when it happens. It really is up to you. To make a talk page bar, go to someone else's page, steal their code, work out what it does (in SHOW PREVIEW mode so we don't see you screwing around and think you're a genius on the first save), and edit to suit your own style. That's the best way to figure out how some of the complicated wikimarkup works. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 05:04, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

== Talk page ==

Hello Trom, do you mind if I use a similar table to your for my talk page. I will give you credit, and it will be quite a bit different. –[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 21:09, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
:Go for your life. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:11, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
::Thanks. That kinda sounds bad though :O –[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 21:18, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
:::Done with it if you want to take a look at my talkpage. Thanks again Trom! –[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 22:05, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

==Space reserved for WeedleMaster==
Thanks!

I haven't been here long so I will try to work on my spelling.

[[User: WeedleMaster]]
:You can sign properly, too, by typing <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> at the end of each comment. This automatically puts your name and a timestamp at the end of the comment, and is the correct way to sign on any wiki. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:13, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Sweet!

[[User:WeedleMaster|WeedleMaster]] 21:51, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

== Dude you got issues. ==

I can reply to a message that are nearly 1 year old if i want to.So why go out of your way to tell me otherwise.Im still having trouble with viewing the photo's on the indigo league episode page.So i reported to the talk page to inform others that i too have had problems with viewing photos on that page.--[[User:Solidstate|Solid!]] 10:46, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
:Damn straight I have issues. I'm just telling you that the discussions there are quite often out of date. If you're having issues too you could either wait three years so I can finish my Psychology degree, or start a new section at the bottom of the page where you're more likely to get a relevant reply. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:48, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
::Beside, it's kinda stupid to reply to an out of date conversation when the problem has either been resolved or forgotten.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 10:51, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
Appolgy acepted Trom.--[[User:Solidstate|Solid!]] 12:56, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
:It isn't an apology if you edit my comment to put it in. The edit history tells all, Solid. Let that be a lesson to you. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:49, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

== Thanks for telling me how to sign! ==

lol, I'm not sure if this is the right page for messages or whatever...

Sorry if my use of phrases like, "Wtf" are against the rules. I just couldn't stand anymore seeing misleading information on this site. [[User:Chaos Rush|Chaos Rush]] 19:52, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
:Yep, messages go here. A lot of people here actually reply on their own talk pages when people leave them messages (this helps keep the conversation together), but it's up to you. There isn't anything wrong with saying "wtf". If you haven't read our {{bp|code of conduct}}, it pretty much describes how you ought to interact with other editors. You're doing a great job so far. Keep it up! —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:54, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Hey, I'd like to ask another question: I tried uploading the correct Platinum Mareep sprite (179.png), however on Mareep's page, the D/P sprite is still displayed under "Platinum Sprites". So then I uploaded a Spr_4p_179.png, but the sprite still displayed is the D/P sprite under "Platinum Sprites". Do you know how to fix that? (Oh, and about that blanked page, that was an accident, sorry, I was trying to fix the sprite)[[User:Chaos Rush|Chaos Rush]] 22:14, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
:It isn't automatic. The data has to be transferred from one server to another. Just give it a bit of time. And, yes, the upload did work the first time. Sometimes the old data is 'cached' and the new image doesn't display. About blanking the page... well, that was bad no matter what you were trying to do. At least replacing it with a description of what the image was would have sufficed. Now that you have your Archives Welcome things should hopefully be easier for you. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:17, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

== Team Rocket Sprite ==
I just wanted to leave a message thanking you for replacing the sprite on my Usertag. No matter how hard I looked around Bulbapedia I just couldn't find that Team Rocket sprite, so thanks! [[User:ASecondOpinion1501|ASecondOpinion1501]] 23:52, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
:No problem. If you ever are looking for Trainer Class sprites, we have an article on every [[:Category:Trainer classes|Trainer Class]]. As far as I'm aware, all our sprites are complete there. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:54, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
:: Well, I feel pretty stupid now. I looked down that list and managed to completely skip the Team Rocket Grunt link. Oh well, I suppose I'll just have to look more carefully next time ;) Thanks again! [[User:ASecondOpinion1501|ASecondOpinion1501]] 00:00, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

== Eevee Pokédex ==

Trom, just to let you know all of the Eevee Pokédex URL are outdated (on the collapsible menu under external links on the Pokémon info box). It looks like all the URL just got changed from the National Dex number to the Pokémons name. (ie. from pokemon/001 to pokemon/bulbasaur)

Is there someway we can fix this? –'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 21:41, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
:While there was nothing wrong with the redirects from ndex to the name (apart from some potential server stress at Veekun's end) I've updated the link generating process. It should be fine now. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:35, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
::Thanks for doing that Trom. –'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 23:59, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

== *shoots Trom* ==

On TCG Trivia, there isn't a whatchcallit (*) if there's just one piece of it. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 03:08, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

== HELP ==

I created a Frontier parser, but I need to add that to the re1, se1, and e1 parser, similar to what was done with the Lati@s parser. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 15:03, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
:OK, ht kinda freaked out on everyone here but you and I seem to have fixed it. What I need to know is if you think you can add a series of multi-form subtemplates I made a while ago to {{Template|Side game}}. They're all posted on the talk page (though I may have missed something) also, be warned, they may not work 100% because I was pretty inexperienced when I made them.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 01:57, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
::Verify that they work then make me a sandbox to copy. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:12, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
:::It's in my sandbox. Some minor alignment issues seem to have popped up but I was never very good with that (and it could just be my IE).--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 22:33, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
::::Done. Don't forget our nonverbal unwritten contract. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:19, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

== Kiaora ==

Hi, i was wondering if you could help with updating the party template on my user page, I tried after the home page told me to but I couldn't figure it out. Any help would be appreciated.''[[User:Sui|'''Sui''']][[User talk:Sui|'''Topaz''']]'' 22:30, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
:Here's the deal. You've been editing your userspace an awful lot in the short time you've been here. How about editing ten different articles before I update your template. Bulbapedia isn't a social site - it's an encyclopedia, and we need your help to complete it. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:21, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
::Deal''[[User:Sui|'''Sui''']][[User talk:Sui|'''Topaz''']]'' 04:53, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

== Routes 48, 49 ==

Sorry, I haven't seen a source dictating these as their names. Can you supply this? It may turn out that they have descriptive names like the Sevii Islands routes. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:11, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

: Here are two pictures I just took. [commented out coz they're huge :D]

[[User:MARXOR|MARXOR]] 01:40, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

:Cheers. About five minutes after I asked you, it was mentioned on some of the news sites that are going hardcore over this. We'll get articles written up in time, most likely after we get any decent kind of substantial information. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 05:44, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

==Thanks==
Thanks for handling the last part of the new Johto Dex numbers for me and I added that trivia piece liked you asked but only on the Legendary Beasts page which is best suited for it. But I tell you it while it was a long and tiring process I made sure not to make any mistakes so there is no need for further edits on those pages. But anyway check out the new trivia piece and make your own changes if you need to. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 19:44, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
:Thanks again for doing that for us. I'd agree that the Legendary Beasts article is the best. Having triplicate trivia is kind of boring, and it relates to all three of them. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 19:47, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

== Sprite deleting ==

I'm sorry to bother you, but could you delete [a really sucky jpg (comment edited by trom coz he deleted the sucky jpg)]? I updated his page's sprite for a png. -- [[User:RikkiKitsune|R<s>ikki</s>]][[User talk:RikkiKitsune|Kitsune]] 21:57, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
:Yahuh. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:00, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

== A Couple of things... ==

Hi Trom! I fixed the Giovanni template to have the same colours as the Team Rocket template, you can [[User:MasterKenobi/Gym_Leaders#Pok.C3.A9mon_HeartGold_and_SoulSilver_18|find the Giovanni template here]]. Is that colour scheme look all right? If not, what colours should we use? If so, we can go ahead and use it for the admins too.

Also, I have been working on the abilities of the Gym Leaders Pokémon and a couple of other trainers. I know how to find a couple such as Falkner's Pidgey, I will use smokescreen and if it lowers the accuracy, the ability is Keen Eye if not, it is Tangled Feet. Where I become stuck is at Pokémon such as Bugsy's Scyther where the abilities are Swarm or Technician, and I do not know how to determine the ability. I may need help with a few others too. Thanks ;) –'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 17:33, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
:Colors are fine. A darker grey might be preferable, but I'm not that fussed. Finalizing moves and abilities can be done using an Action Replay. Catch the Gym Leader's Pokémon and look in the status screen. That's how we found out Cynthia's Pokémon have perfect IVs. Dirty little.... —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:20, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
::We will keep those colours then until we decide we dislike them then. Darker grey was what I was thinking too. I will work on the gym leaders Pokémon then, that is an easier method. Wow, Perfect IV's!
::[[image:BrockHGSS.gif]][[File:BrockHGSS.png]]

::Also, I wanted to ask you about the gym leader sprites. Do we want to use the moving one (gif) or non-moving one (png). I have been alternating between both by having the non-moving ones for the gym leader gym battle template and the moving one for the rematch. An example of this is on the [[User:MasterKenobi/Gym_Leaders|Gym leader template page]]. In my personal opinion some of the moving sprites move too fast such as the Brock one. Also, as a side note some of the moving ones make the party template size different. So which way should it be done? Thanks Trom. –'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 20:37, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
:::I'm not a fan of the moving sprites. They slow down my browser. Although we've used animated sprites for Pt, that Brock one is of rather poor quality. It's up to you I guess. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:44, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
::::I will just stick with the one moving, one non-moving then. –'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 21:08, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

== Can you do someting for me? ==

Could it be possible that you can protect Leaf for a while until we get things settled?--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 21:18, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
:It's fine commented out. As far as I know, no one's actually played through with Kotone so we have no confirmation of a gender inverse. It's more than likely that it's still Red, what with all the references, but just leave it hidden, ok? —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:25, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
:Alright, thanks.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 21:26, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

==Need you to do a small fix==
Thank you for merging the Battle Frontier content, however the region stuff for Sinnoh and Johto is messed up and I tried a previewed link correction but it isn't going to work so if you can could you take a crack at it. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]]
:Fixed. {{u|Sol}} did it. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:29, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
::Glad someone got to it so the only thing left is updating the Pokémon League template with the new stuff, but anyway that is all I have to say for now. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 21:33, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
:::One more issue. The caption is incorrect (either 2 images or one with the correct one). [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 21:34, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
::::Once we get a Johto map I'll see if I can set it up to alternate between them. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:36, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

== Wikipedia ==

Wied you delete wikipedia? Why does it break your haerT? Sorry I'm asking these questions, but i just made the page. (I'm friendly with this, don't worry i'm not threatening you in any way). * --[[User:Tommy-SAN|'''T☆MMY''']][[User talk:Tommy-SAN|'''SAN!''']][[Special:Contributions/Tommy-SAN|'''♂''']]
:I'm a Wikipedian at heart, but there's no room for this article on Bulbapedia. Wikipedia as a whole has nothing to do with Pokémon. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:46, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

** Okay, i understand! Sorry, I don't wanna spam your talk page. * --[[User:Tommy-SAN|'''T☆MMY''']][[User talk:Tommy-SAN|'''SAN!''']][[Special:Contributions/Tommy-SAN|'''♂''']] 3:07 PM September 14, 2009 (UTC)

==Response to userspace policy==
i did read it, and i understand. but it seems like even just sharing in game data in my userspace gets the admins telling me to stop. im not using it like a twitter or a facebook. and i would like to help contribute to the mainspace, but i simply dont know enough about pokemon to edit with confidence. to me it doesnt seem fair that i cant show people my pokemon simply because im not a pokemon guru. it seems like almost everything is covered here :/ please dont take this the wrong way, ill gladly stop editing if it will hurt me and other people. [[User:Volsak|Volsak]] 22:08, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
:There is a lot that can be done on Bulbapedia. Believe it or not, we are far from complete! There are a lot of {{cat|stubs}} here—short articles that need expanding. Have a look through the list and see if there are any articles from the games you've played. I'm sure you'll find something to do. A more general to-do list can be found on the main page. I like your userpage, by the way :D —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:12, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

== TY ==

Thanks for cleaning my edit. It was quite embarrassing to read what I actually wrote... [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 11:09, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
:Any time. It wasn't that bad, really. I've seen a lot worse. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 11:11, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

== Still online? ==

If you are, log on for a sec, I need to ask you something. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 11:23, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

== Items ==

Hello Trom. I was wondering how we wanted to have the items. Do we want them just plainly listed like on the [[Route_32#Pok.C3.A9mon_HeartGold_and_SoulSilver_2|Route 32 page]] or do we want them listed and have a description like on the [[New_Bark_Town#Items|New Bark Town page]]. So far I have been making the item list similar to the New Bark Town page, so that would be fine if we stayed like that, and on top of that it adds detail... –'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 23:37, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

== help? ==

I would like to start a article of a tv channel for Project TV and would like to start.Where would i be able to start it without actually having it online and viewable by everyone until its ready to be realeased.Thanks --[[User:Solidstate|Solid!]] 08:20, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
:Impossible. Sorry. You can do it offline in Windows Notepad or a similar program, or make it in a user subpage. To make a user subpage write ''User:Solidstate/[subpage name]'' in the searchbar, and then click "create article". I would prefer it to happen that way, but whichever method you choose is up to you. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:27, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks-Ive started a page on channels that have showed Pokemon episodes [[tv2]] and i thought since you were from New zealand also (ithink) you might be able to add to it if not it's okay.Thanks --[[User:Solidstate|Solid!]] 10:34, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
:Yeah, this is getting a big cleanup. It's eventually going to get merged into ''Pokémon in New Zealand'', but we'll keep it up for now. Thanks for starting it off. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:37, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

== Wikia ==

What's your username on Wikia? What wikis are you on, we may have the same interests (We seem to already have an interest in Pokémon)! I'm an administrator on most wikias I'm on. (DON'T THINK THIS IS SPAM) * --[[User:Tommy-SAN|'''T☆MMY''']][[User talk:Tommy-SAN|'''SAN!''']][[Special:Contributions/Tommy-SAN|'''♂''']]
:I'm "The dark lord trombonator" and I'm barely active there. I pop up now and again on pokemon.wikia to make sure that no one's stealing our content... again... —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 05:30, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

==An error to bring up==
Nice work on updating HeartGold and SoulSilver and creating a Pokémon section for that page, but I noticed of a typing error on the parenthesis for the first paragraph regarding FireRed and LeafGreen. THere are 3 present when there should be 2 or 4. Thought you should know. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 04:57, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
:Dammit... I thought I was doing good. I'll get onto that... —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 04:59, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
::Thanks, and on another quick topic I removed unconfirmed details from Metapods' page about game location. Since even on Serebii.net it is acknowledged as being unconfirmed of it not being in SoulSilver, I going to help monitor that all unconfirmed details stay off this site until they are properly verified. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 05:06, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

== Sandbox ==

How come I'm not allowed to have a sandbox? [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 07:16, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
:It's not that you aren't allowed to have a sandbox. We encourage the use of sandboxes. However, don't edit in your userspace too much because it can stress the server. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:17, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
::Well, okay, no problem there. It's just, I've barely had it a couple hours and I'm getting policy warnings or whatever. If it's a problem don't worry then, delete it and I'll find something else to do. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 07:22, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
::Not a problem. I didn't mean it as a warning, just a reminder. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:24, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Heh, seems [http://www.serebii.net/pokemon_advance/contest-poke.shtml I don't need to do the work on my own], it's already been done. So, should we do something with the info? "Contest Opponents", maybe? [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 00:41, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
:A better option would be. "List of Pokémon Contest opponents". We still need their Trainer's names. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:05, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
::Looked, and found this - http://www.gamefaqs.com/portable/gbadvance/file/921905/22585. Gives all the trainer names, along with most of what Serebii gives too including movelists. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 01:07, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
:::It lacks Emerald information. Also, we lack a third-generation contest template (ala the one on Jasmine's page). I'll pester the Echidna to set one up, as the others are of his design. Once that's up you can put them onto a page. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:15, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

::::Aye sir. I'll look for the Emerald info. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 01:19, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

I haven't been able to find Emerald yet, but comparing my list to the ones I found so far they're the same. In the meantime, I could do the page with the Sapphire and Ruby ones any time. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 19:27, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
:For Fantina and them, would it be better to find which contests they appear in and list it as their type. For example [[Johanna|Jumpy]] seems like it would be for Cool contests hence its type could be listed as Cool in the table since its Normal type has no bearing in contests.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 21:16, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
:I have some info for Gen III and IV Pokémon. They're all used in the same rank, but in all Contest types. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 21:22, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
::I'm on Gen 3 contests, E13. Gen opponents are exclusive to each rank but can appear in any type of contest. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 23:30, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

== Hey trom ==

Hey Trom, need a gallade, or a darkrai, '''don't touch my darkrai''', but still , I'm in NZ and have quite a few pokemon that you might not have. So if you need my friend code for some trading, check out my talk page!P.S: I'm not a hacker, I hate hackers, got my darkrai legit, Aug 3-Sep 13, members card: 27 dusk balls and 5 ultra balls down the drain. But it was all worth it.--[[User:Minimag|Minimag]] 06:05, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
:I lack a wifi connection, so the answer would have to be no. My Pokédex, if anyone cares, is 444 and I really like that number so that's good incentive to never touch Diamond again... —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:15, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

== Pichu ==

Is there a notched-ear Pichu back sprite ready for upload? [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 02:25, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
:Not that I have access to. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 19:32, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

== TTE's Talkpage ==

Do you have any idea why TTE's talk page is locked? I need to ask him a question. Thanks Trom. ;) -'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 12:34, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
:He always does that to ensure it lasts until the end of the month.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 12:51, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
::He also wants users to go to different people more often. Ask someone else the question and they will try to give you the answer. If they can't TTE will find out the question anyway, and respond too. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 13:00, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
:::Thanks for letting me know that.–'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 15:08, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

== Just a suggestion ==

I know there is a page saying that you can only edit your page only a certain of times, but can't you put that on the "welcome message" too? You know what I mean?--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 22:44, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
:It's on the welcome message. Bottom right. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:45, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
::Oh, it must be new, it's not on mine. Alright.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 22:48, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
:::In that version, it's the third policy down. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 22:53, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

== Caption ==

What captions were you talking about? Were they on an article or an image? -Hmdwgf 08:17, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
:[[Molly Hale]]'s infobox. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:19, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
:: Oh, I'm sorry. I missed that. A rare careless mistake on my part. --[[User:Hmdwgf]] 08:26, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

== *chilly voice* ==

I have no idea how 2 use the forums. and since u deleted my question u could have had the decency 2 answer it -_- --[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 20:51, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
:I don't know the answer, but Bulbapedia's main page is not the place to be asking those kinds of questions. If you don't want to take the time to learn how to use the forums (which are a really fun, social place to hang out) then there's always google. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:53, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

== Ho-oh battle music ==

I have been searching clips all over youtube and other sites and have been listening to the wild pokemon battle music very carefully. It seems that Ho-oh has a very traditional japanese battle theme. If you need to hear it, just go to youtube and type down Ho-oh battle to see what I mean. So I was wondering if it would be OK to add this to the trivia. I was also thinking of putting it's battle music on it's page somehow. If you know how to, and if it's OK, I would be more than happy to upload a good quality track onto the Ho-oh page. Please keep me updated by adding the info on my talk page, or yours if you can't. Thank's.--[[User:Minimag|Minimag]] 03:05, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions

2009-09-29T02:46:11Z

Minimag:

{{Infobox_game |
name = Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions |
boxart = [[File:HeartGoldJP-ART.jpg‎|200px]][[File:SoulSilverJP-ART.jpg|200px]] |
caption = Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions' boxart, [[version mascot|featuring]] {{p|Ho-Oh}} and {{p|Lugia}}. |
category = RPG |
players = 2 players simultaneous |
release_date_ja = September 12, 2009 |
release_date_na = Spring 2010 |
release_date_eu = Spring 2010 |
release_date_au = N/A |
release_date_kr = N/A |
publisher = [[Nintendo]] |
developer = [[Game Freak]] |
esrb =  |
staff = no |
stafflink = Staff of Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver |
website_en = None |
website_ja = [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/hgss/index.html 特集：『ポケットモンスターハートゴールド・ソウルシルバー』公式サイト｜ポケットモンスターオフィシャルサイト｜] |
}}

'''Pokémon HeartGold Version''' (Japanese: '''ポケットモンスターハートゴールド''' ''Pocket Monsters Heartgold'') and '''Pokémon SoulSilver Version''' (Japanese: '''ポケットモンスターソウルシルバー''' ''Pocket Monsters Soulsilver'') are paired [[Generation IV]] {{wp|video game remake|remake}}s of the [[Generation II]] games {{game|Gold and Silver|s}}.

Much like {{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}} revisited the [[Generation I]] story of [[Kanto]], HeartGold and SoulSilver retell the story of [[Johto]], with the player's starting area being [[New Bark Town]]. While the games feature several expansions in key areas, the overall plot follows the same direction as the original {{2v2|Gold|Silver}}. Some aspects exclusive to {{v2|Crystal}} are also included. Like FireRed and LeafGreen could link up with {{3v2|Ruby|Sapphire|Emerald}} to complete the Pokédex by trading regionally-exclusive Pokémon, HeartGold and SoulSilver can link up with {{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}} to obtain Pokémon unavailable in Johto and Kanto, such as {{p|Starly}}.

{{ga|Kris}}, despite being the female counterpart of Crystal's player character {{ga|Gold}}, is not included as the female player character, with a {{ga|Kotone|new character}} instead taking her place. Whether she is chosen to be the [[player character]] or not, she will still appear in the game, taking a pseudo-[[rival]] role similar to the unselected characters of [[Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Versions|Ruby, Sapphire]], {{v2|Emerald}}, {{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}.

The games were released on September 12, 2009 in Japan, and are scheduled to be released in spring of 2010 in North America and Europe. The Japanese release date is the same day that {{game|Yellow}} was released in 1998.

==Changes from Pokémon Gold and Silver==
===Aesthetic changes===
* {{ga|Gold}} receives a redesign while {{ga|Kotone|a new player character}} replaces {{ga|Kris}}.
* All the game's music is rearranged to better utilize the DS's sound capabilities. A key item allows the player to switch back and forth freely between the arranged soundtrack and original chiptune soundtrack.
* The [[PokéGear]] has been redesigned. There are a range of skins that can be used and changed at the player's will.
* Much like Kanto's was for its remakes, Johto's Pokédex has been redesigned. Unlike Kanto's remakes, which contained the same [[List of Pokémon by Kanto Pokédex number|regional Pokédex]] as the originals, [[List of Pokémon by New Pokédex number|the original regional Pokédex]] for Johto has been [[List of Pokémon by Johto Pokédex number|slightly altered]], including several [[Generation IV]] evolutions for Pokémon found in Johto.
* An image of certain locations, similar to that of {{v2|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}}, appears when entering the location. Some of these images change depending on the time of day while others change the image of the Pokémon obtainable at the location on the image at random.
* [[Team Rocket Grunt]]s are redesigned once again.
* [[Rocket Executive]]s are also redesigned from Generation II, with four separate ones appearing: [[Athena]], [[Apollo]], [[Lambda]] and {{TR|Lance}}, which the names are based on actual rockets. They also have their own unique battle intros.
* {{p|Ho-Oh}} and {{p|Lugia}} each have their own unique battle music , while the [[legendary beasts]] each use a remixed version of their battle theme from {{game|Crystal}}.
* [[Kurt]] and [[Apricorn]]s make a return to the series along with their respective [[Poké Ball]]s. Apricorns can now be carried by the player in their own [[bag]] with a new item, the [[Apricorn Case]].
* All former Berry trees have become [[Apricorn]] trees.
* [[Gym Leader]]s and [[Elite Four]] members have animated battle sprites and battle intros, as in {{v2|Platinum}}. Many [[Gym]]s have been redesigned as well, some with new puzzles.
* {{m|Rock Smash}}, previously a TM usable on the field in the originals, is now a full-fledged HM as it has been since Generation III. {{m|Defog}} loses its HM status to the returning {{m|Whirlpool}}.
* Ambient sound effects are used with greater frequency than in previous games; for example, running water and the player walking through grass will produce audible noises.
* The [[Magnet Train]]'s tracks can be seen overground in locations such as [[Route 32]].
* [[Pal Park]] is located where the closed [[Kanto Safari Zone]] once stood in [[Fuchsia City]].

===Location changes===
* Elm's Lab has an upstairs level, where [[Professor Elm|the professor]] and his family live, his old house being occupied by Kotone/Hibiki and her/his family.
* Maps have been remade to match the design style used in {{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}.
* The {{jo|Battle Tower}} west of [[Olivine City]], introduced in {{game|Crystal}}, returns, bringing with it the {{OBP|Battle Frontier|Generation IV}} similar to the one in Platinum.
* Two new routes, [[Route 47]] and [[Route 48]], are introduced near [[Cianwood City]]. They lead to a new [[Johto Safari Zone|Safari Zone]].
* [[Mt. Silver]] is much bigger and [[Viridian Forest]] is not cut down.
* [[Cerulean Cave]] and the [[Seafoam Islands]] remain as they were in Generation III (though [[Blaine]] still takes part of the Seafoam Islands), allowing the [[legendary Pokémon]] that live inside them to be battled. {{p|Moltres}}, formerly found in {{ka|Victory Road}} and [[Mt. Ember]], can be found in Mt. Silver.
* The [[Fighting Dojo]] in [[Saffron City]] takes a role similar to the [[Battleground]].

===Gameplay changes===
* All 493 Pokémon are capable of [[walking Pokémon|following players]] similar to [[Red's Pikachu (game)|Pikachu]] in {{v2|Yellow}}. [[Shiny Pokémon|Shininess]] is also retained. In battle, like Yellow's Pikachu, they are sent out from the side of the screen, rather than from a Poké Ball, unless in certain situations, such as while riding the [[bicycle]].
* Similarly to the event {{p|Shaymin}} and {{p|Regigigas}}'s effect on Platinum, the [[Pikachu-colored Pichu]] will unlock an event near the [[Ilex Forest]] [[Ilex Forest Shrine|Shrine]], where the [[Spiky-eared Pichu]] can be obtained.
* The [[Pokémon storage system]], [[bag]], [[party]] interface and the screen that pops up when pressing the ''Start'' or ''X'' buttons in the previous games all use the Nintendo DS's touch screen.
* [[Legendary Pokémon]] from other regions can be caught in the games. {{p|Groudon}} and {{p|Kyogre}} appear in SoulSilver and HeartGold, respectively, after the Elite Four, and {{p|Rayquaza}} can be caught in both games once the other members of [[weather trio|its trio]] are brought into the game. {{p|Latias}} and {{p|Latios}} can be found roaming in [[Kanto]] later in the game.
* {{m|Headbutt}}ing trees to locate certain Pokémon makes its return. However, this time it can also be used to collect Pokémon from [[Hoenn]] and [[Sinnoh]] after the [[National Pokédex|National Dex]] is acquired.
* [[Cynthia]] makes an appearance in an event involving {{p|Arceus}}. This takes place in a new section of the [[Ruins of Alph]] named the [[Shinto Ruins]]. This event allows players to obtain either {{p|Dialga}}, {{p|Palkia}}, or {{p|Giratina}} at level 1. The only way to obtain the Griseous Orb in this game is to choose Giratina during this event.
* The {{OBP|Gracidea|flower}} can be obtained in the flower shop in [[Goldenrod City]] by bringing any [[Nintendo event|event]] {{p|Shaymin}}.
* [[Eusine]], a major character from {{game|Crystal}} who was not in the original Gold and Silver, appears, as do other aspects originally featured in Crystal.
* A new sidequest, the [[Pokéthlon]], features ten mini-games that pit Pokémon in athletic competitions. Its system appears to be analogous to that of {{pkmn|Contests}} from previous games.
* Using the [[Apricorn Shaker]], Apricorns can now also be mixed into drinks that increase Pokémon's Pokéthlon stats.
* [[Berries]] can be grown portably using the [[Berry Planter]], where the [[Squirtbottle]] is controlled via the touch screen to water four Berries at a time. It is currently unknown where Berries can be obtained in the first place, but it appears that they do not grow on the trees where their Generation II counterparts were found, as those are used for growing Apricorns.
* The [[Running Shoes]] are obtained in [[Cherrygrove City]] and can be permanently selected using the touchscreen [[menu]]. The selected item (from pressing Y or SELECT in previous games) is also on the touchscreen. Two items can be selected as opposed to just one.
* The [[Radio Card]] for the Poké Gear is compulsory to continue in the game.
* [[Starter Pokémon]] from [[Kanto]] and [[Hoenn]] can be collected from [[Professor Oak]] and [[Steven Stone]] once certain conditions are met.
* [[Photography|Commemorative photos]] can now be taken around Johto and Kanto with the player's partner Pokémon, team, [[Gym Leader]]s, and certain notable citizens.
* An {{pkmn2|event}}-exclusive {{p|Celebi}} unlocks an encounter with former [[Team Rocket]] boss and Viridian Gym Leader [[Giovanni]]. Giovanni was mentioned repeatedly in the original Gold and Silver, but did not appear.

Like the [[GBA Wireless Adapter]] that came with FireRed and LeafGreen, a bonus is included with the purchase of HeartGold and SoulSilver: a [[Poké Ball]]-shaped {{wp|pedometer}} called the [[PokéWalker]] that has the capacity to link to the two games and hold a Pokémon. Storing a Pokémon in this manner increases its [[experience]] and [[happiness]] as the wearer walks. Other Pokémon can be captured in exclusive Pokéwalker-only areas and then transferred to the main game.

==Pokémon==
As in {{game|Gold and Silver|s}}, the primary Pokémon of the remakes are native to the Johto and Kanto regions. Due to advances in gameplay since the second generation, the regional Pokédex used in Gold and Silver (the [[List of Pokémon by New Pokédex number|New Pokédex]]) has been updated to include those Pokémon which [[evolution|evolve]] upon learning a new [[move]]. Rather than simply excluding these evolutions (as {{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}} did with [[happiness]]-based evolutions), an improved [[List of Pokémon by Johto Pokédex number|Johto Dex]] was established with 256 Pokémon: five more than the New Pokédex.

Similarly to other recently released Pokémon games, Pokémon from outside the regional Pokédex can be captured after defeating the [[Elite Four]] and earning the [[List of Pokémon by National Pokédex number|National Dex]]. Pokémon native to Sinnoh and Hoenn can be found in various methods. [[Mass Outbreak|Swarms]] of Pokémon sometimes break out across the Johto and Kanto regions; oftentimes these are not native to either of the regions. Pokémon from other regions can be located by playing one of two special stations on the [[PokéGear]]'s radio function. There is a channel for Sinnoh Pokémon which plays only on Thursdays; the Hoenn channel only plays on Wednesdays. By having either of these programs turned on when in [[tall grass]] the chance of finding a foreign Pokémon increases. The [[Bug Catching Contest]] also hosts, from time to time, Hoenn and Sinnoh Pokémon. They will only appear on Thursdays and Saturdays. The [[Johto Safari Zone]]'s customization option also allows for the finding of Pokémon from other regions.

In an apparent attempt to remove reliance on [[Generation III]] cartridges, [[starter Pokémon]] of Kanto and Hoenn can be obtained late in the game from [[Professor Oak]] and [[Steven Stone]] respectively. Some [[legendary Pokémon]] which were not included in the [[Generation II]] games, such as {{p|Mewtwo}}, and the more recently released {{p|Latias}} and {{p|Latios}} can also be captured in HeartGold and SoulSilver, respectively.

As in all [[version|main series]] Pokémon game, there are a number of Pokémon which can be found in [[Version-exclusive Pokémon|one of the paired games, but not the other]]. A list of these Pokémon follows below.
{| align="center"
|- align="center" valign="top"
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{| align="center" style="background: #{{heartgold color}}; -moz-border-radius: 1em; border: 3px solid #{{heartgold color light}};"
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! HeartGold
|- align="center"
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{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #{{heartgold color}}; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- align="center"
{{Moveentrytm|056|Mankey|1|Fighting}}
{{Moveentrytm|057|Primeape|1|Fighting}}
{{Moveentrytm|058|Growlithe|1|Fire}}
{{Moveentrytm|059|Arcanine|1|Fire}}
{{Moveentrytm|167|Spinarak|2|Bug|Poison}}
{{Moveentrytm|168|Ariados|2|Bug|Poison}}
{{Moveentrytm|207|Gligar|2|Ground|Flying}}
{{Moveentrytm|226|Mantine|2|Water|Flying}}
{{Moveentrytm|231|Phanpy|1|Ground|}}
{{Moveentrytm|232|Donphan|1|Ground|}}
{{Moveentrytm|302|Sableye|2|Ghost|Dark}}
{{Moveentrytm|343|Baltoy|2|Ground|Psychic}}
{{Moveentrytm|344|Claydol|2|Ground|Psychic}}
{{Moveentrytm|380|Latias|2|Dragon|Psychic}}
{{Moveentrytm|382|Kyogre|1|Water}}
{{Moveentrytm|458|Mantyke|2|Water|Flying}}
{{Moveentrytm|472|Gliscor|2|Ground|Flying}}
|}
|}
|
{| align="center" style="background: #{{soulsilver color}}; -moz-border-radius: 1em; border: 3px solid #{{soulsilver color light}};"
|-
! SoulSilver
|- align="center"
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{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #{{soulsilver color}}; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- align="center"
{{Moveentrytm|037|Vulpix|1|Fire|}}
{{Moveentrytm|038|Ninetales|1|Fire|}}
{{Moveentrytm|052|Meowth|1|Normal|}}
{{Moveentrytm|053|Persian|1|Normal|}}
{{Moveentrytm|165|Ledyba|2|Bug|Flying|}}
{{Moveentrytm|166|Ledian|2|Bug|Flying|}}
{{Moveentrytm|225|Delibird|2|Ice|Flying|}}
{{Moveentrytm|227|Skarmory|2|Steel|Flying|}}
{{Moveentrytm|216|Teddiursa|1|Normal}}
{{Moveentrytm|217|Ursaring|1|Normal}}
{{Moveentrytm|303|Mawile|1|Steel}}
{{Moveentrytm|316|Gulpin|1|Poison}}
{{Moveentrytm|317|Swalot|1|Poison}}
{{Moveentrytm|381|Latios|2|Dragon|Psychic}}
{{Moveentrytm|383|Groudon|1|Ground}}
|}
|}
|}

== Gallery ==
<gallery perrow=4>
File:HGSSstarters.gif|Choosing a [[starter Pokémon]]
File:Startmenu.gif|The touch screen menu, as well as the three starters shown with the player character.
File:Screen3.png|Outside the [[Burned Tower]]
File:Screen5.png|[[Sprout Tower]]
File:Shiny Pichu HGSS event.png|[[Shokotan Pichu|Pichu]] event
File:Goldandsoul.png|{{ga|Gold}} and {{ga|Kotone}} in New Bark Town. "Yeah! How about you show your mom, too?"
File:Goldvssilver.png|Gold vs. {{ga|Silver}} beta. "The passer-by boy challenged you to a battle!"
File:Elmslab.png|Inside Professor Elm's laboratory. "Oh, Soul! I've been waiting for you to come!"
File:Slowpokewell.png|Inside [[Slowpoke Well]]
File:HeartGold SoulSilver Logo.png|English logos
File:HeartGold title.png|HeartGold title screen
File:SoulSilver title.png|SoulSilver title screen
</gallery>

==Trivia==
* These games mark the tenth anniversary since the release of the original {{2v|Gold|Silver}} for [[Game Boy Color]].
* As remakes, these games have been [[Pokémon Gold and Silver remake speculation|speculated]] since the release of {{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}}.
* The games' engine seems to be based on that of {{game|Platinum}}. The reverse happened in [[Generation III]], where {{game|Emerald}} was based on FireRed and LeafGreen's engine.
* As {{2v2|Gold|Silver}} were considered sequels to {{2v2|Red|Green}}, HeartGold and SoulSilver are thus sequels to {{2v2|FireRed|LeafGreen}}.
** Like FireRed and LeafGreen, as well, HeartGold and SoulSilver implement features introduced in their namesakes' third version (though the only major change from Red and Green to [[Pokémon Blue Version (Japanese)|Blue]] was the alteration of the [[catch rate]]s of several Pokémon, itself retained since Blue, whereas {{game|Crystal}} featured several notable differences).
* These games were released in Japan almost exactly one year after the Japanese release of {{game|Platinum}}, being released the day before the anniversary.
* The font used for the English titles of these games are different than the font that has been used since {{game|Ruby and Sapphire|s}}, while the Japanese logos are still in the same style used since those games. FireRed and LeafGreen also used a different font than the Hoenn games, however, it was still the same color.
** Additionally, the Ho-Oh crest shaped like a heart and Lugia soul are used in the English logos, while the fire and leaf that appear on FireRed and LeafGreen's Japanese logos were not used in the English release.
* These games mark the first time that the English versions were announced before the games themselves came out in Japan.
* Because of [[HM05]]'s conversion from {{m|Defog}} to {{m|Whirlpool}}, these games are the only games in which all available HMs teach damaging moves.
* Unlike {{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}}, most [[Trainer class]]es keep their DPPt sprites in battle.
* These are the first games in which major characters offer their Pokémon for a trade with the player, with [[Gym Leader]]s [[Brock]], [[Lt. Surge]], and [[Jasmine]] and [[Hoenn]]'s former champion [[Steven Stone]] offering Pokémon of their specialty type in exchange for another.
* Unlike how {{2v2|FireRed|LeafGreen}}'s intro was an updated version of the opening from {{2v2|Red|Green}}, HeartGold and SoulSilver have an entirely new intro, using none of the footage from the intro of {{2v2|Gold|Silver}}. The intro however, uses some music that was in the original and the title screen displays 3D renders of Ho-Oh and Lugia in movement similar to the original title screens.
* HeartGold and SoulSilver include the [[Champion|champions]] from each of the paired versions: [[Blue (game)|Blue]] from {{2v2|Red|Green}}, [[Lance]] from {{2v2|Gold|Silver}}, [[Steven Stone]] from {{2v2|Ruby|Sapphire}}, and [[Cynthia]] from {{2v2|Diamond|Pearl}}.

==External links==
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* [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/info/game/g090508_01.html Official Japanese Announcement]
* [http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/HeartGold,_SoulSilver_announced_for_America_and_Europe Official English Announcement]
* [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/hgss/ Official Japanese Site]
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release_date_na = Spring 2010 |
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'''Pokémon HeartGold Version''' (Japanese: '''ポケットモンスターハートゴールド''' ''Pocket Monsters Heartgold'') and '''Pokémon SoulSilver Version''' (Japanese: '''ポケットモンスターソウルシルバー''' ''Pocket Monsters Soulsilver'') are paired [[Generation IV]] {{wp|video game remake|remake}}s of the [[Generation II]] games {{game|Gold and Silver|s}}.

Much like {{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}} revisited the [[Generation I]] story of [[Kanto]], HeartGold and SoulSilver retell the story of [[Johto]], with the player's starting area being [[New Bark Town]]. While the games feature several expansions in key areas, the overall plot follows the same direction as the original {{2v2|Gold|Silver}}. Some aspects exclusive to {{v2|Crystal}} are also included. Like FireRed and LeafGreen could link up with {{3v2|Ruby|Sapphire|Emerald}} to complete the Pokédex by trading regionally-exclusive Pokémon, HeartGold and SoulSilver can link up with {{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}} to obtain Pokémon unavailable in Johto and Kanto, such as {{p|Starly}}.

{{ga|Kris}}, despite being the female counterpart of Crystal's player character {{ga|Gold}}, is not included as the female player character, with a {{ga|Kotone|new character}} instead taking her place. Whether she is chosen to be the [[player character]] or not, she will still appear in the game, taking a pseudo-[[rival]] role similar to the unselected characters of [[Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Versions|Ruby, Sapphire]], {{v2|Emerald}}, {{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}.

The games were released on September 12, 2009 in Japan, and are scheduled to be released in spring of 2010 in North America and Europe. The Japanese release date is the same day that {{game|Yellow}} was released in 1998.

==Changes from Pokémon Gold and Silver==
===Aesthetic changes===
* {{ga|Gold}} receives a redesign while {{ga|Kotone|a new player character}} replaces {{ga|Kris}}.
* All the game's music is rearranged to better utilize the DS's sound capabilities. A key item allows the player to switch back and forth freely between the arranged soundtrack and original chiptune soundtrack.
* The [[PokéGear]] has been redesigned. There are a range of skins that can be used and changed at the player's will.
* Much like Kanto's was for its remakes, Johto's Pokédex has been redesigned. Unlike Kanto's remakes, which contained the same [[List of Pokémon by Kanto Pokédex number|regional Pokédex]] as the originals, [[List of Pokémon by New Pokédex number|the original regional Pokédex]] for Johto has been [[List of Pokémon by Johto Pokédex number|slightly altered]], including several [[Generation IV]] evolutions for Pokémon found in Johto.
* An image of certain locations, similar to that of {{v2|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}}, appears when entering the location. Some of these images change depending on the time of day while others change the image of the Pokémon obtainable at the location on the image at random.
* [[Team Rocket Grunt]]s are redesigned once again.
* [[Rocket Executive]]s are also redesigned from Generation II, with four separate ones appearing: [[Athena]], [[Apollo]], [[Lambda]] and {{TR|Lance}}, which the names are based on actual rockets. They also have their own unique battle intros.
* {{p|Ho-Oh}} and {{p|Lugia}} each have their own battle music (they have their own unique battle music), while the [[legendary beasts]] each use a remixed version of their battle theme from {{game|Crystal}}.
* [[Kurt]] and [[Apricorn]]s make a return to the series along with their respective [[Poké Ball]]s. Apricorns can now be carried by the player in their own [[bag]] with a new item, the [[Apricorn Case]].
* All former Berry trees have become [[Apricorn]] trees.
* [[Gym Leader]]s and [[Elite Four]] members have animated battle sprites and battle intros, as in {{v2|Platinum}}. Many [[Gym]]s have been redesigned as well, some with new puzzles.
* {{m|Rock Smash}}, previously a TM usable on the field in the originals, is now a full-fledged HM as it has been since Generation III. {{m|Defog}} loses its HM status to the returning {{m|Whirlpool}}.
* Ambient sound effects are used with greater frequency than in previous games; for example, running water and the player walking through grass will produce audible noises.
* The [[Magnet Train]]'s tracks can be seen overground in locations such as [[Route 32]].
* [[Pal Park]] is located where the closed [[Kanto Safari Zone]] once stood in [[Fuchsia City]].

===Location changes===
* Elm's Lab has an upstairs level, where [[Professor Elm|the professor]] and his family live, his old house being occupied by Kotone/Hibiki and her/his family.
* Maps have been remade to match the design style used in {{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}.
* The {{jo|Battle Tower}} west of [[Olivine City]], introduced in {{game|Crystal}}, returns, bringing with it the {{OBP|Battle Frontier|Generation IV}} similar to the one in Platinum.
* Two new routes, [[Route 47]] and [[Route 48]], are introduced near [[Cianwood City]]. They lead to a new [[Johto Safari Zone|Safari Zone]].
* [[Mt. Silver]] is much bigger and [[Viridian Forest]] is not cut down.
* [[Cerulean Cave]] and the [[Seafoam Islands]] remain as they were in Generation III (though [[Blaine]] still takes part of the Seafoam Islands), allowing the [[legendary Pokémon]] that live inside them to be battled. {{p|Moltres}}, formerly found in {{ka|Victory Road}} and [[Mt. Ember]], can be found in Mt. Silver.
* The [[Fighting Dojo]] in [[Saffron City]] takes a role similar to the [[Battleground]].

===Gameplay changes===
* All 493 Pokémon are capable of [[walking Pokémon|following players]] similar to [[Red's Pikachu (game)|Pikachu]] in {{v2|Yellow}}. [[Shiny Pokémon|Shininess]] is also retained. In battle, like Yellow's Pikachu, they are sent out from the side of the screen, rather than from a Poké Ball, unless in certain situations, such as while riding the [[bicycle]].
* Similarly to the event {{p|Shaymin}} and {{p|Regigigas}}'s effect on Platinum, the [[Pikachu-colored Pichu]] will unlock an event near the [[Ilex Forest]] [[Ilex Forest Shrine|Shrine]], where the [[Spiky-eared Pichu]] can be obtained.
* The [[Pokémon storage system]], [[bag]], [[party]] interface and the screen that pops up when pressing the ''Start'' or ''X'' buttons in the previous games all use the Nintendo DS's touch screen.
* [[Legendary Pokémon]] from other regions can be caught in the games. {{p|Groudon}} and {{p|Kyogre}} appear in SoulSilver and HeartGold, respectively, after the Elite Four, and {{p|Rayquaza}} can be caught in both games once the other members of [[weather trio|its trio]] are brought into the game. {{p|Latias}} and {{p|Latios}} can be found roaming in [[Kanto]] later in the game.
* {{m|Headbutt}}ing trees to locate certain Pokémon makes its return. However, this time it can also be used to collect Pokémon from [[Hoenn]] and [[Sinnoh]] after the [[National Pokédex|National Dex]] is acquired.
* [[Cynthia]] makes an appearance in an event involving {{p|Arceus}}. This takes place in a new section of the [[Ruins of Alph]] named the [[Shinto Ruins]]. This event allows players to obtain either {{p|Dialga}}, {{p|Palkia}}, or {{p|Giratina}} at level 1. The only way to obtain the Griseous Orb in this game is to choose Giratina during this event.
* The {{OBP|Gracidea|flower}} can be obtained in the flower shop in [[Goldenrod City]] by bringing any [[Nintendo event|event]] {{p|Shaymin}}.
* [[Eusine]], a major character from {{game|Crystal}} who was not in the original Gold and Silver, appears, as do other aspects originally featured in Crystal.
* A new sidequest, the [[Pokéthlon]], features ten mini-games that pit Pokémon in athletic competitions. Its system appears to be analogous to that of {{pkmn|Contests}} from previous games.
* Using the [[Apricorn Shaker]], Apricorns can now also be mixed into drinks that increase Pokémon's Pokéthlon stats.
* [[Berries]] can be grown portably using the [[Berry Planter]], where the [[Squirtbottle]] is controlled via the touch screen to water four Berries at a time. It is currently unknown where Berries can be obtained in the first place, but it appears that they do not grow on the trees where their Generation II counterparts were found, as those are used for growing Apricorns.
* The [[Running Shoes]] are obtained in [[Cherrygrove City]] and can be permanently selected using the touchscreen [[menu]]. The selected item (from pressing Y or SELECT in previous games) is also on the touchscreen. Two items can be selected as opposed to just one.
* The [[Radio Card]] for the Poké Gear is compulsory to continue in the game.
* [[Starter Pokémon]] from [[Kanto]] and [[Hoenn]] can be collected from [[Professor Oak]] and [[Steven Stone]] once certain conditions are met.
* [[Photography|Commemorative photos]] can now be taken around Johto and Kanto with the player's partner Pokémon, team, [[Gym Leader]]s, and certain notable citizens.
* An {{pkmn2|event}}-exclusive {{p|Celebi}} unlocks an encounter with former [[Team Rocket]] boss and Viridian Gym Leader [[Giovanni]]. Giovanni was mentioned repeatedly in the original Gold and Silver, but did not appear.

Like the [[GBA Wireless Adapter]] that came with FireRed and LeafGreen, a bonus is included with the purchase of HeartGold and SoulSilver: a [[Poké Ball]]-shaped {{wp|pedometer}} called the [[PokéWalker]] that has the capacity to link to the two games and hold a Pokémon. Storing a Pokémon in this manner increases its [[experience]] and [[happiness]] as the wearer walks. Other Pokémon can be captured in exclusive Pokéwalker-only areas and then transferred to the main game.

==Pokémon==
As in {{game|Gold and Silver|s}}, the primary Pokémon of the remakes are native to the Johto and Kanto regions. Due to advances in gameplay since the second generation, the regional Pokédex used in Gold and Silver (the [[List of Pokémon by New Pokédex number|New Pokédex]]) has been updated to include those Pokémon which [[evolution|evolve]] upon learning a new [[move]]. Rather than simply excluding these evolutions (as {{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}} did with [[happiness]]-based evolutions), an improved [[List of Pokémon by Johto Pokédex number|Johto Dex]] was established with 256 Pokémon: five more than the New Pokédex.

Similarly to other recently released Pokémon games, Pokémon from outside the regional Pokédex can be captured after defeating the [[Elite Four]] and earning the [[List of Pokémon by National Pokédex number|National Dex]]. Pokémon native to Sinnoh and Hoenn can be found in various methods. [[Mass Outbreak|Swarms]] of Pokémon sometimes break out across the Johto and Kanto regions; oftentimes these are not native to either of the regions. Pokémon from other regions can be located by playing one of two special stations on the [[PokéGear]]'s radio function. There is a channel for Sinnoh Pokémon which plays only on Thursdays; the Hoenn channel only plays on Wednesdays. By having either of these programs turned on when in [[tall grass]] the chance of finding a foreign Pokémon increases. The [[Bug Catching Contest]] also hosts, from time to time, Hoenn and Sinnoh Pokémon. They will only appear on Thursdays and Saturdays. The [[Johto Safari Zone]]'s customization option also allows for the finding of Pokémon from other regions.

In an apparent attempt to remove reliance on [[Generation III]] cartridges, [[starter Pokémon]] of Kanto and Hoenn can be obtained late in the game from [[Professor Oak]] and [[Steven Stone]] respectively. Some [[legendary Pokémon]] which were not included in the [[Generation II]] games, such as {{p|Mewtwo}}, and the more recently released {{p|Latias}} and {{p|Latios}} can also be captured in HeartGold and SoulSilver, respectively.

As in all [[version|main series]] Pokémon game, there are a number of Pokémon which can be found in [[Version-exclusive Pokémon|one of the paired games, but not the other]]. A list of these Pokémon follows below.
{| align="center"
|- align="center" valign="top"
|
{| align="center" style="background: #{{heartgold color}}; -moz-border-radius: 1em; border: 3px solid #{{heartgold color light}};"
|-
! HeartGold
|- align="center"
|
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #{{heartgold color}}; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- align="center"
{{Moveentrytm|056|Mankey|1|Fighting}}
{{Moveentrytm|057|Primeape|1|Fighting}}
{{Moveentrytm|058|Growlithe|1|Fire}}
{{Moveentrytm|059|Arcanine|1|Fire}}
{{Moveentrytm|167|Spinarak|2|Bug|Poison}}
{{Moveentrytm|168|Ariados|2|Bug|Poison}}
{{Moveentrytm|207|Gligar|2|Ground|Flying}}
{{Moveentrytm|226|Mantine|2|Water|Flying}}
{{Moveentrytm|231|Phanpy|1|Ground|}}
{{Moveentrytm|232|Donphan|1|Ground|}}
{{Moveentrytm|302|Sableye|2|Ghost|Dark}}
{{Moveentrytm|343|Baltoy|2|Ground|Psychic}}
{{Moveentrytm|344|Claydol|2|Ground|Psychic}}
{{Moveentrytm|380|Latias|2|Dragon|Psychic}}
{{Moveentrytm|382|Kyogre|1|Water}}
{{Moveentrytm|458|Mantyke|2|Water|Flying}}
{{Moveentrytm|472|Gliscor|2|Ground|Flying}}
|}
|}
|
{| align="center" style="background: #{{soulsilver color}}; -moz-border-radius: 1em; border: 3px solid #{{soulsilver color light}};"
|-
! SoulSilver
|- align="center"
|
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #{{soulsilver color}}; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- align="center"
{{Moveentrytm|037|Vulpix|1|Fire|}}
{{Moveentrytm|038|Ninetales|1|Fire|}}
{{Moveentrytm|052|Meowth|1|Normal|}}
{{Moveentrytm|053|Persian|1|Normal|}}
{{Moveentrytm|165|Ledyba|2|Bug|Flying|}}
{{Moveentrytm|166|Ledian|2|Bug|Flying|}}
{{Moveentrytm|225|Delibird|2|Ice|Flying|}}
{{Moveentrytm|227|Skarmory|2|Steel|Flying|}}
{{Moveentrytm|216|Teddiursa|1|Normal}}
{{Moveentrytm|217|Ursaring|1|Normal}}
{{Moveentrytm|303|Mawile|1|Steel}}
{{Moveentrytm|316|Gulpin|1|Poison}}
{{Moveentrytm|317|Swalot|1|Poison}}
{{Moveentrytm|381|Latios|2|Dragon|Psychic}}
{{Moveentrytm|383|Groudon|1|Ground}}
|}
|}
|}

== Gallery ==
<gallery perrow=4>
File:HGSSstarters.gif|Choosing a [[starter Pokémon]]
File:Startmenu.gif|The touch screen menu, as well as the three starters shown with the player character.
File:Screen3.png|Outside the [[Burned Tower]]
File:Screen5.png|[[Sprout Tower]]
File:Shiny Pichu HGSS event.png|[[Shokotan Pichu|Pichu]] event
File:Goldandsoul.png|{{ga|Gold}} and {{ga|Kotone}} in New Bark Town. "Yeah! How about you show your mom, too?"
File:Goldvssilver.png|Gold vs. {{ga|Silver}} beta. "The passer-by boy challenged you to a battle!"
File:Elmslab.png|Inside Professor Elm's laboratory. "Oh, Soul! I've been waiting for you to come!"
File:Slowpokewell.png|Inside [[Slowpoke Well]]
File:HeartGold SoulSilver Logo.png|English logos
File:HeartGold title.png|HeartGold title screen
File:SoulSilver title.png|SoulSilver title screen
</gallery>

==Trivia==
* These games mark the tenth anniversary since the release of the original {{2v|Gold|Silver}} for [[Game Boy Color]].
* As remakes, these games have been [[Pokémon Gold and Silver remake speculation|speculated]] since the release of {{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}}.
* The games' engine seems to be based on that of {{game|Platinum}}. The reverse happened in [[Generation III]], where {{game|Emerald}} was based on FireRed and LeafGreen's engine.
* As {{2v2|Gold|Silver}} were considered sequels to {{2v2|Red|Green}}, HeartGold and SoulSilver are thus sequels to {{2v2|FireRed|LeafGreen}}.
** Like FireRed and LeafGreen, as well, HeartGold and SoulSilver implement features introduced in their namesakes' third version (though the only major change from Red and Green to [[Pokémon Blue Version (Japanese)|Blue]] was the alteration of the [[catch rate]]s of several Pokémon, itself retained since Blue, whereas {{game|Crystal}} featured several notable differences).
* These games were released in Japan almost exactly one year after the Japanese release of {{game|Platinum}}, being released the day before the anniversary.
* The font used for the English titles of these games are different than the font that has been used since {{game|Ruby and Sapphire|s}}, while the Japanese logos are still in the same style used since those games. FireRed and LeafGreen also used a different font than the Hoenn games, however, it was still the same color.
** Additionally, the Ho-Oh crest shaped like a heart and Lugia soul are used in the English logos, while the fire and leaf that appear on FireRed and LeafGreen's Japanese logos were not used in the English release.
* These games mark the first time that the English versions were announced before the games themselves came out in Japan.
* Because of [[HM05]]'s conversion from {{m|Defog}} to {{m|Whirlpool}}, these games are the only games in which all available HMs teach damaging moves.
* Unlike {{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}}, most [[Trainer class]]es keep their DPPt sprites in battle.
* These are the first games in which major characters offer their Pokémon for a trade with the player, with [[Gym Leader]]s [[Brock]], [[Lt. Surge]], and [[Jasmine]] and [[Hoenn]]'s former champion [[Steven Stone]] offering Pokémon of their specialty type in exchange for another.
* Unlike how {{2v2|FireRed|LeafGreen}}'s intro was an updated version of the opening from {{2v2|Red|Green}}, HeartGold and SoulSilver have an entirely new intro, using none of the footage from the intro of {{2v2|Gold|Silver}}. The intro however, uses some music that was in the original and the title screen displays 3D renders of Ho-Oh and Lugia in movement similar to the original title screens.
* HeartGold and SoulSilver include the [[Champion|champions]] from each of the paired versions: [[Blue (game)|Blue]] from {{2v2|Red|Green}}, [[Lance]] from {{2v2|Gold|Silver}}, [[Steven Stone]] from {{2v2|Ruby|Sapphire}}, and [[Cynthia]] from {{2v2|Diamond|Pearl}}.

==External links==
{{bulbanews|game}}
* [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/info/game/g090508_01.html Official Japanese Announcement]
* [http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/HeartGold,_SoulSilver_announced_for_America_and_Europe Official English Announcement]
* [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/hgss/ Official Japanese Site]
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Latias (Pokémon)

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Minimag:

{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Registeel | next=Latios | prevnum=379 | nextnum=381 | type=dragon | type2=psychic}}
{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Latias |
jname=ラティアス |
tmname=Latias |
image=380Latias.png |
caption=Artwork from R/S/E |
pron=<sc>lah-teeyahs</sc> |
ndex=380 |
hdex=196 |
typen=2 |
type1=Dragon |
type2=Psychic |
species=Eon |
height-ftin=4'07" |
height-m=1.4 |
weight-lbs=88.2 |
weight-kg=40.0 |
abilityn=1 |
ability1=Levitate |
ability2= |
egggroupn=0 |
egggroup1=No eggs |
egggroup2= |
eggcycles=120 |
evsd=3|
expyield=211 |
lv100exp=1,250,000 |
gendercode=254|
color=Red |
catchrate=3 |
body=09 |
pokefordex=latias |
generation=3 |
footnotes=}}
'''Latias''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''ラティアス''' ''Latias'') is a dual-type {{2t|Dragon|Psychic}} [[legendary Pokémon]].

It is not known to evolve into or from any other Pokémon.

==Biology==
===Physiology===
Latias is a bird-like dragon Pokémon vaguely resembling {{p|Lugia}}. The lower half of her body is red with jet-plane wings and stubby feet that are similar to ones {{p|Crobat}} has. Latias has a blue triangle-shaped ring on her chest that resembles one of the spots {{p|Togepi}} and {{p|Togetic}} have. Latias's white and red arms can be tucked into her body in order to reduce air-resistance when in flight. The upper-half of Latias's body is white. She has triangle-shaped ears and a red face with a white pentagon in the middle.
====Gender differences====
Latias is a female-only species. Her male counterpart is {{p|Latios}}.

====Special abilities====
Latias comes with the ability {{a|Levitate}}, which causes {{type2|Ground}} [[move]]s to miss.
Latias can enfold her body with glass-like down to refract light and alter her appearance. She is highly intelligent and can understand human speech. She can telepathically communicate with others.
Latias's {{t|Dragon}} and {{t|Psychic}} typing has given her the ability to wield attacks of many different elements (expect for {{t|Fire}}).

In the movie [[Pokémon Heroes|''Pokémon Heroes'']] Latias and Latios also had the ability "Sight Sharing" which allowed Latias and people around her to see exactly what Latios is seeing.

Latias is the [[Signature move|only known Pokémon]] that can learn {{m|Mist Ball}}.

===Behavior===
Latias will form small herds of several members. They will rarely make contact with people or other Pokémon. If Latias senses hostility towards herself, she will ruffle the feathers all over her body and cry shrilly to intimidate her foe. However, she will usually disappear if she senses an enemy.

===Habitat===
[[Image:Watersedge.gif|right|frame|{{DL|List of Pokémon by habitat|Water's-edge Pokémon}}]]
Latias rarely shows herself to humans, so her location is often found in isolated areas, or in secret havens. However, wherever they do make their homes usually has a body of fresh water.

===Diet===
{{main|Pokémon food}}

==In the anime==
[[Image:Latias_2.png‎|thumb|200px|right|{{an|Latias}} in the anime]]
[[Latias (movie 5)|Latias]] has had only made one appearance in the anime so far, in the fifth {{pkmn|movie}}, ''[[Pokémon Heroes]]''. Latias and her brother, [[Latios (movie 5)|Latios]] were the targets of {{mov|Annie}} and [[Oakley]]. Latias assisted {{Ash}} in the mission to save Latios.

==In the manga==
Latias, along with Latios, was befriended by {{Special|Emerald}} and took the young {{pkmn|Trainer}} to the {{ho|Battle Frontier}}. She has appeared in human form a few times as the saga continues.

==In the TCG==
{{main|Latias (TCG)}}

==Other appearances==
===[[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]===
After Latias appears from its [[Poké Ball]], she will fly off the stage. She and Latios will then alternately zoom onto the stage with {{m|Aerial Ace}}, damaging any opponent that collides with them. It may also cause movement of items as well.

==Game data==
===NPC appearances===
* {{g|Pinball: Ruby & Sapphire}}: If the ball drops out of the [[Sapphire Field]] while the "Ball Saver" is active, Latias will rescue it and place it on {{p|Spoink}} without the ball being lost.

===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex
|type=dragon
|type2=psychic
|gen=3
|rubydex=Latias is highly sensitive to the emotions of people. If it senses any hostility, this Pokémon ruffles the feathers all over its body and cries shrilly to intimidate the foe.
|sapphiredex=Latias is highly intelligent and capable of understanding human speech. It is covered with a glass-like down. The Pokémon enfolds its body with its down and refracts light to alter its appearance.
|emeralddex=They make a small herd of only several members. They rarely make contact with people or other Pokémon. They disappear if they sense enemies.
|firereddex=It can telepathically communicate with people. It changes its appearance using its down that refracts light.
|leafgreendex=It can telepathically communicate with people. It changes its appearance using its down that refracts light.
|diamonddex=Its body is covered in a down that can refract light in such a way that it becomes invisible.
|pearldex=Its body is covered in a down that can refract light in such a way that it becomes invisible.
|platinumdex=Its body is covered in a down that can refract light in such a way that it becomes invisible.
|}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability|
type=dragon |
type2=psychic |
gen=3 |
frlgex=rse |
rsrarity=One |
rsarea=[[Southern Island]] (Ruby) {{pkmn2|Roaming}} [[Hoenn]] (Sapphire) |
erarity=One |
earea=[[Southern Island]] or {{pkmn2|roaming}} [[Hoenn]] |
gen4ex=hgss|
hgssex=heartgold|
hgssrarity=One |
hgssarea={{pkmn2|Roaming}} [[Kanto]] |
palarea=Field |
}}
In Pokémon Emerald, the roaming Pokémon is chosen in a sequence immediately after the credits where, after hearing a [[television]] report, the player is asked the color of the Pokémon in it. If red is selected, Latias roams Hoenn and Latios is found at the island. If blue is selected, Latias is found at the island and Latios roams Hoenn.

====In side games====
{{SidegameAvail
|type=Dragon
|type2=Psychic
|channel=[[Cobalt Coast]]
|pinballrs=Randomly on the [[Sapphire Field]]
|trozei=Random Agent Cards [[Mr. Who's Den]]
|md=[[Pitfall Valley]] (25F)
|md2=[[Spacial Rift]] (B10F) [[Happy Outlook]] (B19F){{tt|*|with Mystery Part or Secret Slab in the bag}}
}}

===Held items===
{{HeldItems
|type=Dragon|type2=Psychic|Latias=yes
|re1=Soul Dew|re1type=None|re1rar=100
}}

===Base stats===
{{BaseStats|
type=dragon|
type2=psychic|
HP= 80 |
Attack= 80 |
Defense=90 |
SpAtk= 110 |
SpDef= 130 |
Speed= 110 }}

===Type effectiveness===
{{DP Type effectiveness|
type1=dragon|
type2=psychic|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting=50 |
Flying= 100 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 0 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 200 |
Ghost= 200 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 50 |
Water= 50 |
Grass= 50 |
Electric=50 |
Psychic= 50 |
Ice= 200 |
Dragon= 200 |
Dark= 200 |

notes=yes|
levitate=yes|
newground=1}}

===Learnset===
{{learnset intro|Latias}}
====By [[level|leveling up]]====
{{movelist|dragon|psychic|4|3|Latias}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Psywave|Psychic|Special|—|80|15|Smart|3||}}
{{mlentry4|5|Wish|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|10|Helping Hand|Normal|Status|—|—|20|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|15|Safeguard|Normal|Status|—|100|25|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|20|DragonBreath|Dragon|Special|60|100|20|Cool|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|25|Water Sport|Water|Status|—|—|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|30|Refresh|Normal|Status|—|—|20|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|35|Mist Ball|Psychic|Special|70|100|5|Smart|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|40|Zen Headbutt|Psychic|Physical|80|90|15|Beauty|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|45|Recover|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|50|Psycho Shift|Psychic|Status|—|90|10|Cool|0}}
{{mlentry4|55|Charm|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|60|Healing Wish|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|65|Psychic|Psychic|Special|90|100|10|Smart|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|70|Dragon Pulse|Dragon|Special|90|100|10|Smart|2||'''}}
{{movelist/note|4|dragon|psychic}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{movelisttm|Dragon|Psychic|4|3|Latias}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM02]]|Dragon Claw|Dragon|Physical|80|100|15|Cool|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM03]]|Water Pulse|Water|Special|60|100|20|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM04]]|Calm Mind|Psychic|Status|—|—|20|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM05]]|Roar|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM06]]|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|85|10|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM10]]|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|—|100|15|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM11]]|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|—|—|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM13]]|Ice Beam|Ice|Special|95|100|10|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM15]]|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|5|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM16]]|Light Screen|Psychic|Status|—|—|30|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM17]]|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM18]]|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM20]]|Safeguard|Normal|Status|—|—|25|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM21]]|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM22]]|SolarBeam|Grass|Special|120|100|10|Cool|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM24]]|Thunderbolt|Electric|Special|95|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM25]]|Thunder|Electric|Special|120|70|10|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM26]]|Earthquake|Ground|Physical|100|100|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM27]]|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM29]]|Psychic|Psychic|Special|90|100|10|Smart|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM30]]|Shadow Ball|Ghost|Special|80|100|15|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM32]]|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM33]]|Reflect|Psychic|Status|—|—|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM34]]|Shock Wave|Electric|Special|60|—|20|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM37]]|Sandstorm|Rock|Status|—|—|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM40]]|Aerial Ace|Flying|Physical|60|—|20|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM42]]|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM43]]|Secret Power|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM44]]|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM45]]|Attract|Normal|Status|—|100|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM47]]|Steel Wing|Steel|Physical|70|90|25|Cool|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM51]]|Roost|Flying|Status|—|—|10|Cool|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM53]]|Energy Ball|Grass|Special|80|100|10|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM57]]|Charge Beam|Electric|Special|50|90|10|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM58]]|Endure|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM59]]|Dragon Pulse|Dragon|Special|90|100|10|Smart|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM65]]|Shadow Claw|Ghost|Physical|70|100|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM68]]|Giga Impact|Normal|Physical|150|90|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM70]]|Flash|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM73]]|Thunder Wave|Electric|Status|—|100|10|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM77]]|Psych Up|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM78]]|Captivate|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM82]]|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM83]]|Natural Gift|Normal|Physical|—|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM85]]|Dream Eater|Psychic|Special|100|100|15|Smart|1||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM86]]|Grass Knot|Grass|Special|—|100|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM87]]|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM90]]|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM01]]|Cut|Normal|Physical|50|95|30|Cool|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM02]]|Fly|Flying|Physical|90|95|15|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM03]]|Surf|Water|Special|95|100|15|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM05]]|Defog|Flying|Status|—|—|15|Beauty|2|||DPPt}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM05]]|Whirlpool|Water|Special|15|70|15|Beauty|0|||HGSS}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM07]]|Waterfall|Water|Physical|80|100|15|Tough|3}}
{{movelist/note|4|dragon|psychic}}

====By [[Move tutor|tutoring]]====
{{tutor|dragon|psychic|4b|3|Latias}}
{{mtentry4|Dive|Water|Physical|80|100|10|Beauty|1|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Draco Meteor|Dragon|Special|140|90|5|Smart|2||'''|yes|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Fury Cutter|Bug|Physical|10|95|20|Cool|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Helping Hand|Normal|Status|—|—|20|Smart|1|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Icy Wind|Ice|Special|55|95|15|Beauty|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Last Resort|Normal|Physical|130|100|5|Cute|0|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Mud-Slap|Ground|Special|20|100|10|Cute|3|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Outrage|Dragon|Physical|120|100|15|Cool|2||'''|no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Snore|Normal|Special|40|100|15|Cool|3|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Sucker Punch|Dark|Physical|80|100|5|Smart|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Swift|Normal|Special|60|—|20|Cool|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Trick|Psychic|Status|—|100|10|Smart|0|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Twister|Dragon|Special|40|100|20|Cool|3||'''|no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Zen Headbutt|Psychic|Physical|80|90|15|Beauty|2||'''|no|yes|yes}}
{{tutor/note|4|dragon|psychic}}

===Side game data===
{{Side game|
type=dragon |
ndex=380 |
PinRScatch=yes |
HC=C |
Trozei=yes |
rarity=Rare |
Dungeon=yes |
body=1 |
rate={{tt|N/A|Asks to join the team after being rescued}}|
area=Southern Island |
P1=Please, show me your heart. |
P2=I'm afraid... My health is down by half... |
P3=I can't keep up... Please keep trying when I'm gone... |
PL=I went up a level! It's time to work even harder! |
Partner=no |
Ranger=no |
Dungeon2=yes |
body2=2 |
rate2=0.1% |
iq=D |
}}

===Evolution===
{{Evobox
|sprite1=380
|name1=Latias
|type1-1=Dragon
|type2-1=Psychic
}}

===Sprites===
{{Sprite|
type=dragon|
type2=psychic|
gen=3|
gender=none|
ndex=380|
name=Latias|
}}

==Trivia==
* Even though Latias could shapeshift in the {{pkmn|anime}}, it cannot learn {{m|Transform}}.
* Latias and {{p|Latios}} were the first legendary Pokémon to have set [[gender]]s, or even genders at all.
** Despite this, they belong to the {{egg3|No eggs}}, and cannot breed.
* Latias is one of the few non-{{type2|Flying}}s who can learn {{m|Fly}}. The others are {{p|Mew}}, {{p|Smeargle}} (by {{m|Sketch}}), {{p|Vibrava}}, {{p|Flygon}}, {{p|Latios}}, {{p|Giratina}}, and {{p|Arceus}} (though Arceus can be a Flying-type by holding a {{DL|Plate|Sky Plate}}).
* Before [[Generation IV]], Latias either resisted or was weak to every type classified as special, taking no neutral hits from any. It shares this trait with {{p|Latios}}.
* Despite being legendary Pokémon, regular battle music is played when Latias and {{p|Latios}} are encountered. They share this trait with {{p|Shaymin}} and {{p|Cresselia}}. However,for Latias and latios, this only applies to when they are encountered in the Hoenn based games, when latios and latias are encountered in Heartgold and Soulsilver, the legendary battle music of Kanto will play.
*In [[Generation III]], Latias had two noticebly different back sprites. Its normal sprite shows it with its hand raised, and its shiny sprite doesn't show its hand. This was corrected in Generation IV.
===Origin===
Latias appears to be a cross between a {{wp|jet plane}} and a {{wp|dragon}}, although it and {{p|Latios}} may also draw inspiration from the philosophy of Yin/Yang and psychology of id/ego.
====Name origin====
It is possible that Latias's name is based on the {{wp|Latin}} word ''lateo'', hidden. The ''-as'' suffix in its name indicates that it is female, while the ''-os'' in ''{{p|Latios}}'' indicates that it is male.

==In other languages==
*[[List of German Pokémon names|German]]: Latias
*[[List of French Pokémon names|French]]: Latias
*[[List of Korean Pokémon names|Korean]]: 라티아스 ''Latias''
*[[List of Chinese Pokémon names|Chinese]]: 拉帝亞斯

==Related articles==
* [[Latias (movie 5)]]
* [[Lati@s]]

==Notes==
{{Legendary Pokémon}}
{{Smash Bros.}}
{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Registeel | next=Latios | prevnum=379 | nextnum=381 | type=dragon | type2=psychic}}
{{Project Pokédex notice}}
[[Category:Legendary Pokémon]]
[[Category:Hoenn Legendary Pokémon]]
[[Category:Roaming Pokémon]]
==External links==
*[http://www.doom-desire.net/latias/ Gentle Soul], the approved fanlisting for Latias

[[pl:Latias]]

[[de:Latias]]
[[es:Latias]]
[[fr:Latias]]
[[ja:ラティアス]]
[[pt:Latias (pokémon)]]

Latias (Pokémon)

2009-09-28T20:33:09Z

Minimag:

{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Registeel | next=Latios | prevnum=379 | nextnum=381 | type=dragon | type2=psychic}}
{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Latias |
jname=ラティアス |
tmname=Latias |
image=380Latias.png |
caption=Artwork from R/S/E |
pron=<sc>lah-teeyahs</sc> |
ndex=380 |
hdex=196 |
typen=2 |
type1=Dragon |
type2=Psychic |
species=Eon |
height-ftin=4'07" |
height-m=1.4 |
weight-lbs=88.2 |
weight-kg=40.0 |
abilityn=1 |
ability1=Levitate |
ability2= |
egggroupn=0 |
egggroup1=No eggs |
egggroup2= |
eggcycles=120 |
evsd=3|
expyield=211 |
lv100exp=1,250,000 |
gendercode=254|
color=Red |
catchrate=3 |
body=09 |
pokefordex=latias |
generation=3 |
footnotes=}}
'''Latias''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''ラティアス''' ''Latias'') is a dual-type {{2t|Dragon|Psychic}} [[legendary Pokémon]].

It is not known to evolve into or from any other Pokémon.

==Biology==
===Physiology===
Latias is a bird-like dragon Pokémon vaguely resembling {{p|Lugia}}. The lower half of her body is red with jet-plane wings and stubby feet that are similar to ones {{p|Crobat}} has. Latias has a blue triangle-shaped ring on her chest that resembles one of the spots {{p|Togepi}} and {{p|Togetic}} have. Latias's white and red arms can be tucked into her body in order to reduce air-resistance when in flight. The upper-half of Latias's body is white. She has triangle-shaped ears and a red face with a white pentagon in the middle.
====Gender differences====
Latias is a female-only species. Her male counterpart is {{p|Latios}}.

====Special abilities====
Latias comes with the ability {{a|Levitate}}, which causes {{type2|Ground}} [[move]]s to miss.
Latias can enfold her body with glass-like down to refract light and alter her appearance. She is highly intelligent and can understand human speech. She can telepathically communicate with others.
Latias's {{t|Dragon}} and {{t|Psychic}} typing has given her the ability to wield attacks of many different elements (expect for {{t|Fire}}).

In the movie [[Pokémon Heroes|''Pokémon Heroes'']] Latias and Latios also had the ability "Sight Sharing" which allowed Latias and people around her to see exactly what Latios is seeing.

Latias is the [[Signature move|only known Pokémon]] that can learn {{m|Mist Ball}}.

===Behavior===
Latias will form small herds of several members. They will rarely make contact with people or other Pokémon. If Latias senses hostility towards herself, she will ruffle the feathers all over her body and cry shrilly to intimidate her foe. However, she will usually disappear if she senses an enemy.

===Habitat===
[[Image:Watersedge.gif|right|frame|{{DL|List of Pokémon by habitat|Water's-edge Pokémon}}]]
Latias rarely shows herself to humans, so her location is often found in isolated areas, or in secret havens. However, wherever they do make their homes usually has a body of fresh water.

===Diet===
{{main|Pokémon food}}

==In the anime==
[[Image:Latias_2.png‎|thumb|200px|right|{{an|Latias}} in the anime]]
[[Latias (movie 5)|Latias]] has had only made one appearance in the anime so far, in the fifth {{pkmn|movie}}, ''[[Pokémon Heroes]]''. Latias and her brother, [[Latios (movie 5)|Latios]] were the targets of {{mov|Annie}} and [[Oakley]]. Latias assisted {{Ash}} in the mission to save Latios.

==In the manga==
Latias, along with Latios, was befriended by {{Special|Emerald}} and took the young {{pkmn|Trainer}} to the {{ho|Battle Frontier}}. She has appeared in human form a few times as the saga continues.

==In the TCG==
{{main|Latias (TCG)}}

==Other appearances==
===[[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]===
After Latias appears from its [[Poké Ball]], she will fly off the stage. She and Latios will then alternately zoom onto the stage with {{m|Aerial Ace}}, damaging any opponent that collides with them. It may also cause movement of items as well.

==Game data==
===NPC appearances===
* {{g|Pinball: Ruby & Sapphire}}: If the ball drops out of the [[Sapphire Field]] while the "Ball Saver" is active, Latias will rescue it and place it on {{p|Spoink}} without the ball being lost.

===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex
|type=dragon
|type2=psychic
|gen=3
|rubydex=Latias is highly sensitive to the emotions of people. If it senses any hostility, this Pokémon ruffles the feathers all over its body and cries shrilly to intimidate the foe.
|sapphiredex=Latias is highly intelligent and capable of understanding human speech. It is covered with a glass-like down. The Pokémon enfolds its body with its down and refracts light to alter its appearance.
|emeralddex=They make a small herd of only several members. They rarely make contact with people or other Pokémon. They disappear if they sense enemies.
|firereddex=It can telepathically communicate with people. It changes its appearance using its down that refracts light.
|leafgreendex=It can telepathically communicate with people. It changes its appearance using its down that refracts light.
|diamonddex=Its body is covered in a down that can refract light in such a way that it becomes invisible.
|pearldex=Its body is covered in a down that can refract light in such a way that it becomes invisible.
|platinumdex=Its body is covered in a down that can refract light in such a way that it becomes invisible.
|}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability|
type=dragon |
type2=psychic |
gen=3 |
frlgex=rse |
rsrarity=One |
rsarea=[[Southern Island]] (Ruby) {{pkmn2|Roaming}} [[Hoenn]] (Sapphire) |
erarity=One |
earea=[[Southern Island]] or {{pkmn2|roaming}} [[Hoenn]] |
gen4ex=hgss|
hgssex=heartgold|
hgssrarity=One |
hgssarea={{pkmn2|Roaming}} [[Kanto]] |
palarea=Field |
}}
In Pokémon Emerald, the roaming Pokémon is chosen in a sequence immediately after the credits where, after hearing a [[television]] report, the player is asked the color of the Pokémon in it. If red is selected, Latias roams Hoenn and Latios is found at the island. If blue is selected, Latias is found at the island and Latios roams Hoenn.

====In side games====
{{SidegameAvail
|type=Dragon
|type2=Psychic
|channel=[[Cobalt Coast]]
|pinballrs=Randomly on the [[Sapphire Field]]
|trozei=Random Agent Cards [[Mr. Who's Den]]
|md=[[Pitfall Valley]] (25F)
|md2=[[Spacial Rift]] (B10F) [[Happy Outlook]] (B19F){{tt|*|with Mystery Part or Secret Slab in the bag}}
}}

===Held items===
{{HeldItems
|type=Dragon|type2=Psychic|Latias=yes
|re1=Soul Dew|re1type=None|re1rar=100
}}

===Base stats===
{{BaseStats|
type=dragon|
type2=psychic|
HP= 80 |
Attack= 80 |
Defense=90 |
SpAtk= 110 |
SpDef= 130 |
Speed= 110 }}

===Type effectiveness===
{{DP Type effectiveness|
type1=dragon|
type2=psychic|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting=50 |
Flying= 100 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 0 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 200 |
Ghost= 200 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 50 |
Water= 50 |
Grass= 50 |
Electric=50 |
Psychic= 50 |
Ice= 200 |
Dragon= 200 |
Dark= 200 |

notes=yes|
levitate=yes|
newground=1}}

===Learnset===
{{learnset intro|Latias}}
====By [[level|leveling up]]====
{{movelist|dragon|psychic|4|3|Latias}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Psywave|Psychic|Special|—|80|15|Smart|3||}}
{{mlentry4|5|Wish|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|10|Helping Hand|Normal|Status|—|—|20|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|15|Safeguard|Normal|Status|—|100|25|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|20|DragonBreath|Dragon|Special|60|100|20|Cool|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|25|Water Sport|Water|Status|—|—|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|30|Refresh|Normal|Status|—|—|20|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|35|Mist Ball|Psychic|Special|70|100|5|Smart|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|40|Zen Headbutt|Psychic|Physical|80|90|15|Beauty|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|45|Recover|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|50|Psycho Shift|Psychic|Status|—|90|10|Cool|0}}
{{mlentry4|55|Charm|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|60|Healing Wish|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|65|Psychic|Psychic|Special|90|100|10|Smart|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|70|Dragon Pulse|Dragon|Special|90|100|10|Smart|2||'''}}
{{movelist/note|4|dragon|psychic}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{movelisttm|Dragon|Psychic|4|3|Latias}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM02]]|Dragon Claw|Dragon|Physical|80|100|15|Cool|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM03]]|Water Pulse|Water|Special|60|100|20|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM04]]|Calm Mind|Psychic|Status|—|—|20|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM05]]|Roar|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM06]]|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|85|10|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM10]]|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|—|100|15|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM11]]|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|—|—|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM13]]|Ice Beam|Ice|Special|95|100|10|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM15]]|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|5|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM16]]|Light Screen|Psychic|Status|—|—|30|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM17]]|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM18]]|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM20]]|Safeguard|Normal|Status|—|—|25|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM21]]|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM22]]|SolarBeam|Grass|Special|120|100|10|Cool|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM24]]|Thunderbolt|Electric|Special|95|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM25]]|Thunder|Electric|Special|120|70|10|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM26]]|Earthquake|Ground|Physical|100|100|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM27]]|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM29]]|Psychic|Psychic|Special|90|100|10|Smart|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM30]]|Shadow Ball|Ghost|Special|80|100|15|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM32]]|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM33]]|Reflect|Psychic|Status|—|—|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM34]]|Shock Wave|Electric|Special|60|—|20|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM37]]|Sandstorm|Rock|Status|—|—|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM40]]|Aerial Ace|Flying|Physical|60|—|20|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM42]]|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM43]]|Secret Power|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM44]]|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM45]]|Attract|Normal|Status|—|100|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM47]]|Steel Wing|Steel|Physical|70|90|25|Cool|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM51]]|Roost|Flying|Status|—|—|10|Cool|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM53]]|Energy Ball|Grass|Special|80|100|10|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM57]]|Charge Beam|Electric|Special|50|90|10|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM58]]|Endure|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM59]]|Dragon Pulse|Dragon|Special|90|100|10|Smart|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM65]]|Shadow Claw|Ghost|Physical|70|100|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM68]]|Giga Impact|Normal|Physical|150|90|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM70]]|Flash|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM73]]|Thunder Wave|Electric|Status|—|100|10|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM77]]|Psych Up|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM78]]|Captivate|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM82]]|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM83]]|Natural Gift|Normal|Physical|—|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM85]]|Dream Eater|Psychic|Special|100|100|15|Smart|1||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM86]]|Grass Knot|Grass|Special|—|100|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM87]]|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM90]]|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM01]]|Cut|Normal|Physical|50|95|30|Cool|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM02]]|Fly|Flying|Physical|90|95|15|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM03]]|Surf|Water|Special|95|100|15|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM05]]|Defog|Flying|Status|—|—|15|Beauty|2|||DPPt}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM05]]|Whirlpool|Water|Special|15|70|15|Beauty|0|||HGSS}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM07]]|Waterfall|Water|Physical|80|100|15|Tough|3}}
{{movelist/note|4|dragon|psychic}}

====By [[Move tutor|tutoring]]====
{{tutor|dragon|psychic|4b|3|Latias}}
{{mtentry4|Dive|Water|Physical|80|100|10|Beauty|1|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Draco Meteor|Dragon|Special|140|90|5|Smart|2||'''|yes|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Fury Cutter|Bug|Physical|10|95|20|Cool|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Helping Hand|Normal|Status|—|—|20|Smart|1|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Icy Wind|Ice|Special|55|95|15|Beauty|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Last Resort|Normal|Physical|130|100|5|Cute|0|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Mud-Slap|Ground|Special|20|100|10|Cute|3|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Outrage|Dragon|Physical|120|100|15|Cool|2||'''|no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Snore|Normal|Special|40|100|15|Cool|3|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Sucker Punch|Dark|Physical|80|100|5|Smart|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Swift|Normal|Special|60|—|20|Cool|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Trick|Psychic|Status|—|100|10|Smart|0|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Twister|Dragon|Special|40|100|20|Cool|3||'''|no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Zen Headbutt|Psychic|Physical|80|90|15|Beauty|2||'''|no|yes|yes}}
{{tutor/note|4|dragon|psychic}}

===Side game data===
{{Side game|
type=dragon |
ndex=380 |
PinRScatch=yes |
HC=C |
Trozei=yes |
rarity=Rare |
Dungeon=yes |
body=1 |
rate={{tt|N/A|Asks to join the team after being rescued}}|
area=Southern Island |
P1=Please, show me your heart. |
P2=I'm afraid... My health is down by half... |
P3=I can't keep up... Please keep trying when I'm gone... |
PL=I went up a level! It's time to work even harder! |
Partner=no |
Ranger=no |
Dungeon2=yes |
body2=2 |
rate2=0.1% |
iq=D |
}}

===Evolution===
{{Evobox
|sprite1=380
|name1=Latias
|type1-1=Dragon
|type2-1=Psychic
}}

===Sprites===
{{Sprite|
type=dragon|
type2=psychic|
gen=3|
gender=none|
ndex=380|
name=Latias|
}}

==Trivia==
* Even though Latias could shapeshift in the {{pkmn|anime}}, it cannot learn {{m|Transform}}.
* Latias and {{p|Latios}} were the first legendary Pokémon to have set [[gender]]s, or even genders at all.
** Despite this, they belong to the {{egg3|No eggs}}, and cannot breed.
* Latias is one of the few non-{{type2|Flying}}s who can learn {{m|Fly}}. The others are {{p|Mew}}, {{p|Smeargle}} (by {{m|Sketch}}), {{p|Vibrava}}, {{p|Flygon}}, {{p|Latios}}, {{p|Giratina}}, and {{p|Arceus}} (though Arceus can be a Flying-type by holding a {{DL|Plate|Sky Plate}}).
* Before [[Generation IV]], Latias either resisted or was weak to every type classified as special, taking no neutral hits from any. It shares this trait with {{p|Latios}}.
* Despite being legendary Pokémon, regular battle music is played when Latias and {{p|Latios}} are encountered. They share this trait with {{p|Shaymin}} and {{p|Cresselia}}.For Latias and latios, this only applies to when they are encountered in the Hoenn based games, when latios and latias are encountered in {{p|Heartgold and Soulsilver}}, the legendary battle music of Kanto will play.

*In [[Generation III]], Latias had two noticebly different back sprites. Its normal sprite shows it with its hand raised, and its shiny sprite doesn't show its hand. This was corrected in Generation IV.
===Origin===
Latias appears to be a cross between a {{wp|jet plane}} and a {{wp|dragon}}, although it and {{p|Latios}} may also draw inspiration from the philosophy of Yin/Yang and psychology of id/ego.
====Name origin====
It is possible that Latias's name is based on the {{wp|Latin}} word ''lateo'', hidden. The ''-as'' suffix in its name indicates that it is female, while the ''-os'' in ''{{p|Latios}}'' indicates that it is male.

==In other languages==
*[[List of German Pokémon names|German]]: Latias
*[[List of French Pokémon names|French]]: Latias
*[[List of Korean Pokémon names|Korean]]: 라티아스 ''Latias''
*[[List of Chinese Pokémon names|Chinese]]: 拉帝亞斯

==Related articles==
* [[Latias (movie 5)]]
* [[Lati@s]]

==Notes==
{{Legendary Pokémon}}
{{Smash Bros.}}
{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Registeel | next=Latios | prevnum=379 | nextnum=381 | type=dragon | type2=psychic}}
{{Project Pokédex notice}}
[[Category:Legendary Pokémon]]
[[Category:Hoenn Legendary Pokémon]]
[[Category:Roaming Pokémon]]
==External links==
*[http://www.doom-desire.net/latias/ Gentle Soul], the approved fanlisting for Latias

[[pl:Latias]]

[[de:Latias]]
[[es:Latias]]
[[fr:Latias]]
[[ja:ラティアス]]
[[pt:Latias (pokémon)]]

Oak's Letter

2009-09-22T05:41:24Z

Minimag:

[[Image:Oak's Letter sprite.png|frame|right]]
[[Image:Oakletter.PNG|thumb|Oak's Letter|left]]
'''Oak's Letter''' (Japanese: '''オーキドのてがみ''' ''Okido's Letter'') is an [[Event item|event]] [[key item]] from {{game2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}, received through a [[Nintendo]] {{pkmn2|event}} needed to access [[Seabreak Path]] and [[Flower Paradise]], where {{p|Shaymin}} can be encountered.

To access the Flower Paradise, players must receive the letter from [[Professor Oak]]. When it is in the bag, Professor Oak will be standing at the north of [[Route 224]]. After speaking with him, the player can examine the big rock to bring up a keyboard. Typing anything will cause [[Seabreak Path]] to appear. This is an extremely long road that leads to the very northeast corner of Sinnoh, where Flower Paradise is located. {{p|Shaymin}} is briefly met before exiting the area. When encountered again in the Flower Paradise, Shaymin is Level 30.

It was released over Nintendo Wi-Fi for the first time from April 18 to May 11, 2009 for players of the Japanese version of {{v2|Platinum}}.

It will be availible to players of the English versions of {{v2|Platinum}} via Nintendo Wi-Fi from September 28 to November 8 2009.

====Wonder Card====
{{wondercard|
lang=jap|
ms1=492|
title=<sc>オーキドのてがみ　プレゼント</sc>|
msg=<sc>フレンドリィショップで　うけとったら かならず　レポートを　かこう！ シェイミにであう　ほうほうは ポケットモンスターオフィシャルサイトで かくにん　してね！</sc>|
date=<sc>２００９／０４／１８</sc>}}

==See also==
{{bulbanews|Leaked CoroCoro photos reveal information on new giveaways}}

{{Event Pokémon}}
{{Stub|Game}}
{{Project ItemDex notice}}

[[Category:Items]]

[[fr:Lettre Chen]]
[[ja:オーキドのてがみ]]

Oak's Letter

2009-09-22T05:40:04Z

Minimag:

[[Image:Oak's Letter sprite.png|frame|right]]
[[Image:Oakletter.PNG|thumb|Oak's Letter|left]]
'''Oak's Letter''' (Japanese: '''オーキドのてがみ''' ''Okido's Letter'') is an [[Event item|event]] [[key item]] from {{game2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}, received through a [[Nintendo]] {{pkmn2|event}} needed to access [[Seabreak Path]] and [[Flower Paradise]], where {{p|Shaymin}} can be encountered.

To access the Flower Paradise, players must receive the letter from [[Professor Oak]]. When it is in the bag, Professor Oak will be standing at the north of [[Route 224]]. After speaking with him, the player can examine the big rock to bring up a keyboard. Typing anything will cause [[Seabreak Path]] to appear. This is an extremely long road that leads to the very northeast corner of Sinnoh, where Flower Paradise is located. {{p|Shaymin}} is briefly met before exiting the area. When encountered again in the Flower Paradise, Shaymin is Level 30.

It was released over Nintendo Wi-Fi for the first time from April 18 to May 11, 2009 for players of the Japanese version of {{v2|Platinum}}.

It will be availible to players of the English versions of {{v2|Platinum}} via wi-fi from September 28-November 8.

====Wonder Card====
{{wondercard|
lang=jap|
ms1=492|
title=<sc>オーキドのてがみ　プレゼント</sc>|
msg=<sc>フレンドリィショップで　うけとったら かならず　レポートを　かこう！ シェイミにであう　ほうほうは ポケットモンスターオフィシャルサイトで かくにん　してね！</sc>|
date=<sc>２００９／０４／１８</sc>}}

==See also==
{{bulbanews|Leaked CoroCoro photos reveal information on new giveaways}}

{{Event Pokémon}}
{{Stub|Game}}
{{Project ItemDex notice}}

[[Category:Items]]

[[fr:Lettre Chen]]
[[ja:オーキドのてがみ]]

Oak's Letter

2009-09-22T05:38:56Z

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[[Image:Oakletter.PNG|thumb|Oak's Letter|left]]
'''Oak's Letter''' (Japanese: '''オーキドのてがみ''' ''Okido's Letter'') is an [[Event item|event]] [[key item]] from {{game2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}, received through a [[Nintendo]] {{pkmn2|event}} needed to access [[Seabreak Path]] and [[Flower Paradise]], where {{p|Shaymin}} can be encountered.

To access the Flower Paradise, players must receive the letter from [[Professor Oak]]. When it is in the bag, Professor Oak will be standing at the north of [[Route 224]]. After speaking with him, the player can examine the big rock to bring up a keyboard. Typing anything will cause [[Seabreak Path]] to appear. This is an extremely long road that leads to the very northeast corner of Sinnoh, where Flower Paradise is located. {{p|Shaymin}} is briefly met before exiting the area. When encountered again in the Flower Paradise, Shaymin is Level 30.

It was released over Nintendo Wi-Fi for the first time from April 18 to May 11, 2009 for players of the Japanese version of {{v2|Platinum}}.
It will be availible to players of the English versions of {{v2|Platinum}}.

====Wonder Card====
{{wondercard|
lang=jap|
ms1=492|
title=<sc>オーキドのてがみ　プレゼント</sc>|
msg=<sc>フレンドリィショップで　うけとったら かならず　レポートを　かこう！ シェイミにであう　ほうほうは ポケットモンスターオフィシャルサイトで かくにん　してね！</sc>|
date=<sc>２００９／０４／１８</sc>}}

==See also==
{{bulbanews|Leaked CoroCoro photos reveal information on new giveaways}}

{{Event Pokémon}}
{{Stub|Game}}
{{Project ItemDex notice}}

[[Category:Items]]

[[fr:Lettre Chen]]
[[ja:オーキドのてがみ]]

User talk:The dark lord trombonator/Archive4

2009-09-21T06:05:03Z

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| <big><big><big>'''A WILD <big><big>TROM</big></big> APPEARED!'''</big></big></big>
 
My replies will go here, so make sure to be watching this page. If you're a first-time poster here, I'll leave a note on your talk page too. Next archive planned for October 1.... —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 12:11, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
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== See this ==

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| style="background: #e6e6ff; border-radius-topright: 10px; -moz-border-radius-topright: 10px; padding: 2px 10px;" | {{TP|Brock|Onix|Steelix}} ([[Brock]]) • {{TP|Misty|Starmie}} ([[Misty]]) • {{TP|Lt. Surge|Raichu}} ([[Lt. Surge]]) • {{TP|Erika|Gloom}} ([[Erika]]) • {{TP|Koga|Venomoth}} ([[Koga]])/Crobat ([[Janine]]) 
{{TP|Sabrina|Kadabra}}/Alakazam ([[Sabrina]]) • {{TP|Blaine|Magmar}} ([[Blaine]]) • {{TP|Giovanni|Persian}}/Nidoking? ([[Giovanni]])/<?> ({{ga|Blue}}) 
{{TP|Lorelei|Cloyster}} ([[Lorelei]]) • {{TP|Bruno|Onix}}/Machamp ([[Bruno]]) • Gengar ([[Agatha]]) • {{TP|Lance|Dragonite}} ([[Lance]])
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| style="background: #e6e6ff; padding: 2px 10px;" | {{TP|Falkner|Pidgeot}} ([[Falkner]]) • Scyther ([[Bugsy]]) • {{TP|Whitney|Miltank}} ([[Whitney]]) • {{TP|Morty|Gengar}} ([[Morty]]) 
Poliwrath/{{TP|Chuck|Machoke}} ([[Chuck]]) • Steelix ([[Jasmine]]) • {{TP|Pryce|Piloswine}} ([[Pryce]]) • {{TP|Clair|Dragonair}}/Kingdra ([[Clair]]) 
Xatu ([[Will]]) • Umbreon/Murkrow ([[Karen]])
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This is only the first two regions...working on it...how is it? [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 14:29, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
:Is it really necessary? —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:52, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
::Ehh...debatable for now... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 01:31, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

== Whoops ==

[[User:MisterE13/Sandbox|Here]], I figured out a little something that will work a little better. Sorry about that and thaks for everuthing.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 18:48, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
:Done. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:52, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
::Some new stuff on there now, got rid of some redirects and added Rotom and Castform clauses. BTW, yes I had made one final mistake on the Infobox which is now fixed in my Sandbox I'm 100% sure it will work now though (and Shaymin's page will be perfect{{tt|.|Muhahaha}})--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 01:01, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Which new stuff am I supposed to install? —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:13, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
::::Everything, its kind-of scattered in the first two so I suppose you could copy/paste. If that's no good, most of it was just redirect-avoiding (which I do believe is good). Other than that, it was just Rotom, Castform (and a slight Burmy) clauses.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 03:17, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::Query: What do the "improvements" actually do? Just sprite altering? —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:25, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::A lot of redirects to [[Forme differences]] are avoided (don't know if that's as important as I think it is), putting in 412 automatically inserts a little "Plant Cloak" (for Burmy), the TM one now allows for Rotom (complete with sprites and "Forme differences" links) and they both allow for Castform (links only, obviously). That's pretty much it I think.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 03:41, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::There are yet more last minute modifications in there now. Thanks for the trouble.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 07:20, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
As it turns out, I had made a small placement error. All better now :D.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 15:27, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
:There's something new in there now (no moveentries this time, I promise)--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 14:42, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

== Books ==

Hey Trom, should we start making articles about the Pokémon books? A couple I can name of the top of my head are: Pokémon pop quiz by Carli Entin, and Attack of the prehistoric Pokémon by Tracey West. Actually, could we just make it a project? I could put together a list before you decided if you want. Thanks Trom! -[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 03:43, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:Yeah, definitely go ahead with that. I wouldn't suggest a full-flown project just yet, but maybe we can organise something more formal once some work has actually been done. Tracey West doesn't even have an article yet, so that may be a good place to start. I've read a few of her novelizations (but don't own any), and recall a bibliography on the back. And of course, the internet may be a good resource as well. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:36, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
::[http://www.traceywest.com/biography.html This] and [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=safari&rls=en-us&q=tracey+west+biography&revid=1279369419&ei=_mZMSvfoCYbyMcvY1PYD&sa=X&oi=revisions_inline&resnum=0&ct=broad-revision&cd=4 this] look like a good place to start. I will help with the project if it's created. *wishing I still had all of the books I had by her* --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 07:54, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Wow, that first site looks great! I suppose I'll get started on that article, then. Unless you have already. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:59, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
::::I haven't. And of course that first site looks great. It's her official sight. (lol) --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 08:00, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::Hm. I should get some more sleep. I thought I was talking to the same person then.... D: —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:16, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::lol What's this "sleep" of which you speak? It's 2:20 am here and I'm not tired at all. And it has nothing to do with the Pepsi I'm drinking. *should probably shut up now**goes to edit my userpage a ton (but only one recorded edit, no worries) and possibly create a couple book pages* Should we do pages for [http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Pokemon-Pop-Quiz/Carli-Entin/e/9780439154062 the pop quiz book mentioned above], [http://www.paperbackswap.com/book/details/9780816765270-Pokemon+Activity+Book the activity book], [http://www.amazon.com/How-Draw-Pokemon-Tracey-West/dp/0439434408 the how to draw Pokémon book (by Tracey West)], and/or [http://www.amazon.com/Pokemon-Official-Collectors-Sticker-Book/dp/0439106591 the sticker book]? --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 08:29, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::How about you try and do the lot? Keep up the quality, though. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:44, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Okay. They might not be very good, as there isn't much important stuff to write about (I believe). --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 08:48, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

OK, thanks Trom. I can probably get my hands on a couple of the books but will start out with just a list of to-do stuff. Thanks again, and get yourself some sleep! –[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 16:36, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:Trom, I made a [[User:MasterKenobi/Project Books/To-do list| To-do list]] and have quite a bit more to add. I think, that I could probably make a project out of this if I get an OK. Here is the first book article, [[Island of the Giant Pokémon (book)]] but, I think to make it look a bit better we could use a template that includes the title, book cover image, pages, publication date, ISBN # (This one I think isn't really needed), and publisher. For the series books though we could make it like the anime or the manga where it links to the book before it and after it. -[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 19:22, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

== Quick question ==

Do you know how to link directly to a category on a userpage without it getting included and making it appear? I'm trying to extend list of (non talk) pages I've created on my userpage, but it won't show the category pages. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 08:37, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:{{template|cat}}. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:44, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
::Thanks! --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 08:51, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

== A Question ==

Three things (not all questions). First, how do you use special characters in the search boxes? Second, one of the pictures on your userpage doesn't display. Third, if there is supposed to be a Haunter pic on this page its not working and just says purplehaunter.png or something like that.--[[User:Swampert rox|Swampert rox]] 16:39, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
:The images are your problem, not mine. They all display for me. Try clearing your browser cache (Ctrl+F5). If, by special characters you mean the e-acute (é) you can either copy-paste from somewhere else, or you can type Alt+130. These can all be found in the character map for Windows. If you're on a Mac, I can't help you with that. There's probably a list on the internet of every special character ever created and the accompanying codes. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:49, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
::For Mac: The é is option-e-e. I use it all the time. Other symbols can be gotten by other option- combinations. All the letter keys plus have special chars. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 03:03, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
:::If you mean Alt + 1 + 3 + 0, it doesn't work. If that's not what you meant, what do I type?--[[User:Swampert rox|Swampert rox]] 21:19, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
::::I think he means to hold the Alt key and type 130 in that order, not all at once. I've never tried that method, though. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 21:22, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::Doesn't work (or do anything whatsoever).--[[User:Swampert rox|Swampert rox]] 14:58, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::Then something's up with your computer. I'd love to fix it, but... um.... yeah..... —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 05:18, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Alt+0233 can be used as an alternative for the e-acute. '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 05:20, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::::You have to use the numberpad to type the numbers, not the row at the top of the keyboard. If you are using a laptop which doesn't have a numberpad then you can buy a usb one quite cheaply, or just cope with the redirects that should have been created. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] 05:37, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::Most laptops have an Fn key anyway, which activates keys differently. It's what I use: I gotta hold Fn and Alt and hit jlm. é. Happy daaaaay! '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:08, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::That doesn't work for me either. Is there any alternative way for a laptop?--[[User:Swampert rox|Swampert rox]] 11:49, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

== Sorry again ==

Did I apologize for my behavior. I had not realized that I could not make other changes. I do not speak English well and I find it difficult to understand at times. Sorry again for my ignorance. --[[User:Brendon|Brendon]] 8.35, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

== yukushi wisdom ==
Thanks for your help. Actually, since I don't edit much in Bulbapedia, I was considering canceling my account. That's why I was editing. I didn't realise that I was doing it in my fake name lol but anyways thaks for everything. {{SUBST:User:Uxie wisdom/sig}} 23:57, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
:Accounts can't be canceled, unfortunately. Just go away and never come back :P If you want those subpages you blanked deleted, I can handle that for you. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:07, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

== Slight problem ==

Well, it's not really a problem but, Trombony, I might need an option of no image (in which cse we might wanna colspan it). See [[Cissy]] to get what I mean. Many thanks. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 00:23, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
:It shouldn't be too hard to get an image. I'll dig around, watch the episode and get good screenshots. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:58, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
::Yes, of course we can get the image. But the template is gonna be in a much wider use, and we're gonna have a lot of similar cases... But yeah, it's not too bad, just leaves some whitespace. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 10:21, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
::Well I see that that's already fixed, but a few other things (sorry I'm being difficult, but I demand perfection :)), when you get the time: first, there's the subject of nicknamed Pokémon, like [[Ritchie]]'s. I don't want the image caption to read "Ritchie's Sparky", I want it to read "Sparky", and the same for the main article link.
::Second: Apparently I need the number of "="s on the section headers to be changeable. In most articles it should be the way you did it, but in some I need it to be one level lower.
::Last but not least - check what happens if someone clicks the "edit" link in one of the sections... Is that supposed to be like that? --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 11:25, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
::: *clicks edit* woah! Yeah, not good. We can fix that with a NOEDITSECTION magicword. We can set the image to default as noimage; although imageneeded may be better than a white gap. I'll add an optional parameter such as {{{nick}}}, which should hopefully override the current hovercaption formatting. There can also be optional parameters for lower headings. Can you show me an example of where that would be in place? It won't help the construction of the template; I'm just curious. :P
:::You probably didn't understand a word of that. Probably because I made up most of the terminology. Lol. I doubt I'll catch you on AIM this weekend so I'll either work through it when I have time, or catch up with you later. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:29, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
::::Yeah, the reason I'm writing to you here is because we keep missing each other on AIM lately, and I figured it's best to let you know... So, here we go:
::::# The way you just canceled the section headers is no good. The reason I wanted section headers is because [[Casey's Elekid]], [[Drew's Absol]], etc, redirect to that specific Pokémon in the template. Get it? So put back the sectionheaders with that nice magicword of yours, please.
::::# Seems like {{u|Sol}} took care of the image thing for now.
::::# The {{{nick}}} parameter sounds great. Do it.
::::# Lower heading would come in case that the character exists in more than one media, AND has Pokémon not on hand. Why? Because then the headings go: <nowiki>==In the anime==, ===Pokémon===, ====On hand====,</nowiki> and just THEN the Pokémon should be. {{Gary}} is the best example I can think of right now.
::::So you see Trombodude, you're underestimating my comprehension skills. I understand you kiwi wiki terminology just fine. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 12:27, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::The problem with the magicword, I later realised, is that it will cancel all section headers for the entire page. I think I may have an idea for the headings, too. I'll experiment, and get back to you later in the week. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:23, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::Believe it or not Tromizard, but I actually managed to code everything myself ^^; so, no worries. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 21:58, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

== HGSS ==

* Can you add something to the [[Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver|HGSS]] page saying something about the game containing both leafy trees and autumn trees? --[[User:swampert_rox|Swampert]] [[Swampert (Pokémon)|=]] [[User talk:Swampert_rox|awesome]] ([[User:PhoenixGraphix#{{ucfirst:Daily (bleh)}}|bl]][[Special:Random|eh]]) 19:28, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

== Redirects ==

Please be a bit more careful when trying to turn articles into redirects. I had to restore the article on [[Camerupt Point]] you had changed into a redirect because you made it redirect to Camerupt Point, hence causing an infinite redirect loop. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 23:12, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
:Whoops; it was meant to go to [[Camerupt Mountain]]. Confuzzling :( —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:14, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

== Pokémon Black Market ==

If the article was full of speculation and all that, then slap a cleanup tag on it instead of deleting it! The Pokémon Black Market is a factual part of the Pokémon universe and thus is worthy of its own article. Could you restore it, please? [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 23:28, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
:They'd be nothing left if all the speculation was removed. All you'd have left to say would be "The Pokémon black market is a black market for Pokémon which was talked about in DPxyz." I don't consider that to be article-worthy. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:29, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
::There's also the fact about Snorunt being worth top dollar on it. Besides, it's not like the speculation in question was baseless. If Glalie was worth as much as or more than Snorunt on the market, the hunter would've just sold his own Glalie, rather than going to the trouble of snatching Snorunt. If Carnivine, Yanmega, Pikachu, Chimchar, or Buneary were worth as much as or more than Snorunt, then the hunter would've tried to take them as well. If anything, that could be confined to a trivia section. Plus, there's [[Dustox Flower Field|much worse]] in the way of stubs. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 23:36, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
:::I didn't say it wasn't baseless; in fact I think they are perfectly reasonable assumptions. However, they remain just that. Perhaps the hunter hadn't realised that he could have sold Glalie, or perhaps he was sentimentally attached to it, or perhaps he just got a thrill from stealing Pokémon. These things are as unknown as the conclusions you have jumped to. If the information about Snorunt isn't mentioned on {{p|Snorunt|this page}} I'd suggest putting them there.
:::And yes, there are millions of stubs out there, and we are doing our best to clean them up (hence "featured stub" on the main page). It'd be great if you could give us a hand. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:40, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
::::It's not that I wouldn't love to, it's half the time I find a stub, I usually don't know too much information what that can be added to it. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 23:49, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
== Talk archive image ==
See what's in <nowiki></nowiki>'s. Just thought it might be easier for ya.--'''[[User:Immewnity|''Mew'']] [[User talk:Immewnity|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|Immewnity]]''' was here at 01:34, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
:Amazing. No more pretend transparent! Cheers. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:03, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

== Edit again ==

Sorry, but I missed something with that change in {{template|bulbanews}}. See [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Bulbanews&curid=78999&diff=815279&oldid=815276 this]. Thanks. [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 02:16, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
:Done. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:41, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

== Thank you ==

Thanks for blocking I am Missingno. I annoys me so much when people mess up pages, especially an entire page. Anyway, thanks for putting a stop to the vandalism. --[[User:RiverAura|*River*]] [[User_Talk:RiverAura|*Aura*]] 20:52, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
:That's ok. I hadn't planned to pop in today, but I'm glad I did. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:53, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
::I would also like to extend my gratitude for quick action. He also touched both of our userpages. If you want, you can clear my history of the vandalism. Thanks again. By the way, the line I put for "Get off this wiki!" is a pun of Steve Wilkos telling bad guests "Get off my stage!" Just a thought. --[[User:Rockersk08|rock]][[User talk:Rockersk08|ersk]][[Special:Contributions/Rockersk08|08]] 20:56, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Both done. Thanks to all involved. Now, move along, folks. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:02, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
:::: I forgot to mention {{p|Pikachu}} Sorry about that. --[[User:Rockersk08|rock]][[User talk:Rockersk08|ersk]][[Special:Contributions/Rockersk08|08]] 21:04, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

== Trom old boy, ==

How do you set the size of the table of contents? Places like {{m|Double-Edge}} are getting a bit out of hand.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 03:01, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
:I don't know if it's possible to do that. You can set your preferences up, however, to autohide all TOCs. It's under Misc. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:05, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
::Oh, yours seemed squished (maybe its just your big purple box). Should I just not write "Gale of Darkness" then?--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 03:07, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Oh, yeah, it's just been squished. I guess you could put it into an invisible table and set the width there... but that'll just make extend downwards further, which would be worse, IMO. Don't abbreviate the game name too far. Aside from the fact that it takes up my whole screen, there's no huge problem. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:10, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
::::PK, just realized I can take out "Pokémon" #2 :D.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 03:11, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

== Chuck Norris ==

Username similar, just swapped the first few letters...how about it? Remove or keep? [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 03:20, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
:Give him a chance, probably just a coinicidence; who wouldn't want to be named after the world's greatest human being?--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 03:22, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
::I heard MediaWiki blocking powers don't work on Chuck Norris. IDK about his fanboys, so let's leave him for now. Don't want to break the server or anything. Chances are he won't do anything. If he does, we can jump him then. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:23, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
::: You guys wouldn't be talking about me, would you? Considering that ht14 posted about 12 minutes after I joined, I would say that's likely. Well, if you are talking about me, don't worry, I'm not a n00b, all I want to do is give back to the website which has helped me so much when playing through the Pokémon games. I'm not new to Wikis either; I'm a member on Wikipedia, and I've even almost entirely rewritten an article there ({{wp|Whirled}}), and edited a few others. [[User:Nuck Chorris|Nuck Chorris]] 04:27, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

::::I don't see a problem. Use your own judgement on this one, trom, since it's on your TP, but it's clearly not an ''impersonation''. --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 04:30, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::Impersonating {{u|Chuck Norris}}? Or {{wp|Chuck Norris}} himself? Is {{u|Chuck Norris}} a high-standing member? If so, I apologize for any apparent impersonation, all I did was I checked to see if I'd already registered here by looking for usernames beginning with "Nuck". Also, Trom, I can say from experience that the banhammer works on me, considering I have felt its wrath on Kingdom of Loathing. Don't worry, it was for taking a controversial debate too far. I doubt the banhammer would work on Chuck Norris himself, though. Even if it did, I woudn't want to try it on him. He'd probably be standing right behind you, in the middle of roundhousing you, even before the banhammer was swung. WATCH OUT FOR HIM!!!! —– [[User:Nuck Chorris|Nuck Chorris]] ([[User talk:Nuck Chorris|talk]]) 05:11, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

::::::The real one. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 05:21, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::I live in fear of him every day. Speaking of which, he's right behind me right now! Holy S***!!! Oh, wait... thats just the back of my chair. Nevermind... False alarm... Anyways, I've got more maps to work on now, so carry on without me. —– [[User:Nuck Chorris|Nuck Chorris]] ([[User talk:Nuck Chorris|talk]]) 05:41, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

== Why? ==

Do you removed the image of Twinleaf Town from Platinum.[[User:Mario136|Mario136]] 18:51, 30 July,2009 (UTC)
:Despite the fact that it's from the latest game, it was of a lower quality and had giant arrows on it. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 19:46, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

== Equivalent to Wikipedia's {{wp|Template:Superseded-Image}}? ==

Trom – since you were the one who welcomed me, and you seem to be fairly active and helpful – do you know if Bulbapedia has an equivalent to Wikipedia's {{wp|Template:Superseded-Image}}? I uploaded a higher-quality map for [[Eterna Forest]] ([[a:Image:EternaForest.png]]), but the old one still exists (Image:Eterna Forest.png). On Wikipedia, I know you'd just tag the old image with {{wp|Template:Superseded-Image}}, but as I can't find that or something similar on Bulbapedia or Bulbagarden Archives, I don't know what to do. Any ideas? [[User:Nuck Chorris|Nuck Chorris]] 04:33, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
:Nah, you'd just mark it for deletion and say in the edit summary that you uploaded a better one. Which image is this? I'll get it for you.--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[User talk:RexRacer|Racer''']] 04:35, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
::Haha, just saw you linked it.--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[User talk:RexRacer|Racer''']] 04:36, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
::: Thanks! I assume I use <nowiki>{{delete}}</nowiki> to mark it for deletion, right? —– [[User:Nuck Chorris|Nuck Chorris]] ([[User talk:Nuck Chorris|talk]]) 05:02, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Yep.--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[User talk:RexRacer|Racer''']] 05:41, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

== Code help ==

Since you've already been so helpful in reducing my signature to nothing more that purple writing, I should ask how you get a coloured background on your userpage :P thanks in advance --[[User:Dragon Master|'''Dragon]]''' [[User talk:Dragon Master|'''Master]]''' 12:43, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
:[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Dragon_Master&diff=prev&oldid=822131 Replied] on your talk page. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:15, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

== Re:Signature ==
thanks! it works now!--[[User:Rotom45|Rotom]][[User Talk:Rotom45|Let me get the lawnmower!]] 01:59, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
:[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rotom45&diff=prev&oldid=822132 Replied] on your talk page. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:15, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

dont worry. i'll follow Bulbapedia's rules and respect it's policy!--[[User:Rotom45|Rotom]][[User Talk:Rotom45|Let me get the lawnmower!]] 02:16, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

== Idea ==

Since I'm not very good at coding, I thought I could give you an idea; the big list of moves on the [[List of moves|List of moves article]] could possibly be reconstructed on the [[Contest category| Contest category article]], but with only move name and contest type (without power, accuracy, fughting type, etc.) Do you think that is a good idea and would you be able to do that/find someone to do that? If not I can have a go, but as I say, I'm not very knowledgable in that area. Thanks --[[User:Dragon Master|'''Dragon]]'''[[User talk:Dragon Master|'''Master]]''' 09:11, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
:I've been working on compiling a list similar to the one near the bottom of, say {{t|Rock|this page}}, for contests. It's largely incomplete and in [[User:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/Hell|a sandbox]]. This is largely a copy-and-paste job from the moves' individual articles designed to tidy up articles like [[Cool Contest]], so feel free to chip in if you want. I haven't touched it for about half a year... —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 11:44, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

== Undoing my changes. ==

I was wondering why some Pokémon pages auto-forward, and some don't. Help?
--[[User:FromCrimsonToWool|FromCrimsonToWool]] 03:07, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:We call it ''redirecting''. If a Pokémon exists in another media, typically the anime (e.g. [[Ash's Pikachu]]) or manga (e.g. [[Poochyena (CCP)]]), the page doesn't redirect and serves as a ''disambiguation''. This is done because if someone searches for, say, Bulbasaur, they may be looking for {{OP|Ash|Bulbasaur}}, {{OP|May|Bulbasaur}}, [[Saur|one from the manga]], or simply the {{p|Bulbasaur|species}}. Think of it as kind of a signpost. Not all Pokémon are special enough though (e.g. [[Paras]]), so they don't have the disambiguation page as searchers will clearly be looking for the article about the species. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:13, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Okay, so how, and thus where, do we all draw the line? Also, why not just include a link at the top of the pokémon page for something like that?--[[User:FromCrimsonToWool|FromCrimsonToWool]] 03:30, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:Generally if a Trainer's Pokémon has an article, the Pokémon page gets disambiguated. This is our system, and this is how it's worked for a couple of years. There was a poll about this less than two years ago, when the users had the chance to vote about this. For [[Bulbapedia talk:Disambiguation poll|many reasons]], this is what we came up with. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:38, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
::That is an argument that has gone on since the beginning. It was decided that changing it would upset more people than it does keeping it the same. It would also make soooo many things much harder. It is something that is set in stone, and will never change. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 03:38, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
Hokay. Thanks. I just kind of figured that there would have been more support for it to be the other way around, as in more game centric.--[[User:FromCrimsonToWool|FromCrimsonToWool]] 03:51, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

== Brendan ==

Holy crap man... you just helped more than you know, doing those party templates. I was gonna try to get them done in the next few days, and you just made my life easier. I know that you didn't make any mistakes other than that one getting the Pokémon mixed up, but I'm gonna go over it once more tomorrow just for yucks. Seriously though, thanks. x-x '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 04:11, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:If there was something wrong, it'll have been wrong on May's page too. It was a direct copy-paste. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 05:25, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

::Crappit. *checks May* Yeah... oh well. Fixed now. Still, thanks for that. Oops. And I forgot, Brendan has a slightly different team than May. I'll change that too... '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 19:00, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:::Different? Really? How odd. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:06, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

::::Don't worry about it. I shoulda caught it last night, but I had just gotten home from the airport a few hours earlier. That's my fault, not yours. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 20:23, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

== ABC ==

Sorry about all this constantly running-ideas-by-you thing, but I just dont yet feel its my place to go changing Bulbapedia without guidance. Anyway, do you think the list on [[List of game characters|this page]] should be alphebatised? If so, let me know on [[User talk:Dragon Master| my talk page]] and I'll get right on to it...Thanks--[[User:Dragon Master|'''Dragon]]'''[[User talk:Dragon Master|'''Master]]''' 07:21, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:That's already. I enjoy being able to help. The answer is "Nope". It appears to be on an importance-first basis. It's fine as is. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:05, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

::I've got one, mostly for my education. Would this question have been better placed on the Talk tab of said page?--[[User:FromCrimsonToWool|FromCrimsonToWool]] 10:15, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

:::Well, yeah, if you wanna get all literal on me... :P --[[User:Dragon Master|'''Dragon]]'''[[User talk:Dragon Master|'''Master]]''' 12:09, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Actually, now I look and think about it, the more it seems like the list is in order of which comes first and when you meet them etc. --[[User:Dragon Master|'''Dragon]]'''[[User talk:Dragon Master|'''Master]]''' 12:10, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::FCTW: That's the way talk pages are meant to function. However, an article that obscure may not get noticed. I personally have no problem with people bringing things up on my talk page. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:06, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::Got it, thank you. {{unsigned|FromCrimsonToWool}}

==Shinx Comment==
I was trying to see if anyone thought it was interesting enough to put in trivia, not chatting it up. --[[User:Crystal_Shards|'''Crystal Shards''']] 16:52, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:Either way, X looks like Y trivia is an opinion. That kind of thing isn't allowed, because two people may see things differently. We try and be objective. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:06, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
::Could have explained that earlier instead of just taking it out. --[[User:Crystal_Shards|'''Crystal Shards''']] 22:42, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:::That's how things get done here. Unacceptable comments are removed, to prevent people abusing the talk page for discussion about the subject of the article, rather than its content. This is all explained in that lovely green welcome on the top of your usertalk page. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:58, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Yeah I read that; thanks anyway. Too bad we just had a different definition of "unacceptable" at that point in time. --[[User:Crystal_Shards|'''Crystal Shards''']] 01:35, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

== Template ==

I've created a template {{template|HeldItems}}. I need work on a parser, the Gen I one. After that, we can all insert the stuff accordingly. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 21:02, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
:Once that's done, I'll organize the held items according to items (category). [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 21:03, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
::Final thing. I also need another section for Pokemon with 2 possible held items. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 21:05, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
:::Sorry Trombonator, I couldn't sleep and felt the need to handle this one (with a little help from {{u|TTEchidna|a certain echidna}}). {{unsigned|MisterE13}}
::::Sigh... clearly you guys totally missed the fact that I'd already created one... template:held item... —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:54, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::Ironic how I even posted on that template talk page... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 01:49, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::And in its section on my third talk archive. Seeing as it's apparently nicer, I've unprotected it to allow you to make any changes you wish. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:51, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Cool....Gen II has weird percentages though...8%...I dunno how to handle that... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 01:53, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Are they standard, or different per Pokémon? If they are the same we can have it set up to use the tt template. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:54, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Seems to be different unfortunately...Sacred Ash/Leftovers for instance for Ho-oh/Snorlax. 100%. Speaking of which...Numel and Vulpix are 100% also...so scratch that. That method isn't that great... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 01:59, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::There is a clause in there for 100%. Or, at least, I had one drafted. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:00, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:Oh. Did you see the ones where I used the template? As of now though, just protect it. I'm not the greatest with tables... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 02:02, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::I've actually been doing some work on ht's. Unfotunately, I think third versions can be different than the other two. Should we seperate?--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 02:03, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:::Umm...not only that...Elekid and Magby...though minor problem. More major issue may be images and redirects...Stardust... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 02:05, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Images should all have standard filenames. If you spot any more that aren't, let me know. The D/P mismatch could potentially be solved with a footer. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:12, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::Right...Nugget? Also...berries...most of the held items are berries. With the format right now...t's not linking to it... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 02:15, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::Yes, nuggets and berries are now named correctly. The correct filename is File:Bag Name Sprite.png. I like what MisterE13 did with the itemtype. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:19, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Sorry and thanks...Soft Sand...Poison Barb...type-enhancing items...all right. Just protect it...I can't take this right now... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 02:20, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::::They got done a while ago. I've decided to leave it open. MisterE or tc may want to play. If anyone else wants to take a stab, be my guest. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:23, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:Right. One last thing. Can you categorize the Template:Held item/100 as {{cat|Pokémon with wild held items}}. Thanks for everything. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 02:28, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::Way ahead of you there. :P —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:29, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:::XD Problem...as I was saying before...Sentret...Berry leads to Berries, which is what we're not talking about here... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 02:32, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Last thing. GSC didn't have sprites... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 02:33, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::Just finished fixing. Actually, I'm doing a lot of work on it right now so you might want to wait a bit before asking fo anything else :).--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 02:41, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::OK. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 02:44, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::: *hopes it's not too late* Shards. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 03:09, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Yellow and Red are fine but the others were uploaded in .gif format. If you can fix that (you were the original uploader, after all), tag the old ones with {{template|delete}} and replace the links. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:11, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::Done. So it'll be <nowiki>[[Image:Bag_<color>_Shard_Sprite.png]]</nowiki>. Unless you want to move it and make it simpler that is... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 03:21, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
I've started a three step plan I conceived last night to perfect this template. I just need to know if there are any version-exclusives other than the Light Ball in Gen I, the Soul Dew in Gen III, and the Magmarizer/Electrizer in Gen IV? This would include any item with different rates or found on a different Pokémon.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 18:34, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
::I would think that's it. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 18:51, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
:::It's done you know, does anyone need a walkthrough?--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 02:46, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
::::I can probably figure it out. If you haven't, though, you should post it noincluded on the template page so when we are dead and gone and the fourteenth generation is being released, the Bulbapedians of the future can figure it out. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:14, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::LOL to that. If the world lasts that long anyway... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 19:38, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

== News Page discussion ==

Hey trom, I made a comment here (http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Many_features_to_return_to_HeartGold,_SoulSilver) about the latest news from CoroCoro magazine when you get a chance. Provided a bit of translation to clear up any speculation/confusion. :)

Also, how the hell do you sign comments on here. :| {{unsigned|Gimmetokyo}}

:Use <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. Either type them, or use the thing under the text box. Both of them work. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 18:39, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

== I am sorry! ==

I won't do it again. But I get back soon.--[[User:Pokelover195|Pokelover195]] 20:38, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
:{{wp|Little Britain|Computer says no}}. You abused our trust. You have to earn it back. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:39, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
Ok. I agree. --[[User:Pokelover195|Pokelover195]] 23:04, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

But how can I earn it back? --[[User:Pokelover195|Pokelover195]] 19:16, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
:You need to edit the articles. Any page that doesn't have a prefix in front of it, like {{p|Pikachu|this one}}, [[Wiki Berry|this one]], [[Route 103|this one]] or [[Special:Random|this one]]. Start with what you know, and go from there. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:04, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

== Hey Trom! ==

Did you have a sandbox. or not on your userpage. Because I want to check out user's Sandbox. --[[User:Pokelover195|Pokelover195]] 21:08, 9 August 2009 (UTC)-
:Nope. To be honest, you don't need one; you are currently unable to edit any pages in the userspace (that is to say, any page prefixed by <code>User:</code>). In any regard, a sandbox is just a testing area. People have different things in them depending on what they are working on. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:12, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

== Random thing ==

For berries on the actual berries page, should we leave it the way it is or use sprites from [http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/rsberryspr.html here]? It's for consistency with the e-Reader berries. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 03:59, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:Ask the {{u|RexRacer|Project Leader}}. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 09:19, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

==*space reserved for Arceus99*==
Hey Dark Lord i didn't delete ur page or anything it must have been my younger brother he seems to hack into my account easily
anyway i apologize -Arceus99
:guys belive me i dint edit ur page my brothers a computer geek
Arceus99
::I suggest you get a password he can't guess then. If we see you removing stuff again, the account will be blocked, regardless of who did it. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:13, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

ok-arceus99

== Arceus and the Jewel of Life ==

Just because you're a sysop doesn't mean you can disregard the rules and revert confirmed and relevant edits. --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 22:02, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:I haven't disregarded any rules. The page was undergoing an edit war, and as per our procedures it has been left at its original state. As you are no doubt aware there is a discussion on the talk page. This was going on before you jumped in, and is still now. The rename will take place once an outcome has been established. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:37, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

== Cause you getting on AIM would be pointless... ==

If we tie again, does this mean I can revert you? Or can't I since you're basically above me in the power rank? Oh, and I need to ask you something as well. Can you roundy-ify the CharacterInfoBox stuff please? There's a lot to it and you're the only one who I'd ask to do it because I like making you work and I can't really touch the stuff, and cause I don't know how to round-ify stuff...--[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 01:32, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
:You're right, it would be. You can revert if you want to. I thought about it, but didn't want to fill up the newbie's inbox. What kind of color scheme you looking at? —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:38, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
::Well, I was actually kinda particular for a categorization thing going. Like 4 colors, one for each generation, which also categorizes them by the color into generation, ie Mr. Stone having a red color and having all red color ones categorized into Gen 3 characters. However, if it isn't possible to do that, just make them all how they were and just roundy-ify them, please. :D. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 01:43, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
:::We can do that! Just name the color schemes. The only problem atm is that anime and manga use the same template. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:45, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Hm...Well, that might be a problem...Uh...if anything I'd like them of course to be "color name" color light, but I'd go with yellow, crystal, emerald and platinum perhaps for respective generational debut...If not, tell me which ones would be a problem...--[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 01:56, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

== Pokemon Diamond ==

What!? You didnt complete the national dex in diamond!? I have pearl,diamond,and platinum and i completed the pokedex without transfering! I am a 10 year old boy and ur 18!-Arceus99
:Anyone else like to point out that I'm a failure in life, or are we done here? —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:14, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

== Apricorn Shaker ==

Could you delete it from [[List of key items in Generation IV]]? It's confirmed that it is NOT an item, but rather an overworld tool like Berry Blender or Poffin Mixer. Having it listed as item is completely irrelevant. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 19:35, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
:Cheers, Maxim. If it hasn't been taken off already I'll get it now. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:14, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

sorry

== Apricorn Table ==

Hello Trom. I fixed the table as you asked, fixed the border, labeled the table like the old one, and added the Japanese Apricorn names. The only thing I did not do was redo the image labels as TTE said,"Remove the image links and die...". So if you want them changed as someone else did to the other table (I do not know if it was authorized) so I just left them. If you need anything else done to it just ask. ([[Talk:Apricorn|Table still on talk page]]) also I will not replace the table until you tell me to, or you can just do it. –[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 19:46, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
:Thanks for your effort, Master K. I see someone did have a deathwish, so I've put it on the page. Again, thanks. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:14, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
::No problem at all. Thanks for the suggestions. –[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 23:12, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

== Something I want you to check out... ==

Yo Tromski, I know you got about a gazillion stuff to do already (including the {{{nick}}} parameter to our lovely template), but I need you to take a look at [[User:ElectAbuzzzz/Sandbox|this]]. I did my best so far but I'll need help with the moves tables. If you can, go on AIM. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 22:42, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

==Proposition==
What do you think about deleting the users who haven't made any contributions? Would that make a difference of the size of Bulbapedia? At least we can warn them to contribute or be blocked. I took a look at the new users since 2006 and saw that most didn't make contributions... then I saw BULBABOT's contributions and stopped soon after it. Would this make any difference whatsoever? Or should we keep them all to show how many users we have? Just a thought, but think about it. [[User:Pyles|Pyles]] 23:27, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
:Accounts can't be deleted. End of story. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:28, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
::Really? no acceptions? seems kind of a waste of space. [[User:Pyles|Pyles]] 23:31, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
:::People create accounts for various reasons. Some people register to secure their wellknown username from other sites to prevent people impersonating them. Some people register to avoid seeing the ads while they browse. Some people register to create fake pages and disrupt the creation of the encyclopedia. Everyone has different intentions for signing up, and with the exception of <s>dickheads</s> vandals, we shouldn't penalize anyone. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:35, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Thanks for clearing up my ignorance of other stuff on Bulbapedia. I didn't even think of some of those things. [[User:Pyles|Pyles]] 23:37, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

==Thanks==
I am AuraGaurdian. Thanks for your advice, Trom. I'll remember to leave a timestamp from now on.--[[User:AuraGaurdian|AuraGaurdian]] 23:54, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

==AIM==
I'm on, now--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 09:27, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
:-- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 01:22, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

==Friend Code==

Hey darklord do u have wifi on diamond i thought we could do a wifi battle using my platinum and ur diamond-Arceus99★☆★♪
:Nope. I don't. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:01, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Oh its ok!-Arceus99

== Thanks for the "In other languages" part ==

I forgot to add the lines so thanks.--[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight Blue]] 03:52, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

==Solidad==
hey man just wondering why you deleted my page on solidad's slowbro everything on there was true slowbro appeared in more than 1 episode it was in three i would say slowbro and evan lapras could be said to be solidads signiture pokemon so i dont see why her pokemon can't have a page
[[User:solidadrox|'''solidadrox''']][[User talk:solidadrox|'''''']][[Special:Contributions/solidadrox|'''''']]
:This has been explained on your talk page, but I'll put it here anyway. Bulbapedia has devloped a notability policy to discourage short low-quality articles. You probably posted here before you saw what Kenji-girl wrote on your talk page, but if you follow the link she provided you'll see the table listing for [[Drew]]'s Pokémon that haven't done enough. See, it doesn't come down to the number of appearances, or the number of battles they won. Plot and character devlopment are very important here. I hope I've made this clear. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:01, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

== I'm Sorry! ==

I should've known. Next time I will make sure to not use names like "you". That means I'll use "the player" then.
--[[User:Naoy5|Naoy5]] 17:48, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
:Nothing to be sorry about. It's just a learning curve. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:56, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

== What are we to make of these? ==

{{ms|351S}}{{ms|351R}}{{ms|351H}} Although rather well made, they're certainly unofficial. They would go well in certain tables though.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 09:09, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
:If you haven't done so already, ask the Echidna. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 19:48, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
::His page is protected. That's why I came here.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 20:59, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

Thanks for fixing up my mistakes! The TRsRockin page is still a work-in progress. I posted what i had because i had to get off the computer, and it was MOSTLY done. Lol. I'll be adding to it sometime tomorrow. :3 Thanks for fixing it up for me. [[User:CherryParanoia|CherryParanoia]] 18:06, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

== New user archiving already... ==

Hey Trom I was floating around and found that a new user, [[User:Thatguywiththecodes|Thatguywiththecodes]], already archived there talk page: [[User_talk:Thatguywiththecodes/Archive_1|Archived stuff]]. Additionally they removed the welcome message when they have already been told to leave it... If you need any assistance just let me know. ;) -[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 01:58, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
:i have "taken care" of this issue. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 02:09, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
::Thanks Magnedeth. –[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 02:54, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
:::I threw away my welcome as soon as I could. Although, that was back when it was a wall of text. And a small wall of that. I like what you did there, Mister Deth :D —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 05:04, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

== Hi, about talk page archiving. ==

When do I know when it is time to archive my page? Oh do you know how to make one of those HP bars for a talk page? I'm trying to figure it out but had no luck.--[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight Blue]] 02:16, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
:Ask TTE or someone. As for Archiving, it is the user choice to Archive his/her talkpage.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 02:59, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
::Some users archive when they've received enough hate mail to feel uncomfortable when they look at it. Some users archive at a particular size. I archive every three months. I don't care how big it gets, that's when it happens. It really is up to you. To make a talk page bar, go to someone else's page, steal their code, work out what it does (in SHOW PREVIEW mode so we don't see you screwing around and think you're a genius on the first save), and edit to suit your own style. That's the best way to figure out how some of the complicated wikimarkup works. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 05:04, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

== Talk page ==

Hello Trom, do you mind if I use a similar table to your for my talk page. I will give you credit, and it will be quite a bit different. –[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 21:09, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
:Go for your life. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:11, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
::Thanks. That kinda sounds bad though :O –[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 21:18, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
:::Done with it if you want to take a look at my talkpage. Thanks again Trom! –[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 22:05, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

==Space reserved for WeedleMaster==
Thanks!

I haven't been here long so I will try to work on my spelling.

[[User: WeedleMaster]]
:You can sign properly, too, by typing <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> at the end of each comment. This automatically puts your name and a timestamp at the end of the comment, and is the correct way to sign on any wiki. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:13, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Sweet!

[[User:WeedleMaster|WeedleMaster]] 21:51, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

== Dude you got issues. ==

I can reply to a message that are nearly 1 year old if i want to.So why go out of your way to tell me otherwise.Im still having trouble with viewing the photo's on the indigo league episode page.So i reported to the talk page to inform others that i too have had problems with viewing photos on that page.--[[User:Solidstate|Solid!]] 10:46, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
:Damn straight I have issues. I'm just telling you that the discussions there are quite often out of date. If you're having issues too you could either wait three years so I can finish my Psychology degree, or start a new section at the bottom of the page where you're more likely to get a relevant reply. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:48, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
::Beside, it's kinda stupid to reply to an out of date conversation when the problem has either been resolved or forgotten.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 10:51, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
Appolgy acepted Trom.--[[User:Solidstate|Solid!]] 12:56, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
:It isn't an apology if you edit my comment to put it in. The edit history tells all, Solid. Let that be a lesson to you. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:49, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

== Thanks for telling me how to sign! ==

lol, I'm not sure if this is the right page for messages or whatever...

Sorry if my use of phrases like, "Wtf" are against the rules. I just couldn't stand anymore seeing misleading information on this site. [[User:Chaos Rush|Chaos Rush]] 19:52, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
:Yep, messages go here. A lot of people here actually reply on their own talk pages when people leave them messages (this helps keep the conversation together), but it's up to you. There isn't anything wrong with saying "wtf". If you haven't read our {{bp|code of conduct}}, it pretty much describes how you ought to interact with other editors. You're doing a great job so far. Keep it up! —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:54, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Hey, I'd like to ask another question: I tried uploading the correct Platinum Mareep sprite (179.png), however on Mareep's page, the D/P sprite is still displayed under "Platinum Sprites". So then I uploaded a Spr_4p_179.png, but the sprite still displayed is the D/P sprite under "Platinum Sprites". Do you know how to fix that? (Oh, and about that blanked page, that was an accident, sorry, I was trying to fix the sprite)[[User:Chaos Rush|Chaos Rush]] 22:14, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
:It isn't automatic. The data has to be transferred from one server to another. Just give it a bit of time. And, yes, the upload did work the first time. Sometimes the old data is 'cached' and the new image doesn't display. About blanking the page... well, that was bad no matter what you were trying to do. At least replacing it with a description of what the image was would have sufficed. Now that you have your Archives Welcome things should hopefully be easier for you. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:17, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

== Team Rocket Sprite ==
I just wanted to leave a message thanking you for replacing the sprite on my Usertag. No matter how hard I looked around Bulbapedia I just couldn't find that Team Rocket sprite, so thanks! [[User:ASecondOpinion1501|ASecondOpinion1501]] 23:52, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
:No problem. If you ever are looking for Trainer Class sprites, we have an article on every [[:Category:Trainer classes|Trainer Class]]. As far as I'm aware, all our sprites are complete there. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:54, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
:: Well, I feel pretty stupid now. I looked down that list and managed to completely skip the Team Rocket Grunt link. Oh well, I suppose I'll just have to look more carefully next time ;) Thanks again! [[User:ASecondOpinion1501|ASecondOpinion1501]] 00:00, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

== Eevee Pokédex ==

Trom, just to let you know all of the Eevee Pokédex URL are outdated (on the collapsible menu under external links on the Pokémon info box). It looks like all the URL just got changed from the National Dex number to the Pokémons name. (ie. from pokemon/001 to pokemon/bulbasaur)

Is there someway we can fix this? –'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 21:41, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
:While there was nothing wrong with the redirects from ndex to the name (apart from some potential server stress at Veekun's end) I've updated the link generating process. It should be fine now. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:35, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
::Thanks for doing that Trom. –'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 23:59, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

== *shoots Trom* ==

On TCG Trivia, there isn't a whatchcallit (*) if there's just one piece of it. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 03:08, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

== HELP ==

I created a Frontier parser, but I need to add that to the re1, se1, and e1 parser, similar to what was done with the Lati@s parser. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 15:03, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
:OK, ht kinda freaked out on everyone here but you and I seem to have fixed it. What I need to know is if you think you can add a series of multi-form subtemplates I made a while ago to {{Template|Side game}}. They're all posted on the talk page (though I may have missed something) also, be warned, they may not work 100% because I was pretty inexperienced when I made them.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 01:57, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
::Verify that they work then make me a sandbox to copy. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:12, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
:::It's in my sandbox. Some minor alignment issues seem to have popped up but I was never very good with that (and it could just be my IE).--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 22:33, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
::::Done. Don't forget our nonverbal unwritten contract. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:19, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

== Kiaora ==

Hi, i was wondering if you could help with updating the party template on my user page, I tried after the home page told me to but I couldn't figure it out. Any help would be appreciated.''[[User:Sui|'''Sui''']][[User talk:Sui|'''Topaz''']]'' 22:30, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
:Here's the deal. You've been editing your userspace an awful lot in the short time you've been here. How about editing ten different articles before I update your template. Bulbapedia isn't a social site - it's an encyclopedia, and we need your help to complete it. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:21, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
::Deal''[[User:Sui|'''Sui''']][[User talk:Sui|'''Topaz''']]'' 04:53, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

== Routes 48, 49 ==

Sorry, I haven't seen a source dictating these as their names. Can you supply this? It may turn out that they have descriptive names like the Sevii Islands routes. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:11, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

: Here are two pictures I just took. [commented out coz they're huge :D]

[[User:MARXOR|MARXOR]] 01:40, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

:Cheers. About five minutes after I asked you, it was mentioned on some of the news sites that are going hardcore over this. We'll get articles written up in time, most likely after we get any decent kind of substantial information. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 05:44, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

==Thanks==
Thanks for handling the last part of the new Johto Dex numbers for me and I added that trivia piece liked you asked but only on the Legendary Beasts page which is best suited for it. But I tell you it while it was a long and tiring process I made sure not to make any mistakes so there is no need for further edits on those pages. But anyway check out the new trivia piece and make your own changes if you need to. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 19:44, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
:Thanks again for doing that for us. I'd agree that the Legendary Beasts article is the best. Having triplicate trivia is kind of boring, and it relates to all three of them. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 19:47, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

== Sprite deleting ==

I'm sorry to bother you, but could you delete [a really sucky jpg (comment edited by trom coz he deleted the sucky jpg)]? I updated his page's sprite for a png. -- [[User:RikkiKitsune|R<s>ikki</s>]][[User talk:RikkiKitsune|Kitsune]] 21:57, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
:Yahuh. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:00, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

== A Couple of things... ==

Hi Trom! I fixed the Giovanni template to have the same colours as the Team Rocket template, you can [[User:MasterKenobi/Gym_Leaders#Pok.C3.A9mon_HeartGold_and_SoulSilver_18|find the Giovanni template here]]. Is that colour scheme look all right? If not, what colours should we use? If so, we can go ahead and use it for the admins too.

Also, I have been working on the abilities of the Gym Leaders Pokémon and a couple of other trainers. I know how to find a couple such as Falkner's Pidgey, I will use smokescreen and if it lowers the accuracy, the ability is Keen Eye if not, it is Tangled Feet. Where I become stuck is at Pokémon such as Bugsy's Scyther where the abilities are Swarm or Technician, and I do not know how to determine the ability. I may need help with a few others too. Thanks ;) –'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 17:33, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
:Colors are fine. A darker grey might be preferable, but I'm not that fussed. Finalizing moves and abilities can be done using an Action Replay. Catch the Gym Leader's Pokémon and look in the status screen. That's how we found out Cynthia's Pokémon have perfect IVs. Dirty little.... —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:20, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
::We will keep those colours then until we decide we dislike them then. Darker grey was what I was thinking too. I will work on the gym leaders Pokémon then, that is an easier method. Wow, Perfect IV's!
::[[image:BrockHGSS.gif]][[File:BrockHGSS.png]]

::Also, I wanted to ask you about the gym leader sprites. Do we want to use the moving one (gif) or non-moving one (png). I have been alternating between both by having the non-moving ones for the gym leader gym battle template and the moving one for the rematch. An example of this is on the [[User:MasterKenobi/Gym_Leaders|Gym leader template page]]. In my personal opinion some of the moving sprites move too fast such as the Brock one. Also, as a side note some of the moving ones make the party template size different. So which way should it be done? Thanks Trom. –'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 20:37, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
:::I'm not a fan of the moving sprites. They slow down my browser. Although we've used animated sprites for Pt, that Brock one is of rather poor quality. It's up to you I guess. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:44, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
::::I will just stick with the one moving, one non-moving then. –'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 21:08, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

== Can you do someting for me? ==

Could it be possible that you can protect Leaf for a while until we get things settled?--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 21:18, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
:It's fine commented out. As far as I know, no one's actually played through with Kotone so we have no confirmation of a gender inverse. It's more than likely that it's still Red, what with all the references, but just leave it hidden, ok? —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:25, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
:Alright, thanks.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 21:26, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

==Need you to do a small fix==
Thank you for merging the Battle Frontier content, however the region stuff for Sinnoh and Johto is messed up and I tried a previewed link correction but it isn't going to work so if you can could you take a crack at it. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]]
:Fixed. {{u|Sol}} did it. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:29, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
::Glad someone got to it so the only thing left is updating the Pokémon League template with the new stuff, but anyway that is all I have to say for now. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 21:33, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
:::One more issue. The caption is incorrect (either 2 images or one with the correct one). [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 21:34, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
::::Once we get a Johto map I'll see if I can set it up to alternate between them. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:36, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

== Wikipedia ==

Wied you delete wikipedia? Why does it break your haerT? Sorry I'm asking these questions, but i just made the page. (I'm friendly with this, don't worry i'm not threatening you in any way). * --[[User:Tommy-SAN|'''T☆MMY''']][[User talk:Tommy-SAN|'''SAN!''']][[Special:Contributions/Tommy-SAN|'''♂''']]
:I'm a Wikipedian at heart, but there's no room for this article on Bulbapedia. Wikipedia as a whole has nothing to do with Pokémon. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:46, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

** Okay, i understand! Sorry, I don't wanna spam your talk page. * --[[User:Tommy-SAN|'''T☆MMY''']][[User talk:Tommy-SAN|'''SAN!''']][[Special:Contributions/Tommy-SAN|'''♂''']] 3:07 PM September 14, 2009 (UTC)

==Response to userspace policy==
i did read it, and i understand. but it seems like even just sharing in game data in my userspace gets the admins telling me to stop. im not using it like a twitter or a facebook. and i would like to help contribute to the mainspace, but i simply dont know enough about pokemon to edit with confidence. to me it doesnt seem fair that i cant show people my pokemon simply because im not a pokemon guru. it seems like almost everything is covered here :/ please dont take this the wrong way, ill gladly stop editing if it will hurt me and other people. [[User:Volsak|Volsak]] 22:08, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
:There is a lot that can be done on Bulbapedia. Believe it or not, we are far from complete! There are a lot of {{cat|stubs}} here—short articles that need expanding. Have a look through the list and see if there are any articles from the games you've played. I'm sure you'll find something to do. A more general to-do list can be found on the main page. I like your userpage, by the way :D —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:12, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

== TY ==

Thanks for cleaning my edit. It was quite embarrassing to read what I actually wrote... [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 11:09, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
:Any time. It wasn't that bad, really. I've seen a lot worse. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 11:11, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

== Still online? ==

If you are, log on for a sec, I need to ask you something. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 11:23, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

== Items ==

Hello Trom. I was wondering how we wanted to have the items. Do we want them just plainly listed like on the [[Route_32#Pok.C3.A9mon_HeartGold_and_SoulSilver_2|Route 32 page]] or do we want them listed and have a description like on the [[New_Bark_Town#Items|New Bark Town page]]. So far I have been making the item list similar to the New Bark Town page, so that would be fine if we stayed like that, and on top of that it adds detail... –'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 23:37, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

== help? ==

I would like to start a article of a tv channel for Project TV and would like to start.Where would i be able to start it without actually having it online and viewable by everyone until its ready to be realeased.Thanks --[[User:Solidstate|Solid!]] 08:20, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
:Impossible. Sorry. You can do it offline in Windows Notepad or a similar program, or make it in a user subpage. To make a user subpage write ''User:Solidstate/[subpage name]'' in the searchbar, and then click "create article". I would prefer it to happen that way, but whichever method you choose is up to you. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:27, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks-Ive started a page on channels that have showed Pokemon episodes [[tv2]] and i thought since you were from New zealand also (ithink) you might be able to add to it if not it's okay.Thanks --[[User:Solidstate|Solid!]] 10:34, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
:Yeah, this is getting a big cleanup. It's eventually going to get merged into ''Pokémon in New Zealand'', but we'll keep it up for now. Thanks for starting it off. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:37, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

== Wikia ==

What's your username on Wikia? What wikis are you on, we may have the same interests (We seem to already have an interest in Pokémon)! I'm an administrator on most wikias I'm on. (DON'T THINK THIS IS SPAM) * --[[User:Tommy-SAN|'''T☆MMY''']][[User talk:Tommy-SAN|'''SAN!''']][[Special:Contributions/Tommy-SAN|'''♂''']]
:I'm "The dark lord trombonator" and I'm barely active there. I pop up now and again on pokemon.wikia to make sure that no one's stealing our content... again... —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 05:30, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

==An error to bring up==
Nice work on updating HeartGold and SoulSilver and creating a Pokémon section for that page, but I noticed of a typing error on the parenthesis for the first paragraph regarding FireRed and LeafGreen. THere are 3 present when there should be 2 or 4. Thought you should know. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 04:57, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
:Dammit... I thought I was doing good. I'll get onto that... —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 04:59, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
::Thanks, and on another quick topic I removed unconfirmed details from Metapods' page about game location. Since even on Serebii.net it is acknowledged as being unconfirmed of it not being in SoulSilver, I going to help monitor that all unconfirmed details stay off this site until they are properly verified. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 05:06, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

== Sandbox ==

How come I'm not allowed to have a sandbox? [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 07:16, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
:It's not that you aren't allowed to have a sandbox. We encourage the use of sandboxes. However, don't edit in your userspace too much because it can stress the server. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:17, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
::Well, okay, no problem there. It's just, I've barely had it a couple hours and I'm getting policy warnings or whatever. If it's a problem don't worry then, delete it and I'll find something else to do. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 07:22, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
::Not a problem. I didn't mean it as a warning, just a reminder. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:24, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

== Hey trom ==

Hey Trom, need a gallade, or a darkrai, '''don't touch my darkrai''', but still , I'm in NZ and have quite a few pokemon that you might not have. So if you need my friend code for some trading, check out my talk page!P.S: I'm not a hacker, I hate hackers, got my darkrai legit, Aug 3-Sep 13, members card: 27 dusk balls and 5 ultra balls down the drain. But it was all worth it.--[[User:Minimag|Minimag]] 06:05, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

User talk:The dark lord trombonator/Archive4

2009-09-21T06:04:17Z

Minimag:

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My replies will go here, so make sure to be watching this page. If you're a first-time poster here, I'll leave a note on your talk page too. Next archive planned for October 1.... —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 12:11, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
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== See this ==

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| style="background: #e6e6ff; border-radius-topright: 10px; -moz-border-radius-topright: 10px; padding: 2px 10px;" | {{TP|Brock|Onix|Steelix}} ([[Brock]]) • {{TP|Misty|Starmie}} ([[Misty]]) • {{TP|Lt. Surge|Raichu}} ([[Lt. Surge]]) • {{TP|Erika|Gloom}} ([[Erika]]) • {{TP|Koga|Venomoth}} ([[Koga]])/Crobat ([[Janine]]) 
{{TP|Sabrina|Kadabra}}/Alakazam ([[Sabrina]]) • {{TP|Blaine|Magmar}} ([[Blaine]]) • {{TP|Giovanni|Persian}}/Nidoking? ([[Giovanni]])/<?> ({{ga|Blue}}) 
{{TP|Lorelei|Cloyster}} ([[Lorelei]]) • {{TP|Bruno|Onix}}/Machamp ([[Bruno]]) • Gengar ([[Agatha]]) • {{TP|Lance|Dragonite}} ([[Lance]])
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Poliwrath/{{TP|Chuck|Machoke}} ([[Chuck]]) • Steelix ([[Jasmine]]) • {{TP|Pryce|Piloswine}} ([[Pryce]]) • {{TP|Clair|Dragonair}}/Kingdra ([[Clair]]) 
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This is only the first two regions...working on it...how is it? [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 14:29, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
:Is it really necessary? —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:52, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
::Ehh...debatable for now... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 01:31, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

== Whoops ==

[[User:MisterE13/Sandbox|Here]], I figured out a little something that will work a little better. Sorry about that and thaks for everuthing.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 18:48, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
:Done. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:52, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
::Some new stuff on there now, got rid of some redirects and added Rotom and Castform clauses. BTW, yes I had made one final mistake on the Infobox which is now fixed in my Sandbox I'm 100% sure it will work now though (and Shaymin's page will be perfect{{tt|.|Muhahaha}})--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 01:01, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Which new stuff am I supposed to install? —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:13, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
::::Everything, its kind-of scattered in the first two so I suppose you could copy/paste. If that's no good, most of it was just redirect-avoiding (which I do believe is good). Other than that, it was just Rotom, Castform (and a slight Burmy) clauses.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 03:17, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::Query: What do the "improvements" actually do? Just sprite altering? —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:25, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::A lot of redirects to [[Forme differences]] are avoided (don't know if that's as important as I think it is), putting in 412 automatically inserts a little "Plant Cloak" (for Burmy), the TM one now allows for Rotom (complete with sprites and "Forme differences" links) and they both allow for Castform (links only, obviously). That's pretty much it I think.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 03:41, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::There are yet more last minute modifications in there now. Thanks for the trouble.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 07:20, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
As it turns out, I had made a small placement error. All better now :D.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 15:27, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
:There's something new in there now (no moveentries this time, I promise)--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 14:42, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

== Books ==

Hey Trom, should we start making articles about the Pokémon books? A couple I can name of the top of my head are: Pokémon pop quiz by Carli Entin, and Attack of the prehistoric Pokémon by Tracey West. Actually, could we just make it a project? I could put together a list before you decided if you want. Thanks Trom! -[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 03:43, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:Yeah, definitely go ahead with that. I wouldn't suggest a full-flown project just yet, but maybe we can organise something more formal once some work has actually been done. Tracey West doesn't even have an article yet, so that may be a good place to start. I've read a few of her novelizations (but don't own any), and recall a bibliography on the back. And of course, the internet may be a good resource as well. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:36, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
::[http://www.traceywest.com/biography.html This] and [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=safari&rls=en-us&q=tracey+west+biography&revid=1279369419&ei=_mZMSvfoCYbyMcvY1PYD&sa=X&oi=revisions_inline&resnum=0&ct=broad-revision&cd=4 this] look like a good place to start. I will help with the project if it's created. *wishing I still had all of the books I had by her* --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 07:54, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Wow, that first site looks great! I suppose I'll get started on that article, then. Unless you have already. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:59, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
::::I haven't. And of course that first site looks great. It's her official sight. (lol) --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 08:00, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::Hm. I should get some more sleep. I thought I was talking to the same person then.... D: —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:16, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::lol What's this "sleep" of which you speak? It's 2:20 am here and I'm not tired at all. And it has nothing to do with the Pepsi I'm drinking. *should probably shut up now**goes to edit my userpage a ton (but only one recorded edit, no worries) and possibly create a couple book pages* Should we do pages for [http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Pokemon-Pop-Quiz/Carli-Entin/e/9780439154062 the pop quiz book mentioned above], [http://www.paperbackswap.com/book/details/9780816765270-Pokemon+Activity+Book the activity book], [http://www.amazon.com/How-Draw-Pokemon-Tracey-West/dp/0439434408 the how to draw Pokémon book (by Tracey West)], and/or [http://www.amazon.com/Pokemon-Official-Collectors-Sticker-Book/dp/0439106591 the sticker book]? --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 08:29, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::How about you try and do the lot? Keep up the quality, though. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:44, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Okay. They might not be very good, as there isn't much important stuff to write about (I believe). --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 08:48, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

OK, thanks Trom. I can probably get my hands on a couple of the books but will start out with just a list of to-do stuff. Thanks again, and get yourself some sleep! –[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 16:36, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:Trom, I made a [[User:MasterKenobi/Project Books/To-do list| To-do list]] and have quite a bit more to add. I think, that I could probably make a project out of this if I get an OK. Here is the first book article, [[Island of the Giant Pokémon (book)]] but, I think to make it look a bit better we could use a template that includes the title, book cover image, pages, publication date, ISBN # (This one I think isn't really needed), and publisher. For the series books though we could make it like the anime or the manga where it links to the book before it and after it. -[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 19:22, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

== Quick question ==

Do you know how to link directly to a category on a userpage without it getting included and making it appear? I'm trying to extend list of (non talk) pages I've created on my userpage, but it won't show the category pages. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 08:37, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:{{template|cat}}. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:44, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
::Thanks! --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 08:51, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

== A Question ==

Three things (not all questions). First, how do you use special characters in the search boxes? Second, one of the pictures on your userpage doesn't display. Third, if there is supposed to be a Haunter pic on this page its not working and just says purplehaunter.png or something like that.--[[User:Swampert rox|Swampert rox]] 16:39, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
:The images are your problem, not mine. They all display for me. Try clearing your browser cache (Ctrl+F5). If, by special characters you mean the e-acute (é) you can either copy-paste from somewhere else, or you can type Alt+130. These can all be found in the character map for Windows. If you're on a Mac, I can't help you with that. There's probably a list on the internet of every special character ever created and the accompanying codes. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:49, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
::For Mac: The é is option-e-e. I use it all the time. Other symbols can be gotten by other option- combinations. All the letter keys plus have special chars. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 03:03, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
:::If you mean Alt + 1 + 3 + 0, it doesn't work. If that's not what you meant, what do I type?--[[User:Swampert rox|Swampert rox]] 21:19, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
::::I think he means to hold the Alt key and type 130 in that order, not all at once. I've never tried that method, though. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 21:22, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::Doesn't work (or do anything whatsoever).--[[User:Swampert rox|Swampert rox]] 14:58, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::Then something's up with your computer. I'd love to fix it, but... um.... yeah..... —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 05:18, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Alt+0233 can be used as an alternative for the e-acute. '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 05:20, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::::You have to use the numberpad to type the numbers, not the row at the top of the keyboard. If you are using a laptop which doesn't have a numberpad then you can buy a usb one quite cheaply, or just cope with the redirects that should have been created. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] 05:37, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::Most laptops have an Fn key anyway, which activates keys differently. It's what I use: I gotta hold Fn and Alt and hit jlm. é. Happy daaaaay! '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:08, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::That doesn't work for me either. Is there any alternative way for a laptop?--[[User:Swampert rox|Swampert rox]] 11:49, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

== Sorry again ==

Did I apologize for my behavior. I had not realized that I could not make other changes. I do not speak English well and I find it difficult to understand at times. Sorry again for my ignorance. --[[User:Brendon|Brendon]] 8.35, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

== yukushi wisdom ==
Thanks for your help. Actually, since I don't edit much in Bulbapedia, I was considering canceling my account. That's why I was editing. I didn't realise that I was doing it in my fake name lol but anyways thaks for everything. {{SUBST:User:Uxie wisdom/sig}} 23:57, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
:Accounts can't be canceled, unfortunately. Just go away and never come back :P If you want those subpages you blanked deleted, I can handle that for you. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:07, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

== Slight problem ==

Well, it's not really a problem but, Trombony, I might need an option of no image (in which cse we might wanna colspan it). See [[Cissy]] to get what I mean. Many thanks. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 00:23, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
:It shouldn't be too hard to get an image. I'll dig around, watch the episode and get good screenshots. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:58, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
::Yes, of course we can get the image. But the template is gonna be in a much wider use, and we're gonna have a lot of similar cases... But yeah, it's not too bad, just leaves some whitespace. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 10:21, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
::Well I see that that's already fixed, but a few other things (sorry I'm being difficult, but I demand perfection :)), when you get the time: first, there's the subject of nicknamed Pokémon, like [[Ritchie]]'s. I don't want the image caption to read "Ritchie's Sparky", I want it to read "Sparky", and the same for the main article link.
::Second: Apparently I need the number of "="s on the section headers to be changeable. In most articles it should be the way you did it, but in some I need it to be one level lower.
::Last but not least - check what happens if someone clicks the "edit" link in one of the sections... Is that supposed to be like that? --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 11:25, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
::: *clicks edit* woah! Yeah, not good. We can fix that with a NOEDITSECTION magicword. We can set the image to default as noimage; although imageneeded may be better than a white gap. I'll add an optional parameter such as {{{nick}}}, which should hopefully override the current hovercaption formatting. There can also be optional parameters for lower headings. Can you show me an example of where that would be in place? It won't help the construction of the template; I'm just curious. :P
:::You probably didn't understand a word of that. Probably because I made up most of the terminology. Lol. I doubt I'll catch you on AIM this weekend so I'll either work through it when I have time, or catch up with you later. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:29, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
::::Yeah, the reason I'm writing to you here is because we keep missing each other on AIM lately, and I figured it's best to let you know... So, here we go:
::::# The way you just canceled the section headers is no good. The reason I wanted section headers is because [[Casey's Elekid]], [[Drew's Absol]], etc, redirect to that specific Pokémon in the template. Get it? So put back the sectionheaders with that nice magicword of yours, please.
::::# Seems like {{u|Sol}} took care of the image thing for now.
::::# The {{{nick}}} parameter sounds great. Do it.
::::# Lower heading would come in case that the character exists in more than one media, AND has Pokémon not on hand. Why? Because then the headings go: <nowiki>==In the anime==, ===Pokémon===, ====On hand====,</nowiki> and just THEN the Pokémon should be. {{Gary}} is the best example I can think of right now.
::::So you see Trombodude, you're underestimating my comprehension skills. I understand you kiwi wiki terminology just fine. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 12:27, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::The problem with the magicword, I later realised, is that it will cancel all section headers for the entire page. I think I may have an idea for the headings, too. I'll experiment, and get back to you later in the week. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:23, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::Believe it or not Tromizard, but I actually managed to code everything myself ^^; so, no worries. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 21:58, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

== HGSS ==

* Can you add something to the [[Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver|HGSS]] page saying something about the game containing both leafy trees and autumn trees? --[[User:swampert_rox|Swampert]] [[Swampert (Pokémon)|=]] [[User talk:Swampert_rox|awesome]] ([[User:PhoenixGraphix#{{ucfirst:Daily (bleh)}}|bl]][[Special:Random|eh]]) 19:28, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

== Redirects ==

Please be a bit more careful when trying to turn articles into redirects. I had to restore the article on [[Camerupt Point]] you had changed into a redirect because you made it redirect to Camerupt Point, hence causing an infinite redirect loop. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 23:12, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
:Whoops; it was meant to go to [[Camerupt Mountain]]. Confuzzling :( —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:14, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

== Pokémon Black Market ==

If the article was full of speculation and all that, then slap a cleanup tag on it instead of deleting it! The Pokémon Black Market is a factual part of the Pokémon universe and thus is worthy of its own article. Could you restore it, please? [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 23:28, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
:They'd be nothing left if all the speculation was removed. All you'd have left to say would be "The Pokémon black market is a black market for Pokémon which was talked about in DPxyz." I don't consider that to be article-worthy. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:29, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
::There's also the fact about Snorunt being worth top dollar on it. Besides, it's not like the speculation in question was baseless. If Glalie was worth as much as or more than Snorunt on the market, the hunter would've just sold his own Glalie, rather than going to the trouble of snatching Snorunt. If Carnivine, Yanmega, Pikachu, Chimchar, or Buneary were worth as much as or more than Snorunt, then the hunter would've tried to take them as well. If anything, that could be confined to a trivia section. Plus, there's [[Dustox Flower Field|much worse]] in the way of stubs. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 23:36, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
:::I didn't say it wasn't baseless; in fact I think they are perfectly reasonable assumptions. However, they remain just that. Perhaps the hunter hadn't realised that he could have sold Glalie, or perhaps he was sentimentally attached to it, or perhaps he just got a thrill from stealing Pokémon. These things are as unknown as the conclusions you have jumped to. If the information about Snorunt isn't mentioned on {{p|Snorunt|this page}} I'd suggest putting them there.
:::And yes, there are millions of stubs out there, and we are doing our best to clean them up (hence "featured stub" on the main page). It'd be great if you could give us a hand. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:40, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
::::It's not that I wouldn't love to, it's half the time I find a stub, I usually don't know too much information what that can be added to it. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 23:49, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
== Talk archive image ==
See what's in <nowiki></nowiki>'s. Just thought it might be easier for ya.--'''[[User:Immewnity|''Mew'']] [[User talk:Immewnity|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|Immewnity]]''' was here at 01:34, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
:Amazing. No more pretend transparent! Cheers. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:03, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

== Edit again ==

Sorry, but I missed something with that change in {{template|bulbanews}}. See [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Bulbanews&curid=78999&diff=815279&oldid=815276 this]. Thanks. [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 02:16, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
:Done. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:41, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

== Thank you ==

Thanks for blocking I am Missingno. I annoys me so much when people mess up pages, especially an entire page. Anyway, thanks for putting a stop to the vandalism. --[[User:RiverAura|*River*]] [[User_Talk:RiverAura|*Aura*]] 20:52, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
:That's ok. I hadn't planned to pop in today, but I'm glad I did. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:53, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
::I would also like to extend my gratitude for quick action. He also touched both of our userpages. If you want, you can clear my history of the vandalism. Thanks again. By the way, the line I put for "Get off this wiki!" is a pun of Steve Wilkos telling bad guests "Get off my stage!" Just a thought. --[[User:Rockersk08|rock]][[User talk:Rockersk08|ersk]][[Special:Contributions/Rockersk08|08]] 20:56, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Both done. Thanks to all involved. Now, move along, folks. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:02, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
:::: I forgot to mention {{p|Pikachu}} Sorry about that. --[[User:Rockersk08|rock]][[User talk:Rockersk08|ersk]][[Special:Contributions/Rockersk08|08]] 21:04, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

== Trom old boy, ==

How do you set the size of the table of contents? Places like {{m|Double-Edge}} are getting a bit out of hand.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 03:01, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
:I don't know if it's possible to do that. You can set your preferences up, however, to autohide all TOCs. It's under Misc. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:05, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
::Oh, yours seemed squished (maybe its just your big purple box). Should I just not write "Gale of Darkness" then?--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 03:07, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Oh, yeah, it's just been squished. I guess you could put it into an invisible table and set the width there... but that'll just make extend downwards further, which would be worse, IMO. Don't abbreviate the game name too far. Aside from the fact that it takes up my whole screen, there's no huge problem. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:10, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
::::PK, just realized I can take out "Pokémon" #2 :D.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 03:11, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

== Chuck Norris ==

Username similar, just swapped the first few letters...how about it? Remove or keep? [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 03:20, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
:Give him a chance, probably just a coinicidence; who wouldn't want to be named after the world's greatest human being?--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 03:22, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
::I heard MediaWiki blocking powers don't work on Chuck Norris. IDK about his fanboys, so let's leave him for now. Don't want to break the server or anything. Chances are he won't do anything. If he does, we can jump him then. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:23, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
::: You guys wouldn't be talking about me, would you? Considering that ht14 posted about 12 minutes after I joined, I would say that's likely. Well, if you are talking about me, don't worry, I'm not a n00b, all I want to do is give back to the website which has helped me so much when playing through the Pokémon games. I'm not new to Wikis either; I'm a member on Wikipedia, and I've even almost entirely rewritten an article there ({{wp|Whirled}}), and edited a few others. [[User:Nuck Chorris|Nuck Chorris]] 04:27, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

::::I don't see a problem. Use your own judgement on this one, trom, since it's on your TP, but it's clearly not an ''impersonation''. --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 04:30, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::Impersonating {{u|Chuck Norris}}? Or {{wp|Chuck Norris}} himself? Is {{u|Chuck Norris}} a high-standing member? If so, I apologize for any apparent impersonation, all I did was I checked to see if I'd already registered here by looking for usernames beginning with "Nuck". Also, Trom, I can say from experience that the banhammer works on me, considering I have felt its wrath on Kingdom of Loathing. Don't worry, it was for taking a controversial debate too far. I doubt the banhammer would work on Chuck Norris himself, though. Even if it did, I woudn't want to try it on him. He'd probably be standing right behind you, in the middle of roundhousing you, even before the banhammer was swung. WATCH OUT FOR HIM!!!! —– [[User:Nuck Chorris|Nuck Chorris]] ([[User talk:Nuck Chorris|talk]]) 05:11, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

::::::The real one. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 05:21, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::I live in fear of him every day. Speaking of which, he's right behind me right now! Holy S***!!! Oh, wait... thats just the back of my chair. Nevermind... False alarm... Anyways, I've got more maps to work on now, so carry on without me. —– [[User:Nuck Chorris|Nuck Chorris]] ([[User talk:Nuck Chorris|talk]]) 05:41, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

== Why? ==

Do you removed the image of Twinleaf Town from Platinum.[[User:Mario136|Mario136]] 18:51, 30 July,2009 (UTC)
:Despite the fact that it's from the latest game, it was of a lower quality and had giant arrows on it. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 19:46, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

== Equivalent to Wikipedia's {{wp|Template:Superseded-Image}}? ==

Trom – since you were the one who welcomed me, and you seem to be fairly active and helpful – do you know if Bulbapedia has an equivalent to Wikipedia's {{wp|Template:Superseded-Image}}? I uploaded a higher-quality map for [[Eterna Forest]] ([[a:Image:EternaForest.png]]), but the old one still exists (Image:Eterna Forest.png). On Wikipedia, I know you'd just tag the old image with {{wp|Template:Superseded-Image}}, but as I can't find that or something similar on Bulbapedia or Bulbagarden Archives, I don't know what to do. Any ideas? [[User:Nuck Chorris|Nuck Chorris]] 04:33, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
:Nah, you'd just mark it for deletion and say in the edit summary that you uploaded a better one. Which image is this? I'll get it for you.--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[User talk:RexRacer|Racer''']] 04:35, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
::Haha, just saw you linked it.--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[User talk:RexRacer|Racer''']] 04:36, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
::: Thanks! I assume I use <nowiki>{{delete}}</nowiki> to mark it for deletion, right? —– [[User:Nuck Chorris|Nuck Chorris]] ([[User talk:Nuck Chorris|talk]]) 05:02, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Yep.--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[User talk:RexRacer|Racer''']] 05:41, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

== Code help ==

Since you've already been so helpful in reducing my signature to nothing more that purple writing, I should ask how you get a coloured background on your userpage :P thanks in advance --[[User:Dragon Master|'''Dragon]]''' [[User talk:Dragon Master|'''Master]]''' 12:43, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
:[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Dragon_Master&diff=prev&oldid=822131 Replied] on your talk page. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:15, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

== Re:Signature ==
thanks! it works now!--[[User:Rotom45|Rotom]][[User Talk:Rotom45|Let me get the lawnmower!]] 01:59, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
:[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rotom45&diff=prev&oldid=822132 Replied] on your talk page. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:15, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

dont worry. i'll follow Bulbapedia's rules and respect it's policy!--[[User:Rotom45|Rotom]][[User Talk:Rotom45|Let me get the lawnmower!]] 02:16, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

== Idea ==

Since I'm not very good at coding, I thought I could give you an idea; the big list of moves on the [[List of moves|List of moves article]] could possibly be reconstructed on the [[Contest category| Contest category article]], but with only move name and contest type (without power, accuracy, fughting type, etc.) Do you think that is a good idea and would you be able to do that/find someone to do that? If not I can have a go, but as I say, I'm not very knowledgable in that area. Thanks --[[User:Dragon Master|'''Dragon]]'''[[User talk:Dragon Master|'''Master]]''' 09:11, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
:I've been working on compiling a list similar to the one near the bottom of, say {{t|Rock|this page}}, for contests. It's largely incomplete and in [[User:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/Hell|a sandbox]]. This is largely a copy-and-paste job from the moves' individual articles designed to tidy up articles like [[Cool Contest]], so feel free to chip in if you want. I haven't touched it for about half a year... —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 11:44, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

== Undoing my changes. ==

I was wondering why some Pokémon pages auto-forward, and some don't. Help?
--[[User:FromCrimsonToWool|FromCrimsonToWool]] 03:07, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:We call it ''redirecting''. If a Pokémon exists in another media, typically the anime (e.g. [[Ash's Pikachu]]) or manga (e.g. [[Poochyena (CCP)]]), the page doesn't redirect and serves as a ''disambiguation''. This is done because if someone searches for, say, Bulbasaur, they may be looking for {{OP|Ash|Bulbasaur}}, {{OP|May|Bulbasaur}}, [[Saur|one from the manga]], or simply the {{p|Bulbasaur|species}}. Think of it as kind of a signpost. Not all Pokémon are special enough though (e.g. [[Paras]]), so they don't have the disambiguation page as searchers will clearly be looking for the article about the species. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:13, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Okay, so how, and thus where, do we all draw the line? Also, why not just include a link at the top of the pokémon page for something like that?--[[User:FromCrimsonToWool|FromCrimsonToWool]] 03:30, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:Generally if a Trainer's Pokémon has an article, the Pokémon page gets disambiguated. This is our system, and this is how it's worked for a couple of years. There was a poll about this less than two years ago, when the users had the chance to vote about this. For [[Bulbapedia talk:Disambiguation poll|many reasons]], this is what we came up with. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:38, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
::That is an argument that has gone on since the beginning. It was decided that changing it would upset more people than it does keeping it the same. It would also make soooo many things much harder. It is something that is set in stone, and will never change. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 03:38, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
Hokay. Thanks. I just kind of figured that there would have been more support for it to be the other way around, as in more game centric.--[[User:FromCrimsonToWool|FromCrimsonToWool]] 03:51, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

== Brendan ==

Holy crap man... you just helped more than you know, doing those party templates. I was gonna try to get them done in the next few days, and you just made my life easier. I know that you didn't make any mistakes other than that one getting the Pokémon mixed up, but I'm gonna go over it once more tomorrow just for yucks. Seriously though, thanks. x-x '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 04:11, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:If there was something wrong, it'll have been wrong on May's page too. It was a direct copy-paste. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 05:25, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

::Crappit. *checks May* Yeah... oh well. Fixed now. Still, thanks for that. Oops. And I forgot, Brendan has a slightly different team than May. I'll change that too... '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 19:00, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:::Different? Really? How odd. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:06, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

::::Don't worry about it. I shoulda caught it last night, but I had just gotten home from the airport a few hours earlier. That's my fault, not yours. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 20:23, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

== ABC ==

Sorry about all this constantly running-ideas-by-you thing, but I just dont yet feel its my place to go changing Bulbapedia without guidance. Anyway, do you think the list on [[List of game characters|this page]] should be alphebatised? If so, let me know on [[User talk:Dragon Master| my talk page]] and I'll get right on to it...Thanks--[[User:Dragon Master|'''Dragon]]'''[[User talk:Dragon Master|'''Master]]''' 07:21, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:That's already. I enjoy being able to help. The answer is "Nope". It appears to be on an importance-first basis. It's fine as is. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:05, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

::I've got one, mostly for my education. Would this question have been better placed on the Talk tab of said page?--[[User:FromCrimsonToWool|FromCrimsonToWool]] 10:15, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

:::Well, yeah, if you wanna get all literal on me... :P --[[User:Dragon Master|'''Dragon]]'''[[User talk:Dragon Master|'''Master]]''' 12:09, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Actually, now I look and think about it, the more it seems like the list is in order of which comes first and when you meet them etc. --[[User:Dragon Master|'''Dragon]]'''[[User talk:Dragon Master|'''Master]]''' 12:10, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::FCTW: That's the way talk pages are meant to function. However, an article that obscure may not get noticed. I personally have no problem with people bringing things up on my talk page. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:06, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::Got it, thank you. {{unsigned|FromCrimsonToWool}}

==Shinx Comment==
I was trying to see if anyone thought it was interesting enough to put in trivia, not chatting it up. --[[User:Crystal_Shards|'''Crystal Shards''']] 16:52, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:Either way, X looks like Y trivia is an opinion. That kind of thing isn't allowed, because two people may see things differently. We try and be objective. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:06, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
::Could have explained that earlier instead of just taking it out. --[[User:Crystal_Shards|'''Crystal Shards''']] 22:42, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:::That's how things get done here. Unacceptable comments are removed, to prevent people abusing the talk page for discussion about the subject of the article, rather than its content. This is all explained in that lovely green welcome on the top of your usertalk page. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:58, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Yeah I read that; thanks anyway. Too bad we just had a different definition of "unacceptable" at that point in time. --[[User:Crystal_Shards|'''Crystal Shards''']] 01:35, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

== Template ==

I've created a template {{template|HeldItems}}. I need work on a parser, the Gen I one. After that, we can all insert the stuff accordingly. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 21:02, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
:Once that's done, I'll organize the held items according to items (category). [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 21:03, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
::Final thing. I also need another section for Pokemon with 2 possible held items. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 21:05, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
:::Sorry Trombonator, I couldn't sleep and felt the need to handle this one (with a little help from {{u|TTEchidna|a certain echidna}}). {{unsigned|MisterE13}}
::::Sigh... clearly you guys totally missed the fact that I'd already created one... template:held item... —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:54, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::Ironic how I even posted on that template talk page... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 01:49, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::And in its section on my third talk archive. Seeing as it's apparently nicer, I've unprotected it to allow you to make any changes you wish. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:51, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Cool....Gen II has weird percentages though...8%...I dunno how to handle that... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 01:53, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Are they standard, or different per Pokémon? If they are the same we can have it set up to use the tt template. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:54, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Seems to be different unfortunately...Sacred Ash/Leftovers for instance for Ho-oh/Snorlax. 100%. Speaking of which...Numel and Vulpix are 100% also...so scratch that. That method isn't that great... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 01:59, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::There is a clause in there for 100%. Or, at least, I had one drafted. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:00, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:Oh. Did you see the ones where I used the template? As of now though, just protect it. I'm not the greatest with tables... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 02:02, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::I've actually been doing some work on ht's. Unfotunately, I think third versions can be different than the other two. Should we seperate?--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 02:03, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:::Umm...not only that...Elekid and Magby...though minor problem. More major issue may be images and redirects...Stardust... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 02:05, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Images should all have standard filenames. If you spot any more that aren't, let me know. The D/P mismatch could potentially be solved with a footer. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:12, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::Right...Nugget? Also...berries...most of the held items are berries. With the format right now...t's not linking to it... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 02:15, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::Yes, nuggets and berries are now named correctly. The correct filename is File:Bag Name Sprite.png. I like what MisterE13 did with the itemtype. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:19, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Sorry and thanks...Soft Sand...Poison Barb...type-enhancing items...all right. Just protect it...I can't take this right now... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 02:20, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::::They got done a while ago. I've decided to leave it open. MisterE or tc may want to play. If anyone else wants to take a stab, be my guest. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:23, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:Right. One last thing. Can you categorize the Template:Held item/100 as {{cat|Pokémon with wild held items}}. Thanks for everything. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 02:28, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::Way ahead of you there. :P —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:29, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:::XD Problem...as I was saying before...Sentret...Berry leads to Berries, which is what we're not talking about here... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 02:32, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Last thing. GSC didn't have sprites... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 02:33, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::Just finished fixing. Actually, I'm doing a lot of work on it right now so you might want to wait a bit before asking fo anything else :).--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 02:41, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::OK. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 02:44, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::: *hopes it's not too late* Shards. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 03:09, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Yellow and Red are fine but the others were uploaded in .gif format. If you can fix that (you were the original uploader, after all), tag the old ones with {{template|delete}} and replace the links. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:11, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::Done. So it'll be <nowiki>[[Image:Bag_<color>_Shard_Sprite.png]]</nowiki>. Unless you want to move it and make it simpler that is... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 03:21, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
I've started a three step plan I conceived last night to perfect this template. I just need to know if there are any version-exclusives other than the Light Ball in Gen I, the Soul Dew in Gen III, and the Magmarizer/Electrizer in Gen IV? This would include any item with different rates or found on a different Pokémon.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 18:34, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
::I would think that's it. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 18:51, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
:::It's done you know, does anyone need a walkthrough?--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 02:46, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
::::I can probably figure it out. If you haven't, though, you should post it noincluded on the template page so when we are dead and gone and the fourteenth generation is being released, the Bulbapedians of the future can figure it out. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:14, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::LOL to that. If the world lasts that long anyway... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 19:38, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

== News Page discussion ==

Hey trom, I made a comment here (http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Many_features_to_return_to_HeartGold,_SoulSilver) about the latest news from CoroCoro magazine when you get a chance. Provided a bit of translation to clear up any speculation/confusion. :)

Also, how the hell do you sign comments on here. :| {{unsigned|Gimmetokyo}}

:Use <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. Either type them, or use the thing under the text box. Both of them work. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 18:39, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

== I am sorry! ==

I won't do it again. But I get back soon.--[[User:Pokelover195|Pokelover195]] 20:38, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
:{{wp|Little Britain|Computer says no}}. You abused our trust. You have to earn it back. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:39, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
Ok. I agree. --[[User:Pokelover195|Pokelover195]] 23:04, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

But how can I earn it back? --[[User:Pokelover195|Pokelover195]] 19:16, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
:You need to edit the articles. Any page that doesn't have a prefix in front of it, like {{p|Pikachu|this one}}, [[Wiki Berry|this one]], [[Route 103|this one]] or [[Special:Random|this one]]. Start with what you know, and go from there. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:04, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

== Hey Trom! ==

Did you have a sandbox. or not on your userpage. Because I want to check out user's Sandbox. --[[User:Pokelover195|Pokelover195]] 21:08, 9 August 2009 (UTC)-
:Nope. To be honest, you don't need one; you are currently unable to edit any pages in the userspace (that is to say, any page prefixed by <code>User:</code>). In any regard, a sandbox is just a testing area. People have different things in them depending on what they are working on. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:12, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

== Random thing ==

For berries on the actual berries page, should we leave it the way it is or use sprites from [http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/rsberryspr.html here]? It's for consistency with the e-Reader berries. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 03:59, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:Ask the {{u|RexRacer|Project Leader}}. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 09:19, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

==*space reserved for Arceus99*==
Hey Dark Lord i didn't delete ur page or anything it must have been my younger brother he seems to hack into my account easily
anyway i apologize -Arceus99
:guys belive me i dint edit ur page my brothers a computer geek
Arceus99
::I suggest you get a password he can't guess then. If we see you removing stuff again, the account will be blocked, regardless of who did it. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:13, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

ok-arceus99

== Arceus and the Jewel of Life ==

Just because you're a sysop doesn't mean you can disregard the rules and revert confirmed and relevant edits. --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 22:02, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:I haven't disregarded any rules. The page was undergoing an edit war, and as per our procedures it has been left at its original state. As you are no doubt aware there is a discussion on the talk page. This was going on before you jumped in, and is still now. The rename will take place once an outcome has been established. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:37, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

== Cause you getting on AIM would be pointless... ==

If we tie again, does this mean I can revert you? Or can't I since you're basically above me in the power rank? Oh, and I need to ask you something as well. Can you roundy-ify the CharacterInfoBox stuff please? There's a lot to it and you're the only one who I'd ask to do it because I like making you work and I can't really touch the stuff, and cause I don't know how to round-ify stuff...--[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 01:32, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
:You're right, it would be. You can revert if you want to. I thought about it, but didn't want to fill up the newbie's inbox. What kind of color scheme you looking at? —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:38, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
::Well, I was actually kinda particular for a categorization thing going. Like 4 colors, one for each generation, which also categorizes them by the color into generation, ie Mr. Stone having a red color and having all red color ones categorized into Gen 3 characters. However, if it isn't possible to do that, just make them all how they were and just roundy-ify them, please. :D. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 01:43, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
:::We can do that! Just name the color schemes. The only problem atm is that anime and manga use the same template. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:45, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Hm...Well, that might be a problem...Uh...if anything I'd like them of course to be "color name" color light, but I'd go with yellow, crystal, emerald and platinum perhaps for respective generational debut...If not, tell me which ones would be a problem...--[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 01:56, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

== Pokemon Diamond ==

What!? You didnt complete the national dex in diamond!? I have pearl,diamond,and platinum and i completed the pokedex without transfering! I am a 10 year old boy and ur 18!-Arceus99
:Anyone else like to point out that I'm a failure in life, or are we done here? —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:14, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

== Apricorn Shaker ==

Could you delete it from [[List of key items in Generation IV]]? It's confirmed that it is NOT an item, but rather an overworld tool like Berry Blender or Poffin Mixer. Having it listed as item is completely irrelevant. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 19:35, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
:Cheers, Maxim. If it hasn't been taken off already I'll get it now. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:14, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

sorry

== Apricorn Table ==

Hello Trom. I fixed the table as you asked, fixed the border, labeled the table like the old one, and added the Japanese Apricorn names. The only thing I did not do was redo the image labels as TTE said,"Remove the image links and die...". So if you want them changed as someone else did to the other table (I do not know if it was authorized) so I just left them. If you need anything else done to it just ask. ([[Talk:Apricorn|Table still on talk page]]) also I will not replace the table until you tell me to, or you can just do it. –[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 19:46, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
:Thanks for your effort, Master K. I see someone did have a deathwish, so I've put it on the page. Again, thanks. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:14, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
::No problem at all. Thanks for the suggestions. –[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 23:12, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

== Something I want you to check out... ==

Yo Tromski, I know you got about a gazillion stuff to do already (including the {{{nick}}} parameter to our lovely template), but I need you to take a look at [[User:ElectAbuzzzz/Sandbox|this]]. I did my best so far but I'll need help with the moves tables. If you can, go on AIM. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 22:42, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

==Proposition==
What do you think about deleting the users who haven't made any contributions? Would that make a difference of the size of Bulbapedia? At least we can warn them to contribute or be blocked. I took a look at the new users since 2006 and saw that most didn't make contributions... then I saw BULBABOT's contributions and stopped soon after it. Would this make any difference whatsoever? Or should we keep them all to show how many users we have? Just a thought, but think about it. [[User:Pyles|Pyles]] 23:27, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
:Accounts can't be deleted. End of story. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:28, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
::Really? no acceptions? seems kind of a waste of space. [[User:Pyles|Pyles]] 23:31, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
:::People create accounts for various reasons. Some people register to secure their wellknown username from other sites to prevent people impersonating them. Some people register to avoid seeing the ads while they browse. Some people register to create fake pages and disrupt the creation of the encyclopedia. Everyone has different intentions for signing up, and with the exception of <s>dickheads</s> vandals, we shouldn't penalize anyone. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:35, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Thanks for clearing up my ignorance of other stuff on Bulbapedia. I didn't even think of some of those things. [[User:Pyles|Pyles]] 23:37, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

==Thanks==
I am AuraGaurdian. Thanks for your advice, Trom. I'll remember to leave a timestamp from now on.--[[User:AuraGaurdian|AuraGaurdian]] 23:54, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

==AIM==
I'm on, now--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 09:27, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
:-- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 01:22, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

==Friend Code==

Hey darklord do u have wifi on diamond i thought we could do a wifi battle using my platinum and ur diamond-Arceus99★☆★♪
:Nope. I don't. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:01, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Oh its ok!-Arceus99

== Thanks for the "In other languages" part ==

I forgot to add the lines so thanks.--[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight Blue]] 03:52, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

==Solidad==
hey man just wondering why you deleted my page on solidad's slowbro everything on there was true slowbro appeared in more than 1 episode it was in three i would say slowbro and evan lapras could be said to be solidads signiture pokemon so i dont see why her pokemon can't have a page
[[User:solidadrox|'''solidadrox''']][[User talk:solidadrox|'''''']][[Special:Contributions/solidadrox|'''''']]
:This has been explained on your talk page, but I'll put it here anyway. Bulbapedia has devloped a notability policy to discourage short low-quality articles. You probably posted here before you saw what Kenji-girl wrote on your talk page, but if you follow the link she provided you'll see the table listing for [[Drew]]'s Pokémon that haven't done enough. See, it doesn't come down to the number of appearances, or the number of battles they won. Plot and character devlopment are very important here. I hope I've made this clear. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:01, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

== I'm Sorry! ==

I should've known. Next time I will make sure to not use names like "you". That means I'll use "the player" then.
--[[User:Naoy5|Naoy5]] 17:48, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
:Nothing to be sorry about. It's just a learning curve. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:56, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

== What are we to make of these? ==

{{ms|351S}}{{ms|351R}}{{ms|351H}} Although rather well made, they're certainly unofficial. They would go well in certain tables though.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 09:09, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
:If you haven't done so already, ask the Echidna. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 19:48, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
::His page is protected. That's why I came here.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 20:59, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

Thanks for fixing up my mistakes! The TRsRockin page is still a work-in progress. I posted what i had because i had to get off the computer, and it was MOSTLY done. Lol. I'll be adding to it sometime tomorrow. :3 Thanks for fixing it up for me. [[User:CherryParanoia|CherryParanoia]] 18:06, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

== New user archiving already... ==

Hey Trom I was floating around and found that a new user, [[User:Thatguywiththecodes|Thatguywiththecodes]], already archived there talk page: [[User_talk:Thatguywiththecodes/Archive_1|Archived stuff]]. Additionally they removed the welcome message when they have already been told to leave it... If you need any assistance just let me know. ;) -[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 01:58, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
:i have "taken care" of this issue. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 02:09, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
::Thanks Magnedeth. –[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 02:54, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
:::I threw away my welcome as soon as I could. Although, that was back when it was a wall of text. And a small wall of that. I like what you did there, Mister Deth :D —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 05:04, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

== Hi, about talk page archiving. ==

When do I know when it is time to archive my page? Oh do you know how to make one of those HP bars for a talk page? I'm trying to figure it out but had no luck.--[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight Blue]] 02:16, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
:Ask TTE or someone. As for Archiving, it is the user choice to Archive his/her talkpage.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 02:59, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
::Some users archive when they've received enough hate mail to feel uncomfortable when they look at it. Some users archive at a particular size. I archive every three months. I don't care how big it gets, that's when it happens. It really is up to you. To make a talk page bar, go to someone else's page, steal their code, work out what it does (in SHOW PREVIEW mode so we don't see you screwing around and think you're a genius on the first save), and edit to suit your own style. That's the best way to figure out how some of the complicated wikimarkup works. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 05:04, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

== Talk page ==

Hello Trom, do you mind if I use a similar table to your for my talk page. I will give you credit, and it will be quite a bit different. –[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 21:09, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
:Go for your life. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:11, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
::Thanks. That kinda sounds bad though :O –[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 21:18, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
:::Done with it if you want to take a look at my talkpage. Thanks again Trom! –[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 22:05, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

==Space reserved for WeedleMaster==
Thanks!

I haven't been here long so I will try to work on my spelling.

[[User: WeedleMaster]]
:You can sign properly, too, by typing <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> at the end of each comment. This automatically puts your name and a timestamp at the end of the comment, and is the correct way to sign on any wiki. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:13, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Sweet!

[[User:WeedleMaster|WeedleMaster]] 21:51, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

== Dude you got issues. ==

I can reply to a message that are nearly 1 year old if i want to.So why go out of your way to tell me otherwise.Im still having trouble with viewing the photo's on the indigo league episode page.So i reported to the talk page to inform others that i too have had problems with viewing photos on that page.--[[User:Solidstate|Solid!]] 10:46, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
:Damn straight I have issues. I'm just telling you that the discussions there are quite often out of date. If you're having issues too you could either wait three years so I can finish my Psychology degree, or start a new section at the bottom of the page where you're more likely to get a relevant reply. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:48, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
::Beside, it's kinda stupid to reply to an out of date conversation when the problem has either been resolved or forgotten.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 10:51, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
Appolgy acepted Trom.--[[User:Solidstate|Solid!]] 12:56, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
:It isn't an apology if you edit my comment to put it in. The edit history tells all, Solid. Let that be a lesson to you. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:49, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

== Thanks for telling me how to sign! ==

lol, I'm not sure if this is the right page for messages or whatever...

Sorry if my use of phrases like, "Wtf" are against the rules. I just couldn't stand anymore seeing misleading information on this site. [[User:Chaos Rush|Chaos Rush]] 19:52, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
:Yep, messages go here. A lot of people here actually reply on their own talk pages when people leave them messages (this helps keep the conversation together), but it's up to you. There isn't anything wrong with saying "wtf". If you haven't read our {{bp|code of conduct}}, it pretty much describes how you ought to interact with other editors. You're doing a great job so far. Keep it up! —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:54, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Hey, I'd like to ask another question: I tried uploading the correct Platinum Mareep sprite (179.png), however on Mareep's page, the D/P sprite is still displayed under "Platinum Sprites". So then I uploaded a Spr_4p_179.png, but the sprite still displayed is the D/P sprite under "Platinum Sprites". Do you know how to fix that? (Oh, and about that blanked page, that was an accident, sorry, I was trying to fix the sprite)[[User:Chaos Rush|Chaos Rush]] 22:14, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
:It isn't automatic. The data has to be transferred from one server to another. Just give it a bit of time. And, yes, the upload did work the first time. Sometimes the old data is 'cached' and the new image doesn't display. About blanking the page... well, that was bad no matter what you were trying to do. At least replacing it with a description of what the image was would have sufficed. Now that you have your Archives Welcome things should hopefully be easier for you. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:17, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

== Team Rocket Sprite ==
I just wanted to leave a message thanking you for replacing the sprite on my Usertag. No matter how hard I looked around Bulbapedia I just couldn't find that Team Rocket sprite, so thanks! [[User:ASecondOpinion1501|ASecondOpinion1501]] 23:52, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
:No problem. If you ever are looking for Trainer Class sprites, we have an article on every [[:Category:Trainer classes|Trainer Class]]. As far as I'm aware, all our sprites are complete there. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:54, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
:: Well, I feel pretty stupid now. I looked down that list and managed to completely skip the Team Rocket Grunt link. Oh well, I suppose I'll just have to look more carefully next time ;) Thanks again! [[User:ASecondOpinion1501|ASecondOpinion1501]] 00:00, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

== Eevee Pokédex ==

Trom, just to let you know all of the Eevee Pokédex URL are outdated (on the collapsible menu under external links on the Pokémon info box). It looks like all the URL just got changed from the National Dex number to the Pokémons name. (ie. from pokemon/001 to pokemon/bulbasaur)

Is there someway we can fix this? –'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 21:41, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
:While there was nothing wrong with the redirects from ndex to the name (apart from some potential server stress at Veekun's end) I've updated the link generating process. It should be fine now. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:35, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
::Thanks for doing that Trom. –'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 23:59, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

== *shoots Trom* ==

On TCG Trivia, there isn't a whatchcallit (*) if there's just one piece of it. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 03:08, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

== HELP ==

I created a Frontier parser, but I need to add that to the re1, se1, and e1 parser, similar to what was done with the Lati@s parser. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 15:03, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
:OK, ht kinda freaked out on everyone here but you and I seem to have fixed it. What I need to know is if you think you can add a series of multi-form subtemplates I made a while ago to {{Template|Side game}}. They're all posted on the talk page (though I may have missed something) also, be warned, they may not work 100% because I was pretty inexperienced when I made them.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 01:57, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
::Verify that they work then make me a sandbox to copy. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:12, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
:::It's in my sandbox. Some minor alignment issues seem to have popped up but I was never very good with that (and it could just be my IE).--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 22:33, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
::::Done. Don't forget our nonverbal unwritten contract. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:19, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

== Kiaora ==

Hi, i was wondering if you could help with updating the party template on my user page, I tried after the home page told me to but I couldn't figure it out. Any help would be appreciated.''[[User:Sui|'''Sui''']][[User talk:Sui|'''Topaz''']]'' 22:30, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
:Here's the deal. You've been editing your userspace an awful lot in the short time you've been here. How about editing ten different articles before I update your template. Bulbapedia isn't a social site - it's an encyclopedia, and we need your help to complete it. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:21, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
::Deal''[[User:Sui|'''Sui''']][[User talk:Sui|'''Topaz''']]'' 04:53, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

== Routes 48, 49 ==

Sorry, I haven't seen a source dictating these as their names. Can you supply this? It may turn out that they have descriptive names like the Sevii Islands routes. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:11, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

: Here are two pictures I just took. [commented out coz they're huge :D]

[[User:MARXOR|MARXOR]] 01:40, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

:Cheers. About five minutes after I asked you, it was mentioned on some of the news sites that are going hardcore over this. We'll get articles written up in time, most likely after we get any decent kind of substantial information. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 05:44, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

==Thanks==
Thanks for handling the last part of the new Johto Dex numbers for me and I added that trivia piece liked you asked but only on the Legendary Beasts page which is best suited for it. But I tell you it while it was a long and tiring process I made sure not to make any mistakes so there is no need for further edits on those pages. But anyway check out the new trivia piece and make your own changes if you need to. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 19:44, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
:Thanks again for doing that for us. I'd agree that the Legendary Beasts article is the best. Having triplicate trivia is kind of boring, and it relates to all three of them. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 19:47, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

== Sprite deleting ==

I'm sorry to bother you, but could you delete [a really sucky jpg (comment edited by trom coz he deleted the sucky jpg)]? I updated his page's sprite for a png. -- [[User:RikkiKitsune|R<s>ikki</s>]][[User talk:RikkiKitsune|Kitsune]] 21:57, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
:Yahuh. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:00, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

== A Couple of things... ==

Hi Trom! I fixed the Giovanni template to have the same colours as the Team Rocket template, you can [[User:MasterKenobi/Gym_Leaders#Pok.C3.A9mon_HeartGold_and_SoulSilver_18|find the Giovanni template here]]. Is that colour scheme look all right? If not, what colours should we use? If so, we can go ahead and use it for the admins too.

Also, I have been working on the abilities of the Gym Leaders Pokémon and a couple of other trainers. I know how to find a couple such as Falkner's Pidgey, I will use smokescreen and if it lowers the accuracy, the ability is Keen Eye if not, it is Tangled Feet. Where I become stuck is at Pokémon such as Bugsy's Scyther where the abilities are Swarm or Technician, and I do not know how to determine the ability. I may need help with a few others too. Thanks ;) –'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 17:33, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
:Colors are fine. A darker grey might be preferable, but I'm not that fussed. Finalizing moves and abilities can be done using an Action Replay. Catch the Gym Leader's Pokémon and look in the status screen. That's how we found out Cynthia's Pokémon have perfect IVs. Dirty little.... —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:20, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
::We will keep those colours then until we decide we dislike them then. Darker grey was what I was thinking too. I will work on the gym leaders Pokémon then, that is an easier method. Wow, Perfect IV's!
::[[image:BrockHGSS.gif]][[File:BrockHGSS.png]]

::Also, I wanted to ask you about the gym leader sprites. Do we want to use the moving one (gif) or non-moving one (png). I have been alternating between both by having the non-moving ones for the gym leader gym battle template and the moving one for the rematch. An example of this is on the [[User:MasterKenobi/Gym_Leaders|Gym leader template page]]. In my personal opinion some of the moving sprites move too fast such as the Brock one. Also, as a side note some of the moving ones make the party template size different. So which way should it be done? Thanks Trom. –'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 20:37, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
:::I'm not a fan of the moving sprites. They slow down my browser. Although we've used animated sprites for Pt, that Brock one is of rather poor quality. It's up to you I guess. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:44, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
::::I will just stick with the one moving, one non-moving then. –'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 21:08, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

== Can you do someting for me? ==

Could it be possible that you can protect Leaf for a while until we get things settled?--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 21:18, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
:It's fine commented out. As far as I know, no one's actually played through with Kotone so we have no confirmation of a gender inverse. It's more than likely that it's still Red, what with all the references, but just leave it hidden, ok? —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:25, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
:Alright, thanks.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 21:26, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

==Need you to do a small fix==
Thank you for merging the Battle Frontier content, however the region stuff for Sinnoh and Johto is messed up and I tried a previewed link correction but it isn't going to work so if you can could you take a crack at it. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]]
:Fixed. {{u|Sol}} did it. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:29, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
::Glad someone got to it so the only thing left is updating the Pokémon League template with the new stuff, but anyway that is all I have to say for now. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 21:33, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
:::One more issue. The caption is incorrect (either 2 images or one with the correct one). [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 21:34, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
::::Once we get a Johto map I'll see if I can set it up to alternate between them. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:36, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

== Wikipedia ==

Wied you delete wikipedia? Why does it break your haerT? Sorry I'm asking these questions, but i just made the page. (I'm friendly with this, don't worry i'm not threatening you in any way). * --[[User:Tommy-SAN|'''T☆MMY''']][[User talk:Tommy-SAN|'''SAN!''']][[Special:Contributions/Tommy-SAN|'''♂''']]
:I'm a Wikipedian at heart, but there's no room for this article on Bulbapedia. Wikipedia as a whole has nothing to do with Pokémon. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:46, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

** Okay, i understand! Sorry, I don't wanna spam your talk page. * --[[User:Tommy-SAN|'''T☆MMY''']][[User talk:Tommy-SAN|'''SAN!''']][[Special:Contributions/Tommy-SAN|'''♂''']] 3:07 PM September 14, 2009 (UTC)

==Response to userspace policy==
i did read it, and i understand. but it seems like even just sharing in game data in my userspace gets the admins telling me to stop. im not using it like a twitter or a facebook. and i would like to help contribute to the mainspace, but i simply dont know enough about pokemon to edit with confidence. to me it doesnt seem fair that i cant show people my pokemon simply because im not a pokemon guru. it seems like almost everything is covered here :/ please dont take this the wrong way, ill gladly stop editing if it will hurt me and other people. [[User:Volsak|Volsak]] 22:08, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
:There is a lot that can be done on Bulbapedia. Believe it or not, we are far from complete! There are a lot of {{cat|stubs}} here—short articles that need expanding. Have a look through the list and see if there are any articles from the games you've played. I'm sure you'll find something to do. A more general to-do list can be found on the main page. I like your userpage, by the way :D —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:12, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

== TY ==

Thanks for cleaning my edit. It was quite embarrassing to read what I actually wrote... [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 11:09, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
:Any time. It wasn't that bad, really. I've seen a lot worse. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 11:11, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

== Still online? ==

If you are, log on for a sec, I need to ask you something. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 11:23, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

== Items ==

Hello Trom. I was wondering how we wanted to have the items. Do we want them just plainly listed like on the [[Route_32#Pok.C3.A9mon_HeartGold_and_SoulSilver_2|Route 32 page]] or do we want them listed and have a description like on the [[New_Bark_Town#Items|New Bark Town page]]. So far I have been making the item list similar to the New Bark Town page, so that would be fine if we stayed like that, and on top of that it adds detail... –'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 23:37, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

== help? ==

I would like to start a article of a tv channel for Project TV and would like to start.Where would i be able to start it without actually having it online and viewable by everyone until its ready to be realeased.Thanks --[[User:Solidstate|Solid!]] 08:20, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
:Impossible. Sorry. You can do it offline in Windows Notepad or a similar program, or make it in a user subpage. To make a user subpage write ''User:Solidstate/[subpage name]'' in the searchbar, and then click "create article". I would prefer it to happen that way, but whichever method you choose is up to you. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:27, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks-Ive started a page on channels that have showed Pokemon episodes [[tv2]] and i thought since you were from New zealand also (ithink) you might be able to add to it if not it's okay.Thanks --[[User:Solidstate|Solid!]] 10:34, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
:Yeah, this is getting a big cleanup. It's eventually going to get merged into ''Pokémon in New Zealand'', but we'll keep it up for now. Thanks for starting it off. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:37, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

== Wikia ==

What's your username on Wikia? What wikis are you on, we may have the same interests (We seem to already have an interest in Pokémon)! I'm an administrator on most wikias I'm on. (DON'T THINK THIS IS SPAM) * --[[User:Tommy-SAN|'''T☆MMY''']][[User talk:Tommy-SAN|'''SAN!''']][[Special:Contributions/Tommy-SAN|'''♂''']]
:I'm "The dark lord trombonator" and I'm barely active there. I pop up now and again on pokemon.wikia to make sure that no one's stealing our content... again... —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 05:30, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

==An error to bring up==
Nice work on updating HeartGold and SoulSilver and creating a Pokémon section for that page, but I noticed of a typing error on the parenthesis for the first paragraph regarding FireRed and LeafGreen. THere are 3 present when there should be 2 or 4. Thought you should know. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 04:57, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
:Dammit... I thought I was doing good. I'll get onto that... —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 04:59, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
::Thanks, and on another quick topic I removed unconfirmed details from Metapods' page about game location. Since even on Serebii.net it is acknowledged as being unconfirmed of it not being in SoulSilver, I going to help monitor that all unconfirmed details stay off this site until they are properly verified. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 05:06, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

== Sandbox ==

How come I'm not allowed to have a sandbox? [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 07:16, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
:It's not that you aren't allowed to have a sandbox. We encourage the use of sandboxes. However, don't edit in your userspace too much because it can stress the server. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:17, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
::Well, okay, no problem there. It's just, I've barely had it a couple hours and I'm getting policy warnings or whatever. If it's a problem don't worry then, delete it and I'll find something else to do. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 07:22, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
::Not a problem. I didn't mean it as a warning, just a reminder. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:24, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

== Hey trom ==

Hey Trom, need a gallade, or a darkrai, '''don't touch my darkrai''', but still , I'm in NZ and have quite a few pokemon that you might not have. So if you need my friend code for some trading, check out my talk page!P.S: I'm not a hacker, I hate hackers, got my darkrai legit, Aug 3-Sep 13, members card: 27 dusk balls and 5 ultra balls down the drain. But it was all worth it.

User talk:The dark lord trombonator/Archive4

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My replies will go here, so make sure to be watching this page. If you're a first-time poster here, I'll leave a note on your talk page too. Next archive planned for October 1.... —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 12:11, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
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== See this ==

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| style="background: #e6e6ff; border-radius-topright: 10px; -moz-border-radius-topright: 10px; padding: 2px 10px;" | {{TP|Brock|Onix|Steelix}} ([[Brock]]) • {{TP|Misty|Starmie}} ([[Misty]]) • {{TP|Lt. Surge|Raichu}} ([[Lt. Surge]]) • {{TP|Erika|Gloom}} ([[Erika]]) • {{TP|Koga|Venomoth}} ([[Koga]])/Crobat ([[Janine]]) 
{{TP|Sabrina|Kadabra}}/Alakazam ([[Sabrina]]) • {{TP|Blaine|Magmar}} ([[Blaine]]) • {{TP|Giovanni|Persian}}/Nidoking? ([[Giovanni]])/<?> ({{ga|Blue}}) 
{{TP|Lorelei|Cloyster}} ([[Lorelei]]) • {{TP|Bruno|Onix}}/Machamp ([[Bruno]]) • Gengar ([[Agatha]]) • {{TP|Lance|Dragonite}} ([[Lance]])
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Poliwrath/{{TP|Chuck|Machoke}} ([[Chuck]]) • Steelix ([[Jasmine]]) • {{TP|Pryce|Piloswine}} ([[Pryce]]) • {{TP|Clair|Dragonair}}/Kingdra ([[Clair]]) 
Xatu ([[Will]]) • Umbreon/Murkrow ([[Karen]])
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This is only the first two regions...working on it...how is it? [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 14:29, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
:Is it really necessary? —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:52, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
::Ehh...debatable for now... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 01:31, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

== Whoops ==

[[User:MisterE13/Sandbox|Here]], I figured out a little something that will work a little better. Sorry about that and thaks for everuthing.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 18:48, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
:Done. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:52, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
::Some new stuff on there now, got rid of some redirects and added Rotom and Castform clauses. BTW, yes I had made one final mistake on the Infobox which is now fixed in my Sandbox I'm 100% sure it will work now though (and Shaymin's page will be perfect{{tt|.|Muhahaha}})--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 01:01, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Which new stuff am I supposed to install? —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:13, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
::::Everything, its kind-of scattered in the first two so I suppose you could copy/paste. If that's no good, most of it was just redirect-avoiding (which I do believe is good). Other than that, it was just Rotom, Castform (and a slight Burmy) clauses.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 03:17, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::Query: What do the "improvements" actually do? Just sprite altering? —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:25, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::A lot of redirects to [[Forme differences]] are avoided (don't know if that's as important as I think it is), putting in 412 automatically inserts a little "Plant Cloak" (for Burmy), the TM one now allows for Rotom (complete with sprites and "Forme differences" links) and they both allow for Castform (links only, obviously). That's pretty much it I think.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 03:41, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::There are yet more last minute modifications in there now. Thanks for the trouble.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 07:20, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
As it turns out, I had made a small placement error. All better now :D.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 15:27, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
:There's something new in there now (no moveentries this time, I promise)--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 14:42, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

== Books ==

Hey Trom, should we start making articles about the Pokémon books? A couple I can name of the top of my head are: Pokémon pop quiz by Carli Entin, and Attack of the prehistoric Pokémon by Tracey West. Actually, could we just make it a project? I could put together a list before you decided if you want. Thanks Trom! -[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 03:43, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:Yeah, definitely go ahead with that. I wouldn't suggest a full-flown project just yet, but maybe we can organise something more formal once some work has actually been done. Tracey West doesn't even have an article yet, so that may be a good place to start. I've read a few of her novelizations (but don't own any), and recall a bibliography on the back. And of course, the internet may be a good resource as well. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:36, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
::[http://www.traceywest.com/biography.html This] and [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=safari&rls=en-us&q=tracey+west+biography&revid=1279369419&ei=_mZMSvfoCYbyMcvY1PYD&sa=X&oi=revisions_inline&resnum=0&ct=broad-revision&cd=4 this] look like a good place to start. I will help with the project if it's created. *wishing I still had all of the books I had by her* --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 07:54, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Wow, that first site looks great! I suppose I'll get started on that article, then. Unless you have already. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:59, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
::::I haven't. And of course that first site looks great. It's her official sight. (lol) --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 08:00, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::Hm. I should get some more sleep. I thought I was talking to the same person then.... D: —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:16, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::lol What's this "sleep" of which you speak? It's 2:20 am here and I'm not tired at all. And it has nothing to do with the Pepsi I'm drinking. *should probably shut up now**goes to edit my userpage a ton (but only one recorded edit, no worries) and possibly create a couple book pages* Should we do pages for [http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Pokemon-Pop-Quiz/Carli-Entin/e/9780439154062 the pop quiz book mentioned above], [http://www.paperbackswap.com/book/details/9780816765270-Pokemon+Activity+Book the activity book], [http://www.amazon.com/How-Draw-Pokemon-Tracey-West/dp/0439434408 the how to draw Pokémon book (by Tracey West)], and/or [http://www.amazon.com/Pokemon-Official-Collectors-Sticker-Book/dp/0439106591 the sticker book]? --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 08:29, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::How about you try and do the lot? Keep up the quality, though. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:44, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Okay. They might not be very good, as there isn't much important stuff to write about (I believe). --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 08:48, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

OK, thanks Trom. I can probably get my hands on a couple of the books but will start out with just a list of to-do stuff. Thanks again, and get yourself some sleep! –[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 16:36, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:Trom, I made a [[User:MasterKenobi/Project Books/To-do list| To-do list]] and have quite a bit more to add. I think, that I could probably make a project out of this if I get an OK. Here is the first book article, [[Island of the Giant Pokémon (book)]] but, I think to make it look a bit better we could use a template that includes the title, book cover image, pages, publication date, ISBN # (This one I think isn't really needed), and publisher. For the series books though we could make it like the anime or the manga where it links to the book before it and after it. -[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 19:22, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

== Quick question ==

Do you know how to link directly to a category on a userpage without it getting included and making it appear? I'm trying to extend list of (non talk) pages I've created on my userpage, but it won't show the category pages. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 08:37, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
:{{template|cat}}. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:44, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
::Thanks! --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 08:51, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

== A Question ==

Three things (not all questions). First, how do you use special characters in the search boxes? Second, one of the pictures on your userpage doesn't display. Third, if there is supposed to be a Haunter pic on this page its not working and just says purplehaunter.png or something like that.--[[User:Swampert rox|Swampert rox]] 16:39, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
:The images are your problem, not mine. They all display for me. Try clearing your browser cache (Ctrl+F5). If, by special characters you mean the e-acute (é) you can either copy-paste from somewhere else, or you can type Alt+130. These can all be found in the character map for Windows. If you're on a Mac, I can't help you with that. There's probably a list on the internet of every special character ever created and the accompanying codes. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:49, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
::For Mac: The é is option-e-e. I use it all the time. Other symbols can be gotten by other option- combinations. All the letter keys plus have special chars. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 03:03, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
:::If you mean Alt + 1 + 3 + 0, it doesn't work. If that's not what you meant, what do I type?--[[User:Swampert rox|Swampert rox]] 21:19, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
::::I think he means to hold the Alt key and type 130 in that order, not all at once. I've never tried that method, though. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 21:22, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::Doesn't work (or do anything whatsoever).--[[User:Swampert rox|Swampert rox]] 14:58, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::Then something's up with your computer. I'd love to fix it, but... um.... yeah..... —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 05:18, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Alt+0233 can be used as an alternative for the e-acute. '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 05:20, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::::You have to use the numberpad to type the numbers, not the row at the top of the keyboard. If you are using a laptop which doesn't have a numberpad then you can buy a usb one quite cheaply, or just cope with the redirects that should have been created. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] 05:37, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::Most laptops have an Fn key anyway, which activates keys differently. It's what I use: I gotta hold Fn and Alt and hit jlm. é. Happy daaaaay! '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:08, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::That doesn't work for me either. Is there any alternative way for a laptop?--[[User:Swampert rox|Swampert rox]] 11:49, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

== Sorry again ==

Did I apologize for my behavior. I had not realized that I could not make other changes. I do not speak English well and I find it difficult to understand at times. Sorry again for my ignorance. --[[User:Brendon|Brendon]] 8.35, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

== yukushi wisdom ==
Thanks for your help. Actually, since I don't edit much in Bulbapedia, I was considering canceling my account. That's why I was editing. I didn't realise that I was doing it in my fake name lol but anyways thaks for everything. {{SUBST:User:Uxie wisdom/sig}} 23:57, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
:Accounts can't be canceled, unfortunately. Just go away and never come back :P If you want those subpages you blanked deleted, I can handle that for you. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:07, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

== Slight problem ==

Well, it's not really a problem but, Trombony, I might need an option of no image (in which cse we might wanna colspan it). See [[Cissy]] to get what I mean. Many thanks. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 00:23, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
:It shouldn't be too hard to get an image. I'll dig around, watch the episode and get good screenshots. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:58, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
::Yes, of course we can get the image. But the template is gonna be in a much wider use, and we're gonna have a lot of similar cases... But yeah, it's not too bad, just leaves some whitespace. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 10:21, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
::Well I see that that's already fixed, but a few other things (sorry I'm being difficult, but I demand perfection :)), when you get the time: first, there's the subject of nicknamed Pokémon, like [[Ritchie]]'s. I don't want the image caption to read "Ritchie's Sparky", I want it to read "Sparky", and the same for the main article link.
::Second: Apparently I need the number of "="s on the section headers to be changeable. In most articles it should be the way you did it, but in some I need it to be one level lower.
::Last but not least - check what happens if someone clicks the "edit" link in one of the sections... Is that supposed to be like that? --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 11:25, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
::: *clicks edit* woah! Yeah, not good. We can fix that with a NOEDITSECTION magicword. We can set the image to default as noimage; although imageneeded may be better than a white gap. I'll add an optional parameter such as {{{nick}}}, which should hopefully override the current hovercaption formatting. There can also be optional parameters for lower headings. Can you show me an example of where that would be in place? It won't help the construction of the template; I'm just curious. :P
:::You probably didn't understand a word of that. Probably because I made up most of the terminology. Lol. I doubt I'll catch you on AIM this weekend so I'll either work through it when I have time, or catch up with you later. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:29, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
::::Yeah, the reason I'm writing to you here is because we keep missing each other on AIM lately, and I figured it's best to let you know... So, here we go:
::::# The way you just canceled the section headers is no good. The reason I wanted section headers is because [[Casey's Elekid]], [[Drew's Absol]], etc, redirect to that specific Pokémon in the template. Get it? So put back the sectionheaders with that nice magicword of yours, please.
::::# Seems like {{u|Sol}} took care of the image thing for now.
::::# The {{{nick}}} parameter sounds great. Do it.
::::# Lower heading would come in case that the character exists in more than one media, AND has Pokémon not on hand. Why? Because then the headings go: <nowiki>==In the anime==, ===Pokémon===, ====On hand====,</nowiki> and just THEN the Pokémon should be. {{Gary}} is the best example I can think of right now.
::::So you see Trombodude, you're underestimating my comprehension skills. I understand you kiwi wiki terminology just fine. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 12:27, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::The problem with the magicword, I later realised, is that it will cancel all section headers for the entire page. I think I may have an idea for the headings, too. I'll experiment, and get back to you later in the week. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:23, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::Believe it or not Tromizard, but I actually managed to code everything myself ^^; so, no worries. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 21:58, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

== HGSS ==

* Can you add something to the [[Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver|HGSS]] page saying something about the game containing both leafy trees and autumn trees? --[[User:swampert_rox|Swampert]] [[Swampert (Pokémon)|=]] [[User talk:Swampert_rox|awesome]] ([[User:PhoenixGraphix#{{ucfirst:Daily (bleh)}}|bl]][[Special:Random|eh]]) 19:28, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

== Redirects ==

Please be a bit more careful when trying to turn articles into redirects. I had to restore the article on [[Camerupt Point]] you had changed into a redirect because you made it redirect to Camerupt Point, hence causing an infinite redirect loop. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 23:12, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
:Whoops; it was meant to go to [[Camerupt Mountain]]. Confuzzling :( —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:14, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

== Pokémon Black Market ==

If the article was full of speculation and all that, then slap a cleanup tag on it instead of deleting it! The Pokémon Black Market is a factual part of the Pokémon universe and thus is worthy of its own article. Could you restore it, please? [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 23:28, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
:They'd be nothing left if all the speculation was removed. All you'd have left to say would be "The Pokémon black market is a black market for Pokémon which was talked about in DPxyz." I don't consider that to be article-worthy. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:29, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
::There's also the fact about Snorunt being worth top dollar on it. Besides, it's not like the speculation in question was baseless. If Glalie was worth as much as or more than Snorunt on the market, the hunter would've just sold his own Glalie, rather than going to the trouble of snatching Snorunt. If Carnivine, Yanmega, Pikachu, Chimchar, or Buneary were worth as much as or more than Snorunt, then the hunter would've tried to take them as well. If anything, that could be confined to a trivia section. Plus, there's [[Dustox Flower Field|much worse]] in the way of stubs. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 23:36, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
:::I didn't say it wasn't baseless; in fact I think they are perfectly reasonable assumptions. However, they remain just that. Perhaps the hunter hadn't realised that he could have sold Glalie, or perhaps he was sentimentally attached to it, or perhaps he just got a thrill from stealing Pokémon. These things are as unknown as the conclusions you have jumped to. If the information about Snorunt isn't mentioned on {{p|Snorunt|this page}} I'd suggest putting them there.
:::And yes, there are millions of stubs out there, and we are doing our best to clean them up (hence "featured stub" on the main page). It'd be great if you could give us a hand. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:40, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
::::It's not that I wouldn't love to, it's half the time I find a stub, I usually don't know too much information what that can be added to it. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 23:49, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
== Talk archive image ==
See what's in <nowiki></nowiki>'s. Just thought it might be easier for ya.--'''[[User:Immewnity|''Mew'']] [[User talk:Immewnity|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|Immewnity]]''' was here at 01:34, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
:Amazing. No more pretend transparent! Cheers. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:03, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

== Edit again ==

Sorry, but I missed something with that change in {{template|bulbanews}}. See [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Bulbanews&curid=78999&diff=815279&oldid=815276 this]. Thanks. [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 02:16, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
:Done. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:41, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

== Thank you ==

Thanks for blocking I am Missingno. I annoys me so much when people mess up pages, especially an entire page. Anyway, thanks for putting a stop to the vandalism. --[[User:RiverAura|*River*]] [[User_Talk:RiverAura|*Aura*]] 20:52, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
:That's ok. I hadn't planned to pop in today, but I'm glad I did. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:53, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
::I would also like to extend my gratitude for quick action. He also touched both of our userpages. If you want, you can clear my history of the vandalism. Thanks again. By the way, the line I put for "Get off this wiki!" is a pun of Steve Wilkos telling bad guests "Get off my stage!" Just a thought. --[[User:Rockersk08|rock]][[User talk:Rockersk08|ersk]][[Special:Contributions/Rockersk08|08]] 20:56, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Both done. Thanks to all involved. Now, move along, folks. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:02, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
:::: I forgot to mention {{p|Pikachu}} Sorry about that. --[[User:Rockersk08|rock]][[User talk:Rockersk08|ersk]][[Special:Contributions/Rockersk08|08]] 21:04, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

== Trom old boy, ==

How do you set the size of the table of contents? Places like {{m|Double-Edge}} are getting a bit out of hand.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 03:01, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
:I don't know if it's possible to do that. You can set your preferences up, however, to autohide all TOCs. It's under Misc. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:05, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
::Oh, yours seemed squished (maybe its just your big purple box). Should I just not write "Gale of Darkness" then?--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 03:07, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Oh, yeah, it's just been squished. I guess you could put it into an invisible table and set the width there... but that'll just make extend downwards further, which would be worse, IMO. Don't abbreviate the game name too far. Aside from the fact that it takes up my whole screen, there's no huge problem. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:10, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
::::PK, just realized I can take out "Pokémon" #2 :D.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 03:11, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

== Chuck Norris ==

Username similar, just swapped the first few letters...how about it? Remove or keep? [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 03:20, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
:Give him a chance, probably just a coinicidence; who wouldn't want to be named after the world's greatest human being?--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 03:22, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
::I heard MediaWiki blocking powers don't work on Chuck Norris. IDK about his fanboys, so let's leave him for now. Don't want to break the server or anything. Chances are he won't do anything. If he does, we can jump him then. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:23, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
::: You guys wouldn't be talking about me, would you? Considering that ht14 posted about 12 minutes after I joined, I would say that's likely. Well, if you are talking about me, don't worry, I'm not a n00b, all I want to do is give back to the website which has helped me so much when playing through the Pokémon games. I'm not new to Wikis either; I'm a member on Wikipedia, and I've even almost entirely rewritten an article there ({{wp|Whirled}}), and edited a few others. [[User:Nuck Chorris|Nuck Chorris]] 04:27, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

::::I don't see a problem. Use your own judgement on this one, trom, since it's on your TP, but it's clearly not an ''impersonation''. --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 04:30, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::Impersonating {{u|Chuck Norris}}? Or {{wp|Chuck Norris}} himself? Is {{u|Chuck Norris}} a high-standing member? If so, I apologize for any apparent impersonation, all I did was I checked to see if I'd already registered here by looking for usernames beginning with "Nuck". Also, Trom, I can say from experience that the banhammer works on me, considering I have felt its wrath on Kingdom of Loathing. Don't worry, it was for taking a controversial debate too far. I doubt the banhammer would work on Chuck Norris himself, though. Even if it did, I woudn't want to try it on him. He'd probably be standing right behind you, in the middle of roundhousing you, even before the banhammer was swung. WATCH OUT FOR HIM!!!! —– [[User:Nuck Chorris|Nuck Chorris]] ([[User talk:Nuck Chorris|talk]]) 05:11, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

::::::The real one. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 05:21, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::I live in fear of him every day. Speaking of which, he's right behind me right now! Holy S***!!! Oh, wait... thats just the back of my chair. Nevermind... False alarm... Anyways, I've got more maps to work on now, so carry on without me. —– [[User:Nuck Chorris|Nuck Chorris]] ([[User talk:Nuck Chorris|talk]]) 05:41, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

== Why? ==

Do you removed the image of Twinleaf Town from Platinum.[[User:Mario136|Mario136]] 18:51, 30 July,2009 (UTC)
:Despite the fact that it's from the latest game, it was of a lower quality and had giant arrows on it. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 19:46, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

== Equivalent to Wikipedia's {{wp|Template:Superseded-Image}}? ==

Trom – since you were the one who welcomed me, and you seem to be fairly active and helpful – do you know if Bulbapedia has an equivalent to Wikipedia's {{wp|Template:Superseded-Image}}? I uploaded a higher-quality map for [[Eterna Forest]] ([[a:Image:EternaForest.png]]), but the old one still exists (Image:Eterna Forest.png). On Wikipedia, I know you'd just tag the old image with {{wp|Template:Superseded-Image}}, but as I can't find that or something similar on Bulbapedia or Bulbagarden Archives, I don't know what to do. Any ideas? [[User:Nuck Chorris|Nuck Chorris]] 04:33, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
:Nah, you'd just mark it for deletion and say in the edit summary that you uploaded a better one. Which image is this? I'll get it for you.--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[User talk:RexRacer|Racer''']] 04:35, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
::Haha, just saw you linked it.--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[User talk:RexRacer|Racer''']] 04:36, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
::: Thanks! I assume I use <nowiki>{{delete}}</nowiki> to mark it for deletion, right? —– [[User:Nuck Chorris|Nuck Chorris]] ([[User talk:Nuck Chorris|talk]]) 05:02, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Yep.--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[User talk:RexRacer|Racer''']] 05:41, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

== Code help ==

Since you've already been so helpful in reducing my signature to nothing more that purple writing, I should ask how you get a coloured background on your userpage :P thanks in advance --[[User:Dragon Master|'''Dragon]]''' [[User talk:Dragon Master|'''Master]]''' 12:43, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
:[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Dragon_Master&diff=prev&oldid=822131 Replied] on your talk page. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:15, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

== Re:Signature ==
thanks! it works now!--[[User:Rotom45|Rotom]][[User Talk:Rotom45|Let me get the lawnmower!]] 01:59, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
:[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Rotom45&diff=prev&oldid=822132 Replied] on your talk page. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:15, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

dont worry. i'll follow Bulbapedia's rules and respect it's policy!--[[User:Rotom45|Rotom]][[User Talk:Rotom45|Let me get the lawnmower!]] 02:16, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

== Idea ==

Since I'm not very good at coding, I thought I could give you an idea; the big list of moves on the [[List of moves|List of moves article]] could possibly be reconstructed on the [[Contest category| Contest category article]], but with only move name and contest type (without power, accuracy, fughting type, etc.) Do you think that is a good idea and would you be able to do that/find someone to do that? If not I can have a go, but as I say, I'm not very knowledgable in that area. Thanks --[[User:Dragon Master|'''Dragon]]'''[[User talk:Dragon Master|'''Master]]''' 09:11, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
:I've been working on compiling a list similar to the one near the bottom of, say {{t|Rock|this page}}, for contests. It's largely incomplete and in [[User:{{BASEPAGENAME}}/Hell|a sandbox]]. This is largely a copy-and-paste job from the moves' individual articles designed to tidy up articles like [[Cool Contest]], so feel free to chip in if you want. I haven't touched it for about half a year... —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 11:44, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

== Undoing my changes. ==

I was wondering why some Pokémon pages auto-forward, and some don't. Help?
--[[User:FromCrimsonToWool|FromCrimsonToWool]] 03:07, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:We call it ''redirecting''. If a Pokémon exists in another media, typically the anime (e.g. [[Ash's Pikachu]]) or manga (e.g. [[Poochyena (CCP)]]), the page doesn't redirect and serves as a ''disambiguation''. This is done because if someone searches for, say, Bulbasaur, they may be looking for {{OP|Ash|Bulbasaur}}, {{OP|May|Bulbasaur}}, [[Saur|one from the manga]], or simply the {{p|Bulbasaur|species}}. Think of it as kind of a signpost. Not all Pokémon are special enough though (e.g. [[Paras]]), so they don't have the disambiguation page as searchers will clearly be looking for the article about the species. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:13, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Okay, so how, and thus where, do we all draw the line? Also, why not just include a link at the top of the pokémon page for something like that?--[[User:FromCrimsonToWool|FromCrimsonToWool]] 03:30, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:Generally if a Trainer's Pokémon has an article, the Pokémon page gets disambiguated. This is our system, and this is how it's worked for a couple of years. There was a poll about this less than two years ago, when the users had the chance to vote about this. For [[Bulbapedia talk:Disambiguation poll|many reasons]], this is what we came up with. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:38, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
::That is an argument that has gone on since the beginning. It was decided that changing it would upset more people than it does keeping it the same. It would also make soooo many things much harder. It is something that is set in stone, and will never change. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 03:38, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
Hokay. Thanks. I just kind of figured that there would have been more support for it to be the other way around, as in more game centric.--[[User:FromCrimsonToWool|FromCrimsonToWool]] 03:51, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

== Brendan ==

Holy crap man... you just helped more than you know, doing those party templates. I was gonna try to get them done in the next few days, and you just made my life easier. I know that you didn't make any mistakes other than that one getting the Pokémon mixed up, but I'm gonna go over it once more tomorrow just for yucks. Seriously though, thanks. x-x '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 04:11, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:If there was something wrong, it'll have been wrong on May's page too. It was a direct copy-paste. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 05:25, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

::Crappit. *checks May* Yeah... oh well. Fixed now. Still, thanks for that. Oops. And I forgot, Brendan has a slightly different team than May. I'll change that too... '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 19:00, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:::Different? Really? How odd. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:06, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

::::Don't worry about it. I shoulda caught it last night, but I had just gotten home from the airport a few hours earlier. That's my fault, not yours. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 20:23, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

== ABC ==

Sorry about all this constantly running-ideas-by-you thing, but I just dont yet feel its my place to go changing Bulbapedia without guidance. Anyway, do you think the list on [[List of game characters|this page]] should be alphebatised? If so, let me know on [[User talk:Dragon Master| my talk page]] and I'll get right on to it...Thanks--[[User:Dragon Master|'''Dragon]]'''[[User talk:Dragon Master|'''Master]]''' 07:21, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:That's already. I enjoy being able to help. The answer is "Nope". It appears to be on an importance-first basis. It's fine as is. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:05, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

::I've got one, mostly for my education. Would this question have been better placed on the Talk tab of said page?--[[User:FromCrimsonToWool|FromCrimsonToWool]] 10:15, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

:::Well, yeah, if you wanna get all literal on me... :P --[[User:Dragon Master|'''Dragon]]'''[[User talk:Dragon Master|'''Master]]''' 12:09, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Actually, now I look and think about it, the more it seems like the list is in order of which comes first and when you meet them etc. --[[User:Dragon Master|'''Dragon]]'''[[User talk:Dragon Master|'''Master]]''' 12:10, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::FCTW: That's the way talk pages are meant to function. However, an article that obscure may not get noticed. I personally have no problem with people bringing things up on my talk page. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:06, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::Got it, thank you. {{unsigned|FromCrimsonToWool}}

==Shinx Comment==
I was trying to see if anyone thought it was interesting enough to put in trivia, not chatting it up. --[[User:Crystal_Shards|'''Crystal Shards''']] 16:52, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:Either way, X looks like Y trivia is an opinion. That kind of thing isn't allowed, because two people may see things differently. We try and be objective. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:06, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
::Could have explained that earlier instead of just taking it out. --[[User:Crystal_Shards|'''Crystal Shards''']] 22:42, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:::That's how things get done here. Unacceptable comments are removed, to prevent people abusing the talk page for discussion about the subject of the article, rather than its content. This is all explained in that lovely green welcome on the top of your usertalk page. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:58, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Yeah I read that; thanks anyway. Too bad we just had a different definition of "unacceptable" at that point in time. --[[User:Crystal_Shards|'''Crystal Shards''']] 01:35, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

== Template ==

I've created a template {{template|HeldItems}}. I need work on a parser, the Gen I one. After that, we can all insert the stuff accordingly. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 21:02, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
:Once that's done, I'll organize the held items according to items (category). [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 21:03, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
::Final thing. I also need another section for Pokemon with 2 possible held items. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 21:05, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
:::Sorry Trombonator, I couldn't sleep and felt the need to handle this one (with a little help from {{u|TTEchidna|a certain echidna}}). {{unsigned|MisterE13}}
::::Sigh... clearly you guys totally missed the fact that I'd already created one... template:held item... —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:54, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::Ironic how I even posted on that template talk page... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 01:49, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::And in its section on my third talk archive. Seeing as it's apparently nicer, I've unprotected it to allow you to make any changes you wish. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:51, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Cool....Gen II has weird percentages though...8%...I dunno how to handle that... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 01:53, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Are they standard, or different per Pokémon? If they are the same we can have it set up to use the tt template. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:54, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Seems to be different unfortunately...Sacred Ash/Leftovers for instance for Ho-oh/Snorlax. 100%. Speaking of which...Numel and Vulpix are 100% also...so scratch that. That method isn't that great... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 01:59, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::There is a clause in there for 100%. Or, at least, I had one drafted. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:00, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:Oh. Did you see the ones where I used the template? As of now though, just protect it. I'm not the greatest with tables... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 02:02, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::I've actually been doing some work on ht's. Unfotunately, I think third versions can be different than the other two. Should we seperate?--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 02:03, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:::Umm...not only that...Elekid and Magby...though minor problem. More major issue may be images and redirects...Stardust... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 02:05, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Images should all have standard filenames. If you spot any more that aren't, let me know. The D/P mismatch could potentially be solved with a footer. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:12, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::Right...Nugget? Also...berries...most of the held items are berries. With the format right now...t's not linking to it... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 02:15, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::Yes, nuggets and berries are now named correctly. The correct filename is File:Bag Name Sprite.png. I like what MisterE13 did with the itemtype. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:19, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Sorry and thanks...Soft Sand...Poison Barb...type-enhancing items...all right. Just protect it...I can't take this right now... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 02:20, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::::They got done a while ago. I've decided to leave it open. MisterE or tc may want to play. If anyone else wants to take a stab, be my guest. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:23, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:Right. One last thing. Can you categorize the Template:Held item/100 as {{cat|Pokémon with wild held items}}. Thanks for everything. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 02:28, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::Way ahead of you there. :P —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:29, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:::XD Problem...as I was saying before...Sentret...Berry leads to Berries, which is what we're not talking about here... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 02:32, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Last thing. GSC didn't have sprites... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 02:33, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::Just finished fixing. Actually, I'm doing a lot of work on it right now so you might want to wait a bit before asking fo anything else :).--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 02:41, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::OK. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 02:44, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::: *hopes it's not too late* Shards. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 03:09, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Yellow and Red are fine but the others were uploaded in .gif format. If you can fix that (you were the original uploader, after all), tag the old ones with {{template|delete}} and replace the links. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:11, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::Done. So it'll be <nowiki>[[Image:Bag_<color>_Shard_Sprite.png]]</nowiki>. Unless you want to move it and make it simpler that is... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 03:21, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
I've started a three step plan I conceived last night to perfect this template. I just need to know if there are any version-exclusives other than the Light Ball in Gen I, the Soul Dew in Gen III, and the Magmarizer/Electrizer in Gen IV? This would include any item with different rates or found on a different Pokémon.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 18:34, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
::I would think that's it. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 18:51, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
:::It's done you know, does anyone need a walkthrough?--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 02:46, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
::::I can probably figure it out. If you haven't, though, you should post it noincluded on the template page so when we are dead and gone and the fourteenth generation is being released, the Bulbapedians of the future can figure it out. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:14, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::LOL to that. If the world lasts that long anyway... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 19:38, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

== News Page discussion ==

Hey trom, I made a comment here (http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Many_features_to_return_to_HeartGold,_SoulSilver) about the latest news from CoroCoro magazine when you get a chance. Provided a bit of translation to clear up any speculation/confusion. :)

Also, how the hell do you sign comments on here. :| {{unsigned|Gimmetokyo}}

:Use <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. Either type them, or use the thing under the text box. Both of them work. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 18:39, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

== I am sorry! ==

I won't do it again. But I get back soon.--[[User:Pokelover195|Pokelover195]] 20:38, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
:{{wp|Little Britain|Computer says no}}. You abused our trust. You have to earn it back. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:39, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
Ok. I agree. --[[User:Pokelover195|Pokelover195]] 23:04, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

But how can I earn it back? --[[User:Pokelover195|Pokelover195]] 19:16, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
:You need to edit the articles. Any page that doesn't have a prefix in front of it, like {{p|Pikachu|this one}}, [[Wiki Berry|this one]], [[Route 103|this one]] or [[Special:Random|this one]]. Start with what you know, and go from there. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:04, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

== Hey Trom! ==

Did you have a sandbox. or not on your userpage. Because I want to check out user's Sandbox. --[[User:Pokelover195|Pokelover195]] 21:08, 9 August 2009 (UTC)-
:Nope. To be honest, you don't need one; you are currently unable to edit any pages in the userspace (that is to say, any page prefixed by <code>User:</code>). In any regard, a sandbox is just a testing area. People have different things in them depending on what they are working on. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:12, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

== Random thing ==

For berries on the actual berries page, should we leave it the way it is or use sprites from [http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/rsberryspr.html here]? It's for consistency with the e-Reader berries. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 03:59, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:Ask the {{u|RexRacer|Project Leader}}. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 09:19, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

==*space reserved for Arceus99*==
Hey Dark Lord i didn't delete ur page or anything it must have been my younger brother he seems to hack into my account easily
anyway i apologize -Arceus99
:guys belive me i dint edit ur page my brothers a computer geek
Arceus99
::I suggest you get a password he can't guess then. If we see you removing stuff again, the account will be blocked, regardless of who did it. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:13, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

ok-arceus99

== Arceus and the Jewel of Life ==

Just because you're a sysop doesn't mean you can disregard the rules and revert confirmed and relevant edits. --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 22:02, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:I haven't disregarded any rules. The page was undergoing an edit war, and as per our procedures it has been left at its original state. As you are no doubt aware there is a discussion on the talk page. This was going on before you jumped in, and is still now. The rename will take place once an outcome has been established. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:37, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

== Cause you getting on AIM would be pointless... ==

If we tie again, does this mean I can revert you? Or can't I since you're basically above me in the power rank? Oh, and I need to ask you something as well. Can you roundy-ify the CharacterInfoBox stuff please? There's a lot to it and you're the only one who I'd ask to do it because I like making you work and I can't really touch the stuff, and cause I don't know how to round-ify stuff...--[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 01:32, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
:You're right, it would be. You can revert if you want to. I thought about it, but didn't want to fill up the newbie's inbox. What kind of color scheme you looking at? —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:38, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
::Well, I was actually kinda particular for a categorization thing going. Like 4 colors, one for each generation, which also categorizes them by the color into generation, ie Mr. Stone having a red color and having all red color ones categorized into Gen 3 characters. However, if it isn't possible to do that, just make them all how they were and just roundy-ify them, please. :D. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 01:43, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
:::We can do that! Just name the color schemes. The only problem atm is that anime and manga use the same template. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:45, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Hm...Well, that might be a problem...Uh...if anything I'd like them of course to be "color name" color light, but I'd go with yellow, crystal, emerald and platinum perhaps for respective generational debut...If not, tell me which ones would be a problem...--[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 01:56, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

== Pokemon Diamond ==

What!? You didnt complete the national dex in diamond!? I have pearl,diamond,and platinum and i completed the pokedex without transfering! I am a 10 year old boy and ur 18!-Arceus99
:Anyone else like to point out that I'm a failure in life, or are we done here? —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:14, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

== Apricorn Shaker ==

Could you delete it from [[List of key items in Generation IV]]? It's confirmed that it is NOT an item, but rather an overworld tool like Berry Blender or Poffin Mixer. Having it listed as item is completely irrelevant. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 19:35, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
:Cheers, Maxim. If it hasn't been taken off already I'll get it now. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:14, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

sorry

== Apricorn Table ==

Hello Trom. I fixed the table as you asked, fixed the border, labeled the table like the old one, and added the Japanese Apricorn names. The only thing I did not do was redo the image labels as TTE said,"Remove the image links and die...". So if you want them changed as someone else did to the other table (I do not know if it was authorized) so I just left them. If you need anything else done to it just ask. ([[Talk:Apricorn|Table still on talk page]]) also I will not replace the table until you tell me to, or you can just do it. –[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 19:46, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
:Thanks for your effort, Master K. I see someone did have a deathwish, so I've put it on the page. Again, thanks. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:14, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
::No problem at all. Thanks for the suggestions. –[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 23:12, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

== Something I want you to check out... ==

Yo Tromski, I know you got about a gazillion stuff to do already (including the {{{nick}}} parameter to our lovely template), but I need you to take a look at [[User:ElectAbuzzzz/Sandbox|this]]. I did my best so far but I'll need help with the moves tables. If you can, go on AIM. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 22:42, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

==Proposition==
What do you think about deleting the users who haven't made any contributions? Would that make a difference of the size of Bulbapedia? At least we can warn them to contribute or be blocked. I took a look at the new users since 2006 and saw that most didn't make contributions... then I saw BULBABOT's contributions and stopped soon after it. Would this make any difference whatsoever? Or should we keep them all to show how many users we have? Just a thought, but think about it. [[User:Pyles|Pyles]] 23:27, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
:Accounts can't be deleted. End of story. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:28, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
::Really? no acceptions? seems kind of a waste of space. [[User:Pyles|Pyles]] 23:31, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
:::People create accounts for various reasons. Some people register to secure their wellknown username from other sites to prevent people impersonating them. Some people register to avoid seeing the ads while they browse. Some people register to create fake pages and disrupt the creation of the encyclopedia. Everyone has different intentions for signing up, and with the exception of <s>dickheads</s> vandals, we shouldn't penalize anyone. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:35, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Thanks for clearing up my ignorance of other stuff on Bulbapedia. I didn't even think of some of those things. [[User:Pyles|Pyles]] 23:37, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

==Thanks==
I am AuraGaurdian. Thanks for your advice, Trom. I'll remember to leave a timestamp from now on.--[[User:AuraGaurdian|AuraGaurdian]] 23:54, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

==AIM==
I'm on, now--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 09:27, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
:-- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 01:22, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

==Friend Code==

Hey darklord do u have wifi on diamond i thought we could do a wifi battle using my platinum and ur diamond-Arceus99★☆★♪
:Nope. I don't. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:01, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Oh its ok!-Arceus99

== Thanks for the "In other languages" part ==

I forgot to add the lines so thanks.--[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight Blue]] 03:52, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

==Solidad==
hey man just wondering why you deleted my page on solidad's slowbro everything on there was true slowbro appeared in more than 1 episode it was in three i would say slowbro and evan lapras could be said to be solidads signiture pokemon so i dont see why her pokemon can't have a page
[[User:solidadrox|'''solidadrox''']][[User talk:solidadrox|'''''']][[Special:Contributions/solidadrox|'''''']]
:This has been explained on your talk page, but I'll put it here anyway. Bulbapedia has devloped a notability policy to discourage short low-quality articles. You probably posted here before you saw what Kenji-girl wrote on your talk page, but if you follow the link she provided you'll see the table listing for [[Drew]]'s Pokémon that haven't done enough. See, it doesn't come down to the number of appearances, or the number of battles they won. Plot and character devlopment are very important here. I hope I've made this clear. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:01, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

== I'm Sorry! ==

I should've known. Next time I will make sure to not use names like "you". That means I'll use "the player" then.
--[[User:Naoy5|Naoy5]] 17:48, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
:Nothing to be sorry about. It's just a learning curve. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:56, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

== What are we to make of these? ==

{{ms|351S}}{{ms|351R}}{{ms|351H}} Although rather well made, they're certainly unofficial. They would go well in certain tables though.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 09:09, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
:If you haven't done so already, ask the Echidna. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 19:48, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
::His page is protected. That's why I came here.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 20:59, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

Thanks for fixing up my mistakes! The TRsRockin page is still a work-in progress. I posted what i had because i had to get off the computer, and it was MOSTLY done. Lol. I'll be adding to it sometime tomorrow. :3 Thanks for fixing it up for me. [[User:CherryParanoia|CherryParanoia]] 18:06, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

== New user archiving already... ==

Hey Trom I was floating around and found that a new user, [[User:Thatguywiththecodes|Thatguywiththecodes]], already archived there talk page: [[User_talk:Thatguywiththecodes/Archive_1|Archived stuff]]. Additionally they removed the welcome message when they have already been told to leave it... If you need any assistance just let me know. ;) -[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 01:58, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
:i have "taken care" of this issue. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 02:09, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
::Thanks Magnedeth. –[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 02:54, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
:::I threw away my welcome as soon as I could. Although, that was back when it was a wall of text. And a small wall of that. I like what you did there, Mister Deth :D —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 05:04, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

== Hi, about talk page archiving. ==

When do I know when it is time to archive my page? Oh do you know how to make one of those HP bars for a talk page? I'm trying to figure it out but had no luck.--[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight Blue]] 02:16, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
:Ask TTE or someone. As for Archiving, it is the user choice to Archive his/her talkpage.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 02:59, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
::Some users archive when they've received enough hate mail to feel uncomfortable when they look at it. Some users archive at a particular size. I archive every three months. I don't care how big it gets, that's when it happens. It really is up to you. To make a talk page bar, go to someone else's page, steal their code, work out what it does (in SHOW PREVIEW mode so we don't see you screwing around and think you're a genius on the first save), and edit to suit your own style. That's the best way to figure out how some of the complicated wikimarkup works. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 05:04, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

== Talk page ==

Hello Trom, do you mind if I use a similar table to your for my talk page. I will give you credit, and it will be quite a bit different. –[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 21:09, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
:Go for your life. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:11, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
::Thanks. That kinda sounds bad though :O –[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 21:18, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
:::Done with it if you want to take a look at my talkpage. Thanks again Trom! –[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 22:05, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

==Space reserved for WeedleMaster==
Thanks!

I haven't been here long so I will try to work on my spelling.

[[User: WeedleMaster]]
:You can sign properly, too, by typing <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> at the end of each comment. This automatically puts your name and a timestamp at the end of the comment, and is the correct way to sign on any wiki. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:13, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Sweet!

[[User:WeedleMaster|WeedleMaster]] 21:51, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

== Dude you got issues. ==

I can reply to a message that are nearly 1 year old if i want to.So why go out of your way to tell me otherwise.Im still having trouble with viewing the photo's on the indigo league episode page.So i reported to the talk page to inform others that i too have had problems with viewing photos on that page.--[[User:Solidstate|Solid!]] 10:46, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
:Damn straight I have issues. I'm just telling you that the discussions there are quite often out of date. If you're having issues too you could either wait three years so I can finish my Psychology degree, or start a new section at the bottom of the page where you're more likely to get a relevant reply. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:48, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
::Beside, it's kinda stupid to reply to an out of date conversation when the problem has either been resolved or forgotten.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 10:51, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
Appolgy acepted Trom.--[[User:Solidstate|Solid!]] 12:56, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
:It isn't an apology if you edit my comment to put it in. The edit history tells all, Solid. Let that be a lesson to you. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:49, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

== Thanks for telling me how to sign! ==

lol, I'm not sure if this is the right page for messages or whatever...

Sorry if my use of phrases like, "Wtf" are against the rules. I just couldn't stand anymore seeing misleading information on this site. [[User:Chaos Rush|Chaos Rush]] 19:52, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
:Yep, messages go here. A lot of people here actually reply on their own talk pages when people leave them messages (this helps keep the conversation together), but it's up to you. There isn't anything wrong with saying "wtf". If you haven't read our {{bp|code of conduct}}, it pretty much describes how you ought to interact with other editors. You're doing a great job so far. Keep it up! —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:54, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Hey, I'd like to ask another question: I tried uploading the correct Platinum Mareep sprite (179.png), however on Mareep's page, the D/P sprite is still displayed under "Platinum Sprites". So then I uploaded a Spr_4p_179.png, but the sprite still displayed is the D/P sprite under "Platinum Sprites". Do you know how to fix that? (Oh, and about that blanked page, that was an accident, sorry, I was trying to fix the sprite)[[User:Chaos Rush|Chaos Rush]] 22:14, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
:It isn't automatic. The data has to be transferred from one server to another. Just give it a bit of time. And, yes, the upload did work the first time. Sometimes the old data is 'cached' and the new image doesn't display. About blanking the page... well, that was bad no matter what you were trying to do. At least replacing it with a description of what the image was would have sufficed. Now that you have your Archives Welcome things should hopefully be easier for you. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:17, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

== Team Rocket Sprite ==
I just wanted to leave a message thanking you for replacing the sprite on my Usertag. No matter how hard I looked around Bulbapedia I just couldn't find that Team Rocket sprite, so thanks! [[User:ASecondOpinion1501|ASecondOpinion1501]] 23:52, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
:No problem. If you ever are looking for Trainer Class sprites, we have an article on every [[:Category:Trainer classes|Trainer Class]]. As far as I'm aware, all our sprites are complete there. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:54, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
:: Well, I feel pretty stupid now. I looked down that list and managed to completely skip the Team Rocket Grunt link. Oh well, I suppose I'll just have to look more carefully next time ;) Thanks again! [[User:ASecondOpinion1501|ASecondOpinion1501]] 00:00, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

== Eevee Pokédex ==

Trom, just to let you know all of the Eevee Pokédex URL are outdated (on the collapsible menu under external links on the Pokémon info box). It looks like all the URL just got changed from the National Dex number to the Pokémons name. (ie. from pokemon/001 to pokemon/bulbasaur)

Is there someway we can fix this? –'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 21:41, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
:While there was nothing wrong with the redirects from ndex to the name (apart from some potential server stress at Veekun's end) I've updated the link generating process. It should be fine now. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:35, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
::Thanks for doing that Trom. –'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 23:59, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

== *shoots Trom* ==

On TCG Trivia, there isn't a whatchcallit (*) if there's just one piece of it. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 03:08, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

== HELP ==

I created a Frontier parser, but I need to add that to the re1, se1, and e1 parser, similar to what was done with the Lati@s parser. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 15:03, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
:OK, ht kinda freaked out on everyone here but you and I seem to have fixed it. What I need to know is if you think you can add a series of multi-form subtemplates I made a while ago to {{Template|Side game}}. They're all posted on the talk page (though I may have missed something) also, be warned, they may not work 100% because I was pretty inexperienced when I made them.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 01:57, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
::Verify that they work then make me a sandbox to copy. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:12, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
:::It's in my sandbox. Some minor alignment issues seem to have popped up but I was never very good with that (and it could just be my IE).--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 22:33, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
::::Done. Don't forget our nonverbal unwritten contract. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:19, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

== Kiaora ==

Hi, i was wondering if you could help with updating the party template on my user page, I tried after the home page told me to but I couldn't figure it out. Any help would be appreciated.''[[User:Sui|'''Sui''']][[User talk:Sui|'''Topaz''']]'' 22:30, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
:Here's the deal. You've been editing your userspace an awful lot in the short time you've been here. How about editing ten different articles before I update your template. Bulbapedia isn't a social site - it's an encyclopedia, and we need your help to complete it. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:21, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
::Deal''[[User:Sui|'''Sui''']][[User talk:Sui|'''Topaz''']]'' 04:53, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

== Routes 48, 49 ==

Sorry, I haven't seen a source dictating these as their names. Can you supply this? It may turn out that they have descriptive names like the Sevii Islands routes. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:11, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

: Here are two pictures I just took. [commented out coz they're huge :D]

[[User:MARXOR|MARXOR]] 01:40, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

:Cheers. About five minutes after I asked you, it was mentioned on some of the news sites that are going hardcore over this. We'll get articles written up in time, most likely after we get any decent kind of substantial information. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 05:44, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

==Thanks==
Thanks for handling the last part of the new Johto Dex numbers for me and I added that trivia piece liked you asked but only on the Legendary Beasts page which is best suited for it. But I tell you it while it was a long and tiring process I made sure not to make any mistakes so there is no need for further edits on those pages. But anyway check out the new trivia piece and make your own changes if you need to. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 19:44, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
:Thanks again for doing that for us. I'd agree that the Legendary Beasts article is the best. Having triplicate trivia is kind of boring, and it relates to all three of them. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 19:47, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

== Sprite deleting ==

I'm sorry to bother you, but could you delete [a really sucky jpg (comment edited by trom coz he deleted the sucky jpg)]? I updated his page's sprite for a png. -- [[User:RikkiKitsune|R<s>ikki</s>]][[User talk:RikkiKitsune|Kitsune]] 21:57, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
:Yahuh. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:00, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

== A Couple of things... ==

Hi Trom! I fixed the Giovanni template to have the same colours as the Team Rocket template, you can [[User:MasterKenobi/Gym_Leaders#Pok.C3.A9mon_HeartGold_and_SoulSilver_18|find the Giovanni template here]]. Is that colour scheme look all right? If not, what colours should we use? If so, we can go ahead and use it for the admins too.

Also, I have been working on the abilities of the Gym Leaders Pokémon and a couple of other trainers. I know how to find a couple such as Falkner's Pidgey, I will use smokescreen and if it lowers the accuracy, the ability is Keen Eye if not, it is Tangled Feet. Where I become stuck is at Pokémon such as Bugsy's Scyther where the abilities are Swarm or Technician, and I do not know how to determine the ability. I may need help with a few others too. Thanks ;) –'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 17:33, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
:Colors are fine. A darker grey might be preferable, but I'm not that fussed. Finalizing moves and abilities can be done using an Action Replay. Catch the Gym Leader's Pokémon and look in the status screen. That's how we found out Cynthia's Pokémon have perfect IVs. Dirty little.... —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:20, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
::We will keep those colours then until we decide we dislike them then. Darker grey was what I was thinking too. I will work on the gym leaders Pokémon then, that is an easier method. Wow, Perfect IV's!
::[[image:BrockHGSS.gif]][[File:BrockHGSS.png]]

::Also, I wanted to ask you about the gym leader sprites. Do we want to use the moving one (gif) or non-moving one (png). I have been alternating between both by having the non-moving ones for the gym leader gym battle template and the moving one for the rematch. An example of this is on the [[User:MasterKenobi/Gym_Leaders|Gym leader template page]]. In my personal opinion some of the moving sprites move too fast such as the Brock one. Also, as a side note some of the moving ones make the party template size different. So which way should it be done? Thanks Trom. –'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 20:37, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
:::I'm not a fan of the moving sprites. They slow down my browser. Although we've used animated sprites for Pt, that Brock one is of rather poor quality. It's up to you I guess. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:44, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
::::I will just stick with the one moving, one non-moving then. –'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 21:08, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

== Can you do someting for me? ==

Could it be possible that you can protect Leaf for a while until we get things settled?--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 21:18, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
:It's fine commented out. As far as I know, no one's actually played through with Kotone so we have no confirmation of a gender inverse. It's more than likely that it's still Red, what with all the references, but just leave it hidden, ok? —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:25, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
:Alright, thanks.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 21:26, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

==Need you to do a small fix==
Thank you for merging the Battle Frontier content, however the region stuff for Sinnoh and Johto is messed up and I tried a previewed link correction but it isn't going to work so if you can could you take a crack at it. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]]
:Fixed. {{u|Sol}} did it. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:29, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
::Glad someone got to it so the only thing left is updating the Pokémon League template with the new stuff, but anyway that is all I have to say for now. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 21:33, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
:::One more issue. The caption is incorrect (either 2 images or one with the correct one). [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 21:34, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
::::Once we get a Johto map I'll see if I can set it up to alternate between them. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:36, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

== Wikipedia ==

Wied you delete wikipedia? Why does it break your haerT? Sorry I'm asking these questions, but i just made the page. (I'm friendly with this, don't worry i'm not threatening you in any way). * --[[User:Tommy-SAN|'''T☆MMY''']][[User talk:Tommy-SAN|'''SAN!''']][[Special:Contributions/Tommy-SAN|'''♂''']]
:I'm a Wikipedian at heart, but there's no room for this article on Bulbapedia. Wikipedia as a whole has nothing to do with Pokémon. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:46, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

** Okay, i understand! Sorry, I don't wanna spam your talk page. * --[[User:Tommy-SAN|'''T☆MMY''']][[User talk:Tommy-SAN|'''SAN!''']][[Special:Contributions/Tommy-SAN|'''♂''']] 3:07 PM September 14, 2009 (UTC)

==Response to userspace policy==
i did read it, and i understand. but it seems like even just sharing in game data in my userspace gets the admins telling me to stop. im not using it like a twitter or a facebook. and i would like to help contribute to the mainspace, but i simply dont know enough about pokemon to edit with confidence. to me it doesnt seem fair that i cant show people my pokemon simply because im not a pokemon guru. it seems like almost everything is covered here :/ please dont take this the wrong way, ill gladly stop editing if it will hurt me and other people. [[User:Volsak|Volsak]] 22:08, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
:There is a lot that can be done on Bulbapedia. Believe it or not, we are far from complete! There are a lot of {{cat|stubs}} here—short articles that need expanding. Have a look through the list and see if there are any articles from the games you've played. I'm sure you'll find something to do. A more general to-do list can be found on the main page. I like your userpage, by the way :D —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:12, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

== TY ==

Thanks for cleaning my edit. It was quite embarrassing to read what I actually wrote... [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 11:09, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
:Any time. It wasn't that bad, really. I've seen a lot worse. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 11:11, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

== Still online? ==

If you are, log on for a sec, I need to ask you something. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 11:23, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

== Items ==

Hello Trom. I was wondering how we wanted to have the items. Do we want them just plainly listed like on the [[Route_32#Pok.C3.A9mon_HeartGold_and_SoulSilver_2|Route 32 page]] or do we want them listed and have a description like on the [[New_Bark_Town#Items|New Bark Town page]]. So far I have been making the item list similar to the New Bark Town page, so that would be fine if we stayed like that, and on top of that it adds detail... –'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 23:37, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

== help? ==

I would like to start a article of a tv channel for Project TV and would like to start.Where would i be able to start it without actually having it online and viewable by everyone until its ready to be realeased.Thanks --[[User:Solidstate|Solid!]] 08:20, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
:Impossible. Sorry. You can do it offline in Windows Notepad or a similar program, or make it in a user subpage. To make a user subpage write ''User:Solidstate/[subpage name]'' in the searchbar, and then click "create article". I would prefer it to happen that way, but whichever method you choose is up to you. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:27, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks-Ive started a page on channels that have showed Pokemon episodes [[tv2]] and i thought since you were from New zealand also (ithink) you might be able to add to it if not it's okay.Thanks --[[User:Solidstate|Solid!]] 10:34, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
:Yeah, this is getting a big cleanup. It's eventually going to get merged into ''Pokémon in New Zealand'', but we'll keep it up for now. Thanks for starting it off. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:37, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

== Wikia ==

What's your username on Wikia? What wikis are you on, we may have the same interests (We seem to already have an interest in Pokémon)! I'm an administrator on most wikias I'm on. (DON'T THINK THIS IS SPAM) * --[[User:Tommy-SAN|'''T☆MMY''']][[User talk:Tommy-SAN|'''SAN!''']][[Special:Contributions/Tommy-SAN|'''♂''']]
:I'm "The dark lord trombonator" and I'm barely active there. I pop up now and again on pokemon.wikia to make sure that no one's stealing our content... again... —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 05:30, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

==An error to bring up==
Nice work on updating HeartGold and SoulSilver and creating a Pokémon section for that page, but I noticed of a typing error on the parenthesis for the first paragraph regarding FireRed and LeafGreen. THere are 3 present when there should be 2 or 4. Thought you should know. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 04:57, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
:Dammit... I thought I was doing good. I'll get onto that... —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 04:59, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
::Thanks, and on another quick topic I removed unconfirmed details from Metapods' page about game location. Since even on Serebii.net it is acknowledged as being unconfirmed of it not being in SoulSilver, I going to help monitor that all unconfirmed details stay off this site until they are properly verified. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 05:06, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

== Sandbox ==

How come I'm not allowed to have a sandbox? [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 07:16, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
:It's not that you aren't allowed to have a sandbox. We encourage the use of sandboxes. However, don't edit in your userspace too much because it can stress the server. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:17, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
::Well, okay, no problem there. It's just, I've barely had it a couple hours and I'm getting policy warnings or whatever. If it's a problem don't worry then, delete it and I'll find something else to do. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 07:22, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
::Not a problem. I didn't mean it as a warning, just a reminder. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:24, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

== Hey trom ==

Hey Trom, need a gallade,
----
or a darkrai, don't touch my darkrai, but still , I'm in NZ and have quite a few pokemon that you might not have. So if you need my friend code for some trading, check out my talk page!P.S: I'm not a hacker, I hate hackers, got my darkrai legit, Aug 3-Sep 13, members card: 27 dusk balls and 5 ultra balls down the drain. But it was all worth it.

Talk:Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions

2009-09-18T06:16:13Z

Minimag: /* Trade Me! */ new section

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==Previous discussion==
* [[/Archive 1|Archive 1]] (8 May 2009 - 25 June 2009)
* [[/Archive 2|Archive 2]] (25 June 2009 - 12 September 2009)

==A note to editors==
The page will be staying locked for a little bit longer. There is a lot of information to process, and if everybody tries to edit this page at once, there are going to be lots of edit conflicts. This can result in server stress, and also may prevent genuine information from being added. So just wait for a bit. If you've got something to add, doublecheck that it isn't there already and make a new section on this page. The administrators will add it to the article in time, provided it isn't baseless and has been confirmed either by our own editors playing through the games, or a number of other websites. We will unlock the page once the traffic has slowed a little. Thank you. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:42, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

== Less notable/important aesthetic changes? ==

I'm not sure about this or not, but is it worthwhile at all to mention somewhere these two cosmetic changes:

* Water flowing can now be heard when standing near a body of water.
* The Magnet Train's tracks now appear overground (like on Route 32).

'''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 03:24, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
:Cheers. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:36, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

*Just an addition to TheChrisD's posts, the game also has more sound effects in the overworld. Aside from the sound of water flowing, other sounds include the sound of the windmill when standing next to a windmill in New Bark Town and even just the sound of the player's walking on tall and short grass if you listen carefully.
*Also, the Running Shoes can be put on via Touch Screen, allowing the player to run without having to hold the B button.

--[[User:Daninjango|Daninjango]] 05:35, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

''while the legendary beasts use a remixed version of their battle theme from Pokémon Crystal.'' Might want to note that the remix is slightly different for each <strike>gerbil</strike> beast (eg. Raikou's has faint thunderclap-like noises) [[User:Frugali|Frugali]] 09:10, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

:: Also to make note that Cerulean Cave and Seafoam are still active, Zapdos, Moltres, Articuno and Mewtwo are all capturable. [[User:Ggctuk|Ggctuk]] 08:25, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
:::These are done. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:39, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

There's also the Game Boy Player which will replace all the game's music with the classic Game Boy Color version of the score. [[User:Ggctuk|Ggctuk]] 19:43, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

== PokéGear ==

It is not blue for {{ga|Gold|Hibiki}} and pink for {{ga|Kotone}}. The initial pattern is blue for both, but its skin is changeable to the pink version or other four models. -- [[User:RikkiKitsune|R<s>ikki</s>]][[User talk:RikkiKitsune|Kitsune]] 03:24, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
:Thanks. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:36, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

== Changes ==

Add in (Location): The [[Kanto Safari Zone]] was changed to Kanto Pal Park]].

Mt. Silver is bigger in size.

(Gameplay) And finally, the gym has change "puzzle"

Gym Leader's Pokémon has changed. --[[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang95]] 10:53, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
:Cheers. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:48, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
:: I have the jap version and am on Cyndaquil. Cyndaquil now learns Ember at lvl 10 rather than 12. [[User:Jono R|Jono R]] 17:23, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
:::Moveset changes go on the individual Pokémon's page. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:17, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

== Gym Leader Rematch Teams ==

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=960099&topic=51316486 [[User:Master Lucario|Master Lucario]]
:I would think to wait on this until another source could be found for this note. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 01:00, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
::Now it looks like Serebii.net is starting to post the details for the Gym Leader rematches but at this moment it remains incomplete, so for now it looks like it is becoming more verified and one day I am sure it would be mentioned on this page when an administrator decides it is ready. My idea is just put it with the details for the Elite Four rematches since it is on the same subject. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 12:30, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

==Kris==
''Kris, despite being the female counterpart of Crystal's player character Gold, is believed not to be included as the female counterpart, with a new character instead taking her place.'' is this still valid or should this be changed/reworded? Do we completely accept Kotone as a new character now? [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 01:07, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
:It should be, thanks for pointing that out.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 01:08, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

== Can anyone put this on Pokemon Heartgold and Soulsilver gallery? ==

http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/e/e6/Groundon.jpg
can anyone do it? I can't do it cause is not letting me. The picture i want to be upload is the groundon fight thingy or something. - ''unsigned comment from {{u|DialgaPrimeX}} ([[User talk:DialgaPrimeX|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/DialgaPrimeX|contribs]]) ''
:no. for one thing, its horrific quality, and second, its stolen from Serebii. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 07:43, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

It was my first day i did not know what to do :P- ''unsigned comment from {{u|DialgaPrimeX}} ([[User talk:DialgaPrimeX|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/DialgaPrimeX|contribs]]) ''

== Huh... that pic with Silver ==

Well, he got his sprite changed in the game. It is better to put in a new pic of battle with Silver. -- [[User:RikkiKitsune|R<s>ikki</s>]][[User talk:RikkiKitsune|Kitsune]] 07:33, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
:We shall do so. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:59, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

== Routes ==
Shouldn't we mention somewhere on the page that there are two new routes (47 and 48) were added? --[[User:Mr.lol|Mr.lol]] 15:41, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
:I think so. -- [[User:RikkiKitsune|R<s>ikki</s>]][[User talk:RikkiKitsune|Kitsune]] 21:02, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
::Got it. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:30, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

== Mt. Silver ==
A minor update that should be made at some point is that Moltres can be caught in Mt. Silver and possibly put together with the Mt. Silver update with as few words as possible. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 21:54, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
:Done. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:35, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

== Edit Plz ==
Someone needs to put things in present tense on this page. Game's come out... so the page needs to act like it. XD [[User:CherryParanoia|CherryParanoia]] 02:02, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
:Where exactly are you talking about? Most of the info ''has'' been moved to present tense... except for ''HeartGold and SoulSilver will revisit the story of Johto''. [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 02:10, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
::P.S. There's a stray apostrophe here: ''While the games' feature several expansions in key areas...'' [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 02:10, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
:::Done. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:35, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
::::"These games will be released in Japan almost exactly..." should be "These games were released in Japan almost exactly ..." [[User:CherryParanoia|CherryParanoia]] 00:12, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::Not quite. JpPt was the 13th of September. HGSS was the 12th. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 04:57, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

===One More Edit Request===
If it's worth adding that is... In this game, players can use two items quickly. I don't remember how to say it, but there can be two quick select items (maybe that's the term) instead of one. They're numbered and the first can be activated by pressing (Y) but both are available on the touch screen. [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 11:18, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
:Done. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:35, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

===Poké Gear's Radio Card is Essential===
Does that count as a gameplay change? You need to complete the quiz to make Whitney give up on her attempts and return to the gym. [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 11:37, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
:Done. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:35, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

===Gift's from Mom===
When you let your mother buy you presents, she doesn't put them in your PC but you have to go to your "friendlyshop" (Poké Mart) or department store and the delivery man is waiting for you with a gift.

Also people take your picture with all your Pokémon and send it to your PC. (Camera men at various spots around the map. usually touristy)

could you always choose not to answer your phone? [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 12:15, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

==Missing Pokemon List==
Serebii.net has just created a version exclusive list at [http://www.serebii.net/heartgoldsoulsilver/exclusives.shtml] so once somebody is ready then a Missing Pokemon list
for this page. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 21:39, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

== Obtaining Hoenn and Sinnoh pokemon ==

http://www.serebii.net/heartgoldsoulsilver/hoennsinnoh.shtml

As you can see here, you can catch pokemon from Sinnoh and Hoenn by using the Pokéegear's radio.

[[User:050294|050294]] 22:25, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

==Games Leaked==

Can someone remove that? It is not notable. Almost every game in the last two generation has. Serebii has gotten his copies of Emerald, Diamond/Pearl, Platinum, and HeartGold/SoulSilver a few days early. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 04:03, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
:I agree, once the game is properly released it's sort of irrelevant if it was leaked or not. Almost EVERYTHING major gets leaked nowadays anyway. [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 18:36, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

== Trade Me! ==

How come alot of pokemon say on their locations box that they need to be traded in to heartgold and soulsilver, when thay can just be evolved from a pokemon that can be found in the wild. Take Kakuna for instance, you can find it in the national park in gold and silver, so you can probably catch it in the same way as well in HGSS. Or you could just evolve your weedle.--[[User:Minimag|Minimag]] 06:16, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Trophy Garden

2009-09-14T07:18:17Z

Minimag:

==Getting the Pokemon marked with *?==

I haven't accually played DP before, so I wouldn't know that much about it, but it seems rather odd that Pokemon in the article that are marked with * are "Found before getting the National Dex". Does this mean that those Pokemon are ONLY available before getting the National Dex, or does it just mean that those can be caught before getting the National Dex, and will still be available there after you get the National Dex? Someone might need to clear that up a bit.
:Yes, that's what it means. They're available before the National Dex, but will still show up to annoy you after you get it too. --[[User:DarkfireTaimatsu|DarkfireTaimatsu]] 19:14, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

== Sprites ==

Like I said, I don't feel like getting in an edit war over something like this, so here I am, discussing it on the talk page like a Bulbapedian should when there's a conflict. Now, the sprites are good for nothing but decorative purposes, added for no apparent reason other than the one I just stated, yet I can't remove them without having my edits reverted (again, for no apparent reason). Personally, I think they should go; if people are so interested in seeing the Pokémon they can catch, they can click on the links. However, if I am overruled and the sprites stay, rather than being inconsitent with every other article I visit, sprites should be added to those as well (though I don't see why we should have to do this in the first place). // [[User talk:Szayel Aporro|'''''SzayelAporroGranz''''']][[Image:Ani282MS.gif]] 21:56, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
:All I am getting is, "I don't want to was bytes." That's what I'm getting.{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 21:59, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
::I couldn't make any sense of what you just said, but I'll simplify my first post: The sprites are nothing but eye candy and don't belong on this page. If sprites ''are'' readded and kept for good, then the same should apply to every article with a table like this. // [[User talk:Szayel Aporro|'''''SzayelAporroGranz''''']][[Image:Ani282MS.gif]] 22:22, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
:I agree with Pokemaniac to leave the sprites in. Until an admin decides, I'll put the sprites back up since it's majority. I also agree that this should be for every article with a table like this. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 22:23, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
::And if you think that sprites are ''eye candy'', why don't you just remove '''every single''' image from this website?!{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 22:24, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
:Lol. FYI, that was not be determined as literally take them down, don't. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 22:26, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
::I'm not ''that'' crazy. I was talking about this specific page, PM (notice I said "on this page", not site). // [[User talk:Szayel Aporro|'''''SzayelAporroGranz''''']][[Image:Ani282MS.gif]] 22:30, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
:::No, sorry if you thought I was directing that comment to you. I was putting that in case a new user looks here and sees the directions to take them all off lol. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 22:32, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Actually you said "The sprites" not "The sprites on this page" and if you think that ''these sprites'' are eyeball chocolate, why don't you get rid ''these sprites'' off of every page?{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 22:33, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
:Most Pokémon sites have trainer sprites and Pokémon sprites hanging around. Not too recently, either way, the sprites have been added to ''many'' articles, most of them Sinnoh's routes. The only reason I see to get rid of them would be "to save space", not that that space won't be filled anyway. It's a wiki. It never shrinks. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 22:36, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
:That's what I was saying above even though I mispelled it. SzayelAporro doesn't want to waste bytes.{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 22:38, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
::Not once, in my edit summaries nor the talk page, did I so much as imply it was a waste of space. But whatever; I heard an admin's opinion, so I'm happy. // [[User talk:Szayel Aporro|'''''SzayelAporroGranz''''']][[Image:Ani282MS.gif]] 23:22, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
:::I know people have decided already, but here's my opinion... if we're gonna keep the sprites, I'm gonna say that we use the {{template|MS}} or {{template|Ani}} templates, as I find the raw code is hard to look at, but that's just me.. that, and use the static sprites perhaps.. again, I find that the animated ones are overused and they just look odd to me alongside static text and such. I just think that the Ani sprites are good for colorful pages, but come on, there's the static ones too... [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 23:39, 23 January 2008 (UTC) [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 23:37, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
::::Oh certainly. If we were ever to put the Pokémon sprites on these pages, they'd be the static MSes, just like in the Pokédex lists. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 01:09, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
:Ack. You guys already put them here. VERY bad form putting them in the name box. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 01:37, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

== Porygon rarity...? ==

Does anyone think that {{p|Porygon}} may have less of a chance of appearing through Mr. Backlot than other Pokémon? I'm certainly getting suspicious. I've resetted and talked to the guy '''''over 100 times''''', and Porygon wasn't mentioned even once! And nobody say it's because Porygon was ''already'' in the garden-- that was {{p|Chansey}}. [[User:SharKing|SharKing]] 23:44, 22 August 2008 (UTC)SharKing
:Its the same with Eevee. I would think the more useful Pokemon would be harder to get through the resetting than the less useful ones like Igglybuff who I got 7 times in a row once. [[User:Dexington|Dexington]] 21:35, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

== Why? ==
*Another common trick is to put a level 18 Pokémon (one that has not yet gained any experience, or the trick fails) in the first slot of the party and use a Repel, though this returns only Pikachu and the daily Pokémon, like Chansey. This method may be used to obtain rare held items, like Lucky Egg, Light Ball, Oval Stone or Moon Stone, as seen in this video
WHY?--[[User:Wowy|Wowy]] 07:27, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

== Pikachu? ==

Why does it say that I can't catch Pikachu here in Platinum, and that the ONLY catchable Pokémon in the Trophy Garden in Platinum are special Pokémon? I want a Pikachu in Platinum when it comes out... --[[User:Alex S.|Alex S.]] 03:11, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

== Pokemon Mansion SCREAMS for an article! ==

I find it pretty annoying that Sinnoh's Pokemon Mansion does not have its article and the only article related to this place is Trophy Garden. The Mansion is a distinct place, it appeared in anime and certainly deserves its article. It is NOT to be unified with Trophy Garden! I can start a stub, but it won't have too much information. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 14:46, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

== Still a stub? ==
This article looks pretty fleshed out to me. Is the Trophy Garden page still a stub? If not, someone should remove the stub template at the bottom of the page. [[User:Jacobe|Jacobe]] 21:54, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

== Level problems... ==

In Platinum, they can be level 22. I might have even encountered level 23.[[User:Nintendofan146B|Nintendofan146B]] 20:25, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
:Yes, the levels changed within games and no one's fixed the page yet. Feel free to update. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 20:49, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

== Frequency of Backlot Pokemon ==
It seems to me that (depending on the game), Backlot seems to 'favor' certain pokemon over others. Case in point, over the last 30 days I've gone to him once a day, everyday, in my Diamond game, and he's mentioned Porygon 4 times, but hasn't given me a single Bonsly. Even before that, I went to him every so often (At least 60 times sporadically) and didn't get a single Bonsly. It seems to me that Backlot's choice is decided in a way similar to which pokemon you run into during a random encounter in tall grass. [[User:TCABF|TCABF]] 20:49, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
:Yes, that's right. It's absolutely random. He doesn't cycle through them all before he repeats himself. While it also seems likely that there is a degree of rarity involved, I haven't seen any published evidence of this, just a few fan theorems on forums and whatnot. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 21:12, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
::Hmm, in that case, I might do a study sometime, talking to him a certain number of times (Save and restart each time) and recording the data to see if I can figure out the rarities. Should 300 times be enough for good data, or should I go for 500? [[User:TCABF|TCABF]] 21:47, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
:::500's a nice number... — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 02:14, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

== Backlot? ==

Backlot? Where is that? I want a Cleffa. [[User:Ugoz|Ugoz]] 15:04, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
:Well, [[Backlot]] is the name of the owner of the mansion and garden. It is actually located sout of [[Hearthome City]] in Diamond, Pearl and Platinum. You can also get to it by going to the bottom left path at [[Pastoria City]] and following that. [[User:Solar Dragon|Solar Dragon]] 15:08, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
::I forgot that was his name. I'm so stupid [[User:Ugoz|Ugoz]] 18:48, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

==Castform==
I've caught Casstform in platinum without needed to speak to Mr.Blacklot.--[[User:Grungle7|Grungle7]] 10:14, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

== 2 special pokemon? ==

Once I was told by Backlot, that plusle was in the garden and I found plusle, the regular pokemon, and clefairy! Same thing with castform! Isn't clefairy a special pokemon?
PS:I am playing Platinum--[[User:Minimag|Minimag]] 07:15, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
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:You find the previous day's Pokémon too. So you have 48 hours to catch each one. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:16, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

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