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<p>MewUser: /* In other languages */</p> <hr /> <div>{{ElementalTypes}}<br /> {{TypeNotice|Water|みず|Mizu}}<br /> Some notable [[Pokémon trainer]]s that specialize in the Water-type include [[Misty]] of [[Cerulean City]], [[Wallace]] and [[Juan]] of [[Sootopolis City]] and [[Crasher Wake]] of [[Pastoria City]].<br /> <br /> ==Statistical averages==<br /> <br /> {{BaseStats|<br /> HP=69 |<br /> Attack=70 |<br /> Defense=73 |<br /> SpAtk=69 |<br /> SpDef=67 |<br /> Speed=62 }}<br /> <br /> ==Battle properties==<br /> Water-type moves:<br /> * Are super effective against: {{t|Fire}}, {{t|Ground}}, {{t|Rock}}<br /> * Are not very effective against: {{t|Dragon}}, {{t|Grass}}, '''Water'''<br /> * Have no effect against: None<br /> <br /> Water-type Pokémon:<br /> * Resist: {{t|Fire}}, {{t|Ice}}, {{t|Steel}}, '''Water'''<br /> * Are weak to: {{t|Electric}}, {{t|Grass}}<br /> * Have immunity to: None<br /> <br /> ==Characteristics==<br /> Defensively, the Water-type is very strong when combined with high defensive stats. Every Water-type, with the exception of Magikarp, can use Ice-type moves to counter Grass-types, so Electric is the only true threat to Water-types. That is not the case if the Pokémon in question are part Ground like {{p|Quagsire}}, {{p|Swampert}}, {{p|Whiscash}}, and {{p|Gastrodon}}.<br /> <br /> The Water-type is also useful offensively. Water-type Pokémon can learn {{m|Ice Beam}} to deal with Dragon and Grass-types, which would make their resistance to Water-type attacks irrelevant. It can be extremely useful to be super-effective against Ground- and {{type2|Rock}}s when traveling through caves, etc. As a result of these advantages, as well as having to get through water routes using {{m|Surf}}, most trainers usually have at least one Water-type in their [[party]].<br /> <br /> In total, there are 92 Pokémon with the Water-type.<br /> <br /> ==Pokémon==<br /> <br /> ===Pure Water-type Pokémon===<br /> {| {{Bluetable|background: white; margin: auto;}}<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #ccf;&quot;<br /> ! #<br /> !<br /> ! Name<br /> |-<br /> |007<br /> |[[Image:007MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Squirtle}}<br /> |-<br /> |008<br /> |[[Image:008MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Wartortle}}<br /> |-<br /> |009<br /> |[[Image:009MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Blastoise}}<br /> |-<br /> |054<br /> |[[Image:054MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Psyduck}}<br /> |-<br /> |055<br /> |[[Image:055MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Golduck}}<br /> |-<br /> |060<br /> |[[Image:060MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Poliwag}}<br /> |-<br /> |061<br /> |[[Image:061MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Poliwhirl}}<br /> |-<br /> |086<br /> |[[Image:086MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Seel}}<br /> |-<br /> |090<br /> |[[Image:090MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Shellder}}<br /> |-<br /> |098<br /> |[[Image:098MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Krabby}}<br /> |-<br /> |099<br /> |[[Image:099MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Kingler}}<br /> |-<br /> |116<br /> |[[Image:116MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Horsea}}<br /> |-<br /> |117<br /> |[[Image:117MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Seadra}}<br /> |-<br /> |118<br /> |[[Image:118MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Goldeen}}<br /> |-<br /> |119<br /> |[[Image:119MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Seaking}}<br /> |-<br /> |120<br /> |[[Image:120MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Staryu}}<br /> |-<br /> |129<br /> |[[Image:129MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Magikarp}}<br /> |-<br /> |134<br /> |[[Image:134MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Vaporeon}}<br /> |-<br /> |158<br /> |[[Image:158MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Totodile}}<br /> |-<br /> |159<br /> |[[Image:159MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Croconaw}}<br /> |-<br /> |160<br /> |[[Image:160MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Feraligatr}}<br /> |-<br /> |183<br /> |[[Image:183MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Marill}}<br /> |-<br /> |184<br /> |[[Image:184MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Azumarill}}<br /> |-<br /> |186<br /> |[[Image:186MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Politoed}}<br /> |-<br /> |223<br /> |[[Image:223MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Remoraid}}<br /> |-<br /> |224<br /> |[[Image:224MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Octillery}}<br /> |-<br /> |245<br /> |[[Image:245MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Suicune}}<br /> |-<br /> |258<br /> |[[Image:258MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Mudkip}}<br /> |-<br /> |320<br /> |[[Image:320MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Wailmer}}<br /> |-<br /> |321<br /> |[[Image:321MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Wailord}}<br /> |-<br /> |341<br /> |[[Image:341MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Corphish}}<br /> |-<br /> |349<br /> |[[Image:349MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Feebas}}<br /> |-<br /> |350<br /> |[[Image:350MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Milotic}}<br /> |-<br /> |366<br /> |[[Image:366MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Clamperl}}<br /> |-<br /> |367<br /> |[[Image:367MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Huntail}}<br /> |-<br /> |368<br /> |[[Image:368MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Gorebyss}}<br /> |-<br /> |370<br /> |[[Image:370MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Luvdisc}}<br /> |-<br /> |382<br /> |[[Image:382MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Kyogre}}<br /> |-<br /> |393<br /> |[[Image:393MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Piplup}}<br /> |-<br /> |394<br /> |[[Image:394MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Prinplup}}<br /> |-<br /> |418<br /> |[[Image:418MS.png]]<br /> |{{p|Buizel}}<br /> |-<br /> |419<br /> |[[Image:419MS.png]]<br /> |{{p|Floatzel}}<br /> |-<br /> |422<br /> |[[Image:422MS.png]]<br /> |{{p|Shellos}}<br /> |-<br /> |456<br /> |[[Image:456MS.png]]<br /> |{{p|Finneon}}<br /> |-<br /> |457<br /> |[[Image:457MS.png]]<br /> |{{p|Lumineon}}<br /> |-<br /> |489<br /> |[[Image:489MS.png]]<br /> |{{p|Phione}}<br /> |-<br /> |490<br /> |[[Image:490MS.png]]<br /> |{{p|Manaphy}}<br /> |}<br /> <br /> ===Half Water-type Pokémon===<br /> ''Primary Water-type Pokémon''<br /> {| {{Bluetable|background: white; margin: auto;}}<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #ccf;&quot;<br /> ! #<br /> !<br /> ! Name<br /> ! Type 1<br /> ! Type 2<br /> |-<br /> |062<br /> |[[Image:062MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Poliwrath}}<br /> {{typetable|Water}}<br /> {{typetable|Fighting}}<br /> |-<br /> |072<br /> |[[Image:072MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Tentacool}}<br /> {{typetable|Water}}<br /> {{typetable|Poison}}<br /> |-<br /> |073<br /> |[[Image:073MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Tentacruel}}<br /> {{typetable|Water}}<br /> {{typetable|Poison}}<br /> |-<br /> |079<br /> |[[Image:079MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Slowpoke}}<br /> {{typetable|Water}}<br /> {{typetable|Psychic}}<br /> |-<br /> |080<br /> |[[Image:080MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Slowbro}}<br /> {{typetable|Water}}<br /> {{typetable|Psychic}}<br /> |-<br /> |087<br /> |[[Image:087MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Dewgong}}<br /> {{typetable|Water}}<br /> {{typetable|Ice}}<br /> |-<br /> |091<br /> |[[Image:091MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Cloyster}}<br /> {{typetable|Water}}<br /> {{typetable|Ice}}<br /> |-<br /> |121<br /> |[[Image:121MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Starmie}}<br /> {{typetable|Water}}<br /> {{typetable|Psychic}}<br /> |-<br /> |130<br /> |[[Image:130MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Gyarados}}<br /> {{typetable|Water}}<br /> {{typetable|Flying}}<br /> |-<br /> |131<br /> |[[Image:131MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Lapras}}<br /> {{typetable|Water}}<br /> {{typetable|Ice}}<br /> |-<br /> |170<br /> |[[Image:170MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Chinchou}}<br /> {{typetable|Water}}<br /> {{typetable|Electric}}<br /> |-<br /> |171<br /> |[[Image:171MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Lanturn}}<br /> {{typetable|Water}}<br /> {{typetable|Electric}}<br /> |-<br /> |194<br /> |[[Image:194MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Wooper}}<br /> {{typetable|Water}}<br /> {{typetable|Ground}}<br /> |-<br /> |195<br /> |[[Image:195MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Quagsire}}<br /> {{typetable|Water}}<br /> {{typetable|Ground}}<br /> |-<br /> |199<br /> |[[Image:199MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Slowking}}<br /> {{typetable|Water}}<br /> {{typetable|Psychic}}<br /> |-<br /> |211<br /> |[[Image:211MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Qwilfish}}<br /> {{typetable|Water}}<br /> {{typetable|Poison}}<br /> |-<br /> |222<br /> |[[Image:222MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Corsola}}<br /> {{typetable|Water}}<br /> {{typetable|Rock}}<br /> |-<br /> |226<br /> |[[Image:226MS.png]]<br /> |{{p|Mantine}}<br /> {{typetable|Water}}<br /> {{typetable|Flying}}<br /> |-<br /> |230<br /> |[[Image:230MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Kingdra}}<br /> {{typetable|Water}}<br /> {{typetable|Dragon}}<br /> |-<br /> |259<br /> |[[Image:259MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Marshtomp}}<br /> {{typetable|Water}}<br /> {{typetable|Ground}}<br /> |-<br /> |260<br /> |[[Image:260MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Swampert}}<br /> {{typetable|Water}}<br /> {{typetable|Ground}}<br /> |-<br /> |270<br /> |[[Image:270MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Lotad}}<br /> {{typetable|Water}}<br /> {{typetable|Grass}}<br /> |-<br /> |271<br /> |[[Image:271MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Lombre}}<br /> {{typetable|Water}}<br /> {{typetable|Grass}}<br /> |-<br /> |272<br /> |[[Image:272MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Ludicolo}}<br /> {{typetable|Water}}<br /> {{typetable|Grass}}<br /> |-<br /> |278<br /> |[[Image:278MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Wingull}}<br /> {{typetable|Water}}<br /> {{typetable|Flying}}<br /> |-<br /> |279<br /> |[[Image:279MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Pelipper}}<br /> {{typetable|Water}}<br /> {{typetable|Flying}}<br /> |-<br /> |318<br /> |[[Image:318MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Carvanha}}<br /> {{typetable|Water}}<br /> {{typetable|Dark}}<br /> |-<br /> |319<br /> |[[Image:319MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Sharpedo}}<br /> {{typetable|Water}}<br /> {{typetable|Dark}}<br /> |-<br /> |339<br /> |[[Image:339MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Barboach}}<br /> {{typetable|Water}}<br /> {{typetable|Ground}}<br /> |-<br /> |340<br /> |[[Image:340MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Whiscash}}<br /> {{typetable|Water}}<br /> {{typetable|Ground}}<br /> |-<br /> |342<br /> |[[Image:342MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Crawdaunt}}<br /> {{typetable|Water}}<br /> {{typetable|Dark}}<br /> |-<br /> |369<br /> |[[Image:369MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Relicanth}}<br /> {{typetable|Water}}<br /> {{typetable|Rock}}<br /> |-<br /> |395<br /> |[[Image:395MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Empoleon}}<br /> {{typetable|Water}}<br /> {{typetable|Steel}}<br /> |-<br /> |423<br /> |[[Image:423MS.png]]<br /> |{{p|Gastrodon}}<br /> {{typetable|Water}}<br /> {{typetable|Ground}}<br /> |-<br /> |458<br /> |[[Image:458MS.png]]<br /> |{{p|Mantyke}}<br /> {{typetable|Water}}<br /> {{typetable|Flying}}<br /> |-<br /> |484<br /> |[[Image:484MS.png]]<br /> |{{p|Palkia}}<br /> {{typetable|Water}}<br /> {{typetable|Dragon}}<br /> |}<br /> <br /> ''Secondary Water-type Pokémon''<br /> {| {{Bluetable|background: white; margin: auto;}}<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #ccf;&quot;<br /> ! #<br /> !<br /> ! Name<br /> ! Type 1<br /> ! Type 2<br /> |-<br /> |138<br /> |[[Image:138MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Omanyte}}<br /> {{typetable|Rock}}<br /> {{typetable|Water}}<br /> |-<br /> |139<br /> |[[Image:139MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Omastar}}<br /> {{typetable|Rock}}<br /> {{typetable|Water}}<br /> |-<br /> |140<br /> |[[Image:140MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Kabuto}}<br /> {{typetable|Rock}}<br /> {{typetable|Water}}<br /> |-<br /> |141<br /> |[[Image:141MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Kabutops}}<br /> {{typetable|Rock}}<br /> {{typetable|Water}}<br /> |-<br /> |283<br /> |[[Image:283MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Surskit}}<br /> {{typetable|Bug}}<br /> {{typetable|Water}}<br /> |-<br /> |363<br /> |[[Image:363MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Spheal}}<br /> {{typetable|Ice}}<br /> {{typetable|Water}}<br /> |-<br /> |364<br /> |[[Image:364MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Sealeo}}<br /> {{typetable|Ice}}<br /> {{typetable|Water}}<br /> |-<br /> |365<br /> |[[Image:365MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Walrein}}<br /> {{typetable|Ice}}<br /> {{typetable|Water}}<br /> |-<br /> |400<br /> |[[Image:400MS.gif]]<br /> |{{p|Bibarel}}<br /> {{typetable|Normal}}<br /> {{typetable|Water}}<br /> |}<br /> <br /> ==Moves==<br /> <br /> ===Damage-dealing moves===<br /> {| {{bluetable2|r sortable}} width=&quot;100%&quot;<br /> |- class=&quot;c&quot;<br /> ! Name<br /> ! Category<br /> ! Contest<br /> ! Power<br /> ! Accuracy<br /> ! PP<br /> ! Target<br /> ! Notes<br /> |-<br /> | class=&quot;l&quot; | {{m|Aqua Jet}}<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | {{ic|Physical}}<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | {{ic|Beauty}}<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | 40<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | 100%<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | 20<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | One foe<br /> | class=&quot;l&quot; | Always attacks first.<br /> |-<br /> | class=&quot;l&quot; | {{m|Aqua Tail}}<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | {{ic|Physical}}<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | {{ic|Cute}}<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | 90<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | 90%<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | 10<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | One foe<br /> | class=&quot;l&quot; | <br /> |-<br /> | class=&quot;l&quot; | {{m|Brine}}<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | {{ic|Special}}<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | {{ic|Smart}}<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | 65<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | 100%<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | 10<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | One foe<br /> | class=&quot;l&quot; | Does double damage when the target's HP is 50% or less.<br /> |-<br /> | class=&quot;l&quot; | {{m|Bubble}}<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | {{ic|Special}}<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | {{ic|Cute}}<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | 20<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | 100%<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | 30<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | Both foes<br /> | class=&quot;l&quot; | Has a 10% chance of lowering the opponent's {{stat|Speed}}.<br /> |-<br /> | class=&quot;l&quot; | {{m|BubbleBeam}}<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | {{ic|Special}}<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | {{ic|Beauty}}<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | 65<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | 100%<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | 20<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | One foe<br /> | class=&quot;l&quot; | Has a 10% chance of lowering the opponent's {{stat|Speed}}.<br /> |-<br /> | class=&quot;l&quot; | {{m|Clamp}}<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | {{ic|Physical}}<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | {{ic|Tough}}<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | 35<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | 75%<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | 10<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | One foe<br /> | class=&quot;l&quot; | Attacks for two to five turns.<br /> |-<br /> | class=&quot;l&quot; | {{m|Crabhammer}}<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | {{ic|Physical}}<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | {{ic|Tough}}<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | 90<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | 85%<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | 10<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | One foe<br /> | class=&quot;l&quot; | Has a high critical hit ratio.<br /> |-<br /> | class=&quot;l&quot; | {{m|Dive}}<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | {{ic|Physical}}<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | {{ic|Beauty}}<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | 80<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | 100%<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | 10<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | One foe<br /> | class=&quot;l&quot; | User dives underwater on the first turn, then attacks in the second turn.<br /> |-<br /> | class=&quot;l&quot; | {{m|Hydro Cannon}}<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | {{ic|Special}}<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | {{ic|Beauty}}<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | 150<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | 90%<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | 5<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | One foe<br /> | class=&quot;l&quot; | Attacks on the first turn but must rest on the second turn.<br /> |-<br /> | class=&quot;l&quot; | {{m|Hydro Pump}}<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | {{ic|Special}}<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | {{ic|Beauty}}<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | 120<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | 80%<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | 5<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | One foe<br /> | class=&quot;l&quot; | <br /> |-<br /> | class=&quot;l&quot; | {{m|Muddy Water}}<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | {{ic|Special}}<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | {{ic|Tough}}<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | 95<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | 85%<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | 10<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | Both foes<br /> | class=&quot;l&quot; | May lower target's {{stat|accuracy}} by one stage.<br /> |-<br /> | class=&quot;l&quot; | {{m|Octazooka}}<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | {{ic|Special}}<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | {{ic|Tough}}<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | 65<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | 85%<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | 10<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | One foe<br /> | class=&quot;l&quot; | May lower target's {{stat|accuracy}} by one stage.<br /> |-<br /> | class=&quot;l&quot; | {{m|Surf}}<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | {{ic|Special}}<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | {{ic|Beauty}}<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | 95<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | 100%<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | 15<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | Everyone else<br /> | class=&quot;l&quot; | In battle: Does double damage when foe is using {{m|Dive}}.&lt;br&gt; Out of battle: Allows the user to travel on water.<br /> |-<br /> | class=&quot;l&quot; | {{m|Water Gun}}<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | {{ic|Special}}<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | {{ic|Cute}}<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | 40<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | 100%<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | 25<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | One foe<br /> | class=&quot;l&quot; | <br /> |-<br /> | class=&quot;l&quot; | {{m|Water Pulse}}<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | {{ic|Special}}<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | {{ic|Beauty}}<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | 60<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | 100%<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | 20<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | One foe<br /> | class=&quot;l&quot; | May {{status|Confusion|confuse}} opponent.<br /> |-<br /> | class=&quot;l&quot; | {{m|Water Spout}}<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | {{ic|Special}}<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | {{ic|Beauty}}<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | 150<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | 100%<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | 5<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | Both foes<br /> | class=&quot;l&quot; | The lower the user's HP, the lower the power of the move.<br /> |-<br /> | class=&quot;l&quot; | {{m|Waterfall}}<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | {{ic|Physical}}<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | {{ic|Tough}}<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | 80<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | 100%<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | 15<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | One foe<br /> | class=&quot;l&quot; | In battle: Has 10% chance of making the target {{status|Flinch|flinch}}.&lt;br&gt; Out of battle: Allows the user to climb waterfalls.<br /> |-<br /> | class=&quot;l&quot; | {{m|Whirlpool}}<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | {{ic|Special}}<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | {{ic| Beauty}}<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | 15<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | 70%<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | 15<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | One foe<br /> | class=&quot;l&quot; | In battle: Attacks for two to five turns.&lt;br&gt; Out of battle: Clears whirlpools.<br /> |}<br /> <br /> ===Non-damaging moves===<br /> {| {{bluetable2|r sortable}} width=&quot;100%&quot;<br /> |- class=&quot;c&quot;<br /> ! Name<br /> ! Category<br /> ! Contest<br /> ! Power<br /> ! Accuracy<br /> ! PP<br /> ! Target<br /> ! Notes<br /> |-<br /> | class=&quot;l&quot; | {{m|Aqua Ring}}<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | {{ic|Status}}<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | {{ic|Beauty}}<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | &amp;mdash;<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | &amp;mdash;%<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | 20<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | User<br /> | class=&quot;l&quot; | The user envelops itself in a veil made of water. It regains some HP on every turn.<br /> |-<br /> | class=&quot;l&quot; | {{m|Rain Dance}}<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | {{ic|Status}}<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | {{ic|Tough}}<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | &amp;mdash;<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | &amp;mdash;%<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | 5<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | All<br /> | class=&quot;l&quot; | The user summons a [[Weather conditions#Heavy rain|heavy rain]] that falls for five turns, powering up Water-type moves. <br /> |-<br /> | class=&quot;l&quot; | {{m|Water Sport}}<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | {{ic|Status}}<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | {{ic|Cute}}<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | &amp;mdash;<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | &amp;mdash;%<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | 15<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | User<br /> | class=&quot;l&quot; | Weakens {{type2|Fire}} moves while the user is in the battle. <br /> |-<br /> | class=&quot;l&quot; | {{m|Withdraw}}<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | {{ic|Status}}<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | {{ic|Cute}}<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | &amp;mdash;<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | &amp;mdash;%<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | 40<br /> | class=&quot;c&quot; | User<br /> | class=&quot;l&quot; | Increases the user's {{stat|Defense}} by 1 level.<br /> |}<br /> <br /> ==Trivia==<br /> * Of all seventeen types, the Water-type is the most abundant, with 92 Pokémon species, nearly 19% of the entire known Pokédex, being of the Water-type. This probably reflects all the different species of lifeforms that inhabit the real world's oceans, lakes and rivers.<br /> * All [[Generation I]] Water-type Pokémon are weak to {{t|Electric}} moves because there were no dual {{t|Dragon}}-, {{t|Electric}}-, or {{type2|Grass}}s to neutralize the weakness and dual Water/{{type2|Ground}} Pokémon were not introduced until [[Generation II]].<br /> * Every main protagonist in the anime (with the obvious exception of [[Max]]) has had at least one Water-type Pokémon. {{Ash}} has {{AP|Squirtle}}, {{AP|Kingler}}, {{AP|Totodile}}, {{AP|Corphish}} and {{AP|Buizel}} and had {{AP|Lapras}}, all of [[Misty]]'s Pokémon except {{TP|Misty|Togetic}} and {{TP|Misty|Azurill}} are Water-types, [[Brock]] has {{TP|Brock|Ludicolo}} and {{TP|Brock|Marshtomp}}, {{Tracey}} has {{TP|Tracey|Marill}}, {{an|May}} has {{TP|May|Wartortle}}, {{an|Dawn}} has {{TP|Dawn|Piplup}} and used to have {{TP|Dawn|Buizel}}, [[Jessie]] had {{TP|Jessie|Shellder}} and {{TP|Jessie|Magikarp}}, and James had {{TP|James|Gyarados}}.<br /> * Although [[Misty]] states in the games that she prefers an all out offense using water Pokémon, most Water Pokémon in the game usually tend to have higher defenses, gaining the title &quot;Bulky Water&quot; Pokémon. Some examples include Slowbro, Slowking, Suicune, and Gyarados.<br /> <br /> ==In other languages==<br /> * French: '''Eau'''<br /> * German: '''Wasser'''<br /> * Italian: '''Acqua'''<br /> * Spanish: '''Agua'''<br /> * Korean: '''물''' ''mul''<br /> * Hebrew: '''מים''' ''mayim''<br /> * Japanses: '''水''' ''Mizu''<br /> <br /> [[de:Wasser (Typ)]]<br /> [[fr:Eau]]<br /> [[ja:みず]]<br /> [[pt:Tipo Water]]</div>

MewUser https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Wood_Hammer_(move)&diff=384483 2008-06-10T20:50:27Z

<p>MewUser: /* By Tutoring */</p> <hr /> <div>{{MoveInfobox|<br /> n=452 |<br /> name=Wood Hammer |<br /> jname=ウッドハンマー |<br /> jtrans=Wood Hammer |<br /> desc=The user slams its rugged body into the foe to attack. The user also sustains serious damage. |<br /> type=Grass |<br /> damagecategory=Physical |<br /> basepp=15 |<br /> maxpp=24 |<br /> power=120 |<br /> accuracy=100 |<br /> bdesc=??? |<br /> category=Tough |<br /> appeal=0 |<br /> jam=0 |<br /> cdesc=??? |<br /> appealsc=2 |<br /> scdesc=Earn +2 if the Pokémon performs last in the turn. |<br /> pokefordex=wood+hammer |<br /> touches=yes |<br /> protect=yes |<br /> magiccoat=no |<br /> snatch=no |<br /> brightpowder=yes |<br /> kingsrock=yes |<br /> flag7=no |<br /> flag8=no |<br /> sound=no |<br /> footnotes= }}<br /> '''Wood Hammer''' is a very highly-damaging {{t|Grass}}-type move introduced in [[Generation IV]].<br /> <br /> =Effect=<br /> ==[[Generation IV]]==<br /> Wood Hammer does [[Physical attack|physical]] damage, and the user receives recoil damage equal to 25% of the damage done to the foe.<br /> =Learnset=<br /> ==[[Generation IV]]==<br /> &lt;div style=&quot;{{Learnset section box style}}&quot;&gt;<br /> ===By [[Level|Leveling Up]]===<br /> &lt;div style=&quot;{{Learnset list style|items=5}}&quot;&gt;<br /> * {{p|Exeggutor}} at Lv.37<br /> * {{p|Sudowoodo}} at Lv.--<br /> * {{p|Torterra}} at Lv.--<br /> * {{p|Snover}} at Lv.36<br /> * {{p|Abomasnow}} at Lv.36<br /> &lt;/div&gt;<br /> <br /> ===By [[Move Tutor|Tutoring]]===<br /> &lt;div style=&quot;{{Learnset list style|items=1}}&quot;&gt;<br /> * {{p|Torterra}}<br /> &lt;/div&gt;<br /> <br /> =In other languages=<br /> *French: '''Martobois'''<br /> *German: '''Holzhammer'''<br /> *Italiano: '''Mazzuolegno'''<br /> *Spanish: '''Mazazo'''<br /> <br /> {{Project MoveDex notice}}<br /> {{Double-Edge}}<br /> <br /> [[de:Holzhammer]]<br /> [[ja:ウッドハンマー]]</div>

MewUser https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:Pok%C3%A9_Ball/Archive_1&diff=376615 2008-06-04T17:16:19Z

<p>MewUser: /* Heavy Ball? */ new section</p> <hr /> <div>Just wondering where Abra and Phanpy are coming from, as [http://pokefor.greenchu.de/meowth346/gbc/poke-balls/ Pokémon Forever states] &quot;If the wild Pokémon is Magnemite, Grimer, Tangela, Mr.Mime, Eevee, Porygon, Dratini, or Dragonair, then Catch Rate = Catch Rate * 4.0. Please note that while these Pokémon have a greater chance to catch, not all of them can be found in the wild.&quot;<br /> [[User:Jshadias|Jshadias]] 09:53, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I'm curious, too. I see various sites that say things like &quot;Pokemon who can run away, like Teddiursa, Tangela, or Raikou&quot;, but the game stores a list of Pokemon whom the ball works better on, and that's what I used on PokéFor. --[[User:Meowth346|Meowth346]] 21:09, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> In that case, somebody remove the two offending, untrue Pogeys?<br /> <br /> And Abra really shouldn't be on that list, as it uses Teleport; it doesn't actually run away... [[User:Evkl|Evkl]] 21:45, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Should Anime-only Balls be included in this? I'm thinking of the Dark Balls and whatever it was that Sammy used from movie 4--BJG<br /> <br /> There was the Dark Ball and the GS Ball. That's all there have been. I think they would make a useful addition, though. [[User:Fabu-Vinny|Fabu-Vinny]] 19:22, 23 May 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Hyper Ball in manga ==<br /> <br /> Do you think it's worth mentioning in the &quot;in the manga&quot; section about the existance of the Hyper Ball? Ash attempts to use it in the EToP manga at the end of issue 4, and is apparently very expensive. [[User:Fsilone|Fsilone]] 02:48, 21 December 2007 (UTC)<br /> :Isn't the Hyper Ball just the Japanese name of the Ultra Ball? &lt;span style=&quot;background:#FF9030&quot;&gt;'''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/span&gt;{{ani|155|Fire echy}}&lt;span style=&quot;background:#664444&quot;&gt;[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|&lt;sup&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFD700&quot;&gt;G&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sup&gt;&lt;sub&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#E0E0E0&quot;&gt;S&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000&quot;&gt;DS!&lt;/span&gt;]]'''&lt;/span&gt; 03:00, 21 December 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::...yeah. It is. And it's rather expensive, too... [[User:Tina|Tina]]&lt;sup&gt; [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]&lt;/sup&gt; 03:03, 21 December 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Happiness Balls ==<br /> <br /> Shouldn't there be a note about the increased Happiness rating that Luxury Balls and Friend Balls produce on captured Pokemon? Or is that just a myth that has no bearing on the game data?<br /> <br /> == Main Picture ==<br /> <br /> Is an SSBM trophy really appropriate for the main picture on this article? I think it should be a plain Pokéball without the trophy base at the bottom - [[User:MTC|MTC]]<br /> <br /> I think it looks a lot better, just a sharper image if you know what I mean. And it doesn't matter the source, a Poké Ball is a Poké Ball. [[User:Evkl|evkl]] 19:25, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I think the Same as MTC. It could be the picture of a Pokéball that is in the first opening possibly. [[user:David aipom|David aipom]]<br /> <br /> == Team Rocket Balls... ==<br /> <br /> I clearly remember seeing black balls thrown by the head of Team Rocket in &amp;quot;Mewtwo's Return&amp;quot; feature length episode. Now it's a bit sad since I juest returned the darn video to the rental store and check on this which I saw just moments ago! From my poor memeory I think they were just black pokeballs with the typicial Team Rocket red R instead of red dot.<br /> <br /> They were used to capture the running pokemon (Meoth, Pikachu and the cloned pokemons), though Mewtwo used it's psychich powers to release them, making them somewhat uninteresting...<br /> <br /> Actually, I think you're thinking of the PokéBalls being thrown by the Team Rocket grunts at the herd of Tauros that Mewtwo was lifting with Psychic.[[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] 02:00, 19 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Ball Images ==<br /> <br /> The large images are nice, I admit, but perhaps using sprites would make the tables look neater and, by having ones for the Safari, Ultra and Master Balls, more complete? Given time, I could even make modifications of the sprites for the Generation II Balls. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 20:08, 11 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Replacing Images ==<br /> <br /> I don't think that the current images for Hoenn Balls and Poke and Great Ball are nice. I think they're ugly imitations of Sugimori Artwork. I have a Sugimori Artworks for almost all PokeBalls (the Johto ones are bad-qualited, though) and I think they're much better. I think we should replace the current images with the Sugimori's ones.<br /> :I dunno, I don't think the current ones look bad at all - just big, given how much they stretch the rows of the table. And how bad quality are you talking for the Johto ones? Call me a sprite fanatic, but I think the third generation item sprites would look best in the tables. The second generation ones would be missing, but, as I said, I could make some custom ones. Also, I'm not particularly fond of the anime Pokéball image, since it's so heavily pixelated... --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 01:36, 19 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Actually... now that I think of it, perhaps both of our concerns can be dealt with more easily than I thought. Hold on just a little bit... --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 18:50, 20 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> == One big vs. many small ==<br /> I've been talking with TTE. The idea of breaking some of the meat of this article up still bugs me on some level, but... well, might as well bring the idea to everyone.<br /> <br /> The idea, basically, is to start having articles for groups of items as well as individual. This one, for example, would be moved to &quot;Ball&quot;, and the lower section would link to the different articles on individual item types. If we do this for this one, we do it for all item groups...<br /> <br /> Thoughts? --[[User:Pie|Pie]] &lt;sup&gt;~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]]&lt;/sup&gt; 02:58, 16 April 2007 (UTC)<br /> :I think it'd be a good idea. After all, we have separate articles for every berry, why shouldn't we for Poké Balls and held items as well? Then, we could categorize them better, without having a gigantic page (which is what the page on [[held items]] is quickly becoming...).<br /> <br /> :C'mon, anyone else? --'''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;E&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 21:55, 17 April 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Ooh, just had an idea. How about dividing the page into individual sections for each type of ball, going into detail about its catch rate, where it's able to be purchased, and so on? --'''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;E&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 15:59, 14 May 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Green Pokeball ==<br /> <br /> I uploaded this image i took from the first pokemon episode, but i cant get the sizeing right...Someone should take a look and stick it in the Anime section --[[User:Britannia's Blade|Britannia&amp;#39;s Blade]] 19:33, 23 July 2007 (UTC)<br /> :Handled. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] &lt;sup&gt;~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]]&lt;/sup&gt; 19:53, 23 July 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Dive Ball ==<br /> What is the increase of efficiency for a dive ball when you are capturing a water/bug hybrid?<br /> :That's the Net Ball that raises the multiplier for Water or Bug Pokémon. Dive Ball in Gen III works better on Pokémon underwater, and in Gen IV works better on Pokémon you encounter while Surfing. Anyway, I think it doesn't stack, but I dunno. If it doesn't stack, it's as listed, but if it does, it's 9x. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;E&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 00:19, 21 August 2007 (UTC)<br /> :Does the Dive Ball really have an increased effect while Surfing in D/P? [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] 02:00, 19 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::I Belive it does. It's text says so. I don't know the rate though.<br /> <br /> == Sir Aaron's Staff and the passage of time within the ball. ==<br /> <br /> Should Sir Aaron's Staff be considered a pre-pokéball object as well? Also, should it be noted about how time passes for pokémon contained within pokéballs? There have been a few instances where pokémon have spent of years, centuries even, within a pokéball/pokéball like object and not aging or feeling any sort of passage of time.<br /> <br /> I think so, it is a method of capturing a Pokémon. &lt;big&gt;[[Image:Ani137MS.gif]]&lt;sub&gt;[[User:Tesh|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F05030;&quot;&gt;'''TESH'''&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/sub&gt;[[Image:Ani233MS.gif]]&lt;sub&gt;[[User Talk:Tesh|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA;&quot;&gt;'''TALK'''&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/sub&gt; [[Image:Ani474MS.gif]]&lt;sub&gt;[[User:Tesh/Other|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#EEC226;&quot;&gt;'''FUN'''&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;/big&gt; 16:41, 15 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> This is my fist post (or edit, I'm new)<br /> The passage of time seems to vary between pokéball and pokéball like objects, when in pokéballs, pokémon seem to be conscious (as trainers give commands before releasing them) but don't physically age, but in some other pokéball like object, time passes as if there sleeping while there in the object. amaster6000 11:12, 17 January 2008 (UTC)<br /> :There is obviously very little passage of time in Aaron's staff; long enough for Lucario to stew in his rage, but quick enough apparently for him to still be blind. Also remember that most of those centuries-old Pokémon are usually special specimens--often a Psychic-type or something like [[Lokoko]].--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] &lt;small&gt;•&lt;/small&gt; [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 14:58, 17 January 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Lv 2 wurmple breaks master ball ==<br /> <br /> i know the copy is hacked, but how did this happen &lt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yqw7bL2HK3E&amp;feature=related&gt;<br /> its supposed that a master ball never breaks<br /> :That's a Great Ball. Dur. {{ani|281}}[[User:TinaTheKirlia|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#E75480;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF69B4;&quot;&gt;i&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F6ADC6;&quot;&gt;n&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFC0CB;&quot;&gt;a&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;sup&gt;[[User:TinaTheKirlia/Sandbox|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFC0CB;&quot;&gt;☆&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Favorites|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F6ADC6;&quot;&gt;♥&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF69B4;&quot;&gt;♫&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;span class=&quot;plainlinks&quot;&gt;[http://freewebs.com/thepixelcafe &lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF7BBD;&quot;&gt;δ&lt;/span&gt;]&lt;/span&gt;{{ani|282}}&lt;/sup&gt; 19:56, 15 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Gen IV Park Ball ==<br /> Are the links to the Gen II games really necessary? I know that some people have been using it's resemblance to the GS Ball to support the idea of a Gen IV remake of Gold and Silver, but without an actual statement from Nintendo or Game Freak, should we really make it seem like such speculation is factual? --[[User:Dual|Dual]] 13:25, 25 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> == Hey, look what I found! ==<br /> Hey, I was surfing through Youtube the other day, and look what I found! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAfAKDFPw0o There's a planet in the &quot;Bouy Base Galaxy&quot; in Super Mario Galaxy that looks like a Poké Ball! --'''[[User:Theryguy512|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF7F00&quot;&gt;Theryguy&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Theryguy512|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA&quot;&gt;5&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA&quot;&gt;1&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA&quot;&gt;2&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 00:33, 1 February 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> The videos been removed :( But i found a new link http://youtube.com/watch?v=MweOaEzAesw [[user:David aipom|David aipom]]<br /> <br /> == Jelly Donuts? ==<br /> Umm, in the anime section of the article, someone links to a Rice Ball as a Jelly Donut. I don't think it should be referred to as this, regardless of what 4Kids calls it. [[User:Shonen Jump Master|Shonen Jump Master]] 15:45, 23 February 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Ball capsulses ==<br /> <br /> Should we mention ball capsules in this article?[[User:Darkmaster0|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#BBBBBB;&quot;&gt;Darkmaster&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Darkmaster0|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#AAAAAA;&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt;]]15:48, 27 February 2008 (UTC)<br /> :Not really, they are not significant to the pokeball at all[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000;&quot;&gt;'''C '''&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000;&quot;&gt;'''Is'''&lt;/span&gt;]] [[User:Darth Cookie Monster/My Story|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#000000;&quot;&gt;'''for Cookie'''&lt;/span&gt;]]<br /> ::What do you mean they have nothing to do with the Poké Ball? I think they should be mentioned somewhere in the article. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF7F00&quot;&gt;Theryguy&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Theryguy512|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA&quot;&gt;5&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA&quot;&gt;1&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA&quot;&gt;2&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 22:46, 27 February 2008 (UTC)<br /> :::Same here, I think so too. With a (brief) list of the Seals, maybe? [[User:TinaTheKirlia|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#E75480;&quot;&gt;Tina&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;sup&gt;[[Special:Contributions/TinaTheKirlia|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFC0CB;&quot;&gt;☆&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF69B4;&quot;&gt;♫&lt;/span&gt;]]{{ani|281}}&lt;/sup&gt; 22:49, 27 February 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == &quot;You missed the Pokémon!&quot; ==<br /> <br /> I'm not sure where to include this, but it was possible to see ^that message^ when throwing a Pokéball in Generation I. &lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF&quot;&gt;--'''''Posted by'''''&lt;/span&gt; [[User:Deadlymethane|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#7BA05B&quot;&gt;'''''Deadly'''''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Deadlymethane|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#7BA05B&quot;&gt;'''''methane'''''&lt;/span&gt;]] &lt;span style=&quot;color:#DA3287&quot;&gt;'''at'''&lt;/span&gt; 21:12, 29 April 2008 (UTC)<br /> :I remember... Stupid Safari Zone... '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;''TTE''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:21, 30 April 2008 (UTC)<br /> I took the liberty of adding it myself. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 13:16, 4 May 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Heavy Ball? ==<br /> <br /> It says that heavy ball is &quot;+20 +30 -10&quot;<br /> What does that mean? +X to the catch rate? or what?<br /> --[[User:MewUser|MewUser]] 17:16, 4 June 2008 (UTC)</div>

MewUser https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Head_Smash_(move)&diff=372446 2008-05-27T19:55:46Z

<p>MewUser: /* Pokémon */</p> <hr /> <div>{{MoveInfobox|<br /> n=457 |<br /> name=Head Smash |<br /> jname=もろはのずつき |<br /> jtrans=Double-Edged Headbutt |<br /> desc=The user delivers a life-endangering head butt at full power. The user also takes terrible damage. |<br /> type=Rock |<br /> damagecategory=Physical |<br /> basepp=5 |<br /> maxpp=8 | <br /> power=150 |<br /> accuracy=80 |<br /> bdesc= |<br /> category=Tough |<br /> appealsc=2 |<br /> scdesc=Earn +3 if the Pokémon that just went hit max Voltage. |<br /> pokefordex=head+smash |<br /> touches=yes |<br /> protect=yes |<br /> magiccoat=no |<br /> snatch=no |<br /> brightpowder=yes |<br /> kingsrock=yes |<br /> flag7=no |<br /> flag8=yes |<br /> sound=no |<br /> footnotes= }}<br /> '''Head Smash''' (Japanese: '''もろはのずつき''') is a slightly inaccurate, very highly-damaging {{type2|Rock}} move introduced in [[Generation IV]]. The Pokémon also takes 1/2 of the damage done to the foe as recoil. <br /> <br /> ==Effect==<br /> The user takes 1/2 the damage inflicted as recoil damage.<br /> <br /> ==In the anime==<br /> &lt;gallery&gt;<br /> Image:Head Smash.JPG|[[Roark's Rampardos]] using '''Head Smash'''.<br /> &lt;/gallery&gt;<br /> ===Pokémon===<br /> '''{{p|Rampardos}}'''. Rampardos is covered by a bluish-white light as opposed to Pikachu's yellow glow when using [[Volt Tackle]]. It then charges into its opponent to cause damage.<br /> * Used by [[Roark]]'s [[Roark's Rampardos|Rampardos]] from ''[[DP018|O'er the Rampardos we Watched]]'' to ???.<br /> <br /> ==Learnset==<br /> ===[[Generation IV]]===<br /> &lt;div style=&quot;{{Learnset section box style}}&quot;&gt;<br /> ====By [[Level|leveling up]]====<br /> &lt;div style=&quot;{{Learnset list style|items=3}}&quot;&gt;<br /> * {{p|Relicanth}} at Lv.78<br /> * {{p|Cranidos}} at Lv.43<br /> * {{p|Rampardos}} at Lv.52<br /> &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;<br /> <br /> {{Project MoveDex notice}}<br /> <br /> [[de:Kopfstoß]]<br /> [[ja:もろはのずつき]]</div>

MewUser https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Bulbapedia_talk:Project_Pok%C3%A9dex/Archive_3&diff=297992 2008-02-10T11:32:34Z

<p>MewUser: /* Size and Weight */</p> <hr /> <div>==Movesets==<br /> Just a thought, should we add movesets to each Pokémon page? Maybe it could be a subproject. Also, should would add the Serebii.net Pokédex to the infobox? Should Move Tutor moves be on each Pokémon? -coppro<br /> <br /> To Move List, we're getting there. But that's not a critical project yet, we have bigger things to do.<br /> <br /> To Serebii dex, no, we only link to our affiliates. Serebii is not one of them, nor is his Dex all that accurate from personal experience.<br /> <br /> To Move Tutor, yep. It counts as a learnable move. [[User:Evkl|Evkl]] 00:37, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Why don't we have Serebii as an affiliate? They've greatly improved their Dex recently, too. - hey-nahny-nahny-and-a-hey-ha-ha<br /> <br /> If you knew about all the bad blood between myself (and by association, this site) and Joe (and by association, his site, Serebii.net), you wouldn't be asking that question. ^^; --[[User:Archaic|Archaic]] 07:18, 4 October 2005 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm new to bulbapedia, very interested in helping out, and have a ton of time to kill coming up soon. I was thinking of starting to mass update Pokemon Movelists. I'm planning on effectively copying over the moveset list of Bulbasaur and correcting the fields. <br /> <br /> I'd also like to add a section of &quot;ways to acquire move&quot; for moves other than leveling up such as breeding or TM/Tutor only. Is there a sample pokemon I can show my potential designs for this on? --- [[User:Bouldersnap|Bouldersnap]] 04:44, 12 December 2006 (EST)<br /> <br /> :We'd be glad to have your help. Generally, we like to avoid having people experiment on main articles; it would be for the best if you could demonstrate your idea here, or in the [[Bulbapedia:Sandbox]]. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] &lt;sup&gt;~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]]&lt;/sup&gt; 22:02, 12 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I want to become a participant also [[User:Ivysaur|Ivysaur]] 18:07, 15 Januari 2007 (GMT)<br /> <br /> == My mistake ==<br /> <br /> Thanks for that!<br /> About the move tutor, I didn't see it on the bulba page the first time, but I see it now. My mistake! [[User:Coppro|Coppro]] 00:42, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I can help with card text, if anyone needs. Mostly the older sets.--BJ<br /> <br /> ==Pokémon Information==<br /> <br /> The Pokémon pages would benefit from information as a species. I am unsure how would be best to go about this. It's no secret that the best place to get information on a Pokémon from would be the game Pokédexes, now we could do a few things:<br /> <br /> *Have subheadings for each Pokédex entry from games.<br /> *Have a single long paragraph with the text from all the Pokédexes mushed together.<br /> *Have a single long paragraph, totally re-written but taking bits of information from Pokédex entries.<br /> <br /> I personally would go for the last one. What do you lot think? - [[User:Ferret|Ferret]] 03:56, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Why is no one replying to this to give their opinion? I believe individual species background is a very important part of Pokémon and what makes it special from other creature-training games. I did not want to go ahead and add things when it's not what is wanted or required. - [[User:Ferret|Ferret]] 03:20, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Having no clue what you mean by it, I suggest you make a sample set of edits and see how people respond to it. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]]&lt;sub&gt;[[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]]&lt;/sub&gt; 04:09, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> First one should be included anyways, maybe third as well. Definitely not the second. - [[User:Jshadias|Jshadias]] 04:18, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Zhen Lin: It should be obvious really, the Pokémon pages do not cover information about species themseleves yet, only statistical stuff and name origins, the first goal for the Pokédex Project is &quot;'''Expand Pokémon pages to have at least a paragraph of information about a Pokémon, preferably background information on that Pokémon.'''&quot; I'm trying to bring up some ideas to help achieve this goal. - [[User:Ferret|Ferret]] 04:41, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Movelists ==<br /> <br /> ''Add all Generation III movelists to both /GenIII pages and the main page of a Pokémon.''<br /> :Why put the same information in two places, especially when it is just going to be moved when Generation IV is released? - [[User:Jshadias|Jshadias]] 04:04, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Ease of deletion--you don't need to move everything over with the advent of GenIV. [[User:Evkl|evkl]] 10:34, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I reformatted the &quot;By Breeding&quot; move list for Squirtle. I do hope I did it correctly. However just in case I didn't, I have the old version saved on my computer. I hope I helped. - Canopydouble 10:44, 2 December 2007 (EST)<br /> <br /> == The Infobox ==<br /> <br /> Shouldn't Pokémon heights and weights from the game Pokédex be added to the InfoBox - [[User:MTC|MTC]]<br /> :I think you're right... hoo, boy, it's going to be ''fun'' adding all those heights and weights, though. Especially since there's the English feet-inches-pounds versus (what I believe is originally used) the good ol' metric system. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 23:26, 9 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Locations==<br /> <br /> Would you like me to add game locations to each Pokémon's page? Please tell me what you think of the table on the [[Pikachu (Pokémon)|Pikachu]] page. [[User:Fabu-Vinny|Fabu-Vinny]] 12:51, 22 May 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Anime information and Manga information ==<br /> <br /> These headings should be something like &quot;In the anime&quot; and &quot;In manga&quot;, similar to the current &quot;In the TCG&quot; header. - [[User:Jshadias|Jshadias]] 07:34, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> While on the topic of Anime Information, I'd like to see someone else besides me adding Anime Information more often. Please?--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 00:30, 9 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Pokédex Data and TCG Pages==<br /> <br /> Already on it. Go check out my [[User:Doug_teh_H-Nut|user page]] and see what all I've added in. I'd appreciate it if someone could put in the data that I haven't.<br /> <br /> I think that each card should have its own page. I just want to know, how should we go about it? What should we name the pages, say something like [[Beedrill #17 (TCG)]] for the Base One Beedrill? --[[User:Doug_teh_H-Nut|Doug teh H-Nut]]<br /> <br /> I see that the Pokédex Data from Stadium 2 needs to be added, but I believe it's the same data as in Gold. Anyone with the game with them wanna check? --[[User:PikamasterADV|PikamasterADV]] 22:22, 9 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Is there even Pokédex data in Colosseum and XD? I don't think there is (not 100% sure) but if not, it should be deleted from the Pokédex template. --[[User:Mudkiplover56|Mudkiplover56]] 23:36, 3 May 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ===TCG Pokédex entries?===<br /> Should they be just part of {{bp|Project TCGDex}}, or be included in the data here? '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;E&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 00:08, 8 August 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == As a Species? ==<br /> <br /> What gives? If this project is meant to classify Pokemon as a species, then why doesn't it? There are stats, yes, but the Wikipedia page on Pikas doesn't list those facts, does it? Listen, I worked hard on a Pikachu entry for Wikipedia, as follows:<br /> <br /> &lt;nowiki&gt;<br /> ==Biology== A Pikachu (plural also Pikachu) is a ground-dwelling mammal belonging to a subspecies of [[rodent]]s including itself, it's evolutions, [[Plusle]], [[Minun]], and possibly undiscovered others, although pikachu are by far the most well known. Pikachu have short, yellow fur with brown stripes on its back, black-tipped ears, along with an unusually shaped tail, resembling a lightning bolt. They are often found in forests, plains, and occasionally near electrical sources, on most continents throughout the world. It is also a popular pet, and relatively easy to maintain, with little exercise necessary for it's well being, although periodic electric discharge is extremely important. Pikachu are known to have acute senses of hearing, thanks to its large ears. Most domestic pikachu are very intelligent, understanding and interpreting human [[speech]] at levels far surpassing those of any pet [[dog]]. Pikachu can be harmful [[pests]], eating and sometimes destroying telephone poles, wires, and other electronic equipment. In communities found near wooded areas, it is not uncommon for a pikachu to sometimes show up under or near houses, presumably attracted by the electrical output generated by the dwellers' appliances. <br /> <br /> ===Diet=== Living in wooded areas, pikachu often are found foraging for berries. Instead of climbing trees, they use small electrical shocks to release the berries from the tree, roasting them at the same time. As pets, they can be fed a variety of processed food, available at many pet stores. Alternatively, pikachu are tolerant to most &quot;human&quot; food, and sometimes enjoy it more then the more nutritional food designed for their biology. <br /> <br /> ===Electrical Abilities=== Exclusive to the Pikachu's subspecies is the obvious ability to release electric discharges of varying intensity, at will, through glandular pouches residing in its cheeks. These glands allow it to store and release a unique form of chemical energy, which can be released in bolts of lightning or [[ball lightning]] to defend itself from attackers, to cook food, to be used in battle, at the command from it's trainer, or in self-defense in the wild. Pikachu are rarely known to purposefully attack others besides the aforementioned, but particularly aggressive pikachu have been recorded. Pikachu often travel in packs, and are rarely territorial. However, when threatened, a group can generate an intense electrical offensive, and the electro-magnetic forces exerted by the resulting field can even produce a short lived, localized thunderstorm. As pikachu build up energy in their electricity glands, it is often needed to discharge, as to not result in a short, or worse, which can lead to physical [[Paralysis ]], or in severe cases, death. Pikachu release the built-up energy through their tail, which acts as a grounding rod, to safely remove unneeded energy. A sure sign to tell if a location is inhabited by pikachu (or a member of its subspecies) is to look for patches of burnt grass, which is the result of the discharge. Through an inability to release a buildup of electricity, a pikachu may develop a rare condition, very similar to the human [[flu]]. This illness is most often caused by strong nearby electro-magnetic forces, which severely impact the electric glands. If a pikachu is introduced to a magnet, it will be attracted towards its cheeks, and display other common attributes of [[magnetism]].&lt;/nowiki&gt;<br /> <br /> Good, no? I'd be willing to write comprehensive facts on ''every'' pokemon, but first, I must ask, is this acceptable, or are you fine with figures and charts? A disgrace, I say! Pokemon as a species means treating them as real, living creatures!<br /> <br /> Again, I would be fine with writing articles like this on ''all'' pokemon, even if I was the ''only'' one writing them. Hell, I think I'd prefer it that way. So, would everyone be fine with that? I'm gonna go ahead and add this to Pikachu's Page, ok?<br /> <br /> [[User:Supermariorobot|Supermariorobot]] 04:15, 5 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I'm fine with it, and think it's great. The more the better, not everything has to be hard mechanical game information. It's the fluff that makes the Pokemon universe go 'round anyway. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 04:20, 5 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Nice. So, I guess I'm in charge of this? Or would I need to ralk to an Admin? [[User:Supermariorobot|Supermariorobot]] 04:21, 5 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Like it's said on Wikipedia: be bold. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 04:27, 5 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::LET ALL KNOW THIS!!!! I, Supermariorobot, am in charge of writing Biological discription of Pokemon as a species! w007! [[User:Supermariorobot|Supermariorobot]] 04:32, 5 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::Is there somewhere I should put this on the site, besides here? [[User:Supermariorobot|Supermariorobot]] 04:38, 5 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Not the worst idea we've ever had, but take note of some of the edits I've made on the Pikachu article itself. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 05:42, 5 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Supermariobot, you have come up with an excellent idea. The articles for other well-known Pokémon like Bulbasaur will be easy to update. However, I wish you good luck in trying to find such comprehensive information for the newer, lesser-known Pokémon, such as Vespiquen or Pachirisu. And the legendaries will be even harder to produce information for. :) [[User:Pokéball|Pokéball]] 15:53, 10 July 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Type effectiveness ==<br /> <br /> All Pokémon pages have a section called, &quot;Type effectiveness&quot;. Currently the [[Template:Type effectiveness|Template]] used for &quot;Later versions&quot; reflects &quot;the average physical/special ratio&quot;. For [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|Diamond and Pearl]] it has already been revealed that whether an attack is physical or special will be determined individually for each attack instead of based on what attack type it is. This means that the physical/special ratio no longer applies to type effectiveness. There needs to be another section that does not reflect the physical/special ratio. I would like to know how we should go about doing this. [[User:Drapion|Drapion]] 00:33, 7 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I was working on this but got confused. Can someone explain this? At first I thought that the bar meant how well an attack from other PKMN with that type would do, but it turns out that it's a measure of STAB as if this PKMN were using an attack of that type or what? [[User:Gambler|Gambler]] 06:30, 29 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::The type effectiveness is how effective a type of that element would be against the Pokémon. For example, against Onix, Water is x4 (400 on the graph), Ground is x2 (200 on the graph), Psychic is x1 (100 on the graph), Flying is x0.5 (50 on the graph), Poison is x0.25 (25 on the graph). But the system we have was designed for when the Defense and Special Defense also came into play for this. Even before the DP changes, the section was badly explained and the visuals were unuseful and caused page stretching problems (though this problem has been reduced in the new system, it still exists for screens with low resolutions). I think a better system needs to be designed and implemented. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 06:44, 29 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Oh, I see. Let me give it a thing over the night and I'll try something in the Sanbox tomorrow. Thanks Pie! [[User:Gambler|Gambler]] 06:50, 29 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::Idea! Now that was quick! How about replaceing it for a &quot;Damage Ratio&quot; table? it should have a column for every type and 2 rows, one for Physical and other for Special. Inside each cell goes the effect of that type of attack with that kind of interaction. Onix Ex.<br /> <br /> {| border=1<br /> | ||PKMN Def || Normal || Grass || Rock ||<br /> |-<br /> |Physical || 160 || <br /> |-<br /> |Special || 45 || <br /> |}<br /> <br /> == Style issues ==<br /> Or Bulbapedia feng shui. Believe it or not, Bulbapedia was discussed in the #bulbagarden chat. Wow. Anyway, besides a general consensus that more useful information should be added than the Name origin information and the articles really need fleshing out in a lot of ways, some thoughts about the style of the Pokémon species articles came up, and since I have a backbone, I'm the one who's sharing what those thoughts were.<br /> * Apparently, the Type effectiveness is not being well received. Others have told me it's ugly and not particularly informative. Why was it added? Does it need to be kept, or could it be removed, or replaced with a more stylish alternative?<br /> * The Name origins are not being considered particularly factual, interesting, useful information either. These may be better moved down to the Other information section, perhaps even as two subsections under Trivia (since, despite the fact that it's unrelated to the name, speculation on design inspirations are usually included under Name origin).<br /> * Appearances may fit better before the Game information, rather than after. In general, it will help the flow of articles if sections with tables are moved below sections with text.<br /> The majority of these are not my own suggestions, though I understand the thought process behind each point and think that this major reorganizing is worth consideration, particularly since I've just started working to organize the articles anyway. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 08:57, 11 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Here's what I think should be done: The RBY Type Effectiveness section should be removed, because the information is only useful to a small number of people. If that's too extreme for some people, then a small section detailing the differences in RBY should be added as part of the current Type Effectiveness section. Secondly, the Type Effectiveness sections should not take into account the physical/special ratio because it won't apply in Diamond/Pearl, and because Pokémon with lower special defense have bars that extend far beyond the edge of the page. [[User:Drapion|Drapion]] 15:03, 12 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::That's certainly true. I mean, one only has to take a look at {{p|Rhyhorn}}'s type effectiveness section to see the problem with the current style. Perhaps we should only indicate x1/4, x1/2, x2, and x4 type effectivenesses, and then how more or less effective a physical attack is compared to a special attack - if anyone still can't figure out which attacks would be best for them to use, then clearly they need to start using a calculator more frequently. (Which, conveniently enough, will be part of the Pokétchi or whatever it's called.) --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 19:52, 12 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ===Style issues take 2===<br /> All right, the revised layout has been up on the project page for a while. Now, '''does anyone have any questions, comments, or concerns regarding this layout?''' If no one has any changes they'd like to see to this layout, I think it's about time we set to work organizing all the articles and adding in the appropriate sections. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 23:52, 24 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Last call for comments. Otherwise, reorganization will begin. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 23:26, 26 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Evo boxes ==<br /> <br /> I think we should standardize the sprites that we put there, perhaps changing all of them to ###.png, since we know the National Dex numbers to them all now. Then, it'd be easier to do, or even to use the images on userpages for the teams, like I do. Plus, I've noticed we need to get images for all 493 of them now. I've set up a template, [[Template:sp]], which sets a sprite at (whatever is linked after the vertical pipe).png. For example, you could do &lt;nowiki&gt;{{&lt;/nowiki&gt;sp|001&lt;nowiki&gt;}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;, and you'd come up with the sprite for Bulbasaur, {{sp|001}}.<br /> <br /> It'd work well, too, for Pokémon we haven't got numbers for yet, when Generation V comes around... All you'd need to do is input the name instead, then change the sprite to a number-based one when the National numbers were revealed.<br /> <br /> Also, are we going to change all of the sprites that we have for RSE to DP ones now for all of the oldies as well as having DP sprites for the new guys? [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 08:49, 7 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Personally, I don't think there's that much of a graphical difference between the GBA and DS sprites, but if anyone wants to take the time doing it - feel free. A lot of Pokemon are actually missing evo boxes and sprites, actually. That and level-up moves seem to be the things missing from the most pages. --[[User:Zeta|Zeta]] 08:52, 7 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I personally would like that entire archive revamped. Every single DS Pokemon sprite, both genders (where applicable, if not, then all the females mostly), all in PNG format. Right now, it's incomplete... I'd be glad to help if we undertake such a little image project. [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 10:34, 7 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I think we should go for the DS sprites. There is a difference, and you can see it when you compare the sprites of the larger ones - the GBA sprites are 64x64, while the DS sprites are 80x80. The larger sprites means an improved quality. (Changing the evo-chart boxes might be a good idea, though, since they're constructed with the smaller 64x64 sprites in mind.)<br /> :Also, standardization and templates are good. The less sloppy Bulbapedia is, the better. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 18:09, 7 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I put up the Houndour and Houndoom sprites from pearl/ diamond if you want to see how it looks in the boxes. --[[User:Link3710|Link3710]] October 8 0:50<br /> <br /> Now, the real issue: do we take the animated versions? Do we do the second or first frame? I noticed that for most of the sprites we take the second frame of the Emerald ones.<br /> <br /> Also, we'll need to take a roll call of those still in need of the evoboxes, then those still in need of sprites, and some of the Shin'ō natives still don't have their National number, or Shin'ō number (if it's applicable) in their box.<br /> <br /> ...I also have to wonder, is it possible to introduce past sprites to the articles? Like, for Charizard's article, having all of the sprites so far, including animated ones for Crystal, Emerald, and D/P? That way, when a new version comes out, we can just move the previous sprites to that old sprite section. [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 02:00, 8 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> :We've considered having sprite sections before, I think, but never decided on the best way to do it. As for finding out who needs what, there's only one easy way to do it - go through each article one by one... --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 02:14, 8 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> For the record, I fully support having a &quot;Sprites and Other Artwork&quot; section on every Pokemon's page near the bottom featuring a collection of Sugimori artwork from every gen they've been in, all the sprites, and line-art or screen-caps from the anime where applicable. --[[User:Zeta|Zeta]] 05:52, 8 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ===Sprite suggestion===<br /> I don't know WHY we used the second frame/Emerald's, as some of them look pretty bad intermediate sprites. What we should do is make a sprite archive, separate them into 4 subpages by Generation, and get every single sprite, the GBC versions for the old ones, and name them as follows:<br /> *The first 2 letters could be the generation and version, the next 3 the number, then a 'b' if a back sprite, if we have those, and an 's' at the end if shiny Example:<br /> **Japanese Red/Green would be '1g'<br /> **Japanese Blue/English Red/Blue would be '1b'<br /> **Yellow version's sprites would be '1y'<br /> **Gold would be '2g', Silver '2s', Crystal's animations '2c'<br /> ***A Charmander from Japanese Red would be '1g004'<br /> ***A Bulbaaur from Gold would be '2g001'<br /> ***A Shiny Squirtle from Silver would be '2s007s'<br /> ***An Unown from Crystal in the form of B would be '2c201-B'<br /> *For Gen III:<br /> **Ruby and Sapphire's 'rs'<br /> **FireRed and LeafGreen's 'fl'<br /> **Emerald's animations: 'em'<br /> ***A Shiny Unown from Emerald in the from of a '?' (_ for the ?) would be 'em201-_s'<br /> ***An Attack Deoxys from FireRed would be 'fl386-A'<br /> *And for Diamond and Pearl:<br /> **First 2 letters would be 'dp', then the next 3 the number '###', then an 'm', 'f', or 'g' for the gender, a 'b' if a back, and an 's' if it's shiny.<br /> ***Male Venusaur: 'dp003m'<br /> ***Female Shiny Mr. Mime: 'dp122fs'<br /> <br /> If this sounds too complicated, or just stupid, please comment XP. Note that I will help this project if it's decided we do it, I'm good at wiki-formatting, and can really help with the sprites. Oh, and by the way, the animated sprites are going to be ripped soon. Cheers. [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 07:51, 8 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> :It is a complex code, but a comprehendable one, assuming we type up a guide for it and add it to some sub-page of the Project Pokédex page - even I had a bit of trouble following it as a list. ^^o Also, I think perhaps &quot;sprite&quot; or even just &quot;spr&quot; should be added to the front of the names, just in case someone looking over the filenames such as in the Recent Changes doesn't look over the list and just think &quot;Bzuh?&quot; Descriptive filenames are usually good. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 18:57, 8 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> What about all the pokemon that don't get new sprites in Fire Red/Leaf Green? Also Gold and Silver backs are the same so you only need to have one. --[[User:Link3710|Link3710]] 22:53, 8 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I agree with 'spr', Pie. Link3710: The Gold and Silver sprites were indeed different, and we wouldn't add duplicates for the sprites that are the same in FireRed/LeafGreen. Only the first 151 and Teddiursa (for some reason) were changed from R/S/E. [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 23:59, 8 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :The fronts were different for Gold and silver sprites but not the backs just check it out if you have both. So is the code going to be sprgg###esb-x where g=game #=national dex number e=gender s=shiny b=back and x=anything else?<br /> <br /> ::Yes, and I believe Crystal used the same back sprites as well.<br /> ::*spr(gg)(###)[e][-x][b][s].png<br /> ::[[User:DanPMK|MK]] 16:19, 9 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::so for gsc back sprites should we use gsc instead of 2g 2s and 2c? Anyhow if noone disagrees with this I already have bulbasaur through blastoise ready and named according to this.--[[User:Link3710|Link3710]] 16:46, 9 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I realized all generations have the same back sprites so we might as well just use the generation number for back sprites. Anyhow if anyone has any suggestions please make them now.--[[User:Link3710|Link]] 20:16, 12 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::We need underscores, as I just renamed the bulk of my sprites to this formula and they look better. How's this?<br /> :::{| border=1<br /> ! Game/Gen <br /> ! Sprite<br /> ! Status<br /> |- <br /> |Red/Green (J)<br /> |'''spr_1g_###'''<br /> |[http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Category:Pok%C3%A9mon_Red_and_Green_sprites Complete] <br /> |-<br /> |Blue (J) &amp; Red/Blue (E)<br /> |'''spr_1b_###''' <br /> |[http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Category:Pok%C3%A9mon_Red_and_Blue_sprites Complete]<br /> |-<br /> |Yellow<br /> |'''spr_1y_###'''<br /> |[http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Category:Pok%C3%A9mon_Yellow_sprites Complete]<br /> |-<br /> |Gen I back<br /> |'''spr_b_g1_###''' <br /> |[http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Category:Generation_I_back_sprites Complete]<br /> |-<br /> | colspan=3 | &lt;hr&gt;<br /> |-<br /> |Gold<br /> |'''spr_2g_###[_s]''' <br /> |[http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Category:Pokémon_Gold_sprites Complete] with [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Category:Pokémon_Gold_sprites_(shiny) Shiny]<br /> |-<br /> |Silver<br /> |'''spr_2s_###[_s]'''<br /> |[http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Category:Pokémon_Silver_sprites Complete] with [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Category:Pokémon_Silver_sprites_(shiny) Shiny]<br /> |-<br /> |Crystal (anim)<br /> |'''spr_2c_###[_s]''' <br /> |?<br /> |-<br /> |Gen II back<br /> |'''spr_b_g2_###[_s]''' <br /> |?<br /> |-<br /> | colspan=3 | &lt;hr&gt;<br /> |-<br /> |&lt;s&gt;Ruby/Sapphire&lt;/s&gt;<br /> |&lt;s&gt;'''spr_3r_###[_s]'''&lt;/s&gt;<br /> |&lt;s&gt;?&lt;/s&gt;<br /> |-<br /> |Fire/Red (1-151 + 216)<br /> |'''spr_3f_###[_s]'''<br /> |?<br /> |-<br /> |Emerald (anim)<br /> |'''spr_3e_###[_s]'''<br /> |[http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Category:Pokémon_Emerald_sprites Missing 28] / Shiny not<br /> |-<br /> |Gen III back<br /> |'''spr_b_g3_###[_s]'''<br /> |[http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Category:Generation_3_back_sprites Missing 3]<br /> |-<br /> | colspan=3 | &lt;hr&gt;<br /> |-<br /> |Diamond/Pearl<br /> |'''spr_4d_###[_g][_s]'''<br /> |?<br /> |-<br /> |Gen IV back<br /> |'''spr_b_g4_###[_g][_s]''' <br /> |?<br /> |-<br /> | colspan=3 | &lt;hr&gt;<br /> |-<br /> | colspan=3 | [_g] is gender for 4th gen sprites&lt;br&gt; [_s] is shiny for 2nd+ gen sprites<br /> |-<br /> | colspan=3 | &lt;hr&gt;<br /> |-<br /> | colspan=3 | -a at the end (but before _s) for Unown's letter&lt;br&gt;&lt;s&gt;-# at the end (but before _s) for Spinda's variant&lt;/s&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;sub&gt;Scrath that, too many variants&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;br&gt;-[weather] (sun/rain/hail) at the end (but before _s) for Castform's forms&lt;BR&gt; -[form] at the end (but before _s) for Deoxys's form&lt;br&gt;-[type] at the end (but before _s) for Minomutchi/madam's 2nd type&lt;br&gt;-[region] at the end (but before _s) for Karanakushi/Toritodon's region&lt;br&gt;-[type] at the end (but before _s) for Arseus's type<br /> |} [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 07:49, 13 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Now here's the thing: do we animate the sprites as they are in the game, or do we just use the second frame? It'd be weird just to have them flash between the two frames, since most of them do something else as well... Should we just use the second frame?<br /> <br /> I do like the system for naming the images, though. And they are all going to be .png, right? Except for the animated ones, if we do that. Would we have to make a .swf if we were to animate the Emerald ones? COULD we imbed a .swf into the page? I know the Crystal ones don't do much besides frame changes, but Emerald ones rotate, bounce... all sorts of things.<br /> <br /> Also, for Unown's letter, for ? and !, can we use those in the filename? Maybe for ? it could be qm and ! it can be em, so it doesn't interfere with the letters. Then if there's any more in future generations, they can be at things like pe for a period, co for a comma... and so on.<br /> <br /> Of course, to make things easier for the sprite boxes, should we keep them as ###.png, for the latest-generation sprites, and have those as well be at the other thing for when they're replaced with whatever comes next? I think it'd make things a lot easier, and we'd not have to change the evo boxes every generation. Because, really, when Gen V comes along, we'll have 493 to change, and then at least 100 more to add. [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 19:03, 13 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I THINK we could do the animations as gif, and that could work. Also the full Crystal sprites have more than two frames, Venasaur has 27 frames if captured fully. About the evo boxes they take about two seconds if all we have to change is the number so we don't neccessarily need double images. --[[User:Link3710|Link]] 19:39, 13 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Still images would be PNG, animated images would be GIF. For Unown's ! form, '!' can be used in a file name, but ? cannot, so 'em' is fine. For Gen V, they might end up using the same sprites. If so, we'll just add the new ones. As for Emerald's animations, they have been ripped in .gif format perfectly. Example: [[Image:Spr_3e_001.gif]] [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 21:07, 13 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::For backs do we even need the _b since the generation part is different.--[[User:Link3710|Link]] 19:20, 14 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::You're right, we should use a different thing for backs, like '''spr_b_g#_###[_s]'''. That way, all the backs are near eachother on the list. Oh, and with the emerald animations, the Ruby/Sapphire sprites are unecessary. [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 10:26, 15 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Even if its just '''spr_g#_###[_s]''' they'll be together because the others will be #g instead of g#. Where should we put the sprite section under evolution?--[[User:Link3710|Link]] 21:17, 15 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Just wanna make sure you can tell it's a back sprite from it's name. I started the Emerald ones, got many up so far [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Category:Pok%C3%A9mon_Emerald_sprites here]. [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 02:47, 16 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Less confusing the better though. I'll do green sprites. --[[User:Link3710|Link]] 19:50, 16 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Emerald sprites done. Gonna work on the FireRed/LeafGreen ones soon. I'll volunteer for all the Gen III and Gen IV animated ones as well. [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 10:16, 17 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::Please do NOT put the animated Emerald sprites in the evolution boxes. The animation in that part looks tacky, and the DP sprites are preferred anyway. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 13:26, 17 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::I only put them there temporarily waiting for the D/P sprites to be uploaded (since we obviously don't don't have Emerald sprites for the D/P's) Also finished the Gen 3 back sprites. [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 15:17, 17 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::Ah, okay. I'd avoid doing things like that in the future, however - animated sprites have their uses, but they're not particularly good placeholders. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 16:51, 17 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::Yup, I wasn't sure if they were going to upload the D/P sprites anyway...the ones now don't follow the pattern above, but we can simply use ###.png for the static images of the most recent generation. Also: Does anyone have the animated Emerald sprites for Unown and Castform's alts? As well as the back sprites for Deoxys in Emerald, FireRed, and LeafGreen? Those are the only ones missing for the 3rd gen so far... [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 19:48, 17 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::Update: Yellow sprites done. Check the chart above for updates. [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 15:37, 19 October 2006 (UTC) <br /> :::::::Red/Green done [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 19:36, 23 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::All generation I sprites done (Blue and back since last time). I think by now I know all the first 151 numbers and positions by heart. My fingers hurt. [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 23:08, 26 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::As I've seen them needed, I've put the D/P sprites at ###.png, for easier access in Pokédex pages and such. Any luck finding the alternate versions of the Unowns? And how about the mini, Party-screen sprites of them all? Should they be here, too? They don't seem to have ANY difference between gen III and IV, so we have that going for us if we do them, at least... [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 12:38, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::You guys are all lucky. I can't even see the sprites on my computer screen. Wherever they are supposed to be on the page, nothing is there. Does anyone know why? I know it's not my browser, because I can see images perfectly on Wikipedia, and the Bulbapedia logo even shows up. Can someone help me? [[User:Pokéball|Pokéball]] 15:59, 10 July 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Should we make it a project to try to acquire all of the missing sprites, because if so, where can we get some. Canopydouble 17:38, 7 November 2007 (EST)<br /> :Nah, it'd really just be part of this one. And as for where, well, Pokémon Elite 2000 has a bunch, the problem is really the uploading. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;TTE&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 05:45, 8 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I'm working on it. My fingers still hurt. Gold sprites uploaded, I may do the shiny ones later today. [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 17:03, 9 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Okay. Looking at the Sprite template, I refresh the page on {{p|Umbreon}} (Since the Gold sprite is uploaded.) and it's not showing up. The filename is correct. What the heck could be wrong? :S {{ani|281}}[[User:TinaTheKirlia|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#E75480;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF69B4;&quot;&gt;i&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F6ADC6;&quot;&gt;n&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFC0CB;&quot;&gt;a&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;sup&gt;[[User:TinaTheKirlia/Sandbox|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFC0CB;&quot;&gt;☆&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Favorites|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F6ADC6;&quot;&gt;♥&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF69B4;&quot;&gt;♫&lt;/span&gt;]]{{Ani|380}}&lt;/sup&gt; 17:09, 9 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I think it's a cache issue. Try closing your browser, erasing your cache, and going back to the page. If that doesn't work, then the server is just catching up. I just finished all the normal Silver ones; I'll work on the shinies for G/S tomorrow. [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 01:34, 12 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Yup, it is. Just finished Gold shiny. Also, the Unown sprites I have are not sized correctly, so I'll have to do those by hand; it may take a while. I'll do Silver shiny later today or tomorrow. [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 16:37, 12 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Bam. That was easier than I thought. All the Gold and Silver Unown sprites, including shiny, are up. Crystal may be more of a challenge. [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 19:57, 12 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Categories ==<br /> <br /> Recently, I've been categorizing some Pokémon's pages like nuts, organizing them by how they evolve, and stuff like that. What does everytone think of it? I know it's kinda overloaded on Eevee's and some others' pages, like Poliwhirl, but can't we remedy that somehow?<br /> <br /> Also, should we categorize Pokémon that don't evolve at all, legendaries, and Pokémon that evolve only by level? Or just leave off the level-evolvers, since that's pretty much everyone? Also, should the Pokémon be categorized under Pokémon that don't evolve, and bring all of the final forms in, or under Pokémon that are not part of an evolution chain, to prevent that? [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 02:15, 26 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Wobbuffet and Wynaut: Other appearances ==<br /> <br /> [http://youtube.com/watch?v=iizKu2J1G7w See here] for Mystery Dungeon appearance. It should be noted when you watch this that Wobbuffet's Japanese name means something like &quot;That's the way it is&quot; in Japanese, and the joke was lost in translation, but Wynaut is so cute! --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 16:19, 22 January 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Joining?==<br /> How do I join this project? I would like to. [[User:Carnivine|Carnivine]]<br /> <br /> I would also like to join. I would like to help in any way possible. [[User:Djensen1992|Djensen1992]]<br /> <br /> I also am interested in joining the project.--[[User:Durgle|Durgle]] 21:07, 11 June 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I, also, would very much like to join this project. - [[User:C.Olimar788|C.Olimar788]] 00:34, 20 June 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Funny how people ask if they could join in this section, but they are never answered. I would also like to help. [[User:Pokéball|Pokéball]] 16:35, 10 July 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I would like to join the project. -[[User:DarkMazer|DarkMazer]] 20:12, 13 August 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Can i Join? --[[User:Bearfan121|Bearfan121]] 17:26, 17 August 2007 (UTC)<br /> :Everyone, sign your name on the project page to join. And only do so if you're prepared to get your grammar scrutinized, all according to the good ol' {{bp|manual of style}}. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;E&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 02:52, 18 August 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I want to help, what should I do? - Canopydouble - 18:10, 11 November 2007 (EST)<br /> :Whatever you want to help with. The [[Bulbapedia:Project Pokédex/To-do list|to-do list]] covers what specifically needs to be added. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] &lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]&lt;/sup&gt; 23:17, 11 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> I would like to join --{{Ani|133}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#008000;&quot;&gt;'''Darth'''&lt;/span&gt;]]{{Ani|196}}[[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;'''Cookie'''&lt;/span&gt;]]{{Ani|197}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster/Trade with Me|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;'''Monster'''&lt;/span&gt;]]{{Ani|471}} 08:46, 30 December 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I would also like to join. I watch Animal Planet all the time, so I could fing real-life animals that are very much like some Pokemon.{{Ani|479}}[[User:Gizmo Guy|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#008000;&quot;&gt;'''Gizmo'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Gizmo Guy|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#008000;&quot;&gt;'''Guy'''&lt;/span&gt;]]{{Ani|474}} 09:19, 30 December 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Screenshots from the anime==<br /> I've noticed in a few articles, there are pictures of the Pokémon under the '''In the anime''' heading. Should there be screenshots of all Pokémon in the anime? I'd be more than happy to help with that if it's needed. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] 16:00, 30 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Basic Stats Radar Graph ==<br /> <br /> Yeah, I'm kinda posting this topic to vent some of my ideas on how to display information. In this one I'll focus on displaying the basic stats. The current system is the values, along with the horizontal bars. I personally thought of replacing it with a slightly more graphic way of displaying it: namely using radar-graphs. I've prepared some samples: [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/Democalyps/Misc/Bulbasaur.png Bulbasaur], [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/Democalyps/Misc/Ivysaur.png Ivysaur], [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/Democalyps/Misc/Venusaur.png Venusaur], [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/Democalyps/Misc/Charizard.png Charizard] and [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/Democalyps/Misc/Weedle.png Weedle]<br /> <br /> I personally am willing to create all the needed graphs, it's quite a quick process so I can get them all done on reasonably short term. Next to these would be a small table stating the exact values. The shapes of these, along with the size give a more visual indication of what kind of pokemon it is, status-wise. I've sorted them so, that the top half is defence/health, the bottom is speed and offensive power, left is special and the right is physical. Along with these graphs I suggest adding a bar, similar to those currently displayed on the pages, displaying the total of basic stats (i.e. all values added up); again along with the numeric value. The latter gives a good indication of the overall strength of that specific pokemon. I'm still working on how to properly format that one though; the maximum total can run up to 720 (Arceus); a width or height of 720px is a bit too much. ^^;<br /> <br /> As for the base-stats of the Red, Blue and Yellow games (where Sp.Atk and Sp. Def haven't been seperated yet); since it's only 151 extra graphs, I wouldn't mind creating and adding a secondary graph for those pokemon.<br /> <br /> As for the format of the images; The ones I made are just proto-types, but I reckoned this size and colour would make a nice, neat and neutral-looking graph. This is, however, open to discussion. =3<br /> <br /> <br /> On a final, slightly unrelated note, I personally feel the type advantage thing could just as well be taken away. Since the special/physical deviations of the types have been taken out, the current information is pretty much stating the obvious. A quick glance at a type-chart can give you the exact same information. Clearing them out will remove the in my humble opinion rather annoying page-stretching.<br /> <br /> So... Yeah ^^ I'd like to become a part of this Pokedex project and would like to hear how you all feel about this and whether or not you want me to start implementing the graphs.<br /> <br /> --[[User:Democalypse|Democalypse]] 23:11, 10 April 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ...I dunno, we already have them in bar form... And just looking at the type chart might cause someone to miss a double weakness or a double resistance, or a neutralization effect. --'''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;E&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 00:09, 11 April 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> Yeah, but the bars don't really show how the values relate to eachother on the whole. Plus, the bars tend to take up a lot of space and stretch the page (which really damages the neatness of the page as a whole). The solution to the latter you addressed is simple: creating a third type chart along with the two we already have, in which we'll also include all presently existing dual-types. Basically what we have now is just stating the obvious, taking up space and stretching the page. X__x --[[User:Democalypse|Democalypse]] 22:56, 11 April 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Please keep the weaknesses/resistances on the individual Pokémon's pages. When deciding what to use against a particular opposing Pokémon, I go to that Pokémon's page and check the type effectiveness there. That's a lot easier than checking a type chart, and maybe forgetting 1 of the Pokémon's 2 types. [[User:Zurqoxn|Zurqoxn]] 23:05, 25 April 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Game data structure ==<br /> <br /> Since we have headings for the other formats, I suggest that the sections of game data we have go under a broad &quot;games&quot; heading. I'm particularly proposing that &quot;NPC appearances&quot; is a subheading of this and not locations, since an appearance isn't the same as a location.<br /> <br /> See this version of Bulbasaur's page: [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Bulbasaur_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29&amp;oldid=124619] --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] &lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]&lt;/sup&gt; 15:10, 19 April 2007 (UTC)<br /> :Sounds reasonable to me. Go right ahead. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] &lt;sup&gt;~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]]&lt;/sup&gt; 16:08, 19 April 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Wild levels ==<br /> <br /> I got this request on my talk page:<br /> :''Can you make a new template for Pokédex. It involves the use of telling users levels of which Pokémon are caught at e.g. Dialga. --[[User:Pokemongeniusscientist|Zywxn]]''<br /> I'm bringing it up here because, while it's an interesting idea, I'm not sure how it would work. It would certainly be easy to add to the Pokédex template for Dialga but some of the common wild Pokémon have levels all over the place. And even in the case of the legendaries, levels aren't consistent. For example, Ho-Oh is level 40 in Gold and level 70 in Silver. <br /> <br /> More importantly, is this a worthwhile venture? --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] &lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]&lt;/sup&gt; 23:41, 29 April 2007 (UTC)<br /> :I could see it as a possible extra column on the Game locations table. It can already be found on location articles, which the tables link to, but I suppose there's no good reason to keep it off the species articles. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] &lt;sup&gt;~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]]&lt;/sup&gt; 00:58, 30 April 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Hoenn numbers? ==<br /> <br /> I know they're in the data, but honestly, should we have the Hoenn Dex numbers for Pokémon like Bulbasaur, who aren't in the Hoenn Dex proper? After all, we don't have Bulbasaur's Sinnoh Dex number as 152... --'''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;E&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 23:57, 18 May 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :The Sinnoh Dex numbers for Bulbasaur etc. ''do not exist'', whereas the Hoenn Dex numbers do. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]]&lt;sub&gt;[[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]]&lt;/sub&gt; 06:00, 19 May 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I know, but still. Bulbasaur may be 203 technically, but you can't see them, except when you cheat to catch them in-game. --'''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;E&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 06:03, 19 May 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == About external links and fan shrines... ==<br /> <br /> I couldn't help but notice that within the Project Pokedex section, it is mentioned that Pokemon can receive not only wikipedia links but fan shrine links, too.<br /> <br /> Now, before I jumped ahead of myself, I checked a few of the obviously more popular Pokemon, like Eevee or Pikachu. You can't go wrong with that. What I noticed is that the only fan stuffs listed is fanlistings, though. While that's something, it is what it is... a list. Granted, Poke-centric (that is, non human) shrines seem to be hard to come by in the 'States for some reason.<br /> <br /> So, my question is, what would I have to do to get a fan shrine listed? Does there have to meet certain requirements? Is it necessary that it's a fanlisting? The site is in English, in case you're wondering. I know the ratio of Japanese artsy Poke-centric sites to US ones is extremely skewed in their favor, so I can see where that could be a concern, if a concern at all.<br /> --[[User:Nidorino|Nidorino]] 16:56, 25 May 2007 (UTC)<br /> :I would say in this matter, it's more quality that matters than notability. If you have a site that is good enough to be of interest to someone looking for some sort of information on the Pokémon - go ahead and add it. But if it's something that's low-quality and not useful, expect to see the link removed shortly after.<br /> :Also, I would rule that foreign language sites can also be included - but with stricter inclusion standards, at the bottom of the external links list, and with its language included in parentheses so people don't click expecting an English site and get something in a different language. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] &lt;sup&gt;~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]]&lt;/sup&gt; 18:03, 25 May 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Well, it's actually more interesting and for leisure than it is informational. I sorta made it both because I thought the Nidoran line was severely underappreciated and I got a little tired of the thousands of informational Pokemon sites but no fun multimedia ones. I suppose for what it's worth, it'll probably be really nice for any Pokemon fan since there's lots to see and do (for a Nido centric site, it's actually doing really well), I put a ''lot'' of work into it as well.<br /> <br /> ::The quality lies in the content, I go all out on what talents I have all for the sake of Nido Pokemon. There's also people who share the same idea, so a lot of contributions have come from people all over, it's probably ''one of'' the biggest Nido fan gatherings, which truthfully isn't a hard goal to aspire for considering the Pokemon in question. My main reasoning behind it, though, is that I just think that Nido fans shouldn't be left out of the picture, considering I know how hard it is to find anything interesting about them at all.<br /> <br /> ::So I guess what it comes down to is what one wants. It someone's trying to read hard facts, well, they could do that anywhere. But if someone's looking for something fun and different, that's the goal I want to accomplish. <br /> <br /> ::Would that still be okay?--[[User:Nidorino|Nidorino]] 18:17, 26 May 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Biology ==<br /> <br /> There's been a bit of controversy over the content in the biology section of {{p|Typhlosion}}'s article. It may be an idea to keep an eye over the stuff that goes in that section. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] &lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]&lt;/sup&gt; 23:13, 25 May 2007 (UTC)<br /> :... how in the world did we miss that? D: --[[User:Pie|Pie]] &lt;sup&gt;~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]]&lt;/sup&gt; 00:34, 26 May 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Diamond and Pearl Pokéradar==<br /> In relation to the Pokeradar in Daimond and Pearl. Should it be mentioned in the Rarity section like [[Nidoran♀ (Pokémon)]] or in the Location section like [[Venonat (Pokémon)]]. Just asking so that there can be some consistancy in the articles. [[User:Pterodactal|Pterodactal]] 08:44, 12 July 2007 (UTC)<br /> :Do we need to point out that the Pokéradar Pokémon are rare? If not, we have a free space to fit it in: <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;2&quot;<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #{{poison color}};&quot; <br /> ! Game<br /> ! [[Rarity]]<br /> ! Location<br /> |-<br /> | [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl]] || [[Pokéradar]] || [[Route 201]]<br /> |}<br /> :Otherwise, I prefer how Venonat looks. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] &lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]&lt;/sup&gt; 17:05, 6 August 2007 (UTC)<br /> :They aren't always rare. And I've been adding in an availability template to Pokémon pages:<br /> <br /> {{Availability|<br /> type=ice |<br /> gen=3 |<br /> rsrarity=Few |<br /> rsarea=[[Shoal Cave]] |<br /> erarity=Few |<br /> earea=[[Shoal Cave]] |<br /> dprarity=Rare |<br /> dparea=[[Route]]s {{rtn|216}} and {{rtn|217}}, [[Acuity Lakefront]] ([[Poké Radar]]) |<br /> }}<br /> <br /> That's what {{p|Snorunt}} has. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;E&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 01:07, 7 August 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I'm missing how that template affects the current issue. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] &lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]&lt;/sup&gt; 21:50, 9 August 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Thanks for the help. So what about those in the Trophy Garden but need the pokéradar to be found. Should this be mentioned in the location section as well as that they are found in the Trophy Garden? The question was raised when looking at the [[Meowth]] page.<br /> <br /> :Yes, it should mention on both pages. And the page is on {{p|Meowth}}, [[Meowth]] is a disambiguation page, so you'd better use the {{template|p}} template. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;E&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 18:22, 8 August 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::Ok but what about the PokéRadar in the Trophy Garden?[[User:Pterodactal|Pterodactal]] 10:03, 9 August 2007 (UTC)<br /> :::What do you mean? '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;E&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 00:08, 10 August 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::::All of the pokemon that change daily in the Trophy Garden eg Happiny, Porygon and Mime Jr. require Pokeradar to find. Should this be mentioned in the template's location section? [[User:Pterodactal|Pterodactal]] 06:34, 16 September 2007 (UTC)<br /> :::::Do they? If so, well, do like Snorunt. Put &quot;[[Trophy Garden]] ([[Poké Radar]])&quot; in the dparea thing. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;E&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 09:50, 16 September 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::::::The Trophy Garden Pokémon '''don't''' need Poké Radar. You just need to walk around a lot. - - - '''[[User:Dra2k4|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#00CC00;&quot;&gt;dra&lt;/span&gt;''&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;2&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;k&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;4&lt;/span&gt;'']]''' 09:20, 23 September 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> DONE THANKS GUYS [[User:Pterodactal|Pterodactal]] 11:26, 16 September 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Tiers==<br /> Might it be a good idea to create a category for each tier of Pokémon, as of Diamond/Pearl? It would be a bit easier for people to find out what tier their Pokémon is by just scrolling down, as opposed to navigating to the [[list of tiers]] page.<br /> :Well, I dunno, it's really more arbitrary than others. For example, I consider Gorebyss to be pretty good, but I've never used Skarmory. And let's not forget that the list of tiers is in need of cleanup; it seems pretty damn opinionated (and that's not because it says that Typhlosion is &quot;not recommended for use outside of its tier&quot;). After all, any Pokémon can be good if you can figure out how to make it that way. Heck, it's my opinion that the list of tiers is the same sort of &quot;we'll tell you how to play Pokémon and not let you have fun&quot; thing as that recommended movesets thing that was here a while back. Also, don't forget to sign comments with &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt;. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;E&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 02:23, 20 August 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::Whoops, sorry about that. Fair point I guess, but it might be handy for competitive players in particular kinds of battle, Never-Used for example. [[User:Blink|Blink]] 15:20, 22 August 2007 (UTC)<br /> :::True, but eh. We have many of their level-up movesets, and most of their learnable TMs and HMs listed, as well as their base stats. Itdoes take a bit of investigating, still, to see whether the move in question on their list is Physical or Special, though, but as for how to change this? Beats me...<br /> :::I do think, however, that that would be a better thing to do. Let people make up their own strategies, we'd possibly get more variety in teams. After all, I know that I figured out that Typhlosion wasn't as good with variety on my own, since it can barely learn any Special moves that aren't Fire, but it took me a bit of searching. I'm gonna do some experimenting in my sandbox about how to indicate the Physical/Special/Status moves in my sandbox. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;E&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 01:01, 23 August 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::::Are tiers just a fandom thing, or was there ever an official list published, even for RSE/FRLG etc?[[User:Blink|Blink]] 14:45, 28 August 2007 (UTC)<br /> &amp;larr;&lt;br&gt;<br /> Far as I know they're just a fandom thing. I've never seen an official Nintendo list that says, outright &quot;CATERPIE SUCKS NEVER EVER EVER USE IT.&quot; even if '''''everyone''''' knows this to be true. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;E&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 19:25, 28 August 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> So any pokemon can be useful eh? Weedle vs. T-Tar lol.<br /> :Nintendo hasn't said not, therefore, yes, Weedle vs Tyranitar is fine. Frickin' go for it. {{:User:TTEchidna/sig}} 03:33, 31 December 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Learnsets ==<br /> <br /> Okay, I know we'll all agree that other sites that indicate the type and category of a move on the Pokémon's page are helpful for quick lookers. Sure, we shouldn't add power, accuracy, PP, and all that, but at the very least the type and category of the move.<br /> <br /> [[User:TTEchidna/Sandbox/Bulbasaur|So this is what I've come up with for Bulbasaur]]. It still indicates STAB, if a person's too lazy to scroll up to see what types the Pokémon is, and for Gen IV, it indicates Physical/Special in addition to type so that a person can pick out moves depending on the stats of the Pokémon as well as its types.<br /> <br /> Thoughts? I certainly think that this could make the Pokémon pages much better than they are. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;E&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 09:45, 3 September 2007 (UTC)<br /> :I think you could be on to something here. It even looks a bit better, aesthetically speaking, than the current table. [[User:Blink|Blink]] 19:24, 4 September 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: Looks very nice. I feel sorry for you though, having to do that 492 more times. [[User:Zurqoxn|Zurqoxn]] 06:08, 5 September 2007 (UTC)<br /> :::Yeah... unless I get some help... '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;E&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 06:32, 5 September 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::::That's very good. I like the layout better than the current one, since it seems easier to read and clearly shows whether a move is physical, special or status. -[[User:DarkMazer|DarkMazer]] 03:37, 17 September 2007 (UTC)<br /> Now the best question. Wanna help me add them to all the rest?<br /> <br /> Also: I have a new, possibly more improved proposal. [[User:TTEchidna/Sandbox/Bulbasaur/Future|Check it out]]. This way, when we get Gen V, VI, VII, and so on... we won't have to move stuff around besides the current moveset. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;E&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 10:08, 17 September 2007 (UTC)<br /> : I like your design. *nod* I would say leave it as separate tables on the same pages for Gen V but when we get to Gen VI change it to separate pages altogether. Though that would be a lot of work of converting all the pages. Perhaps we should start changing the pages once we hear Gen VI will be released? (If it does :P)'''[[User:Dra2k4|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#00CC00;&quot;&gt;dra&lt;/span&gt;''&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;2&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;k&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;4&lt;/span&gt;'']]''' 19:58, 20 September 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::Wouldn't really be much work, per se, if we already have all of the movesets organized into those tables-within-tables like Bulbasaur and some others have. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;E&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 09:45, 23 September 2007 (UTC)<br /> :::So when can we get started on changing them? - - - '''[[User:Dra2k4|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#00CC00;&quot;&gt;dra&lt;/span&gt;''&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;2&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;k&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;4&lt;/span&gt;'']]''' 10:16, 23 September 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Body shape ==<br /> <br /> In GenIV, rather than by colour, Pokémon are able to be searched by a general body shape... Unfortunately, these categories are all symbols rather than names. This would make it hard to be included here, but I thought I'd put forth the idea anyway: Sort Pokémon by body shape, like we do with colour. The first thing, though, is that we'd have to come up with an agreeable standard on what each category should be named (since it doesn't do that for us). Just putting forth the idea for discussion, and whether or not the community thinks it would be useful. --[[User:DarkfireTaimatsu|DarkfireTaimatsu]] 04:36, 18 September 2007 (UTC)<br /> :We definately want to have some coverage on it but, as you say, it's going to be diffcult to implement. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] &lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]&lt;/sup&gt; 23:10, 11 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::So, anyone got any ideas for this? '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;TTE&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 02:05, 8 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> :::How about we get the sprites from the game for it? As for the category.. um.. &quot;Body Shape 1 Pokémon&quot;, etc? That's a suggestion I have. {{ani|281}}[[User:TinaTheKirlia|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#E75480;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF69B4;&quot;&gt;i&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F6ADC6;&quot;&gt;n&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFC0CB;&quot;&gt;a&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;sup&gt;[[User:TinaTheKirlia/Sandbox|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFC0CB;&quot;&gt;☆&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Favorites|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F6ADC6;&quot;&gt;♥&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF69B4;&quot;&gt;♫&lt;/span&gt;]]{{Ani|380}}&lt;/sup&gt; 03:06, 8 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::::But who'll say which is which? '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;TTE&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 05:43, 8 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Alternate Coloration ==<br /> <br /> I've been having plans for starting a subsection to the biology section that describes a Pokémon's alternate coloring. But the thing is, TinatheKirlia told me that such a subsection would be unnecessary because the sprite templates on each article. But I (was with TTEchidna, apparently) believe that describing what a Pokémon's shiny version looks like would be better.--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 20:10, 27 September 2007 (UTC)<br /> :It seems no more redundant than describing the normal form in the first place... --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] &lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]&lt;/sup&gt; 22:47, 11 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::Eh, I really think that there are more important things than telling what color a Pokémon is when shiny, but most especially since the sprites do so, and easily demonstrate the differences among the generations (Bulbasaur itself is tan in Gen II, but green with a dark green bulb in III and IV). '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;TTE&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 23:18, 11 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Sometimes the shiny colors (I think this is why) in GenII is because of the limitations of the GBC. Some simple colors, such as [[Red Gyarados]], stay but others such as Bulbasaur and Charizard get a little discolored, because of the limitations.<br /> :::I dunno, but that's my guess. [[User:TinaTheKirlia|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#E75480;&quot;&gt;Tina&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#E75480;&quot;&gt;The&lt;/span&gt;]][[Kirlia (Pokémon)|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#E75480;&quot;&gt;Kirlia&lt;/span&gt;]] ♥ [[Image:281MS.gif]] 23:33, 11 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::Sorry about that misunderstanding, TTE. I thought you were agreeing with me.--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 23:23, 12 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == pronunciation ==<br /> <br /> Just relizing that I had &quot;THE OFFICIAL Pokémon Handbook&quot; infront of me. I always hated not knowing how to say the names correctly and in this book it says how is it possible to add a section for the first genneration Pokémon. (That's the only handbook I currently have from my school library).--[[Image:Ani052MS.gif]][[Image:Ani300MS.gif]][[Image:Ani431MS.gif]][[User:kittenchild|&lt;span style=&quot;color: #4080FF&quot;&gt;kitten&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #204080&quot;&gt;child&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style=&quot;color: #000000&quot;&gt; and her &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #998969&quot;&gt;d&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #804020&quot;&gt;i&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #998969&quot;&gt;s&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #804020&quot;&gt;c&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #998969&quot;&gt;o&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #804020&quot;&gt;v&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #998969&quot;&gt;e&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #804020&quot;&gt;r&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #998969&quot;&gt;y&lt;/span&gt;]][[Image:Ani264MS.gif]]A.K.A. ねこさん 01:32, 26 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I have all of the series of those offical handbooks.................(but what does that have to do with Project Pokédex?????) --[[Image:Spr 3e 059.gif|70px]][[Image:Spr 3e 132.gif]]'''[[User:Theryguy512|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF7F00&quot;&gt;Theryguy&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA&quot;&gt;5&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA&quot;&gt;1&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Theryguy512/Games|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA&quot;&gt;2&lt;/span&gt;]]''' [[Image:Trozeiani025.gif]] 01:35, 26 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> well they have the pronunciation on every Pokémon shouldn't we put how to say the name of the Pokémon on their page?--[[Image:Ani052MS.gif]][[Image:Ani300MS.gif]][[Image:Ani431MS.gif]][[User:kittenchild|&lt;span style=&quot;color: #4080FF&quot;&gt;kitten&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #204080&quot;&gt;child&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style=&quot;color: #000000&quot;&gt; and her &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #998969&quot;&gt;d&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #804020&quot;&gt;i&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #998969&quot;&gt;s&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #804020&quot;&gt;c&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #998969&quot;&gt;o&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #804020&quot;&gt;v&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #998969&quot;&gt;e&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #804020&quot;&gt;r&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #998969&quot;&gt;y&lt;/span&gt;]][[Image:Ani264MS.gif]]A.K.A. ねこさん 01:39, 26 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Most people know how to say it......but it's an idea........--[[Image:Spr 3e 059.gif|70px]][[Image:Spr 3e 132.gif]]'''[[User:Theryguy512|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF7F00&quot;&gt;Theryguy&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA&quot;&gt;5&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA&quot;&gt;1&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Theryguy512/Games|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA&quot;&gt;2&lt;/span&gt;]]''' [[Image:Trozeiani025.gif]] 02:00, 26 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I say this because I'm always fighting with my bro (who is 24) about how to say kyogre<br /> He says it as if it was katakana and I disagree.--[[Image:Ani052MS.gif]][[Image:Ani300MS.gif]][[Image:Ani431MS.gif]][[User:kittenchild|&lt;span style=&quot;color: #4080FF&quot;&gt;kitten&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #204080&quot;&gt;child&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style=&quot;color: #000000&quot;&gt; and her &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #998969&quot;&gt;d&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #804020&quot;&gt;i&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #998969&quot;&gt;s&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #804020&quot;&gt;c&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #998969&quot;&gt;o&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #804020&quot;&gt;v&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #998969&quot;&gt;e&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #804020&quot;&gt;r&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #998969&quot;&gt;y&lt;/span&gt;]][[Image:Ani264MS.gif]]A.K.A. ねこさん 02:03, 26 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :It would be a useful addition to the infoboxes. The main question is if there is an official source for beyond the first generation. (Since some people insist that the dub pronounces things wrong for some reason.) I know we got Bonsly confirmed from PUSA but not of any source for the rest. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] &lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]&lt;/sup&gt; 23:21, 27 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> well I have the handbooks of the second generation, and the third generation as well. --[[Image:Spr 3e 059.gif|70px]][[Image:Spr 3e 132.gif]]'''[[User:Theryguy512|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF7F00&quot;&gt;Theryguy&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA&quot;&gt;5&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA&quot;&gt;1&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Theryguy512/Games|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA&quot;&gt;2&lt;/span&gt;]]''' [[Image:Trozeiani025.gif]] 00:01, 28 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> :I usually pronounce Kyogre as Kai-oh-great (minus the t at the end). But the anime is Kai-oh-ge... {{:User:Optimus35/sig}} 13:52, 30 December 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == R/S sprites ==<br /> <br /> I know you guys aren't done uploading them, but are we gonna do the R/S sprites? Even though we have the Emerald ones... the R/S ones are half distracting. I dunno, just wondering.. {{User:TinaTheKirlia/Sig}} 19:06, 4 December 2007 (UTC)<br /> :All sprites means ''all'' of 'em. The only problem I see us running into is the shiny Emerald sprites. {{:User:TTEchidna/sig}} 19:19, 4 December 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Shadow ==<br /> <br /> So um... where should we put info on the Shadow Pokémon? Probably under Game info, or Game locations.. {{User:TinaTheKirlia/Sig}} 21:54, 17 December 2007 (UTC)<br /> :That'd be a good idea, as a subsection of that. Like...<br /> <br /> :Probaly under Game Info..... &lt;span style=&quot;background:#5CDDFF&quot;&gt;[[Image:Ani234MS.gif]][[User:Theryguy512|&lt;span style= color:#FF0000&gt;M&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style= color:#177245&gt;E&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style= color:#FF0000&gt;R&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style= color:#177245&gt;R&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style= color:#FF0000&gt;Y&lt;/span&gt;]] [[Image:Ani385MS.gif]] [[User talk:Theryguy512|&lt;span style= color:#177245&gt;C&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style= color:#FF0000&gt;H&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style= color:#177245&gt;R&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style= color:#FF0000&gt;I&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style= color:#177245&gt;S&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style= color:#FF0000&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style= color:#177245&gt;M&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style= color:#FF0000&gt;A&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style= color:#177245&gt;S&lt;/span&gt;]][[Image:Ani225MS.gif]]&lt;/span&gt; 23:55, 17 December 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ===Shadow (name)===<br /> In (Colo/XD) a [[Shadow Pokémon|Shadow]] (name) can be found in (location), trained by (trainer). Its moves are (moves) and, when purified, it learns (moves).<br /> <br /> {{:User:TTEchidna/sig}} 22:03, 17 December 2007 (UTC)<br /> :We already have this information. The location table notes which Pokémon are shadow and the moves are noted under the moveset heading. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] &lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]&lt;/sup&gt; 23:45, 17 January 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Size and Weight ==<br /> <br /> Hello, I'd like to discuss about the weight and size of Pokémon we display in the pokédex pages, I think they should be there, but they are not. (if they are and I don't see it, please notice me :-])<br /> what do you think?<br /> [[User:MewUser|MewUser]] 11:32, 10 February 2008 (UTC)</div>

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<p>MewUser: New section: Size and Weight</p> <hr /> <div>==Movesets==<br /> Just a thought, should we add movesets to each Pokémon page? Maybe it could be a subproject. Also, should would add the Serebii.net Pokédex to the infobox? Should Move Tutor moves be on each Pokémon? -coppro<br /> <br /> To Move List, we're getting there. But that's not a critical project yet, we have bigger things to do.<br /> <br /> To Serebii dex, no, we only link to our affiliates. Serebii is not one of them, nor is his Dex all that accurate from personal experience.<br /> <br /> To Move Tutor, yep. It counts as a learnable move. [[User:Evkl|Evkl]] 00:37, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Why don't we have Serebii as an affiliate? They've greatly improved their Dex recently, too. - hey-nahny-nahny-and-a-hey-ha-ha<br /> <br /> If you knew about all the bad blood between myself (and by association, this site) and Joe (and by association, his site, Serebii.net), you wouldn't be asking that question. ^^; --[[User:Archaic|Archaic]] 07:18, 4 October 2005 (CDT)<br /> <br /> I'm new to bulbapedia, very interested in helping out, and have a ton of time to kill coming up soon. I was thinking of starting to mass update Pokemon Movelists. I'm planning on effectively copying over the moveset list of Bulbasaur and correcting the fields. <br /> <br /> I'd also like to add a section of &quot;ways to acquire move&quot; for moves other than leveling up such as breeding or TM/Tutor only. Is there a sample pokemon I can show my potential designs for this on? --- [[User:Bouldersnap|Bouldersnap]] 04:44, 12 December 2006 (EST)<br /> <br /> :We'd be glad to have your help. Generally, we like to avoid having people experiment on main articles; it would be for the best if you could demonstrate your idea here, or in the [[Bulbapedia:Sandbox]]. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] &lt;sup&gt;~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]]&lt;/sup&gt; 22:02, 12 December 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I want to become a participant also [[User:Ivysaur|Ivysaur]] 18:07, 15 Januari 2007 (GMT)<br /> <br /> == My mistake ==<br /> <br /> Thanks for that!<br /> About the move tutor, I didn't see it on the bulba page the first time, but I see it now. My mistake! [[User:Coppro|Coppro]] 00:42, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I can help with card text, if anyone needs. Mostly the older sets.--BJ<br /> <br /> ==Pokémon Information==<br /> <br /> The Pokémon pages would benefit from information as a species. I am unsure how would be best to go about this. It's no secret that the best place to get information on a Pokémon from would be the game Pokédexes, now we could do a few things:<br /> <br /> *Have subheadings for each Pokédex entry from games.<br /> *Have a single long paragraph with the text from all the Pokédexes mushed together.<br /> *Have a single long paragraph, totally re-written but taking bits of information from Pokédex entries.<br /> <br /> I personally would go for the last one. What do you lot think? - [[User:Ferret|Ferret]] 03:56, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Why is no one replying to this to give their opinion? I believe individual species background is a very important part of Pokémon and what makes it special from other creature-training games. I did not want to go ahead and add things when it's not what is wanted or required. - [[User:Ferret|Ferret]] 03:20, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Having no clue what you mean by it, I suggest you make a sample set of edits and see how people respond to it. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]]&lt;sub&gt;[[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]]&lt;/sub&gt; 04:09, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> First one should be included anyways, maybe third as well. Definitely not the second. - [[User:Jshadias|Jshadias]] 04:18, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Zhen Lin: It should be obvious really, the Pokémon pages do not cover information about species themseleves yet, only statistical stuff and name origins, the first goal for the Pokédex Project is &quot;'''Expand Pokémon pages to have at least a paragraph of information about a Pokémon, preferably background information on that Pokémon.'''&quot; I'm trying to bring up some ideas to help achieve this goal. - [[User:Ferret|Ferret]] 04:41, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Movelists ==<br /> <br /> ''Add all Generation III movelists to both /GenIII pages and the main page of a Pokémon.''<br /> :Why put the same information in two places, especially when it is just going to be moved when Generation IV is released? - [[User:Jshadias|Jshadias]] 04:04, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Ease of deletion--you don't need to move everything over with the advent of GenIV. [[User:Evkl|evkl]] 10:34, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I reformatted the &quot;By Breeding&quot; move list for Squirtle. I do hope I did it correctly. However just in case I didn't, I have the old version saved on my computer. I hope I helped. - Canopydouble 10:44, 2 December 2007 (EST)<br /> <br /> == The Infobox ==<br /> <br /> Shouldn't Pokémon heights and weights from the game Pokédex be added to the InfoBox - [[User:MTC|MTC]]<br /> :I think you're right... hoo, boy, it's going to be ''fun'' adding all those heights and weights, though. Especially since there's the English feet-inches-pounds versus (what I believe is originally used) the good ol' metric system. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 23:26, 9 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Locations==<br /> <br /> Would you like me to add game locations to each Pokémon's page? Please tell me what you think of the table on the [[Pikachu (Pokémon)|Pikachu]] page. [[User:Fabu-Vinny|Fabu-Vinny]] 12:51, 22 May 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Anime information and Manga information ==<br /> <br /> These headings should be something like &quot;In the anime&quot; and &quot;In manga&quot;, similar to the current &quot;In the TCG&quot; header. - [[User:Jshadias|Jshadias]] 07:34, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)<br /> <br /> While on the topic of Anime Information, I'd like to see someone else besides me adding Anime Information more often. Please?--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 00:30, 9 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Pokédex Data and TCG Pages==<br /> <br /> Already on it. Go check out my [[User:Doug_teh_H-Nut|user page]] and see what all I've added in. I'd appreciate it if someone could put in the data that I haven't.<br /> <br /> I think that each card should have its own page. I just want to know, how should we go about it? What should we name the pages, say something like [[Beedrill #17 (TCG)]] for the Base One Beedrill? --[[User:Doug_teh_H-Nut|Doug teh H-Nut]]<br /> <br /> I see that the Pokédex Data from Stadium 2 needs to be added, but I believe it's the same data as in Gold. Anyone with the game with them wanna check? --[[User:PikamasterADV|PikamasterADV]] 22:22, 9 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Is there even Pokédex data in Colosseum and XD? I don't think there is (not 100% sure) but if not, it should be deleted from the Pokédex template. --[[User:Mudkiplover56|Mudkiplover56]] 23:36, 3 May 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ===TCG Pokédex entries?===<br /> Should they be just part of {{bp|Project TCGDex}}, or be included in the data here? '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;E&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 00:08, 8 August 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == As a Species? ==<br /> <br /> What gives? If this project is meant to classify Pokemon as a species, then why doesn't it? There are stats, yes, but the Wikipedia page on Pikas doesn't list those facts, does it? Listen, I worked hard on a Pikachu entry for Wikipedia, as follows:<br /> <br /> &lt;nowiki&gt;<br /> ==Biology== A Pikachu (plural also Pikachu) is a ground-dwelling mammal belonging to a subspecies of [[rodent]]s including itself, it's evolutions, [[Plusle]], [[Minun]], and possibly undiscovered others, although pikachu are by far the most well known. Pikachu have short, yellow fur with brown stripes on its back, black-tipped ears, along with an unusually shaped tail, resembling a lightning bolt. They are often found in forests, plains, and occasionally near electrical sources, on most continents throughout the world. It is also a popular pet, and relatively easy to maintain, with little exercise necessary for it's well being, although periodic electric discharge is extremely important. Pikachu are known to have acute senses of hearing, thanks to its large ears. Most domestic pikachu are very intelligent, understanding and interpreting human [[speech]] at levels far surpassing those of any pet [[dog]]. Pikachu can be harmful [[pests]], eating and sometimes destroying telephone poles, wires, and other electronic equipment. In communities found near wooded areas, it is not uncommon for a pikachu to sometimes show up under or near houses, presumably attracted by the electrical output generated by the dwellers' appliances. <br /> <br /> ===Diet=== Living in wooded areas, pikachu often are found foraging for berries. Instead of climbing trees, they use small electrical shocks to release the berries from the tree, roasting them at the same time. As pets, they can be fed a variety of processed food, available at many pet stores. Alternatively, pikachu are tolerant to most &quot;human&quot; food, and sometimes enjoy it more then the more nutritional food designed for their biology. <br /> <br /> ===Electrical Abilities=== Exclusive to the Pikachu's subspecies is the obvious ability to release electric discharges of varying intensity, at will, through glandular pouches residing in its cheeks. These glands allow it to store and release a unique form of chemical energy, which can be released in bolts of lightning or [[ball lightning]] to defend itself from attackers, to cook food, to be used in battle, at the command from it's trainer, or in self-defense in the wild. Pikachu are rarely known to purposefully attack others besides the aforementioned, but particularly aggressive pikachu have been recorded. Pikachu often travel in packs, and are rarely territorial. However, when threatened, a group can generate an intense electrical offensive, and the electro-magnetic forces exerted by the resulting field can even produce a short lived, localized thunderstorm. As pikachu build up energy in their electricity glands, it is often needed to discharge, as to not result in a short, or worse, which can lead to physical [[Paralysis ]], or in severe cases, death. Pikachu release the built-up energy through their tail, which acts as a grounding rod, to safely remove unneeded energy. A sure sign to tell if a location is inhabited by pikachu (or a member of its subspecies) is to look for patches of burnt grass, which is the result of the discharge. Through an inability to release a buildup of electricity, a pikachu may develop a rare condition, very similar to the human [[flu]]. This illness is most often caused by strong nearby electro-magnetic forces, which severely impact the electric glands. If a pikachu is introduced to a magnet, it will be attracted towards its cheeks, and display other common attributes of [[magnetism]].&lt;/nowiki&gt;<br /> <br /> Good, no? I'd be willing to write comprehensive facts on ''every'' pokemon, but first, I must ask, is this acceptable, or are you fine with figures and charts? A disgrace, I say! Pokemon as a species means treating them as real, living creatures!<br /> <br /> Again, I would be fine with writing articles like this on ''all'' pokemon, even if I was the ''only'' one writing them. Hell, I think I'd prefer it that way. So, would everyone be fine with that? I'm gonna go ahead and add this to Pikachu's Page, ok?<br /> <br /> [[User:Supermariorobot|Supermariorobot]] 04:15, 5 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> :I'm fine with it, and think it's great. The more the better, not everything has to be hard mechanical game information. It's the fluff that makes the Pokemon universe go 'round anyway. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 04:20, 5 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Nice. So, I guess I'm in charge of this? Or would I need to ralk to an Admin? [[User:Supermariorobot|Supermariorobot]] 04:21, 5 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Like it's said on Wikipedia: be bold. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 04:27, 5 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::LET ALL KNOW THIS!!!! I, Supermariorobot, am in charge of writing Biological discription of Pokemon as a species! w007! [[User:Supermariorobot|Supermariorobot]] 04:32, 5 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::Is there somewhere I should put this on the site, besides here? [[User:Supermariorobot|Supermariorobot]] 04:38, 5 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Not the worst idea we've ever had, but take note of some of the edits I've made on the Pikachu article itself. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 05:42, 5 July 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Supermariobot, you have come up with an excellent idea. The articles for other well-known Pokémon like Bulbasaur will be easy to update. However, I wish you good luck in trying to find such comprehensive information for the newer, lesser-known Pokémon, such as Vespiquen or Pachirisu. And the legendaries will be even harder to produce information for. :) [[User:Pokéball|Pokéball]] 15:53, 10 July 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Type effectiveness ==<br /> <br /> All Pokémon pages have a section called, &quot;Type effectiveness&quot;. Currently the [[Template:Type effectiveness|Template]] used for &quot;Later versions&quot; reflects &quot;the average physical/special ratio&quot;. For [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|Diamond and Pearl]] it has already been revealed that whether an attack is physical or special will be determined individually for each attack instead of based on what attack type it is. This means that the physical/special ratio no longer applies to type effectiveness. There needs to be another section that does not reflect the physical/special ratio. I would like to know how we should go about doing this. [[User:Drapion|Drapion]] 00:33, 7 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I was working on this but got confused. Can someone explain this? At first I thought that the bar meant how well an attack from other PKMN with that type would do, but it turns out that it's a measure of STAB as if this PKMN were using an attack of that type or what? [[User:Gambler|Gambler]] 06:30, 29 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::The type effectiveness is how effective a type of that element would be against the Pokémon. For example, against Onix, Water is x4 (400 on the graph), Ground is x2 (200 on the graph), Psychic is x1 (100 on the graph), Flying is x0.5 (50 on the graph), Poison is x0.25 (25 on the graph). But the system we have was designed for when the Defense and Special Defense also came into play for this. Even before the DP changes, the section was badly explained and the visuals were unuseful and caused page stretching problems (though this problem has been reduced in the new system, it still exists for screens with low resolutions). I think a better system needs to be designed and implemented. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 06:44, 29 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Oh, I see. Let me give it a thing over the night and I'll try something in the Sanbox tomorrow. Thanks Pie! [[User:Gambler|Gambler]] 06:50, 29 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::Idea! Now that was quick! How about replaceing it for a &quot;Damage Ratio&quot; table? it should have a column for every type and 2 rows, one for Physical and other for Special. Inside each cell goes the effect of that type of attack with that kind of interaction. Onix Ex.<br /> <br /> {| border=1<br /> | ||PKMN Def || Normal || Grass || Rock ||<br /> |-<br /> |Physical || 160 || <br /> |-<br /> |Special || 45 || <br /> |}<br /> <br /> == Style issues ==<br /> Or Bulbapedia feng shui. Believe it or not, Bulbapedia was discussed in the #bulbagarden chat. Wow. Anyway, besides a general consensus that more useful information should be added than the Name origin information and the articles really need fleshing out in a lot of ways, some thoughts about the style of the Pokémon species articles came up, and since I have a backbone, I'm the one who's sharing what those thoughts were.<br /> * Apparently, the Type effectiveness is not being well received. Others have told me it's ugly and not particularly informative. Why was it added? Does it need to be kept, or could it be removed, or replaced with a more stylish alternative?<br /> * The Name origins are not being considered particularly factual, interesting, useful information either. These may be better moved down to the Other information section, perhaps even as two subsections under Trivia (since, despite the fact that it's unrelated to the name, speculation on design inspirations are usually included under Name origin).<br /> * Appearances may fit better before the Game information, rather than after. In general, it will help the flow of articles if sections with tables are moved below sections with text.<br /> The majority of these are not my own suggestions, though I understand the thought process behind each point and think that this major reorganizing is worth consideration, particularly since I've just started working to organize the articles anyway. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 08:57, 11 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Here's what I think should be done: The RBY Type Effectiveness section should be removed, because the information is only useful to a small number of people. If that's too extreme for some people, then a small section detailing the differences in RBY should be added as part of the current Type Effectiveness section. Secondly, the Type Effectiveness sections should not take into account the physical/special ratio because it won't apply in Diamond/Pearl, and because Pokémon with lower special defense have bars that extend far beyond the edge of the page. [[User:Drapion|Drapion]] 15:03, 12 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::That's certainly true. I mean, one only has to take a look at {{p|Rhyhorn}}'s type effectiveness section to see the problem with the current style. Perhaps we should only indicate x1/4, x1/2, x2, and x4 type effectivenesses, and then how more or less effective a physical attack is compared to a special attack - if anyone still can't figure out which attacks would be best for them to use, then clearly they need to start using a calculator more frequently. (Which, conveniently enough, will be part of the Pokétchi or whatever it's called.) --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 19:52, 12 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ===Style issues take 2===<br /> All right, the revised layout has been up on the project page for a while. Now, '''does anyone have any questions, comments, or concerns regarding this layout?''' If no one has any changes they'd like to see to this layout, I think it's about time we set to work organizing all the articles and adding in the appropriate sections. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 23:52, 24 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> :Last call for comments. Otherwise, reorganization will begin. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 23:26, 26 August 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Evo boxes ==<br /> <br /> I think we should standardize the sprites that we put there, perhaps changing all of them to ###.png, since we know the National Dex numbers to them all now. Then, it'd be easier to do, or even to use the images on userpages for the teams, like I do. Plus, I've noticed we need to get images for all 493 of them now. I've set up a template, [[Template:sp]], which sets a sprite at (whatever is linked after the vertical pipe).png. For example, you could do &lt;nowiki&gt;{{&lt;/nowiki&gt;sp|001&lt;nowiki&gt;}}&lt;/nowiki&gt;, and you'd come up with the sprite for Bulbasaur, {{sp|001}}.<br /> <br /> It'd work well, too, for Pokémon we haven't got numbers for yet, when Generation V comes around... All you'd need to do is input the name instead, then change the sprite to a number-based one when the National numbers were revealed.<br /> <br /> Also, are we going to change all of the sprites that we have for RSE to DP ones now for all of the oldies as well as having DP sprites for the new guys? [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 08:49, 7 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Personally, I don't think there's that much of a graphical difference between the GBA and DS sprites, but if anyone wants to take the time doing it - feel free. A lot of Pokemon are actually missing evo boxes and sprites, actually. That and level-up moves seem to be the things missing from the most pages. --[[User:Zeta|Zeta]] 08:52, 7 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I personally would like that entire archive revamped. Every single DS Pokemon sprite, both genders (where applicable, if not, then all the females mostly), all in PNG format. Right now, it's incomplete... I'd be glad to help if we undertake such a little image project. [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 10:34, 7 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I think we should go for the DS sprites. There is a difference, and you can see it when you compare the sprites of the larger ones - the GBA sprites are 64x64, while the DS sprites are 80x80. The larger sprites means an improved quality. (Changing the evo-chart boxes might be a good idea, though, since they're constructed with the smaller 64x64 sprites in mind.)<br /> :Also, standardization and templates are good. The less sloppy Bulbapedia is, the better. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 18:09, 7 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I put up the Houndour and Houndoom sprites from pearl/ diamond if you want to see how it looks in the boxes. --[[User:Link3710|Link3710]] October 8 0:50<br /> <br /> Now, the real issue: do we take the animated versions? Do we do the second or first frame? I noticed that for most of the sprites we take the second frame of the Emerald ones.<br /> <br /> Also, we'll need to take a roll call of those still in need of the evoboxes, then those still in need of sprites, and some of the Shin'ō natives still don't have their National number, or Shin'ō number (if it's applicable) in their box.<br /> <br /> ...I also have to wonder, is it possible to introduce past sprites to the articles? Like, for Charizard's article, having all of the sprites so far, including animated ones for Crystal, Emerald, and D/P? That way, when a new version comes out, we can just move the previous sprites to that old sprite section. [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 02:00, 8 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> :We've considered having sprite sections before, I think, but never decided on the best way to do it. As for finding out who needs what, there's only one easy way to do it - go through each article one by one... --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 02:14, 8 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> For the record, I fully support having a &quot;Sprites and Other Artwork&quot; section on every Pokemon's page near the bottom featuring a collection of Sugimori artwork from every gen they've been in, all the sprites, and line-art or screen-caps from the anime where applicable. --[[User:Zeta|Zeta]] 05:52, 8 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ===Sprite suggestion===<br /> I don't know WHY we used the second frame/Emerald's, as some of them look pretty bad intermediate sprites. What we should do is make a sprite archive, separate them into 4 subpages by Generation, and get every single sprite, the GBC versions for the old ones, and name them as follows:<br /> *The first 2 letters could be the generation and version, the next 3 the number, then a 'b' if a back sprite, if we have those, and an 's' at the end if shiny Example:<br /> **Japanese Red/Green would be '1g'<br /> **Japanese Blue/English Red/Blue would be '1b'<br /> **Yellow version's sprites would be '1y'<br /> **Gold would be '2g', Silver '2s', Crystal's animations '2c'<br /> ***A Charmander from Japanese Red would be '1g004'<br /> ***A Bulbaaur from Gold would be '2g001'<br /> ***A Shiny Squirtle from Silver would be '2s007s'<br /> ***An Unown from Crystal in the form of B would be '2c201-B'<br /> *For Gen III:<br /> **Ruby and Sapphire's 'rs'<br /> **FireRed and LeafGreen's 'fl'<br /> **Emerald's animations: 'em'<br /> ***A Shiny Unown from Emerald in the from of a '?' (_ for the ?) would be 'em201-_s'<br /> ***An Attack Deoxys from FireRed would be 'fl386-A'<br /> *And for Diamond and Pearl:<br /> **First 2 letters would be 'dp', then the next 3 the number '###', then an 'm', 'f', or 'g' for the gender, a 'b' if a back, and an 's' if it's shiny.<br /> ***Male Venusaur: 'dp003m'<br /> ***Female Shiny Mr. Mime: 'dp122fs'<br /> <br /> If this sounds too complicated, or just stupid, please comment XP. Note that I will help this project if it's decided we do it, I'm good at wiki-formatting, and can really help with the sprites. Oh, and by the way, the animated sprites are going to be ripped soon. Cheers. [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 07:51, 8 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> :It is a complex code, but a comprehendable one, assuming we type up a guide for it and add it to some sub-page of the Project Pokédex page - even I had a bit of trouble following it as a list. ^^o Also, I think perhaps &quot;sprite&quot; or even just &quot;spr&quot; should be added to the front of the names, just in case someone looking over the filenames such as in the Recent Changes doesn't look over the list and just think &quot;Bzuh?&quot; Descriptive filenames are usually good. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 18:57, 8 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> What about all the pokemon that don't get new sprites in Fire Red/Leaf Green? Also Gold and Silver backs are the same so you only need to have one. --[[User:Link3710|Link3710]] 22:53, 8 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I agree with 'spr', Pie. Link3710: The Gold and Silver sprites were indeed different, and we wouldn't add duplicates for the sprites that are the same in FireRed/LeafGreen. Only the first 151 and Teddiursa (for some reason) were changed from R/S/E. [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 23:59, 8 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :The fronts were different for Gold and silver sprites but not the backs just check it out if you have both. So is the code going to be sprgg###esb-x where g=game #=national dex number e=gender s=shiny b=back and x=anything else?<br /> <br /> ::Yes, and I believe Crystal used the same back sprites as well.<br /> ::*spr(gg)(###)[e][-x][b][s].png<br /> ::[[User:DanPMK|MK]] 16:19, 9 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::so for gsc back sprites should we use gsc instead of 2g 2s and 2c? Anyhow if noone disagrees with this I already have bulbasaur through blastoise ready and named according to this.--[[User:Link3710|Link3710]] 16:46, 9 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::I realized all generations have the same back sprites so we might as well just use the generation number for back sprites. Anyhow if anyone has any suggestions please make them now.--[[User:Link3710|Link]] 20:16, 12 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::We need underscores, as I just renamed the bulk of my sprites to this formula and they look better. How's this?<br /> :::{| border=1<br /> ! Game/Gen <br /> ! Sprite<br /> ! Status<br /> |- <br /> |Red/Green (J)<br /> |'''spr_1g_###'''<br /> |[http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Category:Pok%C3%A9mon_Red_and_Green_sprites Complete] <br /> |-<br /> |Blue (J) &amp; Red/Blue (E)<br /> |'''spr_1b_###''' <br /> |[http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Category:Pok%C3%A9mon_Red_and_Blue_sprites Complete]<br /> |-<br /> |Yellow<br /> |'''spr_1y_###'''<br /> |[http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Category:Pok%C3%A9mon_Yellow_sprites Complete]<br /> |-<br /> |Gen I back<br /> |'''spr_b_g1_###''' <br /> |[http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Category:Generation_I_back_sprites Complete]<br /> |-<br /> | colspan=3 | &lt;hr&gt;<br /> |-<br /> |Gold<br /> |'''spr_2g_###[_s]''' <br /> |[http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Category:Pokémon_Gold_sprites Complete] with [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Category:Pokémon_Gold_sprites_(shiny) Shiny]<br /> |-<br /> |Silver<br /> |'''spr_2s_###[_s]'''<br /> |[http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Category:Pokémon_Silver_sprites Complete] with [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Category:Pokémon_Silver_sprites_(shiny) Shiny]<br /> |-<br /> |Crystal (anim)<br /> |'''spr_2c_###[_s]''' <br /> |?<br /> |-<br /> |Gen II back<br /> |'''spr_b_g2_###[_s]''' <br /> |?<br /> |-<br /> | colspan=3 | &lt;hr&gt;<br /> |-<br /> |&lt;s&gt;Ruby/Sapphire&lt;/s&gt;<br /> |&lt;s&gt;'''spr_3r_###[_s]'''&lt;/s&gt;<br /> |&lt;s&gt;?&lt;/s&gt;<br /> |-<br /> |Fire/Red (1-151 + 216)<br /> |'''spr_3f_###[_s]'''<br /> |?<br /> |-<br /> |Emerald (anim)<br /> |'''spr_3e_###[_s]'''<br /> |[http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Category:Pokémon_Emerald_sprites Missing 28] / Shiny not<br /> |-<br /> |Gen III back<br /> |'''spr_b_g3_###[_s]'''<br /> |[http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Category:Generation_3_back_sprites Missing 3]<br /> |-<br /> | colspan=3 | &lt;hr&gt;<br /> |-<br /> |Diamond/Pearl<br /> |'''spr_4d_###[_g][_s]'''<br /> |?<br /> |-<br /> |Gen IV back<br /> |'''spr_b_g4_###[_g][_s]''' <br /> |?<br /> |-<br /> | colspan=3 | &lt;hr&gt;<br /> |-<br /> | colspan=3 | [_g] is gender for 4th gen sprites&lt;br&gt; [_s] is shiny for 2nd+ gen sprites<br /> |-<br /> | colspan=3 | &lt;hr&gt;<br /> |-<br /> | colspan=3 | -a at the end (but before _s) for Unown's letter&lt;br&gt;&lt;s&gt;-# at the end (but before _s) for Spinda's variant&lt;/s&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;sub&gt;Scrath that, too many variants&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;br&gt;-[weather] (sun/rain/hail) at the end (but before _s) for Castform's forms&lt;BR&gt; -[form] at the end (but before _s) for Deoxys's form&lt;br&gt;-[type] at the end (but before _s) for Minomutchi/madam's 2nd type&lt;br&gt;-[region] at the end (but before _s) for Karanakushi/Toritodon's region&lt;br&gt;-[type] at the end (but before _s) for Arseus's type<br /> |} [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 07:49, 13 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Now here's the thing: do we animate the sprites as they are in the game, or do we just use the second frame? It'd be weird just to have them flash between the two frames, since most of them do something else as well... Should we just use the second frame?<br /> <br /> I do like the system for naming the images, though. And they are all going to be .png, right? Except for the animated ones, if we do that. Would we have to make a .swf if we were to animate the Emerald ones? COULD we imbed a .swf into the page? I know the Crystal ones don't do much besides frame changes, but Emerald ones rotate, bounce... all sorts of things.<br /> <br /> Also, for Unown's letter, for ? and !, can we use those in the filename? Maybe for ? it could be qm and ! it can be em, so it doesn't interfere with the letters. Then if there's any more in future generations, they can be at things like pe for a period, co for a comma... and so on.<br /> <br /> Of course, to make things easier for the sprite boxes, should we keep them as ###.png, for the latest-generation sprites, and have those as well be at the other thing for when they're replaced with whatever comes next? I think it'd make things a lot easier, and we'd not have to change the evo boxes every generation. Because, really, when Gen V comes along, we'll have 493 to change, and then at least 100 more to add. [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 19:03, 13 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I THINK we could do the animations as gif, and that could work. Also the full Crystal sprites have more than two frames, Venasaur has 27 frames if captured fully. About the evo boxes they take about two seconds if all we have to change is the number so we don't neccessarily need double images. --[[User:Link3710|Link]] 19:39, 13 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Still images would be PNG, animated images would be GIF. For Unown's ! form, '!' can be used in a file name, but ? cannot, so 'em' is fine. For Gen V, they might end up using the same sprites. If so, we'll just add the new ones. As for Emerald's animations, they have been ripped in .gif format perfectly. Example: [[Image:Spr_3e_001.gif]] [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 21:07, 13 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::For backs do we even need the _b since the generation part is different.--[[User:Link3710|Link]] 19:20, 14 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::You're right, we should use a different thing for backs, like '''spr_b_g#_###[_s]'''. That way, all the backs are near eachother on the list. Oh, and with the emerald animations, the Ruby/Sapphire sprites are unecessary. [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 10:26, 15 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Even if its just '''spr_g#_###[_s]''' they'll be together because the others will be #g instead of g#. Where should we put the sprite section under evolution?--[[User:Link3710|Link]] 21:17, 15 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Just wanna make sure you can tell it's a back sprite from it's name. I started the Emerald ones, got many up so far [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Category:Pok%C3%A9mon_Emerald_sprites here]. [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 02:47, 16 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::Less confusing the better though. I'll do green sprites. --[[User:Link3710|Link]] 19:50, 16 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::Emerald sprites done. Gonna work on the FireRed/LeafGreen ones soon. I'll volunteer for all the Gen III and Gen IV animated ones as well. [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 10:16, 17 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::Please do NOT put the animated Emerald sprites in the evolution boxes. The animation in that part looks tacky, and the DP sprites are preferred anyway. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 13:26, 17 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::I only put them there temporarily waiting for the D/P sprites to be uploaded (since we obviously don't don't have Emerald sprites for the D/P's) Also finished the Gen 3 back sprites. [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 15:17, 17 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::Ah, okay. I'd avoid doing things like that in the future, however - animated sprites have their uses, but they're not particularly good placeholders. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] 16:51, 17 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::Yup, I wasn't sure if they were going to upload the D/P sprites anyway...the ones now don't follow the pattern above, but we can simply use ###.png for the static images of the most recent generation. Also: Does anyone have the animated Emerald sprites for Unown and Castform's alts? As well as the back sprites for Deoxys in Emerald, FireRed, and LeafGreen? Those are the only ones missing for the 3rd gen so far... [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 19:48, 17 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::Update: Yellow sprites done. Check the chart above for updates. [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 15:37, 19 October 2006 (UTC) <br /> :::::::Red/Green done [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 19:36, 23 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::All generation I sprites done (Blue and back since last time). I think by now I know all the first 151 numbers and positions by heart. My fingers hurt. [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 23:08, 26 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::::::::As I've seen them needed, I've put the D/P sprites at ###.png, for easier access in Pokédex pages and such. Any luck finding the alternate versions of the Unowns? And how about the mini, Party-screen sprites of them all? Should they be here, too? They don't seem to have ANY difference between gen III and IV, so we have that going for us if we do them, at least... [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 12:38, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> :::::::::You guys are all lucky. I can't even see the sprites on my computer screen. Wherever they are supposed to be on the page, nothing is there. Does anyone know why? I know it's not my browser, because I can see images perfectly on Wikipedia, and the Bulbapedia logo even shows up. Can someone help me? [[User:Pokéball|Pokéball]] 15:59, 10 July 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Should we make it a project to try to acquire all of the missing sprites, because if so, where can we get some. Canopydouble 17:38, 7 November 2007 (EST)<br /> :Nah, it'd really just be part of this one. And as for where, well, Pokémon Elite 2000 has a bunch, the problem is really the uploading. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;TTE&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 05:45, 8 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I'm working on it. My fingers still hurt. Gold sprites uploaded, I may do the shiny ones later today. [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 17:03, 9 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Okay. Looking at the Sprite template, I refresh the page on {{p|Umbreon}} (Since the Gold sprite is uploaded.) and it's not showing up. The filename is correct. What the heck could be wrong? :S {{ani|281}}[[User:TinaTheKirlia|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#E75480;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF69B4;&quot;&gt;i&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F6ADC6;&quot;&gt;n&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFC0CB;&quot;&gt;a&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;sup&gt;[[User:TinaTheKirlia/Sandbox|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFC0CB;&quot;&gt;☆&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Favorites|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F6ADC6;&quot;&gt;♥&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF69B4;&quot;&gt;♫&lt;/span&gt;]]{{Ani|380}}&lt;/sup&gt; 17:09, 9 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :I think it's a cache issue. Try closing your browser, erasing your cache, and going back to the page. If that doesn't work, then the server is just catching up. I just finished all the normal Silver ones; I'll work on the shinies for G/S tomorrow. [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 01:34, 12 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Yup, it is. Just finished Gold shiny. Also, the Unown sprites I have are not sized correctly, so I'll have to do those by hand; it may take a while. I'll do Silver shiny later today or tomorrow. [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 16:37, 12 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Bam. That was easier than I thought. All the Gold and Silver Unown sprites, including shiny, are up. Crystal may be more of a challenge. [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 19:57, 12 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Categories ==<br /> <br /> Recently, I've been categorizing some Pokémon's pages like nuts, organizing them by how they evolve, and stuff like that. What does everytone think of it? I know it's kinda overloaded on Eevee's and some others' pages, like Poliwhirl, but can't we remedy that somehow?<br /> <br /> Also, should we categorize Pokémon that don't evolve at all, legendaries, and Pokémon that evolve only by level? Or just leave off the level-evolvers, since that's pretty much everyone? Also, should the Pokémon be categorized under Pokémon that don't evolve, and bring all of the final forms in, or under Pokémon that are not part of an evolution chain, to prevent that? [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 02:15, 26 October 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Wobbuffet and Wynaut: Other appearances ==<br /> <br /> [http://youtube.com/watch?v=iizKu2J1G7w See here] for Mystery Dungeon appearance. It should be noted when you watch this that Wobbuffet's Japanese name means something like &quot;That's the way it is&quot; in Japanese, and the joke was lost in translation, but Wynaut is so cute! --[[User:Raijinili|Raijinili]] 16:19, 22 January 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Joining?==<br /> How do I join this project? I would like to. [[User:Carnivine|Carnivine]]<br /> <br /> I would also like to join. I would like to help in any way possible. [[User:Djensen1992|Djensen1992]]<br /> <br /> I also am interested in joining the project.--[[User:Durgle|Durgle]] 21:07, 11 June 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I, also, would very much like to join this project. - [[User:C.Olimar788|C.Olimar788]] 00:34, 20 June 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Funny how people ask if they could join in this section, but they are never answered. I would also like to help. [[User:Pokéball|Pokéball]] 16:35, 10 July 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I would like to join the project. -[[User:DarkMazer|DarkMazer]] 20:12, 13 August 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Can i Join? --[[User:Bearfan121|Bearfan121]] 17:26, 17 August 2007 (UTC)<br /> :Everyone, sign your name on the project page to join. And only do so if you're prepared to get your grammar scrutinized, all according to the good ol' {{bp|manual of style}}. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;E&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 02:52, 18 August 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I want to help, what should I do? - Canopydouble - 18:10, 11 November 2007 (EST)<br /> :Whatever you want to help with. The [[Bulbapedia:Project Pokédex/To-do list|to-do list]] covers what specifically needs to be added. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] &lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]&lt;/sup&gt; 23:17, 11 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> I would like to join --{{Ani|133}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#008000;&quot;&gt;'''Darth'''&lt;/span&gt;]]{{Ani|196}}[[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;'''Cookie'''&lt;/span&gt;]]{{Ani|197}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster/Trade with Me|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;'''Monster'''&lt;/span&gt;]]{{Ani|471}} 08:46, 30 December 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I would also like to join. I watch Animal Planet all the time, so I could fing real-life animals that are very much like some Pokemon.{{Ani|479}}[[User:Gizmo Guy|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#008000;&quot;&gt;'''Gizmo'''&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:Gizmo Guy|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#008000;&quot;&gt;'''Guy'''&lt;/span&gt;]]{{Ani|474}} 09:19, 30 December 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Screenshots from the anime==<br /> I've noticed in a few articles, there are pictures of the Pokémon under the '''In the anime''' heading. Should there be screenshots of all Pokémon in the anime? I'd be more than happy to help with that if it's needed. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] 16:00, 30 March 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Basic Stats Radar Graph ==<br /> <br /> Yeah, I'm kinda posting this topic to vent some of my ideas on how to display information. In this one I'll focus on displaying the basic stats. The current system is the values, along with the horizontal bars. I personally thought of replacing it with a slightly more graphic way of displaying it: namely using radar-graphs. I've prepared some samples: [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/Democalyps/Misc/Bulbasaur.png Bulbasaur], [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/Democalyps/Misc/Ivysaur.png Ivysaur], [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/Democalyps/Misc/Venusaur.png Venusaur], [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/Democalyps/Misc/Charizard.png Charizard] and [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v254/Democalyps/Misc/Weedle.png Weedle]<br /> <br /> I personally am willing to create all the needed graphs, it's quite a quick process so I can get them all done on reasonably short term. Next to these would be a small table stating the exact values. The shapes of these, along with the size give a more visual indication of what kind of pokemon it is, status-wise. I've sorted them so, that the top half is defence/health, the bottom is speed and offensive power, left is special and the right is physical. Along with these graphs I suggest adding a bar, similar to those currently displayed on the pages, displaying the total of basic stats (i.e. all values added up); again along with the numeric value. The latter gives a good indication of the overall strength of that specific pokemon. I'm still working on how to properly format that one though; the maximum total can run up to 720 (Arceus); a width or height of 720px is a bit too much. ^^;<br /> <br /> As for the base-stats of the Red, Blue and Yellow games (where Sp.Atk and Sp. Def haven't been seperated yet); since it's only 151 extra graphs, I wouldn't mind creating and adding a secondary graph for those pokemon.<br /> <br /> As for the format of the images; The ones I made are just proto-types, but I reckoned this size and colour would make a nice, neat and neutral-looking graph. This is, however, open to discussion. =3<br /> <br /> <br /> On a final, slightly unrelated note, I personally feel the type advantage thing could just as well be taken away. Since the special/physical deviations of the types have been taken out, the current information is pretty much stating the obvious. A quick glance at a type-chart can give you the exact same information. Clearing them out will remove the in my humble opinion rather annoying page-stretching.<br /> <br /> So... Yeah ^^ I'd like to become a part of this Pokedex project and would like to hear how you all feel about this and whether or not you want me to start implementing the graphs.<br /> <br /> --[[User:Democalypse|Democalypse]] 23:11, 10 April 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ...I dunno, we already have them in bar form... And just looking at the type chart might cause someone to miss a double weakness or a double resistance, or a neutralization effect. --'''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;E&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 00:09, 11 April 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> Yeah, but the bars don't really show how the values relate to eachother on the whole. Plus, the bars tend to take up a lot of space and stretch the page (which really damages the neatness of the page as a whole). The solution to the latter you addressed is simple: creating a third type chart along with the two we already have, in which we'll also include all presently existing dual-types. Basically what we have now is just stating the obvious, taking up space and stretching the page. X__x --[[User:Democalypse|Democalypse]] 22:56, 11 April 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Please keep the weaknesses/resistances on the individual Pokémon's pages. When deciding what to use against a particular opposing Pokémon, I go to that Pokémon's page and check the type effectiveness there. That's a lot easier than checking a type chart, and maybe forgetting 1 of the Pokémon's 2 types. [[User:Zurqoxn|Zurqoxn]] 23:05, 25 April 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Game data structure ==<br /> <br /> Since we have headings for the other formats, I suggest that the sections of game data we have go under a broad &quot;games&quot; heading. I'm particularly proposing that &quot;NPC appearances&quot; is a subheading of this and not locations, since an appearance isn't the same as a location.<br /> <br /> See this version of Bulbasaur's page: [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Bulbasaur_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29&amp;oldid=124619] --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] &lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]&lt;/sup&gt; 15:10, 19 April 2007 (UTC)<br /> :Sounds reasonable to me. Go right ahead. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] &lt;sup&gt;~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]]&lt;/sup&gt; 16:08, 19 April 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Wild levels ==<br /> <br /> I got this request on my talk page:<br /> :''Can you make a new template for Pokédex. It involves the use of telling users levels of which Pokémon are caught at e.g. Dialga. --[[User:Pokemongeniusscientist|Zywxn]]''<br /> I'm bringing it up here because, while it's an interesting idea, I'm not sure how it would work. It would certainly be easy to add to the Pokédex template for Dialga but some of the common wild Pokémon have levels all over the place. And even in the case of the legendaries, levels aren't consistent. For example, Ho-Oh is level 40 in Gold and level 70 in Silver. <br /> <br /> More importantly, is this a worthwhile venture? --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] &lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]&lt;/sup&gt; 23:41, 29 April 2007 (UTC)<br /> :I could see it as a possible extra column on the Game locations table. It can already be found on location articles, which the tables link to, but I suppose there's no good reason to keep it off the species articles. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] &lt;sup&gt;~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]]&lt;/sup&gt; 00:58, 30 April 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Hoenn numbers? ==<br /> <br /> I know they're in the data, but honestly, should we have the Hoenn Dex numbers for Pokémon like Bulbasaur, who aren't in the Hoenn Dex proper? After all, we don't have Bulbasaur's Sinnoh Dex number as 152... --'''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;E&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 23:57, 18 May 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :The Sinnoh Dex numbers for Bulbasaur etc. ''do not exist'', whereas the Hoenn Dex numbers do. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]]&lt;sub&gt;[[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]]&lt;/sub&gt; 06:00, 19 May 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I know, but still. Bulbasaur may be 203 technically, but you can't see them, except when you cheat to catch them in-game. --'''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;E&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 06:03, 19 May 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == About external links and fan shrines... ==<br /> <br /> I couldn't help but notice that within the Project Pokedex section, it is mentioned that Pokemon can receive not only wikipedia links but fan shrine links, too.<br /> <br /> Now, before I jumped ahead of myself, I checked a few of the obviously more popular Pokemon, like Eevee or Pikachu. You can't go wrong with that. What I noticed is that the only fan stuffs listed is fanlistings, though. While that's something, it is what it is... a list. Granted, Poke-centric (that is, non human) shrines seem to be hard to come by in the 'States for some reason.<br /> <br /> So, my question is, what would I have to do to get a fan shrine listed? Does there have to meet certain requirements? Is it necessary that it's a fanlisting? The site is in English, in case you're wondering. I know the ratio of Japanese artsy Poke-centric sites to US ones is extremely skewed in their favor, so I can see where that could be a concern, if a concern at all.<br /> --[[User:Nidorino|Nidorino]] 16:56, 25 May 2007 (UTC)<br /> :I would say in this matter, it's more quality that matters than notability. If you have a site that is good enough to be of interest to someone looking for some sort of information on the Pokémon - go ahead and add it. But if it's something that's low-quality and not useful, expect to see the link removed shortly after.<br /> :Also, I would rule that foreign language sites can also be included - but with stricter inclusion standards, at the bottom of the external links list, and with its language included in parentheses so people don't click expecting an English site and get something in a different language. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] &lt;sup&gt;~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]]&lt;/sup&gt; 18:03, 25 May 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::Well, it's actually more interesting and for leisure than it is informational. I sorta made it both because I thought the Nidoran line was severely underappreciated and I got a little tired of the thousands of informational Pokemon sites but no fun multimedia ones. I suppose for what it's worth, it'll probably be really nice for any Pokemon fan since there's lots to see and do (for a Nido centric site, it's actually doing really well), I put a ''lot'' of work into it as well.<br /> <br /> ::The quality lies in the content, I go all out on what talents I have all for the sake of Nido Pokemon. There's also people who share the same idea, so a lot of contributions have come from people all over, it's probably ''one of'' the biggest Nido fan gatherings, which truthfully isn't a hard goal to aspire for considering the Pokemon in question. My main reasoning behind it, though, is that I just think that Nido fans shouldn't be left out of the picture, considering I know how hard it is to find anything interesting about them at all.<br /> <br /> ::So I guess what it comes down to is what one wants. It someone's trying to read hard facts, well, they could do that anywhere. But if someone's looking for something fun and different, that's the goal I want to accomplish. <br /> <br /> ::Would that still be okay?--[[User:Nidorino|Nidorino]] 18:17, 26 May 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Biology ==<br /> <br /> There's been a bit of controversy over the content in the biology section of {{p|Typhlosion}}'s article. It may be an idea to keep an eye over the stuff that goes in that section. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] &lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]&lt;/sup&gt; 23:13, 25 May 2007 (UTC)<br /> :... how in the world did we miss that? D: --[[User:Pie|Pie]] &lt;sup&gt;~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]]&lt;/sup&gt; 00:34, 26 May 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Diamond and Pearl Pokéradar==<br /> In relation to the Pokeradar in Daimond and Pearl. Should it be mentioned in the Rarity section like [[Nidoran♀ (Pokémon)]] or in the Location section like [[Venonat (Pokémon)]]. Just asking so that there can be some consistancy in the articles. [[User:Pterodactal|Pterodactal]] 08:44, 12 July 2007 (UTC)<br /> :Do we need to point out that the Pokéradar Pokémon are rare? If not, we have a free space to fit it in: <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;2&quot;<br /> |- style=&quot;background: #{{poison color}};&quot; <br /> ! Game<br /> ! [[Rarity]]<br /> ! Location<br /> |-<br /> | [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl]] || [[Pokéradar]] || [[Route 201]]<br /> |}<br /> :Otherwise, I prefer how Venonat looks. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] &lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]&lt;/sup&gt; 17:05, 6 August 2007 (UTC)<br /> :They aren't always rare. And I've been adding in an availability template to Pokémon pages:<br /> <br /> {{Availability|<br /> type=ice |<br /> gen=3 |<br /> rsrarity=Few |<br /> rsarea=[[Shoal Cave]] |<br /> erarity=Few |<br /> earea=[[Shoal Cave]] |<br /> dprarity=Rare |<br /> dparea=[[Route]]s {{rtn|216}} and {{rtn|217}}, [[Acuity Lakefront]] ([[Poké Radar]]) |<br /> }}<br /> <br /> That's what {{p|Snorunt}} has. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;E&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 01:07, 7 August 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::I'm missing how that template affects the current issue. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] &lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]&lt;/sup&gt; 21:50, 9 August 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Thanks for the help. So what about those in the Trophy Garden but need the pokéradar to be found. Should this be mentioned in the location section as well as that they are found in the Trophy Garden? The question was raised when looking at the [[Meowth]] page.<br /> <br /> :Yes, it should mention on both pages. And the page is on {{p|Meowth}}, [[Meowth]] is a disambiguation page, so you'd better use the {{template|p}} template. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;E&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 18:22, 8 August 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::Ok but what about the PokéRadar in the Trophy Garden?[[User:Pterodactal|Pterodactal]] 10:03, 9 August 2007 (UTC)<br /> :::What do you mean? '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;E&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 00:08, 10 August 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::::All of the pokemon that change daily in the Trophy Garden eg Happiny, Porygon and Mime Jr. require Pokeradar to find. Should this be mentioned in the template's location section? [[User:Pterodactal|Pterodactal]] 06:34, 16 September 2007 (UTC)<br /> :::::Do they? If so, well, do like Snorunt. Put &quot;[[Trophy Garden]] ([[Poké Radar]])&quot; in the dparea thing. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;E&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 09:50, 16 September 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::::::The Trophy Garden Pokémon '''don't''' need Poké Radar. You just need to walk around a lot. - - - '''[[User:Dra2k4|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#00CC00;&quot;&gt;dra&lt;/span&gt;''&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;2&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;k&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;4&lt;/span&gt;'']]''' 09:20, 23 September 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> DONE THANKS GUYS [[User:Pterodactal|Pterodactal]] 11:26, 16 September 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Tiers==<br /> Might it be a good idea to create a category for each tier of Pokémon, as of Diamond/Pearl? It would be a bit easier for people to find out what tier their Pokémon is by just scrolling down, as opposed to navigating to the [[list of tiers]] page.<br /> :Well, I dunno, it's really more arbitrary than others. For example, I consider Gorebyss to be pretty good, but I've never used Skarmory. And let's not forget that the list of tiers is in need of cleanup; it seems pretty damn opinionated (and that's not because it says that Typhlosion is &quot;not recommended for use outside of its tier&quot;). After all, any Pokémon can be good if you can figure out how to make it that way. Heck, it's my opinion that the list of tiers is the same sort of &quot;we'll tell you how to play Pokémon and not let you have fun&quot; thing as that recommended movesets thing that was here a while back. Also, don't forget to sign comments with &lt;nowiki&gt;~~~~&lt;/nowiki&gt;. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;E&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 02:23, 20 August 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::Whoops, sorry about that. Fair point I guess, but it might be handy for competitive players in particular kinds of battle, Never-Used for example. [[User:Blink|Blink]] 15:20, 22 August 2007 (UTC)<br /> :::True, but eh. We have many of their level-up movesets, and most of their learnable TMs and HMs listed, as well as their base stats. Itdoes take a bit of investigating, still, to see whether the move in question on their list is Physical or Special, though, but as for how to change this? Beats me...<br /> :::I do think, however, that that would be a better thing to do. Let people make up their own strategies, we'd possibly get more variety in teams. After all, I know that I figured out that Typhlosion wasn't as good with variety on my own, since it can barely learn any Special moves that aren't Fire, but it took me a bit of searching. I'm gonna do some experimenting in my sandbox about how to indicate the Physical/Special/Status moves in my sandbox. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;E&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 01:01, 23 August 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::::Are tiers just a fandom thing, or was there ever an official list published, even for RSE/FRLG etc?[[User:Blink|Blink]] 14:45, 28 August 2007 (UTC)<br /> &amp;larr;&lt;br&gt;<br /> Far as I know they're just a fandom thing. I've never seen an official Nintendo list that says, outright &quot;CATERPIE SUCKS NEVER EVER EVER USE IT.&quot; even if '''''everyone''''' knows this to be true. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;E&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 19:25, 28 August 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> So any pokemon can be useful eh? Weedle vs. T-Tar lol.<br /> :Nintendo hasn't said not, therefore, yes, Weedle vs Tyranitar is fine. Frickin' go for it. {{:User:TTEchidna/sig}} 03:33, 31 December 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Learnsets ==<br /> <br /> Okay, I know we'll all agree that other sites that indicate the type and category of a move on the Pokémon's page are helpful for quick lookers. Sure, we shouldn't add power, accuracy, PP, and all that, but at the very least the type and category of the move.<br /> <br /> [[User:TTEchidna/Sandbox/Bulbasaur|So this is what I've come up with for Bulbasaur]]. It still indicates STAB, if a person's too lazy to scroll up to see what types the Pokémon is, and for Gen IV, it indicates Physical/Special in addition to type so that a person can pick out moves depending on the stats of the Pokémon as well as its types.<br /> <br /> Thoughts? I certainly think that this could make the Pokémon pages much better than they are. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;E&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 09:45, 3 September 2007 (UTC)<br /> :I think you could be on to something here. It even looks a bit better, aesthetically speaking, than the current table. [[User:Blink|Blink]] 19:24, 4 September 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: Looks very nice. I feel sorry for you though, having to do that 492 more times. [[User:Zurqoxn|Zurqoxn]] 06:08, 5 September 2007 (UTC)<br /> :::Yeah... unless I get some help... '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;E&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 06:32, 5 September 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::::That's very good. I like the layout better than the current one, since it seems easier to read and clearly shows whether a move is physical, special or status. -[[User:DarkMazer|DarkMazer]] 03:37, 17 September 2007 (UTC)<br /> Now the best question. Wanna help me add them to all the rest?<br /> <br /> Also: I have a new, possibly more improved proposal. [[User:TTEchidna/Sandbox/Bulbasaur/Future|Check it out]]. This way, when we get Gen V, VI, VII, and so on... we won't have to move stuff around besides the current moveset. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;E&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 10:08, 17 September 2007 (UTC)<br /> : I like your design. *nod* I would say leave it as separate tables on the same pages for Gen V but when we get to Gen VI change it to separate pages altogether. Though that would be a lot of work of converting all the pages. Perhaps we should start changing the pages once we hear Gen VI will be released? (If it does :P)'''[[User:Dra2k4|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#00CC00;&quot;&gt;dra&lt;/span&gt;''&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;2&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;k&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;4&lt;/span&gt;'']]''' 19:58, 20 September 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::Wouldn't really be much work, per se, if we already have all of the movesets organized into those tables-within-tables like Bulbasaur and some others have. '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;]][[wp:Echidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;E&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 09:45, 23 September 2007 (UTC)<br /> :::So when can we get started on changing them? - - - '''[[User:Dra2k4|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#00CC00;&quot;&gt;dra&lt;/span&gt;''&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;2&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF;&quot;&gt;k&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000;&quot;&gt;4&lt;/span&gt;'']]''' 10:16, 23 September 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Body shape ==<br /> <br /> In GenIV, rather than by colour, Pokémon are able to be searched by a general body shape... Unfortunately, these categories are all symbols rather than names. This would make it hard to be included here, but I thought I'd put forth the idea anyway: Sort Pokémon by body shape, like we do with colour. The first thing, though, is that we'd have to come up with an agreeable standard on what each category should be named (since it doesn't do that for us). Just putting forth the idea for discussion, and whether or not the community thinks it would be useful. --[[User:DarkfireTaimatsu|DarkfireTaimatsu]] 04:36, 18 September 2007 (UTC)<br /> :We definately want to have some coverage on it but, as you say, it's going to be diffcult to implement. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] &lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]&lt;/sup&gt; 23:10, 11 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::So, anyone got any ideas for this? '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;TTE&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 02:05, 8 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> :::How about we get the sprites from the game for it? As for the category.. um.. &quot;Body Shape 1 Pokémon&quot;, etc? That's a suggestion I have. {{ani|281}}[[User:TinaTheKirlia|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#E75480;&quot;&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF69B4;&quot;&gt;i&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F6ADC6;&quot;&gt;n&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFC0CB;&quot;&gt;a&lt;/span&gt;]]&lt;sup&gt;[[User:TinaTheKirlia/Sandbox|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FFC0CB;&quot;&gt;☆&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Favorites|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#F6ADC6;&quot;&gt;♥&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF69B4;&quot;&gt;♫&lt;/span&gt;]]{{Ani|380}}&lt;/sup&gt; 03:06, 8 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::::But who'll say which is which? '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;TTE&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 05:43, 8 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Alternate Coloration ==<br /> <br /> I've been having plans for starting a subsection to the biology section that describes a Pokémon's alternate coloring. But the thing is, TinatheKirlia told me that such a subsection would be unnecessary because the sprite templates on each article. But I (was with TTEchidna, apparently) believe that describing what a Pokémon's shiny version looks like would be better.--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 20:10, 27 September 2007 (UTC)<br /> :It seems no more redundant than describing the normal form in the first place... --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] &lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]&lt;/sup&gt; 22:47, 11 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> ::Eh, I really think that there are more important things than telling what color a Pokémon is when shiny, but most especially since the sprites do so, and easily demonstrate the differences among the generations (Bulbasaur itself is tan in Gen II, but green with a dark green bulb in III and IV). '''[[User:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF0000&quot;&gt;TTE&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TTEchidna|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#0000FF&quot;&gt;chidna&lt;/span&gt;]]''' 23:18, 11 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :::Sometimes the shiny colors (I think this is why) in GenII is because of the limitations of the GBC. Some simple colors, such as [[Red Gyarados]], stay but others such as Bulbasaur and Charizard get a little discolored, because of the limitations.<br /> :::I dunno, but that's my guess. [[User:TinaTheKirlia|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#E75480;&quot;&gt;Tina&lt;/span&gt;]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#E75480;&quot;&gt;The&lt;/span&gt;]][[Kirlia (Pokémon)|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#E75480;&quot;&gt;Kirlia&lt;/span&gt;]] ♥ [[Image:281MS.gif]] 23:33, 11 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ::::Sorry about that misunderstanding, TTE. I thought you were agreeing with me.--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 23:23, 12 October 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == pronunciation ==<br /> <br /> Just relizing that I had &quot;THE OFFICIAL Pokémon Handbook&quot; infront of me. I always hated not knowing how to say the names correctly and in this book it says how is it possible to add a section for the first genneration Pokémon. (That's the only handbook I currently have from my school library).--[[Image:Ani052MS.gif]][[Image:Ani300MS.gif]][[Image:Ani431MS.gif]][[User:kittenchild|&lt;span style=&quot;color: #4080FF&quot;&gt;kitten&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #204080&quot;&gt;child&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style=&quot;color: #000000&quot;&gt; and her &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #998969&quot;&gt;d&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #804020&quot;&gt;i&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #998969&quot;&gt;s&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #804020&quot;&gt;c&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #998969&quot;&gt;o&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #804020&quot;&gt;v&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #998969&quot;&gt;e&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #804020&quot;&gt;r&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #998969&quot;&gt;y&lt;/span&gt;]][[Image:Ani264MS.gif]]A.K.A. ねこさん 01:32, 26 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I have all of the series of those offical handbooks.................(but what does that have to do with Project Pokédex?????) --[[Image:Spr 3e 059.gif|70px]][[Image:Spr 3e 132.gif]]'''[[User:Theryguy512|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF7F00&quot;&gt;Theryguy&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA&quot;&gt;5&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA&quot;&gt;1&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Theryguy512/Games|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA&quot;&gt;2&lt;/span&gt;]]''' [[Image:Trozeiani025.gif]] 01:35, 26 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> well they have the pronunciation on every Pokémon shouldn't we put how to say the name of the Pokémon on their page?--[[Image:Ani052MS.gif]][[Image:Ani300MS.gif]][[Image:Ani431MS.gif]][[User:kittenchild|&lt;span style=&quot;color: #4080FF&quot;&gt;kitten&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #204080&quot;&gt;child&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style=&quot;color: #000000&quot;&gt; and her &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #998969&quot;&gt;d&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #804020&quot;&gt;i&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #998969&quot;&gt;s&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #804020&quot;&gt;c&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #998969&quot;&gt;o&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #804020&quot;&gt;v&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #998969&quot;&gt;e&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #804020&quot;&gt;r&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #998969&quot;&gt;y&lt;/span&gt;]][[Image:Ani264MS.gif]]A.K.A. ねこさん 01:39, 26 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Most people know how to say it......but it's an idea........--[[Image:Spr 3e 059.gif|70px]][[Image:Spr 3e 132.gif]]'''[[User:Theryguy512|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF7F00&quot;&gt;Theryguy&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA&quot;&gt;5&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA&quot;&gt;1&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Theryguy512/Games|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA&quot;&gt;2&lt;/span&gt;]]''' [[Image:Trozeiani025.gif]] 02:00, 26 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I say this because I'm always fighting with my bro (who is 24) about how to say kyogre<br /> He says it as if it was katakana and I disagree.--[[Image:Ani052MS.gif]][[Image:Ani300MS.gif]][[Image:Ani431MS.gif]][[User:kittenchild|&lt;span style=&quot;color: #4080FF&quot;&gt;kitten&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #204080&quot;&gt;child&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span style=&quot;color: #000000&quot;&gt; and her &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #998969&quot;&gt;d&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #804020&quot;&gt;i&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #998969&quot;&gt;s&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #804020&quot;&gt;c&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #998969&quot;&gt;o&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #804020&quot;&gt;v&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #998969&quot;&gt;e&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #804020&quot;&gt;r&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=&quot;color: #998969&quot;&gt;y&lt;/span&gt;]][[Image:Ani264MS.gif]]A.K.A. ねこさん 02:03, 26 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :It would be a useful addition to the infoboxes. The main question is if there is an official source for beyond the first generation. (Since some people insist that the dub pronounces things wrong for some reason.) I know we got Bonsly confirmed from PUSA but not of any source for the rest. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] &lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]&lt;/sup&gt; 23:21, 27 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> well I have the handbooks of the second generation, and the third generation as well. --[[Image:Spr 3e 059.gif|70px]][[Image:Spr 3e 132.gif]]'''[[User:Theryguy512|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#FF7F00&quot;&gt;Theryguy&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA&quot;&gt;5&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA&quot;&gt;1&lt;/span&gt;]][[User:Theryguy512/Games|&lt;span style=&quot;color:#5C8CFA&quot;&gt;2&lt;/span&gt;]]''' [[Image:Trozeiani025.gif]] 00:01, 28 November 2007 (UTC)<br /> :I usually pronounce Kyogre as Kai-oh-great (minus the t at the end). But the anime is Kai-oh-ge... {{:User:Optimus35/sig}} 13:52, 30 December 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == R/S sprites ==<br /> <br /> I know you guys aren't done uploading them, but are we gonna do the R/S sprites? Even though we have the Emerald ones... the R/S ones are half distracting. I dunno, just wondering.. {{User:TinaTheKirlia/Sig}} 19:06, 4 December 2007 (UTC)<br /> :All sprites means ''all'' of 'em. The only problem I see us running into is the shiny Emerald sprites. {{:User:TTEchidna/sig}} 19:19, 4 December 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Shadow ==<br /> <br /> So um... where should we put info on the Shadow Pokémon? Probably under Game info, or Game locations.. {{User:TinaTheKirlia/Sig}} 21:54, 17 December 2007 (UTC)<br /> :That'd be a good idea, as a subsection of that. Like...<br /> <br /> :Probaly under Game Info..... &lt;span style=&quot;background:#5CDDFF&quot;&gt;[[Image:Ani234MS.gif]][[User:Theryguy512|&lt;span style= color:#FF0000&gt;M&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style= color:#177245&gt;E&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style= color:#FF0000&gt;R&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style= color:#177245&gt;R&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style= color:#FF0000&gt;Y&lt;/span&gt;]] [[Image:Ani385MS.gif]] [[User talk:Theryguy512|&lt;span style= color:#177245&gt;C&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style= color:#FF0000&gt;H&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style= color:#177245&gt;R&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style= color:#FF0000&gt;I&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style= color:#177245&gt;S&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style= color:#FF0000&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style= color:#177245&gt;M&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style= color:#FF0000&gt;A&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style= color:#177245&gt;S&lt;/span&gt;]][[Image:Ani225MS.gif]]&lt;/span&gt; 23:55, 17 December 2007 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ===Shadow (name)===<br /> In (Colo/XD) a [[Shadow Pokémon|Shadow]] (name) can be found in (location), trained by (trainer). Its moves are (moves) and, when purified, it learns (moves).<br /> <br /> {{:User:TTEchidna/sig}} 22:03, 17 December 2007 (UTC)<br /> :We already have this information. The location table notes which Pokémon are shadow and the moves are noted under the moveset heading. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] &lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]]&lt;/sup&gt; 23:45, 17 January 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Size and Weight ==<br /> <br /> Hello, I'd like to discuss about the weight and size of Pokémon we display in the pokédex pages, I think they should be there, but they are not. (if they are and I don't see it, please notice me :-])<br /> what do you think?</div>

MewUser https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User:MewUser&diff=295555 2008-02-07T10:19:29Z

<p>MewUser: New page: {{User Project Pokédex}}</p> <hr /> <div>{{User Project Pokédex}}</div>

MewUser https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Bulbapedia:Sandbox&diff=295554 2008-02-07T10:17:35Z

<p>MewUser: </p> <hr /> <div>Here is the full English set list for {{TCG|Great Encounters}}. It will be presented here while the set's article remains protected--or until a sysop implements the list while the article's still protected...<br /> <br /> ==English expansion==<br /> {| {{graytable}} <br /> |- style=&quot;background: #eaeaea;&quot;<br /> !No.<br /> !Collection No.<br /> !Card Name<br /> !Type<br /> !Level<br /> !Rarity<br /> |-<br /> | 1 || DPBP#307 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Blaziken|1}} || {{e|Fire}} || 56 || [[Image:Rare_rare.gif]]H<br /> |-<br /> | 2 || DPBP#527 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Cresselia|2}} || {{e|Psychic}} || 48 || [[Image:Rare_rare.gif]]H<br /> |-<br /> | 3 || - || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Darkrai|3}} || {{e|Darkness}} || 38 || [[Image:Rare_rare.gif]]H<br /> |-<br /> | 4 || DPBP#530 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Darkrai|4}} || {{e|Darkness}} || 40 || [[Image:Rare_rare.gif]]H<br /> |-<br /> | 5 || - || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Pachirisu|5}} || {{e|Lightning}} || 30 || [[Image:Rare_rare.gif]]H <br /> |-<br /> | 6 || DPBP#167 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Porygon-Z|6}} || {{e|Colorless}} || 54 || [[Image:Rare_rare.gif]]H<br /> |-<br /> | 7 || DPBP#518 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Rotom|7}} || {{e|Lightning}} || 38 || [[Image:Rare_rare.gif]]H<br /> |-<br /> | 8 || DPBP#304 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Sceptile|8}} || {{e|Grass}} || 52 || [[Image:Rare_rare.gif]]H<br /> |-<br /> | 9 || DPBP#310 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Swampert|9}} || {{e|Water}} || 53 || [[Image:Rare_rare.gif]]H<br /> |-<br /> | 10 || DPBP#130 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Tangrowth|10}} || {{e|Grass}} || 38 || [[Image:Rare_rare.gif]]H<br /> |-<br /> | 11 || DPBP#204 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Togekiss|11}} || {{e|Colorless}} || 51 || [[Image:Rare_rare.gif]]H<br /> |-<br /> | 12 || DPBP#387 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Altaria|12}} || {{e|Colorless}} || 42 || [[Image:Rare_rare.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 13 || DPBP#015 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Beedrill|13}} || {{e|Grass}} || 41 || [[Image:Rare_rare.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 14 || DPBP#012 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Butterfree|14}} || {{e|Grass}} || 36 || [[Image:Rare_rare.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 15 || DPBP#397 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Claydol|15}} || {{e|Fighting}} || 45 || [[Image:Rare_rare.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 16 || DPBP#522 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Dialga|16}} || {{e|Metal}} || 68 || [[Image:Rare_rare.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 17 || DPBP#346 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Exploud|17}} || {{e|Colorless}} || 58 || [[Image:Rare_rare.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 18 || DPBP#287 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Houndoom|18}} || {{e|Darkness}} || 41 || [[Image:Rare_rare.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 19 || DPBP#106 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Hypno|19}} || {{e|Psychic}} || 28 || [[Image:Rare_rare.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 20 || DPBP#108 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Kingler|20}} || {{e|Water}} || 33 || [[Image:Rare_rare.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 21 || DPBP#155 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Lapras|21}} || {{e|Water}} || 47 || [[Image:Rare_rare.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 22 || DPBP#438 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Latias|22}} || {{e|Colorless}} || 45 || [[Image:Rare_rare.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 23 || DPBP#439 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Latios|23}} || {{e|Colorless}} || 47 || [[Image:Rare_rare.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 24 || DPBP#354 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Mawile|24}} || {{e|Metal}} || 32 || [[Image:Rare_rare.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 25 || DPBP#403 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Milotic|25}} || {{e|Water}} || 47 || [[Image:Rare_rare.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 26 || DPBP#523 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Palkia|26}} || {{e|Water}} || 67 || [[Image:Rare_rare.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 27 || DPBP#062 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Primeape|27}} || {{e|Fighting}} || 41 || [[Image:Rare_rare.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 28 || DPBP#087 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Slowking|28}} || {{e|Psychic}} || 41 || [[Image:Rare_rare.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 29 || DPBP#236 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Unown H|29}} || {{e|Psychic}} || 12 || [[Image:Rare_rare.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 30 || DPBP#374 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Wailord|30}} || {{e|Water}} || 43 || [[Image:Rare_rare.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 31 || DPBP#122 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Weezing|31}} || {{e|Psychic}} || 42 || [[Image:Rare_rare.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 32 || DPBP#043 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Wigglytuff|32}} || {{e|Colorless}} || 46 || [[Image:Rare_rare.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 33 || DPBP#024 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Arbok|33}} || {{e|Psychic}} || 31 || [[Image:Rare_uncom.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 34 || DPBP#385 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Cacturne|34}} || {{e|Darkness}} || 36 || [[Image:Rare_uncom.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 35 || DPBP#306 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Combusken|35}} || {{e|Fire}} || 24 || [[Image:Rare_uncom.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 36 || DPBP#282 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Delibird|36}} || {{e|Water}} || 26 || [[Image:Rare_uncom.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 37 || - || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Floatzel|37}} || {{e|Water}} || 32 || [[Image:Rare_uncom.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 38 || DPBP#426 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Gorebyss|38}} || {{e|Water}} || 34 || [[Image:Rare_uncom.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 39 || DPBP#266 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Granbull|39}} || {{e|Colorless}} || 34 || [[Image:Rare_uncom.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 40 || DPBP#303 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Grovyle|40}} || {{e|Grass}} || 26 || [[Image:Rare_uncom.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 41 || DPBP#348 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Hariyama|41}} || {{e|Fighting}} || 38 || [[Image:Rare_uncom.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 42 || DPBP#425 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Huntail|42}} || {{e|Water}} || 33 || [[Image:Rare_uncom.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 43 || DPBP#314 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Linoone|43}} || {{e|Colorless}} || 24 || [[Image:Rare_uncom.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 44 || DPBP#345 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Loudred|44}} || {{e|Colorless}} || 31 || [[Image:Rare_uncom.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 45 || DPBP#275 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Magcargo|45}} || {{e|Fire}} || 35 || [[Image:Rare_uncom.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 46 || DPBP#309 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Marshtomp|46}} || {{e|Water}} || 23 || [[Image:Rare_uncom.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 47 || DPBP#011 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Metapod|47}} || {{e|Grass}} || 9 || [[Image:Rare_uncom.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 48 || DPBP#329 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Pelipper|48}} || {{e|Water}} || 45 || [[Image:Rare_uncom.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 49 || DPBP#166 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Porygon2|49}} || {{e|Colorless}} || 39 || [[Image:Rare_uncom.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 50 || - || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Purugly|50}} || {{e|Colorless}} || 47 || [[Image:Rare_uncom.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 51 || DPBP#427 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Relicanth|51}} || {{e|Water}} || 31 || [[Image:Rare_uncom.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 52 || DPBP#389 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Seviper|52}} || {{e|Psychic}} || 26 || [[Image:Rare_uncom.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 53 || DPBP#285 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Skarmory|53}} || {{e|Metal}} || 31 || [[Image:Rare_uncom.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 54 || DPBP#086 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Slowbro|54}} || {{e|Water}} || 39 || [[Image:Rare_uncom.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 55 || DPBP#203 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Togetic|55}} || {{e|Colorless}} || 23 || [[Image:Rare_uncom.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 56 || DPBP#234 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Unown F|56}} || {{e|Psychic}} || 13 || [[Image:Rare_uncom.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 57 || DPBP#235 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Unown G|57}} || {{e|Psychic}} || 17 || [[Image:Rare_uncom.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 58 || DPBP#373 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Wailmer|58}} || {{e|Water}} || 14 || [[Image:Rare_uncom.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 59 || DPBP#388 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Zangoose|59}} || {{e|Colorless}} || 23 || [[Image:Rare_uncom.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 60 || DPBP#396 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Baltoy|60}} || {{e|Fighting}} || 11 || [[Image:Rare_com.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 61 || - || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Buizel|61}} || {{e|Water}} || 14 || [[Image:Rare_com.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 62 || DPBP#384 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Cacnea|62}} || {{e|Grass}} || 12 || [[Image:Rare_com.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 63 || DPBP#010 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Caterpie|63}} || {{e|Grass}} || 6 || [[Image:Rare_com.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 64 || DPBP#424 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Clamperl|64}} || {{e|Water}} || 15 || [[Image:Rare_com.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 65 || DPBP#105 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Drowzee|65}} || {{e|Psychic}} || 13 || [[Image:Rare_com.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 66 || DPBP#023 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Ekans|66}} || {{e|Psychic}} || 16 || [[Image:Rare_com.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 67 || DPBP#402 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Feebas|67}} || {{e|Water}} || 4 || [[Image:Rare_com.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 68 || - || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Glameow|68}} || {{e|Colorless}} || 14 || [[Image:Rare_com.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 69 || DPBP#286 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Houndour|69}} || {{e|Fire}} || 13 || [[Image:Rare_com.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 70 || DPBP#041 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Igglybuff|70}} || {{e|Colorless}} || 6 || [[Image:Rare_com.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 71 || DPBP#365 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Illumise|71}} || {{e|Grass}} || 29 || [[Image:Rare_com.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 72 || DPBP#042 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Jigglypuff|72}} || {{e|Colorless}} || 23 || [[Image:Rare_com.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 73 || DPBP#014 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Kakuna|73}} || {{e|Grass}} || 9 || [[Image:Rare_com.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 74 || DPBP#121 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Koffing|74}} || {{e|Psychic}} || 18 || [[Image:Rare_com.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 75 || DPBP#107 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Krabby|75}} || {{e|Water}} || 8 || [[Image:Rare_com.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 76 || DPBP#390 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Lunatone|76}} || {{e|Fighting}} || 31 || [[Image:Rare_com.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 77 || DPBP#428 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Luvdisc|77}} || {{e|Water}} || 28 || [[Image:Rare_com.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 78 || DPBP#347 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Makuhita|78}} || {{e|Fighting}} || 15 || [[Image:Rare_com.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 79 || DPBP#061 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Mankey|79}} || {{e|Fighting}} || 14 || [[Image:Rare_com.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 80 || DPBP#308 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Mudkip|80}} || {{e|Water}} || 7 || [[Image:Rare_com.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 81 || DPBP#165 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Porygon|81}} || {{e|Colorless}} || 7 || [[Image:Rare_com.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 82 || DPBP#085 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Slowpoke|82}} || {{e|Water}} || 10 || [[Image:Rare_com.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 83 || DPBP#274 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Slugma|83}} || {{e|Fire}} || 11 || [[Image:Rare_com.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 84 || DPBP#265 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Snubbull|84}} || {{e|Colorless}} || 11 || [[Image:Rare_com.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 85 || DPBP#391 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Solrock|85}} || {{e|Fighting}} || 29 || [[Image:Rare_com.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 86 || DPBP#386 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Swablu|86}} || {{e|Colorless}} || 7 || [[Image:Rare_com.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 87 || DPBP#129 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Tangela|87}} || {{e|Grass}} || 12 || [[Image:Rare_com.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 88 || DPBP#202 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Togepi|88}} || {{e|Colorless}} || 4 || [[Image:Rare_com.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 89 || DPBP#305 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Torchic|89}} || {{e|Fire}} || 7 || [[Image:Rare_com.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 90 || DPBP#302 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Treecko|90}} || {{e|Grass}} || 7 || [[Image:Rare_com.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 91 || DPBP#240 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Unown L|91}} || {{e|Psychic}} || 18 || [[Image:Rare_com.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 92 || DPBP#364 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Volbeat|92}} || {{e|Grass}} || 34 || [[Image:Rare_com.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 93 || DPBP#013 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Weedle|93}} || {{e|Grass}} || 5 || [[Image:Rare_com.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 94 || DPBP#344 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Whismur|94}} || {{e|Colorless}} || 8 || [[Image:Rare_com.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 95 || DPBP#328 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Wingull|95}} || {{e|Water}} || 6 || [[Image:Rare_com.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 96 || DPBP#313 || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Zigzagoon|96}} || {{e|Colorless}} || 6 || [[Image:Rare_com.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 97 || - || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Amulet Coin|97}} || T || -- || [[Image:Rare_uncom.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 98 || - || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Felicity's Drawing|98}} || Su || - || [[Image:Rare_uncom.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 99 || - || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Leftovers|99}} || T || - || [[Image:Rare_uncom.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 100 || - || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Moonlight Stadium|100}} || St || - || [[Image:Rare_uncom.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 101 || - || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Premier Ball|101}} || T || - || [[Image:Rare_uncom.gif]]<br /> |-<br /> | 102 || - || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Rare Candy|102}} || T || - || [[Image:Rare_uncom.gif]] <br /> |-<br /> | 103 || - || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Cresselia Lv.X|103}} || {{e|Psychic}} || X || [[Image:Rare_ssrare.gif]]H<br /> |-<br /> | 104 || - || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Darkrai Lv.X|104}} || {{e|Darkness}} || X || [[Image:Rare_ssrare.gif]]H<br /> |-<br /> | 105 || - || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Dialga Lv.X|105}} || {{e|Metal}} || X || [[Image:Rare_ssrare.gif]]H<br /> |-<br /> | 106 || - || {{TCG ID|Great Encounters|Palkia Lv.X|106}} || {{e|Water}} || X || [[Image:Rare_ssrare.gif]]H<br /> |}<br /> <br /> = Table Test =<br /> {{Sprite<br /> |type=Fire<br /> |gen=1<br /> |gender=both<br /> |ndex=4<br /> |name=Charmander<br /> |}}</div>

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<p>MewUser: </p> <hr /> <div>[[Image:Project Pokédex logo.png|right]]<br /> Some Bulbapedia members have formed a [[Bulbapedia:Project|project]] to better organise efforts to write and improve articles about '''Pokémon species'''. If you would like to help, please inquire on the [[{{NAMESPACE}} talk:{{PAGENAME}}|talk page]] or the [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/forumdisplay.php?f=195 Bulbapedia forum] and see the [[{{NAMESPACE}}:{{PAGENAME}}/To-do list]].<br /> <br /> =Project Pokédex=<br /> ==Scope and aims==<br /> '''Project Pokédex''' covers all articles about Pokémon species. Its goal is to produce the most comprehensive database on all Pokémon, from basic information on to the most technical aspects possible. It will also encompass any Pokémon Trading Card Game information, any relevant Anime information, and any other canon information which is relevant.<br /> <br /> ==Participants==<br /> <br /> * {{u|Apolo}}<br /> * {{u|misingnoglic}}<br /> * {{u|DanPMK}}<br /> * {{u|Link3710}}<br /> * {{u|Pie}}<br /> * {{u|Taylor}}<br /> * {{u|Pokencyclopedia}}<br /> * {{U|User142}}<br /> * {{u|Thunda night}}<br /> * {{u|Silverwing}}<br /> * {{u|Admachina}}<br /> * {{u|Fabu-Vinny}}<br /> * {{u|Mudkiplover56}}<br /> * {{u|Argy}}<br /> * {{u|PsychoYoshi}}<br /> * {{u|Pterodactal}}<br /> * {{u|Larvinator}}<br /> * {{u|Canopydouble}}<br /> * {{u|Eifie}}<br /> * {{u|SSBMboss}}<br /> * {{u|KronosLinux}}<br /> * {{u|Bootsyt}}<br /> * {{u|Theryguy512}}<br /> * {{u|Patriotfan09}}<br /> * {{u|BirdBrained Alakazam}}<br /> * {{u|dra2k4}}<br /> * {{u|Volcano}}<br /> * {{u|bearfan121}}<br /> * {{u|PokéZoe}}<br /> * {{u|Kittenchild}}<br /> * {{u|Pikachu14}}<br /> * {{u|MewUser}}<br /> <br /> ==Structure==<br /> The best example articles for structure are {{p|Bulbasaur}}, {{p|Charmander}} and {{p|Squirtle}}.<br /> <br /> The Pokémon species articles are increasingly complex. However, to keep articles organized, the names, order and content of the sections should be according to the model below.<br /> <br /> '''Refer to this model frequently when adding sections to a Pokémon species article, as the names, order and content of sections are all being standardized in all species articles. If you would like to update the model, please do so with regard to both the flow of the article and the standards set forth in Bulbapedia's {{bp|manual of style}}. Please consult other participants of the project on the talk page before making major changes to the model, particularly any regrouping or reorganizing of categories.'''<br /> <br /> ===Article model===<br /> <br /> ====Full====<br /> The article should start off with the [[Template:PokémonPrevNext]] bar, followed by the Pokémon Infobox, followed by a general description of the Pokémon, including any special points (such as if it's a starter Pokémon in any games), a brief description of its abilities, and levels or ways in which the Pokémon evolves<br /> <br /> After this, it can be broken into three sections: general information, game statistics, and other information. Note that it is not broken down into these three sections within the articles themselves. Also note that the text for sections should not be indented within the text editor - it is merely indented here to aid in showing the heirarchy of sections.<br /> <br /> '''General information'''<br /> ----<br /> <br /> '''&lt;nowiki&gt;=Biology=&lt;/nowiki&gt;'''<br /> &lt;br&gt;Information in these subsections '''must''' be derived from a canon source, such as the Pokédex entries or the Pokémon anime. '''All speculative information will be removed.'''&lt;br&gt;<br /> :'''&lt;nowiki&gt;==Physiology==&lt;/nowiki&gt;'''<br /> :A description of the Pokémon's physical structure, possible related Pokémon based on similarities, and any physical adaptations the Pokémon has made to its surroundings. Physical variations among members or groups of the species can also be noted here.<br /> ::'''&lt;nowiki&gt;===Gender differences===&lt;/nowiki&gt;'''<br /> ::Any notable difference between males and females in the species, as one would note by comparing the Diamond and Pearl sprites. Alternate gender counterparts, such as with the two genders of Nidoran, are also linked to in this section.<br /> ::'''&lt;nowiki&gt;===Special abilities===&lt;/nowiki&gt;'''<br /> ::A description of any unusual or elemental abilities the Pokémon often displays, such as those related to its elemental type. This is not a place for listing its [[ability]], despite the name; the ability should only be mentioned if it is relevant to this topic.<br /> :'''&lt;nowiki&gt;==Behavior==&lt;/nowiki&gt;'''<br /> :A description of the Pokémon's behavior, both in the wild and after being captured.<br /> :'''&lt;nowiki&gt;==Habitat==&lt;/nowiki&gt;'''<br /> :A description of regions where the Pokémon is commonly found.<br /> :'''&lt;nowiki&gt;==Diet==&lt;/nowiki&gt;'''<br /> :'''&lt;nowiki&gt;''Main article: [[Pokémon food]]''&lt;/nowiki&gt;'''<br /> :All articles should link to the Pokémon food article rather than detail diet characteristics considered universal among Pokémon. Instead, this section should contain a description of any notable or unusual points about the Pokémon's diet.<br /> '''&lt;nowiki&gt;=In the anime=&lt;/nowiki&gt;'''<br /> &lt;br&gt;Only added if the Pokémon appears in the anime. Please link to the Pokémon anime article at the start of this section.<br /> &lt;br&gt;First, any details about the Pokémon species exclusive to the anime. Then, any episodes, movies, and specials from the Pokémon anime where the Pokémon has made an appearance, and a detailed description of their importance and role. For recurring Pokémon, only their first appearance, last appearance, and any particularly important appearances should be listed, with links to the specific Pokémon's article where further details can be found. Appearances should be listed chronologically, regardless of importance.&lt;br&gt;<br /> '''&lt;nowiki&gt;=In the manga=&lt;/nowiki&gt;'''<br /> &lt;br&gt;Only added if the Pokémon appears in a manga series.<br /> &lt;br&gt;This section should be broken down by manga series, divided and listed in the order of Pokémon Special, Electric Tale of Pikachu, Pokémon PiPiPi Adventure, Pokémon Chamo-Chamo ☆ Pretty ♪, and then any other Pokémon manga.<br /> &lt;br&gt;For each series: Please link to the series in the subsection header. First, any details about the Pokémon species exclusive to that manga series. Then, volumes of Pokémon manga in which the Pokémon has made an appearance, and a detailed description of their importance and role. For recurring Pokémon, only their first appearance, last appearance, and any particularly important appearances should be listed, with links to the specific Pokémon's article where further details can be found. Appearances should be listed chronologically, regardless of importance.&lt;br&gt;<br /> '''&lt;nowiki&gt;=In the TCG=&lt;/nowiki&gt;'''<br /> &lt;br&gt;Only added if the Pokémon appears in the TCG. Please link to the Pokémon Trading Card Game article at the start of this section.<br /> &lt;br&gt;All cards in the TCG featuring members of the Pokémon species. Details universal to all of the Pokémon's cards may be added, but essentially, this section should be more or less a list with links to the cards' articles themselves. (To expand said card articles, please see the {{bp|Project TCGDex}}.)&lt;br&gt;<br /> '''&lt;nowiki&gt;=In the TFG=&lt;/nowiki&gt;'''<br /> &lt;br&gt;Only added if the Pokémon appears in the TFG. Please link to the Pokémon Trading Figure Game article at the start of this section.<br /> &lt;br&gt;All figures in the TFG featuring members of the Pokémon species. Details universal to all of the Pokémon's figures may be added, but essentially, this section should be more or less a list with links to the figures' articles themselves. (To expand said figure articles, please see the {{bp|Project TFGDex}}.)&lt;br&gt;<br /> '''&lt;nowiki&gt;=Other appearances=&lt;/nowiki&gt;'''<br /> &lt;br&gt;Places where the Pokémon has been featured in non-Pokémon canon, such as the Super Smash Bros. series. Only added if the Pokémon appears outside of canon. If there is an article on the series in Bulbapedia, please link to it in the subsection header. Otherwise, please link to the appropriate article on Wikipedia in the subsection header.<br /> <br /> <br /> '''Game statistics'''<br /> ----<br /> '''&lt;nowiki&gt;=Game data=&lt;/nowiki&gt;'''<br /> :'''&lt;nowiki&gt;==NPC appearances==&lt;/nowiki&gt;'''<br /> :Details of Pokémon in all games (sans Smash Bros. series) which are seen but cannot be caught. Only add as necessary.<br /> :'''&lt;nowiki&gt;==Pokédex entries==&lt;/nowiki&gt;'''<br /> :A list of the Pokédex entries for the Pokémon in every game which it appears. Please link to the different games' articles, coupling the paired games when the information for them is the same, as well as the Pokédex article itself.&lt;br&gt;<br /> :'''&lt;nowiki&gt;==Game locations==&lt;/nowiki&gt;'''<br /> :Details on the location and rarity of Pokémon in the primary games. Please link to the different games' articles, coupling the paired games when the information for them is the same, as well as the Rarity article. Please link to all locations named in the table, since articles will have the specific rates of appearance for the area. Named locations are listed first in order of appearance in the game, followed by Routes in numerical order with each number linking to the appropriate route. Different methods of capturing, such as in the wild versus fishing, have a break between them.<br /> ::'''&lt;nowiki&gt;===In side games===&lt;/nowiki&gt;'''<br /> ::Details on the location in non-standard games like Pokémon Snap, Pokémon Mystery Dungeon, and Pokémon Ranger. Please have the games in a bulleted list with details. For the Stadium games, assume regular rental Pokémon are common knowledge; do not add it to the list unless it has more information about its appearance, such as prizes, special Pokémon, ones in minigames, or if the moveset information for rentals within the individual Cups is provided as well.<br /> :'''&lt;nowiki&gt;==Base statistics==&lt;/nowiki&gt;'''<br /> :The Pokémon's base statistics, presented in a bar graph form.&lt;br&gt;<br /> :''Note: This section may be undergoing changes soon, due to complaints about the bar graph format.''&lt;br&gt;<br /> :'''&lt;nowiki&gt;==Type effectiveness==&lt;/nowiki&gt;'''<br /> :How well types affect the Pokémon, based on its own type and base stats. Currently, all articles should follow the DP Type Effectiveness format.<br /> :'''&lt;nowiki&gt;==Learnset==&lt;/nowiki&gt;'''<br /> :Moves the Pokémon can learn. ''Sections should not be added if the Pokémon learns no moves in such a manner. In particular, this applies to the Special moves subsection - do not add this section to an article if there are currently no moves the Pokémon can learn through a special method.''<br /> ::'''&lt;nowiki&gt;===By leveling up===&lt;/nowiki&gt;'''<br /> ::Table format.<br /> ::'''&lt;nowiki&gt;===By TM/HM===&lt;/nowiki&gt;'''<br /> ::Table format.<br /> ::'''&lt;nowiki&gt;===By breeding===&lt;/nowiki&gt;'''<br /> ::Table format. For each, please list all potential fathers which the Pokémon can inherit the move from. Do not, however, clutter the article with descriptions of how the fathers can learn the move. Instead, link to the father's article - details on how the father can learn the move should be listed on that article.<br /> ::'''&lt;nowiki&gt;===By tutoring===&lt;/nowiki&gt;'''<br /> ::Bulleted list format.<br /> ::'''&lt;nowiki&gt;===Special moves===&lt;/nowiki&gt;'''<br /> ::Any techniques which a Pokémon can learn in a special way, like Pikachu's Surf or a move learned after purification in Pokémon XD.<br /> :'''&lt;nowiki&gt;==Side game data==&lt;/nowiki&gt;'''<br /> :Table format. Note any factors that differ between species as well as any equivalent to Pokédex entries that the game may have.<br /> :'''&lt;nowiki&gt;==Evolution==&lt;/nowiki&gt;'''<br /> :The Pokémon's detailed evolution chain, shown as different sprites in boxes.<br /> :'''&lt;nowiki&gt;==Sprites==&lt;/nowiki&gt;'''<br /> :Sprites of the Pokémon from all [[main series]] games, using the {{template|Sprite}} template.<br /> <br /> <br /> '''Other information'''<br /> ----<br /> <br /> '''&lt;nowiki&gt;=Trivia=&lt;/nowiki&gt;'''<br /> &lt;br&gt;Any facts which do not fit well into any other section. This includes beta names and relations to any glitch Pokémon, such as if a glitch uses pieces of its sprite or will evolve into it.&lt;br&gt;<br /> :'''&lt;nowiki&gt;==Origin==&lt;/nowiki&gt;'''<br /> :Plants, animals, myths, and anything else which may have served as inspiration for the Pokémon's design.<br /> ::'''&lt;nowiki&gt;===Name origin===&lt;/nowiki&gt;'''<br /> ::Possible base words and inspirations for the Pokémon's name in English and Japanese.<br /> :'''&lt;nowiki&gt;==In other languages==&lt;/nowiki&gt;'''<br /> :The Pokémon's name in languages besides English and Japanese. Possible base words and inspirations for these names may also be added.<br /> '''&lt;nowiki&gt;=Related articles=&lt;/nowiki&gt;'''<br /> &lt;br&gt;A bulleted list of any relevant articles, such as specific characters of the Pokémon in the anime or manga. TCG and TFG link lists should remain in their own sections and not be inlcuded in this subsection.&lt;br&gt;<br /> '''&lt;nowiki&gt;=External links=&lt;/nowiki&gt;'''<br /> &lt;br&gt;A bulleted list of links to other pages, such as the Pokémon's entry on Wikipedia, or fan shrines for the Pokémon. Links to the Pokémon's entry in a Pokédex section of another website should be included in the infobox, not the external links section.&lt;br&gt;<br /> <br /> <br /> After this, there should be another [[Template:PokémonPrevNext]] bar, followed by a [[Template:Project Pokédex notice]] box to finish the article.<br /> <br /> ====Abbreviated====<br /> This format is for quick reference, when checking to see if an article matches the model. Headers which are in bold are required for all articles. Other headers should only be added when applicable.<br /> '''=Biology='''<br /> '''==Physiology=='''<br /> '''===Gender differences==='''<br /> '''===Special abilities==='''<br /> '''==Behavior=='''<br /> '''==Habitat=='''<br /> '''==Diet=='''<br /> '''&lt;nowiki&gt;''Main article: [[Pokémon food]]''&lt;/nowiki&gt;'''<br /> =In the anime=<br /> =In the manga=<br /> =In the TCG=<br /> =In the TFG=<br /> =Other appearances=<br /> '''=Game data='''<br /> ==NPC appearances==<br /> '''==Pokédex entries=='''<br /> '''==Game locations=='''<br /> '''===In side games==='''<br /> '''==Base statistics=='''<br /> '''==Type effectiveness=='''<br /> '''==Learnset=='''<br /> ===By leveling up=== <br /> ===By TM/HM=== <br /> ===By breeding=== <br /> ===By tutoring=== <br /> ===Special moves=== <br /> '''==Side game data=='''<br /> '''==Evolution=='''<br /> '''==Sprites=='''<br /> =Trivia=<br /> ==Origin== <br /> ===Name origin===<br /> ==In other languages== <br /> =Related articles=<br /> =External links=<br /> <br /> ===Tables within the articles===<br /> Basic formatting for a Pokémon species article table is as follows:<br /> <br /> &lt;nowiki&gt;{| border=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;2&quot;&lt;/nowiki&gt;<br /> &lt;br&gt;|- style=&quot;background: #COLOR;&quot;<br /> &lt;br&gt;! Heading<br /> &lt;br&gt;! Heading<br /> &lt;br&gt;|-<br /> &lt;br&gt;| Content<br /> &lt;br&gt;| Content<br /> &lt;br&gt;|}<br /> <br /> <br /> Replace the &quot;COLOR&quot; with the template for the color code of the Pokémon's primary type - or, if their primary type is Normal and they have a secondary type, the color code of the Pokémon's secondary type. The template's name is the type name and &quot;color&quot;. For example, &lt;nowiki&gt;{{grass color}}&lt;/nowiki&gt; is the template for a Grass-type Pokémon.<br /> <br /> ==Goals==<br /> # Expand Pokémon pages to have at least a paragraph of information about a Pokémon, preferably background information on that Pokémon. The {{p|Bulbasaur}} page is a good example of a simple introduction paragraph.<br /> # Add all locations in all games, including the side games ([[Pokémon Snap]], [[Pokémon Pinball]], [[Pokémon Pinball: Ruby/Sapphire]], [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon]], [[Pokémon Trozei]], and [[Pokémon Ranger]], to name some of the more important ones).<br /> # Add all movelists.<br /> # Add [[Pokédex]] text info from games, where applicable.<br /> # Add Biology information to each Pokémon species article.<br /> # Add information on any appearances in the anime, including the specific episodes.<br /> # Add information on any appearances in all manga, including the series and volume.<br /> # List all released cards of the Pokémon.<br /> <br /> ==Infoboxes==<br /> When entering information into any of the infoboxes, make sure to preview before saving the page, to make sure that you've entered everything right. If you don't know something, leave it blank.<br /> * {{Template|PokémonInfobox}}<br /> <br /> {| border=1 style=&quot;background: #f8f8ff; border: 1px solid #88a; border-collapse: collapse; float: right; margin: 0 0 0.5em 0.5em;&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;2&quot;<br /> |-<br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background: #ccf; text-align: center;&quot; | '''Bulbasaur'''&lt;br /&gt;'''フシギダネ''' ''Fushigidane''<br /> |-<br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;text-align: center; background: #fff;&quot; | [[Image:001Bulbasaur.png]]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;small &gt;Artwork from FR/LG&lt;/small &gt;<br /> |-<br /> | style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot; | '''[[List of Pokémon by National Dex number|National Dex]]'''<br /> | #001<br /> |-<br /> | style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot; | '''[[List of Pokémon by Johto Dex number|Johto Dex]]'''<br /> | #226<br /> |-<br /> | style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot; | '''[[List of Pokémon by Hoenn Dex number|Hoenn Dex]]'''<br /> | #203<br /> |-<br /> | style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot; | '''[[List of Pokémon by Sinnoh Dex number|Sinnoh Dex]]'''<br /> | #-<br /> |-<br /> | style=&quot;text-align: right; white-space: nowrap;&quot; | '''[[Elemental types|Type]]'''<br /> | [[Grass (type)|Grass]] / [[Poison (type)|Poison]]<br /> |-<br /> | style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot; | '''Species'''<br /> | Seed<br /> |-<br /> {{PokémonInfobox/Abilities/1|Overgrow|}}<br /> |-<br /> {{PokémonInfobox/Egg groups/2|Monster|Plant}}<br /> |-<br /> | style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot; | '''[[Effort values|Effort yield]]'''<br /> | 1 SpA<br /> |-<br /> | style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot; | '''[[Experience|Exp. yield]]'''<br /> | 64 base exp.<br /> |-<br /> | style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot; | '''[[Experience|Lv100 at]]'''<br /> | 1,059,860 exp.<br /> |-<br /> | style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot; | '''Gender'''<br /> | {{PokémonInfobox/Gender/both|12.5|87.5}}<br /> |-<br /> | style=&quot;text-align: right;&quot; | '''[[Catch rate]]'''<br /> | 45<br /> |-<br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;font-size: 0.90em;&quot; | <br /> * [http://pokefor.greenchu.de/zukan/gba/pokemon/bulbasaur/ Bulbasaur on PokéFor Pokédex]<br /> * [http://www.smogon.com/dex.php?p=pokemon&amp;q=bulbasaur Bulbasaur on Smogon Pokédex]<br /> * [http://eevee.racso.com/dex.pl?entry=bulbasaur Bulbasaur on Eevee's Pokédex]<br /> |}<br /> To make the infobox at the right appear in the article, paste this into it:<br /> &lt;pre&gt;<br /> {{PokémonInfobox|<br /> name=Bulbasaur |<br /> jname=フシギダネ |<br /> tmname=Fushigidane |<br /> image=001Bulbasaur.png |<br /> caption=Artwork from FR/LG |<br /> ndex=001 |<br /> jdex=226 |<br /> hdex=203 |<br /> fdex=001 |<br /> sdex=- |<br /> typen=2 |<br /> type1=Grass |<br /> type2=Poison |<br /> species=Seed |<br /> height-ftin=2'04&quot; |<br /> height-m=0.7 |<br /> weight-lbs=15.2 |<br /> weight-kg=6.9 |<br /> abilityn=1 |<br /> ability1=Overgrow |<br /> ability2= |<br /> egggroupn=2 |<br /> egggroup1=Monster |<br /> egggroup2=Plant |<br /> effortyield=1 SpA |<br /> expyield=64 |<br /> lv100exp=1,059,860 |<br /> gender=both |<br /> female=12.5 |<br /> male=87.5 |<br /> color=Green |<br /> catchrate=45 |<br /> generation=1 |<br /> pokefordex=bulbasaur |<br /> footnotes=}}<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;<br /> Change all stats to those of the Pokémon in question.<br /> &lt;br style=&quot;clear: both&quot;&gt;<br /> *{{Template|Availability}}<br /> <br /> {{Availability|<br /> type=grass |<br /> gen=1 |<br /> rbrarity=One |<br /> rbarea=[[Starter Pokémon]] from [[Professor Oak]] in [[Pallet Town]] |<br /> yrarity=One |<br /> yarea=Recieved from a girl in [[Cerulean City]] if {{p|Pikachu}}'s [[happiness]] is high enough |<br /> frlgrarity=One |<br /> frlgarea=[[Starter Pokémon]] from [[Professor Oak]] in [[Pallet Town]] |<br /> dprarity=None |<br /> dparea=[[Pal Park]] |<br /> palarea=Field |<br /> }}<br /> To make the above appear, copy and paste what follows into the article:<br /> &lt;pre&gt;<br /> {{Availability|<br /> type= |<br /> gen= |<br /> rbrarity= |<br /> rbarea= |<br /> yrarity= |<br /> yarea= |<br /> gsrarity= |<br /> gsarea= |<br /> crarity= |<br /> carea= |<br /> rsrarity= |<br /> rsarea= |<br /> erarity= |<br /> earea= |<br /> frlgrarity= |<br /> frlgarea= |<br /> colorarity= |<br /> coloarea= |<br /> xdrarity= |<br /> xdarea= |<br /> dprarity= |<br /> dparea= |<br /> palarea= |<br /> }}<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;<br /> Rarity and Area refer to how common or uncommon a Pokémon is. What precedes them are the initials of the versions that the specific instance applies to, [[Pokémon Red and Blue|RB]], [[Pokémon Yellow|Y]], [[Pokémon Gold and Silver|GS]], [[Pokémon Crystal|C]], [[Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire|RS]], [[Pokémon Emerald|E]], [[Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen|FRLG]], [[Pokémon Colosseum|Colo]], [[Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness|XD]], and [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl|DP]]. For example, whatever is entered into the frlgarea should be where the Pokémon can be found in FireRed and LeafGreen. Likewise, frlgrarity should be how rare the Pokémon is in FireRed and LeafGreen. If only one is found, such as is the case with {{p|Mewtwo}}, put &quot;One&quot;. If it can only be found through evolution, put &quot;None&quot; and for the area prompt put &quot;[[Evolve]] (pre-evolution)&quot;, replacing (pre-evolution) with the name of the Pokémon it evolves from. Likewise, if it is only available through breeding, put &quot;None&quot; and in the area prompt put &quot;[[Breed]] (evolutions)&quot;, replacing (evolutions) with the Pokémon that must produce the egg.<br /> <br /> Rarity defaults to &quot;None&quot;, Area defaults to &quot;[[Trade]]&quot;. Therefore, if it can only be found through [[Pal Park]] in Diamond and Pearl, this must be entered in the dparea prompt. If a Pokémon is only available in one of a pair of versions, put the version it is available in in parentheses after the area. If it is a [[Shadow Pokémon]] found in Colosseum or XD, put &lt;nowiki&gt;[[Shadow Pokémon|Shadow]]&lt;/nowiki&gt; in parentheses after the area.<br /> <br /> * {{Template|Dex}}<br /> <br /> {{Dex<br /> |type=grass<br /> |redbluedex=A strange seed was planted on its back at birth. The plant sprouts and grows with this Pokémon.<br /> |yellowdex=It can go for days without eating a single morsel. In the bulb on its back, it stores energy.<br /> |golddex=The seed on its back is filled with nutrients. The seed grows steadily larger as its body grows.<br /> |silverdex=It carries a seed on its back right from birth. As it grows older, the seed also grows larger.<br /> |crystaldex=While it is young, it uses the nutrients that are stored in the seeds on its back in order to grow.<br /> |rubydex=Bulbasaur can be seen napping in bright sunlight. There is a seed on its back. By soaking up the sun's rays, the seed grows progressively larger.<br /> |sapphiredex=Bulbasaur can be seen napping in bright sunlight. There is a seed on its back. By soaking up the sun's rays, the seed grows progressively larger.<br /> |emeralddex=Bulbasaur can be seen napping in bright sunlight. There is a seed on its back. By soaking up the sun's rays, the seed grows progressively larger.<br /> |firereddex=There is a plant seed on its back right from the day this Pokémon is born. The seed slowly grows larger.<br /> |leafgreendex=A strange seed was planted on its back at birth. The plant sprouts and grows with this Pokémon.<br /> |stadiumdex=The bulb-like pouch on its back grows larger as it ages. The pouch is filled with numerous seeds.<br /> |stadium2dex=The seed on its back is filled with nutrients. The seed grows steadily larger as its body grows.<br /> |colosseumdex=Lives in forests away from people. It stores electricity in its cheeks for zapping an enemy if it is attacked.<br /> |}}<br /> To make the above appear, copy and paste what follows in the article:<br /> &lt;pre&gt;<br /> {{Dex<br /> |type=<br /> |gen=<br /> |redbluedex=<br /> |yellowdex=<br /> |golddex=<br /> |silverdex=<br /> |crystaldex=<br /> |rubydex=<br /> |sapphiredex=<br /> |emeralddex=<br /> |firereddex=<br /> |leafgreendex=<br /> |stadiumdex=<br /> |stadium2dex=<br /> |colosseumdex=<br /> |xddex=<br /> |diamonddex=<br /> |pearldex=<br /> |}}<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;<br /> If an entry is unknown, delete the tag for it (that's the stuff between the | and the =, as well as the | and =). This will put the page into a category so that someone who knows what the entry is can put it in.<br /> <br /> * {{template|Sprite}}<br /> {{Sprite|<br /> type=grass|<br /> gen=1|<br /> gender=none|<br /> ndex=001|<br /> name=Bulbasaur|<br /> }}<br /> To make the above appear, copy and paste what follows in the article:<br /> &lt;pre&gt;<br /> {{Sprite<br /> |type=<br /> |gen=<br /> |gender=<br /> |ndex=<br /> |name=<br /> |}}<br /> &lt;/pre&gt;<br /> Type should be the Pokémon's primary type (or Flying if the Pokémon is {{t|Normal}}/{{t|Flying}}). Gen should be the Pokémon's introduction generation (1 for Pokémon #001-151, 2 for Pokémon #152-251, 3 for Pokémon #252-386, 4 for Pokémon #387-493). If the Pokémon have a gender difference, put 'both', otherwise put 'none'. Ndex should be the Pokémon's [[National Dex]] number, and name should be the name of the Pokémon.<br /> <br /> Note: We have relatively few of the sprites uploaded to the Bulbagarden Archives. Please, if you can, try to upload some before adding the template to the page. Make sure, of course, to upload them to the correct, standardized filename.<br /> <br /> ==Other templates==<br /> * {{Template|Project Pokédex notice}} -- to be used at the bottom of every Pokémon article.<br /> <br /> {{Project Pokédex notice}}<br /> <br /> * {{Template|User Project Pokédex}} -- for project participants to place in their user profile.<br /> <br /> {{User Project Pokédex}}<br /> &lt;br clear=all&gt;<br /> <br /> =Other projects=<br /> ==Parent project==<br /> This project has no parent project.<br /> <br /> ==Subprojects==<br /> No subprojects have been defined.<br /> <br /> ==Related projects==<br /> No related projects have been named.<br /> <br /> [[Category:Bulbapedia projects|{{PAGENAME}}]]<br /> [[ja:ポケモンWiki:ポケモン図鑑プロジェクト]]</div>

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