Talk:Shiny Pokémon/Archive 1

2009-01-11T14:00:17Z

Mence Master: /* Shiny Issue */

> can someone explain the ratio thing with the xor an everything? [[User:Squeela|this S**T will turn your mama white]] 16:18, 14 November 2008 (UTC)squeela[[User:Squeela| this S**T will turn your mama white]] 16:18, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

>In the TCG, shiny Pokémon are called "shining" Pokémon.

Yes and no. There's "shining" cards, "crystal" cards, and the new ones that don't have a collecive name but are denoted by a star on them (so are commonly called "stars" or "shining stars")- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Blackjack Gabbiani|Blackjack Gabbiani]] ([[User talk:Blackjack Gabbiani|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Blackjack Gabbiani|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''

:Crystal cards had the same Pokemon coloring as regular ones. "Shining" was the official name and i don't know why people use that crappy "shiny" word... --[[User:AtoMan|AtoMan]] 10:17, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

>If you evolve a shiny pokemon, will it stay shiny? [[User:Therequiembellishere|Therequiembellishere]] 19:05, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Yes, although sometimes the coloration of it will change. Shiny Charmeleon changes from off-red to a black Charizard, for instance. --[[User:Zeta|Zeta]] 21:05, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

It's the same as a red Charmeleon becoming an orange Charizard. Regular becomes regular, shiny becomes shiny. It's another status like the nature. [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 00:05, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry but the {{p|Kecleon}} seen in [[EP205]] is not a shiny pokémon. To my knowledge an alternate colored Kecleon is turquoise not purple. -- {{u|Kenji-girl}}

: If it's not a normally-coloured Pokémon it must, logically, be an alternately-coloured Pokémon. It doesn't matter if it doesn't match the precise alternate colouration of the games. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 10:45, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

::Technically, yes; "alternately colored" means, technically, it's simply a different color. "Shiny" is a different story, however. [[User:Urutapu|Urutapu]] 18:27, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

:Those purple Kecleon are like that because... they're Kecleon, simple as it sounds. Not sure how to word it in the article, but it's not surprising that a chameleon Pokémon can have color variations, either because the interpretation of its traits is to blend with its surroundings (field Kecleon, pinball, anime) or changing its type via {{a|Color Change}}. This is too similar to discussing [[Smeargle (Pokémon)#Pokédex entries|the Crystal Pokédex entry for Smeargle]] --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 20:54, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

==Breeding chance in Gen IV==
Though I haven't found any definite sources, apparently the odds of breeding a shiny pokemon to have a shiny offspring is 1/8192, as much as finding a regular shiny. Is this true? If so, this renders Shiny dittos practically useless. [[User:Razor|Razor]] 07:18, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

: As useless as shiny Pokemon are regularly, but yes. It's the same odds as it would be with a regular Pokemon. --[[User:Porygon|Porygon]] 09:44, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

::Though really, a shiny Pokémon is no more useless than a regular one, since it's no longer determined on stats. --'''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 17:44, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

the chances are exactly the same - its only in GSC that its a 1/64 of a shiny parents egg being shiny [[user: adambesthythe]]

== Shiny Pokemon ==

Would it be worth it if we put in a Section or even a whole new page that showed a normal Pokemon's sprite along with it's Shiny sprite image? [[User:Tesh|Tesh]] 17:11, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
I think it is a good idea because it would be interesting to see.[[User:Tesh|Tesh]] 10:05, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

== Include 4th Gen formulas? ==

I think this article should include the formulas for determining whether or not a pokemon is shiny from its MAP and OT IDs. Any objections? Also, the probability of obtaining a shiny in Gens 3/4 should be corrected to the correct value, 1/8192, not 2/65025. Where did that number come from, anyway?
--[[User:Reuvens|Reuvens]] 22:15, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
:I think the second number is the chance that a Pokémon will contract Pokérus. :/ Good idea, by the way. -- [[User:Umbee|Umbee]] 19:52, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
I think I've found the source of this ridiculous number, after a little bit of futzing. 256^2 is 65536, and the chance of encountering a shiny is 8/65536. However, 255^2 is 65025, and so it's possible that someone hit a wrong button on their calculator when trying to calculate chances. Unfortunately, I doubt that figuring any of this out is going to change the fact that a whole bunch of people are now misreporting the odds as 2/65025 simply by virtue of it previously being on Bulbapedia. Hopefully it'll die out soon.-- [[User:Reuvens|Reuvens]] 01:12, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

== Shiny Egg? ==
If a shiny pokemon has an [[Pokémon egg|egg]], will the pokemon that hatches from the egg be shiny? [[User:Theryguy512|Ryguy]]
:In Generation II, there was a sort of "gene" system where a shiny's offspring would more likely be shiny. However, Generation III got rid of that system. You have the same chances of finding a wild shiny as hatching a shiny, whether the parent was shiny or not.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 22:32, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

==It was the legendary Red Snorlax==
Look, I know Shiny Snorlax are blue, but the Snorlax in [[H012|''Training Daze]]'' was the legendary Red Snorlax. It wasn't a real Snorlax, because it turns out in the end that the Snorlax was [[Viper]], the Drill Sergeant of the [[Team Rocket Academy]] in disguise.

== Mystery Dungeon Shinies ==

Rumor has it that you can get shinies in Mystery Dungeon 2... specifically, a shiny Celebi mission or something. Anybody have Time Version to back this up? [[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|The]][[Kirlia (Pokémon)|Kirlia]] ♥ [[Image:281MS.gif]] 21:52, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

*You can't get shinies in PMD2, however, you do come across a Shiny Celebi in the future world in the main plot of the game. Otherwise, no, you can't get them. --[[User:Jonouchi|Ricco]] 15:27, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

==Fossils==
Can the revived fossils in Gen IV be shiny if you try enough? Or is it preset when you first give the guy the fossil? [[Image:Ani164MS.gif]][[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny]][[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|?]][[Special:Contributions/Shiny Noctowl|!]] 01:17, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
:If by "try enough" you mean "give him enough fossils". I think it's preset when you give him the fossil, so just save before doing so, give him the fossil, run out, back in, see if it's shiny, soft reset, repeat. '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:29, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

== Shiny ditto ==

If you have a ditto that is shiny and it uses transform does the pokéemon it transforms into be shiny?--[[Image:Ani052MS.gif]][[Image:Ani300MS.gif]][[Image:Ani431MS.gif]][[User:kittenchild|kittenchild and her discovery]][[Image:Ani264MS.gif]] 01:24, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
:Yes. However, if the Pokémon you trasform into is shiny, and Ditto/Mew is not, it'll be regular. {{ani|281}}[[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Sandbox|☆]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Favorites|♥]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]][http://freewebs.com/thepixelcafe δ]{{ani|282}} 01:26, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

will it bread shinny Pokemon? [[User:Cerberus|Cerberus]]
:No. That's only in {{gen|II}}, unfortunatly. I kept breeding my Vaporeon with a shiny Wooper, in hopes that I'd get a shiny Eevee, but 150 eggs later I gave up. Fail! :p [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 16:05, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

No. <big>{{ani|486}}[[User:Tesh|'''TESH''']]{{ani|377}}[[User Talk:Tesh|'''TALK''']]{{ani|378}}[[User:Tesh/Other|'''FUN''']]{{ani|379}}</big> 16:05, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Rats. [[User:Cerberus|Cerberus]] 13:56, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

== Starly clock ==
Wasn't the clock Dawn owned in [[DP001]] a shiny starly??? --[[Image:Spr 3e 059.gif|70px]][[Image:Spr 3e 132.gif]]'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Mission Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Games|2]]''' [[Image:Trozeiani025.gif]] 01:29, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

So would shiny Noctowl be 光るヨルノズク? [[Image:164sMS.png]][[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny]][[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|?]][[Special:Contributions/Shiny Noctowl|!]] 20:38, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
:Hikaru Yorunozuku? I think so. Google's translation officially says "lucent". however. '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:36, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
::I wouldn't trust Google's translations if my life depended on it. :[--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 05:30, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

== The Prima guides ==

As well as using other non-explicit terms from the game such as [[Effort values]], Volume 2 of the Diamond & Pearl Prima guide mentions ''shiny Pokémon'' and even mentions the possibility of getting those Pokémon easily via the [[Poké Radar]]. I know those guides are authorized by Nintendo because they are sold by [[Pokémon Center (store)|PokemonCenter]]. However, how much of the content is "official"? --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 20:54, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

== Question for G/S/C ==

...do you need a shiny Ditto to pass on shiny genes, or does it work for any shiny '''in Gold and Silver'''? Right now, I'm breeding a male Red Gyarados with a female Dratini, so I can get a shiny one, but halfway through riding on the bike through Route 34 and Goldenrod, I forgot whether shininess is only passed down through a Ditto, or any shiny. Bah! If someone could clear this up for me, it'd be appreciated! [[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/TinaTheKirlia|δ]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]]{{MS|281}} 18:49, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
:Hmmm... I think the shiny gene is passed through any shiny Pokémon. A shiny Ditto is widely used for breeding shinies because it can breed with anything. [[User:Tesh|'''TESHIGIGAS''']] 18:54, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
::Shinyness IS passed on thru anything in GSC. 1/64 chance if both parents are shiny, and 1/256 chance if one is shiny.

== question ==

i have a question
in gen IV, will every trainer see a shiny pokémon ssoner or later?
i had a green and blue tentacool once, but i erased my file
am i done for shiny pokémon?

idk but once i saw a shiny Girafarig once . and i also hatched a shiny happiny. from that happiny egg from the hiker and it was shiny, but once it evolved it was regular. has this ever happened before on pokémon game history, or is it my game, or is it a glitch????0.o

No, you aren't. It's just hard to find a shiny Pokémon. Remember that there is a very small chance of finding one. -Metagross72
:Math says yes.Out of every 65536 pokemon you see, at least 8 of the m should be shiny[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|DCM]]
:Shinies evolve into shinies. Maybe you just thought it was. Another thing could be due to the fact that Chansey and Blissey's shiny sprites aren't spectacularly different from the regulars. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:06, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

==Foreign Aid==

"rare colored Pokemon's Egg can be found little easier"

That line is from http://www.gamefreak.co.jp/blog/dir_english/?p=30 . It talks about the GTS and the benefits of using Pokemon from another country. Among these is "Rare Colored Pokemon's Egg can be found little easier." I'm surprised it isn't noted here yet... does anyone have any additional information?--[[User:PikamasterADV|PikamasterADV]] 04:44, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

==I luv Mathmatics==
Someone help me please... I don't understand those complex formulas (sorry). Can someone explain me in english this thing? If I catch a pokemon 25 times (all of them with different personalities) will 1 be shiny or not? [[User:Hfc2x|Hfc2x]] 18:52, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
:The answer is simple. No. It's a one out of 8192 chance of being shiny, not 1 out of 25. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]{{MS|281}} 19:15, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
::But what does a pokemon need to be shiny? (that was the correct question :P) how does the personality affect that? [[User:Hfc2x|Hfc2x]] 19:46, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
:::The personality value is a hidden value anyway; it's not the ''nature''. It determines it, like it determines gender, Wurmple's evolution, and so on. But they're all unrelated. Shininess is also determined by the Trainer's ID number, I believe. So there's likely very few possible gender/final form/nature combos for a shiny Wurmple. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]][[Image:Ani155MS.gif|Fire echy]]''' 20:15, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

== Shiny ==

If a Pokemon is shiny, would it have higher stats than a normal Pokemon, or would they just be just another Pokemon, but a different color? [[User:Zapdos|Zapdos]] 20:58, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
:Only in GS it would have different ("better") stats. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]]{{MS|281}} 21:03, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
::Not really "better", just "specific" stats. It'd have all 10's except in Def. and Sp.Def, I think, while the max is 15. In Gen III and IV, though, it has the same random stats any Pokémon does. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]][[Image:Ani155MS.gif|Fire echy]]''' 22:13, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

== Alternate Colouration ==

Shouldn't this link here? Not everyone here uses American English ([[User:GT4GTR|GT4GTR]] 02:43, 4 May 2008 (UTC))
:yes. done. i was talking about this the other day with another user. any more of these, you tell me, i can take care of it in a jiffy. (and other people too really) -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 03:01, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

==Weedle==
wait there was a weedle in the ultimate test that was colored green. is that worth metioning? [[User:ShinyMedicham]]

== Red number colour in Gen IV? ==

I have been Pokésaving some Pokémon so that they are shiny. Can anyone confirm that if the Pokémon is shiny, the colour of the number in their summary page is red?[[User:GJPal|GJ]] 01:29, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
:My shiny Pokémon have red Pokédex numbers, and they aren't hacked. --[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 01:36, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
::Alright, thank you. I just wanted to make sure it wasn't a mistake I made while hacking.[[User:GJPal|GJ]] 01:40, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

== Breeding chance in Gen II ==

I noticed that it says there is as high as a 1/64 chance of breeding a shiny Pokémon in Gen II. I recently hatched 5 eggs in my Silver version. I used a shiny male Gyarados (from the Lake of Rage) and a female Dragonite. When all 5 eggs hatched I had 2 male and 3 female Dratini. The weird thing was that 2 females were shiny. If the chances are really 1/64 than the odds of that happening are about 1/430. With only 5 samples, its not enough info to say whether this was just luck or maybe our hypotheses about breeding need to be looked over. Any thoughts? [[User:Stewy5714|Stewy5714]] 15:31, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

== Shiny legendary pokémon? ==

Is it possible to get a shiny legendary without cheating or a promotional event? Or are all normally obtainable legendaries a fixed color?

:Legendary Pokémon have the same rate of being shiny as any other Pokémon. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 16:26, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

:You just have to try a few times until you battle a shiny legendary... well a little more than a few times LOL xD '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 03:19, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

When is the shininess or nonshininess of a legendary decided? When you battle the legendary or before? i.e. if I battle a legendary, lose, turn off the game, whaever, and reload, would there be a chance of it being an alternate color the second time?

It really is not worth trying. Do you have any idea how long you would potentially have to play? You could play for three weeks without sleep of constantly battling the legendary, turning the game off and all that and still not get that shiny legendary. The chace is 1 in 8192....that doesn't mean you can battle it 8191 times and 8192nd one with DEFINATELY be shiny. Its a 1 in 8192 chance every time. Whenever I come across someone with a shiny legendary, it's common sense to assume they hacked it.[[User:Bttsstewart|Bttsstewart]] 05:50, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

== Kecleon ==

Why is Kecleon mentioned here? Read the Pokédex description. It's perfectly normal for a Kecleon to be any colour, as long as its zigzag is red. It's normal behaviour for a Kecleon. --[[User:Someone Else|Someone Else]] 00:37, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
:Due to body camouflage. The purple one is most certainly not camouflaging. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:10, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

== Orange Islands ==

Is it worth mentioning the Pokémon from the Orange Islands in the Animé? Some of the Pokémon were coloured (and patterned) differently so would that count? --☆[[User:Woodland Mudkip|Woodland:M]] ☆ 10:05, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

:Not really.--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''Pika''']][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|'''chu!''']] 10:05, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

::Do you mean the pink ones? If so, then no, they don't count. They weren't shiny. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|electAbuzzzz]] ([[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|TALK]]) 10:08, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Maybe! They might be referring to the Vileplume and Butterfree in Pokéball Peril--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 12:05, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
:Yes - I mean the Pokémon at professor Ivy's lab. She said they were different due to the climate or something. This article doesn't just talk about shinies so it seems relevant. --☆[[User:Woodland Mudkip|Woodland:M]] ☆ 22:51, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
::Remember guys, who makes the rules... THE GAMES! This article exist because of the shiny Pokémon exist in the games, and THEN they existed in the anime. The orange islands Pokémon are not the same as shiny, so it's not relevant to put it in the article. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 00:05, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Since when? We mention the purple Kecleon yet its not in the games. This doesn't mean "shiny only". It means Pokémon that are a color that they aren't usually. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 02:07, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

== Reliability of sprites? ==

Just an odd question; are the shiny sprites for each Pokémon completely legitimate? I remember when I was younger playing Crystal version I found a red Caterpie, though Caterpie are said to be gold whilst shiny. My friend also tells me she has a maroon Luvdisc, although I don't know how reliable that information is since I've never seen it. [[User:Gabbie|Gabbie]] 00:05, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
:All sprites have been taken from inside the game data (at least the ones which I've uploaded), so I can tell you they're reliable. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 00:44, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

I can hack games and see the sprites in the roms and each Pokémon only gets one normal sprite and back sprite and one shiny sprite and back sprite and none of the sprites you say exist are in any Pokémon games.Darkmaster0 00:57, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

== Sprites missing ==

Here are a few facts that surprised me. We don't have shiny sprites for {{p|Goldeen}} or {{p|Torchic}}!

Also, not so surprisingly, we don't have sprites for Shiny Unowns BCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ!?, but this is understandable, as we have hardly any Unown sprites at all.

Do the sprites not exist or were they simply missed? [[User:Gligar|Gli]][[User talk:Gligar|gar]] 19:52, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

:Not all sprites have been uploaded. It's simply work in progress. You're welcome to help upload missing sprites - I upload some every once in a while... --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|electAbuzzzz]] ([[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|TALK]]) 19:54, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

== Pokemon Stadium ==

This says they could have "slightly" different colors. xD That made me laugh. The color variations in Stadium and (especially) Stadium 2 could be anywhere from miniscule to OUTRAGEOUS. I swear on Tajiri's grave I had a female Nidoran (actually Spot, from the boy south of Cerulean) who throughout her life looked male on Stadium 2. As a Nidoqueen, this became far worse than ever before, as she became a perfect shade of Nidoking purple with the teal ears, and a lighter creamy pastel teal for her face/torso accents. x3 Spot was awesome, lol. Incidentally, as the same NidoranF could be obtained on any Red or Blue, I tried it with a couple different game paks and never got another with her colors.

Poliwag were another one that was awesome. Typically for me, their skin ranged from teal to bright purple, while their lips could be any color of the rainbow. xD I had two full boxes on Stadium 2 of stored Poliwag just seeing how many different ones I could find. x3 Man, good ol' Stadium, neh? [[User:Heart of Thorns|Heart of Thorns]] 07:29, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
:Ahha. I haven't played Stadium in a very long time, but damn do i remember the strange colors some would come out with. I might have had a glitchy game or something, i mean, if i remember rightly i had a yellow-y green Charmander at some point *sighs* Ah, good times. [[User:Takoto|~~Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 09:17, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

== Ho-Oh Error ==

"The first Pokémon with its official alternate coloration seen was also the first Generation II Pokémon to be seen, a Ho-Oh seen by Ash in the first episode."

This sentence, from the way I read it, seems to claim that the first shiny Pokémon in the anime to match its alternate coloration in the games is the Ho-Oh in the first episode. Correction: Ho-Oh was covered entirely in a golden aura; We have no way of telling whether this is actually an alternate coloration or not. While one could argue that the colors we do see are not the same as its regular colors in-game, the depicted coloration isn't identical to its "official" shiny form either. It's just a Ho-Oh with a fully golden appearance due to the aura surrounding it. [[User:Marlowe|Marlowe]] 03:42, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

= I agree, There is no evidence that it was 'officially' "alternate colored" (however you Americans spell colour) ([[User:GT4GTR|GT4GTR]] 23:11, 25 December 2008 (UTC))

==Shiny Issue==
There is also a shiny Seaking in the FR/LG Trainer Tower, as shown in another page in Bulbapedia. The problem is, I can't undo the little box around it, and I didn't do anything to add it. Please just remove that, and it'll be good. Thanks,--[[User:Mence Master|Mence Master]] 01:04, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
EDIT: Disregard, it undid it by itself. Or another user helped out, but whatever, it's good now.
:For the record, that happens when you place a space before text:
like so.
[[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 01:10, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Okay,thanks.

Now onto that little Toxicroak Debate.

==Toxicroak Debate==
There was a blue one in Giratina and the Sky Warrior.
And no, it wasn't JUST the filter. It was the Toxicroak's coloration.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a350/Xous/GiratinaOriginAvatarXous2.png
If you look closely, it is blue.

2009-01-05T01:02:49Z

Mence Master: /* Generations III and IV */

User:Mence Master

2009-01-05T00:56:42Z

Mence Master:

=~Welcome to my Page!~=
Hey, I'm new to Bulbapedia (Well, at least joining. I have gone here for the past year or so to collect some information, and such)

=~Biography~=
I'll make one when I'm sure nobody out there cares THAT badly.

=~Pokemon Career~=
I used to watch Pokemon all the time, when it was just beginning to be the GBA Era, back in 2004. I started disliking it the next year. I got back into it in 2007, with Pokemon Ruby. So then, I collected all of the main series games, from FireRed to Pearl. I am still into it very much, and will be getting the G/S/C Remakes, along with Platinum.

=~Shiny Hunting Business~=
http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb187/Minirizzle/ShinyUxie.png
Uxie was my first Soft Reset shiny, and I am very proud of it. It took over 12,000 resets to get, with 12,000 on one profile, and a mere twelve on another. The IVs are fairly bad, but I am still one to boast it.

http://pokedox.com/images/pokemon/Shiny%20Darkrai.gif
Darkrai came the day after Uxie, December 27, 2008. I had used the Tweaking Glitch to reach it, and started soft resetting. About one hour later, after around 100 resets, it was shiny. Like Uxie, it has terrible IVs, but it is still a glory shiny.

I have many other shinies, but all were gotten using the Pokeradar, although I found a shiny Vibrava at the minor chain of 2, but that was not the full 1/8192 chance.

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2009-01-05T00:56:24Z

Mence Master:

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Thank you, and have a good time editing here! --~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 15:56, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

== shipping templates ==

I found some cool templates.

{*{User Favorite Shipping|AdvanceShipping.jpg|AdvanceShipping}} 
{*{User Favorite Shipping|AshMay&Ribbon.jpg|AdvanceShipping}}

Remove the asterisks and see how they look like.

thank me later XD [[User:Sp1derp1g|Sp1derp1g]] 00:27, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
Hey, for your "This user's favorite shipping is Advanceshipping tag, this picture'll look good [[Image:AshMay&Ribbon.jpg|thumb|right]]
:Thanks Rob, looks great! [[User:The Dark Fiddler|Rawr I say!]] 10:58, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

== Signature policy ==

According to our {{bp|signature policy}}, users' signatures have to at least indicate their username. That means, despite "Rawr I say!" being an admittedly cool phrase, your sig has to include "The Dark Fiddler" in some way, shape, or form. You could do something using "Rawr I say" to link to your talk page. The policy page has more information about customizing your signature, so I'd recommend checking that out for more information. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 22:51, 8 October 2008 (UTC:I)
:I thought it did link to my page, I think it did for me... [[User:The Dark Fiddler|Rawr I say!]] 22:54, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
::No not that. It has to ''say'' your username or at least some variation of it~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Ποκεμανιακα0β]] 22:55, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Correct. It links to your page, yes, but the on-screen text also has to include "The Dark Fiddler," or at least indicate it. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 22:56, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
:::: *Sigh* Double edit conflict. I was going to say that I misunderstood what was being told to me. Thank you for alerting me to my violation. I will change it immediatley... but do I need to manually link it, or will it automatically link to my page? [[User:The Dark Fiddler|Rawr I say!]] 22:58, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::Manually link...eh?~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Ποκεμανιακα0β]] 22:59, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::Never mind, I got it... this signature is okay though, right? [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler - Smarter than the average bear!]] 23:00, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::That's fine. And since I bothered to write this all out before the edit conflict, I'll post it too: It depends on how fancy you want it... For example, I've edited my signature to have a manual link, and it now reads: [[User:Martonimos|Da Martonimizer]]. But if you wanted to have multiple links or pretty colors, like [[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]], you'd wind up having to manually link and code a bunch. --[[User:Martonimos|Da Martonimizer]] 23:03, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Okay then, I'll get a bit better with my coding before I link "Smarter than the average bear" to my talk page... Thanks again, don't want to break the rules! [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler - Smarter than the average bear!]] 23:05, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Here, try this: {{u|The Dark Fiddler}} - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Smarter than the average bear!]] (click 'edit' to see how the coding was done). ←{'''[[User:Berrymaster|Berrymaster]]|[[User_talk:Berrymaster|Talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Berrymaster|Contrib]]'''}→ 23:12, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

:Well, here goes... :[[User:The Dark Fiddler|{{u|The Dark Fiddler}} - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Smarter than the average bear!]]]] 23:13, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
::It doesn't seem to have worked... did I put it in wrong? [[User:The Dark Fiddler|{{u|The Dark Fiddler}} - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Smarter than the average bear!]]]] 23:14, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
:::There should be a '''CHECK''' in the box below the coding box~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Ποκεμανιακα0β]] 23:15, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
::::Facepalm.... well, here goes AGAIN: [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Smarter than the average bear!]] 23:16, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
::::Thank you! [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Smarter than the average bear!]] 23:16, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

== Nice ==

:On TTEchidna's page, you said a$$ instead of add...I couldn't help but fix it for you. It cracked me up as I was reading it. haha.--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 23:45, 10 October 2008 (UTC) on the weekend
::Yeah, thanks for fixing that. I didn't even notice it until I saw your edit. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Smarter than the average bear!]] 23:46, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
:::And I think you meant offensive instead of official...but I'm just going to leave that one.--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 23:47, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
::::Where, PikaNinja7's page? No, I meant official. I'm not official, after all. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Smarter than the average bear!]] 23:49, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::What do you mean not official? Anyone can give people warnings.--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 23:50, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::Well, i didn't know if there was an official thing, like the subst:Welcome, so that's what I meant. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Smarter than the average bear!]] 23:51, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::::it's <nowiki>{{subst:UserWarning|0}}</nowiki>--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 23:53, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::::Okay then. And I am guessing there are |1 |2 |3 |4 also. Am I correct? [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Smarter than the average bear!]] 23:55, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
:Yes, but no 4. And if you want to welcome people, you could go here: [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&dir=prev&offset=20071224055122&limit=500&type=newusers]]. It has a list of all the new users. If the world "Talk" (next to there name) is red, it means they haven't been welcomed yet.--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 23:56, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
::Hold the "Ctrl" key while clicking on "Talk"...it's much easier. You could also copy and paste the template.--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 00:09, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
:::I do have subst:Welcome coppied. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Smarter than the average bear!]] 00:11, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

== Coming up... ==

I've noticed that your birthday is coming in 3 days. I'll bet you're excited.

Here's a preliminary "Happy Birthday" from me! [[User:SharKing|'''Shar'''K'''ing''']] (([[User Talk:SharKing|Talk to the King!]])) 23:09, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
:You're kinda a month late... [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Smarter than the average bear!]] 23:11, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
::Sorry. My eyes were strained at the time, and I thought it said "November." ''There'''s an LOL moment. [[User:SharKing|'''Shar'''K'''ing''']] (([[User Talk:SharKing|Talk to the King!]])) 01:54, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
:::No prob. I don't blame you (not that there's any blame to be given) [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Smarter than the average bear!]] 01:57, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

== Move them to the right? ==

then just put
<nowiki><div class="userbox">
{{User Obama}}
{{User Baby Kangaskhan}}
{{User Windows|Vista}}
{{User EST}}
{{User en-N}}
{{User Obama}}
{{User Firefox}}
{{User DSL}}
{{User Obama}}
{{User Read Unown}}
{{User Pastafarian}}
{{User Obama}}
{{User Male}}
{{User Birthday|October 11|493}}
{{User Country|018|the United States}}
{{User Obama}}
{{User Smart Condition|282}}
{{User Obama}}
{{User Manaphy}}
{{User Phione}}
{{user GSDS}}
{{user Obama}}
{{User Liberal}}
{{User Gay Rights}}
{{User Obama}}
{{User Favorite Shipping|AshMay&Ribbon.jpg|AdvanceShipping}}
{{User Patrol}}
{{User Obama}}
{{User Favorite|137|Porygon}}
{{User Favorite|233|Porygon 2}}
{{User Favorite|474|Porygon-Z}}
{{User Obama}}
</div></nowiki>
...But I don't know how to make them collapsible. Hope I helped!--The [[Blastoise (Pokémon)|Kk]][[Gary's Blastoise|ll]][[Blastoise (TCG)|nn]][[User:Kkllnn|ator]] [[User Talk:Kkllnn| blastoise]] 23:02, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
:Well, that works good enough for now. Thank you! [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Smarter than the average bear!]] 23:05, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
::Hey, can I have [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User:The_Dark_Fiddler&diff=next&oldid=532811 half a cookie at least]? ;)--The [[Delibird (Pokémon)|Kk]][[Stantler (Pokémon)|ll]][[Santa Claus|nn]][[User:Kkllnn|ator]] [[User Talk:Kkllnn| サンタクロース]] 00:07, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
:::{{tt|No, but u can has a coopon 4 1 cookeez!|2 manee lolcats}}[[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 00:14, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
::::Yayz! Eye thankz youse!--The [[Delibird (Pokémon)|Kk]][[Stantler (Pokémon)|ll]][[Santa Claus|nn]][[User:Kkllnn|ator]] [[User Talk:Kkllnn| サンタクロース]] 00:15, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

== Just a thing... ==

On [[User talk:Dolphin2|Dolphin2's talk page]], you gave him the |0 userspace warning, but he already recieved that one before, so you should've given him the |1 warning. [[Santa Claus|♥]][[User:Chocolate|Chocolate]] ([[wp:Christmas|Merry Christmas!]]) 22:11 12/10/2008
:Its been a month, I think (s)he's learned. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Smarter than the average bear!]] 22:12, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

::But s/he already recieved that one. We don't use the same level warning twice. [[Santa Claus|♥]][[User:Chocolate|Chocolate]] ([[wp:Christmas|Merry Christmas!]]) 22:13 12/10/2008

:::Really? Is that explicitly stated anywhere? [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Smarter than the average bear!]] 22:15, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

::::"''Disregard* for the first warning - Second warning * Disregard constitutes blatant disregard for the previous warning, i.e. continuing to edit the userspace after being warned.''" - From the {{Bp|userspace policy}}. [[Santa Claus|♥]][[User:Chocolate|Chocolate]] ([[wp:Christmas|Merry Christmas!]]) 22:17 12/10/2008

:::::I will give you that, but, TTEchidna himself told me once that he wouldn't set down the final warning on a certain user when I told him about it, because his last warning was a month ago. Then again, that WAS the final warning, the "You are now banned" or w/e one. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Smarter than the average bear!]] 22:20, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

::::::Oh. I see. [[Santa Claus|♥]][[User:Chocolate|Chocolate]] ([[wp:Christmas|Merry Christmas!]]) 22:22 12/10/2008

== [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:KristianA&curid=59971&diff=587309&oldid=548696 ...] ==

Um, what was that? (s)he only made one userspace edit today...--The [[Delibird (Pokémon)|Kk]][[Stantler (Pokémon)|ll]][[Santa Claus|nn]][[User:Kkllnn|ator]] [[User Talk:Kkllnn| サンタクロース]] 22:22, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
:Errr... that would be me mistaking November edits for December edits... hehe, my bad.... [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Smarter than the average bear!]] 22:25, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

== ... ==

What do you mean:
:My user page, It's normal to me...
:My talk page, I keep on trying to archive it, but somehow, when I click on "my talk", then it just takes me to archive 1.
Juan Sanfiel ( Merry Christmas ) 12-14-08 11:19 pm UTC
::Your userpage, which is weird, because DCM says that he's trying to fix it, which implies he sees it too. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Smarter than the average bear!]] 01:21, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
:::Yeah, 9000000 pixels will do that to a user page[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]

== Template ==

Yay! can I use your template "This user kills useless trivia"? how creative :D '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 03:16, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
:Go ahead, I don't mind. Just remember the userspace limit! Not that you would forget though, right? [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 12:56, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
::Okay. Well, I rarely edit my userspace, so it doesn't matter. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 15:29, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
:::Ok then. Puede usar{{tt|lo|la?}} [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 15:32, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
::::Es cosa de que mires mi página y vas a saber xD. Adding a link to the MOS makes it eve nicer look:
{| style="border: 1px solid #{{gold color}};" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"
! style="background: #F9CB58;" | [[Image:GoldenMudkip.png|50px]]
| style="background: #E9BB48; color: #986F0A;" | This user kills [[MOS#Style of writing; editing, bias, and opinion|useless trivia.]]
|} '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 15:51, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::Something something... look at your page and going to know... right? And yes, the MOS link does make it better. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 15:56, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

== What? ==

Why did you switch the welcome out?[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
:That was an accident caused by force of habit. I saw the red link, opened it up, and put the welcome down. Guess you got there faster and I didn't notice, sorry. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 19:39, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
::No problem. I was just confused.[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]

== Re:Check it ==

He had not signed his comment when he first posted it, so I added the unsigned template with the time he posted it. That brings me to the question: Can the unsigned template be edited so that it automatically includes the time of the original comment? Also, could this be programmed for a bot to do (which may in fact make the users lazy to sign at all, if it would be done for them anyway)? --[[User:Bulbapedian|Bulbapedian]] - [[User talk:Bulbapedian|Talk]] 00:06, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

Thanks for fixing the spelling mistake. However, I spelled it wrong on another part of that page too. If you don't mind using up another edit, could you fix the other instance of the incorrect spelling, too? [[Santa Claus|♥]][[User:Chocolate|Chocolate]] ([[wp:Christmas|Merry Christmas!]]) 01:11 12/24/2008
:{{tt|Done|again}}.[[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 01:15, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

::{{Tt|Thanks|again}}! [[Santa Claus|♥]][[User:Chocolate|Chocolate]] ([[wp:Christmas|Merry Christmas!]]) 01:17 12/24/2008

== Moves ==

Hi. I've made the move templates, and I've noticed what you've been doing. I feel somewhat inclined to point out, however, that the correct term is ''damage'''-'''dealing'' (note the {{tt|hyphen|dash thingy}}). This makes into one word, as opposed to two separate words. Thank you, and {{tt|happy holidays|if you do that kind of stuff}}! — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 06:27, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
:I offer my appoligies and I will remedy my edits. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 11:57, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

== Look... ==

The people reading the trivia must know the reason why it's stripe disappears. Because just looking at that text kinda makes it look like the writer doesn't really know anything. {{unsigned|FHJoker}}
:Wrong. If the reader doesn't understand that the sprite has an empty frame, he must be very simple. The article should contain ''useful'', and when it's the trivia section, ''possibly interesting facts about the Pokémon itself''. The fact you're trying to add there is indeed correct, but it's about the game mechanics and not related to Kecleon at all. Also, remember to sign your comments on talk pages with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 16:54, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

== [[??????????]]??????? ==

Why do you have to ruin me on my bulbapedia 1 year aniversary. I didm't mean to break spare me pleasee!!!!
I'M UPSET RIGHT NOW DON'T TALK TO ME !!!!!! {{unsigned|DAWN FAN}}
:I wasn't trying to ruin you, I was just pointing it out. Rules are rules after all. AND, if you didn't want to talk, why did you post on my talkpage? [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 19:13, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
::You spelt most of those words wrong, and you forgot to sign. You're a disgrace to all us fans of {{an|Dawn}}! j/k. Anyways, last I checked, no one online at the time has the power to mess with user rights, so you're clear...this time.--[[Blastoise (Pokémon)|K]][[User:Kkllnn|K]] [[user talk:Kkllnn|Happy new year!]] 19:15, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
:::BTW, how come it's your anniversary if it says in the [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&user=DAWN_FAN log] that you registered in February? I ruined the whole anniversary by revealing it as a fake anniversary... Mwahaha. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 19:28, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
What's wrong with you,The Dark Fiddler,I was trying my best ,Why did Upstage me.Also Yesterday was the Bulbanews one.[[User:DAWN FAN|Dawn's No.1 Fan,]] 15:37, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
:When did he upstage you?--[[Blastoise (Pokémon)|K]][[User:Kkllnn|K]] [[user talk:Kkllnn|Happy new year!]] 15:37, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
::{{tt|Everyones jealous of the pied piper|THE PHAAAAAAAAAAAAAANTOM OF THE OPERA WAS THERE}}. Upstage pffff. Thats what happens with gravity (the stages are raked, at an angle)[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]

== Cinnabar Lab ==

Those links are to describe the manga lab. It didn't already exist. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 16:18, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
:Wait, what? If it didn't already exist, then why did you delete it rather than revert my redirecting? [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 16:21, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
::Because the person mis-wrote the article about the game lab. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 19:39, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

== Userspace ==

The limit for userspace edits is three, and the user I messaged made four. Why did you and Rex deny the message? --[[User:Bulbapedian|Bulbapedian]] - [[User talk:Bulbapedian|Talk]] 00:42, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
:It's been changed to 4 edits a day. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 00:43, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
:Ditto. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 00:44, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
::Oh, I wasn't aware it had changed. In the past, I've seen [[User:DAWN FAN|someone]] get the message directly after their fourth edit. --[[User:Bulbapedian|Bulbapedian]] - [[User talk:Bulbapedian|Talk]] 00:46, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Yeah, just changed less than an hour ago. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 00:47, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

== The free spot ==

For what game? [[User:SharKing|'''シャーキング''']] [[User talk:SharKing|私に相談してください。]] [[Special:Contributions/SharKing|自分の編集を参照してください。]] 19:48, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
:(English) Silver version. Unoriginal, but, meh. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 19:49, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
::I think I'll be Totodile if you haven't decided a starter yet. If you have, I'll be Gyarados. [[User:SharKing|'''シャーキング''']] [[User talk:SharKing|私に相談してください。]] [[Special:Contributions/SharKing|自分の編集を参照してください。]] 19:52, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Totodile it is then! (Current status = 3 spots left) [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 19:54, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
:::: * Raises hand* Heracross, if you please, or a pokemon of your choosing[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]] 19:58, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

==Thanks!==
Thanks for the welcome!
It's strange, I was just viewing your userpage last night, too!--[[User:Mence Master|Mence Master]] 00:56, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

User:Mence Master

2009-01-05T00:55:24Z

Mence Master: New page: =~Welcome to my Page!~= Hey, I'm new to Bulbapedia (Well, at least joining. I have gone here for the past year or so to collect some information, and such) =~Biography~= I'll make one wh...

=~Welcome to my Page!~=
Hey, I'm new to Bulbapedia (Well, at least joining. I have gone here for the past year or so to collect some information, and such)

=~Biography~=
I'll make one when I'm sure nobody out there cares THAT badly.

=~Pokemon Career~=
I used to watch Pokemon all the time, when it was just beginning to be the GBA Era, back in 2004. I started disliking it the next year. I got back into it in 2007, with Pokemon Ruby. So then, I collected all of the main series games, from FireRed to Pearl. I am still into it very much, and will be getting the G/S/C Remakes, along with Platinum.

=~Shiny Hunting Business~=
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Uxie was my first Soft Reset shiny, and I am very proud of it. It took over 12,000 resets to get, with 12,000 on one profile, and a mere twelve on another. The IVs are fairly bad, but I am still one to boast it.

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Darkrai came the day after Uxie, December 27, 2008. I had used the Tweaking Glitch to reach it, and started soft resetting. About one hour later, after around 100 resets, it was shiny. Like Uxie, it has terrible IVs, but it is still a glory shiny.

I have many other shinies, but all were gotten using the Pokeradar, although I found a shiny Vibrava at the minor chain of 2, but that was not the full 1/8192 chance.