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Relic Song (move)

2012-03-02T17:33:18Z

Mattrules161: removed reference to not revealed meloetta

{{MoveInfobox|
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name=Relic Song |
jname=いにしえのうた |
jtrans=Ancient Song |
jtranslit=Inishie no Uta|
gameimage=Relic Song.png |
type=Normal |
damagecategory=Special |
basepp=10 |
maxpp=16 |
power=75 |
accuracy=100 |
gen=V |
pokefordex=Relic%20Song |
touches=no |
protect=yes |
magiccoat=no |
snatch=no |
brightpowder=yes |
kingsrock=no |
flag7=no |
flag8=no |
sound=yes |
mtbw=yes|
na=no|
target=adjacentfoes|
footnotes= |
}}
'''Relic Song''' (Japanese: '''いにしえのうた''' ''Ancient Song'') is a damage-dealing {{type2|Normal}} [[move]] introduced in [[Generation V]]. It is only learned by event {{p|Meloetta}} through a tutor in [[Castelia City]], and cannot be selected by {{m|Metronome}}. Since Meloetta has not yet been distributed, this move is currently unavailable.

==Effect==
Relic Song deals damage and has a 10% chance of putting the target to {{status|Sleep|sleep}}. Relic Song hits all opponents in double battles and hits all adjacent opponents in triple battles.

When used by {{p|Meloetta}} in battle, it will also cause it to change between its [[Form differences#Meloetta|Aria and Pirouette]] Formes.

==Description==
{{movedesc|normal}}
{{movedescentry|BW|The user sings an ancient song and attacks by appealing to the hearts of those listening. It may also induce sleep.}}
|}
|}{{left clear}}

==Learnset==
===By [[move tutor]]===
In {{game|Black and White|s}}, a man in {{DL|Castelia City|Café Sonata}} will make an event Meloetta remember the move, which, story-wise, it had forgotten.

{{Moveheader/tutor|Normal|1}}
{{Moveheader/tutor/5}}
{{Moveentry/tutor|648|Meloetta|2|Normal|Psychic|X|X|X|X|X|X|X|yes|'''}}
{{Movefooter/tutor|Normal|1}}

==Trivia==
* Relic Song is the only move that deals damage and can put the target to {{status|sleep}}, regardless of battle location.
** {{m|Secret Power}} can also do damage and put the opponent to sleep, but only when used in [[Tall grass#Long grass|very long grass]]{{sup|RSE}}, [[tall grass]]{{sup|DPPt}}{{sup|HGSS}}{{sup|BW}}, or [[puddle]]s{{sup|BW}}.

==In other languages==
{{Langtable|color={{normal color}}|bordercolor={{normal color light}}
|fr=ChantAntique
|de=Urgesang
|it=Cantoantico
|es=Cantoarcaico}}

{{Signal Beam|Normal}}

{{Project Moves and Abilities notice}}

[[de:Urgesang]]
[[fr:Chant Antique]]
[[it:Cantoantico (mossa)]]
[[ja:いにしえのうた]]
[[pl:Relic Song]]

Hall of Fame

2012-02-17T16:42:18Z

Mattrules161: Added a bit more on Generation V

{{incomplete|needs=needs anime section}}
:''For the books, see [[Pokémon: Sinnoh Hall of Fame]] and {{book|Pokémon Hall of Fame}}.''
----
[[File:Halloffame.png‎|thumb|right|220px|Entering the Hall of Fame in Pokémon Platinum]]
The '''Hall of Fame''' is a record kept by the [[Pokémon League]] of all the [[Pokémon Trainer]]s who have ever beaten the [[Elite Four]] and the [[Pokémon Champion]]. Various data regarding the victorious Trainer is recorded. The Hall of Fame is in a room accessible from the {{pkmn|Champion}}'s room, and may be accessed by people who have entered it by way of [[PC]].

==Data recorded==
In each game, data is recorded into the PC, which is also shown during the game's ending scene. This is a list of which data is visible on the Hall of Fame PC option.

===Generation I===
Hall of Fame Records are stored per individual Pokémon. (Example: A single member team is given a single record. A 6-member team is given 6 records.) Each uniquely indexed record holds the Pokémon's species, level and nickname. The Pokémon's type is also displayed, however this value is generated from the record's species index itself.

All generation I games store the player's 50 most previous feats in an ascending order (1, 2, 3, etc). Any further feats would delete records in a {{wp|FIFO|First In, First Out}} organization method. For example, if a player were to defeat the Elite Four 51 times, feats 2 through 51 would be displayed in that order, with 1 having been overwritten. This storage allows for a maximum of 300 Pokémon records to be displayed in the Hall of Fame at any given time.

In addition, the Player's name, playing time, money, sprite, and number of Pokémon obtained are displayed during the ending scene, along with each team member's unique record beforehand. Professor Oak also evaluates the player's Pokédex before the credits roll.

===Generation II===
Hall of Fame Records are again stored per individual Pokémon. Each uniquely indexed record now holds the Pokémon's species, level, IV values, [[Trainer ID number]] and nickname. Although the IV values are not visible, they are used to display the Pokémon's gender and alternate color, and Unown form, if any of the three apply to the given specimen. The Pokémon's index number is also displayed, however this value is generated from the record's species index itself.

All generation II games store the player's 30 most previous feats in a descending order (3, 2, 1, etc). Any further feats would again delete records in a First In, First Out method. For example, if a player were to defeat the Elite Four 31 times, feats 31 through 2 would be displayed in that order, with 1 having been overwritten. This storage allows for a maximum of 180 Pokémon records to be displayed in the Hall of Fame at any given time.

In addition, the Player's name, ID number, playing time, sprite, and number of Pokémon obtained are displayed during the ending scene, along with each team member's unique record beforehand. Professor Oak also evaluates the player's Pokédex before the credits roll.

===Generation III===
Hall of Fame Records are now stored per each team, so as to save time traversing through records. (Example: A single member team is given a single record. A 6-member is team is also given a single record.) Each indexed record holds an entire team's data, with each unique team member entry consisting of its species, level, nickname, personality value, and [[Trainer ID number]]. Personality values works exactly like IV values did in Generation II, in that they are not visible, yet are used to display the Pokémon's gender and alternate color, and Unown/Spinda form, if any of the three apply to the given specimen. The Pokémon's index number is once again displayed, however this value is generated from the record's species index itself.

All generation III games store the player's 50 most previous feats in a descending order. Any further feats would delete records in a First In, First Out method. For example, if a player were to defeat the Elite Four 51 times, feats 51 through 2 would be displayed in that order, with 1 having been overwritten. This storage allows for a maximum of 50 team records (with a maximum of 300 Pokémon total) to be displayed in the Hall of Fame at any given time.

In addition, the Player's name, ID number, playing time and sprite are displayed during the ending scene, along with each team member's unique record beforehand. Unlike previous generations however, each game's regional Professor will not evaluate your Pokédex. Instead, the message "League Champion! Congratulations!" is displayed before the credits roll.

===Generation IV===
Hall of Fame Records are again stored per each team, so as to save time traversing through records. Each indexed record holds the date the feat took place, as well as an entire team's data, with each unique team member entry consisting of its species, level, nickname, personality value, Trainer name and all four attacks. Personality values are not visible, yet are used to display the Pokémon's gender and alternate color, and alternate form, if any of the three apply to the given specimen.

All generation IV games store the player's 30 most previous feats in a descending order. Any further feats would delete records in a First In, First Out method. For example, if a player were to defeat the Elite Four 31 times, feats 31 through 2 would be displayed in that order, with 1 having been overwritten. This storage allows for a maximum of 30 team records (with a maximum of 180 Pokémon total) to be displayed in the Hall of Fame at any given time.

In addition, the Player's name, ID number, playing time and sprite and the message "League Champion! Congratulations!" are displayed during the ending scene, along with each team member's unique record beforehand.

Additionally, when a team member is displayed during the ending scene, it's original Catch Location will be displayed. Whether this piece of information is stored within each Team member's Hall of Fame record or not, has yet to be researched.

===Generation V===
The player's party after defeating [[Ghetsis]] will be recorded. Subsequent battles (those requiring [[Alder]] to be defeated) will also be added. A maximum of 15 Elite 4 clears can be recorded at any time, as well as the First Game Clear. The data is again deleted using a FIFO (First-in first-out) queuing order.


==Rewards==
* In [[Generation I]], the player is granted access to [[Cerulean Cave]], while the [[Generation III]] remakes has it as one of the requirements needed to enter the Cerulean Cave.
* In [[Generation II]] and {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}, the player is given an {{DL|List of_ key items in Generation II|S.S. Ticket}} for the [[S.S. Aqua]], effectively giving them access to the [[Kanto]] region.
* In [[Generation III]] and [[Generation IV]], a star will be placed on the player's {{ga|Trainer card}}, changing its color.
* In [[Generation III]], a {{DL|List of Ribbons in the games|Champion Ribbon}} will be given to all of the player's Pokémon that get into the Hall of Fame. In {{game2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}}, a {{DL|List of Ribbons in the games|Sinnoh Champ Ribbon}} will be given to all of the player's Pokémon that get into the Hall of Fame.
* In {{game|Diamond and Pearl|s}}, {{ga|Barry|the rival's}} team at the [[Fight Area]] will be ten levels higher once the player enters the Hall of Fame twenty times. In {{game|Platinum}}, under the same conditions, the rival's team at the [[Survival Area]] will be twenty levels higher.

==Glitches==
*In the [[Generation I]] games, if the player encounters [[Missingno.]] or other [[glitch Pokémon]], the Hall of Fame data may be corrupted by a [[glitch]] in the game. When Missingno. has been seen on the save file, the player's Hall of Fame is badly corrupted with entirely different Pokémon which will often consist of glitched characters and names. Players can often see particular Pokémon in the Hall of Fame, whether they have seen them in the Pokédex or not. This effect also works in {{game|Yellow}} when encountering glitch Pokémon through the [[Mew glitch]]. However, a way to avoid the effects of this glitch is to encounter Missingno. or any other glitch Pokémon before entering the Hall of Fame, because encountering a Missingno. only affects the teams already registered in the Hall of Fame. Players can also defeat the Elite Four multiple times after having encountered Missingno., as the game will automatically overwrite older Hall of Fame entries after the Elite Four is defeated 20 times.
*In {{game|Red and Green|s}}, by performing the [[Dokokashira door glitch]] players can quickly complete the game by forcing the next door to take them to another location, this can include the Hall of Fame room. This extremely hazardous and game-breaking glitch was removed from [[Pokémon Blue Version (Japanese)|Pokémon Blue]], causing it to not be present in the translated {{game|Red and Blue|s}}.

[[Category:Terminology]]
[[Category:Pokémon League]]

[[de:Ruhmeshalle]]
[[it:Sala d'onore]]
[[ja:殿堂入り]]
[[pl:Hala sławy]]

==Trivia==
* Generation I and III games each store a maximum of 50 Hall of Fame team records. Generation II and IV games however, each store a maximum of 30 Hall of Fame team records.

Talk:Keldeo (Pokémon)

2012-02-13T12:50:14Z

Mattrules161: /* Current Events */ new section

How come we are not menacing that this is also a Unicorn? [[User:Random Chaos|Random Chaos]] 02:12, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

== Keldeo can't be based on a toy? ==

{{p|Banette}} was a plushie/stuffed doll.

{{p|Baltoy}} was based on a top.

So how is it so surprising a Pokemon can be based on a toy line? Pokemon can be based on ANYTHING, there are NO limitations whatsoever. So why not this? - [[User:050294|050294]] 09:22, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
:While those WERE based on toys, they weren't based on specific toy franchises like this. It is based on a unicorn, which My Little Pony is also based on. Sure, Wargle was based by American culture, but on typical American culture. I'm not ruling out that Japanese Pokémon cannot have any American influence, but My Little Pony isn't something which is widely known enough for a foreigner to likely know. I did quickly research it, and while My Little Pony has reached Europe and China, there is no mention of Japan. Just because something looks like something else does not mean that it was based on it. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 10:19, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
::I guess I can see where you're coming from somewhat. However, just because it isn't widely known by foreigners does not mean it can't be made into a Pokemon. Origins are also used to point out resemblances as well. For example, The plant on Venusaur's back vaguely resembles the giant flower Rafflesia.", so saying that Keldeo resembles a My Little Pony doll really doesn't seem out of place. - [[User:050294|050294]] 10:40, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
:::We generally prefer not to compare Pokémon's origins to other works of fiction. Venusaur's flower is likely to have been inspired by a Rafflesia. This Pokémon is highly unlikely to be inspired by My Little Pony. It is a musketeer and a unicorn. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 10:54, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
::::Wait. "We generally prefer not to compare Pokémon's origins to other works of fiction." ...An extremely large amount of Pokemon were based on fiction. In fact, "The Three Musketeers", IS a work of fiction and even the Keldeo and the Unicorn are mythological, therefore fictional, beasts! This seems very hypocritical. :\ - [[User:050294|050294]] 10:59, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::Fiction was probably the wrong word to use. The difference is The Three Musketeers is a famous story that has been told for ages in many different countries. My Little Pony is just an American novelty toy franchise whose popularity lasted less than a decade. And no, the recent toys aren't anywhere near as big as they were. Everyone knows The Three Musketeers. Not everyone knows My Little Pony. Please know the difference. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 23:28, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::Perhaps "copyrighted work" would have been a better phrase to use. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:04, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
:Well, I'll admit that Keldeo DOES indeed look of that kind of style to be based on My Little Pony, but that similarity it has is just for the physical design of it (Such as the legs and the muzzle), since every other aspect is explained by the Three Musketeers. [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] 20:28, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

:I would say that it is based more on the Kirin of Chinese and Japanese Mythology, if not it borrows a good amount of elements that would make it look like a Kirin. --[[User:IndigoDratini|IndigoDratini]] 02:55, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

=== A vote? ===
Should we maybe vote for this tidbit to be added back to the origins? - [[User:050294|050294]] 10:00, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

:Well, the toy line was based on unicorn and we already listed unicorn as one of the possible inspiration, so I don't think we should list both in the origins, one is enough. -- [[User:Dion20|Dion20]] 10:07, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
::A vote is a bit over-the-top. Just discuss. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 10:19, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

== Wkikpedia ==

I found this at Wikipedia: ''If you take it and the rest of the Musketeer trio to the forest that Keldeo used to live at, the first three members of the Musketeer trio will teach it the move "Sword of Mystery". It is only obtainable through a future event.'' Though I need confirmation.--[[User talk:444Zekrom|444]][[User:444Zekrom|Z]][[Zekrom|ekrom]] 12:40, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
:It's already on the page. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 13:00, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
:: I mean the one about the Sword of Mystery. ''If you take it and the rest of the Musketeer trio to the forest that Keldeo used to live at, the first three members of the Musketeer trio will teach it the move "Sword of Mystery".''--[[User talk:444Zekrom|444]][[User:444Zekrom|Z]][[Zekrom|ekrom]] 12:00, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
:::Again, the fact that it learns the move is already in the moveset, under tutored moves. I don't know how to integrate the specific circumstances in which Keldeo learns that move into the article; I can't find any precedence for this type of scenario anywhere else. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 16:14, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
::::I think if someone is interested in that move, it'll click on the move's name and read its page, where's already written the move can only be learned by having the three musketeer along. Also, there's a '*' at the tutoring move entry where it reads "Fateful encounter only". If someone is interested in that move, it'll search Bulbapedia for 'Fateful encounter' and reach the events page (although there's no info about Gen V events, yet). But, for those who are too lazy to do that, maybe it'd be better to show that sentence explicitly in Keldeo's page, but I don't know where to put it... Maybe it should go below the tutoring table. --[[User:Blow|Blow]] '''([[User talk:Blow|話す]])''' 22:01, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

== Name ==
Checked the JP TRADEMARK database this time. I'm thinking 'Keldeo' needs to be Keldio or Kerudio. ディ is normally "di", like ディスコ (Disco). [[User:Pokejungle|Pokejungle]] 06:11, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

: Type in http://keldeo.com/, it comes up with a placeholder and this text; ''This Internet address is being managed by Melbourne IT DBS for one of the world's top brands.'' Same if you use Victini, Kyurem, Meloetta or Genesect in its place. That seems to be strong evidence towards a intended romanization (''especially'' since "Kyurem" ''is'' in the JP TM database), seeing as how neither "Keldio" or "Kerudio" lead anywhere meaningful. [[User:Frugali|Frugali]] 23:13, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

== Possible origin ==
In greek mythology it says that horses were the desendents/creations of Posidon the god who ruled the sea. Does anyone else see a conection?--'''[[User:EpicShadow|Epic]][[User talk:EpicShadow|Shadow]]''' 18:18, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

That sounds sensible, but I think it is based on a Unicorn, personally. [[User:UnovaMusketeerTrio|UnovaMusketeerTrio]] 19:24, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Suggestion on the potential origin: The Qilin / Kirin traditionally walks on water and can cross blades of grass without crushing them, is also thought of as the Japanese or Chinese equivalent of the unicorn in Western culture. The Kelpie is a ghost horse, but Keldeo's type is water and fighting instead of ghost and fighting. It seems that since Keldeo is largely white (a trait of the kelpie) but also has qualities that do not line up with the kelpie, there may be a dual origin here? [[User:Dev chieftain|Dev chieftain]] 01:07, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

== No Ice Beam ? ==

Keldeo is the only Water-typed Pokémon to not learn Ice Beam (beside Magikarp, obviously and the Seismitoad line for some reason. It's strange, especially for a legendary. It may be a good piece of trivia to add, when we'll be allowed to do it =P [[User:Xel|Xel]] 02:08, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
:Since you just pointed out four Pokémon that are exceptions, I don't think it's notable (you could probably ignore Magikarp, but the tadpoles mess it up). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:22, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

== Special or Physical? ==
Its Pokédex entry said that it excels using leg moves while battling, but its base Sp. Attack, which happens to be 129 is almost twice as high as its base Attack stat, which is 72. Maybe this could be added to the Trivia but I dunno. [[User:PKMNChamp|PKMNChamp]] 10:01, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
:No, we generally avoid trivia like that. Also, as you can see in the site header, we are not adding any trivia at the moment. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:35, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
I think it's notable, there is Trivia exactly the same for Yanmega, where it's Pokedex entry would lead to believe it's physical attack is higher than it's Special, but it isn't... [[User:Buizel1991|Buizel1991]] 00:20, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

== Art work ==

I was just wondering why there's only a sprite picture for Keldeo and not his artwork? Can somebody confirm if this is his official art work or no? http://solarblade.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/keldeo.png?w=246&h=300 --[[User:Spongeenthusiast|Spongeenthusiast]] 01:44, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
:Chances are we won't be seeing artwork until next year. Until then, all art is nothing but fan art. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 01:45, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
::[http://fav.me/d3438uy Here you go.] [[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon (Pokémon)|★]] [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]][[Cilan (anime)|♥]] 01:47, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Thank you :) --[[User:Spongeenthusiast|Spongeenthusiast]] 01:49, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

== Current Events ==

I have made this page a current event based on the recent announcement. [[User:Mattrules161|Mattrules161]] 12:50, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Keldeo (Pokémon)

2012-02-13T12:47:16Z

Mattrules161: Coro Coro scans mean info is being announced, so current event

{{current event}}
{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Kyurem | next=Meloetta | prevnum=646 | nextnum=648 | type=Water | type2=Fighting }}
{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Keldeo |
jname=ケルディオ |
tmname=Keldeo |
image=647Keldeo.png |
caption=Artwork from {{2v2|Black|White}} |
size=100px |
art=BW |
pron=<sc>''{{{pron|kel-de-o}}}''</sc> |
species=Colt |
typen=2 |
type1=Water |
type2=Fighting |
abilityn=1 |
ability1=Justified |
ndex=647 |
udex=153 |
height-ftin=4'08" |
height-m=1.4|
weight-lbs=106.9 |
weight-kg=48.5 |
egggroupn=1 |
egggroup1=Undiscovered |
egggroup2= |
evsp=1|
evsa=1|
evsd=1|
eggcycles=80|
expyield=261 |
lv100exp=1,250,000|
gendercode=255|
color=Yellow |
evspat=3|
catchrate=3 |
body=08 |
pokefordex=keldeo |
generation=5 |
footnotes=}}
'''Keldeo''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''ケルディオ''' ''Keldeo'') is a dual-type {{2t|Water|Fighting}} [[legendary Pokémon]].

It is not known to [[Evolution|evolve]] into or from any Pokémon.

It wasn't officially revealed to the public until February of 2012.

Along with {{p|Cobalion}}, {{p|Terrakion}}, and {{p|Virizion}}, Keldeo is a member of the [[legendary musketeers]].

==Biology==
===Physiology===
Keldeo is pony-like, with a large, feathery red mane, long, dark blue, ridged eyebrow-like features, and a single cream-colored horn that is slightly curved. The back of its head, as well as its neck, has light blue-and-white-spotted coloration with spiky edges at the lower portion. Its body is cream-colored, with blue hooves. Its blue-and-white-spotted, lifted and feathery tail is comparable to an elaborate feather in a cap.

====Gender differences====
Keldeo is a genderless species.

===Special abilities===
Keldeo has the ability to cross water by ejecting water from its hooves, similar to {{p|Suicune}}.

===Behavior===
Keldeo tends to run about the entire world, running on the surface of seas and rivers.

===Habitat===
Keldeo appears at beautiful watersides.

===Diet===
{{main|Pokémon food}}

==History==
Long ago, a fire started in the [[Moor of Icirrus]] because of a war among people. In this fire, Keldeo was separated from its parents, but together, {{p|Cobalion}}, {{p|Terrakion}}, and {{p|Virizion}} took care of Keldeo. They acted as its parents, and they taught it knowledge and moves for survival. Keldeo eventually grew and even surpassed the three Pokémon. One day, Keldeo took off from the forest with no one knowing why.

When the three meet again, they teach Keldeo the move {{m|Secret Sword}}.

==In the anime==

===Major appearances===
Keldeo will make its debut in [[M15]], along with {{p|Cobalion}}, {{p|Terrakion}}, {{p|Virizion}} and {{p|Kyurem}}.
===Minor appearances===

==In the manga==

==In the TCG==


==Game data==

===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex
|type=Water
|type2=Fighting
|gen=5
|blackdex=By blasting water from its hooves, it can glide across water. It excels at using leg moves while battling.
|whitedex=It crosses the world, running over the surfaces of oceans and rivers. It appears at scenic waterfronts.
}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability|
type=Water|
type2=Fighting |
gen=5 |
gen5ex=none |
bwrarity=None|
bwarea=[[Event]]|
}}

====In side games====

===Held items===

===Stats===
====Base stats====
{{BaseStats|
type=Water|
type2=Fighting |
HP= 91 |
Attack= 72 |
Defense=90 |
SpAtk= 129 |
SpDef= 90 |
Speed= 108 }}

===Type effectiveness===
{{Type effectiveness|
type1=Water|
type2=Fighting|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting=100 |
Flying= 200 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 100 |
Rock= 50 |
Bug= 50 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 50 |

Fire= 50 |
Water= 50 |
Grass= 200 |
Electric=200 |
Psychic= 200 |
Ice= 50 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 50 |
}}

===Learnset===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{learnlist/levelh|Keldeo|Water|Fighting|5|5}}
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Aqua Jet|Water|Physical|40|100|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Leer|Normal|Status|—|100|30}}
{{learnlist/level5|7|Double Kick|Fighting|Physical|30|100|30||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|13|BubbleBeam|Water|Special|65|100|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|19|Take Down|Normal|Physical|90|85|20}}
{{learnlist/level5|25|Helping Hand|Normal|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/level5|31|Retaliate|Normal|Physical|70|100|5}}
{{learnlist/level5|37|Aqua Tail|Water|Physical|90|90|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|43|Sacred Sword|Fighting|Physical|90|100|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|49|Swords Dance|Normal|Status|—|—|30}}
{{learnlist/level5|55|Quick Guard|Fighting|Status|—|—|15}}
{{learnlist/level5|61|Work Up|Normal|Status|—|—|30}}
{{learnlist/level5|67|Hydro Pump|Water|Special|120|80|5||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|73|Close Combat|Fighting|Physical|120|100|5||'''}}
{{learnlist/levelf|Keldeo|Water|Fighting|5|5}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{learnlist/tmh|Keldeo|Water|Fighting|5|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM04|Calm Mind|Psychic|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM05|Roar|Normal|Status|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM06|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|90|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM07|Hail|Ice|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM10|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|—|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM12|Taunt|Dark|Status|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM15|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM17|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM18|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM20|Safeguard|Normal|Status|—|—|25}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM21|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM27|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM32|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM33|Reflect|Psychic|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM40|Aerial Ace|Flying|Physical|60|—|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM42|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM44|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM48|Round|Normal|Special|60|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM52|Focus Blast|Fighting|Special|120|70|5||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM54|False Swipe|Normal|Physical|40|100|40}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM55|Scald|Water|Special|80|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM67|Retaliate|Normal|Physical|70|100|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM68|Giga Impact|Normal|Physical|150|90|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM71|Stone Edge|Rock|Physical|100|80|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM75|Swords Dance|Normal|Status|—|—|30}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM77|Psych Up|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM81|X-Scissor|Bug|Physical|80|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM83|Work Up|Normal|Status|—|—|30}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM84|Poison Jab|Poison|Physical|80|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM87|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM90|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM94|Rock Smash|Fighting|Physical|40|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|HM01|Cut|Normal|Physical|50|95|30}}
{{learnlist/tm5|HM03|Surf|Water|Special|95|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|HM04|Strength|Normal|Physical|80|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tmf|Keldeo|Water|Fighting|5|5}}

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
{{learnlist/breedh|Keldeo|Water|Fighting|5|5}}
{{learnlist/breed5null}}
{{learnlist/breedf|Keldeo|Water|Fighting|5|5}}

====By [[Move tutor|tutoring]]====
=====Special moves=====
{{learnlist/tutorh|Keldeo|water|fighting|5|5}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Secret Sword|Fighting|Special|85|100|10|{{tt|*|Fateful encounter only}}|'''|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutorf|Keldeo|water|fighting|5|5}}

===={{Trading Card Game}}-only moves====

===Side game data===

===Evolution===
{{evobox
|family=None
|sprite1=647
|name1=Keldeo
|type1-1=Water
|type2-1=Fighting
}}

===Sprites===
{{Sprite|
type=water|
type2=fighting|
gen=5|
gender=none|
name=Keldeo|
ndex=647|
}}

==Trivia==
* As the fourth member of the [[legendary musketeers]], it shares several traits with them, but is somewhat different in a number of ways:
** Unlike the others, Keldeo is unable to learn {{m|Quick Attack}}. Instead, it is capable of learning {{m|Aqua Jet}}, a [[move variations|variation]] of Quick Attack.
** The moves that Keldeo learns by level have higher base powers than the moves learned by the other legendary musketeers.
** Keldeo learns {{m|Sacred Sword}} one level later than the other three.
** Keldeo is not listed near the other three in [[National Pokédex]] order.
** It distributes {{EV}}s for three different stats ({{stat|Special Attack}}, {{stat|Special Defense}}, and {{stat|Speed}}) as opposed to a single stat.
** Its legs seem to be stylized after animal legs and hooves, unlike the others, which seem to have boots.
* Keldeo has the highest {{stat|Special Attack}} of all {{type|Fighting}} Pokémon.
* Keldeo, along with {{p|Meloetta}}, are the only {{pkmn2|event}}-exclusive [[legendary Pokémon]] to learn their [[signature move]]s from an external source.
* Keldeo has the lowest base stat total of all event-exclusive legendary Pokémon, excluding {{p|Phione}}, whose legendary status is disputed.
* Its trait of running across water mirrors {{p|Suicune}}, another quadrupedal {{type|Water}} legendary Pokémon.

===Origin===
Keldeo is most likely based on a combination of the legend of the {{wp|kelpie}}, a supernatural water horse that sometimes appeared as a lost pony, and a {{wp|unicorn}}. Keldeo may also be inspired by the character of {{wp|d'Artagnan}} from the novel ''{{wp|The Three Musketeers}}''. Like d'Artagnan, it is the latest and youngest addition to the group. Keldeo's tail also resembles d'Artagnan's trademark feathered cap.

====Name origin====
Keldeo's name is probably derived from kelda, which means 'spring' in {{wp|Old Norse}}, or {{wp|kelpie}}, a water horse from Celtic folklore and the word {{wp|rodeo}}, a sport involving skills with horses, cows and other livestock.

==In other languages==
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|-
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{| class="roundy" style="background: #{{Water color light}};"
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! Language
! Name
! Name Origin

|- style="background:#FFF;"
| [[List of French Pokémon names|French]]
| Keldeo
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|- style="background:#FFF;"
| [[List of Korean Pokémon names|Korean]]
| 케르디오 ''Kereudio''
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|}
|-
|}
 

==Notes==
<references />

==External links==
{{event Pokémon}}
{{-}}
{{Legendary Pokémon}}
{{PokémonPrevNextFoot | prev=Kyurem | next=Meloetta | prevnum=646 | nextnum=648 | type=Water | type2=Fighting }}
{{-}}
{{Project Pokédex notice}}

[[Category:Legendary Pokémon]]
[[Category:Unova Legendary Pokémon]]
[[Category:Promotion-only Pokémon]]

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Talk:Chilan Berry

2011-04-27T20:19:10Z

Mattrules161: /* "(Generation IV)" after its name */

=="(Generation IV)" after its name==

Is there any reason why this article has "(Generation IV)" specifically after its name? The Chilan Berry does not exist in any other Pokémon Generation and when I look at other pages such as "[[Colbur Berry]]" they do not have "(Generation IV)" after its name either. --[[User:Chickasaurus|Chickasaurus]] 22:44, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
:A different berry from Gen lll has the same name. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 22:46, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

:Page title needs updating due to the arrival of Pokémon Black and Pokémon White. [[theseriddlesthree]] 09:34, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
::I think this page should be moved simply to [[Chilan Berry]]. It redirects here anyway and the page points out that the e-Reader Berry exists. Due to the fact that it is also in Generation V, the name is currently incorrect. The e-Reader Berry is much less likely to be searched for than the current Berry. Not only was the old Berry in an old Generation only, but it was event-only. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:20, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
:::Definitely needs moving. Currently relevant. [[User:Mattrules161|Mattrules161]] 20:19, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Main Page/Archive 11

2011-04-26T12:17:24Z

Mattrules161: /* Shorthand route naming system */

This is the {{bp|talk page}} for the Bulbapedia's front page. If you have a general comment about the wiki, please consider placing it in [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/forumdisplay.php?f=195 our forum].'''

== Previous discussions ==

* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 1|Archive 1]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 2|Archive 2]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 3|Archive 3]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 4|Archive 4]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 5|Archive 5]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 6|Archive 6]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 7|Archive 7]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 8|Archive 8]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 9|Archive 9]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 10|Archive 10]]

== Pokémon cries? ==
Should we add Pokémon cries to the Pokémon articles?--[[User:Starman125|Starman125]] 20:18, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
:It's been tried before, but it caused too many problems. It would still probably cause too much problems now.--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 20:23, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
:::[[Talk:Main Page/Archive 10#Pokémon Cries|This has been discussed to death already.]] —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 20:24, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
::::We're going to try to get them put in as soon as possible. They've been sitting in a directory on the server for... jeez, at least a year. Last time we tried to put them in, the server exploded. Archaic's been wary of doing it since then. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:35, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::Just out of curiosity, what file format was used for the cries? That may have been the problem.--[[User:Starman125|Starman125]] 20:54, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
::::::Over at de:, we have mp3 with the following syntax: <nowiki>{{#mp3:http://www.greenchu.de/nakigoe/025.mp3}}</nowiki>. I cannot figure out where that parser functions comes from, though.--[[User:Afrael|Afrael]] [[User talk:Afrael|talk]] 00:59, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::::I think having the files like [http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/#music Floatzel.net] have their music files could work well. We might even eventually be able to put route/town/cave music on the pages!--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 04:09, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Oh would I ''love'' to do that. Too bad Nintendo would '''destroy''' us for doing so. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:01, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

Why has no one said anything about the roars of Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, and Zekrom in the anime? Cause it should at least in the trivia say that: Dialga uses King Ghidorah's roar. Palkia uses Boga's roar and some of Godzilla's and King Ghidorah's roars. Giratina uses Mothra's roar. And Zekrom uses Megaguirus's roar. I know that its not that important but it is fact so cant it be put in their trivia section on thier pages? Am i the only one that thinks that it should?

== Move Trivia ==

Should there be a trivia section for moves? For instance, only one Pokémon can learn [[Steel Wing]] by leveling up.--[[User:Chalkwriter|Chalkwriter]] 16:26, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
:There are for some moves, but not all of them have any notable trivia to add, so there is no sub heading. If you think of '''notable''' trivia, then add the sub-heading and put it in. Thanks, [[User:Samjohn95|Sam]][[User talk:Samjohn95|john]][[Special:contributions/Samjohn95|95]] 21:38, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

== Glitch Pokémon ==

Hi there. I remember when I was around nine, I used to play Pokémon Gold & Crystal, and I remember there was this cloning trick that could clone pokémon and the items that they held. Anyways, I began to notice if I did the right trick at a certain time, (or whatever it was, it has been a while) I managed to get a special type of Pokémon, the trainer. The trainer of course, had no moves and therefore could only struggle, but you could use TMs and everything. I remember having fun with that, but I can't find any info on this.- ''unsigned comment from {{u|Bublador}} ([[User talk:Bublador|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Bublador|contribs]]) ''

Try this page, all of the glitches are on [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Glitches#All_Generations]] and please sign your comment when you use these talk pages. thank you --[[User:Daniel1993|Daniel1993]] 19:55, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

== Pronunciation ==

I'm just thinking if on every Pokémon's page that we have their Pronunciation somewhere? like this:

Say: Sin-da-qwil

What do you think?--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 07:03, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:It's a good idea, but I believe we've had problems with adding pronunciations in the past because of people not agreeing on the "correct" pronunciation (also, sometimes there are conflicting pronunciations from different official sources) --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 07:06, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
::Oh oh then. I just though because some Pokémon I can't pronounce their names--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 07:21, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:::If you have a look at the source of, say, Bulbasaur's page, you'll see this:
<pre>{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Bulbasaur |
pron=<sc>''bul''-buh-sore</sc> <ref>Barbo, Maria. ''The Official Pokémon Handbook''.
Scholastic Publishing, 1999. ISBN 0-439-10397-5</ref> |
jname=フシギダネ |
tmname=Fushigidane |
</pre>

the "pron=" parameter is not coded into the infobox, so it does appear. But it's there on every Pokemon's page. [[User:Takharii|'''たか''']][[User talk:Takharii|'''はり''']][[Special:Contributions/Takharii|'''い''']] 07:39, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
::::Yes, it's coded in but because of the disagreements on pronunciation and no clear official source for many of them, it was decided to hide them all. If Nintendo or anyone ever releases an official pronunciation guide then we'll be able to put them back up. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:43, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::Is whatever the pronunciation is in the English dub of the anime (and similarly the pronunciation in the Japanese dub for those not yet released over here) not enough to justify it? With the exception of the odd time where they've actually changed the pronunciation during it e.g. Regice... '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 13:46, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

== Artwork?! ==

I hate to be the silly one who starts the "What's going on?!!" discussion, but seriously, why have all the pictures of the Generation I Pokémon been changed to the old Red and Green artwork? Is it for an aniversary or something? [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 10:59, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:Yes. Anniversary of RB was yesterday, so Gen I Pokémon got Gen I art. But due to the server cache it took some a while to switch over, and I believe they should all be starting to switch back now, but again, that'll be whenever the server cache gets updated. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 11:24, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
::Actually, maybe it could be put on a switch, like with Gastrodon's forms, so it could switch between old and new artwork periodically. How's that sound? - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 13:49, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:::That's exactly what it did. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:34, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
::::Oh, so it's still in effect? As in, like, permanently? Because that was what I was suggesting. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 22:36, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::Yes, next year and on certain other days the site will have easter egg effects. Yaaaay for surprises. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:32, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
::::::I won't panic when the Gym Leader pictures are replaced by fan art then... [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 11:53, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Is it the same currently with the Generation II Pokémon and their G/S artwork? [[User:Darthrai|Darthrai]] 19:16, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Yes. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 19:30, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

== just a though... ==

i realise this is probably in the wrong place, but, as unlocking the generation IV nationaldex and requesting a trade on the GTS require only seeing a particular species of pokémon, would it make sense to include a section explaining where to see them. (and i am aware that the GTS has only around a week left). I know that people (granted they are few) have had problems viewing unown and riolu in DP for example.--[[User:Mr-connor|Mr-connor]] 13:03, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

:There is a section explaining where to see, and catch, Pokémon. It's right below the Pokédex Entries section.--[[user:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] I lie in wait...... 13:17, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

'''TYPHLOSION LV:50
KINDRA LV:50
ALAKAZAM LV:50
LUGIA LV:45
TYRANITAR LV:55
DRAGONITE LV:57'''

this is my current team for pokemon soulsilver...i think it has room for improvement.
[[User:The a-team|The a-team]] 21:14, 5 September 2010 (UTC)brandon strayhorn[[User:The a-team|The a-team]] 21:14, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
:This isn't the place to put this. Post it on the forums.--[[User:Cold|Cold]] ([[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 21:20, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

== Bulbagarden Archives ==

I have a problem that I keep sending the confirmation e-mail like every week but it doesn't show up. I'm saying it here because I haven't confirmed my e-mail on Archives. Someone please help me!!!!!!--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 10:26, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
:Have you checked it isn't getting caught by the spam filter on your email? Maybe check that the email address is right too? <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 10:42, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
::Thanks Wardnae, I accidentally wrote the wrong email.--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 23:42, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
== Sizes on Pokémon pages.. ==

Something that's been bugging me for a while. I've been manually going around and resizing the main art boxes at the top of each Pokémon page so they all match each other and look uniform. However, many times box sizes will still be off by a few pixels. Would there be anyway to code something that keeps them all the same size? [http://i54.tinypic.com/28rcc53.png] is an example of what Ii'm talking about. Basically, the box that surrounds the art.~★ '''[[User:Cubic Question|''cubic'']][[User talk:Cubic Question|''QUESTION'']]''' 13:48, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
:Even if you make the width a certain size, the length will be different according to the size of the art. To get it uniform, you would have to make every file have some whitespace so it would be the same size. That won't happen though. The boxes don't really need to be uniform in size. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 20:23, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

== Litsen... ==

First of all, I have a idea of a section in the pokemon's main page. Footprint. It'll be good. also, the Pronunciation topic above^^. We can take Right pronunciation from [http://pokemon.wikia.com/ Pokemon Wiki]. I know its cheating, but, Ill help us. --[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 11:41, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:The footprint is already in each Pokémon's infobox. And, we already discussed that the pronunciation caused conflict, and the Pokémon Wiki is far from a reliable source. So we probably won't be adding the pronunciation to each's Pokémon's page. [[User:Takharii|'''たか''']][[User talk:Takharii|'''はり''']][[Special:Contributions/Takharii|'''い''']] 11:08, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
::By the way I think you were trying to say Listen not Litsen?--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 11:09, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:::Well, Pronunciation is what admins can do when the wiki lets locked. also, wouldn't they need help adding 150 and more pokemon?--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 11:41, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
::::Pronunciation is conflicting. It isn't just hard work. For example, Bonsly was pronounced with an ē once, then with an ī in another time. One was in the movie, the other in the anime, I've just forgotten which. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 11:58, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::Oh Really? We All Know That Charmander is pronounced ''Chaar-man-der''. Easy Enough?? Just search on google for pokemon pronunciation.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 12:05, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
::::::Yeah, no Google searching, thanks. The official sources (Official Handbooks, Anime, and Video Games) don't always agree on pronunciations of Pokémon names. Now, if the official sources all agree at one point, then we will add them. But until then, they're not going on the species pages. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<sc>Kogoro</sc>''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<sc>Talk to me</sc>''']] - 12:16, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
Okay Then. Moving to the next topic. What About Something at the Top of The Pokemon pics To Change the Picture into other generation art or to a Different form?--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 12:25, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:Most form changing Pokémon have their forms rotated based on the current time (see {{p|Arceus}}, then refresh the page). As for different generations, the infoboxes are set to display it on certain days—for example, on the anniversary of Red and Blue the Pokémon pages displayed their Red and Blue artwork (for those that have it). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:44, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

== Doesn't look like the servers are being nice ==

No, I'm not geting 504s (or, if I am, FireFox is hiding them); I'm getting something even worse: pages not loading at all. A couple of days ago, I was going to come here to get a small amount of information, and it took ages to do so (so long in fact that I just got it O_O). I think the servers are being overstressed - despite the fact that I was getting good ping times off of 10 pings to the site's router (if there is one), I couldn't load any pages - not even robots.txt! That is just a simple text document, and it wouldn't even load! I would start the lockdown soon, as the closer to release we get, the more activity we are likely to get.

I consider myself lucky I could even get on right now. [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 06:37, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

:The fifth generation Pokemon are invading Bulbapedia and interfering with the system! I haven't actually noticed any problems yet though, which is strange. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 20:38, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

== Finally! ==

as i mentioned Form changing above, We can use A method for pokemon with 2 different forms like giratina and shellos

Method: All you guys saw Avatar, Everyone Saw. Now See The [http://james-camerons-avatar.wikia.com Avatar Wiki]'s Jake Sully Article. There is a button below the pic to change the Picture into Human/Avatar. We can use that Method.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 16:48, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

:That's a really good idea actually, I think it would be better than the Pokemon's form just changing periodically. Perhaps now Bulbapedia is being upgraded for the fifth generation, it would be a convenient time for recoding the articles. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 20:36, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
::I dunno. Shaymin is also two formes, and changes with time. Shellos and Giratina, by the way, are not random. It's based on the hours. And unfortunately, that just changes the infobox picture; there are '''''several''''' things that change for forme changers. Unless your Ground-type moves miss against Altered Forme Giratina. What's that? They don't? But you can only use Earthquake five times? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:11, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:::Wikimon has a more extensive one that allows you to toggle the whole box, for example in the [http://wikimon.net/Agumon Agumon article], click the tabs. It even integrates the table of contents into it. Pretty clever. - [[User:DanPMK|MK]] ([[User Talk:DanPMK|t]]/[[Special:contributions/DanPMK|c]]) 04:57, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
::::see, only arceus has several things that needed to be changed. what about others?--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 07:52, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::What about Mebukijika and Genesect (yes, Genesect has other formes (I think five or six?)) [[User:Zekasaur|Zekasaur]] 10:53, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

:I also support the toggle idea. By the way, it has been mentioned in Arbok's Pokédex entries that it has at least six different patterns, of which two have appeared in official game art. Maybe it would be worthwhile to also toggle these two the same way? --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 09:05, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
::I say we just stick with actual forme changes, and not include design differences between canons. [[User:PDL|PDL]] 14:24, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

== Metric tags in Pokédex entries ==
All pokedex entries use the imperial units of measurement from the US translation. I suggest adding tags with the metric counterparts for two reasons:

1 - the original Japanese entries use metric units, so it could be seen as "more canon".

2 - there are international users of Bulbapedia (me included) that are not used to imperial units.

For example, the final sentence in Magneton's entry in Yellow could be: ''It raises the temperature by {{tt|3.6F degrees|2°C}} within {{tt|3,300 feet|1 km}}.''

If the staff agrees, I'm willing to go through all Pokedex entries and add the metric values. I know enough Japanese to easily get the official values from the pokedex entries listed on the Japanese wiki, assuming those are correct.

--[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 09:05, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

:Metric system seems like a pretty simple and straightforward thing to include, it's merely a big job to go through ''everything'' and add the metric equivalent. Perhaps starting small, with say the Pokémon infobox only for now, and work our way up (every infobox should list the Pokémon's height and weight, so it's the most prominent use of the imperial system). Pokédex entries are also pretty simple, but I'd also say they're the less important area to work on (no complaints if you want to fix them all yourself, however). --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 11:28, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

::Each Pokemon already have both their imperial and metric height and weight listed in their infobox, except for Generation 5, because their imperial values are not yet officially known. So pokedex entries are the most important area left to work on, as far as I can see. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 13:37, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

:::Unless someone else has a big complaint about it, I don't see why you can't go ahead and update those, in that case. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 14:47, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

::::I have done 101 out of 493 for now. I may have missed a few in scanning all those entries. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 23:59, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

== Question? ==

The option to write in the discussion for the Pokemon Black and White Versions isn't there. Are we not aloud to write there? --[[User:Mew is the Original One|Mew is the Original One]] 21:16, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:Yeah, but only if you're autoconfirmed, meaning you've been registered for a certain amount of time and have made a certain number of edits.--[[User:Cold|Cold]] ([[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 21:22, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
::OK thanks --[[User:Mew is the Original One|Mew is the Original One]] 22:09, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:::What is the amount of time and important edits? [[User:Zekasaur|Zekasaur]] 10:49, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

== 3D Artwork ==

This is something that's been on my mind for a while now, but I couldn't bring it up due to the lockdown. Does anyone else think it would be a good idea to possibly include 3D images of Pokémon and Pokémon moves, like what's done for anime? It could be done in a seperate section or sub-section of the articles. Oh, and I don't mean updating every time a new 3D game comes out; I mean adding images for each time a move or Pokémon has appeared in a 3D game, like images of Pidgeot from its appearances in Pokémon Stadium through Pokémon Battle Revolution. I don't know if this has been brought up before, but is this notion a good idea?--[[User:Black Yin Zekrom|Black Yin Zekrom]] 00:06, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
:Although i don't know much, but taking 3D Pics will be hard and i don't think its a very good idea.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 11:07, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Well, I don't quite know how it's done, but you don't take 3D pics by using a camera or something. The quality of the 3D images here prove that.--[[User:Black Yin Zekrom|Black Yin Zekrom]] 15:25, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

== Lylat Wiki ==

[http://starfoxwiki.org/Lylat_Wiki Lylat Wiki] is now a part of NIWA, Oct 8th and 15th two others will be added, so might wanna add that to your NIWA bar ;] [[User:Malake256|Malake256]] 17:03, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

== Main page design ==

Does no one else think Tsutarja is missing?
We have Bulbasaur, Treecko, Chikorita and Turtwig pics on the main page, but no Tsutarja (or victini if you want the first pokémon in the dex) I can feel it's absence when I look at the page. [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 19:55, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
:main page uses animated minisprites. we dont have Gen V animated minisprites. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[Special:Contributions/MAGNEDETH|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 19:56, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
::Yet. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:09, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
:::I can ''Make'' Them Animate. but it wont we official, and Archives are currently blocked.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 20:33, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
:::I see. That's a little worrying because they're not animated on my screen. [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 17:10, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
::::What browser are you running? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 07:26, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::on chrome and IE they don't work, only firefox. [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 12:44, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::I've heard that they also work on Opera. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 06:04, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Actually,there is a Tsutarja animated sprite Bulbagarden Archives, but there's no space for it. However, a Victini sprite has also been uploaded. [[User:Jlin8002|Jlin8002]] 00:00, 9 October 2010 (UTC)Jlin8002

== Shiny Gen V Sprites ==

I would like to know where we are going to put the shiny sprites for the fifth generation Pokémon. I have the sprites (official). [[User:Zekasaur|Zekasaur]] 10:47, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
:We have them, however we have yet to upload them. I guess I could do them today. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 11:28, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

== Translations ==

This is a big job, and would probably be a bad idea, but could we translate Bulbapedia into other languages? I know that we already have basic translations of Pokémon and Moves, but what about the rest of it?----[[User:Chalkwriter|Chalk]][[User talk:Chalkwriter|writer]] 18:08, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
:May I direct your attention [[Encyclopædiæ Pokémonis|here]] ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 18:09, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

== Clearer distinction between "natural" and Dream World abilities. ==

I think the distinction between pokémon that only have certain abilities through the Pokémon Dream World and those that don't can be made clearer. For example, on pages of separate abilities there is just one table with normal and PDW pokémon all mixed up, while it would be easier to make separate tables for both. I think this would help both users that own Pokémon Black or White and those that don't. Besides that we could also make a category for "Abilities exclusive to Pokémon Dream World", like {{a|Harvest}}. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 00:22, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
:On the separate pages, they are specfically listed in a separate column that says "Dream World ability". That seems separate enough. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 00:24, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
::Yes, but I think it would be easier if for example you are looking for a pokémon that has a certain ability, that you don't have to go through a list of which half of the pokémon are Dream World pokémon. Even for Dream World users like me pokémon in wild and in Dream World are two completely separate things. But yeah, it's not that necessary. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 09:32, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

== Grammar error ==

Being the Grammar Nazi I am, I have spotted an error I can't fix. I accidentally got logged out while editing a userpage, and I noticed there is a lack of space between sentences on the message that explains that new users cannot edit userpages. This is really bothering me, so could anyone with the power to edit the MediaWiki namespace fix it? [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 02:13, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
:Done, I think. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:20, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

== Update on Message to the Editor ==

[[Template:Main Page/Message from the Editor|'''This''']] should be updated, no? I think people would like to know it's been unlocked [[User:Malake256|Malake256]] 02:51, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
: Very true, its more that a month old [[User:Ruberduck0123|'''Ruber''']][[User talk:Ruberduck0123|'''duck''']][[Special:Contributions/Ruberduck0123|'''0123''']] 07:00, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
::It doesn't matter if it's five months old, he edits it when they have an announcement to make, he doesn't have to update it once a month people!! --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 13:46, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

== Bulbanews ==

I have a question : Can only staff members report news to bulbanews or can normal users also report --[[User:Vlade|Vlade]] 15:45, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Bulbanews is a different wiki altogether. Though they're both part of Bulbagarden, both Bulbapedia and Bulbanews have their own front pages. The information you're looking for is on Bulbanews's front page and if you have any other questions about it, it'd make sense to ask on that talk page rather than this one. [[n:Front page|here's a link, for convenience]] [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 20:26, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
:What Kanjo said is correct, but to answer your question, anyone is allowed to report news to Bulbanews. After submission, an admin or columnist needs to move it out of the draft namespace and into the mainspace. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 00:01, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

== Zoroark's Name ==

I think the Ark in its name could be cause it can transform into lots of pokemon like an ark of pokemon and the reason i posted it here cause i cant post it on Zoroark's article . --[[User:Vlade|Vlade]] 16:12, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
:First of all, if you can't post in an article, inquire in the article's talk page (i.e. [[Talk:Zoroark (Pokémon)]]), not Talk: Main Page. Secondly, that's a real stretch: that's not an actual definition of the word ark, it's just a vague metaphor. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 21:07, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

== Before you ask ==

Read the news. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:33, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

:Is it for the Japanese anime writer? If so, I suppose Chimecho is more appropriate than Lugia, considering how the little windchime links to places like Mt. Pyre and Sendoff Spring. It can be in greyscale if desired. Besides, what is more favourable aesthetically is that one may include Chingling too, instead of Lugia all over the place. [[User:Rxhar|Rxhar]] 09:46, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

::It's Lugia because the man is credited with helping to create it. It was on the news post. [[User:Tamah|Tamah]] 23:41, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

:::Well, it was more than a week by now, someone could remember me who edits the main page? --[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 16:14, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

== What'd I do wrong here? ==

[[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:Starck]]

... What happened? [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK]] [[Mudkip (Pokémon)|Leiks]] [[Lucario (Pokémon)|Lucario]] [[User talk:SpecialK|and the]] [[User:Missingno. Master/Celebi Glitch|Celebi Glitch]] 12:46, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
:Just create a page with <nowiki>{{subst:welcome}}</nowiki>.----'''''無限の知性''''' ◎ [[User:Dennou Zenshi|ＤＥＮＮＯＵ]]'''[[Special:Random|◆]]'''[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|ＺＥＮＳＨＩ]] 13:08, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

==EV Listings==

I was just thinking of a very useful idea. On the pages for each route, cave, etc, where the wild Pokémon are listen, I was thinking we should add another column after each Pokémon and say "1 Speed," or "2 Attack," or something. That, paired with encounter and level rates would help a great deal in EV training for all different levels. {{unsigned|Igglybuff63}}
:Well, I admit, this would be useful to some people, but this is an encyclopedia, not a walkthrough. Honestly, I don't see why you can't go to the Pokémon's page and check. I'm not for it, but I'm not exactly saying NO. --[[User:Si6x12|'''Si6''']][[User Talk:Si6x12|'''x12''']] 03:01, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
::I agree completely, however, it would be a nice little touch on the page for convenience. I'm not one of them, but I know some people have incredibly slow computers, and I can easily imagine the frustration of those who have slow connections along with a desire to EV train. [[User:Igglybuff63|Igglybuff63]] 14:00, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
:::I'm thinking no, but I do see a use in it. Perhaps {{bp|Project Walkthroughs}} would be a good place to ask. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 14:07, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
::::Putting every possible bit of information is dumb. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:04, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
:::::But that's not what we'd be doing now, is it? We wouldn't be putting their number, or Dex color, or Egg group, or anything like that, just the EV(s) they give. {{unsigned|Igglybuff63}}
::::::The number should already be there. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:50, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
:::::::No, I'm talking about on the route pages. {{unsigned|Igglybuff63}}
::::::::Don't make me go on a rant about users and clicking links. If you plan to EV train, then just look up the Pokémon that give EVs in whatever. We're an encyclopedia, not an EV training guide. Do some of your own research, dude. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:15, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::This isn't at all a matter of laziness. Heck, I'd be willing to go around and do a ton of the work, assuming I could figure out how to code it (which I can't) It's just a nice touch of convenience for users, you know? I mean, I'm fine if we don't do it, it's just a suggestion, after all. [[User:Igglybuff63|Igglybuff63]] 04:39, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

== Redirection Pages ==

Do we really need those redirection pages with one Pokémon used by a character, the TCG link, and the Pokémon link? We already have the Pokémon used by a character and it's TCG links on the page. I understand the ones for like Pikachu, but ones like Mr. Mime and Gengar don't need to be there, do they? [[User:DarthMartian7|DarthMartian7]] 03:09, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
:This is already being discussed on the forums, so please be patient. '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 03:13, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
::And how soon do we delete {{template|p}}, which I'm sure you all want. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:05, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

== What to do with Dream World artwork. ==

Currently we use some to replace the Sugimori artwork, but what to do when said artwork is avaiable?. Sincerely i thing it would be a waste to just leave the DW artwork floating alone. Do you agree? We should do something with it.
--[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 18:06, 15 November 2010 (UTC) Sorry, forgot signature
:It would be a waste. Also, how come we don't put up the old artwork on the Pokémon's page? It seems a waste not to include it on the page (especially when some trivia refers to it). [[User:Tesh|Teshigigas]] [[User_talk:Tesh|[Talk]]] 18:29, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
::Old artwork '''''is''''' on the pages, they just change from time to time [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 18:36, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
:::not really, Ataro. we are going to find a use for the images, but as of late weve had other things to focus on. rest assured, it will be showcased somewhere and in some way. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[Special:Contributions/MAGNEDETH|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 23:01, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
::::/me keeps reading the "In the Games" sections of pages (hint). [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 00:47, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
:::::Over at [http://www.zeldawiki.org/Main_Page Zelda wiki]they use a code of sorts that makes a picture change every time you refresh the page. It seemed to use a template called <nowiki>{{RandomLinkImage}}</nowiki> for [http://www.zeldawiki.org/Link this page]. I think I've seen simeler on userpages. It varied page to page. --[[User:Pika3323|Pika3323]] 20:34, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
:Maybe each Pokemon's page can feature a gallery of their art from all games. Just a random thought. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 21:17, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
::Eventually. There's always an issue with doing that though. And that is how many damned exceptions there are. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:13, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
:::Um, doesn't each Pokémon page link to a gallery anyway? --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 21:00, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
::::Em, we could show the artwork in the pages for "special" cases, like ivysaur. Ivysaur has purple colored eyes in the anime and Dream World--[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 22:44, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

== Trading pre-Unova ==

Some pokemon such as [[Bulbasaur]] say that you have to "trade" to get the Pokémon when you actually have to get it through Pokéshift, Dream World, or both? When are we going to change this? —[[User:Zekasaur|♫Ze]][[User talk:Zekasaur|kas]][[Special:Contributions/Zekasaur|aur♫]] 03:04, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
:It will likely be changed as soon as someone enters that specific information into the tables. If I recall correctly, the template defaults to saying "trade" if no data is entered. [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 04:58, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

== Preview ==
You know how it seems that everyone forgets to use the preview when they first come on? Well on NWiki, they have something that makes you show preview, and I was wondering if we could use that here. [[User:Gliscorguy54|Gliscorguy54]] 01:30, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
:I actually find that incredibly annoying on NWiki. If you are going around making minor edits, such as relinking, it just gets in the way. I'm pretty sure there is an option here to turn it on in preferences if you like it. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 02:10, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

== File:Ani586WMS.png not displaying ==

Could someone work on this? The file [[a:File:Ani586WMS.png]] isn't showing up on the main page. I checked the Archives and found that the filename is correct, but somehow or another it isn't working. Thanks. '''chief[[User:Chiefboz|boz]]''' ''(my [[User talk:Chiefboz|talk]] and [[Special:Contributions/Chiefboz|contributions]])'' 15:44, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
:There is nothing that can be done about this. It is just the archives not synchronizing with Bulbapedia. All we can do is wait for it to fix itself. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 03:28, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
::Hopefully before Christmas...[[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 03:33, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
:::It was actually displaying when MAGNEDETH added it. It fitted in nicely too... --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 04:29, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
::::It seems to be working now. '''chief[[User:Chiefboz|boz]]''' • [[User talk:Chiefboz|talk]] 17:25, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

== Pokémon SIENNA??? Why do we have NOTHING on this? See video ==

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQqH2HV7p10&feature=watch_response

I had no idea there was such a thing as a Sienna version of this!! Please, add the article: {{red link|Pokemon Sienna}}. Thanks! --[[User:Tanaka Shimoya|Tanaka Shimoya]] 13:27, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
:Maybe on [[hack games]]. But it probably isn't notable enough. Take it up on the talk page there. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:36, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
:You couls add it to {{red link|rom hacks}}{{unsigned|Ent3r}}
::No. That page does not and will not exist. The correct page is [[hack games]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 04:57, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
:::On the record, we only add really famous hack games to the [[hack games]] article. I've never heard of this one personally, so it probably doesn't need to be mentioned. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 06:06, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

== "Pokemon Apokelypse" ==

Anyone seen this?:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDX1m0Y2Vkg&feature=watch_response_rev

Looks like we don't have an article on it either. Why doesn't anyone create something about this? --[[User:Tanaka Shimoya|Tanaka Shimoya]] 13:29, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
:[[User:ShinyPikachu/Pokémon Apokélypse]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:36, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

There shouldn't be a page because its fan made. If it were a real Pokémon movie, then there should be a page. Although, I have to admit, it is pretty awesome and would make a cool movie for older Pokémon fans. [[User:Gryffindor1991|Gryffindor1991]] 23:33, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
:[[Bulbapedia:Project Fandom]] --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 14:00, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
:: Just to point out, a heck of a lot of wikis hold pages on notable fan projects. I don't mean projects like "my mate Billy made a hack", but rather projects that caused controversy, were published or otherwise became noteworthy. I think Apokelypse caused enough of a stir, a long with a heck of a lot of controversy about Pokémon canon. One has to commend the whole publicity hoax where the creators staged a theatre viewing of it, too. But on the flip side, seeing as this wiki doesn't even have a page on James Turner, it'd be silly to add a page on something less notable. Meh. Candy for all. [[User:Me, Hurray!|Me, Hurray!]] 20:00, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

== Did you know section: "...the typing of the first Unova Gym Leader is depend''a''nt..." ==

Shouldn't that read "depend'''e'''nt"? The spelling that currently appears on the Main Page isn't really accepted in American or British English. [[User:Ultraflame|Ultraflame]] 19:07, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
:Fixed. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:19, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

== A search bar? ==

Has Bulbapedia ever considered having a bar that would be used similar to the Google toolbar? It could have a place to search for an article on Bulbapedia, maybe even have a link to the home page, recent changes, bulbawiki forum, the archives, etc. This would mean easy access to not just the wiki, but so that people with the toolbar could get to a specific pafe faster as well! --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 22:16, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
:You mean a Bulbapedia Toolbar for a browser? That's something to think about, I guess. Maybe a Firefox addon or something. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:19, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
::Yes. That's what I meant. I'm not sure if it is even possible but if it was it would be very useful for viewing and editing Bulbapedia. --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 03:34, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
:::I would recommend bringing this up on the [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/forumdisplay.php?f=195 BulbaWiki forum]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 00:47, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
I thought there already was a search bar on the bulbagarden main page?
::::Yeah there's one on the main page but it's not accurate like google--[[User:Pika3323|Pika3323]] 22:03, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::Try [[Bulbapedia Search Bar Plugin]]. Anyone know how to program? '''chief[[User:Chiefboz|boz]]''' • [[User talk:Chiefboz|talk]] 04:45, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

== Countdown ==

Are we going to have a countdown for the NA release of Black and White? →'''[[User:Axxonn|ΑΧΧΟΝΝ]][[User talk:Axxonn|fi]][[Special:Contributions/Axxonn|re]]''' 01:54, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
:Why not. I think it's traditional to keep the Christmas garb up until January 5th, so we can change the colorscheme then. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:46, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
::Well can we change the color scheme now?--[[User:Lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 11:46, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Yep. We do it all the time. If look in the hidden code of [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Template:Main_Page&action=edit Template:Main Page], you can see all the alternate ones. Try previewing them on a different page (you won't be able to preview them on Template:Main Page because it is protected). So now that it's the sixth, I guess someone needs to change the colorscheme (I think trom wanted to change to the BW one). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:55, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

== Klink swap. ==

How in the world did everyone switch giaru with klink so FAST? If anyone thinks this is a funny comment I am a new user--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 01:46, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
:Many users, and [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Giaru (Pokémon)]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 02:18, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
::A. It was 3 whole days ago. B. Not many names were revealed. C. The names aren't linked in many places, so it is quick to change them. D. There are tons of people who are available 24/7 to change things as soon as possible. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 14:28, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
:::That would mean at LEAST one hundred users in each time zone! Just HOW many people do we have!--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 18:15, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
::::Read last sentence of [[Template:Forums_notice]]. Bulbabot is an <del>annoying</del> <code>awesome</code> bot that is a <del>tyrant</del> <code>friend</code> to everyone in <del>the world</del> <code>Bulbagarden</code>. However, it gets major things done quickly. [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 20:20, 5 February 2011 (UTC) (And Bulbabot, if you even TOUCH this post, I will <del>kill you</del> <code>give you a cookie</code>.)
:::::Except that Bulbabot is not suitable for those kinds of edits. It can't select a portion of a string (i.e. it can't pick a "Giaru" out of the mittle of a template like "{{p|Giaru}}"). It was all done by human editors. And generally there are 50-100 pages that need changing, and with ctrl+F and copypaste a single user can easily do two or three a minute. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 04:01, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
::::::What in the Nine Hells? Bulbabot can't do {{wp|regular expressions}}? Then what ''can'' it do? Is it written in Visual Basic? —[[User:Minimiscience|Minimiscience]] 04:15, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
:::::::TTE said that at one point. I don't remember where, or whether it was just that he didn't know how to set that himself. Bulbabot's programmer is Zhen Lin, who is currently away. As a result, Bulbabot can't currently be given new tasks. It will continue to perform the tasks it has been programmed to do. For the record, it is written in C#. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 04:36, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

== WHAT HAPPENED?!?! ==

WHAT HAPPENED TO BULBAPEDIA?!?!?!--[[User:Lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 04:48, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
:Nevermind. It's all good now.--[[User:Lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 04:49, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
...What did happen? --'''[[User:Flyingtypefan|~~☆Flyingtypefan☆~~]]''' '''''•[[User talk:Flyingtypefan|Talk]]•''''' '''''[[Delibird (Pokemon)|Holiday cheer]]•''''' 01:32, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

== TCG Proposal ==

While looking at some cards from [[Undaunted]], I came across Hariyama. So I clicked it, and the hue was WAY too bright. Could we adopt a darker color for Fighting type pokemon? [[User:TheTheDragon14|TheTheDragon14]] 23:39, 3 January 2011 (UTC)TheTheDragon14
:Specifically [[Hariyama (Undaunted 14)|this card]]? Yes, I agree. It is a bit bright. I suggest you take this to {{bp|Project TCG}}. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 23:57, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

== Log Out ==

I was changing my signature recently and nearly every time I pressed save I got logged out! What's happening? —[[User:Strongriver|強力な]][[User talk:Strongriver|河川]][[Special:Contributions/Strongriver|!]] 08:42, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
:I am being ignored. Someone help me! —[[User:Strongriver|強力な]][[User talk:Strongriver|河川]][[Special:Contributions/Strongriver|!]] 10:29, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
::I believe the server is having some problems at the moment. See [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showthread.php?t=39109&page=18 here] for a little more information. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 10:32, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

== Animated G5 Sprites... ==

Would it be possible to put in the full, animated versions of the sprites from Generation 5? Generation 2 and 3 sprites are animated... I was also wondering if this would just be too much trouble or would overload the server. You can find the sprites [http://www.arkeis.com/animatedsprites.html/ here.] (good website, I think that they're all accurate. Whoever made it did an awesome job). Also, those sprites wouldn't have to be used, it's just the resource that I found. the files are .gif files... Thanks!!! [[User:Bapplesauce|Bapplesauce]] 02:51, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
:Some of the BW sprites are animated PNGs. We don't want to use GIFs for Generation IV and V sprites. You have to have Firefox in order to see the animation because some browsers don't support it. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 02:57, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
::Oh, that's right- I always used to find some other animated images on here that wouldn't animate... Okay. Well, if anyone finds another way... or can get more animated PNGs... thanks. [[User:Bapplesauce|Bapplesauce]] 03:40, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Just so you know, you don't have to have Firefox; Opera works as well. However, I think those are the only major browsers that support APNG (IE and Chrome don't, I don't know about Safari). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:52, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

==Redirect problem==
[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Special:DoubleRedirects&limit=500&offset=0 O_O]. Uh, were these supposed to redirect to SmashWiki? Interwiki table prob? '''''[[User:HavocReaper48|--Havoc]][[User talk:HavocReaper48|48]]''''' 01:14, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
:I saw that too! I was confused. →'''[[User:Axxonn|ΑΧΧΟΝΝ]][[User talk:Axxonn|fi]][[Special:Contributions/Axxonn|re]]''' 01:21, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
::Yes the were. It comes with the NIWA affiliation. Unfortunately I'm not sure if there's a way to "fix" these redirects so that they don't appear on that page. It's not a problem though. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 01:25, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
:::They do work perfectly fine, but they just fill up that special page. It is a problem with the MediaWiki software. And for the record, only some redirect to SmashWiki; Mario goes to Mario Wiki, Kirby goes to WiKirby etc. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 06:44, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

==Countdown==
Don't know if anyone agrees with me but shouldn't the countdown be changed to the date of the European release considering it's the first English release of B+W?

Edit - Sorry forgot to sign --[[User:Daniel1993|Daniel1993]] 21:21, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
:Yes, it should. And since it's been confirmed, it now does. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 21:29, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

I think it should be the north american one.Wasent it that way with platinum?[[User:KylleyFab4Fan|KylleyFab4Fan]] 23:15, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
:The European date is the closest thing we have to the English release, I don't know what's wrong with that. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 23:18, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
::To clarify what Jello said, the date we use for the countdown is the ''first'' official ''English'' release date. For Platinum it was the North American date, as the North American date was before the European date. For Black and White the European date is first, so we are counting down to that date. If, by some chance, the next main series game(s) is/are released in Australia and New Zealand first (I wish), then we will count down to that date instead. There will be no preference for one English-speaking location over another. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 01:48, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Would putting up multiple countdowns overload the server?--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 18:13, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
::::I don't think that's what Werdnae meant. I think he meant just changing the one countdown to reflect the first official English release date. --[[User:Daniel1993|だにえる - 千九百九十三 ]] 20:52, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::Ah, I get it now.--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 02:11, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
::::::Yes, I was actually meaning changing the existing one (even if only once it had expired). However the same applies for multiple countdowns. The bigger issue (bigger than the server load) is that if we are going to have more than one countdown, we must then include a countdown for ''every'' English release, since we aren't being biased towards any one region. So we would probably end up with five or six, rather than two, and that would be too many. Not server-load too many, although it could prove problematic, but too many space-wise on the main page. If you wish to put your own countdown on your userpage, I remember seeing a template for it floating around in someone's userspace.

::::::The reason we are doing the first English release, rather than the American release, it that this is an Engligh-language site, rather than a specifically North American site. Although the servers are in the US, our webmaster, Archaic, lives in Australia. To make a special case for the North American release would appear as a great big insult to all our non-American users, since we've never done anything like that for the European release when it was second. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 02:27, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

:::::::Not to mention the fact that this ''is'' the first time that the European release date is before the North American one.--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 02:02, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

== Pokemon of the Week ==

We most make a Pokemon of the Week column. Almost every site makes one.
I`m sorry i didn`t sign. --Other help is what i can do. 16:56, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
:First of all, I'm not sure that we need one. We already have the Featured Article, or at least SHOULD have (I think the countdown is supressing it). Additionally, [[User:Nazirbashir|Nazirbashir]], make sure that your signature contains a link to your User page, like this: [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 02:25, 22 January 2011 (UTC) (it's part of the [[Bulbapedia:Signature_policy|policy]])
::just because other sites do something doesnt mean we should. i guess you could say our "Origin of Species" is similar to a PotW, only better. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[Special:Contributions/MAGNEDETH|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 05:36, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Where Origin of Species gone anyway? I havent seen one since Septemberish. '''D[[User talk:Dark Lord|ark Lord]]''' 18:17, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
::::The author of the column is currently on hiatus. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 01:19, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

== Save page error ==

I just don't get this. Every once in a while when I try to save an edit, the website says "This page is restricted to the following" even though I am a user--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 02:16, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
:It's probably a session loss error, causing it to behave as if you were logged out. If clicking back and trying again doesn't fix it, then logging out and then back in again should. The tech people are aware of the problem, but haven't yet been able to find what's causing it so they can fix it. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 02:27, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

::It's not a big problem for me. I just wanted to see if anyone else had this issue.--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 02:04, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

==Logging me out?!==
It keeps randomly logging me out! It's really annoying when, say, I've done an edit it won't let me save, but then sometimesI'm logged back in when I click on another page! What's going on? And before you ask, it's not my computer, it does it on the laptop as well. --[[User:Juzey|Juze]][[Shaymin (Pokémon)|y]] ''([[User talk:Juzey|Talk]])'' 11:58, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
:Sounds like a cookie problem to me. Also this isn't related to the Main Page, which is what this talk is for. It asks at the top for you to consider posting items unrelated to the Main Page, [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/forumdisplay.php?f=195 on the forum]. You'd likely get a better response there anyway. [[User:Smashman|Smashman]] 12:06, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
::It's either a cookie problem or a session loss problem. The second is an issue that has been going on for a while, but the tech guys haven't been able to figure out what's causing it in order to fix it. If it happens again, click back and try again. It should go through after a few attempts. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 01:24, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Thanks, it's just really annoying! --[[User:Juzey|Juzey]][[Shaymin (Pokémon)|!!]] ''([[User talk:Juzey|Talk]])'' 13:03, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

==Did You Know Section==

This hasn't been updated in months, it's pretty dead at this point. Does anyone have any good trivial facts for it? [[User:Igglybuff63|Igglybuff63]] 13:36, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
:The trivia up at the moment seems alright to me, but maybe we could add more. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 14:00, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

== Idea for Pronunciations ==

Listen, I have an idea about the pronunciations: You can list ALL of the pronunciations, and say where they're from! Sound good? [[User:Magikarp123193|magikarp123193]] 01:03, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
:Nope, we had this done before. It was shortly removed afterwards as there was many conflicts from various sources on how to pronounce it. --[[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''☆''']][[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''Pikachu!''']] 01:12, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
::Erm... I think magikarp123193 means "list all of the conflicting pronunciations (anime, guides, etc.) for ''each species''," unless you're trying to say that there are just way, way too many different pronunciations for, say, Glalie. —[[User:Minimiscience|Minimiscience]] 01:44, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
:::I think it sounds like a good idea! --[[User:Juzey|Juzey]][[Shaymin (Pokémon)|!!]] ''([[User talk:Juzey|Talk]])'' 13:07, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
::::Oh no, no damn way. I remember the last time that happened. Also, having all pronounciation is just tedious and stupid.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Reshiram (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Zekrom (Pokémon)|ire]] 13:20, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::Why; what happened? [[User:Magikarp123193|magikarp123193]] 23:53, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
:::::EDIT: Oh, and by the way, I don't mean using sound clips; those are O-U-T OUT. [[User:Magikarp123193|magikarp123193]] 23:55, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
::::::Wait, hold on, I think this is a great idea. Pokémon Battle Revolution has all the Pokémon names through Gen. IV pronounced like they're supposed to be. PBR is a canon game made correctly by Nintendo, and 4Kids has has some inaccuracies in the past. I think if a conflict arises we should just consult PBR. [[User:Igglybuff63|Igglybuff63]] [[User talk:Igglybuff63|(Talk)]] 14:36, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

==Anonymous users==
I read somewhere about a discussion on whether anonymous users should be allowed to edit (I think), and I have an idea. How about just letting them edit talk pages? They might have something interesting to say. --[[User:Juzey|Juzey]][[Shaymin (Pokémon)|!!]] ''([[User talk:Juzey|Talk]])'' 10:47, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
:I think that if they have something important to say that they need to say desperately then they will make an account. There is too much room for vandalism amongst anonymous, unregulated users. I say it's a bad idea however it is approached.--[[User:Daniel1993|だにえる - 千九百九十三 ]] 20:50, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
::I suppose you do have a point.--[[User:Juzey|Juzey]][[Shaymin (Pokémon)|!!]] ''([[User talk:Juzey|Talk]])'' 11:26, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

== La-dee-FLIPPIN dah... ==
You DO know Nintendo Power posted the rest of the english names, don't you? And that Serebii is using them! Don't believe me? Check it out yourself on Serebii.net. I will expect you guys to use these names from now on! - (User:Oricalu|Ori'''cal'''u) {{unsigned|Oricalu}}

:Unfortunately, what you expect to happen is not something that will happen, as has been stated numerous times on the fifth generation Pokémon talk pages (Janovy rings a bell), it is not known where this list came from, and as a result is not a reliable source of information regardless of the correctness of the current information it contains. If the list did appear in Nintedo Power (which Serebii hasn't stated per your argument) I'd say the editorial board would then make another decision. Until such a time that the names are seen used in official sources (Nintendo themselves for example, which contained the most recent batch of English names) the pages won't be moved. As per what is the editorial boards decision. --[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] 00:29, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
::What issue do you or Serebii have that this list comes from? I have the February issue and it only lists the ones we have moved. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 04:14, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Every name on that list so far has been true. Just sayin! - [User:Oricalu|Ori''cal''u]{{unsigned|Oricalu}}
:Just because they have been right so far doesn't mean they are all right. We will wait for official conformation. Also, next time you post sign your post. --[[User:Daniel1993|だにえる - 千九百九十三 ]] 16:53, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Once again, all the names revealed today were the SAME FLIPPIN NAMES on Serebii! Every last one I knew! New names aren't that fun when you know them, so let's just use the new list! I'm tellin ya, Serebii and the rest of the world are right! - [[User:Oricalu|Ori'''cal'''u]]
:Yeah, I'm with this guy. How many names have to be revealed before you all realize that the list can't possibly be fake? And don't say "all of them", either. I mean, Serebii updated with the names, that should be good enough for anybody. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 13:48, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
::Finally! Someone who agrees with me! - [[User:Oricalu|Ori'''cal'''u]]

At least update Meloetta's Form Names; Voice form is "Aria Form" and Step form is "Pirouette Form" - [[User:Oricalu|Ori'''cal'''u]] [[User:Oricalu|Oricalu]] 14:05, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Even though there is a list of all the names and it's been correct so far (and will probably be right about the other names), the remaining names on the list have not been confirmed officially by Nintendo, which means it's not officially canon yet. Remember, this is a wiki, not a fansite. Even though I don't think Serebii made a bad decision about trusting the list, but Serebii is not "official" and can take the risk of getting a few names wrong. - [[User:Togelover]]
:Just because Serebii says they are real does not mean we will put him. He is not and will not be an "official" source because the names have been confirmed so far. Unless we get some type of non-fan site confirmation, we will post them. Until then you can wait. --[[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''☆''']][[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''Pikachu!''']] 23:59, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

== Another random bit of trivia about B/W ==

I saw the "Did You Know" thing about B/W getting a 40/40 in the magazine, and I also wanted to note that they got a 8.75 in Game Informer, which is the highest I'VE seen a Pokemon game get in that magazine. {{Unsigned|Tailzfoxy96}}
:However the significance of the 40/40 is that Famitsu (the magazine in question) very rarely gives perfect scores whereas this other rating is not a perfect score and no matter how high the score or how low previous scores have been it is still not trivia-worthy. --[[User:Daniel1993|だにえる - 千九百九十三 ]] 17:05, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

== Bots Bots Bots! ==

I know this isn't the place for this, but what is with all of the bots on Bulbapedia lately? Have we ever had it this badly? --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 22:49, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
: They broke through the Capcha, we can't stop them now. [[User:Gliscorguy54|Gliscorguy54]] 22:51, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
::Didn't you ask Jello the same question a few days ago? [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 23:33, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
:::Kinda, I asked how they got through the Captcha. Now, I'm asking why the new bot account rate seems to be increasing and if there is some sort of pattern i.e. everytime new games are released. --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 01:31, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
::::Well, duh. If a game is being released, then there is a great influx of readers. With the good comes the bad. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 16:46, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
:::::Okay, well it appears the spam bots have been creating a TON of ''weight loss'' articles. It's not like the bunches of speculation we've ''also'' been getting. Since the spambots have a common factor in their spam, then it's clear that they are all related somehow. Whether they are being created by a company or business is beyond me, but this is beginning to be a bit too much like a forum discussion, so we should just let the admins handle it and get back to editing the mainspace before getting into a big off-topic discussion. --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 21:53, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
::::::From reading a MediaWiki users' forum and asking operators of other wikis, it seems that someone has just written bot code and is in the process of sending the bots through a list of wikis he's found somewhere. We are not the only wiki being targeted with this kind of action. (And to be honest, I'm surprised the bots can land any edits, given the amount of session loss errors around... and please no one start complaining about that now; we know they exist and we're working on it.) —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:58, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
:::::::What about this idea: Making it mandatory to have a registered email address to edit this wiki. The reason why there are so many spambots is because an email address isnt required to edit the wiki. If somehow the Mediawiki code can be changed in order to make email registration mandatory.--[[User:PresidentMudkip|PresidentMudkip]] 01:05, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
::::::::As far as I'm aware, email address confirmation has been required to edit mainspace pages for a long time now, since before I joined in late 2008. These bots must therefore be able to confirm their email addresses. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 01:38, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

== Pokemon Game Synopsis? ==

I've scoured Bulbapedia and google for the synopsis of the Pokemon games but can't find them at all! Can anyone point me to them?
Eg, How each games unfolds and how they link into eachother (I know there's a lot to do with gen I in the gen II games)
Thanks! [[User:Dazzaclarke|Dazzaclarke]] 20:06, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
:I believe the closest you can get to a synopsis of the story is rather each article's Plot section such as [[Pokémon Red and Green Versions#Plot|this]]. OR For a walk through the plot of each game you can look here: [[Bulbapedia:Project Walkthroughs/To-do list|Walkthroughs]]. --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 23:50, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
::You could also try [[history of the Pokémon world]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 00:54, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

== Date ==

Um, today is not march 4th... [[User:Mesuxelf|Mesprit]], [[User talk:Mesuxelf|Uxie]], [[User:Mesuxelf|Azelf]]. Mesuxelf 00:03, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
:It is currently March 4th, UTC. --[[User:Carmenstar97|Carmen]] ''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|(Talk |]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|Contributions)]]'' 00:07, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
:: it is 7:42 PM, march 3rd.. [[User:Mesuxelf|Mesprit]], [[User talk:Mesuxelf|Uxie]], [[User:Mesuxelf|Azelf]]. Mesuxelf 00:42, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
:::Only if you are in the Eastern Standard Timezone. The timer on the main page is measuring in Greenwich Mean Time.--[[user:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] I lie in wait...... 00:46, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
:::: Oh, thx! [[User:Mesuxelf|Mesprit]], [[User talk:Mesuxelf|Uxie]], [[User:Mesuxelf|Azelf]]. Mesuxelf 00:47, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
:::::Doesn't Black and White come out on the 6th? Why does it say it's out on the 4th? - [[User:Bpc908|Bpc908]] 00:56, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
::::::Because it comes out in Europe on the 4th, which is today, a couple of days ahead of when it comes out in the US, which is the 6th. --[[User:Jediknightdtv|ジェダイの騎士]][[User talk:Jediknightdtv|デジタルテレビ]] 01:01, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

== Let's count down to March 6 now! ==

Why not? [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]]) 02:19, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
:Uh, what would be the point of that? It is only two days away, and the games are out in English now, since they are out in Europe. It just so happened with Gen V that Europe got the first English language games, instead of the US. --[[User:Jediknightdtv|ジェダイの騎士]][[User talk:Jediknightdtv|デジタルテレビ]] 02:51, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
::[[#Countdown 2|This is why it's not going to happen]]. Full stop. End. Of. Story. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 05:03, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

==Small Idea==

Is it planned exactly what time the website would be lockdowned during game releases? If so maybe you could post a warning on the website banner around what time the website would be locked if possible so users making large edits won't lose all of their work? Just a idea. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 01:48, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
:If you haven't figure it out by now, it's usually during the time of the release of a new game. It's usually locked down to reduce server stress. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 01:59, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
::Yes I realize that but the website was blocked on last friday or so it was fine at 2:30 but blocked at around 3:13 it's very hard to know when it's gonna lock down with no warning. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 02:02, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
:::We don't have a schedule for when the site is locked. It's unfortunate, and we don't do it to inconvenience Bulbapedia editors. When the traffic to Bulbapedia spikes to such a rate which can trigger server outages, we close off editing. This vastly reduces the number of pages being loaded, therefore reducing server use levels. This may happen at any time, especially around new games (although we have had work done to our network of servers recently which should hopefully reduce this in future). I apologise, but there is no way we can give any kind of warning for locking the site. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:06, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
Okay I just wanted to know if it was possible. I know all about the server stress and the chaos it takes to run the site around high traffic times. Thank you for anwsering. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 02:09, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

== Bulba-style templates ==

I see that you are updating many generic templates with a style that fits Bulbawikis better, such as the one for the contents list on many articles. Are you planning on doing the same for the image and category templates as well? [[User:Pokemon lover|ポケモン]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|あいこうか]] 16:50, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

== Emerald animated sprites out of whack ==

Can somebody please explain why all of the animated sprites from Emerald version are playing really fast? --[[User:Fimbulwinter2012|☆'''FiMbUlWiNtEr2O|2'''☆]] 01:49, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
:They look normal to me. What browser are you using? —[[User:Minimiscience|Minimiscience]] 02:33, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
::I'm using Google Chrome. --[[User:Fimbulwinter2012|☆'''FiMbUlWiNtEr2O|2'''☆]] 23:01, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
:::A recent update to Chrome sent them faster for whatever reason.—★[[User:Pika3323|Pika]][[User Talk:Pika3323|3323]] 23:05, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
:::: It appears that the ''Emerald'' sprites are also sped up in Mozilla Firefox for some reason; I viewed the pages of the Hoenn starters to inspect the occurrence, and the problem may be most evident with [[Whiscash]]'s page, as I recall that its "flopping" is typically one of the longer ''Emerald'' animations...[[User:Fenyx4|Fenyx4]] 05:44, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
:::::Firefox, Google chrome, and Opera do this, don't know why. =P Firefox, and Opera support APNG, maybe there is a sacrifice for APNG support?—★[[User:Pika3323|Pika]][[User Talk:Pika3323|3323]] 12:40, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

== Moves in Triple Battles ==

I know you have what positions moves target in Triple Battles but it's not entirely clear. I can't tell whether it means it will hit all 3 opponents or just the 2 non diagonal ones infront of you. If it could be more specific as in which Pokemon it will hit if you are in the centre and which Pokemon you will hit if you are at the side. Thanks. [[User:Lucky V4.0|Lucky V4.0]] 10:41, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
:The diagrams should help, but unfortunately we are half-way through updating them. Most moves which say that they can hit any opponent can only hit adjacent opponents. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 10:48, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

== Moving Sprites for Black and White ==

I have seen how on this site and many others how the Crystal and Emerald sprites move on their list of sprites but ones on DPP and HGSS don't. I can understand because they only flash between 2 separate sprites but for Black and White the sprites are constantly in motion and I have seen moving images of them before on the internet so I don't think it will be a problem to add them to the pages. [[User:Lucky V4.0|Lucky V4.0]] 10:44, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
:Most sprites from DPPtHGSSBW are animated. However, they are animated PNG files, so cannot be seen animated in all browsers. They cannot be seen in Internet Explorer or Google Chrome, while they can in Mozilla Firefox and Opera. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 10:48, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
::Correction: Most sprites from BW ''should'' be animated, but I don't think all of them have been uploaded yet. In particular, I believe we lack the animated sprites for a number of National Dex Pokémon. Unfortunately, it's a bit more complicated than just adding ones you find on the internet: For one, most of the ones you find elsewhere might be the wrong format, and we would also want to get them directly from the game in order to make sure they're completely accurate. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 12:32, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

== Diamond and Pearl themed Main Page ==

The page appears to be a Diamond & Pearl theme today - any particular reason? ----[[Freeze Bolt|Cyclone]][[Totodile|blaze]] ([[User:Cycloneblaze|user]] - [[User talk:Cycloneblaze|talk]]) 13:51, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
:I would guess it's because Diamond and Pearl has been out for 4 years today in North America. --[[User:Carmenstar97|Carmen]] ''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|(Talk |]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|Contributions)]]'' 14:02, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
::Yes, Carmenstar is right. The main page usually changes its layout in times like these, this time is for the fourth anniversary of Diamond and Pearl. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 14:14, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

== Irrelevant info ==
May I make a statement? Other users (Kenji-girl, for example) won't let me delete irrelevant information! Block them and remove all irrelevant info! Please? It will make this Wiki more efficient!{{unsigned|Magikarp123193}}
:Said user is a Super Admin, meaning that '''''she''''' can block '''''you''''' and that she knows what she is doing [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 22:23, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

== Shorthand route naming system ==

Would it be a good idea to have a shorthand method of referring to routes, for example

*R1 links to route 1
*UR1 links to Unova route 1
Is this a good idea? [[User:Mattrules161|Mattrules161]] 11:00, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
:Too many things can be considered "R". I know, for example, that the Japanese cards have recently been listing Rare as R on cards and UltraRare as UR. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 11:29, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

:Yes, but this would always be followed by a number to avoid confusion. If needed a disambiguation page could be placed at R to link to Route and TCG, same at UR except link to Unova[[User:Mattrules161|Mattrules161]] 12:17, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Main Page/Archive 11

2011-04-26T11:00:59Z

Mattrules161: /* Shorthand route naming system */ new section

Deino (Pokémon)

2011-04-26T10:41:29Z

Mattrules161: Fixed egg cycles

{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Durant | next=Zweilous | prevnum=632 | nextnum=634 | type=Dark | type2=Dragon}}
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name=Deino |
jname=モノズ |
tmname=Monozu |
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pron=<sc>''{{{pron|moh-noh-zoo}}}''</sc> |
species=Irate|
typen=2 |
type1=Dark |
type2=Dragon |
abilityn=1 |
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udex=139 |
height-ftin=2'07" |
height-m=0.8 |
weight-lbs=38.1 |
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'''Deino''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''モノズ''' ''Monozu'') is a dual-type {{2t|Dark|Dragon}} Pokémon introduced in [[Generation V]].

It [[evolution|evolves]] into {{p|Zweilous}} starting at [[level]] 50 and then into {{p|Hydreigon}} starting at level 64.

==Biology==
===Physiology===
Deino is a small blue skinned quadrupedal Pokémon with black fur covering its head and neck which conceal everything but its mouth from view. The fur around its neck also has six purple spots encircling it and the hair on the top of its head takes the shape of a single small horn. It also has a short tail.

====Gender differences====
None

===Special abilities===
Deino have the vigor and energy to bite constantly and without stopping.
===Behavior===
Because they are blind, Deino will bite at anything. They never stop biting, and are therefore dangerous to approach without taking precautions. They will also ram anything, ensuring that they always have bruises all over them.

===Habitat===

===Diet===
{{main|Pokémon food}}
Deino can and will eat anything.

==In the anime==

===Major appearances===

===Minor appearances===

==In the manga==

==In the TCG==
{{main|Deino (TCG)}}

==Game data==

===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex
|type=Dark
|type2=Dragon
|gen=5
|blackdex=It tends to bite everything, and it is not a picky eater. Approaching it carelessly is dangerous.
|whitedex=They cannot see, so they {{m|tackle}} and {{m|bite}} to learn about their surroundings. Their bodies are covered in wounds.
}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability|
type=Dark |
type2=Dragon |
gen=5 |
bwrarity=Rare|
bwarea={{un|Victory Road}} |
}}

====In side games====

===Held items===

===Stats===
====Base stats====
{{BaseStats|
type=Dark |
type2=Dragon |
HP=52 |
Attack=65 |
Defense=50 |
SpAtk=45 |
SpDef=50 |
Speed=38 }}

===Type effectiveness===
{{Type effectiveness|
type1=Dark |
type2=Dragon |
Normal= 100 |
Fighting= 200 |
Flying= 100 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 100 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 200 |
Ghost= 50 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 50 |
Water= 50 |
Grass= 50 |
Electric= 50 |
Psychic= 0 |
Ice= 200 |
Dragon= 200 |
Dark= 50 |
notes=yes |
dark=yes |
newpsychic=1 |
}}

===Learnset===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{learnlist/levelh|Deino|Dark|Dragon|5|5}}
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Tackle|Normal|Physical|50|100|35}}
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Dragon Rage|Dragon|Special|—|100|10}}
{{learnlist/level5|4|Focus Energy|Normal|Status|—|—|30}}
{{learnlist/level5|9|Bite|Dark|Physical|60|100|25||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|12|Headbutt|Normal|Physical|70|100|15}}
{{learnlist/level5|17|DragonBreath|Dragon|Special|60|100|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|20|Roar|Normal|Status|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/level5|25|Crunch|Dark|Physical|80|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|28|Slam|Normal|Physical|80|75|20}}
{{learnlist/level5|32|Dragon Pulse|Dragon|Special|90|100|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|38|Work Up|Normal|Status|—|—|30}}
{{learnlist/level5|42|Dragon Rush|Dragon|Physical|100|75|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|48|Body Slam|Normal|Physical|85|100|15}}
{{learnlist/level5|52|Scary Face|Normal|Status|—|100|10}}
{{learnlist/level5|58|Hyper Voice|Normal|Special|90|100|10}}
{{learnlist/level5|62|Outrage|Dragon|Physical|120|100|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/levelf|Deino|Dark|Dragon|5|5}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{learnlist/tmh|Deino|Dark|Dragon|5|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM05|Roar|Normal|Status|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM06|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|90|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM10|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|—|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM11|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|—|—|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM12|Taunt|Dark|Status|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM17|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM18|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM21|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM27|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM32|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM41|Torment|Dark|Status|—|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM42|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM44|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM45|Attract|Normal|Status|—|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM46|Thief|Dark|Physical|40|100|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM48|Round|Normal|Special|60|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM59|Incinerate|Fire|Special|30|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM73|Thunder Wave|Electric|Status|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM77|Psych Up|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM82|Dragon Tail|Dragon|Physical|60|90|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM83|Work Up|Normal|Status|—|—|30}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM87|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM90|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM94|Rock Smash|Fighting|Physical|40|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|HM04|Strength|Normal|Physical|80|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tmf|Deino|Dark|Dragon|5|5}}

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
{{learnlist/breedh|Deino|Dark|Dragon|5|5}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|610|Axew}}{{MSP|611|Fraxure}}{{MSP|612|Haxorus}}|Assurance|Dark|Physical|50|100|10||||'''}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|333|Swablu}}{{MSP|334|Altaria}}|Astonish|Ghost|Physical|30|100|15|}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|023|Ekans}}{{MSP|024|Arbok}}{{MSP|336|Seviper}}|Dark Pulse|Dark|Special|80|100|15||||'''}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|634|Zweilous}}{{MSP|635|Hydreigon}}|Double Hit|Normal|Physical|35|90|10|}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|443|Gible}}{{MSP|444|Gabite}}{{MSP|445|Garchomp}}|Earth Power|Ground|Special|90|100|10||||}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|004|Charmander}}{{MSP|005|Charmeleon}}{{MSP|006|Charizard}}{{MSP|024|Arbok}}{{MSP|373|Salamence}}{{MSP|445|Garchomp}}|Fire Fang|Fire|Physical|65|95|15|}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|559|Scraggy}}{{MSP|560|Scrafty}}|Head Smash|Rock|Physical|150|80|5|}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|024|Arbok}}{{MSP|130|Gyarados}}|Ice Fang|Ice|Physical|65|95|15|}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|023|Ekans}}{{MSP|024|Arbok}}{{MSP|252|Treecko}}{{MSP|253|Grovyle}}{{MSP|254|Sceptile}}{{MSP|336|Seviper}}|Screech|Normal|Status|—|85|40|}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|024|Arbok}}{{MSP|373|Salamence}}|Thunder Fang|Electric|Physical|65|95|15|}}{{learnlist/breedf|Deino|Dark|Dragon|5|5}}

====By [[Move tutor|tutoring]]====
{{learnlist/tutorh|Deino|Dark|Dragon|5|5}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Draco Meteor|Dragon|Special|140|90|5||'''|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutorf|Deino|Dark|Dragon|5|5}}

====Special moves====

===={{Trading Card Game}}-only moves====

===Side game data===

===Evolution===
{{evobox
|family=Normal
|sprite1=633
|name1=Deino
|type1-1=Dark
|type2-1=Dragon
|evotype1=Level
|level1=50
|sprite2=634
|name2=Zweilous
|type1-2=Dark
|type2-2=Dragon
|evotype2=Level
|level2=64
|sprite3=635
|name3=Hydreigon
|type1-3=Dark
|type2-3=Dragon}}

===Sprites===
{{Sprite|
type=dark|
type2=dragon|
gen=5|
gender=none|
name=Deino|
ndex=633|
}}

==Trivia==
* Of all the Pokémon that evolve by level alone, Deino evolves to its final form, Hydreigon, later than any other Pokémon, evolving at level 64.
** Deino also evolves into its second form at level 50, later than any other Pokémon that evolves by level than can evolve again.
* Deino's evolutionary family, along with {{p|Bagon}}'s, are the only Pokémon exclusively in the {{egg3|Dragon}}.
* No other Pokémon has the same [[type]] [[List of Pokémon with unique type combinations|combination]] as Deino and its {{p|Zweilous|evolutionary}} {{p|Hydreigon|relatives}}.
* Despite being blind, Deino is still affected by {{m|Flash|accuracy}}-{{m|Sand-Attack|reducing}} {{m|SmokeScreen|moves}} that would seemingly require the target have eyesight to work.

===Origin===
Deino is based on a {{wp|dragon}}. Its blindness and the fact that it is only found in the {{un|Victory Road}} cave may mean it might be based on a {{wp|troglobite}}, possibly a cave {{wp|salamander}}. A troglobite is an animal that lives entirely in the dark parts of caves. However, the fact that its evolution, {{p|Zweilous}}, lives in cities may mean it might be based on a {{wp|trogloxene}} instead, which is an animal that live parts of its life in caves but not entirely.

====Name origin====
Deino may come from ''dino'', a slang term for a dinosaur, and ''ein'', German for one. Deino could also be derived from the ancient Greek word ''deinos'', which means terrifying. Monozu probably derives from ''mono'', a Greek prefix meaning ''one'', and 頭 ''zu'', Japanese for ''head'', its full name literally reading ''"one head"''.

==In other languages==
*[[List of German Pokémon names|German]]: Kapuno - From ''{{tt|caput|Latin: head}}'' and ''uno''.
*[[List of French Pokémon names|French]]: Solochi


==External links==

==Notes==
<references />
{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Durant | next=Zweilous | prevnum=632 | nextnum=634 | type=Dark | type2=Dragon}}
{{Project Pokédex notice}}

[[de:Kapuno]]
[[fr:Solochi]]
[[ja:モノズ]]

Talk:Deino (Pokémon)

2011-04-26T10:39:52Z

Mattrules161: /* Egg Cycles */ typo

"Mono" is derived from one, the amount of heads the Pokémon currently has.

Monozu and its evolutionary line may be based upon the [[wp:Lernaean Hydra|Lernaean Hydra]] of Greek Mythology, a beast that grew two more heads in its place if one was severed.

[[User:Yurtablemoron|Yurtablemoron]] 00:30, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:you can add it to the article itself you know...[[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 00:38, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

==Egg Cycles==
It seems that Deino eggs require 41 cycles to hatch, form my own ingmae experience and other websites (Psypoke, Serebii and others). I'd rather not mess up the page with my non-existent experience at editing, so if someone wants to change that...
You should also delete the trivia part about it "Deino is the only pseudo-legendary that requires 21 cycles to hatch", or whatever. [[User:Xel|Xel]] 07:39, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

In future, add your info at the bottom of the page in a new section, unless it is related to other info. Use the + button next to edit to do this. Edited.[[User:Mattrules161|Mattrules161]] 10:39, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Deino (Pokémon)

2011-04-26T10:39:32Z

Mattrules161: /* Egg Cycles */

"Mono" is derived from one, the amount of heads the Pokémon currently has.

Monozu and its evolutionary line may be based upon the [[wp:Lernaean Hydra|Lernaean Hydra]] of Greek Mythology, a beast that grew two more heads in its place if one was severed.

[[User:Yurtablemoron|Yurtablemoron]] 00:30, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:you can add it to the article itself you know...[[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 00:38, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

==Egg Cycles==
It seems that Deino eggs require 41 cycles to hatch, form my own ingmae experience and other websites (Psypoke, Serebii and others). I'd rather not mess up the page with my non-existent experience at editing, so if someone wants to change that...
You should also delete the trivia part about it "Deino is the only pseudo-legendary that requires 21 cycles to hatch", or whatever. [[User:Xel|Xel]] 07:39, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

In future, add your info at the bottom of the page in a new section, unless it is related to other info. Use the + burron next to edit to do this. Edited.[[User:Mattrules161|Mattrules161]] 10:39, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Deino (Pokémon)

2011-04-26T10:39:17Z

Mattrules161: /* Egg Cycles */

"Mono" is derived from one, the amount of heads the Pokémon currently has.

Monozu and its evolutionary line may be based upon the [[wp:Lernaean Hydra|Lernaean Hydra]] of Greek Mythology, a beast that grew two more heads in its place if one was severed.

[[User:Yurtablemoron|Yurtablemoron]] 00:30, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:you can add it to the article itself you know...[[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 00:38, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

==Egg Cycles==
It seems that Deino eggs require 41 cycles to hatch, form my own ingmae experience and other websites (Psypoke, Serebii and others). I'd rather not mess up the page with my non-existent experience at editing, so if someone wants to change that...
You should also delete the trivia part about it "Deino is the only pseudo-legendary that requires 21 cycles to hatch", or whatever. [[User:Xel|Xel]] 07:39, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
In future, add your info at the bottom of the page in a new section, unless it is related to other info. Use the + burron next to edit to do this. Edited.[[User:Mattrules161|Mattrules161]] 10:39, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Deino (Pokémon)

2011-04-26T10:39:06Z

Mattrules161: Fixed misplacement, edit summary

"Mono" is derived from one, the amount of heads the Pokémon currently has.

Monozu and its evolutionary line may be based upon the [[wp:Lernaean Hydra|Lernaean Hydra]] of Greek Mythology, a beast that grew two more heads in its place if one was severed.

[[User:Yurtablemoron|Yurtablemoron]] 00:30, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:you can add it to the article itself you know...[[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 00:38, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

==Egg Cycles==
It seems that Deino eggs require 41 cycles to hatch, form my own ingmae experience and other websites (Psypoke, Serebii and others). I'd rather not mess up the page with my non-existent experience at editing, so if someone wants to change that...
You should also delete the trivia part about it "Deino is the only pseudo-legendary that requires 21 cycles to hatch", or whatever. [[User:Xel|Xel]] 07:39, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
In future, add your info at the bottom of the page in a new section, unless it is related to other info. Use the + burron next to edit to do this. Edited.[[User:Mattrules161|Mattrules161]] 10:39, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Pokémon Emerald Version

2011-04-23T20:27:29Z

Mattrules161: /* What's the fastest repeatable way to earn Pokedollars here? */ accidental box

''New areas including the Safari Zone'' Huh? The Safari Zone was already there--or do you mean new areas *in* the Safari Zone?

I think whoever made this meant in the Safari zone. I'll edit it..[[User:LedianX|LedianX]] 23:07, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)

==Release Date==

The Article says Emerald was ''released elsewhere on April 23rd'' yet the US release date is listed as May 1st, that needs fixing. - [[User:MTC|MTC]] 14:00, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== Question ==

Probably the wrong place to ask, but if I get my Pokémon above level 50 before getting the badge that lets you control level 70 Pokémon, will it still obey me?--[[User:ObsessedMinunFan|ObsessedMinunFan]] 19:51, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

: As long as they are ''your'' Pokémon and not traded. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 01:11, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

::Ah, ok. Thank you for clearing this up for me. I wish I'd have known it sooner, though, before I went though 15 minutes of utter frustration and yelling at my Pokémon when I fought [[Flannery]].--[[User:ObsessedMinunFan|ObsessedMinunFan]] 01:14, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

== Stub classification ==

Why is this article a stub? It's true that this game doesn't have information on it's plot or anything but most of it is repeated from [[Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire]]. I noticed the same thing in regards to [[Pokémon Yellow|Yellow]] and [[Pokémon Crystal|Crystal]] too. What can be done to remove these articles of their stub-status without repeating almost all of the information from their respective prequels (i.e. [[Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire]] to Emerald)? [[User:Kochdude388|Kochdude388]] 00:19, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
:That's a good question, really. I think that what the goal should be for all of them is to elevate them to the same length and quality as that of the article on Diamond and Pearl. I think the most basic thing to de-stub-ize those articles would be to make sure that the length of the text is greater than that of the editbox. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 01:10, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

==Shinies==
Umm... This is probably a stupid question, but, are there any shinies in Emerald. [[User:GlalieGuy| Glalie ex]]
:Yes. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] ~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]] 21:17, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
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...seriously, are there actual shiny animated sprites in Emerald's code or something? Because like.. I dunno, it's just weird that all of the sources I go to have 'Missing' or nothing in the shiny Emerald sprite section. :S [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 19:04, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
:Well, I have seen some, such as the infamous shiny Rayquaza. I believe that these people are just like you, Tin, they believe that animated sprites are a pain in the neck to look at and they think "Who would want to use such asshole images anyway?" '''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|{{tt|Optimatum♏|Optimus35}}]]</sc>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]12:22 5 Apr 2008'''

I had a shiny Bellosom and Manectric, saw Shiny Aipom, but I migrated the former 2 into Diamond, but my dad literally broke it, so they don't exist anymore, along with all of my miragated and special Pokemon--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]] 12:33, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
:Not the place to be worrying about split milk. Cry, cry and cry again. '''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|{{tt|Optimatum♏|Optimus35}}]]</sc>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]12:41 5 Apr 2008'''

Look at TTE's page, he cried over losing Hot Psycho and Sharking Shiny Scizor that ruined the game!--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]] 12:43, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

== Broken PRNG ==

Is this statement actually true? Is there any kind of proof that can approve this theory? [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 15:24, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Yes, it is true. Did you not see the link I included? Basically what it means is that if you restart the game (power off/on, not restart save) and move the same, you will encounter the same pokemon. If you really need more proof, I can get tsanth in here, and he can tell you so much about it that you'll wonder why you ever thought you knew Pokémon at all. Really though, just read the article- it says all you need to understand it. [[User:TheCakeIsALie|NonaSuomi]] 19:37, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

OK. Thanks for clearing me up. Just another question though: is this some sort of bug or glitch or is it a decision that the developers came to to make things this way? [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 10:30, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Well it's impossibly to know either way unless somebody asks, but given that every other game to date (including Diamond and Pearl) use proper seeding methods, I'd say it's safe to assume that they screwed up on it. [[User:TheCakeIsALie|NonaSuomi]] 13:22, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

== Was this mentioned ==

In the mixing records room the panel are the same color as the first generation games did anyone mentioned that?--[[User:Pokéboy93|Pokéboy93]] 01:11, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

== Gameplay changes ==
Unlike in Ruby and Sapphire one cannot trade non-native species into the game until the Pokédex is upgraded. At least in my experience. the game refuses to let me trade a totodile and Pidgy into the game in oldale town. I was able to do this in Ruby but not Emerald. -- [[User:D558|D558]] 05:22, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

== um... ==

I know u ppl usually want this kinda questions on teh forums, but I have no idea how to use them so please forgive me for posting it here, but I've heard something about a Pokémon Emerald remake. And hints like the new Pokéball pattern on the [[Poké Center]] floor being light green and every hoenn legendary has been available in someway as of Generation IV with the exception of {{p|Latios}} and {{p|Latias}} and they would appear if a emerald remake were made. is this true?--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 04:22, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
:It hasn't been confirmed and I sincerely doubt it. I strongly encourage you to learn to use the forums. They aren't that hard, and they can be a lot of fun. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 04:49, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

ok, I'll see. thank you--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 05:43, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

== Missing Pokémon? ==

All of this is incorect i have encountered and caught all this pokemon in emerald without trading.So whats it about?--[[User:Solidstate|Solid!]] 12:06, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
:I highly doubt that. They are the [[version exclusive]] Pokémon for Emerald, just renamed as "missing Pokémon" because instead of being exclusive to that game (they are found in Ruby and Sapphire), they are missing from the game. Only Surskit can be caught in Emerald, after records have been mixed with one of the other games. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 12:08, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

== Missing Sprites ==
Kind of noticed lately, a lot of the Pokemon Emerald shiny sprites are missing. Not a problem, just kind of noticed. =C [[User:ShinyGlaceon|ShinyGlaceon]] 13:49, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
:We've noticed. They're kind of a pain to rip, it seems. And they're pretty hard to find. Bear with us here. ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 16:23, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

== Can't read my game ==

Ok, I need help here. When I insert my Emerald into Slot 2 of my DS, one of four things happens: 1) my DS correctly interprets it as a GBA game but fails to interpret what game it is, 2) my DS can't read the game and says there is no GBA game, 3) my DS starts the game until the title screen, at which point it freezes, or 4) my DS interprets it as a DS Option Pak. I HAVE used a GameShark on it. Have I destroyed the game cart or something? [[User:Pokered4000|Pokered4000]] 03:50, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
:Quite probably. You'd probably get a better response for this if you ask in the Bulbagarden forums. Click the link on the sidebar and navigate to the appropriate forum. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:26, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
::I would post on the forums, but the forums won't accept my login.

== What's the fastest repeatable way to earn Pokedollars here? ==

On my VisualBoy Advance, I'd like to figure out how I can keep earning Pokedollars repeatedly? Since I have a speed-up button, the pace shouldn't be a problem.

Also, that money-making activity would be a nice tidbit to add to the article. Thanks. --[[User:Tanaka Shimoya|Tanaka Shimoya]] 11:21, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
Beat the elite 4 with an amulet coin? Using VBA, you may as well just go the whole hog and use an action replay code. [[User:Mattrules161|Mattrules161]] 20:26, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Pokémon Emerald Version

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Talk:Mewtwo (Pokémon)

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Mattrules161: /* Incorrect Trivia */

Nice touch with the line about it not evolving given all the speculation about Lucario. ([[User:Argy|Argy]])

These pages deal with known data, not random speculation. On top of that, there is no history of any legendary Pokemon evolving.
--[[User:Jshadias|Jshadias]] 00:14, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)

That was what I was referring to- the random, unfounded speculation going on at various forums. Before I saw that all non-evolving Pokemon had that line, I thought it was a nice touch to emphasize reality. ([[User:Argy|Argy]])

Wait a minute... what was the second movie Mewtwo was the subject in? (Given Mewtwo Strikes Back is the first) If there was one before it, is there a reason it isn't listed in the movie section? -OmegaPlatinum

:[[Mewtwo Returns]]. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] [[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]] 12:24, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

::And the only reason why it wasn't listed in the movie section was because it really wasn't a movie. It was a TV special under the same lines of [[Raikou: The Legend Of Thunder]]. 4Kids thought that they could change the wording and certain dialogue so it WOULD seem like an ACTUAL movie even though it really wasn't.

::[[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 23:55, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
==only one==
is there only one mewtwo or is there more?
:One per game. One in the anime. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 09:29, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

In the Anime, yes there WAS only one, but it was hinted that they could have made many more of his species had he not destroyed their lab (Random scientist: Very Good, Excellent! Let's work on Mewthree!
-Pokemon the first movie). And as for the games, yes, they made it quite clear in the games that Mewtwo is unique and one of a kind (the stadium games and the Mystery dungeon series don't count [and by stadium games, I mean just Pokemon Stadium ZERO (the unreleased japanese version), Pokemon Stadium, and Pokemon Stadium 2. I consider Colosseum/XD/Battle Revolution to be a different series from Stadium.].)

[[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 23:55, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

But in FireRed and LeafGreen, they never mentioned about making another Mew clone. [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 14:45, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Well, they never had it appear in Gold/Silver, they never had it appear in the Colosseum games, they never even had it appear in the Ranger games. the only games it appeared in besides Gen I and it's remakes is the Mystery Dungeon series and the Stadium games, which really don't count in regards to the games canon (heck, the Mystery dungeon games don't even take PLACE on the main Pokemon world.). and of course they didn't mention making another mew clone, because Mewtwo blew up the place before they could even record the idea. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 15:38, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

== "Born" or "created" ==

Nevermind, I found them. I was mistaken and Mew did give birth to Mewtwo.--[[User:Ceol|Ceol]] 16:05, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

:No, Mew did not physically give birth to Mewtwo. Mewtwo is a genetically inhanced clone of Mew. The whole concept of "Mew gave birth" is a metaphor for the fact that after a long time of creating clones of Mew that didn't survive the cloning process, the scientists were finally able to create a living clone from Mew's DNA. --'''[[User:InuMimi|いぬ]][[User talk:InuMimi|みみ]]''' 22:02, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
::Well, but a clone once created, must be implanted on a mother's womb to survive and grow. So, mew actually ''gave birth to Mewtwo''. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 23:41, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Mewtwo was never in or near Mew when he was created. He was in his cloning tank until he finally broke it open when he was grown. --'''[[User:InuMimi|いぬ]][[User talk:InuMimi|みみ]]''' 20:31, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
Go and read about cloning in the read world and you'll understand. Don't guide yourself by the anime. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 23:57, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
:I know about cloning in the real world, thank you. But by the anime, Mewtwo was in a tank for the first part of his life and no where else. And because he is a fictional cartoon/video game character, there is no other side to the story, meaning if being implanted wasn't shown or mentioned, then it didn't happen. People can make up theories of what they assume is truth but assuming is not truth and fictional characters don't have alternative sides because they are not real. And even if Mew "gave birth", how did the scientists get their hands on a Mew to implant Mewtwo? It was only mentioned that they found a fossilized eyebrow of a Mew. --'''[[User:InuMimi|いぬ]][[User talk:InuMimi|みみ]]''' 22:44, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
::“Mew gave birth” is only in the games. Things from the show (eyebrow, tank etc.) are not relevant to how the ''games'' do things. [[User:IIMarckus|IIMarckus]] 05:00, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
:::The anime is based off of the games and the anime goes indepth with almost everything in Pokemon. It was never mentioned in the game how Mewtwo was cloned or if he was implanted. "Mew gave birth" is considered a metaphor for the fact that the scientists were finally able to successfully create a clone of Mew. --'''[[User:InuMimi|いぬ]][[User talk:InuMimi|みみ]]''' 15:22, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
::::False. The anime is LOSELY based off the games. Hence the anime's Magnemites and Koffings don't need "partners" of the same specie in order to evolve, Red and Green are named Ash and Gary, and Mewtwo is a clone which wasn't created on Cinnabar Island. {{unsigned|Spideym}}
:::::The anime is based on the games in therms of major events, such as catching Pokémon, battling, encountering some characters, etc., not because of it shows some Pokémon before the time (such as Kecleon or Wynaut) it goes in depth of everything on Pokémon, it means that it is just media where Satoshi Tajiri wants to give an update of what's coming. So, according to the games (and basing on how cloning works on real world), Mewtwo was born from Mew. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 01:06, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
::::::Choose to believe what you want but Mewtwo was cloned in the anime and the games and was not technically born. Mewtwo's Red and Blue entry "It was created by a scientist after years of horrific gene splicing and DNA engineering experiments" meaning it was cloned. It was never stated that Mewtwo was inplanted in Mew and there is no proof of that. The book that said "Mew gave birth" is all you have to go by and it's most likely a metaphor and not a literal statement.--'''[[User:InuMimi|いぬ]][[User talk:InuMimi|みみ]]''' 22:33, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
Cloned and born is the same. There is no clone that grows in a tank. If the anime showed something like that is just because it's children-oriented and some children just don't know how they born. Also I don't think it's important either, this looks like a forum thread. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 04:18, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
:You and I both know that the Pokémon world works differently from our own. So, having a clone grow inside a tank in the Pokémon world is highly possible considering all the other technology that is used. And clones are different from naturally created creatures. They are not created the same way. --'''[[User:InuMimi|いぬ]][[User talk:InuMimi|みみ]]''' 22:34, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
:: To be honest, as much as we say giving birth is a metaphor, etc. At the end of the day, things stated as fact in the anime are NOT considered to be true in the games. In the games, disregarding all evidence from the anime, we are told nothing about Mewtwo's creation other than that it was cloned (I think this first appears in Yellow's dex, but I'm not sure) and that Mew gave birth to it. We also know that these two events are possible to both be true. Additionally, I seem to recall the information about Mew giving birth to Mewtwo being written in someone's log of events - it seems unlikely that they would use metaphors in a log of events. Basically, what I'm trying to say is, based on the evidence exhibited in the games, NOT IN THE ANIME, clearly, Mewtwo was cloned from Mew, and Mew gave birth to Mewtwo.- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Gastly's mama|Gastly's mama]] ([[User talk:Gastly's mama|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Gastly's mama|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''
:::Unless you can prove its a metaphor, its stays. It gave birth. Says so in the game, and last time i checked, this is the game article.[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
::::You make it sound like Mewtwo was conceived. "It was created by a scientist after years of horrific gene splicing and DNA engineering experiments."-Mewtwo's Red/Blue Pokédex entry. Technically by this, Mewtwo was created by a scientist after years of DNA experiments. All of Mewtwo's Pokédex entries except Yellow, Gold, Silver, and Stadium 2; mention something about genetic mutation and engineering. It was never stated that after the scientific genetic engineering, Mewtwo was implanted into Mew. Sure, in the real world, a clone is implanted into a parent, but you and i know that the real world and the Pokémon world can be quite different from each other. And with this being an encyclopedia, you can't just assume something took place because that's what would really happen. Either it was a metaphor refering to the fact that after years of attempting to successfully clone something from Mew, the scientists were finally able to create something (something being born of Mew's DNA), or Nintendo/GameFreak really wanted to confuse people on how Mewtwo was created, in the games anyway. --'''[[User:InuMimi|いぬ]][[User talk:InuMimi|みみ]]''' 01:20, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
:I will find the screenshot. it Literally says "Mew gave Birth TYoday, we called it Mewtwo. Check in fir red, journal on the third floor.[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
:: What I was trying to say was that (in agreement with DCM) since in the games it says that it was both spliced (pokedex entry) and born (pokemon journal), and we know it is possible for both to happen at once, surely the only reasonable conclusion to draw
is that both DID happen? [[User:Gastlys mama|Gastlys mama]] 18:39, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

== Shiny coloration ==

Just stating that the gold may have been a poor excuse for a type of olive green or the such, and they decided to define it more in the coming generations. - [[User:JWhitt|J]][[User_talk:JWhitt|Whitt]] 13:40, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
:Wait, how do you get a shiny Mewtwo in Gold and Silver?[[User:Shadow1337|Shadow1337]] 17:24, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
::I'm not 100% sure but i think that if your Mewtwo has an IV value less than 8 in your blue, red, or yellow game, and you trade him over to your silver, gold, or crystal game, it will become shiny. --'''[[User:InuMimi|いぬ]][[User talk:InuMimi|みみ]]''' 18:55, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

:::What's with this green coloration? I thought it was black. Or is that just the Mewtwo i obtained through a Brainboy cheat device? It looks black on the GBC screen, and on Pokémon stadium 2 in both the stadium and during gameboy mode. [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 02:34, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

::::So can anyone tell me whats with the difference. I'm kind of figuring that somewhere in the extraction process the sprites colors were messed up. [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 19:37, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

==Dodging Balls==
I haven't seen ANYTHING on this page pointing out that Mewtwo would actually dodge Poké Balls in Red, Blue, and Yellow. I think it should be included, since it's the only catchable Pokémon that's ever done so. [[User:Diachronos|Diachronos]] 16:48, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
:The only Pokemon that dodges Poke Balls is the ghost Marowak. Poke Balls thrown at Mewtwo can miss, yes, which is different from "break out without shaking"—but this is the case for any "special" Pokemon in RBY, including Snorlax. [[User:IIMarckus|IIMarckus]] 22:08, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
::A pokemon that has Dug, Flown, etc cant be caught, and I distinctly remember Zapdos pokeballs--[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((Nag at Me!]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Edits))]]
:::Not true. I found a wild {{p|Diglett}} using {{m|Dig}}. I caught it. [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 22:26, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
::::In the original games?--[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((Nag at Me!]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Edits))]]
:::::In the original games, and in fact all games, Dig and Fly make no difference in whether a monster can dodge the ball. It is based solely on whether the encounter is special (legends, Snorlax) or if the player is in the Safari Zone. [[User:IIMarckus|IIMarckus]] 01:44, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
In the original games, there was a very slim chance of Pokémon dodging, see [[Poké Ball#Poké Ball Accuracy|this article]] for details. It's limited to Safari Zone, Snorlax and Legendaries (which would include Mewtwo). ←{'''[[User:Berrymaster|Berrymaster]]|[[User_talk:Berrymaster|Talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Berrymaster|Contrib]]'''}→ 22:39, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
:I'm sure it wasn't that slim. I remember (unless using Master Ball) having to put all legendaries to sleep before the ball would hit them. Snorlax too, but it wasn't exactly difficult to get Snorlax to sleep... [[User:Gastly's mama|Gastly's mama]] 21:01, 20 November 2008 (UTC) [[User:Gastly's Mama|Gastly's Mama]]

== Diet... ==

No one is really quite sure if Mewtwo even eats, so shouldn't something be done about the diet section? We've never really seen Mewtwo eat. [[User:Animine|Animine]] 01:49, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
:Pokémon food's the basic answer for it all. Plus, um, try feeding poffin or Pokéblocks to Mewtwo, it eats those in the games. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:02, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

== Manga... ==

{{spoilers}}
The Mewtwo in Special is actually quite a prominent character, having appeared in the series which starred Red as a main character. While it doesn't make much of an appearance in the RGB saga, it actually makes a difference in the Yellow saga, with Yellow imitating the Psywave attack to supposedly defeat Lance. Even after that, in the FRLG saga, Mewtwo actually becomes part of the crew, having defeated R once, rescued Green's parents, beating the shit out of Deoxys and being the main reason why Red, Blue, Green, Yellow and Silver were turned to stone. So why not have an extra page for it? '''[[User:Optimatum|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]] 09:46, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

:Sounds like a good idea go for it's recurring Pokémon.--[[Santa Claus|'''☆''']][[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチュウ!''']] 00:59, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

== Super Smash Bros Melee ==

Isn't "''Mewtwo is considered to be the poorest character when played at the highest metagame. It is easy to knock off the stage due to its large body and light weight. In addition, Mewtwo is slow, does not have any fast defensive options and also has general problems with some of its other moves. This all leads to Mewtwo's position in the bottom tier.''" an opinion? I thought we are supposed to represent a neutral point of view? In my opinion Mewtwo actually ''isn't'' that bad. [[User:Firestorm|--Fire]][[User talk:Firestorm|storm]] 03:09, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
:What you're saying is a personal opinion. What you've quoted is actually considered to be true by a lot of people, plus it's almost all true anyway - Mewtwo is slower than Ganondorf, Has NO offensive moves (besides Shadow Ball, which takes forever to charge, and then loses it if you get hit in the middle of charging), and falls about as fast as Metal Mario. Personally, I remember him being a heavyweight, but...yea. He pretty much sucked all by himself Me and my fellow torchics agree on this - [[User:Sk8torchic|Sk8torchic]]. 21:51, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
::Pretty much everything metagame is an opinion, so.... eh. If it was me, I'd delete it, though. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 08:12, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
Everything that's been said is true, but Firestorm does have a point. The text seems opinionated. [[User:Animine|EcksAcksisAnimine]] 22:03, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

== Game Bio ==

So...how do we know that Cerulean Cave collapsed, and all that other stuff afterwards? - ''unsigned comment from {{u|Psigon}} ([[User talk:Psigon|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Psigon|contribs]]) ''
:Because of the events that occurred in Gen II, three years after Gen I. And please, sign your comments on talk pages. It makes it easier for everyone :D — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 06:49, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

== Similarity to Giegue/Giygas ==

Is it worth mentioning that Mewtwo has a similar appearance to Giygas [http://earthbound.wikia.com/wiki/Giygas] from the Mother series' form in the original Mother? Obviously the whole "resembles Freeza from Dragon Ball Z" thing is way too out of whack, but both Mewtwo and Giygas have various similarities, including the tails, the ears, the similar bad tempers, the white bodies and the fact that the team that worked on the Mother series also worked on the Pokémon series.--[[User:Jake|Jake]] 16:56, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
:Do we have any... real art of Giygas that actually shows him as a whole being? That's tiny art at best, and at that size, Gold looks like Red. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 17:13, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
::Real art, no and I will admit that it having "similar ears" is a bit sketchy, but it's confirmed to have a tail in the game via dialogue. The tail is fairly visible if you mainly look at the Mewtwo looking thing in the middle and not the orb/shield thing around it.--[[User:Jake|Jake]] 14:24, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

== false info? ==

The article says mewtwo is the first pokemon to use a genII move, but i think that's false.

for one thing I'm pretty sure Mewtwo doesn't use that spherical attack until his battle with mew.

From how Mewtwo acts using psychic in Stadium, and given that psychic can be in a spherical form it might just be psychic he's using.

Donphan uses Rollout at the opening battle. [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 19:37, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

:Well how are you so sure Donphan is using Rollout? We have just as much evidence that it uses Rollout as Mewtwo's using Shadow Ball: on the basis that it looks like that traditional attack. Also, SSBM Mewtwo, who is obviously based on the movie Mewtwo, has Shadow Ball as an attack. I will give you that Donphan most likely displayed the first Gen II move but Mewtwo most likely used Shadow Ball. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 21:13, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

::Well it does get hard to tell when the creators can't keep a conform appearance to moves. Psychic has been used as balls of energy, common levelitation of the opponent then throwing the opponent. I think its even been used as a force field.

::I'm pretty sure Donphan takes the goal for first II gen move used. If i remember the beginning of the movie right, mewtwo mostly just used shock wave like attacks and levitation. [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 21:19, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Levitation. That's how Psychic is shown in the anime. Mewtwo definitely used Shadow Ball. But Donphan did technically use Rollout earlier in the movie. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:26, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

::::In DP102 they had psychic used as balls in combination with something if i remember. Either way we should remove the Trivia right? Someone else will have to do it, i for some reason keep getting logged out and getting the view source screen. [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 21:34, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

:::::It was with Will-O-Wisp. And Psychic is used to move things, keep things from moving, and stuff like that. And don't take it out. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 21:39, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Its Obvious that Donphan used Rollout before Mewtwo got into it with mew. Donphan's article even mentions it used rollout in the movie [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 21:42, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

:And now you're jumping around.... but we need more than just your opinion on it before we do anything. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 21:45, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
Its not my oppinion, even TTE said Donphan used Rollout earlier in the movie. A mod and a article both says that a move was used by donphan who does it before mewtwo so the Trivia is false. [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 21:49, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
::Well then take it out. Don't just sit there talking about taking it out. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 21:52, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
I did remove it, and as i said before Editing is difficult at the moment with the system going buggy with timeouts, session loss data and stuff. [[User:Yami Takashi|Yami]] 21:54, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

== Three 'segments'? ==

What are the segments that the Trivia talks about? -[[User:Smeargle|Smeargle]] 12:08, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

:Removed... '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 13:58, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

== Ruby/Sapphire, FireRed/LeafGreen Sprites ==

The Ruby and Sapphire sprite for Mewtwo is the same as the FireRed and LeafGreen sprite, so is there a reason to why [[Image:Spr 3f 150.png]] and it's Shiny counterpart do not have Sprites uploaded?
If it's because they are the same, then why hasn't the Sprite Template for Mewtwo been edited so it just shows the same image for Ruby & Sapphire as for FireRed & LeafGreen? Just a thought... [[User:ASecondOpinion1501|ASecondOpinion1501]] 15:55, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
:If they are ''exactly'' the same then the page on the archives needs to be redirected to the RS sprite, rather than the same sprite being uploaded again. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 18:25, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
::Thank you for replying to me quickly. How does one redirect an Archive Page to another one because all it does is ask me to upload a fresh image? Apologies for the possible n00bish sound to this. Thanks - [[User:ASecondOpinion1501|ASecondOpinion1501]] 19:27, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
:::All done :D thanks.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 20:46, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

== Interwiki ==

I've just done the interwiki from Italian to English, why doesn't the software read the interwiki from Italian to English? The Italian version is: http://www.pcentral.eu/wiki/Mewtwo {{unsigned|Abcd}}
:Pcentral wiki is not a member of the [[Encyclopaediae Pokémonis]]. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:24, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

== HGSS ==

The standard sprite: 150.png, is different from the sprite in the sprite box for HGSS. Which one is correct? [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 00:41, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
:whats different, aside from the animation? -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 00:51, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
::What animation? Just, which one is used in HGSS? [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 00:57, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
:::now youre genuinely confusing me. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 00:59, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
::::The sprites are different for 150.png and the uploaded HGSS sprite. Which one is the ''real'', used in HGSS, sprite? Or is it just my stupid Internet Explorer? [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 01:01, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::most likely your stupid IE, but in the same vein, they should still appear the same, im going to look into this. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 01:02, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
::::::Looks like the animated version doesn't use the stationary sprite for the first frame, so it appears different. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 01:05, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

== Saybleye ==

Do you you think that this article should mention is the trivia that the fire+leaf mewtwo can't hurt saybleye? I know it is pretty irrelevent, but if I would have known that, then I would have another master ball. as a note, spirtitomb is also immune, but he is in gen. 4 {{unsigned|The snargret guy}}
:Eh. It might be. What are its moves when it's found? Psychic, Mist, Safeguard, and Recover? It's been so long since I caught one. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 13:42, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
swift, recover, phychic and something else, it's only damaging attacks are swift and psychic ([[User:The snargret guy|The snargret guy]] 23:46, 25 January 2010 (UTC))
:Add it if you want, then. You might need another opinion though, because I agree, it is minor. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 00:52, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
::I don't think it's something worth mentioning. The Pokémon are in mutually exclusive games. If you could get Sableye or Spiritomb in FRLG without trading then it would be borderline still, but it's a no. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 06:18, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
@ The snargret guy, it's moveset in FR/LG is Swift, Safeguard, Psychic and Recover. Ok?
([[User:HexagonBlastoise|HexagonBlastoise]] 14:07, 5 May 2010 (UTC))

== Trivia==

In Pokemon HG and SS Mewtwo's battle song is a remix of Pokemon Diamond and Pearl's wild battle song. -[[User:Pkmn master|Pkmn master]] 11:35:39, 13 Febuary 2010
:Uh.. no it's not. It's battle song is the same as any other Wild Pokémon in Kanto.--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 16:39, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

== Amber/Movie Content ==

I don't think the whole Amber/"Mewtwo Returns" stuff should be mentioned here. That part has nothing to do with the games and it was added to the story of the first movie much later. Maybe the whole movie content shouldn't be mentioned. I think that belongs to the page [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Mewtwo_(anime) Mewtwo (anime)] only. {{unsigned|Aicona}}
:A lot of what we get for the behavior sections comes straight from the anime or manga. Barely any of it is explained in the games for any Pokémon. The only reason Amber is mentioned for Mewtwo is because her loss is part of what psychologically changed his way of thinking. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 21:34, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

== Trivia Too Long ==
I think the trivia on Mewtwo's page is way too long, and could really use a trim-down. Especially things that are not unique to Mewtwo, like noting that it and Rayquaza are the only Pokémon with their base stat total not to have signature moves. I'd be willing to go in and clean this up, along with trivia sections on the rest of the species pages, if the admins would like me to. --[[User:Phantomjunkie|Phantom]][[User talk:Phantomjunkie|Junkie]] 07:11, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

== Nocturnal? ==

At the end of Mewtwo Returns, it was stated that Mewtwo had chosen to roam freely at night. Being the only one, this would make its species nocturnal. Should this be added to the behavior section? --'''[[User:EpicShadow|Epic]][[User talk:EpicShadow|Shadow]]''' 03:58, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
:Could be he just wanted to remain inconspicuous. [[Typhlosion|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon|★]] [[User_talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]] 03:59, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
:: Ihave no doubt that was the reason. But even with a reason it still makes him nocturnal. Most nocturnal creatures are nocturnal because they don't want to be found by things that can harm them just like humans could harm Mewtwo.--'''[[User:EpicShadow|Epic]][[User talk:EpicShadow|Shadow]]''' 04:04, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
:::Even still. That's the anime Mewtwo. Not all Mewtwo in general. [[Typhlosion|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon|★]] [[User_talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]] 04:09, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
::::The games Pokédex entries refers to Mewtwo as "it", meaning only one just like the anime and manga. The fact that you can cpture more than one is a paradox that is traditionaly ignored.--'''[[User:EpicShadow|Epic]][[User talk:EpicShadow|Shadow]]''' 04:17, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::Well the anime and the games are different. [[Typhlosion|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon|★]] [[User_talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]] 04:24, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::: Like I said the Mewtwo in the games are a PARADOX, meening they technicaly should not be there. I would also like to point out that the article refers to Mewtwo as it as well.--'''[[User:EpicShadow|Epic]][[User talk:EpicShadow|Shadow]]''' 04:36, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Yes, the article refers to Mewtwo as it. That's because in all canons there is only one of them. It doesn't mean that it is the same one in all the canons. What applies to anime Mewtwo does not necessarliy apply to Adventures manga Mewtwo or game Mewtwo. Unless Mewtwo was developed by Fuji alongside a child, in solitary confinement by Blaine and born by Mew all at the same time. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 04:43, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Even so, I think it is still notable. Could we still put it in if we clearly stated that it was an instance in the anime only? All we would have to do is stick "In the anime" at the begining.--'''[[User:EpicShadow|Epic]][[User talk:EpicShadow|Shadow]]''' 15:04, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

== Name Origin ==

How could have Mewtwo's name come from Mew when Mew was added in at the last moment of Red and Green's development? [[User:Metalmallow|metalmallow]] 09:49, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
:The Pokémon design process is complex and it's entirely possible that Mew or Mewtwo could have come first and one's name could or could not be derived from the other —[[User:Lord mada|Mada-sama]] ([[User talk:Lord mada|Talk to me!]])— 10:36, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

== Mewtwo Rumor ==

I've heard of a rumor before that if you try to *ahem* "catch" Mewtwo in a regular Pokeball, all of the Pokeballs in your bag will break. Anyone else on the subject?
 [[User:Pgj1997|Pgj1997]]
:It's a lie. There are users here who have sucessfully caught Mewtwo in a regular Poké Ball. Also, please don't put a linebreak before your signature. A space is fine. Thanks. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 08:10, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

== Incorrect Trivia ==

Mewtwo has not got the highest base stat total of all psychic-type pokemon as arceus with a plate has 720.[[User:Mattrules161|Mattrules161]] 15:10, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
:I think the trivia entry was supposed to mean he has the highest base stat total of all natural psychic-type pokémon. Arceus doesn't quite count since it needs a psychic plate to even become psychic type, and is by default a normal type. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 14:45, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Mewtwo (Pokémon)

2011-04-21T14:34:22Z

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Talk:Explosion (move)

2011-04-16T14:10:05Z

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Should we add the fact that only two Pokémon can get STAB from this move - Lickilicky and Smeargle? (I think so, anyway.) {{ani|281}}[[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Sandbox|☆]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Favorites|♥]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]][http://freewebs.com/thepixelcafe δ]{{MS|281|Kirlia}} 03:17, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
*So you're implying that due to [[STAB]], Explosion will do 1000 damage, right? [[User:ht14|ht14]] 22:25, April 11, 2008 (GMT)
**No, the [[STAB]] would make it 750, not 1000, as the [[STAB]] multiplier is 1.5x not 2x.--[[User:Wikifixer|Wikifixer]] 15:45, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
***The [[STAB]] boosts the Base Power from 250 to 375, Silk Scarf further boosts it to 412.5, and i don't know how that translates into actual battle damage, but 412.5 BP sounds brill to me. Though a Blaze/Overgrowth Fire/Grass Type with Overheat/Leaf Storm and a Charcoal/Miracle Seed does more I think... like 600+ or something. [[user:494alex]] 23:19, May 13th, 2009 (GMT)
****I really think what keeps the record is Sunshine+STAB+Flash Fire+Choice Specs(+Heatran's Sp. Atk)+Overheat keeps the record. BP with all those multipliers is 1.5*1.5*1.5*1.5*140=708.75, and combined with Heatran, it's really terrible.

== Focus Sash ==

Does the [[Focus Sash]] save a Pokémon from fainting when it uses Explosion? [[User:Zesty Cactus|Zesty Cactus]] 04:50, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
:Yes of course it does. Stop posting this on every page. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:44, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
::Are you sure? I'm pretty sure he means the user of explosion and that wouldnt make much sense to me. [[User:Dexington|Dexington]] 22:00, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Focus Sash does not prevent it from fainting...Forretress killed Abra along with itself...--[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 22:14, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
::::Dexington's right, I meant "does it protect the USER of Explosion", I guess I should have made that clearer. Thanks guys.[[User:Zesty Cactus|Zesty Cactus]] 02:27, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

== Both trainers on their last Pokemon ==

If both trainers are on their last pokemon, and one uses Explosion/Selfdestruct, knocking the other out, who wins? In the following situations:
*In-game, the player's last pokemon uses Explosion/Self destruct and knocks out a wild pokemon.
*In-game, the player's last pokemon uses Explosion/Selfdestruct and knocks out an NPC trainer's last pokemon.
*In-game, a wild pokemon uses Explosion/Selfdestruct and knocks out the player's last pokemon.
*In-game, an NPC trainer's last pokemon uses Explosion/Selfdestruct and knocks out the player's last pokemon.
*Over the GTS/link cable, one player's last pokemon uses Explosion/Selfdestruct and knocks out the other player's last pokemon.
{{unsigned|The Void}}
:*Both die, no EXP given (unless the EXP share is on a different Pokémon)
:*Both die, it counts as the player losing the battle and blacks out
:*Both die, the player blacks out
:*Both die, it counts as the player losing the battle and blacks out
:*I haven't tried this, but I imagine it's a tie game
:—'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:12, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

== Stunky/Skuntank ==

Actually, the part about Stunky and Skuntank exploding - which was recently removed - is true. It happened to me, at least. "Skuntank would like to join your team. <No> Skuntank exploded. Skuntank went away."
I think it's like that for Pokémon with the Aftermath ability. Needs confirmation, though. [[User:FireMeowth|FireMeowth]] 20:10, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

== Life Orb ==

Article states that "This attack can achieve up to 412.5 Base Power if powered up with Lickilicky's STAB and a Silk Scarf." Silk Scarf only boosts by 20% in Generation IV, as I recall. Does Life Orb (30% boost) not affect the power of Explosion because of the inability to remove HP? --[[User:Zukiedo|Zukiedo]] ''([[User talk:Zukiedo|Talk]])'' 05:12, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
:I think it does. If not, there's still Choice Band. --[[User:PLA|PLA]] 11:35, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

== Abilities ==

If an ability like Pure Power were Skill Swapped onto a Lickilicky holding a Silk Scarf, surely it would do even more damage? And would this be worth adding to the section about the maximum possible damage? [[User:Mattachu|Mattachu]] 15:41:45, 04 May 2010 (UTC)
:I don't think so, since that bit is more about move modifiers than ATK modifiers. Explosion would do even more damage with +6 ATK and -6 foe DEF, but that doesn't seem very noteworthy to me. Even in terms of most damage possible for any move (which would be more interesting), I think a calculation on Rollout still has the trophy anyway. --[[User:PLA|PLA]] 16:25, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
::Actually, I think the prize goes to Water Spout under Rain used by a Water-type with Adaptability on a Ground/Rock Pokémon. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:46, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

==Shedinja==

If Explosion was hacked onto a Shedinja, would it knock it out? [[User:Borg184|Borg184]] 04:36, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
:Explosion sets the user's HP to 0, then does damage. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:20, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

==Max Damage==

I used Pokemon.marriland's calculator with a lv100 golem against a lv100 chansey:
That attack will do between 2337 and 2749 damage!{{unsigned|Ashclaw}}
:That's nowhere near the maximum damage this move can do. The maximum is 19476 damage. That's when it's used by a level 100 {{p|Lickilicky}} with an Attack IV of 31, 252 Attack EVs, a nature beneficial to Attack, holding a [[Silk Scarf]] uses Explosion on a level 1 {{p|Chansey}} with a Defense IV of 0 and a nature that lowers Defense hits for a critical hit the with the highest random number generated. However, we won't be mentioning it in the article. The maximum damage award goes to {{m|Rollout}}. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 08:50, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

== Sturdy ==

With sturdy allowing the pokemon to survive a potential k-o, does this move fail, allow the user to survive or still faint the user if they have sturdy? [[User:Mattrules161|Mattrules161]] 14:10, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Crush Claw (move)

2011-04-15T14:48:18Z

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== Signature Move? ==
Should it be added that in Gen III this was Zangoose's signature move, since he was the only one to learn it via level-up? Or does it not count since it could be passed on via egg move to other Pokémon? [[User:Phantomjunkie|Phantom]]♫[[User talk:Phantomjunkie|Junkie]] 14:03, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

== Egg Move Fathers ==

In the Gen.3 learnset, Cyndaquil has both the Swinub and Torchic lines included, but neither are shown as able to learn it. Do those Pokémon need adding or removing from fathers? [[User:Mattrules161|Mattrules161]] 14:48, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Generation V

2010-04-10T12:08:56Z

Mattrules161: /* Possible trivia? */ new section

{{forums notice|March 31, 2011}}

==Any References?==
With the impending release of [[Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver]] in America, can someone keep an eye out for any in-game references to Gen. V? Much appreciated. [[User:The Jigglypuff Ninja|The Jigglypuff Ninja]] 01:04, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
:I doubt there are any references to Gen V in HGSS. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 01:09, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
::And I ''highly'' doubt that NoA would change the script to add such references in. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 01:09, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Any references will probably be in the new Ranger game. Although the Lock Capsule is probably related to something in Generation V.--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 01:11, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
::::It's a Gen IV event item. Likely gonna be for a Gen IV event. Think: what hasn't been released yet? Could be Celebi... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:04, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::At the risk of dragging this out too far (this is quickly becoming something that'd fit on the forums), hackers would have found a Celebi Event in the coding, but no one has. Add in that PokeBeach reports that it seems to have similar transfer data as the Manaphy Egg, and it seems like it's supposed to be transferred out of HGSS into a new game... but I digress. We have no proof either way.--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 05:03, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::The question is... how would it be obtained in the first place? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:40, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

==Jumping the Gun a bit?==
Are you guys sure we aren't looking into this a bit too far? All we have for clues are that they announced a new game and a new *something*. Not to mention it says it's gonna be new on the DS. What's to be sure of all of that? For all we know, the new game could be MindCrystal, the silhouette could be a new Forme like the last 5 that were announced. The new game could be a wii sequel to Pokemon XD:Gale of Darkness. If we can't even have Pokemon evolved editing pages when they're in the titles of episodes, why can we just up and announce a new generation? I mean, Pokebeach even said the silhouette isn't Z, what makes anyone certain it's Generation V?[[User:SLE_aman|SLE_]][[User:SLE_aman/talk|aman]] 11:53, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
:What does Pokebeach have to do with anything? We know this is Gen V because Masuda SAID it is a new Pokémon. Nothing in this article says that this Pokémon is Z. Because we don't know that. All we know is that it is a new Pokémon. To think otherwise... well, you're in denial big time. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 12:14, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
::The original announcement talked about the popularity of Diamond and Pearl before saying this game will be set in a new region with new Pokémon. What more evidence do you need? --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 12:36, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

:::Well, technically, the RPG announcement never explicitly said it would be main series. Even though Generation V Pokémon were hinted, it was never explicitly said that it was the full-fledged generation. It also never explicitly said it would be a pair, either. There are RPGs other than the main series, and they could use a side-series RPG to give Generation V-based cameos to increase anticipation for the full-fledged generation to come at a later date (much like Mystery Dungeon 1 did). Recent announcements pretty much excludes the possibility of it being a Ranger 4, but it's still possible that it could be a Mystery Dungeon 5 or something completely different than anything we've seen before. My [[$1|2¢]]: Odds are the TBA 2010 thing is not for the full-fledged Generation V. Especially if the RPG announcement turns out to be for a single. They've faked us out before, and even if the silhouette does turn out legitimate, it's probably still too early to be thinking full-fledged Generation V. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 18:19, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

::::Actually, I've seen a subb'ed version. Masuda specifically said "We're working on a new generation of pokémon" --[[User:Camzoman]]
::::Yeah. And nowhere in that did it explicitly say that was the TBA 2010 project. They can be working on a new generation of Pokémon, yet still announce and release side games relating mainly to the previous generation. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 19:34, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::Camzoman, where exactly did you see this subbed version? I did not hear Masuda mention a "new generation" anywhere in the video - what he said was "we're developing a brand-new work for Pokemon." However, I don't think there's any denying at this point that it is indeed the new generation. The [http://www.corocoro.tv/pokerelease/index.html Corocoro site] doesn't seem to be implying that this is a side game (not that Game Freak makes side games to begin with). It's a new version(s), with a new setting, new Pokemon, new features... sounds like a new generation to me. :/ [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 19:54, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::Japanese doesn't have a plural so the "he only said one" argument doesn't hold. [[n:New Pokémon RPG announced|Just look at the information we have]]. It's obviously Generation V. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 12:12, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
::::Anyway, the CoroCoro scans for Zoroark fit the silhouette from Pokémon Sunday.--[[User:Crazylegs24]]

== Why is this page protected? ==
Why is this page protected? --[[User:?????|Any]] [[User talk:?????|Questions]][[User:?????|?????]] 18:34, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
:Think about it.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 18:37, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
::<nowiki>*</nowiki>cough*Speculation*cough* [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 18:41, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Because someone is 100% likely going to put what they think the new Pokémon is, probably saying it's Mightyena's evolution or something, if it isn't protected. That is speculation, something that isn't allowed here in the mainspace. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 22:21, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
::::It is not a good sign when a question like this needs to be asked.--[[user:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] We are the Void 22:43, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::That against us or against the users who'd make crappy speculative edits? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:22, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::It's against users who don't realise why it should be protected...--[[user:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] We lie in wait...... 14:31, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::...same thing? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:29, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Arguable.--[[user:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] We lie in wait...... 13:13, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::Would it not be better to make this page "semi-protected" so that only established users can edit? There are plenty of established users who are not administrators, whom I'm sure would want to contribute to such a monumental article. [[User:Kidburla|Kidburla]] 09:55, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
:That wouldn't stop speculation from incurring. If you have any confirmed evidence, ask for it here.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 10:12, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

== Generation V Pokémon Infobox, anyone? ==

I know you'll probably all find this pointless, but I decided to throw together a [[Template:PokémonInfoboxGenV|temporary infobox]] to use for the Generation V Pokémon articles. It's basically a stripped-down version of the regular infobox that leaves out all the fields for any technical stuff (Egg groups, EXP yield, Gender ratios, etc.) that's unlikely to be revealed until ''Pokémon V'' comes out later this year. I also created a [[User:Quagbert/Z (Pokémon)|user-subpage for the silhouetted mystery Pokémon]] that uses a [[Template:PokémonInfoboxGenVNoncat|non-categorizing version]] of this template.

''Thanks to {{u|PsychicRider}} for making me aware of the original non-categorizing Pokémon infobox.'' [[User:Quagbert|Quagbert]] 00:49, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

==Masamitsu Hidaka==

Should [[Masamitsu Hidaka]] be mentioned since that interview kind of confirmed Generation V? --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 05:50, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

== Unlink ==

Can somebody please unlink "Generation V Pokémon"? It's a redlink right now. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 13:52, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

== This just in! ==

Serebii.net just confirmed the first two Fifth Generation Pokémon! Go check it out! :) --[[User:Dialgafan1|Dialgafan1]] 14:21, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
:Serebii.net didn't. Leaked scans did. Also, the first one was already revealed. The second one was revealed to be before it in their evolutionary line. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 14:22, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
::I think yu're probably going to need to find this information from another source. It seems like the users here have some sort of vendetta against Serebii.--[[User:Skaisdead|Skaisdead]] 14:29, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
:::It is officially confirmed. It was from a different source. It was from scans. You can see bulbanews's draft. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 14:31, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
::::We don't have any vendetta against Serebii. He just isn't the source in this case - CoroCoro is. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 15:01, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Either way, it's confirmed right? I'd love to update the page, but it's locked. *ahem*
''[[User:Chosen|Chosen]] of [[User talk:Chosen|Mana]]'' [[User:Chosen|-]] 15:15, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

[[File:CoroCoro March 1.jpg|thumb]]

Here's the picture! --[[User:Dialgafan1|Dialgafan1]] 15:19, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Alright, these two Pokémon have been offically confirmed by the leaked CoroCoro scans, but apparently it's still considered too early to put up the Bulbapedia articles for them. Is there some additional form of conformation that we're waiting for?

Anyway, I already have {{p|Zorua}} and {{p|Zoroark}} in my userspace ready to be moved to the main space when we're finally allowed to do so. [[User:Quagbert|Quagbert]] 17:07, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
:It's probably due to lack of information. I assume that when its ability/abilities and/or base stats are revealed it will be moved. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 17:16, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
::IIRC, none of that sort of information (especially base stats) was revealed for the Generation IV Pokémon until the actual release of Diamond/Pearl, or shortly before, though we still had mainspace articles for them anyway. This means it'd be months before we move Zorua/Zoroark into the mainspace. [[User:Quagbert|Quagbert]] 17:31, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Actually, according to serebii, they're supposed to be revealed next month. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 18:45, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

== Related Pokémon ==

On the page, it says that it has noteable links with the Riolu and Poochyena families. If it's definitely pure dark type then just ignore this, but couldn't it be an alternative to the Vulpix family? --[[User:Herachu|Herachu]] 22:07, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
: I agree. --[[User:Kimori-Hinoarashi|i herd u liek Treakos?]] 00:10, 12 February 2010 (UTC) [[User:Kimori-Hinoarashi|Kimori-]][[User talk:Kimori-Hinoarashi|Hinoarashi]]

== New Pokémon template ==

Based partly on the {{template|DP episode}} template, I've decided to make a [[Template:NewPokémon|new Pokémon template]] to use the next time a new Pokémon is revealed. The code would go like this:
<pre>
{{subst:NewPokémon|main|Jp. Katakana name|Romanized Jp. name|
typen= (number of types) |
type1= (first type) |
type2= (second type) |
pron= (name's pronunciation) |
jspecies= (species in Japanese) |
species= (species, aka "____ Pokémon")
image= (filename of image) |
caption= (caption for said image) |
height-m= (height in meters) |
weight-kg= (weight in kilograms) |
prev= (previous Pokémon's (i.e. pre-evolution) name, Arceus by default) |
prevnum= (previous Pokémon's National Dex #, 493 by default) |
next= (next Pokémon's (i.e. evolved form) name, Bulbasaur by default) |
nextnum= (next Pokémon's National Dex #, 001 by default) |
}}
</pre>
Those who want to use this template for their own userspace should replace "main" in the top line with "user", so that those user sub-pages aren't categorized with the genuine Pokémon articles in the main space. [[User:Quagbert|Quagbert]] 01:04, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

== Take away part in introduction ==

It says that it is unknown whether the new games will be contemporaneous with any of the other games. I beg to differ. Pokemon Sunday officially stated that Zoroark lives in a "New Area". Or is it just saying that it is unknown whether it will be possible to travel to another region? Spenfen
:Contemporaneous means at the same time. Like how RBY and RSE are at the same time, and so is GSC and DPPt. It has nothing to do with location.--[[User:Goukazaru|Gou]] 18:08, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

== Japanese Gen. 5 page ==
I have a good link to a japanese page on the Generation 5 games here: [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/info/game/g100215_03.html].--[[User:Christopher Costello|Christopher Costello]] 01:14, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
:That's kinda where we got all of our information. Pokémon.co.jp and the Japanese Pokémon variety shows. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:41, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

== Interwiki link to Pokéteca ==

Now that there's an article about [[:es:Quinta Generación|Generation V on Pokéteca]], can someone add it the interwiki link to it, please? --[[User:Blaziken257|'''Blaz''']][[User talk:Blaziken257|'''iken''']][[Special:Contributions/Blaziken257|'''257''']] 03:19, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

== Two New Generation V Pokémon Scan !!! ==

Hey guys, I got this '''EPIC''' magazine scan featuring two new evolutions of Delibird and Farfetch'd from Generation V and it seems 100% real. {{unsigned|Adyniz}}
:It's not. Notice how I protected the hell out of those names ''before Zoroark and Zorua were revealed''. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:08, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
::Does that mean this scan is a fake one? --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 07:11, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
:::The screenshot is obviously fake if you couldn't tell. That should have given it away easily. So yes, it is fake. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jel]][[User Talk:Jello|lo]] 07:29, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
::::Lol, man I am dumb.
::::'''Source''': http://www.pokemondarkay.net/{{unsigned|Adyniz}}
:::::Looks pretty real. [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 11:00, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::Well it may look real but I've seen things in my days done in Photoshop that looked very real. Can someone translate or is there even any legit source? I don't read Spanish nor Japanese. [[User:.insomniac.|inso]]m[[User_talk:.insomniac.|niac]] 11:05, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Since it's already been confirmed as fake, please take further discussion regarding the scan to the {{tt|forums|Not the Bulbapedia forum.}}. Thanks, - [[User:Kogoro|'''<sc>Kogoro</sc>''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<sc>Talk to me</sc>''']] - 11:08, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

== [[Nintendo 3DS]] ==

It's very likely that these new games will be on the 3DS, so can someone remove the statement saying that the games ''will'' be released on the regular DS?--'''[[User:Immewnity|''immewnity'']][[User talk:Immewnity|the]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|mew]]''' 00:22, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
:[[Generation II]] ahoy. The press release said DS. Not 3DS. 3DS comes out NEXT YEAR. These come out THIS YEAR. Nintendo's not ''stupid''. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:54, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
::It could be released before Christmas in Japan so there is the potential for the game to be on 3DS. But that's purely guesswork at the moment and it could still be a DS game even if the 3DS is implemented so we go with the only source on the matter - the original announcement which said it will be on the DS. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 11:27, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
:::Or, as in Generation II, the games could be programmed with 3DS enhancements, yet still be playable on the DS. Nonetheless, until something official states that they will utilize the 3DS, any mention of it is speculation at best. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 14:23, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

== Current Length ==

The days have weird numbers, can an administrator fix them? Thanks. [[User:Dialgafan1|Dialgafan1]] 21:23, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
:They're automatically calculated by the template... —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 06:38, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

== Possible trivia? ==

If they remake Generation 3, could this be the first time where all regions are on the same system?--[[User:Mattrules161|Mattrules161]] 12:08, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Snowpoint City

2010-02-27T21:08:11Z

Mattrules161: /* More diamond dust */

What're the other predetermined days for special weather (if there's something else in different areas)? [[Image:Ani164MS.gif]][[User:Shiny Noctowl|S<big>h</big>i<big>n</big>y]] [[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|<big>N</big>o<big>c</big>t<big>o</big>w<big>l</big>]]  13:16, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
:Well....I know today, and also April 22nd 2007 had Diamond Dust.....--'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 13:21, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
::I once got rain on Route 213 for a day. I wonder if that's something special. And I wonder if it's predetermined for a specific day of a specific month of a specific year, or if EVERY January 12 this happens... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 22:44, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Hmm...I'd like to know, is there a list of all the trendy sayings? [[User:CrimsonCerberus|CrimsonCerberus]] 01:55, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

==April 22==
How does anyone know that Diamond Dust occurred on April 22, 2007? Who could have possibly made it here in one day.--[[User:HoennMaster|--HoennMaster]] 05:56, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
:Simple. You change the date on the DS.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 06:04, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

== Diamond dust battle effect ==

Anyone know a way to force a battle in an area? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:05, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

== Northernmost ==

It says Snowport city is the most city, however this map is shows Shino is in the south. [http://www.serebii.net/pokearth/] [[User:Random Chaos|Random Chaos]] 10:54, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
: Well they're Obviously wrong, I follow the Japan region map to make me satisfied about the location of the regions.--[[Charizard (Pokémon)|Force]] [[User:Force Fire|''Fire'']] [[User talk:Force Fire|''talk'']] 10:57, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

::You do realize that serebii themselves stated that "Please note that the positioning of the [[Country|{{tt|regions|Should be countries}}]] is not official and was manipulated for space reasons"? Serebii's not passing off that map as official. Odds are you can't go east-southeast from the [[Safra Sea]] in the country of [[Fiore]] to reach the [[Capture Arena]] in the country of [[Almia]]...{{unsigned|Shiningpikablu252}}
:::Don't believe the placement of the regions in Merrick's map. He did such placement just to make it fit with the map's size but it has NOTHING to do with official placement of the regions. In other words, never trust Merrick. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 16:41, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

::::Sorry just trying to help [[User:Random Chaos|Random Chaos]] 15:01, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

==Trendy Sayings==

I've yet to find a full list of these anywhere, and seeing as you get them in this town...I figured it'd be a great addition to Bulbapedia. :) I can and will definitely help listing them, but I'd rather not do any extensive page editing on Wii. [[User:CrimsonCerberus|CrimsonCerberus]] 13:40, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
:I got "CONDUCTIVITY" as mine for today; are they all 1 word/phrase things you can pull out of the text input thingies other NPCs use I assume? Do they have any ingame effect (like correlate to swarm pokemon/ect?)[[User:Barakku|Barakku]] 04:08, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
::See [[trendy phrase]]. This is linked within the article, I think. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 05:37, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

== In-Game Trade? ==

Hey, in the article it says "In a house south of the Pokémon Center, a girl will trade a Haunter holding an Everstone for a Medicham." The only thing south of the pokémon center is the man with the ship... [[User:Kuma|Kuma]]
:It's really in the north-westernmost house. Fixed now. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 01:29, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

== More diamond dust ==

In the uk game at least, there is diamond dust today on 27/02/10--[[User:Mattrules161|Mattrules161]] 19:06, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
:No diamond dust in my JP Pearl. But as for anniversaries today, that would be the release of [[Pokémon Red and Green Versions|these little guys here]]... [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 19:17, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
::There isn't dust for the US DP, but there is for Platinum today. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 19:56, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

::Ok, thanks, I wondered what the new theme was for XD --[[User:Mattrules161|Mattrules161]] 21:08, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Snowpoint City

2010-02-27T19:06:13Z

Mattrules161: /* More diamond dust */ new section

Talk:Experience-affecting item

2009-07-29T10:16:41Z

Mattrules161: /* Daycare */ new section

Does the Exp Share gives the same amount of EVs or is it shared? '''[[User:Optimatum|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]] 02:25, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
:Shared. [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 02:28, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
::Same as switching does. Both Pokémon get the same effort points. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:33, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

== Daycare ==

As a pokemon recieves experience at around 1exp per step, would using an exp share make it 1.5 which rounds to 2?---Just Asking---[[User:Mattrules161|Mattrules161]] 10:16, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Vermilion Gym

2009-07-29T10:02:43Z

Mattrules161: /* Bird-type */

===Bird-type===

Is it worth noting that in FR/LG the caretaker refers to bird-type? {{unsigned|Mattrules161}}

:Doesn't he just say Bird Pokémon, meaning {{type2|Flying}}? If he explicitly says Bird-type, that's somewhat interesting, but I don't remember that at all. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 06:26, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

:He specifically states bird-type pokemon---[[User:Mattrules161|Mattrules161]] 10:02, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Pay Day (move)

2009-07-27T12:31:31Z

Mattrules161: /* Generation III */

{{MoveInfobox|
n=6 |
name=Pay Day |
jname=ネコにこばん |
jtrans=Coin for a Cat |
desc=Numerous coins are hurled at the foe to inflict damage. Money is earned after battle. |
gameimage=Meowth used Pay Day.PNG |
type=Normal |
damagecategory=Physical |
basepp=20 |
maxpp=32 |
power=40 |
accuracy=100 |
bdesc=The foe is hit with a Physical attack. If the battle is won, the user's Trainer gains money. |
gen=I |
category=Smart |
appeal=1 |
jam=0 |
cdesc=The appeal works best the more the crowd is excited. |
appealsc=1 |
scdesc=Earn +3 if the Pokémon gets the lowest score. |
pokefordex=pay+day |
touches=no |
protect=yes |
magiccoat=no |
snatch=no |
brightpowder=yes |
kingsrock=yes |
flag7=no |
flag8=no |
sound=no |
tm1=yes|
tm#1=16|
na=no|
target=any|
footnotes= }}
'''Pay Day''' (Japanese: '''ネコにこばん''' ''Coin for a Cat'', lit. ''Neko ni Koban'') is a damage-dealing {{type2|Normal}} [[move]] introduced in [[Generation I]].

The Japanese name of Pay Day is a {{wp|Japanese proverb}} akin to {{wp|Pearls Before Swine}}.

==Effect==
===Generation I===
Pay Day does damage, and scatters coins on the ground with a value equal to twice the Pokémon's level for each time it's used. These coins are picked up afterwards if the player wins the battle.

===Generation III===
Same as above, except scatters coins equal to five times the Pokémon's level each time. The [[Amulet Coin]] doubles the number of coins picked up.

==Learnset==
===[[Generation I]]===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{Learnlist|Normal}}
{{Moveentry|052|Meowth|1|Normal||17|'''}}
{{Moveentry|053|Persian|1|Normal||17|'''}}
{{Learnlist/footer}}

====By [[TM16]]====
{{Learnlist/TM|Normal}}
{{Moveentrytm|025|Pikachu|1|Electric||}}
{{Moveentrytm|026|Raichu|1|Electric||}}
{{Moveentrytm|031|Nidoqueen|2|Poison|Ground|}}
{{Moveentrytm|034|Nidoking|2|Poison|Ground|}}
{{Moveentrytm|052|Meowth|1|Normal||'''}}
{{Moveentrytm|053|Persian|1|Normal||'''}}
{{Moveentrytm|054|Psyduck|1|Water||}}
{{Moveentrytm|055|Golduck|1|Water||}}
{{Moveentrytm|056|Mankey|1|Fighting||}}
{{Moveentrytm|057|Primeape|1|Fighting||}}
{{Moveentrytm|079|Slowpoke|2|Water|Psychic|}}
{{Moveentrytm|080|Slowbro|2|Water|Psychic|}}
{{Moveentrytm|086|Seel|1|Water||}}
{{Moveentrytm|087|Dewgong|2|Water|Ice|}}
{{Moveentrytm|112|Rhydon|2|Rock|Ground|}}
{{Moveentrytm|143|Snorlax|1|Normal||'''}}
{{Moveentrytm|151|Mew|1|Psychic||}}
{{Learnlist/footer|TM}}

===[[Generation II]]===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{Learnlist|Normal}}
{{Moveentry|052|Meowth|1|Normal||20|'''}}
{{Moveentry|053|Persian|1|Normal||20|'''}}
{{Learnlist/footer}}

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
{{Breedlist|Normal}}
{{Moveentry|187|Hoppip|2|Grass|Flying|{{p|Pikachu}}, {{p|Raichu}}}}
{{Learnlist/footer/breeding}}

===[[Generation III]]===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{Learnlist|Normal}}
{{Moveentry|052|Meowth|1|Normal||20|'''||RSE}}
{{Moveentry|052|Meowth|1|Normal||18|'''||FRLG}}
{{Moveentry|053|Persian|1|Normal||20|'''||RSE}}
{{Moveentry|053|Persian|1|Normal||18|'''||FRLG}}
{{Learnlist/footer}}

====Special move====
{{Learnlistspecial|Normal}}
{{Moveentry|300|Skitty|1|Normal||[[Pokémon Box Ruby & Sapphire]]|'''}}
{{Learnlist/footer}}

===[[Generation IV]]===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{Learnlist|Normal}}
{{Moveentry|052|Meowth|1|Normal||30|'''}}
{{Learnlist/footer}}

==Other appearances==
When a Meowth appears in a Poké Ball in [[Super Smash Bros.]] and [[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]], it uses Pay Day.

==In other languages==
* French: '''Jackpot'''
* German: '''Zahltag'''
* Italian: '''Giornopaga'''
* Spanish: '''Día de Pago'''

{{Generation I TMs}}
{{Project MoveDex notice}}
[[de:Zahltag]]
[[ja:ネコにこばん]]
[[pt:Pay Day]]

Pay Day (move)

2009-07-27T12:30:09Z

Mattrules161: /* Generation I */

{{MoveInfobox|
n=6 |
name=Pay Day |
jname=ネコにこばん |
jtrans=Coin for a Cat |
desc=Numerous coins are hurled at the foe to inflict damage. Money is earned after battle. |
gameimage=Meowth used Pay Day.PNG |
type=Normal |
damagecategory=Physical |
basepp=20 |
maxpp=32 |
power=40 |
accuracy=100 |
bdesc=The foe is hit with a Physical attack. If the battle is won, the user's Trainer gains money. |
gen=I |
category=Smart |
appeal=1 |
jam=0 |
cdesc=The appeal works best the more the crowd is excited. |
appealsc=1 |
scdesc=Earn +3 if the Pokémon gets the lowest score. |
pokefordex=pay+day |
touches=no |
protect=yes |
magiccoat=no |
snatch=no |
brightpowder=yes |
kingsrock=yes |
flag7=no |
flag8=no |
sound=no |
tm1=yes|
tm#1=16|
na=no|
target=any|
footnotes= }}
'''Pay Day''' (Japanese: '''ネコにこばん''' ''Coin for a Cat'', lit. ''Neko ni Koban'') is a damage-dealing {{type2|Normal}} [[move]] introduced in [[Generation I]].

The Japanese name of Pay Day is a {{wp|Japanese proverb}} akin to {{wp|Pearls Before Swine}}.

==Effect==
===Generation I===
Pay Day does damage, and scatters coins on the ground with a value equal to twice the Pokémon's level for each time it's used. These coins are picked up afterwards if the player wins the battle.

===Generation III===
Same as above, except scatters coins equal to five times the Pokémon's level each time.

==Learnset==
===[[Generation I]]===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{Learnlist|Normal}}
{{Moveentry|052|Meowth|1|Normal||17|'''}}
{{Moveentry|053|Persian|1|Normal||17|'''}}
{{Learnlist/footer}}

====By [[TM16]]====
{{Learnlist/TM|Normal}}
{{Moveentrytm|025|Pikachu|1|Electric||}}
{{Moveentrytm|026|Raichu|1|Electric||}}
{{Moveentrytm|031|Nidoqueen|2|Poison|Ground|}}
{{Moveentrytm|034|Nidoking|2|Poison|Ground|}}
{{Moveentrytm|052|Meowth|1|Normal||'''}}
{{Moveentrytm|053|Persian|1|Normal||'''}}
{{Moveentrytm|054|Psyduck|1|Water||}}
{{Moveentrytm|055|Golduck|1|Water||}}
{{Moveentrytm|056|Mankey|1|Fighting||}}
{{Moveentrytm|057|Primeape|1|Fighting||}}
{{Moveentrytm|079|Slowpoke|2|Water|Psychic|}}
{{Moveentrytm|080|Slowbro|2|Water|Psychic|}}
{{Moveentrytm|086|Seel|1|Water||}}
{{Moveentrytm|087|Dewgong|2|Water|Ice|}}
{{Moveentrytm|112|Rhydon|2|Rock|Ground|}}
{{Moveentrytm|143|Snorlax|1|Normal||'''}}
{{Moveentrytm|151|Mew|1|Psychic||}}
{{Learnlist/footer|TM}}

===[[Generation II]]===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{Learnlist|Normal}}
{{Moveentry|052|Meowth|1|Normal||20|'''}}
{{Moveentry|053|Persian|1|Normal||20|'''}}
{{Learnlist/footer}}

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
{{Breedlist|Normal}}
{{Moveentry|187|Hoppip|2|Grass|Flying|{{p|Pikachu}}, {{p|Raichu}}}}
{{Learnlist/footer/breeding}}

===[[Generation III]]===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{Learnlist|Normal}}
{{Moveentry|052|Meowth|1|Normal||20|'''||RSE}}
{{Moveentry|052|Meowth|1|Normal||18|'''||FRLG}}
{{Moveentry|053|Persian|1|Normal||20|'''||RSE}}
{{Moveentry|053|Persian|1|Normal||18|'''||FRLG}}
{{Learnlist/footer}}

====Special move====
{{Learnlistspecial|Normal}}
{{Moveentry|300|Skitty|1|Normal||[[Pokémon Box Ruby & Sapphire]]|'''}}
{{Learnlist/footer}}

===[[Generation IV]]===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{Learnlist|Normal}}
{{Moveentry|052|Meowth|1|Normal||30|'''}}
{{Learnlist/footer}}

==Other appearances==
When a Meowth appears in a Poké Ball in [[Super Smash Bros.]] and [[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]], it uses Pay Day.

==In other languages==
* French: '''Jackpot'''
* German: '''Zahltag'''
* Italian: '''Giornopaga'''
* Spanish: '''Día de Pago'''

{{Generation I TMs}}
{{Project MoveDex notice}}
[[de:Zahltag]]
[[ja:ネコにこばん]]
[[pt:Pay Day]]

Talk:Pay Day (move)

2009-07-27T12:27:31Z

Mattrules161: /* Twice your level? */

in the generation 1 table it says that meowth is a fighting type..... [[User:Happizelpom|Happi]][[User talk:Happizelpom|zel]][[Special:Contributions/Happizelpom|pom]] 23:02, 26 August 2008 (UTC)Happizelpom

:There was nobody stopping you from fixing it... --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] [[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]] 23:21, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

== Question ==

Does Pay Day's effect happen in link battles? Or just in-game battles? --[[user:Baby G|Baby G]] ([[user talk:Baby G|talk to me]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Baby_G|see my edits]]) 00:29, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
:I'm not sure, but I don't think so. This also applies to Battle Tower/Frontier battles...speaking of money, the most one can gain without use of items (other than PP Max) is {{pdollar}}640, since you can get {{pdollar}}200 for a lv. 100 Pokémon and up to 32 PP can be gained, right? [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 14:09, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
::How do you get {{pdollar}}640 from that? 200 times 32 is {{pdollar}}6400. Although it seems correct other than that. So, theoretically. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Smarter than the average bear!]] 14:13, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Whoops... [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 23:51, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
::::Don't mean to revive a dead conversation, but can we use the AMulet Coin to double our gains, making a total of {{PDollar}}12800? '''[[User:Optimatum|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]] 00:15, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::I doubt it. The Amulet coin only affects the amount of money the Trainer gives you. [[User:Tesh|'''TESH''']][[User_talk:Tesh|'''IGIGAS''']] 00:18, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
:Doubles money received after battle if the holder takes part in the battle. It's on the Amulet coin's description. '''[[User:Optimatum|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]] 00:20, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
::Maybe it does affect it, I don't know. But this is one of those things where you need to test it. [[User:Tesh|'''TESH''']][[User_talk:Tesh|'''IGIGAS''']] 00:27, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
:::It affects Pay Day's money, too, at least in D/P, but I distinctly remember it being the same in Fire Red. I tested it with a Level 100 Meowth on a level 18 Wooper. Without the amulet, 500, and with, 1000. In the same vein, I tried in D/P's Battle Park, and there was no money gained during a challenge.[[User:Neo Qwerty|Neo Qwerty]] 01:16, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

== Twice your level? ==

I've been using a Meowth level 18 in LeafGreen and attacking with Pay Day. Each time, it gave me 90{{PDollar}}, and 180 if used twice. And then my Meowth gained a level, and each time he used Pay Day, it gave me 95{{PDollar}}. Is it possible that it was changed to 5 times your pokemon's level? That would be my guess, but if others can confirm... Thanks! [[User:Dargad|Dargad]] 03:12, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

:I know for sure it was 2× in [[Generation I]]--being inexperienced when I first played {{v2|Yellow}}, I often taught the starter {{p|Pikachu}} the move via TM and used it often against {{p|Rhydon}} in the [[Cerulean Cave]] to make big profits. Keep in mind that the Generation I games had no real easy money-making methods.

:The best way to test your theory would be to test Pay Day in each generation, both with and without the Amulet Coin in [[Generation II]] onward. This'll give us a timetable on both if and when the Pay Day ratio changes. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 03:22, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

:The 5× ratio definitely applies in generation IV, in Platinum using it twice gave me {{PDollar}}300 with a level 30. -[[User:Mattrules161|Mattrules161]] 12:27, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Vermilion Gym

2009-06-24T18:21:58Z

Mattrules161: Created page with '===Bird-type=== Is it worth noting that in FR/LG the caretaker refers to bird-type?'

===Bird-type===

Is it worth noting that in FR/LG the caretaker refers to bird-type?

Talk:Lost Tower

2009-06-16T17:00:16Z

Mattrules161: Created page with '==Platinum== We need a new column for platinum-I will sort out some but i am not sure on how to do a table'

==Platinum==

We need a new column for platinum-I will sort out some but i am not sure on how to do a table

Talk:In-game trade

2009-06-16T16:40:07Z

Mattrules161:

==Nicknames==
IMO, the nicknames section kind of makes things look cramped. It also kind of makes the article cross the line between providing useful information and being a triviafest. And the (necessary) all caps sticks out like a sore thumb and makes it look bad. But I'm mostly concerned about the cramping. What do you guys think? - [[User:System Error|System Error]]

:Mmm.. it IS a list of in-game trades however. I would like to know what nickname my Mr Mime is getting, and the cramping problem doesn't show up for me (I'm using a widescreen monitor though).. [[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|The]][[Kirlia (Pokémon)|Kirlia]] ♥ [[Image:281MS.gif]] 01:39, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
::*It's not somuch the fact that it takes up a lot of space as it is...well, actually, that pretty much is what it's about. It has little to do with the size of the screen, though. I am using a 1024x768 resolution, and it still looks bad. Maybe it's just that only one of the sections has the nicknames at the moment, though. - [[User:System Error|System Error]] 01:46, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
::{{U|TTEchidna}} suggested putting the nicks in on [[Talk:Trade]] in May. [[User:Zurqoxn|Zurqoxn]] 01:41, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
:::*Yes, I know. However, I designed the formatting tables for the page in August. Fun fact: I did want to put the nicknames into the tables originally, but I couldn't find a way to do so without making it look bad (plus there was the problem of actually getting them). I also wanted to explain some of them too, but there's not really much to explain about many of them (most are plays on the Pokemon's name or something very obvious), and there's really no place on the page for them, so I scrapped that idea even before the nickname one. [[User:System Error|System Error]] 02:02, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

== A piece of info. ==

When trading (in diamond/pearl and platinum)
-a shiny pokemon: the counterpart received is not shiny.
-the IVs of the pokemon obtained are different so are its base stats.
twistedpokefan.

==Natures?==
I started over with Leafgreen a couple of times, and I noticed that the Pokémon I received always had the same nature. The Nidorino always had a Bold nature, and the Mr. Mime had a Timid nature. Should a column be made for this? [[User:Hoolo|Hoolo]] 14:10, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

==Rick Astley?==
Someone has spammed the page so all pokemon sprites link to Rick Astley(pokemon).

Dusknoir (Pokémon)

2009-06-05T19:34:34Z

Mattrules161: /* Trivia */

{{PokémonPrevNext | prevnum=476 | nextnum=478 | prev=Dusknoir | next=Rotom | type=ghost | prev=Probopass | next=Froslass }}
{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Dusknoir |
jname=ヨノワール |
tmname=Yonoir |
image=ArtYonoir.png |
caption=Artwork from D/P |
pron=<sc>''dusk''-nwar </sc>|
ndex=477 |
sdex=191 |
adex=192 |
typen=1 |
type1=Ghost |
type2= |
species=Gripper |
height-ftin=7'03" |
height-m=2.2 |
weight-lbs=235.0 |
weight-kg=106.6 |
abilityn=1 |
ability1=Pressure |
ability2= |
egggroupn=1 |
egggroup1=Indeterminate |
egggroup2= |
eggcycles=25 |
evde=1|
evsd=2|
expyield=210 |
lv100exp=800,000 |
gendercode=127|
color=Black |
catchrate=45 |
body= 04|
pokefordex= |
generation=4 |
footnotes=}}
'''Dusknoir''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''ヨノワール''' ''Yonoir'') is a {{type2|Ghost}} Pokémon.

It [[Evolution|evolves]] from {{p|Dusclops}} when [[trade]]d holding a [[Reaper Cloth]]. It is the final form of {{p|Duskull}}.

==Biology==
===Physiology===
Dusknoir's body is mostly black, with two almond shaped eye-like markings and a yellow horizontal zigzag line on this Pokémon's torso which can open like a mouth (creating the illusion of a face) and fire powerful attacks. Dusknoir now has fully developed arms. Two yellow bands are near its black wrists and its grey hands are similar to Dusclops'. Dusknoir has a gray, cylinder-shaped head with another yellow band near the top and a single black glaring eye with a yellow iris and a red pupil. Dusknoir has a gray neck collar divided into six flaps; three growing out of each side of it's neck. The collar ends in a v-neck at the front. Dusknoir has a ghostly tail instead of feet like Dusclops, resembling the typical depiction of a genie. Dusknoir has a yellow antenna on top of its head in which allows this Pokémon to receive transmissions from the spirit world which tell it to bring people there. In addition, it may have ties to the Grim Reaper, as the player needs a [[Reaper Cloth]] in order for it to evolve.
====Gender differences====
None.

====Special abilities====
In addition to the usual powers most ghost Pokémon possess, they also have great physical strength and can learn the [[Move variations|elemental punches]].

===Behavior===
They receive radio signals from the spirit world that tell it to bring people there. In the anime however, a Dusknoir was seen protecting Ash and Angie from being sucked into a portal to the spirit realm by a demon.

===Habitat===
They tend to prefer dark areas best.
===Diet===
{{main|Pokémon food}}

==In the anime==
[[Image:Dusknoir anime.jpg|thumb|Dusknoir in the anime|210px]]
Dusknoir made its debut appearance in ''[[DP090|Ghoul Daze!]]'' where it tried to protect humans from a demonic girl who was trying to send them to the spirit world. However, Dusknoir was often blamed for the trouble that the girl caused.

==In the manga==

==In the TCG==
{{main|Dusknoir (TCG)}}

==Game data==

===NPC appearances===
{{spoilers}}
[[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 2]]: {{OBP|Dusknoir|Mystery Dungeon 2 character}} is the chief antagonist of the main story line.

===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex
|type=ghost
|gen=4
|diamonddex=The antenna on its head captures radio waves from the world of spirits that command it to take people there.
|pearldex=The antenna on its head captures radio waves from the world of spirits that command it to take people there.
|platinumdex=It is said to take lost spirits into its pliant body and guide them home.
|}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability|
type=ghost |
gen=4 |
dparea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Dusclops}} |
ptarea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Dusclops}} |
}}

====In side games====
{{SidegameAvail
|type=Ghost
|md2=[[Spacial Rift]] (B14-B15) [[Deep Spacial Rift]] (B1-B4) [[Sky Stairway]] (1F-49F)
|ranger2=[[Hippowdon Temple]]
}}

===Base stats===
{{BaseStats|
type=ghost |
HP=45 |
Attack=100 |
Defense=135 |
SpAtk=65 |
SpDef=135 |
Speed=45 }}

===Type effectiveness===
{{DP type effectiveness|
type1=Ghost|

Normal= 0 |
Fighting= 0 |
Flying= 100 |
Poison= 50 |
Ground= 100 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 50 |
Ghost= 200 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 100 |
Water= 100 |
Grass= 100 |
Electric= 100 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 100 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 200 |

notes=yes|
ghost=yes|
newnormal=1|
newfighting=1}}

===Learnset===
{{learnset intro|Dusknoir}}
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{movelist|ghost|ghost|4|4|Dusknoir}}
{{mlentry4|Start|ThunderPunch|Electric|Physical|75|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Fire Punch|Fire|Physical|75|100|15|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Ice Punch|Ice|Physical|75|100|15|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Gravity|Psychic|Status|—|—|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Bind|Normal|Physical|15|75|20|Tough|0}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Leer|Normal|Status|—|100|30|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Night Shade|Ghost|Special|—|100|15|Smart|3}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Disable|Normal|Status|—|80|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|6|Disable|Normal|Status|—|80|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|9|Foresight|Normal|Status|—|—|40|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|14|Astonish|Ghost|Physical|30|100|15|Smart|3||'''}}
{{mlentry4|17|Confuse Ray|Ghost|Status|—|100|10|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|22|Shadow Sneak|Ghost|Physical|40|100|30|Smart|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|25|Pursuit|Dark|Physical|40|100|20|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|30|Curse|???|Status|—|—|10|Tough|0}}
{{mlentry4|33|Will-O-Wisp|Fire|Status|—|75|15|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|37|Shadow Punch|Ghost|Physical|60|—|20|Smart|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|43|Mean Look|Normal|Status|—|—|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|51|Payback|Dark|Physical|50|100|10|Cool|1}}
{{mlentry4|61|Future Sight|Psychic|Special|80|90|15|Smart|2}}
{{movelist/note|4|ghost}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{movelisttm|ghost|ghost|4|4|Dusknoir}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM01]]|Focus Punch|Fighting|Physical|150|100|20|Tough|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM04]]|Calm Mind|Psychic|Status|—|—|20|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM06]]|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|85|10|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM10]]|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|—|100|15|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM11]]|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|—|—|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM12]]|Taunt|Dark|Status|—|100|20|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM13]]|Ice Beam|Ice|Special|95|100|10|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM14]]|Blizzard|Ice|Special|120|70|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM15]]|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|5|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM17]]|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM18]]|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM21]]|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM26]]|Earthquake|Ground|Physical|100|100|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM27]]|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM29]]|Psychic|Psychic|Special|90|100|10|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM30]]|Shadow Ball|Ghost|Special|80|100|15|Smart|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM31]]|Brick Break|Fighting|Physical|75|100|15|Cool|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM32]]|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM39]]|Rock Tomb|Rock|Physical|50|80|10|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM41]]|Torment|Dark|Status|—|100|15|Tough|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM42]]|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM43]]|Secret Power|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM44]]|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM45]]|Attract|Normal|Status|—|100|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM46]]|Thief|Dark|Physical|40|100|10|Tough|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM48]]|Skill Swap|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM49]]|Snatch|Dark|Status|—|—|10|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM52]]|Focus Blast|Fighting|Special|120|70|5|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM56]]|Fling|Dark|Physical|—|100|10|Tough|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM57]]|Charge Beam|Electric|Special|50|90|10|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM58]]|Endure|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM61]]|Will-O-Wisp|Fire|Status|—|75|15|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM63]]|Embargo|Dark|Status|—|100|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM66]]|Payback|Dark|Physical|50|100|10|Cool|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM68]]|Giga Impact|Normal|Physical|150|90|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM70]]|Flash|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM77]]|Psych Up|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM78]]|Captivate|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM79]]|Dark Pulse|Dark|Special|80|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM80]]|Rock Slide|Rock|Physical|75|90|10|Tough|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM82]]|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM83]]|Natural Gift|Normal|Physical|—|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM85]]|Dream Eater|Psychic|Special|100|100|15|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM87]]|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM90]]|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM92]]|Trick Room|Psychic|Status|—|—|5|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM04]]|Strength|Normal|Physical|80|100|15|Tough|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM06]]|Rock Smash|Fighting|Physical|40|100|15|Tough|2}}
{{movelist/note|4|ghost}}

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
{{eggmoves|ghost|ghost|4|4|Dusknoir}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Gastly}}, {{p|Haunter}}, {{p|Gengar}} {{p|Koffing}}, {{p|Weezing}} {{p|Misdreavus}}, {{p|Mismagius}} {{p|Wobbuffet}} {{p|Ralts}}, {{p|Kirlia}}, {{p|Gardevoir}}, {{p|Gallade}} {{p|Gulpin}}, {{p|Swalot}} {{p|Shuppet}}, {{p|Banette}} {{p|Drifloon}}, {{p|Drifblim}} {{p|Spiritomb}} {{p|Rotom}}|Destiny Bond|Ghost|Status|—|—|5|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Shuppet}}, {{p|Banette}} {{p|Drifloon}}, {{p|Drifblim}} {{p|Spiritomb}}|Faint Attack|Dark|Physical|60|—|20|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Gastly}}, {{p|Haunter}}, {{p|Gengar}} {{p|Koffing}}, {{p|Weezing}} {{p|Misdreavus}}, {{p|Mismagius}} {{p|Ralts}}, {{p|Kirlia}}, {{p|Gardevoir}}, {{p|Gallade}} {{p|Shuppet}}, {{p|Banette}} {{p|Spiritomb}}|Grudge|Ghost|Status|—|—|5|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Grimer}}, {{p|Muk}} {{p|Misdreavus}}, {{p|Mismagius}} {{p|Ralts}}, {{p|Kirlia}}, {{p|Gardevoir}}, {{p|Gallade}} {{p|Shuppet}}, {{p|Banette}} {{p|Spiritomb}}|Imprison|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Grimer}}, {{p|Muk}} {{p|Koffing}}, {{p|Weezing}} {{p|Misdreavus}}, {{p|Mismagius}} {{p|Slugma}}, {{p|Magcargo}} {{p|Ralts}}, {{p|Kirlia}}, {{p|Gardevoir}}, {{p|Gallade}} {{p|Shellos}}, {{p|Gastrodon}} {{p|Drifloon}}, {{p|Drifblim}} {{p|Spiritomb}}|Memento|Dark|Status|—|100|10|Tough|0}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Misdreavus}}, {{p|Mismagius}} {{p|Drifloon}}, {{p|Drifblim}} {{p|Spiritomb}}|Ominous Wind|Ghost|Special|60|100|5|Smart|0||'''}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Grimer}}, {{p|Muk}} {{p|Koffing}}, {{p|Weezing}} {{p|Misdreavus}}, {{p|Mismagius}} {{p|Gulpin}}, {{p|Swalot}} {{p|Spiritomb}}|Pain Split|Normal|Status|—|—|20|Smart|2}}
{{eggmoves/note|4|ghost}}

====By [[Move tutor|tutoring]]====
{{tutor|ghost|ghost|4a|4|Dusknoir}}
{{mtentry4a|Fire Punch|Fire|Physical|75|100|15|Beauty|2|||no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Ice Punch|Ice|Physical|75|100|15|Beauty|2|||no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Icy Wind|Ice|Special|55|95|15|Beauty|2|||no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Mud-Slap|Ground|Special|20|100|10|Cute|3|||no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Ominous Wind|Ghost|Special|60|100|5|Smart|0||'''|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Snore|Normal|Special|40|100|15|Cute|3|||no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Spite|Ghost|Status|—|100|10|Tough|2|||no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Sucker Punch|Dark|Physical|80|100|5|Smart|2|||no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|ThunderPunch|Electric|Physical|75|100|15|Cool|2|||no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Trick|Psychic|Status|—|100|10|Smart|0|||no|yes}}
{{tutor/note|4a|ghost}}

===Side game data===
{{Side game|
type=ghost |
ndex=477 |
Dungeon2=yes |
body2=1 |
rate2=8.2% |
iq=F |
Ranger2=yes |
typeG2= Ghost |
typeA2= Ghost |
field2= Psy Power |
field2power= 3 |

browser2= It protects itself with a ghostly fire. It attacks with eerie orbs. |
}}

===Evolution===
{{evobox/2|355|Duskull|1|Ghost||[[Level|Level 37]]|356|Dusclops|1|Ghost||[[Trade]] holding [[Reaper Cloth]]|477|Dusknoir|1|Ghost}}

===Sprites===
{{Sprite|
type=ghost|
gen=4|
gender=none|
ndex=477|
name=Dusknoir}}

==Trivia==
* Dusknoir and {{p|Gengar}} are the only second evolution {{type2|Ghost}}s. Dusknoir is the only one that is purely Ghost-type. Both [[evolve]] from their previous forms by [[trade|trading]].
* In [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 2]], while the "face" on Dusknoir's stomach seems to have an angry expression, the face on its back appears to be smiling.
** {{p|Spinarak}} has a similar pattern.
* Dusknoir has the highest Defense and Special Defense out of all Ghost-type Pokémon.
* Dusknoir is the second [[list of Pokémon by weight|heaviest]] non-legendary Ghost-type Pokémon, after {{p|Spiritomb}}.
* Dusknoir has similarities with {{p|Darkrai}}. They are both portrayed as villains in {{g|Mystery Dungeon 2}}, but they are portrayed as misunderstood heroes in their debut appearances in the {{pkmn|anime}}.
** In {{g|Ranger: Shadows of Almia}}, Dusknoir appears as the boss right before {{p|Darkrai}}. Both Pokémon are used by [[Blake Hall]], [[Team Dim Sun]]'s boss.
* While Dusknoir's name is pronounced "Dusk-nwar", {{g|Battle Revolution}} mispronounces it as "Dusk-no-are".
* Although Dusknoir has no legs, it can have {{m|Mega Kick}} because {{p|dusclops|it's pre-evolution}} has legs and is therefore able to learn it by move tutor in the Generation III games. Dusclops can then be [[Pal Park|transferred]] to the Generation IV games and evolved into Dusknoir.
*In the ''{{an|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of the Sky}}'' special Dusknoir seems capable of using {{M|Rapid Spin}} which is [[Anime move errors|impossible]] for Dusknoir to learn.
===Origin===
Dusknoir appears to be a ghostly {{wp|cyclops}}. A Japanese one-eyed mountain-dwelling creature named the {{wp|Gazu Hyakki Yakō|Yamawarawa}} may have been the inspiration for this Pokémon.

====Name origin====
Dusknoir's name is derived from ''{{wp|dusk}}'' and ''{{wp|black|noir}}'', which is French for ''black''. Yonoir is a combination of 夜 ''yo'' or ''yoru'', ''night'', and ''noir''.

==In other languages==
*[[List of German Pokémon names|German]]: Zwirrfinst - From ''Zwielicht'' (twilight), ''wirr'' (chaotic), and ''Finsternis'' (darkness).
*[[List of French Pokémon names|French]]: Noctunoir - From ''nocturne'' (nocturnal) and ''noir'' (black).
*[[List of Korean Pokémon names|Korean]]: 야느와르몽 ''Yanoirmong''

==Related articles==
* [[Dusknoir (Mystery Dungeon 2 character)]]

==External links==

{{PokémonPrevNext | prevnum=476 | nextnum=478 | prev=Dusknoir | next=Rotom | type=ghost | prev=Probopass | next=Froslass }}
{{Project Pokédex notice}}
[[Category:Pokémon with cross-generational evolutions]]

[[de:Zwirrfinst]]

[[fr:Noctunoir]]
[[ja:ヨノワール]]
[[pt:Dusknoir (pokémon)]]

Talk:Effort values

2009-05-31T16:14:29Z

Mattrules161: /* Partner Pokemon? */ new section

Where "252" comes from isn't explained... it'd be better as Math.floor(255/4), but I'd prefer to see it written with the proper math symbols, which don't appear to be supported in Bulbapedia yet... - Hyperworm.
:We'll try to get texvc installed, but that would mean getting an Ocaml compiler for whatever platform the server is running... not to mention checking that TeX is installed properly, etc. (mutter...) - [[User:Zhen Lin|刘 (劉) 振霖]] 12:23, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)

:Feel free to make it floor(255/4) with a description of the floor command, but leave the "Math." out, Bulbapedia isn't a compiler. Don't expect most people viewing the page to know what "floor()" does.
:--[[User:Jshadias|Jshadias]] 00:53, 22 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Is anyone thinking of compiling a chart of pokemon and what Effort Values they have? I see that each pokemon has theirs on their own pages but it doesn't list all of them at one spot, any ambitions or places online that it could be copied over from? [[User:Lucasthalefty|Lucasthalefty]] 02:12, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

:Bulbapedia already has one of those, actually. Now that you mention it, I hvae no idea why it's not linked to here. I'll add a hyperlink to the article. -- [[user:Jioruji Derako|'''J'''ioruji '''D'''erako.'''>''']] 04:08, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Wow that makes it so much better thanks [[User:Lucasthalefty|Lucasthalefty]] 14:47, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Just a point of clarification here - is it necessary to get a Pokemon to lv. 100 to get the full EV benefits? [[User:Fuzzy|Fuzzy]] 13:53, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
:Once they have the effort ribbon, you'll know they have full effort values. Otherwise, then, you can't really know. Heck, a Pokémon can hit 100 without full EVs. --'''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 19:12, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
::No, no. I mean, do the stat benefits show up only at lv. 100, or immediately after you've filled the 510 EVs? [[User:Fuzzy|Fuzzy]] 14:59, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
:::Well, it's not like leveling from 99 to 100 will add some ridiculously high number to the stats. I don't keep track personally, but I think that they'll show up instantly once you've filled the EVs, and it won't matter if you enter them as some lower level into the autolevel-to-100 battle on WFC, or level them up naturally. --'''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 21:26, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Actually, if you have enough evs, the stat gain comes after you level up. Say you get 16 evs before leveling up. If so, then when you do level up and you get 16 atk's, youll get 4 evs. So leveling to 100 isnt necesarry-- [[User:Mr T Tar]]
:It is. You may have the EVs, but you don't have the stats. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 04:32, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

And now i know thanks to you. I feel like a noob T_T

== Some adjustments needed? ==

First off, vitamins, The article's wording seems to imply that a vitamin can be used when the current points are any amount less than 100, and unless things have changed, or i know wrong, vitamins will only raise EV's TO 100 and never over 100, meaning vitamins can only be used when current EV's are 90 or less.

Also, the basic info seems to ONLY address the final results at level 100, leading to earlier confusion about whether or not EV's apply anytime before. The EV portion of the stat calculations could be here, and/or a chart showing at what levels the EV's needed for an actual stat point are whole numbers, and how many it is, along the lines of:

100 = 4
80 = 5
50 = 8
40 = 10
25 = 16
20 = 20
16 = 25
10 = 40
8 = 50
5 = 80
4 = 100
-------
2 = 200
1 = 400

Obviously we don't need a lot of the lower levels, since it'd be difficult to finish EV training that low. at eight, you'd need to use all the vitamins the game will let you to get just two stat points, and only one for the same at level 4, and gaining a single whole stat point is impossible at levels 1 and 2.
:I'm thinking the chart should be cut off at 4, since then you could still use vitamins to gain 5 single stat points in different stats. {{u|Kendai}} 10:38 October 22, 2007.

I get the numbers by dividing 400 by the level, or the needed number of EV's. You can see they start to mirror at 20.

:Vitamins are only if the EV's less than 100 at the time of use. Even if it's 99, you can still use one vitamin. '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:03, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

== Double on the route where caught? ==

I read somewhere (a long time ago, I forget now) that when training a Pokémon on the same route or other map area where you caught it, it will receive double the normal amount of EVs. Does anyone know if this is true?
:I know that in Crystal, it raised happiness by like, double or something. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 02:54, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Is it possible to check how many EVs are there for a apecific stat? [[Image:Ani448MS.gif]][[User:Jmath|'''Jmath''']][[Image:Ani447MS.gif]][[User talk:Jmath|'''Talk''']][[Image:Ani448MS.gif]] 19:48, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

== EV ==

Is it possible to check how many EVs are there for a a specific stat? [[Image:Ani448MS.gif]][[User:Jmath|'''Jmath''']][[Image:Ani447MS.gif]][[User talk:Jmath|'''Talk''']][[Image:Ani448MS.gif]] 19:48, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
* If you know the IVs, you can come pretty damn close. But otherwise, no. [[User:System Error|System Error]] 21:43, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Is there any way you can max out a specific stat without the use of vitamins? [[Image:Ani448MS.gif]][[User:Jmath|'''Jmath''']][[Image:Ani447MS.gif]][[User talk:Jmath|'''Talk''']][[Image:Ani448MS.gif]] 13:58, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
:Yes. Extra EV training can make up for no vitamin usage. [[User:Ultraflame|Ultraflame]] 18:41, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
::How do you do that? [[Image:Ani448MS.gif]][[User:Jmath|'''Jmath''']][[Image:Ani447MS.gif]][[User talk:Jmath|'''Talk''']][[Image:Ani448MS.gif]] 19:17, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
:::All 252 (255) EVs would have to come from battling. [[User:Ultraflame|Ultraflame]] 02:02, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
::::Does that mean you have to battle continuously? [[Image:Ani448MS.gif]][[User:Jmath|'''Jmath''']][[Image:Ani447MS.gif]][[User talk:Jmath|'''Talk''']][[Image:Ani448MS.gif]] 18:48, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::Yep. So if you wanted to raise Sp Attack EVs, you'd battle something like Budew 252 times (Budew gives out one Sp Attack EV, I think) [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 18:50, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
:Unless you have the 'rus and a Macho Brace. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 00:48, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

What about Emerald? [[Image:Ani448MS.gif]][[User:Jmath|'''Jmath''']][[Image:Ani447MS.gif]][[User talk:Jmath|'''Talk''']][[Image:Ani448MS.gif]] 06:59, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
:I think (THINK!) it is more or less the same. '''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|Ph34r4ever]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk page]][[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]</sc>''' 07:14, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
::But how do you know battling which Pokémon raises which EV? [[Image:Ani448MS.gif]][[User:Jmath|'''Jmath''']][[Image:Ani447MS.gif]][[User talk:Jmath|'''Talk''']][[Image:Ani448MS.gif]] 07:24, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Ask TTE. He knows (almost) everything! '''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|Ph34r4ever]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk page]][[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]</sc>''' 07:52, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

:::(edit conflict) Or ask me!
:::There's a list linked on the article here, and other lists across the 'web as well. Generally, Pokémon will give EVs to stats they're strong in themselves (Zubat's Speed stat is it's strongest, so it gives out 1 EV to Speed when you defeat it). There are some exceptions, but that's generally how it works out.
:::For training in a specific stat, generally you just look at a list of Pokémon by EV reward, find ones that are fairly common, and track down a spot where you can find them easily. For example, Fearow and Raticate both give 2 EVs to Attack, and the area just North of the Fight Area in D/P is full of Fearow and Raticate; if you were planning to train for Attack, that would be the easiest place to train (fighting Fearow and Raticate, and running from anything else). Is that what you meant to ask? --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 07:56, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
::::Could you give me a link to any of those websites? And could you also tell me how to raise Special Attack in Emerald (that's what I'm playing now)?
:::::For one, [[List of Pokémon by effort value yield]] is right here, simply sort by the Sp. Atk. column, which will put anything with more then a zero at the top (keep an eye out for some Pokémon that raise multiple stats at once, they can mess up your math).
:::::In Emerald, let's see... Sp. Atk. is something I've trained before, let me check my notes. *runs off*
:::::...I trained on [[Route 113]], [[Spinda]]s and [[Slugma]]s each give out 1 point towards Sp. Atk. stat. Flee from [[Skarmory]], they give out 2 points towards Def. stat (Skarmory are pretty rare anyways). MAKE SURE you mark down each Spinda/Slugma you defeat, there's nothing more annoying then losing count after number 134! And don't forget to save every so often too.
:::::One more note, if you didn't already know, Exp. Share shares EVs too, so if you need to train two Pokémon for Sp. Atk., give one of them an Exp. Share and it'll gain the EVs from battling too. It won't get the benefit of a Macho Brace or anything if your first Pokémon has one, though.
:::::...last note, training there is a great way to collect Soot on the route while you're at it. ;D --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 00:09, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

One more thing....is there any other way to get Attack EVs without having to battle Carvanha? (I can't find that thing anywhere!!!) [[Image:Ani448MS.gif]][[User:Jmath|'''Jmath''']][[Image:Ani447MS.gif]][[User talk:Jmath|'''Talk''']][[Image:Ani448MS.gif]] 14:01, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

I was wondering if somebody could please explain something for me... sorry if I'm slow to pick it up, I only found out about EVs a little while ago (so yeah, I played my way through the games ignorant of them), but I'm having trouble understanding how EVs actually become stat points. I understand how you accumulate EVs, but at what point, and how, do these become stat points? I originally assumed that it was instant (i.e., you get four EVs in a particular stat, that becomes a stat point for that stat) but from reading the rest of the discussion on this page, that doesn't seem to be the case. Someone also mentioned resetting EV values... that confused me too :S
If there's a clearer explanation of how this works somewhere else, I'd really appreciate it if someone could direct me to it.
Thanks- Timothy.
:Every four EV points you gain, that's +1 in that stat at level 100. You can get up to 255 EVs in one stat, 510 total. 252 is where most people stop for a specific stat, since you don't get stat points for 3 EVs. EV points are gained from specific Pokémon, and there's a list of them somewhere around here. They get doubled by Pokérus and the Macho Brace. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 14:07, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

==Lv 100 Pokemon==
Sigh.. my brother wanted to make a Latias he got stronger. The Latias was Lv100, so he gave the berries that lower EVs in ATTACK, so he could give extra Sp.Atk to his Latias, but when he went to train, the Latias did NOT receive any EV after battling (he tried doing the box trick so the game would recalculate the EVs, but the Sp.Atk didn't rise). So here is the question: Can a Lv 100 Pokemon receive EVs? '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 18:21, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
:No, you can't EV train at 100. [[User:Tina|Tina]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|☆]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 18:29, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
::What about in Generation III? I've heard many conflicting stories about Level 100 Pokémon in Generation III receiving/not receiving experience and EVs. [[User:Ultraflame|Ultraflame]] 02:16, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
:::I'm positive that without actually leveling up, the Pokémon won't gain any EVs. I believe the previous versions allowed players to deposit a Pokémon into a storage box, then withdraw, which would re-count the EVs... but this isn't in Gen.III, I'm 99% sure. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 03:52, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

::And what about pokémon that I already use vitamins? I mean because if you use medicine on them until it gets to "It won't have any effect", can you still train them? '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 19:53, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
:::Vitamins cap out at 100 EVs (10 EVs per item), so when the Vitamins stop working, there's still 155 EVs left that you can do in that stat.
:::In Gen.IV at least, I know Vitamins won't actually help you out training a level 100 Pokémon, if that's your question, since Vitamins grant EVs, and you'll need to level up to gain the effects. Just an FYI. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 09:41, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
:Eheh, he tried the box trick? That's only in the original Game Boys, not the Advance. So the trick won't work: 0.00000000000001% chance of it working. Good luck. Posted by the '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''09:45 21 May 2008'''''
::If this is any evidence for or against the idea, I once made a mistake in EV training my Donphan--It was Level 50 with 196/140 HP/Attack instead of the 197/141 I wanted. I deleted its EVs, re-trained it WITHOUT LEVELLING IT UP, and deposited it into the PC. Donphan is still Level 50 and now has 197/141 HP/Attack. [[User:Ultraflame|Ultraflame]] 22:16, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
:::Which game were you playing exactly? --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 05:09, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
::::Sorry. It was Diamond. [[User:Ultraflame|Ultraflame]] 22:46, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::The box trick works in Gen III too. I've done it many times, but just for fun because I know it's the same as leveling up. But I was wondering if you could do it with lv 100 pokemon too, because it's still possible with other pokemon. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 00:48, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

==Maxing Stats?==
I've noticed that a lot of people manually count the number of battles they do while maxing a stat to 252...but wouldn't it be more convenient to just get it to 255 without counting and using a EV-reducing berry? Thanks. [[User:Drbazzi|Drbazzi]] 18:09, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
:Well, a berry would reduce it to 245, as they make EVs decrease by 10. And... why 252? it is just the same as 255. if you get 252 in two stats, you'll be able to get other 6 EVs for a thid stat, but it will only increase it 1 point at level 100... and 1 at level 100 is the same as nothing. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 20:45, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
:::In Emerald, that method would be more convenient. For Diamond/Pearl (and later, I would assume), if the Pokémon has more than 100 EVs in a stat, one EV-reducing berry would take it back to 100. For example, using an EV-reducing berry on a Pokémon with 255 EVs would take it down to 100 EVs, and using a berry on one with 101 EVs would also take it down to 100. For Hfc2x's question, let me turn that around: "Why 255? It is just the same as 252." The 1 extra point is for "all the advantage you can get", because you never know when one extra point may save you. [[User:Ultraflame|Ultraflame]] 19:15, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
::::Nopes, you're wrong. EV-reducing berries lower the EVs by 10 ALWAYS, even when it is over 100. and the 1 point in one stat is nothing, 'cause you can only make the difference every 18 points at level 100. For example... if I have a Pokémon with 300 of speed and my oponent has 305, ANY of the Pokémon may attack first because the difference is so minimal. And for offensive stats there is something called "{{wp|Random number generation|RNG}}" which is the reason of why sometimes your attacks are more powerful than usual, and not just for your high stats. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 02:21, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::Okay, try maxing out a stat in Diamond/Pearl, and use one berry. I have tried it myself--there is a MASSIVE loss with the first berry and a much smaller loss with the second, third, and so on. Your speed example is ridiculous, because a 305-Speed Pokémon will ALWAYS move before a 300-Speed, provided the moves have the same priority. Remember what I said: "Why 255? It is just the same as 252.", and "all the advantage you can get". [[User:Ultraflame|Ultraflame]] 21:50, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
::::::No offense, but Playing Diamond and Pearl doesn't mean that you are the complete master of the games... I know why I say it. A Pokémon with 305 speed MAY attack before another with 300, and I tell you not because I'm sure, but that's the way the game works. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 00:17, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::::I still challenge you to try it in Diamond/Pearl. I say again: "Your speed example is ridiculous, because a 305-Speed Pokémon will ALWAYS move before a 300-Speed, provided the moves have the same priority." [[User:Ultraflame|Ultraflame]] 00:52, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
You think I've never played Pokémon? xD quoting your own phrases is not the great thing... please read the whole talk page and see that I've already done that. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 04:17, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

If you are EV training a Pokémon with both a Macho Brace(Power Anklet, et al.) and the Pokérus, does the doubling take place before or after the plus four? For example, if I defeat a Jumpluff with a Pokémon that is holding a Power Anklet and currently has or has previously had the Pokérus, will it be getting 10 EVs(3*2+4) or 14 EVs((3+4)*2)? --[[User:Podunk|Podunk]] 10:54, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
:It works like this:
:I defeated a {{p|Gastly}} and my {{p|Alakazam}} had [[Pokérus]] and was holding [[EV-enhancing item#Power Lens|Power Lens]]. Gastly gives 1 {{Stat|Special Attack|Sp.Atk}} EV and the Power lens gives 4 extra EVs also, giving a total of 5. THEN the Pokérus duplicates the EVs for the Pokémon, (in this case Alakazam) giving a total of 10 Sp.Atk EVs. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 19:20, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

== Oh really? ==

The last sentence states that it adds 4 EVs to the respective stat even if EVs in a different stat are gained. Is this tested to be true?

To clarify, +4 first, THEN x2 for Pokerus - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Mr. Black|Mr. Black]] ([[User talk:Mr. Black|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Mr. Black|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''

Also, I believe the EV system for Generations I and II is wrong here. I'm fairly sure Pokemon weren't given specific EV values like they are now, I think EVs were actually calculated based on a Pokemon's stats. Please check it anyway to make sure.

Since you added 252 is the highest multiple of 4 in 255, you might want to add 508 is the highest multiple of 4 in 510, making 2 available EVs useless. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Mr. Black|Mr. Black]] ([[User talk:Mr. Black|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Mr. Black|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''
:Well, Mr. Black isn't responding you questions... The first one is YES, if you use Power Wheight you'll always gain +4 HP EVs, even if you fight a Graveler. And the second one is NO, Pokémon always have given away the same EVs they give now, but the difference is that there is no limit in Gens I and II, instead of the limit of 510 in Gens III and IV. {{unsigned|hfc2x}}

Well, I'll explain it better:
*Power Wheight helps you get +4 EVs in HP ''EVERY TIME YOU FIGHT AND FAINT AND OPPONENT''. This is added to the total if you haven't got the Pokerus. If you have Pokérus, then the total (after adding the bonus for the held item) is multiplied by 2.
*In Generations I and II, ALL Pokémon give ''THE SAME'' EVs they give now. The only difference among generations is the total of EVs you can add to a Pokémon if you want to train. In Gens III and IV the maximum training in EVs is 510, with a maximum of 255 in every stat, but the total cannot exceed 510. In Gens I and II, there is no maximum amount of EVs in any stat nor a maximum of total EVs. Meaning that you can get infinite training.

I hope it is clear now... '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 18:31, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

* I think your second statement about Generations I and II is incorrect. According to [http://www.geocities.com/thelegendarydogs/faqs/all/genes/genesfaq.htm this GenI&II Pokémon DVs guide], defeating a Pokémon added its base stats to your EV scores (called Stat XP in the old terminology), and your EV scores were limited to 65535. This corroborates with the [[Pokémon data structure in the GB|data structure]], which has ten bytes for Effort data or two bytes per stat, and two bytes can store a maximum value of 65535. --[[User:JDigital|JDigital]] 05:41, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

== Probability ==

How many different combinations of EVs are possible without going over the limit for EVs, 510, and the limit in each individual stat, 255? {{unsigned|Superbreeder}}

:I think 255! * 6...but that doesn't discount duplicates, so I'm not quite sure. It probably involves factorials, and it's certainly exceptionally large. [[User:Evkl|evkl]] 21:50, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
::Ask {{u|Beligaronia|this guy}} nicely. If you explain exactly what you're looking for, I'm sure he can figure it out. He has told me, though, that he plans to be less active than an inactive user, so try [[Special:EmailUser/Beligaronia|email]] or his Wikipedia talk page for the fastest results. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 21:55, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

== I Still Don't Understand ==

EV Training still confuses me. . If I fought a Charizard, who gives 3SpAtk EVs, then what would happen? My Pokemon gets 3 extra points to their SpAtk? Does it have to level up? {{unsigned|ShinjiLover}}
:No, it doesn't help. Try beating other 83 Charizards to fill up your Sp.Atk EV max and then level up and see what happens. 252 EVs mean +63 of the stat ''AT LEVEL 100'', not at other levels. Ah, and try signing your comments with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 21:37, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

== Effort Values and Stat Experience ==

I saw that on the article it says that Effort Values were created in Gen. I, but weren't they created in Gen. III during the Data Structure Overhaul. The extra 63 points in the first 2 generations were determined by a hidden experience value for each stat value (max - 63,105 exp. points i think), and the amount of hidden exp. you get for a stat is equal to the opponent's base stat for that specific stat.

There is more evidence to support this then the EV theory. Like if you just caught a Lapras in, say, Pokémon Crystal,and you fight 4 Grimers. If the EV theory were correct, you would get 1 point in your HP stat after using the Box Trick, but instead multiple stats rise. Isn't that because each stat rises according to every 1000 points(or something)?

So I was just thinking to suggest that the EV info on Gen. I and II be moved to III, and create a link to a new page, Stat Experience? The SE theory sounds more correct then the EV one for Gens. I and II. What do you guys think? {{unsigned|Dark Boye}}

* In Generations I and II we called it Stat Experience. Nowadays they're called EVs. It's calculated differently now, but it's essentially the same thing - you get faster by fighting Jolteons, and more hit points by fighting Chanseys. I think it makes sense to say they're just different versions of the same thing - after all, as far as I know, both "stat XP" and "Effort Values" are just fan-created names. --[[User:JDigital|JDigital]] 05:14, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

==Stat-reducing Berries==
I'd like to note some things about the Stat Reducing Berries. The fact that they reduce EV's by 10 is correct, but I wanna note that when used on a stat above 100, the stat is reduced down to 100, then each subsequent use is 10 each. Once the berry starts failing, it's either due to the stat having no EV's, or an EV amount below 10. These berries are also very useful in changing a Pokemon's EV spread, a very good thing for an In-game team to make them more competitive.
Also, when used on a Level 100 Pokemon, they WILL reduce the stats, but because they can no longer level up, they cannot raise the stats back up via EV training.[[User:JoeTE|Joe T.E.]] 14:19, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

==Your questions are probably answered here...==
After reading this page, I found that there were a lot of complicated topics that weren't quite answered. Here're the most frequently asked questions answered:

What is EV training, and how is it good?
EV training is a method in which you train one Pokémon against a against a specific group of Pokémon in order to raise the Pokémon's stats. This would be like training a future sweeper against Jolteon so that the sweeper gets faster.

How do I EV train?
Personally, I EV train by finding trainers that have only one species of Pokémon, but others may prefer to train against wild Pokémon. Both methods are equally effective. A common one is PI Carlos just below Veilstone City. Because he has 3 Goldeen (which evolve into Seaking), he gives 3 (or 6) EV's throughout the course of one battle. Although you can have a maximum of 255 EV's in each stat, many trainers opt to put a maximum of 252 EV's in a stat. You can have a maximum of 510 EV's total (shared between stats), and every 4 EV's in a stat boost the stat at level 100 by 1 point.

What about Berries?
If you use a stat-reducing berry on a pokemon that has more than 100 EV's in a stat, it reduces that stat's EV's to 100. From 100 down, however, it reduces the EV's by 10. Kudos to Joe T. E.!

How do I squeeze the most out of EV training?
Ok, so this isn't really an FAQ, but I found some nice ideas to maximize your EV's. First off, putting EV's in a stat increased by nature can make its effect go up from +63 to +69, putting you "one point ahead" in the end!

Try my EV Optimizer here: http://masd.21classes.com/pub/MASD/DavidKo/Stat_Calculator.htm

[[User:PhoenixGraphix|Phoenix]] 22:30, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

:I'm still a little puzzeled, butI think I'm getting to understand EVs. Basically by the time I get to level 100 I'll HAVE to have my max EV numbers somewhere right? The only "EV training" is in aiming for those two max stats? Maybe use EV reducer berries to tweak. But after I get those EVs full and in a way I like them, that's all I can do, right? Timing of getting the EVs early/ect don't matter, right? The end result doesn't need babysitting from the very start it looks like/I hope?--[[User:Barakku|Barakku]] 05:06, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

::A Pokémon's stats are pre-calculated, but think of it like this: the difference between the Pokémon's stat now and their stat at level X divided by the number of levels between them equals the stat change. As an example, if a Pokémon's stat at level 100 would be 300, and it's level 99 with 290 as its stat, its next stat gain will be 10. As long as you get all of your EV's in before level 100, all of the EV's will be factored in. [[User:PhoenixGraphix|Phoenix]][[User_Talk:PhoenixGraphix|Graphix]][[Special:Contributions/PhoenixGraphix|™]] 02:23, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

== Partner Pokemon? ==

As it doesnt gain any exp, does a pokemon who kills the partner in a 2 on 2, i.e. through surf, would it gain evs?

Combee (Pokémon)

2009-05-29T10:45:44Z

Mattrules161: Changed egg cycles

{{PokémonPrevNext | type=bug | type2=flying | prevnum=414 | nextnum=416 | prev=Mothim | next=Vespiquen }}
{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Combee |
jname=ミツハニー |
tmname=Mitsuhoney |
image=ArtMitsuhoney.png |
caption=Artwork from Diamond/Pearl |
pron=<sc>com-bee</sc>|
ndex=415 |
sdex=053 |
adex=059 |
typen=2 |
type1=Bug |
type2=Flying |
species=Tiny Bee |
height-ftin=1'00" |
height-m=0.3 |
weight-lbs=12.1 |
weight-kg=5.5 |
abilityn=1 |
ability1=Honey Gather |
ability2= |
egggroupn=1 |
egggroup1=Bug |
egggroup2= |
eggcycles=17 |
evsp=1 |
expyield=63 |
lv100exp=1,059,860 |
gendercode=31|
color=Yellow |
catchrate=120 |
body=11 |
pokefordex= |
generation=4 |
footnotes= }}
'''Combee''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''ミツハニー''' ''Mitsuhoney'') is a dual-type {{2t|Bug|Flying}} Pokémon.

It [[Evolution|evolve]]s into {{p|Vespiquen}} starting at [[level]] 21, but only if it is female.

==Biology==
===Physiology===
Combee is a small insectoid Pokémon that resembles three pieces of orange, hexagonal honeycomb stuck together. Each hexagon has a round yellow face. The bottom-center face being the main thinker of the three is also the only one "bee" to have a full abdomen. The top two hexagons have a single antenna and a wing.

Since Combee is a Bee Pokémon, it has been considered as a distant cousin of the {{p|Weedle}} family, mainly {{p|Beedrill}}.

====Gender differences====
Male Combee are incapable of evolution. The lower face of a female Combee has a red spot on its forehead (which would become the red jewel on the head of a {{p|Vespiquen}}) and an open-mouth, smiling expression. The latter point may indicate more developed emotional and intellectual capabilities although as of {{game|Platinum}} male Combee can also exhibit this expression.

====Special abilities====
Combee can fly with its two wings as long as the top two "bees" co-ordinate their flapping. Combee's skills in battle are very limited, since it is only capable of learning three moves total. Using its wings it can {{m|Gust|whip up fast winds}} to attack and can also distract Pokémon with the {{m|Sweet Scent|sweet smell}} of its honey. More recently Combee and other {{type2|Bug}} Pokémon have been found to have the ability to {{m|Bug Bite|bite opponents and eat a berry they may be holding}}.

Another prominent talent of Combee is {{a|Honey Gather|honey gathering}}; finding a way to collect the sugary syrup from almost anywhere.

Through [[Move tutor|specialized training]] Combee are capable of learning a wider selection of attacks including {{m|Mud-Slap}} and {{m|Ominous Wind}}. However, it is clear from the nature of many of these attacks that they are beyond the natural capabilities of wild Combee.

Combee also have abilities untapped by {{pkmn|Trainer}}s. Only through the orders of a Combee's queen can its {{m|Attack Order|powerful attacking skills}}, {{m|Defend Order|strong defensive maneuvers}} and {{m|Heal Order|expertise in healing}} be unlocked.

===Behavior===
[[Image:Combee wall.png|left|thumb|A wall of Combee]]
Combee are mostly sociable among their own kind. They are generally harmless and when threatened will usually run away. A Combee will almost always be found collecting honey wherever they can.

The rare times they are not gathering honey, they are sleeping or protecting their queen {{p|Vespiquen}}. The former is done by creating a hive out of themselves and other Combee, locking together and feeling safe in larger numbers.

Combee are very suggestible creatures and will never defy the orders of its queen. When a Vespiquen feels threatened, its subject Combee will not think twice about risking their own lives and forming a ''Combee wall'' to protect the queen, then attacking and even killing the threat in an aggressive manner.

===Habitat===
Combee will commonly make residence in caves and hollow trees of forests and other natural, secluded areas with their queen {{p|Vespiquen}}. When a group of Combee aren't being led by a queen, they will usually create a make-shift hive (out of their own bodies) anywhere they feel safe.

===Diet===
{{main|Pokémon food}}
The honey that Combee collect are used for multiple things, but its main use is to be eaten.

==In the anime==
[[Image:Combee anime.png|right|thumb|Combee in the anime]]
Combee made an appearance in ''[[DP032|An Angry Combeenation]]''.

Several Combee made minor appearances living in the gardens of [[Alamos Town]] in ''[[The Rise of Darkrai]]''.

==In the manga==
A girl ordered her multiple Combee to attack {{Special|Diamond}}, {{Special|Pearl}}, and {{Special|Platinum}}.

==In the TCG==
{{main|Combee (TCG)}}

==Game data==
===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex
|type=bug
|type2=flying
|gen=4
|diamonddex=A Pokémon formed by three others. It busily carries sweet floral honey to {{P|Vespiquen}}.
|pearldex=It collects and delivers honey to its colony. At night, they cluster to form a beehive and sleep.
|platinumdex=The trio is together from birth. It constantly gathers honey from flowers to please Vespiquen.
}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability|
type=bug |
type2=flying |
gen=4 |
dprarity=Common |
dparea=[[Honey]] trees |
ptrarity=Common |
ptarea=[[Honey]] trees |
}}

====In side games====
{{SidegameAvail
|type=Bug
|type2=Flying
|md2=[[Apple Woods]] (6F-12F)
|ranger2=[[Vien Forest]] [[Chroma Road]]
|ranch=Random trade with [[Hayley]] {{tt|*|Available for transfer to Diamond and Pearl.}}
}}

Combee will not appear in Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Darkness until a rescue mission involving it has been completed, using the following Wonder Mail code:
:X5&F @YKQ 0-70
:@FWH 0FX& P8Y9
:Objective: Rescue Combee on floor 6 of [[Apple Woods]].

===Base stats===
{{BaseStats|
type=bug |
type2=flying |
HP=30 |
Attack=30 |
Defense=42 |
SpAtk=30 |
SpDef=42 |
Speed=70 }}

===Type effectiveness===
{{DP type effectiveness|
type1=bug|
type2=flying|

Normal= 100 |
Fighting=25 |
Flying= 200 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 0 |
Rock= 400 |
Bug= 50 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 200 |
Water= 100 |
Grass= 25 |
Electric=200 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 200 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 |

notes=yes|
flying=yes|
newground=½}}

===Learnset===
{{learnset intro|Combee}}
====By [[level|leveling up]]====
{{movelist|bug|flying|4|4|Combee}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Gust|Flying|Special|40|100|35|Smart|3||'''}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Sweet Scent|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|13|Bug Bite|Bug|Physical|60|100|20|Tough|0||'''|Pt}}
{{movelist/note|4|bug|flying}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
None.

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
None.

====By [[Move tutor|tutoring]]====
{{tutor|bug|flying|4a|4|Combee}}
{{mtentry4a|Air Cutter|Flying|Special|55|95|25|Cool|3||'''|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Endeavor|Normal|Physical|—|100|5|Tough|2|||no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Mud-Slap|Ground|Special|20|100|10|Cute|3|||no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Ominous Wind|Ghost|Special|60|100|5|Smart|0|||no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Snore|Normal|Special|40|100|15|Cute|3|||no|yes}}
{{mtentry4a|Swift|Normal|Special|60|—|20|Cool|2|||no|yes}}
{{tutor/note|4|bug|flying}}

===Side game data===

{{Side game|
type=bug |
ndex=415 |
Dungeon2=yes |
body2=1 |
rate2=6.4% |
iq=A |
Ranger2=yes |
typeG2= Bug |
typeA2= Flying |
field2= Cut |
field2power= 1 |
browser2= It lets loose gusts of wind to attack. |
}}

===Evolution===
{{evobox/1|Spr 4p 415 f|Combee|2|Bug|Flying|[[Level|Level 21]] ([[Female]])|416|Vespiquen|2|Bug|Flying}}

===Sprites===
{{Sprite|
type=bug|
type2=flying|
gen=4|
gender=both|
ndex=415|
name=Combee|
}}

==Trivia==
*Combee is the only Pokémon species in which two genders exist where only the female can evolve.
*Combee has three heads like {{p|Magneton}}, {{p|Dodrio}} and {{p|Dugtrio}}; however, unlike the other three, it cannot learn {{m|Tri Attack}}.
===Origin===
Combee is based on {{wp|honeycomb}}s, and {{wp|honeybee}}s.
====Name origin====
Combee's English name is derived from ''honeycomb'' and ''bee''. Its name also bears a similarity to "combination", possibly referring to the fact that it is made of three parts. Its Japanese name may derive from 蜜蜂 ''mitsubachi'', honey bee, 蜂蜜, ''hachimitsu'', honey, 三つ ''mittsu'', three, referring to the number of its honeycomb-like features, and the English ''honey''.

==In other languages==
*[[List of German Pokémon names|German]]: Wadribie - From ''Wabe'' (honeycomb), ''Drei'' (three), and ''Biene'' (bee).
*[[List of French Pokémon names|French]]: Apitrini - From ''apis'' (Latin for bee) and ''trinity''.
*[[List of Korean Pokémon names|Korean]]: 세꿀버리 ''Se-ggul-bury'' - Combination of 셋 ''set'' (three), 꿀 ''ggul'' (honey), and 벌 ''bur'' (bee).
*[[List of Chinese Pokémon names|Chinese]]: 三頭小蜂

==External links==

{{PokémonPrevNext | type=bug | type2=flying | prevnum=414 | nextnum=416 | prev=Mothim | next=Vespiquen }}

{{Project Pokédex notice}}
[[Category:Pokémon that evolve based on gender]]
[[de:Wadribie]]

[[fr:Apitrini]]
[[ja:ミツハニー]]
[[pt:Combee (pokémon)]]

Talk:Plusle (Pokémon)

2009-05-29T10:30:32Z

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== Incomplete learnset? ==

I think Plusle and Minun are lacking some moves in their articles, such as Fake Tears. I've not trained these Pokémon, but some Pokémon sites and the Prima guide mention them. And I've seen some non-playable Plusle & Minun using Fake Tears before. --[[User:Johans|Johans]] 03:26, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
:Well, I might look into it this weekend, as I still have my Pokémon Emerald version. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 22:24, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

==Brawl?==

Were is all of this "IT was gunna bee in brawl" stuff from? Sounds like Horse feathers to me. [[User:Cerberus|Cerberus]] 21:46, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:A couple words. Data in Brawl. [[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[Special:Contributions/TinaTheKirlia|☆]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]]{{ani|281}} 21:51, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Show me. [[User:Cerberus|Cerberus]] 23:25, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:It was written in the data, not shown in videos. // [[User talk:Szayel Aporro|'''''SzayelAporroGranz''''']][[Image:Ani282MS.gif]] 23:31, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
::Actually, Someone on Nsider2 with a Japanese Translator proved that the data that everyone thought was Plusle and Minun, (Pra Mai, if anyone wants to know.) Actually translates to "Every Player" People are trying to decide if that is Random, or Mii's, of all things. [[Image:Ani197MS.gif]][[User:Midnight Celtic|Midnight Celtic]][[Image:Ani148MS.gif]] 23:59, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Agread it could have been Mii. [[User:Cerberus|Cerberus]] 00:23, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

== Plusle and Minun=Mario and Luigi? ==

Mario wears red and Luigi wears green. Plusle is red and and a Shiny Minun is green. I'm I the only one who sees a connection here?--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 20:21, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

== Egg Steps ==

I think something is wrong as it says 0 egg cycles, 0 steps to hatch, and -1 for generation 3. What is the actual number of steps so i can correct--[[User:Mattrules161|Mattrules161]] 10:30, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Dialga (Pokémon)

2009-05-28T12:48:32Z

Mattrules161: /* Trivia? */

== Most resistances ==
Hmm, Dialga does not have the most resistances, the Magnemite and its evolutions do, with one immunity and twelve resistances, two of them being doubly strong, albeit having more weaknesses. I'll make a change.

== Japanese pronunciation ==
Why do you people believe it's japanese name is "Dialga" when it's really Diaruga? Unsigned comment by {{u|IDeoxys}}
:Same thing. Dialga is the romanized version.--[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|ElectAbuzzzz]] 19:38, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

:Diaruga is how it's pronounced, but the official Nintendo romanization is Dialga. --'''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 23:45, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

:Remember that ル is how Japanese people write "l" and "ru"; despite the fact that they are limited in writing, they pronounce "l" - just with an accent. [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 13:24, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

== Capture Dialga ==

Dialga is realy hard to catch {{unsigned|23water23|12:20, 6 September 2007}}

:Dialga and Palkia are the easiest legendaries to catch. I caught my Dialga in the first turn with a Quick Ball. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 12:43, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

:Are you kidding me?? All I had to do is change the clock to make it "night" and I caught Palkia with a Dusk Ball. Never waste your Master Ball on something like Dialga or Palkia. [[User:Dialgarules|Dialgarules]] 22:17, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

It's funny, cuz everyone wastes their master ball on him, when you should use it on Regigigas, or Cresselia. [[User:LordKaien|LordKaien]] 20:22, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
:I still have my masterball, I caught palkia with a pokeball (no lie, he was asleep with no health left)[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|C is for Cookie]] 20:29, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
::From my experiance, Dialga and {{p|Palkia}} is the most easiest legendary to capture. Never, ever, ever use a Master Ball. A huge waste. [[User:DragonTamer|DragonTamer]] 06:49, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Anybody know that Dialga and Palkia have the same catch rate as a Chatot? {{u|Uxie Legend}} 13:16, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

==Unique levels to be found at.==
This was recently removed from the trivia section on this page: "* Dialga and {{p|Palkia}} are the only two legends who's levels are not a multiple of 10. Meaning, you meet all other legends at levels 30,40,50 and so on, but those two you meet at Lv. 47."
It was removed because Kyogre and Groudon are both found at level 45. My question then is, couldn't we just change the 10 to a 5 in that quote and keep it on the page? --[[User:Ozzie|Ozzie]] 21:39, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
:Well, if the trivia item was spelled that wrong, what with "who's" instead of the correct "whose" and a "you" or two in there, I can see why it was removed. It's an interesting bit of trivia, though, that D and P are the only legends met at a level that isn't an even multiple of 5. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:17, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

:In platinum, Giratina will be found at level 47 aswell [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 13:32, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

:I decided to put up the aforementioned fact about Dialga and Palkia's levels. I put it like this:
"Dialga and {{p|Palkia}} are the first legendary Pokémon to be seen at a level that is not divisible by 5, appearing at Level 47." [[User:SharKing|SharKing]] 03:28, 24 August 2008 (UTC)SharKing
::I changed First to only[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|DCM]]
:I disagree with that. Like Kanjo said, Giratina will be at 47 in Platinum. [[User:SharKing|SharKing]] 22:37, 24 August 2008 (UTC)SharKing
::Site your sources.Rayquaza was found at level 70 compared to whatever level Groudon adn Kyogre were found in ther respective games[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|DCM]]
:::Umm....{{p|Regigigas}} in Platinum... [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 22:23, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

==Trivia==
Here it says that Celebi can control the time, but Celebi just can TRAVEL in the time. Dialga is the only pokemon that can control the time (unless Arceus also can) --[[User:Nick.|Nick.]] 21:27, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
:The only way to be able to travel through time is to control it...•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 21:30, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

should we mention the fact that dialga becomes primal dialga when it loses control over time in Pokémon time explorers in the trivia?--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 14:34, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

== Catch Rate? ==

It says it the Trivia Section that [[Palkia (Pokémon)|Palkia]], Dialga, and [[Phione]], are the legendary that has the highest catch rate. But what about [[Shaymin (Pokémon)|Shaymin]]? It has a catch rate of 45!
[[User:Palkia38|Palkia38]] 03:43, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

:Well, its weird that {{p|Giratina}} is harder to catch than Dialga or {{p|Palkia}}. Weirder still, there are still other weak pokémon that is harder to catch. [[User:DragonTamer|DragonTamer]]

== Origin ==

Should we put {{wp|Kan-Laon}} because it is similar to dialga --[[User:Bakunawa|Bakunawa]] 07:11, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

: Kan-Laon is a deity of time in the {{wp|Philippine mythology}}. And yourname, {{wp|Bakunawa}} is a Philippine dragon that was said to swallow the moon! Dude, are you a Filipino? Looks like I've found a friend! Me a Filipino too! Mabuhay ang {{wp|Pilipinas}}!^_^[[User:Palkia38|Palkia38]] 09:29, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
::There don't seem to be ''any'' similarities besides the fact that Dialga and Kan-Laon are both time deities, so I don't see why we should.—[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 00:41, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

== Browser entry? ==

How is its browser entry currently unknown? Surely someone can extract it, plus Palkia and Shaymin's entries, from the game's data? Y'know, like what's done to find out base stats? I would be glad to do this, if I knew how. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 12:55, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Dialga (Pokémon)

2009-05-28T12:46:05Z

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