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User talk:Marche9th

2022-11-01T10:49:31Z

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==Signing==
When posting on talk pages, please remember to sign your comments, you can do this by adding ~ 4 times in a row.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]], Junior Admin Bulbapedia ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 10:01, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
:I'll work on building the habit. I *think* I only missed it once, and I went back and added the unsigned template as the FAQ mentioned. Cheers [[User:Marche9th|Marche9th]] ([[User talk:Marche9th|talk]]) 10:49, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

== Hey ==

I feel a bit bad about how I may have come across earlier, and just wanted to say thank you for talking with me. I also wanted to be clear that you're not in trouble and didn't necessarily do anything wrong. I hope you choose to stick around. [[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']] 10:12, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
:No worries! I know you're just enforcing and clarifying rules/conventions. It's just challenging to deal with "How this wiki SHOULD function" vs "How people who only interact with this wiki via highly specific google searches have used it in the past week" since the conventions are obviously based on the former. [[User:Marche9th|Marche9th]] ([[User talk:Marche9th|talk]]) 10:47, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

User talk:Marche9th

2022-11-01T10:47:45Z

Marche9th: /* Hey */

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==Signing==
When posting on talk pages, please remember to sign your comments, you can do this by adding ~ 4 times in a row.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]], Junior Admin Bulbapedia ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 10:01, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

== Hey ==

I feel a bit bad about how I may have come across earlier, and just wanted to say thank you for talking with me. I also wanted to be clear that you're not in trouble and didn't necessarily do anything wrong. I hope you choose to stick around. [[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']] 10:12, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
:No worries! I know you're just enforcing and clarifying rules/conventions. It's just challenging to deal with "How this wiki SHOULD function" vs "How people who only interact with this wiki via highly specific google searches have used it in the past week" since the conventions are obviously based on the former. [[User:Marche9th|Marche9th]] ([[User talk:Marche9th|talk]]) 10:47, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

User talk:Landfish7/Archive 3

2022-11-01T09:36:31Z

Marche9th: /* Reverting a comment about Night Shade */

* [[User talk:Landfish7/Archive 1|Archive 1]] (15 January 2009 - 9 August 2010)
* [[User talk:Landfish7/Archive 2|Archive 2]] (14 November 2010 - 5 May 2011)
Welcome to my talk page. Please leave a message, or DM me on discord at '''@taylatt7a#4753'''. Thank you! [[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]

== Editing comments ==

I did not see anything on [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Bulbapedia:Talk_page_policy Talk page policy] that explicitly disallows editing comments. I'm confused as to why you keep reverting them. [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 04:35, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
:Nevermind, I've searched and it is indeed a rule. I'll keep this in mind for the future. [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 04:45, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

== Update Page with Up-To-Date Upcoming Episodes (ASAP) ==

All the episodes listed are out of date. Could you or someone please fix this by display upcoming current episodes that are coming and up to date (like the ones coming this week)? Also, could you do this for all the channels and locations?

FYI, I already posted a message on the page, but there are no new comments.

https://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Upcoming_anime {{unsigned|Macpika}}
:The news page is being moved to another location, so it's no longer being updated. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 22:50, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
::Also, Macpika, please try to keep your discussions in one place. If a discussion goes several days without being addressed, you can bump the discussion by leaving a new comment. Please avoid clogging up the Recent Changes with multiple discussions in multiple places, as this is not only confusing and hard to keep track of, but it can cause unnecessary strain on the servers. Furthermore, FinnishPokéFan92 already answered you in the discussion you started on [[User talk:Force Fire|Force Fire's talk page]] once and it doesn't need to be discussed any further.

::Additionally, please remember to sign your comments with four tildes <code><nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></code> so that it leaves the proper timestamp. [[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']] 23:00, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

Thanks. I thought I did add the tildes. [[User:Macpika|Macpika]] ([[User talk:Macpika|talk]]) 00:21, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
:Please do not replace the unsigned template, as it leaves the incorrect timestamp. Also, when you [[Bulbapedia:Talk page policy|reply]] to a section, please [[Bulbapedia:Wikicode#Text formatting|indent your comments]] to indicate that you are making a reply and to distinguish them from the previous comments. Thank you. [[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']] 00:29, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

== The Preview Button ==
Instead of editing a page several times in a row, try using the preview button to make sure your edit looks the way you want it to. It's right next to the Save Page button. Please try it out, so as not to clog up the Recent Changes. Also, if you want to edit multiple sections of the page, make sure that you click "edit this page" at the top of the page rather than editing it by section. Thanks! --'''''[[User:Bfdifan2006|Bfdifan2006]]''''' ([[User talk:Bfdifan2006|T]]/[[Special:Contribs/Bfdifan2006|C]]) 17:43, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
:I understand. I just got really confused about the tensing situation and couldn't decide what to do. Every time I thought I had it right, I changed my mind. I'll be more careful moving forward. [[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']] 19:29, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
::Instead of editing a page and then immediately changing your mind to undo the edit you just made, try using the preview button to make sure your edit looks the way you want it to. Please try it out, so as not to clog up the Recent Changes. Thanks! [[User:Atrius97|Atrius97]] ([[User talk:Atrius97|talk]]) 05:51, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

== Preview button template ==

When you want to use the {{template|Preview button}} template, '''always''' use it with {{User:Bfdifan2006/code|subst:}}, so not {{User:Bfdifan2006/code|{{<nowiki/>Preview button}}}}, but {{User:Bfdifan2006/code|{{subst:<nowiki/>Preview button}}}}. --'''''[[User:Bfdifan2006|Bfdifan2006]]''''' ([[User talk:Bfdifan2006|T]]/[[Special:Contribs/Bfdifan2006|C]]) 07:15, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
:I understand that, I just somehow forgot to the past few times. Hence why I fixed it. No need to remind me when I clearly understood my mistake and fixed it. [[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']] 07:55, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

== Reverting ==
Why are you reverting me? A page for the Season of Heritage is not needed, because all the information is already [[Season (GO)#Season of Heritage|here]]. [[User:CrazyPikmin|CrazyPikmin]] ([[User talk:CrazyPikmin|talk]]) 08:11, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
:Fixed. Remember to use the [[Template:DL|DL template]] to link to the proper section. As for your other edits, we can move this to {{DL|User talk:CrazyPikmin|Redlinks|the discussion}} I already started on your talk page as to keep everything in one place. [[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']] 08:19, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

== Re: Preview ==

I know about the preview button, the problem is that, the server of Bulbapedia are collapsing for periods of time and i cant edite for long time, im sorry
--[[User:Grizzlyring123|Grizzlyring123]] ([[User talk:Grizzlyring123|talk]]) 00:21, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
:For anyone reading this, please follow the discussion [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:Grizzlyring123#The_Preview_Button here]. '''Do not reply here.''' [[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']] 05:11, 15 June 2022 (UTC)

== Talk ==

How to add images in Trivia [[User:AlolanRanger|AlolanRanger]] ([[User talk:AlolanRanger|talk]]) 11:43, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

== Why you ==

Why you remove my trivia from JN118 that nothing is wrong about Ash Battle and Tracey last main series in BW142 and his last physical appearance in DP001
Don't remove my trivia without reason [[User:AlolanRanger|AlolanRanger]] ([[User talk:AlolanRanger|talk]]) 07:10, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
:I reverted the trivia because they were poorly constructed, unclear in what they were saying, and didn't seem necessary or notable. Please refer to the messages that have been left on your talk page about this. I highly recommend taking a break from adding unnotable/poorly written trivia and instead focus on editing other areas of the mainspace. I also recommend making sure that you are using the preview button and that your edits meet [[MOS|Bulbapedia's standards]]. [[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']] 07:19, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

== why low ==

you didn't explain properly
Leon's charizard is proven to be powerful to take on Flint's Infernape as we saw past it took out Ash pokemon in the past and took on Cythina's garmchomp. Leon took Alain charizard and mega evolve form without munch difficulties at all. you see how I explain. Makes jokes about my grammar but I did my best to explain his power {{unsigned|Gian9456}}
:Your edits should always have proper capitalization, punctuation, and grammar. You cannot expect other people to clean up your edits for you. Also, your additions were kind of opinionated/subjective and didn't seem necessary. I highly suggest you read the [[manual of style]] and remember to use the preview button to make sure your edits are satisfactory before saving changes, otherwise people will continue to either revert your comments or be forced to fix them for you. You also need to start signing your signature properly, as you consistently fail to do so. It's just four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) or you can press the signature button. Thank you. [[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']] 00:28, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

==Blurbs==
Please do not add a hidden sic to blurbs, the blurbs are there to posted as written, spelling error or no spelling error--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 09:11, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
:Got it. [[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']] 09:11, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

== What was the issues ==

Np one is explaining at all about my grammar this time
what is the issues
But not getting reason why it was deleted. Why did you not like it. What is the issues.
Also you kept the message part in but not the rest. Interesting this kept this time. Not others {{unsigned|Gian9456}}
:Please keep the conversation in one place. Any further comments should be made [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:Gian9456#Edit_conflict here]. [[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']] 23:26, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
::But its the truth how can it be wrong its fact. he proven to be so strong he the ace pokemon of his team. if u watch the show u have seen his proof that he is most powerful pokemon. {{unsigned|Gian9456}}
:::I didn't get response why he not proven this great power {{unsigned|Gian9456}}

== Rocket Brothers and Sisters ==
Do you mind renaming the page at all? Thanks! --[[User:Quixochitl|Quixochitl]] ([[User talk:Quixochitl|talk]]) 18:43, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
:The page can only be moved with staff approval. I'd propose the move on the {{redlink|Talk:Rocket Brothers|talk page for Rocket Brothers}}, or ask an active [[Bulbapedia:staff|staff member]] directly for approval. Once approved, I'd be more than happy to help with the move. I'd also suggest adding the [[template:move|move template]] to the top of the article. [[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']] 18:50, 12 September 2022 (UTC)

== Belly-button dynamo ==
I saw you edit 'belly-button dynamo' to 'belly button dynamo', and I do agree that when talking about belly buttons that would be correct. However, my source when writing it was the official Scarlet and Violet site which referred to the specific organ as its "belly-button dynamo". I guess what I am asking is if official sources or grammar should count the most in such scenarios. [[User:Petrichor|Petrichor]] ([[User talk:Petrichor|talk]]) 21:10, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
:You'll see that even the site uses both "belly-button" and "belly button" where the first is an adjective and the second is a noun. Quoting the site, "Its Belly-Button Dynamo Produces [...] an organ that looks like a belly button." The site uses these grammatically correctly, that is "belly-button" for the adjectival form and "belly button" for the noun form. The page currently matches this as well, "resembles a belly button [...] Bellibolt's belly-button dynamo" [[User:Exempt-Medic|Exempt-Medic]] ([[User talk:Exempt-Medic|talk]]) 21:28, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
::I did not edit "belly-button dynamo" to "belly button dynamo". Please double-check [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Bellibolt_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&diff=prev&oldid=3586014 the difference between revisions]. I changed "belly-button" to "belly button". Belly button was being used as a noun here, and so there is no hyphen. I already know that it's belly-button dynamo, where belly-button is an adjective. I even said in the edit summary that belly-button is an adjectival form. Thank you. [[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']] 23:33, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

== Etiquette ==

This is a couple of days late, but I'd appreciate it if you would refrain from insulting me. I was simply pointing out that the hypothetical presented by Force Fire felt a bit strange, and you even presented one of your own when you responded to me. I was not advocating for the page to be mainspaced or anything. [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 10:16, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
:I do not recall insulting you. I merely decided that it was no longer worth dwelling on Force Fire's hypothetical, as I felt it was not productive to the conversation. I apologize if I came across as blunt or harsh. That was not my intent. [[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']] 10:33, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
::Upon a second look I realize "pedantic" was the wrong word to use. I wanted to convey that I felt the focus on Force Fire's hypothesis was a bit nitpicky and unhelpful, but I understand how the word I used could be insulting. I apologize. [[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']] 10:38, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
:::That being said, if you felt the word "pedantic" was insulting, then using it right back at me was not what I would consider a mature or appropriate response. Please consider that. Two wrongs don't make a right.
:::Now how about we both agree to just be more mindful and to make an effort to be more polite moving forward so we can get back to focusing on improving the wiki. Thank you. [[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']] 10:50, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
::::You could have gotten your point across without the "This is just x" sentence entirely, but I acknowledge that my response was not the most polite one and I apologize. [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 11:47, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

== Reverting a comment about Night Shade ==

Hi, you reverted a comment on the Night Shade talk page regarding its ability to hit Shedinja through Wonder Guard. I believe you did so feeling that it conflicted with this rule: "Please check the dates of a discussion before you reply to it. Unless an old conversation is still relevant and there is a good reason to revitalize discussion, comments on sections older than six months old should not be made. If the problems cited in the previous comments have already been cleared up, any new comments may be removed."

The comment it responded to is one of only two results that come up when looking up the interaction, and the definitive-sounding answer it gives is false. The question has come up multiple times recently due to the current popularity of the IronMon Randomizer challenge, and this incorrect answer has been cited several times, so I felt it would be helpful to add the reply despite the comment's age.{{unsigned|Marche9th}}
:Talk pages are for discussing changes to the main article. If you are requesting a specific change or addition to the article, its better to start a new discussion at the bottom of the page. Thank you. [[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']] 09:27, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
::Is there no recourse for false information posted in the talk page itself, then? As long as it shows up in search engine results and is stated as fact, it will continue to mislead people. Not that I'm saying there are any dire consequences here, but it's also not hard to fix by just adding a correction, there just doesn't seem to be an appropriate way to do so here. [[User:Marche9th|Marche9th]] ([[User talk:Marche9th|talk]]) 09:35, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

User talk:Landfish7/Archive 3

2022-11-01T09:26:16Z

Marche9th: /* Reverting a comment about Night Shade */

User talk:Landfish7/Archive 3

2022-11-01T09:21:24Z

Marche9th: /* Reverting a comment about Night Shade */ new section

Talk:Night Shade (move)

2022-11-01T06:17:19Z

Marche9th: /* Intro */

Could Night Shade be considered a variation of Seismic Toss (or vice versa)?
:I don't think they're variations, on the strictest sense of the definition by this wiki. Their PP differs. They are largely similar moves, however. --[[User:DarkfireTaimatsu|DarkfireTaimatsu]] 20:38, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

One thing that should be noted: Despite being a Ghost-type move, it can't damage Shedinja. Possibly because Night Shade can't deal super-effective damage, and Wonder Guard will prevent direct damage from any attack that isn't super-effective against Shedinja. [[User:Diachronos|Diachronos]] 16:25, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
:I have confirmed that this is not true, at least in Heart Gold. Night Shade will hit Shedinja successfully. [[User:Marche9th|Marche9th]] ([[User talk:Marche9th|talk]]) 06:17, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

== Shuppet can learn it ==

Today i got a shuppet from spooky manor, here's a screenshot of it: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/847/unledmmt.png/ {{unsigned|Ninask46}}
:Shuppet naturally learn Night Shade at Level 8 in Black & White, it's not special that it is also known by Shuppet from the Dream World. - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] - 22:14, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
::Wait, so should it get removed? I've seen other dream world moves that the pokemon can naturally learn also put under the "By event" category. I also realize my title is misleading, if that's what you mean... heheh. [[User:Ninask46|Ninask46]] 22:26, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
:::Natural moves shouldn't be listed as an event/special move unless the Pokémon in question is granted at a level '''below''' the level needed for the move to be learned naturally. Example: Guardian Signs ''Lv 50'' Deoxys (Speed Forme) knowing Extremespeed, which it learns at ''Lv 97'' in Gen IV. - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] - 22:56, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
::::Ah, Ok, got it. Sorry for the mix-up. This information is still useful for the "spooky manor" article. heh, maybe i should've posted this there. ಠ_ಠ [[User:Ninask46|Ninask46]] 23:18, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

==Formula==

Is there a formula for this move? it would be pretty useful to know the amount of power it deals. It would also make the page look neater. [[User:Plokool|Plokool]] 04:15, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
:From the article: "Night Shade inflicts damage equal to the user's level.". [[User:Bluesun|Bluesun]] 04:37, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

I think what Plokool means is, does it inflict take off the same number of HP as the user's level, or is the base power just modified to match that of the level? Something I've at least been wondering for a while[[User:Green Zubat|Green Zubat]] ([[User talk:Green Zubat|talk]]) 05:27, 18 November 2012 (UTC)