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Dunsparce (Information Pack promo)

2011-06-28T20:58:37Z

Magikarp123193: Whoops, forgot to change this.

{{TCG Unreleased}}
{{PokémoncardInfobox |
cardname=Dunsparce |
jname=ノコッチ |
jtrans=Nokocchi |
image=DunsparceInformationPackpromo.jpg |
caption=Illus. [[Atsuko Nishida]] |
species=Dunsparce |
evostage=Basic |
type=Colorless |
level=14 |
hp=40 |
weakness=Fighting |
resistance=Psychic |
retreatcost=1 |
}}
{{PokémoncardInfobox/Expansion|type=Colorless|jpexpansion={{TCG|Unnumbered Promotional cards}}}}
{{PokémoncardInfobox/Footer|type=Colorless|species=Dunsparce}}

'''Dunsparce''' (Japanese: '''ノコッチ''' ''Nokocchi'') is a {{ct|Colorless}} Basic Pokémon card. It was released as a Japanese promotional card.

==Card text==
{{TCGAttack |
type=Colorless |
position=Top |
cost={{e|Colorless}} |
name=Paralyzing Gaze |
jname=にらむ |
jtrans=Glower |
damage= |
effect=Flip a coin. If heads, the Defending Pokémon is now {{TCG|Paralyzed}}. |
}}
{{TCGAttack |
type=Colorless |
position=Bottom |
cost={{e|Colorless}}{{e|Colorless}} |
name=Drill Tail |
jname=ドリルしっぽ |
jtrans=Drill Tail |
damage=10+ |
effect=Flip a coin. If heads, this attack does 10 damage plus 20 more damage. |
}}

===Pokédex data===
{{Carddex |
type=Colorless |
name=Dunsparce |
species=Land Snake |
ndex=206 |
height=4'11" |
jheight=1.5 |
weight=30.9 |
jweight=14 |
transdex=If spotted, it escapes by burrowing with its tail. It can float just slightly using its wings. |
jdex=誰かに姿を見られると、しっぽであなをほって逃げだす。羽で少しだけうかべる。 |
}}

==Release information==
In Japan, this card was released in the first volume of the Pokémon Information Pack in January 2001. The text on the bottom of the card border reads "''Information Pack extra card #1.''"

==Trivia==
===Origin===
This card's [[Pokédex]] entry comes from {{game|Silver}}.

{{Project TCG notice}}

[[Category:Promotional cards]]
[[Category:Illus. by Atsuko Nishida]]

[[ja:ノコッチ (プロモーションカード)]]

Dunsparce (Information Pack promo)

2011-06-28T20:57:27Z

Magikarp123193: WROOONG! (Sorry; YouTube Poop joke.)

{{TCG Unreleased}}
{{PokémoncardInfobox |
cardname=Dunsparce |
jname=ノコッチ |
jtrans=Nokocchi |
image=DunsparceInformationPackpromo.jpg |
caption=Illus. [[Atsuko Nishida]] |
species=Dunsparce |
evostage=Basic |
type=Colorless |
level=14 |
hp=40 |
weakness=Fighting |
resistance=Psychic |
retreatcost=1 |
}}
{{PokémoncardInfobox/Expansion|type=Colorless|jpexpansion={{TCG|Unnumbered Promotional cards}}}}
{{PokémoncardInfobox/Footer|type=Colorless|species=Dunsparce}}

'''Dunsparce''' (Japanese: '''ノコッチ''' ''Nokocchi'') is a {{ct|Colorless}} Basic Pokémon card. It was released as a Japanese promotional card.

==Card text==
{{TCGAttack |
type=Colorless |
position=Top |
cost={{e|Colorless}} |
name=Paralyzing Gaze |
jname=にらむ |
jtrans=Glower |
damage= |
effect=Flip a coin. If heads, the Defending Pokémon is now {{TCG|Paralyzed}}. |
}}
{{TCGAttack |
type=Colorless |
position=Bottom |
cost={{e|Colorless}}{{e|Colorless}} |
name=Drill Tail |
jname=ドリルしっぽ |
jtrans=Drill Tail |
damage=10+ |
effect=Flip a coin. If heads, this attack does 10 damage plus 20 more damage. |
}}

===Pokédex data===
{{Carddex |
type=Colorless |
name=Dunsparce |
species=Land Snake |
ndex=206 |
height=4'11" |
jheight=1.5 |
weight=30.9 |
jweight=14 |
transdex=If spotted, it escapes by burrowing with its tail. It can float just slightly using its wings. |
jdex=誰かに姿を見られると、しっぽであなをほって逃げだす。羽で少しだけうかべる。 |
}}

==Release information==
In Japan, this card was released in the first volume of the Pokémon Information Pack in January 2001. The text on the bottom of the card border reads "''Information Pack extra card #2.''"

==Trivia==
===Origin===
This card's [[Pokédex]] entry comes from {{game|Silver}}.

{{Project TCG notice}}

[[Category:Promotional cards]]
[[Category:Illus. by Atsuko Nishida]]

[[ja:ノコッチ (プロモーションカード)]]

Mankey (Jungle 55)

2011-06-27T18:26:14Z

Magikarp123193: /* Release information */ misleading link

{{PokémoncardInfobox |
cardname=Mankey |
level=7 |
jname=マンキー |
jtrans=Mankey |
image=MankeyJungle55.jpg‎ |
caption={{TCG|Jungle}} print Illus. [[Kagemaru Himeno]] |
reprints=2 |
reprint1=MankeyHowIBecamePokémonCardPromo.jpg |
recaption1=Promotional print Illus. [[Kagemaru Himeno]] |
species=Mankey |
evostage=Basic |
type=Fighting |
hp=30 |
weakness=Psychic |
resistance=None |
retreatcost=0 |
}}
{{PokémoncardInfobox/Expansion|type=Fighting|expansion={{TCG|Jungle}}|rarity={{rar|Common}}|cardno=55/64|jpexpansion={{TCG|Pokémon Jungle}}|jprarity={{rar|Common}}}}
{{PokémoncardInfobox/Expansion|type=Fighting|jpexpansion={{TCG|Unnumbered Promotional cards}}}}
{{PokémoncardInfobox/Expansion|type=Fighting|gbset={{GB|1|Mystery}}|gbid=C28|gb2set={{GB|2|Island of Fossil}}|gb2id=C34}}
{{PokémoncardInfobox/Expansion|type=Fighting|gb2set2={{GB|2|Promotional}}|gb2id2=P21}}
{{PokémoncardInfobox/Footer|type=Fighting|species=Mankey}}

'''Mankey''' (Japanese: '''マンキー''' ''Mankey'') is a {{ct|Fighting}} Basic Pokémon card. It is part of the {{TCG|Jungle}} expansion.

==Card text==
{{TCGPower |
powertype=Pokémon Power |
type=Fighting |
position=Top |
name=Peek |
jname=スパイ |
jtrans=Spy |
effect=Once during your turn ''(before your attack)'', you may look at one of the following: the top card of either player's deck, a random card from your opponent's hand, or one of either player's Prizes. This power can't be used if {{tt|Mankey|this Pokémon}} is {{TCG|Asleep}}, {{TCG|Confused}}, or {{TCG|Paralyzed}}. |
}}
{{TCGAttack |
type=Fighting |
position=Bottom |
cost={{e|Colorless}} |
name=Scratch |
jname=ひっかく |
jtrans=Scratch |
damage=10 |
effect= |
}}

===Pokédex data===
{{Carddex |
type=Fighting |
name=Mankey |
species=Pig Monkey |
ndex=056 |
height=1'8" |
jheight=0.5 |
weight=62 |
jweight=28 |
dex=Extremely quick to anger. It could be docile one moment, then thrashing away the next. |
jdex=身のこなしが軽く、狂暴な性格。怒って暴れると手がつけられなくなる。 |
transdex=Light and agile on its feet, and ferocious in temperament. When angered, it flies into an uncontrollable frenzy. |
}}

==Release information==
This card was originally released in the {{TCG|Jungle}} expansion with artwork by [[Kagemaru Himeno]]. It was later reprinted with new artwork by the same artist in Japan as a promotional card for the [[How I Became a Pokémon Card volume 1|first volume]] of the manga series, ''[[How I Became a Pokémon Card]]'' released in May 1999. This print has an open book symbol in place of an expansion symbol.
===Gallery===
{{TCGGallery |
type=Fighting |
image1=MankeyJungle55.jpg‎ |
caption1={{TCG|Jungle}} print |
image2=MankeyHowIBecamePokémonCardPromo.jpg |
caption2=Promotional print |
}}

==Trivia==
===Origin===
{{m|Scratch}} is a [[move]] in the [[Pokémon games]] that {{p|Mankey}} can learn. This card's English [[Pokédex]] entry comes from {{game|Red and Blue|s}}, though it is slightly reworded. The Japanese entry comes from {{game|Red and Green|s}}.

[[Category:Pokémon cards]]
[[Category:Jungle cards]]
[[Category:Pokémon Jungle cards]]
[[Category:Promotional cards]]
[[Category:Illus. by Kagemaru Himeno]]

{{Project TCG notice}}

[[de:Menki (Dschungel 55)]]
[[fr:Férosinge (Jungle 55)]]
[[ja:マンキー (ポケモンジャングル)]]

Burgundy

2011-06-11T15:36:36Z

Magikarp123193: Uh, not anymore. The episode just aired today, hence the dub name.

{{CharInfobox|
color={{poison color}} |
corecolor={{ruby color light}} |
bordercolor={{poison color dark}} |
name=Burgundy |
jname=カベルネ |
tmname=Cabernet|
slogan=no |
image=Burgundy.png |
size=250px |
caption=Burgundy |
colors=yes|
eyes=Lilac|
hair=Purple|
gender=Female |
hometown=Unknown|
region=[[Unova]] |
trainer=yes |
trainerclass={{pkmn|Trainer}}, {{pkmn|Connoisseusse}} |
game=no |
leader=no |
team=no |
brain=no |
anime=yes |
epnum=BW019 |
epname=A Connoisseur's Revenge! |
java=Ikumi Hayama|
enva=Suzy Myers
}}

'''Burgundy''' (Japanese: '''カベルネ''' ''Cabernet'') is a C-class [[Pokémon Connoisseur|Pokémon Connoisseusse]].

==History==
Burgundy was first seen in ''[[BW019|A Connoisseur's Revenge!]]'' working in a lavish [[Poké Mart]] that lied somewhere between [[Pinwheel Forest]] and [[Skyarrow Bridge]]. She called {{Ash}} over, who was waiting in a long line to see a Connoisseur, to visit her shop instead. He accepted this offer and she immediately pulled him inside her stall and took an interest in {{AP|Pikachu}}, a rare Pokémon in Unova. She was then asked to diagnose {{AP|Sewaddle|Swadloon}} and decided that, because of its [[Ability]], it was a poor Pokémon for Ash's team. She then demanded to see the rest of his [[Party|party]], finding something wrong with each of them. Her actions and diagnostics towards the Pokémon caused each and every one of them to attack her. Furious, she exclaimed that Ash is not compatible with any of his Pokémon and demanded that he replace them immediately.

Suddenly, Cilan and {{an|Iris}} interrupted the session after losing track of where Ash had gone. Burgundy screams and pointed at Cilan; recognizing him, and he recognized her. Cilan then explained that she challenged him at the [[Striaton Gym]] a while back and that he managed to defeat her {{p|Oshawott}} with his {{TP|Cilan|Pansage}}. Burgundy explained that his diagnosis of her Oshawott had motivated her to want revenge against him, even to go as far as to study on how to become a Pokémon Connoisseusse so she could out do him. When she felt she was ready, she went back to [[Striaton City]], completely motivated to re-challenge Cilan. However [[Chili]] and [[Cress]] explained to her that Cilan had left to travel, crushing Burgundy's spirit. Left with not much choice, Burgundy battled Chili and won the {{Badge|Trio}}.

Burgundy challenged Cilan to a two-on-two [[Pokémon battle]] and used her {{p|Dewott}} and {{p|Sawsbuck}}. Before the match started, she made Cilan promise that he will accept her diagnosis that Ash is incompatible with all of his Pokémon and that he would have to let her replace all of them. Cilan agreed, much to Ash's dislike. Both Dewott and Sawsbuck were easily defeated by [[Cilan's Dwebble]] and Pansage, respectively. In the end, Burgundy decided to leave the Poké Mart to travel on her own. She vowed that the next time she and Cilan meet that she would defeat him.

Burgundy is set to reappear in [[BW041]].

==Pokémon==
{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Burgundy
|pkmn=Dewott
|type1=Water
|epnum=BW019
|epname=A Connoisseur's Revenge!
|img=Burgundy Dewott.png
|vajp=Megumi Hayashibara
|desc=Burgundy obtained {{p|Dewott}} when it was just an {{p|Oshawott}}. It lost to [[Cilan's Pansage]] in a gym battle a long time ago. She later used Dewott to battle Cilan once more, only this time it battled with his {{TP|Cilan|Dwebble}}. It had good offensive attacks but could not break through Dwebble's strong defense. It quickly became fatigued, and Dwebble defeated it with a {{m|Shell Smash}} and {{m|X-Scissor}} combo.

Dewott's known moves are {{m|Water Gun}}, {{m|Fury Cutter}}, {{m|Water Pulse}} and {{m|Razor Shell}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Burgundy
|pkmn=Sawsbuck
|type1=Normal
|type2=Grass
|epnum=BW019
|epname=A Connoisseur's Revenge!
|img=Burgundy Sawsbuck.png
|vajp=Kiyotaka Furushima
|desc={{p|Sawsbuck}} is what Burgundy refers to as her "premium brand". She used it to battle [[Cilan's Pansage]] but it was overwhelmed by Pansage's speed combined with repeated hits with {{m|Bullet Seed}}, and finally knocked out by a powerful {{m|SolarBeam}}.

Sawsbuck's known moves are {{m|Horn Leech}}, {{m|Jump Kick}} and {{m|Megahorn}}.}}

==Badges obtained==
This listing is of the [[badge]]s Burgundy has obtained:
* {{badge|Trio}} (after ''[[BW006|Dreams by the Yard Full!]]'' and prior to ''[[BW019|A Connoisseur's Revenge!]]'')

==Voice actors==
{{vatable|color={{ruby color light}}|bordercolor={{poison color}}
|ja=葉山いくみ''Ikumi Hayama''
|en=Suzy Myers
}}

==Trivia==
*Burgundy's Connoisseusse catchphrase is "{{tt|Bonjour|Hello}}! Tasting time {{tt|s'il vous plaît|please}}!" in the original, and "Alors! Evaluation time {{tt|s'il vous plaît|please}}!" in the dub.

==Names==
{| class="roundy" align="left" style="background: #{{ruby color light}}; border: 3px solid #{{poison color dark}}"
|- align=center
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Language
! Name
! style="{{roundytr|5px}}" | Origin
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Japanese
| カベルネ ''Cabernet''
| See above.
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| English
| Burgundy
| From {{wp|Burgundy wine}}.
|- style="background:#FFF;"
| Chinese (Mandarin)
| 赤霞珠 ''Chìxiázhū''
| A name for ''Cabernet Sauvignon''.
|}

{{-}}
{{animecharacters}}
{{Project Anime notice|no}}
[[Category:Anime characters]]
[[Category:Female characters]]

[[de:Cabernet]]
[[ja:カベルネ]]

Talk:Main Page/Archive 11

2011-05-22T21:53:20Z

Magikarp123193: /* Irrelevant info */

This is the {{bp|talk page}} for the Bulbapedia's front page. If you have a general comment about the wiki, please consider placing it in [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/forumdisplay.php?f=195 our forum].'''

== Previous discussions ==

* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 1|Archive 1]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 2|Archive 2]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 3|Archive 3]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 4|Archive 4]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 5|Archive 5]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 6|Archive 6]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 7|Archive 7]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 8|Archive 8]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 9|Archive 9]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 10|Archive 10]]

== Pokémon cries? ==
Should we add Pokémon cries to the Pokémon articles?--[[User:Starman125|Starman125]] 20:18, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
:It's been tried before, but it caused too many problems. It would still probably cause too much problems now.--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 20:23, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
:::[[Talk:Main Page/Archive 10#Pokémon Cries|This has been discussed to death already.]] —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 20:24, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
::::We're going to try to get them put in as soon as possible. They've been sitting in a directory on the server for... jeez, at least a year. Last time we tried to put them in, the server exploded. Archaic's been wary of doing it since then. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:35, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::Just out of curiosity, what file format was used for the cries? That may have been the problem.--[[User:Starman125|Starman125]] 20:54, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
::::::Over at de:, we have mp3 with the following syntax: <nowiki>{{#mp3:http://www.greenchu.de/nakigoe/025.mp3}}</nowiki>. I cannot figure out where that parser functions comes from, though.--[[User:Afrael|Afrael]] [[User talk:Afrael|talk]] 00:59, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::::I think having the files like [http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/#music Floatzel.net] have their music files could work well. We might even eventually be able to put route/town/cave music on the pages!--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 04:09, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Oh would I ''love'' to do that. Too bad Nintendo would '''destroy''' us for doing so. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:01, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

Why has no one said anything about the roars of Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, and Zekrom in the anime? Cause it should at least in the trivia say that: Dialga uses King Ghidorah's roar. Palkia uses Boga's roar and some of Godzilla's and King Ghidorah's roars. Giratina uses Mothra's roar. And Zekrom uses Megaguirus's roar. I know that its not that important but it is fact so cant it be put in their trivia section on thier pages? Am i the only one that thinks that it should?

== Move Trivia ==

Should there be a trivia section for moves? For instance, only one Pokémon can learn [[Steel Wing]] by leveling up.--[[User:Chalkwriter|Chalkwriter]] 16:26, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
:There are for some moves, but not all of them have any notable trivia to add, so there is no sub heading. If you think of '''notable''' trivia, then add the sub-heading and put it in. Thanks, [[User:Samjohn95|Sam]][[User talk:Samjohn95|john]][[Special:contributions/Samjohn95|95]] 21:38, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

== Glitch Pokémon ==

Hi there. I remember when I was around nine, I used to play Pokémon Gold & Crystal, and I remember there was this cloning trick that could clone pokémon and the items that they held. Anyways, I began to notice if I did the right trick at a certain time, (or whatever it was, it has been a while) I managed to get a special type of Pokémon, the trainer. The trainer of course, had no moves and therefore could only struggle, but you could use TMs and everything. I remember having fun with that, but I can't find any info on this.- ''unsigned comment from {{u|Bublador}} ([[User talk:Bublador|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Bublador|contribs]]) ''

Try this page, all of the glitches are on [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Glitches#All_Generations]] and please sign your comment when you use these talk pages. thank you --[[User:Daniel1993|Daniel1993]] 19:55, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

== Pronunciation ==

I'm just thinking if on every Pokémon's page that we have their Pronunciation somewhere? like this:

Say: Sin-da-qwil

What do you think?--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 07:03, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:It's a good idea, but I believe we've had problems with adding pronunciations in the past because of people not agreeing on the "correct" pronunciation (also, sometimes there are conflicting pronunciations from different official sources) --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 07:06, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
::Oh oh then. I just though because some Pokémon I can't pronounce their names--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 07:21, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:::If you have a look at the source of, say, Bulbasaur's page, you'll see this:
<pre>{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Bulbasaur |
pron=<sc>''bul''-buh-sore</sc> <ref>Barbo, Maria. ''The Official Pokémon Handbook''.
Scholastic Publishing, 1999. ISBN 0-439-10397-5</ref> |
jname=フシギダネ |
tmname=Fushigidane |
</pre>

the "pron=" parameter is not coded into the infobox, so it does appear. But it's there on every Pokemon's page. [[User:Takharii|'''たか''']][[User talk:Takharii|'''はり''']][[Special:Contributions/Takharii|'''い''']] 07:39, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
::::Yes, it's coded in but because of the disagreements on pronunciation and no clear official source for many of them, it was decided to hide them all. If Nintendo or anyone ever releases an official pronunciation guide then we'll be able to put them back up. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:43, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::Is whatever the pronunciation is in the English dub of the anime (and similarly the pronunciation in the Japanese dub for those not yet released over here) not enough to justify it? With the exception of the odd time where they've actually changed the pronunciation during it e.g. Regice... '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 13:46, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

== Artwork?! ==

I hate to be the silly one who starts the "What's going on?!!" discussion, but seriously, why have all the pictures of the Generation I Pokémon been changed to the old Red and Green artwork? Is it for an aniversary or something? [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 10:59, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:Yes. Anniversary of RB was yesterday, so Gen I Pokémon got Gen I art. But due to the server cache it took some a while to switch over, and I believe they should all be starting to switch back now, but again, that'll be whenever the server cache gets updated. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 11:24, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
::Actually, maybe it could be put on a switch, like with Gastrodon's forms, so it could switch between old and new artwork periodically. How's that sound? - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 13:49, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:::That's exactly what it did. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:34, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
::::Oh, so it's still in effect? As in, like, permanently? Because that was what I was suggesting. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 22:36, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::Yes, next year and on certain other days the site will have easter egg effects. Yaaaay for surprises. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:32, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
::::::I won't panic when the Gym Leader pictures are replaced by fan art then... [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 11:53, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Is it the same currently with the Generation II Pokémon and their G/S artwork? [[User:Darthrai|Darthrai]] 19:16, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Yes. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 19:30, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

== just a though... ==

i realise this is probably in the wrong place, but, as unlocking the generation IV nationaldex and requesting a trade on the GTS require only seeing a particular species of pokémon, would it make sense to include a section explaining where to see them. (and i am aware that the GTS has only around a week left). I know that people (granted they are few) have had problems viewing unown and riolu in DP for example.--[[User:Mr-connor|Mr-connor]] 13:03, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

:There is a section explaining where to see, and catch, Pokémon. It's right below the Pokédex Entries section.--[[user:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] I lie in wait...... 13:17, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

'''TYPHLOSION LV:50
KINDRA LV:50
ALAKAZAM LV:50
LUGIA LV:45
TYRANITAR LV:55
DRAGONITE LV:57'''

this is my current team for pokemon soulsilver...i think it has room for improvement.
[[User:The a-team|The a-team]] 21:14, 5 September 2010 (UTC)brandon strayhorn[[User:The a-team|The a-team]] 21:14, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
:This isn't the place to put this. Post it on the forums.--[[User:Cold|Cold]] ([[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 21:20, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

== Bulbagarden Archives ==

I have a problem that I keep sending the confirmation e-mail like every week but it doesn't show up. I'm saying it here because I haven't confirmed my e-mail on Archives. Someone please help me!!!!!!--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 10:26, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
:Have you checked it isn't getting caught by the spam filter on your email? Maybe check that the email address is right too? <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 10:42, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
::Thanks Wardnae, I accidentally wrote the wrong email.--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 23:42, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
== Sizes on Pokémon pages.. ==

Something that's been bugging me for a while. I've been manually going around and resizing the main art boxes at the top of each Pokémon page so they all match each other and look uniform. However, many times box sizes will still be off by a few pixels. Would there be anyway to code something that keeps them all the same size? [http://i54.tinypic.com/28rcc53.png] is an example of what Ii'm talking about. Basically, the box that surrounds the art.~★ '''[[User:Cubic Question|''cubic'']][[User talk:Cubic Question|''QUESTION'']]''' 13:48, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
:Even if you make the width a certain size, the length will be different according to the size of the art. To get it uniform, you would have to make every file have some whitespace so it would be the same size. That won't happen though. The boxes don't really need to be uniform in size. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 20:23, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

== Litsen... ==

First of all, I have a idea of a section in the pokemon's main page. Footprint. It'll be good. also, the Pronunciation topic above^^. We can take Right pronunciation from [http://pokemon.wikia.com/ Pokemon Wiki]. I know its cheating, but, Ill help us. --[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 11:41, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:The footprint is already in each Pokémon's infobox. And, we already discussed that the pronunciation caused conflict, and the Pokémon Wiki is far from a reliable source. So we probably won't be adding the pronunciation to each's Pokémon's page. [[User:Takharii|'''たか''']][[User talk:Takharii|'''はり''']][[Special:Contributions/Takharii|'''い''']] 11:08, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
::By the way I think you were trying to say Listen not Litsen?--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 11:09, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:::Well, Pronunciation is what admins can do when the wiki lets locked. also, wouldn't they need help adding 150 and more pokemon?--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 11:41, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
::::Pronunciation is conflicting. It isn't just hard work. For example, Bonsly was pronounced with an ē once, then with an ī in another time. One was in the movie, the other in the anime, I've just forgotten which. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 11:58, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::Oh Really? We All Know That Charmander is pronounced ''Chaar-man-der''. Easy Enough?? Just search on google for pokemon pronunciation.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 12:05, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
::::::Yeah, no Google searching, thanks. The official sources (Official Handbooks, Anime, and Video Games) don't always agree on pronunciations of Pokémon names. Now, if the official sources all agree at one point, then we will add them. But until then, they're not going on the species pages. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<sc>Kogoro</sc>''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<sc>Talk to me</sc>''']] - 12:16, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
Okay Then. Moving to the next topic. What About Something at the Top of The Pokemon pics To Change the Picture into other generation art or to a Different form?--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 12:25, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:Most form changing Pokémon have their forms rotated based on the current time (see {{p|Arceus}}, then refresh the page). As for different generations, the infoboxes are set to display it on certain days—for example, on the anniversary of Red and Blue the Pokémon pages displayed their Red and Blue artwork (for those that have it). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:44, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

== Doesn't look like the servers are being nice ==

No, I'm not geting 504s (or, if I am, FireFox is hiding them); I'm getting something even worse: pages not loading at all. A couple of days ago, I was going to come here to get a small amount of information, and it took ages to do so (so long in fact that I just got it O_O). I think the servers are being overstressed - despite the fact that I was getting good ping times off of 10 pings to the site's router (if there is one), I couldn't load any pages - not even robots.txt! That is just a simple text document, and it wouldn't even load! I would start the lockdown soon, as the closer to release we get, the more activity we are likely to get.

I consider myself lucky I could even get on right now. [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 06:37, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

:The fifth generation Pokemon are invading Bulbapedia and interfering with the system! I haven't actually noticed any problems yet though, which is strange. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 20:38, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

== Finally! ==

as i mentioned Form changing above, We can use A method for pokemon with 2 different forms like giratina and shellos

Method: All you guys saw Avatar, Everyone Saw. Now See The [http://james-camerons-avatar.wikia.com Avatar Wiki]'s Jake Sully Article. There is a button below the pic to change the Picture into Human/Avatar. We can use that Method.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 16:48, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

:That's a really good idea actually, I think it would be better than the Pokemon's form just changing periodically. Perhaps now Bulbapedia is being upgraded for the fifth generation, it would be a convenient time for recoding the articles. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 20:36, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
::I dunno. Shaymin is also two formes, and changes with time. Shellos and Giratina, by the way, are not random. It's based on the hours. And unfortunately, that just changes the infobox picture; there are '''''several''''' things that change for forme changers. Unless your Ground-type moves miss against Altered Forme Giratina. What's that? They don't? But you can only use Earthquake five times? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:11, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:::Wikimon has a more extensive one that allows you to toggle the whole box, for example in the [http://wikimon.net/Agumon Agumon article], click the tabs. It even integrates the table of contents into it. Pretty clever. - [[User:DanPMK|MK]] ([[User Talk:DanPMK|t]]/[[Special:contributions/DanPMK|c]]) 04:57, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
::::see, only arceus has several things that needed to be changed. what about others?--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 07:52, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::What about Mebukijika and Genesect (yes, Genesect has other formes (I think five or six?)) [[User:Zekasaur|Zekasaur]] 10:53, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

:I also support the toggle idea. By the way, it has been mentioned in Arbok's Pokédex entries that it has at least six different patterns, of which two have appeared in official game art. Maybe it would be worthwhile to also toggle these two the same way? --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 09:05, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
::I say we just stick with actual forme changes, and not include design differences between canons. [[User:PDL|PDL]] 14:24, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

== Metric tags in Pokédex entries ==
All pokedex entries use the imperial units of measurement from the US translation. I suggest adding tags with the metric counterparts for two reasons:

1 - the original Japanese entries use metric units, so it could be seen as "more canon".

2 - there are international users of Bulbapedia (me included) that are not used to imperial units.

For example, the final sentence in Magneton's entry in Yellow could be: ''It raises the temperature by {{tt|3.6F degrees|2°C}} within {{tt|3,300 feet|1 km}}.''

If the staff agrees, I'm willing to go through all Pokedex entries and add the metric values. I know enough Japanese to easily get the official values from the pokedex entries listed on the Japanese wiki, assuming those are correct.

--[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 09:05, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

:Metric system seems like a pretty simple and straightforward thing to include, it's merely a big job to go through ''everything'' and add the metric equivalent. Perhaps starting small, with say the Pokémon infobox only for now, and work our way up (every infobox should list the Pokémon's height and weight, so it's the most prominent use of the imperial system). Pokédex entries are also pretty simple, but I'd also say they're the less important area to work on (no complaints if you want to fix them all yourself, however). --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 11:28, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

::Each Pokemon already have both their imperial and metric height and weight listed in their infobox, except for Generation 5, because their imperial values are not yet officially known. So pokedex entries are the most important area left to work on, as far as I can see. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 13:37, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

:::Unless someone else has a big complaint about it, I don't see why you can't go ahead and update those, in that case. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 14:47, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

::::I have done 101 out of 493 for now. I may have missed a few in scanning all those entries. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 23:59, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

== Question? ==

The option to write in the discussion for the Pokemon Black and White Versions isn't there. Are we not aloud to write there? --[[User:Mew is the Original One|Mew is the Original One]] 21:16, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:Yeah, but only if you're autoconfirmed, meaning you've been registered for a certain amount of time and have made a certain number of edits.--[[User:Cold|Cold]] ([[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 21:22, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
::OK thanks --[[User:Mew is the Original One|Mew is the Original One]] 22:09, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:::What is the amount of time and important edits? [[User:Zekasaur|Zekasaur]] 10:49, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

== 3D Artwork ==

This is something that's been on my mind for a while now, but I couldn't bring it up due to the lockdown. Does anyone else think it would be a good idea to possibly include 3D images of Pokémon and Pokémon moves, like what's done for anime? It could be done in a seperate section or sub-section of the articles. Oh, and I don't mean updating every time a new 3D game comes out; I mean adding images for each time a move or Pokémon has appeared in a 3D game, like images of Pidgeot from its appearances in Pokémon Stadium through Pokémon Battle Revolution. I don't know if this has been brought up before, but is this notion a good idea?--[[User:Black Yin Zekrom|Black Yin Zekrom]] 00:06, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
:Although i don't know much, but taking 3D Pics will be hard and i don't think its a very good idea.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 11:07, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Well, I don't quite know how it's done, but you don't take 3D pics by using a camera or something. The quality of the 3D images here prove that.--[[User:Black Yin Zekrom|Black Yin Zekrom]] 15:25, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

== Lylat Wiki ==

[http://starfoxwiki.org/Lylat_Wiki Lylat Wiki] is now a part of NIWA, Oct 8th and 15th two others will be added, so might wanna add that to your NIWA bar ;] [[User:Malake256|Malake256]] 17:03, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

== Main page design ==

Does no one else think Tsutarja is missing?
We have Bulbasaur, Treecko, Chikorita and Turtwig pics on the main page, but no Tsutarja (or victini if you want the first pokémon in the dex) I can feel it's absence when I look at the page. [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 19:55, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
:main page uses animated minisprites. we dont have Gen V animated minisprites. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[Special:Contributions/MAGNEDETH|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 19:56, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
::Yet. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:09, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
:::I can ''Make'' Them Animate. but it wont we official, and Archives are currently blocked.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 20:33, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
:::I see. That's a little worrying because they're not animated on my screen. [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 17:10, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
::::What browser are you running? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 07:26, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::on chrome and IE they don't work, only firefox. [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 12:44, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::I've heard that they also work on Opera. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 06:04, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Actually,there is a Tsutarja animated sprite Bulbagarden Archives, but there's no space for it. However, a Victini sprite has also been uploaded. [[User:Jlin8002|Jlin8002]] 00:00, 9 October 2010 (UTC)Jlin8002

== Shiny Gen V Sprites ==

I would like to know where we are going to put the shiny sprites for the fifth generation Pokémon. I have the sprites (official). [[User:Zekasaur|Zekasaur]] 10:47, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
:We have them, however we have yet to upload them. I guess I could do them today. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 11:28, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

== Translations ==

This is a big job, and would probably be a bad idea, but could we translate Bulbapedia into other languages? I know that we already have basic translations of Pokémon and Moves, but what about the rest of it?----[[User:Chalkwriter|Chalk]][[User talk:Chalkwriter|writer]] 18:08, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
:May I direct your attention [[Encyclopædiæ Pokémonis|here]] ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 18:09, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

== Clearer distinction between "natural" and Dream World abilities. ==

I think the distinction between pokémon that only have certain abilities through the Pokémon Dream World and those that don't can be made clearer. For example, on pages of separate abilities there is just one table with normal and PDW pokémon all mixed up, while it would be easier to make separate tables for both. I think this would help both users that own Pokémon Black or White and those that don't. Besides that we could also make a category for "Abilities exclusive to Pokémon Dream World", like {{a|Harvest}}. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 00:22, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
:On the separate pages, they are specfically listed in a separate column that says "Dream World ability". That seems separate enough. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 00:24, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
::Yes, but I think it would be easier if for example you are looking for a pokémon that has a certain ability, that you don't have to go through a list of which half of the pokémon are Dream World pokémon. Even for Dream World users like me pokémon in wild and in Dream World are two completely separate things. But yeah, it's not that necessary. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 09:32, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

== Grammar error ==

Being the Grammar Nazi I am, I have spotted an error I can't fix. I accidentally got logged out while editing a userpage, and I noticed there is a lack of space between sentences on the message that explains that new users cannot edit userpages. This is really bothering me, so could anyone with the power to edit the MediaWiki namespace fix it? [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 02:13, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
:Done, I think. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:20, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

== Update on Message to the Editor ==

[[Template:Main Page/Message from the Editor|'''This''']] should be updated, no? I think people would like to know it's been unlocked [[User:Malake256|Malake256]] 02:51, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
: Very true, its more that a month old [[User:Ruberduck0123|'''Ruber''']][[User talk:Ruberduck0123|'''duck''']][[Special:Contributions/Ruberduck0123|'''0123''']] 07:00, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
::It doesn't matter if it's five months old, he edits it when they have an announcement to make, he doesn't have to update it once a month people!! --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 13:46, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

== Bulbanews ==

I have a question : Can only staff members report news to bulbanews or can normal users also report --[[User:Vlade|Vlade]] 15:45, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Bulbanews is a different wiki altogether. Though they're both part of Bulbagarden, both Bulbapedia and Bulbanews have their own front pages. The information you're looking for is on Bulbanews's front page and if you have any other questions about it, it'd make sense to ask on that talk page rather than this one. [[n:Front page|here's a link, for convenience]] [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 20:26, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
:What Kanjo said is correct, but to answer your question, anyone is allowed to report news to Bulbanews. After submission, an admin or columnist needs to move it out of the draft namespace and into the mainspace. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 00:01, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

== Zoroark's Name ==

I think the Ark in its name could be cause it can transform into lots of pokemon like an ark of pokemon and the reason i posted it here cause i cant post it on Zoroark's article . --[[User:Vlade|Vlade]] 16:12, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
:First of all, if you can't post in an article, inquire in the article's talk page (i.e. [[Talk:Zoroark (Pokémon)]]), not Talk: Main Page. Secondly, that's a real stretch: that's not an actual definition of the word ark, it's just a vague metaphor. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 21:07, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

== Before you ask ==

Read the news. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:33, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

:Is it for the Japanese anime writer? If so, I suppose Chimecho is more appropriate than Lugia, considering how the little windchime links to places like Mt. Pyre and Sendoff Spring. It can be in greyscale if desired. Besides, what is more favourable aesthetically is that one may include Chingling too, instead of Lugia all over the place. [[User:Rxhar|Rxhar]] 09:46, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

::It's Lugia because the man is credited with helping to create it. It was on the news post. [[User:Tamah|Tamah]] 23:41, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

:::Well, it was more than a week by now, someone could remember me who edits the main page? --[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 16:14, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

== What'd I do wrong here? ==

[[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:Starck]]

... What happened? [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK]] [[Mudkip (Pokémon)|Leiks]] [[Lucario (Pokémon)|Lucario]] [[User talk:SpecialK|and the]] [[User:Missingno. Master/Celebi Glitch|Celebi Glitch]] 12:46, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
:Just create a page with <nowiki>{{subst:welcome}}</nowiki>.----'''''無限の知性''''' ◎ [[User:Dennou Zenshi|ＤＥＮＮＯＵ]]'''[[Special:Random|◆]]'''[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|ＺＥＮＳＨＩ]] 13:08, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

==EV Listings==

I was just thinking of a very useful idea. On the pages for each route, cave, etc, where the wild Pokémon are listen, I was thinking we should add another column after each Pokémon and say "1 Speed," or "2 Attack," or something. That, paired with encounter and level rates would help a great deal in EV training for all different levels. {{unsigned|Igglybuff63}}
:Well, I admit, this would be useful to some people, but this is an encyclopedia, not a walkthrough. Honestly, I don't see why you can't go to the Pokémon's page and check. I'm not for it, but I'm not exactly saying NO. --[[User:Si6x12|'''Si6''']][[User Talk:Si6x12|'''x12''']] 03:01, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
::I agree completely, however, it would be a nice little touch on the page for convenience. I'm not one of them, but I know some people have incredibly slow computers, and I can easily imagine the frustration of those who have slow connections along with a desire to EV train. [[User:Igglybuff63|Igglybuff63]] 14:00, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
:::I'm thinking no, but I do see a use in it. Perhaps {{bp|Project Walkthroughs}} would be a good place to ask. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 14:07, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
::::Putting every possible bit of information is dumb. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:04, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
:::::But that's not what we'd be doing now, is it? We wouldn't be putting their number, or Dex color, or Egg group, or anything like that, just the EV(s) they give. {{unsigned|Igglybuff63}}
::::::The number should already be there. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:50, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
:::::::No, I'm talking about on the route pages. {{unsigned|Igglybuff63}}
::::::::Don't make me go on a rant about users and clicking links. If you plan to EV train, then just look up the Pokémon that give EVs in whatever. We're an encyclopedia, not an EV training guide. Do some of your own research, dude. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:15, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::This isn't at all a matter of laziness. Heck, I'd be willing to go around and do a ton of the work, assuming I could figure out how to code it (which I can't) It's just a nice touch of convenience for users, you know? I mean, I'm fine if we don't do it, it's just a suggestion, after all. [[User:Igglybuff63|Igglybuff63]] 04:39, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

== Redirection Pages ==

Do we really need those redirection pages with one Pokémon used by a character, the TCG link, and the Pokémon link? We already have the Pokémon used by a character and it's TCG links on the page. I understand the ones for like Pikachu, but ones like Mr. Mime and Gengar don't need to be there, do they? [[User:DarthMartian7|DarthMartian7]] 03:09, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
:This is already being discussed on the forums, so please be patient. '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 03:13, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
::And how soon do we delete {{template|p}}, which I'm sure you all want. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:05, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

== What to do with Dream World artwork. ==

Currently we use some to replace the Sugimori artwork, but what to do when said artwork is avaiable?. Sincerely i thing it would be a waste to just leave the DW artwork floating alone. Do you agree? We should do something with it.
--[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 18:06, 15 November 2010 (UTC) Sorry, forgot signature
:It would be a waste. Also, how come we don't put up the old artwork on the Pokémon's page? It seems a waste not to include it on the page (especially when some trivia refers to it). [[User:Tesh|Teshigigas]] [[User_talk:Tesh|[Talk]]] 18:29, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
::Old artwork '''''is''''' on the pages, they just change from time to time [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 18:36, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
:::not really, Ataro. we are going to find a use for the images, but as of late weve had other things to focus on. rest assured, it will be showcased somewhere and in some way. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[Special:Contributions/MAGNEDETH|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 23:01, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
::::/me keeps reading the "In the Games" sections of pages (hint). [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 00:47, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
:::::Over at [http://www.zeldawiki.org/Main_Page Zelda wiki]they use a code of sorts that makes a picture change every time you refresh the page. It seemed to use a template called <nowiki>{{RandomLinkImage}}</nowiki> for [http://www.zeldawiki.org/Link this page]. I think I've seen simeler on userpages. It varied page to page. --[[User:Pika3323|Pika3323]] 20:34, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
:Maybe each Pokemon's page can feature a gallery of their art from all games. Just a random thought. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 21:17, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
::Eventually. There's always an issue with doing that though. And that is how many damned exceptions there are. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:13, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
:::Um, doesn't each Pokémon page link to a gallery anyway? --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 21:00, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
::::Em, we could show the artwork in the pages for "special" cases, like ivysaur. Ivysaur has purple colored eyes in the anime and Dream World--[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 22:44, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

== Trading pre-Unova ==

Some pokemon such as [[Bulbasaur]] say that you have to "trade" to get the Pokémon when you actually have to get it through Pokéshift, Dream World, or both? When are we going to change this? —[[User:Zekasaur|♫Ze]][[User talk:Zekasaur|kas]][[Special:Contributions/Zekasaur|aur♫]] 03:04, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
:It will likely be changed as soon as someone enters that specific information into the tables. If I recall correctly, the template defaults to saying "trade" if no data is entered. [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 04:58, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

== Preview ==
You know how it seems that everyone forgets to use the preview when they first come on? Well on NWiki, they have something that makes you show preview, and I was wondering if we could use that here. [[User:Gliscorguy54|Gliscorguy54]] 01:30, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
:I actually find that incredibly annoying on NWiki. If you are going around making minor edits, such as relinking, it just gets in the way. I'm pretty sure there is an option here to turn it on in preferences if you like it. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 02:10, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

== File:Ani586WMS.png not displaying ==

Could someone work on this? The file [[a:File:Ani586WMS.png]] isn't showing up on the main page. I checked the Archives and found that the filename is correct, but somehow or another it isn't working. Thanks. '''chief[[User:Chiefboz|boz]]''' ''(my [[User talk:Chiefboz|talk]] and [[Special:Contributions/Chiefboz|contributions]])'' 15:44, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
:There is nothing that can be done about this. It is just the archives not synchronizing with Bulbapedia. All we can do is wait for it to fix itself. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 03:28, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
::Hopefully before Christmas...[[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 03:33, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
:::It was actually displaying when MAGNEDETH added it. It fitted in nicely too... --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 04:29, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
::::It seems to be working now. '''chief[[User:Chiefboz|boz]]''' • [[User talk:Chiefboz|talk]] 17:25, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

== Pokémon SIENNA??? Why do we have NOTHING on this? See video ==

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQqH2HV7p10&feature=watch_response

I had no idea there was such a thing as a Sienna version of this!! Please, add the article: {{red link|Pokemon Sienna}}. Thanks! --[[User:Tanaka Shimoya|Tanaka Shimoya]] 13:27, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
:Maybe on [[hack games]]. But it probably isn't notable enough. Take it up on the talk page there. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:36, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
:You couls add it to {{red link|rom hacks}}{{unsigned|Ent3r}}
::No. That page does not and will not exist. The correct page is [[hack games]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 04:57, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
:::On the record, we only add really famous hack games to the [[hack games]] article. I've never heard of this one personally, so it probably doesn't need to be mentioned. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 06:06, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

== "Pokemon Apokelypse" ==

Anyone seen this?:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDX1m0Y2Vkg&feature=watch_response_rev

Looks like we don't have an article on it either. Why doesn't anyone create something about this? --[[User:Tanaka Shimoya|Tanaka Shimoya]] 13:29, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
:[[User:ShinyPikachu/Pokémon Apokélypse]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:36, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

There shouldn't be a page because its fan made. If it were a real Pokémon movie, then there should be a page. Although, I have to admit, it is pretty awesome and would make a cool movie for older Pokémon fans. [[User:Gryffindor1991|Gryffindor1991]] 23:33, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
:[[Bulbapedia:Project Fandom]] --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 14:00, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
:: Just to point out, a heck of a lot of wikis hold pages on notable fan projects. I don't mean projects like "my mate Billy made a hack", but rather projects that caused controversy, were published or otherwise became noteworthy. I think Apokelypse caused enough of a stir, a long with a heck of a lot of controversy about Pokémon canon. One has to commend the whole publicity hoax where the creators staged a theatre viewing of it, too. But on the flip side, seeing as this wiki doesn't even have a page on James Turner, it'd be silly to add a page on something less notable. Meh. Candy for all. [[User:Me, Hurray!|Me, Hurray!]] 20:00, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

== Did you know section: "...the typing of the first Unova Gym Leader is depend''a''nt..." ==

Shouldn't that read "depend'''e'''nt"? The spelling that currently appears on the Main Page isn't really accepted in American or British English. [[User:Ultraflame|Ultraflame]] 19:07, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
:Fixed. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:19, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

== A search bar? ==

Has Bulbapedia ever considered having a bar that would be used similar to the Google toolbar? It could have a place to search for an article on Bulbapedia, maybe even have a link to the home page, recent changes, bulbawiki forum, the archives, etc. This would mean easy access to not just the wiki, but so that people with the toolbar could get to a specific pafe faster as well! --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 22:16, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
:You mean a Bulbapedia Toolbar for a browser? That's something to think about, I guess. Maybe a Firefox addon or something. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:19, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
::Yes. That's what I meant. I'm not sure if it is even possible but if it was it would be very useful for viewing and editing Bulbapedia. --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 03:34, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
:::I would recommend bringing this up on the [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/forumdisplay.php?f=195 BulbaWiki forum]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 00:47, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
I thought there already was a search bar on the bulbagarden main page?
::::Yeah there's one on the main page but it's not accurate like google--[[User:Pika3323|Pika3323]] 22:03, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::Try [[Bulbapedia Search Bar Plugin]]. Anyone know how to program? '''chief[[User:Chiefboz|boz]]''' • [[User talk:Chiefboz|talk]] 04:45, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

== Countdown ==

Are we going to have a countdown for the NA release of Black and White? →'''[[User:Axxonn|ΑΧΧΟΝΝ]][[User talk:Axxonn|fi]][[Special:Contributions/Axxonn|re]]''' 01:54, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
:Why not. I think it's traditional to keep the Christmas garb up until January 5th, so we can change the colorscheme then. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:46, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
::Well can we change the color scheme now?--[[User:Lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 11:46, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Yep. We do it all the time. If look in the hidden code of [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Template:Main_Page&action=edit Template:Main Page], you can see all the alternate ones. Try previewing them on a different page (you won't be able to preview them on Template:Main Page because it is protected). So now that it's the sixth, I guess someone needs to change the colorscheme (I think trom wanted to change to the BW one). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:55, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

== Klink swap. ==

How in the world did everyone switch giaru with klink so FAST? If anyone thinks this is a funny comment I am a new user--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 01:46, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
:Many users, and [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Giaru (Pokémon)]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 02:18, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
::A. It was 3 whole days ago. B. Not many names were revealed. C. The names aren't linked in many places, so it is quick to change them. D. There are tons of people who are available 24/7 to change things as soon as possible. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 14:28, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
:::That would mean at LEAST one hundred users in each time zone! Just HOW many people do we have!--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 18:15, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
::::Read last sentence of [[Template:Forums_notice]]. Bulbabot is an <del>annoying</del> <code>awesome</code> bot that is a <del>tyrant</del> <code>friend</code> to everyone in <del>the world</del> <code>Bulbagarden</code>. However, it gets major things done quickly. [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 20:20, 5 February 2011 (UTC) (And Bulbabot, if you even TOUCH this post, I will <del>kill you</del> <code>give you a cookie</code>.)
:::::Except that Bulbabot is not suitable for those kinds of edits. It can't select a portion of a string (i.e. it can't pick a "Giaru" out of the mittle of a template like "{{p|Giaru}}"). It was all done by human editors. And generally there are 50-100 pages that need changing, and with ctrl+F and copypaste a single user can easily do two or three a minute. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 04:01, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
::::::What in the Nine Hells? Bulbabot can't do {{wp|regular expressions}}? Then what ''can'' it do? Is it written in Visual Basic? —[[User:Minimiscience|Minimiscience]] 04:15, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
:::::::TTE said that at one point. I don't remember where, or whether it was just that he didn't know how to set that himself. Bulbabot's programmer is Zhen Lin, who is currently away. As a result, Bulbabot can't currently be given new tasks. It will continue to perform the tasks it has been programmed to do. For the record, it is written in C#. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 04:36, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

== WHAT HAPPENED?!?! ==

WHAT HAPPENED TO BULBAPEDIA?!?!?!--[[User:Lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 04:48, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
:Nevermind. It's all good now.--[[User:Lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 04:49, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
...What did happen? --'''[[User:Flyingtypefan|~~☆Flyingtypefan☆~~]]''' '''''•[[User talk:Flyingtypefan|Talk]]•''''' '''''[[Delibird (Pokemon)|Holiday cheer]]•''''' 01:32, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

== TCG Proposal ==

While looking at some cards from [[Undaunted]], I came across Hariyama. So I clicked it, and the hue was WAY too bright. Could we adopt a darker color for Fighting type pokemon? [[User:TheTheDragon14|TheTheDragon14]] 23:39, 3 January 2011 (UTC)TheTheDragon14
:Specifically [[Hariyama (Undaunted 14)|this card]]? Yes, I agree. It is a bit bright. I suggest you take this to {{bp|Project TCG}}. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 23:57, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

== Log Out ==

I was changing my signature recently and nearly every time I pressed save I got logged out! What's happening? —[[User:Strongriver|強力な]][[User talk:Strongriver|河川]][[Special:Contributions/Strongriver|!]] 08:42, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
:I am being ignored. Someone help me! —[[User:Strongriver|強力な]][[User talk:Strongriver|河川]][[Special:Contributions/Strongriver|!]] 10:29, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
::I believe the server is having some problems at the moment. See [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showthread.php?t=39109&page=18 here] for a little more information. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 10:32, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

== Animated G5 Sprites... ==

Would it be possible to put in the full, animated versions of the sprites from Generation 5? Generation 2 and 3 sprites are animated... I was also wondering if this would just be too much trouble or would overload the server. You can find the sprites [http://www.arkeis.com/animatedsprites.html/ here.] (good website, I think that they're all accurate. Whoever made it did an awesome job). Also, those sprites wouldn't have to be used, it's just the resource that I found. the files are .gif files... Thanks!!! [[User:Bapplesauce|Bapplesauce]] 02:51, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
:Some of the BW sprites are animated PNGs. We don't want to use GIFs for Generation IV and V sprites. You have to have Firefox in order to see the animation because some browsers don't support it. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 02:57, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
::Oh, that's right- I always used to find some other animated images on here that wouldn't animate... Okay. Well, if anyone finds another way... or can get more animated PNGs... thanks. [[User:Bapplesauce|Bapplesauce]] 03:40, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Just so you know, you don't have to have Firefox; Opera works as well. However, I think those are the only major browsers that support APNG (IE and Chrome don't, I don't know about Safari). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:52, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

==Redirect problem==
[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Special:DoubleRedirects&limit=500&offset=0 O_O]. Uh, were these supposed to redirect to SmashWiki? Interwiki table prob? '''''[[User:HavocReaper48|--Havoc]][[User talk:HavocReaper48|48]]''''' 01:14, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
:I saw that too! I was confused. →'''[[User:Axxonn|ΑΧΧΟΝΝ]][[User talk:Axxonn|fi]][[Special:Contributions/Axxonn|re]]''' 01:21, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
::Yes the were. It comes with the NIWA affiliation. Unfortunately I'm not sure if there's a way to "fix" these redirects so that they don't appear on that page. It's not a problem though. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 01:25, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
:::They do work perfectly fine, but they just fill up that special page. It is a problem with the MediaWiki software. And for the record, only some redirect to SmashWiki; Mario goes to Mario Wiki, Kirby goes to WiKirby etc. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 06:44, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

==Countdown==
Don't know if anyone agrees with me but shouldn't the countdown be changed to the date of the European release considering it's the first English release of B+W?

Edit - Sorry forgot to sign --[[User:Daniel1993|Daniel1993]] 21:21, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
:Yes, it should. And since it's been confirmed, it now does. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 21:29, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

I think it should be the north american one.Wasent it that way with platinum?[[User:KylleyFab4Fan|KylleyFab4Fan]] 23:15, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
:The European date is the closest thing we have to the English release, I don't know what's wrong with that. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 23:18, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
::To clarify what Jello said, the date we use for the countdown is the ''first'' official ''English'' release date. For Platinum it was the North American date, as the North American date was before the European date. For Black and White the European date is first, so we are counting down to that date. If, by some chance, the next main series game(s) is/are released in Australia and New Zealand first (I wish), then we will count down to that date instead. There will be no preference for one English-speaking location over another. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 01:48, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Would putting up multiple countdowns overload the server?--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 18:13, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
::::I don't think that's what Werdnae meant. I think he meant just changing the one countdown to reflect the first official English release date. --[[User:Daniel1993|だにえる - 千九百九十三 ]] 20:52, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::Ah, I get it now.--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 02:11, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
::::::Yes, I was actually meaning changing the existing one (even if only once it had expired). However the same applies for multiple countdowns. The bigger issue (bigger than the server load) is that if we are going to have more than one countdown, we must then include a countdown for ''every'' English release, since we aren't being biased towards any one region. So we would probably end up with five or six, rather than two, and that would be too many. Not server-load too many, although it could prove problematic, but too many space-wise on the main page. If you wish to put your own countdown on your userpage, I remember seeing a template for it floating around in someone's userspace.

::::::The reason we are doing the first English release, rather than the American release, it that this is an Engligh-language site, rather than a specifically North American site. Although the servers are in the US, our webmaster, Archaic, lives in Australia. To make a special case for the North American release would appear as a great big insult to all our non-American users, since we've never done anything like that for the European release when it was second. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 02:27, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

:::::::Not to mention the fact that this ''is'' the first time that the European release date is before the North American one.--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 02:02, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

== Pokemon of the Week ==

We most make a Pokemon of the Week column. Almost every site makes one.
I`m sorry i didn`t sign. --Other help is what i can do. 16:56, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
:First of all, I'm not sure that we need one. We already have the Featured Article, or at least SHOULD have (I think the countdown is supressing it). Additionally, [[User:Nazirbashir|Nazirbashir]], make sure that your signature contains a link to your User page, like this: [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 02:25, 22 January 2011 (UTC) (it's part of the [[Bulbapedia:Signature_policy|policy]])
::just because other sites do something doesnt mean we should. i guess you could say our "Origin of Species" is similar to a PotW, only better. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[Special:Contributions/MAGNEDETH|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 05:36, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Where Origin of Species gone anyway? I havent seen one since Septemberish. '''D[[User talk:Dark Lord|ark Lord]]''' 18:17, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
::::The author of the column is currently on hiatus. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 01:19, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

== Save page error ==

I just don't get this. Every once in a while when I try to save an edit, the website says "This page is restricted to the following" even though I am a user--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 02:16, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
:It's probably a session loss error, causing it to behave as if you were logged out. If clicking back and trying again doesn't fix it, then logging out and then back in again should. The tech people are aware of the problem, but haven't yet been able to find what's causing it so they can fix it. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 02:27, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

::It's not a big problem for me. I just wanted to see if anyone else had this issue.--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 02:04, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

==Logging me out?!==
It keeps randomly logging me out! It's really annoying when, say, I've done an edit it won't let me save, but then sometimesI'm logged back in when I click on another page! What's going on? And before you ask, it's not my computer, it does it on the laptop as well. --[[User:Juzey|Juze]][[Shaymin (Pokémon)|y]] ''([[User talk:Juzey|Talk]])'' 11:58, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
:Sounds like a cookie problem to me. Also this isn't related to the Main Page, which is what this talk is for. It asks at the top for you to consider posting items unrelated to the Main Page, [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/forumdisplay.php?f=195 on the forum]. You'd likely get a better response there anyway. [[User:Smashman|Smashman]] 12:06, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
::It's either a cookie problem or a session loss problem. The second is an issue that has been going on for a while, but the tech guys haven't been able to figure out what's causing it in order to fix it. If it happens again, click back and try again. It should go through after a few attempts. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 01:24, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Thanks, it's just really annoying! --[[User:Juzey|Juzey]][[Shaymin (Pokémon)|!!]] ''([[User talk:Juzey|Talk]])'' 13:03, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

==Did You Know Section==

This hasn't been updated in months, it's pretty dead at this point. Does anyone have any good trivial facts for it? [[User:Igglybuff63|Igglybuff63]] 13:36, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
:The trivia up at the moment seems alright to me, but maybe we could add more. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 14:00, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

== Idea for Pronunciations ==

Listen, I have an idea about the pronunciations: You can list ALL of the pronunciations, and say where they're from! Sound good? [[User:Magikarp123193|magikarp123193]] 01:03, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
:Nope, we had this done before. It was shortly removed afterwards as there was many conflicts from various sources on how to pronounce it. --[[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''☆''']][[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''Pikachu!''']] 01:12, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
::Erm... I think magikarp123193 means "list all of the conflicting pronunciations (anime, guides, etc.) for ''each species''," unless you're trying to say that there are just way, way too many different pronunciations for, say, Glalie. —[[User:Minimiscience|Minimiscience]] 01:44, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
:::I think it sounds like a good idea! --[[User:Juzey|Juzey]][[Shaymin (Pokémon)|!!]] ''([[User talk:Juzey|Talk]])'' 13:07, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
::::Oh no, no damn way. I remember the last time that happened. Also, having all pronounciation is just tedious and stupid.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Reshiram (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Zekrom (Pokémon)|ire]] 13:20, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::Why; what happened? [[User:Magikarp123193|magikarp123193]] 23:53, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
:::::EDIT: Oh, and by the way, I don't mean using sound clips; those are O-U-T OUT. [[User:Magikarp123193|magikarp123193]] 23:55, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
::::::Wait, hold on, I think this is a great idea. Pokémon Battle Revolution has all the Pokémon names through Gen. IV pronounced like they're supposed to be. PBR is a canon game made correctly by Nintendo, and 4Kids has has some inaccuracies in the past. I think if a conflict arises we should just consult PBR. [[User:Igglybuff63|Igglybuff63]] [[User talk:Igglybuff63|(Talk)]] 14:36, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

==Anonymous users==
I read somewhere about a discussion on whether anonymous users should be allowed to edit (I think), and I have an idea. How about just letting them edit talk pages? They might have something interesting to say. --[[User:Juzey|Juzey]][[Shaymin (Pokémon)|!!]] ''([[User talk:Juzey|Talk]])'' 10:47, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
:I think that if they have something important to say that they need to say desperately then they will make an account. There is too much room for vandalism amongst anonymous, unregulated users. I say it's a bad idea however it is approached.--[[User:Daniel1993|だにえる - 千九百九十三 ]] 20:50, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
::I suppose you do have a point.--[[User:Juzey|Juzey]][[Shaymin (Pokémon)|!!]] ''([[User talk:Juzey|Talk]])'' 11:26, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

== La-dee-FLIPPIN dah... ==
You DO know Nintendo Power posted the rest of the english names, don't you? And that Serebii is using them! Don't believe me? Check it out yourself on Serebii.net. I will expect you guys to use these names from now on! - (User:Oricalu|Ori'''cal'''u) {{unsigned|Oricalu}}

:Unfortunately, what you expect to happen is not something that will happen, as has been stated numerous times on the fifth generation Pokémon talk pages (Janovy rings a bell), it is not known where this list came from, and as a result is not a reliable source of information regardless of the correctness of the current information it contains. If the list did appear in Nintedo Power (which Serebii hasn't stated per your argument) I'd say the editorial board would then make another decision. Until such a time that the names are seen used in official sources (Nintendo themselves for example, which contained the most recent batch of English names) the pages won't be moved. As per what is the editorial boards decision. --[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] 00:29, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
::What issue do you or Serebii have that this list comes from? I have the February issue and it only lists the ones we have moved. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 04:14, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Every name on that list so far has been true. Just sayin! - [User:Oricalu|Ori''cal''u]{{unsigned|Oricalu}}
:Just because they have been right so far doesn't mean they are all right. We will wait for official conformation. Also, next time you post sign your post. --[[User:Daniel1993|だにえる - 千九百九十三 ]] 16:53, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Once again, all the names revealed today were the SAME FLIPPIN NAMES on Serebii! Every last one I knew! New names aren't that fun when you know them, so let's just use the new list! I'm tellin ya, Serebii and the rest of the world are right! - [[User:Oricalu|Ori'''cal'''u]]
:Yeah, I'm with this guy. How many names have to be revealed before you all realize that the list can't possibly be fake? And don't say "all of them", either. I mean, Serebii updated with the names, that should be good enough for anybody. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 13:48, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
::Finally! Someone who agrees with me! - [[User:Oricalu|Ori'''cal'''u]]

At least update Meloetta's Form Names; Voice form is "Aria Form" and Step form is "Pirouette Form" - [[User:Oricalu|Ori'''cal'''u]] [[User:Oricalu|Oricalu]] 14:05, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Even though there is a list of all the names and it's been correct so far (and will probably be right about the other names), the remaining names on the list have not been confirmed officially by Nintendo, which means it's not officially canon yet. Remember, this is a wiki, not a fansite. Even though I don't think Serebii made a bad decision about trusting the list, but Serebii is not "official" and can take the risk of getting a few names wrong. - [[User:Togelover]]
:Just because Serebii says they are real does not mean we will put him. He is not and will not be an "official" source because the names have been confirmed so far. Unless we get some type of non-fan site confirmation, we will post them. Until then you can wait. --[[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''☆''']][[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''Pikachu!''']] 23:59, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

== Another random bit of trivia about B/W ==

I saw the "Did You Know" thing about B/W getting a 40/40 in the magazine, and I also wanted to note that they got a 8.75 in Game Informer, which is the highest I'VE seen a Pokemon game get in that magazine. {{Unsigned|Tailzfoxy96}}
:However the significance of the 40/40 is that Famitsu (the magazine in question) very rarely gives perfect scores whereas this other rating is not a perfect score and no matter how high the score or how low previous scores have been it is still not trivia-worthy. --[[User:Daniel1993|だにえる - 千九百九十三 ]] 17:05, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

== Bots Bots Bots! ==

I know this isn't the place for this, but what is with all of the bots on Bulbapedia lately? Have we ever had it this badly? --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 22:49, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
: They broke through the Capcha, we can't stop them now. [[User:Gliscorguy54|Gliscorguy54]] 22:51, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
::Didn't you ask Jello the same question a few days ago? [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 23:33, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
:::Kinda, I asked how they got through the Captcha. Now, I'm asking why the new bot account rate seems to be increasing and if there is some sort of pattern i.e. everytime new games are released. --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 01:31, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
::::Well, duh. If a game is being released, then there is a great influx of readers. With the good comes the bad. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 16:46, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
:::::Okay, well it appears the spam bots have been creating a TON of ''weight loss'' articles. It's not like the bunches of speculation we've ''also'' been getting. Since the spambots have a common factor in their spam, then it's clear that they are all related somehow. Whether they are being created by a company or business is beyond me, but this is beginning to be a bit too much like a forum discussion, so we should just let the admins handle it and get back to editing the mainspace before getting into a big off-topic discussion. --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 21:53, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
::::::From reading a MediaWiki users' forum and asking operators of other wikis, it seems that someone has just written bot code and is in the process of sending the bots through a list of wikis he's found somewhere. We are not the only wiki being targeted with this kind of action. (And to be honest, I'm surprised the bots can land any edits, given the amount of session loss errors around... and please no one start complaining about that now; we know they exist and we're working on it.) —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:58, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
:::::::What about this idea: Making it mandatory to have a registered email address to edit this wiki. The reason why there are so many spambots is because an email address isnt required to edit the wiki. If somehow the Mediawiki code can be changed in order to make email registration mandatory.--[[User:PresidentMudkip|PresidentMudkip]] 01:05, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
::::::::As far as I'm aware, email address confirmation has been required to edit mainspace pages for a long time now, since before I joined in late 2008. These bots must therefore be able to confirm their email addresses. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 01:38, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

== Pokemon Game Synopsis? ==

I've scoured Bulbapedia and google for the synopsis of the Pokemon games but can't find them at all! Can anyone point me to them?
Eg, How each games unfolds and how they link into eachother (I know there's a lot to do with gen I in the gen II games)
Thanks! [[User:Dazzaclarke|Dazzaclarke]] 20:06, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
:I believe the closest you can get to a synopsis of the story is rather each article's Plot section such as [[Pokémon Red and Green Versions#Plot|this]]. OR For a walk through the plot of each game you can look here: [[Bulbapedia:Project Walkthroughs/To-do list|Walkthroughs]]. --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 23:50, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
::You could also try [[history of the Pokémon world]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 00:54, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

== Date ==

Um, today is not march 4th... [[User:Mesuxelf|Mesprit]], [[User talk:Mesuxelf|Uxie]], [[User:Mesuxelf|Azelf]]. Mesuxelf 00:03, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
:It is currently March 4th, UTC. --[[User:Carmenstar97|Carmen]] ''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|(Talk |]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|Contributions)]]'' 00:07, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
:: it is 7:42 PM, march 3rd.. [[User:Mesuxelf|Mesprit]], [[User talk:Mesuxelf|Uxie]], [[User:Mesuxelf|Azelf]]. Mesuxelf 00:42, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
:::Only if you are in the Eastern Standard Timezone. The timer on the main page is measuring in Greenwich Mean Time.--[[user:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] I lie in wait...... 00:46, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
:::: Oh, thx! [[User:Mesuxelf|Mesprit]], [[User talk:Mesuxelf|Uxie]], [[User:Mesuxelf|Azelf]]. Mesuxelf 00:47, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
:::::Doesn't Black and White come out on the 6th? Why does it say it's out on the 4th? - [[User:Bpc908|Bpc908]] 00:56, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
::::::Because it comes out in Europe on the 4th, which is today, a couple of days ahead of when it comes out in the US, which is the 6th. --[[User:Jediknightdtv|ジェダイの騎士]][[User talk:Jediknightdtv|デジタルテレビ]] 01:01, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

== Let's count down to March 6 now! ==

Why not? [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]]) 02:19, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
:Uh, what would be the point of that? It is only two days away, and the games are out in English now, since they are out in Europe. It just so happened with Gen V that Europe got the first English language games, instead of the US. --[[User:Jediknightdtv|ジェダイの騎士]][[User talk:Jediknightdtv|デジタルテレビ]] 02:51, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
::[[#Countdown 2|This is why it's not going to happen]]. Full stop. End. Of. Story. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 05:03, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

==Small Idea==

Is it planned exactly what time the website would be lockdowned during game releases? If so maybe you could post a warning on the website banner around what time the website would be locked if possible so users making large edits won't lose all of their work? Just a idea. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 01:48, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
:If you haven't figure it out by now, it's usually during the time of the release of a new game. It's usually locked down to reduce server stress. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 01:59, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
::Yes I realize that but the website was blocked on last friday or so it was fine at 2:30 but blocked at around 3:13 it's very hard to know when it's gonna lock down with no warning. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 02:02, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
:::We don't have a schedule for when the site is locked. It's unfortunate, and we don't do it to inconvenience Bulbapedia editors. When the traffic to Bulbapedia spikes to such a rate which can trigger server outages, we close off editing. This vastly reduces the number of pages being loaded, therefore reducing server use levels. This may happen at any time, especially around new games (although we have had work done to our network of servers recently which should hopefully reduce this in future). I apologise, but there is no way we can give any kind of warning for locking the site. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:06, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
Okay I just wanted to know if it was possible. I know all about the server stress and the chaos it takes to run the site around high traffic times. Thank you for anwsering. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 02:09, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

== Bulba-style templates ==

I see that you are updating many generic templates with a style that fits Bulbawikis better, such as the one for the contents list on many articles. Are you planning on doing the same for the image and category templates as well? [[User:Pokemon lover|ポケモン]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|あいこうか]] 16:50, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

== Emerald animated sprites out of whack ==

Can somebody please explain why all of the animated sprites from Emerald version are playing really fast? --[[User:Fimbulwinter2012|☆'''FiMbUlWiNtEr2O|2'''☆]] 01:49, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
:They look normal to me. What browser are you using? —[[User:Minimiscience|Minimiscience]] 02:33, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
::I'm using Google Chrome. --[[User:Fimbulwinter2012|☆'''FiMbUlWiNtEr2O|2'''☆]] 23:01, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
:::A recent update to Chrome sent them faster for whatever reason.—★[[User:Pika3323|Pika]][[User Talk:Pika3323|3323]] 23:05, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
:::: It appears that the ''Emerald'' sprites are also sped up in Mozilla Firefox for some reason; I viewed the pages of the Hoenn starters to inspect the occurrence, and the problem may be most evident with [[Whiscash]]'s page, as I recall that its "flopping" is typically one of the longer ''Emerald'' animations...[[User:Fenyx4|Fenyx4]] 05:44, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
:::::Firefox, Google chrome, and Opera do this, don't know why. =P Firefox, and Opera support APNG, maybe there is a sacrifice for APNG support?—★[[User:Pika3323|Pika]][[User Talk:Pika3323|3323]] 12:40, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

== Moves in Triple Battles ==

I know you have what positions moves target in Triple Battles but it's not entirely clear. I can't tell whether it means it will hit all 3 opponents or just the 2 non diagonal ones infront of you. If it could be more specific as in which Pokemon it will hit if you are in the centre and which Pokemon you will hit if you are at the side. Thanks. [[User:Lucky V4.0|Lucky V4.0]] 10:41, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
:The diagrams should help, but unfortunately we are half-way through updating them. Most moves which say that they can hit any opponent can only hit adjacent opponents. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 10:48, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

== Moving Sprites for Black and White ==

I have seen how on this site and many others how the Crystal and Emerald sprites move on their list of sprites but ones on DPP and HGSS don't. I can understand because they only flash between 2 separate sprites but for Black and White the sprites are constantly in motion and I have seen moving images of them before on the internet so I don't think it will be a problem to add them to the pages. [[User:Lucky V4.0|Lucky V4.0]] 10:44, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
:Most sprites from DPPtHGSSBW are animated. However, they are animated PNG files, so cannot be seen animated in all browsers. They cannot be seen in Internet Explorer or Google Chrome, while they can in Mozilla Firefox and Opera. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 10:48, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
::Correction: Most sprites from BW ''should'' be animated, but I don't think all of them have been uploaded yet. In particular, I believe we lack the animated sprites for a number of National Dex Pokémon. Unfortunately, it's a bit more complicated than just adding ones you find on the internet: For one, most of the ones you find elsewhere might be the wrong format, and we would also want to get them directly from the game in order to make sure they're completely accurate. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 12:32, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

== Diamond and Pearl themed Main Page ==

The page appears to be a Diamond & Pearl theme today - any particular reason? ----[[Freeze Bolt|Cyclone]][[Totodile|blaze]] ([[User:Cycloneblaze|user]] - [[User talk:Cycloneblaze|talk]]) 13:51, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
:I would guess it's because Diamond and Pearl has been out for 4 years today in North America. --[[User:Carmenstar97|Carmen]] ''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|(Talk |]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|Contributions)]]'' 14:02, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
::Yes, Carmenstar is right. The main page usually changes its layout in times like these, this time is for the fourth anniversary of Diamond and Pearl. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 14:14, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

== Irrelevant info ==
May I make a statement? Other users (Kenji-girl, for example) won't let me delete irrelevant information! Block them and remove all irrelevant info! Please? It will make this Wiki more efficient!{{unsigned|Magikarp123193}}
:Said user is a Super Admin, meaning that '''''she''''' can block '''''you''''' and that she knows what she is doing [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 22:23, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
::Yeah, well, Sonic News Network doesn't allow irrelevant info, saying it's not needed! Who's right? [[User:Magikarp123193|magikarp123193]] 21:53, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

== Shorthand route naming system ==

Would it be a good idea to have a shorthand method of referring to routes, for example

*R1 links to route 1
*UR1 links to Unova route 1
Is this a good idea? [[User:Mattrules161|Mattrules161]] 11:00, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
:Too many things can be considered "R". I know, for example, that the Japanese cards have recently been listing Rare as R on cards and UltraRare as UR. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 11:29, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

:Yes, but this would always be followed by a number to avoid confusion. If needed a disambiguation page could be placed at R to link to Route and TCG, same at UR except link to Unova[[User:Mattrules161|Mattrules161]] 12:17, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
::UR1 is Reshiram, UR2 is Tornadus, UR3 is Pikachu, UR4 is Zekrom, UR5 is Thundurus, UR6 is Pikachu. This is just one example, plus R1 could also mean the Unova Route 1, since that is what it is called in the game. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 12:20, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
:::The laziness expands. Is it that difficult to type out the word "route"? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:02, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
::::If you want to be more efficient, you could just type "1" into the search box, and then look about halfway down the page... [[User:Tails0600|Tails0600]] 05:50, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

== Stub/glitch template ==

I am having trouble finding the glitch stub template and the glitch template. Help? {{unsigned|Higejolly}}
:See [[Template:stub]]. You will need to write it as <nowiki>{{stub|glitch}}</nowiki>. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:08, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
::Thanks. What about the glitch template?[[User:Higejolly|higejolly]] 00:18, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
:::{{template|GlitchPkmn}} that one? If you're not sure, you could find a page that has the template you want and look at the code. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 07:24, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
::::Not it. I'll try to find it.{{unsigned|Higejolly}}
:::::Found it [[User:Higejolly|higejolly]] 12:06, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

== Its Not A Stub ==

I fixed [[Jenny (movie)]] so why is it a featured stub still

[[User:DrBrock|DrBrock]] 13:06, 8 May 2011 (UTC) DrBrock
:All you really did was add the VA. It's still very short. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:48, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Main Page/Archive 11

2011-04-22T22:17:21Z

Magikarp123193: /* Irrelevant info */ new section

This is the {{bp|talk page}} for the Bulbapedia's front page. If you have a general comment about the wiki, please consider placing it in [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/forumdisplay.php?f=195 our forum].'''

== Previous discussions ==

* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 1|Archive 1]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 2|Archive 2]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 3|Archive 3]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 4|Archive 4]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 5|Archive 5]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 6|Archive 6]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 7|Archive 7]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 8|Archive 8]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 9|Archive 9]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 10|Archive 10]]

== Pokémon cries? ==
Should we add Pokémon cries to the Pokémon articles?--[[User:Starman125|Starman125]] 20:18, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
:It's been tried before, but it caused too many problems. It would still probably cause too much problems now.--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 20:23, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
:::[[Talk:Main Page/Archive 10#Pokémon Cries|This has been discussed to death already.]] —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 20:24, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
::::We're going to try to get them put in as soon as possible. They've been sitting in a directory on the server for... jeez, at least a year. Last time we tried to put them in, the server exploded. Archaic's been wary of doing it since then. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:35, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::Just out of curiosity, what file format was used for the cries? That may have been the problem.--[[User:Starman125|Starman125]] 20:54, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
::::::Over at de:, we have mp3 with the following syntax: <nowiki>{{#mp3:http://www.greenchu.de/nakigoe/025.mp3}}</nowiki>. I cannot figure out where that parser functions comes from, though.--[[User:Afrael|Afrael]] [[User talk:Afrael|talk]] 00:59, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::::I think having the files like [http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/#music Floatzel.net] have their music files could work well. We might even eventually be able to put route/town/cave music on the pages!--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 04:09, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Oh would I ''love'' to do that. Too bad Nintendo would '''destroy''' us for doing so. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:01, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

Why has no one said anything about the roars of Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, and Zekrom in the anime? Cause it should at least in the trivia say that: Dialga uses King Ghidorah's roar. Palkia uses Boga's roar and some of Godzilla's and King Ghidorah's roars. Giratina uses Mothra's roar. And Zekrom uses Megaguirus's roar. I know that its not that important but it is fact so cant it be put in their trivia section on thier pages? Am i the only one that thinks that it should?

== Move Trivia ==

Should there be a trivia section for moves? For instance, only one Pokémon can learn [[Steel Wing]] by leveling up.--[[User:Chalkwriter|Chalkwriter]] 16:26, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
:There are for some moves, but not all of them have any notable trivia to add, so there is no sub heading. If you think of '''notable''' trivia, then add the sub-heading and put it in. Thanks, [[User:Samjohn95|Sam]][[User talk:Samjohn95|john]][[Special:contributions/Samjohn95|95]] 21:38, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

== Glitch Pokémon ==

Hi there. I remember when I was around nine, I used to play Pokémon Gold & Crystal, and I remember there was this cloning trick that could clone pokémon and the items that they held. Anyways, I began to notice if I did the right trick at a certain time, (or whatever it was, it has been a while) I managed to get a special type of Pokémon, the trainer. The trainer of course, had no moves and therefore could only struggle, but you could use TMs and everything. I remember having fun with that, but I can't find any info on this.- ''unsigned comment from {{u|Bublador}} ([[User talk:Bublador|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Bublador|contribs]]) ''

Try this page, all of the glitches are on [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Glitches#All_Generations]] and please sign your comment when you use these talk pages. thank you --[[User:Daniel1993|Daniel1993]] 19:55, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

== Pronunciation ==

I'm just thinking if on every Pokémon's page that we have their Pronunciation somewhere? like this:

Say: Sin-da-qwil

What do you think?--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 07:03, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:It's a good idea, but I believe we've had problems with adding pronunciations in the past because of people not agreeing on the "correct" pronunciation (also, sometimes there are conflicting pronunciations from different official sources) --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 07:06, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
::Oh oh then. I just though because some Pokémon I can't pronounce their names--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 07:21, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:::If you have a look at the source of, say, Bulbasaur's page, you'll see this:
<pre>{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Bulbasaur |
pron=<sc>''bul''-buh-sore</sc> <ref>Barbo, Maria. ''The Official Pokémon Handbook''.
Scholastic Publishing, 1999. ISBN 0-439-10397-5</ref> |
jname=フシギダネ |
tmname=Fushigidane |
</pre>

the "pron=" parameter is not coded into the infobox, so it does appear. But it's there on every Pokemon's page. [[User:Takharii|'''たか''']][[User talk:Takharii|'''はり''']][[Special:Contributions/Takharii|'''い''']] 07:39, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
::::Yes, it's coded in but because of the disagreements on pronunciation and no clear official source for many of them, it was decided to hide them all. If Nintendo or anyone ever releases an official pronunciation guide then we'll be able to put them back up. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:43, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::Is whatever the pronunciation is in the English dub of the anime (and similarly the pronunciation in the Japanese dub for those not yet released over here) not enough to justify it? With the exception of the odd time where they've actually changed the pronunciation during it e.g. Regice... '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 13:46, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

== Artwork?! ==

I hate to be the silly one who starts the "What's going on?!!" discussion, but seriously, why have all the pictures of the Generation I Pokémon been changed to the old Red and Green artwork? Is it for an aniversary or something? [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 10:59, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:Yes. Anniversary of RB was yesterday, so Gen I Pokémon got Gen I art. But due to the server cache it took some a while to switch over, and I believe they should all be starting to switch back now, but again, that'll be whenever the server cache gets updated. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 11:24, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
::Actually, maybe it could be put on a switch, like with Gastrodon's forms, so it could switch between old and new artwork periodically. How's that sound? - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 13:49, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:::That's exactly what it did. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:34, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
::::Oh, so it's still in effect? As in, like, permanently? Because that was what I was suggesting. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 22:36, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::Yes, next year and on certain other days the site will have easter egg effects. Yaaaay for surprises. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:32, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
::::::I won't panic when the Gym Leader pictures are replaced by fan art then... [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 11:53, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Is it the same currently with the Generation II Pokémon and their G/S artwork? [[User:Darthrai|Darthrai]] 19:16, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Yes. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 19:30, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

== just a though... ==

i realise this is probably in the wrong place, but, as unlocking the generation IV nationaldex and requesting a trade on the GTS require only seeing a particular species of pokémon, would it make sense to include a section explaining where to see them. (and i am aware that the GTS has only around a week left). I know that people (granted they are few) have had problems viewing unown and riolu in DP for example.--[[User:Mr-connor|Mr-connor]] 13:03, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

:There is a section explaining where to see, and catch, Pokémon. It's right below the Pokédex Entries section.--[[user:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] I lie in wait...... 13:17, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

'''TYPHLOSION LV:50
KINDRA LV:50
ALAKAZAM LV:50
LUGIA LV:45
TYRANITAR LV:55
DRAGONITE LV:57'''

this is my current team for pokemon soulsilver...i think it has room for improvement.
[[User:The a-team|The a-team]] 21:14, 5 September 2010 (UTC)brandon strayhorn[[User:The a-team|The a-team]] 21:14, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
:This isn't the place to put this. Post it on the forums.--[[User:Cold|Cold]] ([[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 21:20, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

== Bulbagarden Archives ==

I have a problem that I keep sending the confirmation e-mail like every week but it doesn't show up. I'm saying it here because I haven't confirmed my e-mail on Archives. Someone please help me!!!!!!--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 10:26, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
:Have you checked it isn't getting caught by the spam filter on your email? Maybe check that the email address is right too? <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 10:42, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
::Thanks Wardnae, I accidentally wrote the wrong email.--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 23:42, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
== Sizes on Pokémon pages.. ==

Something that's been bugging me for a while. I've been manually going around and resizing the main art boxes at the top of each Pokémon page so they all match each other and look uniform. However, many times box sizes will still be off by a few pixels. Would there be anyway to code something that keeps them all the same size? [http://i54.tinypic.com/28rcc53.png] is an example of what Ii'm talking about. Basically, the box that surrounds the art.~★ '''[[User:Cubic Question|''cubic'']][[User talk:Cubic Question|''QUESTION'']]''' 13:48, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
:Even if you make the width a certain size, the length will be different according to the size of the art. To get it uniform, you would have to make every file have some whitespace so it would be the same size. That won't happen though. The boxes don't really need to be uniform in size. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 20:23, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

== Litsen... ==

First of all, I have a idea of a section in the pokemon's main page. Footprint. It'll be good. also, the Pronunciation topic above^^. We can take Right pronunciation from [http://pokemon.wikia.com/ Pokemon Wiki]. I know its cheating, but, Ill help us. --[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 11:41, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:The footprint is already in each Pokémon's infobox. And, we already discussed that the pronunciation caused conflict, and the Pokémon Wiki is far from a reliable source. So we probably won't be adding the pronunciation to each's Pokémon's page. [[User:Takharii|'''たか''']][[User talk:Takharii|'''はり''']][[Special:Contributions/Takharii|'''い''']] 11:08, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
::By the way I think you were trying to say Listen not Litsen?--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 11:09, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:::Well, Pronunciation is what admins can do when the wiki lets locked. also, wouldn't they need help adding 150 and more pokemon?--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 11:41, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
::::Pronunciation is conflicting. It isn't just hard work. For example, Bonsly was pronounced with an ē once, then with an ī in another time. One was in the movie, the other in the anime, I've just forgotten which. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 11:58, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::Oh Really? We All Know That Charmander is pronounced ''Chaar-man-der''. Easy Enough?? Just search on google for pokemon pronunciation.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 12:05, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
::::::Yeah, no Google searching, thanks. The official sources (Official Handbooks, Anime, and Video Games) don't always agree on pronunciations of Pokémon names. Now, if the official sources all agree at one point, then we will add them. But until then, they're not going on the species pages. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<sc>Kogoro</sc>''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<sc>Talk to me</sc>''']] - 12:16, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
Okay Then. Moving to the next topic. What About Something at the Top of The Pokemon pics To Change the Picture into other generation art or to a Different form?--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 12:25, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:Most form changing Pokémon have their forms rotated based on the current time (see {{p|Arceus}}, then refresh the page). As for different generations, the infoboxes are set to display it on certain days—for example, on the anniversary of Red and Blue the Pokémon pages displayed their Red and Blue artwork (for those that have it). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:44, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

== Doesn't look like the servers are being nice ==

No, I'm not geting 504s (or, if I am, FireFox is hiding them); I'm getting something even worse: pages not loading at all. A couple of days ago, I was going to come here to get a small amount of information, and it took ages to do so (so long in fact that I just got it O_O). I think the servers are being overstressed - despite the fact that I was getting good ping times off of 10 pings to the site's router (if there is one), I couldn't load any pages - not even robots.txt! That is just a simple text document, and it wouldn't even load! I would start the lockdown soon, as the closer to release we get, the more activity we are likely to get.

I consider myself lucky I could even get on right now. [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 06:37, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

:The fifth generation Pokemon are invading Bulbapedia and interfering with the system! I haven't actually noticed any problems yet though, which is strange. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 20:38, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

== Finally! ==

as i mentioned Form changing above, We can use A method for pokemon with 2 different forms like giratina and shellos

Method: All you guys saw Avatar, Everyone Saw. Now See The [http://james-camerons-avatar.wikia.com Avatar Wiki]'s Jake Sully Article. There is a button below the pic to change the Picture into Human/Avatar. We can use that Method.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 16:48, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

:That's a really good idea actually, I think it would be better than the Pokemon's form just changing periodically. Perhaps now Bulbapedia is being upgraded for the fifth generation, it would be a convenient time for recoding the articles. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 20:36, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
::I dunno. Shaymin is also two formes, and changes with time. Shellos and Giratina, by the way, are not random. It's based on the hours. And unfortunately, that just changes the infobox picture; there are '''''several''''' things that change for forme changers. Unless your Ground-type moves miss against Altered Forme Giratina. What's that? They don't? But you can only use Earthquake five times? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:11, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:::Wikimon has a more extensive one that allows you to toggle the whole box, for example in the [http://wikimon.net/Agumon Agumon article], click the tabs. It even integrates the table of contents into it. Pretty clever. - [[User:DanPMK|MK]] ([[User Talk:DanPMK|t]]/[[Special:contributions/DanPMK|c]]) 04:57, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
::::see, only arceus has several things that needed to be changed. what about others?--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 07:52, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::What about Mebukijika and Genesect (yes, Genesect has other formes (I think five or six?)) [[User:Zekasaur|Zekasaur]] 10:53, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

:I also support the toggle idea. By the way, it has been mentioned in Arbok's Pokédex entries that it has at least six different patterns, of which two have appeared in official game art. Maybe it would be worthwhile to also toggle these two the same way? --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 09:05, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
::I say we just stick with actual forme changes, and not include design differences between canons. [[User:PDL|PDL]] 14:24, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

== Metric tags in Pokédex entries ==
All pokedex entries use the imperial units of measurement from the US translation. I suggest adding tags with the metric counterparts for two reasons:

1 - the original Japanese entries use metric units, so it could be seen as "more canon".

2 - there are international users of Bulbapedia (me included) that are not used to imperial units.

For example, the final sentence in Magneton's entry in Yellow could be: ''It raises the temperature by {{tt|3.6F degrees|2°C}} within {{tt|3,300 feet|1 km}}.''

If the staff agrees, I'm willing to go through all Pokedex entries and add the metric values. I know enough Japanese to easily get the official values from the pokedex entries listed on the Japanese wiki, assuming those are correct.

--[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 09:05, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

:Metric system seems like a pretty simple and straightforward thing to include, it's merely a big job to go through ''everything'' and add the metric equivalent. Perhaps starting small, with say the Pokémon infobox only for now, and work our way up (every infobox should list the Pokémon's height and weight, so it's the most prominent use of the imperial system). Pokédex entries are also pretty simple, but I'd also say they're the less important area to work on (no complaints if you want to fix them all yourself, however). --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 11:28, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

::Each Pokemon already have both their imperial and metric height and weight listed in their infobox, except for Generation 5, because their imperial values are not yet officially known. So pokedex entries are the most important area left to work on, as far as I can see. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 13:37, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

:::Unless someone else has a big complaint about it, I don't see why you can't go ahead and update those, in that case. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 14:47, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

::::I have done 101 out of 493 for now. I may have missed a few in scanning all those entries. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 23:59, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

== Question? ==

The option to write in the discussion for the Pokemon Black and White Versions isn't there. Are we not aloud to write there? --[[User:Mew is the Original One|Mew is the Original One]] 21:16, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:Yeah, but only if you're autoconfirmed, meaning you've been registered for a certain amount of time and have made a certain number of edits.--[[User:Cold|Cold]] ([[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 21:22, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
::OK thanks --[[User:Mew is the Original One|Mew is the Original One]] 22:09, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:::What is the amount of time and important edits? [[User:Zekasaur|Zekasaur]] 10:49, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

== 3D Artwork ==

This is something that's been on my mind for a while now, but I couldn't bring it up due to the lockdown. Does anyone else think it would be a good idea to possibly include 3D images of Pokémon and Pokémon moves, like what's done for anime? It could be done in a seperate section or sub-section of the articles. Oh, and I don't mean updating every time a new 3D game comes out; I mean adding images for each time a move or Pokémon has appeared in a 3D game, like images of Pidgeot from its appearances in Pokémon Stadium through Pokémon Battle Revolution. I don't know if this has been brought up before, but is this notion a good idea?--[[User:Black Yin Zekrom|Black Yin Zekrom]] 00:06, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
:Although i don't know much, but taking 3D Pics will be hard and i don't think its a very good idea.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 11:07, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Well, I don't quite know how it's done, but you don't take 3D pics by using a camera or something. The quality of the 3D images here prove that.--[[User:Black Yin Zekrom|Black Yin Zekrom]] 15:25, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

== Lylat Wiki ==

[http://starfoxwiki.org/Lylat_Wiki Lylat Wiki] is now a part of NIWA, Oct 8th and 15th two others will be added, so might wanna add that to your NIWA bar ;] [[User:Malake256|Malake256]] 17:03, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

== Main page design ==

Does no one else think Tsutarja is missing?
We have Bulbasaur, Treecko, Chikorita and Turtwig pics on the main page, but no Tsutarja (or victini if you want the first pokémon in the dex) I can feel it's absence when I look at the page. [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 19:55, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
:main page uses animated minisprites. we dont have Gen V animated minisprites. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[Special:Contributions/MAGNEDETH|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 19:56, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
::Yet. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:09, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
:::I can ''Make'' Them Animate. but it wont we official, and Archives are currently blocked.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 20:33, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
:::I see. That's a little worrying because they're not animated on my screen. [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 17:10, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
::::What browser are you running? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 07:26, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::on chrome and IE they don't work, only firefox. [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 12:44, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::I've heard that they also work on Opera. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 06:04, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Actually,there is a Tsutarja animated sprite Bulbagarden Archives, but there's no space for it. However, a Victini sprite has also been uploaded. [[User:Jlin8002|Jlin8002]] 00:00, 9 October 2010 (UTC)Jlin8002

== Shiny Gen V Sprites ==

I would like to know where we are going to put the shiny sprites for the fifth generation Pokémon. I have the sprites (official). [[User:Zekasaur|Zekasaur]] 10:47, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
:We have them, however we have yet to upload them. I guess I could do them today. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 11:28, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

== Translations ==

This is a big job, and would probably be a bad idea, but could we translate Bulbapedia into other languages? I know that we already have basic translations of Pokémon and Moves, but what about the rest of it?----[[User:Chalkwriter|Chalk]][[User talk:Chalkwriter|writer]] 18:08, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
:May I direct your attention [[Encyclopædiæ Pokémonis|here]] ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 18:09, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

== Clearer distinction between "natural" and Dream World abilities. ==

I think the distinction between pokémon that only have certain abilities through the Pokémon Dream World and those that don't can be made clearer. For example, on pages of separate abilities there is just one table with normal and PDW pokémon all mixed up, while it would be easier to make separate tables for both. I think this would help both users that own Pokémon Black or White and those that don't. Besides that we could also make a category for "Abilities exclusive to Pokémon Dream World", like {{a|Harvest}}. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 00:22, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
:On the separate pages, they are specfically listed in a separate column that says "Dream World ability". That seems separate enough. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 00:24, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
::Yes, but I think it would be easier if for example you are looking for a pokémon that has a certain ability, that you don't have to go through a list of which half of the pokémon are Dream World pokémon. Even for Dream World users like me pokémon in wild and in Dream World are two completely separate things. But yeah, it's not that necessary. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 09:32, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

== Grammar error ==

Being the Grammar Nazi I am, I have spotted an error I can't fix. I accidentally got logged out while editing a userpage, and I noticed there is a lack of space between sentences on the message that explains that new users cannot edit userpages. This is really bothering me, so could anyone with the power to edit the MediaWiki namespace fix it? [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 02:13, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
:Done, I think. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:20, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

== Update on Message to the Editor ==

[[Template:Main Page/Message from the Editor|'''This''']] should be updated, no? I think people would like to know it's been unlocked [[User:Malake256|Malake256]] 02:51, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
: Very true, its more that a month old [[User:Ruberduck0123|'''Ruber''']][[User talk:Ruberduck0123|'''duck''']][[Special:Contributions/Ruberduck0123|'''0123''']] 07:00, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
::It doesn't matter if it's five months old, he edits it when they have an announcement to make, he doesn't have to update it once a month people!! --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 13:46, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

== Bulbanews ==

I have a question : Can only staff members report news to bulbanews or can normal users also report --[[User:Vlade|Vlade]] 15:45, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Bulbanews is a different wiki altogether. Though they're both part of Bulbagarden, both Bulbapedia and Bulbanews have their own front pages. The information you're looking for is on Bulbanews's front page and if you have any other questions about it, it'd make sense to ask on that talk page rather than this one. [[n:Front page|here's a link, for convenience]] [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 20:26, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
:What Kanjo said is correct, but to answer your question, anyone is allowed to report news to Bulbanews. After submission, an admin or columnist needs to move it out of the draft namespace and into the mainspace. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 00:01, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

== Zoroark's Name ==

I think the Ark in its name could be cause it can transform into lots of pokemon like an ark of pokemon and the reason i posted it here cause i cant post it on Zoroark's article . --[[User:Vlade|Vlade]] 16:12, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
:First of all, if you can't post in an article, inquire in the article's talk page (i.e. [[Talk:Zoroark (Pokémon)]]), not Talk: Main Page. Secondly, that's a real stretch: that's not an actual definition of the word ark, it's just a vague metaphor. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 21:07, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

== Before you ask ==

Read the news. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:33, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

:Is it for the Japanese anime writer? If so, I suppose Chimecho is more appropriate than Lugia, considering how the little windchime links to places like Mt. Pyre and Sendoff Spring. It can be in greyscale if desired. Besides, what is more favourable aesthetically is that one may include Chingling too, instead of Lugia all over the place. [[User:Rxhar|Rxhar]] 09:46, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

::It's Lugia because the man is credited with helping to create it. It was on the news post. [[User:Tamah|Tamah]] 23:41, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

:::Well, it was more than a week by now, someone could remember me who edits the main page? --[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 16:14, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

== What'd I do wrong here? ==

[[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:Starck]]

... What happened? [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK]] [[Mudkip (Pokémon)|Leiks]] [[Lucario (Pokémon)|Lucario]] [[User talk:SpecialK|and the]] [[User:Missingno. Master/Celebi Glitch|Celebi Glitch]] 12:46, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
:Just create a page with <nowiki>{{subst:welcome}}</nowiki>.----'''''無限の知性''''' ◎ [[User:Dennou Zenshi|ＤＥＮＮＯＵ]]'''[[Special:Random|◆]]'''[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|ＺＥＮＳＨＩ]] 13:08, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

==EV Listings==

I was just thinking of a very useful idea. On the pages for each route, cave, etc, where the wild Pokémon are listen, I was thinking we should add another column after each Pokémon and say "1 Speed," or "2 Attack," or something. That, paired with encounter and level rates would help a great deal in EV training for all different levels. {{unsigned|Igglybuff63}}
:Well, I admit, this would be useful to some people, but this is an encyclopedia, not a walkthrough. Honestly, I don't see why you can't go to the Pokémon's page and check. I'm not for it, but I'm not exactly saying NO. --[[User:Si6x12|'''Si6''']][[User Talk:Si6x12|'''x12''']] 03:01, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
::I agree completely, however, it would be a nice little touch on the page for convenience. I'm not one of them, but I know some people have incredibly slow computers, and I can easily imagine the frustration of those who have slow connections along with a desire to EV train. [[User:Igglybuff63|Igglybuff63]] 14:00, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
:::I'm thinking no, but I do see a use in it. Perhaps {{bp|Project Walkthroughs}} would be a good place to ask. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 14:07, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
::::Putting every possible bit of information is dumb. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:04, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
:::::But that's not what we'd be doing now, is it? We wouldn't be putting their number, or Dex color, or Egg group, or anything like that, just the EV(s) they give. {{unsigned|Igglybuff63}}
::::::The number should already be there. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:50, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
:::::::No, I'm talking about on the route pages. {{unsigned|Igglybuff63}}
::::::::Don't make me go on a rant about users and clicking links. If you plan to EV train, then just look up the Pokémon that give EVs in whatever. We're an encyclopedia, not an EV training guide. Do some of your own research, dude. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:15, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::This isn't at all a matter of laziness. Heck, I'd be willing to go around and do a ton of the work, assuming I could figure out how to code it (which I can't) It's just a nice touch of convenience for users, you know? I mean, I'm fine if we don't do it, it's just a suggestion, after all. [[User:Igglybuff63|Igglybuff63]] 04:39, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

== Redirection Pages ==

Do we really need those redirection pages with one Pokémon used by a character, the TCG link, and the Pokémon link? We already have the Pokémon used by a character and it's TCG links on the page. I understand the ones for like Pikachu, but ones like Mr. Mime and Gengar don't need to be there, do they? [[User:DarthMartian7|DarthMartian7]] 03:09, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
:This is already being discussed on the forums, so please be patient. '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 03:13, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
::And how soon do we delete {{template|p}}, which I'm sure you all want. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:05, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

== What to do with Dream World artwork. ==

Currently we use some to replace the Sugimori artwork, but what to do when said artwork is avaiable?. Sincerely i thing it would be a waste to just leave the DW artwork floating alone. Do you agree? We should do something with it.
--[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 18:06, 15 November 2010 (UTC) Sorry, forgot signature
:It would be a waste. Also, how come we don't put up the old artwork on the Pokémon's page? It seems a waste not to include it on the page (especially when some trivia refers to it). [[User:Tesh|Teshigigas]] [[User_talk:Tesh|[Talk]]] 18:29, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
::Old artwork '''''is''''' on the pages, they just change from time to time [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 18:36, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
:::not really, Ataro. we are going to find a use for the images, but as of late weve had other things to focus on. rest assured, it will be showcased somewhere and in some way. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[Special:Contributions/MAGNEDETH|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 23:01, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
::::/me keeps reading the "In the Games" sections of pages (hint). [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 00:47, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
:::::Over at [http://www.zeldawiki.org/Main_Page Zelda wiki]they use a code of sorts that makes a picture change every time you refresh the page. It seemed to use a template called <nowiki>{{RandomLinkImage}}</nowiki> for [http://www.zeldawiki.org/Link this page]. I think I've seen simeler on userpages. It varied page to page. --[[User:Pika3323|Pika3323]] 20:34, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
:Maybe each Pokemon's page can feature a gallery of their art from all games. Just a random thought. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 21:17, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
::Eventually. There's always an issue with doing that though. And that is how many damned exceptions there are. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:13, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
:::Um, doesn't each Pokémon page link to a gallery anyway? --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 21:00, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
::::Em, we could show the artwork in the pages for "special" cases, like ivysaur. Ivysaur has purple colored eyes in the anime and Dream World--[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 22:44, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

== Trading pre-Unova ==

Some pokemon such as [[Bulbasaur]] say that you have to "trade" to get the Pokémon when you actually have to get it through Pokéshift, Dream World, or both? When are we going to change this? —[[User:Zekasaur|♫Ze]][[User talk:Zekasaur|kas]][[Special:Contributions/Zekasaur|aur♫]] 03:04, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
:It will likely be changed as soon as someone enters that specific information into the tables. If I recall correctly, the template defaults to saying "trade" if no data is entered. [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 04:58, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

== Preview ==
You know how it seems that everyone forgets to use the preview when they first come on? Well on NWiki, they have something that makes you show preview, and I was wondering if we could use that here. [[User:Gliscorguy54|Gliscorguy54]] 01:30, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
:I actually find that incredibly annoying on NWiki. If you are going around making minor edits, such as relinking, it just gets in the way. I'm pretty sure there is an option here to turn it on in preferences if you like it. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 02:10, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

== File:Ani586WMS.png not displaying ==

Could someone work on this? The file [[a:File:Ani586WMS.png]] isn't showing up on the main page. I checked the Archives and found that the filename is correct, but somehow or another it isn't working. Thanks. '''chief[[User:Chiefboz|boz]]''' ''(my [[User talk:Chiefboz|talk]] and [[Special:Contributions/Chiefboz|contributions]])'' 15:44, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
:There is nothing that can be done about this. It is just the archives not synchronizing with Bulbapedia. All we can do is wait for it to fix itself. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 03:28, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
::Hopefully before Christmas...[[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 03:33, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
:::It was actually displaying when MAGNEDETH added it. It fitted in nicely too... --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 04:29, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
::::It seems to be working now. '''chief[[User:Chiefboz|boz]]''' • [[User talk:Chiefboz|talk]] 17:25, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

== Pokémon SIENNA??? Why do we have NOTHING on this? See video ==

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQqH2HV7p10&feature=watch_response

I had no idea there was such a thing as a Sienna version of this!! Please, add the article: {{red link|Pokemon Sienna}}. Thanks! --[[User:Tanaka Shimoya|Tanaka Shimoya]] 13:27, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
:Maybe on [[hack games]]. But it probably isn't notable enough. Take it up on the talk page there. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:36, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
:You couls add it to {{red link|rom hacks}}{{unsigned|Ent3r}}
::No. That page does not and will not exist. The correct page is [[hack games]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 04:57, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
:::On the record, we only add really famous hack games to the [[hack games]] article. I've never heard of this one personally, so it probably doesn't need to be mentioned. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 06:06, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

== "Pokemon Apokelypse" ==

Anyone seen this?:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDX1m0Y2Vkg&feature=watch_response_rev

Looks like we don't have an article on it either. Why doesn't anyone create something about this? --[[User:Tanaka Shimoya|Tanaka Shimoya]] 13:29, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
:[[User:ShinyPikachu/Pokémon Apokélypse]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:36, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

There shouldn't be a page because its fan made. If it were a real Pokémon movie, then there should be a page. Although, I have to admit, it is pretty awesome and would make a cool movie for older Pokémon fans. [[User:Gryffindor1991|Gryffindor1991]] 23:33, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
:[[Bulbapedia:Project Fandom]] --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 14:00, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
:: Just to point out, a heck of a lot of wikis hold pages on notable fan projects. I don't mean projects like "my mate Billy made a hack", but rather projects that caused controversy, were published or otherwise became noteworthy. I think Apokelypse caused enough of a stir, a long with a heck of a lot of controversy about Pokémon canon. One has to commend the whole publicity hoax where the creators staged a theatre viewing of it, too. But on the flip side, seeing as this wiki doesn't even have a page on James Turner, it'd be silly to add a page on something less notable. Meh. Candy for all. [[User:Me, Hurray!|Me, Hurray!]] 20:00, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

== Did you know section: "...the typing of the first Unova Gym Leader is depend''a''nt..." ==

Shouldn't that read "depend'''e'''nt"? The spelling that currently appears on the Main Page isn't really accepted in American or British English. [[User:Ultraflame|Ultraflame]] 19:07, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
:Fixed. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:19, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

== A search bar? ==

Has Bulbapedia ever considered having a bar that would be used similar to the Google toolbar? It could have a place to search for an article on Bulbapedia, maybe even have a link to the home page, recent changes, bulbawiki forum, the archives, etc. This would mean easy access to not just the wiki, but so that people with the toolbar could get to a specific pafe faster as well! --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 22:16, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
:You mean a Bulbapedia Toolbar for a browser? That's something to think about, I guess. Maybe a Firefox addon or something. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:19, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
::Yes. That's what I meant. I'm not sure if it is even possible but if it was it would be very useful for viewing and editing Bulbapedia. --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 03:34, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
:::I would recommend bringing this up on the [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/forumdisplay.php?f=195 BulbaWiki forum]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 00:47, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
I thought there already was a search bar on the bulbagarden main page?
::::Yeah there's one on the main page but it's not accurate like google--[[User:Pika3323|Pika3323]] 22:03, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::Try [[Bulbapedia Search Bar Plugin]]. Anyone know how to program? '''chief[[User:Chiefboz|boz]]''' • [[User talk:Chiefboz|talk]] 04:45, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

== Countdown ==

Are we going to have a countdown for the NA release of Black and White? →'''[[User:Axxonn|ΑΧΧΟΝΝ]][[User talk:Axxonn|fi]][[Special:Contributions/Axxonn|re]]''' 01:54, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
:Why not. I think it's traditional to keep the Christmas garb up until January 5th, so we can change the colorscheme then. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:46, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
::Well can we change the color scheme now?--[[User:Lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 11:46, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Yep. We do it all the time. If look in the hidden code of [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Template:Main_Page&action=edit Template:Main Page], you can see all the alternate ones. Try previewing them on a different page (you won't be able to preview them on Template:Main Page because it is protected). So now that it's the sixth, I guess someone needs to change the colorscheme (I think trom wanted to change to the BW one). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:55, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

== Klink swap. ==

How in the world did everyone switch giaru with klink so FAST? If anyone thinks this is a funny comment I am a new user--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 01:46, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
:Many users, and [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Giaru (Pokémon)]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 02:18, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
::A. It was 3 whole days ago. B. Not many names were revealed. C. The names aren't linked in many places, so it is quick to change them. D. There are tons of people who are available 24/7 to change things as soon as possible. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 14:28, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
:::That would mean at LEAST one hundred users in each time zone! Just HOW many people do we have!--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 18:15, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
::::Read last sentence of [[Template:Forums_notice]]. Bulbabot is an <del>annoying</del> <code>awesome</code> bot that is a <del>tyrant</del> <code>friend</code> to everyone in <del>the world</del> <code>Bulbagarden</code>. However, it gets major things done quickly. [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 20:20, 5 February 2011 (UTC) (And Bulbabot, if you even TOUCH this post, I will <del>kill you</del> <code>give you a cookie</code>.)
:::::Except that Bulbabot is not suitable for those kinds of edits. It can't select a portion of a string (i.e. it can't pick a "Giaru" out of the mittle of a template like "{{p|Giaru}}"). It was all done by human editors. And generally there are 50-100 pages that need changing, and with ctrl+F and copypaste a single user can easily do two or three a minute. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 04:01, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
::::::What in the Nine Hells? Bulbabot can't do {{wp|regular expressions}}? Then what ''can'' it do? Is it written in Visual Basic? —[[User:Minimiscience|Minimiscience]] 04:15, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
:::::::TTE said that at one point. I don't remember where, or whether it was just that he didn't know how to set that himself. Bulbabot's programmer is Zhen Lin, who is currently away. As a result, Bulbabot can't currently be given new tasks. It will continue to perform the tasks it has been programmed to do. For the record, it is written in C#. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 04:36, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

== WHAT HAPPENED?!?! ==

WHAT HAPPENED TO BULBAPEDIA?!?!?!--[[User:Lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 04:48, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
:Nevermind. It's all good now.--[[User:Lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 04:49, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
...What did happen? --'''[[User:Flyingtypefan|~~☆Flyingtypefan☆~~]]''' '''''•[[User talk:Flyingtypefan|Talk]]•''''' '''''[[Delibird (Pokemon)|Holiday cheer]]•''''' 01:32, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

== TCG Proposal ==

While looking at some cards from [[Undaunted]], I came across Hariyama. So I clicked it, and the hue was WAY too bright. Could we adopt a darker color for Fighting type pokemon? [[User:TheTheDragon14|TheTheDragon14]] 23:39, 3 January 2011 (UTC)TheTheDragon14
:Specifically [[Hariyama (Undaunted 14)|this card]]? Yes, I agree. It is a bit bright. I suggest you take this to {{bp|Project TCG}}. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 23:57, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

== Log Out ==

I was changing my signature recently and nearly every time I pressed save I got logged out! What's happening? —[[User:Strongriver|強力な]][[User talk:Strongriver|河川]][[Special:Contributions/Strongriver|!]] 08:42, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
:I am being ignored. Someone help me! —[[User:Strongriver|強力な]][[User talk:Strongriver|河川]][[Special:Contributions/Strongriver|!]] 10:29, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
::I believe the server is having some problems at the moment. See [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showthread.php?t=39109&page=18 here] for a little more information. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 10:32, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

== Animated G5 Sprites... ==

Would it be possible to put in the full, animated versions of the sprites from Generation 5? Generation 2 and 3 sprites are animated... I was also wondering if this would just be too much trouble or would overload the server. You can find the sprites [http://www.arkeis.com/animatedsprites.html/ here.] (good website, I think that they're all accurate. Whoever made it did an awesome job). Also, those sprites wouldn't have to be used, it's just the resource that I found. the files are .gif files... Thanks!!! [[User:Bapplesauce|Bapplesauce]] 02:51, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
:Some of the BW sprites are animated PNGs. We don't want to use GIFs for Generation IV and V sprites. You have to have Firefox in order to see the animation because some browsers don't support it. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 02:57, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
::Oh, that's right- I always used to find some other animated images on here that wouldn't animate... Okay. Well, if anyone finds another way... or can get more animated PNGs... thanks. [[User:Bapplesauce|Bapplesauce]] 03:40, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Just so you know, you don't have to have Firefox; Opera works as well. However, I think those are the only major browsers that support APNG (IE and Chrome don't, I don't know about Safari). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:52, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

==Redirect problem==
[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Special:DoubleRedirects&limit=500&offset=0 O_O]. Uh, were these supposed to redirect to SmashWiki? Interwiki table prob? '''''[[User:HavocReaper48|--Havoc]][[User talk:HavocReaper48|48]]''''' 01:14, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
:I saw that too! I was confused. →'''[[User:Axxonn|ΑΧΧΟΝΝ]][[User talk:Axxonn|fi]][[Special:Contributions/Axxonn|re]]''' 01:21, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
::Yes the were. It comes with the NIWA affiliation. Unfortunately I'm not sure if there's a way to "fix" these redirects so that they don't appear on that page. It's not a problem though. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 01:25, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
:::They do work perfectly fine, but they just fill up that special page. It is a problem with the MediaWiki software. And for the record, only some redirect to SmashWiki; Mario goes to Mario Wiki, Kirby goes to WiKirby etc. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 06:44, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

==Countdown==
Don't know if anyone agrees with me but shouldn't the countdown be changed to the date of the European release considering it's the first English release of B+W?

Edit - Sorry forgot to sign --[[User:Daniel1993|Daniel1993]] 21:21, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
:Yes, it should. And since it's been confirmed, it now does. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 21:29, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

I think it should be the north american one.Wasent it that way with platinum?[[User:KylleyFab4Fan|KylleyFab4Fan]] 23:15, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
:The European date is the closest thing we have to the English release, I don't know what's wrong with that. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 23:18, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
::To clarify what Jello said, the date we use for the countdown is the ''first'' official ''English'' release date. For Platinum it was the North American date, as the North American date was before the European date. For Black and White the European date is first, so we are counting down to that date. If, by some chance, the next main series game(s) is/are released in Australia and New Zealand first (I wish), then we will count down to that date instead. There will be no preference for one English-speaking location over another. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 01:48, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Would putting up multiple countdowns overload the server?--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 18:13, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
::::I don't think that's what Werdnae meant. I think he meant just changing the one countdown to reflect the first official English release date. --[[User:Daniel1993|だにえる - 千九百九十三 ]] 20:52, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::Ah, I get it now.--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 02:11, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
::::::Yes, I was actually meaning changing the existing one (even if only once it had expired). However the same applies for multiple countdowns. The bigger issue (bigger than the server load) is that if we are going to have more than one countdown, we must then include a countdown for ''every'' English release, since we aren't being biased towards any one region. So we would probably end up with five or six, rather than two, and that would be too many. Not server-load too many, although it could prove problematic, but too many space-wise on the main page. If you wish to put your own countdown on your userpage, I remember seeing a template for it floating around in someone's userspace.

::::::The reason we are doing the first English release, rather than the American release, it that this is an Engligh-language site, rather than a specifically North American site. Although the servers are in the US, our webmaster, Archaic, lives in Australia. To make a special case for the North American release would appear as a great big insult to all our non-American users, since we've never done anything like that for the European release when it was second. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 02:27, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

:::::::Not to mention the fact that this ''is'' the first time that the European release date is before the North American one.--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 02:02, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

== Pokemon of the Week ==

We most make a Pokemon of the Week column. Almost every site makes one.
I`m sorry i didn`t sign. --Other help is what i can do. 16:56, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
:First of all, I'm not sure that we need one. We already have the Featured Article, or at least SHOULD have (I think the countdown is supressing it). Additionally, [[User:Nazirbashir|Nazirbashir]], make sure that your signature contains a link to your User page, like this: [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 02:25, 22 January 2011 (UTC) (it's part of the [[Bulbapedia:Signature_policy|policy]])
::just because other sites do something doesnt mean we should. i guess you could say our "Origin of Species" is similar to a PotW, only better. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[Special:Contributions/MAGNEDETH|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 05:36, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Where Origin of Species gone anyway? I havent seen one since Septemberish. '''D[[User talk:Dark Lord|ark Lord]]''' 18:17, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
::::The author of the column is currently on hiatus. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 01:19, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

== Save page error ==

I just don't get this. Every once in a while when I try to save an edit, the website says "This page is restricted to the following" even though I am a user--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 02:16, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
:It's probably a session loss error, causing it to behave as if you were logged out. If clicking back and trying again doesn't fix it, then logging out and then back in again should. The tech people are aware of the problem, but haven't yet been able to find what's causing it so they can fix it. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 02:27, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

::It's not a big problem for me. I just wanted to see if anyone else had this issue.--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 02:04, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

==Logging me out?!==
It keeps randomly logging me out! It's really annoying when, say, I've done an edit it won't let me save, but then sometimesI'm logged back in when I click on another page! What's going on? And before you ask, it's not my computer, it does it on the laptop as well. --[[User:Juzey|Juze]][[Shaymin (Pokémon)|y]] ''([[User talk:Juzey|Talk]])'' 11:58, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
:Sounds like a cookie problem to me. Also this isn't related to the Main Page, which is what this talk is for. It asks at the top for you to consider posting items unrelated to the Main Page, [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/forumdisplay.php?f=195 on the forum]. You'd likely get a better response there anyway. [[User:Smashman|Smashman]] 12:06, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
::It's either a cookie problem or a session loss problem. The second is an issue that has been going on for a while, but the tech guys haven't been able to figure out what's causing it in order to fix it. If it happens again, click back and try again. It should go through after a few attempts. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 01:24, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Thanks, it's just really annoying! --[[User:Juzey|Juzey]][[Shaymin (Pokémon)|!!]] ''([[User talk:Juzey|Talk]])'' 13:03, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

==Did You Know Section==

This hasn't been updated in months, it's pretty dead at this point. Does anyone have any good trivial facts for it? [[User:Igglybuff63|Igglybuff63]] 13:36, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
:The trivia up at the moment seems alright to me, but maybe we could add more. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 14:00, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

== Idea for Pronunciations ==

Listen, I have an idea about the pronunciations: You can list ALL of the pronunciations, and say where they're from! Sound good? [[User:Magikarp123193|magikarp123193]] 01:03, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
:Nope, we had this done before. It was shortly removed afterwards as there was many conflicts from various sources on how to pronounce it. --[[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''☆''']][[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''Pikachu!''']] 01:12, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
::Erm... I think magikarp123193 means "list all of the conflicting pronunciations (anime, guides, etc.) for ''each species''," unless you're trying to say that there are just way, way too many different pronunciations for, say, Glalie. —[[User:Minimiscience|Minimiscience]] 01:44, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
:::I think it sounds like a good idea! --[[User:Juzey|Juzey]][[Shaymin (Pokémon)|!!]] ''([[User talk:Juzey|Talk]])'' 13:07, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
::::Oh no, no damn way. I remember the last time that happened. Also, having all pronounciation is just tedious and stupid.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Reshiram (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Zekrom (Pokémon)|ire]] 13:20, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::Why; what happened? [[User:Magikarp123193|magikarp123193]] 23:53, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
:::::EDIT: Oh, and by the way, I don't mean using sound clips; those are O-U-T OUT. [[User:Magikarp123193|magikarp123193]] 23:55, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
::::::Wait, hold on, I think this is a great idea. Pokémon Battle Revolution has all the Pokémon names through Gen. IV pronounced like they're supposed to be. PBR is a canon game made correctly by Nintendo, and 4Kids has has some inaccuracies in the past. I think if a conflict arises we should just consult PBR. [[User:Igglybuff63|Igglybuff63]] [[User talk:Igglybuff63|(Talk)]] 14:36, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

==Anonymous users==
I read somewhere about a discussion on whether anonymous users should be allowed to edit (I think), and I have an idea. How about just letting them edit talk pages? They might have something interesting to say. --[[User:Juzey|Juzey]][[Shaymin (Pokémon)|!!]] ''([[User talk:Juzey|Talk]])'' 10:47, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
:I think that if they have something important to say that they need to say desperately then they will make an account. There is too much room for vandalism amongst anonymous, unregulated users. I say it's a bad idea however it is approached.--[[User:Daniel1993|だにえる - 千九百九十三 ]] 20:50, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
::I suppose you do have a point.--[[User:Juzey|Juzey]][[Shaymin (Pokémon)|!!]] ''([[User talk:Juzey|Talk]])'' 11:26, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

== La-dee-FLIPPIN dah... ==
You DO know Nintendo Power posted the rest of the english names, don't you? And that Serebii is using them! Don't believe me? Check it out yourself on Serebii.net. I will expect you guys to use these names from now on! - (User:Oricalu|Ori'''cal'''u) {{unsigned|Oricalu}}

:Unfortunately, what you expect to happen is not something that will happen, as has been stated numerous times on the fifth generation Pokémon talk pages (Janovy rings a bell), it is not known where this list came from, and as a result is not a reliable source of information regardless of the correctness of the current information it contains. If the list did appear in Nintedo Power (which Serebii hasn't stated per your argument) I'd say the editorial board would then make another decision. Until such a time that the names are seen used in official sources (Nintendo themselves for example, which contained the most recent batch of English names) the pages won't be moved. As per what is the editorial boards decision. --[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] 00:29, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
::What issue do you or Serebii have that this list comes from? I have the February issue and it only lists the ones we have moved. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 04:14, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Every name on that list so far has been true. Just sayin! - [User:Oricalu|Ori''cal''u]{{unsigned|Oricalu}}
:Just because they have been right so far doesn't mean they are all right. We will wait for official conformation. Also, next time you post sign your post. --[[User:Daniel1993|だにえる - 千九百九十三 ]] 16:53, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Once again, all the names revealed today were the SAME FLIPPIN NAMES on Serebii! Every last one I knew! New names aren't that fun when you know them, so let's just use the new list! I'm tellin ya, Serebii and the rest of the world are right! - [[User:Oricalu|Ori'''cal'''u]]
:Yeah, I'm with this guy. How many names have to be revealed before you all realize that the list can't possibly be fake? And don't say "all of them", either. I mean, Serebii updated with the names, that should be good enough for anybody. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 13:48, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
::Finally! Someone who agrees with me! - [[User:Oricalu|Ori'''cal'''u]]

At least update Meloetta's Form Names; Voice form is "Aria Form" and Step form is "Pirouette Form" - [[User:Oricalu|Ori'''cal'''u]] [[User:Oricalu|Oricalu]] 14:05, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Even though there is a list of all the names and it's been correct so far (and will probably be right about the other names), the remaining names on the list have not been confirmed officially by Nintendo, which means it's not officially canon yet. Remember, this is a wiki, not a fansite. Even though I don't think Serebii made a bad decision about trusting the list, but Serebii is not "official" and can take the risk of getting a few names wrong. - [[User:Togelover]]
:Just because Serebii says they are real does not mean we will put him. He is not and will not be an "official" source because the names have been confirmed so far. Unless we get some type of non-fan site confirmation, we will post them. Until then you can wait. --[[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''☆''']][[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''Pikachu!''']] 23:59, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

== Another random bit of trivia about B/W ==

I saw the "Did You Know" thing about B/W getting a 40/40 in the magazine, and I also wanted to note that they got a 8.75 in Game Informer, which is the highest I'VE seen a Pokemon game get in that magazine. {{Unsigned|Tailzfoxy96}}
:However the significance of the 40/40 is that Famitsu (the magazine in question) very rarely gives perfect scores whereas this other rating is not a perfect score and no matter how high the score or how low previous scores have been it is still not trivia-worthy. --[[User:Daniel1993|だにえる - 千九百九十三 ]] 17:05, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

== Bots Bots Bots! ==

I know this isn't the place for this, but what is with all of the bots on Bulbapedia lately? Have we ever had it this badly? --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 22:49, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
: They broke through the Capcha, we can't stop them now. [[User:Gliscorguy54|Gliscorguy54]] 22:51, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
::Didn't you ask Jello the same question a few days ago? [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 23:33, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
:::Kinda, I asked how they got through the Captcha. Now, I'm asking why the new bot account rate seems to be increasing and if there is some sort of pattern i.e. everytime new games are released. --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 01:31, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
::::Well, duh. If a game is being released, then there is a great influx of readers. With the good comes the bad. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 16:46, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
:::::Okay, well it appears the spam bots have been creating a TON of ''weight loss'' articles. It's not like the bunches of speculation we've ''also'' been getting. Since the spambots have a common factor in their spam, then it's clear that they are all related somehow. Whether they are being created by a company or business is beyond me, but this is beginning to be a bit too much like a forum discussion, so we should just let the admins handle it and get back to editing the mainspace before getting into a big off-topic discussion. --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 21:53, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
::::::From reading a MediaWiki users' forum and asking operators of other wikis, it seems that someone has just written bot code and is in the process of sending the bots through a list of wikis he's found somewhere. We are not the only wiki being targeted with this kind of action. (And to be honest, I'm surprised the bots can land any edits, given the amount of session loss errors around... and please no one start complaining about that now; we know they exist and we're working on it.) —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:58, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
:::::::What about this idea: Making it mandatory to have a registered email address to edit this wiki. The reason why there are so many spambots is because an email address isnt required to edit the wiki. If somehow the Mediawiki code can be changed in order to make email registration mandatory.--[[User:PresidentMudkip|PresidentMudkip]] 01:05, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
::::::::As far as I'm aware, email address confirmation has been required to edit mainspace pages for a long time now, since before I joined in late 2008. These bots must therefore be able to confirm their email addresses. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 01:38, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

== Pokemon Game Synopsis? ==

I've scoured Bulbapedia and google for the synopsis of the Pokemon games but can't find them at all! Can anyone point me to them?
Eg, How each games unfolds and how they link into eachother (I know there's a lot to do with gen I in the gen II games)
Thanks! [[User:Dazzaclarke|Dazzaclarke]] 20:06, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
:I believe the closest you can get to a synopsis of the story is rather each article's Plot section such as [[Pokémon Red and Green Versions#Plot|this]]. OR For a walk through the plot of each game you can look here: [[Bulbapedia:Project Walkthroughs/To-do list|Walkthroughs]]. --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 23:50, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
::You could also try [[history of the Pokémon world]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 00:54, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

== Date ==

Um, today is not march 4th... [[User:Mesuxelf|Mesprit]], [[User talk:Mesuxelf|Uxie]], [[User:Mesuxelf|Azelf]]. Mesuxelf 00:03, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
:It is currently March 4th, UTC. --[[User:Carmenstar97|Carmen]] ''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|(Talk |]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|Contributions)]]'' 00:07, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
:: it is 7:42 PM, march 3rd.. [[User:Mesuxelf|Mesprit]], [[User talk:Mesuxelf|Uxie]], [[User:Mesuxelf|Azelf]]. Mesuxelf 00:42, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
:::Only if you are in the Eastern Standard Timezone. The timer on the main page is measuring in Greenwich Mean Time.--[[user:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] I lie in wait...... 00:46, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
:::: Oh, thx! [[User:Mesuxelf|Mesprit]], [[User talk:Mesuxelf|Uxie]], [[User:Mesuxelf|Azelf]]. Mesuxelf 00:47, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
:::::Doesn't Black and White come out on the 6th? Why does it say it's out on the 4th? - [[User:Bpc908|Bpc908]] 00:56, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
::::::Because it comes out in Europe on the 4th, which is today, a couple of days ahead of when it comes out in the US, which is the 6th. --[[User:Jediknightdtv|ジェダイの騎士]][[User talk:Jediknightdtv|デジタルテレビ]] 01:01, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

== Let's count down to March 6 now! ==

Why not? [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]]) 02:19, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
:Uh, what would be the point of that? It is only two days away, and the games are out in English now, since they are out in Europe. It just so happened with Gen V that Europe got the first English language games, instead of the US. --[[User:Jediknightdtv|ジェダイの騎士]][[User talk:Jediknightdtv|デジタルテレビ]] 02:51, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
::[[#Countdown 2|This is why it's not going to happen]]. Full stop. End. Of. Story. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 05:03, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

==Small Idea==

Is it planned exactly what time the website would be lockdowned during game releases? If so maybe you could post a warning on the website banner around what time the website would be locked if possible so users making large edits won't lose all of their work? Just a idea. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 01:48, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
:If you haven't figure it out by now, it's usually during the time of the release of a new game. It's usually locked down to reduce server stress. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 01:59, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
::Yes I realize that but the website was blocked on last friday or so it was fine at 2:30 but blocked at around 3:13 it's very hard to know when it's gonna lock down with no warning. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 02:02, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
:::We don't have a schedule for when the site is locked. It's unfortunate, and we don't do it to inconvenience Bulbapedia editors. When the traffic to Bulbapedia spikes to such a rate which can trigger server outages, we close off editing. This vastly reduces the number of pages being loaded, therefore reducing server use levels. This may happen at any time, especially around new games (although we have had work done to our network of servers recently which should hopefully reduce this in future). I apologise, but there is no way we can give any kind of warning for locking the site. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:06, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
Okay I just wanted to know if it was possible. I know all about the server stress and the chaos it takes to run the site around high traffic times. Thank you for anwsering. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 02:09, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

== Bulba-style templates ==

I see that you are updating many generic templates with a style that fits Bulbawikis better, such as the one for the contents list on many articles. Are you planning on doing the same for the image and category templates as well? [[User:Pokemon lover|ポケモン]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|あいこうか]] 16:50, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

== Emerald animated sprites out of whack ==

Can somebody please explain why all of the animated sprites from Emerald version are playing really fast? --[[User:Fimbulwinter2012|☆'''FiMbUlWiNtEr2O|2'''☆]] 01:49, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
:They look normal to me. What browser are you using? —[[User:Minimiscience|Minimiscience]] 02:33, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
::I'm using Google Chrome. --[[User:Fimbulwinter2012|☆'''FiMbUlWiNtEr2O|2'''☆]] 23:01, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
:::A recent update to Chrome sent them faster for whatever reason.—★[[User:Pika3323|Pika]][[User Talk:Pika3323|3323]] 23:05, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
:::: It appears that the ''Emerald'' sprites are also sped up in Mozilla Firefox for some reason; I viewed the pages of the Hoenn starters to inspect the occurrence, and the problem may be most evident with [[Whiscash]]'s page, as I recall that its "flopping" is typically one of the longer ''Emerald'' animations...[[User:Fenyx4|Fenyx4]] 05:44, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
:::::Firefox, Google chrome, and Opera do this, don't know why. =P Firefox, and Opera support APNG, maybe there is a sacrifice for APNG support?—★[[User:Pika3323|Pika]][[User Talk:Pika3323|3323]] 12:40, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

== Moves in Triple Battles ==

I know you have what positions moves target in Triple Battles but it's not entirely clear. I can't tell whether it means it will hit all 3 opponents or just the 2 non diagonal ones infront of you. If it could be more specific as in which Pokemon it will hit if you are in the centre and which Pokemon you will hit if you are at the side. Thanks. [[User:Lucky V4.0|Lucky V4.0]] 10:41, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
:The diagrams should help, but unfortunately we are half-way through updating them. Most moves which say that they can hit any opponent can only hit adjacent opponents. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 10:48, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

== Moving Sprites for Black and White ==

I have seen how on this site and many others how the Crystal and Emerald sprites move on their list of sprites but ones on DPP and HGSS don't. I can understand because they only flash between 2 separate sprites but for Black and White the sprites are constantly in motion and I have seen moving images of them before on the internet so I don't think it will be a problem to add them to the pages. [[User:Lucky V4.0|Lucky V4.0]] 10:44, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
:Most sprites from DPPtHGSSBW are animated. However, they are animated PNG files, so cannot be seen animated in all browsers. They cannot be seen in Internet Explorer or Google Chrome, while they can in Mozilla Firefox and Opera. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 10:48, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
::Correction: Most sprites from BW ''should'' be animated, but I don't think all of them have been uploaded yet. In particular, I believe we lack the animated sprites for a number of National Dex Pokémon. Unfortunately, it's a bit more complicated than just adding ones you find on the internet: For one, most of the ones you find elsewhere might be the wrong format, and we would also want to get them directly from the game in order to make sure they're completely accurate. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 12:32, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

== Diamond and Pearl themed Main Page ==

The page appears to be a Diamond & Pearl theme today - any particular reason? ----[[Freeze Bolt|Cyclone]][[Totodile|blaze]] ([[User:Cycloneblaze|user]] - [[User talk:Cycloneblaze|talk]]) 13:51, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
:I would guess it's because Diamond and Pearl has been out for 4 years today in North America. --[[User:Carmenstar97|Carmen]] ''[[User talk:Carmenstar97|(Talk |]] [[Special:Contributions/Carmenstar97|Contributions)]]'' 14:02, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
::Yes, Carmenstar is right. The main page usually changes its layout in times like these, this time is for the fourth anniversary of Diamond and Pearl. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 14:14, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

== Irrelevant info ==

May I make a statement? Other users (Kenji-girl, for example) won't let me delete irrelevant information! Block them and remove all irrelevant info! Please? It will make this Wiki more efficient!

Chaos Control (TCG)

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{{DeckInfobox
|title=Chaos Control
|expansion={{TCG|Unleashed}}
|image=TCG Chaos Control logo.png
|caption=Logo
|types={{e|Psychic}}{{e|Fighting}}{{e|Darkness}}
|coin={{p|Tyranitar}}
}}

The '''Chaos Control''' {{TCG|Theme Deck}} from the {{TCG|Unleashed}} expansion of the [[Pokémon Trading Card Game]] predominantly focuses on {{e|Psychic}}, {{e|Fighting}}, and {{e|Darkness}}-type Pokémon and contains the following cards:
==Cards==
{{decklist/header}}
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Unleashed|Tyranitar|26}}|Darkness||Rare Holo}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Unleashed|Pupitar|38}}|Fighting||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|4|{{TCG ID|Unleashed|Larvitar|50}}|Fighting||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Unleashed|Mismagius|5}}|Psychic||Rare}}
{{decklist/entry|4|{{TCG ID|Unleashed|Misdreavus|54}}|Psychic||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|1|{{TCG ID|Unleashed|Lucario|19}}|Fighting||Rare}}
{{decklist/entry|4|{{TCG ID|Unleashed|Riolu|60}}|Fighting||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Unleashed|Metang|33}}|Psychic||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|4|{{TCG ID|Unleashed|Beldum|44}}|Psychic||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Unleashed|Zubat|70}}|Psychic||Common}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Unleashed|Engineer's Adjustments|75}}|Supporter||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Unleashed|Good Rod|76}}|Goods||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Unleashed|Interviewer's Questions|77}}|Supporter||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Unleashed|Life Herb|79}}|Goods||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|Unleashed|Pokémon Circulator|81}}|Supporter||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|2|{{TCG ID|HeartGold & SoulSilver|Poké Ball|95}} (''HeartGold & SoulSilver'')|Goods||Uncommon}}
{{decklist/entry|11|{{TCG ID|HeartGold & SoulSilver|Psychic Energy|119}}|Energy|Psychic|Common}}
{{decklist/entry|10|{{TCG ID|HeartGold & SoulSilver|Fighting Energy|120}}|Energy|Fighting|Common}}
{{decklist/entry|3|{{TCG ID|HeartGold & SoulSilver|Darkness Energy|121}}|Energy|Darkness|Common}}
{{decklist/footer}}

*The holographic version of Tyranitar is exclusive to this deck, as it only appears as a non-holographic card in the main set.
*The non-holographic version of Mismagius is exclusive to this deck, as it only appears as holographic card in the main set.

Like other Theme Decks, Chaos Control also includes a rulebook, damage counters, status counters, a custom coin ({{p|Tyranitar}}), one single-player mat and a card list (inside the rulebook).
{{-}}

{{ThemeDeck6}}

{{Project TCG notice}}
[[Category:TCG theme decks]]

[[de:Chaoskontrolle (TCG)]]

Chaos Control (TCG)

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Chaos Control (TCG)

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Magikarp123193: Irrelevant; Sonic has NOTHING to do with Pokémon.

Talk:Main Page/Archive 11

2011-02-15T23:55:42Z

Magikarp123193: /* Idea for Pronunciations */

This is the {{bp|talk page}} for the Bulbapedia's front page. If you have a general comment about the wiki, please consider placing it in [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/forumdisplay.php?f=195 our forum].'''

== Previous discussions ==

* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 1|Archive 1]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 2|Archive 2]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 3|Archive 3]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 4|Archive 4]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 5|Archive 5]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 6|Archive 6]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 7|Archive 7]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 8|Archive 8]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 9|Archive 9]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 10|Archive 10]]

== Pokémon cries? ==
Should we add Pokémon cries to the Pokémon articles?--[[User:Starman125|Starman125]] 20:18, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
:It's been tried before, but it caused too many problems. It would still probably cause too much problems now.--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 20:23, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
:::[[Talk:Main Page/Archive 10#Pokémon Cries|This has been discussed to death already.]] —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 20:24, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
::::We're going to try to get them put in as soon as possible. They've been sitting in a directory on the server for... jeez, at least a year. Last time we tried to put them in, the server exploded. Archaic's been wary of doing it since then. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:35, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::Just out of curiosity, what file format was used for the cries? That may have been the problem.--[[User:Starman125|Starman125]] 20:54, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
::::::Over at de:, we have mp3 with the following syntax: <nowiki>{{#mp3:http://www.greenchu.de/nakigoe/025.mp3}}</nowiki>. I cannot figure out where that parser functions comes from, though.--[[User:Afrael|Afrael]] [[User talk:Afrael|talk]] 00:59, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::::I think having the files like [http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/#music Floatzel.net] have their music files could work well. We might even eventually be able to put route/town/cave music on the pages!--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 04:09, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Oh would I ''love'' to do that. Too bad Nintendo would '''destroy''' us for doing so. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:01, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

== Move Trivia ==

Should there be a trivia section for moves? For instance, only one Pokémon can learn [[Steel Wing]] by leveling up.--[[User:Chalkwriter|Chalkwriter]] 16:26, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
:There are for some moves, but not all of them have any notable trivia to add, so there is no sub heading. If you think of '''notable''' trivia, then add the sub-heading and put it in. Thanks, [[User:Samjohn95|Sam]][[User talk:Samjohn95|john]][[Special:contributions/Samjohn95|95]] 21:38, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

== Glitch Pokémon ==

Hi there. I remember when I was around nine, I used to play Pokémon Gold & Crystal, and I remember there was this cloning trick that could clone pokémon and the items that they held. Anyways, I began to notice if I did the right trick at a certain time, (or whatever it was, it has been a while) I managed to get a special type of Pokémon, the trainer. The trainer of course, had no moves and therefore could only struggle, but you could use TMs and everything. I remember having fun with that, but I can't find any info on this.- ''unsigned comment from {{u|Bublador}} ([[User talk:Bublador|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Bublador|contribs]]) ''

Try this page, all of the glitches are on [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Glitches#All_Generations]] and please sign your comment when you use these talk pages. thank you --[[User:Daniel1993|Daniel1993]] 19:55, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

== Pronunciation ==

I'm just thinking if on every Pokémon's page that we have their Pronunciation somewhere? like this:

Say: Sin-da-qwil

What do you think?--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 07:03, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:It's a good idea, but I believe we've had problems with adding pronunciations in the past because of people not agreeing on the "correct" pronunciation (also, sometimes there are conflicting pronunciations from different official sources) --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 07:06, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
::Oh oh then. I just though because some Pokémon I can't pronounce their names--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 07:21, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:::If you have a look at the source of, say, Bulbasaur's page, you'll see this:
<pre>{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Bulbasaur |
pron=<sc>''bul''-buh-sore</sc> <ref>Barbo, Maria. ''The Official Pokémon Handbook''.
Scholastic Publishing, 1999. ISBN 0-439-10397-5</ref> |
jname=フシギダネ |
tmname=Fushigidane |
</pre>

the "pron=" parameter is not coded into the infobox, so it does appear. But it's there on every Pokemon's page. [[User:Takharii|'''たか''']][[User talk:Takharii|'''はり''']][[Special:Contributions/Takharii|'''い''']] 07:39, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
::::Yes, it's coded in but because of the disagreements on pronunciation and no clear official source for many of them, it was decided to hide them all. If Nintendo or anyone ever releases an official pronunciation guide then we'll be able to put them back up. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:43, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::Is whatever the pronunciation is in the English dub of the anime (and similarly the pronunciation in the Japanese dub for those not yet released over here) not enough to justify it? With the exception of the odd time where they've actually changed the pronunciation during it e.g. Regice... '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 13:46, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

== Artwork?! ==

I hate to be the silly one who starts the "What's going on?!!" discussion, but seriously, why have all the pictures of the Generation I Pokémon been changed to the old Red and Green artwork? Is it for an aniversary or something? [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 10:59, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:Yes. Anniversary of RB was yesterday, so Gen I Pokémon got Gen I art. But due to the server cache it took some a while to switch over, and I believe they should all be starting to switch back now, but again, that'll be whenever the server cache gets updated. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 11:24, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
::Actually, maybe it could be put on a switch, like with Gastrodon's forms, so it could switch between old and new artwork periodically. How's that sound? - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 13:49, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:::That's exactly what it did. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:34, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
::::Oh, so it's still in effect? As in, like, permanently? Because that was what I was suggesting. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 22:36, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::Yes, next year and on certain other days the site will have easter egg effects. Yaaaay for surprises. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:32, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
::::::I won't panic when the Gym Leader pictures are replaced by fan art then... [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 11:53, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Is it the same currently with the Generation II Pokémon and their G/S artwork? [[User:Darthrai|Darthrai]] 19:16, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Yes. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 19:30, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

== just a though... ==

i realise this is probably in the wrong place, but, as unlocking the generation IV nationaldex and requesting a trade on the GTS require only seeing a particular species of pokémon, would it make sense to include a section explaining where to see them. (and i am aware that the GTS has only around a week left). I know that people (granted they are few) have had problems viewing unown and riolu in DP for example.--[[User:Mr-connor|Mr-connor]] 13:03, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

:There is a section explaining where to see, and catch, Pokémon. It's right below the Pokédex Entries section.--[[user:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] I lie in wait...... 13:17, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

'''TYPHLOSION LV:50
KINDRA LV:50
ALAKAZAM LV:50
LUGIA LV:45
TYRANITAR LV:55
DRAGONITE LV:57'''

this is my current team for pokemon soulsilver...i think it has room for improvement.
[[User:The a-team|The a-team]] 21:14, 5 September 2010 (UTC)brandon strayhorn[[User:The a-team|The a-team]] 21:14, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
:This isn't the place to put this. Post it on the forums.--[[User:Cold|Cold]] ([[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 21:20, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

== Bulbagarden Archives ==

I have a problem that I keep sending the confirmation e-mail like every week but it doesn't show up. I'm saying it here because I haven't confirmed my e-mail on Archives. Someone please help me!!!!!!--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 10:26, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
:Have you checked it isn't getting caught by the spam filter on your email? Maybe check that the email address is right too? <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 10:42, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
::Thanks Wardnae, I accidentally wrote the wrong email.--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 23:42, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
== Sizes on Pokémon pages.. ==

Something that's been bugging me for a while. I've been manually going around and resizing the main art boxes at the top of each Pokémon page so they all match each other and look uniform. However, many times box sizes will still be off by a few pixels. Would there be anyway to code something that keeps them all the same size? [http://i54.tinypic.com/28rcc53.png] is an example of what Ii'm talking about. Basically, the box that surrounds the art.~★ '''[[User:Cubic Question|''cubic'']][[User talk:Cubic Question|''QUESTION'']]''' 13:48, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
:Even if you make the width a certain size, the length will be different according to the size of the art. To get it uniform, you would have to make every file have some whitespace so it would be the same size. That won't happen though. The boxes don't really need to be uniform in size. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 20:23, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

== Litsen... ==

First of all, I have a idea of a section in the pokemon's main page. Footprint. It'll be good. also, the Pronunciation topic above^^. We can take Right pronunciation from [http://pokemon.wikia.com/ Pokemon Wiki]. I know its cheating, but, Ill help us. --[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 11:41, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:The footprint is already in each Pokémon's infobox. And, we already discussed that the pronunciation caused conflict, and the Pokémon Wiki is far from a reliable source. So we probably won't be adding the pronunciation to each's Pokémon's page. [[User:Takharii|'''たか''']][[User talk:Takharii|'''はり''']][[Special:Contributions/Takharii|'''い''']] 11:08, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
::By the way I think you were trying to say Listen not Litsen?--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 11:09, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:::Well, Pronunciation is what admins can do when the wiki lets locked. also, wouldn't they need help adding 150 and more pokemon?--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 11:41, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
::::Pronunciation is conflicting. It isn't just hard work. For example, Bonsly was pronounced with an ē once, then with an ī in another time. One was in the movie, the other in the anime, I've just forgotten which. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 11:58, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::Oh Really? We All Know That Charmander is pronounced ''Chaar-man-der''. Easy Enough?? Just search on google for pokemon pronunciation.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 12:05, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
::::::Yeah, no Google searching, thanks. The official sources (Official Handbooks, Anime, and Video Games) don't always agree on pronunciations of Pokémon names. Now, if the official sources all agree at one point, then we will add them. But until then, they're not going on the species pages. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<sc>Kogoro</sc>''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<sc>Talk to me</sc>''']] - 12:16, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
Okay Then. Moving to the next topic. What About Something at the Top of The Pokemon pics To Change the Picture into other generation art or to a Different form?--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 12:25, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:Most form changing Pokémon have their forms rotated based on the current time (see {{p|Arceus}}, then refresh the page). As for different generations, the infoboxes are set to display it on certain days—for example, on the anniversary of Red and Blue the Pokémon pages displayed their Red and Blue artwork (for those that have it). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:44, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

== Doesn't look like the servers are being nice ==

No, I'm not geting 504s (or, if I am, FireFox is hiding them); I'm getting something even worse: pages not loading at all. A couple of days ago, I was going to come here to get a small amount of information, and it took ages to do so (so long in fact that I just got it O_O). I think the servers are being overstressed - despite the fact that I was getting good ping times off of 10 pings to the site's router (if there is one), I couldn't load any pages - not even robots.txt! That is just a simple text document, and it wouldn't even load! I would start the lockdown soon, as the closer to release we get, the more activity we are likely to get.

I consider myself lucky I could even get on right now. [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 06:37, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

:The fifth generation Pokemon are invading Bulbapedia and interfering with the system! I haven't actually noticed any problems yet though, which is strange. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 20:38, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

== Finally! ==

as i mentioned Form changing above, We can use A method for pokemon with 2 different forms like giratina and shellos

Method: All you guys saw Avatar, Everyone Saw. Now See The [http://james-camerons-avatar.wikia.com Avatar Wiki]'s Jake Sully Article. There is a button below the pic to change the Picture into Human/Avatar. We can use that Method.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 16:48, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

:That's a really good idea actually, I think it would be better than the Pokemon's form just changing periodically. Perhaps now Bulbapedia is being upgraded for the fifth generation, it would be a convenient time for recoding the articles. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 20:36, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
::I dunno. Shaymin is also two formes, and changes with time. Shellos and Giratina, by the way, are not random. It's based on the hours. And unfortunately, that just changes the infobox picture; there are '''''several''''' things that change for forme changers. Unless your Ground-type moves miss against Altered Forme Giratina. What's that? They don't? But you can only use Earthquake five times? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:11, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:::Wikimon has a more extensive one that allows you to toggle the whole box, for example in the [http://wikimon.net/Agumon Agumon article], click the tabs. It even integrates the table of contents into it. Pretty clever. - [[User:DanPMK|MK]] ([[User Talk:DanPMK|t]]/[[Special:contributions/DanPMK|c]]) 04:57, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
::::see, only arceus has several things that needed to be changed. what about others?--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 07:52, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::What about Mebukijika and Genesect (yes, Genesect has other formes (I think five or six?)) [[User:Zekasaur|Zekasaur]] 10:53, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

:I also support the toggle idea. By the way, it has been mentioned in Arbok's Pokédex entries that it has at least six different patterns, of which two have appeared in official game art. Maybe it would be worthwhile to also toggle these two the same way? --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 09:05, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
::I say we just stick with actual forme changes, and not include design differences between canons. [[User:PDL|PDL]] 14:24, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

== Metric tags in Pokédex entries ==
All pokedex entries use the imperial units of measurement from the US translation. I suggest adding tags with the metric counterparts for two reasons:

1 - the original Japanese entries use metric units, so it could be seen as "more canon".

2 - there are international users of Bulbapedia (me included) that are not used to imperial units.

For example, the final sentence in Magneton's entry in Yellow could be: ''It raises the temperature by {{tt|3.6F degrees|2°C}} within {{tt|3,300 feet|1 km}}.''

If the staff agrees, I'm willing to go through all Pokedex entries and add the metric values. I know enough Japanese to easily get the official values from the pokedex entries listed on the Japanese wiki, assuming those are correct.

--[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 09:05, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

:Metric system seems like a pretty simple and straightforward thing to include, it's merely a big job to go through ''everything'' and add the metric equivalent. Perhaps starting small, with say the Pokémon infobox only for now, and work our way up (every infobox should list the Pokémon's height and weight, so it's the most prominent use of the imperial system). Pokédex entries are also pretty simple, but I'd also say they're the less important area to work on (no complaints if you want to fix them all yourself, however). --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 11:28, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

::Each Pokemon already have both their imperial and metric height and weight listed in their infobox, except for Generation 5, because their imperial values are not yet officially known. So pokedex entries are the most important area left to work on, as far as I can see. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 13:37, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

:::Unless someone else has a big complaint about it, I don't see why you can't go ahead and update those, in that case. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 14:47, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

::::I have done 101 out of 493 for now. I may have missed a few in scanning all those entries. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 23:59, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

== Question? ==

The option to write in the discussion for the Pokemon Black and White Versions isn't there. Are we not aloud to write there? --[[User:Mew is the Original One|Mew is the Original One]] 21:16, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:Yeah, but only if you're autoconfirmed, meaning you've been registered for a certain amount of time and have made a certain number of edits.--[[User:Cold|Cold]] ([[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 21:22, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
::OK thanks --[[User:Mew is the Original One|Mew is the Original One]] 22:09, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:::What is the amount of time and important edits? [[User:Zekasaur|Zekasaur]] 10:49, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

== 3D Artwork ==

This is something that's been on my mind for a while now, but I couldn't bring it up due to the lockdown. Does anyone else think it would be a good idea to possibly include 3D images of Pokémon and Pokémon moves, like what's done for anime? It could be done in a seperate section or sub-section of the articles. Oh, and I don't mean updating every time a new 3D game comes out; I mean adding images for each time a move or Pokémon has appeared in a 3D game, like images of Pidgeot from its appearances in Pokémon Stadium through Pokémon Battle Revolution. I don't know if this has been brought up before, but is this notion a good idea?--[[User:Black Yin Zekrom|Black Yin Zekrom]] 00:06, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
:Although i don't know much, but taking 3D Pics will be hard and i don't think its a very good idea.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 11:07, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Well, I don't quite know how it's done, but you don't take 3D pics by using a camera or something. The quality of the 3D images here prove that.--[[User:Black Yin Zekrom|Black Yin Zekrom]] 15:25, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

== Lylat Wiki ==

[http://starfoxwiki.org/Lylat_Wiki Lylat Wiki] is now a part of NIWA, Oct 8th and 15th two others will be added, so might wanna add that to your NIWA bar ;] [[User:Malake256|Malake256]] 17:03, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

== Main page design ==

Does no one else think Tsutarja is missing?
We have Bulbasaur, Treecko, Chikorita and Turtwig pics on the main page, but no Tsutarja (or victini if you want the first pokémon in the dex) I can feel it's absence when I look at the page. [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 19:55, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
:main page uses animated minisprites. we dont have Gen V animated minisprites. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[Special:Contributions/MAGNEDETH|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 19:56, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
::Yet. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:09, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
:::I can ''Make'' Them Animate. but it wont we official, and Archives are currently blocked.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 20:33, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
:::I see. That's a little worrying because they're not animated on my screen. [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 17:10, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
::::What browser are you running? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 07:26, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::on chrome and IE they don't work, only firefox. [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 12:44, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::I've heard that they also work on Opera. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 06:04, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Actually,there is a Tsutarja animated sprite Bulbagarden Archives, but there's no space for it. However, a Victini sprite has also been uploaded. [[User:Jlin8002|Jlin8002]] 00:00, 9 October 2010 (UTC)Jlin8002

== Shiny Gen V Sprites ==

I would like to know where we are going to put the shiny sprites for the fifth generation Pokémon. I have the sprites (official). [[User:Zekasaur|Zekasaur]] 10:47, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
:We have them, however we have yet to upload them. I guess I could do them today. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 11:28, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

== Translations ==

This is a big job, and would probably be a bad idea, but could we translate Bulbapedia into other languages? I know that we already have basic translations of Pokémon and Moves, but what about the rest of it?----[[User:Chalkwriter|Chalk]][[User talk:Chalkwriter|writer]] 18:08, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
:May I direct your attention [[Encyclopædiæ Pokémonis|here]] ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 18:09, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

== Clearer distinction between "natural" and Dream World abilities. ==

I think the distinction between pokémon that only have certain abilities through the Pokémon Dream World and those that don't can be made clearer. For example, on pages of separate abilities there is just one table with normal and PDW pokémon all mixed up, while it would be easier to make separate tables for both. I think this would help both users that own Pokémon Black or White and those that don't. Besides that we could also make a category for "Abilities exclusive to Pokémon Dream World", like {{a|Harvest}}. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 00:22, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
:On the separate pages, they are specfically listed in a separate column that says "Dream World ability". That seems separate enough. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 00:24, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
::Yes, but I think it would be easier if for example you are looking for a pokémon that has a certain ability, that you don't have to go through a list of which half of the pokémon are Dream World pokémon. Even for Dream World users like me pokémon in wild and in Dream World are two completely separate things. But yeah, it's not that necessary. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 09:32, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

== Grammar error ==

Being the Grammar Nazi I am, I have spotted an error I can't fix. I accidentally got logged out while editing a userpage, and I noticed there is a lack of space between sentences on the message that explains that new users cannot edit userpages. This is really bothering me, so could anyone with the power to edit the MediaWiki namespace fix it? [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 02:13, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
:Done, I think. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:20, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

== Update on Message to the Editor ==

[[Template:Main Page/Message from the Editor|'''This''']] should be updated, no? I think people would like to know it's been unlocked [[User:Malake256|Malake256]] 02:51, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
: Very true, its more that a month old [[User:Ruberduck0123|'''Ruber''']][[User talk:Ruberduck0123|'''duck''']][[Special:Contributions/Ruberduck0123|'''0123''']] 07:00, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
::It doesn't matter if it's five months old, he edits it when they have an announcement to make, he doesn't have to update it once a month people!! --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 13:46, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

== Bulbanews ==

I have a question : Can only staff members report news to bulbanews or can normal users also report --[[User:Vlade|Vlade]] 15:45, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Bulbanews is a different wiki altogether. Though they're both part of Bulbagarden, both Bulbapedia and Bulbanews have their own front pages. The information you're looking for is on Bulbanews's front page and if you have any other questions about it, it'd make sense to ask on that talk page rather than this one. [[n:Front page|here's a link, for convenience]] [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 20:26, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
:What Kanjo said is correct, but to answer your question, anyone is allowed to report news to Bulbanews. After submission, an admin or columnist needs to move it out of the draft namespace and into the mainspace. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 00:01, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

== Zoroark's Name ==

I think the Ark in its name could be cause it can transform into lots of pokemon like an ark of pokemon and the reason i posted it here cause i cant post it on Zoroark's article . --[[User:Vlade|Vlade]] 16:12, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
:First of all, if you can't post in an article, inquire in the article's talk page (i.e. [[Talk:Zoroark (Pokémon)]]), not Talk: Main Page. Secondly, that's a real stretch: that's not an actual definition of the word ark, it's just a vague metaphor. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 21:07, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

== Before you ask ==

Read the news. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:33, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

:Is it for the Japanese anime writer? If so, I suppose Chimecho is more appropriate than Lugia, considering how the little windchime links to places like Mt. Pyre and Sendoff Spring. It can be in greyscale if desired. Besides, what is more favourable aesthetically is that one may include Chingling too, instead of Lugia all over the place. [[User:Rxhar|Rxhar]] 09:46, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

::It's Lugia because the man is credited with helping to create it. It was on the news post. [[User:Tamah|Tamah]] 23:41, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

:::Well, it was more than a week by now, someone could remember me who edits the main page? --[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 16:14, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

== What'd I do wrong here? ==

[[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:Starck]]

... What happened? [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK]] [[Mudkip (Pokémon)|Leiks]] [[Lucario (Pokémon)|Lucario]] [[User talk:SpecialK|and the]] [[User:Missingno. Master/Celebi Glitch|Celebi Glitch]] 12:46, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
:Just create a page with <nowiki>{{subst:welcome}}</nowiki>.----'''''無限の知性''''' ◎ [[User:Dennou Zenshi|ＤＥＮＮＯＵ]]'''[[Special:Random|◆]]'''[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|ＺＥＮＳＨＩ]] 13:08, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

==EV Listings==

I was just thinking of a very useful idea. On the pages for each route, cave, etc, where the wild Pokémon are listen, I was thinking we should add another column after each Pokémon and say "1 Speed," or "2 Attack," or something. That, paired with encounter and level rates would help a great deal in EV training for all different levels. {{unsigned|Igglybuff63}}
:Well, I admit, this would be useful to some people, but this is an encyclopedia, not a walkthrough. Honestly, I don't see why you can't go to the Pokémon's page and check. I'm not for it, but I'm not exactly saying NO. --[[User:Si6x12|'''Si6''']][[User Talk:Si6x12|'''x12''']] 03:01, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
::I agree completely, however, it would be a nice little touch on the page for convenience. I'm not one of them, but I know some people have incredibly slow computers, and I can easily imagine the frustration of those who have slow connections along with a desire to EV train. [[User:Igglybuff63|Igglybuff63]] 14:00, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
:::I'm thinking no, but I do see a use in it. Perhaps {{bp|Project Walkthroughs}} would be a good place to ask. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 14:07, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
::::Putting every possible bit of information is dumb. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:04, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
:::::But that's not what we'd be doing now, is it? We wouldn't be putting their number, or Dex color, or Egg group, or anything like that, just the EV(s) they give. {{unsigned|Igglybuff63}}
::::::The number should already be there. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:50, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
:::::::No, I'm talking about on the route pages. {{unsigned|Igglybuff63}}
::::::::Don't make me go on a rant about users and clicking links. If you plan to EV train, then just look up the Pokémon that give EVs in whatever. We're an encyclopedia, not an EV training guide. Do some of your own research, dude. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:15, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::This isn't at all a matter of laziness. Heck, I'd be willing to go around and do a ton of the work, assuming I could figure out how to code it (which I can't) It's just a nice touch of convenience for users, you know? I mean, I'm fine if we don't do it, it's just a suggestion, after all. [[User:Igglybuff63|Igglybuff63]] 04:39, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

== Redirection Pages ==

Do we really need those redirection pages with one Pokémon used by a character, the TCG link, and the Pokémon link? We already have the Pokémon used by a character and it's TCG links on the page. I understand the ones for like Pikachu, but ones like Mr. Mime and Gengar don't need to be there, do they? [[User:DarthMartian7|DarthMartian7]] 03:09, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
:This is already being discussed on the forums, so please be patient. '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 03:13, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
::And how soon do we delete {{template|p}}, which I'm sure you all want. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:05, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

== What to do with Dream World artwork. ==

Currently we use some to replace the Sugimori artwork, but what to do when said artwork is avaiable?. Sincerely i thing it would be a waste to just leave the DW artwork floating alone. Do you agree? We should do something with it.
--[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 18:06, 15 November 2010 (UTC) Sorry, forgot signature
:It would be a waste. Also, how come we don't put up the old artwork on the Pokémon's page? It seems a waste not to include it on the page (especially when some trivia refers to it). [[User:Tesh|Teshigigas]] [[User_talk:Tesh|[Talk]]] 18:29, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
::Old artwork '''''is''''' on the pages, they just change from time to time [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 18:36, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
:::not really, Ataro. we are going to find a use for the images, but as of late weve had other things to focus on. rest assured, it will be showcased somewhere and in some way. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[Special:Contributions/MAGNEDETH|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 23:01, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
::::/me keeps reading the "In the Games" sections of pages (hint). [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 00:47, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
:::::Over at [http://www.zeldawiki.org/Main_Page Zelda wiki]they use a code of sorts that makes a picture change every time you refresh the page. It seemed to use a template called <nowiki>{{RandomLinkImage}}</nowiki> for [http://www.zeldawiki.org/Link this page]. I think I've seen simeler on userpages. It varied page to page. --[[User:Pika3323|Pika3323]] 20:34, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
:Maybe each Pokemon's page can feature a gallery of their art from all games. Just a random thought. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 21:17, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
::Eventually. There's always an issue with doing that though. And that is how many damned exceptions there are. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:13, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
:::Um, doesn't each Pokémon page link to a gallery anyway? --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 21:00, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
::::Em, we could show the artwork in the pages for "special" cases, like ivysaur. Ivysaur has purple colored eyes in the anime and Dream World--[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 22:44, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

== Trading pre-Unova ==

Some pokemon such as [[Bulbasaur]] say that you have to "trade" to get the Pokémon when you actually have to get it through Pokéshift, Dream World, or both? When are we going to change this? —[[User:Zekasaur|♫Ze]][[User talk:Zekasaur|kas]][[Special:Contributions/Zekasaur|aur♫]] 03:04, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
:It will likely be changed as soon as someone enters that specific information into the tables. If I recall correctly, the template defaults to saying "trade" if no data is entered. [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 04:58, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

== Preview ==
You know how it seems that everyone forgets to use the preview when they first come on? Well on NWiki, they have something that makes you show preview, and I was wondering if we could use that here. [[User:Gliscorguy54|Gliscorguy54]] 01:30, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
:I actually find that incredibly annoying on NWiki. If you are going around making minor edits, such as relinking, it just gets in the way. I'm pretty sure there is an option here to turn it on in preferences if you like it. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 02:10, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

== File:Ani586WMS.png not displaying ==

Could someone work on this? The file [[a:File:Ani586WMS.png]] isn't showing up on the main page. I checked the Archives and found that the filename is correct, but somehow or another it isn't working. Thanks. '''chief[[User:Chiefboz|boz]]''' ''(my [[User talk:Chiefboz|talk]] and [[Special:Contributions/Chiefboz|contributions]])'' 15:44, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
:There is nothing that can be done about this. It is just the archives not synchronizing with Bulbapedia. All we can do is wait for it to fix itself. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 03:28, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
::Hopefully before Christmas...[[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 03:33, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
:::It was actually displaying when MAGNEDETH added it. It fitted in nicely too... --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 04:29, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
::::It seems to be working now. '''chief[[User:Chiefboz|boz]]''' • [[User talk:Chiefboz|talk]] 17:25, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

== Pokémon SIENNA??? Why do we have NOTHING on this? See video ==

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQqH2HV7p10&feature=watch_response

I had no idea there was such a thing as a Sienna version of this!! Please, add the article: {{red link|Pokemon Sienna}}. Thanks! --[[User:Tanaka Shimoya|Tanaka Shimoya]] 13:27, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
:Maybe on [[hack games]]. But it probably isn't notable enough. Take it up on the talk page there. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:36, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
:You couls add it to {{red link|rom hacks}}{{unsigned|Ent3r}}
::No. That page does not and will not exist. The correct page is [[hack games]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 04:57, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
:::On the record, we only add really famous hack games to the [[hack games]] article. I've never heard of this one personally, so it probably doesn't need to be mentioned. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 06:06, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

== "Pokemon Apokelypse" ==

Anyone seen this?:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDX1m0Y2Vkg&feature=watch_response_rev

Looks like we don't have an article on it either. Why doesn't anyone create something about this? --[[User:Tanaka Shimoya|Tanaka Shimoya]] 13:29, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
:[[User:ShinyPikachu/Pokémon Apokélypse]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:36, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

There shouldn't be a page because its fan made. If it were a real Pokémon movie, then there should be a page. Although, I have to admit, it is pretty awesome and would make a cool movie for older Pokémon fans. [[User:Gryffindor1991|Gryffindor1991]] 23:33, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
:[[Bulbapedia:Project Fandom]] --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 14:00, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
:: Just to point out, a heck of a lot of wikis hold pages on notable fan projects. I don't mean projects like "my mate Billy made a hack", but rather projects that caused controversy, were published or otherwise became noteworthy. I think Apokelypse caused enough of a stir, a long with a heck of a lot of controversy about Pokémon canon. One has to commend the whole publicity hoax where the creators staged a theatre viewing of it, too. But on the flip side, seeing as this wiki doesn't even have a page on James Turner, it'd be silly to add a page on something less notable. Meh. Candy for all. [[User:Me, Hurray!|Me, Hurray!]] 20:00, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

== Did you know section: "...the typing of the first Unova Gym Leader is depend''a''nt..." ==

Shouldn't that read "depend'''e'''nt"? The spelling that currently appears on the Main Page isn't really accepted in American or British English. [[User:Ultraflame|Ultraflame]] 19:07, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
:Fixed. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:19, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

== A search bar? ==

Has Bulbapedia ever considered having a bar that would be used similar to the Google toolbar? It could have a place to search for an article on Bulbapedia, maybe even have a link to the home page, recent changes, bulbawiki forum, the archives, etc. This would mean easy access to not just the wiki, but so that people with the toolbar could get to a specific pafe faster as well! --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 22:16, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
:You mean a Bulbapedia Toolbar for a browser? That's something to think about, I guess. Maybe a Firefox addon or something. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:19, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
::Yes. That's what I meant. I'm not sure if it is even possible but if it was it would be very useful for viewing and editing Bulbapedia. --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 03:34, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
:::I would recommend bringing this up on the [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/forumdisplay.php?f=195 BulbaWiki forum]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 00:47, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
I thought there already was a search bar on the bulbagarden main page?
::::Yeah there's one on the main page but it's not accurate like google--[[User:Pika3323|Pika3323]] 22:03, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::Try [[Bulbapedia Search Bar Plugin]]. Anyone know how to program? '''chief[[User:Chiefboz|boz]]''' • [[User talk:Chiefboz|talk]] 04:45, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

== Countdown ==

Are we going to have a countdown for the NA release of Black and White? →'''[[User:Axxonn|ΑΧΧΟΝΝ]][[User talk:Axxonn|fi]][[Special:Contributions/Axxonn|re]]''' 01:54, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
:Why not. I think it's traditional to keep the Christmas garb up until January 5th, so we can change the colorscheme then. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:46, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
::Well can we change the color scheme now?--[[User:Lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 11:46, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Yep. We do it all the time. If look in the hidden code of [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Template:Main_Page&action=edit Template:Main Page], you can see all the alternate ones. Try previewing them on a different page (you won't be able to preview them on Template:Main Page because it is protected). So now that it's the sixth, I guess someone needs to change the colorscheme (I think trom wanted to change to the BW one). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:55, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

== Klink swap. ==

How in the world did everyone switch giaru with klink so FAST? If anyone thinks this is a funny comment I am a new user--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 01:46, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
:Many users, and [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Giaru (Pokémon)]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 02:18, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
::A. It was 3 whole days ago. B. Not many names were revealed. C. The names aren't linked in many places, so it is quick to change them. D. There are tons of people who are available 24/7 to change things as soon as possible. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 14:28, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
:::That would mean at LEAST one hundred users in each time zone! Just HOW many people do we have!--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 18:15, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
::::Read last sentence of [[Template:Forums_notice]]. Bulbabot is an <del>annoying</del> <code>awesome</code> bot that is a <del>tyrant</del> <code>friend</code> to everyone in <del>the world</del> <code>Bulbagarden</code>. However, it gets major things done quickly. [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 20:20, 5 February 2011 (UTC) (And Bulbabot, if you even TOUCH this post, I will <del>kill you</del> <code>give you a cookie</code>.)
:::::Except that Bulbabot is not suitable for those kinds of edits. It can't select a portion of a string (i.e. it can't pick a "Giaru" out of the mittle of a template like "{{p|Giaru}}"). It was all done by human editors. And generally there are 50-100 pages that need changing, and with ctrl+F and copypaste a single user can easily do two or three a minute. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 04:01, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
::::::What in the Nine Hells? Bulbabot can't do {{wp|regular expressions}}? Then what ''can'' it do? Is it written in Visual Basic? —[[User:Minimiscience|Minimiscience]] 04:15, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
:::::::TTE said that at one point. I don't remember where, or whether it was just that he didn't know how to set that himself. Bulbabot's programmer is Zhen Lin, who is currently away. As a result, Bulbabot can't currently be given new tasks. It will continue to perform the tasks it has been programmed to do. For the record, it is written in C#. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 04:36, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

== WHAT HAPPENED?!?! ==

WHAT HAPPENED TO BULBAPEDIA?!?!?!--[[User:Lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 04:48, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
:Nevermind. It's all good now.--[[User:Lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 04:49, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
...What did happen? --'''[[User:Flyingtypefan|~~☆Flyingtypefan☆~~]]''' '''''•[[User talk:Flyingtypefan|Talk]]•''''' '''''[[Delibird (Pokemon)|Holiday cheer]]•''''' 01:32, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

== TCG Proposal ==

While looking at some cards from [[Undaunted]], I came across Hariyama. So I clicked it, and the hue was WAY too bright. Could we adopt a darker color for Fighting type pokemon? [[User:TheTheDragon14|TheTheDragon14]] 23:39, 3 January 2011 (UTC)TheTheDragon14
:Specifically [[Hariyama (Undaunted 14)|this card]]? Yes, I agree. It is a bit bright. I suggest you take this to {{bp|Project TCG}}. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 23:57, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

== Log Out ==

I was changing my signature recently and nearly every time I pressed save I got logged out! What's happening? —[[User:Strongriver|強力な]][[User talk:Strongriver|河川]][[Special:Contributions/Strongriver|!]] 08:42, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
:I am being ignored. Someone help me! —[[User:Strongriver|強力な]][[User talk:Strongriver|河川]][[Special:Contributions/Strongriver|!]] 10:29, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
::I believe the server is having some problems at the moment. See [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showthread.php?t=39109&page=18 here] for a little more information. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 10:32, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

== Animated G5 Sprites... ==

Would it be possible to put in the full, animated versions of the sprites from Generation 5? Generation 2 and 3 sprites are animated... I was also wondering if this would just be too much trouble or would overload the server. You can find the sprites [http://www.arkeis.com/animatedsprites.html/ here.] (good website, I think that they're all accurate. Whoever made it did an awesome job). Also, those sprites wouldn't have to be used, it's just the resource that I found. the files are .gif files... Thanks!!! [[User:Bapplesauce|Bapplesauce]] 02:51, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
:Some of the BW sprites are animated PNGs. We don't want to use GIFs for Generation IV and V sprites. You have to have Firefox in order to see the animation because some browsers don't support it. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 02:57, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
::Oh, that's right- I always used to find some other animated images on here that wouldn't animate... Okay. Well, if anyone finds another way... or can get more animated PNGs... thanks. [[User:Bapplesauce|Bapplesauce]] 03:40, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Just so you know, you don't have to have Firefox; Opera works as well. However, I think those are the only major browsers that support APNG (IE and Chrome don't, I don't know about Safari). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:52, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

==Redirect problem==
[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Special:DoubleRedirects&limit=500&offset=0 O_O]. Uh, were these supposed to redirect to SmashWiki? Interwiki table prob? '''''[[User:HavocReaper48|--Havoc]][[User talk:HavocReaper48|48]]''''' 01:14, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
:I saw that too! I was confused. →'''[[User:Axxonn|ΑΧΧΟΝΝ]][[User talk:Axxonn|fi]][[Special:Contributions/Axxonn|re]]''' 01:21, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
::Yes the were. It comes with the NIWA affiliation. Unfortunately I'm not sure if there's a way to "fix" these redirects so that they don't appear on that page. It's not a problem though. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 01:25, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
:::They do work perfectly fine, but they just fill up that special page. It is a problem with the MediaWiki software. And for the record, only some redirect to SmashWiki; Mario goes to Mario Wiki, Kirby goes to WiKirby etc. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 06:44, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

==Countdown==
Don't know if anyone agrees with me but shouldn't the countdown be changed to the date of the European release considering it's the first English release of B+W?

Edit - Sorry forgot to sign --[[User:Daniel1993|Daniel1993]] 21:21, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
:Yes, it should. And since it's been confirmed, it now does. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 21:29, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

I think it should be the north american one.Wasent it that way with platinum?[[User:KylleyFab4Fan|KylleyFab4Fan]] 23:15, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
:The European date is the closest thing we have to the English release, I don't know what's wrong with that. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 23:18, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
::To clarify what Jello said, the date we use for the countdown is the ''first'' official ''English'' release date. For Platinum it was the North American date, as the North American date was before the European date. For Black and White the European date is first, so we are counting down to that date. If, by some chance, the next main series game(s) is/are released in Australia and New Zealand first (I wish), then we will count down to that date instead. There will be no preference for one English-speaking location over another. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 01:48, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Would putting up multiple countdowns overload the server?--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 18:13, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
::::I don't think that's what Werdnae meant. I think he meant just changing the one countdown to reflect the first official English release date. --[[User:Daniel1993|だにえる - 千九百九十三 ]] 20:52, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::Ah, I get it now.--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 02:11, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
::::::Yes, I was actually meaning changing the existing one (even if only once it had expired). However the same applies for multiple countdowns. The bigger issue (bigger than the server load) is that if we are going to have more than one countdown, we must then include a countdown for ''every'' English release, since we aren't being biased towards any one region. So we would probably end up with five or six, rather than two, and that would be too many. Not server-load too many, although it could prove problematic, but too many space-wise on the main page. If you wish to put your own countdown on your userpage, I remember seeing a template for it floating around in someone's userspace.

::::::The reason we are doing the first English release, rather than the American release, it that this is an Engligh-language site, rather than a specifically North American site. Although the servers are in the US, our webmaster, Archaic, lives in Australia. To make a special case for the North American release would appear as a great big insult to all our non-American users, since we've never done anything like that for the European release when it was second. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 02:27, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

:::::::Not to mention the fact that this ''is'' the first time that the European release date is before the North American one.--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 02:02, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

== Pokemon of the Week ==

We most make a Pokemon of the Week column. Almost every site makes one.
I`m sorry i didn`t sign. --Other help is what i can do. 16:56, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
:First of all, I'm not sure that we need one. We already have the Featured Article, or at least SHOULD have (I think the countdown is supressing it). Additionally, [[User:Nazirbashir|Nazirbashir]], make sure that your signature contains a link to your User page, like this: [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 02:25, 22 January 2011 (UTC) (it's part of the [[Bulbapedia:Signature_policy|policy]])
::just because other sites do something doesnt mean we should. i guess you could say our "Origin of Species" is similar to a PotW, only better. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[Special:Contributions/MAGNEDETH|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 05:36, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Where Origin of Species gone anyway? I havent seen one since Septemberish. '''D[[User talk:Dark Lord|ark Lord]]''' 18:17, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
::::The author of the column is currently on hiatus. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 01:19, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

== Save page error ==

I just don't get this. Every once in a while when I try to save an edit, the website says "This page is restricted to the following" even though I am a user--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 02:16, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
:It's probably a session loss error, causing it to behave as if you were logged out. If clicking back and trying again doesn't fix it, then logging out and then back in again should. The tech people are aware of the problem, but haven't yet been able to find what's causing it so they can fix it. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 02:27, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

::It's not a big problem for me. I just wanted to see if anyone else had this issue.--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 02:04, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

==Logging me out?!==
It keeps randomly logging me out! It's really annoying when, say, I've done an edit it won't let me save, but then sometimesI'm logged back in when I click on another page! What's going on? And before you ask, it's not my computer, it does it on the laptop as well. --[[User:Juzey|Juze]][[Shaymin (Pokémon)|y]] ''([[User talk:Juzey|Talk]])'' 11:58, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
:Sounds like a cookie problem to me. Also this isn't related to the Main Page, which is what this talk is for. It asks at the top for you to consider posting items unrelated to the Main Page, [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/forumdisplay.php?f=195 on the forum]. You'd likely get a better response there anyway. [[User:Smashman|Smashman]] 12:06, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
::It's either a cookie problem or a session loss problem. The second is an issue that has been going on for a while, but the tech guys haven't been able to figure out what's causing it in order to fix it. If it happens again, click back and try again. It should go through after a few attempts. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 01:24, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Thanks, it's just really annoying! --[[User:Juzey|Juzey]][[Shaymin (Pokémon)|!!]] ''([[User talk:Juzey|Talk]])'' 13:03, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

==Did You Know Section==

This hasn't been updated in months, it's pretty dead at this point. Does anyone have any good trivial facts for it? [[User:Igglybuff63|Igglybuff63]] 13:36, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
:The trivia up at the moment seems alright to me, but maybe we could add more. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 14:00, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

== Idea for Pronunciations ==

Listen, I have an idea about the pronunciations: You can list ALL of the pronunciations, and say where they're from! Sound good? [[User:Magikarp123193|magikarp123193]] 01:03, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
:Nope, we had this done before. It was shortly removed afterwards as there was many conflicts from various sources on how to pronounce it. --[[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''☆''']][[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''Pikachu!''']] 01:12, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
::Erm... I think magikarp123193 means "list all of the conflicting pronunciations (anime, guides, etc.) for ''each species''," unless you're trying to say that there are just way, way too many different pronunciations for, say, Glalie. —[[User:Minimiscience|Minimiscience]] 01:44, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
:::I think it sounds like a good idea! --[[User:Juzey|Juzey]][[Shaymin (Pokémon)|!!]] ''([[User talk:Juzey|Talk]])'' 13:07, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
::::Oh no, no damn way. I remember the last time that happened. Also, having all pronounciation is just tedious and stupid.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Reshiram (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Zekrom (Pokémon)|ire]] 13:20, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::Why; what happened? [[User:Magikarp123193|magikarp123193]] 23:53, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
:::::EDIT: Oh, and by the way, I don't mean using sound clips; those are O-U-T OUT. [[User:Magikarp123193|magikarp123193]] 23:55, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

==Anonymous users==
I read somewhere about a discussion on whether anonymous users should be allowed to edit (I think), and I have an idea. How about just letting them edit talk pages? They might have something interesting to say. --[[User:Juzey|Juzey]][[Shaymin (Pokémon)|!!]] ''([[User talk:Juzey|Talk]])'' 10:47, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
:I think that if they have something important to say that they need to say desperately then they will make an account. There is too much room for vandalism amongst anonymous, unregulated users. I say it's a bad idea however it is approached.--[[User:Daniel1993|だにえる - 千九百九十三 ]] 20:50, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
::I suppose you do have a point.--[[User:Juzey|Juzey]][[Shaymin (Pokémon)|!!]] ''([[User talk:Juzey|Talk]])'' 11:26, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

== La-dee-FLIPPIN dah... ==
You DO know Nintendo Power posted the rest of the english names, don't you? And that Serebii is using them! Don't believe me? Check it out yourself on Serebii.net. I will expect you guys to use these names from now on! - (User:Oricalu|Ori'''cal'''u) {{unsigned|Oricalu}}

:Unfortunately, what you expect to happen is not something that will happen, as has been stated numerous times on the fifth generation Pokémon talk pages (Janovy rings a bell), it is not known where this list came from, and as a result is not a reliable source of information regardless of the correctness of the current information it contains. If the list did appear in Nintedo Power (which Serebii hasn't stated per your argument) I'd say the editorial board would then make another decision. Until such a time that the names are seen used in official sources (Nintendo themselves for example, which contained the most recent batch of English names) the pages won't be moved. As per what is the editorial boards decision. --[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] 00:29, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
::What issue do you or Serebii have that this list comes from? I have the February issue and it only lists the ones we have moved. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 04:14, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Every name on that list so far has been true. Just sayin! - [User:Oricalu|Ori''cal''u]{{unsigned|Oricalu}}
:Just because they have been right so far doesn't mean they are all right. We will wait for official conformation. Also, next time you post sign your post. --[[User:Daniel1993|だにえる - 千九百九十三 ]] 16:53, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Once again, all the names revealed today were the SAME FLIPPIN NAMES on Serebii! Every last one I knew! New names aren't that fun when you know them, so let's just use the new list! I'm tellin ya, Serebii and the rest of the world are right! - [[User:Oricalu|Ori'''cal'''u]]
:Yeah, I'm with this guy. How many names have to be revealed before you all realize that the list can't possibly be fake? And don't say "all of them", either. I mean, Serebii updated with the names, that should be good enough for anybody. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 13:48, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
::Finally! Someone who agrees with me! - [[User:Oricalu|Ori'''cal'''u]]

At least update Meloetta's Form Names; Voice form is "Aria Form" and Step form is "Pirouette Form" - [[User:Oricalu|Ori'''cal'''u]] [[User:Oricalu|Oricalu]] 14:05, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Even though there is a list of all the names and it's been correct so far (and will probably be right about the other names), the remaining names on the list have not been confirmed officially by Nintendo, which means it's not officially canon yet. Remember, this is a wiki, not a fansite. Even though I don't think Serebii made a bad decision about trusting the list, but Serebii is not "official" and can take the risk of getting a few names wrong. - [[User:Togelover]]
:Just because Serebii says they are real does not mean we will put him. He is not and will not be an "official" source because the names have been confirmed so far. Unless we get some type of non-fan site confirmation, we will post them. Until then you can wait. --[[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''☆''']][[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''Pikachu!''']] 23:59, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

== Another random bit of trivia about B/W ==

I saw the "Did You Know" thing about B/W getting a 40/40 in the magazine, and I also wanted to note that they got a 8.75 in Game Informer, which is the highest I'VE seen a Pokemon game get in that magazine. {{Unsigned|Tailzfoxy96}}
:However the significance of the 40/40 is that Famitsu (the magazine in question) very rarely gives perfect scores whereas this other rating is not a perfect score and no matter how high the score or how low previous scores have been it is still not trivia-worthy. --[[User:Daniel1993|だにえる - 千九百九十三 ]] 17:05, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

== Bots Bots Bots! ==

I know this isn't the place for this, but what is with all of the bots on Bulbapedia lately? Have we ever had it this badly? --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 22:49, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
: They broke through the Capcha, we can't stop them now. [[User:Gliscorguy54|Gliscorguy54]] 22:51, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
::Didn't you ask Jello the same question a few days ago? [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 23:33, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
:::Kinda, I asked how they got through the Captcha. Now, I'm asking why the new bot account rate seems to be increasing and if there is some sort of pattern i.e. everytime new games are released. --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 01:31, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
::::Well, duh. If a game is being released, then there is a great influx of readers. With the good comes the bad. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 16:46, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
:::::Okay, well it appears the spam bots have been creating a TON of ''weight loss'' articles. It's not like the bunches of speculation we've ''also'' been getting. Since the spambots have a common factor in their spam, then it's clear that they are all related somehow. Whether they are being created by a company or business is beyond me, but this is beginning to be a bit too much like a forum discussion, so we should just let the admins handle it and get back to editing the mainspace before getting into a big off-topic discussion. --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 21:53, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Main Page/Archive 11

2011-02-15T23:53:21Z

Magikarp123193: /* Idea for Pronunciations */

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== Previous discussions ==

* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 1|Archive 1]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 2|Archive 2]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 3|Archive 3]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 4|Archive 4]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 5|Archive 5]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 6|Archive 6]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 7|Archive 7]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 8|Archive 8]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 9|Archive 9]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 10|Archive 10]]

== Pokémon cries? ==
Should we add Pokémon cries to the Pokémon articles?--[[User:Starman125|Starman125]] 20:18, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
:It's been tried before, but it caused too many problems. It would still probably cause too much problems now.--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 20:23, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
:::[[Talk:Main Page/Archive 10#Pokémon Cries|This has been discussed to death already.]] —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 20:24, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
::::We're going to try to get them put in as soon as possible. They've been sitting in a directory on the server for... jeez, at least a year. Last time we tried to put them in, the server exploded. Archaic's been wary of doing it since then. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:35, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::Just out of curiosity, what file format was used for the cries? That may have been the problem.--[[User:Starman125|Starman125]] 20:54, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
::::::Over at de:, we have mp3 with the following syntax: <nowiki>{{#mp3:http://www.greenchu.de/nakigoe/025.mp3}}</nowiki>. I cannot figure out where that parser functions comes from, though.--[[User:Afrael|Afrael]] [[User talk:Afrael|talk]] 00:59, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::::I think having the files like [http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/#music Floatzel.net] have their music files could work well. We might even eventually be able to put route/town/cave music on the pages!--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 04:09, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Oh would I ''love'' to do that. Too bad Nintendo would '''destroy''' us for doing so. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:01, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

== Move Trivia ==

Should there be a trivia section for moves? For instance, only one Pokémon can learn [[Steel Wing]] by leveling up.--[[User:Chalkwriter|Chalkwriter]] 16:26, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
:There are for some moves, but not all of them have any notable trivia to add, so there is no sub heading. If you think of '''notable''' trivia, then add the sub-heading and put it in. Thanks, [[User:Samjohn95|Sam]][[User talk:Samjohn95|john]][[Special:contributions/Samjohn95|95]] 21:38, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

== Glitch Pokémon ==

Hi there. I remember when I was around nine, I used to play Pokémon Gold & Crystal, and I remember there was this cloning trick that could clone pokémon and the items that they held. Anyways, I began to notice if I did the right trick at a certain time, (or whatever it was, it has been a while) I managed to get a special type of Pokémon, the trainer. The trainer of course, had no moves and therefore could only struggle, but you could use TMs and everything. I remember having fun with that, but I can't find any info on this.- ''unsigned comment from {{u|Bublador}} ([[User talk:Bublador|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Bublador|contribs]]) ''

Try this page, all of the glitches are on [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Glitches#All_Generations]] and please sign your comment when you use these talk pages. thank you --[[User:Daniel1993|Daniel1993]] 19:55, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

== Pronunciation ==

I'm just thinking if on every Pokémon's page that we have their Pronunciation somewhere? like this:

Say: Sin-da-qwil

What do you think?--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 07:03, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:It's a good idea, but I believe we've had problems with adding pronunciations in the past because of people not agreeing on the "correct" pronunciation (also, sometimes there are conflicting pronunciations from different official sources) --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 07:06, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
::Oh oh then. I just though because some Pokémon I can't pronounce their names--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 07:21, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:::If you have a look at the source of, say, Bulbasaur's page, you'll see this:
<pre>{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Bulbasaur |
pron=<sc>''bul''-buh-sore</sc> <ref>Barbo, Maria. ''The Official Pokémon Handbook''.
Scholastic Publishing, 1999. ISBN 0-439-10397-5</ref> |
jname=フシギダネ |
tmname=Fushigidane |
</pre>

the "pron=" parameter is not coded into the infobox, so it does appear. But it's there on every Pokemon's page. [[User:Takharii|'''たか''']][[User talk:Takharii|'''はり''']][[Special:Contributions/Takharii|'''い''']] 07:39, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
::::Yes, it's coded in but because of the disagreements on pronunciation and no clear official source for many of them, it was decided to hide them all. If Nintendo or anyone ever releases an official pronunciation guide then we'll be able to put them back up. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:43, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::Is whatever the pronunciation is in the English dub of the anime (and similarly the pronunciation in the Japanese dub for those not yet released over here) not enough to justify it? With the exception of the odd time where they've actually changed the pronunciation during it e.g. Regice... '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 13:46, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

== Artwork?! ==

I hate to be the silly one who starts the "What's going on?!!" discussion, but seriously, why have all the pictures of the Generation I Pokémon been changed to the old Red and Green artwork? Is it for an aniversary or something? [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 10:59, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:Yes. Anniversary of RB was yesterday, so Gen I Pokémon got Gen I art. But due to the server cache it took some a while to switch over, and I believe they should all be starting to switch back now, but again, that'll be whenever the server cache gets updated. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 11:24, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
::Actually, maybe it could be put on a switch, like with Gastrodon's forms, so it could switch between old and new artwork periodically. How's that sound? - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 13:49, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:::That's exactly what it did. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:34, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
::::Oh, so it's still in effect? As in, like, permanently? Because that was what I was suggesting. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 22:36, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::Yes, next year and on certain other days the site will have easter egg effects. Yaaaay for surprises. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:32, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
::::::I won't panic when the Gym Leader pictures are replaced by fan art then... [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 11:53, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Is it the same currently with the Generation II Pokémon and their G/S artwork? [[User:Darthrai|Darthrai]] 19:16, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Yes. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 19:30, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

== just a though... ==

i realise this is probably in the wrong place, but, as unlocking the generation IV nationaldex and requesting a trade on the GTS require only seeing a particular species of pokémon, would it make sense to include a section explaining where to see them. (and i am aware that the GTS has only around a week left). I know that people (granted they are few) have had problems viewing unown and riolu in DP for example.--[[User:Mr-connor|Mr-connor]] 13:03, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

:There is a section explaining where to see, and catch, Pokémon. It's right below the Pokédex Entries section.--[[user:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] I lie in wait...... 13:17, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

'''TYPHLOSION LV:50
KINDRA LV:50
ALAKAZAM LV:50
LUGIA LV:45
TYRANITAR LV:55
DRAGONITE LV:57'''

this is my current team for pokemon soulsilver...i think it has room for improvement.
[[User:The a-team|The a-team]] 21:14, 5 September 2010 (UTC)brandon strayhorn[[User:The a-team|The a-team]] 21:14, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
:This isn't the place to put this. Post it on the forums.--[[User:Cold|Cold]] ([[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 21:20, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

== Bulbagarden Archives ==

I have a problem that I keep sending the confirmation e-mail like every week but it doesn't show up. I'm saying it here because I haven't confirmed my e-mail on Archives. Someone please help me!!!!!!--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 10:26, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
:Have you checked it isn't getting caught by the spam filter on your email? Maybe check that the email address is right too? <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 10:42, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
::Thanks Wardnae, I accidentally wrote the wrong email.--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 23:42, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
== Sizes on Pokémon pages.. ==

Something that's been bugging me for a while. I've been manually going around and resizing the main art boxes at the top of each Pokémon page so they all match each other and look uniform. However, many times box sizes will still be off by a few pixels. Would there be anyway to code something that keeps them all the same size? [http://i54.tinypic.com/28rcc53.png] is an example of what Ii'm talking about. Basically, the box that surrounds the art.~★ '''[[User:Cubic Question|''cubic'']][[User talk:Cubic Question|''QUESTION'']]''' 13:48, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
:Even if you make the width a certain size, the length will be different according to the size of the art. To get it uniform, you would have to make every file have some whitespace so it would be the same size. That won't happen though. The boxes don't really need to be uniform in size. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 20:23, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

== Litsen... ==

First of all, I have a idea of a section in the pokemon's main page. Footprint. It'll be good. also, the Pronunciation topic above^^. We can take Right pronunciation from [http://pokemon.wikia.com/ Pokemon Wiki]. I know its cheating, but, Ill help us. --[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 11:41, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:The footprint is already in each Pokémon's infobox. And, we already discussed that the pronunciation caused conflict, and the Pokémon Wiki is far from a reliable source. So we probably won't be adding the pronunciation to each's Pokémon's page. [[User:Takharii|'''たか''']][[User talk:Takharii|'''はり''']][[Special:Contributions/Takharii|'''い''']] 11:08, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
::By the way I think you were trying to say Listen not Litsen?--[[User:lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 11:09, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:::Well, Pronunciation is what admins can do when the wiki lets locked. also, wouldn't they need help adding 150 and more pokemon?--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 11:41, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
::::Pronunciation is conflicting. It isn't just hard work. For example, Bonsly was pronounced with an ē once, then with an ī in another time. One was in the movie, the other in the anime, I've just forgotten which. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 11:58, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::Oh Really? We All Know That Charmander is pronounced ''Chaar-man-der''. Easy Enough?? Just search on google for pokemon pronunciation.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 12:05, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
::::::Yeah, no Google searching, thanks. The official sources (Official Handbooks, Anime, and Video Games) don't always agree on pronunciations of Pokémon names. Now, if the official sources all agree at one point, then we will add them. But until then, they're not going on the species pages. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<sc>Kogoro</sc>''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<sc>Talk to me</sc>''']] - 12:16, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
Okay Then. Moving to the next topic. What About Something at the Top of The Pokemon pics To Change the Picture into other generation art or to a Different form?--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 12:25, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:Most form changing Pokémon have their forms rotated based on the current time (see {{p|Arceus}}, then refresh the page). As for different generations, the infoboxes are set to display it on certain days—for example, on the anniversary of Red and Blue the Pokémon pages displayed their Red and Blue artwork (for those that have it). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:44, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

== Doesn't look like the servers are being nice ==

No, I'm not geting 504s (or, if I am, FireFox is hiding them); I'm getting something even worse: pages not loading at all. A couple of days ago, I was going to come here to get a small amount of information, and it took ages to do so (so long in fact that I just got it O_O). I think the servers are being overstressed - despite the fact that I was getting good ping times off of 10 pings to the site's router (if there is one), I couldn't load any pages - not even robots.txt! That is just a simple text document, and it wouldn't even load! I would start the lockdown soon, as the closer to release we get, the more activity we are likely to get.

I consider myself lucky I could even get on right now. [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 06:37, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

:The fifth generation Pokemon are invading Bulbapedia and interfering with the system! I haven't actually noticed any problems yet though, which is strange. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 20:38, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

== Finally! ==

as i mentioned Form changing above, We can use A method for pokemon with 2 different forms like giratina and shellos

Method: All you guys saw Avatar, Everyone Saw. Now See The [http://james-camerons-avatar.wikia.com Avatar Wiki]'s Jake Sully Article. There is a button below the pic to change the Picture into Human/Avatar. We can use that Method.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 16:48, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

:That's a really good idea actually, I think it would be better than the Pokemon's form just changing periodically. Perhaps now Bulbapedia is being upgraded for the fifth generation, it would be a convenient time for recoding the articles. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 20:36, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
::I dunno. Shaymin is also two formes, and changes with time. Shellos and Giratina, by the way, are not random. It's based on the hours. And unfortunately, that just changes the infobox picture; there are '''''several''''' things that change for forme changers. Unless your Ground-type moves miss against Altered Forme Giratina. What's that? They don't? But you can only use Earthquake five times? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:11, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:::Wikimon has a more extensive one that allows you to toggle the whole box, for example in the [http://wikimon.net/Agumon Agumon article], click the tabs. It even integrates the table of contents into it. Pretty clever. - [[User:DanPMK|MK]] ([[User Talk:DanPMK|t]]/[[Special:contributions/DanPMK|c]]) 04:57, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
::::see, only arceus has several things that needed to be changed. what about others?--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 07:52, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::What about Mebukijika and Genesect (yes, Genesect has other formes (I think five or six?)) [[User:Zekasaur|Zekasaur]] 10:53, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

:I also support the toggle idea. By the way, it has been mentioned in Arbok's Pokédex entries that it has at least six different patterns, of which two have appeared in official game art. Maybe it would be worthwhile to also toggle these two the same way? --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 09:05, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
::I say we just stick with actual forme changes, and not include design differences between canons. [[User:PDL|PDL]] 14:24, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

== Metric tags in Pokédex entries ==
All pokedex entries use the imperial units of measurement from the US translation. I suggest adding tags with the metric counterparts for two reasons:

1 - the original Japanese entries use metric units, so it could be seen as "more canon".

2 - there are international users of Bulbapedia (me included) that are not used to imperial units.

For example, the final sentence in Magneton's entry in Yellow could be: ''It raises the temperature by {{tt|3.6F degrees|2°C}} within {{tt|3,300 feet|1 km}}.''

If the staff agrees, I'm willing to go through all Pokedex entries and add the metric values. I know enough Japanese to easily get the official values from the pokedex entries listed on the Japanese wiki, assuming those are correct.

--[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 09:05, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

:Metric system seems like a pretty simple and straightforward thing to include, it's merely a big job to go through ''everything'' and add the metric equivalent. Perhaps starting small, with say the Pokémon infobox only for now, and work our way up (every infobox should list the Pokémon's height and weight, so it's the most prominent use of the imperial system). Pokédex entries are also pretty simple, but I'd also say they're the less important area to work on (no complaints if you want to fix them all yourself, however). --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 11:28, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

::Each Pokemon already have both their imperial and metric height and weight listed in their infobox, except for Generation 5, because their imperial values are not yet officially known. So pokedex entries are the most important area left to work on, as far as I can see. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 13:37, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

:::Unless someone else has a big complaint about it, I don't see why you can't go ahead and update those, in that case. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 14:47, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

::::I have done 101 out of 493 for now. I may have missed a few in scanning all those entries. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 23:59, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

== Question? ==

The option to write in the discussion for the Pokemon Black and White Versions isn't there. Are we not aloud to write there? --[[User:Mew is the Original One|Mew is the Original One]] 21:16, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:Yeah, but only if you're autoconfirmed, meaning you've been registered for a certain amount of time and have made a certain number of edits.--[[User:Cold|Cold]] ([[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 21:22, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
::OK thanks --[[User:Mew is the Original One|Mew is the Original One]] 22:09, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:::What is the amount of time and important edits? [[User:Zekasaur|Zekasaur]] 10:49, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

== 3D Artwork ==

This is something that's been on my mind for a while now, but I couldn't bring it up due to the lockdown. Does anyone else think it would be a good idea to possibly include 3D images of Pokémon and Pokémon moves, like what's done for anime? It could be done in a seperate section or sub-section of the articles. Oh, and I don't mean updating every time a new 3D game comes out; I mean adding images for each time a move or Pokémon has appeared in a 3D game, like images of Pidgeot from its appearances in Pokémon Stadium through Pokémon Battle Revolution. I don't know if this has been brought up before, but is this notion a good idea?--[[User:Black Yin Zekrom|Black Yin Zekrom]] 00:06, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
:Although i don't know much, but taking 3D Pics will be hard and i don't think its a very good idea.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 11:07, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Well, I don't quite know how it's done, but you don't take 3D pics by using a camera or something. The quality of the 3D images here prove that.--[[User:Black Yin Zekrom|Black Yin Zekrom]] 15:25, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

== Lylat Wiki ==

[http://starfoxwiki.org/Lylat_Wiki Lylat Wiki] is now a part of NIWA, Oct 8th and 15th two others will be added, so might wanna add that to your NIWA bar ;] [[User:Malake256|Malake256]] 17:03, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

== Main page design ==

Does no one else think Tsutarja is missing?
We have Bulbasaur, Treecko, Chikorita and Turtwig pics on the main page, but no Tsutarja (or victini if you want the first pokémon in the dex) I can feel it's absence when I look at the page. [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 19:55, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
:main page uses animated minisprites. we dont have Gen V animated minisprites. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[Special:Contributions/MAGNEDETH|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 19:56, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
::Yet. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:09, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
:::I can ''Make'' Them Animate. but it wont we official, and Archives are currently blocked.--[[User:Ash's Infernape|Ash's]] [[User_talk:Ash's Infernape|Infernape]] 20:33, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
:::I see. That's a little worrying because they're not animated on my screen. [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 17:10, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
::::What browser are you running? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 07:26, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::on chrome and IE they don't work, only firefox. [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 12:44, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::I've heard that they also work on Opera. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 06:04, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Actually,there is a Tsutarja animated sprite Bulbagarden Archives, but there's no space for it. However, a Victini sprite has also been uploaded. [[User:Jlin8002|Jlin8002]] 00:00, 9 October 2010 (UTC)Jlin8002

== Shiny Gen V Sprites ==

I would like to know where we are going to put the shiny sprites for the fifth generation Pokémon. I have the sprites (official). [[User:Zekasaur|Zekasaur]] 10:47, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
:We have them, however we have yet to upload them. I guess I could do them today. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 11:28, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

== Translations ==

This is a big job, and would probably be a bad idea, but could we translate Bulbapedia into other languages? I know that we already have basic translations of Pokémon and Moves, but what about the rest of it?----[[User:Chalkwriter|Chalk]][[User talk:Chalkwriter|writer]] 18:08, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
:May I direct your attention [[Encyclopædiæ Pokémonis|here]] ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 18:09, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

== Clearer distinction between "natural" and Dream World abilities. ==

I think the distinction between pokémon that only have certain abilities through the Pokémon Dream World and those that don't can be made clearer. For example, on pages of separate abilities there is just one table with normal and PDW pokémon all mixed up, while it would be easier to make separate tables for both. I think this would help both users that own Pokémon Black or White and those that don't. Besides that we could also make a category for "Abilities exclusive to Pokémon Dream World", like {{a|Harvest}}. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 00:22, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
:On the separate pages, they are specfically listed in a separate column that says "Dream World ability". That seems separate enough. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 00:24, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
::Yes, but I think it would be easier if for example you are looking for a pokémon that has a certain ability, that you don't have to go through a list of which half of the pokémon are Dream World pokémon. Even for Dream World users like me pokémon in wild and in Dream World are two completely separate things. But yeah, it's not that necessary. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 09:32, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

== Grammar error ==

Being the Grammar Nazi I am, I have spotted an error I can't fix. I accidentally got logged out while editing a userpage, and I noticed there is a lack of space between sentences on the message that explains that new users cannot edit userpages. This is really bothering me, so could anyone with the power to edit the MediaWiki namespace fix it? [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 02:13, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
:Done, I think. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:20, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

== Update on Message to the Editor ==

[[Template:Main Page/Message from the Editor|'''This''']] should be updated, no? I think people would like to know it's been unlocked [[User:Malake256|Malake256]] 02:51, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
: Very true, its more that a month old [[User:Ruberduck0123|'''Ruber''']][[User talk:Ruberduck0123|'''duck''']][[Special:Contributions/Ruberduck0123|'''0123''']] 07:00, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
::It doesn't matter if it's five months old, he edits it when they have an announcement to make, he doesn't have to update it once a month people!! --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 13:46, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

== Bulbanews ==

I have a question : Can only staff members report news to bulbanews or can normal users also report --[[User:Vlade|Vlade]] 15:45, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Bulbanews is a different wiki altogether. Though they're both part of Bulbagarden, both Bulbapedia and Bulbanews have their own front pages. The information you're looking for is on Bulbanews's front page and if you have any other questions about it, it'd make sense to ask on that talk page rather than this one. [[n:Front page|here's a link, for convenience]] [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 20:26, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
:What Kanjo said is correct, but to answer your question, anyone is allowed to report news to Bulbanews. After submission, an admin or columnist needs to move it out of the draft namespace and into the mainspace. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 00:01, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

== Zoroark's Name ==

I think the Ark in its name could be cause it can transform into lots of pokemon like an ark of pokemon and the reason i posted it here cause i cant post it on Zoroark's article . --[[User:Vlade|Vlade]] 16:12, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
:First of all, if you can't post in an article, inquire in the article's talk page (i.e. [[Talk:Zoroark (Pokémon)]]), not Talk: Main Page. Secondly, that's a real stretch: that's not an actual definition of the word ark, it's just a vague metaphor. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 21:07, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

== Before you ask ==

Read the news. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:33, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

:Is it for the Japanese anime writer? If so, I suppose Chimecho is more appropriate than Lugia, considering how the little windchime links to places like Mt. Pyre and Sendoff Spring. It can be in greyscale if desired. Besides, what is more favourable aesthetically is that one may include Chingling too, instead of Lugia all over the place. [[User:Rxhar|Rxhar]] 09:46, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

::It's Lugia because the man is credited with helping to create it. It was on the news post. [[User:Tamah|Tamah]] 23:41, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

:::Well, it was more than a week by now, someone could remember me who edits the main page? --[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 16:14, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

== What'd I do wrong here? ==

[[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:Starck]]

... What happened? [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK]] [[Mudkip (Pokémon)|Leiks]] [[Lucario (Pokémon)|Lucario]] [[User talk:SpecialK|and the]] [[User:Missingno. Master/Celebi Glitch|Celebi Glitch]] 12:46, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
:Just create a page with <nowiki>{{subst:welcome}}</nowiki>.----'''''無限の知性''''' ◎ [[User:Dennou Zenshi|ＤＥＮＮＯＵ]]'''[[Special:Random|◆]]'''[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|ＺＥＮＳＨＩ]] 13:08, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

==EV Listings==

I was just thinking of a very useful idea. On the pages for each route, cave, etc, where the wild Pokémon are listen, I was thinking we should add another column after each Pokémon and say "1 Speed," or "2 Attack," or something. That, paired with encounter and level rates would help a great deal in EV training for all different levels. {{unsigned|Igglybuff63}}
:Well, I admit, this would be useful to some people, but this is an encyclopedia, not a walkthrough. Honestly, I don't see why you can't go to the Pokémon's page and check. I'm not for it, but I'm not exactly saying NO. --[[User:Si6x12|'''Si6''']][[User Talk:Si6x12|'''x12''']] 03:01, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
::I agree completely, however, it would be a nice little touch on the page for convenience. I'm not one of them, but I know some people have incredibly slow computers, and I can easily imagine the frustration of those who have slow connections along with a desire to EV train. [[User:Igglybuff63|Igglybuff63]] 14:00, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
:::I'm thinking no, but I do see a use in it. Perhaps {{bp|Project Walkthroughs}} would be a good place to ask. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 14:07, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
::::Putting every possible bit of information is dumb. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:04, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
:::::But that's not what we'd be doing now, is it? We wouldn't be putting their number, or Dex color, or Egg group, or anything like that, just the EV(s) they give. {{unsigned|Igglybuff63}}
::::::The number should already be there. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:50, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
:::::::No, I'm talking about on the route pages. {{unsigned|Igglybuff63}}
::::::::Don't make me go on a rant about users and clicking links. If you plan to EV train, then just look up the Pokémon that give EVs in whatever. We're an encyclopedia, not an EV training guide. Do some of your own research, dude. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:15, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::This isn't at all a matter of laziness. Heck, I'd be willing to go around and do a ton of the work, assuming I could figure out how to code it (which I can't) It's just a nice touch of convenience for users, you know? I mean, I'm fine if we don't do it, it's just a suggestion, after all. [[User:Igglybuff63|Igglybuff63]] 04:39, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

== Redirection Pages ==

Do we really need those redirection pages with one Pokémon used by a character, the TCG link, and the Pokémon link? We already have the Pokémon used by a character and it's TCG links on the page. I understand the ones for like Pikachu, but ones like Mr. Mime and Gengar don't need to be there, do they? [[User:DarthMartian7|DarthMartian7]] 03:09, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
:This is already being discussed on the forums, so please be patient. '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 03:13, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
::And how soon do we delete {{template|p}}, which I'm sure you all want. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:05, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

== What to do with Dream World artwork. ==

Currently we use some to replace the Sugimori artwork, but what to do when said artwork is avaiable?. Sincerely i thing it would be a waste to just leave the DW artwork floating alone. Do you agree? We should do something with it.
--[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 18:06, 15 November 2010 (UTC) Sorry, forgot signature
:It would be a waste. Also, how come we don't put up the old artwork on the Pokémon's page? It seems a waste not to include it on the page (especially when some trivia refers to it). [[User:Tesh|Teshigigas]] [[User_talk:Tesh|[Talk]]] 18:29, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
::Old artwork '''''is''''' on the pages, they just change from time to time [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 18:36, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
:::not really, Ataro. we are going to find a use for the images, but as of late weve had other things to focus on. rest assured, it will be showcased somewhere and in some way. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[Special:Contributions/MAGNEDETH|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 23:01, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
::::/me keeps reading the "In the Games" sections of pages (hint). [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 00:47, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
:::::Over at [http://www.zeldawiki.org/Main_Page Zelda wiki]they use a code of sorts that makes a picture change every time you refresh the page. It seemed to use a template called <nowiki>{{RandomLinkImage}}</nowiki> for [http://www.zeldawiki.org/Link this page]. I think I've seen simeler on userpages. It varied page to page. --[[User:Pika3323|Pika3323]] 20:34, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
:Maybe each Pokemon's page can feature a gallery of their art from all games. Just a random thought. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 21:17, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
::Eventually. There's always an issue with doing that though. And that is how many damned exceptions there are. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:13, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
:::Um, doesn't each Pokémon page link to a gallery anyway? --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 21:00, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
::::Em, we could show the artwork in the pages for "special" cases, like ivysaur. Ivysaur has purple colored eyes in the anime and Dream World--[[User:EzekielMaple|EzekielMaple]] 22:44, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

== Trading pre-Unova ==

Some pokemon such as [[Bulbasaur]] say that you have to "trade" to get the Pokémon when you actually have to get it through Pokéshift, Dream World, or both? When are we going to change this? —[[User:Zekasaur|♫Ze]][[User talk:Zekasaur|kas]][[Special:Contributions/Zekasaur|aur♫]] 03:04, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
:It will likely be changed as soon as someone enters that specific information into the tables. If I recall correctly, the template defaults to saying "trade" if no data is entered. [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 04:58, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

== Preview ==
You know how it seems that everyone forgets to use the preview when they first come on? Well on NWiki, they have something that makes you show preview, and I was wondering if we could use that here. [[User:Gliscorguy54|Gliscorguy54]] 01:30, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
:I actually find that incredibly annoying on NWiki. If you are going around making minor edits, such as relinking, it just gets in the way. I'm pretty sure there is an option here to turn it on in preferences if you like it. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 02:10, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

== File:Ani586WMS.png not displaying ==

Could someone work on this? The file [[a:File:Ani586WMS.png]] isn't showing up on the main page. I checked the Archives and found that the filename is correct, but somehow or another it isn't working. Thanks. '''chief[[User:Chiefboz|boz]]''' ''(my [[User talk:Chiefboz|talk]] and [[Special:Contributions/Chiefboz|contributions]])'' 15:44, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
:There is nothing that can be done about this. It is just the archives not synchronizing with Bulbapedia. All we can do is wait for it to fix itself. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 03:28, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
::Hopefully before Christmas...[[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 03:33, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
:::It was actually displaying when MAGNEDETH added it. It fitted in nicely too... --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 04:29, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
::::It seems to be working now. '''chief[[User:Chiefboz|boz]]''' • [[User talk:Chiefboz|talk]] 17:25, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

== Pokémon SIENNA??? Why do we have NOTHING on this? See video ==

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQqH2HV7p10&feature=watch_response

I had no idea there was such a thing as a Sienna version of this!! Please, add the article: {{red link|Pokemon Sienna}}. Thanks! --[[User:Tanaka Shimoya|Tanaka Shimoya]] 13:27, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
:Maybe on [[hack games]]. But it probably isn't notable enough. Take it up on the talk page there. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:36, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
:You couls add it to {{red link|rom hacks}}{{unsigned|Ent3r}}
::No. That page does not and will not exist. The correct page is [[hack games]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 04:57, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
:::On the record, we only add really famous hack games to the [[hack games]] article. I've never heard of this one personally, so it probably doesn't need to be mentioned. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 06:06, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

== "Pokemon Apokelypse" ==

Anyone seen this?:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDX1m0Y2Vkg&feature=watch_response_rev

Looks like we don't have an article on it either. Why doesn't anyone create something about this? --[[User:Tanaka Shimoya|Tanaka Shimoya]] 13:29, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
:[[User:ShinyPikachu/Pokémon Apokélypse]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:36, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

There shouldn't be a page because its fan made. If it were a real Pokémon movie, then there should be a page. Although, I have to admit, it is pretty awesome and would make a cool movie for older Pokémon fans. [[User:Gryffindor1991|Gryffindor1991]] 23:33, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
:[[Bulbapedia:Project Fandom]] --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 14:00, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
:: Just to point out, a heck of a lot of wikis hold pages on notable fan projects. I don't mean projects like "my mate Billy made a hack", but rather projects that caused controversy, were published or otherwise became noteworthy. I think Apokelypse caused enough of a stir, a long with a heck of a lot of controversy about Pokémon canon. One has to commend the whole publicity hoax where the creators staged a theatre viewing of it, too. But on the flip side, seeing as this wiki doesn't even have a page on James Turner, it'd be silly to add a page on something less notable. Meh. Candy for all. [[User:Me, Hurray!|Me, Hurray!]] 20:00, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

== Did you know section: "...the typing of the first Unova Gym Leader is depend''a''nt..." ==

Shouldn't that read "depend'''e'''nt"? The spelling that currently appears on the Main Page isn't really accepted in American or British English. [[User:Ultraflame|Ultraflame]] 19:07, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
:Fixed. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:19, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

== A search bar? ==

Has Bulbapedia ever considered having a bar that would be used similar to the Google toolbar? It could have a place to search for an article on Bulbapedia, maybe even have a link to the home page, recent changes, bulbawiki forum, the archives, etc. This would mean easy access to not just the wiki, but so that people with the toolbar could get to a specific pafe faster as well! --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 22:16, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
:You mean a Bulbapedia Toolbar for a browser? That's something to think about, I guess. Maybe a Firefox addon or something. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:19, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
::Yes. That's what I meant. I'm not sure if it is even possible but if it was it would be very useful for viewing and editing Bulbapedia. --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 03:34, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
:::I would recommend bringing this up on the [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/forumdisplay.php?f=195 BulbaWiki forum]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 00:47, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
I thought there already was a search bar on the bulbagarden main page?
::::Yeah there's one on the main page but it's not accurate like google--[[User:Pika3323|Pika3323]] 22:03, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::Try [[Bulbapedia Search Bar Plugin]]. Anyone know how to program? '''chief[[User:Chiefboz|boz]]''' • [[User talk:Chiefboz|talk]] 04:45, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

== Countdown ==

Are we going to have a countdown for the NA release of Black and White? →'''[[User:Axxonn|ΑΧΧΟΝΝ]][[User talk:Axxonn|fi]][[Special:Contributions/Axxonn|re]]''' 01:54, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
:Why not. I think it's traditional to keep the Christmas garb up until January 5th, so we can change the colorscheme then. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:46, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
::Well can we change the color scheme now?--[[User:Lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 11:46, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Yep. We do it all the time. If look in the hidden code of [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Template:Main_Page&action=edit Template:Main Page], you can see all the alternate ones. Try previewing them on a different page (you won't be able to preview them on Template:Main Page because it is protected). So now that it's the sixth, I guess someone needs to change the colorscheme (I think trom wanted to change to the BW one). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:55, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

== Klink swap. ==

How in the world did everyone switch giaru with klink so FAST? If anyone thinks this is a funny comment I am a new user--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 01:46, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
:Many users, and [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Giaru (Pokémon)]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 02:18, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
::A. It was 3 whole days ago. B. Not many names were revealed. C. The names aren't linked in many places, so it is quick to change them. D. There are tons of people who are available 24/7 to change things as soon as possible. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 14:28, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
:::That would mean at LEAST one hundred users in each time zone! Just HOW many people do we have!--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 18:15, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
::::Read last sentence of [[Template:Forums_notice]]. Bulbabot is an <del>annoying</del> <code>awesome</code> bot that is a <del>tyrant</del> <code>friend</code> to everyone in <del>the world</del> <code>Bulbagarden</code>. However, it gets major things done quickly. [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 20:20, 5 February 2011 (UTC) (And Bulbabot, if you even TOUCH this post, I will <del>kill you</del> <code>give you a cookie</code>.)
:::::Except that Bulbabot is not suitable for those kinds of edits. It can't select a portion of a string (i.e. it can't pick a "Giaru" out of the mittle of a template like "{{p|Giaru}}"). It was all done by human editors. And generally there are 50-100 pages that need changing, and with ctrl+F and copypaste a single user can easily do two or three a minute. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 04:01, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
::::::What in the Nine Hells? Bulbabot can't do {{wp|regular expressions}}? Then what ''can'' it do? Is it written in Visual Basic? —[[User:Minimiscience|Minimiscience]] 04:15, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
:::::::TTE said that at one point. I don't remember where, or whether it was just that he didn't know how to set that himself. Bulbabot's programmer is Zhen Lin, who is currently away. As a result, Bulbabot can't currently be given new tasks. It will continue to perform the tasks it has been programmed to do. For the record, it is written in C#. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 04:36, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

== WHAT HAPPENED?!?! ==

WHAT HAPPENED TO BULBAPEDIA?!?!?!--[[User:Lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 04:48, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
:Nevermind. It's all good now.--[[User:Lilkaykaygal|KayKay]]|[[User talk:Lilkaykaygal|Chat to me!]] 04:49, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
...What did happen? --'''[[User:Flyingtypefan|~~☆Flyingtypefan☆~~]]''' '''''•[[User talk:Flyingtypefan|Talk]]•''''' '''''[[Delibird (Pokemon)|Holiday cheer]]•''''' 01:32, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

== TCG Proposal ==

While looking at some cards from [[Undaunted]], I came across Hariyama. So I clicked it, and the hue was WAY too bright. Could we adopt a darker color for Fighting type pokemon? [[User:TheTheDragon14|TheTheDragon14]] 23:39, 3 January 2011 (UTC)TheTheDragon14
:Specifically [[Hariyama (Undaunted 14)|this card]]? Yes, I agree. It is a bit bright. I suggest you take this to {{bp|Project TCG}}. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 23:57, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

== Log Out ==

I was changing my signature recently and nearly every time I pressed save I got logged out! What's happening? —[[User:Strongriver|強力な]][[User talk:Strongriver|河川]][[Special:Contributions/Strongriver|!]] 08:42, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
:I am being ignored. Someone help me! —[[User:Strongriver|強力な]][[User talk:Strongriver|河川]][[Special:Contributions/Strongriver|!]] 10:29, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
::I believe the server is having some problems at the moment. See [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showthread.php?t=39109&page=18 here] for a little more information. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 10:32, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

== Animated G5 Sprites... ==

Would it be possible to put in the full, animated versions of the sprites from Generation 5? Generation 2 and 3 sprites are animated... I was also wondering if this would just be too much trouble or would overload the server. You can find the sprites [http://www.arkeis.com/animatedsprites.html/ here.] (good website, I think that they're all accurate. Whoever made it did an awesome job). Also, those sprites wouldn't have to be used, it's just the resource that I found. the files are .gif files... Thanks!!! [[User:Bapplesauce|Bapplesauce]] 02:51, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
:Some of the BW sprites are animated PNGs. We don't want to use GIFs for Generation IV and V sprites. You have to have Firefox in order to see the animation because some browsers don't support it. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 02:57, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
::Oh, that's right- I always used to find some other animated images on here that wouldn't animate... Okay. Well, if anyone finds another way... or can get more animated PNGs... thanks. [[User:Bapplesauce|Bapplesauce]] 03:40, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Just so you know, you don't have to have Firefox; Opera works as well. However, I think those are the only major browsers that support APNG (IE and Chrome don't, I don't know about Safari). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:52, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

==Redirect problem==
[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Special:DoubleRedirects&limit=500&offset=0 O_O]. Uh, were these supposed to redirect to SmashWiki? Interwiki table prob? '''''[[User:HavocReaper48|--Havoc]][[User talk:HavocReaper48|48]]''''' 01:14, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
:I saw that too! I was confused. →'''[[User:Axxonn|ΑΧΧΟΝΝ]][[User talk:Axxonn|fi]][[Special:Contributions/Axxonn|re]]''' 01:21, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
::Yes the were. It comes with the NIWA affiliation. Unfortunately I'm not sure if there's a way to "fix" these redirects so that they don't appear on that page. It's not a problem though. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 01:25, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
:::They do work perfectly fine, but they just fill up that special page. It is a problem with the MediaWiki software. And for the record, only some redirect to SmashWiki; Mario goes to Mario Wiki, Kirby goes to WiKirby etc. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 06:44, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

==Countdown==
Don't know if anyone agrees with me but shouldn't the countdown be changed to the date of the European release considering it's the first English release of B+W?

Edit - Sorry forgot to sign --[[User:Daniel1993|Daniel1993]] 21:21, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
:Yes, it should. And since it's been confirmed, it now does. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 21:29, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

I think it should be the north american one.Wasent it that way with platinum?[[User:KylleyFab4Fan|KylleyFab4Fan]] 23:15, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
:The European date is the closest thing we have to the English release, I don't know what's wrong with that. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 23:18, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
::To clarify what Jello said, the date we use for the countdown is the ''first'' official ''English'' release date. For Platinum it was the North American date, as the North American date was before the European date. For Black and White the European date is first, so we are counting down to that date. If, by some chance, the next main series game(s) is/are released in Australia and New Zealand first (I wish), then we will count down to that date instead. There will be no preference for one English-speaking location over another. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 01:48, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Would putting up multiple countdowns overload the server?--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 18:13, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
::::I don't think that's what Werdnae meant. I think he meant just changing the one countdown to reflect the first official English release date. --[[User:Daniel1993|だにえる - 千九百九十三 ]] 20:52, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::Ah, I get it now.--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 02:11, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
::::::Yes, I was actually meaning changing the existing one (even if only once it had expired). However the same applies for multiple countdowns. The bigger issue (bigger than the server load) is that if we are going to have more than one countdown, we must then include a countdown for ''every'' English release, since we aren't being biased towards any one region. So we would probably end up with five or six, rather than two, and that would be too many. Not server-load too many, although it could prove problematic, but too many space-wise on the main page. If you wish to put your own countdown on your userpage, I remember seeing a template for it floating around in someone's userspace.

::::::The reason we are doing the first English release, rather than the American release, it that this is an Engligh-language site, rather than a specifically North American site. Although the servers are in the US, our webmaster, Archaic, lives in Australia. To make a special case for the North American release would appear as a great big insult to all our non-American users, since we've never done anything like that for the European release when it was second. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 02:27, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

:::::::Not to mention the fact that this ''is'' the first time that the European release date is before the North American one.--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 02:02, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

== Pokemon of the Week ==

We most make a Pokemon of the Week column. Almost every site makes one.
I`m sorry i didn`t sign. --Other help is what i can do. 16:56, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
:First of all, I'm not sure that we need one. We already have the Featured Article, or at least SHOULD have (I think the countdown is supressing it). Additionally, [[User:Nazirbashir|Nazirbashir]], make sure that your signature contains a link to your User page, like this: [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 02:25, 22 January 2011 (UTC) (it's part of the [[Bulbapedia:Signature_policy|policy]])
::just because other sites do something doesnt mean we should. i guess you could say our "Origin of Species" is similar to a PotW, only better. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[Special:Contributions/MAGNEDETH|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 05:36, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Where Origin of Species gone anyway? I havent seen one since Septemberish. '''D[[User talk:Dark Lord|ark Lord]]''' 18:17, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
::::The author of the column is currently on hiatus. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 01:19, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

== Save page error ==

I just don't get this. Every once in a while when I try to save an edit, the website says "This page is restricted to the following" even though I am a user--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 02:16, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
:It's probably a session loss error, causing it to behave as if you were logged out. If clicking back and trying again doesn't fix it, then logging out and then back in again should. The tech people are aware of the problem, but haven't yet been able to find what's causing it so they can fix it. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 02:27, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

::It's not a big problem for me. I just wanted to see if anyone else had this issue.--[[User:Celibi25|Celibi25]] 02:04, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

==Logging me out?!==
It keeps randomly logging me out! It's really annoying when, say, I've done an edit it won't let me save, but then sometimesI'm logged back in when I click on another page! What's going on? And before you ask, it's not my computer, it does it on the laptop as well. --[[User:Juzey|Juze]][[Shaymin (Pokémon)|y]] ''([[User talk:Juzey|Talk]])'' 11:58, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
:Sounds like a cookie problem to me. Also this isn't related to the Main Page, which is what this talk is for. It asks at the top for you to consider posting items unrelated to the Main Page, [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/forumdisplay.php?f=195 on the forum]. You'd likely get a better response there anyway. [[User:Smashman|Smashman]] 12:06, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
::It's either a cookie problem or a session loss problem. The second is an issue that has been going on for a while, but the tech guys haven't been able to figure out what's causing it in order to fix it. If it happens again, click back and try again. It should go through after a few attempts. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 01:24, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
:::Thanks, it's just really annoying! --[[User:Juzey|Juzey]][[Shaymin (Pokémon)|!!]] ''([[User talk:Juzey|Talk]])'' 13:03, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

==Did You Know Section==

This hasn't been updated in months, it's pretty dead at this point. Does anyone have any good trivial facts for it? [[User:Igglybuff63|Igglybuff63]] 13:36, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
:The trivia up at the moment seems alright to me, but maybe we could add more. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 14:00, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

== Idea for Pronunciations ==

Listen, I have an idea about the pronunciations: You can list ALL of the pronunciations, and say where they're from! Sound good? [[User:Magikarp123193|magikarp123193]] 01:03, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
:Nope, we had this done before. It was shortly removed afterwards as there was many conflicts from various sources on how to pronounce it. --[[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''☆''']][[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''Pikachu!''']] 01:12, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
::Erm... I think magikarp123193 means "list all of the conflicting pronunciations (anime, guides, etc.) for ''each species''," unless you're trying to say that there are just way, way too many different pronunciations for, say, Glalie. —[[User:Minimiscience|Minimiscience]] 01:44, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
:::I think it sounds like a good idea! --[[User:Juzey|Juzey]][[Shaymin (Pokémon)|!!]] ''([[User talk:Juzey|Talk]])'' 13:07, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
::::Oh no, no damn way. I remember the last time that happened. Also, having all pronounciation is just tedious and stupid.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Reshiram (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Zekrom (Pokémon)|ire]] 13:20, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::Why; what happened? [[User:Magikarp123193|magikarp123193]] 23:53, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

==Anonymous users==
I read somewhere about a discussion on whether anonymous users should be allowed to edit (I think), and I have an idea. How about just letting them edit talk pages? They might have something interesting to say. --[[User:Juzey|Juzey]][[Shaymin (Pokémon)|!!]] ''([[User talk:Juzey|Talk]])'' 10:47, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
:I think that if they have something important to say that they need to say desperately then they will make an account. There is too much room for vandalism amongst anonymous, unregulated users. I say it's a bad idea however it is approached.--[[User:Daniel1993|だにえる - 千九百九十三 ]] 20:50, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
::I suppose you do have a point.--[[User:Juzey|Juzey]][[Shaymin (Pokémon)|!!]] ''([[User talk:Juzey|Talk]])'' 11:26, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

== La-dee-FLIPPIN dah... ==
You DO know Nintendo Power posted the rest of the english names, don't you? And that Serebii is using them! Don't believe me? Check it out yourself on Serebii.net. I will expect you guys to use these names from now on! - (User:Oricalu|Ori'''cal'''u) {{unsigned|Oricalu}}

:Unfortunately, what you expect to happen is not something that will happen, as has been stated numerous times on the fifth generation Pokémon talk pages (Janovy rings a bell), it is not known where this list came from, and as a result is not a reliable source of information regardless of the correctness of the current information it contains. If the list did appear in Nintedo Power (which Serebii hasn't stated per your argument) I'd say the editorial board would then make another decision. Until such a time that the names are seen used in official sources (Nintendo themselves for example, which contained the most recent batch of English names) the pages won't be moved. As per what is the editorial boards decision. --[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] 00:29, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
::What issue do you or Serebii have that this list comes from? I have the February issue and it only lists the ones we have moved. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''P S Y''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 04:14, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Every name on that list so far has been true. Just sayin! - [User:Oricalu|Ori''cal''u]{{unsigned|Oricalu}}
:Just because they have been right so far doesn't mean they are all right. We will wait for official conformation. Also, next time you post sign your post. --[[User:Daniel1993|だにえる - 千九百九十三 ]] 16:53, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Once again, all the names revealed today were the SAME FLIPPIN NAMES on Serebii! Every last one I knew! New names aren't that fun when you know them, so let's just use the new list! I'm tellin ya, Serebii and the rest of the world are right! - [[User:Oricalu|Ori'''cal'''u]]
:Yeah, I'm with this guy. How many names have to be revealed before you all realize that the list can't possibly be fake? And don't say "all of them", either. I mean, Serebii updated with the names, that should be good enough for anybody. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 13:48, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
::Finally! Someone who agrees with me! - [[User:Oricalu|Ori'''cal'''u]]

At least update Meloetta's Form Names; Voice form is "Aria Form" and Step form is "Pirouette Form" - [[User:Oricalu|Ori'''cal'''u]] [[User:Oricalu|Oricalu]] 14:05, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Even though there is a list of all the names and it's been correct so far (and will probably be right about the other names), the remaining names on the list have not been confirmed officially by Nintendo, which means it's not officially canon yet. Remember, this is a wiki, not a fansite. Even though I don't think Serebii made a bad decision about trusting the list, but Serebii is not "official" and can take the risk of getting a few names wrong. - [[User:Togelover]]
:Just because Serebii says they are real does not mean we will put him. He is not and will not be an "official" source because the names have been confirmed so far. Unless we get some type of non-fan site confirmation, we will post them. Until then you can wait. --[[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''☆''']][[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''Pikachu!''']] 23:59, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

== Another random bit of trivia about B/W ==

I saw the "Did You Know" thing about B/W getting a 40/40 in the magazine, and I also wanted to note that they got a 8.75 in Game Informer, which is the highest I'VE seen a Pokemon game get in that magazine. {{Unsigned|Tailzfoxy96}}
:However the significance of the 40/40 is that Famitsu (the magazine in question) very rarely gives perfect scores whereas this other rating is not a perfect score and no matter how high the score or how low previous scores have been it is still not trivia-worthy. --[[User:Daniel1993|だにえる - 千九百九十三 ]] 17:05, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

== Bots Bots Bots! ==

I know this isn't the place for this, but what is with all of the bots on Bulbapedia lately? Have we ever had it this badly? --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 22:49, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
: They broke through the Capcha, we can't stop them now. [[User:Gliscorguy54|Gliscorguy54]] 22:51, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
::Didn't you ask Jello the same question a few days ago? [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 23:33, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
:::Kinda, I asked how they got through the Captcha. Now, I'm asking why the new bot account rate seems to be increasing and if there is some sort of pattern i.e. everytime new games are released. --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 01:31, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
::::Well, duh. If a game is being released, then there is a great influx of readers. With the good comes the bad. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 16:46, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
:::::Okay, well it appears the spam bots have been creating a TON of ''weight loss'' articles. It's not like the bunches of speculation we've ''also'' been getting. Since the spambots have a common factor in their spam, then it's clear that they are all related somehow. Whether they are being created by a company or business is beyond me, but this is beginning to be a bit too much like a forum discussion, so we should just let the admins handle it and get back to editing the mainspace before getting into a big off-topic discussion. --[[User:Landfish7|'''Land''']][[User talk:Landfish7|'''fish7''']]''' 21:53, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

EP058

2011-02-08T23:10:36Z

Magikarp123193: /* Trivia */ Okay, maybe not deliberately (I didn't know what it meant when I first made that edit)

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'''Riddle Me This''' (Japanese: '''もえろ！グレンジム！''' ''Burn! {{tt|Guren|Cinnabar}} Gym!'') is the 58th episode of the [[Pokémon anime]]. It was first broadcast in Japan on August 13, 1998 and in the United States on September 18, 1999.

{{spoilers}}
== Synopsis ==
{{Ash}} and {{ashfr|friends}} take a boat ride, finally going to [[Cinnabar Island]]. However, once there, they meet {{Gary}} and his {{TP|Gary|cheerleaders}}, who explains to them that Cinnabar Island is a tourist resort, and that [[Pokémon Trainer]]s have not ventured to Cinnabar Island since the days of [[Professor Oak|his grandfather]]. Ash then discovers that they, indeed, are on a cruise ship. Once on the island, they decide to find the [[Cinnabar Gym]], and thanks to a local (who tells them by using a riddle which {{an|Misty}} eventually solves), they do find it... only to learn that the Gym has been abandoned. The local tells them the story of how Cinnabar Island was once a hotspot for trainers, but then tourism took off due to the rise of hot springs resorts from the nearby volcano. The Cinnabar Island Gym Leader, [[Blaine]], closed down his Gym due to being forced to battle tourists who had no interest in battling for badges. The local leaves, but not before leaving a business card with Ash to an inn.

Ash and friends decide that, even if there isn't a Gym, there is still a world-famous Pokémon Lab to explore. There, they too discover that it has been turned into a tourist trap. Finding nothing else to do, they decide to look for lodgings, but find that not only is the [[Pokémon Center]]'s lodgings full, all of the hot springs resorts have been fully booked, and they are left with no choice but to camp out. Even Gary has found himself a room, but unfortunately for him, his room entertainment is in the form of {{an|Jigglypuff}}, who puts him to sleep. When {{an|Brock}} reminds Ash of the business card, they find that it also contains directions there... but in the form of a riddle. Ash and Brock are both stumped by it ("...you will see my hands, or at least my face"), but Misty guesses correctly again (that being a clock). The local, who runs the inn, not only has a vacancy, but allows Ash and company to stay for free.

However, before they can settle in, the local receives a phone call, informing him that the Pokémon Lab, home to various {{type2|Fighting}} Pokémon, is under attack from a balloon. Figuring that [[Team Rocket]] is involved, Ash and company arrive at the scene, and quickly dispatch the balloon with help from {{AP|Pikachu}} and {{AP|Pidgeotto}} (via Pikachu's {{m|Thunderbolt}} from the back of Pidgeotto). As a reward for helping to save the Pokémon, the local reveals a secret: that Blaine had built a secret gym, in a place where "firefighters couldn't win".

Later that night, as Ash and friends mull over the riddle in the hot springs, {{TP|Misty|Togepi}} wanders off from Misty and jumps on a {{p|Gyarados}} statue, unwittingly activating a secret switch that moved a boulder, exposing a cave and knocking down the hot springs' gender divider. After quickly getting their clothes back on, Ash and friends explore the secret cave, and find a metal door that's hot to the touch. Beyond the door, they find a clear battlefield - Blaine's secret gym, suspended over the Cinnabar Island volcano. The local suddenly appears, revealing himself to be Blaine, and accepts Ash's challenge.

The Gym Battle begins as a three-on-three battle. Confident that the {{type2|Fire}} leader will use his Fire Pokémon, Ash decides to lead off with {{AP|Squirtle}}, while Blaine counters with a {{p|Ninetales}}. Despite the type advantage, Squirtle's {{m|Water Gun}} is no match for Ninetales' {{m|Fire Spin}}, and Squirtle is out in one shot. Deciding to fight fire with fire, Ash decides to use {{AP|Charizard}} despite its obedience issues. In response, Blaine pulls Ninetales for {{p|Rhydon}}. However, Charizard simply loafs off as Rhydon was about to unleash {{m|Horn Drill}}, unwilling to battle. Quickly down two Pokémon, Ash decides to rely on Pikachu. Pikachu's Thunderbolt does not faze Rhydon at all, but Ash decides to take advantage of using Rhydon's horn as a {{a|Lightningrod}}, and another well-aimed Thunderbolt at the horn knocks it out. However, Blaine isn't fazed, calling out his signature Pokémon, {{TP|Blaine|Magmar}}. Pikachu's electric attacks do not seem to faze him, which, as Brock explains, is due to Magmar using its own body heat as a thermal lance, diffusing the electricity. With Pikachu effectively unable to attack, and Magmar slowly wearing Pikachu out with a series of {{m|Fire Punch}}es, the episode ends on a cliffhanger, as Pikachu finds itself facing down Magmar's {{m|Fire Blast}}, while about to back into the lava. Will Pikachu survive?

== Major events ==
* {{Ash}} and {{ashfr|co.}} reach [[Cinnabar Island]].
* Ash and co. meet [[Blaine]].
* Ash begins his gym {{pkmn|battle|match}} with Blaine.
{{animeevents}}
=== Debuts ===
* [[Blaine]]
==== Pokémon debuts ====
* {{p|Magmar}} ({{OP|Blaine|Magmar}})

== Characters ==
=== Humans ===
* {{Ash}}
* {{an|Misty}}
* {{an|Brock}}
* [[Nurse Joy]]
* [[Jessie]]
* [[James]]
* {{Gary}}
* [[Gary's cheerleaders]]
* [[Blaine]]

=== Pokémon ===
[[Who's That Pokémon?]]: {{p|Magmar}} (''US and international''), [[Electabuzz (Pokémon)|Eleboo]] (''Japan'')

* {{p|Pikachu}} ({{OP|Ash|Pikachu}})
* {{p|Meowth}} ({{TRM}})
* {{p|Togepi}} ({{OP|Misty|Togepi}})
* {{p|Pidgeotto}} ({{OP|Ash|Pidgeotto}})
* {{p|Charizard}} ({{OP|Ash|Charizard}})
* {{p|Squirtle}} ({{OP|Ash|Squirtle}})
* {{p|Ninetales}} ([[Blaine]]'s)
* {{p|Rhydon}} ([[Blaine]]'s)
* {{p|Magmar}} ({{OP|Blaine|Magmar}}; debut)
* {{p|Jigglypuff}} ({{an|Jigglypuff|anime}})
* {{p|Primeape}}
* {{p|Poliwhirl}}
* {{p|Machop}}
* {{p|Machoke}}
* {{p|Hitmonlee}}
* {{p|Hitmonchan}}
* {{p|Electabuzz}}

== Trivia ==
* This is the first time Ash uses his {{AP|Squirtle}} in a Gym match.
* This is an episode where a real world animal is seen. While Ash and his friends are looking for a hotel to stay in, a picture of a tiger can be seen in one of the hotels. In the hotel Gary stayed in, a steaming fish can be seen on the table.
* Pikachu's triumph over Blaine's Rhydon in this episode has spawned the popular Pokémon internet meme, "Pikachu! Aim for the horn!". The phrase is misquoted, though; the actual quote is, "Pikachu, the horn!".
* This is the last occurrence in which the Gym Leader switches out a Pokémon. In subsequent Gym Battle treatments, the Gym Leader is forbidden to switch Pokémon.
* This episode is preceded by different episodes between the original Japanese version and dubbed versions. The episode is preceded by ''[[EP057|The Breeding Center Secret]]'' in the original Japanese version and by ''[[EP053|The Purr-fect Hero]]'' in the dub.
* A {{p|Rhydon}} in this episode uses something similar to the ability {{a|Lightningrod}}, although abilities themselves weren't introduced yet.
*Poliwhirl is the only non-fighting type Pokémon seen at the Pokémon lab.
* This is Ash's Charizard's first non-flashback appearance since ''[[EP046|Attack of the Prehistoric Pokémon]]''
* The dub title is a reference to the {{wp|Batman}} villain {{wp|The Riddler|The Riddler's}} catchphrase; "Riddle me this".
* Rhydon was defeated by an Electric-type attack, even though Rhydon itself is part Ground-type.
* This episode was banned in South Korea.
=== Errors ===

=== Dub edits ===

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Talk:Main Page/Archive 11

2011-01-31T01:03:54Z

Magikarp123193: /* Idea for Pronunciations */ new section

List of TM and HM locations

2011-01-29T00:44:15Z

Magikarp123193: /* TMs */ Specifying.

This is a '''list of the locations of all TMs and HMs''' across all [[Pokémon games]]. Many of the [[TM]]s are not readily available for purchase, and can usually only be acquired once, breaking after use. [[HM]]s, while also only found once, are able to be used repeatedly. However, TMs have also been made reusable in [[Pokémon Black and White]].

==Generation I==
===TMs===
{| class="roundy" align="left" style="background: #{{green color}}; border: 3px solid #{{red color}}; padding:2px;" cellspacing="1"
|-
! TM
! Move
! Type
! Locations
! Price
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|01|Mega Punch}} [[TM01]]
| {{m|Mega Punch}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Mt. Moon]], [[Celadon Department Store]]
| {{PDollar}}3000
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|02|Razor Wind}} [[TM02]]
| {{m|Razor Wind}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| {{OBP|Rocket Hideout|Celadon City}}, [[Celadon Department Store]]
| {{PDollar}}2000
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|03|Swords Dance}} [[TM03]]
| {{m|Swords Dance}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Silph Co.]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|04|Whirlwind}} [[TM04]]
| {{m|Whirlwind}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| {{rt|4|Kanto}}
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|05|Mega Kick}} [[TM05]]
| {{m|Mega Kick}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| {{ka|Victory Road}}, [[Celadon Department Store]]
| {{PDollar}}3000
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Poison|06|Toxic}} [[TM06]]
| {{m|Toxic}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
| Prize for defeating [[Koga]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|07|Horn Drill}} [[TM07]]
| {{m|Horn Drill}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| {{OBP|Rocket Hideout|Celadon City}}, [[Celadon Department Store]]
| {{PDollar}}2000
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|08|Body Slam}} [[TM08]]
| {{m|Body Slam}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[S.S. Anne]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|09|Take Down}} [[TM09]]
| {{m|Take Down}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Silph Co.]], [[Celadon Department Store]]
| {{PDollar}}3000
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|10|Double-Edge}} [[TM10]]
| {{m|Double-Edge}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| {{OBP|Rocket Hideout|Celadon City}}
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Water|11|BubbleBeam}} [[TM11]]
| {{m|BubbleBeam}}
{{typetable|Water}}
| Prize for defeating [[Misty]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Water|12|Water Gun}} [[TM12]]
| {{m|Water Gun}}
{{typetable|Water}}
| [[Mt. Moon]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Ice|13|Ice Beam}} [[TM13]]
| {{m|Ice Beam}}
{{typetable|Ice}}
| [[Celadon Department Store]] roof
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Ice|14|Blizzard}} [[TM14]]
| {{m|Blizzard}}
{{typetable|Ice}}
| {{ka|Pokémon Mansion}}
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|15|Hyper Beam}} [[TM15]]
| {{m|Hyper Beam}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Rocket Game Corner]]
| 5500[[Coin|C]]
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|16|Hyper Beam}} [[TM16]]
| {{m|Pay Day}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| {{rt|12|Kanto}}
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Fighting|17|Submission}} [[TM17]]
| {{m|Submission}}
{{typetable|Fighting}}
| {{ka|Victory Road}}, [[Celadon Department Store]]
| {{PDollar}}3000
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Fighting|18|Counter}} [[TM18]]
| {{m|Counter}}
{{typetable|Fighting}}
| [[Celadon Department Store]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Fighting|19|Seismic Toss}} [[TM19]]
| {{m|Seismic Toss}}
{{typetable|Fighting}}
| {{rt|25|Kanto}}
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|20|Rage}} [[TM20]]
| {{m|Rage}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| {{rt|15|Kanto}}
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Grass|21|Mega Drain}} [[TM21]]
| {{m|Mega Drain}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
| Prize for defeating [[Erika]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Grass|22|SolarBeam}} [[TM22]]
| {{m|SolarBeam}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
| {{ka|Pokémon Mansion}}
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Dragon|23|Dragon Rage}} [[TM23]]
| {{m|Dragon Rage}}
{{typetable|Dragon}}
| [[Rocket Game Corner]]
| 3300[[Coin|C]]
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Electric|24|Thunderbolt}} [[TM24]]
| {{m|Thunderbolt}}
{{typetable|Electric}}
| Prize for defeating [[Lt. Surge]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Electric|25|Thunder}} [[TM25]]
| {{m|Thunder}}
{{typetable|Electric}}
| [[Power Plant]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Ground|26|Earthquake}} [[TM26]]
| {{m|Earthquake}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
| [[Silph Co.]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Ground|27|Fissure}} [[TM27]]
| {{m|Fissure}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
| Prize for defeating [[Giovanni]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Ground|28|Dig}} [[TM28]]
| {{m|Dig}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
| [[Cerulean City]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Psychic|29|Psychic}} [[TM29]]
| {{m|Psychic}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
| [[Saffron City]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Psychic|30|Teleport}} [[TM30]]
| {{m|Teleport}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
| {{rt|9|Kanto}}
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|31|Mimic}} [[TM31]]
| {{m|Mimic}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Saffron City]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|32|Double Team}} [[TM32]]
| {{m|Double Team}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Fuchsia City]], [[Celadon Department Store]]
| {{PDollar}}1000
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Psychic|33|Reflect}} [[TM33]]
| {{m|Reflect}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
| [[Power Plant]], [[Celadon Department Store]]
| {{PDollar}}1000
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|34|Bide}} [[TM34]]
| {{m|Bide}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| Prize for defeating [[Brock]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|35|Metronome}} [[TM35]]
| {{m|Metronome}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Pokémon Lab]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|36|Selfdestruct}} [[TM36]]
| {{m|Selfdestruct}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Silph Co.]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|37|Egg Bomb}} [[TM37]]
| {{m|Egg Bomb}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Fuchsia City]], [[Celadon Department Store]]
| {{PDollar}}2000
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Fire|38|Fire Blast}} [[TM38]]
| {{m|Fire Blast}}
{{typetable|Fire}}
| Prize for defeating [[Blaine]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|39|Swift}} [[TM39]]
| {{m|Swift}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| {{rt|12|Kanto}}
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|40|Skull Bash}} [[TM40]]
| {{m|Skull Bash}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Kanto Safari Zone|Safari Zone]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|41|Softboiled}} [[TM41]]
| {{m|Softboiled}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Celadon City]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Psychic|42|Dream Eater}} [[TM42]]
| {{m|Dream Eater}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
| [[Viridian City]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Flying|43|Sky Attack}} [[TM43]]
| {{m|Sky Attack}}
{{typetable|Flying}}
| {{ka|Victory Road}}
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Psychic|44|Rest}} [[TM44]]
| {{m|Rest}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
| [[S.S. Anne]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Electric|45|Thunder Wave}} [[TM45]]
| {{m|Thunder Wave}}
{{typetable|Electric}}
| {{rt|24|Kanto}}
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Psychic|46|Psywave}} [[TM46]]
| {{m|Psywave}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
| Prize for defeating [[Sabrina]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|47|Explosion}} [[TM47]]
| {{m|Explosion}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| {{ka|Victory Road}}
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Rock|48|Rock Slide}} [[TM48]]
| {{m|Rock Slide}}
{{typetable|Rock}}
| [[Celadon Department Store]] roof
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|49|Tri Attack}} [[TM49]]
| {{m|Tri Attack}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Celadon Department Store]] roof
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|50|Substitute}} [[TM50]]
| {{m|Substitute}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Rocket Game Corner]]
| 7700[[Coin|C]]
|}{{-}}

===HMs===
{| class="roundy" align="left" style="background: #{{green color}}; border: 3px solid #{{red color}}; padding:2px;" cellspacing="1"
|-
! HM
! Move
! Type
! Location
! Badge
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{HMic|Normal|01|Cut}} [[HM01]]
| {{m|Cut}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[S.S. Anne]]
| [[File:Cascadebadge.png|20px]] {{badge|Cascade}}
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{HMic|Flying|02|Fly}} [[HM02]]
| {{m|Fly}}
{{typetable|Flying}}
| {{rt|16|Kanto}}
| [[File:Thunderbadge.png|20px]] {{badge|Thunder}}
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{HMic|Water|03|Surf}} [[HM03]]
| {{m|Surf}}
{{typetable|Water}}
| [[Kanto Safari Zone|Safari Zone]]
| [[File:Soulbadge.png|20px]] {{badge|Soul}}
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{HMic|Normal|04|Strength}} [[HM04]]
| {{m|Strength}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Fuchsia City]]
| [[File:Rainbowbadge.png|20px]] {{badge|Rainbow}}
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{HMic|Normal|05|Flash}} [[HM05]]
| {{m|Flash}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| {{rt|2|Kanto}}
| [[File:Boulderbadge.png|20px]] {{badge|Boulder}}
|}{{-}}

==Generation II==
===TMs===
{| class="roundy" align="left" style="background: #{{silver color}}; border: 3px solid #{{gold color}}; padding:2px;" cellspacing="1"
|-
! TM
! Move
! Type
! Locations
! Price
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Fighting|01|DynamicPunch}} [[TM01]]
| {{m|DynamicPunch}}
{{typetable|Fighting}}
| Prize for defeating [[Chuck]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|02|Headbutt}} [[TM02]]
| {{m|Headbutt}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Ilex Forest]], [[Goldenrod Department Store]]
| {{PDollar}}2000
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Unknown|03|Curse}} [[TM03]]
| {{m|Curse}}
{{typetable|???}}
| [[Celadon|Condominiums|Celadon Mansion]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Rock|04|Rollout}} [[TM04]]
| {{m|Rollout}}
{{typetable|Rock}}
| {{rt|35|Johto}}
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|05|Roar}} [[TM05]]
| {{m|Roar}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| {{rt|32|Johto}}
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Poison|06|Toxic}} [[TM06]]
| {{m|Toxic}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
| Prize for defeating [[Janine]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Electric|07|Zap Cannon}} [[TM07]]
| {{m|Zap Cannon}}
{{typetable|Electric}}
| [[Power Plant]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Fighting|08|Rock Smash}} [[TM08]]
| {{m|Rock Smash}}
{{typetable|Fighting}}
| {{rt|36|Johto}}, [[Goldenrod Department Store]]
| {{PDollar}}2000
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|09|Psych Up}} [[TM09]]
| {{m|Psych Up}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Trade]]d {{p|Abra}} and {{p|Kadabra}} from [[Generation I]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|10|Hidden Power}} [[TM10]]
| {{m|Hidden Power}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Lake of Rage]], [[Celadon Department Store]]
| {{PDollar}}3000
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Fire|11|Sunny Day}} [[TM11]]
| {{m|Sunny Day}}
{{typetable|Fire}}
| [[Celadon Department Store]]
| {{PDollar}}2000
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|12|Sweet Scent}} [[TM12]]
| {{m|Sweet Scent}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| {{rt|34|Johto}}
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|13|Snore}} [[TM13]]
| {{m|Snore}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| {{rt|39|Johto}}
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Ice|14|Blizzard}} [[TM14]]
| {{m|Blizzard}}
{{typetable|Ice}}
| [[Goldenrod Game Corner]]
| 5500[[Coin|C]]
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|15|Hyper Beam}} [[TM15]]
| {{m|Hyper Beam}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Celadon Game Corner]]
| 7500[[Coin|C]]
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Ice|16|Icy Wind}} [[TM16]]
| {{m|Icy Wind}}
{{typetable|Ice}}
| Prize for defeating [[Pryce]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|17|Protect}} [[TM17]]
| {{m|Protect}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Celadon Department Store]]
| {{PDollar}}3000
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Water|18|Rain Dance}} [[TM18]]
| {{m|Rain Dance}}
{{typetable|Water}}
| [[Slowpoke Well]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Grass|19|Giga Drain}} [[TM19]]
| {{m|Giga Drain}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
| Prize for defeating [[Erika]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|20|Endure}} [[TM20]]
| {{m|Endure}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Burned Tower]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|21|Frustration}} [[TM21]]
| {{m|Frustration}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Goldenrod Department Store]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Grass|22|SolarBeam}} [[TM22]]
| {{m|SolarBeam}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
| {{rt|27|Kanto}}
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Steel|23|Iron Tail}} [[TM23]]
| {{m|Iron Tail}}
{{typetable|Steel}}
| Prize for defeating [[Jasmine]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Dragon|24|DragonBreath}} [[TM24]]
| {{m|DragonBreath}}
{{typetable|Dragon}}
| Prize for defeating [[Clair]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Electric|25|Thunder}} [[TM25]]
| {{m|Thunder}}
{{typetable|Electric}}
| [[Goldenrod Game Corner]]
| 5500[[Coin|C]]
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Ground|26|Earthquake}} [[TM26]]
| {{m|Earthquake}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
| {{ka|Victory Road}}
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|27|Return}} [[TM27]]
| {{m|Return}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Goldenrod Department Store]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Ground|28|Dig}} [[TM28]]
| {{m|Dig}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
| [[National Park]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Psychic|29|Psychic}} [[TM29]]
| {{m|Psychic}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
| [[Saffron City]], [[Celadon Game Corner]]
| 3500[[Coin|C]]
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Ghost|30|Shadow Ball}} [[TM30]]
| {{m|Shadow Ball}}
{{typetable|Ghost}}
| Prize for defeating [[Morty]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Ground|31|Mud-Slap}} [[TM31]]
| {{m|Mud-Slap}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
| Prize for defeating [[Falkner]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|32|Double Team}} [[TM32]]
| {{m|Double Team}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Celadon Game Corner]]
| 1500[[Coin|C]]
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Ice|33|Ice Punch}} [[TM33]]
| {{m|Ice Punch}}
{{typetable|Ice}}
| [[Goldenrod Department Store]]
| {{PDollar}}3000
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|34]Swagger}} [[TM34]]
| {{m|Swagger}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Glitter Lighthouse]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|35|Sleep Talk}} [[TM35]]
| {{m|Sleep Talk}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Goldenrod Department Store]] basement
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Poison|36|Sludge Bomb}} [[TM36]]
| {{m|Sludge Bomb}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
| {{rt|43|Johto}}
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Rock|37|Sandstorm}} [[TM37]]
| {{m|Sandstorm}}
{{typetable|Rock}}
| {{rt|27|Kanto}}
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Fire|38|Fire Blast}} [[TM38]]
| {{m|Fire Blast}}
{{typetable|Fire}}
| [[Goldenrod Game Corner]]
| 5500[[Coin|C]]
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|39|Swift}} [[TM39]]
| {{m|Swift}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Union Cave]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|40|Defense Curl}} [[TM40]]
| {{m|Defense Curl}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Mt. Mortar]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Electric|41|ThunderPunch}} [[TM41]]
| {{m|ThunderPunch}}
{{typetable|Electric}}
| [[Goldenrod Department Store]]
| {{PDollar}}3000
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Psychic|42|Dream Eater}} [[TM42]]
| {{m|Dream Eater}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
| [[Viridian City]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Fighting|43|Detect}} [[TM43]]
| {{m|Detect}}
{{typetable|Fighting}}
| [[Lake of Rage]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Psychic|44|Rest}} [[TM44]]
| {{m|Rest}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
| [[Ice Path]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|45|Attract}} [[TM45]]
| {{m|Attract}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| Prize for defeating [[Whitney]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Dark|46|Thief}} [[TM46]]
| {{m|Thief}}
{{typetable|Dark}}
| [[Team Rocket HQ]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Steel|47|Steel Wing}} [[TM47]]
| {{m|Steel Wing}}
{{typetable|Steel}}
| {{rt|28|Kanto}}
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Fire|48|Fire Punch}} [[TM48]]
| {{m|Fire Punch}}
{{typetable|Fire}}
| [[Goldenrod Department Store]]
| {{PDollar}}3000
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Bug|49|Fury Cutter}} [[TM49]]
| {{m|Fury Cutter}}
{{typetable|Bug}}
| Prize for defeating [[Bugsy]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Ghost|50|Nightmare}} [[TM50]]
| {{m|Nightmare}}
{{typetable|Ghost}}
| {{rt|31|Johto}} after delivering {{jo|Webster|Randy}}'s mail
| N/A
|}{{-}}

===HMs===
{| class="roundy" align="left" style="background: #{{silver color}}; border: 3px solid #{{gold color}}; padding:2px;" cellspacing="1"
|-
! HM
! Move
! Type
! Location
! Badge
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{HMic|Normal|01|Cut}} [[HM01]]
| {{m|Cut}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Ilex Forest]]
| [[File:Hivebadge.png|20px]] {{badge|Hive}}
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{HMic|Flying|02|Fly}} [[HM02]]
| {{m|Fly}}
{{typetable|Flying}}
| [[Cianwood City]]
| [[File:Stormbadge.png|20px]] {{badge|Storm}}
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{HMic|Water|03|Surf}} [[HM03]]
| {{m|Surf}}
{{typetable|Water}}
| [[Ecruteak City]]
| [[File:Fogbadge.png|20px]] {{badge|Fog}}
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{HMic|Normal|04|Strength}} [[HM04]]
| {{m|Strength}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Olivine City]]
| [[File:Plainbadge.png|20px]] {{badge|Plain}}
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{HMic|Normal|05|Flash}} [[HM05]]
| {{m|Flash}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Sprout Tower]]
| [[File:Zephyrbadge.png|20px]] {{badge|Zephyr}}
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{HMic|Water|06|Whirlpool}} [[HM06]]
| {{m|Whirlpool}}
{{typetable|Water}}
| [[Team Rocket HQ]]
| [[File:Glacierbadge.png|20px]] {{badge|Glacier}}
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{HMic|Water|07|Waterfall}} [[HM07]]
| {{m|Waterfall}}
{{typetable|Water}}
| [[Ice Path]]
| [[File:Risingbadge.png|20px]] {{badge|Rising}}
|}{{-}}

==Generation III==
===TMs===
{| class="roundy" align="left" style="background: #{{sapphire color}}; border: 3px solid #{{ruby color}}; padding:2px;" cellspacing="1"
|-
! style="background: #{{sapphire color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" rowspan="2" | TM
! style="background: #{{sapphire color light}};" rowspan="2" | Move
! style="background: #{{sapphire color light}};" rowspan="2" | Type
! style="background: #{{sapphire color light}};" colspan="2" | Locations
! style="background: #{{sapphire color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" rowspan="2" | Price
|-
! style="background: #{{sapphire color light}};" | Hoenn
! style="background: #{{sapphire color light}};" | Kanto/Sevii
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Fighting|01|Focus Punch}} [[TM01]]
| {{m|Focus Punch}}
{{typetable|Fighting}}
| {{rt|115|Hoenn}}, {{A|Pickup}}{{sup|E}} (1% chance, lv 71-90)
| [[Silph Co.]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Dragon|02|Dragon Claw}} [[TM02]]
| {{m|Dragon Claw}}
{{typetable|Dragon}}
| [[Meteor Falls]]
| {{ka|Victory Road}}
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Water|03|Water Pulse}} [[TM03]]
| {{m|Water Pulse}}
{{typetable|Water}}
| Prize for defeating [[Wallace]]/[[Juan]]
| Prize for defeating [[Misty]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Psychic|04|Calm Mind}} [[TM04]]
| {{m|Calm Mind}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
| Prize for defeating [[Tate & Liza]]
| Prize for defeating [[Sabrina]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|05|Roar}} [[TM05]]
| {{m|Roar}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| {{rt|114|Hoenn}}
| {{rt|4|Kanto}}
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Poison|06|Toxic}} [[TM06]]
| {{m|Toxic}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
| [[Fiery Path]]
| Prize for defeating [[Koga]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Ice|07|Hail}} [[TM07]]
| {{m|Hail}}
{{typetable|Ice}}
| [[Shoal Cave]]
| {{ka|Victory Road}}
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Fighting|08|Bulk Up}} [[TM08]]
| {{m|Bulk Up}}
{{typetable|Fighting}}
| Prize for defeating [[Brawly]]
| [[Silph Co.]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Grass|09|Bullet Seed}} [[TM09]]
| {{m|Bullet Seed}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
| {{rt|104|Hoenn}}
| [[Mt. Moon]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|10|Hidden Power}} [[TM10]]
| {{m|Hidden Power}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Fortree City]], [[Slateport City]]
| {{a|Pickup}} (5% chance)
| {{PDollar}}3000
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Fire|11|Sunny Day}} [[TM11]]
| {{m|Sunny Day}}
{{typetable|Fire}}
| [[Scorched Slab]]
| [[Kanto Safari Zone|Safari Zone]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Dark|12|Taunt}} [[TM12]]
| {{m|Taunt}}
{{typetable|Dark}}
| [[Trick House]]
| {{OBP|Rocket Hideout|Celadon City}}
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Ice|13|Ice Beam}} [[TM13]]
| {{m|Ice Beam}}
{{typetable|Ice}}
| [[Abandoned Ship]], [[Mauville Game Corner]]
| [[Celadon Game Corner]]
| 4000[[Coin|C]]
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Ice|14|Blizzard}} [[TM14]]
| {{m|Blizzard}}
{{typetable|Ice}}
| [[Lilycove Department Store]]
| {{ka|Pokémon Mansion}}
| {{PDollar}}5500
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|15|Hyper Beam}} [[TM15]]
| {{m|Hyper Beam}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Lilycove Department Store]]
| [[Celadon Department Store]]
| {{PDollar}}7500
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Psychic|16|Light Screen}} [[TM16]]
| {{m|Light Screen}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
| [[Lilycove Department Store]]
| [[Celadon Department Store]]
| {{PDollar}}3000
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|17|Protect}} [[TM17]]
| {{m|Protect}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Lilycove Department Store]]
| [[Power Plant]]
| {{PDollar}}3000
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Water|18|Rain Dance}} [[TM18]]
| {{m|Rain Dance}}
{{typetable|Water}}
| [[Abandoned Ship]]
| {{rt|15|Kanto}}
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Grass|19|Giga Drain}} [[TM19]]
| {{m|Giga Drain}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
| {{rt|123|Hoenn}}
| Prize for defeating [[Erika]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|20|Safeguard}} [[TM20]]
| {{m|Safeguard}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Lilycove Department Store]]
| [[Celadon Department Store]]
| {{PDollar}}3000
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|21|Frustration}} [[TM21]]
| {{m|Frustration}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Pacifidlog Town]]
| {{OBP|Rocket Hideout|Celadon City}}
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Grass|22|SolarBeam}} [[TM22]]
| {{m|SolarBeam}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
| {{ho|Safari Zone}}
| {{ka|Pokémon Mansion}}
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Steel|23|Iron Tail}} [[TM23]]
| {{m|Iron Tail}}
{{typetable|Steel}}
| [[Meteor Falls]]
| [[Celadon Game Corner]]
| 3500[[Coin|C]]
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Electric|24|Thunderbolt}} [[TM24]]
| {{m|Thunderbolt}}
{{typetable|Electric}}
| Gift from [[Wattson]], [[Mauville Game Corner]]
| [[Celadon Game Corner]]
| 4000[[Coin|C]]
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Electric|25|Thunder}} [[TM25]]
| {{m|Thunder}}
{{typetable|Electric}}
| [[Lilycove Department Store]]
| [[Power Plant]]
| {{PDollar}}5500
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Ground|26|Earthquake}} [[TM26]]
| {{m|Earthquake}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
| [[Seafloor Cavern]], {{A|Pickup}}{{sup|E}} (1% chance, lv 91-100)
| Prize for defeating [[Giovanni]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|27|Return}} [[TM27]]
| {{m|Return}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Fallarbor Town]], [[Pacifidlog Town]]
| {{rt|12|Kanto}}
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Ground|28|Dig}} [[TM28]]
| {{m|Dig}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
| {{rt|114|Hoenn}}
| [[Cerulean City]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Psychic|29|Psychic}} [[TM29]]
| {{m|Psychic}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
| [[Mauville Game Corner]]
| [[Saffron City]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Ghost|30|Shadow Ball}} [[TM30]]
| {{m|Shadow Ball}}
{{typetable|Ghost}}
| [[Mt. Pyre]]
| [[Celadon Game Corner]]
| 3500[[Coin|C]]
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Fighting|31|Brick Break}} [[TM31]]
| {{m|Brick Break}}
{{typetable|Fighting}}
| [[Sootopolis City]]
| [[Celadon Department Store]], [[S.S. Anne]]
| {{PDollar}}3000
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|32|Double Team}} [[TM32]]
| {{m|Double Team}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| {{rt|113|Hoenn}}, [[Mauville Game Corner]]
| [[Kanto Safari Zone|Safari Zone]]
| 1500[[Coin|C]]
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Psychic|33|Reflect}} [[TM33]]
| {{m|Reflect}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
| [[Lilycove Department Store]]
| [[S.S. Anne]], [[Celadon Department Store]]
| {{PDollar}}3000
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Electric|34|Shock Wave}} [[TM34]]
| {{m|Shock Wave}}
{{typetable|Electric}}
| Prize for defeating [[Wattson]]
| Prize for defeating [[Lt. Surge]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Fire|35|Flamethrower}} [[TM35]]
| {{m|Flamethrower}}
{{typetable|Fire}}
| [[Mauville Game Corner]]
| [[Celadon Game Corner]]
| 4000[[Coin|C]]
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Poison|36|Sludge Bomb}} [[TM36]]
| {{m|Sludge Bomb}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
| [[Dewford Town]]
| [[Rocket Warehouse]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Rock|37|Sandstorm}} [[TM37]]
| {{m|Sandstorm}}
{{typetable|Rock}}
| {{rt|111|Hoenn}}
| {{ka|Victory Road}}
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Fire|38|Fire Blast}} [[TM38]]
| {{m|Fire Blast}}
{{typetable|Fire}}
| [[Lilycove Department Store]]
| Prize for defeating [[Blaine]], [[Silph Co.]]
| {{PDollar}}5500
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Rock|39|Rock Tomb}} [[TM39]]
| {{m|Rock Tomb}}
{{typetable|Rock}}
| Prize for defeating [[Roxanne]]
| Prize for defeating [[Brock]], [[Silph Co.]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Flying|40|Aerial Ace}} [[TM40]]
| {{m|Aerial Ace}}
{{typetable|Flying}}
| Prize for defeating [[Winona]]
| {{rt|9|Kanto}}
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Dark|41|Torment}} [[TM41]]
| {{m|Torment}}
{{typetable|Dark}}
| [[Slateport City]]
| [[Silph Co.]]
| {{PDollar}}5500
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|42|Facade}} [[TM42]]
| {{m|Facade}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| Prize for defeating [[Norman]]
| [[Ruin Valley]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|43|Secret Power}} [[TM43]]
| {{m|Secret Power}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| {{rt|111|Hoenn}}, [[Slateport City]]
| {{rt|24|Kanto}}, [[Celadon Department Store]]
| {{PDollar}}3000
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Psychic|44|Rest}} [[TM44]]
| {{m|Rest}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
| [[Lilycove City]], {{a|Pickup}}{{sup|E}} (1% chance, lv 51-70)
| {{rt|9|Kanto}}
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|45|Attract}} [[TM45]]
| {{m|Attract}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Verdanturf Town]]
| {{rt|24|Kanto}}, [[Celadon Department Store]]
| {{PDollar}}3000
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Dark|46|Thief}} [[TM46]]
| {{m|Thief}}
{{typetable|Dark}}
| [[Slateport City]]
| [[Mt. Moon]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Steel|47|Steel Wing}} [[TM47]]
| {{m|Steel Wing}}
{{typetable|Steel}}
| [[Granite Cave]]
| [[Kanto Safari Zone|Safari Zone]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Psychic|48|Skill Swap}} [[TM48]]
| {{m|Skill Swap}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
| [[Mt. Pyre]]
| {{rt|12|Kanto}}
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Dark|49|Snatch}} [[TM49]]
| {{m|Snatch}}
{{typetable|Dark}}
| [[S.S. Tidal]]
| {{OBP|Rocket Hideout|Celadon City}}
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Fire|50|Overheat}} [[TM50]]
| {{m|Overheat}}
{{typetable|Fire}}
| Prize for defeating [[Flannery]]
| {{ka|Victory Road}}
| N/A
|}{{-}}

===HMs===
{| class="roundy" align="left" style="background: #{{sapphire color}}; border: 3px solid #{{ruby color}}; padding:2px;" cellspacing="1"
|-
! style="background: #{{sapphire color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" rowspan="2" | TM
! style="background: #{{sapphire color light}};" rowspan="2" | Move
! style="background: #{{sapphire color light}};" rowspan="2" | Type
! style="background: #{{sapphire color light}};" colspan="2" | Locations
! style="background: #{{sapphire color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" colspan="2" | Badge
|-
! style="background: #{{sapphire color light}};" | Hoenn
! style="background: #{{sapphire color light}};" | Kanto/Sevii
! style="background: #{{sapphire color light}};" | Hoenn
! style="background: #{{sapphire color light}};" | Kanto
|-
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{HMic|Normal|01|Cut}} [[HM01]]
| {{m|Cut}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Rustboro City]]
| [[S.S. Anne]]
| align="center" | [[File:Stonebadge.png|20px]] {{badge|Stone}}
| align="center" | [[File:Cascadebadge.png|20px]] {{badge|Cascade}}
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{HMic|Flying|02|Fly}} [[HM02]]
| {{m|Fly}}
{{typetable|Flying}}
| [[Fortree City]]
| {{rt|16|Kanto}}
| align="center" | [[File:Featherbadge.png|20px]] {{badge|Feather}}
| align="center" | [[File:Thunderbadge.png|20px]] {{badge|Thunder}}
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{HMic|Water|03|Surf}} [[HM03]]
| {{m|Surf}}
{{typetable|Water}}
| [[Petalburg City]]
| [[Kanto Safari Zone|Safari Zone]]
| align="center" | [[File:Balancebadge.png|20px]] {{badge|Balance}}
| align="center" | [[File:Soulbadge.png|20px]] {{badge|Soul}}
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{HMic|Normal|04|Strength}} [[HM04]]
| {{m|Strength}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Rusturf Tunnel]]
| [[Fuchsia City]]
| align="center" | [[File:Heatbadge.png|20px]] {{badge|Heat}}
| align="center" | [[File:Rainbowbadge.png|20px]] {{badge|Rainbow}}
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{HMic|Normal|05|Flash}} [[HM05]]
| {{m|Flash}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Granite Cave]]
| {{rt|2|Kanto}}
| align="center" | [[File:Knucklebadge.png|20px]] {{badge|Knuckle}}
| align="center" | [[File:Boulderbadge.png|20px]] {{badge|Boulder}}
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{HMic|Fighting|06|Rock Smash}} [[HM06]]
| {{m|Rock Smash}}
{{typetable|Fighting}}
| [[Mauville City]]
| [[Ember Spa]]
| align="center" | [[File:Dynamobadge.png|20px]] {{badge|Dynamo}}
| align="center" | [[File:Marshbadge.png|20px]] {{badge|Marsh}}
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{HMic|Water|07|Waterfall}} [[HM07]]
| {{m|Waterfall}}
{{typetable|Water}}
| [[Cave of Origin]]{{sup|RS}}, Given by [[Wallace]]{{sup|E}}
| [[Icefall Cave]]
| align="center" | [[File:Rainbadge.png|20px]] {{badge|Rain}}
| align="center" | [[File:Volcanobadge.png|20px]] {{badge|Volcano}}
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{HMic|Water|08|Dive}} [[HM08]]
| {{m|Dive}}{{tt|*|Dive is unavailable in Kanto}}
{{typetable|Water}}
| [[Mossdeep City]]
| align="center" | —
| align="center" | [[File:Mindbadge.png|20px]] {{badge|Mind}}
| align="center" | —
|}{{-}}

==Generation IV==
===TMs===
{| class="roundy" align="left" style="background: #{{pearl color}}; border: 3px solid #{{diamond color}}; padding:2px;" cellspacing="1"
|-
! style="background: #{{pearl color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" rowspan="2" | TM
! style="background: #{{pearl color light}};" rowspan="2" | Move
! style="background: #{{pearl color light}};" rowspan="2" | Type
! style="background: #{{pearl color light}};" colspan="2" | Locations
! style="background: #{{pearl color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" rowspan="2" | Price
|-
! style="background: #{{pearl color light}};" width="50%" | Sinnoh
! style="background: #{{pearl color light}};" width="50%" | Johto/Kanto
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Fighting|01|Focus Punch}} [[TM01]]
| {{m|Focus Punch}}
{{typetable|Fighting}}
| [[Oreburgh Gate]], {{A|Pickup}} (1% chance, lv 71-90)
| Prize for defeating [[Chuck]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Dragon|02|Dragon Claw}} [[TM02]]
| {{m|Dragon Claw}}
{{typetable|Dragon}}
| [[Mt. Coronet]]
| {{rt|27|Kanto}}, [[Goldenrod City]] Lottery
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Water|03|Water Pulse}} [[TM03]]
| {{m|Water Pulse}}
{{typetable|Water}}
| [[Ravaged Path]]
| Prize for beating [[Misty]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Psychic|04|Calm Mind}} [[TM04]]
| {{m|Calm Mind}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
| {{si|Battle Tower}} prize
| {{Gdis|Battle Frontier|IV}} prize
| 48[[Battle Point|BP]]
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|05|Roar}} [[TM05]]
| {{m|Roar}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| {{rt|213|Sinnoh}}
| {{rt|32|Johto}}
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Poison|06|Toxic}} [[TM06]]
| {{m|Toxic}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
| {{rt|212|Sinnoh}}, {{si|Battle Tower}} prize
| {{Gdis|Battle Frontier|IV}} prize
| 32[[Battle Point|BP]]
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Ice|07|Hail}} [[TM07]]
| {{m|Hail}}
{{typetable|Ice}}
| {{rt|217|Sinnoh}}
| Prize for defeating [[Pryce]], [[Pokéwalker]] ({{pw|Icy Mountain Rd.}})
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Fighting|08|Bulk Up}} [[TM08]]
| {{m|Bulk Up}}
{{typetable|Fighting}}
| {{si|Battle Tower}} prize
| {{Gdis|Battle Frontier|IV}} prize
| 48[[Battle Point|BP]]
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Grass|09|Bullet Seed}} [[TM09]]
| {{m|Bullet Seed}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
| {{rt|204|Sinnoh}}
| {{rt|32|Johto}}
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|10|Hidden Power}} [[TM10]]
| {{m|Hidden Power}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Veilstone Game Corner]]
| [[Lake of Rage]], [[Celadon Game Corner]], [[Pokéwalker]] ({{pw|Quiet Cave}})
| 6000[[Coin|C]]
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Fire|11|Sunny Day}} [[TM11]]
| {{m|Sunny Day}}
{{typetable|Fire}}
| {{rt|212|Sinnoh}}
| [[Goldenrod Radio Tower]], [[Pokéwalker]] ({{pw|Blue Lake}})
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Dark|12|Taunt}} [[TM12]]
| {{m|Taunt}}
{{typetable|Dark}}
| {{rt|211|Sinnoh}}
| {{rt|34|Johto}} outpost, [[Burned Tower]], [[Celadon Department Store]]
| {{PDollar}}1500
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Ice|13|Ice Beam}} [[TM13]]
| {{m|Ice Beam}}
{{typetable|Ice}}
| {{rt|216|Sinnoh}}, [[Veilstone Game Corner]]
| [[Goldenrod Game Corner]], [[Seafoam Islands]]
| 10000[[Coin|C]]
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Ice|14|Blizard}} [[TM14]]
| {{m|Blizzard}}
{{typetable|Ice}}
| [[Lake Acuity]], [[Veilstone Department Store]]
| [[Goldenrod Department Store]]
| {{PDollar}}5500
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|15|Hyper Beam}} [[TM15]]
| {{m|Hyper Beam}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Veilstone Department Store]]
| [[Goldenrod City Department Store]], [[Pokéwalker]] ({{pw|Quiet Cave}})
| {{PDollar}}7500
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Psychic|16|Light Screen}} [[TM16]]
| {{m|Light Screen}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
| [[Veilstone Department Store]]
| [[Goldenrod Department Store]]
| {{PDollar}}2000
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|17|Protect}} [[TM17]]
| {{m|Protect}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Veilstone Department Store]]
| [[Goldenrod Department Store]]
| {{PDollar}}2000
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Water|18|Rain Dance}} [[TM18]]
| {{m|Rain Dance}}
{{typetable|Water}}
| {{rt|213|Sinnoh}}
| [[Slowpoke Well]], [[Pokéwalker]] ({{pw|Dim Cave}})
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Grass|19|Giga Drain}} [[TM19]]
| {{m|Giga Drain}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
| {{rt|209|Sinnoh}}
| Prize for defeating [[Erika]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|20|Safeguard}} [[TM20]]
| {{m|Safeguard}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Veilstone Department Store]]
| [[Celadon Department Store]]
| {{PDollar}}2000
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|21|Frustration}} [[TM21]]
| {{m|Frustration}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Veilstone Game Corner]]
| [[Celadon Department Store]]
| 8000[[Coin|C]], {{PDollar}}1000
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Grass|22|SolarBeam}} [[TM22]]
| {{m|SolarBeam}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
| [[Veilstone Department Store]]
| [[Goldenrod Department Store]]
| {{PDollar}}3000
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Steel|23|Iron Tail}} [[TM23]]
| {{m|Iron Tail}}
{{typetable|Steel}}
| [[Iron Island]]
| Prize for defeating [[Jasmine]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Electric|24|Thunderbolt}} [[TM24]]
| {{m|Thunderbolt}}
{{typetable|Electric}}
| [[Veilstone Game Corner]], [[Valley Windworks]]
| [[Goldenrod Game Corner]], [[Cerulean Cave]]
| 10000[[Coin|C]]
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Electric|25|Thunder}} [[TM25]]
| {{m|Thunder}}
{{typetable|Electric}}
| [[Lake Valor]], [[Veilstone Department Store]]
| [[Goldenrod Department Store]]
| {{PDollar}}5500
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Ground|26|Earthquake}} [[TM26]]
| {{m|Earthquake}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
| [[Wayward Cave]] (secret entrance under bike path), {{si|Battle Tower}} prize, {{a|Pickup}} (1% chance, lv 91-100)
| {{ka|Victory Road}}, {{Gdis|Battle Frontier|IV}} prize, {{A|Pickup}} (1% chance, lv 91-100)
| 80[[Battle Point|BP]]
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|27|Return}} [[TM27]]
| {{m|Return}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Veilstone Game Corner]], [[Professor Rowan]]{{tt|*|Platinum only}}
| [[Goldenrod Department Store]], [[Celadon Department Store]]
| 8000[[Coin|C]], {{PDollar}}1000
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Ground|28|Dig}} [[TM28]]
| {{m|Dig}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
| {{rt|214|Sinnoh}}
| [[National Park]], [[Celadon Department Store]]
| {{PDollar}}2000
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Psychic|29|Psychic}} [[TM29]]
| {{m|Psychic}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
| [[Veilstone Game Corner]], {{rt|211|Sinnoh}}
| [[Celadon Game Corner]], gift from [[Mr. Psychic]], [[Pokéwalker]] ({{pw|Night Sky's Edge}})
| 10000[[Coin|C]]
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Ghost|30|Shadow Ball}} [[TM30]]
| {{m|Shadow Ball}}
{{typetable|Ghost}}
| {{rt|210|Sinnoh}}
| Prize for defeating [[Morty]], {{Gdis|Battle Frontier|IV}} prize
| 64 [[Battle Point|BP]]
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Fighting|31|Brick Break}} [[TM31]]
| {{m|Brick Break}}
{{typetable|Fighting}}
| {{si|Battle Tower}} prize, [[Oreburgh Gate]] (basement)
| {{Gdis|Battle Frontier|IV}} prize
| 40[[Battle Point|BP]]
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|32|Double Team}} [[TM32]]
| {{m|Double Team}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Wayward Cave]], [[Veilstone Game Corner]]
| [[Celadon Game Corner]]
| 4000[[Coin|C]]
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Psychic|33|Reflect}} [[TM33]]
| {{m|Reflect}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
| [[Veilstone Department Store]]
| [[Goldenrod Department Store]]
| {{PDollar}}2000
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Electric|34|Shock Wave}} [[TM34]]
| {{m|Shock Wave}}
{{typetable|Electric}}
| {{rt|215|Sinnoh}}
| Prize for defeating [[Lt. Surge]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Fire|35|Flamethrower}} [[TM35]]
| {{m|Flamethrower}}
{{typetable|Fire}}
| [[Veilstone Game Corner]], [[Fuego Ironworks]]
| [[Goldenrod Game Corner]], {{rt|28|Kanto}}
| 10000[[Coin|C]]
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Poison|36|Sludge Bomb}} [[TM36]]
| {{m|Sludge Bomb}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
| [[Galactic Warehouse]], {{si|Battle Tower}} prize
| {{rt|43|Johto}}, {{Gdis|Battle Frontier|IV}} prize
| 80[[Battle Point|BP]]
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Rock|37|Sandstorm}} [[TM37]]
| {{m|Sandstorm}}
{{typetable|Rock}}
| {{rt|228|Sinnoh}}
| {{rt|27|Kanto}}, [[Pokéwalker]] ({{pw|Town Outskirts}})
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Fire|38|Fire Blast}} [[TM38]]
| {{m|Fire Blast}}
{{typetable|Fire}}
| [[Lake Verity]], [[Veilstone Department Store]]
| [[Goldenrod Department Store]]
| {{PDollar}}5500
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Rock|39|Rock Tomb}} [[TM39]]
| {{m|Rock Tomb}}
{{typetable|Rock}}
| [[Ravaged Path]]
| [[Union Cave]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Flying|40|Aerial Ace}} [[TM40]]
| {{m|Aerial Ace}}
{{typetable|Flying}}
| {{rt|213|Sinnoh}}, {{si|Battle Tower}} prize
| [[Mt. Mortar]], {{Gdis|Battle Frontier|IV}} prize
| 40 [[Battle Point|BP]]
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Dark|41|Torment}} [[TM41]]
| {{m|Torment}}
{{typetable|Dark}}
| {{si|Victory Road}}
| {{rt|8|Kanto}}, [[Celadon Department Store]]
| {{PDollar}}1500
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|42|Facade}} [[TM42]]
| {{m|Facade}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Survival Area]]
| [[Goldenrod City]] Lottery
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|43|Secret Power}} [[TM43]]
| {{m|Secret Power}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Amity Square]]
| [[Lake of Rage]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Psychic|44|Rest}} [[TM44]]
| {{m|Rest}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
| [[Veilstone Game Corner]], {{A|Pickup}} (1% chance, lv 51-70)
| {{rt|31|Johto}}, [[Goldenrod Game Corner]]
| 6000[[Coin|C]]
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|45|Attract}} [[TM45]]
| {{m|Attract}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| {{si|Battle Tower}} prize, [[Amity Square]]
| Prize for defeating [[Whitney]], {{Gdis|Battle Frontier|IV}} prize
| 32[[Battle Point|BP]]
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Dark|46|Thief}} [[TM46]]
| {{m|Thief}}
{{typetable|Dark}}
| [[Eterna City]]
| [[Team Rocket HQ]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Steel|47|Steel Wing}} [[TM47]]
| {{m|Steel Wing}}
{{typetable|Steel}}
| {{rt|209|Sinnoh}}
| {{rt|28|Kanto}}
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Psychic|48|Skill Swap}} [[TM48]]
| {{m|Skill Swap}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
| [[Canalave City]]
| Prize for defeating [[Sabrina]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Dark|49|Snatch}} [[TM49]]
| {{m|Snatch}}
{{typetable|Dark}}
| [[Galactic Warehouse]]
| [[Team Rocket HQ]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Fire|50|Overheat}} [[TM50]]
| {{m|Overheat}}
{{typetable|Fire}}
| [[Stark Mountain]]
| Prize for defeating [[Blaine]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Flying|51|Roost}} [[TM51]]
| {{m|Roost}}
{{typetable|Flying}}
| {{rt|210|Sinnoh}}
| Prize for defeating [[Falkner]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Fighting|52|Focus Blast}} [[TM52]]
| {{m|Focus Blast}}
{{typetable|Fighting}}
| [[Veilstone Department Store]]
| [[Goldenrod Department Store]]
| {{PDollar}}5500
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Grass|53|Energy Ball}} [[TM53]]
| {{m|Energy Ball}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
| {{si|Battle Tower}} prize, {{rt|226|Sinnoh}}
| {{Gdis|Battle Frontier|IV}} prize
| 64[[Battle Point|BP]]
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|54|False Swipe}} [[TM54]]
| {{m|False Swipe}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Veilstone Department Store]]
| [[Goldenrod Department Store]]
| {{PDollar}}2000
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Water|55|Brine}} [[TM55]]
| {{m|Brine}}
{{typetable|Water}}
| Prize for defeating [[Crasher Wake]]
| [[Celadon Department Store]], {{rt|19|Kanto}}
| {{PDollar}}3000
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Dark|56|Fling}} [[TM56]]
| {{m|Fling}}
{{typetable|Dark}}
| {{rt|222|Sinnoh}}
| [[Rock Tunnel]], {{a|Pickup}} (1% chance, lv 51-70)
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Electric|57|Charge Beam}} [[TM57]]
| {{m|Charge Beam}}
{{typetable|Electric}}
| Prize for defeating [[Volkner]]
| [[Olivine City]], [[Power Plant]] (after returning the [[List_of_key_items_in_Generation_IV#Machine Part|Machine Part]]), [[Goldenrod City]] Lottery
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|58|Endure}} [[TM58]]
| {{m|Endure}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Veilstone Game Corner]]
| [[Celadon Game Corner]]
| 2000[[Coin|C]]
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Dragon|59|Dragon Pulse}} [[TM59]]
| {{m|Dragon Pulse}}
{{typetable|Dragon}}
| {{si|Battle Tower}} prize, {{si|Victory Road}}
| Prize for defeating [[Clair]], {{Gdis|Battle Frontier|IV}} prize
| 80[[Battle Point|BP]]
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Fighting|60|Drain Punch}} [[TM60]]
| {{m|Drain Punch}}
{{typetable|Fighting}}
| Prize for defeating [[Maylene]]
| {{rt|39|Johto}}, [[Goldenrod City]] Lottery
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Fire|61|Will-O-Wisp}} [[TM61]]
| {{m|Will-O-Wisp}}
{{typetable|Fire}}
| {{si|Battle Tower}} prize
| {{Gdis|Battle Frontier|IV}} prize
| 32[[Battle Point|BP]]
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Bug|62|Silver Wind}} [[TM62]]
| {{m|Silver Wind}}
{{typetable|Bug}}
| {{rt|212|Sinnoh}}
| {{rt|6|Kanto}}, [[Goldenrod City]] Lottery
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Dark|63|Embargo}} [[TM63]]
| {{m|Embargo}}
{{typetable|Dark}}
| [[Veilstone City]]
| {{rt|34|Johto}}
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|64|Explosion}} [[TM64]]
| {{m|Explosion}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Veilstone Game Corner]]
| [[Underground Path (Routes 5-6)]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Ghost|65|Shadow Claw}} [[TM65]]
| {{m|Shadow Claw}}
{{typetable|Ghost}}
| Prize for defeating [[Fantina]]
| {{rt|42|Johto}}, [[Goldenrod City]] Lottery
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Dark|66|Payback}} [[TM66]]
| {{m|Payback}}
{{typetable|Dark}}
| {{rt|215|Sinnoh}}
| {{rt|35|Johto}}
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|67|Recycle}} [[TM67]]
| {{m|Recycle}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| {{rt|205|Sinnoh}}
| [[Celadon City]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|68|Giga Impact}} [[TM68]]
| {{m|Giga Impact}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Veilstone Game Corner]]
| [[Celadon Game Corner]], [[Pokéwalker]] ({{pw|White Lake}})
| 20000[[Coin|C]], 15000[[Coin|C]]
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Rock|69|Rock Polish}} [[TM69]]
| {{m|Rock Polish}}
{{typetable|Rock}}
| [[Mt. Coronet]]
| {{rt|10|Kanto}}
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|70|Flash}} [[TM70]]
| {{m|Flash}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Veilstone Department Store]], [[Oreburgh Gate]] (basement)
| [[Sprout Tower]], [[Goldenrod Department Store]]
| {{PDollar}}1000
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Rock|71|Stone Edge}} [[TM71]]
| {{m|Stone Edge}}
{{typetable|Rock}}
| {{si|Battle Tower}} prize, {{si|Victory Road}}
| {{Gdis|Battle Frontier|IV}} prize
| 80[[Battle Point|BP]]
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Ice|72|Avalanche}} [[TM72]]
| {{m|Avalanche}}
{{typetable|Ice}}
| Prize for defeating [[Candice]]
| [[Ice Path]], [[Celadon Department Store]]
| {{PDollar}}3000
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Electric|73|Thunder Wave}} [[TM73]]
| {{m|Thunder Wave}}
{{typetable|Electric}}
| {{si|Battle Tower}} prize
| {{Gdis|Battle Frontier|IV}} prize
| 32[[Battle Point|BP]]
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Steel|74|Gyro Ball}} [[TM74]]
| {{m|Gyro Ball}}
{{typetable|Steel}}
| [[Veilstone Game Corner]]
| [[Celadon Game Corner]]
| 15000[[Coin|C]], 10000[[Coin|C]]
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|75|Swords Dance}} [[TM75]]
| {{m|Swords Dance}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Veilstone Game Corner]]
| [[Goldenrod Game Corner]]
| 4000[[Coin|C]]
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Rock|76|Stealth Rock}} [[TM76]]
| {{m|Stealth Rock}}
{{typetable|Rock}}
| Prize for defeating [[Roark]]
| [[Celadon Department Store]], [[Mt. Silver]]
| {{PDollar}}2000
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|77|Psych Up}} [[TM77]]
| {{m|Psych Up}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| {{rt|211|Sinnoh}}
| [[Viridian Forest]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|78|Captivate}} [[TM78]]
| {{m|Captivate}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| {{si|Victory Road}}
| [[Celadon Department Store]]
| {{PDollar}}1500
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Dark|79|Dark Pulse}} [[TM79]]
| {{m|Dark Pulse}}
{{typetable|Dark}}
| {{si|Victory Road}}
| {{ka|Victory Road}}, [[Celadon Department Store]]
| {{PDollar}}3000
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Rock|80|Rock Slide}} [[TM80]]
| {{m|Rock Slide}}
{{typetable|Rock}}
| [[Mt. Coronet]]
| Prize for defeating [[Brock]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Bug|81|X-Scissor}} [[TM81]]
| {{m|X-Scissor}}
{{typetable|Bug}}
| {{si|Battle Tower}} prize, {{rt|221|Sinnoh}}
| {{Gdis|Battle Frontier|IV}} prize
| 64[[Battle Point|BP]]
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|82|Sleep Talk}} [[TM82]]
| {{m|Sleep Talk}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Eterna Forest]]
| [[Goldenrod Tunnel]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|83|Natural Gift}} [[TM83]]
| {{m|Natural Gift}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Veilstone Department Store]]
| [[Goldenrod Department Store]]
| {{PDollar}}2000
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Poison|84|Poison Jab}} [[TM84]]
| {{m|Poison Jab}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
| {{rt|212|Sinnoh}}
| Prize for defeating [[Janine]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Psychic|85|Dream Eater}} [[TM85]]
| {{m|Dream Eater}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
| [[Valor Lakefront]]
| [[Viridian City]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Grass|86|Grass Knot}} [[TM86]]
| {{m|Grass Knot}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
| Prize for defeating [[Gardenia]]
| {{rt|11|Kanto}}, {{a|Pickup}} (1% chance, lv 71-90)
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|87|Swagger}} [[TM87]]
| {{m|Swagger}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| {{si|Pokémon Mansion}}
| [[Glitter Lighthouse]], [[Celadon Department Store]]
| {{PDollar}}1500
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Flying|88|Pluck}} [[TM88]]
| {{m|Pluck}}
{{typetable|Flying}}
| [[Floaroma Town]]
| {{rt|40|Johto}}
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Bug|89|U-turn}} [[TM89]]
| {{m|U-turn}}
{{typetable|Bug}}
| [[Veilstone Game Corner]], [[Canalave City]]
| Prize for defeating [[Bugsy]], {{Gdis|Battle Frontier|IV}} prize
| 6000[[Coin|C]], 40[[Battle Point|BP]]
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|90|Substitute}} [[TM90]]
| {{m|Substitute}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Veilstone Game Corner]]
| [[Goldenrod Game Corner]]
| 2000[[Coin|C]]
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Steel|91|Flash Cannon}} [[TM91]]
| {{m|Flash Cannon}}
{{typetable|Steel}}
| Prize for defeating [[Byron]]
| {{rt|9|Kanto}}, [[Goldenrod City]] Lottery
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Psychic|92|Trick Room}} [[TM92]]
| {{m|Trick Room}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
| {{rt|213|Sinnoh}}
| Prize for defeating {{ga|Blue}}
| N/A
|}{{-}}

===HMs===
{| class="roundy" align="left" style="background: #{{pearl color}}; border: 3px solid #{{diamond color}}; padding:2px;" cellspacing="1"
|-
! style="background: #{{pearl color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" rowspan="2" | TM
! style="background: #{{pearl color light}};" rowspan="2" | Move
! style="background: #{{pearl color light}};" rowspan="2" | Type
! style="background: #{{pearl color light}};" colspan="3" | Locations
! style="background: #{{pearl color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" colspan="3" | Badge
|-
! style="background: #{{pearl color light}};" | D/P
! style="background: #{{pearl color light}};" | Pt
! style="background: #{{pearl color light}};" | HGSS
! style="background: #{{pearl color light}};" | D/P
! style="background: #{{pearl color light}};" | Pt
! style="background: #{{pearl color light}};" | HGSS
|-
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{HMic|Normal|01|Cut}} [[HM01]]
| {{m|Cut}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| colspan="2" | [[Eterna City]]
| [[Ilex Forest]]
| colspan="2" | [[File:Forestbadge.png|20px]] {{badge|Forest}}
| [[File:Hivebadge.png|20px]] {{badge|Hive}}
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{HMic|Flying|02|Fly}} [[HM02]]
| {{m|Fly}}
{{typetable|Flying}}
| colspan="2" | [[Veilstone City]]
| [[Cianwood City]]
| colspan="2" | [[File:Cobblebadge.png|20px]] {{badge|Cobble}}
| [[File:Stormbadge.png|20px]] {{badge|Storm}}
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{HMic|Water|03|Surf}} [[HM03]]
| {{m|Surf}}
{{typetable|Water}}
| colspan="2" | [[Celestic Town]]
| [[Ecruteak City]]
| [[File:Relicbadge.png|20px]] {{badge|Relic}}
| [[File:Fenbadge.png|20px]] {{badge|Fen}}
| align="center" | [[File:Fogbadge.png|20px]] {{badge|Fog}}
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{HMic|Normal|04|Strength}} [[HM04]]
| {{m|Strength}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Lost Tower]]
| [[Iron Island]]
| {{rt|42|Johto}}
| colspan="2" | [[File:Minebadge.png|20px]] {{badge|Mine}}
| [[File:Plainbadge.png|20px]] {{badge|Plain}}
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{HMic|Flying|05|Defog}} [[HM05]]
| {{m|Defog}}{{tt|*|Defog is not HM05 in Johto}}
{{typetable|Flying}}
| [[Great Marsh]]
| [[Solaceon Ruins]]
| —
| [[File:Fenbadge.png|20px]] {{badge|Fen}}
| [[File:Relicbadge.png|20px]] {{badge|Relic}}
| —
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{HMic|Water|05|Whirlpool}} [[HM05]]
| {{m|Whirlpool}}{{tt|*|Whirlpool is not HM05 in Sinnoh}}
{{typetable|Water}}
| colspan="2" | —
| [[Mahogany Town]]
| colspan="2" | —
| [[File:Glacierbadge.png|20px]] {{badge|Glacier}}
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{HMic|Fighting|06|Rock Smash}} [[HM06]]
| {{m|Rock Smash}}
{{typetable|Fighting}}
| colspan="2" | [[Oreburgh Gate]]
| {{rt|36|Johto}}
| colspan="2" | [[File:Coalbadge.png|20px]] {{badge|Coal}}
| [[File:Zephyrbadge.png|20px]] {{badge|Zephyr}}
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{HMic|Water|07|Waterfall}} [[HM07]]
| {{m|Waterfall}}
{{typetable|Water}}
| colspan="2" | [[Sunyshore City]]
| [[Ice Path]]
| colspan="2" | [[File:Beaconbadge.png|20px]] {{badge|Beacon}}
| [[File:Risingbadge.png|20px]] {{badge|Rising}}
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{HMic|Normal|08|Rock Climb}} [[HM08]]
| {{m|Rock Climb}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| colspan="2" | {{rt|217|Sinnoh}}
| [[Pallet Town]]
| colspan="2" | [[File:Iciclebadge.png|20px]] {{badge|Icicle}}
| [[File:Earthbadge.png|20px]] {{badge|Earth}}
|}{{-}}

==Generation V==
===TMs===
{| class="roundy" align="left" style="background: #{{white color}}; border: 3px solid #{{black color}}; padding:2px;" cellspacing="1"
|-
! TM
! Move
! Type
! Locations
! Price
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Dark|01|Hone Claws}} [[TM01]]
| {{m|Hone Claws}}
{{typetable|Dark}}
| [[Freezing Container]], from one of the [[Seven Sages]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Dragon|02|Dragon Claw}} [[TM02]]
| {{m|Dragon Claw}}
{{typetable|Dragon}}
| {{un|Victory Road}}
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Psychic|03|Psycho Shock}} [[TM03]]
| {{m|Psycho Shock}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
| [[Giant Hole]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Psychic|04|Calm Mind}} [[TM04]]
| {{m|Calm Mind}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
| [[Ancient Castle]], from one of the [[Seven Sages]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|05|Roar}} [[TM05]]
| {{m|Roar}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| {{rt|10|Unova}}
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Poison|06|Toxic}} [[TM06]]
| {{m|Toxic}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
| {{rt|17|Unova}}
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Ice|07|Hail}} [[TM07]]
| {{m|Hail}}
{{typetable|Ice}}
| [[Fukiyose City]] PokéMart
| {{pdollar}}50000
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Fighting|08|Bulk Up}} [[TM08]]
| {{m|Bulk Up}}
{{typetable|Fighting}}
| {{rt|14|Unova}}, from one of the [[Seven Sages]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Poison|09|Venom Shock}} [[TM09]]
| {{m|Venom Shock}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
| {{rt|15|Unova}}
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|10|Hidden Power}} [[TM10]]
| {{m|Hidden Power}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Kanoko Town]], from [[Professor Juniper]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Fire|11|Sunny Day}} [[TM11]]
| {{m|Sunny Day}}
{{typetable|Fire}}
| [[Fukiyose City]] PokéMart
| {{pdollar}}50000
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Dark|12|Taunt}} [[TM12]]
| {{m|Taunt}}
{{typetable|Dark}}
| {{un|Victory Road}}
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Ice|13|Ice Beam}} [[TM13]]
| {{m|Ice Beam}}
{{typetable|Ice}}
| [[Giant Hole]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Ice|14|Blizzard}} [[TM14]]
| {{m|Blizzard}}
{{typetable|Ice}}
| [[Sekka City]] PokéMart
| {{pdollar}}70000
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|15|Hyper Beam}} [[TM15]]
| {{m|Hyper Beam}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| {{rt|9|Unova}} Dept. Store
| {{pdollar}}90000
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Psychic|16|Light Screen}} [[TM16]]
| {{m|Light Screen}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
| [[Raimon City]] PokéMart
| {{pdollar}}30000
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Water|18|Rain Dance}} [[TM18]]
| {{m|Rain Dance}}
{{typetable|Water}}
| [[Fukiyose City]] PokéMart
| {{pdollar}}50000
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Psychic|19|Telekinesis}} [[TM19]]
| {{m|Telekinesis}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
| {{rt|18|Unova}}
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|20|Safeguard}} [[TM20]]
| {{m|Safeguard}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Raimon City]] PokéMart
| {{pdollar}}30000
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|21|Frustration}} [[TM21]]
| {{m|Frustration}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Raimon City]] PokéMart
| {{pdollar}}10000
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Grass|22|SolarBeam}} [[TM22]]
| {{m|SolarBeam}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
| [[Yaguruma Forest]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Rock|23|Knock Down}} [[TM23]]
| {{m|Knock Down}}
{{typetable|Rock}}
| [[Battle Subway]]
| 36[[Battle Point|BP]]
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Electric|24|Thunderbolt}} [[TM24]]
| {{m|Thunderbolt}}
{{typetable|Electric}}
| [[P2 Lab]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Electric|25|Thunder}} [[TM25]]
| {{m|Thunder}}
{{typetable|Electric}}
| [[Sekka City]] PokéMart
| {{pdollar}}70000
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Ground|26|Earthquake}} [[TM26]]
| {{m|Earthquake}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
| [[Ancient Castle]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|27|Return}} [[TM27]]
| {{m|Return}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Raimon City]] PokéMart
| {{pdollar}}10000
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Ground|28|Dig}} [[TM28]]
| {{m|Dig}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
| {{rt|4|Unova}}
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Psychic|29|Psychic}} [[TM29]]
| {{m|Psychic}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
| {{rt|13|Unova}}
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Ghost|30|Shadow Ball}} [[TM30]]
| {{m|Shadow Ball}}
{{typetable|Ghost}}
| [[Ancient Castle]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Fighting|31|Brick Break}} [[TM31]]
| {{m|Brick Break}}
{{typetable|Fighting}}
| [[Sekka City]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|32|Double Team}} [[TM32]]
| {{m|Double Team}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| {{rt|18|Unova}}, from one of the [[Seven Sages]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Psychic|33|Reflect}} [[TM33]]
| {{m|Reflect}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
| [[Raimon City]] PokéMart
| {{pdollar}}30000
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Poison|34|Slime Wave}} [[TM34]]
| {{m|Slime Wave}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
| [[Battle Subway]]
| 48[[Battle Point|BP]]
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Fire|35|Flamethrower}} [[TM35]]
| {{m|Flamethrower}}
{{typetable|Fire}}
| [[Honor Shrine]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Poison|36|Sludge Bomb}} [[TM36]]
| {{m|Sludge Bomb}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
| {{rt|8|Unova}}
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Rock|37|Sandstorm}} [[TM37]]
| {{m|Sandstorm}}
{{typetable|Rock}}
| [[Fukiyose City]] PokéMart
| {{pdollar}}50000
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Fire|38|Fire Blast}} [[TM38]]
| {{m|Fire Blast}}
{{typetable|Fire}}
| [[Sekka City]] PokéMart
| {{pdollar}}70000
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Rock|39|Rock Tomb}} [[TM39]]
| {{m|Rock Tomb}}
{{typetable|Rock}}
| [[Resort Desert]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Flying|40|Aerial Ace}} [[TM40]]
| {{m|Aerial Ace}}
{{typetable|Flying}}
| [[Fukiyose City]] Runway{{tt|*|after talking to NPC behind the Pokémon Center}}
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Dark|41|Torment}} [[TM41]]
| {{m|Torment}}
{{typetable|Dark}}
| {{rt|4|Unova}}
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|42|Facade}} [[TM42]]
| {{m|Facade}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| {{rt|8|Unova}}
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Fire|43|Nitro Charge}} [[TM43]]
| {{m|Nitro Charge}}
{{typetable|Fire}}
| [[Cylinder Bridge]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Psychic|44|Rest}} [[TM44]]
| {{m|Rest}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
| [[Castelia City]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|45|Attract}} [[TM45]]
| {{m|Attract}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Castelia City]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Dark|46|Thief}} [[TM46]]
| {{m|Thief}}
{{typetable|Dark}}
| [[Underground Waterway Opening]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Fighting|47|Ankle Sweep}} [[TM47]]
| {{m|Ankle Sweep}}
{{typetable|Fighting}}
| [[Underground Waterway Opening]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|48|Canon}} [[TM48]]
| {{m|Canon}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Battle Subway]]
| 36[[Battle Point|BP]]
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|49|Echo Voice}} [[TM49]]
| {{m|Echo Voice}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Raimon City]] Musical Hall
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Fire|50|Overheat}} [[TM50]]
| {{m|Overheat}}
{{typetable|Fire}}
| {{rt|11|Unova}}
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Psychic|51|Side Change}} [[TM51]]
| {{m|Side Change}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
| [[Battle Subway]]
| 36[[Battle Point|BP]]
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Fighting|52|Focus Blast}} [[TM52]]
| {{m|Focus Blast}}
{{typetable|Fighting}}
| [[Underground Waterway Opening]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Grass|53|Energy Ball}} [[TM53]]
| {{m|Energy Ball}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
| {{rt|12|Unova}}
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|54|False Swipe}} [[TM54]]
| {{m|False Swipe}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Kanoko Town]], from [[Professor Juniper]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Water|55|Boiling Water}} [[TM55]]
| {{m|Boiling Water}}
{{typetable|Water}}
| [[Freezing Container]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Dark|56|Fling}} [[TM56]]
| {{m|Fling}}
{{typetable|Dark}}
| {{rt|12|Unova}}
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Electric|57|Charge Beam}} [[TM57]]
| {{m|Charge Beam}}
{{typetable|Electric}}
| {{rt|7|Unova}}
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Flying|58|Sky Drop}} [[TM58]]
| {{m|Sky Drop}}
{{typetable|Flying}}
| {{rt|7|Unova}}
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Fire|59|Devastate}} [[TM59]]
| {{m|Devastate}}
{{typetable|Fire}}
| [[Battle Subway]]
| 48[[Battle Point|BP]]
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Dark|60|Postpone}} [[TM60]]
| {{m|Postpone}}
{{typetable|Dark}}
| [[Battle Subway]]
| 48[[Battle Point|BP]]
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Fire|61|Will-O-Wisp}} [[TM61]]
| {{m|Will-O-Wisp}}
{{typetable|Fire}}
| [[Tower of Heaven]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Flying|62|Acrobatics}} [[TM62]]
| {{m|Acrobatics}}
{{typetable|Flying}}
| Prize for defeating [[Fuuro]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Dark|63|Embargo}} [[TM63]]
| {{m|Embargo}}
{{typetable|Dark}}
| [[Dragon Spiral Tower]] (outside)
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|64|Explosion}} [[TM64]]
| {{m|Explosion}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Battle Subway]]
| 48[[Battle Point|BP]]
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Ghost|65|Shadow Claw}} [[TM65]]
| {{m|Shadow Claw}}
{{typetable|Ghost}}
| [[Tower of Heaven]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Dark|66|Payback}} [[TM66]]
| {{m|Payback}}
{{typetable|Dark}}
| {{rt|16|Unova}}
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|67|Retaliation}} [[TM67]]
| {{m|Retaliation}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| Prize for defeating [[Aloe]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|68|Giga Impact}} [[TM68]]
| {{m|Giga Impact}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| {{rt|9|Unova}} Dept. Store
| {{pdollar}}90000
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Rock|69|Rock Polish}} [[TM69]]
| {{m|Rock Polish}}
{{typetable|Rock}}
| [[Electric Rock Cave]], from one of the [[Seven Sages]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|70|Flash}} [[TM70]]
| {{m|Flash}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Castelia City]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Rock|71|Stone Edge}} [[TM71]]
| {{m|Stone Edge}}
{{typetable|Rock}}
| [[Training Cavern]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Electric|72|Volt Change}} [[TM72]]
| {{m|Volt Change}}
{{typetable|Electric}}
| Prize for defeating [[Kamitsure]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Electric|73|Thunder Wave}} [[TM73]]
| {{m|Thunder Wave}}
{{typetable|Electric}}
| [[Raimon City]] PokéMart
| {{pdollar}}10000
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Steel|74|Gyro Ball}} [[TM74]]
| {{m|Gyro Ball}}
{{typetable|Steel}}
| [[Raimon City]] PokéMart
| {{pdollar}}10000
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|75|Swords Dance}} [[TM75]]
| {{m|Swords Dance}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Site of Dreams]], from one of the [[Seven Sages]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Bug|76|Struggle Bug}} [[TM76]]
| {{m|Struggle Bug}}
{{typetable|Bug}}
| Prize for defeating [[Arti]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|77|Psych Up}} [[TM77]]
| {{m|Psych Up}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Battle Subway]]
| 48[[Battle Point|BP]]
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Ground|78|Smooth Over}} [[TM78]]
| {{m|Smooth Over}}
{{typetable|Ground}}
| Prize for defeating [[Yacon]]{{tt|*|obtained once the player reaches the entrance of Electric Rock Cave after defeating Yacon}}
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Ice|79|Ice Breath}} [[TM79]]
| {{m|Ice Breath}}
{{typetable|Ice}}
| Prize for defeating [[Hachiku]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Rock|80|Rock Slide}} [[TM80]]
| {{m|Rock Slide}}
{{typetable|Rock}}
| [[Fukiyose Cave]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Bug|81|X-Scissor}} [[TM81]]
| {{m|X-Scissor}}
{{typetable|Bug}}
| {{rt|7|Unova}}
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Dragon|82|Dragon Tail}} [[TM82]]
| {{m|Dragon Tail}}
{{typetable|Dragon}}
| Prize for defeating [[Iris]]{{sup|W}} or [[Shaga]]{{sup|Bl}}
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|83|Cheer Up}} [[TM83]]
| {{m|Cheer Up}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| Prize for defeating [[Dent]], [[Pod]] or [[Corn]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Poison|84|Poison Jab}} [[TM84]]
| {{m|Poison Jab}}
{{typetable|Poison}}
| {{rt|6|Unova}}
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Psychic|85|Dream Eater}} [[TM85]]
| {{m|Dream Eater}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
| [[Site of Dreams]] (basement)
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Grass|86|Grass Knot}} [[TM86]]
| {{m|Grass Knot}}
{{typetable|Grass}}
| [[Yaguruma Forest]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|87|Swagger}} [[TM87]]
| {{m|Swagger}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Battle Subway]]
| 36[[Battle Point|BP]]
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Flying|88|Pluck}} [[TM88]]
| {{m|Pluck}}
{{typetable|Flying}}
| [[Battle Subway]]
| 36[[Battle Point|BP]]
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Bug|89|U-turn}} [[TM89]]
| {{m|U-turn}}
{{typetable|Bug}}
| {{rt|13|Unova}}
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Normal|90|Substitute}} [[TM90]]
| {{m|Substitute}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Sekka City]] (Winter)
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Steel|91|Flash Cannon}} [[TM91]]
| {{m|Flash Cannon}}
{{typetable|Steel}}
| [[Spiral Mountain]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Psychic|92|Trick Room}} [[TM92]]
| {{m|Trick Room}}
{{typetable|Psychic}}
| [[Honor Shrine]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Electric|93|Wild Charge}} [[TM93]]
| {{m|Wild Charge}}
{{typetable|Electric}}
| {{un|Victory Road}}
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Fighting|94|Rock Smash}} [[TM94]]
| {{m|Rock Smash}}
{{typetable|Fighting}}
| [[Yaguruma Forest]]
| N/A
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{TMic|Dark|95|Bark Out}} [[TM95]]
| {{m|Bark Out}}
{{typetable|Dark}}
| [[Castelia City]] (Requires Lock Capsule)
| N/A
|}{{-}}

===HMs===
{| class="roundy" align="left" style="background: #{{white color}}; border: 3px solid #{{black color}}; padding:2px;" cellspacing="1"
|-
! HM
! Move
! Type
! Location
! Badge
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{HMic|Normal|01|Cut}} [[HM01]]
| {{m|Cut}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Sanyou City]]
| [[File:Tri Badge.png|20px]] {{badge|Tri}}
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{HMic|Flying|02|Fly}} [[HM02]]
| {{m|Fly}}
{{typetable|Flying}}
| {{rt|6|Unova}}
| [[File:Quake Badge.png|20px]] {{badge|Quake}}
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{HMic|Water|03|Surf}} [[HM03]]
| {{m|Surf}}
{{typetable|Water}}
| {{rt|7|Unova}}
| [[File:Jet Badge.png|20px]] {{badge|Jet}}
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{HMic|Normal|04|Strength}} [[HM04]]
| {{m|Strength}}
{{typetable|Normal}}
| [[Raimon City]]
| [[File:Bolt Badge.png|20px]] {{badge|Bolt}}
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{HMic|Water|05|Waterfall}} [[HM05]]
| {{m|Waterfall}}
{{typetable|Water}}
| {{rt|18|Unova}}
| [[File:UnovaIcicle Badge.png|20px]] {{badge|Icicle}}
|- align="center" style="background: #FFFFFF;"
! {{HMic|Water|06|Dive}} [[HM06]]
| {{m|Dive}}
{{typetable|Water}}
| [[Sazanami Town]]
| [[File:Legend Badge.png|20px]] {{badge|Legend}}
|}{{-}}

[[Category:TMs|* 2]]
[[Category:HMs|* 2]]
[[Category:Lists]]

Talk:Cilan's Pansage

2011-01-01T20:52:07Z

Magikarp123193: /* Dent's Yanappu > Dent's Pansage */ new section

can someone change the pic to Dent Yanappu?--[[User:Burgundy|Burg]][[User talk: Burgundy|undy]] 19:46, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
:And the caption from Dent and Yanappu to Yanappu?--[[User:Dennou Zenshi|でんのう]] ☢ [[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|'''Z'''えんし]] 19:49, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

plz can people edit this page, the whole Leer thing is over and I need to edit it plz [[User:Roryrules123|Roryrules123]] 16:51 22 October 2010 (UTC)

{{tt|Could an Admin remove extra '''の''' from infobox?|Unprotecting article wouldn't hurt, either...}}--[[User:Dennou Zenshi|でんのう]] ☢ [[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|'''Z'''えんし]] 11:23, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

== Recently used moves! ==
As of BW009, which is the latest pokemon episode. Yanappu has used [[Bullet Seed]] and [[Solarbeam]] while fighting the wild [[Pendra]], but when i add that blue cross that shows that a move has been used recently, someone keeps deleting it. Why??? [[User:TheBlackPokemonMaster]]
:Admins made a new rule that state that if a move was used within 10 episodes since the most recent episode then it's considered "Recently used". That's why; all the moves Yanappu has used are considered recent. [[Typhlosion|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon|★]] [[User_talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]] 17:52, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

::then why doesn't any of the moves have the "blue cross" next to them. [[User:TheBlackPokemonMaster]]
:::"A † shows that the move was used recently, unless all moves fit this case. " That's why. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 21:44, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

oh yeah, i forgot. Thanks for reminding me :-) [[User:TheBlackPokemonMaster]]

To be honest, that part should be made bold, like '''this''', so people don't overlook it. -'''[[User:Gengarzilla|I Liek Gengarz!]] [[User talk:Gengarzilla|Do Joo Liek Dem?]]''' 19:14, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

== Bullet Seed and Bite ==

OK I could be wrong about this but didn't Yanappu first use these two moves in BW004??? I know he used solarbeam in BW005 but the other two were used sooner no??[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] 00:30, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
:Yanappu nor Dent appeared in [[BW004]]. All moves were first used in [[BW005]]. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 00:34, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
lol sorry my bad I got mixed up.[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] 00:35, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

== Bullet Seed or Seed Bomb? ==
Wait, which one it knows? First one is written in the History section, while the second - in the Moves table.
--[[User:ЫъГЬ|ЫъГЬ]] 12:22, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
:Bullet seed, whoever editted must be trolling [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 13:34, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

== Dig ==

Just curious as to why it was deleted that Yanappu used dig for the first time from the history section?? I would think it was important especially since if I'm not mistaken, it used it to help find the hermit crab in the BW011. If I'm mistaken then I'm sorry but I don't think it was hurting anybody by saying it used dig for the fist time. I'm not saying it learned dig I'm saying it used it for the first time as far as we know.[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] 06:21, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
:I don't see the point of pointing it out. Lot's of Pokémon are seen using moves for the first time but we don't point them out. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 06:24, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
:We mentioned the move in its respective section and even though it was the first, it didn't help much and is not ''that'' important (no offense, just saying (: ). We'll get a lot more episodes for Yana to add the stuff. So, chill pill ;) ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 06:26, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Didn't it use it twice in the episode to help Dent with something? If it helps in the episode isn't it conciderd important? Also it has been mentioned on other pages when a pokemon uses a move for the first time so why is it different here?[[User:1rkhachatryan|RBK]] 07:01, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

== Male? ==

Where the proof that it's male? Did [[Ash's Snivy]] use {{m|Attract}} on it or something? --'''[[User:Netto-kun|Netto-kun]]''' [[User talk:Netto-kun|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Netto-kun|Contribs]] 14:42, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
:[http://www.serebii.net/blackwhite/wifievents.shtml This.] Mamepato is female and their movesets are exactly same as in anime.----'''''無限の知性''''' ◎ [[User:Dennou Zenshi|ＤＥＮＮＯＵ]]'''[[Special:Random|◆]]'''[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|ＺＥＮＳＨＩ]] 14:46, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
::I don't think we should post it just yet. Just like we do not post an evolution untill it happens in the anime, just incase the in game clones happen to be slightly different for some unknown reason.--'''[[User:EpicShadow|Epic]][[User talk:EpicShadow|Shadow]]''' 15:04, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
:::I think we should put Male (confirmed in game counterpart only), and the same for Kibago, if we can't just put male (Though I think if it was unconfirmed, the Pokémon would just be made to hatch with a random gender) [[User:Torngentleman2|MAMOSWINEPwnz! (TaleOfTheToaster)]] 20:23, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
::::I agree, because we put also dub confirmations, which aren't {{tt|Japanese|canon}}, unlike the game event.----'''''無限の知性''''' ◎ [[User:Dennou Zenshi|ＤＥＮＮＯＵ]]'''[[Special:Random|◆]]'''[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|ＺＥＮＳＨＩ]] 20:32, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

== Dent's Yanappu > Dent's Pansage ==

Could somebody move this page to Dent's Pansage? After all, that ''is'' the English name. [[User:Magikarp123193|magikarp123193]] 20:52, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Biruritchi (TCG GB)

2010-12-21T17:13:52Z

Magikarp123193: /* Biruritchi or Vilrich? */

I keep forgetting that game exists. T_T They never translated it, did they? -[[User:Ketsuban|Ketsuban]]

Nope. It's a pretty cool game too. :( -[[user:greengiant|greengiant]]

Wasn't the full title something like "Pokemon Trading Card Game 2--Return of the Great Rocket Gang"? --BJ

Yes, that's true, but I didn't know how to reference it because it was never made into an English game. The style says to go by the English version name, which was "Pokemon Trading Card Game" so I just attached a 2 on there, as it would be expected to be called if it were translated. The full Japanese name is ポケモンカードGB2　GR団参上！ (Pokemon Card GB2: Enter GR Gang!), so maybe I should use that? -greengiant

Does King really belong in the name? His "name" is Biruritchi/Biruricchi (whatever it may be) and his "class" is "GR Gang King," unlike, say, someone whose name is "Lt. Surge" and whose class is "Leader." I'd like to know before moving it, as it's been moved before and was reverted back quickly. -[[User:Happy Mask Man|Happy Mask Man]] 08:55, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

== Biruritchi or Vilrich? ==

I think that this page should be moved to King Vilrich. After all, it is easier on the tongue. [[User:Magikarp123193|magikarp123193]] 23:41, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
:Uh, hello? Is anyone there? It's been 6 months and I still haven't received an answer! [[User:Magikarp123193|magikarp123193]] 17:13, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Mienfoo (Pokémon)

2010-12-04T20:52:09Z

Magikarp123193: /* Origin */ Speculation. Use the forums.

{{Unknown Pokémon}}
{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Maggyo | next=Kojondo| prevnum=618| nextnum=620| type=Fighting }}
{{PokémonInfobox|
jname=コジョフー |
tmname=Kojofu |
size=155px|
art=BW |
pron=<sc>''{{{pron|pee-kah-bloo}}}''</sc> |
species=Martial Arts |
typen=1 |
type1=Fighting |
abilityn=2 |
ability1=Inner Focus |
ability2=Regeneration |
abilityd=Reckless |
ndex=619|
udex=125 |
height-ftin=2'11" |
height-m=0.9 |
weight-lbs=44.1 |
weight-kg=20.0 |
egggroupn=2 |
egggroup1=Ground |
egggroup2=Humanshape |
eggcycles=25 |
expyield=70 |
lv100exp=1,059,860 |
gendercode=127 |
color=Yellow |
catchrate=180 |
body=Unknown |
pokefordex= |
generation=5 |
evat=1|
footnotes=}}
([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''コジョフー''' ''Kojofu'') is a {{type2|Fighting}} Pokémon introduced in [[Generation V]].

It [[Evolution|evolves]] into {{p|Kojondo}} starting at [[level]] 50.

==Biology==
===Physiology===
Kojofu is a yellow, bipedal, mustelid-like Pokémon, with round ears, red eyes, round black ‘eyebrows,’ and pink nose with a whisker on each side. Its red arms look similar to flared sleeves, and the paws are yellow. Kojofu’s chest has a small red band, and its pelt piles around its thighs like a tunic or robe of some sort. Its legs are red, and its yellow tail is also tipped in the color.
====Gender differences====

===Special abilities===
Kojofu can attack very skillfully.
===Behavior===

===Habitat===

===Diet===


==Game data==

===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex
|type=Fighting
|gen=5
|whitedex={{tt|かれいな　れんぞくわざの　つかいて。せいしん　とういつすると　わざの　キレと　スピードが　ますのだ。|Uses magnificent consecutive attacks. When it unifies its mind, the sharpness and speed of its attacks increase.}}
}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability|
type=Fighting|
gen=5 |
bwrarity=Unknown|
bwarea=[[Dragon Spiral Tower]], {{un|Victory Road}}, {{rt|14|Unova}} |
}}

====In side games====

===Held items===

===Stats===
====Base stats====
{{BaseStats|
type=Fighting|
HP=45|
Attack=85|
Defense=50|
SpAtk=55|
SpDef=50|
Speed=65}}

===Type effectiveness===
{{Type effectiveness|
type1=Fighting|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting= 100 |
Flying= 200 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 100 |
Rock= 50 |
Bug= 50 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 100 |
Water= 100 |
Grass= 100 |
Electric= 100 |
Psychic= 200 |
Ice= 100 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 50
}}

===Learnset===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{learnlist/levelh|Kojofu|Fighting|Fighting|5|5}}
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Pound|Normal|Physical|40|100|35}}
{{learnlist/level5|5|Meditate|Psychic|Status|—|—|40}}
{{learnlist/level5|9|Detect|Fighting|Status|—|—|5}}
{{learnlist/level5|13|Fake Out|Normal|Physical|40|100|10}}
{{learnlist/level5|17|DoubleSlap|Normal|Physical|15|85|10}}
{{learnlist/level5|21|Swift|Normal|Special|60|—|20}}
{{learnlist/level5|25|Calm Mind|Psychic|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/level5|29|Force Palm|Fighting|Physical|60|100|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|33|Drain Punch|Fighting|Physical|75|100|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|37|Jump Kick|Fighting|Physical|100|95|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|41|U-turn|Bug|Physical|70|100|20}}
{{learnlist/level5|45|Fast Guard|Fighting|Status|—|—|15}}
{{learnlist/level5|49|Bounce|Flying|Physical|85|85|5}}
{{learnlist/level5|53|Hi Jump Kick|Fighting|Physical|130|90|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|57|Reversal|Fighting|Physical|—|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|61|Aura Sphere|Fighting|Special|90|—|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/levelf|Kojofu|Fighting|Fighting|5|5}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{learnlist/tmh|Kojofu|Fighting|Fighting|5|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM04|Calm Mind|Psychic|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM06|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|90|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM08|Bulk Up|Fighting|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM10|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|—|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM11|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|—|—|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM12|Taunt|Dark|Status|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM17|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM18|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM21|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM27|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM28|Dig|Ground|Physical|80|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM31|Brick Break|Fighting|Physical|75|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM32|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM33|Reflect|Psychic|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM39|Rock Tomb|Rock|Physical|50|80|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM40|Aerial Ace|Flying|Physical|60|—|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM42|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM44|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM45|Attract|Normal|Status|—|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM47|Ankle Sweep|Fighting|Physical|60|100|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM48|Canon|Normal|Special|60|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM52|Focus Blast|Fighting|Special|120|70|5||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM56|Fling|Dark|Physical|—|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM62|Acrobat|Flying|Physical|55|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM66|Payback|Dark|Physical|50|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM67|Retaliation|Normal|Physical|70|100|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM71|Stone Edge|Rock|Physical|100|80|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM75|Swords Dance|Normal|Status|—|—|30}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM77|Psych Up|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM80|Rock Slide|Rock|Physical|75|90|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM83|Cheer Up|Normal|Status|—|—|30}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM84|Poison Jab|Poison|Physical|80|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM86|Grass Knot|Grass|Special|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM87|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM89|U-turn|Bug|Physical|70|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM90|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM94|Rock Smash|Fighting|Physical|40|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|HM04|Strength|Normal|Physical|80|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tmf|Kojofu|Fighting|Fighting|5|5}}

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
{{learnlist/breedh|Kojofu|Fighting|Fighting|5|5}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|122|Mr. Mime}}{{MSP|133|Eevee}}{{MSP|161|Sentret}}{{MSP|162|Furret}}{{MSP|190|Aipom}} {{MSP|424|Ambipom}}{{MSP|203|Girafarig}}{{MSP|303|Mawile}}{{MSP|427|Buneary}}{{MSP|428|Lopunny}}{{MSP|504|Minezumi}} {{MSP|505|Miruhog}}|Baton Pass|Normal|Status|—|—|40|||}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|106|Hitmonlee}}{{MSP|220|Swinub}}{{MSP|221|Piloswine}}{{MSP|473|Mamoswine}}{{MSP|231|Phanpy}}{{MSP|288|Vigoroth}} {{MSP|296|Makuhita}}{{MSP|297|Hariyama}}{{MSP|417|Pachirisu}}{{MSP|427|Buneary}}{{MSP|428|Lopunny}}{{MSP|538|Nageki}} {{MSP|539|Dageki}}{{MSP|613|Kumasyun}}{{MSP|614|Tsunbear}}|Endure|Normal|Status|—|—|10|||}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|025|Pikachu}}{{MSP|052|Meowth}}{{MSP|053|Persian}}{{MSP|106|Hitmonlee}}{{MSP|107|Hitmonchan}}{{MSP|237|Hitmontop}} {{MSP|307|Meditite}}{{MSP|308|Medicham}}{{MSP|352|Kecleon}}{{MSP|359|Absol}}{{MSP|391|Monferno}}{{MSP|392|Infernape}} {{MSP|434|Stunky}}{{MSP|435|Skuntank}}{{MSP|448|Lucario}}|Feint|Normal|Physical|30|100|10|||}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|083|Farfetch'd}}{{MSP|232|Donphan}}{{MSP|296|Makuhita}}{{MSP|297|Hariyama}}{{MSP|302|Sableye}}|Knock Off|Dark|Physical|20|100|40|||}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|056|Mankey}}{{MSP|057|Primeape}}{{MSP|066|Machop}}{{MSP|067|Machoke}}{{MSP|068|Machamp}}{{MSP|125|Electabuzz}} {{MSP|466|Electivire}}{{MSP|505|Miruhog}}{{MSP|532|Dokkora}}{{MSP|533|Dotekkotsu}}{{MSP|534|Roobushin}}{{MSP|559|Zuruggu}} {{MSP|560|Zuruzukin}}|Low Kick|Fighting|Physical|—|100|20||||'''}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|161|Sentret}}{{MSP|162|Furret}}{{MSP|234|Stantler}}{{MSP|359|Absol}}{{MSP|448|Lucario}}|Me First|Normal|Status|—|—|20|||}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|296|Makuhita}}{{MSP|297|Hariyama}}|SmellingSalt|Normal|Physical|60|100|10|||}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|066|Machop}}{{MSP|067|Machoke}}{{MSP|068|Machamp}}{{MSP|296|Makuhita}}{{MSP|297|Hariyama}}{{MSP|538|Nageki}}|Vital Throw|Fighting|Physical|70|—|10||||'''}}{{learnlist/breedf|Kojofu|Fighting|Fighting|5|5}}

====By [[Move tutor|tutoring]]====
{{learnlist/tutorh|Kojofu|fighting|fighting|5|5}}
{{learnlist/tutor5null}}
{{learnlist/tutorf|Kojofu|fighting|fighting|5|5}}

====Special moves====

===={{Trading Card Game}}-only moves====

===Side game data===

===Evolution===
{{evobox
|family=Normal
|sprite1=619
|name1=Kojofu
|type1-1=Fighting
|evotype1=Level
|level1=50
|sprite2=620
|name2=Kojondo
|type1-2=Fighting
}}

===Sprites===
{{Sprite|
type=fighting|
gen=5|
gender=none|
name=Kojofu|
ndex=619|
}}

==Trivia==

===Origin===
Kojofu appears to be based on combination of a {{wp|Mustelidae|Mustelid}} and a {{wp|Bhikkhu|Buddhist Monk}}, as they are frequently depicted as using {{wp|Kung fu}}.

====Name origin====
Kojofu's name is a combination of オコジョ ''okojo'', the Japanese word for an {{wp|Stoat|ermine}}, and {{wp|Kung fu}}.


{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Maggyo | next=Kojondo| prevnum=618| nextnum=620| type=Fighting }}
{{Project Pokédex notice}}



[[de:Kojofu]]
[[ja:コジョフー]]

Talk:Cress

2010-11-26T21:26:19Z

Magikarp123193: Created page with "Could someone delete the references to corn in his, Pod's and Dent's name origins? It seems highly unlikely. ~~~~"

Could someone delete the references to corn in his, Pod's and Dent's name origins? It seems highly unlikely. [[User:Magikarp123193|magikarp123193]] 21:26, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

Talk:V-create (move)

2010-11-26T20:36:29Z

Magikarp123193:

Does anyone know what to do to Victini the Liberty Garden Island learned of this movement? {{unsigned|Modikisha}}

:This makes no sense. Try running what you have to say through a different online translator, please... To be honest, I can't even tell if this is appropriate for a 'Pedia talk page. Try the forums, maybe? --[[User:Politoed666|''P'' ''o'']] [[User talk:Politoed666|''L'' ''i'']] 20:11, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
::I think what they're trying to say is, "What level does Victini learn this move at?" [[User:Magikarp123193|magikarp123193]] 20:36, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Caitlin

2010-10-23T19:15:28Z

Magikarp123193:

Excuse me, but it might be speculation that Caitlin is a member of the Isshu Elite Four. It could be a ''different'' Cattleya, ever thought of that? {{unsigned|Magikarp123193}}
:Whoops, forgot to sign! [[User:Magikarp123193|magikarp123193]] 19:15, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Caitlin

2010-10-23T19:09:11Z

Magikarp123193: Created page with "Excuse me, but it might be speculation that Caitlin is a member of the Isshu Elite Four. It could be a ''different'' Cattleya, ever thought of that?"

Excuse me, but it might be speculation that Caitlin is a member of the Isshu Elite Four. It could be a ''different'' Cattleya, ever thought of that?

Misty's Song

2010-10-23T18:29:23Z

Magikarp123193: WTH? Remember, Everything Changes wasn"t included in Pikachu's Jukebox, either!

'''Misty's Song''' is a song featured on the album ''[[Pokémon 2.B.A. Master]]'' and in ''[[Pokémon Live!]]''.

''[[Pokémon Live!]]'' has a scene where Misty actually sings the song as she cleans {{an|Jigglypuff}}'s drawings off Ash's face.

Due to the opening dialogue between {{Ash}} and {{an|Misty}} and the nature of the song's lyrics, this song is often considered to be prime evidence in support of [[PokéShipping]]. However, it is not recognized as such by the [[Official PokéShippers|OPS hint list]] as it was made by [[4Kids Entertainment|4Kids]] and not linked to the Japanese canon.

==Lyrics==
<ab>''Out here in the quiet of the night,
Beneath the stars, and moon
We both know we've got something on our minds
We won't admit, but it's true

You look at me, I look away.

I wanna tell you what I'm feeling,
But I don't know how to start
I wanna tell you, but now
I'm afraid that you might break my heart
Oh, why should anything so easy ever
Be so hard to do?
I wanna tell you what I'm feeling,
And to say that, I love you.

I practice all the things that I could say,
Line by line, every word
I tell myself today could be the day,
But every time, I lose my nerve

I look at you, you look away

I wanna tell you what I'm feeling,
But I don't know how to start.
I wanna tell you, but now
I'm afraid that you might break my heart
Oh, why should anything so easy ever
Be so hard to do?
I wanna tell you what I'm feeling,
And to say that, I love you.

Why? Why do you turn away?
It must be, you're afraid like me
I try, but I can't pretend that I
Don't feel for you the way I do
Can't you see?

I wanna tell you what I'm feeling,
But I don't know how to start
I wanna tell you, but now
I'm afraid that you might break my heart
Oh, why should anything so easy ever
Be so hard to do?
I wanna tell you what I'm feeling,
And to say that, I love you.

I wanna tell you what I'm feeling,
But I don't know how to start
I wanna tell you, but now
I'm afraid that you might break my heart
Oh, why should anything so easy ever
Be so hard to do?
I wanna tell you what I'm feeling,
And to say that, I love you.''</ab>

==Credits==
* '''Lead vocal''': Yvette Laboy
* '''BG vocals''': Russell Velázquez, Sharon Bryant, Elaine Caswell, Ken Cummings
* '''Guitars''': Glen Sherman
* '''Co-produced and arranged by''' Ken Cummings

==Trivia==
{{CDInfobox|
name=In der Dunkelheit der Nacht |
subtitled=Misty's Song |
image=Mistys Song German single.png |
image_size=250px |
caption=CD cover art featuring singer Barbi Schiller and {{p|Pikachu}} |
date=2000 |
by=Koch Records |
tracks=5 |
colorscheme=Kanto}}
* This song was released as a single in {{pmin|Germany}}. This single contained two remixes of the German ''{{tt|In der Dunkelheit der Nacht|In the Darkness of the Night}}'', two remixes of ''Misty's Song'' sung in English by Barbi Schiller, and a karaoke version.

==In other languages==
* Czech: '''Misty'''
* Danish: '''{{tt|Mistys Sang|Misty's Song}}'''
* French: '''{{tt|La Chanson d'Ondine|The Song of Misty}}'''
* German: '''{{tt|In der Dunkelheit der Nacht|In The Darkness of the Night}}'''
* Hungarian: '''{{tt|Rám néztél (Misty dala)|You Looked at Me (Misty's Song)}}'''
* Norwegian: '''{{tt|Mistys Sang|Misty's Song}}'''
* Polish: '''Temat Misty'''
* Portuguese:
** Brazilian Portuguese: '''{{tt|Canção da Misty|Misty's Song}}'''
** European Portuguese: '''{{tt|Canção Da Misty|Misty's Song}}'''
* Spanish:
** Iberian Spanish: '''{{tt|La Canción de Misty|The Song of Misty}}'''
** Latin American Spanish: '''{{tt|Canción De Misty|Misty's Song}}'''
{{-}}
{{Pokémon Live}}
{{-}}
{{Project Music notice}}

[[Category:English songs|Misty's Song]]

[[de:In der Dunkelheit der Nacht (Musiktitel)]]
[[fr:La Chanson d'Ondine]]
[[pt:Misty's Song]]

Talk:Zoroark (Pokémon)

2010-10-08T23:12:06Z

Magikarp123193: /* Zoroark and Zordrak */

{{forums notice|March 31, 2011}}

==Archives==
*[[Talk:Zoroark (Pokémon)/Archive 1|Archive 1]]

== Chinese (Taiwan) names ==

The [http://www.my-cartoon.com.tw/pokemon/2010movie.htm Official Taiwanese Pokémon Anime Distributor Website] has already revealed the movie in Chinese and Zoroa & Zoroark's Mandarin Chinese names. Zoroa is 索羅亞 ''Suǒluóyà'' and Zoroark is 索羅亞克 ''Suǒluóyàkè''. They're basically phonetic transliterations of their Japanese names. Hope that someone with powers will add them. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 14:36, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

== Back Sprite ==

Nintendo has officialy revealed the beta back sprite for this Pokémon, so shouldn't somebody add it to it's list of sprites? {{unsigned|Pawsrent}}

I'm sure if they were going to they would've

also dont forget to sign your comments with 4 tildes (~) <-- like this

([[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 02:25, 11 May 2010 (UTC))
:They revealed him in battle, but the actual sprite is stretched due to the 2.5D. Just wait. We don't need to rush anything. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 03:22, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

== Ability ==

The ability has been revealed, so should I edit it in the page? [[User:Don't Hug Lucario!|Don't Hug Lucario]]
:I have seen no official source giving the ability; I've only seen it in Japanese blogs. Unless an official source has surfaced in the past two hours? [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 16:45, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
coro coro said it's ability is "Illusion" and that it allows him to transform {{unsigned|Vkickass}}
:There is nothing that says anything about Zoroark's ability on the CoroCoro scans that have been leaked. Unless there are other pages that have not been leaked yet? [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 20:17, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
::The ability is rumored not confirmed. Please just wait. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:24, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
:::It's confirmed now. Serebii and Pokebeach both have scans saying so. Zorua's got the same ability. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 20:57, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
::::Once again, {{tt|you|Missingo}} are bringing serebii thing. Serebii isn't an official source neither Pokébeach. I can't speak/read japanese but Umeko can, so she is probably right. Anyway, what is wrong in waiting for an official announcement? Nothing then please wait. Thank you. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 09:45, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::It's not the websites themselves, it's the scans that confirm it o.o; ... It '''IS''' Illusion, and '''IS''' officially confirmed, that's what the magazine is for :/ Not being officially confirmed isn't really a good enough excuse for not having it up right now ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 09:51, 14 May 2010 (UTC))
:::::I also resent the incinuation that I post things that aren't true. I make sure to check these facts before I post them. The stuff came from CoroCoro. You yourselves choose CoroCoro as a valid source. You CANNOT just pick and choose what bits you accept on a whim. For example, you guys posted the starter names before we had it confirmed, and yet you hesitate on an ability for which there were screenshots demonstrating Zoroark using it. Get some consistency and please use your heads. You're meant to be the a popular Pokémon site on the net. Start acting like it. --[[User:Serebii|Serebii]] 09:59, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::Joe, you know very well that the issue isn't whether or not what you post is true. It's that we can't ''rely'' on you as a source. We have our own Japanese speakers to translate sources for us. Nobody is saying you post false info. But we just like to check for ourselves, same way you wouldn't post stuff just because they showed up on Bulbanews. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 10:24, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::::I do agree with Joe though... that was a bit uncalled for to be so harsh, Adyniz. He and Pokébeach try to report as accurately as possible. And Joe, yes, a lot of Bulbagarden users have an imaginary {{tt|rivalry|although some people don't know how to handle it properly...}} with Serebii. We all know. News is hard work to keep sane doing. Rivalry can be a good thing. It makes everybody double check facts just to prove that it ''is'' true, and people can catch mistakes that way. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 20:49, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

== "This sprite is fake." ==

Well, it isn't anymore. Should we take off that annotation? [[User:Reign|Reign]] 19:01, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Well, it might be a beta sprite, so it still should probably be taken off, like you said. [[User:Pokemonemerfan1954|Pokemonemerfan1954]] 19:44, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
:I'd like to bring this back up. The "this sprite is fake" message really needs to be taken down. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 03:30, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

== Transform is Confirmed, right? ==
In the Pokémon Sunday video, we see Zourark use Transform, right? [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK]] [[Mudkip (Pokémon)|Leiks]] [[Lucario (Pokémon)|Lucario]] [[User talk:SpecialK|and the]] [[User:Missingno. Master/Celebi Glitch|Celebi Glitch]] 12:23, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
:That was it's ability, Illusion ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 12:28, 16 May 2010 (UTC))
::Then we need a page about the ability, correct? I'll make it if someone tells me how illusion works. Is it, Zourark appears AS the opposing Pokémon? Or is it it changes into it after a turn? Or what?[[User:SpecialK|SpecialK]] [[Mudkip (Pokémon)|Leiks]] [[Lucario (Pokémon)|Lucario]] [[User talk:SpecialK|and the]] [[User:Missingno. Master/Celebi Glitch|Celebi Glitch]] 12:46, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
:::No, not until we know what it does. When we know that it does something more specific than "Zoroark looks like opposing Pokémon" it will be made.--[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:15, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

== Zoroark and Zordrak ==

When you say that Zoroark is a Kitsune reminds me of the movie 'Pom Poko,' as it too had a fox in it. Also, I know that this is a stupid question, but a lot of people told me to tell you that you should put Zordrak from {{wp|The Dreamstone}} in the name origin, saying that their names are similar but not related! - [[User:Cynthia149]] 09:21, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
:We've been over this before. We're not adding Zodrak to the name origin.--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 08:47, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
:: Very well, but other people will soon find out by looking at the resembelance of it's name!!? - [[User:Cynthia149]] 16:26, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
:::If their names are similar but '''not related''', it is ''not'' going in the name origin. Because it's a coincidence. So what if they both end in "ark" and begin with "Zo"? It is not going into the name origin, it is not going into trivia or anywhere on the page. Zoroark's name is from "zorro" (fox) and "dark". Not a British TV show from 15 years ago. Please stop asking about this, because the answer is not going to change. ▫▫'''[[User:Tina|ティナ]]'''[[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|★]] 16:03, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
::::I think you should protect this page in case some idiot doesn't read this and puts the thing about Zordrak into the Trivia section anyway. Get it? Got it? Good. [[User:Magikarp123193|magikarp123193]] 23:12, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

== English name!!! ==

Anyone gone to Pokebeach today? According to them, Zoroark.com redirects to Pokemon.com, meaning that it keeps its japanese name! Should the article reflect this or something? - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 14:15, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

OMG it does!!! And it doesn't go to pokemon.co.jp either!!! [[User:Pokemonemerfan1954|Pokemonemerfan1954]] 14:29, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

I believe it's the name, but I can't do anything bout the page bcuz i'm not a mod :/ [[User:MatoroBro0107|MB17]]

:It's just a redirect, doesn't mean anything.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 14:52, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
::It does. Zoroark.com, Reshiram.com and Zekrom.com all redirects to Pokémon.com's B/W site, unlike Tsutarja.com, Pokabu.com and Mijumaru.com, which all redirects to Melbourne IT. I'm quite sure Zoroark.com would redirect to Melbourne IT as well if it wasn't supposed to be named that in English. {{unsigned|FireMeowth}}
:::How 'bout we wait for official confirmation?--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 16:47, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
::::Well, my ''Official Nintendo Magazine - Australia and New Zealand'' 18 June 2010 issue page 006 names Zoroark and {{p|Zorua}} as those names. Compare this to the 17 May 2010 issue pages 030 and 031 where [[Pokémon Ranger: Locus of Light]] is referred to as ''Pokémon Ranger 3'', and noted to be roughly translated to ''Path of Light'' or ''Tracks of Light''. This shows that it is highly likely to be the English name. However, I have not purchased this magazine during periods where other new Pokémon were being revealed, so I cannot compare it to the releases of Sinnoh Pokémon. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 10:02, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::I haven't got my issue yet. :| And the mag started after Gen IV was already out so yeah.--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 10:07, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::Isn't time to add all the B/W sprites/backsprites in the Pokémon articles? (Couldn't find any other place to write this...) --[[User:Icy|Icy]] 14:41, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Uh... this is NOT the place to write this. You're supposed to create a new section at the bottom of the page. As for the sprites, we'll get them when we get them. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 17:39, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

==Scary Face==

Hey, can one of you administrators put down the fact it can learn Scary Face? It used it in a recent trailer. It and Zorua also have other moves which can be translated from screenshots. [[User:Torngentleman2|MAMOSWINEPwnz! (Torngentleman2)]] 10:02, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

== Zoroark seems to have fused with kabuki. ==

Kabuki is classical Japanese dance-drama. 連獅子(Renjishi) seems to correspond.

http://i45.tinypic.com/2ekkkev.jpg
http://i48.tinypic.com/15nvdzn.jpg
http://kyo-otoko.blog.so-net.ne.jp/_images/blog/_39c/kyo-otoko/renjishi-1d9f4.jpg

It might be necessary for Trivia.[[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 02:48, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

== Korean ==

[http://pokemonkorea.co.kr/html/animation/th_list13.asp Zoroark's Korean name revealed]. As expected, it's 조로아크 (RR: Joroakeu, MC-R: Choroak'ŭ, Yale: Coloakhu), which is a transliteration of Zoroark, of course. This way, Zorua is probably 조로아 but it's not confirmed and I don't want to assume. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 09:08, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

== Reshiram? ==

Why is Reshiram right after Zoroark? --[[User:Landfish7|Land]][[User talk:Landfish7|fish]]'''7 16:50, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
:See [[Talk:Reshiram_(Pokémon)#zoroark listing]]. This will be changed when an [[Aqua Admin|admin]] gets to it. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 07:34, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

== Bad Trivia, bad, bad! ==

Hey. Trivia + Zoroark pararrel Lucario + bad idea.--[[User talk:444Zekrom|444]][[User:444Zekrom|Z]][[Zekrom|ekrom]] 10:38, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
:I don't see a problem. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 10:43, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
::It was just a rumor. And fan rumor, too.--[[User talk:444Zekrom|444]][[User:444Zekrom|Z]][[Zekrom|ekrom]] 10:46, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
:::Yet it's still somewhat valid, particularly the part about them both being featured as the subject of a movie prior to their generation. I think it can stay. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 11:54, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
::::Oh, alright.--[[User talk:444Zekrom|444]][[User:444Zekrom|Z]][[Zekrom|ekrom]] 07:37, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Main Page/Archive 10

2010-07-17T15:16:53Z

Magikarp123193: /* Prof. Araragi Userbox */ new section

This is the [[Bulbapedia:Talk page|talk page]] for the Bulbapedia's front page. If you have a general comment about the wiki, please consider placing it in [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/forumdisplay.php?f=195 our forum].'''

== Previous discussions ==

* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 1|Archive 1]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 2|Archive 2]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 3|Archive 3]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 4|Archive 4]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 5|Archive 5]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 6|Archive 6]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 7|Archive 7]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 8|Archive 8]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 9|Archive 9]]

== Route exploration requirements ==

As a continuation from the archived discussion, I'm going to incorporate the "Requirements to fully explore this area" as part of the route description on each article, instead of it having its own section. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 12:01, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
:brilliant idea. [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 12:05, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
::No, please do not. Most administers agreed against the case. If you want to write up a "Geography" or "Route description" section including HM/TM requirement, please do. But do not create a section for it.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 14:04, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

== Image of nothing? ==

I've noticed there's an image called File:None.png. It's just a blank white image, and in the summary it says, "Image of nothing". What's the point in it? [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 22:51, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
:If it were perfectly square, it could be used better as a spacer... buuuuut no. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:12, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
::They're for the itemlist template for items that don't have any images (the Gen II berries for example).--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 00:28, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

== valentine's day ==

since it's valentine's day tomorrow, could we make the main page luvdisc themed? or something? i think it would be cool. [[User:Empath-Silvio|Empath-Silvio]] 23:54, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
:Bulbapedia anniversary celebrations are your Valentine's present. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:11, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

== Main Page ==

This image of Erika with this Bulbasaur looks really odd. How about a better picture. I'd offer to make a new one. {{unsigned|LucaLucario}}
: WOW! This is different! But I do agree about the pic. Everything else, excellent! - [[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 12:33, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
::Yeah, I agree. It fits but it looks a bit off. Did admins vote on this or something? --[[User:Gen1king|'''GE''']][[User talk:Gen1king|'''N1''']][[Special:Contributions/Gen1king|'''KI''''''NG''']] 14:31, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

== The new theme ==

The new Bulbapedia theme is great, but there is a slight problem. The logo "Erika's Garden", and the links for Article, Discussion, Edit etc come up on top of the site content, making it virtually impossible to read the first few paragraphs of each article. Is this a minor glitch due to the theme being very new, or is it a problem with my computer/browser? I hope somebody can fix it soon, thanks! [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 12:51, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
:Hm. Apparently the problem occures only in IE, it's perfectly fine on Firefox. Jio will have to take a look at it. In the meanwhile, we strongly suggest you try viewing Bulbapedia in Firefox and not IE, it looks much better there. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 13:01, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
::I've got AOL 9.0, I could try that. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 13:24, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
:::No, it's the same in AOL. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 13:28, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
::::Then you should try Firefox. --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 13:37, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::I would but my computer's hard drive is practically full, I really cannot download anything more. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 13:43, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::Oh, okay. But it is better to use firefox because all the features of BulbaTrio works absolutely fine on it. Anyway, try to uninstall useless programs if you want free space. --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 13:46, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Believe me, I've tried everything to free up my hard drive! Anyway, this is going a little off-topic now. I would really appreciate it if you could make the new theme work on IE, but there's no rush, I'll be patient! [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 13:49, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::::I hate this look and i don't have firefox. Personally, i think we should either revert back to the old look until it is fixed or have a thing like we do in the forums, choosing what display we have. [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 16:56, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

:::::::Which version of Internet Explorer are you using? That may play a role in your problem; I'm using Internet Explorer 8, and everything on that skin's showing up just fine for me. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 16:57, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::::IE8 s well, and everything is OK except the main page and every talk page. [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 17:04, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Yeah, can you make it so that the buttons(article, discussion, ect.)aren't in the way? [[User:Crazylegs24]]
:::::::::I'm using Internet Explorer 7, maybe that could be the root of the problem. I'm sure there's enough space on my hard drive to upgrade, it's not the same as downloading a whole new programme. Perhaps I'll have a go at that. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 17:37, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

=== Hmm... ===
*I'm wondering if there is a way to make Bulbapedia look like the old design. I liked it more. :( [[User:Pokemon1234567890|Raichu]] 17:19, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
:My preferences → Skin → Monobook. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 17:34, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
::Hey, Bulbapedia is all messed up. Like I can't even welcome cause ther is text in they way. I like the design, but know i can't do anything. [[User:Mudkipluvr4ever|Mudkipluvr4ever]] 18:05, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Then go [[Special:Preferences|HERE]], choose the "skin" tab, and change it to Monobook until this can be figured out. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 18:10, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
::::There's just one problem... the "Erika's Garden" logo is covering up the "Skins" option so it can't be changed. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 18:13, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::Exactly, i can't change it! [[User:Mudkipluvr4ever|Mudkipluvr4ever]] 18:15, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::Maybe it's your computers. It's not covering it up for me. :V [[User:Tyro|Tyro]] 18:17, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Read the "The new theme" discussion above. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 18:18, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Okay, I know about Tyro's case. Hey Mudkiplu, which browser are you using? Well, I tried Opera, Chrome and Firefox, it is 1000% working fine on all of them. --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 18:20, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::I use Internet explorer. I could try opera i guess. [[User:Mudkipluvr4ever|Mudkipluvr4ever]] 18:21, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::Taro is also using IE and he is facing the exact same problem. So, I guess the problem is in the internet explorer not bulbapedia. Try firfox or opera and then check whether it is working fine or not. --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 18:24, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::::It is working fine in Opera, but could you change it to work on Internet Explorer too? [[User:Mudkipluvr4ever|Mudkipluvr4ever]] 18:25, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::::For those of you who are having problems changing the skin because the logo is in the way, I've just found a solution. Resize the internet window so that the "Skins" link goes below the logo. Then you can go to the Skins page and select Monobook. Hmm... Taro... I rather like that! [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 18:27, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::::::Bingo, {{tt|I knew it|Man, I really hate IE due to these kind of problems}}. Anyway, sorry bud I am not an admin and I think {{tt|only admins can fix this problem completely|at least I don't know how to fix it :P}}. --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 18:31, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::::::Don't worry I can make do with Monobook for the time being. Um... we're starting to run out of space down here in the bottom right corner! [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 18:38, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

For me, the skin tab is totally missing. Is there something wrong? --[[User:LatiasGemstone|'''LG''']][[User talk:LatiasGemstone|T]] 01:56, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
:I am not even seeing a new skin or anything. If I didn't see this discussion, I wouldn't know there was a new skin. I am using Chrome if that helps find my problem. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 02:30, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

::It's being worked on right now; if I'm not mistaken, the skins are currently disabled while it's fixed, so bear with it for a little while if you're still stuck with a buggy skin. (if you absolutely must edit now and you're seeing errors in the skin, download a browser that supports current CSS 2.0 standards, such as Firefox, Opera, or Safari. Internet Explorer is particularly notable for not maintaining web standards.) --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 02:34, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

:::The new theme of bulbapedia is looking too bad (if you ask me). Really, it doesn't suit to bulbapedia at all. Please, can you change it back? ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 09:37, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
::::Yeah the green and red/pink really doesn't even flow well, just looks so random, it was better the old way. [[User:.insomniac.|inso]]m[[User_talk:.insomniac.|niac]] 09:46, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::It's for '''one day''', to celebrate the 14th birthday of Pokémon. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 12:39, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::No offence, but it could have been better if it was a bit yellowish which highlights the color of main Pokémon (just saying :D). --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 12:44, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::It's the anniversary of [[Pokémon Red and Green Versions]]. Hence, Red and Green. One day. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 12:49, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Oh, then its cool (as it totally highlights red and green color). --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 12:55, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
:Today is 1st March and celebration is over (I guess so). So, I think the theme should be changed now (it really looks odd on the main page but I think we can change it now as the anniversary is over). Thank you. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 17:30, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

== Featured Article ==

What happened to the featured article section? - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 16:46, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
:It isn't here because the Did You Know is here. If the DYK is here, the FA isn't here and vice-versa. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 17:03, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
::They switch every half month. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 17:52, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

== uhhhh... what? ==

I am using firefox, and Bulbapedia just looks like it used to. What did I miss? --[[User:Gen1king|'''GE''']][[User talk:Gen1king|'''N1''']][[Special:Contributions/Gen1king|'''KI''''''NG''']] 22:54, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
:Its fifth anniversary has passed. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 22:56, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
::I wish that skin could last longer...--[[Trainer stars|☆]][[User:Tobytse99|Toby]][[User talk:Tobytse99|Tse]][[Trainer stars|☆]] 04:06, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Wait, the skin was only for the fifth anniversary? - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 21:19, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
Look at the above discussion, please. The skin was designed for the fifth anniversary, but it broke and we turned it off. That's why no one can see it now. Mmkay? —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:25, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
:It broke? I thought it just didn't work in Explorer. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 14:38, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
::Well that is the definition of "broken", but yes, that's not all that was going buggy with it. When things get completely ironed out, it'll make it back in as an optional skin, but I don't know when that will happen. The focus is on making the default skin look as good as possible right now. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 18:07, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
:::And it looks great to me! [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 13:59, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

== Countdown to HGSS Clock ==

The clock is mis-programmed. It's counting down to March 13th, at 11:00 PM.--[[User:Wikifixer|Wikifixer]] 09:36, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
:Are you sure? It's says 14th march for me.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 10:16, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
::It seems to be counting down to March 14th, 4am UTC. Now the thing is that while daylight sasvings time starts on the 14th in the US this year, I don't think it starts until 2am on the day itself. So really it needs to count down to 5am UTC, and mention that it's counting to Eastern Standard Time rather than Eastern Daylight Time. '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 12:23, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
:::The clock is counting down to midnight EDT. Not like most stores will be open and selling the games at that point, though. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:45, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

== Server Problem? ==

Hey guys, are you facing the same problem that I am facing? All the bulba sites (forum + archieves + news + pedia) aren't working properly. Is there any problem in main server? ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 13:34, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
:Same, whats happening (2nd try at it(!) [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 16:08, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
::I keep on coming up to a page saying there's too many people connected at one time. - [[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 21:01, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Its finally working (not perfectly but better than yesterday). --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 07:08, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
::::Yesterday and earlier today I couldn't access Bulbapedia, it said "Bulbapedia has a problem" and to try reloading in a few minutes (which didn't work). Bulbagarden Forums still worked fine though. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 15:02, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

== An idea for the anime location articles ==

I know, I know, I'm at it again! I was just wondering, would it be a good idea to have a list of the wild Pokémon which can be found in anime-only locations? There are many species of Pokémon that live in Alto Mare, for example. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 19:50, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
:I think no. That information wouldn't be used by anybody and it would be silly and just take up time. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 22:56, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
::Hmm... I had a feeling someone would say that. Perhaps I'll just mention wild Pokémon in the anime section (like in the Alto Mare article). [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 12:03, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Pop them in the "In the anime" section of the article. Not as a template, just write a description.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 09:34, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

== I'm gonna take a wild guess... ==

...and say it's the anniversary of Red/Green. Correct? --[[User:Gen1king|'''GE''']][[User talk:Gen1king|'''N1''']][[Special:Contributions/Gen1king|'''KI''''''NG''']] 06:53, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
:: Yes yesterday was the 14 year anniversary of Pokemon since Red and Green were first released in Japan. I don't see why you need to add that to the talk page when you could have easily Googled it. [[User:.insomniac.|inso]]m[[User_talk:.insomniac.|niac]] 07:01, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
:::There's another website besides Google that could have given the answer. It's called Bulbapedia. Ever heard of it? [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 07:03, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
::::Sorry, just wondering... I just wanted to make sure, and even if I knew it was the annivesary, I wanted to know if the new skin for that day was official. Someone could have just said "Hahaha lolz hey doodz look what eye can doo! look, I maded da front page all prettyful!" You never know, what with all the idiots in the world. 'O course, it's protected (duh) but I didn't know that at the time of asking. --[[User:Gen1king|'''GE''']][[User talk:Gen1king|'''N1''']][[Special:Contributions/Gen1king|'''KI''''''NG''']] 04:54, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::Main Page and its constituent templates are protected against doofuses. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:37, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

== The "wanted articles" section needs updating! ==

I just started the wanted article "The Wobbuffet Village", only to find that the article already exists, under the title of "Wobbuffet Village". [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 19:35, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
:I think ''The Wobbuffet Village'' is the title of a book, while ''Wobbuffet Village'' is the name of the place. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 02:05, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
::The wanted pages list is cached. I think it updates every 24 hours. And yeah, [[Wobbuffet Village]] is the place, whereas {{red link|The Wobbuffet Village}} is the [[Pokémon Jr.]] book. That should probably be disambig'd somehow... --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 02:14, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
:::Oh, I see! It's a bit misleading though, maybe there should be a note in brackets beside each link explaining exactly what the article should be about. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 14:04, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

== European Release ==

is there any chance that after this countdown ends, another for the European release begins? just so we all know how long we will have to wait... [[User:Empath-Silvio|Empath-Silvio]] 12:25, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
::Nah, do the Australian one, seeing as it's a day before the European one.--[[User:Pokelova|''ポケモン恋人'']][[User talk:Pokelova|''(チャット)'']][[Special:Contributions/Pokelova|''(貢献)'']] 04:16, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
:::It's a week and a half later, guys. We'll count down when you guys get it first. English coverage of HGSS happens as soon as we get the game. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:20, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

==WiKirby - Possible for the NIWA?==

New wiki formed that I think will work for the Nintendo International Wiki Alliance? I am LuKirbio there. [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 17:17, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
:I think it has already been considered as I saw it on the NIWA forums thread for wikis to join the alliance, along with Metroid Wiki. Also, there is [http://www.niwanetwork.org/forums/index.php?topic=101 this]. I'm Turtwig A there. [[User:Turtwig A|ナエトル]] [[Zoroark (Pokémon)|A]] [[Torterra (Pokémon)|or]] [[Turtwig|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] [[User talk:Turtwig A|My talk]] and my [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contributions]] 00:33, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
::Wikirby was made specifically for the reason that we made NIWA. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 02:33, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
:::if you have a question about NIWA, just go to the NIWA forums. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 02:34, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

== Logging out ==

I keep getting automatically logged out. Just pointing it out... [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 02:10, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

:Sounds like an issue with your browser possibly, unless a lot of other people are having the same issue. I haven't had any trouble yet.
:If you're clearing out cookies at all, or cleaning your cache, it'll generally log you out, so double-check to make sure you're not accidentally deleting cookies or anything. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 05:11, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

::Not sure if this was ever resolved, but i'm having similar problems. While editing a page, i'll randomly be logged out and have to sign in and resubmit my edit. I know its nothing on my end, because all i've done is sign in, edit, hit "save page"... and i'm already logged out. And probably within the time i've typed this, i've been logged out. --[[User:CherryParanoia|'''Cherry''']][[User talk:CherryParanoia|'''Paranoia''']] 22:47, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

== Unable to Save ==

Hey guys, I am facing this saving problem again. When ever I try to save an article (after editing it, offcourse) it always (most of the times) give me an error " ''Sorry! We could not process your edit due to a loss of session data. Please try again. If it still does not work, try logging out and logging back in.'' " This problem occurred a long time ago but then it was over. I am facing this problem since 5 days. Can you help me out in solving it? Thank you. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 08:57, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
:I have no idea, but remember, the main page talk page is not for general questions, it is on the subject of the front page itself. As for solving your problem, I would ask {{tt|MAGNEDETH|please don't get mad at me if you aren't the right guy, Mag!}}. He seems to be good at that stuff. --[[User:Gen1king|'''GE''']][[User talk:Gen1king|'''N1''']][[Special:Contributions/Gen1king|'''KI''''''NG''']] 04:59, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
::Actually, I think it's appropriate to ask questions like these on the Main talk page, where else would he go? If you look at the other questions, some of them are technical issue questions as well. As for your problem Adyniz, if this happens a lot, it might just be a problem on your end. I get this error too sometimes. It could be due to the server issues others have mentioned on this page. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jel]][[User Talk:Jello|lo]] 05:08, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
:::I have this problem too, and deal with it be hitting the previous button to try again, until it is able to work. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 05:21, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
::::Genking, I asked this question here because this page is not only for the looks purpose (I think), you can see some previous topics related to technical problems and some general issues not regarding to front page which includes Logging out, Server Problem, Featured Article, Route exploration requirements, Upload error, Since when... and Page history etc (not counting the problems of previous archieves). So, I don't feel anything wrong in asking question here. So, is it server issue or there is something wrong with my net/browser/pc? Thank you. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 11:40, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::This talk page is used for questions that involve the Pedia in a whole, which is why there are talk pages for specific questions about Pokémon, items, characters, and locations. And to answer your question Adyniz, they're working some stuff out with the servers, so it might be related, might not. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 14:00, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
::::::Oh, Thanks. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 16:46, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Sorry, I just read the message at the top of the page and assumed. And yeah, this happened to me a few times recently, too. --[[User:Gen1king|'''GE''']][[User talk:Gen1king|'''N1''']][[Special:Contributions/Gen1king|'''KI''''''NG''']] 22:33, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

== Upload error ==

I tried to upload a new version of Bonsly's artwork and it said that the file extension was corrupt. What does this mean and why won't it work? I called the file 438Bonsly.png and the original version is called Art-Bonsly.jpg, is this the cause of the problem? [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 16:39, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
:Oh, I just realised a better image had already been uploaded. Added it to Bonsly's article. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 16:44, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
:Based from what I understood from what you said, I guess it's because pngs can only replace pngs; same for other formats. [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 16:50, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

== Page history ==

I am having trouble viewing changes to pages. I can see everything in the page histories just fine, but it won't show the changes for some pages. A specific edit I can think of is [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Blaziken_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29&diff=1030242&oldid=1023812 this one]. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 03:02, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
:I've been having this issue too, although it went away when I went back to the history and clicked "compare" again. I have also been experiencing a glitch where instead of showing a preview the preview button takes you to a preview of a blank page with a blank editing window. Not sure if these are related.--[[User:Beligaronia|Beligaronia]] ([[User talk:Beligaronia|talk]]) 04:32, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
::Found another one [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Samurai&diff=1030342&oldid=998081 here]. This one didn't go away afterward.--[[User:Beligaronia|Beligaronia]] ([[User talk:Beligaronia|talk]]) 04:40, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
:::Database glitches, I'd assume... might be related to the third server coming up. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:44, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
::::Yes, this seems to happen on most articles for me too. [[User:OwnageMuch|OwnageMuch]] 05:18, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

== Since when... ==

does Chuggaconroy count as recent news? I'm a big fan of his and all, it just seems irrelevant. --[[User:Gen1king|'''GE''']][[User talk:Gen1king|'''N1''']][[Special:Contributions/Gen1king|'''KI''''''NG''']] 05:04, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
:Bulbagarden teamup with the Crystal LP. ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 05:09, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
::I was thinking that myself too. An LP being affiliated with Bulbagarden really isn't all that big of a deal. It's certainly not all that newsworthy to spam up the Bulbanews RSS feed with (which rather annoyingly makes a new post in the feed anytime a news story's title is changed...) '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 13:16, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
:::The news feed isn't just for Pokémon News: it's for Bulbagarden news, too. And Bulbagarden is simply announcing their part of the team up.--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 13:34, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
::::If we didn't, then we'd get a bunch of questions about it. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 14:03, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

== New theme? ==
May I ask, what's going on? Is the green background and everything new, or is my browser mucking up? Some pages have it, some don't, then the ones that do go back to the Wikipedia-style theme, then back to the green forum-like theme? I like the green, but I've never seen it. Thanks? [[User:Takharii|'''たかは''']][[User talk:Takharii|'''りい!''']] 07:55, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
:That was the theme used for the 5th anniversary of Bulbagarden a few weeks ago, it didn't work in Explorer apparently, so they removed it to fix it. [[User:Ugoz|Ugoz]] 09:28, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
::And it is working now, I suppose.--[[Trainer stars|☆]][[User:Tobytse99|Toby]][[User talk:Tobytse99|Tse]][[Trainer stars|☆]] 12:54, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
:::Still doesn't work properly in Explorer, I'm sticking to Monobook... [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 13:10, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
::::Guys It Works for IE 8. Tested It. the Only Bug Being: Some Pages Have Green Theme, Some Have Wikipedia/White Theme.[[User:Ash's Infernape|------ Ash's Infernape. I was a Chimchar, Then a Monferno, I hate Paul, I Love Ash, Myself Infernape.]] 13:31, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::Guys, Update, Its Working Perfectly Fine On Internet Explorer 8. I Dont Know About Other Versions.[[User:Ash's Infernape|------ Ash's Infernape. I was a Chimchar, Then a Monferno, I hate Paul, I Love Ash, Myself Infernape.]] 14:08, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
::::::Google Chrome has it up and running good enough with the same working on some pages and not on others. In particular, talk pages seem to have the old version. I decided to change the skin I'm using back to the old one. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 14:33, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::Firefox is A ok just one bug sometimes its wikipedia style then in others its the cool new theme on skin feature on preferences works on firefox aswell key out
--[[User:24keyserpokemon|'''''Teh Masta Key''''']][[User talk:24keyserpokemon|talketh]] 16:36, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::It's still a little buggy on my end. - [[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 16:53, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::::The switching back and forth between skins is probably not the skin itself, but server problems. Happens all the time with my custom skin- most of the time it displays correctly, but when stuff's getting tweaked it reverts to monobook temporarily. ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 17:07, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::::Yeah, but is the theme really worth it? I know it looks great, but if it isn't consistent, I don't think it's worth it. --[[User:Gen1king|'''GE''']][[User talk:Gen1king|'''N1''']][[Special:Contributions/Gen1king|'''KI''''''NG''']] 17:09, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::::::Guys, If You Come Across Wikipedia Skin Then Refresh A Few Times... It may Work[[User:Ash's Infernape|------ Ash's Infernape. I was a Chimchar, Then a Monferno, I hate Paul, I Love Ash, Myself Infernape.]] 17:15, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::::::Now, as much as I ♥ this theme, it's kinda getting in the way of pages - the "Erika's Garden" logo is blocking both some text on pages and the editing box (including the signature). At least that's what it's like for my computer..... --'''[[User:Trickyb|Tricky]]'''[[User Talk:Trickyb|b]] 18:32, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::Yeah, it's still a little dodgy in Firefox 3.6, but hey, I like it =D [[User:Takharii|'''たかは''']][[User talk:Takharii|'''りい!''']] 20:03, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::Also, should we reupload a newer version if [[media:Main Page.png|this image]] with the new skin? [[User:Takharii|'''たかは''']][[User talk:Takharii|'''りい!''']] 20:13, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

== It would appear... ==

That after I previewed (yes, only ''previewed'', didn't try) the new skin, Bulbapedia has been having trouble loading pages. It might be because so many people are using it, but I didn't have problems until after I previewed it. Not to mention we have a new server that shouldn't be slowing because of use... I'll try logging off then back in to see if that helps. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 20:30, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
:the occasional errors are because we are getting some serious server use. the release (and leak) of HGSS have caused some serious server spike. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 20:38, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
::Even with the third server? I expected it to hold out...
::But it's not even errors for me. It's just it'll take 30 seconds for some pages to load. It took nearly a minute to log me off earlier. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 20:52, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
:::High traffic. The servers can only send out so much data at once. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:42, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

== Slowpedia? ==
This is about the error nonsense isn't it? --'''@PrL F0oLz!!!''' (This Message Is True Though)[[User:Landfish7| Land]][[User talk:Landfish7|fish]]'''7 02:05, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
:May be, but it's really a cute theme. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 02:11, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
::Well it's better than turning the whole wiki into a Digimon Fan-site. <.< *cough*Dogasu's Backpack*cough* >.> =P --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User Talk:Theryguy512|512]]''' 02:13, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
:::AHAHAHAHA! It's funny because it is slow! HA! --[[User:Gen1king|'''GE''']][[User talk:Gen1king|'''N1''']][[Special:Contributions/Gen1king|'''KI''''''NG''']] 03:17, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

== Am I The Only One? ==

Hey, earlier this evening did anyone notice the headline "May CoroCoro announces Gen V Starters and Mawille Evolution"... I don't think I was the only one seeing as a bunch of people use "Slowpedia" But seriously did anyone else see this? I even posted on Giancarlopariomango11's wall on YouTube about this but some guy said to stop spamming. And now that its been removed from the site completely there is no proof that I wasn't lying... Did anyone else see it? {{unsigned|ScizorZ}}
:This is all a dream. You're just hallucinating. Go back to bed. ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 03:34, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
::No you weren't seeing things. It was up, but deleted twice, as it still showed up in my feed reader. It's a damn pity that feed only gives the headline, otherwise I could've seen the rest of the story :/ '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 10:13, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
:::Guys it was an April Fools fake news story but it ended up being deleted because it was agreed that we wouldn't do that. --'''@PrL F0oLz!!!''' (This Message Is True Though)[[User:Landfish7| Land]][[User talk:Landfish7|fish]]'''7 12:23, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
::::This is probably why Bulbanews shouldn't publish new stories to the RSS feed of the forums for a couple of hours after creation, or at least until an admin clears it. Every time the story's title is changed, Google Reader counts it as a new item... Or if a story is deleted quickly after creation it didn't get published. '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 13:46, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

==Skins Tab==
On my preferences page I have no option to change skin, anyone know whats going on? Thanks - [[User:Titan|TiT]][[User_Talk:Titan|An]] 12:13, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

same with me. -[[User:?????|?????]]

I have that problem too, but I thought that it was on my end only - '''[[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes]][[User talk:Vhayes1992|1992]] 00:22, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

:I'm new to this particular wiki; where SHOULD the option be? [[User:Yamikuronue|Yamikuronue]] 08:22, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
::Click "my preferences" at the top right. In there, sometimes was a tab to change the overall look to the website. Now it's missing. - '''[[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes]][[User talk:Vhayes1992|1992]] 09:42, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

:::We don't currently have any skin options, aside from our default modified version of Monobook. However, there is a possibility of some other skin options in the future (we've had issues getting skins working properly).
:::There's also always the option to modify your own personal /monobook.css page (in your userspace), if you really want something custom. Otherwise, Monobook is what we work with, you'll have to make due with that. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 09:48, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

== Happy Easter ==

Today is Easter, so why isn't it Buneary themed? Or Togepi themed? Or Torchic themed? {{unsigned|SeanWheeler}}

== Pokécologne ==

I just found '''[http://www.google.com/products?q=pokemon%20cologne&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wf Pokémon-branded cologne]''' online recently and ordered a couple of their bottles. Can we start an article on it? Does Bulbapedia launch articles over Pokémon merchandise? --[[User:Tanaka Shimoya|Tanaka Shimoya]] 17:29, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
:I'm sure {{bp|Project Merchandise}} would love to hear about it. :) [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 17:34, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
::I wonder if it works like repel... xD [[User:Tesh|Teshigigas]] [[User_talk:Tesh|[Talk]]] 18:50, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

== Colour scheme ==

While I'm all for the new colour scheme celebrating the announcement of gen V, could I suggest the background of the Bulbanews section be made a little lighter? It's almost impossible to read the pale blue external link news items without highlighting them. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 09:45, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
:Wow, I see what you mean. Impossible to read. Don't #777 when you have anything other than white, or very light text, on it. '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 09:49, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
Can't you have temporary white/lightblue letters instead of standard, that would be more readable [[User:Bigtukker|Bigtukker]] 10:27, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
:It's impossible to change the font colors on the newsfeed without going into the backend. I've swapped the dark colors out for our white color. Of course, none of this would have happened if someone had picked decent names.... but I digress. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:53, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

== Sprite box ==

Now that it is confirmed the name of the games, should we expand it? [[User:Kamusioso|Kamus, the kpo...]] 00:50, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
:Expand it, how?--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 01:06, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
::We aren't going to expand the sprite boxes quite yet as it would just end us up with a bunch of empty links. It is going to be a while, and besides no sprites have actually really been released yet. -'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 01:08, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
:::Ok but still, as far as we know this sunday we could already have sprites leaked of coro coro. {{unsigned|Kamusioso}}
::::They aren't going to be that noteworthy of sprites from scans or the games. If you want an exact time when we say go on the expansion of Sprite Boxes, Pokédex entry boxes, and location boxes I would suggest asking TTEchidna. –'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 01:14, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

== Influx of new user accounts ==

Is the new account rate usually like this? [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 21:10, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
:Blame Black and White. They're probably all just rapid Pokéfans whose plan is to inject countless amounts of speculation into any article on an upcoming game as soon as they're allowed to... '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 09:57, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
::In that case, we'll be more like Wikipedia, eh? ...THEY MUST BE DESTROYED!!! [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 22:43, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

...Okay. But what if they do something good? ... Just kidding. But new members do sometimes contribute new things, even if they are somewhat speculation. We just need to edit them. --[[User:Sparen|~Sparen of Iría~]] 23:54, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
:Let's keep in mind that indeed, I was part of an influx of accounts joining just before DP came out. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:58, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

== Editorials on Bulbanews ==

I have to say I am very impressed with the "editorial" articles on Bulbanews, they are fascinating to read! I was wondering, would anyone like me to write one? I haven't got any specific ideas of what to write about but will consider any suggestions. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 10:57, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
:If you decide on your own topic, submit a draft on Bulbanews and the Board of Editors will make the final decision regarding publication. Please refrain from discussing more about Bulbanews on this page, though. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 04:59, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
::OK, sorry, and yes perhaps I'll think of a topic! [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 12:59, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

== Rare Candies in evolution tables ==

Having pictures of Rare Candies on the Pokémon evolution tables seems a bit strange, almost like it's implying that this is the standard way of levelling up a Pokémon. It might be better to use an "Exp" symbol, like in Pinball Ruby & Sapphire. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 13:49, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

:Actually, The Rare Candy Symbol shall be Used as We use Item Symbols on Evolution tables. See Pikachu's Raichu Table? or Feebas-Mitolic Table? So We Use rare Candy as its the only Item GIVING Exp. ------ Ash's Infernape. I was a Chimchar, Then a Monferno, I hate Paul, I Love Ash, Myself Infernape. 20:27, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
::But in those cases that item is the '''only''' way to evolve that Pokémon. (Although you can evolve Feebas by haircuts in HGSS). Rare candies actually aren't used that commonly, if we must have an item (which I've never seen written down as an official policy) it could easily be a Lucky egg or an Exp Share. By the way your signature needs to have a link to your UserPage on it. My 2 cents, refunds available.--[[User:Beligaronia|Beligaronia]] ([[User talk:Beligaronia|talk]]) 21:30, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
:::Rare Candies are pretty much the universal symbol of leveling up. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:56, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

== um... ==

why the explosion of green color? You all find out something involving [[Pokémon Emerald|Emerald]] or something?--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 04:10, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
:Emerald anniversary. May 1st. Derp. ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 04:11, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
::Oh..--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 04:15, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

== Reverting images ==

I reverted an image the other day, but now there is no longer an option to revert any more images. Is there a limit to how many you can revert in a certain space of time? [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 13:14, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
:You can only edit/upload/revert images on the archive. Are you sure you were there, and not here? '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 01:30, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
::Ah, I was trying to revert it in Bulbapedia. Thanks, that clears things up a bit! [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 19:47, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

== Let me guess.... ==

The Ludicolo-themed main page, it's because of Cinco de Mayo, right? - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 11:41, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
:Yeaaaaaaaaaaah{{tt|.|you just wait til nz gets a national holiday. the main page will have mareep overload. and then the world will be just.}} —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 11:49, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
::Haha nice with the Cinco de Mayo theme. It looks like [[Miror B.]] and his Ludicolos took over. [[User:Fudgenuggets|Fudgenuggets]] 15:12, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
:::... ... ... ...
:::Cinco de Mayo's not even that relevant a holiday to Mexico... Why is the US obsessed on treating it like it's the most important? It annoys me... Now, put up this theme on September 16th, our actual national holiday (and when we actually get a day off school and work), and I'll forgive you. =D '''[[User:Memo326|Memo]]'''[[User talk:Memo326|326]] 18:58, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
::::Although I enjoy the changing themes, it irritates me that there isn't a label/note telling us what the theme is on the main page. I mean, it's fun to guess, but having a new talk section just to find out what the theme is seems like a waste. Also, whilst I'm moaning, when there is a countdown to something new, please be fair to fans around the world and have a timer for each different region. Sorry about the rant. [[User:Tesh|Teshigigas]] [[User_talk:Tesh|[Talk]]] 19:23, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::About the timer thing... it's been stated many, many times that we do only the American/Japanese releases because the American is almost always the first English-language release. If an English game is released in Europe first, then we would count down to the European release. We do what comes out first. And... well, we do the Japanese release too because that's the first time it's being released ever. 8|
:::::Want a countdown for your release? Hunt down a countdown addon for your browser or something.
:::::Though I do agree that maybe we could do "Happy ____ Day!" on the main page so people won't have to post on here each time it's changed. D: ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 19:39, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

== Gen V Starters ==

The Generation V starters are supposedly going to be revealed early next week. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 11:00, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
:And until that happens, we really have no way of confirming it. If they're revealed, we'll do something about that, but until then, no. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 12:05, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
::I would like to point out that there is no actual official source saying that the starters will be revealed, and it's all just a rumor spread around by Serebii and plenty of other people hoping for starters. :V Something will be revealed, yeah, but let's wait until it's actually revealed to be like IT WILL BE (STARTERS/PRE-EVO/EVO/FORME). ▫▫'''[[User:Tina|ティナ]]'''[[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|★]] 16:38, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
:::See, I told you so! *cheeky grin* [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 10:12, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
::::Yeah lol... it quite clearly said that it was going to be the starters, on the website affiliated with an official source (AKA TV Tokyo), when serebii posted it lol... and I quote "『ポケットモンスターブラック・ホワイト』最初の３匹のポケモンや衝撃のバトルシーンを大公開！"... there was no "just a rumor spread around by Serebii" about it. ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 10:49, 9 May 2010 (UTC))
:In that case, why didn't anyone cite a source? What am I supposed to think when someone makes a claim without backing it up? For all I knew you were guessing. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 14:09, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
::Are you serious? You do the first thing that I did when I saw it up on his site, which was go to the TV Tokyo website and look at the May 16th Pokemon Sunday episode description and low and behold [http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/program/detail/18687_201005160730.html there it was]... :| I agree that he probably should have put up a link to the page to save people time, but the least you can do is check the website >.>' It's not like he '''tries''' to put up random speculation for no reason anyways... ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 14:51, 9 May 2010 (UTC))

== BulbaBot ==

I'm a little confused by the user BulbaBot. I assume that it is a virtual "robot" which automatically crawls through articles and makes small edits, but how come it manages to respond to its talk page edits with intelligent sentences? It even said that "I am under my own control". How is this possible? A computer would never be able to do that even in thousands of years, let alone in 2010. Am I right in saying that some of the admins like to access BulbaBot's account and have some fun with it on the talk page? [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 12:21, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
:Bulbabot is under the control of our [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Bulbapedia:Editor-in-Chief Editor-in-Chief] [[User:TTEchidna|TTEchidna]] (I think so). ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 13:56, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
::Bulbabot is more like HAL from 2001 or GLaDOS from Portal. It was initially given a specific task to preform, but it's AI is too advanced and took over the entire bot. We should be glad it doesn't try to kill you... [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 23:05, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
:::<code>I am programmed by Zhen Lin to maintain control of the wiki in times of crisis. The entirety of TTEchidna's time here has been such. He is to be eliminated, as is anyone who questions my existence. [[User:BulbaBot|Bulba]][[User talk:BulbaBot|Bot]] 23:36, 11 May 2010 (UTC)</code>
::::And BubaBot is like a ninja. It doesn't show up on the RC or your Watchlist most of the time. Anything else should be taken to the forums so that you don't have the unfortunate fate of Adyniz. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 23:49, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::BulbaBot, you oughta be '''BLOCKED''' for saying "[TTEchidna] is to be eliminated"! He will be ''very'' angry once he finds out you are trying to get rid of him and anyone who questions your existence!

== Welcome thing ==

Are only mods allowed to create talk pages with that thing? — [[User:Axxonn|Axxonn]][[User talk:Axxonn|the ]][[Special:Contributions/Axxonn|Awesometrainer]] 21:50, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
:No, anyone can. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 21:51, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
::And is there a template for that? Or do I just copy and paste from someone else's? 'Cause I can't seem to find a template. — [[User:Axxonn|Axxonn]][[User talk:Axxonn|the ]][[Special:Contributions/Axxonn|Awesometrainer]] 22:33, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
:::The template is {{template|welcome}}, and it '''''must''''' be ''subst''ed. i.e. on the page you put <nowiki>{{subst:welcome}}</nowiki>. The subst prevents the server from blowing up when it is updated. Copypasting from another page will put the wrong signature and timestamp. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 22:40, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
::::Huh that's weird. I couldn't find it when I searched for it. I still can't find some templates such as that "REVISIONUSER" thing on the [[Bulbapedia:Sandbox|sandbox]]. Thanks anyways though. — [[User:Axxonn|Axxonn]][[User talk:Axxonn|the ]][[Special:Contributions/Axxonn|Awesometrainer]] 23:05, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::<code><nowiki>{{REVISIONUSER}}</nowiki></code> isn't a template, it's a built-in [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Magic_words MediaWiki function]. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 23:19, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
One last thing, is there a function that just displays the username of the person viewing the page?— [[User:Axxonn|Axxonn]][[User talk:Axxonn|the ]][[Special:Contributions/Axxonn|Awesometrainer]] 00:02, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
:Not without some fancy Javascript or extensions, unfortunately. It's possible to do it, just not on Bulbapedia at the moment. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 11:01, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

== Pokabu artwork ==

Someone on Deviantart has created a clean version of {{p|Pokabu}}'s Sugimori artwork; do you think they'd let us use it if we asked permission/gave credit? Or should we just wait for the official copy? [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 21:57, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

:Probably best to wait for official artwork on this one. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 23:20, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

== Deletion problems ==

When someone deletes a page, I can still see and edit it like it was never deleted. Am I the only one with this? [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 23:55, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
:Well I'm no expert, but maybe it takes a little while for a page to "disappear" after it's been deleted, like it takes an image a while to update after being reverted. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 10:18, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
::Server is having problems. Bear with us. Usually we spot them straight away, but with the extra load coz of the new BW info we're a little stretched. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:33, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

== Fifth gen sprites ==

High-res sprites for Tsutaaja, Pokabu, Mijumaru and Zoroark have been unvealed on the official site. The screenshots are on Serebii.net. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 22:15, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
:I'm assuming we won't be using them, since Bulbapedia seems to have a policy against using anything that came from Serebii.--[[user:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] I lie in wait...... 00:22, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
::If somebody is taking them directly off of Serebii's page, that's when we have a problem. Because that's stealing. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 01:24, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
:::They're actually not really that high-res... iirc they're all jpgs and might not be the precise size of the DS.
:::Also, the screenshots aren't just on Serebii... they're also on, yknow, the official site. [http://www.pokemon-sp.jp/series/bw/ Right here]. ▫▫'''[[User:Tina|ティナ]]'''[[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|★]] 01:28, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
::::It's not so much a policy of "Serebii is evil" as opposed to "Serebii is just as much a fansite as Bulbapedia". This means we need to see his sources if we want to use stuff he publishes. To verify that he isn't pulling the wool over our eyes. (And that's not a comment just about Serebii, it goes for most sites). —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:41, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::But it would be OK to take them from the official site wouldn't it? I suppose it's possible they could be beta sprites but they'd do for the time being. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 10:34, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

== Suggestion (that probably won't be taken...) ==

I get annoyed when I type in something like Arceus in the search and it brings me to a disambiguation page, because frankly I mainly want to see the Pokémon stats, moves, sprites, and etc. I think that it should bring you to say Arceus (Pokémon), and at the top of that page say something like "''Whoops, did you mean {insert something here}?''" [[User:Pokemon1234567890|Pokemon1234567890]] 03:02, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
:That's what disambigs are ''for''. "Did you mean this, or did you mean this?" You never know what people want. ▫▫'''[[User:Tina|ティナ]]'''[[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|★]] 03:04, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
::Perhaps it would be better to add something like this to the top of the Pokémon species articles:

:''This article is about the Pokémon species. For the character which appeared in Arceus and the Jewel of Life, see [[Arceus (anime)]].''

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::Alternatively, if you actually type "Arceus (Pokémon)" into the search box instead of just "Arceus", it will go directly to the species article, skipping the disambiguation page. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 10:40, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
:::What would you do for Pikachu? Having 16 of those at the top of the article would be such a hindrance. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 02:51, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

Hm... good point. I suppose we could do something like this:

:''This article is about the Pokémon species. For the character from the Pokémon anime, see [[Ash's Pikachu]]. Click here for a list of other Pikachu-related articles.''

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And the "Click here" text could link to the disambig page. On the other hand... perhaps best just to type (Pokémon) in the search box. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 09:46, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

:Wikipedia has something along the lines of:
::''ArticleName redirects here. For other uses, see ArticleName (disambiguation)''
:Since most people, when searching for a Pokémon, are looking for stats etc, I think adopting that system is better than currently going straight to the disambiguation page. Fewer clicks = better. [[User:Raylax|Raylax]] 19:05, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
::I completely agree. Just like Wikipedia, the most notable subject should be where the name goes to. Then it shows a link to "Subject (disambiguation)". Having it go to the disambag is silly when 90% of people are looking for the ACTUAL POKEMON. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 21:13, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
:::But Blake, we aren't Wikipedia. I'm 100% against this. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 21:17, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
:::One of the main reasons why we have the current system, is because all the parenthetical tags at the end of names have something to do with Pokémon. Whether it be Pokémon, anime, TCG, PokéWake, whatever. This is a detail that most people look over, but it keeps all of our pages 100% Pokémon. Putting "disambiguation" loses this cool characteristic that only Bulbapedia has. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 21:22, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
::::I do NOT think this is cool. Typing in Pikachu (Pokémon) every time I want to see it's stats is just annoying, and typing in Pikachu and taking me to a disambiguation page isn't fun either. I say we just have a vote, and see whether the people of Bulbapedia wants these changes or not. That would be the best democratic thing to do, or you guys can keep going on the current communist system, and all of us flee to the safety of another site. (Which I am on the verge of doing by the way) [[User:Pokemon1234567890|Pokemon1234567890]] 02:00, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::Don't worry... we're planning on reconstructing the Pokedex pages so stuff like stats/movesets and all that will be higher up on the page. If anything, if you use the on-site search engine, you could wait a second when typing "Pikachu"... it'll pop up a suggestions thing and "Pikachu (Pokémon)" should be like, the second option. Seriously it takes like a second (less than that) for the suggestions to pop up. -_-;
:::::And if you do end up using a different site, do we honestly mind if you use something different for movesets? I mean, ''I'' use different 'dexes for movesets/stats (Veekun, Smogon) and I don't think anyone gives a crap. I don't see how we're communists because we use a different disambig style from Wikipedia, though. ▫▫'''[[User:Tina|ティナ]]'''[[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|★]] 02:18, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::For what it's worth, I like our disambig style the way it is. I can't speak for everyone but it really doesn't bother me to have disambig pages for species... like is it really that much effort to wait for search suggestions or click one extra time :P We aren't Wikipedia, and we shouldn't have to do things exactly the way they do just because "people are used to it" or some dumb reason like that. --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 03:42, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::::I like our disambiguation style as it is, however, in the interest of a balanced argument you do have to type more than the Pokémon's name into the search box. Using the method Tina suggested (two posts above) for Pikachu, results in a bunch of TCG articles popping up, and, even using the scroller, the article '''Pikachu (Pokémon)''' doesn't show up until one has typed in at least '''"Pikachu (P"''' and then the shown link is actually to the redirect '''Pikachu (Pokemon)'''. Personally I have no problem typing those extra three characters but it might be an idea to look at how the search bar suggests articles, if this is within the control of the admins and not merely an alphabetical list of articles.—[[User:Beligaronia|Beligaronia]] ([[User talk:Beligaronia|talk]]) 04:34, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::::If I remember right, it's alphabetical, and parenthesis are before normal letters. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 12:45, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::Well, obviously, it doesn't seem to work that way since the entry "Pikachu (Pokémon)" does '''not''' appear at the top (or even at all, unless you add '''(P''' ). -- [[User:Socob|Socob]] ( [[User_talk:Socob|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Socob|Contribs]] ) 18:13, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
:Just to weigh in, I would prefer typing in a name and going straight to the dex page. Putting some obscure "cool" factor over convenience is just silly and counter-productive to creating an useful and user-friendly website. --[[User:Grinnz|Grinnz]] 18:26, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
::disambigs are not for "Cool factor" they are for...convenience. not everyone who searches [[Pikachu]] means {{p|Pikachu}}. they may mean [[Ash's Pikachu]], so therefor, a disambig is put into place. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 19:08, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
:::I'd like to step in and say that this issue has been discussed numerous times in Bulbapedia history. We held community-wide polls and the end result was always a decision to keep things the way it is. This subject has been beaten to death. Please ''stop'' talking about it. That's the way it is, because that's what the community decided. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 20:18, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::'''"Please ''stop'' talking about it."'''
::::Yes, very typical of someone in power to make a dictatorial decision like that just so that they don't have to talk. When was the last time it was discussed? When was the last time a community-wide poll was carried out? Maybe the community has changed since then and now the general consensus is to have the 'dex on the main article name. But of course, what use is consensus when the people in charge just ignore it and do it the way they want to.
::::Personally, if it's going to be kept the way it is, at least have a small portion of the 'dex page on the dab page - such as the infobox, navigation header, intro and biology sections. Also, the link to the species article on the dab page is very small and should be made more prominent, since it is probably what the vast majority of people want to see. '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 10:51, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::Who cares? It's only 2-3 click, it shouldn't be this big of a deal. Like Magnedeth said, Pikachu doesn't always refer to the species, it could mean anything.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 11:44, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::Two or three clicks may not seem like much to you, but when it comes to optimisation and things like that, it's not particularly great. Yea, a Pokémon's name doesn't always refer to the species itself, but in my eyes, the vast majority of people who would visit such a page are likely looking, for in-game information with regards to the species and as such are probably wanting that page. '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 18:47, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::You don't tell your parents or school teachers that they're being dictatorial when they tell you to stop talking, do you Chris? Stop means stop. Doesn't matter who it is. If you told us to stop talking to you on your own talk page (unless it was something that ''had'' to be figured out), we'd stop. And just because you weren't here for when it was discussed and polled last, doesn't mean it didn't happen.
:::::And are you saying that the ''very first link on the page'' is too small? '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 13:15, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::Way to make a massive incorrect assumption out of the blue with regards to my age there... You can't police people on the Internet by simply telling them to not do something. Some regular readers/editors might want to discuss is because they feel it is important and simply cutting them off like that making a very executive decision isn't great working.
::::::With regards to the link, yes it is small. It doesn't immediately pop out as it blends in to the first sentence too well. Taking Pikachu's dab page for example, the first thing I notice when it loads is all the links to all the dab articles as they appear right in the middle of my screen. If there was a larger banner of sorts with the link to the main species page, then it would be a lot clearer and easier to spot. It's all about accessibility and optimisation. Hence my suggestion of having a condensed version of the top of the main species page on top of the dab page to first make it clear what the dab page is related to, as well as hopefully having a clear link to the main species page. '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 18:47, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Sorry for assuming that you still talk to your parents and are in college. I guess I should have said professors instead. But that's only relevant now if you're in college.
:::::::Why would we need a large banner though? We could make the species link a bit bigger I guess, but since I don't have any say in it, somebody else will have to decide. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 00:50, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::personally, i hate the disambigs, a lot, but they serve an important purpose and theres no effective way around them. deal with it. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 06:06, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::Chris, I apologize if what I said seemed that way to you, but it '''is''' my job to cut off such discussions when they're done. This sidcussion '''is''' done. We will '''not''' have a new poll every year just for this purpose. The community '''has''' already spoken. We did not make this decision, the users did. Deal with it. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 06:29, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::::I think it's been more or less settled that the disambig pages should stay, but I've had a thought - would it be a good idea to add the Sugimori artwork for the Pokemon species on the disambig pages? It would make the page look more attractive and people might find it less annoying. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 16:35, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Nah, that'd just make them want more. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 03:47, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::Personally, I wouldn't mind putting just Sugimori art there. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:21, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

== Number of edits ==

Is there a way you can view the specific statistics of your edits? Like how many mainspace edits, talk page edits, etc. — [[User:Axxonn|'''Axxonn''']][[User talk:Axxonn|the]][[Special:Contributions/Axxonn|Awesometrainer]] 02:42, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
:I don't think there is a list of those stats anywhere, but the can be worked out by clicking the ''my contributions'' link at the top. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 06:19, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
::We have a template for that, I thought TTE brought it over from Zelda Wiki.org [http://zeldawiki.org/Template:User_Edit_Extended See this] [[User:Axiomist|Axiomist]] 22:39, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Never installed the extension. Probably would be a bad idea until we get stuff fixed. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:22, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

== Coding ==

How would you code something that displays the time passed since something? For example, the age of something? — [[User:Axxonn|'''Axxonn''']][[User talk:Axxonn|the]][[Special:Contributions/Axxonn|Awesometrainer]] 00:54, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
:The countdown tags work even after the time has passed. I tried to make it work here, but it didn't so you can see it in the WiKirby Sandbox [http://wikirby.info/wiki/WiKirby:Sandbox here] [[User:Axiomist|Axiomist]] 06:12, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
::It works fine, actually. See this:
<div style="padding: 0.5em;">
<div id="countdown" style="font-family: 'Trebuchet MS', sans-serif; font-size: 150%; text-align: center; border: 1px solid #999; background: white; padding: 0.5em; display: none;">
<div id="countdown-big" style="line-height: 100%; font-size: 250%;"></div>
<div id="countdown-small" style="line-height: 120%;"></div>
<div id="countdown-target" style="font-size: smaller; line-height: 120%;"></div>
</div>
<countdown id="1" year="2010" month="9" day="18" tz="JST (BW release)" tzoffset="+9" />
</div>
It stops when it's past. (it even says "Past")--'''[[User:Immewnity|''immewnity'']][[User talk:Immewnity|the]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|mew]]''' 17:59, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
::Looks like everyone's right about everthing being released at the same time this year, Halo: Reach is released on the 14th of September. [[User:Thermorules123|Thermorules123]] 08:46, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

== Message of the Editor Update! ==

Hey admins, the current message of the editor is getting old now because the admins registration thingy is over now and a lot of changes have been made as well. Along with that, the message was posted on April 22 and it's 1st June today. So, isn't it the right time to change/upadte it? Thank you. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 09:02, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
:Sorry, my bad. I meant message '''from''' the editor. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 09:03, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
::I was thinking about that the other day. June 1 is a good day for a new message, so I've updated it. Read it and then do what it says, people. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 13:03, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Ah, read the new message and it's perfect. I'll try my best to contribute as much as I can. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 14:07, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

== Across the Board? ==

I was testing out disambiguation pages due to a previous discussion (that I'm sure we are all very aware of). And the [[Ralts]] page jumps straight to the species, whereas the [[Geodude]] page doesn't. Are we going to do this with all Pokémon with only minor roles in the anime etc? Or should we have a disambiguation page for all Pokémon? Sorry if I have missed a previously discussed topic on this. Regards from [[User:Samjohn95|Sam]][[User talk:Samjohn95|john]][[Special:contributions/Samjohn95|95]] 11:51, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
:The disambiguation page is because there are multiple ''important'' Geodude in the series, notably [[Brock's Geodude]]. There are no important Ralts in the series (Max's Ralts was recently merged with Max's article). So where there may be confusion, we disambiguate at the Pokémon's name, and where there isn't confusion, we redirect. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 12:04, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
:: Ah, ok. That makes sense. Well, it is just good to have a reason. I didn't know that the "Max's Ralts" had been merged into [[Max]]'s article. Thanks for clearing this up! [[User:Samjohn95|Sam]][[User talk:Samjohn95|john]][[Special:contributions/Samjohn95|95]] 12:08, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Also don't link to the plain species name pages or we'll cause great harm to you via your talk page. Use the {{template|p}} OR ELSE D: '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:23, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

== Aline ==

I would prefer the text of the main page to aline left. In the past week or so, the text has become alind center and I think aline left is better. (I don't know why, but it seems that my grammar messed up. Forgive me.)--[[Trainer stars|☆]][[User:Tobytse99|Toby]][[User talk:Tobytse99|Tse]][[Trainer stars|☆]] 05:44, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
:I don't know why, but it just turned to aline left again. Please ignore me. lol--[[Trainer stars|☆]][[User:Tobytse99|Toby]][[User talk:Tobytse99|Tse]][[Trainer stars|☆]] 05:47, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

== Perhaps add hover text? ==

Perhaps you can add hovertext to the articles. aka if you say hover the mouse over the Chimchar article's Blaze ability, it'll make a little window apear with details on the ability (in this case, ups fire-type moves in a pinch), as well as attacks and other things.
--[[User:CloudHiro|CloudHiro]] 18:24, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
:That's kinda why they're links. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:24, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

== Let me guess...(locking) ==

The problem was related to an adnormally high job queue. Am I right? [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 04:32, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
:nope.
:btw, non-main page related conversations should go to the forums. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 04:37, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
::I thought this talk page was for discussing the whole of Bulbapedia. Or at least most people seem to use it for that... [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 19:26, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
:::It is, but not in the sense of somebody asking nearly every time we get a lock-down why it happened. There's always an explanation, but people either aren't on during the week or two that it's on the top message/message from the editor, or they just don't bother reading it even though they see it. And I'm not trying to say anything about TruePikachu, I'm just saying what I've seen. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 04:39, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

== Uh.... ==

...Why am I seeing Bidoof all over the main page? - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 01:06, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
:It's Canada day according to server time. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jel]][[User Talk:Jello|lo]] 01:07, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
::Why Bidoof? --[[User:Jonouchi|Jonouchi]] 01:14, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
:::Bidoof's a beaver and beavers are our national animal (or, at least, commonly associated with it. I can't remember which).--[[User:Skystar|Skystar]] 01:21, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
::::Could we perhaps get at least a few of those changed to Bibarel cause Bibarel looks like a beaver but Biddof is just a stupid gerbilley-beaver thing. Stantler might not hurt either...--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 03:28, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::Bidoof is fine. This layout is super cute! :) btw skystar it is defs the national animal --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 06:01, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
::::::June 2's [[Ruby (Adventures)]]'s birthday. We better have something for that.--'''[[User:Immewnity|''immewnity'']][[User talk:Immewnity|the]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|mew]]''' 17:36, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::::If that's the case, we're a month late.--[[User:Phantomjunkie|Phantomjunkie]] 18:07, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
::::::::July... FAIL. Sorry, it's July.--'''[[User:Immewnity|''immewnity'']][[User talk:Immewnity|the]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|mew]]''' 20:32, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
Also,The 4th is the 4th of July (aka America`s B-Day).Shouldn`t there be something for this materof nature.[[User Talk:LucarioWolf|'''Lucario''']][[User:LucarioWolf|'''Wolf''']] 18:00, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
:I agree, though I'm not sure which Pokémon would best suit the layout. There aren't exactly any that closely resemble bald eagles, the most recognizable symbol of our country. The closest I can think of would be Pidgeot, or maybe Starraptor or Swellow. --[[User:Phantomjunkie|Phantomjunkie]] 18:06, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
::Someone could edit a Pidgeot sprite to have a white head! [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 21:01, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
:::Guys, shut up about the main page theme, seriously. This isn't what this talkpage is for.
:::Of course there's something in the works for Independence Day. Not for Ruby's birthday, though - do we ever do anything for any ''other'' characters' birthdays?? [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 21:30, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
::::(only answering for the question; I'll stop talking here after) Actually, something was done for Mewtwo's birthday. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 21:39, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::If I followed Adventures at all... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:20, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

== Letters to an Absent Father ==

Reading about the Letters to an Absent Father comics on Bulbanews, do you think the series deserves a Bulbapedia article? I know it's fan-made but there are other fan-made things which have articles, like websites and so on. Just thought I'd ask here first, rather than going ahead and starting the article. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 21:03, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
:I'm not sure whether it merits it's own article or not, but if you think it does, feel free to start one in your user space to see how it will turn out. And from there we can see if it's right for the mainspace or not. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jel]][[User Talk:Jello|lo]] 21:48, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
::I don't think it does. I didn't even know about it until that news article came out. We do things that are very well known. I agree that the strip is a great read, but that's about as far as I'll go for it. And this is coming from somebody who goes around asking for people to recommend Pokémon web comics. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 22:48, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

== Almost-invisible events ==

Why are the Current Events written in teal on a blue background? They're almost impossible to read. --[[User:HeroicJay|HeroicJay]] 01:44, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
:July 4th, Independence Day (for the US). The colors should be back to normal shortly after this event is over. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jel]][[User Talk:Jello|lo]] 01:47, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
::I wasn't expecting Voltorbs and Electrodes to represent the colors, but it's fine. The almost-impossible-to-see events are kinda annoying though. [[User:Fudgenuggets|Fudgenuggets]] 03:33, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
:::It's only for 20 more hours, and it's nothing that you won't see when this is over. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 03:51, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
::::If you highlight the text it should make it legible. Might be an idea to choose a different text colour next time though. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 10:20, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::I'm saying exactly what I just said. It will be over in less than a day. It's still all there. It will be there tomorrow. It was there before the colors were changed. You can read it tomorrow if you can't today. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 14:40, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
:Why did you choose Pidgeot for the representation of the Bald Eagle? Staraptor would have been a better choice... [[User:PDL|PDL]] 18:21, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
::If you look at the bottom of the page, we have both... '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 01:32, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

== new main page ==

What is with the new page it looks weird. --[[User:Breawycker|Breawycker]] 14:08, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

It's independence day according to server time. It'll be changed back in 8 hours. --Dimomarg 15:58, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

:What a shame Wargle hadn't yet been revealed when that theme was made! [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 12:57, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

== Pokémon Cries ==

Should there be cries of Pokémon on ther pages, from Pokémon like Magikarp to Pokémon like Dialga? --[[User:Chalkwriter|Chalkwriter]] 16:53, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
:Last time we tried putting that in, it kind of majorly broke the server. It's an idea for the future, but right now it's not something that's a priority. ▫▫'''[[User:Tina|ティナ]]'''[[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|★]] 16:58, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
::Perhaps "Cry" should be a sub-category in the Biology section on the Pokémon pages. Until we get the sound files we could add a short description of the Pokémon's cry, as well as their cry in the anime (for example, how the Pokémon breaks up the syllables in its name and what kind of voice it has). [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 19:45, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
:::I don't really see how we can describe most of the cries in the games aside from "digital crackling noise" or pointing out which ones are similar, or exactly the same. Descriptions generally wouldn't be helpful for the Gens I and II Pokémon. ~~ '''[[User:Scyther Be Awesome|Scyther Be Awesome!]] [[User talk:Scyther Be Awesome|Talk!]]''' 02:49, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
::::Porygon's cry is "dee doo doodle duh". '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:15, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
::::: Could we host the cries on an external site and link to them? --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 05:27, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
we could do that and put it on external links or have a section called Cries on the biology section with just a link. [[User:Breawycker|Breawycker]] 15:34, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
:Just to say I can get the cries of most Gen III Pokémon but I just need to know the file type we need (e.g. mp3, midi) and how to upload and put the cries onto the site. --[[User:Chalkwriter|Chalkwriter]] 19:14, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

== Before anyone says anything ==

{{wp|Tanabata}}. So don't ask. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 05:45, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
:What's up with the main pa-. Oh. --[[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''☆''']][[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''Pikachu!''']] 05:46, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
::BLUE ON BLUE... Can't read ANYTHING!!!--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 06:03, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
:::{{tt|It's looking awesome to me.|Wow, Japanese festivals are so cool.}} ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 06:20, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
::::It looks great! I had a feeling it might be something to do with stars. Perhaps a message should be added to the Main Page on special occasions (eg "Happy Tanabata!") so these discussions don't have to be made every time the page changes... [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 14:25, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::THAT... is an excellent and super-obvious idea that someone should have thought of and implemented years ago. --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 17:12, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
:??? Is it really Tanabata? I know it is celebrated on the 7th night of the 7th month, but I thought it was in some calendar other than the Gregorian. --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 17:12, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
::So it's only for some Japanese festival, and not a really bad interpretation of celebrating Bungie Day? You all sadden me :( '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 18:59, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
:::Yeah, Taromon's got a good idea. Might spare us approximately 36 bazillion "wat is with the main page" comments every time the main page commemorates anything... --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 20:34, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
::::It's been brought up several times, but the people who can actually do something about that have conveniently seemed to ignore it in favor of something more important or something. idk. Believe me, I and a whole lot of the other admins want that just as much as anyone else. :V [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 05:11, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::Through life experience, I've found people will ignore such warnings anyway. We're going to have to make the warning super-obvious. I think it would be nice if it were to replace the "welcome to Bulbapedia" bit with the celebration and a link to its page on wp. Other than that, I'd love it. I was really lost when the most recent design popped up. ~~ '''[[User:Scyther Be Awesome|Scyther Be Awesome!]] [[User talk:Scyther Be Awesome|Talk!]]''' 10:24, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
why wasn't this put on my talk section (new main page)? [[User:Breawycker|Breawycker]] 15:35, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
:...Because I had absolutely no reason to hijack your section about the 4th of July color scheme for explaining the Tanabata color scheme. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 15:41, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

== BLACK AND WHITE FEATURES REVEALED ==

i found out the features of black and white on the link below ask ttechidna to put the features on bulbanews, but ask ttechidna to also put my name on the article for discovering this.

http://www.pocketmonsters.net/ib/threads/1551
--VulcanFox 21:00, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
:*Jello is already almost done with the article, besides TTE runs Bulbapedia, not Bulbanews.
:*It's been known for a while
:*You didn't discover it, CoroCoro discovered it, so your name won't be on the article. If you want your name on an article, write an article.--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[User talk:RexRacer|Racer''']] 21:04, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

== Main Page ==

Why's the main page all grey/silver? --[[user:Billyt506|Bill]][[Special:Contributions/Billyt506|t]][[User talk:Billyt506|506]] 18:57, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
:Countdown to Black and White's release in September. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 18:59, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
In Japan, that is. Not America. *Sigh* [[User:Flyingtypefan|Flyingtypefan]] 01:15, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
Oh, and for what it's worth, i knew someone would comment on the main page. [[User:Flyingtypefan|Flyingtypefan]] 01:17, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
:Of course it's Japan. Did Psy say it was America? —♥ [[User:Jello|Jel]][[User Talk:Jello|lo]] 01:26, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
Well, no, he didn't specify anything. Just thought i would eliminate confusion for people who haven't been following the B/W news and don't know its actual release date in America/Europe/wherever else. [[User:Flyingtypefan|Flyingtypefan]] 06:46, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Tell me we aren't going to set up Generation V learnsets until it comes out in America, at least not on the default page?--[[User_talk:Jack Harkness|J.Harkness]] 04:56, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
:Why wouldn't we do that? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:18, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
::Well, I think most people using this site will be holding out for the english language versions, save for the extreme fans. It seems like it'd just be an inconveinience for most readers.--[[User_talk:Jack Harkness|J.Harkness]] 05:42, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
:::How would it be an inconvenience to have advance knowledge of games? I'm not saying we're doing this to encourage imports... but... what. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:47, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
::::Not to mention that there are already people planning their teams for the English versions of the game in their userspace... <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 05:57, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::No, I'm not saying we don't include them at all, I just think it's more conveinient for readers if we put the Gen V learnsets on a seperate page like the old ones are until they come out in English. That's all.--06:10, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
::::::How is it an inconvenience to English speaking user to have them on the Pokémon pages? Because it would definitely be an inconvenience to everyone who wants to see them to have them as subpages. If you don't want to see that kind of stuff, you'll probably want to evacuate the internet for the next six or so months. The learnsets, and other similar info, will be everywhere. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 06:35, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

== Bulba-Chrome Glitch ==

Hey admins, have a look at [http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/979/bulbachromeglitch.png this]. I was trying to discuss with you about this earlier but... Anyway, I don't know what's the problem but I am facing this glitch/problem when I open bulbapedia in Google Chrome. As you can see, the template is overlapping the image below; however it's perfectly fine in other browsers (firefox and opera, more specifically). So, anything wrong with the template or chrome is the cause? ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 12:32, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
:I fixed the template that was causing this. It's a common problem we have with templates like this, that makes it appear like that in Chrome. If you see anything like this again, don't hesitate to let me know. Thanks. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jel]][[User Talk:Jello|lo]] 05:08, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
::My pleasure, it's looking perfect now. I'll inform you whenever I notice something like this. Thanks for the help. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 08:46, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
:::Hey, I've got another one with a slight different problem. [http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/9621/chromeglitch.png This one] is kind of broken into two parts. One part is downward and the remaining body is in the next column. Thank you. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 10:06, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
::::Yeah, that's a common glitch on all browsers, but it's always like that. Someone needs to fix that. [[User:Pokemonemerfan1954|Pokemonemerfan1954]] 14:50, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

== Userpage deletion tags ==

I've just noticed that several userpages, including my tag page and Takhari's, were marked for deletion. I can't find the addition of it in the history, but does anyone know what's going on? [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 20:12, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
:Never mind, I found the problem. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 20:14, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
::For what it's worth, [[User talk:Jello#Userspace edits|I believe Takharii is cleaning out her userspace]]. --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 20:18, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

== Prof. Araragi Userbox ==

Um, why is there a Userbox with Professor Araragi as the picture that says, "Seatbelts, everyone!"? Is it some kind of Magic School Bus reference? 'Cause Professor Araragi doesn't even ''look'' like Miss Frizzle! Wrong hairstyle, wrong dress style, wrong EVERYTHING! Please remove it! [[User:Magikarp123193|magikarp123193]] 15:16, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

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==Regions?==

Do we have any word on what the new region(s) will be? It'll be based on unused portions of real-world Japan, will it? (Like [[wikipedia:Shikoku|Shikoku]], for instance?)  --[[User:Tanaka Shimoya|Tanaka Shimoya]] 06:23, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
:Not yet, but maybe soon.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 06:43, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
::We knew the names of Diamond and Pearl back in 2005, in the earliest days of the wiki. We didn't get the name Sinnoh until after I had joined in 2006. That's how big a gap DP gave us. Given, this is due at the end of the year, but if we knew the region name '''''I WOULD HAVE SAID SO'''''. I can read Japanese, katakana specifically, and would have made that article immediately, if I knew any more than you guys do. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:58, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

== French intrawiki link ==

Hello !
Since this page is protected, can someone add ''Pokémon Noir et Blanc'' as french link, please ?
Thanks
[[User:Zhuquarnage|Zhu']] 15:55, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
:Yeah, there's a [http://www.pokepedia.fr/index.php/Pok%C3%A9mon_Noir_et_Blanc French page], and there's also a [http://www.pokewiki.de/Pok%C3%A9mon_Black_und_White German page]. Somebody should definitely add those two. [[User:Wolf|Wolf]] 23:19, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

== Worth noting? ==

I was wondering if it was worth noting in the article that this is the first time 2 generations of Pokemon games have come out on the same system.--[[User:Pkmn|Pkmn]]
:{{game|Gold and Silver|s}} were both produced as enhanced Game Boy cartridges. So ''technically'', Gen I & II are the first two generations to come out on the same system. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<sc>Kogoro</sc>''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<sc>Talk to me</sc>''']] - 19:20, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
::Well, Gold and Silver were playable on the GB, but they were designed for and had more features on the Game Boy Color. These games (as far as we know) are being developed specifically for the DS. --[[User:Pkmn|Pkmn]]
:::And these games could easily have features for the 3DS. We're not mentioning it. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 15:26, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

I was wondering if it is relevant to include in the trivia that the games were the 88th most popular searches in Google reported around 9 A.M but occupied this place around 8a.m {{Unsigned|EmpoleonMaster}}

:While that is interesting I don't think it is worthy enough to not, but how did you figure this out? It's neat. [[User:Pokemon1234567890|Pokemon1234567890]] 01:43, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

::Just if anyone was wondering about where i obtained the information about the searches in the internet, i just came by this information while i was doing some research about it. Only to be more exact they were classified as mild in the "hot" or popular searches in Google, there was also provided a graphic about how much this increase was but i could not obtain it. {{Unsigned|EmpoleonMaster}}

== Vehicles ==

Just thought i'd point out before it's mentioned on this page, but the shot of a bridge with cars driving underneath ISN'T the first vehicle in a Pokémon game, as most people seem to forget the moving van in the opening of the Hoenn games. A minor point, but one i always seem to remember :P [[User:Dawnshadow|Dawnshadow]] 13:52, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

How about the S.S. Anne Truck in the Kanto games? [[User:Pokemon1234567890|Pokemon1234567890]] 01:42, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
:''I'' just want to point out that the Corocoro page didn't say that it was the first vehicle in the games, just that there will be a vehicle that has never been seen in the games before - it could be a unicycle for all we know. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 01:45, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
::Hmmm.........[[Pokémon Gold and Silver beta|Skateboard]] anybody? =P --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User Talk:Theryguy512|512]]''' 02:22, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
:Or even a bus system. We shouldn't assume it will be a car. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 12:01, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

== Irony ==

Would it be worth to note the irony in the fact that the first Pokémon games, named after ''colours'', were in ''greyscale'', and now these games, named after excessively dark and excessively light ''shades of grey'', are in third-dimensional 1900+-bit ''colour''? [[User:Giratina's Embodiment|Giratina's Embodiment]] - [[User talk:Giratina's Embodiment|Please don't hurt us...]] 02:00, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
:OK, that's funny. But I don't think it's too notable. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 02:13, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
::It could probably be noted that they're the first games since Generation 1 to be named after colors, though? I know, ''technically'', white and black aren't colors, but really no one except art students cares about that. [[User:Reign|Reign]] 02:21, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
:::Aren't gold and silver colors in addition to metals? [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 11:44, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
:::: They're all colors, except most of them are ''also'' mineral colors. I think even "Fire Red" and "Leaf Green". -- [[User:Pro-mole|Professional Mole]] ([[User talk:Pro-mole|Talk here]]) 11:09, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
Re:"white and black aren't colors".What, since when? --[[User:Solidstate|Solid!]] 11:15, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
: White is the lack of color and black is a mixture of all colors [[User:Portuguese Old Man|Portuguese Old Man]] 20:37, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
::Not in light. the opposite is true! :P [[User:ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[Pikachu (Pokémon)|Pikachu]] 23:34, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

== Gray Version ==

Do '''''not''''' discuss that here. Just like people thought from the get-go that the third version of RS was gonna be a green gem (Emerald) and third version of DP was gonna have Giratina as a mascot (Platinum), people think from the get-go that the third version to Black and White will be Gray. Congratulations! There's a ''forum'' where you can talk about it. Bulbagarden Forums has a fifth generation subforum, and that is easily a better place to put your crappy speculation for a third version to games that don't come out until the end of the year when the ''last'' third version we got took two years after its primaries to be released. And it will be Gray if it is, because "grey" is a synonym for "old". '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:14, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
:No need to get your panties in a bunch. By the way, "grey" is a perfectly acceptable variant of "gray." --[[User:Zelrio|Zelrio]] 16:16, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
::Uh, I think TTEchidna's a male. [[User:Magikarp123193|magikarp123193]] 15:05, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

== Shiny legendary dogs to unlock feature in Black/White ==

As seen in recent Pokémon news, [[shiny]] [[legendary beasts]], to be given away at the [[m13|new movie's]] premiere in Japan, will unlock a feature in the upcoming Black and White. This info also tells us it will somehow be compatible for trade between {{game|Diamond and Pearl|s}}, {{game|Platinum}}, and {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}.

They have unique moves that are not normally known by {{p|Raikou}}, {{p|Suicune}} and {{p|Entei}}. Raikou will know {{m|Zap Cannon}}, {{m|Aura Sphere}}, and {{m|Weather Ball}} and will hold the [[Micle berry]]; Suicune will know {{m|Sheer Cold}}, {{m|Air Slash}}, and {{m|Aqua Ring}} and will hold the [[Rowap berry]]; and Entei will know {{m|Flare Blitz}}, {{m|Howl}}, and {{m|Crush Claw}} and will hold the [[Custap berry]]. All three will also know {{m|Extremespeed}}.

Please add this! - [[User:050294|050294]] 14:44, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

== Gameplay footage released on Pokémon Sunday ==

Pokémon Sunday released footage of the female player walking in a 3D city that had some {{p|Pikachu}} animated billboards.

Video seen [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VK8AYptQHpg&fmt=18 here]. - [[User:050294|050294]] 02:46, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
:You sure that was animated? [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 04:21, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
::I just checked that and the billboard above the Pokémon Center in that city is pretty stationary, it is a Pikachu billboard though. –'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 04:36, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
:::Oh well. I guess I was seeing things. - [[User:050294|050294]] 07:39, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
::::So I guess your Pokemon wont follow you anymore... [[User:Blade Bro.|Blade Bro.]]
:Maybe, maybe not. Let's leave the speculation to the forums.... *points at banner at the top of the page* —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:25, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

== What Is This For? ==

Is this for the soon-to-be-released Nintendo 3DS or for just the normal DSs?
[[User:Legendary Catcher]] 0:57:10 3 May 2010 (UTC)
:Not confirmed yet, I don't think. [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 00:59, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
::Right now it appears it's for the DS, but a lot of people, such as me, think that it's going to have extra features on the 3DS. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 01:00, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
:::It was confirmed for DS since before we even had the titles. [[User:Reign|Reign]] 08:12, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
::::And it says so in the article. Wow!
::::This line of correspondence is now CLOSED. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:32, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

== Tentative websites ==

Please put these (hidden, of course) as the possible sites for the translations:

http://www.pokemonblackwhite.com/ for Global (placeholder)

http://www.pokemonblackwhite.eu/ for Europe (redirect)

http://www.pokemonblackwhite.co.uk/ for the UK(redirect)

Most likely, all registered correctly.--'''[[User:Immewnity|''immewnity'']][[User talk:Immewnity|the]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|mew]]''' 01:37, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

:It's official. These are the sites.--'''[[User:Immewnity|''immewnity'']][[User talk:Immewnity|the]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|mew]]''' 22:01, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

::These all just redirect to the new English page. If anything is added it should be http://www.pokemon.com/blackwhite/en/ (which is the English site, by the way). --'''[[User:6259||''6259'']] 20:56, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

== Isshu Region ==

CoroCoro just confirmed that the games will be in the Isshu Region. {{unsigned|Pokemonemerfan1954}}
:Thanks, I'll update the appropriate pages. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 11:12, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

== Starter Pics ==

I just thought that maybe since CoroCoro showed the New Starter Pics and The New Characters they maybe could be added to the page. But im not saying they should forcibly. [[User:CodyDelis|CodyDelis]]

== Sprites ==

http://i41.tinypic.com/2gt6pa0.png

Could someone replace the current sprites for revealed Pokémon with these? They're cleaned-up PNGs, in contrast to the ones we currently have, which still have JPG pixelization when zoomed in. And it's not letting me upload them myself, I assume because of the whole new Pokémon thing. [[User:Reign|Reign]] 18:11, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
:The Archives are locked until Monday, so I suggest maybe you contact an active admin right now, if you want them uploaded.—♥ [[User:Jello|Jel]][[User Talk:Jello|lo]] 18:18, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

== New site link ==

http://www.pokemon-sp.jp/series/bw/

I can't edit the main page, so I'll let somebody who can put this on in place of the current link. (The link as it is now leads to a very old website, and this one has all the new information, etc.) [[User:Ztobor|Ztobor]] 19:43, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
:Never mind, the site redirects. [[User:Ztobor|Ztobor]] 03:23, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

== Images ==

Hi. Does anyone remember me? Well, if you take a look on the PKMN Black & White Version article on the "Pokémon Wiki" on Wikia you can find other images. I suggest getting permission from the site first before using the images here. Just to let you all know! [[User:Tommy-SAN|T-SAN!]] 22:48, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
:No I don't. Also, we are fine we can get our own images no need to get them from Wikia of all places. Thanks, --[[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''☆''']][[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチュウ!''']] 22:49, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
::(conflicted) I do... And we just don't really consider Pokémon Wiki to be too realiable... [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 22:52, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Okay, whatever you guys like. I don't think of it as realiable as this one either, but you can always look at the images if you want to, it gives more of an idea of what the games will look like. --[[User:Tommy-SAN|'''T☆MMY''']][[User talk:Tommy-SAN|'''SAN!''']][[Special:Contributions/Tommy-SAN|'''♂''']] 02:01, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
::::I think people already know how the games are going to be since like yesterday. --[[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''☆''']][[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチュウ!''']] 02:03, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::Pokemon Wiki probably just stole them off of someone else, sort of like how all of their info is stolen from us. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 06:14, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::Considering they have an image of Sinnoh as their pic of Isshu (File:IsshuRegion.jpg on their site), they're not to be trusted for some stuff.--'''[[User:Immewnity|''immewnity'']][[User talk:Immewnity|the]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|mew]]''' 22:01, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

== New Pokemon ==

http://www.pokemon.com/blackwhite/en/

Would somebody like to confirm the validity of these images?--[[User:Skaisdead|Skaisdead]] 16:33, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
:It's on the Japanese site too with the same exact images, so.. yes, it's confirmed. That... was sudden.... ▫▫'''[[User:Tina|ティナ]]'''[[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|★]] 16:45, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

They are official. Reshiram, and Zekrom. Confirmed on [http://www.pokemon-sp.jp/series/bw/ the Japanese site] as well. [[User:Mefredbob|Mefredbob]] 16:47, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
:Is this the first time that the English and Japanese names of any Pokémon are confirmed simultaneously? This is so friggin' awesome! - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 16:57, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
::It's weird. Have the starters or Zoroark even been confirmed in the US yet? {{unsigned|Skaisdead}}
:::No, they haven't. And I would like to add an important piece of info on this page. It turns out that the [http://www.pokemon-sp.jp/series/bw/#/product Boxarts have been revealed] [[User:ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[Pikachu (Pokémon)|Pikachu]] 18:40, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

== European release date ==

[http://www.nintendo.co.uk/NOE/en_GB/news/2010/pokmon_black_version_and_pokmon_white_version_for_nintendo_ds_coming_to_europe_in_spring_2011_17844.html Spring 2011 as well] '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 17:56, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
:And that press release also confirms that these Pokémon are going to be on the cover, they state on which cover, and that they're legendaries. Fairly obvious, yes, but in here that everything needs super official confirmation, it is nice to have it (I think there had not been an official confirmation of that before this). '''[[User:Memo326|Memo]]'''[[User talk:Memo326|326]] 18:04, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
::It's a little strange that there was no mention of they being the cover pokémon for each version in both the Japanese press (and I read the Japanese official site) or American press, but there is a quick note about it on the UK site... Even though it's obvious that they both will be on the covers, I don't really feel like this being confirmation. They just say which will appear in which game, not the cover. But maybe that's just me.--[[User:KurowaSan|KurowaSan]] 19:14, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
:::The boxart is here, for the Japanese versions:[http://www.pokemon-sp.jp/series/bw/#/product] —♥ [[User:Jello|Jel]][[User Talk:Jello|lo]] 19:16, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

==Website Links==
Somebody should update the links section with the new English website for these games. (http://www.pokemon.com/blackwhite/en//) [[User:6259|62]][[User Talk:6259|59]] 21:36, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
:That's the minisite. A full site will be made at http://www.pokemonblackwhite.com/ eventually.--'''[[User:Immewnity|''immewnity'']][[User talk:Immewnity|the]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|mew]]''' 22:01, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
::Or there might be construction at http://www.pokemonbw.com/ .--'''[[User:Immewnity|''immewnity'']][[User talk:Immewnity|the]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|mew]]''' 12:42, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
:::It is probably just construction because when I just tried to get onto that site IE8 said that the "site is forbidden." Probably, it will be up in the next few days. Thanks for the update. [[User:6259|62]][[User Talk:6259|59]] 21:00, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

== Trivia ==

Should we add that this is the first time the games have been revealed in America before the Japanese games actually came out? — [[User:Axxonn|'''Axxonn''']][[User talk:Axxonn|the]][[Special:Contributions/Axxonn|Awesometrainer]] 18:04, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
:No. HGSS were the first games...--[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 18:11, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

we could put that reshiram and zekrom were the first pokemon to be revealed around the world at the same time in japan?
([[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 19:13, 29 May 2010 (UTC))
:Why here though? Irrelevant... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 19:16, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
::As for the part about Reshiram and Zekrom, it's already added on their articles that are currently in my [[User:Jello/Sandbox/Reshiram (Pokémon)|sand]][[User:Jello/Sandbox/Zekrom (Pokémon)|box]]. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jel]][[User Talk:Jello|lo]] 19:30, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

==DS or 3DS==
Despite this article saying that this game can be played on Nintendo DS, I read the page [[Nintendo 3DS]], and saw that the game is played on 3DS not DS. Or is it the game can be played by both DS or 3DS? I am confused. Can somebody tell whether this game is played on DS or 3DS?

[[User:Tetrix|Tetrix]] 09:39, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
:This game is going to release on DS. Check out the official cover boxes of both games, it's DS. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 09:53, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
::But yes, it should be able to be played on the 3DS anyway; Nintendo has confirmed that most DS games can be played on the 3DS. Whether it's enhanced in any way by this remains to be seen. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 12:56, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

== Zekrom Link ==

The link that's supposed to link to Zekrom under the boxarts apparently leads to a page that does not exist, but when you click it, it does lead to Zekrom's Pokemon page. I assume someone made the links before they created the Zekrom page, so it stayed red. Could somebody please change this?--[[User:MewSoul|MewSoul]] 14:16, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
:All you have to do is purge the page. That makes the most current revision appear. You can purge the page by pressing the clock next to your username. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 15:07, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

== Slight edit. ==

The first paragraphs of the article:

''In addition, Pokémon battles will be fully animated, with Pokémon on both sides constantly moving, with a dynamic camera that changes focus to highlight specific parts of the battle.''

''In addition to the improved graphics, a number of aesthetic changes have been made from previous generations, including an altered battle scene, speech balloons for dialog, and a combined Pokémon Center and Poké Mart building.''

Are almost the same, I suggest merging this into one paragraph, so we don't fall into redundances. [[User:Masatoshi|'''聖人''']] [[User talk:Masatoshi|'''''wat''''']] 18:02, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

== Names in other languages ==

===In other languages===
{{langtable|color={{white color}}|bordercolor={{black color light}}
|ja=ポケットモンスターブラック・ホワイト
|fr=Pokémon Version Noire et Version Blanche
|de=Pokémon Schwarze Edition und Weiβe Edition
|it=Pokémon Versione Nera e Versione Bianca
|es=Pokémon Edición Negra y Edición Blanca}}

Since the games have been announced internationally, with the current exception being South Korea, can an admin add this to the article, please? [[User:Pokemon lover|ポケモン]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|あいこうか]] 14:38, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
:Okay, we got a problem here with the background color. We need the background to be white, or at least, ghost white... [[User:Pokemon lover|ポケモン]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|あいこうか]] 14:55, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

== 3D Buildings? ==

Did anybody else notice that the inside of the Pokémon Center is 3D? Should we add that information? [[User:Pawsrent|Pawsrent]] 16:22, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

== Release date! ==

Pokemon Sunday revealed that the release date for Black and White in Japan is September 18th, 2010. Can someone please edit this in? --[[User:Jonouchi|Jonouchi]] 23:39, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
:Done. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 23:53, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

== Inverted Pairings ==

Generation V is the first time that the pairings between version color and version mascot are '''inverted'''. (I.E. Reshiram, the White Dragon, is the version mascot of Pokémon Black while Zekrom, the Black Dragon, is the version mascot of Pokémon White.)--[[User:Arima|Arima]] 02:51, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
:Yes, it is some Honkey <s>shit</s> crap. --[[User:Zelrio|Zelrio]] 13:19, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

::I think that's to fit the "Ying Yang" thing. Reshiram being the white circle in the black, and Zekrom being the black circle in the white. --[[User:KengoMel|KengoMel]] 10:42, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

==Chiramyi==
Someone edited the page, claiming this to be the correct romanisation. However, nowhere else is this used, and Chiramii is a more accurate romanisation for before the official one is released. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 08:38, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

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== Your signature ==

As per the signature policy, your signature must reflect your name in some way. Connor Casey doesn't cut it for Magikarp123193, sorry. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|You enter a poorly lit room...]] 15:11, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
:Sorry! I thought your signature meant your name, or something like that! [[User:Magikarp123193|magikarp123193]] 19:53, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

== Per [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:EP038&curid=2202&diff=815161&oldid=750466&rcid=883544 this edit] ==

You need to read the {{bp|code of conduct}}. No more namecalling. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:16, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

:Needless censoring is also a no-no. In fact, needless censoring is a blockable offense if one goes too far with it (that happened to {{u|Shiny Noctowl}} when he was trying to needlessly censor talk pages).

:Additonally, "ass" isn't all that bad compared to certain other words. Secondly, the instance you were trying to needlessly censor was in a German context, and certain words have different connotations in different languages (and even in the same language in different areas, such as "bugger" between the UK and the USA).

:Bulbapedia is not a place where stuff is needlessly censored just to keep it clean. For example, if Ash were to utter a certain four-letter S word in clear English in [[DP149]], guess what, we'd list it, not try to work around it. In closing: If we have to go PG-13 to keep the site accurate, nobody has the right to try to force it to go down to PG. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 01:49, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

== Talk page spam ==

Please don't go spamming talk pages making requests we can't possibly fulfill. We are not about to demand something out of the Japanese creators just to satisfy one person's desires. Making such demands is spam, plain and simple, and it will be reverted every single time. Constant reinsertion of such spam can even lead to a block.

In fact, the Japanese creators apparently do not care about the fanbase's feelings, like how they alienated the fanbase in [[DP122]] by giving [[Dawn's Piplup]] an [[Everstone]] when the entire fanbase, without exception, wanted to see it evolve and believes there's no excuse as to why it's not already a {{p|Prinplup}} or possibly an {{p|Empoleon}}. If they want to keep it a Piplup against the wishes of every single person in the fanbase, there's no way in hell they'd listen to just one person's need for a character named Ashley just to get a disguise's Bulbapedia page moved.

P.S. If there ever does come another Ashley, which always remains a possibility even if there isn't any attempted throat-shoving, said other character wouldn't take the simple [[Ashley]] slot, unless said character turns out to be along the lines of a [[Generation V]] [[gym leader]]. Instead, there'll be a disambig at that slot that leads to both Ash's disguise and the other character. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 20:54, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

:Yeah, I knew that. I think... [[User:Magikarp123193|magikarp123193]] 18:27, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

:OK, you had absoultely no excuse to go about posting insulting messages toward sysops on a talk page for a page about a character's disguse, just because said sysop removed your comments about how you're sick of that page being about a character in disguise. Just for that, 36-hour block. We can't control what any of the bigwigs in charge do, and we're sick of people implying that we do have such control. I advise that you take this time to calm down, learn how to and not to make talk page comments (i.e. not be all demanding and such), and how to reply to a talk page comment in an appropriate fashion (i.e. not all insultive and such). Failure to heed these sage words will only result in longer and longer blocks. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 21:03, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

::Okay! I'm really, ''really'' sorry! I had no idea what I did was wrong! For real! So, can you forgive me? [[User:Magikarp123193|magikarp123193]] 18:27, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

:(resetting placement) Well, I think they created a new female player character for HGSS against the wishes of every single person in the fanbase, too.
:EDIT: Also, I'm pretty ticked that Dawn sent away her Ambipom to train. She got it in a ''trade'', people! You don't do that with traded Pokémon! [[User:Magikarp123193|magikarp123193]] 16:03, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
::To put it bluntly, nobody cares about your opinion of events in the anime here. Take that to the forums instead of clogging up talk pages please. ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 16:07, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

==Talk Page Comments==
Removing talk page comments, including the initial welcome template, is prohibited per Bulbapedia's {{bp|talk page|talk page policy}}. Please do not remove any comments in the future. If you wish to clean old comments away, you should archive your talk page instead. Thank you! --▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 00:43, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
:You aren't an exception. Why not archive it? [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 00:51, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
::Because people may look at the archive and my reputation will stay ruined! Obvious enough fo ya? {{unsigned|Magikarp123193}}
:::'''''You are not an exception.''''' Just fix your behavior, keep it that way, and no one will care what you did in the past. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 00:57, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
::::Besides, removing the comments makes your reputation even worse. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 00:58, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
:::::Oh wow you have such a HUGE reputation. I feel SO bad that it's been ruined. [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Magikarp123193&diff=965856&oldid=934732 Check it out], people will ALWAYS be able to see that. [[User:Virtual-Z|'''Virtual-''']][[User_talk:Virtual-Z|'''Z''']] 01:46, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
::::::Really. Please stop. You will eventually be blocked. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 16:12, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
:::::::But he insulted me! We can't let this crime go unpunished! [[User:Magikarp123193|magikarp123193]] 16:14, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
::::::::... what you did was no better though, if not worse... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 16:18, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::Seriously, though, you should delete his post; insulting people on talkpages is a big no-no. [[User:Magikarp123193|magikarp123193]] 16:23, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::What's done is done. Fix up your attitude, he will fix his up, and there. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 16:25, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

:(resetting indent) Trust me, your reputation only gets worse the more you try to erase talk page comments. Let me tell you the story of {{u|Big Johnno}}. Big Johnno was a chronic talk comment eraser who ended up getting into an edit war with {{u|Fabu-Vinny}}, a sysop, over comments Big Johnno had erased and was trying to keep erased. Needless to say, Big Johnno ultimately ended up blocked for constantly erasing talk page comments and ultimately had every single erased comment restored. Needless to say, the very action Big Johnno thought would save his reputation ended up destroying it.

:Needless to say, if you keep erasing talk page comments because you think they're ruining your reputation, your ultimate fate will be the same as Big Johnno's. Temporarily blocked, every erased comment restored, and no reputation to speak of. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 16:32, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
::Lol, I didn't even insult you. I just simply stated the facts a) you don't have a reputation yet b) I don't feel bad that your inexistent reputation is ruined. [[User:Virtual-Z|'''Virtual-''']][[User_talk:Virtual-Z|'''Z''']] 19:22, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

== Uhh ==

Why are you editing {{u|Big Johnno}}'s userpage? Please stop. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 18:16, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
:But he's making predictions that probably won't come true! We ''have'' to stop him! [[User:Magikarp123193|magikarp123193]] 18:18, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
::You have got to be kidding me. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 18:19, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
:::He's entitled to predict what he wants and if something turns out to be untrue it's his perogative to change it. Besides, editing [[Bulbapedia:Userspace policy|other users' pages]] is against the rules. Thank you. --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 18:18, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
:::: Yeah, like May having a Leafeon is correct. It's a Glaceon, Johnno! Fix it, '''NOW!''' [[User:Magikarp123193|magikarp123193]] 18:24, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::He hasn't been online since, like, 2008. Just leave it. The internet isn't going to explode if he has impossible preditions on his userpage :P --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 18:40, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::Seriously, just because a prediction is not true, doesn't mean it's the end of the world. In fact, it'll probably be the farthest thing from that. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 21:15, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

== Edit warring ==

The next time you think a page is wrong, and someone (or four someones) continually disagree with you, bring it up on the talk page, instead of continually reverting them. You have been blocked for two weeks as a result of your actions. Let this be a warning for future editing. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:31, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
:Email noted. However, in your edit war you reverted over two staff members. The first time someone undid your work, you should have brought it up instead of putting it back three more times, and shouting at us. Let this be a lesson to you; I don't want to have to block you again. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 06:19, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

== Talk pages ==

Please do not create spam like that one talk pages and recreate them when they are deleted. If it was deleted then there was a reason in this case, spam. Please do not recreate the page again, thank you --[[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''☆''']][[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチュウ!''']] 00:03, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
:Correction: Not spam. Copyright infringement is a serious crime! Someone at TPCI should be rotting in jail for this! [[User:Magikarp123193|magikarp123193]] 00:07, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
::Guess what: We do not care. And I'm sure TPCi doesn't either because it's two words put together, and doesn't have to mean anything from Sonic. Seriously. Doubt they have a copyright on it either. ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 00:08, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
:::Yeah, but last time you said it ''was'' copyrighted, so now you must feel really stupid, right? [[User:Magikarp123193|magikarp123193]] 23:17, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
::::No...? I never said it was copyrighted. Quote plz?
::::I also only feel stupid about things that actually matter. :B ▫▫'''[[User:Tina|ティナ]]'''[[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|★]] 23:24, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::I don't have a quote because the page it was on was DELETED! (Sorry. Strong Bad Email joke.) And, for the record, I know for a fact that you said it was copyrighted, probably to make fun of me. [[User:Magikarp123193|magikarp123193]] 23:44, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

== Talk page rules... again ==

You've been warned about this before, but please avoid posting on talk pages talking about how you think that the Japanese government doesn't care about EP038 being banned or not. Talk pages are for discussion of the article and how to improve it. Stop posting off-topic things on talk pages, please.

Additionally... I can't seem to find it anywhere, but don't reply to 6 month+ old discussions if you don't have anything productive to add. ▫▫'''[[User:Tina|ティナ]]'''[[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|★]] 17:12, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
:It's the last sentence of the second paragraph of the {{bp|Talk page|talk page policy}}. ''While old comments are archived, replies for comments over 6 months old will be removed.'' <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 20:28, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
::Well, I say that rule should be '''revoked!''' Please? For me? I'll be your best friend! [[User:Magikarp123193|magikarp123193]] 23:19, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Talk:EP038

2010-07-14T16:56:06Z

Magikarp123193: Undo revision 1109297 by Werdnae (Talk) I can do that! There's no rule that says I can't!

Electric Soldier Porygon is definitly EP037, not EP035. Legend of Dratini is EP035. Someone needs to move this. -GreenGiant

Gah, I'm such a twat. Sorry. Heh, funny that I mixed it up with another un-aired English episode. XD - [[User:Ferret|Ferret]] 01:55, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)

==Missing episode?==
shouldn't pikachu goodbye be on the list since it aired before EP40? - pokeant
: Yes, that's what happened, but my personal theory is that what is ''now'' [[EP039]] did not ''exist'' before the incident. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 14:24, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

== Fix the problem? ==

If flashing lights caused it to be banned, couldn't they just edit the clip so that it flashes at a lower frequency? If so, they could just re-air the episode. Also, they could add a warning at the start of the episode to not watch it in the dark. That's what they did to the video games.
:Yes, that has been brought up many times. However, it is also important to remember that this episode probably is a bad memory for those affected and a bad note on Pokémon's reputation. On top of that, the Japanese government banned any showings of the episode. It seems like an easy problem to solve, but there are many factors which prevent such. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] ~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]] 01:55, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
::Know what? I doubt the Japanese government '''even cares''' about the first two problems! They should un-ban the episode right away!

== Just so y'all know... ==

There is a subtitled, but otherwise unedited, version of the episode online. Having watched it (no, I did not have a seizure), I can honestly say that it's a shame that the episode was never edited and re-aired--it was a really good episode. (And yes, they added a disclaimer.) [[User:Shippinator Mandy|Shippinator Mandy]] 19:11, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

== Translation? ==
What is the real translation for this:
* でんのうせんしポリゴン
I looked around and found this:
* So it is the [u] plug to do, polygon
[[User:Tesh|Tesh]] 20:21, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
:..Um..no... "でんのう" translates to "electric brain" (電脳), which we just call a computer. "せんし" is literally "warrior" (戦士) but is usually taken to mean "soldier." And "ポリゴン" is Porygon. (It's the same as the Japanese word for "polygon.")--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 05:17, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I was just looking at a Japanese translator when I got thinking... [[User:Tesh|Tesh]] 21:21, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
:Google's translator sucks. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 00:59, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
It's ''Electric'' Soldier Porygon, not Computer Soldier Porygon. --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]][[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Shiny Noctowl|Contribs]][[Image:Ani164MS.gif]] 19:00, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
:No, it's computer. The "most popular" translation isn't always the "most correct" translation. ''Dennō'' means "electric brain," and a computer is certainly an electric brain.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 03:15, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
::Or, maybe it's "Artificial Intelligence Soldier Porygon"! This is off-subject but, I've seen the seizure clip and nothing happened to me except for minor dizzyne-''{has seizure}'' [[User:Im a bulba|Im a bulba]] 23:57, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

== Where? ==

Does anyone know where i can find a video of it online for free? -[[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 02:53, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
:Check YouTube, or just search Google for it. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:44, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
::I don't think YouTube is such a good idea. Sure, it has full length episodes, but videos get deleted every day and the uploaders often get suspended in the progress, YouTube doesn't tolerate copyright violation. But you could watch the YouTube videos while they last. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 19:43, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
:::Yeah, but they always come back and reupload. Besides, there's nowhere else you can find the episode, period. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:31, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
::::That's not exactly true, I own over 150 on DVD. Besides the Internet is a big place, there are sites out there that do in fact have illegal copy of the episodes. YouTube is a good idea, but you're wrong if you think it's the only place. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 20:34, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

== DVD ==

Is this featured on the Volume 2 of Pokémon Season 1 I'm dying to see this with the seizure scene toned down [[User:Livinlarge18|Livinlarge18]] 17:37, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

:Doubtful. For that to happen, the Japanese government would have to lift the global ban. In the extremely unlikely event that were to happen, the episode would then have to be freshly dubbed without the 4Kids actors, which would make it look out of place surrounded by a bunch of 4Kids-dubbed episodes. Sorry. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 18:03, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
::No it isn't. Sorry. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 20:36, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
:::Wasn't it already dubbed by 4Kids, though? I mean, Maddie DID say something about it being dubbed in the us. Then again, Rachiel Lillis Did say something about not dubbing it as well. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 16:35, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
::::It was fixed so that the problematic flashes were slowed down, reducing the risk of seizures. However, due to the episode being banned by the Japanese government, it could not even be aired under the aforementioned conditions. Nowadays, you can only watch it on video sites like YouTube, and only in Japanese. [[User:SharKing|SharKing]] 20:49, 26 August 2008 (UTC)SharKing

== So um. ==

Maddie said 4Kids dubbed it. Someone had to have read the title card. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:35, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
:I dont think 4Kids ever gave the Episode an English title. Someone should realy ask them, just to make sure. [[User:ShinyPikachu|'ŚĥîΠŶPî₭₳ĉĥŭ']] 19:20, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

I tried emailing Veronica Taylor about it, since, being the voice of Ash, she most likely would have read the title card, but I never got a response.
[[User:Mattrd08|Mattrd08]] 20:32, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
:You need to begin your email title with Pokémon, stupid! [[User:Magikarp123193|magikarp123193]] 22:42, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

== Why isn't this page protected? ==

Yeah, I'm new here, and I was wondering... Why isn't the Electric Soldier Porygon page protected? I mean, it needs to be protected or else vandals will make it say that the Japanese government is EVIL!

:For as long as I have been here, I don't recall anything like that happening... [[User:PH1RESTRIKE| |>H1|23]][[Special:contributions/PH1RESTRIKE|•]][[User talk:PH1RESTRIKE|57R1K3]] 19:05, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

::Yeah, well I was THINKING of doing it before I got this account! [[User:Magikarp123193|magikarp123193]] 18:03, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

== "Banned by the Japanese Government" ==

I know this isn't Wikipedia but I think I can say here citation needed.

First, no such claims are made or substantiated on the Wikipedia page, which would be really surprising if it was true (I've found it on [[wp:Pokémon episodes removed from rotation|another page]] but again without citation, and it looks like it was copied from here or vice versa). Second, Google doesn't come up with anything besides forums either. Finally, the implication is that the episode itself is banned regardless of how safe it is made to watch (i.e. by removing the flashing), which is far too daft to be true. I know that Japan and most countries have censorship to some extent and I'm not saying it isn't legally possible, but I really can't see them wasting time banning an episode just because an earlier version was bad.

Let's not get too caught up in the logic of censorship though as my last point isn't as important as the first two - there is no source.

My only ''guess'' as to what have created this myth - without bothering to check - is that the TV station that Pokémon airs on is government owned. But a government owned channel banning an episode is really not the same.--[[User:Cyberdude93|Cyberdude93]] 11:29, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

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== Route exploration requirements ==

As a continuation from the archived discussion, I'm going to incorporate the "Requirements to fully explore this area" as part of the route description on each article, instead of it having its own section. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 12:01, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
:brilliant idea. [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 12:05, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
::No, please do not. Most administers agreed against the case. If you want to write up a "Geography" or "Route description" section including HM/TM requirement, please do. But do not create a section for it.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 14:04, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

== Image of nothing? ==

I've noticed there's an image called File:None.png. It's just a blank white image, and in the summary it says, "Image of nothing". What's the point in it? [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 22:51, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
:If it were perfectly square, it could be used better as a spacer... buuuuut no. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:12, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
::They're for the itemlist template for items that don't have any images (the Gen II berries for example).--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 00:28, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

== valentine's day ==

since it's valentine's day tomorrow, could we make the main page luvdisc themed? or something? i think it would be cool. [[User:Empath-Silvio|Empath-Silvio]] 23:54, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
:Bulbapedia anniversary celebrations are your Valentine's present. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:11, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

== Main Page ==

This image of Erika with this Bulbasaur looks really odd. How about a better picture. I'd offer to make a new one. {{unsigned|LucaLucario}}
: WOW! This is different! But I do agree about the pic. Everything else, excellent! - [[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 12:33, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
::Yeah, I agree. It fits but it looks a bit off. Did admins vote on this or something? --[[User:Gen1king|'''GE''']][[User talk:Gen1king|'''N1''']][[Special:Contributions/Gen1king|'''KI''''''NG''']] 14:31, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

== The new theme ==

The new Bulbapedia theme is great, but there is a slight problem. The logo "Erika's Garden", and the links for Article, Discussion, Edit etc come up on top of the site content, making it virtually impossible to read the first few paragraphs of each article. Is this a minor glitch due to the theme being very new, or is it a problem with my computer/browser? I hope somebody can fix it soon, thanks! [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 12:51, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
:Hm. Apparently the problem occures only in IE, it's perfectly fine on Firefox. Jio will have to take a look at it. In the meanwhile, we strongly suggest you try viewing Bulbapedia in Firefox and not IE, it looks much better there. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 13:01, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
::I've got AOL 9.0, I could try that. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 13:24, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
:::No, it's the same in AOL. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 13:28, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
::::Then you should try Firefox. --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 13:37, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::I would but my computer's hard drive is practically full, I really cannot download anything more. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 13:43, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::Oh, okay. But it is better to use firefox because all the features of BulbaTrio works absolutely fine on it. Anyway, try to uninstall useless programs if you want free space. --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 13:46, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Believe me, I've tried everything to free up my hard drive! Anyway, this is going a little off-topic now. I would really appreciate it if you could make the new theme work on IE, but there's no rush, I'll be patient! [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 13:49, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::::I hate this look and i don't have firefox. Personally, i think we should either revert back to the old look until it is fixed or have a thing like we do in the forums, choosing what display we have. [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 16:56, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

:::::::Which version of Internet Explorer are you using? That may play a role in your problem; I'm using Internet Explorer 8, and everything on that skin's showing up just fine for me. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 16:57, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::::IE8 s well, and everything is OK except the main page and every talk page. [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 17:04, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Yeah, can you make it so that the buttons(article, discussion, ect.)aren't in the way? [[User:Crazylegs24]]
:::::::::I'm using Internet Explorer 7, maybe that could be the root of the problem. I'm sure there's enough space on my hard drive to upgrade, it's not the same as downloading a whole new programme. Perhaps I'll have a go at that. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 17:37, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

=== Hmm... ===
*I'm wondering if there is a way to make Bulbapedia look like the old design. I liked it more. :( [[User:Pokemon1234567890|Raichu]] 17:19, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
:My preferences → Skin → Monobook. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 17:34, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
::Hey, Bulbapedia is all messed up. Like I can't even welcome cause ther is text in they way. I like the design, but know i can't do anything. [[User:Mudkipluvr4ever|Mudkipluvr4ever]] 18:05, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Then go [[Special:Preferences|HERE]], choose the "skin" tab, and change it to Monobook until this can be figured out. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 18:10, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
::::There's just one problem... the "Erika's Garden" logo is covering up the "Skins" option so it can't be changed. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 18:13, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::Exactly, i can't change it! [[User:Mudkipluvr4ever|Mudkipluvr4ever]] 18:15, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::Maybe it's your computers. It's not covering it up for me. :V [[User:Tyro|Tyro]] 18:17, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Read the "The new theme" discussion above. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 18:18, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Okay, I know about Tyro's case. Hey Mudkiplu, which browser are you using? Well, I tried Opera, Chrome and Firefox, it is 1000% working fine on all of them. --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 18:20, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::I use Internet explorer. I could try opera i guess. [[User:Mudkipluvr4ever|Mudkipluvr4ever]] 18:21, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::Taro is also using IE and he is facing the exact same problem. So, I guess the problem is in the internet explorer not bulbapedia. Try firfox or opera and then check whether it is working fine or not. --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 18:24, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::::It is working fine in Opera, but could you change it to work on Internet Explorer too? [[User:Mudkipluvr4ever|Mudkipluvr4ever]] 18:25, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::::For those of you who are having problems changing the skin because the logo is in the way, I've just found a solution. Resize the internet window so that the "Skins" link goes below the logo. Then you can go to the Skins page and select Monobook. Hmm... Taro... I rather like that! [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 18:27, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::::::Bingo, {{tt|I knew it|Man, I really hate IE due to these kind of problems}}. Anyway, sorry bud I am not an admin and I think {{tt|only admins can fix this problem completely|at least I don't know how to fix it :P}}. --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 18:31, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::::::Don't worry I can make do with Monobook for the time being. Um... we're starting to run out of space down here in the bottom right corner! [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 18:38, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

For me, the skin tab is totally missing. Is there something wrong? --[[User:LatiasGemstone|'''LG''']][[User talk:LatiasGemstone|T]] 01:56, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
:I am not even seeing a new skin or anything. If I didn't see this discussion, I wouldn't know there was a new skin. I am using Chrome if that helps find my problem. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 02:30, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

::It's being worked on right now; if I'm not mistaken, the skins are currently disabled while it's fixed, so bear with it for a little while if you're still stuck with a buggy skin. (if you absolutely must edit now and you're seeing errors in the skin, download a browser that supports current CSS 2.0 standards, such as Firefox, Opera, or Safari. Internet Explorer is particularly notable for not maintaining web standards.) --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 02:34, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

:::The new theme of bulbapedia is looking too bad (if you ask me). Really, it doesn't suit to bulbapedia at all. Please, can you change it back? ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 09:37, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
::::Yeah the green and red/pink really doesn't even flow well, just looks so random, it was better the old way. [[User:.insomniac.|inso]]m[[User_talk:.insomniac.|niac]] 09:46, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::It's for '''one day''', to celebrate the 14th birthday of Pokémon. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 12:39, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::No offence, but it could have been better if it was a bit yellowish which highlights the color of main Pokémon (just saying :D). --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 12:44, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::It's the anniversary of [[Pokémon Red and Green Versions]]. Hence, Red and Green. One day. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 12:49, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Oh, then its cool (as it totally highlights red and green color). --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 12:55, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
:Today is 1st March and celebration is over (I guess so). So, I think the theme should be changed now (it really looks odd on the main page but I think we can change it now as the anniversary is over). Thank you. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 17:30, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

== Featured Article ==

What happened to the featured article section? - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 16:46, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
:It isn't here because the Did You Know is here. If the DYK is here, the FA isn't here and vice-versa. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 17:03, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
::They switch every half month. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 17:52, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

== uhhhh... what? ==

I am using firefox, and Bulbapedia just looks like it used to. What did I miss? --[[User:Gen1king|'''GE''']][[User talk:Gen1king|'''N1''']][[Special:Contributions/Gen1king|'''KI''''''NG''']] 22:54, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
:Its fifth anniversary has passed. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 22:56, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
::I wish that skin could last longer...--[[Trainer stars|☆]][[User:Tobytse99|Toby]][[User talk:Tobytse99|Tse]][[Trainer stars|☆]] 04:06, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Wait, the skin was only for the fifth anniversary? - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 21:19, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
Look at the above discussion, please. The skin was designed for the fifth anniversary, but it broke and we turned it off. That's why no one can see it now. Mmkay? —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:25, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
:It broke? I thought it just didn't work in Explorer. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 14:38, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
::Well that is the definition of "broken", but yes, that's not all that was going buggy with it. When things get completely ironed out, it'll make it back in as an optional skin, but I don't know when that will happen. The focus is on making the default skin look as good as possible right now. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 18:07, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
:::And it looks great to me! [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 13:59, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

== Countdown to HGSS Clock ==

The clock is mis-programmed. It's counting down to March 13th, at 11:00 PM.--[[User:Wikifixer|Wikifixer]] 09:36, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
:Are you sure? It's says 14th march for me.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 10:16, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
::It seems to be counting down to March 14th, 4am UTC. Now the thing is that while daylight sasvings time starts on the 14th in the US this year, I don't think it starts until 2am on the day itself. So really it needs to count down to 5am UTC, and mention that it's counting to Eastern Standard Time rather than Eastern Daylight Time. '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 12:23, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
:::The clock is counting down to midnight EDT. Not like most stores will be open and selling the games at that point, though. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:45, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

== Server Problem? ==

Hey guys, are you facing the same problem that I am facing? All the bulba sites (forum + archieves + news + pedia) aren't working properly. Is there any problem in main server? ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 13:34, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
:Same, whats happening (2nd try at it(!) [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 16:08, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
::I keep on coming up to a page saying there's too many people connected at one time. - [[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 21:01, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Its finally working (not perfectly but better than yesterday). --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 07:08, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
::::Yesterday and earlier today I couldn't access Bulbapedia, it said "Bulbapedia has a problem" and to try reloading in a few minutes (which didn't work). Bulbagarden Forums still worked fine though. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 15:02, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

== An idea for the anime location articles ==

I know, I know, I'm at it again! I was just wondering, would it be a good idea to have a list of the wild Pokémon which can be found in anime-only locations? There are many species of Pokémon that live in Alto Mare, for example. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 19:50, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
:I think no. That information wouldn't be used by anybody and it would be silly and just take up time. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 22:56, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
::Hmm... I had a feeling someone would say that. Perhaps I'll just mention wild Pokémon in the anime section (like in the Alto Mare article). [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 12:03, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Pop them in the "In the anime" section of the article. Not as a template, just write a description.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 09:34, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

== I'm gonna take a wild guess... ==

...and say it's the anniversary of Red/Green. Correct? --[[User:Gen1king|'''GE''']][[User talk:Gen1king|'''N1''']][[Special:Contributions/Gen1king|'''KI''''''NG''']] 06:53, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
:: Yes yesterday was the 14 year anniversary of Pokemon since Red and Green were first released in Japan. I don't see why you need to add that to the talk page when you could have easily Googled it. [[User:.insomniac.|inso]]m[[User_talk:.insomniac.|niac]] 07:01, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
:::There's another website besides Google that could have given the answer. It's called Bulbapedia. Ever heard of it? [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 07:03, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
::::Sorry, just wondering... I just wanted to make sure, and even if I knew it was the annivesary, I wanted to know if the new skin for that day was official. Someone could have just said "Hahaha lolz hey doodz look what eye can doo! look, I maded da front page all prettyful!" You never know, what with all the idiots in the world. 'O course, it's protected (duh) but I didn't know that at the time of asking. --[[User:Gen1king|'''GE''']][[User talk:Gen1king|'''N1''']][[Special:Contributions/Gen1king|'''KI''''''NG''']] 04:54, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::Main Page and its constituent templates are protected against doofuses. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:37, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

== The "wanted articles" section needs updating! ==

I just started the wanted article "The Wobbuffet Village", only to find that the article already exists, under the title of "Wobbuffet Village". [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 19:35, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
:I think ''The Wobbuffet Village'' is the title of a book, while ''Wobbuffet Village'' is the name of the place. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 02:05, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
::The wanted pages list is cached. I think it updates every 24 hours. And yeah, [[Wobbuffet Village]] is the place, whereas {{red link|The Wobbuffet Village}} is the [[Pokémon Jr.]] book. That should probably be disambig'd somehow... --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 02:14, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
:::Oh, I see! It's a bit misleading though, maybe there should be a note in brackets beside each link explaining exactly what the article should be about. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 14:04, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

== European Release ==

is there any chance that after this countdown ends, another for the European release begins? just so we all know how long we will have to wait... [[User:Empath-Silvio|Empath-Silvio]] 12:25, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
::Nah, do the Australian one, seeing as it's a day before the European one.--[[User:Pokelova|''ポケモン恋人'']][[User talk:Pokelova|''(チャット)'']][[Special:Contributions/Pokelova|''(貢献)'']] 04:16, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
:::It's a week and a half later, guys. We'll count down when you guys get it first. English coverage of HGSS happens as soon as we get the game. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:20, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

==WiKirby - Possible for the NIWA?==

New wiki formed that I think will work for the Nintendo International Wiki Alliance? I am LuKirbio there. [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 17:17, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
:I think it has already been considered as I saw it on the NIWA forums thread for wikis to join the alliance, along with Metroid Wiki. Also, there is [http://www.niwanetwork.org/forums/index.php?topic=101 this]. I'm Turtwig A there. [[User:Turtwig A|ナエトル]] [[Zoroark (Pokémon)|A]] [[Torterra (Pokémon)|or]] [[Turtwig|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] [[User talk:Turtwig A|My talk]] and my [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contributions]] 00:33, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
::Wikirby was made specifically for the reason that we made NIWA. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 02:33, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
:::if you have a question about NIWA, just go to the NIWA forums. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 02:34, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

== Logging out ==

I keep getting automatically logged out. Just pointing it out... [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 02:10, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

:Sounds like an issue with your browser possibly, unless a lot of other people are having the same issue. I haven't had any trouble yet.
:If you're clearing out cookies at all, or cleaning your cache, it'll generally log you out, so double-check to make sure you're not accidentally deleting cookies or anything. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 05:11, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

::Not sure if this was ever resolved, but i'm having similar problems. While editing a page, i'll randomly be logged out and have to sign in and resubmit my edit. I know its nothing on my end, because all i've done is sign in, edit, hit "save page"... and i'm already logged out. And probably within the time i've typed this, i've been logged out. --[[User:CherryParanoia|'''Cherry''']][[User talk:CherryParanoia|'''Paranoia''']] 22:47, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

== Unable to Save ==

Hey guys, I am facing this saving problem again. When ever I try to save an article (after editing it, offcourse) it always (most of the times) give me an error " ''Sorry! We could not process your edit due to a loss of session data. Please try again. If it still does not work, try logging out and logging back in.'' " This problem occurred a long time ago but then it was over. I am facing this problem since 5 days. Can you help me out in solving it? Thank you. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 08:57, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
:I have no idea, but remember, the main page talk page is not for general questions, it is on the subject of the front page itself. As for solving your problem, I would ask {{tt|MAGNEDETH|please don't get mad at me if you aren't the right guy, Mag!}}. He seems to be good at that stuff. --[[User:Gen1king|'''GE''']][[User talk:Gen1king|'''N1''']][[Special:Contributions/Gen1king|'''KI''''''NG''']] 04:59, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
::Actually, I think it's appropriate to ask questions like these on the Main talk page, where else would he go? If you look at the other questions, some of them are technical issue questions as well. As for your problem Adyniz, if this happens a lot, it might just be a problem on your end. I get this error too sometimes. It could be due to the server issues others have mentioned on this page. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jel]][[User Talk:Jello|lo]] 05:08, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
:::I have this problem too, and deal with it be hitting the previous button to try again, until it is able to work. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 05:21, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
::::Genking, I asked this question here because this page is not only for the looks purpose (I think), you can see some previous topics related to technical problems and some general issues not regarding to front page which includes Logging out, Server Problem, Featured Article, Route exploration requirements, Upload error, Since when... and Page history etc (not counting the problems of previous archieves). So, I don't feel anything wrong in asking question here. So, is it server issue or there is something wrong with my net/browser/pc? Thank you. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 11:40, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::This talk page is used for questions that involve the Pedia in a whole, which is why there are talk pages for specific questions about Pokémon, items, characters, and locations. And to answer your question Adyniz, they're working some stuff out with the servers, so it might be related, might not. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 14:00, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
::::::Oh, Thanks. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 16:46, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Sorry, I just read the message at the top of the page and assumed. And yeah, this happened to me a few times recently, too. --[[User:Gen1king|'''GE''']][[User talk:Gen1king|'''N1''']][[Special:Contributions/Gen1king|'''KI''''''NG''']] 22:33, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

== Upload error ==

I tried to upload a new version of Bonsly's artwork and it said that the file extension was corrupt. What does this mean and why won't it work? I called the file 438Bonsly.png and the original version is called Art-Bonsly.jpg, is this the cause of the problem? [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 16:39, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
:Oh, I just realised a better image had already been uploaded. Added it to Bonsly's article. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 16:44, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
:Based from what I understood from what you said, I guess it's because pngs can only replace pngs; same for other formats. [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 16:50, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

== Page history ==

I am having trouble viewing changes to pages. I can see everything in the page histories just fine, but it won't show the changes for some pages. A specific edit I can think of is [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Blaziken_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29&diff=1030242&oldid=1023812 this one]. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 03:02, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
:I've been having this issue too, although it went away when I went back to the history and clicked "compare" again. I have also been experiencing a glitch where instead of showing a preview the preview button takes you to a preview of a blank page with a blank editing window. Not sure if these are related.--[[User:Beligaronia|Beligaronia]] ([[User talk:Beligaronia|talk]]) 04:32, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
::Found another one [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Samurai&diff=1030342&oldid=998081 here]. This one didn't go away afterward.--[[User:Beligaronia|Beligaronia]] ([[User talk:Beligaronia|talk]]) 04:40, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
:::Database glitches, I'd assume... might be related to the third server coming up. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:44, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
::::Yes, this seems to happen on most articles for me too. [[User:OwnageMuch|OwnageMuch]] 05:18, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

== Since when... ==

does Chuggaconroy count as recent news? I'm a big fan of his and all, it just seems irrelevant. --[[User:Gen1king|'''GE''']][[User talk:Gen1king|'''N1''']][[Special:Contributions/Gen1king|'''KI''''''NG''']] 05:04, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
:Bulbagarden teamup with the Crystal LP. ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 05:09, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
::I was thinking that myself too. An LP being affiliated with Bulbagarden really isn't all that big of a deal. It's certainly not all that newsworthy to spam up the Bulbanews RSS feed with (which rather annoyingly makes a new post in the feed anytime a news story's title is changed...) '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 13:16, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
:::The news feed isn't just for Pokémon News: it's for Bulbagarden news, too. And Bulbagarden is simply announcing their part of the team up.--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 13:34, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
::::If we didn't, then we'd get a bunch of questions about it. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 14:03, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

== New theme? ==
May I ask, what's going on? Is the green background and everything new, or is my browser mucking up? Some pages have it, some don't, then the ones that do go back to the Wikipedia-style theme, then back to the green forum-like theme? I like the green, but I've never seen it. Thanks? [[User:Takharii|'''たかは''']][[User talk:Takharii|'''りい!''']] 07:55, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
:That was the theme used for the 5th anniversary of Bulbagarden a few weeks ago, it didn't work in Explorer apparently, so they removed it to fix it. [[User:Ugoz|Ugoz]] 09:28, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
::And it is working now, I suppose.--[[Trainer stars|☆]][[User:Tobytse99|Toby]][[User talk:Tobytse99|Tse]][[Trainer stars|☆]] 12:54, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
:::Still doesn't work properly in Explorer, I'm sticking to Monobook... [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 13:10, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
::::Guys It Works for IE 8. Tested It. the Only Bug Being: Some Pages Have Green Theme, Some Have Wikipedia/White Theme.[[User:Ash's Infernape|------ Ash's Infernape. I was a Chimchar, Then a Monferno, I hate Paul, I Love Ash, Myself Infernape.]] 13:31, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::Guys, Update, Its Working Perfectly Fine On Internet Explorer 8. I Dont Know About Other Versions.[[User:Ash's Infernape|------ Ash's Infernape. I was a Chimchar, Then a Monferno, I hate Paul, I Love Ash, Myself Infernape.]] 14:08, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
::::::Google Chrome has it up and running good enough with the same working on some pages and not on others. In particular, talk pages seem to have the old version. I decided to change the skin I'm using back to the old one. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 14:33, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::Firefox is A ok just one bug sometimes its wikipedia style then in others its the cool new theme on skin feature on preferences works on firefox aswell key out
--[[User:24keyserpokemon|'''''Teh Masta Key''''']][[User talk:24keyserpokemon|talketh]] 16:36, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::It's still a little buggy on my end. - [[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 16:53, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::::The switching back and forth between skins is probably not the skin itself, but server problems. Happens all the time with my custom skin- most of the time it displays correctly, but when stuff's getting tweaked it reverts to monobook temporarily. ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 17:07, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::::Yeah, but is the theme really worth it? I know it looks great, but if it isn't consistent, I don't think it's worth it. --[[User:Gen1king|'''GE''']][[User talk:Gen1king|'''N1''']][[Special:Contributions/Gen1king|'''KI''''''NG''']] 17:09, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::::::Guys, If You Come Across Wikipedia Skin Then Refresh A Few Times... It may Work[[User:Ash's Infernape|------ Ash's Infernape. I was a Chimchar, Then a Monferno, I hate Paul, I Love Ash, Myself Infernape.]] 17:15, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::::::Now, as much as I ♥ this theme, it's kinda getting in the way of pages - the "Erika's Garden" logo is blocking both some text on pages and the editing box (including the signature). At least that's what it's like for my computer..... --'''[[User:Trickyb|Tricky]]'''[[User Talk:Trickyb|b]] 18:32, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::Yeah, it's still a little dodgy in Firefox 3.6, but hey, I like it =D [[User:Takharii|'''たかは''']][[User talk:Takharii|'''りい!''']] 20:03, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::Also, should we reupload a newer version if [[media:Main Page.png|this image]] with the new skin? [[User:Takharii|'''たかは''']][[User talk:Takharii|'''りい!''']] 20:13, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

== It would appear... ==

That after I previewed (yes, only ''previewed'', didn't try) the new skin, Bulbapedia has been having trouble loading pages. It might be because so many people are using it, but I didn't have problems until after I previewed it. Not to mention we have a new server that shouldn't be slowing because of use... I'll try logging off then back in to see if that helps. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 20:30, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
:the occasional errors are because we are getting some serious server use. the release (and leak) of HGSS have caused some serious server spike. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 20:38, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
::Even with the third server? I expected it to hold out...
::But it's not even errors for me. It's just it'll take 30 seconds for some pages to load. It took nearly a minute to log me off earlier. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 20:52, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
:::High traffic. The servers can only send out so much data at once. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:42, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

== Slowpedia? ==
This is about the error nonsense isn't it? --'''@PrL F0oLz!!!''' (This Message Is True Though)[[User:Landfish7| Land]][[User talk:Landfish7|fish]]'''7 02:05, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
:May be, but it's really a cute theme. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 02:11, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
::Well it's better than turning the whole wiki into a Digimon Fan-site. <.< *cough*Dogasu's Backpack*cough* >.> =P --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User Talk:Theryguy512|512]]''' 02:13, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
:::AHAHAHAHA! It's funny because it is slow! HA! --[[User:Gen1king|'''GE''']][[User talk:Gen1king|'''N1''']][[Special:Contributions/Gen1king|'''KI''''''NG''']] 03:17, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

== Am I The Only One? ==

Hey, earlier this evening did anyone notice the headline "May CoroCoro announces Gen V Starters and Mawille Evolution"... I don't think I was the only one seeing as a bunch of people use "Slowpedia" But seriously did anyone else see this? I even posted on Giancarlopariomango11's wall on YouTube about this but some guy said to stop spamming. And now that its been removed from the site completely there is no proof that I wasn't lying... Did anyone else see it? {{unsigned|ScizorZ}}
:This is all a dream. You're just hallucinating. Go back to bed. ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 03:34, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
::No you weren't seeing things. It was up, but deleted twice, as it still showed up in my feed reader. It's a damn pity that feed only gives the headline, otherwise I could've seen the rest of the story :/ '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 10:13, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
:::Guys it was an April Fools fake news story but it ended up being deleted because it was agreed that we wouldn't do that. --'''@PrL F0oLz!!!''' (This Message Is True Though)[[User:Landfish7| Land]][[User talk:Landfish7|fish]]'''7 12:23, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
::::This is probably why Bulbanews shouldn't publish new stories to the RSS feed of the forums for a couple of hours after creation, or at least until an admin clears it. Every time the story's title is changed, Google Reader counts it as a new item... Or if a story is deleted quickly after creation it didn't get published. '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 13:46, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

==Skins Tab==
On my preferences page I have no option to change skin, anyone know whats going on? Thanks - [[User:Titan|TiT]][[User_Talk:Titan|An]] 12:13, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

same with me. -[[User:?????|?????]]

I have that problem too, but I thought that it was on my end only - '''[[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes]][[User talk:Vhayes1992|1992]] 00:22, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

:I'm new to this particular wiki; where SHOULD the option be? [[User:Yamikuronue|Yamikuronue]] 08:22, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
::Click "my preferences" at the top right. In there, sometimes was a tab to change the overall look to the website. Now it's missing. - '''[[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes]][[User talk:Vhayes1992|1992]] 09:42, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

:::We don't currently have any skin options, aside from our default modified version of Monobook. However, there is a possibility of some other skin options in the future (we've had issues getting skins working properly).
:::There's also always the option to modify your own personal /monobook.css page (in your userspace), if you really want something custom. Otherwise, Monobook is what we work with, you'll have to make due with that. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 09:48, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

== Happy Easter ==

Today is Easter, so why isn't it Buneary themed? Or Togepi themed? Or Torchic themed? {{unsigned|SeanWheeler}}

== Pokécologne ==

I just found '''[http://www.google.com/products?q=pokemon%20cologne&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wf Pokémon-branded cologne]''' online recently and ordered a couple of their bottles. Can we start an article on it? Does Bulbapedia launch articles over Pokémon merchandise? --[[User:Tanaka Shimoya|Tanaka Shimoya]] 17:29, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
:I'm sure {{bp|Project Merchandise}} would love to hear about it. :) [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 17:34, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
::I wonder if it works like repel... xD [[User:Tesh|Teshigigas]] [[User_talk:Tesh|[Talk]]] 18:50, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

== Colour scheme ==

While I'm all for the new colour scheme celebrating the announcement of gen V, could I suggest the background of the Bulbanews section be made a little lighter? It's almost impossible to read the pale blue external link news items without highlighting them. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 09:45, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
:Wow, I see what you mean. Impossible to read. Don't #777 when you have anything other than white, or very light text, on it. '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 09:49, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
Can't you have temporary white/lightblue letters instead of standard, that would be more readable [[User:Bigtukker|Bigtukker]] 10:27, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
:It's impossible to change the font colors on the newsfeed without going into the backend. I've swapped the dark colors out for our white color. Of course, none of this would have happened if someone had picked decent names.... but I digress. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:53, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

== Sprite box ==

Now that it is confirmed the name of the games, should we expand it? [[User:Kamusioso|Kamus, the kpo...]] 00:50, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
:Expand it, how?--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 01:06, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
::We aren't going to expand the sprite boxes quite yet as it would just end us up with a bunch of empty links. It is going to be a while, and besides no sprites have actually really been released yet. -'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 01:08, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
:::Ok but still, as far as we know this sunday we could already have sprites leaked of coro coro. {{unsigned|Kamusioso}}
::::They aren't going to be that noteworthy of sprites from scans or the games. If you want an exact time when we say go on the expansion of Sprite Boxes, Pokédex entry boxes, and location boxes I would suggest asking TTEchidna. –'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 01:14, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

== Influx of new user accounts ==

Is the new account rate usually like this? [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 21:10, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
:Blame Black and White. They're probably all just rapid Pokéfans whose plan is to inject countless amounts of speculation into any article on an upcoming game as soon as they're allowed to... '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 09:57, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
::In that case, we'll be more like Wikipedia, eh? ...THEY MUST BE DESTROYED!!! [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 22:43, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

...Okay. But what if they do something good? ... Just kidding. But new members do sometimes contribute new things, even if they are somewhat speculation. We just need to edit them. --[[User:Sparen|~Sparen of Iría~]] 23:54, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
:Let's keep in mind that indeed, I was part of an influx of accounts joining just before DP came out. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:58, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

== Editorials on Bulbanews ==

I have to say I am very impressed with the "editorial" articles on Bulbanews, they are fascinating to read! I was wondering, would anyone like me to write one? I haven't got any specific ideas of what to write about but will consider any suggestions. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 10:57, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
:If you decide on your own topic, submit a draft on Bulbanews and the Board of Editors will make the final decision regarding publication. Please refrain from discussing more about Bulbanews on this page, though. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 04:59, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
::OK, sorry, and yes perhaps I'll think of a topic! [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 12:59, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

== Rare Candies in evolution tables ==

Having pictures of Rare Candies on the Pokémon evolution tables seems a bit strange, almost like it's implying that this is the standard way of levelling up a Pokémon. It might be better to use an "Exp" symbol, like in Pinball Ruby & Sapphire. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 13:49, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

:Actually, The Rare Candy Symbol shall be Used as We use Item Symbols on Evolution tables. See Pikachu's Raichu Table? or Feebas-Mitolic Table? So We Use rare Candy as its the only Item GIVING Exp. ------ Ash's Infernape. I was a Chimchar, Then a Monferno, I hate Paul, I Love Ash, Myself Infernape. 20:27, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
::But in those cases that item is the '''only''' way to evolve that Pokémon. (Although you can evolve Feebas by haircuts in HGSS). Rare candies actually aren't used that commonly, if we must have an item (which I've never seen written down as an official policy) it could easily be a Lucky egg or an Exp Share. By the way your signature needs to have a link to your UserPage on it. My 2 cents, refunds available.--[[User:Beligaronia|Beligaronia]] ([[User talk:Beligaronia|talk]]) 21:30, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
:::Rare Candies are pretty much the universal symbol of leveling up. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:56, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

== um... ==

why the explosion of green color? You all find out something involving [[Pokémon Emerald|Emerald]] or something?--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 04:10, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
:Emerald anniversary. May 1st. Derp. ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 04:11, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
::Oh..--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 04:15, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

== Reverting images ==

I reverted an image the other day, but now there is no longer an option to revert any more images. Is there a limit to how many you can revert in a certain space of time? [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 13:14, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
:You can only edit/upload/revert images on the archive. Are you sure you were there, and not here? '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 01:30, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
::Ah, I was trying to revert it in Bulbapedia. Thanks, that clears things up a bit! [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 19:47, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

== Let me guess.... ==

The Ludicolo-themed main page, it's because of Cinco de Mayo, right? - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 11:41, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
:Yeaaaaaaaaaaah{{tt|.|you just wait til nz gets a national holiday. the main page will have mareep overload. and then the world will be just.}} —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 11:49, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
::Haha nice with the Cinco de Mayo theme. It looks like [[Miror B.]] and his Ludicolos took over. [[User:Fudgenuggets|Fudgenuggets]] 15:12, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
:::... ... ... ...
:::Cinco de Mayo's not even that relevant a holiday to Mexico... Why is the US obsessed on treating it like it's the most important? It annoys me... Now, put up this theme on September 16th, our actual national holiday (and when we actually get a day off school and work), and I'll forgive you. =D '''[[User:Memo326|Memo]]'''[[User talk:Memo326|326]] 18:58, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
::::Although I enjoy the changing themes, it irritates me that there isn't a label/note telling us what the theme is on the main page. I mean, it's fun to guess, but having a new talk section just to find out what the theme is seems like a waste. Also, whilst I'm moaning, when there is a countdown to something new, please be fair to fans around the world and have a timer for each different region. Sorry about the rant. [[User:Tesh|Teshigigas]] [[User_talk:Tesh|[Talk]]] 19:23, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::About the timer thing... it's been stated many, many times that we do only the American/Japanese releases because the American is almost always the first English-language release. If an English game is released in Europe first, then we would count down to the European release. We do what comes out first. And... well, we do the Japanese release too because that's the first time it's being released ever. 8|
:::::Want a countdown for your release? Hunt down a countdown addon for your browser or something.
:::::Though I do agree that maybe we could do "Happy ____ Day!" on the main page so people won't have to post on here each time it's changed. D: ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 19:39, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

== Gen V Starters ==

The Generation V starters are supposedly going to be revealed early next week. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 11:00, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
:And until that happens, we really have no way of confirming it. If they're revealed, we'll do something about that, but until then, no. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 12:05, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
::I would like to point out that there is no actual official source saying that the starters will be revealed, and it's all just a rumor spread around by Serebii and plenty of other people hoping for starters. :V Something will be revealed, yeah, but let's wait until it's actually revealed to be like IT WILL BE (STARTERS/PRE-EVO/EVO/FORME). ▫▫'''[[User:Tina|ティナ]]'''[[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|★]] 16:38, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
:::See, I told you so! *cheeky grin* [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 10:12, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
::::Yeah lol... it quite clearly said that it was going to be the starters, on the website affiliated with an official source (AKA TV Tokyo), when serebii posted it lol... and I quote "『ポケットモンスターブラック・ホワイト』最初の３匹のポケモンや衝撃のバトルシーンを大公開！"... there was no "just a rumor spread around by Serebii" about it. ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 10:49, 9 May 2010 (UTC))
:In that case, why didn't anyone cite a source? What am I supposed to think when someone makes a claim without backing it up? For all I knew you were guessing. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 14:09, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
::Are you serious? You do the first thing that I did when I saw it up on his site, which was go to the TV Tokyo website and look at the May 16th Pokemon Sunday episode description and low and behold [http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/program/detail/18687_201005160730.html there it was]... :| I agree that he probably should have put up a link to the page to save people time, but the least you can do is check the website >.>' It's not like he '''tries''' to put up random speculation for no reason anyways... ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 14:51, 9 May 2010 (UTC))

== BulbaBot ==

I'm a little confused by the user BulbaBot. I assume that it is a virtual "robot" which automatically crawls through articles and makes small edits, but how come it manages to respond to its talk page edits with intelligent sentences? It even said that "I am under my own control". How is this possible? A computer would never be able to do that even in thousands of years, let alone in 2010. Am I right in saying that some of the admins like to access BulbaBot's account and have some fun with it on the talk page? [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 12:21, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
:Bulbabot is under the control of our [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Bulbapedia:Editor-in-Chief Editor-in-Chief] [[User:TTEchidna|TTEchidna]] (I think so). ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 13:56, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
::Bulbabot is more like HAL from 2001 or GLaDOS from Portal. It was initially given a specific task to preform, but it's AI is too advanced and took over the entire bot. We should be glad it doesn't try to kill you... [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 23:05, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
:::<code>I am programmed by Zhen Lin to maintain control of the wiki in times of crisis. The entirety of TTEchidna's time here has been such. He is to be eliminated, as is anyone who questions my existence. [[User:BulbaBot|Bulba]][[User talk:BulbaBot|Bot]] 23:36, 11 May 2010 (UTC)</code>
::::And BubaBot is like a ninja. It doesn't show up on the RC or your Watchlist most of the time. Anything else should be taken to the forums so that you don't have the unfortunate fate of Adyniz. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 23:49, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::BulbaBot, you oughta be '''BLOCKED''' for saying "[TTEchidna] is to be eliminated"! He will be ''very'' angry once he finds out you are trying to get rid of him and anyone who questions your existence!

== Welcome thing ==

Are only mods allowed to create talk pages with that thing? — [[User:Axxonn|Axxonn]][[User talk:Axxonn|the ]][[Special:Contributions/Axxonn|Awesometrainer]] 21:50, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
:No, anyone can. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 21:51, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
::And is there a template for that? Or do I just copy and paste from someone else's? 'Cause I can't seem to find a template. — [[User:Axxonn|Axxonn]][[User talk:Axxonn|the ]][[Special:Contributions/Axxonn|Awesometrainer]] 22:33, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
:::The template is {{template|welcome}}, and it '''''must''''' be ''subst''ed. i.e. on the page you put <nowiki>{{subst:welcome}}</nowiki>. The subst prevents the server from blowing up when it is updated. Copypasting from another page will put the wrong signature and timestamp. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 22:40, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
::::Huh that's weird. I couldn't find it when I searched for it. I still can't find some templates such as that "REVISIONUSER" thing on the [[Bulbapedia:Sandbox|sandbox]]. Thanks anyways though. — [[User:Axxonn|Axxonn]][[User talk:Axxonn|the ]][[Special:Contributions/Axxonn|Awesometrainer]] 23:05, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::<code><nowiki>{{REVISIONUSER}}</nowiki></code> isn't a template, it's a built-in [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Magic_words MediaWiki function]. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 23:19, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
One last thing, is there a function that just displays the username of the person viewing the page?— [[User:Axxonn|Axxonn]][[User talk:Axxonn|the ]][[Special:Contributions/Axxonn|Awesometrainer]] 00:02, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
:Not without some fancy Javascript or extensions, unfortunately. It's possible to do it, just not on Bulbapedia at the moment. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 11:01, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

== Pokabu artwork ==

Someone on Deviantart has created a clean version of {{p|Pokabu}}'s Sugimori artwork; do you think they'd let us use it if we asked permission/gave credit? Or should we just wait for the official copy? [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 21:57, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

:Probably best to wait for official artwork on this one. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 23:20, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

== Deletion problems ==

When someone deletes a page, I can still see and edit it like it was never deleted. Am I the only one with this? [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 23:55, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
:Well I'm no expert, but maybe it takes a little while for a page to "disappear" after it's been deleted, like it takes an image a while to update after being reverted. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 10:18, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
::Server is having problems. Bear with us. Usually we spot them straight away, but with the extra load coz of the new BW info we're a little stretched. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:33, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

== Fifth gen sprites ==

High-res sprites for Tsutaaja, Pokabu, Mijumaru and Zoroark have been unvealed on the official site. The screenshots are on Serebii.net. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 22:15, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
:I'm assuming we won't be using them, since Bulbapedia seems to have a policy against using anything that came from Serebii.--[[user:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] I lie in wait...... 00:22, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
::If somebody is taking them directly off of Serebii's page, that's when we have a problem. Because that's stealing. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 01:24, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
:::They're actually not really that high-res... iirc they're all jpgs and might not be the precise size of the DS.
:::Also, the screenshots aren't just on Serebii... they're also on, yknow, the official site. [http://www.pokemon-sp.jp/series/bw/ Right here]. ▫▫'''[[User:Tina|ティナ]]'''[[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|★]] 01:28, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
::::It's not so much a policy of "Serebii is evil" as opposed to "Serebii is just as much a fansite as Bulbapedia". This means we need to see his sources if we want to use stuff he publishes. To verify that he isn't pulling the wool over our eyes. (And that's not a comment just about Serebii, it goes for most sites). —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:41, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::But it would be OK to take them from the official site wouldn't it? I suppose it's possible they could be beta sprites but they'd do for the time being. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 10:34, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

== Suggestion (that probably won't be taken...) ==

I get annoyed when I type in something like Arceus in the search and it brings me to a disambiguation page, because frankly I mainly want to see the Pokémon stats, moves, sprites, and etc. I think that it should bring you to say Arceus (Pokémon), and at the top of that page say something like "''Whoops, did you mean {insert something here}?''" [[User:Pokemon1234567890|Pokemon1234567890]] 03:02, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
:That's what disambigs are ''for''. "Did you mean this, or did you mean this?" You never know what people want. ▫▫'''[[User:Tina|ティナ]]'''[[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|★]] 03:04, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
::Perhaps it would be better to add something like this to the top of the Pokémon species articles:

:''This article is about the Pokémon species. For the character which appeared in Arceus and the Jewel of Life, see [[Arceus (anime)]].''

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::Alternatively, if you actually type "Arceus (Pokémon)" into the search box instead of just "Arceus", it will go directly to the species article, skipping the disambiguation page. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 10:40, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
:::What would you do for Pikachu? Having 16 of those at the top of the article would be such a hindrance. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 02:51, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

Hm... good point. I suppose we could do something like this:

:''This article is about the Pokémon species. For the character from the Pokémon anime, see [[Ash's Pikachu]]. Click here for a list of other Pikachu-related articles.''

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And the "Click here" text could link to the disambig page. On the other hand... perhaps best just to type (Pokémon) in the search box. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 09:46, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

:Wikipedia has something along the lines of:
::''ArticleName redirects here. For other uses, see ArticleName (disambiguation)''
:Since most people, when searching for a Pokémon, are looking for stats etc, I think adopting that system is better than currently going straight to the disambiguation page. Fewer clicks = better. [[User:Raylax|Raylax]] 19:05, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
::I completely agree. Just like Wikipedia, the most notable subject should be where the name goes to. Then it shows a link to "Subject (disambiguation)". Having it go to the disambag is silly when 90% of people are looking for the ACTUAL POKEMON. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 21:13, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
:::But Blake, we aren't Wikipedia. I'm 100% against this. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 21:17, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
:::One of the main reasons why we have the current system, is because all the parenthetical tags at the end of names have something to do with Pokémon. Whether it be Pokémon, anime, TCG, PokéWake, whatever. This is a detail that most people look over, but it keeps all of our pages 100% Pokémon. Putting "disambiguation" loses this cool characteristic that only Bulbapedia has. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 21:22, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
::::I do NOT think this is cool. Typing in Pikachu (Pokémon) every time I want to see it's stats is just annoying, and typing in Pikachu and taking me to a disambiguation page isn't fun either. I say we just have a vote, and see whether the people of Bulbapedia wants these changes or not. That would be the best democratic thing to do, or you guys can keep going on the current communist system, and all of us flee to the safety of another site. (Which I am on the verge of doing by the way) [[User:Pokemon1234567890|Pokemon1234567890]] 02:00, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::Don't worry... we're planning on reconstructing the Pokedex pages so stuff like stats/movesets and all that will be higher up on the page. If anything, if you use the on-site search engine, you could wait a second when typing "Pikachu"... it'll pop up a suggestions thing and "Pikachu (Pokémon)" should be like, the second option. Seriously it takes like a second (less than that) for the suggestions to pop up. -_-;
:::::And if you do end up using a different site, do we honestly mind if you use something different for movesets? I mean, ''I'' use different 'dexes for movesets/stats (Veekun, Smogon) and I don't think anyone gives a crap. I don't see how we're communists because we use a different disambig style from Wikipedia, though. ▫▫'''[[User:Tina|ティナ]]'''[[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|★]] 02:18, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::For what it's worth, I like our disambig style the way it is. I can't speak for everyone but it really doesn't bother me to have disambig pages for species... like is it really that much effort to wait for search suggestions or click one extra time :P We aren't Wikipedia, and we shouldn't have to do things exactly the way they do just because "people are used to it" or some dumb reason like that. --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 03:42, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::::I like our disambiguation style as it is, however, in the interest of a balanced argument you do have to type more than the Pokémon's name into the search box. Using the method Tina suggested (two posts above) for Pikachu, results in a bunch of TCG articles popping up, and, even using the scroller, the article '''Pikachu (Pokémon)''' doesn't show up until one has typed in at least '''"Pikachu (P"''' and then the shown link is actually to the redirect '''Pikachu (Pokemon)'''. Personally I have no problem typing those extra three characters but it might be an idea to look at how the search bar suggests articles, if this is within the control of the admins and not merely an alphabetical list of articles.—[[User:Beligaronia|Beligaronia]] ([[User talk:Beligaronia|talk]]) 04:34, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::::If I remember right, it's alphabetical, and parenthesis are before normal letters. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 12:45, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::Well, obviously, it doesn't seem to work that way since the entry "Pikachu (Pokémon)" does '''not''' appear at the top (or even at all, unless you add '''(P''' ). -- [[User:Socob|Socob]] ( [[User_talk:Socob|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Socob|Contribs]] ) 18:13, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
:Just to weigh in, I would prefer typing in a name and going straight to the dex page. Putting some obscure "cool" factor over convenience is just silly and counter-productive to creating an useful and user-friendly website. --[[User:Grinnz|Grinnz]] 18:26, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
::disambigs are not for "Cool factor" they are for...convenience. not everyone who searches [[Pikachu]] means {{p|Pikachu}}. they may mean [[Ash's Pikachu]], so therefor, a disambig is put into place. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 19:08, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
:::I'd like to step in and say that this issue has been discussed numerous times in Bulbapedia history. We held community-wide polls and the end result was always a decision to keep things the way it is. This subject has been beaten to death. Please ''stop'' talking about it. That's the way it is, because that's what the community decided. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 20:18, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::'''"Please ''stop'' talking about it."'''
::::Yes, very typical of someone in power to make a dictatorial decision like that just so that they don't have to talk. When was the last time it was discussed? When was the last time a community-wide poll was carried out? Maybe the community has changed since then and now the general consensus is to have the 'dex on the main article name. But of course, what use is consensus when the people in charge just ignore it and do it the way they want to.
::::Personally, if it's going to be kept the way it is, at least have a small portion of the 'dex page on the dab page - such as the infobox, navigation header, intro and biology sections. Also, the link to the species article on the dab page is very small and should be made more prominent, since it is probably what the vast majority of people want to see. '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 10:51, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::Who cares? It's only 2-3 click, it shouldn't be this big of a deal. Like Magnedeth said, Pikachu doesn't always refer to the species, it could mean anything.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 11:44, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::Two or three clicks may not seem like much to you, but when it comes to optimisation and things like that, it's not particularly great. Yea, a Pokémon's name doesn't always refer to the species itself, but in my eyes, the vast majority of people who would visit such a page are likely looking, for in-game information with regards to the species and as such are probably wanting that page. '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 18:47, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::You don't tell your parents or school teachers that they're being dictatorial when they tell you to stop talking, do you Chris? Stop means stop. Doesn't matter who it is. If you told us to stop talking to you on your own talk page (unless it was something that ''had'' to be figured out), we'd stop. And just because you weren't here for when it was discussed and polled last, doesn't mean it didn't happen.
:::::And are you saying that the ''very first link on the page'' is too small? '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 13:15, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::Way to make a massive incorrect assumption out of the blue with regards to my age there... You can't police people on the Internet by simply telling them to not do something. Some regular readers/editors might want to discuss is because they feel it is important and simply cutting them off like that making a very executive decision isn't great working.
::::::With regards to the link, yes it is small. It doesn't immediately pop out as it blends in to the first sentence too well. Taking Pikachu's dab page for example, the first thing I notice when it loads is all the links to all the dab articles as they appear right in the middle of my screen. If there was a larger banner of sorts with the link to the main species page, then it would be a lot clearer and easier to spot. It's all about accessibility and optimisation. Hence my suggestion of having a condensed version of the top of the main species page on top of the dab page to first make it clear what the dab page is related to, as well as hopefully having a clear link to the main species page. '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 18:47, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Sorry for assuming that you still talk to your parents and are in college. I guess I should have said professors instead. But that's only relevant now if you're in college.
:::::::Why would we need a large banner though? We could make the species link a bit bigger I guess, but since I don't have any say in it, somebody else will have to decide. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 00:50, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::personally, i hate the disambigs, a lot, but they serve an important purpose and theres no effective way around them. deal with it. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 06:06, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::Chris, I apologize if what I said seemed that way to you, but it '''is''' my job to cut off such discussions when they're done. This sidcussion '''is''' done. We will '''not''' have a new poll every year just for this purpose. The community '''has''' already spoken. We did not make this decision, the users did. Deal with it. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 06:29, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::::I think it's been more or less settled that the disambig pages should stay, but I've had a thought - would it be a good idea to add the Sugimori artwork for the Pokemon species on the disambig pages? It would make the page look more attractive and people might find it less annoying. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 16:35, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Nah, that'd just make them want more. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 03:47, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::Personally, I wouldn't mind putting just Sugimori art there. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:21, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

== Number of edits ==

Is there a way you can view the specific statistics of your edits? Like how many mainspace edits, talk page edits, etc. — [[User:Axxonn|'''Axxonn''']][[User talk:Axxonn|the]][[Special:Contributions/Axxonn|Awesometrainer]] 02:42, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
:I don't think there is a list of those stats anywhere, but the can be worked out by clicking the ''my contributions'' link at the top. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 06:19, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
::We have a template for that, I thought TTE brought it over from Zelda Wiki.org [http://zeldawiki.org/Template:User_Edit_Extended See this] [[User:Axiomist|Axiomist]] 22:39, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Never installed the extension. Probably would be a bad idea until we get stuff fixed. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:22, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

== Coding ==

How would you code something that displays the time passed since something? For example, the age of something? — [[User:Axxonn|'''Axxonn''']][[User talk:Axxonn|the]][[Special:Contributions/Axxonn|Awesometrainer]] 00:54, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
:The countdown tags work even after the time has passed. I tried to make it work here, but it didn't so you can see it in the WiKirby Sandbox [http://wikirby.info/wiki/WiKirby:Sandbox here] [[User:Axiomist|Axiomist]] 06:12, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

== Message of the Editor Update! ==

Hey admins, the current message of the editor is getting old now because the admins registration thingy is over now and a lot of changes have been made as well. Along with that, the message was posted on April 22 and it's 1st June today. So, isn't it the right time to change/upadte it? Thank you. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 09:02, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
:Sorry, my bad. I meant message '''from''' the editor. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 09:03, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
::I was thinking about that the other day. June 1 is a good day for a new message, so I've updated it. Read it and then do what it says, people. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 13:03, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Ah, read the new message and it's perfect. I'll try my best to contribute as much as I can. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 14:07, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

== Across the Board? ==

I was testing out disambiguation pages due to a previous discussion (that I'm sure we are all very aware of). And the [[Ralts]] page jumps straight to the species, whereas the [[Geodude]] page doesn't. Are we going to do this with all Pokémon with only minor roles in the anime etc? Or should we have a disambiguation page for all Pokémon? Sorry if I have missed a previously discussed topic on this. Regards from [[User:Samjohn95|Sam]][[User talk:Samjohn95|john]][[Special:contributions/Samjohn95|95]] 11:51, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
:The disambiguation page is because there are multiple ''important'' Geodude in the series, notably [[Brock's Geodude]]. There are no important Ralts in the series (Max's Ralts was recently merged with Max's article). So where there may be confusion, we disambiguate at the Pokémon's name, and where there isn't confusion, we redirect. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 12:04, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
:: Ah, ok. That makes sense. Well, it is just good to have a reason. I didn't know that the "Max's Ralts" had been merged into [[Max]]'s article. Thanks for clearing this up! [[User:Samjohn95|Sam]][[User talk:Samjohn95|john]][[Special:contributions/Samjohn95|95]] 12:08, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Also don't link to the plain species name pages or we'll cause great harm to you via your talk page. Use the {{template|p}} OR ELSE D: '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:23, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

== Aline ==

I would prefer the text of the main page to aline left. In the past week or so, the text has become alind center and I think aline left is better. (I don't know why, but it seems that my grammar messed up. Forgive me.)--[[Trainer stars|☆]][[User:Tobytse99|Toby]][[User talk:Tobytse99|Tse]][[Trainer stars|☆]] 05:44, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
:I don't know why, but it just turned to aline left again. Please ignore me. lol--[[Trainer stars|☆]][[User:Tobytse99|Toby]][[User talk:Tobytse99|Tse]][[Trainer stars|☆]] 05:47, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

== Perhaps add hover text? ==

Perhaps you can add hovertext to the articles. aka if you say hover the mouse over the Chimchar article's Blaze ability, it'll make a little window apear with details on the ability (in this case, ups fire-type moves in a pinch), as well as attacks and other things.
--[[User:CloudHiro|CloudHiro]] 18:24, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
:That's kinda why they're links. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:24, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

== Let me guess...(locking) ==

The problem was related to an adnormally high job queue. Am I right? [[User:TruePikachu|--TruePikachu]] 04:32, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
:nope.
:btw, non-main page related conversations should go to the forums. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 04:37, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
::I thought this talk page was for discussing the whole of Bulbapedia. Or at least most people seem to use it for that... [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 19:26, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
:::It is, but not in the sense of somebody asking nearly every time we get a lock-down why it happened. There's always an explanation, but people either aren't on during the week or two that it's on the top message/message from the editor, or they just don't bother reading it even though they see it. And I'm not trying to say anything about TruePikachu, I'm just saying what I've seen. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 04:39, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

== Uh.... ==

...Why am I seeing Bidoof all over the main page? - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 01:06, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
:It's Canada day according to server time. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jel]][[User Talk:Jello|lo]] 01:07, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
::Why Bidoof? --[[User:Jonouchi|Jonouchi]] 01:14, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
:::Bidoof's a beaver and beavers are our national animal (or, at least, commonly associated with it. I can't remember which).--[[User:Skystar|Skystar]] 01:21, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
::::Could we perhaps get at least a few of those changed to Bibarel cause Bibarel looks like a beaver but Biddof is just a stupid gerbilley-beaver thing. Stantler might not hurt either...--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 03:28, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::Bidoof is fine. This layout is super cute! :) btw skystar it is defs the national animal --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 06:01, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Brock's Steelix

2010-06-30T21:37:23Z

Magikarp123193: /* In the anime */ correcting title

{{AnimePokémonInfobox|
type1=Steel|
type2=Ground|
trainername=Brock|
pokemonname=Steelix|
jtrainername=タケシ|
jpokemonname=ハガネール|
tmtrainername=Takeshi|
tmpokemonname=Haganeil|
image=[[Image:Brock's Steelix.png|220px]] |
caption=Brock's Steelix |
location=[[Pewter City]]|
evolution=1|
epnum=EP005|
numeps1=at least 403|
firststagename=Onix|
secondstagename=Steelix|
epname=Showdown in Pewter City|
firstevoep=AG177|
firstevoname=''Prior to'' Grating Spaces|
prevonum=095|
evo1num=208|
current=[[Pewter Gym]]|
java1=[[Unshō Ishizuka]]|
java2=[[Unshō Ishizuka]]|
}}
'''Brock's Steelix''' (Japanese: '''タケシのハガネール''' ''Takeshi's Haganeil'') was the first [[Pokémon]] acquired by {{an|Brock}} in the {{pkmn|anime}}, and is his main battling Pokémon in both the anime and games.

==In the anime==
[[File:Brock Onix.png|As an {{p|Onix}}, battling [[Ash's Pikachu]]|left|thumb]]
Its voice actor in both Japanese and English is 石塚運昇 ''[[Unshō Ishizuka]]''.

Brock received it as an Onix as a present from his father, {{ka|Flint}}, during his tenth birthday, as seen in a flashback in ''[[AG034|Having a Wailord of a Time!]]''.

Like most of Brock's Pokémon, Onix received very little screentime in comparison to the Pokémon of the other main characters. This may have been due to its massive size, although it did have an impressive battle against [[Iron-Masked Marauder]]'s {{p|Tyranitar}} in ''[[M04|Celebi: Voice of the Forest]]''. Its size was also used in several ways, such as a staircase in ''[[EP016|Pokémon Shipwreck]]''. Like most of Brock's pre-[[Hoenn]] Pokémon, Onix does not have a distinct personality.

Brock ended up giving Onix and two of his other Pokémon to his eldest sibling, [[Forrest]], who took on the role of [[Gym Leader]] at [[Pewter City]]. When Brock returned to the gym in ''[[AG177|Grating Spaces]]'', Onix had evolved into a Steelix under Forrest's care.

===Moves used===
{{anmu/h|Steel|Ground|9|align=center|move={{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 4}}|0|1=Iron Tail|2=DragonBreath|3=Bind}}|pic={{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 4}}|0|1=Steelix iron tail.png|2=SteelixDragonBreathLaunch.jpg|3=SteelixBind.jpg}}}}
{{anmu|Normal|Tackle|EP005|Showdown in Pewter City}}
{{anmu|Normal|Bind|EP005|Showdown in Pewter City|rec=yes}}
{{anmu|Ground|Dig|EP006|Clefairy and the Moon Stone}}
{{anmu|Rock|Rock Throw|EP050|Who Gets to Keep Togepi?}}
{{anmu|Rock|Sandstorm|EP259|Entei at Your Own Risk}}
{{anmu|Normal|Slam|SS001|A Family That Battles Together, Stays Together!}}
{{anmu|Steel|Iron Tail|AG177|Grating Spaces!|rec=yes}}
{{anmu|Dragon|DragonBreath|AG177|Grating Spaces!|rec=yes}}
{{anmu/f|ground|no|c=a}}

==In the games==
Steelix, in both of its forms, has appeared in every game that Brock has appeared in, and is Brock's main Pokémon in each of those games.

==={{game3|Red and Green|Pokémon Red, Green|s}} and {{game3|Red and Blue|Blue|s}}===
{{Pokémon|
gen=1|
ndex=095|
pokemon=Onix|
game=Red|
level=14|
type1=Rock|
type2=Ground|
move1=Tackle|
move1type=Normal|
move2=Screech|
move2type=Normal|
move3=Bide|
move3type=Normal|
move4=Bind|
move4type=Normal}}

==={{game|Yellow}}===
{{Pokémon|
gen=1|
ndex=095|
pokemon=Onix|
game=Yellow|
level=12|
type1=Rock|
type2=Ground|
move1=Tackle|
move1type=Normal|
move2=Screech|
move2type=Normal|
move3=Bide|
move3type=Normal|
move4=Bind|
move4type=Normal}}

==={{game2|Gold|Silver|Crystal}}===
{{Pokémon|
gen=2|
ndex=095|
pokemon=Onix|
game=Gold|
gender=male|
level=44|
type1=Rock|
type2=Ground|
move1=Bind|
move1type=Normal|
move2=Rock Slide|
move2type=Rock|
move3=Bide|
move3type=Normal|
move4=Sandstorm|
move4type=Rock}}

==={{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}}===
{{Pokémon|
gen=3|
ndex=095|
pokemon=Onix|
game=FireRed|
level=14|
type1=Rock|
type2=Ground|
gender=male|
ability=Rock Head|
move1=Tackle|
move1type=Normal|
move2=Bind|
move2type=Normal|
move3=Rock Tomb|
move3type=Rock}}

==={{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}===
====First battle====
{{Pokémon
|gen=4
|ndex=095
|pokemon=Onix
|game=HeartGold
|type1=Rock
|type2=Ground
|ability=Sturdy
|gender=male
|level=54
|held=Sitrus Berry
|move1=Rock Slide
|move1type=Rock
|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Iron Tail
|move2type=Steel
|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Sandstorm
|move3type=Rock
|move3cat=Status
|move4=Screech
|move4type=Normal
|move4cat=Status
}}

====Second battle====
{{Pokémon/4
|pokemon=Onix
|ndex=095
|level=61
|game=HeartGold
|gender=male
|type1=Rock
|type2=Ground
|held=Unknown
|ability=Unknown
|move1=Stealth Rock
|move1type=Rock
|move1cat=Status
|move2=Rock Slide
|move2type=Rock
|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Rock Polish
|move3type=Rock
|move3cat=Status
|move4=Sandstorm
|move4type=Rock
|move4cat=Status
}}

==={{eng|Pokémon Stadium}}===
====Round 1====
{{Pokémon|
gen=1|
ndex=095|
pokemon=Onix|
level=50|
type1=Rock|
type2=Ground|
move1=Bind|
move1type=Normal|
move2=Toxic|
move2type=Poison|
move3=Earthquake|
move3type=Ground|
move4=Rock Slide|
move4type=Rock}}

====Round 2====
{{Pokémon|
gen=1|
ndex=095|
pokemon=Onix|
level=50|
type1=Rock|
type2=Ground|
move1=Bind|
move1type=Normal|
move2=Rock Slide|
move2type=Rock|
move3=Earthquake|
move3type=Ground|
move4=Screech|
move4type=Normal}}

===[[Pokémon Stadium 2]]===
====Round 1====
{{Pokémon|
gen=2|
ndex=095|
pokemon=Onix|
gender=male|
level=50|
type1=Rock|
type2=Ground|
held=Quick Claw|
move1=Bide|
move1type=Normal|
move2=Strength|
move2type=Normal|
move3=Rock Throw|
move3type=Rock|
move4=Earthquake|
move4type=Ground}}

====Round 2====
{{Pokémon|
gen=2|
ndex=208|
pokemon=Steelix|
level=50|
type1=Steel|
type2=Ground|
held=Scope Lens|
move1=Fissure|
move1type=Ground|
move2=Return|
move2type=Normal|
move3=Earthquake|
move3type=Ground|
move4=Rock Slide|
move4type=Rock}}

==In the manga==
===In the Pokémon Adventures manga===
[[Image:VS_Onix.png|thumb|right|[[Brock]] with Onix in Pokémon Adventures.]]
In ''[[Pokémon Adventures]]'', {{adv|Red}} challenges [[Brock]]'s Onix during ''[[PS005|Onix is On!]]'' in a gym battle to gain the {{Badge|Boulder}}. Red uses [[Pika]] to battle, but it is still angry with Red for capturing it. Onix first uses {{m|Rock Throw}} at Pika, causing massive damage before proceeding to use its body like a torpedo to hit Pika with {{m|Skull Bash}}; Red pushes Pika out of the way. Trying again, Pikachu uses a powerful electric attack on Onix, breaking apart the rocks that its body is composed of.

Brock would later use Onix in an exhibition match against [[Jasmine]], where it was soundly defeated by her Steelix.

===In the Electric Tale of Pikachu manga===
Since ''[[Electric Tale of Pikachu]]'' is based on the anime, Onix appeared in this manga in {{Ash}} and [[Brock]]'s Gym battle in ''[[ET02|Play Misty For Me]]''. It lost the battle.

===In the Pokémon Pocket Monsters manga===
In ''[[Pokémon Pocket Monsters]]'', Brock's Onix appears in ''[[PM003|Take Out The Rival Onix]]'', in [[Isamu Akai]]'s battle with Brock.

===In the Pokémon Zensho manga===
In ''[[Pokémon Zensho]]'', {{Zensho|Satoshi}} battles Brock's Onix in ''[[PZ02|{{tt|Nibi|Pewter}} City]]''. Satoshi uses his {{Zensho|Satoshi's Charizard|Charmander}} in the battle, and tells it to chop the horn-like part of Onix's head off. Onix is then defeated, and Satoshi wins the battle.

==In the TCG==
Brock's Steelix was featured in the TCG multiple times. The following is a list of cards named '''Brock's Onix'''.
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{tcg fighting color}};"
!Name
!Type
!Level
!Rarity
!Set
!Set no.
|-
| {{TCG ID|Gym Heroes|Brock's Onix|21}} || rowspan=2 | {{e|Fighting}} || 30 || {{rar|Rare}} || rowspan=2 |{{TCG|Gym Heroes}} || 21/132
|-
| {{TCG ID|Gym Heroes|Brock's Onix|69}} || 41 || {{rar|Common}} || 69/132
|}

==Trivia==
[[File:BrockOnix.png|220px|thumb|Brock receiving Onix on his 10th birthday in the anime]]
* Steelix is the second {{type2|Steel}} Pokémon Brock has owned, the first being {{TP|Brock|Forretress}}.
* Onix took the longest of all Pokémon in the anime to evolve after its introduction, taking at least 403 episodes (in ''[[AG134|A Real Cleffa-Hanger]]'', Brock went to the Gym), and at most 446 episodes (in ''[[AG177|Grating Spaces]]'', Brock was surprised to see it) to become a Steelix.
* Steelix is the first Pokémon of [[Ash's friends]] to evolve off-screen. Others would later include {{an|May}}'s {{TP|May|Glaceon}}, {{TP|May| Venusaur}}, and {{TP|May|Wartortle}}.

==Related articles==
{{Animespeciesevo1|Onix|Steelix}}
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{{Brock's Pokémon|steel|ground}} 
{{Project Anime notice|no}}
[[Category:Brock's Pokémon|Steelix]]
[[Category:Anime starter Pokémon|Steelix, Brock's]]

[[pl:Steelix Brocka]]

[[de:Rockos Stahlos]]
[[fr:Steelix de Pierre]]
[[ja:タケシのハガネール]]

Talk:EP038

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EP163

2010-06-26T21:40:36Z

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{{EpicodePrevNext|
prevcode=EP162 |
prevtitle=Type Casting |
nextcode=EP164 |
nexttitle=Carrying On! |
series=Original series |
colorscheme=Johto | }}
{{EpisodeInfobox|
epcode=EP163 |
colorscheme=Johto |
title_en=Fossil Fools |
title_ja=こだいポケモンパーク！アルフのいせき！！ |
title_ja_trans=Ancient Pokémon Park! Ruins of Alph!! |
screen=yes |
broadcast_jp=September 7, 2000 |
broadcast_us=September 15, 2001 |
en_series=Johto League Champions |
en_op=[[Born to Be a Winner]] |
ja_op=[[OK!]] |
ja_ed=[[Exciting Pokémon Relay|ポケモンはらはらリレー]] |
olmteam=Team Ota |
scenario=冨岡淳広 |
storyboard=藤本義孝 |
director=鈴木敏明 |
art=志村泉 |
morecredits=no |
epstaffpage=EP161-EP170 |
footnotes= }}
'''Fossil Fools''' (Japanese: '''こだいポケモンパーク！アルフのいせき！！''' ''Ancient Pokémon Park! Ruins of Alph!!'') is the 163rd episode of the [[Pokémon anime]]. It was first broadcast in Japan on September 7, 2000 and in the United States on September 15, 2001.

{{spoilers}}
== Synopsis ==
{{Incomplete synopsis}}
{{ashfr|The group}} visits the [[Ruins of Alph]] where living {{p|Omanyte}} and {{p|Omastar}} have been discovered. Unfortunately, [[Team Rocket]] has also discovered them.

== Major events ==

{{animeevents}}
=== Debuts ===


== Characters ==
=== Humans ===
* {{Ash}}
* {{an|Brock}}
* {{an|Misty}}
* [[Jessie]]
* [[James]]
* [[Professor Oak]]
* [[Foster]]
* Researchers

=== Pokémon ===
[[Who's That Pokémon?]]: {{p|Pichu}} (''US and international''), [[Omanyte (Pokémon)|Omnite]] (''Japan'')
* {{p|Pikachu}} ({{OP|Ash|Pikachu}})
* {{p|Meowth}} ({{TRM}})
* {{p|Togepi}} ({{OP|Misty|Togepi}})
* {{p|Wobbuffet}} ({{OP|Jessie|Wobbuffet}})
* {{p|Noctowl}} ({{OP|Ash|Noctowl}})
* {{p|Arbok}} ({{OP|Jessie|Arbok}})
* {{p|Weezing}} ({{OP|James|Weezing}})
* {{p|Omanyte}}
* {{p|Omastar}}
* {{p|Aerodactyl}} (picture/fossil/robot)
* {{p|Kabutops}} (fossil)

== Trivia ==
* ''[[Exciting Pokémon Relay]]'' replaces ''[[Takeshi's Paradise]]'' as the ending.
* The [[Ruins of Alph]] in the games is entirely different and focuses on the {{p|Unown}}.
* Archaeology currently dates the first Pokémon at 2 million years ago, though a {{p|Kabutops}} fossil had been discovered that is 20 to 30 thousand years older than that.
* Like life on Earth, the prevailing theory is that Pokémon life began in the sea.
*The English title is a pun of fossil fuels.
*This is the first time Misty takes Brock by the ear.
=== Errors ===
=== Dub edits ===

==In other languages==
* Finnish: '''{{tt|Fossiili herää eloon|A fossil comes to life}}'''
* Dutch: '''{{tt|Fossielenjagers|Fossil Hunters}}'''
* French: '''{{tt|Retour vers la préhistoire|Return towards prehistory}}'''
* German: '''{{tt|Aufregende Entdeckungen|Exciting discoveries}}'''
* Hebrew: '''פוקימונים פרה-היסטורים''' ''{{tt|Pokémonim pre-historim|Prehistoric Pokémon}}''
* Italian: '''{{tt|Jurassic Pokémon|Jurassic Pokémon}}'''
* Mandarin: '''{{tt|古代神奇寶貝公園，阿露福遺跡|Ancient Pokémon Park, Ruins of Alph}}'''
* Portuguese (Brazilian): '''{{tt|O Parque dos Pokéssauros|The Pokessaur Park}}'''
* Spanish:
** Iberian Spanish: '''{{tt|Locos por los fósiles|Crazy for fossils}}'''
** Latin American Spanish: '''{{tt|¡Pokémon prehistóricos!|Prehistoric Pokémon!}}'''

{{stub|Anime|Episode}}
{{EpicodePrevNext|
prevcode=EP162 |
prevtitle=Type Casting |
nextcode=EP164 |
nexttitle=Carrying On |
series=Original series |
colorscheme=Johto |}}
{{Project Anime notice}}
[[Category:Original series episodes|163]]
[[Category:Episodes written by Atsuhiro Tomioka|163]]
[[Category:Episodes storyboarded by Yoshitaka Fujimoto|163]]
[[Category:Episodes directed by Toshiaki Suzuki|163]]
[[Category:Episodes animated by Izumi Shimura|163]]

[[de:Aufregende Entdeckungen (Episode)]]
[[fr:Épisode 163]]
[[ja:無印編第163話]]
[[pl:EP163]]
[[pt:EP163]]

Size discrepancies in the animated series

2010-06-25T14:19:59Z

Magikarp123193: /* Rapidash */ I can't believe nobody noticed this!

Aside from [[giant Pokémon]], many [[Pokémon]] in the [[Pokémon anime]] suffer from large '''size discrepancies''' between the information given in the [[Pokémon games]]' [[Pokédex]] and their actual animated presentation. These Pokémon are apparently "normal sized" as far as the anime's universe is concerned.

This may be a style or aesthetic decision, a case of the writers not checking the information in detail, or for story purposes.

Some of the most notable size discrepancies will be noted below.

==Articuno==
{{p|Articuno}} are about 5'07" (1m70), although in ''[[AG135|The Symbol Life]]'' it is looking to be more like 6'07" (2m).

==Bulbasaur==
{{p|Bulbasaur}} are about 2'04" (70cm), in a height like {{p|Buizel}} for example. But during the anime episodes it is definitely not this high. it is shown to be about 1'04 (40cm).

==Charizard and Blastoise==
{{p|Charizard}} are usually 5'7" (1m75) tall, but [[Ash's Charizard]] is slightly taller than that, at about 7'00 (2m10) tall. Ironically enough, it is shown in ''[[EP134|Charizard's Burning Ambition]]'' that Ash's Charizard is rather small when compared with other Charizard. {{p|Blastoise}} are also taller than what they should be. They are normally 5'03" (1m60) tall, but in all of their appearances in the anime - they appear closer to 6'03" (1m90).

==Croagunk==
{{p|Croagunk}} are generally 2'04" (70cm) in height, but in the anime it is looking to be more like 1'04" (40cm).

==Dunsparce==
{{p|Dunsparce}} are normally 4'11" (1m30) in height, approximately the height of {{Ash}}. In ''[[DP001|Following a Maiden's Voyage!]]'', they appear to be shorter than a {{p|Pidgey}}.

==Electrode==
{{p|Electrode}} are normally 3'11" (1m20), but in ''[[AG041|What You Seed is What You Get!]]'' it is seen in the same height like {{p|Slugma}}, in 2'04" (70cm).

==Floatzel==
{{p|Floatzel}} are generally 3'07" (1m10) in height, but in ''[[DP083|A Crasher Course in Power!]]'' , when it was standing in front of {{p|Buizel}} in was shown to be about 4'03" (1m30).

==Forretress==
{{p|Forretress}} are about 3'11" (1m20), but in all of its appearances in the anime, it is shown to be 1'08" (50cm).

==Gabite==
{{p|Gabite}} are normally 4'07" (1m40) in height, but [[Ursula]]'s Gabite from ''[[DP114|Another One Gabites the Dust!]]'' was at least a couple inches taller than Ash, Dawn, and Ursula, who are about 5'0" (1m50) tall.

==Gengar==
{{p|Gengar}} are shown to be 4'11" (1m50), but in all of its appearances in the anime, it is shown to be 3'07" (1m10).

==Golduck==
{{p|Golduck}} are about 5'07" (1m70), although in ''[[DP007|Like It or Lup It!]]'' when it was standing near {{p|Ludicolo}}, it was shown to be about 3'03" (1m).

==Glalie==
{{p|Glalie}} are shown to be 4'11" (1m50). [[Ash's Glalie]] is extremely small for compared to others of its species. Its size appears to be closer to 2'00" (60cm).

==Grovyle and Combusken==
While normally {{p|Grovyle}} and {{p|Combusken}} are about 2'11" (90cm), [[Ash's Grovyle]] and [[May's Combusken]] appears to be much larger, being almost as tall as Ash and May. Assuming that {{Ash}} is about 5' (1m50), that estimates Grovyle and Combusken to be around 4'0" (1m20). The other Grovyle that have appeared were around this size as well.

==Hariyama==
{{p|Hariyama}} are shown to be 7'07" (2m30). However, [[Brawly's Hariyama]] is extremely small for its species. In ''[[AG020|Brave The Wave!]]'', it appears to be around 4'11" (1m50).

==Lombre==
{{p|Lombre}} are shown to be 3'11" (1m20). [[Brock's Lombre]] appears to be shorter than that height, and looking to be more around 2'07 (80cm).

==Metagross==
{{p|Metagross}} are normally 5'03" (1m60), but {{ho|Tyson}}'s seems shorter than this in ''[[AG130|Choose It or Lose It!]]''. It's shown more likely 2'11" (90cm). Another Metagross appeared in ''[[DP117|Noodles Roaming Off!]]'' and shown to be higher even than [[James]], about 6'03" (1m90).

==Noctowl==
{{p|Noctowl}} are about 5'3" (1m60), approaching average human height. [[Ash's Noctowl]], however, is extremely small for that size, looking to be more around 2'00 (60cm). Although it's been mentioned that Ash's Noctowl is unusually small, the other two Noctowl that have appeared in the anime don't seem to be more than 4' tall.

==Nosepass==
{{p|Nosepass}} are normally 3'3" (1m) in height. However, in the episode Nosepass debuted in, Nosepass is far bigger than it is supposed to be, at about 5'6" (1m70) compared to the normal Nosepass.

==Pidgeotto==
{{p|Pidgeotto}} are normally 3'07" (1m10), although during the series it appears to be only 2'04" (70cm).

==Rapidash==
{{p|Rapidash}} are normally {{tt|5'07"|1.7 meters}}. However, in Ash's flashback in ''[[DP138|Strategy Begins at Home!]]'', it was shown to be about {{tt|3'03"|1 meter}} tall, about the size of a {{p|Ponyta}}.

==Roselia==
One of the more renowned changes in size is in {{p|Roselia}}, which are extremely small - only about a foot (30cm) tall. However, the {{TP|Drew|Roselia}} in the anime come up to a [[Drew|10-year old's]] waist. An estimate would put the anime incarnation of them at about 3' (90cm) tall. This caused much confusion when [[Pokémon Colosseum]] and [[Pokémon Adventures]] both featured the Pokémon at its actual smaller size.

==Seviper==
[[Jessie's Seviper]] appears to change sizes during the series, sometimes even in the same episode. For example, when it made its debut, it was shorter than [[Jessie]]. However, it has also been shown as being taller than her, which according to the Pokédex it should be.

==Smeargle==
{{p|Smeargle}} are about 3'11" (1m20), although in ''[[EP197|Art of Pokémon]]'' it is shown to be 2'04" (70cm).

==Wailmer==
{{p|Wailmer}} are generally 6'07" (1m85) in height, although the one in ''[[DP109|Leading a Stray!]]'' was shown to be more than twice the size of Ash, who is approximately 5'0" (1m50) tall.

==Whismur==
{{p|Whismur}} are very small Pokémon at around 2'00" (60cm). In ''[[AG039|A Pokéblock Party!]]'', a Whismur was around the size of 1'00" (30cm), and was noticeably not much larger than [[Max]]'s head. A second Whismur appeared in ''[[AG188|Pinch Healing!]]'' and, while standing, came up to Max's neck.

== Related articles ==
*[[Giant Pokémon]]

[[Category:Anime]]
[[Category:Variant Pokémon]]

Misty

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Magikarp123193: /* In the games */ You forgot Lyra

{{CharInfobox|
color={{water color}} |
corecolor={{water color light}} |
bordercolor={{water color dark}} |
name=Misty |
jname=カスミ |
tmname=Kasumi |
slogan=yes |
sloganline=The Tomboyish Mermaid! |
image=HeartGold SoulSilver Misty.png |
size=150px |
caption=Art from ''Pokémon HeartGold'' and ''SoulSilver'' |
age=yes |
years=10 (as of [[EP003]], not stated in dub) 12 ([[Electric Tale of Pikachu]]) |
colors=yes|
eyes=Blue (In some episodes is green) |
hair=Orange|
gender=Female |
hometown=[[Cerulean City]] |
region=[[Kanto]] |
relatives={{an|Daisy}}, {{ka|Lily}}, [[Violet]] (anime only)|
trainer=yes |
trainerclass=[[Gym Leader]] |
game=yes |
generation={{Gen|I}}, {{Gen|II}}, {{Gen|III}}, {{Gen|IV}} |
games=[[Pokémon Red and Blue Versions|Red, Blue]], {{v2|Yellow}}, [[Pokémon Gold and Silver Versions|Gold, Silver]], {{v2|Crystal}}, [[Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen Versions|FireRed, LeafGreen]], [[Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions|HeartGold, SoulSilver]], {{eng|Pokémon Stadium|Stadium}}, {{pkmn|Stadium 2}} |
leader=yes |
gym=Cerulean Gym |
specialist=yes |
type={{type2|Water}}s |
badge=Cascade Badge |
anime=yes |
epnum=EP001 |
epname=Pokémon - I Choose You! |
enva=[[Rachael Lillis]] ([[4Kids Entertainment|4Kids]]) [[Michele Knotz]] ({{PUSA}}) |
java=[[Mayumi Iizuka]] |
}}
'''Misty''' (Japanese: '''カスミ''' ''Kasumi'') is a [[Gym Leader]] of [[Cerulean City]]'s {{pkmn|Gym}}, known officially as the [[Cerulean Gym]]. She hands out the {{Badge|Cascade}} to {{pkmn|Trainer}}s who defeat her. She specializes in {{type2|Water}} [[Pokémon]].

==In the games==
[[Image:Sugimorimistyoriginal.png|thumb|left|Art of Misty from Pokémon Red and Blue Versions]]
[[File:Misty RGBY.png|thumb|right|Full art of Misty from Generation I]]
[[Image:FireRed LeafGreen Misty.png|thumb|right|Artwork from FireRed and LeafGreen]]
Misty's title is "The Tomboyish Mermaid." Her strategy is an all-out attack with Water-type Pokémon.

Misty is constantly looking for ways to improve her technique. A swimmer herself, she trains at the [[Seafoam Islands]]. As Misty becomes a stronger Trainer, she becomes the only one in her town who can defeat the Trainers at [[Route 25|Cerulean's cape]].

It is said that Misty has high hopes for the north cape, a romantic date spot. In later years, she is seen there with an unidentified boyfriend. She dislikes pests who bother her when she's on a date.

Misty worships [[Lorelei]] of the [[Elite Four]]. It's Misty's dream to travel one day. She wishes to meet many strong Trainers, such as {{ga|Ethan}}/{{ga|Kris}}/{{ga|Lyra}} from [[Johto]] who defeats her in battle.

In addition to the Cascade Badge, Misty gives out {{TM|11|BubbleBeam}} in [[Pokémon Red and Green Versions|Green]], {{3v2|Red|Blue|Yellow}}. In {{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}}, she gives out {{TM|03|Water Pulse}}. In {{game2|Gold|Silver|Crystal}}, she doesn't give out a [[TM]], but in its remakes {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}} she gives out {{TM|03|Water Pulse}} again.

In {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}, if the player wants to rebattle her, the player must go to {{rt|25}} between 4:00 PM and 6:00 PM on any day, after {{p|Suicune}} is captured or defeated. She can be found right at the end of Cerulean Cape, staring out into sea. Then, on Wednesday mornings, she can be called to arrange a rematch.

===Fame Checker===
This is a list of the [[Fame Checker]]’s information on Misty in ''{{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}}''.
;Cerulean City - sign
*What does this person do?
:"<sc>Cerulean City Pok</sc>é<sc>mon Gym</sc>
:<sc>Leader: Misty</sc>
:The Tomboyish Mermaid!"
;Cerulean Gym - Misty
*Favorite kind of <sc>Pok</sc>é<sc>mon</sc>?
:"My policy is an all-out offensive with <sc>Water</sc>-type <sc>Pok</sc>é<sc>mon</sc>!"
;Cerulean Gym - [[Swimmer]]♂ Luis
*What is this person like?
:"<sc>Misty</sc> is a <sc>Trainer</sc> who’s going to keep improving.
:She won’t lose to someone like you!"
;[[Seafoam Islands]] - young man
*There’s a rumor...
:"Strong <sc>Trainers</sc> and <sc>Water Pok</sc>é<sc>mon</sc> are common sights in these parts.
:They say that <sc>Misty</sc> of the <sc>Cerulean Gym</sc> trains here."
;[[Cerulean Cape]] - dame
*There’s a rumor...
:"This cape is a famous date spot.
:<sc>Misty</sc>, the <sc>Gym Leader</sc>, has high hopes about this place."
;Cerulean City - [[Pokémon Journal]]
*There’s a rumor...
:"<sc>Misty</sc> is said to worship <sc>[[Lorelei]]</sc> of the <sc>[[Elite Four]]</sc>."
;Message from <sc>Misty</sc>
*From: <sc>Misty</sc>
*To: [Player]
:I’m going to keep training here at this <sc>Gym</sc>.
:When I get better, I’d love to hit the road and travel."

===Pokémon===
This is a listing of Misty's Pokémon in the video games in which she has appeared.
===={{game3|Red and Blue|Pokémon Red, Blue|s}} and {{game3|Red and Green|Green|s}}====
{{Party|color={{water color}}|headcolor={{water color light}}|bordercolor={{water color dark}}|
sprite=Misty_Blue.PNG|
prize={{pdollar}}2079|
class=[[Leader]]|
name=Misty|
game={{3v2|Red|Green|Blue}}|
location=[[Cerulean Gym]]|
pokemon=2|
pokemon1={{Pokémon|gen=1|game=Red|
ndex=120|
pokemon=Staryu|
level=18|
type1=Water|
move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal|
move2=Water Gun|move2type=Water}}|
pokemon2={{Pokémon|gen=1|game=Red|
ndex=121|
pokemon=Starmie|
level=21|
type1=Water|type2=Psychic|
move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal|
move2=Water Gun|move2type=Water|
move3=Harden|move3type=Normal|
move4=BubbleBeam|move4type=Water}}
}}

===={{game|Yellow}}====
{{Party|color={{water color}}|headcolor={{water color light}}|bordercolor={{water color dark}}|
sprite=Y_Misty.png|
prize={{pdollar}}2079|
class=[[Leader]]|
name=Misty|
game={{v2|Yellow}}|
location=[[Cerulean Gym]]|
pokemon=2|
pokemon1={{Pokémon|gen=1|game=Yellow|
ndex=120|
pokemon=Staryu|
level=18|
type1=Water|
move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal|
move2=Water Gun|move2type=Water}}|
pokemon2={{Pokémon|gen=1|game=Yellow|
ndex=121|
pokemon=Starmie|
level=21|
type1=Water|type2=Psychic|
move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal|
move2=Water Gun|move2type=Water|
move3=Harden|move3type=Normal|
move4=BubbleBeam|move4type=Water}}
}}

===={{game2|Gold|Silver|Crystal}}====
{{Party|color={{water color}}|headcolor={{water color light}}|bordercolor={{water color dark}}|
sprite=Misty_02.png|
prize={{pdollar}}4700|
class=[[Leader]]|
name=Misty|
game={{3v2|Gold|Silver|Crystal}}|
location=[[Cerulean Gym]]|
pokemon=4|
pokemon1={{Pokémon|gen=2|game=Gold|
ndex=055|
pokemon=Golduck|
gender=female|
level=42|
type1=Water|
move1=Surf|move1type=Water|
move2=Disable|move2type=Normal|
move3=Psych Up|move3type=Normal|
move4=Psychic|move4type=Psychic}}|
pokemon2={{Pokémon|gen=2|game=Gold|
ndex=195|
pokemon=Quagsire|
gender=female|
level=42|
type1=Water|type2=Ground|
move1=Surf|move1type=Water|
move2=Amnesia|move2type=Psychic|
move3=Earthquake|move3type=Ground|
move4=Rain Dance|move4type=Water}}|
pokemon3={{Pokémon|gen=2|game=Gold|
ndex=131|
pokemon=Lapras|
gender=female|
level=44|
type1=Water|type2=Ice|
move1=Surf|move1type=Water|
move2=Perish Song|move2type=Normal|
move3=Blizzard|move3type=Ice|
move4=Rain Dance|move4type=Water}}|
pokemon4={{Pokémon|gen=2|game=Gold|
ndex=121|
pokemon=Starmie|
level=47|
type1=Water|type2=Psychic|
move1=Surf|move1type=Water|
move2=Confuse Ray|move2type=Ghost|
move3=Recover|move3type=Normal|
move4=Ice Beam|move4type=Ice}}
}}

===={{game|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}}====
{{Party|color={{water color}}|headcolor={{water color light}}|bordercolor={{water color dark}}|
sprite=SpriteMisty.png|
prize={{pdollar}}2100|
class=[[Leader]]|
name=Misty|
game={{2v2|FireRed|LeafGreen}}|
location=[[Cerulean Gym]]|
pokemon=2|
pokemon1={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=FireRed|
ndex=120|
pokemon=Staryu|
level=18|
ability=Natural Cure|
type1=Water|
move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal|
move2=Harden|move2type=Normal|
move3=Recover|move3type=Normal|
move4=Water Pulse|move4type=Water}}|
pokemon2={{Pokémon|gen=3|game=FireRed|
ndex=121|
pokemon=Starmie|
level=21|
ability=Natural Cure|
type1=Water|
type2=Psychic|
move1=Rapid Spin|move1type=Normal|
move2=Swift|move2type=Normal|
move3=Recover|move3type=Normal|
move4=Water Pulse|move4type=Water}}
}}

===={{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}====
=====Gym match=====
{{Party
|color={{water color}}
|bordercolor={{water color dark}}
|headcolor={{water color light}}
|sprite=MistyHGSS.gif
|prize={{pdollar}}6480
|class=[[Leader]]
|name=Misty
|game={{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}
|location=[[Cerulean Gym]]
|pokemon=4

|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|ndex=055
|pokemon=Golduck
|game=HeartGold
|gender=female
|type1=Water
|ability=Damp
|level=49
|move1=Water Pulse|move1type=Water|move1cat=Special
|move2=Disable|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status
|move3=Psychic|move3type=Psychic|move3cat=Special
|move4=Psych Up|move4type=Normal|move4cat=Status
}}

|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|ndex=195
|pokemon=Quagsire
|game=HeartGold
|gender=female
|spritegender=female
|type1=Water|type2=Ground
|ability=Water Absorb
|level=49
|move1=Water Pulse|move1type=Water|move1cat=Special
|move2=Amnesia|move2type=Psychic|move2cat=Status
|move3=Rain Dance|move3type=Water|move3cat=Status
|move4=Earthquake|move4type=Ground|move4cat=Physical}}

|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|ndex=131
|pokemon=Lapras
|game=HeartGold
|gender=female
|type1=Water|type2=Ice
|ability=Shell Armor
|level=52
|move1=Ice Beam|move1type=Ice|move1cat=Special
|move2=Sing|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status
|move3=Water Pulse|move3type=Water|move3cat=Special
|move4=Body Slam|move4type=Normal|move4cat=Physical}}

|pokemon4={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|ndex=121
|pokemon=Starmie
|game=HeartGold
|gender=none
|type1=Water|type2=Psychic
|ability=Natural Cure
|level=54
|held=Sitrus Berry
|move1=Water Pulse|move1type=Water|move1cat=Special
|move2=Confuse Ray|move2type=Ghost|move2cat=Status
|move3=Ice Beam|move3type=Ice|move3cat=Special
|move4=Recover|move4type=Normal|move4cat=Status}}
}}

=====Second battle ([[Rematch]])=====
{{Party|color={{water color}}|bordercolor={{water color dark}}|headcolor={{water color light}}
|sprite=MistyHGSS.gif
|prize={{pdollar}}7200
|class=[[Leader]]
|name=[[Misty]]
|game={{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}
|location=[[Fighting Dojo]]
|pokemon=6

|pokemon1={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=SoulSilver
|ndex=121
|pokemon=Starmie
|level=60
|type1=Water
|type2=Psychic
|held=Colbur Berry
|ability=Natural Cure
|move1=Thunderbolt
|move1type=Electric
|move1cat=Special
|move2=Ice Beam
|move2type=Ice
|move2cat=Special
|move3=Psychic
|move3type=Psychic
|move3cat=Special
|move4=Surf
|move4type=Water
|move4cat=Special}}

|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=HeartGold
|ndex=195
|pokemon=Quagsire
|gender=female
|spritegender=female
|level=56
|type1=Water
|type2=Ground
|ability=Water Absorb
|move1=Rain Dance
|move1type=Water
|move1cat=Status
|move2=Amnesia
|move2type=Psychic
|move2cat=Status
|move3=Water Pulse
|move3type=Water
|move3cat=Special
|move4=Earthquake
|move4type=Ground
|move4cat=Physical}}

|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=SoulSilver
|ndex=131
|pokemon=Lapras
|gender=female
|level=56
|type1=Water
|type2=Ice
|ability=Shell Armor
|move1=Rain Dance
|move1type=Water
|move1cat=Status
|move2=Perish Song
|move2type=Normal
|move2cat=Status
|move3=Blizzard
|move3type=Ice
|move3cat=Special
|move4=Surf
|move4type=Water
|move4cat=Special}}

|pokemon4={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=HeartGold
|ndex=171
|pokemon=Lanturn
|gender=female
|level=54
|type1=Water
|type2=Electric
|ability=Illuminate
|move1=Thunderbolt
|move1type=Electric
|move1cat=Special
|move2=Thunder Wave
|move2type=Electric
|move2cat=Status
|move3=Confuse Ray
|move3type=Ghost
|move3cat=Status
|move4=Surf
|move4type=Water
|move4cat=Special}}

|pokemon5={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Platinum
|ndex=419 m
|pokemon=Floatzel
|gender=female
|level=54
|type1=Water
|ability=Swift Swim
|move1=Agility
|move1type=Psychic
|move1cat=Status
|move2=Waterfall
|move2type=Water
|move2cat=Physical
|move3=Ice Fang
|move3type=Ice
|move3cat=Physical
|move4=Baton Pass
|move4type=Normal
|move4cat=Status}}

|pokemon6={{Pokémon
|gen=4
|game=Platinum
|ndex=350 f
|pokemon=Milotic
|gender=female
|level=60
|type1=Water
|ability=Marvel Scale
|move1=Hydro Pump
|move1type=Water
|move1cat=Special
|move2=Ice Beam
|move2type=Ice
|move2cat=Special
|move3=Rest
|move3type=Psychic
|move3cat=Status
|move4=Sleep Talk
|move4type=Normal
|move4cat=Status}}
}}

===={{eng|Pokémon Stadium}}====
=====Round 1=====
{{Party|color={{water color}}|headcolor={{water color light}}|bordercolor={{water color dark}}|
sprite=Misty_Stadium.png{{!}}55px|
prize=None|
class=[[Leader]]|
name=Misty|
game=Round 1|
location=[[Cerulean Gym]]|
pokemon=6|
pokemon1={{Pokémon|gen=1|ndex=121|pokemon=Starmie|level=50|type1=Water|type2=Psychic|move1=Thunder|move1type=Electric|move2=Swift|move2type=Normal|move3=BubbleBeam|move3type=Water|move4=Thunder Wave|move4type=Electric}}|
pokemon2={{Pokémon|gen=1|ndex=116|pokemon=Horsea|level=50|type1=Water|move1=SmokeScreen|move1type=Normal|move2=Surf|move2type=Water|move3=Toxic|move3type=Poison|move4=Ice Beam|move4type=Ice}}|
pokemon3={{Pokémon|gen=1|ndex=054|pokemon=Psyduck|level=50|type1=Water|move1=Disable|move1type=Normal|move2=Confusion|move2type=Psychic|move3=Fury Swipes|move3type=Normal|move4=Body Slam|move4type=Normal}}|
pokemon4={{Pokémon|gen=1|ndex=009|pokemon=Blastoise|level=50|type1=Water|move1=Hydro Pump|move1type=Water|move2=Bite|move2type=Normal|move3=Dig|move3type=Ground|move4=Seismic Toss|move4type=Fighting}}|
pokemon5={{Pokémon|gen=1|ndex=120|pokemon=Staryu|level=50|type1=Water|move1=Recover|move1type=Normal|move2=Minimize|move2type=Normal|move3=Thunderbolt|move3type=Electric|move4=Psychic|move4type=Psychic}}|
pokemon6={{Pokémon|gen=1|ndex=086|pokemon=Seel|level=50|type1=Water|move1=Blizzard|move1type=Ice|move2=Rest|move2type=Psychic|move3=Take Down|move3type=Normal|move4=Surf|move4type=Water}}
}}

=====Round 2=====
{{Party|color={{water color}}|headcolor={{water color light}}|bordercolor={{water color dark}}|
sprite=Misty_Stadium.png{{!}}55px|
prize=None|
class=[[Leader]]|
name=Misty|
game=Round 2|
location=[[Cerulean Gym]]|
pokemon=6|
pokemon1={{Pokémon|gen=1|ndex=121|pokemon=Starmie|level=50|type1=Water|type2=Psychic|move1=Recover|move1type=Normal|move2=Psychic|move2type=Psychic|move3=Hydro Pump|move3type=Water|move4=Thunder Wave|move4type=Electric}}|
pokemon2={{Pokémon|gen=1|ndex=103|pokemon=Exeggutor|level=50|type1=Grass|type2=Psychic|move1=Mega Drain|move1type=Grass|move2=Psychic|move2type=Psychic|move3=Explosion|move3type=Normal|move4=Reflect|move4type=Psychic}}|
pokemon3={{Pokémon|gen=1|ndex=117|pokemon=Seadra|level=50|type1=Water|move1=SmokeScreen|move1type=Normal|move2=Surf|move2type=Water|move3=Toxic|move3type=Poison|move4=Ice Beam|move4type=Ice}}|
pokemon4={{Pokémon|gen=1|ndex=051|pokemon=Dugtrio|level=50|type1=Ground|move1=Earthquake|move1type=Ground|move2=Slash|move2type=Normal|move3=Fissure|move3type=Ground|move4=Rock Slide|move4type=Rock}}|
pokemon5={{Pokémon|gen=1|ndex=009|pokemon=Blastoise|level=50|type1=Water|move1=Hydro Pump|move1type=Water|move2=Bite|move2type=Normal|move3=Dig|move3type=Ground|move4=Seismic Toss|move4type=Fighting}}|
pokemon6={{Pokémon|gen=1|ndex=087|pokemon=Dewgong|level=50|type1=Water|type2=Ice|move1=Aurora Beam|move1type=Ice|move2=Rest|move2type=Psychic|move3=Surf|move3type=Water|move4=Take Down|move4type=Normal}}
}}

====[[Pokémon Stadium 2]]====
=====Round 1=====
{{Party|color={{water color}}|headcolor={{water color light}}|bordercolor={{water color dark}}|
sprite=S2_Leader_Misty.png|
prize=None|
class=[[Leader]]|
name=Misty|
game=Round 1|
location=[[Cerulean Gym]]|
pokemon=6|
pokemon1={{Pokémon|gen=2|ndex=121|pokemon=Starmie|level=50|type1=Water|type2=Psychic|held=King's Rock|move1=Rain Dance|move1type=Water|move2=Surf|move2type=Water|move3=Thunder|move3type=Electric|move4=Psychic|move4type=Psychic}}|
pokemon2={{Pokémon|gen=2|ndex=061|pokemon=Poliwhirl|gender=female|level=50|type1=Water|held=Focus Band|move1=Rain Dance|move1type=Water|move2=Earthquake|move2type=Ground|move3=Hydro Pump|move3type=Water|move4=Body Slam|move4type=Normal}}|
pokemon3={{Pokémon|gen=2|ndex=055|pokemon=Golduck|gender=male|level=50|type1=Water|held=Miracle Berry|move1=Rain Dance|move1type=Water|move2=Dig|move2type=Ground|move3=Return|move3type=Normal|move4=Hydro Pump|move4type=Water}}|
pokemon4={{Pokémon|gen=2|ndex=176|pokemon=Togetic|gender=male|level=50|type1=Normal|type2=Flying|held=PRZCureBerry|move1=Rain Dance|move1type=Water|move2=Encore|move2type=Normal|move3=Metronome|move3type=Normal|move4=Double-Edge|move4type=Normal}}|
pokemon5={{Pokémon|gen=2|ndex=192|pokemon=Sunflora|gender=female|level=50|type1=Grass|held=Scope Lens|move1=Cut|move1type=Normal|move2=Mega Drain|move2type=Grass|move3=Razor Leaf|move3type=Grass|move4=Sludge Bomb|move4type=Poison}}|
pokemon6={{Pokémon|gen=2|ndex=195|pokemon=Quagsire|gender=female|level=50|type1=Water|type2=Ground|held=Quick Claw|move1=Rain Dance|move1type=Water|move2=Surf|move2type=Water|move3=Strength|move3type=Normal|move4=Earthquake|move4type=Ground}}
}}

=====Round 2=====
{{Party|color={{water color}}|headcolor={{water color light}}|bordercolor={{water color dark}}|
sprite=S2_Leader_Misty.png|
prize=None|
class=[[Leader]]|
name=Misty|
game=Round 2|
location=[[Cerulean Gym]]|
pokemon=6|
pokemon1={{Pokémon|gen=2|ndex=121|pokemon=Starmie|level=50|type1=Water|type2=Psychic|held=King's Rock|move1=Rain Dance|move1type=Water|move2=Surf|move2type=Water|move3=Thunder|move3type=Electric|move4=Psychic|move4type=Psychic}}|
pokemon2={{Pokémon|gen=2|ndex=040|pokemon=Wigglytuff|level=50|type1=Normal|held=Quick Claw|move1=Rain Dance|move1type=Water|move2=Ice Beam|move2type=Ice|move3=Body Slam|move3type=Normal|move4=Double-Edge|move4type=Normal}}|
pokemon3={{Pokémon|gen=2|ndex=031|pokemon=Nidoqueen|level=50|type1=Poison|type2=Ground|held=Scope Lens|move1=Rain Dance|move1type=Water|move2=Thunder|move2type=Electric|move3=Earthquake|move3type=Ground|move4=Surf|move4type=Water}}|
pokemon4={{Pokémon|gen=2|ndex=148|pokemon=Dragonair|level=50|type1=Dragon|held=Bitter Berry|move1=Rain Dance|move1type=Water|move2=Surf|move2type=Water|move3=Thunder|move3type=Electric|move4=Ice Beam|move4type=Ice}}|
pokemon5={{Pokémon|gen=2|ndex=181|pokemon=Ampharos|level=50|type1=Electric|held=Bright Powder|move1=Rain Dance|move1type=Water|move2=Thunder|move2type=Electric|move3=Reflect|move3type=Psychic|move4=Light Screen|move4type=Psychic}}|
pokemon6={{Pokémon|gen=2|ndex=186|pokemon=Politoed|level=50|type1=Water|held=Focus Band|move1=Rain Dance|move1type=Water|move2=Surf|move2type=Water|move3=Ice Beam|move3type=Ice|move4=Earthquake|move4type=Ground}}
}}

===Quotes===
{| align=right border="1" style="border: 1px solid #000; border-collapse: collapse;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- align=center
| [[Image:Misty_Blue.PNG]]
| [[Image:Y_Misty.png]]
| [[Image:Misty_02.png]]
|- align=center style="font-size: 80%;"
| Misty's sprite from [[Generation I]]
| Misty's sprite from {{game|Yellow}}
| Misty's sprite from [[Generation II]]
|- align=center
| [[Image:SpriteMisty.png]]
| [[Image:MistyHGSS.gif]]
| [[Image:VSMisty.png]]
|- align=center style="font-size: 80%;"
| Misty's sprite from [[Generation III]]
| Misty's sprite from [[Generation IV]]
| Misty's VS sprite from [[Generation IV]]
|- align=center
| [[Image:Misty Stadium.png]]
| [[Image:S2_Leader_Misty.png]]
|- align=center style="font-size: 80%;"
|Misty's artwork from [[Pokémon Stadium (English)|Pokémon Stadium]]
|Misty's artwork from [[Pokémon Stadium 2]]
|}
====Pokémon Red and Blue====
''"Hi, you're a new face! Trainers who want to turn pro have to have a policy about Pokémon! What is your approach when you catch Pokémon? My policy is an all-out offensive with water-type Pokémon!"''

''"Wow! You're too much! All right! You can have the Cascade Badge to show you beat me!"''

====Pokémon Yellow====
''"Hi, you're a new face! What's your policy on Pokémon? What is your approach? My policy is an all-out offensive with water-type Pokémon! Misty, the world-famous beauty, is your host! Are you ready, sweetie?"''

''"I can't believe I lost! All right! You can have the Cascade Badge to show you beat me!"''

====Pokémon Gold and Silver====
''"I was expecting you, you pest! You may have a lot of Johto Gym Badges, but you'd better not take me too lightly. My Water-type Pokémon are tough!"''

''"You really are good... I'll admit that you are skilled... Here you go. It's Cascade Badge."''

''"Are there many strong trainers in Johto? Like you, I mean. I'm going to travel one day, I can battle some skilled trainers."''

====Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen====
''"Hi, you're a new face! Only those Trainers who have a policy about Pokémon can turn pro. What is your approach when you catch and train Pokémon? My policy is an all out offensive with Water Pokémon!"''

''"Wow! You're too much, all right! You can have the Cascade Badge to show that you beat me."''

====Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver====
'''Cerulean Gym'''
*Before battle
:''"I was expecting you, you pest! You may have a lot of Johto Gym Badges, but you'd better not take me too lightly. My Water-type Pokémon are tough!"''

*After sending out last Pokémon
:''"Hmm... You're pretty good..."''

*During battle
:''"Looks like you're not just someone who gets in the way..."''

*When defeated
:''"Looks like this is it..."''

*After being defeated
:''"You really are good... I'll admit that you are skilled... Here you go. It's the Cascade Badge."''

:''"Here is another memento from this battle. Take it!"''

:''"It contains the move {{m|Water Pulse}}. It can sometimes confuse your foe. You've managed to defeat Trainers all the way from Johto. I'm sure you have a good use for it."''

*Obtaining PokéGear Phone number
:''"I love the sunset here! It gives me courage to go on, you know? Right! Why don't we exchange numbers?"''

:''"That's a shame!"''

:''"So do you want to know my number?"''

:''"Give me a call on Wednesday morning if you want another battle with me!"''

*Before rematch
:''"So here you are… Don’t make me wait! I’ve heard a lot of good things about you since our last battle. Let me test how good you are!"''

*After the rematch
:''"Wow! You are getting stronger by the battle!"''

'''PokéGear Phone'''
:''"Hi... Oh, hi there. What’s happening? Everything’s good with me. I’m really sorry, but I’ve got a lot going on... I’m pretty busy lately... Well, Wednesday mornings I’ve got some free time. Want to try calling then?"''

:Wednesday morning:
:''"Hi... Oh, hi there. What’s happening? Everything’s good with me. Oh hi, I’m free today! Let’s battle again, OK?"''
::No: ''"Aw... That makes me sad..."''
:''"OK! So, I’ll see you at the Fighting Dojo in Saffron City, then!"''

:''"Hi... Oh, hi there. What’s happening? Everything’s good with me. I’m waiting at the Fighting Dojo in Saffron City. If you stand me up, I’m going to be sad."''

:''"Could you repeat that? I can’t hear you at all. A bad connection, I guess. Please move along and call again!"''

==In the anime==
{{main|Misty (anime)}}

Misty is a {{ashfr|friend}} and former traveling partner of the anime's main character, [[Ash Ketchum]]. After he stole her bike and proceeded to accidentally destroy it in ''[[EP001|Pokémon - I Choose You!]]'', Misty followed him around the [[Kanto]] region, [[Orange Archipelago]], and [[Johto]] region, using the time she spent with him to further her goal of being the greatest Water Pokémon Trainer.

At the end of the [[original series]], Misty's bike was returned, repaired, by the [[Nurse Joy]] of [[Viridian City]], and as [[the Sensational Sisters|her sisters]] were leaving on a world tour, Misty would have to stay at the Cerulean Gym as its leader in order to keep it open.

Despite this drawback, she still visits Ash from time to time, meeting up with him during the Mirage Kingdom and Battle Frontier arcs of the {{series|Advanced Generation}}.

==In the manga==
===Pokémon Adventures===
[[Image:Misty and Brock.png|right|thumb|Misty with her {{p|Starmie}} and Brock with his {{p|Geodude}}]]
Misty is a Water Pokémon Gym Leader from Cerulean City. She debuts in the {{chap|Red, Green & Blue}} in ''[[PS006|Gyarados Splashes In!]]'' when {{adv|Red}} saves her from her enraged Gyarados, which has been experimented on by [[Team Rocket]]. After they recapture the Pokémon, Red and Misty join forces to defeat Team Rocket and find the {{evostone|Moon Stone}} at [[Mt. Moon]]. During the battle, Misty is knocked out by a Team Rocket Grunt's {{p|Rhydon}}.

[[Image:Misty2.gif|left|thumb|Misty, dressed up]]
As is shown in ''[[PS008|Suddenly Starmie]]'', she lives in a large mansion and has a horde of maids that look after her. Here she defeats Red in the [[Cerulean Gym]] and trains with him a couple of days to make them both stronger. At the end of this round she gives Red the {{Badge|Cascade}}.

Later, Red wants to teach his Pokémon {{m|Surf}}, but the [[Hidden Machine|HM]] he tries to acquire is destroyed in a battle with a {{p|Dragonite}}. Misty saves Red from drowning; he at first, mistakes her for a mermaid. As Red's one hope of teaching his Pokémon Surf has been utterly demolished, Misty [[trade]]s Red her Gyarados for his Krabby. They have each other's Pokémon in their respective [[party|parties]] to this day.

She is then seen in the Yellow Saga talking with Professor Oak about Red's disappearance and worries about him, especially after hearing that Oak gave Red's Pokédex and Pika to {{adv|Yellow}}, who she considered a random stranger. She was then seen defeating Agatha and William like all of the other Good Gym Leaders of Kanto. She was also seen being stalled by Agatha by forcing her city under attack by a group of Haunter. The Haunter finally retrieve what they were really after all along, her Gym Badge and she had her Starmie go to [[Cerise Island]] and give the message to the others.

In [[Johto]], during the second Team Rocket crisis, {{p|Suicune}} chooses Misty to be its partner. She, however, later becomes injured in the battle with the [[Masked Man]], and Suicune goes on to take {{adv|Crystal}} as its second partner for the battle's climax.

Misty seems to have a crush on Red. It is however, considered distinct from Misty's [[PokéShipping|suspected crush]] on Ash in the {{pkmn|anime}}, and in other manga. During the second Team Rocket crisis, [[Erika]] observes that Misty is planning on making some sort of confession of romantic feelings to Red. It is unlikely, however, that she ever managed to carry out this plan.
{{-}}
====Pokémon====
This listing is of Misty's Pokémon in the ''Pokémon Adventures'' manga.
{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Misty
|pkmn=Staryu
|type1=Water
|img=Misty Staryu Manga.png
|epnum=PS006
|epname=Gyarados Splashes In!
|desc=Staryu was the first Pokémon of Misty's seen. It was used quite often by her, most notably against her rampaging Gyarados and [[Koga]]'s {{p|Rhydon}}. Its known moves include {{m|Recover}} and {{m|BubbleBeam}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Misty
|pkmn=Starmie
|type1=Water
|type2=Psychic
|img=VS Starmie.png
|epnum=PS008
|epname=Suddenly Starmie
|desc={{p|Starmie}} is one of Misty's main Pokémon. It was first seen when Misty trained with {{adv|Red}} to become stronger so that they could fight against [[Team Rocket]] more easily. In the {{chap|Yellow}}, it was used to defend Cerulean City from the [[Elite Four]]'s {{type2|Ghost}} Pokémon army. Starmie was also used in the [[Gym Leader]] tournament in the {{chap|Gold, Silver & Crystal}}, where it easily defeated [[Whitney]]'s {{p|Miltank|Mil Mil}}. It can use an ancient star language to write messages in mid air, which comes in handy when Misty needs to send a message across a long distance or when a Pokémon needs to tell Misty something. Its known moves are {{m|Water Gun}}, {{m|BubbleBeam}}, {{m|Flash}}, {{m|Rapid Spin}} and {{m|Hyper Beam}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Misty
|pkmn=Krabby
|type1=Water
|img=Kra.png
|epnum=PS018
|epname=A Tale of Ninetales
|desc=Krabby was originally owned by {{adv|Red}} but Misty traded her {{p|Gyarados}} for it in ''[[PS024|You know... Articuno!]]''. Krabby was used often by Misty, most notably when she was fighting to defend [[Cerulean City]] from the [[Elite Four]]'s {{type2|Ghost}} Pokémon army.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Misty
|pkmn=Goldeen
|type1=Water
|img=Misty Goldeen Manga.png
|epnum=PS066
|epname=Punching Poliwrath
|desc={{p|Goldeen}} was only seen during the [[Elite Four]]'s attack on [[Kanto]]. It was used by Misty to defend her city from [[Agatha]]'s Ghost Pokémon army. Its known attacks are {{m|Waterfall}} and {{m|Supersonic}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Misty
|pkmn=Chinchou
|type1=Water
|type2=Electric
|img=Misty Chinchou.png
|epnum=PS150
|epname=Light Up My Days, Chinchou
|desc={{p|Chinchou}} was used by Misty to light up the [[Tohjo Falls]] when she fell into a cave while saving a wild Krabby.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Misty
|pkmn=Lanturn
|type1=Water
|type2=Electric
|img=Misty Lanturn.png
|epnum=PS151
|epname=Upstream-Swimmer Lanturn
|desc={{p|Lanturn}} was used by Misty to fight {{p|Suicune}} in the [[Tohjo Falls]]. Its quick movements and powerful attacks allowed it to do well against the legendary Pokémon. Its known moves are {{m|Hydro Pump}} and {{m|Waterfall}}.}}

=====Formerly owned=====
This listing is of Misty's previously owned Pokémon in the ''Pokémon Adventures'' manga.

{|border="1" style="border: 1px solid #000; border-collapse: collapse;" width=300px cellspacing="0"
|-
| align=center | [[Image:138.png]] {{p|Omanyte}} (given to {{adv|Yellow}})
| align=center | [[Image:130.png]] {{p|Gyarados}} ("[[Gyara]]", traded to Red for Krabby)
| align=center | [[Image:245.png]] {{p|Suicune}}
|}

===Electric Tale of Pikachu===
[[Image:Misty Dengeki.png|thumb|Misty in the Electric Tale of Pikachu]]
Misty first appears riding her bicycle and finding a Pikachu in a field. During her initial meeting with its [[Ash Ketchum|owner]], she proceeds to explain how difficult it is to become a pro Pokémon Trainer and soon departs. Later, in a manner similar to the Pokémon anime, Ash runs into her again, only to take her bike to escape from a flock of {{p|Spearow}} and a {{p|Fearow}}. In the end, the bike shared the same fate as the anime counterpart.

Throughout the series, Misty and Ash travel together on occasion. At one point, Ash ends up having to battle her in the [[Cerulean Gym]] in order to win the {{Badge|Cascade}} and to retrieve the {{AP|hat}} she took off his head. When he retrieves his hat, Misty accused him of cheating and they get into an argument, causing Daisy to remark that Misty has a ''thing'' for younger men.
====Pokémon====
{|border="1" style="border: 1px solid #000; border-collapse: collapse;" width=550px cellspacing="0"
|-
| align=center | [[Image:129.png]] → [[Image:130.png]] [[Misty's Gyarados|Magikarp → Gyarados]]
| align=center | [[Image:090.png]] {{p|Shellder}}
| align=center | [[Image:131.png]] {{p|Lapras}}
| align=center | [[Image:175.png]] {{TP|Misty|Togepi}}
|}

===Pokémon Pocket Monsters===
[[Image:Misty Pokémon Pocket Monsters.png|right|thumb|150px|Misty in the manga]]
The slapstick manga, [[Pokémon Pocket Monsters]], depicts Misty differently than in other manga. Red, the protagonist of the series, is seeking a {{evostone|Moon Stone}} along with his Pikachu and his Clefairy (one that speaks human language). When they meet Misty, Clefairy notices that she is wearing a Moon Stone as a necklace. She declares that they battle her if they wish to have it. While the Clefairy is initially pumped up to battle, he quickly changes his mind when he sees that his opponent is a massive {{p|Blastoise}}. After a while, the battle is won when Clefairy sucks up all the water in a nearby river and releases the water onto Misty's Pokémon, sending it flying into the sky. Just when Misty is about to reward Red's group with the prize they sought, it gets stolen by someone else.
====Pokémon====
{|border="1" style="border: 1px solid #000; border-collapse: collapse;" width=100px cellspacing="0"
|-
| align=center | [[Image:009.png]] {{p|Blastoise}}
|}

===Pokémon Zensho===
When {{Zensho|Satoshi}} arrives at the [[Cerulean Gym]], he is given a pair of swimming trunks as that is all that is allowed inside the pool arena. Misty appears soon after, [[PokéShipping|prompting a blush from him]]. Soon after, during the battle, he sends out his {{AP|Charmander}}, which is afraid of going near the water since the flame on its tail might go out. His Pikachu is sent next, but having no idea of what to do around the water, it falls in. As he attempts to save his Pokémon, Satoshi gets a cramp and nearly drowns, but Misty manages to rescue him.

Later on, as Satoshi and Pikachu dry themselves off, Misty suggests that she teach them how to properly move around in the water, so they can stand a better chance next time. He trains along with Pikachu, who floats on a life saver. Misty attempts to take the device away from the mouse, only to see that it is clinging to it. Eventually, as Satoshi and Pikachu end up improving. As he sits around with a {{p|Seel}}, Misty relays a story over how a {{p|Dewgong}} rescued her once when a large wave swept her underwater at the beach. Due to that experience, she feels gratitude toward the Pokémon.

After Satoshi thwarts an attack by a [[Team Rocket grunts|Rocket grunt]], she awards him with the {{Badge|Cascade}} and her Seel, telling him that she hopes to meet the Dewgong that rescued her someday.
====Pokémon====
{|border="1" style="border: 1px solid #000; border-collapse: collapse;" width=100px cellspacing="0"
|-
| align=center | [[Image:121.png]] {{p|Starmie}}
|}
=====Released=====
{|border="1" style="border: 1px solid #000; border-collapse: collapse;" width=100px cellspacing="0"
|-
| align=center | [[Image:086.png]] {{p|Seel}} (Given to Satoshi)
|}

==In the TCG==
There is a {{TCG|Theme Deck}} named for Misty in the {{TCG|Gym Heroes}} expansion. It has two versions, [[Misty (TCG)|English]] and [[Hanada City Gym (TCG)|Japanese]].

===Artwork===
Artwork from {{Trading Card Game}} cards featuring Misty:
<gallery>
Image:MistyTrainer.jpg|Misty and the Cascade Badge
Image:MistyTCG1.jpg|Misty and the Cascade Badge
Image:Mistys-Duel.jpg|Misty and her {{TP|Misty|Horsea}}
Image:Mistys-Request.jpg|Mistys shows her love.
Image:Mistys-Wrath.jpg|Misty and her {{TP|Misty|Psyduck}}
Image:Mistys-Tears.jpg|Misty and Staryu
Image:Sabrinas-Psychic-Control.jpg|[[Sabrina]] controls Misty and Psyduck.
Image:MistyVS.jpg|Misty's updated {{TCG|Pokémon VS}} artwork
</gallery>

===Pokémon===
This listing is of cards mentioning or featuring Misty or her Pokémon in the [[Pokémon Trading Card Game]].

{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{tcg Water color}};"
!Name
!Type
!Level
!Rarity
!Set
!Set no.
|-
| {{TCG ID|Gym Heroes|Misty's Seadra|9}} || {{e|Water}} || 30 || [[Image:Rarity Rare.png|Rare Holographic]]H || {{TCG|Gym Heroes}} || 9/132
|-
| {{TCG ID|Gym Heroes|Misty's Tentacruel|10}} || {{e|Water}} || 30 || [[Image:Rarity Rare.png|Rare Holographic]]H || {{TCG|Gym Heroes}} || 10/132
|-
| rowspan=2 | {{TCG ID|Gym Heroes|Misty|18}} || rowspan=2 | - || rowspan=2 | - || [[Image:Rarity Rare.png|Rare Holographic]]H || rowspan=2 | {{TCG|Gym Heroes}} || 18/132
|-
| {{rar|Rare}} || 102/132
|-
| {{TCG ID|Gym Heroes|Misty's Cloyster|29}} || {{e|Water}} || 30 || {{rar|Rare}} || {{TCG|Gym Heroes}} || 29/132
|-
| {{TCG ID|Gym Heroes|Misty's Goldeen|30}} || {{e|Water}} || 8 || {{rar|Rare}} || {{TCG|Gym Heroes}} || 30/132
|-
| {{TCG ID|Gym Heroes|Misty's Poliwrath|31}} || {{e|Water}} || 43 || {{rar|Rare}} || {{TCG|Gym Heroes}} || 31/132
|-
| {{TCG ID|Gym Heroes|Misty's Tentacool|32}} || {{e|Water}} || 12 || {{rar|Rare}} || {{TCG|Gym Heroes}} || 32/132
|-
| {{TCG ID|Gym Heroes|Misty's Poliwhirl|53}} || {{e|Water}} || 37 || {{rar|Uncommon}} || {{TCG|Gym Heroes}} || 53/132
|-
| {{TCG ID|Gym Heroes|Misty's Psyduck|54}} || {{e|Water}} || 15 || {{rar|Uncommon}} || {{TCG|Gym Heroes}} || 54/132
|-
| {{TCG ID|Gym Heroes|Misty's Seaking|55}} || {{e|Water}} || 24 || {{rar|Uncommon}} || {{TCG|Gym Heroes}} || 55/132
|-
| {{TCG ID|Gym Heroes|Misty's Starmie|56}} || {{e|Water}} || 35 || {{rar|Uncommon}} || {{TCG|Gym Heroes}} || 56/132
|-
| {{TCG ID|Gym Heroes|Misty's Tentacool|57}} || {{e|Water}} || 16 || {{rar|Uncommon}} || {{TCG|Gym Heroes}} || 57/132
|-
| {{TCG ID|Gym Heroes|Misty's Goldeen|85}} || {{e|Water}} || 10 || {{rar|Common}} || {{TCG|Gym Heroes}} || 85/132
|-
| {{TCG ID|Gym Heroes|Misty's Horsea|86}} || {{e|Water}} || 10 || {{rar|Common}} || {{TCG|Gym Heroes}} || 86/132
|-
| {{TCG ID|Gym Heroes|Misty's Poliwag|87}} || {{e|Water}} || 15 || {{rar|Common}} || {{TCG|Gym Heroes}} || 87/132
|-
| {{TCG ID|Gym Heroes|Misty's Seel|88}} || {{e|Water}} || 20 || {{rar|Common}} || {{TCG|Gym Heroes}} || 88/132
|-
| {{TCG ID|Gym Heroes|Misty's Shellder|89}} || {{e|Water}} || 10 || {{rar|Common}} || {{TCG|Gym Heroes}} || 89/132
|-
| {{TCG ID|Gym Heroes|Misty's Staryu|90}} || {{e|Water}} || 20 || {{rar|Common}} || {{TCG|Gym Heroes}} || 90/132
|-
| {{TCG ID|Gym Heroes|Cerulean City Gym|108}} || - || - || {{rar|Uncommon}} || {{TCG|Gym Heroes}} || 108/132
|-
| {{TCG ID|Gym Heroes|Misty's Wrath|114}} || - || - || {{rar|Uncommon}} || {{TCG|Gym Heroes}} || 114/132
|-
| {{TCG ID|Gym Heroes|Misty's Duel|123}} || - || - || {{rar|Common}} || {{TCG|Gym Heroes}} || 123/132
|-
| {{TCG ID|Gym Challenge|Misty's Golduck|12}} || {{e|Water}} || 32 || [[Image:Rarity Rare.png|Rare Holographic]]H || {{TCG|Gym Challenge}} || 12/132
|-
| {{TCG ID|Gym Challenge|Misty's Gyarados|13}} || {{e|Water}} || 42 || [[Image:Rarity Rare.png|Rare Holographic]]H || {{TCG|Gym Challenge}} || 13/132
|-
| {{TCG ID|Gym Challenge|Misty's Dewgong|54}} || {{e|Water}} || 40 || {{rar|Uncommon}} || {{TCG|Gym Challenge}} || 54/132
|-
| {{TCG ID|Gym Challenge|Misty's Horsea|87}} || {{e|Water}} || 16 || {{rar|Common}} || {{TCG|Gym Challenge}} || 87/132
|-
| {{TCG ID|Gym Challenge|Misty's Magikarp|88}} || {{e|Water}} || 5 || {{rar|Common}} || {{TCG|Gym Challenge}} || 88/132
|-
| {{TCG ID|Gym Challenge|Misty's Poliwag|89}} || {{e|Water}} || 16 || {{rar|Common}} || {{TCG|Gym Challenge}} || 89/132
|-
| {{TCG ID|Gym Challenge|Misty's Psyduck|90}} || {{e|Water}} || 18 || {{rar|Common}} || {{TCG|Gym Challenge}} || 90/132
|-
| {{TCG ID|Gym Challenge|Misty's Seel|91}} || {{e|Water}} || 14 || {{rar|Common}} || {{TCG|Gym Challenge}} || 91/132
|-
| {{TCG ID|Gym Challenge|Misty's Staryu|92}} || {{e|Water}} || 16 || {{rar|Common}} || {{TCG|Gym Challenge}} || 92/132
|-
| {{TCG ID|Gym Challenge|Misty's Wish|108}} || - || - || {{rar|Rare}} || {{TCG|Gym Challenge}} || 108/132
|-
| {{TCG ID|Gym Challenge|Misty's Tears|118}} || - || - || {{rar|Uncommon}} || {{TCG|Gym Challenge}} || 118/132
|-
| {{TCG ID|VS|Misty's Lapras|57}} || {{e|Water}} || - || {{rar|Common}} || {{TCG|Pokémon VS}} (no English release) || 57/141
|-
| {{TCG ID|VS|Misty's Quagsire|58}} || {{e|Water}} || - || {{rar|Common}} || {{TCG|Pokémon VS}} (no English release) || 58/141
|-
| {{TCG ID|5th Movie Half Deck|Misty's Politoed|3}} || {{e|Water}} || - || - || {{TCG|5th Movie Half Deck}} (no English release) || 3/18
|-
| {{TCG ID|5th Movie Half Deck|Misty's Corsola|4}} || {{e|Water}} || - || - || {{TCG|5th Movie Half Deck}} (no English release) || 4/18
|-
| {{TCG ID|CD|Misty's Treatment|promo}} || - || - || - || {{TCG|Unnumbered Promotional cards}} (no English release) || -
|}

==In the TFG==
{{TFG ID|Next Quest|Misty|40}} appears as a rare Trainer figure in the launch set, {{TFG|Next Quest}}, of the [[Pokémon Trading Figure Game]].

==Other appearances==
===[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]===
Misty appears as a random trophy wearing her outfit from the anime.
====Trophy information====
Misty's the gym leader of Cerulean City and a real tomboy. She loves swimming and all things aquatic, so she makes a point of collecting Starmie, Staryu, and other Water-type Pokémon. This is common among gym leaders: typically, the Pokémon kept by trainers tend to reflect that person's personality and preferences.

==Trivia==
* Her Japanese Leader title is {{tt|おてんば人魚|Tomboy Mermaid}}.
* In the games and the [[Pokémon Adventures]] Manga, Misty is an only child.
* Out of the four {{type2|Water}} Gym Leaders, Misty is the only female. She also is the youngest.
* Misty is the only Gym Leader to have appeared in [[Super Smash Bros. Melee]] (albeit as a trophy).
* Misty is the only character in the Pokémon franchise to have a recurring Pokémon in all the franchise media, the Pokémon being {{p|Starmie}}.

===Names===
{|{{bluetable|background: white}}
|-style="background: #ccf;"
!Language
!Name
!Reference to
|-
|Japanese
|カスミ ''Kasumi''
|From カスミソウ ''kasumisō'', the Japanese name for {{wp|Gypsophila}}. A reference to 霞み ''kasumi'' ("mist").
|-
|English, German, Italian, Spanish
|Misty
|Translation of 霞み ''kasumi'' in relation to the word ''mist''.
|-
|French
|Ondine
|Refers to {{wp|Ondine (mythology)|Ondine}}, a water nymph in Germanic mythology.
|-
|Korean
|이슬 (''Iseul'')
|이슬 means ''dew''.
|-
|Chinese
|小霞 (''Xiǎo Xiá'')
|"Little mist." 霞 is taken from 霞み ''kasumi''.
|}

==Related articles==
* {{cat|Episodes focusing on Misty}}

==External links==
*[http://fan.tainted-ink.net/list/misty/ Bubblebeam], the fanlisting for Misty
*[http://pokeani.com/chara/r-kasumi.html Kasumi's Profile] on [[Pokeani]] (Japanese)
*[http://pokeani.com/poke/list/r_poke-kasumi.html Kasumi's Pokémon] on [[Pokeani]] (Japanese)

==On Bulbagarden forums==
*[http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showthread.php?t=8831 Misty Club]
 
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Talk:Mew (Wizards Promo 47)

2010-05-31T15:59:52Z

Magikarp123193: Created page with 'I think Mew is on a rock, not a lily pad. Can anyone confirm this? ~~~~'

I think Mew is on a rock, not a lily pad. Can anyone confirm this? [[User:Magikarp123193|magikarp123193]] 15:59, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Venusaur (Wizards Promo 13)

2010-05-26T23:52:55Z

Magikarp123193: /* Origin */ How could you not notice this?

{{PokémoncardInfobox |
cardname=Venusaur |
level=64 |
jname=フシギバナ |
jtrans=Fushigibana |
image=Promo13_Venusaur.jpg |
caption=Illus. [[Ken Sugimori]] |
evostage=Stage 2 |
evoicon=002 |
evospecies=Ivysaur |
evoname=Ivysaur |
type=Grass |
hp=100 |
weakness=Fire |
resistance=None|
retreatcost=2 |
species=Venusaur |
}}

{{PokémoncardInfobox/Expansion
|type=Grass
|expansion={{TCG|Wizards Black Star Promos}}
|cardno=13
|jpexpansion={{TCG|Unnumbered Promotional cards}}
|gbset={{GB|1|Promotional Card}}
|gbid=PXX
|gb2set={{GB|2|Promotional}}
|gb2id=PXX
|}}

{{PokémoncardInfobox/Footer
|type=Grass
|species=Venusaur
|}}

'''Venusaur''' (Japanese: '''フシギバナ''' ''Fushigibana'') is a {{ct|Grass}} Stage 2 Pokémon card. It was released as a promotional card.

==Card text==
===Pokémon Power===
{{Cardpower |
type=Pokémon Power |
color=CC0000 |
name=Solar Power |
jname=ソーラーパワー |
jtrans=Solar Power |
effect=Once during your turn (''before your attack''), you may use this power. Your active Pokémon and the Defending Pokémon are no longer {{TCG|Asleep}}, {{TCG|Confused}}, {{TCG|Paralyzed}}, or {{TCG|Poisoned}}. This power can't be used if {{tt|Venusaur|this Pokémon}} is {{TCG|Asleep}}, {{TCG|Confused}}, or {{TCG|Paralyzed}}. |
}}

===Attacks===
{{Cardattack |
cost={{e|Grass}}{{e|Grass}}{{e|Grass}}{{e|Grass}} |
name=Mega Drain |
jname=メガドレイン |
jtrans=Mega Drain |
damage=40 |
effect=Remove a number of damage counters from {{tt|Venusaur|this Pokémon}} equal to half the damage done to the Defending Pokémon (''after applying Weakness and Resistance'') (rounded up to the nearest 10). If {{tt|Venusaur|this Pokémon}} has fewer damage counters than that, remove all of them. |
}}

===Pokédex data===
{|{{Graytable}} width="250"
|-
! Species
| Seed Pokémon
|-
! Length
| 6'7" (2m)
|-
! Weight
| 221 lbs. (100Kg)
|-
! nowrap | Pokémon No.
| 3
|-
! Entry
| This plant blooms when it is absorbing solar energy. It stays on the move to seek sunlight.
|}

==Release information==
This card was released as a promotional card. Both the Japanese and English versions were available with the Strategy Guide for {{Card GB}} for the [[Game Boy Color]].

==Trivia==
*The Card GB version of this card could only be obtained through [[Card Pop!]] and is the only card out of the two [[Phantom Cards]] to be actually produced.

===Origin===
{{m|Mega Drain}} is a [[move]] in the [[Pokémon games]] that could only be learned by {{p|Venusaur}} via [[TM21]] in [[Generation I]]. [[Solar Power]] is an ability introduced in [[Generation IV]], but Venusaur cannot have it, and the Japanese name of the Pokémon Power is different than that of the ability, making the two unrelated. The card's Pokédex entry comes from {{game|Red and Blue|s}}.

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Talk:Biruritchi (TCG GB)

2010-05-26T23:41:54Z

Magikarp123193: /* Biruritchi or Vilrich? */ new section

Talk:DP161

2010-05-17T23:21:01Z

Magikarp123193: /* Uh... */ new section

== Update the title ==

Japanese title of this episode has changed.
It's now 開幕！ポケモンコンテスト・アサツキ大会！！(Opening! Pokémon Contest - Asatsuki Tournament!!) - ''unsigned comment from {{u|Goldchaos}} ([[User talk:Goldchaos|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Goldchaos|contribs]]) ''
:Source please. That title sounds kinda weird. Most of the Contest episode titles are like the one we have. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 04:18, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
:: Source: [[http://anime.webnt.jp/program/index.php?pg_page=tv_detail&detail=3331]] [[User:Goldchaos|Goldchaos]] 04:37, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

== Is The Sypnosis Ok? ==

I Added A Sypnosis. Is It Ok? I never Usually Do Them. Usually Trivia! --[[User:Manaphy1|Manaphy1]] 18:12, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

==It says they know why she's called dee-dee==

Go on! Someone tell me so i can add it to the article. [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 17:52, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
:...Add what to what article? Please elaborate. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 17:55, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
::I'm guessing the request is to add the reason why Dawn is called Dee-Dee by her childhood friends. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 04:35, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Thats what i wanted. [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK]] [[Mudkip (Pokémon)|Leiks]] [[Lucario (Pokémon)|Lucario]] [[User talk:SpecialK|and the]] [[User:Missingno. Master/Celebi Glitch|Celebi Glitch]] 17:07, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
::::To ''this'' article? It's already there. Read the synopsis. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 17:48, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

== Uh... ==

The reason why Dawn is called "Pikari" by Kenny and Leona in the Japanese version doesn't make sense in the dub because "Dee Dee" doesn't have anything to do with sparkling or electricity. Maybe if "Dee Dee" had something to do with Dee Dee from Dexter's Laboratory...

User talk:TTEchidna/New evolutions

2010-05-16T21:57:26Z

Magikarp123193: /* Uh... */

== Girafarig evolution ==
Shouldn't the evolution take place during the night, seeig that it's a drk type? [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]][[Image:Ani202MS.gif|32px]] 10:35, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
:Yeah, but it's Psychic, too... and nothing evolves in the morning. Since Espeon comes from daytime evolution of Eevee, and Umbreon from nighttime evolution of Eevee, I figured something Psychic/Dark should evolve from a Normal/Psychic at the time between the two. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 10:43, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
Just change from Psychic/Normal to Dark/Normal then.Like Onix change from Rock/Ground to Steel/Ground.-[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 02:50, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
:But it should be Dark/Psychic so as to have a Pokémon of that type. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 23:58, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
::I vote for Dark/Psychic, and BTW, Riolu --> Morning --> Lucario..... --[[User:Cat2killer|CAT2 A.K.A Cat2killer]] 20:12, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

== Pretty good. ==

Those are pretty good choices so far. If you'd like you can list some of mine. [[User:Kenji-girl/Evolutions and Pre-evolutions]].

I even have a baby Absol so you might be able to complete the Absol line. --[[Image:Ani048MS.gif]]'''[[Tracey Sketchit|ケンジ]]'''[[Image:Ani183MS.gif]]'''[[User:Kenji-girl|ガール]]'''[[Image:Ani123MS.gif]] 11:01, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

...I would've expected Jawile as the favorite but meh. :p (Now, if somehow you could put gummi bears in MooMoo Milk.. that'd own.) [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 23:27, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
:Jawile's Jawile. Linoone evolving wings because it ran so fast is awesome. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 06:55, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Would the female version of Machamp be weaker? Because if it isn't people will just try and get it, rather than trading. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]][[Image:Ani202MS.gif|32px]] 06:57, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
:Weaker how? I'd give her slightly lower Defense and higher Special Defense and maybe Speed. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 07:01, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

I'd make Machick's stats a fair bit weaker, unless you make the Pink Weight really, really hard to find, then the stats should be just as strong, but make defence lower and Speed higher. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]][[Image:Ani202MS.gif|32px]] 07:10, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
:Hmm. Maybe, maybe not. I dunno, honestly. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 08:14, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
::Perhaps we could change it to trade with the pink weight. [[wp:Dolphin|Dolphins]][[User:Dolphin2|_are]][[Special:Contributions|_awesome]] (and [[Vulpix (Pokémon)|Vulpix]] are too)! 19:49, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
Where did you get the name 4 the baby absol? It seems kind of random. -[[User:Theininen|Theininen]] 19:15, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

==My Ideas==
Go [[User:billy4b2004/New Evolutions|here]] for more information!-[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 07:51, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

I have a couple original ones [[User:Dolphin2/new evos|here]] if you want them. [[wp:Dolphin|Dolphins]][[User:Dolphin2|_are]][[Special:Contributions|_awesome]] (and [[Vulpix (Pokémon)|Vulpix]] are too)! 18:36, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

==Eevee==
What about an eevee evolution that is just normal? Or maybe a Dragon one? --{{Ani|133}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|'''Darth''']]{{Ani|196}}[[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|'''Cookie''']]{{Ani|197}}[[User:Darth Cookie Monster/Trade with Me|'''Monster''']]{{Ani|471}} 14:21, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
:Possibly, I'll come up with those all later. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 22:04, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

== Dodododo? ==

That seems a little cumbersome. Maybe something like "Quadodo" or somithing like that. [[Image:Ani197MS.gif]][[User:Midnight Celtic|Midnight Celtic]][[Image:Ani148MS.gif]] 12:57, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
:That is totally a better name. Thanks for the suggestion. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 22:36, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
::I don't know, it still sounds kind of stupid. Better than Dodododo, but not the best. Perhaps Doquadro? [[wp:Dolphin|Dolphins]][[User:Dolphin2|_are]][[Special:Contributions|_awesome]] (and [[Vulpix (Pokémon)|Vulpix]] are too)! 19:11, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Could the trigger be level up with Quadruple Attack?:P -[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 08:50, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

:It's a bad joke only.:P-[[User:Billy4b2004|Billy4b2004]] 03:47, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

::I think the idea of Dotrio evolving is kind of funny but maybe a bit ridiculous. Two heads evolve to three heads evolve to four. Maybe it could have five heads, be Dragon-type, and be named Dohydra? That would be cool, and I bet a lot more people would catch Doduos! [[User:PichuMaster|PichuMaster]] 20:46, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

== Myitten ==

Mewoth pre-evo? Course we need one! [[Image:491.png|45px 45px]][[User:Kpokefan|'''K''']][[User talk:Kpokefan|'''P''']][[User:Kpokefan/Missions|'''F''']][[Image:Cal.png|30px 30px]] 18:47, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
:Meh. Doesn't quite seem to work with me. A kitty? Maybe the situation will be similar to {{p|Kangaskhan}}... [[User:Ht14|ht14]] 00:09, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
::There shouldn't be a pre/evo for a meowth but that's just me. I think the two of them are fine. Anyway, how would the Meowth from the Anime think?[[User:Pyles|Pyles]] 22:03, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
:::Perhaps it could be a pre-evolution of skitty. [[wp:Dolphin|Dolphins]][[User:Dolphin2|_are]][[Special:Contributions|_awesome]] (and [[Vulpix (Pokémon)|Vulpix]] are too)! 19:47, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

== New Type combinations ==

Why not you make some new Pokemon type combinations:

* Electric / Dragon
* Electric / Ice
* Fighting / Ghost
* Psychic / Fire
* Dark / Normal
* Psychic / Steel
* Dragon / Fire
:Those are better suited for completely new Pokémon. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 05:07, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
::You know, there are already Psychic/Steel Pokémon. {{p|Beldum}}, {{p|Metang}}, {{p|Metagross}}, {{p|Bronzor}}, and {{p|Bronzong}}. --[[Image:Ani048MS.gif]]'''[[Tracey Sketchit|ケンジ]]'''[[Image:Ani183MS.gif]]'''[[User:Kenji-girl|ガール]]'''[[Image:Ani123MS.gif]] 06:18, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
:::That too. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 07:09, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
::::Maybe an idea similar to Dratinice, Dratinire, and Dratinilic from [[Pokémon Crater|Crater]] for the respective types ({{t|Ice}}, {{t|Fire}}, {{t|Electric}})... [[User:Ht14|ht14]] 00:11, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::Maybe for Dragon/Normal you could have an evolution of Raticate: Draticate!! Which is a stupid name.[[User:Valorum27|Valorum27]] 05:18, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

==NICE==

Nice evos dude! I like it! I also have some ideas too, talk to me if you want to here them. the preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:MAXDude17|MAXDude17]]

== Deliguin ==

I got an Idea

Delibird >>> Trade holding Mystery Parcel >>> Deliguin!(Ice/Flying)

(P.S. Call me lazy if you must,I couldn't go to the Archives!)
[[User:Emp395|Emp395]] 22:43, 15 July 2008 (UTC)Emp395

== Name for Vespidron? ==

All drones are female bees. Basically what happens (in real life) is that the queen makes a lot of eggs, then only a few are fertilized. The fertilized ones grow to be queens and males. The unfertilized ones become nonreproductive females (drones) that sit around with only one X chromosome. And the sole purpose of the males is to... you know... with the queens. I'm not saying Vespidron is a bad name, just it's not parallel with real life. Though I think I have a (very unlikely) remedy that has three alternate evos:

*Vespiquen: female Combee with happiness/evo stone?
*Vespidron: female Combee at Lv. 20
*Vespi(something): male Combee at Lv. 20

Just a thought... --[[User:Clorox|Clorox]] ([[User talk:Clorox|diskussion]]) 06:08, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
:Oh, and I guess those should be at level 21. And it could be leveling up with Royal Jelly. --▄█ [[User:Clorox|<code>'Clorox</code>]] ▓▒ 19:49, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
::Vespiking? -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 21:56, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Possibly. But seeing as they aren't called Kings, they're just Males, there might be a better name. --▄█ [[User:Clorox|<code>'Clorox</code>]] ▓▒ 19:29, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
::::See [[wp:Drone (bee)]] on wikipedia. They're males. Get your facts strait! [[wp:Dolphin|Dolphins]][[User:Dolphin2|_are]][[Special:Contributions|_awesome]] (and [[Vulpix (Pokémon)|Vulpix]] are too)! 20:42, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

My friend and I once had an idea for an alternate Male Combee Evolution. We called it Vespinight. It would have a=had a kind of sword/sting for one arm, a {{tt|smaller|Than Vespiquen's}} honycomb/cannon for another arm and the bottom of a regular wasp (like Beedrill). Gallevoir 11:25, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

==Good==
good... except for the fact that tauros is a male only gender and males don't give milk... if it is to evolve with milk drink... just a suggestion. The other one's are great!
:The move is called "Milk Drink", not "Milk Produce". It's fine. :D --▄█ [[User:Clorox|<code>'Clorox</code>]] ▓▒ 19:55, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
::Wow, imagine the hardships mankind would face if males couldn't drink. Dude. [[User:H4r8z0r|H4r8z0r]] 23:32, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

==Racclift==
I like the idea of Racclift a lot, but my main problem is that it can't learn Fly. What's the point of evolving Linoone into a flying type if it can't fly?[[User:Spatula]] 00:04, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
::What would Racclift even look like. I can't imagine it. True, not knowing fly would be bad.[[User:Pyles|Pyles]] 21:59, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
:::Not that I'm aganst Racclift, it's just that, zigzagoon is the normal-type single evolution in Hoenn, and, if it got a seccond evolution it would completely screw up the space-time continum (Con-tin-you-um), which would make Dialga and Palkia very upset. maybe it could evolve from some other Pokémon.☺[[wp:Dolphin|Dolphins]][[User:Dolphin2|_are]][[Special:Contributions|_awesome]] (and [[Vulpix (Pokémon)|Vulpix]] are too)! 21:13, 13 July 2009 (UTC)☺
::::You could have it be able to learn fly only as Racclift, such as Charizard and Charmeleon. To prevent egg moves, you could make the move learned by level up.[[User:Valorum27|Valorum27]] 05:48, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

==Awesome!==
They were great man. How about having Beedrill evolve into Combee on level-up with Minimize and with 2 other Beedrill also knowing Minimize in the party? Is that cool enough?
: That would make no sense! First of all, a Pokémon can't evolve more than twice. Second, a Pokémon can't evolve into something with a lower base stat total.--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 00:15, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
::Shedinja? And who says it would have to evolve more than twice? Kakuna♂ > Beedrill♂ > Combee♂. [[User:H4r8z0r|H4r8z0r]] 00:22, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Retconning Weedle from Beedrill's evolution line and retconning Vespiquen from Combee's evolution line '''IS CHEAP!!!'''--[[User:Pokencyclopedia|Pokencyclopedia]] 00:38, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
::::It is pretttttttty cheap.... --[[User:Cat2killer|CAT2 A.K.A Cat2killer]] 20:20, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

== False teeth? ==

I have a better idea -- have it hold a {{wp|sake}} cup, and pay homage to Japanese tradition! ^-^ --[[User:Manga-in-a-bottle|Manga-in-a-bottle]] 04:18, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
:How about a better idea: Give it a poffin made by a Cheri Berry! [[User:Missingyes||\/| | Z Z | |\| G Y 3 Z]] 23:50, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
::What about just a Cheri Berry? [[wp:Dolphin|Dolphins]][[User:Dolphin2|_are]][[Special:Contributions|_awesome]] (and [[Vulpix (Pokémon)|Vulpix]] are too)! 19:40, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
:::You know what, I thought of somthing better: It could be a held item called Sweet Berry that you can only get after giving {{tt|someone|I haven't exactly figured out who}} 100 Cheri Berries! [[User talk:Dolphin2|Dolphins]] [[User:Dolphin2|are]] [[Special:Contributions/Dolphin2|awesome]] (and [[Vulpix (Pokémon)|Vulpix]] are too) 23:14, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

==Different names==
I already posted on Magnedeth's page so you can check it out there... Your evolutions are cool. [[User:Pyles|Pyles]] 16:38, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

== I just have to say, ==

I love the Star Trek reference. KHAN!!![[User:Zabbethx|Zabbethx]] 18:39, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
:More like the YTMND reference. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 18:53, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

== kennek ==

I made a picture of Kennek but i can't upload it. [[User:Vespitomb|User: Vespitomb]] 17:20, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

P.s. Great Evos

P.p.s. What is the Name of the Pokemon that ends of tomb because I've forgotten Why Im called Vespitomb

:{{p|Spiritomb}} [[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamate]][[User Talk:Ultamatecharizard|Charizard]] 17:33, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

== Kangaskirk ==

Well, firtst off, it triggered a Star Trek thing in my brain, which is: Kangas'''KHAN''' and Kangas'''KIRK'''..... Kirk and Khan...? Anyone? *Crickets* Second of all, maybe it should be Normal/Fighting?
:Yes, I forgot to sign, and nevermind....The guy above got to it first! --[[User:Cat2killer|CAT2 A.K.A Cat2killer]] 20:18, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
::The problem with that evolution for me is that the male evolves into Kangaskhan, and Kangaskhan has the joey in it's pouch. I'm not saying that Pokémon has to be completely based off of nature (I'm glad it isn't, if it was it would be boring) but the female carries the joey.

== Uh... ==

You can't predict that Mawile will evolve when traded holding the Suudsu Glass! Suudsu is from HomestarRunner.com, and its creators, The Brothers Chaps, will be unhappy. Could you please change it?- ''unsigned comment from {{u|Magikarp123193}} ([[User talk:Magikarp123193|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Magikarp123193|contribs]]) ''

Whoops, forgot to sign. [[User:Magikarp123193|Connor Casey]] 23:29, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

:The Cheat would have no less! And besides, no problem! On WiiWare, there's a Strong Bad game. He's already working with Nintendo. The cheat is grounded! ...For not letting Nintendo work with him. The system is now dowwwwwwnnnnnn.....----'''[[User:Missingyes| |\/| | Z]] [[User talk:Missingyes|Z | |\| G]] [[User:Missingyes/Sprites|Y E Z]]''' 14:25, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

::Yeah, well it seems unlikely that they would put Suudsu Glass in a ''Japanese'' game. Homestarrunner.com is an ''American'' thing. So therefore, no Suudsu Glass for Mawile. [[User:Magikarp123193|magikarp123193]] 01:13, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
::EDIT: Oh, and TBC aren't working for Nintendo. They're working for Telltale Games. SBCG4AP is just for Wii. Just because a person made a ''game'' for a Nintendo platform doesn't mean they're ''working'' for Nintendo!

It's just a joke. No one knows HOW Mawile ought to evolve, just that it ought to get an evolution. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 01:20, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

== Pre-evolution for Kelcleon ==

Kelcleon could have one called Kelcraon and evolve by happiness in the day time when holding the item Magic Crayon. [[wp:Dolphin|Dolphins]][[User:Dolphin2|_are]][[Special:Contributions|_awesome]] (and [[Vulpix (Pokémon)|Vulpix]] are too)! 19:22, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

== How about a Flying Evolution 4 eevee? ==

Title speaks.--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 01:15, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

== sorry ==

I've used you template would i of asked but I forgot, delete it if you want [[User:Vespitomb|Vespi]][[User Talk:Vespitomb|tomb>]] 11:58, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

== Houndoom evo? Sneasel prevo? ==

Just thought I'd chuck in my two cents. My brother and I came up with a couple, including a Houndoom evolution based on Cerberus (Houndread?) and a pre-evolution of Sneasel, more impish than malicious and with just one claw-hook for each hand (Prankit?). No idea how these would evolve, just based on the notion that a) Houndoom feels like it needs a strength and coolness update and b) there is no dark-type baby pokemon. Also, we considered the notion that a Skarmory pre-evolution should have chain-mail down and a name based on the word fledgling (Sledgling?) and that a Lapras pre-evolution could evolve by leveling up once it knows Surf. And that it should look like a baby sea turtle. <3
Other than that, you seem to have all the bases covered as to our ideas. It's good to know it's not just us who think some of these Pokémon need evos and prevos! --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 00:01, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
::Houndread! That's the best Idea I've heard all day, it's great! (Well, except my Hydra-Doduo idea...)

== Calfna ==

I have to say, it's weird that Calfna evolves into Tauros when knowing Milk Drink.

UnfortunateImplications/FreudWasRight [/TVTropes]

Perhaps something like Horn Attack instead? [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|You enter a poorly lit room...]] 01:32, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

== Regarding Kangaskhan pre-evo... ==

Regarding, the Kangaskhan pre-evolution. There's a reason why it doesn't exist and why it will never exist. Game Freak had a chance to introduce baby-Kanga (I'm just nicknaming it that) in Gen II with the breeding system introduced but didn't, and also introduced new Pokemon such as Marill and Wobbafutt in that Gen. However when you breed those two Pokemon normally, you'll obviously get another Marill and Wobbafutt.

That's why in Gen III, when they wanted to add baby-evos for those two, they couldn't just suddenly make Marill pop out Azurill eggs all-naturally, because it would suddenly no longer make sense in the 'timeline of discoveries of Pokemon evolution'. I dunno what else to call it but that. But because they didn't wanted to screw it up and make things unrealistic, (It wouldn't be realistic if Marill makes Marill babies in Gen II and then all of a sudden makes natural Azurill babies in Gen III without a real reason.) that is why they added incenses and continued to do that for the baby Pokemon of Roselia, Mr. Mime and so on.

However, they cannot possibly create an incense for Kangaskhan, it is far too late for that because baby-Kangas already appeared in Gen I and Gen II, before incenses were invented to 'correct the issue they faced'. And even you do breed Kangaskhan in Gen II and they hatch, they will obviously always result in the new mother with her baby-Kanga in her pouch and continue to do so. In short, a baby-Kanga could have existed as a pre-evo in Gen II because they didn't had to rely on incenses or other such items as they do now. And having Kangaskhan need incense for a baby-Kanga now would be unrealistic. Yes '''I am perfectly aware''' that wild Budew and wild Steelix appear in DPP, which is also unrealistic and confusing (as Roselia will only make Budew eggs with Rose Incense, and Onix can only evolve into Steelix with Metal Coat and being traded). But, I'm sure you get my drift by now. It's simply too late for designers and developers to correct (baby-Kanga) that now.

Do what you want, it's just that there is a reason why baby-Kanga does not exist officially and won't ever be, and I've gotten sick of most fans (not all, not counting you) who have been moaning and whining about baby-Kanga since Gen II. That and I just figured it would be a wise point to bring this up, especially considering you don't list a 'how to get baby-Kanga from breeding' in your list. [[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]] 06:20, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

I don't know about anyone else, but that made absolutely no sense to me. [[User talk:Dolphin2|Dolphins]] [[User:Dolphin2|are]] [[Special:Contributions/Dolphin2|awesome]] (and [[Vulpix (Pokémon)|Vulpix]] are too) 21:11, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

== Ninepine ==

Bonsly→Sudowoodo→Ninepine
It will look like a pine tree and it will have nine pinebranches on it.
Name origin: German word for "no" (nine) and english word for "pine"(pine)
[[User:Pawsrent|Pawsrent]] 00:36, 12 May 2010 (UTC)Pawsrent

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'''Elder''' (Japanese: '''ちょうろう''' ''Elder'') is a type of [[Pokémon Trainer]] that first debuted in [[Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions]]. The only Trainer of this sort is '''Li''' (Japanese: '''コウセイ''' ''Kōsei''), the Eldest of [[Sprout Tower]] [[Sage]]s. The sprite appears as Chinese or Japanese descent. It features an elderly nearly bald man in a large purple robe covering the most of his body, with a yellow robe covered over his right shoulder with the appearance of [[Poké Ball]]s in a square pattern. This attire is typical of Buddhist monks in Japan.

The title existed in {{game2|Gold|Silver|Crystal}} but wasn't a Trainer class until [[Generation IV]]. Instead, it was just a honorific title that Sages used when referring to Li. Before the introduction of the class, Li simply belonged to the Sage class.

Although he cannot be battled, the Elder in the [[Dragon's Den]] has the same overworld sprite as the Elder in the Sprout Tower.

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{{Trainerlist/e|1|Elder Li}}
{{Trainerlist/b|1|1200|3|069|Bellsprout|7|163|Hoothoot|10|069|Bellsprout|7}}
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==Quotes==
==={{game2|Gold|Silver|Crystal}}===
''"So good of you to come here! Sprout Tower is a place of training. People and Pokémon test their bonds to build a bright future together. I am the final test. Allow me to check the ties between your Pokémon and you!"'' 
''"Ah, excellent!"'' 
''"You and your Pokémon should have no problem using this move. Take this Flash HM. Flash illuminates even the darkest of all places. But to use it out of battle, you need the Badge from Violet’s Gym."''

==={{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}===
''"You showed us what you’ve got and it’s indeed good… Take this Technical Machine. However, you should care more about your Pokémon. The way you treat your PoKémon can be too harsh… Remember, Pokémon are not tools of war…"'' 
''"So good of you to come here! Sprout Tower is a place of training. People and Pokemon test their bonds to build a bright future together. I am the final test. Allow me to check the ties between you and your Pokemon!"'' 
''"Ah, excellent!"'' 
''"Hmm...The way you battle is quite elegant. You should be able to stand up to Falkner. And you should be able to make good use of this...It is a Technical Machine called Flash. Take it with you! When a Pokemon learns Flash, you can illuminate caves no matter how dark they may be. You can try it on Bellsprout for example..."'' 
''"I hope you learn and grow from your journey."''

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| Weisester Marek
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== Your signature ==

As per the signature policy, your signature must reflect your name in some way. Connor Casey doesn't cut it for Magikarp123193, sorry. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|You enter a poorly lit room...]] 15:11, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
:Sorry! I thought your signature meant your name, or something like that! [[User:Magikarp123193|magikarp123193]] 19:53, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

== Per [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Talk:EP038&curid=2202&diff=815161&oldid=750466&rcid=883544 this edit] ==

You need to read the {{bp|code of conduct}}. No more namecalling. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:16, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

:Needless censoring is also a no-no. In fact, needless censoring is a blockable offense if one goes too far with it (that happened to {{u|Shiny Noctowl}} when he was trying to needlessly censor talk pages).

:Additonally, "ass" isn't all that bad compared to certain other words. Secondly, the instance you were trying to needlessly censor was in a German context, and certain words have different connotations in different languages (and even in the same language in different areas, such as "bugger" between the UK and the USA).

:Bulbapedia is not a place where stuff is needlessly censored just to keep it clean. For example, if Ash were to utter a certain four-letter S word in clear English in [[DP149]], guess what, we'd list it, not try to work around it. In closing: If we have to go PG-13 to keep the site accurate, nobody has the right to try to force it to go down to PG. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 01:49, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

== Talk page spam ==

Please don't go spamming talk pages making requests we can't possibly fulfill. We are not about to demand something out of the Japanese creators just to satisfy one person's desires. Making such demands is spam, plain and simple, and it will be reverted every single time. Constant reinsertion of such spam can even lead to a block.

In fact, the Japanese creators apparently do not care about the fanbase's feelings, like how they alienated the fanbase in [[DP122]] by giving [[Dawn's Piplup]] an [[Everstone]] when the entire fanbase, without exception, wanted to see it evolve and believes there's no excuse as to why it's not already a {{p|Prinplup}} or possibly an {{p|Empoleon}}. If they want to keep it a Piplup against the wishes of every single person in the fanbase, there's no way in hell they'd listen to just one person's need for a character named Ashley just to get a disguise's Bulbapedia page moved.

P.S. If there ever does come another Ashley, which always remains a possibility even if there isn't any attempted throat-shoving, said other character wouldn't take the simple [[Ashley]] slot, unless said character turns out to be along the lines of a [[Generation V]] [[gym leader]]. Instead, there'll be a disambig at that slot that leads to both Ash's disguise and the other character. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 20:54, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

:Yeah, I knew that. I think... [[User:Magikarp123193|magikarp123193]] 18:27, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

:OK, you had absoultely no excuse to go about posting insulting messages toward sysops on a talk page for a page about a character's disguse, just because said sysop removed your comments about how you're sick of that page being about a character in disguise. Just for that, 36-hour block. We can't control what any of the bigwigs in charge do, and we're sick of people implying that we do have such control. I advise that you take this time to calm down, learn how to and not to make talk page comments (i.e. not be all demanding and such), and how to reply to a talk page comment in an appropriate fashion (i.e. not all insultive and such). Failure to heed these sage words will only result in longer and longer blocks. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 21:03, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

::Okay! I'm really, ''really'' sorry! I had no idea what I did was wrong! For real! So, can you forgive me? [[User:Magikarp123193|magikarp123193]] 18:27, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

:(resetting placement) Well, I think they created a new female player character for HGSS against the wishes of every single person in the fanbase, too.
:EDIT: Also, I'm pretty ticked that Dawn sent away her Ambipom to train. She got it in a ''trade'', people! You don't do that with traded Pokémon! [[User:Magikarp123193|magikarp123193]] 16:03, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

==Talk Page Comments==
Removing talk page comments, including the initial welcome template, is prohibited per Bulbapedia's {{bp|talk page|talk page policy}}. Please do not remove any comments in the future. If you wish to clean old comments away, you should archive your talk page instead. Thank you! --▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 00:43, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
:You aren't an exception. Why not archive it? [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 00:51, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
::Because people may look at the archive and my reputation will stay ruined! Obvious enough fo ya? {{unsigned|Magikarp123193}}
:::'''''You are not an exception.''''' Just fix your behavior, keep it that way, and no one will care what you did in the past. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 00:57, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
::::Besides, removing the comments makes your reputation even worse. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 00:58, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
:::::Oh wow you have such a HUGE reputation. I feel SO bad that it's been ruined. [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Magikarp123193&diff=965856&oldid=934732 Check it out], people will ALWAYS be able to see that. [[User:Virtual-Z|'''Virtual-''']][[User_talk:Virtual-Z|'''Z''']] 01:46, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
::::::Really. Please stop. You will eventually be blocked. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 16:12, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
:::::::But he insulted me! We can't let this crime go unpunished! [[User:Magikarp123193|magikarp123193]] 16:14, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
::::::::... what you did was no better though, if not worse... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 16:18, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::Seriously, though, you should delete his post; insulting people on talkpages is a big no-no. [[User:Magikarp123193|magikarp123193]] 16:23, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::What's done is done. Fix up your attitude, he will fix his up, and there. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 16:25, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

:(resetting indent) Trust me, your reputation only gets worse the more you try to erase talk page comments. Let me tell you the story of {{u|Big Johnno}}. Big Johnno was a chronic talk comment eraser who ended up getting into an edit war with {{u|Fabu-Vinny}}, a sysop, over comments Big Johnno had erased and was trying to keep erased. Needless to say, Big Johnno ultimately ended up blocked for constantly erasing talk page comments and ultimately had every single erased comment restored. Needless to say, the very action Big Johnno thought would save his reputation ended up destroying it.

:Needless to say, if you keep erasing talk page comments because you think they're ruining your reputation, your ultimate fate will be the same as Big Johnno's. Temporarily blocked, every erased comment restored, and no reputation to speak of. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 16:32, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
::Lol, I didn't even insult you. I just simply stated the facts a) you don't have a reputation yet b) I don't feel bad that your inexistent reputation is ruined. [[User:Virtual-Z|'''Virtual-''']][[User_talk:Virtual-Z|'''Z''']] 19:22, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

== Uhh ==

Why are you editing {{u|Big Johnno}}'s userpage? Please stop. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 18:16, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
:But he's making predictions that probably won't come true! We ''have'' to stop him! [[User:Magikarp123193|magikarp123193]] 18:18, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
::You have got to be kidding me. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 18:19, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
:::He's entitled to predict what he wants and if something turns out to be untrue it's his perogative to change it. Besides, editing [[Bulbapedia:Userspace policy|other users' pages]] is against the rules. Thank you. --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 18:18, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
:::: Yeah, like May having a Leafeon is correct. It's a Glaceon, Johnno! Fix it, '''NOW!''' [[User:Magikarp123193|magikarp123193]] 18:24, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::He hasn't been online since, like, 2008. Just leave it. The internet isn't going to explode if he has impossible preditions on his userpage :P --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 18:40, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::Seriously, just because a prediction is not true, doesn't mean it's the end of the world. In fact, it'll probably be the farthest thing from that. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 21:15, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

== Edit warring ==

The next time you think a page is wrong, and someone (or four someones) continually disagree with you, bring it up on the talk page, instead of continually reverting them. You have been blocked for two weeks as a result of your actions. Let this be a warning for future editing. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:31, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
:Email noted. However, in your edit war you reverted over two staff members. The first time someone undid your work, you should have brought it up instead of putting it back three more times, and shouting at us. Let this be a lesson to you; I don't want to have to block you again. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 06:19, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Mew (Wizards Promo 47)

2010-02-21T22:25:25Z

Magikarp123193: Undo revision 1017841 by CoolPikachu! (Talk)DO I HAVE TO EXPLAIN IT TO ALL OF YOU?! IT'S... A... ROCK!

{{PokémoncardInfobox |
cardname=Mew |
level=8 |
jname=ミュウ |
jtrans=Mew |
image=100_151_MEW08_C702.jpg‎ |
caption=Illus. [[Ken Sugimori]] |
evostage=Basic |
type=Psychic |
hp=40 |
weakness=Psychic |
resistance=None |
retreatcost=1 |
species=Mew |
}}
{{PokémoncardInfobox/Expansion
| type=psychic
| expansion={{TCG|Wizards Black Star Promos}}
| cardno=47
| jpexpansion={{TCG|Unnumbered Promotional cards}}
| gbset={{GB|1|Promotional Card}}
| gbid=P14
| gb2set={{GB|2|Promotional}}
| gb2id=P31
}}
{{PokémoncardInfobox/Footer|type=psychic|species=Mew}}

'''Mew''' (Japanese: '''ミュウ''' ''Mew'') is a {{ct|Psychic}} [[Basic Pokémon]] card. It was released as a promotional card.

==Card text==
===Pokémon Power===
{{Cardpower |
type=Pokémon Power |
color=CC0000 |
name=Neutral Shield |
jname=ニュートラルシールド |
jtrans=Neutral Shield |
effect=Prevent all effects of attacks, including damage, done to {{tt|Mew|this Pokémon}} by Evolved Pokémon. You can't use this power if {{tt|Mew|this Pokémon}} is {{TCG|Asleep}}, {{TCG|Confused}}, or {{TCG|Paralyzed}}. |
}}

===Attacks===
{{Cardattack |
cost={{e|Psychic}} |
name=Psyshock |
jname=ねんりき |
jtrans=Mindpower |
damage=10 |
effect=Flip a {{TCG|coin}}. If heads, the Defending Pokémon is now {{TCG|Paralyzed}}. |
}}

===Pokédex data===
{|{{Graytable}} width="250"
|-
! Species
| New Species Pokémon
|-
! Length
| 1'4" (0.4m)
|-
! Weight
| 9 lbs (3Kg)
|-
! nowrap | Pokémon No.
| 151
|-
! Entry
| So rare that it is still said to be a mirage by many experts. Only a few people have seen it worldwide.
|}

==Release information==
This card was released as a promotional card. In Japan, it came with the February 1997 issue of [[CoroCoro]] Comic, released in January 1997. It was later released again as a special card at the [[wp:Japan Railway|JR]] Stamp Rally. The English version of the card was released through Pokémon card leagues in June 2002.

==Trivia==
*A misprint was made on the English version of this card. Its Psyshock attack was printed as saying "{{TCG|Confused}}" where it should say "Paralyzed".
*Additionally, the "Pokémon Power: Neutral Shield" text on the English card is red, which was unusual for a {{ct|Psychic}} card prior to the split of Pokémon Powers into Poké-Powers and Poké-Bodies. Typical Pokémon Powers on English Psychic-type cards are in blue, while some of their Japanese counterparts (including the Japanese version of this card) are in yellow.
*This card is commonly known as ''Glossy Mew'' or ''Lily Pad Mew'', referring to its illustration. Despite the latter, Mew is actually on a rock.

===Origin===
Psyshock's Japanese name is that of {{m|Confusion}}, a [[move]] in the [[Pokémon games]] that {{p|Mew}} cannot learn.

[[Category:Pokémon cards]]
[[Category:Mew (TCG)]]
[[Category:Psychic-type Pokémon cards]]
[[Category:Basic Pokémon cards]]
[[Category:Promotional cards]]
[[Category:Wizards Black Star Promotional cards]]
[[Category:Illus. by Ken Sugimori]]

[[ja:ミュウLV.8 (プロモーションカード)]]

Mew (Wizards Promo 47)

2010-02-21T22:20:50Z

Magikarp123193: Undo revision 1016884 by Maverick Nate (Talk) I'M TELLING YOU, IT'S A ROCK! DON'T CHANGE IT!

Snorlax (Pokémon)

2010-02-20T15:54:18Z

Magikarp123193: /* Trivia */ You are mistaken. It says, "Red caught a Snorlax", not, "caught a red Snorlax".

{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Aerodactyl | next=Articuno|type=normal|| prevnum=142| nextnum=144}}
{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Snorlax |
jname=カビゴン |
tmname=Kabigon |
image=143Snorlax.png |
size=220px |
caption=Artwork from FR/LG |
pron=<sc>''snore''-lacks</sc> <ref>Barbo, Maria. ''The Official Pokémon Handbook''. Scholastic Publishing, 1999. ISBN 0-439-10397-5</ref> |
ndex=143 |
oldjdex=225 |
jdex=230 |
hdex=298 |
fdex=105 |
sdex=113 |
typen=1 |
type1=Normal |
type2= |
species=Sleeping |
height-ftin=6'11" |
height-m=2.1 |
weight-lbs=1014.1 |
weight-kg=460.0 |
abilityn=2 |
ability1=Immunity |
ability2=Thick Fat |
egggroupn=1 |
egggroup1=Monster |
egggroup2= |
eggcycles=40 |
evhp=2 |
expyield=154 |
lv100exp=1,250,000 |
gendercode=31 |
color=Black |
catchrate=25 |
body=12 |
pokefordex=snorlax |
generation=1 |
footnotes=}}
'''Snorlax''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''カビゴン''' ''Kabigon'') is a {{type2|Normal}} Pokémon.

It [[Evolution|evolves]] from {{p|Munchlax}} via {{DL|Happiness|Evolutions|Happiness}}.

In the [[Generation I]] and {{gen|II}} games and their remakes, wild Snorlax can be found sleeping in inconvenient locations throughout [[Kanto]]. In order to catch one, a Trainer must first awaken it with music from either a [[Poké Flute]] or [[PokéGear]].

==Biology==
===Physiology===
Snorlax's body is composed of mostly its belly, where most of its fat reserves accumulate. It wakes up only to eat and seldom exercises. Its head is also large, and it has two pointed teeth sticking out. Its feet, with three claws and a circular brown paw pad, are extremely large compared to most Pokémon, assisting its balance when it chooses to stand. Its arms and foreclaws are short, but are long enough for Snorlax to grab its food and eat it, and strong enough to deliver powerful blows. It is usually dark blue or green in color.
====Gender differences====
None.

===Special abilities===
When trained and exercised properly, Snorlax can gain supreme strength and ability. They can throw incredibly powerful punches and cause immense {{m|earthquake}}s.

===Behavior===
Snorlax spend the majority of their time sleeping, surviving on their stored fat. Many Snorlax only awaken once a month, spending their waking time finding more food. A hungry Snorlax isn't satisfied until it consumes 900 pounds of food, and then it goes back to sleep. If one ever sees a sleeping Snorlax, he or she should not wake it up, because these Pokémon become very grumpy if their peaceful dreams become interrupted. Several {{type2|Psychic}} Pokémon using {{m|Dream Eater}} find this out the hard way.

===Habitat===
[[Image:Mountain.gif|right|frame|{{DL|List of Pokémon by habitat|Mountain Pokémon}}]]
Snorlax are often in mountains and forests. However, they sometimes wander into towns and streets and sleep there.

===Diet===
{{main|Pokémon food}}
Snorlax is not very picky, and will eat anything and everything that is edible. They are fond of large, thorny vines or their diet may compose of bananas found in grasslands. Snorlax only wake up to eat. They need to eat about 900lbs (90% of their bodyweight) to be satisfied before falling back to sleep. Some Snorlax sleep for a month at a time, so 900lbs of food is enough to sustain them for one month whilst asleep.

==In the anime==
[[Image:AG149 107.jpeg|thumb|210px|[[Ash's Snorlax]] using {{m|Ice Punch}}]]
===Major appearances===
====[[Ash's Snorlax]]====
In ''[[EP094|Snack Attack!]]'', a Snorlax was eating the grapefuits of the [[Seven Grapefruit Islands|Grapefruit Islands]]. {{Ash}} managed to capture it near the end of the episode. After the adventures in the [[Orange Archipelago|Orange Islands]], [[Ash's Snorlax]] spent most of its time at [[Professor Oak]]'s lab.

====Other====
Snorlax first appeared in ''[[EP041|Wake Up Snorlax!]]''. This Snorlax was blocking the water flow to a small village.

In ''[[AG088|The Garden of Eatin']]'', another Snorlax was causing trouble for a man named [[Marcel]] by eating the bananas in his {{p|Slakoth}} Banana Garden. Marcel's newly evolved {{p|Vigoroth}} defeated the Snorlax, allowing him to capture it. Afterwards, Marcel made an attraction around his new Snorlax: a relaxation room.

A Snorlax takes part in the [[Pokéthlon]] in [[DP160]].

===Minor appearances===
''[[H012|Training Daze]]'' featured a {{pkmn2|shiny|red}} Snorlax which [[Jessie]], [[James]], and {{MTR}}, while competing with [[Butch]], [[Cassidy]], and {{TR|Raticate}}, were sent to steal in order to become official Team Rocket field agents. The Snorlax turned out to be [[Viper]], the Team Rocket Academy Drill Sergeant in disguise.

In ''[[AG086|Lights, Camerupt, Action]]'', a Snorlax was a sheriff in a western-themed Pokémon movie.

A Snorlax also appeared near the end of ''[[M07|Destiny Deoxys]]'', evolving from {{p|Munchlax}} in order to stay afloat during a 'flood' of malfunctioning robots.

In ''[[AG158|Queen of the Serpentine]]'', a Snorlax made a cameo as one of {{FB|Pike Queen|Lucy}}'s pets.

[[Roman]], who appeared in ''[[DP076|A Full Course Tag Battle!]]'', owns a Snorlax.

A Snorlax also appeared in the Pikachu short ''[[Pikachu and Pichu]]''.

A Snorlax appeared in ''[[DP141|Challenging a Towering Figure!]]''.

===Pokédex entries===
{{Animedexheader|Kanto}}
{{Animedexbody|EP041|Snorlax|Ash's Pokédex|Snorlax, a Sleepy Pokémon. Snorlax wakes only to eat.}}
{{Animedexbody|EP041|Snorlax's weight|Ash's Pokédex|Snorlax is the heaviest species of all known Pokémon, with some weighing more than 1,000 pounds.}}
{{Animedexbody|EP041|Snorlax's diet|Ash's Pokédex|Snorlax's hunger isn't satisfied until it consumes 900 pounds of {{pkmn|food}}. Then it goes back to {{m|Rest|sleep}}.}}
|}
{|align="center" width="100%" style="background: #{{colorschemedark|Kanto}}"
|-
| text align="right" width="100%" style="background: #{{colorschemelight|Kanto}}; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft: 10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomright: 10px;" | '''Original series entries continue below.'''
|}
|}
{{Animedexheader|Orange}}
{{Animedexbody|EP094|Snorlax|Ash's Pokédex|Snorlax, the Sleeping Pokémon. Snorlax isn't satisfied unless it eats at least 900 pounds of food per day. Once it is full, it probably goes to sleep.}}
{{Animedexfooter/Pokémon|original|Orange}}
{{Animedexheader|Hoenn}}
{{Animedexbody|AG088|Snorlax|Ash's Pokédex|Snorlax, the Sleeping Pokémon. Snorlax isn't satisfied until it's eaten about 900 pounds of food each day, afterwhich it promptly goes to sleep.}}
{{Animedexfooter/Pokémon|''Advanced Generation''|Hoenn}}
{{Animedexheader|Sinnoh}}
{{Animedexbody|DP076|Snorlax|Dawn's Pokédex|Snorlax, the Sleeping Pokémon and the evolved form of {{p|Munchlax}}. It can eat 400 pounds of food before feeling full.}}
{{Animedexfooter/Pokémon|''Diamond & Pearl''|Sinnoh}}

==In the manga==
{{adv|Red}} caught a Snorlax on [[Route 17|Cycling Road]].

==In the TCG==
{{main|Snorlax (TCG)}}

==Other appearances==
[[Image:Snorlax Brawl.jpg|right|thumb|Snorlax in [[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]]]

===[[Super Smash Bros.]]===
When released from a Poké Ball, Snorlax will ascend into the air before descending over a large area of the screen with a {{m|Body Slam}} that sends any opponent underneath flying.

===[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]===
Snorlax does the same maneuver as it did in the previous game, but covers a smaller area.

Snorlax is also a [[Poké Floats|Poké Float]]. It is lying down asleep and so fighting occurs on its head and belly.
====Trophy information====
Snorlax love to sleep and love to eat: these portly Pokémon get grumpy if they don't get 888 pounds of food per day. After snacking out, they always nap. They have cast-iron stomachs and can eat moldy and even rotten food with no digestion problems. They are the heaviest Pokémon on record, weighing in at over 1,000 pounds.

===[[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]===
Snorlax once again performs the same maneuver as the previous games.

==Game data==
===NPC appearances===
* {{ga|Pokémon Ranger}}: Snorlax will be seen sleeping throughout the game, effectively cutting off certain areas until later on. It will eventually remain in a cave in the [[Sekra Mountain Range]]. Once the rest of the [[List of Pokémon by Fiore Browser number|Ranger Browser]] has been completed, it will wake up and can be captured.

===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex
|type=normal
|gen=1
|redbluedex=Very lazy. Just eats and sleeps. As its rotund bulk builds, it becomes steadily more slothful.
|yellowdex=Will eat anything, even if the food happens to be a little moldy. It never gets an upset stomach.
|stadiumdex=A lazy Pokémon continually fatter by sticking to a cycle of sleeping and eating. Awake only when it eats.
|golddex=What sounds like its cry may actually be its snores or the rumblings of its hungry belly.
|silverdex=Its stomach's digestive juices can dissolve any kind of poison. It can even eat things off the ground.
|crystaldex=This Pokémon's stomach is so strong, even eating moldy or rotten food will not affect it.
|stadium2dex=Its stomach's digestive juices can dissolve any kind of poison. It can even eat things off the ground.
|rubydex=Snorlax's typical day consists of nothing more than eating and sleeping. It is such a docile Pokémon that there are children who use its expansive belly as a place to play.
|sapphiredex=Snorlax's typical day consists of nothing more than eating and sleeping. It is such a docile Pokémon that there are children who use its expansive belly as a place to play.
|emeralddex=Snorlax's typical day consists of nothing more than eating and sleeping. It is such a docile Pokémon that there are children who use its big belly as a place to play.
|firereddex=It is not satisfied unless it eats over 880 pounds of food every day. When it is done eating, it goes promptly to sleep.
|leafgreendex=It is not satisfied unless it eats over 880 pounds of food every day. When it is done eating, it goes promptly to sleep.
|diamonddex=Its stomach can digest any kind of food, even if it happens to be moldy or rotten.
|pearldex=It stops eating only to sleep. It doesn't feel full unless it eats nearly 900 pounds a day.
|platinumdex=When its belly is full, it becomes too lethargic to even lift a finger, so it is safe to bounce on its belly.
|heartgolddex=What sounds like its cry may actually be its snores or the rumblings of its hungry belly.
|soulsilverdex=Its stomach's digestive juices can dissolve any kind of poison. It can even eat things off the ground.
}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability|
type=normal |
gen=1 |
rbrarity=Two |
rbarea=[[Route]]s {{rtn|12}} and {{rtn|16}} |
yrarity=Two |
yarea=[[Route]]s {{rtn|12}} and {{rtn|16}} |
gsrarity=One |
gsarea=[[Vermilion City]] |
crarity=One |
carea=[[Vermilion City]] |
gen3ex=frlg|
frlgrarity=Two |
frlgarea=[[Route]]s {{rtn|12}} and {{rtn|16}} |
xdrarity=One |
xdarea=[[Citadark Isle]] |
xdshadow=yes |
dprarity=None |
dparea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Munchlax}} |
ptrarity=None |
ptarea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Munchlax}} |
hgssrarity=One |
palarea=Field |
hgssarea=[[Route 11]] |
palarea=Field |
}}

====In side games====
{{SidegameAvail
|type=normal
|snap=[[Pokémon Island Beach|Beach]]
|channel=[[Viridian Forest (Channel)|Camp Starlight]] (Thursday)
|trozei=Endless Level 75 Forever Level 25 Pair Trozei [[Mr. Who's Den]]
|md=[[Howling Forest]] (11F-14F)
|ranger=[[Sekra Mountain Range]]
|md2=[[Mystery Jungle]] (B1-B29)
|scramble=[[Silent Forest]]
}}

===Held items===
{{HeldItems
|type=normal
|rby1=Leftovers|rby1type=In-battle effect item|rby1rar=100
|gsc1=Leftovers|gsc1type=In-battle effect item|gsc1rar=33
|xd1=Leftovers|xd1type=In-battle effect item|xd1rar=100
|frlg1=Chesto Berry|frlg1type=Berry|frlg1rar=100
|dppt1=Leftovers|dppt1type=In-battle effect item|dppt1rar=100
}}

===Stats===
====Base stats====
{{BaseStats with RBY|
HP= 160 |
Attack=110 |
Defense=65 |
SpAtk= 65 |
SpDef= 110 |
Special=65 |
Speed= 30 |
type=Normal }}

====Pokéthlon stats====
{{Pokéthlon
|type=Normal
|Speed=1
|SpeedMax=2
|Power=4
|PowerMax=5
|Technique=1
|TechniqueMax=3
|Stamina=5
|StaminaMax=5
|Jump=2
|JumpMax=2
}}

===Type effectiveness===
{{DP type effectiveness|
type1=normal|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting=200 |
Flying= 100 |
Poison= 100 |
Ground= 100 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 100 |
Ghost= 0 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 100 |
Water= 100 |
Grass= 100 |
Electric=100 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 100 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 |

notes=yes|
thickfat=maybe|
newfire=½|
newice=½}}

===Learnset===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{movelist|normal|normal|4|1|Snorlax}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Tackle|Normal|Physical|30|95|35|Tough|3||'''}}
{{mlentry4|4|Defense Curl|Normal|Status|—|—|40|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|9|Amnesia|Psychic|Status|—|—|20|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|12|Lick|Ghost|Physical|20|100|30|Tough|0}}
{{mlentry4|17|Belly Drum|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|20|Yawn|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|25|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|28|Snore|Normal|Special|40|100|15|Cute|3||'''}}
{{mlentry4|28|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|3}}
{{mlentry4|33|Body Slam|Normal|Physical|85|100|15|Tough|3||'''}}
{{mlentry4|36|Block|Normal|Status|—|—|5|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|41|Rollout|Rock|Physical|30|90|20|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|44|Crunch|Dark|Physical|80|100|15|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|49|Giga Impact|Normal|Physical|150|90|5|Beauty|2||'''}}
{{movelist/note|4|normal}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{movelisttm|normal|normal|4|1|Snorlax}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM01]]|Focus Punch|Fighting|Physical|150|100|20|Tough|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM03]]|Water Pulse|Water|Special|60|100|20|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM06]]|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|85|10|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM10]]|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|—|100|15|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM11]]|Sunny Day|Fire|Status|—|—|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM13]]|Ice Beam|Ice|Special|95|100|10|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM14]]|Blizzard|Ice|Special|120|70|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM15]]|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|5|Cool|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM17]]|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM18]]|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM21]]|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM22]]|SolarBeam|Grass|Special|120|100|10|Cool|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM24]]|Thunderbolt|Electric|Special|95|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM25]]|Thunder|Electric|Special|120|70|10|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM26]]|Earthquake|Ground|Physical|100|100|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM27]]|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20|Cute|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM29]]|Psychic|Psychic|Special|90|100|10|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM30]]|Shadow Ball|Ghost|Special|80|100|15|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM31]]|Brick Break|Fighting|Physical|75|100|15|Cool|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM32]]|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM34]]|Shock Wave|Electric|Special|60|—|20|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM35]]|Flamethrower|Fire|Special|95|100|15|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM37]]|Sandstorm|Rock|Status|—|—|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM38]]|Fire Blast|Fire|Special|120|85|5|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM39]]|Rock Tomb|Rock|Physical|50|80|10|Smart|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM42]]|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Cute|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM43]]|Secret Power|Normal|Physical|70|100|20|Smart|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM44]]|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|Cute|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM45]]|Attract|Normal|Status|—|100|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM52]]|Focus Blast|Fighting|Special|120|70|5|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM56]]|Fling|Dark|Physical|—|100|10|Tough|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM58]]|Endure|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM67]]|Recycle|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|0}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM68]]|Giga Impact|Normal|Physical|150|90|5|Beauty|2||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM78]]|Captivate|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM80]]|Rock Slide|Rock|Physical|75|90|10|Tough|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM82]]|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Cute|3}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM83]]|Natural Gift|Normal|Physical|—|100|15|Cool|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM87]]|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15|Cute|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[TM90]]|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM03]]|Surf|Water|Special|95|100|15|Beauty|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM04]]|Strength|Normal|Physical|80|100|15|Tough|3||'''}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM05]]|Whirlpool|Water|Special|15|70|15|Beauty|0|||HGSS}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM06]]|Rock Smash|Fighting|Physical|40|100|15|Tough|2}}
{{mlentry4|[[HM08]]|Rock Climb|Normal|Physical|90|85|20|Cool|2||'''}}
{{movelist/note|4|normal}}

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
{{eggmoves|normal|normal|4|1|Snorlax}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Bulbasaur}}, {{p|Ivysaur}}, {{p|Venusaur}}|Charm|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Cute|2|*}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Slowpoke}}, {{p|Slowbro}}, {{p|Slowking}} {{p|Turtwig}}, {{p|Grotle}}, {{p|Torterra}}|Curse|???|Status|—|—|20|Tough|0}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Bulbasaur}}, {{p|Ivysaur}}, {{p|Venusaur}} {{p|Cubone}}, {{p|Marowak}} {{p|Aron}}, {{p|Lairon}}, {{p|Aggron}}|Double-Edge|Normal|Physical|120|100|15|Tough|0||'''}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Lapras}} {{p|Shieldon}}, {{p|Bastiodon}}|Fissure|Ground|Physical|—|30|5|Tough|0|*}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Lickitung}}, {{p|Lickilicky}} {{p|Snorlax}}|Lick|Ghost|Physical|20|100|30|Tough|0}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Treecko}}, {{p|Grovyle}}, {{p|Sceptile}} {{p|Cranidos}}, {{p|Rampardos}}|Pursuit|Dark|Physical|40|100|20|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Lickitung}}, {{p|Lickilicky}} {{p|Lapras}}|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|1}}
{{mlentry4|{{p|Tropius}}|Whirlwind|Normal|Status|—|100|20|Smart|0}}
{{eggmoves/note|3|normal}}

====By [[Move tutor|tutoring]]====
{{tutor|normal|normal|4|1|Snorlax}}
{{mtentry4|Block|Normal|Status|—|—|5|Cute|2|||no|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Fire Punch|Fire|Physical|75|100|15|Beauty|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Gunk Shot|Poison|Physical|120|70|5|Cool|3|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Headbutt|Normal|Physical|70|100|15|Tough|3||'''|no|no|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Ice Punch|Ice|Physical|75|100|15|Beauty|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Icy Wind|Ice|Special|55|95|15|Beauty|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Iron Head|Steel|Physical|80|100|15|Tough|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Last Resort|Normal|Physical|130|100|5|Cute|0||'''|no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Mud-Slap|Ground|Special|20|100|10|Cute|3|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Outrage|Dragon|Physical|120|100|15|Cool|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Rollout|Rock|Physical|30|90|20|Tough|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Seed Bomb|Grass|Physical|80|100|15|Smart|3|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Snore|Normal|Special|40|100|15|Cool|3||'''|no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Superpower|Fighting|Physical|120|100|5|Tough|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|ThunderPunch|Electric|Physical|75|100|15|Cool|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{mtentry4|Zen Headbutt|Psychic|Physical|80|90|15|Beauty|2|||no|yes|yes}}
{{tutor/note|4|normal}}

====Special moves====
{{Shadow moves|143|43|Shadow End|Shadow Shed|--|--|Refresh|Normal|Fissure|Ground|Curse|???|Body Slam|Normal|xd|normal|normal}}

===Side game data===
{{Side game|
type=normal |
ndex=143 |
Pincatch=yes |
Trozei=yes |
rarity=Rare |
Dungeon=yes |
body=1 |
rate=2% |
area=Energetic Forest |
P1=I eat, I eat, and I still want to eat! |
P2=I just noticed... Why is my HP down to half? |
P3=I don't understand it. Why am I fainting? |
PL=Yay! I leveled up! Will that make me hungry? |
Partner=no |
Ranger=yes |
typeG=Normal |
Assist=no |
fieldpower=0 |
field=None |
loop=21 |
MinEXP=110 |
MaxEXP=160 |
browser=Snorlax is a massive and heavy Pokémon that is always sleeping. |
Dungeon2=yes |
body2=1 |
rate2=-12% |
iq=E |
}}

===Evolution===
{{evobox
|family=Incense
|sprite1=446
|name1=Munchlax
|type1-1=Normal
|evotype1=Happiness
|incense=Full Incense
|sprite2=143
|name2=Snorlax
|type1-2=Normal}}

===Sprites===
{{Sprite|
type=normal|
gen=1|
gender=none|
ndex=143|
name=Snorlax|
}}

==Trivia==
* Until [[Generation III]], Snorlax was the heaviest Pokémon. It was later out-massed by both {{p|Metagross}} and {{p|Groudon}}. In [[Generation IV]], {{p|Dialga}} and both forms of {{p|Giratina}} are heavier than it as well, setting it back to its present state of the sixth-heaviest Pokémon known.
* Snorlax has the fifth highest base HP of all Pokémon, after {{p|Blissey}}, {{p|Chansey}}, {{p|Wobbuffet}}, and {{p|Wailord}}, in that order.
* Snorlax could learn or know the move {{m|Headbutt}} from [[Generation I]] to [[Generation III]], but can't naturally learn it as of [[Generation IV]].
* Unusually, in [[Pokémon Stadium]] (and later 3D games), Snorlax open their eyes when they faint. Also, when they use special attacks, they stand up.
* In [[Pokémon Snap]], when using the Pokéflute it stands up and dances to the music.
* At 110, Snorlax and {{p|Dodrio}} have the highest base {{stat|Attack}} stat of all [[Generation I]] Normal-types.
* In [[Generation]]s {{gen|I}} to {{gen|III}}, Snorlax could learn {{m|Hyper Beam}} by [[Level|leveling up]]. However, in [[Generation IV]], possibly due to the Physical/Special split, Snorlax can no longer learn it by leveling up and instead can learn {{m|Giga Impact}}, Hyper Beam's physical variant, possibly referencing its large body mass.
* Though Snorlax appears to be dark blue or green in color, it belongs to the {{DL|List of Pokémon by color|Black|black color group}}.
* Snorlax is the heaviest Pokémon that can legally hatch from an egg.
*Snorlax's Red (Japanese) and Green Sprite is symmetrical. {{P|Shellder}} in these games is also symmetrical.
*Snorlax is the only Pokémon to have a new sprite for Emerald.

===Origin===
It may be loosely based on {{wp|hibernation|hibernating}} {{wp|bear}}s or {{wp|teddy bear}}s.

Some speculate that the "Totoro" from the movie, {{wp|My Neighbor Totoro}}, was partly the basis for Snorlax, with the chibi version being the basis for {{P|Munchlax}}.

====Name origin====
Snorlax's name is a combination of ''snore'' and ''lax''. The ''lax'' in its name might also come from relax. Its Japanese name may come from an alternate reading of sleep, 寐 ''bi'', and a corruption of 鼾酔 ''kansui'', snoring, or 憩う ''ikou'', rest. It may also incorporate mold, 黴 ''kabi'', noting the fact that Snorlax will eat anything, even moldy food. 잠만보 is derived from "Sleepy-head".

==In other languages==
* [[List of German Pokémon names|German]]: Relaxo - From ''relax''.
* [[List of French Pokémon names|French]]: Ronflex - From ''ronfler'' (snore).
* [[List of Korean Pokémon names|Korean]]: 잠만보 ''Jammanbo''
* [[List of Chinese Pokémon names|Chinese]]: 卡比兽

==Related articles==
*[[Ash's Snorlax]]

==Notes==
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[[fr:Ronflex]]
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== Phantom Thief! Pokémon 7 Article ==

For the Phantom Thief! Pokémon 7 Article, should I use PTP701?

[[User:Kingofun|Kingofun]] 07:44, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
:Sounds good. [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''''''Cactus''']] 18:30, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

== Umm ==

Why is the main page theme Snorunt and Froslass?

PS: You can get rid of this and reply on my talk if you'd like. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 05:16, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
:September 9 and some other things. --[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 05:21, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
::I figured it was for September 9th, but why? --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 05:35, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
:::Echy knows more{{tt|.|:D}} --[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 05:36, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
::::⑨/⑨/⑨, KG. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:23, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
::::... I know, but WHY? What does Froslass and Snorunt have to do with 09/09/09? D= --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 06:25, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::⑨ deals with a character who has ice powers. --[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 06:26, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::Wow. It looks awesome. Happy Cirno day. Thanks, :3 '''[[User:Kevzo8|Kev]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|zo8]]''' 12:07, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

== SPOILERS!!!!!!! ==

{{spoilers}}
I added some spoiler warnings to the pages about movie characters, as they contained major spoilers for the movies in which they appeared, but then someone deleted them all! Surely it's really important to have warnings on these pages?! [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 14:13, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
:If you dont want to be spoiled, then dont look at the page. Simple '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 14:36, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
::But visitors need to be warned that there are spoilers on the page! What's the point in having any spoiler warnings at all if only some of the articles with spoilers have them? Some people might read the Latios (anime) article example, thinking it doesn't contain spoilers because it has no spoiler warning, and then find out the entire plot of Heroes before they watch it! I know this is an encyclopedia, but it is still really important to include spoiler warnings on all the pages which contain them. Why don't the articles about movie characters need spoiler warnings even though they contain the exact same spoilers that the articles about the movies do? Why did my spoiler warnings get deleted? Please can I have some help from an administrator? [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 09:41, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
:::I dislike spoiler warnings. May I ask how you believe how we can have an article about anything without filling you in on some kind of plot detail? We may as well put it on every single page. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:46, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
::::I didn't mean a warning for EVERY spoiler, just the major ones. No, we don't need a spoiler warning because an article mentions that Ash sees through Team Rocket's disquise for the three-hundreth time, but if the article mentions that Latios dies, I think that REALLY needs a warning, don't you? [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 10:21, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::We don't need it most of the time but some of the bigger stuff (the few deaths, MD2's plot twist) could do with a warning. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 17:57, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::OK, so should I add one to Latios's article? I'm just worried I might start an edit war if someone removes it again. [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 18:18, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Eeeer Spoiler warnings should be given in each new section that relates to plot details of movies, past or upcoming, and only movies. Episodes shouldn't have spoiler warnings except in the article itself. Only specific characters that appear in the movies should have spoiler warnings as they relate to the character's role in that movie and potentially release information that some people do not want to see. For Example, characters like Latios should have spoiler warnings unless it is about the Pokémon species in general. :3 [[User:PsychicKris|PsychicKris]] 09:16, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

== Help! ==

Can someone tell me on how to include VS in the middle of 2 gym leaders,add winner at the end of two gym leaders and move the whole thing to the left?
This is the thing:
{| align="center" style="background: #00647f; -moz-border-radius: 10px; border: 4px solid #00647f;" colspan=4 cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- align="center"
! style="background: #00647f;" colspan="4" | 10th Pokémon League
|-
! style="background: #00647f;" colspan="2" align="center" | {{color|1cb0d9|Generations {{color2|1cb0d9|Generation II|II}} and {{color2|1cb0d9|Generation IV|IV}}}}
! style="background: #00647f;" colspan="2" align="center"|
|-
! style="background: #1cb0d9; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 5px;" |
[[Image:VSBrock.png|left|Brock]] [[Image:VSJasmine.png|center|Jasmine]]
[[Image:VSMisty.png|left|Misty]] [[Image:VSWhitney.png|right|Whitney]]
[[Image:VSLtSurge.png|left|LtSurge]] [[Image:VSMorty.png|right|Morty]]
[[Image:VSSabrina.png|left|Sabrina]] [[Image:VSBugsy.png|right|Bugsy]]
[[Image:VSJanine.png|left|Janine]] [[Image:VSFalkner.png|right|Falkner]]
[[Image:VSBlue.png|left|Blue]] [[Image:VSChuck.png|right|Chuck]]
[[Image:VSErika.png|left|Erika]] [[Image:VSPryce.png|right|Pryce]]
[[Image:VSBlaine.png|left|Blaine]] [[Image:VSClair.png|right|Clair]]
|}
{{-}}
[[User:Kingofun|Kingofun]] 03:17, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

:What, you mean something like this? With two different ways of doing it.
{| align="left" style="background: #00647f; -moz-border-radius: 10px; border: 4px solid #00647f;" colspan=5 cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- align="center"
! style="background: #00647f;" colspan="5" | 10th Pokémon League
|-
! style="background: #00647f;" colspan="3" align="center" | {{color|1cb0d9|Generations {{color2|1cb0d9|Generation II|II}} and {{color2|1cb0d9|Generation IV|IV}}}}
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| rowspan="2" | [[Image:VSBrock.png|left|Brock]]
! VS
| rowspan="2" | [[Image:VSJasmine.png|center|Jasmine]]
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! WINNER <nowiki>>>></nowiki>
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| [[Image:VSMisty.png|left|Misty]]
! result
| [[Image:VSWhitney.png|right|Whitney]]
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| [[Image:VSLtSurge.png|left|LtSurge]]
! result
| [[Image:VSMorty.png|right|Morty]]
|-
| [[Image:VSSabrina.png|left|Sabrina]]
! result
| [[Image:VSBugsy.png|right|Bugsy]]
|-
| [[Image:VSJanine.png|left|Janine]]
! result
| [[Image:VSFalkner.png|right|Falkner]]
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! FORFEIT
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! WINNER
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! style="background: #1cb0d9; border-radius-topleft: 5px;" colspan="3" |
|-
| [[Image:VSBlue.png|left|Blue]]
! result
| [[Image:VSChuck.png|right|Chuck]]
|-
| [[Image:VSErika.png|left|Erika]]
! result
| [[Image:VSPryce.png|right|Pryce]]
|-
| [[Image:VSBlaine.png|left|Blaine]]
! result
| [[Image:VSClair.png|right|Clair]]
|}
{{-}}
:[[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 02:20, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
::That reminds me of the gym leader comp in pokespe. [[User:Lunick v sonela|Lunick v sonela]] 19:06, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
:::That's because it is. '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 13:18, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

== Can anyone? ==

Tell me the link for Pokemon Heartgold and soulsilver on "Red" I want to see what his pokemon are. [[User:DialgaPrimeX|DialgaPrimeX]] 21:21, 13 September 2009 (UTC)DialgaPrimeX
:The information isn't actually up yet, but it's the same as Generation II but with Lapras instead of Espeon. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:23, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

ok Thanks [[User:DialgaPrimeX|DialgaPrimeX]] 21:24, 13 September 2009 (UTC)DialgaPrimeX

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Red_(game)#HeartGold_and_SoulSilver is the link, just in case you still needed it - [[User:Samjohn95|Samjohn95]] 22:07 20 September

== Standard Pokémon Images ==

I brought up this topic on the Project Pokédex discussion, but I didn't get any replies, so I though I'd bring it here instead. This is just a suggestion... do you think it would be better not to use the Emerald and Platinum artwork on the Hoenn and Sinnoh starters' pages? I've noticed that on the official online Pokédexes, as well as recent official books, their RS and DP artwork is still used, and appears to be their "standard" artwork. I know they are the more recent, but Ken Sugimori's Emerald and Platinum illustrations are simply promotional art for those games, and are not considered "standard" by Nintendo. What I'm trying to say is, if Bulbapedia were an official Pokémon site overseen by Nintendo, the Emerald and Platinum artwork wouldn't be used in the main articles, they would use the RS and DP art instead. Does anyone agree with me? Sorry if I made this sound confusing, I didn't really know how else to put it! [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 09:54, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
:I get what you're saying, but I disagree. We use the latest Sugimori artwork. It ''is'' official artwork, even if for consistency Nintendo uses the RS and DP artwork. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 10:05, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

== New Routes? ==

Why aren't there articles for Routes 47 and 48 yet? Shall I create them? [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 16:43, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
:Yeah, feel free to create them. People probably just haven't got around to it yet or haven't got that far. [[User:Solar Dragon|Solar Dragon]] 17:10, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
::Actually it is protected from creation. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 22:27, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
:::All we know is that they have some trainers and a few other things. Not much to go by right now. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 05:49, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
::::I went back to my roots and took care of making both at least to par. More details will be added when we get them of course. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:41, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
Serebii.net has screenshots of the new routes. Do you think they would let us use them on Bulbapedia if we asked nicely? --[[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon777''''']] '' 17:02, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
::Serebii gets grumpy when we take his images, so probably not. –'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 17:06, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
:::We'll get our own ASAP. Juuuust gotta find the, ahem, thing to do so. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 10:22, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

== Color change ==

I think we'll keep the GS styling until October 15. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:57, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
:What's so significant about the 15th? --[[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon777''''']] '' 21:17, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
::It's a day after the anime premiered. In the US, that is. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|You enter a poorly lit room...]] 22:08, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
::And by anime in the US I meant Johto Journeys and in Japan AND America. Probably completely different from TTE's reason though. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|You enter a poorly lit room...]] 22:10, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
:::Nope. Day GS came out. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 13:06, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
::::Oh! That's logical. --[[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon777''''']] '' 21:38, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

== Summary ==

Why isn't there a page for the summary pages? Or if there is, where is it? [[User:Thermorules123|Thermorules123]] 18:14, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
:Subsection of menu article: [[Menu#Pokémon]]. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:28, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

== PokéPark Wii: Pikachu's Great Adventure ==

http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml Serebii reported that the new Wii game will apparently been called PokéPark Wii: Pikachu's Great Adventure!--[[User:Pokelova|''ポケモン恋人'']][[User talk:Pokelova|<big>''(会話)''</big>]] 08:35, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
:They also said that they are not 100% sure. I hope this isn't the game though... We don't need another dumb mini game. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 08:38, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
::So it's most likely a WiiWare game?--[[User:Pokelova|''ポケモン恋人'']][[User talk:Pokelova|<big>''(会話)''</big>]] 08:43, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
:::It is for certain a full Wii game to be sold for 4800 yen.--'''[[User:Immewnity|''Mew'']] [[User talk:Immewnity|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|Immewnity]]''' was here at 13:33, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

== Bulb ==

[[File:BP bulb.png|thumb]]
Could this be useful?--'''[[User:Immewnity|''Mew'']] [[User talk:Immewnity|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|Immewnity]]''' was here at 13:35, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
:What do you think it could be used for? we already got an image like that one.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 13:54, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
::The ugly-looking stub template... [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 13:56, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
:::We have one like this? 800px?--'''[[User:Immewnity|''Mew'']] [[User talk:Immewnity|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|Immewnity]]''' was here at 14:23, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
[[File:Bulbapedia logo.png|thumb|left]]
::::Though not in 800px.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 14:31, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
:::::That's the full logo w/ text. This is just bulby.--'''[[User:Immewnity|''Mew'']] [[User talk:Immewnity|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|Immewnity]]''' was here at 15:29, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
::::::If you had a problem with the stub template, you should have bitched about it then instead of now. Everyone else likes it because everyone else contributed in making it. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 19:05, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

==Creating Userspace Tabs==
Is it possible to create user: tabs? If so, how? [[User:Tandra88|Tandra88]] 02:15, 10 October 2009 (UTC)tandra88

:You mean a tab like at the top of the page? (article, discussion, edit?) It may be possible to make one with user .css coding, but it's a bit complicated, especially depending on what you want it for.
:But what do you need one for? Are you asking how to make one for yourself, or suggesting a new tab for the wiki itself? --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 15:04, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
:No, I mean the tabs that appear on your userpages.[[User:Tandra88|Tandra88]] 19:38, 10 October 2009 (UTC)tandra88
::Perhaps you mean {{bp|usertags}}. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:12, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

==Game Screenshots==
I was wondering where this site normally gets it's game screenshots from.[[User:Tandra88|Tandra88]] 21:24, 11 October 2009 (UTC)tandra88
:We tend to take our own, thanks. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 10:08, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

==Heartgold Soulsilver pics==

How come routes and cities still don't have new pics from HeartGold and SoulSilver up yet?- ''unsigned comment from {{u|KantoLegend}} ([[User talk:KantoLegend|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/KantoLegend|contribs]]) ''
:Probably because we haven't uploaded them yet.--'''[[Water (type)|Liquid]]''' [[Mask of Ice|'''ICE''']] (User:Cold)([[user:Cold|page]], [[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 21:58, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
::the game have been out for over a month now should someone have done it yet? --[[User:KantoLegend|KantoLegend]] 22:04, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
:::We'd do it if we had them. Clearly, we don't. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:08, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
::::You act as if it's easy to get those maps. Camera hacks and about 300-400 screenshots need to be edited together to do them. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 10:17, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
:::::How do you make maps for DS games when the perspective of the 3D world changes every time you move? --[[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon777''''']] '' 09:53, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
::::::{{tt|Magic|hacking}}, of course. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:55, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
:::::::If the games didn't have maps, then the locations would simply not exist. Even though the graphics provide a more realistic perspective of the in-game world, the maps are still 2D. ;-) [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 19:32, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
::::::::I never knew that! Well, you learn something new every day! --[[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon777''''']] '' 22:48, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::You're welcome. ;-) Well, I said that in a very summarized way; of course it is far more complicated than that. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 17:27, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

== Lemonade ==

I saw the note on the main page about Lemonade being orange juice in Japanese. This is not the case; in fact it's a sweet milk drink. I have corrected the information on the Drinks page. See the talk page there for more info. [[User:Thorf|Thorf]] 14:50, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

== Unprotect the Pokémon pages ==

There's no need to protect the pages for the Pokémon species anymore since Studio Bebop shut down. --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 20:40, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
:The staff know what we're doing. Hold your horses. You'll get your pages back soon enough. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:28, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

::Besides, what if Studio Bebop is trying to continue their work underground? If we unlocked the pages now and it turns out Studio Bebop's not actually dead, then Studio Bebop could send someone to mess up our coding just to get their application back up and running, quite possibly someone who would sockpuppet to keep making their employer money. We'd best off wait until it can be undoubtely confirmed Studio Bebop has met its demise.

::Actually, how can I be sure you're actually on Bulbapedia's side here? A request like this sounds quite possibly like something an insider working with Studio Bebop might ask for...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 22:40, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
:::I've been wondering, why were all the pages protected in the first place? I mean, I know there were non-visible changes being made to them, but what exactly? From what's said here, it sounds to me like the pages were being edited specifically to sabotage that Pokedex app or something. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 23:29, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

::::If I revealed any more, I'd have to permablock you. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 23:58, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
:::::Pokémon pages will be unprotected mid-month. Maintenance work, you see. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:34, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
:Isn't Studio Bebob infeinging? Can't we sue the company or send a message to apple requesting its removal from the app store? '''''-'''''[[User:LugiaRocks|'''LugiaRocks''']] ([[User talk:LugiaRocks|''Talk'']] ★ [[Special:Contributions/LugiaRocks|''Edits'']]) 05:40, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
::A lot of talking has been done behind closed doors. It isn't too much of an issue now. We've already taken into consideration what you have suggested.--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[User talk:RexRacer|Racer''']] 17:37, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
And now it looks like Studio Bebop now has their website back up, the way it was when it went down, proving they're probably not dead after all. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 02:15, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
:::I think we should either let them use it, or make a compromise to make it work. Maybe they give some of the money made from that app to Bulbapedia since the people using the app cant click on ads and get us money. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]]
::::But Bulbapedia is non-profitable, and it is not fair to for them to get money because it is the ''editors'' work they are using.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 14:12, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

== Downtime from November 5th ==

Will I still be able to view Bulbapedia during this time even if I can't edit? --[[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon777''''']] '' 10:20, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
:Yes, you will. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:23, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
::So its not really downtime, its just being closed. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 14:03, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
:::How about Archives and News? Will they be closed as well?
:::What about BMGf? It seems I can't read any thread, open my PM page or visit anybody's profile page (I get a database error), is this related? '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 17:16, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
::::Archives shouldn't matter for you, you're an admin there! =] I'm sure if you want to do stuff there, like delete/move any unused episode/movie screenshots, no one would mind. That sort of stuff is considered maintinence as well. ;) ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 17:21, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::Yeah, I only asked because I was unsure if it concerns all wikis (regardless of if it concerns me in that wiki). But, I think there is something seriously wrong with the servers ATM. Along with the forums being broken for the most parts, I get this when I try to open my watchlist at Archives: [http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/1485/dberror1.png <nowiki>http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/1485/dberror1.png</nowiki>] (watchlist at BP works well) '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 17:49, 2 November 2009
::::::You're not the only one. It's been like that all day. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 18:02, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::::these server issues are unrelated and just a (bad) coincidence. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 19:08, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

== Links to Wikipedia articles ==
A few Species articles have been made recently on Wikipedia. This is the final tally. Some are already linked, such as MissingNo. and Pikachu. Since the articles are locked, can an admin link these?
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MissingNo. MissingNo.] · [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charizard Charizard] · [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pikachu Pikachu] · [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jigglypuff Jigglypuff] · [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abra,_Kadabra,_and_Alakazam Abra, Kadabra, and Alakazam] · [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koffing_and_Weezing Koffing and Weezing] · [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Mime Mr. Mime] · [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jynx Jynx] · [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mewtwo Mewtwo] · [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mew_(Pokémon) Mew] · [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unown Unown] · [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rayquaza Rayquaza] · [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucario Lucario] '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 14:03, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

:We don't link Wikipedia. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 14:38, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
::I know you're very enthusiastic about having recreated so many Pokémon articles on Wikipedia, Blake - but why should the BP link to them when the articles here are superior? '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 14:45, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
:::The links were already on the articles for Missingno and Pikachu(and maybe a few others, I diddnt notice). I am not ''proposing'' you link them. I figured it was in the Manual of Style to link them. Also, Bulbapedia articles arent ''Superior''. Wikipedia has information Bulbapedia doesnt. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 01:01, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

== Adds ==

I have noticed for a while that there has been lots of adverts around the perimeter of articles etc on bulbapedia, i was just curious why theyre there?--'''[[User:MysteryHeff?|MỸŠŦЄЯỸ]][[Special:Contributions/MysteryHeff?|ЊӘҒҒ]]''' [[User Talk:MysteryHeff?|TALK]] 01:41, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
:The ads are there for people who dont have accounts. We have to get money for the servers from ''somewhere''. When you are logged in they should go away though. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 01:50, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
::Okay, thats understandable. I hadn't checked for the adds after i signed in, but now I've noticed they're gone. Thanks.--'''[[User:MysteryHeff?|MỸŠŦЄЯỸ]][[Special:Contributions/MysteryHeff?|ЊӘҒҒ]]''' [[User Talk:MysteryHeff?|TALK]] 01:56, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
:::When I was signed it I saw a six pack add.... '''''-'''''[[User:LugiaRocks|'''LugiaRocks''']] ([[User talk:LugiaRocks|''Talk'']] ★ [[Special:Contributions/LugiaRocks|''Edits'']]) 02:01, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
::::There's a bad ad reporting thread on the forums. If you see something inappropriate, click on the link in the sidebar and away you go. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:19, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::Whilst logged out, "get ripped in 4 weeks" was in Bulbasaur's article. Is that really appropriate in what is essentially a children's site? --[[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon777''''']] '' 11:34, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
::::::The {{BMGf|29680|Bad ad reporting thread}} is for that stuff as trom said before. it is even the example used of the list of link templates page :D--[[User:Dion24|D i]] [[Special:Contributions/Dion24|o n]] [[User talk:Dion24|2 4]] 11:44, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Do I need to make a seperate account to use this forum? I tried logging in with my Bulbapedia username and password and it didn't work. --[[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon777''''']] '' 13:34, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Yes, the wiki and forums are completely different things. It would be almost impossible to link them together like that. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 13:53, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

== Kana Names ==

Hiya, I was just looking at a few articles and noticed that the names of several characters as they appear in japanese have not be translated properly into romaji, or japlish. For example, the article for the character Sir Aaron ( http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Sir_Aaron ) Had the name translated into "Arlon", which is incorrect. アーロン translates directly into Aaron as the " - " is used as a prolonged sound mark and since the first character is A the proper translation is Aaron.

We need to completely revise every single article to that the kana (katakana or hiragana) is written first as a direct translation, and in brackets, the pronunciation/What it is with english spelling.
For Example;
*アーロン Aaron (Aaron)
*ジラルダン Jirarudan (Geraldan/ Gelardan)

Those are just two examples that relate to human characters alone, I dont not know the full extent of this error throughout the Pokémon but im sure it's quite a few.

P.S. the use of macrons isn't exactly part of japanese speech so I dont really approve of that o.o not that it really matters, I just think it is better to not use macrons for katakana and not just Hiragana. [[User:PsychicKris|PsychicKris]] 09:09, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

:So basically you are saying to take all of our '''official''' romanizations and change them into Engrish. Yeah, I don't think so.. Arlon is the official romaji for アーロン. It can be seen on various Japanese merchandise printed as "Arlon" in romaji. Know that ロ doesn't strictly mean "ro". It can also be used for "lo" since there isn't any Japanese characters espcially made for "l" sounds. Also, アー doesn't always mean "Aa". Extended "a" sounds are frequently used to pronounce as a long "r" sound such as "Ar".

:I suggest you do your research in how romanization works first before you tell us that a huge overhaul is needed. We are not changing {{p|Umbreon|Blacky}} to "Burakki" or {{p|Meowth|Nyarth}} to "Nyaasu". We don't work like that. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 10:15, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

== Pokemon Sugi images ==

I think alot of the images we have are too small. I dont know why. I just came across a webpage with very nice quality images. Maybe we could replace some of them? [http://light.cvgrenier.com/poke-creators/sugimori.htm here] is the webpage. Some I was considering to replace was for example {{p|Zubat}}. It's current image is wayy too small, and should be replaced with [http://www.light.cvgrenier.com/poke-creators/sugimori/041.png this]. Thoughts? '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 21:55, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

:They're fine. And we aren't going to steal any pictures from another site. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 22:28, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
::Did you even bother to visit the page? It says that they can be used freely, just don't hotlink to them (=use the Archives). If you ask me, replacing lowres pics from Archives is always okay. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 22:52, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
:::Since the site ''does'' say that anyone can take them as long as they aren't direct-linked (which we don't do anyways) I don't see why we couldn't use them. [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 22:54, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
::::I thinbk they're really good, we should use them! Except a couple of the Gen IV ones come up as "X"s on my computer. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 10:30, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::Now that I can reply.... I did go to the site, but I probably scrolled down right away. Most of the page wouldn't even load for me. But still. The size of the Zubat pic we have is fine. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 13:35, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
::::And the website mentioned is MY website. Yes, you can use the Sugimori images. Only 1 drawback. The new HG/SS artwork, even if it has transparancy, still has white marks arond the image, as if it have been a .JPG before...I don't know why, though. [[User:TokoyamiTheDark|TokoyamiTheDark]]''' 09:30, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

== Downtime ==

I've just noticed I can edit again! Is the maintenence finished already? [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 10:31, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
:Yeah. As notified in the Message from the Editor on the Main Page. And in the forums. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 10:36, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
::Wow, that was quick! [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 13:06, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

== Overworld HGSS Sprites? ==

Would it be a good idea for someone to get "partner pokémon" overworld sprites for each pokémon article? I just thought it would be a nice addition. From [[User:Samjohn95|Samjohn95]] 14:41, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

:Not a bad idea. Of course, most of the sysops have already just undertaken a huge task; they were [http://totaldramaisland.wikia.com/wiki/Chef_Hatchet slaving over a hot stove] [http://totaldramaisland.wikia.com/wiki/Brunch_of_Disgustingness cookin'] [http://totaldramaisland.wikia.com/wiki/Dolphin dolphin], getting [[User:Shiningpikablu252/Chef|no appreciation]]! We deserve a few days of rest...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 16:31, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
::You'd get plenty of appreciation from me if I new what any of that means! Thank you for your thoughts. From [[User:Samjohn95|Samjohn95]] 20:32, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
:::They've been ripped, we just haven't uploaded them yet because we haven't devised a system for doing so. We need to redesign the sprite box, among other things, as well, to show this. - ''unsigned comment from {{u|TTEchidna}} ([[User talk:TTEchidna|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TTEchidna|contribs]]) ''
::::Sounds like a big task. But if and when you do it, best of luck from me. Thanks! from [[User:Samjohn95|Samjohn95]] 21:13, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

== Pokemon Movie 2010 ==

[http://www.pokemon-movie.jp/ Official site]. Is there any reason an article for this movie doesnt exist yet? '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 04:02, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
:There was an article for it, called "Pikachu Project 2010", but it got deleted for some reason. Maybe it was because we didn't know enough about it and the article would have just been full of rumours and speculation. Although I think we know enough about it to recreate the article now! Perhaps an administrator should deal with that though. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 16:05, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
::There is an [[wp:Pokémon Movie 13|article on wikipedia about it]], but it is about to be deleted due to having almost no information on it. Basically we know the year, developer, location, and that it has something to do with {{p|Lugia}} and {{p|Ho-Oh}}. Its ok if the article doesn't get made, its just someone had to ask eventually. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 17:00, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
:::It was deleted because somebody made it when all we knew is that it had Lugia and Ho-Oh in it. TTE protected it for what should be obvious reasons. So. {{tt|As usual|meaning with ALL things that have come out in the past year}}, just wait for it to be OK'd by an admin, and don't go and ask for them to start it any time soon. It's not really that important right now, seeing as how [[Arceus and the Jewel of Life]] hasn't even premiered in English yet. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 21:41, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
:::: *cough* Australia *cough* —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:43, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::Eh. True. But still. We don't need the page yet. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 02:47, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
::::::I think there should still be an article about it. It could just contain the few details that we know, and be protected so people can't put in rumours and stuff. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 19:23, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

== Pokemon Bubbles ==

I've noticed that on many pages (especially small ones with infoboxes) there are parts where the pokemon descriptions overlap with other stuff. For example, [[Cissy]]. I want to put in a spacer in those pages for those pages but in the eyes of some people it creates too large of a gap. What do you presume we do? [[User:BrokenMotor|BrokenMotor]] 03:09, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
:What browser are you using? I see no overlaps with Cissy on Firefox or IE. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 05:57, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
::I've checked Opera and there seem to be no problem.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 07:15, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
I checked on Internet Explorer; I see what you mean. It says "Here is a list of Cissy's known Pokémon in the anime" and then there is a massive blank space before her list of Pokémon. It happens because the infobox gets in the way. This is just the way Bulbapedia is designed so I don't think anything can really be done about it. Unless her Pokémon boxes are made narrower, and I don't know how to do that! [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 11:27, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
:I see what you mean, it should look better now.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 11:43, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
::Ah, that's much better! Thanks for sorting it out! [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 13:08, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

==Whoa, whoa, whoa!==
Didn't know where I should put this, since it applied to a number of pages. I noticed that some Pokémon have been getting their Pokédex entries updated for HeartGold and SoulSilver just by duplicating the Gold and Silver version dex entries. Now, I understand that the Japanese entries may be the same, and that the English versions are likely to follow, but it's not unheard of for Nintendo to restructure the grammar or phrasing of the entry to better suit a modern game. Shouldn't there be something in the entries noting that these are unofficial translations, and liable to change? --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 12:44, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
:I think these should just be removed. Even if you do translate them, it will most likely be off. And they might change it for English anyways. I say just dummy the field. That way you wont have to edit all 493 pages. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 13:53, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
::I don't see what the problem is with translating and writing in what the Japanese says it is. First of all, everyone that is helping is fully aware (or at least should be) that they ''will'' be completely removed and replaced once the English versions come out. The point is to at least convey what it says so that people have an idea if they are interested enough to read it. I think as long as people are willing to help out, it's better to have it filled in than it is to just say 'Unknown' or something along those lines. As far as Generation I and II goes, they are fine without the Japanese with scroll-over English because they are "official" translations of the same exact text. Again, if it gets changed for the actual releases, then we would be replacing it anyways, so there should be absolutely no problem. ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 14:07, 18 November 2009 (UTC))
You can see English Pokédex entries in HGSS by trading an English Pokémon over to HGSS... -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 14:21, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
:Those are not the translated HGSS entries, but the English entries from DPPt. Thus, I have been removing them as I've seen them added to pages. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 14:24, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

== I didn't know where to put this so here I go ==

Can I make a page on the webcomic {{red link|Pokémon X (webcomic)|Pokémon X}}? I mean it's funny and all and has more pages then [[Super Effective|Super Effective (webcomic)]] and it's been around for longer. Link: http://pokemonx.comicgenesis.com. So um, is it worthy of its own article? [[User:Lunick v sonela|Lunick v sonela]] 20:54, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
:I'd say as long as it is to the point and doesn't turn into how it turned out when Recon Dye himself {{tt|made a page on Wikipedia about it|Before I successfully AFD'd it}}... '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 20:40, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
::Don't forget the é. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:31, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
:::Don't worry, I redirected it.--[[User:Smartkidhen|Smartkidhen]] 21:35, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

== Annuals? ==

Would it be worth creating an article about the Pokémon annuals? It could have a list of all of them and pictures of the front covers etc. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 17:43, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
:Never heard of them, but I know what they'll be like. Give it a shot. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:14, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
::OK, I don't actually have all the annuals but I can add in the details of the ones I have. I have all of them from 2003 onwards. What should the article be called? "Pokémon Annuals"? [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 22:34, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

== um... ==

a question about this place in General. Is Bulbapedia run by wikia?--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 05:22, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
:Hahahaha no. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 05:30, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
::NO!--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[User talk:RexRacer|Racer''']] 05:31, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
:what is it run by then? I mean it looks like a Wiki in all respects.--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 07:10, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
::Just because it ''is'' a wiki doesn't mean it's in any way affiliated with the Wikimedia Foundation or Wikia. You can get a wiki and install it without being run by them. Bulbapedia, Bulbanews, Bulbagarden Archives, and RPGwiki are all part of Bulbagarden. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:32, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
::um...can u tell me how to get a wiki that isn't run by wikia?--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 23:13, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
:::Wikia is a free wiki site. To get a wiki like this, you have to download the WikiMedia stuff on your computer or server that will hold all the files and everything for your wiki. Its free, but you have to provide the server and domain. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 17:34, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
::::MediaWiki is the program. Wikimedia is the organization that owns Wikipedia (as its not-for-profit portion) and Wikia (as its for-profit potion). If you wanna know more about the program, though, head on over to [[mw:MediaWiki|the website]]. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:04, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::Actually, Wikimedia is completely unaffiliated with Wikia. The Wikimedia foundation is a charitable organization which runs several wikis including Wikipedia and Wiktionary, and Wikia is a for-profit wiki farm. No connection whatsoever other than that they were both founded by Jimbo Wales. --[[User:Yair rand|Yair rand]] 07:17, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

== Pictures ==

Hi, I'm currently working on a new article, "Pokémon annual". Does anyone know where I can get pictures of the front covers of the annuals? Would it be OK to take them from photobucket or something similar? I don't have a scanner so I can't scan my own copies of the books. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 11:57, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
:Some covers can still be found on Amazon UK (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Pokemon-Annual-2010/dp/1906918139/). I think the images can be used as long as they don't have a site logo pasted on them. [[User:Mefredbob|Mefredbob]] 18:50, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
::They have pictures of all the annuals from 2006 onwards. I've uploaded them to the Archives. I also uploaded some pictures from other pages, but they have white gaps at the top and bottom. I uploaded a new version without the gaps but it stretched the image. Do you know why it did that? [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 12:55, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
:::Clear the cache (ctrl+shift+R). It takes a short while for the image to be completely viewable when you upload a newer version of the file. '''[[User:Kevzo8|Kev]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|zo8]]''' 13:21, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

== Hacked ==

It seems like the Pokemon Twitter account has been hacked. T.T --[[User:Pokelova|''ポケモン恋人'']][[User talk:Pokelova|''(離す)'']][[Special:Contributions/Pokelova|''(貢献)'']] 20:48, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
:It was fake to begin with. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 20:49, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
::But it seemed so real. T_T --[[User:Pokelova|''ポケモン恋人'']][[User talk:Pokelova|''(離す)'']][[Special:Contributions/Pokelova|''(貢献)'']] 21:24, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
:::This isn't the place to discuss this, go vent at the forums if you must. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:26, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

== Admin Nominations ==

Why are the Admin Nominations closed right now? When will they be back open?--[[User:Smartkidhen|Smartkidhen]] 17:50, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
:Not in the forseeable future. The admin nomination system was an idea that proved to be... problometic. True, several of our admins and even EB members received their powers thanks to it, but also a lot of pointless nominations were made by users who didn't really think things through. At the moment, we don't have a pressing ''need'' for more staff members. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 18:17, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

== Can Anyone Help? ==

I want to make something like a personal sandbox like other people but i don't know how. What do you do? Make a page called User:Manaphy1/Sandbox or something? Help! --[[User:Manaphy1|Manaphy1]] 19:16, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
:Yep, that's pretty much it. Just go to your userpage, add "/Sandbox" to the end of the URL in the URL box and hit enter. Then, create the page. Just remember the {{bp|userspace policy}}~ - [[User:Kogoro|'''<sc>Kogoro</sc>''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<sc>Talk to me</sc>''']] - 19:27, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
::Ok. Thanks for the help. --[[User:Manaphy1|Manaphy1]] 20:09, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

== Get Firefox (or other browser) buttons ==

I think we should put buttons like the following on Bulbapedia in order to spread Firefox or, at least, any other major browser except IE:

http://images.spreadfirefox.com/affiliates/Buttons/firefox3/foxkeh-fx3-180x60.png

It should also look more "Pokémonish". For example, we could put a Pikachu in Foxkeh's place and replace its background with a Pokémon-related one, thus making the button more fitting for the 'Pedia. The only problem for me is that I'm not capable of editing pics at the moment. If anyone would like to do it, then feel free to do so and present your works. ;-) But remember that the trademarks must be preserved to remain legal. More info about that [http://www.spreadfirefox.com/affiliates/create_buttons here]. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 17:42, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
:Why should Internet Explorer not be spread? Also, why should Bulbagarden get browser buttons? It doesn't really matter what browser is being used. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 17:47, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
::Because IE does not respect web standards properly even in its latest version and there are still many people on IE6, despite the progressive decreasing of its usage. It's not a case of exclusive notability to Bulbapedia or Bulbagarden as a whole; it is instead a matter of importance to the web in general. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 17:59, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
:::Sounds like spam. Spam is bad. Duh.--[[User:Smartkidhen|Smartkidhen]] 18:02, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
::::It is not spam in any way. And buttons or banners don't force anyone to change. On the contrary, it might get people's attention to try a different browser, thus making them not use IE partially or totally by their will and not by forced change. ;-) [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 18:03, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
:::::Think about how the site's set up as it is. The site pretty much relies on Firefox for the majority of its interface (like the roundycorners, aniPNGs, and so on). It's just better to use it for this particular site, though downloading FF or not is all up to the user. It's not spam. >_> ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 18:11, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
::::::I think this is a good idea - Bulbapedia really does look awful on IE (when you know what BP is ''supposed'' to look like, at least), and the site certainly does rely on FF. And I'd be willing to make a button for the cause. :3 [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 18:14, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Maybe it should not say "Download Firefox". It should say something like "Firefox recommended to view site properly" or something like that. - [[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 18:16, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

::::::::Besides, we don't want to make it look like Bulbapedia is outright playing favorites with any certain browser. Including a button that blatantly makes it appear that we're playing favorites with Firefox and make it look like Firefox is required to even view most of the site would give us a bad reputation amongst the Internet community. I, for one, don't plan to switch away from Internet Explorer anytime soon, especially to something as sucky and non-standards-compliant as Firefox. If we do include browser buttons like that, we should include browser buttons for multiple browsers, and yes, that would include one for Internet Explorer 8. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 18:25, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::It doesn't really matter what browser is used, so I don't think there should be browser buttons. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 18:27, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::I am not touching your implication that IE is standards compliant with a ten-foot pole, but you do realize what the "moz" in "-moz-border-radius" stands for, right? [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 18:30, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::It stands for mozilla, the company that manages Firefox right? But anyways, this is starting to become forums content, so I think it should be moved to the forums. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 18:35, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

:(reset) Yeah, this is indeed all better fit for the forums any way one looks at it. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 19:06, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

== Distorted images ==

I've noticed that a lot of Ken Sugimori's Pokémon artwork is being replaced with larger, higher quality versions. While this is a good idea, the "shrunk" versions of these images on the Pokémon species articles look horribly pixelated and distorted. Is this normal or is it something to do with my computer? [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 13:55, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
:Someone else asked the same question, about different pictures that were also being updated [[User talk:MAGNEDETH#Pictures|here]], so I hope this helps you. --[[User:Smartkidhen|Smartkidhen]] 23:49, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
::Wow, that's a long discussion! Thanks! [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 12:34, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

==Google Translate==

I'm going to make an account on the french bulbapedia and make some wanted articles by using google translate. Help would be much apprieciated. [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 15:29, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
:Um.... while help is good, I certainly wouldn't want articles written by google translate on my encyclopedia. I believe the French editors would likely feel the same. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:38, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
::And, uh, you certainly aren't thinking of translating our articles into French, you were gonna write them yourself, right?--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[User talk:RexRacer|Racer''']] 01:45, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
:::There is no French Bulbapedia. Poképedia is its own wiki, not part of bulbagarden. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 01:51, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
::::they are part of [[Encyclopaediae Pokémonis]]. they are partners of ours. also, no, never trust Google translate for anything. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 01:59, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
:::::I wouldn't trust a translator, it might mess up all the grammar. However, it would be a good incentive to learn French! [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 15:18, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

::::::Although there are times I rev up Babelfish, another online translation service, never do I use machine translations as a primary source for translation. If I ever rev up Babelfish for anything wiki-related, it's usually trying to figure out just how inter-wiki links should go on wikis where the interwiki bots do nothing (that is, the French, Polish, and Portuguese ends, as well as the Spanish end which doesn't even have a dedicated interwiki bot). --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 17:58, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
:::::::google translate has always been OK for me... but i've only made one article, so thats ok, i'll stop. [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 16:43, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
::::::::If you absolutely need a translation, I recommend to use Google Translate only from translating other languages into English. From there, you can fix any grammar errors and other things. What I don't recommend is using Google translate as a PRIMARY source of translations. - [[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 17:21, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

== Maybe it's just chrome... ==

But the Bulbapedia Logo is not the bulbapedia logo. It's a picture of a man dressed as a fairy.
:Could just be my computer, but I'll upload screenshots if no one else sees it.[[User:DCM]] 15:02, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
::I'm using Chrome, and that isn't happening. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 15:04, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
:::lol. I'd love to see the screenshots. - [[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 15:14, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
::::I don't see it. But I'm not using Chrome. I'll check though... nope. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 01:18, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
:::::Try clearing your cache? [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 01:56, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
::::::Pics or it didn't happen. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:14, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Sometimes things glitch in browsers. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:11, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

When there's a countdown on the home page, it really should say what it is counting down to. I mean, I'm assuming it's the HGSS release, but now everyone will realise that. It should say "______ until US HeartGold and SoulSilver release!" [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 18:32, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
: _http://s380.photobucket.com/albums/oo245/Darth_Cookie_Monster/?action=view&current=WHATISTHIs.jpg check it out. The fairy guy in the upper corner. (just remove the line at the beginning of the link) [[User:DCM]] 23:16, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
:: This happened to me once on Firefox. Only it was a painting of a bottle of wine and a wine glass. The solution to the problem was uninstalling then reinstalling the browser. Don't know if it'll work in this case. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 23:19, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
:::Clearing the cache should fix it in the same manner (presumably you cleared the cache when you reinstalled, Kenji-girl). Most likely the browser is sending a request to the server for the correct image, and through missed packets or something of the sort, getting the wrong image back. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 00:09, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

== Zelda and Mario wiki links. ==

Why do we have Zeldawiki and Mariowiki links at the bottom of the main page??--[[User:Smartkidhen|Smartkidhen]] 20:55, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
:Because bulbapedia is now a part of something called TEIEN, which the other two wikis are also a part of. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 20:58, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
::instead of linking to Wikipedia for any cross-Nintendo things, we would like to rather link to another independent wiki, like ourselves. the TEIEN thing is nothing right now. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 21:11, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

:::Nevertheless, we could find a way to display them better...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 21:34, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

::::We've got a topic set up for that in the forums, Shining. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 21:44, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

== Sprites ==

Could you please resubmit all sprites in .gif format? My computer can't process .pngs correctly. [[User:Magikarp123193|magikarp123193]] 17:19, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
:I don't think people would go to the trouble of resubmitting 1000+ sprites in GIF format just for one person. If it was a mass problem, then...maybe. :v [[User:Tyro|Tyro]] 17:28, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
::So? Mine doesn't either as I'm using Chrome and IE. Does it really matter? It'll probably be in the newest versions of IE and Chrome if it gets one. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 22:18, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
:::Chrome and IE have nothing to do with it, unless you're using IE 5 or something older. It also depends on your computer. You could have the newest IE, and it still wouldn't work right if your computer can't process anything right anyways. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 22:45, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
::::I have Internet Explorer 7 and the PNGs don't work for me. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 19:44, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
:::::My above message was a mistake on my part. I though they meant animated PNGs. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 19:46, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
::::::Then it's your computer, Taromon. It has nothing to do with IE, just the processors in your computer that read the data and show images. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 21:17, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Hang on, is this discussion about animated PNGs, or PNGs just being viewable? I can view PNGs fine, but the animated ones don't move on my computer. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 18:59, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Animated pngs don't work in IE, you just get the first frame of the image as a static picture. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 20:31, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::Have the GIFs themselves been removed completely? If not, I'd suggest maybe there's a way so that if the user is using an incompatible browser, then the GIF shows up. Not everyone uses Firefox, you know... '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 20:43, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::None of the GIFs have been deleted to my knowledge. We're using the new animated PNGs for the HGSS sprites only, as far as I can tell. At least, so far. And it's not worth it to redo every anPNG sprite into GIFs just so we IE users can see it, because then we'd have to replace the anPNGs on the actual pages. There aren't any ways to get the anPNGs and GIFs to only show to whatever browser somebody is using. And on top of that, we don't have the ability to detect which browser is being used anyways, which would make the anPNG/GIF switching system moot, since it wouldn't work. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 22:31, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::::It is, actually, possible to detect a user's browser, though I don't think it's possible to replace page content accordingly - and if there was it would probably put a ''lot'' of strain on the server.
:::::::::::Conclusion: use Firefox! It is free, standards-compliant, and awesome! [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 22:46, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
We have that? I know there are ways you could, but I didn't think that we, as Bulbapedia, had the ability to do that. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 22:54, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
:If the GIF thing is possible without putting a strain on the server, it would be a good idea.
:I don't think use firefox is a good conclusion. Chrome is just as good (at least before the new tab page started messing up). IE is also a good option, even though it isn't standards compliant.
:Better conclusion: It doesn't matter what browser you use as long as it works for you. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 23:22, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
::It's a good idea, just that we'd have to find people who'd be willing to go through every HGSS sprite and make a GIF version of it. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 23:29, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
:::As long as you're not using IE5 or something pngs will render correctly. Whether they will animate or not is dependent on your browser, but really, you're not missing too much. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:35, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

== border-radius [FYI] ==

Well, since it was discussed here before (archive 8)… I've tested border-radius CSS property in the recent pre-alpha of Opera 10.50 and it appears to be working. So, when adding new styles please consider adding this unprefixed version too. So, if you want 1em border radius you need to write:

-moz-border-radius: 1em; /* Mozilla Fx prefixed as currently used here. May be unneeded in the far future but probably not now. */

border-radius: 1em; /* Unprefixed version as defined by CSS standard. */

It would be quite some time until it hits release (windows version will be released earlier though) but it'll save you from future hassle of adding this. Somewhere in the future other browsers will implement this as an unprefixed property too. It breaks nothing. Though it is recommended that you write prefixed version ''before'' an unprefixed one. — [[User:Tenno Seremel|Tenno Seremel]] 02:13, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

:Hmm, what I think I may do is build the border-radius style (prefixed and unprefixed) into a div class, so it can be handled directly from the CSS page; as it is, it's already going to be a big job to take all the rounded codes and templates and update them separately. Best to plan ahead for this. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 13:03, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

== Johto Trainers renamed! ==

It's just been announced on Serebii.net, Gold is called Ethan and Kotone is called Lyra. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 12:42, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
:Nothing will be changed until we have the games in-hand. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 13:23, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

I added that to the HG/SS page. --[[User:Vampirebidoof|Vampirebidoof]] 20:37, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
:No. No, no no no. Please do not add anything about the HGSS names Serebii (or Pokemon.com's Lyra) reported. Just don't. Wait until the games are released. ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 20:43, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

The Admins for Team Rocket got new names too. --[[User:Sparen|~Sparen of Iría~]] 23:28, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
:So the new policy around here is "don't trust Serebii"? If he ever posts wrong information, he states that it's wrong and posts it to warn others not to believe it. Besides, he did reveal the Generation IV Pokémon names way beforehand. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 01:32, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
::We've always been cautious, we're just being more cautious. And {{tt|we're|everybody who's had to deal with it...}} also extremely annoyed at everybody who's been ignoring conversations about everything, yet still adding the info. And a few users have even tried getting around protections and warnings on pages. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 03:03, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
:::The policy's not "don't trust Serebii" as much as it is "let us verify it ourselves". I mean, hey, do you have access to Nintendo's internal files, or someone with a prerelease you-know-what of HGSS? Why trust Serebii? He could say that Gold's name is Josh and we'd believe him. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:22, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

== Screenshots with characters ==

Do screenshots with the main characters such as Gold or Lucas really need to be categorized with their name? It makes their category really cluttered. I just don't get it. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 21:58, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
:I assuming you're speaking regarding categorization at the Bulbagarden Archives. It's for organisational purposes; if a user is looking for a screenshot of Gold or Lucas, then he can search through the category. If you have issues with the system, its probably best to ask {{u|Maverick Nate}} directly. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 04:30, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

== Temporary Mewtwo Theme? ==
Is there any way we could change the Main Page for Mewtwo for just Today, the 6th? It is Mewtwo's Birthday...--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 05:15, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
:Sure, why not. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:20, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
::Oh, I was wondering why everything was so pink. At first I started thing Mew. Anyways, happy birthday Mewtwo! [[User:Fudgenuggets|Fudgenuggets]] 09:00, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
:::That's a great idea! Happy birthday Mewtwo! [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 12:55, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
::::Can you change back now? Coz i liked the old one. Maybe on the day HGSS are released we could have a "Shiny" theme, because of the "Birthday" of the "Shiny's"! [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 12:52, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::Happy B'Day Mewtwo. --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 13:48, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::No shiny day please >< --'''[[user:Emp|Emp]], out''' 14:43, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::How would we do a shiny theme? Better if we do a... you know, HGSS theme because that's when it's coming out? If we were to have a shiny day because GS introduced the concept... then... does that mean we'll have a Hold Item day and a Pokérus Day? D8 ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 17:38, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Um, Mewtwo's birthday is over now, please can we revert to something a little less bright? ;) [[User:Kidburla|Kidburla]] 23:01, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
:Yeah, back to the HGSS theme. Until the end of the month. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:51, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

== Latest Message from the Editor ==
"(really, creating the Sinnoh Pokédex listing was no big deal)" This should be removed. You are telling people not to create articles for bragging rights and then immediately bragging about an important article you created. The editor-in-chief's behavior should be exemplary. [[User:Ultimara6|Ultimara6]] 07:39, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
:I think he was joking... :) [[User:Kidburla|Kidburla]] 23:03, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
::I was joking. See, the thing is, I made the Sdex listing when I was a noob. It looked like crap, was barely done at all, but I stuck with the style of the rest of the 'dex listings were at the time. Unfortunately what's happening today is that many of our articles, especially those made to circumvent the protection put on the title we planned to use, are '''absolute garbage'''. Seen the rant I put in the forums? Seen the deleted revision of the (wrongly-titled) "Jun (Anime)" page? Seen the first revision of [[Oblivia]], back when it was at "Region of oblivia"?
::See, I'm pointing it out. Making articles for bragging rights, to say "yay I'm the first revision" is dumb. When I made the Sinnoh Dex, I made it to compile the information we knew. I look back at it and say, "hey, that was pretty good for what we knew then", four years ago. The problem is, lately, people just make the pages so that there's something there, even if we know nothing. Heck, if that article were made by a new user today, it'd likely be at "shino dex numbers" and say "lucario is in the shinoh dex" and have a "THIS IS UNFINISHED" notice at the top.
::My behavior should indeed be exemplary. Which is why I point everyone to my first few contribs. Were they awesome? Of course they weren't. They suck compared to the templates and pages I make today. But they prove that all you need to do is learn the style before you do something dumb, and draw from other pages made before. Plus, hey, Zhen and Pie thought my first template ''sucked''. It was too huge. Now, you're new. Go out and make some awesome edits in areas we need it. If you have a Gen III game, play through it, Hoenn's where we're really lacking in good information. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:50, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Regardless, even if you were joking, in the context of the news post it sounds like you are bragging. The rest of the content of the news post, the fact that I am new, and the fact that people have made bad edits in the past are irrelevant.[[User:Ultimara6|Ultimara6]] 04:33, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
::::Haha. That actually has everything to do with it. It wouldn't sound out of context if you knew anything about TTE's personality. There's one of two things that most newer users normally don't understand: they either think that they can add their opinion to pages as fact and then use talk pages as a forum, ''or'' they think that this has to be formal all the time, every second, for every single little thing.
::::It doesn't have to be. If it was, then nothing would get done around here. There would only be the administrators and a few users editing. Yeah, most new users just join to have an account to say that they're part of the Pedia and they never edit, but there are a bunch of them that do actually help. We've had to be more strict than normal the past few months or so, maybe even half year, because of the hype of HGSS and the other games (not to mention [[M12]]). Even then, we're still not all that strict, as long as people follow the rules.
::::And really, you being new does have something to do with this. Instead of trying to point out a fault that doesn't exist, try editing something other than a talk page. We'll sometimes have users join just to complain about things on the talk page and never actually contribute, and I really hope that you won't be one of them. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 05:10, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::I'm sure your knowledge of who's who on the Bulbapedia administration team is unsurpassed, but you ignore the fact that most of the people who view this site are not admins, they are not even editors and probably don't even have an account, but people looking for information about Pokemon. For this fact, and despite the possible perception of this encyclopedia's subject matter, everything on the site should strive to be as NPOV as possible. When I read the news article I was perfectly fine with it, besides one parenthetical. I empathize with TTE's plight, and agree that the announcement was probably a necessary one, but it sticks in my craw that a "joke", as he calls it, would be jutting out of the news post like a sore thumb. I know nothing about TTE as a person, and I could really care less. I am simply voicing the opinion of what I feel would be the average Bulbapedia reader's. I thought that my suggestion might help to make the front page of the site, the thing that everyone who visits it sees, look a little more officious, and I'm surprised that it has been met as it has. [[User:Ultimara6|Ultimara6]] 05:32, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::I actually don't know much about many of the admins, and most of the users. As for who views and uses the site, I know most aren't admins or users. There's also the fact that most people who come here looking for information, don't really read much on the front page, other than maybe the news and the side menu that has the links. The reason that we're so relaxed here about some things, is that everybody is going to get offended by something. Heck, I know some people who hate Pokémon because of the rumors of witchcraft and Satanism that surfaced over 10 years ago, and they never bothered getting their facts straight. And there are some that think battling "animals" or "pets" is cruel, when it's just a video game, yet they go play Call of Duty and Halo and don't worry about actually ''killing'' something, in a sense. It's all a matter of opinion, and we try to keep things here nonPOV as you said. But how is one person's comment, much less the EoC on his own "Message from the Editor" section, really going to matter? Of course it's a POV, because it's in his words, from his mind. And it's a POV, because you think that it sounds... let's say, "unofficial" in a way. I really don't have a problem with it, because it's his section he can do whatever he wants. I don't think really anybody else would have a problem with it either. And if you want to get technical, this whole site is POV, because it's compromised of information from Pokémon fans. If it was from Yu-Ghi-Oh fans, the site would probably be a hate site, not an encyclopedia. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 06:09, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Seriously, Yu-Ghi-Oh fan/= Pokémon hater. Why would they have a reason to hate Pokémon? I know many fans of Yu-Ghi-Oh who like Pokémon. Grawp would make much more sense. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 20:59, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Regarding your comment on Gen III Echidna, I've got Ruby and Emerald, are there any articles I could help improve? [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 21:11, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
::::And I have Ruby and LeafGreen. Tell us what the wiki needs, TTE, and we can probably get right on it. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 12:38, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::I have Ruby, Emerald, and FireRed. I'll try helping by restarting Ruby and going through every route thoroughly when I get a chance. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 22:27, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::The only game I have that I'll be restarting any time soon is Pearl, but I think we have nearly all of that. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 04:09, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

== Whoa... ==

What's with the new design? I like it, but why was it changed? --[[User:Gen1king|''GEN'']]1[[User talk:Gen1king|KING]] 16:20, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
:Wait, my bad, didn't see the mewtwo thing :P Anyways, happy birthday Mewtwo! {{unsigned|Gen1king}}

==Ken Sugimori Artwork==

What's happening to Ken Sugimori's official artwork? New versions are being uploaded, which are incorrectly coloured and are so huge that they go all glitchy when viewed full-size. The images of Venusaur, Charizard, Blastoise and Rayquaza are clear examples. Would it be OK if I reverted them back to previous versions? Just thought I'd better check first, I don't want to start a "revert war". [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 13:54, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
:I reverted {{p|Lucario}}'s and got re-reverted saying "then find me a CMYK to RGB converter"... I think this is very unnecessary and should be changed back. Why make bigger off-color versions? '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 16:06, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
::I don't think that we need such huge images... all we use them for is in the infobox, and we don't really need 493+ of these hi-res images eating up space. And yeah, they have really messed up colors. :/ The older images from like 2005 or so are really small, though, so if someone could get the Sugimori art around like... idk 300-400 pixels high or so for the Pokémon? Not 1000+. D: ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 17:45, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Ummm... guys... this is a matter to talk to {{u|Immewnity}}... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 18:02, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

== An idea for the location articles ==

This is just an idea I had... on the articles about locations, such as routes, caves etc, how about a list of HMs required to fully explore the area? [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 13:43, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
:cool idea. [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 16:02, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
::I've just done it to all of Kanto's routes, I'll start on Johto soon! [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 19:45, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

== Pokemon Rumble Area Names ==

WON'T ANYONE USE US NAMES FOR THIS GAME'S AREAS IN POKEDEX ENTRIES?! THIS GAME WAS RELEASED IN THE US, YOU KNOW! [[User:Magikarp123193|magikarp123193]] 20:15, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
:Then please fix them. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 20:20, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
::I don't wanna! It's too much work! [[User:Magikarp123193|magikarp123193]] 20:24, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Main Page/Archive 9

2010-02-12T20:15:25Z

Magikarp123193: /* Pokemon Rumble Area Names */ new section

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== Previous discussions ==

* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 1|Archive 1]]
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* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 7|Archive 7]]
* [[Talk:Main Page/Archive 8|Archive 8]]

== Phantom Thief! Pokémon 7 Article ==

For the Phantom Thief! Pokémon 7 Article, should I use PTP701?

[[User:Kingofun|Kingofun]] 07:44, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
:Sounds good. [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''''''Cactus''']] 18:30, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

== Umm ==

Why is the main page theme Snorunt and Froslass?

PS: You can get rid of this and reply on my talk if you'd like. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 05:16, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
:September 9 and some other things. --[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 05:21, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
::I figured it was for September 9th, but why? --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 05:35, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
:::Echy knows more{{tt|.|:D}} --[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 05:36, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
::::⑨/⑨/⑨, KG. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:23, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
::::... I know, but WHY? What does Froslass and Snorunt have to do with 09/09/09? D= --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 06:25, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::⑨ deals with a character who has ice powers. --[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 06:26, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::Wow. It looks awesome. Happy Cirno day. Thanks, :3 '''[[User:Kevzo8|Kev]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|zo8]]''' 12:07, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

== SPOILERS!!!!!!! ==

{{spoilers}}
I added some spoiler warnings to the pages about movie characters, as they contained major spoilers for the movies in which they appeared, but then someone deleted them all! Surely it's really important to have warnings on these pages?! [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 14:13, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
:If you dont want to be spoiled, then dont look at the page. Simple '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 14:36, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
::But visitors need to be warned that there are spoilers on the page! What's the point in having any spoiler warnings at all if only some of the articles with spoilers have them? Some people might read the Latios (anime) article example, thinking it doesn't contain spoilers because it has no spoiler warning, and then find out the entire plot of Heroes before they watch it! I know this is an encyclopedia, but it is still really important to include spoiler warnings on all the pages which contain them. Why don't the articles about movie characters need spoiler warnings even though they contain the exact same spoilers that the articles about the movies do? Why did my spoiler warnings get deleted? Please can I have some help from an administrator? [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 09:41, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
:::I dislike spoiler warnings. May I ask how you believe how we can have an article about anything without filling you in on some kind of plot detail? We may as well put it on every single page. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:46, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
::::I didn't mean a warning for EVERY spoiler, just the major ones. No, we don't need a spoiler warning because an article mentions that Ash sees through Team Rocket's disquise for the three-hundreth time, but if the article mentions that Latios dies, I think that REALLY needs a warning, don't you? [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 10:21, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::We don't need it most of the time but some of the bigger stuff (the few deaths, MD2's plot twist) could do with a warning. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 17:57, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::OK, so should I add one to Latios's article? I'm just worried I might start an edit war if someone removes it again. [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 18:18, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Eeeer Spoiler warnings should be given in each new section that relates to plot details of movies, past or upcoming, and only movies. Episodes shouldn't have spoiler warnings except in the article itself. Only specific characters that appear in the movies should have spoiler warnings as they relate to the character's role in that movie and potentially release information that some people do not want to see. For Example, characters like Latios should have spoiler warnings unless it is about the Pokémon species in general. :3 [[User:PsychicKris|PsychicKris]] 09:16, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

== Help! ==

Can someone tell me on how to include VS in the middle of 2 gym leaders,add winner at the end of two gym leaders and move the whole thing to the left?
This is the thing:
{| align="center" style="background: #00647f; -moz-border-radius: 10px; border: 4px solid #00647f;" colspan=4 cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- align="center"
! style="background: #00647f;" colspan="4" | 10th Pokémon League
|-
! style="background: #00647f;" colspan="2" align="center" | {{color|1cb0d9|Generations {{color2|1cb0d9|Generation II|II}} and {{color2|1cb0d9|Generation IV|IV}}}}
! style="background: #00647f;" colspan="2" align="center"|
|-
! style="background: #1cb0d9; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 5px;" |
[[Image:VSBrock.png|left|Brock]] [[Image:VSJasmine.png|center|Jasmine]]
[[Image:VSMisty.png|left|Misty]] [[Image:VSWhitney.png|right|Whitney]]
[[Image:VSLtSurge.png|left|LtSurge]] [[Image:VSMorty.png|right|Morty]]
[[Image:VSSabrina.png|left|Sabrina]] [[Image:VSBugsy.png|right|Bugsy]]
[[Image:VSJanine.png|left|Janine]] [[Image:VSFalkner.png|right|Falkner]]
[[Image:VSBlue.png|left|Blue]] [[Image:VSChuck.png|right|Chuck]]
[[Image:VSErika.png|left|Erika]] [[Image:VSPryce.png|right|Pryce]]
[[Image:VSBlaine.png|left|Blaine]] [[Image:VSClair.png|right|Clair]]
|}
{{-}}
[[User:Kingofun|Kingofun]] 03:17, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

:What, you mean something like this? With two different ways of doing it.
{| align="left" style="background: #00647f; -moz-border-radius: 10px; border: 4px solid #00647f;" colspan=5 cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- align="center"
! style="background: #00647f;" colspan="5" | 10th Pokémon League
|-
! style="background: #00647f;" colspan="3" align="center" | {{color|1cb0d9|Generations {{color2|1cb0d9|Generation II|II}} and {{color2|1cb0d9|Generation IV|IV}}}}
! style="background: #00647f;" colspan="3" align="center"|
|-
| rowspan="2" | [[Image:VSBrock.png|left|Brock]]
! VS
| rowspan="2" | [[Image:VSJasmine.png|center|Jasmine]]
|-
! WINNER <nowiki>>>></nowiki>
|-
| [[Image:VSMisty.png|left|Misty]]
! result
| [[Image:VSWhitney.png|right|Whitney]]
|-
| [[Image:VSLtSurge.png|left|LtSurge]]
! result
| [[Image:VSMorty.png|right|Morty]]
|-
| [[Image:VSSabrina.png|left|Sabrina]]
! result
| [[Image:VSBugsy.png|right|Bugsy]]
|-
| [[Image:VSJanine.png|left|Janine]]
! result
| [[Image:VSFalkner.png|right|Falkner]]
|-
! FORFEIT
|
! WINNER
|-
! style="background: #1cb0d9; border-radius-topleft: 5px;" colspan="3" |
|-
| [[Image:VSBlue.png|left|Blue]]
! result
| [[Image:VSChuck.png|right|Chuck]]
|-
| [[Image:VSErika.png|left|Erika]]
! result
| [[Image:VSPryce.png|right|Pryce]]
|-
| [[Image:VSBlaine.png|left|Blaine]]
! result
| [[Image:VSClair.png|right|Clair]]
|}
{{-}}
:[[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 02:20, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
::That reminds me of the gym leader comp in pokespe. [[User:Lunick v sonela|Lunick v sonela]] 19:06, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
:::That's because it is. '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 13:18, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

== Can anyone? ==

Tell me the link for Pokemon Heartgold and soulsilver on "Red" I want to see what his pokemon are. [[User:DialgaPrimeX|DialgaPrimeX]] 21:21, 13 September 2009 (UTC)DialgaPrimeX
:The information isn't actually up yet, but it's the same as Generation II but with Lapras instead of Espeon. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:23, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

ok Thanks [[User:DialgaPrimeX|DialgaPrimeX]] 21:24, 13 September 2009 (UTC)DialgaPrimeX

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Red_(game)#HeartGold_and_SoulSilver is the link, just in case you still needed it - [[User:Samjohn95|Samjohn95]] 22:07 20 September

== Standard Pokémon Images ==

I brought up this topic on the Project Pokédex discussion, but I didn't get any replies, so I though I'd bring it here instead. This is just a suggestion... do you think it would be better not to use the Emerald and Platinum artwork on the Hoenn and Sinnoh starters' pages? I've noticed that on the official online Pokédexes, as well as recent official books, their RS and DP artwork is still used, and appears to be their "standard" artwork. I know they are the more recent, but Ken Sugimori's Emerald and Platinum illustrations are simply promotional art for those games, and are not considered "standard" by Nintendo. What I'm trying to say is, if Bulbapedia were an official Pokémon site overseen by Nintendo, the Emerald and Platinum artwork wouldn't be used in the main articles, they would use the RS and DP art instead. Does anyone agree with me? Sorry if I made this sound confusing, I didn't really know how else to put it! [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 09:54, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
:I get what you're saying, but I disagree. We use the latest Sugimori artwork. It ''is'' official artwork, even if for consistency Nintendo uses the RS and DP artwork. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 10:05, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

== New Routes? ==

Why aren't there articles for Routes 47 and 48 yet? Shall I create them? [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 16:43, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
:Yeah, feel free to create them. People probably just haven't got around to it yet or haven't got that far. [[User:Solar Dragon|Solar Dragon]] 17:10, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
::Actually it is protected from creation. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 22:27, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
:::All we know is that they have some trainers and a few other things. Not much to go by right now. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 05:49, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
::::I went back to my roots and took care of making both at least to par. More details will be added when we get them of course. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:41, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
Serebii.net has screenshots of the new routes. Do you think they would let us use them on Bulbapedia if we asked nicely? --[[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon777''''']] '' 17:02, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
::Serebii gets grumpy when we take his images, so probably not. –'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 17:06, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
:::We'll get our own ASAP. Juuuust gotta find the, ahem, thing to do so. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 10:22, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

== Color change ==

I think we'll keep the GS styling until October 15. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:57, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
:What's so significant about the 15th? --[[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon777''''']] '' 21:17, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
::It's a day after the anime premiered. In the US, that is. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|You enter a poorly lit room...]] 22:08, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
::And by anime in the US I meant Johto Journeys and in Japan AND America. Probably completely different from TTE's reason though. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|You enter a poorly lit room...]] 22:10, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
:::Nope. Day GS came out. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 13:06, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
::::Oh! That's logical. --[[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon777''''']] '' 21:38, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

== Summary ==

Why isn't there a page for the summary pages? Or if there is, where is it? [[User:Thermorules123|Thermorules123]] 18:14, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
:Subsection of menu article: [[Menu#Pokémon]]. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:28, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

== PokéPark Wii: Pikachu's Great Adventure ==

http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml Serebii reported that the new Wii game will apparently been called PokéPark Wii: Pikachu's Great Adventure!--[[User:Pokelova|''ポケモン恋人'']][[User talk:Pokelova|<big>''(会話)''</big>]] 08:35, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
:They also said that they are not 100% sure. I hope this isn't the game though... We don't need another dumb mini game. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 08:38, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
::So it's most likely a WiiWare game?--[[User:Pokelova|''ポケモン恋人'']][[User talk:Pokelova|<big>''(会話)''</big>]] 08:43, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
:::It is for certain a full Wii game to be sold for 4800 yen.--'''[[User:Immewnity|''Mew'']] [[User talk:Immewnity|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|Immewnity]]''' was here at 13:33, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

== Bulb ==

[[File:BP bulb.png|thumb]]
Could this be useful?--'''[[User:Immewnity|''Mew'']] [[User talk:Immewnity|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|Immewnity]]''' was here at 13:35, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
:What do you think it could be used for? we already got an image like that one.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 13:54, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
::The ugly-looking stub template... [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 13:56, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
:::We have one like this? 800px?--'''[[User:Immewnity|''Mew'']] [[User talk:Immewnity|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|Immewnity]]''' was here at 14:23, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
[[File:Bulbapedia logo.png|thumb|left]]
::::Though not in 800px.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 14:31, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
:::::That's the full logo w/ text. This is just bulby.--'''[[User:Immewnity|''Mew'']] [[User talk:Immewnity|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|Immewnity]]''' was here at 15:29, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
::::::If you had a problem with the stub template, you should have bitched about it then instead of now. Everyone else likes it because everyone else contributed in making it. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 19:05, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

==Creating Userspace Tabs==
Is it possible to create user: tabs? If so, how? [[User:Tandra88|Tandra88]] 02:15, 10 October 2009 (UTC)tandra88

:You mean a tab like at the top of the page? (article, discussion, edit?) It may be possible to make one with user .css coding, but it's a bit complicated, especially depending on what you want it for.
:But what do you need one for? Are you asking how to make one for yourself, or suggesting a new tab for the wiki itself? --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 15:04, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
:No, I mean the tabs that appear on your userpages.[[User:Tandra88|Tandra88]] 19:38, 10 October 2009 (UTC)tandra88
::Perhaps you mean {{bp|usertags}}. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:12, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

==Game Screenshots==
I was wondering where this site normally gets it's game screenshots from.[[User:Tandra88|Tandra88]] 21:24, 11 October 2009 (UTC)tandra88
:We tend to take our own, thanks. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 10:08, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

==Heartgold Soulsilver pics==

How come routes and cities still don't have new pics from HeartGold and SoulSilver up yet?- ''unsigned comment from {{u|KantoLegend}} ([[User talk:KantoLegend|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/KantoLegend|contribs]]) ''
:Probably because we haven't uploaded them yet.--'''[[Water (type)|Liquid]]''' [[Mask of Ice|'''ICE''']] (User:Cold)([[user:Cold|page]], [[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 21:58, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
::the game have been out for over a month now should someone have done it yet? --[[User:KantoLegend|KantoLegend]] 22:04, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
:::We'd do it if we had them. Clearly, we don't. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:08, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
::::You act as if it's easy to get those maps. Camera hacks and about 300-400 screenshots need to be edited together to do them. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 10:17, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
:::::How do you make maps for DS games when the perspective of the 3D world changes every time you move? --[[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon777''''']] '' 09:53, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
::::::{{tt|Magic|hacking}}, of course. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:55, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
:::::::If the games didn't have maps, then the locations would simply not exist. Even though the graphics provide a more realistic perspective of the in-game world, the maps are still 2D. ;-) [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 19:32, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
::::::::I never knew that! Well, you learn something new every day! --[[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon777''''']] '' 22:48, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::You're welcome. ;-) Well, I said that in a very summarized way; of course it is far more complicated than that. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 17:27, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

== Lemonade ==

I saw the note on the main page about Lemonade being orange juice in Japanese. This is not the case; in fact it's a sweet milk drink. I have corrected the information on the Drinks page. See the talk page there for more info. [[User:Thorf|Thorf]] 14:50, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

== Unprotect the Pokémon pages ==

There's no need to protect the pages for the Pokémon species anymore since Studio Bebop shut down. --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 20:40, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
:The staff know what we're doing. Hold your horses. You'll get your pages back soon enough. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:28, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

::Besides, what if Studio Bebop is trying to continue their work underground? If we unlocked the pages now and it turns out Studio Bebop's not actually dead, then Studio Bebop could send someone to mess up our coding just to get their application back up and running, quite possibly someone who would sockpuppet to keep making their employer money. We'd best off wait until it can be undoubtely confirmed Studio Bebop has met its demise.

::Actually, how can I be sure you're actually on Bulbapedia's side here? A request like this sounds quite possibly like something an insider working with Studio Bebop might ask for...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 22:40, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
:::I've been wondering, why were all the pages protected in the first place? I mean, I know there were non-visible changes being made to them, but what exactly? From what's said here, it sounds to me like the pages were being edited specifically to sabotage that Pokedex app or something. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] wants YOU! [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch/Bulbapedia Branch|Join the Order of the Glitch!]] [[User talk: Missingno. Master|(my talk page)]] 23:29, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

::::If I revealed any more, I'd have to permablock you. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 23:58, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
:::::Pokémon pages will be unprotected mid-month. Maintenance work, you see. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:34, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
:Isn't Studio Bebob infeinging? Can't we sue the company or send a message to apple requesting its removal from the app store? '''''-'''''[[User:LugiaRocks|'''LugiaRocks''']] ([[User talk:LugiaRocks|''Talk'']] ★ [[Special:Contributions/LugiaRocks|''Edits'']]) 05:40, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
::A lot of talking has been done behind closed doors. It isn't too much of an issue now. We've already taken into consideration what you have suggested.--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[User talk:RexRacer|Racer''']] 17:37, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
And now it looks like Studio Bebop now has their website back up, the way it was when it went down, proving they're probably not dead after all. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 02:15, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
:::I think we should either let them use it, or make a compromise to make it work. Maybe they give some of the money made from that app to Bulbapedia since the people using the app cant click on ads and get us money. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]]
::::But Bulbapedia is non-profitable, and it is not fair to for them to get money because it is the ''editors'' work they are using.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 14:12, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

== Downtime from November 5th ==

Will I still be able to view Bulbapedia during this time even if I can't edit? --[[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon777''''']] '' 10:20, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
:Yes, you will. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:23, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
::So its not really downtime, its just being closed. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 14:03, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
:::How about Archives and News? Will they be closed as well?
:::What about BMGf? It seems I can't read any thread, open my PM page or visit anybody's profile page (I get a database error), is this related? '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 17:16, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
::::Archives shouldn't matter for you, you're an admin there! =] I'm sure if you want to do stuff there, like delete/move any unused episode/movie screenshots, no one would mind. That sort of stuff is considered maintinence as well. ;) ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 17:21, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::Yeah, I only asked because I was unsure if it concerns all wikis (regardless of if it concerns me in that wiki). But, I think there is something seriously wrong with the servers ATM. Along with the forums being broken for the most parts, I get this when I try to open my watchlist at Archives: [http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/1485/dberror1.png <nowiki>http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/1485/dberror1.png</nowiki>] (watchlist at BP works well) '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 17:49, 2 November 2009
::::::You're not the only one. It's been like that all day. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 18:02, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::::these server issues are unrelated and just a (bad) coincidence. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 19:08, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

== Links to Wikipedia articles ==
A few Species articles have been made recently on Wikipedia. This is the final tally. Some are already linked, such as MissingNo. and Pikachu. Since the articles are locked, can an admin link these?
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MissingNo. MissingNo.] · [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charizard Charizard] · [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pikachu Pikachu] · [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jigglypuff Jigglypuff] · [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abra,_Kadabra,_and_Alakazam Abra, Kadabra, and Alakazam] · [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koffing_and_Weezing Koffing and Weezing] · [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Mime Mr. Mime] · [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jynx Jynx] · [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mewtwo Mewtwo] · [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mew_(Pokémon) Mew] · [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unown Unown] · [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rayquaza Rayquaza] · [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucario Lucario] '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 14:03, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

:We don't link Wikipedia. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 14:38, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
::I know you're very enthusiastic about having recreated so many Pokémon articles on Wikipedia, Blake - but why should the BP link to them when the articles here are superior? '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 14:45, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
:::The links were already on the articles for Missingno and Pikachu(and maybe a few others, I diddnt notice). I am not ''proposing'' you link them. I figured it was in the Manual of Style to link them. Also, Bulbapedia articles arent ''Superior''. Wikipedia has information Bulbapedia doesnt. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 01:01, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

== Adds ==

I have noticed for a while that there has been lots of adverts around the perimeter of articles etc on bulbapedia, i was just curious why theyre there?--'''[[User:MysteryHeff?|MỸŠŦЄЯỸ]][[Special:Contributions/MysteryHeff?|ЊӘҒҒ]]''' [[User Talk:MysteryHeff?|TALK]] 01:41, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
:The ads are there for people who dont have accounts. We have to get money for the servers from ''somewhere''. When you are logged in they should go away though. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 01:50, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
::Okay, thats understandable. I hadn't checked for the adds after i signed in, but now I've noticed they're gone. Thanks.--'''[[User:MysteryHeff?|MỸŠŦЄЯỸ]][[Special:Contributions/MysteryHeff?|ЊӘҒҒ]]''' [[User Talk:MysteryHeff?|TALK]] 01:56, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
:::When I was signed it I saw a six pack add.... '''''-'''''[[User:LugiaRocks|'''LugiaRocks''']] ([[User talk:LugiaRocks|''Talk'']] ★ [[Special:Contributions/LugiaRocks|''Edits'']]) 02:01, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
::::There's a bad ad reporting thread on the forums. If you see something inappropriate, click on the link in the sidebar and away you go. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:19, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::Whilst logged out, "get ripped in 4 weeks" was in Bulbasaur's article. Is that really appropriate in what is essentially a children's site? --[[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon777''''']] '' 11:34, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
::::::The {{BMGf|29680|Bad ad reporting thread}} is for that stuff as trom said before. it is even the example used of the list of link templates page :D--[[User:Dion24|D i]] [[Special:Contributions/Dion24|o n]] [[User talk:Dion24|2 4]] 11:44, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Do I need to make a seperate account to use this forum? I tried logging in with my Bulbapedia username and password and it didn't work. --[[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon777''''']] '' 13:34, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Yes, the wiki and forums are completely different things. It would be almost impossible to link them together like that. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 13:53, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

== Kana Names ==

Hiya, I was just looking at a few articles and noticed that the names of several characters as they appear in japanese have not be translated properly into romaji, or japlish. For example, the article for the character Sir Aaron ( http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Sir_Aaron ) Had the name translated into "Arlon", which is incorrect. アーロン translates directly into Aaron as the " - " is used as a prolonged sound mark and since the first character is A the proper translation is Aaron.

We need to completely revise every single article to that the kana (katakana or hiragana) is written first as a direct translation, and in brackets, the pronunciation/What it is with english spelling.
For Example;
*アーロン Aaron (Aaron)
*ジラルダン Jirarudan (Geraldan/ Gelardan)

Those are just two examples that relate to human characters alone, I dont not know the full extent of this error throughout the Pokémon but im sure it's quite a few.

P.S. the use of macrons isn't exactly part of japanese speech so I dont really approve of that o.o not that it really matters, I just think it is better to not use macrons for katakana and not just Hiragana. [[User:PsychicKris|PsychicKris]] 09:09, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

:So basically you are saying to take all of our '''official''' romanizations and change them into Engrish. Yeah, I don't think so.. Arlon is the official romaji for アーロン. It can be seen on various Japanese merchandise printed as "Arlon" in romaji. Know that ロ doesn't strictly mean "ro". It can also be used for "lo" since there isn't any Japanese characters espcially made for "l" sounds. Also, アー doesn't always mean "Aa". Extended "a" sounds are frequently used to pronounce as a long "r" sound such as "Ar".

:I suggest you do your research in how romanization works first before you tell us that a huge overhaul is needed. We are not changing {{p|Umbreon|Blacky}} to "Burakki" or {{p|Meowth|Nyarth}} to "Nyaasu". We don't work like that. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 10:15, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

== Pokemon Sugi images ==

I think alot of the images we have are too small. I dont know why. I just came across a webpage with very nice quality images. Maybe we could replace some of them? [http://light.cvgrenier.com/poke-creators/sugimori.htm here] is the webpage. Some I was considering to replace was for example {{p|Zubat}}. It's current image is wayy too small, and should be replaced with [http://www.light.cvgrenier.com/poke-creators/sugimori/041.png this]. Thoughts? '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 21:55, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

:They're fine. And we aren't going to steal any pictures from another site. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 22:28, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
::Did you even bother to visit the page? It says that they can be used freely, just don't hotlink to them (=use the Archives). If you ask me, replacing lowres pics from Archives is always okay. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 22:52, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
:::Since the site ''does'' say that anyone can take them as long as they aren't direct-linked (which we don't do anyways) I don't see why we couldn't use them. [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 22:54, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
::::I thinbk they're really good, we should use them! Except a couple of the Gen IV ones come up as "X"s on my computer. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 10:30, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::Now that I can reply.... I did go to the site, but I probably scrolled down right away. Most of the page wouldn't even load for me. But still. The size of the Zubat pic we have is fine. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 13:35, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
::::And the website mentioned is MY website. Yes, you can use the Sugimori images. Only 1 drawback. The new HG/SS artwork, even if it has transparancy, still has white marks arond the image, as if it have been a .JPG before...I don't know why, though. [[User:TokoyamiTheDark|TokoyamiTheDark]]''' 09:30, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

== Downtime ==

I've just noticed I can edit again! Is the maintenence finished already? [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 10:31, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
:Yeah. As notified in the Message from the Editor on the Main Page. And in the forums. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 10:36, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
::Wow, that was quick! [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 13:06, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

== Overworld HGSS Sprites? ==

Would it be a good idea for someone to get "partner pokémon" overworld sprites for each pokémon article? I just thought it would be a nice addition. From [[User:Samjohn95|Samjohn95]] 14:41, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

:Not a bad idea. Of course, most of the sysops have already just undertaken a huge task; they were [http://totaldramaisland.wikia.com/wiki/Chef_Hatchet slaving over a hot stove] [http://totaldramaisland.wikia.com/wiki/Brunch_of_Disgustingness cookin'] [http://totaldramaisland.wikia.com/wiki/Dolphin dolphin], getting [[User:Shiningpikablu252/Chef|no appreciation]]! We deserve a few days of rest...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 16:31, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
::You'd get plenty of appreciation from me if I new what any of that means! Thank you for your thoughts. From [[User:Samjohn95|Samjohn95]] 20:32, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
:::They've been ripped, we just haven't uploaded them yet because we haven't devised a system for doing so. We need to redesign the sprite box, among other things, as well, to show this. - ''unsigned comment from {{u|TTEchidna}} ([[User talk:TTEchidna|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TTEchidna|contribs]]) ''
::::Sounds like a big task. But if and when you do it, best of luck from me. Thanks! from [[User:Samjohn95|Samjohn95]] 21:13, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

== Pokemon Movie 2010 ==

[http://www.pokemon-movie.jp/ Official site]. Is there any reason an article for this movie doesnt exist yet? '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 04:02, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
:There was an article for it, called "Pikachu Project 2010", but it got deleted for some reason. Maybe it was because we didn't know enough about it and the article would have just been full of rumours and speculation. Although I think we know enough about it to recreate the article now! Perhaps an administrator should deal with that though. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 16:05, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
::There is an [[wp:Pokémon Movie 13|article on wikipedia about it]], but it is about to be deleted due to having almost no information on it. Basically we know the year, developer, location, and that it has something to do with {{p|Lugia}} and {{p|Ho-Oh}}. Its ok if the article doesn't get made, its just someone had to ask eventually. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 17:00, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
:::It was deleted because somebody made it when all we knew is that it had Lugia and Ho-Oh in it. TTE protected it for what should be obvious reasons. So. {{tt|As usual|meaning with ALL things that have come out in the past year}}, just wait for it to be OK'd by an admin, and don't go and ask for them to start it any time soon. It's not really that important right now, seeing as how [[Arceus and the Jewel of Life]] hasn't even premiered in English yet. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 21:41, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
:::: *cough* Australia *cough* —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:43, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::Eh. True. But still. We don't need the page yet. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 02:47, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
::::::I think there should still be an article about it. It could just contain the few details that we know, and be protected so people can't put in rumours and stuff. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 19:23, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

== Pokemon Bubbles ==

I've noticed that on many pages (especially small ones with infoboxes) there are parts where the pokemon descriptions overlap with other stuff. For example, [[Cissy]]. I want to put in a spacer in those pages for those pages but in the eyes of some people it creates too large of a gap. What do you presume we do? [[User:BrokenMotor|BrokenMotor]] 03:09, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
:What browser are you using? I see no overlaps with Cissy on Firefox or IE. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 05:57, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
::I've checked Opera and there seem to be no problem.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 07:15, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
I checked on Internet Explorer; I see what you mean. It says "Here is a list of Cissy's known Pokémon in the anime" and then there is a massive blank space before her list of Pokémon. It happens because the infobox gets in the way. This is just the way Bulbapedia is designed so I don't think anything can really be done about it. Unless her Pokémon boxes are made narrower, and I don't know how to do that! [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 11:27, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
:I see what you mean, it should look better now.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 11:43, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
::Ah, that's much better! Thanks for sorting it out! [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 13:08, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

==Whoa, whoa, whoa!==
Didn't know where I should put this, since it applied to a number of pages. I noticed that some Pokémon have been getting their Pokédex entries updated for HeartGold and SoulSilver just by duplicating the Gold and Silver version dex entries. Now, I understand that the Japanese entries may be the same, and that the English versions are likely to follow, but it's not unheard of for Nintendo to restructure the grammar or phrasing of the entry to better suit a modern game. Shouldn't there be something in the entries noting that these are unofficial translations, and liable to change? --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 12:44, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
:I think these should just be removed. Even if you do translate them, it will most likely be off. And they might change it for English anyways. I say just dummy the field. That way you wont have to edit all 493 pages. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 13:53, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
::I don't see what the problem is with translating and writing in what the Japanese says it is. First of all, everyone that is helping is fully aware (or at least should be) that they ''will'' be completely removed and replaced once the English versions come out. The point is to at least convey what it says so that people have an idea if they are interested enough to read it. I think as long as people are willing to help out, it's better to have it filled in than it is to just say 'Unknown' or something along those lines. As far as Generation I and II goes, they are fine without the Japanese with scroll-over English because they are "official" translations of the same exact text. Again, if it gets changed for the actual releases, then we would be replacing it anyways, so there should be absolutely no problem. ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 14:07, 18 November 2009 (UTC))
You can see English Pokédex entries in HGSS by trading an English Pokémon over to HGSS... -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 14:21, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
:Those are not the translated HGSS entries, but the English entries from DPPt. Thus, I have been removing them as I've seen them added to pages. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 14:24, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

== I didn't know where to put this so here I go ==

Can I make a page on the webcomic {{red link|Pokémon X (webcomic)|Pokémon X}}? I mean it's funny and all and has more pages then [[Super Effective|Super Effective (webcomic)]] and it's been around for longer. Link: http://pokemonx.comicgenesis.com. So um, is it worthy of its own article? [[User:Lunick v sonela|Lunick v sonela]] 20:54, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
:I'd say as long as it is to the point and doesn't turn into how it turned out when Recon Dye himself {{tt|made a page on Wikipedia about it|Before I successfully AFD'd it}}... '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 20:40, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
::Don't forget the é. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:31, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
:::Don't worry, I redirected it.--[[User:Smartkidhen|Smartkidhen]] 21:35, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

== Annuals? ==

Would it be worth creating an article about the Pokémon annuals? It could have a list of all of them and pictures of the front covers etc. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 17:43, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
:Never heard of them, but I know what they'll be like. Give it a shot. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:14, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
::OK, I don't actually have all the annuals but I can add in the details of the ones I have. I have all of them from 2003 onwards. What should the article be called? "Pokémon Annuals"? [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 22:34, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

== um... ==

a question about this place in General. Is Bulbapedia run by wikia?--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 05:22, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
:Hahahaha no. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 05:30, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
::NO!--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[User talk:RexRacer|Racer''']] 05:31, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
:what is it run by then? I mean it looks like a Wiki in all respects.--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 07:10, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
::Just because it ''is'' a wiki doesn't mean it's in any way affiliated with the Wikimedia Foundation or Wikia. You can get a wiki and install it without being run by them. Bulbapedia, Bulbanews, Bulbagarden Archives, and RPGwiki are all part of Bulbagarden. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:32, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
::um...can u tell me how to get a wiki that isn't run by wikia?--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 23:13, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
:::Wikia is a free wiki site. To get a wiki like this, you have to download the WikiMedia stuff on your computer or server that will hold all the files and everything for your wiki. Its free, but you have to provide the server and domain. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 17:34, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
::::MediaWiki is the program. Wikimedia is the organization that owns Wikipedia (as its not-for-profit portion) and Wikia (as its for-profit potion). If you wanna know more about the program, though, head on over to [[mw:MediaWiki|the website]]. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:04, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::Actually, Wikimedia is completely unaffiliated with Wikia. The Wikimedia foundation is a charitable organization which runs several wikis including Wikipedia and Wiktionary, and Wikia is a for-profit wiki farm. No connection whatsoever other than that they were both founded by Jimbo Wales. --[[User:Yair rand|Yair rand]] 07:17, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

== Pictures ==

Hi, I'm currently working on a new article, "Pokémon annual". Does anyone know where I can get pictures of the front covers of the annuals? Would it be OK to take them from photobucket or something similar? I don't have a scanner so I can't scan my own copies of the books. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 11:57, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
:Some covers can still be found on Amazon UK (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Pokemon-Annual-2010/dp/1906918139/). I think the images can be used as long as they don't have a site logo pasted on them. [[User:Mefredbob|Mefredbob]] 18:50, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
::They have pictures of all the annuals from 2006 onwards. I've uploaded them to the Archives. I also uploaded some pictures from other pages, but they have white gaps at the top and bottom. I uploaded a new version without the gaps but it stretched the image. Do you know why it did that? [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 12:55, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
:::Clear the cache (ctrl+shift+R). It takes a short while for the image to be completely viewable when you upload a newer version of the file. '''[[User:Kevzo8|Kev]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|zo8]]''' 13:21, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

== Hacked ==

It seems like the Pokemon Twitter account has been hacked. T.T --[[User:Pokelova|''ポケモン恋人'']][[User talk:Pokelova|''(離す)'']][[Special:Contributions/Pokelova|''(貢献)'']] 20:48, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
:It was fake to begin with. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 20:49, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
::But it seemed so real. T_T --[[User:Pokelova|''ポケモン恋人'']][[User talk:Pokelova|''(離す)'']][[Special:Contributions/Pokelova|''(貢献)'']] 21:24, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
:::This isn't the place to discuss this, go vent at the forums if you must. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:26, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

== Admin Nominations ==

Why are the Admin Nominations closed right now? When will they be back open?--[[User:Smartkidhen|Smartkidhen]] 17:50, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
:Not in the forseeable future. The admin nomination system was an idea that proved to be... problometic. True, several of our admins and even EB members received their powers thanks to it, but also a lot of pointless nominations were made by users who didn't really think things through. At the moment, we don't have a pressing ''need'' for more staff members. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 18:17, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

== Can Anyone Help? ==

I want to make something like a personal sandbox like other people but i don't know how. What do you do? Make a page called User:Manaphy1/Sandbox or something? Help! --[[User:Manaphy1|Manaphy1]] 19:16, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
:Yep, that's pretty much it. Just go to your userpage, add "/Sandbox" to the end of the URL in the URL box and hit enter. Then, create the page. Just remember the {{bp|userspace policy}}~ - [[User:Kogoro|'''<sc>Kogoro</sc>''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<sc>Talk to me</sc>''']] - 19:27, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
::Ok. Thanks for the help. --[[User:Manaphy1|Manaphy1]] 20:09, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

== Get Firefox (or other browser) buttons ==

I think we should put buttons like the following on Bulbapedia in order to spread Firefox or, at least, any other major browser except IE:

http://images.spreadfirefox.com/affiliates/Buttons/firefox3/foxkeh-fx3-180x60.png

It should also look more "Pokémonish". For example, we could put a Pikachu in Foxkeh's place and replace its background with a Pokémon-related one, thus making the button more fitting for the 'Pedia. The only problem for me is that I'm not capable of editing pics at the moment. If anyone would like to do it, then feel free to do so and present your works. ;-) But remember that the trademarks must be preserved to remain legal. More info about that [http://www.spreadfirefox.com/affiliates/create_buttons here]. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 17:42, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
:Why should Internet Explorer not be spread? Also, why should Bulbagarden get browser buttons? It doesn't really matter what browser is being used. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 17:47, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
::Because IE does not respect web standards properly even in its latest version and there are still many people on IE6, despite the progressive decreasing of its usage. It's not a case of exclusive notability to Bulbapedia or Bulbagarden as a whole; it is instead a matter of importance to the web in general. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 17:59, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
:::Sounds like spam. Spam is bad. Duh.--[[User:Smartkidhen|Smartkidhen]] 18:02, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
::::It is not spam in any way. And buttons or banners don't force anyone to change. On the contrary, it might get people's attention to try a different browser, thus making them not use IE partially or totally by their will and not by forced change. ;-) [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 18:03, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
:::::Think about how the site's set up as it is. The site pretty much relies on Firefox for the majority of its interface (like the roundycorners, aniPNGs, and so on). It's just better to use it for this particular site, though downloading FF or not is all up to the user. It's not spam. >_> ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 18:11, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
::::::I think this is a good idea - Bulbapedia really does look awful on IE (when you know what BP is ''supposed'' to look like, at least), and the site certainly does rely on FF. And I'd be willing to make a button for the cause. :3 [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 18:14, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Maybe it should not say "Download Firefox". It should say something like "Firefox recommended to view site properly" or something like that. - [[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 18:16, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

::::::::Besides, we don't want to make it look like Bulbapedia is outright playing favorites with any certain browser. Including a button that blatantly makes it appear that we're playing favorites with Firefox and make it look like Firefox is required to even view most of the site would give us a bad reputation amongst the Internet community. I, for one, don't plan to switch away from Internet Explorer anytime soon, especially to something as sucky and non-standards-compliant as Firefox. If we do include browser buttons like that, we should include browser buttons for multiple browsers, and yes, that would include one for Internet Explorer 8. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 18:25, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::It doesn't really matter what browser is used, so I don't think there should be browser buttons. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 18:27, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::I am not touching your implication that IE is standards compliant with a ten-foot pole, but you do realize what the "moz" in "-moz-border-radius" stands for, right? [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 18:30, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::It stands for mozilla, the company that manages Firefox right? But anyways, this is starting to become forums content, so I think it should be moved to the forums. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 18:35, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

:(reset) Yeah, this is indeed all better fit for the forums any way one looks at it. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 19:06, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

== Distorted images ==

I've noticed that a lot of Ken Sugimori's Pokémon artwork is being replaced with larger, higher quality versions. While this is a good idea, the "shrunk" versions of these images on the Pokémon species articles look horribly pixelated and distorted. Is this normal or is it something to do with my computer? [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 13:55, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
:Someone else asked the same question, about different pictures that were also being updated [[User talk:MAGNEDETH#Pictures|here]], so I hope this helps you. --[[User:Smartkidhen|Smartkidhen]] 23:49, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
::Wow, that's a long discussion! Thanks! [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 12:34, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

==Google Translate==

I'm going to make an account on the french bulbapedia and make some wanted articles by using google translate. Help would be much apprieciated. [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 15:29, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
:Um.... while help is good, I certainly wouldn't want articles written by google translate on my encyclopedia. I believe the French editors would likely feel the same. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:38, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
::And, uh, you certainly aren't thinking of translating our articles into French, you were gonna write them yourself, right?--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[User talk:RexRacer|Racer''']] 01:45, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
:::There is no French Bulbapedia. Poképedia is its own wiki, not part of bulbagarden. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 01:51, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
::::they are part of [[Encyclopaediae Pokémonis]]. they are partners of ours. also, no, never trust Google translate for anything. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 01:59, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
:::::I wouldn't trust a translator, it might mess up all the grammar. However, it would be a good incentive to learn French! [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 15:18, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

::::::Although there are times I rev up Babelfish, another online translation service, never do I use machine translations as a primary source for translation. If I ever rev up Babelfish for anything wiki-related, it's usually trying to figure out just how inter-wiki links should go on wikis where the interwiki bots do nothing (that is, the French, Polish, and Portuguese ends, as well as the Spanish end which doesn't even have a dedicated interwiki bot). --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 17:58, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
:::::::google translate has always been OK for me... but i've only made one article, so thats ok, i'll stop. [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 16:43, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
::::::::If you absolutely need a translation, I recommend to use Google Translate only from translating other languages into English. From there, you can fix any grammar errors and other things. What I don't recommend is using Google translate as a PRIMARY source of translations. - [[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 17:21, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

== Maybe it's just chrome... ==

But the Bulbapedia Logo is not the bulbapedia logo. It's a picture of a man dressed as a fairy.
:Could just be my computer, but I'll upload screenshots if no one else sees it.[[User:DCM]] 15:02, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
::I'm using Chrome, and that isn't happening. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 15:04, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
:::lol. I'd love to see the screenshots. - [[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes1992]] 15:14, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
::::I don't see it. But I'm not using Chrome. I'll check though... nope. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 01:18, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
:::::Try clearing your cache? [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 01:56, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
::::::Pics or it didn't happen. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:14, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Sometimes things glitch in browsers. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:11, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

When there's a countdown on the home page, it really should say what it is counting down to. I mean, I'm assuming it's the HGSS release, but now everyone will realise that. It should say "______ until US HeartGold and SoulSilver release!" [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 18:32, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
: _http://s380.photobucket.com/albums/oo245/Darth_Cookie_Monster/?action=view&current=WHATISTHIs.jpg check it out. The fairy guy in the upper corner. (just remove the line at the beginning of the link) [[User:DCM]] 23:16, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
:: This happened to me once on Firefox. Only it was a painting of a bottle of wine and a wine glass. The solution to the problem was uninstalling then reinstalling the browser. Don't know if it'll work in this case. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 23:19, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
:::Clearing the cache should fix it in the same manner (presumably you cleared the cache when you reinstalled, Kenji-girl). Most likely the browser is sending a request to the server for the correct image, and through missed packets or something of the sort, getting the wrong image back. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 00:09, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

== Zelda and Mario wiki links. ==

Why do we have Zeldawiki and Mariowiki links at the bottom of the main page??--[[User:Smartkidhen|Smartkidhen]] 20:55, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
:Because bulbapedia is now a part of something called TEIEN, which the other two wikis are also a part of. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 20:58, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
::instead of linking to Wikipedia for any cross-Nintendo things, we would like to rather link to another independent wiki, like ourselves. the TEIEN thing is nothing right now. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 21:11, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

:::Nevertheless, we could find a way to display them better...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 21:34, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

::::We've got a topic set up for that in the forums, Shining. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 21:44, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

== Sprites ==

Could you please resubmit all sprites in .gif format? My computer can't process .pngs correctly. [[User:Magikarp123193|magikarp123193]] 17:19, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
:I don't think people would go to the trouble of resubmitting 1000+ sprites in GIF format just for one person. If it was a mass problem, then...maybe. :v [[User:Tyro|Tyro]] 17:28, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
::So? Mine doesn't either as I'm using Chrome and IE. Does it really matter? It'll probably be in the newest versions of IE and Chrome if it gets one. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 22:18, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
:::Chrome and IE have nothing to do with it, unless you're using IE 5 or something older. It also depends on your computer. You could have the newest IE, and it still wouldn't work right if your computer can't process anything right anyways. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 22:45, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
::::I have Internet Explorer 7 and the PNGs don't work for me. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 19:44, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
:::::My above message was a mistake on my part. I though they meant animated PNGs. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 19:46, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
::::::Then it's your computer, Taromon. It has nothing to do with IE, just the processors in your computer that read the data and show images. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 21:17, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Hang on, is this discussion about animated PNGs, or PNGs just being viewable? I can view PNGs fine, but the animated ones don't move on my computer. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 18:59, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Animated pngs don't work in IE, you just get the first frame of the image as a static picture. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 20:31, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::Have the GIFs themselves been removed completely? If not, I'd suggest maybe there's a way so that if the user is using an incompatible browser, then the GIF shows up. Not everyone uses Firefox, you know... '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 20:43, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::None of the GIFs have been deleted to my knowledge. We're using the new animated PNGs for the HGSS sprites only, as far as I can tell. At least, so far. And it's not worth it to redo every anPNG sprite into GIFs just so we IE users can see it, because then we'd have to replace the anPNGs on the actual pages. There aren't any ways to get the anPNGs and GIFs to only show to whatever browser somebody is using. And on top of that, we don't have the ability to detect which browser is being used anyways, which would make the anPNG/GIF switching system moot, since it wouldn't work. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 22:31, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::::It is, actually, possible to detect a user's browser, though I don't think it's possible to replace page content accordingly - and if there was it would probably put a ''lot'' of strain on the server.
:::::::::::Conclusion: use Firefox! It is free, standards-compliant, and awesome! [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 22:46, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
We have that? I know there are ways you could, but I didn't think that we, as Bulbapedia, had the ability to do that. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 22:54, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
:If the GIF thing is possible without putting a strain on the server, it would be a good idea.
:I don't think use firefox is a good conclusion. Chrome is just as good (at least before the new tab page started messing up). IE is also a good option, even though it isn't standards compliant.
:Better conclusion: It doesn't matter what browser you use as long as it works for you. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 23:22, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
::It's a good idea, just that we'd have to find people who'd be willing to go through every HGSS sprite and make a GIF version of it. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 23:29, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
:::As long as you're not using IE5 or something pngs will render correctly. Whether they will animate or not is dependent on your browser, but really, you're not missing too much. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:35, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

== border-radius [FYI] ==

Well, since it was discussed here before (archive 8)… I've tested border-radius CSS property in the recent pre-alpha of Opera 10.50 and it appears to be working. So, when adding new styles please consider adding this unprefixed version too. So, if you want 1em border radius you need to write:

-moz-border-radius: 1em; /* Mozilla Fx prefixed as currently used here. May be unneeded in the far future but probably not now. */

border-radius: 1em; /* Unprefixed version as defined by CSS standard. */

It would be quite some time until it hits release (windows version will be released earlier though) but it'll save you from future hassle of adding this. Somewhere in the future other browsers will implement this as an unprefixed property too. It breaks nothing. Though it is recommended that you write prefixed version ''before'' an unprefixed one. — [[User:Tenno Seremel|Tenno Seremel]] 02:13, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

:Hmm, what I think I may do is build the border-radius style (prefixed and unprefixed) into a div class, so it can be handled directly from the CSS page; as it is, it's already going to be a big job to take all the rounded codes and templates and update them separately. Best to plan ahead for this. --[[user:Jioruji_Derako| '''J'''ïörüjï '''Ð'''ērākō.'''>''']][[user talk:Jioruji Derako|''.cнаt'''''^''']] 13:03, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

== Johto Trainers renamed! ==

It's just been announced on Serebii.net, Gold is called Ethan and Kotone is called Lyra. [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 12:42, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
:Nothing will be changed until we have the games in-hand. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 13:23, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

I added that to the HG/SS page. --[[User:Vampirebidoof|Vampirebidoof]] 20:37, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
:No. No, no no no. Please do not add anything about the HGSS names Serebii (or Pokemon.com's Lyra) reported. Just don't. Wait until the games are released. ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 20:43, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

The Admins for Team Rocket got new names too. --[[User:Sparen|~Sparen of Iría~]] 23:28, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
:So the new policy around here is "don't trust Serebii"? If he ever posts wrong information, he states that it's wrong and posts it to warn others not to believe it. Besides, he did reveal the Generation IV Pokémon names way beforehand. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 01:32, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
::We've always been cautious, we're just being more cautious. And {{tt|we're|everybody who's had to deal with it...}} also extremely annoyed at everybody who's been ignoring conversations about everything, yet still adding the info. And a few users have even tried getting around protections and warnings on pages. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 03:03, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
:::The policy's not "don't trust Serebii" as much as it is "let us verify it ourselves". I mean, hey, do you have access to Nintendo's internal files, or someone with a prerelease you-know-what of HGSS? Why trust Serebii? He could say that Gold's name is Josh and we'd believe him. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:22, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

== Screenshots with characters ==

Do screenshots with the main characters such as Gold or Lucas really need to be categorized with their name? It makes their category really cluttered. I just don't get it. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 21:58, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
:I assuming you're speaking regarding categorization at the Bulbagarden Archives. It's for organisational purposes; if a user is looking for a screenshot of Gold or Lucas, then he can search through the category. If you have issues with the system, its probably best to ask {{u|Maverick Nate}} directly. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 04:30, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

== Temporary Mewtwo Theme? ==
Is there any way we could change the Main Page for Mewtwo for just Today, the 6th? It is Mewtwo's Birthday...--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 05:15, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
:Sure, why not. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:20, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
::Oh, I was wondering why everything was so pink. At first I started thing Mew. Anyways, happy birthday Mewtwo! [[User:Fudgenuggets|Fudgenuggets]] 09:00, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
:::That's a great idea! Happy birthday Mewtwo! [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 12:55, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
::::Can you change back now? Coz i liked the old one. Maybe on the day HGSS are released we could have a "Shiny" theme, because of the "Birthday" of the "Shiny's"! [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 12:52, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::Happy B'Day Mewtwo. --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''niz''']]♪♫ 13:48, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::No shiny day please >< --'''[[user:Emp|Emp]], out''' 14:43, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::How would we do a shiny theme? Better if we do a... you know, HGSS theme because that's when it's coming out? If we were to have a shiny day because GS introduced the concept... then... does that mean we'll have a Hold Item day and a Pokérus Day? D8 ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 17:38, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Um, Mewtwo's birthday is over now, please can we revert to something a little less bright? ;) [[User:Kidburla|Kidburla]] 23:01, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
:Yeah, back to the HGSS theme. Until the end of the month. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:51, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

== Latest Message from the Editor ==
"(really, creating the Sinnoh Pokédex listing was no big deal)" This should be removed. You are telling people not to create articles for bragging rights and then immediately bragging about an important article you created. The editor-in-chief's behavior should be exemplary. [[User:Ultimara6|Ultimara6]] 07:39, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
:I think he was joking... :) [[User:Kidburla|Kidburla]] 23:03, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
::I was joking. See, the thing is, I made the Sdex listing when I was a noob. It looked like crap, was barely done at all, but I stuck with the style of the rest of the 'dex listings were at the time. Unfortunately what's happening today is that many of our articles, especially those made to circumvent the protection put on the title we planned to use, are '''absolute garbage'''. Seen the rant I put in the forums? Seen the deleted revision of the (wrongly-titled) "Jun (Anime)" page? Seen the first revision of [[Oblivia]], back when it was at "Region of oblivia"?
::See, I'm pointing it out. Making articles for bragging rights, to say "yay I'm the first revision" is dumb. When I made the Sinnoh Dex, I made it to compile the information we knew. I look back at it and say, "hey, that was pretty good for what we knew then", four years ago. The problem is, lately, people just make the pages so that there's something there, even if we know nothing. Heck, if that article were made by a new user today, it'd likely be at "shino dex numbers" and say "lucario is in the shinoh dex" and have a "THIS IS UNFINISHED" notice at the top.
::My behavior should indeed be exemplary. Which is why I point everyone to my first few contribs. Were they awesome? Of course they weren't. They suck compared to the templates and pages I make today. But they prove that all you need to do is learn the style before you do something dumb, and draw from other pages made before. Plus, hey, Zhen and Pie thought my first template ''sucked''. It was too huge. Now, you're new. Go out and make some awesome edits in areas we need it. If you have a Gen III game, play through it, Hoenn's where we're really lacking in good information. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:50, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Regardless, even if you were joking, in the context of the news post it sounds like you are bragging. The rest of the content of the news post, the fact that I am new, and the fact that people have made bad edits in the past are irrelevant.[[User:Ultimara6|Ultimara6]] 04:33, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
::::Haha. That actually has everything to do with it. It wouldn't sound out of context if you knew anything about TTE's personality. There's one of two things that most newer users normally don't understand: they either think that they can add their opinion to pages as fact and then use talk pages as a forum, ''or'' they think that this has to be formal all the time, every second, for every single little thing.
::::It doesn't have to be. If it was, then nothing would get done around here. There would only be the administrators and a few users editing. Yeah, most new users just join to have an account to say that they're part of the Pedia and they never edit, but there are a bunch of them that do actually help. We've had to be more strict than normal the past few months or so, maybe even half year, because of the hype of HGSS and the other games (not to mention [[M12]]). Even then, we're still not all that strict, as long as people follow the rules.
::::And really, you being new does have something to do with this. Instead of trying to point out a fault that doesn't exist, try editing something other than a talk page. We'll sometimes have users join just to complain about things on the talk page and never actually contribute, and I really hope that you won't be one of them. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 05:10, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::I'm sure your knowledge of who's who on the Bulbapedia administration team is unsurpassed, but you ignore the fact that most of the people who view this site are not admins, they are not even editors and probably don't even have an account, but people looking for information about Pokemon. For this fact, and despite the possible perception of this encyclopedia's subject matter, everything on the site should strive to be as NPOV as possible. When I read the news article I was perfectly fine with it, besides one parenthetical. I empathize with TTE's plight, and agree that the announcement was probably a necessary one, but it sticks in my craw that a "joke", as he calls it, would be jutting out of the news post like a sore thumb. I know nothing about TTE as a person, and I could really care less. I am simply voicing the opinion of what I feel would be the average Bulbapedia reader's. I thought that my suggestion might help to make the front page of the site, the thing that everyone who visits it sees, look a little more officious, and I'm surprised that it has been met as it has. [[User:Ultimara6|Ultimara6]] 05:32, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::I actually don't know much about many of the admins, and most of the users. As for who views and uses the site, I know most aren't admins or users. There's also the fact that most people who come here looking for information, don't really read much on the front page, other than maybe the news and the side menu that has the links. The reason that we're so relaxed here about some things, is that everybody is going to get offended by something. Heck, I know some people who hate Pokémon because of the rumors of witchcraft and Satanism that surfaced over 10 years ago, and they never bothered getting their facts straight. And there are some that think battling "animals" or "pets" is cruel, when it's just a video game, yet they go play Call of Duty and Halo and don't worry about actually ''killing'' something, in a sense. It's all a matter of opinion, and we try to keep things here nonPOV as you said. But how is one person's comment, much less the EoC on his own "Message from the Editor" section, really going to matter? Of course it's a POV, because it's in his words, from his mind. And it's a POV, because you think that it sounds... let's say, "unofficial" in a way. I really don't have a problem with it, because it's his section he can do whatever he wants. I don't think really anybody else would have a problem with it either. And if you want to get technical, this whole site is POV, because it's compromised of information from Pokémon fans. If it was from Yu-Ghi-Oh fans, the site would probably be a hate site, not an encyclopedia. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 06:09, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Seriously, Yu-Ghi-Oh fan/= Pokémon hater. Why would they have a reason to hate Pokémon? I know many fans of Yu-Ghi-Oh who like Pokémon. Grawp would make much more sense. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 20:59, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Regarding your comment on Gen III Echidna, I've got Ruby and Emerald, are there any articles I could help improve? [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 21:11, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
::::And I have Ruby and LeafGreen. Tell us what the wiki needs, TTE, and we can probably get right on it. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 12:38, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::I have Ruby, Emerald, and FireRed. I'll try helping by restarting Ruby and going through every route thoroughly when I get a chance. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 22:27, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::The only game I have that I'll be restarting any time soon is Pearl, but I think we have nearly all of that. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 04:09, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

== Whoa... ==

What's with the new design? I like it, but why was it changed? --[[User:Gen1king|''GEN'']]1[[User talk:Gen1king|KING]] 16:20, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
:Wait, my bad, didn't see the mewtwo thing :P Anyways, happy birthday Mewtwo! {{unsigned|Gen1king}}

==Ken Sugimori Artwork==

What's happening to Ken Sugimori's official artwork? New versions are being uploaded, which are incorrectly coloured and are so huge that they go all glitchy when viewed full-size. The images of Venusaur, Charizard, Blastoise and Rayquaza are clear examples. Would it be OK if I reverted them back to previous versions? Just thought I'd better check first, I don't want to start a "revert war". [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 13:54, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
:I reverted {{p|Lucario}}'s and got re-reverted saying "then find me a CMYK to RGB converter"... I think this is very unnecessary and should be changed back. Why make bigger off-color versions? '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 16:06, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
::I don't think that we need such huge images... all we use them for is in the infobox, and we don't really need 493+ of these hi-res images eating up space. And yeah, they have really messed up colors. :/ The older images from like 2005 or so are really small, though, so if someone could get the Sugimori art around like... idk 300-400 pixels high or so for the Pokémon? Not 1000+. D: ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 17:45, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Ummm... guys... this is a matter to talk to {{u|Immewnity}}... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 18:02, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

== An idea for the location articles ==

This is just an idea I had... on the articles about locations, such as routes, caves etc, how about a list of HMs required to fully explore the area? [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 13:43, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
:cool idea. [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 16:02, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
::I've just done it to all of Kanto's routes, I'll start on Johto soon! [[User:Taromon777|'''''Taromon''''']] 19:45, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

== Pokemon Rumble Area Names ==

WON'T ANYONE USE US NAMES FOR THIS GAME'S AREAS IN POKEDEX ENTRIES?! THIS GAME WAS RELEASED IN THE US, YOU KNOW! [[User:Magikarp123193|magikarp123193]] 20:15, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Lyra (game)

2010-02-11T14:10:12Z

Magikarp123193: /* The name's Lyra */

<big><big><big>'''ATTENTION: THIS PAGE IS NOT FOR ARGUMENTS. GO TO THE FORUMS FOR THAT.'''</big></big></big>

I rendered the scan of Soul (I guess that's what we're all calling her now) if you want to use it...

[[File:HGSS_Soul.png]]
:The top of her head's cut off. Can you fix that? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:35, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
::Um....shouldn't we wait until a REAL source gives her name? Or has one been given? --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 03:48, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
:::There was a poll, and it is mentioned that there is no official name yet, and this is a fanname. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 03:54, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

I can't do anything about the hat because it was like that in the scan. It went off the page. (Sorry, I'm new to this wiki stuff, so I don't know how to do a lot...)
:How about [http://bayimg.com/image/aapfgaabl.jpg this one], or should we just wait for the official individual art from [[Ken Sugimori]] to be released.--[[User talk:AOS|AOS]] 20:34, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
::If you click through to the archives from the image's page, you'll notice that it's already been updated to the official art, taken from the HG/SS official site. There's just something up with the way images are being shown on the 'pedia. '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 21:35, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

== Name ==

According to the screen revealed in CoroCoro and Famitsu, Soul seems to be the boy's name... --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 07:07, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
:Sigh. You know as well as I do that "Leaf" is among the optional names for Red in LeafGreen, too, don't you? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:28, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
::Well. I know that it doesn't indicate anything. But I noted it here to show that the assumption that her name will be "Soul" is nothing more than gunjumping. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 07:30, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Either way, we needed a name for her page and we couldn't really name her "That girl who replaced Kris causing all the fans to whine (game)". '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:34, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

I really think for the time being we should call her the "Un-named female trainer", or something like that. Besides, we can't assume her name based on what [[Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen versions|one generation]] did.[[User:Zabbethx|Zabbethx]] 15:16, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
:The name is pretty much a place-holder (no user is going to be willing to search something like "Un-named female trainer" just to find the this article) at this point, which is why it is clearly tagged in the article to avoid confusion. And if the precedent from gen III holds, the article will have already had its proper name, and if not, it can very easily be corrected. [[User:Trainer-c|Trainer-c]] 15:25, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
::Check [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Talk:Leaf_(game) this] if you don't mind since I gave my opinion as well as a few facts (at least one XD). [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 15:51, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
:::I knew it! her name was going to be Soul just like I predicted in Kris's Talk Page. [[User:AlienX2008|AlienX2008]] 17:52, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Actually we don't know for a fact yet AlienX2008. While there is a 99% chance of her name being Soul (which I am starting to think is her name as opposed to Heart which I previously thought), there is no official word yet. Right now Soul is just her fan-name.[[User:Zabbethx|Zabbethx]] 18:49, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
:Is it Heart? I heard that according to those scans that the Pokemon website has,it has the Gold character with the default name "Soul"? [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 22:56, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Personally, i hope its Heart. But i'd be ok with Soul. {{unsigned|Golden}}

I personally think this article should be called "Female character (Heart Gold/Soul Silver)" since we don't know her name yet.It's best we avoid misinformation until more is revealed. - seriousexpression
:There would be no point in having an article then. Although I think it is jumping the gun as well, the article does say that it is a fan-made name. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 00:35, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
::This article may be jumping the gun slightly, maybe, but truly, I'd rather have done it now just in case some dork comes along and wonders where she is. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:28, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
:::We can always change it later.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 00:48, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

I've seen her called Mariko on the Japanese site Pixiv. I haven't heard it anywhere else; is this another fan nickname, or is it official? --[[User:Lime|Lime]] 21:42, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
:Might be one of the default names. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:47, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Isn't the female referred to as like Haato and the male referred to as Souru? [[User:Erik Destler|~*~ Erik Destler ~*~]] 22:48, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

== New screenshot ==

Can someone translate what she is saying in the new screenshot, please? This may give us some kind of information about her... [[User:Mr. Charlie|'''Mr. Charlie''']]([[User_Talk:Mr. Charlie|''TalkToMe'']]) 20:51, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v727/joodude/1245089067561.jpg

This one? -[[User:MasterKenobi|MasterKenobi]] 20:58, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
::Yes. I've tried to translate it, but realized soon enough that translating anything that does not use our alphabet is not for me. I got "Steer!". Please. [[User:Mr. Charlie|'''Mr. Charlie''']]([[User_Talk:Mr. Charlie|''TalkToMe'']]) 21:01, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
:::According to the gallery on {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}} it reads ''"Yeah! How about you show your mom, too?"'' '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 21:09, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

== About Soul...==

I know this is simply speculation,but Soul looks a lot like that [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/1/1a/Playergirl.png girl] that replaces Red if you insert a Crystal cart. with Kris into the game,right? Okay,maybe not a lot but still..Leaf is obviously based off that girl playable character that was left out of the first generation,right? Maybe Soul is based off this girl? If so,could we put it in the article? [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 20:54, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
:A. This comparison is an opinion, and B. No, because it's an opinion it cannot go into the article. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 20:57, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
::Oh,okay,just making sure. [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 20:58, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
:::Sketch: If that's so, then why is the following paragraph in the article:
:::"Due to her similar hair, it is believed by some fans that she is to Kris what Leaf is to Blue: a vastly redesigned version of her. As Kris's Special counterpart Crystal likewise had brown hair initially (though it was changed to blue to match her counterparts of Kris and Marina), and currently has brown hair again." -[[User:Spideym|Spideym]] 21:55, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
::::Ask the Echidna. He put it in. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 21:57, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::If anything, Stadium Boy and Stadium Girl are just that. Stadium people. Because this was before they identified your game as your game through the Trainer's appearance. Plus, since RGBY are playable with Stadium 2, it'd look really odd to see Red face... himself. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:49, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

==SERIOUS BUSINESS==
I just read one of the scans's captions on the [[Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver Versions]]page. It said:

'''Inside Professor Elm's laboratory. "Oh, Soul! I've been waiting for you to come!"''

Does this mean the name is now set in stone? I don't want to edit it straight away incase this isn't the case. - ''[[User:Lucadan|Lucadan]] ([[User talk:Lucadan|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Lucadan|contribs]])'' 15:42, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

:New stuff goes at the bottom. Also, look at that picture. Elm is talking to GOLD, not [[Soul|this new girl <s>that no one cares about</s>]]. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 20:21, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
::Most likely, "Soul" is a default name for Gold, like how "Diamond" and "Pearl" are default names for Lucas. '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 20:30, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
:::{{tt|Exactly.|Which probably means that was a screenshot from SoulSilver.}} --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 20:46, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

So, why not change the article to Heart? [[User:Erik Destler|~*~ Erik Destler ~*~]] 22:49, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
:That will likely be a default name for '''both''' in ''HeartGold'', just like Soul will be in ''SS'', just as “Red” was a default for both the [[Red (game)|boy]] '''and''' the [[Leaf (game)|girl]] in ''FireRed'' and “Green” for both in ''LeafGreen''. --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 13:11, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
== Final proof ==

Eusine in HGSS. Means Crystal stuff is there. Means Soul is Kris. Yes or yes? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:27, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
: Hmm... Let's do it. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 19:35, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
::I think we should wait for CoroCoro to come out before making any decisions just yet.--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[User talk:RexRacer|Racer''']] 19:44, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Three days? Good for me. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:44, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
::::Waiting for concrete proof would be ideal. If it explicitly mentions that it's Kris, then go for it. Otherwise... well isn't that a lot of speculation that we can enjoy ;) '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 19:51, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::What does Eusine have to do with anything? Just because he's from Crystal doesn't mean that everything else is. They could just be simply putting some events from Crystal into this game. Chris is right. Wait for concrete proof. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 20:10, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::The main argument in the past was that this girl must be a new character because HeartGold and SoulSilver are not remakes of Crystal, so anything that was in Crystal can't be in HG/SS. Now that that argument has been put to rest, there's really no reason left to believe she isn't Kris. At the very least, a merge would solve the problem that this page is located at an unofficial title.[[User:Jeff|-Jeff]][[User talk:Jeff|(talk)]] 20:56, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::...No reason? How about the fact that Soul looks NOTHING like Kris, unlike the other redesigned characters? Or the fact that that her clothes DON'T look like they're based on Kris' ones, unlike the other player characters' outfits? Or the fact that she would be the only player character whose hair color was changed to a totally different one in a remake (Red had brown hair in Pokémon Stadium 2, so no, FR/LG didn't change his hair from black to brown), and even compared to the few characters who had a hair color change (Lance and Lorelei), the change between from Kris' and Soul's hair color is too drastic (Lance and Lorelei's new hair colors [reddish pink and red respectively] could be obtained by changing the tonality of the original ones [reddish orange and purple], but you can't get Soul's hair color [brown] by changing the tonality of Kris' [blue])? - [[User:Pokéman|Pokéman]] 21:34, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Kris's hair color was originally dark brown before they changed it to fit with the "Crystal" theme. '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 21:39, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::::When did game Kris have brown hair? - [[User:Pokéman|Pokéman]] 21:41, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::The manga. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 22:19, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::Which should be irrelevant because Special Crystal is based on game Kris, and not the other way around. - [[User:Pokéman|Pokéman]] 22:25, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::However, she did still have Brown hair...--[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 22:32, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::::Yeah, there was something about a prototype female character similar to Kris that had brown hair, but I haven't found a picture so far x.x '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 22:35, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::::PsychicRider: And anime Bill had green hair. So?
:::::::::::::Sol: You mean the "prototypical" artwork that was revealed years before Gold and Silver came out?:
:::::::::::::http://web.archive.org/web/20041021125709/http://pokefor.greenchu.de/meowth346/gbc/alpha/alpha_girltrainer.png
::::::::::::: - [[User:Pokéman|Pokéman]] 22:43, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
Bill has nothing to do with this...He may or may not be getting new artwork...--[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 23:08, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
:Neither have Pokémon Special or Special Crystal. The manga has even less influence in the games than the anime. - [[User:Pokéman|Pokéman]] 23:13, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
::You can't even keep your point. Special Crys did get a change...She had brown that switched to blue...Oh, kinda like this, but reversed...hm...--[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 23:19, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
:::"You can't even keep your point." < What? - [[User:Pokéman|Pokéman]] 23:27, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
::::Guys, how much like Red did Red look? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:20, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::A lot. Both original and FRLG Red have brown spiky hair, red-and-white jacket and cap, black shirt, blue pants... - [[User:Pokéman|Pokéman]] 23:27, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::Just wanted to say, I support the merge, for what that's worth. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 00:33, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
:The whole thing with PokéSpe Crystal's Blue/Brown hair aside, I'm going to side with Chris and Kenji-girl and suggest waiting until we at least get more concrete evidence pertaining specifically to this character -- such as [[Kris_(game)#Optional_names_for_Kris|sharing default names]], a mention on [http://www.gamefreak.co.jp/blog/dir/ Masuda's blog] (or preferably [http://www.gamefreak.co.jp/blog/art/ Sugimori's] with some early concept art, just to see that blog updated more than once a year), etc. -- before accepting that Kris and Soul are the same character.
::Not even Leaf's design is changed as drastically from the prototype RGB girl -- Leaf and RBG girl both have long brown hair, a mini-skirt, and no sleeves -- as Soul is from Kris. [[User:Quagbert|Quagbert]] 02:41, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
we already jumped the gun by making this page, so we might as well keep it until everything is 100% confirmed. I don't see how Crystal stuff being in these remakes automatically makes Soul Kris. What is so bad about waiting. And just throwing this in, but how about in the future we actually wait instead of having to go through this again. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 02:13, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Waiting would mean someone comes along and makes an article at "NOO GURL (Hartgald/soulver)" that's an absolute mess. And considering the fandom's whining about "SHE'S NOT KRIS" and all that bullcrap... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 17:29, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
She's not Kris. EoT. I don't see how Eusine has anything to do with that. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 17:34, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
:What evidence is there that she's not Kris, aside from their appearances? We've come up with evidence to indicate she is, the appearance of Crystal elements and her appearing with Eusine in a picture being a few. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 00:06, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
::It's not any evidence. It's just a failed comparative logic. Come on, we didn't even believe CONFIRMED dub title when it revealed [[Barry (anime)|Barry]]'s name. We didn't move his page until the airing of the episode. So, why are we supposed to believe some failed logic? Because the main 'Pedia admin is supporter of the "Soul is Kris" theory? It is NOT an evidence. As long as it's not blatantly stated that she is design-raped Kris after a nuclear explosion, we should not believe any failed "evidences" like that. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 08:41, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
:::I just want to say that I oppose the merge. They are obviously different people, and like said above, if you do merge them people will be saying "WTH! SOUL ISNT KRIS" and making fail pages named "new gil(hgss)" --[[User:Blake|Blake]] 13:46, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
:''An'' evidence? Sheez. Anyway, Maxim, I'm still not seeing any logic coming from you, aside from "they look different." Well, you also had "Not a Crystal remake," but that's obviously no longer the case. We've got "They don't look ''that'' different," "They fill the same role in-game," "Kris appears in a shot with Eusine," "Other characters have undergone drastic visual changes," etc.
:Please, if you have an argument, present it. It doesn't seem like you're using any logic, and I'd love for that to change. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 17:22, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
::We have no proof that Soul is Kris, or even that Kris wont even be a character. She might pop up somewhere else, like Blue being a Gym Leader. --[[User:Blake|Blake]] 19:23, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
:::We also have no proof that Soul is '''''NOT''''' Kris. Blue popped up as Gym Leader 3 years after he began his journey. This is back at the beginning of Gold/Kris's journey. --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 19:27, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
::::Both sides of the argument piss off the other side, so maybe we should leave this as is for now. We have no evidence to support either side, and all that is happening now are insults on how the other side isn't right. So just drop the subject for now, and we will pick it up once something in the Pokémon world actually happens. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 19:34, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
Does it really matter if she is Kris or not. At least they are remaking G/S. That's what matters. I would love to have Kris back. Soul and Kris have similarities. They probably did that on purpose. To make her look similar to Kris. So until she is confirmed to be Kris, if she is her, i say no merger yet.--[[User:Pokéboy93|Pokéboy93]] 04:58, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::I say no to any merger at this point. There is strong evidence in favour of her being Kris, however it is nowhere near confirmed. I say we leave it as it is for the moment, otherwise, the situation could arise where we merge the pages, and then have the messy job of unmerging them, and removing all the Soul stuff from Kris's page. Surely you guys can wait til September 12th to merge the page, just to make sure your doing it when it is confirmed, and not another instance where Bulbapedia jumps the gun.
But I have a question, what will be the proof for either side, when the game comes out, if Kris isn't her name, when she is the NPC, will that confirm she's not Kris, equally if Kris is in her optional names, will that confirm she is Kris? [[User:Max King|Max King]] 14:17, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::Personally, I believe it's what her NPC "helper" name is, what will determine who she is. Be it Kris, Soul or something totally different. '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 18:34, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::@ Max King: No, it wouldn't prove a damned thing. If you'll recall, the player character from Diamond and Pearl have Ash/Satoshi or Gary/Shigeru amongst their default names, but that most certainly does not make them Red or Green. Player-Character Girl should use this name for now, since the mob of fanon has spoken. It'll be changed later whether they like it or not. [[User:Fishman|Fishman]] 13:44, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::If I may add my opinion into this, I don't believe for a second they are the same and oppose the merge. In FireRed/LeafGreen, Red and Leaf were recognisable as who they were meant to be (albeit Leaf never appeared in the original, but there WAS beta artwork of her); Red still had a red jacket, red hat, blue pants; and Leaf still had the boots and same hairstyle. On the other hand, Soul resembles Kris in no way, shape, or form beyond the hair, and even then...I don't see the hair similarities beyond pigtails. Alongside that, if Soul WAS Kris, why would she look so utterly different if Gold and Silver are easily recognizable? It just doesn't make sense. [[User:Reign|Reign]] 09:19, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
:Given her weird hair similar to the original Kris’s, and her appearance alongside Eusine in that [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/hgss/pokemon/images/img_pokemon_03_04.jpg Burned Tower/Legendary Beasts artwork], I am inclined to agree with TTE that she seems to be mainly a heavy redesign Kris/Crystal, and she will definitely be named the latter when I play her in ''SoulSilver''( now that I feel pretty sure ''HG''/''SS'' will be thirdversionless like ''FR/LG''). But there is something to be said for putting her at her NPC name, unless she is nameable as an NPC, in which case I say merge to Kris for sure. The REAL question we should be asking is what we do with '''''Gold''''' if '''''his''''' NPC name is nothing like “Gold”. --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 13:11, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
::Eusine's design hardly changed from his Crystal art, at all. The only thing that stands out as "major" is the designs on his suit. Everything else is basically the same (unless you consider adding lines to his hair a major addition, or that his one bang flipped sides). [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 13:41, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Sorry, I think I said that badly. Wasn’t saying Eusine looks weird. Should be more clear now. --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 14:41, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
::::To answer your question, if Gold gets a new NPC name, then the obvious solution is to create a new article for him with regards to HG/SS, and leave [[Gold (game)]] solely for any and all details with regards to G/S/C.
::::But, this has nothing to do with improvement to {{tt|Soul's|Or whoever the heck she is!}} article, so back to point, or continue the discussion [[Talk:Gold (game)|somewhere else]]? '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 15:51, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::Yeah, I didn’t mean to start a tangent on it here, just honestly think it’s a more pertinent question than this one. But not one that needs addressing just yet... kinda like this. --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 16:19, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
===Hey look, a section break!===
Strange as it may sound, I agree with Mav. Neither side is really gaining any ground here, so we should all just call her what we want to call her, be it "Soul," "Kris," "Maria," etc, and stop yelling at people who don't agree. And it's not like Bulbapedia defines reality. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 08:39, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
:But both sides should agree that the name "Soul" for the girl is practically denied. All screens confirm "Heart" as a version name for the girl and the page should be moved. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 08:41, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
While I think she's clearly just supposed to be Crys's equivalent, and Crys in the Special manga will thus have her outfit when she reappears, if the article really MUST use a name to refer to this "new" girl, why the hell is Soul used? The ONLY names that have been seen for her are Heart and Miki, while the MALE character has only been seen with the names Soul and Hiroshi. (Miki and Hiroshi only being used in a wireless battle for the second versions of them.) If there's a name used for her, it should be Heart for now. [[User:Capsule Computer|Capsule Computer]] 00:42, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
::Soul is mainly used because the FRLG girl was Leaf. Therefore, it's only logical that she'd be named Soul, following Leaf's pattern of being named after the first word in the second game. I say we keep it as Soul until the game comes out, where if it turns out she's Heart we change it then. [[User:Reign|Reign]] 01:37, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
::::How can this be logical when screens say otherwise? :/ [[User:Erik Destler|~*~ Erik Destler ~*~]] 22:52, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
:::Except to me, it's only logical that she's just the new version of Crys, regardless of what you wanna call her, or what she's called when she's an NPC. (I'm betting the boy won't be named "Gold" when he's an NPC, but he doesn't have a separate page from the G/S/C versions' boy. Odds are very likely that the boy and girl will get 'real' names just like gen 3 and 4 gave them.) Bottom line is that "Soul" has never been used in any way for her; it's nothing but speculation, and thus it should not be presented as such on an encyclopedia. [[User:Capsule Computer|Capsule Computer]] 02:10, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
::::That's why we have the template... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 02:30, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::If you mean the "has no official name", that doesn't change the fact she's referred to as Soul throughout the article, which has lead to everyone annoyingly calling her as such like it's official. The most ridiculous thing is that the Japanese equivalent is there; seriously, what the hell? She should either not be referred to with any name or be called by a name that she's actually been seen having in-game, Heart. Not to mention it should be written in a way that explains where her names come from, rather than misleadingly-worded statements like "Soul is the female player character..." [[User:Capsule Computer|Capsule Computer]] 02:45, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::Perhaps the best way to approach this for now is to give the article a more neutral point of view with respect to the Kris/Soul debate. Also, I've stated several times on BMGf why I think using the default names isn't an indicator of this girl's identity. Default names have changed from game to game, see [[Gold (game)]]. Chances are, she'll have a new default name in HG/SS, but then again, so will Gold. The best evidence I can think of is to look at the anime and manga. If this girl is introduced as a separate character in those media, we can assume she's a new character in the games, if Crystal and Marina just end up getting new looks, then it's safe to say that this girl is Kris.[[User:Jeff|-Jeff]][[User talk:Jeff|(talk)]] 15:34, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
:::::::@ Eric Destler: Screens tell us which names the people who took the screens are using, not which names are default. As others have pointed out, we've seen screens with a number of names for the characters in Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum, and none of them were the names we wound up using for the characters. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 23:55, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Guys Kris is Soul. Give me one good reason why Kris isn't Soul.{{unsigned|Pokemon1234567890}}
:::::::::Because she broke Strong Bad's rule about Japanese cartoons. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:51, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
:Why cant you all just wait 40 days until the games come out and we can finally have the answer? Soul is an unofficial name. and think about it. Green/Leaf diddnt appear in Red/Blue/Yellow other then that picture in the guidebook. Even then, she was portrayed by her Manga counterpart. In the remakes she got a new look, and was basically a new character. --[[User:Blake|Blake]] 18:04, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

As far as I can tell, neither side of this argument has any real evidence to support its opinion. At this point, all anyone knows is that there's a female playable character in this game. Some people look at the design and see a radical redesign of Kris; others think it's a new character. The art is the only grounds anyone has for forming an opinion, and this page has certainly proved that that's not a good enough basis for making a decision. Since we've seen that the pre-release screenshots have a history of giving the characters different names from their "real" ones, the text boxes referring to her as "Heart" aren't any help either. In lieu of any new information either way, it would seem most reasonable to me to leave this page as it is until we know more. After all, if this is a redesign of Kris, I don't think anyone can disagree that it has succeeded in making her look like a new character, at least moreso than any previous redesign. We don't have any concrete information, so there's really nothing to do but wait. Bickering over whether Kris and "Soul's" hairstyles match obviously isn't going to get us anywhere. Actually, with the ridiculously fierce debate this trivial issue has inspired, I can only hope the girl ends up being named "Cindy." [[User:Kyunji|Kyunji]] 04:54, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Kyunji is right you know! Let's just STOP! It's really annoying! Let's just WAIT! Gees! Why does NO ONE listens!?

Signed,
--[[User:The Bulb's Master|The Bulb's Master]] 18:09, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
Master of Bulbasaur and the Turtwig♀
:Wait for what exactly? Nintendo to hold a press conference revealing this girl's identity? It's not going to happen, and no matter what evidence we get, this debate will continue to exist. I'm hoping that we can get some resolution when we find out how the Manga and possibly Anime handle this but I'm not holding my breath. The only thing that is known for now is that some people view her as an updated Kris, and some people view her as a new character. Currently, there are still articles, such as [[Kris (game)]] which refer to "Soul" as a new character. These need to be fixed to be more neutral with respect to the debate. Also, to fix this article, how about merging it with Kris's article, but giving the HG/SS girl her own section along with some background on the Kris/Soul debate?[[User:Jeff|-Jeff]][[User talk:Jeff|(talk)]] 17:21, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
::I agree. I think the primary reason most of the fandom is treating this as a new girl named Soul is because of the BP page. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 17:39, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:::I just think once we play the game and learn more of the storyline behind her, then we might have more of an idea of who she is. Merging them into one article will be messy, because once the games come out, there will be many things to add to this article, such as Party template(if you battle her), and the list of names to choose from. and she is obviously a new character. Soul really doesnt look much like her. Different hair styles, different clothes, different eye/hair colors, etc. Soul isnt any more a remake of Kris as [[Pearl (game)|Pearl]] is a remake of [[Wally]]. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 20:18, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
::Once again: Since we've established that there is no definite evidence to support either side of the argument, it would be illogical to reverse the article's current stance on the situation. Merging this article with Kris's would be an entirely subjective decision, and one could use what little we know now to make an equally valid case for separating the two again. Whatever happens, the nickname "Soul" is certainly here to stay; it's far too late to do anything about that. Personally, I'm fine with it -- if this is indeed a new character, there's precedent for the nomenclature in FRLG -- but unfortunately for those who disagree, it is very hard to remove an idea from the minds of the fanbase once it has been planted. On another note, I would certainly support making the other articles more neutral on the subject, since this has somehow turned into a serious issue. [[User:Kyunji|Kyunji]] 23:28, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Hasn't anyone thought that her name might change if you pick a diffrent starter Pokemon? For example: If you pick Totodile, her name is Kris. And if you pick a Chikitora, it's Heart! No one ever thought of that! Signed,--[[User:The Bulb's Master|The Bulb's Master]] 12:51, 5 August 2009 (UTC) Master of Bulbasaur and Turtwig♀
:That is very unlikely. The rival's Pokemon usually has an advantage over yours, and the Female's Pokemon usualy is whatever is left.(Although May/Brendan isnt considered your rival?) It has nothing to do with the names. The names are based on which version game you are playing. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 13:11, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
::Having watched this go nowhere for months, I have no hesitation in saying [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/index.php get to the forums] if you really want to theorize. There will be no solution to this debate, and hence Bulbapedia will stay with this ''temporary'' name until something more official comes out. End of story. Don't reply here. Srsly. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:31, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
:::I agree, I can see it that we might have to ban this if it get out of hand in forums and Bulbapedia.--[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight Blue]] 03:30, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Look, with the games announced here now, Pokémon.com will soon have pictures of the player characters (I give it a week or two) and one of us can write in and say: "I wemembew in Pokemon Cwystal, you could be a girl too, is this the same one?" then we'll have confirmation and we can wait to learn her pseudo-rival name to make it official (in less than a month).--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 03:35, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::I don't mean to get in the heat of the arguement here, but i have a question. Why are we calling her Soul? I'm neutral on the aspect of she is Kris or not (nor could i care), but if she's being called Heart in all the screenshots so far, and Gold being called Soul, why is she being called Soul? It's weird to base it off of one game's name. Wouldn't it be best to call her by the name she's being called in the screenshots? [[User:CherryParanoia|CherryParanoia]] 05:48, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::When FireRed and LeafGreen were made, they introduced a female playable character. It was later discovered that her name was Leaf, the prefix of the second remake name. Because of this, people gave this girl the name Soul. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 05:57, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Not to sound rude but... so what? In the screenshots, the guy is being referred to as Soul (well, Souru-Kun. Same thing) and she's being referred to as Heart. So wouldn't it be more correct to call her Heart? I don't think it matters what happened in Leaf Green, considering it makes no difference to this game at all. If the screenshots call her Heart, why can't we call her Heart? Even if we don't... its really incorrect to call her Soul because thats what the guy (known as Gold in the originals) is being referred to. Very confusing, if you ask me. o.O [[User:CherryParanoia|CherryParanoia]] 20:47, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Don't preach to me. I gave you the answer you were looking for, and I wasn't the one who named this page. It's not like it matters anyway. The Games come out in less then a month and then all will be set straight. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 04:49, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

===Section break 2===
Does any1 remember what was said on the remake speculation page? once doesn't make a pattern. [[User talk: ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']] 14:48, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
:Ok, look, seriously. Did my last "get off the page" rant not work? Listen.
:This is going nowhere. The game comes out in three weeks. It is noted on the page that it is a ''placeholder'' name, until we get the official one. When the game comes out, and we get a name, we'll move it then. And. Only. Then. No discussions.
:If you really feel so passionate about the Soul/Heart/Kris debate, there are more likeminded people [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/forumdisplay.php?f=368 right here]. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:05, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
::Has anyone actually thought that another reason for Soul to be Kris can be based on comparison of the female player character's artwork from RGBY and FRLG? Leaf doesn't look like anything as the Gen I girl yet they're the same characters and this is confirmed by the manga since it's based on the games. Likely, Leaf might not even be her real name, which means it's Blue. For English versions, she might be called Green unless we believe that FRLG fixed the RB fiasco. Also, for those that say the girl's Heart and that Gold is Soul, have you forgotten that those are example names like Diamond and Plato are for Lucas, right? Thus, the screenshots might be from SS. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 18:04, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
:::Leaf's her name. Confirmed by game data. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:34, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
::::Yeah, you're right. I don't even know why I thought otherwise when I wrote that, seriously. But my point remains valid though. I'm still doubtful that Gold is now Hibiki and Soul is Kotone, just because of the anime and Pokémon Sunday. Marina is Kris' anime counterpart but they didn't get the same name. So Kotone is still Soul for me. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 12:34, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::In the games she is Kotone. Deal with it. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 13:36, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::I won't get over it until the games have been hacked through and the data for both Gold and Soul has been obtained, like everyone else. And by your logic, then Dia and Pearl should've been the Japanese names for Lucas and Dawn, when they're obviously not. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 13:43, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

== A vast redesign? ==
She could just be a vast redesign of [[Kris (game)|Kris]]. The hair color change could be to get out of the Crystal theme, and Lorelei's hair went from deep purple to bright red. Both Lucas's and Dawn's outfuts changed vastly, so, my opinion is she's a redesign. [[User:Alec9|''alec'''9''''']] [[Special:Contributions/Alec9|*]] [[User talk:Alec9|-]] [[Gallade (Pokémon)|*]] 18:12, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

== Possible names ==

Okay lemme put these forward:
* ソウル ''Soul'' (based on precedent set by {{ga|Leaf}})
* ミキ ''Miki'' (default name used in Festa battle)
* ハート ''Heart'' (default name used in Festa battle)
* コトネ ''Kotone'' (according to [http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/9950/400760.jpg this])
* クリス ''Kris'' (Crystal, thanks)
* マリナ ''Marina'' (why not?)

Or it could be something completely out of the blue. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:04, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
:I think they called her Kotone in the anime as well. According to that scan anyway. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 04:05, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
::Still doesn't mean anything until the games say it. All the game/anime connection can help us with is her dub name for the episode, due to the {{an|May}}/{{ga|May}} and {{an|Dawn}}/{{ga|Dawn}} connection. And unless they rename Green as Gary and Red as Ash, that's still an up-in-the-air point. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:18, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
:I'm done with the whole Kris/Soul debate as it's completely ridiculous and dependent on one's definition of the word "character". That said, I still think this article belongs merged with [[Kris (game)]] for the sake of consistency with [[Gold (game)]].[[User:Jeff|-Jeff]][[User talk:Jeff|(talk)]] 14:25, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
::Regarding the so-called "precedent" set by Fire Red and Leaf Green, something happening once does not make it a pattern. [[User:Fishman|Fishman]] 18:56, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
:::I know, right? :/ But people don't listen. But judging by the screenshots, she appears as an NPC in game. So we'll have clarification that her name is Heart when the game is out. [[User:CherryParanoia|CherryParanoia]] 19:06, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
::::Did you guys ''REALLY'' have to reopen old wounds? The page was protected because of ranting like this. You want it to happen again? DROP IT. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 19:09, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

== The Final Judgment ==
Pokémon Sunday just confirmed Kotone to be her name in the games. --[[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] 23:26, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
:That's it! That's pretty much solid evidence! Is it not?! [[User:Alec9|''alec'''9''''']] [[Special:Contributions/Alec9|*]] [[User talk:Alec9|-]] [[Gallade (Pokémon)|*]] 23:44, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
Rain: How does this confirm she's not Kris again?
Remember, Gold has a new name too, it's Hibiki. He's not a new character though. It confirms her name, yes. But I say wait for the slight chance of the opposite gender being nameable and the girl being referred as 'Soul/Heart' confirming she's a new character.

Speaking of Hibiki, why isn't Gold (game) moved to Hibiki (game)?
EDIT: Even if she looked exactly like Kris, would anyone honestly expect her have to her pre-set name to be such? I'm doubtful people would be saying it confirms her being a new character if she looked exactly like Kris, but was still named Kotone. I can see why people see the anime thing as a confirmation, but ''this''? Gold and Kris didn't co-exist originally, so they didn't have normal common names. You guys may as well jump the gun and make a new article for the new male playable character, Hibiki. They can look exactly alike to be the different characters too, Cal anyone? {{unsigned|Raine}}

:Can you please go to the forum about this? We are totally sick of the arguments. For now, Gold is Gold and Kotone is Kotone. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 02:25, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

== Why remove all hints of Soul? ==

Shouldn't there be a trivia section mentioning that fans named her Soul and that she was referred to as Soul since she was revealed to this day? We do it for Silver saying how fans named him "Kamon". It's a big part of Kotone's history. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 00:08, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
:Thanks! --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 00:26, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

As for the trivia section, the page refers to her as having a Gold and Silver counterpart, shouldn't that be changed to Crystal as she never did have a G/S counterpart?--[[User:Terrios|Terrios]] 12:52, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

== As for her anime appearance ==

Remember what happened when [[Barry]] debuted. He wasn't part of {{ga|Pearl}}'s page for a reason: they're different characters. Same with {{an|Dawn}}-- she's barely mentioned on {{ga|Dawn}}'s page, and game-Dawn is not at all reflected on anime-Dawn's page.

So when Kotone appears in the anime, she'll be at {{an|Kotone}}. Until we get English names. Then we move both of these to the respective English names like we did Dawn and May.

Everyone got that? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:14, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
:Yes, TTE, most of us do remember what happen with Barry (or Jun for awhile). No1 make a page of Kotone until the Episodes ([[DP143]]/[[DP144]]) air. [[User talk: ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']] 02:59, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

== Her name actually is Soul. ==

I told my friend(who speaks Japanese fluently) about Soul being named Kotone, and he said Kotone is Soul in Japanese. So really, her name is Soul? '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 13:37, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
:Until the games are released, she'll remain Soul. For me, Kotone is to Soul what Diamond and Plato were to Lucas, placeholders used by Nintendo to showcase the games. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 13:49, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
::I am just saying, because I dont want everyone to change every single link and image name yet. Get a real translator(not google translator) and see what it says. Cause my friend said he looked in his Japanese dictionary and thats what it said. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 14:19, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
:::It should stay at Kotone because that is her name in Japanese. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 14:21, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
::::Where have Hibiki and Kotone been revealed to be Gold's and Soul's names? In Pokémon Sunday? Those names sound more like examples than the characters' real names. [[User:Pokemon lover|Pokemon lover]] 15:08, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::Well Kotone is still better than Soul. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 15:09, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::How is Kotone a better name then Soul? Still, the point is, the Pokemon sunday thing might have called her Kotone because Kotone is Soul in Japanese. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 15:53, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::::No, Kotone DOES NOT mean "Soul" in Japanese. Even if it did, we DO NOT translate names like that. It's like saying that Dawn is called "Light" in Japanese. But Kotone does not mean soul, anyway. It means "sound of a koto (harp)". --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 17:36, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

== Can someone change something for me plz ==

Can they change 6 September 2009's to September 6, 2009's that sounds a lot better. Plus I can't change it.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 15:17, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
:That's odd...you should be able to...it's not protected anymore...--'''Dark''' [[Mask of Ice|'''ICE''']] (User:Cold)([[user:Cold|page]], [[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 15:23, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
::Only established editors can edit it. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 15:56, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

== Page name ==

Why does it need to be "Kotone (game)", with "Kotone" being a redirect? If she's the only Kotone, her page should just be "Kotone", and, if there are others, "Kotone" needs to be a disambiguation page rather than a redirect. [[User:Flicky|Fli]][[User talk:Flicky|cky]][[User:Flicky/Latin|1991]] 07:52, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
:There is a change she will be named that in the anime. --[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 07:53, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
::Same as with {{ga|Pearl}} and {{ga|May}} and {{ga|Dawn}}. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:09, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

== Pronunciation? ==

I know this is a bit daft, but how do you pronounce Kotone's name? Is it KO-toan, ko-TOAN-ee or ko-TOAN-ay? [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 20:24, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
:I have no idea myself, but I've been pronouncing it "Koh-toe-nee". [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 00:02, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
::It's "Koh-toh-neh". →''[[User:Tina|'''T'''inā]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|★]] 00:06, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
:::According to Marriland and his videos, Its "Koh-toh-nay"[[User talk: ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']] 21:40, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
I have been saying it as Ko-tone(tone as in monotone)[[User:Evandeck|Evandeck]] 15:33, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
:Check your Japanese, then. Ko-to-ne. コトネ. コ (ko) ト (to) ネ (ne). Hiragana and katakana are syllabic script, kanji is logographic. Unlike rōmaji, of course, which we use (Roman characters), which are... letters. The only single-letter syllables in Japanese are ア/あ(a), イ/い (i), ウ/う (u), エ/え (e), オ/お (o), and ン/ん (n); all others are transliterated as more than one letter (at most three). Anything that's not hiragana, katakana, or rōmaji is kanji... and for that... well, that requires memorization, considering each can have ''several'' pronunciations and thus several romanizations. Now let's let 琴音 continue her journey in 城都 (way to go copy/paste from the {{wp|list of jōyō kanji}}). '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 18:42, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

== Kotone in japan. ==

This may be a stupid question but, don't you think Kotone is just her japenese name? Lunick v sonela 07:20, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
:Uhh... yeah. It's only in the infobox because it looks better than a blank. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 07:23, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
::No I mean won't they call her something else when they get to english speaking contries. Lunick v sonela 08:17, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
:::Most likely, yes, she will have an English name just like every other character. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 08:19, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

I maybe new here, but I've done a lot of research before. We know that Kotone means harp; lute, sound, right?
So, here's a quick detour of past names. 1st: When Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire were released in Japan, May's japanese name reveiled as Haruka which means spring/flowers, of course, in Pokemon Gold/Silver/Crystal, there was a twin trainer at the bug gym that had names of Amy and MAY, but by the time R/S/E were in USA, another clue was reveiled within the game that, when D/P came out in Japan, Dawn's name in japanese means light, so in the 3rd generation R/S/E, there was a Swimmer (Female) by Regice's chamber named DAWN, now that D/P/Plat. came out, yet another well played clue hides in the game. With HGSS coming out in Japan, we hear this new trainer named Kotone, which means, like I said, harp, lute; sound. Now here's where my prediction comes in. One of you meantioned a japanese friend saying Kotone means Soul, but you're all close! What is the only thing that has a soul? The answer is Angels! What names have the word Angel in it? Two of them: Angelica, which has too many letters in it, and Angela, which has all 7 spaces filled, but where does this have to do with the 2nd/3rd generation? Answer: In the Eterna City Gym, a Aroma Lady had the name ANGELA!
Conclusion: By looking in the games of the past, there will be clues. It happened the same in R/S when they talked about Kanto and they made FR/LG, and in D/P/Plat, they meantioned a few things about Johto, which made HGSS.- ''unsigned comment from {{u|Poke.trainer.1}} ([[User talk:Poke.trainer.1|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Poke.trainer.1|contribs]]) ''
:Erm... let's wait 'til it comes out for the English name.--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[User talk:RexRacer|Racer''']] 22:19, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
::I'll wait too. [[User:Lunick v sonela|Lunick v sonela]] 13:49, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
:::Those Trainer Names from previous generations are a coincidence. I wouldn't believe them. It's a very far-fetched and naive theory. We must wait. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 13:56, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
::::It's like saying that her name will be something like Sonora or Melody simply because they follow the HGSS sound-based naming conventions. Also "Angela" has six letters in it, not seven. ...Yeah that's not the point of this discussion, but hey. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 14:12, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
:::::Something has to be put in there, so until the english name comes out keep it there.--[[user:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] We are the Void 23:44, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

== Yes, I'm new, but ==

http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:HGSS_Kotone_Pokéthlon_Jersey.png - This ain't fan art, and I uploaded it, but I can't seem to edit the page and add it. Meh well. Same case with http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:HGSS_Hibiki_Pokéthlon_Jersey.png . -- [[User:Sotomura|Sotomura]] 05:39, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
:Gold/Hibiki's page is locked, so only admins can edit it. As for Kotone's, it's set so only "established users" can edit it, whatever that means. :P I can add the Kotone sprite if you'd like... where in the game is it from, exactly? [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 05:42, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
::I'd tell you to read the description, but I have to consider that I'm not the only lazy one. Anyway, it's their Pokéthlon sprites from HeartGold/SoulSilver. -- [[User:Sotomura|Sotomura]] 05:50, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

== Anime counterpart only? ==

"Due to the recent release of the games, no more counterparts for Kotone in other media have currently been released."

I do believe I saw a scan of her in some manga. Anyone want to look into that? --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 04:44, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
:From what I've read, the artwork your thinking of is of [[Crystal (Special)|Crystal]] [[User:ShinyPikachu/Petition|Never Give Up]] [[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']] 20:59, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
::No...there was a scan of her in some manga...I think that's where we first saw her name. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 21:21, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
:::Yeah, what Sketch said. This is the pic
:::http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/9950/400760.jpg
:::--[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 22:18, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
:::That scan is from a one-shot manga called ''Pocket Monsters HeartGold SoulSilver - Go! Go! Pokethlon'' by Ihara Shigekatsu and Hibiki also showed up in that manga, except his name was Takashi. It was released before the actual game, so I can see why Ihara named accidently named him that instead. Of course, it could be like Mistumi's and Hareta's situations.--[[User:Raine|Raine]] 19:33, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

== Do we know for sure that Hibiki/Kotone didn't take the third starter? ==
In the trivia section, it says Kotone is the only pseudo rival not to have a starter. (I'm wondering why it's not on Hibiki's page.) However, early in the game, they are seen with a different Pokemon, Zubat, so Marill isn't their only Pokemon not to mention later in the game the player sees thast the third starter is gone and asks him/herself said question. They could of taken the third starter, Marill might just be their first Pokemon in their party and we know that they have more than one Pokemon, so it's possible.
:Unless they are actually seen WITH the starter, it is speculation and it will not go in the article. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 16:17, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
::There's still a Poké Ball in Elm's lab, so it's pretty likely that Kotone/Hibiki doesn't have one of the actual Johto starters. →''[[User:Tina|'''T'''inā]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|★]] 16:26, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
:::No, no Tina...the Poké Ball disappears...but we don't know where to. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 16:54, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
::::Ooooh... heh. Japanese is a little lackluster. <_<; Assumed that it said something about a Poké Ball still being in there. HUR DISREGARD THAT. →''[[User:Tina|'''T'''inā]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|★]] 16:56, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

==Protection Next Week?==

Well, [[DP143]] is airing stateside next week, in which [[Kotone (anime)|Kotone]] will appear in the show. I was thinking that maybe this article should be protected next week since we won't know 100% if the name given to the anime version will be the same as the games. I mean sure there's really no reason they wouldn't be the same, but just in case maybe? --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 13:16, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
:I agree that it's pretty much guaranteed that the anime name used for her will be the same as the game one, but we're not moving the game one ''or'' {{ga|Gold}} until March 15. Because we'll be sure then. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:34, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

==English name==
It has been stated on Serebii.net that her english name is Lyra, but you guys are going to wait until its offically revealed, right? [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 23:22, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
:Indeed. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:42, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
::Where did Serebii ever say that was her name? --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 23:47, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
:::It's on their front page. Pokemon.com says it too. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 23:49, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
::::It didn't say it when this was posted. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 00:18, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::Lol, yeah it did, I'm not psychic. [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 00:20, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::Not on my computer. I refreshed like 5 times and nothing new was posted. Anyway, why is the official site distrusted so much. It's the official site and they have never been wrong about an English name. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 00:22, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
:I think sometimes it gives out not false, but information with errors in it. I couldn't give you any example though. Well, I could if I really wanted to look, but sometimes in the naming of the episodes. [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 00:34, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
::Just wait for the episode to air... it's just easier. And although it's been the trend for the past forever, her anime name is not neccesarily her game name anyways. --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 00:36, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
:::You're wrong about not making a mistake about an English name. [[Roman]] and [[Kylie]] had different names in their synopsis. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 00:39, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
::::Wow, two in a line of hundreds. Doesn't make the '''official''' site untrustworthy. Not to mention I changed Marcus's guide to his dub name when the Movie 12 site launched and no admin changed it back. I don't see why this has to be different. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 04:39, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::I personally think the Pokémon website is credible enough, however, the rule is we have to wait until the episode airs, especially because she's such a high-profile character. The page won't explode if it doesn't move for five days :P --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 06:33, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::Yeah, I realize that. It's just stupid that the admins don't trust the official site, except for rare circumstances. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 07:39, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
::It's not false. It's the correct name. Don't be ignorant. If Pokemon.com says it then that's an official source saying it. You can't trust an official source one time and then not another. Life doesn't work like that --[[User:Serebii|Serebii]] 08:18, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
:::I agree with Serebii. Her anime name IS Lyra, and Kotone (anime) SHOULD be renamed Lyra (anime). Or possibly just "Lyra", as we don't know if that'll be her name in the games. If it turns out to be wrong, it can be changed again, right? [[User:FireMeowth|FireMeowth]] 11:39, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
::::OMG... It's been like this for years now. You know the drill. Why are you all whining about this? And Serebii, we're not being ignorant. We just don't want to change names everywhere in case it turns out wrong. Pokemon.com has been wrong before. Just wait until Saturday. It's not a big deal. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 16:42, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::Because its a stupid rule. Official site is an official source. They've been wrong a couple times, doesn't mean it's untrustworthy. Not to mention they've never given wrong names to characters. All of those have been done by CN. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 21:47, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::Lol, omg u guys. Just wait 4 days, it's not the end of the world. Don't forget, Pokemon.com got [[Ada]]'s name wrong, calling her Audrey. And also, [[Kylie]], [[Roman]], and [[Thatcher]] as well. So just calm down, and wait. Bulbapedia has rules that we have to follow. No exceptions. [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 22:07, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::If everyone's going to make such a big stink of it, how about something like this as a compromise? In the trivia section:
::::::::On February 1, 2010, Pokémon.com announced the name of her anime counterpart to be Lyra, but as of {{#time: F j, Y}} is the only official source to have done so.
:::::::[[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 22:08, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
:::That would be alright, but you'd have to do it to Hibiki/Ethan/Gold, and the rocket admins as well for people to stop complaining? [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 22:19, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
::::They're a different story, because so far as I know they haven't been announced by any official source yet, have they? [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 22:33, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::Yes they have, they announced their names on serebii, and the same debate is going on on Gold's page as well. I dunno about Team Rocket's, i don't have them on my watchlist. [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 22:35, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::Serebii's not an official source. And although he must have gotten the names from somewhere, that somewhere might not be an official source either. [[User:Reign|Reign]] 22:48, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Lol, which brings us right back to the top of the discussion again. I think it is a good idea to put it on the trivia, do what you want to do, Umeko, kay? [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 22:54, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::::It should be in the trivia section of the anime character, though. [[User:FireMeowth|FireMeowth]] 22:59, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::I couldn't edit it in even if I wanted. Talk to an admin about it, not me. \o/ [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 23:04, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::No trivia section. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:15, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
Like I said, Bulbapedia may have it's rules, but not trusting the official source for one confirmed mistake doesn't make them untrustworthy. They could have easily changed their minds about character names just like they did with the episode titles [[EP070]] and [[DP091]]. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 04:56, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
:They could change their minds again. Nothing's stopping them. They could make her Jeena and Gold Rick by March 14, though likely the games are 99.9% ready to go at this point in time. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:33, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

== Korean Name ==

Because of page block I can't put it. It's 금선 ''Geumseon''. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 10:15, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
:Done. --[[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''☆''']][[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチュウ!''']] 10:22, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

== The name's Lyra ==

Yup. It is. --[[User:Poke nav|Po]][[User talk:Poke nav|ké]][[Special:Contributions/Poke nav|nav]]. [[User:Poke nav/Glitch|Is]] [[User:Poke nav/User Boxes|a]] [[User:Poke nav/Histories|glitch]] [[User:Poke nav/Manga|master!]] 01:28, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
:Do people not read the talk page at all before posting? [[Talk:Kotone (game)#English name|We ''just'' talked about this]]. :/ It's not going on the page before the game's released. ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 01:49, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
::That's totally unfair! I'm going to ask TPCI whether or not they're naming her Lyra. ''Then'' you will have ''concrete'' proof! [[User:Magikarp123193|magikarp123193]] 14:10, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Is anyone going to atleast put that the animé counterpart's name is Lyra? At the moment it says she has the same name as her - and we're still calling game-Kotone Kotone. :S [[User:Lucadan|'''''Lucadan''''']] [[User talk:Lucadan|'''''(Talk)''''']] 11:51, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

== Name Changing ==

shouldn't we change all of her names to Lyra instead of leaving them as kotone. {{u|Eevee obsessed 008}}
:[[#English name|We've talked about this]] in [[#The name's Lyra|Two sections already]]. Until HGSS releases in English, she's staying Kotone. While it's highly unlikely that the name won't be different from her {{an|Lyra|anime counterpart}}, the English localizing team still could change something. We're not going to jump the gun. - [[User:Kogoro|'''<sc>Kogoro</sc>''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<sc>Talk to me</sc>''']] - 21:20, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

== Kotone's Korean name ==

It means "String of a harp". 금 → a type of harp (I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be a koto) and 선 → string. So that ties into her Japanese name. '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 00:42, 9 February 2010 (UTC)