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Talk:Groudon (Pokémon)

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== Groudon VS. Kyogre ==
If a Groudon battled a Kyogre, and they were both same level, would drought or drizzle last for the rest of the battle? [[User:Zapdos|Zapdos]] 14:18, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Maybe both... but is that possible? --[[User:Hey1031|Hey1031]] 14:28, 24 February 2008 (UTC)♫☆
:I'm not completely possitive, but I think that they'll just cancel each other out. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 17:17, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
::I've already had this dicussion before. The weather effect is chosen at random between the two. [[User:Tesh|'''TESHIGIGAS''']] 17:22, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

:::I've read that it's whichever Pokémon has lower speed. I don't know where I read that, but it was somewhere. Possibly here, possibly Serebii. [[User:Zurqoxn|Zurqoxn]] 23:02, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
::::Well that actually does sound pretty logical. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 23:05, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::Lower speed? Wait that doesn't make sense, it's not the other way around? Why would some Pokémon with lower speed have their ability to work quicker?
:::::I know I'm going off-topic now, but how can I get Pokémon sprites to my signature like you guys have? [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 23:34, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
::::::Oh, I didn't see the lower speed thing. Yea, I think it will be the effect of the one with the '''higher''' speed stat. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 23:54, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Come to think of it the one with lower speed CAN make sense. Could it be possible that the first weather takes effect and then the other one replaces it? I'd love to see a YouTube video of this happening. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 00:30, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
::::::::I got a better idea I will MAKE a YouTube video with that happening. I will do that on Wednesday. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 00:33, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
::::::::I'm up for a battle, 1 on 1, Groudon VS (my) Kyogre. [[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[Special:Contributions/TinaTheKirlia|☆]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]]{{ani|281}} 00:35, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

I thought it was whoever was sent out second, their Ability will take effect... ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 01:52, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
:Except for the fact that they're both sent out at the same time. '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''01:58 4 Jun 2008'''''

::But the games don't actually show them being sent out at exactly the same time... ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 16:43, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
:::When its groudons turn, drought is in effect and vice versa ([[User:MathijsP|MathijsP]] 16:57, 4 June 2008 (UTC))

::::If that's the case, then Kyogre should win the battle seeing that it has the type advantage that is increased by its Drizzle Ability. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:05, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

I've had experience with this since me and my friend battle our groudon and kyogre respectivly, the pokemon who is sent out '''second''' will have it's ability active since it overrides the first one's ability, speed has nothing to do with it and no game has changed that not even battle revolution. so technically it's random since the the first one out almost always changes each battle. - [[User:Geomexis|Geomexis]] 13:38, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
:What really happens is that Drought and Drizzle really do activate in Speed order, if both Groudon and Kyogre are sent out first. The faster Pokémon's ability activates, then the slower one's activates. If both Groudon and Kyogre are switched in at the same time, then the Pokémon that actually comes out of the Poké Ball first activates its ability first, then the other one's activates afterward. That situation depends on who selects to switch Pokémon out first/last. This also applies to Tyranitar, Hippowdon, and Abomasnow. [[User:Ranko Hoshino|Ranko Hoshino]] 02:01, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

== Fake Groudons ==

Perhaps it could be an interesting trivia how Groudon copies and illusions have appeared lots: That ''thing'' in the Jirachi movie, Mismagius' illusion and Uxie's illusion in Pokemon Mystery Dungeon 2

:/
::exactly, I forgot about the Mismagius thing but it is definatley trivia worth [[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamate]][[User Talk:Ultamatecharizard|Charizard]] 16:13, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

I was watching ''Jirachi: The Wishmaker'' the other day, and i think the movie provides useful insight into how the real Groudon, Kyogre, and Rayquaza were created. The movie reveals that at least two things are necessary to create one of the Weather Trio: a special mineral of which their bodies consist, and a special marking. Whoever created each of them, let's say Arceus, drew markings into the ground using the aforementioned mineral, and like a spell, a being arose with the abilities of said markings. The reason that Butler's plan didn't work was because the marking for Groudon wasn't finished since Jirachi was taken out of the machine. The result was a monster that was kind of like Groudon, but had watery tendrils, and absorbed all the life it could reach into its body. (I call it 'Grougre' since it looked like Groudon, could manipulate water like Kyogre, and had the uncanny power to absorb life. At least, i think it's a good name. :P ) Anyway, that would explain why Groudon, Kyogre, and Rayquaza all have strange, unique markings on them.
Also, shouldn't an article be made about the monster Groudon?-- [[User:Webspidrman|Webspidrman]] 02:56, 26 May 2010

== Groudon Origins ==

I noticed that there is no similarity to Groudon and Godzilla. Considering it battles Kyogre and levels sootopolis, also considering its appearance, I think Godzilla should be added to its list of possible origins.--[[User:Janis|Janis]] 20:02, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

:yes, it could be, and it could be compared that Groudon's [[Solar Beam]] comes out from its mouth like what Godzilla do when it uses its Atomic Breath? [[User:Palkia38|Palkia38]] 11:57, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

not to mention that it's shiny form is yellow, like godzilla.--[[user:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] We are the Void 00:12, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

:wait what? in what godzilla anything is godzilla yellow?! i grew up on godzilla stuff and i think i'd remember his color changing from he dark green, dark blue, or dark browns that he's always been depicted as to yellow. - [[User:Geomexis|Geomexis]] 13:40, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

::Godzilla's either charcoal-grey (most movies) or dark green (Hanna-Barbera cartoon, 2000, vs. Megaguirus). Either way, not yellow. [[User:Goldenpelt|Goldenpelt]] 09:41, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

== Something else about the name origin? ==

Perhaps the "don" in "Groudon" stands for the Japanese ドンッ (''don'') which is an onomatopoeia for a crash? (Considering that Groudon can create earthquakes by slamming its feet onto the ground, they would make the "don" sound) Just wondering. [[User:Ztobor|Ztobor]] 04:37, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

== HG/SS Japanese Text ==
I notice that the Japanese text here is not translated like in most/all of the other Pokémon pages. I would do this, but I don't speak japanese and I know Google translator can be very iffy when translating more than a word or two. If someone could do this, that would be great.[[User:Poisson14|Poisson14]] 02:11, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

== Height Trivia ==
Groudon in the anime IS the correct size. It's not the same HEIGHT as Arbok, as Arbok's "height" is LENGTH. Look at the two in the PokéDex for crying out loud! I would upload a comparison pic myself but I have no way of recording anything on my DSi unlike most other people. [[User:Shiramu Kuromu|Shiramu Kuromu]] 19:40, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

== Type Trivia ==
"Groudon is the only Ground-type Legendary Pokémon, excluding Arceus holding an Earth Plate."
[[Landlos (Pokémon)]]
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[[User:Mewtwo777|I am Darth Mewtwo... Fear me, and my team made entirely of Mewtwo!!!]] 23:45, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
:It obviously hadn't been updated since BW was released. If you see other things like that, there's no need to talk page it. Just remove it. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 23:58, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

== Maylupa? ==

Who added the 'Maylupa' trivia? I'm just asking because I've never heard of it before and a quick Google turned up squat. Could someone please clarify and expand this trivia? --[[User:Manga-in-a-bottle|Manga-in-a-bottle]] 08:52, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

:Apparently, someone must have thought "Maylupa" is a name of a deity. I took that trivia out, since it's actually just {{tt|Filipino|From Google Translate}} for "landlord". [[User:神奇超龍|神奇超龍]] 10:08, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

== Groudon's Draught effect in Pokémon Ruby - need confirmation ==

I'd like to point something that happened in my game.

I always took the time to replant a seed in the areas where I took out berries.
Also, if I found an area where the soil was empty, I'd plant a berry there too.

Now, according to some NPC in the game, when a tree is grown and no one picks the berries, a berry drops on the soil and the tree starts growing again, right?

Well, after I caught Groudon, I went back through the map to check on a few things, and noticed that several soil patches were completely empty.
Nothing was there.

I believe this was because I didn't rush to catch Groudon...
I just went around, leveled up, and did other stuff.
Could this be the effect of Draught over the world map?

I just need someone who has been playing this game to confirm if this is true, or if there's some other explanation for the empty soil patches
(there were many, in several routes, not just one).

Also, if there are other effects like a constant low tide in shoal islands
(I thought about this one only after I saw the patches, so I already had Groudon caught)

If it's true, then it would make sense to think that Kyogre's rain, over a long period of time, may have an effect as well
(perhaps increased berry growth? constant high tide?)

Any input from anyone who has Ruby, Sapphire or even Emerald is appreciated, thanks. {{unsigned|Raven-14}}
:How long did you leave it before going back to check? They will only replant themselves a certain number of times. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 08:13, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
::I was regularly going back to collect berries, now that I had Fly available (for use in Pokeblocks and also use them instead of Antidotes and Full Heals because it saves money), so no more than 2 days of real time and around 6 to 8 hours of game time. I was leveling in that time and then caught Groudon. After that, when I made my runs through the several routes to gather the berries, some were completely gone, others were still there.
::[[User:Raven-14|Raven-14]] 10:01, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

== trivia ==

arent groundon and [[kyogre]] the only 2 non bw legendaries that haven't had a major movie role--[[User:Ash0011|Ash0011]] 13:59, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
:{{p|Cresselia}}, {{p|Ho-Oh}} and [[Lake guardians]] had no role as well, as far as I remember. {{p|Heatran}}, {{p|Raikou}} had only minor roles... --[[User:ЫъГЬ|ЫъГЬ]] 15:24, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
::forgot about those, but {{p|Raikou}} was in the new movie--[[User:Ash0011|Ash0011]] 18:49, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

== Grouse ==

Is it possible Groudon is based on a male 'red phase' ruffed grouse? {{unsigned|Kenshiyo}}
:I looked it up, and they honestly don't seem to have much in common at all besides having Grou- in their names. --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 22:46, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

== Pokémon Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire ==

Shouldn't we add Groudon and Kyogre's 3DS box art appearance to their page ?--[[User:Wolfy Harfleur 76700|Wolfy Harfleur 76700]] ([[User talk:Wolfy Harfleur 76700|talk]]) 12:46, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
:Not until we know what exactly they are (Megas, new forms, etc.).--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 12:50, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

== Cannot Edit Article ==

I recognize that this is likely due to an effort to prevent speculatory hype for Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire, but this is disappointing. I was going to modify some text to correct some errors on the page.

For example, this is a segment of the current text in the introduction:

:Groudon possesses the ability to expand continents. In ancient times it came in conflict with Kyogre, a Pokémon with the ability to expand the oceans. In Pokémon Ruby and Emerald Versions, Groudon is sought after by Team Magma as a major part of their plot to create more habitats for land Pokémon by lowering the sea level.

I wanted to change it to this:

:Groudon possesses the ability to disperse clouds and rain, and cause widespread temporary droughts. In Hoenn mythology, it is said to expand continents, which lead to a conflict in ancient times with Kyogre, a Pokémon said to have the ability to expand the oceans. In Pokémon Ruby and Emerald Versions, Groudon is sought after by Team Magma as a major part of their plot to create more habitats for land Pokémon by lowering the sea level.

Under Biology, I found a small issue.

:Groudon is a massive, bipedal, dinosaur-like creature covered in red, segmented plates of thick skin that act as armor.

As 11.5 feet is hardly massive (though massive may refer to the weight), I was going to change that to this:

:Groudon is a large, bipedal, dinosaur-like creature covered in red, segmented plates of thick skin that act as armor.

I was also going to make similar changes to the Kyogre page, but they are both locked from editing so...

Be warned that the Rayquaza page is ''not'' locked.

--[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of X]] ([[User talk:Mackinz|talk]]) 23:21, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

Talk:Panpour (Pokémon)

2013-11-29T16:41:55Z

Mackinz: /* Panpour and Simipour actually have white eyes */

== Sanzaru ==

Yes I know this is speculative but I kinda thought of this

look at Hiyappu and how it has its eyes closed

[[File:511Pansage.png|right|thumb|See no evil]]

now look at Baoppu and its pose..it looks like it wants you to speak up

[[File:513Pansear.png|right|thumb|Hear no evil]]

and Yanappu its mouth is open...but is there sound coming out?

[[File:515Panpour.png|right|thumb|Speak no evil]]

http://www.aspencountry.com/assets/product_images/product_lib/31000-31999/31655.jpg

doesnt it look similar to the {{wp|Three wise monkeys}}? maybe it could be added to the origins?

sorry for bothering if not..[[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 15:37, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
:That's an interesting thought.--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 18:07, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
::Thank you, I looked at them and I knew it reminded me of somethingalso If you look their tails resemble card symbols Yanappu (heart) Baoppu (Ace) and Hiyappu (spade) but that's not really trivia [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 18:28, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

could it be that the monkeys tail indicates their number look baoppu has one end yanappu has two ends and hiyappu has three like a clover isn't it?[[User:Badwolf1234|Badwolf1234]] 04:07, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

== name origin? ==

When I first saw Hiyappu (ヒヤップ) I mistakenly read its name as Hiyassu (I feel embarrassed, lol), so my first thought of the origin of the name was the verb 冷やす (hiyasu) ''to cool, to chill''. It seems I wasn't far off, because with a quick little dictionary research I found 冷や (hiya) ''cool water/{{wp|sake}}''. I assume at this point 冷や + ''ape'' (as speculated in the Yanappu article) is a good guess, so I'll add it to the article.
:Um my Appu = ape line wasn't really true...it would be eipu if it was ape...[[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 23:35, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
::Yeah, that does make sense... But it's the best we have for now, lol.
::Oops, I see I forgot to sign my previous post. [[User:BlackySully|㊰'''ブラッキーシュリー''']] 00:05, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

== How is this not a plausible origin? ==

''"Its shut eyes may also represent {{wp|envy}}, one of the {{wp|cardinal sins}}. In part two of {{wp|Dante|Dante's}} ''{{wp|Divine Comedy}}'', ''{{wp|Purgatorio}}'', the punishment for being envious was to have your eyes sewn shut with wire."''

Not only are its eyes are slit and closed it is also coincidentally is based off of the see-no-evil monkey, which is similar to the greed punishment. - [[User:050294|050294]] 05:51, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
:It seems plausible enough to me. It's rare that Pokémon is based on only a single origin. "the punishment for the envious is to have their eyes sewn shut with wire because they have gained sinful pleasure from seeing others brought low." sounds basically the same as "see no evil", so I say it's worth keeping up. [[Typhlosion|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon|★]] [[User_talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]] 06:16, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

== Move to Panpour ==

[http://files.droplr.com/files/19310907/HMun.Photo12291808_1.jpg We have more confirmation.]--'''[[User:Immewnity|''immewnity'']][[User talk:Immewnity|the]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|mew]]''' 01:38, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
:As I said on the talk page for what will soon be the Pansear article, agreed 100%. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 03:48, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

== Ahuizotl ==

Can someone edit the wikipedia link for Ahuizotl to link to Ahuizotl (creature)? The default for that goes to a king named after the creature, not the creature itself. [[User:Phantomjunkie|Phantom]]♫[[User talk:Phantomjunkie|Junkie]] 16:28, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

==Notable Trivia?==
Panpour and its evolution are the only Pokemon to learn Scald via level-up, but ironically Panpour's Chinese name 冷水猴 means "''Cold Water'' Monkey"! Does this seem like a notable trivia? Personally I find it pretty interesting...{{unsigned|KingKairos}}
:To be fair, its Japanese name also contains ''cool water'', so it was probably intentional. ----'''神智の[[User:神奇超龍|超龍]]「'''[[User talk:神奇超龍|對話]]'''」''' 08:47, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

==Should add this==
In [[BW005|Triple Leaders, Triple Threats!]] Ash's Pokedex said that Panpour lived in the forest in acient times then it's body changed so it can live near water. [[User:Grabbergirl|Pokemon FTW!!!!]] ([[User talk:Grabbergirl|talk]]) 20:43, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
:It's already in ''In the anime'' section. Also, your signature must resemble your username in some way so please change it.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 21:02, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

==Panpour and Simipour actually have white eyes==
While evolving my Panpour in X today, I watched both my Panpour and Simipour blink. Noticing something weird, I went to my Pokedex and looked at their animation more.

Their eyes are not closed. The top half of their "eyes" are actually their eyelid, and, in X and Y, is a slightly different color than their eyes. When they blink, their off-white eyelids cover their white eyes and open to reveal the same white eyes.

As it is listed as "black" in the entry, I will correct this.

-[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] ([[User talk:Mackinz|talk]]) 04:08, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
:I think you're mistaken. I checked my game as well as Pokedex 3D Pro. Both of its eyelids are exactly the same color. Yes, they move, but that's so it can express its emotions. They are closed. All Pansage, Simisage, Pansear, and Simisear all close their eyes the same way Panpour and Simipour do (albeit slightly different looking). [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 05:09, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
::In Pokedex 3D Pro, maybe (I can't say), but in my X it is apparent (to me) that the eyelid (top half) is a slightly different color than the eye (bottom half). It's off-white (the top is) so it may be hard to notice at first. Keep looking.

::The eyes are NOT closed... that's why it observably blinks. :|

::It would actually tie in more to Panpour/Simipour and the other monkey's motif of the three wise monkeys if so. Whitened eyes are a symbol of blindness, tying into the "See no evil" thing even better.

::I'll test in Pokemon-Amie in a bit to see if this changes.
::-[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] ([[User talk:Mackinz|talk]]) 07:40, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

::Off-white color of the eyelids is even more noticeable in Pokemon-Amie.
::-[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] ([[User talk:Mackinz|talk]]) 07:45, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

::Downloaded the images of Panpour and Simipour and sampled the colors of the eye and eyelid in Paint Tool SAI. Seems that each eye and eyelid is its own shade of off-white, with the eyelids being slightly more white than the eyes. Given that it looks different in X and Y, I am not sure what to make of this.
::-[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of X]] ([[User talk:Mackinz|talk]]) 16:41, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

Talk:Unknown Dungeon (Kalos)

2013-11-29T08:13:14Z

Mackinz: /* Respawning Oval Stone */

==Respawning Oval Stone==

I have confirmed that the Oval Stone one finds in this Unknown Dungeon respawned. At least, so far. I now have two Oval Stones, one from right after I caught Mewtwo and one from just now. Will check back tomorrow to see if it respawns again, and when it does.

Actually, since it's now past 12AM, I'll check again.

-[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] ([[User talk:Mackinz|talk]]) 08:04, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
:Did not seem to respawn after 12AM. Will check back at the following times: 7AM, 12PM, and 11:50PM (time I believe I grabbed the stone last night, being 25 minutes ago).
:-[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] ([[User talk:Mackinz|talk]]) 08:13, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

Talk:Unknown Dungeon (Kalos)

2013-11-29T08:04:44Z

Mackinz: Created page with "==Respawning Oval Stone== I have confirmed that the Oval Stone one finds in this Unknown Dungeon respawned. At least, so far. I now have two Oval Stones, one from right after..."

Talk:Panpour (Pokémon)

2013-11-29T07:46:01Z

Mackinz: /* Panpour and Simipour actually have white eyes */

Talk:Panpour (Pokémon)

2013-11-29T07:45:30Z

Mackinz: /* Panpour and Simipour actually have white eyes */

== Sanzaru ==

Yes I know this is speculative but I kinda thought of this

look at Hiyappu and how it has its eyes closed

[[File:511Pansage.png|right|thumb|See no evil]]

now look at Baoppu and its pose..it looks like it wants you to speak up

[[File:513Pansear.png|right|thumb|Hear no evil]]

and Yanappu its mouth is open...but is there sound coming out?

[[File:515Panpour.png|right|thumb|Speak no evil]]

http://www.aspencountry.com/assets/product_images/product_lib/31000-31999/31655.jpg

doesnt it look similar to the {{wp|Three wise monkeys}}? maybe it could be added to the origins?

sorry for bothering if not..[[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 15:37, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
:That's an interesting thought.--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 18:07, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
::Thank you, I looked at them and I knew it reminded me of somethingalso If you look their tails resemble card symbols Yanappu (heart) Baoppu (Ace) and Hiyappu (spade) but that's not really trivia [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 18:28, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

could it be that the monkeys tail indicates their number look baoppu has one end yanappu has two ends and hiyappu has three like a clover isn't it?[[User:Badwolf1234|Badwolf1234]] 04:07, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

== name origin? ==

When I first saw Hiyappu (ヒヤップ) I mistakenly read its name as Hiyassu (I feel embarrassed, lol), so my first thought of the origin of the name was the verb 冷やす (hiyasu) ''to cool, to chill''. It seems I wasn't far off, because with a quick little dictionary research I found 冷や (hiya) ''cool water/{{wp|sake}}''. I assume at this point 冷や + ''ape'' (as speculated in the Yanappu article) is a good guess, so I'll add it to the article.
:Um my Appu = ape line wasn't really true...it would be eipu if it was ape...[[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 23:35, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
::Yeah, that does make sense... But it's the best we have for now, lol.
::Oops, I see I forgot to sign my previous post. [[User:BlackySully|㊰'''ブラッキーシュリー''']] 00:05, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

== How is this not a plausible origin? ==

''"Its shut eyes may also represent {{wp|envy}}, one of the {{wp|cardinal sins}}. In part two of {{wp|Dante|Dante's}} ''{{wp|Divine Comedy}}'', ''{{wp|Purgatorio}}'', the punishment for being envious was to have your eyes sewn shut with wire."''

Not only are its eyes are slit and closed it is also coincidentally is based off of the see-no-evil monkey, which is similar to the greed punishment. - [[User:050294|050294]] 05:51, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
:It seems plausible enough to me. It's rare that Pokémon is based on only a single origin. "the punishment for the envious is to have their eyes sewn shut with wire because they have gained sinful pleasure from seeing others brought low." sounds basically the same as "see no evil", so I say it's worth keeping up. [[Typhlosion|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon|★]] [[User_talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]] 06:16, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

== Move to Panpour ==

[http://files.droplr.com/files/19310907/HMun.Photo12291808_1.jpg We have more confirmation.]--'''[[User:Immewnity|''immewnity'']][[User talk:Immewnity|the]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|mew]]''' 01:38, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
:As I said on the talk page for what will soon be the Pansear article, agreed 100%. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 03:48, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

== Ahuizotl ==

Can someone edit the wikipedia link for Ahuizotl to link to Ahuizotl (creature)? The default for that goes to a king named after the creature, not the creature itself. [[User:Phantomjunkie|Phantom]]♫[[User talk:Phantomjunkie|Junkie]] 16:28, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

==Notable Trivia?==
Panpour and its evolution are the only Pokemon to learn Scald via level-up, but ironically Panpour's Chinese name 冷水猴 means "''Cold Water'' Monkey"! Does this seem like a notable trivia? Personally I find it pretty interesting...{{unsigned|KingKairos}}
:To be fair, its Japanese name also contains ''cool water'', so it was probably intentional. ----'''神智の[[User:神奇超龍|超龍]]「'''[[User talk:神奇超龍|對話]]'''」''' 08:47, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

==Should add this==
In [[BW005|Triple Leaders, Triple Threats!]] Ash's Pokedex said that Panpour lived in the forest in acient times then it's body changed so it can live near water. [[User:Grabbergirl|Pokemon FTW!!!!]] ([[User talk:Grabbergirl|talk]]) 20:43, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
:It's already in ''In the anime'' section. Also, your signature must resemble your username in some way so please change it.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 21:02, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

==Panpour and Simipour actually have white eyes==
While evolving my Panpour in X today, I watched both my Panpour and Simipour blink. Noticing something weird, I went to my Pokedex and looked at their animation more.

Their eyes are not closed. The top half of their "eyes" are actually their eyelid, and, in X and Y, is a slightly different color than their eyes. When they blink, their off-white eyelids cover their white eyes and open to reveal the same white eyes.

As it is listed as "black" in the entry, I will correct this.

-[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] ([[User talk:Mackinz|talk]]) 04:08, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
:I think you're mistaken. I checked my game as well as Pokedex 3D Pro. Both of its eyelids are exactly the same color. Yes, they move, but that's so it can express its emotions. They are closed. All Pansage, Simisage, Pansear, and Simisear all close their eyes the same way Panpour and Simipour do (albeit slightly different looking). [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 05:09, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
::In Pokedex 3D Pro, maybe (I can't say), but in my X it is apparent (to me) that the eyelid (top half) is a slightly different color than the eye (bottom half). It's off-white (the top is) so it may be hard to notice at first. Keep looking.

::The eyes are NOT closed... that's why it observably blinks. :|

::It would actually tie in more to Panpour/Simipour and the other monkey's motif of the three wise monkeys if so. Whitened eyes are a symbol of blindness, tying into the "See no evil" thing even better.

::I'll test in Pokemon-Amie in a bit to see if this changes. -[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] ([[User talk:Mackinz|talk]]) 07:40, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

::Off-white color of the eyelids is even more noticeable in Pokemon-Amie. -[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] ([[User talk:Mackinz|talk]]) 07:45, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

Talk:Panpour (Pokémon)

2013-11-29T07:42:22Z

Mackinz: /* Panpour and Simipour actually have white eyes */

== Sanzaru ==

Yes I know this is speculative but I kinda thought of this

look at Hiyappu and how it has its eyes closed

[[File:511Pansage.png|right|thumb|See no evil]]

now look at Baoppu and its pose..it looks like it wants you to speak up

[[File:513Pansear.png|right|thumb|Hear no evil]]

and Yanappu its mouth is open...but is there sound coming out?

[[File:515Panpour.png|right|thumb|Speak no evil]]

http://www.aspencountry.com/assets/product_images/product_lib/31000-31999/31655.jpg

doesnt it look similar to the {{wp|Three wise monkeys}}? maybe it could be added to the origins?

sorry for bothering if not..[[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 15:37, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
:That's an interesting thought.--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 18:07, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
::Thank you, I looked at them and I knew it reminded me of somethingalso If you look their tails resemble card symbols Yanappu (heart) Baoppu (Ace) and Hiyappu (spade) but that's not really trivia [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 18:28, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

could it be that the monkeys tail indicates their number look baoppu has one end yanappu has two ends and hiyappu has three like a clover isn't it?[[User:Badwolf1234|Badwolf1234]] 04:07, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

== name origin? ==

When I first saw Hiyappu (ヒヤップ) I mistakenly read its name as Hiyassu (I feel embarrassed, lol), so my first thought of the origin of the name was the verb 冷やす (hiyasu) ''to cool, to chill''. It seems I wasn't far off, because with a quick little dictionary research I found 冷や (hiya) ''cool water/{{wp|sake}}''. I assume at this point 冷や + ''ape'' (as speculated in the Yanappu article) is a good guess, so I'll add it to the article.
:Um my Appu = ape line wasn't really true...it would be eipu if it was ape...[[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 23:35, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
::Yeah, that does make sense... But it's the best we have for now, lol.
::Oops, I see I forgot to sign my previous post. [[User:BlackySully|㊰'''ブラッキーシュリー''']] 00:05, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

== How is this not a plausible origin? ==

''"Its shut eyes may also represent {{wp|envy}}, one of the {{wp|cardinal sins}}. In part two of {{wp|Dante|Dante's}} ''{{wp|Divine Comedy}}'', ''{{wp|Purgatorio}}'', the punishment for being envious was to have your eyes sewn shut with wire."''

Not only are its eyes are slit and closed it is also coincidentally is based off of the see-no-evil monkey, which is similar to the greed punishment. - [[User:050294|050294]] 05:51, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
:It seems plausible enough to me. It's rare that Pokémon is based on only a single origin. "the punishment for the envious is to have their eyes sewn shut with wire because they have gained sinful pleasure from seeing others brought low." sounds basically the same as "see no evil", so I say it's worth keeping up. [[Typhlosion|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon|★]] [[User_talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]] 06:16, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

== Move to Panpour ==

[http://files.droplr.com/files/19310907/HMun.Photo12291808_1.jpg We have more confirmation.]--'''[[User:Immewnity|''immewnity'']][[User talk:Immewnity|the]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|mew]]''' 01:38, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
:As I said on the talk page for what will soon be the Pansear article, agreed 100%. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 03:48, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

== Ahuizotl ==

Can someone edit the wikipedia link for Ahuizotl to link to Ahuizotl (creature)? The default for that goes to a king named after the creature, not the creature itself. [[User:Phantomjunkie|Phantom]]♫[[User talk:Phantomjunkie|Junkie]] 16:28, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

==Notable Trivia?==
Panpour and its evolution are the only Pokemon to learn Scald via level-up, but ironically Panpour's Chinese name 冷水猴 means "''Cold Water'' Monkey"! Does this seem like a notable trivia? Personally I find it pretty interesting...{{unsigned|KingKairos}}
:To be fair, its Japanese name also contains ''cool water'', so it was probably intentional. ----'''神智の[[User:神奇超龍|超龍]]「'''[[User talk:神奇超龍|對話]]'''」''' 08:47, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

==Should add this==
In [[BW005|Triple Leaders, Triple Threats!]] Ash's Pokedex said that Panpour lived in the forest in acient times then it's body changed so it can live near water. [[User:Grabbergirl|Pokemon FTW!!!!]] ([[User talk:Grabbergirl|talk]]) 20:43, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
:It's already in ''In the anime'' section. Also, your signature must resemble your username in some way so please change it.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 21:02, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

==Panpour and Simipour actually have white eyes==
While evolving my Panpour in X today, I watched both my Panpour and Simipour blink. Noticing something weird, I went to my Pokedex and looked at their animation more.

Their eyes are not closed. The top half of their "eyes" are actually their eyelid, and, in X and Y, is a slightly different color than their eyes. When they blink, their off-white eyelids cover their white eyes and open to reveal the same white eyes.

As it is listed as "black" in the entry, I will correct this.

-[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] ([[User talk:Mackinz|talk]]) 04:08, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
:I think you're mistaken. I checked my game as well as Pokedex 3D Pro. Both of its eyelids are exactly the same color. Yes, they move, but that's so it can express its emotions. They are closed. All Pansage, Simisage, Pansear, and Simisear all close their eyes the same way Panpour and Simipour do (albeit slightly different looking). [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 05:09, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
::In Pokedex 3D Pro, maybe (I can't say), but in my X it is apparent (to me) that the eyelid (top half) is a slightly different color than the eye (bottom half). It's off-white (the top is) so it may be hard to notice at first. Keep looking.

::The eyes are NOT closed... that's why it observably blinks. :|

::It would actually tie in more to Panpour/Simipour and the other monkey's motif of the three wise monkeys if so. Whitened eyes are a symbol of blindness, tying into the "See no evil" thing even better.

::I'll test in Pokemon-Amie in a bit to see if this changes. -[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] ([[User talk:Mackinz|talk]]) 07:40, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

Talk:Panpour (Pokémon)

2013-11-29T07:41:51Z

Mackinz: /* Panpour and Simipour actually have white eyes */

== Sanzaru ==

Yes I know this is speculative but I kinda thought of this

look at Hiyappu and how it has its eyes closed

[[File:511Pansage.png|right|thumb|See no evil]]

now look at Baoppu and its pose..it looks like it wants you to speak up

[[File:513Pansear.png|right|thumb|Hear no evil]]

and Yanappu its mouth is open...but is there sound coming out?

[[File:515Panpour.png|right|thumb|Speak no evil]]

http://www.aspencountry.com/assets/product_images/product_lib/31000-31999/31655.jpg

doesnt it look similar to the {{wp|Three wise monkeys}}? maybe it could be added to the origins?

sorry for bothering if not..[[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 15:37, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
:That's an interesting thought.--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 18:07, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
::Thank you, I looked at them and I knew it reminded me of somethingalso If you look their tails resemble card symbols Yanappu (heart) Baoppu (Ace) and Hiyappu (spade) but that's not really trivia [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 18:28, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

could it be that the monkeys tail indicates their number look baoppu has one end yanappu has two ends and hiyappu has three like a clover isn't it?[[User:Badwolf1234|Badwolf1234]] 04:07, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

== name origin? ==

When I first saw Hiyappu (ヒヤップ) I mistakenly read its name as Hiyassu (I feel embarrassed, lol), so my first thought of the origin of the name was the verb 冷やす (hiyasu) ''to cool, to chill''. It seems I wasn't far off, because with a quick little dictionary research I found 冷や (hiya) ''cool water/{{wp|sake}}''. I assume at this point 冷や + ''ape'' (as speculated in the Yanappu article) is a good guess, so I'll add it to the article.
:Um my Appu = ape line wasn't really true...it would be eipu if it was ape...[[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 23:35, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
::Yeah, that does make sense... But it's the best we have for now, lol.
::Oops, I see I forgot to sign my previous post. [[User:BlackySully|㊰'''ブラッキーシュリー''']] 00:05, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

== How is this not a plausible origin? ==

''"Its shut eyes may also represent {{wp|envy}}, one of the {{wp|cardinal sins}}. In part two of {{wp|Dante|Dante's}} ''{{wp|Divine Comedy}}'', ''{{wp|Purgatorio}}'', the punishment for being envious was to have your eyes sewn shut with wire."''

Not only are its eyes are slit and closed it is also coincidentally is based off of the see-no-evil monkey, which is similar to the greed punishment. - [[User:050294|050294]] 05:51, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
:It seems plausible enough to me. It's rare that Pokémon is based on only a single origin. "the punishment for the envious is to have their eyes sewn shut with wire because they have gained sinful pleasure from seeing others brought low." sounds basically the same as "see no evil", so I say it's worth keeping up. [[Typhlosion|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon|★]] [[User_talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]] 06:16, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

== Move to Panpour ==

[http://files.droplr.com/files/19310907/HMun.Photo12291808_1.jpg We have more confirmation.]--'''[[User:Immewnity|''immewnity'']][[User talk:Immewnity|the]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|mew]]''' 01:38, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
:As I said on the talk page for what will soon be the Pansear article, agreed 100%. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 03:48, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

== Ahuizotl ==

Can someone edit the wikipedia link for Ahuizotl to link to Ahuizotl (creature)? The default for that goes to a king named after the creature, not the creature itself. [[User:Phantomjunkie|Phantom]]♫[[User talk:Phantomjunkie|Junkie]] 16:28, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

==Notable Trivia?==
Panpour and its evolution are the only Pokemon to learn Scald via level-up, but ironically Panpour's Chinese name 冷水猴 means "''Cold Water'' Monkey"! Does this seem like a notable trivia? Personally I find it pretty interesting...{{unsigned|KingKairos}}
:To be fair, its Japanese name also contains ''cool water'', so it was probably intentional. ----'''神智の[[User:神奇超龍|超龍]]「'''[[User talk:神奇超龍|對話]]'''」''' 08:47, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

==Should add this==
In [[BW005|Triple Leaders, Triple Threats!]] Ash's Pokedex said that Panpour lived in the forest in acient times then it's body changed so it can live near water. [[User:Grabbergirl|Pokemon FTW!!!!]] ([[User talk:Grabbergirl|talk]]) 20:43, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
:It's already in ''In the anime'' section. Also, your signature must resemble your username in some way so please change it.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 21:02, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

==Panpour and Simipour actually have white eyes==
While evolving my Panpour in X today, I watched both my Panpour and Simipour blink. Noticing something weird, I went to my Pokedex and looked at their animation more.

Their eyes are not closed. The top half of their "eyes" are actually their eyelid, and, in X and Y, is a slightly different color than their eyes. When they blink, their off-white eyelids cover their white eyes and open to reveal the same white eyes.

As it is listed as "black" in the entry, I will correct this.

-[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] ([[User talk:Mackinz|talk]]) 04:08, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
:I think you're mistaken. I checked my game as well as Pokedex 3D Pro. Both of its eyelids are exactly the same color. Yes, they move, but that's so it can express its emotions. They are closed. All Pansage, Simisage, Pansear, and Simisear all close their eyes the same way Panpour and Simipour do (albeit slightly different looking). [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 05:09, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
::In Pokedex 3D Pro, maybe (I can't say), but in my X it is apparent (to me) that the eyelid (top half) is a slightly different color than the eye (bottom half). It's off-white (the top is) so it may be hard to notice at first. Keep looking.

::The eyes are NOT closed... that's why it observably blinks. :|
::
It would actually tie in more to Panpour/Simipour and the other monkey's motif of the three wise monkeys if so. Whitened eyes are a symbol of blindness, tying into the "See no evil" thing even better.

::I'll test in Pokemon-Amie in a bit to see if this changes. -[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] ([[User talk:Mackinz|talk]]) 07:40, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

Talk:Panpour (Pokémon)

2013-11-29T07:40:47Z

Mackinz: /* Panpour and Simipour actually have white eyes */

== Sanzaru ==

Yes I know this is speculative but I kinda thought of this

look at Hiyappu and how it has its eyes closed

[[File:511Pansage.png|right|thumb|See no evil]]

now look at Baoppu and its pose..it looks like it wants you to speak up

[[File:513Pansear.png|right|thumb|Hear no evil]]

and Yanappu its mouth is open...but is there sound coming out?

[[File:515Panpour.png|right|thumb|Speak no evil]]

http://www.aspencountry.com/assets/product_images/product_lib/31000-31999/31655.jpg

doesnt it look similar to the {{wp|Three wise monkeys}}? maybe it could be added to the origins?

sorry for bothering if not..[[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 15:37, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
:That's an interesting thought.--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 18:07, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
::Thank you, I looked at them and I knew it reminded me of somethingalso If you look their tails resemble card symbols Yanappu (heart) Baoppu (Ace) and Hiyappu (spade) but that's not really trivia [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 18:28, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

could it be that the monkeys tail indicates their number look baoppu has one end yanappu has two ends and hiyappu has three like a clover isn't it?[[User:Badwolf1234|Badwolf1234]] 04:07, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

== name origin? ==

When I first saw Hiyappu (ヒヤップ) I mistakenly read its name as Hiyassu (I feel embarrassed, lol), so my first thought of the origin of the name was the verb 冷やす (hiyasu) ''to cool, to chill''. It seems I wasn't far off, because with a quick little dictionary research I found 冷や (hiya) ''cool water/{{wp|sake}}''. I assume at this point 冷や + ''ape'' (as speculated in the Yanappu article) is a good guess, so I'll add it to the article.
:Um my Appu = ape line wasn't really true...it would be eipu if it was ape...[[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 23:35, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
::Yeah, that does make sense... But it's the best we have for now, lol.
::Oops, I see I forgot to sign my previous post. [[User:BlackySully|㊰'''ブラッキーシュリー''']] 00:05, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

== How is this not a plausible origin? ==

''"Its shut eyes may also represent {{wp|envy}}, one of the {{wp|cardinal sins}}. In part two of {{wp|Dante|Dante's}} ''{{wp|Divine Comedy}}'', ''{{wp|Purgatorio}}'', the punishment for being envious was to have your eyes sewn shut with wire."''

Not only are its eyes are slit and closed it is also coincidentally is based off of the see-no-evil monkey, which is similar to the greed punishment. - [[User:050294|050294]] 05:51, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
:It seems plausible enough to me. It's rare that Pokémon is based on only a single origin. "the punishment for the envious is to have their eyes sewn shut with wire because they have gained sinful pleasure from seeing others brought low." sounds basically the same as "see no evil", so I say it's worth keeping up. [[Typhlosion|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon|★]] [[User_talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]] 06:16, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

== Move to Panpour ==

[http://files.droplr.com/files/19310907/HMun.Photo12291808_1.jpg We have more confirmation.]--'''[[User:Immewnity|''immewnity'']][[User talk:Immewnity|the]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|mew]]''' 01:38, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
:As I said on the talk page for what will soon be the Pansear article, agreed 100%. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 03:48, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

== Ahuizotl ==

Can someone edit the wikipedia link for Ahuizotl to link to Ahuizotl (creature)? The default for that goes to a king named after the creature, not the creature itself. [[User:Phantomjunkie|Phantom]]♫[[User talk:Phantomjunkie|Junkie]] 16:28, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

==Notable Trivia?==
Panpour and its evolution are the only Pokemon to learn Scald via level-up, but ironically Panpour's Chinese name 冷水猴 means "''Cold Water'' Monkey"! Does this seem like a notable trivia? Personally I find it pretty interesting...{{unsigned|KingKairos}}
:To be fair, its Japanese name also contains ''cool water'', so it was probably intentional. ----'''神智の[[User:神奇超龍|超龍]]「'''[[User talk:神奇超龍|對話]]'''」''' 08:47, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

==Should add this==
In [[BW005|Triple Leaders, Triple Threats!]] Ash's Pokedex said that Panpour lived in the forest in acient times then it's body changed so it can live near water. [[User:Grabbergirl|Pokemon FTW!!!!]] ([[User talk:Grabbergirl|talk]]) 20:43, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
:It's already in ''In the anime'' section. Also, your signature must resemble your username in some way so please change it.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 21:02, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

==Panpour and Simipour actually have white eyes==
While evolving my Panpour in X today, I watched both my Panpour and Simipour blink. Noticing something weird, I went to my Pokedex and looked at their animation more.

Their eyes are not closed. The top half of their "eyes" are actually their eyelid, and, in X and Y, is a slightly different color than their eyes. When they blink, their off-white eyelids cover their white eyes and open to reveal the same white eyes.

As it is listed as "black" in the entry, I will correct this.

-[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] ([[User talk:Mackinz|talk]]) 04:08, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
:I think you're mistaken. I checked my game as well as Pokedex 3D Pro. Both of its eyelids are exactly the same color. Yes, they move, but that's so it can express its emotions. They are closed. All Pansage, Simisage, Pansear, and Simisear all close their eyes the same way Panpour and Simipour do (albeit slightly different looking). [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 05:09, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
::In Pokedex 3D Pro, maybe (I can't say), but in my X it is apparent (to me) that the eyelid (top half) is a slightly different color than the eye (bottom half). It's off-white (the top is) so it may be hard to notice at first. Keep looking.

The eyes are NOT closed... that's why it observably blinks. :|

It would actually tie in more to Panpour/Simipour and the other monkey's motif of the three wise monkeys if he's blind. Whitened eyes are a symbol of blindness, tying into the "See no evil" thing even better.

I'll test in Pokemon-Amie in a bit to see if this changes.
-[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] ([[User talk:Mackinz|talk]]) 07:40, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

Simipour (Pokémon)

2013-11-29T07:33:07Z

Mackinz: Undo revision 2027234 by Ataro (talk) Once again, you're wrong to undo my edit. Look at Panpour's Talk page. Eyes are white and not closed.

{{PokémonPrevNext | type=water | prevnum=515 | nextnum=517 | prev=Panpour | next=Munna }}
{{Pokémon Infobox|
name=Simipour |
jname=ヒヤッキー|
jtranslit=Hiyakkī |
tmname=Hiyakkie |
species=Geyser|
ndex=516 |
udex=022 |
u2dex=042 |
karea=Central |
kdex=034 |
typebox=1 |
type1=Water |
height-ftin=3'03" |
height-m=1.0 |
weight-lbs=63.9 |
weight-kg=29.0 |
abilityn=d |
ability1=Gluttony |
abilityd=Torrent |
egggroupn=1 |
egggroup1=Field|
eggcycles=21|
expyield=174 |
lv100exp=1,000,000|
gendercode=31|
color=Blue|
catchrate=75|
evtotal=2|
evsp=2|
body=06 |
pokefordex=simipour |
generation=5 |
friendship=70|
}}
'''Simipour''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''ヒヤッキー''' ''Hiyakkie'') is a {{type|Water}} Pokémon.

It [[Evolution|evolve]]s from {{p|Panpour}} when exposed to a {{evostone|Water Stone}}.

==Biology==
Simipour is a simian Pokémon that is primarily blue. Its ears are broad with light blue insides, and it has oval eyes and a small black nose. There are several tufts of fur on its head, which resemble {{wp|dreadlocks}}. These tufts can store water, which it collects with its tail. Simipour has a white marking around its neck that resembles a ruff, and a cream-colored face, hands, arms, legs, and feet. Its hands have five fingers, and its feet have three toes. Its tail is tipped with blue plume, resembling a spout of water. This tail can shoot powerful, pressurized blasts of water. Simipour prefers to live where there is clean water.

==In the anime==
[[File:Betty Simipour.png|thumb|left|250px|Simipour in the anime]]
===Major appearances===
A Simipour under the ownership of [[Betty]] appeared in ''[[BW071|Search for the Clubultimate!]]'' and ''[[BW072|A Clubsplosion of Excitement!]]''.

===Minor appearances===

===Pokédex entries===
{{Animedexheader|Unova}}
{{Animedexbody|BW072|Simipour|Ash's Pokédex|Simipour, the Geyser Pokémon and the evolved form of Panpour. Simipour can demolish a concrete wall with the pressurized water it shoots from its tail.}}
{{Animedexfooter/Pokémon|''Best Wishes''|Unova}}

==In the manga==
[[File:Cress Simipour Adventures.png|thumb|115px|Simipour in Pokémon Adventures]]
===In the Pokémon Adventures manga===
In [[Pokémon Adventures]], [[Cress]]'s Panpour evolves into Simipour by being exposed to a {{evostone|Water Stone}} during the brothers' fight with the [[Shadow Triad]].

==In the TCG==
{{main|Simipour (TCG)}}

==Game data==
===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex
|type=water
|gen=5
|blackdex=The tuft on its head holds water. When the level runs low, it replenishes the tuft by siphoning up water with its tail.
|whitedex=The high-pressure water expelled from its tail is so powerful, it can destroy a concrete wall.
|b2w2dex= It prefers places with clean water. When its tuft runs low, it replenishes it by siphoning up water with its tail.
|xdex=The high-pressure water expelled from its tail is so powerful, it can destroy a concrete wall.
|ydex=It prefers places with clean water. When its tuft runs low, it replenishes it by siphoning up water with its tail.
}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability|
type=water |
gen=5 |
bwarea=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Panpour}} |
b2w2area=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Panpour}} |
xyarea=Evolve [[Panpour]] |
}}

====In side games====
{{SidegameAvail
|type=water
|rumble2=Beach: [[Echo Valley]], [[World Axle - B1F]]
|mdgti=[[Glacier Palace - Eastern Spire]], [[Glacier Palace - Western Spire]], [[Dreamy Island]], [[Cape at the Edge]], Magnagate dungeons, [[Silent Tundra]], [[Moonlit Forest]] (Golden Chamber)
|conquest=[[Evolution|Evolve]] {{p|Panpour}}
}}

===Stats===

====Base stats====
{{BaseStats|
type=Water|
HP=75|
Attack=98|
Defense=63|
SpAtk=98|
SpDef=63|
Speed=101}}

===Type effectiveness===
{{TypeEffectiveness|
type1=water|
Normal= 100 |
Flying= 100 |
Fighting=100 |
Ground= 100 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 100 |
Poison= 100 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 50 |

Fire= 50 |
Water= 50 |
Grass= 200 |
Electric=200 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 50 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 |
Fairy= 100 }}

===Learnset===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{learnlist/levelh/6|Simipour|Water|Water|5}}
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Leer|Normal|Status|—|100|30}}
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Lick|Ghost|Physical|20|100|30}}
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Fury Swipes|Normal|Physical|18|80|15}}
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Scald|Water|Special|80|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/levelf/6|Simipour|Water|Water|5}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{learnlist/tmh|Simipour|Water|Water|5|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM01|Hone Claws|Dark|Status|—|—|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM06|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|90|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM07|Hail|Ice|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM10|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|—|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM12|Taunt|Dark|Status|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM13|Ice Beam|Ice|Special|95|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM14|Blizzard|Ice|Special|120|70|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM15|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM17|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM18|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM21|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM27|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM28|Dig|Ground|Physical|80|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM31|Brick Break|Fighting|Physical|75|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM32|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM39|Rock Tomb|Rock|Physical|50|80|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM41|Torment|Dark|Status|—|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM42|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM44|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM45|Attract|Normal|Status|—|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM46|Thief|Dark|Physical|40|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM47|Low Sweep|Fighting|Physical|60|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM48|Round|Normal|Special|60|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM52|Focus Blast|Fighting|Special|120|70|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM55|Scald|Water|Special|80|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM56|Fling|Dark|Physical|—|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM62|Acrobatics|Flying|Physical|55|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM65|Shadow Claw|Ghost|Physical|70|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM66|Payback|Dark|Physical|50|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM68|Giga Impact|Normal|Physical|150|90|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM80|Rock Slide|Rock|Physical|75|90|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM83|Work Up|Normal|Status|—|—|30}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM86|Grass Knot|Grass|Special|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM87|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM90|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM94|Rock Smash|Fighting|Physical|40|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|HM01|Cut|Normal|Physical|50|95|30}}
{{learnlist/tm5|HM03|Surf|Water|Special|95|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|HM05|Waterfall|Water|Physical|80|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|HM06|Dive|Water|Physical|80|100|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/tmf|Simipour|Water|Water|5|5}}

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
{{learnlist/breedh|Simipour|Water|Water|5|5}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|086|Seel}}{{MSP|087|Dewgong}}{{MSP|134|Vaporeon}}|Aqua Ring|Water|Status|—|—|20||}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|086|Seel}}{{MSP|087|Dewgong}}{{MSP|418|Buizel}}{{MSP|419|Floatzel}}{{MSP|501|Oshawott}}{{MSP|502|Dewott}} {{MSP|503|Samurott}}|Aqua Tail|Water|Physical|90|90|10||||'''}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|050|Diglett}}{{MSP|051|Dugtrio}}{{MSP|190|Aipom}}{{MSP|424|Ambipom}}{{MSP|203|Girafarig}}{{MSP|234|Stantler}} {{MSP|293|Whismur}}{{MSP|294|Loudred}}{{MSP|295|Exploud}}{{MSP|303|Mawile}}{{MSP|320|Wailmer}}{{MSP|321|Wailord}} {{MSP|352|Kecleon}}|Astonish|Ghost|Physical|30|100|15||}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|056|Mankey}}{{MSP|216|Teddiursa}}{{MSP|217|Ursaring}}{{MSP|263|Zigzagoon}}{{MSP|264|Linoone}}{{MSP|287|Slakoth}} {{MSP|289|Slaking}}{{MSP|300|Skitty}}|Covet|Normal|Physical|60|100|40||}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|056|Mankey}}{{MSP|057|Primeape}}{{MSP|505|Watchog}}{{MSP|559|Scraggy}}{{MSP|560|Scrafty}}|Low Kick|Fighting|Physical|—|100|20||}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|054|Psyduck}}{{MSP|055|Golduck}}{{MSP|134|Vaporeon}}{{MSP|320|Wailmer}}{{MSP|321|Wailord}}{{MSP|393|Piplup}} {{MSP|394|Prinplup}}{{MSP|395|Empoleon}}{{MSP|501|Oshawott}}{{MSP|502|Dewott}}{{MSP|503|Samurott}}|Hydro Pump|Water|Special|120|80|5||||'''}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|194|Wooper}}{{MSP|195|Quagsire}}{{MSP|220|Swinub}}{{MSP|221|Piloswine}}{{MSP|473|Mamoswine}}{{MSP|263|Zigzagoon}} {{MSP|264|Linoone}}{{MSP|529|Drilbur}}{{MSP|530|Excadrill}}|Mud Sport|Ground|Status|—|—|15||}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|038|Ninetales}}{{MSP|052|Meowth}}{{MSP|053|Persian}}{{MSP|190|Aipom}}{{MSP|424|Ambipom}}{{MSP|228|Houndour}} {{MSP|229|Houndoom}}{{MSP|275|Shiftry}}{{MSP|390|Chimchar}}{{MSP|461|Weavile}}{{MSP|509|Purrloin}}{{MSP|510|Liepard}} {{MSP|570|Zorua}}{{MSP|571|Zoroark}}|Nasty Plot|Dark|Status|—|100|20||}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|234|Stantler}}|Role Play|Psychic|Status|—|—|10||}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|190|Aipom}}{{MSP|424|Ambipom}}{{MSP|572|Minccino}}{{MSP|573|Cinccino}}|Tickle|Normal|Status|—|100|20||}}
{{learnlist/breedf|Simipour|Water|Water|5|5}}

====By [[Move Tutor|tutoring]]====
{{learnlist/tutorh|Simipour|water|water|5|5}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Aqua Tail|Water|Physical|90|90|10||'''|no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Covet|Normal|Physical|60|100|40|||no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Endeavor|Normal|Physical|—|100|5|||no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Gunk Shot|Poison|Physical|120|70|5|||no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Helping Hand|Normal|Status|—|—|10|||no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Ice Punch|Ice|Physical|75|100|15|||no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Icy Wind|Ice|Special|55|95|15|||no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Iron Tail|Steel|Physical|100|75|15|||no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Knock Off|Dark|Physical|20|100|20|||no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Low Kick|Fighting|Physical|—|100|20|||no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Recycle|Normal|Status|—|—|10|||no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Role Play|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|||no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10|||no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Snore|Normal|Special|40|100|15|||no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Superpower|Fighting|Physical|120|100|5|||no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Uproar|Normal|Special|90|100|10|||no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutorf|Simipour|water|water|5|5}}

====By a prior [[evolution]]====
{{learnlist/prevoh|Simipour|water|water|5|5}}
{{Learnlist/prevo5|515|Panpour|||||Scratch|Normal|Physical|40|100|35}}
{{Learnlist/prevo5|515|Panpour|||||Water Gun|Water|Special|40|100|25|'''}}
{{Learnlist/prevo5|515|Panpour|||||Water Sport|Water|Status|—|—|15}}
{{Learnlist/prevo5|515|Panpour|||||Bite|Dark|Physical|60|100|25}}
{{Learnlist/prevo5|515|Panpour|||||Brine|Water|Special|65|100|10|'''}}
{{Learnlist/prevo5|515|Panpour|||||Recycle|Normal|Status|—|—|10||BW}}
{{Learnlist/prevo5|515|Panpour|||||Natural Gift|Normal|Physical|—|100|15}}
{{Learnlist/prevo5|515|Panpour|||||Crunch|Dark|Physical|80|100|15}}
{{learnlist/prevof|Simipour|water|water|5|5}}

===Side game data===
{{Sidegame|
type=Water |
ndex=516 |
rumble2=yes|
rumble2attack=3|
rumble2defense=2|
rumble2speed=4|
Conquest=yes |
ConquestAtk=3 |
ConquestSpd=4 |
ConquestDef=2 |
ConquestHP=3 |
ConquestRange=3 |
ConquestMove={{m|Brine}} |
ConquestAbility1={{DL|List of Abilities in Pokémon Conquest|Melee}} |
ConquestAbility2={{DL|List of Abilities in Pokémon Conquest|Instinct}} |
ConquestAbility3={{DL|List of Abilities in Pokémon Conquest|Aqua Boost}} |
ConquestEvo=Evolves from {{p|Panpour}} after battling while its [[Warrior]] is equipped with a {{evostone|Water Stone}} |
ConquestLink={{DL|List of Pokémon Conquest characters|Takayori}} and {{DL|List of Pokémon Conquest characters|Yoshitaka}}
}}

===Evolution===
{{evobox-2
|pictype=art
|type1=Water
|no1=515
|name1=Panpour
|type1-1=Water
|evo1={{bag|Water Stone}} {{color2|000|Evolutionary stone#Water Stone|Water Stone}}
|no2=516
|name2=Simipour
|type1-2=Water}}

===Sprites===
{{Sprite |
type=water |
gen=5 |
gender=none |
name=Simipour |
ndex=516 |
}}

==Trivia==
[[File:516Simipour old.png|thumb|right|Simipour's old artwork]]
* Simipour represents {{wp|February}} in the [[Unova]] [[horoscope]].
* Simipour's Sugimori art previously showed its entire tail to be completely blue instead of tan with a blue tip.

===Origin===
Simipour is based on a {{wp|monkey}} and a {{wp|fountain}}; because of this, it may have been inspired by the water dwelling, monkey-like creature {{wp|Ahuizotl (creature)|Ahuizotl}} or may be a visual pun on {{wp|Sea-Monkeys}}. The ability to store water in its hair may also reference the {{wp|Kappa (folklore)|Kappa}}, a Japanese reptilian {{wp|yōkai}} that stores water on a dish of sorts on its head. Its chest fur resembles that of a {{wp|volcano}} and may have possibly been based on {{wp|geyser}}s, {{wp|subaqueous volcano}}es, {{wp|cryovolcano}}es or the Guatemalan {{wp|Volcán de Agua}}. Its chest fur may otherwise possibly represent the froth of a gushing {{wp|waterfall}}, with its blue locks symbolizing the waterfall.
It, along with its two contemporaries, seem to inspired by the {{wp|three wise monkeys}} motif; with its eyes seemingly closed, Simipour represents "see no evil".

====Name origin====
Simipour is a combination of ''{{wp|simian}}'' and ''pour''.

Hiyakkie may be a combination of 冷や ''hiya'' (cool water) and ''{{wp|monkey}}''. It may also involve けっき ''kekki'' (vigor).

==In other languages==
{{Other languages|type=water|type2=water
|ja=ヒヤッキー ''Hiyakkie''|jameaning=From {{tt|冷や ''hiya''|cool water}}, and ''monkey''. May also involve {{tt|けっき ''kekki''|vigor}}.
|de=Sodachita|demeaning=From ''Soda'' and ''{{wp|Cheeta}}''
|fr=Flotoutan|frmeaning=From {{tt|''flotte''|float}} and {{tt|''orang-outan''|orangutan}}
|es=Simipour|esmeaning=Same as English name
|it=Simipour|itmeaning=Same as English name
|ko=앗차키 ''Atchaki''|komeaning=From {{tt|앗 차가워 ''at chagaweo''|Oh, it is cold!}} and ''monkey''
|zh_cmn=冷水猿 ''Lěngshuǐyuán''|zh_cmnmeaning=From {{tt|冷水 ''lěngshuǐ''|cold water}} and {{tt|猿 ''yuán''|ape}}.
}}
 



==External links==
{{PokémonPrevNextFoot | type=water | prevnum=515 | nextnum=517 | prev=Panpour | next=Munna }}
{{-}}
{{Project Pokédex notice}}



[[it:Simipour]]

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[[es:Simipour]]
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[[ja:ヒヤッキー]]
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[[zh:冷水猿]]

Panpour (Pokémon)

2013-11-29T07:31:02Z

Mackinz: Undo revision 2027233 by Ataro (talk) No, you're not right. Look at the Talk page, and observe their XY eye animations (easier in Pokedex)

{{PokémonPrevNext | type=water | prevnum=514 | nextnum=516 | prev=Simisear | next=Simipour }}
{{Pokémon Infobox|
name=Panpour |
jname=ヒヤップ |
tmname=Hiyappu |
species=Spray |
ndex=515 |
udex=021 |
u2dex=041 |
karea=Central |
kdex=033 |
typebox=1 |
type1=Water |
height-ftin=2'00" |
height-m=0.6 |
weight-lbs=29.8 |
weight-kg=13.5 |
abilityn=d |
ability1=Gluttony |
abilityd=Torrent |
egggroupn=1 |
egggroup1=Field|
eggcycles=21|
expyield=63 |
lv100exp=1,000,000|
gendercode=31|
color=Blue|
catchrate=190|
evtotal=1|
evsp=1|
body=06 |
pokefordex=panpour |
generation=5 |
friendship=70 |
}}
'''Panpour''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''ヒヤップ''' ''Hiyappu'') is a {{type|Water}} Pokémon.

It [[Evolution|evolve]]s into {{p|Simipour}} when exposed to a {{evostone|Water Stone}}.

Panpour is one of three [[elemental monkeys]]. The other two are the {{type|Grass}} {{p|Pansage}} and the {{type|Fire}} {{p|Pansear}}.

==Biology==
Panpour is a simian, blue-and-cream Pokémon. It has oval, white eyes, large ears with light blue insides, and a tiny, black nose. There is a puffy, wave-like crest on top of its head. Nutrient rich water is stored in this crest. It also possesses a blue, frilled-like feature on its neck and upper shoulders. Its muzzle, lower body, and skinny forelimbs are cream-colored, and its hands seem to have no fingers, aside from a thumb. Its small feet both have three toes each. Its long tail has a clover-shaped tip. Panpour can keep itself damp or water plants by spraying water from its tail. It is mostly found near water sources.

==In the anime==
[[File:Cress Panpour.png|thumb|250px|left|Panpour in the anime]]
===Major appearances===
A Panpour appeared in ''[[BW005|Triple Leaders, Team Threats!]]'' under the ownership of [[Cress]], along with {{p|Pansear}} and {{TP|Cilan|Pansage}}, owned by [[Chili]] and {{an|Cilan}}, respectively. It battled against [[Ash's Pikachu]] and won.

===Minor appearances===

Panpour was seen in {{an|Iris}}'s flashback in ''[[BW033|Iris and Excadrill Against the Dragon Buster!]]''. It was one of her many Pokémon friends as a little girl back in the [[Village of Dragons]].

A Panpour made a cameo appearance in ''[[BW069|Climbing the Tower of Success!]]''.

A Panpour briefly appeared in the [[Elder]]'s flashback in ''[[BW100|A Village Homecoming!]]''.

A Panpour appeared in ''[[XY001|Kalos, Where Dreams and Adventures Begin!]]''.

A Panpour appeared in [[XY003]].

===Pokédex entries===
{{Animedexheader|Unova}}
{{Animedexbody|BW005|Panpour|Ash's Pokédex|Panpour, the Spray Pokémon. Panpour lived in forests long ago, but developed a body that makes it easy to live near water. It can store water in the tufts on its head.}}
{{Animedexfooter/Pokémon|''Best Wishes''|Unova}}

==In the manga==
[[File:Monta Panpour.png|thumb|Panpour in Pokémon Master Black & White]]
===In the Pocket Monsters BW manga===
In the {{OBP|Pocket Monsters BW|Kosaku Anakubo}} manga, [[Cress]] uses a Panpour against [[Red's Clefairy]] in ''[[PMBW02|Battle at the Handsome Restaurant!?]]'' when he tries to instigate a fight between Cress and his brothers [[Cilan]] and [[Chili]]. The three brothers use their Pokémon against Clefairy, however, their group attack backfires when Clefairy uses the effects of {{p|Pansear}}, Panpour and {{p|Pansage}}'s attacks to make green tea.

===In the Pokémon Master Black & White manga===
A Panpour was shown in [[Monta]]'s possession in [[PBW2]]. He used it against [[Cheren]] in a triple battle.

===In the Pokémon Adventures manga===
Panpour made its debut in [[Pokémon Adventures]] as a short cameo in ''[[PS463|A Nickname for Tepig]]'', alongside [[Cress]]. It later appeared in ''[[PS469|Welcome To Striaton City!!]]'' where it prepared tea for {{adv|Black}}, {{adv|Cheren}}, and {{adv|Bianca}} along side its fellow [[elemental monkeys]]. In ''[[PS470|Their First Gym Battle]]'' it battled against [[Tep]].

==In the TCG==
{{main|Panpour (TCG)}}

==Game data==
===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex
|type=water
|gen=5
|blackdex=The water stored inside the tuft on its head is full of nutrients. Plants that receive its water grow large.
|whitedex=It does not thrive in dry environments. It keeps itself damp by shooting water stored in its head tuft from its tail.
|b2w2dex=The water stored inside the tuft on its head is full of nutrients. It waters plants with it using its tail.
|xdex=The water stored inside the tuft on its head is full of nutrients. It waters plants with it using its tail.
|ydex=The water stored inside the tuft on its head is full of nutrients. Plants that receive its water grow large.
}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability|
type=water |
gen=5 |
bwrarity=Rare One |
bwarea={{DL|Phenomenon|Rustling grass}} in [[Pinwheel Forest]] (inner) and [[Lostlorn Forest]] {{pkmn2|Gift}} at [[Dreamyard]] (if [[starter Pokémon]] was {{p|Snivy}}) |
b2w2rarity=Rare |
b2w2area=[[Pinwheel Forest]], [[Lostlorn Forest]]|
xyarea=[[Santalune Forest]] |
xyrarity=Rare |}}

====In side games====
{{SidegameAvail
|type=water
|rumble2=Beach: [[Seabreeze Trail]], [[Echo Valley]]
|pokepark2=[[Cove Area]]
|mdgti=[[Tempting Path]], [[Great Glacier]], [[Glacial Underpass]], [[Redland Reaches]], [[Eastern Savanna]], Magnagate dungeons, [[Dreamy Island]], [[Slumbering Cave]], [[Silent Tundra]], [[Moonlit Forest]] (Golden Chamber), [[Path of No Return]]
|conquest=[[Fontaine]] (special)
}}

====Pokémon Global Link promotions====
{{eventAvail/h|type=water}}
{{eventAvail|{{gameabbrev3|B2W2}}|Global Link Panpour|Japanese|PGL|10|November 15, 2012 to January 10, 2013|link=List of Pokémon Global Link promotions/Pokémon#Panpour}}
|}

===Held items===
{{HeldItems
|type=water
|bw1=Oran Berry|bw1type=Berry|bw1rar=50
|bw2=Rindo Berry|bw2type=Berry|bw2rar=5
|b2w21=Oran Berry|b2w21type=Berry|b2w21rar=50
|b2w22=Rindo Berry|b2w22type=Berry|b2w22rar=5
}}

===Stats===

====Base stats====
{{BaseStats|
type=Water|
type2=Water|
HP=50|
Attack=53|
Defense=48|
SpAtk=53|
SpDef=48|
Speed=64}}

===Type effectiveness===
{{TypeEffectiveness|
type1=water|
Normal= 100 |
Flying= 100 |
Fighting=100 |
Ground= 100 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 100 |
Poison= 100 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 50 |

Fire= 50 |
Water= 50 |
Grass= 200 |
Electric=200 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 50 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 |
Fairy= 100 }}

===Learnset===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{learnlist/levelh/6|Panpour|Water|Water|5}}
{{learnlist/level5|?|Scratch|Normal|Physical|40|100|35}}
{{learnlist/level5|?|Play Nice|Normal|Status|—|—|20}}
{{learnlist/level5|?|Leer|Normal|Status|—|100|30}}
{{learnlist/level5|7|Lick|Ghost|Physical|20|100|30}}
{{learnlist/level5|10|Water Gun|Water|Special|40|100|25||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|13|Fury Swipes|Normal|Physical|18|80|15}}
{{learnlist/level5|16|Water Sport|Water|Status|—|—|15}}
{{learnlist/level5|19|Bite|Dark|Physical|60|100|25}}

{{learnlist/levelf/6|Panpour|Water|Water|5}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{learnlist/tmh|Panpour|Water|Water|5|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM01|Hone Claws|Dark|Status|—|—|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM06|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|90|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM07|Hail|Ice|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM10|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|—|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM12|Taunt|Dark|Status|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM13|Ice Beam|Ice|Special|95|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM14|Blizzard|Ice|Special|120|70|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM17|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM18|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM21|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM27|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM28|Dig|Ground|Physical|80|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM32|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM39|Rock Tomb|Rock|Physical|50|80|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM41|Torment|Dark|Status|—|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM42|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM44|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM45|Attract|Normal|Status|—|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM46|Thief|Dark|Physical|40|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM47|Low Sweep|Fighting|Physical|60|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM48|Round|Normal|Special|60|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM55|Scald|Water|Special|80|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM56|Fling|Dark|Physical|—|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM62|Acrobatics|Flying|Physical|55|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM65|Shadow Claw|Ghost|Physical|70|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM66|Payback|Dark|Physical|50|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM83|Work Up|Normal|Status|—|—|30}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM86|Grass Knot|Grass|Special|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM87|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM90|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM94|Rock Smash|Fighting|Physical|40|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|HM01|Cut|Normal|Physical|50|95|30}}
{{learnlist/tm5|HM03|Surf|Water|Special|95|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|HM05|Waterfall|Water|Physical|80|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|HM06|Dive|Water|Physical|80|100|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/tmf|Panpour|Water|Water|5|5}}

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
{{learnlist/breedh|Panpour|Water|Water|5|5}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|086|Seel}}{{MSP|087|Dewgong}}{{MSP|134|Vaporeon}}|Aqua Ring|Water|Status|—|—|20||}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|086|Seel}}{{MSP|087|Dewgong}}{{MSP|418|Buizel}}{{MSP|419|Floatzel}}{{MSP|501|Oshawott}}{{MSP|502|Dewott}} {{MSP|503|Samurott}}|Aqua Tail|Water|Physical|90|90|10||||'''}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|050|Diglett}}{{MSP|051|Dugtrio}}{{MSP|190|Aipom}}{{MSP|424|Ambipom}}{{MSP|203|Girafarig}}{{MSP|234|Stantler}} {{MSP|293|Whismur}}{{MSP|294|Loudred}}{{MSP|295|Exploud}}{{MSP|303|Mawile}}{{MSP|320|Wailmer}}{{MSP|321|Wailord}} {{MSP|352|Kecleon}}|Astonish|Ghost|Physical|30|100|15||}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|056|Mankey}}{{MSP|216|Teddiursa}}{{MSP|217|Ursaring}}{{MSP|263|Zigzagoon}}{{MSP|264|Linoone}}{{MSP|287|Slakoth}} {{MSP|289|Slaking}}{{MSP|300|Skitty}}|Covet|Normal|Physical|60|100|40||}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|056|Mankey}}{{MSP|057|Primeape}}{{MSP|505|Watchog}}{{MSP|559|Scraggy}}{{MSP|560|Scrafty}}|Low Kick|Fighting|Physical|—|100|20||}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|054|Psyduck}}{{MSP|055|Golduck}}{{MSP|134|Vaporeon}}{{MSP|320|Wailmer}}{{MSP|321|Wailord}}{{MSP|393|Piplup}} {{MSP|394|Prinplup}}{{MSP|395|Empoleon}}{{MSP|501|Oshawott}}{{MSP|502|Dewott}}{{MSP|503|Samurott}}|Hydro Pump|Water|Special|120|80|5||||'''}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|194|Wooper}}{{MSP|195|Quagsire}}{{MSP|220|Swinub}}{{MSP|221|Piloswine}}{{MSP|473|Mamoswine}}{{MSP|263|Zigzagoon}} {{MSP|264|Linoone}}{{MSP|529|Drilbur}}{{MSP|530|Excadrill}}|Mud Sport|Ground|Status|—|—|15||}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|038|Ninetales}}{{MSP|052|Meowth}}{{MSP|053|Persian}}{{MSP|190|Aipom}}{{MSP|424|Ambipom}}{{MSP|228|Houndour}} {{MSP|229|Houndoom}}{{MSP|275|Shiftry}}{{MSP|390|Chimchar}}{{MSP|461|Weavile}}{{MSP|509|Purrloin}}{{MSP|510|Liepard}} {{MSP|570|Zorua}}{{MSP|571|Zoroark}}|Nasty Plot|Dark|Status|—|100|20||}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|234|Stantler}}|Role Play|Psychic|Status|—|—|10||}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|190|Aipom}}{{MSP|424|Ambipom}}{{MSP|572|Minccino}}{{MSP|573|Cinccino}}|Tickle|Normal|Status|—|100|20||}}
{{learnlist/breedf|Panpour|Water|Water|5|5}}

====By [[Move Tutor|tutoring]]====
{{learnlist/tutorh|Panpour|water|water|5|5}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Aqua Tail|Water|Physical|90|90|10||'''|no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Covet|Normal|Physical|60|100|40|||no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Endeavor|Normal|Physical|—|100|5|||no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Gunk Shot|Poison|Physical|120|70|5|||no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Helping Hand|Normal|Status|—|—|10|||no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Ice Punch|Ice|Physical|75|100|15|||no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Icy Wind|Ice|Special|55|95|15|||no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Iron Tail|Steel|Physical|100|75|15|||no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Knock Off|Dark|Physical|20|100|20|||no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Low Kick|Fighting|Physical|—|100|20|||no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Recycle|Normal|Status|—|—|10|||no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Role Play|Psychic|Status|—|—|10|||no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Sleep Talk|Normal|Status|—|—|10|||no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Snore|Normal|Special|40|100|15|||no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutor5|Uproar|Normal|Special|90|100|10|||no|yes}}
{{learnlist/tutorf|Panpour|water|water|5|5}}

====By {{pkmn2|event}}s====
{{learnlist/eventh|Panpour|water|water|5|5}}
{{learnlist/event5|[[List of Pokémon Global Link promotions/Pokémon#Pansage|Global Link]]|Hydro Pump|Water|Special|120|80|5||'''|}}
{{learnlist/eventf|Panpour|water|water|5|5}}

===Side game data===
{{Sidegame|
type=Water |
ndex=515 |
rumble2=yes|
rumble2attack=1|
rumble2defense=2|
rumble2speed=3|
Pad2=He likes {{p|Pansage}} and {{p|Pansear}}. Since his eyes make him look like he's smiling, others tend to think he is calm, but he also has a different side. |
Park2strong=[[File:Pikachu icon.png|link=Pikachu (Pokémon)]][[File:Snivy icon.png|link=Snivy (Pokémon)]] |
Park2weak=[[File:Oshawott icon.png|link=Oshawott (Pokémon)]][[File:Tepig icon.png|link=Tepig (Pokémon)]] |
Conquest=yes |
ConquestAtk=1 |
ConquestSpd=3 |
ConquestDef=2 |
ConquestHP=2 |
ConquestRange=3 |
ConquestMove={{m|Water Gun}} |
ConquestAbility1={{DL|List of Abilities in Pokémon Conquest|Melee}} |
ConquestAbility2={{DL|List of Abilities in Pokémon Conquest|Mountaineer}} |
ConquestAbility3={{DL|List of Abilities in Pokémon Conquest|Dodge}} |
ConquestEvo=Evolves into {{p|Simipour}} after battling while its [[Warrior]] is equipped with a {{evostone|Water Stone}} |
ConquestLink={{DL|List of Pokémon Conquest characters|Takayori}} and {{DL|List of Pokémon Conquest characters|Yoshitaka}}
}}

===Evolution===
{{evobox-2
|pictype=art
|type1=Water
|no1=515
|name1=Panpour
|type1-1=Water
|evo1={{bag|Water Stone}} {{color2|000|Evolutionary stone#Water Stone|Water Stone}}
|no2=516
|name2=Simipour
|type1-2=Water}}

===Sprites===
{{Sprite |
type=water |
gen=5 |
gender=none |
name=Panpour |
ndex=515 |
}}

==Trivia==

===Origin===
Panpour is based on a {{wp|monkey}} and a {{wp|fountain}}. It may also be based on a {{wp|geyser}} or may be a visual pun on {{wp|Sea-Monkeys}}. It, along with its two contemporaries, seem to inspired by the {{wp|three wise monkeys}} motif; with its eyes closed, Panpour represents "see no evil".

====Name origin====
Panpour may be a combination of ''Pan'' (the genus of {{wp|Chimpanzee}}s) and ''pour''.

Hiyappu may be a combination of 冷や ''hiya'' (cool water) and ''{{wp|ape}}''.

==In other languages==
{{Other languages|type=water|type2=water
|ja=ヒヤップ ''Hiyappu''|jameaning=From {{tt|冷や ''hiya''|cool water}}, and ''ape''
|de=Sodamak|demeaning=From ''Soda'' and ''{{tt|Makak|macaque}}''
|fr=Flotajou|frmeaning=From {{tt|''flotte''|water (colloquial)}} and ''{{tt|sapajou|capuchin monkey}}''
|es=Panpour|esmeaning=Same as English name
|it=Panpour|itmeaning=Same as English name
|ko=앗차프 ''Atchapeu''|komeaning=From {{tt|앗 차가워 ''at chagaweo''|Oh, it is cold!}} and ''ape''
|zh_cmn=冷水猴 ''Lěng Shuǐ Hóu''|zh_cmnmeaning=From {{tt|冷水 ''lěngshuǐ''|cold water}} and {{tt|猴 ''hóu''|monkey}}.
}}
 



==External links==
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{{Project Pokédex notice}}

[[Category:Pokémon that evolve by evolutionary stone]]
[[Category:Pokémon that evolve using Water Stone]]

[[it:Panpour]]
[[pt:Panpour (pokémon)]]

[[de:Sodamak]]
[[es:Panpour]]
[[fr:Flotajou]]
[[ja:ヒヤップ]]
[[pl:Panpour]]
[[zh:冷水猴]]

Simipour (Pokémon)

2013-11-29T04:11:52Z

Mackinz: /* Origin */

Panpour (Pokémon)

2013-11-29T04:09:09Z

Mackinz: /* Biology */

Talk:Panpour (Pokémon)

2013-11-29T04:08:06Z

Mackinz: Panpour and Simisage actually have white eyes

Talk:Thick Fat (Ability)

2013-03-22T01:54:19Z

Mackinz: /* How much does Thick Fat reduce damage? */

Categories aren't showing for me at the bottom of the page. I tried to edit the page so they'd appear but I can't seem to. [[User:Kookamooka|Kookamooka]] 15:25, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
:They're showing up fine for me. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 15:51, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

== How much does Thick Fat reduce damage? ==

I find it weird that Bulbapedia does not have this information yet. The ability has been out for over ten years now...--[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] ([[User talk:Mackinz|talk]]) 01:39, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

Wait, I missed the "half"... Never mind.--[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] ([[User talk:Mackinz|talk]]) 01:54, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

Talk:Thick Fat (Ability)

2013-03-22T01:39:22Z

Mackinz: /* How much does Thick Fat reduce damage? */ new section

Talk:Maractus (Pokémon)

2012-12-10T16:20:24Z

Mackinz: /* Is this trivia worthy? */

==Rarity==
I'm not sure how to determine rarity, but I'm fairly certain this one is uncommon.--[[User:Shinbora|Shinbora]] 23:47, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

==Romanization==
I have mentioned this in edit summaries and on other talk pages before, but the correct Hepburn romanization is Maraka'''t'''chi, not Maraka'''c'''chi. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 14:29, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
:The official spelling is Maracacchi [http://ptcg.creatures.co.jp/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/BW1_C008_556MARACACCHI.jpg] --[[User:Nyoo|nYoo]] 16:05, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
::But that isn't an official site but a fan blog, and the blogger just named that card after its literal romanization, <tt>Ma ra ka cchi</tt>. [[List_of_Japanese_Pokémon_names|Marakacchi is not its official spelling.]]----'''''無限の知性''''' ◎ [[User:Dennou Zenshi|ＤＥＮＮＯＵ]]'''[[Special:Random|◆]]'''[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|ＺＥＮＳＨＩ]] 16:20, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
:::It is not a fan site, it's the official blog of the Card staff of Creatures, Inc. The filename appears to be in a standard format which the blogger didn't type themself, but rather copied from a central database of their intranet. Have a look at the directory listings [http://ptcg.creatures.co.jp/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/] [http://ptcg.creatures.co.jp/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/] and you'll see many filenames in the same naming format and you'll recognize many other official spellings that we already know. You are right that we have to be careful about filenames and I've seen wrong spellings of uploads on that blog as well, but those didn't have the naming format. --[[User:Nyoo|nYoo]] 16:33, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
::::Sorry my mistake. Kenhallow? Symboler? Mooland? Very interesting.----'''''無限の知性''''' ◎ [[User:Dennou Zenshi|ＤＥＮＮＯＵ]]'''[[Special:Random|◆]]'''[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|ＺＥＮＳＨＩ]] 16:50, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::Much of these contradict the official romanzations we already have. We shouldn't trust picture file names. Both links are inconsistent with one another is well. One calls Gothitelle "Gothiruselle" and the other calls it "Gochiruselle". Suspicious... --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 22:09, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
::::::Is it really that hard to actually pay attention when you read what I write?! Can't you even spare a short moment to think about it before writing your response? The thing with "gochiruselle" is exactly what I referred to in my previous message here. One file is has the naming format "<card Set Code>_<Card No.>_<National Dex No.><name>" with the correct and official spelling of the Japanese name in latin letters (in this case "[http://ptcg.creatures.co.jp/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/BW1_R028_576GOTHIRUSELLE.jpg BW1_R028_576GOTHIRUSELLE.jpg]"). It seems to be a filename they copied rather than typing them on their own while the other one ("[http://ptcg.creatures.co.jp/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/card_1_gochiruselle.jpg card_1_gochiruselle.jpg]") probably was typed by one of the people writing on the blog. I wouldn't usually trust filenames, even on official sites, myself, but the way these appear, they seem to legitimately contain the correct name spellings. (ONCE AGAIN, I am only referring to the ones in the naming format I mentioned before.) Would you please elaborate on what other "contradictory" spelling you believe to see there and why the other spellings you think of being official can be trusted (i. e. what official merchandise did they appear on)? --[[User:Nyoo|nYoo]] 09:12, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::::Jeez... Sorry... {{p|Pendra|Pendror}} and {{p|Buffalon|Buffron}} were some of the ones I was referring to. And I believe they are in the format you mentioned. As is [[Looker|Handsam]]. I don't have official merchandise with those romanizations but the person who moved them said it was official. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 10:01, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
::::::::Pendra and Buffalon were just assumed to be their official romanizations by some user(s).----'''''無限の知性''''' ◎ [[User:Dennou Zenshi|ＤＥＮＮＯＵ]]'''[[Special:Random|◆]]'''[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|ＺＥＮＳＨＩ]] 15:11, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::::::Exactly. Many romanizations that we use at the moment are assumed by users (for example, I changed Ranculus into correct Lanculus yesterday). These filenames look trustable to me. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 15:21, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
::::::::::Haven't we already seen that the filenames of the site in question have also used things like Purasuru (as seen [[a:File:023131 P PURASURU.jpg|here]] when the file was uploaded via url upload) for Plusle, and other contradictions. We've already decided before that we can't trust the card database, which this blog is a branch of. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 03:39, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

== Is this trivia worthy? ==

Maractus, as a fully-evolved Pokemon, does not learn Hyper Beam or Giga Impact. --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] ([[User talk:Mackinz|talk]]) 16:19, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Maractus (Pokémon)

2012-12-10T16:19:00Z

Mackinz: /* Is this trivia worthy? */ new section

==Rarity==
I'm not sure how to determine rarity, but I'm fairly certain this one is uncommon.--[[User:Shinbora|Shinbora]] 23:47, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

==Romanization==
I have mentioned this in edit summaries and on other talk pages before, but the correct Hepburn romanization is Maraka'''t'''chi, not Maraka'''c'''chi. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 14:29, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
:The official spelling is Maracacchi [http://ptcg.creatures.co.jp/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/BW1_C008_556MARACACCHI.jpg] --[[User:Nyoo|nYoo]] 16:05, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
::But that isn't an official site but a fan blog, and the blogger just named that card after its literal romanization, <tt>Ma ra ka cchi</tt>. [[List_of_Japanese_Pokémon_names|Marakacchi is not its official spelling.]]----'''''無限の知性''''' ◎ [[User:Dennou Zenshi|ＤＥＮＮＯＵ]]'''[[Special:Random|◆]]'''[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|ＺＥＮＳＨＩ]] 16:20, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
:::It is not a fan site, it's the official blog of the Card staff of Creatures, Inc. The filename appears to be in a standard format which the blogger didn't type themself, but rather copied from a central database of their intranet. Have a look at the directory listings [http://ptcg.creatures.co.jp/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/] [http://ptcg.creatures.co.jp/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/] and you'll see many filenames in the same naming format and you'll recognize many other official spellings that we already know. You are right that we have to be careful about filenames and I've seen wrong spellings of uploads on that blog as well, but those didn't have the naming format. --[[User:Nyoo|nYoo]] 16:33, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
::::Sorry my mistake. Kenhallow? Symboler? Mooland? Very interesting.----'''''無限の知性''''' ◎ [[User:Dennou Zenshi|ＤＥＮＮＯＵ]]'''[[Special:Random|◆]]'''[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|ＺＥＮＳＨＩ]] 16:50, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::Much of these contradict the official romanzations we already have. We shouldn't trust picture file names. Both links are inconsistent with one another is well. One calls Gothitelle "Gothiruselle" and the other calls it "Gochiruselle". Suspicious... --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 22:09, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
::::::Is it really that hard to actually pay attention when you read what I write?! Can't you even spare a short moment to think about it before writing your response? The thing with "gochiruselle" is exactly what I referred to in my previous message here. One file is has the naming format "<card Set Code>_<Card No.>_<National Dex No.><name>" with the correct and official spelling of the Japanese name in latin letters (in this case "[http://ptcg.creatures.co.jp/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/BW1_R028_576GOTHIRUSELLE.jpg BW1_R028_576GOTHIRUSELLE.jpg]"). It seems to be a filename they copied rather than typing them on their own while the other one ("[http://ptcg.creatures.co.jp/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/card_1_gochiruselle.jpg card_1_gochiruselle.jpg]") probably was typed by one of the people writing on the blog. I wouldn't usually trust filenames, even on official sites, myself, but the way these appear, they seem to legitimately contain the correct name spellings. (ONCE AGAIN, I am only referring to the ones in the naming format I mentioned before.) Would you please elaborate on what other "contradictory" spelling you believe to see there and why the other spellings you think of being official can be trusted (i. e. what official merchandise did they appear on)? --[[User:Nyoo|nYoo]] 09:12, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::::Jeez... Sorry... {{p|Pendra|Pendror}} and {{p|Buffalon|Buffron}} were some of the ones I was referring to. And I believe they are in the format you mentioned. As is [[Looker|Handsam]]. I don't have official merchandise with those romanizations but the person who moved them said it was official. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 10:01, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
::::::::Pendra and Buffalon were just assumed to be their official romanizations by some user(s).----'''''無限の知性''''' ◎ [[User:Dennou Zenshi|ＤＥＮＮＯＵ]]'''[[Special:Random|◆]]'''[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|ＺＥＮＳＨＩ]] 15:11, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::::::Exactly. Many romanizations that we use at the moment are assumed by users (for example, I changed Ranculus into correct Lanculus yesterday). These filenames look trustable to me. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 15:21, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
::::::::::Haven't we already seen that the filenames of the site in question have also used things like Purasuru (as seen [[a:File:023131 P PURASURU.jpg|here]] when the file was uploaded via url upload) for Plusle, and other contradictions. We've already decided before that we can't trust the card database, which this blog is a branch of. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 03:39, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

== Is this trivia worthy? ==

Maractus, as a fully-evolved Pokemon does not learn Hyper Beam or Giga Impact. --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] ([[User talk:Mackinz|talk]]) 16:19, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Pleasant Forest (Dream World)

2012-12-01T00:52:27Z

Mackinz: /* Inconsistencies */

If someone good with the tables could put the list of pokemon in one, that would be good. ☆[[User:Solar Dragon|The]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|Solar]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|Dragon]]☆ 20:16, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
:It depends what is defined for each Pokémon, and what is random. I know IVs and Nature are determined at random, as it can be changed by soft reseting the DS and going back to the Entralink forest to catch them again. The Ponyta I befriended was level 10. Are all the Pokémon other people have befriended level 10, is it randomly decided when encountered in Pleasant Forest, or does it depend on the species? I'm assuming that the gender is determined upon encounter in the Dream World, given it's stated on the friend board. I'm assuming that the befriended Pokémon always have their Dream World abilities.

:Once we know what's static for each species, we can look at repurposing or adjusting another template as required, it'll probably be easier. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 22:28, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

::Level isn't really random. Event Pokémon have set ones, like 100 for the DW Arceus. I've had an Aerodactyl at level 12, so it might be area dependent. Not really sure though since most of my Pokémon are still at the forest. Gender, moves, levels are set beforehand, and they always have their DW/hidden abilities. Games depend on the species (or maybe area and species - haven't checked Taillow), so no need to list on every area article. {{tt|*|Has no one else other than me here played the Japanese DW which was out for months?}} [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 01:27, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

==Befriended Pokémon==
In the intrests of determining what is static for each species, can people post information on the Pokémon they have befrended here please? [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 22:28, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

* Ponyta, level 10, male, no held item [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 22:28, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

:No need for this, really. [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 01:27, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

== Questions to investigate ==

I doubt anyone's gonna have the answers yet; I'm asking this just to put the questions out there for people to consider/investigate.
*Are there only two rare (that is, non-level-up) moves each Pokémon can possible know? If so, we have to remove the extra moveslots in the template.
*Are all Pokémon level 10? Seems like it up to now, though it could always only be in this area, or only those that are unlocked by default. Though, we could generalize at least that "default Pokémon in the Pleasant Forest" are always level 10. Maybe we could omit that field in the template and specify it in text before it.
*Do the two (maybe more) rare moves differ in rarity? I know that the points you earn in a minigame determine if you get more rare moves, but is it random or is one move more difficult to obtain than the other? (For that matter, can you see more than one move on the Pokémon before transferring it to your game? I've only seen one at once, though again, I suck at the minigames.) If they do, we might want to distinguish between them.
*I've heard that females are rarer than males, and that they usually don't come with the rare moves. Can they have the rare moves at all? Or maybe only the least rare one, if there ''is'' a least rare one?
Just for you people to ponder over, maybe someone already knows. '''[[User:Memo326|Memo]]'''[[User talk:Memo326|326]] 07:12, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
#Pokémon always come with 2 moves. +1 more depending on the score (maybe +2 too I think). People may want to know the ordinary moves they always have, so place all four.
#All default ones from the forest, from experience, are level 10. Not sure on later ones since mine are still in my forest. Later areas have higher levels, like my lv 12 Aerodactyl from the sky.
#I think there is a ranking on the moves. For example, I never got Shinx with Night Slash. Only Magnet Rise alone or none.
#From experience on games, males with the attacks are hardest to get. But since you can purposely get very high or very low scores, females tend to be harder to find since they usually go for middle-ish/not-so-low scores. Based on my observation anyway. [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 07:28, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
::Regarding the number of moves, my Sentret has Foresight, Defense Curl, Quick Attack and Covet. Covet was the only move specified by the Dream World as one of its moves (so one of the special ones). Checking Sentret's level up moves, the first three are the moves that a wild level 10 Sentret would have in Generation V (it would also have Scatch, but that was pushed off the moveset by covet). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 07:42, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
:::Yes, and the two (female) Pokémon I've received have no special moves, but have four moves; all four being the ones they'd know at level 10 in the wild. So yeah, I don't think we should include them (in any case, we would include the four normal and two special, or only the two special moves). Also, we really need to make a better template; when we're talking about 20-30ish Pokémon, maybe we could put them in a vertical way à la the [[Team Rocket Grunt (Trainer class)#Pokémon|Pokémon section of Team Rocket Grunt]] (but with more data obviously)... '''[[User:Memo326|Memo]]'''[[User talk:Memo326|326]] 18:54, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
::::For what it's worth, my female Lickitung had Sleep Talk, which is considered one of the "rare" moves. --[[User:HeroicJay|HeroicJay]] 21:39, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
:::::Yeah, I just came here to say that my female Bellsprout had Seed Bomb, so they can have rare moves. Anyways, we should put in here (or maybe somewhere else) what are the "rare" moves we are getting, to see if we can notice a pattern of some moves rarer than others or something. '''[[User:Memo326|Memo]]'''[[User talk:Memo326|326]] 06:54, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
[[User:Maverick Hunter|Maverick Hunter]] 12:37, 16 April 2011 (UTC)All pokémon levels are predeterminated by the game program, and can be found at this place: http://pokemon.maruamyu.net/data/bw/pdw_lv.html . Unova Pokémon are not on this list because they can't be catch on the entralink forest.
::::::1) Whether a Pokemon is male or female is set before you play the minigame, whether this affects the moves it gets at the end I don't know.
::::::2) The move given to a Pokemon depends on the Rank you recieve in the game. Each game has five possible Ranks depending on the score. The moves may also differ across different genders.
::::::3) The Pokemon get one move from the Dream World, and the rest of the moves are their normal moveset. Some moves that Pokemon can get from the Dream World are the normal ones though, for lower-points ranks. Knowing the scores you could match and make a list of what rank is what move.
::::::[[User:Bluesun|Bluesun]] 13:46, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
::::::Oh, and the Pokemon you meet (and its gender) determines which game you play. For some Pokemon you can tell their gender just by what game they ask for. [[User:Bluesun|Bluesun]] 13:51, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

== Inconsistencies ==

I just came back from the Dream World after encountering a Glameow and a Scyther shortly after. I took neither, opting for a female Shinx, but I just checked my Dream World points and my total is currently at 6770. Even if I had this score when I encountered the Scyther and Glameow (I didn't), I still would not have the 7500 total points necessary to find them according to this wiki.

I had a Swadloon tucked in from Black 2.

Edit: In addition, I know I have a Hoppip from the Dream World that I got about a week ago. Same game card, maybe a different Pokemon (can't remember). According to this wiki, Hoppips only appear if the game card connected is Black or White, not Black 2 or White 2.

--[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] ([[User talk:Mackinz|talk]]) 08:29, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

:Hopip only appears in the Sky, not the Forest for B2W2. In addition, I think the point values between BW and B2W2 actually changed, whih would explain your other inconsistency. [[User:RB Golbat|RB Golbat]] ([[User talk:RB Golbat|talk]]) 15:47, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

::it appears in the pokedex books that all 7,500 point Pokemon in BW, are 5,000 in B2W2. [[User:RB Golbat|RB Golbat]] ([[User talk:RB Golbat|talk]]) 19:36, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

:::This should be edited into the area articles then. --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] ([[User talk:Mackinz|talk]]) 00:52, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Pleasant Forest (Dream World)

2012-11-30T08:44:03Z

Mackinz: /* Inconsistencies */ Inconsistencies with encounters based upon personal experience.

Talk:Pleasant Forest (Dream World)

2012-11-30T08:29:27Z

Mackinz: /* Inconsistencies */ new section

If someone good with the tables could put the list of pokemon in one, that would be good. ☆[[User:Solar Dragon|The]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|Solar]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|Dragon]]☆ 20:16, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
:It depends what is defined for each Pokémon, and what is random. I know IVs and Nature are determined at random, as it can be changed by soft reseting the DS and going back to the Entralink forest to catch them again. The Ponyta I befriended was level 10. Are all the Pokémon other people have befriended level 10, is it randomly decided when encountered in Pleasant Forest, or does it depend on the species? I'm assuming that the gender is determined upon encounter in the Dream World, given it's stated on the friend board. I'm assuming that the befriended Pokémon always have their Dream World abilities.

:Once we know what's static for each species, we can look at repurposing or adjusting another template as required, it'll probably be easier. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 22:28, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

::Level isn't really random. Event Pokémon have set ones, like 100 for the DW Arceus. I've had an Aerodactyl at level 12, so it might be area dependent. Not really sure though since most of my Pokémon are still at the forest. Gender, moves, levels are set beforehand, and they always have their DW/hidden abilities. Games depend on the species (or maybe area and species - haven't checked Taillow), so no need to list on every area article. {{tt|*|Has no one else other than me here played the Japanese DW which was out for months?}} [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 01:27, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

==Befriended Pokémon==
In the intrests of determining what is static for each species, can people post information on the Pokémon they have befrended here please? [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 22:28, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

* Ponyta, level 10, male, no held item [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 22:28, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

:No need for this, really. [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 01:27, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

== Questions to investigate ==

I doubt anyone's gonna have the answers yet; I'm asking this just to put the questions out there for people to consider/investigate.
*Are there only two rare (that is, non-level-up) moves each Pokémon can possible know? If so, we have to remove the extra moveslots in the template.
*Are all Pokémon level 10? Seems like it up to now, though it could always only be in this area, or only those that are unlocked by default. Though, we could generalize at least that "default Pokémon in the Pleasant Forest" are always level 10. Maybe we could omit that field in the template and specify it in text before it.
*Do the two (maybe more) rare moves differ in rarity? I know that the points you earn in a minigame determine if you get more rare moves, but is it random or is one move more difficult to obtain than the other? (For that matter, can you see more than one move on the Pokémon before transferring it to your game? I've only seen one at once, though again, I suck at the minigames.) If they do, we might want to distinguish between them.
*I've heard that females are rarer than males, and that they usually don't come with the rare moves. Can they have the rare moves at all? Or maybe only the least rare one, if there ''is'' a least rare one?
Just for you people to ponder over, maybe someone already knows. '''[[User:Memo326|Memo]]'''[[User talk:Memo326|326]] 07:12, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
#Pokémon always come with 2 moves. +1 more depending on the score (maybe +2 too I think). People may want to know the ordinary moves they always have, so place all four.
#All default ones from the forest, from experience, are level 10. Not sure on later ones since mine are still in my forest. Later areas have higher levels, like my lv 12 Aerodactyl from the sky.
#I think there is a ranking on the moves. For example, I never got Shinx with Night Slash. Only Magnet Rise alone or none.
#From experience on games, males with the attacks are hardest to get. But since you can purposely get very high or very low scores, females tend to be harder to find since they usually go for middle-ish/not-so-low scores. Based on my observation anyway. [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 07:28, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
::Regarding the number of moves, my Sentret has Foresight, Defense Curl, Quick Attack and Covet. Covet was the only move specified by the Dream World as one of its moves (so one of the special ones). Checking Sentret's level up moves, the first three are the moves that a wild level 10 Sentret would have in Generation V (it would also have Scatch, but that was pushed off the moveset by covet). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 07:42, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
:::Yes, and the two (female) Pokémon I've received have no special moves, but have four moves; all four being the ones they'd know at level 10 in the wild. So yeah, I don't think we should include them (in any case, we would include the four normal and two special, or only the two special moves). Also, we really need to make a better template; when we're talking about 20-30ish Pokémon, maybe we could put them in a vertical way à la the [[Team Rocket Grunt (Trainer class)#Pokémon|Pokémon section of Team Rocket Grunt]] (but with more data obviously)... '''[[User:Memo326|Memo]]'''[[User talk:Memo326|326]] 18:54, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
::::For what it's worth, my female Lickitung had Sleep Talk, which is considered one of the "rare" moves. --[[User:HeroicJay|HeroicJay]] 21:39, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
:::::Yeah, I just came here to say that my female Bellsprout had Seed Bomb, so they can have rare moves. Anyways, we should put in here (or maybe somewhere else) what are the "rare" moves we are getting, to see if we can notice a pattern of some moves rarer than others or something. '''[[User:Memo326|Memo]]'''[[User talk:Memo326|326]] 06:54, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
[[User:Maverick Hunter|Maverick Hunter]] 12:37, 16 April 2011 (UTC)All pokémon levels are predeterminated by the game program, and can be found at this place: http://pokemon.maruamyu.net/data/bw/pdw_lv.html . Unova Pokémon are not on this list because they can't be catch on the entralink forest.
::::::1) Whether a Pokemon is male or female is set before you play the minigame, whether this affects the moves it gets at the end I don't know.
::::::2) The move given to a Pokemon depends on the Rank you recieve in the game. Each game has five possible Ranks depending on the score. The moves may also differ across different genders.
::::::3) The Pokemon get one move from the Dream World, and the rest of the moves are their normal moveset. Some moves that Pokemon can get from the Dream World are the normal ones though, for lower-points ranks. Knowing the scores you could match and make a list of what rank is what move.
::::::[[User:Bluesun|Bluesun]] 13:46, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
::::::Oh, and the Pokemon you meet (and its gender) determines which game you play. For some Pokemon you can tell their gender just by what game they ask for. [[User:Bluesun|Bluesun]] 13:51, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

== Inconsistencies ==

I just came back from the Dream World after encountering a Glameow and a Scyther shortly after. I took neither, opting for a female Shinx, but I just checked my Dream World points and my total is currently at 6770. Even if I had this score when I encountered the Scyther and Glameow (I didn't), I still would not have the 7500 total points necessary to find them according to this wiki.

I had a Swadloon tucked in from Black 2.

--[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] ([[User talk:Mackinz|talk]]) 08:29, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

User talk:Mackinz

2010-11-24T02:16:17Z

Mackinz: /* Japanese lesson time. */

Talk:Snivy (Pokémon)

2010-11-23T03:54:09Z

Mackinz: /* Small addition to name origin */

{{forums notice|March 31, 2011}}
I can't edit for some reason, but
-Snivy is listed as the Japanese name
-In the name origin section, the "Sni" may also refer to snide.[[User:Chiramii|Chiramii]] 00:05, 23 November 2010 (UTC)Chiramii

== origin ==
Given that the "ja" means "snake" (acording to Pokebeach), I think it is safe to assume that Tsutaaja is based on a snake. Mind putting that in the page? --[[User:Deuxhero|Deuxhero]] 00:54, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

The same post that told us these names on 2ch, said Tsutaaja is the くさへびポケモン (Grass Snake Pokémon).
Tsuta (蔦) means ivy and Ja is another reading for hebi (蛇), which means snake.--[[User:KurowaSan|KurowaSan]] 01:02, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
:How many snakes do you know have feet? I doubt that is a correct translation. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 01:34, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
::The translation is pretty accurate, the source may be not. But the source has nailed the description of the protagonists, the region name, the fact that the other starters were a fire pig and a sea otter before the scans leaked... And I have seen freaky snakes with legs.. XD Mutations nonetheless. And that would be "Grass Snake" as in a snake of/from grass, not as in the real world species "Grass Snake".--[[User:KurowaSan|KurowaSan]] 01:41, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
:::There actually is a type of snake with legs, albeit really small ones. It's native to Australia, if I remember right. I know they have one at the Cairns Zoo, anyway. [[User:Reign|Reign]] 02:13, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
:::: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opheodrys_aestivus this doesn't have feet, but it looks like tsutaaja [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 12:38, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
::::: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxybelis_fulgidus I would sooner assume Tsutaaja is based off of a Vine Snake. In fact, I'd say it's fairly definite. [[User:Flint|Flint]] 20:50, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::: I think Origin should just mention grass snakes (green kind mostly) instead of getting very technical with species, seeing as there is far too many snakes that Tsutaaja may be based on. And maybe that early tidbit of a very few snakes having legs could also be mentioned. And is it just me, or does the collar it has kinda makes it resemble an unripened banana? [[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]] 21:07, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::: It looks to me as though Tsutaaja may have been based off of a skink of sort, however skinks are closer related to lisards than snakes. I also think because this is a Pokémon that the collaring may have just as likely come from the fact that it is a grass type species. [[User:EpicShadow|EpicShadow]] 9:12, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

== bad grammar in the Origin section ==

Can we fix this?: "Tsutaaja may be based off a lizard or a snake. Its shared traits with boths make it similar to skinks."
It should be "... with both makes it similar...". my dictionary and i are fairly sure "boths" isn't a word and the grammar in that sentence is atrocious anyway. --[[User:Lulu chan126|Lulu chan126]] 22:26, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

== images ==

Uhh, I have the three guys images saved, to upload, if a mod can do that...
[http://img24.imageshack.us/i/497pokabu.png/][http://img219.imageshack.us/i/500mijumaru.png/][http://img10.imageshack.us/i/494tsutaaja.png/] [[User:Megadog|Megadog]] 05:12, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

:As do I, but I Beilieve the Admin isn't allowing editing for those Images . . . not that any are even there. --[[User:Lordrogersmith6485|Lordrogersmith6485]] 07:58, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
::I've seen them on Legendary Pokémon fan site. Not sure if it is okay to use them. '''[[User:Kevzo8|Kev]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|zo8]]''' 13:27, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
:::sprites too, along with zoroark's...[http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/1666/spritesu.png] {{unsigned|Megadog}}

== height ==

the height and weight of it is 0.6 m and 8.1 kg {{unsigned|Pokemonemerfan1954}}
:Got a source that isn't Serebii? —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:57, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
::Filb.de, trom. '''[[User:Kevzo8|Kev]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|zo8]]''' 13:36, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

== Acceptable Speculation? ==
Is it alright to add in details that have been present for all of the Pokemon starters so far; such as EXP At Level 100, EXP Yield, and Gender Ratio? After four generations of Pokemon games having them identical, it's highly unlikely to be different this time. [[User:Plasma|Plasma]] 11:36, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
:Passing off unsourced speculation as fact is bad. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 11:45, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
:: You say that, but the starters all have National Dex numbers (494, etc.). Where does ''that'' information come from? I know it's an educated guess, but at the moment it's still just a guess. The same goes for the types - do we know they're all pure types? ~ [[User:Serial Colour|Serial Colour]] 13:46, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
:::We know at least one of their types. So we put that. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 18:28, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
::::Should we at least list their secondary types as {{type2|???}} to indicate that we only know their primary types? -[[User:KinCryos|KinCryos]] 07:19, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

== Name romanization ==

Why are we romanizing the name as "Tsutaaja"? {{bp|Manual of style/Romanization}} states that macrons should be used instead of doubling letters, unless the trademarked romanization begs to differ. And there is no trademarked romanization (I scoured the trademark database last night) - we don't even have official confirmation that these ''are'' the starters' names.

I mean, I personally don't like macrons, but shouldn't we romanize it as "Tsutāja," as per the MoS? [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 17:45, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
:Most people would link to the redirect anyway... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 17:57, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
::Shouldn't we just call it Tsutaja? When {{p|Piplup|Pocchama}} was first revealed it was just romanized as Pochama on this site. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 21:47, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
:::It's not going to stick this way anyway, I'd just leave it. Unless we rename the page [http://kotaku.com/5538319/pokemons-smugleaf-a-meme-in-the-making/ Smugleaf]. - [[User:DanPMK|MK]] ([[User Talk:DanPMK|t]]/[[Special:contributions/DanPMK|c]]) 03:22, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

::::No, we should use this name 'tsutaaja' till we don't gate its official English name..! -{{u|Amitrc7th}}

:::::FYI, this site would prefer to use trademarked romaji if it's available. We never romanized ポッチャマ as Potchama or Pocchama because we were given both the official katakana and the official romaji (Pochama) on the same day. We should have official romaji soon, and I'm pretty sure that no official romaji has ever used a macron, so this whole issue should be a moot point soon. [[User:Drapion|Drapion]] 06:59, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

== Height and Weight ==

Got this from Pokebeach:

Height: 0.6m (2ft)

Weight: 8.1kg (17.9Ibs) --[[User:Dialgafan1|Dialgafan1]] 00:02, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

:Well, you don't really have to look at pokebeach for that one. You can just look at the scans. XD
:But yeah, those (in metric system) are accurate. And I don't really understand why haven't anyone added those. o_O They added the ability and species, but those are on the very same scan as height and weight. Also, the name origin is pretty much a given already. Can someone add all those, please?--[[User:KurowaSan|KurowaSan]] 04:56, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

== In the anime ==
Tsutarja, is a reptile-based [[Grass-type]] [[starter]] Pokémon. Since [[Ash Ketchum]] (Satoshi) has captured all the Grass-type starters and most of reptile-like Pokémons, it is highly possible that he will get this Pokémon somehow in Black and White saga (if he is going to appear in this anime saga). -{{u|Amitrc7th}}
:That's speculation. Bulbapedia has rules against speculation, so it won't be added to the page until he catches it (if he does). By the way, please put new comments at the bottom of the page. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 08:47, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
::Please bring these conversation to the forums.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 10:24, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

== Sprite ==

Here's the sprite I uploaded onto Bulbagarden Archives from CoroCoro: [[User:Dialgafan1|Dialgafan1]] 18:44, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

[[File:SpriteTstuaaja.png|thumb|right]]

== This needs to be moved. ==

To Tsutāja. You know, long a's and stuff. [[User:Vik0z0z|vik0z0z]] 19:45, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

:I believe that the reason the article is at Tsutaaja for the time being is that we want to avoid using extraneous characters whenever possible in page titles. For some reason, it puts a strain on the server. At least, that's what I recall us deciding awhile back... I could be wrong, though. Either way, the double "a" indicates the same sound without the special character. --[[User:Politoed666|''P'' ''o'']] [[User talk:Politoed666|''L'' ''i'']] 19:48, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

==Origin==
Haven't you noted Tsutaaja's striking resemblance to {{wp|Uroplatus phantasticus|this gecko}}? A reptile with a tail that looks like a leaf. It has rather huge eyes, too, just like Tsutaaja. - [[User:D-Wheel|D-Wheel]] 21:34, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
:Eh it's a possibility, but since it's a "snake" Pokémon I doubt it...[[User:.insomniac.|«ιɴsσ]]м[[User_talk:.insomniac.|ɴιαc»]] 07:35, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
::But do we have any snakes that also have a leaf-like tail? Sure snakes with legs exist, but Tsutaaja does seem to have characteristics of both snakes and lizards. I don't think this debate will ever end... [[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]] 16:33, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Hey look, it's a {{p|Treecko}}. [[User:M190049|'''''~m190049''''']][[User talk:M190049|'''''~talk''''']] 00:42, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
:::I really think this might be a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass_Snake glass snake]. They're actually lizards, but they resemble snakes. The leafy tail must be just decoration. :P -- [[User:Pro-mole|Professional Mole]] ([[User talk:Pro-mole|Talk here]]) 14:04, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
:We will know more about this Pokémon come the English-language release (or, if we're lucky, the Jp release). Until then we will go on the most vague sort of information we've got. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 06:46, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

== Physiology ==

"Tsutaaja is a Grass-type lizard-like Pokémon. "
That should read "Tsutaaja is a Grass-type Snake Pokemon" or "snake-like Pokemon"

It's Japanese name and species name clearly define it as a snake, regardless of whether or not it has legs, officially, it is a snake. -Daisuke
:Appearance wise, it's a lizard.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 04:16, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
::Not necesarilly. There ''are'' types of snakes with legs. If anyone has a list of animals at Cairns Zoo in Queensland, Australia, they have them there. [[User:Reign|Reign]] 08:05, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

== Name dispute ==

As stated [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showthread.php?t=63621 here], http://www.pokabu.com/ and http://www.mijumaru.com/ are both correctly registered by TPCi, but there's no tsutaaja.com. There is a correctly registered http://www.tsutarja.com/ though. This is the closest we'll get right now to a trademarked name, and this romanization has been used on other sites before. Should this be changed?--'''[[User:Immewnity|''immewnity'']][[User talk:Immewnity|the]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|mew]]''' 18:21, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
:Meh, I say keep it as it is, and create Tsutarja as a redirect. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 18:25, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
::How come? That was a fandone romanization, while this one's official.--'''[[User:Immewnity|''immewnity'']][[User talk:Immewnity|the]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|mew]]''' 18:39, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Aren't all romanizations fandone at heart? [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 18:56, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
::::...no... It's called [[List of Japanese Pokémon names|trademarked romaji]].--'''[[User:Immewnity|''immewnity'']][[User talk:Immewnity|the]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|mew]]''' 19:00, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::Hm, it seems then that it is Tsutarja. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:00, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
As well, Filb is calling the Pokémon Tsutāja. Is this just another romanization of the name? –'''[[User:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User talk:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 05:52, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
:Yes. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 05:57, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
::I still don't understand. It's written Tsutaaja, on the show they pronounce it Tsutaaja, there's no other way to read it than Tsutaaja...But they call its Tsutarja? There's a big difference. If it was Tsutarja, it would probably be ツタアルジャ, not　ツタアージャ. --[[User:Raktoner|Raktoner]] 19:45, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
:::No, that is not how it works. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 19:46, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
::::They ''did'' pronounce it as "tah-jah" on Pokemon Sunday though. If that means anything. [[User:M190049|'''''~m190049''''']][[User talk:M190049|'''''~talk''''']] 23:49, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::Five char limit in Pokemon, even if they changed the limit for JP games... it wouldn't be ツタアージャ (romanized as "Tsutaa'aja", I believe?), and "アー" can be romanized as an "ar" sometimes. Also... I'm pretty sure they also pronounced "Pocket Monsters" as "poketto monsutaa" on Pokesun (from what I can hear anyway, they talk too faaaaaast). So yeah. D: ▫▫'''[[User:Tina|ティナ]]'''[[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|★]] 00:03, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Actually there isn't a big difference between Tsutaaja and Tsutarja. It's called a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhotic_and_non-rhotic_accents non-rhotic] r. You may have noticed that people from London or Boston tend to not pronounce the letter r when it's and the end of a word or before a consonant. Well, in Japanese the r sound can only ever come before a vowel, so when the letter r is at the end of a word or before a consonant they tend to approximate the sound with a long a, sometimes written aa. Take my name, Peter, for example. Someone from London or Boston would probably drop the r sound at the end, and likewise the Japanese approximate it as ピーター and pronounce it Piitaa. R's before consonants or at the ends of words are almost always approximated by a long a and not a ル. {{unsigned|Drapion}}
::::Exactly, what Drapion said! I still pronounce it the same!--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 07:51, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::Actually, that's really interesting. And to think I put a rant about this on pokecharms the other day... But you're right. I just think it's a little on the odd side is all, I guess. --[[User:Raktoner|Raktoner]] 22:35, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::Heh yeah the whole thing is sort of strange. Basically they're using an english-ish pronunciation and putting that into Japanese. Using ā for ar/er is common for this. Hamburger is ハンバーガー (hanbāgā), Earnest is アーネスト (ānesuto), Schumaker is シュメイカー (shumeikā), etc. - [[User:DanPMK|MK]] ([[User Talk:DanPMK|t]]/[[Special:contributions/DanPMK|c]]) 03:10, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

== Bird of Paradise Flower ==

I know that the new pokemon is based on a grass snake, but if you look at it's snout and it's tail, it reminds me of a {{wp|Strelitzia}} a.k.a. the Bird of Paradise Flower. I know that this is a foolish question, but I suggest that you should put that in to what the new pokemon is based of in Origin? - [[User:Cynthia149]] 09:12, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
:I believe this got a "no" when you suggested it before... [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 18:56, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
:: I contacted that question to [[User:TTEchidna]] weeks ago, and he said that the origin will be changed when more info is unleashed. You have a look at the flower when the pod is closed, and then you will see the resembelence to this new Pokemon. - [[User:Cynthia149]] 20:46, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
:::If that's what he said, then that's what we're going by. We have not gotten any more information on the starters since then. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 19:51, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
::::When the information is ''unleashed''? Is it going to turn into a [[wp:Sonic Unleashed|werewolf?]] -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 23:58, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

==Moves==

According to a video, This pokemon either used Razor Leaf or Leaf Storm, I am not sure which...[[User:Chomi|Chomi]] 09:22, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
:It's Leaf Storm, to clarify. ▫▫'''[[User:Tina|ティナ]]'''[[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|★]] 14:38, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
:But we don't know what level it learns it at, so there's not really anywhere we can put it in the article.--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 15:03, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

== Physiology to be added by admins ==

I wrote up a physical description of Tsutarja for the Physiology section, since as of now it's pretty sparce. I know there's certain info that can't be added as of now, but I don't see why we can't have basic appearance descriptions. Besides, Pokabu has a much more extensive Physiology section. It's up for use if someone wants to add it.

"Tsutarja is a reptilian Grass-type Pokémon. Most of its body is green in coloration, while it has a cream-colored underside. A yellow stripe runs down the length of its back and tail, and it also has yellow markings around its large eyes. Yellow, curved structures protrude from its shoulders and bend backwards. These structures resemble leaves or small wings and give Tsutarja the appearance of wearing a collar. In spite of being snake-like in appearance, it has fully-developed limbs. Its slender arms are the same green color as the rest of its body and have three fingers, while its tiny feet match its underside in coloration and have no digits whatsoever. It has large, palmate leaf with three prongs on the end of its tail.

[[User:Togeknight|~Destruction on Wings~]] 02:21, 25 June 2010 (UTC)Togeknight

== First Evolution? ==

In the recent Black/White Anime series leak on [http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Anime_season_title_revealed Bulbanews], an image was released that includes what looks to be first evolutions for, at the very least, Tsutarja and Mijumaru. I think Pokabu's first evolution is there as well next to the new female character. Either way, is there any way to crop down those images and place them in the articles, or is this a case of "wait for clearer images?" --[[User:Phantomjunkie|Phantomjunkie]] 17:27, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

that thing looks nothing like pokabu...even more so than the whole remoraid octillery thing ([[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 17:30, 1 July 2010 (UTC))
:This is both a case of clearer images. Anything like that would be speculation. It may look the same, but may not be related. We'd need further confirmation. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 17:31, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Tsutarja's evolution's name is Kenayake (ケナャーケ) [[User:Vkickass|Vkickass]] 21:05, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

:Even the biggest scans I can find of them are too small for them to be sharpened and still be readable, but the katakana would be ケナヤーケ, not ケナャーケ, which is Kenayaake, but if it follows Tsutarja, it's probably gonna be Kenayarke. --[[User:Goldenpelt|Goldenpelt]] 23:38, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
::I'm pretty sure it says Tsutakake (ツタケーク), but even if that what it says, we have absolutely no idea if that's the final name for it. (I say this because, on the character sheet in question, Tsutarja is called "Ivy" and Mijumaru is called something like "Rakkomaru." Uhh...?) [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 00:04, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
:::I suggest we leave the matter alone until something official pops up. The character sheet's names are small, and up to interpretation. And even if we manage to find which translation is correct, the name could change at any time. And to that point, the design itself could change since it appeared on beta artwork.--[[User:Element03|Element03]] 00:56, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
::::Yes, but this was beta artwork for the ''animé'', not the games. I'm sure the finalized versions of the Pokémon were set long before that beta artwork was released.--[[User:Phantomjunkie|Phantom]][[User talk:Phantomjunkie|junkie]] 01:19, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Now that there are actually pages for the (first) evolutions of the starters, shouldn't that be mentioned on the basic Pokémon pages? At the very least, that would be consistent, since it is stated that, for example, Janoby '''does''' evolve from Tsutarja. If we are that sure, it should be included here too. [[User:Turkadactyl|Turkadactyl]] 21:10, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:Those pages are currently in the userspace. They aren't totally confirmed. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 21:16, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
::But considering that they are included in [[:Category:New Pokémon]], as opposed to their own article (that says they are speculative) like the possible Stage 2s, wouldn't that assume that Bulbapedia is recognizing them as official? I guess I feel like it's still a consistency issue. At the very least if they're going to be included as "New Pokémon then it should be said on the basic page that it's speculated that they evolve into the higher forms. [[User:Turkadactyl|Turkadactyl]] 23:45, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:::I forgot to mention that they are now confirmed, didn't I? [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 23:59, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

== Smugleaf ==

Since we mentioned the "so i herd u liek mudkipz" internet meme in the trivia section on Mudkip's page, should we mention the "Smugleaf" internet meme in the trivia page for this article? - [[User:Gold Dialga|Gold Dialga]]
:Because "so i herd u like mudkipz" was added to Mudkips trivia it would make sens to put it in there. But do the admins realy want information on something as unofficial as memes? I think it would be best to wait for a response from a member of the Bulbagarden staff. [[User:EpicShadow|EpicShadow]] 2:36, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
::How far has this new meme spread? "so i herd u liek mudkipz" was a well established meme by the time we added it. Does this even come close? --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 19:47, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
:::I beleve it was created by a youtuber calld IAMTHEOBNXIOUSDOUCHE. It has three vidios making it a small series, all three vidios currantly have together have 8188 veiws. The first vidio was posted two months ago. The only article I've seen about it anywher els (there may be more outside of this) is KOTAKU who apparently claimed it as there own creation. In short it is not very well known but it is growing.[[User:EpicShadow|EpicShadow]] 3:21, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
::::It's spread to a forum populated almost entirely by Sonic fans, and the users of that forum will probably be referring to it as Smugleaf until the English name is revealed. I think that's pretty far for a Pokémon-related internet meme. - [[User:Gold Dialga|Gold Dialga]]
:::::If thats true would it be right to say that the meme had earnd it the nickname Smugleaf, because that may be a piece of trivia to mention in the future. (assuming that the official name does not actualy become Smugleaf wich it most likely will not) [[User:EpicShadow|EpicShadow]] 3:59, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
::::::Basically, most people know Tsutarja as Smugleaf. Its far easier to say/type, and has become widespread. It started literally the first day the starters were announced. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 23:15, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::::But that still makes it a fan-made nickname, should we mention it in the trivia section or leave it alone?[[User:EpicShadow|EpicShadow]] 7:52, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
::::::::I say we mention it in trivia - [[User:Gold Dialga|Gold Dialga]]
:::::::::So hey, who remembers the fan nicknames that were given to the fourth-gen starters before their English names were revealed?
:::::::::...Yeah, that's right, neither do I. And four years from now, I'll bet no one will remember "Smugleaf" either. So, I say not notable. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 02:43, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/smugleaf --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 02:56, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Maybe we should wait until this nickname becomes a little more widespread. The point at which it would be considered widespread enough to add to the page could be decided by the Bulbapedia staff. [[User:Steph|Steph]] 03:06, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
::::::::: The nickname isn't the real dispute its the meme based on a youtube vidio that we thougt should be put in. [[User:EpicShadow|EpicShadow]] 10:11, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
:Can we please just drop it until, as {{u|Steph}} says, things are handled a bit better in the sense we wait? [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 03:13, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::Everywhere I looked when the Gen4 starters were released, they were referred to by their Japanese name. Tsutarja, however, seems to carry the name Smugleaf with it everywhere it goes. It's a very widespread nickname from what I can tell. I've yet to meet any Pokémon fan who doesn't refere to it by this nickname so I see no reason for it to be exluded from the trivia section. Less significant things have made it into articals before and stuck. However, this so-called youtube meme... I've never heard of it.[[User:Me, Hurray!|Me, Hurray!]] 02:08, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
::If it's name does turn out to be Smugleaf, it'll go down. Just wait. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 02:53, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
:::I think it could be added after we get an English name. Also, I think it should be noted that the name was mentioned in my Official Nintendo Magazine Australia and New Zealand as a popular fan name. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 07:17, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
::::Pics or it didn't happen. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:22, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::[http://i523.photobucket.com/albums/w355/SnorlaxMonster/IMG.jpg] It's too big for the archives, so I uploaded it to Photobucket. Pics prove it. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:55, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
::::::No idea that magazine even existed. I really only wanted the pics for the proof of the magazine :D Can you write an article on it? Also... [[a:File:NZAU Magazine Scan.jpg|I think I might just be awesome. Or something]] :D —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:53, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

===English name===
I bet it's "Snivy" or something, like all other Pokémon have similar English and Japanese name meanings. And you all are getting worked up over nothing. When stuff becomes notable, they will acknowledge it. After all, remember that hype in May of 2009? They picked up on it. They knew we wanted it. And then they announced it. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:11, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

== About its National number ==

Yes. We know. {{p|Victini}} is #000 in the Isshu dex. This means nothing right now about its National number. Think of it this way: they put Victini at #000 so that you'd not know right off the bat getting it how many other Pokémon there are to find, especially given that it's gonna be an early event, like Manaphy. If you got Mew just after you got your starter in RBY, you'd know there's 151 Pokémon in Kanto. Same with Celebi in GSC, Deoxys in RSE, and so on. This is a failsafe to make Pokémon feel less like "let's see how many they added" and more like "oh, there's so many of these things, I wonder what they all are...". Sure, futile anyway, given that we'll likely have access to the games and have figured out everything by the day after it comes out... but still. An admirable solution to that huge-empty-Pokédex problem we've had since Gen I.

Tsutarja, until further notice, is staying at #494. We cannot assume anything different than it directly following Arceus, just as Chikorita followed Mew, Treecko followed Celebi, and Turtwig followed Deoxys. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:55, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
:I completely agree.--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 01:07, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

== Poor Origin Species Choice ==

The Origin Section on Tsutarja's page lables it as "[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opheodrys_aestivus Opheodrys aestivus], more commonly known as the rough green snake or green grass snake". I honsetly STRONGLY disagree with this noition. Other than the somewhat-similar color scheme, there's not TOO much in common- the face is WAY too different. I think that Tsutarja is MUCH more likely based on a somewhat-popular species [http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/03/Oxybelis_fulgidus_4.jpg known] [http://www.naturfoto-cz.de/photos/sevcik/green-vine-snake--oxybelis-fulgidus.jpg as the] [http://travel.mongabay.com/animals/080923/600/brnxz_711.jpg Vine] [http://www.jmg-galleries.com/blog_images/best_photos_2009/9_TRAVEL_COSTARICA_JMG9804_c.jpeg Snake]. The Vine Snake is a snake species found all throughout the Americas. Specifically notice the very similar ''pointed nose'', that the Rough Green Snake notably lacks. Also note the similar nostril and the very sharp line that passes straight through it's eye. ...Thoughts? [[User:M190049|'''''~m190049''''']][[User talk:M190049|'''''~talk''''']] 04:25, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
:I think you may be right.--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 04:29, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

== evolutionary lvls ==

Shouldn't we write evolves at lvl 16 and will evolve a second time at 36. or somthing along thoes lines. Becasue we all know thoes are the evolutionary levles for all starters.--[[User:Megamaxxor|'''''Mega''''']][[User talk:Megamaxxor|'''maxxor''']]-- 00:07, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
:Confirmation. We need it before we add anything to the articles.--[[User:Phantomjunkie|Phantom]][[User talk:Phantomjunkie|Junkie]] 00:09, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
::Monferno: evolves from Chimchar at 14. Grotle: evolves from Turtwig at 18 and into Torterra at 32. So yeah, it isn't confirmed without confirmation. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 00:16, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

NO! Turtwig evolvs at 16 i already checked [[User:Megamaxxor|'''''Mega''''']][[User talk:Megamaxxor|'''maxxor''']]-- 00:18, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
:Turtwig is my favorite Pokémon, I should know. Because that isn't proof, see {{p|Turtwig|this article}}. It says Turtwig evolves at 18. I also know because I have a level 17 Turtwig and it never once said it was going to evolve. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 00:26, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
::{{u|Turtwig A|TA}}'s right. We won't know for sure until its officially revealed. There's nothing wrong with waiting. [[User:Takharii|'''たか''']][[User talk:Takharii|'''はり''']][[Special:Contributions/Takharii|'''い''']] 00:29, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

:::Trust me, they could break entirely with tradition here. For all we know, all three of this new [[country]]'s starters could evolve for the first time at level 30 and the second time at level 55. Yes, if the previous countries' patterns actually counted for anything, this would suggest that all three starters would evolve first at level 16 and the second time around level 36, but there's no guarantee that the country of Isshu has to adhere to any odd-numbered-generation patterns that the countries of Kanto and Hoenn might have otherwise implied...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 00:53, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
::::Anyway, there is no pattern. Currently the starters evolve from level 14-18, then 30-36. There isn't very much consistency, especially not enough for us to assume anything. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 08:10, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

== Head shaped like Cyndaquil's ==

I noticed Tsutarja's head is shaped alot like Cyndaquil's head. Would this be worth mentioning in the physiology section? After all, it is also mentioned that Piplup looks a little like Torchic and Pachirisu resembling Pikachu. Also worth mentioning its resemblance to Treecko and all grass starters so far being reptilian? --[[User:Brats817|Brats817]] 10:10, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
:Uh... no. First of all, I don't see the resemblance. Secondly, in the two cases you cited, the resemblance is far more than superficial. Piplup and Torchic are both small bird Pokémon with ovoid heads, tiny beaks, etc. When you consider that they're the only bird-based starter Pokémon, that can make for worthwhile trivia. Pachirisu and Pikachu are obviously similar—both are electric-type, small rodent Pokémon which store electricity in their cheeks... but Tsutarja is snake-or-lizard-like, while Cyndaquil is like a shrew; their eyes are noticably different... You need a little more to go on than "their heads are vaguely similar in shape (if you squint)." {{unsigned|AndyPKMN}}

Well the only reason I mentioned it is only because their heads were similar, and that was the only similarity they have and I thought it would be worth mentioning that one similarity. They don't have to be based on the same animal in order to have a similarity somewhere. (Well of course except for color, that isn't enough of a similarity) Tsutarja's head IS similar shaped to Cyndaquil's head, but only the facial features are different, apart from the nose and mouth being in a similar location on their face. If Piplup's head was differently shaped and had different facial features, it probably wouldn't have been compared to Torchic, and if Pachirisu had no cheek pouches, it probably wouldn't be compared with Pikachu. The only other similarity is that they are birds and rodents, but different species. It's like comparing Taillow to Spearow. But if Cyndaquil and Tsutarja's head shape is not enough to mention as it's their one and only similarity, would it still be enough to mention that all grass type starters so far are reptilian? (Probably best to put it in the starter Pokémon section) Oh and you forgot to sign your comment. --[[User:Brats817|Brats817]] 21:51, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
:I don't see any resemblance at all. I think those other resemblance points should be removed too, save for Lapras/Shellos, as many people did believe they were related by evolution before Gastrodon was revealed. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 22:04, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

== Learnset ==

We have a beggining of Learnset by levelling-up about Tsutarja (as well as [[Pokabu]], [[Mijumaru]], [[Zorua]], [[Zoroark]], [[Reshiram]], [[Zekrom]], [[Moguryu]] and all the other ones) in German at [http://www.pokewiki.de http://www.pokewiki.de] {{unsigned|Wolfy Harfleur 76700}}

== Chlorophyll ==

Is it worth noting that even though it's Pokédex entry states that it's movements sharpen in sunlight, it cannot have the ability [[Chlorophyll_(ability)|Chlorophyll]]? {{unsigned|Pawsrent}}
:I don't know. With that new Dream World feature, which gives Pokémon new abilities, Tsutarja could be able to get Chlorophyll as a second ability. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 20:50, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

== Updated origin ==

Tsutarja is most likely based on ''{{wp|Oxybelis fulgidus}}'', a slender snake with a pointed head that inhabits {{wp|Central America}} and {{wp|South America}}. The Pokémon's combination of snake- and lizard-like features is also similar to that of the {{wp|skink}}, more specifically the {{wp|Neoseps}}. Neoseps heavilly resemble snakes but have small, stubby legs. Its head and general body shape, as well as its protrusions on its shoulders, are most likely based on the {{wp|Strelitzia|birds of paradise flowers}} and possibly the {{wp|Heliconia|false birds of paradise}}.

[[User:050294|050294]] 00:06, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

==National Pokedex # ==

Won't Victini come before it on the national pokedex making it #455?[[User:Captian Obvious|Captian Obvious]] 18:05, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
:No, it's {{p|Carnivine}}.--[[User:Dennou Zenshi|でんのう]] ☢ [[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|'''Z'''えんし]] 18:06, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
::He means 495, and actually, all we know is that Victini is before Tsutarja in the Isshu Dex, we don't know if they may give Victini a number with the legends since Victini is a legend itself. D: --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 18:08, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
:::The National Dex order doesn't always follow the Region Dex order. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 18:44, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
::::I'm personally of the theory that Victini may even be #000 (inter)nationally. Of course, you could've just scrolled up, since I addressed this when we were told Victini is #000. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:11, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

== A little more on origin ==

I know it's a bit early to say this, but after seeing the leaked evolutions, I've noticed that the middle evolution seems to have much smaller, deformed limbs, as if it was transitioning to losing its limbs for the final evolution which is more snake-like. Thinking a bit, according to the fossil record, some snakes are descendants of lizards. Meaning it was likely that snakes used to have limbs and eventually lost them as the populations evolved. Tsutarja's evolutions seems to reference that.

Would this be notable to mention in the evolutions' articles? [[User:Rai Marshall|Rai Marshall]] 01:19, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

Oh look, someone agrees with me. I, too, believe that that Tsutarja is based of off actual evolution, considering that Janoby has smaller limbs than Tsutarja, and the final evo shall have even smaller limbs, if any at all. Most starter evos appear to based on them growing up than real evolution. Tsutarja's doesn't. [[User:Phoen|Black, White, and.... Purple?!? (Phoen!)]] 18:51, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

:Losing limbs can happen during a creatures life-cycle. Some species of skinks do lose their arms and legs once they reach adulthood and even more familiar; catterpiler(12 limbs) >> Buterfly(6 limbs). Just thaught I should point that out. [[User:EpicShadow|EpicShadow]] 19:09, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

== Tsutarja and the evolution were made from the image of the Europe and America. ==

It is described to the developer interview of the magazine named pokemon pia. [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 17:58, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

It supplements. It is described by the developer, it is "和洋中(wayouchuu)".

Mijumaru 和(Japan).　Tsutarja 洋(Europe and America).　Pokabu 中(China).

"洋" has a hard time translating because it is vague. It is explained, "Foreign country" and "Europe and America" in wiktionary. [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 19:25, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

:On this topic, I noticed something just now. Looking at [http://pokebeach.com/news/0910/bwpia_draw06.jpg this image] from Pokébeach, it seems Tsutarja has got a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fleur-de-lis Fleur-de-lis] design on the back of his neck/collar. Just reading the Wiki article reminds me of Tsutarja. Anyone else agree? [[User:Jo The Marten|Jo The Marten]] 04:07, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
::I think you may be on to somthing, it was stated that Tsutarja's persanality was based on French royalty so that is most lkely what it is supposed to be. I would put that under apperance, somthing like (The Yellow markings on Tsutarja's back are reminiscent of the Fleur-de-lis). {{unsigned|EpicShadow}}
::洋 means "western" (as used from a Japanese/Asian perspective), at least in this case it definitely does. (和食 means "Japanese food", 洋食 means "Western food") [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 13:52, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

== Anime ==

[[File:Tsutarja-anime.png|thumb|left|250px|Tsutarja in the anime]]
Does this deserve to be added to the anime section of the page? I think it would definetly be an improvement from having nothing. Maybe also adding that Shooti owns one that battles Ash's Pikachu in the first episode. [[User:Shokuwarrior|Shokuwarrior]] 13:01, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
:Did you have to add a picture that looks exactly like the one I use on my profile? (cept png) [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 13:04, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
:: well this one is better quality which, I thought, is always better. [[User:Shokuwarrior|Shokuwarrior]] 13:09, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

== Evolution... ==

Uh.....///... I'm probably late with this, (epicly :O) but... his evo was announced, Janobii, and it hasn't been added to his evolutionary line, nor has a page been created.... I think. >.> --[[User:Weruioh Star|Weruioh Star]] 21:14, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:They aren't totally confirmed. By the way, its called Janoby here. The page can be found [[User:SnorlaxMonster/Janoby (Pokémon)|here]][[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 21:16, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
::http://shellspider.blog101.fc2.com/blog-entry-253.html Actually it has been proven [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 21:21, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
IT HASH BEN PROVEN!!! ...See? :D *shot* --[[User:Weruioh Star|Weruioh]] ★ [[User talk:Weruioh Star|Star]] 21:24, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:I really didn't see that. Doesn't really matter though. I don't have authority here. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 21:26, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
::One's sitting in the userspace. We'll put it in as soon as we're significantly convinced. Remember Aobasu? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:17, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

:::The evolutions were even shown on Oha Suta today when they showcased the CoroCoro issue. Why is Bulbapedia so reluctant on posting them after THIS much confirmation? Surely you don't despise the starter evos to this extent? [[User:Marlowe|Marlowe]] 23:29, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:::: It was? if that doesnt confirm it I don't know what will...[[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 23:30, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::It isn't because we hate it. It's because Bulbapedia has seen a previous generation go by, as well as the CoroCoro fake, which made Giruja {{tt|fake|sadly}}. I do believe this is enough confirmation now.[[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 23:36, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
::::::I think what we’re all forgetting is that Janoby, and Futachimaru, both appeared in the concept art for the anime. I would say that is more than enough proof for those two. Chaobu however… well we’ll have to wait for that one, but it is still very likely to be real. [[User:EpicShadow|EpicShadow]] 23:47, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::::It's...already...been confirmed to be real [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 23:57, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Since they're confirmed beyond all doubts at this point, I'd say we go ahead and give them pages. [[User:Marlowe|Marlowe]] 00:15, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
:I'm saying we mainspace them now. They're confirmed. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 08:33, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

http://www.pokemon.jp/portal/member/bw/pokemon/img/p30.jpg
http://www.pokemon.jp/portal/member/bw/pokemon/img/p31.jpg
http://www.pokemon.jp/portal/member/bw/pokemon/img/p32.jpg

Taken from the official site itself. They're as real as real can be. [[User:Marlowe|Marlowe]] 11:39, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

== Trivia ==

Should be noted that Tsutarja is the first grass starter that is not in the first Pokémon in the regional Pokédex? [[User:Masatoshi|'''Masatoshi: Gen. II>All.''']] [[User talk:Masatoshi|'''''Discuss.''''']] 19:57, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
:Done. --'''[[User:EpicShadow|Epic]][[User talk:EpicShadow|Shadow]]''' 20:36, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

== Starters.. ==

Hi (:. Weren't the Isshu startes a gift from the player's mum or something? I was almost totally sure.. I'd add it but I don't want to mess up with info that I don't know for sure.. Please answer :D. Thank you![[User:YukitoOoO|YukitoOoO]] 05:00, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:The letter on the box is signed by Araragi. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 06:35, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
::I see, cool. Thanks :D. [[User:YukitoOoO|YukitoOoO]] 06:48, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

== On the origin (again) ==

The article states that "Tsutarja may be based on Oxybelis fulgidus, a slender snake with a pointed head that inhabits Central America and South America." It may be so, but in my opinion it more closely resembles an Asian snake {{wp|Ahaetulla nasuta}} especially at the head. Both have same "sharp", pointed nose and the eyes are also quite similar, at least in my opinion. --[[User:Lorem of ipsums|Lorem of ipsums]] 16:05, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

== Possible Origin? ==

I was thinking that Tsutarja and its evolutionary line may be based off of the serpent from the Garden of Eden story. Seeing as God cursed the serpent to crawl on its belly and lose its legs, I figure that Tsutarja's progression throughout its evolution might reflect upon this. It's just an opinion, but I think it might be interesting to add. [[User:Omnis|Omnis]] 21:39, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
: It has a confirmed origin already..and I don't think that they would base it on that..[[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 21:58, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
::Just because it has one confirmed origin doesn't mean that it has to ONLY be based on one. This actually seems like a plausible origin. - [[User:050294|050294]] 22:05, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

== Resemblance to this snake! ==
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahaetulla_nasuta Look here at this long nosed whip snake. Doesn't Tsutarja's family have a similar head shape? Would this be worth mentioning in their origin sections? Be sure to look at all pictures of that snake in the section. Has a thin head and long skinny snout. --[[User:Brats817|Brats817]] 04:35, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

== Protection ==
I know that the English names will be revealed today, but for how long will it be protected? ♢ [[User:DeadUniverse|DeadUniverse]] [[User talk:DeadUniverse|Hello!]] ♢ 16:50, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
:Speaking of which, the name is Snivy, as said [http://www.pokemonblackwhite.com/en-us/the-starter-pokemon/ on the official site]. It's [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig A]]! [[User talk:Turtwig A|My talk]] or [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|wiki edits]] 23:01, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

== Small addition to name origin ==

I know it says that Snivy is a mix between "snake" and "ivy", but couldn't the word "snide" be part of it as well? [[User:Omnis|Omnis]] 23:57, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
:It could also come from "snob" given Snivy's calm, and smug (XD), nature. --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 03:54, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

==Very Hasty Editor==

They changed the link to the Tsutarja picture to say Snivy, breaking the link. they also changed the Japanese name in the info box to also say snivy. [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]]) 00:20, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
: Also, I'm sure that the romanization of "tsutaaja" is not Snivy. That's a pretty big stretch, even for Game Freak. [[User:Ztobor|Ztobor]] 01:03, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
:: Wait, crap, TorchicBlaziken already said that. T_T [[User:Ztobor|Ztobor]] 01:04, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
::snivy is the rominization for tsujujo. wow, i'm fergatin hs nme lrde.--[[User:Ethan brendan lucas|Ethan brendan lucas]] 01:24, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
::: They fixed it, but to "Tsu'''j'''arja." [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]]) 01:32, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
:::: Finally fixed. [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]]) 02:02, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Generation V

2010-11-10T20:12:42Z

Mackinz: /* Why some classics arent in the regionnal dex */

{{forums notice|March 31, 2011}}

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==Any References?==
With the impending release of [[Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver]] in America, can someone keep an eye out for any in-game references to Gen. V? Much appreciated. [[User:The Jigglypuff Ninja|The Jigglypuff Ninja]] 01:04, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
:I doubt there are any references to Gen V in HGSS. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 01:09, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
::And I ''highly'' doubt that NoA would change the script to add such references in. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 01:09, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Any references will probably be in the new Ranger game. Although the Lock Capsule is probably related to something in Generation V.--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 01:11, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
::::It's a Gen IV event item. Likely gonna be for a Gen IV event. Think: what hasn't been released yet? Could be Celebi... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:04, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::At the risk of dragging this out too far (this is quickly becoming something that'd fit on the forums), hackers would have found a Celebi Event in the coding, but no one has. Add in that PokeBeach reports that it seems to have similar transfer data as the Manaphy Egg, and it seems like it's supposed to be transferred out of HGSS into a new game... but I digress. We have no proof either way.--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 05:03, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::The question is... how would it be obtained in the first place? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:40, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

==Jumping the Gun a bit?==
Are you guys sure we aren't looking into this a bit too far? All we have for clues are that they announced a new game and a new *something*. Not to mention it says it's gonna be new on the DS. What's to be sure of all of that? For all we know, the new game could be MindCrystal, the silhouette could be a new Forme like the last 5 that were announced. The new game could be a wii sequel to Pokemon XD:Gale of Darkness. If we can't even have Pokemon evolved editing pages when they're in the titles of episodes, why can we just up and announce a new generation? I mean, Pokebeach even said the silhouette isn't Z, what makes anyone certain it's Generation V?[[User:SLE_aman|SLE_]][[User:SLE_aman/talk|aman]] 11:53, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
:What does Pokebeach have to do with anything? We know this is Gen V because Masuda SAID it is a new Pokémon. Nothing in this article says that this Pokémon is Z. Because we don't know that. All we know is that it is a new Pokémon. To think otherwise... well, you're in denial big time. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 12:14, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
::The original announcement talked about the popularity of Diamond and Pearl before saying this game will be set in a new region with new Pokémon. What more evidence do you need? --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 12:36, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

:::Well, technically, the RPG announcement never explicitly said it would be main series. Even though Generation V Pokémon were hinted, it was never explicitly said that it was the full-fledged generation. It also never explicitly said it would be a pair, either. There are RPGs other than the main series, and they could use a side-series RPG to give Generation V-based cameos to increase anticipation for the full-fledged generation to come at a later date (much like Mystery Dungeon 1 did). Recent announcements pretty much excludes the possibility of it being a Ranger 4, but it's still possible that it could be a Mystery Dungeon 5 or something completely different than anything we've seen before. My [[$1|2¢]]: Odds are the TBA 2010 thing is not for the full-fledged Generation V. Especially if the RPG announcement turns out to be for a single. They've faked us out before, and even if the silhouette does turn out legitimate, it's probably still too early to be thinking full-fledged Generation V. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 18:19, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

::::Actually, I've seen a subb'ed version. Masuda specifically said "We're working on a new generation of pokémon" --[[User:Camzoman]]
::::Yeah. And nowhere in that did it explicitly say that was the TBA 2010 project. They can be working on a new generation of Pokémon, yet still announce and release side games relating mainly to the previous generation. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 19:34, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::Camzoman, where exactly did you see this subbed version? I did not hear Masuda mention a "new generation" anywhere in the video - what he said was "we're developing a brand-new work for Pokemon." However, I don't think there's any denying at this point that it is indeed the new generation. The [http://www.corocoro.tv/pokerelease/index.html Corocoro site] doesn't seem to be implying that this is a side game (not that Game Freak makes side games to begin with). It's a new version(s), with a new setting, new Pokemon, new features... sounds like a new generation to me. :/ [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 19:54, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::Japanese doesn't have a plural so the "he only said one" argument doesn't hold. [[n:New Pokémon RPG announced|Just look at the information we have]]. It's obviously Generation V. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 12:12, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
::::Anyway, the CoroCoro scans for Zoroark fit the silhouette from Pokémon Sunday.--[[User:Crazylegs24]]

== Why is this page protected? ==
Why is this page protected? --[[User:?????|Any]] [[User talk:?????|Questions]][[User:?????|?????]] 18:34, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
:Think about it.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 18:37, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
::<nowiki>*</nowiki>cough*Speculation*cough* [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 18:41, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Because someone is 100% likely going to put what they think the new Pokémon is, probably saying it's Mightyena's evolution or something, if it isn't protected. That is speculation, something that isn't allowed here in the mainspace. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 22:21, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
::::It is not a good sign when a question like this needs to be asked.--[[user:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] We are the Void 22:43, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::That against us or against the users who'd make crappy speculative edits? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:22, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::It's against users who don't realise why it should be protected...--[[user:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] We lie in wait...... 14:31, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::...same thing? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:29, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Arguable.--[[user:Mtn otter|Mtn otter]] We lie in wait...... 13:13, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::Would it not be better to make this page "semi-protected" so that only established users can edit? There are plenty of established users who are not administrators, whom I'm sure would want to contribute to such a monumental article. [[User:Kidburla|Kidburla]] 09:55, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
:That wouldn't stop speculation from incurring. If you have any confirmed evidence, ask for it here.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 10:12, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

== Generation V Pokémon Infobox, anyone? ==

I know you'll probably all find this pointless, but I decided to throw together a [[Template:PokémonInfoboxGenV|temporary infobox]] to use for the Generation V Pokémon articles. It's basically a stripped-down version of the regular infobox that leaves out all the fields for any technical stuff (Egg groups, EXP yield, Gender ratios, etc.) that's unlikely to be revealed until ''Pokémon V'' comes out later this year. I also created a [[User:Quagbert/Z (Pokémon)|user-subpage for the silhouetted mystery Pokémon]] that uses a [[Template:PokémonInfoboxGenVNoncat|non-categorizing version]] of this template.

''Thanks to {{u|PsychicRider}} for making me aware of the original non-categorizing Pokémon infobox.'' [[User:Quagbert|Quagbert]] 00:49, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

==Masamitsu Hidaka==

Should [[Masamitsu Hidaka]] be mentioned since that interview kind of confirmed Generation V? --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 05:50, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

== Unlink ==

Can somebody please unlink "Generation V Pokémon"? It's a redlink right now. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 13:52, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

== This just in! ==

Serebii.net just confirmed the first two Fifth Generation Pokémon! Go check it out! :) --[[User:Dialgafan1|Dialgafan1]] 14:21, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
:Serebii.net didn't. Leaked scans did. Also, the first one was already revealed. The second one was revealed to be before it in their evolutionary line. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 14:22, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
::I think yu're probably going to need to find this information from another source. It seems like the users here have some sort of vendetta against Serebii.--[[User:Skaisdead|Skaisdead]] 14:29, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
:::It is officially confirmed. It was from a different source. It was from scans. You can see bulbanews's draft. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 14:31, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
::::We don't have any vendetta against Serebii. He just isn't the source in this case - CoroCoro is. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 15:01, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Either way, it's confirmed right? I'd love to update the page, but it's locked. *ahem*
''[[User:Chosen|Chosen]] of [[User talk:Chosen|Mana]]'' [[User:Chosen|-]] 15:15, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

[[File:CoroCoro March 1.jpg|thumb]]

Here's the picture! --[[User:Dialgafan1|Dialgafan1]] 15:19, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Alright, these two Pokémon have been offically confirmed by the leaked CoroCoro scans, but apparently it's still considered too early to put up the Bulbapedia articles for them. Is there some additional form of conformation that we're waiting for?

Anyway, I already have {{p|Zorua}} and {{p|Zoroark}} in my userspace ready to be moved to the main space when we're finally allowed to do so. [[User:Quagbert|Quagbert]] 17:07, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
:It's probably due to lack of information. I assume that when its ability/abilities and/or base stats are revealed it will be moved. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 17:16, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
::IIRC, none of that sort of information (especially base stats) was revealed for the Generation IV Pokémon until the actual release of Diamond/Pearl, or shortly before, though we still had mainspace articles for them anyway. This means it'd be months before we move Zorua/Zoroark into the mainspace. [[User:Quagbert|Quagbert]] 17:31, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
:::Actually, according to serebii, they're supposed to be revealed next month. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 18:45, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

== Related Pokémon ==

On the page, it says that it has noteable links with the Riolu and Poochyena families. If it's definitely pure dark type then just ignore this, but couldn't it be an alternative to the Vulpix family? --[[User:Herachu|Herachu]] 22:07, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
: I agree. --[[User:Kimori-Hinoarashi|i herd u liek Treakos?]] 00:10, 12 February 2010 (UTC) [[User:Kimori-Hinoarashi|Kimori-]][[User talk:Kimori-Hinoarashi|Hinoarashi]]

== New Pokémon template ==

Based partly on the {{template|DP episode}} template, I've decided to make a [[Template:NewPokémon|new Pokémon template]] to use the next time a new Pokémon is revealed. The code would go like this:
<pre>
{{subst:NewPokémon|main|Jp. Katakana name|Romanized Jp. name|
typen= (number of types) |
type1= (first type) |
type2= (second type) |
pron= (name's pronunciation) |
jspecies= (species in Japanese) |
species= (species, aka "____ Pokémon")
image= (filename of image) |
caption= (caption for said image) |
height-m= (height in meters) |
weight-kg= (weight in kilograms) |
prev= (previous Pokémon's (i.e. pre-evolution) name, Arceus by default) |
prevnum= (previous Pokémon's National Dex #, 493 by default) |
next= (next Pokémon's (i.e. evolved form) name, Bulbasaur by default) |
nextnum= (next Pokémon's National Dex #, 001 by default) |
}}
</pre>
Those who want to use this template for their own userspace should replace "main" in the top line with "user", so that those user sub-pages aren't categorized with the genuine Pokémon articles in the main space. [[User:Quagbert|Quagbert]] 01:04, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

== Take away part in introduction ==

It says that it is unknown whether the new games will be contemporaneous with any of the other games. I beg to differ. Pokemon Sunday officially stated that Zoroark lives in a "New Area". Or is it just saying that it is unknown whether it will be possible to travel to another region? Spenfen
:Contemporaneous means at the same time. Like how RBY and RSE are at the same time, and so is GSC and DPPt. It has nothing to do with location.--[[User:Goukazaru|Gou]] 18:08, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

== Japanese Gen. 5 page ==
I have a good link to a japanese page on the Generation 5 games here: [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/info/game/g100215_03.html].--[[User:Christopher Costello|Christopher Costello]] 01:14, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
:That's kinda where we got all of our information. Pokémon.co.jp and the Japanese Pokémon variety shows. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:41, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

== Interwiki link to Pokéteca ==

Now that there's an article about [[:es:Quinta Generación|Generation V on Pokéteca]], can someone add it the interwiki link to it, please? --[[User:Blaziken257|'''Blaz''']][[User talk:Blaziken257|'''iken''']][[Special:Contributions/Blaziken257|'''257''']] 03:19, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

== Two New Generation V Pokémon Scan !!! ==

Hey guys, I got this '''EPIC''' magazine scan featuring two new evolutions of Delibird and Farfetch'd from Generation V and it seems 100% real. {{unsigned|Adyniz}}
:It's not. Notice how I protected the hell out of those names ''before Zoroark and Zorua were revealed''. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:08, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
::Does that mean this scan is a fake one? --♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 07:11, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
:::The screenshot is obviously fake if you couldn't tell. That should have given it away easily. So yes, it is fake. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jel]][[User Talk:Jello|lo]] 07:29, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
::::Lol, man I am dumb.
::::'''Source''': http://www.pokemondarkay.net/{{unsigned|Adyniz}}
:::::Looks pretty real. [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK Leiks Lucario and The Celebi Glitch]] 11:00, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::Well it may look real but I've seen things in my days done in Photoshop that looked very real. Can someone translate or is there even any legit source? I don't read Spanish nor Japanese. [[User:.insomniac.|inso]]m[[User_talk:.insomniac.|niac]] 11:05, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Since it's already been confirmed as fake, please take further discussion regarding the scan to the {{tt|forums|Not the Bulbapedia forum.}}. Thanks, - [[User:Kogoro|'''<sc>Kogoro</sc>''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<sc>Talk to me</sc>''']] - 11:08, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

== [[Nintendo 3DS]] ==

It's very likely that these new games will be on the 3DS, so can someone remove the statement saying that the games ''will'' be released on the regular DS?--'''[[User:Immewnity|''immewnity'']][[User talk:Immewnity|the]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|mew]]''' 00:22, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
:[[Generation II]] ahoy. The press release said DS. Not 3DS. 3DS comes out NEXT YEAR. These come out THIS YEAR. Nintendo's not ''stupid''. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:54, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
::It could be released before Christmas in Japan so there is the potential for the game to be on 3DS. But that's purely guesswork at the moment and it could still be a DS game even if the 3DS is implemented so we go with the only source on the matter - the original announcement which said it will be on the DS. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 11:27, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
:::Or, as in Generation II, the games could be programmed with 3DS enhancements, yet still be playable on the DS. Nonetheless, until something official states that they will utilize the 3DS, any mention of it is speculation at best. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 14:23, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::Technically, TTEchidna, the page that announced the 3DS stated that it would be released sometime between now and next April, so that doesn't mean next year.
[[User:DarthMartian7|DarthMartian7]] 23:50, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

== Current Length ==

The days have weird numbers, can an administrator fix them? Thanks. [[User:Dialgafan1|Dialgafan1]] 21:23, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
:They're automatically calculated by the template... —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 06:38, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
::But the games haven't been released yet. I think it's too early to say that Generation V has started. [[User:Fudgenuggets|Fudgenuggets]] 22:16, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
:::It hasn't started yet. It starts in 0.8 days according to those numbers. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 03:22, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
::::It's because it's calculated weirdly. Once we have a ''date'', we'll put that in, and it'll look right. Until then, DECIMALLLLLLLLLL '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:34, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

== Uploaded player sprite ==

[[File:GenV.player.front.png‎]] [[File:GenV.player.side.png‎]]

I got the player sprite and uploaded it to the archives... I guess if someone can find a place for it on the article, well, there it is!

Actually, now that I see them side-by-side, it looks like the front-facing sprite on the left is the male character while the right-facing sprite on the right is the female character. Any ideas? - [[User:Nick15|Nick15]] 02:01, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
:1) This is the article for Gen V in general, not just Black and White.
:2) Do we have the overworld sprites from the past games anywhere? The characters themselves will get articles eventually but we will hopefully have Sugimori artwork released around the time that happens. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 23:09, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
::We do, but... mostly fronts. And those are animated. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:02, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
:::Well, I'm sure there's a home for those sprites... right? :) - [[User:Nick15|Nick15]] 06:58, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

== About the day count... ==

You should set it to zero, I'm not sure we'll have Pokémon B&W in -0.840277777778 days. --[[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]] 12:53, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
:But we all wish we did... [[User:Thermorules123|Thermorules123]] 11:32, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
::You mean you didn't get your game 0.840277777778 days ago? Never mind, I hacked the template to make it say better stuff. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 12:10, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
:::As long as you didn't break the template on the other four generations. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:56, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
::::I'm fairly certain I didn't. Fixed it through an optional extra parameter. Seeing as the parameter doesn't exist on the other four pages, nothing should have broken. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 05:19, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

== Gen 4 compatability ==

Shouldn't it be noted that this has been confirmed? (The upcoming Flare Blitz Entei and co can do something in gen 5) {{unsigned|Deuxhero}}
:makes sense, but since it's not officially confirmed, {{tt|we can't include it.|That's Bulbapedia's standard.}} [[User:ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[Pikachu (Pokémon)|Pikachu]] 12:44, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
::What do you mean, it hasn't been officially confirmed? It's been confirmed that the shiny legendary gerbils unlock something in BW, meaning that they are transferable to aforementioned games. Serebii.net reported on this last month. Oh wait, let me guess- Serebii.net isn't what you consider a reliable source despite only being wrong about stuff they explicitly said they weren't sure about in the first place. We also didn't add all the english names for all the HGSS stuff until it came out and proved him right. When are you guys gonna swallow your pride and admit that Serebii.net is probably the most reliable source of Pokémon information in the internet? - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 14:01, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
:::''The most reliable source of Pokémon information in the internet?'', {{tt|Hahahaha, I don't think so|I don't want to go off-topic otherwise it will be long debate}}. Anyway, wait for an official announcement before doing/adding anything. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 14:16, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
::::If I recall though it was indeed confirmed by an official source that the legendary beasts could unlock something in BW... apparently someone got their hands on the pamphlet that you get for pre-ordering the ticket and it states that the beasts unlock stuff in BW. Not sure if there's a scan of it anywhere though, I would refrain from putting it on the page if it's just his personal speculation again. ▫▫'''[[User:Tina|ティナ]]'''[[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|★]] 15:50, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::If it is added, be sure not to assume HOW the games are compatible; it's possible they could unlock something through a method other than trading or transferring. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 14:22, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::Just as a clarification, an official site has yet to specifically state "generation 4 can trade in some way with generation 5". The pamphlet in question can be seen in entirety [http://www.pokemon-movie.jp/image/tickets/print/guide.pdf here]. On page 3 there is a small section that talks about Pokemon Black/White and the last sentence of that section mentions that the 3 have a secret. This was taken to mean that the 3 unlock something in B/W obviously because it is mentioned inside the B/W section and therefore probably are able to be traded to Gen 5 in some way. Anyways, that was the logic behind "Gen 4 and 5 compatibility confirmed." Whether that is a good enough reason to be added on here or not, I don't know :p ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 16:39, 9 May 2010 (UTC))
:::::::There's ''also'' that little issue of them being ON THE DS. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:54, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
I get the concept of compatability with Gen4 but whats going to happen to the Pokedex when you get aGen5 Pokemon on a Gen4 game?([[User: Munchy Lax]] 20:33,3 June 2010 (EST)
:Well you obviously won't be able to take anything that wasn't in Gen IV back to a gen IV game. If it's a direct trade then it'll be like the time capsule in generation II. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 00:44, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

== Starters ==

Here's the image from Pokémon Sunday: [[User:Dialgafan1|Dialgafan1]] 01:49, 9 May 2010 (UTC) [[File:PokéSun May09 10.png|thumb|right]]

I can guess that the Grass Type is a Bird of Parodise Pokemon, as in the plant 'Bird of Parodise,' and also they had already done Bird based starters for [[Torchic|Fire]] and [[Piplup|Water]], and not yet Grass. If this could be true when revealed, then it will certainly complete the Bird Starters just like the Lizard Starters of [[Treeko|Grass]],[[Charmander|Fire]] and [[Totodile|Water]].
The Fire Type could may as well be a piglet for it's curley tail, and the Water Type could be another Amphibian Pokemon like [[Mudkip]]. These are just guesses, but what do you think? [[User:Cynthia149]] 17:07, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
:I think that you need to take your speculation to the forums. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 16:35, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Just for the heck of it, I have a [[User:Quagbert/No.494 (Pokémon)|draft article for the Grass starter]], which I created using the template I mentioned above. I also have startup code to create the Fire and Water starters' articles using this same template, if anyone's interested:
<pre>
Fire Starter:
{{subst:NewPokémon|main|日本語名|JP Name
|species=
|typen=1|type1=Fire
|image=
|art=|caption=Scan from [[CoroCoro]]
|height-m=
|weight-kg=
|prev=(grass starter)|next=water starter)}}

Water Starter:
{{subst:NewPokémon|main|日本語名|JP Name
|species=
|typen=1|type1=Water
|image=
|art=|caption=Scan from [[CoroCoro]]
|height-m=
|weight-kg=
|prev=(fire starter)|next=Zorua}}
</pre>
[[User:Quagbert|Quagbert]] 01:19, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

For the curious, from left to right its the Grass-type, the Fire-type, and the Water-type. [http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2010/05/12/mystery_pokemon_detailed/ Here]. Still no names or pics other though. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 14:29, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
:There's this great site called Bulbanews that has already reported that information - and with pictures, too! [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 16:54, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
::Excuuuuse me for not noticing. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 18:07, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

== "Both are canine Pokémon," ==

By which the article presumably means ''vulpine''; canine refers to dogs but Zoroa and Zoroark are/will be fox Pokémon. [[User:Smithers888|Smithers888]] 04:10, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
:Foxes are canine. Ish. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 00:09, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
::http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canidae - Canini and Vulpini are separate members of Canidae --[[User:Grinnz|Grinnz]] 18:59, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
::: I had something but might as well just ask. Aren't dogs actually Lupine, if we're going Vulpine for foxes.--[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 19:05, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

isnt lupine for wolves Iirc ([[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 19:27, 12 May 2010 (UTC))
: Dogs are in the same family as wolves. Canis Lupus, the dog is only further distinguished by Canis Lupis familiaris. But even still Canine could refer to Canidae which is what Foxes/Dogs/wolves are in. The only difference is Foxes are further classified as "Vulpine" and if we follow suit, dogs/wolves would be Lupine not Canine. And it did say some foxes (while not true foxes) could still be under the Canis Genus if that's where the Canine name comes from. But again while Canine might refer to dogs specifically, isn't that more of a general consensus, rather than a scientific consensus? I'm going scientific here, if people want to be so correct with the whole Vulpine/Canine argument. -[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 19:36, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
::Who cares, really. That section'll be gone by the end of the year. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:56, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

== Older PCs ==

[http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2010/05/12/mystery_pokemon_detailed/ Apparently], artwork shown in Coro Coro comics indicates that the Player characters aren't kids like previous generations, but are a bit older and appear to be young adults. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 14:31, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

== well heres the pics ==

I have a corocoro scan of the player characters.....

[[File:User373931 pic151409 1273683476.png|thumb|right|here they are]]
([[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 18:17, 12 May 2010 (UTC))
:The scan is from Pokebeach. I think we'd prefer it if it was your own scan. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jel]][[User Talk:Jello|lo]] 18:25, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
::Well, the beach is our buddy, too. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:24, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

== New Pokémon? ==

I found this online. It has the Pokémon Sunday picture in the corner. Does anybody know if this is the real deal or a scam?
http://nd03.blog.cz/294/620/14fe8a949a_61909769_o2.jpg
[[User:DarthMartian7|DarthMartian7]] 19:19, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

bleh...looks fake ([[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 19:25, 12 May 2010 (UTC))
:Old and fake. (btw: the text on the bottom says "the Pokemon that grasps the key to the Ruler of Illusions: Z!") [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 19:28, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
::Fail. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:54, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

== New Pokémon (CoroCoro scan) ==

Came here to upload the scan, but apparently someone else did but didn't do anything with it. Here it is: [[File:Corocoro7.jpg|right|thumb]]
This info should probably be put into the main article. [[User:Marluxia.Kyoshu|Marluxia.Kyoshu]] 20:36, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
:It's been used on News. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 20:42, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

== More info! ==

*Zorua has the Illusion ability.
*Mijumaru is 0.5m tall and weighs 5.9kg. It also has the Torrent ability.
*Tsutaaja is 0.6m tall and weighs 8.1kg. It also has the Overgrow ability.
*Pokabu is 0.6m tall and weighs 9.9kg. It also has the Blaze ability.
These should be added to the Pokémon articles--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 10:05, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

== On the use of unconfirmed information ==

<strike>We seem to have taken a whole bunch of unconfirmed information as fact here, and as it's generally not Bulbapedia policy to do so, it somewhat bothers me.

For the record, here is a list of information, much of which has been added to Bulbapedia, that I have not seen in the CoroCoro pages or any other official source (though if you have official sources with this that I have missed, please, by all means, link me):
*The name "Tsutaaja," as well as all info on it beyond the fact that it is at least partly Grass-type
*The name "Pokabu," as well as all info on it beyond the fact that it is at least partly Fire-type
*The name "Mijumaru," as well as all info on it beyond the fact that it is at least partly Water-type
*"Hiun City"
*Zoroark's ability, "Illusion"
*Those two new attacks whose names I can't be bothered to remember right now (Trickery and Claw Sharpen or something?)
*The method by which to obtain Zoroark
I have seen ''none'' of this come from official sources, only from fansites, blogs, and forums. (Hell, I could have sworn that I saw some of this in a 2ch speculation thread back in March.) The justification to their validity seems to be that the random anonymous person who posted this information on 2ch was right about other information before it was leaked, so he must be right now - but that reasoning hasn't been enough in past cases, has it?

I really wish we had kept the above-mentioned facts off of Bulbapedia until they were confirmed, but here they are. I personally think they should be removed (and the starters' pages moved into TTE's userspace or something) until they are confirmed, but a reasonable compromise, I think, would be to tag all articles that mention this information with an "unconfirmed" tag of some sort (I seem to remember a template for one, though I can't find it now...).

Any thoughts?</strike> [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 18:23, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
:They're all from CoroCoro. It's pretty undeniable. [[User:Reign|Reign]] 18:40, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
:Scratch that, I found the CoroCoro scans that apparently no one cared to share which confirmed all of this. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 18:42, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

== Starter Region ==

i would just like to say that, because of the set-up of the page, it looks like one or the regions in Gen. V is Starters. I would fix it myself, but I'm not an Admin. could an admin please change it show it looks like this

<nowiki>
==Regions==
===Isshu===
==Starters==</nowiki>

instead of this

<nowiki>
==Regions==
===Isshu===
===Starters===</nowiki> thank-you [[User:ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[Pikachu (Pokémon)|Pikachu]] 19:54, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
:If you take a look at the table of contents, you'll see that "Starter Pokémon" is a lower heading than "Isshu", as it should be, to indicate that those are the Starter Pokémon of Isshu. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:51, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
::i guess that's true. the actual part of the article is what made me confused. But looking at the Table of Contents, it is set up correctly.[[User:ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[Pikachu (Pokémon)|Pikachu]] 23:42, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Never too early to have the article set up like the rest. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:53, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

==Legendary Pokémon==
I saw two new Pokémon looks like the legendaries at the Pokémon english official site (names+artworks). Their names are Reshiram and Zekrom. I don't know if these informations are useful but... -[[User:Caciulacdlac|Caciulacdlac]]
:Already a page on Bulbanews. Also, since it's breaking news, admins, may not have had time to add it in. [[User:ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[Pikachu (Pokémon)|Pikachu]] 18:03, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
:If anyone's interested, I have userspace draft articles for [[User:Quagbert/Reshiram|Reshiram]] and [[User:Quagbert/Zekrom|Zekrom]]. I just made them as draft articles since I'm not sure if it's appropriate yet to put them in the mainspace, but when it is, any admin is free to move them (or give me the OK to do so). [[User:Quagbert|Quagbert]] 20:40, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
:I may as well mention that {{user|Jello}} also has draft articles as well: [[User:Jello/Sandbox/Reshiram (Pokémon)|Reshiram]], [[User:Jello/Sandbox/Zekrom (Pokémon)|Zekrom]] [[User:Quagbert|Quagbert]] 20:47, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
::Hi, I'm new here, but I just wanted to add a little bit of information about the names, if it hasn't been done already. In Reshiram's name, the shiramu (シラム) comes from [http://dic.yahoo.co.jp/dsearch?enc=UTF-8&p=%E7%99%BD%E3%82%80&stype=0&dtype=0 shiramu (白む)] which means "turning white" or "growing light". In Zekrom's name, the kuromu (クロム) comes from [http://dic.yahoo.co.jp/dsearch?enc=UTF-8&p=%E9%BB%92%E3%82%80&stype=0&dtype=0 kuromu (黒む)] which means "turning black" or "tinged with darkness". They're used especially with regards to the sky, for example, "the sky grows light at dawn" or "the sky is tinged with darkness at night". Hope that helps a little. [[User:AmaranthSparrow|AmaranthSparrow]] 01:31, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Oh, and just speculating, but the Re- and Ze- could come from rei (レイ) and zero (ゼロ), two pronunciations of rei (零), which obviously means "zero". [[User:AmaranthSparrow|AmaranthSparrow]] 01:43, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
::::How come nobody's yet made the articles for Reshiram and Zekrom yet? And yet people who DO create articles at strange names to get around it, they just get deleted. Why not just move them to the proper names? - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 01:50, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::We're not satisfied with them yet. And considering tomorrow's PSunday, we'll probably get more than enough data. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:51, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::We need to put informations of the two legendaries fast, my friends are asking more things about them but I just have the basic. '''[[User:Blaze of Shadow|Blaze of Shadow]]
:::::::We can't get more info yet Blaze, tell your friends to wait.--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 04:47, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
we dont even know their secondary or primary types, we only know that they are part dragon type, so not even the most basic info we have, the article would be only a picture with nothing else.--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 07:39, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
:That is all we knew about Zoroark when he was first revealed. Type and picture. Everything else was blank. [[User:Myzou|Myzou]] 08:46, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
::He was also the first Gen. V Pokémon revealed, which is why he was such a big deal. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 14:50, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

== Five Known Pokemon? ==

The article says that five Generation V Pokemon are known, but with the announcement yesterday, seven are known. It even mentions Reshiram and Zekrom in the article. Can an admin make the edit?--[[User:Celebi96|Celebi96]] 03:52, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
:And the Zekrom page is exist. Please fix this too. -[[User:Caciulacdlac|Caciulacdlac]]
::Yeah, perhaps semi-protection would be smarter here if the admins can't afford to be on top of this at all times. [[User:Shady|'''Shady]] got [[Image:PokémonDollar.png]][[User talk:Shady|10,000]] for [[Special:Contributions/Shady|winning]]''' 15:46, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
:::The template uses the number of pages to find how many are new. After that, you have to purge the content by pressing the clock by your username to make it show seven. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 15:49, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
::::<s>I see. So the reason it reads five instead of seven is that there are no articles for Zekrom and Reshiram, and the reason there are no articles for them is because they are create-protected. The admins couldn't just create the pages and protect them? [[User:Shady|'''Shady]] got [[Image:PokémonDollar.png]][[User talk:Shady|10,000]] for [[Special:Contributions/Shady|winning]]''' 15:59, 1 June 2010 (UTC</s>
:::::Didn't realize they'd been created. I've purged the content, but it still reads five. Maybe the categories haven't been added to the new legendaries' articles? [[User:Shady|'''Shady]] got [[Image:PokémonDollar.png]][[User talk:Shady|10,000]] for [[Special:Contributions/Shady|winning]]''' 16:01, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
::::::It's likely because of your cache, maybe? The generation infobox reads new Pokemon as the amount of articles in [[:Category:Generation V Pokémon]], it doesn't need to be manually updated. We apologize for any inconvenience if we don't have new Pokemon articles up within the day they're revealed- we'd like to make sure that our articles aren't sloppily put together and include all the known info... which can be difficult at times and make us go "Hm, is one line of text and a mostly-unfilled infobox really worth an article?". Not the point, I know, but I'd just like to point that out. ▫▫'''[[User:Tina|ティナ]]'''[[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|★]] 17:12, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
No, that's not it at all. I've taken a look at the source code, and it actually reads "Currently, five Generation V Pokémon are known." No template or anything. This needs to be changed. [[User:Shady|'''Shady]] got [[Image:PokémonDollar.png]][[User talk:Shady|10,000]] for [[Special:Contributions/Shady|winning]]''' 19:58, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
:OH! You're talking about the infobox! We've been talking about the specific text in the article, under the "Currently known Pokémon" section. [[User:Shady|'''Shady]] got [[Image:PokémonDollar.png]][[User talk:Shady|10,000]] for [[Special:Contributions/Shady|winning]]''' 20:00, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

==The Order==

Someone have thinged what is the right order of Zoroa,Zoroark,Reshiram and Zekram? when the numbers be show we need to make the right order. [[User:Blaze of Shadow]] 23:30, 1 June 2010
:Please make more sense.--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 05:02, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
::We don't know what numbers they are because we don't know how high the regional dex is going to go. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:56, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
:::I don't think Blaze is talking about specific dex numbers, just general placement, i.e. we can assume that Zekrom and Reshiram will be near the end of the dex, but we can't confirm anything right now. [[User:Shady|'''Shady]] got [[Image:PokémonDollar.png]][[User talk:Shady|10,000]] for [[Special:Contributions/Shady|winning]]''' 14:33, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

==July 2010 New Pokémon==
I just whipped a [[User:Quagbert/Chiraamii (Pokémon)|draft article for Chirāmī]] based on the scans that just leaked out. I only did Chirāmī since that's the only one we have a decent amount of clear info on. Perhaps in the future we may want to take any more new Gen V Pokémon discussion {{tt|over here|Category talk:Generation V Pokémon}} and leave this talk page for other Gen V stuff, though that just my suggestion. [[User:Quagbert|Quagbert]] 12:05, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

== Hiragana vs. Kanji ==

"''Kanji are now used in game menus and text, in addition to the hiragana and katakana used in the previous four generations.''" >> Not saying that this statement is false but could someone point me to a known instance of the games where kanji is used more prominently? I know that it has been used for some things already since Gen I, like the prices in the Japanese versions using the kanji for yen, but this seems to refer to a greater use of the kanji throughout the dialogues... [[User:Pokemon lover|ポケモン]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|あいこうか]] 17:45, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
:If I recall correctly, Colo/XD also uses kanji... I think PBR and Stadium ''miiight'', but I'm not sure. There's also kanji in the TCG GB games. I might be missing a few...
:However, this is the first time that a main series handheld game has used kanji in dialogue- the only screenshot I can recall seeing it though was the intro with [http://www.pokemon-sp.jp/series/bw/#/characters/characters02.html Prof Araragi and Chirami]. It's assumed to be a toggle of sorts seeing as there's other dialogue screenshots with just kana. ▫▫'''[[User:Tina|ティナ]]'''[[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|★]] 17:55, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
::I was referring specifically to BW, though, but thanks for the info you provided. xD Well, it does really seem to be an optional element, since I didn't notice kanji in any of the footage before, not even that one of Prof. Araragi and Chiramii... [[User:Pokemon lover|ポケモン]][[User talk:Pokemon lover|あいこうか]] 18:26, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
:::Yes, according to the new Iwata Asks[http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ds/interview/irbj/vol1/index.html#list] there is going to be both a hiragana mode and a kanji mode. I suggest changing "''Kanji are now used in game menus and text, in addition to the hiragana and katakana used in the previous four generations.''" to something like "''Aside from the usual game menus and text in {{wp|hiragana}} and {{wp|katakana}}, there is now also the option of a {{wp|kanji}} mode. While hiragana and katakana made the Pokémon series accessible to elementary school kids, the optional texts mixed with kanji now also make the games easier to pick up for older teens and adults.''" As opposed to the present version, this makes clear that there is the '''option''' of kanji, and explains the effects of the new kanji mode to those unknown to the Japanese writing system. --[[User:BlackySully|BlackySully]] 12:46, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

== Named after colors ==

Trivia mentions that black and white are colors, technically they're not colors. I think it should be reworded to say that the titles were the first since Generation I (or II, since gold and silver can be colors) to not be named after a gemstone or a mineral. [[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]] 18:41, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
:Technically, they '''are''' colors. Technically, they are not hues - they are shades. This terminology is used in most artistic endeavors, except lighting, where white and black are the presence or absence of light, but that's neither here nor there. These are colors. However, I agree that silver and gold are also colors, but I think it's pretty clear what was meant in the article. [[User:Jazzmoth|Jazzmoth]] 14:23, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

== Pokemon currently known ==

By my latest tally, including the pokemon recently released, their are now about 20 with names and around 3 more that still remain unnamed, should anyone make an edit of this. {{unsigned|InferSizMamoMagne}}
:There are fourteen named Pokémon; these are the ones that are counted. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 06:49, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

i want to add koromori. but it wont let me [[User:ArceusLX|arceusLX leveled up!]] 19:46, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
:The page name has been protected because we know too little about the subject. You can quit spamming pages now, please. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 19:48, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

== The Picture ==

I'm just wondering if instead of the logos of Black and White getting put as the picture, I think that someone should just put the Japanese boxart pictures on.-- [[User:lilkaykaygal|lilkaykaygal]] 7:34, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
:The boxart is on the {{game|Black and White|s}} article. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:52, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

== advances in gameplay ==
i need to add that you can play triple battles in pokemon black and white. [[User:ArceusLX|arceusLX leveled up!]] 19:37, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
:Or someone else could add it when we know more about it. Why do ''you'' need to add it?--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 01:38, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
:Oh, nevermind, someone already put it in.--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 01:40, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
:Oh, and please fix the triple battles link - it points to ''Double_battle#Triple_battle'' as of now, while the correct would be ''Double_battle#Triple_battle'''s''''' --'''HTMLCODER.exe@bulbapedia$_ [[User:HTMLCODER.exe|/usr]][[Special:Contributions/HTMLCODER.exe|/bin]][[User_talk:HTMLCODER.exe|/apache2]] -k restart''' 11:25, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

== Starter Evos ==

I MIGHT have found the final evolutions of the starters, but they are probably fake.

Here they are: File:GenVStarterEvos.png

[[User:Mewtwo777|I am Darth Mewtwo... Fear me, and my team made entirely of Mewtwo!!!]] 17:14, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
:They're fake. (and the picture has been deleted on the Archives) <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 03:18, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

== NGamer - 157? ==

In the most recent issue of NGamer magazine UK, they said there would be 157 new Pokémon in B/W. I don't know where they could have gotten that possible fact from, but it ought to be looked into, in the event that they are telling the truth. However, NGamer have been known to put rumors down as fact, and I would predict this is false. [[User:Torngentleman2|MAMOSWINEPwnz! (Torngentleman2)]] 18:37, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
: It is a rumor that's been circulating for a while, but there hasn't been any actual evidence I'm yet aware of. --[[User:HeroicJay|HeroicJay]] 18:59, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

==season==
since seasons were confirmed to be in gen V could someone add that to this generations changes?[[User:Badwolf1234|Badwolf1234]] 20:53, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

== Colours ==

Wow, this is totally random and pointless, but I wanted to point out that the thing about these being the first games named after colours since G1 is inaccurate. All the games have been based off of colours, however, those colours also tend to be other things (metals and gems, etc.). For example, silver is a colour, gold is a colour, ruby is bright red, as it's counterparts sapphire and emerald to blue and green respectively, and so forth. I just think that it's kinda pointless to put that information int he trivia when it's not exactly true. But feel free to debate with me, I'm open for people trying to change my mind. :D

[[User:Makuta Zero|Makuta Zero]] 06:21, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

== Advances in Gameplay ==

I think that it should include that seasons will be in the games. --[[User:Mew is the Original One|Mew is the Original One]] 15:35, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

== Monochrome generation? ==

its not monochrome monochrome is 1 color black and white is already 2 it should be called the shade generation since they already said third would be grey {{Unsigned|Ares5566}}
:I'd like to inform you of a few things
:1. Sign your comments. ALWAYS

:2. "Pokémon Gre(a)y" was never confirmed

:3. Monochrome doesn't mean 1 color. It means shades of 1 color. so Monochrome and Shade are the exact same thing. [[User:ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[Pikachu (Pokémon)|Pikachu]] 02:49, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

::Just how Generation III was the Advanced Gen, why isnt this the Rebirth Gen? That is what is really is. They are having fresh new starts. Also, monochrome only applies to three games. Speculation shows that we have high chances of getting an Emerald remake (ranberth at youtbue has evidenece). In 2012, 10 anivesity; they like to remake at that time. Also, im reseaching that we might get more Gen I remakes due to 15th anivesrity. The biggest hint is that every region has included Kanto.Here is my guess...

::*2011-Black and White
::*2012-Grey
::*2012-Emerald remake
::*2013-Gen I remakes
::(they will more spaced out)
::So, with that said, i want to vote on a name! --[[User:Shaymin Master426|Shaymin Master426]] 06:01, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
:::Monochrome is accurate for now. If there are Hoenn remakes, the name can be changed. It's called what fans have chosen, and for now it's monochrome. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 06:17, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

== Needs Updated ==

This page is outdated. It needs to get updated with the latest info that has since been confirmed by last month's CoroCoro, and reconfirmed by both Pokemon Sunday & the official Site.
[[User:Shinji-San|Shinji-San]] 01:06, 24 August 2010 (UTC)Shinji-San

== The fan name is wrong ==

The page says they call it the "monochrome generation".I am an Art Major at Lord Fairfax Community College,and that name makes no sense.Monochrome "only 1 color".There are 2 versions,and also black and white are not colors.They are refered to as neutrals in art(which is the only side that has an argument in color).Also,black is the abscense of color,and white is the combination of all percieved color.That name is completely inaccurate,and should be removed from the article because it does not really relate. {{unsigned|Slyver333}}
:According to Wikipedia's article on {{wp|Monochrome}}, "For an image, the term monochrome is usually taken to mean the same as black-and-white or, more likely, grayscale..." Therefore monochrome is not incorrect here. Also, if it's here, it probably means it was used on some Japanese fansite--just because it's not "right" in art, doesn't mean it can't be used as a fan term. --[[User:Phantomjunkie|Phantom]]♫[[User talk:Phantomjunkie|Junkie]] 02:24, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
::Plus, black and white ARE colors - they aren't hues, but they are colors. In art terms, they are technically called shades and tints, respectively. Black is a shade of any color, and white is a tint of any color. As long as you're not talking about light, that makes them both colors. (When discussing colors of light, it is acceptable to refer to white as a combination of all frequencies, and black as the absence of all frequencies, but we're not in optics.) I don't know what you're art teachers are telling you, Slyver, but I'd double check your facts before trying to correct people. Different schools of thought use different terminology, and although I've never heard of the terms you use, I know the ones I learned are widely accepted. Long story short, monochrome is an acceptable term for this generation. (Monochrome can also refer to any range of shades, tints, and tones that have a single hue as their base.) [[User:Jazzmoth|ʝɑzzmotɦ]] [[User talk:Jazzmoth|❝❞]][[Special:Contributions/Jazzmoth|✎]] 21:38, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

== Number of new pokes. ==

One of the new commericals claimed over 100 new pokes ([http://pokebeach.com/2010/08/black-white-wii-commercials-reveal-many-new-scenes Pokebeach says so anyways]) would be introduced. Should we change the "Pokémon" field in the template to reflect that? Also the info on communications with gen 4 is outdated. --[[User:Deuxhero|Deuxhero]] 01:06, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

== Anthing for Trivia? ==

1.I think that with the information we have so far, we should be able to come up with some stuff for the section, at least for when it becomes editable to regular users. I noticed that this is the first Generation to not have a game where you (presumably) can't go to the Kanto region (as in Generation III, there are the Gen. I remakes, Generation IV has HeartGold and SoulSilver, where you can visit Kanto after beating the Elite Four).

2. I was wondering if anyone thinks they may make a Ruby/Sapphire remake, because Gen. III wasn't that much less advanced in terms of graphics and mechanics, so making a remake would be somewhat pointless, as you could just as easily buy the original, and considering they would have to put a lot of work into making a game that would be more or less the same in most ways(you can tell the added material in LG/FR and HG/SS is obviously needed or at least very different).

3. The new Japanese commercials for Black & White reveal another new team (as expected) and what looks like some sort of conversation thing where you get an up close look who you're talking to. Any comments?

Please respond if you would like. --[[User:BeeBwakka|BeeBwakka]] 23:43, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
:# Trivia sections aren't things that need to be filled. No-one should ever be goining around looking at a page and trying to add trivia just because the trivia section is short.
:# Talk pages aren't for general discussion. RS remake talk should be taken to {{bmgf|56930|this thread on the forums}}.
:# Can you get pictures of the commercials? It would help for confirming details. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 00:16, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
:::It's far too early to say that anything won't happen in the next four years. Yes, the chances of revisiting Kanto are less likely this time around but anything could happen in the games after BW, especially with the 3DS (which any RS remakes would be on). --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 01:17, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

Oh, sorry, I just joined so I'm new to this stuff. --[[User:BeeBwakka|BeeBwakka]] 12:29, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

== Trivia? ==

Akinator ([http://www.akinator.com here]), is a website where Akinator (the character) tries to guess any character you're thinking of (by yes-no-maybe questions). It (the site) may be a little too small to be notable (though mijumaru alone has already been tried over 140 times) but it *already* has a question "Is your character from the fifth generation of Pokemon". [[User:Kanjo|Kanjo]] 20:16, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:I don't think it would be trivia, unless it was a big site. If it should be, it should be noted that they misspelled Pokémon. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 20:37, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
::Oh god, not that thing...damn genie.. I don't think it would be trivia either...[[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 20:42, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

== Generation Length ==

Does anyone mind correcting the generation length? It says "-5 days". --[[User:MCRMY119|-DH]] 21:44, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
:Five days until, at that time. Now it says -1, because it's released on Saturday, also known as, you know... tomorrow. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:33, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

== All Pokemon Revealed. ==

http://www.serebii.net/blackwhite/pokemon.shtml[[User:Umitencho|Umitencho]] 19:17, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
:Serebii's not an official source. --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 19:24, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

== Gen V framerate ==

Shall we mention it? (For anyone curious: 30 overworld, 60 battles, title screen, 2D menus, 15 opening) [[User:Turtwig Lover|Turtwig Lover]] 15:18, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

== Do you want a title screen pic like all the generations before it? ==

Just asking. If needed, I'll produce these. [[User:Turtwig Lover|Turtwig Lover]] 13:31, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
:Yeeeahh. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:52, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
::Feel free to pick the one which's better. (http://s1096.photobucket.com/albums/g329/Jarooda/Bulbapedia%20stuff/) (That's my Photobucket!) [[User:Turtwig Lover|Turtwig Lover]] 12:10, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
:::Oh, you're Jarooda? Did not know. Um, the first and the fourth are good. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 12:14, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
::::What should I name them in Bulbagarden Archives? [[User:Turtwig Lover|Turtwig Lover]] 12:35, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::The second and the third actually have smoother edges, but this your call, Trom. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 12:38, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::Did it. What do you guys think? [[User:Turtwig Lover|Turtwig Lover]] 01:50, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::I guess they do, but I liked the dragons' poses better in the first and fourth :/ —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:21, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

== Useful source? ==

I accidentally came across this website which appears to reveal the trademarked romanji of the 646 'official' Pokémon as of now, as well as some insight on to their name origins. Is this official? --[[User:Chickasaurus|Chickasaurus]] 09:36, 8 November 2010 (UTC) [http://park3.wakwak.com/~pokepale/zukan/no/1_1_25.htm]
:It's a fan site I think, like it says on the main page "This site is Japanese Pokemon Fan Site.". [[User:Bluesun|Bluesun]] 09:41, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
::Thanks. --[[User:Chickasaurus|Chickasaurus]] 09:44, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

== Why some classics arent in the regionnal dex ==

some classics (magicarp, pikachu, geodude, abra, etc.) dont appear in isshu. why?

I think thats because they are far away from kanto/jotho/hoenn/sinnoh. maybe the pokemons of gen5 will be the standards for 3 other gens. {{unsigned|Grhaal0}}
:Game Freak has already stated that the reason old Pokémon aren't included is to give all players a fresh, new experience when playing the games. Your suggestion is speculation, which is rarely allowed and certainly doesn't take precedence over [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Wordofgod word of god]. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 15:28, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
::That brings up the question of "Why did they include old Pokemon at all". Surely a new game, set supposedly in a place half the globe away from previous games wouldn't have all these old Pokemon found in it.--[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 16:22, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
:::I've already explained to you Mackinz, the real world has some species which live in far away places (see rats, mosquitoes, etc.). I don't mean to offend, but if you're trying to bring up another debate over Isshu's basis/motif, this isn't the place. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 21:27, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
::::Not trying to start a debate. Just can't figure out for the life of me why Paras would be in New York. --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 20:12, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

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== What I mean when I say Aomori ==

Aomori has features that generally fit with the current map of Isshu, including dual large mountain ranges, a large lake, forests, extensive railroads, and cities that somewhat match up in size and location. Sure, it is missing the bridges and there's really no version of Huin City (plus you have to move that large peninsula) but it's still possible. --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 04:53, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

:The map of isshu is mysterious.

:It looks like aomori, Manhattan, and Shanghai according to the aspect. However, it doesn't completely agree to aomori, Manhattan, and Shanghai.

:It is thought that it planned so that "Game freak" may make the topicality. The game freak is a group of the satan who sets us the unending argument. [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 06:29, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

::By the size factor, Manhattan is eliminated unless the Isshu region is extremely small. I got into a big debate over this before but the Manhattan area that looks like Isshu is 35.41 km (22 mi) by 35.41 km (22mi), while Tokyo, which I assume is bigger than 35.41km x 35.41, only gets ヤマブキシティ and タマムシシティ to represent it.

::By the way, if you want someone to correct your translations, I am the one to go to. Or anyone else who writes stories. --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 07:53, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

:::http://www.gamefreak.co.jp/blog/dir/
:::Director was said yesterday. "pokemon B&W changed how to create it. "

:::The common sense of current pokemon might not apply. [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 08:12, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

::::Well, Satoshi said that a while back too. ”これはポケモンですか。”　--[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 08:14, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

::::: It was Digimon that Satoshi saw.(lol [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 09:24, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

== Tate and Liza ==

According to an old edit summary, ''Volume 17 of PokeSpecial has them in Romaji as Fu & Lan.'' That makes it an official romanisation. Bulbapedia uses official romanisations where available, even if they are technically "wrong", as that is what is used by Nintendo. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 23:23, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
:OK . It understood. Thank you for the explanation. [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 23:30, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

== すなかき ==

Sawamularさん、ちょっと頼みがありますけど・・・新特性の「すなかき」って、どういう意味だと思いますか？私は困っちゃいます。BulbanewsではSand Throw(砂を投げる)が乗っているけど私にはそれはちょっと・・・

もし分かったらどうぞ[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User:Umeko/Unreleased_abilities&action=edit&section=41 ここ]に書き変わってもいい。

では

[[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 01:58, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

:個人的には"水かき(みずかき)"と同じようなものだと思います。"水かき"とは水生動物の指の間に張られた薄膜です(水かきによって早く泳げます)。"すなかき"の能力が素早さが上がるものであれば"水かき"の言葉遊びで確定でしょうが、"すなかき"の能力が分からないので保留にしておいた方がいいんじゃないでしょうか？ [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 02:30, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
::「みずかき」か・・・そうかもね。調べたらトレカで「みずかき」は"Flipper Stroke"(水掻きで摩る・・・かも？)に訳した。こんな場合に普段過去の訳を見て適当に変わりますけどこの訳・・微妙ですねww
::しばらくローマ字の"Sunakaki"を残ってます。
::相談ありがとうございました！ [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 17:30, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

== Keito ==

"Keito" is the Japanese spelling of the Western name "Kate", still. Even if the creators named her after a plant, I don't see why we should romanize her name literally. The name has double meaning - both the plant name and the name "Kate". We shouldn't Engrish-ize her name like that just because of some plant etymology. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 09:36, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

:http://ameblo.jp/ktfo/
:Thank you for coming. A Japanese woman who introduces herself as keito exists. You may change it into Kate if there is a source. [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 09:42, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

The topic moves here. http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Talk:Hall_Matron_Argenta [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 09:51, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

== [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:Umeko#Romanization こっちに覗いてみて下さい] ==

「フラワーショップサン・トウカ」のローマ字化についての問題です。ちょっと手伝ってくれませんか？ [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 19:40, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
: 日本は今、朝の6時だよ。眠たいので拒否します。 [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 21:23, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
::ちょっｗｗｗはいはい、ご苦労さん。 [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 21:28, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

==Japanese names==
Hi Sawamular! I saw that you’re adding phrases like ''A common Japanese given name'' or ''A common Japanese surname'' to pages about characters and I really appreciate your effort. But, personally, I think that a character having a common Japanese given name in the original Japanese version is quite normal and not very notable. So, I wouldn’t add it. It’s more interesting if they have a surname instead of a given name in Japanese. 
Also, in the ''Origin'' column of ''Names'' tables we usually write about the intended meaning of names (and not other unrelated informations). Western names for characters (in English, French, German, Italian and Spanish) are chosen because they remind of words related to their features (mainly their favorite Pokémon type). So, [[Brock]] is similar to ''rock'', [[Bugsy]] is similar to ''bug'', [[Wattson]] is similar to ''watt'', [[Byron]] is similar to ''iron''. I’m not really competent about their Japanese names and I don’t know if they have some pun or hidden meaning. Some of them, apparently, seem to relate to their type. For example: ハヤト ([[Falkner]]) can be written as 隼人, トウキ ([[Brawly]]) can be written as 闘気, カゲツ ([[Sidney]]) is similar to 影, カスミ ([[Misty]]) can be written as 霞み, スモモ ([[Maylene]]) could be a reference to Sumo… 
Maybe you could help us finding if their Japanese names have a particular meaning, like their Western ones. --[[User:Siegfried|Siegfried]] 13:49, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

:Because the contribution of my effort was deleted, I got depressed.

:The character with a general Japanese name has decreased. It puts it out as an example of Gym Leader.

:It is recognized a Japanese name general almost in "Generations 1 and 2". The plant name for which the majority is used as a general Japanese name is adopted.

:However, the common sense collapses almost in "Generations 3 and 4". It becomes a plant origin from which it is not used for the name of a person. The game freak is exhausted of the idea, and this difference is interesting. [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 14:27, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

:It is people who have a general Japanese name in "Generations 1 2 3 4".

:Generations 1 Brock(takeshi) Misty(Kasumi) Erika(Erika) Koga(kyo) Sabrina(Natsume) Blaine(katsura) Giovanni(sakaki)

:Generations 2 Falkner(hayato) Whitney(Akane) Morty(Matsuba) Chuck(Shijima) Pryce(Yanagi) Clair(Ibuki)

:Generations 3 0

:Generations 4 0

:It decreases obviously. Explaining "A common Japanese surname and given name" "doesn't seem to be valueless. [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 15:36, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Even if this insistence is done to Mr. Siegfried, it is improper. I seem to be terribly tired. I make an effort if I might be able to contribute to the origin of the name. [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 17:36, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

:Interesting analysis. I think I don't fully understand your definition of "general Japanese name". Are you saying that nobody in Japan is called Tsutsuji, Touki, Tessen, Asuna, Senri, Kagetsu, Sumomo, Suzuna, Natane or Kikuno? As I said before, I'm not competent about Japanese given names. But to me, some of them seem possible Japanese given names. Are you saying that they are just words and not legitimate Japanese given names? If so, I think it could be noted in their page. However I think that normal Japanese names shouldn't be noted as such. Good luck with the name puns in Japanese! --[[User:Siegfried|Siegfried]] 17:58, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

::Kikuno is a general Japanese surname. It doesn't enter the above-mentioned because it is Elite Four. I insist that it is a general Japanese name if the name of the person is retrieved on the Internet and two or more people come out(Only the real person).

::"Tsutsuji, Touki, Tessen, Asuna, Senri, Kagetsu, Sumomo, Suzuna, Natane"
::There might be a Japanese of the name like the above-mentioned. The number of parents who give a strange name increases recently. I felt it like a usual name of touki. However, the real person was not retrieved when examining it. [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 18:55, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

== Translation ==

多種でも遠くから見たときに、１種類に見えるような地方である、ということから「イッシュ」と名付けました。'''その感じもニューヨークにすごく近いんです。'''

You translated as "outlook on the world of isshu is near NY."

Is it a better translation to say "It is similar in feeling to New York."?

My Japanese is a bit rusty so...

--[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 03:34, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

: "It is similar in feeling to New York." This is a little different.
: "I feel very close to New York". This is completely corresponding. [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 03:50, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

== Regarding the use of loanwords ==

This is a touchy subject that I don't know much about, myself.

Could you, in Japanese as it is easier for you, explain loanwords?

Like in the case of the interview using the English loanword, motif.

--[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 19:31, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

:Explanation of motif in Japan.

:http://dic.yahoo.co.jp/dsearch/0/0na/22287718255000/
:文学・美術などで、創作の動機となった主要な思想や題材。
:The main thought and theme that became motive of creation.

:http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%A2%E3%83%81%E3%83%BC%E3%83%95
:絵画・彫刻などの芸術作品で、表現の動機・きっかけとなった、中心的な思想・思い
:Thought that becomes motive of production.

:http://d.hatena.ne.jp/keyword/%A5%E2%A5%C1%A1%BC%A5%D5
:動機。題材。
:Motive. Theme.

:I also am doing the usage like the above-mentioned by the real life. Does the meaning of the motif change in USA? [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 01:23, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
:Is this answer of me appropriate? [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 02:26, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
::No, it does not change in the US. It's an English word so it's definition is constant.
::But I meant, "could you explain loanwords?" Like you did when you explained usage of the や particle to Umeko.
::--[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 02:47, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

:::Mackinz「But I meant, "could you explain loanwords?" Like you did when you explained usage of the や particle to Umeko.」

:::The machine translation seems not to operate well. Could you say more in detail? Do I explain the loan word? [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]]
::::Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think he would like you to explain how (or why) English words appear as loanwords in Japanese. --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 04:11, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::Thank you. It was possible to understand.

http://www.excite.co.jp/News/bit/E1279601955369.html
鎧をモチーフにしたジーンズ
Jeans that make armor motif

http://eiga.com/news/20100722/2/
ティム・バートン最新作は日本の怪獣がモチーフ
In the latest in Tim Burton work, Japanese monster is a motif.

http://www.afpbb.com/article/life-culture/life/2605578/4188742
ランジェリー・コンテスト、優勝モチーフは「キャベツ」
The lingerie contest and the victory motif are the cabbages.

Is this?[[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 04:22, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

Why does the Japanese use an English loan word? It is because of convenience. The child understands katakana more first than kanji. It is easy to remember the loan word because it is written with katakana. An English(katakana) loan word is too general in Japan.

At what time is an English loan word used?

1 When there is no word corresponding to Japanese.

2 The loan word is general in Japan. It groundlessly uses it.

Was there an answer for which Mr. Mackinz hoped? [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 05:23, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

:Yes, thank you, Sawamu-san. That clears things up a bit for me. --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 05:57, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

== Erm... ==

...thanks? --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 13:13, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

Express gratitude to you for (lol. Keep working. [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 13:17, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

== Good afternoon, can I bother you for a few minutes? ==

This is a line of interest to me from http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ds/interview/irbj/vol1/index2.html

岩田

で、まず舞台のモチーフをニューヨークにすることを決めると、
その次に何が決まるんですか？

But I'm having trouble translating it. It mentions using New York as the first motif if my rough translation is correct.

Could you help me, please? --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 01:24, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

:Yes, your translation is correct. The first inspiration of isshu is NY.

:岩田　で、まず舞台のモチーフをニューヨークにすることを決めると、その次に何が決まるんですか？
:iwata「The motif of the stage is decided to NY. What after this is decided?」

:増田　舞台を決めて、どこの、どういう場所に町をつくるか、というのをだいたい決めるんですけど、これもニューヨークのＭｏＭＡ（※10）に行きまして・・・。
:masuda「After the stage is decided, it thinks about the array of the town. I went to MoMA of NY.」

:岩田　ニューヨーク近代美術館ですね。
:iwata「It is The Museum of Modern Art, New York.」

:増田　はい。美術館の中庭のイスに座ってアイデアを練っていたんですけど、そのときに、六角形のイメージがパッと浮かんだんです。
:六角形というと、ハチの巣があったりしますよね。そこで、ニューヨークのマンハッタンを中央に置き、両サイドに町や自然など含めて、それぞれを六角形でつなげていけば面白いんじゃないかと思ったんです。
:masuda「The idea was worked over sitting on the chair of the museum. The idea of the hexagon was conceived. The hexagon recalls the beehive.
:Manhattan of NY is put on the center. The town and nature are set up on both sides. And, it was thought that it was interesting if tying in the hexagon. 」

:The procedure of production is spoken. It is clarified that the arrangement of a right and left town did not refer to NY of the reality.
:My translation is rough. I'm sorry. [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 15:16, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

:で、まず舞台のモチーフをニューヨークにすることを決めると、その次に何が決まるんですか？
:Only this sentence is translated. If it is this sentence alone, the word "The first motif" is not described. [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 16:17, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

::勝手ながらもお邪魔させて頂きます。
::To clarify Sawamular's point, Iwata is not talking about deciding on New York as the "first model" in a line of many places used for the setting of B&W; rather, he is talking about the "first" step in Masuda's process of conceiving the world of B&W: deciding on New York as the "model." Hope that helps. [[User:Kamen no Otoko|Kamen no Otoko]] 16:45, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

:::Thank you for help. However, the word "Model" is not used. We faithfully follow the word "Motif". 助力有難う御座います。「モデルなんて言葉使ってない」この文が失礼に感じられたらゴメンネ。機械翻訳を使用してるので直感的に言うしかないんです。回りくどい言い方をすると、機械翻訳を通したときに支離滅裂な文になるんです。配慮が足りない英語で申し訳ない。[[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 17:09, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

::::いえ、どういたしまして。少しでもお役に立てれば嬉しいですが。そして、サワムラーさんの文が全然失礼に感じていないので、ご安心下さい。モチーフのこと、了解です。テンションやトレーナーなど、外来語が必ずしも日本語でも同じ意味に使われるわけではない、ということの語例がいくつかあり、その上、この場合「モチーフ」という言葉は確か英語の「モデル」という意味合いが含まれているのでは、という気がしたので勝手に書き替えてしまいまして、申し訳ございません。 [[User:Kamen no Otoko|Kamen no Otoko]] 17:24, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

:::::ご丁寧に有難う御座います。[[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 17:44, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::Can I ask what you and Kamen boy are talking about?--[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 21:37, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::::He just apologized for the overly direct English sentences in his post. As he is relying on machine translation, he has no choice but to phrase things as bluntly as possible; otherwise--that is, were he to take a more indirect approach--the sentence would become incoherent. I used "model" instead of "motif" in my description, and he clarified that BP has decided (apparently after much debate, from what I've read) to use "motif" as it is. I just remarked that I felt "model" was justified because loanwords do not always carry the same meaning in Japanese as in English (see テンション、トレーナー、etc.), and it seems that the use of the word "モチーフ" in this case had the implication of the English "model." Nonetheless,「郷に入れば郷に従え」ということで、I guess the word "motif" stands.
:::::::Also, Kamen no Otoko = 仮面の男→仮面（mask）+ 男（man）= Masked Man. ;D [[User:Kamen no Otoko|Kamen no Otoko]] 22:08, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Ah, thank you for explaining. I was the one who fought to clarify that motif does not mean model on BP. And this translation proves it (I.E. the Model of the Stage is sort of backwards considering the words are mostly used the same ways. Motif, on the other hand, means something entirely different, applying only to the surface features like a theme. Case in point, a wall with a sailboat motif is not a sailboat.)
::::::::Also, sorry about the name. It's been a year or so since I studied Japanese so my grasp of proper translation is slipping. --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 22:41, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::舞台 is not "stage" here, though--it's more properly rendered as "setting." I suppose the issue can only be truly settled by keeping tabs on whether or not Masuda ever uses a different phrasing regarding the connection between New York and Isshu. And no worries about the name; I just wanted to point it out since I figured that you just didn't know what 仮面 was, and that "man" is generally preferable when translating 男. [[User:Kamen no Otoko|Kamen no Otoko]] 22:51, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::So the motif of the setting? Still, there has been no mention of New York as 舞台, only as モチフ. If any of them maent New York as a setting, why would they use モチフ over 舞台? --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 02:58, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

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Feel free to come to me with any questions. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 23:54, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Lol, sorry XD But, eh, thanks :D

I have been doing well on my contributions BESIDES the link templates, right? XD

It took a while to find some of the things I've found XD --[[User:050294]] 20:39, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

:Mostly, yeah. Like I said, look at the changes myself and others have made to your additions for more specific examples. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 00:50, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

::Thanks SO much :D --[[User:050294|050294]] 21:00, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

== Notability ==

Please do not create articles for Pokémon belonging to characters of the day. They are non-notable and only need to be mentioned on the character of the day's page. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] [[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]] 13:59, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

== Personal images ==
Thank you ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 15:41, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Aw, man, why? Well, that sucks. I've seen several people with personal images :| Like [[User:David_aipom]]. I mean, he has some useful sprites, but the egg ones I think are uneeded, and I have never seen them used. ''[[User:050294|]]'''Natalie''''' 11:35, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Is there any way I can keep them?

If not, the ones I want to keep are:

[[Image:Chusmokesprite.PNG‎]]
and [[Image:050294trainersprite.png‎]]
::It is just because the archives is supposed to be used for actual pictures and images that can be used in the mainspace, that is why there is a limit. If you upload them through photobucket, you can have as many as you want. David Aipom uploaded his images through photobucket, so there isn't a problem, you are able to do the same. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 15:41, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

:::Thank you, I just learned that a minute ago and was going to reply. Thanks for bringing this to my attention about this personal image policy.''[[User:050294|]]'''Natalie''''' 11:44, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
::::I'll give you some time to switch the images so that you can have everything still. Tell me when you finished moving them over to the image hosting site. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 15:46, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::Are you finished switching over the images? ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 17:16, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::Yes''[[User:050294|]]'''Natalie''''' 1:22, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

== Template:Thief ==

U could've just moved the page to the correct title--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 16:44, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

I don't know how, sorry. Could you tell me? [[User:050294|Natalie]] 12:46, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

The button that says move (it is next to history)--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 16:47, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks :) [[User:050294|Natalie]] 12:57, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

== Signature ==

Sorry about this, but I'm obligated by my duties to remind you of our relatively new signature policy. Your signature ''must'' reflect your username, so signing as "Natalie" is inappropriate. If you're having second thoughts about your username, {{u|Zhen Lin}} may be willing to change it. Thank you. --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 17:40, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
*Woops, sorry XD

== Mystery Dungeon 2 Player ==
A usertag you have been using, <nowiki>{{User Mystery Dungeon 2}}</nowiki>, has been moved to a new location due to a split in the usertag between the two versions. Your tag has been switched to that template's new location, <nowiki>{{User Mystery Dungeon Explorers of Time}}</nowiki>. If you only play Explorers of Darkness, you can reflect it by changing the tag to <nowiki>{{User Mystery Dungeon Explorers of Darkness}}</nowiki>. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 01:51, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

== Your User tags... ==

They cut off halfway and spread the entire creen.Did you o that on purpose or do you want them all to the side?--[[User:DCM|DCM]]

I did it on purpose -*- [[User:050294|050294]]

== Custom Sprites ==

The Custom Sprites page has been moved [[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|here]], to the main space.--[[User:Tavisource/Custom Sprite Project|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 04:06, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

==Garchomp==
''Gabite's'' the one with healing scales, not Garchomp. And why did you put some of Gabite's behavior on ''Garchomp's'' page? [[User:Palkiajosh|Palkiajosh]] 19:54, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

**Because, if you think about it, if one has magic scales, all probably do, and Garchomps behavior is not fully known (As behavior has not been seen except in two episodes so far) so I just added it. [[User:050294|050294]] 21:12, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

But if we don't know for sure, should we ''really'' have it there? It's kinda like {{tt|saying Pikachu is a girl|or a boy, depending on your opinion.}}. [[User:Palkiajosh|パルキアJosh]] 00:53, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

== ... ==

You're seriously going to make THAT many subpages? I think it's a TAD bit too much. Maybe merging it will be better...or just summarize it ON the page... [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 20:14, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

== ^_^ ==

Impressive job on the Custom sprites! Thanks for your dedication and hard work! Although, I suggest giving yourself credit for the sprites by adding/changing your name in the coding. Add this to your user page. 
<nowiki>{| class="userboxitem" style="border: 1px solid #96c; background: #{{gold color}}; {{#switch:{{{moz|yes}}}|yes=-moz-border-radius: 60px;|no=}}" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"
! style="background: gold; {{#switch:{{{moz|yes}}}|yes=-moz-border-radius: 60px;|no=}}" | [[Image:Ash's Squirtle2.png|60px]]
| style="background: #{{gold color}}; color: gold; {{#switch:{{{moz|yes}}}|yes=-moz-border-radius: 60px;|no=}}" | This user hereby receives recognition for outstanding contribution to the [[Project:Project Custom Sprites|Custom Sprites Project]]!
|}</nowiki> 
--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 03:43, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
:Having problems with that? Yeah, you were. Now it's fixed. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:53, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

== Serebii ==

Please don't steal things from Serebii.net...D: It's not good for us...You're ripping his hard work AND pics and using it as ours when we don't have something...Next time please don't steal things from Serebii...--[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 00:39, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

== Re: Shiny Tips? ==

I'm glad you checked out my [[User:SaitoFX|User page]], which is a bit ''outdated''. To make it simple, most of my shinies were gotten using the easiest LEGIT method there is, soft-resetting. 
In my oppinion, soft-resetting is the fastest & simplest way of getting a [[Shiny Pokémon|shiny]]. Why you ask? Just save before "seeing" the [[Pokémon]] you want and be patient until it shines. 
That's how I got the [[Starter Pokémon|starters]], which took me 2 days/6 hours each, & {{p|Groudon}}, which took me 2 whole weeks & gave me a hell of a fight, by the way. 
{{p|Surskit}} was randomly found while a swarm was taking place on [[Route 120]], and I was actually looking for an {{p|Absol}}. 
Finally, to get {{p|Poochyena}} I saved on [[Route 103]] and repeated this: encounter 10 random [[Pokémon]] then restart. 
''All I recommend to any [[Pokémon]] Fan/[[Pokémon Trainer|Trainer]] who wants to get/find/catch an [[Shiny Pokémon|alternate color]] [[Pokémon]] is to be determined and persistent. Also, a bit of luck is always welcome.'' 
'''Hope this could help! ~[[User:SaitoFX|SaitoFX]]''' 05:10, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

== Hey ==

I noticed on the Archives that you have been uploading static versions of the animated overworld sprites, as seen [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Ani426OD.png here] and [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Ani465OD.png here]. If you find any pages that are in need of these sprites, please let me know, so I can upload animated versions of them. Since there are so many left to upload, I usually only upload them when there is a need for it. Thanks. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jel]][[User Talk:Jello|lo]] 03:05, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
:@Jello, [[Nero]], {{TP|Crasher Wake|Floatzel}}, {{TP|Roark|Rampardos}} and {{p|Cranidos}}; {{TP|Morrison|Metang}} and {{p|Beldum}}; {{TP|Cheryl|Mothim}} and {{p|Burmy}}; have priority. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 03:30, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

== Hey (2) ==
Just so you know, the type idea... it's not confirmed yet. Can you refrain from doing so at the moment? We'll standardize that later. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 22:45, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

== Fukamaru ==

Hey 050, I noticed that you included '''crunch''' in ''ash's gible'''s moves used section however it was never even commanded by Ash then how can you be possibly sure that it was crunch? It can be bite as well. We never include any attack until it's commanded or mentioned by character himself. Crunch was not mentioned in the dub version and not in the original japanese version either. So, please do not add such kind of info on articles in the future. Thank you. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 02:48, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

== Guardian Signs ==

Was released today. I bought it. --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 04:07, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
:Perhaps some shops only get their shipments on Tuesdays? I know Tuesday is a common day of the week for game releases. P.S. I live in Canada 8D --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 04:12, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

== Wikia ==

I noticed you said Kibry ''Wikia''. Bulbapedia (and {{wk|Kirby Wiki|WiKirby}}) are completely unrelated to Wikia which is a for-profit arm of the WikiMedia foundation. Bulbapedia and WiKirby are part of [[NIWA]], which is an organization ''opposed'' to Wikia. [[User talk:Frushil!#What Bulbapedia is!|More detail here]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 10:30, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

== Crawdaunt. ==

The Pokemon has the idea of Japan a lot. Procambarus clarkii is named a アメリカザリガニ(american crayfish) in Japan. The pattern of the body is very similar to the national flag.

The act of the deletion is improper. The act of you whom even the guess doesn't permit is insincere. [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 11:53, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

== Janovy ==

[[a:File:496Janovy.png|The artwork has been in the archives for a month now, you know.]] Thanks, '''[[User:Kevzo8|Kev]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|zo8]]''' 08:32, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

== Burungel and Pringles ==

Why not? It's a funny bit of trivia that comes from how similar the male Burungel looks to the mascot of Pringles. I didn't put it origins or anywhere stupid like that. --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 14:22, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
:Yeah, but we try to discourage look-a-like trivia or fan theories unless we can prove there is some sort of basis for this. Take Smugleaf, for example. We were only able to mention that on the Tsutarja article after an official magazine mentioned the moniker. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:12, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
::Then how is "Nugai" still mentioned on Paul's page? It never got anything but fan-treatment, nothing official about it. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 11:43, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
:::Since when is "Trivia" supposed to be officially announced? Isn't trivia supposed to be the funny little tidbits people may or may not notice without reading the "Trivia" section?--[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 15:13, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

User talk:050294/Archive 1

2010-10-25T14:23:00Z

Mackinz: /* Burungel and Pringles */ new section

Jellicent (Pokémon)

2010-10-25T07:56:14Z

Mackinz: /* Trivia */

{{Unknown Pokémon}}
{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Pururiru | next=Mamanbou | prevnum=592 | nextnum=594 | type=Water | type2=Ghost}}
{{PokémonInfobox|
jname=ブルンゲル |
tmname=Burungel |
size=180px|
image=593Burungel {{#switch: {{#time: G}}|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19=Blue|Pink}} Dream.png |
caption={{#switch: {{#time: G}}|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19=Male|Female}} art from [[Pokémon Dream World]]|
pron=<sc>''{{{pron|pee-kah-bloo}}}''</sc> |
species=Floating |
typen=2 |
type1=Water |
type2=Ghost |
abilityn=2 |
ability1= Water Absorb|
ability2= Cursed Body|
abilityd=Damp |
ndex=593 |
idex=099 |

height-m=2.2 |

weight-kg=135 |
egggroupn=1 |
egggroup1=Indeterminate|
egggroup2= |
eggcycles=20|
expyield=168 |
lv100exp=1,000,000|
gendercode=127|
color=White |
evsd=2|
catchrate=60 |
body=Unknown |
pokefordex= |
generation=5 |
footnotes=}}
([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''ブルンゲル''' ''Burungel'') is a dual-type {{2t|Water|Ghost}} Pokémon introduced in [[Generation V]].

It evolves from {{p|Pururiru}} starting at [[level]] 40.

==Biology==
===Physiology===

====Gender differences====
Female Burungel have a different eye shape, a visible red mouth, smooth frills on their tentacles, and are pink in color, while males are blue.

===Special abilities===

===Behavior===

===Habitat===

===Diet===
{{main|Pokémon food}}
Its favorite food is known to be life energy.

==In the anime==

===Major appearances===

===Minor appearances===

==In the manga==

==In the TCG==


==Game data==

===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex
|type=Water
|type2=Ghost
|gen=5
|whitedex={{tt|からだに　すいこんだ　かいすいを　いきおいよく　ふきだして　すすむ。せいめいエネルギーが　だいこうぶつ。|It advances forward by vigorously blowing out the seawater absorbed into its body. Life energy is its favorite food.}}
}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability|
type=Water|
type2=Ghost|
gen=5 |
bwrarity=Unknown|
bwarea=[[Route]]s {{rtn|4|Isshu}}, {{rtn|17|Isshu}}, {{rtn|18|Isshu}}, [[Hodomoe City]], [[P2 Lab]] |
}}

====In side games====

===Held items===

===Stats===
====Base stats====
{{BaseStats|
type=Water|
type2=Ghost|
HP=100|
Attack=60|
Defense=70|
SpAtk=85|
SpDef=105|
Speed=60}}

===Type effectiveness===
{{DP type effectiveness|
type1=Water|
type2=Ghost|
Normal= 0 |
Fighting= 0 |
Flying= 100 |
Poison= 50 |
Ground= 100 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 50 |
Ghost= 200 |
Steel= 50 |

Fire= 50 |
Water= 50 |
Grass= 200 |
Electric= 200 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 50 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 200 |

notes=yes|
ghost=yes|
newnormal=1|
newfighting=1|
waterabsorb=maybe}}

===Learnset===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{learnlist/levelh|Burungel|Water|Ghost|5|5}}
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Bubble|Water|Special|20|100|30||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Water Sport|Water|Status|—|—|15}}
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Absorb|Grass|Special|20|100|25}}
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Night Shade|Ghost|Special|—|100|15}}
{{learnlist/level5|5|Absorb|Grass|Special|20|100|25}}
{{learnlist/level5|9|Night Shade|Ghost|Special|—|100|15}}
{{learnlist/level5|13|BubbleBeam|Water|Special|65|100|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|17|Recover|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/level5|22|Water Pulse|Water|Special|60|100|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|27|Ominous Wind|Ghost|Special|60|100|5||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|32|Brine|Water|Special|65|100|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|37|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5}}
{{learnlist/level5|45|Evil Eye|Ghost|Special|50|100|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|53|Hydro Pump|Water|Special|120|80|5||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|61|Wring Out|Normal|Special|—|100|5}}
{{learnlist/level5|69|Water Spout|Water|Special|150|100|5||'''}}
{{learnlist/levelf|Burungel|Water|Ghost|5|5}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{learnlist/tmh|Burungel|Water|Ghost|5|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM06|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|90|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM07|Hail|Ice|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM10|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|—|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM12|Taunt|Dark|Status|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM13|Ice Beam|Ice|Special|95|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM14|Blizzard|Ice|Special|120|70|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM15|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM17|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM18|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM20|Safeguard|Normal|Status|—|—|25}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM21|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM27|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM29|Psychic|Psychic|Special|90|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM30|Shadow Ball|Ghost|Special|80|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM32|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM34|Slime Wave|Poison|Special|95|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM36|Sludge Bomb|Poison|Special|90|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM42|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM44|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM45|Attract|Normal|Status|—|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM48|Canon|Normal|Special|60|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM53|Energy Ball|Grass|Special|80|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM55|Boiling Water|Water|Special|80|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM61|Will-O-Wisp|Fire|Status|—|75|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM68|Giga Impact|Normal|Physical|150|90|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM70|Flash|Normal|Status|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM77|Psych Up|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM85|Dream Eater|Psychic|Special|100|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM87|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM90|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM92|Trick Room|Psychic|Status|—|—|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|HM03|Surf|Water|Special|95|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|HM05|Waterfall|Water|Physical|80|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|HM06|Dive|Water|Physical|80|100|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/tmf|Burungel|Water|Ghost|5|5}}

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
{{learnlist/breedh|Burungel|Water|Ghost|5|5}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|088|Grimer}}{{MSP|089|Muk}}|Acid Armor|Poison|Status|—|—|40|}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|092|Gastly}}{{MSP|093|Haunter}}{{MSP|094|Gengar}}{{MSP|200|Misdreavus}}{{MSP|429|Mismagius}}{{MSP|355|Duskull}} {{MSP|356|Dusclops}}{{MSP|477|Dusknoir}}{{MSP|442|Spiritomb}}{{MSP|607|Hitomoshi}}{{MSP|608|Ranpuraa}}{{MSP|609|Shandera}}|Confuse Ray|Ghost|Status|—|100|10|}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|425|Drifloon}}{{MSP|426|Drifblim}}|Constrict|Normal|Physical|10|100|35|}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|422|Shellos}}{{MSP|422E|Shellos}}{{MSP|423|Gastrodon}}{{MSP|423E|Gastrodon}}|Mist|Ice|Status|—|—|30|||*}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|200|Misdreavus}}{{MSP|429|Mismagius}}{{MSP|577|Yuniran}}{{MSP|578|Daburan}}{{MSP|579|Rankurusu}}{{MSP|607|Hitomoshi}} {{MSP|608|Ranpuraa}}{{MSP|609|Shandera}}|Pain Split|Normal|Status|—|—|20|}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|218|Slugma}}{{MSP|219|Magcargo}}{{MSP|422|Shellos}}{{MSP|422E|Shellos}}{{MSP|423|Gastrodon}}{{MSP|423E|Gastrodon}} {{MSP|577|Yuniran}}{{MSP|578|Daburan}}{{MSP|579|Rankurusu}}{{MSP|592|Pururiru}}{{MSP|593|Burungel}}|Recover|Normal|Status|—|—|10|}}
{{learnlist/breedf|Burungel|Water|Ghost|5|5}}

====By [[Move tutor|tutoring]]====
{{learnlist/tutorh|Burungel|water|ghost|5|5}}
{{learnlist/tutor5null}}
{{learnlist/tutorf|Burungel|water|ghost|5|5}}

====Special moves====

===={{Trading Card Game}}-only moves====

===Side game data===

===Evolution===
{{evobox
|family=Normal
|sprite1=592
|name1=Pururiru
|type1-1=Water
|type2-1=Ghost
|evotype1=Level
|level1=40
|sprite2=593
|name2=Burungel
|type1-2=Water
|type2-2=Ghost
}}

===Sprites===
{{Sprite |
type=water |
type2=ghost |
gen=5 |
gender=both |
name=Burungel |
ndex=593 |
}}

==Trivia==
* No Pokémon have the same [[List of Pokémon with unique type combinations|type combination]] as Burungel and its pre-evolution.
* Burungel and its {{p|Pururiru|pre-evolution}}, along with {{p|Kenhorou}} are the only [[Generation V]] Pokémon that have [[List of Pokémon with gender differences|gender differences]].
* Jokingly, a large portion of the fandom refer to Burungel as "Pringles" or similar, noting its similarity to the mascot of Pringles.

===Origin===
Burungel and its evolution were most likely inspired by the {{wp|Nurarihyon}}, a {{wp|jellyfish}} {{wp|youkai}} that is either shown as a demonized jellyfish or as a jellyfish-like man who wears refined, sometimes regal, clothing. It is also possible that they was inspired by the Kurage no Hinotama, a sort of jellyfish-like Will O' The Wisp. Its design is inspired by the jellyfish, in particular the {{wp|Crown Jellyfish}}, and {{wp|Victorian fashion|Victorian-style}} monarch attire; the male form's appearance based on a king's while the female's is based on a queen's.

====Name origin====

==In other languages==


==External links==

==Notes==
<references />
{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Pururiru | next=Mamanbou | prevnum=592 | nextnum=594 | type=Water | type2=Ghost}}
{{Project Pokédex notice}}



[[de:Burungeru]]
[[fr:Burungel]]

Jellicent (Pokémon)

2010-10-25T07:55:45Z

Mackinz: /* Trivia */

{{Unknown Pokémon}}
{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Pururiru | next=Mamanbou | prevnum=592 | nextnum=594 | type=Water | type2=Ghost}}
{{PokémonInfobox|
jname=ブルンゲル |
tmname=Burungel |
size=180px|
image=593Burungel {{#switch: {{#time: G}}|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19=Blue|Pink}} Dream.png |
caption={{#switch: {{#time: G}}|4|5|6|7|8|9|10|11|12|13|14|15|16|17|18|19=Male|Female}} art from [[Pokémon Dream World]]|
pron=<sc>''{{{pron|pee-kah-bloo}}}''</sc> |
species=Floating |
typen=2 |
type1=Water |
type2=Ghost |
abilityn=2 |
ability1= Water Absorb|
ability2= Cursed Body|
abilityd=Damp |
ndex=593 |
idex=099 |

height-m=2.2 |

weight-kg=135 |
egggroupn=1 |
egggroup1=Indeterminate|
egggroup2= |
eggcycles=20|
expyield=168 |
lv100exp=1,000,000|
gendercode=127|
color=White |
evsd=2|
catchrate=60 |
body=Unknown |
pokefordex= |
generation=5 |
footnotes=}}
([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''ブルンゲル''' ''Burungel'') is a dual-type {{2t|Water|Ghost}} Pokémon introduced in [[Generation V]].

It evolves from {{p|Pururiru}} starting at [[level]] 40.

==Biology==
===Physiology===

====Gender differences====
Female Burungel have a different eye shape, a visible red mouth, smooth frills on their tentacles, and are pink in color, while males are blue.

===Special abilities===

===Behavior===

===Habitat===

===Diet===
{{main|Pokémon food}}
Its favorite food is known to be life energy.

==In the anime==

===Major appearances===

===Minor appearances===

==In the manga==

==In the TCG==


==Game data==

===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex
|type=Water
|type2=Ghost
|gen=5
|whitedex={{tt|からだに　すいこんだ　かいすいを　いきおいよく　ふきだして　すすむ。せいめいエネルギーが　だいこうぶつ。|It advances forward by vigorously blowing out the seawater absorbed into its body. Life energy is its favorite food.}}
}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability|
type=Water|
type2=Ghost|
gen=5 |
bwrarity=Unknown|
bwarea=[[Route]]s {{rtn|4|Isshu}}, {{rtn|17|Isshu}}, {{rtn|18|Isshu}}, [[Hodomoe City]], [[P2 Lab]] |
}}

====In side games====

===Held items===

===Stats===
====Base stats====
{{BaseStats|
type=Water|
type2=Ghost|
HP=100|
Attack=60|
Defense=70|
SpAtk=85|
SpDef=105|
Speed=60}}

===Type effectiveness===
{{DP type effectiveness|
type1=Water|
type2=Ghost|
Normal= 0 |
Fighting= 0 |
Flying= 100 |
Poison= 50 |
Ground= 100 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 50 |
Ghost= 200 |
Steel= 50 |

Fire= 50 |
Water= 50 |
Grass= 200 |
Electric= 200 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 50 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 200 |

notes=yes|
ghost=yes|
newnormal=1|
newfighting=1|
waterabsorb=maybe}}

===Learnset===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{learnlist/levelh|Burungel|Water|Ghost|5|5}}
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Bubble|Water|Special|20|100|30||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Water Sport|Water|Status|—|—|15}}
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Absorb|Grass|Special|20|100|25}}
{{learnlist/level5|Start|Night Shade|Ghost|Special|—|100|15}}
{{learnlist/level5|5|Absorb|Grass|Special|20|100|25}}
{{learnlist/level5|9|Night Shade|Ghost|Special|—|100|15}}
{{learnlist/level5|13|BubbleBeam|Water|Special|65|100|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|17|Recover|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/level5|22|Water Pulse|Water|Special|60|100|20||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|27|Ominous Wind|Ghost|Special|60|100|5||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|32|Brine|Water|Special|65|100|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|37|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5}}
{{learnlist/level5|45|Evil Eye|Ghost|Special|50|100|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|53|Hydro Pump|Water|Special|120|80|5||'''}}
{{learnlist/level5|61|Wring Out|Normal|Special|—|100|5}}
{{learnlist/level5|69|Water Spout|Water|Special|150|100|5||'''}}
{{learnlist/levelf|Burungel|Water|Ghost|5|5}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
{{learnlist/tmh|Burungel|Water|Ghost|5|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM06|Toxic|Poison|Status|—|90|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM07|Hail|Ice|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM10|Hidden Power|Normal|Special|—|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM12|Taunt|Dark|Status|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM13|Ice Beam|Ice|Special|95|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM14|Blizzard|Ice|Special|120|70|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM15|Hyper Beam|Normal|Special|150|90|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM17|Protect|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM18|Rain Dance|Water|Status|—|—|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM20|Safeguard|Normal|Status|—|—|25}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM21|Frustration|Normal|Physical|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM27|Return|Normal|Physical|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM29|Psychic|Psychic|Special|90|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM30|Shadow Ball|Ghost|Special|80|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM32|Double Team|Normal|Status|—|—|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM34|Slime Wave|Poison|Special|95|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM36|Sludge Bomb|Poison|Special|90|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM42|Facade|Normal|Physical|70|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM44|Rest|Psychic|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM45|Attract|Normal|Status|—|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM48|Canon|Normal|Special|60|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM53|Energy Ball|Grass|Special|80|100|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM55|Boiling Water|Water|Special|80|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM61|Will-O-Wisp|Fire|Status|—|75|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM68|Giga Impact|Normal|Physical|150|90|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM70|Flash|Normal|Status|—|100|20}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM77|Psych Up|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM85|Dream Eater|Psychic|Special|100|100|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM87|Swagger|Normal|Status|—|90|15}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM90|Substitute|Normal|Status|—|—|10}}
{{learnlist/tm5|TM92|Trick Room|Psychic|Status|—|—|5}}
{{learnlist/tm5|HM03|Surf|Water|Special|95|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|HM05|Waterfall|Water|Physical|80|100|15||'''}}
{{learnlist/tm5|HM06|Dive|Water|Physical|80|100|10||'''}}
{{learnlist/tmf|Burungel|Water|Ghost|5|5}}

====By {{pkmn|breeding}}====
{{learnlist/breedh|Burungel|Water|Ghost|5|5}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|088|Grimer}}{{MSP|089|Muk}}|Acid Armor|Poison|Status|—|—|40|}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|092|Gastly}}{{MSP|093|Haunter}}{{MSP|094|Gengar}}{{MSP|200|Misdreavus}}{{MSP|429|Mismagius}}{{MSP|355|Duskull}} {{MSP|356|Dusclops}}{{MSP|477|Dusknoir}}{{MSP|442|Spiritomb}}{{MSP|607|Hitomoshi}}{{MSP|608|Ranpuraa}}{{MSP|609|Shandera}}|Confuse Ray|Ghost|Status|—|100|10|}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|425|Drifloon}}{{MSP|426|Drifblim}}|Constrict|Normal|Physical|10|100|35|}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|422|Shellos}}{{MSP|422E|Shellos}}{{MSP|423|Gastrodon}}{{MSP|423E|Gastrodon}}|Mist|Ice|Status|—|—|30|||*}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|200|Misdreavus}}{{MSP|429|Mismagius}}{{MSP|577|Yuniran}}{{MSP|578|Daburan}}{{MSP|579|Rankurusu}}{{MSP|607|Hitomoshi}} {{MSP|608|Ranpuraa}}{{MSP|609|Shandera}}|Pain Split|Normal|Status|—|—|20|}}
{{learnlist/breed5|{{MSP|218|Slugma}}{{MSP|219|Magcargo}}{{MSP|422|Shellos}}{{MSP|422E|Shellos}}{{MSP|423|Gastrodon}}{{MSP|423E|Gastrodon}} {{MSP|577|Yuniran}}{{MSP|578|Daburan}}{{MSP|579|Rankurusu}}{{MSP|592|Pururiru}}{{MSP|593|Burungel}}|Recover|Normal|Status|—|—|10|}}
{{learnlist/breedf|Burungel|Water|Ghost|5|5}}

====By [[Move tutor|tutoring]]====
{{learnlist/tutorh|Burungel|water|ghost|5|5}}
{{learnlist/tutor5null}}
{{learnlist/tutorf|Burungel|water|ghost|5|5}}

====Special moves====

===={{Trading Card Game}}-only moves====

===Side game data===

===Evolution===
{{evobox
|family=Normal
|sprite1=592
|name1=Pururiru
|type1-1=Water
|type2-1=Ghost
|evotype1=Level
|level1=40
|sprite2=593
|name2=Burungel
|type1-2=Water
|type2-2=Ghost
}}

===Sprites===
{{Sprite |
type=water |
type2=ghost |
gen=5 |
gender=both |
name=Burungel |
ndex=593 |
}}

==Trivia==
* No Pokémon have the same [[List of Pokémon with unique type combinations|type combination]] as Burungel and its pre-evolution.
* Burungel and its {{p|Pururiru|pre-evolution}}, along with {{p|Kenhorou}} are the only [[Generation V]] Pokémon that have [[List of Pokémon with gender differences|gender differences]].
* Jokingly, plenty of the fandom refer to Burungel as "Pringles" or similar, noting its similarity to the mascot of Pringles.

===Origin===
Burungel and its evolution were most likely inspired by the {{wp|Nurarihyon}}, a {{wp|jellyfish}} {{wp|youkai}} that is either shown as a demonized jellyfish or as a jellyfish-like man who wears refined, sometimes regal, clothing. It is also possible that they was inspired by the Kurage no Hinotama, a sort of jellyfish-like Will O' The Wisp. Its design is inspired by the jellyfish, in particular the {{wp|Crown Jellyfish}}, and {{wp|Victorian fashion|Victorian-style}} monarch attire; the male form's appearance based on a king's while the female's is based on a queen's.

====Name origin====

==In other languages==


==External links==

==Notes==
<references />
{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Pururiru | next=Mamanbou | prevnum=592 | nextnum=594 | type=Water | type2=Ghost}}
{{Project Pokédex notice}}



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== Kanoko Town (2) ==

Sorry about not replying earlier. I actually don't know which scan Serebii used, he just posted it on the main page of his site. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 01:33, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
:Well, according to Ume and Tina, the scan says Kanoko Town. Is Serebii referring to the starting town or the other city that starts with a K? --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 02:06, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
::He said Starter Town, but now he removed that spelling and has Kanako Town....guess that puts that theory to rest. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 03:00, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
:::Hmm, both he and Pokébeach had that spelling on it, but the scan had Kanoko Town on it. But oh well, we got the problem solved. 8D. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 03:08, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

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For your teamwork and leadership on the Bulbagarden Archives, this award is to be shared with Jello and ht14. Thanks for your effort and well done. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 00:45, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
:Congratulations. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 01:10, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
::Hur hur, I see what you did thar Trom with that section title, and thank you Tromie~. |D. Also thanks Turtwig~. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 01:14, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
:::Congrats sucka! Good teamwork! —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 01:16, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
::::Congrats gurl! With our unbeatable combination, we can't lose to anyone! *battle music plays* --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 01:22, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

== Block Discuss ==

I'M so sorry but may you please unblock me. I know how to categorize pictures, I just unploaded pictures in a hurry, i swear this thing will never happed again if you just unblock me! {{unsigned|Milotic.ho}}
:Alright, I've unblocked you, but please remember to categorize. Thank you. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 22:16, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

== {{Ash}}'s Temporary Pokémon ==

I've uploaded a pic of Ash's Seaking to the archives. I'll work on getting some pics for the rest.--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 05:29, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
:Jello uploaded Ash's Rapidash and his Hoothoot, so we're good. Thanks. 8D. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 05:39, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
::The Weezing? What about that?--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 05:42, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
:::It's server issue. I uploaded it yesterday I believe. Archives has yet to sync with BP. Try hard refreshing, it should show. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 05:44, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
::::Okay. Anything else I might be able to help with?--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 05:46, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::Uh, I don't think so. I can't think of anyone right now who might need a section like that...Maybe Dawn or <strike>Misty</strike> May or something...--[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 05:51, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

== YOU IDIOT ==

Just saying as a record. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:41, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
:Gee, because you're such an winner. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 07:51, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

== An easier way to rename ALL the images ==

Copy the article's source into notepad, go to Edit ----> Replace and replace all the old names with the new names. That way you can avoid doing a little image name scavenger hunt that you did earlier. [[User:Koolboyman|Koolboyman]] 00:38, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
:Yeah, I'm aware. D: I was in a rush for class...D: --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 01:07, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

== Image uploading issues ==

Why I can't overwrite images on the Bulbagarden Archives? I'd like to replace the move images with broken (black) transparencies and using JPEG compression. --[[User:Turtwig Lover|Turtwig Lover]] 11:33, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
:It's probably because you are a new user; they aren't able to upload newer versions of files for some time. Keep editing file summaries or help out in some other way, until you are able to upload over the files. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 13:06, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

== Help ==
Alright, but could you please tell me on where to go on descussing the information I had just descussed on Isshu, and if it's Bulbagarden, how could I sigh in, because it won't let me for some reason? --User:Cynthia149 17:36, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
:It's because you haven't registered on the forums, I gave you some directions on how to register on your talk page. :D --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 16:35, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

== Sorry ==

I was just trying to get my starter thing right.I'm done now. --[[User:Batking30|Batking30]] 16:04, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
:Go easy on the edits and use the preview button to eliminate multiple edits then please~ D: --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 16:05, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

== My bad Psy ==

I am still sorta new to the Bulbapedia and editing wikis in general. The way I had my usertags before, I could only delete them one section at a time (or so I thought, before {{u|Phantomjunkie}} set me straight, see {{ut|Jediknightdtv|my talkpage}}). I am working on getting them all in one infobox, that way I can edit them all at once by just editing the infobox. BTW, I am planning on getting started on writing summaries for the episodes that need them soon, when I have time. My point is, it was a one time thing, and I promise it will not happen again. --[[User:Jediknightdtv|JediKnight]][[User talk:Jediknightdtv|DTV]] 23:26, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

== Unblock ==

Please You unblock me. I really wanna' to put some pictures of Cynthia's Garchomp and many more, cuz i have a lot of pictures, please unblock me and this thing will not happen again. (Milotic.ho)
:Your two week block expires today automatically. However, you have shown us you don't know how to categorize or tag pictures properly. Because of this, you've been blocked multiple times. If you want to stay unblocked, I suggest you learn how to categorize and tag properly or you might face a four week block. And a side note, having your brother come to my talk page and call me a diva and a bitch and threatening me, really didn't intimidate me, and it didn't persuade me to consider unblocking you. Next time, come talk to me here since you're free here or email me via the "e-mail this user" on the side bar to discuss the block with me, and I can bring it up with the Editor in Chief. Thank you. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 17:27, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

== Huh? ==

Why did you [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User%3APsychicRider%2FPok%C3%A9mon_League_%28Isshu%29&action=historysubmit&diff=1192993&oldid=1192889 revert me]? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 14:06, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
:I guess I must have clicked rollback and not noticed it, cause when I went to change the T's back to t's, it said I was editing an out of date diff. If you had clicked to see the newer edits, you'd see that I did change it back, save for the trainer to Trainer bit. I'm not particularly favored toward that. It seems so out of place. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 16:32, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
::Yeah I had seen that you put the number fix back. Well, "Trainer" is meant to be spelled like that, as it is always spelled that way in the games (Generation I might not, but it also had "Clefairies"). In addition, there was another instance of capital Trainer on the page, and they should all be the same way, so I went with the offical way. However, the page is in your userspace, so these can stay the way that you want them, but will be fixed once it is moved to the mainspace so I don't see any point in leaving them as "trainer". --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 03:38, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

==Thanks!==
Thank you for doing my teensey edit on the Vaporeon page! ^^ [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 19:33, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:No problem. Looking into the protection, it was protected around the time where Hydration was announced as its Dream World ability, so it was protected against speculation being added. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 19:49, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
::Oh! Okay, I guess that makes sense, then! Thanks again. ^^ [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 20:03, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:::However, since it was revealed that it does get the ability and so do most other Pokémon, I'll ask if an admin can unprotect it. :D --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 20:12, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
::::That would explain why Hydration is locked itself. I wanted to edit the Hydration page, so that the little picture of Mamanbou reveal itself (as its national number is known now), but couldn't do it, because the is locked. [[User:Yohrd|Yohrd]] 10:57, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::Thank you for telling me. :D. It's been changed~ --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 11:39, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
::::::No problem, meanwhile, I made a list of Gen V Pokemon who have the ability : - Pokémon | Second Ability - #535 Otamaru | Swift Swim - #536 Gamageru | Swift Swim - #537 Gamageroge | Swift Swim - #616 Chobomaki | Shell Armor - #617 Arigudaa | Sticky Hold [[User:Yohrd|Yohrd]] 13:10, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

== adeku. old-fashioned Japanese is spoken in a Japanese version. ==
Why did you erase it? Adeku speaks old-fashioned Japanese in a Japanese version. [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 23:36, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:Because it wasn't even a proper sentence. You can re add it if you make it into one. If I couldn't understand what you were trying to say there, I doubt anyone else could either. No offense. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 23:38, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
::"Adeku speaks old-fashioned Japanese in a Japanese version."
::I'm sorry by poor English. May I add this sentence again? [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 23:52, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:::Perhaps, "In the Japanese version of Pokémon Black and White, Adeku speaks formal Japanese." (or you can replace formal with old-fashioned) Not sure. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 23:58, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:::: Thank you for making appropriate sentences. [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 00:31, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

== Still not right. ==

It's still not confirmed in any way to be "based" off the New York area. Try "It has been confirmed by [[Junichi Masuda]] that the Isshu region draws inspiration from Manhattan, New York but is not explicitly based off of New York."

And then I'll shut up. ^^

Also, remove all traces of the word "base". We don't have the "base" of Isshu. We have it's "motif".

--[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 05:47, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
:Alrighty, thanks, I'll do it now. :P. I got tired of seeing the Isshu talk page being edited so I flipped out. Sorry >_>;;. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 05:53, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
::No, thank you, Psy! ^^ --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 06:05, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
::Considering the overwhelming evidence that points to it having inspiration from New York City and surrounding, and not directly based off of it, it was due for a change. D: --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 06:08, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
:::It's funny cause this would not have been done without my pushing for it! xD
:::Well, until Junichi releases an official statement anyway~
:::But yeah, thanks again! :3
:::--[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 06:10, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
::::No problem~ Happy to help. If anyone has a problem with it being changed for some neutrality, they can come talk to me. 8D --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 06:12, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::I'm just glad that the misconception since PokePia has been cleared up! (At least on Bulbapedia, anyway :3)
:::::Do you think I did a good job or bad job? Honestly.
:::::--[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 06:14, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::Well it would have been nice if you could have done it without getting on everyone's case and spamming talk pages excessively... —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 06:29, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::::It would have also been nice if more people had actually read the facts that both Game Freak and Nintendo posted instead of believing some non-official source.--[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 06:33, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

== Images in templates ==

I am not able to upload any of the images so that's why most of the templates are missing the images. [[User:Pattyman|Pattyman]] 23:16, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
:Ok? I've been around long enough to know that they don't show up. I reverted you because the image was an ugly jpg and I was going to get png images of them anyways, which I did. Thanks. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 23:20, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

== Some Pokémon are based on Mother/EarthBound characters! ==

Hi,

I just wanted to tell you that I discovered something...quite odd. It appears that two Pokémon, Mewtwo and Deoxys, are actually based from characters of the EarthBound series!

Mewtwo may be based on {{wp|Giegue}} (Giygas), the main anatagonist of the Japan-only {{wp|Mother (video game)}} , before his body and soul were destroyed by its own PSI powers in {{wp|EarthBound (series)}}. Since many people working for APE.inc, including Benimaru Itoh, went on to Game Freak to create the Pokémon Series, it is possible that Mewtwo may be based on Giegue. Also, EVE(not the female droid from WALL-E!), a space alien virus, share this cliché with {{p|Deoxys}} The reason fans think Deoxys may be based on EVE from {{wp|Mother (video game)}}, is because both are alien space viruses who went under mutation when they were struck by a laser beam, and with the fact that most people who produced the {{wp|EarthBound (series)}} went to create the Pokémon series, it is very likely that EVE was Deoxys' origin.

Not only that, but Giegue/Mewtwo are extremely similar, only Giegue is blue, has a sereine face, has a warm heart and has longer and bigger 'ears' than Mewtwo's. EVE's sprite is almost identical to Deoxys' Normal Forme, so I don't think there's a coincidence between these two Pokémon and EarthBound aliens. What do you think? [[User:TokoyamiTheDark|TokoyamiTheDark]] 23:18, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
:Personally, I don't see the similarities in any of them, especially since I have never played Mother/Earthbound, but if you think that it's notable, you should talk to one of the higher-ups. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 23:25, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
::Ok. I think I should talk to Jello about the EarthBound coincidences, since she's the leader of the CharacterDex. I've seen websites showing these Pokémon/EarthBound clichés too, with comparaison images, but I can't seem to find them back... [[User:TokoyamiTheDark|TokoyamiTheDark]] 23:32, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
:::Uh actually, Psy is the leader of CharacterDex. You might want to bring this up with either Sol or Tina since they've played Earthbound, and are more likely more knowledgeable in this area. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 23:34, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
::::Honestly I don't see what "being knowledgeable with EarthBound" has to do with this. :V It's just taking a look at the similarities and see if it's notable to mention. I would say that they're just coincidences, especially with Mewtwo and Deoxys being released eons apart, meaning it's not very likely for Deoxys to be based off of EVE anyway. '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 23:38, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

== Listen Psychic ==

I'm not trying to make you mad. Believe me, that is the last thing I would want to do.

However, please remember I'm trying to maintain what we know for sure. I'll show you exactly what I put on Umeko's talk page:

The wording I revised, and there wasn't much if anything, was the things that, if you notice, give the reader the feeling that Isshu is New York. This, however, is not confirmed by anyone that actually have the authority to confirm it. The interview on Nintendo.co.jp and blog 177 on Game Freak's blog directly say : "New York is Isshu's motif". If you'll notice how many times I've pointed out that Motif does not mean Basis/Model/Stage, you would also notice how neutral I made the text while maintaining the statement "Isshu uses New York as it's motif". Please understand that I'm not saying it is not possible for Game Freak to come out later and outright say "New York is Isshu". I'm just saying it hasn't been said yet. And frankly, I want Bulbapedia to be as accurate as possible. --Mackinz of SoulSilver 02:40, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

== N's Castle ==
You can say the article sucks, but I put effort into that thing. {{unsigned|Cool469}}
:For one, you didn't even use correct link templates. It should not be <nowiki>[[Zoroark]]</nowiki>, it should be <nowiki>{{p|Zoroark}}</nowiki>. You might want to check out the {{bp|list of link templates}}. It'll help. Second, you should have categorized it better and since there was not a lot of stuff on the page, placed an <nowiki>{{incomplete}}</nowiki> tag at the top and a <nowiki>{{Stub|Location}}</nowiki> tag at the bottom because it is both a stub and a location. Third, after you comment, please type <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> for a signature, thanks. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 05:45, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

== Quick question ==

What's the limit on how long your signature can be? And can we use pages like [User:The Exterminator/Sig] for substituting signatures? (And yes I know that's not a full link right there.) [[User:The Exterminator|The Exterminator]] 18:18, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
:I'm pretty sure that there is no length limit, but I know that signature templates are not allowed. The {{bp|signature policy}} has all the details on signatures. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 18:44, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
Well, it's not exactly a template, so I wasn't sure if it's allowed or not. When I sign, it would do this: <pre> ~~~~ → <nowiki>{{subst:User:The Exterminator/Sig}}</nowiki> → <nowiki>[[User:The Exterminator|blah blah blah]]</nowiki></pre> It works fine and hasn't glitched with the text alignment and stuff yet, but the policy about no templates had me questioning. [[User:The Exterminator|The Exterminator]] 18:58, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
:It does the same thing as using the signature box in the preferences, since it just puts in the coding that's on the page. [[User:The Exterminator|The Exterminator]] 19:07, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
::Using curly brackets to include it on another page is pretty much the definition of a template, making it a sig template, which is not allowed. Also, {{bp|Signature Policy#Signature guidelines|there is a limit}} of 80 rendered characters, but I believe that the preferences box will also only accept about 130 odd characters. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 19:13, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
Okay, thanks. '''''[[User:The Exterminator|The Exterminator]]'''''[[User talk:The Exterminator|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/The Exterminator|Contribs.]] 19:25, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

== Permission ==

Hey Psy, would you mind if I use a coding similar to your's (Contact ME section only) of your userpage? I really want to get rid of the ugly contact section from my userspace and I tried replacing it with your's (but slight color change) and it looked perfect. But I need your permission, if it's not ok then no problemo. So, can I use it or not? ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 12:33, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
:Yeah sure, i don't mind. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 15:43, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
::Thanks :) ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 16:52, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

== Requests? ==

Is it possible to make requests for you? Because I've made these following requests for [[User:Tc26|another user]] quite a while ago, but nothing has happened. I'm really impressed of your pictures' quality and amount, so I decided to ask from you next.
*Images of [[Ash's Pikachu]] using {{m|Tackle}} (yes, {{tt|it has used the move|...even though we know Pikachu cannot learn the move in the games.}}, for example in [[EP118]], [[EP143]] and [[EP183]]) and {{m|Agility}}.
*Image of [[Ash's Gliscor]] using {{m|Sandstorm}} (used at the beginning of [[DP100]]).
*<strike>Image of [[Sabrina's Kadabra]] using {{m|Teleport}} (besides as an Abra, it also used the move after the evolution during the rematch)</strike> and a better picture of it using {{m|Confusion}} (I mean that part where it uses the move to redirect Pikachu's attack back at it, not that current one where its eyes just faintly glow before that (there was that kind of a image, but it was deleted)).
*<strike>Image of [[Dewgong (Cerulean Gym)|Cerulean Gym's Dewgong]] using some move as a Dewgong.</strike>
*Images for the [[Pichu Brothers]]', [[Team Go-Getters]]' and [[Team Meanies]]' Gengar's move templates.
*Better pictures for [[Gary Oak]]'s Dodrio, Magmar, Golem, Scizor and unseen Pokémon.
*A better pic of [[Brandon's Regis#Regirock|Brandon's Regirock]] using {{m|Lock-On}} (I'm trying to get at least two pics for everyone of Brandon's golems' move templates, but I'm short with Regirock and Registeel).
*<strike>A better pic for [[Misty's Horsea]]'s move template.</strike>
*<strike>Better pictures of [[Agatha]]'s Gengar and Golbat. </strike>
Hope that wasn't too much. Hope you can handle the job. :) --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] 16:24, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
:Uh, yeah, I can do it or at least get some of them that I can done. :D --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 17:06, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
::Not with anything bad, but that Dodrio is very small in its pic... --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] 18:39, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
:::I used the Chronicles episode cause the image was more pleasant to look at and the only other images of it using Drill Peck and it has like 5 heads in it from the animation. D;. If I can find a better one I'll change it. Also, Ash's Gliscor used Sand Attack and Staravia used Gust/Whirlwind along with it to create a sandstorm, are you using it for like a moves improvised, cause otherwise, it's not an actual move it used. Uh, I don't know if I'll be able to get the later Johto ones or the MD ones without them having logos, and uh Regirock either is in it's pose to do Lock On, or the effect is on Sceptile, so lemme know what you want~. Thank you. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 18:43, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
::::I understand your problems, so let me answer:
*Okay, I just thought you could have uploaded a better version of the Dodrio pic that there was earlier. Also, you can find more closer pics from it than that one which you uploaded from the same episode. But if you cannot do anything, this is fine.
*I saw that talk about Sandstorm at that talk page. I guess it is Sandstorm, since it looks similiar to the one used by Paul's Gliscor during its debut episode.
*I understand about that logo thing. If you cannot get your hands on Japanese versions of the episodes or something like that, those current pics are OK.
*The Regirock pic could be something like [[:File:Regirock using Lock on.jpg|this one]], but with better quality. 
Hope this answered all necessary questions. Ask more if something was left unclear to you.--[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] 09:03, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::I'll try to get them as close as possible. :D --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 11:13, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

== Re: Breeding in Gen V ==

I can find nothing on Eggs, Pokemon Breeding or even the location of the daycare in Gen V on their respective pages. I know eggs weren't removed (and the lack of information about them is probably due to everyone doing other, more important things) but could you tell me two things?

1. Do Eggs have a type as of now with the removal of the ???-type?

2. Where is the Daycare Center in Isshu?

--[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 18:45, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
:I haven't bred anything yet so I don't know the first answer, and the Daycare is on [[Isshu Route 3]], north of [[Sanyou City]]. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 22:08, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
::Ah, thanks. The egg problem needs to be figured out though. Got any ideas who could answer? --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 01:16, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
:::Oh! I have the Meraruba egg~ I can check it real fast. It doesn't have anything. It just has the memo at the top. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 01:30, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
::::Oh, okay, thanks Psyche ^^ --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 02:02, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::No problem. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 02:06, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

== Pokabu's gender ==

Pokabu's gender is confirmed in the preview of episode 7. The female Tsutaja uses attract on Pokabu, and he's faling in love with her. {{unsigned|Coldplaylover}}
:That doesn't change the fact that the episode confirming it to be male hasn't aired yet. It will not be added until it airs. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 15:07, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

== Misunderstanding ==

When I mentioned, "This image from serebii did not show Tracey's head completely.", I was only referring to the first upload of Tracey's Dodrio. Sorry for not wording it correctly. The second upload was not from Serebii, it was from another source instead. [[User:Pattyman|PattyMan]] 22:46, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
:Alright, I will unblock you. However, the next time, don't mention Serebii. The reason I blocked you was because of that comment and the fact you had been uploading images from Serebii. I assumed, justifiably, that you had taken the image from Serebii, and possibly edited it. Sorry for the misunderstanding. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 22:58, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

== Probably a simple error... ==

but I can't get Fire_Oath.png on the archives to appear as an image on {{m|Fire Oath}}. And I don't know how to link to the archives either... The other attacks I linked worked fine. --[[User:Joeshie|+ Joeshie +]] ''([[User talk:Joeshie|is Mæ!]])'' 22:49, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
:The servers for the Archives and the Pedia don't always sync right away, so sometimes the image doesn't show right away, even if the image has been uploaded. Usually a good hard refresh, a couple of purges or a dry edit to the page will get it to update, however it doesn't always occur right away. Hope this clears your problem, cheers --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 22:58, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
::Oh okay. xD --[[User:Joeshie|+ Joeshie +]] ''([[User talk:Joeshie|is Mæ!]])'' 02:22, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
:::Yeah, it's been like this for a while. I tried dry editing it and it showed up. :D --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 02:30, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
::::Hmmm... Still not showing up for me xD. Oh well, if it works for other people, I'm good. --[[User:Joeshie|+ Joeshie +]] ''([[User talk:Joeshie|is Mæ!]])'' 05:21, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::I tried dry editing it and it showed up for me, so the servers might be syncing now 8D;;. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 05:25, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::*randomly pops in* I don't see it either. Are you sure its working, Psyc? --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 06:09, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Tate and Liza

2010-10-25T03:20:38Z

Mackinz: /* Trivia */

{{CharInfobox|
color={{psychic color}} |
corecolor={{psychic color light}} |
bordercolor={{psychic color dark}} |
name=Tate & Liza |
jname=フウとラン |
tmname=Fu & Lan |
slogan=yes |
sloganline=The mystic combination! |
image=ArtTateLiza.png |
size=180px |
caption=Art from {{3v2|Ruby|Sapphire|Emerald}} |
gender=Female (Liza), Male (Tate) |
colors=yes|
eyes=Blue|
hair=Blue|
hometown=[[Mossdeep City]] |
region=[[Hoenn]] |
relatives=[[Jin]] (father) and [[Rachel]] (mother) (anime) |
trainer=yes |
trainerclass=[[Gym Leader]]s |
numpkmncaught=Varies with canon |
game=yes |
generation={{gen|III}} |
games={{3v2|Ruby|Sapphire|Emerald}} |
leader=yes |
gym=Mossdeep Gym |
badge=Mind Badge |
specialist=yes |
type={{type2|Psychic}}s |
brain=no |
anime=yes |
epnum=AG099 |
epname=It's Still Rocket Roll to Me |
enva='''Tate:''' [[Jason Griffith]] '''Liza:''' [[Andi Whaley]] |
java='''Tate:''' Takahiro Mizushima '''Liza:''' Chisa Yokoyama |
}}
'''Tate''' and '''Liza''' (Japanese: '''フウとラン''' ''Fu and Lan'') are the [[Gym Leader]]s of [[Mossdeep City]]'s [[Gym]], known officially as the [[Mossdeep Gym]]. They specialize in {{type2|Psychic}} {{OBP|Pokémon|species}}. They give the {{Badge|Mind}} to {{pkmn|Trainer}}s who defeat them.

==In the games==
Tate and Liza run the Mossdeep City Gym. Both specialize in {{type2|Psychic}} Pokémon and give out the Mind Badge once defeated. They also give {{TM|04|Calm Mind}}. The two of them engage in a double battle against the player when the player challenges them.

===Pokémon===
This listing is for Tate and Liza's Pokémon in the video games in which they have appeared.

====Pokémon Ruby/Pokémon Sapphire====
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|move3=Hypnosis|move3type=Psychic
|move4=Calm Mind|move4type=Psychic}}
}}

====Pokémon Emerald====
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|pokemon=Claydol
|level=41
|type1=Ground|type2=Psychic
|ability=Levitate
|move1=Earthquake|move1type=Ground
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|move3=Psychic|move3type=Psychic
|move4=Light Screen|move4type=Psychic}}
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|gen=3|game=Emerald
|ndex=178
|pokemon=Xatu
|gender=male
|level=41
|type1=Psychic|type2=Flying
|ability=Synchronize
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|pokemon=Lunatone
|level=42
|type1=Rock|type2=Psychic
|ability=Levitate
|move1=Light Screen|move1type=Psychic
|move2=Psychic|move2type=Psychic
|move3=Hypnosis|move3type=Psychic
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|game=Emerald
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|pokemon=Solrock
|level=42
|type1=Rock|type2=Psychic
|held=Sitrus Berry
|ability=Levitate
|move1=Sunny Day|move1type=Fire
|move2=SolarBeam|move2type=Grass
|move3=Flamethrower|move3type=Fire
|move4=Psychic|move4type=Psychic}}
}}

=====First [[Rematch]]=====
{{Party
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|bordercolor={{psychic color dark}}
|sprite=SpriteTateandLiza.png
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|level=41
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|move1=Rest|move1type=Psychic
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|move3=Flamethrower|move3type=Fire
|move4=Psychic|move4type=Psychic}}
}}

=====Second Rematch=====
{{Party
|color={{psychic color}}
|headcolor={{psychic color light}}
|bordercolor={{psychic color dark}}
|sprite=SpriteTateandLiza.png
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|move3=Headbutt|move3type=Normal
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|level=53
|gender=male
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|ndex=344
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|level=54
|type1=Ground|type2=Psychic
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|move1=Earthquake|move1type=Ground
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|ndex=337
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|move1=Earthquake|move1type=Ground
|move2=Psychic|move2type=Psychic
|move3=Confuse Ray|move3type=Ghost
|move4=Calm Mind|move4type=Psychic}}
|pokemon6={{Pokémon
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|ndex=338
|pokemon=Solrock
|level=55
|type1=Rock|type2=Psychic
|ability=Levitate
|move1=Sunny Day|move1type=Fire
|move2=SolarBeam|move2type=Grass
|move3=Flamethrower|move3type=Fire
|move4=Psychic|move4type=Psychic}}
}}

=====Third Rematch=====
{{Party
|color={{psychic color}}
|headcolor={{psychic color light}}
|bordercolor={{psychic color dark}}
|sprite=SpriteTateandLiza.png
|prize={{PDollar}}12000
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|pokemon=6
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|pokemon=Hypno
|level=58
|gender=male
|type1=Psychic
|ability=Insomnia
|move1=Hypnosis|move1type=Psychic
|move2=Dream Eater|move2type=Psychic
|move3=Headbutt|move3type=Normal
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|ndex=079
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|level=58
|gender=male
|type1=Water|type2=Psychic
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|move1=Yawn|move1type=Normal
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|move3=Calm Mind|move3type=Psychic
|move4=Protect|move4type=Normal}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=3
|game=Emerald
|ndex=344
|pokemon=Claydol
|level=59
|type1=Ground|type2=Psychic
|ability=Levitate
|move1=Earthquake|move1type=Ground
|move2=Explosion|move2type=Normal
|move3=Psychic|move3type=Psychic
|move4=Light Screen|move4type=Psychic}}
|pokemon4={{Pokémon
|gen=3|game=Emerald
|ndex=178
|pokemon=Xatu
|level=59
|gender=male
|type1=Psychic|type2=Flying
|ability=Synchronize
|move1=Rest|move1type=Psychic
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|move3=Confuse Ray|move3type=Ghost
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|gen=3|game=Emerald
|ndex=337
|pokemon=Lunatone
|level=60
|type1=Rock|type2=Psychic
|held=Sitrus Berry
|ability=Levitate
|move1=Earthquake|move1type=Ground
|move2=Psychic|move2type=Psychic
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|level=60
|type1=Rock|type2=Psychic
|ability=Levitate
|move1=Sunny Day|move1type=Fire
|move2=SolarBeam|move2type=Grass
|move3=Flamethrower|move3type=Fire
|move4=Psychic|move4type=Psychic}}
}}

=====Fourth Rematch=====
{{Party
|color={{psychic color}}
|headcolor={{psychic color light}}
|bordercolor={{psychic color dark}}
|sprite=SpriteTateandLiza.png
|prize={{PDollar}}13000
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|pokemon=Hypno
|level=63
|gender=male
|type1=Psychic
|ability=Insomnia
|move1=Hypnosis|move1type=Psychic
|move2=Dream Eater|move2type=Psychic
|move3=Headbutt|move3type=Normal
|move4=Protect|move4type=Normal}}
|pokemon2={{Pokémon
|gen=3|game=Emerald
|ndex=199
|pokemon=Slowking
|level=63
|gender=male
|type1=Water|type2=Psychic
|ability=Own Tempo
|move1=Yawn|move1type=Normal
|move2=Psychic|move2type=Psychic
|move3=Calm Mind|move3type=Psychic
|move4=Protect|move4type=Normal}}
|pokemon3={{Pokémon
|gen=3|game=Emerald
|ndex=344
|pokemon=Claydol
|level=64
|type1=Ground|type2=Psychic
|ability=Levitate
|move1=Earthquake|move1type=Ground
|move2=Explosion|move2type=Normal
|move3=Psychic|move3type=Psychic
|move4=Light Screen|move4type=Psychic}}
|pokemon4={{Pokémon
|gen=3|game=Emerald
|ndex=178
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|level=64
|gender=male
|type1=Psychic|type2=Flying
|ability=Synchronize
|move1=Rest|move1type=Psychic
|move2=Psychic|move2type=Psychic
|move3=Confuse Ray|move3type=Ghost
|move4=Calm Mind|move4type=Psychic}}
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|gen=3|game=Emerald
|ndex=337
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|move2=Psychic|move2type=Psychic
|move3=Confuse Ray|move3type=Ghost
|move4=Calm Mind|move4type=Psychic}}
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|pokemon=Solrock
|level=65
|type1=Rock|type2=Psychic
|held=Sitrus Berry
|ability=Levitate
|move1=Sunny Day|move1type=Fire
|move2=SolarBeam|move2type=Grass
|move3=Flamethrower|move3type=Fire
|move4=Psychic|move4type=Psychic}}
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===Quotes===
===={{game2|Ruby|Sapphire|Emerald}}====
=====[[Mossdeep Gym]]=====
*Before battle
:Tate: ''Hehehe... Were you surprised?''
:Liza: ''Hehehe... Were you surprised?''
:Tate: ''That there are two Gym Leaders?''
:Liza: ''That there are two Gym Leaders?''
:Tate: ''We're twins!''
:Liza: ''We're twins!''
:Tate: ''We don't need to talk because...''
:Liza: ''We can each determine what...''
:Tate: ''The other is thinking...''
:Liza: ''All in our minds!''
:Tate: ''This combination of ours...''
:Liza: ''Can you beat it?''

*When defeated
:Tate: ''What? Our combination...''
:Liza: ''Was shattered!''
:Tate: ''It can't be helped. You've won...''
:Liza: ''So, in recognition, take this.''

*After being defeated
:Tate: ''Looks like the bond between you and your Pokémon is far stronger than the bond that we share as twins.''
:Liza: ''You will become even stronger! We've battled you, so we know.''

===={{game|Emerald}}====
=====Rematch=====
*Before battle
:Tate: ''Pokémon...''
:Liza: ''Pokémon...''
:Tate: ''By changing the party's mix...''
:Liza: ''The battle style changes.''
:Tate: ''But me...''
:Liza: ''But me...''
:Tate: ''I'll always be with Liza!''
:Liza: ''I'll always be with Tate!''
:Tate: ''Our combination...''
:Liza: ''We'll show you again and again!''

*When defeated
:Tate: ''You and your Pokémon...''
:Liza: ''It's as if you were siblings!''

*After being defeated
:Tate: ''You can knock us down, but we'll never stay down!''
:Liza: ''Because the two of us, we always support each other!''

===={{DL|PokéNav|Trainer's Eyes}}/{{DL|PokéNav|Match Call}}====
'''Leader Tate&Liza / Mystic Duo Tate&Liza'''
:'''Strategy'''
:We battle in cooperation.
:'''Trainer's Pokémon'''
:Always friendly Pokémon.
:'''Self-Introduction'''
:{{tt|We understand each other, and we understand others.|'Papa has trouble telling the two of us apart!' in Emerald}}

==In the anime==
[[Image:Tate_and_Liza anime.png|thumb|left|200px|Tate and Liza]]
Tate and Liza first appeared in ''[[AG099|It's Still Rocket Roll to Me]]''. Their father, [[Jin]], owns the [[Mossdeep Space Center]] and often goes into space to search for space Pokémon. As a result, they often spend time at the Space Center, and even have battles in zero-gravity by using their {{p|Baltoy}}'s {{m|Confusion}} technique to levitate them.

In the anime, Liza is depicted as being more experienced in battle, and it is implied in their debut episode that she always defeats Tate whenever the two have a battle. Liza loves to annoy Tate by teasingly reminding him of such things, but what angers Tate even more is Liza's habit of referring to him as her "little" brother even though they are twins. This is because Liza is actually the older twin. Nevertheless, Liza seems to care for Tate anyway.

When [[Ash Ketchum]] and his friends visited Mossdeep, Tate quickly befriended [[Max]] since they had quite a few things in common, including Max's issues with his own older sister, {{an|May}}. Said episode itself focuses primarily on Tate and Max, who spent nearly the entire time by themselves while having fun together. Likewise, Liza related with May, and took to showing her new friends around the facility.

Later, while Tate and Max were hanging out in the cockpit of the space shuttle, Team Rocket infiltrated the area with the intent of stealing the shuttle. Tate and Max were unaware of this until the trio reached the cockpit, whereupon Meowth tied the two boys up back-to-back with a rope. Fortunately, [[Ash's Corphish]] had been aboard the shuttle as well, and freed the duo, who promptly knocked the Rockets out. In the moments that followed, Tate and Max became the heroes of the day when they safely landed the shuttle. The Rockets then suffered the wrath of Liza and May, who injured/incapacitated them with their Lunatone and Combusken, respectively, allowing [[Ash's Pikachu]] to send them flying.

In ''[[AG100|Solid as a Solrock]]'', Tate and Liza finally faced of against Ash in a [[double battle]], in which their Lunatone and Solrock, respectively, were up against Ash's Pikachu and {{AP|Swellow}}. At first, they continuously argued with each other, which allowed their opponent to get hits in. However, after another attack by Team Rocket, the twins managed to work together. In the battle that followed, they showed an incredible ability to balance each other's Pokémon, becoming a seemingly unstoppable force that Ash had to resort to unorthodox tactics in order to defeat. Eventually, Pikachu and Swellow used Pikachu's {{m|Thunder}} attack as armor, and with this new-found power, they easily defeated Lunatone and Solrock, earning Ash the Mind Badge.

===Pokémon===
This listing is of Liza and Tate's Pokémon in the {{pkmn|anime}}:

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Liza
|pkmn=Lunatone
|type1=Rock
|type2=Psychic
|img=Liza Lunatone.png
|epnum=AG099
|epname=It's Still Rocket Roll to Me!
|desc=Liza's {{p|Lunatone}} is the Pokémon she uses in all gym battles. When the twins battled each other in ''[[AG099|It's Still Rocket Roll to Me!]]'', Lunatone won the battle for Liza. She later also used it against [[Team Rocket]] after they failed to steal a space shuttle from the Mossdeep Space Center.

Lunatone's known moves are {{m|Tackle}}, {{m|Psychic}}, {{m|Ice Beam}} and {{m|Light Screen}}, and its [[ability]] is {{a|Levitate}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Tate
|pkmn=Solrock
|type1=Rock
|type2=Psychic
|img=Tate Solrock.png
|epnum=AG099
|epname=It's Still Rocket Roll to Me!
|desc=The other Pokémon on the twins' double battles team is Tate's {{p|Solrock}}. Although it lost to Liza's Lunatone when they battled, it proved to be just as powerful in {{Ash}}'s gym battle.

Solrock's known moves are {{m|Tackle}}, {{m|Sandstorm}}, {{m|SolarBeam}} and {{m|Psychic}}.}}

====At Mossdeep Gym====
{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Tate and Liza
|pkmn=Baltoy
|type1=Ground
|type2=Psychic
|img=TateandLizaBaltoy.png
|epnum=AG099
|epname=It's Still Rocket Roll to Me!
|desc=Tate and Liza's four Baltoy live at the [[Mossdeep Gym]] where when Tate and Liza want a battle they use {{m|Confusion}} to make a battlefield with zero gravity. When [[Team Rocket]] wanted to steal the space shuttle for the [[Giovanni|Boss]], Baltoy stopped the shuttle with Confusion.}}

===Voice actors===
{{vatable|color={{psychic color}}|bordercolor={{psychic color light}}
|ja='''Tate:''' 水島大宙 ''Takahiro Mizushima'' '''Liza:''' 横山智佐 ''Chisa Yokoyama''
|en='''Tate:''' [[Jason Griffith]] '''Liza:''' [[Andi Whaley]]
|pt_br='''Tate:''' Dado Monteiro '''Liza:''' Samira Fernandes
|es_la='''Tate:''' Irwin Daayán '''Liza:''' María Fernanda Morales
|es_eu='''Tate:''' Álex Saudinós '''Liza:''' Inés Blázquez
|fr_eu='''Tate:''' Fanny Roy '''Liza:''' Frederik Haùgness}}

==In the Pokémon Adventures manga==
[[File:Tate and Liza.png|right|right|thumb|225px|Tate and Liza]]
Liza and Tate are the guardians of [[Mt. Pyre]]. When they somehow sensed someone had intruded into Mt. Pyre, they went all the way to Lilycove from Mossdeep in order to protect the two Orbs. However, they fell into [[Mack]]'s fire illusion until [[Juan]] rescued them. Afterwards, they become {{adv|Ruby}}'s and {{adv|Sapphire}}'s teachers in double battling on the Mirage Island. They stayed on the island to ensure Ruby and Sapphire can leave for Sootopolis safely, and were not seen since then.

===Pokémon===
This listing is for Tate and Liza's Pokémon in the Pokémon Adventures manga.
{|border="1" style="border: 1px solid #000; border-collapse: collapse;" width=200px cellspacing="0"
|-
| align=center | [[Image:337.png]] {{p|Lunatone}}
| align=center | [[Image:338.png]] {{p|Solrock}}
| align=center | [[Image:325.png]] {{p|Spoink}} ×2
|}

==Trivia==
* Tate and Liza are the only [[Gym Leader]] pair; all other Gym Leaders, barring the Gym Leaders of [[Sanyou City]], are individuals.
** However, this battle is the only Gym Battle where you face more than one Gym Leader at once.
** As a result of an oversight, the games refer to them as "Leader Tate and Liza" in battle.
* Also, they are the only {{type2|Psychic}} specialists to never use {{p|Abra}}'s evolution family.
* In {{game|Ruby and Sapphire|s}}, Liza and Tate are the only [[Gym Leader]]s who face the {{player}} in a [[double battle]]. In {{v2|Emerald}} they are the only ones who face the player in a double battle before he or she beats the [[Elite Four]].
* Chuang Yi's translations of [[Pokémon Adventures]] manga mistakenly refer to Tate as a girl.
* Though they look almost identical, Tate and Liza cannot be identical twins as they do not share the same gender. Rather, they are non-identical, also known as {{wp|fraternal twins}}.
* They are the only Gym Leaders to carry more than two [[Hyper Potion]]s in their first battle. This is likely due to them being a duo, with each of them holding two Hyper Potions each.
** They are also the only Gym Leaders to have a non-alphabetical character (Excluding spaces) in their name, appearing as Tate&Liza.

===Names===
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #88a; border-collapse: collapse;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{psychic color}};"
! Language
! Name
! Origin
|-
|Japanese
|フウとラン (''Fu & Lan'')
|風蘭 ''fūran'', the name for a type of orchid (''Neofinetia falcata''). 浮 ''fū'' means floating.
|-
|English
|Tate & Liza
|Their names combined sound similar to "levitate".
|-
|French
|Lévy & Tatia
|Possible derivation from "lévitation".
|-
|German
|Ben & Svenja
|Combining their names would get "Schweben" (levitation).
|-
|Italian
|Tell & Pat
|Possible derivation from "telepatia" (telepathy).
|-
|Spanish
|Vito & Leti
|Possible derivation from "levitación" (levitation).
|-
|Korean
|풍 & 란 ''Pung & Ran''
|란 ''Ran'' is a transliteration of Japanese name, while 풍 ''Pung'' is from 楓, a spelling of ''Fū''.
|-
|Chinese
| 楓/枫 & 南 ''Fēng & Nán''
| 楓 (maple) is an alternative spelling of ''Fū''. 南 (south) may be derived from 呋喃 ''fūnán'' ({{wp|furan}}).
|}

==References==
* Pokémon.com [http://www.pokemon.com/#tvmovies_807 It's Still Rocket Roll to Me].
* Pokémon.com [http://www.pokemon.com/#tvmovies_808 Solid as a Solrock].

==External links==
*[http://pokeani.com/chara/gym-fuu_ran.html Fu and Lan's Profile] on [[Pokeani]] (Japanese)

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== Kanoko Town (2) ==

Sorry about not replying earlier. I actually don't know which scan Serebii used, he just posted it on the main page of his site. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 01:33, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
:Well, according to Ume and Tina, the scan says Kanoko Town. Is Serebii referring to the starting town or the other city that starts with a K? --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 02:06, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
::He said Starter Town, but now he removed that spelling and has Kanako Town....guess that puts that theory to rest. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 03:00, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
:::Hmm, both he and Pokébeach had that spelling on it, but the scan had Kanoko Town on it. But oh well, we got the problem solved. 8D. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 03:08, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

== CongRAHtulations! ==

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For your teamwork and leadership on the Bulbagarden Archives, this award is to be shared with Jello and ht14. Thanks for your effort and well done. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 00:45, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
:Congratulations. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 01:10, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
::Hur hur, I see what you did thar Trom with that section title, and thank you Tromie~. |D. Also thanks Turtwig~. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 01:14, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
:::Congrats sucka! Good teamwork! —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 01:16, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
::::Congrats gurl! With our unbeatable combination, we can't lose to anyone! *battle music plays* --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 01:22, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

== Block Discuss ==

I'M so sorry but may you please unblock me. I know how to categorize pictures, I just unploaded pictures in a hurry, i swear this thing will never happed again if you just unblock me! {{unsigned|Milotic.ho}}
:Alright, I've unblocked you, but please remember to categorize. Thank you. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 22:16, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

== {{Ash}}'s Temporary Pokémon ==

I've uploaded a pic of Ash's Seaking to the archives. I'll work on getting some pics for the rest.--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 05:29, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
:Jello uploaded Ash's Rapidash and his Hoothoot, so we're good. Thanks. 8D. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 05:39, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
::The Weezing? What about that?--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 05:42, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
:::It's server issue. I uploaded it yesterday I believe. Archives has yet to sync with BP. Try hard refreshing, it should show. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 05:44, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
::::Okay. Anything else I might be able to help with?--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 05:46, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::Uh, I don't think so. I can't think of anyone right now who might need a section like that...Maybe Dawn or <strike>Misty</strike> May or something...--[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 05:51, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

== YOU IDIOT ==

Just saying as a record. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:41, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
:Gee, because you're such an winner. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 07:51, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

== An easier way to rename ALL the images ==

Copy the article's source into notepad, go to Edit ----> Replace and replace all the old names with the new names. That way you can avoid doing a little image name scavenger hunt that you did earlier. [[User:Koolboyman|Koolboyman]] 00:38, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
:Yeah, I'm aware. D: I was in a rush for class...D: --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 01:07, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

== Image uploading issues ==

Why I can't overwrite images on the Bulbagarden Archives? I'd like to replace the move images with broken (black) transparencies and using JPEG compression. --[[User:Turtwig Lover|Turtwig Lover]] 11:33, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
:It's probably because you are a new user; they aren't able to upload newer versions of files for some time. Keep editing file summaries or help out in some other way, until you are able to upload over the files. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 13:06, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

== Help ==
Alright, but could you please tell me on where to go on descussing the information I had just descussed on Isshu, and if it's Bulbagarden, how could I sigh in, because it won't let me for some reason? --User:Cynthia149 17:36, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
:It's because you haven't registered on the forums, I gave you some directions on how to register on your talk page. :D --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 16:35, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

== Sorry ==

I was just trying to get my starter thing right.I'm done now. --[[User:Batking30|Batking30]] 16:04, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
:Go easy on the edits and use the preview button to eliminate multiple edits then please~ D: --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 16:05, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

== My bad Psy ==

I am still sorta new to the Bulbapedia and editing wikis in general. The way I had my usertags before, I could only delete them one section at a time (or so I thought, before {{u|Phantomjunkie}} set me straight, see {{ut|Jediknightdtv|my talkpage}}). I am working on getting them all in one infobox, that way I can edit them all at once by just editing the infobox. BTW, I am planning on getting started on writing summaries for the episodes that need them soon, when I have time. My point is, it was a one time thing, and I promise it will not happen again. --[[User:Jediknightdtv|JediKnight]][[User talk:Jediknightdtv|DTV]] 23:26, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

== Unblock ==

Please You unblock me. I really wanna' to put some pictures of Cynthia's Garchomp and many more, cuz i have a lot of pictures, please unblock me and this thing will not happen again. (Milotic.ho)
:Your two week block expires today automatically. However, you have shown us you don't know how to categorize or tag pictures properly. Because of this, you've been blocked multiple times. If you want to stay unblocked, I suggest you learn how to categorize and tag properly or you might face a four week block. And a side note, having your brother come to my talk page and call me a diva and a bitch and threatening me, really didn't intimidate me, and it didn't persuade me to consider unblocking you. Next time, come talk to me here since you're free here or email me via the "e-mail this user" on the side bar to discuss the block with me, and I can bring it up with the Editor in Chief. Thank you. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 17:27, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

== Huh? ==

Why did you [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User%3APsychicRider%2FPok%C3%A9mon_League_%28Isshu%29&action=historysubmit&diff=1192993&oldid=1192889 revert me]? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 14:06, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
:I guess I must have clicked rollback and not noticed it, cause when I went to change the T's back to t's, it said I was editing an out of date diff. If you had clicked to see the newer edits, you'd see that I did change it back, save for the trainer to Trainer bit. I'm not particularly favored toward that. It seems so out of place. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 16:32, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
::Yeah I had seen that you put the number fix back. Well, "Trainer" is meant to be spelled like that, as it is always spelled that way in the games (Generation I might not, but it also had "Clefairies"). In addition, there was another instance of capital Trainer on the page, and they should all be the same way, so I went with the offical way. However, the page is in your userspace, so these can stay the way that you want them, but will be fixed once it is moved to the mainspace so I don't see any point in leaving them as "trainer". --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 03:38, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

==Thanks!==
Thank you for doing my teensey edit on the Vaporeon page! ^^ [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 19:33, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:No problem. Looking into the protection, it was protected around the time where Hydration was announced as its Dream World ability, so it was protected against speculation being added. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 19:49, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
::Oh! Okay, I guess that makes sense, then! Thanks again. ^^ [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 20:03, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:::However, since it was revealed that it does get the ability and so do most other Pokémon, I'll ask if an admin can unprotect it. :D --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 20:12, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
::::That would explain why Hydration is locked itself. I wanted to edit the Hydration page, so that the little picture of Mamanbou reveal itself (as its national number is known now), but couldn't do it, because the is locked. [[User:Yohrd|Yohrd]] 10:57, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::Thank you for telling me. :D. It's been changed~ --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 11:39, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
::::::No problem, meanwhile, I made a list of Gen V Pokemon who have the ability : - Pokémon | Second Ability - #535 Otamaru | Swift Swim - #536 Gamageru | Swift Swim - #537 Gamageroge | Swift Swim - #616 Chobomaki | Shell Armor - #617 Arigudaa | Sticky Hold [[User:Yohrd|Yohrd]] 13:10, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

== adeku. old-fashioned Japanese is spoken in a Japanese version. ==
Why did you erase it? Adeku speaks old-fashioned Japanese in a Japanese version. [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 23:36, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:Because it wasn't even a proper sentence. You can re add it if you make it into one. If I couldn't understand what you were trying to say there, I doubt anyone else could either. No offense. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 23:38, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
::"Adeku speaks old-fashioned Japanese in a Japanese version."
::I'm sorry by poor English. May I add this sentence again? [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 23:52, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:::Perhaps, "In the Japanese version of Pokémon Black and White, Adeku speaks formal Japanese." (or you can replace formal with old-fashioned) Not sure. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 23:58, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:::: Thank you for making appropriate sentences. [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 00:31, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

== Still not right. ==

It's still not confirmed in any way to be "based" off the New York area. Try "It has been confirmed by [[Junichi Masuda]] that the Isshu region draws inspiration from Manhattan, New York but is not explicitly based off of New York."

And then I'll shut up. ^^

Also, remove all traces of the word "base". We don't have the "base" of Isshu. We have it's "motif".

--[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 05:47, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
:Alrighty, thanks, I'll do it now. :P. I got tired of seeing the Isshu talk page being edited so I flipped out. Sorry >_>;;. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 05:53, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
::No, thank you, Psy! ^^ --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 06:05, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
::Considering the overwhelming evidence that points to it having inspiration from New York City and surrounding, and not directly based off of it, it was due for a change. D: --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 06:08, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
:::It's funny cause this would not have been done without my pushing for it! xD
:::Well, until Junichi releases an official statement anyway~
:::But yeah, thanks again! :3
:::--[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 06:10, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
::::No problem~ Happy to help. If anyone has a problem with it being changed for some neutrality, they can come talk to me. 8D --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 06:12, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::I'm just glad that the misconception since PokePia has been cleared up! (At least on Bulbapedia, anyway :3)
:::::Do you think I did a good job or bad job? Honestly.
:::::--[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 06:14, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::Well it would have been nice if you could have done it without getting on everyone's case and spamming talk pages excessively... —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 06:29, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::::It would have also been nice if more people had actually read the facts that both Game Freak and Nintendo posted instead of believing some non-official source.--[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 06:33, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

== Images in templates ==

I am not able to upload any of the images so that's why most of the templates are missing the images. [[User:Pattyman|Pattyman]] 23:16, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
:Ok? I've been around long enough to know that they don't show up. I reverted you because the image was an ugly jpg and I was going to get png images of them anyways, which I did. Thanks. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 23:20, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

== Some Pokémon are based on Mother/EarthBound characters! ==

Hi,

I just wanted to tell you that I discovered something...quite odd. It appears that two Pokémon, Mewtwo and Deoxys, are actually based from characters of the EarthBound series!

Mewtwo may be based on {{wp|Giegue}} (Giygas), the main anatagonist of the Japan-only {{wp|Mother (video game)}} , before his body and soul were destroyed by its own PSI powers in {{wp|EarthBound (series)}}. Since many people working for APE.inc, including Benimaru Itoh, went on to Game Freak to create the Pokémon Series, it is possible that Mewtwo may be based on Giegue. Also, EVE(not the female droid from WALL-E!), a space alien virus, share this cliché with {{p|Deoxys}} The reason fans think Deoxys may be based on EVE from {{wp|Mother (video game)}}, is because both are alien space viruses who went under mutation when they were struck by a laser beam, and with the fact that most people who produced the {{wp|EarthBound (series)}} went to create the Pokémon series, it is very likely that EVE was Deoxys' origin.

Not only that, but Giegue/Mewtwo are extremely similar, only Giegue is blue, has a sereine face, has a warm heart and has longer and bigger 'ears' than Mewtwo's. EVE's sprite is almost identical to Deoxys' Normal Forme, so I don't think there's a coincidence between these two Pokémon and EarthBound aliens. What do you think? [[User:TokoyamiTheDark|TokoyamiTheDark]] 23:18, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
:Personally, I don't see the similarities in any of them, especially since I have never played Mother/Earthbound, but if you think that it's notable, you should talk to one of the higher-ups. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 23:25, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
::Ok. I think I should talk to Jello about the EarthBound coincidences, since she's the leader of the CharacterDex. I've seen websites showing these Pokémon/EarthBound clichés too, with comparaison images, but I can't seem to find them back... [[User:TokoyamiTheDark|TokoyamiTheDark]] 23:32, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
:::Uh actually, Psy is the leader of CharacterDex. You might want to bring this up with either Sol or Tina since they've played Earthbound, and are more likely more knowledgeable in this area. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 23:34, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
::::Honestly I don't see what "being knowledgeable with EarthBound" has to do with this. :V It's just taking a look at the similarities and see if it's notable to mention. I would say that they're just coincidences, especially with Mewtwo and Deoxys being released eons apart, meaning it's not very likely for Deoxys to be based off of EVE anyway. '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 23:38, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

== Listen Psychic ==

I'm not trying to make you mad. Believe me, that is the last thing I would want to do.

However, please remember I'm trying to maintain what we know for sure. I'll show you exactly what I put on Umeko's talk page:

The wording I revised, and there wasn't much if anything, was the things that, if you notice, give the reader the feeling that Isshu is New York. This, however, is not confirmed by anyone that actually have the authority to confirm it. The interview on Nintendo.co.jp and blog 177 on Game Freak's blog directly say : "New York is Isshu's motif". If you'll notice how many times I've pointed out that Motif does not mean Basis/Model/Stage, you would also notice how neutral I made the text while maintaining the statement "Isshu uses New York as it's motif". Please understand that I'm not saying it is not possible for Game Freak to come out later and outright say "New York is Isshu". I'm just saying it hasn't been said yet. And frankly, I want Bulbapedia to be as accurate as possible. --Mackinz of SoulSilver 02:40, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

== N's Castle ==
You can say the article sucks, but I put effort into that thing. {{unsigned|Cool469}}
:For one, you didn't even use correct link templates. It should not be <nowiki>[[Zoroark]]</nowiki>, it should be <nowiki>{{p|Zoroark}}</nowiki>. You might want to check out the {{bp|list of link templates}}. It'll help. Second, you should have categorized it better and since there was not a lot of stuff on the page, placed an <nowiki>{{incomplete}}</nowiki> tag at the top and a <nowiki>{{Stub|Location}}</nowiki> tag at the bottom because it is both a stub and a location. Third, after you comment, please type <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> for a signature, thanks. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 05:45, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

== Quick question ==

What's the limit on how long your signature can be? And can we use pages like [User:The Exterminator/Sig] for substituting signatures? (And yes I know that's not a full link right there.) [[User:The Exterminator|The Exterminator]] 18:18, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
:I'm pretty sure that there is no length limit, but I know that signature templates are not allowed. The {{bp|signature policy}} has all the details on signatures. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 18:44, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
Well, it's not exactly a template, so I wasn't sure if it's allowed or not. When I sign, it would do this: <pre> ~~~~ → <nowiki>{{subst:User:The Exterminator/Sig}}</nowiki> → <nowiki>[[User:The Exterminator|blah blah blah]]</nowiki></pre> It works fine and hasn't glitched with the text alignment and stuff yet, but the policy about no templates had me questioning. [[User:The Exterminator|The Exterminator]] 18:58, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
:It does the same thing as using the signature box in the preferences, since it just puts in the coding that's on the page. [[User:The Exterminator|The Exterminator]] 19:07, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
::Using curly brackets to include it on another page is pretty much the definition of a template, making it a sig template, which is not allowed. Also, {{bp|Signature Policy#Signature guidelines|there is a limit}} of 80 rendered characters, but I believe that the preferences box will also only accept about 130 odd characters. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 19:13, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
Okay, thanks. '''''[[User:The Exterminator|The Exterminator]]'''''[[User talk:The Exterminator|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/The Exterminator|Contribs.]] 19:25, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

== Permission ==

Hey Psy, would you mind if I use a coding similar to your's (Contact ME section only) of your userpage? I really want to get rid of the ugly contact section from my userspace and I tried replacing it with your's (but slight color change) and it looked perfect. But I need your permission, if it's not ok then no problemo. So, can I use it or not? ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 12:33, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
:Yeah sure, i don't mind. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 15:43, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
::Thanks :) ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 16:52, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

== Requests? ==

Is it possible to make requests for you? Because I've made these following requests for [[User:Tc26|another user]] quite a while ago, but nothing has happened. I'm really impressed of your pictures' quality and amount, so I decided to ask from you next.
*Images of [[Ash's Pikachu]] using {{m|Tackle}} (yes, {{tt|it has used the move|...even though we know Pikachu cannot learn the move in the games.}}, for example in [[EP118]], [[EP143]] and [[EP183]]) and {{m|Agility}}.
*Image of [[Ash's Gliscor]] using {{m|Sandstorm}} (used at the beginning of [[DP100]]).
*<strike>Image of [[Sabrina's Kadabra]] using {{m|Teleport}} (besides as an Abra, it also used the move after the evolution during the rematch)</strike> and a better picture of it using {{m|Confusion}} (I mean that part where it uses the move to redirect Pikachu's attack back at it, not that current one where its eyes just faintly glow before that (there was that kind of a image, but it was deleted)).
*<strike>Image of [[Dewgong (Cerulean Gym)|Cerulean Gym's Dewgong]] using some move as a Dewgong.</strike>
*Images for the [[Pichu Brothers]]', [[Team Go-Getters]]' and [[Team Meanies]]' Gengar's move templates.
*Better pictures for [[Gary Oak]]'s Dodrio, Magmar, Golem, Scizor and unseen Pokémon.
*A better pic of [[Brandon's Regis#Regirock|Brandon's Regirock]] using {{m|Lock-On}} (I'm trying to get at least two pics for everyone of Brandon's golems' move templates, but I'm short with Regirock and Registeel).
*<strike>A better pic for [[Misty's Horsea]]'s move template.</strike>
*<strike>Better pictures of [[Agatha]]'s Gengar and Golbat. </strike>
Hope that wasn't too much. Hope you can handle the job. :) --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] 16:24, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
:Uh, yeah, I can do it or at least get some of them that I can done. :D --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 17:06, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
::Not with anything bad, but that Dodrio is very small in its pic... --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] 18:39, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
:::I used the Chronicles episode cause the image was more pleasant to look at and the only other images of it using Drill Peck and it has like 5 heads in it from the animation. D;. If I can find a better one I'll change it. Also, Ash's Gliscor used Sand Attack and Staravia used Gust/Whirlwind along with it to create a sandstorm, are you using it for like a moves improvised, cause otherwise, it's not an actual move it used. Uh, I don't know if I'll be able to get the later Johto ones or the MD ones without them having logos, and uh Regirock either is in it's pose to do Lock On, or the effect is on Sceptile, so lemme know what you want~. Thank you. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 18:43, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

== Re: Breeding in Gen V ==

I can find nothing on Eggs, Pokemon Breeding or even the location of the daycare in Gen V on their respective pages. I know eggs weren't removed (and the lack of information about them is probably due to everyone doing other, more important things) but could you tell me two things?

1. Do Eggs have a type as of now with the removal of the ???-type?

2. Where is the Daycare Center in Isshu?

--[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 18:45, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
:I haven't bred anything yet so I don't know the first answer, and the Daycare is on [[Isshu Route 3]], north of [[Sanyou City]]. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 22:08, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
::Ah, thanks. The egg problem needs to be figured out though. Got any ideas who could answer? --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 01:16, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
:::Oh! I have the Meraruba egg~ I can check it real fast. It doesn't have anything. It just has the memo at the top. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 01:30, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
::::Oh, okay, thanks Psyche ^^ --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 02:02, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

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== Kanoko Town (2) ==

Sorry about not replying earlier. I actually don't know which scan Serebii used, he just posted it on the main page of his site. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 01:33, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
:Well, according to Ume and Tina, the scan says Kanoko Town. Is Serebii referring to the starting town or the other city that starts with a K? --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 02:06, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
::He said Starter Town, but now he removed that spelling and has Kanako Town....guess that puts that theory to rest. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 03:00, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
:::Hmm, both he and Pokébeach had that spelling on it, but the scan had Kanoko Town on it. But oh well, we got the problem solved. 8D. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 03:08, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

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For your teamwork and leadership on the Bulbagarden Archives, this award is to be shared with Jello and ht14. Thanks for your effort and well done. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 00:45, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
:Congratulations. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 01:10, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
::Hur hur, I see what you did thar Trom with that section title, and thank you Tromie~. |D. Also thanks Turtwig~. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 01:14, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
:::Congrats sucka! Good teamwork! —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 01:16, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
::::Congrats gurl! With our unbeatable combination, we can't lose to anyone! *battle music plays* --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 01:22, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

== Block Discuss ==

I'M so sorry but may you please unblock me. I know how to categorize pictures, I just unploaded pictures in a hurry, i swear this thing will never happed again if you just unblock me! {{unsigned|Milotic.ho}}
:Alright, I've unblocked you, but please remember to categorize. Thank you. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 22:16, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

== {{Ash}}'s Temporary Pokémon ==

I've uploaded a pic of Ash's Seaking to the archives. I'll work on getting some pics for the rest.--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 05:29, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
:Jello uploaded Ash's Rapidash and his Hoothoot, so we're good. Thanks. 8D. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 05:39, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
::The Weezing? What about that?--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 05:42, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
:::It's server issue. I uploaded it yesterday I believe. Archives has yet to sync with BP. Try hard refreshing, it should show. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 05:44, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
::::Okay. Anything else I might be able to help with?--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 05:46, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::Uh, I don't think so. I can't think of anyone right now who might need a section like that...Maybe Dawn or <strike>Misty</strike> May or something...--[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 05:51, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

== YOU IDIOT ==

Just saying as a record. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:41, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
:Gee, because you're such an winner. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 07:51, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

== An easier way to rename ALL the images ==

Copy the article's source into notepad, go to Edit ----> Replace and replace all the old names with the new names. That way you can avoid doing a little image name scavenger hunt that you did earlier. [[User:Koolboyman|Koolboyman]] 00:38, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
:Yeah, I'm aware. D: I was in a rush for class...D: --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 01:07, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

== Image uploading issues ==

Why I can't overwrite images on the Bulbagarden Archives? I'd like to replace the move images with broken (black) transparencies and using JPEG compression. --[[User:Turtwig Lover|Turtwig Lover]] 11:33, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
:It's probably because you are a new user; they aren't able to upload newer versions of files for some time. Keep editing file summaries or help out in some other way, until you are able to upload over the files. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 13:06, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

== Help ==
Alright, but could you please tell me on where to go on descussing the information I had just descussed on Isshu, and if it's Bulbagarden, how could I sigh in, because it won't let me for some reason? --User:Cynthia149 17:36, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
:It's because you haven't registered on the forums, I gave you some directions on how to register on your talk page. :D --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 16:35, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

== Sorry ==

I was just trying to get my starter thing right.I'm done now. --[[User:Batking30|Batking30]] 16:04, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
:Go easy on the edits and use the preview button to eliminate multiple edits then please~ D: --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 16:05, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

== My bad Psy ==

I am still sorta new to the Bulbapedia and editing wikis in general. The way I had my usertags before, I could only delete them one section at a time (or so I thought, before {{u|Phantomjunkie}} set me straight, see {{ut|Jediknightdtv|my talkpage}}). I am working on getting them all in one infobox, that way I can edit them all at once by just editing the infobox. BTW, I am planning on getting started on writing summaries for the episodes that need them soon, when I have time. My point is, it was a one time thing, and I promise it will not happen again. --[[User:Jediknightdtv|JediKnight]][[User talk:Jediknightdtv|DTV]] 23:26, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

== Unblock ==

Please You unblock me. I really wanna' to put some pictures of Cynthia's Garchomp and many more, cuz i have a lot of pictures, please unblock me and this thing will not happen again. (Milotic.ho)
:Your two week block expires today automatically. However, you have shown us you don't know how to categorize or tag pictures properly. Because of this, you've been blocked multiple times. If you want to stay unblocked, I suggest you learn how to categorize and tag properly or you might face a four week block. And a side note, having your brother come to my talk page and call me a diva and a bitch and threatening me, really didn't intimidate me, and it didn't persuade me to consider unblocking you. Next time, come talk to me here since you're free here or email me via the "e-mail this user" on the side bar to discuss the block with me, and I can bring it up with the Editor in Chief. Thank you. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 17:27, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

== Huh? ==

Why did you [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User%3APsychicRider%2FPok%C3%A9mon_League_%28Isshu%29&action=historysubmit&diff=1192993&oldid=1192889 revert me]? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 14:06, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
:I guess I must have clicked rollback and not noticed it, cause when I went to change the T's back to t's, it said I was editing an out of date diff. If you had clicked to see the newer edits, you'd see that I did change it back, save for the trainer to Trainer bit. I'm not particularly favored toward that. It seems so out of place. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 16:32, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
::Yeah I had seen that you put the number fix back. Well, "Trainer" is meant to be spelled like that, as it is always spelled that way in the games (Generation I might not, but it also had "Clefairies"). In addition, there was another instance of capital Trainer on the page, and they should all be the same way, so I went with the offical way. However, the page is in your userspace, so these can stay the way that you want them, but will be fixed once it is moved to the mainspace so I don't see any point in leaving them as "trainer". --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 03:38, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

==Thanks!==
Thank you for doing my teensey edit on the Vaporeon page! ^^ [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 19:33, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:No problem. Looking into the protection, it was protected around the time where Hydration was announced as its Dream World ability, so it was protected against speculation being added. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 19:49, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
::Oh! Okay, I guess that makes sense, then! Thanks again. ^^ [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 20:03, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:::However, since it was revealed that it does get the ability and so do most other Pokémon, I'll ask if an admin can unprotect it. :D --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 20:12, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
::::That would explain why Hydration is locked itself. I wanted to edit the Hydration page, so that the little picture of Mamanbou reveal itself (as its national number is known now), but couldn't do it, because the is locked. [[User:Yohrd|Yohrd]] 10:57, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::Thank you for telling me. :D. It's been changed~ --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 11:39, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
::::::No problem, meanwhile, I made a list of Gen V Pokemon who have the ability : - Pokémon | Second Ability - #535 Otamaru | Swift Swim - #536 Gamageru | Swift Swim - #537 Gamageroge | Swift Swim - #616 Chobomaki | Shell Armor - #617 Arigudaa | Sticky Hold [[User:Yohrd|Yohrd]] 13:10, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

== adeku. old-fashioned Japanese is spoken in a Japanese version. ==
Why did you erase it? Adeku speaks old-fashioned Japanese in a Japanese version. [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 23:36, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:Because it wasn't even a proper sentence. You can re add it if you make it into one. If I couldn't understand what you were trying to say there, I doubt anyone else could either. No offense. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 23:38, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
::"Adeku speaks old-fashioned Japanese in a Japanese version."
::I'm sorry by poor English. May I add this sentence again? [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 23:52, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:::Perhaps, "In the Japanese version of Pokémon Black and White, Adeku speaks formal Japanese." (or you can replace formal with old-fashioned) Not sure. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 23:58, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:::: Thank you for making appropriate sentences. [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 00:31, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

== Still not right. ==

It's still not confirmed in any way to be "based" off the New York area. Try "It has been confirmed by [[Junichi Masuda]] that the Isshu region draws inspiration from Manhattan, New York but is not explicitly based off of New York."

And then I'll shut up. ^^

Also, remove all traces of the word "base". We don't have the "base" of Isshu. We have it's "motif".

--[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 05:47, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
:Alrighty, thanks, I'll do it now. :P. I got tired of seeing the Isshu talk page being edited so I flipped out. Sorry >_>;;. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 05:53, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
::No, thank you, Psy! ^^ --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 06:05, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
::Considering the overwhelming evidence that points to it having inspiration from New York City and surrounding, and not directly based off of it, it was due for a change. D: --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 06:08, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
:::It's funny cause this would not have been done without my pushing for it! xD
:::Well, until Junichi releases an official statement anyway~
:::But yeah, thanks again! :3
:::--[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 06:10, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
::::No problem~ Happy to help. If anyone has a problem with it being changed for some neutrality, they can come talk to me. 8D --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 06:12, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::I'm just glad that the misconception since PokePia has been cleared up! (At least on Bulbapedia, anyway :3)
:::::Do you think I did a good job or bad job? Honestly.
:::::--[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 06:14, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::Well it would have been nice if you could have done it without getting on everyone's case and spamming talk pages excessively... —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 06:29, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::::It would have also been nice if more people had actually read the facts that both Game Freak and Nintendo posted instead of believing some non-official source.--[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 06:33, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

== Images in templates ==

I am not able to upload any of the images so that's why most of the templates are missing the images. [[User:Pattyman|Pattyman]] 23:16, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
:Ok? I've been around long enough to know that they don't show up. I reverted you because the image was an ugly jpg and I was going to get png images of them anyways, which I did. Thanks. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 23:20, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

== Some Pokémon are based on Mother/EarthBound characters! ==

Hi,

I just wanted to tell you that I discovered something...quite odd. It appears that two Pokémon, Mewtwo and Deoxys, are actually based from characters of the EarthBound series!

Mewtwo may be based on {{wp|Giegue}} (Giygas), the main anatagonist of the Japan-only {{wp|Mother (video game)}} , before his body and soul were destroyed by its own PSI powers in {{wp|EarthBound (series)}}. Since many people working for APE.inc, including Benimaru Itoh, went on to Game Freak to create the Pokémon Series, it is possible that Mewtwo may be based on Giegue. Also, EVE(not the female droid from WALL-E!), a space alien virus, share this cliché with {{p|Deoxys}} The reason fans think Deoxys may be based on EVE from {{wp|Mother (video game)}}, is because both are alien space viruses who went under mutation when they were struck by a laser beam, and with the fact that most people who produced the {{wp|EarthBound (series)}} went to create the Pokémon series, it is very likely that EVE was Deoxys' origin.

Not only that, but Giegue/Mewtwo are extremely similar, only Giegue is blue, has a sereine face, has a warm heart and has longer and bigger 'ears' than Mewtwo's. EVE's sprite is almost identical to Deoxys' Normal Forme, so I don't think there's a coincidence between these two Pokémon and EarthBound aliens. What do you think? [[User:TokoyamiTheDark|TokoyamiTheDark]] 23:18, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
:Personally, I don't see the similarities in any of them, especially since I have never played Mother/Earthbound, but if you think that it's notable, you should talk to one of the higher-ups. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 23:25, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
::Ok. I think I should talk to Jello about the EarthBound coincidences, since she's the leader of the CharacterDex. I've seen websites showing these Pokémon/EarthBound clichés too, with comparaison images, but I can't seem to find them back... [[User:TokoyamiTheDark|TokoyamiTheDark]] 23:32, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
:::Uh actually, Psy is the leader of CharacterDex. You might want to bring this up with either Sol or Tina since they've played Earthbound, and are more likely more knowledgeable in this area. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 23:34, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
::::Honestly I don't see what "being knowledgeable with EarthBound" has to do with this. :V It's just taking a look at the similarities and see if it's notable to mention. I would say that they're just coincidences, especially with Mewtwo and Deoxys being released eons apart, meaning it's not very likely for Deoxys to be based off of EVE anyway. '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 23:38, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

== Listen Psychic ==

I'm not trying to make you mad. Believe me, that is the last thing I would want to do.

However, please remember I'm trying to maintain what we know for sure. I'll show you exactly what I put on Umeko's talk page:

The wording I revised, and there wasn't much if anything, was the things that, if you notice, give the reader the feeling that Isshu is New York. This, however, is not confirmed by anyone that actually have the authority to confirm it. The interview on Nintendo.co.jp and blog 177 on Game Freak's blog directly say : "New York is Isshu's motif". If you'll notice how many times I've pointed out that Motif does not mean Basis/Model/Stage, you would also notice how neutral I made the text while maintaining the statement "Isshu uses New York as it's motif". Please understand that I'm not saying it is not possible for Game Freak to come out later and outright say "New York is Isshu". I'm just saying it hasn't been said yet. And frankly, I want Bulbapedia to be as accurate as possible. --Mackinz of SoulSilver 02:40, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

== N's Castle ==
You can say the article sucks, but I put effort into that thing. {{unsigned|Cool469}}
:For one, you didn't even use correct link templates. It should not be <nowiki>[[Zoroark]]</nowiki>, it should be <nowiki>{{p|Zoroark}}</nowiki>. You might want to check out the {{bp|list of link templates}}. It'll help. Second, you should have categorized it better and since there was not a lot of stuff on the page, placed an <nowiki>{{incomplete}}</nowiki> tag at the top and a <nowiki>{{Stub|Location}}</nowiki> tag at the bottom because it is both a stub and a location. Third, after you comment, please type <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> for a signature, thanks. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 05:45, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

== Quick question ==

What's the limit on how long your signature can be? And can we use pages like [User:The Exterminator/Sig] for substituting signatures? (And yes I know that's not a full link right there.) [[User:The Exterminator|The Exterminator]] 18:18, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
:I'm pretty sure that there is no length limit, but I know that signature templates are not allowed. The {{bp|signature policy}} has all the details on signatures. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 18:44, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
Well, it's not exactly a template, so I wasn't sure if it's allowed or not. When I sign, it would do this: <pre> ~~~~ → <nowiki>{{subst:User:The Exterminator/Sig}}</nowiki> → <nowiki>[[User:The Exterminator|blah blah blah]]</nowiki></pre> It works fine and hasn't glitched with the text alignment and stuff yet, but the policy about no templates had me questioning. [[User:The Exterminator|The Exterminator]] 18:58, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
:It does the same thing as using the signature box in the preferences, since it just puts in the coding that's on the page. [[User:The Exterminator|The Exterminator]] 19:07, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
::Using curly brackets to include it on another page is pretty much the definition of a template, making it a sig template, which is not allowed. Also, {{bp|Signature Policy#Signature guidelines|there is a limit}} of 80 rendered characters, but I believe that the preferences box will also only accept about 130 odd characters. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 19:13, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
Okay, thanks. '''''[[User:The Exterminator|The Exterminator]]'''''[[User talk:The Exterminator|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/The Exterminator|Contribs.]] 19:25, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

== Permission ==

Hey Psy, would you mind if I use a coding similar to your's (Contact ME section only) of your userpage? I really want to get rid of the ugly contact section from my userspace and I tried replacing it with your's (but slight color change) and it looked perfect. But I need your permission, if it's not ok then no problemo. So, can I use it or not? ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 12:33, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
:Yeah sure, i don't mind. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 15:43, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
::Thanks :) ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 16:52, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

== Requests? ==

Is it possible to make requests for you? Because I've made these following requests for [[User:Tc26|another user]] quite a while ago, but nothing has happened. I'm really impressed of your pictures' quality and amount, so I decided to ask from you next.
*Images of [[Ash's Pikachu]] using {{m|Tackle}} (yes, {{tt|it has used the move|...even though we know Pikachu cannot learn the move in the games.}}, for example in [[EP118]], [[EP143]] and [[EP183]]) and {{m|Agility}}.
*Image of [[Ash's Gliscor]] using {{m|Sandstorm}} (used at the beginning of [[DP100]]).
*<strike>Image of [[Sabrina's Kadabra]] using {{m|Teleport}} (besides as an Abra, it also used the move after the evolution during the rematch)</strike> and a better picture of it using {{m|Confusion}} (I mean that part where it uses the move to redirect Pikachu's attack back at it, not that current one where its eyes just faintly glow before that (there was that kind of a image, but it was deleted)).
*<strike>Image of [[Dewgong (Cerulean Gym)|Cerulean Gym's Dewgong]] using some move as a Dewgong.</strike>
*Images for the [[Pichu Brothers]]', [[Team Go-Getters]]' and [[Team Meanies]]' Gengar's move templates.
*Better pictures for [[Gary Oak]]'s Dodrio, Magmar, Golem, Scizor and unseen Pokémon.
*A better pic of [[Brandon's Regis#Regirock|Brandon's Regirock]] using {{m|Lock-On}} (I'm trying to get at least two pics for everyone of Brandon's golems' move templates, but I'm short with Regirock and Registeel).
*<strike>A better pic for [[Misty's Horsea]]'s move template.</strike>
*<strike>Better pictures of [[Agatha]]'s Gengar and Golbat. </strike>
Hope that wasn't too much. Hope you can handle the job. :) --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] 16:24, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
:Uh, yeah, I can do it or at least get some of them that I can done. :D --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 17:06, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
::Not with anything bad, but that Dodrio is very small in its pic... --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] 18:39, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
:::I used the Chronicles episode cause the image was more pleasant to look at and the only other images of it using Drill Peck and it has like 5 heads in it from the animation. D;. If I can find a better one I'll change it. Also, Ash's Gliscor used Sand Attack and Staravia used Gust/Whirlwind along with it to create a sandstorm, are you using it for like a moves improvised, cause otherwise, it's not an actual move it used. Uh, I don't know if I'll be able to get the later Johto ones or the MD ones without them having logos, and uh Regirock either is in it's pose to do Lock On, or the effect is on Sceptile, so lemme know what you want~. Thank you. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 18:43, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

== Re: Breeding in Gen V ==

I can find nothing on Eggs, Pokemon Breeding or even the location of the daycare in Gen V on their respective pages. I know eggs weren't removed (and the lack of information about them is probably due to everyone doing other, more important things) but could you tell me two things?

1. Do Eggs have a type as of now with the removal of the ???-type?

2. Where is the Daycare Center in Isshu?

--[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 18:45, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
:I haven't bred anything yet so I don't know the first answer, and the Daycare is on [[Isshu Route 3]], north of [[Sanyou City]]. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 22:08, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
::Ah, thanks. The egg problem needs to be figured out though. Got any ideas who could answer? --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 01:16, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Darmanitan (Pokémon)

2010-10-20T01:15:20Z

Mackinz: /* Daruma mode = Dharma mode? */

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==Physiology==
Hihidaruma is a mainly red, squat ape-like Pokémon. Hihidaruma has long, bushy flame-colored eyebrows, curled at the beginning portions, and round, black-ringed eyes. The upper portion of its tan-colored face is separated from the lower portion by a diagonal stripe of red, and its large mouth sports spiked teeth. All these facial features give the impression of a manic or angered expression, and Hihidaruma’s head has no discernible neck to distinguish it from the rest of the body and its rounded back, which culminates in a stubby tail. It has long arms with spiky hair fringes on the wrists and large tan-colored hands, with a similar arrangement for its hind limbs. Additionally, Hihidaruma’s underside sports a patterning of three tan-colored ovals. [[User:Steph|Steph]] 18:52, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
:Done. --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 20:58, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

== Name Origin ==

I think this way would be a more complete origin:
Hihidaruma is a portmanteau of the words 狒狒 ''hihi'', baboon, 火だるま ''hidaruma'', body covered with flames and 達磨 ''daruma'', the Daruma Doll. [[User:KurowaSan|KurowaSan]] 06:12, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Shouldn't this be added?:
火 ''hi'' also means fire, refering to its type. --[[User:Pokequaza|Pokequaza]] 06:38, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

==Darumakka==
Pre-evolution almost guaranteed to exist. But I guess we wait until confirmation? --[[User:Element03|Element03]] 04:18, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

like always... [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 04:24, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

== Daruma Sprite ==

Can anyone pute this image into the page. [[Image:555D.png]]

== Daruma Mode and EVs ==

Do we know how the EVs work? It says Attack and Special Attack are swapped but is that really the case? If you EV-trained in Attack and Hihidaruma switches to Daruma mode, do those EVs get transferred to special attack?
In other words, Atk/SpAtk would be 203/30 base in normal mode if Attack is maxed. In Daruma Mode does this go to 30/203, or 93/140?
:The EVs themselves wouldn't transfer, but that's a moot point anyway, since four EVs equals one extra stat point (unless that changed in B/W). Whatever the Attack stat is after the EV training would then become the Special Attack stat in Daruma Mode, and vice versa. [[User:Phantomjunkie|Phantom]]♫[[User talk:Phantomjunkie|Junkie]] 13:55, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

== Daruma mode = Dharma mode? ==

The Daruma doll, after all, is based off of {{wp|Bodhidharma}} so maybe the "Daruma mode" of Hihidaruma's found in the desert could be seen as Hihidaruma achieving enlightenment like Bohdidharma and succesive dharmas did? --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 18:24, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

:Fixed your link. And that's actually an interesting observation. Perhaps that should go in its Origin section? --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 20:34, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
::My link was broken...? Weird. I doubled checked that link. Ah well. Anyway, this observation was made when I was researching Daruma dolls (I'll tell you on dA if you're interested why) and it should definitely go into the "Origin" section because I've been finding a few deeper bases for certain Pokemon. The current "Origin" section does not give enough of a thought to the "Dharma mode" idea. --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 01:15, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

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2010-10-19T18:45:19Z

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== Kanoko Town (2) ==

Sorry about not replying earlier. I actually don't know which scan Serebii used, he just posted it on the main page of his site. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 01:33, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
:Well, according to Ume and Tina, the scan says Kanoko Town. Is Serebii referring to the starting town or the other city that starts with a K? --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 02:06, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
::He said Starter Town, but now he removed that spelling and has Kanako Town....guess that puts that theory to rest. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 03:00, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
:::Hmm, both he and Pokébeach had that spelling on it, but the scan had Kanoko Town on it. But oh well, we got the problem solved. 8D. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 03:08, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

== CongRAHtulations! ==

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For your teamwork and leadership on the Bulbagarden Archives, this award is to be shared with Jello and ht14. Thanks for your effort and well done. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 00:45, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
:Congratulations. [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig's]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A-B-Cs]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 01:10, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
::Hur hur, I see what you did thar Trom with that section title, and thank you Tromie~. |D. Also thanks Turtwig~. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 01:14, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
:::Congrats sucka! Good teamwork! —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 01:16, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
::::Congrats gurl! With our unbeatable combination, we can't lose to anyone! *battle music plays* --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 01:22, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

== Block Discuss ==

I'M so sorry but may you please unblock me. I know how to categorize pictures, I just unploaded pictures in a hurry, i swear this thing will never happed again if you just unblock me! {{unsigned|Milotic.ho}}
:Alright, I've unblocked you, but please remember to categorize. Thank you. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 22:16, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

== {{Ash}}'s Temporary Pokémon ==

I've uploaded a pic of Ash's Seaking to the archives. I'll work on getting some pics for the rest.--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 05:29, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
:Jello uploaded Ash's Rapidash and his Hoothoot, so we're good. Thanks. 8D. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 05:39, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
::The Weezing? What about that?--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 05:42, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
:::It's server issue. I uploaded it yesterday I believe. Archives has yet to sync with BP. Try hard refreshing, it should show. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 05:44, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
::::Okay. Anything else I might be able to help with?--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 05:46, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::Uh, I don't think so. I can't think of anyone right now who might need a section like that...Maybe Dawn or <strike>Misty</strike> May or something...--[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 05:51, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

== YOU IDIOT ==

Just saying as a record. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:41, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
:Gee, because you're such an winner. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 07:51, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

== An easier way to rename ALL the images ==

Copy the article's source into notepad, go to Edit ----> Replace and replace all the old names with the new names. That way you can avoid doing a little image name scavenger hunt that you did earlier. [[User:Koolboyman|Koolboyman]] 00:38, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
:Yeah, I'm aware. D: I was in a rush for class...D: --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 01:07, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

== Image uploading issues ==

Why I can't overwrite images on the Bulbagarden Archives? I'd like to replace the move images with broken (black) transparencies and using JPEG compression. --[[User:Turtwig Lover|Turtwig Lover]] 11:33, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
:It's probably because you are a new user; they aren't able to upload newer versions of files for some time. Keep editing file summaries or help out in some other way, until you are able to upload over the files. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 13:06, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

== Help ==
Alright, but could you please tell me on where to go on descussing the information I had just descussed on Isshu, and if it's Bulbagarden, how could I sigh in, because it won't let me for some reason? --User:Cynthia149 17:36, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
:It's because you haven't registered on the forums, I gave you some directions on how to register on your talk page. :D --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 16:35, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

== Sorry ==

I was just trying to get my starter thing right.I'm done now. --[[User:Batking30|Batking30]] 16:04, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
:Go easy on the edits and use the preview button to eliminate multiple edits then please~ D: --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 16:05, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

== My bad Psy ==

I am still sorta new to the Bulbapedia and editing wikis in general. The way I had my usertags before, I could only delete them one section at a time (or so I thought, before {{u|Phantomjunkie}} set me straight, see {{ut|Jediknightdtv|my talkpage}}). I am working on getting them all in one infobox, that way I can edit them all at once by just editing the infobox. BTW, I am planning on getting started on writing summaries for the episodes that need them soon, when I have time. My point is, it was a one time thing, and I promise it will not happen again. --[[User:Jediknightdtv|JediKnight]][[User talk:Jediknightdtv|DTV]] 23:26, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

== Unblock ==

Please You unblock me. I really wanna' to put some pictures of Cynthia's Garchomp and many more, cuz i have a lot of pictures, please unblock me and this thing will not happen again. (Milotic.ho)
:Your two week block expires today automatically. However, you have shown us you don't know how to categorize or tag pictures properly. Because of this, you've been blocked multiple times. If you want to stay unblocked, I suggest you learn how to categorize and tag properly or you might face a four week block. And a side note, having your brother come to my talk page and call me a diva and a bitch and threatening me, really didn't intimidate me, and it didn't persuade me to consider unblocking you. Next time, come talk to me here since you're free here or email me via the "e-mail this user" on the side bar to discuss the block with me, and I can bring it up with the Editor in Chief. Thank you. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 17:27, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

== Huh? ==

Why did you [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=User%3APsychicRider%2FPok%C3%A9mon_League_%28Isshu%29&action=historysubmit&diff=1192993&oldid=1192889 revert me]? --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 14:06, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
:I guess I must have clicked rollback and not noticed it, cause when I went to change the T's back to t's, it said I was editing an out of date diff. If you had clicked to see the newer edits, you'd see that I did change it back, save for the trainer to Trainer bit. I'm not particularly favored toward that. It seems so out of place. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 16:32, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
::Yeah I had seen that you put the number fix back. Well, "Trainer" is meant to be spelled like that, as it is always spelled that way in the games (Generation I might not, but it also had "Clefairies"). In addition, there was another instance of capital Trainer on the page, and they should all be the same way, so I went with the offical way. However, the page is in your userspace, so these can stay the way that you want them, but will be fixed once it is moved to the mainspace so I don't see any point in leaving them as "trainer". --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 03:38, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

==Thanks!==
Thank you for doing my teensey edit on the Vaporeon page! ^^ [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 19:33, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:No problem. Looking into the protection, it was protected around the time where Hydration was announced as its Dream World ability, so it was protected against speculation being added. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 19:49, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
::Oh! Okay, I guess that makes sense, then! Thanks again. ^^ [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 20:03, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:::However, since it was revealed that it does get the ability and so do most other Pokémon, I'll ask if an admin can unprotect it. :D --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 20:12, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
::::That would explain why Hydration is locked itself. I wanted to edit the Hydration page, so that the little picture of Mamanbou reveal itself (as its national number is known now), but couldn't do it, because the is locked. [[User:Yohrd|Yohrd]] 10:57, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::Thank you for telling me. :D. It's been changed~ --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 11:39, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
::::::No problem, meanwhile, I made a list of Gen V Pokemon who have the ability : - Pokémon | Second Ability - #535 Otamaru | Swift Swim - #536 Gamageru | Swift Swim - #537 Gamageroge | Swift Swim - #616 Chobomaki | Shell Armor - #617 Arigudaa | Sticky Hold [[User:Yohrd|Yohrd]] 13:10, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

== adeku. old-fashioned Japanese is spoken in a Japanese version. ==
Why did you erase it? Adeku speaks old-fashioned Japanese in a Japanese version. [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 23:36, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:Because it wasn't even a proper sentence. You can re add it if you make it into one. If I couldn't understand what you were trying to say there, I doubt anyone else could either. No offense. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 23:38, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
::"Adeku speaks old-fashioned Japanese in a Japanese version."
::I'm sorry by poor English. May I add this sentence again? [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 23:52, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:::Perhaps, "In the Japanese version of Pokémon Black and White, Adeku speaks formal Japanese." (or you can replace formal with old-fashioned) Not sure. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 23:58, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
:::: Thank you for making appropriate sentences. [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 00:31, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

== Still not right. ==

It's still not confirmed in any way to be "based" off the New York area. Try "It has been confirmed by [[Junichi Masuda]] that the Isshu region draws inspiration from Manhattan, New York but is not explicitly based off of New York."

And then I'll shut up. ^^

Also, remove all traces of the word "base". We don't have the "base" of Isshu. We have it's "motif".

--[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 05:47, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
:Alrighty, thanks, I'll do it now. :P. I got tired of seeing the Isshu talk page being edited so I flipped out. Sorry >_>;;. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 05:53, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
::No, thank you, Psy! ^^ --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 06:05, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
::Considering the overwhelming evidence that points to it having inspiration from New York City and surrounding, and not directly based off of it, it was due for a change. D: --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 06:08, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
:::It's funny cause this would not have been done without my pushing for it! xD
:::Well, until Junichi releases an official statement anyway~
:::But yeah, thanks again! :3
:::--[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 06:10, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
::::No problem~ Happy to help. If anyone has a problem with it being changed for some neutrality, they can come talk to me. 8D --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 06:12, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::I'm just glad that the misconception since PokePia has been cleared up! (At least on Bulbapedia, anyway :3)
:::::Do you think I did a good job or bad job? Honestly.
:::::--[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 06:14, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::Well it would have been nice if you could have done it without getting on everyone's case and spamming talk pages excessively... —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 06:29, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::::It would have also been nice if more people had actually read the facts that both Game Freak and Nintendo posted instead of believing some non-official source.--[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 06:33, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

== Images in templates ==

I am not able to upload any of the images so that's why most of the templates are missing the images. [[User:Pattyman|Pattyman]] 23:16, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
:Ok? I've been around long enough to know that they don't show up. I reverted you because the image was an ugly jpg and I was going to get png images of them anyways, which I did. Thanks. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 23:20, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

== Some Pokémon are based on Mother/EarthBound characters! ==

Hi,

I just wanted to tell you that I discovered something...quite odd. It appears that two Pokémon, Mewtwo and Deoxys, are actually based from characters of the EarthBound series!

Mewtwo may be based on {{wp|Giegue}} (Giygas), the main anatagonist of the Japan-only {{wp|Mother (video game)}} , before his body and soul were destroyed by its own PSI powers in {{wp|EarthBound (series)}}. Since many people working for APE.inc, including Benimaru Itoh, went on to Game Freak to create the Pokémon Series, it is possible that Mewtwo may be based on Giegue. Also, EVE(not the female droid from WALL-E!), a space alien virus, share this cliché with {{p|Deoxys}} The reason fans think Deoxys may be based on EVE from {{wp|Mother (video game)}}, is because both are alien space viruses who went under mutation when they were struck by a laser beam, and with the fact that most people who produced the {{wp|EarthBound (series)}} went to create the Pokémon series, it is very likely that EVE was Deoxys' origin.

Not only that, but Giegue/Mewtwo are extremely similar, only Giegue is blue, has a sereine face, has a warm heart and has longer and bigger 'ears' than Mewtwo's. EVE's sprite is almost identical to Deoxys' Normal Forme, so I don't think there's a coincidence between these two Pokémon and EarthBound aliens. What do you think? [[User:TokoyamiTheDark|TokoyamiTheDark]] 23:18, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
:Personally, I don't see the similarities in any of them, especially since I have never played Mother/Earthbound, but if you think that it's notable, you should talk to one of the higher-ups. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 23:25, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
::Ok. I think I should talk to Jello about the EarthBound coincidences, since she's the leader of the CharacterDex. I've seen websites showing these Pokémon/EarthBound clichés too, with comparaison images, but I can't seem to find them back... [[User:TokoyamiTheDark|TokoyamiTheDark]] 23:32, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
:::Uh actually, Psy is the leader of CharacterDex. You might want to bring this up with either Sol or Tina since they've played Earthbound, and are more likely more knowledgeable in this area. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 23:34, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
::::Honestly I don't see what "being knowledgeable with EarthBound" has to do with this. :V It's just taking a look at the similarities and see if it's notable to mention. I would say that they're just coincidences, especially with Mewtwo and Deoxys being released eons apart, meaning it's not very likely for Deoxys to be based off of EVE anyway. '''~ [[User:Sol|sol]][[User talk:Sol|ar]][[Special:Contributions/Sol|is]]''' 23:38, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

== Listen Psychic ==

I'm not trying to make you mad. Believe me, that is the last thing I would want to do.

However, please remember I'm trying to maintain what we know for sure. I'll show you exactly what I put on Umeko's talk page:

The wording I revised, and there wasn't much if anything, was the things that, if you notice, give the reader the feeling that Isshu is New York. This, however, is not confirmed by anyone that actually have the authority to confirm it. The interview on Nintendo.co.jp and blog 177 on Game Freak's blog directly say : "New York is Isshu's motif". If you'll notice how many times I've pointed out that Motif does not mean Basis/Model/Stage, you would also notice how neutral I made the text while maintaining the statement "Isshu uses New York as it's motif". Please understand that I'm not saying it is not possible for Game Freak to come out later and outright say "New York is Isshu". I'm just saying it hasn't been said yet. And frankly, I want Bulbapedia to be as accurate as possible. --Mackinz of SoulSilver 02:40, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

== N's Castle ==
You can say the article sucks, but I put effort into that thing. {{unsigned|Cool469}}
:For one, you didn't even use correct link templates. It should not be <nowiki>[[Zoroark]]</nowiki>, it should be <nowiki>{{p|Zoroark}}</nowiki>. You might want to check out the {{bp|list of link templates}}. It'll help. Second, you should have categorized it better and since there was not a lot of stuff on the page, placed an <nowiki>{{incomplete}}</nowiki> tag at the top and a <nowiki>{{Stub|Location}}</nowiki> tag at the bottom because it is both a stub and a location. Third, after you comment, please type <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> for a signature, thanks. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 05:45, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

== Quick question ==

What's the limit on how long your signature can be? And can we use pages like [User:The Exterminator/Sig] for substituting signatures? (And yes I know that's not a full link right there.) [[User:The Exterminator|The Exterminator]] 18:18, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
:I'm pretty sure that there is no length limit, but I know that signature templates are not allowed. The {{bp|signature policy}} has all the details on signatures. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 18:44, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
Well, it's not exactly a template, so I wasn't sure if it's allowed or not. When I sign, it would do this: <pre> ~~~~ → <nowiki>{{subst:User:The Exterminator/Sig}}</nowiki> → <nowiki>[[User:The Exterminator|blah blah blah]]</nowiki></pre> It works fine and hasn't glitched with the text alignment and stuff yet, but the policy about no templates had me questioning. [[User:The Exterminator|The Exterminator]] 18:58, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
:It does the same thing as using the signature box in the preferences, since it just puts in the coding that's on the page. [[User:The Exterminator|The Exterminator]] 19:07, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
::Using curly brackets to include it on another page is pretty much the definition of a template, making it a sig template, which is not allowed. Also, {{bp|Signature Policy#Signature guidelines|there is a limit}} of 80 rendered characters, but I believe that the preferences box will also only accept about 130 odd characters. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 19:13, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
Okay, thanks. '''''[[User:The Exterminator|The Exterminator]]'''''[[User talk:The Exterminator|Talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/The Exterminator|Contribs.]] 19:25, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

== Permission ==

Hey Psy, would you mind if I use a coding similar to your's (Contact ME section only) of your userpage? I really want to get rid of the ugly contact section from my userspace and I tried replacing it with your's (but slight color change) and it looked perfect. But I need your permission, if it's not ok then no problemo. So, can I use it or not? ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 12:33, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
:Yeah sure, i don't mind. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 15:43, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
::Thanks :) ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 16:52, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

== Requests? ==

Is it possible to make requests for you? Because I've made these following requests for [[User:Tc26|another user]] quite a while ago, but nothing has happened. I'm really impressed of your pictures' quality and amount, so I decided to ask from you next.
*Images of [[Ash's Pikachu]] using {{m|Tackle}} (yes, {{tt|it has used the move|...even though we know Pikachu cannot learn the move in the games.}}, for example in [[EP118]], [[EP143]] and [[EP183]]) and {{m|Agility}}.
*Image of [[Ash's Gliscor]] using {{m|Sandstorm}} (used at the beginning of [[DP100]]).
*<strike>Image of [[Sabrina's Kadabra]] using {{m|Teleport}} (besides as an Abra, it also used the move after the evolution during the rematch)</strike> and a better picture of it using {{m|Confusion}} (I mean that part where it uses the move to redirect Pikachu's attack back at it, not that current one where its eyes just faintly glow before that (there was that kind of a image, but it was deleted)).
*<strike>Image of [[Dewgong (Cerulean Gym)|Cerulean Gym's Dewgong]] using some move as a Dewgong.</strike>
*Images for the [[Pichu Brothers]]', [[Team Go-Getters]]' and [[Team Meanies]]' Gengar's move templates.
*Better pictures for [[Gary Oak]]'s Dodrio, Magmar, Golem, Scizor and unseen Pokémon.
*A better pic of [[Brandon's Regis#Regirock|Brandon's Regirock]] using {{m|Lock-On}} (I'm trying to get at least two pics for everyone of Brandon's golems' move templates, but I'm short with Regirock and Registeel).
*<strike>A better pic for [[Misty's Horsea]]'s move template.</strike>
*<strike>Better pictures of [[Agatha]]'s Gengar and Golbat. </strike>
Hope that wasn't too much. Hope you can handle the job. :) --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] 16:24, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
:Uh, yeah, I can do it or at least get some of them that I can done. :D --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 17:06, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
::Not with anything bad, but that Dodrio is very small in its pic... --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] 18:39, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
:::I used the Chronicles episode cause the image was more pleasant to look at and the only other images of it using Drill Peck and it has like 5 heads in it from the animation. D;. If I can find a better one I'll change it. Also, Ash's Gliscor used Sand Attack and Staravia used Gust/Whirlwind along with it to create a sandstorm, are you using it for like a moves improvised, cause otherwise, it's not an actual move it used. Uh, I don't know if I'll be able to get the later Johto ones or the MD ones without them having logos, and uh Regirock either is in it's pose to do Lock On, or the effect is on Sceptile, so lemme know what you want~. Thank you. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 18:43, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

== Re: Breeding in Gen V ==

I can find nothing on Eggs, Pokemon Breeding or even the location of the daycare in Gen V on their respective pages. I know eggs weren't removed (and the lack of information about them is probably due to everyone doing other, more important things) but could you tell me two things?

1. Do Eggs have a type as of now with the removal of the ???-type?

2. Where is the Daycare Center in Isshu?

--[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 18:45, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Darmanitan (Pokémon)

2010-10-19T18:28:37Z

Mackinz: /* Daruma mode = Dharma mode? */

{{forums notice|March 31, 2011}}
==Physiology==
Hihidaruma is a mainly red, squat ape-like Pokémon. Hihidaruma has long, bushy flame-colored eyebrows, curled at the beginning portions, and round, black-ringed eyes. The upper portion of its tan-colored face is separated from the lower portion by a diagonal stripe of red, and its large mouth sports spiked teeth. All these facial features give the impression of a manic or angered expression, and Hihidaruma’s head has no discernible neck to distinguish it from the rest of the body and its rounded back, which culminates in a stubby tail. It has long arms with spiky hair fringes on the wrists and large tan-colored hands, with a similar arrangement for its hind limbs. Additionally, Hihidaruma’s underside sports a patterning of three tan-colored ovals. [[User:Steph|Steph]] 18:52, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
:Done. --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 20:58, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

== Name Origin ==

I think this way would be a more complete origin:
Hihidaruma is a portmanteau of the words 狒狒 ''hihi'', baboon, 火だるま ''hidaruma'', body covered with flames and 達磨 ''daruma'', the Daruma Doll. [[User:KurowaSan|KurowaSan]] 06:12, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Shouldn't this be added?:
火 ''hi'' also means fire, refering to its type. --[[User:Pokequaza|Pokequaza]] 06:38, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

==Darumakka==
Pre-evolution almost guaranteed to exist. But I guess we wait until confirmation? --[[User:Element03|Element03]] 04:18, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

like always... [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 04:24, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

== Daruma Sprite ==

Can anyone pute this image into the page. [[Image:555D.png]]

== Daruma Mode and EVs ==

Do we know how the EVs work? It says Attack and Special Attack are swapped but is that really the case? If you EV-trained in Attack and Hihidaruma switches to Daruma mode, do those EVs get transferred to special attack?
In other words, Atk/SpAtk would be 203/30 base in normal mode if Attack is maxed. In Daruma Mode does this go to 30/203, or 93/140?
:The EVs themselves wouldn't transfer, but that's a moot point anyway, since four EVs equals one extra stat point (unless that changed in B/W). Whatever the Attack stat is after the EV training would then become the Special Attack stat in Daruma Mode, and vice versa. [[User:Phantomjunkie|Phantom]]♫[[User talk:Phantomjunkie|Junkie]] 13:55, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

== Daruma mode = Dharma mode? ==

The Daruma doll, after all, is based off of {{wp|Bohdidharma}} so maybe the "Daruma mode" of Hihidaruma's found in the desert could be seen as Hihidaruma achieving enlightenment like Bohdidharma and succesive dharmas did? --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 18:24, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Darmanitan (Pokémon)

2010-10-19T18:24:56Z

Mackinz: /* Daruma mode = Dharma mode? */ new section

{{forums notice|March 31, 2011}}
==Physiology==
Hihidaruma is a mainly red, squat ape-like Pokémon. Hihidaruma has long, bushy flame-colored eyebrows, curled at the beginning portions, and round, black-ringed eyes. The upper portion of its tan-colored face is separated from the lower portion by a diagonal stripe of red, and its large mouth sports spiked teeth. All these facial features give the impression of a manic or angered expression, and Hihidaruma’s head has no discernible neck to distinguish it from the rest of the body and its rounded back, which culminates in a stubby tail. It has long arms with spiky hair fringes on the wrists and large tan-colored hands, with a similar arrangement for its hind limbs. Additionally, Hihidaruma’s underside sports a patterning of three tan-colored ovals. [[User:Steph|Steph]] 18:52, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
:Done. --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 20:58, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

== Name Origin ==

I think this way would be a more complete origin:
Hihidaruma is a portmanteau of the words 狒狒 ''hihi'', baboon, 火だるま ''hidaruma'', body covered with flames and 達磨 ''daruma'', the Daruma Doll. [[User:KurowaSan|KurowaSan]] 06:12, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Shouldn't this be added?:
火 ''hi'' also means fire, refering to its type. --[[User:Pokequaza|Pokequaza]] 06:38, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

==Darumakka==
Pre-evolution almost guaranteed to exist. But I guess we wait until confirmation? --[[User:Element03|Element03]] 04:18, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

like always... [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 04:24, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

== Daruma Sprite ==

Can anyone pute this image into the page. [[Image:555D.png]]

== Daruma Mode and EVs ==

Do we know how the EVs work? It says Attack and Special Attack are swapped but is that really the case? If you EV-trained in Attack and Hihidaruma switches to Daruma mode, do those EVs get transferred to special attack?
In other words, Atk/SpAtk would be 203/30 base in normal mode if Attack is maxed. In Daruma Mode does this go to 30/203, or 93/140?
:The EVs themselves wouldn't transfer, but that's a moot point anyway, since four EVs equals one extra stat point (unless that changed in B/W). Whatever the Attack stat is after the EV training would then become the Special Attack stat in Daruma Mode, and vice versa. [[User:Phantomjunkie|Phantom]]♫[[User talk:Phantomjunkie|Junkie]] 13:55, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

== Daruma mode = Dharma mode? ==

The Daruma doll, after all, is based off of {{wp|Bohdidharma}} so maybe the "Daruma mode" Hihidaruma's found at the could be seen as Hihidaruma achieving enlightenment like Bohdidharma and succesive dharmas did? --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 18:24, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

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2010-10-15T20:01:25Z

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==[[User talk:SnorlaxMonster#About stuff ]]==
You said to remind you if you left it too long. I think this is long enough. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 10:13, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
:Me too. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:58, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

== Hi, I'm new ==

I need a bit of help, and this is pretty odd, but... How do I get new box backgrounds in Jubilife TV, again?

[[User:Togepikachu|TogePikachu]] 07:41, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
:The best place to ask questions like this is on the Bulbagarden forums. However: the box background is called [[wallpaper]] and we have an article about that with links to generators. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:45, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

== Archive Images ==

Hello Trom. I know it says not to ask, but I need some of the images [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Category:Candidates_for_moving |moved on the archive] as some of those are over a month old. I mainly need the Sprout Tower and Union Cave Eyecatches moved as I fixed the pages to correspond with their new locations. If I get could get some help it would be much appreciated. Thanks! –'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 20:44, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
:Done. Next time though, don't create new images. Redirects work wonders. Don't forget about the DPPtHGSS sprites. We don't have a [[a:File:Spr 4p 001.png]] for instance. That's just a redirect. MK, can you upload Curelean Cave-Day though? [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 20:48, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
::Thanks Ht for doing that for me. I will make sure to use redirects, it just that I didn't know exactly how those worked for images. It was also so people didn't look at it and think that we were being inaccurate or something. Cerulean Cave was one of the first ones that I was working on so I forgot to check to make sure every image was there. I will make sure to upload it though and look over the rest. Thanks again. –'''[[User talk:MasterKenobi|Master]][[User:MasterKenobi|Kenobi]]''' 05:37, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

==Body?==
Found one more: [[Template:GlitchPkmnInfobox]], but it's hidden so only gen 3 and 4 Pokémon have it. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:44, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
:Done. As is the other glitch template thing you got me to do ↑up there↑ (if you hadn't noticed). —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 11:47, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
::Yes, I saw that. I started removing those Color redirects from articles, but there is still a problem with [[Template:Moveentry]] and [[Template:Movelistglitch]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:22, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
:::Also, the defaults on [[Template:GlitchEvobox/Setup]] simply need to be changed from Bird to Unknown. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:50, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
::::Evobox is done. I don't see what needs to be chaned on moveentry - this template is used on move articles only. Do you perhaps mean {{template|mlentry1}}? Regarding {{template|Movelistglitch}}: just put "Unknown" for the variable that would usually be a glitch type. The type is not written down anywhere on the template; all you are doing is calling a color template. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 13:03, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::It is written on the template, down the type column. So Glitch should be used instead of IIIItoto [[4 4#By leveling up|here]]? As for move entry, it's used {{m|Super Glitch|here}} and [[List of glitch moves|here]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:17, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
::::::That's actually on a different template which I have located and updated. The moventry should be done too now. Any further <s>demands</s> requests you have will be dealt with once I've woken up... in, like, five hours D: —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 13:26, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

== Retrieving sprites ==

Can u retrieve the egg sprites from Project:CustomSprites that would be very much appreciated. [[User:DoTheWave|DoTheWave]] 02:41, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
:Given the sheer volume of sprites that will take up a large amount of time that I currently don't have. I'll see what I can do later in the week, but no promises. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 06:55, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
::Sorry to barge in, but what do you need them for? If anything, ask {{u|Tavisource}}. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 21:00, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
:::Tavis is not an admin. Unless he has all sprites saved on his computer, he won't be able to help. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|'''electAbuzz''']][[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']][[Special:Contributions/ElectAbuzzzz|'''z''']] 19:02, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
::::I know that, I'm just thinking that he has them on him, that's all. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 21:15, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

== Present ==

you need a [http://www.alfred-music.com/player/JazzBand2009/30626/player.html song]. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 23:17, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
:Awwww Nate, you shouldn't have! Here, I got you some math. ''Solve for i: 9x - 7i > 3 (3x-7u)''. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:20, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

== Sky Attack ==
The vandal whose edit you reverted has been done again which I undid this time. Based on my suspcions of this users edit I can say it has to be a single purpose vandal. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 02:22, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
:He's been warned. Keeping an eye on him. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:26, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
::Right, but right now this user is more likely to ignore this warning since that doesn't seem to be any constructive edits. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 02:28, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
:::I'm assuming good faith. He probably hadn't seem that message by the time he made the third edit and is likely frustrated that people are removing his edits. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:32, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

== I believe... ==

That the contents of [[User:MisterE13/Sandbox]] may be of interest to you.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 21:38, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

== Redirection Question ==

Hey trom, need to ask something. There are two characters with the same name '''Shū'''. One is Drew from Advanced Generation and the other one is from ''Pokémon Get da ze!''. The thing is that there is no redirection to Drew's article when we search Shu, it directly jump to that manga shu article. Shouldn't there be a disambiguation? Because Shu (that anime one) isn't a minor character afterall. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 14:39, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
:My personal opinion on this issue is that the article at [[Shū]] should stay the manga character with the hatnote it currently has (the thing that says "If you were looking for...") because that is the only name we have for that character, whereas we have an English name for [[Drew|the other guy]]. If any of my talk page stalkers want to chime in, I'd like to hear what they have to say on this :) —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:38, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
::^this [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 20:40, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Agreed. [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 20:57, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
:::↑(I'm a stalker XD) [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 21:17, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
::::Oh, okay. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 03:01, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

== Guess you guys didn't see it ==

[[User talk:Shambori|This guy]] vandalized Luvdisc's page several hours ago but was not blocked. The guy may return. [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 00:42, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
:Hey, it's him again. Go through the Archives deletion logs and you'll see what I mean ;)
:Next time, don't forget to plonk a warning message on his talk page. That'll help us notice anything in future. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 00:46, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
::No prob. I'll be looking out for him on Bulbanews. [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 00:53, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
:::He hasn't activated that account yet, which is why I didn't place a block or anything. If he tries anything, match the times from here and from BA. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 00:55, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

== Crystal ==

Sorry about removing that chunk without an explanation. I usually leave one, just was lazy tonight. I didn't think it was necesarry to have the starter Pokémon names, just seemed too long. I am gonna re-add about how the rival chooses the starter that the player's is weak is against. My bad. [[User:Jedi Striker|Jedi Striker]] 06:12, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
:It's forgivable, but please don't be lazy. It can be really confusing to see a large chunk of text vanish with no explanation. Again, I urge you to use the link templates as mentioned by Zesty Cactus on your talk page. They'll prevent you from unintentionally linking to redirects or disambiguation pages. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 06:14, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

== Isshu Starters ==

Hey trom, apparently almost everything related to [http://img24.imageshack.us/i/497pokabu.png/ Pokabu], [http://img10.imageshack.us/i/494tsutaaja.png/ Tsutaaja] and [http://img219.imageshack.us/i/500mijumaru.png/ Mijumaru] is under protection including there images. I've crystal clear + clean artwork images of these starters but I don't have the permission to upload them neither do any other normal user. Can you please add/upload them? Another user have also provided it's link (as he uploaded it on imageshack), you can save it from there and upload it here. Thank you. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 09:57, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
:A concern with images is whether the image is fan-made or not. Where did you find the art from? —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:11, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
::It's fan edited (check Pokabu's back leg and Tsutaaja tail). By the way, the BW site says BW will be released Fall 2010. Page here only says 2010. [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 10:16, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Hmm... {{tt|didn't noticed that|you are right :P}}. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 10:25, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
::::Jioruji and I decided that including fan-'''edited''' art isn't necessarily a bad thing provided it is from an obscured scan and is noted as such. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:53, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::Note other part of my comment above. [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 10:58, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::Sorry, got sidetracked reading your anime predictions page... ^-^; —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 11:03, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

== Gen 5 Artwork ==

I figured an Admin would be the best person to talk to - [http://www.andriasang.com/e/galleries/2010/05/15/pokemon_black_white/ if we want artwork not edited from Coro Coro]...yeah. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 20:55, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
:Most of it is already uploaded, if you bothered to check the Archives. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jel]][[User Talk:Jello|lo]] 21:13, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
::Just trying to be helpful, no need to be a dick. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 22:00, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Jello was also trying to be helpful. If you want to upload stuff that's from the official BW site that's fine, but you need [[a:Category:Early_Pokémon_Black_and_White_images|check that it's not there already]]. And follow the naming conventions, guys. File:bw-1.jpg is not a descriptive name at all. We want to know what the image is about before we see it. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:38, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

== Yeah, about the copyright ==
I personally, and by hand, cut out those sprites from multiple Sprite Sheets found on [http://www.google.com/ Google], not Bulbapedia. Yes, we might have a few ideas from your site, but you can't prove that any of those images were from Bulbapedia. As for our Diamond, Golden, Silver, and Bronze Charizard awards that we present to our best contributors, yes, it was an idea from Bulbapedia, however they're different as our site mascot is Charizard, not Bulbasaur. We don't have any GIFs that are in identical motion with any of yours, so you have no legal proof that those images are yours. As for giving credit? We plan to put your URL as a cousin site from ours on one of our high-traffic pages, in time. —[[User:RockSmashGuy|Rock]][[User_talk:RockSmashGuy|Smash]][[Special:Contributions/RockSmashGuy|Guy]] 05:04, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
:Woah, way to get out of hand. Please stay calm.
:I was never saying that you stole the images themselves from Bulbapedia. Stuff that's ripped from the games is anyone's content, after all. That part of my post was more to do with the fact that our naming conventions had been used. While we can't hold claim to them, it's a little upsetting to see something that Bulbapedia used developed on another site.
:I had no idea you were using Golden Charizards. Don't get too defensive.
:My main concern, and the concern of the Editorial Board, was that you took a whole stack of templates without permission. This violates the terms and conditions of Bulbapedia. A lot of users put their time and effort into creating those templates, and their work cannot be recognized without providing attribution at the time of publication.
:Finally, if you want to continue any discussion, please do so on this page now that you have brought the issue to the BP end. Thanks. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 05:14, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
::Okay then, we'll try to make our own templates. Thanks for not escalating the problem <code>;</code>). —[[User:RockSmashGuy|Rock]][[User_talk:RockSmashGuy|Smash]][[Special:Contributions/RockSmashGuy|Guy]]
:::Please ensure that you not only use your own original templates, but also remove all work unfairly taken from Bulbapedia. Editorial Board page, I'm looking at you D: —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 05:43, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
::::<code>Don't upload any copyrighted images here, even if you have permission. Period. The reason behind that is that we generally want to stay out of the copyright stuff, as a precaution.</code>

::::<code>Every single image, picture, animation, and sprite of a Pokémon is copyrighted. —darklordtrom 05:52, 16 May 2010 (UTC)</code>
::::You know that quote isn't represented literally! So, if it's copyrighted, doesn't Bulbapedia need permission to have them, Mr. Literal? Bulbapedia has no legal ownership over any sprites, so watch your mouth there, buddy. —[[User:RockSmashGuy|Rock]][[User_talk:RockSmashGuy|Smash]][[Special:Contributions/RockSmashGuy|Guy]]
:::::Excuse me? Watch my mouth? Please refrain from harassing staff members. I'm only trying to help you.
:::::Bulbapedia knows that the images are copyright, and we use them under fair use guidelines. I was only pointing out that by prohibiting copyright images, you shouldn't have all those sprites (e.g. ''File:Spr 3r 003 s.png''). Why do you keep bringing up the issue of stolen sprites? I never said you stole our sprites. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 06:14, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

==Illusion==
I'd like to make this page, however it is protected from being made. What should I do? [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK]] [[Mudkip (Pokémon)|Leiks]] [[Lucario (Pokémon)|Lucario]] [[User talk:SpecialK|and the]] [[User:Missingno. Master/Celebi Glitch|Celebi Glitch]] 12:48, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
:Don't make it. It's protected so that it will have no speculation. Right now the page would say "This is the ability of Zoroark and Zoroa. It makes them take the sprite of of the opposing Pokémon." When we have a substantial amount of information to make a page, an admin will.--[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:19, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

==Trainer template?==
Hi Trom,
I was playing around and tried making [[User:Skymin23/sandbox|one]] and I could use feedback. Or are you the wrong person to ask. Anyhow, thanks--[[User:Skymin23|FlyingSkymin23]] 22:38, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
:For a start, you've broken the wiki. ... Kidding. But notice how the sidebar is all the way at the bottom? You haven't closed some tags that you've opened. Secondly, [[User talk:TTEchidna/Trainerlist/entry|TTE got there first]]. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 00:58, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
::D'oh! I guess I should stop trying to make templates now. BTW, do you know if he made a [[Route_45#In_Generation_IV|wild pokémon encounter table]] template with roundy corners? Because I was playing around with that idea. (Hopefully, my dreams aren't smashed).--[[User:Skymin23|FlyingSkymin23]] 01:21, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

== Pokemon movie ==

re:"It's likely to have been Thursday 8 April, given my holiday plans. If there's one thing I'm good at remembering, it's dates I did stuff. If anyone wants a specific breakdown of why it's that date, email me or something :)"

Yeah out of interest why was it shown on that day? break it down.Cheers--[[User:Solidstate|Solid!]] 11:17, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
:It's not as impressive as it sounds. Basically I read it in the TV Guide at my grandma's house the day before it aired, on that day I drove back to my city, and then the day it aired I was at work. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 06:52, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

== I got it! ==

I got a template giving credit to Bulbapedia on the pages its used on [http://wiki.rocksmashgroup.dreamhosters.com/wiki/Template:BulbapediaBased here]. I'll try to set up a time where i can insert the template into the proper pages <tt>:</tt>). I'm getting really sleepy, as I stayed up all night last night. —[[User:RockSmashGuy|RockSmashGuy]] 15:14, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
:That's a start. I strongly recommend that you completely recode everything you've taken from Bulbapedia, though. Give the wiki your own personal touch (because that EB page, although recolored and square, is still blatantly "borrowed"). —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 06:52, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

== TROMMY! ==

I need to talk to you: get a hold of me as soon as you can. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 02:34, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

== T'anks!!! ==
Sorry d'dn't kenow(ke-know)--[[User:Corynofplatinum|Coryn]][[User talk:Corynofplatinum|of]][[platinum]] 01:11, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
:I would appreciate you using proper English on my talk page, thanks. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:15, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

==Need some possible help==
I recently found an important conversation at [[Talk:List of Pokémon by National Pokédex number]] regarding a problem with the NDex link that someone noted at that talk page. Could you look into because if I recall that link follows the NDex follows the listing from Generation II and since the National Dex listing is locked down I am going to need your help for that page at least. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]]
:I don't have time to fix it now. If I temporarily unprotect the page, can you work fast? —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:57, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
::Better yet remove the link from there, I deal with the rest of the stuff right now. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 08:00, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
:::NDex page is unprotected for you. Don't tell anyone and make your edits quick :P —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:09, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
::::It's done though I might had made an unintentional mistake in my summary, but that was before I saw you response so hurry and re-protect and seriously I hope you do not get in trouble for this since I did offer you a way out of doing this and I'd feel partly responsible. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 08:15, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::Huh. That wasn't the problem I had in mind. But thanks anyway. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:58, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Sorry about last night, but I did send a message to Kogoro that something needs to be done to eliminate confusion to other people since one my secondary objectives is to clear up confusion whenever possible. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 01:24, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

:My point is that if I could be confused and the people who wrote on that talk page can be confused then without an invisible note to the National Pokedex page regarding that confusing link then it would cause more problems. P.S. I feel REALLY BAD about that mistake that I am filled with anger and sadness from that unintentional mistake and for getting you involved in it that it I am upset about myself so please, don't make me feel worse. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 01:36, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
::In the fandom, NDex means National Dex. That is why the redirect is where it is. If people want to get to the NewDex for whatever reason, they're likely to search for that instead. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:00, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Right didn't know that and thank you. Also during my long walk I took I also realized that deep down we both made mistakes that we have to live with. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 03:40, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

==Image Issue==
Right now on the player characters page there is a problem with the image for the main characters of Gen. V. What I do know is that even though it has the same file name on the Archives, it is not linking with it properly, and there is a chance that the size re-adjustment might be part of the problem, which I just confirmed from recent previewing. If you have the time then can you look into it? -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 05:16, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

== SockPuppeting ==

The IP Addresses are the same only because different relatives in this house go on but we don't go on the same account. [[User:Spritester|Spritester]] 22:36, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
:And your userpages are identical because... And you list your relative's parties instead of yours because... —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 04:48, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

== Please read [[Template talk:Itlistbod]] ==

That's pretty much it, really.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 11:43, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
:Looks good. I'll do something with it. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:47, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
::Eh... it's going to be more work than it's worth, says the rest of the Board. We can always add new parameters if we need them, but this isn't an essential changeover. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:03, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

==Physiology for the starters==
Pokabu: "Pokabu is a pig-like Pokémon, primarily orange in coloration with the additional colors of black, pink, and yellow on various portions of its body. It has large, ovular eyes, an archetypically piglike ruddy-pink nose, and a thick stripe of yellow over its snout. Much of its face has black coloration, and its ears, long and oblong, are positioned closely together on the top of its head. Pokabu has short legs, with the extremities of its forefeet being black in coloration. There is a band of black on its lower back and rear, from which extends its coiled tail, topped with a ruddy-red bauble-like adornment." Hopefully this helps. Also, I was not sure if its extremities---farthermost portions of its limbs--- should be called hooves or paws, so I left it at "extremities". (I was not sure if you noticed that I put this on its page previously...) [[User:Steph|Steph]] 14:32, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

== Name change request ==

I request that my username be renamed to "Compass" if possible, due to personal and identity reasons. Thanks. [[User:Wolf|Wolf]] 04:07, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
:I preferred the old name. But hey, I'm a creature of nostalgia. Reunify your global account, and log in on Archives and News. Apologies about the Pullman references; it was either that or Doctor Who, and I wasn't in a mood for quoting Christopher Eccleston. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 11:57, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

I just wanted to thank you because of helping me out at first. I even have a userpage. --[[User:Zewis29|Zewis29]] 21:19, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

== Usertags ==

You might want to fix [[Bulbapedia:Usertags]] to match the usrtag policy (and so it links to it). It currently says to create new usertags in the template namespace. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 21:26, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
:... How did we miss that? D: —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:28, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

== Project Ranger ==

Welcome. I am [[User:Donnaclus|Donnaclus]], and I noticed that Bulbapedia has far too many stubs regarding the [[Pokémon Ranger]] games. I want to create an ongoing project to help fix all destroyed Ranger articles. I will need your approval, though. If you'd like to reply using my Usertalk, [[User_talk:Donnaclus|click right here]]. Also please feel free to reply here. --[[User:Donnaclus|Donn]]'''.::.'''''([[User talk:Donnaclus|Usertalk]])'' 19:31, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
:I'm not Trom BUT... If I'm not mistaken, I think the Pokémon Ranger series falls under {{bp|Project Games}}. You could bring it up on their talkpage that all the Ranger articles kind of suck (I'd edit them more myself, I love the Ranger games, but I haven't played them in ages D:) --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 20:23, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
::Zesty Cactus is right. All articles relating to the video games share the same category: Project Games. What I suggest you do, in this situation, is work with {{u|Umeko}}, the Project Leader, to establish a Ranger to-do list which users can then work through.
::The next time you write on my talk page, please don't resign it three times. The extra, unneeded edits may strain our fragile server. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:33, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

== MS links ==

About a month ago I mentioned to TTE that most of the MS links weren't leading to the right place, and he said to fix them. I've done all the mainspace/templatespace ones I can (with a bit of help from a few others), but now the only ones left are protected templates. They need a '' (Pokémon)'' inserted in the MS link after the parameter. The templates in question are:
*{{template|Avail-1}}
*{{template|Avail-2}}
*{{template|Avail-3}}
*{{template|Avail-4}}
*{{template|Fiorepkmn}}
*{{template|Almiapkmn}}
*{{template|MftE}} (this one needs more than one addition)
Could you/another admin change these when you get the time please? <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 07:04, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
:All done. Hopefully the server won't hate me too much after this... —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:58, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

==Images?==
Hi Trom. Who do I go to if I want certain images to be uploaded, and I can't do them myself? [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 15:22, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
:Me. Upload them to an image sharing site and give me the URLs. If they're above the 2MB limit, though, no one will be able to upload them. Why can't you do it yourself, may I ask? —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 05:48, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
::Sorry for the late response. I went away for the weeekend. Well, there are alot of images that need to be updated from HG/SS, and I don't know where to get them. For example, [[Route 32]]. [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 22:14, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Ah. Well if you don't have the images, and I don't have the images, there's not a lot we can do. We should probably get some sort of "requests for images" page going... I'll think that over. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:34, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
::::Okay, that's awesome, thanks. If I look, maybe I will find them somewhere, but thanks. [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 00:30, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

== Max's Ralts ==

Did you not see what I had on that talk page? Max's Ralts IS a notable article, under the grounds that it counts as a CotD. The ENTIRE episode was focused on it. There weren't any human CotDs in that episode. I swear, is that rule going to be completely unused?

And Misty's Golduck was deleted before that rule was even thought of. It should be remade as well. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 12:18, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
:I saw what you wrote and I know what the rule says. I likened it to Misty's Golduck as that was how the Project Anime leader Kenji-girl described it as, but a better analogy may have been Cassandra's Parasect. My main reasoning is that if the information can fit into a box on a human character's page, it is better off there. Keeping down the smaller articles in favour of fuller articles is the idea behind this policy. The only information I didn't carry across was the trivia about Wally, because that is already mentioned in Max's article. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 12:24, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

== Favor to ask ==

Can you nip on over to [[List of Pokémon by Isshu Pokédex number]] and edit it to reflect that we now know Zekrom and Reshiram are at least part-Dragon type? Thanks. [[User:Shady|'''Shady]] got [[Image:PokémonDollar.png]][[User talk:Shady|10,000]] for [[Special:Contributions/Shady|winning]]''' 14:34, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

== They may or may not be Dragon-types ==

This really pisses me off: People automatically assuming something when we only know something else. We do '''''NOT''''' have '''''any''''' confirmation that they are any type as of yet. Has it been stated by Daisuki Club that they are the "Legendary Dragon Pokemon"?Yes, they said that. I'm not denying it. But that sounds too suspicious if you ask me. Why word it like a Pokedex entry? Perhaps they are like the Komodo Dragon and are only Dragon in name only. We have nothing confirmed (except for maybe Zekrom being Electric but meh) and since this is a wiki based on the facts, as most wikis are, we shouldn't interpret a rumor as fact. Please edit the Zekrom and Reshiram pages so that they are not listed as Dragon-types. --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 17:09, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
:What in the world brought this on? I mean, I agree with you, but exactly why are you railing on Trom about this when he isn't even online right now{{tt|?|it's currently 6 AM where he is}} [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 18:04, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
::Sorry Umeko-san, it's just that I saw him reply on [[Talk:Zekrom (Pokémon)]] (Part of being a Pokémon encyclopedia is reporting what we know. We know that they're Dragon-type. We don't know anything else about their types. That's why it says Dragon and nothing else (not even a ???). —darklordtrom 12:49, 30 May 2010 (UTC) ) and, while it was a week back, I still can't believe he admits that he accepts fan-based (while not unfounded) speculation as FACT. That's why I railed on him. I just can't believe people can be so assuming. Could someone please explain to the admins and mods that the typing is not confirmed by anyone, ANYWHERE. --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 18:36, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
:::If we're wrong, we'll change it. It's not a big deal. The typing will probably be revealed tommorow on Pokémon Sunday. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 18:42, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
::::Well, it's actually today that Pokémon Sunday is airing. I'm recording it so I can upload it to my YouTube so people who weren't able to watch it can watch it. The links on my user page and, if the recorder doesn't crap out like last week, they'll be up by 5pm here. --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 18:49, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::I'll be sure to check, since your 5 PM is my 5 PM (I checked your page) :P [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 18:53, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
::::::I have been discussing with the other admins the issue about their types still being uncertain. It's just not really a priority right now, so not much headway has been made. While yes, we do want to be as factual possible, it's not really the end of the world if we accidentally have information that may end up to be untrue on the pedia for a little while due to a misunderstanding.
::::::I have not taken the initiative to change the typings myself, because it would not be prudent of me to do so without getting the others to agree first.
::::::Finally, there's really no need to add "-san" to my name. Just Umeko is fine. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 18:56, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Thank for discussing it with the other admins, Umeko.
:::::::Just so you guys know, I'm not denying the fact that they could be Dragon-types, I'm just denying the fact that it's been confirmed that they are. If I sound angry, which I'm sure I do, rest assured it is only because I am unsure how to tackle a general assumption by many thousands(?) of people and get easily mad when people mix rumors with fact (same with Arceus and the god complex). --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 19:03, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
:Sorry, I thought it was confirmed that they were Dragon-type? I don't speak Japanese, so I was only going off what other people had told me. Umeko, did the other staff give any final verdict{{tt|?|I haven't the time to join you tonight}} —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 05:22, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

==TROM==
Could you block [[User:Nazzys|Nazzys]] please. He's is an apparent vandal, and wrote a disturbing message [[User talk:Skymin23|here]]. I plopped a warning on his talk, but i'm not sure he took it seriously. Thanks!

== Dude with two accounts ==

{{u|Macarol12|this fellow}} made a {{u|I Love Rapidash|second account}}, can you take care of it for me? Thanks man :D --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 15:42, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
:All done. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:28, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

== Talk page comments ==

Um...i'm not sure if i have to be an admin to tell you this, but don't erase talk page comments for no reason. [[User:Flyingtypefan|Flyingtypefan]] 03:33, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
:EDIT: Okay, so according to your edit summary, it was the wrong projet. I thought since it was a fan-term, it should go there. I was wrong. But still, you shouldn't have erased it. [[User:Flyingtypefan|Flyingtypefan]] 03:40, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
::...Trom is a member of the {{bp|Editorial Board}}. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 03:43, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
I didn't think anybody could erase talk page comments unless they were spam. And i didn't know he moved it rather than erasing it. Sorry. :( [[User:Flyingtypefan|Flyingtypefan]] 03:46, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
:Yeah. And stuff. All cool now. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:28, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

== Confirmed something ==
I confirmed the other day through luck that the highest level in the Voltorb Flip is level 8. Since you posted a note in that page regarding the topic I figured I should let you know. On that talkpage I put down the summary of my experience. Just to note if I hadn't seen it too clearly then I wouldn't consider it confirmed since all the conformations I have done for this site involve careful and clear observation. If you don't want to post that information on the Voltorb Flip page without additional conformation I understand since this is not something easy to confirm. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 04:43, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

== User:Qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq ==

Err, how exactly is his username unacceptible? I was curious, so I went over the username policy. It's not obscene, it's not impersonating anyone, it's not named after a Bulbapedia admin or function, it's just a slightly long string of the letter Q. Annoying at the worst, yes, but certainly nothing harmful. Or am I missing something here? - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 11:35, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
:You're missing the discussion the staff had behind the scenes. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 19:43, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
::I had a feeling I had to be missing something here. But what exactly am I missing? What's the real reason, then? - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 11:06, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
:::Nothing, I think trom is saying that you are missing '''the main meeting''' that '''staff members''' had regarding this issue. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 11:25, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

==about what you said==
i can help, i know alot about pokemon and the games, but i cant add to anything here.
i will help in black and white when the "roms" are out so :( [[User:Jackjt8|Jackjt8]] 14:07, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

== If you're around right now ==

Could you please move [[Chirāmyi (Pokémon)]] back to [[Chiramii (Pokémon)]]? Thanks. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 20:36, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

==User:MtCharizard==
I know this is late, but I noticed that [[User talk:CodyDelis|this user]] [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&user=CodyDelis created a new account name]. Since you were the last person to block the original user, could you take care of this? Thanks! --[[User:Rockersk08|rock]][[User talk:Rockersk08|ersk]][[Special:Contributions/Rockersk08|08]] 23:30, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
:Thanks. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:37, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

== Dear Trom ==

Since you're not where you should be <Strike>with me</strike> on AIM or easily contactable...could you answer [[User talk:Serial Colour|this]] please? I figure you can do it better than I can, or want to...Much love~ --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 23:41, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
:Apologies and done. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:52, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
::Much love and thanks. 8D. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 23:59, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
:::Since I'm American and therefore stereotypically too lazy to make a new section when I can use this one, when you're on AIM I've got something important to discuss with you. Stay classy~ --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 22:50, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
::::Five hours from now, kiddo. Hope your ''mom'' doesn't mind you being up past your bed time :P —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:01, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
:::::Well fine. I ''guess'' I can stay up that long for you. It's a date. /shot --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 23:08, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
::::::Ugh, I hope you don't mind me abusing my previous sections so I don't have to make a new one. You know, being American and lazy an all that. Because you're all backwards upside down reversy worldy, when you're online, I need you. Much love, --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 02:14, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::::DDDD8! Trom, when you're next available or contactable, I need to talk to you. It's like a super code yellow-red of super double super secret stuff of moderate level importance...IDK, just get on when you can when your backwards upside down time world thing lets you~ Thanks! Also, I promise I'll make a new section the next time I need you...Maybe...Hugs and Kisses, --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 20:23, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
Pardon my butting in, but I literally laughed out loud when I read this section. This is the most hilarious admin interaction I've seen in a while. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 21:13, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

== O HAIZ ==

Er, since [[List of routes in the Pokémon world|this article]] is (somehow) protected (actually, can't bother to read the history), and it's got some technical issues, I've fixed 'em at my [[User:Masatoshi/Routes|page up here]], so please change that to the article above. Thanks in advance. [[User:Masatoshi|'''ALL<Gen. II''']] [[User talk:Masatoshi|'''''I want CHOCOLATE MILK''''']] 07:20, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
:Since Trom's not here right now, I've gone ahead and changed it. Thanks. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jel]][[User Talk:Jello|lo]] 08:09, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
=== About signature ===
Ah, that, sorry. Gonna fix it now, I'm easily confused, don't worry.. [[User:Masatoshi|'''Oro<Plata''']] [[User talk:Masatoshi|'''''discuss.''''']] 10:41, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

== Ah, okay ==

Oh, I wasn't aware that we had a policy on this. I guess I'll have to fight with my habit of blanking pages when adding deletion template from now on. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 14:35, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

== Thanks! ==

Ok. I will do that from now on. Would you like me edit the Categories for it? [[User:Tandra88|Tandra88]] 02:00, 20 July 2010 (UTC)Tandra88

== Name change? ==

I apologize for asking this, but if possible, I would like to have a username change. I once asked TTEchidna this some months ago, back when the errors were around so obviously it couldn't be done then, and I would ask him again but I seem to be disabled from adding new talk sections on his talk page. I've been told to ask one of the Main Editors, hence why I came here. If you can't do the change, then that's fine too.

I understand the rules of a username change, that once made I can never ask for another one, which I am perfectly fine with. I'd like to be called Rai Marshall, if possible. Thank you kindly. [[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]] 02:26, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
:Gimme like five hours or something. I gotta prime the servers, run calibration tests, reconfigure the registry panel.... LOL JK I'm going to a film screening now. But I'll do it, sure.
:Go edit the mainspace or something while you wait. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:32, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
::Thank you and uh, I think I'm fine doing nothing while I wait. I'm not so good on wiki terms, I admit. But yes, thank you very much. [[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]] 02:34, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
:::Go get good on wiki terms then. Merge your accounts on all three wikis and you're home and hosed. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:52, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

==Project Idea==
I have an idea for a project.It's called Project Control Blaze.It's for censoring things on bulbapedia,so no one getts offended. {{unsigned|Gamerater888}}
:I'm not Trom, however, I find the general policy on Bulbapedia has been to present all facts, including images, accurately and without censorship. As an encyclopedia, our goal is to be as complete and factual as possible, which is contradictory to censoring images. --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 15:25, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
::Are we still going on about Electric Tale? The images on that page are so small that you can't even see anything without having to click onto them, and why would you even click if you've read the section above them? Personally, I despise spoiler warnings in all their forms. If you're on a wiki about any series/franchise, you can expect plot details to crop up on every single page. Project idea denied. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:44, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

==Thank you!==
Seriously, thanks for un-breaking my new Pokémon page. I didn't have much information to put into the New Pokémon template and I was really confused when I made the page and got a bunch of gibberish. Guess that'll be the last time I mess around too much with templates xD; Anyway, thank you for prettying up the page. --[[User:Phantomjunkie|Phantom]][[User talk:Phantomjunkie|Junkie]] 16:12, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

== Request ==

Could you possibly do one of the following for me?

1: Copy and paste the following text into the very top of [[User talk:Missingno. Master/Archive2]]; <nowiki>{{User:Missingno. Master/Template:Talkpage|prev=User talk:Missingno. Master/Archive1|next=User talk:Missingno. Master/Archive3}}</nowiki>.

Or,

2: Unprotect the aforementioned page so that I may do it myself.

Thanks in advance! - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 22:30, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

== Specialshipping ==

How isn't Specialshipping canon?! It's no less canon than Franticshipping! --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 23:14, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
:I believe I gave my justification in my edit summary. If you think I was in error, bring it up with the Head of Shipping, Luna/Arc Toraphim. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:17, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

== RE: Renaming files ==

I'm sorry about that. I'm new here and i tried to edit it but i didn't find the "Edit" button. I tried to read the manual, it's a bit complex but i think i get it. Anyway thanks for tellin'
--[[User:DarkPokeTrainerWJ|DarkPokeTrainerWJ]] 12:10, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

== Nobledd11 ==

Hey trom, can you please block/deal with [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User_talk:Nobledd11 this] user? Zesty warned him first, then I warned him but he is continuously editing his userpage. He edited his user-page 11 times in a row and still going on and on. Please deal with him, thank you. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 16:34, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
:Thanks Adyniz. When dealing with userspace abusers in future, please use the prescribed template {{template|userwarning}} with the appropriate warning to make sure the right message is given. In the case of this user, the message you left should have been <nowiki>{{subst:userwarning|2}}</nowiki> and that would have made it clear that he was up to his final warning. Thanks again. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:49, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
::Glad to help. Okay, I'll try to use those proper templates next time. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 02:10, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
:::{{tt|One more favour|Didn't wanted to create another section for this little thing, sorry}}, can you please Un-Protect [[DP190]]? We have the title and the source. So, it will be great if you un-protect it so that we can create the article. Thank you. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 09:50, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

==sorry about that==

sorry about that article I made about my forums, i won't do it again and i will abide by the rules in the future

[[User:Gugtup|Gugtup]] 10:12, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
:That's alright. Thank you for being obliging :) —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:13, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

== BW Template ==

Hey trom, as we all know that DP series is about to end and we have all the 191 episode articles. Now, it's time for BW articles as the new episodes will be probably available next month. So, I think it's time to make a {{tt|new template|<nowiki>{{subst:BW episode|ep number|jp. airdate|kanji|translated title}}</nowiki>}} for BW episodes as we had {{tt|this|<nowiki>{{subst:DP episode|ep number|jp. airdate|kanji|translated title}}</nowiki>}} for DP episodes. {{tt|What do you think|I'm not good at templates, that's why I am asking you about it. Nevermind :D}}? ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 14:49, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
:[[Template:New episode|TTE got there first]]. Even though he cheated by simply moving the page. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:59, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
::{{tt|Oh|Hehehe... }}, got it. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 13:46, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
:::Can you please unprotect [[BW005]] as we already have the title? Thank you. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 11:01, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
::::Sure. Can you draft a Bulbanews article as well? —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 11:03, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::Yeah sure. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 11:11, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
::::::I've submitted [http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Draft:The_Elemental_Monkey_trio_to_be_featured_in_BW005 the draft]. I think it's ready {{tt|but you should check it out|My grammer SUCKS big time, so kindly fix the minor mistakes if you find any.}}. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 12:26, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Another request, can you please protect [[Best Wishes! (song)]] 「ベストウイッシュ！」 and [[Fanfare of the Heart]] 「心のファンファーレ」 articles? Because we only know a little about the songs and there is a week in the songs to debut. I'm pretty sure that someone will try to create the article but there will be no quality in it. So, I've {{tt|created the articles|I'll create the ending song article in my userspace soon, haven't created it yet}} in [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User:Adyniz/Best_Wishes!_(song) my userspace] instead of mainspacing it directly till we get more info. What do you think? ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 11:07, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Can you please unprotect [[BW003]]? The episode is airing right now. Thanks ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 10:01, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
:Along with that, please un-protect [[Ash's Mijumaru]]. I think [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User:Adyniz/Ash's_Mijumaru my article] is ready to be mainspaced :) ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 11:41, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
::Once again, I'm here to bug you. Please un-protect [[BW006]], we have a title. Why on earth is every single (most of the BW episodes articles are protected? Speculation crackdown? NO! Then is there any valid reason? Just asking. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 09:48, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
:::Haven't a clue. If people actually followed the protected page guidelines, then... D: I see Buzz got this one. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:24, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
::::Oh, well then I think I'll just have to ask you for the protetion thingy :) not to mention we have a [[BW007|new title now]] and you probably know what I'm going to say next *Un-Protection*. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 03:48, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::And you know what I'm going to say. Bulbanews it. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:49, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::Aye aye captain! I'll bulbanews it asap while you un-protect it (please). Thanks ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 03:53, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

== Hey, trom ==

[[User talk:Brennan1357|This fellow]] keeps using his User talk page as a substitute for a User page, even after being told by four different users (including me and {{u|Jello}}) to stop over-editing it. Can you give him a talking-to for me? Thanks D: --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 19:18, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

==Need a picture placed into a protected page==
Hi, if you wish could you go into the Pokedex page and send a copy of the Isshu Pokédex picture and put it into the Isshu Pokédex listing? Since I helped decorate with the other pictures to their appropriate page, it would be nice to have the Isshu Dex listing with this kind of decoration as well. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 04:21, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
:Sure thing. What's the file name? —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 04:23, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

::Here: (File:Pokédex BW.png), Just set it up similar to how the Hoenn and Sinnoh Dex number listing pages were done. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 04:26, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
:::Thanks for your help but just so you know I usually use three words for the description "''(Region name) region's Pokedex''" with only parenthesis going to regions involved with remakes (Kanto and Johto) to identify specific generation. But anyway I let you decide if you wish to change the description or not, I am just letting you know about this. -[[User:Tyler53841|Tyler53841]] 04:54, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

== Hey, remember this stuff? ==

I've made some modifications to the Moveentry templates again as seen in the last sections of [[User:MisterE13/Sandbox|this page]]. Think you could do the update for me just like old times?--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 19:27, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
:All alone in the moonlight... —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:26, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
::Thanks :D!--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 00:57, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

== Bewking issue (again) ==

Hey trom, Bewking have started vandalizing the articles once again. He just vandalized the articles and sometimes removes the same thing and sometimes he adds something stupid/fake/false info in the articles. Most of the times, it looks like he is just trying to increase the edit count thingy if you notice [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?limit=50&tagfilter=&title=Special%3AContributions&contribs=user&target=Bewking&namespace=&tagfilter=&year=&month=-1 his contributions] closely. I saw that you blocked him earlier but he is doing the same thing again and again. Can you please deal with him? Thank you. ♫♪[[User:Adyniz|'''Ady''']][[User talk:Adyniz|'''Niz''']]♪♫ 08:54, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

== New Project ==

We have had Project Pokédex, Project Movedex and all sorts of similar projects. However we have not had Project Abilities. Can you see any future in it?--[[User:Chalkwriter|Chalkwriter]] 14:38, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
:I had already conceived an idea regarding abilities given that there is going to be a lot of new work coming in with BW; I'll bring it up with the Board and we'll go from there. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:10, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

==Can you help==
Hey, your an admin so maybe you can help me, when I try to edit an article's discussion page it says "You do not have permission to edit this page, for the following reason:
Your IP address, 196.25.255.194, has been automatically identified as a tor exit node. Editing through tor is blocked to prevent abuse." Thanks, [[User:Pikiwyn|Pikiwyn]] 22:05, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
:{{wp|Your internet provider is doing things we don't like}}. Or something. I'm not an expert on this kind of stuff. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:09, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
::Okay, thanks anyway. [[User:Pikiwyn|Pikiwyn]] 22:25, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

== My Userpage ==

I cant edit my userpage but I can't and I really want to. --[[User:Coolness|~Coolness]] 07:32, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
:See [[Bulbapedia:Userspace_policy#If_you_currently_cannot_edit_your_userpage|here]]. Your account is not autoconfirmed because you haven't made any (non-deleted) edits to the mainspace. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:39, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
:What can I edit? I can't think of any trivia or anything.--[[User:Coolness|~Coolness]] 07:44, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
::Take a look at {{cat|stubs|these}} {{cat|Articles needing improvement|categories}} {{cat|Episode articles with incomplete synopses|for}} {{cat|Articles needing more information|starters}}. Find something you're interested in and go from there. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:49, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

== Ok... ==

Trom, would you please block {{u|Bewking|this guy}}? Preferably forever. Thanks [[User:Takharii|'''たか''']][[User talk:Takharii|'''はり''']][[Special:Contributions/Takharii|'''い''']] 11:19, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
:Thanks, he was being an idiot yesterday{{tt|*|This morning, whatever. Last night for me (timezones)}}. [[User:Takharii|'''たか''']][[User talk:Takharii|'''はり''']][[Special:Contributions/Takharii|'''い''']] 21:36, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

== An Error I found on this one page...==

I know this ''probably'' isn't just my computer playing tricks on me. I was looking into articles I could further edit, and noticed a glitch that makes the [[Chimhiko]] article display the moves which lack specified first time uses... link to "EP010" of the show. Yeah, it's irritating, so if you could remedy that, it'd be great. Thanks. [[User:Kaboomustdie|Non-stop Hatred of Kabam- Kaboomustdie!]] 08:44, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
:All fixed. Some parameters in the template weren't set, so I changed the defaults. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 08:48, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

== [[Bulbapedia:Staff]] ==

i whould like to contest as a german support for the other users, i am one of the admins from pokewiki. the other user in the staff then you with more then de-2 is Nyoo an he is on Hiatus. (i dont need more rights for this job) --[[User:Hanmac|Hanmac]] 06:47, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
:Of course. I'll keep that in mind and send Germans in your direction if I need to. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:35, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

== Sinjoh Ruins event images ==

In addition to the photos, should I also include the effect shots and Arceus in my uploads? [[User:Turtwig Lover|Turtwig Lover]] 04:48, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
:50 images is a lot. Just upload what you think is the minimum we'd need. Bear in mind we don't want to display too many images. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:54, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

== Trainer's Pokemon ==

So, now, instead of an articles of a trainer's pokemon, we just redirect it to the trainer's articles? Mind if I help out there? --[[User:SilverCrono|Silver]][[User talk:SilverCrono|Crono]] 22:34, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
:No, just those three. They were determined as less-than-notable and the information fits on the Trainer's page well. The other pages, at this stage, will stay. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 22:45, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
::Ah, I see. Sorry for bothering you then, and thanks for your time :) --[[User:SilverCrono|Silver]][[User talk:SilverCrono|Crono]] 23:01, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

== Another question... ==

Sorry to be such a bother, but I have a question, and I think you can answer. How many edits does it take to become auto-confirmed? Or is there a time limit? I'm just curious, and seeing my name link as red in RecentChanges is kind of weird ~_~ --[[User:SilverCrono|Silver]][[User talk:SilverCrono|Crono]] 03:09, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
:There is both an edit minimum and a time limit: I'm not going to answer your question other than to say keep going :P —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:14, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
::Ah, okay. Well than, thanks, and I'll just blaze on through then! Thanks for your time, much appreciated :D --[[User:SilverCrono|Silver]][[User talk:SilverCrono|Crono]] 03:20, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

== Triple battles redirect ==

Can you please edit the [[Triple battle]] redirect to point to [[Double battle#Triple battles|Double battle#Triple battle'''s''']] instead? It's a minor problem which prevents the ''#Triple battle'''s''''' part from working - pointing to ''#Triple battle'' isn't working.
I cannot fix it myself, due to protection, and I figured the protecting admin was the best choice of person to ask. --'''HTMLCODER.exe@bulbapedia$_ [[User:HTMLCODER.exe|/usr]][[Special:Contributions/HTMLCODER.exe|/bin]][[User_talk:HTMLCODER.exe|/apache2]] -k restart''' 21:09, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
:Done. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 21:20, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
::Thank you ^_^ --'''HTMLCODER.exe@bulbapedia$_ [[User:HTMLCODER.exe|/usr]][[Special:Contributions/HTMLCODER.exe|/bin]][[User_talk:HTMLCODER.exe|/apache2]] -k restart''' 14:19, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

== Which one works? ==

The one that WHY DID YOU PUT THAT ON THE MAIN TEMPLATE PAGE WHILE IT'S IN USE?

YOU KILLED IT. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:26, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
:It's fixed now, so get over it and tell me which one you like best{{tt|.|If people listened in the chat then there wouldn't have been such a problem and it would have been sorted...}} —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:43, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

== Multiple accounts ==

<s>{{u|Cute Cyndaquil}} has a second account, {{u|Cute Pikachu}}. Can you please deal with this. I have given a message on [[User talk:Cute Cyndaquil|Cute Cyndaquil's talk page]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 07:50, 26 September 2010 (UTC)</s>
:{{u|Kogoro}} got it. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 08:19, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

==Anime screenshot links==
The screenshot links to Filb.de on the anime episode articles are no longer linking correctly. All lead to the main page on filb.de and not the desired episode screenshots. I changed the most recent ones, but that would mean fixing all the episodes back to AG001. Is there another way to fix this or does it have to be done manually? Thanks! --[[User:Rockersk08|rock]][[User talk:Rockersk08|ersk]][[Special:Contributions/Rockersk08|08]] 23:44, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
:Quite probably. I'll look into it. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 05:45, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
::Ugh. They've split them up into separate domains by series. There's no easy way to do it, although I can make a new intersite link or four. It'll still require millions of relinks. I'll forward this to the Echidna chappy I guess. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:43, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
::: Don't mean to bother you again, but has anything new developed about this issue? I personally have no problem changing all the links if necessary. --[[User:Rockersk08|rock]][[User talk:Rockersk08|ersk]][[Special:Contributions/Rockersk08|08]] 17:05, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
::::Technically it can be easily done due to the colorscheme of the templates being based on their series. Just tell me what the heck I've gotta do. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:21, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::[[Template:Filb-eppics|Go crazy]]. It works the same way as the old one, kinda. <nowiki>{{filb-eppics|dp|191}}</nowiki>. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:06, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

== Lightningrod and Storm Drain ==

serebii says that this abillities also negate the damage in black and white. could someone add this to the templates? --[[User:Hanmac|Hanmac]] 07:49, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

== Cough ==

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Talk:Isshu#Just_throwing_this_out_there

At the bottom. Sawamular just proved your source wrong.
--[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 21:49, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

== Disambiguation Pages ==

This might be a rather stupid and noobish question of me, but it's obvious that there are quite a few Pokemon with main articles which lack disambiguation pages, and it's almost clear to me that it isn't in my power to make new ones. So, if it is possible, could you inform me of a way, or create some that I can list off the top of my head if it's for administrators only? Thanks in advance.

[[User:Kaboomustdie|Non-stop Hatred of Kabam- Kaboomustdie!]] 05:52, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

:Which ones are you thinking of? Are you sure they need to be disambiguated? —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 05:58, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Mostly starters that, due to their meager presence in the show, haven't had disambiguation pages even if they appear as a mainstay in various manga series. Like, say, Swampert, for example (both its pre-evolutions have disambiguation pages to them). That and Ponyta, the evolution of which has a disambiguation, as well as the other articles Ataro and I created a while ago, like Scizor, Machoke/Machamp, Golduck, and Porygon/Porygon2, off the top of my head. Oh, and the Aron line, too, but I might have forgotten a few that have main articles and lack these pages. Thanks in advance.

[[User:Kaboomustdie| Kaboomustdie]] 02:17, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Edit: Or for a more straightforward list (I assume that's the reason why you haven't responded in a while):

Swampert (Ruby's Zuzu)

Ponyta (Platinum's)

Scizor (Blue's)

Machoke and Machamp (again, Blue's)

Golduck (Blue's)

Porygon and Porygon2 (Blue's)

Aron, Lairon, and Aggron (Sapphire's "Rono")

Yeah, that's about it. Obviously, those with no nicknames were just given their trainer's names.

[[User:Kaboomustdie| Kaboomustdie]] 23:55, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

==SPAMMER ALERT==
Check out [[User:Pokemon5thgeneration]]. He's been spamming up the [[Isshu]] page. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 13:57, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

== I need help ==

Sorry about my article I'm just flustered because I don't know what to do. And that's not a problem. My problem is, I want my bulbapedia and bulbanews accounts to link. I know your not suppose to have multiple accounts, but when I tried to start it with the same name, it wouldn't work. is there a way to link my accounts to both have the name Shaymin Master426?

--[[User:Shaymin Master426|Shaymin Master426]] 01:50, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[[User:Shaymin Master426]]
:Odd. You've tried logging in with the same name and password here (Bulbapedia) as you have on Bulbanews? What is the error message that pops up? —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 01:59, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

::O.e I solved the problem but i feel dumb. I never knew that there was a bulbawiki''unified'' account already. I made a poll on the fourms and everything. But you dont understand, i have made a bulbanews article called "What we need" and "Nintendo moves to the next dimension." on another account. i understand that I can use my bulbapedia account for bulbanews and archives. Thank You!

Oh and one more thing, can you change my name to HailZekrom ? I feel bad for shaymin; he was myfavorite. but zekrom kikied him out. LOL

:: oh no. forgot sig. --[[User:Shaymin Master426|Shaymin Master426]] 06:20, 4 October 2010 (UTC
:::I can't change your name at the moment. The server is stressed because of the BW release. Please ensure that you only use one account now that this issue is sorted. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:30, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

::ok. i guess shaymin master 246 is gone. --[[User:Shaymin Master426|Shaymin Master426]] 19:50, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
:::It is. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:11, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
if you are stll reading this, i want to know how to archive user talk pages. plz and thank you.
--[[User:Shaymin Master426|Shaymin Master426]] 00:36, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
:You click "move" on the top of the page and move it to User talk:Shaymin Master426/Archive or whatever you want to call it.--[[User:Cold|Cold]] ([[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 00:41, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

==Account blocked==
If it's all the same, Id rather you blocked this one and send me a new password for Weedefinition. You see I use that username in both wikia and wikimedia edits and I've kinda grown attached to it :) [[User:WellyDawn|WellyDawn]] 23:26, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
:Understandable. I'm not entirely sure if I'm able to sent you a new password though. Have you checked your junk folder, etc., and has it gone to the right email address? I am able to check email addresses and see that the two accounts have different emails attached to them. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:30, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
::Well the system threw me out when I tried using the same Email for both accounts, so I used my backup Email, wellydawn@gmail.com. My primary Email is wellydawn@walla.com, that's the one I used for the Weedefinition account. [[User:WellyDawn|WellyDawn]] 23:40, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
:::How clever of it. Are you sure that it hasn't gone into a junk folder or anything? It might be possible for me to rename the old account to a generic name and then rename the new account WellyDawn as Weedefinition... but I wouldn't be able to do that until later in the day when traffic is lower. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:42, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
::::I'm absolutely sure it hasn't gone to any such place. I've double (and now triple) checked. I could try and have a new PW sent again. I'll try it and see what happens. [[User:WellyDawn|WellyDawn]] 23:51, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::Update: The system says the new PW should arrive within 24 hrs, which is something I must have missed. Anyway, thanks for all your help! I wish the admins in my wiki were this nice :) [[User:WellyDawn|WellyDawn]] 00:00, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

== Bulbagarden Upload Failure ==

Hiya, I have a question. How come only [[a:Archives:Administrators|Administrators]] are allowed to upload a file on [[Bulbagarden Archives]]? Thanks in advance.--[[User:Pokemaniac2000|Pokemaniac2000]] 02:34, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
:Primarily to prevent people from uploading duplicate images in the initial hype of Black and White. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 02:35, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

== Japanese names? ==

Hiya, again. Sorry to disturb you but I can't help but wonder how I can translate names of locations to Japanese? Is there a special command or something? Thanks in advance.--[[User:Pokemaniac2000|Pokemaniac2000]] 03:08, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
:Um... no... They would be taken from Japanese copies of the game in question. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 03:12, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

==Question about the Trivia section of Ash==
How come you edited the trivia section of the page on Ash so much? Sorry to add another section of your talk page. {{unsigned|Patrickmck}}
:Hmmm...I see nothing wrong with a member of the [[Editorial board]] editing the trivia section of the page about [[Ash Ketchum]]... --[[User:Pokemaniac2000|Pokemaniac2000]] 17:45, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
::As stated in my edit summary, I removed trivia that had become outdated with the release of the new Best Wishes series. If you believe I removed anything in error, please bring it up on the [[Talk:Ash Ketchum|article's talk page]]. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 07:52, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

== Move variations ==

There's recently been a bit of confusion over what moves variations are and aren't. Many moves with differing PPs are called variations, while the variation page says they aren't. Are they considered variations or not? It's [[User:Turtwig A|Turtwig A]]! [[User talk:Turtwig A|My talk]] or [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|wiki edits]] 17:49, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

== Meloetta ==

Does it change forme when it learns a move by leveling up? --[[User talk:Venomoth|☯ ]][[User:Venomoth|*Ɣℯ№ӎօṫհ*]][[User talk:Venomoth| ☯]] 17:02, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
:No, it changes form after it learns a move from a tutor. Forgot which move exactly but it's a "Song" move. --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 20:01, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

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