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{{samename|property of a Pokémon called type in [[The Official Pokémon Handbook]]|Pokémon category}}
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'''Types''' (Japanese: '''タイプ''' ''Type'') are properties applied to {{OBP|Pokémon|species}} and their [[move]]s, which affect the power of moves in [[Pokémon battle|battle]]s. As of [[Generation VI]], there are 18 types, as listed to the right. Most of these were introduced during [[Generation I]], but the {{t|Dark}} and {{t|Steel}} types were introduced in [[Generation II]], and the {{t|Fairy}} type was introduced in Generation VI. A unique {{t|???}} type also existed from Generations II through {{gen|IV}}. During [[Generation I]], types were occasionally referred to as '''elements'''. The types are largely based on the concept of classical elements in popular culture.

A Pokémon may have either one or two types. For instance, {{p|Charmander}} is a {{t|Fire}} type, while {{p|Bulbasaur}} is both a {{t|Grass}} type and a {{t|Poison}} type. With this system and there currently being 18 types, there is a total of 324 possible ways to assign types to Pokémon, with 171 unique [[List of type combinations by abundance|combinations]], 155 of which have been used as of [[Generation VIII]]. Similar to Pokémon, [[Pokéstar Studios opponents]] also have types.

All moves have exactly one type each. The type of a damaging move typically determines which types of Pokémon it is super effective against, which types of Pokémon it is not very effective against, and which types of Pokémon it is completely ineffective against (with [[: Category:Moves that have special type effectiveness properties|very few exceptions]]). If the type of a move matches one of the types of the Pokémon using it, it gains a [[Same-type attack bonus|boost in power]].

Most [[Gym Leader]]s and members of the [[Elite Four]] are designed to have a [[Type expert|type-specific theme]].

==Type effectiveness==
[[File:Sylveon vs Hydreigon.png|200px|thumb|{{p|Sylveon}} using a super effective move on {{p|Hydreigon}}]]
:''"Super effective" redirects here. For the webcomic, see [[Super Effective (webcomic)]].''
:''"It's super effective" redirects here. For the podcast, see [[It's Super Effective (podcast)]].''
:''"Weakness" and "Resistance" redirect here. For the TCG mechanics, see [[Appendix:Glossary (TCG)#Weakness|Appendix:Glossary (TCG) → Weakness]]'' and ''[[Appendix:Glossary (TCG)#Resistance|Appendix:Glossary (TCG) → Resistance]].''

Damaging moves typically vary in '''effectiveness''' (Japanese: '''{{tt|効果|こうか}}''' ''effectiveness'') depending on the move's type and the type(s) of its target.

Type effectiveness greatly influences how much [[damage]] moves deal:
* If the type of a move is '''super effective''' (Japanese: '''{{tt|効果はバツグン|こうかはばつぐん}}''' ''super effective'') against a type of its target, the damage is doubled;
* If the type of a move is '''not very effective''' (Japanese: '''{{tt|効果は今一つ|こうかはいまひとつ}}''' ''not very effective'') against a type of its target, the damage is halved;
* If the type of a move '''has no effect''' (Japanese: '''{{tt|効果がない|こうかがない}}''' ''not effective'') against a type of its target, the target is completely immune to it, and the move will deal no damage.

For targets that have multiple types, the type effectiveness of a move is the product of its effectiveness against each of the types:
* If the type of a move is super effective against both of the opponent's types (such as a {{type|Ground}} move used against a {{2t|Steel|Rock}} Pokémon), then the move does 4 times (250% in Legends: Arceus) the damage.
* If the type of a move is not very effective against both of the opponent's types (such as a {{type|Fighting}} move used against a {{2t|Psychic|Flying}} Pokémon), then the move only does ¼ (40% in Legends: Arceus) of the damage.
* If the type of a move is super effective against one of the opponent's types but not very effective against the other (such as a {{type|Grass}} move used against a {{2t|Water|Flying}} Pokémon), then the move deals regular damage.
* If the type of move is completely ineffective against one of the opponent's types, then the move does no damage regardless of how the Pokémon’s other type would be affected (as in an {{type|Electric}} move used against a {{2t|Water|Ground}} Pokémon).

[[Pokémon Legends: Arceus]] uses a different calculation for type effectiveness against multiple types:
* If the type of a move is super effective against both of the opponent's types, then the move does 2.5 times the damage (instead of 4).
* If the type of a move is not very effective against both of the opponent's types, then the move does 0.4 times the damage (instead of 0.25).
* Type effectiveness multipliers remain the same otherwise.

The moves {{m|Flying Press}}, {{m|Freeze-Dry}}, and {{m|Thousand Arrows}} have custom interactions with defending types and do not strictly obey the type chart. {{m|Foresight}}, {{m|Odor Sleuth}}, and {{m|Miracle Eye}} remove certain type immunities from their targets. {{type|Fire}} moves double in effectiveness against Pokémon affected by {{m|Tar Shot}}. {{cat|Moves that deal direct damage}} (including [[one-hit knockout move]]s) do not employ effectiveness, although since [[Generation II]] Pokémon are immune to them based on type interactions. Certain {{Abilities}}, [[held item]]s, or types of [[weather]] (such as {{a|Levitate}}, the [[Ring Target]], or [[strong winds]], respectively) may modify the effectiveness of specific types of moves.

[[Status move]]s typically do not employ type effectiveness; however, {{type|Ground}} Pokémon are immune to {{m|Thunder Wave}} based on type interactions, and {{type|Ghost}} Pokémon are immune to {{m|Glare}} based on type interactions in Generations {{gen|II}} and {{gen|III}} only. Furthermore, status moves may be unable to affect Pokémon based on type-related interactions other than effectiveness; for example, {{type|Poison}} Pokémon cannot be afflicted with {{status|poison}} and are thus unaffected by {{m|Poison Gas}}.

Different sounds are played depending on the effectiveness of a move, with super effective attacks having a different sound from the normal hit, and not very effective attacks also having a distinct sound. Moves with no effect do not play a sound at all.

===Type chart===
:''For type charts from previous generations, see [[Type/Type chart]]''

A '''type chart''', also known as '''type matchup chart''', shows which modifiers are applied to [[move]] types when attacking {{OBP|Pokémon|species}} of each type. If the defending Pokémon has two types, the two modifiers will be multiplied together: a {{type|Flying}} move would hit for 4× damage on a {{2t|Bug|Grass}} Pokémon, while a {{type|Ground}} move used against the same would do only a quarter of the regular damage. (A complete ineffectiveness against either type will make the move deal no damage, since 0 multiplied by any number is 0.)

The type chart differs depending on the [[generation]] of {{pkmn|games}} it is from. The type chart for [[Generation VI]] onward is shown below.

{| class="roundy" style="border: 2px solid #111; background:#555; margin-right: 5px; margin-bottom: 5px"
|-
! colspan="2" rowspan="2" | ×
! colspan="18" style="{{roundytr|5px}} background:#4C4BA4" | Defending type
|-
! style="background:#{{normal color}}" | {{ic|Normal}}
! style="background:#{{fighting color}}" | {{ic|Fighting}}
! style="background:#{{flying color}}" | {{ic|Flying}}
! style="background:#{{poison color}}" | {{ic|Poison}}
! style="background:#{{ground color}}" | {{ic|Ground}}
! style="background:#{{rock color}}" | {{ic|Rock}}
! style="background:#{{bug color}}" | {{ic|Bug}}
! style="background:#{{ghost color}}" | {{ic|Ghost}}
! style="background:#{{steel color}}" | {{ic|Steel}}
! style="background:#{{fire color}}" | {{ic|Fire}}
! style="background:#{{water color}}" | {{ic|Water}}
! style="background:#{{grass color}}" | {{ic|Grass}}
! style="background:#{{electric color}}" | {{ic|Electric}}
! style="background:#{{psychic color}}" | {{ic|Psychic}}
! style="background:#{{ice color}}" | {{ic|Ice}}
! style="background:#{{dragon color}}" | {{ic|Dragon}}
! style="background:#{{dark color}}" | {{ic|Dark}}
! style="background:#{{fairy color}}" | {{ic|Fairy}}
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFF; font-size:90%"
! rowspan="18" style="background:#A44C4B; writing-mode:vertical-lr;text-orientation:upright;letter-spacing:5px;width:25px" | Attacking type
! style="background:#{{normal color}}" | {{ic|Normal}}
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| style="background:#F00; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | ½×
| 1×
| style="background:#000; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | 0×
| style="background:#F00; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | ½×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{fighting color}}" | {{ic|Fighting}}
| style="background:#090; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | 2×
| 1×
| style="background:#F00; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | ½×
| style="background:#F00; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | ½×
| 1×
| style="background:#090; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | 2×
| style="background:#F00; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | ½×
| style="background:#000; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | 0×
| style="background:#090; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | 2×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| style="background:#F00; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | ½×
| style="background:#090; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | 2×
| 1×
| style="background:#090; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | 2×
| style="background:#F00; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | ½×
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{flying color}}" | {{ic|Flying}}
| 1×
| style="background:#090; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | 2×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| style="background:#F00; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | ½×
| style="background:#090; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | 2×
| 1×
| style="background:#F00; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | ½×
| 1×
| 1×
| style="background:#090; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | 2×
| style="background:#F00; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | ½×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{poison color}}" | {{ic|Poison}}
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| style="background:#F00; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | ½×
| style="background:#F00; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | ½×
| style="background:#F00; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | ½×
| 1×
| style="background:#F00; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | ½×
| style="background:#000; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | 0×
| 1×
| 1×
| style="background:#090; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | 2×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| style="background:#090; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | 2×
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{ground color}}" | {{ic|Ground}}
| 1×
| 1×
| style="background:#000; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | 0×
| style="background:#090; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | 2×
| 1×
| style="background:#090; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | 2×
| style="background:#F00; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | ½×
| 1×
| style="background:#090; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | 2×
| style="background:#090; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | 2×
| 1×
| style="background:#F00; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | ½×
| style="background:#090; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | 2×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{rock color}}" | {{ic|Rock}}
| 1×
| style="background:#F00; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | ½×
| style="background:#090; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | 2×
| 1×
| style="background:#F00; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | ½×
| 1×
| style="background:#090; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | 2×
| 1×
| style="background:#F00; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | ½×
| style="background:#090; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | 2×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| style="background:#090; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | 2×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{bug color}}" | {{ic|Bug}}
| 1×
| style="background:#F00; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | ½×
| style="background:#F00; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | ½×
| style="background:#F00; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | ½×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| style="background:#F00; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | ½×
| style="background:#F00; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | ½×
| style="background:#F00; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | ½×
| 1×
| style="background:#090; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | 2×
| 1×
| style="background:#090; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | 2×
| 1×
| 1×
| style="background:#090; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | 2×
| style="background:#F00; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | ½×
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{ghost color}}" | {{ic|Ghost}}
| style="background:#000; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | 0×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| style="background:#090; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | 2×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| style="background:#090; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | 2×
| 1×
| 1×
| style="background:#F00; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | ½×
| 1×
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{steel color}}" | {{ic|Steel}}
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| style="background:#090; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | 2×
| 1×
| 1×
| style="background:#F00; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | ½×
| style="background:#F00; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | ½×
| style="background:#F00; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | ½×
| 1×
| style="background:#F00; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | ½×
| 1×
| style="background:#090; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | 2×
| 1×
| 1×
| style="background:#090; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | 2×
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{fire color}}" | {{ic|Fire}}
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| style="background:#F00; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | ½×
| style="background:#090; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | 2×
| 1×
| style="background:#090; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | 2×
| style="background:#F00; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | ½×
| style="background:#F00; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | ½×
| style="background:#090; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | 2×
| 1×
| 1×
| style="background:#090; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | 2×
| style="background:#F00; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | ½×
| 1×
| 1×
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{water color}}" | {{ic|Water}}
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| style="background:#090; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | 2×
| style="background:#090; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | 2×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| style="background:#090; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | 2×
| style="background:#F00; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | ½×
| style="background:#F00; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | ½×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| style="background:#F00; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | ½×
| 1×
| 1×
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{grass color}}" | {{ic|Grass}}
| 1×
| 1×
| style="background:#F00; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | ½×
| style="background:#F00; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | ½×
| style="background:#090; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | 2×
| style="background:#090; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | 2×
| style="background:#F00; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | ½×
| 1×
| style="background:#F00; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | ½×
| style="background:#F00; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | ½×
| style="background:#090; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | 2×
| style="background:#F00; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | ½×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| style="background:#F00; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | ½×
| 1×
| 1×
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{electric color}}" | {{ic|Electric}}
| 1×
| 1×
| style="background:#090; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | 2×
| 1×
| style="background:#000; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | 0×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| style="background:#090; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | 2×
| style="background:#F00; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | ½×
| style="background:#F00; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | ½×
| 1×
| 1×
| style="background:#F00; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | ½×
| 1×
| 1×
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{psychic color}}" | {{ic|Psychic}}
| 1×
| style="background:#090; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | 2×
| 1×
| style="background:#090; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | 2×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| style="background:#F00; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | ½×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| style="background:#F00; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | ½×
| 1×
| 1×
| style="background:#000; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | 0×
| 1×
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{ice color}}" | {{ic|Ice}}
| 1×
| 1×
| style="background:#090; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | 2×
| 1×
| style="background:#090; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | 2×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| style="background:#F00; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | ½×
| style="background:#F00; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | ½×
| style="background:#F00; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | ½×
| style="background:#090; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | 2×
| 1×
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| style="background:#F00; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | ½×
| style="background:#090; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | 2×
| 1×
| 1×
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{dragon color}}" | {{ic|Dragon}}
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
| 1×
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| style="background:#F00; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | ½×
| 1×
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| style="background:#090; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | 2×
| 1×
| style="background:#000; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | 0×
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{dark color}}" | {{ic|Dark}}
| 1×
| style="background:#F00; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | ½×
| 1×
| 1×
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| 1×
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| style="background:#090; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | 2×
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| style="background:#090; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | 2×
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| style="background:#F00; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | ½×
| style="background:#F00; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | ½×
|- style="text-align:center; background:#FFF; font-size:90%"
! style="background:#{{fairy color}}" | {{ic|Fairy}}
| 1×
| style="background:#090; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | 2×
| 1×
| style="background:#F00; color:#FFF; font-size:90%" | ½×
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|-
| colspan="20" style="{{roundybottom|5px}}; background:#999" | These matchups are suitable for {{color2|000|Generation VI}} onward.
|}

In [[Inverse Battle]]s, a different type chart is used that essentially inverts the regular type chart, turning immunities and resistances into weaknesses, and weaknesses into resistances.

===Dual-type damage misinformation glitch===
{{main|List of glitches (Generation I)#Dual-type damage misinformation|List of glitches (Generation I) → Dual-type damage misinformation}}
In [[Generation I]] only, if a damaging move is used on a Pokémon with two types such that one of its types is weak to the move and the other type resists the move, it will correctly receive neutral damage, but the incorrect message will be displayed on-screen. This does not occur in {{eng|Pokémon Stadium}}.

==Type-affected game mechanics==
Prior to [[Generation IV]], the [[damage category|category]] of damaging moves only depends on the move's type (except for [[Shadow moves]]); for example, all {{type|Normal}} damaging moves are [[physical move]]s and all {{type|Water}} damaging moves are [[special move]]s. From [[Generation IV]] onward, each individual move has a [[damage category]] that is independent of its type.

When the type of a move matches one of the types of the Pokémon using it, the attack power will be increased by 50%. This is referred to as [[same-type attack bonus]], or STAB for short. As an example, an {{p|Aron}} that knows the {{type|Steel}} move {{m|Metal Claw}} will have the move's power increased by 50% because one of Aron's types is Steel; the power of {{m|Cut}} would not be increased as Normal is not one of Aron's types.

Some Pokémon types are immune to certain status moves or effects. For example, {{type|Grass}} Pokémon are immune to {{m|Leech Seed}}, and {{type|Ice}} Pokémon are not damaged by {{weather|Hail}}.

Some moves, field effects, {{Abilities}}, and [[held item]]s affect moves of a certain type. {{m|Sunny Day}}, for example, causes {{type|Fire}} moves to increase in power, while {{a|Levitate}} causes {{type|Ground}} moves to not work on the Pokémon with this Ability. Likewise, each type has a [[Type-enhancing item|specific held item]] that can be given to a Pokémon that will power up one of the specific types by 20% (or 10%, prior to Generation IV), such as the [[Metal Coat]] for {{type|Steel}} moves.

{{cat|moves that change a Pokémon's type|Some moves}} can change the type of a Pokémon. For example, {{m|Camouflage}} changes the user's type to a type corresponding to the battlefield terrain. Abilities can also change the type of a Pokémon. These abilities include {{a|Color Change}}, {{a|Multitype}}, {{a|Protean}}, {{a|RKS System}}, and {{a|Libero}}.

Additionally, the type of {{cat|moves that change type|some moves}} may depend on the circumstances they are used in; for example, {{m|Weather Ball}} may be Fire-, Water-, Ice-, Rock-, or Normal-type depending on the [[weather]] it is used in. Additionally, there are {{cat|Abilities that can modify move types}} as well as exactly three moves: ({{m|Electrify}}, {{m|Ion Deluge}}, and {{m|Plasma Fists}}).

When a Pokémon has two types, those two types are always listed in an order specific to the Pokémon. This order is mostly aesthetic, but it affects {{m|Present}} in [[Generation II]] and {{m|Revelation Dance}}.

==??? type==
{{main|??? (type)}}
The ??? type is the only type to have been removed from the [[core series]] games. The ??? type only existed from [[Generation II]] to [[Generation IV]] and was primarily used in the core series as the type of the move {{m|Curse}}. It was removed in [[Generation V]], and Curse became a {{type|Ghost}} move. The ??? type deals and takes regular damage from all other types, though this is never seen in the core series due to no Pokémon nor damaging moves having the type.

==Shadow==
[[Shadow move]]s do not display any type on the [[summary]] or battle menus. In [[Pokémon Colosseum]], the only Shadow move deals regular damage against all Pokémon, while in {{Pokémon XD}}, they are super effective against non-[[Shadow Pokémon]] and not very effective against Shadow Pokémon.

==Typeless==
There are situations where Pokémon or moves behave as if they were typeless, unable to receive {{STAB}} and boosts from [[type-enhancing item]]s or {{cat|type-enhancing Abilities|Abilities}}. This is most commonly possible through effects that make one lose a type, such as {{m|Burn Up}} and {{m|Roost}}. Typeless Pokémon take regular damage from all moves, and typeless moves deal regular damage against all Pokémon.

{{m|Struggle}} acts typelessly from [[Generation II]] onward. The move {{m|Weather Ball}} acts typelessly under [[shadowy aura]], and the move {{m|Revelation Dance}} acts typelessly if used by a typeless user. {{m|Beat Up}}, {{m|Future Sight}}, and {{m|Doom Desire}} deal typeless damage before [[Generation V]].

Prior to [[Generation V]] typeless damage will ignore {{a|Wonder Guard}}. From Generation V onwards, typeless moves are blocked by Wonder Guard, with the exception of {{m|Struggle}}.

A typeless Pokémon has no types displayed on its battle summary.

==Glitch types==
{{main|Glitch type}}

The [[glitch type]]s are types which only appear through the use of glitches, such as on the types of [[glitch Pokémon]]. Most famously this includes the {{t|Bird}} type, which was intentionally programmed into the code of the Generation I and II games but was not given to any real Pokémon. Other glitch types are the result of the game reading other data as if it were types. Like the ??? type, all glitch types, except 'l) m) ZM, have no special effectiveness (they both inflict regular damage against all types and take regular damage from all types).

==Icons==
In [[Generations]] {{gen|I}} and {{gen|II}}, the [[core series]] games just used the type's name, with the only icons being in [[Pokémon Stadium series]] games.

In {{g|GO}}, icons were introduced to represent each of the types during gameplay. Very similar icons were later adopted into the core series, starting with [[Pokémon Sun and Moon]] and then following up with the subsequent core series games and {{g|HOME}}.

In {{g|X and Y}}, a different set of type icons were used as decorations for the floor of [[Diantha]]'s {{pkmn|Champion}} room.

===Pokémon Let's Go Pikachu, Let's Go Eevee, Sword, Shield and HOME===
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background: #{{black color dark}}; border: 5px solid #{{black color}}"
|-
| width="120px" style="background: #eee; {{roundytop|5px}}" | [[File:Normal icon SwSh.png|64px]]
| width="120px" style="background: #eee; {{roundytop|5px}}" | [[File:Fighting icon SwSh.png|64px]]
| width="120px" style="background: #eee; {{roundytop|5px}}" | [[File:Flying icon SwSh.png|64px]]
| width="120px" style="background: #eee; {{roundytop|5px}}" | [[File:Poison icon SwSh.png|64px]]
| width="120px" style="background: #eee; {{roundytop|5px}}" | [[File:Ground icon SwSh.png|64px]]
| width="120px" style="background: #eee; {{roundytop|5px}}" | [[File:Rock icon SwSh.png|64px]]
|-
| style="background: #{{Normal color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}" | {{tcolor|Normal|{{Normal color dark}}}}
| style="background: #{{Fighting color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}" | {{tcolor|Fighting|{{Fighting color dark}}}}
| style="background: #{{Flying color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}" | {{tcolor|Flying|{{Flying color dark}}}}
| style="background: #{{Poison color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}" | {{tcolor|Poison|{{Poison color dark}}}}
| style="background: #{{Ground color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}" | {{tcolor|Ground|{{Ground color dark}}}}
| style="background: #{{Rock color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}" | {{tcolor|Rock|{{Rock color dark}}}}
|-
| width="120px" style="background: #eee; {{roundytop|5px}}" | [[File:Bug icon SwSh.png|64px]]
| width="120px" style="background: #eee; {{roundytop|5px}}" | [[File:Ghost icon SwSh.png|64px]]
| width="120px" style="background: #eee; {{roundytop|5px}}" | [[File:Steel icon SwSh.png|64px]]
| width="120px" style="background: #eee; {{roundytop|5px}}" | [[File:Fire icon SwSh.png|64px]]
| width="120px" style="background: #eee; {{roundytop|5px}}" | [[File:Water icon SwSh.png|64px]]
| width="120px" style="background: #eee; {{roundytop|5px}}" | [[File:Grass icon SwSh.png|64px]]
|-
| style="background: #{{Bug color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}" | {{tcolor|Bug|{{Bug color dark}}}}
| style="background: #{{Ghost color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}" | {{tcolor|Ghost|{{Ghost color dark}}}}
| style="background: #{{Steel color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}" | {{tcolor|Steel|{{Steel color dark}}}}
| style="background: #{{Fire color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}" | {{tcolor|Fire|{{Fire color dark}}}}
| style="background: #{{Water color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}" | {{tcolor|Water|{{Water color dark}}}}
| style="background: #{{Grass color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}" | {{tcolor|Grass|{{Grass color dark}}}}
|-
| width="120px" style="background: #eee; {{roundytop|5px}}" | [[File:Electric icon SwSh.png|64px]]
| width="120px" style="background: #eee; {{roundytop|5px}}" | [[File:Psychic icon SwSh.png|64px]]
| width="120px" style="background: #eee; {{roundytop|5px}}" | [[File:Ice icon SwSh.png|64px]]
| width="120px" style="background: #eee; {{roundytop|5px}}" | [[File:Dragon icon SwSh.png|64px]]
| width="120px" style="background: #eee; {{roundytop|5px}}" | [[File:Dark icon SwSh.png|64px]]
| width="120px" style="background: #eee; {{roundytop|5px}}" | [[File:Fairy icon SwSh.png|64px]]
|-
| style="background: #{{Electric color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}" | {{tcolor|Electric|{{Electric color dark}}}}
| style="background: #{{Psychic color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}" | {{tcolor|Psychic|{{Psychic color dark}}}}
| style="background: #{{Ice color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}" | {{tcolor|Ice|{{Ice color dark}}}}
| style="background: #{{Dragon color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}" | {{tcolor|Dragon|{{Dragon color dark}}}}
| style="background: #{{Dark color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}" | {{tcolor|Dark|{{Dark color dark}}}}
| style="background: #{{Fairy color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}" | {{tcolor|Fairy|{{Fairy color dark}}}}
|}{{-}}

===Pokémon Brilliant Diamond, Shining Pearl, Legends: Arceus, Scarlet and Violet===
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background: #{{black color dark}}; border: 5px solid #{{black color}}"
|-
| width="120px" style="background: #eee; {{roundytop|5px}}" | [[File:Normal icon LA.png|64px]]
| width="120px" style="background: #eee; {{roundytop|5px}}" | [[File:Fighting icon LA.png|64px]]
| width="120px" style="background: #eee; {{roundytop|5px}}" | [[File:Flying icon LA.png|64px]]
| width="120px" style="background: #eee; {{roundytop|5px}}" | [[File:Poison icon LA.png|64px]]
| width="120px" style="background: #eee; {{roundytop|5px}}" | [[File:Ground icon LA.png|64px]]
| width="120px" style="background: #eee; {{roundytop|5px}}" | [[File:Rock icon LA.png|64px]]
|-
| style="background: #{{Normal color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}" | {{tcolor|Normal|{{Normal color dark}}}}
| style="background: #{{Fighting color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}" | {{tcolor|Fighting|{{Fighting color dark}}}}
| style="background: #{{Flying color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}" | {{tcolor|Flying|{{Flying color dark}}}}
| style="background: #{{Poison color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}" | {{tcolor|Poison|{{Poison color dark}}}}
| style="background: #{{Ground color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}" | {{tcolor|Ground|{{Ground color dark}}}}
| style="background: #{{Rock color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}" | {{tcolor|Rock|{{Rock color dark}}}}
|-
| width="120px" style="background: #eee; {{roundytop|5px}}" | [[File:Bug icon LA.png|64px]]
| width="120px" style="background: #eee; {{roundytop|5px}}" | [[File:Ghost icon LA.png|64px]]
| width="120px" style="background: #eee; {{roundytop|5px}}" | [[File:Steel icon LA.png|64px]]
| width="120px" style="background: #eee; {{roundytop|5px}}" | [[File:Fire icon LA.png|64px]]
| width="120px" style="background: #eee; {{roundytop|5px}}" | [[File:Water icon LA.png|64px]]
| width="120px" style="background: #eee; {{roundytop|5px}}" | [[File:Grass icon LA.png|64px]]
|-
| style="background: #{{Bug color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}" | {{tcolor|Bug|{{Bug color dark}}}}
| style="background: #{{Ghost color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}" | {{tcolor|Ghost|{{Ghost color dark}}}}
| style="background: #{{Steel color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}" | {{tcolor|Steel|{{Steel color dark}}}}
| style="background: #{{Fire color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}" | {{tcolor|Fire|{{Fire color dark}}}}
| style="background: #{{Water color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}" | {{tcolor|Water|{{Water color dark}}}}
| style="background: #{{Grass color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}" | {{tcolor|Grass|{{Grass color dark}}}}
|-
| width="120px" style="background: #eee; {{roundytop|5px}}" | [[File:Electric icon LA.png|64px]]
| width="120px" style="background: #eee; {{roundytop|5px}}" | [[File:Psychic icon LA.png|64px]]
| width="120px" style="background: #eee; {{roundytop|5px}}" | [[File:Ice icon LA.png|64px]]
| width="120px" style="background: #eee; {{roundytop|5px}}" | [[File:Dragon icon LA.png|64px]]
| width="120px" style="background: #eee; {{roundytop|5px}}" | [[File:Dark icon LA.png|64px]]
| width="120px" style="background: #eee; {{roundytop|5px}}" | [[File:Fairy icon LA.png|64px]]
|-
| style="background: #{{Electric color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}" | {{tcolor|Electric|{{Electric color dark}}}}
| style="background: #{{Psychic color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}" | {{tcolor|Psychic|{{Psychic color dark}}}}
| style="background: #{{Ice color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}" | {{tcolor|Ice|{{Ice color dark}}}}
| style="background: #{{Dragon color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}" | {{tcolor|Dragon|{{Dragon color dark}}}}
| style="background: #{{Dark color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}" | {{tcolor|Dark|{{Dark color dark}}}}
| style="background: #{{Fairy color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}" | {{tcolor|Fairy|{{Fairy color dark}}}}
|}

===Name icons===
{{Incomplete|section|Documentation of abreviations in other languages}}
In [[Generation IV]] games, the icons similar to ones in {{3v2|Ruby|Sapphire|Emerald}} are used in the [[summary]] and in-battle, while the {{3v2|Diamond|Pearl|Platinum}} icons are used in the [[Pokédex]].

{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background: #{{black color dark}}; border: 5px solid #{{black color}}" cellpadding=2px
|-
| style="background-color: #fcfcfc; {{roundytl|5px}}" | {{gameabbrevss|Stad}}
| style="background-color: #fcfcfc" | {{gameabbrevss|Stad2}}
| style="background-color: #fcfcfc" | {{gameabbrevss|Colo}}
| style="background-color: #fcfcfc" | {{gameabbrevss|XD}}
| style="background-color: #fcfcfc" | {{gameabbrevss|PBR}}
| style="background-color: #fcfcfc" | {{Gameabbrev3|RSE}}
| style="background-color: #fcfcfc" | {{Gameabbrev3|FRLG}}
| style="background-color: #fcfcfc" | {{Gameabbrev4|DPPtHGSS}}
| style="background-color: #fcfcfc" | {{Gameabbrev5|BWB2W2}}
| style="background-color: #fcfcfc" | {{Gameabbrev6|XYORAS}}
| style="background-color: #fcfcfc" | {{Gameabbrev7|SMUSUM}}
| style="background-color: #fcfcfc" | {{Gameabbrev7|PE}}
| style="background-color: #fcfcfc" | {{Gameabbrev8|SwSh}}
| style="background-color: #fcfcfc" | {{Gameabbrev8|BDSP}}
| style="background-color: #fcfcfc; {{roundytr|5px}}" | {{Gameabbrev8|LA}}
|-bgcolor=#eee
| [[File:NormalIC Stad.png]] || [[File:NormalIC Stad2.png]] || [[File:NormalIC Colo.png|50px]] || [[File:NormalIC XD.png|50px]] || [[File:NormalIC PBR.png|50px]]
| [[File:NormalIC RSE.png]] || [[File:NormalIC FRLG.png]] || [[File:NormalIC Big.png]] || [[File:NormalIC BW.png]]
| [[File:NormalIC XY.png]] || [[File:NormalIC SM.png]] || [[File:NormalIC PE.png|70px]] || [[File:NormalIC.png|70px]] || [[File:NormalIC BDSP.png|70px]] || [[File:NormalIC LA.png|70px]]
|-bgcolor=#eee
| [[File:FightingIC Stad.png]] || [[File:FightingIC Stad2.png]] || [[File:FightingIC Colo.png|50px]] || [[File:FightingIC XD.png|50px]] || [[File:FightingIC PBR.png|50px]]
| [[File:FightingIC RSE.png]] || [[File:FightingIC FRLG.png]] || [[File:FightingIC Big.png]] || [[File:FightingIC BW.png]]
| [[File:FightingIC XY.png]] || [[File:FightingIC SM.png]] || [[File:FightingIC PE.png|70px]] || [[File:FightingIC.png|70px]] || [[File:FightingIC BDSP.png|70px]] || [[File:FightingIC LA.png|70px]]
|-bgcolor=#eee
| [[File:FlyingIC Stad.png]] || [[File:FlyingIC Stad2.png]] || [[File:FlyingIC Colo.png|50px]] || [[File:FlyingIC XD.png|50px]] || [[File:FlyingIC PBR.png|50px]]
| [[File:FlyingIC RSE.png]] || [[File:FlyingIC FRLG.png]] || [[File:FlyingIC Big.png]] || [[File:FlyingIC BW.png]]
| [[File:FlyingIC XY.png]] || [[File:FlyingIC SM.png]] || [[File:FlyingIC PE.png|70px]] || [[File:FlyingIC.png|70px]] || [[File:FlyingIC BDSP.png|70px]] || [[File:FlyingIC LA.png|70px]]
|-bgcolor=#eee
| [[File:PoisonIC Stad.png]] || [[File:PoisonIC Stad2.png]] || [[File:PoisonIC Colo.png|50px]] || [[File:PoisonIC XD.png|50px]] || [[File:PoisonIC PBR.png|50px]]
| [[File:PoisonIC RSE.png]] || [[File:PoisonIC FRLG.png]] || [[File:PoisonIC Big.png]] || [[File:PoisonIC BW.png]]
| [[File:PoisonIC XY.png]] || [[File:PoisonIC SM.png]] || [[File:PoisonIC PE.png|70px]] || [[File:PoisonIC.png|70px]] || [[File:PoisonIC BDSP.png|70px]] || [[File:PoisonIC LA.png|70px]]
|-bgcolor=#eee
| [[File:GroundIC Stad.png]] || [[File:GroundIC Stad2.png]] || [[File:GroundIC Colo.png|50px]] || [[File:GroundIC XD.png|50px]] || [[File:GroundIC PBR.png|50px]]
| [[File:GroundIC RSE.png]] || [[File:GroundIC FRLG.png]] || [[File:GroundIC Big.png]] || [[File:GroundIC BW.png]]
| [[File:GroundIC XY.png]] || [[File:GroundIC SM.png]] || [[File:GroundIC PE.png|70px]] || [[File:GroundIC.png|70px]] || [[File:GroundIC BDSP.png|70px]] || [[File:GroundIC LA.png|70px]]
|-bgcolor=#eee
| [[File:RockIC Stad.png]] || [[File:RockIC Stad2.png]] || [[File:RockIC Colo.png|50px]] || [[File:RockIC XD.png|50px]] || [[File:RockIC PBR.png|50px]]
| [[File:RockIC RSE.png]] || [[File:RockIC FRLG.png]] || [[File:RockIC Big.png]] || [[File:RockIC BW.png]]
| [[File:RockIC XY.png]] || [[File:RockIC SM.png]] || [[File:RockIC PE.png|70px]] || [[File:RockIC.png|70px]] || [[File:RockIC BDSP.png|70px]] || [[File:RockIC LA.png|70px]]
|-bgcolor=#eee
| [[File:BugIC Stad.png]] || [[File:BugIC Stad2.png]] || [[File:BugIC Colo.png|50px]] || [[File:BugIC XD.png|50px]] || [[File:BugIC PBR.png|50px]]
| [[File:BugIC RSE.png]] || [[File:BugIC FRLG.png]] || [[File:BugIC Big.png]] || [[File:BugIC BW.png]]
| [[File:BugIC XY.png]] || [[File:BugIC SM.png]] || [[File:BugIC PE.png|70px]] || [[File:BugIC.png|70px]] || [[File:BugIC BDSP.png|70px]] || [[File:BugIC LA.png|70px]]
|-bgcolor=#eee
| [[File:GhostIC Stad.png]] || [[File:GhostIC Stad2.png]] || [[File:GhostIC Colo.png|50px]] || [[File:GhostIC XD.png|50px]] || [[File:GhostIC PBR.png|50px]]
| [[File:GhostIC RSE.png]] || [[File:GhostIC FRLG.png]] || [[File:GhostIC Big.png]] || [[File:GhostIC BW.png]]
| [[File:GhostIC XY.png]] || [[File:GhostIC SM.png]] || [[File:GhostIC PE.png|70px]] || [[File:GhostIC.png|70px]] || [[File:GhostIC BDSP.png|70px]] || [[File:GhostIC LA.png|70px]]
|-bgcolor=#eee
| None || [[File:SteelIC Stad2.png]] || [[File:SteelIC Colo.png|50px]] || [[File:SteelIC XD.png|50px]] || [[File:SteelIC PBR.png|50px]]
| [[File:SteelIC RSE.png]] || [[File:SteelIC FRLG.png]] || [[File:SteelIC Big.png]] || [[File:SteelIC BW.png]]
| [[File:SteelIC XY.png]] || [[File:SteelIC SM.png]] || [[File:SteelIC PE.png|70px]] || [[File:SteelIC.png|70px]] || [[File:SteelIC BDSP.png|70px]] || [[File:SteelIC LA.png|70px]]
|-bgcolor=#eee
| [[File:FireIC Stad.png]] || [[File:FireIC Stad2.png]] || [[File:FireIC Colo.png|50px]] || [[File:FireIC XD.png|50px]] || [[File:FireIC PBR.png|50px]]
| [[File:FireIC RSE.png]] || [[File:FireIC FRLG.png]] || [[File:FireIC Big.png]] || [[File:FireIC BW.png]]
| [[File:FireIC XY.png]] || [[File:FireIC SM.png]] || [[File:FireIC PE.png|70px]] || [[File:FireIC.png|70px]] || [[File:FireIC BDSP.png|70px]] || [[File:FireIC LA.png|70px]]
|-bgcolor=#eee
| [[File:WaterIC Stad.png]] || [[File:WaterIC Stad2.png]] || [[File:WaterIC Colo.png|50px]] || [[File:WaterIC XD.png|50px]] || [[File:WaterIC PBR.png|50px]]
| [[File:WaterIC RSE.png]] || [[File:WaterIC FRLG.png]] || [[File:WaterIC Big.png]] || [[File:WaterIC BW.png]]
| [[File:WaterIC XY.png]] || [[File:WaterIC SM.png]] || [[File:WaterIC PE.png|70px]] || [[File:WaterIC.png|70px]] || [[File:WaterIC BDSP.png|70px]] || [[File:WaterIC LA.png|70px]]
|-bgcolor=#eee
| [[File:GrassIC Stad.png]] || [[File:GrassIC Stad2.png]] || [[File:GrassIC Colo.png|50px]] || [[File:GrassIC XD.png|50px]] || [[File:GrassIC PBR.png|50px]]
| [[File:GrassIC RSE.png]] || [[File:GrassIC FRLG.png]] || [[File:GrassIC Big.png]] || [[File:GrassIC BW.png]]
| [[File:GrassIC XY.png]] || [[File:GrassIC SM.png]] || [[File:GrassIC PE.png|70px]] || [[File:GrassIC.png|70px]] || [[File:GrassIC BDSP.png|70px]] || [[File:GrassIC LA.png|70px]]
|-bgcolor=#eee
| [[File:ElectricIC Stad.png]] || [[File:ElectricIC Stad2.png]] || [[File:ElectricIC Colo.png|50px]] || [[File:ElectricIC XD.png|50px]] || [[File:ElectricIC PBR.png|50px]]
| [[File:ElectricIC RSE.png]] || [[File:ElectricIC FRLG.png]] || [[File:ElectricIC Big.png]] || [[File:ElectricIC BW.png]]
| [[File:ElectricIC XY.png]] || [[File:ElectricIC SM.png]] || [[File:ElectricIC PE.png|70px]] || [[File:ElectricIC.png|70px]] || [[File:ElectricIC BDSP.png|70px]] || [[File:ElectricIC LA.png|70px]]
|-bgcolor=#eee
| [[File:PsychicIC Stad.png]] || [[File:PsychicIC Stad2.png]] || [[File:PsychicIC Colo.png|50px]] || [[File:PsychicIC XD.png|50px]] || [[File:PsychicIC PBR.png|50px]]
| [[File:PsychicIC RSE.png]] || [[File:PsychicIC FRLG.png]] || [[File:PsychicIC Big.png]] || [[File:PsychicIC BW.png]]
| [[File:PsychicIC XY.png]] || [[File:PsychicIC SM.png]] || [[File:PsychicIC PE.png|70px]] || [[File:PsychicIC.png|70px]] || [[File:PsychicIC BDSP.png|70px]] || [[File:PsychicIC LA.png|70px]]
|-bgcolor=#eee
| [[File:IceIC Stad.png]] || [[File:IceIC Stad2.png]] || [[File:IceIC Colo.png|50px]] || [[File:IceIC XD.png|50px]] || [[File:IceIC PBR.png|50px]]
| [[File:IceIC RSE.png]] || [[File:IceIC FRLG.png]] || [[File:IceIC Big.png]] || [[File:IceIC BW.png]]
| [[File:IceIC XY.png]] || [[File:IceIC SM.png]] || [[File:IceIC PE.png|70px]] || [[File:IceIC.png|70px]] || [[File:IceIC BDSP.png|70px]] || [[File:IceIC LA.png|70px]]
|-bgcolor=#eee
| [[File:DragonIC Stad.png]] || [[File:DragonIC Stad2.png]] || [[File:DragonIC Colo.png|50px]] || [[File:DragonIC XD.png|50px]] || [[File:DragonIC PBR.png|50px]]
| [[File:DragonIC RSE.png]] || [[File:DragonIC FRLG.png]] || [[File:DragonIC Big.png]] || [[File:DragonIC BW.png]]
| [[File:DragonIC XY.png]] || [[File:DragonIC SM.png]] || [[File:DragonIC PE.png|70px]] || [[File:DragonIC.png|70px]] || [[File:DragonIC BDSP.png|70px]] || [[File:DragonIC LA.png|70px]]
|-bgcolor=#eee
| None || [[File:DarkIC Stad2.png]] || [[File:DarkIC Colo.png|50px]] || [[File:DarkIC XD.png|50px]] || [[File:DarkIC PBR.png|50px]]
| [[File:DarkIC RSE.png]] || [[File:DarkIC FRLG.png]] || [[File:DarkIC Big.png]] || [[File:DarkIC BW.png]]
| [[File:DarkIC XY.png]] || [[File:DarkIC SM.png]] || [[File:DarkIC PE.png|70px]] || [[File:DarkIC.png|70px]] || [[File:DarkIC BDSP.png|70px]] || [[File:DarkIC LA.png|70px]]
|-bgcolor=#eee
| None || None || None || None || None
| None || None || None || None
| [[File:FairyIC XY.png]] || [[File:FairyIC SM.png]] || [[File:FairyIC PE.png|70px]] || [[File:FairyIC.png|70px]] || [[File:FairyIC BDSP.png|70px]] || [[File:FairyIC LA.png|70px]]
|-bgcolor=#eee
| None || [[File:UnknownIC Stad2.png]] || [[File:UnknownIC Colo.png|50px]] || [[File:UnknownIC XD.png|50px]] || [[File:UnknownIC PBR.png|50px]]
| [[File:UnknownIC RSE.png]] || [[File:UnknownIC FRLG.png]] || [[File:UnknownIC Big.png]] || None
| None || None || None || None || None || None
|}

===Symbol icons===
{| class="roundy" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background: #{{black color dark}}; border: 5px solid #{{black color}}" cellpadding=2px
|- style="background-color: #fcfcfc;"
! style="{{roundytl|5px}}" | Type
! {{color2|000|Pokémon Ranger|Ranger}}
! {{color2|000|Pokémon Battrio|Battrio}}
! {{color2|000|Pokémon Tretta|Tretta}}
! {{color2|000|Pokémon GO|GO}}
! {{color2|000|Pokémon Rumble Rush|RRush}}
! {{color2|000|Pokémon Masters EX|MasEX}}
! {{color2|000|Pokémon Mezastar|Mezas}}
! {{color2|000|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Rescue Team DX|MD:DX}}
! style="{{roundytr|5px}}" | {{color2|000|New Pokémon Snap|NSnap}}
|- style="background-color: #eee"
| style="background: #{{Normal color light}}" | {{tcolor|Normal|{{Normal color dark}}}}
| [[File:Normal Assist.png]] || [[File:Battrio Normal type.png|40px]] || [[File:Tretta Normal type.png|40px]] || [[File:GO Normal.png|40px]] || [[File:NormalIC RR.png|40px]]
| [[File:NormalIC Masters.png|40px]] || [[File:Mezastar Normal type.png|40px]] || [[File:PMD DX Normal type.png|40px]] || [[File:NormalIC NPSnap.png|40px]]
|- style="background-color: #eee"
| style="background: #{{Fighting color light}}" | {{tcolor|Fighting|{{Fighting color dark}}}}
| [[File:Fighting Assist.png]] || [[File:Battrio Fighting type.png|40px]] || [[File:Tretta Fighting type.png|40px]] || [[File:GO Fighting.png|40px]] || [[File:FightingIC RR.png|40px]]
| [[File:FightingIC Masters.png|40px]] || [[File:Mezastar Fighting type.png|40px]] || [[File:PMD DX Fighting type.png|40px]] || [[File:FightingIC NPSnap.png|40px]]
|- style="background-color: #eee"
| style="background: #{{Flying color light}}" | {{tcolor|Flying|{{Flying color dark}}}}
| [[File:Flying Assist.png]] || [[File:Battrio Flying type.png|40px]] || [[File:Tretta Flying type.png|40px]] || [[File:GO Flying.png|40px]] || [[File:FlyingIC RR.png|40px]]
| [[File:FlyingIC Masters.png|40px]] || [[File:Mezastar Flying type.png|40px]] || [[File:PMD DX Flying type.png|40px]] || [[File:FlyingIC NPSnap.png|40px]]
|- style="background-color: #eee"
| style="background: #{{Poison color light}}" | {{tcolor|Poison|{{Poison color dark}}}}
| [[File:Poison Assist.png]] || [[File:Battrio Poison type.png|40px]] || [[File:Tretta Poison type.png|40px]] || [[File:GO Poison.png|40px]] || [[File:PoisonIC RR.png|40px]]
| [[File:PoisonIC Masters.png|40px]] || [[File:Mezastar Poison type.png|40px]] || [[File:PMD DX Poison type.png|40px]] || [[File:PoisonIC NPSnap.png|40px]]
|- style="background-color: #eee"
| style="background: #{{Ground color light}}" | {{tcolor|Ground|{{Ground color dark}}}}
| [[File:Ground Assist.png]] || [[File:Battrio Ground type.png|40px]] || [[File:Tretta Ground type.png|40px]] || [[File:GO Ground.png|40px]] || [[File:GroundIC RR.png|40px]]
| [[File:GroundIC Masters.png|40px]] || [[File:Mezastar Ground type.png|40px]] || [[File:PMD DX Ground type.png|40px]] || [[File:GroundIC NPSnap.png|40px]]
|- style="background-color: #eee"
| style="background: #{{Rock color light}}" | {{tcolor|Rock|{{Rock color dark}}}}
| [[File:Rock Assist.png]] || [[File:Battrio Rock type.png|40px]] || [[File:Tretta Rock type.png|40px]] || [[File:GO Rock.png|40px]] || [[File:RockIC RR.png|40px]]
| [[File:RockIC Masters.png|40px]] || [[File:Mezastar Rock type.png|40px]] || [[File:PMD DX Rock type.png|40px]] || [[File:RockIC NPSnap.png|40px]]
|- style="background-color: #eee"
| style="background: #{{Bug color light}}" | {{tcolor|Bug|{{Bug color dark}}}}
| [[File:Bug Assist.png]] || [[File:Battrio Bug type.png|40px]] || [[File:Tretta Bug type.png|40px]] || [[File:GO Bug.png|40px]] || [[File:BugIC RR.png|40px]]
| [[File:BugIC Masters.png|40px]] || [[File:Mezastar Bug type.png|40px]] || [[File:PMD DX Bug type.png|40px]] || [[File:BugIC NPSnap.png|40px]]
|- style="background-color: #eee"
| style="background: #{{Ghost color light}}" | {{tcolor|Ghost|{{Ghost color dark}}}}
| [[File:Ghost Assist.png]] || [[File:Battrio Ghost type.png|40px]] || [[File:Tretta Ghost type.png|40px]] || [[File:GO Ghost.png|40px]] || [[File:GhostIC RR.png|40px]]
| [[File:GhostIC Masters.png|40px]] || [[File:Mezastar Ghost type.png|40px]] || [[File:PMD DX Ghost type.png|40px]] || [[File:GhostIC NPSnap.png|40px]]
|- style="background-color: #eee"
| style="background: #{{Steel color light}}" | {{tcolor|Steel|{{Steel color dark}}}}
| [[File:Steel Assist.png]] || [[File:Battrio Steel type.png|40px]] || [[File:Tretta Steel type.png|40px]] || [[File:GO Steel.png|40px]] || [[File:SteelIC RR.png|40px]]
| [[File:SteelIC Masters.png|40px]] || [[File:Mezastar Steel type.png|40px]] || [[File:PMD DX Steel type.png|40px]] || [[File:SteelIC NPSnap.png|40px]]
|- style="background-color: #eee"
| style="background: #{{Fire color light}}" | {{tcolor|Fire|{{Fire color dark}}}}
| [[File:Fire Assist.png]] || [[File:Battrio Fire type.png|40px]] || [[File:Tretta Fire type.png|40px]] || [[File:GO Fire.png|40px]] || [[File:FireIC RR.png|40px]]
| [[File:FireIC Masters.png|40px]] || [[File:Mezastar Fire type.png|40px]] || [[File:PMD DX Fire type.png|40px]] || [[File:FireIC NPSnap.png|40px]]
|- style="background-color: #eee"
| style="background: #{{Water color light}}" | {{tcolor|Water|{{Water color dark}}}}
| [[File:Water Assist.png]] || [[File:Battrio Water type.png|40px]] || [[File:Tretta Water type.png|40px]] || [[File:GO Water.png|40px]] || [[File:WaterIC RR.png|40px]]
| [[File:WaterIC Masters.png|40px]] || [[File:Mezastar Water type.png|40px]] || [[File:PMD DX Water type.png|40px]] || [[File:WaterIC NPSnap.png|40px]]
|- style="background-color: #eee"
| style="background: #{{Grass color light}}" | {{tcolor|Grass|{{Grass color dark}}}}
| [[File:Grass Assist.png]] || [[File:Battrio Grass type.png|40px]] || [[File:Tretta Grass type.png|40px]] || [[File:GO Grass.png|40px]] || [[File:GrassIC RR.png|40px]]
| [[File:GrassIC Masters.png|40px]] || [[File:Mezastar Grass type.png|40px]] || [[File:PMD DX Grass type.png|40px]] || [[File:GrassIC NPSnap.png|40px]]
|- style="background-color: #eee"
| style="background: #{{Electric color light}}" | {{tcolor|Electric|{{Electric color dark}}}}
| [[File:Electric Assist.png]] || [[File:Battrio Electric type.png|40px]] || [[File:Tretta Electric type.png|40px]] || [[File:GO Electric.png|40px]] || [[File:ElectricIC RR.png|40px]]
| [[File:ElectricIC Masters.png|40px]] || [[File:Mezastar Electric type.png|40px]] || [[File:PMD DX Electric type.png|40px]] || [[File:ElectricIC NPSnap.png|40px]]
|- style="background-color: #eee"
| style="background: #{{Psychic color light}}" | {{tcolor|Psychic|{{Psychic color dark}}}}
| [[File:Psychic Assist.png]] || [[File:Battrio Psychic type.png|40px]] || [[File:Tretta Psychic type.png|40px]] || [[File:GO Psychic.png|40px]] || [[File:PsychicIC RR.png|40px]]
| [[File:PsychicIC Masters.png|40px]] || [[File:Mezastar Psychic type.png|40px]] || [[File:PMD DX Psychic type.png|40px]] || [[File:PsychicIC NPSnap.png|40px]]
|- style="background-color: #eee"
| style="background: #{{Ice color light}}" | {{tcolor|Ice|{{Ice color dark}}}}
| [[File:Ice Assist.png]] || [[File:Battrio Ice type.png|40px]] || [[File:Tretta Ice type.png|40px]] || [[File:GO Ice.png|40px]] || [[File:IceIC RR.png|40px]]
| [[File:IceIC Masters.png|40px]] || [[File:Mezastar Ice type.png|40px]] || [[File:PMD DX Ice type.png|40px]] || [[File:IceIC NPSnap.png|40px]]
|- style="background-color: #eee"
| style="background: #{{Dragon color light}}" | {{tcolor|Dragon|{{Dragon color dark}}}}
| [[File:Dragon Assist.png]] || [[File:Battrio Dragon type.png|40px]] || [[File:Tretta Dragon type.png|40px]] || [[File:GO Dragon.png|40px]] || [[File:DragonIC RR.png|40px]]
| [[File:DragonIC Masters.png|40px]] || [[File:Mezastar Dragon type.png|40px]] || [[File:PMD DX Dragon type.png|40px]] || [[File:DragonIC NPSnap.png|40px]]
|- style="background-color: #eee"
| style="background: #{{Dark color light}}" | {{tcolor|Dark|{{Dark color dark}}}}
| [[File:Dark Assist.png]] || [[File:Battrio Dark type.png|40px]] || [[File:Tretta Dark type.png|40px]] || [[File:GO Dark.png|40px]] || [[File:DarkIC RR.png|40px]]
| [[File:DarkIC Masters.png|40px]] || [[File:Mezastar Dark type.png|40px]] || [[File:PMD DX Dark type.png|40px]] || [[File:DarkIC NPSnap.png|40px]]
|- style="background-color: #eee"
| style="background: #{{Fairy color light}}; {{roundybl|5px}}" | {{tcolor|Fairy|{{Fairy color dark}}}}
| None || None || [[File:Tretta Fairy type.png|40px]] || [[File:GO Fairy.png|40px]] || [[File:FairyIC RR.png|40px]]
| [[File:FairyIC Masters.png|40px]] || [[File:Mezastar Fairy type.png|40px]] || [[File:PMD DX Fairy type.png|40px]]
| style="{{roundybr|5px}}" | [[File:FairyIC NPSnap.png|40px]]
|}

==In other games==
===Pokémon Mystery Dungeon series===
{{main|Damage modification (Mystery Dungeon)}}
In [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Red Rescue Team and Blue Rescue Team]], the matchup multipliers are 0.5×, 0.9×, 1× and 1.5×. In [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness|Explorers of Time, Darkness]] and [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky|Sky]], the multipliers have been changed to 0.5×, 0.7×, 1× and 1.4×; if either the attacker or the defender has Erratic Player IQ skill, they are 0.25×, 0.5×, 1× and 1.7×, instead. Immunities provided from Abilities or moves, such as {{a|Levitate}} or {{m|Magnet Rise}}, are still 0×.

In [[Pokémon Super Mystery Dungeon]], moves that are ineffective in the core series are now ineffective as well (0× damage).

===Pokémon Ranger series===
In the [[Pokémon Ranger series]], each Pokémon has a group, equivalent to a type in the core series. The effectiveness of [[Poké Assist]]s on [[wild Pokémon]] is dependent on the Pokémon's group.

===Pokémon Rumble series===
In the [[Pokémon Rumble series]], the type effectiveness chart differs from the equivalent type chart in contemporaneous core series games. Moves that are ineffective in the core series deal 0.6× damage instead, moves that would be not very effective against one or both of the target's types deal ~0.8× or ~0.7× damage, respectively, and moves that would be super effective against one or both of the target's types deal ~1.2× and ~1.4× damage, respectively. 

===Pokémon Battrio===
{{main|Type (Battrio)}}
Pokémon in [[Pokémon Battrio]] all have one type in line with one of their types in the core games. Battrio also includes two unique types exclusively for {{p|Arceus}}, the Full Plate and Eleven-Plate types.

Pokémon Battrio's type effectiveness chart is also unique, with different possible strengths for weaknesses or resistances. For example, while Grass-type Pokémon are weak to both Ice- and Fire-type moves, they are weaker to Fire-type moves than to Ice-type moves.

Players with a [[Pokémon Battrio#Memory Keys|Memory Key]] can also gain experience towards different types that will level up their {{DL|Type (Battrio)|Type Levels}}, granting Pokémon of that type a bonus in Attack or HP.

===Pokémon Shuffle===
{{main|Pokémon Shuffle#Type|Pokémon Shuffle → Type}}
Pokémon in [[Pokémon Shuffle]] each only have one type. Pokémon Shuffle's type effectiveness chart is also slightly different than the contemporaneous Generation VI chart, with 0× effectivenesses turned into ½× effectiveness.

===Pokémon GO===
In [[Pokémon GO]], type effectiveness multipliers differ from the core series games, but using the same type effectiveness chart.

The multiplier Pokémon GO is 1.6n (1.4 prior to December 12, 2018 and 1.25 prior to June 21, 2017). The exponent ''n'' starts at 0, with weakness adding 1, resistance substracting 1, and an immunity being equal to a double resistance, subtracting 2.

As such, the following multipliers are possible:
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|-
!Type effectiveness
!Multiplier
|- style="background: #fff"
| Doubly super effective
|×2.56
|- style="background: #fff"
| Super effective
|×1.6
|- style="background: #fff"
| Neutral
|×1
|- style="background: #fff"
| Resisted
|×0.625
|- style="background: #fff"
| Doubly resisted
|×0.390625
|- style="background: #fff"
| Triply resisted{{tt|*|Only possible if an attack is doubly resisted by dual-type's one type, and resisted by its other type - for example, a Poison-type attack on a Steel/Ground-type Pokémon}}
|×0.244140625
|}

===Pokémon UNITE===
There are no type advantages in [[Pokémon UNITE]].

==In the TCG==
{{main|Type (TCG)}}
There are eleven types in the [[Pokémon Trading Card Game]], significantly fewer than the in other Pokémon media. Because of the smaller number of types, Pokémon often have different types in the TCG to other Pokémon media. Due to the fact that Pokémon in the TCG can usually only have one type, dual-type Pokémon often have different cards which correspond to the Pokémon's two different types, since type is a property of the individual card and not the species. In the TCG, moves do not have their own type. Instead, for {{TCG|Weakness}} and {{TCG|Resistance}}, the type of the Pokémon card is used instead.

==In other languages==
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|zh_cmn=屬性 / 属性 ''{{tt|Shǔxìng|Type}}
|cs=Typ
|da=Type
|fi=Tyyppi
|fr=Type
|de=Typ Elementklasse{{tt|*|FireRed/LeafGreen’s Teachy TV only}}
|hi=प्रकार ''Prakaar''
|hu=Típus
|id=Tipe
|it=Tipo
|ko=타입 ''Type''
|ms=Type Jenis
|no=Type
|pl=Typ
|pt_br=Tipo Elemento{{tt|*|The Official Pokémon Handbook, Pokémon Club}}
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|ru=Тип ''Tip''
|es=Tipo
|sv=Typ Sort{{tt|*|DP002}} Elementklass{{tt|*|The Official Pokémon Handbook}}
|th=ประเภท ''Praphet''
|vi=Hệ
|tr=Tür
}}

==See also==
* [[Same-type attack bonus]]
* [[Type expert]]
* [[List of Pokémon with unique type combinations]]
* [[List of type combinations by abundance]]
* [[:Category:Moves that change a Pokémon's type]]
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Talk:Villainous team

2022-02-22T11:05:06Z

Lmoamemesxd:

== no team dim sum ==
that is how its spelled,ok? do not know anything abot team dim sum so can someone put it in.
[[User:GoldsWigglytuff|GoldsWigglytuff]]
:No, it's [[Team Dim Sun]]. Go check the official website for {{g|Ranger: Shadows of Almia}}, [http://www.pokemonranger.com] - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] '''|''' 20:48, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
::Just a small addition, information on Team Dim Sun will most likely be added once {{g|Ranger: Shadows of Almia}} is released in North America. - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] '''|''' 20:54, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

ok and its team Dim ''Sun'' sorry[[User:GoldsWigglytuff|GoldsWigglytuff]] 22:13, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

== Team Meanies ==

You know, from Pokémon Mystery Dungeon? Gengar, Medicham, and I forgot the other one. [[user:Simpsonsdude13| SD13 Simpsondude13>''']][[user talk:Simpsonsdude13|SD13 Talk]] 11:39, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

:Ekans. :P
:But they're more rivals than villains, I'd say. [[user talk:Reign|.:Reign:.]]

Rivals! They nearly get the player & partner KILLED! {{unsigned|Doggy567123}}

== Team Plasma ==

Team Plasma is noticeably absent from the article. Could someone add them?--[[User:RegiRuler|Regi]][[User talk:RegiRuler|Ruler]] 12:17, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

== Pokémon Pinchers ==

Can someone please add the Pokémon pinchers?
[[User:Masterjoe123|Masterjoe123]] 02:12, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

== Great Gavel? ==

[[Great Gavel|These guys]] are the main villains of [[Pokémon RéBURST]]. I know it's not a game, but these guys are actual main villains unlike some of the anime's occasional one episode villain teams so that makes them several times more likely. So I was wondering, should they be added? Maybe under an "other" category or should something like a special page for anime/manga original villains be made (and if it already has been made, could you direct it to me?) [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 02:13, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

== Strange layout ==

This page seems to go into deep detail about each team in the games, anime, and manga. I think it would be much better to simply have maybe one paragraph each and no sections for each medium. The teams have their own articles and don't need this much info on another page. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 09:28, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
:I agree. [[User:Duke R|'''|) u |( e''']] [[User talk:Duke R|'''®''']] 03:37, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

== Aether Foundation? ==

They may not have the word "Team" but they are the main antagonists of Sun and Moon and operate mostly like a team, can we add it? --[[User:Celadonkey|Celad]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|onkey]] 13:50, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
:This page is not for just "antagonists", it's basically for groups named like "Team [X]". Ignoring that—''especially'' when there's already a group in SM that fits that exactly—is very much trying to fit a square peg into a round hole; worse, a round hole that's already got a round peg in it.
:IMO Aether as a whole is also not evil. Aether has ''very'' clear "good" goals. It's Lusamine and maybe certain people, like Faba and maybe the people who work in the Secret Labs, who are doing bad things. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 14:03, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
::Bringing back this discussion a bit late - I think it's a bit silly that we're judging whether something is a "villainous team" or not based on whether they have "team" in their name or not. And the bit about "there's already a group in SM that fits that exactly" makes more sense, but both of these points are ignored by [[Cipher]] and [[Team Snagem]], who are both on the page.

::"Aether is not evil" is a good point here, but although other teams may not be quite as extreme, other teams like Team Magma could be argued to have generally a good motive. Disregarding this, though, although it is clear that even though members of Aether joined for good reasons, they did serve as an obstacle for the player - they were likely blindly following their leader's word, like Team Plasma. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celad]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|onkey]] 00:04, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
:::Team Plasma isn't the golden boy (or silver boy or whatever) that you want it to be. In the real world, eco-terrorists may have a "noble" goal, but that doesn't automatically make their methods or therefore the group itself okay. Team Plasma's methods are generally of a decidedly ''radical'' bent--against the law, or at least general ethics. You can't compare Aether to Team Plasma like that.
:::If you ask me, it's silly to argue that a "villainous '''team'''" shouldn't be a "team". If you want something else, that's one thing; but that's practically the opposite of a good "reason" to shove odds and ends under the label of a "villainous team".
:::And if you think Cipher should be removed, that might be okay. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:47, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
::::Yes, I know Team Plasma isn't the "golden boy" or whatever, I said "although other teams may not be quite as extreme". But they both have very clear "good" goals, and it's Ghetsis and maybe certain people like Zinzolin who are doing bad things, just as you said about Aether.

::::Of course it's silly to argue a "villainous '''team'''" shouldn't be a "team". But I think it's equally silly to argue that for something to BE a team, it has to use "team" in its name. I don't think we should remove Cipher, as it has always been considered an antagonist team, but it doesn't have team in its name. It's still just as much of a team. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celad]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|onkey]] 12:11, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
:::::Team Plasma Grunts (and higher) are you villains throughout the story, that's simply inarguable... That's most of what you see; the "good" part is, at best, a "side story". Aether is the opposite. Aether aren't the ones ''actively'' being your villains throughout the story; that's Team Skull. And what you see is them being good most of the time; the "evil" part is just that: only a part of their story. It's not like every Aether character you've met turns around and reveals themselves to have been evil the whole time and they were all just using you or something. If we had a page about antagonists, I'd be happy putting them there with appropriate nuance. But they ''do not'' deserve to be called a "villainous team". No part of that accurately/reliably describes the foundation's character; it's painting the whole damn thing with far too broad of a brush, when what it deserves is ''nuance''.
:::::I think you and I simply won't agree about "teams". I absolutely do not consider Aether Foundation to be a "team" remotely like Team Rocket/etc. I'm not certain whether to attribute that to their being more of an organization than a gang like the "teams", or equally to their fundamentally being a force of good, but I do ''not'' consider them to fit this mold. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 12:30, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
::::::Just for reference, I hope you have you also seen [[Talk:Alola#Regional Villains|this earlier discussion]]!?
::::::As I said there, this isn't to be solved objectively. But basically, I agree with Tiddlywinks in that Aether isn't really villainous as an organization, and not a "terrorist organization" (which is the current definition for it to belong here).
::::::One major difference to Plasma is that, unlike them, once their leader's bad intentions become apparent, Aether (quickly) reform so that more or less, they basically kick the bad guys out of their organization; Plasma had the opposite. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 12:50, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
:::::::I was to say this, but since there's been more discussion since I've started typing, I'll just kind of awkwardly leave this here.

:::::::Yeah, it's clear we're not going to agree. But considering this is mostly where I go for "antagonist" purposes, I think it would be nice to move this page, or at least make a new page, for "Antagonists", since there's really only one antagonist that, according to you, doesn't fit here, and move this one to "Crime organizations" for a more clear definition. (Preferably just move this page to Antagonists without creating a new page just for teams, since it's nearly the same.)--[[User:Celadonkey|Celad]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|onkey]] 12:59, 18 March 2017 (UTC)

== "Criminal terrorist organizations" ==

I wouldn't exactly call, say, Team Skull a 'terrorist organization'. I think 'crime gangs' would suffice. --[[User:Lmoamemesxd|Lmoamemesxd]] ([[User talk:Lmoamemesxd|talk]]) 15:20, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

== Should this page be streamlined? ==

I was briefly editing this page, though thought it could be streamlined immensely. Looking at other key character type pages such as the [[Pokémon Professor]] page, it only contains a generalist statement about the role that type of character plays within the Pokémon universe and simply links to the various articles. The [[Gym Leader]] and [[Elite Four]] pages also follow a similar structure. The work done on this page would not go to waste, it could simply be merged with the other antagonist pages to make them potentially more detailed, and this one can act as a detailed version of a redirect page with links to each of these respective pages.[[User:PardescanSlowbro|PardescanSlowbro]] ([[User talk:PardescanSlowbro|talk]]) 04:02, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

== Move? ==

Should the page be moved from "villainous teams" to just "villainous team", to maintain consistency with Bulbapedia's other pages? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 14:07, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
:Yeah, I think it should be. We don't usually have plurals as page titles. ~ [[User:Dannyboy601|Dannyboy601]] ([[User talk:Dannyboy601|talk]]) 02:07, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

== What about Macro Cosmos? ==

--Taufiq32 15:03, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
:Macro Cosmos is not an evil team. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 19:00, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

== Diamond and Pearl Clans? ==

While not exactly villainous, I believe they should be added, they have "-dan" in their Japanese name - they're "gangs" in the same sense as "Yell Gang". They also fight each other and cause trouble in a similar manner to Teams Magma and Aqua. The English "Clan" names should not affect the encylopaedic categories on a Japanese franchise. [[User:Lmoamemesxd|Lmoamemesxd]] ([[User talk:Lmoamemesxd|talk]]) 11:05, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

Talk:Mew (Pokémon)/Archive 1

2022-02-18T02:22:25Z

Lmoamemesxd: signed

==Mew's abilities==

In the first movie, mew used a bubble of pink psychic energy to save Ash. It also utilized this ability several other times throughout the movie. However, this is not stated in the "special abilities" section, alhtough what is stated is that mew can create forcefields. Forcefields and pink bubbles are two different things, this is best shown by the contrast between Mew "forcefield" in pokemon snap (which is also yellow/green) and Mew's Bubble in the first movie. So does anyone mind if I add in the bit about the pink bubbles? {{unsigned|Wikid}}

No, please do so. Add a picture if you feel like it. Just make sure it meets quality standards. [[User:LordArceus|LordArceus]] 23:51, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

== Mew doesn't listen? ==

Mew doesn't listen to its original trainer? Is this true? --[[User:Pluvia|Pluvia]] 20:52, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
:If you hack it in Gen III or IV, yes. Same with Deoxys. --'''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 21:59, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Is this always the case? I've seen a hacked Mew (Gen IV) that (according to the owner) is completely obedient. Could this be because the friendship level is so high, or is it just a fluke? [[User:Featherflame|Featherflame]] 20:51, 8/10/07

Mew and Deoxys are obedient in Gen IV even if they're hacked. [[User:Vereux0|Vereux0]] 20:08, 8/20/07

In Gen III, Mew and Deoxys have an obediance bit. If this is missing, they won't obey. It is possible to hack a Mew or Deoxys and have it obey. To answer the question, it depends on how it's hacked. - [[User:MacGyver|MacGyver]]
:And the obedience bit is automatically turned on when they get transferred over through Pal Park, I believe. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 02:50, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

If a mew that is transfered from a GBA game that was hacked to get it,will it corrupt the D/P game? And will it listen? I'm just asking. [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User:MAXDude17]]
:Hmmm...I just tested this in diamond with an action replay thingy (don't worry i deleted the mew right after) and it works fine. Obeys and everything. -- [[User:Salome|Salome]] 23:38, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

There is no obedient bit in Diamond/Pearl. It was a feature that was intentionally removed. [[User:Sabresite|Sabresite]] 08:18, 24 March 2009 (GMT)

== mew glitch ==

i really dont think that the mew glitch should be in the in-game locations table, seeing as it is not actually a location, and not legitamite...
any thoughts?

[[User:Bill33421|Bill33421]] 19:54, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

:It's still a way to obtain Mew, and it can be done without cheating. --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]][[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Talk]] | [[User:Shiny Noctowl/Fun|Fun]] 20:53, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
::Correction: without a using a cheat device. Most would consider abusing a glitch to be the same as cheating.--[[User:Dual|Dual]] 23:27, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

I agree with that. [[User:Cerberus|Cerberus]] 03:22, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
::But it's kinda... I dunno, it's a glitch. Abusing glitches also means that Missingno shouldn't be here. People visit him on the side of Cinnabar to get 128 (or something~) Rare Candies and Master Balls. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 03:32, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Given the nature of Mew's availability, it's just nice to have something in the table other than "Trade". --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 10:58, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
::::Maybe instead "Nintendo event"? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]][[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 02:12, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::It's worth adding in even if it comes under glitchs or somthing! -- [[User:Awar|Awar]] 14:09, 7 December 2007 (UTC).
::::::Imma add just 'Nintendo event'. Feel free to revert. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 18:16, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::Oh lol. >> It's already have been done. Er... heh. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 18:17, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
~--[[User:Starlight the ampharos|Starlight_the_ampharos]] 13:39, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

=== Later discussion ===
The Mew Glitch is a perfectly legitimate way to capture Mew, considering the fact that [[Shigeki Morimoto]] programmed it in on purpose.
[[User:MasterZ|MasterZ]] ([[User talk:MasterZ|talk]])

:He didn't program in the Mew glitch; he programmed in the Pokemon Mew itself. The glitch is not intrinsically related to Mew itself; it was only named as such because it happened to become famous for being a non-hacking way to obtain Mew. It doesn't belong in the Game Locations section because literally every Generation I Pokemon (and, to my knowledge, every Gen I glitch Pokemon as well) can be obtained via the glitch. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 23:36, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

== I must be insane.... ==

Ok so Arceus tottaly conflicts with with mew but arceus came from an egg. What if mew was the egg and therefor is the ancestor of all pokemon mew just didnt "create" any new pokemon. In fact it was never even mentioned (to my knowlage) that he did. So therefor mew remains to look like a embryo (catching drift egg) and we shall never know~kittenchild
:which came first, the {{tt|Arceus|Chicken}} or the {{tt|Mew|Egg}}? -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 03:02, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Well by my theory and using the myths it states that "...at the heart of chaos where all things became one, appeared an Egg. Having tumbled from the vortex, the Egg gave rise to the original one." This states that the egg came before arceus. {{unsigned|Kittenchild}}

::Arceus was born from the cosmic Egg, but Mew contains the DNA of all Pokémon. It can be assumed that Arceus is the Creator and first Pokémon, but Mew is the common ancestor (assuming Arceus wasn't like Zeus who went spreading his genes all over the landscape).--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 03:21, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

oh and by this theory im not saying arceus didnt create the pokemon universe im saying mew didnt realy "create" anything he just kinda was there... and his Dna is in everything (pokemon of course) {{unsigned|Kittenchild}}
:Mew's Pokadex entry says that it is the ancestor of ALL Pokamon. And Arceus is the fat ass who created EVERYTHING (I then assume this includes <s>Mewtwo</s> Mew too). So, did Mew evolve into Arceus? Or did Arceus create Mew? It's all very confusing. Posted by the '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''08:06 21 May 2008'''''

Arceus created Mew, then Mew created/whatever/evolved(evolved as in Apes into Humans, not Bulbasaur into Ivysaur)/mutated into other Pokémon. Maybe thats how it happened? [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 09:48, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
:But Mew evolved into Arceus. It is the ancestor of ALL Pokémon. Posted by the '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''09:50 21 May 2008'''''
::Hmm...errr...This is getting confusing! If thats true, but my theory is also true at the same time would that mean Arceus ''isn't'' a pokémon?! ...Then again, it's the GOD/Alpha(if i remember rightly), that would mean it would have HAD too have come first. [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 09:53, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
:::Right, so why can it be captured in a Pokéball (FORGET THE RICE BALL INCIDENT!!!) Posted by the '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''09:55 21 May 2008'''''
::::...I know Arceus is a Pokémon i was just saying :\ Look. The way i see it, Arceus came first, created Mew, and Mew became the other Pokémon (not like, the Legendaries). Just because it's the ancestor of all Pokémon doesn't mean it's the ansector of the God Pokémon, i'm sure Mew isn't the ancestor of the Legendaries as it says Arceus created Palkia, Diagla and Giratina and some others (if i remember rightly!). [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 15:32, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

No noo noo. I meant mew hatched arceus (being the egg and all) and therefor because mew "created" (not realy) arceus' gentic meterial then arceus went to create the rest of the pokemon that genetic meterial caried over and mew never realy did squat... {{unsigned|Kittenchild}}

Ok, this is what happened. First come Arceus. He say "I wanna Dialga and Palkia." And he made them. Next he say "Now i want universe." So he made universe. Next he say "I want living things." So he made Mew who laid eggs of Pokémon, and live-birthed humans. They all got up, but they each had no souls. Arceus say "Imma gonna give you souls." So he maid the lake trio who gave them all souls. Arceus fell asleep. Teh end. You can quote me on that. [[User:LordKaien|LordKaien]] 16:18, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
:But Mew's Pokédex entry states that it's the ancestor of ''all'' Pokémon. Here's what I think happened:
#The egg of Arceus is created from the chaos.
#The egg hatches.
#The eggshell, which was made of genetic material, forms into Mew. (This makes Mew the ancestor of Arceus.)
#Arceus creates Dialga and Palkia. (This makes Mew the ancestor of Dialga and Palkia.)
#Arceus creates Uxie, Mesprit, and Azelf. (This makes Mew the ancestor of Uxie, Mesprit, and Azelf.)
#Mew's descendants are all slightly different, and their descendants are slightly more different, and so on, until there are all of the different species of Pokémon. (This makes Mew the ancestor of all other Pokémon.)

--[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 00:07, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

:The Pokédex in ''Diamond & Pearl'' doesn't specifically state that Mew may be the ancestor of ''all'' Pokémon. Just that many scientists believe that it's the ancestor of Pokémon... ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:18, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

You have to admit, it may be that Arceus created Mew, then Mew created the rest of the Pokémon. At least, that's what it looks like.[[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 20:00, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

:That's the idea I had as well. Arceus took to slumber after creating reality and Mew created all other Pokémon. Perhaps Arceus created all Legendaries and Mew created the rest. Sinnoh myths only mention Dialga and Palkia and the Lake Trio because most people don't know of the other Legendary Pokémon of the region, and they probably wouldn't know of another region's Legendaries. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 20:12, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
:: It's subjects like this that just make you wish you could get Tajiri to do an interview r something...([[User:Fossilgojira|Fossilgojira]] 21:54, 11 June 2008 (UTC))
Yeah, only a few people in Sinnoh know about other Legendaries living in their own backyard like Cresselia and Heatran. The book in Canalave City apparently refers to Arceus as the "Original One", meaning that Arceus came before Mew.[[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 20:20, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
:: General consensus is all that is indicated by the Pokedex. Arceus is known to have created Palkia and Dialga, who in turn created the universe, while he created Uxie, Mesprit and Azelf, who are credited with the creation of "spirit". This obviously makes them the progenitors of pokemon and humans. It's also worth noting that they all bear a more-than-superficial resemblance to Mew, all being extraordinarily powerful psychic pokemon. Mew, I believe, was their first collaborative creation, combining the essences of Knowledge, Emotion and Willpower into a single entity. It was unstable, so as it laid eggs, they hatched into things that definitely were NOT Mew. That instability diluted acrost generations until pokemon species were all stable (except, of course, Mew). The exemptions to this origin are Arceus, Palkia, Dialga, and the Lake Trio, for obvious reasons; Giratina, likely spontaneously creating itself upon the first death; and Darkrai, created gradually by psychoses, rage, and bad pizza forming nightmares. Shaymin most likely IS Mew-descended as we have no reason to think otherwise. Forgive me for talking so heavily in-universe, and remember all this is prefaced with "I believe...". [[User:SixthFlyingMan|SixthFlyingMan]] 03:26, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
:: Also, Cresselia, she was formed of good dreams rather than nightmares, and not of Mew. [[User:SixthFlyingMan|SixthFlyingMan]] 06:50, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Mew is stated to have all the Pokémon's DNA. A literal understanding makes one believe Arceus' DNA is included, but one must think of the difficulty of obtaining a DNA sample from a Pokémon in another dimension. Mew is a scientific reason for all these little criters while Arceus seems to be a more religiopus explanation (though it never said it created any Pokémon apart from the Sinnoh legends)
--[[User:Outrage DD|Outrage DD]] 23:40, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

::::Which even then, it's unknown if it actually did create it or if people just lied about it and believed their own propaganda (I mean, it's a MYTH. Myths aren't usually true. In fact, it's extremely unlikely that it is true. I mean, did Zeus create lighting? No, he didn't. Did Poseidon and Apollo create the Trojan wall? No they didn't, as they technically don't exist.). A common rule for Mythology is that it's mostly created from a bunch of falsehoods in a futile attempt to explain what had happened in terms of creation (the Bible doesn't count, as there's been archaeological evidence that the events in the Bible happened exactly as it was described.). [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 03:17, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::Er, Zeus just throws lightning...Hephaestus smithies lightning bolts for him. So technically Hephaestus created lightning. And why would Poseidon make a wall for Troy if he supported Greece? And yes, the Bible counts in this...(what evidence is there of the Biblical creation story again?). You have to take that sort of thing with a grain of salt; things happened "exactly as described" is an impossibility. I mean, there's evidence the Trojan War happened, but obviously without gods throwing out divine intervention left and right.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 05:23, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::Not to be a jerk, but only the later Biblical stories are confirmed. As in, the ones where God doesn't make an appearance. Eden's a myth too. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:54, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::I would say “Please don’t turn this into an IRL religion debate”… but it’s too late for that now. Good grief. [[User:IIMarckus|IIMarckus]] 05:57, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
:If two possesses one's DNA, does that mean that two is the ancestor of one? No. For pete's sake, with that logic humans are the ancestors of Gorillas. (Though you have to admit, both species are equally wild). '''[[User:Optimatum|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]] 06:02, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
::Ok, you know what, let's just stop this thing, and anyone who wishes to continue can take it to my talk page (as it was partially my fault that this started). Oh, and BTW, the Politically Incorrect Guide to the Bible and Christianity already confirmed that most of the events (Yes, even the ones where God directly appeared) did already happen, and there was a special in regards to the Moses incident in Egypt. just something that's FYI, as well as my final note in regards to IRL. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 13:28, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
:I don't meen to bring up the topic again but im pretty sure it happens like so
Beginning of universe
Arceus comes into being.
Arceus creates the dragon trio and the lake trio.
Giratina disappears into the Ruined World.
Dialga and Palkia create matter, space, and time.
Azelf, Uxie, and Mesprit create spirit.
Arceus falls into a deep sleep.
Creation of Pokémon world
Groudon is formed from magma, Kyogre is formed by the pressure in the deep sea trenches, Rayquaza is formed by the minerals of the ozone layer.
Groudon brings the land, Kyogre expands the sea.
Mew is born.
Groudon and Kyogre battle, destroying nearly all the Hoenn region.
Rayquaza stopped the battle between Groudon and Kyogre. Both Pokémon were fallen into deep sleep: Kyogre was sealed into the Deep-Sea Seafloor cavern, and Groudon was sealed on the Mystic caves of Mt. Chimney. Red and Blue Orbs were created and guarded in the high peaks of Mt. Pyre to prevent the awakening of Kyogre and Groudon which will start into a battle.
Rayquaza had fallen into a deep sleep and sealed away into the ancient Sky Pillar.
Mt. Coronet is created.
Regigigas moves the continents.
The Sinnoh region is created around Mt. Coronet
Stark Mountain is created, Heatran is formed from lava. --[[Mew (Pokémon)|M]][[User:MyUU|yU]][[User talk:MyUU|U]] 18:50, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

This topic has filled up with wonderful speculation (come on, seriosuly? Arceus's egg becoming Mew?), but it hardly matters because there is no conflict. Please note that NEVER has it ever been said that Mew is the ancestor of Pokémon; in a Dex entry it said that was ''believed'' to be true because it contains every Pokémon's DNA. So, Arceus was first, and it created Mew (I would guess) with all of that DNA. Oh, and Myuu, I applaud your history. It's nice. ;) [[User:LordArceus|LordArceus]] 23:56, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

So... What if Mew was the first one? I mean, Arceus could have made universe, time, space, dimentions, etc. but mew made dialga, palkia, giratina... Also, life was made by mew, earth was made by the weather trio, and the life in it was made by mew, so it is the ancestor of everyone, maybe arceus doesnt have mews dna, as noone in the pokemon world knows about it... so scientist could say that of the 492 pokemon known, mew has dna of every... couldn't it be?- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Kamusioso|Kamusioso]] ([[User talk:Kamusioso|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kamusioso|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''
:OBJECTION. Arceus created two beings! They wished and matter came to being! That is a clear contradiction with the witness's theory! '''[[User:Optimatum|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]] 23:59, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Here`s my opinion: It is possible that Mew was the first pokemon created by Arceus, and therefore has the DNA of all the OTHER pokemon. If it had Arceus` DNA, then scientists in the pokemon world would technically know it exists (please excuse any spelling errors)--[[User:Starlight the ampharos|Starlight_the_ampharos]] 02:27, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
:Even if they did find the DNA strand, they wouldn't be able to identify it. And there are MANY undiscovered Pokémon according to the Proffessors in the games.- ''unsigned comment from {{u|Rocket Admin Hunter Blade}} ([[User talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''

::That's what I meant. They wouldn't know what pokémon the DNA belongs to, but I'm sure they would know it wasn't any officialy discovered pokémon, or at least not one they know of.--[[User:Starlight the ampharos|Starlight_the_ampharos]] 13:39, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Well, we don't know if the PokeDex is right, I mean, Oak doesn't know EVERYTHING. Also, no one ever caught Mew, so we don't know if it has all of the DNA of all of the pokemon. I think Arceus created the universe,and the dragon trio and the lake trio, and Arceus set the chain of events that would create the 'nature' Legendaries, like Groudon coming from magma, ect. But what about Deoxys? Where did Deoxys come from. In the anime it says from outer space. So, that would mean that Palkia would have created Deoxys, and Raquaza. {{unsigned|Shadow lucario}}

:First off, Palkia does NOT represent Outer Space. It represents "Space", as in, wormholes, fabrics (Not clothes fabrics, Science fabrics.), "Space/Time Continuum", etc. Secondly, considering how Arceus is listed to be a Pokemon in the Pokedex, not to mention it's data is easily recorded into the Pokedex as well, most likely researchers DO know about Arceus' existance (not just believing, actually knowing it exists and having samples of it's DNA.). So they didn't capture Mew, big whoop. They identified it in the Pokedex, nonetheless. I still think it's Mew who created Arceus, and until they actually clarify what they meant for starting this debate, we still have to think that Arceus was a genetic descendant of Mew, considering Mew's mentions of containing the DNA of Pokemon (Yes, it technically doesn't say "All" in there, but it doesn't say "Some", "Few", "Many", or any of those restrictive nouns either. Plus, using generalizations (Like just saying Pokemon), regardless of whether it actually says "all" or not, usually implies that it's meaning all. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 22:23, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
::How did we get from the Mew Glitch to this? ... Please, take any discussion about the origin of Pokemon to the Bulbagarden Forums, as we cannot put anything into ''this'' article until an official release from Nintendo, etc. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 22:35, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Good point, but as the pokédex states that "many scientists '''believe''' Mew to be the ancestor of Pokémon" and Arceus that it is told/described in '''mythology''', my point being that Mew is scientific theory and Arceus its just a myth that he created the universe, just like Zeus. - AOS

Okay, forget what I said about Mew only having the DNA of all the other Pokémon. If it was created by Arceus, then it could inherit Arceus' DNA.--[[User:Starlight the ampharos|Starlight the ampharos]] 03:42, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

I didn't read most of everything said, i just thought i'd put in my bits. Mew seems to me like the "Evolution" in pokemon: they're all evolved down from Mew, because he is the embryo. Like, Mew is the Darwin pokemon they've all evolved from (not pokemon evolution, but Darwin evolution). Arceus, on the other hand, is more of a God figure, which contradicts Evolution. So like... i don't see how they fit in the same world, but Pokemon is quite the odd game, haha! But i do think Mew is like, the evolution theory, and Arceus is the God theory. :o [[User:CherryParanoia|CherryParanoia]] 05:30, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

== discovery? ==
who discovered Mew, Team Rocket of Professor Oak? the Official Pokémon Handbook says Oak, but it seems like TR was behind it. [[User:Mooites|Mooites]] 03:23, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
:The Handbooks take a lot of...liberties...I for one don't particularly trust them with this sort of thing.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 06:24, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

::Perhaps it's because Mew has an entry in the Pokédex that they figure that Oak discovered it. If Team Rocket discovered Mew, would anyone else know about it? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 14:04, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

FireRed and Leafgreen say that some scientists from Cinnabar discovered Mew in South America.[[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]][[User talk:BlueJirachi|WishMaker]] 14:15, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

==TM lists==

Is it really necessary for list every single TM/HM under [[Mew (Pokémon)#By TM/HM|By TM/HM]]? Why not state that Mew can learn any TM/HM available and link them to the [[TM]] and [[HM]] pages? -[[User:Chosen|Chosen of Mana]]

:It's most likely to remain consistant with the other pages... ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 19:44, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

But its a much better idea to do what [[User:Chosen|Chosen of Mana]] said as it wastes much less space [[User:Wikid|Wikid]] 22:29, 29 June 2008 (UTC)[[User:Wikid|Wikid]]
:If that's true, it's a much better idea to combine Caterpie and Metapod's pages with Butterfree's, too, because the first two are USELESS. But we don't. Bulbapedia strives for completeness. Plus, you can just copy/paste Mew's learnset and subtract from it what you need to when adding them to the other Pokémon pages. Plus, think of it this way, you can see the contest stats for all of them, as well as the PP, type, power, damage category, and so on. Can you do that if we were just to put "LOL, EVERYTHING"? Nope.
:Which is... pretty much why I think the move articles need an overhaul. I'll work on that later on. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:14, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

== Disobediance ==

This quote in the '''Game locations''' section...:

''"In [[Generation III]] onward, Mew does not obey when found in the wild by use of a [[cheating]] device."''

...is not true. I've obtained Mew through Action Replay and they obey. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 05:43, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

:I removed the statement. I used the "encounter any Pokémon in the wild" cheat to catch a shiny Mew in Diamond and it obeys just fine. No problems at all. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 19:22, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
::Technically this happens only in Generation III. The same is true for a Deoxys caught with a GameShark or other cheating device, but I've only seen it disobey in Gen. 3. Blazevoir 19:47, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

:::I did come across a Mew in Gen III that didn't listen, but there are other codes out there that allow you to catch a Mew that does obey. And not just the Mew found in Emerald. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 19:56, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Regarding this, please read my comment above, there is no obedience bit in the DS games. All pokemon that needed the bit in GBA, had it when obtained in a legit fashion. [[User:Sabresite|Sabresite]] 08:21, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

== time to hatch ==

Umm...How can Mew have a "time to hatch" when afaik it is impossible to get a Mew egg? [[User:Kidburla|Kidburla]] 23:27, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
:''Every'' Pokémon is given that datum, whether it can come from an egg or not. Presumably so the game doesn't collapse in on itself. We get this stuff by digging around in the game data.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 23:31, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
::Exactly, it's the same thing as empty slot Pokémon like Missingno. They exist because game data must be complete. For example, let's say Mew was never coded as having a 'Time to Hatch.' If someone hacked a Mew egg, the game would just die right then and there because it's drawing on nonexistant data. Games like this can't have nulls, they just freeze. [[User:LordArceus|LordArceus]] 00:00, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

== giving birth ==
I'm not so sure that when the programmers put "mew gave birth" into the diary, that that's what they literally meant. Couldn't it be more of a metaphor for the fact that after all the hard work the scientists went through, they wrote mew gave birth because the scientists were finally able to successfully clone mew? Although it wasn't stated in the games, in the anime it's mentioned that there were others before Mewtwo that didn't survive the cloning process. So maybe it's possible that they meant the cloning was finally a success rather than mew actually giving birth. [[User:InuMimi|InuMimi]] 19:36, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

:That's exactly what I think as well. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 13:40, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

::I don't think Mew 'gave birth' in the literal sense, either. I think by that statement it's implying Mew's ''DNA'' birthed Mewtwo. [[User:Wicked Weavile|Wicked Weavile]] 10:55, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

:::To be honest, when i first read the diary entry in the game, i ''assume'' it meant it as a Metaphor. [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 11:18, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Who knows? Probably there is more than one Mew (which I believe), it wouldn't be the first "legendary" that can be more than one.--[[User talk:AOS|AOS]] 03:10, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

== Mew is catchable ==
My friend told me that you could catch Mew by defeating the Elite Four 12 or maybe 20 times ,and it worked for him, and he doesn't have a hacking device. It didn't work for my other friend, though. I did it and that worked, but I'm not sure if I should put it on the article because I am not sure if there's a 50 percent chance of this or something. Can someone please verify this on his/her FireRed/ LeafGreen Version? -Metagross72
:He's lying. There have been MANY rumors like that, in every Pokémon game, and there always fake. Even if he did find a way to get Mew, beating the Elite Four X-number of times wont get you Mew. [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 05:10, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
::'Many' is a gigantic understatement. OMFGQGB GUYZ!!!! CATCH DEOXYS FROM TEH SPACECENTR!!!11!211! Please spare us the trouble of saying no and just don't believe rumors from [insert friend's or friends' name(s) here]. [[User:LordArceus|LordArceus]] 00:02, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

There is no space center Deoxys in Emerald. And if that's what you're saying, please don't get angry; I just misunderstood. [[User:Palkiajosh|パルキアJosh]] 18:04, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
:He's citing the Deoxys space center rumor as an example of the rumors that fly around. You should be able to tell he's not being serious by the raucous tone and...terrible spelling and use of internet slang in a ridiculous manner. (Note he says "don't listen to rumors ''immediately'' afterward.) And this talk topic has been dead for over a month.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 22:12, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

More like dead since Blue and Red versions. - AOS

== Arceus vs. Mew ==

Please see [[Talk:Arceus (Pokémon)#Arceus vs. Mew]].[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 05:53, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

== Stadium games glitching ==

Isn't it true that if you deposit Mew in a box in either of the Stadium games, it causes some saved data to glitch? I've heard of this happening to other people, and it's even happened to me: When I stuck Mew in an N64 box in Stadium 2, I had to re-do all the cups (but box data was strangely intact). [[User:Blaziken257|Blaziken257]] 22:34, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

== XD Tutor Moves ==
In Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness, there is a special move tutor that teaches only Mew moves. Anyone got a list of those moves for this page? [[User:Gywall|'''Gywall''']]([[User_talk:Gywall|Talk]]) 21:42, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
:Done. [[User:Ht14|ht14]] 21:09, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

== Okay... ==

Who the fluff keeps adding the Mew glitch to the locations, huh? GLITCHES ARE NOT OFFICIAL WAYS OF GETTING THE POKÉMON, OTHERWISE GOLBAT SHOULD BE LISTED AS BEING FOUND ON ROUTE 20 IN RED AND BLUE. But '''''IT'S NOT'''''. Any Pokémon can be found anywhere by screwing with the game, whether with glitches or [[GameShark|otherwise]]. DO NOT list them as legitimate ways of obtaining ''any Pokémon'' from now on. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:14, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
::Don't get mad, mate. Take it easy. - AOS
:...Golbat can be found in route 20? Well, thats a glitch i've never heard off... [[User:Takoto|~~Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 19:19, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
::Right side of Cinnabar Island = Route 20. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:47, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

==Japanese name==
on the page mew (Pokémon) it states that Mew's japanese name is Mew I'm pretty sure it is Myuu but I might be wrong {{unsigned|MyUU}}
:According to our [[List of Japanese Pokémon names]], the name is actually Myū, but the trademarked romaji is Mew, so we're sticking with that. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 23:32, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
::I don't know that much Japanese but I do know that technically it is Myū, but it's trademarked as Mew and it's easier for non-Japanese speakers to understand what it says. [[User:Dialgarules|Dialgarules]] 23:35, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

== Wi-fi Square ==

There is an Easter Egg Mew room in the Wi-fi square. Do you think we should add it, or should that go in the Wi-fi Square article? Or maybe both? [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 22:31, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

REALLY? I wonder if it'll be in the English version... Are you sure it's not a glitch? [[User:Palkiajosh|パルキアJosh]] 18:02, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

== In the trivia........ ==

When it says that Mew was the first ever trademark, does it mean the Mew was the first Pokemon ever to be created in the franchise? --[[User:Kid Sonic|Kid Sonic]] 23:19, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
:Its name was registered first. Doesn't mean it was ''created'' first, but it was submitted for legal protection first.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 23:36, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
::Mew is such a simple name that Nintendo were probably worried that someone else would think of it, so they trademarked it as soon as possible.- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] ([[User talk:Taromon777|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Taromon777|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''

So who was the first Pokemon created as to Togepi of Johto, Kecleon of Hoenn, and Munchlax of Sinnoh? --[[User:Kid Sonic|Kid Sonic]] 05:01, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
:That we'd have to ask them about. I've got no idea of any of their emails, but we could possibly submit this to Pokémon.com's mailbag... Remember that Ho-Oh was revealed (kinda) before Togepi, though. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:15, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
::I remember that Shellos/Gastrodon was originally intended for Ruby/Sapphire, so maybe them? I dunno.... *realises this isn't a forum so shuts up* — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 09:34, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

The trivia states contradictory information right on top of itself:

"* Mew (then spelled ミュー, not ミュウ) was the first Pokémon trademark ever registered (granted on March 31, 1994, registration number 2636685 part 12), before even Pocket Monsters (ポケットモンスター), which was granted on December 26, 1997.
** ミュウ was registered on August 6, 1999, registration number 4302090.
* Mew is also the first Pokémon trademark ever applied for; the application was submitted on May 9, 1990, application number 平2-51989; before even Pocket Monsters, which was submitted September 11, 1995.
** ミュウ was submitted on June 17, 1997, application number 平9-128909."

How do we resolve this? -- '''[[User:evkl|evkl]]''' [[User_talk:evkl|(need to talk?)]] 19:55, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
:Oh gosh... my brain hurts now... we need to find the factual dates and fix it. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 22:28, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
::Just because it was submitted doesn't mean it was granted. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:20, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
:::This keeps coming up (in outside contexts), so I'm going to leave this on the talk page in case anyone looking for more information on the trademark looks here:
:::The 1990 trademark for ミュー belonged to the Yokohama Rubber Company, as the katakana rendering of the Greek letter Mu. Game Freak acquired this trademark in 1999 (after they had already trademarked ミュウ). This page previously mentioned the trademark, but it was removed [[Special:Diff/2929673|in February 2019]] when it was realised that the claim was incorrect. For more information, see [https://twitter.com/helixchamber/status/1063070803531567104 this Helix Chamber tweet], which include screenshots of the trademark filings. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:22, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

== Role Play Mew ==

Recently, an edit of mine adding Role Play Mew as an XD Tutor was removed. This post [http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1753966&postcount=39 here] shows some testing of XD movesets. People did successfully get a Role Play Mew, but not a Trick Mew. I believe it had been discovered a while ago that Serebii had a mistake, but no one ever bothered to tell him I guess. [[User:The Placebo Effect|The Placebo Effect]] 05:24, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
:That isn't an official source. Have you tried teaching Mew with Role Play? According to [[Move tutor#Orre move tutor|this article]], there's no way Mew can learn that move. '''►[[User:Kevzo8|Ҝə]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|υz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|ø8]]''' 06:18, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
::I'm going to have to take Kev's side. Are you sure your source isn't wrong?--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 06:25, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
:::So people testing the game themselves isn't a source? How would I go about proving my side right then? And that article got its source from the same place this one did. So it stands to reason if this one is wrong, than so is this one. (FYI, its usually not a good idea to use a wiki article to prove another is true) [[User:The Placebo Effect|The Placebo Effect]] 06:26, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
::::ill test it myself tomorrow, but in the meantime, leave it my way. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 06:31, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::Protect it or something, deth. So it don't start an edit war. (or continue it as I can see.)--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 06:42, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::Hey now! I respect what he said about testing. I'm not going to edit it again. I'm just going to sit on the sidelines till he proves me right :P. [[User:The Placebo Effect|The Placebo Effect]] 06:49, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Haha, OK. Sorry, I'm not against you. Just making sure.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 06:52, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Any word on this Magnedeth? [[User:The Placebo Effect|The Placebo Effect]] 06:21, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
:sorry. i forgot-ish. i got Mew to learn Trick in XD and Emerald. i havnt got the chance yet to test Role Play. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 06:25, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
::What about now? Its been a few days and no progress has been posted. [[User:The Placebo Effect|The Placebo Effect]] 13:21, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
:::Something something life off Bulbapedia..... — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 08:17, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
::::http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zF-w6UsMQ3E [[User:The Placebo Effect|The Placebo Effect]] 14:50, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

== Starter Glitch ==

I've heard that, in Red and Blue, you can name your starter MEW and it will turn into a Mew.Is this true?--[[User:Frostagin|Frostagin]] 17:30, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
:No, any rumor like that is a lie. You can try it out for yourself, but it will be a waste of time. [[User:Takoto|~~Takoto]] - [[User_talk:Takoto|サソデイ]] 18:11, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
::Yeah, regardless of what your source is, there are no other ways to obtain Mew than events, Faraway Island (=events), My Pokémon Ranch and cheating (including the Mew glitch). '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 18:43, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

==Initial Design==
I was reading up on Mew over on Wikipedia (they sometimes have more real-world information that I consider more interesting than the in-game stuff) and came across some information that I'm not quite sure if I should believe. It's generally believed that Tajiri secretly designed and inserted Mew into the programming, though Wikipedia claims this:

"Unlike other characters in the Pokémon franchise, Mew was not initially conceived by Ken Sugimori, but by Game Freak programmer Shigeki Morimoto. Morimoto programmed Mew into the game secretly, just prior to its release in Japan, intending it to be a Pokémon Game Freak staff members would know about and be able to obtain.[2] However, in the spring of 1996, Game Freak president Satoshi Tajiri used the Japanese manga journal Korokoro Comic as an experimental exhibition of Mew and distributed the first cards for the game as free giveaways,[3] which surprised many at Game Freak, including Morimoto.[2] Due to the success of the experiment on April 15, 1996, Game Freak announced a contest to publicly release Mew to 151 winners.[4] Tajiri described using Mew to create hype around an "invisible character" within the game and to keep interest alive in the title and create rumors and myths about the game passed around by word of mouth,[5] which resulted in increased sales for the game.[6]"

This quotation seems to suggest that a Shigeki Morimoto (who doesn't have an article here) designed Mew in an attempt to have some special secret for the designers, which was then turned into a marketing ploy by Tajiri. Now, if something like this were true I'd be inclined to believe Bulbapedia would have the information for this, yet it doesn't seem to.

The information to confirm or deny this is found on reference [2], yet the page is in Japanese so I cannot read it. All the other citations suggest it was solely Tajiri that planned and implemented Mew. So, can anyone help me with a little research and figure this out? [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 15:59, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

== Trivia? ==

Is it notable that (I'm assuming) Mew can learn the most different attacks of any Pokemon? Obviously, since it can learn every TM and HM, that puts it way ahead of the curve. When I say this, I mean learn via TM/Level up/breeding/tutor, not [[sketch]]. --[[User:Skaisdead|Skaisdead]] 01:56, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
:I think it's already mentioned. But, yea, It is worth noting [[User talk: ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']] 18:01, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

== Images ==

Does anyone know where [http://animazione.myblog.it/images/Pokemon/mewtwo_mew.jpg this image]?
And where does the imagine at the beginning of [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzGwOkGs9kc Gotta Catch 'em All! (song)] come from? --[[User:Abcd|Abcd]] 15:37, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

1) First movie. 2) Made for intro.--'''[[User:Immewnity|''Mew'']] [[User talk:Immewnity|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|Immewnity]]''' was here at 16:56, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

== Name trademarks ==

So... the section implies that the name "ミュウ" came up around 1997. But Red and Green predate that, which makes me wonder.. what spelling does Red and Green use? (maaaybe a screenshot of encountering it in the wild as proof?) Does it use ミュウ, or does it use ミュー? ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 21:08, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
:http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y294/pirika_poron/akamyuu.png
:I guess, after releasing the games, they figured they proooobably should trademark that spelling? *shrug* [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 21:25, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

== My Pokémon Ranch ==

Can the My Pokémon Ranch Mew be shiny? [[User:Jazzmoth|Jazzmoth]] 21:54, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

== Contradiction ==

* Mew was a little-known secret when Pokémon Red and Green Versions were first released in Japan.
Even Nintendo was not initially aware that Shigeki Morimoto had programmed it into the game.
. . .
* Mew (then spelled ミュー, not ミュウ) was the first Pokémon trademark ever registered ...
** ミュウ was registered on August 6, 1999, registration number 4302090.
* Mew is also the first Pokémon trademark ever applied for; ...
** ミュウ was submitted on June 17, 1997, application number 平9-128909.
So, did Nintendo know or not? Do we have a source for them saying they didn't know it was in R/G? - [[User:DanPMK|MK]] ([[User Talk:DanPMK|t]]/[[Special:contributions/DanPMK|c]]) 03:34, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
:Trademarking something and actually using it isn't the same. Some companies trademark something, even if they most likely won't use it, in case they ever decide they want to. And you can trademark something without everybody in your company knowing about it. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 05:10, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
::Yeah, Nintendo trademarked WaterBlue just in case. I bet a bunch of things are trademarked that aren't used. And, did Satoshi Taijiri know about the creation of Mew? {{tt|I sure hope so,|though I can imagine someone programming a joke pokemon, like a two headed psyduck, in for fun, hidden deep within the game code}} it's his game. --[[User:Gen1king|'''GE''']][[User talk:Gen1king|'''N1''']][[Special:Contributions/Gen1king|'''KI''''''NG''']] 12:47, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
:::Wasn't he the one who programmed it in? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:22, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
::::Yes. So he'd know about it. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 02:00, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

== Pokemon Event at Space Centre Houston ==

There was a Pokemon Event that was held at Space Centre Houston around the time of Pokemon Sapphire but I don't remember what it was called, though I do remember one thing. I remember that Mew was available at that event through a number of their own GBAs that had a BUNCH of Pokemon to trade into your own game. --[[User:JessicaSideways|JessicaSideways]] 15:34, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

== Move tutor ==

It says Mew can learn any move tutor move. However, it can't learn {{m|Draco Meteor}}, {{m|Frenzy Plant}}, {{m|Blast Burn}} or {{m|Hydro Cannon}}, exclusive to [[Dragon (type)|Dragon-types]] and the final forms of the [[Grass (type)|Grass-]], [[Fire (type)|Fire-]] and [[Water (type)|Water-type]] [[Starter Pokémon|starters]], respectively. What would be the best way to address this in the article? [[User:Locrian|Locrian]] 07:27, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
:How about: "Mew is notable for its ability to learn every [[TM|Technical Machine]], [[HM|Hidden Machine]] and [[move tutor]] move (except {{m|Draco Meteor}}, {{m|Frenzy Plant}}, {{m|Blast Burn}}, and {{m|Hydro Cannon}}), unique amongst all known Pokémon." --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:11, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
::Okay, I went ahead and changed it. [[User:Locrian|Locrian]] 03:13, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

==Archive?==
This page is getting pretty big. Anyone agree? [[User:Takharii|'''たか''']][[User talk:Takharii|'''はり''']][[Special:Contributions/Takharii|'''い''']] 02:53, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
:Yes. [[User:Cool469|Cool469]] 02:55, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
::We usually wait until it hits 100kb. Still got half way to go. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 03:06, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

== Trivia Wording ==

A few trivia points mention this idea that Mew is the ancestor of all Pokémon as fact, even though the only evidence we have for this is Pokédex entries (which are usually treated somewhat apocryphally). Would it be alright for me to reword some of these trivia entries? For example, something to the effect of, "Mew is classified as a "New Species" Pokémon, despite the fact that Pokédex entries show that it is believed to be the ancestor of all Pokémon and would therefore be one of the '''oldest''' species." [[User:Starscream|Starscream]] 14:52, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
:I think it may also be stated in the journals in the Cinnabar mansion, it is considered the ancestor by most people anyway. [[User:Vuvuzela2010|Vuvuzela2010]] 16:07, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

==A question==
Hey, I got an Aura Sphere mew of the GTS. I don't think he is legit, but he is imported from Hoenn his summary says. He has had pokerus. He is a useful guy, but if he is hacked i don't want him on my team. So I could use some help ----[[User:Desukaan563|Desukaan563's userpage has a Value Formula to measure Pokémon worth]] ''([[User talk:Desukaan563|talk]])'' 16:04, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
:That doesn't have anything to do with the article. However there is {{bmgf|23024|a thread on the forums}} where you can ask. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 18:33, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

== Question for the "In Side Games" Section ==

in the demo of Pokémon Ranger guardian signs you can catch mew. so should it be mentioned in the in side games section?{{unsigned|Muk205}}

:I had my own question too, Mew can be used as a rental pokemon in Gale of Darkness in "Vs. Battle Mode>>Quick Battle>>>Battle VRS CPU>>>>Ultimate", as well as be fought against in a simulated battle on Battle CD 46 in-game. Should this be mentioned at all in some way?... -[[User:Yourlilemogirl|Yourlilemogirl]] 03:26, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
::[[Battle CDs 41-50#Battle CD 46|Really only here]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:41, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

== Voice ==

There's something sort of mistake with Mew's voice in [[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]. Compared to the one in "Pokémon the First Movie" Mew has a different voice in "Lucario and the Mystery of Mew" which came out somewhere in 2006, SSBB was realeasd in 2008, but Mew's voice is the same voice from "Pokémon the First Movie" [[User:Pgj1997|Pgj1997]] 17:20, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

== Not two Mews ==

Never does it say that the Mew in movie 8 is different from the Mew in movie 1. They are one in the same unless you can prove otherwise. Since Mew was the first Pokemon it is unique. We have never seen more than one together and hence we must go with what's given to us and that's Mew is a single Pokemon with no others of it's species. We must change things to reflect this. [[User:Genemaxwell4|Genemaxwell4]] 05:05, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
:It's two ''separate'' until proven otherwise. Yes, nothing says they're different, but nothing too says they're the same. We've never seen more than one of many Pokémon together, like Togetic, but that doesn't mean there's only one of these Pokémon, legendary or otherwise. [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|-tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26-]] 05:12, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Umm no. Mew has been specifically stated to be the 1st Pokemon and one of a kind in several sources. Ergo there is only one. Mewtwo was a clone of Mew. THE MEW. Hence only one exists. Legendary's are supposed to be one of a kind unless later disproven. Mew is ONE UNIQUE Pokemon. More sources and media points to One Mew than two seperate Mews. We need to change all of the Pages Mew is one to unify them. [[User:Genemaxwell4|Genemaxwell4]] 09:21, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

:Games =/= Anime. And these two Mew have completely different voice actors. If they were the same, it's very unlikely they would have switched actors. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 09:52, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Umm correct me if Ima wrong but didn't Ash change voice actors? And since when does the voice acting matter in the characters themselves? And even though Games=anime that doesn't rule out that MORE games point to the same conclusion than the fewer anime canon sources. And your forgetting official handbooks and pokedexes that have been released over the years. All pointing out that Mew is unique. Hence once more there is no real proof that these Mew are different. In fact it's MORE likely they are the same once you see that Movie 8 own plot. Mew is at the tree because it's in danger. That's it. Movie 1 no danger so Mew can move around as it pleases. It makes sense and keeps with MAJORITY canon. [[User:Genemaxwell4|Genemaxwell4]] 11:26, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
:On the voice actor thing: Mew uses its Japanese voice. There was no voice actor change in the original Japanese, because there was no company change. Not only that, but the actor that played the Mew in movie 1 actually worked on Movie 8 - He was Sir Aaron. If they were meant to be the same, he'd have likely voiced Mew in movie 8 as well. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 19:47, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

::A different actor doesn't mean the character is different... it's quite common to switch actors in movies and stuff. Like, there have been several different actors who have played James Bond and several different actors who have played Bruce Wayne, etc., and these are always portraying the same character (in other words, there aren't multiple British agents named "James Bond" with the number 007 or multiple millionaires living in Gotham going by the name "Bruce Wayne"). Yes, I admit that it's odd that a new actor would be used when the old actor who is capable of playing Mew is working on the same movie, but that still doesn't necesarily make them different characters. That being said, I do think that they are separate. The Mew in the eighth movie used Transform -- an attack that the Mew in the first movie was never shown to have. Perhaps this is because Mew had no reason to Transform in the first movie, but I find it more likely that it's because she was unable to... and Transform is learned at a low level so there's no way she could have just learned it between the two movies. I haven't seen enough of the eighth movie to have any more of an opinion on it, but I think that one detail is enough. Also, it is certainly possible that there could be two Mews in the anime... unlike the games, the legendary Pokémon in the anime are not "one of a kind" (well, not all of them anyway). [[User:Dannyjenn|Dannyjenn]] 04:00, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

== Theory on the Origin Of all Pokémon ==

I have been thinking on this for a while. Consider the relationship between Mew and Ditto.
They both have the same coloration, even their Shiny forms. They are the only Pokémon
to learn Transform (Smeargle via Sketch doesn't count).

So: Mew, all alone, creates a gel-like substance and begins to shape Arceus. Arceus creates
the 16 elemental Plates, then Mew combines the gel and the Plates with the assistance of
Arceus, shaping Dialga (Draco Plate, Iron Plate) Palkia (Draco Plate, Splash Plate), and
Giratina (Draco Plate, Spooky Plate). Those 3 shape Time, Space, and Distortion World,
respectively.

Mew lastly finishes making rest of the Pokémon, again with the gel and the Plates. Thus, we
have the universe and beings to inhabit it. The remaining gel turns into Ditto, keeping
the coloring of Mew and its ability to use Transform.

Anyone want to point out the holes in this theory? I know it's not 100% solid, but it
might be considered plausible, albeit the fact that there is almost zero evidence to
support it. [[User:Pkmn Trainer Red|Pkmn Trainer Red]] 02:26, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

:It's plausible, but the simple fact that it's a theory means it has no place on this page. It's similarities to Ditto are already stated in the trivia, otherwise, this is more forum material. --[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] 03:51, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

I guess you're right. Perhaps I should delete it? [[User:Pkmn Trainer Red|Pkmn Trainer Red]] 02:03, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

:Well your not allowed to remove talk page comments technically so, leave it, our discussion may help others in the future somehow. --[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] 11:24, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

== Egg cycles? ==

On the list of [[Egg cycles]] Mew's is listed as 121, but in this article it says 2. Obviously they can't both be right, so could anyone confirm which one is correct? I checked a couple other sites (Veekun and Serebii) but even their numbers don't seem to agree, so what IS the right number? --[[User:ACDragonMaster|ACDragonMaster]] 01:04, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

==Mew to Ditto comparison==
It says that Mew and Ditto are the same colour... this is false. Ditto is Purple. I don't have a Mew in my Pokédex but I'm assuming she's Pink. I'm not editing it in case I read it wrong or something and it means something else, but someone should look into this (either correct it if it's wrong or clarify it because it doesn't make much sense). [[User:Dannyjenn|Dannyjenn]] 23:58, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
:You're correct. According to the Pokédex on White, Ditto is purple, and Mew is pink. --[[User:Funktastic~!|It's Funktastic~!]] 00:14, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

==Mew first being made vs. the trademark==
I know similar things have been pointed out, but there's still a problem here... "''Tsunekaz Ishihara revealed that he created Mew two weeks before game development was finished.''" contradicts "''Mew is also the first Pokémon trademark ever applied for; the application was submitted on May 9, 1990''".

Completion of the game development (implying a working version of the game... not just concepts and ideas) definitely came later than 1990. So how could Mew's trademark have been applied for before he was even created? I am aware that companies sometimes trademark things that they don't plan on using, but trademarking a name means that there had to have been some sort of thought process behind it (like, if I was making an RPG I wouldn't just apply for trademarks willy-nilly on random names that have nothing to do with the game on the off-chance that I'll later create a character fitting the name).

The only way I can see these things as not contradicting each other would be if either one is inaccurate or if you were to interpret "created Mew" as "made the finishing touches on Mew" or "finalized the character" rather than the idea of "creating" Mew (as in, starting with nothing and just coming up with the whole idea 2 weeks before game development was finished). [[User:Dannyjenn|Dannyjenn]] 04:13, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
:Only the trademark was issued in 1990. [[Satoshi Tajiri]] or someone else may have conceived Mew as a [[Capsule Monsters]] design (development on this first began in 1990), but there doesn't seem to be any evidence to prove that (at least no one seems to have access to the other 200+ 'Capumon' sketches). Capsule Monsters was actually quite a different concept to the game that would eventually become Pokémon, as the player was meant to live alongside Pokémon and players would rely on them (for example, they would use {{p|Lapras}} for transport) and they would help each other with tasks, as opposed to training them or collecting them for use in battle. The player was going to fight by himself at one point. (my source are some interviews translated by [http://www.glitterberri.com Glitterberri], but the site is unfortunately down at the moment). Mew could have also been something entirely different at the time.

:Yes, Mew was a "last minute" addition to {{2v2|Red|Green}}. It may have been an early design, but was actually programmed into the game very lately. Unlike {{2v2|Red|Blue}}, there isn't much free space available in Red and Green, because it's only a 512KB cartridge. According to an [http://web.archive.org/web/20101125182143/http://nintendodsi.com/iwata-asks-chapter.jsp?interviewId=6&volumeId=1&chapterId=1 Iwata Asks interview] around the development of {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}, there were some debugging features remaining in the game, so Morimoto removed those features to create 300 bytes of free space, and then placed some data for Mew in there. This may be supported by the [[Pokémon base stats data structure in Generation I#Storage|Pokémon base stats structure]], in which Mew's base stats are stored at offset 0x00425B. The base stats data normally follow on by Pokédex entry at 0x0383DE starting from {{p|Bulbasaur}}, yet Mew's base stats data do not follow on from {{p|Mewtwo}}. They do, however in {{game|Yellow}}. I suspect it's probably the same case in Red and Green, though I haven't checked. I personally believe Mew replaced one of the Missingno. occupying index number 21 (0x15). --[[User:Chickasaurus|Chickasaurus]] 13:26, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
::Chances are Mew was designed well before the time it was put in the game. We already know that Missingno. used to be real Pokémon; Mew was likely one of the deleted 50, then undeleted. Plus, the fact that Mewtwo existed certainly implies it did too. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:43, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

Don't forget that Mew is mentioned in the diaries in Pokemon Mansion. I highly doubt those diaries were programmed into the game at the last minute. Also, Mew had to be the basis of the name and design of Mewtwo, which I also doubt was programmed into the game at the last minute. I suspect the concept for Mew was created already, but not created ''in the game'' until the last minute. [[User:Ritabuuk|Ritabuuk]] ([[User talk:Ritabuuk|talk]]) 00:36, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

Also, this quote is incorrectly attributed. The exact quote from the article, in answer to "What is your favorite Pokemon?" is: "SM: Mew. I created Mew two weeks before we were finished developing the original Pokemon game. I owe a lot to Mew." SM being Shigeki Morimoto. I will correct this. [[User:Ritabuuk|Ritabuuk]] ([[User talk:Ritabuuk|talk]]) 00:36, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

== Reveal? ==

Does anyone remember the date Mew was officially revealed by Nintendo? - [[User:Ericss|Ericss]] 18:40, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
:April 1996, in [[CoroCoro]] as part of the Legendary Pokémon Offer. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:43, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
::I think this information should be included in the article. The specific date would be 15 April 1996, then? - [[User:Ericss|Ericss]] 16:09, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
:::Not sure about the 15 part. It is possible that CoroCoro have changed their release day in the past 16 years. However, I do agree with adding it to the article. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:22, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

== Trivia 2 ==

"Though it comes after Mewtwo in the Pokédex, it has to have been discovered before Mewtwo, due to the fact that Mewtwo is Mew's clone."

it doesn't have to have been discovered SCIENTFICIALLY (what the pokedex is based off, research by proffessors), a lot of the experts were sceptical of its existence thinking it was a mirage.

mewtwo was formed out of a piece of Mew's DNA, some form of feather thing, which means it would of been studied before Mew - Camero56
:It was an eyelash. And If they were to study Mewtwo, they would have had to have studied Mew's DNA first to be able to clone it. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:17, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

== Diet? ==

First, the article says that Mew looks like an animal called a jerboa (which it does), then it says that no terrestrial creature resembles it.I'm confused... NavyTheGlitch 01:06, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

== You can trade Mew in Pokémon Diamond ==
So it says that you can only get a Mew from Pokémon Ranch in Pokemon Diamond and Pearl, this is not entirely true. I got my Mew from Pokémon Ranch, then I cloned it using the Pokémon Ranch clone trick. Then I went and put one of the Mews up for trade on the GTS and was able to trade it for another Pokémon of my choosing. It seems though that I can only trade a Mew to a trainer in Japan. I'm testing now to see if someone can send me a Mew from Japan. I'll fill you all in when it either does or doesn't happen. But, you definitely can trade a Mew to someone in Japan. That I know for sure. --[[User:Bokeatong|Bokeatong]] ([[User talk:Bokeatong|talk]]) 23:33, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

You can trade a Mew in any country it seems. Both GTS and Union Hall. --[[User:Bokeatong|Bokeatong]] ([[User talk:Bokeatong|talk]]) 07:02, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
== Unneeded info ==
As you can see, on where you can find Mew in Generation I, crazox99 has added some unneeded info as he was told not to do so and since I can't remove it, I would like to ask if someone could remove the unneeded info that would make Bulbapedia look bad to the people look at the info on the articles. [[User:KoiFish|KoiFish]] ([[User talk:KoiFish|talk]]) 23:18, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
:That was reverted hours ago. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 23:26, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

== Move tutors ==

"mew can learn ''every'' move tutor move except for these 9." to me that just seems a bit silly [[User:0danmaster0|0danmaster0]] ([[User talk:0danmaster0|talk]]) 19:02, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
:Those nine aren't quite Move Tutor moves in the same way that all the others are. Those nine are exclusive to a very restricted subset of Pokemon, almost like [[signature move]]s (which some of them actually are, though most are not). Saying "all except this special type of Tutor" is briefer and just as informative as the long list you can see by hitting "show". Although I agree, it'd sound nicer if we categorized those nine moves as a distinct subset of Move Tutor moves and just said "Mew can learn every Move Tutor move except {{red link|restricted Move Tutor moves}}" (or whatever we decide to call that subset). [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 19:09, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

== Mew Back Sprite DPPT ==

Mew's back sprite in Pokémon Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum features Mew with yellow/cream circles on the soles of its feet. In HeartGold and SoulSilver, these are purple. Should the alternate back sprite not be provided below at the bottom of the sprite section, as has been done with many other Pokémon with back sprite changes between games in the same generation?--[[User:ShinyPatch|ShinyPatch]] ([[User talk:ShinyPatch|talk]]) 00:22, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

== Google Pokédex ==

Is Mew the only Legendary Pokémon that is part of the April Fools' Day 2014's Google Pokédex, or it's not notable? --[[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ''([[User talk:Cinday123|Talk]])'' 03:09, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

== Black2 White2 Locations? ==

Is there a reason that Black and White have two entries each in the in-game locations sections, yet Black2 and White2 are not entered? I do not have the black 2 or white 2 games, so I do not know where/if they can be found in those games. Could someone please enter those? Unless there is some reason for this that I am missing... [[User:8ulb|8ulb]] ([[User talk:8ulb|talk]]) 15:39, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
:It was a typo. --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 15:58, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

== New 20th Anniversary Artwork ==

Since it is clearly Sugimori artwork, and colored/shaded in the style of Game Artwork, should we make it the new artwork of the page? This would be the precedent for all the other Mythical Pokémon as well, who will presumably get their solo artwork posted as well. Thoughts? (Also, it's the cutest Mew artwork to date.)

--[[User:BlackButterfree|BlackButterfree]] ([[User talk:BlackButterfree|talk]]) 05:50, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
:No. The artwork used in the infobox is always the current main game artwork (except for special dates, as noted at the top of each species talk page when applicable). At this time, the artwork is simply promotional for the 20th Anniversary event, not their main artwork. If the promotional artwork for all of the 20th Anniversary Mythical Pokémon eventually become their official main artwork, only then they will be used as the head image in the infobox. - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] - 19:20, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
::Well, I'm perfectly fine with proposing we discuss the rest of the Mythical Pokémon but I didn't really bring it up since this is just Mew's page.--[[User:BlackButterfree|BlackButterfree]] ([[User talk:BlackButterfree|talk]]) 06:44, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

== Mew only obeys when caught in specific place ==

i have a very dumb question
if im playing pokemon emerald and i change mew from their original island to, say, the starting town, and i catch them, will they still not obey, even if theyre practically the same? does it really need to be in their specific place to be considered 'legit'?
[[User:Mopbop|Mopbop]] ([[User talk:Mopbop|talk]]) 02:09, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
:It needs to be considered a [[fateful encounter]]. That's [[Pokémon data substructures in Generation III#Ribbons and Obedience|a separate flag]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 03:19, 30 September 2016 (UTC)

== Sun and Moon Pokedex entries? ==

Shouldn't there be new Pokedex entries from Sun and Moon? Do we just not have them due to nobody has contributed them? Can't find them elsewhere online either, for Mew or Mewtwo. [[User:Avigor|Avigor]] ([[User talk:Avigor|talk]]) 03:19, 24 December 2016 (UTC)
:They don't have any, just like the island scan Pokemon. [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 03:23, 24 December 2016 (UTC)
::Sun and Moon do not have a National Pokedex, and the [[List of Pokémon by Alola Pokédex number|regional 'dex]] does not include those Pokemon. So they don't have new entries. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:24, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

== Another possibility for the 1990 ミュー trademark ==
Didn't see this mentioned anywhere on this discussion page yet, so I figured I'd bring it up. On the topic of the name trademarks... do we know ''for sure'' if the trademark submitted in 1990 even has anything to do with Pokémon? Like... was the "ミュー" trademark submitted along with other early Pokémon names like the ones seen in some of the early art/beta screenshots, things related to the older "Capsule Monsters" title, or something along those lines?
I ask because there's another Nintendo creature that the "ミュー" trademark could've been for -- there was an enemy named "Myu" in Zelda 2: The Adventure of Link, which released in 1987 in Japan and 1988 in the US. That enemy's name is written as "ミュー" in Japanese according to the Zelda wiki ([https://zeldawiki.org/The_Adventure_of_Link_Translations/Enemies]), just like the 1990 trademark. [[User:FnrrfYgmSchnish|FnrrfYgmSchnish]] ([[User talk:FnrrfYgmSchnish|talk]]) 09:11, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

== Including Mew Game Location for Let's Go Eevee And Pikachu ==

The Pokeball plus comes with Mew on purchase according to the website and I think that's good evidence for the Pokeball plus to be apart of the Game Locations under Lets Go Pikachu And Eevee.

https://pokeballplus.nintendo.com/ {{unsigned|PixelBytes}}
:Game location info gets added after the games are released.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 11:51, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

== Mew's Name Origin ==

In biological sciences worldwide, the Greek letter 'μ' (Mu) is used to represent the genetic mutation rate of a given population of organisms under various conditions.
Wouldn't it make more sense to suggest that Mew's name is derived from μ?

Granted, it's probably not incorrect to suggest that it's a derivative of 'mutant' or 'mutation', as that's no doubt why μ was chosen to represent this particular calcuation, but the connection to μ seems much cleaner and more likely. {{unsigned|Wixenstyx}}
:I kind of like that. It fits in with Mew's theme, and it sounds like its name. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 21:00, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

== Bart ==

This isn't very important important (perhaps trivia), but I'm surprised to see no mention of the unused Mew trade in Yellow Version. [[Pokémon Yellow beta#Unused in-game trades]]. The Mew's English name is Bart, which I'm guessing is a play on the name Bartholomew. [[User:Dannyjenn|D]] ([[User talk:Dannyjenn|talk]]) 13:10, 4 August 2019 (UTC)

== Pokemon Red/Green Pokedex entry ==

Since there were different entries in Red and Green (later used in Fire Red and Leaf Green) I think they also should be written in the Pokedex section.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket]] [[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Grunt]]''' 20:17, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
:Could you post a source and/or what the different dex entries say? --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 02:55, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
::I mean, Japanese Pokemon Red/Green and Japanese Pokemon Blue had different Pokedex entries for all generation 1 Pokemon. English Pokemon Red/Blue took some of them from each Japanese version. The other was later used as Fire Red. I don't have any whole list, but you can see on each Pokemon's page on japanese site [https://wiki.ポケモン.com/wiki/%E3%83%9F%E3%83%A5%E3%82%A6] what entries appeared in which game.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket]] [[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Grunt]]''' 17:40, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
:::Wait, so what English Pokedex information are we missing, in that case? I'm a little confused on what you'd like to add. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 21:15, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
::::Not English. I was thinking about "Blue Jp" or "Red/Green" entry that didn't make it to the English games until generation 3.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket]] [[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Grunt]]''' 22:31, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
:::::We're an English wiki, so only the English dex entries go in the templates. (edit) Also, are you trying to imply that the Gen III dex entries are valid English versions for Japanese Blue and Green? Because that's not how that works...--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:48, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
::::::Yes, we're on English wiki and we always mention stuff that are present in the Japanese version especially when they don't make it to the translation. And to your edit, I don't know how valid you want them to be, I would personally see them written in {{tt|japanese|with English translation}}, but they are literally the same copy-pasted entry as in Fire Red.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket]] [[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Grunt]]''' 12:07, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
:::::::Putting aside the idea of putting Japanese dex entries in the article... how is Mew any different than any other Gen I Pokemon in this sense? --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 18:07, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
::::::::It isn't. I meant it for every Pokemon from generation 1.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket]] [[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Grunt]]''' 21:00, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
:::::::::Just so we're on the same page, what you want is a section for Green/Japanese Blue with the ''English'' dex entries from FR/LG? Because that's how I interpreted your suggestion and that's what I meant by "not valid". Just because FR/LG has English dex entries for those, does not mean Green/Japanese Blue magically have English dex entries, that's not how that works.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:54, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

{| align=center
| style="background-color: #{{Red color}}; color: white; text-align:center; {{roundy|10px}}" width=80px | '''Red (Jp)'''
| style="border: 1px solid #{{Kanto color}}; {{roundy|10px}}" rowspan=2 width=600px | {{tt|みなみアメリカにせいそくするぜつめつしたはずのポケモン。ちのうがたかくなんでもおぼえる。|A Pokémon of South America that was thought to have been extinct. It is very intelligent and learns any move.}}
|-
| style="background-color: #{{Green color}}; color: white; text-align:center; {{roundy|10px}}" width=80px | '''Green'''
|}
::::::::::This is what I mean. I was probably mistaken, all entries from Blue Jp seem to be used in Red/Blue, and the ones from Red/Green didn't appear until FireRed.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket]] [[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Grunt]]''' 18:21, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
:::::::::::In that case, we're an English wiki so only the English entries gets on the template. Yes, we do have Japanese text here and there, but those are case by case, and in this case, I don't see why we need them.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:28, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
::::::::::::Why not? And I hope more people will share their opinion on that.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket]] [[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Grunt]]''' 14:31, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
:::::::::::::If you're still asking me "why not?", then you clearly didn't read my previous response.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 15:59, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
::::::::::::::You said there are cases where we use japanese text sometimes, and you said it is not needed in this case. I am asking why is that? You didn't really answer that.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket]] [[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Grunt]]''' 16:08, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::Because we don't need them. We're an English wiki, so we use the English dex entries.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 16:31, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::But then we're missing information about entries from Red/Green.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket]] [[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Grunt]]''' 16:36, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
{{indent}}I don't really see the difference between including Japanese Pokedex entries and, say, Japanese Gym Leader quotes. Where is the line drawn? --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 00:39, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
:It looks that, in the past, we used to keep Japanese Pokédex entries when new games had been released just in Japanese, not in English yet. For instance, please see [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pikachu_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&oldid=1337701#Pok.C3.A9dex_entries_4 this old 2011 revision of the Pokédex section] from the Pikachu article. It contains this Pokédex text from Pokémon Black and White: "{{tt|よわった　なかまの　ピカチュウに　でんきをながし　ショックをあたえて　げんきを　わけることも　ある。|It occasionally uses an electric shock to recharge a fellow Pikachu that is in a weakened state.}}".
:Team Rocket Grunt seems to be proposing something along these lines, adding Japanese Pokédex entries for Pokémon Red and Green because they don't correspond with English G1 games.
:However, on the other hand, it looks like all the G1 Pokédex entries have been translated either in G1 itself or in FRLG. So, instead of adding Japanese text, maybe we could at least explain the localization changes like this in the Pokémon articles:
:* In the Japanese {{game|Red and Green|s}}, each Pokémon shares the same Pokédex entry. This entry was left untranslated in the localized [[Generation I]] games, until it was reused in [[Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen Versions|Pokémon FireRed]] and localized into other languages.
:* In the Japanese [[Pokémon Blue Version (Japanese)|Pokémon Blue]], a new Pokédex entry was introduced for each Pokémon. This entry was translated for both {{game|Red and Blue|s}}, and also reused in [[Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen Versions|Pokémon LeafGreen]] (sometimes with minor wording changes in the latter).
:* The {{jap|Pokémon Stadium|Japanese Pokémon Stadium}} was not released in English, but it uses the same Pokédex entries as the later game {{eng|Pokémon Stadium}}.
:--[[User:Daniel Carrero|Daniel Carrero]] ([[User talk:Daniel Carrero|talk]]) 02:07, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
::Those can be explained on the Generation I article or the individual game articles. No need to repeat that 151 times.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:37, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
:::Having that written on each Pokemon's page would fix the issue for me, but as ForceFire pointed out, the same exact text would always be better wrote once. How about using later translation and note that it haven't been officially localized?--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket]] [[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Grunt]]''' 10:20, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
::::Assuming the RG Pokédex entries hadn't been recycled and translated, then I'm definitely with Rocket Grunt (add Japanese entries with "fan-made" tooltip translations). (That's basically what that Pikachu was at that point.)
::::But now that they have, we could probably also have [[User:Abcboy#Pokédex entry recycling|this]] somewhere in the mainspace, and call it a day.
::::(Also worth noting that I think Celadonkey has a good point, though it is my understanding that, generally, something/anything is still canon and worth covering even without any localization.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 11:18, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

==Mew's Name Origin==
i think mew name comes from what cats say meow. which is sometimes righted mew ([[User:Helperman|Helperman]] ([[User talk:Helperman|talk]]) 14:34, 16 December 2021 (UTC))
:In fact, [https://www.liberation.fr/apps/2016/06/pokemon/ there's evidence] that that's not the case. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 16:41, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
Basically that says "well they say ''nya'' in Japanese", which is true, but they do know the Anglicism "mew". Mew looks feline enough. If Japanese writers don't know the English onomatopoeia "mew", why is there a manga about a catgirl named "Tokyo Mew Mew"? (''東京ミュウミュウ'')[[User:Lmoamemesxd|Lmoamemesxd]] ([[User talk:Lmoamemesxd|talk]]) 02:22, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

==Mew giving birth==
Maybe it layed an egg? ----[[User:DHP613|'''D'''HP]][[User talk:DHP613|'''6'''13]] 23:34, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

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Lmoamemesxd: Mew is probably, at least in some way, derived from the "mew" of a cat.

==Mew's abilities==

In the first movie, mew used a bubble of pink psychic energy to save Ash. It also utilized this ability several other times throughout the movie. However, this is not stated in the "special abilities" section, alhtough what is stated is that mew can create forcefields. Forcefields and pink bubbles are two different things, this is best shown by the contrast between Mew "forcefield" in pokemon snap (which is also yellow/green) and Mew's Bubble in the first movie. So does anyone mind if I add in the bit about the pink bubbles? {{unsigned|Wikid}}

No, please do so. Add a picture if you feel like it. Just make sure it meets quality standards. [[User:LordArceus|LordArceus]] 23:51, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

== Mew doesn't listen? ==

Mew doesn't listen to its original trainer? Is this true? --[[User:Pluvia|Pluvia]] 20:52, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
:If you hack it in Gen III or IV, yes. Same with Deoxys. --'''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 21:59, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Is this always the case? I've seen a hacked Mew (Gen IV) that (according to the owner) is completely obedient. Could this be because the friendship level is so high, or is it just a fluke? [[User:Featherflame|Featherflame]] 20:51, 8/10/07

Mew and Deoxys are obedient in Gen IV even if they're hacked. [[User:Vereux0|Vereux0]] 20:08, 8/20/07

In Gen III, Mew and Deoxys have an obediance bit. If this is missing, they won't obey. It is possible to hack a Mew or Deoxys and have it obey. To answer the question, it depends on how it's hacked. - [[User:MacGyver|MacGyver]]
:And the obedience bit is automatically turned on when they get transferred over through Pal Park, I believe. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 02:50, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

If a mew that is transfered from a GBA game that was hacked to get it,will it corrupt the D/P game? And will it listen? I'm just asking. [[http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/User:MAXDude17]]
:Hmmm...I just tested this in diamond with an action replay thingy (don't worry i deleted the mew right after) and it works fine. Obeys and everything. -- [[User:Salome|Salome]] 23:38, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

There is no obedient bit in Diamond/Pearl. It was a feature that was intentionally removed. [[User:Sabresite|Sabresite]] 08:18, 24 March 2009 (GMT)

== mew glitch ==

i really dont think that the mew glitch should be in the in-game locations table, seeing as it is not actually a location, and not legitamite...
any thoughts?

[[User:Bill33421|Bill33421]] 19:54, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

:It's still a way to obtain Mew, and it can be done without cheating. --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]][[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Talk]] | [[User:Shiny Noctowl/Fun|Fun]] 20:53, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
::Correction: without a using a cheat device. Most would consider abusing a glitch to be the same as cheating.--[[User:Dual|Dual]] 23:27, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

I agree with that. [[User:Cerberus|Cerberus]] 03:22, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
::But it's kinda... I dunno, it's a glitch. Abusing glitches also means that Missingno shouldn't be here. People visit him on the side of Cinnabar to get 128 (or something~) Rare Candies and Master Balls. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 03:32, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Given the nature of Mew's availability, it's just nice to have something in the table other than "Trade". --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 10:58, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
::::Maybe instead "Nintendo event"? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]][[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 02:12, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::It's worth adding in even if it comes under glitchs or somthing! -- [[User:Awar|Awar]] 14:09, 7 December 2007 (UTC).
::::::Imma add just 'Nintendo event'. Feel free to revert. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 18:16, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::Oh lol. >> It's already have been done. Er... heh. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 18:17, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
~--[[User:Starlight the ampharos|Starlight_the_ampharos]] 13:39, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

=== Later discussion ===
The Mew Glitch is a perfectly legitimate way to capture Mew, considering the fact that [[Shigeki Morimoto]] programmed it in on purpose.
[[User:MasterZ|MasterZ]] ([[User talk:MasterZ|talk]])

:He didn't program in the Mew glitch; he programmed in the Pokemon Mew itself. The glitch is not intrinsically related to Mew itself; it was only named as such because it happened to become famous for being a non-hacking way to obtain Mew. It doesn't belong in the Game Locations section because literally every Generation I Pokemon (and, to my knowledge, every Gen I glitch Pokemon as well) can be obtained via the glitch. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 23:36, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

== I must be insane.... ==

Ok so Arceus tottaly conflicts with with mew but arceus came from an egg. What if mew was the egg and therefor is the ancestor of all pokemon mew just didnt "create" any new pokemon. In fact it was never even mentioned (to my knowlage) that he did. So therefor mew remains to look like a embryo (catching drift egg) and we shall never know~kittenchild
:which came first, the {{tt|Arceus|Chicken}} or the {{tt|Mew|Egg}}? -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 03:02, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Well by my theory and using the myths it states that "...at the heart of chaos where all things became one, appeared an Egg. Having tumbled from the vortex, the Egg gave rise to the original one." This states that the egg came before arceus. {{unsigned|Kittenchild}}

::Arceus was born from the cosmic Egg, but Mew contains the DNA of all Pokémon. It can be assumed that Arceus is the Creator and first Pokémon, but Mew is the common ancestor (assuming Arceus wasn't like Zeus who went spreading his genes all over the landscape).--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 03:21, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

oh and by this theory im not saying arceus didnt create the pokemon universe im saying mew didnt realy "create" anything he just kinda was there... and his Dna is in everything (pokemon of course) {{unsigned|Kittenchild}}
:Mew's Pokadex entry says that it is the ancestor of ALL Pokamon. And Arceus is the fat ass who created EVERYTHING (I then assume this includes <s>Mewtwo</s> Mew too). So, did Mew evolve into Arceus? Or did Arceus create Mew? It's all very confusing. Posted by the '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''08:06 21 May 2008'''''

Arceus created Mew, then Mew created/whatever/evolved(evolved as in Apes into Humans, not Bulbasaur into Ivysaur)/mutated into other Pokémon. Maybe thats how it happened? [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 09:48, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
:But Mew evolved into Arceus. It is the ancestor of ALL Pokémon. Posted by the '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''09:50 21 May 2008'''''
::Hmm...errr...This is getting confusing! If thats true, but my theory is also true at the same time would that mean Arceus ''isn't'' a pokémon?! ...Then again, it's the GOD/Alpha(if i remember rightly), that would mean it would have HAD too have come first. [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 09:53, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
:::Right, so why can it be captured in a Pokéball (FORGET THE RICE BALL INCIDENT!!!) Posted by the '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''09:55 21 May 2008'''''
::::...I know Arceus is a Pokémon i was just saying :\ Look. The way i see it, Arceus came first, created Mew, and Mew became the other Pokémon (not like, the Legendaries). Just because it's the ancestor of all Pokémon doesn't mean it's the ansector of the God Pokémon, i'm sure Mew isn't the ancestor of the Legendaries as it says Arceus created Palkia, Diagla and Giratina and some others (if i remember rightly!). [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 15:32, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

No noo noo. I meant mew hatched arceus (being the egg and all) and therefor because mew "created" (not realy) arceus' gentic meterial then arceus went to create the rest of the pokemon that genetic meterial caried over and mew never realy did squat... {{unsigned|Kittenchild}}

Ok, this is what happened. First come Arceus. He say "I wanna Dialga and Palkia." And he made them. Next he say "Now i want universe." So he made universe. Next he say "I want living things." So he made Mew who laid eggs of Pokémon, and live-birthed humans. They all got up, but they each had no souls. Arceus say "Imma gonna give you souls." So he maid the lake trio who gave them all souls. Arceus fell asleep. Teh end. You can quote me on that. [[User:LordKaien|LordKaien]] 16:18, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
:But Mew's Pokédex entry states that it's the ancestor of ''all'' Pokémon. Here's what I think happened:
#The egg of Arceus is created from the chaos.
#The egg hatches.
#The eggshell, which was made of genetic material, forms into Mew. (This makes Mew the ancestor of Arceus.)
#Arceus creates Dialga and Palkia. (This makes Mew the ancestor of Dialga and Palkia.)
#Arceus creates Uxie, Mesprit, and Azelf. (This makes Mew the ancestor of Uxie, Mesprit, and Azelf.)
#Mew's descendants are all slightly different, and their descendants are slightly more different, and so on, until there are all of the different species of Pokémon. (This makes Mew the ancestor of all other Pokémon.)

--[[User talk:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 00:07, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

:The Pokédex in ''Diamond & Pearl'' doesn't specifically state that Mew may be the ancestor of ''all'' Pokémon. Just that many scientists believe that it's the ancestor of Pokémon... ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:18, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

You have to admit, it may be that Arceus created Mew, then Mew created the rest of the Pokémon. At least, that's what it looks like.[[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 20:00, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

:That's the idea I had as well. Arceus took to slumber after creating reality and Mew created all other Pokémon. Perhaps Arceus created all Legendaries and Mew created the rest. Sinnoh myths only mention Dialga and Palkia and the Lake Trio because most people don't know of the other Legendary Pokémon of the region, and they probably wouldn't know of another region's Legendaries. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 20:12, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
:: It's subjects like this that just make you wish you could get Tajiri to do an interview r something...([[User:Fossilgojira|Fossilgojira]] 21:54, 11 June 2008 (UTC))
Yeah, only a few people in Sinnoh know about other Legendaries living in their own backyard like Cresselia and Heatran. The book in Canalave City apparently refers to Arceus as the "Original One", meaning that Arceus came before Mew.[[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 20:20, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
:: General consensus is all that is indicated by the Pokedex. Arceus is known to have created Palkia and Dialga, who in turn created the universe, while he created Uxie, Mesprit and Azelf, who are credited with the creation of "spirit". This obviously makes them the progenitors of pokemon and humans. It's also worth noting that they all bear a more-than-superficial resemblance to Mew, all being extraordinarily powerful psychic pokemon. Mew, I believe, was their first collaborative creation, combining the essences of Knowledge, Emotion and Willpower into a single entity. It was unstable, so as it laid eggs, they hatched into things that definitely were NOT Mew. That instability diluted acrost generations until pokemon species were all stable (except, of course, Mew). The exemptions to this origin are Arceus, Palkia, Dialga, and the Lake Trio, for obvious reasons; Giratina, likely spontaneously creating itself upon the first death; and Darkrai, created gradually by psychoses, rage, and bad pizza forming nightmares. Shaymin most likely IS Mew-descended as we have no reason to think otherwise. Forgive me for talking so heavily in-universe, and remember all this is prefaced with "I believe...". [[User:SixthFlyingMan|SixthFlyingMan]] 03:26, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
:: Also, Cresselia, she was formed of good dreams rather than nightmares, and not of Mew. [[User:SixthFlyingMan|SixthFlyingMan]] 06:50, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Mew is stated to have all the Pokémon's DNA. A literal understanding makes one believe Arceus' DNA is included, but one must think of the difficulty of obtaining a DNA sample from a Pokémon in another dimension. Mew is a scientific reason for all these little criters while Arceus seems to be a more religiopus explanation (though it never said it created any Pokémon apart from the Sinnoh legends)
--[[User:Outrage DD|Outrage DD]] 23:40, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

::::Which even then, it's unknown if it actually did create it or if people just lied about it and believed their own propaganda (I mean, it's a MYTH. Myths aren't usually true. In fact, it's extremely unlikely that it is true. I mean, did Zeus create lighting? No, he didn't. Did Poseidon and Apollo create the Trojan wall? No they didn't, as they technically don't exist.). A common rule for Mythology is that it's mostly created from a bunch of falsehoods in a futile attempt to explain what had happened in terms of creation (the Bible doesn't count, as there's been archaeological evidence that the events in the Bible happened exactly as it was described.). [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 03:17, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::Er, Zeus just throws lightning...Hephaestus smithies lightning bolts for him. So technically Hephaestus created lightning. And why would Poseidon make a wall for Troy if he supported Greece? And yes, the Bible counts in this...(what evidence is there of the Biblical creation story again?). You have to take that sort of thing with a grain of salt; things happened "exactly as described" is an impossibility. I mean, there's evidence the Trojan War happened, but obviously without gods throwing out divine intervention left and right.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 05:23, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::Not to be a jerk, but only the later Biblical stories are confirmed. As in, the ones where God doesn't make an appearance. Eden's a myth too. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:54, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::I would say “Please don’t turn this into an IRL religion debate”… but it’s too late for that now. Good grief. [[User:IIMarckus|IIMarckus]] 05:57, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
:If two possesses one's DNA, does that mean that two is the ancestor of one? No. For pete's sake, with that logic humans are the ancestors of Gorillas. (Though you have to admit, both species are equally wild). '''[[User:Optimatum|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]] 06:02, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
::Ok, you know what, let's just stop this thing, and anyone who wishes to continue can take it to my talk page (as it was partially my fault that this started). Oh, and BTW, the Politically Incorrect Guide to the Bible and Christianity already confirmed that most of the events (Yes, even the ones where God directly appeared) did already happen, and there was a special in regards to the Moses incident in Egypt. just something that's FYI, as well as my final note in regards to IRL. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 13:28, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
:I don't meen to bring up the topic again but im pretty sure it happens like so
Beginning of universe
Arceus comes into being.
Arceus creates the dragon trio and the lake trio.
Giratina disappears into the Ruined World.
Dialga and Palkia create matter, space, and time.
Azelf, Uxie, and Mesprit create spirit.
Arceus falls into a deep sleep.
Creation of Pokémon world
Groudon is formed from magma, Kyogre is formed by the pressure in the deep sea trenches, Rayquaza is formed by the minerals of the ozone layer.
Groudon brings the land, Kyogre expands the sea.
Mew is born.
Groudon and Kyogre battle, destroying nearly all the Hoenn region.
Rayquaza stopped the battle between Groudon and Kyogre. Both Pokémon were fallen into deep sleep: Kyogre was sealed into the Deep-Sea Seafloor cavern, and Groudon was sealed on the Mystic caves of Mt. Chimney. Red and Blue Orbs were created and guarded in the high peaks of Mt. Pyre to prevent the awakening of Kyogre and Groudon which will start into a battle.
Rayquaza had fallen into a deep sleep and sealed away into the ancient Sky Pillar.
Mt. Coronet is created.
Regigigas moves the continents.
The Sinnoh region is created around Mt. Coronet
Stark Mountain is created, Heatran is formed from lava. --[[Mew (Pokémon)|M]][[User:MyUU|yU]][[User talk:MyUU|U]] 18:50, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

This topic has filled up with wonderful speculation (come on, seriosuly? Arceus's egg becoming Mew?), but it hardly matters because there is no conflict. Please note that NEVER has it ever been said that Mew is the ancestor of Pokémon; in a Dex entry it said that was ''believed'' to be true because it contains every Pokémon's DNA. So, Arceus was first, and it created Mew (I would guess) with all of that DNA. Oh, and Myuu, I applaud your history. It's nice. ;) [[User:LordArceus|LordArceus]] 23:56, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

So... What if Mew was the first one? I mean, Arceus could have made universe, time, space, dimentions, etc. but mew made dialga, palkia, giratina... Also, life was made by mew, earth was made by the weather trio, and the life in it was made by mew, so it is the ancestor of everyone, maybe arceus doesnt have mews dna, as noone in the pokemon world knows about it... so scientist could say that of the 492 pokemon known, mew has dna of every... couldn't it be?- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Kamusioso|Kamusioso]] ([[User talk:Kamusioso|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kamusioso|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''
:OBJECTION. Arceus created two beings! They wished and matter came to being! That is a clear contradiction with the witness's theory! '''[[User:Optimatum|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]] 23:59, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Here`s my opinion: It is possible that Mew was the first pokemon created by Arceus, and therefore has the DNA of all the OTHER pokemon. If it had Arceus` DNA, then scientists in the pokemon world would technically know it exists (please excuse any spelling errors)--[[User:Starlight the ampharos|Starlight_the_ampharos]] 02:27, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
:Even if they did find the DNA strand, they wouldn't be able to identify it. And there are MANY undiscovered Pokémon according to the Proffessors in the games.- ''unsigned comment from {{u|Rocket Admin Hunter Blade}} ([[User talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''

::That's what I meant. They wouldn't know what pokémon the DNA belongs to, but I'm sure they would know it wasn't any officialy discovered pokémon, or at least not one they know of.--[[User:Starlight the ampharos|Starlight_the_ampharos]] 13:39, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Well, we don't know if the PokeDex is right, I mean, Oak doesn't know EVERYTHING. Also, no one ever caught Mew, so we don't know if it has all of the DNA of all of the pokemon. I think Arceus created the universe,and the dragon trio and the lake trio, and Arceus set the chain of events that would create the 'nature' Legendaries, like Groudon coming from magma, ect. But what about Deoxys? Where did Deoxys come from. In the anime it says from outer space. So, that would mean that Palkia would have created Deoxys, and Raquaza. {{unsigned|Shadow lucario}}

:First off, Palkia does NOT represent Outer Space. It represents "Space", as in, wormholes, fabrics (Not clothes fabrics, Science fabrics.), "Space/Time Continuum", etc. Secondly, considering how Arceus is listed to be a Pokemon in the Pokedex, not to mention it's data is easily recorded into the Pokedex as well, most likely researchers DO know about Arceus' existance (not just believing, actually knowing it exists and having samples of it's DNA.). So they didn't capture Mew, big whoop. They identified it in the Pokedex, nonetheless. I still think it's Mew who created Arceus, and until they actually clarify what they meant for starting this debate, we still have to think that Arceus was a genetic descendant of Mew, considering Mew's mentions of containing the DNA of Pokemon (Yes, it technically doesn't say "All" in there, but it doesn't say "Some", "Few", "Many", or any of those restrictive nouns either. Plus, using generalizations (Like just saying Pokemon), regardless of whether it actually says "all" or not, usually implies that it's meaning all. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 22:23, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
::How did we get from the Mew Glitch to this? ... Please, take any discussion about the origin of Pokemon to the Bulbagarden Forums, as we cannot put anything into ''this'' article until an official release from Nintendo, etc. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 22:35, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Good point, but as the pokédex states that "many scientists '''believe''' Mew to be the ancestor of Pokémon" and Arceus that it is told/described in '''mythology''', my point being that Mew is scientific theory and Arceus its just a myth that he created the universe, just like Zeus. - AOS

Okay, forget what I said about Mew only having the DNA of all the other Pokémon. If it was created by Arceus, then it could inherit Arceus' DNA.--[[User:Starlight the ampharos|Starlight the ampharos]] 03:42, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

I didn't read most of everything said, i just thought i'd put in my bits. Mew seems to me like the "Evolution" in pokemon: they're all evolved down from Mew, because he is the embryo. Like, Mew is the Darwin pokemon they've all evolved from (not pokemon evolution, but Darwin evolution). Arceus, on the other hand, is more of a God figure, which contradicts Evolution. So like... i don't see how they fit in the same world, but Pokemon is quite the odd game, haha! But i do think Mew is like, the evolution theory, and Arceus is the God theory. :o [[User:CherryParanoia|CherryParanoia]] 05:30, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

== discovery? ==
who discovered Mew, Team Rocket of Professor Oak? the Official Pokémon Handbook says Oak, but it seems like TR was behind it. [[User:Mooites|Mooites]] 03:23, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
:The Handbooks take a lot of...liberties...I for one don't particularly trust them with this sort of thing.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 06:24, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

::Perhaps it's because Mew has an entry in the Pokédex that they figure that Oak discovered it. If Team Rocket discovered Mew, would anyone else know about it? ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 14:04, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

FireRed and Leafgreen say that some scientists from Cinnabar discovered Mew in South America.[[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]][[User talk:BlueJirachi|WishMaker]] 14:15, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

==TM lists==

Is it really necessary for list every single TM/HM under [[Mew (Pokémon)#By TM/HM|By TM/HM]]? Why not state that Mew can learn any TM/HM available and link them to the [[TM]] and [[HM]] pages? -[[User:Chosen|Chosen of Mana]]

:It's most likely to remain consistant with the other pages... ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 19:44, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

But its a much better idea to do what [[User:Chosen|Chosen of Mana]] said as it wastes much less space [[User:Wikid|Wikid]] 22:29, 29 June 2008 (UTC)[[User:Wikid|Wikid]]
:If that's true, it's a much better idea to combine Caterpie and Metapod's pages with Butterfree's, too, because the first two are USELESS. But we don't. Bulbapedia strives for completeness. Plus, you can just copy/paste Mew's learnset and subtract from it what you need to when adding them to the other Pokémon pages. Plus, think of it this way, you can see the contest stats for all of them, as well as the PP, type, power, damage category, and so on. Can you do that if we were just to put "LOL, EVERYTHING"? Nope.
:Which is... pretty much why I think the move articles need an overhaul. I'll work on that later on. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:14, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

== Disobediance ==

This quote in the '''Game locations''' section...:

''"In [[Generation III]] onward, Mew does not obey when found in the wild by use of a [[cheating]] device."''

...is not true. I've obtained Mew through Action Replay and they obey. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 05:43, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

:I removed the statement. I used the "encounter any Pokémon in the wild" cheat to catch a shiny Mew in Diamond and it obeys just fine. No problems at all. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 19:22, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
::Technically this happens only in Generation III. The same is true for a Deoxys caught with a GameShark or other cheating device, but I've only seen it disobey in Gen. 3. Blazevoir 19:47, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

:::I did come across a Mew in Gen III that didn't listen, but there are other codes out there that allow you to catch a Mew that does obey. And not just the Mew found in Emerald. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 19:56, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Regarding this, please read my comment above, there is no obedience bit in the DS games. All pokemon that needed the bit in GBA, had it when obtained in a legit fashion. [[User:Sabresite|Sabresite]] 08:21, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

== time to hatch ==

Umm...How can Mew have a "time to hatch" when afaik it is impossible to get a Mew egg? [[User:Kidburla|Kidburla]] 23:27, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
:''Every'' Pokémon is given that datum, whether it can come from an egg or not. Presumably so the game doesn't collapse in on itself. We get this stuff by digging around in the game data.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 23:31, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
::Exactly, it's the same thing as empty slot Pokémon like Missingno. They exist because game data must be complete. For example, let's say Mew was never coded as having a 'Time to Hatch.' If someone hacked a Mew egg, the game would just die right then and there because it's drawing on nonexistant data. Games like this can't have nulls, they just freeze. [[User:LordArceus|LordArceus]] 00:00, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

== giving birth ==
I'm not so sure that when the programmers put "mew gave birth" into the diary, that that's what they literally meant. Couldn't it be more of a metaphor for the fact that after all the hard work the scientists went through, they wrote mew gave birth because the scientists were finally able to successfully clone mew? Although it wasn't stated in the games, in the anime it's mentioned that there were others before Mewtwo that didn't survive the cloning process. So maybe it's possible that they meant the cloning was finally a success rather than mew actually giving birth. [[User:InuMimi|InuMimi]] 19:36, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

:That's exactly what I think as well. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 13:40, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

::I don't think Mew 'gave birth' in the literal sense, either. I think by that statement it's implying Mew's ''DNA'' birthed Mewtwo. [[User:Wicked Weavile|Wicked Weavile]] 10:55, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

:::To be honest, when i first read the diary entry in the game, i ''assume'' it meant it as a Metaphor. [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 11:18, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Who knows? Probably there is more than one Mew (which I believe), it wouldn't be the first "legendary" that can be more than one.--[[User talk:AOS|AOS]] 03:10, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

== Mew is catchable ==
My friend told me that you could catch Mew by defeating the Elite Four 12 or maybe 20 times ,and it worked for him, and he doesn't have a hacking device. It didn't work for my other friend, though. I did it and that worked, but I'm not sure if I should put it on the article because I am not sure if there's a 50 percent chance of this or something. Can someone please verify this on his/her FireRed/ LeafGreen Version? -Metagross72
:He's lying. There have been MANY rumors like that, in every Pokémon game, and there always fake. Even if he did find a way to get Mew, beating the Elite Four X-number of times wont get you Mew. [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 05:10, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
::'Many' is a gigantic understatement. OMFGQGB GUYZ!!!! CATCH DEOXYS FROM TEH SPACECENTR!!!11!211! Please spare us the trouble of saying no and just don't believe rumors from [insert friend's or friends' name(s) here]. [[User:LordArceus|LordArceus]] 00:02, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

There is no space center Deoxys in Emerald. And if that's what you're saying, please don't get angry; I just misunderstood. [[User:Palkiajosh|パルキアJosh]] 18:04, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
:He's citing the Deoxys space center rumor as an example of the rumors that fly around. You should be able to tell he's not being serious by the raucous tone and...terrible spelling and use of internet slang in a ridiculous manner. (Note he says "don't listen to rumors ''immediately'' afterward.) And this talk topic has been dead for over a month.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 22:12, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

More like dead since Blue and Red versions. - AOS

== Arceus vs. Mew ==

Please see [[Talk:Arceus (Pokémon)#Arceus vs. Mew]].[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 05:53, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

== Stadium games glitching ==

Isn't it true that if you deposit Mew in a box in either of the Stadium games, it causes some saved data to glitch? I've heard of this happening to other people, and it's even happened to me: When I stuck Mew in an N64 box in Stadium 2, I had to re-do all the cups (but box data was strangely intact). [[User:Blaziken257|Blaziken257]] 22:34, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

== XD Tutor Moves ==
In Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness, there is a special move tutor that teaches only Mew moves. Anyone got a list of those moves for this page? [[User:Gywall|'''Gywall''']]([[User_talk:Gywall|Talk]]) 21:42, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
:Done. [[User:Ht14|ht14]] 21:09, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

== Okay... ==

Who the fluff keeps adding the Mew glitch to the locations, huh? GLITCHES ARE NOT OFFICIAL WAYS OF GETTING THE POKÉMON, OTHERWISE GOLBAT SHOULD BE LISTED AS BEING FOUND ON ROUTE 20 IN RED AND BLUE. But '''''IT'S NOT'''''. Any Pokémon can be found anywhere by screwing with the game, whether with glitches or [[GameShark|otherwise]]. DO NOT list them as legitimate ways of obtaining ''any Pokémon'' from now on. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:14, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
::Don't get mad, mate. Take it easy. - AOS
:...Golbat can be found in route 20? Well, thats a glitch i've never heard off... [[User:Takoto|~~Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 19:19, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
::Right side of Cinnabar Island = Route 20. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:47, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

==Japanese name==
on the page mew (Pokémon) it states that Mew's japanese name is Mew I'm pretty sure it is Myuu but I might be wrong {{unsigned|MyUU}}
:According to our [[List of Japanese Pokémon names]], the name is actually Myū, but the trademarked romaji is Mew, so we're sticking with that. --[[User:Martonimos|((Marton]] [[User talk:Martonimos|imos))]] 23:32, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
::I don't know that much Japanese but I do know that technically it is Myū, but it's trademarked as Mew and it's easier for non-Japanese speakers to understand what it says. [[User:Dialgarules|Dialgarules]] 23:35, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

== Wi-fi Square ==

There is an Easter Egg Mew room in the Wi-fi square. Do you think we should add it, or should that go in the Wi-fi Square article? Or maybe both? [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 22:31, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

REALLY? I wonder if it'll be in the English version... Are you sure it's not a glitch? [[User:Palkiajosh|パルキアJosh]] 18:02, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

== In the trivia........ ==

When it says that Mew was the first ever trademark, does it mean the Mew was the first Pokemon ever to be created in the franchise? --[[User:Kid Sonic|Kid Sonic]] 23:19, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
:Its name was registered first. Doesn't mean it was ''created'' first, but it was submitted for legal protection first.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 23:36, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
::Mew is such a simple name that Nintendo were probably worried that someone else would think of it, so they trademarked it as soon as possible.- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] ([[User talk:Taromon777|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Taromon777|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''

So who was the first Pokemon created as to Togepi of Johto, Kecleon of Hoenn, and Munchlax of Sinnoh? --[[User:Kid Sonic|Kid Sonic]] 05:01, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
:That we'd have to ask them about. I've got no idea of any of their emails, but we could possibly submit this to Pokémon.com's mailbag... Remember that Ho-Oh was revealed (kinda) before Togepi, though. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:15, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
::I remember that Shellos/Gastrodon was originally intended for Ruby/Sapphire, so maybe them? I dunno.... *realises this isn't a forum so shuts up* — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 09:34, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

The trivia states contradictory information right on top of itself:

"* Mew (then spelled ミュー, not ミュウ) was the first Pokémon trademark ever registered (granted on March 31, 1994, registration number 2636685 part 12), before even Pocket Monsters (ポケットモンスター), which was granted on December 26, 1997.
** ミュウ was registered on August 6, 1999, registration number 4302090.
* Mew is also the first Pokémon trademark ever applied for; the application was submitted on May 9, 1990, application number 平2-51989; before even Pocket Monsters, which was submitted September 11, 1995.
** ミュウ was submitted on June 17, 1997, application number 平9-128909."

How do we resolve this? -- '''[[User:evkl|evkl]]''' [[User_talk:evkl|(need to talk?)]] 19:55, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
:Oh gosh... my brain hurts now... we need to find the factual dates and fix it. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 22:28, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
::Just because it was submitted doesn't mean it was granted. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:20, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
:::This keeps coming up (in outside contexts), so I'm going to leave this on the talk page in case anyone looking for more information on the trademark looks here:
:::The 1990 trademark for ミュー belonged to the Yokohama Rubber Company, as the katakana rendering of the Greek letter Mu. Game Freak acquired this trademark in 1999 (after they had already trademarked ミュウ). This page previously mentioned the trademark, but it was removed [[Special:Diff/2929673|in February 2019]] when it was realised that the claim was incorrect. For more information, see [https://twitter.com/helixchamber/status/1063070803531567104 this Helix Chamber tweet], which include screenshots of the trademark filings. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:22, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

== Role Play Mew ==

Recently, an edit of mine adding Role Play Mew as an XD Tutor was removed. This post [http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1753966&postcount=39 here] shows some testing of XD movesets. People did successfully get a Role Play Mew, but not a Trick Mew. I believe it had been discovered a while ago that Serebii had a mistake, but no one ever bothered to tell him I guess. [[User:The Placebo Effect|The Placebo Effect]] 05:24, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
:That isn't an official source. Have you tried teaching Mew with Role Play? According to [[Move tutor#Orre move tutor|this article]], there's no way Mew can learn that move. '''►[[User:Kevzo8|Ҝə]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|υz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|ø8]]''' 06:18, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
::I'm going to have to take Kev's side. Are you sure your source isn't wrong?--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 06:25, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
:::So people testing the game themselves isn't a source? How would I go about proving my side right then? And that article got its source from the same place this one did. So it stands to reason if this one is wrong, than so is this one. (FYI, its usually not a good idea to use a wiki article to prove another is true) [[User:The Placebo Effect|The Placebo Effect]] 06:26, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
::::ill test it myself tomorrow, but in the meantime, leave it my way. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 06:31, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::Protect it or something, deth. So it don't start an edit war. (or continue it as I can see.)--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 06:42, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::Hey now! I respect what he said about testing. I'm not going to edit it again. I'm just going to sit on the sidelines till he proves me right :P. [[User:The Placebo Effect|The Placebo Effect]] 06:49, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Haha, OK. Sorry, I'm not against you. Just making sure.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 06:52, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Any word on this Magnedeth? [[User:The Placebo Effect|The Placebo Effect]] 06:21, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
:sorry. i forgot-ish. i got Mew to learn Trick in XD and Emerald. i havnt got the chance yet to test Role Play. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 06:25, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
::What about now? Its been a few days and no progress has been posted. [[User:The Placebo Effect|The Placebo Effect]] 13:21, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
:::Something something life off Bulbapedia..... — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 08:17, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
::::http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zF-w6UsMQ3E [[User:The Placebo Effect|The Placebo Effect]] 14:50, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

== Starter Glitch ==

I've heard that, in Red and Blue, you can name your starter MEW and it will turn into a Mew.Is this true?--[[User:Frostagin|Frostagin]] 17:30, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
:No, any rumor like that is a lie. You can try it out for yourself, but it will be a waste of time. [[User:Takoto|~~Takoto]] - [[User_talk:Takoto|サソデイ]] 18:11, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
::Yeah, regardless of what your source is, there are no other ways to obtain Mew than events, Faraway Island (=events), My Pokémon Ranch and cheating (including the Mew glitch). '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 18:43, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

==Initial Design==
I was reading up on Mew over on Wikipedia (they sometimes have more real-world information that I consider more interesting than the in-game stuff) and came across some information that I'm not quite sure if I should believe. It's generally believed that Tajiri secretly designed and inserted Mew into the programming, though Wikipedia claims this:

"Unlike other characters in the Pokémon franchise, Mew was not initially conceived by Ken Sugimori, but by Game Freak programmer Shigeki Morimoto. Morimoto programmed Mew into the game secretly, just prior to its release in Japan, intending it to be a Pokémon Game Freak staff members would know about and be able to obtain.[2] However, in the spring of 1996, Game Freak president Satoshi Tajiri used the Japanese manga journal Korokoro Comic as an experimental exhibition of Mew and distributed the first cards for the game as free giveaways,[3] which surprised many at Game Freak, including Morimoto.[2] Due to the success of the experiment on April 15, 1996, Game Freak announced a contest to publicly release Mew to 151 winners.[4] Tajiri described using Mew to create hype around an "invisible character" within the game and to keep interest alive in the title and create rumors and myths about the game passed around by word of mouth,[5] which resulted in increased sales for the game.[6]"

This quotation seems to suggest that a Shigeki Morimoto (who doesn't have an article here) designed Mew in an attempt to have some special secret for the designers, which was then turned into a marketing ploy by Tajiri. Now, if something like this were true I'd be inclined to believe Bulbapedia would have the information for this, yet it doesn't seem to.

The information to confirm or deny this is found on reference [2], yet the page is in Japanese so I cannot read it. All the other citations suggest it was solely Tajiri that planned and implemented Mew. So, can anyone help me with a little research and figure this out? [[User:Redstar|Redstar]] 15:59, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

== Trivia? ==

Is it notable that (I'm assuming) Mew can learn the most different attacks of any Pokemon? Obviously, since it can learn every TM and HM, that puts it way ahead of the curve. When I say this, I mean learn via TM/Level up/breeding/tutor, not [[sketch]]. --[[User:Skaisdead|Skaisdead]] 01:56, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
:I think it's already mentioned. But, yea, It is worth noting [[User talk: ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']] 18:01, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

== Images ==

Does anyone know where [http://animazione.myblog.it/images/Pokemon/mewtwo_mew.jpg this image]?
And where does the imagine at the beginning of [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzGwOkGs9kc Gotta Catch 'em All! (song)] come from? --[[User:Abcd|Abcd]] 15:37, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

1) First movie. 2) Made for intro.--'''[[User:Immewnity|''Mew'']] [[User talk:Immewnity|a.k.a.]] [[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|Immewnity]]''' was here at 16:56, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

== Name trademarks ==

So... the section implies that the name "ミュウ" came up around 1997. But Red and Green predate that, which makes me wonder.. what spelling does Red and Green use? (maaaybe a screenshot of encountering it in the wild as proof?) Does it use ミュウ, or does it use ミュー? ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 21:08, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
:http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y294/pirika_poron/akamyuu.png
:I guess, after releasing the games, they figured they proooobably should trademark that spelling? *shrug* [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 21:25, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

== My Pokémon Ranch ==

Can the My Pokémon Ranch Mew be shiny? [[User:Jazzmoth|Jazzmoth]] 21:54, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

== Contradiction ==

* Mew was a little-known secret when Pokémon Red and Green Versions were first released in Japan.
Even Nintendo was not initially aware that Shigeki Morimoto had programmed it into the game.
. . .
* Mew (then spelled ミュー, not ミュウ) was the first Pokémon trademark ever registered ...
** ミュウ was registered on August 6, 1999, registration number 4302090.
* Mew is also the first Pokémon trademark ever applied for; ...
** ミュウ was submitted on June 17, 1997, application number 平9-128909.
So, did Nintendo know or not? Do we have a source for them saying they didn't know it was in R/G? - [[User:DanPMK|MK]] ([[User Talk:DanPMK|t]]/[[Special:contributions/DanPMK|c]]) 03:34, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
:Trademarking something and actually using it isn't the same. Some companies trademark something, even if they most likely won't use it, in case they ever decide they want to. And you can trademark something without everybody in your company knowing about it. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 05:10, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
::Yeah, Nintendo trademarked WaterBlue just in case. I bet a bunch of things are trademarked that aren't used. And, did Satoshi Taijiri know about the creation of Mew? {{tt|I sure hope so,|though I can imagine someone programming a joke pokemon, like a two headed psyduck, in for fun, hidden deep within the game code}} it's his game. --[[User:Gen1king|'''GE''']][[User talk:Gen1king|'''N1''']][[Special:Contributions/Gen1king|'''KI''''''NG''']] 12:47, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
:::Wasn't he the one who programmed it in? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:22, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
::::Yes. So he'd know about it. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 02:00, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

== Pokemon Event at Space Centre Houston ==

There was a Pokemon Event that was held at Space Centre Houston around the time of Pokemon Sapphire but I don't remember what it was called, though I do remember one thing. I remember that Mew was available at that event through a number of their own GBAs that had a BUNCH of Pokemon to trade into your own game. --[[User:JessicaSideways|JessicaSideways]] 15:34, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

== Move tutor ==

It says Mew can learn any move tutor move. However, it can't learn {{m|Draco Meteor}}, {{m|Frenzy Plant}}, {{m|Blast Burn}} or {{m|Hydro Cannon}}, exclusive to [[Dragon (type)|Dragon-types]] and the final forms of the [[Grass (type)|Grass-]], [[Fire (type)|Fire-]] and [[Water (type)|Water-type]] [[Starter Pokémon|starters]], respectively. What would be the best way to address this in the article? [[User:Locrian|Locrian]] 07:27, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
:How about: "Mew is notable for its ability to learn every [[TM|Technical Machine]], [[HM|Hidden Machine]] and [[move tutor]] move (except {{m|Draco Meteor}}, {{m|Frenzy Plant}}, {{m|Blast Burn}}, and {{m|Hydro Cannon}}), unique amongst all known Pokémon." --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:11, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
::Okay, I went ahead and changed it. [[User:Locrian|Locrian]] 03:13, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

==Archive?==
This page is getting pretty big. Anyone agree? [[User:Takharii|'''たか''']][[User talk:Takharii|'''はり''']][[Special:Contributions/Takharii|'''い''']] 02:53, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
:Yes. [[User:Cool469|Cool469]] 02:55, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
::We usually wait until it hits 100kb. Still got half way to go. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jello]][[User Talk:Jello|talk]] 03:06, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

== Trivia Wording ==

A few trivia points mention this idea that Mew is the ancestor of all Pokémon as fact, even though the only evidence we have for this is Pokédex entries (which are usually treated somewhat apocryphally). Would it be alright for me to reword some of these trivia entries? For example, something to the effect of, "Mew is classified as a "New Species" Pokémon, despite the fact that Pokédex entries show that it is believed to be the ancestor of all Pokémon and would therefore be one of the '''oldest''' species." [[User:Starscream|Starscream]] 14:52, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
:I think it may also be stated in the journals in the Cinnabar mansion, it is considered the ancestor by most people anyway. [[User:Vuvuzela2010|Vuvuzela2010]] 16:07, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

==A question==
Hey, I got an Aura Sphere mew of the GTS. I don't think he is legit, but he is imported from Hoenn his summary says. He has had pokerus. He is a useful guy, but if he is hacked i don't want him on my team. So I could use some help ----[[User:Desukaan563|Desukaan563's userpage has a Value Formula to measure Pokémon worth]] ''([[User talk:Desukaan563|talk]])'' 16:04, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
:That doesn't have anything to do with the article. However there is {{bmgf|23024|a thread on the forums}} where you can ask. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 18:33, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

== Question for the "In Side Games" Section ==

in the demo of Pokémon Ranger guardian signs you can catch mew. so should it be mentioned in the in side games section?{{unsigned|Muk205}}

:I had my own question too, Mew can be used as a rental pokemon in Gale of Darkness in "Vs. Battle Mode>>Quick Battle>>>Battle VRS CPU>>>>Ultimate", as well as be fought against in a simulated battle on Battle CD 46 in-game. Should this be mentioned at all in some way?... -[[User:Yourlilemogirl|Yourlilemogirl]] 03:26, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
::[[Battle CDs 41-50#Battle CD 46|Really only here]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:41, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

== Voice ==

There's something sort of mistake with Mew's voice in [[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]. Compared to the one in "Pokémon the First Movie" Mew has a different voice in "Lucario and the Mystery of Mew" which came out somewhere in 2006, SSBB was realeasd in 2008, but Mew's voice is the same voice from "Pokémon the First Movie" [[User:Pgj1997|Pgj1997]] 17:20, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

== Not two Mews ==

Never does it say that the Mew in movie 8 is different from the Mew in movie 1. They are one in the same unless you can prove otherwise. Since Mew was the first Pokemon it is unique. We have never seen more than one together and hence we must go with what's given to us and that's Mew is a single Pokemon with no others of it's species. We must change things to reflect this. [[User:Genemaxwell4|Genemaxwell4]] 05:05, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
:It's two ''separate'' until proven otherwise. Yes, nothing says they're different, but nothing too says they're the same. We've never seen more than one of many Pokémon together, like Togetic, but that doesn't mean there's only one of these Pokémon, legendary or otherwise. [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|-tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26-]] 05:12, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Umm no. Mew has been specifically stated to be the 1st Pokemon and one of a kind in several sources. Ergo there is only one. Mewtwo was a clone of Mew. THE MEW. Hence only one exists. Legendary's are supposed to be one of a kind unless later disproven. Mew is ONE UNIQUE Pokemon. More sources and media points to One Mew than two seperate Mews. We need to change all of the Pages Mew is one to unify them. [[User:Genemaxwell4|Genemaxwell4]] 09:21, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

:Games =/= Anime. And these two Mew have completely different voice actors. If they were the same, it's very unlikely they would have switched actors. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 09:52, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Umm correct me if Ima wrong but didn't Ash change voice actors? And since when does the voice acting matter in the characters themselves? And even though Games=anime that doesn't rule out that MORE games point to the same conclusion than the fewer anime canon sources. And your forgetting official handbooks and pokedexes that have been released over the years. All pointing out that Mew is unique. Hence once more there is no real proof that these Mew are different. In fact it's MORE likely they are the same once you see that Movie 8 own plot. Mew is at the tree because it's in danger. That's it. Movie 1 no danger so Mew can move around as it pleases. It makes sense and keeps with MAJORITY canon. [[User:Genemaxwell4|Genemaxwell4]] 11:26, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
:On the voice actor thing: Mew uses its Japanese voice. There was no voice actor change in the original Japanese, because there was no company change. Not only that, but the actor that played the Mew in movie 1 actually worked on Movie 8 - He was Sir Aaron. If they were meant to be the same, he'd have likely voiced Mew in movie 8 as well. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 19:47, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

::A different actor doesn't mean the character is different... it's quite common to switch actors in movies and stuff. Like, there have been several different actors who have played James Bond and several different actors who have played Bruce Wayne, etc., and these are always portraying the same character (in other words, there aren't multiple British agents named "James Bond" with the number 007 or multiple millionaires living in Gotham going by the name "Bruce Wayne"). Yes, I admit that it's odd that a new actor would be used when the old actor who is capable of playing Mew is working on the same movie, but that still doesn't necesarily make them different characters. That being said, I do think that they are separate. The Mew in the eighth movie used Transform -- an attack that the Mew in the first movie was never shown to have. Perhaps this is because Mew had no reason to Transform in the first movie, but I find it more likely that it's because she was unable to... and Transform is learned at a low level so there's no way she could have just learned it between the two movies. I haven't seen enough of the eighth movie to have any more of an opinion on it, but I think that one detail is enough. Also, it is certainly possible that there could be two Mews in the anime... unlike the games, the legendary Pokémon in the anime are not "one of a kind" (well, not all of them anyway). [[User:Dannyjenn|Dannyjenn]] 04:00, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

== Theory on the Origin Of all Pokémon ==

I have been thinking on this for a while. Consider the relationship between Mew and Ditto.
They both have the same coloration, even their Shiny forms. They are the only Pokémon
to learn Transform (Smeargle via Sketch doesn't count).

So: Mew, all alone, creates a gel-like substance and begins to shape Arceus. Arceus creates
the 16 elemental Plates, then Mew combines the gel and the Plates with the assistance of
Arceus, shaping Dialga (Draco Plate, Iron Plate) Palkia (Draco Plate, Splash Plate), and
Giratina (Draco Plate, Spooky Plate). Those 3 shape Time, Space, and Distortion World,
respectively.

Mew lastly finishes making rest of the Pokémon, again with the gel and the Plates. Thus, we
have the universe and beings to inhabit it. The remaining gel turns into Ditto, keeping
the coloring of Mew and its ability to use Transform.

Anyone want to point out the holes in this theory? I know it's not 100% solid, but it
might be considered plausible, albeit the fact that there is almost zero evidence to
support it. [[User:Pkmn Trainer Red|Pkmn Trainer Red]] 02:26, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

:It's plausible, but the simple fact that it's a theory means it has no place on this page. It's similarities to Ditto are already stated in the trivia, otherwise, this is more forum material. --[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] 03:51, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

I guess you're right. Perhaps I should delete it? [[User:Pkmn Trainer Red|Pkmn Trainer Red]] 02:03, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

:Well your not allowed to remove talk page comments technically so, leave it, our discussion may help others in the future somehow. --[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] 11:24, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

== Egg cycles? ==

On the list of [[Egg cycles]] Mew's is listed as 121, but in this article it says 2. Obviously they can't both be right, so could anyone confirm which one is correct? I checked a couple other sites (Veekun and Serebii) but even their numbers don't seem to agree, so what IS the right number? --[[User:ACDragonMaster|ACDragonMaster]] 01:04, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

==Mew to Ditto comparison==
It says that Mew and Ditto are the same colour... this is false. Ditto is Purple. I don't have a Mew in my Pokédex but I'm assuming she's Pink. I'm not editing it in case I read it wrong or something and it means something else, but someone should look into this (either correct it if it's wrong or clarify it because it doesn't make much sense). [[User:Dannyjenn|Dannyjenn]] 23:58, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
:You're correct. According to the Pokédex on White, Ditto is purple, and Mew is pink. --[[User:Funktastic~!|It's Funktastic~!]] 00:14, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

==Mew first being made vs. the trademark==
I know similar things have been pointed out, but there's still a problem here... "''Tsunekaz Ishihara revealed that he created Mew two weeks before game development was finished.''" contradicts "''Mew is also the first Pokémon trademark ever applied for; the application was submitted on May 9, 1990''".

Completion of the game development (implying a working version of the game... not just concepts and ideas) definitely came later than 1990. So how could Mew's trademark have been applied for before he was even created? I am aware that companies sometimes trademark things that they don't plan on using, but trademarking a name means that there had to have been some sort of thought process behind it (like, if I was making an RPG I wouldn't just apply for trademarks willy-nilly on random names that have nothing to do with the game on the off-chance that I'll later create a character fitting the name).

The only way I can see these things as not contradicting each other would be if either one is inaccurate or if you were to interpret "created Mew" as "made the finishing touches on Mew" or "finalized the character" rather than the idea of "creating" Mew (as in, starting with nothing and just coming up with the whole idea 2 weeks before game development was finished). [[User:Dannyjenn|Dannyjenn]] 04:13, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
:Only the trademark was issued in 1990. [[Satoshi Tajiri]] or someone else may have conceived Mew as a [[Capsule Monsters]] design (development on this first began in 1990), but there doesn't seem to be any evidence to prove that (at least no one seems to have access to the other 200+ 'Capumon' sketches). Capsule Monsters was actually quite a different concept to the game that would eventually become Pokémon, as the player was meant to live alongside Pokémon and players would rely on them (for example, they would use {{p|Lapras}} for transport) and they would help each other with tasks, as opposed to training them or collecting them for use in battle. The player was going to fight by himself at one point. (my source are some interviews translated by [http://www.glitterberri.com Glitterberri], but the site is unfortunately down at the moment). Mew could have also been something entirely different at the time.

:Yes, Mew was a "last minute" addition to {{2v2|Red|Green}}. It may have been an early design, but was actually programmed into the game very lately. Unlike {{2v2|Red|Blue}}, there isn't much free space available in Red and Green, because it's only a 512KB cartridge. According to an [http://web.archive.org/web/20101125182143/http://nintendodsi.com/iwata-asks-chapter.jsp?interviewId=6&volumeId=1&chapterId=1 Iwata Asks interview] around the development of {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}, there were some debugging features remaining in the game, so Morimoto removed those features to create 300 bytes of free space, and then placed some data for Mew in there. This may be supported by the [[Pokémon base stats data structure in Generation I#Storage|Pokémon base stats structure]], in which Mew's base stats are stored at offset 0x00425B. The base stats data normally follow on by Pokédex entry at 0x0383DE starting from {{p|Bulbasaur}}, yet Mew's base stats data do not follow on from {{p|Mewtwo}}. They do, however in {{game|Yellow}}. I suspect it's probably the same case in Red and Green, though I haven't checked. I personally believe Mew replaced one of the Missingno. occupying index number 21 (0x15). --[[User:Chickasaurus|Chickasaurus]] 13:26, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
::Chances are Mew was designed well before the time it was put in the game. We already know that Missingno. used to be real Pokémon; Mew was likely one of the deleted 50, then undeleted. Plus, the fact that Mewtwo existed certainly implies it did too. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:43, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

Don't forget that Mew is mentioned in the diaries in Pokemon Mansion. I highly doubt those diaries were programmed into the game at the last minute. Also, Mew had to be the basis of the name and design of Mewtwo, which I also doubt was programmed into the game at the last minute. I suspect the concept for Mew was created already, but not created ''in the game'' until the last minute. [[User:Ritabuuk|Ritabuuk]] ([[User talk:Ritabuuk|talk]]) 00:36, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

Also, this quote is incorrectly attributed. The exact quote from the article, in answer to "What is your favorite Pokemon?" is: "SM: Mew. I created Mew two weeks before we were finished developing the original Pokemon game. I owe a lot to Mew." SM being Shigeki Morimoto. I will correct this. [[User:Ritabuuk|Ritabuuk]] ([[User talk:Ritabuuk|talk]]) 00:36, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

== Reveal? ==

Does anyone remember the date Mew was officially revealed by Nintendo? - [[User:Ericss|Ericss]] 18:40, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
:April 1996, in [[CoroCoro]] as part of the Legendary Pokémon Offer. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:43, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
::I think this information should be included in the article. The specific date would be 15 April 1996, then? - [[User:Ericss|Ericss]] 16:09, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
:::Not sure about the 15 part. It is possible that CoroCoro have changed their release day in the past 16 years. However, I do agree with adding it to the article. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:22, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

== Trivia 2 ==

"Though it comes after Mewtwo in the Pokédex, it has to have been discovered before Mewtwo, due to the fact that Mewtwo is Mew's clone."

it doesn't have to have been discovered SCIENTFICIALLY (what the pokedex is based off, research by proffessors), a lot of the experts were sceptical of its existence thinking it was a mirage.

mewtwo was formed out of a piece of Mew's DNA, some form of feather thing, which means it would of been studied before Mew - Camero56
:It was an eyelash. And If they were to study Mewtwo, they would have had to have studied Mew's DNA first to be able to clone it. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:17, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

== Diet? ==

First, the article says that Mew looks like an animal called a jerboa (which it does), then it says that no terrestrial creature resembles it.I'm confused... NavyTheGlitch 01:06, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

== You can trade Mew in Pokémon Diamond ==
So it says that you can only get a Mew from Pokémon Ranch in Pokemon Diamond and Pearl, this is not entirely true. I got my Mew from Pokémon Ranch, then I cloned it using the Pokémon Ranch clone trick. Then I went and put one of the Mews up for trade on the GTS and was able to trade it for another Pokémon of my choosing. It seems though that I can only trade a Mew to a trainer in Japan. I'm testing now to see if someone can send me a Mew from Japan. I'll fill you all in when it either does or doesn't happen. But, you definitely can trade a Mew to someone in Japan. That I know for sure. --[[User:Bokeatong|Bokeatong]] ([[User talk:Bokeatong|talk]]) 23:33, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

You can trade a Mew in any country it seems. Both GTS and Union Hall. --[[User:Bokeatong|Bokeatong]] ([[User talk:Bokeatong|talk]]) 07:02, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
== Unneeded info ==
As you can see, on where you can find Mew in Generation I, crazox99 has added some unneeded info as he was told not to do so and since I can't remove it, I would like to ask if someone could remove the unneeded info that would make Bulbapedia look bad to the people look at the info on the articles. [[User:KoiFish|KoiFish]] ([[User talk:KoiFish|talk]]) 23:18, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
:That was reverted hours ago. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 23:26, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

== Move tutors ==

"mew can learn ''every'' move tutor move except for these 9." to me that just seems a bit silly [[User:0danmaster0|0danmaster0]] ([[User talk:0danmaster0|talk]]) 19:02, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
:Those nine aren't quite Move Tutor moves in the same way that all the others are. Those nine are exclusive to a very restricted subset of Pokemon, almost like [[signature move]]s (which some of them actually are, though most are not). Saying "all except this special type of Tutor" is briefer and just as informative as the long list you can see by hitting "show". Although I agree, it'd sound nicer if we categorized those nine moves as a distinct subset of Move Tutor moves and just said "Mew can learn every Move Tutor move except {{red link|restricted Move Tutor moves}}" (or whatever we decide to call that subset). [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 19:09, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

== Mew Back Sprite DPPT ==

Mew's back sprite in Pokémon Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum features Mew with yellow/cream circles on the soles of its feet. In HeartGold and SoulSilver, these are purple. Should the alternate back sprite not be provided below at the bottom of the sprite section, as has been done with many other Pokémon with back sprite changes between games in the same generation?--[[User:ShinyPatch|ShinyPatch]] ([[User talk:ShinyPatch|talk]]) 00:22, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

== Google Pokédex ==

Is Mew the only Legendary Pokémon that is part of the April Fools' Day 2014's Google Pokédex, or it's not notable? --[[User:Cinday123|Cinday123]] ''([[User talk:Cinday123|Talk]])'' 03:09, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

== Black2 White2 Locations? ==

Is there a reason that Black and White have two entries each in the in-game locations sections, yet Black2 and White2 are not entered? I do not have the black 2 or white 2 games, so I do not know where/if they can be found in those games. Could someone please enter those? Unless there is some reason for this that I am missing... [[User:8ulb|8ulb]] ([[User talk:8ulb|talk]]) 15:39, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
:It was a typo. --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 15:58, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

== New 20th Anniversary Artwork ==

Since it is clearly Sugimori artwork, and colored/shaded in the style of Game Artwork, should we make it the new artwork of the page? This would be the precedent for all the other Mythical Pokémon as well, who will presumably get their solo artwork posted as well. Thoughts? (Also, it's the cutest Mew artwork to date.)

--[[User:BlackButterfree|BlackButterfree]] ([[User talk:BlackButterfree|talk]]) 05:50, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
:No. The artwork used in the infobox is always the current main game artwork (except for special dates, as noted at the top of each species talk page when applicable). At this time, the artwork is simply promotional for the 20th Anniversary event, not their main artwork. If the promotional artwork for all of the 20th Anniversary Mythical Pokémon eventually become their official main artwork, only then they will be used as the head image in the infobox. - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] - 19:20, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
::Well, I'm perfectly fine with proposing we discuss the rest of the Mythical Pokémon but I didn't really bring it up since this is just Mew's page.--[[User:BlackButterfree|BlackButterfree]] ([[User talk:BlackButterfree|talk]]) 06:44, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

== Mew only obeys when caught in specific place ==

i have a very dumb question
if im playing pokemon emerald and i change mew from their original island to, say, the starting town, and i catch them, will they still not obey, even if theyre practically the same? does it really need to be in their specific place to be considered 'legit'?
[[User:Mopbop|Mopbop]] ([[User talk:Mopbop|talk]]) 02:09, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
:It needs to be considered a [[fateful encounter]]. That's [[Pokémon data substructures in Generation III#Ribbons and Obedience|a separate flag]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 03:19, 30 September 2016 (UTC)

== Sun and Moon Pokedex entries? ==

Shouldn't there be new Pokedex entries from Sun and Moon? Do we just not have them due to nobody has contributed them? Can't find them elsewhere online either, for Mew or Mewtwo. [[User:Avigor|Avigor]] ([[User talk:Avigor|talk]]) 03:19, 24 December 2016 (UTC)
:They don't have any, just like the island scan Pokemon. [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 03:23, 24 December 2016 (UTC)
::Sun and Moon do not have a National Pokedex, and the [[List of Pokémon by Alola Pokédex number|regional 'dex]] does not include those Pokemon. So they don't have new entries. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:24, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

== Another possibility for the 1990 ミュー trademark ==
Didn't see this mentioned anywhere on this discussion page yet, so I figured I'd bring it up. On the topic of the name trademarks... do we know ''for sure'' if the trademark submitted in 1990 even has anything to do with Pokémon? Like... was the "ミュー" trademark submitted along with other early Pokémon names like the ones seen in some of the early art/beta screenshots, things related to the older "Capsule Monsters" title, or something along those lines?
I ask because there's another Nintendo creature that the "ミュー" trademark could've been for -- there was an enemy named "Myu" in Zelda 2: The Adventure of Link, which released in 1987 in Japan and 1988 in the US. That enemy's name is written as "ミュー" in Japanese according to the Zelda wiki ([https://zeldawiki.org/The_Adventure_of_Link_Translations/Enemies]), just like the 1990 trademark. [[User:FnrrfYgmSchnish|FnrrfYgmSchnish]] ([[User talk:FnrrfYgmSchnish|talk]]) 09:11, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

== Including Mew Game Location for Let's Go Eevee And Pikachu ==

The Pokeball plus comes with Mew on purchase according to the website and I think that's good evidence for the Pokeball plus to be apart of the Game Locations under Lets Go Pikachu And Eevee.

https://pokeballplus.nintendo.com/ {{unsigned|PixelBytes}}
:Game location info gets added after the games are released.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 11:51, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

== Mew's Name Origin ==

In biological sciences worldwide, the Greek letter 'μ' (Mu) is used to represent the genetic mutation rate of a given population of organisms under various conditions.
Wouldn't it make more sense to suggest that Mew's name is derived from μ?

Granted, it's probably not incorrect to suggest that it's a derivative of 'mutant' or 'mutation', as that's no doubt why μ was chosen to represent this particular calcuation, but the connection to μ seems much cleaner and more likely. {{unsigned|Wixenstyx}}
:I kind of like that. It fits in with Mew's theme, and it sounds like its name. --[[User:Celadonkey|Celadonkey]] 21:00, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

== Bart ==

This isn't very important important (perhaps trivia), but I'm surprised to see no mention of the unused Mew trade in Yellow Version. [[Pokémon Yellow beta#Unused in-game trades]]. The Mew's English name is Bart, which I'm guessing is a play on the name Bartholomew. [[User:Dannyjenn|D]] ([[User talk:Dannyjenn|talk]]) 13:10, 4 August 2019 (UTC)

== Pokemon Red/Green Pokedex entry ==

Since there were different entries in Red and Green (later used in Fire Red and Leaf Green) I think they also should be written in the Pokedex section.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket]] [[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Grunt]]''' 20:17, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
:Could you post a source and/or what the different dex entries say? --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 02:55, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
::I mean, Japanese Pokemon Red/Green and Japanese Pokemon Blue had different Pokedex entries for all generation 1 Pokemon. English Pokemon Red/Blue took some of them from each Japanese version. The other was later used as Fire Red. I don't have any whole list, but you can see on each Pokemon's page on japanese site [https://wiki.ポケモン.com/wiki/%E3%83%9F%E3%83%A5%E3%82%A6] what entries appeared in which game.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket]] [[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Grunt]]''' 17:40, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
:::Wait, so what English Pokedex information are we missing, in that case? I'm a little confused on what you'd like to add. --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 21:15, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
::::Not English. I was thinking about "Blue Jp" or "Red/Green" entry that didn't make it to the English games until generation 3.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket]] [[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Grunt]]''' 22:31, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
:::::We're an English wiki, so only the English dex entries go in the templates. (edit) Also, are you trying to imply that the Gen III dex entries are valid English versions for Japanese Blue and Green? Because that's not how that works...--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:48, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
::::::Yes, we're on English wiki and we always mention stuff that are present in the Japanese version especially when they don't make it to the translation. And to your edit, I don't know how valid you want them to be, I would personally see them written in {{tt|japanese|with English translation}}, but they are literally the same copy-pasted entry as in Fire Red.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket]] [[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Grunt]]''' 12:07, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
:::::::Putting aside the idea of putting Japanese dex entries in the article... how is Mew any different than any other Gen I Pokemon in this sense? --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 18:07, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
::::::::It isn't. I meant it for every Pokemon from generation 1.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket]] [[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Grunt]]''' 21:00, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
:::::::::Just so we're on the same page, what you want is a section for Green/Japanese Blue with the ''English'' dex entries from FR/LG? Because that's how I interpreted your suggestion and that's what I meant by "not valid". Just because FR/LG has English dex entries for those, does not mean Green/Japanese Blue magically have English dex entries, that's not how that works.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:54, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

{| align=center
| style="background-color: #{{Red color}}; color: white; text-align:center; {{roundy|10px}}" width=80px | '''Red (Jp)'''
| style="border: 1px solid #{{Kanto color}}; {{roundy|10px}}" rowspan=2 width=600px | {{tt|みなみアメリカにせいそくするぜつめつしたはずのポケモン。ちのうがたかくなんでもおぼえる。|A Pokémon of South America that was thought to have been extinct. It is very intelligent and learns any move.}}
|-
| style="background-color: #{{Green color}}; color: white; text-align:center; {{roundy|10px}}" width=80px | '''Green'''
|}
::::::::::This is what I mean. I was probably mistaken, all entries from Blue Jp seem to be used in Red/Blue, and the ones from Red/Green didn't appear until FireRed.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket]] [[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Grunt]]''' 18:21, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
:::::::::::In that case, we're an English wiki so only the English entries gets on the template. Yes, we do have Japanese text here and there, but those are case by case, and in this case, I don't see why we need them.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:28, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
::::::::::::Why not? And I hope more people will share their opinion on that.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket]] [[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Grunt]]''' 14:31, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
:::::::::::::If you're still asking me "why not?", then you clearly didn't read my previous response.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 15:59, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
::::::::::::::You said there are cases where we use japanese text sometimes, and you said it is not needed in this case. I am asking why is that? You didn't really answer that.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket]] [[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Grunt]]''' 16:08, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::Because we don't need them. We're an English wiki, so we use the English dex entries.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 16:31, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::But then we're missing information about entries from Red/Green.--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket]] [[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Grunt]]''' 16:36, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
{{indent}}I don't really see the difference between including Japanese Pokedex entries and, say, Japanese Gym Leader quotes. Where is the line drawn? --[[User:Celadonkey|celadonk]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 00:39, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
:It looks that, in the past, we used to keep Japanese Pokédex entries when new games had been released just in Japanese, not in English yet. For instance, please see [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Pikachu_(Pok%C3%A9mon)&oldid=1337701#Pok.C3.A9dex_entries_4 this old 2011 revision of the Pokédex section] from the Pikachu article. It contains this Pokédex text from Pokémon Black and White: "{{tt|よわった　なかまの　ピカチュウに　でんきをながし　ショックをあたえて　げんきを　わけることも　ある。|It occasionally uses an electric shock to recharge a fellow Pikachu that is in a weakened state.}}".
:Team Rocket Grunt seems to be proposing something along these lines, adding Japanese Pokédex entries for Pokémon Red and Green because they don't correspond with English G1 games.
:However, on the other hand, it looks like all the G1 Pokédex entries have been translated either in G1 itself or in FRLG. So, instead of adding Japanese text, maybe we could at least explain the localization changes like this in the Pokémon articles:
:* In the Japanese {{game|Red and Green|s}}, each Pokémon shares the same Pokédex entry. This entry was left untranslated in the localized [[Generation I]] games, until it was reused in [[Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen Versions|Pokémon FireRed]] and localized into other languages.
:* In the Japanese [[Pokémon Blue Version (Japanese)|Pokémon Blue]], a new Pokédex entry was introduced for each Pokémon. This entry was translated for both {{game|Red and Blue|s}}, and also reused in [[Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen Versions|Pokémon LeafGreen]] (sometimes with minor wording changes in the latter).
:* The {{jap|Pokémon Stadium|Japanese Pokémon Stadium}} was not released in English, but it uses the same Pokédex entries as the later game {{eng|Pokémon Stadium}}.
:--[[User:Daniel Carrero|Daniel Carrero]] ([[User talk:Daniel Carrero|talk]]) 02:07, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
::Those can be explained on the Generation I article or the individual game articles. No need to repeat that 151 times.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:37, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
:::Having that written on each Pokemon's page would fix the issue for me, but as ForceFire pointed out, the same exact text would always be better wrote once. How about using later translation and note that it haven't been officially localized?--'''[[User:Team Rocket Grunt|Rocket]] [[User talk:Team Rocket Grunt|Grunt]]''' 10:20, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
::::Assuming the RG Pokédex entries hadn't been recycled and translated, then I'm definitely with Rocket Grunt (add Japanese entries with "fan-made" tooltip translations). (That's basically what that Pikachu was at that point.)
::::But now that they have, we could probably also have [[User:Abcboy#Pokédex entry recycling|this]] somewhere in the mainspace, and call it a day.
::::(Also worth noting that I think Celadonkey has a good point, though it is my understanding that, generally, something/anything is still canon and worth covering even without any localization.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 11:18, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

==Mew's Name Origin==
i think mew name comes from what cats say meow. which is sometimes righted mew ([[User:Helperman|Helperman]] ([[User talk:Helperman|talk]]) 14:34, 16 December 2021 (UTC))
:In fact, [https://www.liberation.fr/apps/2016/06/pokemon/ there's evidence] that that's not the case. [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 16:41, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
Basically that says "well they say ''nya'' in Japanese", which is true, but they do know the Anglicism "mew". Mew looks feline enough. If Japanese writers don't know the English onomatopoeia "mew", why is there a manga about a catgirl named "Tokyo Mew Mew"? (''東京ミュウミュウ'')

==Mew giving birth==
Maybe it layed an egg? ----[[User:DHP613|'''D'''HP]][[User talk:DHP613|'''6'''13]] 23:34, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

Hidden Shopkeeper Village

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'''Hidden Shopkeeper Village''' (Japanese: '''てんしゅのかくれざと''' ''Hidden Village of Shopkeepers'') is a dungeon accessible only in the {{DL|Mystery Dungeon|Demo Dungeons|demo}} of [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky]] sent via DS Download Play. The playable Pokémon are {{p|Meowth}} and {{p|Psyduck}}, with the moves the player and partner know changing every time the dungeon is re-entered. As in every demo dungeon, all Pokémon are male (including the player and partner).

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==Trivia==
*The tileset used in this dungeon is the same one as in first floors of [[Buried Relic]] in Red Rescue Team and Blue Rescue Team. It's also unused in the final version of the game.
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|it=Villaggio Kecleon
|es=Aldea Oculta del Tendero
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Hidden Shopkeeper Village

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'''Hidden Shopkeeper Village''' (Japanese: '''てんしゅのかくれざと''' ''Hidden Village of Shopkeepers'') is a dungeon accessible only in the {{DL|Mystery Dungeon|Demo Dungeons|demo}} of [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky]] sent via DS Download Play. The playable Pokémon are {{p|Meowth}} and {{p|Psyduck}}, with the moves the player and partner know changing every time the dungeon is re-entered. As in every demo dungeon, all Pokémon are male (including the player and partner).

==Pokémon encountered==
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{{mdloc|173|Cleffa|?|?|0}}
{{mdloc|174|Igglybuff|?|?|0}}
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==Trivia==
*The tileset used in this dungeon is the same one as in first floors of [[Buried Relic]] in Red Rescue Team and Blue Rescue Team. It's also unused in the final version of the game.
==In other languages==
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|fr=Village Kecleon
|de=Verstecktes Händlerdorf
|it=Villaggio Kecleon
|es=Aldea Oculta del Tendero
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[[zh:隱藏店主村]]

PM005

2021-09-28T16:56:43Z

Lmoamemesxd: important gag

{{Chapterinfobox |
title_en=Search For The Mirage Pokémon Mew<nowiki>!!</nowiki> |
title_ja=幻のポケモン、ミュウを探せ！！ |
title_ro=Search for the Mirage Pokémon Mew!! |
image=PM005.png|
number=5 |
manga_series=Pokémon Pocket Monsters |
series=[[Pokémon Pocket Monsters]] |
volume=1 |
location=A Water Mill |
prev_chapter=''[[PM004|Obtain the Moon Stone!!]]'' |
next_chapter=''[[PM006|Great Success in the Mountains or the Seas!?]]'' |
chapter=Kanto |
}}

'''Search For The Mirage Pokémon Mew!!'''/'''{{tt|The Hunt for Mew the Phantom Pokémon!!|Chuang Yi}}''' (Japanese: '''幻のポケモン、ミュウを探せ！！''' ''Search for the Mirage Pokémon Mew!!'') is the fifth chapter of the [[Pokémon Pocket Monsters]] manga.

==Plot==
While searching for the Pokémon {{p|Mew}} who had stolen their [[Moon Stone]] in the previous chapter, {{OBP|Red|Pocket Monsters}} and his Pokémon go searching in a forest. Suddenly {{TP|Red|Clefairy}} announces that he has found something and Red rushes to see what he had found, only to find that Clefairy had found a lone berry on the ground, and Red scolds him for misleading him and reminds his Clefairy that they are actually searching for Mew. Some foot prints are then shortly found, and the duo follows it with the belief that they could belong to Mew. They are lead to a shadowy figure that resembles the shape of Mew, but upon closer inspection, find that it is just [[Red's Pikachu (Pocket Monsters)|Pikachu]], defecating. Clefairy decides to give up, complaining how tiresome the search is. Their attentions are then caught as they notice {{OBP|Green|Pocket Monsters}} and his {{TP|Green|Charmander}} run past them, as Charmander exclaims that it saw Mew in the direction they are running to. Grinning to themselves, Red and his Pokémon decide to secretly follow Green.

They all eventually arrive to an abandoned water mill. Green enters inside and closes the door behind him, determined to capture Mew, and doesn't notice as Red follows him inside. They find that the inside of the mill is incredibly dark, so Red takes out a flashlight to help them search, and shortly finds Green. Their discovery both startle the two, leading to a short argument. Just then Pikachu starts to hop around, trying to bring the attentions of both Trainers to something. As Red and Green cannot understand what Pikachu is saying, Clefairy interprets for him and says that Pikachu might have found a secret room underneath the floorboards. When Red lifts the boards, everyone is surprised to find that there is a hidden laboratory underneath the mill filled with computers. Clefairy hops inside, hoping to play video games on them. Suddenly Green gasps in shock as he finds four unknown Pokémon standing just a couple of feet away. Clefairy, having never seen such Pokémon before, wonders where they could have been caught, but Green responds that he believes that these Pokémon had been recently created.

Just then, a strange man who resembles a leopard appears before the group, announcing that he is the creator of these Pokémon and assures everyone that he means no harm. The man is named [[Bill]], and when asked why he had created the Pokémon, he explains that he is experimenting on creating the most powerful Pokémon by combining two together and confirms that is what the computers are for. Red wonders what sort of Pokémon they saw before are, and Bill responds that what they saw are merely plush dolls and not real Pokémon.

Despite informing them that he wishes no harm, Bill then starts to chase Clefairy around the lab, hoping to use him in his next experiment. Suddenly a voice is heard, telling Bill to stop what he is doing, and Mew then appears shortly after. Clefairy is quick to notice the Moon Stone that she is wearing around her neck, and demands that it be returned. After insisting that Bill leave the others alone, Mew then explains to everyone that she and Bill were once humans who were both trying to create the strongest Pokémon ever. However she adds that Bill's experiments were always unsuccessful, and after many failed attempts, had decided to combine a human and an animal together. The couple had decided to experiment on themselves, however by combining themselves with a cat, Mew had turned into the Pokémon Mew while Bill was transformed into a half-man half-leopard. They have been in these forms since and have not found a way to revert back to normal, but Mew believes that if she sets the Moon Stone into one of the computers, it will transform them back. Clefairy doesn't want to give his Moon Stone over, but agrees to let them use it.

Then unexpectedly, Green throws a Poké Ball at Mew, but Bill manages to block it capturing her. Red is shocked that Green would still try to capture her after hearing her story. Clefairy is especially angry at Green's actions, and willingly decides to fight Green's Charmander. He then disappears but returns shortly with a fire trunk and wearing a fire fighter's uniform, threatening to spray Charmander with water. Charmander however just laughs the threat away and then suddenly vanishes in a puff of smoke. When it reappears, everyone is surprised to find that Charmander had managed to skip his first stage of evolution, and had evolved straight into a {{p|Charizard}}. Clefairy is then immediately chased after as Charizard threatens to breath fire on him.

Red wonders how Clefairy could possibly win the battle now, while Bill goes to one of his computers unnoticed, planning to use his technology to make Charizard smaller so that Clefairy can easily defeat it. Once finished, Bill tells Clefairy that he needs to lure Charizard into the capsule in the middle of the lab. Clefairy is unsure of how to do this, but attempts to do so anyway by taunting Charizard and allowing it to chase him. Clefairy then hops into the capsule, followed by Charizard, but he is unable to get out in time as Bill's machines shrinks both Pokémon down to a tiny size. This causes both Red and Pikachu to laugh and Green decides to give up on capturing Mew for the time being.

Now safe from Green, Red permits Mew and Bill to use the Moon Stone so they can return to normal. With the power of the Moon Stone and technology combined, Mew is then turned back into a beautiful woman, while Bill unexpectedly turns into a large and ugly man. Terrified at the sight of him and believing him to be a hideous monster, Red and Green both run away from the lab with their Pokémon.

==Major events==
* {{p|Mew}} and [[Bill]] turn back into humans.

===Debuts===
====Humans====
* [[Bill]]

====Pokémon debuts====

==Characters==
===Humans===
* {{OBP|Red|Pocket Monsters}}
* {{OBP|Green|Pocket Monsters}}
* [[Bill]]

===Pokémon===
* {{p|Mew}}
* {{p|Pikachu}} ([[Red's Pikachu (Pocket Monsters)|Red's]])
* {{p|Clefairy}} ({{OP|Red|Clefairy}})
* {{p|Charmander}} ({{OP|Green|Charmander}})

==Trivia==

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{{Project Manga notice}}
[[Category:Pokémon Pocket Monsters chapters|005]]

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Pokémon food

2021-09-28T16:55:33Z

Lmoamemesxd: grammatical fixes

{{search|food that Pokémon consume|Pokémon food products in the real world, see [[Pokémon food products]]. For food in the [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon series|Mystery Dungeon series]]|Food (Mystery Dungeon)}}
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[[File:Brock Pokémon food.png|thumb|220px|Brock holding a bowl of Pokémon food]]
'''Pokémon food''' is a broad term used for almost any food a {{OBP|Pokémon|species}} eats. Despite the variety of both Pokémon and Pokémon food, nearly every Pokémon will eat any kind of Pokémon food. This may mean that the majority of Pokémon are {{wp|Omnivore|omnivorous}}. Several species are even capable of consuming things not normally viewed as edible from a human perspective, such as minerals, electrical energy or even abstract concepts such as dreams and emotions. Some species have been said to eat other Pokémon, or be eaten by Pokémon and humans alike, forming a {{wp|food chain}}.

==In the games==
===In the core series===
====Bait====
Introduced in the [[Generation I]] games and used in [[Safari Zone]]s, this food will make a [[wild Pokémon]] less likely to run away but more difficult to [[Caught Pokémon|catch]]. An unlimited supply of Bait is provided for use in the Safari Zone.

====Drinks====
{{main|Drink}}
Introduced in the [[Generation I]] games, drinks can be bought from vending machines and can be used to heal Pokémon in much the same way that [[Potion]]s can at a fraction of the price.

====Berries====
{{main|Berry}}
Introduced in the [[Generation II]] games, Berries are a type of item which, unlike [[Potion]]s or [[Vitamin]]s, are portrayed as food rather than {{wp|Medication|medicine}}. A Pokémon may hold this item and, if needed, eat it during a {{pkmn|battle}} to heal itself or cause other effects. In Generation III onwards, these can be planted and harvested by the {{player}}. These Berries have names and designs based on real fruits and vegetables.

====Pokéblock====
{{main|Pokéblock}}
Featured in the Hoenn-based [[Generation III]] games and their [[remake]]s, Pokéblocks are a type of candy which are blended from Berries and given to a Pokémon to raise its condition in several areas. The flavor, level, and [[Smoothness|feel]] of the Pokéblock is determined by the ingredients which compose it and how well it is blended.

A Pokémon can only eat a certain number of Pokéblocks before it is full and cannot eat any more. A Pokéblock with lower feel will fill up the Pokémon less than one with greater feel.

In {{3v2|Ruby|Sapphire|Emerald}}, Pokéblocks can also be put on a feeder in the {{safari|Hoenn}} to lure [[wild Pokémon]] out. After being there for a while, however, the Pokéblock will eventually be eaten. It can also be used in encounters in the Safari Zone in the same manner as bait.

====Poffin====
{{main|Poffin}}
[[File:Poffin anime.png|thumb|220px|Poffins in the anime]]
Featured in the Sinnoh-based [[Generation IV]] games, Poffins are similar to Pokéblocks. A Poffin will raise the condition of a Pokémon in at least one of five categories: Smart, Cute, Tough, Beauty, and Cool. The flavor and [[smoothness]] of a Poffin is still taken into account just as in a Pokéblock. The main difference is that Poffins are pastries and Pokéblocks are candy. In the anime, {{an|Dawn}} often bakes Poffins for {{cat|Dawn's Pokémon|her Pokémon}}.

====Honey====
{{main|Honey}}
Featured in [[Generation IV]], Honey can be slathered onto a [[Honey Tree]] to attract wild Pokémon. It can be placed in a specific location and will disappear (presumably eaten) after some time, and a Pokémon may be found on that tree if checked soon enough. If used in [[tall grass]], it has the same effect as the move {{m|Sweet Scent}}. In the anime, {{an|Barry}} used this method to catch his {{p|Heracross}}.

====Aprijuice====
{{main|Apriblender}}
Apricorns were introduced in [[Generation II]], where their sole use was to create custom [[Poké Ball]]s. In the remakes of the Generation II games, {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}, Apricorns can be blended into drinks called Aprijuice. These drinks will raise a Pokémon's [[Pokéathlon]] stats: Speed, Power, Skill, Stamina, and Jump.

====Poké Puffs====
[[File:Poké Puffs anime 2.png|thumb|220px|Poké Puffs in the anime]]
{{main|Poké Puff}}
Featured in [[Generation VI]], Poké Puffs are small cake-like confections that can be fed to Pokémon to increase their Affection. Poké Puffs are obtained by beating {{DL|Pokémon-Amie|minigames}} or received from visiting Pokémon. They come in the following flavors: Citrus, Mocha, Spice, Mint, and Sweet. In the anime, {{an|Serena}} often bakes Poké Puffs for the group's Pokémon.

====Poké Beans====
{{main|Poké Bean}}
Featured in [[Generation VII]], Poké Beans are similar to Poké Puffs in that they are used to increase a Pokémon's Affection. They can be collected on {{DL|Poké Pelago|Isle Abeens}} and they are also obtained along with the first drink the player orders daily at [[Pokémon Center Café]]s. They come in three different types: Plain, Patterned, and Rainbow.

====Curry====
{{main|Curry}}
While having appearing throughout the {{pkmn|anime}} and {{pkmn|manga}}, curry appears as a main feature in [[Generation VIII]]. Curries can be cooked in a player's [[Pokémon Camp]], and the meal is then shared between the player and their Pokémon. Various types of curries are possible depending on the berries and other ingredients used.

====Other items====
A few items that appear to be made for human consumption are supposed to be given to Pokémon to heal them. These items are normally found or sold in certain locations and are considered specialties of those places. These items include the [[Rage Candy Bar]] of the [[Lake of Rage]], the [[Lava Cookie]] of [[Lavaridge Town]], the [[Old Gateau]] of the [[Old Chateau]], the [[Casteliacone]] of [[Castelia City]], the [[Lumiose Galette]] of [[Lumiose City]],the [[Shalour Sable]] of [[Shalour City]], and the [[Alola]] region's [[Big Malasada]].

===In the spin-off games===
====Pokémon Mystery Dungeon series====
{{main|Food (Mystery Dungeon)}}
There are a variety of different kinds of Pokémon food in the [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon series]], such as Apples, [[Gummi]]s, {{Berries}}, and [[Seed]]s. The effect of Gummis vary depending on the type of the Pokémon and have an effect on the consumer's [[IQ]], while Apples only fill up the {{DL|Statistic|belly}}. Berries cause many effects, such as restoring HP and removing [[status condition]]s. Seeds often cause special status ailments. All food have an effect on the belly and can be turned into drinks at [[Spinda's Café]].

[[File:MeowthEatApple.png|frame|200px|{{p|Meowth}} eating Pokémon food in the form of an apple]]

====Apple====
In [[Pokémon Snap]], one of the few [[item]]s provided is Pokémon food in the form of an apple. These are unlimited, and the {{player}} can throw them to the [[wild Pokémon]]. Many Pokémon will happily eat the food, and it can be used to lure them to a new spot since they may walk to where the food was thrown. A well-aimed throw may also hit the Pokémon, causing them to {{DL|Status condition|flinch}}, [[fainting|faint]], or become upset.

[[Professor Oak]] will provide the player with Pokémon food once the player obtains a total score of 14,000 points in the [[Pokémon Report]].

In [[New Pokémon Snap]], Pokémon can interact with [[Fluffruit]], an apple-shaped fruit from the [[Lental]] region.

====Poké Snacks====
{{main|Poké Snack}}
Poké Snacks are used in [[Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness]] to lure [[wild Pokémon]] to [[Poké Spot]]s. They look like slices of a yellow cake, with each slice being one-tenth of the cake. Up to ten can be placed at each Poké Spot.

The [[P★DA]] monitors the Poké Snacks at each Poké Spot, and will inform the player how many are at each Poké Spot and when a wild Pokémon is eating them. If the player doesn't return to the Poké Spot quickly, the wild Pokémon may have eaten all the Poké Snacks he had there.

Sometimes a {{p|Munchlax}} will appear at a Poké Spot. When this happens, its {{pkmn|Trainer}} will arrive, apologize, and give ten new Poké Snacks for any the Munchlax may have eaten. Other times, a {{p|Bonsly}} will appear, running away unless the player approaches it slowly. If it runs away, it will be seen at a different Poké Spot.

====Sushi====
In {{Eng|Pokémon Stadium}}, a mini-game called "Sushi-Go-Round" features several {{p|Lickitung}} competing in a race against the clock to eat the most pieces of sushi. Some pieces are too spicy for the Lickitung, causing them to momentarily spin around in anguish, stalling them for time.

====Other food====
In [[Hey You, Pikachu!]] there are many more different kinds of food than in other Pokémon games. There are foods such as {{wp|cupcake}}s, {{wp|acorn}}s, {{wp|mushroom}}s, {{wp|corn}} (which turns into {{wp|popcorn}} if shocked by Pikachu), {{wp|carrot}}s, {{wp|onion}}s, {{wp|herbs}}, {{wp|radish}}es, {{wp|apple}}s, and {{wp|banana}}s. Other things are edible even though they are not typically eaten as food, such as {{wp|flowers}} and other {{wp|plants}}.

In [[PokéPark Wii: Pikachu's Adventure]], Berries are often the common food source for Pokémon as well as their form of currency. A number of Pokémon can be befriended by offering them a large Berry. Iron ores are also considered a food source for the {{p|Aron}} in the game.

==In the anime==
[[File:Pokémon food anime SM.png|thumb|280px|left|{{AP|Pikachu}} and his friends eating Pokémon food]]
[[File:Slowking eating.png|thumb|220px|A {{p|Slowking}} drinking milk from a {{wp|coconut}}]]
Pokémon food has appeared in the {{pkmn|anime}} as early as ''[[EP006|Clefairy and the Moon Stone]]'', where it took on the appearance of some sort of kibble. It is available for purchase in cans, as seen briefly in ''[[DP053|Tears For Fears!]]''. Several [[Pokémon Trainer]]s will make their own, especially {{tc|Pokémon Breeder}}s like {{an|Brock}}. It is shown to be suitable for [[human]] consumption, but the flavor is not always agreeable with humans, as shown by the fact that [[Seymour]] was able to eat it without any problem, but {{Ash}} tried some and reacted badly. Pokémon food tastes great to Pokémon, however.

Brock often offers his homemade Pokémon food to try to gain a Pokémon's trust if it seems to be unfriendly or scared, such as a baby {{p|Stantler}} in ''[[EP125|Little Big Horn]]'', and a {{TP|Brock|Mudkip}} in ''[[AG025|A Mudkip Mission]]'' which he caught after befriending. Most Pokémon are extremely fond of the food he makes, with the exception of a {{p|Jigglypuff}} in ''[[AG138|Rough, Tough Jigglypuff]]'' which outright refused it (although it's possible it realized it was a trap and refused to take the bait).

Pokémon are also known to consume food that is meant for people, such as [[rice ball]]s. In fact, some Pokémon, such as [[Madame Muchmoney's Snubbull]], loved to eat these more than anything else. As shown by {{OBP|Lucario|M08}}, [[Ash's Taillow]] and {{AP|Lapras}}, and {{MTR}}, Pokémon are also able to eat chocolate without any ill effects.

Some Pokémon also eat food which would not be eaten by humans, such as {{p|Aron}} and {{p|Lairon}}, who were shown eating the remains of the [[Megarig]] in the credits of ''[[M11|Giratina and the Sky Warrior]]''.

==In the manga==
===Pokémon Newspaper Strip===
In {{strip|38}}, {{Ash}} asked if Pikachu wants to eat moist or dry "Poké Chow".

==Pokémon eating other Pokémon==
In the {{pkmn|games}}, [[Pokédex]] entries for many Pokémon often describe predator-prey relationships with other Pokémon.

=== Known predatory relation ===
Although many Pokémon species are confirmed to be either predator or prey to other species, there are few confirmed relations.

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| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|277|Swellow}}</div>{{pcolor|Swellow}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|265|Wurmple}}</div>{{pcolor|Wurmple}}
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|278|Wingull}}</div>{{pcolor|Wingull}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|456|Finneon}}</div>{{pcolor|Finneon}}
|-
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|278|Wingull}}</div>{{pcolor|Wingull}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|746|Wishiwashi}}</div>{{pcolor|Wishiwashi}}
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|279|Pelipper}}</div>{{pcolor|Pelipper}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|370|Luvdisc}}</div>{{pcolor|Luvdisc}}
|-
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|279|Pelipper}}</div>{{pcolor|Pelipper}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|746|Wishiwashi}}</div>{{pcolor|Wishiwashi}}
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|279|Pelipper}}</div>{{pcolor|Pelipper}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|771|Pyukumuku}}</div>{{pcolor|Pyukumuku}}
|-
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|302|Sableye}}</div>{{pcolor|Sableye}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|703|Carbink}}</div>{{pcolor|Carbink}}
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|319|Sharpedo}}</div>{{pcolor|Sharpedo}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|007|Squirtle}}</div>{{pcolor|Squirtle}}
|-
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|319|Sharpedo}}</div>{{pcolor|Sharpedo}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|320|Wailmer}}</div>{{pcolor|Wailmer}}
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|320|Wailmer}}</div>{{pcolor|Wailmer}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|746|Wishiwashi}}</div>{{pcolor|Wishiwashi}}
|-
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|321|Wailord}}</div>{{pcolor|Wailord}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|746|Wishiwashi}}</div>{{pcolor|Wishiwashi}}
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|362|Glalie}}</div>{{pcolor|Glalie}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|582|Vanillite}}</div>{{pcolor|Vanillite}}
|-
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|375|Metang}}</div>{{pcolor|Metang}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|299|Nosepass}}</div>{{pcolor|Nosepass}}
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|384|Rayquaza}}</div>{{pcolor|Rayquaza}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|774|Minior}}</div>{{pcolor|Minior}}
|-
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|396|Starly}}</div>{{pcolor|Starly}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|265|Wurmple}}</div>{{pcolor|Wurmple}}
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|396|Starly}}</div>{{pcolor|Starly}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|420|Cherubi}}</div>{{pcolor|Cherubi}}
|-
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|426|Drifblim}}</div>{{pcolor|Drifblim}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|366|Clamperl}}</div>{{pcolor|Clamperl}}
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|457|Lumineon}}</div>{{pcolor|Lumineon}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|120|Staryu}}</div>{{pcolor|Staryu}}
|-
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|457|Lumineon}}</div>{{pcolor|Lumineon}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|121|Starmie}}</div>{{pcolor|Starmie}}
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|461|Weavile}}</div>{{pcolor|Weavile}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|027A|Sandshrew}}</div>{{pcolor|Sandshrew}}
|-
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|461|Weavile}}</div>{{pcolor|Weavile}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|037A|Vulpix}}</div>{{pcolor|Vulpix}}
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|461|Weavile}}</div>{{pcolor|Weavile}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|473|Mamoswine}}</div>{{pcolor|Mamoswine}}
|-
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|545|Scolipede}}</div>{{pcolor|Scolipede}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|851|Centiskorch}}</div>{{pcolor|Centiskorch}}
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|551|Sandile}}</div>{{pcolor|Sandile}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|328|Trapinch}}</div>{{pcolor|Trapinch}}
|-
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|554G|Darumaka}}</div>{{pcolor|Darumaka}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|459|Snover}}</div>{{pcolor|Snover}}
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|565|Carracosta}}</div>{{pcolor|Carracosta}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|138|Omanyte}}</div>{{pcolor|Omanyte}}
|-
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|565|Carracosta}}</div>{{pcolor|Carracosta}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|139|Omastar}}</div>{{pcolor|Omastar}}
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|567|Archeops}}</div>{{pcolor|Archeops}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|138|Omanyte}}</div>{{pcolor|Omanyte}}
|-
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|588|Karrablast}}</div>{{pcolor|Karrablast}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|616|Shelmet}}</div>{{pcolor|Shelmet}}
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|592|Frillish}}</div>{{pcolor|Frillish}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|129|Magikarp}}</div>{{pcolor|Magikarp}}
|-
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|606|Beheeyem}}</div>{{pcolor|Beheeyem}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|832|Dubwool}}</div>{{pcolor|Dubwool}}
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|621|Druddigon}}</div>{{pcolor|Druddigon}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|050|Diglett}}</div>{{pcolor|Diglett}}
|-
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|621|Druddigon}}</div>{{pcolor|Druddigon}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|051|Dugtrio}}</div>{{pcolor|Dugtrio}}
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|621|Druddigon}}</div>{{pcolor|Druddigon}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|095|Onix}}</div>{{pcolor|Onix}}
|-
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|621|Druddigon}}</div>{{pcolor|Druddigon}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|530|Excadrill}}</div>{{pcolor|Excadrill}}
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|627|Rufflet}}</div>{{pcolor|Rufflet}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|090|Shellder}}</div>{{pcolor|Shellder}}
|-
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|630|Mandibuzz}}</div>{{pcolor|Mandibuzz}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|104|Cubone}}</div>{{pcolor|Cubone}}
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|631|Heatmor}}</div>{{pcolor|Heatmor}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|632|Durant}}</div>{{pcolor|Durant}}
|-
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|663|Talonflame}}</div>{{pcolor|Talonflame}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|278|Wingull}}</div>{{pcolor|Wingull}}
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|663|Talonflame}}</div>{{pcolor|Talonflame}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|731|Pikipek}}</div>{{pcolor|Pikipek}}
|-
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|731|Pikipek}}</div>{{pcolor|Pikipek}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|011|Metapod}}</div>{{pcolor|Metapod}}
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|733|Toucannon}}</div>{{pcolor|Toucannon}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|761|Bounsweet}}</div>{{pcolor|Bounsweet}}
|-
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|735|Gumshoos}}</div>{{pcolor|Gumshoos}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|019A|Rattata}}</div>{{pcolor|Rattata}}
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|735|Gumshoos}}</div>{{pcolor|Gumshoos}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|020A|Raticate}}</div>{{pcolor|Raticate}}
|-
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|739|Crabrawler}}</div>{{pcolor|Crabrawler}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|102|Exeggcute}}</div>{{pcolor|Exeggcute}}
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|747|Mareanie}}</div>{{pcolor|Mareanie}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|222|Corsola}}</div>{{pcolor|Corsola}}
|-
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|748|Toxapex}}</div>{{pcolor|Toxapex}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|222|Corsola}}</div>{{pcolor|Corsola}}
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|757|Salandit}}</div>{{pcolor|Salandit}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|327|Spinda}}</div>{{pcolor|Spinda}}
|-
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|768|Golisopod}}</div>{{pcolor|Golisopod}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|853|Grapploct}}</div>{{pcolor|Grapploct}}
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|779|Bruxish}}</div>{{pcolor|Bruxish}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|090|Shellder}}</div>{{pcolor|Shellder}}
|-
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|779|Bruxish}}</div>{{pcolor|Bruxish}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|747|Mareanie}}</div>{{pcolor|Mareanie}}
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|781|Dhelmise}}</div>{{pcolor|Dhelmise}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|320|Wailmer}}</div>{{pcolor|Wailmer}}
|-
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|781|Dhelmise}}</div>{{pcolor|Dhelmise}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|321|Wailord}}</div>{{pcolor|Wailord}}
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|822|Corvisquire}}</div>{{pcolor|Corvisquire}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|762|Steenee}}</div>{{pcolor|Steenee}}
|-
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|823|Corviknight}}</div>{{pcolor|Corviknight}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|659|Bunnelby}}</div>{{pcolor|Bunnelby}}
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|844|Sanaconda}}</div>{{pcolor|Sandaconda}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|632|Durant}}</div>{{pcolor|Durant}}
|-
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|845|Cramorant}}</div>{{pcolor|Cramorant}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|846|Arrokuda}}</div>{{pcolor|Arrokuda}}
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|851|Centiskorch}}</div>{{pcolor|Centiskorch}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|545|Scolipede}}</div>{{pcolor|Scolipede}}
|-
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|853|Grapploct}}</div>{{pcolor|Grapploct}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|768|Golisopod}}</div>{{pcolor|Golisopod}}
|}

=== Rivals ===
These Pokémon either prey for the same unspecified species or often come into contact fighting over territory where their find their food.

{| class="roundtable" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background: #{{bulba color}}; {{roundy|10px}}; border: 3px solid #{{bulba color dark}}" cellpadding=2px
|-
! style="background-color: #{{bulba color dark}}; {{roundy|15px}}; color: white" colspan=2 width=300px | Rivals
! style="background-color: #{{bulba color dark}}; {{roundy|15px}}; color: white" colspan=2 width=300px | Rivals
|-
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|012|Butterfree}}</div>{{pcolor|Butterfree}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|742|Cutiefly}}</div>{{pcolor|Cutiefly}}
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|015|Beedrill}}</div>{{pcolor|Beedrill}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|216|Teddiursa}}</div>{{pcolor|Teddiursa}}
|-
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|047|Parasect}}</div>{{pcolor|Parasect}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|756|Shiinotic}}</div>{{pcolor|Shiinotic}}
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|052|Meowth}}</div>{{pcolor|Meowth}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|198|Murkrow}}</div>{{pcolor|Murkrow}}
|-
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|058|Growlithe}}</div>{{pcolor|Growlithe}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|744|Rockruff}}</div>{{pcolor|Rockruff}}
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|127|Pinsir}}</div>{{pcolor|Pinsir}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|738|Vikavolt}}</div>{{pcolor|Vikavolt}}
|-
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|171|Lanturn}}</div>{{pcolor|Lanturn}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|457|Lumineon}}</div>{{pcolor|Lumineon}}
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|214|Heracross}}</div>{{pcolor|Heracross}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|738|Vikavolt}}</div>{{pcolor|Vikavolt}}
|-
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|283|Surskit}}</div>{{pcolor|Surskit}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|751|Dewpider}}</div>{{pcolor|Dewpider}}
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|302|Sableye}}</div>{{pcolor|Sableye}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|444|Gabite}}</div>{{pcolor|Gabite}}
|-
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|318|Carvanha}}</div>{{pcolor|Carvanha}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|550|Basculin}}</div>{{pcolor|Basculin}}
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|330|Flygon}}</div>{{pcolor|Flygon}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|553|Krookodile}}</div>{{pcolor|Krookodile}}
|-
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|373|Salamence}}</div>{{pcolor|Salamence}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|445|Garchomp}}</div>{{pcolor|Garchomp}}
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|424|Ambipom}}</div>{{pcolor|Ambipom}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|766|Passimian}}</div>{{pcolor|Passimian}}
|}

In [[Pokémon Snap]], several Meowth can also be seen chasing {{p|Pidgey}} at various points on the [[Pokémon Island Beach|Beach]]. Near the end of the course, one can be witnessed lurking around a Pidgey nest before it is {{m|Gust|attacked}} by the Pidgey which roost there.

Events in the anime also reference predator-prey relationships.
* In ''[[EP003|Ash Catches a Pokémon]]'', Misty warns Ash that {{AP|Pidgeotto}} might try to eat the {{AP|Caterpie|Butterfree}} he is battling it with.
* In ''[[EP016|Pokémon Shipwreck]]'', a starving {{MTR}} attempts to eat [[James's Magikarp]].
* In ''[[EP094|Snack Attack]]'', {{AP|Snorlax}} attempts to eat [[Misty's Goldeen]].
* In ''[[EP107|Pokémon Food Fight!]]'', [[Ash's Snorlax]] attempts to eat [[Gulzar#Gloom|Gulzar's Gloom]].
* In ''[[BW139|Team Rocket's Shocking Recruit!]]'', wild {{p|Exploud}} try to swallow [[Iris's Axew]].

===Pokémon parasitically feeding off other Pokémon===
[[File:Heracross sap.png|thumb|250px|Heracross eating Bulbasaur's sap]]
Other cases of Pokémon preying on each other involve more parasitic means. This includes sucking blood, sap, energy or life force from another Pokémon. This is seen with {{p|Haunter}} and {{p|Gengar}}, who in {{ga|Pokémon Ranger}}, together with Gastly, lick the partner Pokémon until they vanish.

The Official Pokémon Handbook mentions {{p|Golbat}} drinking the blood of its enemies, which is noted in most of its in-game Pokédex entries as well.

{{p|Slowbro}}'s Pokédex entry in {{game|Crystal}} mentions that {{p|Shellder}} enjoys the taste of the ooze that comes out of the Slowbro's tail. This is likely why Shellder are attracted to biting Slowpoke; thus initiating the evolution into Slowbro and starting Shellder's parasitic, but symbiotic relationship with the Hermit Crab Pokémon. In Pokémon Snap this can also be witnessed while exploring the [[Pokémon Island River|River]]. [[Todd Snap]] can use Pokémon food to lure Slowpoke to spots where they will begin fishing for Shellder. The Bivalve Pokémon quickly takes advantage of this, and bites the Slowpoke's delicious tail and forming Slowbro.

On numerous occasions, Ash's {{AP|Heracross}} has targeted his {{AP|Bulbasaur}}'s bulb for sap. Even in the heat of battle, he will quickly pin down Bulbasaur and help himself to the sap inside. While not malicious or particularly harmful in nature, this still annoys and causes Bulbasaur discomfort to no end; Heracross seems to be indifferent to this fact, however.

In ''[[BW062|Crisis at Chargestone Cave!]]'', a {{p|Joltik}} latched onto [[Ash's Pikachu]] and drained his electricity. Trying to aid Pikachu, Cilan and Iris decide to send out {{TP|Cilan|Stunfisk}} and {{TP|Iris|Emolga}}, only to find out that more Joltik have already latched themselves onto their Poké Balls and drained the Pokémon from outside.

{| class="roundtable" style="margin:auto; text-align:center; background: #{{bulba color}}; {{roundy|10px}}; border: 3px solid #{{bulba color dark}}" cellpadding=2px
|-
! style="{{roundyleft|15px}}; background-color: #{{bulba color dark}}; color: white" width=150px | Parasite
! style="{{roundyright|15px}}; background-color: #{{bulba color dark}}; color: white" width=150px | Prey
! style="{{roundyleft|15px}}; background-color: #{{bulba color dark}}; color: white" width=150px | Parasite
! style="{{roundyright|15px}}; background-color: #{{bulba color dark}}; color: white" width=150px | Prey
|-
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|097|Hypno}}</div>{{pcolor|Hypno}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|775|Komala}}</div>{{pcolor|Komala}}
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|239|Elekid}}</div>{{pcolor|Elekid}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|777|Togedemaru}}</div>{{pcolor|Togedemaru}}
|-
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|557|Dwebble}}</div>{{pcolor|Dwebble}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|524|Roggenrola}}</div>{{pcolor|Roggenrola}}
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|557|Dwebble}}</div>{{pcolor|Dwebble}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|837|Rolycoly}}</div>{{pcolor|Rolycoly}}
|-
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|595|Joltik}}</div>{{pcolor|Joltik}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|835|Yamper}}</div>{{pcolor|Yamper}}
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|742|Cutiefly}}</div>{{pcolor|Cutiefly}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|829|Gossifleur}}</div>{{pcolor|Gossifleur}}
|-
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|777|Togedemaru}}</div>{{pcolor|Togedemaru}}
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" | <div class="overflow-ms">{{MSP|239|Elekid}}</div>{{pcolor|Elekid}}
| style="{{roundyleft|15px}}" |
| style="{{roundyright|15px}}" |
|}

==Eating non-Pokémon animals==
There are some examples and suggestions that [[Animals in the Pokémon world|non-Pokémon animals]] are preyed on by some Pokémon. The Pokédex entries for {{p|Venonat}} and {{p|Venomoth}} mention them preying on small insects. {{p|Horsea}} is also mentioned to eat bugs and flying insects it shoots down with its ink. Both {{p|Weepinbell}} and {{p|Victreebel}} are known as flycatcher Pokémon, and the latter is mentioned to use the {{m|Sweet Scent|sweet aroma}} of its honey to lure prey such as bugs, as well as large animals. It is even hinted that Victreebel eat humans who venture into the jungle in search of a large Victreebel colony. {{p|Wailord}} has multiple Pokédex entries suggesting it eats {{wp|plankton}}, {{wp|zooplankton}} and {{wp|krill}}, which are small and microscopic plants and animals. Swimming on the sea floor in prehistoric times, {{p|Omanyte}} would eat plankton.

Examples of this also appeared from time to time in the [[original series]] of the anime. Before being {{pkmn2|caught}}, {{AP|Pidgeotto}} is seen eating a {{wp|worm}}. In ''[[EP163|Fossil Fools]]'', a statue based on fossil remains shows {{p|Kabutops}} preying on a large {{wp|fish}}. {{MTR}} of [[Team Rocket]] has also been seen fantasizing about fish, and eating animal based foods such as clams and fried chicken.

==Humans eating Pokémon==
[[File:Edible Magikarp.png|thumb|200px|{{Ash}} and {{an|Brock}} imagining a cooked {{p|Magikarp}}]]
Meat is often shown in the {{pkmn|anime}}, and it has also been shown in [[Pokémon Sword and Shield]]. While it has never been directly shown to come from Pokémon, no other food source has yet been explained. It is known that some Pokémon produce edible foods and by-products such as milk, nuts and fruit. These can be safely harvested with little or no harm or discomfort to the Pokémon. However, it has been mentioned that some Pokémon are hunted and used for their meat: {{p|Farfetch'd}} in particular are noted for making a good meal, especially when cooked with leek, and were nearly hunted to extinction because of this, ultimately leading to their rareness.

During a story arc within the [[Gen II]] games and their remakes, the newly reformed Team Rocket begin stealing {{p|Slowpoke}}, cutting off their [[Slowpoke Tail|tails]] and then selling them as a rare delicacy. It is indicated that the tail is not eaten, but is sucked or lightly chewed on; similar to the manner in which a person would enjoy {{wp|honeysuckle}}. This is also mentioned in the [[Slowpoke Song]], wherein it is implied that this is most common among children. In the [[Alola]] region, Slowpoke tails simply fall off and are used in many Alolan dishes. However, the tails need to be dried and then simmered in a salty stew in order to be properly edible. Many products are made from Slowpoke tails, which show up when examining the shelves at the [[Thrifty Megamart]].

{{p|Sharpedo}}'s dorsal fin was a historically prized delicacy, over-fishing nearly brought it to the brink of extinction.

While visiting the [[Canalave Library]], it is revealed in the {{DL|Sinnoh myths|Sinnoh Folk Tales}} that Pokémon caught from the sea are eaten, and then the bones thrown back into the water. It is also mentioned that the Pokémon that were eaten will return fully fleshed.

In ''[[EP016|Pokémon Shipwreck]]'', Ash and friends, along with Team Rocket are stranded in the middle of the ocean without food. Eventually, due to their hunger and the dire nature of their situation, Ash and Brock began to discuss and fantasize about eating {{DL|List of Pokémon temporarily owned by the Team Rocket trio|Gyarados|James's Magikarp}}. Unfortunately for them and {{MTR}} in particular, Magikarp's body composition renders it nearly inedible. Misty elaborates on this, stating that Magikarp are nothing more than scale and bone, thus there would be little sustenance obtained.

It is possible, based on wording used in {{p|Cherubi}}'s Pokédex entry, that humans, not just Pokémon have eaten Cherubi's ball-like appendage before. Also, according to its {{game|Black and White|s|Pokémon Black 2 and White 2|2}} Pokédex entry, {{p|Basculin}} are remarkably tasty, indicating humans have eaten them as well. [[Pokémon Gold and Silver Versions|Pokémon Silver]]'s entry states that {{p|Seadra}}'s fins and bones are used in herbal medicine. According to [[Pokémon Sun and Moon|Pokémon Moon]]'s {{p|Crabrawler}}'s entry, its pincers aren't meaty, but rich in nutrients and considered delicious. {{p|Crawdaunt}}'s entry in [[Pokémon Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon|Ultra Moon]] says that its claws aren't delicious at all in contrary to Crabrawler and {{p|Clauncher}}'s. Likewise, in Pokemon Sword's entry for {{p|Barraskewda}}, it is heavily implied that they have been eaten before, noting their "surprisingly tasty" flesh.

===Food produced by Pokémon===
Some species of Pokémon are known to produce various kinds of food which can be safely consumed by humans and other Pokémon, presumably without the Pokémon in question being killed and consumed in the process.

* {{p|Chansey}} and {{p|Blissey}} are capable of laying eggs that are delicious and nutritious for humans and Pokémon.
* Certain {{type|Grass}} Pokémon such as {{p|Grotle}}, {{p|Snover}} and {{p|Tropius}} are able to grow edible nuts, berries and other fruit on their bodies. While Pokémon always enjoy these, the same cannot always be said for humans. The food that Grotle produces, for example, tastes bad to humans.
* {{p|Shuckle}} are well known for storing certain kinds of Berries in their shells, which slowly ferment into [[Berry Juice|juice]]. The juice has special properties if consumed by humans and Pokémon, and, as demonstrated in the anime episode ''[[EP170|A Better Pill to Swallow]]'', can be used to make love potion.
* The fungus of {{p|Paras}} and {{p|Parasect}} can be used to make [[potion]]s and medicine.
* {{p|Miltank}} produce [[Moomoo Milk]] which can be bought in the games and used as a healing item. It is stated in both the games and the anime to be both nutritious and delicious. It is also stated in the games that it is said kids who drink it will become hearty, healthy adults. In the anime, groups of Miltank are often kept to produce the milk not only for drinking, but also for the milk used to make dairy products as part of a business. In ''[[XY053|A Race for Home!]]'', it has been shown that milk made by {{p|Skiddo}} are also used to make dairy products such as cheese and soft-serve ice cream.
* {{p|Combee}} and {{p|Vespiquen}} gather nectar from flowers to produce [[Honey]] which is savored by various species of Pokémon, such as {{p|Mothim}} who steal it.
* The black ink spat by {{p|Octillery}} is used for cooking.
* {{p|Gabite|Gabite's}} scales are used as an ingredient in medicines that invigorate weary bodies.
* {{p|Ribombee|Ribombee's}} pollen puffs are highly nutritious and are sold as supplements.

==Dietary change==
[[File:Pokemonfood.png|thumb|160px|Fossilized seed remains of Aerodactyl's favorite food in ancient times]]
Overtime, most mention of Pokémon being eaten by either humans or Pokémon in any manner has become increasingly rare. This may be due to moral issues; as the anime and games progressed, Pokémon became seemingly more human-like. This included displaying individual personalities, human mannerisms, and complex emotions. In most cultures and societies, the idea of human beings eating each other is strictly taboo, so much so that even the idea of fictional creatures eating one another would seem equally cannibalistic if they possessed any human qualities. However, in [[Pokémon Sword and Shield]], {{p|Barraskewda}} and {{p|Appletun}} are both stated to be popular foods for humans.

Some Pokémon have even been given new dietary habits, possibly in an attempt to downplay any predatory behaviors. An example of this would be {{p|Aerodactyl}}, which was originally suggested to be {{wp|carnivore|carnivorous}}, but is later shown to eat fruit. In the [[original series]], Ash's Pokédex states "Its hard fangs suggest it might have been a carnivore. Its sharp claws were probably used to capture prey." Even in the games, Aerodactyl's Pokédex entries mention it tearing the throats out of its enemies. In ''[[EP046|Attack of the Prehistoric Pokémon]]'', Aerodactyl was even shown going for Ash's throat. However, in ''[[HS15|Putting the Air Back in Aerodactyl!]]'', the fossilized Aerodactyl egg {{Gary}} used to resurrect the Pokémon was found near fossilized seed remains. After Aerodactyl escaped, it was only calmed down when fed a pear-like fruit that was a similar DNA match to the seeds. This would imply that Aerodactyl regularly fed on the fruit, implying that it was an {{wp|herbivore}} or an {{wp|omnivore}}.

== Pokémon droppings ==
[[File:Pidgey poop Adventures.png|thumb|250px|{{p|Pidgey}} pooping in [[Pokémon Adventures]]]]
According to a few sources, Pokémon, like regular animals, do leave their own droppings.

[[Berry Master]]'s wife from [[Sinnoh]]'s {{rt|208|Sinnoh}} informs the player that [[mulch]]es are made out of high-grade soil mixed with "''Pokémon... um... you know...''". In [[Pokémon Sun and Moon|Pokémon Sun, Moon]], [[Pokémon Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon|Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon]] the player is requested to clean {{p|Tauros}}'s "''Pokémon... er... trash''" and feed it to [[Regional variant|Alolan]] {{p|Grimer}} in [[Hau'oli City]] Shopping Mall. In [[Pokémon Sword and Shield]], the man at [[Motostoke]] station warns the player about dodging {{p|Pidove}}'s droppings.

{{p|Darumaka}}'s Pokédex entry mentions that its hot droppings were put by people in clothes to keep themselves warm. Many farmers cherish and nurture {{p|Diglett}} because its droppings enrich the soil it lives in. {{p|Turtonator}}'s dung is known to be dangerously explosive, presumably due to its habit of eating sulfur, and is put in various use. Even though {{p|Guzzlord}} is constantly devouring everything on its way, the lack of droppings is a mystery according to its [[Pokédex]] entry. Because [[Regional variant|Galarian]] {{p|Weezing}} consumes particles that contaminate the air, instead of leaving droppings, it expels clean air. [[Pocket Monsters Encyclopedia]] contains a report about {{p|Charizard}}'s capability to fly up 1400 meters in altitude after finding droppings, thought to be theirs, mid-level on {{wp|Mt. Fuji}}.

In ''[[EP046|Attack of the Prehistoric Pokémon]]'' [[Gary Oak]] digs out what was thought to be a Pokémon fossil, it turned out to be fossilized Pokémon manure. In [[PM005]] [[Red's Pikachu (Pocket Monsters)|Red's Pikachu]] poops and gets its face smashed into it by {{TP|Red|Clefairy}}. In ''[[PS002|Bulbasaur, Come Home!]]'' of [[Pokémon Adventures]], {{p|Pidgey}} poops on [[Professor Oak]]'s face. In ''[[PS226|I Dare Ya, Altaria... Knock Chic off My Shoulder]]'', {{adv|Sapphire}} examines a {{p|Zigzagoon}} by putting her nose to its rear, which leaves droppings on her face. [[Sun (Adventures)|Sun]] mentions his Pokédex falling into his [[Poké Ride|ride]] {{p|Mudsdale}}'s dung, causing it to smell badly in ''[[PASM03|Pokémon Move Specialist Professor Kukui]]''.

==Trivia==
* For ''[[DP029|The Champ Twins!]]'', [[Professor Oak's Big Pokémon Encyclopedia]] is about Pokémon food. He writes this {{wp|senryū}} about it: 「かくしあじ　あいじょうたっぷり　ポケモンフーズ」 ''"Filled with the secret ingredient of love; that's Pokémon food."''

==See also==
* [[Flavor]]
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title_en=Obtain the Moon Stone<nowiki>!!</nowiki> |
title_ja=月の石を手に入れる！！ |
title_ro=Obtain the Moon Stone!! |
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manga_series=Pokémon Pocket Monsters |
series=[[Pokémon Pocket Monsters]] |
volume=1 |
location=[[Mt. Moon]] [[Cerulean City]] |
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'''Obtain the Moon Stone!!'''/'''{{tt|Let's Get that Moon Rock!!|Chuang Yi}}''' (Japanese: '''月の石を手に入れる！！''' ''Obtain the Moon Stone!!'') is the fourth chapter of the [[Pokémon Pocket Monsters]] manga.

==Plot==
After a lengthy journey from [[Pewter City]], {{OBP|Red|Pocket Monsters}}, {{TP|Red|Clefairy}} and [[Red's Pikachu (Pocket Monsters)|Pikachu]] all stop to camp out for the night. Red complains that he is hungry that that they haven't eaten anything in two days, when he notices that Clefairy had caught some fish and is now gorging out on one. Seeing the other fish, Red tries to take it from Clefairy, but Clefairy protests by saying that he is saving the other fish for himself tomorrow. The two struggle over the fish which then slips out of their hands and flies into Pikachu's mouth, and is eaten whole by the mouse Pokémon. Dismayed, Clefairy insists that it is now Pikachu's responsibility to catch them more fish and leads him to a river, telling the Pokémon to use its tail as a lure. Red doesn't believe that this is a very good idea, and warns the two that Pikachu's electricity will electrocute the fish. Clefairy ignores Red and insists that Pikachu follows with the idea. Initially, Pikachu defecates into the river, but just as Pikachu dips his tail into the water, all of the fish in the river are electrocuted. like Red predicted. Now having piles of fish to eat, the trio all gather around their campfire to eat their fish.

As they eat, a {{p|Zubat}} unexpectedly dives in and snatches away one of Clefairy's fish. Clefairy demands that his food be returned, but the Zubat refuses and Clefairy responds by tackling it. The Zubat spirals down to the ground, but then starts to glow after it crashes, evolving into a {{p|Golbat}}. The Golbat then angrily chases after Clefairy, threatening to drink his blood. Suddenly a {{i|Poké Ball}} is thrown and captures the Golbat. {{OBP|Green|Pocket Monsters}} then shortly steps into view, having been the one who captured the Golbat. Green takes the moment to mock the three before turning to leave, saying that he has no time to waste on them and announcing that he intends to capture all one hundred fifty-one Pokémon, including the rumored Pokémon {{p|Mew}}. This bothers Red, and he becomes more determined to surpass his rival in any way, and tries to think of other ways to catch more Pokémon.

Red ponders that if Pikachu were to evolve, then maybe he would have a better chance. Clefairy adds that he can evolve too, and Red immediately asks how he could evolve. Taking this opportunity, Clefairy lies to Red that he has to eat a lot of food, and Red quickly runs off to search for something delicious. Before long he returns with a buffet of fruit and Clefairy starts to chow down. Next he says that he has to take a hot bath, which is also provided for him, however instead of evolving right afterward, Clefairy falls asleep, and Red angrily starts to beat him up and demands that Clefairy be more serious about the matter.

Now telling the truth, Clefairy explains to Red that there is a special stone called the [[Moon Stone]] somewhere in [[Mt. Moon]] that will let Clefairy evolve. Red is convinced and becomes motivated to search for it. The trio decide to search for the stone in the grass, and stop when Red asks Clefairy what the stone looks like. Clefairy responds that he doesn't know because he has never seen it before, and Red yells at him again. They are both soon interrupted by a {{p|Snorlax}} sleeping in a tree, telling them to be quiet. Clefairy recognizes this Snorlax and explains to Red that this Snorlax has lived around Mt. Moon for one hundred years and is very wise. Clefairy decides to ask the Snorlax if it had seen a Moon Stone, and Snorlax responds that a Gym Leader named [[Misty]] from [[Cerulean City]] has one of the Moon Stones. Excited, Red and Clefairy head directly to the city.

When they all arrive at their destination, the trio are surprised to find that the Gym is in the middle of a river, with seemingly no way to get across. As they try to figure out a way inside, Misty then shortly approaches them, and Clefairy notices what he assumes to be the Moon Stone being worn around her neck. Misty tells them that if they want her Moon Stone, they will have to battle her for it. Clefairy is determined and accepts the challenge, but quickly changes his mind just as Misty's {{p|Blastoise}} surfaces from the river. Clefairy tries to flee, but Red manages to catch him and pulls him back into the battle. Both are met with Misty's taunts that Clefairy is such a cowardly Pokémon, which offends Clefairy.

Entering the battle, Clefairy attempts to jump and land a kick at Blastoise, but ends up flying over Blastoise as it {{m|Withdraw|withdraws}} its head into its shell, and Clefairy crashes into the Gym's wall. Returning to the battle, Clefairy then tries to use a large stick to flip Blastoise over onto its shell, but is instead just slapped away by the larger Pokémon. Now Misty decides to get serious, and commands her Blastoise to give their opponent a sample of one of their attacks. Two pumps are then injected from Blastoise's shell, with one pump going into the river that sucks up the water and produces a {{m|Hydro Pump}} attack. The water attack slams Clefairy back into the Gym wall, but he manages to find the strength to create a {{m|Barrier}} which repels the water. Red laughs at how easy it is to deflect the water attack, but Misty tells him to look again as seashells and other debris start to pour out from the pumps as well, which hit Clefairy and dunks him into the river. Unfortunately, Clefairy cannot swim, and Red just sits down as he hopelessly watches his Pokémon sink below the surface.

Suddenly the water around the Gym starts to lower and before long, Clefairy can be seen sucking up all of the water, which balloons him into an enormous size. The water is then expelled directly at Blastoise, and the blast is powerful enough to send Blastoise flying off into the sky. Misty admits defeat and approaches Red and Clefairy to hand them their Moon Stone, when a mysterious figure unexpectedly appears and snatches the stone out from her hands. Green then shortly arrives and asks if anyone had seen Mew pass by, which can only mean that it was Mew who had stolen the stone. Red wonders what Mew could want with the stone, and the trio heads off to locate the Mythical Pokémon to get their rightful reward back.

==Major events==
* {{OBP|Red|Pocket Monsters}} defeats [[Misty]].

===Debuts===
====Humans====
* [[Misty]]

====Pokémon debuts====
* {{p|Zubat}}
* {{p|Golbat}}
* {{p|Blastoise}}
* {{p|Mew}}
* {{p|Snorlax}}

==Characters==
===Humans===
* {{OBP|Red|Pocket Monsters}}
* {{OBP|Green|Pocket Monsters}}
* [[Misty]]

===Pokémon===
* {{p|Pikachu}} ({{OP|Red|Pikachu (Pocket Monsters)}})
* {{p|Clefairy}} ({{OP|Red|Clefairy}})
* {{p|Charmander}} ({{OP|Green|Charmander}})
* {{p|Blastoise}} ([[Misty]]'s)
* {{p|Zubat}}
* {{p|Golbat}}
* {{p|Mew}}
* {{p|Snorlax}}

==Trivia==

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==Archives==
This article was merged with "Champion (Trainer class)" on 25 Nov., 2010. Further pre-merge discussion may be found [[Talk:Champion (Trainer class)|here]]. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 10:57, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

==Title defence==
"''It is assumed that the Champion must defend their title against challengers, although this is never explicitly stated.''"

What about when you fight Blue in R/B. They say he's the champion, then you have to fight him to become champion, you beat him and oh noes he is no longer the top-dog. That looks to me like a title defence. - [[User:Ferret|Ferret]] 03:39, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

As someone else noted in another article - the problem with that is FireRed and LeafGreen alone - where when you fight the Elite Four the second time (and in terms of the story - they recognize it's the second time, too) and Blue is the champion agian. - Zeta

That is a problem. But to me that would say that in the game, that it's possible to have more than one champion at the same time, no? Or maybe Game Freak just screwed up. Maybe the translators screwed up, does the original Japanese version share the same not-champion, now-chamption mixup? - [[User:Ferret|Ferret]] 03:56, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

What I don't understand is why, in the games, the main goals are: catch all Pokémon, and '''BECOME THE CHAMPION'''. Yet when you beat the Elite Four/Champion, you can go back and re-chalenge the Champion, even though the game '''says''' you are the Champ, and the Champion has the same speech and is called '''"Champion''' *blank*". It is a '''HUGE''' loophole in the games. Why not retire the old Champ or have them say that you are the Champ now in their pre-battle speech? [[User:GuyNamedSean|GuyNamedSean]] 02:29, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
:[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GameplayAndStorySegregation Sometimes things that should happen don't, because it's a game. It's better if there's a always high-level opponent that you can challenge at any time]. Because of that, they're not going to ''retire'' the game champ. But not changing the speech? Yeah, that's laziness. Apparently you're supposed to make the assumption that the game champion immediately sweeps the Elite Four again once you leave?--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 04:13, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

== Obvious rename ==

Let's rename this to "Pokémon League Champion"; "Pokémon champion" sounds like it is describing someone who is a champion at something else, like contests or Battle Tower. In other words, Pokémon League Champion=moreo specifico. [[User:PH1RESTRIKE|PH1RESTRIKE]] 02:11, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

== Oak ==

Didn't proffesser oak win the first pokemon league in the pokespe manga?- ''unsigned comment from {{u|Lunick v sonela}} ([[User talk:Lunick v sonela|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Lunick v sonela|contribs]]) ''

Sorry.Lunick v sonela 17:12, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

== Sprite ==

Should we have a section regarding the sprites of the Champions? [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']]★ 23:23, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
:That's on the article for the [[Champion]] trainer class. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:24, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
::Right... [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']]★ 23:26, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

== to merge ==

I vote for merging--[[User:Branfili|Branfili]] 04:51, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
:Does anyone actually opose the merge? And if so why? These pages are about the same thing. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:19, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
::I also vote for merging, and that the Trainer Class page should be removed. The new page should be named "Pokémon Champion". 'Coz I dun see a "Boss (Trainer class)" page. The sprites in the Trainer class should be moved to the "In the games" section. -- [[User:Ruixiang95|Ruixiang95]] 13:19, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
:::OK then. Due to absolutely no objection on either talk page, and absolutely no clear reason to have the pages separate, I'm going to combine these pages like Gym Leader was. While the page will be here, it should really be at "Pokémon Champion"—I have checked the games and it is a proper noun. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 08:01, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

== Red ==
Wasn't he explicitly stated as a champion? He took Blue out of his role and became champion for a period. Shouldn't he be stated, for the games? [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 17:33, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
:True, but he is already covered by "* {{player|The player}} of [[Pallet Town]], [[New Bark Town]], [[Littleroot Town]], or [[Twinleaf Town]] (depending) - All games, once defeating the previous Champion". --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 10:04, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

== N? ==

Isn't N technically the champion for a short time? He beat Alder, and then is defeated by the player. [[User:Sennen Goroshi|Sennen Goroshi]] 01:48, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
:Reviving since I just got to that point in the game, and yeah, Alder lost to N, so wouldn't he technically count as a Champion? [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 17:32, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
Well not nessciarily (sorry for the spelling ) but the battle they had wasn't an "official" battle because he would have to beat the elite four and be "eligible" (get 8 or more badges) to even get a chance at the title.--[[User:Glalie Power|Glalie Power]] ([[User talk:Glalie Power|talk]]) 23:51, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

== Picture? ==

I uploaded a picture of the six main series Champions' official art arranged to have them standing in a group. The revision of this page that included the picture was almost instantaneously undone and the uploaded file was subsequently deleted (due to not being currently in use on any page). So, tempted though I am, before I take matters back into my own hands: Would such a picture be a good addition to the page?
[[User:Alderryeguy|Alderryeguy]] 01:21, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
:I'm not sure. You should talk to somebody that is in charge of the archives. They would know why it was deleted. :--[[User:SuperAipom7|SuperAipom7]] ''([[User talk:SuperAipom7|Questions?]])'' 01:42, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
::I deleted it because of the following reasons:
:::1) Not a good job with the cropping.
:::2) It's a mix of the existing pictures in Archives.
:::3) We don't really need them mixed, if you want their picture, then just go to the article of said Champion.
:::4) The quality varies, I'm not sure it should be an option to do this now.
::I (again) appreciate your concern, but I for one think we should let this one pass. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 04:18, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

== Anime Champions ==

Was it ever mentioned that winning the Pokémon League makes you that region's Champion in the anime? Tobias and Cynthia seem to be extremely different cases. In fact, I would think that winning the league would allow access to the Champion League, which as far as I understand it, is an invite-only tournament for Elite Four members, the regional Champion, and probably "Sinnoh League Victors" to compete in. That is speculation, but so is assuming that winning the league automatically makes them the Champion. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:14, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
:No from what I remember in the anime Ash only got a cup when he won a League. It seems like a yearly event. Then next year another winner is crowned and given the cup. I dunno if they obtain the title of "Champion". Also the definition of "Champion" in the anime has not been explained well. All they keep saying is that they are the best trainer in the region yet. They don't seem to have any special role with the Pokemon League unlike the Gym Leaders (Cynthia is an example). [[User:Blueknightex|Blueknightex]] 11:06, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
::Despite being over four years old, I would like to bump this section (given recent events in the anime), since it still has not been addressed. To my knowledge, the anime has never stated that winning a Pokémon League Conference makes you the Champion, yet we are still labeling pages as if it does. On the other hand, we have evidence that this is not the case (e.g. Flint challenging Cynthia for the title of Champion), so I really don't see why we continue to assume this is the case. The way the conference winner and regional Champion are portrayed is completely different. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 12:12, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

== All champions' music remixed. ==

It says that [[Blue (game)|Blue]]'s Champion music was remixed for B/W (and it was) for the battle with the "top trainer" of the Battle Subway. My problem with this is: define "top trainer." [[User:Pokered4000|Pokered4000]] 03:07, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

== VS Banners ==

I believe this page should use the VS Banner sprites for the pictures. I have a few reasons. One, they were used when the Champions were on the Elite Four page, and two, this will make them match the Gym Leaders, Elite Four, and Frontier Brains pages. (Also, I know that Steven and Wallace don't have VS Banners, but hopefully they will eventually.) Also on a somewhat related note, the Champion page should be added to The Pokemon League box that has links to all the main articles about the Gym Leaders, Elite Four, etc. I was not sure where to post that so I put it here. So if someone that can would be so kind as to do those things, I would really appreciate it. If you have any reasons as to why it shouldn't be done also I'd be interested to hear them.
[[User:CoolDudeAl|CoolDudeAl]] ([[User talk:CoolDudeAl|talk]]) 20:11, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

==Pokémon Champions in Adventures==
Shouldn't Cynthia and Alder be included? In [[PS431|Different Dimensions Battle I]] Cynthia's grandmother scolds her for thinking that becoming a Champion means one doesn't need to train anymore. And Alder is the reigning Champion (at least according to Black). [[User:Ariano|Ariano]] ([[User talk:Ariano|talk]]) 19:40, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

== Is Red a Champion? ==

''"In {{2v2|Black|White}}, Cynthia tells the player that once every few years, the Champions from all the regions come together and battle to find the strongest among them. In the [[Pokémon World Tournament]] in {{2v2|Black|White|2}}, which takes place 2 years later, all the Champions the player battles in previous games participate in the tournament, '''as well as {{ga|Red}}'''."''

This contradicts the table below, as this part of the sentence implies Red is not a Champion. The table has Red included, even though it implies he is not in that sentence. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 03:18, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

Something from a random NPC inside of a house in Viridian City from HGSS:

''You go all over the place and battle all kinds of Trainers. This is not just to train your Pokémon. This is also a chance too experience many things yourself. I bet the '''Champion from Pallet Town''' went to all the cities and towns in Kanto.''

He's clearly talking about Red, since in the remake they don't keep things about Red secret like in the original GSC, and just the fact that he's in the Champions Tournament of the World Tournament should tell you even more that he is a Champion. [[User:Lamarfll|Lamarfll]] ([[User talk:Lamarfll|talk]]) 02:09, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

==Red as Champion==
I think we can all establish the fact that there is canon evidence to support Red being Champion (eg. HG/SS reference, actual Champion title given, he can be fought, etc.). However, the only problem I have with this piece of information as it is would be the location. Red shouldn't be under Indigo Plateau, rather it should be Mt. Silver because he is not fought in Indigo Plateau itself. He shouldn't be categorized with Blue and Lance. [[User:Zorocario|Zorocario]] ([[User talk:Zorocario|talk]]) 03:23, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

:To put something on top, "The player has always met the Champion before challenging the Elite Four"? I don't remember seeing him in GSCHGSS before Mt. Silver. Shouldn't we correct that? [[User:TeudowEthan|TeudowEthan]] ([[User talk:TeudowEthan|talk]]) 08:20, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
::Red is not the Champion in GSC/HGSS. He was the Champion at one point, but now Lance holds that title. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 09:19, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

== Name. ==

Blue [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgNm2WZtGWY#t=7m52s refers] to himself as "League Champ" in FRLG. Oddly enough, seconds later he refers to the player as "Pokémon League Champion". [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 20:40, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

== N as Champion? ==

Just out of curiosity, would N be canonically considered a Champion? He DOES beat Alder himself in Black and White, and you do have to fight him as (one of) the final boss after beating the Elite Four. I think he would fall under the same category as Blue, being a Champion only temporarily, and like Red, not listed as a Champion when fought. These are just my thoughts, but I'd like to know what you guys think. [[User:Zorocario|Zorocario]] ([[User talk:Zorocario|talk]]) 19:09, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

:Quote from N just after he defeated Alder:
::''"It's over! Never again will Pokémon be made to suffer or be held captive by humans. It's all thanks to my friend, Zekrom/Reshiram! You may have the title of Champion… But you can't stop me with just a title. Your soft heart has left you weak. Years ago, you lost your Pokémon, your partner, to sickness. In order to forget the pain in your heart, you wandered Unova… Who knows how long it's been since you've had to fight with your full strength? I actually kind of like that about you, though. As a Trainer who far outmatches the Champion, I shall issue an order across Unova: Trainers of the world, free your Pokémon!"'''
:This seems to indicate that while he defeated Alder, he chose not to be Champion. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 03:49, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, but you can't choose to be champion. I think the champion is the strongest trainer in the region, or in the case of Indigo, regions. Basically, the champion is whoever defeats the last champion. I think while Alder had the legal title of Champion, but N was the true champion- he just didin't formalize it. I think it's sorta like how Lance is Champion in G/S/C/HG/SS, but Red is obviously stronger and was known to have beaten Lance a few years before. Maybe we should just include both of them. [[User:Unsuspectingfool|uNsUsPeCtInG fOoL]] ([[User talk:Unsuspectingfool|talk]]) 18:38, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

:I don't think we should add him unless something explicitly says he's considered a champion to be honest. --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 18:43, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

::The Champion is not necessarily the strongest Trainer in the region, it's just the one who currently retains the title, who gets it through Pokémon League protocol. I don't believe N collected 8 Badges, so while he defeated the Elite Four, he wouldn't qualify to become Champion anyway (and he let Alder keep the title). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:30, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

:::I know this isn't the newest thing ever, but I'd like to point out some things in favour of him being a storyline champion, like Red. I don't believe N would force his way through the Gates that check for badges, nor would he evade them. As you remember, he truly believed he was doing right, and he clearly didn't try and be a criminal, and I doubt he would enter the league without the badges. My second point being in the Super Music Collection for Pokemon Black and White, his battle theme is listed as "決戦", which translates to Decisive Battle. This title is only ever used by Champion Steven and N. Thoughts? [[User:ArtistKyurem|ArtistKyurem]] ([[User talk:ArtistKyurem|talk]]) 05:25, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

::::The "''far outmatching the Champion''" phrase seems pretty clear. It's never been stated you're not allowed to refuse the title anyway.
::::The name of the battle theme can be explained by the fact that the guy just summoned his [[N's Castle|Castle]] to [[N#In the games|attach]] to the Pokémon League, and that you're battling his {{p|Zekrom}}{{sup/5|Bl}}/{{p|Reshiram}}{{sup/5|W}} with your {{p|Reshiram}}{{sup/5|Bl}}/{{p|Zekrom}}{{sup/5|W}}, putting each others' beliefs on the line for the future of Unova.
::::So my thinking is:
::::'''Did he have all the Badges?'''
:::::→ '''No:''' If you're thinking you're gonna save the world, then Badges can probably wait. It's very possible for him to have said <nowiki>'</nowiki>''look over there!''<nowiki>'</nowiki>, and then storming in.
:::::→ '''Yes, did he know that makes you the Champion?'''
::::::→ '''No:''' He's ignorant.
::::::→ '''Yes:''' He refused it. ''(the currently accepted solution)''
::::--'''[[User:Det|Det]][[User talk:Det|talk]]''' 19:08, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

:::::Keep in mind that the entirety of N's Castle is past thee Badge Check Gates; N was raised on the other side of them, so going between the main region and his home would not be necessarily intentionally evading them. The entirety of Team Plasma, even those who followed Rood and N in B2W2 and actually loved Pokémon, was past the Badge Check Gates, so I don't think it is appropriate to think about the members evading the gates as much as just having their base of operations past them. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 09:24, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

::::::Well, it was and it wasn't. I think you're overlooking the fact that the [[N's Castle|Castle]] [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifikhFHOcpk&t=1m58s dug out] from ''behind'' what was the [[Pokémon League (Unova)|Pokémon League]], and let's stress that: it was ''underground''. So this doesn't necessarily mean the entirety of [[Team Plasma]] were some mole men digging into the surface, climbing past the back wall of the Pokémon League, negligently passing [[Alder]], the guards and the difficult terrained [[Victory Road (Black and White)|Victory Road]] on their evil missions to do evil deeds to good people.

::::::If the whole Castle can levitate that easily, I'm betting it has some kind of highly advanced, energy-efficient undetectable excavation system as well. Perhaps based on [[Wikipedia:Perpetual motion|perpetual motion]], as breaking the [[Wikipedia:Laws of physics|laws of physics]] seems big deal. --'''[[User:Det|Det]][[User talk:Det|talk]]''' 00:50, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

:I definitely think N is a Champion like Blue, AKA a temporary Champion. He should also be listed.--[[User:BlackButterfree|BlackButterfree]] ([[User talk:BlackButterfree|talk]]) 00:57, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

::Are you mocking his intelligence, too? --'''[[User:Det|Det]][[User talk:Det|talk]]''' 18:01, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

:::Whose intelligence am I mocking? O.o N beat the current Champion, and even if he denounced the title, it's still his. Then the player beats him and then beats Adler. --[[User:BlackButterfree|BlackButterfree]] ([[User talk:BlackButterfree|talk]]) 18:43, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

::::Like I said, he either didn't have all the badges to qualify for the title, or if he did, the phrase "As a Trainer who far outmatches the Champion" either means he's ignorant enough not to know that or he refused the title (e.g. being against the whole ideology).
::::So basically, only if he was ignorant, would he had been the temporary Champion. --'''[[User:Det|Det]][[User talk:Det|talk]]''' 23:27, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
:::::N is not a Champion because he did not take the helm of the Champion, like Blue did.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 02:50, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

== If Red is considered a champion, shouldn't all protagonists be considered champions as well? ==

After you beat the champion in any game technically you are the new champion. So, shouldn't the other protagonists be put on the list of champions?

I can't really think of a reason why Red is the only one there except you can actually met him in game unlike other protagonists. Still, that shouldn't exclude other character from the list.

I think Red should be put in another list. A "non-active champion" section, since Red never actually plays the role of the champion in any of the games (unless you count the Pokemon World Tournament which I don't because a champion's main role is to be the final challenger in the Pokemon League and the PWT isn't a part of that).

[[User:Coolcatkim22|Coolcatkim22]] ([[User talk:Coolcatkim22|talk]]) 15:01, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
:My memory is a bit fuzzy on this, but wasn't Red mentioned to be a former Champion in GSC/HGSS?--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 01:03, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
::I am fairly sure Blue implies Red overtook his position or something along the lines when you met him on the Cinnabar Island (or what left of it). [[User:Eridanus|Eridanus]] ([[User talk:Eridanus|talk]]) 06:50, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

== Pseudo Legendary Pokemon ==

We should place something in the trivia about how each champion with the exception of red wallace and Alder own pseudo legendary pokemon--[[User:Just a simple edit|Just a simple edit]] ([[User talk:Just a simple edit|talk]]) 15:37, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

:Three exceptions out of nine means that that trivia is hardly notable. —[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 15:51, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

== Iris and Diantha ==

Since Iris is the champion in Black 2 and White 2, the Opelucid Gym Leader in White, and is expected to run the gym in the anime, should it be stated that Iris is the first Champion Ash battled? Or does that bit of information go to Diantha? I think I left something about this on Diantha's page, but I can't remember, and this topic has my curiosity piqued. [[User:WATERWARRIOR67|WATER]][[User talk:WATERWARRIOR67|Warrior]]67 18:50, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
:Iris is not a Pokémon Champion in the anime, so you can't say Ash was battling a Champion when battling her. And Diantha wasn't the first Champion Ash went up against, Alder was.--[[User:Mikuri|'''Mi''']][[User talk: Mikuri|'''ku''']][[Special:Contributions/Mikuri|'''ri''']] 00:05, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

== Alder ==

How do we know that Alder specializes in Bug types? [[User:WATERWARRIOR67|WATER]][[User talk:WATERWARRIOR67|Warrior]]67 16:23, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

== Trivia ==

While it's true that all champions are met by the player before the Pokemon League challenge. Isn't it a moot point that Blue isn't a Champion until then?--[[User:Benayla|Benayla]] ([[User talk:Benayla|talk]]) 17:34, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

== Name + opening line ==

How come the page's name is "Pokémon Champion" but the opening line talks about the "Pokémon League Champion" and say that it's often shortened to "Pokémon Champion"? It doesn't seem to make sense that the page's name is the shortened one, does it? [[User:MannedTooth| MannedTooth ]] ([[User_Talk:MannedTooth|Talk]]) 05:53, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
:Pokémon League Champion is what it's officially called, but people are more likely to search for Pokémon Champion instead.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:00, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
::Why not just move it to Champion, then? That's also listed as a common shortening, and it seems to me like that would be even more likely for people to search. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 06:02, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
:::Well, there is a redirect for the word Champion. I never quite understood why we don't use the official name but rather the commonly known name if redirects exist, take for example [[Professor Oak]], instead of being called "Samuel.........Oak", the page's name is Professor Oak, why not use the official and let redirects do their job ? :o [[User:MannedTooth| MannedTooth ]] ([[User_Talk:MannedTooth|Talk]]) 06:20, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
::::Champion might be too broad of a title. [[Master]] is a disambiguation page, rather than have Pokémon Master being just Master, so it's probably the same case here.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 06:33, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
:::::At risk of bringing up a dead conversation (talk page necromancy!), I think it seems reasonable to move to "Pokémon League Champion" with redirects from "Pokémon Champion" and "Champion". The latter may be a disambiguation, though, since as you mentioned it's a rather broad term. --[[User:Felthry|Felthry]] ([[User talk:Felthry|talk]]) 01:17, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
::::::I think it shouldn't be moved there. I guess it makes sense to have articles at what they're commonly referred to, even if it's not the most official title. (For example, I vastly favor "''Prince William, Duke of Cambridge''" over "''William Arthur Philip Louis, Duke of Cambridge, Earl of Strathearn, and Baron Carrickfergus''".) However, I think "Champion" might be the most appropriate title (it's the Trainer class), and in contast to "Master", I can see no issues that would arise. (But it's also fine where it is now, I don't care too much.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 14:03, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

== Hoenn Elite 4 ==

In [[PS251]], the Elite Four are said to be the winners of past tournaments, meaning they were Champions. When Wallace wins the tournament, Steven, a confirmed champion, was going to be moved to the Elite Four. [[User:Iml908|Iml908]] ([[User talk:Iml908|talk]]) 17:56, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

In round 251, it also said the front rank of several from previous tournaments are selected as the elite 4 (Japanese 上位入賞者). So they are also probably a second place, third place, etc. [[User:E9310103838|E9310103838]] ([[User talk:E9310103838|talk]]) 16:35, 25 December 2016 (UTC)

== Alola Champion ==

Why is Prof. Kukui is not inserted as the Champion of Alola League? [[User:Rockapheller|Rockapheller]] ([[User talk:Rockapheller|talk]]) 22:38, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
:Because he's not the champion; he just organized the Pokémon League and made himself the final challenger for the first champion (you). —[[User:Minimiscience|Minimiscience]] ([[User talk:Minimiscience|talk]]) 22:50, 24 January 2017 (UTC)

== "Only half of Alder's party is made up of Bug-type Pokémon" ==

Why is this a revert reason? Only half of Steven's party is Steel and half of Lance and Iris' parties are Dragon. [[User:Lmoamemesxd|Lmoamemesxd]] ([[User talk:Lmoamemesxd|talk]]) 01:47, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

Talk:Mohn

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== Relatives ==
This page lists Mohn's relatives but is it ever confirmed in the games? I know it's hinted at, but they never explicitly say that Mohn is the father. ☆[[User:Solar Dragon|The]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|Solar]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|Dragon]]☆ 11:29, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
:<pre>Aether Report: Ultra Wormholes Beyond the Ultra Wormholes that Professor Mohn discovered lies a different dimension.</pre>
:Gladion: <pre>It was my father who started it. He was the one who first confirmed the existence of Ultra Wormholes and Ultra Beasts.</pre> --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 12:00, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
::Ah, okay. I must have missed one of those lines. ☆[[User:Solar Dragon|The]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|Solar]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|Dragon]]☆ 10:26, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

== Aether professor? ==

Does anyone know of any concrete evidence that Mohn was actually a professor '''''at''''' the Aether Foundation? I can't seem to find that (irrefutable) connection; in which case it should be ''possible'' that he worked independently of Aether. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 03:16, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

== "Husband" ==
Is it ever explicitly stated that Mohn was Lusamine's husband? Sure, they fucked, but I don't think it's ever actually confirmed that they were husband and wife. Correct me if I'm wrong. --[[User:Lmoamemesxd|Lmoamemesxd]] ([[User talk:Lmoamemesxd|talk]]) 09:49, 5 May 2017 (UTC)

Template talk:Alola

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Olivia uses Rock-types :P [[User:Nutter Butter|Nutter Butter]] ([[User talk:Nutter Butter|talk]]) 20:08, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
:Got it, I didn't pay attention to that at all. >_< Thanks! [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 20:22, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

== Header icons ==
I propose we display the trial completion stamps as header icons, equivalent to Badges. --[[User:Lmoamemesxd|Lmoamemesxd]] ([[User talk:Lmoamemesxd|talk]]) 01:35, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

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Bittercold

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[[File:Bittercold PMDGTI.png|thumb|200px|The Bittercold]]
[[File:Bittercold Core PMDGTI.png|thumb|200px|The Bittercold with its core revealed]]
The '''Bittercold''', also known as the '''Great Crystal''' (Japanese: '''{{tt|氷触体|ひょうしょくたい}}''' ''Glacial Body''), is a giant ice creature resembling a snowflake which appears in [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Gates to Infinity]]. It dwells in the [[Glacier Palace - Great Spire|Glacier Palace's Great Spire]] where it attempts to destroy the world. The Bittercold is the final boss in the main story of Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Gates to Infinity. The Bittercold is not a Pokémon, and is the first non-Pokémon being in the Pokémon Mystery Dungeon series.

The {{player}} encounters this creature immediately after battling {{mdc|Kyurem|gti}}. If defeated, the player can re-challenge the Bittercold without having to redo the dungeon. When re-challenged, the Bittercold will also keep the same amount of {{stat|HP}} from when the player was last defeated.

==Role==
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While traveling with the Voice of Life, {{mdc|Hydreigon|gti}}, to reunite with their partner, after completing [[Ochre Quarry]] the player is told that the reason Hydreigon brought them to the [[Pokémon world (Mystery Dungeon)|world of Pokémon]], along with many other humans, is to destroy the Bittercold, a mysterious lifeform that suddenly appeared and is trying to destroy the world. It has the power to make ice and other objects float, which explains various mysterious phenomena the player witnessed previously. It is protected at the top of the [[Glacier Palace]] by the seer, Kyurem, who obstinately strives to protect the future he sees - even though it is the world's end - by using {{mdc|Munna|gti}}'s gang to stop any humans which come to the World of Pokémon. Hydreigon explains that since the Bittercold is constructed from the negative emotions of Pokémon, any Pokémon that get close to the Bittercold are suffocated by its negative power; however, a human may not be affected by this power.

When the player first arrives in the room where the Bittercold lurks, the wind coming from the Bittercold becomes too much for the player's partner - being suffocated by it, they collapse, unable to fight the Bittercold. Kyurem explains that this phenomenon, known as the Winds of Despair, is what feeds the Bittercold with the negative emotions of Pokémon all over the world.

As the player approaches the Bittercold, they too begin to feel the effects of the Winds of Despair, despite being human. Despite having come so far, the player finds they are unable to take a single step when faced with the Bittercold, even though all the world's hopes are entrusted to them and all are relying on them to save the world. Suddenly, they hear a voice urging them to keep going. Before they have a chance to wonder where this voice came from, they hear another, and another. As the voices of encouragement multiply, they suppress the Winds of Despair and stop the Bittercold from moving. The player's partner states to Kyurem that this shows the world's future can be changed by everyone. The player's strength returns thanks to the power of the many voices of encouragement, and they begin to fight the Bittercold alone.

===First battle===
At the start of the battle, the Bittercold will be immune to any damage dealt to it. This will continue for a few turns, then that battle ends. The player realizes that none of their attacks are even able to scratch the Bittercold, and begins to waver. That moment of hesitation is felt by the Bittercold, and the Winds of Despair return. The player's partner urges the player not to get depressed, and that the power of emotions is strong. But that hesitation not only strengthened the wind, but the Bittercold too, and a purple whirlpool of the wind begins swirling from the top of the [[Glacier Palace - Great Spire|Great Spire]].

The screen then shows everyone in [[Post Town]] watching the palace from the top of the hill, and seeing the darkness coming from it makes them wonder if even though they urged the player on, perhaps all hope has already been lost, and that they should give up. But Dunsparce reminds them that not only those in that town, but many others around the world (who can't even see the Glacier Palace) are desperately sending their emotions to the player, and that they should believe in the player and not stop just because they can see the clouds.

Rufflet spots that the purple whirlpool is growing, beginning to panic at the sight. Herdier urges them on, but he wonders to himself why his own words sound hollow, beginning to think that perhaps fate cannot be changed. Back in the Bittercold's room, the player's partner manages to get up, urging the player that despite them being slowly suffocated, they still continued on, so the player must do the same. The player tries very hard to get back up, powered by their friendship with their partner, and then successfully musters the last of their strength to lash out at the Bittercold, cracking its front. The player attacks again and shatters the front part of it, revealing a red core. The darkness around the palace momentarily disappears and a small rainbow appears at the top.

Back in Post Town, the Pokémon notice the rainbow before the Winds of Despair quickly return. Herdier states that despite it being a long time since he last saw it, the rainbow was surely the Rainbow of Hope, a mythical rainbow that instills a strong feeling of hope into any who witness it. Patrat goes off to tell all the other Pokémon about it, and all the Pokémon at the hill, realizing that hope is not yet lost, urge the player to let them see the Rainbow of Hope again. The screen then switches back to the player, who feels everyone's voices of encouragement focused on them again, and strengthened by their emotions, the real battle begins.

===Second battle===
In the second battle, the player will be able to deal damage to the weakened Bittercold. When the player defeats the Bittercold, it shatters and the Winds of Despair dissipate from the Glacier Palace Crystal Tower once again.

Then the player's partner gets back up again, realizing that the player beat the Bittercold, and the palace starts to crack and break apart, falling from the sky, which then starts the ending of the game. The tower is thus destroyed forever; after the main story's ending, it cannot be accessed again.
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==Attacks used==
* The Bittercold manipulates the Winds of Despair to perform several different unnamed attacks to cause damage to the player. Depending on what attack it uses, it can cause {{status|confusion}}, reduce the player's Attack and Special Attack, or reduce the PP of all the player's moves by 3 each.

==Trivia==
* It is similar to [[Dark Rust]], [[Dark Matter]] and the Void Shadows in that they can be fought, but are not Pokémon.

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Inferno Cave

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|colorscheme=fire
|bordercolorscheme=ghost
|name=Inferno Cave
|jname=れっかのどうくつ
|jtrans=Inferno Cave
|image=
|recruitable=No
|floors=30
|rest=No
|traps=Yes
|monsterhouses=Yes
|items=8
|money=No
|teamsize={{tt|1|Leader only}}
|startlevel=Current
|maintype={{t|Fire}}, {{t|Ghost}}
|boss={{p|Entei}}{{tt|*|Challenge request only}}
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'''Inferno Cave''' (Japanese: '''れっかのどうくつ''' ''Inferno Cave'') is a dungeon exclusive to {{g|Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky}} which is accessible after receiving the challenge request from {{p|Entei}}. It is mainly filled with {{type|Fire}} Pokémon. Only the leader can enter this dungeon, and it cannot be entered until the {{player}}'s team has reached Guildmaster Rank. Inferno Cave's difficult characteristics and tight restrictions are similar to [[Oblivion Forest|the]] [[Treacherous Waters|three]] [[Southeastern Islands|dungeons]] before it: the player cannot bring any money, is only allowed eight items, cannot call for a rescue upon being defeated, and may encounter [[Dungeon tile#Traps|Random Traps]] and [[Dungeon tile#Traps|Grudge Traps]] along the way. The last floor contains one {{DL|treasure box|Deluxe Box}} containing an [[IQ]] Booster and a Warp Zone to transport the player out of the dungeon.

==Pokémon encountered==
{{mdloc/h|fire|ghost}}
{{mdloc|316|Gulpin|B1-B8|64-66|0}}
{{mdloc|092|Gastly|B1-B10|64-67|0}}
{{mdloc|322|Numel|B1-B10|64-67|0}}
{{mdloc|408|Cranidos|B1-B10|64-67|0}}
{{mdloc|126|Magmar|B1-B13|64-68|0}}
{{mdloc|425|Drifloon|B1-B14|64-68|0}}
{{mdloc|353|Shuppet|B1-B15|64-68|0}}
{{mdloc|037|Vulpix|B1-B29|64-69|0}}
{{mdloc|078|Rapidash|B1-B29|64-69|0}}
{{mdloc|157|Typhlosion|B1-B29|64-69|0}}
{{mdloc|164|Noctowl|B1-B29|64-69|0}}
{{mdloc|200|Misdreavus|B1-B29|64-69|0}}
{{mdloc|306|Aggron|B1-B29|64-69|0}}
{{mdloc|317|Swalot|B9-B29|66-69|0}}
{{mdloc|323|Camerupt|B11-B18|67-69|0}}
{{mdloc|093|Haunter|B11-B20|67-69|0}}
{{mdloc|409|Rampardos|B11-B29|67-69|0}}
{{mdloc|244|Entei|B15-B29|65|100|boss=yes}}
{{mdloc|426|Drifblim|B15-B29|68-69|0}}
{{mdloc|467|Magmortar|B15-B29|68-69|0}}
{{mdloc|354|Banette|B16-B29|69|0}}
{{mdloc|324|Torkoal|B19-B29|69|0}}
{{mdloc|094|Gengar|B21-B29|69|0}}
{{mdloc/f|fire|Entei can only be fought through challege request}}

==In other languages==
{{Langtable|color={{fire color}}|bordercolor={{ghost color}}
|fr=Grotte Brasier
|de=Infernohöle
|it=Grotta Infuocata
|es=Cueva Flama
}}

{{-}}
{{PMD2 locations}}
{{DoubleProjectTag|Locations|Sidegames}}

[[Category:Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky locations]]
[[Category:Caves]]

[[de:Infernohöhle]]
[[fr:Grotte Brasier]]
[[it:Grotta Infuocata]]
[[ja:れっかのどうくつ]]

Aegis Cave

2016-12-15T12:03:00Z

Lmoamemesxd: 19 floors

{{DungeonPrevNext|Miracle Sea|Mt. Travail|2}}
{{Dungeon infobox
|size=256
|colorscheme=psychic
|bordercolorscheme=poison
|name=Aegis Cave
|jname=ばんにんのどうくつ
|jtrans=Watchman's Cave
|image=Aegis Cave.png
|recruitable=Yes
|floors={{tt|19 total|3 for Ice, Regice Chamber, 3 for Rock, Regirock Chamber, 4 for Steel, Registeel Chamber, 5 for Final, Regigigas Chamber}}
|items=48
|rest=4
|traps=Yes
|monsterhouses=No
|money=Allowed
|teamsize=4
|startlevel=Current
|maintype={{t|Psychic}}, {{t|Poison}}, {{t|Fighting}}
|boss={{p|Regice}} {{tt|Ice Chamber|Until recruited}} {{p|Regirock}} {{tt|Rock Chamber|Until recruited}} {{p|Registeel}} {{tt|Steel Chamber|Until recruited}} {{p|Regigigas}} {{p|Hitmonlee}} {{tt|×4|Unrecruitable}} {{p|Bronzong}} {{tt|×4|Unrecruitable}} {{tt|Regigigas Chamber|Until Regigigas is recruited}}
}}
'''Aegis Cave''' (Japanese: '''ばんにんのどうくつ''' ''Watchman's Cave'') is a dungeon in [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness]] and [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky|Explorers of Sky]]. It is segmented into 4 sections, each home to one of the [[legendary titans]].

The {{player}}'s team first enters the cave with [[Team Charm]]. The exploration team first enters the first Monument Room; from there, if the I, C, and E stones are in the [[Treasure Bag]] the team can proceed to the Regice Chamber; if they do not have the required stones, the team enters Ice Aegis Cave, where these stones can be collected. After defeating {{p|Regice}} in the Regice Chamber, the team proceeds to the second Monument Room, where they will proceed either to the Rock Aegis Cave or {{p|Regirock}} Chamber depending on if they have the R, O, C, and K stones. After defeating Regirock in the Regirock Chamber, the team proceeds to the third Monument Room, where they will proceed either to the Steel Aegis Cave or {{p|Registeel}} Chamber depending on if they have the S, T, L stones and two E stones. After defeating Registeel, the team proceeds to the Aegis Cave Pit, where {{p|Regigigas}} is battled along with a group of four {{p|Hitmonlee}} and four {{p|Bronzong}}.

[[Throwing item#Unown Stones|Unown stones]] are sometimes dropped by {{p|Unown}} when defeated; the stone dropped corresponds to the letter or symbol of the Unown knocked out. All 28 Unown stones have no practical use outside Aegis Cave; all stones other than C, E, I, K, L, O, R, S, and T have no practical use ''in'' the dungeon, either. They cause 60 damage if thrown at a Pokémon (90 damage if the Pokémon has the [[IQ]] skill Power Pitcher) and can be sold for 10 [[Poké]].

Unlike most other dungeons, the cave's intermissive rooms have no exits. A player attempting to leave through the south will encounter an invisible wall, and will be unable to pass. The only ways to leave the cave are to complete it or use an {{DL|Wonder Orb|Escape Orb}}.

==Pokémon encountered==
===Ice Aegis Cave===
{{mdloc/h|ice}}
{{mdloc|041|Zubat|B1-B3|16|5.5}}
{{mdloc|042|Golbat|B1-B3|45|-4.5}}
{{mdloc|201|Unown|B1-B3|43|8.2|unownrand=yes}}
{{mdloc/f|ice}}

===Regice Chamber===
{{mdloc/h|ice}}
{{mdloc|378|Regice|Regice Chamber|46|-12}}
{{mdloc/f|ice|Regice cannot be recruited on the first visit.}}

===Rock Aegis Cave===
{{mdloc/h|rock}}
{{mdloc|041|Zubat|B1-B3|16-17|5.5}}
{{mdloc|042|Golbat|B1-B3|45-46|-4.5}}
{{mdloc|201|Unown|B1-B3|43-44|8.2|unownrand=yes}}
{{mdloc|067|Machoke|B2-B3|41|-4.5}}
{{mdloc|068|Machamp|B2-B3|47|-10}}
{{mdloc/f|rock}}

===Regirock Chamber===
{{mdloc/h|rock}}
{{mdloc|377|Regirock|Regirock Chamber|46|-12}}
{{mdloc/f|rock|Regirock cannot be recruited on the first visit.}}

===Steel Aegis Cave===
{{mdloc/h|steel}}
{{mdloc|041|Zubat|B1-B4|17-18|5.5}}
{{mdloc|042|Golbat|B1-B4|46-47|-4.5}}
{{mdloc|067|Machoke|B1-B4|41-42|-4.5}}
{{mdloc|068|Machamp|B1-B4|47-48|-10}}
{{mdloc|201|Unown|B1-B4|44-45|8.2|unownrand=yes}}
{{mdloc/f|steel}}

===Registeel Chamber===
{{mdloc/h|steel}}
{{mdloc|379|Registeel|Registeel Chamber|46|-12}}
{{mdloc/f|steel|Registeel cannot be recruited on the first visit.}}

===Aegis Cave Pit===
{{mdloc/h|psychic}}
{{mdloc|067|Machoke|B1-B3|42-43|-4.5}}
{{mdloc|068|Machamp|B1-B3|48-49|-10}}
{{mdloc|041|Zubat|B1-B3, B5|18-19|5.5}}
{{mdloc|042|Golbat|B1-B3, B5|47-48|-4.5}}
{{mdloc|169|Crobat|B1-B5|44-45|-12}}
{{mdloc|201|Unown|B1-B5|45-46|8.2|unownrand=yes}}
{{mdloc|150|Mewtwo|B5|50|-22|game=darkness|part=yes}}
{{mdloc/f|psychic}}

===Regigigas Chamber===
{{mdloc/h|MD Time|MD Darkness}}
{{mdloc|106|Hitmonlee|Regigigas Chamber|35|0}}
{{mdloc|437‎|Bronzong|Regigigas Chamber|35|0}}
{{mdloc|486|Regigigas|Regigigas Chamber|49|100|boss=yes}}
{{mdloc/f|MD Darkness|There are 4 Hitmonlee and 4 Bronzong. Regigigas cannot be recruited on the first visit.}}

==In other languages==
{{Incomplete|section|needs Korean translations}}
{|
|- style="vertical-align:top"
|
''Aegis Cave''
{{langtable|color={{psychic color}}|bordercolor={{MD Darkness color dark}}
|fr=Grotte Egide
|de=Ägishöhle
|it=Grotta Egida
|ko=파수꾼의 동굴
|es=Cueva Regia
}}
|
''Ice Aegis Cave''
{{langtable|color={{ice color}}|bordercolor={{ice color dark}}
|fr=Grotte Egide de Glace
|de=Eis-Ägishöhle
|it=Grotta di Ghiaccio
|ko=파수꾼의 동굴 아이스 방
|es=Cueva Regia Ice
}}
|
''Regice Chamber''
{{langtable|color={{ice color}}|bordercolor={{ice color dark}}
|fr=Antre Regice
|de=Regice-Kammer
|it=Sala Regice
|ko=레지아이스의 방
|es=Camara Regice
}}
| style="vertical-align:top;" |
''Rock Aegis Cave''
{{langtable|color={{rock color}}|bordercolor={{rock color dark}}
|fr=Grotte Egide de Roche
|de=Fels-Ägishöhle
|it=Grotta di Roccia
|ko=파수꾼의 동굴 락 방
|es=Cueva Regia Rock
}}
|
''Regirock Chamber''
{{langtable|color={{rock color}}|bordercolor={{rock color dark}}
|fr=Antre Regirock
|de=Regirock-Kammer
|it=Sala Regirock
|ko=레지락의 방
|es=Camara Regirock
}}
|- style="vertical-align:top"
|
''Steel Aegis Cave''
{{langtable|color={{steel color}}|bordercolor={{steel color dark}}
|fr=Grotte Egide d'Acier
|de=Stahl-Ägishöhle
|it=Grotta d'Acciaio
|ko=파수꾼의 동굴 스틸 방
|es=Cueva Regia Steel
}}
|
''Registeel Chamber''
{{langtable|color={{steel color}}|bordercolor={{steel color dark}}
|fr=Antre Registeel
|de=Registeel-Kammer
|it=Sala Registeel
|ko=레지스틸의 방
|es=Camara Registeel
}}
|
''Aegis Cave Pit''
{{langtable|color={{psychic color}}|bordercolor={{psychic color dark}}
|fr=Grotte Egide fond
|de=Ägishöhlegrube
|it=Fossa Egida
|ko=파수꾼의 동굴 최심부
|es=Sima Regia
}}
|
''Regigigas Chamber''
{{langtable|color={{MD Time color}}|bordercolor={{MD Darkness color dark}}
|fr=Antre Regigigas
|de=Regigigas-Kammer
|it=Sala Regigigas
|ko=레지기가스의 방
|es=Camara Regigigas
}}
|}

{{-}}
{{PMD2 locations}}
{{DoubleProjectTag|Locations|Sidegames}}

[[Category:Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 2 locations]]
[[Category:Caves]]
[[Category:Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky locations]]

[[de:Ägishöhle]]
[[fr:Grotte Egide]]
[[it:Grotta Egida]]
[[ja:ばんにんのどうくつ]]
[[zh:守护洞穴]]

Sky Peak Mountain Path

2016-12-15T11:58:13Z

Lmoamemesxd: 40 floors with 5th Station Clearing

{{Incomplete|2=Items, other encountered Pokémon, in other languages}}
{{DungeonPrevNext|Shaymin Village|Blizzard Island|3}}
{{Dungeon infobox
|colorscheme=MD Sky
|bordercolorscheme=MD Sky
|name=Sky Peak Mountain Path
|jname=そらのいただきとざんどう
|jtrans=Sky Summit Mountain Path
|image=Sky Peak Station Pass 1.png
|size=256px
|floors={{tt|40|1st-4th Station Pass with 3 floors each, 5th with 4 floors, 5th Station Clearing, 6th-8th with 4 floors each, 9th-10th with 5 floors each, and the summit}}
|rest=Yes{{tt|*|One between each Pass}}
|traps=Yes
|monsterhouses=Yes{{tt|*|Sky Peak Summit Pass floors 2-5 only}}
|maintype={{t|Grass}}{{tt|*|1st-5th Station Pass}} {{t|Normal}}, {{t|Fighting}}{{tt|*|6th Station-Summit Pass}} {{t|Poison}}{{tt|*|Summit}}
|boss={{P|Carnivine}} ×5 (5th Station, first visit) {{P|Muk}} ×3, {{p|Grimer}} ×5 (summit)
|recruitable=Yes
|items=48
|money=Allowed
|startlevel=Current
|teamsize=4
}}
The '''Sky Peak Mountain Path''' (Japanese: '''そらのいただきとざんどう''' ''Sky Summit Mountain Path'') is a path of ten very similar mystery dungeons only accessible in [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky]]. This mountain path of ten passes connecting nine stations leads to the summit of [[Sky Peak]], the mountain above [[Shaymin Village]].

The first nine passes are named '''1st Station Pass''' (Japanese: '''１ごうめまでのみちのり''' ''Path to the 1st Station'') to '''9th Station Pass''' (Japanese: '''９ごうめまでのみちのり''' ''Path to the 9th Station''), while the tenth pass is known as the '''Sky Peak Summit Pass''' (Japanese: '''ちょうじょうまでのみちのり''' ''Path to the Summit''). Each pass has between three and five floors each. [[Sky Gift]]s can be found here. The Pokémon in these dungeons begin with Pokémon generally found in [[Mystifying Forest]] in the first dungeons, and gradually phasing them out for Pokémon generally found on [[Mt. Travail]]. Players can find Hidden Stairs leading to a floor with [[Treasure box]]es. On the Summit Pass, there is a chance of fog, and the [[Secret Bazaar]] and [[Monster House]]s may appear on floors 2-5.

A player can only go through this series of dungeons after defeating [[Primal Dialga]] and graduating from [[Wigglytuff's Guild]]. In the first playthrough of these dungeons, a {{p|Shaymin}} comes with the player. After the first visit, this will unlock the [[Sky Jukebox]].

When reaching the summit for the first time, the place will be covered with filth. To clear it the player needs to defeat three {{p||Muk}} and five {{p|Grimer}}. The Shaymin accompanying the player then absorbs the filth and cleans the place. [[Team|Team Frontier]], a team including a {{p|Machoke}}, {{p|Mawile}}, and a {{p|Breloom}}, helps fight the Muk and Grimer during the first visit.

==Stations==
At the end of each Pass, the player will reach a Station. Each Station has a [[Kangaskhan Rock]] with the ability both to save the game and, at the even-numbered Stations, to store items. The one exception is the 5th Station. Upon entering the 5th Station during the first visit, the player will encounter a group of hostile {{p|Carnivine}} which appear to be beating up a {{p|Sneasel}}. The player defeats these Pokémon with the help of [[Team|Team Frontier]]. On each following visit, the 5th station is completely empty.

In the even numbered Stations, there is a method of transport called [[Shaymin Village|Drifblim's Gondola]], where a {{p|Drifblim}} can transport the player instantly between that Station, any previous even numbered Station, and the base camp at [[Shaymin Village]]. The only exception to this is the 8th Station, where an {{p|Ampharos}} lives. After finishing the 8th Pass and going into the 9th Station for the second time, the {{p|Ampharos}} will give you a [[Sky Gift]] that the {{p|Sneasel}} the player helped left behind.

In many Stations a Pokémon may appear, giving the player a [[Sky Gift]]. Occasionally, at a Station, a Pokémon will be in need of an item. If you have said item, you can trade for an item the Pokémon is offering in return, or the Pokémon will return the favor by giving you an item at [[Spinda's Cafe]] later.

==Pokémon encountered==
===1st Station Pass===
{{mdloc/h|grass}}
{{mdloc|002|Ivysaur|1-3|40|-10}}
{{mdloc|011|Metapod|1-3|40|-10}}
{{mdloc|020|Raticate|1-3|42|-4.5}}
{{mdloc|070|Weepinbell|1-3|40|-10}}
{{mdloc|153|Bayleef|1-3|38|-10}}
{{mdloc|315|Roselia|1-3|40|6.4}}
{{mdloc|330|Flygon|1-3|40|-12}}
{{mdloc|389|Torterra|1-3|40|-12}}
{{mdloc|435|Skuntank|1-3|40|0.5}}
{{mdloc/f|grass}}

===2nd Station Pass===
{{mdloc/h|grass}}
{{mdloc|002|Ivysaur|1-3|40-41|-10}}
{{mdloc|011|Metapod|1-3|40-41|-10}}
{{mdloc|020|Raticate|1-3|42-43|-4.5}}
{{mdloc|070|Weepinbell|1-3|40-41|-10}}
{{mdloc|153|Bayleef|1-3|38-39|-10}}
{{mdloc|315|Roselia|1-3|40-41|6.4}}
{{mdloc|330|Flygon|1-3|40-41|-12}}
{{mdloc|389|Torterra|1-3|40-41|-12}}
{{mdloc|435|Skuntank|1-3|40-41|0.5}}
{{mdloc/f|grass}}

===3rd Station Pass===
{{mdloc/h|grass}}
{{mdloc|002|Ivysaur|1-3|41|-10}}
{{mdloc|011|Metapod|1-3|41|-10}}
{{mdloc|020|Raticate|1-3|43|-4.5}}
{{mdloc|070|Weepinbell|1-3|41|-10}}
{{mdloc|153|Bayleef|1-3|39|-10}}
{{mdloc|315|Roselia|1-3|41|6.4}}
{{mdloc|330|Flygon|1-3|41|-12}}
{{mdloc|389|Torterra|1-3|41|-12}}
{{mdloc|435|Skuntank|1-3|41|0.5}}
{{mdloc/f|grass}}

===4th Station Pass===
{{mdloc/h|grass}}
{{mdloc|002|Ivysaur|1-3|42|-10}}
{{mdloc|011|Metapod|1-3|42|-10}}
{{mdloc|020|Raticate|1-3|44|-4.5}}
{{mdloc|070|Weepinbell|1-3|42|-10}}
{{mdloc|107|Hitmonchan|1-3|42|-12}}
{{mdloc|153|Bayleef|1-3|40|-10}}
{{mdloc|315|Roselia|1-3|42|6.4}}
{{mdloc|330|Flygon|1-3|42|-12}}
{{mdloc|389|Torterra|1-3|42|-12}}
{{mdloc|435|Skuntank|1-3|42|0.5}}
{{mdloc|057|Primeape|2-3|42|-4.5}}
{{mdloc|217|Ursaring|2-3|42|-12}}
{{mdloc|400|Bibarel|2-3|42|3.5}}
{{mdloc/f|grass}}

===5th Station Pass===
{{mdloc/h|grass}}
{{mdloc|011|Metapod|1-3|42|-10}}
{{mdloc|002|Ivysaur|1-4|42|-10}}
{{mdloc|020|Raticate|1-4|44|-4.5}}
{{mdloc|057|Primeape|1-4|42|-4.5}}
{{mdloc|070|Weepinbell|1-4|42|-10}}
{{mdloc|107|Hitmonchan|1-4|42|-12}}
{{mdloc|153|Bayleef|1-4|40|-10}}
{{mdloc|217|Ursaring|1-4|42|-12}}
{{mdloc|315|Roselia|1-4|42|6.4}}
{{mdloc|330|Flygon|1-4|42|-12}}
{{mdloc|389|Torterra|1-4|42|-12}}
{{mdloc|400|Bibarel|1-4|42|3.5}}
{{mdloc|435|Skuntank|1-4|42|0.5}}
{{mdloc|022|Fearow|4|42|-4.5}}
{{mdloc/f|grass}}

===5th Station Clearing===
{{mdloc/h|grass}}
{{mdloc|455|Carnivine|Clearing|?|0|boss=yes}}
{{mdloc/f|grass|Five Carnivine form the boss of 5th Station Clearing}}

===6th Station Pass===
{{mdloc/h|normal|fighting}}
{{mdloc|002|Ivysaur|1-3|42|-10}}
{{mdloc|020|Raticate|1-3|44|-4.5}}
{{mdloc|070|Weepinbell|1-3|42|-10}}
{{mdloc|153|Bayleef|1-3|40|-10}}
{{mdloc|315|Roselia|1-3|42|6.4}}
{{mdloc|330|Flygon|1-3|42|-12}}
{{mdloc|389|Torterra|1-3|42|-12}}
{{mdloc|022|Fearow|1-4|42-43|-4.5}}
{{mdloc|057|Primeape|1-4|42-43|-4.5}}
{{mdloc|107|Hitmonchan|1-4|42-43|-12}}
{{mdloc|162|Furret|1-4|42-43|-4.5}}
{{mdloc|217|Ursaring|1-4|42-43|-12}}
{{mdloc|400|Bibarel|1-4|42-43|3.5}}
{{mdloc|435|Skuntank|1-4|42-43|0.5}}
{{mdloc/f|grass}}

===7th Station Pass===
{{mdloc/h|normal|fighting}}
{{mdloc|022|Fearow|1-4|43|-4.5}}
{{mdloc|057|Primeape|1-4|43|-4.5}}
{{mdloc|107|Hitmonchan|1-4|43|-12}}
{{mdloc|162|Furret|1-4|43|-4.5}}
{{mdloc|217|Ursaring|1-4|43|-12}}
{{mdloc|400|Bibarel|1-4|43|3.5}}
{{mdloc|435|Skuntank|1-4|43|0.5}}
{{mdloc/f|grass}}

===8th Station Pass===
{{mdloc/h|normal|fighting}}
{{mdloc|435|Skuntank|1|43|0.5}}
{{mdloc|022|Fearow|1-4|43|-4.5}}
{{mdloc|057|Primeape|1-4|43|-4.5}}
{{mdloc|105|Marowak|1-4|43|-4.5}}
{{mdloc|107|Hitmonchan|1-4|43|-12}}
{{mdloc|162|Furret|1-4|43|-4.5}}
{{mdloc|217|Ursaring|1-4|43|-12}}
{{mdloc|292|Shedinja|1-4|45|-12}}
{{mdloc|400|Bibarel|1-4|43|3.5}}
{{mdloc/f|grass}}

===9th Station Pass===
{{mdloc/h|normal|fighting}}
{{mdloc|400|Bibarel|1-2|43|3.5}}
{{mdloc|022|Fearow|1-5|43-44|-4.5}}
{{mdloc|057|Primeape|1-5|43-44|-4.5}}
{{mdloc|105|Marowak|1-5|43-44|-4.5}}
{{mdloc|107|Hitmonchan|1-5|43-44|-12}}
{{mdloc|162|Furret|1-5|43-44|-4.5}}
{{mdloc|217|Ursaring|1-5|43-44|-12}}
{{mdloc|292|Shedinja|1-5|45-46|-12}}
{{mdloc/f|grass}}

===Sky Peak Summit Pass===
{{mdloc/h|normal|fighting}}
{{mdloc|022|Fearow|1-5|44|-4.5}}
{{mdloc|057|Primeape|1-5|44|-4.5}}
{{mdloc|105|Marowak|1-5|44|-4.5}}
{{mdloc|107|Hitmonchan|1-5|44|-12}}
{{mdloc|162|Furret|1-5|44|-4.5}}
{{mdloc|217|Ursaring|1-5|44|-12}}
{{mdloc|292|Shedinja|1-5|46|-12}}
{{mdloc/f|fighting}}

===Sky Peak Summit===
{{mdloc/h|poison}}
{{mdloc|088|Grimer|Summit|?|0|boss=yes}}
{{mdloc|089|Muk|Summit|?|0|boss=yes}}
{{mdloc/f|poison}}

==Items==
{{DungeonItem/h|grass}}
{{DungeonItem|Poké|4=2-212|??|sprite=Poké currency}}
{{DungeonItem|Power Band|Scarf|??}}
{{DungeonItem|Zinc Band|Scarf|??}}
{{DungeonItem|Cheri Berry|Cheri Berry|??}}
{{DungeonItem|Oran Berry|Oran Berry|??}}
{{DungeonItem|Pecha Berry|Pecha Berry|??}}
{{DungeonItem|Chesto Berry|Chesto Berry|??}}
{{DungeonItem|Apple|Apple|??}}
{{DungeonItem|Blast Seed|Seed|??}}
{{DungeonItem|Dough Seed|Seed|??}}
{{DungeonItem|Eyedrop Seed|Seed|??}}
{{DungeonItem|Heal Seed|Seed|??}}
{{DungeonItem|Totter Seed|Seed|??}}
{{DungeonItem|Violent Seed|Seed|??}}
{{DungeonItem|Max Elixir|Health drink|??}}
{{DungeonItem|Iron Thorn (4)|Iron Thorn|??}}
{{DungeonItem|All-Hit Orb|Wonder Orb|??}}
{{DungeonItem|Luminous Orb|Wonder Orb|??}}
{{DungeonItem|Petrify Orb|Wonder Orb|??}}
{{DungeonItem|Radar Orb|Wonder Orb|??}}
{{DungeonItem|Rollcall Orb|Wonder Orb|??}}
{{DungeonItem|Scanner Orb|Wonder Orb|??}}
{{DungeonItem|Trapbust Orb|Wonder Orb|??}}
{{DungeonItem|Warp Orb|Wonder Orb|??}}
{{DungeonItem/f|grass}}

==Traps encountered==
{| class="roundy" style="text-align:center; background: #{{grass color}}; margin-left: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; border: 3px solid #{{grass color dark}}"
|-
! style="background: #{{grass color light}}; {{roundytl|5px}}"| Image
! style="background: #{{grass color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}"| Trap
|- style="background: #FFF"
| [[File:ChestnutTrap.png]]
| Chestnut Trap
|- style="background: #FFF"
| [[File:SelfdestructTrap.png]]
| Selfdestruct Trap
|- style="background: #FFF"
| [[File:WarpTrap.png]]
| Warp Trap
|- style="background: #FFF"
| [[File:SlowTrap.png]]
| Slow Trap
|- style="background: #FFF"
| [[File:SpinTrap.png]]
| Spin Trap
|- style="background: #FFF"
| [[File:PokémonTrap.png]]
| Pokémon Trap
|- style="background: #FFF"
| [[File:SlumberTrap.png]]
| Slumber Trap
|- style="background: #FFF"
| [[File:SummonTrap.png]]
| Summon Trap
|- style="background: #FFF"
| [[File:GustTrap.png]]
| Gust Trap
|- style="background: #FFF"
| [[File:PoisonTrap.png]]
| Poison Trap
|-
| style="background: #FFF; {{roundybl|5px}}" | [[File:TripTrap.png]]
| style="background: #FFF; {{roundybr|5px}}" | Trip Trap
|}

==Trivia==
* Interestingly, if {{p|Giratina}} enters this dungeon, it will not be in [[List of Pokémon with form differences#Giratina|Altered Forme]] but will be instead in it's Origin Forme. This trait is shared with [[Destiny Tower]] and [[Star Cave]].

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BW001

2016-12-01T23:25:50Z

Lmoamemesxd: "Steaks of electricity".

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'''In the Shadow of Zekrom!''' (Japanese: '''イッシュ地方へ！ゼクロムの影！！''' ''To the {{tt|Isshu|Unova}} Region! Zekrom's Shadow!!'') is the first episode of the {{series|Best Wishes}}, and the 658th episode of the [[Pokémon anime]]. It first aired in Japan, as part of a one-hour special along with [[BW002]], on September 23, 2010, and in the United States on February 12, 2011, alongside ''Enter Iris and Axew!'' as a one-hour special.

==Blurb==

Ash excitedly arrives in the Unova region along with Pikachu, his mom, and Professor Oak. Meanwhile, Team Rocket's boss, Giovanni, has given them an important assignment in the Unova region. As Jessie, James, and Meowth prepare for their new assignment, Professor Oak introduces Ash to Professor Juniper, one of the top researchers in Unova.

Suddenly, a dark storm cloud appears, and Pikachu is hit with a massive amount of electricity! Professor Juniper does a quick examination of Pikachu, but she doesn't seem to find anything wrong. Later on, however, when Ash battles a budding new Trainer named Trip and his first Pokémon Snivy, Pikachu can't use any Electric-type moves!

Back at Professor Juniper's lab, we learn that Pikachu is still suffering the effects of the lightning strike during the thunderstorm. Just as Professor Juniper reaches her conclusion, the same dark cloud appears as suddenly as before! The professor then recounts the story of the Legendary Pokémon Zekrom, and everyone wonders if it could be responsible for the mysterious disappearance of Pikachu's Electric-type powers. Will Pikachu ever be able to use those powers again?

==Plot==
{{spoilers}}

The episode begins as {{p|Zekrom}} and {{p|Reshiram}} make their appearance. Their black and white colors swirl and fade into the shape of the Earth, and the narrator begins to explain about the [[Pokémon world|world of Pokémon]].

The narrator recaps that {{Ash}} is a ten-year old [[Pokémon Trainer]] who aims to become a [[Pokémon Master]]. He lives in [[Pallet Town]], which resides in the [[Kanto]] region, alongside {{AP|Pikachu}}, his partner. He runs into his bedroom, grabs his [[bag|backpack]], and hurriedly runs out. As he returns to retrieve his {{AP|hat}}, he expresses his excitement to Pikachu about their upcoming vacation. [[Delia Ketchum|Ash's mother]] then walks into the room, informing him that {{an|Professor Oak}} has arrived to pick them up, whilst proceeding to adjust his hat with a smile.

Professor Oak is waiting outside in a beige open-roofed vehicle, sporting a colorful collared shirt with [[Pinap Berry]] printings. Ash jokingly questions Professor Oak on his style of clothing, but he simply expresses his wish to "have a feel of being on vacation". Ash's mom then inquires about Professor Oak having to work in [[Unova]], but he tells her that he has quite a bit of free time when he is not attending seminars. Ash and his mom then join him in the car.

Meanwhile, within one of [[Team Rocket]]'s bases, {{an|Giovanni}} questions [[Jessie]], [[James]], and {{MTR}} about Team Rocket's goals: to obtain strong and rare Pokémon, and to form a formidable army of Pokémon to take over the world. He then tells the trio that the Unova region will be strong foothold for their world domination plans, and has given them the important mission of infiltrating the region. He also adds that for now, the trio will be entering the region alone. The trio accepts the mission.

After the reception is cut, Giovanni leans back in his chair and tends to his {{TP|Giovanni|Persian}}. [[Matori|His secretary]] appears by his side and informs him about the operations of a mysterious organization in Unova, but Giovanni does not flinch. He is, after all, confident that Jessie, James and Meowth will force this organization in question to reveal their identities and operations, allowing them to strike at the opportune moment. He just leans back and takes a drink, smiling.

Ash, together with his mother and Professor Oak are now on board a plane heading to Unova. Unbeknownst to them, Jessie, James and Meowth are on board the same plane as well as they were told by Giovanni earlier to go there for their mission. Dressed in dark coats and speaking in hushed voices, they spot Ash and his Pikachu and decide, on the spot, to capture Pikachu as their first objective once they land as they got distracted.

Meanwhile, Ash is reading a brochure on the Unova region. Professor Oak tells him that the Pokémon native to Unova cannot be found in any of the other regions, namely [[Kanto]], [[Johto]], [[Hoenn]] and [[Sinnoh]], and Ash becomes extremely excited.

Emerging from the clouds, the plane finally arrives at the Unova region. It makes a gradual turn, slowly descends into the sea and docks near a pier. Ash expresses relief after landing and together with his mother and Professor Oak, they make their way out of the pier. Pikachu suddenly detects something, stops, and turns to face the sea. After a while, he runs forward and scans his surroundings, his attention now focused on the dark spiraling cloud looming overhead. Ash, witnessing Pikachu's odd behavior, turns back to question him. However, an {{p|Alomomola}} near the edge of the pier jumps out and draws his attention, and Ash, together with Pikachu, rushes towards the edge. The Team Rocket trio then appears behind them, grinning with evil intentions.

Ash reaches the end of the pier and searches for the Alomomola, but it seemed to have disappeared. He then notices the same ominous black cloud that Pikachu had previously spotted, surging with erratic bolts of electricity and moving even closer towards the pier.

Suddenly, seemingly out of nowhere, a metallic frame reaches out behind Pikachu, expands, and cages him within its sturdy confines. Pikachu is now trapped! As fast as he could, Ash grabs the cage and tries to pry it open. He then caught sight of Pikachu's captors: three figures dressed in black coats topped with dark hats and sunglasses. Upon asking who the three of them were because of their disguises, they replied with two lines that would signal the start of their {{DL|Team Rocket mottos|Unova|motto}}, and revealed themselves: Team Rocket!

Ash tells Pikachu to use {{m|Thunderbolt}}, but it fails to shock the trio as they open a shield to deflect the electric attack. At the same time, the swirling black cloud draws even closer, threatening to engulf the sky in darkness. As increasing amount of blue lightning bolts shot downwards, people nearby begin to notice. A central glowing core shone through the clouds, its blue light gleaming in magnificent contrast to the stark blackness around it. Suddenly, a large bolt of lightning descends, shattering Team Rocket's Pikachu-capturing contraption and sending them flying. Ash and Pikachu were sent spiraling towards to the ground.

Meanwhile, electronic equipment and visual displays around the area start to malfunction.

Ash lies sprawled on the ground, his eyes trying to recover from the shock that had just happened. Amidst the shining flecks of blue and white light surrounding him, he gets up and spots Pikachu being zapped by a bolt of blue lightning. Curious, he looks up at the blue core, and notices it shining even brighter than before, radiating both light and electricity. While Team Rocket backs off slowly, Pikachu aims a bolt of lightning at the central blue core. However, the electricity appeared to have been absorbed by the clouds and dissipated away entirely, seemingly doing nothing of significant importance.

The silhouette of a large, mysterious figure is seen within the clouds, its eyes glowing red with apparent fury. Seemingly enraged by Pikachu's attack, it summons forth more lightning, causing the core to glow an exceedingly intense blue.

Amidst the broad daylight, a {{an|Iris|girl}} and her {{TP|Iris|Axew}} pop out from a tree and notice the dark swirling clouds at a distance. Curious, she leaps from the tree and grabs a vine, swinging her way towards the disturbance. At the same time, Ash's mom became concerned about her son, and heads off with Professor Oak to see if he is all right.

The dark clouds are now intense with lightning as raw streaks of electricity pour out from the sides into the surrounding area. With Ash and Pikachu trapped in the middle of the violent storm, the mysterious figure henceforth musters it strength and summons a gigantic bolt of blue lightning with its tail, shocking the Pokémon Trainer and his companion before disappearing. Immediately, the dark clouds cleared to make way for the bright blue sky above, and electronic equipment in the area mysteriously regain power.

Ash wakes up to find Pikachu exhausted from the ordeal. Joined by his mother and Professor Oak, he assures them that he is all right, but suddenly notices Pikachu's cheeks randomly and spontaneously emitting sparks. Pikachu, however, assures Ash that he's fine and climbs onto his shoulder. Ash's mom then starts talking about the thunderstorm. Even though Ash told them that he saw a Pokémon's shadow from within the clouds, they were not able to confirm nor argue otherwise; from their point of view, they only saw a large black thundercloud.

[[Professor Juniper]] soon arrives, apologizing for being late. Professor Oak introduces her as a young, but very important [[Pokémon Researcher]] in Unova. Professor Juniper then drives the group back to her laboratory in a red SUV. On the way, Ash expresses his sheer excitement as he spots a herd of {{p|Deerling}}, a flock of {{p|Pidove}} and a scurry of {{p|Patrat}} within the area. All of a sudden, Pikachu's cheeks start emitting sparks, and Professor Juniper suggests giving Pikachu a check-up at her lab. Ash agrees. At that moment, Professor Juniper became curious about Pokémon in the Kanto region, and requests Professor Oak to tell her more later. Ash interrupts her conversation and asks if {{p|Pikachu}} are rare in Unova, and she replies by saying that they have never been encountered in the wild. The SUV makes a gradual turn to the right near a lake, and Ash watches a flock of {{p|Swanna}} fly across the water.

Eventually, the group arrives at [[Nuvema Town]]. Driving past a group of children playing in the streets with their {{p|Minccino}}, Professor Juniper heads straight for her lab. Over there, Pikachu's condition is being monitored on a screen and a few tests have already been performed. After being told that the numerical data do not show any discrepancies, Ash and Pikachu express their delight. However, as more tests will have to be conducted to gather more data, Pikachu became slightly disappointed at the thought of having to go through more of them. In a short moment, a lab assistant enters the room, announcing the arrival of a new Trainer that was scheduled to meet Professor Juniper on this day. Professor Oak then explains that Professor Juniper has the duty of giving new Trainers in Unova their [[starter Pokémon]], just as he does for the new Trainers in Kanto. This makes Ash excited.

In the waiting area, a young boy is taking pictures with his camera. Addressing him as [[Trip]] as she approaches, Professor Juniper breaks into a conversation with him about the Pokémon World. Ash interrupts the conversation, talking about how excited he was the night before he became a Pokémon Trainer. Professor Juniper then introduces him to Trip. Upon learning that Ash came from Pallet Town, he smirks and passes it off as some mediocre town from the countryside, which Ash took to offense.

As Professor Juniper tries to calm the two Trainers and prevent them from fighting, she sends out the three starter Pokémon, first starting with the {{type|Fire}} {{p|Tepig}}. Ash told it that it was 'cool,' but the Fire Pig Pokémon ignored him and ran to the side of the waiting area, blowing a small puff of fire from its snout. Next, the {{type|Water}} {{p|Oshawott}} was sent out, and Ash calls it, to the Sea Otter Pokémon's amusement, 'cute', causing the Sea Otter Pokémon to blush. Lastly, the {{type|Grass}} {{p|Snivy}} was sent out. The three Pokémon then assembled in front of Trip, allowing him to decide which one he wanted to take along with him. After a moment of deliberation, Trip takes out his camera, snaps a quick picture of the three, and then announces that he would choose Snivy. The Grass Snake Pokémon smirks, leaving Tepig slightly annoyed and Oshawott extremely shocked.

As is standard for beginning trainers, Trip is also given a [[Pokédex]] which he uses to check the data of his new partner. He is also given five [[Poké Ball]]s, along with Snivy's Poké Ball. After recalling Snivy into his Poké Ball, he thanks Professor Juniper and takes his leave.

While Trip walks away from the lab, Ash catches up to him and questions him about [[Gym]] matches in Unova. Similar to Kanto, a Pokémon Trainer in Unova has to collect eight [[badge|Gym Badges]] before he or she can compete in the [[Unova League]]. At that moment, Pikachu runs out from the lab (after the tests are complete) and rejoins Ash. Completely shocked by Pikachu's appearance, Trip checks his Pokédex and starts snapping pictures. Trip then realizes that Pikachu is Ash's partner and decides to test the Electric Mouse's strength by challenging Ash to a [[Pokémon battle]].

In a clearing near the lab, Trip sends out Snivy, and Ash calls on Pikachu. Trip then starts taking pictures, so as to document his journey and his first ever Pokémon battle. Meanwhile, Oshawott curiously peeks at the two Trainers from behind a nearby tree.

Pikachu begins the battle with a {{m|Quick Attack}}, which hits Snivy squarely on its body. Snivy quickly recovers on its feet, its eyes brimming with determination. Quickly, Trip commands it to use {{m|Tackle}}, but Pikachu dodges it skilfully. With another leap, he then dodges another Tackle attack from the opposite direction.

Ash then tells Pikachu to use {{m|Thunderbolt}}. Pikachu charges up, but then finds he is unable to perform the attack before bring hit by Snivy's Tackle and getting sent rolling across the ground. For a second time, Pikachu was told to use Thunderbolt, but the move fails once again. Trip then taunts Ash. Taking the bait, he asks Pikachu to use {{m|Volt Tackle}} and Pikachu runs towards Snivy attempting to charge himself up as usual, but once again nothing happens; he loses momentum and stops in the middle of the field, panting. Ash panics for a moment, allowing Trip to taunt him even further. He then realizes that Pikachu is unable to use {{t|Electric}}-based attacks, and instead commands him to use {{m|Iron Tail}}. Thankfully, Pikachu is still able to use Iron Tail as normal, and the Mouse Pokémon's tail hardens into a gleaming slate of metal and slams it earthward, but Snivy nevertheless dodges it once again.

With a bout of confidence, Trip tells Snivy to use {{m|Leaf Tornado}}, and a cyclone of grass and leaves comes forth from Snivy's tail, pulling and trapping Pikachu in the center of the vortex. Ash and Oshawott both gasp simultaneously. Pivoting its body, Snivy slams its tail to the ground, whipping up a smokescreen of dust that spread across the field, preventing the outcome of the attack from being seen. Oshawott watches attentively.

As the dust settles, a long, wide hole is seen on the ground, and Pikachu lies sprawled at the end and on his belly, unconscious. Ash quickly runs to Pikachu's side and picks him up, while Trip compliments his Snivy and recalls it into its Poké Ball. He then proceeds to taunt Ash again, but the defeated Trainer merely runs off towards Professor Juniper's lab, the injured Pikachu held tightly in his arms.

Professor Juniper, after another analysis, tells Ash that Pikachu is 'overloaded' after receiving a massive amount of electrical energy during their ordeal under the mysterious black cloud. As a result, Pikachu was unable to use Electric attacks. Ash then expresses his concern over Pikachu being unable to use Electric attacks ever again.

At that moment, the lab's electronics started receiving a lot of interference, and the black cloud that was spotted previously at the pier was now moving over Professor Juniper's lab. The equipment Pikachu is hooked up to begins discharging, shocking the Electric Mouse Pokémon.

Meanwhile, the girl  and her Axew which had appeared before now stands quietly within the leafy branches of a tree, observing the black cloud forming above Nuvema Town.

A bolt of lightning suddenly strikes the lightning rod at the top of the lab, and the building blacks out. Excessive current from the lightning bolt channels to Pikachu through the electronic device, causing the streaks of electricity to discharge from his body. Professor Juniper asks the assistant in the room to restore the power, and he runs out of the room, forcing the automatic door open in his wake (Oshawott peeps through the door). Meanwhile, gazing at the black cloud through the window, Professor Juniper talks about the legendary Pokémon Zekrom, a guardian that is said to protect both people and Pokémon in the area. The huge cloud represents its watchful eye as a divine being, and the lightning bolts, which also acts as supports for the sky, represent the hammer of judgment.

Within the cloud, the wings of the mysterious figure began glowing a bright blue, and numerous large bolts of electricity began to snake out into the lab through Pikachu, causing the {{t|Electric}} Pokémon much pain and suffering. Meanwhile, the large storm cloud had already washed the city in darkness, and Zekrom's eyes, gleaming through the surrounding darkness in bright red, stood out against its curled-up silhouette like a jewel in the night sky.
{{endspoilers}}

==Major events==
* {{Ash}} and {{AP|Pikachu}} travel with {{Delia}} and {{an|Professor Oak}} to the [[Unova]] region, where Professor Oak is attending a conference.
* Ash learns that all of the Pokémon that live in the Unova region cannot be found in [[Kanto]], [[Johto]], [[Hoenn]], or [[Sinnoh]].
* {{TRT}} also arrive in the Unova region, having being assigned there by {{an|Giovanni}}.
* Ash meets [[Professor Juniper]].
* Pikachu becomes temporarily unable to use Electric-type attacks after being hit by lightning caused by {{p|Zekrom}}.
* Ash meets a photographer and beginning {{pkmn|Trainer}} by the name of [[Trip]].
* Trip obtains a {{p|Snivy}} from Professor Juniper, then battles [[Ash's Pikachu]] and wins.
* The {{AP|Oshawott}} from [[Professor Juniper]]'s lab starts to follow {{Ash}}.
{{animeevents}}

===Debuts===
====Humans====
* {{an|Iris}}
* [[Professor Juniper]]
* [[Trip]]

====Pokémon debuts====
* Starter Pokémon of Unova:
** {{p|Snivy}} ({{OP|Trip|Snivy}})
** {{p|Tepig}} ([[Professor Juniper#Gives to new Trainers|Juniper]]'s)
** {{p|Oshawott}} ([[Ash's Oshawott|Juniper's]])
* {{p|Reshiram}}
* {{p|Zekrom}} ({{DL|Recurring wild Pokémon in the anime|Zekrom|anime}})
* {{p|Alomomola}}
* {{p|Axew}} ({{OP|Iris|Axew}})
* {{p|Deerling}}
* {{p|Pidove}}
* {{p|Patrat}}
* {{p|Swanna}}
* {{p|Minccino}}

==Characters==
===Humans===
* {{Ash}}
* {{an|Iris}}
* [[Jessie]]
* [[James]]
* {{an|Professor Oak}}
* [[Delia Ketchum]]
* {{an|Giovanni}}
* [[Professor Juniper]]
* [[Trip]]
* [[Matori]]
* Professor Juniper's assistants
* Airport employees
* Citizens

===Pokémon===
[[File:WTP BW001.png|thumb|200px|right|Who's That Pokémon?]]
[[Who's That Pokémon?]]: {{p|Pidove}}

* {{p|Pikachu}} ({{OP|Ash|Pikachu}})
* {{p|Meowth}} ({{TRM}})
* {{p|Axew}} ({{OP|Iris|Axew}}, debut)
* {{p|Snivy}} ({{OP|Trip|Snivy}}, new, debut)
* {{p|Persian}} ({{OP|Giovanni|Persian}})
* {{p|Reshiram}} (introduction only, debut)
* {{p|Zekrom}} ({{DL|Recurring wild Pokémon in the anime|Zekrom|anime}}; debut)
* {{p|Alomomola}} (debut)
* {{p|Deerling}} (Spring form; multiple, debut)
* {{p|Pidove}} (multiple, debut)
* {{p|Patrat}} (multiple, debut)
* {{p|Swanna}} (multiple, debut)
* {{p|Minccino}} (child's, debut)
* {{p|Tepig}} ([[starter Pokémon]], debut)
* {{AP|Oshawott}} ([[Ash's Oshawott|starter Pokémon]], debut)

==Trivia==
[[File:BW eyecatch.png|thumb|200px|right|Eyecatch 1]]
[[File:BW eyecatch 2.png|thumb|200px|right|Eyecatch 2]]
[[File:Ash Room.png|thumb|right|200px|Ash's room]]
* [[Professor Oak's Pokémon Live Caster]]: Unova starter Pokémon.
** This Pokémon Live Caster was moved to [[BW003]] on the first airing, due to BW001-[[BW002]] airing as a one-hour special.
* ''{{so|Best Wishes!}}'' replaced ''[[The Greatest - Everyday!|The Greatest - Everyday! (BAND VERSION)]]'' as the [[List of Japanese opening themes|Japanese opening theme]].
* The Japanese TV airing of this episode and [[BW002|the following one]] did not include an ending theme. On DVD releases, ''[[Fanfare of the Heart]]'' replaced ''[[In Your Heart, LaLaLa]]'' as the [[List of Japanese ending themes|Japanese ending theme]].
* This episode marks the first time that the first episode of a [[series]] has focused solely on {{Ash}} since ''[[EP001|Pokémon - I Choose You!]]''.
* According to the narration at the beginning of the episode, Ash is still 10 years old, despite the fact the anime has been airing for over thirteen years at this point.
** In ''[[EP063|The Battle of the Badge]]'', the line about not being in Viridian City for one year was a dub added line. In the original, it was only stated that it had been a "long time" since the group had been in Viridian.
** In ''[[PK07|Pikachu and Pichu]]'', Ash didn't say a year has passed when he said "This is the day we first met. The day we first became friends." However, it implies it has been a year, and the canonity of that short, as well as all the Pikachu shorts, is brought into question.
** In ''[[DP003|When Pokémon Worlds Collide!]]'', when {{MTR}} said they had been chasing {{AP|Pikachu}} for as long as {{an|Dawn}} had been alive (ten years) was probably an exaggeration, or maybe due to breaking the fourth wall.
* For the first time since the series began, Ash receives a physical redesign, with the most significant change being his irises being made larger to match [[Ken Sugimori]]'s recent character art. [[Jessie]], [[James]], and {{Delia}}'s eyes are also similarly modified.
* Also, for the first time since the series began, Jessie, James and {{an|Giovanni}} are given costume changes, and the [[Team Rocket]] logo is also modified, now showing as a stylized "R". However, the logo on the uniforms of Jessie and James remain the same.
* The first scene of this episode of Ash getting ready in his bedroom is a callback to the first scene of ''[[EP001|Pokémon - I Choose You!]]'' in which he was seen doing the same thing.
* Several of the items in Ash's bedroom at the beginning of the episode are those he received during his travels through [[Sinnoh]]. These are:
** The {{DL|Out-of-battle effect item|Soothe Bell}}s he received after winning the [[Hearthome City Tag Battle Competition]] in ''[[DP052|Smells Like Team Spirit!]]''.
** The [[Focus Band]] he was given at the end of ''[[DP057|Bibarel Gnaws Best!]]''.
** The wooden model of a {{p|Teddiursa}} he was given as a gift from {{an|May}} in ''[[DP076|A Full Course Tag Battle!]]''.
** The diploma he received for attending the [[Pokémon Summer Academy]] in ''[[DP091|One Team, Two Team, Red Team, Blue Team!]]''.
** The certificate he received for winning the [[Squallville]] [[PokéRinger]] competition in ''[[DP118|Pursuing a Lofty Goal!]]''.
** The trophy he was awarded by {{FB|Tower Tycoon|Palmer}} for winning the [[Twinleaf Festival]]'s Festival Battle Challenge in ''[[DP141|Challenging a Towering Figure!]]''.
* This is the [[AG001|second time]] Ash has arrived in a new region and Pikachu has had problems with its electricity, the first being [[Hoenn]].
* Two new [[eyecatch]]es were shown.
** The first one featured Ash wearing his ''Best Wishes'' clothes with his Pikachu standing alongside him and {{p|Zekrom}}'s head in the background.
** The other one was also similar to the first one, but featuring Ash with his Pikachu on his shoulder instead and {{p|Reshiram}}'s head in the background.
* The flight number of the plane Ash took from Kanto to Unova was "Flight 151", most likely to reflect the original 151 Pokémon.
* The English dub of this episode aired as a one-hour special along with ''[[BW002|Enter Iris and Axew!]]'' making it the first time more than one new episode premiered during the same day since ''[[DP050|Tag! We're It...!]]'', ''[[DP051|Glory Blaze!]]'' and ''[[DP052|Smells Like Team Spirit!]]'' aired together back on February 1, 2008.
* This is the first episode to feature [[Who's That Pokémon?]] since [[4Kids]] removed it almost [[AG040|seven years before]].
** This is also the first episode dubbed by [[The Pokémon Company International]] to use an [[eyecatch]].
* This is the first episode to use music from ''[[M12|Arceus and the Jewel of Life]]'', after Trip defeats Ash.
* The dub of this episode confirmed the localized name of [[Nuvema Town]].
* This episode, like BW002, was aired in Italy on DisneyXD one day after the American airing.
** This marks the first time an episode is aired in Italy one day after the American airing.
* In early previews of this episode aired on [[DP191]], some changes were seen in relation to the episode aired. The scene from first battle between Ash and Trip initially went to a location within the city and not in a forest around the lab (the result of the battle although shows that it is the same).
* Team Rocket doesn't recite the {{motto}} making it the first time not to do so in the Unova region.
* This is the only episode past ''[[EP146|Tricks of the Trade]]'' where Jessie does not have a {{type|Psychic}} on hand.
* In the title opening introduced in this episode, there are six Poké Balls that are in the same order as they would be when healing in a [[Pokémon Center]] in {{game|Black and White|s}}.
* The shirt that Professor Oak is seen wearing at the beginning of the episode (with the pineapple pattern) is extremely similar to the one he wore in ''[[EP018|Beauty and the Beach]]'', the only difference being that the shirt was yellow in that episode while it is green in this one.

===Errors===
[[File:BW001 Error.png|thumb|200px|right|Coloring error on Pikachu's left ear]]
* In one scene, Pikachu's left ear is missing the black stripe on the tip.
* In the {{pmin|South Asia|Hindi dub}} when Professor Oak says "Sinnoh" he pronounces it wrong by saying ''soineh''.

===Dub edits===
*In the control tower scene, the controller clears the plane to land in the dub, while in the original he merely announces that the flight will be arriving soon.

==In other languages==
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|da={{tt|I Zekrom's Skygge!|In the Shadow of Zekrom!}}
|de={{tt|Im Schatten von Zekrom!|In the shadow of Zekrom!}}
|el={{tt|Στη Σκιά του Zekrom!|In The Shadow of Zekrom!}}
|nl={{tt|In de schaduw van Zekrom!|In the shadow of Zekrom!}}
|fi={{tt|Zekromin varjossa!|In the shadow of Zekrom!}}
|id={{tt|Ke Daerah Unova! Bayangan Zekrom!!|To the Unova Region! Zekrom's Shadow!!}}
|it={{tt|All' ombra di Zekrom! |In the shadow of Zekrom!}}
|no={{tt|I Zekroms skygge!|In Zekrom's shadow!}}
|es_eu={{tt|Bajo la sombra de Zekrom|Under the shadow of Zekrom}}
|es_la={{tt|¡A La Sombra de Zekrom!|In the Shadow of Zekrom!}}
|pl={{tt|W cieniu Zekroma!|In the shadow of Zekrom!}}
|pt_br={{tt|Na Sombra de Zekrom!|In The Shadow of Zekrom!}}
|pt_eu={{tt|Na Sombra do Zekrom!|In The Shadow of Zekrom!}}
|ru={{tt|В тени Зекрома!|In The Shadow of Zekrom!}}
|bg={{tt|В Сянката на Зекром!|In the shadow of Zekrom!}}
|sv={{tt|I Zekroms skugga!|In the shadow of Zekrom!}}
|th={{tt|มุ่งสู่ภูมิภาคอิชู! เงื้อมเงาแห่งเซคุโรมุ!!|To the Isshu Region! Zekrom's Shadow!!}}
|ko={{tt|하나지방과 제크로무의 어두운 그림자!|Unova and the dark shadow of Zekrom!}}
|vi={{tt|Đến Vùng Isshu! Cái Bóng Của Zekrom!!|To the Isshu Region! Zekrom's Shadow!!}}
|tr={{tt|Zekrom'un Gölgesinde!|In the shadow of Zekrom!}}
|hi=Zekrom के साये में! {{tt|''Zekrom ke Saye me!''|In the Shadow of Zekrom!}}
|sr={{tt|U senci Zekroma!|In the shadow of Zekrom!}}
|hr={{tt|U sjeni Zekroma!|In the shadow of Zekrom!}}
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Aerial Ace (move)

2016-12-01T23:23:02Z

Lmoamemesxd: Peppered the steaks of white light.

{{MoveInfobox
|n=332
|name=Aerial Ace
|jname=つばめがえし
|jtrans=Swallow Return
|jtranslit=Tsubamegaeshi
|gameimage=Aerial Ace.png
|gameimagewidth=300
|type=Flying
|damagecategory=Physical
|basepp=20
|maxpp=32
|power=60
|accuracy=—
|gen=III
|tm3=yes
|tm#3=40
|tm4=yes
|tm#4=40
|tm5=yes
|tm#5=40
|tm6=yes
|tm#6=40
|tm7=yes
|tm#7=40
|na=no
|category=Cool
|appeal=2
|jam=0
|cdesc=The appeal works great if performed first.
|appealsc=2
|scdesc=Earn +2 if the Pokémon performs first in the turn.
|appeal6=2
|jam6=0
|cdesc6=Works great if the user goes first this turn.
|pokefordex=Aerial%20Ace
|touches=yes
|protect=yes
|magiccoat=no
|snatch=no
|mirrormove=yes
|kingsrock=yes
|flag7=no
|flag8=no
|sound=no
|target=any
|footnotes= }}
'''Aerial Ace''' (Japanese: '''つばめがえし''' ''{{wp|Sasaki Kojirō#Swallow Cut|Swallow Return}}'') is a damage-dealing {{type|Flying}} [[move]] introduced in [[Generation III]]. It has been [[TM40]] since Generation III.

==Effect==
===Generations III and IV===
Aerial Ace inflicts damage and bypasses {{stat|accuracy}} checks to always hit, unless the opponent is in the {{cat|Moves with a semi-invulnerable turn|semi-invulnerable turn}} of a move such as {{m|Dig}} or {{m|Fly}}.

===Generation V===
Aerial Ace can hit non-adjacent opponents in [[Triple Battle]]s.

==Description==
{{movedesc|Flying}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev3|RSE}}{{gameabbrevss|Colo}}{{gameabbrevss|XD}}|An extremely speedy and unavoidable attack.{{tt|*|Move}} An extremely fast attack that can't be avoided.{{tt|*|TM}}}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev3|FRLG}}|An extremely fast attack against one target. It can't be evaded.}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev4|DPPtHGSS}}|The user confounds the foe with speed, then slashes. The attack lands without fail.{{tt|*|Move}} The user confounds the foe with speed, then strikes. The attack lands without fail.{{tt|*|TM}}}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev5|BWB2W2}}|The user confounds the target with speed, then slashes. The attack lands without fail.}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrev6|XYORAS}} {{gameabbrev7|SM}}|The user confounds the target with speed, then slashes. This attack never misses.}}
|}
|}{{left clear}}

==Learnset==
===By [[Level|leveling up]]===
{{Movehead/Level|Flying|3}}
{{Moveentry/5|021|Spearow|1|Flying|Flying|25|17|17|17|15|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|022|Fearow|1|Flying|Flying||17|17|17|15|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|083|Farfetch'd|2|Flying|Field||13|13|9|9|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|214|Heracross|1|Bug|Bug||13|13{{sup/5|BW}} 10{{sup/5|B2W2}}|10|10}}
{{Moveentry/5|276|Taillow|1|Flying|Flying|34|34|34|34{{sup/6|XY}} 21{{sup/6|ORAS}}|21|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|277|Swellow|1|Flying|Flying|38|38|38|38{{sup/6|XY}} 21{{sup/6|ORAS}}|21|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|278|Wingull|2|Water 1|Flying||42|42|42{{sup/6|XY}} 29{{sup/6|ORAS}}|29|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|396|Starly|1|Flying|Flying||25|25|25|25|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|397|Staravia|1|Flying|Flying||28|28|28|28|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|398|Staraptor|1|Flying|Flying||28|28|28|28|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|475|Gallade|1|Amorphous|Amorphous|||||17}}
{{Moveentry/5|580|Ducklett|2|Water 1|Flying|||15|15|15|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|581|Swanna|2|Water 1|Flying|||15|15|15|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|627|Rufflet|1|Flying|Flying|||23|23|23|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|628|Braviary|1|Flying|Flying|||23|23|23|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|673|Gogoat|1|Field|Field||||1, 65|1}}
{{Moveentry/5|679|Honedge|1|Mineral|Mineral||||22|22}}
{{Moveentry/5|680|Doublade|1|Mineral|Mineral||||22|22}}
{{Moveentry/5|681|Aegislash|1|Mineral|Mineral||||1|1}}
{{Moveentry/5|701|Hawlucha|1|Human-Like|Human-Like||||16|16|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|772|Type: Null|1|Undiscovered|Undiscovered|||||20|STAB=''}}
{{Moveentry/5|773|Silvally|1|Undiscovered|Undiscovered|||||20|STAB=''}}
{{Moveentry/5|798|Kartana|1|Undiscovered|Undiscovered|||||23}}
{{Movefoot|Flying}}
===By [[TM]]===
{{Movehead/TM|Flying|3|no|no|TM40|TM40|TM40|TM40|TM40}}
{{Moveentry/5|004|Charmander|2|Monster|Dragon|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|STAB=''}}
{{Moveentry/5|005|Charmeleon|2|Monster|Dragon|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|STAB=''}}
{{Moveentry/5|006|Charizard|2|Monster|Dragon|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|012|Butterfree|1|Bug|Bug|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|015|Beedrill|1|Bug|Bug|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|016|Pidgey|1|Flying|Flying|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|017|Pidgeotto|1|Flying|Flying|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|018|Pidgeot|1|Flying|Flying|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|021|Spearow|1|Flying|Flying|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|022|Fearow|1|Flying|Flying|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|027|Sandshrew|1|Field|Field|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|028|Sandslash|1|Field|Field|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|029|Nidoran♀|2|Monster|Field|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|030|Nidorina|1|Undiscovered|Undiscovered|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|031|Nidoqueen|1|Undiscovered|Undiscovered|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|041|Zubat|1|Flying|Flying|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|042|Golbat|1|Flying|Flying|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|046|Paras|2|Bug|Grass|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|047|Parasect|2|Bug|Grass|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|049|Venomoth|1|Bug|Bug|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|050|Diglett|1|Field|Field|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|051|Dugtrio|1|Field|Field|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|052|Meowth|1|Field|Field|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|053|Persian|1|Field|Field|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|054|Psyduck|2|Water 1|Field|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|055|Golduck|2|Water 1|Field|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|056|Mankey|1|Field|Field|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|057|Primeape|1|Field|Field|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|058|Growlithe|1|Field|Field|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|059|Arcanine|1|Field|Field|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|080|Slowbro|2|Monster|Water 1|||✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|083|Farfetch'd|2|Flying|Field|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|084|Doduo|1|Flying|Flying|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|085|Dodrio|1|Flying|Flying|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|104|Cubone|1|Monster|Monster|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|105|Marowak|1|Monster|Monster|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|115|Kangaskhan|1|Monster|Monster|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|122|Mr. Mime|1|Human-Like|Human-Like||✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|123|Scyther|1|Bug|Bug|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|137|Porygon|1|Mineral|Mineral|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|140|Kabuto|2|Water 1|Water 3|✔||}}
{{Moveentry/5|141|Kabutops|2|Water 1|Water 3|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|142|Aerodactyl|1|Flying|Flying|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|144|Articuno|1|Undiscovered|Undiscovered|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|145|Zapdos|1|Undiscovered|Undiscovered|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|146|Moltres|1|Undiscovered|Undiscovered|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|149|Dragonite|2|Water 1|Dragon|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|150|Mewtwo|1|Undiscovered|Undiscovered|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|151|Mew|1|Undiscovered|Undiscovered|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|155|Cyndaquil|1|Field|Field|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|156|Quilava|1|Field|Field|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|157|Typhlosion|1|Field|Field|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|158|Totodile|2|Monster|Water 1|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|159|Croconaw|2|Monster|Water 1|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|160|Feraligatr|2|Monster|Water 1|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|163|Hoothoot|1|Flying|Flying|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|164|Noctowl|1|Flying|Flying|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|165|Ledyba|1|Bug|Bug|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|166|Ledian|1|Bug|Bug|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|169|Crobat|1|Flying|Flying|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|176|Togetic|2|Flying|Fairy|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|177|Natu|1|Flying|Flying|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|178|Xatu|1|Flying|Flying|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|187|Hoppip|2|Fairy|Grass|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|188|Skiploom|2|Fairy|Grass|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|189|Jumpluff|2|Fairy|Grass|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|190|Aipom|1|Field|Field|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|193|Yanma|1|Bug|Bug|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|198|Murkrow|1|Flying|Flying|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|200|Misdreavus|1|Amorphous|Amorphous|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|207|Gligar|1|Bug|Bug|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|212|Scizor|1|Bug|Bug|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|214|Heracross|1|Bug|Bug||✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|215|Sneasel|1|Field|Field|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|216|Teddiursa|1|Field|Field|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|217|Ursaring|1|Field|Field|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|225|Delibird|2|Water 1|Field|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|226|Mantine|1|Water 1|Water 1|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|227|Skarmory|1|Flying|Flying|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|233|Porygon2|1|Mineral|Mineral|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|237|Hitmontop|1|Human-Like|Human-Like||✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|248|Tyranitar|1|Monster|Monster|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|249|Lugia|1|Undiscovered|Undiscovered|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|250|Ho-Oh|1|Undiscovered|Undiscovered|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|251|Celebi|1|Undiscovered|Undiscovered|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|252|Treecko|2|Monster|Dragon|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|253|Grovyle|2|Monster|Dragon|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|254|Sceptile|2|Monster|Dragon|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|255|Torchic|1|Field|Field|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|256|Combusken|1|Field|Field|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|257|Blaziken|1|Field|Field|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|267|Beautifly|1|Bug|Bug|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|269|Dustox|1|Bug|Bug|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|275|Shiftry|2|Field|Grass|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|276|Taillow|1|Flying|Flying|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|277|Swellow|1|Flying|Flying|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|278|Wingull|2|Water 1|Flying|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|279|Pelipper|2|Water 1|Flying|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|284|Masquerain|2|Water 1|Bug|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|287|Slakoth|1|Field|Field|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|288|Vigoroth|1|Field|Field|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|289|Slaking|1|Field|Field|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|290|Nincada|1|Bug|Bug|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|STAB=''}}
{{Moveentry/5|291|Ninjask|1|Bug|Bug|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|292|Shedinja|1|Mineral|Mineral|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|302|Sableye|1|Human-Like|Human-Like|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|304|Aron|1|Monster|Monster|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|305|Lairon|1|Monster|Monster|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|306|Aggron|1|Monster|Monster|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|313|Volbeat|2|Bug|Human-Like|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|314|Illumise|2|Bug|Human-Like|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|330|Flygon|1|Bug|Bug||✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|333|Swablu|2|Flying|Dragon|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|334|Altaria|2|Flying|Dragon|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|335|Zangoose|1|Field|Field|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|341|Corphish|2|Water 1|Water 3|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|342|Crawdaunt|2|Water 1|Water 3|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|347|Anorith|1|Water 3|Water 3|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|348|Armaldo|1|Water 3|Water 3|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|352|Kecleon|1|Field|Field|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|357|Tropius|2|Monster|Grass|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|359|Absol|1|Field|Field|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|371|Bagon|1|Dragon|Dragon|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|STAB=''}}
{{Moveentry/5|372|Shelgon|1|Dragon|Dragon|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|STAB=''}}
{{Moveentry/5|373|Salamence|1|Dragon|Dragon|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|375|Metang|1|Mineral|Mineral|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|376|Metagross|1|Mineral|Mineral|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|379|Registeel|1|Undiscovered|Undiscovered|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|380|Latias|1|Undiscovered|Undiscovered|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|381|Latios|1|Undiscovered|Undiscovered|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|383|Groudon|1|Undiscovered|Undiscovered|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|384|Rayquaza|1|Undiscovered|Undiscovered|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|385|Jirachi|1|Undiscovered|Undiscovered|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|386|Deoxys|1|Undiscovered|Undiscovered|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|390|Chimchar|2|Field|Human-Like||✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|391|Monferno|2|Field|Human-Like||✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|392|Infernape|2|Field|Human-Like||✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|393|Piplup|2|Water 1|Field||✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|394|Prinplup|2|Water 1|Field||✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|395|Empoleon|2|Water 1|Field||✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|396|Starly|1|Flying|Flying||✔|✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|397|Staravia|1|Flying|Flying||✔|✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|398|Staraptor|1|Flying|Flying||✔|✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|402|Kricketune|1|Bug|Bug||✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|414|Mothim|1|Bug|Bug||✔|✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|416|Vespiquen|1|Bug|Bug||✔|✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|424|Ambipom|1|Field|Field||✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|429|Mismagius|1|Amorphous|Amorphous||✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|430|Honchkrow|1|Flying|Flying||✔|✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|431|Glameow|1|Field|Field||✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|432|Purugly|1|Field|Field||✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|441|Chatot|1|Flying|Flying||✔|✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|443|Gible|2|Monster|Dragon||✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|444|Gabite|2|Monster|Dragon||✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|445|Garchomp|2|Monster|Dragon||✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|451|Skorupi|2|Bug|Water 3||✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|452|Drapion|2|Bug|Water 3||✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|458|Mantyke|1|Undiscovered|Undiscovered||✔|✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|461|Weavile|1|Field|Field||✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|465|Tangrowth|1|Grass|Grass||✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|468|Togekiss|2|Flying|Fairy||✔|✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|469|Yanmega|1|Bug|Bug||✔|✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|470|Leafeon|1|Field|Field||✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|472|Gliscor|1|Bug|Bug||✔|✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|474|Porygon-Z|1|Mineral|Mineral||✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|475|Gallade|1|Amorphous|Amorphous||✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|483|Dialga|1|Undiscovered|Undiscovered||✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|484|Palkia|1|Undiscovered|Undiscovered||✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|486|Regigigas|1|Undiscovered|Undiscovered||✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|487|Giratina|1|Undiscovered|Undiscovered||✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|491|Darkrai|1|Undiscovered|Undiscovered||✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|493|Arceus|1|Undiscovered|Undiscovered||✔|✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|495|Snivy|2|Field|Grass|||✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|496|Servine|2|Field|Grass|||✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|497|Serperior|2|Field|Grass|||✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|501|Oshawott|1|Field|Field|||✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|502|Dewott|1|Field|Field|||✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|503|Samurott|1|Field|Field|||✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|506|Lillipup|1|Field|Field|||✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|507|Herdier|1|Field|Field|||✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|508|Stoutland|1|Field|Field|||✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|509|Purrloin|1|Field|Field|||✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|510|Liepard|1|Field|Field|||✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|519|Pidove|1|Flying|Flying|||✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|520|Tranquill|1|Flying|Flying|||✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|521|Unfezant|1|Flying|Flying|||✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|527|Woobat|2|Field|Flying|||✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|528|Swoobat|2|Field|Flying|||✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|529|Drilbur|1|Field|Field|||✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|530|Excadrill|1|Field|Field|||✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|542|Leavanny|1|Bug|Bug|||✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|553|Krookodile|1|Field|Field|||✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|556|Maractus|1|Grass|Grass|||✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|557|Dwebble|2|Bug|Mineral|||✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|558|Crustle|2|Bug|Mineral|||✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|561|Sigilyph|1|Flying|Flying|||✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|566|Archen|2|Flying|Water 3|||✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|567|Archeops|2|Flying|Water 3|||✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|570|Zorua|1|Field|Field|||✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|571|Zoroark|1|Field|Field|||✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|580|Ducklett|2|Water 1|Flying|||✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|581|Swanna|2|Water 1|Flying|||✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|587|Emolga|1|Field|Field|||✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|588|Karrablast|1|Bug|Bug|||✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|589|Escavalier|1|Bug|Bug|||✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|598|Ferrothorn|2|Grass|Mineral|||✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|610|Axew|2|Monster|Dragon|||✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|611|Fraxure|2|Monster|Dragon|||✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|612|Haxorus|2|Monster|Dragon|||✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|613|Cubchoo|1|Field|Field|||✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|614|Beartic|1|Field|Field|||✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|619|Mienfoo|2|Field|Human-Like|||✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|620|Mienshao|2|Field|Human-Like|||✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|621|Druddigon|2|Dragon|Monster|||✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|624|Pawniard|1|Human-Like|Human-Like|||✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|625|Bisharp|1|Human-Like|Human-Like|||✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|626|Bouffalant|1|Field|Field|||✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|627|Rufflet|1|Flying|Flying|||✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|628|Braviary|1|Flying|Flying|||✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|629|Vullaby|1|Flying|Flying|||✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|630|Mandibuzz|1|Flying|Flying|||✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|631|Heatmor|1|Field|Field|||✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|632|Durant|1|Bug|Bug|||✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|637|Volcarona|1|Bug|Bug|||✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|638|Cobalion|1|Undiscovered|Undiscovered|||✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|639|Terrakion|1|Undiscovered|Undiscovered|||✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|640|Virizion|1|Undiscovered|Undiscovered|||✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|641|Tornadus|1|Undiscovered|Undiscovered|||✔|✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|647|Keldeo|1|Undiscovered|Undiscovered|||✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|649|Genesect|1|Undiscovered|Undiscovered|||✔|✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|650|Chespin|1|Field|Field||||✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|651|Quilladin|1|Field|Field||||✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|652|Chesnaught|1|Field|Field||||✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|656|Froakie|1|Water 1|Water 1||||✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|657|Frogadier|1|Water 1|Water 1||||✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|658|Greninja|1|Water 1|Water 1||||✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|661|Fletchling|1|Flying|Flying||||✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|662|Fletchinder|1|Flying|Flying||||✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|663|Talonflame|1|Flying|Flying||||✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|666|Vivillon|1|Bug|Bug||||✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|673|Gogoat|1|Field|Field||||✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|674|Pancham|2|Field|Human-Like||||✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|675|Pangoro|2|Field|Human-Like||||✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|679|Honedge|1|Mineral|Mineral||||✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|680|Doublade|1|Mineral|Mineral||||✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|681|Aegislash|1|Mineral|Mineral||||✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|686|Inkay|2|Water 1|Water 2||||✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|687|Malamar|2|Water 1|Water 2||||✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|688|Binacle|1|Water 3|Water 3||||✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|689|Barbaracle|1|Water 3|Water 3||||✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|696|Tyrunt|2|Monster|Dragon||||✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|697|Tyrantrum|2|Monster|Dragon||||✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|701|Hawlucha|1|Human-Like|Human-Like||||✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|702|Dedenne|2|Field|Fairy||||✔|✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|714|Noibat|1|Flying|Flying||||✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|715|Noivern|1|Flying|Flying||||✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|717|Yveltal|1|Undiscovered|Undiscovered||||✔|✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|731|Pikipek|1|Flying|Flying|||||✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|732|Trumbeak|1|Flying|Flying|||||✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|733|Toucannon|1|Flying|Flying|||||✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|741|Oricorio|1|Flying|Flying|||||✔|STAB='''}}
{{Moveentry/5|732|Cutiefly|2|Bug|Fairy|||||✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|743|Ribombee|2|Bug|Fairy|||||✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|754|Lurantis|1|Grass|Grass|||||✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|759|Stufful|1|Field|Field|||||✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|760|Bewear|1|Field|Field|||||✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|766|Passimian|1|Field|Field|||||✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|768|Golisopod|2|Bug|Water 3|||||✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|772|Type: Null|1|Undiscovered|Undiscovered|||||✔|STAB=''}}
{{Moveentry/5|773|Silvally|1|Undiscovered|Undiscovered|||||✔|STAB=''}}
{{Moveentry/5|779|Bruxish|1|Water 2|Water 2|||||✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|781|Dhelmise|1|Mineral|Mineral|||||✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|782|Jangmo-o|1|Dragon|Dragon|||||✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|783|Hakamo-o|1|Dragon|Dragon|||||✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|784|Kommo-o|1|Dragon|Dragon|||||✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|785|Tapu Koko|1|Undiscovered|Undiscovered|||||✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|792|Lunala|1|Undiscovered|Undiscovered|||||✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|798|Kartana|1|Undiscovered|Undiscovered|||||✔}}
{{Moveentry/5|800|Necrozma|1|Undiscovered|Undiscovered|||||✔}}
{{Movefoot|Flying}}

===Special move===
====[[Generation IV]]====
{{Movehead/Special|Flying}}
{{Moveentry/1|142|Aerodactyl|1|Flying|Flying|[[Hayley's trades#Aerodactyl|My Pokémon Ranch]]|STAB='''}}
{{Movefoot|Flying}}

==In other games==
===[[Pokémon GO]]===
{{GoSpecialAttack
|id=45
|move=Aerial Ace
|image=no
|type=Flying
|pow=30
|segments=4
|duration=2.9
|crit=5
|users={{MSP|015|Beedrill}}{{MSP|016|Pidgey}}{{MSP|017|Pidgeotto}}{{MSP|018|Pidgeot}}{{MSP|021|Spearow}}{{MSP|022|Fearow}} {{MSP|083|Farfetch'd}}{{MSP|084|Doduo}}{{MSP|085|Dodrio}}
}}
Prior to an update to [[Niantic]]'s servers on July 30, Aerial Ace had a power of 25.

===Description===
{{movedesc|Flying}}
{{movedescentry|{{gameabbrevmd|RB}}|Inflicts damage on the target. It never misses.{{tt|*|Move}} It inflicts damage on the target. It never misses.{{tt|*|TM}}}}
|}
|}{{left clear}}

==In the anime==
{{moveanime|type=flying|exp=yes|gen=The user is engulfed by light and hits the opponent.|image1=Ursula Gabite Aerial Ace.png|image1p=Gabite|image2=Elesa Emolga Aerial Ace.png|image2p=Emolga|image3=Winona Swellow Aerial Ace.png|image3p=Swellow|image4=Ash Ash-Greninja Aerial Ace.png|image4p=Ash-Greninja}}
{{movep|type=flying|ms=277|pkmn=Swellow|method=Swellow flies at the opponent, flips in the air, then it becomes engulfed in streaks of white light and flies into the opponent, disappearing before hitting it.}}
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Winona|user1=Winona's Swellow|startcode=AG085|startname=Sky High Gym Battle!|notes=Debut}}
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Ash's Swellow|startcode=AG091|startname=Lessons in Lilycove}}
{{movep|type=flying|ms=017|pkmn=Pidgeotto|method=Pidgeotto flies at the opponent, flips in the air, then it becomes engulfed in streaks of white light and flies into the opponent, disappearing before hitting it.}}
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Vladimir|user1=Vladimir's Pidgeotto|startcode=AG090|startname=Pokéblock, Stock, and Berry}}
{{movep|type=flying|ms=334|pkmn=Altaria|method=Altaria disappears, then reappears behind the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Drake|user1=Drake's Altaria|startcode=AG101|startname=Vanity Affair}}
{{movep|type=flying|ms=059|pkmn=Arcanine|method=Arcanine runs at the opponent and its body becomes surrounded in white streaks. It jumps into the air, then tackles the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Dome Ace Tucker|user1=Tucker's Arcanine|startcode=AG153|startname=Tactics Theatrics!!}}
{{movep|type=flying|ms=275|pkmn=Shiftry|method=Shiftry jumps at the opponent and its body becomes surrounded by white streaks. It then flies into the opponent. While its body is surrounded by white streaks, Shiftry can fly through the air.}}
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Angela|user1=Angela's Shiftry|startcode=AG156|startname=From Cradle to Save!}}
{{movep|type=flying|ms=018|pkmn=Pidgeot|method=Pidgeot flies at the opponent and its body becomes surrounded by white streaks. It then slams into the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Solidad|user1=Solidad's Pidgeot|startcode=AG182|startname=Channeling the Battle Zone!}}
{{movep|type=flying|ms=291|pkmn=Ninjask|method=Ninjask's body glows white and it slams into the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Pyramid King Brandon|user1=Brandon's Ninjask|startcode=AG190|startname=Pace - The Final Frontier!}}
{{movep|type=flying|ms=396|pkmn=Starly|method=Starly dives at the opponent and white streaks surround its body. Starly then tackles the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Paul|user1=Paul's Starly|startcode=DP003|startname=When Pokémon Worlds Collide!}}
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Ash's Starly|startcode=DP013|startname=A Staravia is Born!}}
{{movep|type=flying|ms=397|pkmn=Staravia|method=Staravia flies at the opponent and its body becomes surrounded by white streaks. It then slams into the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Ash's Staravia|startcode=DP013|startname=A Staravia is Born!}}
{{movep|type=flying|ms=278|pkmn=Wingull|method=Wingull's body becomes surrounded by white streaks and it flies into the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Holly|user1=Holly's Wingull|startcode=DP050|startname=Tag! We're It...!}}
{{movep|type=flying|ms=267|pkmn=Beautifly|method=Beautifly flies into the air and does a flip. Then, its body becomes surrounded in white streaks and it slams into the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=flying|user=May's Beautifly|startcode=DP079|startname=Strategy With a Smile!}}
{{movep|type=flying|ms=430|pkmn=Honchkrow|method=Honchkrow's body becomes surrounded by white streaks and it flies down and slams into the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Paul's Honchkrow|startcode=DP100|startname=Aiding the Enemy!}}
{{movep|type=flying|ms=444|pkmn=Gabite|method=Gabite's body becomes surrounded by white streaks and it flies into the opponent multiple times.}}
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Ursula's Gabite|startcode=DP114|startname=Another One Gabites the Dust!}}
{{movep|type=flying|ms=398|pkmn=Staraptor|method=Staraptor flies at the opponent, back flips in the air, then dives down at the opponent, its body becoming surrounded by white streaks. It then slams into the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Ash's Staraptor|startcode=DP127|startname=Sliding Into Seventh!}}
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Narissa|user1=Narissa's Ditto One in the form of Staraptor|startcode=DP173|startname=Dealing With a Fierce Double Ditto Drama!|notes=Used via {{color2|{{flying color dark}}|Transform (move)|Transform}}}}
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Narissa|user1=Narissa's Ditto Two in the form of Staraptor|startcode=DP173|startname=Dealing With a Fierce Double Ditto Drama!|notes=Used via {{color2|{{flying color dark}}|Transform (move)|Transform}}}}
{{movep|type=flying|ms=470|pkmn=Leafeon|method=Leafeon's body becomes surrounded by white streaks and it slams into the opponent. As it is surrounded by white streaks, Leafeon flies through the air.}}
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Zoey|user1=Zoey's Leafeon|startcode=DP176|startname=Coming Full - Festival Circle!}}
{{movep|type=flying|ms=156|pkmn=Quilava|method=Quilava ignites the flames on its head and back and it jumps into the air. Its body then becomes surrounded in white streaks and it slams into the opponent. As the white streaks surround its body, Quilava can fly through the air.}}
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Ash's Quilava|startcode=DP183|startname=League Unleashed!}}
{{movep|type=flying|ms=520|pkmn=Tranquill|method=Tranquill dives down at the opponent and flaps its wings once. Once it does, it moves so fast it becomes a blur and it slams into the opponent twice.}}
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Trip|user1=Trip's Tranquill|startcode=BW010|startname=A Rival Battle for Club Champ!}}
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Dino|user1=Dino's Tranquill|startcode=BW041|startname=The Club Battle Hearts of Fury: Emolga Versus Sawk!}}
{{movep|type=flying|ms=587|pkmn=Emolga|method=Emolga flies into the air, then dives down towards the ground and shoots at the opponent, moving so fast that it becomes a blur. It then slams into the opponent two or more times.}}
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Elesa|user1=Elesa's Emolga|startcode=BW050|startname=Dazzling the Nimbasa Gym!}}
{{movep|type=flying|ms=521{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: H}} mod 2}}|0=|1=F}}|pkmn=Unfezant|method=Unfezant dives down at the opponent and flaps its wings once. Once it does, it moves so fast it becomes a blur and it slams into the opponent. Sometimes, Unfezant becomes outlined in white.}}
{{movemid|type=flying|ms=521|user=Skyla|user1=Skyla's Unfezant|startcode=BW068|startname=An Amazing Aerial Battle!}}
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Ash's Unfezant|startcode=BW068|startname=An Amazing Aerial Battle!}}
{{movep|type=flying|ms=614|pkmn=Beartic|method=Beartic jumps up with a high burst of speed with a clear aura around it, and hits the opponent. Beartic sometimes will charge forward with a high burst of speed with a clear aura around it, and hit the opponent twice.}}
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Brycen|user1=Brycen's Beartic|startcode=BW079|startname=Caution: Icy Battle Conditions!}}
{{movep|type=flying|ms=628|pkmn=Braviary|method=Braviary dives down at the opponent and flaps its wings once. Once it does, it moves so fast it becomes a blur and it slams into the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Soren and Rocko|user1=Soren's Braviary|startcode=BW099|startname=A Surface to Air Tag Battle Team!}}
{{movep|type=flying|ms=553|pkmn=Krookodile|method=Krookodile jumps up with a high burst of speed with a clear aura around it, and hits the opponent. Krookodile sometimes will charge forward with a high burst of speed with a clear aura around it, and hit the opponent twice.}}
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Ash's Krookodile|startcode=BW106|startname=Strong Strategy Steals the Show!}}
{{movep|type=flying|ms=657|pkmn=Frogadier|method=Frogadier jumps up with a high burst and dives on the opponent with a blue punch. It can follow up the attack with a series of kicks. Sometimes, Frogadier's arms turn into long blue knives, and repeatedly slashes the opponent with them.}}
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Ash's Frogadier|startcode=XY052|startname=A Stealthy Challenge!}}
{{movep|type=flying|ms=658A|pkmn=Greninja|method=Ash-Greninja's arms or legs glow light blue and it hits its opponent with them.}}
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Ash's Greninja|startcode=XY102|startname=Meeting at Terminus Cave!}}
{{movep|type=flying|ms=658|pkmn=Greninja|method=Greninja's arms or legs glow light blue and it hits its opponent with them. It may also use the light blue glow on its hands to create an "X" shaped energy slash that is also light blue and sends the slash towards its opponent.}}
{{movebtm|type=flying|user=Ash's Greninja|startcode=XY103|startname=A Cellular Connection!}}

==In the manga==
===In the Ash & Pikachu manga===
{{movemanga|type=flying|exp=yes|gen=The user slams its body into the opponent.|image1=Ash Swellow Aerial Ace AP.png|image1p=Swellow}}
{{movep|type=flying|ms=277|pkmn=Swellow|method=Swellow charges forward in the air and flies down into the opponent.}}
{{movebtmManga|type=flying|user=Ash's Swellow|startcode=SP29|startname=Battle Till The End! Drake, One Of The Elite Four!!|notes=Debut}}

===In the Be the Best! Pokémon B+W manga===
{{movemanga|type=flying|exp=yes|gen=The user slams its body into the opponent.|image1=Pokémon Ranger Swanna Aerial Ace PBW.png|image1p=Swanna}}
{{movep|type=flying|ms=581|pkmn=Swanna|method=Swanna charges at the opponent.}}
{{movebtmManga|type=flying|user=Pokémon Ranger (Trainer class)|user1=A Pokémon Ranger's Swanna|startcode=PBW3|startname=The Battle for More Friends!|notes=Debut}}

===In the Pokémon Adventures manga===
{{movemanga|type=flying|exp=yes|gen=The user slams its body into the opponent.|image1=Norman Vigoroth Aerial Ace Adventures.png|image1p=Vigoroth|image2=Rono Troppy Aerial Ace.png|image2p=Lairon and Tropius|image3=Brav Aerial Ace.png|image3p=Braviary|image4=Elesa Emolga Aerial Ace Adventures.png|image4p=Emolga}}
{{movep|type=flying|ms=288|pkmn=Vigoroth|method=Vigoroth charges at the opponent and delivers multiple slashes with its claws.}}
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Norman|user1=Norman's Vigoroth|startcode=PS186|startname=Brushing Past Breloom|notes=Debut}}
{{movep|type=flying|ms=305|pkmn=Lairon|method=Lairon lunges at the opponent and slashes it with its claws.}}
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Rono|user1=Sapphire's Rono|startcode=PS231|startname=Master Class with Masquerain}}
{{movep|type=flying|ms=357|pkmn=Tropius|method=Tropius charges at the opponent and smashes it with its neck.}}
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Troppy|user1=Sapphire's Troppy|startcode=PS231|startname=Master Class with Masquerain}}
{{movep|type=flying|ms=628|pkmn=Braviary|method=Braviary flies at the opponent and strikes it with one of its wings, or Braviary flies up into the sky and flies down into the opponent.}}
{{movemid|type=flying|user=Brav|user1=Black's Brav|startcode=PS464|startname=Black's First Trainer Battle}}
{{movep|type=flying|ms=587|pkmn=Emolga|method=Emolga charges at the opponent and strikes it with its arms.}}
{{movebtmManga|type=flying|user=Elesa|user1=Elesa's Emolga|startcode=PS484|startname=Battle on a Roller Coaster}}

* [[Chatler]] was revealed to know Aerial Ace in ''[[PS357|Magnificent Meditite & Really Riolu II]]'' but it was not shown using the move.

==In other generations==
{{Movegen
|type=Flying
|genIII=Aerial Ace III
|genIV=Aerial Ace IV
|BW=Aerial Ace BW
|B2W2=Aerial Ace B2W2
}}

{{Movegen
|type=Flying
|Colo=Aerial Ace Colo
|XD=Aerial Ace XD
}}

{{Movegen
|type=Flying
|PMDRB=Aerial Ace PMD RB
}}

==Trivia==
* This move is based on and named after {{wp|Sasaki Kojiro}}'s "{{wp|Sasaki Kojirō#Swallow Cut|Turning Swallow Cut}}" sword technique, so named due to its resemblance to the motion of a swallow's tail in flight, and is usually construed as a quick upward slash followed by a second one down the same direction, same as the move's animation.

==In other languages==
{{Langtable|color={{flying color}}|bordercolor={{flying color light}}
|zh_yue=燕返 ''{{tt|Yinfáan|Swallow Return}}'' {{tt|*|Games}} 迴轉攻 ''{{tt|Wùihjyúngūng|Revolving Attack}}'' {{tt|*|Anime, Adventures}}
|zh_cmn=燕返 ''{{tt|Yànfǎn|Swallow Return}}'' {{tt|*|Games}} 迴轉攻 / 回转攻 ''{{tt|Huízhuǎngōng|Revolving Attack}}'' {{tt|*|Anime, Adventures}}
|da=Flyveres
|nl=Luchttroef
|fi=Taivasässä
|fr=Aéropique
|de=Aero-Ass
|el=Εναέριος Ελιγμός ''Enaérios Eligmós''
|hi=हवाई हमला ''Havaee Hamla''
|it=Aeroassalto
|ko=제비반환 ''Jebi Banhwan''
|pl=Powietrzny As
|pt_br=Golpe Aéreo Ás dos Ares ({{series|XY}}, TCG, and manga)
|pt_eu=Às Aéreo ({{series|Advanced Generation}}) Perícia Aérea ({{series|Diamond & Pearl}})
|ro=As de Aer Asul Atmosferic
|ru=Воздушный ас ''Vozdushnyy as'' Высший Пилотаж ''Vysshiy Pilotazh''{{tt|*|Pokémon.com}}
|sr=Vazdušni As
|es_eu=Golpe Aéreo
|es_la=As Elevado ([[AG085]]) As Aéreo ([[AG090]]-[[DP156]], [[BW010]]-present) Golpe Aéreo ([[DP164]]-[[DP191]])
|tr=Hava Saldırısı
}}
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Pokémon of myth

2016-12-01T23:18:19Z

Lmoamemesxd: Diagla to Dialga.

{{unknown name}}
{{redirect|Dragon trio|the trio introduced in [[Generation V]]|Tao trio}}
[[File:Dialga-Palkia-Giratina.png|thumb|right|250px|Palkia, Giratina and Dialga at the Spear Pillar (art by [[Ken Sugimori]])]]
The '''creation trio''' is a fan term used to refer to three powerful Legendary Pokémon of the [[Sinnoh]] region: {{p|Dialga}}, {{p|Palkia}}, and {{p|Giratina}}. Other fan terms include '''deity trio''' and '''dragon trio'''. According to [[Sinnoh myths]], they were created by {{p|Arceus}} simultaneously when the universe began.

In [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions|Diamond, Pearl]] and [[Pokémon Platinum Version|Platinum]] only, Dialga and Palkia were referenced as "mythical Pokémon" with a lowercase ''M'', seemingly a subset of rather than a distinct group from Legendary; it should be noted that this was prior to the use of the term Mythical with a capital ''M'' from Generation V and onwards, and was a translation of '''神話のポケモン''' ''mythical Pokémon'' rather than '''幻のポケモン''' ''Illusory Pokémon'', the latter of which is referenced by the currently-used English term Mythical.

Much like members of other Legendary trios, the three Pokémon have similar appearances. Each has {{t|Dragon}} as their secondary type, as well as a [[base stats|base stat total]] of {{cat|Pokémon with a base stat total of 680|680}}, divided among the stats as 150-120-120-100-100-90, in different orders.

Each of the members of this trio, including its [[trio master]] {{p|Arceus}}, have control over their own [[dimensions]]. Dialga controls time and Palkia controls space, two aspects of the [[wp:spacetime|four-dimensional universe]] that the [[Pokémon world]], like our own, is a part of. Giratina has control over antimatter and the [[Distortion World]], where time does not flow and space is unstable, while Arceus has its own world where the [[Hall of Origin]] is located.

The three members of this trio share the Ability {{a|Pressure}}, as well as the Hidden Ability {{a|Telepathy}}—however, Giratina's [[List of Pokémon with form differences#Giratina|Origin Forme]] has {{a|Levitate}}. Likewise, the three are the [[game mascot]]s of the three [[Generation IV]] [[Sinnoh]]-based games, and have similar level-up learnsets.

The creation trio makes another appearance in {{game|HeartGold and SoulSilver|s}}. An event involving [[Cynthia]] and {{p|Arceus}} at the [[Sinjoh Ruins]] will allow a single one of the three to be obtained at [[level]] 1.

==Similar movesets==
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|-
! style="background:#{{dragon color dark}}; {{roundytl|5px}}" | {{color2|{{dragon color light}}|Level|Lv.}}
| style="background:#{{steel color light}}" | [[File:483Dialga.png|96px]] {{pcolor|Dialga|504f4f}} {{typecolor|Steel}}{{typecolor|Dragon}}
| style="background:#{{water color light}}" | [[File:484Palkia.png|96px]] {{pcolor|Palkia|47587e}} {{typecolor|Water}}{{typecolor|Dragon}}
| style="background:#{{ghost color light}}; {{roundytr|5px}}" | [[File:487Giratina-Origin.png|96px]] {{pcolor|Giratina|413953}} {{typecolor|Ghost}}{{typecolor|Dragon}}
|-
| rowspan="2" style="text-align:right; background:#{{dragon color dark}}" | {{color|9F77FF|1}}
| colspan="3" style="background:#{{dragon color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Dragon Breath|{{dragon color dark}}}}'''
|-
| colspan="3" style="background:#{{normal color light}}" | ''{{mcolor|Scary Face|{{normal color dark}}}}''
|-
| style="text-align:right; background:#{{dragon color dark}}" | {{color|9F77FF|6}}
| style="background:#{{steel color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Metal Claw|{{steel color dark}}}}'''
| style="background:#{{water color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Water Pulse|{{water color dark}}}}'''
| style="background:#{{ghost color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Ominous Wind|{{ghost color dark}}}}'''
|-
| style="text-align:right; background:#{{dragon color dark}}" | {{color|9F77FF|10}}
| colspan="3" style="background:#{{rock color light}}" | {{mcolor|Ancient Power|{{rock color dark}}}}
|-
| style="text-align:right; background:#{{dragon color dark}}" | {{color|9F77FF|15}}
| colspan="3" style="background:#{{normal color light}}" | {{mcolor|Slash|{{normal color dark}}}}
|-
| style="text-align:right; background:#{{dragon color dark}}" | {{color|9F77FF|19}}
| colspan="2" style="background:#{{rock color light}}" | {{mcolor|Power Gem|{{rock color dark}}}}
| style="background:#{{ghost color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Shadow Sneak|{{ghost color dark}}}}'''
|-
| style="text-align:right; background:#{{dragon color dark}}" | {{color|9F77FF|24}}
| style="background:#{{steel color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Metal Burst|{{steel color dark}}}}'''
| style="background:#{{water color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Aqua Tail|{{water color dark}}}}'''
| style="background:#{{ghost color light}}" | ''{{mcolor|Destiny Bond|{{ghost color dark}}}}''
|-
| style="text-align:right; background:#{{dragon color dark}}" | {{color|9F77FF|28}}
| colspan="3" style="background:#{{dragon color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Dragon Claw|{{dragon color dark}}}}'''
|-
| style="text-align:right; background:#{{dragon color dark}}" | {{color|9F77FF|33}}
| colspan="3" style="background:#{{ground color light}}" | {{mcolor|Earth Power|{{ground color dark}}}}
|-
| style="text-align:right; background:#{{dragon color dark}}" | {{color|9F77FF|37}}
| colspan="3" style="background:#{{fighting color light}}" | {{mcolor|Aura Sphere|{{fighting color dark}}}}
|-
| style="text-align:right; background:#{{dragon color dark}}" | {{color|9F77FF|42}}
| style="background:#{{steel color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Iron Tail|{{steel color dark}}}}'''
| style="background:#{{water color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Aqua Tail|{{water color dark}}}}'''
| style="background:#{{ghost color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Shadow Claw|{{ghost color dark}}}}'''
|-
| style="text-align:right; background:#{{dragon color dark}}" | {{color|9F77FF|46}}
| style="background:#{{dragon color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Roar of Time|{{dragon color dark}}}}'''
| style="background:#{{dragon color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Spacial Rend|{{dragon color dark}}}}'''
| style="background:#{{ghost color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Shadow Force|{{ghost color dark}}}}'''
|-
| style="text-align:right; background:#{{dragon color dark}}" | {{color|9F77FF|50}}
| style="background:#{{steel color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Flash Cannon|{{steel color dark}}}}'''
| style="background:#{{water color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Hydro Pump|{{water color dark}}}}'''
| style="background:#{{ghost color light}}" | '''{{mcolor|Hex|{{ghost color dark}}}}'''
|-
| colspan="4" style="background:#{{dragon color dark}}; color: #{{dragon color light}}; {{roundybottom|5px}}"| Moves in '''bold''' are {{color2|9F77FF|Same-type attack bonus|STAB}}. Moves in ''italics'' do no damage.
|}{{-}}

==Base stat comparison==
{{quartetstats|dragon|483|Dialga|steel|100|120|120|150|100|90|484|Palkia|water|90|120|100|150|120|100|487|Giratina|form3=-Altered|ghost|150|100|120|100|120|90|487|Giratina|form4=-Origin|ghost|150|120|100|120|100|90}}

==In the games==
===Pokémon Diamond and Pearl===
In Diamond and Pearl, either Dialga or Palkia appears atop the [[Spear Pillar]], and after the defeat of the [[Elite Four]], the {{player}} can find Giratina hidden at the end of a puzzle in [[Turnback Cave]].


===Pokémon Platinum===
In Pokémon Platinum, both Dialga and Palkia appear in dimensional rifts atop the [[Spear Pillar]] after beating the [[Elite Four]]. Giratina appears in its Origin Forme in the [[Distortion World]] when first encountered, but if it is defeated or fled from, it will appear in [[Turnback Cave]] in its Altered Forme, after the [[Elite Four]].


===Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver===
One of the three Pokémon can be obtained in HeartGold and SoulSilver if the {{player}} has a level 100, fateful encounter [[event Pokémon|event]] {{p|Arceus}} by itself in his/her [[party]]. The {{player}} must go to the [[Sinjoh Ruins]] and speak with [[Cynthia]], and, after some time, Arceus will create a member of the creation trio which will be at level 1 and have a basic moveset.

===Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire===
In Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire, either Dialga or Palkia will appear in the [[Soaring in the sky#Dimensional Rifts|Dimensional Rift]] near [[Dewford Town]] depending on the version when the player has {{p|Uxie}}, {{p|Mesprit}}, and {{p|Azelf}} in his/her party when soaring in the sky. Giratina will appear in same Dimensional Rift if Dialga and Palkia are in the player's party.

==In the anime==
===In the main series===
[[File:Featured Pokémon M12.png|thumb|280px|Arceus and the creation trio in [[M12|the twelfth movie]]]]
Dialga and Palkia made their debut appearance in the movie ''[[M10|The Rise of Darkrai]]''. In this movie, their two worlds, the Temporal World and the Spatial World, collided, leading the two to mistakenly believe that they were intentionally invading each other's territory. As such, the two began to violently clash, causing large distortions between time and space in [[Alamos Town]]. However, Palkia sustained injury when one of the pearls on its arm was cracked. Palkia then took refuge in Alamos Town and also wound up transferring the town to the Spatial World. Dialga then appeared before it once Darkrai forced Palkia to reveal itself. The two then violently continued fighting in the town. Darkrai also intervened in their fight to protect the town, and Dialga and Palkia continued to fight with Darkrai involved, causing massive destruction around Alamos Town. However, Ash and Dawn soon activate the song Oracion on the [[Space-Time Tower]], which becalms Dialga and Palkia, prompting them to end their fight. Palkia then restores Alamos Town to its original state, and Dialga leaves.

The same Dialga appears again in ''[[M11|Giratina and the Sky Warrior]]'', along with Giratina. In this movie, it is revealed that the fighting between Dialga and Palkia in the previous movie caused many toxic clouds to appear in Giratina's [[Reverse World]]. Giratina, furious at the two for defiling its home, sought revenge on Dialga, attacking it violently near a lake and drawing it into the Reverse World. As the two battled, Dialga attempted to escape, but Giratina constantly kept pulling it in. However, the vortex caused by Giratina abducting Dialga ended up pulling a fearful Shaymin into the Reverse World on accident, who, in fear of the situation, used {{m|Seed Flare}} which opened up a portal, and Dialga escaped by locking Giratina into a time loop.

Giratina, seeking to regain its ability to traverse between the [[Pokémon world]] and the [[Reverse World]], sought after the particular Shaymin that enabled Dialga to escape. However, this Shaymin was under the impression that Giratina wanted to eat it and thus terrified of it. When Zero appeared, Shaymin forcibly opened up a portal using Seed Flare, in which Giratina regained the ability to traverse between the two worlds. Zero, in his goal to take control of the Reverse World, used a special machine to absorb Giratina's powers, which almost killed Giratina until Newton Graceland hacked the database. Giratina then struggled to stay alive until Shaymin then used Aromatherapy to restore Giratina to a healthy state. Giratina then helped along with Ash and Shaymin to defeat Zero, and when Shaymin opened a portal to help everyone escape, Giratina restrained Zero's ship and caused it to malfunction. It then helped Ash out of the Reverse World, but then flew away, to which Newton Graceland suspected must have meant that Dialga was nearby.

Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina all reappeared as well in ''[[M12|Arceus and the Jewel of Life]]''. When a harsh distortion appeared and almost got {{AP|Pikachu}} and {{TP|Dawn|Piplup}} abducted into the vortex, Sheena appeared on the scene and used her mysterious power to summon Dialga, who arrived and saved Pikachu and Piplup, then destroyed the vortex with {{m|Roar of Time}}. However, its presence drew in Giratina, who, still enraged at Dialga, appeared from the lake and violently attacked Dialga. When Sheena tried to communicate with it, its rage ended up making it unable to commune. However, Ash appeared and called out to Giratina, and when it recognized Ash, it calmed down. Then, Sheena communicated with Giratina, telling it that it has misunderstood Dialga and to not battle it. Giratina then returned to the Reverse World in peace. However, another distortion appeared and Dialga ended up being trapped in the vortex. Luckily enough, Palkia appeared and used {{m|Spacial Rend}} to destroy this vortex, then bent space around Dialga to get it out of the vortex safely. Sheena then thanked Dialga and Palkia, and the two left in peace.

In this movie, it was revealed that the harsh distortions in time and space, and the subsequent conflict between the creation trio, was caused by the awakening of Arceus. When Arceus awoke and prepared to judge humanity as revenge for Damos' supposed betrayal eras ago, Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina all fought to protect humanity from Arceus, with Palkia bending space to restrain Arceus, and Dialga sending Ash, his friends, and Sheena back into time to alter the chain of events. After history was changed and Arceus had restored Michina Town, the creation trio parted ways with Ash and his friends, and returned to their respective dimensions.

Dialga and Palkia made an appearance in ''[[DP152|The Battle Finale of Legend!]]'', where they are summoned by Cyrus by using the power of the {{an|lake guardians}} and the Adamant and Lustrous Orbs, and are controlled by the Red Chain to help Cyrus create his new universe. However, the lake guardians, along with their chosen three, Ash, Dawn, and Brock, help to free them of the Red Chain's control, and Dialga and Palkia then destroy Cyrus's universe and go into a fit of rage. However, the protagonists and the lake guardians combined help to quell their rage and the lake guardians send the two back to their dimensions. It is left ambiguous as to whether or not these are the same Dialga and Palkia that appeared in the movie canon.

Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina all made another major appearance in ''[[M18|Hoopa and the Clash of Ages]]'', where they are summoned by the entity of the Unbound Hoopa, along with Primal Kyogre, Primal Groudon, and Kyurem in order to terrorize Dessert City. They attacked the city under the control of the entity of Hoopa's Unbound form, fighting with Mega Latias, Mega Latios, and Mega Rayquaza in the process. Eventually, after they were freed from Hoopa's control, they helped in holding off a dimensional wall from consuming a large number of citizens in Dessert City. Afterwards, they left the scene and returned to their dimensions.

===In Pokémon Generations===
[[File:Creation trio PG.png|thumb|280px|The creation trio in [[Pokémon Generations]]]]
The creation trio appeared in ''[[PG11|The New World]]''. [[Cyrus]] first summoned Dialga and Palkia and controlled them with the [[Red Chain]]. After doing so, Giratina suddenly appeared from the Distortion World. Cyrus had Dialga and Palkia attack Giratina, but Giratina destroyed the Red Chains that were controlling them by using {{m|Shadow Ball}}. This freed them from Cyrus's control. Giratina then took Cyrus with it to the Distortion World and Cyrus ultimately decided to stay with Giratina.
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==In the manga==
===In the Pokémon Adventures manga===
At the end of the {{chap|Diamond & Pearl}}, both Dialga and Palkia are summoned by [[Cyrus]] at the [[Spear Pillar]] so that they can be forced to fight each other to create a new world. After Cyrus's plans are thwarted, Giratina appears and drags Cyrus, Dialga, and Palkia into the [[Distortion World]].

In the {{chap|Platinum|following chapter}}, Giratina serves as one of the main antagonists alongside [[Charon]].

Chronologically, the first appearance of the trio was during the {{chap|HeartGold & SoulSilver}}, where they were revived by {{p|Arceus}} to wreak havoc on humanity. After Arceus was calmed by {{adv|Gold}}, Giratina escaped to the Distortion World while Dialga and Palkia went to the Spear Pillar.

===In the Pokémon Diamond & Pearl Adventure! manga===
In this manga Dialga is more prominent than Palkia or Giratina. For [[Hareta]], one of the goals of his journey is to meet Dialga. Dialga also is the one summoned by Cyrus at the Spear Pillar. After Hareta stopped him, Palkia appeared.

Later, Hareta battles with Giratina in the [[Distortion World]].

==Gallery==
<gallery perrow=4>
Image:Spear Pillar Giratina Pt.png|The creation trio at the [[Spear Pillar]] in {{v2|Platinum}}
File:HGSS Unown Arceus event.png|At the [[Sinjoh Ruins]] with {{p|Arceus}}
File:Arceus create HGSS.png|Arceus creating a member of the trio
File:Dragon hatch HGSS.png|A member of the creation trio being hatched
</gallery>

==Trivia==
[[File:Shiny creation trio.png|thumb|Promotional artwork for an [[List of local English event Pokémon distributions in Generation V#Shiny creation trio|event distribution]] of the {{shiny}} versions of the trio]]
* Of the three, Palkia is the only member of its trio to share its type combination with {{p|Kingdra|another Pokémon}}.
* Giratina (in {{v2|Platinum}}), has its own unique battle music, is able to change forms (between [[List of Pokémon with form differences#Giratina|Altered Forme and Origin Forme]]), and has two different menu sprites. Also, Giratina is the only member whose {{game3|Platinum|box art}} differs from its official art released with {{2v2|Diamond|Pearl}}.
* No two members of the trio have the same number of legs. Even when one considers Giratina Origin Forme this remains true, as Origin Forme Giratina has no legs, Palkia has two, Dialga has four, and Altered Forme Giratina has six.
** Also, no two members have the same number of immunities. Palkia has none, Dialga has one, Giratina Altered Forme has two, and Origin Forme Giratina has three because of {{a|Levitate}}.
* The primary types of each of the trio are the specialty types of [[Pastoria Gym|three]] [[Hearthome Gym|different]] [[Canalave Gym|Gyms]] of Sinnoh, the only region that has Gyms of those types all together.
* All members of the creation trio lose the ability to learn {{m|Heal Block}} by level up in HeartGold and SoulSilver.
* As of {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}, the creation trio are the only Legendary Pokémon who do not learn any moves past level 50. Furthermore, they are the only Legendary trio in which all members can be legitimately obtained at level 1.
* The creation trio is the only Legendary trio composed of [[game mascot]]s which all have the same base stat total—{{p|Rayquaza}} has 10 points total more than {{p|Groudon}} and {{p|Kyogre}}, while {{p|Kyurem}} has either 20 points total less or more than {{p|Reshiram}} and {{p|Zekrom}}, depending on its form.
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Talk:Ethan (game)

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Lmoamemesxd: Signed

Hey, one of his opcional names is "Chris". [[User:Haruka uzumaki|Haruka uzumaki]] 16:01, 24 September 2007
:Only in Crystal, though. [[User:IIMarckus|IIMarckus]] 16:12, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, as you know, "Chris" can be a guy and a girl's name.--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 12:12, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

== HGSS ==
The Sunday preview confirmed him --[[User:Nick.|Nick.]], <sc>[[User talk:Nick.|something to say?]]</sc> 23:30, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

== ARTWORK ==
I have a better Artwork for him (i think)
http://i44.tinypic.com/30cogw3.jpg
should we use this?--[[User:DawnXPiplup|DawnXPiplup]] 09:46, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
:No.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 12:15, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
::I wouldn't say that one is better. It's not as good as quality as the other one. Plus, its jps.--[[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 12:18, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
:Just so you know, the one most people can see now is not the most updated one. I just posted one. Archives has problems again. [[User:Tc26/Anime Predictions|tc]][[User:Tc26|²₆]][[User talk:Tc26|tc]][[User:Tc26/Sandbox|26]] 12:20, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
::Indeed. Compare the history of {{img|HGSS Gold.png|this one}} from the [[a:File:HGSS Gold.png|other one]]. It's different. Admins (or system admins) are dealing with this problem, which we hopefully be fixed soon. '''[[User:Kevzo8|Kev]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|zo8]]''' 12:24, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Aside from it being jpg format, which one is the actual picture? Everything's darker in the one already on the article, but the one here looks like what it's {{tt|supposed to be|Sugimori coloring}}. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 12:26, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
:::: The darker one appears to be a render that somebody uploaded. The most updated version of the file is the official Sugimori artwork as posted on the [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/game/ds/hgss/ HG/SS] game website. [[User:Trainer-c|Trainer-c]] 12:32, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

== The part about Gold's pants ==

It says Gold is the only male player character who wears shorts. This is not true; Brendan wears shorts in Emerald. --[[User:Evice|Evice]] 04:03, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
:It says he's the only male character who doesn't wear long pants. That is different. --[[User:Galladeon|Galladeon]] 04:50, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
::Yes that's true. But under those shorts are pants. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 05:18, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
:::While it is a confusing style choice (and hell for cosplay), Brendan does wear trousers and then shorts on top. They're not long socks, at least from what I can tell. Unless you have some official source which specifically says something about Brendan's choice of lower-half clothing. '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 16:20, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
::::How exactly can you tell that they aren't long socks? They look like tube socks that are about the same color as his shorts (notice how what you're calling "long pants" aren't as baggy as his pants in Ruby and Sapphire; rather, they're tight like socks). It's not like there aren't socks that are that long. Do ''you'' have an official source regarding his clothes? Wearing shorts over long pants isn't exactly common. --[[User:Evice|Evice]] 22:58, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::Do you have a source that they are are tube socks? --[[User:PsychicRider|PsychicRider]] [[User talk:PsychicRider|T]] - [[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|C]] 23:08, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
::::::(EC) I've debated it a lot myself, but short of getting some official word on it, it's best to go based on what most people assume it to be at first glance, which seems to be shorts over trousers. I'm really unsure myself, seeing as I don't try and pay all too much attention to it, and my interpretation is also slightly askew because [[Ruby (Special)|of the manga]]. This topic is starting to drift away from being related to Gold and more being related to Brendan, so can we either get back onto it, or move this section to [[Talk:Brendan (game)|Brendan's page]]. '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 23:11, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
:::::::No, but it doesn't look like you have a source saying he's wearing two pairs of pants at the same time, which is more unusual than wearing shorts and long socks. I think they look like socks because whatever he's wearing under his shorts doesn't look like his pants in Ruby and Sapphire, which were baggier and not a solid color. --[[User:Evice|Evice]] 23:15, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

:{{tt|Let's move this [[Talk:Brendan (game)|elsewhere]], ladies.|No offense.}} --[[Gallade|'''エ''']][[User:Galladeon|'''ルレ''']][[User talk:Galladeon|'''イ''''''ド''']] 23:22, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

== Could i add this? ==

One of his pictures features him with a green poké ball. And the same with eusine. Is that good trivia to add.--[[User:Pokéboy93|Pokéboy93]] 15:19, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

== Gold's Gen II sprites ==

I started up Crystal and got into a battle with [[Carrie]] at the Trainer House and Gold's Gold and Silver sprite is used for her (her page mentions using Gold's sprite), despite Gold's own Trainer Card displaying that game's new sprite (shown in the sprites section). Can this usage be mentioned? The only problem is that I haven't been able to confirm how it's used for other Trainer House opponents (such as [[Cal]]) as well as during link battles. Does anyone know what the case is with those? --[[User:Evice|Evice]] 23:57, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
:Cal uses character's sprite because he's a placeholder for a proper player (who the player connects, when he uses IR-DA capabilities of GBC). This is a simply technical limitation. If Cal's gonna be featured in HGSS, then he'll probably have his own sprite (he had his own design in Stadium 2, anyways). --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 06:17, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
::I wasn't referring to how they use Gold's sprite, I'm talking about how in Crystal they don't use [[a:File:Gold_crystal.png|his sprite from that game]], instead using [[a:File:Gold.gif|his sprite from Gold and Silver]]. I should have made that more clear. --[[User:Evice|Evice]] 14:45, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
:::That's something to mention in Cal's article, I think. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 14:48, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
::::[[Cal (game)|Done.]] --[[User:Evice|Evice]] 02:13, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

== Defaults in HGSS ==

Well, Festa's video shows him having a default name of Hiroki and another as Soul, while Soul gets Miki and Heart. Now, given that's not a guarantee of their names. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:53, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
:Keep in mind that those Festa videos are using SS and not HG, hence the male character being Soul and the female being Heart, etc.—[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 07:11, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
::Personally, I think we should wait to see what their names are when they're NPCs (such as how the names for Brendan, May, Dawn, and Lucas come from the names used as NPCs). Unless of course Game Freak doesn't give them set names like previous opposite-gender characters (I guess there isn't anything stopping Game Freak from doing that). --[[User:Evice|Evice]] 17:48, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

== Pointless trivia I noticed ==

Gold appears to be the only player character (at least the only male player character) to wear his headgear (in this case, a baseball cap) backward. (I'm only counting game characters, since [[Red (Special)|Red's Pokémon Adventures counterpart]] wears his hat like this in the chapters based on Generation I.) Can this be added? --[[User:Evice|Evice]] 17:55, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

== In the Trivia section... ==

"All female player characters either wear a skirt (Leaf and Dawn) or cycling shorts (Kris, May, and Soul)."
:What the crap is that supposed to mean?--'''Dark''' [[Mask of Ice|'''ICE''']] (User:Cold)([[user:Cold|page]], [[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 21:02, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
::It does not sound that important to me.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 21:07, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
::: {{tt|It's not.|Or are you referring to my comment?}} First it's talking about guys, then it's talking about girls. (Kinda like most of the boys at my school.) Could an admin please take it off?--'''Dark''' [[Mask of Ice|'''ICE''']] (User:Cold)([[user:Cold|page]], [[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 21:16, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
::::I was talking about why is that in there. That trivia would make more sense if there were like 10-20 girls in the games. And yes why is/was it on a boy's page?--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 00:40, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

== B/c this is protected ==

Can someone put this trivia in.
"Gold is the only male player not to have a "common" name." Red is a name but not as common as Brenden and Lucas.--'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 23:25, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
::I don't know about you, but I have never once heard of anyone else named "Red" --[[User:Gen1king|'''GE''']][[User talk:Gen1king|'''N1''']][[Special:Contributions/Gen1king|'''KI''''''NG''']] 07:15, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
:::You've never seen That 70's Show? Or Back to the Future? Or played Spyro? There are Reds in each. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:30, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

== Hibiki? ==

Since the girl was confirmed to be Kotone, why isn't Gold's article moved to Hibiki. It was shown on the PokeGear screen referring to him as such and doesn't seem likely the opposite gender character is nameable.

And the girl is Kotone, not Hibiki. {{unsigned|Raine}}
:It could of been one of the default names or the person who was playing the game named it. Therefore, Hibiki is not his real name just wait for the games to come out. --[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''☆Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチ''']][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''ュウ!''']] 00:55, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
Ah, but the girl was the player during the time. (When Shoko was playing HG.)

It wasn't referring to the player character since it was on the Phone List.--[[User:Raine|Raine]] 00:59, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
:The player's mom refers to a friend named Hibiki while playing as the girl, so it must indeed be his NPC name. See here: [http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g29/vs_seeker/mom.jpg]. This also matches Kotone's name (which means "koto sound" [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koto_(musical_instrument)]), since it means echo, sound, reverberation, noise. [[User:Capsule Computer|Capsule Computer]] 08:36, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
So... since Hibiki has been confirmed to be his official name, shouldn't the page be renamed Hibiki (game), and "Gold (game)" can redirect here? [[User:FireMeowth|FireMeowth]] 14:53, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
::If anything, the page should be split with all Gen II info remaining here, and all Gen IV info on a new page. '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 15:03, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
:::Well, new information generally replaces old information, and he was never formally called ''Gold'' in the [[Generation II]] games, so... I think we whould move this to ''Hibiki (game)''. It may be stated in the page that he used to be known as Gold before [[Generation IV]]. - [[User:D-Wheel|D-Wheel]] 17:59, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
::::We didn't rename Blue's article to Green when FRLG were released. So should we change this article's name? - [[User:Crystal Master|Crystal Master]] 21:10, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::Cause people hate Kotone's name. That's the only reason it is an issue. They figure since she can't be Soul, Gold should be Hibiki. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 21:13, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::I thought that it was because Blue's NPC Appearance trumps his Rival Appearance, since the player can still name him in FRLG. If he's "Green" in HGSS (outside Japan, anyway), then I think he should be moved to Green. Thus, I think Gold should be moved to Hibiki... once we get his English Name, anyway.--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 21:46, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::::It's not just because of that, Kenji-girl. I liked Kotone's actual name better than Soul. We didn't rename Blue because that's the only way he was formally referred to in the games. Even with FRLG released, he was never called Green. Hibiki was never formally called Gold in the games, and now '''he's being clearly called Hibiki'''. So, I think that's it. - [[User:D-Wheel|D-Wheel]] 22:08, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::::So you're saying that the GS protagonist had no name until Game Freak created the remakes? I find that pretty bizarre, considering that the Crystal girl HAD a name. - [[User:Crystal Master|Crystal Master]] 22:41, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::: He had no '''in-game''' name. Now it was confirmed to be Hibiki, so... - [[User:D-Wheel|D-Wheel]] 22:52, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::But he must have had a official name, seeing how Kris had one - [[User:Crystal Master|Crystal Master]] 23:05, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::::"Kris" does not have an official in-game name. The only official names she's got are are the ones from the anime and manga. Remember - official names =/= default names. [[User:FireMeowth|FireMeowth]] 10:06, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::::Wrong. The back of the Pokémon Crystal box calls her "Kris". Specifically, it says "New female trainer Kris faces the Unown" [http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/bigboxshots/7/375087_50686_back.jpg]. - [[User:Crystal Master|Crystal Master]] 19:27, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::::: "while in HeartGold and SoulSilver his female counterpart is Kotone. If one is to choose play as Kotone, Gold will still appear as an NPC, with the name Hibiki." Yes? No? [[User:M190049|'''''~m190049''''']][[User talk:M190049|'''''~talk''''']] 22:49, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::: While I do believe his name is Hibiki, I'm not sure it should be moved quite yet, not until the English Version is released, because as unlikely as it could be, what if the PCI decides to name Hibiki, Gold? We would've changed his name basically just because his Japanese name is Hibiki. I think a note or something would be best at this time. --[[User:Dman dustin|Dman dustin]] 17:20, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::Hey, guys. Here's a solution. We have a perfectly fine English name for the guy. Why move it to a Japanese name that's gonna get changed anyway in six months? Like with {{ga|Blue}}, we should ''wait for the English release'', and then wait until the teams get ripped and see what the "true name" is of this guy. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 22:28, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::::Shouldn't we at least give his Japanese name as Hibiki? It still gives his Japanese name as Gold and never mentions the name Hibiki. --[[User:Evice|Evice]] 19:10, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::::We should. And we should move the page. That "we'll have to move his page someday anyway" argument is stupid. Such things happen. And what's wrong? Is this so much of a deal to change the links. Having him under "Gold" is stupid and unreasonable now. As of now, this name is just a mere fanname. Same goes for {{ga|Pearl}}. "It's too late" argument isn't really right. It's not the policy that we should go by. Pearl's name is Barry and Gold's (Japanese) name is Hibiki. Bear with it. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 11:50, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::::::apparently, hibiki also means echo, sound, or noise [[User:Vik0z0z|vik0z0z]] 19:17, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::::::Maxim: If Gold is just a "fanname" like you say, then what was this guy's real name during the 2nd gen? Again, I don't buy that he was a nameless character, seeing how his original female counterpart, the Crystal girl, had a official name [http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/bigboxshots/7/375087_50686_back.jpg]. And for that matter, is the name we use for the GSC rival, Silver, a "fanname", too? - [[User:Crystal Master|Crystal Master]] 01:15, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::Silver wasn't a fanname. If you leave the name blank in Crystal his name is Silver. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] '''''[[Special:Contributions/Turtwig_A|Contributions]]''''' '''''[[User talk:Turtwig A|Talk]]''''' 01:18, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::So basically, we're assuming that:
::::::::::::::::The RGBY protagonist is named after the "first" version of the generation he debuted on, Red.
::::::::::::::::The RGBY rival is named after the "second" version of the generation he debuted on, Green/Blue.
::::::::::::::::The GSC rival is named after the "second" version of the generation he debuted on, Silver.
::::::::::::::::Going from that, isn't it safe to assume that Gold was the GSC boy's original official name (not just a fan name), and the remakes simply changed it to Hibiki because, as a set name ala Brendan/May/Lucas/Dawn, it would look out of place in comparison with the new girl's name (saying "Gold and Kotone" sounds much more weird than saying "Hibiki and Kotone")? Also, more evidence of the GSC boy's original name being Gold is that Red, Blue/Green, Silver and Kris' names appear in the games at top of the list of selectable player names. Red's name was was the top one in Pokémon Red, Blue/Green's was in Pokémon Blue/Green, Silver's was in Pokémon Silver, and Kris' was in Pokémon Crystal (as the first available name for the female trainer). So following the pattern used by every other Gen I/II player character and rival, the GSC boy's name should be the one that is at the top of the list of selectable names in Pokémon Gold, Gold (duh). - [[User:Crystal Master|Crystal Master]] 01:38, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::::Nope, the protaganist and rival from GSC The protaganists and rivals names were both confirmed in GS, where they could be battled. Official names for them was never used pre-HGSS. And we can't rely on DATA, now when we DO have an official name - in-game data is often different than the official name, for instance, Blues in-game data in FRLG calls him "KERRY", or something similar. To name the characters after versions was dropped sometime between Yellow and Crystal. [[User:Pokémon Lover King Mario|Pokémon Lover King Mario]] 07:39, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
: I don't see why this is such a big deal. The only reason I can think of to keep the name "Gold" is nostalgia. Officially, his name is now Hibiki, like it is written in HGSS. [[User:Fairy Red|Fairy Red]] 04:23, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
:: True, but Good O' Bulba Likes to have articles with English names. Since "Gold" is the closest we have to an English name, it will stay as is. for a while anyway <big>'''End of discussion'''</big> [[Special:Contributions/ShinyPikachu|'''Shiny''']][[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']] 20:13, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
:::Sorry to respond to something so old, but I don't remember you being promoted to admin, {{tt|ShinyPika|If you actually were, blame your userpage, it lies! Please don't block me!!!}}. I don't recall normal users to be able to just do that. Just please try to avoid that stuff in the future, it can lead to problems, kay :) --[[User:Gen1king|'''GE''']][[User talk:Gen1king|'''N1''']][[Special:Contributions/Gen1king|'''KI''''''NG''']] 07:13, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

== Gold is a secondary character if Kotone is chosen as the player character. ==

Gold is a secondary character if Kotone is chosen as the player character. His role seems to be identical to Kotone if Gold is chosen as the player character. His Pokemon is a Marill. Could someone please add this important tidbit to the article? Thanks. [[User:CubeShapedWatermelon|CubeShapedWatermelon]] 21:49, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
:Also, somebody should probably add that while playing as Kotone, his grandparents run the Day Care.
:(...And is it just me, or is the "Storyline in the games"-section pretty... unneeded?) [[User:FireMeowth|FireMeowth]] 08:46, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
::Yep. It is just you. If the other player characters have it, then why shouldn't Gold? - [[User:Crystal Master|Crystal Master]] 20:07, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
:::May doesn't have it. Brendan doesn't have it. Dawn doesn't have it. Lucas doesn't have it. KOTONE doesn't even have it. Besides, isn't the storyline already written in the respective game's article? [[User:FireMeowth|FireMeowth]] 19:14, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

== His appearence? ==

Did he slim down from Gold/Silver to Crystal? Or, at least his clothing is less baggy in his Crystal sprite, and artwork. His pants seem longer too. Is that notable trivia? [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 20:14, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
:The fact he's the only male PC to wear shorts (or at the very least not full trousers) is already mentioned. Also, the slimmer look you're talking about is mainly because his new outfit consists of hooded jacket, rather than a full-on hoodie. (Also this is very forum-y) '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 00:06, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
::Sugimori got better at drawing, too. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 16:41, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
Maybe he is meant to be a year or so older in the remakes. That would explain why he looks taller and slimmer. [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] 20:56, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

== Pokémon Party ==

Can someone change the color of the box?
{{Party/Single|color={{silver color}}|bordercolor={{silver color dark}}
|headcolor={{silver color light}}
|sprite=Spr HGSS Ethan.png‎
|class={{color2|000|Pokémon Trainer}}
|name=Hibiki
|prize=None
|game=[[Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver|{{color|000000|HeartGold and SoulSilver}}]]
|location=[[Route 29|{{color|000000|Route 29}}]]
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon|gen=4|game=HeartGold and SoulSilver|ndex=183|pokemon=Marill
|gender=male|level=5|type1=Water|ability=
|move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Defense Curl|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status}}}}
{{Party/Footer}}
to
{{Party/Single|color={{gold color}}|bordercolor={{gold color dark}}
|headcolor={{gold color light}}
|sprite=Spr HGSS Ethan.png‎
|class={{color2|000|Pokémon Trainer}}
|name=Hibiki
|prize=None
|game=[[Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver|{{color|000000|HeartGold and SoulSilver}}]]
|location=[[Route 29|{{color|000000|Route 29}}]]
|pokemon=1
|pokemon1={{Pokémon|gen=4|game=HeartGold and SoulSilver|ndex=183|pokemon=Marill
|gender=male|level=5|type1=Water|ability=
|move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal|move1cat=Physical
|move2=Defense Curl|move2type=Normal|move2cat=Status}}}}
{{Party/Footer}}
I think it better. --[[User:Nechigawara|Nechigawara]]-[[User talk:Nechigawara|Talking]] 02:14, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

:Yep, sure is. But I used HeartGold color because it is in HeartGold only. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 06:37, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

== "Game" ==

Why do these articles have [Name of the player](game) as their names? Examples [[Red (game)]], [[Gold (game)]], [[Kris (game)]]. But the articles are about the trainers, not a game called Red, Gold or Kris. Shouldn't we change them to "Red (trainer)", "Gold (trainer)" or "Kris (trainer)"?--[[User:Dr. James|Dr. James]] 03:47, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
:No. It means (name) ([From the] game). Birthday! ''Alpha'' [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 03:48, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
::But then, shouldn't it be "Gold (Pokémon Gold, Silver, Crystal, HeartGold and SoulSilver)"? --[[User:Dr. James|Dr. James]] 03:51, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
:::That'd be way too long. Birthday! ''Alpha'' [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 03:51, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
::::The game designers will not likely name two main characters the same thing.--[[User:GreenGyarados|♫Green]][[Gyarados (Pokémon)|♫ギャラドス♫]][[User Talk:GreenGyarados|Talk♫]] 03:53, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
::::The parenthesis should indicate ''what are we talking about''. Like this, if the article's name is "Gold (game)", then the article should be about a ''game'' called ''Gold''. However, we are talking about a trainer, or player. So it should be "Gold (player)" or "Gold (trainer)". I hope you understand my point. --[[User:Dr. James|Dr. James]] 03:55, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::While I see your point, (trainer) would not work, as the (game) is also used to distinguish game characters from anime characters and manga characters, and they are trainers in all three media. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 04:12, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::How about "player"? Because Gold, Kris and Red are "players" (playable trainers) after all. It's just..., we aren't talking about a game here, but a player. --[[User:Dr. James|Dr. James]] 04:15, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
:::::::I see where you're coming from, but like others have said, it basically means Gold (from the game). The concept comes from stuff like [[May (game)]] and [[May (anime)]] both existing, and the rest just conform to that established standard. Besides, [[Gold (game)]] differentiates from [[Gold (Special)]] as well. While I do see you're point, I don't think it's gonna be changed anytime soon. It's just an established system that's worked fine so far. [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 04:48, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Mmmm... Gotcha. Okay, it was only a suggestion, because a normal user wouldn't understand the title so easily. Even I didn't understand it, that's why I asked it. I hope it changes, to make Bulbapedia a better place. --[[User:Dr. James|Dr. James]] 04:44, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

== Hibiki's namelist in HGSS? ==

Kotone's namelist is already up, so does anyone have Hibiki's yet? Also, I just noticed that he shares several names with Red and Lucas/Kouki (ala Leaf, Kotone, and Dawn/Hikari sharing names).
--[[User:Raine|Raine]] 01:53, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

== Challenge sprite ==

[[a:File:EthanChallenge.png]] Could someone put this sprite in Gold's Sprite box? thank-you. [[User talk: ShinyPikachu|Shiny]][[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']] 14:34, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

:[[a:File:HGSS Ethan Back.png]] And his backsprite? Just like Kotone's spritebox has all that stuff. {{color|00DD00|--[[User:Bulbafan|Bulbafan]] 16:32, 9 October 2009 (UTC)}}
::Done. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 06:26, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
:::[[File:GSC Ethan Back.png]] You guys forget this -[[User:Pokeant|Pokeant]] 01:24, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
::::That's the lot of them then. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:48, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

==Family==
Wait, if Kotone's grandparents run the day-care if she's an NPC, isn't the same true for Gold? If so, should it be added to the article? [[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 04:07, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
:Done. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 06:26, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
::I guess, since theyre pretty much the same person but different gender, so im guessing yes [[User:Fudgenuggets]] 23:34, 15 October 2009
:::Dude, it was added like 3 days ago. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 06:56, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

== Alteration to the Trivia Section ==

"Gold is the '''only male player character''' to have '''two different female''' counterparts."

Does it really matter what the specific genders are? No. So I suggest the following change.

"Gold is the '''only player character''' to have '''two different opposite-gender''' counterparts."

Think about it. ''[[User:Glitchipedia|This message brought to you by Glitchipedia, the falsified encyclopedia]] 03:14, 26 October 2009 (UTC)''
:<s>May, Brendan... Emerald sprites... Dawn... Lucas... Platinum sprites...</s> [[User:Ht14|'''''ht''''']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 03:39, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

== English Name Possibly Revealed ==

The first English screenshots have been released by Nintendo (although I am unable to provide a direct link, you can find them at www.officialnintendomagazine.co.uk), and according to the screenshots Gold's name in HGSS is '''Soul'''. [[User:Watchermark|Watchermark]] 10:55, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
:EVERY screen shot in the Japanese pre-release pictures said his name was "Soul" as well. HOWEVER, later they officially released the name as "Hibiki," not "Soul"... I think you can expect this to be the exact same... ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]])
::Default name in SoulSilver! DERRRR! Names as the player can't be taken as canon. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:25, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

== Backsprite ==

Gold's backsprite is wrong!!
Why does it use the beta backsprite instead of the actual one? (The beta has a red logo on the cap, the official doesn't) -[[User:Adwajr|adwajr]]
:The backsprites on this article do not have a red logo on the cap. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 09:44, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
::It displays this though: [[a:File:HGSS_Ethan_Back.png]] This is his beta backsprite. -[[User:Adwajr|adwajr]]
:::But that has no red logo... [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|You enter a poorly lit room...]] 13:22, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
::::Oh, I guess it was fixed when i wasn't looking. --[[User:Adwajr|Adwajr]] 10:43, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
:::::No.... he just doesn't have a red logo on the back at all. He didn't in his Gen. II sprites either. Only in his artwork. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 17:00, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

== Lucas pose? ==

In the trivia section, it states that Gold's HGSS sprite is positioned the same as Lucas' Platinum sprite, but it isn't! There are clear differences, and if I were to say that one of Gold's sprites were in the same pose as Lucas's, it'd be the Crystal sprite, but mirrored. Could this be changed, please? --[[User:MewSoul|MewSoul]] 20:27, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
:The legs and left arm are in the exact same position. That's what is meant. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:26, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
::....or are they talking about the back sprite? [[User:ShinyPikachu|Shiny]] [[User:ShinyPikachu|'''Pika''']] 21:32, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
::: [[File:Spr HGSS Ethan.png]] [[File:Spr Pt Lucas.png]] I see similarities, don't you guys? Mewsoul, we're talking about Lucas' Platinum sprite. :) [[User:Tyro|Tyro]] 21:39, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
::::I never said they weren't similar. I said they weren't the same. --[[User:MewSoul|MewSoul]] 20:54, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
:::: Seriously??? Gold's right leg is crooked while Lucas' right leg is normally positioned, so not the same. [[User:BAC510]] 08:50 February 2, 2010 (UTC)
::::: They're similar, but not enough to note. Trivia on this wiki have skewed way too stupidly specific anyway, we don't need any more of it.—[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 09:58, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::Wow BAC... "There are clear differences" was the beginning of the second sentence. And you're being way too picky about it. But I agree with Urutapu. We're starting to get trivia just for the sake of trivia. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 13:30, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

:::::::By "clear differences", I might've just exaggerated it a bit though. Even so, the way it's written in the Trivia section made me think that they just edited Lucas's Platinum sprite to make Gold's. Could we at least say that his sprite is ''similar'' rather than ''same''? Same implies that there are no differences (besides the clothes in this case). Also, is the article locked or something? I can't edit it for some reason. --[[User:MewSoul|MewSoul]] 20:50, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Yes, the article has been protected. See the section below for why. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 20:56, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

== US Name ==
Serebii revealed Hibiki's US name. It's Ethan. Kotone's Lyra. --[[User:CitruX|CitruX]] 13:52, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
:Do we have an official source? If not, it surely shouldn't matter what Serebii says. [[User:FireMeowth|FireMeowth]] 14:32, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
::We believed them back in the never forgotten April Fools, when Merrick revealed all DP names. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 14:51, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
:::That was all the way back in April '07. We didn't have that many policies back then. And now we do, which is "wait until the game release/episode airs". I feel a little suspicious that he's not giving a source, either... ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 16:13, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
::::Joe's reason has been that he's got an "inside source he can't reveal" because it would be, like, a breach of contract for that source. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 00:20, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

His new official name is Ethan [http:http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml]
:...yes. We are still going to wait until the game's release. There has been no ''official'' source given on those names, Serebii's not a good enough source. ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 18:02, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
::Not disagreeing with official policy, but making a declaration that names aren't changed until the game is released [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Talk:Pok%C3%A9mon_Ranger:_Tracks_of_Light#Proposing_a_change_from_.22tracks.22_to_.22locus.22 while simultaneously holding a vote to change the listed name of an unreleased game] seems kinda silly.--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 18:24, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
:::That's due to a supposed translation error. This is due to speculation. They are completely different situations. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 18:29, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
::::Either way, I'd prefer to keep him as Gold. Forever. Gen II character, Gen II naming convention. We aren't moving Red to Ash or Jack, now are we? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:17, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::Cry me a river, Mister Editor-In-Chief. You'd have been all for moving the page if they'd named him after you. Besides, moving Gold to Ethan (or whatever) isn't comparable to moving Red to Ash or Jack. Jack wasn't the name set forth in-game, and Ash is an anime character. It's more comparable to the point Zesty Cactus makes a few bullets down. --'''[[User:Darkeiya|Darkeiya]]''' ''[[User talk:Darkeiya|talk to me!]]'' 00:02, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

:::::Yes, but those aren't his official names, right? Anyways, it don't matter to me, I all for waiting until the game is released. Serebii is usually right, but we can't take chances, and rules are rules. [[User:Littlmiget123|Littlmiget123]] 23:20, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

::::He was never called "Gold" in-game, and now he is canocally named Hibiki (or Ethan, whatever) if not chosen as the player... but I'm already tired of this old discussion... - [[User:Taylor|Taylor]] 23:37, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::I'd personally like to move the page to "Ethan" or "Hibiki", ''but'' no matter what, we're waiting for the games to come out to make a decision.
:::::Oh, btw, TTE: If {{ga|Blue}} is "Green" in English HGSS, would you move the page? I know with Blue it's slightly different because he was renamed to Blue for RBY, but to move Blue to Green would be the same logic as moving Gold to Ethan/Hibiki (imho). --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 23:54, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::Green's his name. LeafGreen was FireRed's counterpart, not WaterBlue. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:56, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::I believe that, at this point in time, we are still honouring his first English canon name, which is Blue. Just as we seem to be honouring Gold's first English canon name as Gold and not Hibiki/Ethan/whoever. (on a related note, [[Vincent]] is Vincent and not Jackson, although "Jackson" appeared first). I'm not favouring one name over the other necessarily, I just favour consistent choices of names (first English appearance vs. most recent English appearance). --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 05:11, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Uh, oh... This kind of thing happened with Pearl- No, wait, Barry. I really truly hope this doesn't turn into a move-war. Just in case though,''' I OPPOSE''' --[[User:Gen1king|'''GE''']][[User talk:Gen1king|'''N1''']][[Special:Contributions/Gen1king|'''KI''''''NG''']] 07:03, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Green is his name in Japan. Elsewhere, it’s Blue. On this one, though, I wish we could have left it Gold. --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 23:02, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
:::May I make a suggestion? Protect both Gold (game) and Kotone (game) until the official release of the game. That way, no-one is arguing, and that can also determine whether or not Serebii.net is telling the truth about the English names for Gold and Kotone respectively.--[[User:Kangaflora|Kangaflora]] 21:49, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
::::Whatever his name does turn out to be, if it's not Gold then all HG/SS details on this page should be moved to a new page under the new name. There is nothing there to say that the old Gold/Crystal are the same as the new pair - and if Kotone has a separate page, then Hibiki should as well. '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 22:38, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::That's a slippery slope then, D. What if I don't like Red's Generation III Design and want them to split Generation III Red from Generation I/II? Or what if I say that we don't know if Red is the same person in RGBY as he is in FRLG. We could end up with a separate page on each character from each generation at the end. In the end, I think a more simple method is required. The reason why Lyra has a different page than Kris is because Lyra was presented as a different character (both by Pokémon Sunday in Japan, and the Anime) while Ethan/Gold hasn't had that distinction made.--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 22:43, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
::::::Kangaflora - welcome to five weeks ago.
::::::TheChrisD - uhhh, in that case, details about Fire need to be moved off of [[Red (game)]] and onto their own page, too. 8( The name "Gold" for the GSC male protagonist is, afaik, as fan-based as the name "Fire" is for the FRLG one. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 22:46, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::But unlike Gold/Crystal, Red and Blue are explicitly named as such in Gens II and IV (we hope), which gives solid proof that those characters are one and the same. But, has there been any solid proof given (with the exception of PokéSpecial) that Gen II Gold and Gen IV Hibiki/Ethan/whatever are the same character? '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 00:15, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
::::::::But that still means that there'd be a different page for "Red" in Generation III and VI than the one in Generation I and II. After all, just because the name's the same doesn't mean they're the same character, not to mention different actions being taken in both sets of games (RGBY vs FRLG). It leads down the same slippery slope. As for Gen II Gold being the same person as Gen IV Ethan, doesn't the burden of proof lay with you to prove they are different people? I don't believe there is evidence either way (unless one takes the lack of Ethan in the Anime as evidence).--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 00:40, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::Ugh, I thought this was a dead issue. If Gold's name changes, the page's name should change to the more up-to-date version. It would be his first canon name, seeing as Gold was really only his name in one version (that is, Gold version). Not just in this case, either. If Red's name were to change, I'd certainly advocate that it be moved. As for arguments pertaining to Kotone, that IS a dead issue. We decided long ago that she and Kris were to be considered different characters. That does not mean that Gold and Hibiki should be considered different characters; to assume so would be denying the obvious fact that Hibiki is a redesign. And that's the end of this rant for now... --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 02:58, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::I think seeing what the manga has in store will help decide if he is a new character. I think someone said something about Lyra being Crystal's younger sister. Maybe Ethan is Gold's younger brother. We will have to wait. The games don't tell us these things. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 05:03, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

== Korean Name ==

Because of page block I can't put it in. It's 심향 ''Simhyang''. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 10:16, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

== Image name inconsistency ==

Speaking of names, [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:HibikiChallenge.png several] [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:HGSS_Hibiki.png sprites] of HGSS's Gold use the name Hibiki, with Gold as a redirect. IMO, they should all use Gold, with Hibiki redirecting to them, seeing as we're keeping Gold as the article's name.

Or maybe it's my OCD talking?
''[[User:Chosen|Chosen]] of [[User talk:Chosen|Mana]]'' [[User:Chosen|-]] 16:18, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
:I think they are waiting until we get the official OK about his English name to change them to anything. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 17:16, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

== Info Box Color ==
Can someone fix the info box color to HeartGold color like the other character's info boxes? I can't do anything about it since the page is locked so... [[User:Fudgenuggets|Fudgenuggets]] 18:17, 14 February 2010 (UTC)
:Well, {{u|ElectAbuzzzz}} made the infobox Gold colored. He must have a reason behind it. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 01:49, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
::Because he's Gold. Same reason Red's is Red and not FireRed. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:29, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

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Well, what about the user who wanted to change his colors to SoulSilver because he was “Soul” in prerelease screens? --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 23:02, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
:If you read his edit note, you'd have seen his reasons for doing so is that not only was he originally called Soul in prerelease screens, but also in the intro section to both HeartGold and SoulSilver, Ethan appears with a silver background, whereas Lyra appears with a gold background. Reverting your revision for the moment, until a decision from someone "higher-up" happens. Also don't revert one and not the other, because that made both Ethan and Lyra use gold coloured infoboxes. '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 17:24, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
::I did read his edit sumary, otherwise, how would I even know about the “Soul” thing? And you’re right, there was more to his reasoning. A whole, what, 2 seconds of animation? But I think it is going overboard to say that his counterparts and his past don’t matter at all to this. I also don’t see the problem with Ethan and Lyra both having a golden color scheme, in fact, it makes good sense: they both serve the same role(s) in the story, and they both oppose {{ga|Silver}}( who has a silver color scheme); besides which, they are not exactly the same, Ethan uses a normal gold infobox, while Lyra uses a heartgold-color infobox. As for someone “higher-up”... TTE( who comented just before me in this discussion) fits that description, no? Obviously, his authority can be superceded by facts or board decisions, but he is still EIC. --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 01:16, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
:::The article is about the game character from the fourth generation, with only minor throwbacks to the character from the second generation, and thus the colour scheme hinted to us from the fourth generation is what matters. Anime and manga counterparts have their own pages, and the colour schemes from those characters should be evident on those pages, but not here. Plus there are only very minor shading differences between gold and heartgold, and silver and soulsilver, at least from what I can tell. As for TTE's comment, that was from before the games were released in America and his English name was revealed, so the current situation is different now. '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 12:24, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
::::So you decide "lol so make him silver". Yeah. Okay sure. And then we make the RBY rival purple because of his pants. Come ''on''. Lyra goes SoulSilver, Silver goes Silver, Ethan goes Gold. Just keep the damn consistency between counterparts unless there's any real reason to have it not be consistent, like Ash, who is more associated with Pikachu's electric yellow than Red. Heck, if we get the reveal that Kris in Adventures is in Lyra's outfit, we should make a new decision whether or not to keep Lyra and Kris as separate game characters...
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::::By the way. The above is taken from the opening of HeartGold and SoulSilver. I see no "default color" around either of them. If anything, this implies SoulSilver color should be '''blue'''. But it's not gonna be! We draw the colors from elsewhere. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:33, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
::::::That's not the location I believe that's being referred to here. The main introduction montage to the game whenever it is booted up shows Ethan on a silver background and Lyra on a gold background towards the end before showing off the three starters. That's where I believe the original editor got the idea from to switch around their colour schemes, along with other cues from the media, such as pre-release screens with the names Soul and Heart. '''[[User:TheChrisD|TheChrisD]]''' [[User_talk:TheChrisD|Rants]]•[[Special:Contributions/TheChrisD|Edits]] 09:47, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
:::::Oh, nice to see you chimed in here even before I asked( although that is mainly because I spent 12 hours trying unsuccessfully to edit your user page. I mean, seriously, the article is about (a )character(s) from Generations II ''AND'' IV; if it was only about Ethan, Gold would have a separate page, like Lyra and Kris. The name “Ethan” had in fact already been revealed in February, though not officially, and there is [[User talk:TTEchidna/Archive Jan-Mar 10#Barry's Page|evidence in TTE’s Talk Archives]] suggesting that he had already grudgingly accepted that it would be confirmed. Besides which, the opening montage had already been seen in the Japanese versions well before, including the 2 seconds where she is on a gold background with him on a silver. Of course, anyone may change his mind, including TTE, and I didn’t know whether or not he put significant thought into that comment when he made it, or what his opinion might now be since the games’ English release, which is why I asked him( albeit late due to posting issues) to look in on this discussion. But you couldn’t claim he lacked access to information when he said that, and his new comment just affirms it all. --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 02:41, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
:Maybe I'm a little late on this, but COMPROMISE: Have Ethan's infobox be mainly gold with a silver border or something, and Lyra inverted? D: Might as well have both colors... ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 16:49, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

[[File:EthanLyraHGSSOp.png]]

Here you go, guys. The scene from the official game opening, depicting Ethan's color as silver and Lyra's color as gold. If you think you have more authority than Game Freak themselves, then keep gold for Ethan... - [[User:D-Wheel|D-Wheel]] 21:26, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

== Requesting infobox addition... ==

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- ''[[User:Chosen|Chosen]] of [[User talk:Chosen|Mana]]'' [[User:Chosen|-]] 16:12, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

== name meaning ==
japanese name means echo while english name Means "solid, enduring" in Hebrew... could we add that... [[User:Badwolf1234|Badwolf1234]] 03:08, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
:The Japanese name meaning is there already. I'm not sure about the English name in relation to Hebrew, since the game doesn't have an official Hebrew version. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jel]][[User Talk:Jello|lo]] 03:12, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

:acttually the name ethan means solid enduring in hebrew.. not the hebrew name because there is no herew version of the game....[[User:Badwolf1234|Badwolf1234]] 03:25, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
::His English name isn't going there yet, thus we have no reason to add in the English name's ''meaning'' yet. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❄]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|❅]] 03:28, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
:::We don't add the literal meanings of unless they're significant, and that generally only applies to the Asian names. For the Western names we generally only put the pun (i.e. Ethan sounds like "echo," we'd put that and not "solid").—[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 19:13, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
::::This is possibly a coincidence but Ethan is also one of the most accepted names of the harp player in King David's court in the Bible. Should this be noted?--[[User:Skystar|Skystar]] 14:34, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
:::::I just thought "Ethan" related to "ethos", a Greek word that can mean "state of being" or "soul."--[[User:RiverAura|River]][[User_Talk:RiverAura|Aura]] 23:42, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
::::Except Ethan ''doesn’t'' sound like echo, at all really. They are completely dissimilar phonetically. Ethan has a long E, while echo has a short e, which are very different sounds in English. The h performs completely different functions in the two different digraphs. None of the phonemes are significantly similar. Clearly, the Biblical reference to a musician is more significant than the orthographic similarity, since all his other names are related to sounds or musical instruments, as is Lyra. --[[User:LaprasBoi|LaprasBoi]] 23:02, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

== The page name should be Gold (game). ==

At least, he should be referred to as Gold in mentions of Generation II. He's only Ethan as the NPC in 4th Gen. Everywhere else, he's Gold. [[User:Emyunoxious|Emyunoxious]] 21:48, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
*That'd be like calling Blue "Gary" or, hell, "Douche" or something. After all, he's only called Blue as the NPC in 2nd Gen. You see how that logic just doesn't work? [[User:Reign|Reign]] 21:50, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
::Can you guys not see the extensive debate we had over this? ''On the same talk page''? He's staying as Ethan because it's the only official name we have for him now- makes sense to call him that. NPC names take priority over common fan ones for pick-your-poison-type names. That's all. We're not going back to Gold. >___> ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tin
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:::"You guys"? I was saying that we ''shouldn't'' move it.[[User:Reign|Reign]] 22:18, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

== Optional names? ==

Can anyone find the optional names for Ethan & Lyra? [[User:Pocketfanmk|Pocketfanmk]] 05:01, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
:Uhm... what optional names? You don't get to choose anything about their names, unlike in, for example, DPPt. If you are male, it's Lyra, if you are female, it's Ethan. Simple as that.--[[User:Afrael|Afrael]] 23:49, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
::I think they mean the optional names that you get when you select your player's name and put in nothing... there's always a list of optional names in the game data. Lucas and Dawn have it, I think Lyra has her Japanese names up.. I'll look around to see if I can find the English ones though. ▫▪''[[User:Tina|Ťïňắ]]'' [[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|♥]] 23:56, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

== Older brother? ==

Anyone have a scan of that part of that pamplhet? [http://idisk.me.com/celebi23/Public/PKMN/1998%2002%20-%20Computer%20and%20Videogames.png This one] says he has a younger one but it seems pretty wrong. I don't recall any part of the beta placing Ethan in a city holding a laptop (unless they mean the Pokegear). Oh, and off topic, but Ethan says the Marill thing listed on Lyra's page, right? I'm adding it. [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 16:31, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
:Yes, well that also states that you can use a skateboard, and that Ampharos could be related to Pikachu. Doesn't seem like a very reliable source for saying he has a brother. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 17:08, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
::The scan of that pamphlet can be found [http://web.me.com/celebi23/Spaceworld_97_Pokemon/Spaceworld_1997_Guide_Book.html here]. That article that Lovely Rose linked has a bunch of mistranslations in it; the trivia about the older brother was added by me, translated directly from the Spaceworld 1997 pamphlet. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 17:22, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

== Locations!! ==
I'm not sure I looked well enough, but where is the section saying where you run into your childhood friend throughout the game and where they are after you beat the game. I need to find Ethan about the Shiny Leaf thing. --[[User:Lustre|Lustre]] 01:41, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
:I think he's in the top floor of Elm's lab. Go up the outside stairs. If someone could confirm that, then add it to the page. <sc>[[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]]</sc> [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 10:05, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
::Actually, I spent a while looking for him, and maybe it's at a certain time or not, but he was in his house playing with Marill in his room. --[[User:Lustre|Lustre]] 12:12, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
:::To go into more detail, he calls about random things, such as wanting you to bring a Poliwag to Route 40. I have no clue what this is about. I did post this same idea on the Route 40 discussion page to see if anybody knows about it, but responses there are slower than a slug on weed. [[User:KurosakisTwin|KurosakisTwin]] 01:19, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
::::Replied. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 06:04, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

==Gold==
"He had no official name in Generation II, but was unofficially known by fans as Gold (ゴールド Gold)."
He was called Gold in the istruction booklet that came with the Gold Version.'''Bug Catcher Wade'''http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/0/00/190MS.png 02:23, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
:He was called Silver in the counterpart version. I think it's best that we leave his name as Ethan. [[User:KurosakisTwin|KurosakisTwin]] 02:38, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

== What the... ==

"Despite, Lyra being called Soul, Ethan was the only one who appeared in-game in demos with the name Soul."

This makes no sense.--'''[[User:Immewnity|''immewnity'']][[User talk:Immewnity|the]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|mew]]''' 19:42, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
:This reminds me of the prerelease hype from like, August, when we used to call Lyra "Soul", but Ethan was "Soul" in preview footage and Lyra was "Heart" in the same footage. It's stupid irrelevant trivia though, so I removed it. --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 20:05, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

::Trust me, it's like this with any set of player characters before their actual names are revealed. I mean, given what's known, it doesn't matter just how much of the fandom call the Generation V female player character "Black" and how much call her "White". In the end, odds are everyone'll be calling her {{red link|Iris (game)|Iris}}, given how that's the most likely name for the character at this point (that character's anime counterpart bears that name). --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 22:08, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
:That comma after despite is also DEFINITELY wrong. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 13:03, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
::That comma is what I was mostly going after. And, SP252, Iris isn't the anime counterpart. It's another character completely.--'''[[User:Immewnity|''immewnity'']][[User talk:Immewnity|the]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|mew]]''' 14:30, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

== About his name... ==

The name origin kinda just bothers me..It seems a bit TOO obscure. I know it's minor and not that relevant but are we sure it has nothing to do with the actual word "echo" itself? I doubt it's a coincidence they're spelled similarly. [[User:Pocketfanmk|Pocketfanmk]] 04:17, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
:Echo isn't similar enough. To quote the hidden text in the name origin section:
::''"Echo" is unlikely, even downright nonsensical. They have 2 letters in common, but those letters make completely different sounds between the 2 words. In fact, the words don’t sound the least bit alike. Phonetically, the most you can say is they each have 2 syllables, stress on the first. And those of you who find the name somehow distasteful *cough*TTE*cough*, try to remember that it actually the real name of many people. Regardless of whether those people ever even wanted to share a name with a generation of brats or a Nintendo character. :-(''
--[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 11:37, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

== About his name 2 - Electric Boogooloo ==

The name origin is so, well, not appropriate for his context considering the meaning of Ethan. I share my name with this guy so I know what it means. Ethan, most commonly, means Gift to the Island (whatever that's supposed to mean), Strong/Enduring, and some other source I saw a while ago stated it meant ''Full of Minerals'' and was used in farming and mining families. I think all of these can apply to him considering the fact that most people thought and still think that every region is an island. He's a Pokémon trainer which are usually strong considering a normal day is them running around catching the creators of the planet/universe/human sapience/death, and Giratina who is Satan. And the ''Full of Minerals'' meaning makes complete sense when he's the male protagonist of ''Gold'' and ''Silver'', AND those were the first games to include "Farming" (if you even want to call it that) in any way or form. So take your pick, I think any of these are more likely to be the name than something straight from the broble. --[[User:Nuclearxpotato|Nuclearxpotato]] ([[User talk:Nuclearxpotato|talk]]) 22:17, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

== Trivia consistency ==

Does anyone know if Ethan will call the player on {{p|Marill}} evolving into {{p|Azumarill}}, like with Lyra? --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 20:54, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

== About his name 3: Greek Antiquity ==
Would "Aether" be another possible name origin? Lyra is derived from "lyre". Both "Aether" and "lyre" were elements of classical Greek antiquity, mythical and real respectively. --[[User:Lmoamemesxd|Lmoamemesxd]] ([[User talk:Lmoamemesxd|talk]]) 10:59, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

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== Interwiki link ==

Please add [[:de:Isshu-chihō]] to the interwiki list.--[[User:Afrael|Afrael]] [[User talk:Afrael|talk]] 11:45, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
:Their wiki appears to have gone down, but I'll add it anyway. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 11:50, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

== Region Image ==

The region image is just an image of Hiun City (Japanese Name) not the region itself.--[[User:Jimmyduckegg|Jimmyduckegg]] 19:00, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
:We don't have a region map yet, though. A city in the region is the next best thing. [[User:Reign|Reign]] 01:13, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
There's a [http://serebii.net/blackwhite/isshubig.jpg larger version of the map] out now that shows more locations, is it okay if we add it? [[User:Vienna Waltz|Vienna Waltz]] 02:46, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

== Please add... ==

I would really like to stay consistent here... someone who can edit this article, please change this so this article is in the same format as Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, Sinnoh -- (Japanese: イッシュ地方 Isshu-chihō) along with the region infobox with that same information. Thanks :) ([[User:Yaminokame|Yaminokame]] 01:26, 13 May 2010 (UTC))

== Is this confermed? If so, where? ==

I don't know where this has been confermed. Please enlighten me on which Coro-Coro scan. [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK]] [[Mudkip (Pokémon)|Leiks]] [[Lucario (Pokémon)|Lucario]] [[User talk:SpecialK|and the]] [[User:Missingno. Master/Celebi Glitch|Celebi Glitch]] 15:20, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
:[[a:File:CoroCoro_BW7.jpg|Right here]], on the left. Clearly shows a picture of at least the port town and "イッシュ地方" (Isshu region). ▫▫'''[[User:Tina|ティナ]]'''[[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|★]] 15:52, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
::Ah. Thanks for clearing that up. [[User:SpecialK|SpecialK]] [[Mudkip (Pokémon)|Leiks]] [[Lucario (Pokémon)|Lucario]] [[User talk:SpecialK|and the]] [[User:Missingno. Master/Celebi Glitch|Celebi Glitch]] 16:36, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

==New location==

There's [http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml something] on Serebii about a new place called Sky Arrow Bridge which connects Hiun City to somewhere else. Should we add that? — [[User:Axxonn|'''Axxonn''']][[User talk:Axxonn|the]][[Special:Contributions/Axxonn|Awesometrainer]] 19:20, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
:It's on the official site, so I guess there is no reason as to not put it here.　The screen has a text below saying a big bridge crosses to Hiun City and it's name is Sky Arrow Bridge (スカイアローブリッジ).--[[User:KurowaSan|KurowaSan]] 20:52, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

== Trivia ==

Trivia section mentions that Isshu is the only region of the main games not to have an 'O' sound. Shouldn't ', if one does not include Sevii Islands' also be added to that? I mean, it is considered a region of sorts as well. [[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]] 21:14, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
:It's not a region, so no. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 21:19, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
::Sevii Islands is included in the region template, right up next to the other main games' regions. I'm pretty sure it is considered one. [[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]] 21:21, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
:::Well then, if an admin wants to add it they can. So it's their call. '''[[Team Rocket|R.A.]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Hunter]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|Blade]]''' 21:38, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
::::Unlike the other five, Sevii's not really its own entity. No league, no gyms, nothing but a few small towns and routes on which you can catch Gen II Pokémon. It was an excuse to put Gen II Pokémon in FRLG. Out of all ''main'' regions, Isshu's the only one with no o. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 21:49, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::Does Almia not count? It's a region. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 21:59, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
:::::Grk, strike that. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 22:00, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
::::::A suggestion. Maybe you should put Sevii Islands in parenthesis next to Kanto. To me they are merely an extension of Kanto. Just like the Battle Zone is to Sinnoh. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 22:57, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Is Isshu even its English name? Just out of curiosity. We can't really confirm it unless we know. ----[[User:Zewis29|Zewis]] [[User talk:Zewis29|(2]][[Special:Contributions/Zewis29|9)]] 01:55, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

In the Trivia it says the first gym has the most leaders, 3 but doesn't the [[Cerulean Gym]] have 4, [[Daisy]], [[Lily]], [[Violet]], and [[Misty]]? ''[[User:DoTheWave|<big>D</big>o]][[User talk:DoTheWave|The]][[Wigglytuff (Jungle 16)|Wave]]'' 03:38, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
:In the anime, yes, it does. But this refers to the games only. --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 03:40, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

== New York? ==

No, I'm not wasting talk pages for speculating. I'm just saying that I heard one of the guys on Pokémon Sunday shout "New York" before the recent BW video. [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 02:53, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
:I'm sure you just misheard. If they really did it would be ''everywhere'' by now. [[User:Reign|Reign]] 17:38, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

CuboneKing is right in someway. It does look alot like new york. Can I add that in the article? {{unsigned|DialgaMaster105}}
:We are aware it looks like New York, but we're not gonna speculate... [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 18:13, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

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It does look a lot like the Manhattan region, But It also looks like southren california hiun being Los Angeles then a desert by hiun (its deserty in LA)and theres a red bridge like the one in San Fransico over a river, and there is mountains on both sides of LA like in the map that has been revealed. {{unsigned|Mismagius13}}
:No more speculating on where Isshu is based on, Mismagius13! And stop adding it in! We wait for official confirmation!--[[User:Pokelova|''Poké'']][[User talk:Pokelova|lova!]] 10:58, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
:Hey hey chill Mismagius has a point and the whole technology versus nature, plus the fact that Victini is found on a place called Liberty Island, plus Victni being the "Wings of Victory...."

This stuff of Speculation of this type belongs in the forums.But anywho,It looks like it the way it`s comeing.[[User Talk:LucarioWolf|'''Lucario''']][[User:LucarioWolf|'''Wolf''']] 17:17, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

== Sky Arrow Bridge==
why does this article doesn't include the name of the bridge that connect a city to huin city according to serebii it is named sky arrow bridge here is the like:
[http://www.serebii.net/blackwhite/isshu.shtml]
[[User:Badwolf1234|Badwolf1234]] 06:11, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
:Serebii is not God. We'll get our article up in due time. We know next to nothing anyway. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:16, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

== Team Phantom ==

Team Phantom is the regions vilans. --[[User:Squishy|Squishy]] 23:24, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
:And where is this informatino from?--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 23:25, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
::It's Plasma. Leaked by way of blog that also revealed Tsutarja, Pokabu, and Mijumaru, as well as the Friz. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 10:21, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
::::Link please, TTE. We have no way of knowing what the team is until it's stated Publicly. --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 16:22, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

Judging from one of the things in the CoroCoro scan, it seems to me like that N guy would be the main villian. It said he wants to free pokèmon from people and is trying to obtain the power to do so. Maybe he somehow got a bunch of trainers to follow him and help him awake the main legendary of the game, like Teams Aqua, Magma,and Galactic. [[User:67h5r6h|67h5r6h]] 19:19, 15 July 2010 (UTC)67h5r6h

that's speculation... ([[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 19:22, 15 July 2010 (UTC))

== Hiun City ==

Seriously, this is getting really stupid. All of the other foreign sites have a page for Hiun City and we have more than enough information now to make it its own page. Also, someone needs to update the picture now. [[User:Pokemonemerfan1954|Pokemonemerfan1954]] 03:28, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
:We have bigger isshus to deal with at the moment. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 03:31, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
I agree that it is time to make an independent article to Hiun City. There are enough information and images to start it and several people who would like to contribute on that page.[[User:Toback|Toback]] 19:04, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

== Let's confirm an original source. ==

Even an original source has changed in quality because the Pokemon fan of the foreign country hopes for NY and Shanghai too much.

"isshu is far from Sinnoh, Hoenn, kanto, and johto. " This information is a mistake.

"Isshu" is far from kanto and johto. " This is true.

Please edit this false information if you want to fill Bulbapedia in the truth. The NY consideration and the Shanghai consideration are wonderful. However, the erroneous information cannot be permitted.

[[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 20:23, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

:Apparently, it's because of a specific particle in the original line that can be implied to mean "among others". --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 16:40, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
:: All the article says is that it's a really long way away from the other regions. There is no mention at all of Shanghai or New York. Secondly, since we don't even know how far away Sinnoh and Hoenn are from Kanto-Johto, it's really impossible to make a distinction between far away from Kanto-Johto, and far away from all of them. I must say I also really don't even understand what this question is asking. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 16:52, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

"All the article says is that it's a really long way away from the other regions. "

Do you understand Japanese?I understand you are telling the lie because I understand completely.
It is considerably far from kanto and johto. It has changed in quality , saying that "It is far from all" when information is spread to foreign countries. Please admit the falsification of information. Reconfirm an original source if it is not admitted. Please do not add the sentence not insisted on by an original source. [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 17:08, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

:I could wonder if you understand Japanese, you having that bad English grammar. Anyhow, I think our safest best would be to wait until we get a more clearer confirmation. And for the love of the franchise, there's no need to be rude to us. [[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]] 17:52, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

::The machine translation is used. I'm sorry for making them embarrass it because of a bad English grammar. However, it is possible enough to tell the mistake.

It is the same one as the sentence of corocoro.
http://gamez.itmedia.co.jp/games/articles/1005/14/news098.html

新たな舞台「イッシュ地方」は、カントーやジョウト地方とは遠く遠く離れた全く趣の異なる土地。

It is true that the fake information has been described to this page. Admit that information on the lie has been treated. [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 18:05, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

:First of all, Japanese is a very difficult language to learn and translate. Errors are bound to be made. We are not purposely lying, but this appears to be a simple mistake. Again, we did not purposely lie, you cannot expect everyone to always get everything perfect. Anyway, I'll let someone else handle this for now. [[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]] 18:18, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

::Thank you for admitting a mistake. It is hoped that the person who has the good sense corrects a sentence when the edit becomes possible.[[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 18:28, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Sawamular101さん、すみませんが、日本人ですか？ [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 19:42, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

:::Yes.[[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 20:42, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

::::Sawamular, are you sure your translation is correct? and ''does it really matter'' if it says the wrong thing? Sometimes information is wrong, and sometimes it changes. It wont hurt anybody if it says the wrong thing for a couple of months until we get a confirmation in English. '''[[User:Blake|Blake]]''' [[User talk:Blake#top|Talk]]·[[Special:Contributions/Blake|Edits]] 19:51, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

"Sawamular, are you sure your translation is correct?"

It is 100% fact. Isshu is located long away from Kanto and Johto. Please call on the friend of you who understands Japanese if you cannot trust my information.

"and does it really matter if it says the wrong thing? "

I want to tell it to esteem an original source. It is insincere to falsify an original source. [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 20:42, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
:日本語を習った時、「○○や○○」は「○○と○○などなど」・・という感じだと教えられました。それで、自分は「カントーやジョウト」が「カントー、ジョウト、などなど」の意味で理解しました。ですから、「カントー、ジョウト、ホウエン、シンオウ」という意味だと思いました。違いますか？
:メチャクチャな日本語すみません。日→英の訳すのは得意なんですけど、まだ日本語で話すのはちょっと難しいんですorz [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 21:56, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
::そうですねえ。。。Testing him, are we Umeko?--[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 22:00, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
:::Guys, enough with the Japanese spelling. --[[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|'''☆''']][[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチュウ!''']] 22:01, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
::::Umeko is testing him to make sure he's the real-deal: a true Japanese speaker. --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 22:11, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
:::::I'm not ''testing'' him; I believe him when he says he's Japanese. I'm trying to communicate. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 22:15, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

返信ありがとうございます。たしかに、「○○や○○」には"などなど"という意味も含まれますが、シンオウやホウエンからも遠いと具体的に記述されていないので付け加えるべきではないです。ホウエンやシンオウからも遠いと主張するのは、"などなど"という曖昧なものの憶測を膨らませた結果でしかありません。

もう一つ、「○○や○○」に含まれる"などなど"には、"語るに値しないその他"という意味も自然に含まれます。シンオウやホウエンは語るに値しない土地でしょうか？

シンオウやホウエンからも遠いのであれば、もっと適切な言葉があります。カントー・ジョウト・ホウエン・シンオウから遠い。今までの地方全てから遠い。このように表現方法はいくらでもあります。カントーやジョウトから遠いという文でホウエンやシンオウも含むのは飛躍しすぎです。

日本語お上手で感激しました。[[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 22:55, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
:そうですか。分かりました。それならば、その部分を書き直す。ありがとうございました！
:To those of you watching, Sawamular has explained the use of the particle や and why I was mistaken for thinking that Hoenn and Sinnoh were necessarily included in the statement. I don't think it would be inappropriate to say that Isshu is ''assumed'' to be distant from Hoenn and Sinnoh as well, as long as we state just that: it is an assumption. It may be more accurate to say that Isshu is confirmed to be distant from the mainland (if we wish to refer to Kanto, Johto, and the other assumed regions directly neighboring them as the "mainland" - this is what I, personally, think of them as, but I'm not sure there's any canon backing to it), but I'll leave that up to discussion. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 23:27, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
::So that means Aomori, Tohoku is open for possibility!? Heck yes! --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 00:09, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
:::http://www.42ch.net/UploaderSmall/source/1277686041.JPG
:::Do you believe tohoku? I think that the possibility of Shanghai and Manhattan is high. There is no big city in aomori (lol.[[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 00:51, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
::::I personally think it's Shanghai (it even looks like {{img|BW Prerelease City entrance.png|this screenshot}} might have kanji/hanzi on the sign :O), but anyway, let's keep this discussion off the talk page, shall we? Bring it to the forums - if you're still allowed to discuss that there, I haven't been keeping much track of what's been going on over there. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 02:26, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

::::: ok, the topic is stopped. I do not go to the forum (Speaking by the machine translation is tired). [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 04:05, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

カントー・ジョウト・ホウエン・シンオウ地方から遠く離れた土地「イッシュ地方」

New source.isshu is far from Sinnoh, Hoenn, kanto, and johto.There was no necessity of the edit.(lol
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ds/irbj/topics/index.html#/file1 [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 08:29, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

== Just a Warrning ==

There are silly and UNCONFIRMED rumors on youtube that Isshu is based on the chugoku (is that spelled right?) region of Japan.
I would advise a watch of this page to prevent vandalism of the page. ([[User:Kmanecke|Kmanecke]] 00:16, 28 June 2010 (UTC))
:Several steps ahead of you. The page has been protected since the page's creation because we knew people would try to put their opinions on the page. ._. ▫▫'''[[User:Tina|ティナ]]'''[[User talk:Tina|♫]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|★]] 00:18, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

== Trivia. ==

It should be added in the Trivia about it being the first reigon to feature different locations depending on the version (black or white) Just thought I'd say --[[User:S2daam|S2daam]] 21:29, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

== Routes ==

It should be added that the Routes in Isshu start over at Route 1 instead of Route 301. Should that be a trivia or in the main article? [[User:Pokemonemerfan1954|Pokemonemerfan1954]] 15:27, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

== Black City/ White Forest ==

I read online that Isshu would have version specific areas, Black Forest in Black, which is supposedly a stereotypical industrail city, and White Forest, A town in White that is close to nature, and even has tall grass in the town. Does anyone think it should be added to the article? [[User:67h5r6h|67h5r6h]] 19:25, 15 July 2010 (UTC)67h5r6h
:It will when an admin gets to it, especially when information is being released almost daily. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psy''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''ライダー''']]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|'''☮''']]'' 19:30, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
::TA. DA. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:23, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

== Add image ==

The image gallery should have the image of Route 1 ([[a:Image:BW Prerelease Route 1.png]]). --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 19:09, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
:Done. --[[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 19:22, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
::Hold on there, SN. I had asked you about the image's whereabouts on the Archives, please respond before asking it to be put everywhere. —♥ [[User:Jello|Jel]][[User Talk:Jello|lo]] 19:36, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
:::Sorry about that. I only go to the Archives when I need to upload an image, so I hadn't gotten your message yet. Anyway, I replied there. --[[User:Shiny Noctowl|Shiny Noctowl]] 19:41, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

== Another warning for the mods. ==

Just a quick warning because of the reveal of Bikutini (Victuni?) and how to get one (the Liberty Ticket). This may cause a surge in debates on the basis of Isshu. Not debating here, just warning. --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 00:46, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
:How is there evena connection between them? --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 00:52, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
::Statue of Liberty, Liberty Island. Just saying. --'''[[User:Midnight Blue|Midnight]] [[User talk:Midnight Blue|''Blue'']]''' 01:08, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
:::A "warning ''for'' the mods"? or a "warning '''from''' the mods"? Because you're not a mod yourself to be stating that in the title....--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 01:34, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
::::A warning ''for'' the mods. I'm not a mod nor do I claim to be one. If I did claim to be one, I would have used "A warning for the other mods", which I did not use. --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 03:36, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
:::::But why warn the mods? they might already know this. --[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Ho-Oh (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Lugia (Pokémon)|ire]] 04:56, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
::::::How would I know if the mods (not trying to insult a mod here) can put the pieces together and sense that there's going to be a huge region speculation rush after a video? I just put it here as a warning. --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 08:08, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Via Filb.de's recent update, we got a Football player as a trainer class. Continuation of the warning from before. --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 05:26, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
:You don't need to warn mods. They have it under control. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 02:05, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
::I feeeeeel like it. >:/ Not like I'm spamming it or anything. --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 05:13, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

==New City revealed==

The new Coro Coro scan reveals information about a new city called Shippo City. It has a Gym and its Gym Leader is called Aloe. Mods should add information about it.--[[User:Toback|Toback]] 14:41, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

==Got a new map image==
File:Isshu_Wide.jpg

But the article's locked. --[[User:Sotomura|Sotomura]] 15:36, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
:That file has been deleted as it's the same as [[a:File:Isshu.jpg]] —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 23:59, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

== It's New York ==
http://sunyshore.com/scrap/bwnewyork.jpg

Original source PokéJungle, reconfirmed by people who found the same magazine in Japan for themselves. Circled text reads "Our adventure's setting is New York?!" --[[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] 03:36, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
:oh look, I live in Isshu...kickass...at least it's finally confirmed.. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 03:39, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
::[http://nyextended.ytmnd.com/ Isshu!] '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:42, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
http://ec2.images-amazon.com/images/I/51c%2BfPmQdbL._SS350_.jpg

It gets into the news in Japan because it differs from the cover actually sold. [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 06:08, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
::I was told that this image was an advertisement for the September 10 issue of the magazine. Take that for what you will. --[[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] 06:15, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

:::http://www.gamememo.com/2010/09/06/bw-issyu-new-york/
:::It is insisted that it be a cover of the early stage. It is mysterious how he obtained the cover of the early stage. Let's wait patiently because it is thought that the content of "Pokemon pia" is passed on in several days. [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 06:22, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

It is described by Pokemon pia that the motif of Isshu is New York. I think it is certain because it is information from the person who bought it. [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 17:03, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
:So it's true after all? [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 17:16, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
::It seems to be mentioned in page 5. Someone might up-load the image. [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 17:29, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

::: http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ds/interview/irbj/vol1/index2.html New source. The motif of Isshu is New York. The origin of the name is so from "One kind/１種類(issyurui)".[[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 01:54, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

:::: [http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/9573/isshu.jpg] -[[User:Pokeant|Pokeant]] 04:14, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

== New Jersey ==

Ok, yeah only New York City was stated as the basis of Isshu, but shouldn't we add New Jersey too since technically the western third of the region would be where Jersey City and Hoboken are. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 05:10, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

== Just throwing this out there ==

The magazine article from PokePia was translated and used the word "Motif", not the word "Model" like when previous regions. Assuming that the word "Motif" means "Model" is like assuming Hoenn is based off some Tropical island and not Kyushu. Go ahead, pull this apart. But PokePia still was translated "[http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/motif Motif]".
--[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 16:56, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

PokePia and the interview above confirmed that the motif of Isshu is NYC. But there's just too many discrepancies to outright say that Isshu is solely based off NYC.

The ones I feel are simple enough:

1 Connections to past games.

If Cynthia is supposedly researching the myths of Arceus, why, may I ask, is she in a place half-way around the world from Japan? That girl from HGSS's Battle Frontier that's now the champion of Isshu? Why is she there? But most importantly, disregarding all the Pokemon from the Dream World, '''Why are there so many old Pokemon in Isshu post E4 if Isshu is on the other side of the world'''?

2 Pokedex.

It's still the National Dex, correct? Then why does it go from PokeJapan (1-493) to the other side of the world in Isshu (494-649)? There's all sorts of places between NYC and Japan. Shouldn't it be something like 1000-1155 instead of 494-649?

3 Size.

Compare the size of Isshu to the size of Sinnoh. It's bigger, right? So why would Isshu be set in an area 484 square Miles (22mi x 22mi)? And what makes NYC so important that it gets an entire region when Game Freak's office's town only gets two in-game Cities?

So yeah, double edit, but only because it was confirmed that "Motif" was said.

--[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 17:16, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

:1) Do we know Cynthia's still researching Arceus? Might she be researching other legends now? And Caitlin seems largely based on a European monarch; why would she be restricted to Japan in that case?
:2) Since when are all databases organized geographically? Kanto's Pokédex entries come first in National order, even though it's smack dab in the center of Japan. And frankly, I was surprised there was so little overlap in Isshu's dex and those of other regions. After all, real-world Japan and America share many species, from rodents to insects to birds.
:3) Sure, the size is inconsistent with past games. But that has occurred in past generations as well. Look at GSC Kanto compared to RBY Kanto, or less dramatically, HGSS Johto to GSC Johto. Perhaps GameFreak thought a denser, more complex area would better do justice to the scope of diversity in NYC. Or perhaps they intend to size up Kanto or Johto next time a remake comes around.
:In fact, you could argue the same thing for any past regions. After all, we have never received confirmation that the past regions correspond to each other geographically the same way they do in the real world. But for the purpose of this article, motif and basis are close to the same. There are surely differences between Isshu and New York, but New York City is still the primary basis. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 18:21, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
::First of all, Motif is nothing like Model. Motif is a pattern on the Model. Motif does not mean Model. Learn English.

::mod·el
::n.
::1. A small object, usually built to scale, that represents in detail another, often larger object.
::2.
::a. A preliminary work or construction that serves as a plan from which a final product is to be made: a clay ::model ready for casting.
::b. Such a work or construction used in testing or perfecting a final product: a test model of a solar-powered ::vehicle.
::3. A schematic description of a system, theory, or phenomenon that accounts for its known or inferred ::properties and may be used for further study of its characteristics: a model of generative grammar; a model of ::an atom; an economic model.
::4. A style or design of an item: My car is last year's model.
::5. One serving as an example to be imitated or compared: a model of decorum. See Synonyms at ideal.
::6. One that serves as the subject for an artist, especially a person employed to pose for a painter, sculptor, ::or photographer.
::7. A person employed to display merchandise, such as clothing or cosmetics.
::8. Zoology An animal whose appearance is copied by a mimic.

::mo·tif (m-tf)
::n.
::1.
::a. A recurrent thematic element in an artistic or literary work.
::b. A dominant theme or central idea.
::2. Music A short rhythmic or melodic passage that is repeated or evoked in various parts of a composition.
::3. A repeated figure or design in architecture or decoration. See Synonyms at figure.

::Now,

::1. Sure, we don't know if Cynthia is researching Arceus still or not. We can figure that out later. But what Pokemon stands more interesting to research (from her point of view) than the Pokemon described from myth in her hometown and the one said to have created the world? That was the reason she was at the Shinto/Sinjoh Ruins. And what part of Caitlin seems largely based off a European Monarch? She has no connections to Team Plasma as far as I can see.
::2. ''Since when are all databases organized geographically? Kanto's Pokédex entries come first in National order, even though it's smack dab in the center of Japan.''

::Kanto is the center of Japan, basically. It was chosen because its the area surrounding Game Freak's office which makes it the center of the Pokemon World.

::''And frankly, I was surprised there was so little overlap in Isshu's dex and those of other regions.''

::Why would you be surprised at all? There's wide dependencies among similar Pokemon in Japan.

::''After all, real-world Japan and America share many species, from rodents to insects to birds.''

::Not the exact same species. And I'm pretty sure that no place shares animals (disregarding zoo's of course) of the exact same species.

::It still does not make sense for the National Pokedex to skip 99% of the land between Japan and NYC. Try to rationalize that. '''I dare you.'''

::3. 3) ''Sure, the size is inconsistent with past games. But that has occurred in past generations as well. Look at GSC Kanto compared to RBY Kanto, or less dramatically, HGSS Johto to GSC Johto. Perhaps GameFreak thought a denser, more complex area would better do justice to the scope of diversity in NYC. Or perhaps they intend to size up Kanto or Johto next time a remake comes around. ''

::Why are you even bringing up comparisons of RBY/GSC Kanto and GSC/HGSS Johto? That has nothing to do with the comparison of DPPt Sinnoh and BW Isshu.

::''In fact, you could argue the same thing for any past regions. After all, we have never received confirmation that the past regions correspond to each other geographically the same way they do in the real world.''

::I'll give you that. But we do have their "Models" so we can logically assume that they fall in the same places in relation to each other as they do in real-life.

::''But for the purpose of this article, motif and basis are close to the same.''

::No, they aren't even close to meaning the same thing. If you really think that, then you need to retake English class. The purpose of this article is to post everything we '''''know''''' about Isshu. Assumptions like "Motif = Basis/Model" are not something we '''''know''''', they're something people '''''assume'''''. And it's confirmed that NYC is Isshu's '''''Motif'''''. '''No one''' has released Isshu's Model.

::''There are surely differences between Isshu and New York, but New York City is still the primary basis.''

::Just FYI, geographical terrain has been mostly kept between the games and real life. Coastlines, mountains, and generally everything about geographical features. Cities have been rearranged and mountains have become volcano's. But unless Game Freak '''really''' changed up the system, we have two unexplained mountain ranges on both sides of Isshu.

::--[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 05:20, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

==Just throwing it out there Part 2==

Hey guys. Please don't argue about this here. And please don't insult other people by telling them to learn English. We don't want it and we don't care. We have a source saying that Isshu is based on NYC. That's awesome. That's all we need. If Game Freak has decided to add in extra bits from other places or even make up their own stuff that's fantastic but Isshu is based on NYC. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 06:28, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
:You have a source saying that Isshu is based off New York when ''word of god'' states that New York is Isshu's ''Motif''? Please don't be pulling another Pokebeach and the secret source...
:--[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 12:30, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

::It is declared that Hoenn Region is Kyushu. It is said that Isshu Region is NY "motif".

::http://www.gamefreak.co.jp/blog/dir/ No.177
::イッシュ地方とした今回の舞台のモチーフはニューヨーク。
::(Isshu Region) The motif of isshu is NY.

::http://www.gamefreak.co.jp/blog/dir/?p=105 No.15
::九州を舞台にしたんです。
::(Hoenn Region) Kyushu is a stage.

::Because volume of information is a little, it might be small mistake that the remark is not consistent. [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 14:35, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
:::Basically, Sawamular just proved that your source is false. If the OFFICIAL GAME FREAK BLOG says that it's a motif, it's a motif. Not a base, not a model and not a stage. A MOTIF.

:::Can we get a mod to fix this page of this completely stupid misconception that's been around since PokePia was first translated?
:::--[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 21:45, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

::::See: http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ds/interview/irbj/vol1/index2.html#list. Masuda and co. explicitly refer to New York as not just Isshu's motif, but also its STAGE (even after reiterating the basis for the other regions). They even go on to address specific locations in NYC as the basis for various areas in Isshu. How is it not NY? [[User:Marlowe|Marlowe]] 01:37, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::Wow. So does that mean this isshu (lol pun) is finally laid to rest? --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 01:46, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::Just for clarification purposes, where exactly on this does it say stage? My japanese is a tad rusty when it comes to Kanji... --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 01:52, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::My rusty Japanese is telling me he's talking about Concert stages leading to the Musical's in BW. It also references the "Stage's Motif New York" (で、まず舞台のモチーフをニューヨークにすることを決めると、). Well? --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 02:03, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

::::::: Masuda speaks the reason why NY is chosen to be a motif of BW. Masuda is said that a lot of famous theaters(Musical) are in Manhattan.　I wanted to do the concert by NY.

::::::: 多種でも遠くから見たときに、１種類に見えるような地方である、ということから「イッシュ」と名付けました。その感じも '''ニューヨークにすごく近いんです'''。
::::::: The source that Mr. AndyPKMN had presented was seen. The supervisor is making remarks that the outlook on the world of isshu is '''near NY'''. [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 02:53, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Well, isn't that vague? '''near NY'''... are you sure that translation is accurate, Sawam? Just to prevent misconceptions, you know. --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 03:09, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::::Is it possible he meant something like "I feel very close to New York" or "It feels similar to New York"? --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 03:19, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

:::::::::'''ニューヨークにすごく近いんです'''
:::::::::"I feel very close to New York". This translation is complete.[[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 03:35, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::So, altogether, the translation does nothing further than reinforce the point that New York is Isshu's motif? Alright then. Thank you, Sawamu! --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 03:38, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::: The remark of Masuda strengthens grounds of motif. Because it was a motif, the word "It is near(近い)" might have been used. If NY is a stage, it is strange to say, "It is near(近い)". [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 03:48, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::::I don't think Masuda would use the same word twice. Motif, stage, he's a creative guy! '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:52, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::::::You're drawing at straws now, TTE. You know Masuda is a smart guy. If he was going to confirm the basis of Isshu at that time, he would have used words that would not be motif. In fact, the fact that he used the word motif instead of a simple Japanese word proves that he knows what it means and used it for that reason.

:::::::::::::Fix the page.

:::::::::::::NOW.

:::::::::::::--[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 03:57, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

::::::::::::::I really don't understand your logic here. Combine the fact the supervisors outright clarify how they've based certain locations out of specific areas in Isshu (the musicals, the bridge being based off Brooklyn Bridge, etc.) with the fact Isshu's general shape looks extremely similar to New York. If that's not enough, look at the countless U.S. cultural references in the game. Are you seriously trying to insinuate it's not based on NYC? How could it possibly be based on anything else? You say you want to go by facts, and the fact is that Masuda has attributed New York and ONLY New York as Isshu's inspiration (motif or not). That's really all we need. Get over yourself. [[User:Marlowe|Marlowe]] 05:20, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

:::::::::::::::Ha. Hahahahahahahahahaaha. Ahahahahahahaha. You don't understand the logic, bub? Get a dictionary. Motif. Define it.

:::::::::::::::Actually, don't bother. I'll just quote what I've said before on TTEnchidna's talk page

:::::::::::::::"So no, they would not use the word motif to describe the land's basis. They would use the word motif. Motif, when used for Hoenn, would describe Hoenn's tropical feel. Not the terrain and not it's coastline. The terrain of all regions tend to match the terrain of their real-life counterparts. Not climates. Climates have definitely been changed. But the geographic terrain is the same.

:::::::::::::::And FYI, Manhattan does not have dual mountain ranges.

:::::::::::::::Also, just to check, do you understand the definition of the word "motif"?

:::::::::::::::Motif is to Model/Stage/Basis as is the pattern of a shirt to the shirt itself. The motif of a shirt could be anything: Tye-dye, pinstripe, plaid. But does that change the base model of the shirt? No, it doesn't. Say you grab 3 of the same shirts off a shirt making line before they go to dyeing. They're all the same color: a dull white. A blank slate. Then you proceed to dye the first shirt red, the second shirt blue and the third shirt purple. Does that change the base shirts' shape or anything? No. It changes the motif (color) of the shirt.

:::::::::::::::This can also be applied to the Pokemon series: The motif of Isshu is New York. Take away all the cities, roads and non-geographical features. What are you left with? You're left with the base of Isshu, a location with three-peninsulas , dual mountain ranges on opposite peninsulas and a lake on the middle one. Does the geographical terrain of Manhattan match up to that?

:::::::::::::::Simple answer: No, it does not."

:::::::::::::::Now the question remains, coupled with the fact that a fluent speaker of Japanese (that has to use a translator to post here in english!) has stated that, based on the article ''you provided'', there is more proof for the "motif" side than the "model/stage/basis" side when it comes to New York and Isshu, why don't you understand?

:::::::::::::::Now good night and have fun trying to prove me and the power of facts wrong. --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 05:34, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

May I say the impression of the game of a Japanese version?

The large majority of the Pokémon Trainer of isshu has a Japanese name(It was felt that it was roughly about 70%). Because the currency was yen, it felt odd though it knew that NY had been chosen as the stage(Motif).

In a Japanese version, I think that I became making not to think that isshu is a foreign country as much as possible. However, a Japanese version is original.

I feel the motif more correct. [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 06:28, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
:Consider Kanto uses Pokémon ''Dollars'' in the rest of the world. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:02, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

:: A Japanese version separately treats Pokédollar and Yen. Pokédollar is adopted in Orre region of the Arizona motif. It is strange not to apply Pokédollar with isshu. If it is a city of the USA origin, the same currency as Orre might be suitable. [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 10:02, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

@ Mackinz: I don't understand because I've repeatedly mentioned how Masuda proceeded to reveal the basis of Isshu's locations. For example, Sky Arrow Bridge IS based on New York's Brooklyn Bridge. It doesn't follow to say NY is merely the motif for Isshu when we know for certain that the BASIS of specific areas are taken from Manhattan and its surroundings. It doesn't even have to be attributed to Isshu as a whole because the facts so far demonstrate how NYC plays at least a partial role in the basis of B/W's region. Ergo, there is more factual evidence for New York than against it. As far as currency goes, it matters little since Isshu was long confirmed to have been a foreign land from its predecessors (i.e. across the sea, only reached by boat/plane, etc). [[User:Marlowe|Marlowe]] 13:13, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

I've also re-edited the Isshu page. Disregarding my own personal opinion on the matter, we can't say for a fact that Isshu is NOT explicitly based on New York. "Drawing inspiration" will suffice for now. [[User:Marlowe|Marlowe]] 13:37, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

:You want me to explain Marlowe? Fine. I'll make it as simple as possible.

:Anything not geographical (elevation of land, coastline) is part of the base. Everything else (climate, buildings, road, people) is part of the motif of the area.

:Take Hoenn for example: Hoenn obviously has a tropical motif going for it. However, the climate is much different from that of Kyushu in real life. So we cannot say that Kyushu was the inspiration (basis) for the climate. That would be regulated to the motif.

:Take also the difference in population of Hoenn and Kyushu: Hoenn has way less population. Since it doesn't maintain the population, the population does not remain part of the basis. It becomes part of the motif (I.E. the low population combined with the tropical feel makes it feel like a loosely populated tropical island which, obviously, Kyushu is not).

:Now, onto buildings: Buildings are determined and built by the people living there. They also escalate the motif of the area (I.E. Fortree's Tree Houses add to the tropical feel). Since there are also a lot less buildings (similar to population), we cannot say that buildings are part of the basis because, if they did, the entire Hoenn region would not feel like a tropical island, it would feel like a city-locked island.

:Now think about it, replacing Hoenn with Isshu.

:Going to change the page back now.

:--[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 14:02, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Now you're just twisting the meaning of basis to match your own interpretation. No, it does not have to be solely geography-based; according to the very definition of BASIS, Isshu's Sky Arrow Bridge is BASED on New York's Brooklyn Bridge. It is the foundation for it, the fundamental groundwork. Stop trying to circumvent that. As for my re-editing the Isshu page, I'm trying to at least set up a middle ground between you and I here. Unless Masuda came right out and said, "No, Isshu is not based on New York" you can't say for certain that it isn't. We both know that it at least exists as some form of inspiration. It is unnecessary and downright misleading to add any more to the page than the "drawing inspiration" bit. [[User:Marlowe|Marlowe]] 14:14, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

:You still don't understand the meaning of motif, model, stage and basis, huh?

:Didn't I tell you to get a dictionary?

:Ah well. I'll just define them for you.

:MOTIF

:1. (5) motif, motive

:(a design or figure that consists of recurring shapes or colors, as in architecture or decoration)
:2. (1) motif, motive

:(a theme that is repeated or elaborated in a piece of music)
:3. (1) theme, motif

:(a unifying idea that is a recurrent element in literary or artistic work; "it was the usual `boy gets girl' theme"

:If that isn't enough, I'll bring out some more definitions for you.

:MODEL

:1. (19) model, theoretical account, framework

:(a hypothetical description of a complex entity or process; "the computer program was based on a model of the circulatory and respiratory systems")
:2. (11) model

:(a type of product; "his car was an old model")
:3. (6) model, poser

:(a person who poses for a photographer or painter or sculptor; "the president didn't have time to be a model so the artist worked from photos")
:4. (4) model, simulation

:(representation of something (sometimes on a smaller scale))
:5. (3) exemplar, example, model, good example

:(something to be imitated; "an exemplar of success"; "a model of clarity"; "he is the very model of a modern major general")
:6. (1) model, role model

:(someone worthy of imitation; "every child needs a role model")
:7. (1) model, example

:(a representative form or pattern; "I profited from his example")
:8. mannequin, manikin, mannikin, manakin, fashion model, model

:(a woman who wears clothes to display fashions; "she was too fat to be a mannequin")
:9. model, modelling, modeling

:(the act of representing something (usually on a smaller scale))

:BASIS

:1. (38) footing, basis, ground

:(a relation that provides the foundation for something; "they were on a friendly footing"; "he worked on an interim basis")
:2. (28) basis, base, foundation, fundament, groundwork, cornerstone

:(the fundamental assumptions from which something is begun or developed or calculated or explained; "the whole argument rested on a basis of conjecture")
:3. basis, base

:(the most important or necessary part of something; "the basis of this drink is orange juice")

:STAGE

:1. (25) phase, stage

:(any distinct time period in a sequence of events; "we are in a transitional stage in which many former ideas must be revised or rejected")
:2. (18) degree, level, stage, point

:(a specific identifiable position in a continuum or series or especially in a process; "a remarkable degree of frankness"; "at what stage are the social sciences?")
:3. (15) stage

:(a large platform on which people can stand and can be seen by an audience; "he clambered up onto the stage and got the actors to help him into the box")
:4. (6) stage

:(the theater as a profession (usually `the stage'); "an early movie simply showed a long kiss by two actors of the contemporary stage")
:5. (2) stagecoach, stage

:(a large coach-and-four formerly used to carry passengers and mail on regular routes between towns; "we went out of town together by stage about ten or twelve miles")
:6. (2) stage, leg

:(a section or portion of a journey or course; "then we embarked on the second stage of our Caribbean cruise")
:7. (1) stage

:(any scene regarded as a setting for exhibiting or doing something; "All the world's a stage"
:8. stage, microscope stage

:(a small platform on a microscope where the specimen is mounted for examination)

:You do remember that Junichi Masuda has said nothing more than "motif", correct? Now, if he '''meant''' something else, don't you think he would use the Japanese word for stage (like he did for Hoenn and Kyushu) instead of the ENGLISH word, motif?

:The fact is, no matter how you read it, Junichi Masuda and the Development team of the Pokemon series have confirmed that New York is Isshu's motif. They have not confirmed anything beyond that. For all we know, it could be explicitly based on New York. '''However''', at this point, it would be an '''assumption''' which is what I've been trying to get rid of since I started this section. ''Everyone assumes'' that New York is the basis of Isshu. ''It is confirmed'' ,not an assumption, that Isshu draws decorative inspiration (a.k.a. motif) from New York. '''''Nothing beyond that is confirmed'''''. If you continue to edit the Isshu page, I will ask Archaic to do something.

:--[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 14:27, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

I have edited the page to maintain the same words but also to make it known that we do not know if he meant "not explicitly based off of New York". Happy? --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 14:37, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

::I think you're being very unreasonable. I'll say this again. Strictly in terms of my editing the page, I'm not even claiming that Isshu is based on New York -- I'm only leaving it at the simple fact that Isshu draws inspiration from it. However, you cannot say that it isn't explicitly based on NYC because you don't know for certain whether it's based on it or not. You've clarified before that you're only trying to use the facts instead of common speculation. I agree, but the page revision shouldn't go from "Isshu is based on Manhattan, New York" to "Isshu draws inspiration from Manhattan, New York but is not explicitly based on New York". Rather, leaving it at "Isshu draws inspiration from Manhattan, New York" is much more accurate to Masuda's statement and not only sets up a reasonable middle ground between us, it also agrees with your original intention to change the article. EDIT: I suppose that's good enough, though I still find it slightly unnecessary.

::And please, cut the "LOOK AT THE DICTIONARY" crap. I've checked the dictionary and in the case of Brooklyn Bridge, the terms 'motif' and 'basis' are not mutually exclusive. [[User:Marlowe|Marlowe]] 14:47, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

:::I'm working with the wording of the first paragraph (to include the word motif) as we speak. However, I did already edit in

:::"Like prior regions, its general layout and coastline is based upon a real-world location. It is not known where it is based exactly, but an interview with Junichi Masuda and the rest of the development team has stated "Manhattan of New York is Isshu's motif". [http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/motif]

:::While the largest of its cities, Hiun City, draws heavily on the densely-populated area of Lower Manhattan, to the north, rather than more cityscape, a vast desert lies. To the west and east, there are great mountains, as well, and rather than urban areas, aside from Hiun, most of Isshu is decidedly rural."

:::Give me a few minutes.

:::--[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 14:49, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

::::I guess the neutrality will suffice for me. We'll agree to disagree on the basing of Isshu, so I'll leave the remainder of this debate to anyone else wanting to pick it up. I think it's important to note though that even if Isshu isn't based on NYC, certain areas in the region are still linguistically based off their Manhattan counterparts. So NYC does at least play a role in Isshu's basing to SOME extent, which in my opinion presupposes the Isshu = New York argument.[[User:Marlowe|Marlowe]] 14:56, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

:::::Marlowe, the motif of Isshu is New York. That means the '''theme''' (hey look, a synonym :D) of Isshu is New York. So of course it would maintain the things that make New York recognizable. The bridges, Huin city and the similar coastline are all there for a reason. Its all for maintaining the '''theme''' of New York.
:::::But I'm not debating the basis of Isshu here.
:::::--[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 15:12, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::Let me get this straight. You admit that Hiun City has many things that New York has, even has a New York theme, but you REFUSE to believe that Isshu is based on New York and are crusading that New York is simply the motif, even going to so far as to assume that the real world and the Pokemon world are interchangeable, when Hoenn has proven they aren't?--[[User:Ryuutakeshi|Ryuutakeshi]] 17:14, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::::Oh, hey Ryuu! Nice to see you on Bulbapedia.
:::::::I refuse to believe things that aren't facts.
:::::::Fact: New York is Isshu's motif. (Confirmed by Junichi Masuda on both Game Freak's official blog and in the interview posted on Nintendo.Co.Jp)
:::::::Assumption: OMFG! That means Isshu is New York! OMG!1!
:::::::Fact: Motif means "theme".
:::::::Fact: Hoenn, when it's basis of Kyushu was confirmed, used the Japanese word for "stage".
:::::::Fact: Isshu, when the interview was first shown in PokePia, was confirmed to use the English word "motif".
:::::::Fact: Basis and Motif mean two separate things.
:::::::Fact: This page used the assumption that Motif means Basis.
:::::::Fact: Motif does not mean Basis.
:::::::My thoughts: If Junichi Masuda used the word "motif" and meant "basis", why wouldn't he use the same word he used when he revealed the basis (stage) of Hoenn to be Kyushu? The fact that he used the English word "motif" should prove he knew what he was talking about. That means that Mr. Masuda meant the word "Motif"!

:::::::So yes, I admit that Huin City has many things New York has. I never denied that Isshu uses New York as a theme. I do deny the assumption that, because Isshu uses New York as a theme, Isshu ''is'' New York.

:::::::Frankly, Ryuu, unless Junichi Masuda comes out and makes a blog saying "Yeah, we used Manhattan as the stage of Isshu", we should keep the facts straight and in the open. The fact is "We used New York as the motif of Isshu". Nothing to be taken any other way. Motif does not mean Model/Basis/Stage. It should not be taken any other way than the definition of Motif. And it should be allowed to discuss Isshu being based somewhere else because we do not have confirmation from Game Freak or Nintendo of where Isshu is based.

:::::::Am I making sense?

:::::::--[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 18:55, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

::::::::To be fair, Mackinz, none of the regions are synonymous with their real-life counterparts. Johto isn't Kansai, Hoenn isn't Kyushu, Sinnoh isn't Hokkaido, etc. They're simply based on them. While it's true Masuda used the term "motif" when describing Isshu, his context doesn't exactly set it apart as a mutually exclusive term from basis. For example, we know for certain that specific areas derive inspiration from areas in NYC in the EXACT same way other regions have a basis of specific cities and buildings in their counterparts, so I think we can safely say we have enough evidence to qualify New York being the equivalent of Isshu as Kansai, for example, is the equivalent of Johto. You're correct in saying the definitions motif and basis aren't the same, but they do have similar enough contexts in the case of comparing each region's confirmed area inspirations. [[User:Marlowe|Marlowe]] 19:22, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::I'll give you that, Marlowe. But still, it is not a safe assumption at this time to assume that Isshu is New York (and it is still open because of the New York motif being able to explain a lot). So can we leave it at that? I don't have time right now to debate and argue with you. --[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] 19:30, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::To quote a great U.S. President, "It depends on what the definition of the word ‘is’ is." No one's saying Isshu "is" New York. We're saying it's "based on" New York. Which is true, given that motifs from New York such as the coastline, bridges, diverse culture, and lower Manhattan drive the composition of the region. You keep insisting that motif doesn't mean basis, but what do we mean when we refer to the basis of other regions? We mean that they include motifs of the real-world counterparts, including the coastline, landmarks, and cultures. Really, there's nothing separating Isshu's basis from the other regions', besides the fact that Game Freak was somewhat more open to breaks from reality (and why shouldn't they be? Unlike with previous regions, the main game staff did not include anyone native to New York, unlike with previous games.). --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 20:38, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
Okay guys, please quit it with the arguing. Isshu is based on New York, and there's really absolutely no arguing this. The context of the interview as a whole makes it clear that Isshu is the New York as Hoenn is to Kyushu, Johto is the Kansai, etc. The nuances you're arguing really aren't present, and if they are, it's not enough to sway Bulbapedia's scale of "what makes X based on Y." So shut up and stop arguing, or else you are subject to a temporary block for insubordination. Thanks. [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 02:46, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

==Outdated Notice?==

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Is this article really outdated or is this just one of the spams. I'm going to remove it but if it isn't please put it back for me. ([[User:Pokemaster97|Pokemaster97]] 14:09, 3 October 2010 (UTC))
:Yeah, it is outdated. Black and White have been released and the article needs to start looking like other region's pages now. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 20:17, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

i updated this to the format like the other regions and it was removed!--[[User:Shaymin Master426|Shaymin Master426]] 19:56, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
:No you didn't. You replaced content with stuff that was already lower on the page. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 20:17, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

== New Map of isshu. ==

http://up3.viploader.net/game/src/vlgame026784.jpg

It is isshu map of the ANIME version. It confirmed it by 001 stories. [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 09:09, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

:Good idea, but could you find a better picture?--[[User:Si6x12|'''Si6''']][[User Talk:Si6x12|'''x12''']] 15:15, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
::I obtained this image by chance. I'm sorry for being not able to offer a high-quality image. [[User:Sawamular101|Sawamular101]] 16:05, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
:::Well, I would add it.--[[User:Si6x12|'''Si6''']][[User Talk:Si6x12|'''x12''']] 20:32, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

== A guess on Etymology ==
Well I'll get the silly one out of the way: *'''Un'''*ited States *'''of A'''*merica. It makes me think of general Japanese style shortening like *'''Poke'''*tto *'''Mon'''*suta. I knew the region was based on USA, so I figured the localization was done since it's a "home turf" based decision like how the Japanese regions stayed untouched. I was expecting the other localizations to use Unova, but my guess on the method sort of works for the others. The following are what respective speakers call USA. French: États-*'''Unis'''* (Unys) German: Ver*'''ein'''*igte Staaten (Einall) My stab in of "ein" is probably improper but it does mean one, and "all" may be aus*'''ahl'''*. I've come across "allein" which can refer to "single". Italian: Stati *'''Uni'''*ti d'America (Unima). The "ma" may refer to ris*'''ma'''*. I'm lost with the Spanish localization, I don't see any links at all. "United" is fairly enough though, since a literal USA basis is silly, but hey it works haha. I'm not going to bother comparing decisions made with Orre. [[User:Deadpool|Deadpool]] 09:34, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
:Somehow I REALLY doubt it comes from United States of America. It's just too much of a stretch to assume NoA cherry picked syllables and letters from the location's basis when that's never been done before, even in the Japanese games. I think it's just derived from the meaning it has in Japanese, "one variety". Uno, one, and -va, for variety. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 13:26, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
I actually doubt they'll say what it stands for (if it even is an acronym of something). No one can say for sure and all we can do is just speculate which provides no real evidence. Maybe this should be a forum topic to further discuss on on what people can guess the name stands for? - '''[[User:Vhayes1992|Vhayes]][[User talk:Vhayes1992|1992]]''' 18:20, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

== Bridges ==

In an interview on G4tv.com, Junichi Masuda expressed his fascination with bridges, especially the Golden Gate bridge which closes resembles some of the bridges in Unova; would this be worth adding to the Trivia? I don't know how to add a reference. [[User:Taromon777|'''T a r o m o n''']] 13:24, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Sounds like it would be relevant to put in one of the bridge articles, like Sky Arrow. I would wait for a higher up to aprove though. as for the references, i'm not sure either. [[User:NotSteve|NotSteve]]19:40, 8 February 2011 (EST)

== Alternative region translation? ==

I don't know if this is the correct place to put this, but here goes...

I was looking in my local GAME store (London, UK) today when I noticed the following on a display box: "Explore the new region of Alleos, and save it from the nefarious plans of Team Plasma. The Alleos region also contains two version-exclusive areas depending on which version of Pokémon the player owns - White Forest and Black City". However, both the Nintendo of Europe and GAME UK websites use Unova. Has anyone else seen this region name, or does anyone know of an explanation for it? It wasn't just on one box either, I checked several (and got some odd looks from the shop staff)
[[User:Imair|Imair]] 00:55, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
:[http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showthread.php?t=95403 This has already been discussed on the forums.] —[[User:Minimiscience|Minimiscience]] 00:59, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

== Unova trivia ==

Should it be stated that Unova is the first region name not to have a long o sound? --[[User:Snivy4Ever|Snivy4Ever]] 22:03, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
:It's already there. Look again. [[Typhlosion|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon|★]] [[User_talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]] 22:05, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
:: Doesn't that depend on how you pronounce it? [[User:Gliscorguy54|Gliscorguy54]] 22:07, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
:::It's pronounced (you-nuh-vuh) in the English version. --[[User:Snivy4Ever|Snivy4Ever]] 22:27, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
:::: I pronounce it (u-nOva), but that doesn't mean either of us are right. [[User:Gliscorguy54|Gliscorguy54]] 22:28, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
:::::Snivy was referring to how it's pronounced in the Anime, in which case it would be "you-nuh-vuh." [[Typhlosion|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon|★]] [[User_talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]] 22:30, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
::::::Like Gliscorguy54 said, no one is either right. Not even the anime. Anybody can pronounce it however they want to. :/ --[[User:Han Ji-Wan|Han Ji-Wan]] 22:50, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
:::::::Oh I know. :P [[M12|I know that all too well...]]. I just thought their source should be mentioned. [[Typhlosion|★]][[User:Jo The Marten|Jo the Marten]][[Flygon|★]] [[User_talk:Jo The Marten|ಠ_ಠ]] 22:52, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
::::::::The official pronunciation is the official pronunciation, it wasn't how I was saying it till I saw BW001 but I know now that I was wrong and it is in fact (you-nuh-vuh) (if that's how you want pronounced spelling as (doesn't matter)) "Note that all Bulbapedia's information must come from official sources" - the anime is pretty official in my book —[[User:Lord mada|Mada-sama]] ([[User talk:Lord mada|Talk to me!]])— 23:42, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
:::::::::I don't watch the anime. I'm not going to let the anime dictate how I should pronounce every names in the Pokemon fandom. Sorry. :/ --[[User:Han Ji-Wan|Han Ji-Wan]] 03:35, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
::::::::::All I mean is that it's our job to relay the official details for readers. not decide how to pronounce things and the official line is (you-nuh-vuh), say it how you like I was saying it the previously assumed way too but I prefer it the new way (it just never occurred to me). the anime is an official source weather you watch it or not, the trivia still stands —[[User:Lord mada|Mada-sama]] ([[User talk:Lord mada|Talk to me!]])— 03:56, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
:::::::::::Even the most recent Black and White version commercials in North America pronounce it (you-nuh-vuh)--[[User:Snivy4Ever|Snivy4Ever]] 04:50, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
::::::::::::Hate to break it to you, but the anime is dubbed by TPCi, the company that gives the games their English names. Whether you want to believe it or not, that is the official pronunciation. Not to mention that's how it is pronounced in the Black and White promos. It's official, No Ifs Ands or Butts. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 04:54, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

==Locked==
Why is the Unova article locked?? --[[User:Han Ji-Wan|Han Ji-Wan]] 05:25, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

== Battle Frontier ==

Isn't it wrong to say that Unova is the only region without a battle frontier as a battle frontier always comes in the 3rd version of the game("Grey")? [[User:Icy|Icy]] 18:39, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
:No it isn't wrong to say that because the third version hasn't even been out or even confirmed. Just wait till we get an official confirmation, which'll take several years. :] --[[User:Han Ji-Wan|Han Ji-Wan]] 19:52, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
::Orre would like to say hello :P [[User:Tokeupdude|Tokeupdude]] 15:51, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
:::It is the only main series region. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:26, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
:According to THIS website, Orre is also a main series region. So yeah, it's wrong. You should change it, unless you're cool with giving people false information.{{unsigned|Tokeupdude}}
:: Orre isn't a Main series region, it is a spin-off region. As listed in the template below the article.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Reshiram (Pokémon)|orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F''']][[Zekrom (Pokémon)|ire]] 06:14, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
:Then how come when you look up any Pokemon's game locations Colosseum and XD are listed under the main games section and not side games? For example, I'm looking at Fearow's page right now and both Colosseum and XD are under main games Gen 3. [[User:Tokeupdude|Tokeupdude]] 10:16, 17 December 2011 (UTC)
::Nevermind! Orre is a side-region to the main series and the others are "spin-off" regions. I get it now ;) [[User:Tokeupdude|Tokeupdude]] 15:38, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

== Location? ==

Does anyone know where Unova is located, like North of Hoenn, or East of Johto? [[User:Iml908|Iml908]] 02:22, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
:It's location from the other main series regions is not yet known. All we know for sure is that it is FAR away from Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, and Sinnoh. My best guess would be that it is both east and west of the other regions, just like how the United States (or NYC in this case) is both east and west. [[User:Han Ji-Wan|Han Ji-Wan]] 03:28, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

== Castelia population ==

Shouldn't it be unknown? Endless people walk up and down the streets in some areas. [[User:Tokeupdude|Tokeupdude]] 15:49, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
:The population of Castelia is static people only. The endless people are excluded. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|'''Snorlax''']][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|'''Monster''']] 13:26, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

== Contest in the Trivia ==

Should This be add this in the trivia?
:Only Region without a Pokémon Contest.
Are we allowed to change the TRIVIA or is it still the Admin?[[User:Taposa|Taposa]] 14:03, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
:What do you mean? It isn't true. Kanto and Johto are anime only. Then there are the Orange Islands, Sevii Islands, Orre etc. None of those have contests. ☆[[User:Solar Dragon|The]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|Solar]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|Dragon]]☆ 14:47, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

::I meant in Games.[[User:Taposa|Taposa]] 15:58, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
:::As Solar Dragon said, Kanto and Johto don't have contests in the games.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|電禅]][[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|Den Zen]]''' 16:00, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
::::Yes, and Orre and the Sevii Islands haven't been seen in the anime so they don't have contests in either canon. ☆[[User:Solar Dragon|The]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|Solar]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|Dragon]]☆ 16:51, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

== Only region outside of Japan? ==
:"Unova is the only main series region to be based on a real-world region outside of Japan."
What? Are we forgetting about Orre, based on Phoenix, Arizona? --[[User:ChReNiC|ChReNiC]] 23:46, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
:It's on side series now. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 23:48, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
::The [[Battle Zone]] in Sinnoh is based on Russia, and it is referred to in game as a region (or sub-region, like the Sevii's). '''X'''[[User:Vuvuzela2010|'''Vuvuzela2010''']]'''X''' 23:50, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
@Ataro I think one of the problems is that Colosseum and XD are still listed as main series games on the game template. If it is side series now the template needs to be changed accordingly. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 23:54, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
:::The bulk of the region is still based on Japan, ALL of UNOVA is not. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 06:41, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
::::Yes that's nice, but what about [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Template:Main_series the template?]. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 16:49, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
:::::First, don't be rude. Second, it was already stated that it hasn't been changed yet. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 21:08, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
::::::I'm sorry if I came off as rude, but when was that stated that it hasn't been changed yet? There was no response to the initial question I brought up. At least not on this talkpage. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 22:08, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
:::::::About that template, if Colosseum and XD are moved or removed because they are side series, then the same will have to be done for Stadium, Box, Ranch, ect. '''X'''[[User:Vuvuzela2010|'''Vuvuzela2010''']]'''X''' 22:32, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
::::::::Then those should be removed as well. They are not main series games and it's very misleading for them to be listed on the template. [[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]] 00:19, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

== another trivia? ==

unova does not have any pokemon blocking the player's progress. kanto has snorlax, johto has sudowoodo, hoenn has wailmer (blocking lilycove city preventing the player from surfing) and sinnoh has psyduck blocking the road due to headache. -[[User:Pokeant|Pokeant]] 16:01, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

:I think that's worth adding. [[User:ZMT123|ZMT123]] 19:20, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

== Black and White 2 Coro Coro Leaks ==

Is it worth adding a section for Hiougi City yet?

Also, the information about Unova being covered in ice is not confirmed; translations seem to suggest that it is the map covered in ice a la the clouds covering the initial Unova reveal, rather than the region itself being covered. [[User:Exterminieren|Exterminieren]] 20:25, 12 April 2012 (UTC)Exterminieren
:Until further information is revealed, the admin team have decided to crackdown on speculation until more information is discovered. Thus the protection on a number of pages. Sort of related to the clouds, like you mentioned. --[[User:Spriteit|Spriteit]] 06:11, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

== BW2 ==

May an administrator please add in the intro paragraph that it is also the setting of Black and White 2? [[User:ZMT123|ZMT123]] 18:19, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
:Done. [[User:Masatoshi|Masatoshi]][[User_talk:Masatoshi|''talk'']] 18:37, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

== Image label ==

Could an admin add that the picture in the info box is for Black 2/white 2 to clear confusion up? If it's not necessary, fine.[[User:Bulbasect|Bulbasect]] 13:09, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

== The Ice layer ==

I don't know if this is the right place to discuss it, but are we certain the ice actually covers the land, and doesn't simply obscure our view of a secret? --[[User:NotSteve|'''Not''']][[User talk:NotSteve|''S'''''teve''' 0_o]] 20:32, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
:No, we are not certain. [[User:ZMT123|ZMT123]] 23:31, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

The Black 2 and White 2 website says that Unova really is frozen over due to some freak incident. [[User:Pikatwig|Pikatwig]] ([[User talk:Pikatwig|talk]]) 09:26, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

== Remove ice covering speculation ==

May an administrator please remove the part about the ice actually covering the region in the Between Pokemon Black and White and Black and White 2 paragraph. That's speculation. [[User:ZMT123|ZMT123]] 16:17, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
:Hello? Can an administrator please remove that speculation? It's really not supposed to be there. [[User:ZMT123|ZMT123]] 23:23, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
::The ice is confirmed to be fake. [[User:Chomper4|Chomper4]] ([[User talk:Chomper4|talk]]) 01:10, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
:::Where was that confirmation? Most sites have translated the official site as saying that the ice is from an accident in the rural areas....that makes it sound real. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 05:21, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

== Trivia Issue ==

The trivia section states that "Unova is the only region without an actual or former Rock-type Gym." However, Johto did not have one either, though its neighbor, Kanto, did. I thought it'd be better to bring it up here rather than edit it out because there may be a reason for having that in the article that I am unaware of...or something like that. [[User:CrimsonCerberus|CrimsonCerberus]] 20:05, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
:That's why it says "or former". Jasmine is stated in the Johto games to have been a rock specialist gym leader until her Onix evoled into a Steelix and she changed to Steel. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 21:06, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

== Non-icy B2W2 ==

Has any such map yet been released? --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 17:31, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

== Unova Nationality ==

Despite it being heavily implied that Unova is far away from the other regions (with the reset route system and being based on New York), something came to my attention stating otherwise. In BW2 Crasher Wake tells the player that "Everyone says I'm a wrestler from abroad, but the truth is... I was born and raised in the Sinnoh region! It's what they call my gimmick!" It seems that Unova is undeniably in the same country, and likely way way closer to the other regions than Japan is to America. Should there be something added to the page to reflect it's nationality? --[[User:MicManGuy|MicManGuy]] ([[User talk:MicManGuy|talk]]) 11:12, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
:I'm parsing that as "Everyone (in Sinnoh), says I'm a wrestler from abroad", not "Everyone (here) says I'm a wrestler from abroad. It really doesn't say much of anything about say anything about the closeness of Unova to other places. --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 14:37, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
::Yeah but he's not in Sinnoh. He's in Unova when he says that. If Sinnoh is really "abroad" relative to Unova, it wouldn't just be a gimmick, it'd actually be true. --[[User:MicManGuy|MicManGuy]] ([[User talk:MicManGuy|talk]]) 16:58, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

== False trivia ==

Unova is not the only region without a Rock type gym, Johto didn't have one either. [[User:Shanicpower|Shanicpower]] ([[User talk:Shanicpower|talk]]) 09:58, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
:It says "an actual or former". Jasmine was a former Rock-type trainer before she became a Steel-type trainer. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * the [[User talk:ArcToraphim|Arc]] [[Special:Contributions/ArcToraphim|Toraph]] 10:02, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

== Unova Map of Sequels instead of the First Games? ==

I apologize if this has already been discussed - I couldn't find it in this talk section. But I noticed that the main image for the page uses the region map from the original Black and White games, with the Black/White 2 map being slightly lower down in the article. Shouldn't it be the other way around, seeing as the BW2 map has more locations and is more 'current' within the Pokémon world? --[[User:Evacino|'''evacino''']][[User talk:Evacino|''' (talk)''']] 01:19, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:While this should be the case, we do not have a proper image of Unova showing all the new locations from BW2. The only images of BW2 Unova have the ice covering the eastern portion of the map or labels all over the place. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 03:26, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
::I was talking about [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:Unova_B2W2_alt.png this BW2 image] as compared to the [http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/4/42/Unova_alt.png current one]. Is that BW2 one a problem as it's at a slight angle or the like? --[[User:Evacino|'''evacino''']][[User talk:Evacino|''' (talk)''']] 04:06, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:::Like I said, it's not a proper image. It's angled, it's shaded oddly, and it doesn't show the whole region. --[[User:HoennMaster|Hoenn]][[User talk:HoennMaster|Master]] 04:22, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
::::Ah, that makes perfect sense then. It's a shame Game Freak have never released the full, non-icy version of the image. It's odd as well since what can be seen of the BW2 map is basically the first Unova map but with a few added changes. The closest image I can find to what it might of looked like is [http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2014/134/8/f/unova_region_full_map_by_jcferggy-d7ibhxw.jpg this], which is a Photoshop of both maps together so it looks like the ice is removed. It's actually really well done considering! --[[User:Evacino|'''evacino''']][[User talk:Evacino|''' (talk)''']] 04:37, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

== Besuto Uisshu ==

Do you not think that it is a coincidence that, with Japanese pronunciation and spelling, "Wishes" in "[[Best Wishes series|Best Wishes]]" is pronounced and spelled almost the same as "Isshu" in "[[Unova|Isshu-chihō]]"? [[User:Torr3|Torr3]] ([[User talk:Torr3|talk]]) 14:22, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

== B2W2 map ==

There is a full B2W2 map at http://im.ziffdavisinternational.com/ign_de/screenshot/default/einall-s2w2_wn21.jpg
It should replace File:Unova_B2W2_alt.png [[User:Lmoamemesxd|Lmoamemesxd]] ([[User talk:Lmoamemesxd|talk]]) 15:43, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for replacing the angled one with the one on there and PokéWiki. --[[User:Lmoamemesxd|Lmoamemesxd]] ([[User talk:Lmoamemesxd|talk]]) 10:30, 13 August 2016 (UTC)

Template talk:User Favorite Region

2016-08-11T14:06:33Z

Lmoamemesxd: Created page with "== Kalos and Alola == Shouldn't we add Kalos and Alola with their respective colours to this template? --~~~~"

== Kalos and Alola ==
Shouldn't we add Kalos and Alola with their respective colours to this template? --[[User:Lmoamemesxd|Lmoamemesxd]] ([[User talk:Lmoamemesxd|talk]]) 14:06, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

Team (Mystery Dungeon)

2016-08-10T05:25:07Z

Lmoamemesxd: "Treaures" -> "Treasures"

{{search|groups of Pokémon in the [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon series]]|the Pokémon carried by [[Pokémon Trainer|Trainers]]|Party}} ''For groups that exploit Pokémon, see [[villainous teams]].''
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[[File:PMD Exploration Team artwork.png|thumb|320px|Exploration Team artwork]]
'''Rescue teams''' (Japanese: '''{{tt|救助隊|きゅうじょたい}}''' ''rescue teams''), '''exploration teams''' (Japanese: '''{{tt|探検隊|たんけんたい}}''' ''exploration teams''), and (Japanese: '''{{tt|冒険団|ぼうけんだん}}''' ''adventure squads'') are groups of two to four Pokémon that are mentioned throughout the [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon series]]. Each team has a personal goal they seek to fulfill. They are also found in the ''[[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Ginji's Rescue Team]]'' and ''[[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Blazing Exploration Team]]'' {{pkmn|manga}} and in the {{pkmn|anime}} specials ''[[SS019|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Team Go-Getters out of the Gate!]]'', ''[[SS020|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time & Darkness]]'' and ''[[SS021|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky - Beyond Time & Darkness]]''.

==In the games==
===Rescue teams===
{| align="center"
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{{MD team/3|red|blue|A.C.T.|jap=F.L.B.|rom=F.L.B.|065|Alakazam|006|Charizard|248|Tyranitar|rank=Gold|pps=To come close to Lucario's greatness|link=yes}}
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{{MD team/3|red|blue|Meanies|jap=イジワルズ|rom=Ijiwarus|094|Gengar|023|Ekans|308|Medicham|pps=Wealth and world domination|link=yes}}
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{{MD team/3|red|blue|Shifty|jap=テングス|rom=Tengus|275|Shiftry|274|Nuzleaf|274|Nuzleaf|rank=Normal}}
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{{MD team/3|red|blue|Constrictor|jap=カラミツキ|rom=Karamitsuki|224|Octillery|073|Tentacruel|346|Cradily|rank=Silver}}
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{{MD team/3|red|blue|Hydro|jap=ハイドロズ|rom=Hydros|009|Blastoise|160|Feraligatr|260|Swampert|rank=Bronze}}
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{{MD team/3|red|blue|Rumblerock|jap=ゴロゴロ|rom=Gorogoro|076|Golem|075|Graveler|075|Graveler|rank=Normal}}
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{{MD team/1|red|blue|Fakers|jap=ウソウソズ|rom=Usousozu|185|Sudowoodo}} 
|}
The game also mentions '''Team Koffing''' (Japanese: '''チームドガース''' ''Team {{tt|Dogars|Koffing}}'') and '''Team Sea Dragons''' (Japanese: '''チームシードラズ''' ''Team Seadra'').

===Exploration teams===
{| align="center"
|-
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{{MD team/3|time|darkness|Skull|jap=ドクローズ|rom={{tt|Dokurohs|Skulls}}|435|Skuntank|109|Koffing|041|Zubat|pps=Be worshipped treasure hunters|link=yes|pmd=2}}
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{{MD team/3|time|darkness|Charm|jap=チャームズ|rom=Charms|428|Lopunny|282|Gardevoir|308|Medicham|rank=Master|link=yes|pps=To hunt and collect treasures without fail|pmd=2}}
| valign="top" width="33%" |
{{MD team/3|time|darkness|AWD|link=yes|jap=MAD|rom=MAD|024|Arbok|461|Weavile|452|Drapion|pps=Conquer {{color2|{{MD Darkness color dark}}|Zero Isle|link=yes}}, collect Treasures|pmd=2}}
|-
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{{MD team/3|time|darkness|Raider|jap=レイダーズ|rom=Raiders|475|Gallade|407|Roserade|464|Rhyperior|rank=Master|pmd=2}}
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{{MD team/3|time|darkness|Razor Wind|jap=かまいたち|rom=Kamaitachi|335|Zangoose|123|Scyther|028|Sandslash|pmd=2}}
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{{MD team/3|time|darkness|Glee|jap=ハッピーズ|rom=Happies|175|Togepi|186|Politoed|165|Ledyba|pps=Help others feel happy|pmd=2}}
|-
| valign="top" width="33%" |
{{MD team/2|time|darkness|Seedgey|jap=ポッポボー|rom=Poppoboh|016|Pidgey|273|Seedot|pps=Explore unknown dungeons|pmd=2}}
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{{MD team/2|time|darkness|Tasty|jap=タベラレル|rom={{tt|Taberareru|Edible}}|277|Swellow|265|Wurmple|pmd=2}}
| valign="top" width="33%" |
{{MD team/2|time|darkness|Ebony|jap=マックロー|rom={{tt|Makkuroh|Pitch-black}}|353|Shuppet|198|Murkrow|rank=Silver|pps=Find rare treasures|pmd=2}}
|-
| valign="top" width="33%" |
{{MD team/3|time|darkness|Poochy|jap=ポチエナズ|rom={{tt|Pochienas|Poochyenas}}|261|Poochyena|261|Poochyena|261|Poochyena|pps=Track Rank C criminals|pmd=2}}
| valign="top" width="33%" |
{{MD team/2|time|darkness|Slacker|jap=タルイーズ|rom=Taruīzu|287|Slakoth|079|Slowpoke|pps=To have zero motivation|pmd=2}}
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{{MD team/3|time|darkness|Flame|jap=フレイム|rom=Flame|069|Bellsprout|323|Camerupt|077|Ponyta|pmd=2}}
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{{MD team/3|sky|sky|Frontier|jap=???|rom=???|067|Machoke|286|Breloom|303|Mawile|pps=Help teams climb Sky Peak}}
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{{MD team/3|sky|sky|Rogue|jap=???|rom=???|459|Snover|207|Gligar|371|Bagon|pps=Lure targets, then rob them|pmd=2}}
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|}

==In the {{pkmn|anime}}==
[[File:Team Go-Getters.png|thumb|250px|Team Go-Getters]]
{| align="center"
|-
| valign="top" width="25%" |
{{MD team/3|red|blue|Go-Getters|jap=ガンバルズ|rom=Ganbarus|007|Squirtle|152|Chikorita|004|Charmander|link=yes}}
| valign="top" width="25%" |
{{MD team/2|sky|time|Poképals|jap=ポケダンズ|rom=Pokédans|393|Piplup|390|Chimchar|rank=Gold|link=yes|pmd=2}}
| valign="top" width="25%" |
{{MD team/3|red|blue|A.C.T.|jap=F.L.B.|rom=F.L.B.|065|Alakazam|006|Charizard|248|Tyranitar|rank=Gold|link=yes}}
| valign="top" width="25%" |
{{MD team/3|time|darkness|Razor Wind|jap=かまいたち|rom=Kamaitachi|335|Zangoose|123|Scyther|028|Sandslash|pmd=2}}
|}

==In the {{pkmn|manga}}==
===Ginji's Rescue Team===
{| align="center"
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| valign="top" width="50%" |
{{MD team/2|red|blue|team=Ginji's Rescue Team|jp=ギンジの救助隊|rm=Ginji's Rescue Team|4=255|5=Torchic|name1=Ginji|6=258|7=Mudkip}}
| valign="top" width="50%" |
{{MD team/3|red|blue|A.C.T.|jap=F.L.B.|rom=F.L.B.|065|Alakazam|006|Charizard|248|Tyranitar|rank=Gold|link=yes}}
|}

===Blazing Exploration Team===
{| align="center"
|-
| valign="top" width="50%" |
{{MD team/2|red|blue|team=Team Blaze|jp=???|rm=???|4=390|5=Chimchar|name1=Honō|6=158|7=Totodile}}
|}

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{{Mystery Dungeon teams}} 
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User:Lmoamemesxd

2016-08-10T03:16:39Z

Lmoamemesxd: Created...

http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/duty_calls.png
I created this account solely on the premise of that comic.
{{User Favorite|181Ampharos|Ampharos|Electric}}
{{User Favorite Mega|181|Ampharos|Electric|Dragon}}
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{{User Region|Sevii|Sevii Islands.png}}
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{{User Region|Kalos|Kalos alt.png}}
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Hexagon Brothers

2016-08-10T01:44:23Z

Lmoamemesxd: Returned—"Ciper" -> "Cipher"

{{incomplete|2=Missing Pokémon moves}}
[[File:Hexagon Brothers XD.png|thumb|right|300px|Hexagon Brothers artwork in {{Pokémon XD}}]]
The '''Hexagon Brothers''' (Japanese: '''六つ子ブラザーズ''' ''Sextuplet Brothers'') are a team of six {{tc|Cipher Peon}}s in {{Pokémon XD}}. They are named '''Resix''' (Japanese: '''モノル''' ''Monol''), '''Blusix''' (Japanese: '''ジレル''' ''Direl''), '''Browsix''' (Japanese: '''トリル''' ''Trill''), '''Yellosix''' (Japanese: '''テトル''' ''Tetol''), '''Purpsix''' (Japanese: '''ペタル''' ''Petal''), and '''Greesix''' (Japanese: '''ヘキル''' ''Hekil''). They are dressed in the colors of their names, specialize in a different type of Pokémon, and have a [[Shadow Pokémon]] of the corresponding type. The types are {{t|Fire}}, {{t|Water}}, {{t|Ground}}, {{t|Electric}}, {{t|Poison}}, and {{t|Grass}}, and the Shadow Pokémon are {{p|Houndour}}, {{p|Spheal}}, {{p|Baltoy}}, {{p|Mareep}}, {{p|Gulpin}}, and {{p|Seedot}}, accordingly.

The Hexagon Brothers have their own motto, in which they count off. However, they always mess up their counting (e.g. forgetting to count the first person, or counting an extra time after six). They appear at the [[Cipher Lab]] and at [[Phenac City]] (disguised as the "[[Justy]] Gang"). They can be rebattled at the Cipher Lab at any time.

==Pokémon==
===Cipher Lab (Before Snagging)===
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|prize={{pdollar}}680
|pokemon=2
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|{{Pokémon/3
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|game=XD
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|ndex=218
|level=14
|gender=male
|ability=Magma Armor
|move1=Smog|move1type=Poison
|move2=Ember|move2type=Fire
}}
|{{Pokémon/3/Shadow
|pokemon=Houndour
|game=XD
|type1=Dark|type2=Fire
|ndex=228
|level=17
|ability=Early Bird|ability2=Flash Fire
|move1=Shadow Blitz|move1type=Shadow
|move2=Shadow Mist|move2type=Shadow
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{{Party/Footer}}
 
{{Party/Single
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|bordercolor={{tcg water color dark}}
|headcolor={{shadow color light}}
|class=Cipher Peon
|name=Blusix
|sprite=XD Blusix.png
|size=100px
|game=XD
|location=Cipher Lab
|prize={{pdollar}}680
|pokemon=3
}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|pokemon=Horsea
|game=XD
|type1=Water
|ndex=116
|level=11
|gender=male
|ability=Swift Swim
|move1=Water Gun|move1type=Water
|move2=SmokeScreen|move2type=Normal
}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|pokemon=Goldeen
|game=XD
|type1=Water
|ndex=118
|level=12
|gender=female
|ability=Swift Swim
|move1=Tail Whip|move1type=Normal
|move2=Water Sport|move2type=Water
|move3=Peck|move3type=Flying
}}
|{{Pokémon/3/Shadow
|pokemon=Spheal
|game=XD
|type1=Ice|type2=Water
|ndex=363
|level=17
|ability=Thick Fat
|move1=Shadow Wave|move1type=Shadow
|move2=Shadow Mist|move2type=Shadow
}}
{{Party/Footer}}
 
{{Party/Single
|color={{tcg fighting color}}
|bordercolor={{tcg fighting color dark}}
|headcolor={{shadow color light}}
|class=Cipher Peon
|name=Browsix
|sprite=XD Browsix.png
|size=100px
|game=XD
|location=Cipher Lab
|prize={{pdollar}}680
|pokemon=2
}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|pokemon=Hoothoot
|game=XD
|type1=Normal|type2=Flying
|gender=male
|ndex=163
|level=14
|ability=Insomnia
|move1=Peck|move1type=Flying
|move2=Growl|move2type=Normal
|move3=Tackle|move3type=Normal
}}
|{{Pokémon/3/Shadow
|pokemon=Baltoy
|game=XD
|type1=Ground|type2=Psychic
|ndex=343
|level=17
|ability=Levitate
|move1=Shadow Blitz|move1type=Shadow
|move2=Shadow Mist|move2type=Shadow
}}
{{Party/Footer}}
 

{{Party/Single
|color={{tcg lightning color}}
|bordercolor={{tcg lightning color dark}}
|headcolor={{shadow color light}}
|class=Cipher Peon
|name=Yellosix
|sprite=XD Yellosix.png
|size=100px
|game=XD
|location=Cipher Lab
|prize={{pdollar}}680
|pokemon=3
}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|pokemon=Chinchou
|game=XD
|type1=Water|type2=Electric
|ndex=170
|level=11
|gender=female
|ability=Volt Absorb
|move1=Water Gun|move1type=Water
|move2=Supersonic|move2type=Normal
}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|pokemon=Electrike
|game=XD
|type1=Electric
|ndex=309
|level=12
|gender=male
|ability=Static
|move1=Howl|move1type=Normal
|move2=Leer|move2type=Normal
|move3=Tackle|move3type=Normal
}}
|{{Pokémon/3/Shadow
|pokemon=Mareep
|game=XD
|type1=Electric
|ndex=179
|level=17
|ability=Static
|move1=Shadow Blitz|move1type=Shadow
|move2=Shadow Shed|move2type=Shadow
}}
{{Party/Footer}}
 
{{Party/Single
|color={{tcg psychic color}}
|bordercolor={{tcg psychic color dark}}
|headcolor={{shadow color light}}
|class=Cipher Peon
|name=Purpsix
|sprite=XD Purpsix.png
|size=100px
|game=XD
|location=Cipher Lab
|prize={{pdollar}}440
|pokemon=4
}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|pokemon=Grimer
|game=XD
|type1=Poison
|gender=male
|ndex=088
|level=11
|ability=Sticky Hold
|move1=Poison Gas|move1type=Poison
|move2=Pound|move2type=Normal
}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|pokemon=Koffing
|game=XD
|type1=Poison
|gender=female
|ndex=109
|level=10
|ability=Levitate
|move1=Poison Gas|move1type=Poison
|move2=Smog|move2type=Poison
|move3=Tackle|move3type=Normal
}}
{{Party/Div|color={{tcg psychic color}}}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|pokemon=Tentacool
|game=XD
|type1=Water|type2=Poison
|gender=female
|ndex=072
|level=10
|ability=Liquid Ooze
|move1=Poison Sting|move1type=Poison
|move2=Supersonic|move2type=Normal
|move3=Safeguard|move3type=Normal
}}
|{{Pokémon/3/Shadow
|pokemon=Gulpin
|game=XD
|type1=Poison
|ndex=316
|level=17
|ability=Liquid Ooze|ability2=Sticky Hold
|move1=Shadow Blitz|move1type=Shadow
|move2=Shadow Hold|move2type=Shadow
}}
{{Party/Footer}}
 
{{Party/Single
|color={{tcg grass color}}
|bordercolor={{tcg grass color dark}}
|headcolor={{shadow color light}}
|class=Cipher Peon
|name=Greesix
|sprite=XD Greesix.png
|size=100px
|game=XD
|location=Cipher Lab
|prize={{pdollar}}360
|pokemon=6
}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|pokemon=Lotad
|game=XD
|type1=Water|type2=Grass
|gender=male
|ndex=270
|level=8
|ability=Swift Swim
|move1=Growl|move1type=Normal
|move2=Astonish|move2type=Ghost
}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|pokemon=Oddish
|game=XD
|type1=Grass|type2=Poison
|gender=male
|ndex=043
|level=9
|ability=Chlorophyll
|move1=Acid|move1type=Poison
|move2=Sweet Scent|move2type=Normal
|move3=Absorb|move3type=Grass
}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|pokemon=Cacnea
|game=XD
|type1=Grass
|gender=female
|ndex=331
|level=9
|ability=Sand Veil
|move1=Absorb|move1type=Grass
|move2=Poison Sting|move2type=Poison
}}
{{Party/Div|color={{tcg grass color}}}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|pokemon=Shroomish
|game=XD
|type1=Grass
|gender=female
|ndex=285
|level=9
|ability=Effect Spore
|move1=Absorb|move1type=Grass
|move2=Tackle|move2type=Normal
}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|pokemon=Pineco|game=XD
|type1=Bug
|gender=male
|ndex=204
|level=9
|ability=Sturdy
|move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal
}}
|{{Pokémon/3/Shadow
|pokemon=Seedot
|game=XD
|type1=Grass
|ndex=273
|level=17
|ability=Chlorophyll|ability2=Early Bird
|move1=Shadow Wave|move1type=Shadow
|move2=Shadow Hold|move2type=Shadow
}}
{{Party/Footer}}
 

===Cipher Lab (After Snagging)===
{{Party/Single
|color={{tcg fire color}}
|bordercolor={{tcg fire color dark}}
|headcolor={{shadow color light}}
|class=Cipher Peon
|name=Resix
|sprite=XD Resix.png
|size=100px
|game=XD
|location=Cipher Lab
|prize={{pdollar}}560
|pokemon=2
}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|pokemon=Slugma
|game=XD
|type1=Fire
|ndex=218
|level=14
|gender=male
|ability=Magma Armor
|move1=Smog|move1type=Poison
|move2=Ember|move2type=Fire
}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|pokemon=Numel
|game=XD
|type1=Fire|type2=Ground
|ndex=322
|level=14
|gender=female
|ability=Oblivious
|move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal
|move2=Ember|move2type=Fire
|move3=Growl|move3type=Normal
}}
{{Party/Footer}}
 
{{Party/Single
|color={{tcg water color}}
|bordercolor={{tcg water color dark}}
|headcolor={{shadow color light}}
|class=Cipher Peon
|name=Blusix
|sprite=XD Blusix.png
|size=100px
|game=XD
|location=Cipher Lab
|prize={{pdollar}}480
|pokemon=3
}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|pokemon=Horsea
|game=XD
|type1=Water
|ndex=116
|level=11
|gender=male
|ability=Swift Swim
|move1=Water Gun|move1type=Water
|move2=SmokeScreen|move2type=Normal
}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|pokemon=Goldeen
|game=XD
|type1=Water
|ndex=118
|level=12
|gender=female
|ability=Swift Swim
|move1=Tail Whip|move1type=Normal
|move2=Water Sport|move2type=Water
|move3=Peck|move3type=Flying
}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|pokemon=Beldum
|game=XD
|type1=Steel|type2=Psychic
|ndex=374
|level=11
|ability=Clear Body
|move1=Take Down|move1type=Normal
}}
{{Party/Footer}}
 
{{Party/Single
|color={{tcg fighting color}}
|bordercolor={{tcg fighting color dark}}
|headcolor={{shadow color light}}
|class=Cipher Peon
|name=Browsix
|sprite=XD Browsix.png
|size=100px
|game=XD
|location=Cipher Lab
|prize={{pdollar}}560
|pokemon=2
}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|pokemon=Hoothoot
|game=XD
|type1=Normal|type2=Flying
|gender=male
|ndex=163
|level=14
|ability=Insomnia
|move1=Peck|move1type=Flying
|move2=Growl|move2type=Normal
|move3=Tackle|move3type=Normal
}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|pokemon=Slakoth
|game=XD
|type1=Normal
|gender=Male
|ndex=287
|level=14
|ability=Truant
|move1=Scratch|move1type=Normal
|move2=Yawn|move2type=Normal
}}
{{Party/Footer}}
 
{{Party/Single
|color={{tcg lightning color}}
|bordercolor={{tcg lightning color dark}}
|headcolor={{shadow color light}}
|class=Cipher Peon
|name=Yellosix
|sprite=XD Yellosix.png
|size=100px
|game=XD
|location=Cipher Lab
|prize={{pdollar}}480
|pokemon=3
}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|pokemon=Chinchou
|game=XD
|type1=Water|type2=Electric
|ndex=170
|level=11
|gender=female
|ability=Volt Absorb
|move1=Water Gun|move1type=Water
|move2=Supersonic|move2type=Normal
}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|pokemon=Electrike
|game=XD
|type1=Electric
|ndex=309
|level=12
|gender=male
|ability=Static
|move1=Howl|move1type=Normal
|move2=Leer|move2type=Normal
|move3=Tackle|move3type=Normal
}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|pokemon=Magnemite
|game=XD
|type1=Electric|type2=Steel
|ndex=081
|level=12
|ability=Sturdy
|move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal
|move2=ThunderShock|move2type=Electric
}}
{{Party/Footer}}
 
{{Party/Single
|color={{tcg psychic color}}
|bordercolor={{tcg psychic color dark}}
|headcolor={{shadow color light}}
|class=Cipher Peon
|name=Purpsix
|sprite=XD Purpsix.png
|size=100px
|game=XD
|location=Cipher Lab
|prize={{pdollar}}440
|pokemon=4
}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|pokemon=Koffing
|game=XD
|type1=Poison
|gender=female
|ndex=109
|level=10
|ability=Levitate
|move1=Poison Gas|move1type=Poison
|move2=Smog|move2type=Poison
|move3=Tackle|move3type=Normal
}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|pokemon=Grimer
|game=XD
|type1=Poison
|gender=male
|ndex=088
|level=11
|ability=Sticky Hold
|move1=Poison Gas|move1type=Poison
|move2=Pound|move2type=Normal
}}
{{Party/Div|color={{tcg psychic color}}}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|pokemon=Tentacool
|game=XD
|type1=Water|type2=Poison
|gender=female
|ndex=072
|level=10
|ability=Liquid Ooze
|move1=Poison Sting|move1type=Poison
|move2=Supersonic|move2type=Normal
|move3=Safeguard|move3type=Normal
}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|pokemon=Zubat
|game=XD
|type1=Poison|type2=Flying
|ndex=041
|level=10
|gender=Female
|ability=Inner Focus
|move1=Leech Life|move1type=Bug
|move2=Supersonic|move2type=Normal
}}
{{Party/Footer}}
 
{{Party/Single
|color={{tcg grass color}}
|bordercolor={{tcg grass color dark}}
|headcolor={{shadow color light}}
|class=Cipher Peon
|name=Greesix
|sprite=XD Greesix.png
|size=100px
|game=XD
|location=Cipher Lab
|prize={{pdollar}}360
|pokemon=5
}}
{{Party/Div|color={{tcg grass color}}}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|pokemon=Oddish
|game=XD
|type1=Grass|type2=Poison
|gender=male
|ndex=043
|level=9
|ability=Chlorophyll
|move1=Acid|move1type=Poison
|move2=Sweet Scent|move2type=Normal
|move3=Absorb|move3type=Grass
}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|pokemon=Cacnea
|game=XD
|type1=Grass
|gender=female
|ndex=331
|level=9
|ability=Sand Veil
|move1=Absorb|move1type=Grass
|move2=Poison Sting|move2type=Poison
}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|pokemon=Shroomish
|game=XD
|type1=Grass
|gender=female
|ndex=285
|level=9
|ability=Effect Spore
|move1=Absorb|move1type=Grass
|move2=Tackle|move2type=Normal
}}
{{Party/Div|color={{tcg grass color}}}}
| style="margin:auto" |{{Pokémon/3
|pokemon=Lotad
|game=XD
|type1=Water|type2=Grass
|gender=male
|ndex=270
|level=8
|ability=Swift Swim
|move1=Growl|move1type=Normal
|move2=Astonish|move2type=Ghost
}}
| style="margin:auto" |{{Pokémon/3
|pokemon=Pineco|game=XD
|type1=Bug
|gender=male
|ndex=204
|level=9
|ability=Sturdy
|move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal
}}
{{Party/Footer}}
 

===Phenac City===
{{Party/Single
|color={{tcg fire color}}
|bordercolor={{tcg fire color dark}}
|headcolor={{shadow color light}}
|class=Cipher Peon
|name=Resix
|sprite=XD Resix.png
|size=100px
|game=XD
|location=Phenac City
|prize={{pdollar}}800
|pokemon=2
}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|pokemon=Slugma
|game=XD
|gender=male
|type1=Fire
|ndex=218
|level=20
|ability=Magma Armor
|move1=Smog|move1type=Poison
|move2=Light Screen|move2type=Psychic
|move3=Ember|move3type=Fire
|move4=Rock Throw|move4type=Rock
}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|pokemon=Numel
|game=XD
|gender=female
|type1=Fire|type2=Ground
|ndex=322
|level=20
|ability=Oblivious
|move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal
|move2=Ember|move2type=Fire
|move3=Growl|move3type=Normal
}}
{{Party/Footer}}
 

{{Party/Single
|color={{tcg water color}}
|bordercolor={{tcg water color dark}}
|headcolor={{shadow color light}}
|class=Cipher Peon
|name=Blusix
|sprite=XD Blusix.png
|size=100px
|game=XD
|location=Phenac City
|prize={{pdollar}}800
|pokemon=3
}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|pokemon=Horsea
|game=XD
|gender=female
|type1=Water
|ndex=116
|level=21
|ability=Swift Swim
|move1=Water Gun|move1type=Water
|move2=SmokeScreen|move2type=Normal
|move3=Leer|move3type=Normal
}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|pokemon=Goldeen
|game=XD
|gender=female
|type1=Water
|ndex=118
|level=20
|ability=Swift Swim
|move1=Tail Whip|move1type=Normal
|move2=Water Sport|move2type=Water
|move3=Peck|move3type=Flying
}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|pokemon=Beldum
|game=XD
|type1=Steel|type2=Psychic
|ndex=374
|level=19
|ability=Clear Body
|move1=Take Down|move1type=Normal
}}
{{Party/Footer}}
 
{{Party/Single
|color={{tcg fighting color}}
|bordercolor={{tcg fighting color dark}}
|headcolor={{shadow color light}}
|class=Cipher Peon
|name=Browsix
|sprite=XD Browsix.png
|size=100px
|game=XD
|location=Phenac City
|prize={{pdollar}}800
|pokemon=2
}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|pokemon=Noctowl
|game=XD
|type1=Normal|type2=Flying
|gender=male
|ndex=164
|level=20
|ability=Insomnia
|move1=Peck|move1type=Flying
|move2=Growl|move2type=Normal
|move3=Tackle|move3type=Normal
}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|pokemon=Vigoroth
|gender=male
|game=XD
|type1=Normal
|ndex=288
|level=20
|ability=Vital Spirit
|move1=Scratch|move1type=Normal
|move2=Fury Swipes|move2type=Normal
|move3=Yawn|move3type=Normal
}}
{{Party/Footer}}
 

{{Party/Single
|color={{tcg lightning color}}
|bordercolor={{tcg lightning color dark}}
|headcolor={{shadow color light}}
|class=Cipher Peon
|name=Yellosix
|sprite=XD Yellosix.png
|size=100px
|game=XD
|location=Phenac City
|prize={{pdollar}}800
|pokemon=3
}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|pokemon=Chinchou
|game=XD
|gender=female
|type1=Water|type2=Electric
|ndex=170
|level=20
|ability=Volt Absorb
|move1=Water Gun|move1type=Water
|move2=Supersonic|move2type=Normal
|move3=Thunder Wave|move3type=Electric
|move4=Flail|move4type=Normal
}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|pokemon=Electrike
|game=XD
|gender=male
|type1=Electric
|ndex=309
|level=20
|ability=Static
|move1=Howl|move1type=Normal
|move2=Spark|move2type=Electric
|move3=Quick Attack|move3type=Normal
|move4=Leer|move4type=Normal
}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|pokemon=Magnemite
|game=XD
|type1=Electric|type2=Steel
|ndex=081
|level=20
|ability=Sturdy
|move1=SonicBoom|move1type=Normal
|move2=Tackle|move2type=Normal
|move3=ThunderShock|move3type=Electric
}}
{{Party/Footer}}
 
{{Party/Single
|color={{tcg psychic color}}
|bordercolor={{tcg psychic color dark}}
|headcolor={{shadow color light}}
|class=Cipher Peon
|name=Purpsix
|sprite=XD Purpsix.png
|size=100px
|game=XD
|location=Phenac City
|prize={{pdollar}}800
|pokemon=4
}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|pokemon=Grimer
|game=XD
|type1=Poison
|gender=male
|ndex=088
|level=20
|ability=Sticky Hold
|move1=Minimize|move1type=Normal
|move2=Pound|move2type=Normal
|move3=Sludge|move3type=Poison
|move4=Harden|move4type=Normal
}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|pokemon=Koffing
|game=XD
|type1=Poison
|gender=female
|ndex=109
|level=20
|ability=Levitate
|move1=Poison Gas|move1type=Poison
|move2=Smog|move2type=Poison
|move3=Tackle|move3type=Normal
}}
{{Party/Div|color={{tcg psychic color}}}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|pokemon=Tentacool
|game=XD
|type1=Water|type2=Poison
|gender=female
|ndex=072
|level=20
|ability=Liquid Ooze
|move1=Poison Sting|move1type=Poison
|move2=Supersonic|move2type=Normal
|move3=Safeguard|move3type=Normal
|move4=Acid|move4type=Poison
}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|pokemon=Zubat
|game=XD
|gender=female
|type1=Poison|type2=Flying
|ndex=041
|level=20
|ability=Inner Focus
|move1=Leech Life|move1type=Bug
|move2=Bite|move2type=Dark
|move3=Supersonic|move3type=Normal
|move4=Astonish|move4type=Ghost
}}
{{Party/Footer}}
 
{{Party/Single
|color={{tcg grass color}}
|bordercolor={{tcg grass color dark}}
|headcolor={{shadow color light}}
|class=Cipher Peon
|name=Greesix
|sprite=XD Greesix.png
|size=100px
|game=XD
|location=Phenac City
|prize={{pdollar}}800
|pokemon=5
}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|pokemon=Lotad
|game=XD
|gender=male
|type1=Water|type2=Grass
|ndex=270
|level=19
|ability=Swift Swim
|move1=Growl|move1type=Normal
|move2=Astonish|move2type=Ghost
}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|pokemon=Oddish
|game=XD
|type1=Grass|type2=Poison
|gender=male
|ndex=043
|level=18
|ability=Chlorophyll
|move1=Acid|move1type=Poison
|move2=Sweet Scent|move2type=Normal
|move3=Absorb|move3type=Grass
}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|pokemon=Cacnea
|game=XD
|type1=Grass
|gender=female
|ndex=331
|level=18
|ability=Sand Veil
|move1=Absorb|move1type=Grass
|move2=Poison Sting|move2type=Poison
|move3=Sand-Attack|move3type=Ground
|move4=Leech Seed|move4type=Grass
}}
{{Party/Div|color={{tcg grass color}}}}
| style="margin:auto" |{{Pokémon/3
|pokemon=Shroomish
|game=XD
|type1=Grass
|gender=female
|ndex=285
|level=19
|ability=Effect Spore
|move1=Mega Drain|move1type=Grass
|move2=Tackle|move2type=Normal
|move3=Leech Seed|move3type=Grass
}}
| style="margin:auto" |{{Pokémon/3
|pokemon=Pineco
|game=XD
|type1=Bug
|gender=male
|ndex=204
|level=20
|ability=Sturdy
|move1=Tackle|move1type=Normal
|move2=Take Down|move2type=Normal
}}
{{Party/Footer}}
 

===Cipher Lab (after visiting Citadark Isle)===
{{Party/Single
|color={{tcg fire color}}
|bordercolor={{tcg fire color dark}}
|headcolor={{shadow color light}}
|class=Cipher Peon
|name=Resix
|sprite=XD Resix.png
|size=100px
|game=XD
|location=Cipher Lab
|prize={{pdollar}}2,000
|pokemon=2
}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|pokemon=Magcargo
|game=XD
|type1=Fire|type2=Rock
|gender=male
|ndex=219
|level=50
|ability=Magma Armor
|move1=Overheat|move1type=Fire
|move2=Light Screen|move2type=Psychic
|move3=Body Slam|move3type=Normal
|move4=Rock Slide|move4type=Rock
}}

|{{Pokémon/3
|pokemon=Camerupt
|game=XD
|type1=Fire|type2=Ground
|gender=female
|ndex=323
|level=50
|ability=Magma Armor
|move1=Eruption|move1type=Fire
|move2=Dig|move2type=Ground
|move3=Rest|move3type=Psychic
|move4=Sleep Talk|move4type=Normal}}
{{Party/Footer}}
 
{{Party/Single
|color={{tcg water color}}
|bordercolor={{tcg water color dark}}
|headcolor={{shadow color light}}
|class=Cipher Peon
|name=Blusix
|sprite=XD Blusix.png
|size=100px
|game=XD
|location=Cipher Lab
|prize={{pdollar}}2,000
|pokemon=3
}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|pokemon=Kingdra
|game=XD
|type1=Water|type2=Dragon
|gender=male
|ndex=230
|level=50
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|move2=Hyper Beam|move2type=Normal
|move3=Waterfall|move3type=Water
|move4=Ice Beam|move4type=Ice
}}
|{{Pokémon/3
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|type1=Water
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|level=50
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|move1=Rain Dance|move1type=Water
|move2=Waterfall|move2type=Water
|move3=Ice Beam|move3type=Ice
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|level=50
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|move2=Psychic|move2type=Psychic
|move3=Meteor Mash|move3type=Steel
|move4=Shadow Ball|move4type=Ghost
}}
{{Party/Footer}}
 
{{Party/Single
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|{{Pokémon/3
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|level=50
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}}
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|move2=Earthquake|move2type=Ground
|move3=Shadow Ball|move3type=Ghost
|move4=Aerial Ace|move4type=Flying
}}
{{Party/Footer}}
 
{{Party/Single
|color={{tcg lightning color}}
|bordercolor={{tcg lightning color dark}}
|headcolor={{shadow color light}}
|class=Cipher Peon
|name=Yellosix
|sprite=XD Yellosix.png
|size=100px
|game=XD
|location=Cipher Lab
|prize={{pdollar}}2,000
|pokemon=3
}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|pokemon=Lanturn
|game=XD
|type1=Water|type2=Electric
|gender=female
|ndex=171
|level=50
|ability=Volt Absorb
|move1=Thunder|move1type=Electric
|move2=Hydro Pump|move2type=Water
|move3=Confuse Ray|move3type=Ghost
|move4=Thunder Wave|move4type=Electric}}

|{{Pokémon/3
|pokemon=Manectric
|game=XD
|type1=Electric
|gender=male
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|level=50
|ability=Static
|move1=Rain Dance|move1type=Water
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|move3=Thunder Wave|move3type=Electric
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|{{Pokémon/3
|pokemon=Magneton
|game=XD
|type1=Electric|type2=Steel
|ndex=082
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|move3=Metal Sound|move3type=Steel
|move4=Thunder Wave|move4type=Electric
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{{Party/Footer}}
 
{{Party/Single
|color={{tcg psychic color}}
|bordercolor={{tcg psychic color dark}}
|headcolor={{shadow color light}}
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|name=Purpsix
|sprite=XD Purpsix.png
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|game=XD
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|prize={{pdollar}}2,000
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}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|pokemon=Muk
|game=XD
|type1=Poison
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|level=50
|ability=Sticky Hold
|move1=Sludge Bomb|move1type=Poison
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|move3=Minimize|move3type=Normal
|move4=Toxic|move4type=Poison
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|{{Pokémon/3
|pokemon=Tentacruel
|game=XD
|type1=Water|type2=Poison
|gender=female
|ndex=073
|level=50
|ability=Liquid Ooze
|move1=Hydro Pump|move1type=Water
|move2=Sludge Bomb|move2type=Poison
|move3=Giga Drain|move3type=Grass
|move4=Barrier|move4type=Psychic
}}
{{Party/Div|color={{tcg psychic color}}}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|pokemon=Weezing
|game=XD
|type1=Poison
|gender=female
|ndex=110
|level=50
|ability=Levitate
|move1=Sludge Bomb|move1type=Poison
|move2=Shadow Ball|move2type=Ghost
|move3=Swagger|move3type=Normal
|move4=Toxic|move4type=Poison
}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|pokemon=Golbat
|game=XD
|type1=Poison|type2=Flying
|gender=female
|ndex=042
|level=50
|ability=Inner Focus
|move1=Sludge Bomb|move1type=Poison
|move2=Shadow Ball|move2type=Ghost
|move3=Bite|move3type=Dark
|move4=Swagger|move4type=Normal
}}
{{Party/Footer}}
 
{{Party/Single
|color={{tcg grass color}}
|bordercolor={{tcg grass color dark}}
|headcolor={{shadow color light}}
|class=Cipher Peon
|name=Greesix
|sprite=XD Greesix.png
|size=100px
|game=XD
|location=Cipher Lab
|prize={{pdollar}}2,000
|pokemon=5
}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|pokemon=Lombre
|game=XD
|type1=Water|type2=Grass
|gender=male
|ndex=271
|level=50
|ability=Swift Swim
|move1=Water Sport|move1type=Water
|move2=Thief|move2type=Dark
|move3=Hydro Pump|move3type=Water
|move4=Uproar|move4type=Normal
}}
|{{Pokémon/3
|pokemon=Vileplume
|game=XD
|type1=Grass|type2=Poison
|gender=male
|ndex=045
|level=50
|ability=Chlorophyll
|move1=Sunny Day|move1type=Fire
|move2=SolarBeam|move2type=Grass
|move3=Sludge Bomb|move3type=Poison
|move4=Stun Spore|move4type=Grass
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|{{Pokémon/3
|pokemon=Cacturne
|game=XD
|type1=Grass|type2=Dark
|gender=female
|ndex=332
|level=50
|ability=Sand Veil
|move1=Sunny Day|move1type=Fire
|move2=SolarBeam|move2type=Grass
|move3=Needle Arm|move3type=Grass
|move4=Faint Attack|move4type=Dark
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{{Party/Div|color={{tcg grass color}}}}
| style="margin:auto" |{{Pokémon/3
|pokemon=Breloom
|game=XD
|type1=Grass|type2=Fighting
|gender=female
|ndex=286
|level=50
|ability=Effect Spore
|move1=Leech Seed|move1type=Grass
|move2=Brick Break|move2type=Fighting
|move3=SolarBeam|move3type=Grass
|move4=Iron Tail|move4type=Steel
}}

| style="margin:auto" |{{Pokémon/3
|pokemon=Forretress
|game=XD
|type1=Bug|type2=Steel
|gender=male
|ndex=205
|level=50
|ability=Sturdy
|move1=Spikes|move1type=Ground
|move2=Explosion|move2type=Normal
|move3=Bide|move3type=Normal
|move4=Rapid Spin|move4type=Normal
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{{Party/Footer}}

==Quotes==
{{incomplete|section}}

==Trivia==
*Interestingly, their colors are the same as the colors of the TCG's original six {{TCG|Basic Energy card}}s, and each of their Pokémon falls into a TCG type represented by one of these types ({{TCG|Gulpin}}, however, being a {{type|Poison}}, was a {{ct|Grass}} in the TCG before {{TCG|Diamond & Pearl}}).
* Resix's team after snagging and before beating the game gives only Special Attack [[effort values|EVs]]. Under the same conditions, Browsix's only provides HP EVs. This makes them among the few places to EV train in XD.
*Unlike the rest of the Hexagon Brothers, Greesix does not replace his Shadow Pokémon after it is snagged.
*During Cipher's invasion of Phenac City, Greesix, Blusix, and Resix stand in the same areas that Verde, Bluno, and Rosso stood in in Colosseum.
*Resix, Browsix, and Purpsix have a different defeated animation unlike other Cipher Peons in the game.

==In other languages==
{{langtable
|color={{XD color}}|bordercolor={{XD color light}}
|ja=六つ子ブラザーズ ''Sextuplet Brothers''
|fr=Frères Hexagone
|de=Hexagon-Brüder
|it=Sestetto Iride
|es=Hermanos del Hexágono
}}

{|
|- style="vertical-align:top"
|
''Resix''
{{langtable
|color={{tcg fire color}}|bordercolor={{tcg fire color dark}}
|ja=モノル ''Monol''
|fr=Sirouj
|de=Rubex
|it=Carmine
|es=Rosexto
}}
||
''Blusix''
{{langtable
|color={{tcg water color}}|bordercolor={{tcg water color dark}}
|ja=ジレル ''Direl''
|fr=Sibleux
|de=Azurex
|it=Celestino
|es=Azusexto
}}
|
''Browsix''
{{langtable
|color={{tcg fighting color}}|bordercolor={{tcg fighting color dark}}
|ja=トリル ''Trill''
|fr=Sibrin
|de=Kastanex
|it=Bruno
|es=Narasexto
}}
|- style="vertical-align:top"
|
''Yellosix''
{{langtable
|color={{tcg lightning color}}|bordercolor={{tcg lightning color dark}}
|ja=テトル ''Tetol''
|fr=Sijone
|de=Flavex
|it=Dorino
|es=Amasexto
}}
|
''Purpsix''
{{langtable
|color={{tcg psychic color}}|bordercolor={{tcg psychic color dark}}
|ja=ペタル ''Petal''
|fr=Siviolé
|de=Purpex
|it=Violantino
|es=Morasexto
}}
|
''Greesix''
{{langtable
|color={{tcg grass color}}|bordercolor={{tcg grass color dark}}
|ja=ヘキル ''Hekil''
|fr=Sivère
|de=Verdex
|it=Verdiano
|es=Versexto
}}
|}

{{-}}
{{Cipher}}
{{-}}
{{Project CharacterDex notice}}
[[Category:Game characters]]
[[Category:XD characters]]
[[Category:Male characters]]

[[de:Hexagon-Brüder]]
[[fr:Frères Hexagone]]
[[it:Sestetto Iride]]

Talk:Blue (Origins)

2016-07-22T12:56:07Z

Lmoamemesxd:

==Its not Blue==
This guy is not Blue. The subs clearly state multiple times that he is Green.--[[User:Stevemagegod|Stevemagegod]] ([[User talk:Stevemagegod|talk]]) 22:32, 29 October 2013 (UTC)Stevemagegod
:None of the subs are official. Also, the subs are for the Japanese version, where he is named Green. His official English name is Blue. --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 22:34, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

== Blue may have caught 149 pokemon ==

He might have caught Trio legendary birds Pokemon as shows in the tv anime their more than one super rare pokemon as proven many times in tv anime
Ash met Lugia in the movie and another one in the Johto season as mother to the infant. --[[User:SilverioFlame|SilverioBOMB ]] ([[User talk:SilverioFlame|talk]]) 04:56, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
:The Origins was based off the games, so it follows the game's logic not the anime's.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:58, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
oh but on the File 4: Charizard trivia saids Blue caught 149 pokemon so it must be wrong--[[User:SilverioFlame|SilverioBOMB ]] ([[User talk:SilverioFlame|talk]]) 05:04, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
:Blue said in the show that he had caught 149 Pokémon, so that's not incorrect.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:17, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
Oh i see what i type mistake
onBlue page saids 148 pokemon not 149 sorry that u misunderstood me
my bad --[[User:SilverioFlame|SilverioBOMB ]] ([[User talk:SilverioFlame|talk]]) 05:19, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

== Trivia undone ==
I am not referring to the anime—in the games and presumably Origins, the "multiple" constant remains. For example, Trevor in X and Y likely owns a Mewtwo (show him a Pokémon that can Mega Evolve, he will comment on how he also owns one) and Latias' Emerald description states that 'they make a small herd'. If you absolutely ''must'' keep the trivia point, modify "as there '''are''' only one of each of the Legendary birds" to "as there '''may be''' only one of each of the Legendary birds"—it is highly probable that the birds are not unique. --[[User:Lmoamemesxd|Lmoamemesxd]] ([[User talk:Lmoamemesxd|talk]]) 02:24, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
:I mean, at the very least, the last part of the trivia should be removed since it's speculation. Bulbapedia tries to pride itself on not allowing speculation, and this trivia point goes against that policy. '''[[User:Slimey01|slimey]][[User talk:Slimey01|01]]''' 03:01, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
::Dex entries tend to spout BS. And other trainers owning Legendaries doesn't mean anything. If you can only catch one in the wild, then that means there's only one. Why other trainers have legendaries is just the case of it just being what it is.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:09, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
Just because dex entries tend to spout BS doesn't mean you can conveniently assume that they all do - so-called "BS" dex entries make outlandish claims, like Combusken and its ten kicks per second... Latias travelling in herds is perfectly feasible and not an example of this "BS". Anyway, your point that because there's only one obtainable in the wild to a player there must only be one in existence is undermined by several in-game instances - by your logic, there were only two Snorlax to exist in Generation I. Moreover, stating that trainers having legendary Pokémon is "just a case of being what it is" is vague and doesn't hold much weight. Yes, trainers with these Pokémon are typically within battle facilities and appear randomly in the case of trainers who aren't Frontier Brains... but what about Benga in BW2? Your battle with him, in which he uses a Legendary Pokémon, is acknowledged outside the facility in which it takes place. Therefore the battle happened and his Pokémon team wasn't just "what it was" (i.e. for the purpose of providing the player with the challenge). But the bottom line is that the way the trivia is written suggests that the speculation on the author's part is fact, when there is insufficient evidence and no confirmation for this being the case. Like Slimey01 said, Bulbapedia's policy is to be based on information that has been confirmed. Anyway, have a nice day. --[[User:Da real dat boi|Da real dat boi]] ([[User talk:Da real dat boi|talk]]) 18:19, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

I agree that we should remove the trivia for whatever my opinion's worth (which doesn't seem to be much). [[User:Nutter Butter|Nutter Butter]] ([[User talk:Nutter Butter|talk]]) 18:45, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
:First of all, you don't create a second account just to get your way, that's not how arguments work.
:Secondly, that's why I said "if you can '''only''' catch '''one'''". If there are two Snorlax, clearly there are more than one Snorlax. Benga is post game and is "for the purpose of providing the player with the challenge". It's not even a Gen V Legendary, so it's clearly just the way it is.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 03:31, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
Someone is wrong on the internet.
First, not actually an alternate account, but this point is essentially rendered moot until I upload a photo, as a result of people's general cynicism. That aside, why would using multiple accounts affect the argument? Even if it was the alternate account it is assumed to be, how would that be any different to providing the argument on this account? Everyone on this thread (other than you) agrees with me.
'''Update''': Photo uploaded of me and my brother at http://imgur.com/O7lH8pQ. Pix. Really happened.
Second, Benga being post game does not render him non-canon, and how is Latios/Latias not being Gen V relevant? It still proves a point. --[[User:Lmoamemesxd|Lmoamemesxd]] ([[User talk:Lmoamemesxd|talk]]) 11:10, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
:I didn't say he was non-canon, I said his purpose was just to add an extra challenge. Because if it were a Gen V Pokemon, or any of the other legendaries that appear in B2W2, then it'd hold water. You can't catch Lati@s in B2W2, so Benga could have the only Lati@s in the game.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 12:19, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
While I commend you for altering the trivia wording, "You can't catch Lati@s in B2W2" is factually incorrect. You can, they are in the [[Dreamyard]], and Benga uses the same one as you, hence there are at least two in B2W2. --[[User:Lmoamemesxd|Lmoamemesxd]] ([[User talk:Lmoamemesxd|talk]]) 12:55, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

Talk:Blue (Origins)

2016-07-22T12:54:13Z

Lmoamemesxd: /* Trivia undone */ Facts

Talk:Blue (Origins)

2016-07-22T12:18:24Z

Lmoamemesxd: Update

User talk:Lmoamemesxd

2016-07-22T12:12:39Z

Lmoamemesxd: Apologies

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==Multiple Accounts==
Hey there, recently I've noticed that you created a second account under the name of {{u|Da real dat boi}}. Please be aware that you are only allowed to have one account on Bulbapedia. Please indicate which account you would like to keep and edit from, the other will be deleted. If you have any questions, let me know. Thank you. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 23:20, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
:"Da real dat boi" is my brother, however, you may disregard his existence as a non-alt, as, per internet conceptions, same IP = same person. There is no real difference between me using the same account or a different one, but, whatever, delete "Da real dat boi". I do not care. I guess this is the internet, r/nothingeverhappens is the standard. Yeah. Delete that account if you want. --[[User:Lmoamemesxd|Lmoamemesxd]] ([[User talk:Lmoamemesxd|talk]]) 23:30, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
::While it's not an issue for siblings to have accounts on Bulbapedia, it was rather clear in this situation that that was likely not the case considering the first edit on the other account was continuing an discussion you started from this one. Anyhow, the other account has been blocked per your request. '''''[[User:Pokemaster97|--Pokemaster]][[User talk:Pokemaster97|97]]''''' 23:42, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
He joined simply to argue Force Fire's point, after I alerted him (See https://xkcd.com/386/). But, as I said, nothing ever happens. Yeah, there are no girls on the internet. Whatever, back to editing. --[[User:Lmoamemesxd|Lmoamemesxd]] ([[User talk:Lmoamemesxd|talk]]) 23:52, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
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http://imgur.com/O7lH8pQ Me and my actual brother. Pics. It happened. --[[User:Lmoamemesxd|Lmoamemesxd]] ([[User talk:Lmoamemesxd|talk]]) 11:36, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

== Talk page comments ==

Per {{bp|talk page policy}}, please never edit another person's comment for any reason. Pretty much the only exception is to remove an unwanted redlink. However, it is ''not'' your duty to fix anyone else's grammar or spelling or anything else. I hope you can understand. Thanks. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 12:06, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
Sorry. I will cease pedanticising pre-written comments. --[[User:Lmoamemesxd|Lmoamemesxd]] ([[User talk:Lmoamemesxd|talk]]) 12:12, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

User talk:Lmoamemesxd

2016-07-22T12:12:31Z

Lmoamemesxd: Apologies

User talk:Lmoamemesxd

2016-07-22T11:36:19Z

Lmoamemesxd: Da real dat boi is not an alt

Talk:Blue (Origins)

2016-07-22T11:10:37Z

Lmoamemesxd:

==Its not Blue==
This guy is not Blue. The subs clearly state multiple times that he is Green.--[[User:Stevemagegod|Stevemagegod]] ([[User talk:Stevemagegod|talk]]) 22:32, 29 October 2013 (UTC)Stevemagegod
:None of the subs are official. Also, the subs are for the Japanese version, where he is named Green. His official English name is Blue. --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 22:34, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

== Blue may have caught 149 pokemon ==

He might have caught Trio legendary birds Pokemon as shows in the tv anime their more than one super rare pokemon as proven many times in tv anime
Ash met Lugia in the movie and another one in the Johto season as mother to the infant. --[[User:SilverioFlame|SilverioBOMB ]] ([[User talk:SilverioFlame|talk]]) 04:56, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
:The Origins was based off the games, so it follows the game's logic not the anime's.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:58, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
oh but on the File 4: Charizard trivia saids Blue caught 149 pokemon so it must be wrong--[[User:SilverioFlame|SilverioBOMB ]] ([[User talk:SilverioFlame|talk]]) 05:04, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
:Blue said in the show that he had caught 149 Pokémon, so that's not incorrect.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:17, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
Oh i see what i type mistake
onBlue page saids 148 pokemon not 149 sorry that u misunderstood me
my bad --[[User:SilverioFlame|SilverioBOMB ]] ([[User talk:SilverioFlame|talk]]) 05:19, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

== Trivia undone ==
I am not referring to the anime—in the games and presumably Origins, the "multiple" constant remains. For example, Trevor in X and Y likely owns a Mewtwo (show him a Pokémon that can Mega Evolve, he will comment on how he also owns one) and Latias' Emerald description states that 'they make a small herd'. If you absolutely ''must'' keep the trivia point, modify "as there '''are''' only one of each of the Legendary birds" to "as there '''may be''' only one of each of the Legendary birds"—it is highly probable that the birds are not unique. --[[User:Lmoamemesxd|Lmoamemesxd]] ([[User talk:Lmoamemesxd|talk]]) 02:24, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
:I mean, at the very least, the last part of the trivia should be removed since it's speculation. Bulbapedia tries to pride itself on not allowing speculation, and this trivia point goes against that policy. '''[[User:Slimey01|slimey]][[User talk:Slimey01|01]]''' 03:01, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
::Dex entries tend to spout BS. And other trainers owning Legendaries doesn't mean anything. If you can only catch one in the wild, then that means there's only one. Why other trainers have legendaries is just the case of it just being what it is.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:09, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
Just because dex entries tend to spout BS doesn't mean you can conveniently assume that they all do - so-called "BS" dex entries make outlandish claims, like Combusken and its ten kicks per second... Latias travelling in herds is perfectly feasible and not an example of this "BS". Anyway, your point that because there's only one obtainable in the wild to a player there must only be one in existence is undermined by several in-game instances - by your logic, there were only two Snorlax to exist in Generation I. Moreover, stating that trainers having legendary Pokémon is "just a case of being what it is" is vague and doesn't hold much weight. Yes, trainers with these Pokémon are typically within battle facilities and appear randomly in the case of trainers who aren't Frontier Brains... but what about Benga in BW2? Your battle with him, in which he uses a Legendary Pokémon, is acknowledged outside the facility in which it takes place. Therefore the battle happened and his Pokémon team wasn't just "what it was" (i.e. for the purpose of providing the player with the challenge). But the bottom line is that the way the trivia is written suggests that the speculation on the author's part is fact, when there is insufficient evidence and no confirmation for this being the case. Like Slimey01 said, Bulbapedia's policy is to be based on information that has been confirmed. Anyway, have a nice day. --[[User:Da real dat boi|Da real dat boi]] ([[User talk:Da real dat boi|talk]]) 18:19, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

I agree that we should remove the trivia for whatever my opinion's worth (which doesn't seem to be much). [[User:Nutter Butter|Nutter Butter]] ([[User talk:Nutter Butter|talk]]) 18:45, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
:First of all, you don't create a second account just to get your way, that's not how arguments work.
:Secondly, that's why I said "if you can '''only''' catch '''one'''". If there are two Snorlax, clearly there are more than one Snorlax. Benga is post game and is "for the purpose of providing the player with the challenge". It's not even a Gen V Legendary, so it's clearly just the way it is.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 03:31, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
Someone is wrong on the internet.
First, not actually an alternate account, but this point is essentially rendered moot until I upload a photo, as a result of people general cynicism. That aside, why would using multiple accounts affect the argument? Even if it was the alternate account it is assumed to be, how would that be any different to providing the argument on this account? Everyone on this thread (other than you) agrees with me.
Second, Benga being post game does not render him non-canon, and how is Latios/Latias not being Gen V relevant? It still proves a point. --[[User:Lmoamemesxd|Lmoamemesxd]] ([[User talk:Lmoamemesxd|talk]]) 11:10, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

Talk:Blue (Origins)

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Lmoamemesxd: Objection!

==Its not Blue==
This guy is not Blue. The subs clearly state multiple times that he is Green.--[[User:Stevemagegod|Stevemagegod]] ([[User talk:Stevemagegod|talk]]) 22:32, 29 October 2013 (UTC)Stevemagegod
:None of the subs are official. Also, the subs are for the Japanese version, where he is named Green. His official English name is Blue. --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 22:34, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

== Blue may have caught 149 pokemon ==

He might have caught Trio legendary birds Pokemon as shows in the tv anime their more than one super rare pokemon as proven many times in tv anime
Ash met Lugia in the movie and another one in the Johto season as mother to the infant. --[[User:SilverioFlame|SilverioBOMB ]] ([[User talk:SilverioFlame|talk]]) 04:56, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
:The Origins was based off the games, so it follows the game's logic not the anime's.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:58, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
oh but on the File 4: Charizard trivia saids Blue caught 149 pokemon so it must be wrong--[[User:SilverioFlame|SilverioBOMB ]] ([[User talk:SilverioFlame|talk]]) 05:04, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
:Blue said in the show that he had caught 149 Pokémon, so that's not incorrect.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:17, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
Oh i see what i type mistake
onBlue page saids 148 pokemon not 149 sorry that u misunderstood me
my bad --[[User:SilverioFlame|SilverioBOMB ]] ([[User talk:SilverioFlame|talk]]) 05:19, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

== Trivia undone ==
I am not referring to the anime—in the games and presumably Origins, the "multiple" constant remains. For example, Trevor in X and Y likely owns a Mewtwo (show him a Pokémon that can Mega Evolve, he will comment on how he also owns one) and Latias' Emerald description states that 'they make a small herd'. If you absolutely ''must'' keep the trivia point, modify "as there '''are''' only one of each of the Legendary birds" to "as there '''may be''' only one of each of the Legendary birds"—it is highly probable that the birds are not unique. --[[User:Lmoamemesxd|Lmoamemesxd]] ([[User talk:Lmoamemesxd|talk]]) 02:24, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
:I mean, at the very least, the last part of the trivia should be removed since it's speculation. Bulbapedia tries to pride itself on not allowing speculation, and this trivia point goes against that policy. '''[[User:Slimey01|slimey]][[User talk:Slimey01|01]]''' 03:01, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
::Dex entries tend to spout BS. And other trainers owning Legendaries doesn't mean anything. If you can only catch one in the wild, then that means there's only one. Why other trainers have legendaries is just the case of it just being what it is.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:09, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
Just because dex entries tend to spout BS doesn't mean you can conveniently assume that they all do - so-called "BS" dex entries make outlandish claims, like Combusken and its ten kicks per second... Latias travelling in herds is perfectly feasible and not an example of this "BS". Anyway, your point that because there's only one obtainable in the wild to a player there must only be one in existence is undermined by several in-game instances - by your logic, there were only two Snorlax to exist in Generation I. Moreover, stating that trainers having legendary Pokémon is "just a case of being what it is" is vague and doesn't hold much weight. Yes, trainers with these Pokémon are typically within battle facilities and appear randomly in the case of trainers who aren't Frontier Brains... but what about Benga in BW2? Your battle with him, in which he uses a Legendary Pokémon, is acknowledged outside the facility in which it takes place. Therefore the battle happened and his Pokémon team wasn't just "what it was" (i.e. for the purpose of providing the player with the challenge). But the bottom line is that the way the trivia is written suggests that the speculation on the author's part is fact, when there is insufficient evidence and no confirmation for this being the case. Like Slimey01 said, Bulbapedia's policy is to be based on information that has been confirmed. Anyway, have a nice day. --[[User:Da real dat boi|Da real dat boi]] ([[User talk:Da real dat boi|talk]]) 18:19, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

I agree that we should remove the trivia for whatever my opinion's worth (which doesn't seem to be much). [[User:Nutter Butter|Nutter Butter]] ([[User talk:Nutter Butter|talk]]) 18:45, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
:First of all, you don't create a second account just to get your way, that's not how arguments work.
:Secondly, that's why I said "if you can '''only''' catch '''one'''". If there are two Snorlax, clearly there are more than one Snorlax. Benga is post game and is "for the purpose of providing the player with the challenge". It's not even a Gen V Legendary, so it's clearly just the way it is.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 03:31, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
Someone is wrong on the internet.
First, not actually an alternate account, but this point is essentially rendered moot until I upload a photo, as a result of people general cynicism. That aside, why would using multiple accounts affect the argument? Even if it was the alternate account it is assumed to be, how would that be any different to providing the argument on this account? Everyone on this thread (other than you) agrees with me.
Second, Benga being post game does not render him non-canon, and how is Latios/Latias not being Gen V relevant? It still proves a point.

Talk:Trio master

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Lmoamemesxd: Dragon Assent

Don't you think this is overdoing it a bit? -[[User:Happy Mask Man|Happy Mask Man]] 17:24, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

I agree. This reads a bit more like fanfiction/fan terminology than anything. --[[User:Zeta|Zeta]] 17:50, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Eh, I figured it needed to have a name. After all, there is a definite relationship between the birds and Lugia, the beasts and Ho-oh, and the Regis and Regigigas.

Think it should just be a subpage of [[Legendary trio]]? [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 20:35, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Forget a subpage, just merge it into the main trio article as a section. That article is short anyway. --WikidSmaht 09:09, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

So, uh, when's something going to be done about this silly article? -[[User:Happy Mask Man|Happy Mask Man]] 01:17, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

== Arceus ==

Isn't Arceus the master of Trio masters?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 16:31, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
:All we know is it's the master of the lake trio. Ho-Oh, Lugia, and Regigigas... well, they actually seem to be overlords of sky, sea, and land. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 16:45, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

i thought Groudon, Kyogre, and Rayquaza were the overlords of the land, sea, and sky. I kind of pictured Ho-Oh and Lugia as guardians. and i'm not even sure what to think of Regigigas as of yet. [[User:InuMimi|InuMimi]] 12:39, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Remember that while Kyogre expanded the seas, Groudon expanded the continents, and Rayquaza brought neutral ground (and not ground as in Groudon, but you get what I mean) with the sky, they are very much beings of these domains, and have never been shown to watch over the effects of the domains they represent. Rayquaza may keep the balance between Kyogre and Groudon, but it seems to simply be a leader of the Sky World, rather than its Guardian. The Hebrew mythological/legendary/Biblical creatures known as Behemoth, Leviathan, and Ziz are seen as the Great Beasts of the Earth, Sea, and Sky (respectively), but not as the Guardians of these domains. They simply are the Greatest of the inhabitants of these domains. I'm not saying that Pokémon has to adhere to the stories that its Legendaries are based on, but they do provide a hint. Now, granted, Kyogre and Groudon's information in the version they do not appear in is important in that is states that Kyogre brought the relief of rain to those caught in drought, and Groudon brought and end to the monsoon-like rains that tormented various regions. But these are born from aspects of their nature - the ability to expand the seas or earth with Drizzle and Drought respectively. This would seem to state that Kyogre is actually the guardian of the Earth - as it brought balance back to regions suffering drought, the negative aspects of Groudon - and that Groudon is the guardian of the Seas, for precisely the equal and opposite reasons. Of course, they are not the guardians of each others' domains, though they do keep each other in check somewhat, when they're not sleeping, that is. And when they are both awake - well it seemed that they actually didn't want to fight each other in the games at least, and that it was the Orbs that drove them out of control. The citizens of Sootopolis in Emerald state that the two look like they actually don't want to be fighting each other, as if they are being forced to by the Red and Blue Orbs (which may or may not be man-made). And Rayquaza has been seen to keep them in check when this does happen (though somehow Lance and Ash and co. were able to stop them without Rayquaza in the anime). But even Rayquaza has been seen as very defensive of its area - in Movie 7 it attacked Deoxys on sight simply because Deoxys entered it's domain. That's more like an attack dog than a guardian trying to keep the balance of the skies.

Lugia has shown multiple times that if it existed in the sky, it would cause catastrophic events that could effect the entire world, but by maintaining its powers beneath the sea it is able to keep the balance of the world's water, and therefore the source of life (as seen in a traditional Buddhist sense, as well as in, say, Movies 1, 2, 4, 5, and 9). Ho-oh has been seen as the maker of Rainbows and the being that ends the storms that could cause pain and suffering to the world, so it is the guardian of the Sky World. Ironically, the Legendary Birds and their actions affect the sea and are governed by Lugia, while the Legendary beasts are governed by Ho-oh.

The Regi trio seem to have been made by Man, the class of beings often associated with the Earth, as bone and muscle and flesh are very Earthy substances. But Regigigas has been known as the being that pulled the Continents together by towing them with ropes, and it is also seen in Movie 11 as providing its phenomenal strength and its mastery over the great beasts that walk the Earth (here being Mammoswine) to prevent catastrophes such as that of the Glacidia glacier moving and causing much devastation across the Earth. Regigigas is perhaps the most Deus ex Machina a Pokémon movie character could get (though Kyogre in Movie 9 comes close), as he basically solves the final crisis of the movie, when Ash and co. couldn't. Regigigas' role of herding Megafauna is very Earth-based as well - see the Ground egg group, and it's role with Mammals (or HSOWA). Mammals almost define Earth and its denizens, though they certainly are not the only ones; but their association with humans and agriculture and also with the ancient Megafauna that dominated this world in the early Cenozoic are definitely indications that Regigigas is like a human of the ancient world, and how humans see themselves as the Stewards of Earth (or at least should...).

So my point here is that while Groudon, Kyogre, and Rayquaza represent the elemental energies that empower the three domains of Earth, Sea, and Sky, respectively, it is Regigigas, Lugia, and Ho-oh (again respectively) that are the stewards of these domains. Groudon, Kyogre, and Rayquaza represent a trio (though a statistically imbalanced trio as Rayquaza is stronger than the other two), but one without a Trio Master because they keep each other in-balance ability-wise (and if Kyogre has some possible connection with "the Beast of the Sea", than it may be that the Trio Masters each keep the Weather Trio member in their domain balanced as well, though that's getting more into speculation). Regigigas, Lugia, and Ho-oh are Trio Masters because of their Pokédex and series lore about their roles, which connect them with both the Trios they control and their domains of Land, Sea, and Sky. The association with Lugia and the Moon and Ho-oh and the Sun - that's another story that has absolutely no basis save the opening screens of Silver and Gold versions.

Arceus has yet to have been shown as the Master of Trio Masters, as has he yet to have been shown as the Master of the Dragon Trio (though this will probably be revealed next summer with Movie 12). So until then, Arceus remains as the Trio Master of the Lake Trio, only. But having created the entire world and its planes, I would assume he could be considered the master of the Weather Trio, the Dragon Trio, as well as relegating the Beast Trio, Bird Trio, and Regi Trio to Ho-oh, Lugia, and Regigigas. That, however, is speculation for now. Thank you for your time. [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 03:53, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

== Arceus ==

Isn't he the trio master of the dragons as well.We know for sure he created Dialga and Palkia (and he probably created Giratina to start the reverse world but that is just speculation) which is like how Ho-oh created the Beasts and Ho-oh is the beast master so Arceus should be noted as the Dragon Trio Master or as Master of Dialga and Palkia.
[[User:Sailor Earth|Sailor Earth]] 16:22, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

True, but if he's only the master of Dialga and Palkia, then he's not a Trio Master, just a Duo Master, so to speak.

:Please add your sig with the four tildes after you comment. Arceus is almost certainly the Trio Master of the Dragon Trio as well; however, his relationship with Giratina is still not yet confirmed, while it's been established that he either created Dialga and Palkia or else they are warring aspects of himself (sorry for using the masculine noun-forms). Until Movie 12 comes out, we probably won't have an answer to that, so for now, Arceus remains only as the Trio Master of the Lake Trio. [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 03:56, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

== lake trio master ==

in the [[Pokémon Pearl]] [[PokéDex]] data itt says the followinng : ''It is thought that [[Uxie]],[[Mesprit]] and [[Azelf]] all came from the same egg.'' Is it the egg that [[Arceus]] came from or another [[legendary Pokémon]] ?--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 12:58, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
: Who knows, It might've been an egg fromm mew? --[[User:Force Fire|Force]] [[User talk:Force Fire|Fire]] 13:08, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

== Ah Ah Ah Ah... ==

What about deleting this article? Come on, this is just random observation with fanwanked explanation. We don't need article about this! --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 17:08, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
:A little late, but this should merged into the legendary trio article. Anyone oppose? [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 03:12, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
::Naw, it's a good article. It could be fleshed out a bit more, and after Movie 12, it will probably be bigger with the Dragon Trio added. I say keep it for now. [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 03:58, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
:::I agree with Maxim here. The article is inconsistent and attempts to reveal patterns that don’t exist. Lugia definitely isn’t the master of the birds in the games, for example, and Ho‐oh is not the master of the beasts in the anime (AFAIK; bear in mind that I haven’t watched the show in years). The fact that we ''repeat'' Rayquaza really shows that this is just shoehorning. [[Legendary trio]]s this is not. [[User:IIMarckus|IIMarckus]] 22:13, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

==Lake Trio Giratina==
I'm starting to think that the lake trio is led by Giratina. After all, they did ''kinda'' summon him and lead the player to him ''and'' he appears in the fourth lake of Sinnoh. This is purely speculation but so are the others, except the Golems.[[User:Shadow1337|Shadow1337]] 23:57, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
:Yeah good points, I think you could be right yknow. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]] 20:58, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
::Possibly, however, it clearly states that Arceus created the Lake Trio himself. [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 21:18, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

==Isn't Arceus the master of two trios?==
I'm pretty sure he's the master of the Dragon trio too. [[User:Master Lucario|Master Lucario]]
:As {{U|Unown Lord}} said, "''It is one thing to claim that Dialga, Palkia and Giratina constitute a trio, but going as far as suggesting that Arceus created Giratina is simply unfounded and will be avoided until proven in-game.''"--[[Blastoise (Pokémon)|K]][[Gary's Blastoise|kl]][[Blastoise (TCG)|l]][[User:Kkllnn|nn]] [[User Talk:Kkllnn| blastoise]] 22:34, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
::As I've said numerous times throughout this talk page, we'll get our answer most likely in Movie 12. Wait until then. [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 04:47, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

:::In Platinum, it said that Giratina was the member that "no one talked about." You can't create two members of a trio without creating the third, especially when the third is basically a parallel universe! [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]]) 13:18, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

== No proof for Giratina...? ==

...I recall in Pokemon Platinum, at the Spear Pillar, Cynthia states that Giratina was created alongside Dialga and Palkia, though never talked about...- ''unsigned comment from {{u|M190049}} ([[User talk:M190049|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/M190049|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''
:It isn't a trio master.--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[Quilava (Pokémon)|Racer''']] [[User talk:RexRacer|'''''-talk''''']] 21:25, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
::...I didn't say it is. In the text, it says "According to legend, Arceus created Dialga and Palkia. Whether Arceus created Giratina or not is unknown."
::...It kind of confirms this in Platinum.
:: [[User:M190049|'''''~m190049''''']][[User talk:M190049|'''''~talk''''']] 21:47, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
:::With the facts, it seems Arceus DID in fact create Giratina. It does kinda confirm it in Pt...--[[User:Dragonbeastx|DRAGON]][[User talk:Dragonbeastx|BEAST]][[User:Dragonbeastx/The Aura Spot|X]] 21:50, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
::::Okay than. I'll remove the sentence. [[User:M190049|'''''~m190049''''']][[User talk:M190049|'''''~talk''''']] 21:55, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
::::M'kay, I removed it and replaced it with a new one. [[User:M190049|'''''~m190049''''']][[User talk:M190049|'''''~talk''''']] 22:08, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

== I think that this chart would be better ==

I'm just not sure wether or not you'll agree.
{| border=1 width=500px align="center" style="background: #fff; border:1px solid #000; border-collapse:collapse;" cellpadding="3px"
|- style="background: #C0C0FF;"
! Trio
! Master
! Relation
|-
| [[a:File:Legendary_birds.jpg]] [[Legendary Birds]]
| align="center" | [[Image:249.png]] {{p|Lugia}}
| Lugia rises to quell the fighting of the [[legendary birds]] in ''[[The Power of One]]'', and is the only one who is able to do so.
|-
| [[File:Neo3_beasts.jpg|100px]] [[Legendary beasts]]
| align="center" | [[Image:250.png]] {{p|Ho-Oh}}
| After the three [[legendary beasts]] perished in the fire at the [[Brass Tower]], Ho-Oh revived them.
|-
| [[a:File:GenIII_Battle.jpg]] [[Weather Trio]]
| align="center" | [[Image:384.png]] {{p|Rayquaza}}
| Rayquaza may internally be the master of the [[weather trio]], primarily because it had quelled the fighting between the other members of its trio in {{game|Emerald}}.
|-
| [[File:Legendary titans.png|100px]] [[Legendary Golems]]
| align="center" | [[Image:486.png]] {{p|Regigigas}}
| Regigigas will awaken on bringing the three [[legendary golems]] to [[Snowpoint Temple]]. Regigigas' {{game|Platinum}} Pokédex entry also claims that it built statues made of {{p|Regirock|rocks}}, {{p|Regice|ice}}, and {{p|Registeel|magma}}.
|-
| [[File:Dialga-Palkia-Giratina.png|100px]] [[Dragon Trio]]
| align="center" rowspan="2" | [[Image:493.png]] {{p|Arceus}}
| According to legend, Arceus created Dialga and Palkia, and it's stated in {{game|Platinum}} that Giratina was created alongside them, thus completing the [[dragon trio]]. All four legendary Pokémon will battle in the 12th Movie, ''[[Arceus: To a Conquering Spacetime]]''.
|-
| [[a:File:MespritAzelfUxie.jpg]] [[Lake Trio]]
| Arceus is also said to have created the [[lake trio]] whilst creating the universe, making Arceus the only trio master that is related to two legendary trios rather than just one.

|}
This chart is smaller and less image heavy, and it's a little more convenient if your looking for the master of a certain trio. [[wp:Dolphin|Dolphins]][[User:Dolphin2|_are]][[Special:Contributions|_awesome]] (and [[Vulpix (Pokémon)|Vulpix]] are too)! 20:27, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
:The fact that the images clash with each other turns me off on the idea. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 20:57, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
::What do you mean by ''clash together''? [[wp:Dolphin|Dolphins]][[User:Dolphin2|_are]][[Special:Contributions|_awesome]] (and [[Vulpix (Pokémon)|Vulpix]] are too)! 13:35, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
:::They don't look good together. Also, it is hard to see which trio is which; they all just look like blurs of color at that resolution. With that said, the point of an article is to read it and not just look at the pictures, so how about we do just that. If one reads the column title it shouldn't be a problem. Not to mention the master is the first in the row, and therefore the one the eye should first travel to. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 21:19, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
::::They look fine to me. {{tt|I can see the images just fine.|and if you can't, then that's what the names are for}}And do you ''realy'' think that ''every'' pokémon in ''every'' trio should be shown? {{tt|Isn't this article about the ''masters?''|Hence the name?}} [[wp:Dolphin|Dolphins]][[User:Dolphin2|_are]][[Special:Contributions|_awesome]] (and [[Vulpix (Pokémon)|Vulpix]] are too)! 23:52, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
:::::Uh...yeah? That's what that column is for. The images are all of varying quality too. The Bird Trio and Lake Trio are screenshots and the others are official art. The The Regi art is the worst of them all: anime image on a white background. If we use this, just the their menu sprites in there.
{| border=1 width=500px align="center" style="background: #fff; border:1px solid #000; border-collapse:collapse;" cellpadding="3px"
|- style="background: #C0C0FF;"
! Trio
! Master
! Relation
|-
| [[File:144MS.png]][[File:145MS.png]][[File:146MS.png]] [[Legendary Birds]]
| align="center" | [[Image:249.png]] {{p|Lugia}}
| Lugia rises to quell the fighting of the [[legendary birds]] in ''[[The Power of One]]'', and is the only one who is able to do so.
|-
|}
:::::And if you do this, make sure all three sprites are on the same row...not like how I have it there with Moltres on it's own line. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 11:10, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
::::::You know, Sketch, you might have an idea there. The Master is larger than the pokémon in the trio, which makes it the first thing you see, and the trio pokémon are {{tt|small and almost unnoticeable|which is a good thing, after all this article is about the masters}}. One thing's for sure, it's better than mine. [[wp:Dolphin|Dolphins]][[User:Dolphin2|_are]][[Special:Contributions|_awesome]] (and [[Vulpix (Pokémon)|Vulpix]] are too)! 21:02, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

== What. ==

A quote from the Trivia:
''
"Lugia is the only trio master who did not debut in the same generation as its trio."''

What about Regigigas? It's from Gen. IV and its trio is Gen. III. [[User:Reign|Reign]] 01:23, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
:Has been removed. You know, you are allowed to take out this stuff yourself. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 21:38, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
::Ehh...Every edit I make someone reverts and tells me not to do it again, I decided to take the safer route here. [[User:Reign|Reign]] 09:10, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

== Arceus the double master ==

Isn't Arceus really the master of all the trios? [[User:CuboneKing|Cu]][[User talk:CuboneKing|bo]][[Special:Contributions/CuboneKing|ne]][[Cubone (Pokémon)|King]] 17:00, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Well, Arceus is the master of two trios but he can boss all the other masters about. [[User:Lunick v sonela|Lunick v sonela]] 17:07, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

== Lugia ==

Was Lugia's relation to the other three birds ever mentioned in any of the games? Or is it just anime exclusive? I don't remember there being any mention of it in the original GSC games, but is there anything about it in the remakes? [[User:Morgil27|Morgil27]] 17:59, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
:It's in Mystery Dungeon R/B. —'''darklord[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|trom]]''' 20:55, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
::Ah, i see. I haven't played any of those Mystery Dungeon games. But aren't they in an entirely different world then the main games and anime, though? [[User:Morgil27|Morgil27]] 21:08, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

== Real History ==

I'm from Portugal and when they distributed Arceus for Diamond, Pearl and Platinum versions they gave me a booklet telling the history. I quote:

''Arceus is regarded as the Pokémon God, the creator of the Pokémon universe''.

''This is a legendary Pokémon, Alpha species and normal type. ''Though, if it have some elemental plates it can be transformed in one of 17 types of Pokémon.'' This is its powerful multi-type ability.''

''The story goes that Arceus was born from an egg in chaos even before the outbreak of the cosmos.''

''Arceus began creating Pokémon to put everything in place. The first thing he did was to create Mew to take account of the universe, this one and Arceus are the Pokémon that accompanied the formation process of the cosmos.''

''Then he had to create Shaymin so that nature arise and to maintain balance. Arceus created Dialga, which in turn gave rise to time, and Palkia, which led to the space. Giratina created to control the death and, if necessary, act as mediator between Dialga and Palkia.''

''After that, it created Jirachi that put the stars on firmament. Once created light, thanks to Jirachi, immediatly Darkrai could be seen in Arceus' shadow. Arceus thought to give a mystic touch to the universe and created Cresselia, the first Pokémon with feelings. This created the moon and, thanks to the feelings, wanted some help and company, so it created the legendary trio formed by Uxie, Mesprit and Azelf and later the Clefairy. This legendary trio was later charged with providing living beings with feelings, like emotion, knowledge and will, basic features that represent each.
'''Welcome to the Pokémon Universe.'''''

That means Arceus created Mew, Shaymin, Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, Jirachi and Cresselia. Cresselia created Clefairy, Uxie, Mesprit and Azelf. Darkrai was created by Arceus' shadow.

For people who knows portuguese:

''Arceus é considerado como o Pokémon Deus, criador do universo Pokémon.''

''Trata-se de um Pokémon lendário, da especie Alpha e de tipo Normal. No entanto, se possuir algumas das elemental plates pode transformar-se num dos 17 tipos de Pokémon. esta é a sua poderosa capacidade multi-tipo.''

''Reza a história de que Arceus nasceu de um ovo imerso no caos ainda antes de eclodir o cosmos.''

''Arceus começou a criar Pokémon para colocar tudo no seu lugar. A primeira coisa que fez foi criar Mew para que tomassse conta do universo, pelo que este último e Arceus são os Pokémon que acompanharam o processo de formação do cosmos.''

''Depois teve de criar Shaymin para que a natureza surgisse e para manter o equilibrio. Arceus criou Dialga, que por sua vez deu origem ao tempo, e Palkia, que deu origem ao espaço. Criou Giratina para que controlasse a morte e, se necessário, agisse como mediador entre Dialga e Palkia.''

''Posteriormente criou Jirachi que colocou as estrelas no firmamento. Uma vez criada a luz, graças a Jirachi, imediatamente foi possível ver Darkrai na sombra de Arceus. Arceus pensou dar ao universo um toque místico pelo que criou Cresselia, o primeiro Pokémon com sentimentos. Este criou a lua e, graças aos seu sentimentos, desejou ter ajuda e companhia, pelo que criou o trio lendário formado por Uxie, Mesprit e Azelf e posteriormente os Clefairy, este trio lendário ficou encarregue de mais tarde dotar os seres vivos de sentimentos, como a emoção, a sabedoria e a vontade, cracterísticas básicas que representam cada um dele.''
'''''Bem-vindo ao universo Pokémon.''''' {{unsigned|SakasFixe}}
:Sounds like fanfiction.
:Please sign your posts with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 20:08, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Well, it's not fanfiction because it's real. When I read it for the first time I was confused too, but... it also says how to receive Arceus and it's caracteristics:

Pokédex nr. 493
Specie: Alpha
Type: Normal
Ability: Multi-Type
High: 3,2 m
Weight: 320,0 kg
Level: 100
Experience points: 1.250.000
Object: Baya Magua (Magua Berry) {{unsigned|SakasFixe}}
::Could you possibly show us a scan or pics of this pamphlet?
::Please sign your posts with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 20:44, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
:::I'm calling unofficial until GameFreak of Japan says something like this. "Giratina was created to control death"? If I'm nto mistaken it was confirmed to be antimatter some time ago. [[User:Reign|Reign]] 20:48, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

How can I Ulpoad pictures to Bulbapedia?

I knew about the control of antimatter but, I'm good in Particule Phisics, if Giratina controls Antimatter it must be made of antimatter and he couldn't come to our world or we to its.

--Sakas 18:26, 13 April 2010 (UTC)SakasFixe

Ok forget it.

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:I don't think you understand the nature of our request to see scans/pics. We want to see the part that proves that it is officially endorsed by Nintendo.
:Please sign your posts with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). [[User:Umeko|梅子]][[User talk:Umeko|❀]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|✿]] 02:04, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Ok! These pics were taken with my DSi and, I don't know why, only three pics are jpeg, others are the symbol of Nintendo, Cover of the booklet and back cover. Thoses pics was, like the others, transfered for facebook and the format is png

I will try to convert them

Sakas 19:49, 14 April 2010 (UTC)SakasFixe

Ok I get it
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:I'm still doubtful of it. It's stated ''in the games'' that the lake guardians were made by Arceus, along with Dialga and Palkia (and Giratina, too, as Cynthia reveals). Nintendo knows their legends. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:52, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

So why did they created that story? It is real! Trust me! I know it seems weird but that's what is written there. I understand your position. You can ask Nintendo. And... where is stated ''in the games'' that they are a creation of Arceus?
Sakas 17:43, 25 May 2010 (UTC)SakasFixe

well that means that Crescelia is a the trio master of the pixie trio, denouncing Arceus as their trio masters, that also means that the trio hatched from the same crescelia egg.--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 14:16, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Probably

the only possible explanation is that nintendo wanted to release this as a surprise goodie to stir things up along with the figures, so they cancelled it in all over world but forgot potugal, so its a company mistake, although that thing revealed alot such as creation of darkrai, one can see the two having some slight resemblance only by the shape of the head (somewhat), and thus arceus and darkrai are somewhat of a duo, somewhat, and some what of a trio if a crescelia is considered, and if so this is the first time that a trio master is part of a trio, but i'm still sceptical, didnt anybody else get such a booklet in portugal??? {{unsigned|Nobody777}}

Yeah You're right! Why did Darkrai born in Arceus' shadow? Maybe Arceus is too powerful that even his shadow is able do create a Pokémon {{unsigned|SakasFixe}}

== Umm... C*CK PUNCH! ==

But seriously. Read this. There could be a subpage about Legendary Quads. Just for the Muskeeter group.--[[User talk:444Zekrom|444]][[User:444Zekrom|Z]][[Zekrom|ekrom]] 10:30, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

== Landros, master of the Raijin trio? ==

Has a higher base stat total, is encountered in a different way (and level), requires both the other members to be captured to be encountered... It is fairly different from the other 2, and it screams trio master for me. We need to get more information, but keep it in mind. [[User:Eriorguez|Eriorguez]] 17:24, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
:Done.--[[User talk:444Zekrom|444]][[User:444Zekrom|Z]][[Zekrom|ekrom]] 09:56, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

== My thoughts on Keldeo ==

I think that Keldeo should be the leader of the Musketeer group since it is an event Pokémon and requires the other three to make it learn the Sacred Sword (I think) move. —[[User:Zekasaur|♫Ze]][[User talk:Zekasaur|kas]][[Special:Contributions/Zekasaur|aur♫]] 11:39, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
:The problem is, it's not the leader. In fact, it's the opposite: Keldeo is the youngest of the group and was adopted by the other three. --[[User:AndyPKMN|AndyPKMN]] 12:25, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
::You mean {{m|Secret Sword|Sword of Mystery}}, but the Musketeers are definitely different than the other groups. --[[User:Venomoth|'''''V'''e№moth'']][[User talk:Venomoth| ♦]] 23:15, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
:::Thanks, I was really confused. —[[User:Zekasaur|♫Ze]][[User talk:Zekasaur|kas]][[Special:Contributions/Zekasaur|aur♫]] 04:51, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
::::I agree with Zekasaur. Here is my quote from the Musketeer's page: "If, as we have noted, Keldeo is not truly part of the trio, and it is (semi) far apart from the others in the Pokedex, wouldn't Keldeo be qualified for Trio Master? This would also save us from the trio/musketeers/quartet dilemma." So, how about it? [[User:Mewtwo777|I am Darth Mewtwo... Fear me, and my team made entirely of Mewtwo!!!]] 18:37, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

== Kyurem ==

Seems to me it's probably meant to be the trio master, consider: It's the "Boundary pokemon," probably meaning the one who maintains balance between Reshiram and Zekrom and apparently the game creators made it the one that could use {{m|Ice Burn|Cold Flare}} and {{m|Freeze Shock|Freeze Bolt}} (though apparently not officially), moves containing both types of the other two, they can't. Also it has higher HP. --—[[User:Venomoth|'''''V'''e№moth'']][[User talk:Venomoth| ♦]] 20:37, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
:It's too early to say. We'll have to wait for the third game or more info to come out first [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 20:49, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
May I point out that Kyurem's base stat total is lesser than that of zekrom and reshiram, so there might be a new one to fill that void as it would be hard for it to control those other two. Just a thought, mind you. We'll all find out eventually. [[User:Luxraychu|Luxraychu]] 00:02, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Whenever I join in a conversation, it dies. Awww... [[User:Luxraychu|Luxraychu]] 03:29, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

== Lake Trio ==
Is it possible Cresselia is the master of the Lake Trio? As stated above, in the Real History section, Cresselia did (possibly) create the trio, and as quoted from Cresselia's page, "Cresselia's three main colors (pink, yellow and blue) are the same as the main colors of the Lake guardians." It seems they also used the same shades of the above colors. In addition, they are all Psychic type. [[User:Mewtwo777|I am Darth Mewtwo... Fear me, and my team made entirely of Mewtwo!!!]] 22:12, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
:Hello? I would like an answer. [[User:Mewtwo777|I am Darth Mewtwo... Fear me, and my team made entirely of Mewtwo!!!]] 04:18, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
::Even if it is, there is not enough evidence that Cresselia is the Lake Trio's master. :/ --[[User:Han Ji-Wan|Han Ji-Wan]] 04:26, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

==Legendary Golems==
Should it say some where that Regirock, Regice, Registeel, and Regigigas are all weak to fighting? Or does it already say that somewhere? ([[User:Plokool|Plokool]] 02:18, 27 October 2011 (UTC))

== Kyurem vs Cobalion ==

Since this new movie is featuring Kyurem and the musketeer Pokemon, is it possible that Kyurem is their master? Or is it to early to tell? Once we see the movie, if it turns out my theory is right, I think it's worth adding, but I suppose time will tell. [[User:Frenchhorn|Frenchhorn]] 03:57, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

:Besides the movie, what does Kyurem have in common with the musketeers? The types don't coincide ({{t|Flying}} for the [[Legendary birds]]), there is no historical connection ({{p|Ho-Oh}} bringing back the [[Legendary beasts]] after their death, Landorus stopping Thundurus and Tornadus, Arceus creating the creation trio and the lake guardian trio), there is no name similarity to make them slot straight in (Regi- Rock, Steel, Ice, Gigas), and there is no ability connection (Rayquaza's Air Lock to neutralise Kyogre and Groudon). There is no point speculating until Kyurem and Keldeo are given a proper spotlight in an upcoming game. '''[[User:Toon Ganondorf|Toon Ganondorf ]] [[User Talk:Toon Ganondorf|(t]] [[Special:Contributions/Toon Ganondorf|c)]]''' 22:27, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

== duo+master=/=trio ==

Doesn't "trio" imply three equal parts?
For example I find it silly that it's the "weather trio" when 2 of them cause weather, and the stronger one neutralizes it (not to mention the dozen other ways Rayquaza is superior to them, including a more intelligent guardian-like role, instead of wreaking havoc). A weather-duo with an anti-weather-guardian would be the right direction. Same for the cloud demons. And the musketeers; if anything Cobalion is at least part of the trio, Keldeo the adoptee is the one whos place in it is in the air for now. But even then, Cobalion being their master, based on its vague role in the family, with nothing else that would make it stick out in any way (unlike Keldeo) is too much. They don't have a master, just a student. Also the word master feels so misleading (it's not like they own or control each other), but.. there is no fitting word for meaningless obvious connections between legendaries that I know of.

I also want to note that the pokemon fanbase is exaggerating the creation myths/legends part of legendary pokemon when it comes to this kind of speculation (which may be what GF were aiming for though XD). The only things that really presents these creatures as supernatural beings with godlike powers, are their myths. The facts are simply that pokemon exist, who are stronger than usual and have some neat abilities (affecting the weather, manipulating dimensions a bit). They don't even show any sign of near human-like intelligence, actually they can happen to get caught into pokeballs by strong trainers and battle for them like usual (unless one considered anime canon, but its kind of hard to take serious when they disregard lots of things from the games and make up just as much own crap as they go along). Think of it that way; in the old times, some people witnessed a legendary like Groudon or Arceus, saw water evaporating wherever it went/saw it call a bunch of Unowns to make an egg or two fall out of the sky, and as they passed the info on, it turned into myth starring Groudon as the landmass god or Arceus as the creator of the universe. Same for the rest. They didn't create anything, they're just very rare/gone/hidden and best at manipulating specific things. Thanks for anyone who actually reads this, just had to vent it somewhere already Dx --[[User:Saiph charon|Saiph charon]] 15:14, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
:In regards to your opening sentence, the word "trio" just means "group of three", and in no way implies equality within the group. [[User:Werdnae|Werdnae]] [[User talk:Werdnae|(talk)]] 04:02, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
:: Well alright, but what makes the difference between the Regis being a trio with master instead of being a quartet, if not that the three share more similarities between each other than with Regigigas? If the Regis aren't a quartet then Groudon and Kyogre are a duo with a master/guardian (as they have so many similarities while Rayquaza sticks out as superior on multiple levels, even design-wise), same for the Kami. Also at the moment we have no idea what will become of Kyurem and how it really relates to the other 2, but in the current state they're not a trio by that logic (even if Kyurem gets buffed up, itd be a Rayquaza situation in the end).--[[User:Saiph charon|Saiph charon]] 11:03, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
:::Rayquaza doesn't really stick out from Groudon and Kyogre to me. They all have something to do with weather (neutralizing weather still involves weather), have similar markings, their movesets are even slightly similar. I can see how the Regis and Regigigas could be a quartet, except that Regigigas came out in a different generation. I feel like that sets it farther apart from the other Regis than Rayquaza is from Groudon and Kyogre. Plus, I find that the reference to Regigigas creating the Regi trio also sets it apart. If it created them, shouldn't it be their master and not part of their group? Like Ho-oh and the Legendary Beasts. These are just my opinions, though. [[User:Crystal Talian|Crystal]] [[User talk:Crystal Talian|Talian]] 11:15, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
::::It could have caused Sandstorm or Hail but instead it neutralizes weather, that is clearly superior. It doesnt wreak havoc, it steps in to calm the idiots down. It has 3 different colors of markings (red, black AND yellow) instead of just 1 (red or black). It has 2 types instead of 1. It has superior stats.... either everything ends up being part of a single octagesimaltet or its grouped by sharing the same amount of similarities. lol.--[[User:Saiph charon|Saiph charon]] 15:26, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

== Kyurem ==

Well B2W2 have been out for a while and I think it's safe to say {{p|Kyurem}} is the Tao Trio master.[[User:Micamike45|Micamike45]] ([[User talk:Micamike45|talk]]) 04:31, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
:Do you have any reason why it would be the master? [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 06:46, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
::Well, {{p|Kyurem}} seems to be the corpse of the original dragon. Kyurem can be combined with {{p|Zekrom}} to form Black Kyurem or with {{p|Reshiram}} to form White Kyurem with the DNA Splicers, which makes Kyrem seem dominant over the other two. It represents a boundary of some sort. It also wants to reunite with Zekrom and Reshiram. [[User:Micamike45|Micamike45]] ([[User talk:Micamike45|talk]]) 19:08, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
:::I disagree, it didn't display that it could have "dominated" them on its own. It was only with Team Plasma's intervention that it was able to, as otherwise it would not have had the DNA Splicers necessary for that to occur, nor the power to track down Reshiram/Zekrom. Black Kyurem and White Kyurem are more "proof" of Ghetsis (and later the player character) ruling over Reshiram/Zekrom than Kyurem doing so. Personally, I've never really liked the concept of "trio masters". People seem too eager to force things into these roles when they may or may not be fitting. But this is getting off-topic from my original comment. >.> Sorry for the rambling. [[User:RiverShock|RiverShock]] ([[User talk:RiverShock|talk]]) 02:23, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
::::The DNA Splicers are originally owned by Drayden not made by Team Plasma, so Black/White Kyurem could have been formed without Team Plasma's existence. I don't remember exactly how Drayden said he aquired them but I think he said they are passed down by his family which leaves their origin in question.[[User:Micamike45|Micamike45]] ([[User talk:Micamike45|talk]]) 23:33, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
:::::You missed the point. If Team Plasma hadn't stolen them, Kyurem would have never fused with Reshiram or Zekrom, or even been able to. Drayden had no reason or desire to use them, and I'm not even sure he knew what their use was. [[User:RiverShock|RiverShock]] ([[User talk:RiverShock|talk]]) 15:50, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
::::::I realize that, I'm just saying it's possible Kyurem could have fused with Reshiram/Zekrom in the past without Plasma's intervention since the DNA Splicers existed before Team Plasma. I will adimit though, that the DNA Splicers are probably human-made and not created by Kyurem or anything.[[User:Micamike45|Micamike45]] ([[User talk:Micamike45|talk]]) 02:22, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

== Meloetta the Kami Trio's Master ==

We've placed Landorus as the Kami Trio's in house Trio master...but wouldn't Meloetta also fit the bill since it controlled their transformation in the anime, and got them back under control after they went berserk.

I know its just in the anime, but we consider Lugia the bird trio's master and that was in a movie.

'''Evidence:''' Meloetta, like the Kami trio, also has a form change.

Meloetta is needed, at least in the anime, to help the Trio achieve their Therian Forme.

When all three went berserk, it was Meloetta who calmed them, and then changed them back to their Incarnate forme.

The evidence of Meloetta being the true Trio master is piling up. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 22:25, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

But the game doesn't have enough evidence to support that. Plus, they dont share similarities in origin. However, If you look at the base stats, Meloetta does have a base stat equivalent to landorus. However, I dont think there are very concrete evidence that support this. --[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] ([[User talk:Nobody777|talk]]) 03:45, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

:: We're not going by the games here; if we were going by the games then Lugia would be completely ousted as the Trio master for the legendary birds since the games have no evidence for it. Lugia's title was granted because of the movie a power of one, just as Meloetta's title should be granted [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 21:01, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

I really think this should be discussed. Meloetta, albeit in the anime only, is definitely fitting for the role. Also as I've mentioned, Lugia got its title from a movie which isn't much different than the anime. Meloetta is needed to call upon the trio to the ruins, transform them into their Therian forms, control them, calm them and turn them back to their Incarnate forms. It also (as pointed out by Nobody777) has the same stat total with other similarities such as gaining atk in their alternate forms. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 10:12, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
:This will not be discused, because Trio Masters are dictated by the games' canon. Since it's established in the games that Landorus is the Trio Master, there is no discussion in that regard. In the case of Lugia, there's no mention wether if it is or not, hence, another continuity's canon had to be adopted, since its role in the movie was fitting that of a Master. If the games said otherwise, it would be removed of this list. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 09:55, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

== Suggested merge ==

This is a fan term for a phenomenon that's only loosely present in the games, and no explicit connection/comparison between trio masters has (to my knowledge) ever been made in canon, suggesting to me that there is not a pressing need for them to be grouped together in the mainspace. Furthermore, virtually every instance of the subject matter itself is pretty debatable:
* Lugia is a trio master only in the anime
* Ho-Oh is a trio master only in the games
* Rayquaza and Landorus (and Kyurem, if you subscribe to that theory, which is mentioned in Trivia but not in the main body of the page) are already members of their trios, making them not quite fit the pattern
* Regigigas and Arceus are said to have created the trios they're supposedly "trio master" of, but there's otherwise no indication they actually have any sway over them the way other trio masters are supposed to
* The Swords of Justice are properly a quartet, not a trio, and if we're going to single any of them out, it should really be Keldeo since it's the one that ''canon actually does single out as different from the others'' (but more importantly, the Swords canonically don't fit the trio-and-master dynamic to begin with, so they shouldn't be here at all even if the page continues to exist)
So yeah, basically, I don't believe there's any actual canonical justification for this to be a mainspace page. I think we should do what we did with Electric rodents: pare it down to the essentials and use that to expand its section on [[Appendix:Fan terminology]]. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 20:02, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

:Months ago I brought up the issue for Landorus being given the title despite in the anime Meloetta having actual sway over how they take their other forms and the only response was a juvenile argument backed by no real evidence, and the Lugia evidence manipulated to fit their POV.

:I'm actually more in favor of abolishing this entire article, since it serves no real purpose and is nothing but speculation brought forth through fan head cannon and happenstance evidence weaker than an ounce of instant coffee in a water cooler. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 20:58, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
::I agree that this article/concept is too much of fanon. However, like "electric rodents", the concept of a "trio master" is popular enough in fanon that we'll have to document it somehow, but I don't think this quite warrants its own page either. I personally support a merge to the [[Appendix:Fan terminology]], this is the kind of thing that article is for. ''Popular'' fanon should be documented, but not treated like it's an official thing. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|'''Zesty''']][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|'''Cactus''']] 22:05, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
:::Well, since its a page specifically for fandom stuff, I think it should be placed there. But the style of the article seems sterile, so what info would really be added that isn't already on the article to begin with?[[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 23:29, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

== Other 'references' ==

I'm a little unsure about some of the things that appear in the {{DL|Trio master|other references to trio masters}} section. To me, some of them really don't seem like references at all, namely having to purify all of the Shadow Pokémon in Colosseum and having to befriend all 300 Pokémon in the Oblivia Browser in Guardian signs in order to encounter Ho-oh and Lugia, respectively. Yes, in each of these cases the befriending of a legendary trio is required to meet their master, but befriending the trio ''specifically'' is not. The three legendary birds are indeed needed to encounter Lugia in Guardian Signs, but so are 297 other Pokémon. That doesn't seem like much of a reference to me. It's not even like they're the only legendary trio that appear in the Oblivia Browser anyway. This also applies to the legendary golems in Shadows of Almia. I think that these three points should be removed from the page. [[User:Dannyboy601|Dannyboy601]] ([[User talk:Dannyboy601|talk]]) 16:34, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

== Why does this exist? ==

Why has this fanfiction page returned to dominance? It makes no sense to have this on every legendary page and only even begins to make sense by combining sources from difference canon. Lugia is not a "trio master" in the games and it's not a term that's ever even uttered in the anime or manga, any details that this page tells us can be told on the appropriate section of each Pokemons page (such as Lugias relation to the legendary birds in the anime). This is an eyesore on an otherwise factual and accurate wiki and needs to be mass deleted.[[User:Five|Five]] ([[User talk:Five|talk]]) 09:14, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
:I fully agree, but as far as I'm aware this has been brought up before and never gained much traction. We would need to get the approval of the {{bp|Editorial Board}} to delete it, so the most effective path forward might be to make your pitch on one of their talk pages in hopes of convincing them to discuss it. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 16:14, 16 July 2016 (UTC)

::I disagree, this page is useful in describing a recurring relationship between legendary Pokémon in the games. While I agree that Lugia's inclusion is perhaps questionable, the others are clearly trio masters. Ho-oh resurrected the dogs, regigagas is clearly the master of the regis, arceus created the creation and lake trio, Rayquaza and Landorus are clearly internal leaders. It's clear that whenever there's a trio, there's usually a clear external or internal leader/master/overseer (whatever you want to call them). I say that's noteworthy [[User:Jmvb|JMVB - I don't what to put here.]] ([[User talk:Jmvb|talk]]) 18:52, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
:::It's not canonical, though. It's all fan inferences. It belongs, at best, on [[Appendix:Fan terminology]], not in the mainspace. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 05:40, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
::::Perhaps it isn't canon. However, the issue for deletion is apparently "it is fanon and therefore does not belong in the mainspace." And if that is the reason, then [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Special:WhatLinksHere/File:Project_Fandom_logo.png&limit=100 we had better be prepared to do quite a bit of deleting] for a reason that seems to be worded oddly. --[[User:Super goku|Super goku]] ([[User talk:Super goku|talk]]) 06:00, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
:::::Fanon =/= fandom. The vast majority of those pages are documenting the Pokémon fandom in real life and/or on the Internet. This page (and a small handful of pages on that list, like [[HM slave]]) is instead trying to describe something in the games that is entirely inferred or invented by fans. The latter category of pages, in my opinion, do not belong on a self-respecting encyclopedia like we hope to be. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 06:08, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
:::::Wikis should always be factual, preferably with supporting evidence. My problem is that many articles on here now, this trio master stuff specifically, relies far too heavily on assumptions, theories and fan ideas, most of which only make sense if you assume anime rules and lore apply to the games, which is something we can say with 100% certainty is not the case. I can understand the argument that fanon has its place here, but it shouldn't be so prominent in the description for every single legendary. It's misleading, if not completely incorrect.[[User:Five|Five]] ([[User talk:Five|talk]]) 09:32, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
I agree that the page should be deleted. "Trio master" is not a defined, solid concept, and the relationships referred to on the page could easily be moved into a '''Relationships between Legendary Pokémon''' section of the Legendary Pokémon article. --[[User:Lmoamemesxd|Lmoamemesxd]] ([[User talk:Lmoamemesxd|talk]]) 10:07, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

Talk:Blue (Origins)

2016-07-22T01:42:25Z

Lmoamemesxd: RIP Force Fire

==Its not Blue==
This guy is not Blue. The subs clearly state multiple times that he is Green.--[[User:Stevemagegod|Stevemagegod]] ([[User talk:Stevemagegod|talk]]) 22:32, 29 October 2013 (UTC)Stevemagegod
:None of the subs are official. Also, the subs are for the Japanese version, where he is named Green. His official English name is Blue. --[[User:Funktastic~!|'''It's''' '''Funktastic~!''']][[User talk:Funktastic~!|''話してください'']] 22:34, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

== Blue may have caught 149 pokemon ==

He might have caught Trio legendary birds Pokemon as shows in the tv anime their more than one super rare pokemon as proven many times in tv anime
Ash met Lugia in the movie and another one in the Johto season as mother to the infant. --[[User:SilverioFlame|SilverioBOMB ]] ([[User talk:SilverioFlame|talk]]) 04:56, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
:The Origins was based off the games, so it follows the game's logic not the anime's.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:58, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
oh but on the File 4: Charizard trivia saids Blue caught 149 pokemon so it must be wrong--[[User:SilverioFlame|SilverioBOMB ]] ([[User talk:SilverioFlame|talk]]) 05:04, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
:Blue said in the show that he had caught 149 Pokémon, so that's not incorrect.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 05:17, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
Oh i see what i type mistake
onBlue page saids 148 pokemon not 149 sorry that u misunderstood me
my bad --[[User:SilverioFlame|SilverioBOMB ]] ([[User talk:SilverioFlame|talk]]) 05:19, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

== Trivia undone ==
I am not referring to the anime—in the games and presumably Origins, the "multiple" constant remains. For example, Trevor in X and Y likely owns a Mewtwo (show him a Pokémon that can Mega Evolve, he will comment on how he also owns one) and Latias' Emerald description states that 'they make a small herd'. If you absolutely ''must'' keep the trivia point, modify "as there '''are''' only one of each of the Legendary birds" to "as there '''may be''' only one of each of the Legendary birds"—it is highly probable that the birds are not unique. --[[User:Lmoamemesxd|Lmoamemesxd]] ([[User talk:Lmoamemesxd|talk]]) 02:24, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
:I mean, at the very least, the last part of the trivia should be removed since it's speculation. Bulbapedia tries to pride itself on not allowing speculation, and this trivia point goes against that policy. '''[[User:Slimey01|slimey]][[User talk:Slimey01|01]]''' 03:01, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
::Dex entries tend to spout BS. And other trainers owning Legendaries doesn't mean anything. If you can only catch one in the wild, then that means there's only one. Why other trainers have legendaries is just the case of it just being what it is.--[[User:Force Fire|'''F'''orce]][[User talk:Force Fire|'''F'''ire]] 04:09, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
Just because dex entries tend to spout BS doesn't mean you can conveniently assume that they all do - so-called "BS" dex entries make outlandish claims, like Combusken and its ten kicks per second... Latias travelling in herds is perfectly feasible and not an example of this "BS". Anyway, your point that because there's only one obtainable in the wild to a player there must only be one in existence is undermined by several in-game instances - by your logic, there were only two Snorlax to exist in Generation I. Moreover, stating that trainers having legendary Pokémon is "just a case of being what it is" is vague and doesn't hold much weight. Yes, trainers with these Pokémon are typically within battle facilities and appear randomly in the case of trainers who aren't Frontier Brains... but what about Benga in BW2? Your battle with him, in which he uses a Legendary Pokémon, is acknowledged outside the facility in which it takes place. Therefore the battle happened and his Pokémon team wasn't just "what it was" (i.e. for the purpose of providing the player with the challenge). But the bottom line is that the way the trivia is written suggests that the speculation on the author's part is fact, when there is insufficient evidence and no confirmation for this being the case. Like Slimey01 said, Bulbapedia's policy is to be based on information that has been confirmed. Anyway, have a nice day. --[[User:Da real dat boi|Da real dat boi]] ([[User talk:Da real dat boi|talk]]) 18:19, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

I agree that we should remove the trivia for whatever my opinion's worth (which doesn't seem to be much). [[User:Nutter Butter|Nutter Butter]] ([[User talk:Nutter Butter|talk]]) 18:45, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

Pumpkinking0192 is the real MVP.
'''Battle script'''
"You are challenged by Team Bulba Admin Force Fire!" "Force Fire used Speculate! It's not very effective..." "Pumpkinking0192 used Undo! It's super effective!" "Player defeated Team Bulba Admin Force Fire!"—Okay, I should really stop. --[[User:Lmoamemesxd|Lmoamemesxd]] ([[User talk:Lmoamemesxd|talk]]) 01:42, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

Edward

2016-07-22T01:31:34Z

Lmoamemesxd:

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'''Edward''' (Japanese: '''エドワード''' ''Edward''), also known as '''Ed "The Thinker"''', is the [[Societea]]'s leader and a master thief. He faces the {{player}} in the [[Sky Fortress]] as a boss with {{p|Mewtwo}}, who he controls by using armor that originally belonged to Sabios of the [[Dark Temple]].

He plans to use Sabios's golden armor to achieve immortality and rule the region. He then challenges the player to a battle. After he is defeated, he attempts to destroy Renbow Island with the Fortress' cannon, but he is thwarted because Rand put a disabling device (invented by [[Nema]]) and a bomb on the face of the cannon. [[Purple Eyes]] then teleports in with his {{p|Gardevoir}} and reveals that he stole the pieces of armor from Arley, Kasa, and Hocus. He then equips himself with all the pieces and takes control of Mewtwo He offers Edward a second in command position, but Edward just rambles about how wrong it is that Purple Eyes is in control. Purple Eyes then decides to eliminate Edward, and Mewtwo conjures up a large blast of energy over its head. Rand jumps in front of Edward to take the blow, but it does nothing and the attack appears to vaporize both of them.

Dr. Edward, or Ed, will awaken Mewtwo and set it on the {{player}}. Mewtwo has a variety of attacks like shooting out energy balls and psychic waves. The {{player}} must battle it twice, the second time more powerful. Edward is first met in [[Cocona Village]], as a doctor who travels throughout the [[Oblivia]] region to care for the elderly and sick.

In the ending, the blast fired by Mewtwo was revealed to just be a portal bomb. Mewtwo teleported Rand back with his family, and Edward was teleported to an unknown, far away location and never seen in the game again.

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2016-07-22T00:34:33Z

Lmoamemesxd: Signed

User talk:Lmoamemesxd

2016-07-22T00:34:15Z

Lmoamemesxd: Battle script

Twitch Plays Pokémon/Season 3

2016-07-22T00:02:49Z

Lmoamemesxd: "Theif" -> "Thief"

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{{Incomplete|article|needs=Cleanup; needs large reorganization to correctly split what was AC-exclusive and what is Season-exclusive; may need to defer this to after PBR 2.0 is released; e.g. right now there is a bunch of stuff under Gameplay/input changes that belongs under the AC run. AC ROM changes are also very, very far behind stream discoveries and may also need to be deferred until after the patch is released (within a few days according to subreddit)}}

[[Twitch Plays Pokémon]]'s third season began on February 14, 2016. It is anticipated to be its first 'routine' season, consisting of four runs (after [[Twitch Plays Pokémon/Season 2|the second season]] was extended to five runs).

Each run is the equivalent to a season episode, and can be referred to by number (e.g. S01R03). Timestamps mentioned in this article follow the format of "#d #h #m #s" (day, hour, minute, second).

==System changes==
===Gameplay/input changes===

The run restores the anarchy/democracy "tug-of-war" system from the first original Red run where voting is allowed at any time; the bar now also displays the current percentage of democracy votes. However, like in later runs, vote inputs are displayed under each side of the bar rather than as part of the main input feed. Vote inputs count toward the percentage for 15 minutes before being removed; they may be renewed for another 15 minutes by voting again at any time.

The switching thresholds were originally set equal to the original run, where switching to democracy required an 80% supermajority and switching back to anarchy required a 51% majority (or a 49% minority voting for democracy); about four hours before the main run began, the streamer increased the democracy threshold to 90%. ProjectRevoTPP, one of the developers, has stated that at least one area will require democracy mode to complete. Unlike in previous games, it is now possible to perform simultaneous inputs (for example, "a+b") during democracy mode.

===Interface/Side games===
As the start of a new season, the stream interface has been thoroughly overhauled:
* As with the first anniversary run, the current [[party]] is displayed to the left.
* Below the party display is the chat log, which now scrolls vertically, replacing the previous horizontally scrolling chat bar. Donation messages also appear here.
* At the bottom left is a side game of [[Pokémon Pinball]], replacing the [[slots]] from previous PBR intermissions. As with the slots, tokens are used to start a game and bet on its outcome; the more points that are scored in the game, the more the payout will be (with exact multipliers varying both on the table and over time). The game's inputs are performed automatically once started and are not chat controlled.
* Main game and stream statistics are displayed to the right of the Pinball screen, including the player's [[money]], [[Badge]] count, and [[Pokédex]] completion along with the current UTC time, the stream's view count, and the current run's timestamp and input count.
* At the bottom middle is a horizontally scrolling feed of various information, including subreddit pictures, donation records, an explanation of the Pinball sidegame, the five most recent stream followers, a screenshot and stats from the marioparty247 side stream, a subscription ad, and the stream's current view and follower count.
* At the bottom right is a sidegame of [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Red Rescue Team]], played in "Congress mode" with a single democracy-mode input every 240 seconds. It is also possible for a user to bribe others to vote for a certain button (perhaps as a further satire of "Congress mode") by allocating tokens for that button such that voters who choose it will have a chance to receive those tokens.
* As usual, the current list of inputs as well as the anarchy/democracy bar is displayed to the right.

2 days and 19 hours before the start of the main run, the streamer took down the Season 1-2 PBR interface and hosted the marioparty247 side channel for approximately 1 hour while the new interface was set up. After the new interface was put up, the streamer put on {{smw|Mario Golf (Game Boy Color)|Mario Golf}} for the Game Boy Color to test the emulator and input system, followed by a continuation of the previous intermission's {{ga|Pokémon Trading Card Game}} save file. The Twitch players completed the remainder of the save file about 19 hours before the main run started, after which the streamer put on a fan-translated English patch of [[Pokémon Card GB2: Here Comes Team GR!]]. The stream was switched to Anniversary Crystal's title screen 20 minutes prior to the run starting.

==R01: Pokémon Anniversary Crystal==
In the same manner as how Season 2 began on the one-year anniversary of the original run, Season 3 began on the original run's two-year anniversary, with a modified version of [[Pokémon Crystal]] where all 251 [[Generation II]] Pokémon can and will need to be caught to complete the run. The run started on February 14, 2016 at 21:00 UTC. At approximately 1d 0h 41mc, the new overlay crashed, showing an error screen. The stream had to be stopped for two hours while the developers fixed the issues with the overlay's script<ref>[https://www.reddit.com/live/wc4gc1lcecse/updates/7dba496e-d431-11e5-b122-0e4f9a8e143d Twitch Plays Pokémon Crystal 251 live thread]</ref>. The game later continued at 1d 2h 12m. The players defeated the [[Elite Four]], [[Lance]], and their rival, Azure, at around 12d 4h 25m. The players captured all 251 Pokémon at around 29d 16h 18m. The players defeated the Elite Four, Lance, and their rival, Azure, at around 30d 1h 14m. Twitch completed the final battle of the mod at around 30d 4h 33m, and in the post-game, gave party mainstay Kenya the {{p|Noctowl}} to [[Webster (Johto)|Randy]]'s friend at approximaterly 30d 5h 33m.

New to this run is an input system dubbed "military mode"<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/twitchplayspokemon/comments/45t454/military_mode/</ref>, performed by inputting the commands "move", "switch", "item", or "run" with relevant parameters. These commands will be accepted only during the "Waiting!" screen and are independent of anarchy/democracy mode (the commands can be entered during either mode). However, on occasion, military mode will be put on hold while bugs are fixed.

===ROM changes===
Based on confirmed information so far, the game looks to be more ambitious than the previous anniversary run. The channel's streamer has stated that over $1,000 has gone towards the development of the game<ref>[https://www.reddit.com/r/twitchplayspokemon/comments/3wkdmv/streamer_on_the_budget_for_the_anniversary_hack/ Streamer on the budget for the anniversary hack - Reddit]</ref>, and the development team is known to be larger, including acclaimed creator of the hack {{DL|ROM hacks|History|Pokémon Brown}}, Koolboyman.<ref>[http://tppdevs.com Twitch Plays Pokémon Developers - Official Site]</ref> The game features a sophisticated external AI engine programmed in {{wp|Python (programming language)|Python}} and created by user Beesafree.<ref name="TwitchPlays Genre Announcement">[http://blog.twitch.tv/2016/01/twitchplays-game/ Announcing the "Twitch Plays" Game Category - The Official Twitch Blog]</ref> The AI is known to [[switch out]] tactically (while ordinary in-game AIs will almost never do so) and has been stated as being able to predict up to 5 turns in advance. The AI also applies to [[wild Pokémon]], who will focus on annoying or stalling the player rather than outright winning.


====Aesthetic changes====
* New protagonists replace {{ga|Ethan}} and {{ga|Kris}}.
** The male character resembles {{adv|Red}} as he appears in [[Pokémon Adventures]]'s {{chap|Red, Green & Blue}}.
** The female character, like in Anniversary Red, resembles the [[List of unused Pokémon and character designs#Female main character|scrapped design]] of {{ga|Leaf}} that was supposed to appear in the original games, which became the basis of {{adv|Green}}'s design in [[Pokémon Adventures]].
* The opening sequence and title screen have both been redesigned. For example, the opening sequence {{p|Unown}} now spell out "TWITCH" in place of "CRYSTAL", the top of the title screen now displays "Twitch Plays Pokémon Crystal Anniversary" with Twitch's logo rather than "Pokémon Crystal Version" with {{p|Suicune}}'s emblem, and the title screen now has a scrolling background and silhouettes of the two new protagonists replacing the silhouette of Suicune. The title theme has been custom remixed, and the bottom of the title screen adds "2016 TPP" to the right of "©2001 <sc>[[Game Freak]]</sc> inc.".
* Several songs from other Pokémon games have been imported, such as {{ga|Blue}}'s theme from [[Generation I]] and the original version of the Kanto Trainer Battle theme, used when battling the rival. Other examples include the [[GB Sounds]] version of the [[Poké Mart]] and [[Cinnabar Island]] themes from {{2v2|HeartGold|SoulSilver}}, and a new arrangement of the [[S.S. Anne]]'s theme.

====Plot changes====
* The game begins in [[Kanto]] rather than [[Johto]] and appears to follow Kanto's plotline, but then diverts:

** The player not picked becomes their [[rival]], replacing {{ga|Blue}}. Blue later appears as he did in [[Generation II]].
** After talking to the captain of the [[S.S. Anne]], the boat will leave port with the player in it, on course to [[Olivine City]]. However, [[Team Rocket]] will commandeer the ship, kidnapping the captain, leaving it to the player to stop them. The player, therefore, does not receive {{HM|01|Cut}}.
** During the invasion, the player's badges are stolen. The thief is later revealed to be {{tc|Burglar}} Simon from {{2v2|FireRed|LeafGreen}}, who is a recurring minor antagonist in this storyline.
** The player then fights never-ending waves of {{tc|Team Rocket Grunt}}s. When the player loses, the game will continue with no penalty to the player.
** The S.S. Anne crashes, and the player washes ashore in [[Cherrygrove City]], where they learn they have been "away" for three months. After healing their Pokémon, the player is told by the [[Cherrygrove City#City Tour|Guide Gent]] to see [[Professor Elm]] in [[New Bark Town]]. Upon arriving, the player reunites with their {{ka|mom}}, who moved to Johto. Afterwards, the player meets Elm, who gives them a Johto [[Starter Pokémon]] and asks them to see [[Mr. Pokémon]]. The plot then continues to follow {{v2|Crystal}}'s, including meeting and naming {{ga|Silver}}, who acts as their second rival.
* The player must resolve the [[Lake of Rage]] incident and defeat [[Pryce]] before going to [[Cianwood City]]. Because the player does not have access to {{m|Surf}}, they must cut through [[Mt. Mortar]].
* If the player tries to go to [[Olivine City]] first, their passage to the [[Glitter Lighthouse]] will be blocked by Team Rocket Grunts who appear to be planning to kidnap [[Amphy]] but are being stopped by [[Jasmine's Steelix]]. The roadblock is cleared after defeating Pryce.
* After defeating [[Lance]], the player's first rival is revealed to be the true {{pkmn|Champion}}, increasing the gauntlet of Trainers at [[Indigo Plateau]] to six.<ref>[https://www.reddit.com/live/wc4gc1lcecse/updates/0964d08c-dcc6-11e5-86db-0eed71a31e5d Twitch Plays Pokémon Crystal 251 live thread]</ref> Lance will offer to fully restore the player's party before the final battle.
* Upon returning to Kanto, the region more closely resembles its [[Generation II]] state. For example, the NPC trainers from the Kanto story have been replaced, the {{to|Lavender}} Radio Tower has replaced the [[Pokémon Tower]], and the Nugget Bridge challenge has been moved to {{rt|25|Kanto}}.
* Because they player's badges were stolen on the S.S. Anne, the player must reacquire badges by battling Brock and Misty again.

====Gameplay changes====
* On the nickname screen, the cursor now starts off pointing at a random character instead of "A".
* Before the start of every turn, the screen will display "Waiting!" as it would in a link battle, at which time the game will communicate with the external AI. The script will also accept inputs for "military mode" at this time, if it is enabled.
* Some wild Pokémon locations appear to at least partially match that of Anniversary Red, with for example {{p|Cubone}}, {{p|Pikachu}}, and {{p|Exeggcute}} able to be found on {{rt|1|Kanto}}.
* The [[time]] of day mechanics appear to have been altered and/or sped up, with for example the in-game clock starting at midnight regardless of the player's choice at the start of the game, and transitioning to morning about 1 hour and 40 minutes later. 
* Some modifications have been made to the movepools of certain Pokémon. For example, {{p|Bulbasaur}} can now learn {{m|Mud-Slap}} at Level 15. Not all of these modifications have been discovered or revealed at this time.
* NPC Trainers and Gym Leaders have different Pokémon lineups to reflect the changed flow of the story. {{pkmn2|Wild}} and [[Gift Pokémon]] are encountered at higher levels.
* The player takes a [[Dome and Helix Fossils|Dome or Helix Fossil]] while traveling through a fully restored [[Mt. Moon]], after fighting the {{tc|Super Nerd}}, Miquel. The player can restore their choice at the [[Ruins of Alph]]. The {{p|Omanyte}} the players revived was holding the dummy item [[Teru-sama]]. Upon returning to [[Mt. Moon]] after [[Johto]], a ladder appears on the first floor that takes the player to [[Mt. Moon Square]]. The player can also challenge Miguel again. Upon victory, the player can visit him daily for more fossils.
* At least one more [[In-game trade]] has been added, adding Elyssa from FireRed and LeafGreen's [[Vermilion City]], who, instead of offering a {{p|Farfetch'd}} for a {{p|Spearow}}, will trade the player a {{p|Gastly}} (named Spooks) for a Farfetch'd.
* NPC Trainers can have Pokémon with [[nickname]]s. For example, a {{tc|Gentleman}} on the [[S.S. Anne]] has a {{p|Growlithe}} named Fido.
* Some [[TM]]s have been changed. For example, [[TM47]] contains {{m|Thunder Wave}} instead of {{m|Mud-Slap}}.
* A series of "Status Guard" held items have been succesfully implemented (these existed in original Gold and Silver's code but were never used<ref>[https://tcrf.net/Pok%C3%A9mon_Gold_and_Silver#Unused_Status_Prevention_Items TCRF.net - Pokémon Gold and Silver]</ref>) When held they prevent their respective [[status condition]], but it is not consumed upon use.
* {{jo|Webster|Randy}}'s {{p|Spearow}}, Kenya, is now a Level 30 {{p|Noctowl}}.
* The [[Bug-Catching Contest]] consolation prize is {{pdollar}}1,000 instead of a [[Berry]].<ref>[https://www.reddit.com/live/wc4gc1lcecse/updates/9a115236-d5aa-11e5-9b27-0e67a22c4bf5 Twitch Plays Pokémon Crystal 251 live thread]</ref>
* The fifth floor of the [[Goldenrod Department Store]] has a vendor that sells various [[evolution-inducing held item]]s and [[type-enhancing item]]s.
* Like most Dex hacks, the game changes how trade [[evolution]]s work to make trading unessessary. For example, in {{p|Seadra}}'s case, it merely needs to level up while holding the {{DL|Evolution-inducing held item|Dragon Scale}} to evolve into {{p|Kingdra}}.

* [[Morty]]'s Gym Trainers use {{type|Dark}} Pokémon.
* The player finds {{HM|04|Strength}} at the {{DL|Ecruteak City|Kimono Dance Theater}} instead of {{HM|03|Surf}}, and receives HM03 from [[Lance]] instead of {{HM|06|Whirlpool}}.
* The player can find an {{pkmn|Egg}} in the [[Pokémon Day Care]] yard. For the Twitch players, this egg contained a {{p|Squirtle}}. 
* When [[Bill]] calls to inform the player they've filled out their current [[Pokémon Storage System|Box]], the player has the option to immediately change to the next one.
* There is now an option to empty an entire Box by releasing all its Pokémon.
* An [[Old Amber]] can be found at the Ruins of Alph.
* The trash can switch puzzle in [[Vermilion Gym]] is restored.
* Upon revisiting the [[Sea Cottage]] after Johto, the player finds a locked door in the back, which unlocks after collecting all 16 badges. Behind it is a garden where the player can find all five available [[Eeveelution]]s.
* There is a man in [[Silph Co.]]'s lobby who will sell the player a [[Master Ball]] for {{pdollar}}300,000.
* The closed {{safari|Kanto}} has been changed into an eatery.
* After defeating Bill, the player has the option to challenge a battle program. The program has two options:
** The player can challenge party of the [[Legendary Birds]], {{p|Mewtwo}}, {{p|Ho-Oh}}, and {{p|Lugia}}, all at Level 100.
** The program copies the player's current party, including nicknames, gender, levels, and moves and battles with it.
* The destroyed Cinnabar Island is expanded so that the player can climb the mountain, similar to HeartGold and SoulSilver. The expanded area includes the new dungeon '''Cinnabar Volcano'''. The dungeon is filled with lava, {{m|Strength}} boulders puzzles, and {{type|Fire}} Pokémon. According to the developers, it is one of the largest additions to the game.<ref>[https://www.reddit.com/live/wc4gc1lcecse/updates/3a50ff9a-de97-11e5-af70-0e666a0f049d Twitch Plays Pokémon Crystal 251 live thread]</ref>
* Some Gym leaders have alternate Gym designs during their rematches.
* After defeating AIIIAAB and completing the Pokédex, a cave opens behind him. The cave contains ruins, where at the end, the player fights Professor Elm, the true final boss. Elm uses Level 100 {{p|Donphan}}, {{p|Tyranitar}}, {{p|Houndoom}}, {{p|Corsola}}, {{P|Xatu}}, and the Johto starter weak to the one the player picked.

====Features from later generations====
* The [[Physical move|Physical]]/[[Special move|Special]] split from [[Generation IV]] has been implemented. The category of a move can be seen in-battle when it is highlighted.
* When the player's Pokémon's {{stat|HP}} bar turns red, the alert noise plays for a few seconds before stopping, like in [[Generation VI]].
* From HeartGold and SoulSilver, [[Viridian Forest]] has been restored as its own separate area, after having been removed in the original [[Generation II]] games. The [[Pewter Museum of Science]] and [[Seafoam Island]]s has been restored as well.
* From Generation IV, the background music of an area will pick up where it left off after a battle, rather than restarting.
* The [[Coin Case]] appears to be able to hold up to 50,000 [[Coin]]s, and some version of [[Voltorb Flip]] is known to be playable. If the player wins ten games of Voltorb Flip in a row, they supposedly win a special prize.<ref>[https://www.reddit.com/live/wc4gc1lcecse/updates/d1f9c354-d5c3-11e5-bc51-0e67a22c4bf5 Twitch Plays Pokémon Crystal 251 live thread]</ref>
* The Pokémon status screen has a new page describing where and when the Pokémon was caught, at what level, and gives it a [[characteristic]].
* {{m|Tackle}} has been confirmed to have its base power changed to 50.
* The player's Pokémon will gain [[experience]] after [[catch]]ing a wild Pokémon.
* The [[critical hit]] formula has been updated to its [[Generation VI]] version.
* Several moves from later generations, such as {{m|Seed Bomb}}<ref>[https://www.reddit.com/live/wc4gc1lcecse/updates/af13bbba-d442-11e5-bc5b-0eb54417c64f Twitch Plays Pokémon Crystal 251 live thread]</ref> and {{m|Dazzling Gleam}} have been added.
* The player receives a pair of [[Running Shoes]] from the Guide Gent. They function the same as they do in the other games, but the player's sprite does not have custom running animation.
* [[Generation II]]'s {{OBP|Berries|Generation II}} have been renamed to their modern counterparts.
* {{pkmn|Egg}}s hatch at level 1, with the exception of the {{DL|Pokémon Egg|Odd Egg}}, which still hatches at level 5.
* The {{type|Fairy}} has been implemented, as well as {{m|Fairy Wind}}, {{m|Dazzling Gleam}}{{tt|*|Formatted as DAZZLINGLEAM}}, {{m|Moonblast}}, and {{m|Play Rough}}.
** Because of this, [[Whitney]] uses a mixure of {{t|Normal}} and Fairy types.
** {{m|Charm}} has been changed to a Fairy-type move.
* When using a [[field move]], the sprite of the Pokémon using the move will appear before it is performed, similar to the cut-ins that appears from [[Generation III]] onwards.
* [[TM]]s are no longer consumed upon use.
* The amount of money lost when the player [[black out|whites out]] has been changed to the formula established in {{2v2|FireRed|LeafGreen}}.<ref>[https://www.reddit.com/live/wc4gc1lcecse/updates/80706990-d6c0-11e5-b124-0ed0cfa9bf53 Twitch Plays Pokémon Crystal 251 live thread]</ref>
* [[Viridian Gym]] now uses the spin tile puzzle from HeartGold and SoulSilver, and features similar gym trainers.
* There are two {{p|Snorlax}} that spawn in Kanto should the player fail to catch the [[Vermilion City]] Snorlax. These Snorlax will automatically respawn if beaten or fled from.
* The player receives the {{DL|Legendary artifacts|Silver Wing}} from [[Pryce]] after defeating him in a rematch.
* {{ball|Premier}}s have been added. The player recieves them with every 15 {{ball|Poké}}s they purchase.
* {{m|Sandstorm}} boosts {{type|Rock}}'s {{stat|Special Defense|Sp. Def}}. 


====Features and Elements from TPP lore====
* Like in Anniversary Red, the nickname screen automatically appears without a yes/no prompt after receiving or catching a Pokémon, and the Start button cannot be used to immediately confirm a name.
* In Celadon City, the player will find the ruins of the Battle Tent from Pokémon TPP Version. In the ruins, there is a staircase that leads to the ruins of the [[Rocket Hideout]] from Generation I, complete with [[spin tile]]s, which were added back to the game. At the end of the ruins is Simon, who after being defeated by the player, leaves behind the [[GS Ball]] to make a clean getaway. Afterwards, the player can restore the Battle Tent's generators.
* With the Battle Tent gone, the {{jo|Battle Tower}} takes its place, rewarding players with money proportionate to the amount of trainers defeated instead of [[Vitamin]]s.
* Back at the Battle Tent, the player meets [[Bill]], who came to repair the Battle Tent. He challenges the player to a battle using his Level 100 team consisting of {{p|Eevee}} and all its available Eeveelutions. After being defeated, Bill gives the player {{HM|06|Whirlpool}}.
* Blue uses his champion team from TPP Red.
* After the player defeats Blue, he unlocks the TM depot from TPP Red for the player. Like in TPP Red, it is in the basement floor of the [[Celadon Department Store]].
* After the player collects all 16 badges, they can speak to Professor Oak to trigger Level 100 rematches with all 16 Gym Leaders. However, some leaders won't accept battles until the player completes other tasks.
* After completing all 16 Gym Leader rematches, the player can fight Professor Oak, who uses his team from TPP Red. Completing it unlocks the rematch teams for the [[Elite Four]], [[Lance]], and Azure. The player then gains access to [[Mt. Silver]].
* Like in TPP Red, after the player collects all the game's badges, they can sleep in Red/AIIIAAB's to access a secret dream battle. This time, the player fights BABA, the protagonist of Twitch Plays Pokémon's [[Twitch Plays Pokémon#Sidegames|spinoff playthrough]] of {{DL|ROM hacks|Pokémon Vietnamese Crystal}}. BABA's team consists of {{p|Typhlosion}}, {{p|Suicune}}, {{p|Politoed}}, {{p|Pidgeot}}, [[Red Gyarados|Red]] {{p|Gyarados}}, and {{p|Togetic}}, all at level 100.
* The player can fight AJDNNW, the protagonist of Twitch Plays Pokémon's [[Twitch Plays Pokémon/Season 2#R02: Pokémon Crystal|original playthrough]] of Crystal in the [[Trainer House]], where he replaces {{ga|Cal}}. AJDNNW uses a level 100 variant of his final team from the playthrough.
* Upon attempting to enter Mt. Silver, the player is stopped by the Red of the [[Twitch Plays Pokémon/Season 1#R01: Pokémon Red|original Pokémon Red playthrough]]. Like always, Red uses his endgame team from the game.
* {{ga|Red}} is replaced by AIIIAAB, the character Twitch played as in [[Twitch Plays Pokémon/Season 2#R01: Pokémon Anniversary Red|Pokémon TPP Version]]. His mother moves into the player's old home after their mother moves out. Like Red, the player fights AIIIAB at the top of Mt. Silver, and uses his endgame team from Twitch's playthrough.

===Pokémon===
As with a select few previous runs, gameplay on the stream continued after the run's final objective was completed and the [[credits]] rolled; the information below corresponds to the save file at the time of the credit roll and not afterward.

''For more information regarding Pokémon caught and items obtained, see [[Twitch Plays Pokémon/Pokémon Anniversary Crystal|here]].''

{{Party/Single
|color=F5F5F5
|bordercolor=464646
|headcolor=B190E9
|sprite=TPP Crystal Evan.png
|prize={{PDollar}}92710
|name=Evan
|game=Anniversary Crystal
|location=New Bark Town
|pokemon=6}}
|{{Pokémon/2|game=Crystal|
|ndex=142
|pokemon=Aerodactyl
|nickname=JHH
|gender=male
|level=100
|type1=Rock
|type2=Flying
|held=Surf Mail
|move1=Crunch|move1type=Dark
|move2=Rock Slide|move2type=Rock
|move3=Earthquake|move3type=Ground
|move4=Fly|move4type=Flying
}}
|{{Pokémon/2|game=Crystal|
|ndex=241
|pokemon=Miltank
|nickname=!L
|gender=female
|level=100
|held=Flower Mail
|type1=Normal
|move1=Milk Drink|move1type=Normal
|move2=Return|move2type=Normal
|move3=Toxic|move3type=Poison
|move4=Earthquake|move4type=Ground
}}
|{{Pokémon/2|game=Crystal|
|ndex=230
|pokemon=Kingdra
|nickname=---s×j×KKK
|gender=female
|level=100
|held=Flower Mail
|type1=Water
|type2=Dragon
|move1=Waterfall|move1type=Water
|move2=Surf|move2type=Water
|move3=Ice Beam|move3type=Ice
|move4=Outrage|move4type=Dragon
}}
{{Party/Div|color=F5F5F5}}
|{{Pokémon/2|game=Crystal|
|ndex=003
|pokemon=Venusaur
|nickname=ul:::ut×
|gender=male
|level=100
|held=Flower Mail
|type1=Grass
|type2=Poison
|move1=Growth|move1type=Normal
|move2=Sludge Bomb|move2type=Poison
|move3=Sleep Powder|move3type=Grass
|move4=Petal Dance|move4type=Grass
}}
|{{Pokémon/2|game=Crystal|
|ndex=135
|pokemon=Jolteon
|nickname=FOX,/!!!)u
|gender=male
|level=100[[File:PokérusIC II cured.png|5px|link=Pokérus]]
|held=Flower Mail
|type1=Electric
|move1=Growth|move1type=Normal
|move2=Thunderbolt|move2type=Electric
|move3=Shadow Ball|move3type=Ghost
|move4=Thunder|move4type=Electric
}}
|{{Pokémon/2|game=Crystal|
|ndex=164
|pokemon=Noctowl
|nickname=KENYA
|gender=female
|level=100
|held=Flower Mail
|type1=Normal
|type2=Flying
|move1=Heat Wave|move1type=Fire
|move2=Air Slash|move2type=Flying
|move3=Psychic|move3type=Psychic
|move4=Hyper Beam|move4type=Normal
|
}}
{{Party/Footer}}

==External Links==

* [http://twitchplayspokemon.org/ TwitchPlaysPokemon.org Current Status for Anniversary Crystal]
** [https://www.reddit.com/live/wc4gc1lcecse Live-update thread for Anniversary Crystal]

==References==
<references />

[[Category:Fandom]]
[[Category:Subpages]]

Team Flare Admin (Trainer class)

2016-07-21T23:56:46Z

Lmoamemesxd: "Tacticts" -> "Tactics"

{{TrainerClassInfobox
|color={{fire color light}}
|corecolor={{fire color}}
|bordercolor={{fire color dark}}
|name=Team Flare Admin
|jpname=フレア団のかんぶ
|jptranslit=Furea-dan Kanbu
|jptrans=Team Flare Executive
|image=VSTeam Flare Admin M.png|size=200px
|image2=VSTeam Flare Admin F.png|size2=200px
|caption=Models from {{pkmn|X and Y}}
|intro=[[Generation VI]]
|games={{pkmn|X and Y}}
|gender=Both
|anime=XY106{{!}}''A Meeting of Two Journeys!''
}}

A '''Team Flare Admin''' (Japanese: '''フレア団のかんぶ''' ''Team Flare Executive'') is a type of [[Pokémon Trainer]] introduced in [[Generation VI]]. They are members of [[Team Flare]] higher in rank than {{tc|Team Flare Grunt}}s.

[[Malva]] is implied to be a Team Flare Admin, since she knows classified information that, in her words, only certain Admins know about. {{DL|Lumiose City|Looker Bureau 2|Chalmers}}, a {{tc|Butler}} who is encountered during [[Looker]] Bureau Chapter 4, is a former Team Flare Admin.

==Appearance==
{| style="margin:auto; text-align:center; {{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{fire color dark}}; background: #{{fire color light}};"
|-
|style="{{roundy|20px}} border: 2px solid #{{fire color dark}}; background: #{{fire color}}; width:300px"| [[File:VSTeam Flare Admin M.png|150px]][[File:VSTeam Flare Admin F.png|150px]]
|- style="font-size: 80%;"
| VS models from {{color2|000000|Pokémon X and Y|X and Y}}
|}

==Trainer list==
===Pokémon X and Y===
{{Trainerlist/h|2|x|y}}
{{Trainerlist/e|1|[[Kalos Power Plant|Team Flare Admin]]{{male}}}}
{{Trainerlist/b|1|2880|1|229|Houndoom|36}}
{{Trainerlist/e|1|[[Poké Ball Factory|Team Flare Admin]]{{female}}}}
{{Trainerlist/b|1|3040|2|559|Scraggy|35|229|Houndoom|38}}
{{Trainerlist/e|1|[[Team Flare Secret HQ|Team Flare Admin]]{{male}}}}
{{Trainerlist/b|1|7840|1|454|Toxicroak|50}}
{{Trainerlist/e|1|[[Team Flare Secret HQ|Team Flare Admin]]{{female}}}}
{{Trainerlist/b|1|7840|1|310|Manectric|50}}
{{Trainerlist/e|1|[[Team Flare Secret HQ|Team Flare Admin]]{{male}}}}
{{Trainerlist/b|1|7840|1|229|Houndoom|50}}
{{Trainerlist/e|1|[[Team Flare Secret HQ|Team Flare Admin]]{{female}}}}
{{Trainerlist/b|1|4000|1|317|Swalot|50}}
{{Trainerlist/e|1|[[Team Flare Secret HQ|Team Flare Admin]]{{female}}}}
{{Trainerlist/b|1|3840|2|510|Liepard|47|310|Manectric|48}}
{{Trainerlist/e|1|[[Team Flare Secret HQ|Team Flare Admin]]{{male}}}}
{{Trainerlist/b|1|3840|2|262|Mightyena|47|229|Houndoom|48}}
{{Trainerlist/e|1|[[Team Flare Secret HQ|Team Flare Admin]]{{male}}}}
{{Trainerlist/b|1|4000|1|042|Golbat|50}}
{{Trainerlist/f|y}}

==In the anime==
[[File:Team Flare Admins anime.png|thumb|250px|Team Flare Admins in the anime]]
A pair of Team Flare Admins, one male and one female, made their debut in ''[[XY106|A Meeting of Two Journeys!]]''. They were seen on an island with [[Xerosic]] and some {{tc|Team Flare Grunt}}s, conducting an experiment with a prototype weapon utilizing some {{DL|List of Pokémon with form differences|Zygarde|Zygarde Cells}} and the [[Mega Evolution]] energy previously collected by Team Flare.

The Admins appeared again in ''[[XY111|Unlocking Some Respect!]]'', helping Xerosic with experimenting on {{DL|Recurring wild Pokémon in the anime|Z2}}.
{{-}}

==In the manga==
[[File:Team Flare Admin F Adventures.png|thumb|200px|A female Team Flare Admin in Pokémon Adventures]]
===In the Pokémon Adventures manga===
{{adv|X}} and his friends encountered a female Team Flare Admin at {{rt|5|Kalos}}. Thanks to X's clever tactics and {{adv|Tierno}}'s roller skating skills, the group was able to defeat the Admin.

A Team Flare Admin named {{DL|Lumiose City|Looker Bureau 2|Chalmers}} first appeared in ''[[PAXY12|Fast-Thinking Froakie]]'', where he was seen locking {{kal|Grace}} back into her cell at [[Team Flare Secret HQ]] after her fifth attempt to escape had ended in a failure.

Chalmers was later encountered by [[Diantha]], [[Gurkinn]], and [[Korrina]] while trying to steal {{p|Diancie}}. His {{p|Dragalge}} was overpowered by Diantha's {{me|Gardevoir}}, forcing him to flee.

====Pokémon====
{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Team Flare
|pkmn=Flygon
|type1=Ground
|type2=Dragon
|img=Team Flare Admin Flygon Adventures.png
|epnum=X & Y chapter (Adventures)
|epname=X & Y chapter
|desc={{p|Flygon}} was used by a female Team Flare Admin {{adv|X}} and his friend encountered at {{rt|5|Kalos}}. Although it proved to be a powerful opponent, it was eventually defeated.

Flygon's only known move is {{m|Earth Power}}.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Chalmers
|pkmn=Skrelp
|type1=Poison
|type2=Water
|img=
|epnum=X & Y chapter (Adventures)
|epname=X & Y chapter
|desc=Chalmers has multiple {{p|Skrelp}}, which he used against Gurkinn, poisoning him.

None of Skrelp's moves are known.}}

{{TrainerPoké
|trainer=Chalmers
|pkmn=Dragalge
|type1=Poison
|type2=Dragon
|img=
|epnum=X & Y chapter (Adventures)
|epname=X & Y chapter
|desc={{p|Dragalge}} is one Chalmers's known Pokémon. It was used to battle Diantha's Gardevoir, but was beaten.

Dragalage's only known move is {{m|Sludge Bomb}}.}}

==In other languages==
{{langtable|color={{fire color light}}|bordercolor={{fire color}}
|fr=Manager de la Team Flare
|de=Team Flare Vorstand
|it=Ufficiale Team Flare
|es=Comandante del Team Flare
|ko=플레어단 간부 ''Flare Dan Executive''
}}
{{-}}

{{Team Flare}}
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{{TrainerNav|fire|kalos=yes}} 
{{Project CharacterDex notice|tc}}

[[Category:Members of Team Flare]]

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[[it:Ufficiale Team Flare (classe allenatore)]]
[[ja:フレアだんのかんぶ]]
[[zh:闪焰队干部]]

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2016-07-21T23:52:59Z

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2016-07-21T02:22:25Z

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