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Talk:Food (Mystery Dungeon)

2010-01-25T19:48:37Z

Kiryu: /* Not food items */ new section

I have recently been finding Wonder Gummis in the treasure chamber in Deep Miracle Sea B3F. Should the location be added? Or is it supposed to be ground-only locations? [[User:Sidnoea|Sidnoea]] 17:30, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

== Not food items ==

Technically, Wander Gummis and Gone Pebbles are not food items- they can't be used in the Spinda's Café, for example, and it says "Use" instead of "Eat" or "Ingest". Should they be removed or left to further discussion? [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 19:48, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Food (Mystery Dungeon)

2010-01-25T19:45:06Z

Kiryu: Just a little addition.

{{incomplete}}
'''Food and Gummis''' encompass all the [[Pokémon food|consumable]] [[item]]s in {{g|Mystery Dungeon}} that are not [[Seeds]].

==Food==

===[[File:MDBag Apple Sprite.png]] Apple===
*Japanese: リンゴ ''Apple''
*Price: 25 Poké
*Sell for: 1 Poké
*Where to find: Most Dungeons, Kecleon Shops
*Use: Fills belly by 50, and belly grows by 5 if eaten when full.

===[[File:MDBag Apple Sprite.png]] Big Apple===
*Japanese: おおきなリンゴ ''Big Apple''
*Price: 50 Poké
*Sell for: 25 Poké
*Where to find: [[Rock Path]], Kecleon shops
*Use: Fills belly, and belly grows by 10 if eaten when full.

===[[File:MDBag Apple Sprite.png]] Huge Apple===
*Japanese: とくだいリンゴ ''Extra-Large Apple''
*Price: 100 Poké
*Sell for: 50 Poké
*Where to find: Kecleon Shops
*Use: A food item that completely fills the Pokémon's Belly. It also enlarges Belly by 10.

===[[File:MDBag Golden Apple Sprite.png]] Golden Apple===
*Japanese: おうごんのリンゴ ''Golden Apple''
*Price: N/A
*Sell for: 1 Poké
*Where to Find: Treasure Chests (usually in Golden Chambers)or as rewards for certain treasure-hunting jobs.
*Use: A food item that completely fills the Pokémon's Belly. It also enlarges belly by 50.

===Perfect Apple===
*Perfect apples are special apples in {{g|Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness}} and are not available to the player. They are found in [[Apple Woods]] and the Guild Master, {{mdc|Wigglytuff|2}}, is shown to be very fond of this fruit.

===Banana===
*Price: N/A
*Sell for: 5000 Poké
*Where to find: Hidden in walls
*Use: Fills Belly by 50 and belly increases by 5 if eaten when full.

===Grimy Food===
*Japanese: ベトベタフード ''Sticky Food''
*Price: N/A
*Sell for: 1 Poké
*Where to find: Desert-based areas (PMD2 only), Post-story dungeons, Sludge Traps
*Use: A food item that fills the Pokémon's Belly by 30. However, it will cause status problems. Sludge Traps will turn normal food items into Grimy Food, including Seeds and Gummis.

===Chestnut===
*Price: N/A
*Sell for: 1 Poké
*Where to find: [[Uproar Forest]]
*Use: A food item that somewhat fills the Pokémon's Belly. {{p|Mankey}} love to eat this.

==Gummis==
Gummis (Japanese: '''グミ''' ''Gummy'') are consumable items found in [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon]]. Gummis come in a variety of colors, and have varying effects based on where they are applied. In all instances, eating a Gummi will increase a Pokémon's [[IQ]], allowing it to learn more IQ Skills, with better-tasting gummies increasing the value by a greater amount.

In Pokémon Mystery Dungeon Red and Blue, when a Gummi is eaten inside a friends area, one of the recipient's stats increases. Inside a dungeon, eating a Gummi will fill one's belly. Gummis are found in dungeons and as mission rewards.

In Pokémon Mystery Dungeon Time and Darkness, stat gains occur randomly when they are eaten in dungeons. Gummis also increase belly size by 5 if eaten when full. The player is able to buy Gummis for 800 Poké. Wonder Gummis are never available for purchase, and Gold Gummis are rarely seen in shops.

There are many varieties of Gummi; each individual color is best received by a particular type.

===Black Gummi===
*Japanese: くろいグミ ''Black Gummy''
*Price: N/A
*Sell for: 50 Poké
*Where to find: [[Magma Cavern]], [[Marine Resort]]
*Use: Slightly sates hunger and raises IQ. Dark-types like it the best.

===Blue Gummi===
*Japanese: あおいグミ ''Blue Gummy''
*Price: N/A
*Sell for: 50 Poké
*Where to find: [[Frosty Grotto]], [[Mt. Freeze Peak]], [[Stormy Sea]], [[Silver Trench]]
*Use: Slightly sates hunger and raises IQ. Water-types like it the best.

===Brown Gummi===
*Japanese: ちゃいろグミ ''Brown Gummy''
*Price: N/A
*Sell for: 50 Poké
*Where to find: [[Howling Forest]]
*Use: Slightly sates hunger and raises IQ. Ground-types like it the best.

===Clear Gummi===
*Japanese: とうめいグミ ''Clear Gummy''
*Price: N/A
*Sell for: 50
*Where to find: [[Frosty Grotto]], [[Sky Tower]]
*Use: Slightly sates hunger and raises IQ. Ice-types like it the best.

===Gold Gummi===
*Japanese: きんいろグミ ''Gold Gummy''
*Price: N/A
*Sell for: 50 Poké
*Where to find:Prospecting Missions, [[Marine Resort]], [[Mystery Jungle]]
*Use: Slightly sates hunger and raises IQ. Psychic-types like it the best.

===Grass Gummi===
*Japanese: わかくさグミ ''Green-grass Gummy''
*Price: N/A
*Sell for: 50 Poké
*Where to find: [[Uproar Forest]]
*Use: Slightly sates hunger and raises IQ. Grass-types like it the best.

===Green Gummi===
*Japanese: みどりグミ ''Green Gummy''
*Price: N/A
*Sell for: 50 Poké
*Where to find: [[Uproar Forest]]
*Use: Slightly sates hunger and raises IQ. Bug-types like it the best.

===Grey Gummi===
*Japanese: はいいろグミ ''Gray Gummy''
*Price: N/A
*Sell for: 50 Poké
*Where to find: [[Magma Cavern]], [[Sky Tower]], [[Marine Resort]]
*Use: Slightly sates hunger and raises IQ. Rock-types like it the best.

===Orange Gummi===
*Japanese: だいだいグミ ''Orange Gummy''
*Price: N/A
*Sell for: 50 Poké
*Where to find: [[Mt. Steel]]
*Use: Slightly sates hunger and raises IQ. Fighting-types like it the best.

===Pink Gummi===
*Japanese: ももいろグミ ''Pink Gummy''
*Price: N/A
*Sell for: 50 Poké
*Where to find: [[Sky Tower]]
*Use: Slightly sates hunger and raises IQ. Poison-types like it the best.

===Purple Gummi===
*Japanese: むらさきグミ ''Purple Gummy''
*Price: N/A
*Sell for: 50 Poké
*Where to find: [[Sky Tower]]
*Use: Slightly sates hunger and raises IQ. Ghost-types like it the best.

===Red Gummi===
*Japanese: あかいグミ ''Red Gummy''
*Price: N/A
*Sell for: 50 Poké
*Where to find: [[Mt. Blaze Peak]], [[Magma Cavern]], [[Marine Resort]]
*Use: Slightly sates hunger and raises IQ. Fire-types like it the best.

===Royal Gummi===
*Japanese: こんいろグミ ''Deep-blue Gummy''
*Price: N/A
*Sell for: 50 Poké
*Where to find: [[Crevice Cave]]
*Use: Slightly sates hunger and raises IQ. Dragon-types like it the best.

===Silver Gummi===
*Japanese: ぎんいろグミ ''Silver Gummy''
*Price: N/A
*Sell for: 50 Poké
*Where to find: [[Magma Cavern]]
*Use: Slightly sates hunger and raises IQ. Steel-types like it the best.

===Sky Gummi===
*Japanese: そらいろグミ ''Sky-blue Gummy''
*Price: N/A
*Sell for: 50 Poké
*Where to find: [[Sky Tower]]
*Use: Slightly sates hunger and raises IQ. Flying-types like it the best.

===White Gummi===
*Japanese: しろいグミ ''White Gummy''
*Price: N/A
*Sell for: 50 Poké
*Where to find: [[Mt. Steel]]
*Use: Slightly sates hunger and raises IQ. Normal-types like it the best.

===Yellow Gummi===
*Japanese: きいろグミ ''Yellow Gummy''
*Price: N/A
*Sell for: 50 Poké
*Where to find: [[Mt. Thunder Peak]], [[Howling Forest]]
*Use: Slightly sates hunger and raises IQ. Electric-types like it the best.

===Wonder Gummi===
*Japanese: ふしぎなグミ ''Mysterious Gummy''
*Price: N/A
*Sells for: Impossible to sell
*Where to find: [[Zero Isle South]]
*Use: Slightly sates hunger and raises IQ. All types of Pokémon like it the best.
==Lookalike Items (Explorers of Sky)==
{{main|Lookalike items}}
These lookalike items are consumable, and are only found in Explorers of Sky.
===Gone Pebble===
*Price:
*Sells for:
*Where to find:
*Use: A lookalike item for the Geo Pebble. Causes user to feel grief for a gone friend. It gives the user Endure status.

===Gravelyrock===
*Price:
*Sells for:
*Where to find:
*Use: A lookalike item for the Gravelerock. Raises IQ only if used by {{P|Bonsly}} or {{P|Sudowoodo}}.

===Mix Elixir===
*Price:
*Sells for:
*Where to find:
*Use: A lookalike item for the Max Elixir. Replenishes PP only if used by {{P|Linoone}}.

===Oren Berry===
*Price:N/A
*Sells for: 6 Poké
*Where to find:
*Use: A lookalike item for the Oran Berry. The user takes damage when it eats it.

===Wander Gummi===
*Price:
*Sells for:
*Where to find:
*Use: A lookalike item for the Wonder Gummi. Causes Blinker status when eaten.

{{Mystery Dungeon items}}
[[Category:Food]]

Talk:Azelf (Pokémon)

2009-03-27T00:28:38Z

Kiryu: /* ... */

Under the Type Effectiveness note on {{t|Ground}}, it isn't best to mention Skill Swap. Either list all the possible ways for Agnom's Levitate to be disabled ( {{m|Gravity}}, {{m|Trouble Seed}}, et all) or simply say "if Levitate is lost" or something similar.

: There's a cannon ball hold item that not only makes the Pokémon slow, but also makes Flying/Levitate Pokémon vulnerable to Ground-type moves... - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 03:44, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Fascinating, I hadn't heard about said item. Looks like {{m|Trick}} will be more fun this time around, what with the Poison- and Burn-inducing items as well. --[[User:ANinyMouse|ANinyMouse]] 05:08, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Uhhhhhh ok the main page didn't say that in Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 2 Azelf is referred to as a male 'cuz I have Pokémon Mystery Dungeon Explorers of Darkness and the Pokémon in the game refer to Azelf as male... --[[User:Larvitar|Larvitar]] 13:56, 26 April 2008

Don't Regis learn [[Explosion_(move)|Explosion]] by [[Level|leveling up]]?
[[User:Diby esp|Gabriel Rocha]] 20:52, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
:yup.yupyupyupyup.yup. i'll go correct that.--[[Flash Fire (ability)|freezing]][[Heat Wave (move)|COLD]] ([[user:Cold|page]], [[User talk:Cold|talk]]) 20:55, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

== ... ==

...shouldn't we, like, say something about Azelf being the only elf to successfully defend its Time Gear from Grovyle? '''[[User:Optimatum|Θρtιmαtum]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]] 11:44, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
: Yep, I agree with that.[[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 00:28, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Uxie (Pokémon)

2009-03-27T00:25:22Z

Kiryu: /* Projected Soul? */

How do we know that Uxie is more intelligent than {{p|Alakazam}}? --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 17:36, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Well, Uxie was born smart...and gave humans intelligence...[[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]][[User talk:BlueJirachi|WishMaker]] 17:41, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

:But what canon says that Uxie is ''the most intelligent of all Pokémon?'' Alakazam has an IQ of over 5000! --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 17:42, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

::It is believed that Uxie is the embodiment of ''all'' intelligence. Alakazam's 5000 IQ is small compared to Uxie's infinite IQ. [[User:SharKing|SharKing]] 21:38, 12 September 2008 (UTC)SharKing

:::Aaand... where exactly does it say the Uxie has infinite IQ? --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 21:42, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
::::Uxie created all knowledge in the Pokémon world; If it CREATED all knowledge, wouldn't it make sense for it to know everything as well? Besides: It says Alakazam '''has an IQ of 5000'''; there's a difference between having an IQ of 5000 and being the smartest Pokémon in existence. [[User:Diachronos|Diachronos]] 17:16, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

We'll keep it aimple by saying Uxie created knowledge, it the source of all knowledge. so Alakazam is dumb if we compare it to the soure of knowlege Uxie.--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 17:39, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
:No. Intelligence and wisdom are two very different things. We can say Uxie has a very broad knowledge, that it's the source of it, but in no way that makes it more intelligent. Think of it like academics and professionals: Academics develop the theory, professionals use it effectively. --[[User:Kaoz|Kaoz]] 15:50, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

==Projected Soul?==
ugh, this is a bit ridiculous...can someone explain to me what a "projected soul" is and how it relates to Uxie in anyway? --'''[[User:InuMimi|いぬ]][[User talk:InuMimi|みみ]]''' 05:40, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
:If you've been watching the anime, so far Azelf's and Mesprit's souls have shown up floating around above their lakes. Uxie hasn't appeared as such yet.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 05:56, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
::It doesn't mean that when Uxie is seen in the anime that it won't look like the other 2 did. Plus, why is it being refered to as a soul? --'''[[User:InuMimi|いぬ]][[User talk:InuMimi|みみ]]''' 00:15, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Sigh...we're not saying it will show up as a soul, but the other two sure have. And we know that they're projecting their souls because of Mesprit's Pearl Pokédex entry ("Although it slumbers at the bottom of the lake, its spirit is said to leave its body and flitter on the water surface.").--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 01:14, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
::::Well, what i was saying was how do you know Uxie won't appear as a so-called "projected soul"? it hasn't even had an anime appearence yet. So the statement of it's the only one in its trio to not have been seen as a projected soul is kind of superfluous since it hasn't even had an anime appearence yet. --'''[[User:InuMimi|いぬ]][[User talk:InuMimi|みみ]]''' 03:34, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::The "projected soul" just seems like a similar thing to Latios' and Latias' ability to turn invisible.[[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 00:25, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Glitch (FA)

2009-03-27T00:18:30Z

Kiryu: Spelling correction.

[[Image:Spr_1b_033.png|thumb|right|Glitch Nidorino]]'''Glitch Nidorino''' (sometimes nicknamed '''Glitcherino''') is a {{type2|Poison}} [[Glitch Pokémon]].

It is only obtainable in the [[Generation I|first generation]] {{pkmn|games}}.

It is a glitch block with a {{p|Nidorino}}'s sprite. It appears to be a [[Hybrid glitch Pokémon|hybrid]] of Nidorino. It is well-known due to its appearance in a [[glitch Trainer]]'s team. Its actual name is made of random glitch text, hence the use of "Glitch Nidorino".

The name of the glitch takes up two lines, and the player must hit the A button twice in order to see it in its entirety. This is because the name is made up of more characters than the amount used in regular Pokémon names.

Glitch Nidorino knows {{m|Razor Wind}}, {{m|Horn Attack}}, {{m|Tackle}} and TM42, which is a glitch move that usually misses. When it does hit, its animation is similar to that of {{m|Selfdestruct}} and {{m|Explosion}}. Afterwards, the game freezes.

Glitch Nidorino occupies hex FA 250 (see [http://glitchcity.info/glitchdex/RB:250]). If traded to the Yellow version, it would become a [[ゥゥ♂]].

The only way of obtaining a Glitch Nidorino is via a cheating device.
==Biology==
===Habitat===
[[Image:GlitchHabitat.png|thumb|right|[[Glitch Pokémon]]]]
Glitch Nidorino has no specific habitat because it was never programmed to be in a specific area, nor was it ever programmed for the player to find it. Since it only exists in Generation I, it must exist in the [[Kanto]] region. It has no habitat relating to the [[Mew glitch]]. Theoretically, it could also exist in some [[Glitch City]]-like location.

Despite being a [[Glitch Pokémon]], it may share some habitat characteristics with regular {{p|Nidorino}}.
==Game Data==
===Game locations===
{{AvailabilityGlitch|
type=Poison |
gen=1 |
rbrarity=None |
rbarea=GameShark|
yrarity=None |
yarea=Becomes [[ゥゥ♂]] in [[Pokémon Yellow|Yellow]]|
}}

===Type effectiveness===
{{RBY type effectiveness|
type1=poison|
Normal= 100 |
Fighting=50 |
Flying= 100 |
Poison= 50 |
Ground= 200 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 50 |
Ghost= 100 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 100 |
Water= 100 |
Grass= 50 |
Electric=100 |
Psychic= 200 |
Ice= 100 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 }}

{{glitchstub}}
{{GlitchPkmn}}
[[Category:Glitches]]
[[Category:Glitch Pokémon]]

Talk:Giratina (Pokémon)/Archive 1

2009-02-14T06:19:54Z

Kiryu: /* Dub pronounciation */

== Error? ==

''"Giratina is the second dual-type Pokémon that has weaknesses to both of its own types. The other one is [[Nincada]]."''
"'''''The other one is Nincada'''''" - This is incorrect because Nincada is not weak to [[Bug]] or [[Ground]].
Which Pokemon is actually waek to '''both of its types'''? [[User:Tesh|Tesh]] 18:08, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
:None that I know of. The only types that are weak to themselves are ghost and dragon. I can't think of another combination with the same effect. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|ElectAbuzzzz]] 18:19, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
Maybe somebody did just make an error... I might as well remove it then. [[User:Tesh|Tesh]] 18:37, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
:If anything, I'd've thought it'd be {{p|Shedinja}}. Remember, to be weak to both of your own types means that one of the types could be weak to itself and the other type. The question is... what Pokémon could be weak to both of its own types? It doesn't seem like any of them could be. I mean, technically, {{p|Sableye}} and {{p|Spiritomb}} are weak to both {{t|Dark}} and {{t|Ghost}} on their Ghost-type, but their Dark-type covers both. So yeah, you're right. Until we get another Ghost/Dragon (which I hope is soon), we're not gonna have any Pokémon weak to their type twice. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 05:56, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
:: I'm hoping to see a Psychic/Dark or Psychic/Ghost type Pokémon... think about it... [[User:Tesh|Tesh]] 21:45, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
I know this dosen't fit with previous topics, but i'm worried there might be an error in my game. Is giratina supposed to dissapear if you make it faint?
:... uh, yeah. That's what the legendaries do. If you take them out, you just blew your chance and you'd better not have saved. --[[User:Pie|Pie]] ~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]] 15:53, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

== Devil? ==

How is giratina the devil of poke'mon? It just lives on an opposite side of the world. Plus I don't think the developers are aware of the body part thing. It is also irrelevant to the subject.--[[user:arceus fan|arceus fan]] [[image:ArceusDP.png|35px]] 21:42, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
: I agree. If no one objects, I will take it out now.--[[User:Dual|Dual]] 06:50, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
:: Whoever changed it back, don't do it again. Giratina is NOT the Devil Pokemon. Get over it. --[[User:Dual|Dual]] 17:38, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Actually, Giratina lives in am alternate dimension within the same universe (wierd, right?).--[[User:SorakuFett|SorakuFett]] 22:47, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

== Fourth lake of Sinnoh ==

Can we be so sure that Giratina is really part of the [[Dragon trio]]? It makes sense if you think everything through, but I find it interesting that Giratina is found in a cave near the "fourth lake of Sinnoh". Can it be assumed that Giratina has ''some'' association with the [[Lake trio]], or is that simply too much of a stretch? // [[User talk:Szayel Aporro|'''''SzayelAporroGranz''''']][[Image:Ani282MS.gif]] 23:28, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
:Arceus created Dialga/Palkia ''and'' the lake trio. It's not hard to see the link there. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 23:29, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
also they all have equal base stats just in a different order and the footprints all resemble crowns and it stars in a game along with them and they all rule over different universal planes time, space, and the reverse world but the reverse world could be a reality made by palkia so until they give the official word nobody knows

== H/W eight ==

The Height and Weight of Giratina's two forms are different. Should we place both of the weights and heights in the article (or in List of Articles by Weight or List of Articles by Height)?{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 18:39, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
:I think we should put somthing in like this,
Origin Form Height: Blah
Another Form Height: Blah
Origin Form Weight: Blah
Another Form Weight: Blah
(of course replacing blahs with data)(i don't know how to do it)[[User:Arceausams|Arceausams]] 00:21, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

== Opal trademark ==

I know we've had this conversation already on the Gold/Silver remakes talk page, but does anyone KNOW for certain that Nintendo trademarked the name Pokémon Opal? As far as I know, nobody's had any luck confirming the DuskGold/DawnSilver trademarks, so how do we know this one is for real, too? --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]] 07:17, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
:http://www.pokemonopal.com proves this pretty well. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]][[Image:Ani155MS.gif|Fire echy]]''' 07:24, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
::Definitely hard to argue with that. Thanks. [[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]] 23:54, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Couldn't someone have just bought the domain name and have it redirect to Nintendo?--[[User:Ocean2292|Ocean2292]] 22:14, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

According to serbii, it is Pokémon PLatium, and Grantia is the Verson Mascot, I don't like where this is going, can someone block the pages: GRantinia, SHaymin, Regigiggas, Verson Mascot and anything to do with this Pokémon Platium thing, I don't want false rumors Spreading. I guess I'll put a link: http://serebii.net/index2.shtml --[[User:Quick Man|Quick Man]] 14:24, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

: Platinum? That's a surprise, since that has nohing to do with a Diamond or a Pearl. Then again, Crystal didn't match Gold and silver, so... [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 14:32, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

:: Platinum actually does make some sense, though. Platinum in Japanese can be プラティナム ''puratinamu'', or more commonly, プラチナ ''purachina'' (keep in mind ''chi'' and ''ti'' are essentially interchangeable, at least prounounciation/romanization wise). Now, both words contain ''ratina'', just like ギラティナ ''Giratina''. Pu'''ratina'''mu/Pu'''ratina''', Gi'''ratina'''... Makes sense to me, anyway. Maybe even more than ''girasol''. Either way, though, Platinum is just a rumor for now. The only problem is that http://www.pokemonplatinum.com doesn't ridirect to Nintendo like http://www.pokemonopal.com does, although I'm sure that will change if the rumors are true. We'll see what happens in the next CoroCoro... [[User:Homerowed|Homerowed]] 05:23, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

== !protectnao ==

Okay, with this ''unconfirmed'' Pokémon Platinum b/s being added to the page (Along with random "e"s added to everything), I request protection. <s>Else, I'll have to be adding my own fake stuff such as ''Lisae Franke Forme'' and the like. *runs*</s> [[User:Tina|Tina]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|☆]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 17:03, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
: The "random "e"s" are being added because that's how the Official stuff for the 11th movie names the forms of Giratina; if they use "Origine" and "Forme", ''that's because it's supposed to be like that'' and we're not to question it. Otherwise we would use "Tears for Fears" instead of "Tears For Fears!", for example. - [[User:D-Wheel|D-Wheel]] 17:51, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
http://www.filb.de/content/scans/corocoro/2008-04/2.jpg
See it? '''ORIGINE FORME''', '''ANOTHER FORME'''. - [[User:D-Wheel|D-Wheel]] 17:51, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
:Okay, yeah. This is getting out of hand. Protect. [[User:Tina|Tina]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|☆]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 17:55, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Protected, but the main reason actually WASN'T the excess E's. It was some bull**** unconfirmed report about a tie-in of its name to platnium based on unconfirmed rumors of the third to Diamond and Pearl being a Platnium (the chances of that being true are slim to none). --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 18:03, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
:Darling, they're all possibilities! I bet you weren't there when the name was conceived. - [[User:D-Wheel|D-Wheel]] 18:34, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
::Eh, I just hope they don't keep those stupid E's in English. Otherwise we'll have Deoxys Normale Forme, Attacke Forme, Defence Forme, and Speede Forme. Yes, Defence with a C. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:25, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

:: Don't make me start the "sitting on Defence" jokes. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 12:49, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
:::Oh? You have a problem with English spelling TTE? [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]]
Yeah, we really have to get rid of the extra e's. This is english after all. [[User:Noname|Noname]]
:Respectful disagreement. The [http://www.pokemon.co.jp/special/platinum/02.html Platinum website] uses "forme" as well, although it's reverted to "origin". Surely you've seen places that jokingly spell their names "ye olde shoppe," or something similar. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Talk))]] 21:17, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
::But we don't know if NOA will go for the fake-Medieval feel. Until we get English confirmation, we should follow the precedent of Deoxys and use modern English. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 21:20, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
:::All right, that makes sense. But I think we should definitely at least mention the 'Forme' stuff in the trivia sections of this page and others it's relevant to. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Talk))]] 21:31, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
::::Didn't anyone notice that this magazine used Shaymin's U.S. name in it? Wonder why... --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 07:46, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::I'm trying to understand why people are having such a hard time accepting an official spelling. If the English game gets rid of the "ye olde" then we'll get rid of it then, but by "proper English" rationale we should be calling them "crabby" and "dugong". It's a stylized spelling like any ''Pokémon'' name.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 01:09, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

::::::I'm afraid there doesn't seem to be any solving this civilly or simply through discussion. Therefore, I grudgingly <s>announce</s> propose a poll. That's right, a poll. I'm not going to really get into this aside from offering my opinion, and of course voting, but this seems to be a popular topic for discussion, so this page should see a lot of action in the next few hours/days. I'll add the poll momentarily to the bottom of the page. --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 01:32, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Oh boy. Check Deoxys on the official American Pokedex: http://www.pokemon.com/Pokedex/flash.asp I'm afraid that That solves the question. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 01:36, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

::::::::Good. There we go, folks. Discussion closed. Now, could somebody please protect this? I see no reason to encourage certain users by allowing them to continue ignoring the facts. --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 01:42, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Shoot. That means we have to go around and edit all the {{p|Deoxys}} stuff so it says "forme," too. --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 01:51, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Does Uraptu work for Pokemon.com or something? Unless Deoxys is somehow involved in movie 11, I see no reason why they've done that. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 10:04, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
:My guess is because two common words like "Another" and "Form" are difficult to trademark together. It's why Hasbro released a toy called "Battle Ravage," because it was too hard to get a trademark on just {{wp|Ravage (Transformers)|Ravage}}, since it's such a common word. So "Another Forme," "Sky Forme," and "Defense Forme" are easier to trademark than they would be if they were spelled correctly. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Talk))]] 19:07, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
:: So "Deoxys Normal Form" would be harder to trademark than "Deoxys Normal Forme"? "Deoxys" itself aint exactly a dictionary word.

:: Besides, wouldn't those four ''already'' be trademarked by now? [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 21:16, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
:::Maybe, maybe not. Like I said, it was only a guess. But "Deoxys" almost certainly wouldn't be part of the trademark. The bulbanews article mentioned that "Land form" and "Sky form" (or, as it now almost surely is, "Land Forme" and "Sky Forme") were trademarked without any Pokémon name, which is why we have to guess as to who it is. Origin and Another Formes were similarly free-floating trademarks, without "Giratina" anywhere in the title.
:::ANYWAY, it doesn't matter now. The E is in officially. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Talk))]] 22:06, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
::::Quick thought: Has anybody checked the Japanese site's Pokedex lately? I wonder if the Japnese names for Deoxys's forms have changed as well... [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 00:12, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::Er, there's no English on the Japanese Pokédex.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 00:49, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::I think he was asking about the Japanese names themselves. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Talk))]] 01:42, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::::...oh. He actually says that outright. Ahahaha. They use the obvious katakana spellings of "Normal," "Attack," "Defense," and "Speed," and the same katakana for "form(e)" as Giratina's (フォルム ''forumu'').--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 03:43, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::: So if that's their version, what's everyone else using as "form" (Burmy etc)? [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 10:51, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

::Is there a specific reason why "Forme" was just recently changed to "Form"? I was under the impression that the former was the official spelling. [[User:Marlowe|Marlowe]] 23:53, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

== Name Origin ==

To Cassius335: How the hell did you get Guillotine,Giraffe from Giratina?? Girasol and platina are the only words to make Giratina. [[User:Force Fire|Force Fire]] 11:39, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

THANK YOU FORCE FIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:You know, if it was based on that word, then it should learn the [[Guillotine (move)|move]]...Posted by the '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''11:45 16 May 2008'''''

I think we have a clear verdict here.[[User:Big Johnno|Pokémon Master]] 19:47 16 May 2008
:Hmm, Guillotine, Giratina. G<s>u</s>i'''ra'''<s>llo</s>tin<s>e</s>'''a'''. Posted by the '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''11:50 16 May 2008'''''

:: Hmmmmm. I do see how guillotine is part of the name, But why giraffe? [[User:Force Fire|Force Fire]] 11:59, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
But why would Game Freak go through so much trouble of breaking down Guillotine and adding an 'a' to the end when the mascots of Diamond and Pearl are derived from there respective jewel, so obviously they would do similar with the third mascot hence Girasol and Platinum being in Giratina's name.[[User:Big Johnno|Pokémon Master]] 20:04 16 May 2008
: Yes, we get the idea, I agree, You agree, everyone agrees, Damnit! [[User:Force Fire|Force Fire]] 12:07, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
OK!I'm just making a point so that Cassius335 sees that he or she doesn't have to be perfect and that people get it wrong sometimes.[[User:Big Johnno|Pokémon Master]] 20:09 16 May 2008

Girasol (hence the 'gira' part) + Platina (hence the 'tina' part) = Giratina!
:And do sign off, <s>b@$+@rd</s>...{{u|Tina}} could be also an origin, according to you. Posted by the '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''11:54 16 May 2008'''''

Sorry I forget sometimes.[[User:Big Johnno|Pokémon Master]] 19:56 16 May 2008
:You attacked me personally. Now tell me, who's better at wikicode? TTE! Posted by the '''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''12:11 16 May 2008'''''
:: You two knock it off! That is not the reason Bulbapedia is here for. [[User:Force Fire|Force Fire]] 12:14, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

No Comment.[[User:Big Johnno|Big Johnno]] 20:16 16 May 2008

So it's named after a Jewel and a Metal? I'm leaning more towards '''Gira'''ffe, myself (look at the shape of Another Form).

And frankly "Don't argue with me because I just figured it out" did not inspire confidence. Bulbapedia needs facts, not opinions.

Best to leave the four as was until someone an actually provide a proper source. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 11:39, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

I think this should be Protected due to the edits....... [[User:Force Fire|Force Fire]] 09:46, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Next person to revert will be shot. Stop it, and we'll have a discussion here about it.
Personally I agree with Big Johnno, Giraffe has no place there. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 10:11, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Oh? Where are the Girasols,then? All I'm asking for is something to back-up what otherwise is just Big Johnno's opinion, not a fact. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 21:18, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
:'''Gira'''sol and Pla'''tina''' [[User:Force Fire|Force Fire]] 23:08, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
::OBVIOUSLY GIRATINA'S NAME ORIGIN IS FROM ME AND GIRASOL, BECAUSE I'M AWESOME.
::...I'm sorry. I needed to say something. [[User:Tina|Tina]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|☆]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 23:10, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
::: Did anyone force you to? --[[User:Force Fire|Force Fire]] 23:11, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
::::She meant it as a way of need to acknowledge herself in the discussion•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|P]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|M]][[:Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|102]]''' 23:14, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::Well yeah and my inner troll told me to do so anyway. lol. Besides. It was asking for it. [[User:Tina|Tina]][[Special:Contributions/Tina|☆]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 23:15, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::Dang you must be ugly•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|P]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|M]][[:Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|102]]''' 23:16, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Girasol doesn't seem to fit. It did when we thought DPv3 would be called Opal, but now that it's being called Platinum, I doubt it. Giraffe is just way out of left field. The last time I checked, giraffes didn't have monstrous claws running up and down their necks. Guillotine... maybe, since Giratina seems to be associated with death. But like Optimus35 said, why doesn't it learn the move, then?
:::::::Also: Why hasn't this been protected yet? --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Talk))]] 23:26, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::::: '''Gira'''sol...... --[[User:Force Fire|Force Fire]] 07:05, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::Guillotine also would not fit, unless you are grasping at straws. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 08:29, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::If you're speaking in strict phonetic terms, then no. Although there is the whole R vs. L thing in Japanese... anyway, I'm thinking more along the lines of fitting thematically. Girasol doesn't work, unless they were planning to call it Opal and changed it to Platinum at the last minute to throw off everyone who had figured it out (doubtful if the -tina part really comes from Platina). And Guillotine does fit ''sort of'', but not quite as well as I'd like. Anyway, I do think Big Johnno's ideas for this have more grounding than Cassius's. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Talk))]] 08:57, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::: Big Johnno doesn't ''have'' any grounding. He just gave us his opinion with nothing to back it up. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]]

Ooo girare actually suits Giratina pretty good I mean like theres that saying the dead wander the earth forever or something simliar and Giratina is an undead Pokémon
: Glinn Mgraw said leave it alone--[[User:Force Fire|Force Fire]] 10:53, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
: That means YOU too Big Johnno... [[User:Force Fire|Force Fire]] 10:59, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
:: Yes, but he's saying "leave it alone" ''after'' siding with Big Johnno and eliminating two. I say leave all possibilities in play until we can eliminate them with facts. "Girare" is an interesting one though. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 11:02, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

::Pulling this out of the text wall...

"Giraffe is just way out of left field. The last time I checked, giraffes didn't have monstrous claws running up and down their necks. Guillotine... maybe, since Giratina seems to be associated with death. But like Optimus35 said, why doesn't it learn the move, then?"

:: Giraffe's aren't supposed to have a second face on their tails either, and yet we have Girafarig. As for why Giratina doesn't learn Guillotine... no idea. Maybe the Japanese didn't make the connection. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 11:09, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
:::Maybe it's because Giratina doesn't come from Guillotine? SHOCK HORROR. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 11:29, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
:::: Giratina phonetically is (roughly) Gir-ah-teen-ah. Knock off the second 'ah' and what do you get?

:::: Not saying anything for definite though. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 11:51, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::Mind if I jump in here? No? Tough. Cassius dude, tell me something, because I'm totally confused here - how the ''hell'' does Giratina resemble, or even RELATE to, a freaking guillotine?! Or a giraffe?! It's blatantly obvious to even the dumbest of people that Giratina comes from ''gira''sol and pla''tina''. Go and pick on some other Pokémon. [[User:Double Dash|Cipher]] 13:27, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

::::: Try reading the page once in a while. As has already been pointed out, Girasol doesn't work any more (some people can't accept that the third game is '''not''' Pokémon Opal). Giraffe (I'm guessing) is because Giratina's a four-legged long necked creature (ok, six-legged, but still...). Guillotine as I mentioned ''in the post above yours'' is a phonetic soundalike.

::::: Neither of these are my theories, I'm just trying to stop people from jumping to conclusions without a shred of proof. Which, last I checked, we're not supposed to do. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 16:45, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::Yet you're doing the same thing. These ideas may not be yours, but your constantly re-adding them is the same as what Big Johnno's doing. I suggest we just put down ''all'' the ideas we've had so far and figure this out without an edit war going on. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Talk))]] 21:31, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

::::::: Um... he's taking way, I'm restoring them. That's not quite the same thing.

::::::: And what's currently on the page ''is'' all of the idea's so far. That was kind of the point. [[User:Cassius335|- Cassius335]] 21:46, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Aren't '''all''' name origins of Pokémon speculation and opinion? As far as I know, Nintendo has '''never''' came out and said, "This is where we got the name." And, while most are obvious, some are not. Just look at that section on {{P|Corphish}}. It's highly doubtful that its name comes from an obscure fishing term from the 1600s, but it's still mentioned on the page. I see no harm in keeping all possibilities, no matter how unlikely. [[User:Zurqoxn|Zurqoxn]] 22:24, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
:You must draw a line in the sand at some point. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]] [[User_talk:GlinnMgraw|Mgraw]] 07:37, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
::Did anyone mention girasol or something like that? Because it says girasol along with what you guys said earlier. Oh, and by the way? DEFINITELY NOT GIRAFFE. I'm sorry, it just doesn't make any sense at all. Really, it doesn't. Really. [[User:ZanderX|Zander]] 06:51, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

== Origin Forme Picture ==

Wouldn't it make more sense to have Giratina's origin forme art from Platinum, then the art from the anime?

Deoxys uses all of his Sugimori art on his page, and none of the other Pokémon have their anime art on their pages (besides screenshots).

So why was the other art gotten rid of from the page? [[User:Pokemega32|Pokemega32]] 19:01, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
: There's no point having two pictures of the same thing. --[[User:Force Fire|Force Fire]] 23:16, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
::He was asking why we got rid of the Sugimori art and kept the anime art instead of the other way around, not why we didn't keep both. At any rate, I changed it after seeing his comment, so now we have the Sugimori art alone. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Talk))]] 23:28, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
:::where did we get the shiny origine sprite? '''[[:User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Talk]]-[[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|Contribs]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|Mudkipz]]''' 17:27, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
::::Someone recoloured the normal sprite. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 17:40, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::and so it'll be changed again when the official sprite is released i presume. '''[[:User:Origamiguy|OrigamiGuy]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy|Talk]]-[[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|Contribs]]-[[:User_talk:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|Mudkipz]]''' 17:46, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::If there's any real difference. Origin Forme Giratina has the same colors as Another Forme Giratina, so why would the shiny ones differ? It's the same as Deoxys. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 07:44, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Because the real-deal is always superior in quality to the recolor.--[[User:Xparasite9|Xparasite9]] 03:54, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

== Protection request ==

A lot of people have making changes and undoing changes. I say we protect it for a while. --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 20:43, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
:You freakin want everything protected. But for this article, yea, me too•'''[[User:Pokemaniac102|Poke]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|maniac]]102''' 21:19, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

== Shiny is near-perfect negative? ==

The article says that the shiny sprite is a near-perfect negative of the normal sprite.
I ask you, does the following look like the statement is true? the only thing that matches up are the red (blue) bands and wing-horns.
 
[[{{ns:6}}:Not-reverse-colors.PNG|Shiny Giratina is not a negative]]--[[User:Xparasite9|Xparasite9]] 03:47, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
:I think what was really meant was "nearly opposite in color", regular has gold, shiny has silver, regular has silver, shiny has gold, regular has red, shiny has blue. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:00, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

== Lack of Land/Lowered Level ==

the lowered level seems to make sense because of the fact that he had just entered the dimension, which would theoretically weaken him. the lack of land seems to be either giratina floating in the air, a reflection of the fact that there is no land in the reverse world, or that he is still in the teleportation rift.

[[User:Arutoa|Arutoa]] 21:12, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

== Tutor Moves ==

is there a platinum standard template that could be used for Giratina's tutored move, Draco Meteor?
[[User:Meman140|meman140]] 01:29, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
:Yes. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:32, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
:Done and done. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:01, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. [[User:Meman140|meman140]] 00:44, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

== Art in the infobox ==

I know with Deoxys we do the "standard forme" thing... but we have Wormadam with all three of her coats, same with Burmy, and Shellos and Gastrodon in both West and East Sea variations. I know that's how the Sugimori art came, but why the heck not combine the images into one, then put it in the infobox? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 17:42, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

== Sprites ==

Doesn't Giratina have 3 Platinum sprites? 2 Origin and 1 Another. How will you place that? tc26 23:37, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
:The game isn't even out yet!~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Pokemaniac102]] 23:43, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
::Screenshots!! tc26 23:44, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
:::I know but we're still thinking!~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Pokemaniac102]] 23:45, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
:::And they may be more~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Pokemaniac102]] 23:46, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Well most likely there's only 1 Another and 1 Origin for Platinum, The Platinum Origin is likely a moving image~[[User:Pokemaniac102|Pokemaniac102]] 23:47, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

The new shiny sprite is all wrong. One of its eyes is still red, and the body color wasn't even changed. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 05:08, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
::Sorry about the recloration. I be someone would come along and fix it eventually if I don't have the time to. There is 1 another and 1 origin in platinum but 1 orign and 2 another in DP AND Platinum.--[[User:Taviource|Tavis]][[User talk:Taviource|ource]] 05:47, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
::Oh! and, tc26, could you help buy making a transparent background for Giratina Origine forme? I have no idea how to do it. Thanks and sorry if I troubled you.--[[User:Taviource|Tavis]][[User talk:Taviource|ource]] 05:55, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Yeah, later. i'm doing some things right now. I'll just make a new one since that one has several errors in coloring.tc26 06:18, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
I think that it have to take the three sprites of Platinum, as the sprites of Deoxys in D/P --[[User:Nick.|Nick.]] 19:38, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
::Nevermind about the transparent background. I managed to do that this morning. But we still need to fix the shiny sprite.--[[User:Taviource|Tavis]][[User talk:Taviource|ource]] 21:11, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
::I already fixed it only the eye is a problem--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''Pika''']][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|'''chu!''']] 21:16, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Are you serious? The forehead was silver. Some parts were red! The other eye was red! The shading wasn't exactly right. I uploaded my own now.tc26 11:23, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
http://www.serebii.net/platinum/pokemon/487-a.png
Where would this go in the sprite box? This is his older form in Platinum. [[User:Toastypk|'''''~Toastypk''''']] - [[User_Talk:Toastypk|'''Loom.''']] 18:39, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
::Hey! That's what I asked yesterday! But apparently, they don't have table for both formes yet.--[[User:Taviource|Tavis]][[User talk:Taviource|ource]] 21:03, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

:Let me try to add tables for ''both'' forms--[[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''Pika''']][[User Talk:CoolPikachu!/Archive 1|'''chu!''']] 22:31, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

::Are we sure that's just not a new second frame of animation for the sprite? All D/P sprites have two, but only the static image is used. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 22:55, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
:::I tried adding the tables, but it wouldn't work. You'll have to make a new template for it. Try asking Shinigpikablu for help. He'll know what to do.--[[User:Taviource|Tavis]][[User talk:Taviource|ource]] 23:15, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

== Origin Shiny ==

Isn't that Shiny Origin Forme sprite a fan-colored estimation? Can someone rip and upload the ACTUAL Origin Forme Shiny Sprite, as there will certainly be some colour differences? I see Shiny Rotom Forms are already uploaded, so Shiny Origin Giratina wouldn't be a problem, would it? --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 18:28, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
:The official sprite is there now. [[User:M190049|'''''~m190049''''']] 23:38, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

== Pokédex ==

Well, I got the Platinum Pokédex entry, but I don't know how to read Hiragana:

あぱれものゆえおいだされたがわぶれたせかいといねれるばしょでしずかにもとのせかいをみていた.

So anyone can translate it? '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 04:16, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
::No one is on Bulbapdia at this moment...and the above sentece probably has an error, for it doesn't make any sense.--[[User:Tavisource|☆Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 04:19, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
:::It says something like, "Oh, Paremono Oidasa is just why I am not Bureta seka nereru." And then something about chanigng into origine form when...something...something.--[[User:Tavisource|☆Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 04:26, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
::::No. I'm sure it doesn't have any errors. But anyways... I think it's better to wait till we have an official translation... '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 04:56, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::Okay no thanks Babelfish. And no thanks typos on that Japanese right there. ("あ'''ば'''れものゆえおいだされたがやぶれたせかいとい'''わ'''れるばしょでしずかにもとのせかいをみていた。")
:::::Anyway, here's what I was able to come up with. I'd like someone to check it first because I feel a bit iffy about it, but, uh...who reads Japanese here besides me? Zhen? And waiting for the official translation is wise...anyway, the translation. "'''Because of its violent behavior, it was driven out into the Torn World, from where it silently gazes upon our world.'''"--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 05:01, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
::::::If we're to use the Japanese translations we should make sure we can tell they're just translations and not the official US text when Pt comes out here. Put a <code><nowiki>Ja</nowiki></code> in there. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:35, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::::I heard the translation was "'''Although it is banished for being a tyrannian creature, it quietly watches our world from a place called the Torn World.'''" [[User:M190049|'''''~m190049''''']] 23:32, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
::::::::Just wait until the game comes out. Online Japanese translators are so full of mistakes. Ask the M3 translation. [[User:Midnight Celtic|Midnight]][[User talk:Midnight Celtic|Celtic]] 23:41, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
::::::::It's translating from Japanese text. Obviously wording is going to differ between translations, m190049.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 01:10, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

I used the Google translator and got "OIDASA PAREMONO is why I was NERERU BURETA place in the world and is based in the world peacefully and was expected." --[[user:Baby G|Baby G]] ([[user talk:Baby G|talk to me]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Baby_G|see my edits]]) 21:59, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
:Never trust a Google Translator... At least, when translating more than a single word. [[User:M190049|'''''~m190049''''']][[User talk:M190049|'''''~talk''''']] 20:13, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

== Capture video ==

It comes in from the top in that video... do they ''all'' do that, or just Giratina? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:43, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
:Not only that... the player gets teleported to Turnback Cave after battling Giratina. I wonder what's inside there this time? '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 05:57, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
::A portal back to the Torn World. However only a small area is available. In there is the Platinum Orb, and literally nothing else.[[User:M190049|'''''~m190049''''']] 23:36, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
:::So can you ever go back to the Torn World afterward? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:14, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
::::You can never go back to the giant maze area you went through when you first entered the torn world from the events at the Spear Pillar. However, from Turnback Cave, you can go back to that smaller area, where the Platinum Orb is. After you get that... There is nothing else there. [[User:M190049|'''''~m190049''''']][[User talk:M190049|'''''~talk''''']] 21:53, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::Huh? But the place where the Platinum orb is looks like the area just before battling Giratina, plus an item ball. Is it really just that small area and nothing else? Poo. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' 22:09, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::In that case, imma gonna explore that place fully before exiting!
:::::And think how much a Walk Through Walls code would screw up in the torn world with all those sideways platforms and stuff...'''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|ff8000|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|ff8000|Ori}}{{Colored link|Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|ff8000|gami}}''' 12:03, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

==Behavior==
Shouldn't we add Giratina is apparently very violent in behavior and protective of its home?[[User:Shadow1337|Shadow1337]] 23:24, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
:The Pokédex in Platinum describes Giratina with a word to the effect of "violent" or "tyrannical", so I'd say yes.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 01:26, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Yeah it attacked Dialgia cause of the pollution. [[User:ArceusEX]]

== Animated sprite? ==

Well, I don't remember where, but... Is it ok if we update the sprites? I mean because someone said that Crystal and Emerald have their own set of animated sprites, and PNG animations doesn't look bad: [[Image:MGiratina.png]] '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 04:37, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

== Origin Forme trigger ==

I says Ruined world but wouldn't Platinum orb be better since you almost never get to go to the Ruined world after you catch it.--[[User:MisterE13|MisterE13]] 15:58, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
:What? That doesn't make sense to me... [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 18:33, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
::I'm no expert, but I'm pretty sure that, yes, when you first go to the ruined world, Giratina is in the Origin Forme but, after that, you can only go back to a small portion of said world and find the Pltinum Orb which allows Giratina to go Origin in the normal world to. Currently, the evobox says that the "evolution" trigger is Pokémon world (Another) and Ruined world (Origin) since that's really just during the event, I think it should say Platinum orb or both but am asking for opinions.--[[User:MisterE13|MisterE13]] 04:25, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

== Giratina=Palkia+Dialga ==

You should notice that Giratina is the pokemon of dimensions. Dialga and Plakia are the pokemon of time and space. Dimesions are made up of time and space, so wouldn't that make Giratina have as much power over the universe as Plkia and Dialga combined?--[[User:SorakuFett|SorakuFett]] 22:53, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
:Who said Giratina is the "Pokémon of dimensions"?--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 23:25, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
::[[Legendary_Pokémon#Legendary_dragons]]. I disagree, but it's there. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 23:55, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
:::Your logic is not flawed, but I think its just worded wierd on that page. Not neccesarily dimensions[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((Shut the **** up]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
::::Okay, what I meant was, "who ''officially'' said Giratina is the Pokémon of dimensions?" I'm not going to trust a page ''we'' made on good faith.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 19:58, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::No one will ever say that, because it's ridiculous. Only a 10 year old noob cannot understand that Time and Space are Dimensions. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 14:46, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
Each demension has it's own time and it's own specific characteristics. Even if it was a mirror dimension, they are different: attitudes of beings, the way things work (government, physics, mechanics), and even Nature itself could be different. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 21:27, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

== Hades ==
I noticed something, wouldn't Giratina be similar to the greek god Hades? After all, he is basically the pokemon lord of the dead, guards a world in which no one wants to go, and possibly has something against the other rulers of reality.[[User:Hades666|--[[User:Hades666|Hades666]] ''([[User talk:Hades666|tAlk]])'']] 14:17, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
:Wait, what? Hades doesn't have anything against anybody. Unless you're talking about the Disney movie that enraged the nation of Greece with its monstrous inaccuracy?--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 14:56, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
::Actually Hades was against Zeus, but so were half of the other Gods...[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]] 14:59, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
:::Giratina is the lord of the dead? Really? Source, por favor. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 15:01, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
::::Two things 1.Giratina is ''most likely'' lord of the dead due to being the only ghost type legendary and residing in a cave filled with ghosts or a spiritual dimension 2. Hades hated the other greek gods because while they got Mt. Olympous with its huge palace and lavish furnishings, while Hades had to spend almost all of his time in the dark, dank, underworld.[[User:Hades666|Hades666]] 16:02, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
:::You just aren't convincing me that Giratina's the lord of the dead. So he live in a different world. So what? [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 16:06, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
:::Alright, so I'm not convincing you. Well that's okay, he doesn't have to be, he just has to be similar enough to at least seem based off of Hades.[[User:Hades666|Hades666]] 17:31, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
::::Well, still not convincing. (1) Hades indiscriminately hating all the other gods was something made up for the Disney movie. DCM is closer to correct, but that's because in the myths Zeus is...well, an overbearing asshole. (2) A warped and ''completely empty'' world ≠ world of the dead.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 22:47, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::Comparing Giratina to Hades is an opinion. Opinions are not fact. -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 23:05, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::Oh and comparing him to a basilisk ''isn't''?! Oh and, by the way, although the disney movie ''did'' exagerate Hades's dislike of the other gods, he does dislike them in the actual greek myths, purely because they forced him to stay in the underworld.[[User:Hades666|Hades666]] 02:42, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Yeah, but they all hate each other. Poseiden hates Athena, The Goddess of Earth Hates hades.......i could go on[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
Where is there anything about Giratina hating Palkia, Dialga, and the others? It only attacked Dialga because of the pollution that had entered the other dimension because of the fight between the two Dragons. And in the next movie, Giratina is going to be fighting both of them out of anger, not hate. What would you do if somebody was destroying your world? Sit there? [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 18:12, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::::Well, I tried.[[User:Hades666|Hades666]] 13:46, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
I'm not saying you didn't but we can only put things in that everyone agrees with. Otherwise, some people would put things like "Mew is similar to Kirby because they're both pink", "Snorlax is like *insert celebrity's name here* dog, because they're both fat", stuff like that. Sorry if I came across harder than I meant to. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 20:17, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
::By the way, in response to that "what would I do?" rhetorical question, no, I wouldn't sit there, I would get in between them and tell them "STOP FIGHTING OR I WILL BEAT THE $#!% OUT OF YOU!".[[User:Hades666|Hades666]] 17:19, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Fun. They wouldn't listen to you, and this is for the forums. If you really care enough, take it there, because I'm finished with this. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 19:02, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

== Origin ==

As i knew Giratina has been originate in our {{wp|Bakunawa}}
why did you edit it why --[[User:Bakunawa|Bakunawa]] 07:07, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

== Backbone ==

Giratina,How he appeared in {{g|Platinum}}.His Orgin form is his true form.Because he changed when he enter the Pokémon World.He begane to changed to Altered form.Thats what I think.[[User:DAWN FAN|Dawn's No.1 Fan,]] 17:45, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
:Eh? Origin forme could be his real one, could not be. I dont think thats a confirmation.[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
::My impression of the name "origin forme" meant that it was the 'natural' style, as opposed to the "altered forme." But that's just the English translation, I don't know the spirit of the Japanese... -- '''[[User:evkl|evkl]]''' [[User_talk:evkl|(need to talk?)]] 17:50, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
:::And of course I am assuming that Origin Forme can be used outside of the Distorted world, meaning it can take both formes.[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]] 18:06, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
:::"Spirit" of the Japanese? What do you mean? Just in case you mean the original Japanese names, they're the English words "origin" and "another."--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 05:00, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

== One-of-a-kind ==
According to this page, Giratina is one-of-a-kind, and {{p|Dialga}} and {{p|Palkia}} aren't? Any inconsistencies?[[User:Hades666|Hades666]] 15:40, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
:This just needs fixing, as Dialga and Palkia are too. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 18:59, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
::But there are two dialgas. Normal dialga and the formerly primal dialga.--[[User:Starlight the ampharos|Starlight_the_ampharos]] 02:23, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Primal Dialga is what the Dialga of now would turn out to be if nothing was done about the collapsing Time Tower. They're the same being, just different time frames. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 04:51, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

==It's colors==

In the article,should it be stated that the main colors on the shiny version are Blue(Crystal),Gold and Silver? [[User:Lovely Rose|Lovely Rose]] 02:46, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
:I think I know what you're asking about, but we already decided for the GSDS page not to put anything about that. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 05:03, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

== Reason behind form change ==

I just added that the change in form happens because of a change in gravitational intensity.(look at the Distortion World!)
I got this information from Pokémon.com's official Website for Giratina and the Sky Warrior.

this actually will draw more speculation to the subject, like there might be more giratina formes since as seen in the pokémon world to have alot of dimensions, another speculation might be that girarina might change forme on the moon(I know its stupid and somewhat of speculation). But add thee gravitational intensity piece of information its really important.--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 14:54, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
:Why would Giratina, much less Ash and friends, go to the moon? [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 21:28, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

read the mossdeep space centre, obviously nintendo wanted to launch the players into the final frontier--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 12:50, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
::OR they obviously used the Space Centre for the Japanese games so players could get Jirachi, and then they took it out of the translated games.{{unsigned|Rocket Admin Hunter Blade}}
:::Except they didn't, Hunter Blade. And, uh, Nobody777...please stop speculating. (geez, I thought you were just being hypothetical to give another example of a difference in gravity, but...god.)--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 01:18, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

look at other articles of legendary Pokémon, they all got speculation, some of them are logical and the rest are not so if you're complaining about that go on, dont really care, and that is not speculation its simple logic about gravity differences.--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 10:59, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
:Hmm... first time forgetting to sign. Oh well. And for what you said Urutapu, I've been so out of sync this week. I have no clue why the heck I said that. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 04:41, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
::I'm not shooting down your gravity theory, I'm shooting down your insinuation that the gang would actually go to the moon.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 05:25, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
:::I forget what exactly the closest thing to going to space for them was, but I think the most connection they've had is with Deoxys, Jirachi, and then Proff. Cosmo and his meteorite. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 17:39, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

==Dub pronounciation==
CN pronounced Giratina as Jeer-i-teena so is it that or Gihr-i-teena [[User:Happizelpom|Happi]][[User talk:Happizelpom|zel]][[Special:Contributions/Happizelpom|pom]] 15:24, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
:It depends. There are many differences between the dub and games like the Stadium, Colossum & XD, and Battle Revolution for the pronounciation of names. What is it in PBR? [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 01:52, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
::The second one. The one that starts with a G. --[[User:PsychicRider|'''Psychic''']][[User talk:PsychicRider|'''Rider''']]''''[[Fantina|'''☮''']]'' 01:55, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Well, we have to wait to see what they say in the movie. It'll probably be the first one like the CN announcer says. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 01:59, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
::::In the trailer I think they said "Gee-rah-tee-na" (which is how I say it). That is how they say is in [[Pokémon Battle Revolution|PBR]]. The commercial says it "Jee-rah-tee-nah", though. I guess we have to wait 'till the movie comes out! [[User:Yinyang1195|Yin]][[User talk:Yinyang1195|Yang]] 02:34, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::Actually, I saw the commercial again last night, and they revoiced it using the normal announcer this time. He pronounced it like PBR and in the trailer. [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|R.A. Hunter B.]] 23:47, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::The movie came on American TV today. It's Gi-rah-tee-nah. Not Jee-rah-tee-nah. Although the announcers say it both ways.[[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 06:19, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Charizard (Pokémon)

2009-02-08T23:30:03Z

Kiryu: /* Height */

==Um, o.O==
"The most spectacular behavior of the Charizard occurs during the breeding season. In the wild, a male in control of a territory will send blasts of fire-breath into the sky. This is a signal to females and rivals alike that the resident male is fit, strong, and confident enough to use his fire for a mere display. When a female accepts the male, the two fly high into the sky, lock talons and plummet into a dizzying dive. They break apart only a few meters from the ground, combining the passion of mating with the thrill of freefall. After the female lays her eggs, the two parents take turns guarding them and keeping them warm with their flame."

Is it just me, or does that passage sound suspiciously like a segment from that Animal Planet special about dragons? Anyone know the one I'm talking about? -- [[User:Umbee|Umbee]] 18:23, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

:Lol. It DOES sound like a show about dragons. XD; [[User:TinaTheKirlia|TinaTheKirlia]] [[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♪]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Sandbox|☆]][[Image:Ani281MS.gif]] 18:25, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

So Charizard is a Dragon. [[User:Cerberus|Cerberus]] 09:27, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
:Last time I checked, Charizard was never featured on Animal Planet. -- [[User:Umbee|Umbee]] 12:26, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
::Yeah, I honestly think it should be removed then. This is an encyclopedia for serious Pokémon fans, right? So we should only keep truth. I honestly think that info that can't be reached on the official Pokémon cards, the anime, the movies, or the games should be removed, unless sourced. Hmm, come to think of it, is it a good idea to make a template similar to ''[citation needed]'' tag on Wikipedia? [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 21:09, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
:::I was going to make one myself if nobody else did. XD -- [[User:Umbee|Umbee]] 21:56, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
::::Nevermind, I realized we already have one. <nowiki>{{fact}}</nowiki> is there. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 13:08, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

|; I saw a show on Dragon's once, and i'll pretty sure it said exactly that. It was called "The Last Dragon" [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 15:57, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Actually, that sounds exactly like what this one kind of seabird does. Excluding the firebreath, of course.--[[User:Shard1697|Shard1697]] 22:33, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
:Bald Eagles do everything listed with the exception of, um...breathing fire. And I'm pretty sure all this stuff was pulled from that Discovery Channel dragon special anyway.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 22:47, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

But pokémon don't lay eggs, do they?Glitchym1[[User:Glitchym1|Mglitch]] 19:37, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

== Jersey Devil ==

Really??? The page on Wikipedia shows the Jersey Devil looking like a skinny horse with bat-like wings. Charizard doesn't really reflect this... ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 02:42, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

WHAT????Glitchym1[[User:Glitchym1|Mglitch]] 19:39, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

== Height ==

Has anyone else noticed that the height of Charizard is set at 5 foot 7, yet in the anime, Ash is quite a bit shorter? Im starting to think Ash is about 3 feet tall... [[User:JordanPrill|JordanPrill]] 16:38, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
:There are always going to be inconsistencies between heights of Pokémon in the games and the anime. If its really minor, just try to ignore it.--[[User:HAH08|HAH08]] 16:59, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
::If I remember right, the girl that watches the Charizard Valley making a comment about Ash's Charizard just being smaller than the rest.[[user:Xanhawk|Xanhawk]] 22:17 Dec. 21, 2008
:::If ''I'' remember right, Dratini are about 6 feet long in the games, and yet Clair's Dratini was small enough that she could hold it.

== Wonderin' ==

I'm thinking of writing that Charizard is a very known trademark....... I mean, come on, right? You guys would know that it IS a very known Pokémon trademark. So, well, I wrote it on the top part, where it says it's cover appearances........... and it got erased......... Do you guys think it should be written in trivia? I'm just WONDERIN'............. I think I should get you guys' appinions' on this........[[Image:Ani006MS.gif|32px]] [[User:Dragonbeastx|Dragonbeastx]] 03:51, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
:Well, I don't see the point of pointing it out... Articles are written for info on a determined Pokémon species, not its trademarks and stuff like that. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 04:22, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Okay...[[Image:Ani006MS.png‎|32px]]Still Charizard.......He, he.......[[User:Dragonbeastx|Dragonbeastx]] 17:12, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Lucario (M08)

2009-02-02T01:59:53Z

Kiryu: /* Deceased */ new section

== Name ==

I'm surprised that this hasn't been named '''Sir Aaron's Lucario''', seeing as it is his Pokémon. But is ownership lost after the trainer dies? But now they're both dead, isn't Lucario Sir Aaron's Pokémon once more? Like in the ending where they eat chocolate? [[User:Tesh|'''TESHIGIGAS''']] [[Image:Ani486MS.gif|{{{2|486}}}]] 16:30, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
:I'm guessing the reason it was named Lucario (anime) is because although it belonged to Sir Aaron, it wasn't really shown under his ownership except for in flashbacks. Also, Bulbapedia as a rule that we don't name Pokémon articles after characters of the day. Now, while Sir Aaron isn't technically a character of the day, perhaps it was the same sort of reasoning in naming the article the way it was named. That, and the fact that it's consistent with the other major Pokémon characters in movies (ie, {{an|Jirachi}}, {{an|Manaphy}}, {{an|Mewtwo}}, {{an|Latios}}, {{an|Latias}}). Personally, I think it's fine the way it is. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] [[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]] 17:20, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
::I just got curious, but now I know follows a pattern. Thanks anyway. [[User:Tesh|'''TESHIGIGAS''']] [[Image:Ani486MS.gif|{{{2|486}}}]] 17:22, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Lucario is notable enough for an article - that isn't an issue and doesn't affect the naming. The name is such because Lucario was an apprentice of Aaron rather than actually owned by him. (If Ash hypothetically trained under Riley, he wouldn't become Riley's Ash.) --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 17:35, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
::::That would be funny to see XD. [[User:Tesh|'''TESHIGIGAS''']] [[Image:Ani486MS.gif|{{{2|486}}}]] 17:36, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

==SPOILERS==

Someone should really put spoiler tags here. [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]) 19:18, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

== Deceased ==

WE DON'T KNOW THAT LUCARIO DIED. If that was the case, then why would we see Lucario and Aaron in the end credits? Not a vision of the past, for they were eating chocolate. Not Heaven, because Pokémon doesn't bring that sort of thing into play. When you die, you don't become a bunch of light and just vanish. I say it's more like suspended animation. [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 01:59, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Mew (M08)

2009-02-02T01:54:24Z

Kiryu:

éWhat idiot moved this page?! --[[Image:Spr 3e 115.gif]][[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy512]][[Image:Spr 3e 202.gif]][[Image:Spr 3e 327.gif]] 19:57, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

:Pokémon Lover King Mario did. Apparently, he's been known to make page moves that consensus agrees should not be made, and this isn't the first time he's done such.

:He did that before with [[Pokémon Trainer]] after a trainer was announced as a [[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]] character, then turned the redirect to a disambig. Problems ensued when trying to restore the page when the consensus agreed to not have the disambig; sysops eventually stepped in and set everything right. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 01:19, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Ummm... What's the proof this is a different Mew then the one in Mewtwo Strikes Back? [[User:Noname|Noname]]
:Different voice. And yes, this is not because the MSB Mew's VA was unavailable. He voiced [[Sir Aaron]]! '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 18:31, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Um, what does that matter? [[Ash]] sounds different nowadays, but does this mean he's a different person? No. [[User:Noname|Noname]]

Mew and Mewtwo were together at the end of Mewtwo Strikes Back, so it's unlikely that the same Mew would appear in this movie without Mewtwo. [[User:Diachronos|Diachronos]] 16:59, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

That's true. But, at the end of the first movie, Mew is seen flying back to mountainous island. The tree in the 8th movie was a mountain, wasn't it? How do we know if the island that the Mew from the 1st movie went back to isn't the island that the Mew in the 8th movie was seen at? --'''[[User:InuMimi|いぬ]][[User talk:InuMimi|みみ]]''' 21:28, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

I would argue that it's a prevelant theme in Pokémon (althoigh it's sketchy in the anime) that the Über Legendaries such as Mew, Celebi, and Jirachi are one of a kind. With Pokémon like Entei, however, it is implied that there are multiple. [[User:LordArceus|LordArceus]]

I agree with you. I know this is weird but when i think of ūber pokemon like mew and celebi, i think of them being a single pokemon of that species. one mew, one celebi, one jirachi, one shaymin, and of course, one arceus. but for some reason, i think of the mew from the 2 movies being different mew. but i also have this idea in the back of my mind about the mountain island the 1st movie went back to at the end of the movie is the same mountain island as the tree of origin is located on.
I normally refer to a legendaries like articuno as 1 pokemon despite the fact that i know there is more than one like i call articuno a "he" as in there is only one and it's a he even though i know there are at least 2 articuno around the pokémon world. --'''[[User:InuMimi|いぬ]][[User talk:InuMimi|みみ]]''' 20:48, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

:@ LordArceus- How is it implied that there are more than one Entei? The Entei in Spell of the Unown was clearly fake, and illusion, and in any case, the anime says that Ho-oh created the legendary beasts from three nameless Pokémon that died in the Burnt Tower. Which implies that there is ''only'' one. [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 01:54, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

== Gender ==

I don't think Mew's gender should be "none" since it's unknown if genderless Pokemon apply in the anime, and therefore, not 100% confirmed. In fact i think it's very unlikely that it's genderless since there was a female (mother) Lugia in the series, so it should be "Unknown" ([[User:GT4GTR|GT4GTR]] 11:17, 16 June 2008 (UTC))

I know it doesn't count as fact, but all signs point to Mew being female if anything. [[User:LordArceus|LordArceus]]

== Mew from Mewtwo Strikes Back ==

How do we know that this Mew isn't the same Mew from the first movie? --[[User:Kid Sonic|Kid Sonic]] 05:44, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

:Why would it be? And these completely sifferent movies that take place in differnent places.--[[wp:Halloween|'''☆''']][[User:CoolPikachu!|'''Cool''']][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|'''ピカチュウ!''']] 05:48, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Final Maze

2009-02-02T01:27:23Z

Kiryu:

{{DungeonPrevNext|Zero Isle West|Beach Cave}}
{{Mystery Dungeon location
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'''Final Maze''' (Japanese: '''さいごのま''' ''Final Chamber'') is a dungeon in [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 2]]. It has 48 floors and no relay point. It can only be entered through the [[Marowak Dojo]] and items may not be taken into it.

Unlike the other mazes, when one faints, he or she teleports out and loses some items. After the [[Marine Resort]]'s location is revealed, the player will encounter {{p|Jirachi}}, {{p|Suicune}} and {{p|Moltres}} at B23F, B29F and B40F respectively.

After clearing the maze, Marowak will give the player a Brown Bow held item.

==Obtainable Pokémon==
*{{p|Machop}}
*{{p|Magnemite}}
*{{p|Doduo}}
*{{p|Omanyte}}
*{{p|Kabuto}}
*{{p|Spinarak}}
*{{p|Mareep}}
*{{p|Misdreavus}}
*{{p|Swinub}}
*{{p|Houndour}}
*{{p|Phanpy}}
*{{p|Magby}}
*{{p|Poochyena}}
*{{p|Shroomish}}
*{{p|Mawile}}
*{{p|Meditite}}
*{{p|Bagon}}
*{{p|Staravia}}
*{{p|Skorupi}}
*{{p|Carnivine}}
*{{p|Jirachi}}
*{{p|Suicune}}
*{{p|Moltres}}

{{gamestub}}
[[Category:Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 2 locations]]

Talk:Mystery Jungle (Explorers of Time, Darkness, and Sky)

2009-02-02T01:22:50Z

Kiryu: New page: It should be noted that this is the only area you can recruit Treecko and Grovyle without the Explorer Maze and having Treecko as your starter or partner. ~~~~

It should be noted that this is the only area you can recruit Treecko and Grovyle without the Explorer Maze and having Treecko as your starter or partner. [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 01:22, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Distortion World

2009-02-02T01:14:07Z

Kiryu: /* Walk through walls cheat may screw up... */ new section

For the animated picture of the torn world above Mt. Coronet, where is that from? It says skip in the corner, so I'm guessing a website?--[[User:HoennMaster|--HoennMaster]] 04:19, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
:What are you talking about? The picture's neither animated nor says "skip" anywhere.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 05:26, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

This one here, which is on the article page.

[[Image:Montecorona13jun08.gif]]

--[[User:HoennMaster|--HoennMaster]] 06:50, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
:Yeah... there's nothing there. That image isn't animated, and there's no text in any corner, at least not large enough to be seen. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 07:15, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Animated...drawn...art...I don't care what it is called. On the [[Sinnoh]] page this picture has the word skipped in it.

--[[User:HoennMaster|--HoennMaster]] 09:05, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
:...well, then, maybe you should've brought it up on ''that'' page or at least said this in the first place. And yes, it's from the website.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 15:36, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
::Probably some kind of opening sequence one can skip. And... animated and drawn are two very, ''very'' different things. Animated indicates that there's at least some motion. That image is quite static. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 17:08, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

== Reverse World?==
Is the Torn World in Pokemon Platinum the same place as the [[Reverse World]] in the Movie or is that a completely different place?
They were both depicted as Giratina's Domain, so are they?
:No. We have no official proof that they are one and the same as the only way to access the Reverse World is to go to Spear PIllar and the Torn World can be accessed everywhere. That, and we still don't have proof so don't jump to conclusions. '''[[User:Optimatum|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''12:50 21 Aug 2008'''''

:According to [[Giratina and the Sky Warrior]] (00:23:17), [[Mugen]] said that Reverse World simply speaking is Distortion World.--[[User:Swampert|Swampert]] 12:40, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

==Locations?==
If a Giratina from Platinum (or any Pokemon obtained in any new location) is traded to an English Diamond and Pearl, where will it say it came from in the memo? Unlike earlier generations, where it was only in English, in which they took the name of the location that it said on the memo in the game it came from (thus if it was hacked, then it could say anything) this generation allows trading across the world, and just says the English equivalent. As Nintendo of America was not working on Platinum during the production of Diamond and Pearl (or maybe Japan didn't even THINK of Platinum back then, so even in Japan, unless they worked it the way they did in Gen. 3, or rewire it like they did for the Berry glitch fix, this problem would crop up), there will BE NO equivalent, (besides, if there were, then hackers would have discovered it like they did with the Johto thing: see [[Pokémon Gold and Silver remakes]]) so unless Nintendo rewires the games like they did for the Berry glitch fix, there's no telling what could happen! [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] 16:01, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
:If they rewire the games, people will be suspicious, unless they do it in Japan for the reason explained in one of the earlier parentheses. OR MAYBE Nintendo of America planned this and made an extra in Shadows of Almia (which notably isn't coming out in America until AFTER Platinum comes out) to fix it like they did in FR/LG for the Berry glitch, but what if someone gets one of those Giratina in a trade on the GTS before that? [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] 16:07, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
::Well, only one way to find out. Porygon-Z, I choose you! Trade me your Origin Forme Giratina as soon as you get it, for my Another Forme Giratina! Then... Origin Forme-ize mine to see if it works and then we'll trade back. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:55, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
:::I used an Action Replay code that I found on a cheat website to get a shiny Spiritomb, and it says that it was caught in Space World. I used to figure that that could be an indication that Nintendo planned another Spaceworld event sometime in the near future, but now I'm starting to think that it may be the English name for the Torn World. Probably not, since that would mean people knew about Platinum long before it was announced, but who knows? I'll try to get a picture of it sometime soon. -- [[User:Umbee|Umbee]] 22:18, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
:::Here: [http://s40.photobucket.com/albums/e208/sophia__star/Pokemon%20Screenshots/Summary%20Screens/?action=view&current=DSCN2440.jpg] -- [[User:Umbee|Umbee]] 22:12, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
::::Just recieved a Platinum Giratina from the GTS. In D/P, the location is shown as 'Faraway place'. -- [[User:Umbee|Umbee]] 16:08, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::Odd. Which brings me to wonder: what does the Sudowoodo from the Battle Frontier or a Smeargle from Artisan Cave say in RS? Obviously something caught on Route 101 says Route 101 like they do between RS games. But would it say Battle ''Tower''? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:42, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
::::::No. It would say Artisan Cave. In Gen. III, the location names are copied with trades, like I said. So if a Pokemon was hacked to come from, say, "Lala Land," then when it is traded it will say, "Lala Land."
:::::::What are you talking about? If a Pokemon from, say, FR/LG is traded to R/S, the location shows up as 'Met in a trade' because R/S doesn't recognize Kanto location data. For example, the Lugia in this picture, which was traded from XD to LeafGreen: [http://s40.photobucket.com/albums/e208/sophia__star/Pokemon%20Screenshots/Summary%20Screens/?action=view&current=DSCN2141.jpg] LeafGreen doesn't recognize Citadark Isle as a valid location, so it uses a location that it knows. The same appears to be true for Gen IV. -- [[User:Umbee|Umbee]] 14:53, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

==Name?==
The issue of Nintendo Official Magazine dated October, calls this the "Ruined World". Should we change this? [[User:Gywall|'''Gywall''']]([[User_talk:Gywall|Talk]]) 09:54, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
:"Ruined" is just as accurate, so yes, probably...--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 23:24, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
::What region is that magazine released in? Either way, this sounds as official as "Mikli Cup". --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 15:32, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
:::The United Kingdom. (Uh...Mikli Cup...?)--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 01:00, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
::::Australian magazine pretty much gave away every DP episode up to 100. However they called the Wallace (''Mikuri'') Cup the "Mikli" cup. Likely a poor transliteration of Mikuri by those who have no fricking idea who any of Pokémon's characters are, but still. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:35, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

== Magnetic Zones ==
Someone with Platinum should confirm if Mt. Coronet extends to the Ruined World - by battling and beating Giratina in the Ruined World (albeit not saving of course) with a Nosepass or Magneton which needs at least the Giratina-amount of Exp. to level up. I'm mentioning this on the Spear Pillar talk page as well. [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 03:03, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
:Rare Candy works just as well... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:23, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
::Doesn't the entrance to Ruined World lay in [[Turnback Cave]]?--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 04:25, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
:::TTEchidna, didn't think of that. But to Tavisourse, Turnback Cave lets you return to the Ruined World - albeit a new part of it with the Platinum Orb. Giratina's area of the Ruined World is reached from the Spear Pillar. [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 04:38, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
::::On second thought, because it's also reachable from Turnback Cave, it's probably not an extension of the Magnetic Zone. However, the game could have two different Ruined World areas programed, since it's a different part of the Ruined World when you go to it by Turnback Cave entrance. [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 05:02, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::Anyone wanna test it? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:09, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

== Different name? ==

I found this image recently...
It claims the name of the area is really called "the Torn Dungeon"
[http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s181/cds39/skann0002-8.jpg]
... [[User:M190049|'''''~m190049''''']][[User talk:M190049|'''''~talk''''']] 04:23, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
:Hmm... This may prove difficult. Any release dates mentioned yet? March? Please? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 08:08, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
::Has anywhere in a Pokémon game been called a "dungeon" properly. I know Cerulean Cave was often called the Uknown Dungeon prior to FireRed and Leaf Green.. So far, we've seen two different possible English names. Ruined World, as I stated above.. now this. In honest, I'd wait until the game sees an English release before moving it again.
::As another note to above. Isn't a dungeon a cold stone place? There is blatantly a sky visible when going through that piece of crazy. [[User:Gywall|'''Gywall''']]([[User_talk:Gywall|Talk]]) 10:53, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

== Distortion World ==

Someone with the power to, please move this from Ruined World to Distortion World. That's the official English title. Where did this Ruined World business come from anyhow? Seems Nintendo can change its mind at anytime. [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 15:55, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

:Circuit City is not a suitable source for the name. Until another source, one which is more reliable, uses the name Distortion World, the article stays where it is. That's why it was protected. [[User:Cipher|'''''Cipher''''']] [[User talk:Cipher|'''''(Talk)''''']] 15:57, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

::I agree. Where did this Ruined World business come from? [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]]) 20:42, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

:::Exactly.Who says that the place is ruined?It's just a change gravity and the laws of Physics.[[User:Uxie legend|Uxie Legend]] 10:59, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
::::"Ruined World" came from a Nintendo magazine from back before the official press releases. And ask the Japanese why it's ruined, they made up the name.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 00:00, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

== Why you can walk on walls... ==

Well, Dialga controls the one temporal dimension of this universe, and Palkia controls the three spacial ones... what if Giratina controlled the fourth spacial dimension, and the fact that Lucas/Dawn goes around walking on walls is only an illusion because we can't see/render four-dimensional objects, only a three-dimensional projection of them. A {{wp|tesseract}}'s an object whose sides are all cubes, like a cube's sides are all squares and a square's are all lines. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:35, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
:Bit of an abstract concept don't you think? Little bit more likely that physics there just operate on a different level, such as gravity being directional. In that case, Giratina would ''distort'' reality, which fits in more with it's background info, as well as the potential name from Circuit City. Besides that, there really not a whole lot of evidence for Giratina controling a fifth dimension. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 02:23, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
::It makes sense to me. And Giratina controlling a fourth spatial dimension makes more sense than most other theories I've heard, given how Palkia gets the other three and Dialga the temporal dimension. --[[User:Martonimos|Marton]][[wp:Chanukah|I'm Jewish]][[User talk:Martonimos|imos]] 13:20, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

== Ruined World? ==
Yeah, I read that this name was in a Nintendo Magazine. But now we have at least three English names for this place (Ruined World, Torn Dungeon and Distortion World). I think we should move the page to the official name we have yet ''Torn World''. I am doubting of this ''Ruined World'', until a very official page or magazine confirms the name. I don't think that we should trust on a magazine ''before'' an official listing. --[[User:Nick.|Nick.]], <sc>[[User talk:Nick.|something to say?]]</sc> 00:09, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
:Distortion World comes from the circuit city page, which was states as unreliable above. Torn World/Dungeon comes from a translation of the Japanese name. Ruined World was used in the official Nintendo magazine in the UK. As a result, Ruined World is the most reliable translation from a Nintendo source so far. The name will likely change with the US Platinum release, which won't take long to gather if Japanese save files {{tt|are compatible|Very likely they are}} with the US version. [[User:Gywall|'''Gywall''']]([[User_talk:Gywall|Talk]]) 22:10, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

== Dear Sysop... ==
(the section for edits you --[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 17:09, 18 December 2008 (UTC)want the sysops that can edit to make)

Dear Sysop, I would like you to note on the page that while the entrances to this dimension are in Sinnoh, it is actually not part of Sinnoh at all, rather that the areas that the player visits are parallel with Sinnoh. [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]]) 16:23, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

==Cynthia?==
The artwork shows cynthia? Does she come to the runined world with you?- ''unsigned comment from [[User:David aipom|David aipom]] ([[User talk:David aipom|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/David aipom|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''
:Cynthia enters with the player. In fact, the player meets her at Spear Pillar before entering. [[User:Gywall|'''Gywall''']]([[User_talk:Gywall|Talk]]) 22:18, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

== [[Distortion World]] ==

According to [http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Nintendo_announces_English-language_Pok%C3%A9mon_Platinum this page], it's going to be called the Distortion World. Could an admin move it please since it's protected? ←{'''[[User:Berrymaster|Berrymaster]]|[[User_talk:Berrymaster|Talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Berrymaster|Contrib]]'''}→ 20:38, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

== Mt. Coronet ==

I guess it's a silly question, but is the Distortion World considered part of Mt. Coronet by the game? That is, do Magneton and Nosepass evolve if leveled up within? On that note, both sides of the Distortion world would have to be checked: the one you enter while chasing Cyrus, and the one you enter after becoming Champion. --[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 17:09, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

== Edit request ==

I'm requesting an edit. Please put the images other than the infobox one into a gallery. Having them spread around the page shoves the text too much in some places. [[Santa Claus|♥]][[User:Chocolate|Chocolate]] ([[wp:Christmas|Merry Christmas!]]) 01:50 12/20/2008

I also request that all the "Another Formes" on this page be changed to Altered Forme, because that is the official name. [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] ([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]]) 19:54, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

== Walk through walls cheat may screw up... ==

I just realized that someone using the WTW cheat on an AR or Gameshark would have a hell of a time here. What d'you suppose would happen? [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 01:14, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Hall of Origin

2009-02-02T01:05:52Z

Kiryu: /* Hold up! */

So if you beat Arceus here, with a Magneton gaining experience and therefore a level from that, it'd evolve, too. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 19:21, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

== Hold up! ==

...if this is a separate area accessed by teleport from Spear Pillar (as indicated by the screen whiteout during the event), that should mean it can be accessed with the surf glitch. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]][[Image:Ani155MS.gif|Fire echy]]''' 23:12, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
:I think the point is you ''can'' access it, but you can't leave without the stairs.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 23:23, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
::What if you use Escape Rope? |: Would you be able to get out with that...? [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 16:31, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
::Probably I guess. '''[[User:LugiaFan|''Lugia'']][[User talk:LugiaFan|''Rules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"]]''' 16:32, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
:::Someone should test it out o: [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 16:36, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
::::I can't cause I have no ascess to the Hall of Orgin. '''[[User:LugiaFan|''Lugia'']][[User talk:LugiaFan|''Rules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"]]''' 16:41, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
a full:::::Me nether, i have no DS cheat devices ether. D: So i can't. But i'd really like to know now [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 16:51, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::There is gonna be an event to get the Flute soon I think. '''[[User:LugiaFan|''Lugia'']][[User talk:LugiaFan|''Rules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"]]''' 16:55, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::::What the...? Nintendo haven't even officially revealed Arceus yet! D: How can there be an event? [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 17:01, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::::I said I THINK. '''[[User:LugiaFan|''Lugia'']][[User talk:LugiaFan|''Rules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"]]''' 17:10, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::Damn, no need to go capital locks on me D: [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 17:16, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Chill out guysss...I just opened my DS up and since I have the Azure Flute (got it from a friend's AR a while ago, I'm no cheater, I just wanted Arceus :P) I'll go check out the Hall of Origin and try to use an Escape Rope there. Assuming I can still reach it. --'''[[User:Gabbie|gabbie]]''' | '''[[User_talk:Gabbie|talk]]''' 17:41, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

:Wait, do you guys want to know if you can leave it if you reached it via Surf Glitch, or if you can just leave it normally? --'''[[User:Gabbie|gabbie]]''' | '''[[User_talk:Gabbie|talk]]''' 17:58, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
::we want to know if you can escape using an Escape Rope. '''[[User:LugiaFan|''Lugia'']][[User talk:LugiaFan|''Rules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"]]''' 18:28, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
:::Uhuh. Cause if you can i wanna put a note about it in the article... [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 18:32, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
::::No I wanna DO IT. '''[[User:LugiaFan|''Lugia'']][[User talk:LugiaFan|''Rules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"]]''' 18:36, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::Excuse me, chill out please. --'''[[User:Gabbie|gabbie]]''' | '''[[User_talk:Gabbie|talk]]''' 18:37, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

::::Okay well, I just finally got to the Spear Pillar (I had forgotten how to get there, haven't played this game in ages), and I blew the Azure Flute, and it just says this:
:::: ''The Azure Flute echoed hollowly...''
:::: ''It appears to be meaningless using the Azure Flute here...''
::::And I tried it in different spots, and it said the same thing, so basically, since I've already caught Arceus, the Azure Flute has become obsolete and I can no longer access the Hall of Origin. D: So...someone who's never done it before will have to try this out. --'''[[User:Gabbie|gabbie]]''' | '''[[User_talk:Gabbie|talk]]''' 18:36, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::D| Damn. Can an Azure Flute be attached to a Pokémon and traded? Cause if it can, im gonna ask my friends if anyone has one i could borrow/have... [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 18:39, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::Unfortunately, key items can not be traded. Sorry hun. D: --'''[[User:Gabbie|gabbie]]''' | '''[[User_talk:Gabbie|talk]]''' 18:46, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Oh right D| I didn't know if it was a key item or not. Oh well. [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 18:47, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

How about battling Arceus with 6 poisoned Pokémon? You could catch it, it would transport to the PC, then you could walk around the Hall until your last Pokémon faints. --[[User:Fsilone|隼也]] 22:03, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
:I'm pretty sure that would work. |: [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 22:20, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

It won't work cos poisoning stops at 1HP now--[[User:Dion24|Dion24]] 00:08, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
:O: Does it? I...never noticed, my Pokémon hardly get poisoned... So yeah... D: [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 00:17, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Did not know that. Probably because I don't have a DS. --[[User:Fsilone|隼也]] 16:08, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

That was probably a faulty cheat if the flute didn't work. Once I get Arceus- already accessed Hall of Origin- I'll try it out.[[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 23:42, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

It's pointless to try it in the Hall of Origin. You can't use it in Spear Pillar, and since they're connected, I'm 99% you won't be able to there either.--[[User:Goukazaru|Nostalgia]] 02:00, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

:Doesn't work. I just realized, if someone bothers enough to hack the game to get Arceus and get stuck in Hall of Origin, wouldn't it make sense that they could just get an AR, use the WTW cheat, and walk(rather, fall) off the platform?[[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 01:05, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

== Problem? ==

When I got the Azure Flute from the Action Replay I went to Spear Pillar and I still couldn't get to the hall of origin. Did anyone else have this problem or am I just a loser cheater? [[User:Rucario64]]

It's because you havn't activated the event itself. Do that and then the flute should work. [[User:Tywddle|Tywddle]] 19:23, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

== Azure Flute Event Cancellation ==

Due to the discovery of the Elite Four Door Glitch (the Surf Glitch), and possibly due to Action Replays being used to obtain the Legendaries, Nintendo has cancelled the three events for Darkrai, Shaymin, and Arceus. Likely enough, as with Darkrai, Shaymin and Arceus will be distrubuted through the "Toys 'R' Us" method. I know this for a fact, but I have no citation. If somebody can find one and add that to this article for me, you are the greatest person ever (or at least pretty high on list). Thank you. [[User:LordArceus|LordArceus]]
: I doubt they've been canceled ''forever'', we'll probably get a Darkrai event sometime in 2009. Why would they bother adding to the events in Platinum if they were just going to never activate them? Patience [[Kricketot|young grasshopper]]. [[User:Aura-Knight|Aura-Knight]] 07:12, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
::2009 is Shaymin for the other countries, like Darkrai is this year and Manaphy last year *[[User:Tc26|Tc]][[User talk:Tc26|26]]* 07:24, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
:It's not called the "TRU" method... *[[User:Tc26|Tc]][[User talk:Tc26|26]]* 07:24, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

== You CAN escape from Hall of Origin ==

It has been proven that if you AR yourself to Hall of Origin without the Flute, ''the stairs are in fact there.''

I don't know what started the rumor that if you AR to Hall of Origin there will be no stairs.

Remember that Hall of Origin and Spear Pillar are entirely separate areas. HoO always has the stairs, and Spear Pillar never does. {{unsigned|Blueapple128}}

:Er, cool. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 03:22, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Ditto (Pokémon)

2009-02-02T00:50:06Z

Kiryu: /* Glitches */

{{PokémonPrevNext | prev=Lapras | next=Eevee }}
{{PokémonInfobox|
name=Ditto |
jname=メタモン |
tmname=Metamon |
image=132Ditto.png |
caption=Artwork from FR/LG |
pron=<sc>''did''-oh</sc> <ref>Barbo, Maria. ''The Official Pokémon Handbook''. Scholastic Publishing, 1999. ISBN 0-439-10397-5</ref> or <sc>''dit''-oh </sc>  |
ndex=132 |
jdex=092 |
hdex=287 |
typen=1 |
type1=Normal |
type2= |
species=Transform |
height-ftin=1′00″ |
height-m=0.3 |
weight-lbs=8.8 |
weight-kg=4.0 |
abilityn=1 |
ability1=Limber |
ability2= |
egggroupn=1 |
egggroup1=Ditto |
egggroup2= |
hatchsteps=5,120 |
effortyield=1 HP |
expyield=61 |
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footnotes=}}
'''Ditto''' ([[List of Japanese Pokémon names|Japanese]]: '''メタモン''' ''Metamon'') is a {{type2|Normal}} Pokémon.

It is not known to evolve into or from any other Pokémon.

Ditto uses the move {{m|Transform}} to copy the opponent's moves, types, form, and non-HP stats. It is sought out for its ability to [[Pokémon breeding|breed]] with any Pokémon other than the Pokémon in the {{egg|No eggs}} group, including genderless ones.

==Biology==
===Physiology===
In its natural state, Ditto is a purplish gelatinous blob with vestigial facial features. However, it can take the form of anything.
====Gender differences====
Ditto is a genderless species.

====Special abilities====
Ditto is capable of {{m|Transform}}ing in to an an exact replica of any other Pokémon (an ability that is also shared with {{p|Mew}}), or indeed any physical object. However, if Ditto tries to transform into something based on memory, it may get some of the details wrong. Ditto will also be unable to remain in a transformed state if it starts laughing. Frequently, a Ditto appears that can't transform its face. This fact is seen in the anime, as well as in [[Pokémon Snap]] (in which several Ditto are transformed into {{p|Bulbasaur}}), and [[Pokémon Diamond and Pearl]] (in which, during the [[Veilstone Game Corner|Game Corner]] [[slot machine]] game, a {{p|Clefairy}} with a Ditto's face will occasionally appear instead of a real Clefairy). In rare cases it will lack the ability to increase or decrease in size, thus rather than creating exact duplicates, it will create (usually) miniature versions. Ditto can not mimic the strength of another Pokémon. Ditto's ability to breed with any non-legendary Pokémon is also useful for creating Pokémon eggs of the more rare Pokémon that it may be difficult to get a mate for, such as the [[starter Pokémon]].

===Behavior===
Ditto's primary defense mechanism is its ability to rearrange its cellular structure. This permits it to transform into essentially any other physical object. When two Ditto meet in the wild, they will attempt to transform into each other. This tendency makes Ditto a unique Pokémon in battle, as it will adapt the form and abilities of its foe. Ditto is best able to transform into something if it has a model to work from. Although Ditto can transform via memory, it has a tendency to forget important details, particularly with its foe's face.

===Habitat===
[[Image:Urban.gif|right|frame|[[List of Pokémon by habitat#Urban Pokémon|Urban Pokémon]]]]
Ditto live in very diverse habitats, the most common being caves and forested areas. However, Ditto are never far from civilization or people. There have even been sightings of Ditto in places such as the Pokémon Mansion.

===Diet===
{{main|Pokémon food}}

==In the anime==
[[Image:DittosMysteriousMansion.gif|right|thumb|[[Ash's Pikachu]] with [[Duplica's Ditto]].]]
Ditto first appeared in ''[[EP037|Ditto's Mysterious Mansion]]''. [[Duplica]] and her {{TP|Duplica|Ditto}} used to perform for people, but the two hadn't had an audience since people saw that Ditto couldn't change its face. Ditto fixed that problem near the end of the episode, when captured by [[Team Rocket]].

In ''[[EP111|Hello Pummelo]]'', [[Drake (Orange Islands)|Drake]] of the [[Orange Islands]] owns a Ditto and uses it to fight [[Ash's Pikachu]]. After the battle with Drake's Ditto, Pikachu came out the victor.

Duplica found another Ditto sometime before ''[[EP174|Imitation Confrontation]]'' that she named [[Mini-Dit]]. This second Ditto could transform into an exact mirror image of anything, but it couldn't change its size.

Ditto was also owned by a member of [[Team Magma]] named [[Brodie]], who debuted in ''[[AG083|Unfair Weather Friends]]''. A Ditto suited Brodie well because he ''is'' a master of disguise.

==In the manga==
Ditto is one of the members on {{Special|Blue}}'s team in [[Pokémon Special]]. As a master of transformation, Blue uses Ditto extensively in her schemes, such as morphing over her face to disguise her appearance, camouflaging into its background for subterfuge, as well as forming a protective shield with Blue's umbrella.

Ditto is seen later used by [[Team Rocket]], to lure {{Special|Crystal}} and [[Eusine]] away from {{p|Suicune}}, and smother them when discovered. It was, however, defeated by Crystal's {{p|Hitmonchan}}.

Duplica and her Ditto are seen in [[Electric Tale of Pikachu|The Electric Tale of Pikachu]]. Finding Ditto appealing, [[Misty]] decides to capture one of her own, but the plan is called off when {{p|Pikachu}} goes missing. Ditto also featured in a minicomic in which it transforms into {{Ash}}, harasses Misty and thereby getting Ash into a lot of pain.

Ditto is also featured in ''[[Pokémon Zensho]]'' under the ownership of [[Satoshi (Zensho)|Satoshi]].

==In the TCG==
{{main|Ditto (TCG)}}

==Other appearances==
===[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]===
[[Image:Ditto Melee.png|right|thumb|A screenshot of Ditto in Melee.]]
Ditto was originally intended to be one of the Pokémon randomly released from a [[Poké Ball]]. It would have transformed into a copy of the user's character and aided them in battle. However, processing problems forced its removal before the game's release. Ditto can be still be unlocked through the debug menu (which is only accessible through the use of Action Replay), though it does not do anything other than give 7-8% damage to those who touch it.

As for its official status, Ditto only appears as a random trophy and as a cameo in the Tournament Mode menu. In Winner Out or Loser Out tournaments, holding down L and R and pressing A will give the player a random character and color. The usual character image will instead be taken by a picture of Ditto.

====Trophy information====
Every Ditto has the ability to copy a Pokémon's entire cell structure in an instant and become its exact replica. They're terrible at remembering techniques, but when they use {{M|Transform}}, they temporarily learn all of their foe's moves. If a Ditto starts to laugh, it weakens and can't hold its transformation.

==Game data==
===NPC appearances===
*[[Pokémon Trozei!]]: Ditto serves as a "wild card", meaning it can Trozei with any Pokémon and must be used to get rid of Jammer Balls. One will appear when a Trozei is made with more Pokémon than necessary and multiple appear at the beginning of a new round in Endless and Forever mode to clear out the remaining Pokémon.
*[[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon]]: Ditto is found in many dungeons. In a complete twist from its previous appearance in Trozei, in this game it is quite useless. While Transform gives the user the appearance of a random Pokémon found on the current floor, it does not copy the opponent's moves or stats. In addition, it only has 1 PP, allowing only one use per dungeon without restoring items. After using Transform, Ditto's only options are to {{M|struggle}} or use the basic tackle attack exclusive to Mystery Dungeon.

===Pokédex entries===
{{Dex
|type=normal
|gen=1
|redbluedex=Capable of copying an enemy's genetic code to instantly {{M|transform}} itself into a duplicate of the enemy.
|yellowdex=When it spots an enemy, its body {{m|transform}}s into an almost perfect copy of its opponent.
|stadiumdex=Capable of reorganizing its cells to transform into an exact duplicate of its enemy. It is usually a shapeless blob.
|golddex=It can {{m|transform}} into anything. When it sleeps, it changes into a stone to avoid being attacked.
|silverdex=Its transformation ability is perfect. However, if it is made to laugh, it can't maintain its disguise.
|crystaldex=When it encounters another Ditto, it will move faster than normal to duplicate that opponent exactly.
|stadium2dex=It can transform into anything. When it sleeps, it changes into a stone to avoid being attacked.
|rubydex=Ditto rearranges its cell structure to {{m|transform}} itself into other shapes. However, if it tries to transform itself into something by relying on its memory, this [[Pokémon]] manages to get details wrong.
|sapphiredex=Ditto rearranges its cell structure to {{m|transform}} itself into other shapes. However, if it tries to transform itself into something by relying on its memory, this [[Pokémon]] manages to get details wrong.
|emeralddex=A Ditto rearranges its cell structure to {{m|transform}} itself. However, if it tries to change based on its memory, it will get details wrong.
|firereddex=It can freely recombine its own cellular structure to {{m|transform}} into other life-forms.
|leafgreendex=Capable of copying an opponent's genetic code to instantly transform itself into a duplicate of the enemy.
|diamonddex=It has the ability to reconstitute its entire cellular structure to {{m|transform}} into whatever it sees.
|pearldex=It has the ability to reconstitute its entire cellular structure to {{m|transform}} into whatever it sees.
|platinumdex={{tt|JP|Unofficial translation of the Japanese entry}} It has the ability to reconstitute its entire cellular structure to {{m|transform}} into whatever it sees.}}

===Game locations===
{{Availability|
type=normal |
gen=1 |
rbrarity=Common |
rbarea=[[Route]]s {{rtn|13}}, {{rtn|14}}, {{rtn|15}}, {{rtn|23}}, [[Cerulean Cave]] |
yrarity=Common |
yarea=[[Pokémon Mansion]] and [[Cerulean Cave]] |
gsrarity=Common |
gsarea=[[Route]]s {{rtn|34}} and {{rtn|35}} |
crarity=Common |
carea=[[Route]]s {{rtn|34}} and {{rtn|35}} |
gen3ex=frlg|
erarity=Common |
earea=[[Desert Underpass]] |
frlgrarity=Uncommon |
frlgarea=[[Route]]s {{rtn|13}}, {{rtn|14}}, {{rtn|15}}, [[Pokémon Mansion]], [[Cerulean Cave]] |
dprarity=Rare |
dparea={{rt|218}} ([[Poké Radar]]) |
ptrarity=Rare |
ptarea=[[Trophy Garden]] |
palarea=Field |
}}

====In side games====
{| border="1" style="border: 1px solid #999; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: auto;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="2"
|- style="background: #{{normal color}};"
! Game
! Location
|-
| [[Pokémon Channel]]
| [[Springleaf Field|Bus Stop]]
|-
| [[Pokémon Snap]]
| [[Pokémon Island Cave|Cave]]
|-
| [[Pokémon Trozei!]]
| Everywhere
|-
| [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon (Red and Blue)]]
| [[Frosty Forest]] (4F-9F) [[Fiery Field]] (10F, 20F) [[Buried Relic]] (16F-34F) [[Wish Cave]] (53F-64F) [[Joyous Tower]] (53F-64F) [[Oddity Cave]] (B1-B15)
|-
| [[Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 2|Pokémon Mystery Dungeon (Time and Darkness)]]
| [[Sky Stairway]] (1F-49F)
|}

===Base stats===
{{BaseStats with RBY|
HP=48 |
Attack=48 |
Defense=48 |
SpAtk=48 |
SpDef=48 |
Special=48 |
Speed=48 |
type=Normal }}

===Type effectiveness===
These numbers are good only for a Ditto that has not {{m|Transform}}ed. After that point, please see the type effectiveness for the species that it Transformed into.
{{DP Type effectiveness|
type1=normal|
Normal= 100 |
Flying= 100 |
Fighting=200 |
Ground= 100 |
Rock= 100 |
Bug= 100 |
Poison= 100 |
Ghost= 0 |
Steel= 100 |

Fire= 100 |
Water= 100 |
Grass= 100 |
Electric=100 |
Psychic= 100 |
Ice= 100 |
Dragon= 100 |
Dark= 100 }}

===Learnset===
====By [[Level|leveling up]]====
{{movelist|normal|normal|4|1|Ditto}}
{{mlentry4|Start|Transform|Normal|Status|—|—|10|Smart|1}}
{{movelist/note|4|normal}}

====By [[TM]]/[[HM]]====
None.
====By [[breeding]]====
None.
====By [[Move tutor|tutoring]]====
None.
====[[TCG]]-only moves====
*{{m|Pound}} {{ic|Normal}}
*{{m|Energy Ball}} {{ic|Grass}}

===Side game data===
{{Side game|
type=normal |
ndex=132 |
Pincatch=yes |
Trozei=yes |
rarity=Common |
Dungeon=yes |
body=1 |
rate=6.8% |
area=Decrepit Lab |
P1= Who should I copy next? |
P2= I have only half my HP left... |
P3= I'm out of it... I don't have the power to {{M|transform}}... |
PL= Yes! My level's up! |
Partner=no |
Ranger=no |
Dungeon2=yes |
body2=1 |
rate2=8.2% |
iq=A |
}}

===Evolution===
{{evobox/0|132|Ditto|1|Normal}}

===Sprites===
{{Sprite|
type=normal|
gen=1|
gender=none|
ndex=132|
name=Ditto|
}}

==Trivia==
* Ditto is the only Pokémon to date with a [[catch rate]] of 35.
* Ditto and {{p|Manaphy}} are the only Pokémon that are both able to breed yet unobtainable through breeding.
*Ditto is one of the few [[Generation I]] non-legendary Pokémon that have no evolutionary relatives, along with {{p|Farfetch'd}}, {{p|Kangaskhan}}, {{p|Pinsir}}, {{p|Tauros}}, {{p|Aerodactyl}}, and {{p|Lapras}}.
*In {{g|Snap}}, Ditto take the form of {{p|Bulbasaur}} towards the end of the game. The player can cause them to return to their Ditto form by hitting them with an object. When the player takes their picture, Professor Oak treats the photo as that of a real Bulbasaur, although Ditto has the same eyes when it is transformed as when it is not. This trait is shared by a Ditto in the {{pkmn|anime}}, although it was understood in the anime that this was not normal.
*An alien in the television series {{wp|Ben 10}} shares a name with Ditto.
**However, unlike the Pokémon, the alien Ditto can simply multiply, and gets its name when two of them say the exact same thing at the exact same time.
*It is one of the few Pokémon that has the same sprite on [[Pokémon Ruby and Sapphire Versions|Ruby, Sapphire]], [[Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen Versions|FireRed, LeafGreen]] and [[Pokémon Emerald Version|Emerald]].
* Ditto's Generation III sprites, its appearance in Melee and anime appearances show a pink color, contrasting the purple hue displayed elsewhere.

===Glitches===
Ditto has been closely associated with several [[Glitch|Pokémon glitches]]. When an [['M]] is captured in the Red and Blue versions, the trainer will still be in battle and an invisible Ditto will be where 'M once was. Additionally, Ditto is a necessary Pokémon for carrying out Method #3 of the [[Mew Glitch]], a glitch capable of allowing the player to run into any Pokémon or any glitch Pokémon ([http://www.trsrockin.com/hexlist.html]). Furthermore, if a glitch involving a Ditto's {{m|Transform}} is performed, it will learn the {{m2|Cooltrainer|Cooltrainer move}}.

In [[Generation II]] by exploiting the factors determining a shiny Pokémon one can get a shiny Ditto by transfering the Red Gyarados to [[Generation I]] and making a wild Ditto copy its IV and transferring it to [[Generation II]].

In [[Generation IV]], more glitches involving Ditto's transformation have been discovered. In the original Japanese {{2v2|Diamond|Pearl}}, a Ditto using Transform during a battle can duplicate the Pokémon's [[held item]] as well as its species, allowing rare items to be duplicated. Additionally, another glitch allows it to Transform and then keep the moveset of the Pokémon it became permanently, allowing it to pass down previously impossible [[egg move]] combinations to ''any'' Pokémon in a large-scale version of {{p|Smeargle}}'s ability to do this with any {{egg2|Ground}} Pokémon by way of {{m|Sketch}}.

===The Transform Paradox===
If Ditto (or another Pokémon with only {{m|Transform}}) faces another Pokémon with Transform in a {{pkmn|Trainer}} battle where neither Trainer has any items and no Pokémon besides the Pokémon with Transform, the battle will never end. This is because when Transform is used, the Pokémon will turn into its opponent, resulting in a Transform moveset of, again, only Transform. Since every time Transform is used, it gives the Pokémon using it the target's moveset with 5 [[PP]] each, Transform will continue to Transform into itself, restoring the PP every time it is used. Due to this, one will never reach a point where it can only use {{m|Struggle}}, unlike what is the case with {{p|Wynaut}} and {{p|Wobbuffet}}. This is likely why no Trainers have Ditto in the Generation IV games, except in the {{si|Battle Tower}}, where one can always retire.

===Origin===
Ditto strongly resembles an {{wp|amoeba}}, a single-celled organism with no definate shape. This may emphasize its ability to alter its cellular compostion. This could also explain why Ditto is unavailable through breeding, since single-celled organisms reproduce differently from multi-cellular plants and animals.It may also be based on an undifferentiated cell, a cell in the body that can change into any other cell by sampling it. It also can be based on a {{wp|blob}}.
====Name origin====
A ''ditto'' is a substitute for repeating what was previously written or said. Ditto's Japanese name is a combination of ''{{wp|metamorph}}'', ''monster'', and possibly ''transformation''.

==In other languages==
*[[List of German Pokémon names|German]]: Ditto
*[[List of French Pokémon names|French]]: Metamorph - From ''{{wp|metamorph}}''.
*[[List of Korean Pokémon names|Korean]]: 메타몽 ''Metamong''

==Related articles==
*[[Duplica's Ditto]]

==External links==

==Notes==
<references />

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Talk:Ditto (Pokémon)

2009-02-02T00:48:38Z

Kiryu: /* Ben 10 in Trivia */

I'm pretty sure Ditto's in the No Egg group. While it can breed with any Pokémon besides those in the No Egg group, it cannot breed with another Ditto, implying that it is, itself, in the No Egg group. -[[User:Ketsuban|Ketsuban]]

Ditto is in a special egg group called "DITTO" (you know how the game likes to use all-caps for Pokemon names). This group allows it to breed with anything other than a Pokemon in the "No EGGs" group or the "DITTO" group. This is what allows Ditto to breed with Pikachu or Staryu, but Suicune can't breed with other Pokemon. --[[User:Meowth346|Meowth346]]

I thought you could breed two Ditto and get another Ditto. [[User:Surskitty|surskitty]] 23:01, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Nope. Stupidly. ~Ketz

Ditto is able to breed with other Pokémon ostensibly because of its ability to transform into other Pokémon. If it was paired with another Ditto, it wouldn't have anything to transform into, and since Ditto are genderless, would therefore have no reproductive organs.

Makes perfect sense to me that two purplish-pink blobs can't mate with each other. --17:09, 9 August 2007 (UTC)Ozzie

Does that mean that Ditto can breed with Lucario?[[User:Optimus35|Optimus35]] 03:23, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
:Anything but legendaries means anything but legendaries. Lucario isn't legendary. Therefore, ''of course''. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 04:57, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

::Er Thanks...[[User:Optimus35|Optimus35]] 08:36, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

didnt in in the II gen games if you put Ditto in the day care by itself turn into two dittos (most likely because it duplicated like a cell)--[[User:Kittenchild|Kittenchild]] 02:58, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

So I can't have a Lvl.1 Ditto? [[User:Tesh|'''TESHIGIGAS''']] 18:34, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

In the same note of discussion, how was the Steps to Hatch a Ditto Egg reached? Hack?
:The data's in there for all Pokémon just in case you ''somehow'' (usually hacking) manage to make an egg of it. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 07:17, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

== Hmmm..... ==

Ditto in the [[Anime]] could morph into any other pokemonn but keeps it size in some cases , but in the TCG it keeps its beaded eyes , that just makes wonder , can the [[Pokémon]] that ditto morphs to in the TCG be exceptions or special forms?--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 12:38, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
:I don't think so...D: Not sure... *is currently in Science-ICT class at school* [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 12:47, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

i think the info above should be mentioned in the trivia about the beaded eyes. to be honest nintendo shoud confirm this--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 13:25, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

== Trivia ==

Though worthless to do, can't u breed 2 Dittos and get another Ditto?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 15:23, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

:No. You cannot breed a Ditto with a Ditto. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:53, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Really... interesting--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 18:09, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

It's confusing, but it makes vague sense since Ditto has no gender. Remember, non-gendered Pokémon can't be bred, even with Ditto...it's "Unknown"-gendered Pokémon (Magnemite etc.) that can. Ditto has a unique egg type as well, we assume it breeds with everything except itself and None. [[User:LordArceus|LordArceus]] 00:07, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

While not made true in the games or implied in other sources: Considering its physical structure, does anyone else think that Ditto reproduces asexually? -- [[User:HechEff|HechEff]] 18:18, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

:It probably does, but since no official sources imply or otherwise indicate this, it doesn't belong in the article. It's pure speculation, and it's just as plausible that a fixed number of Ditto were created by Arceus at the beginning or time, and they lie dormant until bothered in the tall grasses. Or maybe Dittos are actually single cells from Mew's body that have grown much larger. — [[User:Laoris|Laoris]] ([[User_Talk:Laoris|Blah]]) 18:30, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
::That... actually makes perfect sense. It would explain why the both of them can use Transform while no other pokemon can...[[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 00:42, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

== Learn every move ==

Can't ditto learn every move with its move transform?[[User:ShinyPikachu|ryan]] 00:10, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
:But since it doesn't keep the move permanently, it doesn't go under the Learnset section. - [[User talk:SpontaneousCombusken|s.]][[User:SpontaneousCombusken|'''Combusken''']] 00:11, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
Ok i was just wondering[[User:ShinyPikachu|ryan]] 14:39, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

== Color ==

Sould it be noted that, in all sprites exept Gen. 3 Ditto's color is purple, but in its Gen. 3 sprite it's pink ? [[User:ShinyPikachu|ryan]] 15:19, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

no cos to me it looks pink all time and in Yellow it Yellowy-green.[[User:GoldsWigglytuff|GoldsWigglytuff]] 10:42, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

== Buggy Moves ==
In my Pokemon Diamond game, I was using Ditto to catch Pokemon. After using transform on and catching a Primape, combat ended with Ditto still looking like Primape (duh). After that I got into another wild battle and Ditto was Ditto again, but with Primape's moveset. I am making an assumption that you can potentially make Ditto a permanent clone move-wise this way, anyone want to experiment? [[User:Crenel|Crenel]] 21:07, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

never happed to me and my ditto, if was a bug in your game then you are lucky.
and what do mean experiment? I can experiment.[[User:GoldsWigglytuff|GoldsWigglytuff]]
:Wha? I've heard of this happening... was this a Japanese game or the international release? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:57, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

== if a shiny ditto Transforms will it Transform in a shiny whatever==
if it don,t then saud be in the page [[User:GoldsWigglytuff|GoldsWigglytuff]]
:It did, but won't anymore. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:59, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

cool, when did it solp[[User:GoldsWigglytuff|GoldsWigglytuff]] 10:40, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
:Gen IV is the first game where it becomes, shiny or not, whatever it turned into. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:30, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

==Title==
The Transform Paradox: I changed the title because this example is not actually a paradox. A paradox is an extended contradiction, this is not. {{unsigned|Manowardogsofwar}}
:True, yes, however, a paradox is also an infinite time loop that self-contradicts. The contradiction here comes in the never-lowering PP of Transform for both Pokémon, remaining locked at 5. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:29, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
There is no contradiction in this at all. Both using Transform is nothing more than a deadlock. An infinite time loop the self-contradicts would be going back in time to kill your grandfather and succeeding.

==Shiny Ditto Glitch==
What the F...lareon happened to the glitch to get a shiny ditto in G/S using R/B, if no one knows what I'm talking about here's how (altough it's old and I think you all know):

1 Capture the shiny Gyarados in G/S and ransfer it to R/B
2 Teach Gyarados Mimic and erase all his other moves
3 Battle a wild Ditto with the Gyarados, mimic him and transform a few turns while it transforms
4 Capture the Ditto and transfer it to G/S it will be shiny

Notes: I'm not sure if it's a requirement but all of the times I used the Pokémon Stadium 2 (For both transfer and Doduo GB).

Sorry I don't have a video or anything but try it out, I didn't directly affect the article but I'll edit it if no one answers this in 10 days.
--[[User:Sword zero001|Sword zero001]] 06:56, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
:The egg's a glitch, that's how breeding worked in Generation II. See [[Breeding#Trivia|the last part of the trivia]]. You just got lucky because of you got a shiny Charmander. And I think the shiny Ditto trick is also mentioned somewhere. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 23:40, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

The glitch has nothing to do with the Shiny Charmander I only wrote that to reference but since I confused you I'll delete it.--[[User:Sword zero001|Sword zero001]] 16:43, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

== Ben 10 in Trivia ==

''An alien in the television series Ben 10 shares a name with Ditto. However, unlike the Pokémon, the alien Ditto can simply multiply, and gets its name when two of them say the exact same thing at the exact same time.'' Don't tell me this belongs in the article. Ben 10 has absolutely nothing to do with Ditto. I don't want to start a revert war, however. [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 00:48, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Ditto (Pokémon)

2009-02-02T00:48:00Z

Kiryu: /* Ben 10 in Trivia */ new section

I'm pretty sure Ditto's in the No Egg group. While it can breed with any Pokémon besides those in the No Egg group, it cannot breed with another Ditto, implying that it is, itself, in the No Egg group. -[[User:Ketsuban|Ketsuban]]

Ditto is in a special egg group called "DITTO" (you know how the game likes to use all-caps for Pokemon names). This group allows it to breed with anything other than a Pokemon in the "No EGGs" group or the "DITTO" group. This is what allows Ditto to breed with Pikachu or Staryu, but Suicune can't breed with other Pokemon. --[[User:Meowth346|Meowth346]]

I thought you could breed two Ditto and get another Ditto. [[User:Surskitty|surskitty]] 23:01, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Nope. Stupidly. ~Ketz

Ditto is able to breed with other Pokémon ostensibly because of its ability to transform into other Pokémon. If it was paired with another Ditto, it wouldn't have anything to transform into, and since Ditto are genderless, would therefore have no reproductive organs.

Makes perfect sense to me that two purplish-pink blobs can't mate with each other. --17:09, 9 August 2007 (UTC)Ozzie

Does that mean that Ditto can breed with Lucario?[[User:Optimus35|Optimus35]] 03:23, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
:Anything but legendaries means anything but legendaries. Lucario isn't legendary. Therefore, ''of course''. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 04:57, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

::Er Thanks...[[User:Optimus35|Optimus35]] 08:36, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

didnt in in the II gen games if you put Ditto in the day care by itself turn into two dittos (most likely because it duplicated like a cell)--[[User:Kittenchild|Kittenchild]] 02:58, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

So I can't have a Lvl.1 Ditto? [[User:Tesh|'''TESHIGIGAS''']] 18:34, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

In the same note of discussion, how was the Steps to Hatch a Ditto Egg reached? Hack?
:The data's in there for all Pokémon just in case you ''somehow'' (usually hacking) manage to make an egg of it. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 07:17, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

== Hmmm..... ==

Ditto in the [[Anime]] could morph into any other pokemonn but keeps it size in some cases , but in the TCG it keeps its beaded eyes , that just makes wonder , can the [[Pokémon]] that ditto morphs to in the TCG be exceptions or special forms?--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 12:38, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
:I don't think so...D: Not sure... *is currently in Science-ICT class at school* [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 12:47, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

i think the info above should be mentioned in the trivia about the beaded eyes. to be honest nintendo shoud confirm this--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 13:25, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

== Trivia ==

Though worthless to do, can't u breed 2 Dittos and get another Ditto?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 15:23, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

:No. You cannot breed a Ditto with a Ditto. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 17:53, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Really... interesting--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 18:09, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

It's confusing, but it makes vague sense since Ditto has no gender. Remember, non-gendered Pokémon can't be bred, even with Ditto...it's "Unknown"-gendered Pokémon (Magnemite etc.) that can. Ditto has a unique egg type as well, we assume it breeds with everything except itself and None. [[User:LordArceus|LordArceus]] 00:07, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

While not made true in the games or implied in other sources: Considering its physical structure, does anyone else think that Ditto reproduces asexually? -- [[User:HechEff|HechEff]] 18:18, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

:It probably does, but since no official sources imply or otherwise indicate this, it doesn't belong in the article. It's pure speculation, and it's just as plausible that a fixed number of Ditto were created by Arceus at the beginning or time, and they lie dormant until bothered in the tall grasses. Or maybe Dittos are actually single cells from Mew's body that have grown much larger. — [[User:Laoris|Laoris]] ([[User_Talk:Laoris|Blah]]) 18:30, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
::That... actually makes perfect sense. It would explain why the both of them can use Transform while no other pokemon can...[[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 00:42, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

== Learn every move ==

Can't ditto learn every move with its move transform?[[User:ShinyPikachu|ryan]] 00:10, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
:But since it doesn't keep the move permanently, it doesn't go under the Learnset section. - [[User talk:SpontaneousCombusken|s.]][[User:SpontaneousCombusken|'''Combusken''']] 00:11, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
Ok i was just wondering[[User:ShinyPikachu|ryan]] 14:39, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

== Color ==

Sould it be noted that, in all sprites exept Gen. 3 Ditto's color is purple, but in its Gen. 3 sprite it's pink ? [[User:ShinyPikachu|ryan]] 15:19, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

no cos to me it looks pink all time and in Yellow it Yellowy-green.[[User:GoldsWigglytuff|GoldsWigglytuff]] 10:42, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

== Buggy Moves ==
In my Pokemon Diamond game, I was using Ditto to catch Pokemon. After using transform on and catching a Primape, combat ended with Ditto still looking like Primape (duh). After that I got into another wild battle and Ditto was Ditto again, but with Primape's moveset. I am making an assumption that you can potentially make Ditto a permanent clone move-wise this way, anyone want to experiment? [[User:Crenel|Crenel]] 21:07, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

never happed to me and my ditto, if was a bug in your game then you are lucky.
and what do mean experiment? I can experiment.[[User:GoldsWigglytuff|GoldsWigglytuff]]
:Wha? I've heard of this happening... was this a Japanese game or the international release? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:57, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

== if a shiny ditto Transforms will it Transform in a shiny whatever==
if it don,t then saud be in the page [[User:GoldsWigglytuff|GoldsWigglytuff]]
:It did, but won't anymore. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:59, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

cool, when did it solp[[User:GoldsWigglytuff|GoldsWigglytuff]] 10:40, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
:Gen IV is the first game where it becomes, shiny or not, whatever it turned into. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:30, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

==Title==
The Transform Paradox: I changed the title because this example is not actually a paradox. A paradox is an extended contradiction, this is not. {{unsigned|Manowardogsofwar}}
:True, yes, however, a paradox is also an infinite time loop that self-contradicts. The contradiction here comes in the never-lowering PP of Transform for both Pokémon, remaining locked at 5. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:29, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
There is no contradiction in this at all. Both using Transform is nothing more than a deadlock. An infinite time loop the self-contradicts would be going back in time to kill your grandfather and succeeding.

==Shiny Ditto Glitch==
What the F...lareon happened to the glitch to get a shiny ditto in G/S using R/B, if no one knows what I'm talking about here's how (altough it's old and I think you all know):

1 Capture the shiny Gyarados in G/S and ransfer it to R/B
2 Teach Gyarados Mimic and erase all his other moves
3 Battle a wild Ditto with the Gyarados, mimic him and transform a few turns while it transforms
4 Capture the Ditto and transfer it to G/S it will be shiny

Notes: I'm not sure if it's a requirement but all of the times I used the Pokémon Stadium 2 (For both transfer and Doduo GB).

Sorry I don't have a video or anything but try it out, I didn't directly affect the article but I'll edit it if no one answers this in 10 days.
--[[User:Sword zero001|Sword zero001]] 06:56, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
:The egg's a glitch, that's how breeding worked in Generation II. See [[Breeding#Trivia|the last part of the trivia]]. You just got lucky because of you got a shiny Charmander. And I think the shiny Ditto trick is also mentioned somewhere. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 23:40, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

The glitch has nothing to do with the Shiny Charmander I only wrote that to reference but since I confused you I'll delete it.--[[User:Sword zero001|Sword zero001]] 16:43, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

== Ben 10 in Trivia ==

''An alien in the television series Ben 10 shares a name with Ditto.
However, unlike the Pokémon, the alien Ditto can simply multiply, and gets its name when two of them say the exact same thing at the exact same time.'' Don't tell me this belongs in the article. Ben 10 has absolutely nothing to do with Ditto. I don't want to start a revert war, however. [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 00:48, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Ditto (Pokémon)

2009-02-02T00:42:45Z

Kiryu: /* Trivia */

Talk:ZZAZZ glitch

2009-02-02T00:19:09Z

Kiryu: New page: I read this on Glitchcity.info: "BTW, there's a pattern to this glitch: Bulbasaur is HEX 153, Explosion is HEX 153, the letter Z is HEX 153, and the Bulbasaurs are Level 153. The glitch ju...

I read this on Glitchcity.info: "BTW, there's a pattern to this glitch: Bulbasaur is HEX 153, Explosion is HEX 153, the letter Z is HEX 153, and the Bulbasaurs are Level 153. The glitch just sets all of the game's variables to HEX 153. Also for some reason the Pokemon, the third letter in your name, and the third move in you Pokemon's move set are spared. three is the magic number." This should be mentioned.[[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 00:19, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Talk:M02

2009-01-26T00:46:50Z

Kiryu: /* Pikachu/ Latias */ new section

== Mew? ==

There's a small cameo of Mew. Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjTc-XXKLyw&feature=related at 8:11 [[User:Rodyn|Rodyn]] 21:12, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

U have a good eye! I found it too!--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 21:20, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

:Huh? I can't see it... Are you talking about that pink thing standing with all the Pokémon at the left? Because if so, it's poor quality but it looks more like a Jigglypuff. Did I miss something? --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|electAbuzzzz]] ([[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|TALK]]) 21:52, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, and the head shape can't be a Jiggly--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 21:54, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

:Well, it's too big to be Mew. This video is very low quality, if someone could look on the DVD maybe it would clarify it. But I really doubt a Mew cameo would go unnoticed for almost a decade... --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|electAbuzzzz]] ([[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|TALK]]) 21:58, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

No it definitely is Mew--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 22:04, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Sorry guys, its Jiggly. I have it on tape. plus, its to big to be Mew! and look at those eyes! [[User:Mooites|Mooites]] 22:37, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

NO, look @ the LEFT Side. That head can't b Jigglypuff's!--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 22:39, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

:Kuki, if a guy with a tape says it's Jiggly, than it's Jiggly. Surely he didn't just MISS the left one. It definitely looks like Jiggly to me. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|electAbuzzzz]] ([[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|TALK]]) 22:49, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

The pink @ the right is Jiggly--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 22:49, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

:I know. They both are. This argument is silly. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|electAbuzzzz]] ([[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|TALK]]) 22:51, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Pause it. Look @ the head ahapre of the left pink Poké. Get bak to me--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 22:53, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

:Yeah... I forgot to specify specifically where it was. Like Kuki said, it's on the left of the screen, RIGHT next to the Venusaur. [[User:Rodyn|Rodyn]] 22:58, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
::Ugh. When you say low-quality, you ''mean'' low-quality.
::Anyway, I saw a Cubone that could probably be mistaken for Mew. At least, at that resolution. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 23:09, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Martonimos has a point. And Mew can move around in the air, so y would it b standing with Pokémon who can't?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 23:13, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
:An easter egg, I'm assuming. [[User:Rodyn|Rodyn]] 23:15, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

::I ''know'' which one you meant, Rodyn. It's still a Jiggly. Not a Mew. They both are. I'm repeating myself here. And Kuki, don't change other people's comments, even if they're badly worded. This isn't the first time you're doing this. --[[User:ElectAbuzzzz|electAbuzzzz]] ([[User talk:ElectAbuzzzz|TALK]]) 23:16, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
:::I'm pretty sure they're talking about the thing I think is Cubone, man.
:::By the way, I assume you're talking about what happens around 8:10 in that video (so nobody else has to watch the whole frakkin' thing to find it)? And I'd also like to add that there are two of the Cubone/Mew thing; one on the left near Venasaur, and one on the right near Parasect, nearly hidden by the edge of the cliff. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 23:18, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Ah, yeah, now that I've looked at it for about 5 minutes straight, I can see the round shape to it. Definitely a Jigglypuff. And here I thought I found some hidden easter egg that almost no one discovered... [[User:Rodyn|Rodyn]] 23:25, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

But what about the Cubone/Mew?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 23:34, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
:That's what I'm referring to. And I tossed out a lot of my movies, Pokémon ones included, a few months ago to clear space. So it's unlikely I'll be able to get to double-check first-hand. [[User:Rodyn|Rodyn]] 23:39, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
Its CUBONE! I just re-watched it on tape and paused it to look closeley. You can see it's little eye holes. sorry, it did look like Jiggly to me at first.. so CUBONE! [[User:Mooites|Mooites]] 02:02, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
:It is cubone.You can see the Skull and the eye holes[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|DCM]]
Itdefinitly isn't Mew. It is either Cubone or Jigglypuff. More likely Cubone, as it can't swim nor fly, unlike the other two.[[User:Nintendofan146B|Nintendofan146B]] 20:15, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

== ''Charizard'' ==

So, apparently it aired just before Charizard Chills. I don't remember Charizard being disobediant in the movie. Does this mean that Charizard cared more about the fate of the world than it cared about Ash (at least at the time), so it was willing to get off its lazy *** and help Ash get to Ice Island; or does it mean that they pulled a Mewtwo's Counterattack in Japan again - releasing the movie before where it actually belongs? For those who don't know what I mean, in Japan, Mewtwo Strikes Back was released prior to all the Mewtwo Cameos in the anime. Thus the link-ins with the Movie, scenes that we all saw before the movie came out, such as Gary losing to Mewtwo or Mewtwo destroying the Rocket HQ near Pallet Town, actually appeared in Japan after they appeared in the movie, thus pointing out that the movie's events happened at a later time than at the release episode in Japan.

What does this mean towards Revelation Lugia? Did the Japanese version spoil Charizard's obedience to Ash as seen in Charizard Chills, or was this simply a case of Charizard deciding that he's not apathetic enough to allow the world to die while he sleeps (hey, if Team Rocket was ready to help the Twerp, than I guess Charizard could too, if it meant he could sleep in a still existing world). What do you think? [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 04:11, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

That makes since to me. [[User:Ayla|Ayla]] 21:07, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
:What makes sense? [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 23:12, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
::''"...a case of Charizard deciding that he's not apathetic enough to allow the world to die while he sleeps (hey, if Team Rocket was ready to help the Twerp, than I guess Charizard could too, if it meant he could sleep in a still existing world)."''
That. [[User:Ayla|Ayla]] 00:38, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
:Yeah, it does make sense. I would tend to support that opinion, considering that Mewtwo Strikes Back is seemingly the only Movie released prior to its placing in the anime, and this is the only possible reference to it being after ''Charizard Chills''. [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 05:29, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

I agree with [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] and [[User:Ayla|Ayla]] here's why:

Point 1:
If you watch during the intro the trio decides to release their Pokemon for some fresh air before they reach their destination. This was ultimately a plot device to allow them to showcase the Pokemon, yet if you watch closely, when Ash releases Charizard he shoots a flame in all directions and Ash and Misty both freak out right before Ash recalls Charizard. This is a familiar scenario played out over and over again throughout the Anime prior to Charizard Chills. Frequently Ash would call Charizard, he would immediately shoot a flame thrower (often at Ash) then Ash would think twice and recall him.

Point 2:
Charizard has shown that he would do things that benefit Ash, if Charizard wants to. The most obvious example being defeating Magmar and enabling Ash to win the Volcano badge for the Indigo League. On top of that, as has been noted, all of the Pokemon were converging to try and help stop the world catastrophe if they could. I believe it is clear that it is for this reason that Charizard seems more helpful then would be expected prior to Charizard Chills.

Point 3:
I could be wrong on this one, but I'm pretty sure that Ash never once commands Charizard to do anything (at least not on screen). There are two points where Charizard preforms a helpful act:
1) Charizard is released simultaneously with Squirtle and Bulbasaur. All 3 of them (plus Pikachu) try to break Moltres free, but Ash never actually asked any of them to do anything but to "go".
2) The second act is pulling Ash's sleigh, where once again no command was given. Ash looks at the wrecked boat, then suddenly they are already moving quickly. Obviously Charizard must have been cooperative or Ash would have never gotten a rope tied around him, but still we never directly see him "obeying Ash" which is what Charizard never once did prior to Charizard Chills.

Based on these 3 points there is no doubt in my mind that this move takes place prior to Charizard Chills and since it was released between the episodes Bound For Trouble and Charizard Chills that this should be it's place in the time line. ~[[User:Dinner4JC|Dinner4JC]] 13:30, 03 November 2008 (UTC)

==Corsola==

Hello, I think I saw a Corsola in this movie. During the segment involving "The Guardian's Song", there is a part where all the Pokemon are swimming under the Beast of the Sea, and I thought I saw a Corsola on the Gyrados' head, can anyone clarify it for me? - {{u|Robbie Newton}}
:Post your talk sections at the bottom of the list. Also, timestamp your posts with the four tildes (~), rather than just putting your username. That said, I highly doubt that Corsola was in the movie, and you probably had a similar moment to where I ''thought'' I saw Delibird in ''Holiday Hi-Jinx.'' It's easy to mistake watching back at old movies and episodes after you've seen the new Pokémon, because your may mind associate the new Pokémon in the same grouping as the old. That said, GenII Pokémon did start showing in the VERY FIRST EPISODE, so it is POSSIBLE, though IMPROBABLE, that you saw right. Good luck on the confirmation. [[User:Kumori Satosuke|Satosuke]] 04:20, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
: OK, watched it on DVD and I was mistaken, it was just the way they had drawn the fin on top of Gyarados' head. [[User:RobbieNewton|RobbieNewton]] 14:20, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

== Pokemon thee Movie 2000 ==

Where i live it's called "Pokemon the Movie 2000" Should that be mentioned? ([[User:GT4GTR|GT4GTR]] 02:28, 16 December 2008 (UTC))
:The alternate title is mentioned...in the first line of the article. [[User:Lucentas|Lucentas]] 02:39, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

== Pikachu/ Latias ==

''Pikachu becomes the second Pokémon to steal Ash's hat in the film, and Ash behaves similarly to the way he did in Primeape Goes Bananas. '''However, when Latias steals his hat in Pokémon Heroes, Ash behaves in a more mature and friendly manner.''''' Does this last statement really belong here? This is three movies before Pokémon Heroes takes place! [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 00:46, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness

2009-01-25T23:22:57Z

Kiryu: /* Deleting data */

== Riolu ==

Why was this pokemon rejected in pre-development? [[User:Wimmah|Wimmah]] 04:59, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
:If we knew it would've been up there. I myself find it pretty weird, especially keeping a rather non-mascottish Pokémon like Skitty instead of introducing Riolu.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 05:21, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
::Was Riolu really confirmed to be a starter Pokémon? I thought people were just assuming. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 14:57, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
:::Yeah, I thought it was just fan guessing. Do any materials actually back this up? --[[User:Zeta|Zeta]] 05:23, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
::::No Riolu is not a starter Pokémon but rather a version exclusive. You can check out {{p|Riolu}} for more details. [[User:Pikachu25|Pikachu25]] 19:10, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::We know that. This is about the (apparently false) claim that Riolu was going to be one but the developers changed their mind during development. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 19:25, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

== Release ==
I thought that (according to Bulbanews) that this game had been released. Why has this page not been updated? [[User:Shiny_Giratina]] 01:27, 9 October 2007

It's not coming out here til June? Oh man ([[User:GT4GTR|--●[[User:GT4GTR|'''GT4GTR''']] [[User talk:GT4GTR|''/ talk /'']]]] 01:01, 23 April 2008 (UTC))

== Event Pokémon ==
I don't under stand why some legendaries need a WM code to access. Also, it doesn't make a lot of sense to have to hold an item to get a lot of legendaries. And, without WM, you cannot get all 3 legendary birds.
:I don't understand why you can't get Arceus normally without an AR or an event. See. It's legendary. You're not supposed to find them as easily as Rattata and stuff. Geez. {{ani|281}}[[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Sandbox|☆]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Favorites|♥]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]][http://freewebs.com/thepixelcafe δ]{{MS|281s}} 00:34, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

The Seven Trasures? Code only places shouldn't be a setback for you. You obviously have the internet, and the codes are right on the article, what are you complaining about? And Arceus and Shaymin aren't in the game, at least, not in the USA. I think it was because Arceus and Shaymin haven't been officaly released here yet. And the search with the Secret Slab/Mystery part isn't that hard, is it? It isn't like the first game, where everyone except Mew and the Regis had thier own dungon.[[User:Pipoleon|Pip]] 20:47, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

== Dungeons ==

Should the dungeon list be moved to [[Pokémon World (Mystery Dungeon)]]? That article fills the role for the first game and I assume it is the same world, if a different continent. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 20:43, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

I think it's the same island with a different time period, but that's just me. But yeah, I think the dungeons should be moved out of here. --[[User:Jonouchi|Ricco]] 23:17, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

:I don't think they're the same island. Look at the maps of the two (if you can find them) While they show some similarites, they don't look too much alike. --[[User:Chimchar007|Chimchar007]] 05:20, 08 April 2008 (UTC)

== Sheimi and Arceus ==

So you've dug into the coding and found neither? {{ani|493}}'''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|Optimus35, to be exact...>.>;;;</nowiki>">Optimatum]]</sc>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]{{{1|09:41 10 Mar 2008}}}'''
:The DS card format makes it possible to add more data later, so I'm not too worried about it.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 12:05, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Mabye the didn't add them to the game for a good reason, like, hackers would be able to Recruit Arceus and Shaymin if they did... --[[User:Regi Trainer|Regi Trainer]] Friday, March 14, 2008

== difference? ==

Whats the difference between the two versions?Darkmaster0 02:24, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Version-Exclusive Pokémon. [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 18:58, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

There are a couple of version-exclusive items. [[User:InuMimi|InuMimi]] 10:37, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

InuMimi is right. There are version-exclusive items, like the Vile Seed in Time, and the Violent Seed in Darkness. [[User:SharKing|SharKing]] 19:36, 31 August 2008 (UTC)SharKing

== Game Exclusive Pokemon ==

Can someone whith the japanese games make a list of the game exclusive pokemon.--[[User:23-03-33|Tommy]] 18:24, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
:[[Version-exclusive Pokémon#Time and Darkness|We already have that.]] --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] [[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|T]]-[[Special:Contributions/Fabu-Vinny|C]]-[[User:Fabu-Vinny/Sandbox|S]] 19:49, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

== No Shekachu? ==

Making Pikachu male only? You think it wouldn't be so hard to come up with a 16th nature for the game. Especially since there's 25 in the 'normal' Pokémon games.{{unsigned|Chikoquil}}
:It's not such a big deal. They probably just didn't want to deal with the triviality of removing maybe two pixels from Pikachu's tail. Besides, with Skitty it balances out as each sex having an exclusive Pokémon.--[[User:Urutapu|Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？]] ([[User talk:Urutapu|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Urutapu|contribs]]) 02:44, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
::Well, even so, don't you think that maybe they could have put the male tag on something that females are far less likely to want to be? Like Munchlax, for example? --[[User:Chikoquil|Chikoquil]] 18:05, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
::: They have gender differences in game, actually. Part of the differences are certain stats are raised in certain genders. Ex: Male Pikachus have a higher critical-hit rate. Female Pikachus have a higher evasion rate. --[[User:Chimchar007|Chimchar007]] 05:12, 08 April 2008 (UTC)
:::: And it turns out that a Pokémon Attitude (Hasty) was left out, so it IS possible to get Female Pikachu and Male Skitty. I took the liberty of updating the list. --[[User:Chikoquil|Chikoquil]] 23:36, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
:::::It's true; I'm a girl and I'm a Pikachu. Yes the personality is hasty. [[User:ShinyPachirisu|ShinyPachirisu]] 01:52, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

==Description==

Is this nessesary to add?If so ,this is odd to copy from the offical website,becausue of the copyright..[[User:Izayoi|Izayoi]] 07:23, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

==Stoneplate/Enigma Part==
Does anyone know where I can find them?'''[[User:CoolPikachu!|Cool]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|Pikachu]][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|!]]'''

:Certain prospect missions let you find one. You can also get them as rewards from generated wonder mails. I'll post the link for the generator when I find it. [[User:ShinyPachirisu|ShinyPachirisu]] 20:09, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

== Boss order is all wrong... ==

Im playing the game and i noted the boss list is all wrong

# Zubat and Koffing
# Drowzee
# Groudon (Fake)
# Luxio (Multiple) and Luxray
# Spiritomb <=======
# Kabutops and Omastar (2) <=====
# Dusknoir and Sableye (Multiple) <=======
# Primal Dialga <=========
# Uxie <========
# Mesprit

The pointed bosses i never fought, and i played until defeating mesprit, so i think the list is wrong, someone fix it or tell me how i can fight the pointed bosses.

[[User:Andre Zoio|Andre Zoio]] 16:05, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

:That's odd...there's not many walkthroughs up right now, but I'll see if I can find anything pertaining to the bosses. Thanks for pointing out the inconsistency, though. --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 16:47, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

::Now i broke grovyle's face and he isnt listed as a boss, i think i will make a new list myself...
[[User:Andre Zoio|Andre Zoio]] 21:20, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Well If you guys need help with the bosses I can help you I beat the story mode in the English PMD2 [[User:Happizelpom|Happizelpom]] 04:58, 29 April 2008 (UTC)Happizelpom

I have played this game plenty of times and here is a list of the bosses in order that they are battled prior to beating the main story line:

1. Zubat & Koffing 
2. Drowzee 
3. Groudon (Fake) 
4. 8 Luxio + 1 Luxray 
5. Mesprit (Note 1) 
6. Groovyle 
7. Spiritomb (in future) 
8. Kabutops & Omastar Brothers) 
9. Dusknoir + 6 Sableye 
10. Primal Dialga (Note 1 & 2) 

Note 1: You can recruit Boss #5 & #10 after beating Primal Dialga. (they are both 100% recruit rate.) 
Note 2: You battle regular Dialga the second time around.

[[User:drichard08|drichard08]]

==Gender==
Isn't gender new In this game?I know it was in the last version but they show gender more in this verison. '''[[User:CoolPikachu!|Cool]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|Pikachu]][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|!]]'''

I've noticed. Because there are now certain species of Pokémon that have different evolutions depending on the gender (i.e Female Burmy evolves into Wormadam, Male evolves into Mothim), gender is becoming an important factor.[[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 19:34, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Plus also, if the pokemon have gender differences in Pokemon Diamond and Pokemon Pearl (i.e. female Pikachu has a heart-shaped tail, female Venusaur has a yellow seed in her back) you will see those in this game. [[User:drichard08|drichard08]]

==Wonder Mail Code==
Should the code @54#T36MJ93PWQM&F&8T7QFX be added it from if you text Dungeon at _______ it'll reply and give that code and the mission is to rescue a Charizard '''[[User:CoolPikachu!|Cool]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|Pikachu]][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|!]]'''

:that is just a mission to get almost free reviver seeds
[[User:Andre Zoio|Andre Zoio]] 23:22, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

::Yeah I know(as of like days ago..)'''[[User:CoolPikachu!|Cool]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|Pikachu]][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|!]]'''

===New W.C===
Pokemon.com are realseing W.Codes from to today to May,8th
Here's todays:Butterfree Mission:N04K +HCW &TF&
7M16 KHMH FR@% '''[[User:CoolPikachu!|Cool]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|Pikachu]][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|!]]'''

May 6,Beedril: lCQ-R Y369 6&W3
P28P 3NXM @&W9 '''[[User:CoolPikachu!|Cool]][[User talk:CoolPikachu!|Pikachu]][[Special:Contributions/CoolPikachu!|!]]'''

== Australian Release Date ==

Come On! Does Anyone know when it comes out in Australia? All the other regions are there but Australia's blank. {{Unsigned|GT4GTR}}
:Korea is still blank. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 13:11, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

==Skitty==
"Skitty - *: These Pokémon may not be selected as a partner." O RLY? I had her as a partner on my NDS before. That's not true that Skilly cannot be selected as a partner. - [[User:Jerzy232|Jerzy232]] 11:42, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Was that on Blue Rescue Team? Because I never see any of the Odd ones out (Non-Starters) in the partner list... [[User:Pipoleon|Pip]] 20:56, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

The only way that you can have a normal type in the original team, you have to become that pokemon. the Normal Types (Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Explorers) and the Normal/Fighting/Ground types (Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Blue/Red Rescue team) cannot be chosen as partners. If you want to use those types as partner in dungeons, you have to recruit them, then after you beat Rayquaza (Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Red/Blue) or Graduate from the Guild (Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Explorers), then you can change them around. [[User:drichard08|drichard08]]

==Correction/Codes==
Shouldn't a page be made with just wonder mail codes? And I corrected the "Unknown Code" section. [[User:Pipoleon|Pip]] 11:22, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Are you talking about the Pokémon {{p|Unown}}? 'Cause that's how it's spelled. [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 14:30, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

No, I was referring to the section that didn't know what dungeons the pokemon went to that were only in the Seven Treasure Dungons[[User:Pipoleon|Pip]] 20:38, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh. Thanks for clearing that up! [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 20:42, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Some of the Pokemon.com event codes are no longer availible there. Anyone up for adding them to the list here? [[User:Sailorleo|Sailorleo]] 13:31, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

== Plot Summary ==
Shouldn't the plot be moved somewhere else or is it fine the way it is? [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 14:28, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
:Shrinking it would be ideal. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 15:26, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

That's what I think. It's too large. [[User:BlueJirachi|BlueJirachi]] 15:31, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
:Yeah, it needs to be shrunk, or moved to a new page. If moved, then we can make a shorter summary and make a link to the page with the detailed plot. =/ The article is ''42 kilobytes long''! - [[User:SpontaneousCombusken|spontaneous'''Combusken''']] 03:50, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
::So, [[Brock]] is about 48... ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 03:53, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

==IQ Skills==

Whatever happened to Super Mobile? It was fun busting through walls and walking on any surface. All Terrain Hiker still allows for walking on all surfaces, but the walls crashing before your mighty jelly bean fueled brain was fun... [[User:Pipoleon|Pip]] 21:10, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

:'''Super Mobile''' (re-named '''Absolute Mover''') is still an available IQ Skill in PMD:T&D, however it can only be obtained by {{p|Palkia}}. [http://www.serebii.net/dungeon2/iqskills/J.shtml] (However as the info I have is from Serebii.net, I won't claim it as 100% accurate)- [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] '''|''' 19:51, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
::There are many twelve ranks of IQ in PMD2, labelled A to L. Absolute Mover is in two of these ranks. Most of the starters are unable to get Absolute Mover as they all don't have the right rank. Ranks tend to be constant through an evolution line.'''[[User:Optimus35|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''11:04 15 Aug 2008'''''

== Hero/Partner ==

Is the same hero/partner post-story relatoinship problem from the first game still there, or did they fix it so that the hero and partner still remember eachother (you know, there was the problem where the partner and hero become just any other pokemon of their respective species, kinda depressing)? Either way, we should mention it.
:What do you mean? Way I see it, Grovyle and PMD1's partner and the hero got turned back into a human. Soon, the Time Accident turned him back into a Pokémon. Still...WTF? This is completely useless. -asks for deletion- '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''08:48 4 Jul 2008'''''

::What he's referring to is how at the end of Pokémon on Fushigi Dungeon 1, the game treated the player and partner as if they were just more generic pokémon. The post-game plot ignores them entirely, the current team leader is the oen that goes into town, not the player, and you could even permanently delete the player pokémon from the Rescue Team.

::And to answer the question, the player and partner remain special pokémon in the postgame of Pokémon no Fushigi Dungeon 2, the plot continues to focus on them, and they are the only pokémon that can go out into Treasure Town. [[User:Sailorleo|Sailorleo]] 19:59, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

== Music? ==

The music for this game is awesome, just like MD1. But is there any music/track info for it though? --[[User:Kohei|Pizza]][[User talk:Kohei|man]] 16:20, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

I agree. I've been trying to find the soundtracks but no luck yet. I hope someone uploads them sometime...or if they're ever avalible for purchase, i'd buy them for sure. [[User talk:InuMimi|InuMimi]] 10:43, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

I've seen one around online, but I'm not sure if it's a rip of the game or an actual soundtrack release, though. [[User:Sailorleo|Sailorleo]] 20:50, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

(drakonezduskmoon) i've been wondering the exact same thing. I'd really like to stop having to release Dialga just to hear that cool battle music >_<

== Legends in Multiple Dungeons ==
i know that there are some legendary Pokémon like Mewtwo that are found in more then one dungeon. Mewtwo is found at Dark Crater and Aegis Cave. Does that mean you can recruit more than one Mewtwo? [[User talk:InuMimi|InuMimi]] 10:47, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
:I doubt there are five Darkrai. [[User:Gligar|'''Gli''']][[User talk:Gligar|'''gar''']] 19:27, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

== Version Exclusives: Celebi/Mewtwo ==

Like the other version exclusives, is it possible to recruit these Pokémon in the games they are not found in? If it isn't shouldn't it be noted in the article that it is only possible to recruit these legendaries in their respective versions? --☆[[User:Woodland Mudkip|Woodland:M]] ☆ 11:37, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
:While there isn't a known code, if you connect to Nintendo Wi-Fi before September 1st, you'll unlock missions for both legendaries, as well as the missions for the [[Mystery Part]] and [[Secret Slab]]. Source- [http://www.pokemon.com/#dungeon2_15 http://www.pokemon.com/#dungeon2_15] --[[User:KinCryos|KinCryos]] 18:10, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
::It should be noted that these were not recruit-reward missions. As far as I can tell at this time, it is still impossible to actually recruit the cross-version exclusive pokémon. [[User:Sailorleo|Sailorleo]] 20:44, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

== Art ==
Is the art going to be put on the pokémons pages? Its the most up to date artwork Bar Platinum.--[[User:David aipom|Davidaipom]] 19:22, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

== Foomta? ==

What is the Foom-Ta expression that wigglytuff says?
[[User:Atomix26|Atomix26]] 23:53, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

:I don't know. Maybe it's just something the creators thought would be cute for it to say? --'''[[User:InuMimi|いぬ]][[User talk:InuMimi|みみ]]''' 16:45, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
Actually it is YOOM-TAH! Plus it is a sort of battle cry. [[User:Liz0910]]

== Proposal ==

Assuming I spelt it right, how about instead of that storyline filling up the whole page, how about a separate page for it at "Pokémon Mystery Dungeon 2/Storyline"? Like the movies. '''[[User:Optimatum|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]] 04:37, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

== Legendaries ==

So do legendaries always join your party after defeating them if you have space in the party?(assuming you can recruit them at the time) [[User:Atomix26|Atomix26]] 21:50, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
:No, they don't always join you if you have space. Like any other Pokémon, it can take a few tries for it to join your Exploration Team. - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] '''|''' 21:54, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

There are some legendaries that join your team after you battle them after beating Primal Dialga if you go to the dungeon they are in (Hint: the leader of the team doesn't have to deliver the final blow, it will still join you if you partner delivers the final blow. An example would be Dialga, because only you and your partner can go there.) the legendaries are: 1. Uxie (Location: Steam Cave) 2. Mesprit (Location: Underground Lake) 3. Azelf (Location: Crystal Lake) 4. Dialga (Location: Temporal Tower) 5. Regigigas (Location: Aegis Cave) 6. Palkia (Location: Spacial Rift) There does not need to be enough room in the party to recruit, they just ask to join, say yes, give nickname (if you like) and it will automatically go to Chimecho Assembly. Remember, these legendaries are found at the end of the dungeons mentioned.[[User:drichard08|drichard08]]

== Deleting data ==

''"This is the third game to feature the player having to delete the saved data before starting a new game, '''with the first two being Pokémon Mystery Dungeon and Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Versions."'''''
That last bit isn't true- Diamond and Pearl do not require you to delete your saved data. I don't want to start a revert war so I pointed this out first. [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 23:21, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness

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Talk:Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time and Explorers of Darkness

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Talk:Lugia (M02)

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==Page move==

We already saw [[Silver (Whirl Islands)|another Lugia]] in the anime, so thus, the fact that this Lugia was under "anime" would be confusing.--CosmosShipper

: It's under a Different name, But either ways, It wouldn't matter --[[User:Force Fire|Force Fire]] 12:26, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

:: Speaking of Silver, I added in that the Lugia in this article was briefly mentioned by James and Ash encountered Silver for the first time. [[User:Weedle Mchairybug|Weedle Mchairybug]] 23:56, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

== Gender ==

I don't think Lugia's gender should be "none" since it's unknown if genderless Pokemon apply in the anime, and therefore, not 100% confirmed. In fact i think it's very unlikely that it's genderless since there was a female (mother) Lugia in the series, so it should be "Unknown" ([[User:GT4GTR|GT4GTR]] 11:11, 16 June 2008 (UTC))
:The problem is that anyone coming here seeking information on Lugia might see "unknown" and thing they can breed their Lugia. unless it is confirmed otherwise we should go on the information we have on its species and that information says that Lugia has no gender. lord mada 12:19, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::I understand what you mean but to me, "none" means they don't have the ability to breed. Of course there are Pokémon like Solrock and Ditto that are genderless but they can only reproduce their own species with another Ditto. Lugia can't breed with Ditto. Unknown is more accurate because another Lugia is shown to be able to breed. Plus, we have no idea how genders work in the animé.
I originally came to this talk page to ask why Lugia from the 2nd movie isn't considered male when Entei from the 3rd movie is. Both this Lugia and Entei have a male voice. Mewtwo also has a distinctive male voice but people seem to get upset when anyone calls him male. I personally believe all 3 Pokémon are male but if Entei is considered male because of his voice and Mewtwo and Lugia are considered unknown gender, i think something needs to be changed. --'''[[User:InuMimi|いぬ]][[User talk:InuMimi|みみ]]''' 23:47, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
== Aeroblast?==
how do we know its not hyper beam? --'''[[User:Mooites|Mooites]]''' [[User talk:Mooites|Talk to me, baby!]] 23:50, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
:looks like hyper beam to me----[[User:Ultamatecharizard|Ultamate]][[User Talk:Ultamatecharizard|Charizard]] 22:41, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
::There's no proof that it's Aeroblast unless someone actually ASKS Nintendo or whoever made the movie. If you're going to leave Aeroblast there, put a question mark by it. [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 21:22, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Gary Oak

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Should Gary's game data be here or under "Blue_(game)"? --[[User:Meowth346|Meowth346]]

"Gary has an attitude of catch first, ask questions later, as seen in It's Mr. Mime Time."

I recall hearing this in the dub; is it a dub only line? --[[User:Paperfairy|Paperfairy]]

== Gary's Electabuzz? ==

How do we know that his Electivire evolved from Electabuzz? Where's the proof? --[[Special:Contributions/Kenji-girl|☆]][[Tracey Sketchit|ケンジ]][[User:Kenji-girl|ガール]] 05:36, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
:well the only way to get an electrivire is to evolve a electabbuzz by tradin with electrizer but im not sure if it applies to the anime [[User:Ritchie|Ritchie]]

Old comment!--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 22:05, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
::And obviously, Evolving in the anime is WAY different that in games. Slopoke -> SLowbro for example.--[[User:Taviource|Tavis]][[User talk:Taviource|ource]] 22:08, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

== about his pokemon... ==

Look, I know the Jr. novelizations of pokemon aren't exactly canon with the pokemon series and all that, but didn't they mention Gary also having a Charizard and a Venusaur in addition to his Blastoise in the book "Stage fight"? I mean, sure, that book might not have been canon (It mentioned Ash's Pidgeot still being under his command despite his releasing it right after it evolved and defeated Fearow), but shouldn't it at least be worth noting in at least the Trivia section? just wondering.

~~Weedle Mchairybug~~

:If we note that, then we'd also have to note the Charizard he toted in the Robot Chicken sketch "Pikachu Secret", from the episode {{wp|Cracked China}}. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 21:44, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

::Those books were basically authorized fanfiction. It's non-canon, so it shouldn't be mentioned. --[[User:PAK Man|PAK Man]] [[User talk:PAK Man|Talk]] 23:09, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

== Gary's Status ==
I remember that Gary used to be a trainer, but he stop to be a pokemon researcher, I'm not sure which region, but here was even in Pokemon Housou/ Chronicles as such, shouldn't his status change from trainer to professor or something? - [[User:Gaiden|Gaiden]] 03:24, 07 October 2007 (UTC)
:Technically now he's not yet Professor Oak the younger, because he hasn't been seen to get whatever one needs... and has no labcoat. He's on his way... but I don't think he's a professor yet. '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:45, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
:I don't that he is a Rivel of Ash anymore , I think that Paul is more of Rivel than Gary.
[[User:Pokemon157|Pokemon157]] 5:34, 08 October 2007
::Paul's more of an asshat than Gary now, yes, but Gary and Ash are still rivals, though on more friendly terms. '''[[User:TTEchidna|TTE]][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:15, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

== Temporary ==

Do we really need the temporary section in the page? This is Gary we're talking about, not Max. [[Image:Ani448MS.gif]][[User:Jmath|'''Jmath''']][[Image:Ani447MS.gif]][[User talk:Jmath|'''Talk''']][[Image:Ani448MS.gif]] 17:53, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

:He didn't keep the {{p|Hoothoot}}, {{p|Aerodactyl}}, or {{p|Shieldon}}. Thus, we need that Temporary section. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 18:05, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
::Its just like Max. He just befriended them and he never caught them. Hoothoot was just rented. That doesn't mean you own it. [[Image:Ani448MS.gif]][[User:Jmath|'''Jmath''']][[Image:Ani447MS.gif]][[User talk:Jmath|'''Talk''']][[Image:Ani448MS.gif]] 18:15, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

== Gary's Appearance ==
I'm not sure if this is valid but, aside from the fact that he has the same voice actor, but he also wears the same clothing as the video game, in the Kanto series of Pokemon he wore the same thing or at least a strong look-a-like of his game counterpart, in the rest of the series (from the point of Pokemon: FireRed and LeafGreen) Gary changes to a black shirt and purple pants, I believe that ever since that time and the fact that his character was not designed to wear new clothing, that he still looks the way he is in Diamond and Pearl Series

Also, Ash, Brock and Misty changes their clothing during each arc, this is just something i felt i need to being to notice, if you already know this sorry. - [[User:Gaiden|Gaiden]] 07:23, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
:Yeah. Gary's design during the Gen I/II era of the anime (AKA, the [[original series]] in its entirety) was based off of {{ga|Blue}}'s Red/Blue art. During the Gen III/IV era (the [[Advance Generation series|Advance Generation]] and [[Diamond & Pearl series]]), his design's based off of Blue's FireRed/LeafGreen art. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 04:34, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

When did Gary wear a kimono? [[User:Mooites|Mooites]] 17:56, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

When the original trio was looking for a place to stay in Season 1 but... I 4get wich eppy!--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 17:57, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

:''[[EP058|Riddle Me This]]'' if I remember correctly. Let me just check. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 18:01, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
::yep ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 18:04, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Where'd u find it?--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 18:05, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
:I just pulled the episode out of storage and watched it to see if it was correct. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 18:11, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

== Houndoom? ==

When did Gary get a Houndoom?[[User:Darth Cookie Monster|'''C ''']] [[User talk:Darth Cookie Monster|'''Is''']] [[User:Darth Cookie Monster/My Story|'''for Cookie''']]
:Well according to [http://www.serebii.net/anime/characters/gary.shtml here,] he never batteled with it, but it was seen on a computer with his profile in [[EP269|The Ties that Bind]]. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 20:53, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

== Edit ==

Could a mod please change the [[EP001]] in trivia to [[EP001|Pokémon, I Choose You!]]? [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 17:56, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

== Trivia question ==

Seeing as May's Eevee has evolved, should it really be mentioned as a counterpart to Gary's Umbreon? If a Pokémon is really needed for the sake of comparison, might I suggest adding her Wartortle to the part mentioning Gary's Blastoise and Ash's Squirtle? [[User:Eeveeman133|Eeveeman133]] 18:32, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
:It might have been a counterpart, but May hasn't actually ever met Gary...so, I don't think it would be. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 19:09, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

== Dodrio==
How do we know Dodrio is in storage or not on hand? SinceIts last appearance it hasnt been comented on so we dont know where it is, maybe status unknown?--[[User:David aipom|''David Aipom'']] [[User talk:David aipom|(Speaks To Me):] Sonic Electronic]] 20:26, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

== Badges==
According to EP063, Gary says that he has 10 badges. He shows his badge case to Ash, and it clearly shows 10 badges. Change the number? [[User:Forretress205|Forretress205 ]] 21:28, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
:That means he got 4 more badges after EP025. Not 4 in total! [[User:Jmath|'''Jm''']][[User talk:Jmath|'''a''']][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|'''th''']] 21:31, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

== EP013 ==

EP013 shows the images of all of Gary's caught Pokémon on the background screen. If anyone knows what I'm talking about, please post. [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 20:49, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
:As far as I can remember only Gary's Krabby was shown. [[User:Jmath|'''Jm''']][[User talk:Jmath|'''a''']][[Special:Contributions/Jmath|'''th''']] 20:52, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
::See here: [[Image:Bill.jpg]] More than JUST Krabby... [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 20:52, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Those aren't Gary's Pokémon. That's just Bill describing the known Pokémon. Gary wasn't even mentioned in this part. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 20:55, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
:::As you can see, the are in Pokédex order. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 20:57, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
::::I'm REALLY sure that there was a time where he was talking about the amount Gary had in comparison to the amount Ash had (7)... [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 20:58, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::Yeah, when he was talking to Professor Oak. I remember this seen. A list of all 150 (though I don't know how its possible because no one knew about Dragonite or Mewtwo) flashed on the screen when Bill was talking about how there could be many more. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 21:00, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::Oh... [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 21:01, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Actually, they DID know about Dragonite, that scene with the giant Dragonite was just because it was enormous, not because they didn't know what it was. If they didn't know about Dragonite, then how could the guy in the Orange League have one?(Moot point, but still.)[[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 20:35, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Core series/Archive 1

2009-01-25T20:27:41Z

Kiryu: /* The system */

==Routes==

I'm not so sure that a Gen V game ''has'' to start its Route numbering system from 301 just because Hoenn and Sinnoh use a similar method. A Gen V or so game could actually link two previously known regions. There are still Routes 47-100 and Routes 135-200 still unaccounted for. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 15:19, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

:Indeed. Not only is there no precedent or fundamental reason to believe it will be the case, the contrary is more likely to occur. Hoenn and Sinnoh are based on Kyushu and Hokkaido, respectively, which are the only islands in Japan - other than Honshu - arguably big enough to be adapted as regions. By this I am suggesting that Generation V is more likely to revisit Honshu, of which there are plenty of as-yet unexplored territories. If that were to happen, the numbering system would no doubt pick up from Route 47, regardless of whether Kanto or Johto were included in the game.

:Some might also argue that Shikoku, which is another Japanese island, is not too small to serve as the basis of a new region. Supposing that they had a point, the numbering system would still be likely to pick up either from Route 47 or Route 135, due to Shikoku's proximity to both Honshu (in particular the area encompassed in Johto) and Kyushu.

:Those are really the only possibilities involving Japan, and the pattern does suggest that Generation V will be based there. It is important to remember that the transition to Hoenn and then to Sinnoh entailed exploring new territories far enough from previous regions. Now that both Hoenn and Sinnoh are familiar places, that can no longer be done within Japan. -[[User:Unown Lord|Unown Lord]] 13:01, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
::I think it's more to discourage people from being "LOL JOTOE IZ IN RUBBY N SAFIRE" and "LOL HOEN IZ IN DAIMIND N PERL". Though I do agree, they could go and hit whatever's north of Kanto and Johto next time around... the problem would be whether or not to link back to those two or not to. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:08, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

:::They should just go ahead and create a 3-D console game like the Orre series and have all the known game regions present. At least the main series regions. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 19:19, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

==Pikachu==
The article mentions Pikachu and Raichu being in Generation Five's regional dex, because it has been like that in all previous generations. What about the evolutionary lines of {{p|Geodude}}, {{p|Abra}}, {{p|Zubat}} (minus {{p|Crobat}}), {{p|Machop}}, {{p|Psyduck}}, and {{p|Goldeen}}? They've all been present in every game, so why not mention them too? --[[User:Goukazaru|Nostalgia]] 17:55, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

:I think only Pikachu is mentioned because it's the "mascot" of the series. It has more of a probability of being in the next game. Then again, {{p|Magikarp}} and {{p|Tentacool}} are also mentioned... ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 18:20, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
::If the next Generation of Pokémon games didn't have the Pikachu family in them I don't think anyone would buy them!- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] ([[User talk:Taromon777|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Taromon777|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''
:::of course they would buy them. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 18:29, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
== Eeveelutions? ==

Is it possible that 2 new eeveelutions will be introduced when you consider Gen II and IV both introduced 2 new eeveelutions each (Espeon & Umbreon and Leafeon and Glaceon)?[[User:BlueGasMask|BlueGasMask]] 01:25, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
:what about Gen III? none. so, no. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 01:27, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
::If we see new ones in Gen V, I'd bet on a couple more in Gen VI, but until we have a pattern we ought not. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 04:31, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
:::If the Eeveelutions "pattern" continued in Gen V, then we would either see no new Eeveelutions (Gen II added 2, Gen III added none, Gen IV added 2) or only a Dragon-type Eeveelution (as all of Eevee's current evolved forms are types that were considered "Special" prior to Gen IV; technically, however, this would break the pattern, as only 1 new "Special"-type would be introduced, rather than the usual 2). Hopefully they will begin to create Eeveelutions based off of the types that were previously "Physical"; I'd really like to see a Steel, Fighting, or Ghost-type Eeveelution (Bug...not so much). [[User:Diachronos|Diachronos]] 16:01, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
::::If they do invent new Eeveelutions I dread to think how unimaginative their names will be! There will probably be a Dragon-type one called Drageon or something. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Taromon777|Taromon777]] ([[User talk:Taromon777|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Taromon777|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''

==Generation V==
Scince today there was the hinting of Generation V Pokémon, should a Generation V article be made to confirm the release of more to the story? ----digletdude
:That's what I'm thinking. We might need to start one out. [[User:Toastypk|'''''~Toastypk''''']] - [[User_Talk:Toastypk|'''Loom.''']] 21:30, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
::I was about to say the same thing...I just realized it.--[[Bulbapedia:Project Custom Sprite|☆]][[User:Tavisource|Tavis]][[User talk:Tavisource|ource]] 03:32, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
::: Maybe no now, we have to wait. [[User:Joshuamanimtim2|K.J.Boring]] 05:09, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
:::: We need an article for it, for sure, but there is no information whatsoever ''about'' it. At this point, all it'd be is speculation, which is rather pointless in the grand scheme of things. Either speculation or a couple of sentences about the picture.--[[User:Goukazaru|Nostalgia]] 03:13, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
::::: Well, I for one, say that we wait untill this 'new' Pokémon actually makes its debut --[[User:Manga-in-a-bottle|Manga-in-a-bottle]] 03:19, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
:Or ,maybe just redirect? If that doesn't happen already, that is. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Smarter than the average bear!]] 10:32, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::Turns out to be pichu, guess we dont need a generation V article after all. ----digletdude
:::::::And I had it all prepared, too. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 19:19, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

<big>YAY, I LOVE PICHU MORE THEN EVER NOW,</big> if they started introducing gen 5, it would seriously limit chacnes of GSDS.

SO PICHU WE LOVE YOU!! --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]
:That was my main worry too! I was so relieved when I found out it was Pichu! Although, it seems strange that they'd block out this Pichu unless it was of importance. Perhaps its Ash's Pikachu's child! [[User:Gastlys mama|Gastlys mama]] 17:46, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

That would be brilliant. [s]And he could give it to me.[/s] And it could know Volt Tackle and then go with Ash's Pikachu to use Double Volt Tackle killing off Arceus.

But what I think it is, is remember Dialga controls time, so could end up taking Ash and gang to the past. So maybe its Ash's Pikachu as a Pichu. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]

No, anime is Pokémon's biggest marketing tool and Pichu was a Gen II Pokémon. I have a funny feeling the GSDS is on the way. But those ear markings are odd, like its Pichu's other form . -- [[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 21:46, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Y cant our points both be correct. Its Ash's Pikachu as a Pichu, and they are using it to advertise GSDS. --[[User:Guardian|Guardian]][[Special:Contributions/Guardian| of]][[User talk:Guardian| Earth]] |[[GSDS|SGMS 2010]]

I guess so. Either way, its still very mysterious. -- [[User:Clarky13|'''Clarky''']][[User talk:Clarky13|'''13''']] 23:51, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

==The system==
In the article it states that the games of the new generation came out on the newest Nintendo handheld system. considering that the DSi is coming out soon, should this rapid the chances of Gen 5 coming out sooner, or delaying it waiting for the next, next handheld system like we waited for the DS Lite handheld? Ths proves that the new Gen did not came out on the next Handheld sytem-or did I read it wrong...[[User:Pyles|Pyles]] 22:42, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
:Most people don't interpret the DSi as a new system, simply another upgrade to the DS. We don't even know if there'll be DSi-exclusive games yet; if so, they'd probably only be so for using the camera or something, not because they're too powerful for a vanilla DS. --[[User:Martonimos|Marton]]([[wp:Chanukah|I'm Jewish]])[[User talk:Martonimos|imos]] 22:44, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
::Like, they didn't create a new Pokémon game for the Game Boy SP, the games that came out after it(FrLg and Emerald) wer for the GBA. The same is going to go for the DS and the DSi. [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 20:27, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

== Quality of this article ==

Isn't good. It isn't up to any standard of quality. It reads more like an editorial or some other kind of opinion piece than an encyclopedic one. Given that, what can we do to fix it? I think we can only really say that nothing has been announced, yet. -- '''[[User:evkl|evkl]]''' [[User_talk:evkl|(need to talk?)]] 05:55, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Player character

2009-01-25T05:55:42Z

Kiryu: /* Michael and What's his name... */

I suggest merge of [[Player character]] and [[Rival]], as well as categorisation according to the game instead of the Region. Also, I believe Pokemon Ranger characters should be added as main characters, considering that Pokemon Ranger is actually a main Pokemon Game.

Anyone have the Emerald sprite of May? [[Image:Ani373MS.gif|{{{2|373}}}]][[Image:Ani094MS.gif|{{{2|094}}}]][[Image:Ani474MS.gif|{{{2|474}}}]][[User:Porygon-Z|'''Porygon-Z''']][[Image:Ani025MS.gif|{{{2|025}}}]][[Image:Ani441MS.gif|{{{2|441}}}]][[Image:Ani130MS.gif|{{{2|130}}}]] 14:12, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
:And again that request is made. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 03:59, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

== Re-write? ==

Does anyone else think this article needs a re-write? [[User:PDL|PDL]] 03:14, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
:Do you have a reason? [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 02:03, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
:It seems kinda... messy. It's not that hard really explain how a player character works in a video game. [[User:PDL|PDL]] 02:50, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

== Backsprites ==

I was thinking that we could take a page from the Pokémon pages and find the backsprites of the player characters as well as the partner characters (like Steven and Buck).--[[User:MisterE13|MisterE13]] 03:05, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

== Mentioning of Player in Mystery Dungeon? ==

There's not really much more to say... [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 01:36, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
:Or the player in Trozei (being the user him/herself). Or in any of the other games, for that matter. What about Snap? I feel like this should be a stub. [[User:Jazzmoth|Jazzmoth]] 05:16, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
::Actually, the player in Trozei (or Link, as we call it over here) is [[Lucy Fleetfoot]]. [[User:Flicky|Fli]][[User talk:Flicky|cky]][[User:Flicky/Latin|1991]] 17:59, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
:::And that's a stub, if I've ever seen one. [[User:Jazzmoth|Jazzmoth]] 02:07, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

== *COUGH* ==

Why do we need backsprites?--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[Quilava (Pokémon)|Racer''']] [[User talk:RexRacer|'''''-talk''''']] 02:34, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
:We have them for Pokémon. So why not characters.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 02:54, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
::Because it made the page wayyy to big. Maybe if we didn't just have one, but all of those broken links look just awful.--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[Quilava (Pokémon)|Racer''']] [[User talk:RexRacer|'''''-talk''''']] 02:58, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
:::We could resize them. We also have broken links on the Pokémon pages IMHO, it just lets someone know that the images should be created.--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 03:01, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
::::Resize? Eww. Only one Pokémon even does that, and it's Deoxys. Perhaps I'll do a hack of the sprite template that'll allow for it. Or you can. I dunno. Yeah. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 09:07, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::I might be able to. what exactly do you mean?--[[User:MisterE13|Mister]][[User talk:MisterE13|'''E''']][[Special:Contributions/MisterE13|13]] 21:38, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

== Michael and What's his name... ==

What about side game characters? [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 03:52, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
:Lunick, Solana, the players in PMD, yeah they should go here. And if they do, the part about being remarkably silent doesn't apply to PMD.[[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 05:55, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Talk:MissingNo./Archive 1

2009-01-24T21:42:18Z

Kiryu: /* Old Man */ new section

If I remember correct MissingNo doesn't have a standard TM/HM set...- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Arty2|Arty2]] ([[User talk:Arty2|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Arty2|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''

Ehem. If MISSINGNO has a hex, it has a HM/TM list as well, asigned to the HEX. WHEEE

Darkmewham2!

I am also unsure about the validity of the HM/TM list and for its base stats too. In my opinion these values are semi-random, depending on the memory part that affects its appearence. Maybe someone can run some research on that? On and please don't come up with another "if it has a hex" line again... --[[User:Arty2|Arty2]] 20:00, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

I added more TMs to the list, as seen on [http://www.trsrockin.com/missingno7.html]. They did extensive research into such glitches as Missingno., and came up with that TM and HM list. --[[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] 10:53, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

== Hex codes for fossil/ghost ==

Do you think this page should include the hex codes and letters for the special Missingno. sprites? Kabutops fossil is 86 (lowercase w), Aerodactyl is 87 (lower x), and Ghost is 88 (lower y). --{{ani|250}}[[User:Fsilone|隼也
]]{{ani|249}}[[Special:Contributions/Fsilone|じゅんや]] 16:55, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

== Either missingno. or some other glitch somehow did permanent damage to my Red. ==

The bit in a rom storing the color pallete for GBC/GBA/Super Game Boy was somehow modified, and so my game has screwed up colors. Does anyone know how it's even possible for this value to be modified? I assumed it was hardcoded. Also, is there a gameshark code I could use that will correct this value? --[[User:1338h4x|1338h4x]] 23:36, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

:Does it affect the entire game? Or only happen when your game is loaded? [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 02:17, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
::The whole game, no matter how many times I erase data. Aside from the strange colors though, the rest of the game functions fine. --[[User:1338h4x|1338h4x]] 23:41, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
:::Well, that's strange. I always thought the default GBC colors were coded into the system. Maybe it depends on the game. --[[User:Libertyernie|Libertyernie]] 19:36, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
::::If you press buttons while the GBC is booting up, you can change the palette. I take it this defines a set handful of colors for the game to draw upon, each one assigned to a value. --[[User:1338h4x|1338h4x]] 00:58, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

== Power Plant coast? ==
Is it possible in Pokémon Red & Blue to catch Missingno. or other non-water Pokémon on the coast near the Power Plant rather than the Cinnabar coast? I broke my Blue (by foolishly using a Game Genie) so I can't test it out. --[[User:Libertyernie|Libertyernie]] 19:36, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
:I doubt it. The reason the missingno glitch occurs is that Cinnabar has no Pokemon defined for surf encounters, despite the existance of one stip of water, the coast. As such, the variable for encounters is set at whatever it was last, like the safari zone. Old Man's weedle is either M or Missingno, I forget which. Your other encounters are determined by your name, since that's where the game chooses to store the string while replacing your name with OLD MAN. --[[User:1338h4x|1338h4x]] 00:58, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

==DP Missingno.?==
I've seen that video on YouTube before, and I figured that it needed mentioning here in Missingno.'s article, since it has the similar appearance. Anyway, does anyone have DP who's tried the glitch who can give a firsthand account? [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 13:06, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

yes get AR use the wild pokemon modifier toss 493 master balls then will come

[[User:Timer|Timer]] 22:05, 17 November 2008 (UTC) [[User:Timer]]

==MissingNo. in the Japanese green verison?==

Does MissingNo. appear in the Japanese green verison? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Asukagirl|Asukagirl]] ([[User talk:Asukagirl|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Asukagirl|contribs]]).
:Far as I know it does. Our Blue was based off Green's wild Pokémon, so if it's there in Blue, it's there in Green. [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 03:21, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

==Remember the old rumors?==

I remember back in the day, like... eight years ago? Anyhow, I remember the stories that were circulating around GameFAQs and Pokemon fansites about... well, this and other things, but this one especially. I remember the best being that if you see missingno., you needed to immediately kill it to prevent your game from being fried. I dunno about you guys, but since this was before the internet was really huge, I start selling people khangaskans. Never hurt me, except I lost a file on my Red once. But I had like, ninty kangaskans, so I would trade them to other kids for like, twenty bucks. I was rolling in dough for several weeks. It was great.

==Seafoam Islands==

Why isn't the fact that MissingNo. can also be found at Seafoam Island mentioned here? Even Pokemon.com mentioned this fact once when they mentioned the Safari Zone glitch. Of coarse, they did make a mistake when they said that MissingNo. can appear if you preform the Safari Zone Glitch and not the MissingNo. glitch itself. I'd like to add that part to this article, however, I won't until someone else agrees with me on this issue or better yet, adds it themselves. --[[User:Jake|Jake]] 19:49, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

I think it's not in here because you can't find Missingno. at Seafoam Island. Yes, its coast has the same programming error as Cinnibar, but you can't get to Seafoam Island directly from Viridian like you can with Cinnibar. You have to SURF from Fuchsia or Cinnibar, and entering a route with wild Pokemon during the glitch process effectively nullifies it. [[User:Fsilone|Fsilone]] 02:32, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
:You can. Routes 19 and 20 only have data for Pokémon found while surfing. No grass. Grass data is used for the coasts. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 02:58, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

== Spacety space space ==

Note there is an extra space in front of the Ghost Missingno.'s name. Compare it to the regular. Thought I'd give a mention. [[User:TinaTheKirlia|TinaTheKirlia]] 22:26, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
:...you're right... huh. Odd, because MISSINGNO. is the ten-char limit... '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 06:15, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

== Missingno. or MissingNo.? ==

Seriously? '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 05:23, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
:How can we ever really tell? I mean, all names in the games are in capitals, and Missingno. is not an official character, so there's no references or published stuff to check it against... --[[User:DarkfireTaimatsu|DarkfireTaimatsu]] 05:27, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
::That's my question, what was so wrong about leaving it as Missingno.?
::As for references, well... we COULD ask Nintendo their stance on the name... I've had Insomniac answer more meaningless questions. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 09:41, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
::: I've seen an email by Nintendo about Missingno... and I've pretty sure they spelled it "MissingNo.". (Not that I spell it that way, haha.) [[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|The]][[Kirlia (Pokémon)|Kirlia]] [[Image:281MS.gif]] 15:47, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

I dont think it really is a glitch, really! [[Image:Ani491MS.gif]][[User:Kpokefan|K]][[User Talk:Kpokefan|P]][[Darkrai (Pokémon)|F]][[User:Kpokefan/Cal|☆]] 16:49, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
Um. But it IS a glitch. o.o; {{ani|281}}[[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Sandbox|☆]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Favorites|♥]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]][http://freewebs.com/thepixelcafe δ]{{ani|282}} 18:31, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
:Actually, Nintendo spells it "MissingNO". Notice the lack of a period. I think they just emphasize the last two letters in an attempt to dissuade players from going after it. I think its name is rightfully Missingno., and that the page should be moved to reflect this. If nobody objects, I will do it. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 20:02, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
::I would suggest sticking with Missingno. as well, similar to how we use Hoothoot instead of HootHoot. The period is pretty much mandatory too, as the games clearly show that it has one (and the abbreviation "no." always has it). [[User:IIMarckus|IIMarckus]] 21:09, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
:::Flawless logic if ever I heard it. Alrighty, then! If there are no objections, then the move will be effected immediately. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 21:13, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

== Mewtwo? ==

if you look closely at it, its pixels will somehow look like mewtwo, at least for me.
hey your right --[[User:Glatra|Glatra]] 00:55, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

I noticed that in the square block version of MissingNo. Very interesting. [[User:Animine|Animine]] 22:31, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
:You both are seeing things. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:06, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

== Other forms? ==

Can someone upload sprites of Missingno.'s other forms? You know, the ghost (and the Wild MISSINGNO. appeared! screenshot doesn't count), the Aerodactyl skeleton, and the Kabutops skeleton? I'd do it myself, if I knew how. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] 23:57, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

PLEASE??? Without them, the page just doesn't seem complete. [[User:Missingno. Master|???]] 21:44, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

== In the anime ==

OK, whose bright idea was it to completely erase the "in the anime" section??? --
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| style="background: #FFFFFF; color: #000;" | <center>[[Glitch Pokémon]] and [[Pokémon|Official Pokémon]]
----
There is no real difference between the two. In [[User:Missingno. Master|my]] opinion, the two [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|should be considered equal]]!

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</center>
|} 01:40, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Because, seriously, Missingno. didn't appeared in the anime. Those were ghosts created by Ghastly which was strong enough to confuse Ash's Pokedex. Does Ghastly have a move that can instantly create a Missingno. in the games? I don't think so. >_> [[Image:Ani026MS.gif]][[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]][[Image:Ani392MS.gif]]

Does it have a move that can create ghosts instantly? Didn't think so. Besides, why do you assume Gastly created them? For all we know, it could be its minions.
{| border="1" style="border: 3px solid #FF0000; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: right;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="6" width="25%"
| style="background: #FFFFFF; color: #000;" | <center>[[Glitch Pokémon]] and [[Pokémon|Official Pokémon]]
----
There is no real difference between the two. In [[User:Missingno. Master|my]] opinion, the two [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|should be considered equal]]!

[[Image:000.png]]
</center>
|} 01:47, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

:Because, my dear Wattson, the skull ghosts were gathered there and turned into Gastly. Apparently, at the same time, the lady disappeared. '''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|{{tt|Optimatum♏|Optimus35}}]]</sc>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]Hi''' 04:35, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

== The Japanese name ==
Do Ketsuban come from the kana within the old japanese games? Because, a "ketsuban" is a kind of annoying moskito wich dwells in lakes and rivers. I'm mentioning this because this "non-pokemon" uses some water and "flying" attacks, wich perhaps are related to being that moskito. Someone get this? --[[User:Alamos|Gaudhi]] 20:05, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

It means Missing Number, actually...but that is a cool thing to bring up. [[User:Guy2]] 10:29, July 8, 2008

== ARGH ==

Missingno =/= real Pokémon. It's basic only purpose is filler data. e____e [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 20:56, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Can you prove it? Are you absolutely positively sure?!?!!?{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 20:57, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
:Yes, I'm sure. It's only obtainable through a glitch, you can't get it from events, it didn't appear in later games under the name of Missingno., (Others are dubbed Missingno, however they are not, they are more minor filler data), etc. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 21:00, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
::Are you absolutely sure that Missingno will never appear in the anime?!!!? Are you sure that the writers won't decide to put it in an episode?!!!!? Are you sure???!!? Did you write the storyline of the Pokémon Anime Series?!!!!! NO.{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 21:11, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Did ''you'' write the anime? [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 21:12, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
:Oh.....Toché....lol...--'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 21:15, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

== Argh #2 ==

We... we really need a page protect for this page. e_e [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 21:03, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

:....I'm telling Sketchies right now.....--'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 21:08, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Why would this page need protecting? Just leave the Biology section and stuff alone, and we have no problem! --
''[[Glitch Pokémon|Glitch]] and [[Pokémon|Official]] Pokémon. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|should be considered equal]]!-- quoted by {{u|Missingno. Master}}
 21:10, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
:The biology section isn't needed, though. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 21:11, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
:Also, can't you see the fairly-obvious revert war going on? That's why I want a protection request. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 21:11, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
::That would slow down Project Glitchdex.{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 21:12, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
:::It'd stop this horrible revert war, though. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 21:13, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
::::Sketchies is doing it as we speak....--'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 21:14, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

No, you know what? I'LL stop this horrible revert war. I'll stop reverting the darn thing, OK? *waves white flag of defeat* --
''[[Glitch Pokémon|Glitch]] and [[Pokémon|Official]] Pokémon. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|should be considered equal]]!-- quoted by {{u|Missingno. Master}}
 21:14, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Uh... *waves another white flag in defeat as well* Who knows.{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 21:15, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

What's the Glitchdex? [[Image:Ani413MS.gif]][[User:Agggron|Agggron]] ([[User_talk:Agggron|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Agggron|Edits]])[[Image:Ani412MS.gif]]

[[Bulbapedia:Project GlitchDex]] This. --
''[[Glitch Pokémon|Glitch]] and [[Pokémon|Official]] Pokémon. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|should be considered equal]]!-- quoted by {{u|Missingno. Master}}
 21:17, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

I think Theryguy said that he was doing it as we speak to scare us to quit.{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 21:18, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

I was gonna quit anyway. A few relatively pointless sections aren't worth it. --
''[[Glitch Pokémon|Glitch]] and [[Pokémon|Official]] Pokémon. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|should be considered equal]]!-- quoted by {{u|Missingno. Master}}
 21:21, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

:Yea...about that....we kinda have a problem....Sketchies doesn't know how to protect a page.....so when the next admin is on Aim, I'll tell them to portect it.....--'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 21:23, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

WHY??? I already said I'd stop the stupid revert war! --
''[[Glitch Pokémon|Glitch]] and [[Pokémon|Official]] Pokémon. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|should be considered equal]]!-- quoted by {{u|Missingno. Master}}
 21:25, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

:NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! {{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 21:25, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

And if this page is protected, as mentioned above, [[Bulbapedia:Project GlitchDex|Project GlitchDex]] will be slowed down considerably! --
''[[Glitch Pokémon|Glitch]] and [[Pokémon|Official]] Pokémon. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|should be considered equal]]!-- quoted by {{u|Missingno. Master}}
 21:26, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Because MissingNo. is like the main Glitch.{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 21:27, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

:Well, LOL, I'm '''''teaching''''' Sketchies how to protect a page, it may take a while.....--'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 21:37, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
:Finally, it's protected.....--'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 21:39, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
::Not from me. But I'm not gonna do anything.{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 21:43, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Nope nevermind. I guess fourth time's a charm.{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 21:46, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

WHY DID YOU HAVE IT PROTECTED??? I must've said a million times I'd stop reverting it! Is my word worth NOTHING????!?--
''[[Glitch Pokémon|Glitch]] and [[Pokémon|Official]] Pokémon. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|should be considered equal]]!-- quoted by {{u|Missingno. Master}}
 21:48, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
:I think Sketchies thinks that it is nothing. And that's my word too!{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 21:49, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
::Don't yell at Sketchies, yell at me. I was the one who told him to protect it. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 21:54, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Then I redirect that comment at you.{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 21:55, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
::::This is fricking loony. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 03:29, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Okay, just looking back through history, I personally have no qualms with what Missingno. Master was adding to the page, I didn't see any thing wrong with it. What WAS so wrong with it? [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]][[Image:Ani202MS.gif|32px]] 03:39, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:Missingno. isn't really a Pokémon.. it doesn't have gender differences, it doesn't need a Biology section, etc... [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 03:41, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

It's a glitch Pokémon, it's there, it's in the game, you can not deny that. There is no problem in having biology for glitch Pokémon, because they are still actual Pokémon. What do you have against game location of Missingno.? Or it's special abilities? There is no problem with them being there. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]][[Image:Ani202MS.gif|32px]] 03:47, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:Nintendo does not consider it a Pokémon, and consensus seems to be that we don't either. We don't need a "gender differences" section for a (glitch) Pokémon that has no gender. The info in the "Special abilities" section repeated what is said in [[Rare Candy cheat]], as did "Habitat". [[Image:Ani201QuMS.gif]] '''<code>[[User:Abwayax|abwayax]] ([[User talk:Abwayax|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Abwayax|c]])</code>''' [[Image:Ani201ExMS.gif]] 03:52, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

True, but that is a more detailed explanation, where as the one Missingno. Master was putting was just simple. If people wanted more information, they could just scroll up/down the page. Yes, Ninetendo doesn't consider it a Pokémon, but the fact of the matter is that t's in the game, and it CAN be used in battle. That's at least a bit of a Pokémon, no? (Also, just make this page unprotected, as there won't be any more reverts, that's already been said) [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]][[Image:Ani202MS.gif|32px]] 03:59, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:Which is why it has battle data. It needs no other data because it has no dex entry, never appeared outside of Red and Green/Blue, and was never intended to be FOUND. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 04:09, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
::I don't think the protection is going to last very long, though. MM agreed to stop edit warring, and as mentioned before it's locking the article from good-faith contributors. [[Image:Ani201QuMS.gif]] '''<code>[[User:Abwayax|abwayax]] ([[User talk:Abwayax|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Abwayax|c]])</code>''' [[Image:Ani201ExMS.gif]] 04:08, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:::I still think that it's pointless. I originally gave it a Project Pokédex-like infobox BECAUSE IT HAD SOME DATA. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 04:09, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
This is ridiculous. The page does not need to be protected. Seriously, can somebody UNprotect this thing? --
''[[Glitch Pokémon|Glitch]] and [[Pokémon|Official]] Pokémon. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|should be considered equal]]!-- quoted by {{u|Missingno. Master}}
 16:03, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
:Um. If you would like to edit this page, ask the admins.{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 16:05, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
My point is, though, it shouldn't have been protected in the first place. --
''[[Glitch Pokémon|Glitch]] and [[Pokémon|Official]] Pokémon. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|should be considered equal]]!-- quoted by {{u|Missingno. Master}}
 12:47, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
The article has been unprotected. If there is anymore nonsense, I WILL protect it again. Is that understood? -[[User:Sketchies|Sketchies]] 21:26, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, yeah. I STILL think this article should have the Biology and whatnot sections. I mean to say, come on, [['M]]'s article has it! Why not MissingNo.? And speaking of which, why do we capitalize the second "n"? I always seen it spelled "Missingno.". --
''[[Glitch Pokémon]]. [[Pokémon|Official Pokémon]]. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|should be considered equal]]!-- quoted by {{u|Missingno. Master}}
 12:21, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
:Dude, NO GLITCHES should have the Biology, Habit, Game Data, Special Abilities, Behavior, Gender Differences, and whatnot! --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 14:53, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
::I don't see why not. It makes the articles look better, more professional. --
''[[Glitch Pokémon]]. [[Pokémon|Official Pokémon]]. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two should be considered equal!-- quoted by [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno]][[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|.]] [[User:Missingno. Master|Master]]
 15:15, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
:No, it does not! Glitches are NOT REAL POKÉMON!!! --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 15:24, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
:Calm down there, guy. I wouldn't be suprised if half of you Bulbapedians died of high blood pressure related deseases.--[[User:Cjhard|Cjhard]] 08:14, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
::...do you, like, get a kick out of reviving four-and-a-half-month-old conversations? Because, you know... this conversation is four-and-a-half months old. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 08:16, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

== I can't believe I have to do this AGAIN ==

Seriously. Is it that hard to reach a mature discussion? Revert wars solve nothing. Talk things out here. I don't want to have to protect this again. Have I made myself clear? -[[User:Sketchies|Sketchies]] 15:36, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
:Missigno. Master, Glitches ARE NOT REAL Pokémon! So that's why we don't make glitch pages look like real Pokémon pages, because they're not. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 15:37, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
This doesn't have to do with that, it has to do with displaying the sprites like SPRITES! I made a mistake in putting the sprites in the gallery box, it made them too big. And I think Glitch Pokémon should be considered real! They can battle, they have stats, they have sprites, they can learn attacks via TM (and HM in some cases), and they have cries! If those characteristics don't qualify them as Pokémon, I don't know what does. Did you ever actually read the quote in my sig? --
''[[Glitch Pokémon]]. [[Pokémon|Official Pokémon]]. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two should be considered equal!-- quoted by [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno]][[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|.]] [[User:Missingno. Master|Master]]
 15:43, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
:....Sigh....Glitches are just placeholders......and they are combined of little tid-bits of real Pokémon, but they themselves are not real...--'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 15:56, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Ignoring the last comment, I'd also like to say, WHY was the messy Details section put back? I cleaned up the article by putting half the information in Trivia, and getting rid of everything else, which had been stated elsewhere in the article, and it was reverted shortly before the article got protected! What's up? --
''[[Glitch Pokémon]]. [[Pokémon|Official Pokémon]]. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two should be considered equal!-- quoted by [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno]][[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|.]] [[User:Missingno. Master|Master]]
 19:01, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Whats a 'Revert war'?[[image:ani025MS.gif]][[User:No.1fan|Sonic]] [[User talk:No.1fan|Pikachu]] [[user:no.1fan/mission|RTP]]|[[user:no.1fan/reasons|1#fan]] [[image:ani155MS.gif ]][[image:ani001MS.gif]] 08:11, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

That's when someone makes a change to an article, then someone changes it back, then the first person undoes THAT, so the article is how they had it, and so on and so forth. There's been quite a bit of that going on with this article. Some people disagree with my ideas on how to, for instance, display Missingno.'s different forms. --
''[[Glitch Pokémon]]. [[Pokémon|Official Pokémon]]. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two should be considered equal!-- quoted by [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno]][[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|.]] [[User:Missingno. Master|Master]]
 11:46, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

I agree with misingno. master!
[[User:Crystallucario|CrystalLucario]] 12:48, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
::No, it wasn't a revert war that got it protected again, I '''''asked''''' Sketchies to protect it again. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 15:31, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

2 things. 1, I never said that the revert war DID get the page protected again. 2, WHY did the Details section get put back? What I did was good, and it got reverted. --
''[[Glitch Pokémon]]. [[Pokémon|Official Pokémon]]. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two should be considered equal!-- quoted by [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno]][[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|.]] [[User:Missingno. Master|Master]]
 21:20, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
:MM, are you that obsessed with MissingNo.?{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 21:34, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Am I that obsessed with Missingno., you ask? Well, let's review the facts.

1:
{{Template:User Favorite|000|MissingNo.}}
''THAT'' is on my userpage.

2:
I started [[Bulbapedia:Project GlitchDex|Project GlitchDex]].

3:
[[User:Missingno. Master/Missingno. Master's Missingno.|This.]]

Well, then, yes, I'd have to say I ''AM'' that obsessed with Missingno.. --
''[[Glitch Pokémon]]. [[Pokémon|Official Pokémon]]. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two should be considered equal!-- quoted by [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno]][[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|.]] [[User:Missingno. Master|Master]]
 21:43, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

== So, when's this article going to be unprotected, anyway? ==

I mean, come on. I make an edit I consider constructive, it gets reverted, I re-revert it, thinking that the revert was done in haste, without the reverter thinking about what he/she was doing, it gets re-re-reverted and the article gets protected? COME ON! And for what I sincerely hope to be the final time, WHY was the details section put back? I deleted everything that was mentioned elsewhere in the article, and the rest could be put in Trivia. WHY was it reverted? --
''[[Glitch Pokémon]]. [[Pokémon|Official Pokémon]]. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two should be considered equal!-- quoted by [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno]][[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|.]] [[User:Missingno. Master|Master]]
 00:06, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
: I support Missingno Master on this whole thing. Why can't glitch and regular pokemon be considered as one? Its like spliting black and white people up [[User:PokemonTrainer7738|PokemonTrainer7738]] 21:52, 16 June 2008 (UTC)PokemonTrainer7738
::You are contributing to an old, finished discussion. A glitch IS NOT a Pokémon. End of discussion. Again. -[[User:Sketchies|Sketchies]] 16:35, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

== Missingno and Togetic ==

I remember reading in a book somewhere that the 'orignal' Missingno. (from Red/Blue, NOT YELLOW) could be traded to Pokemon Yellow, and that when traded to Pokemon Yellow, Missingno. (or was it 'M?) would gain the same Pokedex number that Togetic has in the G/S/C Pokedex. I don't know where this info should be put, however, so I've not added the term.

--[[User:Mburusu|M. Burusu]] 05:59, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

You CAN'T add the term. They won't unprotect the page, so only admins can edit it.

:Besides, it's [[3TrainerPoké]], [['M]]'s Yellow counterpart, that bears {{p|Togetic}}'s Pokédex number. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 01:50, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

== Delete? ==

why is this page going to be deleted? I can't see the reasons. =S please someone tell me! '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 01:17, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
:It's not up for deletion, the redundant infobox you put on it is up for deletion, hence, the deletion tag. We already have a Glitch Pokémon infobox. Aside from that, I do like what you've done with the page, though. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 01:20, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
::I created that infobox for putting MissingNo.'s japanese name too as every Pokémon. And I also fixed this page to look like other Pokémon pages, 'cause I think MissingNo. is so well-known that needs to be treated like any other. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 01:27, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
:::I agree wholeheartedly, Missingno. DOES need to be considered a real Pokémon. Only problem is, I once tried doing what you did, it got reverted. Not the infobox thing, the whole make-the-page-look-like-the-page-of-a-real-Pokémon thing. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 01:32, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
Well If they revert the page, they should give reasons. After all, MissingNo. is a regular Pokémon for the game's perception. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 01:36, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
:You have a point there. I mean, Missingno. has a sprite, a cry, stats, attacks.... Anything that meets those requirements ought to be considered a Pokémon, wouldn't you say? I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 10:46, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
::Maybe a new infobox for Glitch Pokémon to solve your problems. I mean, over 20 glitches is hard to organize, no?'''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''10:49 19 Jun 2008'''''
:::Or maybe we could take the obvious way and ask someone to edit the existing infobox. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 10:50, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
::::Sorry I thought MissingNo. was the only gltch that has a japanese name. If the other ones have, then let's add it. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 01:10, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::Actually, I have no idea if any other Glitch Pokémon has a known japanese name. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 01:12, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
:''I mean, Missingno. has a sprite, a cry, stats, attacks.... '' Missingno. has a name that indicates an error message and a cry that is the default one at its shortest length. Sprite, stats, and attacks are ''not'' relevant, because those aren't really a sprite or stats or attacks -- they're seemingly random data, not physically defined for Missingno. itself. Missingno. is not a full-fledged "Pokemon." A beta Pokemon, perhaps. Filler data, more likely. But not an actual Pokemon. [[User:IIMarckus|IIMarckus]] 02:29, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
::''Sprite stats and attacks are not relevent...'' Yes they are! Stop being desperate and admit Missingno Master + Hfc2x have the better point! [[User:PokemonTrainer7738|PokemonTrainer7738]] 15:16, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
:::I'm saying that ''Missingno.'''s sprite and stats and attacks are not relevant because they're not really sprites, stats, or attacks. Is that hard to understand? [[User:IIMarckus|IIMarckus]] 21:14, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
::::MissingNo. has stats, sprite and cry like every Pokémon, because there's no other way to explain why it ALWAYS has the same base stats, the same sprite, the same cry and the same attacks. Yeah, it's a beta-Pokémon, but still a Pokémon. I know that you don't want it to be, 'cause nintendo did never release it as oficial, but the game (and many people) still considers it as a normal Pokémon. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 04:41, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::''there's no other way to explain why it ALWAYS has the same base stats, the same sprite, the same cry and the same attacks.'' Sure there is -- the data is always being pulled from the same location in the ROM, even though that's not its intended use. Missingno's cry is a real cry, its name is a real name, but its sprite is not a sprite, its stats are not stats, and its attacks are not attacks; they're just (incorrectly) being interpreted that way by the game engine. [[User:IIMarckus|IIMarckus]] 22:19, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Oh snap, he's got you there.--[[User:Cjhard|Cjhard]] 08:29, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
:It's the most famous Pokémon. People come here one day and expect to see an article on Missingno. And then they discover-Eh? No Missingno? BULBAPEDIA SUCKS! That's what they'll say. We are an ENCYCLOPEDIA, not a (democracy?) deletion posse. Seriously, new guys appear here and start causing trouble like HELL. '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''09:26 22 Jun 2008'''''
::OK, from what you just said, I can only assume you saw the word delete and assummed that some newbie wanted this article deleted. Couldn't be further from the truth. If you had actually read this section, you'd realize that a user made a new Missingno. Infobox that could incorporate japanese names, and put it on this article, not knowing that I had deemed said infobox redundant and had put a deletion tag on the infobox. The deletion tag then showed up on this page. This section was started to clear the confusion. This page never was up for deletion, the infobox was. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 10:36, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

== relations ==

if u look closely at the sprites of the missingno. u would find that it hs a resemblance to a letter. Ghost:lower part of the body looks like a 'Y'. Aerodactyl: overall skeleton looks like >--< which looks like 'X'.Kabutops : upper body (chest) looks like 'W'. i think this is worth mentioning in the trivia.--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 13:21, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Ummm. No. One persons ideas are not enough to make noteworthy. [[User:Midnight Celtic|Midnight]][[User talk:Midnight Celtic|Celtic]] 13:32, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

but u agree. so if an admin sees my note above he\she might agree and post it at the trivia. but u agree,right?--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 13:42, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

No I don't agree. but yes, I'd happily disregard if an Admin posted it. [[User:Midnight Celtic|Midnight]][[User talk:Midnight Celtic|Celtic]] 13:44, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

just look accurately at it and '''DEEPLY''' and try to remember the shapes and places.--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 13:51, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Okay, I look at it clearly, and '''DEEPLY''' as you say, and on the ghost... I see a Ghost. On the Aerodactyl... I see the skeleton of an Aerodactyl, and on the Kabutops... I see the skeleton of a Kabutops. But again, if an Admin agrees, I'll agree. [[User:Midnight Celtic|Midnight]][[User talk:Midnight Celtic|Celtic]] 23:37, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

== MissingNo. altering save file ==

I saw the article about how "harmless" MissingNo. is to your save file and edited it. I have encountered an altered save file MYSELF. And it had NOTHING to do with my Red cartridge freezing.
After catching MissingNo. I encountered some issues with the Hall of Fame, which didn't bother me, as it's a minor issue and all. The worst of all issues came afterwards. When I loaded my save files and decided to challenge the elite four again - notably with my Mewtwo-Mew Team (the Mew was legitimely mine, as I won a Pokémon quiz), I realized, that only box number 19 had some Pokémon in it. All other boxes where empty. This didn't suit me at all, for my team was made of low-lvl Pokémon that were put in for training purpose only, and my "dream team" was gone, at least most of it.

I'd like you to NOT say the "save file alternation" to be only a rumour, for it really hurts my pride, especially after the loss of my legitimate Mew and the loss of my legendary bird-trio!

:Pokémon Red and Blue are old games. Yours might just be conking out naturally. Don't you dare blame Missingno. for this. If you had captured a Tauros and found that your boxes started to delete themselves, would you have said that Tauros can delete your Pokémon? I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 11:08, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

== STOP THE FIGHTING BY ALL THAT IS SANE! ==

we already know missingno. is a glitch! everyone sane will join me, delete the order of the glitch, and stop everyone from becomeing raveing idiots as bulbapedia falls from top to bottom. STOP THE FIGHTING AND THE MADNESS.[[User:Whatswithalltheextraspace|Whatswithalltheextraspace]] 22:10, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
:What.... did.... you.... just.... say....? You DARE oppose the Order of the Glitch? Well, let me tell you now, it will get you nowhere. You will never halt us in our efforts to promote glitch awareness, to put a stop to glitch bigotry and the segregation between Glitch Pokémon and "official" Pokémon! We will succeed! And when we do, Glitch Pokémon and "official" Pokémon will be considered equal by all! I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 22:26, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

ok.... now you just sound like an evil madman.
if missingno. is "real" then how come it doesnt exsist in any other gen? jynx is considerd racist but wasnt removed. kadabra was sued but still exsists. porygon cauzed seizures and GAINED popularity. no Pokémon was ever removed completely. and missingno. is gone. hes a glitch. face it.[[User:Whatswithalltheextraspace|Whatswithalltheextraspace]] 22:38, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
:''But,'' the fact still remains that Missingno. has stats, a cry, moves, and TM/HM compatibility, and it can be captured in a Poké Ball. All characteristics of Pokémon. Sure, it occured accidentially, but wasn't the creation of bubblegum also an accident? And look how that turned out. I'm sure that in due time, Game Freak will realize their mistake in removing Missingno. and the other Glitch Pokémon. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 22:52, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

true, very true and no it wasnt. i take back what i said. your only half-idiot. you can keep your page as long as you get off this one. i want this page unprotected tina.[[User:Whatswithalltheextraspace|Whatswithalltheextraspace]] 23:00, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

:OK, couple of things;

1: Bubblegum was created when someone was trying to create a new kind of rubber. Hence, accident.

2; Only half-idiot? Thanks... I think.

3; With all due respect, I doubt you have the authority to tell me which pages I can keep and which pages I can or can't access.

4; The MissingNo. article has been unprotected for some time now, and will hopefully remain so. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 00:21, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

what i meant was i will not try to get rid of it.

[[User:Whatswithalltheextraspace|Whatswithalltheextraspace]] 15:58, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

:Boy, no ofense, but you have serious problems. I consider MissingNo. a Pokémon too, and I'm the person who redone this article to look like the other Pokémon. I also REALLY REALLY HATE cheats and cheaters, but I do not oppose that articles like that exist in bulbapedia. Guy this is a Pokémon Encyclopedia and should include EVERYTHING on Pokémon, not only what you want to include. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 01:30, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

::As much as I don't agree with half of what the Order of the Glitch claims or says (like being a secret society despite advertising themselves so much), Missingno is a very important historical event in Pokémon. It may not be an official critter but it has affected the fandom way more than something like the move Splash or even a couple baby Pokemon we really don't care about. This is a Pokémon wiki, and glitch or not, Missingno is still part of this fandom and is the most prominant glitch out there.--[[User:Outrage DD|Outrage DD]] 03:45, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

== Trivia ==

If we talk about its weight and height in the trivia, could we at least talk about what it actually IS? [[User:Ht14|ht14]] 01:55, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
:Missingno actually HAS that data, but it is almost impossible to see because of the Pokédex entry. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 15:56, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

== Should 'Form' be spelled 'Forme"? ==

Just a thought, but shouldn't the forms be listed as "Normal Forme" etc.? If Deoxys was changed, this should be too. --[[User:Alex S.|Alex S.]] 02:10, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
:Deoxys is official. Missingno. was never meant to be seen by the public. It's also not legendary. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:14, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

:No, "forme" is an incorrect spelling caused by a mistaken Japanese scan. Anything that has ever been displayed with that dreadful misspelling will be reverted to the correct "form" spelling. For example, it's "Normal Form", "Attack Form", and the like for Deoxys, "Another Form" and "Origin Form" for Giratina, "Land Form" and "Sky Form" for Shaymin, and so on and so forth. Once Giratina's Origin Form is officially revealed--and it WILL be called "Origin Form"--this whole paranoia will evaporate, this whole "forme" bull**** will blow over, and no damage will be done overall.

:Simply put, "form" is correct, always has been, and always will be regardless of Pokémon. It should not be changed. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 02:16, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
::Not for Deoxys it's not. [http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/2608/formeisrightdh9.jpg See?] '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:23, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

:::A mistake that's easily correctable. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 02:29, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

== 3rd slowest Pokemon ==

"and the third lowest Speed base stat, only losing to Shuckle and Munchlax whom each have a base Speed of 5 each."
However {{pdollar}} has a speed stat of just 2 according to it's page.--[[User:Tails Clock|Tails Clock]] 23:00, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

== Weight? ==

Trivia claims it to be heavier than Groudon (also twice the size of 'M) yet its size and weight is not referenced in the article.--[[User:Outrage DD|Outrage DD]] 03:38, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
Argh noticed the other topic on this, but seriously, how can one claim it to be heavier if they show no proof?

== Missingno. in Green Version? ==

I read somewhere that encountering Missingno. or 'M or any other glitch pokemon in Japanese R/G will freeze the game. Is this true? {{unsigned|Blueapple128}}
:Yep, it is true. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 01:21, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

== Level 100 Missingno. ==
I added that when a Missingno. over level 100 gains battle experience and levels up, it permanently becomes level 100. [[User:LordArceus|LordArceus]] 19:01, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

This is the case for all Pokémon over level 100, and is not limited to Missingno. Also, please use the + button at the top of the page when adding a new talk page section; it helps keep things more organized. [[User:IIMarckus|IIMarckus]] 01:30, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
:Of course, but MissingNo. is the poster Pokémon for glitches. I think the most appropriate place to state that would be here, because it would take an annoyingly long time and be redundant to say it in the article of every Pokémon catchable at over Level 100. [[User:LordArceus|LordArceus]] 17:37, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

This is a lie...
in my pokemon blue version... a LONG time ago... i caught a few missingno.s actually i filled a box for them
then i did the rare candy cheat and raised it one lvl. it became lvl 1 and it was a picture of a pokemon(same as a ryhorn...i think...) then i raised it 100 lvls it became a little boy... 100 more it was a teenage girl i think... 100 more a teenage boy... then 100 more a woman... then 100 more... it was a man... then 100 more... now this was the wierd part... it was a grandpa... then it was a grandma 100 more... then 1 more it was a lvl 1 kangaskhan...
oh
and this was only for the icons and my icons did NOT move...
like
it was the little picture on the side that moves
it changed every 100 rc
and you could only tell the numbers by the numbers on the rare candy...
:P
-DC Out-{{unsigned|Deathcommand}}
:Ridiculous, and look at how much space you wasted. [[User:LordArceus|LordArceus]] 14:22, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
::Sadly, that is not true. Any Pokémon over 100 can go up to Lv 255 and then lower to 1 using rare candies, but battling it reverts to 100. And of course you do realize that we're no noobs and can try it by ourselves anytime right? '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 20:45, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
::Uh, was that directed at me? I'm sorry; I just can't tell. [[User:LordArceus|LordArceus]] 02:59, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
:::No, sorry, not for you =P '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 06:18, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
>_Well, is the main type {{t|Normal}} or {{t|Bird}}? The big box at the right says the main type is Normal, but in all the templates the type colours are reversed as well as they are listed as Bird/Normal in the leading paragraph before the TOC. I'm asking this because inconsistency bugs me. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 16:22, 12 December 2008 (UTC)</s>
:Thanks, {{u|Hfc2x}}, for fixing them. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 20:55, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

== Dietary Habits ==

Um, yeah. I was reading the article and took a glance at the dietary habits of MissingNo.. I'm sorry, but I'd like to see MissingNo. or any other glitch pokemon try to eat pokémon food... However, plese don't take this as an argument... Just thought that maybe that link to the Pokémon Food article should be taken out. [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 00:39, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
:Honestly, the whole section should go. It’s not like Missingno. is a real Pokémon. [[User:IIMarckus|IIMarckus]] 02:07, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
::Yes, Missingno. is a real Pokémon. It's a little something called a [[glitch Pokémon]].--The [[Delibird (Pokémon)|Kk]][[Stantler (Pokémon)|ll]][[Santa Claus|nn]][[User:Kkllnn|ator]] [[User Talk:Kkllnn| サンタクロース]] 02:08, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
:::Missingno. is not a glitch Pokémon, although it has glitchy effects. And neither Missingno. nor glitch Pokémon can really be considered “real Pokémon.” (But please let’s not get into that argument again.) Certainly we can’t say anything about its diet, since it does not have one. [[User:IIMarckus|IIMarckus]] 02:21, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
::::Which is what it says right now. Something about nothing being known. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 02:24, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::It’s not that they’re not known, it’s that there ''aren’t any''. [[User:IIMarckus|IIMarckus]] 02:36, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::Can you prove that? Maybe it eats data. (Is reminded of the Digimon Keramon) [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 02:38, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Well, who knows? Perhaps the writers will decide to make a joke and actually put MissingNo. in the anime. It's not that farfetch'd(poké-pun intended), because multiple fangames have MissingNo. as a pokemon. At least one even made an evolution for it! If that ever happens and the DO put out favorite little glitch box in the anime, then the dietary habits section will be useful. [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 21:23, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

== Old Man ==

Someone told me that if you name yourself "OLD MAN" at the beginning of the game, the game won't need to change your name during the tutorial battle with the Weedle, and therefore you won't be able to find MissingNo. that way. Is this true? [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 21:42, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Talk:MissingNo./Archive 1

2009-01-24T21:23:22Z

Kiryu: /* Dietary Habits */

Talk:Latios (Pokémon)

2009-01-20T05:03:17Z

Kiryu:

why the heck is the mystery dungeon recruit rate listed as 0.1% ??? it joins your party automatically in the storyline, so surely thats 100%? '''[[:User:Origamiguy|折り紙ガイ]] - [[:User_talk:Origamiguy|離す]] [[:Special:Contributions/Origamiguy|貢献]]''' 15:28, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
:That's what's in the game data. I think you can refuse to recruit it at that time and get it later. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 12:08, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
::That's not true. Latios and Latias are one-time only.[[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 05:03, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

== Appear possibility? ==

What is the possibility of catching a Latios without going to that special island (eg: 3000 to 1)? I caught mine in Verdanturf. - ''unsigned comment from [[User:BlueGasMask|BlueGasMask]] ([[User talk:BlueGasMask|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/BlueGasMask|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''
:The possibility is A million to 0. '''[[User:Optimatum|<sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]]|[[User:Optimatum/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''11:46 16 Aug 2008'''''
::In Sapphire (and Emerald if you select red at the TV) it can only be obtained by going to the island or trading. You should even be able to catch Latias in Verdanturf - there's no grass there. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 12:08, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
:::There is no Latias or Latios in Verdanturf in any game. They appear around the grass of Hoenn, you could maybe hack the game and make a grass there. But that's the only way to get a Latios there, I won't give you tips on hacking, not here, maybe on YouTube, but not here. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] 14:13, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

They also appear on the water routes. But yeah, there's no tall grass or water in Verdanturf. ~[[User:SaturnYoshi|'''$aturn''']][[User:SaturnYoshi|'''¥oshi''']] [[User talk:SaturnYoshi|THE VOICES]] 14:40, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I think I meant it was on the route beside it, where you find all the volbeats.[[User:BlueGasMask|BlueGasMask]] 09:57, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
:Then you have Ruby and/or selected blue at the TV in Emerald. In either case, Latias is the one at the island. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 17:21, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Arceus (Pokémon)/Archive 2

2009-01-20T04:59:23Z

Kiryu: /* ???-type Explanation Doesn't Make Sense */

<big><big><big>'''HEY GUYS GUESS WHAT. THE PAGE HAS CODING ON IT SO THAT THE TYPE WILL CHANGE RANDOMLY (or not so much, really just according to the time). DON'T ASK WHY ARCEUS IS A {{UC:{{#switch: {{#expr: {{#time: U}} mod 18}}|0=???|1=Normal|2=Fighting|3=Flying|4=Poison|5=Ground|6=Rock|7=Bug|8=Ghost|9=Steel|10=Fire|11=Water|12=Grass|13=Electric|14=Psychic|15=Ice|16=Dragon|17=Dark}}}}- TYPE! It just IS!'''</big></big></big> (Also keep in mind that it doesn't matter which type it is; you guys are smart, you can tell what moves are STAB for which plate... I hope...)
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==Archives==
*[[/Archive 1|Archive 1]] (discussions from October 13, 2006 – December 13, 2008)

== Hmmm.... ==

Is the color and box from the Tutoring Moveset (I think) supposed to be expanding past the sprite box? I see the Rock type stuff, if that matters. (No, I don't think it is my browser, other Pokémon's pages are still fine) [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 14:13, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
:I have fixed it stop the problem was that he closed the time, not the tutor box stop[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]

==Out of intrest==

Has anyone tried to see if Arceus' ??? type forme is in PBR? [[User:Zsaberslash|Zsaberslash]] 20:52, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
:And possibly in Platinum, as well? In a method other than cheating? --[[User:Bulbapedian|Bulbapedian]] - [[User talk:Bulbapedian|Talk]] 20:55, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

== Picture ==

Instead of fanart
...shouldn't we use something OFFICIAL
even if its just a PBR screenshot, or a sprite
--[[User:LilRed|LilRed]] 00:11, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
:The fanart fulfills our needs best. Besides, the official artwork is only a couple of months away now. --[[User:Fabu-Vinny|FabuVinny]] |[[User talk:Fabu-Vinny|Talk Page]]| 00:32, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
::If they'll release an official artwork of Arceus, does it mean that Arceus is officially released also?[[User:Palkia38|Palkia38]] 06:54, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Yes, this is what it would seem like. It's predicted to be released at a similar time to the next movie. — [[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|THE TROM]] — 06:56, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

== Reveal ==

Looking at Darkrai and Shaymin's, it seems that the reveal will be just around February 14, 2009. Isn't that convenient. So I'd like to notify you all... don't bother with it until then. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:52, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Actually, it is expected to be leaked today, and officially revealed on January 19.--[[User:Mence Master|Mence Master]] 13:47, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

:Listen to the Editor-in-Chief. Don't bother until the reveal. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 13:54, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
== ???-type Explanation Doesn't Make Sense ==

One of our members brought up a good point about the explanation (in this article) about why Nintendo put the ??? Arceus in the game. We think that it was put in because Nintendo's code for Multitype required a sprite to be filled for every single type. This is our best guess, and I certainly think it's more plausible than "preventing game crashes for hackers." Hackers can crash the game quite easily otherwise - why would they prevent it in one way when we can do it in a thousand other ways? Remember, Nintendo doesn't care for or even acknowledge hackers. -[[User:Coolbho3000|Coolbho3000]] 00:33, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
:Following that logic, why put a vestigial Safari Zone in GSC? Why make it harder to access MissingNo in Yellow and impossible in FrLg? Like it or not, Nintendo has put many things in for the purpose of preventing crashes. [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 04:59, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

== Animated sprite. ==

It doesn't change for me. It's just the regular Arceus. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 00:57, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
:you maam are using Internet Explorer. that is an animated .png, which your browser does not support. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 00:59, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
::Don't you think that's a little unfair for people who prefer to user IE? What's wrong with just using a gif file? --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 01:02, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
:::lesser quality. take it up with TTE. -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 01:03, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
:::You should use Firefox. D: -[[User:Sketch|Sketch]] 01:05, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
::::I have used it and I hated it. It made my computer move incredibly slow. --[[Tracey Sketchit|'''ケンジ''']][[User talk:Kenji-girl|'''の''']][[User:Kenji-girl|'''ガール''']] 01:16, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::How many addons did you give it? That's usually what kills it. I mean, mine's running using 118,784K, next most is Windows Explorer with not even 10% of that much. It's a given with the 13 extensions I have for it... Anyway, Opera's most recent release supports anipngs too, or so I've heard. Given, I plan to make ''that'' specific spritecycle a gif again, since the whole point of that is to animate. Other anipngs you don't lose much with them being not animated. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:35, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::Google chrome doesn't accept anipngs, and firefox takes an age to start up for me. I also hate IE. '''{{Colored link|:User:Origamiguy|f80|Lord}} of {{Colored link|:User_talk:Origamiguy|f80|Ori}}{{Colored link|User:Origamiguy/Mudkipz|08f|gami}}''' 11:28, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::: It works on opera just fine, Who uses IE nowadays anyway? And Mozilla's slow.... too slow.--[[User:Force Fire|FF]]([[Special:Contributions/Force Fire|edits]]-[[User talk:Force Fire|talk]]) 11:52, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

== ???-type arceus existance ==

If anyone can hack platinum and try changing arceus' type to ???-type and it appears then its existance is official, anybody care and try?--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 12:22, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
:We have the sprite. That's all the proof you need. '''[[User:Optimatum|Θρtιmαtum]][[User talk:Optimatum|Talk]] 14:01, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

sorry, forgot about that. --[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 14:03, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

== origin ==

there is a legend in arab myths that says that god created a horse from the north wind and it was the frist being on earth, arceus is a horse and the first Pokémon in existance, should we add this to the origin part in the article?--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 13:29, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

User talk:Cipher/2008 Archive

2008-12-24T18:43:11Z

Kiryu: /* Question... */

{{User:Cipher/Talk Template}}
Don't use single-character sort keys. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 01:37, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Just a thought DD, do you want credit for the images you sent me when I upload them? [[User talk:nuva-kal|nuva-kal]] 13:08, 27 June 2007 (BST)

== Shining Darkness ==

Thanks for backing me up. I don't know why it is so hard for people to see the connection between the English and Japanese sets, and why I got such a bad reaction from Pikablu. He hasn't replied, so I seem to have put him in his place. Thanks again! [[User:nuva-kal|nuva-kal]] 18:30, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

== DP4 ==

I think your new method may be the way to go, I certainly didn't anticipate that the English release would be split again, which is why I created the DP4 page the way I did. So I guess the situation will be similar to the e-card series, since DP5 in Japan has two sub-sets again and we will have six sets when this block finishes. So the plan is to have the sets like this as separate pages:

*'''Moonlit Pursuit/Dawn Dash''' in Japanese exclusive
*'''Great Encounters''' in DP era releases
*'''Temple of Anger/Cry of the Mysterious''' in Japanese exclusive
*'''English DP5''' in DP era releases
*'''English DP6''' in DP era releases

With Temple of Anger/Cry of the Mysterious in the same format as your proposed Moonlit Pursuit/Dawn Dash, right? [[User:nuva-kal|nuva-kal]] 14:21, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

== About a recent large edit on one of your pages... ==

That was me bringing in the full list I had put in the {{bp|sandbox}}. This way, nobody has to fumble with that list when it comes time to put the plan into action. I hope you understand. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 18:31, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
:Yup, that's absolutely no problem. :) Both the Moonlit Pursuit/Dawn Dash and new Great Encounters pages will be ready at some point tomorrow - if not, Monday. [[User:Double Dash|Double Dash]] 21:44, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

== {{TCG|Intense Fight in the Destroyed Sky}} ==

I fear a move war may break out over the title's translation. At least one person thinks the title should be "Fierce Fighting in Broken Space", but {{u|Shiny Noctowl}} reverted it without hesitation, citing [[Pokébeach]] (where the original "Moon Hunting" and "Night Dashing" came about). Since you're the expert in sets not yet released in America but will be, can you settle things down before a move war breaks out? Thanks. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 00:07, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
:Oh, hell. IFDS is definitely the most accurate translation; anything else is just fancied-up. Is there any way to protect the page from being moved (at least until we know the English name)? [[User:Double Dash|Cipher]] 07:50, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

== [[Template:TCG Expansions]] ==

{{u|Sunain}}'s actions left me no choice. Any further TCG developments for that infobox will have to go through me or TTEchidna, as will further information for Intense Fight in the Destroyed Sky. I hate to have to inconvenience you like this, but these things happen sometimes. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 21:12, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

Thank you for fixing {{c|Houndour}}, I went ahead and fixed the Houndour in Unseen Forces as well. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 14:58, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
:No problem, happy to help. [[User:Double Dash|Cipher]] 16:06, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
==Mamoswine==
Hey thanks for the mamoswine thing!--[[User:Arceusguy|Arceusguy]] 19:21, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
:Hey, how come?--[[User:Arceusguy|Arceusguy]] 14:27, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
::Oh okay, sorry. So you contribute to Pokebeach? {{Unsigned|Arceusguy}}
:::oh okay thanks for the tip--[[User:Arceusguy|Arceusguy]] 05:24, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

== Signature ==

You know, I think all you do here is great. You're our resident Japanese/English TCG expert, and we'd have some problems without that kind of knowledge. However, despite that, I'm obligated to tell you that, per the signature policy, signing as "Cipher" is inappropriate. Your sig must reflect your usename, so please change it to reflect that. Signing as "DD" would be appropriate... :D --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 20:22, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

:Okay, thanks very much for letting me know. I read in the editor messages that name changes weren't allowed, I guess this is still the case? (Thanks for the compliment too, I really appreciate it.) [[User:Double Dash|Double Dash]] 21:30, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

::This is pretty funny. Now that you've changed your username to Cipher, you've gotta sign as Cipher, not Double Dash! :D --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 21:37, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

:::Am I still signing as Double Dash? [[User:Cipher|Double Dash]] 21:40, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
:::Crap! I'll change that. XD
:::There we go. All better now. =D [[User:Cipher|Cipher]] 21:44, 20 August 2008 (UTC) (See? ^_^)

== Why ==

Why do you put the vertical pipes at the beginning of the templates and infobox coding when they belong at the end of each line? ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 13:41, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

:They don't ''belong'' at the end of each line, they can go either at the start or the end of the line. I edited Wikipedia for a long time before I came here, and that's just how I put infoboxes together. [[User:Double Dash|Double Dash]] 13:44, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
::I guess I only ever saw them at the end, If it doesn't change anything, then I guess it doesn't matter. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 18:20, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

== Rename ==

Your accounts on Bulbapedia and Archives have been renamed. You should [[Special:MergeAccount|remerge your accounts]]. - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]][[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]] 10:59, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

== Asuna ==

I added that Flannery's Jap name is an anagram for sauna. Can u expand for me? I'm gonna b inactive til Saturday in about 15-20 minutes.--[[User:Kuki|Kuki]][[User talk:Kuki|Talk]] 15:53, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
:...Uh, what? [[User:Cipher|Cipher]] 16:06, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

== Preparation for tomorrow ==

Since {{TCG|POP Series 8}} is coming out tomorrow, there will be a couple of things we need to do. First off, it is highly likely that these cards will be coming from the {{TCG|"DP-P" Promotional cards}}. I am sending this message to anyone who would probably be the ones making the cards. Make sure that the articles aren't already made under the DP-P promo name, we can just move these and revise and it will be a lot less work. Also, the disambig's. will need to be changed, and redirects will need to be created. Just saying this so that everyone knows what is going on and that the couple of pages might already be named under something else.

On a somewhat related note, you have a habit of letting links like "Pokémon(TCG)" when it should be "Pokémon (TCG)". I know they are accidents, but try yor best to keep them from happening. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 22:58, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

== lol ==

Your username was the one I was originally going for. When I found it had been taken, instead of my favorite team, I took my (then) favorite [[Gligar (Pokémon)|Pokémon]]. Just thought you'd like that bit of trivia. [[User:Gligar|Gli]][[User talk:Gligar|gar]] 01:51, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

== Reverse holos ==

Why are they bad? I would think that if they are easy to read, then they should still be able to be used. The point of having the image is for the artwork not the text. Now, ones that are extremely difficult shouldn't be used, but ones that are easy to read still should stay. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 22:39, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

:It's not that it's a bad image, per se. I understand your point, I just think we should try to use regular variants wherever possible when it comes to DP. Reverse holos from the EX series, I don't tag, because they look fine. The DP reverse holo effect makes the card look a hell of a lot different, though, so I don't think it's a true reflection of the card compared to the regular variant. [[User:Cipher|Cipher]] 10:37, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

== Oy! ==

You've been nominated for administratorship! By me! Use [[Template:User Admin Candidate|this]] on your page. --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 21:00, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

:Wow, that means a heck of a lot. Thanks very much. =D [[User:Cipher|Cipher]] 21:14, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

== I need your assistance... ==

I think I may have found two missing half decks/gift sets/deck kits that we may have missed somewhere and I want to know if you are willing to find more information and create the page(s). From what I could find out, it was released around the time of {{TCG|EX Unseen Forces}} was in Japan, possibly April 2005? The set symbols are this: [[Image:Ic pokepark blue.gif]] and [[Image:Ic pokepark forest.gif]], and all the cards have the [[PokéPark]] symbol on it. The first card of PokéPark blue is here [http://www.pokemon-card.com/carddb/detail.php?no=3297], and the last of PokéPark Forest is here: [http://www.pokemon-card.com/carddb/detail.php?no=3314]. Could you do this? From my knowledge, These cards in English were released in {{TCG|POP Series 2}}, {{TCG|EX Unseen Forces}}, and {{TCG|EX Emerald}}. All the ones released in English were from PokéPark Blue, and all the cards from PokéPark Forest are PokéPark's Pokémon, hence, not released in English, but {{tt|most|I think all but one because there isn't currently a page for a PokéPark's Latias card}} were also released in the {{TCG|"PCG-P" Promotional cards}}. If you could do this, I thank you in advance! ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 18:41, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
:I'll do some digging tomorrow, aye. [[User:Cipher|Cipher]] 20:57, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
::I would like the PCG-P named PokéPark cards moved to the Pokémon Forest nameset, if you could do that instead of redirects. Thank you. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 13:06, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Good timing, just about to link the Forest cards. [[User:Cipher|Cipher]] 13:07, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
::::I just thought it would be better to have the nine of the cards under the same name, instead of 8 PCG-P and 1 PokéPark Forest. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 13:09, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::Fair point, actually. Well, all eight existing pages have now been moved. [[User:Cipher|Cipher]] 13:12, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::Good, I'll make the Latias card page and edit the other ones. Now we know the origin of {{TCG ID|EX Emerald|Kyogre|15}}... all we have left is the damn {{TCG ID|EX Emerald|Altaria ex|90}} and its prevo, {{TCG ID|EX Emerald|Swablu|67}}. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 14:24, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
:Well, this'll surprise you, as it did me: a quick search of the old Japanese card database shows they were in {{TCG|EX Legend Maker|Eidolon Forest}}. [[User:Cipher|Cipher]] 14:29, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
::Well, we now know where all the EX Emerald cards come from, (or at least I do). I wonder why they would have moved them. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 14:32, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Strange, very strange. Could have been any number of things. I mean...yeah, I haven't a clue. Just one of those things, I guess. [[User:Cipher|Cipher]] 14:39, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

== Hey... ==

You got AIM? --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 20:59, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

:I do indeed, just added you on there. If you have MSN or Windows Live Messenger though, that'd be even better as I use that more often. [[User:Cipher|'''''Cipher''''']] [[User talk:Cipher|'''''(Talk)''''']] 23:11, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

== Userspace ==

The userspace limit is only for things that don't contribute to the main wiki. If a problem leaks out into the mainspace, like wanted pages or category problems, the rules are neglected. The rules are also neglected if what you are making will soon be in the mainspace, feel free to make those. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 13:08, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

:Alright, thanks very much for letting me know, I'll get onto that now. [[User:Cipher|'''''Cipher''''']] [[User talk:Cipher|'''''(Talk)''''']] 13:10, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

== Dusknoir to Gengar ==

If you're going to have a page with a Pokémon in it, at least use the correct Pokémon. You had Dusknoir in a Gengar only page. Try to keep that in mind next time, thank you. --[[User:Jonouchi|Ricco]] 19:47, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
:It was a mistake, get over it. You know how many card pages that we have created? A couple mistakes don't hurt anything, just fix them and move on '''without''' chastizing the creator. Shiningpikablu never yelled at me for making many mistakes, and there were a lot more than just a misnamed Pokémon. I thank him for it if he reads this. Just fix it and move on. ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 19:51, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
:You try doing what we TCG editors do. I'd be very, ''very'' surprised if you didn't make a mistake every now and then. [[User:Cipher|'''''Cipher''''']] [[User talk:Cipher|'''''(Talk)''''']] 18:48, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

== Shoot! ==

How do you keep getting the Stormfront articles up before I do?! I check the 'beach every day! --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 00:10, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
:They've been up there all day... ''[[User:Moldy orange|'''Moldy''']][[User talk:Moldy orange|'''Orange''']]'' 01:04, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

== User space ==

Nothing official since it's kind of useful, but you've made double the amount of edits you're allowed to today...I'd appreciate it if you'd stop. [[User:Porygon-Z|'''Por''']][[User:Porygon-Z/Trade|'''ygo''']][[User_talk:Porygon-Z|'''n-Z''']] 18:44, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

:Yeah, I know, bit naughty. I've finished now anyway. Four outta the six edits were related to a new template, though, in fairness, which will hopefully end up in the mainspace. Regardless, I'm done. [[User:Cipher|'''''Cipher''''']] [[User talk:Cipher|'''''(Talk)''''']] 18:47, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

== Card info fields ==

Don't remove the jname and jtrans fields from the card attacks. They need to be there in order for people to add them, if they aren't there, no one would think they are importnt when they most definitly are. So, don't remove them again, please. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 14:56, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

:In that case, whilst I'm drafting the Galactic's Conquest pages, I'll add them in, 'cos I really don't like empty clauses where there should be something. Perhaps someone should go through recent sets and add them in too (starting with Stormfront and working backwards). [[User:Cipher|'''''Cipher''''']] [[User talk:Cipher|'''''(Talk)''''']] 16:35, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

== Query regarding the TCG prerelease tag ==

'Sup. So, I was wondering when the prerelease tag gets removed. Is it after the prereleases begin, or is it after the set's official release? --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 15:13, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

:{{TCG|Legends Awakened}} had it during the afternoon of the first prereleases, enough time to guarantee enough physical copies getting into the channel. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 15:25, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

::Well, today's prereleases here in the UK (and also in Europe) are done and dusted, so...are we just waiting for the US prereleases to finish? [[User:Cipher|'''''Cipher''''']] [[User talk:Cipher|'''''(Talk)''''']] 16:33, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

:::Probably wait until noon on the west coast. That'll give enough time to put enough physical copies into the channel. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 16:38, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

== DP Era cards ==

I might be able to get some English scans of missing DP Era cards, before the Stormfront Set. I'll have to check my sets though. I should be able to give you a list of the missing cards I can get in a few hours. - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] '''|''' 22:03, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

:If you can do Mysterious Treasures and anything past Great Encounters, that'd be brilliant. DP and SW, I've got over 100 cards from each set to scan in over the next few days, so I wouldn't worry about those, but the others would be great. [[User:Cipher|'''''Cipher''''']] [[User talk:Cipher|'''''(Talk)''''']] 22:47, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

::The reason I said DP era, was because I have about 1000 card images to upload because a certain user has generously said that he wants them on our site from his site, and I said I would do it for him. But he doesn't have DP era, that's why I said only the DP era for now. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 22:51, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

:::That makes sense. In that case, then, if me and Kogoro get the DP era done - I'll be getting quite a few Stormfront boosters at some point over the next couple of weeks - if most-everything before then gets done, I might be able to fill in some gaps. My collection goes back to Base Set, even if it's a bit dry around Neo and e-Card. [[User:Cipher|'''''Cipher''''']] [[User talk:Cipher|'''''(Talk)''''']] 22:59, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

== Something for you! ==

It's not adminship, although you'll probably get that pretty soon, too. From this point forward, you get a pardon on making more than three userspace edits per day, as long as they're not for frivolous stuff. See, you've been working on some things in your userspace that may in the future become important in the mainspace, so we can overlook it. --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 01:18, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

:Wow! Thanks very much, that's gonna make stuff a lot easier for me. Thanks! [[User:Cipher|'''''Cipher''''']] [[User talk:Cipher|'''''(Talk)''''']] 11:17, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

== Re: Secret Wonders, Legends Awakened ==

I can definitely do scans for Secret Wonders, and I did plan on scanning them after finishing what I have in Diamond & Pearl. For Legends Awakened, I'm currently unable to find my set (I am too unorganized...) But, could you maybe give me a week or so to try and find my set before uploading the JP versions? If I can't find my set by then, I probably won't find it anytime soon, if at all. And, if I do happen to find them afterwards, I'll just copy Poli's list for that set as a precaution ^_^ - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] '''|''' 21:27, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
:Sure, works for me. If there's any you happen to not have that are on the list, I'll see if I can fill them in afterwards ^_^ - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] '''|''' 21:31, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

== DP card images ==

How did you get those in Jpg form? I was only able to find them in gif on the Japanese TCG site. If you are able to change them, I would like to ask if you could change some others for me. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 20:55, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

:I use Photoshop to be able to save them as a JPG. Link me to the ones you want changing and I'll get them done for you. [[User:Cipher|'''''Cipher''''']] [[User talk:Cipher|'''''(Talk)''''']] 20:56, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

::[[a:Image:618 008 000GONBEpok.gif]], [[a:Image:618 004 025PIKACHUpok.gif]], [[a:Image:618 x002 255ACHAMOpok.gif]], and the two, if you could upload them from the Japanese site, Mysterious Pearl [http://www.pokemon-card.com/card/details.php/card/7008] and Miracle Diamond [http://www.pokemon-card.com/card/details.php/card/7009]. Thank you. Will you be able to do this if we need more? And also, I have images of the 18 Mcdonald's e-reader cards, but no information about them. Could you find some more information about them, sometime (it doesn't have to be soon, just eventually)? ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 21:04, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

:::[[:Image:618 004 025PIKACHUpok.jpg]]
:::[[:Image:618 008 000GONBEpok.jpg]]
:::[[:Image:618 x002 255ACHAMOpok.jpg]]
:::[[:Image:007008 T MISUTERIASUPARU.jpg]]
:::[[:Image:007009 T MIRAKURUDAIYAMONDO.jpg]]
:::As for the e-Reader cards, I'll see if I can dig anything up now. Are they listed anywhere on here, like on a promo list or anything? [[User:Cipher|'''''Cipher''''']] [[User talk:Cipher|'''''(Talk)''''']] 21:14, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
:No, but I can get you a list.
:001/018 (G) Bulbasaur
:002/018 (G) Oddish
:003/018 (G) Chikorita
:004/018 (R) Charmander
:005/018 (R) Vulpix
:006/018 (R) Cyndaquil
:007/018 (W) Squirtle
:008/018 (W) Totodile
:009/018 (W) Marill
:010/018 (L) Pikachu
:011/018 (L) Chinchou
:012/018 (L) Mareep
:013/018 (P) Abra
:014/018 (P) Slowpoke
:015/018 (P) Natu
:016/018 (F) Sandshrew
:017/018 (F) Phanpy
:018/018 (F) Larvitar
:---/--- (E) Grass Energy
:---/--- (E) Fire Energy
:---/--- (E) Water Energy
:---/--- (E) Lightning Energy
:---/--- (E) Psychic Energy
:---/--- (E) Fighting Energy
:I can get pictures later as well, but not now. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 22:05, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

::I've been looking around for quite a while, but the fact that these aren't on the Japanese site really is a hindrance, and I haven't found anything at all. Sorry. [[User:Cipher|'''''Cipher''''']] [[User talk:Cipher|'''''(Talk)''''']] 11:06, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

== Congrats ==

Congratulations on being Bulbapedia's newest Admin! - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] '''|''' 03:22, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
:Congratulations! --[[User:Kevzo8|Ke]][[Special:Contributions/Kevzo8|vz]][[User_talk:Kevzo8|o8]] 03:29, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
::Yep! It's official! I think you're probably the best accepted nomination so far, along with {{u|Martonimos}}. {{u|MAGNEDETH}} is turning out well, too, but I think you just ''take the cake''. :D --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 03:32, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
:::Wow, guys, you rule. You seriously do. I actually don't know what to say, for once, so I'm just gonna say a huge thanks to everyone. =D [[User:Cipher|'''''Cipher''''']] [[User talk:Cipher|'''''(Talk)''''']] 11:05, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
::::Congratulations! [[user:chocolate|Cho]][[user talk:chocolate|col]][[special:contributions/chocolate|ate]] 16:25, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::Congratulatamalangadingdongations!--[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((Shut the **** up]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]

== "W" Promotional & Prerelease Cards ==

I happen to have 4 "W" Promotional, and 2 Prerelease Cards. Should I scan add them to their respective card articles, and a crop of the stamp to to the set pages? - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] '''|''' 23:27, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
:I'd say the crop of the stamp, but if the artwork isn't different, we do not need another scan of the same artwork. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 23:31, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
::Artwork is identical, I'll scan and do the stamp crops now. - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] '''|''' 23:34, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
:::I disagree, personally. I'd just put the whole scan up, there's no point cropping. We can just have a gallery on the card pages, or just have the promo/stamped scan in the Release Information section. [[User:Cipher|'''''Cipher''''']] [[User talk:Cipher|'''''(Talk)''''']] 23:42, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
::::I have the gold stamp added to {{TCG|"W" Promotional cards}}, the Prerelease stamp isn't scanning properly, so I'm unable to add that one. I agree with Cipher about the gallery idea, we have galleries for multiple other cards, {{TCG ID|Base Set|Charizard|4}} has 3 images in a gallery, all with the same artwork. - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] '''|''' 23:57, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::I do not agree, and here's why. The only difference I see on the cards is the stamp. The artwork on the Charizard page is not the same, it is updated and looks different. But the artwork on the the W cards is exactly the same, and there is no point to have it on the page then. We only would need the stamp image, which you just put up. I see no further need for duplicate cards. Maybe we can state that they were W promos on the page, but the stamped image is very redundant. And furthermore, galleries take away the full view of the card's new artwork. That's why if there is only one different artwork than the premier, it should not be in a gallery and should be by itself in the released section. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 01:12, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
::::::For me, the stamp is enough to say, "yes, we can have this scan." The only case in which I would not allow the same artwork to be in a gallery is, for example, a card printed in one of the first four sets, then reprinted in either Base Set 2 or Legendary Collection. That, I wouldn't allow. "W" or prerelease stamps, even City/Regional/National Championships stamps, I think, should be allowed, because they show off a special version of the card. [[User:Cipher|'''''Cipher''''']] [[User talk:Cipher|'''''(Talk)''''']] 13:27, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Well, then theyt can be used instead of the normal card scan. I'm not letting two of the same artwork on any page. The only reason we have the cards is artwork, so there is absolutely no point to have two. I don't mind if the display image has the stamp, the problem is having two of the same artwork. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 22:17, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
:See, I still disagree. I understand where you're coming from, and I respect that. I just feel that it prevents us from showing a collection of variations of the card. Take Luxio from Diamond & Pearl, for example. It has its normal variant, the one you pull out of booster packs. It has a Regional Championships stamped variant. It has the DP prerelease stamped variant. If you're saying we can only have one of the same artwork, that prevents us from having a collection of the different types of card. The same applies to cards with only two variants. Like I say, regular variants of, say, Wartortle from Base Set, Base 2 and Legendary Collection, there's no point having the B2 or LC prints. But the "W" stamped B2 print? Yes, I fully believe that should be there alongside the regular BS print. [[User:Cipher|'''''Cipher''''']] [[User talk:Cipher|'''''(Talk)''''']] 11:38, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

== Booster Packs ==

They DO have at least one Energy, one Trainer, and one holo. [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 18:09, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

:I've bought hundreds in the past. That simply isn't true. [[User:Cipher|'''''Cipher''''']] [[User talk:Cipher|'''''(Talk)''''']] 18:19, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
::So have I. Then what do the standard packs have? [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 18:22, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

::DP Series booster packs have one rare or rare holo, three uncommons, five commons, and one reverse holo (which can be replaced for a Pokémon LV.X, a secret rare or a shiny Pokémon in rare circumstances). For the e-Card and EX Series, it's basically the same, except one less uncommon. [[User:Cipher|'''''Cipher''''']] [[User talk:Cipher|'''''(Talk)''''']] 18:25, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
:::Ok, but in my two Neo booster packs, I had a holo, one trainer, one energy, some common, some uncommon. [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 18:40, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

::::See, only two. I bought a fair few and that isn't the case. I mean, yeah, there are a lot of Trainers in some sets, such as Neo Genesis, so more often than not, it's fairly likely you'll get one. But not always. As for Energy cards, I believe that only applies to some sets, such as Base, Base 2 and Neo Genesis (maybe even the Gym sets, but I don't think so), but it isn't the case for EX:RS and Diamond & Pearl. I mean, basic Energy cards are in very few sets. [[User:Cipher|'''''Cipher''''']] [[User talk:Cipher|'''''(Talk)''''']] 18:45, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::Ok. [[User:Ht14|''ht'']][[User talk:Ht14|''14'']] 18:48, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

== Japanese images ==

Is there some consensus to use Japanese images for Stormfront cards? Or are some of 'em just there because no one could find the English-language scans? --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 00:47, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
:There is a consensus somewhat, but from now on, we put the Japanese image on the page until an English one is uploaded. It is to keep the list from growing exponetially, and it also because it is an easy way to get images. Do you have a problem with using the Japanese images first? The card images can always be replaced; they are mostly just a place holder for when the English is avaliable. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 03:43, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
::Yeah, that's pretty much it, just so there's ''something'' there whilst we wait for English scans. If you've any issues with it, let me know and we'll figure something out. =) [[User:Cipher|'''''Cipher''''']] [[User talk:Cipher|'''''(Talk)''''']] 10:47, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

:::No, no. No issue! :D I was just wondering if it's alright to replace the Japanese image with an English scan, if a high-quality one is available. --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 03:13, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

::::Yeah, the Japanese images are mostly just place holders. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 03:17, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

== Stealthy ==

You snuck off of AIM before I could ask you something. Could you scan any cards that are left on the list? I want to get as many done, and then get the rest of what we can off the Japanese website. Politoed666 is supposed to upload his after yours, so I want to get this done as soon as possible. Are you able to? ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 23:48, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

:I have around 100 Secret Wonders cards ready to scan in, but things are a bit hectic around here, so it might not be until later in the week before I get a chance to scan them in. Same for DP and MT, I can get some ready to scan in, but those definitely won't be ready until next week if so. [[User:Cipher|'''''Cipher''''']] [[User talk:Cipher|'''''(Talk)''''']] 23:53, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

::Speaking of which, Cipher, you need to be on AIM more. --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 23:57, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

:::Aye, I do, but things are just so hectic right now. Plus I'm on MSN more often. But I will make a point of logging into AIM much more often, as often as possible. =) [[User:Cipher|'''''Cipher''''']] [[User talk:Cipher|'''''(Talk)''''']] 00:00, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

::::I was speaking more of ex era than DP era, though. Just do them when you can. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 00:02, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

:::::Got plenty of those too. To make it easier for anyone else doing the EX Series, I'll go from EX Power Keepers backwards, once I've done DP. [[User:Cipher|'''''Cipher''''']] [[User talk:Cipher|'''''(Talk)''''']] 00:05, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

::::::EX Power Keepers backward, that brings back memories...--[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 00:09, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

:::::::Yes, memories of the Great Creation, but I somewhat wanted you to do DP frst, then start at Ruby & Sapphire, then Politoed follow you with what you couldn't do, and afterward, we upload the Japanese TCG website images for all, (if any) that we don't have after that. Then all that will be left is Aquapolis, Skyridge, P, T, and Unnumbered promos, the 8 in Vending and the 30 or so in VS. That isn't that much at all. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 00:13, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

:That'd take me a lot longer in regards to the EX Series. All my PK, DF and so on through to DS or UF are together, whereas RS and so on are sprawled around different boxes and folders so would take me longer to sort. This is the best way (the quickest way and the easy way for me), trust me. [[User:Cipher|'''''Cipher''''']] [[User talk:Cipher|'''''(Talk)''''']] 00:30, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

== Protect ==

Since you're online now, can you please protect [[User talk:Chocolate/Archive 5|my latest talk page archive]]? [[user:chocolate|Cho]][[user talk:chocolate|col]][[special:contributions/chocolate|ate]] 23:38, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

:Done. [[User:Cipher|'''''Cipher''''']] [[User talk:Cipher|'''''(Talk)''''']] 23:55, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

== help ==

i need help i try 2 add more tags but theyre not coming up! {{unsigned|Emo-fairy}}
:That was because of you had copied the tag code directly from the pages AND had even somehow screwed it up. I fixed your userpage and left you a message about this, see {{ut|Emo-fairy|your user talk page}}. Also, remember to sign your comments with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) on talk pages. UltimateSephiroth ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|user]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|contrib]]) 14:01, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

== YOU ==

Get on AIM. --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 00:47, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

:Aw, you missed it. --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 01:50, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

::Sorry about that. I tried to get online last night but I was that damn tired I just fell into bed. What did I miss? [[User:Cipher|'''''Cipher''''']] [[User talk:Cipher|'''''(Talk)''''']] 08:48, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

== Hi ==

I didn't realize that your nomination got accepted. Here's a late congratulations on becoming an admin!--The [[Blastoise (Pokémon)|Kk]][[Gary's Blastoise|ll]][[Blastoise (TCG)|nn]][[User:Kkllnn|ator]] [[User Talk:Kkllnn| カメックス]] 21:55, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

:Well, I'm still the baby admin, technically, so you're not ''that'' late. Cheers anyway. =D [[User:Cipher|'''''Cipher''''']] [[User talk:Cipher|'''''(Talk)''''']] 22:01, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

== Congratulations! ==

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'''Congratulations!''' For your outstanding service to [[Bulbapedia|{{color|000|Bulbapedia}}]] in pages regarding the [[Pokémon Trading Card Game|{{color|000|Pokémon Trading Card Game}}]] you have been awarded the [[Bulbapedia:Golden Charizard Award|{{color|000|Golden Charizard Award}}]] for {{#time: F, Y|-1 month}} by the [[Bulbapedia:Editorial board|{{color|000|Bulbapedia editorial board}}]]!

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'''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 06:39, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

:Wow, thanks very much! I don't know what to say, this is so awesome, so THANK YOU! [[User:Cipher|'''''Cipher''''']] [[User talk:Cipher|'''''(Talk)''''']] 08:26, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
::Congrats![[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]

:::Oh come off it, Cipher. You knew as well as we did that you were a sure bet for this award. Keep up the good work. :D --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 17:06, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

== Checking on DP104, DP105 edits ==

Just to ask, I just want to make sure the pictures I changed are allowed in the DP104 & DP105 article. If it's disallowed, then I'm fine with it. I just added in a picture that isn't blur. Hoping that's fine.

Pardon me if I disturbed you, I was just randomly choosing an admin and ask for help.

csisps 26

:Well, anime isn't my area of expertise, but I can't see anything wrong with your edits on those pages, so you should be fine. Also, as a side note, don't forget to sign comments with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) rather than just with your username. [[User:Cipher|'''''Cipher''''']] [[User talk:Cipher|'''''(Talk)''''']] 09:41, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

== 3 ==

Am I allowed to go beyond the limit of User page editing if it's for an article? *[[User:Tc26|tc]][[User talk:Tc26|26]]* 13:51, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

:This article - is it in your userspace, and will it be moved into the mainspace, or is it just a personal page? [[User:Cipher|'''''Cipher''''']] [[User talk:Cipher|'''''(Talk)''''']] 14:00, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
::More of a template I'll be making for a mainspace article. *[[User:Tc26|tc]][[User talk:Tc26|26]]* 14:01, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

:::Well, if it's going to be moved into the mainspace at some point, I think (''think'') you'd be allowed to go over three edits. I was allowed to bypass the limit when I was making mainspace pages in my userspace. That said, still try not to go over three: use the Show Preview button whenever you can. I'd check it with another admin first, though, before you start editing. [[User:Cipher|'''''Cipher''''']] [[User talk:Cipher|'''''(Talk)''''']] 14:04, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

== Unprotect please ==

Could you please unprotect {{template|Almiap}} for a bit? *[[User:Tc26|tc]][[User talk:Tc26|26]]* 13:02, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

:Sure, just let me know when I can reprotect it. [[User:Cipher|'''''Cipher''''']] [[User talk:Cipher|'''''(Talk)''''']] 13:04, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
::Thanks! You may now protect it, along with {{template|Fiorep}}, {{template|Fiorepkmn}} and {{template|Fiorepkmn/dch}}. Thanks again! *[[User:Tc26|tc]][[User talk:Tc26|26]]* 13:17, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

== Hey ==

Are you avaliable to get onto AIM? I have a lot to say to you for weeks. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 01:11, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

:Not now, I'm afraid...it's 1am, I've had an awful day and I'm shattered. If you want my email address, I'll send you that tomorrow. For now, bedtime. [[User:Cipher|'''''Cipher''''']] [[User talk:Cipher|'''''(Talk)''''']] 01:12, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
::Kay, I can get your e-mail address myself, so expect one in the morning. ''[[User:Maverick Nate|'''Maverick''']][[User talk:Maverick Nate|'''Nate''']]'' 01:13, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

== Question... ==

I wouldn't happen to know you from Pokemon Acanthite, would I? You have the same username as one of the staff there, and you talk(type, rather) in a similar way. You can respond on my user talk. [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 22:37, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

:Aye, that would be me. I'm all over the place, I am. =D [[User:Cipher|'''''Cipher''''']] [[User talk:Cipher|'''''(Talk)''''']] 23:05, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

::Well, then you're an excellent admin. That's all I wanted to know; it's been bugging me. xD [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 18:43, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

== Thanks ==

Thanks for blocking that vandal. [[Santa Claus|♥]][[User:Chocolate|Chocolate]] ([[wp:Christmas|Merry Christmas!]]) 16:55 12/24/2008
:I didnt get to yell at him![[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]]
::Quite right. Vandals are best left well alone. The best thing to do isn't to yell at a vandal, it's to tell any online admins about it so we can deal with it swiftly. ''Merry Christmas from'' [[User:Cipher|'''''Cipher''''']] [[User talk:Cipher|'''''(Talk)''''']] 16:57, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
:::I just wanna say that when I saw the user name earlier when he joined, I thought to myself "this is gonna be a vandal", but, benefit of the doubt and all. [[User:The Dark Fiddler|The Dark Fiddler]] - [[User talk:The Dark Fiddler|Nos hablamos?]] 16:58, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
::::I was about to put the no remove talk page template on his page, but then it disapeared into oblivion. I hadn't even seen his vandalish ways; and I was the one who welcomed him! --[[User:Bulbapedian|Bulbapedian]] - [[User talk:Bulbapedian|Talk]] 16:59, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::Oh, and don't forget to delete [[Special:Contributions/Impossible_Sharked_Bulbasaur|his contributions page]]. --[[User:Bulbapedian|Bulbapedian]] - [[User talk:Bulbapedian|Talk]] 17:01, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::His userpages have been protected (and his talk page deleted) to prevent any interaction from him whatsoever. And, yes, his contributions page will be deleted, cheers. ''Merry Christmas from'' [[User:Cipher|'''''Cipher''''']] [[User talk:Cipher|'''''(Talk)''''']] 17:02, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Oh crap, again... I wonder where these BluePikablu (or what was it again) clones come from... '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 17:07, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

User talk:Heart of Thorns

2008-12-24T18:34:14Z

Kiryu: /* Come Theory */

==Welcome==
Welcome to [[Bulbapedia]], Heart of Thorns!

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== I'm sorry.... ==

{{tt|but you seem quite insane.Dont take this personally|YOur user page is creeping me out}}--[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((Talk]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Contributions))]]
:Wow, I got a comment really fast. Past the momentary excitement at that- woohoo, a member who apparently isn't fully sure where the shift keys and space bar are thinks I'm creepy. ^^ (Grammar is good kids. :3) Really, though, I wouldn't have it any other way. Terrible as this is, I once took a "How Obsessed Are You" quiz in which one item was "You can't imagine your life without Pokémon". 'xD And I couldn't! Lol. I've just made too many friends and invested too much time; even every major relationship I've been in has been, whether directly (met via mutual fandom) or indirectly (going to college for gaming primarily because of Pokémon), due to Pokémon. '^__^; [[User:Heart of Thorns|Heart of Thorns]] 05:06, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
::To quote a Wiseman, Pfffff. Grammar is for the Mainspace.I got a Absolutely obsessed with Pokemon results on an Obsessed Quiz, on everything but the anime, the one thing I hate above stale {{tt|oreos.|After all, C is for Cookie}}.I live on Pokemon Websites, your not alone--[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((Talk]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Contributions))]]

== Coma Theory ==

You've actually read the theory? Wow, I didn't think that many people read it. Wierd, wasn't it? What are your thought on it, besides scaring you?
Also, about the "givng life" thing, what about when Ash got turned to stone? (Which reminds me, he's ied at leastthree times, though the last one was a bit iffy...) With all due respect, [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 18:33, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

User talk:Heart of Thorns

2008-12-24T18:33:10Z

Kiryu: /* Come Theory */ new section

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== I'm sorry.... ==

{{tt|but you seem quite insane.Dont take this personally|YOur user page is creeping me out}}--[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((Talk]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Contributions))]]
:Wow, I got a comment really fast. Past the momentary excitement at that- woohoo, a member who apparently isn't fully sure where the shift keys and space bar are thinks I'm creepy. ^^ (Grammar is good kids. :3) Really, though, I wouldn't have it any other way. Terrible as this is, I once took a "How Obsessed Are You" quiz in which one item was "You can't imagine your life without Pokémon". 'xD And I couldn't! Lol. I've just made too many friends and invested too much time; even every major relationship I've been in has been, whether directly (met via mutual fandom) or indirectly (going to college for gaming primarily because of Pokémon), due to Pokémon. '^__^; [[User:Heart of Thorns|Heart of Thorns]] 05:06, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
::To quote a Wiseman, Pfffff. Grammar is for the Mainspace.I got a Absolutely obsessed with Pokemon results on an Obsessed Quiz, on everything but the anime, the one thing I hate above stale {{tt|oreos.|After all, C is for Cookie}}.I live on Pokemon Websites, your not alone--[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((Talk]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Contributions))]]

== Come Theory ==

You've actually read the theory? Wow, I didn't think that many people read it. Wierd, wasn't it? What are your thought on it, besides scaring you?
Also, about the "givng life" thing, what about when Ash got turned to stone? (Which reminds me, he's ied at leastthree times, though the last one was a bit iffy...) With all due respect, [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 18:33, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Talk:MissingNo./Archive 1

2008-12-24T00:39:08Z

Kiryu: /* Dietary Habits */ new section

If I remember correct MissingNo doesn't have a standard TM/HM set...

Ehem. If MISSINGNO has a hex, it has a HM/TM list as well, asigned to the HEX. WHEEE

Darkmewham2!

I am also unsure about the validity of the HM/TM list and for its base stats too. In my opinion these values are semi-random, depending on the memory part that affects its appearence. Maybe someone can run some research on that? On and please don't come up with another "if it has a hex" line again... --[[User:Arty2|Arty2]] 20:00, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

I added more TMs to the list, as seen on [http://www.trsrockin.com/missingno7.html]. They did extensive research into such glitches as Missingno., and came up with that TM and HM list. --[[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] 10:53, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

== Hex codes for fossil/ghost ==

Do you think this page should include the hex codes and letters for the special Missingno. sprites? Kabutops fossil is 86 (lowercase w), Aerodactyl is 87 (lower x), and Ghost is 88 (lower y). --{{ani|250}}[[User:Fsilone|隼也
]]{{ani|249}}[[Special:Contributions/Fsilone|じゅんや]] 16:55, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

== Either missingno. or some other glitch somehow did permanent damage to my Red. ==

The bit in a rom storing the color pallete for GBC/GBA/Super Game Boy was somehow modified, and so my game has screwed up colors. Does anyone know how it's even possible for this value to be modified? I assumed it was hardcoded. Also, is there a gameshark code I could use that will correct this value? --[[User:1338h4x|1338h4x]] 23:36, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

:Does it affect the entire game? Or only happen when your game is loaded? [[User:DanPMK|MK]] 02:17, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
::The whole game, no matter how many times I erase data. Aside from the strange colors though, the rest of the game functions fine. --[[User:1338h4x|1338h4x]] 23:41, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
:::Well, that's strange. I always thought the default GBC colors were coded into the system. Maybe it depends on the game. --[[User:Libertyernie|Libertyernie]] 19:36, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
::::If you press buttons while the GBC is booting up, you can change the palette. I take it this defines a set handful of colors for the game to draw upon, each one assigned to a value. --[[User:1338h4x|1338h4x]] 00:58, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

== Power Plant coast? ==
Is it possible in Pokémon Red & Blue to catch Missingno. or other non-water Pokémon on the coast near the Power Plant rather than the Cinnabar coast? I broke my Blue (by foolishly using a Game Genie) so I can't test it out. --[[User:Libertyernie|Libertyernie]] 19:36, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
:I doubt it. The reason the missingno glitch occurs is that Cinnabar has no Pokemon defined for surf encounters, despite the existance of one stip of water, the coast. As such, the variable for encounters is set at whatever it was last, like the safari zone. Old Man's weedle is either M or Missingno, I forget which. Your other encounters are determined by your name, since that's where the game chooses to store the string while replacing your name with OLD MAN. --[[User:1338h4x|1338h4x]] 00:58, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

==DP Missingno.?==
I've seen that video on YouTube before, and I figured that it needed mentioning here in Missingno.'s article, since it has the similar appearance. Anyway, does anyone have DP who's tried the glitch who can give a firsthand account? [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 13:06, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

yes get AR use the wild pokemon modifier toss 493 master balls then will come

[[User:Timer|Timer]] 22:05, 17 November 2008 (UTC) [[User:Timer]]

==MissingNo. in the Japanese green verison?==

Does MissingNo. appear in the Japanese green verison? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Asukagirl|Asukagirl]] ([[User talk:Asukagirl|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Asukagirl|contribs]]).
:Far as I know it does. Our Blue was based off Green's wild Pokémon, so if it's there in Blue, it's there in Green. [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 03:21, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

==Remember the old rumors?==

I remember back in the day, like... eight years ago? Anyhow, I remember the stories that were circulating around GameFAQs and Pokemon fansites about... well, this and other things, but this one especially. I remember the best being that if you see missingno., you needed to immediately kill it to prevent your game from being fried. I dunno about you guys, but since this was before the internet was really huge, I start selling people khangaskans. Never hurt me, except I lost a file on my Red once. But I had like, ninty kangaskans, so I would trade them to other kids for like, twenty bucks. I was rolling in dough for several weeks. It was great.

==Seafoam Islands==

Why isn't the fact that MissingNo. can also be found at Seafoam Island mentioned here? Even Pokemon.com mentioned this fact once when they mentioned the Safari Zone glitch. Of coarse, they did make a mistake when they said that MissingNo. can appear if you preform the Safari Zone Glitch and not the MissingNo. glitch itself. I'd like to add that part to this article, however, I won't until someone else agrees with me on this issue or better yet, adds it themselves. --[[User:Jake|Jake]] 19:49, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

I think it's not in here because you can't find Missingno. at Seafoam Island. Yes, its coast has the same programming error as Cinnibar, but you can't get to Seafoam Island directly from Viridian like you can with Cinnibar. You have to SURF from Fuchsia or Cinnibar, and entering a route with wild Pokemon during the glitch process effectively nullifies it. [[User:Fsilone|Fsilone]] 02:32, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
:You can. Routes 19 and 20 only have data for Pokémon found while surfing. No grass. Grass data is used for the coasts. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 02:58, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

== Spacety space space ==

Note there is an extra space in front of the Ghost Missingno.'s name. Compare it to the regular. Thought I'd give a mention. [[User:TinaTheKirlia|TinaTheKirlia]] 22:26, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
:...you're right... huh. Odd, because MISSINGNO. is the ten-char limit... '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 06:15, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

== Missingno. or MissingNo.? ==

Seriously? '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 05:23, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
:How can we ever really tell? I mean, all names in the games are in capitals, and Missingno. is not an official character, so there's no references or published stuff to check it against... --[[User:DarkfireTaimatsu|DarkfireTaimatsu]] 05:27, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
::That's my question, what was so wrong about leaving it as Missingno.?
::As for references, well... we COULD ask Nintendo their stance on the name... I've had Insomniac answer more meaningless questions. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 09:41, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
::: I've seen an email by Nintendo about Missingno... and I've pretty sure they spelled it "MissingNo.". (Not that I spell it that way, haha.) [[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|The]][[Kirlia (Pokémon)|Kirlia]] [[Image:281MS.gif]] 15:47, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

I dont think it really is a glitch, really! [[Image:Ani491MS.gif]][[User:Kpokefan|K]][[User Talk:Kpokefan|P]][[Darkrai (Pokémon)|F]][[User:Kpokefan/Cal|☆]] 16:49, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
Um. But it IS a glitch. o.o; {{ani|281}}[[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Sandbox|☆]][[User:TinaTheKirlia/Favorites|♥]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]][http://freewebs.com/thepixelcafe δ]{{ani|282}} 18:31, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
:Actually, Nintendo spells it "MissingNO". Notice the lack of a period. I think they just emphasize the last two letters in an attempt to dissuade players from going after it. I think its name is rightfully Missingno., and that the page should be moved to reflect this. If nobody objects, I will do it. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 20:02, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
::I would suggest sticking with Missingno. as well, similar to how we use Hoothoot instead of HootHoot. The period is pretty much mandatory too, as the games clearly show that it has one (and the abbreviation "no." always has it). [[User:IIMarckus|IIMarckus]] 21:09, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
:::Flawless logic if ever I heard it. Alrighty, then! If there are no objections, then the move will be effected immediately. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 21:13, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

== Mewtwo? ==

if you look closely at it, its pixels will somehow look like mewtwo, at least for me.
hey your right --[[User:Glatra|Glatra]] 00:55, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

I noticed that in the square block version of MissingNo. Very interesting. [[User:Animine|Animine]] 22:31, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
:You both are seeing things. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 23:06, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

== Other forms? ==

Can someone upload sprites of Missingno.'s other forms? You know, the ghost (and the Wild MISSINGNO. appeared! screenshot doesn't count), the Aerodactyl skeleton, and the Kabutops skeleton? I'd do it myself, if I knew how. [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] 23:57, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

PLEASE??? Without them, the page just doesn't seem complete. [[User:Missingno. Master|???]] 21:44, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

== In the anime ==

OK, whose bright idea was it to completely erase the "in the anime" section??? --
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| style="background: #FFFFFF; color: #000;" | <center>[[Glitch Pokémon]] and [[Pokémon|Official Pokémon]]
----
There is no real difference between the two. In [[User:Missingno. Master|my]] opinion, the two [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|should be considered equal]]!

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</center>
|} 01:40, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Because, seriously, Missingno. didn't appeared in the anime. Those were ghosts created by Ghastly which was strong enough to confuse Ash's Pokedex. Does Ghastly have a move that can instantly create a Missingno. in the games? I don't think so. >_> [[Image:Ani026MS.gif]][[User:Mudkipchan|Mudkipchan]][[Image:Ani392MS.gif]]

Does it have a move that can create ghosts instantly? Didn't think so. Besides, why do you assume Gastly created them? For all we know, it could be its minions.
{| border="1" style="border: 3px solid #FF0000; border-collapse: collapse; background: white; margin: right;" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="6" width="25%"
| style="background: #FFFFFF; color: #000;" | <center>[[Glitch Pokémon]] and [[Pokémon|Official Pokémon]]
----
There is no real difference between the two. In [[User:Missingno. Master|my]] opinion, the two [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|should be considered equal]]!

[[Image:000.png]]
</center>
|} 01:47, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

:Because, my dear Wattson, the skull ghosts were gathered there and turned into Gastly. Apparently, at the same time, the lady disappeared. '''<sc>[[User:Optimus35|{{tt|Optimatum♏|Optimus35}}]]</sc>[[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|♊]]Hi''' 04:35, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

== The Japanese name ==
Do Ketsuban come from the kana within the old japanese games? Because, a "ketsuban" is a kind of annoying moskito wich dwells in lakes and rivers. I'm mentioning this because this "non-pokemon" uses some water and "flying" attacks, wich perhaps are related to being that moskito. Someone get this? --[[User:Alamos|Gaudhi]] 20:05, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

It means Missing Number, actually...but that is a cool thing to bring up. [[User:Guy2]] 10:29, July 8, 2008

== ARGH ==

Missingno =/= real Pokémon. It's basic only purpose is filler data. e____e [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 20:56, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Can you prove it? Are you absolutely positively sure?!?!!?{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 20:57, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
:Yes, I'm sure. It's only obtainable through a glitch, you can't get it from events, it didn't appear in later games under the name of Missingno., (Others are dubbed Missingno, however they are not, they are more minor filler data), etc. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 21:00, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
::Are you absolutely sure that Missingno will never appear in the anime?!!!? Are you sure that the writers won't decide to put it in an episode?!!!!? Are you sure???!!? Did you write the storyline of the Pokémon Anime Series?!!!!! NO.{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 21:11, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Did ''you'' write the anime? [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 21:12, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
:Oh.....Toché....lol...--'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 21:15, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

== Argh #2 ==

We... we really need a page protect for this page. e_e [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 21:03, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

:....I'm telling Sketchies right now.....--'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 21:08, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Why would this page need protecting? Just leave the Biology section and stuff alone, and we have no problem! --
''[[Glitch Pokémon|Glitch]] and [[Pokémon|Official]] Pokémon. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|should be considered equal]]!-- quoted by {{u|Missingno. Master}}
 21:10, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
:The biology section isn't needed, though. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 21:11, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
:Also, can't you see the fairly-obvious revert war going on? That's why I want a protection request. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 21:11, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
::That would slow down Project Glitchdex.{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 21:12, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
:::It'd stop this horrible revert war, though. [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 21:13, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
::::Sketchies is doing it as we speak....--'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 21:14, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

No, you know what? I'LL stop this horrible revert war. I'll stop reverting the darn thing, OK? *waves white flag of defeat* --
''[[Glitch Pokémon|Glitch]] and [[Pokémon|Official]] Pokémon. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|should be considered equal]]!-- quoted by {{u|Missingno. Master}}
 21:14, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Uh... *waves another white flag in defeat as well* Who knows.{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 21:15, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

What's the Glitchdex? [[Image:Ani413MS.gif]][[User:Agggron|Agggron]] ([[User_talk:Agggron|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Agggron|Edits]])[[Image:Ani412MS.gif]]

[[Bulbapedia:Project GlitchDex]] This. --
''[[Glitch Pokémon|Glitch]] and [[Pokémon|Official]] Pokémon. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|should be considered equal]]!-- quoted by {{u|Missingno. Master}}
 21:17, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

I think Theryguy said that he was doing it as we speak to scare us to quit.{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 21:18, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

I was gonna quit anyway. A few relatively pointless sections aren't worth it. --
''[[Glitch Pokémon|Glitch]] and [[Pokémon|Official]] Pokémon. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|should be considered equal]]!-- quoted by {{u|Missingno. Master}}
 21:21, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

:Yea...about that....we kinda have a problem....Sketchies doesn't know how to protect a page.....so when the next admin is on Aim, I'll tell them to portect it.....--'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 21:23, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

WHY??? I already said I'd stop the stupid revert war! --
''[[Glitch Pokémon|Glitch]] and [[Pokémon|Official]] Pokémon. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|should be considered equal]]!-- quoted by {{u|Missingno. Master}}
 21:25, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

:NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! {{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 21:25, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

And if this page is protected, as mentioned above, [[Bulbapedia:Project GlitchDex|Project GlitchDex]] will be slowed down considerably! --
''[[Glitch Pokémon|Glitch]] and [[Pokémon|Official]] Pokémon. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|should be considered equal]]!-- quoted by {{u|Missingno. Master}}
 21:26, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Because MissingNo. is like the main Glitch.{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 21:27, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

:Well, LOL, I'm '''''teaching''''' Sketchies how to protect a page, it may take a while.....--'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 21:37, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
:Finally, it's protected.....--'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 21:39, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
::Not from me. But I'm not gonna do anything.{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 21:43, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Nope nevermind. I guess fourth time's a charm.{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 21:46, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

WHY DID YOU HAVE IT PROTECTED??? I must've said a million times I'd stop reverting it! Is my word worth NOTHING????!?--
''[[Glitch Pokémon|Glitch]] and [[Pokémon|Official]] Pokémon. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|should be considered equal]]!-- quoted by {{u|Missingno. Master}}
 21:48, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
:I think Sketchies thinks that it is nothing. And that's my word too!{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 21:49, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
::Don't yell at Sketchies, yell at me. I was the one who told him to protect it. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 21:54, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Then I redirect that comment at you.{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 21:55, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
::::This is fricking loony. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 03:29, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Okay, just looking back through history, I personally have no qualms with what Missingno. Master was adding to the page, I didn't see any thing wrong with it. What WAS so wrong with it? [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]][[Image:Ani202MS.gif|32px]] 03:39, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:Missingno. isn't really a Pokémon.. it doesn't have gender differences, it doesn't need a Biology section, etc... [[User:Tina|Tina]] [[Special:Contributions/Tina|δ]][[User talk:Tina|♫]] 03:41, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

It's a glitch Pokémon, it's there, it's in the game, you can not deny that. There is no problem in having biology for glitch Pokémon, because they are still actual Pokémon. What do you have against game location of Missingno.? Or it's special abilities? There is no problem with them being there. [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]][[Image:Ani202MS.gif|32px]] 03:47, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:Nintendo does not consider it a Pokémon, and consensus seems to be that we don't either. We don't need a "gender differences" section for a (glitch) Pokémon that has no gender. The info in the "Special abilities" section repeated what is said in [[Rare Candy cheat]], as did "Habitat". [[Image:Ani201QuMS.gif]] '''<code>[[User:Abwayax|abwayax]] ([[User talk:Abwayax|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Abwayax|c]])</code>''' [[Image:Ani201ExMS.gif]] 03:52, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

True, but that is a more detailed explanation, where as the one Missingno. Master was putting was just simple. If people wanted more information, they could just scroll up/down the page. Yes, Ninetendo doesn't consider it a Pokémon, but the fact of the matter is that t's in the game, and it CAN be used in battle. That's at least a bit of a Pokémon, no? (Also, just make this page unprotected, as there won't be any more reverts, that's already been said) [[User:GlinnMgraw|Glinn]][[Image:Ani202MS.gif|32px]] 03:59, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:Which is why it has battle data. It needs no other data because it has no dex entry, never appeared outside of Red and Green/Blue, and was never intended to be FOUND. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 04:09, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
::I don't think the protection is going to last very long, though. MM agreed to stop edit warring, and as mentioned before it's locking the article from good-faith contributors. [[Image:Ani201QuMS.gif]] '''<code>[[User:Abwayax|abwayax]] ([[User talk:Abwayax|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Abwayax|c]])</code>''' [[Image:Ani201ExMS.gif]] 04:08, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:::I still think that it's pointless. I originally gave it a Project Pokédex-like infobox BECAUSE IT HAD SOME DATA. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 04:09, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
This is ridiculous. The page does not need to be protected. Seriously, can somebody UNprotect this thing? --
''[[Glitch Pokémon|Glitch]] and [[Pokémon|Official]] Pokémon. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|should be considered equal]]!-- quoted by {{u|Missingno. Master}}
 16:03, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
:Um. If you would like to edit this page, ask the admins.{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 16:05, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
My point is, though, it shouldn't have been protected in the first place. --
''[[Glitch Pokémon|Glitch]] and [[Pokémon|Official]] Pokémon. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|should be considered equal]]!-- quoted by {{u|Missingno. Master}}
 12:47, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
The article has been unprotected. If there is anymore nonsense, I WILL protect it again. Is that understood? -[[User:Sketchies|Sketchies]] 21:26, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, yeah. I STILL think this article should have the Biology and whatnot sections. I mean to say, come on, [['M]]'s article has it! Why not MissingNo.? And speaking of which, why do we capitalize the second "n"? I always seen it spelled "Missingno.". --
''[[Glitch Pokémon]]. [[Pokémon|Official Pokémon]]. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two [[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|should be considered equal]]!-- quoted by {{u|Missingno. Master}}
 12:21, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
:Dude, NO GLITCHES should have the Biology, Habit, Game Data, Special Abilities, Behavior, Gender Differences, and whatnot! --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 14:53, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
::I don't see why not. It makes the articles look better, more professional. --
''[[Glitch Pokémon]]. [[Pokémon|Official Pokémon]]. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two should be considered equal!-- quoted by [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno]][[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|.]] [[User:Missingno. Master|Master]]
 15:15, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
:No, it does not! Glitches are NOT REAL POKÉMON!!! --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 15:24, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
:Calm down there, guy. I wouldn't be suprised if half of you Bulbapedians died of high blood pressure related deseases.--[[User:Cjhard|Cjhard]] 08:14, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
::...do you, like, get a kick out of reviving four-and-a-half-month-old conversations? Because, you know... this conversation is four-and-a-half months old. --[[User:Martonimos|Martonimos]][[User talk:Martonimos|((Argh]]|[[Special:Contributions/Martonimos|Blargh))]] 08:16, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

== I can't believe I have to do this AGAIN ==

Seriously. Is it that hard to reach a mature discussion? Revert wars solve nothing. Talk things out here. I don't want to have to protect this again. Have I made myself clear? -[[User:Sketchies|Sketchies]] 15:36, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
:Missigno. Master, Glitches ARE NOT REAL Pokémon! So that's why we don't make glitch pages look like real Pokémon pages, because they're not. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 15:37, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
This doesn't have to do with that, it has to do with displaying the sprites like SPRITES! I made a mistake in putting the sprites in the gallery box, it made them too big. And I think Glitch Pokémon should be considered real! They can battle, they have stats, they have sprites, they can learn attacks via TM (and HM in some cases), and they have cries! If those characteristics don't qualify them as Pokémon, I don't know what does. Did you ever actually read the quote in my sig? --
''[[Glitch Pokémon]]. [[Pokémon|Official Pokémon]]. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two should be considered equal!-- quoted by [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno]][[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|.]] [[User:Missingno. Master|Master]]
 15:43, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
:....Sigh....Glitches are just placeholders......and they are combined of little tid-bits of real Pokémon, but they themselves are not real...--'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 15:56, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Ignoring the last comment, I'd also like to say, WHY was the messy Details section put back? I cleaned up the article by putting half the information in Trivia, and getting rid of everything else, which had been stated elsewhere in the article, and it was reverted shortly before the article got protected! What's up? --
''[[Glitch Pokémon]]. [[Pokémon|Official Pokémon]]. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two should be considered equal!-- quoted by [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno]][[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|.]] [[User:Missingno. Master|Master]]
 19:01, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Whats a 'Revert war'?[[image:ani025MS.gif]][[User:No.1fan|Sonic]] [[User talk:No.1fan|Pikachu]] [[user:no.1fan/mission|RTP]]|[[user:no.1fan/reasons|1#fan]] [[image:ani155MS.gif ]][[image:ani001MS.gif]] 08:11, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

That's when someone makes a change to an article, then someone changes it back, then the first person undoes THAT, so the article is how they had it, and so on and so forth. There's been quite a bit of that going on with this article. Some people disagree with my ideas on how to, for instance, display Missingno.'s different forms. --
''[[Glitch Pokémon]]. [[Pokémon|Official Pokémon]]. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two should be considered equal!-- quoted by [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno]][[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|.]] [[User:Missingno. Master|Master]]
 11:46, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

I agree with misingno. master!
[[User:Crystallucario|CrystalLucario]] 12:48, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
::No, it wasn't a revert war that got it protected again, I '''''asked''''' Sketchies to protect it again. --'''[[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy]][[User talk:Theryguy512|5]][[User:Theryguy512/Contribution Page|1]][[User:Theryguy512/Similarities|2]]''' 15:31, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

2 things. 1, I never said that the revert war DID get the page protected again. 2, WHY did the Details section get put back? What I did was good, and it got reverted. --
''[[Glitch Pokémon]]. [[Pokémon|Official Pokémon]]. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two should be considered equal!-- quoted by [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno]][[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|.]] [[User:Missingno. Master|Master]]
 21:20, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
:MM, are you that obsessed with MissingNo.?{{ani|486}}[[User:Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''Poke'''''</big>]][[User talk:Pokemaniac102|'''''Maniac''''']][[Special:Contributions/Pokemaniac102|<big>'''''102'''''</big>]]{{ani|492}} 21:34, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Am I that obsessed with Missingno., you ask? Well, let's review the facts.

1:
{{Template:User Favorite|000|MissingNo.}}
''THAT'' is on my userpage.

2:
I started [[Bulbapedia:Project GlitchDex|Project GlitchDex]].

3:
[[User:Missingno. Master/Missingno. Master's Missingno.|This.]]

Well, then, yes, I'd have to say I ''AM'' that obsessed with Missingno.. --
''[[Glitch Pokémon]]. [[Pokémon|Official Pokémon]]. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two should be considered equal!-- quoted by [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno]][[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|.]] [[User:Missingno. Master|Master]]
 21:43, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

== So, when's this article going to be unprotected, anyway? ==

I mean, come on. I make an edit I consider constructive, it gets reverted, I re-revert it, thinking that the revert was done in haste, without the reverter thinking about what he/she was doing, it gets re-re-reverted and the article gets protected? COME ON! And for what I sincerely hope to be the final time, WHY was the details section put back? I deleted everything that was mentioned elsewhere in the article, and the rest could be put in Trivia. WHY was it reverted? --
''[[Glitch Pokémon]]. [[Pokémon|Official Pokémon]]. There is no real difference between the two. [[User talk:Missingno. Master|In my opinion]], the two should be considered equal!-- quoted by [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno]][[User:Missingno. Master/The Order of the Glitch|.]] [[User:Missingno. Master|Master]]
 00:06, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
: I support Missingno Master on this whole thing. Why can't glitch and regular pokemon be considered as one? Its like spliting black and white people up [[User:PokemonTrainer7738|PokemonTrainer7738]] 21:52, 16 June 2008 (UTC)PokemonTrainer7738
::You are contributing to an old, finished discussion. A glitch IS NOT a Pokémon. End of discussion. Again. -[[User:Sketchies|Sketchies]] 16:35, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

== Missingno and Togetic ==

I remember reading in a book somewhere that the 'orignal' Missingno. (from Red/Blue, NOT YELLOW) could be traded to Pokemon Yellow, and that when traded to Pokemon Yellow, Missingno. (or was it 'M?) would gain the same Pokedex number that Togetic has in the G/S/C Pokedex. I don't know where this info should be put, however, so I've not added the term.

--[[User:Mburusu|M. Burusu]] 05:59, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

You CAN'T add the term. They won't unprotect the page, so only admins can edit it.

:Besides, it's [[3TrainerPoké]], [['M]]'s Yellow counterpart, that bears {{p|Togetic}}'s Pokédex number. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 01:50, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

== Delete? ==

why is this page going to be deleted? I can't see the reasons. =S please someone tell me! '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 01:17, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
:It's not up for deletion, the redundant infobox you put on it is up for deletion, hence, the deletion tag. We already have a Glitch Pokémon infobox. Aside from that, I do like what you've done with the page, though. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 01:20, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
::I created that infobox for putting MissingNo.'s japanese name too as every Pokémon. And I also fixed this page to look like other Pokémon pages, 'cause I think MissingNo. is so well-known that needs to be treated like any other. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 01:27, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
:::I agree wholeheartedly, Missingno. DOES need to be considered a real Pokémon. Only problem is, I once tried doing what you did, it got reverted. Not the infobox thing, the whole make-the-page-look-like-the-page-of-a-real-Pokémon thing. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 01:32, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
Well If they revert the page, they should give reasons. After all, MissingNo. is a regular Pokémon for the game's perception. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 01:36, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
:You have a point there. I mean, Missingno. has a sprite, a cry, stats, attacks.... Anything that meets those requirements ought to be considered a Pokémon, wouldn't you say? I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 10:46, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
::Maybe a new infobox for Glitch Pokémon to solve your problems. I mean, over 20 glitches is hard to organize, no?'''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''10:49 19 Jun 2008'''''
:::Or maybe we could take the obvious way and ask someone to edit the existing infobox. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 10:50, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
::::Sorry I thought MissingNo. was the only gltch that has a japanese name. If the other ones have, then let's add it. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 01:10, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::Actually, I have no idea if any other Glitch Pokémon has a known japanese name. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 01:12, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
:''I mean, Missingno. has a sprite, a cry, stats, attacks.... '' Missingno. has a name that indicates an error message and a cry that is the default one at its shortest length. Sprite, stats, and attacks are ''not'' relevant, because those aren't really a sprite or stats or attacks -- they're seemingly random data, not physically defined for Missingno. itself. Missingno. is not a full-fledged "Pokemon." A beta Pokemon, perhaps. Filler data, more likely. But not an actual Pokemon. [[User:IIMarckus|IIMarckus]] 02:29, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
::''Sprite stats and attacks are not relevent...'' Yes they are! Stop being desperate and admit Missingno Master + Hfc2x have the better point! [[User:PokemonTrainer7738|PokemonTrainer7738]] 15:16, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
:::I'm saying that ''Missingno.'''s sprite and stats and attacks are not relevant because they're not really sprites, stats, or attacks. Is that hard to understand? [[User:IIMarckus|IIMarckus]] 21:14, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
::::MissingNo. has stats, sprite and cry like every Pokémon, because there's no other way to explain why it ALWAYS has the same base stats, the same sprite, the same cry and the same attacks. Yeah, it's a beta-Pokémon, but still a Pokémon. I know that you don't want it to be, 'cause nintendo did never release it as oficial, but the game (and many people) still considers it as a normal Pokémon. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 04:41, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::''there's no other way to explain why it ALWAYS has the same base stats, the same sprite, the same cry and the same attacks.'' Sure there is -- the data is always being pulled from the same location in the ROM, even though that's not its intended use. Missingno's cry is a real cry, its name is a real name, but its sprite is not a sprite, its stats are not stats, and its attacks are not attacks; they're just (incorrectly) being interpreted that way by the game engine. [[User:IIMarckus|IIMarckus]] 22:19, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Oh snap, he's got you there.--[[User:Cjhard|Cjhard]] 08:29, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
:It's the most famous Pokémon. People come here one day and expect to see an article on Missingno. And then they discover-Eh? No Missingno? BULBAPEDIA SUCKS! That's what they'll say. We are an ENCYCLOPEDIA, not a (democracy?) deletion posse. Seriously, new guys appear here and start causing trouble like HELL. '''[[User:Optimus35|It's the <sc>Θρtιmαtum♏</sc>]][[User talk:Ph34r4ever|Talk]]|[[User:Optimus35/sig/Pikachu|Links]]''09:26 22 Jun 2008'''''
::OK, from what you just said, I can only assume you saw the word delete and assummed that some newbie wanted this article deleted. Couldn't be further from the truth. If you had actually read this section, you'd realize that a user made a new Missingno. Infobox that could incorporate japanese names, and put it on this article, not knowing that I had deemed said infobox redundant and had put a deletion tag on the infobox. The deletion tag then showed up on this page. This section was started to clear the confusion. This page never was up for deletion, the infobox was. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 10:36, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

== relations ==

if u look closely at the sprites of the missingno. u would find that it hs a resemblance to a letter. Ghost:lower part of the body looks like a 'Y'. Aerodactyl: overall skeleton looks like >--< which looks like 'X'.Kabutops : upper body (chest) looks like 'W'. i think this is worth mentioning in the trivia.--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 13:21, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Ummm. No. One persons ideas are not enough to make noteworthy. [[User:Midnight Celtic|Midnight]][[User talk:Midnight Celtic|Celtic]] 13:32, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

but u agree. so if an admin sees my note above he\she might agree and post it at the trivia. but u agree,right?--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 13:42, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

No I don't agree. but yes, I'd happily disregard if an Admin posted it. [[User:Midnight Celtic|Midnight]][[User talk:Midnight Celtic|Celtic]] 13:44, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

just look accurately at it and '''DEEPLY''' and try to remember the shapes and places.--[[User:Nobody777|Nobody777]] 13:51, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Okay, I look at it clearly, and '''DEEPLY''' as you say, and on the ghost... I see a Ghost. On the Aerodactyl... I see the skeleton of an Aerodactyl, and on the Kabutops... I see the skeleton of a Kabutops. But again, if an Admin agrees, I'll agree. [[User:Midnight Celtic|Midnight]][[User talk:Midnight Celtic|Celtic]] 23:37, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

== MissingNo. altering save file ==

I saw the article about how "harmless" MissingNo. is to your save file and edited it. I have encountered an altered save file MYSELF. And it had NOTHING to do with my Red cartridge freezing.
After catching MissingNo. I encountered some issues with the Hall of Fame, which didn't bother me, as it's a minor issue and all. The worst of all issues came afterwards. When I loaded my save files and decided to challenge the elite four again - notably with my Mewtwo-Mew Team (the Mew was legitimely mine, as I won a Pokémon quiz), I realized, that only box number 19 had some Pokémon in it. All other boxes where empty. This didn't suit me at all, for my team was made of low-lvl Pokémon that were put in for training purpose only, and my "dream team" was gone, at least most of it.

I'd like you to NOT say the "save file alternation" to be only a rumour, for it really hurts my pride, especially after the loss of my legitimate Mew and the loss of my legendary bird-trio!

:Pokémon Red and Blue are old games. Yours might just be conking out naturally. Don't you dare blame Missingno. for this. If you had captured a Tauros and found that your boxes started to delete themselves, would you have said that Tauros can delete your Pokémon? I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 11:08, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

== STOP THE FIGHTING BY ALL THAT IS SANE! ==

we already know missingno. is a glitch! everyone sane will join me, delete the order of the glitch, and stop everyone from becomeing raveing idiots as bulbapedia falls from top to bottom. STOP THE FIGHTING AND THE MADNESS.[[User:Whatswithalltheextraspace|Whatswithalltheextraspace]] 22:10, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
:What.... did.... you.... just.... say....? You DARE oppose the Order of the Glitch? Well, let me tell you now, it will get you nowhere. You will never halt us in our efforts to promote glitch awareness, to put a stop to glitch bigotry and the segregation between Glitch Pokémon and "official" Pokémon! We will succeed! And when we do, Glitch Pokémon and "official" Pokémon will be considered equal by all! I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 22:26, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

ok.... now you just sound like an evil madman.
if missingno. is "real" then how come it doesnt exsist in any other gen? jynx is considerd racist but wasnt removed. kadabra was sued but still exsists. porygon cauzed seizures and GAINED popularity. no Pokémon was ever removed completely. and missingno. is gone. hes a glitch. face it.[[User:Whatswithalltheextraspace|Whatswithalltheextraspace]] 22:38, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
:''But,'' the fact still remains that Missingno. has stats, a cry, moves, and TM/HM compatibility, and it can be captured in a Poké Ball. All characteristics of Pokémon. Sure, it occured accidentially, but wasn't the creation of bubblegum also an accident? And look how that turned out. I'm sure that in due time, Game Freak will realize their mistake in removing Missingno. and the other Glitch Pokémon. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 22:52, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

true, very true and no it wasnt. i take back what i said. your only half-idiot. you can keep your page as long as you get off this one. i want this page unprotected tina.[[User:Whatswithalltheextraspace|Whatswithalltheextraspace]] 23:00, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

:OK, couple of things;

1: Bubblegum was created when someone was trying to create a new kind of rubber. Hence, accident.

2; Only half-idiot? Thanks... I think.

3; With all due respect, I doubt you have the authority to tell me which pages I can keep and which pages I can or can't access.

4; The MissingNo. article has been unprotected for some time now, and will hopefully remain so. I'm [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]], and I approve this [[User Talk:Missingno. Master|message.]] 00:21, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

what i meant was i will not try to get rid of it.

[[User:Whatswithalltheextraspace|Whatswithalltheextraspace]] 15:58, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

:Boy, no ofense, but you have serious problems. I consider MissingNo. a Pokémon too, and I'm the person who redone this article to look like the other Pokémon. I also REALLY REALLY HATE cheats and cheaters, but I do not oppose that articles like that exist in bulbapedia. Guy this is a Pokémon Encyclopedia and should include EVERYTHING on Pokémon, not only what you want to include. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 01:30, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

::As much as I don't agree with half of what the Order of the Glitch claims or says (like being a secret society despite advertising themselves so much), Missingno is a very important historical event in Pokémon. It may not be an official critter but it has affected the fandom way more than something like the move Splash or even a couple baby Pokemon we really don't care about. This is a Pokémon wiki, and glitch or not, Missingno is still part of this fandom and is the most prominant glitch out there.--[[User:Outrage DD|Outrage DD]] 03:45, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

== Trivia ==

If we talk about its weight and height in the trivia, could we at least talk about what it actually IS? [[User:Ht14|ht14]] 01:55, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
:Missingno actually HAS that data, but it is almost impossible to see because of the Pokédex entry. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 15:56, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

== Should 'Form' be spelled 'Forme"? ==

Just a thought, but shouldn't the forms be listed as "Normal Forme" etc.? If Deoxys was changed, this should be too. --[[User:Alex S.|Alex S.]] 02:10, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
:Deoxys is official. Missingno. was never meant to be seen by the public. It's also not legendary. '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:14, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

:No, "forme" is an incorrect spelling caused by a mistaken Japanese scan. Anything that has ever been displayed with that dreadful misspelling will be reverted to the correct "form" spelling. For example, it's "Normal Form", "Attack Form", and the like for Deoxys, "Another Form" and "Origin Form" for Giratina, "Land Form" and "Sky Form" for Shaymin, and so on and so forth. Once Giratina's Origin Form is officially revealed--and it WILL be called "Origin Form"--this whole paranoia will evaporate, this whole "forme" bull**** will blow over, and no damage will be done overall.

:Simply put, "form" is correct, always has been, and always will be regardless of Pokémon. It should not be changed. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 02:16, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
::Not for Deoxys it's not. [http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/2608/formeisrightdh9.jpg See?] '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 02:23, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

:::A mistake that's easily correctable. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 02:29, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

== 3rd slowest Pokemon ==

"and the third lowest Speed base stat, only losing to Shuckle and Munchlax whom each have a base Speed of 5 each."
However {{pdollar}} has a speed stat of just 2 according to it's page.--[[User:Tails Clock|Tails Clock]] 23:00, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

== Weight? ==

Trivia claims it to be heavier than Groudon (also twice the size of 'M) yet its size and weight is not referenced in the article.--[[User:Outrage DD|Outrage DD]] 03:38, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
Argh noticed the other topic on this, but seriously, how can one claim it to be heavier if they show no proof?

== Missingno. in Green Version? ==

I read somewhere that encountering Missingno. or 'M or any other glitch pokemon in Japanese R/G will freeze the game. Is this true? {{unsigned|Blueapple128}}
:Yep, it is true. '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 01:21, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

== Level 100 Missingno. ==
I added that when a Missingno. over level 100 gains battle experience and levels up, it permanently becomes level 100. [[User:LordArceus|LordArceus]] 19:01, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

This is the case for all Pokémon over level 100, and is not limited to Missingno. Also, please use the + button at the top of the page when adding a new talk page section; it helps keep things more organized. [[User:IIMarckus|IIMarckus]] 01:30, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
:Of course, but MissingNo. is the poster Pokémon for glitches. I think the most appropriate place to state that would be here, because it would take an annoyingly long time and be redundant to say it in the article of every Pokémon catchable at over Level 100. [[User:LordArceus|LordArceus]] 17:37, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

This is a lie...
in my pokemon blue version... a LONG time ago... i caught a few missingno.s actually i filled a box for them
then i did the rare candy cheat and raised it one lvl. it became lvl 1 and it was a picture of a pokemon(same as a ryhorn...i think...) then i raised it 100 lvls it became a little boy... 100 more it was a teenage girl i think... 100 more a teenage boy... then 100 more a woman... then 100 more... it was a man... then 100 more... now this was the wierd part... it was a grandpa... then it was a grandma 100 more... then 1 more it was a lvl 1 kangaskhan...
oh
and this was only for the icons and my icons did NOT move...
like
it was the little picture on the side that moves
it changed every 100 rc
and you could only tell the numbers by the numbers on the rare candy...
:P
-DC Out-{{unsigned|Deathcommand}}
:Ridiculous, and look at how much space you wasted. [[User:LordArceus|LordArceus]] 14:22, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
::Sadly, that is not true. Any Pokémon over 100 can go up to Lv 255 and then lower to 1 using rare candies, but battling it reverts to 100. And of course you do realize that we're no noobs and can try it by ourselves anytime right? '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 20:45, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
::Uh, was that directed at me? I'm sorry; I just can't tell. [[User:LordArceus|LordArceus]] 02:59, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
:::No, sorry, not for you =P '''[[User:Hfc2x|hfc]][[User talk:Hfc2x|2X]]''' 06:18, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
>_Well, is the main type {{t|Normal}} or {{t|Bird}}? The big box at the right says the main type is Normal, but in all the templates the type colours are reversed as well as they are listed as Bird/Normal in the leading paragraph before the TOC. I'm asking this because inconsistency bugs me. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 16:22, 12 December 2008 (UTC)</s>
:Thanks, {{u|Hfc2x}}, for fixing them. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 20:55, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

== Dietary Habits ==

Um, yeah. I was reading the article and took a glance at the dietary habits of MissingNo.. I'm sorry, but I'd like to see MissingNo. or any other glitch pokemon try to eat pokémon food... However, plese don't take this as an argument... Just thought that maybe that link to the Pokémon Food article should be taken out. [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 00:39, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

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Can we get a looping gif of the egg hatching? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]{{ani|155|Fire echy}}[[User:TTEchidna/GSDS|GSDS!]]''' 07:03, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
:Please? Anyone? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 01:09, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

== And if not... ==

Well, can't this exist in Gen III and IV as well, since the egg takes up its own index number? '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 05:27, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

== Picture dissappears ==

When I access the page, I can see the pic of the egg's dex entry for about a second before it vanshes. Is this just my computer, or is the page- pun intended- glitched? [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 23:38, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

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If u want to join the Church, of have any ideas about the creation, add them here. [[User:ShinyPikachu|ShinyPika <3 ALS]] 00:18, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

== Mew ==

I say thatmew was proably either created by Arceus or by the lake Trio- which is why the lake trio bears a strong resmblance to Mew. Just an idea. And what do you mean about "joining" the church? [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 20:09, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

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== i put this picture on AG 171 ==

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:I'd say go for it, provided you start signing your comments and using better grammar/punctuation. --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 23:20, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
::Upload anime screenshots as png images. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 23:22, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

== CAN I PUT THIS PICTURE ON ==

[[Image:Allegra1.jpg‎]] it the only picture i can find beside the other one[[User:Lindsayoris15|Lindsayoris15]] 23:35, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
:It's definetly sharp--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[Quilava (Pokémon)|Racer''']] [[User talk:RexRacer|'''''-talk''''']] 23:36, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
::And it's JPG too. Anime screenshot as pngs, please, this is the guideline I've heard. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 23:37, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

== i put this picture on an alternate dimension ==

[[Image:Alternate_dimension.jpg‎]] [[User:Lindsayoris15|Lindsayoris15]] 23:47, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
:Srsly. Are you reading what I put up there? png, not jpg. Yeah, you're not reading nor you are interested. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 23:48, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

== ??? ==

<code>01010011 01101111 00101100 00100000 01111001 01101111 01110101 00100000 01100011 01101111 01101110 01110100 01110010 01101111 01101100 00100000 01110100 01101000 01100101 00100000 01000010 01110101 01101100 01100010 01100001 01000010 01101111 01110100 00111111</code> [[User:GuyNamedSean|GuyNamedSean]] 21:21, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

:''The hell...?'' --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 21:22, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

:Oh... No, I don't ''control'' it, persay, but it's my good friend. I felt the need to stand up for it. --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 21:25, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

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== Disambiguated Pokémon Special characters ==

The link template for them is [[Template:Special]]. [[Template:S]] is for shippings. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 23:42, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

:...Shut up, 'pikablu. I knew that. D: --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 23:44, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

== Double links ==

"Also, only link to an article once within a given portion of text; if you say "Ash" more than once in a paragraph, only link it the first time." – From the {{Bp|Manual of style|MoS}}. [[Santa Claus|♥]][[User:Chocolate|Chocolate]] ([[wp:Christmas|Merry Christmas!]]) 23:46 12/22/2008

:Can't find that. Link me to the section? --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 23:48, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

::Paragraph four in [[Bulbapedia:Manual_of_style#Article_titles|this section]]. [[Santa Claus|♥]][[User:Chocolate|Chocolate]] ([[wp:Christmas|Merry Christmas!]]) 23:49 12/22/2008

:::That's ridiculous. I'll talk to TTE about that. --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 23:50, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
::::What's so ridiculous about that? Usually the people read the thing from the beginning to the end, and they get the link since it's there once. It also makes the page smaller in size and easier to read since not every second word is blue and every other black. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 23:54, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

== Atheism ==

I find the fact that you see the entire "atheism" page funny very offensive. All I have to say. [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 23:57, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

:Dunno what the hell you're talking about. Are you from Conservapedia? --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 23:58, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

::No, I'm an atheist. [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 23:59, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

:::As am I and so are some of my best friends. I get what you're saying now. No, the reason I find the Conservapedia article on Atheism funny isn't because I find Atheism itself funny; it's because that article is pure dumbassery. --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 00:02, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

::Oh, okay. Sorry for the confusion. I didn't realize at first that it was conservapedia... I really need to start reading things through. [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 00:05, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

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== i put this picture on AG 171 ==

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{{unsigned|Lindsayoris15}}

:I'd say go for it, provided you start signing your comments and using better grammar/punctuation. --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 23:20, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
::Upload anime screenshots as png images. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 23:22, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

== CAN I PUT THIS PICTURE ON ==

[[Image:Allegra1.jpg‎]] it the only picture i can find beside the other one[[User:Lindsayoris15|Lindsayoris15]] 23:35, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
:It's definetly sharp--[[User:RexRacer|'''Rex]][[Quilava (Pokémon)|Racer''']] [[User talk:RexRacer|'''''-talk''''']] 23:36, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
::And it's JPG too. Anime screenshot as pngs, please, this is the guideline I've heard. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 23:37, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

== i put this picture on an alternate dimension ==

[[Image:Alternate_dimension.jpg‎]] [[User:Lindsayoris15|Lindsayoris15]] 23:47, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
:Srsly. Are you reading what I put up there? png, not jpg. Yeah, you're not reading nor you are interested. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 23:48, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

== ??? ==

<code>01010011 01101111 00101100 00100000 01111001 01101111 01110101 00100000 01100011 01101111 01101110 01110100 01110010 01101111 01101100 00100000 01110100 01101000 01100101 00100000 01000010 01110101 01101100 01100010 01100001 01000010 01101111 01110100 00111111</code> [[User:GuyNamedSean|GuyNamedSean]] 21:21, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

:''The hell...?'' --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 21:22, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

:Oh... No, I don't ''control'' it, persay, but it's my good friend. I felt the need to stand up for it. --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 21:25, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

::<code>01001001 01100110 00100000 01101001 01110100 00100111 01110011 00100000 01111001 01101111 01110101 01110010 00100000 01100111 01101111 01101111 01100100 00100000 01100110 01110010 01101001 01100101 01101110 01100100 00101100 00100000 01110111 01101000 01111001 00100000 01100100 01101001 01100100 00100000 01111001 01101111 01110101 00100000 01100011 01100001 01101100 01101100 00100000 01101001 01110100 00100000 00100010 01000010 01100001 01110011 01110100 01100001 01110010 01100100 01000010 01101111 01110100 00100010 00100000 01100001 01101110 01100100 00100000 01110100 01100001 01101011 01100101 00100000 01100001 01110111 01100001 01111001 00100000 01101001 01110100 01110011 00100000 01100001 01100100 01101101 01101001 01101110 00100000 01110010 01101001 01100111 01101000 01110100 01110011 00100000 01100010 01100101 01100110 01101111 01110010 01100101 00111111</code> [[Santa Claus|♥]][[User:Chocolate|Chocolate]] ([[wp:Christmas|Merry Christmas!]]) 21:27 12/22/2008

== Disambiguated Pokémon Special characters ==

The link template for them is [[Template:Special]]. [[Template:S]] is for shippings. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 23:42, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

:...Shut up, 'pikablu. I knew that. D: --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 23:44, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

== Double links ==

"Also, only link to an article once within a given portion of text; if you say "Ash" more than once in a paragraph, only link it the first time." – From the {{Bp|Manual of style|MoS}}. [[Santa Claus|♥]][[User:Chocolate|Chocolate]] ([[wp:Christmas|Merry Christmas!]]) 23:46 12/22/2008

:Can't find that. Link me to the section? --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 23:48, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

::Paragraph four in [[Bulbapedia:Manual_of_style#Article_titles|this section]]. [[Santa Claus|♥]][[User:Chocolate|Chocolate]] ([[wp:Christmas|Merry Christmas!]]) 23:49 12/22/2008

:::That's ridiculous. I'll talk to TTE about that. --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 23:50, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
::::What's so ridiculous about that? Usually the people read the thing from the beginning to the end, and they get the link since it's there once. It also makes the page smaller in size and easier to read since not every second word is blue and every other black. '''UltimateSephiroth''' ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|about me]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|chat]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]]) 23:54, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

== Atheism ==

I find the fact that you see the entire "atheism" page funny very offensive. All i have to say. [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 23:57, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

User talk:Kiryu

2008-12-22T23:40:30Z

Kiryu: /* Dude. */

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== Dude. ==

Stop talking. Try editing the mainspace, please. --[[User:Politoed666|ニョロトノ]][[User talk:Politoed666|''666'']] 23:37, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
:Sorry, just trying to contribute. And could you have asked in a slightly more polite way? [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 23:40, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Teru-sama

2008-12-22T23:36:48Z

Kiryu: /* Become GS Ball */

So, what exactly does "Teru-sama" mean? --[[User:TIMMY|TIMMY]] 06:14, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

The Teru-sama can be sold at a high price, so it could be used for [[Image:Pokébuck sign.gif]], right?

Doesn't "-sama" denote a far higher level of respect and importance than "Mr./Mrs."? I mean, "Mr./Mrs." is usually associated with "-san", and "Lord/Lady" with "-sama"... right? Or am I mistaken? --[[User:Pie|Pie]] ~[[User talk:Pie|♪]][[Special:Contributions/Pie|♫]] 07:14, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

What does its Japanese name mean?--[[User:PikamasterADV|PikamasterADV]] 02:04, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

== Kanto map ==

But is it the GSC Kanto map, or the RBY one? I assume GSC but... '''[[User:TTEchidna|''TTE'']][[User talk:TTEchidna|chidna]]''' 20:06, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

== Sprite? ==

Do we have a sprite for the Teru-sama? [[User:ZanderX|Zan]][[User talk:ZanderX|der]][[Special:Contributions/ZanderX|X]] 08:53, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
:Gen II items didn't have sprites. Those were introduced in Gen III. Since Teru-sama is a Gen II glitch item, it can't have a sprite. - [[User:Kogoro|'''Kogoro''']] '''|''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''Talk to me''']] '''|''' 09:00, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

== Become GS Ball ==

anyone have proof that it can actually turn into a GS Ball? -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 18:15, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
:At least I've never seen any proof, I've just heard rumors. I think it's not true. UltimateSephiroth ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|user]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|contrib]]) 18:17, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
:It can’t. Teru‐Sama has nothing to do with the GS Ball. Despite this, somehow it has become ingrained in people’s minds that it is ''somehow'' related to it—but there really is no relation whatsoever. Teru‐Sama has as much relation to the GS Ball as it does to the Egg Ticket. [[User:IIMarckus|IIMarckus]] 18:20, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
::To be honest, I'm just going by all the rumors i've heard, which is a surprising amount for it not to be true. [[User:Takoto|~~Takoto]]| サソデイ 18:22, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
:::Nonetheless, the rumors are false. Try it yourself—get each individual Teru‐Sama with a Gameshark (there are over 30). Kurt won’t accept a single one. [[User:IIMarckus|IIMarckus]] 18:26, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
::::I have always wanted to try it, but I don't have a Gameshark. I used to, but it broke a while ago. [[User:Takoto|~~Takoto]]| サソデイ 18:27, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::Hmm... I could try this on VBA if I have spare time. Then we'll get rid of this once and for all. UltimateSephiroth ([[User:UltimateSephiroth|user]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|contrib]]) 18:30, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

:::as the resident hacker, i guess its up to me to prove it or not... -- '''[[User:MAGNEDETH|MAG]][[User:MAGNEDETH#Interesting Stuff|NE]][[User talk:MAGNEDETH|DETH]]''' 18:23, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

::::Given that the Teru-sama is sellable, I'd wager that a Teru-sama is holdable as well. One question is on my mind: Is a Teru-sama tradable? (Or will the game detect it as a weird item and not link up?) If so, it's quite possible that a certain individual Teru-sama can indeed turn into a GS Ball if traded to Crystal. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 19:57, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

My friend- an adept hacker-got a bunch of Teru-Samas and at least one became a GS Ball. As for the trade, that's an interesting theory... I'll get back to you on that one... [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 23:36, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Glitch

2008-12-22T23:10:27Z

Kiryu: /* GSC Mail and Battle House glitches */ new section

I have heard about a glitch pokémon called Flootenkerp, that is a a mix of a mewtwo and a pikachu, and I want to know if it's true. Does anyone knows if it really exists? -- [[User:Luke|Luke]] 12 May, 2006

Anyone heard of that glitch in Emerald that allows for the cloning of Pokemon? Should that be documented here? PikamasterADV 31 July, 2006

There no cloning giltch in Emerald. --[[User:Philip1992|Philip1992]] 14:41, 30 August 2006 (UTC)Philip1992

Yes there is. Someone on Serebii.net found it, someone else tried it out & rewrote it in english.
http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=134181 [[User:Slim|Slim]] 18:55, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

== Re: Tweaking ==
I'm going to go ahead and throw the Tweaking glitch into another category, it's listed with the Glitch Pokemon for DP as of now. Feel free to move it back if you wish so. [[User:Vekter|Vekter]] 17:10, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

== 1st gen beta item makes HM03 pointless ==

I found a Hex list online with RBY item values, and I found a key item called ?????, and I used GameShark to put it on my Yellow. When used, the player can surf without a Pokémon. It was likely scrapped before the game was finished. I'm not sure if you need Koga's badge or not, since I already had it, anyway. I just thought it should be mentioned. --{{ani|250}}[[User:Fsilone|爆発
]]{{ani|249}}[[Special:Contributions/Fsilone|ばくはつ
]] 18:04, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

== Glitch Trainer Pokemon ==

I saw an article about this somewhere and I can't seem to find it anymore. So in the meantime this post shall go here. My name in the game right now is ??!! male sign twice, female sign. Now the main point is that Bulbapedia doesn't talk about the two glitch pokemon that I've encountered via the Missingno. glitch. With this name executing the Missingno. glitch, the trainers that I end up fighting are: Channeler, CoolTrainer (Male), and Blaine, the gym leader. They have six pokemon and all are the same and as follows: A glitch pokemon I dubbed L8 (true name is what seems to be a right triangle,katakana symbol, 2 glitch boxes, followed by an 8). It seems to be the rock type, because grass moves are effective, and normal attacks are not. Its two attacks are Tackle and Screech. And for some reason, it changes backround music to some weird tune. It has no cry other than the changing of music. After which is followed up with a glitch Nidorino. It knows Razor Wind, Horn Attack, Tackle, and TM48 (the glitch explosion). Then the trainer pulls out a classic Missingno. (2 water guns and sky attack). Then another glitch pokemon which I dubbed Pokemon N (True Name: PKMN symbols 3 glitch boxes, then the letter N). Its cry is the tune for the Song move. It knows Tackle and Leer. After that one, a completely normal Flareon comes up. Then another glitch Nidorino pops up. After you defeat that one the match ends and you earn money. Why do these two pokemon show up, and why does the music change is all I want to know. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:MrMcMan|MrMcMan]] ([[User talk:MrMcMan|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/MrMcMan|contribs]]).
:I've heard of this happening, stuff like wild Oaks and Cooltrainers. If you have screens to prove it, add a section, but write it encyclopedically. Not as a story that happened to you, but neutrally so that anyone who's encountered similar can add to the topic... Y'know? And sign your name next time, dude. [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 07:57, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

I would add images and such...if only I knew how to get good quality ones. I have a printer/copier/scanner hooked up to my computer, but I'm not sure how to get it so that only the gameplay image comes up, and not any of the background (such as the gameboy itself, my hands, the room, etc.). If you could e-mail me or somehow send me this information, I would be more than happy to put up images and whatnot.(E-mail: name_unknown000@hotmail.com) --MrMcMan 7:22pm(Central Time) November 15, 2006
:Email sent. Also, <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> signs your name better than having to check the date/time of your posts. Just type it after every Talk Page post you make, and you'll have no problems, like this: [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 06:59, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

I have had this happen on my BLUE VERSION. It has to do with your name. [[User:Animine|Animine]] 22:45, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Here we are: http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:Wild_Prof._Oak.JPG
The video i took the screen from: http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=lQHTKF7q98M
His website explaining how to do it: http://pokegodmaster.tripod.com/Oakinred/

([[User:GT4GTR|GT4GTR]] 09:46, 22 December 2008 (UTC))

== u66865rue45 ==
"u66865rue45" does not seem to be a glitch that can be caught with any specific method -- the website proving its existance, http://www.trsrockin.com/linkcable.html, only states its name and nothing else, and states no ''constant'' method of obtaining it -- unlike glitches such as [[Z4]], [[X - x]], and [[LM4]], which can all be found with the [[Mew glitch]]. u66865rue45 probably does exist, and there probably is a way to find it, but until that method can be stated, it should not be mentioned. Also, on the source website, other glitches with long unreadable names are mentioned, meaning that this glitch is probably a random result of a link cable being pulled. (Also, person on the source website who states the glitch "u66865rue45" isn't even sure that's the right name). [[User:Latitude0116|Latitude0116]] 01:48, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

== Another glitch town ==

My friend told about this and im not sure if it is true or not...
When you play, stop in the town where you get the skill to use cut outside battles.
Then DO NOT GO TO THE SHIP TO GET THE CUT. Instead, trade a pokemon with cut from a friend's game.
Continue on playing the game until you acquire surf, and are able to use it outside battle.
Go back to the town where the ship is. access the ship pier, but DO NOT GET IN TO THE SHIP.
Instead, when you are on the pier, with the door to ship down from you, surf left from the pier.
Surf on, until you see a town.

That's it. all that I know about it. I would be happy if someone would test this out for me.

--[[User:AtomicTroop|AtomicTroop]] 14:44, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
:[[The truck]] strikes again. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 20:59, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

== IND ==
Should we add stuff about this? (watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyLUNhpiZDw&mode=related&search= ) --[[Image:Spr 3e 115.gif]][[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy512]][[Image:Spr 3e 202.gif]][[Image:Spr 3e 327.gif]] 20:50, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
Here's a pic of it:
[[Image:IND.JPG|300px]]--[[Image:Spr 3e 115.gif]][[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy512]][[Image:Spr 3e 202.gif]][[Image:Spr 3e 327.gif]] 21:02, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
:Meh. Just looks like another [http://forums.glitchcity.info/index.php/topic,2094.0.html decamark] to me. --[[User:Gawaxay|Gawaxay]] 19:10, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

== Unknown Glitch ==
http://youtube.com/watch?v=IyzWl_MEO0A
That is a glitch, and would it be okay to put on the page? [[User:X3ni92]]
:Judging by your name, are you the owner of that Smeargle? If yes... then... does it do that every time? o3o [[User:TinaTheKirlia|ティナ]][[Special:Contributions/TinaTheKirlia|☆]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]]{{ani|281}} 02:40, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
i am the owner of that smeargle, and every time i try to look at its summary it does that, if use it in battle (against a pokemon trainer) if i choose attack then press b then go to items and use any type of poke ball it will catch there pokemon and go to the pokedex, but once it asks for a nickname it freezes with the same pink screen wih a safari ball in the middle. [[User:X3ni92]]
:Weird. Probably a side effect of an Action Replay... [[User:TinaTheKirlia|ティナ]][[Special:Contributions/TinaTheKirlia|☆]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]]{{ani|281}} 02:49, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
i don't have an action replay o.o [[User:X3ni92]]
:Oh. Weird. Because you said uh, that you could catch trainer's Pokémon. Then jeez, something is seriously screwed up with that Smeargle.  [[User:TinaTheKirlia|ティナ]][[Special:Contributions/TinaTheKirlia|☆]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]]{{ani|281}} 02:53, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
i don't know whats wrong with it :/
i have a weird Unknown too, it has other moves then Hidden Power it got these moves (smeargle got the virus/glitch) after i traded them from Pokemon XD [[User:X3ni92]]
:Maybe something happened on the XD data on the Memory Card, so it screws up Pokémon data and such. Maybe you should try trading over another Pokémon from XD, and if that Pokémon is awkward too, then I think something's up with your GC→GBA link cable or your XD data. [[User:TinaTheKirlia|ティナ]][[Special:Contributions/TinaTheKirlia|☆]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]]{{ani|281}} 03:02, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
i did that with Houndour and Totodile and they work fine and evolved fine too. [[User:X3ni92]]

so would this be considered a glitch or not? [[User:X3ni92|X3ni92]] 02:55, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
:Probably just your game, methinks. Not really notable enough, or considered a seperate glitch that could work on a bunch of different carts. [[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[Special:Contributions/TinaTheKirlia|☆]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]]{{ani|281}} 02:58, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
okay. 
Thanks anyways! [[User:X3ni92|X3ni92]] 03:18, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

== Now thats a thought. ==

What happens (in Gen 2, 3, 4) when you breed a Glitch? I mean, think about it, what happens when you breed two of the same Glitches, or two different Glitches, or a Glitch and a Pokémon? |: Has anyone ever tried this before? [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 14:56, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
:My friend tried it a few times(He's an adept hacker). His results:
1- Game froze.
2- Bad Egg; never hatched.
3- Bad Egg; game crashed; saved data deleted.
4(new cart)- Game froze.
5- Game froze.
Theoretically, it's possible, but I wouldn't try it. [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 22:49, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

== Why? ==

Why are there 2 tweaking here? tc26 23:07, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

== is this beta glitch a "glitch zigzagoon" or a "no item glitch", both, or does it not exist ==

i got a beta r/s/e mailed to me by mistake. it wont save so its useless. any way i got a zizagoon. it was`nt holding anything and if i gave it will say "its alredy holding an item". if i took the "item" from it the screen displays "its not holding anything". make up your mind! what do you think? - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Whatswithalltheextraspace|Whatswithalltheextraspace]] ([[User talk:Whatswithalltheextraspace|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Whatswithalltheextraspace|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''
:Ithink that's why it's called a "beta game." Just a bug they hadn't worked out yet. [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 23:02, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

==Town Map Glitch==
Erm,I used a cheating device to walk through walls and go to the mystery zone,then I used a town map.When it returned to the map,it became all glitchy(Trees were white,rocks became different,etc.)Should that be mentioned on the article? [[User:ShinyEmpoleon|ShinyEmpoleon]] 05:47, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
: No, that's just a side effect of the Walk through Walls code. It's happenned to me. I bet the game was fine other than that, wasn't it? Same happenned to my friend when he used the code to go over a building seperating the routes. The city's colors were off. He went inside a building and everything was fine. [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 23:00, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

==FRLG Glitch==
One time (i forget the date, but it was sometime last week or this week) I loaded my Fire Red while i was in the Pokémon Center, and The entire thing was all glitched up. There were invisible walls everywhere, and the Center was enlongated. However, besides that, everything still worked as normal. I know it was the first time I had played it in a while, and when I left the center, everything was normal. Now that I think about it, it could have been Ruby or Sapphire. Anyone else ever experience this? Me and my fellow torchics agree on this - Sk8torchic 19:28, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
: Probably a bug that they didn't get rid of. [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 22:56, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

== Fence glitch ==

Very similar to the hill glitch and occurs in Ruby, Sapphire, and I think Emerald. In route 121- west of Lilycove- there is a man by a small collection of fences. Two steps directly below him is an item, but the fence is between him and the item. He's looking around, sometimes looking down. If you collect the item then stand where the item was, the man will see you and approach you- STANDING ON THE FENCE. This has happenned to me and I sufferred no ill effects. This only works the fisrt time you battle him, of course. Can this be added? [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 22:34, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

== Stupid question here, but... ==

How does the game know to call glitched eggs "bad eggs?" And don't give me crap that it's a fan term, because I watched my cousin get a bad egg and it was actually called that. [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 22:53, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
:Maybe the translators idea of a joke--[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]] 22:55, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

== GSC Mail and Battle House glitches ==

I realize that I'm posting a lot here, but I was playing my friend's Crystal version and tried to put mail in the box. It said the mailbox was full, so I went to the PC, and all of the "mail" in there was a bunch of radom question marks, something like this: ??? ? ????? ??? and so on. I tried taking the mail out and it seemed I succeeded, but it didn't show up in the bag and there was still no space. So I tried removing it all. Again, it seemed I was succeeding until I got about halfway through, then the game froze. Another time I went to the Battle House in Viridian City and my only opponent was a triner with a level 0 Typhlosion, and whenever I selected an action, no matter if it was "Run" or "Fight" or whatever, the game would freeze. Comments? [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 23:10, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Glitch

2008-12-22T23:03:41Z

Kiryu: /* FRLG Glitch */

Talk:Glitch

2008-12-22T23:02:28Z

Kiryu: /* is this beta glitch a "glitch zigzagoon" or a "no item glitch", both, or does it not exist */

I have heard about a glitch pokémon called Flootenkerp, that is a a mix of a mewtwo and a pikachu, and I want to know if it's true. Does anyone knows if it really exists? -- [[User:Luke|Luke]] 12 May, 2006

Anyone heard of that glitch in Emerald that allows for the cloning of Pokemon? Should that be documented here? PikamasterADV 31 July, 2006

There no cloning giltch in Emerald. --[[User:Philip1992|Philip1992]] 14:41, 30 August 2006 (UTC)Philip1992

Yes there is. Someone on Serebii.net found it, someone else tried it out & rewrote it in english.
http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=134181 [[User:Slim|Slim]] 18:55, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

== Re: Tweaking ==
I'm going to go ahead and throw the Tweaking glitch into another category, it's listed with the Glitch Pokemon for DP as of now. Feel free to move it back if you wish so. [[User:Vekter|Vekter]] 17:10, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

== 1st gen beta item makes HM03 pointless ==

I found a Hex list online with RBY item values, and I found a key item called ?????, and I used GameShark to put it on my Yellow. When used, the player can surf without a Pokémon. It was likely scrapped before the game was finished. I'm not sure if you need Koga's badge or not, since I already had it, anyway. I just thought it should be mentioned. --{{ani|250}}[[User:Fsilone|爆発
]]{{ani|249}}[[Special:Contributions/Fsilone|ばくはつ
]] 18:04, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

== Glitch Trainer Pokemon ==

I saw an article about this somewhere and I can't seem to find it anymore. So in the meantime this post shall go here. My name in the game right now is ??!! male sign twice, female sign. Now the main point is that Bulbapedia doesn't talk about the two glitch pokemon that I've encountered via the Missingno. glitch. With this name executing the Missingno. glitch, the trainers that I end up fighting are: Channeler, CoolTrainer (Male), and Blaine, the gym leader. They have six pokemon and all are the same and as follows: A glitch pokemon I dubbed L8 (true name is what seems to be a right triangle,katakana symbol, 2 glitch boxes, followed by an 8). It seems to be the rock type, because grass moves are effective, and normal attacks are not. Its two attacks are Tackle and Screech. And for some reason, it changes backround music to some weird tune. It has no cry other than the changing of music. After which is followed up with a glitch Nidorino. It knows Razor Wind, Horn Attack, Tackle, and TM48 (the glitch explosion). Then the trainer pulls out a classic Missingno. (2 water guns and sky attack). Then another glitch pokemon which I dubbed Pokemon N (True Name: PKMN symbols 3 glitch boxes, then the letter N). Its cry is the tune for the Song move. It knows Tackle and Leer. After that one, a completely normal Flareon comes up. Then another glitch Nidorino pops up. After you defeat that one the match ends and you earn money. Why do these two pokemon show up, and why does the music change is all I want to know. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:MrMcMan|MrMcMan]] ([[User talk:MrMcMan|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/MrMcMan|contribs]]).
:I've heard of this happening, stuff like wild Oaks and Cooltrainers. If you have screens to prove it, add a section, but write it encyclopedically. Not as a story that happened to you, but neutrally so that anyone who's encountered similar can add to the topic... Y'know? And sign your name next time, dude. [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 07:57, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

I would add images and such...if only I knew how to get good quality ones. I have a printer/copier/scanner hooked up to my computer, but I'm not sure how to get it so that only the gameplay image comes up, and not any of the background (such as the gameboy itself, my hands, the room, etc.). If you could e-mail me or somehow send me this information, I would be more than happy to put up images and whatnot.(E-mail: name_unknown000@hotmail.com) --MrMcMan 7:22pm(Central Time) November 15, 2006
:Email sent. Also, <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> signs your name better than having to check the date/time of your posts. Just type it after every Talk Page post you make, and you'll have no problems, like this: [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 06:59, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

I have had this happen on my BLUE VERSION. It has to do with your name. [[User:Animine|Animine]] 22:45, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Here we are: http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:Wild_Prof._Oak.JPG
The video i took the screen from: http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=lQHTKF7q98M
His website explaining how to do it: http://pokegodmaster.tripod.com/Oakinred/

([[User:GT4GTR|GT4GTR]] 09:46, 22 December 2008 (UTC))

== u66865rue45 ==
"u66865rue45" does not seem to be a glitch that can be caught with any specific method -- the website proving its existance, http://www.trsrockin.com/linkcable.html, only states its name and nothing else, and states no ''constant'' method of obtaining it -- unlike glitches such as [[Z4]], [[X - x]], and [[LM4]], which can all be found with the [[Mew glitch]]. u66865rue45 probably does exist, and there probably is a way to find it, but until that method can be stated, it should not be mentioned. Also, on the source website, other glitches with long unreadable names are mentioned, meaning that this glitch is probably a random result of a link cable being pulled. (Also, person on the source website who states the glitch "u66865rue45" isn't even sure that's the right name). [[User:Latitude0116|Latitude0116]] 01:48, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

== Another glitch town ==

My friend told about this and im not sure if it is true or not...
When you play, stop in the town where you get the skill to use cut outside battles.
Then DO NOT GO TO THE SHIP TO GET THE CUT. Instead, trade a pokemon with cut from a friend's game.
Continue on playing the game until you acquire surf, and are able to use it outside battle.
Go back to the town where the ship is. access the ship pier, but DO NOT GET IN TO THE SHIP.
Instead, when you are on the pier, with the door to ship down from you, surf left from the pier.
Surf on, until you see a town.

That's it. all that I know about it. I would be happy if someone would test this out for me.

--[[User:AtomicTroop|AtomicTroop]] 14:44, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
:[[The truck]] strikes again. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 20:59, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

== IND ==
Should we add stuff about this? (watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyLUNhpiZDw&mode=related&search= ) --[[Image:Spr 3e 115.gif]][[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy512]][[Image:Spr 3e 202.gif]][[Image:Spr 3e 327.gif]] 20:50, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
Here's a pic of it:
[[Image:IND.JPG|300px]]--[[Image:Spr 3e 115.gif]][[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy512]][[Image:Spr 3e 202.gif]][[Image:Spr 3e 327.gif]] 21:02, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
:Meh. Just looks like another [http://forums.glitchcity.info/index.php/topic,2094.0.html decamark] to me. --[[User:Gawaxay|Gawaxay]] 19:10, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

== Unknown Glitch ==
http://youtube.com/watch?v=IyzWl_MEO0A
That is a glitch, and would it be okay to put on the page? [[User:X3ni92]]
:Judging by your name, are you the owner of that Smeargle? If yes... then... does it do that every time? o3o [[User:TinaTheKirlia|ティナ]][[Special:Contributions/TinaTheKirlia|☆]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]]{{ani|281}} 02:40, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
i am the owner of that smeargle, and every time i try to look at its summary it does that, if use it in battle (against a pokemon trainer) if i choose attack then press b then go to items and use any type of poke ball it will catch there pokemon and go to the pokedex, but once it asks for a nickname it freezes with the same pink screen wih a safari ball in the middle. [[User:X3ni92]]
:Weird. Probably a side effect of an Action Replay... [[User:TinaTheKirlia|ティナ]][[Special:Contributions/TinaTheKirlia|☆]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]]{{ani|281}} 02:49, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
i don't have an action replay o.o [[User:X3ni92]]
:Oh. Weird. Because you said uh, that you could catch trainer's Pokémon. Then jeez, something is seriously screwed up with that Smeargle.  [[User:TinaTheKirlia|ティナ]][[Special:Contributions/TinaTheKirlia|☆]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]]{{ani|281}} 02:53, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
i don't know whats wrong with it :/
i have a weird Unknown too, it has other moves then Hidden Power it got these moves (smeargle got the virus/glitch) after i traded them from Pokemon XD [[User:X3ni92]]
:Maybe something happened on the XD data on the Memory Card, so it screws up Pokémon data and such. Maybe you should try trading over another Pokémon from XD, and if that Pokémon is awkward too, then I think something's up with your GC→GBA link cable or your XD data. [[User:TinaTheKirlia|ティナ]][[Special:Contributions/TinaTheKirlia|☆]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]]{{ani|281}} 03:02, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
i did that with Houndour and Totodile and they work fine and evolved fine too. [[User:X3ni92]]

so would this be considered a glitch or not? [[User:X3ni92|X3ni92]] 02:55, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
:Probably just your game, methinks. Not really notable enough, or considered a seperate glitch that could work on a bunch of different carts. [[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[Special:Contributions/TinaTheKirlia|☆]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]]{{ani|281}} 02:58, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
okay. 
Thanks anyways! [[User:X3ni92|X3ni92]] 03:18, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

== Now thats a thought. ==

What happens (in Gen 2, 3, 4) when you breed a Glitch? I mean, think about it, what happens when you breed two of the same Glitches, or two different Glitches, or a Glitch and a Pokémon? |: Has anyone ever tried this before? [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 14:56, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
:My friend tried it a few times(He's an adept hacker). His results:
1- Game froze.
2- Bad Egg; never hatched.
3- Bad Egg; game crashed; saved data deleted.
4(new cart)- Game froze.
5- Game froze.
Theoretically, it's possible, but I wouldn't try it. [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 22:49, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

== Why? ==

Why are there 2 tweaking here? tc26 23:07, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

== is this beta glitch a "glitch zigzagoon" or a "no item glitch", both, or does it not exist ==

i got a beta r/s/e mailed to me by mistake. it wont save so its useless. any way i got a zizagoon. it was`nt holding anything and if i gave it will say "its alredy holding an item". if i took the "item" from it the screen displays "its not holding anything". make up your mind! what do you think? - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Whatswithalltheextraspace|Whatswithalltheextraspace]] ([[User talk:Whatswithalltheextraspace|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Whatswithalltheextraspace|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''
:Ithink that's why it's called a "beta game." Just a bug they hadn't worked out yet. [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 23:02, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

==Town Map Glitch==
Erm,I used a cheating device to walk through walls and go to the mystery zone,then I used a town map.When it returned to the map,it became all glitchy(Trees were white,rocks became different,etc.)Should that be mentioned on the article? [[User:ShinyEmpoleon|ShinyEmpoleon]] 05:47, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
: No, that's just a side effect of the Walk through Walls code. It's happenned to me. I bet the game was fine other than that, wasn't it? Same happenned to my friend when he used the code to go over a building seperating the routes. The city's colors were off. He went inside a building and everything was fine. [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 23:00, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

==FRLG Glitch==
One time (i forget the date, but it was sometime last week or this week) I loaded my Fire Red while i was in the Pokémon Center, and The entire thing was all glitched up. There were invisible walls everywhere, and the Center was enlongated. However, besides that, everything still worked as normal. I know it was the first time I had played it in a while, and when I left the center, everything was normal. Now that I think about it, it could have been Ruby or Sapphire. Anyone else ever experience this? Me and my fellow torchics agree on this - Sk8torchic 19:28, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
: Probably a bug that they didn't get rid of. Anyway, how can you get a Zigzaggoon in the Kanto-advanced games that early? Probably Ruby or Sapphire versions. Like I said, most likely a bug. [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 22:56, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

== Fence glitch ==

Very similar to the hill glitch and occurs in Ruby, Sapphire, and I think Emerald. In route 121- west of Lilycove- there is a man by a small collection of fences. Two steps directly below him is an item, but the fence is between him and the item. He's looking around, sometimes looking down. If you collect the item then stand where the item was, the man will see you and approach you- STANDING ON THE FENCE. This has happenned to me and I sufferred no ill effects. This only works the fisrt time you battle him, of course. Can this be added? [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 22:34, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

== Stupid question here, but... ==

How does the game know to call glitched eggs "bad eggs?" And don't give me crap that it's a fan term, because I watched my cousin get a bad egg and it was actually called that. [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 22:53, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
:Maybe the translators idea of a joke--[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]] 22:55, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Glitch

2008-12-22T23:00:51Z

Kiryu: /* Town Map Glitch */

I have heard about a glitch pokémon called Flootenkerp, that is a a mix of a mewtwo and a pikachu, and I want to know if it's true. Does anyone knows if it really exists? -- [[User:Luke|Luke]] 12 May, 2006

Anyone heard of that glitch in Emerald that allows for the cloning of Pokemon? Should that be documented here? PikamasterADV 31 July, 2006

There no cloning giltch in Emerald. --[[User:Philip1992|Philip1992]] 14:41, 30 August 2006 (UTC)Philip1992

Yes there is. Someone on Serebii.net found it, someone else tried it out & rewrote it in english.
http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=134181 [[User:Slim|Slim]] 18:55, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

== Re: Tweaking ==
I'm going to go ahead and throw the Tweaking glitch into another category, it's listed with the Glitch Pokemon for DP as of now. Feel free to move it back if you wish so. [[User:Vekter|Vekter]] 17:10, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

== 1st gen beta item makes HM03 pointless ==

I found a Hex list online with RBY item values, and I found a key item called ?????, and I used GameShark to put it on my Yellow. When used, the player can surf without a Pokémon. It was likely scrapped before the game was finished. I'm not sure if you need Koga's badge or not, since I already had it, anyway. I just thought it should be mentioned. --{{ani|250}}[[User:Fsilone|爆発
]]{{ani|249}}[[Special:Contributions/Fsilone|ばくはつ
]] 18:04, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

== Glitch Trainer Pokemon ==

I saw an article about this somewhere and I can't seem to find it anymore. So in the meantime this post shall go here. My name in the game right now is ??!! male sign twice, female sign. Now the main point is that Bulbapedia doesn't talk about the two glitch pokemon that I've encountered via the Missingno. glitch. With this name executing the Missingno. glitch, the trainers that I end up fighting are: Channeler, CoolTrainer (Male), and Blaine, the gym leader. They have six pokemon and all are the same and as follows: A glitch pokemon I dubbed L8 (true name is what seems to be a right triangle,katakana symbol, 2 glitch boxes, followed by an 8). It seems to be the rock type, because grass moves are effective, and normal attacks are not. Its two attacks are Tackle and Screech. And for some reason, it changes backround music to some weird tune. It has no cry other than the changing of music. After which is followed up with a glitch Nidorino. It knows Razor Wind, Horn Attack, Tackle, and TM48 (the glitch explosion). Then the trainer pulls out a classic Missingno. (2 water guns and sky attack). Then another glitch pokemon which I dubbed Pokemon N (True Name: PKMN symbols 3 glitch boxes, then the letter N). Its cry is the tune for the Song move. It knows Tackle and Leer. After that one, a completely normal Flareon comes up. Then another glitch Nidorino pops up. After you defeat that one the match ends and you earn money. Why do these two pokemon show up, and why does the music change is all I want to know. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:MrMcMan|MrMcMan]] ([[User talk:MrMcMan|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/MrMcMan|contribs]]).
:I've heard of this happening, stuff like wild Oaks and Cooltrainers. If you have screens to prove it, add a section, but write it encyclopedically. Not as a story that happened to you, but neutrally so that anyone who's encountered similar can add to the topic... Y'know? And sign your name next time, dude. [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 07:57, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

I would add images and such...if only I knew how to get good quality ones. I have a printer/copier/scanner hooked up to my computer, but I'm not sure how to get it so that only the gameplay image comes up, and not any of the background (such as the gameboy itself, my hands, the room, etc.). If you could e-mail me or somehow send me this information, I would be more than happy to put up images and whatnot.(E-mail: name_unknown000@hotmail.com) --MrMcMan 7:22pm(Central Time) November 15, 2006
:Email sent. Also, <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> signs your name better than having to check the date/time of your posts. Just type it after every Talk Page post you make, and you'll have no problems, like this: [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 06:59, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

I have had this happen on my BLUE VERSION. It has to do with your name. [[User:Animine|Animine]] 22:45, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Here we are: http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:Wild_Prof._Oak.JPG
The video i took the screen from: http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=lQHTKF7q98M
His website explaining how to do it: http://pokegodmaster.tripod.com/Oakinred/

([[User:GT4GTR|GT4GTR]] 09:46, 22 December 2008 (UTC))

== u66865rue45 ==
"u66865rue45" does not seem to be a glitch that can be caught with any specific method -- the website proving its existance, http://www.trsrockin.com/linkcable.html, only states its name and nothing else, and states no ''constant'' method of obtaining it -- unlike glitches such as [[Z4]], [[X - x]], and [[LM4]], which can all be found with the [[Mew glitch]]. u66865rue45 probably does exist, and there probably is a way to find it, but until that method can be stated, it should not be mentioned. Also, on the source website, other glitches with long unreadable names are mentioned, meaning that this glitch is probably a random result of a link cable being pulled. (Also, person on the source website who states the glitch "u66865rue45" isn't even sure that's the right name). [[User:Latitude0116|Latitude0116]] 01:48, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

== Another glitch town ==

My friend told about this and im not sure if it is true or not...
When you play, stop in the town where you get the skill to use cut outside battles.
Then DO NOT GO TO THE SHIP TO GET THE CUT. Instead, trade a pokemon with cut from a friend's game.
Continue on playing the game until you acquire surf, and are able to use it outside battle.
Go back to the town where the ship is. access the ship pier, but DO NOT GET IN TO THE SHIP.
Instead, when you are on the pier, with the door to ship down from you, surf left from the pier.
Surf on, until you see a town.

That's it. all that I know about it. I would be happy if someone would test this out for me.

--[[User:AtomicTroop|AtomicTroop]] 14:44, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
:[[The truck]] strikes again. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 20:59, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

== IND ==
Should we add stuff about this? (watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyLUNhpiZDw&mode=related&search= ) --[[Image:Spr 3e 115.gif]][[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy512]][[Image:Spr 3e 202.gif]][[Image:Spr 3e 327.gif]] 20:50, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
Here's a pic of it:
[[Image:IND.JPG|300px]]--[[Image:Spr 3e 115.gif]][[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy512]][[Image:Spr 3e 202.gif]][[Image:Spr 3e 327.gif]] 21:02, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
:Meh. Just looks like another [http://forums.glitchcity.info/index.php/topic,2094.0.html decamark] to me. --[[User:Gawaxay|Gawaxay]] 19:10, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

== Unknown Glitch ==
http://youtube.com/watch?v=IyzWl_MEO0A
That is a glitch, and would it be okay to put on the page? [[User:X3ni92]]
:Judging by your name, are you the owner of that Smeargle? If yes... then... does it do that every time? o3o [[User:TinaTheKirlia|ティナ]][[Special:Contributions/TinaTheKirlia|☆]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]]{{ani|281}} 02:40, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
i am the owner of that smeargle, and every time i try to look at its summary it does that, if use it in battle (against a pokemon trainer) if i choose attack then press b then go to items and use any type of poke ball it will catch there pokemon and go to the pokedex, but once it asks for a nickname it freezes with the same pink screen wih a safari ball in the middle. [[User:X3ni92]]
:Weird. Probably a side effect of an Action Replay... [[User:TinaTheKirlia|ティナ]][[Special:Contributions/TinaTheKirlia|☆]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]]{{ani|281}} 02:49, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
i don't have an action replay o.o [[User:X3ni92]]
:Oh. Weird. Because you said uh, that you could catch trainer's Pokémon. Then jeez, something is seriously screwed up with that Smeargle.  [[User:TinaTheKirlia|ティナ]][[Special:Contributions/TinaTheKirlia|☆]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]]{{ani|281}} 02:53, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
i don't know whats wrong with it :/
i have a weird Unknown too, it has other moves then Hidden Power it got these moves (smeargle got the virus/glitch) after i traded them from Pokemon XD [[User:X3ni92]]
:Maybe something happened on the XD data on the Memory Card, so it screws up Pokémon data and such. Maybe you should try trading over another Pokémon from XD, and if that Pokémon is awkward too, then I think something's up with your GC→GBA link cable or your XD data. [[User:TinaTheKirlia|ティナ]][[Special:Contributions/TinaTheKirlia|☆]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]]{{ani|281}} 03:02, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
i did that with Houndour and Totodile and they work fine and evolved fine too. [[User:X3ni92]]

so would this be considered a glitch or not? [[User:X3ni92|X3ni92]] 02:55, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
:Probably just your game, methinks. Not really notable enough, or considered a seperate glitch that could work on a bunch of different carts. [[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[Special:Contributions/TinaTheKirlia|☆]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]]{{ani|281}} 02:58, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
okay. 
Thanks anyways! [[User:X3ni92|X3ni92]] 03:18, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

== Now thats a thought. ==

What happens (in Gen 2, 3, 4) when you breed a Glitch? I mean, think about it, what happens when you breed two of the same Glitches, or two different Glitches, or a Glitch and a Pokémon? |: Has anyone ever tried this before? [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 14:56, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
:My friend tried it a few times(He's an adept hacker). His results:
1- Game froze.
2- Bad Egg; never hatched.
3- Bad Egg; game crashed; saved data deleted.
4(new cart)- Game froze.
5- Game froze.
Theoretically, it's possible, but I wouldn't try it. [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 22:49, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

== Why? ==

Why are there 2 tweaking here? tc26 23:07, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

== is this beta glitch a "glitch zigzagoon" or a "no item glitch", both, or does it not exist ==

i got a beta r/s/e mailed to me by mistake. it wont save so its useless. any way i got a zizagoon. it was`nt holding anything and if i gave it will say "its alredy holding an item". if i took the "item" from it the screen displays "its not holding anything". make up your mind! what do you think? - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Whatswithalltheextraspace|Whatswithalltheextraspace]] ([[User talk:Whatswithalltheextraspace|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Whatswithalltheextraspace|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''

==Town Map Glitch==
Erm,I used a cheating device to walk through walls and go to the mystery zone,then I used a town map.When it returned to the map,it became all glitchy(Trees were white,rocks became different,etc.)Should that be mentioned on the article? [[User:ShinyEmpoleon|ShinyEmpoleon]] 05:47, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
: No, that's just a side effect of the Walk through Walls code. It's happenned to me. I bet the game was fine other than that, wasn't it? Same happenned to my friend when he used the code to go over a building seperating the routes. The city's colors were off. He went inside a building and everything was fine. [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 23:00, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

==FRLG Glitch==
One time (i forget the date, but it was sometime last week or this week) I loaded my Fire Red while i was in the Pokémon Center, and The entire thing was all glitched up. There were invisible walls everywhere, and the Center was enlongated. However, besides that, everything still worked as normal. I know it was the first time I had played it in a while, and when I left the center, everything was normal. Now that I think about it, it could have been Ruby or Sapphire. Anyone else ever experience this? Me and my fellow torchics agree on this - Sk8torchic 19:28, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
: Probably a bug that they didn't get rid of. Anyway, how can you get a Zigzaggoon in the Kanto-advanced games that early? Probably Ruby or Sapphire versions. Like I said, most likely a bug. [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 22:56, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

== Fence glitch ==

Very similar to the hill glitch and occurs in Ruby, Sapphire, and I think Emerald. In route 121- west of Lilycove- there is a man by a small collection of fences. Two steps directly below him is an item, but the fence is between him and the item. He's looking around, sometimes looking down. If you collect the item then stand where the item was, the man will see you and approach you- STANDING ON THE FENCE. This has happenned to me and I sufferred no ill effects. This only works the fisrt time you battle him, of course. Can this be added? [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 22:34, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

== Stupid question here, but... ==

How does the game know to call glitched eggs "bad eggs?" And don't give me crap that it's a fan term, because I watched my cousin get a bad egg and it was actually called that. [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 22:53, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
:Maybe the translators idea of a joke--[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]] 22:55, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Glitch

2008-12-22T22:57:36Z

Kiryu: /* FRLG Glitch */

I have heard about a glitch pokémon called Flootenkerp, that is a a mix of a mewtwo and a pikachu, and I want to know if it's true. Does anyone knows if it really exists? -- [[User:Luke|Luke]] 12 May, 2006

Anyone heard of that glitch in Emerald that allows for the cloning of Pokemon? Should that be documented here? PikamasterADV 31 July, 2006

There no cloning giltch in Emerald. --[[User:Philip1992|Philip1992]] 14:41, 30 August 2006 (UTC)Philip1992

Yes there is. Someone on Serebii.net found it, someone else tried it out & rewrote it in english.
http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=134181 [[User:Slim|Slim]] 18:55, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

== Re: Tweaking ==
I'm going to go ahead and throw the Tweaking glitch into another category, it's listed with the Glitch Pokemon for DP as of now. Feel free to move it back if you wish so. [[User:Vekter|Vekter]] 17:10, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

== 1st gen beta item makes HM03 pointless ==

I found a Hex list online with RBY item values, and I found a key item called ?????, and I used GameShark to put it on my Yellow. When used, the player can surf without a Pokémon. It was likely scrapped before the game was finished. I'm not sure if you need Koga's badge or not, since I already had it, anyway. I just thought it should be mentioned. --{{ani|250}}[[User:Fsilone|爆発
]]{{ani|249}}[[Special:Contributions/Fsilone|ばくはつ
]] 18:04, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

== Glitch Trainer Pokemon ==

I saw an article about this somewhere and I can't seem to find it anymore. So in the meantime this post shall go here. My name in the game right now is ??!! male sign twice, female sign. Now the main point is that Bulbapedia doesn't talk about the two glitch pokemon that I've encountered via the Missingno. glitch. With this name executing the Missingno. glitch, the trainers that I end up fighting are: Channeler, CoolTrainer (Male), and Blaine, the gym leader. They have six pokemon and all are the same and as follows: A glitch pokemon I dubbed L8 (true name is what seems to be a right triangle,katakana symbol, 2 glitch boxes, followed by an 8). It seems to be the rock type, because grass moves are effective, and normal attacks are not. Its two attacks are Tackle and Screech. And for some reason, it changes backround music to some weird tune. It has no cry other than the changing of music. After which is followed up with a glitch Nidorino. It knows Razor Wind, Horn Attack, Tackle, and TM48 (the glitch explosion). Then the trainer pulls out a classic Missingno. (2 water guns and sky attack). Then another glitch pokemon which I dubbed Pokemon N (True Name: PKMN symbols 3 glitch boxes, then the letter N). Its cry is the tune for the Song move. It knows Tackle and Leer. After that one, a completely normal Flareon comes up. Then another glitch Nidorino pops up. After you defeat that one the match ends and you earn money. Why do these two pokemon show up, and why does the music change is all I want to know. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:MrMcMan|MrMcMan]] ([[User talk:MrMcMan|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/MrMcMan|contribs]]).
:I've heard of this happening, stuff like wild Oaks and Cooltrainers. If you have screens to prove it, add a section, but write it encyclopedically. Not as a story that happened to you, but neutrally so that anyone who's encountered similar can add to the topic... Y'know? And sign your name next time, dude. [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 07:57, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

I would add images and such...if only I knew how to get good quality ones. I have a printer/copier/scanner hooked up to my computer, but I'm not sure how to get it so that only the gameplay image comes up, and not any of the background (such as the gameboy itself, my hands, the room, etc.). If you could e-mail me or somehow send me this information, I would be more than happy to put up images and whatnot.(E-mail: name_unknown000@hotmail.com) --MrMcMan 7:22pm(Central Time) November 15, 2006
:Email sent. Also, <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> signs your name better than having to check the date/time of your posts. Just type it after every Talk Page post you make, and you'll have no problems, like this: [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 06:59, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

I have had this happen on my BLUE VERSION. It has to do with your name. [[User:Animine|Animine]] 22:45, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Here we are: http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:Wild_Prof._Oak.JPG
The video i took the screen from: http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=lQHTKF7q98M
His website explaining how to do it: http://pokegodmaster.tripod.com/Oakinred/

([[User:GT4GTR|GT4GTR]] 09:46, 22 December 2008 (UTC))

== u66865rue45 ==
"u66865rue45" does not seem to be a glitch that can be caught with any specific method -- the website proving its existance, http://www.trsrockin.com/linkcable.html, only states its name and nothing else, and states no ''constant'' method of obtaining it -- unlike glitches such as [[Z4]], [[X - x]], and [[LM4]], which can all be found with the [[Mew glitch]]. u66865rue45 probably does exist, and there probably is a way to find it, but until that method can be stated, it should not be mentioned. Also, on the source website, other glitches with long unreadable names are mentioned, meaning that this glitch is probably a random result of a link cable being pulled. (Also, person on the source website who states the glitch "u66865rue45" isn't even sure that's the right name). [[User:Latitude0116|Latitude0116]] 01:48, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

== Another glitch town ==

My friend told about this and im not sure if it is true or not...
When you play, stop in the town where you get the skill to use cut outside battles.
Then DO NOT GO TO THE SHIP TO GET THE CUT. Instead, trade a pokemon with cut from a friend's game.
Continue on playing the game until you acquire surf, and are able to use it outside battle.
Go back to the town where the ship is. access the ship pier, but DO NOT GET IN TO THE SHIP.
Instead, when you are on the pier, with the door to ship down from you, surf left from the pier.
Surf on, until you see a town.

That's it. all that I know about it. I would be happy if someone would test this out for me.

--[[User:AtomicTroop|AtomicTroop]] 14:44, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
:[[The truck]] strikes again. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 20:59, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

== IND ==
Should we add stuff about this? (watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyLUNhpiZDw&mode=related&search= ) --[[Image:Spr 3e 115.gif]][[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy512]][[Image:Spr 3e 202.gif]][[Image:Spr 3e 327.gif]] 20:50, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
Here's a pic of it:
[[Image:IND.JPG|300px]]--[[Image:Spr 3e 115.gif]][[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy512]][[Image:Spr 3e 202.gif]][[Image:Spr 3e 327.gif]] 21:02, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
:Meh. Just looks like another [http://forums.glitchcity.info/index.php/topic,2094.0.html decamark] to me. --[[User:Gawaxay|Gawaxay]] 19:10, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

== Unknown Glitch ==
http://youtube.com/watch?v=IyzWl_MEO0A
That is a glitch, and would it be okay to put on the page? [[User:X3ni92]]
:Judging by your name, are you the owner of that Smeargle? If yes... then... does it do that every time? o3o [[User:TinaTheKirlia|ティナ]][[Special:Contributions/TinaTheKirlia|☆]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]]{{ani|281}} 02:40, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
i am the owner of that smeargle, and every time i try to look at its summary it does that, if use it in battle (against a pokemon trainer) if i choose attack then press b then go to items and use any type of poke ball it will catch there pokemon and go to the pokedex, but once it asks for a nickname it freezes with the same pink screen wih a safari ball in the middle. [[User:X3ni92]]
:Weird. Probably a side effect of an Action Replay... [[User:TinaTheKirlia|ティナ]][[Special:Contributions/TinaTheKirlia|☆]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]]{{ani|281}} 02:49, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
i don't have an action replay o.o [[User:X3ni92]]
:Oh. Weird. Because you said uh, that you could catch trainer's Pokémon. Then jeez, something is seriously screwed up with that Smeargle.  [[User:TinaTheKirlia|ティナ]][[Special:Contributions/TinaTheKirlia|☆]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]]{{ani|281}} 02:53, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
i don't know whats wrong with it :/
i have a weird Unknown too, it has other moves then Hidden Power it got these moves (smeargle got the virus/glitch) after i traded them from Pokemon XD [[User:X3ni92]]
:Maybe something happened on the XD data on the Memory Card, so it screws up Pokémon data and such. Maybe you should try trading over another Pokémon from XD, and if that Pokémon is awkward too, then I think something's up with your GC→GBA link cable or your XD data. [[User:TinaTheKirlia|ティナ]][[Special:Contributions/TinaTheKirlia|☆]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]]{{ani|281}} 03:02, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
i did that with Houndour and Totodile and they work fine and evolved fine too. [[User:X3ni92]]

so would this be considered a glitch or not? [[User:X3ni92|X3ni92]] 02:55, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
:Probably just your game, methinks. Not really notable enough, or considered a seperate glitch that could work on a bunch of different carts. [[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[Special:Contributions/TinaTheKirlia|☆]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]]{{ani|281}} 02:58, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
okay. 
Thanks anyways! [[User:X3ni92|X3ni92]] 03:18, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

== Now thats a thought. ==

What happens (in Gen 2, 3, 4) when you breed a Glitch? I mean, think about it, what happens when you breed two of the same Glitches, or two different Glitches, or a Glitch and a Pokémon? |: Has anyone ever tried this before? [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 14:56, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
:My friend tried it a few times(He's an adept hacker). His results:
1- Game froze.
2- Bad Egg; never hatched.
3- Bad Egg; game crashed; saved data deleted.
4(new cart)- Game froze.
5- Game froze.
Theoretically, it's possible, but I wouldn't try it. [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 22:49, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

== Why? ==

Why are there 2 tweaking here? tc26 23:07, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

== is this beta glitch a "glitch zigzagoon" or a "no item glitch", both, or does it not exist ==

i got a beta r/s/e mailed to me by mistake. it wont save so its useless. any way i got a zizagoon. it was`nt holding anything and if i gave it will say "its alredy holding an item". if i took the "item" from it the screen displays "its not holding anything". make up your mind! what do you think? - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Whatswithalltheextraspace|Whatswithalltheextraspace]] ([[User talk:Whatswithalltheextraspace|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Whatswithalltheextraspace|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''

==Town Map Glitch==
Erm,I used a cheating device to walk through walls and go to the mystery zone,then I used a town map.When it returned to the map,it became all glitchy(Trees were white,rocks became different,etc.)Should that be mentioned on the article? [[User:ShinyEmpoleon|ShinyEmpoleon]] 05:47, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

==FRLG Glitch==
One time (i forget the date, but it was sometime last week or this week) I loaded my Fire Red while i was in the Pokémon Center, and The entire thing was all glitched up. There were invisible walls everywhere, and the Center was enlongated. However, besides that, everything still worked as normal. I know it was the first time I had played it in a while, and when I left the center, everything was normal. Now that I think about it, it could have been Ruby or Sapphire. Anyone else ever experience this? Me and my fellow torchics agree on this - Sk8torchic 19:28, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
: Probably a bug that they didn't get rid of. Anyway, how can you get a Zigzaggoon in the Kanto-advanced games that early? Probably Ruby or Sapphire versions. Like I said, most likely a bug. [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 22:56, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

== Fence glitch ==

Very similar to the hill glitch and occurs in Ruby, Sapphire, and I think Emerald. In route 121- west of Lilycove- there is a man by a small collection of fences. Two steps directly below him is an item, but the fence is between him and the item. He's looking around, sometimes looking down. If you collect the item then stand where the item was, the man will see you and approach you- STANDING ON THE FENCE. This has happenned to me and I sufferred no ill effects. This only works the fisrt time you battle him, of course. Can this be added? [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 22:34, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

== Stupid question here, but... ==

How does the game know to call glitched eggs "bad eggs?" And don't give me crap that it's a fan term, because I watched my cousin get a bad egg and it was actually called that. [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 22:53, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
:Maybe the translators idea of a joke--[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]] 22:55, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Glitch

2008-12-22T22:56:36Z

Kiryu: /* FRLG Glitch */

I have heard about a glitch pokémon called Flootenkerp, that is a a mix of a mewtwo and a pikachu, and I want to know if it's true. Does anyone knows if it really exists? -- [[User:Luke|Luke]] 12 May, 2006

Anyone heard of that glitch in Emerald that allows for the cloning of Pokemon? Should that be documented here? PikamasterADV 31 July, 2006

There no cloning giltch in Emerald. --[[User:Philip1992|Philip1992]] 14:41, 30 August 2006 (UTC)Philip1992

Yes there is. Someone on Serebii.net found it, someone else tried it out & rewrote it in english.
http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=134181 [[User:Slim|Slim]] 18:55, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

== Re: Tweaking ==
I'm going to go ahead and throw the Tweaking glitch into another category, it's listed with the Glitch Pokemon for DP as of now. Feel free to move it back if you wish so. [[User:Vekter|Vekter]] 17:10, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

== 1st gen beta item makes HM03 pointless ==

I found a Hex list online with RBY item values, and I found a key item called ?????, and I used GameShark to put it on my Yellow. When used, the player can surf without a Pokémon. It was likely scrapped before the game was finished. I'm not sure if you need Koga's badge or not, since I already had it, anyway. I just thought it should be mentioned. --{{ani|250}}[[User:Fsilone|爆発
]]{{ani|249}}[[Special:Contributions/Fsilone|ばくはつ
]] 18:04, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

== Glitch Trainer Pokemon ==

I saw an article about this somewhere and I can't seem to find it anymore. So in the meantime this post shall go here. My name in the game right now is ??!! male sign twice, female sign. Now the main point is that Bulbapedia doesn't talk about the two glitch pokemon that I've encountered via the Missingno. glitch. With this name executing the Missingno. glitch, the trainers that I end up fighting are: Channeler, CoolTrainer (Male), and Blaine, the gym leader. They have six pokemon and all are the same and as follows: A glitch pokemon I dubbed L8 (true name is what seems to be a right triangle,katakana symbol, 2 glitch boxes, followed by an 8). It seems to be the rock type, because grass moves are effective, and normal attacks are not. Its two attacks are Tackle and Screech. And for some reason, it changes backround music to some weird tune. It has no cry other than the changing of music. After which is followed up with a glitch Nidorino. It knows Razor Wind, Horn Attack, Tackle, and TM48 (the glitch explosion). Then the trainer pulls out a classic Missingno. (2 water guns and sky attack). Then another glitch pokemon which I dubbed Pokemon N (True Name: PKMN symbols 3 glitch boxes, then the letter N). Its cry is the tune for the Song move. It knows Tackle and Leer. After that one, a completely normal Flareon comes up. Then another glitch Nidorino pops up. After you defeat that one the match ends and you earn money. Why do these two pokemon show up, and why does the music change is all I want to know. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:MrMcMan|MrMcMan]] ([[User talk:MrMcMan|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/MrMcMan|contribs]]).
:I've heard of this happening, stuff like wild Oaks and Cooltrainers. If you have screens to prove it, add a section, but write it encyclopedically. Not as a story that happened to you, but neutrally so that anyone who's encountered similar can add to the topic... Y'know? And sign your name next time, dude. [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 07:57, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

I would add images and such...if only I knew how to get good quality ones. I have a printer/copier/scanner hooked up to my computer, but I'm not sure how to get it so that only the gameplay image comes up, and not any of the background (such as the gameboy itself, my hands, the room, etc.). If you could e-mail me or somehow send me this information, I would be more than happy to put up images and whatnot.(E-mail: name_unknown000@hotmail.com) --MrMcMan 7:22pm(Central Time) November 15, 2006
:Email sent. Also, <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> signs your name better than having to check the date/time of your posts. Just type it after every Talk Page post you make, and you'll have no problems, like this: [[User:TTEchidna|Tom Temprotran]] 06:59, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

I have had this happen on my BLUE VERSION. It has to do with your name. [[User:Animine|Animine]] 22:45, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Here we are: http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Image:Wild_Prof._Oak.JPG
The video i took the screen from: http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=lQHTKF7q98M
His website explaining how to do it: http://pokegodmaster.tripod.com/Oakinred/

([[User:GT4GTR|GT4GTR]] 09:46, 22 December 2008 (UTC))

== u66865rue45 ==
"u66865rue45" does not seem to be a glitch that can be caught with any specific method -- the website proving its existance, http://www.trsrockin.com/linkcable.html, only states its name and nothing else, and states no ''constant'' method of obtaining it -- unlike glitches such as [[Z4]], [[X - x]], and [[LM4]], which can all be found with the [[Mew glitch]]. u66865rue45 probably does exist, and there probably is a way to find it, but until that method can be stated, it should not be mentioned. Also, on the source website, other glitches with long unreadable names are mentioned, meaning that this glitch is probably a random result of a link cable being pulled. (Also, person on the source website who states the glitch "u66865rue45" isn't even sure that's the right name). [[User:Latitude0116|Latitude0116]] 01:48, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

== Another glitch town ==

My friend told about this and im not sure if it is true or not...
When you play, stop in the town where you get the skill to use cut outside battles.
Then DO NOT GO TO THE SHIP TO GET THE CUT. Instead, trade a pokemon with cut from a friend's game.
Continue on playing the game until you acquire surf, and are able to use it outside battle.
Go back to the town where the ship is. access the ship pier, but DO NOT GET IN TO THE SHIP.
Instead, when you are on the pier, with the door to ship down from you, surf left from the pier.
Surf on, until you see a town.

That's it. all that I know about it. I would be happy if someone would test this out for me.

--[[User:AtomicTroop|AtomicTroop]] 14:44, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
:[[The truck]] strikes again. '''[[User:TTEchidna|T]][[User talk:TTEchidna|T]][[wp:Echidna|Echidna]]''' 20:59, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

== IND ==
Should we add stuff about this? (watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyLUNhpiZDw&mode=related&search= ) --[[Image:Spr 3e 115.gif]][[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy512]][[Image:Spr 3e 202.gif]][[Image:Spr 3e 327.gif]] 20:50, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
Here's a pic of it:
[[Image:IND.JPG|300px]]--[[Image:Spr 3e 115.gif]][[User:Theryguy512|Theryguy512]][[Image:Spr 3e 202.gif]][[Image:Spr 3e 327.gif]] 21:02, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
:Meh. Just looks like another [http://forums.glitchcity.info/index.php/topic,2094.0.html decamark] to me. --[[User:Gawaxay|Gawaxay]] 19:10, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

== Unknown Glitch ==
http://youtube.com/watch?v=IyzWl_MEO0A
That is a glitch, and would it be okay to put on the page? [[User:X3ni92]]
:Judging by your name, are you the owner of that Smeargle? If yes... then... does it do that every time? o3o [[User:TinaTheKirlia|ティナ]][[Special:Contributions/TinaTheKirlia|☆]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]]{{ani|281}} 02:40, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
i am the owner of that smeargle, and every time i try to look at its summary it does that, if use it in battle (against a pokemon trainer) if i choose attack then press b then go to items and use any type of poke ball it will catch there pokemon and go to the pokedex, but once it asks for a nickname it freezes with the same pink screen wih a safari ball in the middle. [[User:X3ni92]]
:Weird. Probably a side effect of an Action Replay... [[User:TinaTheKirlia|ティナ]][[Special:Contributions/TinaTheKirlia|☆]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]]{{ani|281}} 02:49, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
i don't have an action replay o.o [[User:X3ni92]]
:Oh. Weird. Because you said uh, that you could catch trainer's Pokémon. Then jeez, something is seriously screwed up with that Smeargle.  [[User:TinaTheKirlia|ティナ]][[Special:Contributions/TinaTheKirlia|☆]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]]{{ani|281}} 02:53, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
i don't know whats wrong with it :/
i have a weird Unknown too, it has other moves then Hidden Power it got these moves (smeargle got the virus/glitch) after i traded them from Pokemon XD [[User:X3ni92]]
:Maybe something happened on the XD data on the Memory Card, so it screws up Pokémon data and such. Maybe you should try trading over another Pokémon from XD, and if that Pokémon is awkward too, then I think something's up with your GC→GBA link cable or your XD data. [[User:TinaTheKirlia|ティナ]][[Special:Contributions/TinaTheKirlia|☆]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]]{{ani|281}} 03:02, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
i did that with Houndour and Totodile and they work fine and evolved fine too. [[User:X3ni92]]

so would this be considered a glitch or not? [[User:X3ni92|X3ni92]] 02:55, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
:Probably just your game, methinks. Not really notable enough, or considered a seperate glitch that could work on a bunch of different carts. [[User:TinaTheKirlia|Tina]][[Special:Contributions/TinaTheKirlia|☆]][[User talk:TinaTheKirlia|♫]]{{ani|281}} 02:58, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
okay. 
Thanks anyways! [[User:X3ni92|X3ni92]] 03:18, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

== Now thats a thought. ==

What happens (in Gen 2, 3, 4) when you breed a Glitch? I mean, think about it, what happens when you breed two of the same Glitches, or two different Glitches, or a Glitch and a Pokémon? |: Has anyone ever tried this before? [[User:Takoto|Takoto タコト]]| サソデイ = 愛 14:56, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
:My friend tried it a few times(He's an adept hacker). His results:
1- Game froze.
2- Bad Egg; never hatched.
3- Bad Egg; game crashed; saved data deleted.
4(new cart)- Game froze.
5- Game froze.
Theoretically, it's possible, but I wouldn't try it. [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 22:49, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

== Why? ==

Why are there 2 tweaking here? tc26 23:07, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

== is this beta glitch a "glitch zigzagoon" or a "no item glitch", both, or does it not exist ==

i got a beta r/s/e mailed to me by mistake. it wont save so its useless. any way i got a zizagoon. it was`nt holding anything and if i gave it will say "its alredy holding an item". if i took the "item" from it the screen displays "its not holding anything". make up your mind! what do you think? - ''unsigned comment from [[User:Whatswithalltheextraspace|Whatswithalltheextraspace]] ([[User talk:Whatswithalltheextraspace|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Whatswithalltheextraspace|contribs]]){{ #if: | {{{2}}} |}}''

==Town Map Glitch==
Erm,I used a cheating device to walk through walls and go to the mystery zone,then I used a town map.When it returned to the map,it became all glitchy(Trees were white,rocks became different,etc.)Should that be mentioned on the article? [[User:ShinyEmpoleon|ShinyEmpoleon]] 05:47, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

==FRLG Glitch==
One time (i forget the date, but it was sometime last week or this week) I loaded my Fire Red while i was in the Pokémon Center, and The entire thing was all glitched up. There were invisible walls everywhere, and the Center was enlongated. However, besides that, everything still worked as normal. I know it was the first time I had played it in a while, and when I left the center, everything was normal. Now that I think about it, it could have been Ruby or Sapphire. Anyone else ever experience this? Me and my fellow torchics agree on this - Sk8torchic 19:28, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
: I think that's why it's called a beta game. Probabl a bug that they didn't get rid of. Anyway, how can you get a Zigzaggoon in the Kanto-advanced games that early? Probably Ruby or Sapphire versions. Like I said, most likely a bug. [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 22:56, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

== Fence glitch ==

Very similar to the hill glitch and occurs in Ruby, Sapphire, and I think Emerald. In route 121- west of Lilycove- there is a man by a small collection of fences. Two steps directly below him is an item, but the fence is between him and the item. He's looking around, sometimes looking down. If you collect the item then stand where the item was, the man will see you and approach you- STANDING ON THE FENCE. This has happenned to me and I sufferred no ill effects. This only works the fisrt time you battle him, of course. Can this be added? [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 22:34, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

== Stupid question here, but... ==

How does the game know to call glitched eggs "bad eggs?" And don't give me crap that it's a fan term, because I watched my cousin get a bad egg and it was actually called that. [[User:Kiryu|Kiryu]] 22:53, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
:Maybe the translators idea of a joke--[[User:DCM|DCM]][[User talk:DCM|((曲奇饼妖怪]][[Special:Contributions/DCM|Spy on My Edits))]] 22:55, 22 December 2008 (UTC)